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Talk:Propaganda

I enjoyed reading the sections given here about propaganda and its history. One topic is not covered: Is all persuasion in some degree propaganda? Speech is persuasion in nature, and some argue that all speech is political. It seems easy to look at political speech and see much of it, for example in the appeal to emotions, as propaganda. Certainly nearly all advertising and the spin masters of PR firms would also qualify.

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 * It is the absolute right of the state to supervise the formation of public opinion.
 * attributed to Joseph Goebbels

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 * The Vietnam War is a classic example of America's propaganda system. In the mainstream media--the New York Times, CBS, and so on-- there was a lively debate about the war. It was between people called "doves" and people called "hawks." The hawks said, "If we keep at it we can win." The doves said, "Even if we keep at it, it would probably be too costly for use, and besides, maybe we're killing too many people." Both sides agreed on one thing. We had a right to carry out aggression against South Vietnam. Doves and hawks alike refused to admit that aggression was taking place. They both called our military presence in Southeast Asia the defense of South Vietnam, substituting "defense" for "aggression" in the standard Orwellian manner. ( Noam Chomsky in Propaganda, American-style, ZPub (1987))

 * The media want to maintain their intimate relation to state power. They want to get leaks, they want to get invited to the press conferences. They want to rub shoulders with the Secretary of State, all that kind of business. To do that, you've got to play the game, and playing the game means telling their lies, serving as their disinformation apparatus.(Noam Chomsky, Chronicles of Dissent; Non-Conspiracy Analysis of Propaganda System(24 October 1986))

 * The real purpose of state secrecy is to enable governments to establish their own self-interested and often mendacious version of the truth by the careful selection of “facts” to be passed on to the public. They feel enraged by any revelation of what they really know, or by any alternative source of information. Such threats to their control of the news agenda must be suppressed where possible and, where not, those responsible must be pursued and punished.Revealing important information about the Yemen war – in which at least 70,000 people have been killed – is the reason why the US government is persecuting both Assange and Zikry.(Patrick Cockburn, Why the US is Persecuting Assange? CounterPunch (4 June 2019))

I removed these three quotes as off-topic. Instead of being "about" propaganda, they are one-sided negative assertions about the sock team's usual punching bags: US government, news media, state secrecy, and foes of Julian Assange. By the way, I am old enough to have been an active dove on the Vietnam War and Chomsky's assertion that doves agreed the US had a right to kill people in South Vietnam is so outrageously false as to cast doubt on the truth-value of his many other assertions, poured into Wikiquote by the gallon by socks.

In this same edit/diff, I removed a long passage of editorializing and finger-pointing by Chomsky from a 1991 pamphlet available online:

((Section header reads Media Control: The Spectacular Achievements of Propaganda, by Noam Chomsky (1991) (Full text, multiple formats)" ))

 * The issue is whether we want to live in a free society or whether we want to live under what amounts to a form of self-imposed totalitarianism... admiring with awe the leader who saved them from destruction, while the educated masses goose-step on command and repeat the slogans they're supposed to repeat and the society deteriorates at home. We end up serving as a mercenary enforcer state, hoping that others are going to pay us to smash up the world.

 * The role of the media in contemporary politics forces us to ask what kind of a world and what kind of a society we want to live in, and in particular in what sense of democracy do we want this to be a democratic society? Let me begin by counter-posing two different conceptions of democracy. One conception of democracy has it that a democratic society is one in which the public has the means to participate in some meaningful way in the management of their own affairs and the means of information are open and free. If you  look up democracy in the dictionary you'll get a definition something like that.

 * An alternative conception of democracy is that the public must be barred from managing of their own affairs and the means of information must be kept narrowly and rigidly controlled. That may sound like an odd conception of democracy, but it's important to understand that it is the prevailing conception.

 * The picture of the world that's presented to the public has only the remotest relation to reality. The truth of the matter is buried under  edifice after edifice of lies upon lies.

 * Let's begin with the first modern (U.S.) government propaganda operation. That was under the  Woodrow Wilson Administration. Woodrow  Wilson was elected President in 1916 on the platform "Peace Without Victory." That was right in the middle of the World War I. The population was extremely pacifistic and saw no reason to become involved in a European war. The Wilson administration was actually committed to war and had to do something about it. They established a government propaganda commission, called the Creel Commission which succeeded, within six months, in turning a pacifist population into a hysterical, warmongering population which wanted to destroy everything German, tear the Germans limb from limb, go to war and save the world.

 * That was a major achievement, and it led to a further achievement. Right at that time and after the war the same techniques were used to whip up a hysterical Red Scare, as it was called, which succeeded pretty much in destroying unions and eliminating such dangerous problems as freedom of the press and freedom of political  thought. There was very strong support from  the media, from the business establishment,  which in fact organized, pushed much of this  work, and it was, in general, a great success.

 * The progressive intellectuals, people of the John Dewey circle ... took great pride, as you can see from their own writings at the time, in having shown that what they called the "more intelligent members of the community,"  namely, themselves, were able to drive a reluctant population into a war by terrifying them and eliciting jingoist fanaticism.

 * The means that were used were extensive. For example, there was a good deal of fabrication of atrocities by the Huns, Belgian babies with their arms torn off, all sorts of awful things that you still read in history books. Much of it was invented by the British propaganda ministry, whose own commitment at the time, as they put it in their secret deliberations, was "to direct the thought of most of the world." But more crucially they wanted to control the thought of the more intelligent members of the  community in the United States, who would  then disseminate the propaganda that they  were concocting and convert the pacifistic country to wartime hysteria. That worked. It  worked very well.

 * And it taught a lesson: State propaganda, when supported by the educated classes and when no deviation is permitted from it, can have a big effect. It was a lesson learned by Hitler and many others, and it has been pursued to this day.

The very last sentence amounts to a quotable quote by Chomsky, so I am putting that one sentence back into the article, although without the POV-pushing bolding. The article still contains 5 quotes from Chomsky, each with a link to the Wikiquote page devoted entirely to Noam Chomsky, so I hope I will not be accused of "censoring" the article when I am merely trying to trim its unbalance. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:26, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

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On April 25, with this edit, I removed the following quotes. The first is unsourced except to YouTube in addition to being non-notable. The second is not about propaganda. The third is too long, although I could have trimmed it instead of removing it I did not. (There is still a quote from Goebbels in the G section as well as one from Goering, so I do not think the loss is very stark.) The three quotes from Glenn Greenwald are not "about" propaganda, they are "about" a 3/10/2019 NYT correction of a claim by Mike Pence about an event on 2/23/2019 used to say how evil the US and mainstream media always are. Below are the quotes I removed. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:43, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

 * Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? ' Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

 * One should not as a rule reveal one's secrets, since one does not know if and when one may need them again. The essential English leadership secret does not depend on particular intelligence. Rather, it depends on a remarkably stupid thick-headedness. the English follow the principle that when one lies, it should be a big lie, and one should stick to it. They keep up their lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous.
 * Joseph Goebbels, "Aus Churchills Lügenfabrik" ("Churchill's Lie Factory"), 12 January 1941, Die Zeit ohne Beispiel (Munich: Zentralverlag der NSDAP., 1941), pp. 364-369

 * To attract people, to win over people to that which I have realised as being true, that is called propaganda. In the beginning there is the understanding, this understanding uses propaganda as a tool to find those men, that shall turn understanding into politics. Success is the important thing. Propaganda is not a matter for average minds, but rather a matter for practitioners. It is not supposed to be lovely or theoretically correct. I do not care if I give wonderful, aesthetically elegant speeches, or speak so that women cry. The point of a political speech is to persuade people what we think is right. I speak differently in the provinces than I do in Berlin, and when I speak in Bayreuth, I say different things from what I say in the Pharus Hall. That is a matter of practice, not of theory. We do not want to be a movement of a few straw brains, but rather a movement that can conquer the broad masses. Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths.
 * Joseph Goebbels, Speech on 9 January 1928 to an audience of party members at the "Hochschule für Politik", a series of training talks for Nazi party members in Berlin

