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Talk:Shaft (1971 film)

if anyone has any information on the use of blaxplotation in both the new and old shaft could you please email it to Carmelcox@hotmail.co.uk thank you

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Talk:Sitting Bull

I have changed clergyman to shaman as clergy/clergyman is usually reserved for authorised members of a Christian church. See Wiktionary --Bodhirakshita 10:47, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

another quote from sitting bull was " how can you own the land that the people walk on?" Sitting Bull & Crazy Horse

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i took the liberty of wikilinking the lead section and using the term 'holy man' to refer to Sitting Bull (most sources on wikipedia cite this term, as do major biographies of Sitting Bull). i also added categories, some of which don't exist (but they ought to) to flesh out this, and i started adding sourced quotations. some of the quotations on the 'attributed' list are definitely sourceable, and i'm trying to track those down in the process of cleaning up Sitting Bull across a variety of projects. Poroubalous 04:03, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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 * I know Great Spirit is looking down upon me from above, and will hear what I say...

 * The earth has received the embrace of the sun and we shall see the results of that love.

 * He put in your heart certain wishes and plans; in my heart, he put other different desires.

 * In my early days, I was eager to learn and to do things, and therefore I learned quickly.

 * Each man is good in the sight of the Great Spirit.

 * It is not necessary for eagles to be crows.

 * Now that we are poor, we are free. No white man controls our footsteps. If we must die, we die defending our rights.

 * What white man can say I ever stole his land or a penny of his money? Yet they say that I am a thief.

 * What white woman, however lonely, was ever captive or insulted by me? Yet they say I am a bad Indian.

 * What white man has ever seen me drunk? Who has ever come to me hungry and left me unfed? Who has seen me beat my wives or abuse my children? What law have I broken?

 * Is it wrong for me to love my own? Is it wicked for me because my skin is red? Because I am Sioux? Because I was born where my father lived? Because I would die for my people and my country?

 * God made me an Indian.

 * When I was a boy, the Sioux owned the world. The sun rose and set on their land; they sent ten thousand men to battle. Where are the warriors today? Who slew them? Where are our lands? Who owns them?

 * You think I am a fool, but you are a greater fool than I am.

 * If the Great Spirit had desired me to be a white man, he would have made me so in the first place.

 * I was very sorry when I found out that your intentions were good and not what I supposed they were.

 * If a man loses anything and goes back and looks carefully for it, he will find it.

 * We did not give you our land; You stole it from us.

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How is "unsourced" different from "attributed?" If there is no primary source, I think it should be removed. Goodreads is not a reliable source. 74.194.168.98 13:38, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

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User talk:Stylese

good friends are like stars, you dont always see them but you know that they are there. 2006

life is full of choices but does not mean that they are split with a good and a bad choice. 2006

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Jimmy Carr

James Anthony Patrick Carr Jr (born 15 September 1972 in Isleworth, London) is an English comedian, author, actor and presenter of radio and television, known for his deadpan, satirical and often very dark humour.

2004–2005

 * All comedians are a bit attention-seeking and I'm no different. Anyone with the audacity to want to be listened to for an hour and a half must be.
 * Beverley Lyons and Lee-Ann Fullerton (28 February 2004) "The Razz: Jimmy's Brent on being funny", Daily Record.

 * To me, my approach is the most sensible. You're a comic. Therefore you want to get laughs. How do you get the most laughs in an hour? Tell short jokes. And don't say boom boom at the end. Just let the audience laugh then tell another joke. It's the shortest route to where you want to go.
 * Allan Brown (1 August 2004) "Benefits of being game for a laugh - Edinburgh Festival", The Sunday Times.

 * My writing process is editing. It's taking all the funny thoughts you've had over the last 12 months, and editing out everything that's shit. You're left with an hour and a quarter of funny stuff.
 * Alastair McKay (10 August 2004) "Obsessed by punchlines", The Scotsman, p. 4.

 * I think that comedians, more than any other type of celebrity, have to keep their humour and keep their feet on the ground. If they start taking themselves too seriously, they're heading for a fall.
 * Charles Hutchinson (19 November 2004) "Preview: Jimmy Carr, Grand Opera House, York November 20", North Yorkshire County Publications.

 * I love those people who do story-telling and who ramble on, but I don't do that, I tell jokes - the sort of jokes that anyone really could tell in the pub.
 * Nick Ahad (19 November 2004) "Comedian who delivers some nice lines", Yorkshire Post.

 * As soon as I did my first five minutes of stand-up I knew that I would rather be a failure at comedy than a success in marketing.
 * Will Hodgkinson (16 December 2004) "Comedy's overgrown schoolboy", The Irish Times.

 * I literally can't believe my luck. Torturing Americans should not only be easy, but a pleasure!
 * On hosting the American version of his game show, Distraction — reported in James Rampton (19 February 2005) "Comedy: Pick of the Week", The Independent.

