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Jagged Edge

Jagged Edge is a 1985 film about a defense attorney who falls in love with her defendant, who may or may not have brutally murdered his wife.
 * Directed by Richard Marquand and written by Joe Eszterhas.

When a murder case is this shocking, which do you trust…your emotions or the evidence? (taglines)

Thomas Krasny

 * The guy had a criminal record as long as my dick.

Other

 * Sam Ransom: [last line, of Jack Forrester] Fuck him, he was trash.

Dialogue

 * Teddy Barnes: Did your mother ever wash your mouth out with soap and water?
 * Sam Ransom: Yeah, but it didn't do any fucking good.

 * Thomas Krasny: He told you, didn't he? He told you! What did he do? Did he phone you? Send you anonymous notes?
 * Teddy Barnes: You'll stop at nothing, won't you? Anyone could've sent those notes; everyone knew—the police in Santa Cruz knew, people in your office knew!
 * Thomas Krasny: Bullshit! Don't you understand what he did? He did the identical crime eighteen months before he murdered his wife! He knew it would get him off the hook! He knew Bobby Slade was seeing his wife! That's why he did the first crime in Santa Cruz! He threw us Bobby Slade as a suspect! He picked that woman very carefully! He knew she played tennis with Slade! He planned this for eighteen months! He is not a psychopath! He is an iceman. He is a monster.

Taglines

 * When a murder case is this shocking, which do you trust…your emotions or the evidence?
 * There are two sides of this mystery. Murder…And Passion.

Cast

 * Glenn Close - Teddy Barnes
 * Jeff Bridges - Jack Forrester
 * Peter Coyote - Thomas Krasny
 * Lance Henriksen - Frank Martin
 * Robert Loggia - Sam Ransom

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User talk:70.51.156.22

Welcome to Wikiquote, the free compendium of quotations! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikiquote, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires you to provide no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including:
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Click here to create an account. By the way, could you add Latin original quotes too? We recommend highly to include the original quotes for both foreign and classical languages. --Aphaia 21:06, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

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Steven Hawley

Steven A. Hawley (born December 12, 1951) is an American astronomer and astronaut.

Unsourced

 * Gee, I thought we'd be a lot higher at MECO!
 * referring to shuttle mission STS 41-D's pad abort; the shuttles engines had ignited seconds before launch when the the launch was aborted with the shuttle still on the ground. MECO, or "Main Engine Cut-Off", usually occurs more than 100 km above the ground as the last stage of the ascent

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Talk:The Office (UK TV series)

Clean Up
Owing to my love of The Office, I have taken it upon myself to completely redesign the layout of this article, in accordance to the template suggested here: Templates/TV_shows. Owing to this new template, it will be much easier to add quotations with multiple characters, the new additions being most notably those involving Tim, Dawn and Gareth, and, eventually, Keith's appraisal from Series 2. My source material for the majority of these quotations shall be the Scripts which were released, although I am aware there are some minor differences in the delivery of the quotations in the actual programme. This may take a while to do, and I will only upload the changes once I have the complete new layout ready. If you have any suggestions regarding the redesign, please leave a comment on my talk page: User talk:Rousey Boy. Rousey Boy 18:40, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

What about the American version of The Office? Currently finished it's first season and coming back to NBC. --209.226.183.164 21:59, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

There should be a seperate section for Tim and Gareth quotes. If someone would create the section, I'd be happy to fill it, however I don't know how to do that. Rousey Boy 20:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Keith's appraisal hearing really should be included!

-im not british, so the accent can be difficult sometimes. it needs to be proof-read, yeah?

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James Boros

James Boros is an American composer and a writer, editor and lecturer on musical topics.

Quotes

 * … I often feel literally nauseated upon hearing works representative of the "new simplicity", or of the "new romantic" genre, works which, by aiming low, targeting only the mock-astral plane of musical yuppiedom, ignore the very dangers which make genuine art both human and transcendent. Fortunately, we are witnessing the growth of a grass-roots movement comprised of composers and performers who, having peeked over the fence surrounding this dungheap, have determined that shovelling shit is not to be their fate, and who are lovingly dedicating their lives to the seemingly endless, often agonizing labor which the production of challenging new works entails.
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Donald Vroon

Donald Richard Vroon (born July 1942) is an American musicologist. He is known for his American Record Guide.

Quotes

 * Who knows what the new century holds for music? I predict that we will bury most of the musical modernism of the 20th, with its need to shock and cause distress.
 * American Record Guide, March/April 2000, quoted in Ashby, Arved, ed. (2004). The Pleasure of Modernist Music. ISBN 1580461433.

 * I have always heard in the music what I am finding out from the books: the man was a tyrant who beat his musicians with insults and temper tantrums. He never smiled when conducting (not even in rehearsals!) never thanked or complimented his men, never made them feel they were valuable partners or had even done a creditable job. He would fail to give them cues, then blame them with curses and insults for needing them! Besides being a compulsive perfectionist, he was childish, petulant, inconsiderate, monomaniacal, and monstrously self-centered. His technique was fear, and I always heard that fear in his music...Reading about him - especially books by people who worked with him - strongly confirmed what I had felt in my bones"
 * On the subject of Toscanini - from Vroon's foreword to The mystery of Leopold Stokowski, By William Ander Smith, Fairleigh Dickinson Univ Press, 1990, ISBN 0838633625

 * When an idealist is 20 he thinks he can make a real difference in the world. At 30 he still thinks so but realizes that a great many people stand in the way. At 40 he realizes that they will never get out of the way. Part of maturity is to accept the fact that we cannot change the world; the world is hell-bent in another direction and not interested in what we have to say or offer. Maturity does not mean giving up your ideals or giving up the fight, but it does mean giving up your illusions--being "dis-illusioned", seeing things as they really are, not "if only".
 * "On Spiritual Matters", American Record Guide, Jul/Aug2004

 * A college education was for me life-changing. It gave me a life-long passion for reading and learning. It challenged my narrowness and parochialism-really forced open my mind. It deepened my commitment to culture in general and to the higher forms of pleasure. Thus it enriched my life-permanently-by confirming me in habits of mind that would benefit me all my life long. Anyone observing could have seen that happening to me (and my fellow students) at the time. A real education is life-changing. You don't go to classes during the week and get drunk in dance bars on the weekend. You discover a higher level of life and pleasure, and you start living it. If the education takes, you keep living it the rest of your life. [...] Education releases you for real joy in the midst of a culture that is abysmally cheap and shabby. The people around you pursue TV, sports, and shopping-- obey the commands of their masters to indulge themselves in every way and not to question the value of what they are fed by the media. But the educated man is critical and even self-critical: he THINKS about things-even things like pleasure. Mindless self-indulgence is no longer enough when you have learned to think.
 * "Critical Convictions", American Record Guide, May/Jun 2002

 * It is much easier to prejudge than to judge. It saves a lot of work to write about all the intellectual baggage one brings to the work. It is harder, even somewhat daunting, to start from scratch with what one is actually hearing. Actually it is not easy at all to make judgements in this field without falling back on preconceived categories. Comparisons often come to the rescue. Stokowski’s Scheherazade is without question an extremely effective, almost magical, performance. If I’m reviewing that work I must know outstanding performances like Stokowski’s. And I must know why it’s outstanding—I must know it by listening to it, not merely by reputation. I must compare the newcomer to it to see if he manages to make as much of the music.

 * Now we all know that new recordings carry Danger signs all over them. Danger: fantastic sound can subvert your judgement. Danger: artist’s names and reputations can affect the way we listen. Danger: a new recording has not had time to win you over—it may be unfair to compare it to one you have known for 20 years. [...] Danger: things that irritate now may endear themselves to us in time. Danger: there was only one Stokowski.
 * "The Art of Criticism III: Evaluating Performances", American Record Guide, September 1, 2009

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User talk:GordonWatts~enwikiquote/Archive01

 * DO NOT EDIT OR POST REPLIES TO THIS PAGE. THIS PAGE IS AN ARCHIVE.
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 * This archive page covers approximately the dates between June 21,2005 and July 27,2005.

 * Post replies to the main talk page, copying and pasting the section to which you are replying, if necessary. To post a reply, you merely click on the appropriate 'Edit' tab, and then you type in your comments and click on 'Save page' -unless, of course, you want to preview it first, in which case you would click on 'Show preview'. (See How to archive a talk page.)

 * Please add new archivals to User_talk:GordonWattsDotCom/Archive02. Thank you.--GordonWattsDotCom 04:29, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Welcome to my page: You are here:

http://en.WikiQUOTE.org/wiki/User_talk:GordonWattsDotCom

Please, instead, go here, as I am not active in Wiki quotes:

http://en.WIKIPEDIA.org/wiki/User_talk:GordonWattsDotCom

 * Welcome back and thank you for your patience. As for the biblical quotations, I think KJV is more preferable due to copyright problems, but one or two lines might be okay as fair use. But if you have KJV, it would be kind of you to replace it, because some countries don't accept Fair use but put a different kind of restriction to the quotations from copyrighted sources. Thanks! --Aphaia 2 July 2005 16:06 (UTC)

Hello, would you like to please order your words chronologically, it is very helpful for other folks to follow the discussion. Thanks. --Aphaia 4 July 2005 09:11 (UTC)

Abortion debate
GordonWattsDotCom, thank you for joining the debate at Talk:Abortion. I hope you don't come to regret it, as I do my own participation. I'd like to point out a few things that may suggest why there appears to be so much hostility toward 214's suggestions (pardon me for repeating anything you already know):
 * We have only a handful of active sysops at Wikiquote, and nearly half of them are devoting more time to this single article than any 10 other of the 10,000 or so pages we must monitor. This is very bad for Wikiquote maintenance efforts, which are already seriously understaffed.
 * We sysops have been through several battles with anonymous, single-issue users who have obvious agendas. (An unnotable article on "Reirom" comes to mind.) Since anybody can edit a wiki, anybody can single-handedly hold a page hostage to their own interests.
 * Because of this, we, like many other wiki project sysops, have a tendency not to take unregistered (IP) users seriously if they have no edits outside their pet issue. Our goal is to create a compilation of thousands of topics through the work of thousands of editors. A one-issue user has, by definition, one goal. This user will always be able to out-edit serious Wiki participants, especially in a community as small as Wikiquote. Therefore, we have policies to block unrelenting agenda-pushers in order not to get bogged down on a tiny subset of articles or issues.
 * Wikis also value consensus. On controversial topics, wikians (in general) are often especially reluctant to reopen earlier debates without a compelling content reason (as opposed to a vociferous user). Again, this is even more true of a small project like Wikiquote.

