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User talk:Jordan~enwikiquote

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User talk:Aadityalanke~enwikiquote

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User talk:Louis~enwikiquote

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User talk:Pharaoh Hound

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Banana daiquiri.
Nice to see another Doctor Who fan on q:, they're so hard to come by. :) Will {{sup|{talk)}} 00:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Crime Busters~enwikiquote

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User talk:Extra-introvert

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User talk:203.39.81.20

An editor using this IP address recently posted a personal message to FAQ, which has since been reverted. Please do not use Wikiquote pages for social networking. Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Splinter Cell Chaos Theory

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The result was: delete.. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
I have blanked what looks like the copyright violation of a video game. - InvisibleSun 07:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 07:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ UDScott 14:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unless editors follow the instructions to craft a more modest, more pithy selection of quotes. Again, we really need to craft some guidelines on games. One serious complication of this for games is that, unlike books, films, or TV shows, there is no easy way to determine the size of the entire work by which we might set a rough goal (like less than 5%) to avoid copyvio. (Gaming enthusiasts vouching for information won't work — we need reliable information on a question like this.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 12:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Jeff Q. Cbrown1023 18:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.--Jusjih 11:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Einar Iliyev

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The result was: delete.. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Einar Iliyev
Not notable. I couldn't find anything on this person, not even one Google hit, despite him supposedly "a famous writer and thinker on the history of human evolution." ~ UDScott 13:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless evidence of notability is provided. ~ UDScott 13:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 16:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per UDScott, plus I want sourced quotes. Interesting name: Scandanavian given and Russian surname. Maybe from Finland? Anyway, quotes aren't especially grammatical, half aren't original, and none are sourced. Also, I don't think we've ever found notability evidence for subjects whose intros include the words "famous" and "thinker" in the same sentence. This seems to be a favorite self-description for overly exuberant high school and college students. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - That "Einar Iliyev" is a writer and thinker is probable. That he is famous is in most likelihood a self-delusion. WIKISUPERFIXER 13:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Most likely self-promotion, after reading this edit on Wikipedia. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 16:50, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Cbrown1023 18:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.--Jusjih 11:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Tazz (second nomination)

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The result was: delete.. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Tazz
Pro wrestler article with the usual problems of loads of unsourced, unoriginal quotes. I gave this page a week, but there has been no substantial work done since its creation. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Note: un-noticed by anyone in this debate, the article had been recreated after a previous VfD debate closed as a delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, concur with nom. ~ UDScott 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 16:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Goodnight Irene!" "Here we go!" again. "Pump the brakes!" on this junk. "No doubt, no doubt", we're going to wind up deleting nearly all of these things. I'm still waiting for one single editor to source one single official catchphrase for one single wrestler. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 12:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Perhaps we should give a prize to the first pro-wrestler article that is reliably sourced and informative. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 16:59, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Cbrown1023 19:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Dead Rising

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The result was: delete.. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Dead Rising
Video game article with only a few quotes, none of them particularly original or memorable. No significant improvement since its creation a week ago. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 13:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, per nom. ~ UDScott 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 16:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. While certainly not a compelling page, it doesn't look that much worse than other game pages we've admitted. The quotes are arranged by character, and are not vacuuous (nothing like "Yes" "No" etc). Compare with Breath of Fire and Bioforge. I think it could use some wikilinking in the intro, and a major spoiler warning on the ending text section. --Ubiquity 12:21, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete unless quotes sourced somehow, in which case keep. I've reformatted the article to prepare it for some attempt at sourcing (i.e., identifying where these quotes occur in the game). After deleting so many of these things, I want to find a way to keep this seemingly salvageable article. (Even if we do keep it, the only quote I find minimally useful thus far is the end-game quote.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 12:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Cbrown1023 19:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/MiniMCR

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The result was: delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

MiniMCR
While the band on which this is based may be notable, I have a hard time equating notability to a fan's webcomic. ~ UDScott 13:56, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: delete (6 deletes; no dissent). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete. ~ UDScott 13:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. —LrdChaos (talk) 16:38, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete.  Cbrown1023  talk  20:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of notability. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 22:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 19:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. I added a WP link, but no such article exists. If we get some independent reliable sources that suggest this is something more than fancruft, I may reconsider. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Template:Interwiki doc page pattern, Template:CAT, Template:Template doc page viewed directly

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The result was: delete all. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:Interwiki doc page pattern, Template:CAT, Template:Template doc page viewed directly
These are a few new templates created by User:Fabartus, of Template:WikiPtmp and 36 others fame. As before, they're unused, the documentation is unclear, and they have lots of references to nonexistent templates. They don't seem to serve any useful purpose, and User:Fabartus has yet to offer a sufficiently clear explanation as to what these templates do (the closest they've come is this).