 * I'm a stand-up. And no one on the circuit's terribly impressed if you're on TV. I suppose I've stolen my ethos from Jay Leno. You can do all the TV in the world, but that's a team game, and anyone can be dropped from the squad. And if you haven't gigged in a while, you're not firing, you're not match fit. So I try and do it whenever I can.
 * Ed Caesar (21 February 2005) "Think this is a laugh? You must be joking", The Independent.

 * TV's not the same buzz. If someone tells you three million people watched the show last week, that's good but, when you walk out in front of 1,000, you think, 'Oh my God, this had better be good'.
 * Paddy Hoey (15 July 2005) "Carr's a comic with universal appeal", Daily Post.

 * I did quite a lot of TV shows over the latter half of 2004 - all those 100 Greatest and 100 Worst and all that kind of stuff. So I was a little bit overexposed. But I think you need to do that once in your career, and that's how you become famous. You get overexposed once, and then people know your name and you can relax a bit.
 * Peter Ross (14 August 2005) "The Joker As the face of Channel 4 he's known for his sharp suits and sharper one-liners, but what has spurred Jimmy Carr on during his swift rise from anonymity to ubiquity?", Sunday Herald.

 * The great thing about being a comedian is that it kind of doesn't matter how you look. It's actually a disadvantage to be too good-looking. There's a Darwinian advantage to being funny. If you're a good-looking fella, you can't be bothered to make up jokes.
 * Simon Mills (14 November 2005) "Top Table", Daily Mail.

2006–2007

 * So they've laughed and then they've thought, should we have laughed at that? Well, too late now. You did. I imagine I get more than my fair share of that.
 * Patrick Barkham (9 September 2006) "Here's Jimmy!: Jimmy Carr as Jack Nicholson in The Shining", The Guardian.

 * Jokes spread around the world and embed themselves in our shared culture; the most resonant of them get lodged in the language in the same way as clichés or old wives' tales do.
 * Jimmy Carr and Lucy Greeves (21 September 2006) Only Joking: What's So Funny About Making People Laugh?, Gotham, ISBN 1592402356, p. 3.

 * But what's true about comedians is that we've all got a huge hole in our personality. In a room of 3,000 people, we're the one person facing in the opposite direction - yet we have this overwhelming desire to be liked.
 * Stephen Armstrong (3 December 2006) "He who laughs last... - Comedy", The Sunday Times, p. Culture 10.

 * I immediately adored performing. It really empowers you when everyone's laughing. It gives you an immense buzz. You just feel on top of the world.
 * Paddy Hoey (6 April 2007) "Football's loss was definitely stand-up's gain", Daily Post.

 * I think being successful in comedy is being funny and making jokes - anything beyond that is the icing on the cake.
 * Charlotte Cripps (31 January 2007) "Stand up and be counted, comedians", The Independent.

2010s

 * If only Africa had more mosquito nets then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of AIDs.
 * As head of the Catholic church, Pope Benedict is the boss of every Catholic priest in the world, he's effectively king of the pedos.
 * Being Funny (2011)

 * The highest terrorist threat level, as we all know, is “I don't care if this does look racist, I'm getting off the bus... That backpack is huge and he doesn't need to be saying his prayers.”
 * Laughing and Joking (standup DVD, 2013)

No one ever wants to talk about that, because no one ever wants to talk about the positives.
 * When people talk about the Holocaust, they talk about the tragedy and horror of 6 million Jewish lives being lost to the Nazi war machine. But they never mention the thousands of Gypsies that were killed by the Nazis.
 * His Dark Material (Netflix special, Christmas Day 2021). Cited in Jimmy Carr condemned for 'abhorrent' Holocaust joke about Roma people" The Guardian (4 February 2022)
 * The Guardian quoted Olivia Marks-Woldman, chief executive of the UK's Holocaust Memorial Day Trust: "We are absolutely appalled at Jimmy Carr’s comment. ... Hundreds of thousands of Roma and Sinti people suffered prejudice, slave labour, sterilisation and mass murder simply because of their identity – these are not experiences for mockery"

About Carr

 * His idea of wit is a barrage of filth and the sort of humour most men grow out of in their teens.
 * Ann Widdecombe in the Daily Express after an appearance with Carr on Have I Got News for You, cited in "Widdecombe disgusted by Carr's 'filth'" The Guardian (28 November 2007)

 * He's basically the only comedian on telly at the moment and the rest of us are all jealous.
 * Howard Read — reported in Leo Benedictus (16 August 2005) "Edinburgh: Trendspotting: Carr crash humour", The Guardian.

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John Marshall

 * For the archaeologist, see John Marshall (archaeologist)

John Marshall (September 24, 1755 – July 6, 1835) was an American statesman and jurist who greatly influenced American constitutional law. Marshall was the fourth Chief Justice of the United States, serving from February 4, 1801 until his death. He had previously served as a member of the United States House of Representatives and as Secretary of State, to John Adams.