That said, 214 has, as I've maintained from my first edit in this discussion, a number of valid concerns. I fear, though, that it is becoming harder to acknowledge those concerns as the debate gets longer and more heated. I'm fairly sure that every one of the sysops, at least, would prefer to end this debate as soon as possible. If someone were to call votes on specific issues, it's quite likely that anonymous, one-issue 214 would lose most if not all of these votes to a consensus of wiki editors who would vote for status quo simply to be able to move on. This would then allow sysops to block any further attempts to change the article along these lines.

Personally, I'd like to hold 214 to his earlier statement that he'd settle for having the pro-life/anti-abortion section (permanently) first, as this theoretically would allow us to move on, but (A) I doubt his sincerity because of his edits to place pro-life arguments in the pro-choice section, a subtle form of sabotaging the "enemy camp", and (B) I doubt I can get the other folks participating in the debate to agree to renaming the sections "anti-abortion" and "pro-choice", which fits Wikiquote style and still uses well-known and unambiguous terms. (I recommended this modification of a 214 suggestion earlier as a reasonable compromise, but got no positive response, not even an acknowledgement from 214.) I'm not sure anyone has much good faith anymore, and I don't believe we'll get any cool-down time. Sorry to be so negative; I'm just really tired after spending the past 6+ hours reviewing Abortion-related edit histories and talk pages. ☹ — Jeff Q (talk) 4 July 2005 15:52 (UTC)
 * I support Jeff's analysis. In my feeling most of Wikiquoters unwillingly involved into this issue tried to keep the atmosphere of the community as good as possible and enforced its policy. All of us tried to make a good compromise and let 214 edit as much as possible, and as far as I know no one hasn't been interested in the topic of the article in question itself. Shortly we are totally boring. Please don't try to make us involved into the again. We don't want for any further discussion. Before 214 has comes, no one had complainted the article structure. It follows fairly our policies and guideline like Guide to layout. And as for "rotation" I say it is one of the worst ideas on Wikiquote, and in my opinion anyone who tries to do such a rotation deserves the name of vandal. --Aphaia 4 July 2005 23:04 (UTC)
 * And some of your past actions like request for modification of the article to sysops, or coloured messages shows regretfully you understand our policies, guideline and habit incompletely. You seems to be on a good faith but for now an relatively annoying newcomer. On my part, if you make a sort of proposals, you are strongly recommended to read and understand our policies including still drafting ones (because it reflects yet unwritten rule). I let you know if your proposals beyond our criteria, no one will take it serious. Like your support for rotation. Thanks. --Aphaia 4 July 2005 23:10 (UTC)

Got you message; I too am fatigue

 * Thx 4 the feedback, Jeff; I'm overworked and underpaid here too, but I hope to address all the concerns. I am not so sure that 214 put in a quote in the wrong spot. Also, I suspect that this editor is a military person who doesn't want to get in trouble with superiors and edits anonymously for this reason. (214's IP is a Dept of Defense IP address, which leads me to believe this may be the case.) Well, I hope to see what I can do, but don't expect miracles: I don't get paid enough, and don't expect Jimbo to START me on a parole now, lol (not that I'd have time anyways).--GordonWattsDotCom 4 July 2005 22:16 (UTC)

I think you're right about who 214 is, but the rationale doesn't make sense. If he would have registered as a user, we wouldn't know he's operating from within DoD. He's much more likely to get into trouble with his superiors by remaining an anonymous user, as I'm sure they know who's using which IP address. In fact, his best tactic now would be to register and then continue his one-issue crusade, which is something I've been anticipating. I'm not sure what will happen then, because Wikiquote doesn't have any formal mediation process, as I believe you've found to be useful on Wikipedia concerning your own troubles with Terri Schiavo articles. As for being overworked and underpaid, I can assure you that the problem is much greater for the folks who have made thousands of edits over several years on a wide variety of articles and have stepped up to the typically thankless job of sysophood. It's why I've avoided such responsibility on WP. Oh, well. — Jeff Q (talk) 5 July 2005 00:05 (UTC)

Your analysis on Abortion debate
A quick note: I see you were still editing your analysis when I added a note below it. I hope I haven't broken your train of thought, but I wanted to get a supportive note in before anyone responded with what I worry may be knee-jerk reactions to any arguments that can be interpreted as 214 support. (P.S.: You might look at "synthasize" and "perhaps to extreme"; I'd detypoed your text in my original edit, but forgot to repeat it after I hit an edit conflict). — Jeff Q (talk) 5 July 2005 00:28 (UTC)

 * Thanks for doing the analysis and leaving me a note. I need a break from this contentious argument, so I probably won't look at it again until I've gotten a day or so breather for perspective. Meanwhile, might I suggest creating internal links (i.e., intra-Wikiquote links to section headings) using the standard MediaWiki internal link form, which is:
 *  optional alternative (label) text to display
 * rather than an external (http) link? I'm specifically referring to the helpful link to your analysis that you provided on my talk page, which is an external version of the same link in my paragraph above (with the label text "your analysis"). Internal links are recommended over external ones except when the former are necessary (as in citing page-history diffs or older revisions of an article). — Jeff Q (talk) 5 July 2005 07:22 (UTC)

Lost comment in formatting
Sorry, I failed to check it. And thank you for your refactoring. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 01:30 (UTC)

"Blocking should ..."
Perhaps I have a different view - it is not necessary and impossible to be nice to all editors even if they are spammers and vandals; your words sounds we did not do our best. I would like to make it clear you mentioned only to the general principle but you have a particular opinion in blocking placement. I add blocking was supported by some editors explicitely and there has been no dissent until now. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 03:46 (UTC)

Voting
Just one point. I am not pleased you invited 214 to vote; he or she can and is invited to other activities, but not to vote, unless as a registered user. Please read Voting. I am sure your invitation for voting to an anon isn't acceptable here on Wikiquote. And I am very sad to see you ignore our custom and policy so easily, though I said to you clearly we haven't accepted any anon vote. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 05:35 (UTC)

 * Two points on this matter. First, it's great that you were conscientious enough to individually invite many (all?) of the participants in the current Abortion debate to review your analysis, but the best place for this kind of invitation is Village pump. I recommend you post your invitation there so the entire community may review it, especially if we'll be calling for votes. Second, I believe Aphaia is a little ahead of policy on anon voting. She has always made it clear that she doesn't believe anons should be able to vote, based on her extensive experience on other wikis, and some other editors agree with her, but we don't yet have a formal policy. Wikipedia (whose policies we inherit in the absence of our own) doesn't either, although many 'pedians believe it does. (They do seem to have a strong tendency either to dismiss or weigh against anon voters.) I've accepted legal votes (i.e., signed and not doubled or forged) from anons when closing VfDs here, although I don't think any have been a deciding factor yet. But there's a good chance we will establish "no anon voting" as a policy. — Jeff Q (talk) 5 July 2005 07:45 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your clarification, so we find one exception of my former statement. And I would like you Gordon to notice Voting is still drafting, though it reflects our experiences on this wiki and until now no one has claimed we "should" accept anon votes. But like two 214 edits, allowing anon votes causes easily flauds and evitable doubtness of validity. At least you could understand it is not our general concensus anon votes is acceptable. It is controversial at best, and will cause meta-disputes. Even on the Board Election, its eligibility was opened before a month and written in the Bylaws since last year, we got anons accusations why they aren't eligible, though they are "active users". So, on my part, inviting anon without giving such background information is not appropriate and will be problematic. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 07:57 (UTC)

Thank you for your efforts
We might have different perspective in some parts, but I think everyone admits you did a big deal. Hoping it works well. Cheers, --Aphaia 5 July 2005 07:41 (UTC)

Please
put your message on the bottom of talk. It was a bit hard to find your additional message. I can't assure you I will read your message in your way. Thank you. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 23:43 (UTC)

From Talk:Abortion
Hi, Gordon! I hope you do not mind, I have removed the personal comments from Talk:Abortion and moved them here. The page above is already large enough without being bogged down with irrelevancies.