 * Vote closed. Result: delete all (7 deletes; 1 implicit (but vociferous!) keep). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:17, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete all. —LrdChaos (talk) 16:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all. ~ UDScott 16:31, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all.  Cbrown1023  talk  20:41, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all Even if it is better to keep them somewhere, it wouldn't be on each local project but some centralizing place like meta. Aphaia 10:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete all. Once again, Fabartus (aka FrankB) is just slapping templates onto the project without spending the time and effort to make clear why we even should have them, making only vague claims about interwiki "communication". He can't even be bothered to summarize what he's doing, instead referring people to w:Wikipedia:WikiProject template sharing, a WikiProject of which he is currently the only member. The project itself points to a template deletion discussion to explain what it is (and doesn't even do this correctly; the complete link is w:Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 January 15). He feels that explaining his work, documenting it properly, and making it properly functional is merely "getting all the eye's dotted and tees crossed". He has yet to demonstrate why any of this stuff is useful, let alone necessary (especially when some of it is duplicating more robust and well-documented methods). He seems to know enough to do some technical work, but unaware (and unwilling to learn) how to integrate it into both the existing template environment and the communities he expects to use it. (In fact, if it hasn't already been coined, I'd coin the term "WikiProject disease" for this kind of naive eagerness to build ineffective and often malfunctioning or useless support constructs for wiki work. Something like what we went through with "Wikiquote Esperanza", only with a technically savvy editor.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment Agreed with JeffQ. I propose hereby to put a block on this account due to lack of accountability and hence incapacity of collaboration with other editors, unless he is moved with our discussion on the above and annoyance. I think already we tried to persuade to listen to others. --Aphaia 18:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm uncomfortable with blocking an editor for willful foolishness, just as I was with our Esperanza promoter, unless they are noticeably disrupting Wikiquote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:21, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, in my humble opinion creation of over 40 useless templates and thus deletion targets is enough be called "disruptive". --Aphaia 11:40, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 19:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete because I'm a member of the tribe. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 23:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Add Votes_for_deletion up here too, you're picking apart a system of interconnected parts.

Hmmmm, the 'local tribe's' out in force: "willful foolishness", "Famous" (meaning infamous), "this kind of naive eagerness to build ineffective and often malfunctioning or useless support constructs" (Thanks, I haven't been called Naive in 30+ years of programming!) 'some centralized place like meta' (Didn't you LOOK? TRY THIS!)

Sigh! Do you really need that kind of prejudicial judmental unfounded rhetoric? Let's talk facts. Fact: I'm an experienced wiki-editor with several years experience and circa 10,000 edits with a lot of experience integrating between the Commons, and wikipedia in both templates and categories. I participate regularly in those talk forums, XfD pages, and on the wikipedia Help desk, when not editing articles--my preference as a wiki-activity, and frankly, developing this has been much 'too much like work', but I perceived a need, and have sold the idea elsewhere, and am implementing that now that I can invest the time again. I've been writing software successfully since '76, one way and another, and am an engineer used to dealing with complexity. So dismiss the charges that this is either ill-conceived or unworkable -- it's coming along fine -- or would be without THIS disruption to the schedule.

'However badly Pass-1 test version stunk the place up last fall, this is not then, and this is a very different implementation. There was of course ZERO reason to pick on it THEN, or now. It could have sat around quiescent, as it did elsewhere. It is/was harming nothing, and neither was that pass. The naivity and childishness is in expecting something obviously complex (last fall) or containing complexity (now, but more elegant) to be explained before all the factors have been identified, or worked out. Some people do, some people talk, some people talk about doing and never do. I think it's obvious where I don't belong there!

But some people either have an over-developed sense of neatness, or too much time on their hands, it would appear. I would have been around to tidy up, or as I have [ here today, for example], or to continue the mission. It is sad to me, LrdChaos, that you and Jeffq apparently have no faith in other people. Perhaps some of you reading this are a homebody, and academic or cheat on the boss's time to put in wiki-hours; for some of us, it takes us away from actually feeding the family. I am such a one. I stayed up all of last night and suffered most of the day for it today to further this, as I did last week, and likely will again. Sorry my schedule and yours aren't in synch better, but I got here as soon as was practicable after the heads up from Aphaia, but was starting my real world work at the time.

Secondly, these things you are contemplating discarding are in wide use, and mostly are things I'm merely importing after adding user friendly 'How to' documentation-- as something undocumented and esoteric goes unused. (Some are subst'd--bringing the pieces for uniformity is part of the solution.) Some are here because I used them extensively for self-documenting the system--which displays badly unless they come along (I, I0, I2, I5, and Indent, all discussed Indent family usage. Some like Template:R_from_other_capitalisation are pieces that are just generally good ideas for tracking redirects by kind and type lifted from wikipedia practices (again a compatibility thing--I could ignore redirect categorization, but then the pages would be different, or need parserfunction logic making simple tasks more complex. Bad enough to have to do that for some categorization matters. Was too complicated in a template redirect), that I've integrated into the minimally intrusive skeleton of categories that comes with Interwikitmp-grp and the interconnectivity.

Suffice to say for now, that the concept is both undisruptive, unobtrusive, and minimal. THIS discussion is disruptive comparatively. Much of the cumbersome pass one prototype trial version of last summer is gone or depreciated (All the suffixed interwikitmp-grpNN versions soon will be vaporware— you are all reacting to like this is identical and it is in concept and intent, but not in implementation, nor page counts. Fortunately the page count--the necessary self-linking pages-- is way down from the prototype you all discussed last fall without my input and looks to shrink more once the next generation/evolutionary step is ready. Interwiktmp-grp now references just over a handful of other templates, not several dozen just to cite one comparative measure even a non-template person should understand. At least three more of those will disconnect when the debugging and tracking stuff is further reduced to just a functional template without excess baggage.

Set aside that none of it has begun to deliver the goodies yet... you are attacking the system for better communications and better productivity on the sister here you call home, AND potentially handicapping yourself and your productivity if you happen to make the odd contribution to another project, as I do on occasion.