Quotes

 * A constitution is framed for ages to come, and is designed to approach immortality as nearly as human institutions can approach it.
 * Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. (6 Wheaton) 264, 387 (1821)

 * The people made the Constitution, and the people can unmake it. It is the creature of their own will, and lives only by their will.
 * Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. (6 Wheaton) 264, 387 (1821)

 * We have no more right to decline the exercise of jurisdiction which is given, than to usurp that which is not given. The one or the other would be treason to the constitution.
 * Cohens v. Virginia, 19 U.S. (6 Wheaton) 264, 387 (1821); with this sentence Marshall hold that the United States Supreme Court has appellate jurisdiction to hear appeals from a state court in a case between a state and its own citizens, even if the case involved interpretation of a federal statute.

 * Whether a law be void for its repugnancy to the Constitution, is, at all times, a question of much delicacy, which out seldom, if ever, to be decided in the affirmative, in doubtful case. … But it is not on slight implication and vague conjecture that the legislature is to be pronounced to have transcended its powers, and its acts to be considered as void. The opposition between the Constitution and the law should be such that the judge feels a clear and strong conviction of their incompatibility with each other.
 * Fletcher v. Peck, 10 U.S. (6 Cranch) 87, 128 (1810)

 * It is the peculiar province of the legislature to prescribe general rules for the government of society; the application of those rules to individuals in society would seem to be the duty of other departments.
 * Fletcher v. Peck, 10 U.S. (6 Cranch) 87, 128 (1810)

 * Courts are the mere instruments of the law, and can will nothing. When they are said to exercise a discretion, it is a mere legal discretion, a discretion to be exercised in discerning the course prescribed by law; and, when that is discerned, it is the duty of the Court to follow it. Judicial power is never exericised for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the Judge; always for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the Legislature; or, in other words, to the will of the law.
 * Osborn v. Bank of the United States, 22 U.S. (9 Wheaton) 738, 866 (1824)

 * The law does not expect a man to be prepared to defend every act of his life which may be suddenly and without notice alleged against him.
 * In the Trial of Aaron Burr, August 1807

 * Seldom has a battle, in which greater numbers were not engaged, been so important in its consequences as that of Cowpens..
 * The Life of George Washington : Commander in Chief of the American Forces, During the War Which Established the Independence of his Country, and First President of the United States. Second Edition, Revised and Corrected by the Author (1832), Vol. I, p. 401

 * The acme of judicial distinction means the ability to look a lawyer straight in the eyes for two hours and not hear a damned word he says.
 * Reportedly said to a young John Bannister Gibson, who later became Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, when Gibson remarked that Marshall had reached the acme of judicial distinction; in David Goldsmith Loth, Chief Justice: John Marshall and the Growth of the Republic (1949), p. 275. See also Albert J. Beveridge, "Life of John Marshall" (1919)

Marbury v. Madison (1803)

 * Marbury v. Madison, 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137 (1803)

 * The very essence of civil liberty certainly consists in the right of every individual to claim the protection of the laws whenever he receives an injury. One of the first duties of government is to afford that protection. In Great Britain, the King himself is sued in the respectful form of a petition, and he never fails to comply with the judgment of his court. In the third volume of his Commentaries, page 23, Blackstone states two cases in which a remedy is afforded by mere operation of law. "In all other cases," he says, "it is a general and indisputable rule that where there is a legal right, there is also a legal remedy by suit or action at law whenever that right is invaded." And afterwards, page 109 of the same volume, he says, "I am next to consider such injuries as are cognizable by the Courts of common law. And herein I shall for the present only remark that all possible injuries whatsoever that did not fall within the exclusive cognizance of either the ecclesiastical, military, or maritime tribunals are, for that very reason, within the cognizance of the common law courts of justice, for it is a settled and invariable principle in the laws of England that every right, when withheld, must have a remedy, and every injury its proper redress." The Government of the United States has been emphatically termed a government of laws, and not of men. It will certainly cease to deserve this high appellation if the laws furnish no remedy for the violation of a vested legal right.
 * 5. U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 163

 * The powers of the legislature are defined, and limited; and that those limits may not be mistaken, or forgotten, the constitution is written. To what purpose are powers limited, and to what purpose is that limitation committed to writing, if these limits may, at any time, be passed by those intended to be restrained? The distinction, between a government with limited and unlimited powers, is abolished, if those limits do not confine the persons on whom they are imposed, and if acts prohibited and acts allowed, are of equal obligation. It is a proposition too plain to be contested, that the constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it; or, that the legislature may alter the constitution by an ordinary act.
 * 5. U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 176

 * Certainly all those who have framed written constitutions contemplate them as forming the fundamental and paramount law of the nation, and consequently the theory of every such government must be, that an act of the legislature, repugnant to the constitution, is void.
 * 5. U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 177

 * It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that rule. If two laws conflict with each other, the courts must decide on the operation of each. So if a law be in opposition to the constitution: if both the law and the constitution apply to a particular case, so that the court must either decide that case conformably to the law, disregarding the constitution; or conformably to the constitution, disregarding the law: the court must determine which of these conflicting rules governs the case. This is of the very essence of judicial duty.
 * 5 U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 177-178