Oh, by the way, I asked Google about your IP address, and notice that you have been actively editing in Wikipedia too! One other thing: When (apparently?) you (accidentally?) referred to Aphaia in a private email to me as "she," I was sure that this was not due to any research on your part, but instead that you merely guessed, because the gender information you alleged on Aphaia was/is hard for me to confirm. (I am sure you would not have found it accidentally.) As a student in psychology (informally speaking), I deduced that people think from their own viewpoints, indicating that you were female. Aha! My suspicion was confirmed: I was right! (This phenomenon accounts for why White/Caucasian artists paint Jesus as White, with blond hair and blue eyes, even though He was Jewish, and most likely olive-skinned with dark hair and brown eyes.) You are quite intelligent, but you have been found out, 214! OK, we've had enough fun with "off topic" banter, so, unless your Dept of Defense bosses object, --GordonWattsDotCom 6 July 2005 11:05 (UTC)

 * Off topically again, I am Jewish and I have white skin and blue/green eyes. Not all Jews look the same, just FYI. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 6 July 2005 11:10 (UTC)

 * "Not all Jews look the same" I know that; There are even African (Ethiopian) Jews. I recognize your name as a variation of Moses, and I am certainly glad that there is ethnic diversity and hope that all people of all ethnic backgrounds feel welcome; of course, my comment above was merely to illustrate a point to 214 about how I found her out, not make broad generalizations. Oh, now I remembered what I was going to say: "This page is 128 kilobytes long," according to the edit comments when editing the whole page. Aphaia had suggested recently that it would be difficult for editors to read through the whole talk page here if they were to participate in the "214/Abortion" debate. I understand that situation fully, and I myself made it easy: I read the ENTIRE talk page, and systematically took each and every complaint by anybody and turned it into a "problem" question, and offered my own solution. So, all you have to do to see all the issues I've identified as possible problems is to read the last two sections (the "Analysis and proposed solutions / comments" section and this new "Two test pages" section). All that I hope and ask is that other users offer their proposed solutions below the comments Aphaia and I posted. (If you can identify any new problems, that's OK, but I think I've got it covered.) Then, hopefully we can debate and then vote on some of the problems that we think are most pressing. Although I am unabashedly pro-life, I do not think that you all will do anything rash, and I am not concerned or worried in the least about the results of any vote. I've already cast my vote -in the proposed solutions section (and I may participate in debate, if the situation deems). I know these new sections are long, but they are complete and helpful. I hope I have proved helpful to my colleagues.--GordonWattsDotCom 6 July 2005 11:22 (UTC)

Vote
As for your voting your attitude seems to me a bit haste. We don't need to vote everything, and if we have a vote, it should be well-designed, specially we have to reach the consensus if it is a time to vote, if there is no argument what we vote for, what is its theme, if the result will be compeling, how it will durate, and so on. Your reading of related documents on Wikipedia, our sister project will be appreciated. At least now, from my eyes there is only you who claim votes are necessary on Wikiquote (I don't know what you and 214 discussed in your mail exchange and think it is not relevant if we need to have a vote), so it is not a good idea to start a vote now.

As my own advocation, as for page protection there was necessity of urgent decision, so hasteness could be allowed, but for page reorganisation is not so in urgent. --Aphaia 7 July 2005 07:19 (UTC)

I understand your concern; You are in charge, and I am not; If you wish to vote on all my items -or none of them -or some of them, it is fine with me. Please understand that I placed a disclaimer caveat comment at the top of that section that this was only my idea and not an official action. If no one else wishes to vote on any of the items, then this lack of action will be a "vote to keep things the same." However, I wish to identify all the ideas. I am almost finished, and I promise that this section will probably be the last new section in a while, and almost finished; i will not make it much more lengthy. i promise. I know how busy we all are.--GordonWattsDotCom 7 July 2005 07:32 (UTC)
 * So how about this compromise: you will change your wording. Instead of vote, using "comment". Instead of Request for vote, "requests for comments", and getting rid of vote-alike style like beginning sentence with Support. Please let me know your idea. --Aphaia 7 July 2005 07:41 (UTC)

 * Sure, I will be glad to change this format to make the understanding to your pleasing.--GordonWattsDotCom 7 July 2005 07:43 (UTC)

Question
On WQ:VP you said:
 * Third (3rd) and lastly, 214 might be able to suggest ideas or quotes through alternative means, such as email or by other means about which I have not thought.

I can't understand what you mean. And if I understand correctly, you seemed to suggest she use someone in the community as meatpuppet. In my opinion if someone is blocked, she shouldn't join editing in any ways, including "email or by other means". I hope you meant something different.

Generally I don't think it is a good manner "please add this quote to somewhere instead of me". In my opinion it is impolite and unfriendly even written in polite words. Not only I but I know some other editors complained such "requests" by emails. I am sad you seem to encourage such ways, specially I wrote once I opposed your idea and said to you that you shouldn't have make such a request.

--Aphaia 8 July 2005 07:09 (UTC)

 * I think that good additions should be encouraged, no matter the source; A meatpuppet, as I understand it, is a request by one user to another user to vandalize; I do not support vandalism. Thus, my request for good quoatations is not bad. Someone, probably 214, but I don't know, complained about 214's treatment, but this person did not ask that any particular edit be done. I agree that 214's edits were massive, but "you should not throw out the baby with the bathwater." This is an English aka British proverb, which means that you shouldn't get rid of all of something simply because a small portion of it is bad. If you have disagreements with 214, I am sure that you can deal with that yourself sucessfully; however, my third point was not meant to encourage bad behavior, but only so seek good ideas from all sources. Your desire to pressure 214 to be more patient and polite is noble and appropriate, but it is unfair to the development of our pages here if you avoid things that remind you of her in a manner that would harm the inflow of ideas. I do not wish to become involved in your dispute, but if I find a good idea that was once used by someone else, it would be cause us to miss good ideas if we hate them simply becuase your enemies thought of it first. We must strive to avoid missing blessings, such as good additions to the quotations, for this would hurt all: Who thought of quote is not important; merit of quote itself is.--GordonWattsDotCom 8 July 2005 07:56 (UTC)

 * Clarification: I was simply asking for all people to give us good ideas; I was not encouraging vandalism of any sort.--GordonWattsDotCom 8 July 2005 07:57 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your reply and clarification. As for blocking and meat puppet, I think I understand your position. Currently Wikiquote has no stable policy about it, because it is our first case on edit wars, but in general it is not encouraged for banned users both temporally and permenently to ask other editors to edit something instead of them. They are banned from editing. That's all. After unblocking, either automatic or not, she will be able to edit. And I pointed out she made removal first time, and then might add some stuffs, it is not accetable from my view: the fact she did some legitimate edits in other revisions, it isn't a good reason to let her ignore the consensus at all. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 08:09 (UTC)

 * You're welcome; I saw your points and replied accordingly to your comments in WQ:VP. Thank you for being open and friendly towards 214, even if it is not all she wishes.--GordonWattsDotCom 8 July 2005 08:16 (UTC)

 * And this part

it is unfair to the development of our pages here if you avoid things that remind you of her in a manner that would harm the inflow of ideas. is unclear to me. I think I have a right to request you for clarification. You forget I don't have any interest in this issue without enforcement of policies and avoiding disruptions. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 08:12 (UTC)

 * I apologize for being unclear: I simply mean that I hope you would not be offended if a good idea happpened to come from a person with whom you have a disagreement; We must be open to all good ideas, from all sources, or else we cheat ourselves. Is that clearer? Thank you. --GordonWattsDotCom 8 July 2005 08:16 (UTC)

 * I recall that English is not your native language; I hope that my discussion is easy to understand. The only other language I speak is Spanish, but that only partly. I took one semester of Mandarian Chinese, but I am not able to speak or write at all; I barely passed that class.--GordonWattsDotCom 8 July 2005 08:19 (UTC)

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Hi, Gordon. would you like to link Wikiquote articles, not to Wikipedia ones, if they exist? I noticed you linked to John Paul II article on Wikipedia, not to John Paul II. Internal links are helpful for readers to browse the site and you are encouraged to add it to the person's article too. Thank you for your consideration. --Aphaia 10:09, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I see some Wikiquote links are "red" links -bad, but I understand your reasoning; I shall give "WikiQuote" priority over "WikiPEDIA." What if the wikiquote link is bad (new /empty page). Then, which do I use? Thx, --GordonWattsDotCom 10:18, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

In case you have difficulty, I mean to say "Yes," to your request, but still have a question above. Thanks.--GordonWattsDotCom 10:33, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * In general, for people for whom this would not be the only quote, red-link. People who follow a red link get a link to wikipedia (try it, look in the explanation). But then these people can just cut'n'paste the quote from the theme article, put a little introduction (perhaps copied from wp) and start a useful stub article. It is a more difficult decision when it comes to things which would be "themes", but don't exist, there the decision is on a case by case basis whether the theme for quotes would be interesting. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:48, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm... I do understand the concept; Thank you for reminding me, Moshe. I had really hoped to avoild thinking :-o ... After I put in the remainig few quotes I have found (about 2-3 more), then I think I can look at the links and make sure they're all right. Not to worry: I think that I can determine which of the two links (wikipedia vs wikiQUOTE) would be best for each case, as you say: Would it make a good theme? Thx once again. Take care,--GordonWattsDotCom 11:54, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Gordon, at the risk of being even more annoying than I've been recently, I really feel compelled to point out that your concerns about wiki editing suggest that wiki is not a forum suited to your desires. I'd like to think otherwise, because you've been of tremendous assistance on Abortion, but your frequent repetition of your regret over lack of remuneration, and your desire to have some kind of committee to approve of content, suggest that you haven't quite "got" the idea behind wiki (at least as it is represented in the WikiMedia group of projects).

One major underlying attitude of wiki editing is that it is completely voluntary, with no one receiving any benefits other than the good feeling of participating in a worthy project, and, not incidentally, the respect that (hopefully) comes from making a substantial amount of community-accepted contributions, reflected in article page histories and user contributions. Repetitive complaining about the work being unpaid can really get on the nerves of people who look for their income elsewhere and accept that this is a labor of love (or at least passion), not a vocation.