 * Every major U.S. war of the last several decades has begun the same way: the U.S. government fabricates an inflammatory, emotionally provocative lie which large U.S. media outlets uncritically treat as truth while refusing at air questioning or dissent, thus inflaming primal anger against the country the U.S. wants to attack...This was exactly the tactic used on February 23, when the narrative shifted radically in favor of those U.S. officials who want regime change operations in Venezuela... they vehemently stated that the trucks were set on fire, on purpose, by President Nicolas Maduro’s forces.
 * Glenn Greenwald: NYT’s Exposé on the Lies About Burning Aid Trucks in Venezuela Shows How U.S. Government and Media Spread Pro-War Propaganda, The Intercept,   (10 March 2019)

 * That lie – supported by incredibly powerful video images – changed everything. Ever since, that Maduro burned trucks filled with humanitarian aid was repeated over and over as proven fact on U.S. news outlets. Immediately after it was claimed, politicians...U.S. news stars and think tank luminaries...took a leading role in beating the war drums.
 * Glenn Greenwald: NYT’s Exposé on the Lies About Burning Aid Trucks in Venezuela Shows How U.S. Government and Media Spread Pro-War Propaganda, The Intercept,   (10 March 2019)

 * The U.S. media, by design, does not permit dissent on U.S. foreign policy, particularly when it comes to false claims about U.S. adversaries. That’s why skeptics of U.S. regime change in Venezuela, or dissenters on the prevailing orthodoxies about Russia, have largely been disappeared from mainstream media outlets, just as they were in 2002 and 2003. That’s not because U.S. media stars are ordered to do this. They don’t need to be ordered. They know propaganda is their job...
 * Glenn Greenwald: NYT’s Exposé on the Lies About Burning Aid Trucks in Venezuela Shows How U.S. Government and Media Spread Pro-War Propaganda, The Intercept,   (10 March 2019)

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On April 25, with this edit, I removed five quotes by Edward S. Herman. The first two are not "about" propaganda; they are about Russia v Ukraine. The other three show Herman promoting himself and his work with Chomsky in tedious mundane language. Not notable, not quotable. But here they are, below. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

 * It is enlightening to see how pugnacious the U.S. establishment...has been in dealing with the Ukraine crisis. The crisis arguably began when the Yanukovich government rejected an EU bailout program in favor of one offered by Russia. The mainstream media (MSM) have virtually suppressed the fact that the EU proposal was not only less generous than the one offered by Russia, but that, whereas the Russian plan did not preclude further Ukrainian deals with the EU, the EU plan would have required a cut-off of further Russian arrangements. And whereas the Russian deal had no military clauses, that of the EU required that Ukraine affiliate with NATO. Insofar as the MSM dealt with this set of offers, they not only suppressed the exclusionary and militarized character of the EU offer, they tended to view the Russian deal as an improper use of economic leverage, “bludgeoning,” but the EU proposal was “constructive and reasonable” (Ed., NYT, November 20, 2014). Double standards seem to be fully internalized within the U.S. establishment. The protests that ensued in Ukraine were surely based in part on real grievances against a corrupt government, but they were also pushed along by right-wing groups and by U.S. and allied encouragement and support that increasingly had an anti-Russian and pro-accelerated regime change flavor.
 * Edward S. Herman in War is Our Business and Business Looks Good, Z Magazine (28 June 2014)

 * The sniper killings of police and protesters in Maidan on February 21, 2014 brought the crisis to a new head. This violence overlapped with, and eventually terminated, a negotiated settlement of the struggle brokered by EU members that would have ended the violence, created an interim government, and required elections by December. The accelerated violence ended this transitional plan, which was replaced by a coup takeover along with the forced flight of Victor Yanukovich. There is credible evidence that the sniper shootings of both protesters and police were carried out by a segment of the protesters in a false-flag operation that worked exceedingly well, “government” violence serving as one ground for the ouster of Yanukovich. Most telling was the intercepted phone message between Estonia’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, Urmas Paet, and EU Foreign Policy chief Catherine Upton, in which Paet regretfully reported compelling evidence that the shots killing both police and protesters came from a segment of the protesters. This account was almost entirely suppressed in the MSM... There is also every reason to believe that the coup and establishment of a right-wing and anti-Russian government were encouraged and actively supported by U.S. officials.
 * Edward S. Herman in War is Our Business and Business Looks Good, Z Magazine (28 June 2014)

 * What is the propaganda model and how does it work? The crucial structural factors derive from the fact that the dominant media are firmly imbedded in the market system. They are profit-seeking businesses, owned by very wealthy people (or other companies); they are funded largely by advertisers who are also profit-seeking entities, and who want their ads to appear in a supportive selling environment. The media are also dependent on government and major business firms as information sources, and both efficiency and political considerations, and frequently overlapping interests, cause a certain degree of solidarity to prevail among the government, major media, and other corporate businesses. Government and large non-media business firms are also best positioned (and sufficiently wealthy) to be able to pressure the media with threats of withdrawal of advertising or TV licenses, libel suits, and other direct and indirect modes of attack. The media are also constrained by the dominant ideology, which heavily featured anticommunism before and during the Cold War era, and was mobilized often to prevent the media from criticizing attacks on small states labelled communist.
 * Edward S. Herman in The Propaganda Model Revisited, Monthly Review   (1 January 2018)

 * The model does suggest that the mainstream media, as elite institutions, commonly frame news and allow debate only within the parameters of elite interests; and that where the elite is really concerned and unified, and/or where ordinary citizens are not aware of their own stake in an issue or are immobilized by effective propaganda, the media will serve elite interests uncompromisingly... Many liberals and a number of academic media analysts of the left did not like the propaganda model. Some of them found repugnant a wholesale condemnation of a system in which they played a respected role; for them it is a basically sound system, its inequalities of access regrettable but tolerable, its pluralism and competition effectively responding to consumer demands.
 * Edward S. Herman in The Propaganda Model Revisited, Monthly Review   (1 January 2018)

 * In retrospect ... it is quite possible that nothing we could have done would have prevented our being labelled conspiracy theorists, rigid determinists, and deniers of the possibility that people can resist (even as we called for resistance). The propaganda model still seems a very workable framework for analyzing and understanding the mainstream media—perhaps even more so than in 1988. As noted earlier in reference to Central America, it often surpasses expectations of media subservience to government propaganda. And we are still waiting for our critics to provide a better model.
 * Edward S. Herman in The Propaganda Model Revisited, Monthly Review   (1 January 2018)

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On April 25 with this edit I removed images as well as more text. For the text choices: off-topic, non-notable, not-quotable were the most usual reasons. It looks as if somebody lifted into this article a lot of material related to Illusion rather than to propaganda per se. The article stil has many images, I removed a few for more reader-friendliness, including an utterly off-topic image from Abu Ghraib (not shown here either), one of the socks' pet themes together as is the off-topic open-mouthed screaming face. HouseOfChange (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

I removed part (shown in italics) but not all of the following quote, and removed some bolding:
 * Propaganda tries to surround man by all possible routes in the realm of feelings as well as ideas, by playing on his will or on his needs, through his conscious and his unconscious, assailing him in both his private and his public life. It furnishes him with a complete system for explaining the world, and provides immediate incentives to action. We are here in the presence of an organized myth that tries to take hold of the entire person. Through the myth it creates, propaganda imposes a complete range of intuitive knowledge, susceptible of only one interpretation, unique and one-sided, and precluding any divergence. This myth becomes so powerful that it invades every arena of consciousness, leaving no faculty or motivation intact. It stimulates in the individual a feeling of exclusiveness, and produces a biased attitude.
 * Jacques Ellul, in Propaganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes (1962), as translated by Konrad Kellen & Jean Lerner (1965)

 * But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists … By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
 * All this was inspired by the principle - which is quite true in itself - that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously.
 * Adolf Hitler, in Mein Kampf (1925)

 * No matter what an amount of talent employed in the organization of propaganda, it will have no result if due account is not taken of these fundamental principles. Propaganda must be limited to a few simple themes and these must be represented again and again. Here, as in innumerable other cases, perseverance is the first and most important condition of success.