 * It is also not entirely unworthy of observation, that in declaring what shall be the supreme law of the land, the constitution itself is first mentioned; and not the laws of the United States generally, but those only which shall be made in pursuance of the constitution, have that rank. Thus, the particular phraseology of the constitution of the United States confirms and strengthens the principle, supposed to be essential to all written constitutions, that a law repugnant to the constitution is void; and that courts, as well as other departments, are bound by that instrument.
 * 5. U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 180

 * [T]he constitution controls any legislative act repugnant to it. . . . It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. . . . So if a law be in opposition to the constitution; if both the law and the constitution apply to a particular case, so that the court must either decide that case conformably to the law, disregarding the constitution; or conformably to the constitution disregarding the law; the court must determine which of these conflicting rules governs the case. This is the very essence of judicial duty. . . . Those then who controvert the principle that the constitution is to be considered, in court, as a paramount law, are reduced to the necessity of maintaining that courts must close their eyes on the constitution, and see only the law. This doctrine would subvert the very foundation of all written constitutions . . . It would be giving the legislature a practical and real omnipotence . . . The judicial power of the United States is extended to all cases arising under the constitution.
 * 5. U.S. (1 Cranch) 137, at 177-188.

McCulloch v. Maryland (1819)

 * McCulloch v. Maryland, 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316 (1819)

 * An unlimited power to tax involves, necessarily, a power to destroy; because there is a limit beyond which no institution and no property can bear taxation. A question of constitutional power can hardly be made to depend on a question of more or less. If the states may tax, they have no limit but their discretion; and the bank, therefore, must depend on the discretion of the state governments for its existence. This consequence is inevitable. The object in laying this tax, may have been revenue to the state. In the next case, the object may be to expel the bank from the state; but how is this object to be ascertained, or who is to judge of the motives of legislative acts?
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 327

 * The convention which framed the Constitution was indeed elected by the State legislatures. But the instrument, when it came from their hands, was a mere proposal, without obligation or pretensions to it. It was reported to the then existing Congress of the United States with a request that it might "be submitted to a convention of delegates, chosen in each State by the people thereof, under the recommendation of its legislature, for their assent and ratification." This mode of proceeding was adopted, and by the convention, by Congress, and by the State legislatures, the instrument was submitted to the people. They acted upon it in the only manner in which they can act safely, effectively and wisely, on such a subject — by assembling in convention. It is true, they assembled in their several States — and where else should they have assembled? No political dreamer was ever wild enough to think of breaking down the lines which separate the States, and of compounding the American people into one common mass. Of consequence, when they act, they act in their States. But the measures they adopt do not, on that account, cease to be the measures of the people themselves, or become the measures of the State governments. From these conventions the Constitution derives its whole authority. The government proceeds directly from the people; is "ordained and established" in the name of the people, and is declared to be ordained, "in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to themselves and to their posterity." The assent of the States in their sovereign capacity is implied in calling a convention, and thus submitting that instrument to the people. But the people were at perfect liberty to accept or reject it, and their act was final. It required not the affirmance, and could not be negatived, by the State Governments. The Constitution, when thus adopted, was of complete obligation, and bound the State sovereignties.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 404-405

 * It has been said, that the people had already surrendered all their powers to the State sovereignties, and had nothing more to give. But, surely, the question whether they may resume and modify the powers granted to government does not remain to be settled in this country. Much more might the legitimacy of the general government be doubted, had it been created by the States. The powers delegated to the State sovereignties were to be exercised by themselves, not by a distinct and independent sovereignty, created by themselves. To the formation of a league, such as was the confederation, the State sovereignties were certainly competent. But when, "in order to form a more perfect union," it was deemed necessary to change this alliance into an effective government, possessing great and sovereign powers, and acting directly on the people, the necessity of 'referring it to the people, and of deriving its powers directly from them, was felt and acknowledged by all.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 405

 * The government of the Union, then, … is, emphatically, and truly, a government of the people. In form and in substance it emanates from them. Its powers are granted by them, and are to be exercised directly on them, and for their benefit.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 405

 * This government is acknowledged by all to be one of enumerated powers. The principle, that it can exercise only the powers granted to it, would seem too apparent to have required to be enforced by all those arguments which it enlightened friends, while it was depending before the people, found it necessary to urge. That principle is now universally admitted. But the question respecting the extent of the powers actually granted, is perpetually arising, and will probably continue to arise, as long as our system shall exist.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 405

 * [T]he Government of the Union, though limited in its powers, is supreme within its sphere of action. This would seem to result necessarily from its nature. It is the Government of all; its powers are delegated by all; it represents all, and acts for all. Though any one State may be willing to control its operations, no State is willing to allow others to control them. The nation, on those subjects on which it can act, must necessarily bind its component parts. But this question is not left to mere reason; the people have, in express terms, decided it by saying, [p406] "this Constitution, and the laws of the United States, which shall be made in pursuance thereof," "shall be the supreme law of the land," and by requiring that the members of the State legislatures and the officers of the executive and judicial departments of the States shall take the oath of fidelity to it. The Government of the United States, then, though limited in its powers, is supreme, and its laws, when made in pursuance of the Constitution, form the supreme law of the land, "anything in the Constitution or laws of any State to the contrary notwithstanding."
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 406-407