Never mind that I was a consistent 'steady' force pushing for the capability to do just such quick reference notations on templates, and my arguments carried the day last summer (this was but one outcome of that, as are the two 'Doc page' templates heading the section title on irc chats and various talks, so that all these 'enigmatic mysteries' usually only poorly documented in techno-speak on yet another page to visit (Talk pages) are gradually becoming retrofitted with comprehensible everyday usage with examples so the casual lay-editor can indeed just look, compare with something similar, and get on with work... but time savings to the thousands of people over any span of years aren't of interest HERE, nor apparently is a system to make sure any of us would find the same category (ties, starting points) system on another wiki with the means of seeing whether the same tools are at least present or not, and the empowering time-saving that might give whilst trying to get something done.

'SCUSE ME? Is there some reason you want to handicap people that work with you, newcomers who might mount the frustrating learning curves, and make a contribution you will value, or are you so mired in 'Today's problems' that you won't look at the big picture for a moment? Anything we do on the wiki's to make it easier for newcomers to integrate their knowledge with yours should help all of us have a better product AND less work over short, mid, and long term periods. Ditto for those going to a sister for a brief contribution or lookup. (In that regard, for God's sake, tie your template categories together into a interlinked system. If you don't want sub-cats like most sisters, use cat see also as we've been doing on wikipedia and the commons, but provide some kind of navigation one to another! (But don't delete it then! )

But don't look at factors that, or why something is being put forth. Just nominate it for deletion without asking a specific question about the item in question. It's easier to pillory someone without facts -- I wouldn't want to trouble your primative tribal reactions with salient thoughts... OKAY, so I would and will. I wasn't available last fall, and this is premature NOW, a couple of weeks down the road, and these matters would be clear.

Consider first most Meta tools are also Wikipedia tools (usually first--the wikipedia dynamic is larger and has more demanding and varied tasking needs) and vice versa, as the people who wrote them are usually the same... and some of 'them' have been occasionally assisting me and indeed encouraging me with this concept. Or did you think it survived from inception in August without being seen, used, or championed? This concept will be at Meta itself, once it's proved.

But it is complicated in many ways as I have also had to assay the 'local tribe' in their insular city-states, step carefully around such local taboos like a prior use of a name used differently (CAT/w:template:cat/CAT/cat is a good example, as are 'c', 'w' and 's' and 'tl', for that fact, if you test such off your local patch), or their own current category names and then have to arrange for a plan that takes such into account on all the English sisters. So yes, it's got some complexity, but there's more complexity in tribal dealings than in the concept itself. The resultant channel of cross tagging links will allow less focus on vetted templates, and more work elsewhere, and better work here at 'HOME' if some of the tools and utility stuff finds a use here by some one or a few. THEY DO NOT PRESAGE a bombardment of imported templates, by the way, in conjunction with the documentation upgrades, the idea is to suggest on your local community talk that such a list of templates might find use here, advertising as it were. [W:Wikipedia:Wikiproject template sharing]] will be using w:template:template list (which has interwiki capability) to give a list of suggestions. Importing such are local decisions outside the tagging system. But with Interwikitmp-grp in place on common templates, a newcomer or template tyro will never again have to struggle to find whether there is a tool to do a task he/she has, or where to go to find out if the local 'HOME' is well equipped at all. All they'll need do is follow the link to a sister project and poke around in the categories there... efficient. So is having the same name for equivalent function, though the template manages several kinds of exceptions.

But it's supposed to be 'done' when being conceived, per the nom, and I'm supposed to write about it and spend my time talking about it before knowing all the parameters, and apparently, demonstrate it's utility without the basic system of templates in place. Sorry, can't happen if you're going to disable the matter before it's introduced, and attack it before the skeleton is in place. I'd thought I'd reached that point this morning--only now someone disconnected the very functionality just when we could converse on such like they are some computer virus instead of property of Wikimedia Foundation in widespread use elsewhere. That's very over the top-- good dirty trick though, as your fellow editors here have nothing to study. (Pssst-- go look at the Wikipedia or commons or Meta versions in that order, I'm a bit behind updating the two latter ones, so some stuff is still outdated.)

I'm glad something which is admittedly complex, you all expect it to be a walking, talking adult able to stand on own when being birthed. You must live in a wonderfully different life than a typical reality. Different people have different schedules, different manners of thinking, different manners of problem solving, and so do what they can when they can, as they can--but I cannot demonstrate it's efficaciousness and desirable features if you are going to disable some of the very templates I would commend to you as means of doing some of your tasks better and more efficiently. Hell, you don't as a society, even have your collection of templates in your template categories tied together in any normal categorical hierarchical system, but have them scattered willy nilly as separate disparate lists without even bothering to link those as sub-categories into a tree structure!

But you have time to hastily nominate something I contacted you and Jeffq about a few short days ago because I'm not part of your tribe? Piffle on your broadmindedness or sense of fair play, LrdChaos. Haven't seen a return post to my talk or by email either, so I suggest you try doing something constructive rather than being prematurely disruptive. If you don't understand something, I do answer questions. My email is on. You don't have the excuse that you don't know that this is my Home wiki--that's well established, and common courtesy would be to at least drop a note on my talk here as Aphaia did this morning my time. That such a page is useful is evidenced here--as the directions say, it is subst'd as used. As is This (Substd in practice, most of the time)] You pick on CAT... a name case work around for naming collisions, it lets the same documentation and links be present on any sister project (except wikitionary with there anti-capitalization phobia), not just this one.Obviously has no utility. Do you want to count that?