 * According to Chomsky, the Doomsday Clock setting at 100 seconds to midnight is based upon: (1) global warming (2) nuclear war and (3) disinformation, or the collapse of any kind of rational discourse. As such, number three makes it impossible to deal with the first two major problems. Along those lines, within the Republican Party there’s virtually a disappearance of any pretense of rational discourse. Twenty-five (25%) percent of Republicans believe the government is run by an elite satanic group of pedophiles. Seventy percent (70%) of Republicans believe that the election was stolen. Only fifteen percent (15%) of Republicans believe that global warming is a serious problem. Therein lies an insurmountable problem to solving the main issues that continually tick the clock ever closer to a disaster scenario that will likely be unprecedented in the annals of warfare and environmental degradation.  As a result, Chomsky says: “We’re living in a world of total illusion and fantasy.” Accordingly, “Unless this is dealt with soon, it’ll be impossible to deal with the two major issues within the time span that we have available, which is not very long.”
 * A World of Total Illusion and Fantasy: Noam Chomsky on the Future of the Planet, Robert Hunziker, CounterPunch (12 July 2021)

 * Amid a media crackdown in Russia, demonstrators are taking to the streets to protest the country’s war on Ukraine. Encrypted tweets and surreptitiously shot videos posted to Reddit and Telegram show Russian police out in force to silence dissent, even approaching passersby and demanding to check their phones. In Moscow, a woman was reportedly arrested on her 80th birthday. One Telegram clip captures a pensioner in Kaliningrad shouting at an officer: “I am a survivor of the Leningrad Blockade! My father died at the front [in World War II]!” The officer replies “And now you are supporting the Ukrainian fascists?” only to be drowned out by a crowd, crying “They are not fascists, they are our friends!” Anticipating that popular unrest could continue to grow as economic sanctions deepen, the Russian government is clamping down on free speech, independent media, and online opportunities for unsupervised, big-group information exchange. Media establishments inside Russia have been shut down for refusing to report only government-approved, highly deceptive versions of events in Ukraine. Western outlets such as the BBC have left the country. Anyone who passes on information that contradicts official sources now faces up to 15 years in jail; the new law prompted the Chinese-owned platform TikTok to suspend operations. Kremlin authorities have blocked access to Facebook and Twitter. Russians are scrambling to learn more about what is happening and what they can do. Should they obey their country’s laws, or defy them in acts of conscientious objection? Should families remain in their homeland or try to flee? Their decisions will be a test of the power of propaganda in a social media age, and of the ability of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s regime to shape values and beliefs strong enough to withstand crisis. Many theorists claim that hard times can lead to citizen protest, and sometimes even to political change. But the Kremlin is banking on its ability to control the message and, instead, fuel a sense of outraged unity.
 * Cynthia Hooper, in "Russia’s information war: painful truths vs. comfortable lies" in The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (9 March 2022)

 * It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe the US is pouring weapons into a foreign nation to defend freedom and democracy. It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe serious military conflicts consist of Good Guys fighting Bad Guys like a children’s cartoon show. It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe a war is being fought between an evil monster who is the same as Hitler and a virtuous sexy comedian of surpassing bravery and wisdom. It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe the same western media institutions who’ve lied about every war are now telling the truth about this one. It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe we’re seeing an unprecedented wave of censorship because the European Union, Silicon Valley megacorporations, and TV service providers want to protect everyone from “disinformation”... It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and be fine with only knowing one side of the story. It’s not okay to be a grown adult in 2022 and believe anything which doesn’t align with what the TV tells you about this war is “Russian propaganda.
 * Caitlin Johnstone, It’s Not Okay For Grown Adults To Think This Way About Ukraine Medium, soundcloud/audio, March 18, 2022

 * The “Conqueror from Berlin,” as he has named himself, has completely conquered Germany. And not only that. Unfortunately, many, all too many Germans living abroad, also have fallen for the cunning propaganda.
 * Friedrich Kellner, My Opposition (14 October 1939)

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 * It is hard for us to see beyond the all-enveloping narrative that surrounds us of Western good intentions with occasional mistakes in implementation, versus our horror comic negative mental images of Russia’s President Putin. The latter images are far from the truth but very compelling. The people who create and sustain our mental furniture are top professionals at what they do. They  condition  our thinking and emotions, through powerful images and memes as well as words.
 * Ukraine shrinks again, By Tony Kevin, John Menadue's Public Policy Journal, Feb 23, 2022
 * Highly intelligent people hate to admit they have fallen for such propaganda, and often get angry when it is suggested to them that they have.'''
 * Ukraine shrinks again, By Tony Kevin, John Menadue's Public Policy Journal, Feb 23, 2022

 * Unfortunately [contrary to what we've been led to believe], it’s US “diplomacy” which brought the US, Russia, Ukraine, and NATO to the current standoff. As the Warsaw Pact disintegrated and the Soviet Union collapsed, US encouragement for those events included pledges that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization wouldn’t take advantage of the situation to expand eastward. Since then, NATO has inexorably pushed in that direction, nearly doubling the number of member states. Thanks, US “diplomacy.”Things began coming to a head with the US-sponsored coup in Ukraine that replaced its “Russia-friendly” regime with a “US/Europe-friendly” regime in 2014, courtesy of Barack Obama. Thanks, US “diplomacy.” Then in 2019, the US withdrew from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, which forbade the US to place missiles within surprise strike distance of Russia, and Russia to place similar missiles within surprise strike distance of NATO. The US followed up by placing exactly such missiles in Poland, courtesy of Donald Trump. Some “diplomacy.”... Then the US went into overdrive (courtesy of Trump and Biden) against the opening of a pipeline (Nord Stream 2) which would have supplied Russian natural gas to Germany.  The pipeline would have been a force for peace insofar as Russia likes to sell natural gas (at a fraction of prices the US can offer), and Germans like to not freeze to death.
 * Ukraine: US “Diplomacy” is the Problem. Can it Become the Solution? Thomas Knapp, CounterPunch, February 23, 2022
 * Talk of imminent threat to our national security through the application of external force is pure nonsense. Our threat is from the insidious forces working from within which have already so drastically altered the character of our free institutions — those institutions we proudly called the American way of life.
 * Douglas MacArthur, Speech to the Michigan legislature, in Lansing, Michigan (15 May 1952), published in General MacArthur Speeches and Reports 1908-1964 (2000) by Edward T. Imparato, p. 206

As we watch the media today, we are spoon fed more and more propaganda and fear of the unknown, we're led to believe] that we should be afraid of the unknown and have full faith that our government is keeping us safe from the unknown.But '''by looking at media today, those of us who are old enough will be reminded of the era of Cold War news articles, hysteria of how the Russians would invade and how we should duck and cover under tables in our kitchens for the ensuing nuclear war. Under this mass hysteria all Western governments were convinced that we should join Western allies to fight the unknown evil that lies to the east. Later through my travels in Russia during the height of the Cold War with a peace delegation, we were shocked by the poverty of the country, and questioned how we ever were led to believe that Russia was a force to be afraid of. We talked to the Russian students who were dismayed by their absolute poverty and showed anger against [[NATO for leading their country into an arms race that they could not win. Many years later, when speaking to young Americans in the US, I was in disbelief about the fear the students had of Russia and their talk of invasion. This is a good example of how the unknown can cause a deep rooted paranoia when manipulated by the right powers.
 * It is part of the general pattern of misguided policy that our country is now geared to an arms economy which was bred in an artificially induced psychosis of war hysteria and nurtured upon an incessant propaganda of fear. While such an economy may produce a sense of seeming prosperity for the moment, it rests on an illusionary foundation of complete unreliability and renders among our political leaders almost a greater fear of peace than is their fear of war.
 * Douglas MacArthur, Speech to the Michigan legislature, in Lansing, Michigan (15 May 1952), published in General MacArthur Speeches and Reports 1908-1964 (2000) by Edward T. Imparato, p. 206, much of this was used in speeches of 1951, as quoted in The Twenty-year Revolution from Roosevelt to Eisenhower (1954) by Chesly Manly, p. 3, and Total Insecurity : The Myth Of American Omnipotence (2004) by Carol Brightman, p. 182
 * Propaganda is making puppets out of us. We are moved by hidden strings which the propagandist manipulates.
 * Everett Dean Martin, Are We Victims of Propaganda, Our Invisible Masters: A Debate with Edward Bernays (1929)
 * It must be borne in mind that everything the propagandist does or says is for effect — most commonly the effect on fools. The public wants not truth but a show?
 * Everett Dean Martin, Are We Victims of Propaganda, Our Invisible Masters: A Debate with Edward Bernays (1929)
 * Frankly, Wonder Woman is psychological propaganda for the new type of woman who, I believe, should rule the world.
 * William Moulton Marston The Secret History of Wonder Woman, The Secret History of Wonder Woman (2014) by Jill Lepore
 * Mairead Maguire, Demonization of Russia in a New Cold War Era, Inventing a foe to sell military ambitions is still the most dangerous of games, Common Dreams  (14 September 2018)

 * Soon we shall begin through the press to propose competitions in art, in sport of all kinds: these interests will finally distract their minds from questions in which we should find ourselves compelled to oppose them. Growing more and more disaccustomed to reflect and form any opinions of their own, people will begin to talk in the same tone as we, because we alone shall be offering them new directions for thought of course through such persons as will not be suspected of solidarity with us.
 * The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Zion (1934) published by Sergei Nilus
 * The past, he reflected, had not merely been altered, it had been actually destroyed. For how could you establish even the most obvious fact when there existed no record outside your own memory?
 * To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself...
 * That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word ‘doublethink’ involved the use of doublethink.
 * George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949), Chapter III.