 * A Constitution, to contain an accurate detail of all the subdivisions of which its great powers will admit, and of all the means by which they may be carried into execution, would partake of the prolixity of a legal code, and could scarcely be embraced by the human mind. It would probably never be understood by the public. Its nature, therefore, requires, that only its great outlines should be marked, its important objects designated, and the minor ingredients which compose those objects be deduced from the nature of the objects themselves. That this idea was entertained by the framers of the American constitution, is not only to be inferred from the nature of the instrument, but from the language.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 407

 * We must never forget that it is a constitution we are expounding.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 407

 * The sword and the purse, all the external relations, and no inconsiderable portion of the industry of the nation, are entrusted to its government. It can never be pretended that these vast powers draw after them others of inferior importance, merely because they are inferior. Such an idea can never be advanced. But it may with great reason be contended, that a government, entrusted with such ample powers, on the due execution of which the happiness and prosperity of the nation so vitally depends, must also be entrusted with ample means for their execution. The power being given, it is the interest of the nation to facilitate its execution. It can never be their interest, and cannot be presumed to have been their intention, to clog and embarrass its execution by withholding the most appropriate means.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 407

 * [T]he power of creating a corporation is one appertaining to sovereignty, and is not expressly conferred on Congress. This is true. But all legislative powers appertain to sovereignty. The original power of giving the law on any subject whatever is a sovereign power, and if the Government of the Union is restrained from creating a corporation as a means for performing its functions, on the single reason that the creation of a corporation is an act of sovereignty, if the sufficiency of this reason be acknowledged, there would be some difficulty in sustaining the authority of Congress to pass other laws for the accomplishment of the same objects. The Government which has a right to do an act and has imposed on it the duty of performing that act must, according to the dictates of reason, be allowed to select the means, and those who contend that it may not select any appropriate means that one particular mode of effecting the object is excepted take upon themselves the burden of establishing that exception. [...] The power of creating a corporation, though appertaining to sovereignty, is not, like the power of making war or levying taxes or of regulating commerce, a great substantive and independent power which cannot be implied as incidental to other powers or used as a means of executing them. It is never the end for which other powers are exercised, but a means by which other objects are accomplished. No contributions are made to charity for the sake of an incorporation, but a corporation is created to administer the charity; no seminary of learning is instituted in order to be incorporated, but the corporate character is conferred to subserve the purposes of education. No city was ever built with the sole object of being incorporated, but is incorporated as affording the best means of being well governed. The power of creating a corporation is never used for its own sake, but for the purpose of effecting something else. No sufficient reason is therefore perceived why it may not pass as incidental to those powers which are expressly given if it be a direct mode of executing them.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 409-411

 * In America, the powers of sovereignty are divided between the Government of the Union and those of the States. They are each sovereign with respect to the objects committed to it, and neither sovereign with respect to the objects committed to the other. We cannot comprehend that train of reasoning, which would maintain that the extent of power granted by the people is to be ascertained not by the nature and terms of the grant, but by its date. Some State Constitutions were formed before, some since, that of the United States. We cannot believe that their relation to each other is in any degree dependent upon this circumstance. Their respective powers must, we think, be precisely the same as if they had been formed at the same time. Had they been formed at the same time, and had the people conferred on the General Government the power contained in the Constitution, and on the States the whole residuum of power, would it have been asserted that the Government of the Union was not sovereign, with respect to those objects which were intrusted to it, in relation to which its laws were declared to be supreme? If this could not have been asserted, we cannot well comprehend the process of reasoning which maintains that a power appertaining to sovereignty cannot be connected with that vast portion of it which is granted to the General Government, so far as it is calculated to subserve the legitimate objects of that Government.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 411-412

 * The subject is the execution of those great powers on which the welfare of a Nation essentially depends. It must have been the intention of those who gave these powers, to insure, as far as human prudence could insure, their beneficial execution. This could not be done by confiding the choice of means to such narrow limits as not to leave it in the power of Congress to adopt any which might be appropriate, and which were conducive to the end. This provision is made in a constitution intended to endure for ages to come, and, consequently, to be adapted to the various crises of human affairs.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 415. Regarding the Necessary and Proper Clause in context of the powers of Congress.