Secondly, I came not as a thief in the night, but contacted the nom and Jeffq and I was apologetic that I was unavailable last fall. Apparently my ATTEMPT TO ADD THE FEW TOOLS WHICH CREATE THE SYSTEM are somehow a burning urgent matter that needs disposed of before the whole is put into place. This attitude has a place on a wiki? When, save when vandalism is involved, is speed sans discourse ever needed on a wiki -- they're perennial works in progress, unlike putting together interwikitmp-grp, which is a one shot deal, albeit a current WIP as well.

IF the rest of you will look at the templates in the now disabled indent family usage, you will find for example that they do formatting features like double-spacing, variable indenting, maintaining indentation on a wiki-markup margin which wiki-markup cannot do on it's own. That you have this discussion without as basic an analysis tool as boggles the mind. You find tl and tlx of use, might there not be other better tools for different needs? ,, are precisely some of those, yet someone apparently never even looked at just why those are present, or how it might be of use here.

I cannot be expected to be familiar with all the local politics on all the sister's and still have time to get enough of this system in place to begin explaining it. Writing here against this rush to judgment , is keeping me directly from additional evolution of w:Wikipedia:WikiProject template sharing, which alas, is just in gestation, certainly hasn't been publicized, nor have I asked for comment on it yet from normal collaborators. I daresay it's been seen by a few patrolling new pages, but with around 10,000 edits or so I'm fairly well known in Wikipedia and the Commons, in category and template and policy talks, so the people there know they only need give me a few days. Might you not do the same? Incidentally, it's shaping up better in another browser though, so you may want to see the birth or visit in a few days... I don't make a lot of little saves--just good one's.

It just so happens that I am not omniscent and all knowing, so cannot predict some of the more vexing name collisions, and indeed embedded a large excess of potential names and test links in the current go simply so such matters can be settled and put to bed. When I am not defending knee jerk reactions and NIMBY syndromes, I actually have time to tweak that--if I'm not otherwise engaged, and I have no intention of dragging any of this out now that I've taken the effort to push it forward again. Neither will I take my time to again import these basic functional parts, of what will become a sanctioned program if you all insist on pushing this discussion here and now before it's a sensible time, you can rebuild it yourself later if needed. As of saving this, I'll turn off the default connection to this site on the master template, so no one will even know you're here, or inadvertently share a tool or update with you.

That you have these discussions without even as basic a meta-wiki tool such as lts(W:template:lts), nor have respect for your own seven day deadline so that the much nicer cleaner (and less cumbersome) current version of interwikitmp-grp can be viewed by your own society membership boggles the mind, and is baffling. Brass balls, six feet in diameter. Best regards to all, someone better reign in the dictator here. He/she are hiding decision factors by turning such stuff off. // Fra nkB 07:24, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you for making my point, Fabartus. You can spend hours composing invective, but you don't see the need to spend that time doing basic interoperability testing and documentation (let alone the comprehensive regression testing that any experienced software engineer should know is essential) before you foist your "helpful" template infrastructure on a project. You also make repeated claims of your material being "widely used", but every time I check your work on Wikipedia, it has little use or participation from anyone else. (Word to the not-at-all-willfully-foolish: if your work isn't accepted on en:Wikipedia, you have zero chance selling it here. en:Wikipedians are far more prepared to performed un-natural selection on evolving competing templates.)

 * As an apparent amateur cultural anthropologist, you'll have to pardon the "local tribe" for being unimpressed by your efforts. But your work is very obviously not designed to help newcomers, who can't — and shouldn't — be expected to learn the use of all these templates when the whole philosophy of wikis is to make editing simple! (Anyone who uses an indentation template to separate sentences in his talk-page posts clearly has an inadequate grasp of the concept of "simple".)

 * I called you "naive" not about your programming skills, although your tendency to work on projects XP-style rather than as an mature software engineer belies your focus on technical sophistication rather than usability. (No offense intended toward Extreme Programmers; in general, the methodology is quite valuable. XPers also know how to establish their environments before deploying them.) I meant "naive" in your interaction with the culture and communities that you expect to adopt your oh-so-clever mechanisms.

 * The famously eccentric mathematician Paul Erdős had great difficulty interacting with ordinary mortals, but no one questioned his amazing accomplishments. Complete your project on Wikipedia and demonstrate widespread use (not by claims but with proper, ordinary, working links to examples of its uses there), and we may reconsider. Understand, however, that most of Wikiquote work is done by anonymous editors and infrequent registered users, who will not sit still for any discussion of basic template use, let alone stuff like "separate your sentences with instead of ordinary spaces". You may find that we eventually respect you as an Erdős without being able to make use of your work. Such is the nature of life in a local tribe.