 * The new aristocracy was made up for the most part of bureaucrats, scientists, technicians, trade-union organizers, publicity experts, sociologists, teachers, journalists, and professional politicians... shaped and brought together by the barren world of monopoly industry and centralized government... intent on crushing opposition.
 * By comparison with that existing today, all the tyrannies of the past were half-hearted and inefficient... in the past no government had the power to keep its citizens under constant surveillance... Every citizen, or at least every citizen important enough to be worth watching, could be kept for twenty-four hours a day under the eyes of the police and in the sound of official propaganda, with all other channels of communication closed. The possibility of enforcing not only complete obedience to the will of the State, but complete uniformity of opinion on all subjects, now existed for the first time.
 * George Orwell in Nineteen Eighty-Four (1949)
 * The American journalist, Edward Bernays, is often described as the man who invented modern propaganda. The nephew of Sigmund Freud, the pioneer of psycho-analysis, it was Bernays who coined the term “public relations” as a euphemism for spin and its deceptions.  In 1929, he persuaded feminists to promote cigarettes for women by smoking in the New York Easter Parade – behaviour then considered outlandish. One feminist, Ruth Booth, declared, “Women! Light another torch of freedom! Fight another sex taboo!” Bernays’ influence extended far beyond advertising. His greatest success was his role in convincing the American public to join the slaughter of the First World War.  The secret, he said, was “engineering the consent” of people in order to “control and regiment [them] according to our will without their knowing about it”.  He described this as “the true ruling power in our society” and called it an “invisible government”.  Today, the invisible government has never been more powerful and less understood. In my career as a journalist and film-maker, I have never known propaganda to insinuate our lives and as it does now and to go unchallenged.
 * John Pilger, Inside the Invisible Government: War, Propaganda, Clinton & Trump, Information Clearing House, October 28, 2016

 * Propaganda is most effective when our consent is engineered by those with a fine education – Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Columbia — and with careers on the BBC, the Guardian, the New York Times, the Washington Post. These organisations are known as the liberal media. They present themselves as enlightened, progressive tribunes of the moral zeitgeist. They are anti-racist, pro-feminist and pro-LGBT. And they love war.  While they speak up for feminism, they support rapacious wars that deny the rights of countless women, including the right to life. In 2011, Libya, then a modern state, was destroyed on the pretext that Muammar Gaddafi was about to commit genocide on his own people.  That was the incessant news; and there was no evidence. It was a lie.... Ukraine is another media triumph. Respectable liberal newspapers such as the New York Times, the Washington Post and the Guardian, and mainstream broadcasters such as the BBC, NBC, CBS, CNN have played a critical role in conditioning their viewers to accept a new and dangerous cold war. All have misrepresented events in Ukraine as a malign act by Russia when, in fact, the coup in Ukraine in 2014 was the work of the United States, aided by Germany and Nato.
 * John Pilger, Inside the Invisible Government: War, Propaganda, Clinton & Trump, Information Clearing House, October 28, 2016
 * Illusions are always illusions of differences. How could it be otherwise? By definition, an illusion is an attempt to make something real that is regarded as of major importance, but is recognized as being untrue. The mind therefore seeks to make it true out of its intensity of desire to have it for itself. Illusions are travesties of creation; attempts to bring truth to lies. Finding truth unacceptable, the mind revolts against truth and gives itself an illusion of victory.p. 25 Every illusion is one of fear, whatever form it takes. And the attempt to escape from one illusion into another MUST fail. p. 385
 * Helen Schucman in A Course in Miracles  (1976)

 * Love is a simple thing and a deep thing: it is an act of life and not an illusion. Art is an illusion.
 * George Bernard Shaw in: Elsie Bonita Adams Bernard Shaw and the Aesthetes, Ohio State University Press, 1971, p. 139.

 * Groupthink is characterized by a shared "illusion of invulnerability," an exaggerated belief in the competence of the group, a "shared illusion of unanimity" within the group...
 * Fredric Solomon and Robert Q. Marston elaborating on I.L. Janis theory in: Medical Implications of Nuclear War (1986), p. 544.

When people decry civilian deaths caused by the U.S government, they're aiding propaganda efforts. In sharp contrast, when civilian deaths are caused by bombers who hate America, the perpetrators are evil and those deaths are tragedies. When they put bombs in cars and kill people, they're uncivilized killers. When we put bombs on missiles and kill people, we're upholding civilized values. When they kill, they're terrorists. When we kill, we're striking against terror.
 * When terrorists attack, they’re terrorizing. When we attack, we’re retaliating. When they respond to our retaliation with further attacks, they’re terrorizing again. When we respond with further attacks, we’re retaliating again.
 * Norman Solomon, "Orwellian Logic 101 — A Few Simple Lessons", in FAIR (27 August 1998)

 * Orwell's 1984 explained that "the special function of certain Newspeak words … was not so much to express meanings as to destroy them."  During the week after U.S. missiles hit sites in Sudan and Afghanistan, some Americans seemed uncomfortable. A vocal minority even voiced opposition.  But approval was routine among those who had learned a few easy Orwellian lessons...
 * At all times, Americans must be kept fully informed about who to hate and fear... No matter how many times they’ve lied in the past, U.S. officials are credible in the present. When they... [say] the bombed pharmaceutical factory in Khartoum was making ingredients for nerve gas, that should be good enough for us....
 * Norman Solomon in Orwellian Logic 101 — A Few Simple Lessons, FAIR (27 August 1998)

 * Might doesn’t make right — except in the real world, when it’s American might. Only someone of dubious political orientation would split hairs about international law.
 * Norman Solomon in Orwellian Logic 101 — A Few Simple Lessons, FAIR (27 August 1998)
 * Know ye not then the Riddling of the Bards? Confusion, and illusion, and relation, Elusion, and occasion, and evasion? I mock thee not but as thou mockest me, And all that see thee, for thou art not who Thou seemest, but I know thee who thou art. And now thou goest up to mock the King, Who cannot brook the shadow of any lie.
 * Alfred, Lord Tennyson in Idylls of the King (1885) Gareth and Lynette.
 * When one illusion doesn't work then we become disillusioned and we go around with our antennae up looking for another illusion.
 * Anam Thubten in: No Self, No Problem: Awakening to Our True Nature, Shambhala Publications, 11 June 2013, p. 88.

 * Identification with your mind creates an opaque screen of concepts, labels, images, words, judgments, and definitions that blocks all true relationship. It comes between you and yourself, between you and your fellow man and woman, between you and nature, between you and God. It is this screen of thought that creates the illusion of separateness, the illusion that there is you and a totally separate "other." p. 15
 * Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now (1997)
 * If you can recognize illusion as illusion, it dissolves. The recognition of illusion is also its ending. Its survival depends on your mistaking it for reality.  p. 20
 * Eckhart Tolle, A New Earth (2005)
 * Back in 1938, when fascism was sweeping Europe, legendary investigative reporter George Seldes observed that “it is possible to fool all the people all the time — when government and press cooperate.” Unfortunately, we have reached that point.   p. 156
 * Gary Webb, Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press (2002)

 * The variety of constraints pressing upon man give rise to the illusion of several distinct species that cannot communicate.
 * Simone Weil as quoted in Law and Democracy in the Empire of Force (2009), by James Boyd White and H. Jefferson Powell, p. 108, University of Michigan Press, 01 Jan 2009

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"Developers devcelopers developers..." is a real quote, it is not vandalism. [Developers Video]

I dont see any quote for where he said that Eric Schmidt is a fucking pussy! lol

Why is uncyclopedia a source for one of the quotes?
 * Fixed source, but everything on uncyclopedia is the truth! --144.173.6.66 11:54, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

The quote "Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches." is listed as unsourced since the original Sun-Times article has disappeared. However, the article is still available at the WayBack Machine [article]. Shouldn't that count as a source? -- zanoi

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I removed the following quote because I find no mention of it prior to the cited June 2, 2006 blog post. If this were really a famous quote from a decde ago as claimed, it would be all over the internet. The blogger may have been paraphrasing or summarizing an annecdote (N.B. "said that"), but it seems very doubtful this is an actual quotation. ~ Ningauble 15:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Within a few years there will only be a handful of websites left. People will use their Favorites to navigate to those destination sites and nobody will need a Search engine except for a few students and professors.
 * Attributed in a blog

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War of the Worlds (2005 film)

War of the Worlds is a 2005 science-fiction action film starring Tom Cruise and Dakota Fanning, based on the eponymous novel by H. G. Wells.
 * Directed by Steven Spielberg. Written by Josh Friedman, David Koepp, based on the novel by H.G. Wells.