 * But all legislative powers appertain to sovereignty. The original power of giving the law on any subject whatever is a sovereign power [...] All admit that the Government may legitimately punish any violation of its laws, and yet this is not among the enumerated powers of Congress. The right to enforce the observance of law by punishing its infraction might be denied with the more plausibility because it is expressly given in some cases. Congress is empowered "to provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States," and "to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the law of nations." The several powers of Congress may exist in a very imperfect State, to be sure, but they may exist and be carried into execution, although no punishment should be inflicted, in cases where the right to punish is not expressly given. Take, for example, the power "to establish post-offices and post-roads." This power is executed by the single act of making the establishment. But from this has been inferred the power and duty of carrying the mail along the post road from one post office to another. And from this implied power has again been inferred the right to punish those who steal letters from the post office, or rob the mail. It may be said with some plausibility that the right to carry the mail, and to punish those who rob it, is not indispensably necessary to the establishment of a post office and post road. This right is indeed essential to the beneficial exercise of the power, but not indispensably necessary to its existence. So, of the punishment of the crimes of stealing or falsifying a record or process of a Court of the United States, or of perjury in such Court. To punish these offences is certainly conducive to the due administration of justice. But Courts may exist, and may decide the causes brought before them, though such crimes escape punishment. The baneful influence of this narrow construction on all the operations of the Government, and the absolute impracticability of maintaining it without rendering the Government incompetent to its great objects, might be illustrated by numerous examples drawn from the Constitution and from our laws. The good sense of the public has pronounced without hesitation that the power of punishment appertains to sovereignty, and may be exercised, whenever the sovereign has a right to act, as incidental to his Constitutional powers. It is a means for carrying into execution all sovereign powers, and may be used although not indispensably necessary. It is a right incidental to the power, and conducive to its beneficial exercise.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 409 and 416-418. Regarding the Necessary and Proper Clause in context of the powers of Congress.

 * We admit, as all must admit, that the powers of the Government are limited, and that its limits are not to be transcended. But we think the sound construction of the Constitution must allow to the national legislature that discretion with respect to the means by which the powers it confers are to be carried into execution which will enable that body to perform the high duties assigned to it in the manner most beneficial to the people. Let the end be legitimate, let it be within the scope of the constitution, and all means which are appropriate, which are plainly adapted to that end, which are not prohibited, but consist with the letter and spirit of the constitution, are constitutional.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 421. Regarding the interpretation of the Necessary and Proper Clause.

 * Should Congress, in the execution of its powers, adopt measures which are prohibited by the constitution; or should Congress, under the pretext of executing its powers, pass laws for the accomplishment of objects not entrusted to the government; it would become the painful duty of this tribunal, should a case requiring such a decision come before it, to say that such an act was not the law of the land. But where the law is not prohibited, and is really calculated to effect any of the objects entrusted to the government, to undertake here to inquire into the degree of its necessity, would be to pass the line which circumscribes the judicial department, and to tread on legislative ground. This court disclaims all pretensions to such a power.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 423. Regarding the Supreme Courts judicial review power in the context of the Necessary and Proper Clause.

 * [..] it can scarcely be necessary to say that the existence of State banks can have no possible influence on the question. No trace is to be found in the Constitution of an intention to create a dependence of the Government of the Union on those of the States, for the execution of the great powers assigned to it. Its means are adequate to its ends, and on those means alone was it expected to rely for the accomplishment of its ends. To impose on it the necessity of resorting to means which it cannot control, which another Government may furnish or withhold, would render its course precarious, the result of its measures uncertain, and create a dependence on other Governments which might disappoint its most important designs, and is incompatible with the language of the Constitution. But were it otherwise, the choice of means implies a right to choose a national bank in preference to State banks, and Congress alone can make the election. After the most deliberate consideration, it is the unanimous and decided opinion of this Court that the act to incorporate the Bank of the United States is a law made in pursuance of the Constitution, and is a part of the supreme law of the land.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 424

 * This great principle is that the Constitution and the laws made in pursuance thereof are supreme; that they control the Constitution and laws of the respective States, and cannot be controlled by them. From this, which may be almost termed an axiom, other propositions are deduced as corollaries, on the truth or error of which, and on their application to this case, the cause has been supposed to depend. These are, 1st. That a power to create implies a power to preserve; 2d. That a power to destroy, if wielded by a different hand, is hostile to, and incompatible with these powers to create and to preserve; 3d. That, where this repugnancy exists, that authority which is supreme must control, not yield to that over which it is supreme.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 426

 * It is admitted that the power of taxing the people and their property is essential to the very existence of Government, and may be legitimately exercised on the objects to which it is applicable, to the utmost extent to which the Government may choose to carry it. The only security against the abuse of this power is found in the structure of the Government itself. In imposing a tax, the legislature acts upon its constituents. This is, in general, a sufficient security against erroneous and oppressive taxation. The people of a State, therefore, give to their Government a right of taxing themselves and their property, and as the exigencies of Government cannot be limited, they prescribe no limits to the exercise of this right, resting confidently on the interest of the legislator and on the influence of the constituent over their representative to guard them against its abuse.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 428

 * The power to create [a bank] implies the power to preserve [it]... That the power to tax involves the power to destroy; that the power to destroy may defeat and render useless the power to create; that there is a plain repugnance in conferring on one Government a power to control the constitutional measures of another, which other, with respect to those very measures, is declared to be supreme over that which exerts the control, are propositions not to be denied. But all inconsistencies are to be reconciled by the magic of the word CONFIDENCE. Taxation, it is said, does not necessarily and unavoidably destroy. To carry it to the excess of destruction would be an abuse, to presume which would banish that confidence which is essential to all Government. But is this a case of confidence? Would the people of any one State trust those of another with a power to control the most insignificant operations of their State Government? We know they would not. Why, then, should we suppose that the people of any one State should be willing to trust those of another with a power to control the operations of a Government to which they have confided their most important and most valuable interests? In the Legislature of the Union alone are all represented. The Legislature of the Union alone, therefore, can be trusted by the people with the power of controlling measures which concern all, in the confidence that it will not be abused. This, then, is not a case of confidence, and we must consider it is as it really is.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 431