A second major principle is an almost obsessive need to avoid a senior committee to "approve" content or even structure. WikiWiki was developed as a direct challenge to the editor-board philosophy of publishing, and doesn't tolerate approval hierachies well. Sysops do not have the real authority to approve or disapprove content; this must come from the community. (See Wikipedia:Administrators for a better idea about what responsibilities and limitations a sysop has.) In practical terms, a wiki doesn't really become robust until it has enough active members for a large number to participate on any given issue. Wikiquote is far from an ideal example right now, because nearly anyone who makes substantial contributions to a variety of articles over even a few months is likely to find themselves nominated to bolster the skeleton staff here. This means, as MosheZadka pointed out before he became a sysop, that everyone who tends to participate in community decisions is (or quickly becomes) a sysop. Although Jimbo Wales reserves a right to step in to prevent catastrophic abuses of the WikiMedia system, he and other senior WM editors usually avoid day-to-day operations like the plague. I, for one, would love to ignore much of what goes on in articles I have little or no interest in (like "Abortion"). But we have far too few regular community participants, so some of us feel compelled to try to comment on everything that needs community participation. We're already far too much like a senior board here, which I've ruefully pointed out in many a WQ discussion, and if you would take some time to read a lot of discussions going on throughout Wikiquote, you'd find that we sysops often express doubts about imposing our own ideas on topics, for this very reason.

What I'm trying to say in my incredibly long-winded fashion is that there are many projects in the world that can reward a person for their work by financial compensation, and there are many where a select committee chooses what belongs and what doesn't. But when it works at its best, a WikiMedia project is not like this. The best way anyone can help to improve such a project is volunteer as much time and effort as they wish, without complaining about lack of pay, and encourage others to join in so we can build a large enough community so that folks can focus on what they have a passion for. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:01, 27 July 2005 (UTC)


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Hi. Please note that forging votes on VfD is considered rude. I would appreciate it if you removed the "vote" by non-existing user "Peternorvig" which you added. Also, if you have any links to the security manuals that McCoy wrote, please feel free to add them as comments to the discussion. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 04:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikiquote, the free compendium of quotations! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikiquote, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires you to provide no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including:
 * The use of a username of your choice
 * The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link
 * Your own user page
 * Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
 * The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
 * The ability to rename pages
 * The ability to upload images
 * The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
 * The eligibility to become an administrator
 * The right to be heard in formal votes and elections, and on pages like votes for deletion

Click here to create an account.--Aphaia 07:09, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

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Humphry Davy

Sir Humphry Davy (17 December, 1778 – 29 May, 1829), often incorrectly spelled Humphrey, was a Cornish chemist who discovered several chemical elements and studied the human body's response to electricity. He is generally credited with inventing the Miners' Safety Lamp, although George Stephenson also claimed the invention.
 * See also:
 * Historical View of the Progress of Chemistry
 * Humphry Davy, Poet and Philosopher (Thorpe)

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 * The moment after, I began to respire 20 quarts of unmingled nitrous oxide. A thrilling, extending from the chest to the extremities, was almost immediately produced. I felt a sense of tangible extension highly pleasurable in every limb; my visible impressions were dazzling, and apparently magnified, I heard distinctly every sound in the room and was perfectly aware of my situation. By degrees, as the pleasurable sensations increased, I last all connection with external things; trains of vivid visible images rapidly passed through my mind, and were connected with words in such a manner, as to produce perceptions perfectly novel. I existed in a world of newly connected and newly modified ideas. I theorised — I imagined that I made discoveries. When I was awakened from this semi-delirious trance by Dr. Kinglake, who took the bag from my mouth, indignation and pride were the first feelings produced by the sight of the persons about me. My emotions were enthusiastic and sublime; and for a minute I walked round the room, perfectly regardless of what was said to me. As I recovered my former state of mind, I felt an inclination to communicate the discoveries I had made during the experiment. I endeavoured to recall the ideas, they were feeble and indistinct; one collection of terms, however, presented itself: and with the most intense belief and prophetic manner, I exclaimed to Dr Kinglake, "Nothing exists but thoughts!—the universe is composed of impressions, ideas, pleasures and pains!"
 * Researches, Chemical and Philosophical: Chiefly Concerning Nitrous Oxide, Or Dephlogisticated Nitrous Air, and Its Respiration (1800) pp. 487-489, Also see The Collected Works of Sir Humphry Davy (1839) edited by John Davy, London: Smith, Elder and Co. Cornhill. Volume III, pp. 289-90.

 * A small piece of pure ... was placed upon an insulated disk of platina, connected with the negative side of the battery... and a platina wire communicating with the positive side, was brought into contact with the... surface of the alkali. ...The potash began to fuse at both its points of electrization. There was a violent effervescence at the upper surface; at the lower, or negative, surface, there was no liberation of elastic fluid; but small globules, having a high metallic lustre, and being precisely similar in visible characters to quicksilver, appeared, some of which burnt with explosion and bright flame, as soon as they were formed, and others remained, and were merely tarnished, and finally covered with a white film which formed on their surfaces.
 * (1808) The Bakerian Lecture, on some new Phenomena of chemical Changes produced by Electricity, particularly the Decomposition of the fixed Alkalis, and on the Exhibition of the new substances which constitute their bases; and on the general Nature of alkaline Bodies (Read Nov 9, 1807)  of London pp. 4-5.

Pray do not forget me, and believe me to be, very truly and affectionately, yours...
 * You write with great eloquence and truth on the effects of mountain scenery on the mind. Whatever exalts the imagination purifies the affections; but even our noblest and best thoughts have their archetypes in sensation. The eye is the most perfect of all the senses, and the one that most feeds the intellect. When surrounded by the grand forms of nature, we give to earth something of the indefinite character of heaven. Great objects excite great thoughts; the standard of our being rises; all our low and grovelling associations disappear; and our sympathies are more strongly awakened with regard to the moral, sublime, the excellent, the decorous, and the great in philosophy. We are more fitted to enjoy the blaze of light of Milton, to pass into the -forms of humanity with Shakespeare, and to move through the heavens with Newton. ...I am leading a truly philosophical life of activity, and the constant pursuit of an object, the elements of such a life. Such moments as I am now passing in the crowded city, prove to me how fitted our being is for independent and solitary thoughts; how much its strength depends upon its own efforts, and how little it owes to general society.
 * Letter to Mrs. Apreece [future Mrs. Davy] (Aug 26, 1811) in Sir Humphry Davy, Fragmentary Remains, Literary and Scientific, of Sir Humphry Davy, Bart., Late President of the Royal Society, Etc. With a Sketch of His Life and Selections from His Correspondence. (1858) ed., John Davy, pp. 145-146.

 * Every new discovery may be considered as a new species of manufacture, awakening moral industry and sagacity, and employing, as it were, new capital of mind.
 * Edinburgh Review, or Critical Journal: For June... October (1827) as quoted by Lee Johnson, Joseph Meany Graphene (2018)

 * Fortunately science, like that nature to which it belongs, is neither limited by time nor by space. It belongs to the world, and is of no country and of no age. The more we know, the more we feel our ignorance; the more we feel how much remains unknown; and in philosophy, the sentiment of the Macedonian hero can never apply, — there are always new worlds to conquer.
 * Discourse Delivered at the Royal Society (30 November 1825), published in Six Discourses delivered before the Royal Society, at their Anniversary Meetings, on the Award of the Royal and Copley Medals, preceded by an Address to the Society on the Progress and Prospects of Science (1827); also in The Edinburgh Review Or Critical Journal (October 1827)

 * That the forms of natural bodies may depend upon different arrangements of the same particles of matter has been a favourite hypothesis advanced in the earliest era of physical research, and often supported by the reasonings of the ablest philosophers. This sublime chemical speculation sanctioned by the authority of Hooke, Newton, and Boscovich, must not be confounded with the ideas advanced by the alchemists concerning the convertibility of the elements into each other. The possible transmutation of metals has generally been reasoned upon not as a philosophical research, but as an empirical process. Those who have asserted the actual production of the precious metals from other elements, or their decomposition, or who have defended the chimera of the philosopher's stone, have been either impostors, or men deluded by impostors. In this age of rational inquiry it will be useless to decry the practices of the adepts, or to caution the public against confounding the hypothetical views respecting the elements founded upon distinct analogies, with the dreams of alchemical visionaries, most of whom, as an author of the last century justly observed, professed an art without principles, the beginning of which was deceit, the progress delusion, and the end poverty.
 * The Collected Works of Sir Humphry Davy (1840) Vol. 4, pp. 364-365, ed., John Davy.

 * It is surely a pure delight to know, how and by what processes this earth is clothed with verdure and life, how the clouds, mists and rain are formed, what causes all the changes of this terrestrial system of things, and by what divine laws order is preserved amidst apparent confusion. It is a sublime occupation to investigate the cause of the tempest and the volcano, and to point out their use in the economy of things, — to bring the lightning from the clouds and make it subservient to our experiments, — to produce as it were a microcosm in the laboratory of art, and to measure and weigh those invisible atoms, which, by their motions and changes according to laws impressed upon them by the Divine Intelligence, constitute the universe of things. The true chemical philosopher sees good in all the diversified forms of the external world. Whilst he investigates the operations of infinite power guided by infinite wisdom, all low prejudices, all mean superstitions disappear from his mind. He sees man an atom amidst atoms fixed upon a point in space; and yet modifying the laws that are around him by understanding them; and gaining, as it were, a kind of dominion over time, and an empire in material space, and exerting on a scale infinitely small a power seeming a sort of shadow or reflection of a creative energy, and which entitles him to the distinction of being made in the image of God and animated by a spark of the divine mind. Whilst chemical pursuits exalt the understanding, they do not depress the imagination or weaken genuine feelings; whilst they give the mind habits of accuracy, by obliging it to attend to facts, they likewise extend its analogies; and, though conversant with the minute forms of things, they have for their ultimate end the great and magnificent objects of nature. They regard the formation of a crystal, the structure of a pebble, the nature of a clay or earth; and they apply to the causes of the diversity of our mountain chains, the appearances of the winds, thunder-storms, meteors, the earthquake, the volcano, and all those phenomena which offer the most striking images to the poet and the painter. They keep alive that inextinguishable thirst after knowledge, which is one of the greatest charactics of our nature; — for every discovery opens a new field for investigation of facts, shows us the imperfection of our theories. It has justly been said, that the greater the circle of light, the greater the boundary of darkness by which it is surrounded.
 * The Collected Works of Sir Humphry Davy (1840) Volume IX. Salmonia and Consolation in Travel, Consolation in Travel section, Dialogue the Fifth. The Chemical Philosopher. pp. 361-362, ed., John Davy, London: Smith, Elder and Co. Cornhill.