They're Already Here. taglines

Narrator

 * [first lines] No one would have believed, in the early years of the 21st century, that our world was being watched by intelligences greater than our own; that as men busied themselves about their various concerns, they observed and studied, the way a man with a microscope might scrutinize the creatures that swarm and multiply in a drop of water. With infinite complacency, men went to and fro about the globe, confident of our empire over this world. Yet, across the gulf of space, intellects vast and cruel and unsympathetic regarded our planet with envious eyes...and slowly, and surely, drew their plans against us.
 * [last lines] From the moment the invaders arrived, breathed our air, ate and drank, they were doomed. They were undone, destroyed, after all of man's weapons and devices had failed, by the tiniest creatures that God in his wisdom put upon this Earth. By the toll of a billion deaths, man had earned his immunity, his right to survive among this planet's infinite organisms. And that right is ours against all challenges. For neither do men live nor die in vain.

Ray Ferrier

 * [to Robbie] Okay, hey, enough of the "Ray" shit, alright! It's Dad, Sir, or, if you want, Mr. Ferrier. It sounds a little weird to me, but you decide.
 * [to Robbie] You can hate me, but I love you!
 * Two for you, two for Robbie, two for me... One for the house.
 * [looking out at the teleporter's bolt of lightning] Where's the thunder...?
 * Robbie, you wanna head in that direction?! There's nothing living in that direction, Robbie!
 * We're gonna leave this house in 60 seconds.
 * Let's try a plan that doesn't involve your 10-year-old sister joining the army?
 * Get in the car, Manny, or you're gonna die!
 * [angrily, to a soilder] LOOK AT THE GODDAMN BIRDS!!!!

Rachel Ferrier

 * [as the family is chased by a tripod] Is it the terrorists?!
 * [just before the tripods appear] The trees are moving...
 * [unseen] Are we still alive?
 * [crying, and softly hitting him] Robbie! What are you trying to do?! Where are you trying to go?! Who's going to take care of me if you go?!
 * Is it them?! Is it them?!

Harlan Ogilvy

 * This is not a war any more than there's a war between men and maggots... This is an extermination.
 * You and me - I don't think we're on the same page.
 * I'm dead set on living. [laughs, to himself] "Dead set on living".
 * So what are you gonna do? Hide and wait here till they come and get you? Is that your "plan"?

Other

 * Reporter: Once the tripods start to move, no more news comes out of that area.
 * Marine Corps Captain: Our mission Lieutenant, is to delay their advance until those refugees get to safety! Now keep firing!
 * Marine Corps Officer: Guidons, Guidons, Black Six. Attack, attack, attack!
 * National Guard Lieutenant: Load the Gustavs, this is gonna be a tough kill!
 * Tim: (awkwardly) I'm.....uh.....I'm gonna wait outside.
 * Mary Ann: You're out of milk. And everything else.
 * Captured Army Private: Everybody, down!-[when explosion is about to occur]

Dialogue

 * Mary-Anne: Take care of our kids.
 * Ray: Mary-Anne, you've got nothing to worry about.

 * Ray: [after a lightning flash] It's okay, you're fine.
 * Rachel: It hit right behind our house!
 * Ray: Yeah... uh... it's not gonna hit there again, okay? Because lightning doesn't strike twice in the same- [lightning strikes the same place] holy shit!

 * Robbie: Is it the terrorists?
 * Ray: No... this came from someplace else.
 * Robbie: What, you mean like Europe?
 * Ray: No, Robbie! Not like Europe!

 * [Robbie, Ray and Rachel are fleeing the tripods along the highway]
 * Robbie: Where are we going?!
 * Ray: We gotta go! We got to be the only working car around here. I'm not stopping until we are clear.
 * Robbie: Clear of what?!
 * Ray: We gotta go!
 * Robbie: What is going on?!
 * Ray: You saw! We're under attack!!
 * [Rachel begins to cry and scream hysterically]
 * Robbie: By who?! Who is attacking us?!
 * Ray: Rachel... Rachel you've got to keep it down Rachel!
 * [Rachel, still crying, starts to hyperventilate]
 * Ray: Rachel! Shut up, Rachael! I can't think!!
 * Robbie: You are freaking her out!!
 * Ray: Well, look, I'm driving!! Do something!!
 * [Robbie turns to Rachel and shows her an arm formation]
 * Robbie: Okay, put 'em up, Rache. Make the arms. [Rachel copies the formation, still panicking. Robbie holds her arms] This space right here, this is yours. This belongs to you, right?
 * Rachel: [taking deep breaths, trying to calm herself] Yes...
 * Robbie: [reassuring her] You're safe in your space.
 * Rachel: I'm safe in my space...
 * Robbie: You're safe in your space. Nothing is going to happen to you in your space.
 * Rachel: I'm really scared...
 * Robbie: I'm gonna go to the front seat to talk to Dad.
 * Rachel: No...
 * Robbie: I will be two feet away, okay. Will you hold my hand?
 * Rachel: Yes.
 * Robbie: Are you gonna be okay?
 * Rachel: Yes.

 * Ray: Ketchup.. mustard.. Tabasco sauce.. vinaigrette.. This is good, Robbie, I told you to pack food. What the hell is this?
 * Robbie: That's all that was in your kitchen.

 * (When they're hiding in their mother's house)
 * Rachel: I'm allergic to peanut butter.
 * Ray: Since when?
 * Rachel: Birth.

 * Rachel: If everything's okay, why do we have to sleep in the basement? We have perfectly good beds.
 * Ray: It's, like a slumber-party. [looks around] This is a nice basement...
 * Rachel: I wanna sleep in my bed. I got back problems.
 * Ray: Uh, well, you know how on the Weather Channel, when they say a tornado's coming and they tell you to go to the basement for safety? It's like that.
 * Rachel: There's gonna be tornadoes?
 * Ray: Okay, Rachel, no more talking.
 * [Robbie puts his cap on Rachel's head.]
 * Rachel: Could you be a little nicer to me, God?

 * Reporter: Hey, were you on that plane?
 * [Ray shakes his head]
 * Reporter: Too bad. Would have made a great story.

Taglines

 * They're Already Here.
 * This Summer, The Last War On Earth Won't Be Started By Humans.

About War of the Worlds (2005 film)

 * Though War of the Worlds may have been based on an H.G. Wells novel from 1897, the film is very much about a specific, confusing, terrible time in American history: the period directly following the 9/11 terrorist attacks and how we, as a country, reacted to it. The movie tries to work through this collective angst and trauma, a fact that is, somehow, even more obvious watching it more than a decade after its initial release. The story begins in New York City, where Tom Cruise's Ray works on the docks and lives in New Jersey. When the alien attack first begins, greater New York City is the "ground zero" we see it depicted from. Ray's New Jersey community, filled with a sense of tight-knit camraderie and friendly neighborhood cops that feel totally different in the context of post-9/11 than they do in our current cultural context, is where this all begins for us. From there, we get several iconic images Americans have come to associate with 9/11: from traumatized people covered in ash to hordes of weary people walking across bridges to the signs people have made to look for their missing loved ones. At one point, when Ray and his kids are driving away from NYC, Dakota Fanning's Rachel asks if it is "the terrorists" as the city is destroyed behind them. This movie is also really pro-military. Pretty much whenever there is a heroic moment, it is a military man leading the way. The National Guard makes recurring appearances, somehow still in operation in the midst of this batshit crazy alien attack that the Earth is wholly unprepared for. This is not only an allegory for the police and firemen whose heroism has become a central tenet of our 9/11 narrative, but of the Iraq War that began probably around the time of this film's initial development.
 * In re-watching War of the Worlds, it's hard not to compare it to Battlestar Galactica. War of the Worlds is dealing with a lot of the same themes as Battlestar Galactica, which premiered in the same year and was also a direct response to 9/11 and post-9/11 American life.
 * Kayti Burt, “Steven Spielberg's War of the Worlds is His Most Underappreciated Movie”, Den of Geek, (Jun 29, 2016).