 * If the States may tax one instrument, employed by the Government in the execution of its powers, they may tax any and every other instrument. They may tax the mail; they may tax the mint; they may tax patent rights; they may tax the papers of the custom house; they may tax judicial process; they may tax all the means employed by the Government to an excess which would defeat all the ends of Government. This was not intended by the American people. They did not design to make their Government dependent on the States. [...] If the controlling power of the States be established, if their supremacy as to taxation be acknowledged, what is to restrain their exercising control in any shape they may please to give it? Their sovereignty is not confined to taxation; that is not the only mode in which it might be displayed. The question is, in truth, a question of supremacy, and if the right of the States to tax the means employed by the General Government be conceded, the declaration that the Constitution and the laws made in pursuance thereof shall be the supreme law of the land is empty and unmeaning declamation.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 432-433

 * The Court has bestowed on this subject its most deliberate consideration. The result is a conviction that the States have no power, by taxation or otherwise, to retard, impede, burden, or in any manner control the operations of the constitutional laws enacted by Congress to carry into execution the powers vested in the General Government. This is, we think, the unavoidable consequence of that supremacy which the Constitution has declared. We are unanimously of opinion that the law passed by the Legislature of Maryland, imposing a tax on the Bank of the United States is unconstitutional and void.
 * 17 U.S. (4 Wheaton) 316, 436

Gibbons v. Ogden (1824)

 * Gibbons v. Ogden, 22 U.S. (9 Wheaton) 1 (1824)

 * As men, whose intentions require no concealment, generally employ the words which most directly and aptly express the ideas they intend to convey, the enlightened patriots who framed our constitution, and the people who adopted it, must be understood to have employed words in their natural sense, and to have intended what they have said.
 * 22 U.S. (9 Wheaton) 1, 188

Osborn v. Bank of the United States (1824)

 * Osborn v. Bank of the United States, 22 U.S. (9 Wheaton) 738 (1824)

 * It is incidental to, and is implied in the several acts by which these institutions are created, and is secured to the individuals employed in them, by the judicial power alone; that is, the judicial power is the instrument employed by the government in administering this security. That department has no will, in any case. If the sound construction of the act be, that it exempts the trade of the Bank, as being essential to the character of a machine necessary to the fiscal operations of the government, from the control of the States, Courts are as much bound to give it that construction, as if the exemption had been established in express terms. Judicial power, as contradistinguished from the power of the laws, has no existence. Courts are the mere instruments of the law, and can will nothing. When they are said to exercise a discretion, it is a mere legal discretion, a discretion to be exercised in discerning the course prescribed by law; and, when that is discerned, it is the duty of the Court to follow it. Judicial power is never exercised for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the Judge; always for the purpose of giving effect to the will of the Legislature; or, in other words, to the will of the law.
 * 22 U.S. (9 Wheaton) 1, 888

Quotes about John Marshall

 * No one admires more than I do the extraordinary powers of Marshall's mind; no one respects more his amiable deportment in private life. He is the most unpretending and unassuming of men. His abilities and his virtues render him an ornament not only to Virginia, but to our nature.
 * John Randolph, who was a political adversary. From Vol. I., pp. 487–8 of William Cabell Bruce, John Randolph of Roanoke, 1773–1833, New York: G.P. Putnam’s Sons, 1922

 * My gift of John Marshall to the people of the United States was the proudest act of my life. There is no act of my life on which I reflect with more pleasure. I have given to my country a judge equal to a Hole, Holt, or a Mansfield.
 * John Adams, from p. 62 of Henry J. Abraham Justices, presidents, and senators: a history of the U.S. Supreme Court New York: Rowman & Littlefield, 1999

 * John Marshall has made his decision: now let him enforce it!
 * Apocryphal remark attributed to Andrew Jackson upon hearing the decision of the U.S.Supreme Court in Worcester v. Georgia (1832), attributed in The American Conflict, A History of the Great Rebellion (1866) by Horace Greeley, vol. 1, p. 106; though thought to summarize Jackson's attitude, the attribution is disputed in They Never Said It : A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attributions (1989) by Paul F. Boller Jr., which quotes Jackson as making remarks similar in essence, in a letter to John Coffee: "the decision of the Supreme Court has fell still born, and they find that they cannot coerce Georgia to yield to its mandate."

 * This practice of Judge Marshall, of travelling out of his case to prescribe what the law would be in a most case not before the court, is very irregular and very censurable.
 * Thomas Jefferson to William Johnson, June 12 1823

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 * /Archive 1

Moved some quotes to talk page

 * Five quotes removed from the article can be seen in [//en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Scientology&diff=1654965 this diff.]