 * And one other note: anyone who attempts to do interproject work damn well better understand each community. Each project must deal with its own community, and the people participating in these communities vary incredibly between projects. A sure way to get your work rejected is to loftily assert that you "cannot be expected to be familiar with all the local politics", as if it's somehow beneath you or not worth your time. (This is yet another example of your failure to understand that a wiki project is not just about its content, but just as much about the people who create that content.) You might want to talk a bit more to Aphaia about this, as she is our Ambassador to Wikimedia and is familiar with the problems of working with many different projects. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

On this para: '': Thank you for making my point, Fabartus. You can spend hours composing invective, but you don't see the need to spend that time doing basic interoperability testing and documentation (let alone the comprehensive regression testing that any experienced software engineer should know is essential) before you foist your "helpful" template infrastructure on a project. You also make repeated claims of your material being "widely used", but every time I check your work on Wikipedia, it has little use or participation from anyone else. (Word to the not-at-all-willfully-foolish: if your work isn't accepted on en:Wikipedia, you have zero chance selling it here. en:Wikipedians are far more prepared to performed un-natural selection on evolving competing templates.)''
 * Xpost:

 * Bullshit Much goes on by email.
 * That the interoperability testing is being interfered with by your overly quick responses is Exactly the point.
 * One cannot write documentation, nor discuss fine points until the parameters of the problem, and the likely scope of needs are explored.
 * How does regression testing come into this? How do utility templates like indent, lts, la, cat, etc. challenge your infrastructure? Or threaten your project. This are blind prejudicial nominations, sans needs.
 * I addressed the participation sufficiently, I think, there ARE a few things to pin down and juggle, in case you hadn't noticed. Try porting a few yourself. // Fra nkB 17:10, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * And
 * Thank you for your advice, but I'm quite familiar with the tribal nature of the different communities. HAS YOURS Adequately considered that their demands for premature discussions is more than a bit juvenile? Take your seven day limit which someone here is violating... very narrow mindset, AND DEMANDING and assumes every working man has the same involvement and ample time to respond. Do you have a courtesy notification by email in place? My point is simple. You are reacting to something which is being widely used... prematurely. I don't give a hill of beans whether some newcomer knows how to incorporate the main template, as that's the perview of the documentation your interference is delaying... though the newest version (W:template:interwikitmp-grp not yet distributed)  overcomes that usage need for the newcomer, I suspect. It certainly will in conjunction with W:template:Interwikitmp-grp/doc when the next pass of updates is completed. But why you are all picking on small parts is beyond me.

If you test the Indent behavior (BTW- This is a pretty good example of how it helps clarity in talks) in talks, by the way, it doesn't break the HTML by introducing an end div, so wiki-markup wrapping continues without getting disturbed. That is, it allows text to be processed as if characterized within a HTML blockquote-- a work around for less useful aspects of wikimarkup language.

THAT Helps a great deal in clear presentations by numbering or alpha prefixed paragraphing presentations, when one is italicising, when one doesn't need wide space indentation for a sub-point, etcetera. Take a look at W:template talk:indent head to head comparisons and the blocked 'Indent family usage'.

Sorry that I don't see the need to have an collaborator jarring my elbow whilst this was being developed, but I have had a fair bit of help from others, though admittedly most of that is by email. If you take a look at the 'Links here' on the various sisters, you'll see a fair smattering of talk discussions, so it's hardly been 'secretive or unknown', nor limited solely to wikipedia talk. Patrick over at Meta has been assisting here and there as well as David Kernow on the commons-- some just have sense to stay out of the way long enough to let things develop. There have been a few others contribute as well. So your argument and preconception is valid insofar as I am the conciever, and current chief programmer. That's about to end, or I wouldn't have stubbed up W:Wikipedia:WikiProject template sharing. JeffQ says we should talk Alphaia, since this will be going to meta and the communications committee there soon as well, that seems a good idea. // Fra nkB 17:45, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Ah. Perhaps I am misunderstanding the scope of the problem. Allow me to make this clear:
 * en:Wikiquote is not a sandbox.
 * Please do not use Wikiquote to experiment with interacting templates that don't meet the pressing needs of Wikiquote itself, as defined by the Wikiquote community. Even we sysops tread very carefully with "innovations" like implementing Wikipedia's three-step article deletion process, because our community is not as robust as Wikipedia. Do you experiments there, document them when they're finished, and then present us with a fait accompli. Further argument here is pointless and actively undermines any chance you have of selling your work down the road. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

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What can I say? I'm an ABBA fan who also loves Doctor Who, Sailor Moon, Rocky Horror and many other things.

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it's the trouble of interesting people to have a busy life Vercingetorice

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Pan's Labyrinth

Pan's Labyrinth (Spanish title: El Laberinto del Fauno, literally The Labyrinth of the Faun) is a 2006 Spanish-language film, set in Francoist Spain in 1944, in which the bookish young stepdaughter of a sadistic army officer escapes into an eerie but captivating fantasy world.
 * Written and directed by Guillermo del Toro.

Innocence Has A Power Evil Cannot Imagine.

The Faun

 * The say that a long, long time ago, in an underground kingdom, where there are no lies or pain, there lived a Princess who dreamt of the human world. She dreamt of the blue sky, the soft breeze and the brilliant sun. One day, eluding her keepers, the Princess escaped. Once outside, the sunlight blinded her and erased every trace of the past from her memory. The princess forgot who she was, and where she came from. Her body suffered cold, sickness and pain. After years passed, she died. However, her father, the King, always knew that the Princess' soul would return, perhaps in another body, in another place, at another time. And he would wait for her, until he drew his last breath, until the world stopped turning...
 * And it is said that the Princess returned to her father's kingdom. That she reigned there with justice and a kind heart for many centuries. That she was loved by her people. And that she left behind small traces of her time on Earth, visible only to those who know where to look.