 * I envy no quality of the mind or intellect in others; not genius, power, wit, nor fancy; but, if I could choose what would be most delightful, and, I believe, most useful to me, I should prefer a firm religious belief to every other blessing.
 * Reported in Josiah Hotchkiss Gilbert, Dictionary of Burning Words of Brilliant Writers (1895), p. 241

 * Nothing is so fatal to the progress of the human mind as to suppose that our views of science are ultimate; that there are no mysteries in nature; that our triumphs are complete, and that there are no new worlds to conquer.
 * As quoted in Humphry Davy : Science & Power (1998) by David Knight, p. 87

Quotes about Davy

 * Davy held that if the battery is strong enough any compound may be decomposed, and that chemical affinity is merely a form of electric attraction. He vigorously put his theory into practice...
 * James Campbell Brown, A History of Chemistry from the Earliest Times (1920) p. 340.

 * Berthollet's conclusion that chlorine is oxymuriatic acid was universally accepted until Gay-Lussac and Thénard in 1809 endeavoured to decompose the gas and failed. They concluded that it contained water because it yielded water when passed over litharge. Their researches read to the Institute in 1809 led Davy to investigate muriatic acid (hydrochloric acid) gas, which in 1808 he had shown to be decomposed by potassium, with evolution of hydrogen. In 1810 he proved that chlorine is an element, and that muriatic acid gas is a compound of chlorine and hydrogen. He thus overturned the oxygen-acid theory, and demonstrated that muriates are compounds of metals with chlorine. He pointed to the fact that some acids, such as sulphuretted hydrogen, contain no oxygen, and argued that muriatic acid gas was one of these, chlorine in it taking the place of oxygen. ...The conclusions of Davy were at first doubted, but when iodine and bromine were also discovered, Gay-Lussac and his followers adopted Davy's views. The latter worked out fluorine, and proved that hydrofluoric acid (HF) contains no oxygen. Berzelius also opposed Davy until the discovery of iodine, but embraced the latter's opinion in 1820.
 * James Campbell Brown,  A History of Chemistry from the Earliest Times (1920) pp. 340-341.

 * Sir Humphry Davy Abominated gravy. He lived in the odium Of having discovered Sodium.
 * Edmund Clerihew Bentley, Biography for Beginners (1905)

 * I need only remind you of Davy's great researches: nitrous oxide; electric conduction and decomposition—resulting, on the one hand, in the separation of potassium and sodium, the decomposition of the earths following as a necessary consequence, and on the other in the electro-chemical theory; iodine and chlorine—resulting in the extension and confirmation of the word element, the discovery of the so-called hydrogen acids, and the important modification of the French theory of the constitution of acids; the investigation of gaseous explosion and of flame, and the invention of the safety lamp. These are the contributions to science which stand out more prominently in connection with Davy. But over and above all this is the peculiar manner of his discoveries. He was no patient plodder. He did not elaborate his work in minute detail. He dashed it off in broad masses; but just on that account there has never been anyone to follow up his investigations. Davy's mantle fell on no one, not even on Faraday.
 * John Ferguson, Recent Inquiries Into the Early History of Chemistry (1879)

Memoirs of the Life of Sir Humphry Davy, Bart. (1836)

 * , L.L.D., F.R.S., Foreign Associate of the Institute of France. By his Brother, John Davy, M.D., F.R.S., 2 vol. 8vo. London: 1836, The Edinburgh Review Or Critical Journal Vol. 128, pp. 115-116.

 * In September, 1807, our illustrious chemist applied his great principle to the analyses of potash, the vegetable alkali. Some had supposed it to consist of lime and hydrogen; others conjectured that it might contain nitrogen; and Mr Davy himself conceived that it might consist of phosphorus, or sulphur united to nitrogen. After failing with strong aqueous solutions, and also with dry potash, from its being a non-conductor, he employed fused potash, and in this case inflammable matter was separated by the voltaic influence. He then tried 'a piece of potash moistened, and in this instance inflammable matter was developed.' On the 6th of October he found that the  ' matter instantly burned when it touched water, and swam on its surface, reproducing potash.' In dry oxygen gas likewise it burnt into 'perfectly dry potash.' In like manner, Mr Davy succeeded in decomposing soda; and when he had thus proved that the two fixed alkalis were metallic oxides, he immediately supposed that the earths, which were so much more like to metallic oxides than the fixed alkalis, would be easily decomposed.

 * The delight which Mr Davy experienced when he first saw the minute globules of ' (the new metal) '''burst through the crust of potash, and take fire as they entered the atmosphere, was witnessed by his relative and assistant Mr . 'He could not contain his joy—he actually danced about the room in ecstatic delight, and some little time was required for him to compose himself sufficiently to continue the experiment.'

 * These grand discoveries, which some ascribed to the 'enormous batteries which were placed in his hands,' were the result of his intellectual powers, not of fortuitous circumstances. His voltaic battery was within the reach of many of the chemists of Europe; and consisted, in fact, of three different batteries united, one of 24 plates of copper and zinc, 12 inches square, another of 100 plates of 6 inches, and another of 150 plates of 4 inches.

 * While he was recording these splendid discoveries in his second Bakerian lecture, Mr Davy was thrown into a state of fever, and laboured under the deepest apprehension that he would die before he had finished his paper. This state of his mind was the prelude to a severe and long-protracted disease, which his friend and physician Dr Babington considered as the result of over-fatigue and excitement from his experimental labours and discoveries. During five weeks 'he struggled between life and death,' and it was not till the end of nine weeks that his convalescence commenced. The anxious enquiries of all ranks exhibited the personal regard which he commanded, and the public importance which was attached to his recovery.

This powerful artillery was now directed against the earths; but the task of these analyses was more difficult than he expected.
 * It was fortunate for science that Mr Davy survived this severe malady without any injury to his constitution, or any diminution of his mental powers. He resumed his enquiries with his wonted ardour, and by the liberality of the managers and principal members of the Royal Institution, he was furnished with the means of pursuing them with success. During his convalescence, a voltaic battery of 600 double plates, each four inches square, was constructed and placed at his disposal; and not long afterwards, when a more powerful apparatus was thought desirable, the munificence of a few individuals supplied him with another battery of no less than 2000 plates.

Life, Letters and Journals of George Ticknor (1876)

 * Vol. 1, Journal (June 13, 1815)

 * I breakfasted this morning with Sir Humphry Davy, of whom we have heard so much in America. He is now about thirty—three, but with all the freshness and bloom of five-and-twenty, and one of the handsomest men I have seen in England. He has a great deal of vivacity,—talks rapidly, though with great precision, and is so much interested in conversation, that his excitement amounts to nervous impatience, and keeps him in constant motion.

 * He has just returned from Italy, and delights to talk of it,—thinks it, next to England, the finest country in the world, and the society of Rome surpassed only by that of London, and says he should not die contented without going there again.

 * It seemed singular that his taste in this should be so acute, when his professional eminence is in a province so different and remote; but I was much more surprised when I found that the first chemist of his time was a professed angler; and that he thinks, if he were obliged to renounce fishing or philosophy, that he should find the struggle of his choice pretty severe.

 * After breakfast Sir Humphry took me to the, where he used to lecture before he married a woman of fortune and fashion, and where he still goes every day to perform chemical experiments for purposes of research. He showed me the library and model-room, his own laboratory and famous galvanic troughs, and at two o'clock took me to a lecture there, by Sir James Smith, on botany,—very good and very dull.
 * Define: Galvanic trough,, An Explanatory Dictionary of the Apparatus and Instruments Employed in the Various Operations of Philosophical and Experimental Chemistry (1824)

The Centenary of Davy's Discovery of the Metals of the Alkalis (1908)

 * by . A Discourse delivered before the, January 17, 1908. The Chemical News and Journal of Physical Science Vol. 97, No. 2527, pp. 210-211. (May 1, 1908)

 * The publication of Davy's discovery created an extrordinary sensation throughout the civilised world, a sensation not less profound, and certainly more general from its very nature, than that which attended his lecture of the previous year. But at the very moment of his triumph, it seemed that the noise of the universal acclaim with which it was received was not to reach him.
 * Ref: Humphry Davy, The Bakerian Lecture, on some new Phenomena of chemical Changes produced by Electricity, particularly the Decomposition of the fixed Alkalis, and on the Exhibition of the new substances which constitute their bases; and on the general Nature of alkaline Bodies (Read Nov 9, 1807)  of London (1808) Part. I, pp. 1-44.

 * Almost immediately after the delivery of his lecture he collapsed, struck down by an illness which nearly proved fatal, and for weeks his life hung on a thread. He had been in a low feverish condition for some time previously, and a great dread had fallen upon him that he should die before he had completed his discoveries. It was in this condition of body and mind that he had applied himself to the task of putting together an account of his results.

 * Four days after this was given to the world he took to his bed, and he remained there for nine weeks. Such a blow following hard on the heels of such a triumph aroused the liveliest sympathy. The doors of the Royal Institution were beset by anxious inquirers, and written reports of his condition at various periods of the day had to be posted in the hall.