 * SPIEGEL: Mr. Spielberg, no other film director has done more image-building for aliens than you: in your films "Close Encounters of the Third Kind" (1977) and "E.T." (1982) you describe them as loveable creatures. In your latest film, "War of the Worlds," which opens in cinemas on June 29, you have aliens from outer space attacking the world. What's the reason behind your change of heart?
 * Spielberg: I probably became somewhat...
 * Cruise: ...more daring, am I right?
 * Spielberg: Yes, there's something in that. I used to be the goodwill ambassador between the aliens civilizations and our own, and did everything I could to prepare the ground for a peaceful encounter. That bored me. I grew up with the science-fiction films of the 1950s and 60s, in which flying saucers attack Earth and people have to resist the aliens with all their might. So I thought: before I retire I should direct a really mean invasion from outer space.
 * SPIEGEL: Your film "War of the Worlds" is named after the futuristic novel of the same name by H.G. Wells, written in 1898. At the end of the novel it says that Earth is "no longer a fenced-in and safe place to live." Doesn't this sentence exactly describe the feeling that Americans have had about life since September 11?
 * Cruise: It describes the feeling about life all over the world. We live in a world in which we are able to communicate very quickly in many different ways, and yet we find communicating more difficult than ever. When in fact we need communication more urgently than ever, because the enemies that threaten us are universal: drugs, illiteracy and crime. We have to fight against them together. The film is a metaphor for that battle.
 * Spielberg: We wanted to make a film in which people join forces, across all borders and despite all their differences, in order to fight against an enemy who is not of a human nature.
 * SPIEGEL: But the film is set almost exclusively in the United States. Does it really describe a global catastrophe?
 * Spielberg: It describes a global catastrophe from a subjective point of view. The audience experiences the war from the perspective of Tom's character, from the point of view of an American docker. But we leave it in no doubt that the entire Earth is threatened.

 * SPIEGEL: Mr. Spielberg, your plans to make a film of "War of the Worlds" date back to the early 1990s. Would you have made the film if September 11 had not happened?
 * Spielberg: Probably not. Wells' novel has been made into a film several times, notably always in times of international crisis: World War II had just begun when Orson Welles terrified millions of Americans with his legendary radio play version, the headlines were dominated by reports on Hitler's invasion of Poland and Hungary. When the first screen version came into the movie theatres in 1953, the Americans were very afraid of a nuclear attack by the Soviet Union. And our version also comes at a time when Americans feel deeply vulnerable.
 * SPIEGEL: Won't this film actually heighten that sense of vulnerability?
 * Spielberg: It probably will. On the other hand, it is hard to image us feeling even more vulnerable than we already do.
 * Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg, [HTTP://WWW.SPIEGEL.DE/INTERNATIONAL/SPIEGEL/SPIEGEL-INTERVIEW-WITH-TOM-CRUISE-AND-STEVEN-SPIELBERG-ACTOR-TOM-CRUISE-OPENS-UP-ABOUT-HIS-BELIEFS-IN-THE-CHURCH-OF-SCIENTOLOGY-A-353577.HTML Spiegel Interview With Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg], Spiegel, (August 17, 2005).

 * War of the Worlds is a big, clunky movie containing some sensational sights but lacking the zest and joyous energy we expect from Steven Spielberg.
 * The problem may be with the alien invasion itself. It is not very interesting. We learn that countless years ago, invaders presumably but not necessarily from Mars buried huge machines all over the Earth. Now they activate them with lightning bolts, each one containing an alien (in what form, it is hard to say). With the aliens at the controls, these machines crash up out of the Earth, stand on three towering but spindly legs and begin to zap the planet with death rays. Later, their tentacles suck our blood and fill steel baskets with our writhing bodies. To what purpose? Why zap what you later want to harvest? Why harvest humans? And, for that matter, why balance these towering machines on ill-designed supports? If evolution has taught us anything, it is that limbs of living things, from men to dinosaurs to spiders to centipedes, tend to come in numbers divisible by two. Three legs are inherently not stable, as the movie demonstrates when one leg of a giant tripod is damaged, and it falls helplessly to the ground. The tripods are indeed faithful to the original illustrations for H.G. Wells' novel The War of the Worlds, and to the machines described in the historic 1938 Orson Welles radio broadcast. But the book and radio program depended on our imaginations to make them believable, and the movie came at a time of lower expectations in special effects. You look at Spielberg's machines and you don't get much worked up, because you're seeing not alien menace but clumsy retro design. Perhaps it would have been a good idea to set the movie in 1898, at the time of Wells' novel, when the tripods represented a state-of-the-art alien invasion.
 * The human characters are disappointingly one-dimensional. Cruise's character is given a smidgen of humanity (he's an immature, divorced hotshot who has custody of the kids for the weekend) and then he wanders out with his neighbors to witness strange portents in the sky, and the movie becomes a story about grabbing and running and ducking and hiding and trying to fight back. There are scenes in which poor Dakota Fanning, as his daughter, has to be lost or menaced, and then scenes in which she is found or saved, all with much desperate shouting. A scene where an alien tentacle explores a ruined basement where they're hiding is a mirror of a better scene in "Jurassic Park" where characters hide from a curious raptor. The thing is, we never believe the tripods and their invasion are practical. How did these vast metal machines lie undetected for so long beneath the streets of a city honeycombed with subway tunnels, sewers, water and power lines, and foundations?
 * Roger Ebert, [HTTPS://WWW.ROGEREBERT.COM/REVIEWS/WAR-OF-THE-WORLDS-2005 “War of the Worlds"], Rogerebert.com, (June 28, 2005).

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Talk:Taylor Caldwell

Indented bullets have gone wrong at the end of this article - can anyone help please?! Thanx! Jaycey 30 June 2005 22:44 (UTC)

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 * "I am not alone at all, I thought. I was never alone at all. And that, of course, is the message of Christmas. We are never alone. Not when the night is darkest, the wind coldest, the word seemingly most indifferent. For this is still the time God chooses."

 * "Despair is sometimes the great energizer of the mind, though sometimes its flowering may be sterile."

 * "Men who retain irony are not to be trusted. They can't always resist an impulse to tickle themselves."

 * "He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down and without walls."

 * "One, if one is sensible, blames government, not the servers of government, not those entangled in their governments."

 * "Honest men live on charity in their age; the almshouses are full of men who never stole a copper penny. Honest men are the fools and the saints."

 * "It is not always wise to appear singular."

 * "We don't strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, nor swim in an ocean and drown in a puddle."

 * "It is inevitable, that eventually the people will demand absolute security from the state... And absolute security is absolute slavery."

 * "A writer has got to be a cynic. You’ve got to look at life clearly. No rose-colored glasses. The human race is not very admirable. It was a big mistake of God’s...I think I appeal to readers because there’s nothing false or hypocritical in what I write. And they recognize themselves, they recognize their fears. And they know what bastards they are."

 * "A man who feels, views life as a tragedy. A man who thinks, views life as a comedy."

 * "Surely there is enough space in all the world for all."

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Talk:Franz Kafka

How is a quote from Kafka's story "Give it up!" mis-attributed to him?

How is Kafka a "Bohemian"??
 * He was born and grew up in Prague (Praha), Czech Republic, in the former Bohemia. So he was Bohemian by geographical origin. He was ethnically Jewish, and he wrote in German, so he is considered a German writer. --Aphaia 30 June 2005 23:08 (UTC)

Is this a Kafka quote, and if so, from where? "The meaning of life is that it stops."