Ofelia

 * [to Mercedes] Have you seen my mother? Isn't she beautiful?
 * [to the giant toad] Hello. I am Princess Moanna, and I am not afraid of you.
 * [to the giant toad] Aren’t you ashamed? Living down here, eating all the pill bugs and getting fat while the tree dies?

Capitán Vidal

 * I choose to be here because I want my son to be born in a new, clean Spain.
 * We catch one and he turns out to be a stutterer. Fuck! We'll be here all night.
 * Forward [to battle]... No fear! This is the only deserving way to die.

Others

 * Carmen: The captain has been so good to us... Please, Ofelia, call him father. It's just a word, Ofelia, just a word.
 * Garcés: [surrounded by men, Mercedes holds the paring knife against her throat] If anyone is going to kill you, I'd rather it be me.
 * Mercedes: [to Vidal] I'm not some old man! Or a wounded prisoner! Motherfucker... Don't you dare touch the girl. You won't be the first pig I've gutted!

Dialogue

 * Ofelia: [to the Dragonfly] Hello. Are you a fairy?

 * Ofelia: My name is Ofelia. Who are you?
 * Faun: Me? I've had so many names... Old names that only the wind and the trees can pronounce. I am the mountain, the forest and the earth. I am... I am a faun. Your most humble servant, Your Highness.

 * Mayor: Have I told you that I was acquainted with your father, Captain?
 * Capitán Vidal: No. I had no idea.
 * Mayor: In Morocco. I knew him only briefly, but he left a great impression.
 * Capitán Vidal: An excellent soldier.
 * Mayor: The men in his battalion said that when General Vidal died on the battlefield, he smashed his watch on a rock so that his son would know the exact hour and minute of his death. So he would know how a brave man dies.
 * Capitán Vidal: Nonsense. He didn't own a watch.

 * Dr. Ferreiro: Let's see how that leg is doing, Frenchie.
 * Old Man: How do you think it's doing? It's fucked up.

 * Dr. Ferreiro: One more thing, sir. What makes you so sure it's a boy?
 * Capitán Vidal: Don't fuck with me.

 * Capitán Vidal: You could have obeyed me!
 * Dr. Ferreiro: But captain, to obey- just like that- for the sake of obeying... without questioning... that's something only people like you can do Captain.

 * Mercedes: I'm a coward.
 * Pedro: You're not a coward.
 * Mercedes: Yes, I am. A coward - for living next to that son of a bitch, doing his laundry, making his bed, feeding him... What if the doctor's right and we can't win?
 * Pedro: At least we'll make things harder for that bastard.

 * Capitán Vidal: Tell my son what time his father died. Tell him that I-
 * Mercedes: [interrupting] No. He won't even know your name.
 * [Pedro shoots a shocked Vidal in the face, killing him]

Taglines

 * Innocence Has A Power Evil Cannot Imagine.
 * What happens when make-believe believes it's real?
 * Dare to enter.
 * In darkness, there can be light. In misery, there can be beauty. In death, there can be life.

Cast

 * Ivana Baquero - Ofelia
 * Sergi López - Capitán Vidal
 * Maribel Verdú - Mercedes
 * Doug Jones - Pan/Pale Man
 * Ariadna Gil - Carmen Vidal
 * Álex Angulo - Dr. Ferreiro
 * Manolo Solo - Garcés
 * César Vea - Serrano
 * Roger Casamajor - Pedro

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Edwin Markham

Charles Edwin Anson Markham (23 April 1852 – 7 March 1940) was an American poet, most famous for his poem, The Man With the Hoe.

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 * There is a destiny that makes us brothers: None goes his way alone: All that we send into the lives of others Comes back onto our own. I care not what his temples or his creeds, One thing holds firm and fast That into his fateful heap of days and deeds The soul of man is cast.
 * "A Creed To Mr. David Lubin", stanza 1, LINCOLN & Other Poems (1901), page 25.

 * I fear the vermin that shall undermine Senate and citadel and school and shrine.
 * The Vermin in the Dark, stanza 5, lines 1 and 2, in The Speaker (1911), volume 6, number 3, page 249.

 * We have committed the Golden Rule to memory; let us now commit it to life.

The Man With the Hoe (1898)

 * Inspired by the painting L'homme à la houe by Jean-François Millet, this poem was first presented as a public poetry reading at a New Year's Eve party in 1898 and was published soon afterwards. (Full text online, with the painting)

 * Bowed by the weight of centuries he leans Upon his hoe and gazes on the ground, The emptiness of ages in his face, And on his back the burden of the world. Who made him dead to rapture and despair, A thing that grieves not and that never hopes. Stolid and stunned, a brother to the ox? Who loosened and let down this brutal jaw? Whose was the hand that slanted back this brow? Whose breath blew out the light within this brain?

 * Is this the Thing the Lord God made and gave To have dominion over sea and land; To trace the stars and search the heavens for power; To feel the passion of Eternity?

 * Down all the stretches of Hell to its last gulf There is no shape more terrible than this — More tongued with censure of the world's blind greed — More filled with signs and portents for the soul — More fraught with menace to the universe.

 * Through this dread shape the suffering ages look; Time's tragedy is in the aching stoop; Through this dread shape humanity betrayed, Plundered, profaned, and disinherited, Cries protest to the Powers that made the world.  A protest that is also a prophecy.