 * The strength of the feeling may be gleaned, too, from the sentences with which the Rev. Dr. Dibdin, who... began the lecture introductory to the Session of 1808.
 * "...If it had pleased Providence to deprive the world of all further benefit from his original talents and intense application, there has certainly been sufficient already effected by him to entitle him to be classed among the brightest scientific luminaries of his country. ...These may justly be placed among the most brilliant and valuable discoveries which have ever been made in chemistry, for a great chasm in the chemical system has been filled up; a blaze of light has been diffused over that part which before was utterly dark; and new views have been opened, so numerous and interesting, that the more any man who is versed in chemistry reflects on them, the more he finds to admire and heighten his expectation of future important results. Mr. Davy's name, in consequence of these discoveries, will be always recorded in the annals of science amongst those of the most illustrious philosophers of his time. His country... will be proud of him, and it is no small honour to the that these great discoveries have been made within its walls—in that laboratory, and by those instruments... placed at the disposal and for the use of its most excellent professor of chemistry."

 * Have and  at all justified the hope that they would facilitate the means of procuring the comforts and conveniences of life? I have not the time... to attempt to follow the many changes in the metallurgy of the metals of the alkalis of the past century. Let me... show how the matter stands at the end of a hundred years.

 * The general properties and chemical activities of potassium and sodium are so very similar that as a matter of commercial production that metal which can be most economically obtained is necessarily the one most largely manufactured, and of the two that metal is sodium. To-day, sodium is made by thousands of tons, and by a process which in principle is identical with that by which it was first made by Davy, i.e., by the of fused caustic soda.

 * [A]fter a series of revolutions in its manufacture, sodium, having been produced from time to time on a manufacturing scale by a variety of metallurgical methods involving purely thermal processes of reduction and distillation, entirely dissociated from electricity, we should have now got back to the very principle of the process which first brought the metal to light. And that this has been industrially possible is entirely owing to another of Davy's discoveries - possibly indeed the greatest of them all—Michael Faraday.

 * As we all gratefully acknowledge, it is to the genius and labours of Faraday—Davy's successor in this place—that the astonishing development of the application of electrical energy which characterises this age has taken rise.

 * The modern method of production of sodium is based, therefore, as regards principles upon the conjoint labours of Davy and Faraday. ...These principles took their present form of application at the hands of... Hamilton Y. Castner... It is by Castner's process that all the sodium of to-day is manufactured.

 * The greater quantity of the sodium made in England is... converted into ... for use in the extraction of gold. As gold is... generally considered the principal material factor in procuring the comforts and conveniences of life, Davy's great discovery may be thus said to have secured the primary object which the projectors of the Royal Institution had in view. Other important uses of sodium are in the manufacture of peroxide for bleaching purposes, of artificial, and of a number of other synthetic dye stuffs and of drugs like antipyrin.

 * I am indebted to the directors of the Castner-Kellner Company... or affording me the opportunity, in connection with this lecture, of actually witnessing the modern process of manufacturing sodium as it is carried out at ... And in concluding may I be permitted to recall here the feelings to which that visit to Wallsend gave rise. ...Before me, stretching down to the river, was the factory where a score of workers, clad in helmets and gauntlets and swathed like so many Knights Templar, travel-stained and war-worn, their visages lit up by the yellow soda flames, and their ears half-deafened with the sound of exploding —a veritable inferno—were repeating on a Gargantuan scale the little experiment first made a century ago in the cellars of this building; turning out, day and night, hundredweights of the plastic metal in place of the little pin-heads which then burst upon the astonished and delighted gaze of Davy.

 * Behind me was the magnificent power-house... furnishing not only the electrical energy which transformed the soda into sodium, but diffusing this energy for a multitude of other purposes over an entire district—a noble temple to the genius and prescience of Faraday. Surely one might here say, if you desire to see the monuments of these men, look around!

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Walter Lippmann

Walter Lippmann (September 23, 1889 – December 14, 1974) was a United States writer, journalist, and political commentator. With a career spanning 60 years he was among the first to introduce the concept of Cold War, coining the term "stereotype" in the modern psychological meaning, as well as critiquing media and democracy in his newspaper column and several books, most notably his 1922 book Public Opinion.

Lippmann had a role in Woodrow Wilson's post-World War I board of inquiry, as its research director. His views regarding the role of journalism in a democracy were contrasted with the contemporaneous writings of John Dewey in what has been retrospectively named the Lippmann-Dewey debate. Lippmann won two Pulitzer Prizes, one for his syndicated newspaper column "Today and Tomorrow" and one for his 1961 interview of Nikita Khrushchev.

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 * If the estimate of the House Committee on Foreign Affairs is correct, then Russia has lost the cold war in western Europe.
 * The Miami Herald (December 18, 1947), p. 6A.

 * The central drama of our age is how the Western nations and the Asian peoples are to find a tolerable basis of co-existence.
 * "Asia and the West", New York Herald Tribune (European edition; September 15, 1965), p. 4

 * A free press is not a privilege but an organic necessity in a great society. ...Without criticism and reliable and intelligent reporting, the government cannot govern. For there is no adequate way in which it can keep itself informed about what the people of the country are thinking and doing and wanting.
 * International Press Institute Association, London, (27 May 1965)

A Preface to Politics (1913)

 * A Preface to Politics (New York: Michael Kennerley, 1913)

 * You cannot endow even the best machine with initiative; the jolliest steam-roller will not plant flowers.
 * Ch. I: "Routineer and Inventor", p. 30.

 * [A]ll achievement should be measured in human happiness.
 * Ch. IV: "The Golden Rule and After", p. 90

 * Ours is a problem in which deception has become organized and strong; where truth is poisoned at its source; one in which the skill of the shrewdest brains is devoted to misleading a bewildered people.
 * Ch. IV: "The Golden Rule and After", p. 105.

 * Art enlarges experience by admitting us to the inner life of others.
 * Ch. IV: "The Golden Rule and After", p. 110.

 * Between ourselves and our real natures we interpose that wax figure of idealizations and selections which we call our character.
 * Ch. VI: "Some Necessary Iconoclasm", p. 168.

 * [T]here is nothing disastrous in the temporary nature of our ideas. They are always that. But there may very easily be a train of evil in the self-deception which regards them as final. I think God will forgive us our skepticism sooner than our Inquisitions.
 * Ch. VII: "The Making of Creeds", p. 236

The Stakes of Diplomacy (1915)

 * The Stakes of Diplomacy (New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1915)

 * Democracy is a meaningless word unless it signifies that differences of opinion have been expressed, represented, and even satisfied in the decision.
 * Ch. IV: "The Line of Least Resistance", pp. 47–48

 * Unless our ideas are questioned, they become part of the furniture of eternity.
 * Ch. IV: "The Line of Least Resistance", p. 51

 * Where all think alike, no one thinks very much.
 * Ch. IV: "The Line of Least Resistance", p. 51

 * In places where men are used to differences they inevitably become tolerant.
 * Ch. IV: "The Line of Least Resistance", p. 52

Liberty and the News (1920)

 * Liberty and the News (New York: Harcourt, Brace and Howe, 1920)

 * [T]he present crisis of Western democracy is a crisis in journalism.
 * "Journalism and the Higher Law", p. 5

 * There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and shame the devil.
 * "Journalism and the Higher Law", p. 13

 * [T]he newspaper is in all its literalness the bible of democracy, the book out of which a people determines its conduct.
 * "What Modern Liberty Means", p. 47. Essay first published in The Atlantic (November 1919).

 * There can be no liberty for a community which lacks the information by which to detect lies.
 * "What Modern Liberty Means", p. 64

Public Opinion (1922)

 * Public Opinion (New York: Harcourt, Brace and Company, 1922)

 * Looking back we can see how indirectly we know the environment in which nevertheless we live. We can see that the news of it comes to us now fast, now slowly; but that whatever we believe to be a true picture, we treat as if it were the environment itself.
 * Ch. I: "The World Outside and the Pictures in Our Heads", p. 4

 * The facts we see depend on where we are placed, and the habits of our eyes.
 * Ch. VI: "Stereotypes", p. 80

 * [N]ews and truth are not the same thing and must be clearly distinguished. The function of news is to signalize an event, the function of truth is to bring to light the hidden facts, to set them into relation with each other, and make a picture of reality on which men can act. Only at those points, where social conditions take recognizable and measurable shape, do the body of truth and the body of news coincide.
 * Ch. XXIV: "News, Truth, and a Conclusion", p. 358
 * The clause in bold is sometimes quoted on its own in the form, "The news and the truth are not the same thing."

The Good Society (1937)

 * An Inquiry into the Principles of The Good Society (Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1937)

 * Many a time I have wanted to stop talking and find out what I really believed.
 * Introduction, p. x

 * [T]he totalitarian states, whether of the fascist or the communist persuasion, are more than superficially alike as dictatorships, in the suppression of dissent, and in operating planned and directed economies. They are profoundly alike.
 * Ch. V: "The Totalitarian Regimes", §7, p. 89

 * [T]here is only one purpose to which a whole society can be directed by a deliberate plan. That purpose is war, and there is no other.
 * Ch. V: "The Totalitarian Regimes", §7, p. 90

 * In a free society the state does not administer the affairs of men. It administers justice among men who conduct their own affairs.
 * Ch. XII: "The Political Principles of Liberalism", §6, p. 267

 * The self-evident truth which makes men invincible is that inalienably they are inviolate persons.
 * Ch. XVII: "On This Rock", §2, p. 375

A Preface to Morals (1929)

 * A Preface To Morals, (1982, originally published 1929 by Macmillan), New Brunswick: NJ: Transaction Publishers ISBN 0878559078 ISBN 9780878559077

 * [T]he modern man who has ceased to believe, without ceasing to be credulous, hangs, as it were, between heaven and earth, and is at rest nowhere.
 * Ch. I: "The Problem of Unbelief", §2, p. 9.