"One of the first signs of the beginnings of understanding is the wish to die. This life appears unbearable, another unattainable. One is no longer ashamed of wanting to die; one asks to be moved from the old cell, which one hates, to a new one, which one will only in time come to hate." "understanding" is not really a fitting translation of "Erkenntnis". I think that "cognition" would be more suitable.

Furthermore the quote is quite incomplete. "Ein Rest von Glauben wirkt dabei mit, während des Transportes werde zufällig der Herr durch den Gang kommen, den Gefangenen ansehen und sagen: 'Diesen sollt ihr nicht wieder einsperren. Er kommt zu mir.'" might push a interpretation into the correct direction. Here try of a translation: "A remainder of faith assists thereby, the Lord will appear in the corridor by coincidence, facing the prisoner saying: 'You shall not imprison this one again. He will come to me'"

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 * Anything that has real and lasting value is always a gift from within.

 * Books are a narcotic

 * Death confronts us not unlike the historical battle scene that hangs on the wall of the classroom. It is our task to obscure or quite obliterate the picture by our deeds while we are still in this world.

 * Don't despair, not even over the fact that you don't despair.

 * Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy. The chains of tormented mankind are made out of red tape.

Conversations with Kafka, by Gustav Janouch. Pg 120

 * Evil is whatever distracts.

 * I am free, that is why I'm lost.

 * I am nothing but a mass of spikes going through me.

 * I do not read advertisements — I would spend all my time wanting things

 * I have the true feeling of myself only when I am unbearably unhappy.

 * I was so insecure about everything that all I was really sure of was what I already held in my hands or my mouth or what was well on its way there.

 * If the French were German in their essence, then how the Germans would admire them!

 * In argument similes are like songs in love; they describe much, but prove nothing.

 * In theory there is a possibility of perfect happiness: To believe in the indestructible element within one, and not to strive towards it.

 * It is the thousandth forgetting of a dream dreamt a thousand times and forgotten a thousand times, and who can damn us merely for forgetting for the thousandth time? [Investigations of a Dog]

 * It is your people who make the ultimate difference. You put the investment into training the people and then, when you get invited to the party with the big boys, that is a unique selling point.

 * It's often safer to be in chains than to be free.
 * Variant: It is often better to be in chains than to be free.

 * Leopards break into the temple and drink the sacrificial chalices dry; this occurs repeatedly, again and again; finally it can be reckoned upon beforehand and becomes part of the ceremony.

 * May I kiss you then? On this miserable paper? I might as well open the window and kiss the night air.

 * My fear... is my substance, and probably the best part of me.

 * My guiding principle is this: Guilt is never to be doubted.

 * My life is hesitation before birth.

 * My peers, lately, have found companionship through means of intoxication — it makes them sociable. I, however, cannot force myself to use drugs to cheat on my loneliness — it is all that I have — and when the drugs and alcohol dissipate, will be all that my peers have as well.

 * Paths are made by walking.
 * Wege entstehen dadurch, dass man sie geht.

 * Productivity is being able to do things that you were never able to do before.

 * I googled this and it's attributed to Jim Manzi here --Mathnerd314159 (talk) 21:38, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

 * Start with what is right rather than what is acceptable.

 * The dream reveals the reality which conception lags behind. That is the horror of life — the terror of art.

 * The experience of life consists of the experience which the spirit has of itself in matter and as matter, in mind and as mind, in emotion, as emotion, etc.

 * The meaning of life is that it stops.

 * The world will freely offer itself to you to be unmasked.

 * There will be no proof that I ever was a writer

 * This inescapable duty to observe oneself: if someone else is observing me, naturally I have to observe myself too; if none observe me, I have to observe myself all the closer

 * This little woman, then, is very ill-pleased with me, she always finds something objectionable in me, I am always doing the wrong thing to her. I annoy her at every step; if a life could be cut into the smallest of small pieces and every scrap of it could be separately assessed, every scrap of my life would certainly be an offense to her.

 * We are sinful not merely because we have eaten of the tree of knowledge, but also because we have not eaten of the tree of life.

 * What does the court want with you? It receives you when you come and it dismisses you when you go.

 * What have I in common with Jews? I have hardly anything in common with myself.

 * Who has the gift to recognize beauty, will not live long

 * Writing is a form of prayer.

 * Writing is a sweet, wonderful reward.

 * You are free and that is why you are lost.

 * You can hold yourself back from the sufferings of the world, that is something you are free to do and it accords with your nature, but perhaps this very holding back is the one suffering you could avoid.

 * Youth is happy because it has the ability to see beauty. Anyone who keeps the ability to see beauty never grows old.

 * All language is but a poor translation.

 * One sees the sun slowly set, yet one is surprised when it suddenly becomes dark.

 * A lawyer is a person who writes a 10,000-word document and calls it a brief. (surely this isn't Kafka---does this even work in German?)

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User talk:140.107.62.180

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Talk:Jokes

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Talk:Frank Crane

I have several of Frank Crane's essays online in a very usable form, and I hope to add more. I agree with the comments below that "The Human Heart" goes beyond the scope of an encyclopedic entry, but I would be happy to add it, and "Clean Business" to the pages I have already uploaded.

My Frank Crane uploads are at:

http://savingcommunities.org/docs/crane.frank/

-- Dan Sullivan

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This article was preserved after a vote for its deletion. See its archived VfD entry for details. — Jeff Q (talk) 30 June 2005 23:54 (UTC)

The Human Heart
The text currently listed under "The Human Heart" is actually the entire essay, word for word. As the copyright has expired, there is no concern about copyright violation, but I question whether the whole essay is quoteworthy. If anyone should decide to trim this material, it might be posted in its entirety on Wikisource. In fact, the whole work could be put there, if the original poster(s) should feel it worthwhile. — Jeff Q (talk) 1 July 2005 01:02 (UTC)

Lincoln quotation veracity?
Crane gave the first mention of the Lincoln quotation "folks are usually about as happy as they make up their minds to be," but sadly he did not give a source. (In his 1914 January 01, Syracuse Herald, New Year’s Resolutions column; https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/10/20/happy-minds/#note-4604-2. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln#Attributed) (Curiously in later books Crane, e.g. Four Minute Essays, 1919, and Adventures in Common Sense, 1920, "21", 1930, Crane mentions other routes to happiness and does not again use this quote.) I wondered if anyone had any view on whether Crane would make such a quote up? is he a reliable source of true quotations? JCJC777, 14 Dec 2020

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Vincent Starrett

Charles Vincent Emerson Starrett (26 October 1886 - 5 January 1974), known as Vincent Starrett, was an American writer and newspaperman and a co-founder of the Baker Street Irregulars.

Quotes

 * When we are collecting books, we are collecting happiness.
 * Attributed to Starrett in Michael Dirda, On Conan Doyle: Or, The Whole Art of Storytelling (2012), page 112.

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Fred W. Friendly

Fred W. Friendly (October 30, 1915 – March 3, 1998) was a president of CBS News and the creator, along with Edward R. Murrow, of the documentary television program See It Now. He originated the concept of public-access television cable TV channels.

Quotes

 * No mighty king, no ambitious emperor, no pope, or prophet ever dreamt of such an awesome pulpit, so potent a magic wand.
 * p.vii, Foreword, Presidential Television, A Twentieth Century Fund report, Newton N. Minow, John Bartlow Martin, Lee M. Mitchell, Basic Books, 1973.

 * Television makes so much at its worst that it can't afford to do its best.
 * Source: US News & World Report 12 Jun 67, After becoming professor of broadcast journalism at Columbia University)

 * Television was supposed to be a national park. (Instead) it has become a money machine... It’s a commodity now, just like pork bellies.
 * Quoted by Rushworth M Kidder “Videoculture” Christian Science Monitor 10 Jun 85

 * A composite is a euphemism for a lie. It's disorderly. It's dishonest and it's not journalism.
 * Commenting on New Yorker staff writer Alastair Reid's use of composite characters.
 * p. 65, The interplay of influence: mass media and their publics in news, advertising, politics, Wadsworth series in mass communication, Kathleen Hall Jamieson, Karlyn Kohrs Campbell, Edition 2, Wadsworth, 1988.

 * "I have a motto: My job is not to make up anybody's mind but to make the agony of decision making so intense that you can escape only by thinking."
 * Open Mind Interview

 * What we don't know as a nation and as a citizen can kill us.
 * Open Mind Interview

 * "You gotta be willing to be lucky."
 * Friendlyvision

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Anatole Broyard

Anatole Broyard (July 16, 1920 – October 11, 1990) was an American literary critic for the New York Times. He is notable for denying his African ancestry by passing as white.