 * O masters, lords and rulers in all lands, Is this the handiwork you give to God, This monstrous thing distorted and soul-quenched?

 * O masters, lords and rulers in all lands How will the Future reckon with this Man? How answer his brute question in that hour When whirlwinds of rebellion shake all shores? How will it be with kingdoms and with kings — With those who shaped him to the thing he is — When this dumb Terror shall rise to judge the world. After the silence of the centuries?

Brotherhood

 * The crest and crowning of all good, Life’s final star, is Brotherhood; For it will bring again to Earth Her long-lost Poesy and Mirth; Will send new light on every face, A kingly power upon the race. And till it come, we men are slaves, And travel downward to the dust of graves.

 * Come, clear the way, then, clear the way: Blind creeds and kings have had their day. Break the dead branches from the path; Our hope is in the aftermath — Our hope is in heroic men, Star-led to build the world again. To this Event the ages ran: Make way for Brotherhood — make way for Man.

The Shoes of Happiness, and Other Poems (1913)

 * He drew a circle that shut me out — Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But Love and I had the wit to win: We drew a circle that took him in.
 * "Outwitted".

The Crowning Hour

 * It was ages ago in life's first wonder I found you, Virgilia, wild sea-heart; And 'twas ages ago that we went asunder, Ages and worlds apart. Your luminous face and your hair's dark glory, I knew them of old by an ocean-stream, In a far, first world now turned to story, Now faded back to dream.
 * I

 * We are caught in the coil of a God's romances — We come from old worlds and we go afar: I have missed you again in the Earth's wild chances — Now to another star! Perhaps we are led and our loves are fated, And our steps are counted one by one; Perhaps we shall meet and our souls be mated, After the burnt-out sun.  For over the world a dim hope hovers, The hope at the heart of all our songs — That the banded stars are in league with lovers, And fight against their wrongs.
 * II

 * If this is a dream, then perhaps our dreaming Can touch life's height to a finer fire: Who knows but the heavens and all their seeming Were made by the heart's desire? One thing shines clear in the heart's sweet reason, One lightning over the chasm runs — That to turn from love is the world's one treason That darkens all the suns.
 * II

 * So I go to the long adventure, lifting My face to the far, mysterious goals, To the last assize, to the final sifting Of gods and stars and souls.
 * II

 * Our ways go wide and I know not whither, But my song will search through the worlds for you, Till the Seven Seas waste and the Seven Stars wither, And the dream of the heart comes true. I am out to the roads and the long, long questing, On dark tides driven, on great winds blown: I pass the runs of the world, unresting, I sail to the unknown.

 * There are more lives yet, there are more worlds waiting, For the way climbs up to the eldest sun, Where the white ones go to their mystic mating, And the Holy Will is done.
 * III

 * I will find you there where our low life heightens, Where the door of the Wonder again unbars, Where the old love lures and the old fire whitens, In the Stars behind the stars.
 * III

 * It will all come back — the wasted splendor, The heart's lost youth like a breaking flower, The dauntless dare, and the wistful, tender Touch of the April hour.
 * III

 * As we go star-stilled in the mystic garden, All the prose of this life run there to rhyme, How eagerly then will the poor heart pardon All of these hurts of Time! Ah, yes, in that hour of our souls dream-driven, In that high, white hour, O my wild sea-bride, The tears and the years will be all forgiven, … And all be justified.
 * III

Quotes about Markham

 * His reputation has faded because of the somewhat dated nature of his verse; nevertheless, he remains a notable figure for his contributions to American poetry. His work stands as an example of what American critics and readers valued near the turn of the century. His poetry offers insight into an important phase in the development of American letters.
 * William R. Nash in "Edwin Markham's Life and Career — A Concise Overview", American National Biography (Oxford University Press, 1999).

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Pandurang Shastri Athavale

Pandurang Shastri Vaijnath Athavale (19 October 1920 – 25  October 2003), known as Dada (Gujarati: દાદા, Marathi: दादा), meaning elder brother in Marathi) was an Indian philosopher and social reformer who gave discourses upon the Hindu religious texts Bhagavad Gita and Upanishads.

Quotes

 * It is my experience that awareness of the nearness of God and reverence for that power create reverence for self, reverence for the other, reverence for nature and reverence for all of creation.
 * Devotion as an expression of gratitude to God can turn into a social force and bring about transformative changes in all aspects of human life and at all levels of society. - Acceptance speech while receiving the 1997 Templeton Prize for Progress in Religion, from HRH Prince Philip at a public ceremony held in Westminster Abbey, May 6, 1997.

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Party Monster

Party Monster is a 2003 drama/dark comedy that details the rise and fall of infamous New York party promoter Michael Alig.
 * Written and directed by Randy Barbato and Fenton Bailey.

Till Death Do They Party.taglines

Michael Alig

 * Typical James, tired old drug addict. Can't even stay awake for your own movie!
 * I wanted to create my own world. A world full of color where everyone could play. One big party that never ends.
 * You'll love me. I promise.
 * We'll put James in a cage and hang a sign over it that says, "Do not feed the drug child!"
 * The road of excess leads to the palace of... fabulousness!
 * Oh please, party in the truck!
 * I won't do crack without heroin!
 * But it's my birthday and I want a bloodfeast!
 * That's not a crack hole, that's a rat hole. Rats on crack attack!
 * You're just some lame-ass, Johnny-come-lately, fairy, faggot, copycat! You don't even know your skrink from your skrod! You stupid logger blogger!
 * Oh James, I'm getting away with murder and you're just jealous.
 * That's Skrink la do, to you.
 * ..Not that it's your movie. You think it's yours. But it's really mine. All mine.
 * Come to my party. You can be my boyfriend.