 * It does not matter whether the right to govern is hereditary or obtained with the consent of the governed. A State is absolute in the sense which I have in mind when it claims the right to a monopoly of all the force within the community, to make war, to make peace, to conscript life, to tax, to establish and dis-establish property, to define crime, to punish disobedience, to control education, to supervise the family, to regulate personal habits, and to censor opinions. The modern State claims all of these powers, and, in the matter of theory, there is no real difference in the size of the claim between communists, fascists, and democrats.
 * Ch. V: "The Breakdown of Authority", §5, p. 80.

 * The man who says that the world is a machine has really advanced no further than to say that he is so well satisfied with the analogy that he is through with searching any further.
 * Ch. VI: "The Drama of Destiny", §5, p. 130.

 * Ideals are imaginative understanding of that which is desirable in that which is possible.
 * Ch. XII: "The Business of the Great Society", §9, p. 259

 * [W]hether or not birth control is eugenic, hygienic, and economic, it is the most revolutionary practice in the history of sexual morals.
 * Ch. XIV: "Love in the Great Society", §4, p. 291

 * [L]ove, in spite of the romantics, is not self-sustaining; it endures only when the lovers love many things together, and not merely each other.
 * Ch. XIV: "Love in the Great Society", §6, pp. 308–309

 * It requires wisdom to understand wisdom: the music is nothing if the audience is deaf.
 * Ch. XV: "The Moralist in an Unbelieving World", §2, p. 324.

Essays in The Public Philosophy (1955)

 * Essays in The Public Philosophy (New York: New American Library, 1956)

 * With exceptions so rare they are regarded as miracles of nature, successful democratic politicians are insecure and intimidated men. They advance politically only as they placate, appease, bribe, seduce, bamboozle, or otherwise manage to manipulate the demanding and threatening elements in their constituencies. The decisive consideration is not whether the proposition is good but whether it is popular—not whether it will work well and prove itself but whether the active talking constituents like it immediately. Politicians rationalize this servitude by saying that in a democracy public men are the servants of the people.
 * p. 27

 * A large plural society cannot be governed without recognizing that, transcending its plural interests, there is a rational order with a superior common law.
 * pp. 106–107

 * The principles of the good society call for a concern with an order of being--which cannot be proved existentially to the sense organs--where it matters supremely that the human person is inviolable, that reason shall regulate the will, that truth shall prevail over error.
 * p. 127

title: Walter Lippmann


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Demi Moore

Demi Moore (born Demetria Guynes on November 11, 1962, in Roswell, New Mexico) is an American actress, filmmaker, former songwriter, and model.

Quotes

 * Truly, my first love.
 * Of Emilio Estevez; Vanity Fair, Volume 54 (1991), p. 150
 * Often misquoted as "Emilio Estevez was definitely my first love"

 * You could either be trapped by what was going on around you, or you could find a way out. I think that everything, even if it is scary or good, comes into our life to help elevate and expand us as human beings.
 * Of her difficult childhood; Chrissy Iley, The Observer, Sunday 7 October 2007

 * I’m intensely private, and I’ve openly shown annoyance at the paparazzi. That’s served in the past to create an image of me where I’m always frowning or looking angry.
 * Interview, Glamour Magazine, Aug 2011

Demi Moore Cover Interview - Demi Moore on Fame and Family - Harper's BAZAAR August 3, 2010

 * I like to connect to people in the virtual world, exchanging thoughts and ideas, when in the physical world we might never have the opportunity to cross paths.

 * Models, even male models — how small they've gotten! It looks great for the clothes, but it's not what you want in real life. Why do we have to keep looking at ourselves and measuring?

 * I knew it had the potential to be something special right away. It was like meeting somebody that I've just known where you just recognize one another. It was so disproportionate, the level of emotion we were experiencing to the time we had spent together.
 * On first meeting Ashton Kutcher

title: Demi Moore


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Salma Hayek

Salma Hayek Jiménez (born 2 September 1966) is a Mexican-American actress, born in Coatzacoalcos, Veracruz, Mexico.

Quotes

 * Before you do anything, think. If you do something to try and impress someone, to be loved, accepted or even to get someone's attention, stop and think. So many people are busy trying to create an image, they die in the process. Sleeping with the wrong person is one thing, but not using a condom because you want to please someone, or because you're in a romantic bubble, is another. … I wish we weren't so busy trying to impress people.
 * As quoted in "Salma Hayek's Condom Campaign" at femalefirst.co.uk

 * It's very easy to feel someone's pain when you love them.
 * "Conversation with Salma Hayek" (2002)

 * The biggest thing [Frida] brought into my life was this peacefulness. I still get passionate about things, but my passion is not so scattered and it's not needy. It's a lot more powerful because it comes with this groundedness and peacefulness. That it's about the process, not about the results.
 * "Conversation with Salma Hayek" (2002)

O interview (2003)

 * Interview with Oprah Winfrey in O magazine ("Passion" : September 2003)

 * I came here and realized how truly limited my English was, and it was very scary. I soon realized it wasn't going to be hard to learn — it was going to be nearly impossible. My accent was horrible. In Mexico, nobody says, "You speak English with a good accent." You either speak English or you don't: As long as you can communicate, no one cares. But the word accent became such a big word in my life. And they thought I was crazy in Mexico when I said, "I'm going to Hollywood." Nobody thought I could make it.

 * I also was afraid I was a very bad actress, because I'd become famous very fast and was making money for people. When you're making money, they're never going to tell you whether you're good or bad. They don't care. I knew that if I had any talent, this would kill it. I never wanted to be a famous bad actress!

 * I wanted to have a voice, and it was okay if I wasn't going to be so famous or so rich. And this the one thing I learned: How do you recognize what's your true dream and what is the dream that you are dreaming for other people to love you? … The difference is very easy to understand. If you enjoy the process, it's your dream. … If you are enduring the process, just desperate for the result, it's somebody else's dream.

 * I'd hear, "Because they paid the man, there's no money for the woman." How many times do you think I heard this? Over and over. Then I became a sex symbol. Now, how the hell did that happen? I don't exactly know the moment when it happened, but all of a sudden I'm a bombshell. The way I discovered this was I did Desperado. I had a very hard time with the love scene. I cried throughout the love scene. That's why you never see long pieces of the love scene — it's little pieces cut together. I'm crying most of the time so they have to take little pieces. It took eight hours instead of an hour. I nearly got fired. … Because I didn't want to be naked in front of a camera. The whole time, I'm thinking of my father and my brother... And then when the movie comes out, I read the first review. What do they say about me. "Salma Hayek is a bombshell." I had heard that when a movie does badly here, they say it bombs. So I'm crying. Thinking they're saying, "That terrible actress! It's a bomb! Salma Hayek is the worst part of the movie!" I called my friend and said, "The critics are destroying me!" She says, "No, they're saying you're very sexy." And then I look at all the reviews, and everybody said I was very sexy. So I'm very confused. I said, "I wonder if that's good or bad." I hear, "Yes, that's good." Then I do Fools Rush In, and I'm a pregnant woman. And they say I'm sexy again! I go, "But I'm pregnant!" I'm not even naked in this movie, and they still say I'm sexy. And then it became very depressing — I thought, I guess I'm reduced to that now. That's all I am in the perception of these people.

 * It's good to be sexy, but when that's all they can see — no.

 * The perception of you is one thing. You're this famous person, and now you're this famous person who's a bombshell. So all of a sudden, that's the only way I get jobs. So I have to become the part. And they're telling you this is the way to do it. One director actually said to me, "I want to hear you talk dumber and faster." … He thought it was funny for the girl to be dumb. I finally said, "That's it, man — I can't do this anymore." I'd go to meetings during the filming of a movie, and the directors would ask, "What do you think of the script?" I'd say, "It has a lot of problems." They were confused. That's not what they wanted from me. … So I was not very popular. At one point I said, "I don't want to do this — it's not my dream." And so I said, "I'm going to start a company. I am going to create projects for me. I'm going to create projects for other Latin women." Because I got to a point where I was whining all the time. I was miserable. I was desperate

 * I had an acting teacher who once told me that you could never really create from comfort. To do well as an actress, you have to push yourself to the edge. When you're comfortable, you're still on your ass. Sometimes we sit on our ass even with things we don't like. The whining, the crying, the becoming the victim, the this-town-doesn't-like-me-because-I'm-Mexican could've all made me say, "That's it — racism takes care of all my problems." … I think that's why it's harder for us to succeed, because we have a beautiful, comfortable crutch. It's right there, available.

 * I had been already trying to do Frida, but I would sit on my sorrows because it was so difficult. But now I was learning new things. And so I thought, this is what I want to do. I want to do one movie that if I die the next day, I know I left one thing in this world that I was very proud of, that other people can see, that meant something to me, that had my voice. Because God forbid I die tomorrow, I'm the bombshell for the rest of my existence. … Then I became very angry I said, I have become what they decided I am. When did I fall in this trap? Somebody decided I was this, and I became that. And I said, "I'm going to change it now. I'm going to define myself."

 * You have to be able to walk away from a relationship when it's time to walk away —and you have to teach your children this. It's the best way to love your children, because then they'll learn this from you — that you had the courage to walk away from a relationship when you were unhappy. You have to do what you have to do. And the children have to understand it. I think we have to teach this to our boys and our girls when they are young — 11, 12. They need to understand that you got in a situation when you were too young, when you didn't understand what you wanted, and because you listened to everyone else. Your children may not listen to you — so you also have to be brave enough to respect their dreams. … I think everybody knows this. We have an uncomfortable feeling for situations we are in, but we don't understand why we are uncomfortable. And then we want to know what would be the other option.

 * I've learned from others' lives... What works in a relationship of very public people is not making the relationship public — keeping it as personal as it can be. It's the only way it is real. I am suspicious of those who have to let the world know how much they love each other. It's a little sad when you have to brag about how much you love someone. That kind of declaration doesn't always reflect the moment of truth between two people who care deeply for each other. When that truth is there, you don't need others to know it. And when somebody truly loves you, you don't even need him or her to be affectionate. Affection is fantastic, but it doesn't necessarily mean there's love — and the public display of affection is often just a show.