Quotes

 * It is one of the paradoxes of American literature that our writers are forever looking back with love and nostalgia at lives they couldn’t wait to leave.
 * New York Times 16th March 1973.

 * An aphorism is a generalization of sorts, and our present-day writers seem more at home with the particular.
 * ‘Wisdom of Aphorisms’, New York Times, 30th April 1983.

 * The contents of someone's bookcase are part of his history, like an ancestral portrait.
 * ‘About Books, Recoiling, Rereading, Retelling’, New York Times, February 22, 1987.

 * A good book is never exhausted. It goes on whispering to you from the wall.
 * ‘About Books, Recoiling, Rereading, Retelling’, New York Times, February 22, 1987.

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Augustine Birrell

Augustine Birrell (19 January 1850 – 20 November 1933) was an English essayist, biographer and politician.

In the Name of the Bodleian, and Other Essays

 * A great library easily begets affection, which may deepen into love.
 * "In the Name of the Bodleian"

 * It is pleasant to be admitted into the birth-chamber of a great idea destined to be translated into action.
 * "In the Name of the Bodleian"

 * We do not get many glimpses of Bodley's habits of life or ways of thinking, but there is no difficulty in discerning a strenuous, determined, masterful figure, bent during his later years, perhaps tyrannously bent, on effecting his object. He was not, we learn from a correspondent, 'hasty to write but when the posts do urge him, saying there need be no answer to your letters till more leisure breed him opportunity.' 'Words are women, deeds are men,' is another saying of his which I reprint without comment.
 * "In the Name of the Bodleian"

 * Great is bookishness and the charm of books.
 * "Bookworms"

 * Personally, I am dead against the burning of books.
 * "Bookworms"

 * Oh, those scoundrelly Charity Commissioners! […] By the side of these anthropoid apes, the genuine bookworm, the paper-eating insect, ravenous as he once was, has done comparatively little mischief.
 * "Bookworms"

 * There were no books in Eden, and there will be none in heaven.
 * "Gossip in a Library"

 * There are no habits of man more alien to the doctrine of the Communist than those of the collector.
 * "Gossip in a Library"

 * It can never be wrong to give pleasure.
 * "Gossip in a Library"

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User talk:24.10.146.92

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Film articles
I would like to thank the person who has been using this IP address for recent contributions to film quote articles. I would like to request, though, that they please review the information provided in the Notes section of List of films (mentioned in bold at the top of the article) and the format template provided at Templates to see how we name and format articles here on Wikiquote. (There is, as well, a general overview of Wikiquote practices at Help:Contents and basic wiki editing at How to edit a page.) This will help them understand how quotes are presented in film articles, and prevent other editors from having to reformat and rename articles that they create.

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 * Hi. I'm Shreshth. I study in 9th grade in Delhi Public School, RK Puram, in New Delhi. That's in India for those of you who don't know. It's rated among the best schools in India.
 * I joined Wikiquote around July 1, 2005. So I'm relatively new around here. I basically use Wikiquote for help in my projects and homework. I think it's the coolest colection of quotes ever. I haven't got around to much editing yet. You can check out my contributions here or you can go to my talk page

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Welcome
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こちらでもよろしくお願いしますｗ --Aphaia 1 July 2005 09:12 (UTC)

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User talk:193.82.112.28

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User talk:AmitKoth

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User:Idan d

 * A user in the Hebrew Wikipedia
 * A user in the Hebrew Wiktionary
 * A Birucrat in the Hebrew Wikiqoute
 * A sysop in the Hebrew Wikibooks
 * A user in the Hebrew Wikisource

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Talk:Abraham Cowley

quote about books is from 24.10.146.92 ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 1 July 2005 12:53 (UTC)

Unsourced

 * Build yourself a book-nest to forget the world without.

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Talk:John Dryden

Did Dryden ever write "To save the effusion of my people's blood"?. It's attributed to him everywhere on the 'net without a specific source. (203.51.103.134, from history)
 * Good question, I will put your question on Project:Reference desk to gather wider interested people. --Aphaia 1 July 2005 16:28 (UTC)

Men
Men are but children of a larger growth is a known phrase of John Dryden, only if I knew where he wrote it, I would add it to the page. Edoderoo (talk) 14:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Hi Edo, the quote is from the 1677 play All for love, scene I. The quote is the first sentence of the Dola's comment:
 * Dola. Men are but children of a larger growth ;
 * Our appetites as apt to change as theirs,
 * And full as craving too, and full as vain;
 * And yet the soul, shut up in her dark
 * Viewing so clear abroad, at home sees nothing;
 * But, like a mole in earth, busy and blind,
 * Works all her folly up, and casts it outward
 * To the world's open view. Thus I discover'd,
 * And blamed the love of ruin'd Antony;
 * Yet wish that I were he, to be so ruin'd.
 * See also here. -- Mdd (talk) 17:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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User talk:140.247.117.185

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Eric Shinseki

Eric Ken Shinseki (エリック・シンセキ; born 28 November 1942) is a retired United States Army general who served as the seventh United States Secretary of Veterans Affairs (2009-2014). His final U.S. Army post was as the 34th Chief of Staff of the Army (1999–2003). Shinseki is a veteran of two tours of combat in the Vietnam War, in which he was awarded three Bronze Stars for valor and two Purple Hearts. He was both the first Asian-American four-star general (1997) and then the Secretary of Veterans Affairs.

Quotes

 * If you dislike change, you're going to dislike irrelevance even more.
 * Quoted in Mackubin Thomas Owens, "Marines Turned Soldiers", National Review Online, December 10, 2001

 * You must love those you lead before you can be an effective leader. You can certainly command without that sense of commitment, but you cannot lead without it.
 * Quoted in "Forever Young: Ten Gifts of Faith for the Graduate" - Page 156 - by Pat Williams, Karen Kingsbury - Religion - 2005

 * I do not want to criticize while my soldiers are still bleeding and dying in Iraq.
 * General Eric K. Shinseki to associates; quoted in

 * It has been very humbling and gratifying to have these men as our role models... Your generation enabled America to close out the twentieth century as the greatest nation in the history of mankind, the only remaining superpower, the world's leading economy and the world's most respected and feared military force in the world- respected by our friends and allies, feared by our adversaries.
 * About the Medal of Honor awardees. Quoted in "Rising Sons" - Page 260 - by Bill Yenne - History - 2007

Quotes about Shinseki

 * General Keane is, as is General Shinseki, they're outstanding Army officers. There's just no question about it. And they say what they believe, and they tell the truth. And they're honorable people and talented people.
 * Donald Rumsfeld,

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User talk:209.43.23.249

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User talk:Zumanity

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User:MWild

"From history we learn that we have not learnt from history." - Georg Hegel (German philosopher. 1770-1831)

"We can be absolutely certain only about things we do not understand." - Eric Hoffer

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.

In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, but in practice there is.

There are 10 sorts of people in the world: people who understand binary, and people who don't.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli (British Prime Minister 1868, 1874-80; novelist. 1804-1801) Attributed to Disreali by Mark Twain in "Autobiography" (1924, vol1).

"Nothing, like something, happens everywhere." - Philip Larkin (English poet. 1922-1985) "I Remember, I Remember", 1955.

"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." - George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four, 1949.

"Half the truth is often a great lie." - Benjamin Franklin

"Success has ruined many a man." - Benjamin Franklin

"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that it has never tried to contact us." - Bill Watterson (Cartoonist, Calvin and Hobbs )

"Light travels faster than sound - isn't that why some people appear bright until you hear them speak? "

- Stephen Wright

"The only sure weapon against bad ideas is better ideas." -- Alfred Whitney Griswold

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User talk:Bvocal

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Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid

Al-Shaykh Al-Mufid (c. 948–1022 CE), also known as Abu Abdullah Muhammad al-Harithi al-Baghdadi al-Mufid, was a 10th century Iraqi scholar and jurist.

Quotes

 * No tool is more beneficial than intelligence. No enemy is more harmful than ignorance.
 * The Book of Guidance into the Lives of the Twelve Imams, 1981, "The Life of the Commander of the Faithful" (I. K. A. Howard (tr.)).

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