James St. James

 * Testing, testing, 1, 2, 3. Testosterone, testicular cancer, Tess of the D'urbervilles.
 * I don't do. I just am.
 * The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom. Blake, William. That's really all you need to know. That and "Don't dream it, be it!"
 * Michael was growing on me. Like a fungus.
 * The North Pole! I've made it across the frozen tundra. My faithful huskies perished in the blizzard way back. I had to eat them.
 * Darling, half the fun of eating meat is hacking it up.
 * I am not addicted to drugs, I'm addicted to glamor!
 * Mm, lightly toasted animal tranquilizer.
 * It doesn't matter what you look like! I mean if you have a hunchback, just throw a little glitter on it, honey, and go dancing.
 * It was better than a ten-inch dick and you know it!

Others

 * Elke: He was always making money. He just had a knack for it. My little candy man.
 * Christina: How do you like my UFO?
 * Police Officer: [trying to pick Christina up] Let's go, sweetheart. You're a big girl.

Dialogue

 * James: Michael, I hate you for making me say serious things so I will only say this once. You've gone too far with the drugs.
 * Michael: Have you looked in the mirror lately?

 * Michael: So. How's the novel coming?
 * James: I've done another page! But now I think I might have writer's block.
 * Michael: Two pages in five years?

 * Michael: So, notice anything different?
 * James: [looks around] The flies?
 * Michael: No, seriously James. Anything or anyone missing? Like a drug dealer who used to live here?
 * James: Well darling that could be anyone. Can I buy a vowel?

 * Michael: Hi. I'm Michael Alig.
 * James: Well I'll alert the media. Gotta dash!

 * Keoki: Are we going far?
 * Michael: All the way I hope.

 * James: I know what you need. A nice hot cup of hot chocolate.
 * Michael: Can you put some ecstasy in mine?

 * Michael: We're like two peas in a pod, you and I, James.
 * James: I pity the pod.
 * Michael: You're the Yoda to my Luke.
 * James: Excuse me. You're the Paula Abdul to my Janet Jackson.
 * Michael: That's good, right?

 * Michael: Our magazine's on the stands today. Can you believe it? Our own magazine!
 * James: I've already seen it, and there's a problem. A big problem. I've been cut off. [reads from magazine page] "James St. James heads up white slave ring, sells twelve year old boys on Avenue B. Exclusive by Michael Alig." Why, Michael? Why?
 * Michael: Oh come on Skrink, I think it's funny!
 * James: My father does not share your sense of humor!
 * Michael: I didn't know he was a Project X reader!
 * James: Yes you did, because you sent him a lifetime subscription!

 * Michael: Angel bailed me out.
 * James: Angel?
 * Michael: Well, actually, Angel bailed you out.
 * James: Me?
 * Michael: Yeah, I told the police I was you.
 * [James gawks in disbelief]
 * Michael: Oh James, it's just all in fun. And after I told them you had AIDS, they gave me my own room with a VCR and ice cream!
 * James: Michael, I don't even like you! I have never liked you!

 * Talk Show Host: Is it true, ma'am, that your son Michael turned you on to the pill ecstasy?
 * Elke: He said it was a headache pill.
 * Talk Show Host: What happened when you took it?
 * Elke: Well, my headache went away..

Taglines

 * good. evil. fun.
 * Money, Success, Fame, Glamour

Cast

 * Seth Green - James St. James
 * Macaulay Culkin - Michael Alig
 * Diana Scarwid - Elke
 * Chloë Sevigny - Gitsie
 * Marilyn Manson - Christina
 * Dylan McDermott - Peter Gatien
 * Mia Kirshner- Natasha
 * Wilmer Valderrama - Keoki
 * Daniel Franzese - The Rat/Dallas MC
 * Natasha Lyonne - Brooke
 * Elliot Kriss - Cabbie
 * Wilson Cruz - Angel

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User talk:72.68.141.34

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikiquote, as you did to English proverbs. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. —LrdChaos (talk) 02:24, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

First, it's not nonsense. These were deliberate edits to make a correction on a quote.

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title: User talk:Frankcpa


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User talk:Bookman~enwikiquote

Hi. Welcome to English Wikiquote. Enjoy!  Cbrown1023  talk  02:40, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Bookman. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Bookman~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:18, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:43, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:Bookman~enwikiquote


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User talk:76.183.93.162

Please stop adding nonsense to Wikiquote. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.  Cbrown1023  talk  02:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Siderits~enwikiquote

Hi. Welcome to English Wikiquote. Enjoy!  Cbrown1023  talk  03:06, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Siderits. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Siderits~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:34, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 05:57, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Glory (film)

Copyright notice
As part of the Copyright Cleanup Project, this article has been trimmed to a maximum of ten quotes for a 122-minute film. Additional quotations could be added so long as an equal number are deleted. See Limits on quotations for guidelines. - InvisibleSun 01:05, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:Glory (film)