 * When you open a door for others to have an opinion on your relationship, it can be dangerous. Find what you need, not what everyone else wants for you. Women have been taught that in order to have a place in the world, an identity, they must marry and have children. If that's the life you truly want, great. But for many women, marriage is only about needing the world to know that someone desires them enough to say, "Here's a contract to prove that I love you and will commit to you for the rest of my life." For these women, no contract equals no validation — and, thus, no reason for existing.

 * It's nice to have a relationship, but women have become addicted. You can have a relationship with God. With nature. With dogs. With yourself. And yes, you can also have a relationship with a man, but if it's going to be a shitty one, it's better to have a relationship with your flowers. I know so many lonely women who are married! You have to know the worth of your existence regardless of a man, regardless of an emotional love affair, even regardless of a career. Why should these things validate you as a human being?

 * Every day, I define myself. I know who I am today. I don't promise you anything for tomorrow — we can have an interview and that's completely different! And you know what else? I am grateful to the bombshell because if it hadn't gotten me where it had gotten me, I wouldn't be where I am today. But this bombshell thing; it's old now. It served me. And I got out of it in time to keep from serving it. I used to think, I can't wait until 35, when people think I'm too old to be a bombshell. Maybe I'll get the good parts. But it wouldn't have happened that way. … Just because your boobs are saggy doesn't mean you get great roles. You're disposable.

 * As important as it is for the producers to pay more attention to the female roles, it's more important for us to take control over this situation and define who we are. Because if they just give us the parts, it's their point of view of who we are. What's important is that we define who we are and don't wait for the men to give us the roles.

 * I'm very lucky I didn't have it easy, because I've learned so much from having to figure out everything on my own and create things for myself. Now I can teach what I've learned to the next generation. I'm not just going to be the pretty face that disappears. I've learnt how to produce, to direct, to write. I'm not disposable so easily anymore. When I am 60, I can keep directing. I have the potential to really, truly have a voice that makes a difference.

 * I wanted to win it for one specific reason — to send the Oscar to the Frida Kahlo House in Mexico, where Frida herself once lived. It's going to bring a tear to my eye now. I wanted every Mexican who walked into that museum to remember that what motivated me to make this movie, to dream this dream, had everything to do with where I came from — and I didn't stop dreaming until I finished the film. But the dream was the movie, not the Oscar.

 * At night I wake up and think, What color will make me feel better when I soak in the bathtub for an hour? I want everyone who's dreaming of a glamorous life to know that I'd trade a good bath any day for the heels, the hair, the makeup, the tight dresses, the photographs, the small talk.

 * Isn't it sad? In our world, women also don't support other women enough — how often do we really work together to make a difference? We are sometimes so vicious toward one another. We want to be independent women, but we really don't know who we are as women. It's about us taking control, because we tend to just blame. We complain about the world, but we are still not loving toward other women.

 * Because there was no industry or parts for Latin women when I came here, there was really no competitiveness. Jennifer Lopez and I were the first, and I think Jennifer was my partner at the beginning. I think it was important for others to see two of us, because maybe then we could be thought of as a social phenomenon. Because she doesn't have a foreign accent, Jennifer tried out for parts I couldn't get. There are now others with accents — Penelope Cruz, Antonio Banderas — but mind you, Antonio and Penelope are from Europe, not Mexico. It's only now that the taboo on Mexicans is lifting as Americans realize we're a little bit more than migrant workers. I hear some Latinos say, "Oh, no, no, no, the cliché that we are gang members, that's so bad — we have to show everyone that we're family people." Hello? That's another cliché! It's getting yourself out of one box to put yourself in another. The way to fight a cliché is not by creating another one. What breaks the cliché is the emergence of strong individuals. That's the way to say, "You don't really know us — so when you look at me, or when you look at my sister, just be completely open for whatever. You have no clue who we are!" Here people don't know what box to put me into. I'm not from the Bronx, I'm not from East L.A., so they don't know how to take me or what to call me!

 * Everyone said how tormented directors can be. I've never enjoyed something so much in my life!

 * Ignorance in certain places frightens me. The political situation of the world frightens me. Political anger around the globe frightens me. The lack of love in the world frightens me. Violence frightens me.

 * I want to direct a movie in Mexico, in Spanish. The story is about how when we're really young, our dreams are colorful and big and abstract and interesting and imaginative. As the realities of life hit, our dreams become so common. To dream big doesn't necessarily mean to imagine becoming the biggest movie star in the world. Dreaming big is about taking the simplest thing in life and enjoying it — and seeing it as the biggest thing that can possibly exist. … I work in an industry that is the first to kill this ability because everything is so celebrity oriented. I am part of a cancer. In my world, you have to be so beautiful, so skinny, so rich, so famous — and I don't believe you really have to be any of those things. You simply have to be who you are.

 * Yes, I'm beautiful … I am beautiful and famous — and yet the things I like about myself have nothing to do with that, because I don't use wealth and beauty to define myself. People think I'm more beautiful than I am because they see me on magazine covers — but go to nearly any town, and you'd find prettier women. And though I'm well known now, I might not be famous one day —but I'd still be happy. I do have money, but I could be richer. I just don't want to pay the price some are willing to pay to have more money. I live in a small house. I'm not the glamour girl who wears makeup every day. I live a wonderful life, and I lack for nothing. Maybe that does make it easier for me to say, "Be who you are" — but I always tell people they shouldn't be too impressed with wealth and fame. They shouldn't worship it. I am in this machine, but I haven't completely given my soul to it.

 * The whole society is obsessed.... I'm not complaining — I'm just saying, "Don't be too impressed with me. Don't try to dress like me or wear your hair like mine. Find your own style. Don't spend your savings trying to be someone else. You're not more important, smarter, or prettier because you wear a designer dress." I only wear the expensive clothes because I get them free and I'm too lazy to go out and look for my own. I, a rich girl from Mexico, came here with designer clothes. And one day when I was starving in an apartment in Los Angeles, I looked at my Chanel blouses and said, "If only I could pay the rent with one of these." … In those days, the rag I used to dry my dishes was more useful. Now many who start in this business come to me for advice and ask, "How do I get started?" And I have to say, "I honestly have no idea." I think it's a bunch of accidents that happen to you and somehow you survive them and take advantage of them and something magical happens — and you have an agent.

 * I'm going to tell you something: There's an element to that passion that I always leave out and that I have recently learned to understand, and it has helped me a lot. … I was okay if it didn't happen. … I didn't realize this before. As long as I knew I did my very, very best, I was okay. I was so okay that when I made the transition from Mexico to Los Angeles, I said to myself I have something now. Is it what I want? No. I was making money, I was an actress, and I was famous. It looked like it's what I wanted, but it was not. And I was wise enough to recognize it. It's what others would think that I'd want, and sometimes that makes you feel it's good enough... To be able to brag a lot on life — that's everybody's dream... But is it your dream? And it wasn't my dream. And so I said that I'm going to leave it. This means I go there, and maybe it doesn't happen. And I am trading this, which looks like it's great, for this nothing that could be anything. … And then I was excited about being brave about it and saying, "What I left didn't grab me by the balls."

Quotes about Hayek

 * Salma Hayek and I come from two very different worlds: She was born privileged in a small town in Mexico; I was raised poor in rural Mississippi. On the day we meet in a hilltop garden at the J. Paul Getty Museum … I'm as surprised as anyone that our connection is so instant. Who would've thought we would have so much in common? I've interviewed hundreds of people over the years, and never has a conversation resonated so strongly with me. Salma is one of the most passionate and unforgettable young women I've ever met. You need only a few moments in Salma's presence to discover she's a woman set on defining herself — try to contain her in a box, and she'll lift off the lid, rise up, and just soar away every single time. … Her candor, her honesty, her boldness, her fire — it all made me want to be more truthful with myself. Her passion for life is positively infectious. Talk about going for it — this woman has got the "it" big time!
 * Oprah Winfrey in O magazine (September 2003)

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Alicia Silverstone

Alicia Silverstone (born October 4, 1976) is an American actress, producer, author, and activist.

Quotes

 * I really wanted to go on Broadway but I was like - do I want to leave my dogs, my house and my friends for nine months? But then I thought, "Wait a second. If this wasn't being offered to me and I heard there was an audition I'd be desperate to have the job." When you're offered things, it makes it so much easier to be indecisive. And it's silly because you can pass on some really amazing things.
 * Interview with Barbara Ellen: The Observer, Sunday 29 February 2004

 * When I was little, every birthday was big — you just couldn't wait to get older. But a lot of great things happened around 30. From 28 to now has been a time of incredible change and growth, deepening and ripening, good stuff. It's been hard too, because when you're going through that stuff you have to go down into the mud. They've been really interesting years.
 * Alicia Silverstone Interview on Her Age & Health - Redbook, Oct 2009

 * When I went vegetarian at age eleven, it was a remarkably easy transition. A boy at my school was attempting to kill creatures in the pond. When I tried to stop him, he said, “You eat animals,” like that meant I had no right to try and save something that could end up on my plate later. The hypocrisy of my actions became crystal clear in that moment. I decided, no more meat. … When I first started working for two organizations supporting anti-factory farming, vegan outreach and humane education, my choice to go vegan became that much clearer. I realized veganism is the only diet that can change the world. … You can expect a healthier body, and the feeling of pride that goes hand-in-hand with living according to your values. That’s something that many people aspire to, but few people achieve.
 * "How to Transition from Vegetarianism to Veganism", in The Kind Life (9 April 2013)

title: Alicia Silverstone