Moved above quotes to talk page, per complaints. Hopefully this is satisfactory. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 16:18, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I have redacted them from the talk page: they can be seen in the article history via the above linked "diff". ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:30, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I appreciate the gesture in removing some of the quotes, however I merely used those quotes as examples. I do not agree that the remaining quotes regarding est and Erhard belong on this page. I made some comments about these edits at the Village Pump here:.

I do not think that the quotes that remain on the Scientology page have anything to do with Scientology itself. They are tangential to the topic of Scientology and do not concern themselves with the actual topic of this page and as such they do not belong.--MLKLewis (talk) 00:33, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, I'm glad you appreciate the gesture I made in removing sourced quotes from the page. What other specific sourced quotes would you like to discuss here on the talk page for possible removal? -- Cirt (talk) 06:52, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I think he referred specifically to "the remaining quotes regarding est and Erhard". Is there some ambiguity that neeeds to be resolved? ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, his reasoning as to why he feels they don't relate to Scientology other than vaguely stating that this is his opinion. -- Cirt (talk) 14:35, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, so there was no question of "what other specific sourced quotes" are in dispute. If you disagree with the reasoning for his stated opinion about them, then that is another matter: you may want to offer a rebuttal. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * No, what I want is for MLKLewis and I to be able to amicably discuss individual specific quotes, here on the talk page. That is much more difficult to do after those quotes have been censored from even appearing on the talk page where I wish to discuss them! -- Cirt (talk) 18:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You wrote "What other specific sourced quotes would you like to discuss" [emphasis added] Those other quotes have not been removed, and are still visible in the article. Feel free to discuss the argument MLKLewis has put forward for removing them. ~ Ningauble (talk) 12:56, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Right. All the quotes on the page do have to do with Scientology itself. Absent specific concerns by MLKLewis elaborated about specific quotes, discussed here on the talk page, individually, the quotes should remain. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 18:00, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It is the quotes about est or Erhard that are only tangentially related to Scientology that I object to. Specifically because their appearance on this page does not serve to provide anything quote worthy about Scientology itself. In looking at the history of the page, there were 17 additions to the page relating to est or Erhard done by you, Cirt. - see And while I do appreciate your removing 5 of them when I said something, I do still have objections to the rest because this is a page for quotes about Scientology and these quotes are not.--MLKLewis (talk) 01:06, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * , I understand that you represent a POV that wishes to remove mention from the Internet of Scientology related to Werner Erhard and Landmark Forum, and remove mention of Landmark Forum and Werner Erhard related to Scientology. But history begs to differ from your altered view of reality with that regard. Specifically history as represented in books by academics and scholars. For these reasons I'd like to discuss the quotes you wish censored, individually here on the talk page, and not to just remove them all wholesale in one big swoop of whitewashing. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 09:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Cirt, I have started a new section to discuss individual quotes that I feel do not represent the topic of this page in a new section below.--MLKLewis (talk) 04:27, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much,, I most appreciate your willingness (at least now, apparently) to discuss quotes specifically on an individual basis. -- Cirt (talk) 19:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Quotes added back to talk page for archival purposes
It is standard practice on Wikiquote to move quotes "unsuitable" for the quote page to the talk page.

This is routinely done for example for unsourced and poorly sourced quotes, they get moved to the talk page for further discussion and sourcing improvements.

The talk page then eventually may get archived and is available for future researchers for archival purposes.

Please do not remove this archived material again, thank you.

-- Cirt (talk) 14:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For example, has himself moved quotes "unsuitable" for the quote page to the talk page, here: "moving unsourced attributions to talk page". Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 14:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Per my reply to at User talk:Ningauble, I have self reverted, here, DIFF. I feel like this is censorship of my research and blocking of even the attempt to have a format to discuss quotes on the talk page. -- Cirt (talk) 15:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * As I stated on User talk:Ningauble, if you were you truly placing quotes on the Talk page to discuss the appropriateness of keeping them, it might be a different matter. In this case, it appeared more that you were just putting them there to preserve them so that they would be archived - which is what was objected to. It had the appearance of subverting the process in an attempt to preserve what you felt should have been included. ~ UDScott (talk) 15:41, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * My intent has always been both! I always wish for people to please discuss specific quotes, individually, with me, instead of vague annoying complaints that are nonspecific. -- Cirt (talk) 15:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not seeing the dual purpose: there was no rationale offered for adding them back to the article, only an express intent to archive them. ~ Ningauble (talk) 16:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I always wish to discuss individual quotes specifically, despite some individuals' resistance to discussion of individual quotes specifically on the talk page, which is what the talk page is for, discussion of quotes. -- Cirt (talk) 18:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Proposal to add back quotes removed from talk page

 * 1) I would like to add back to this talk page the quotes that were censored by Ningauble, with this edit "please do not use talk pages to archive material found unsuitable for the article".
 * 2) Ningauble has himself recently moved quotes to the talk page on Wikiquote here, "moving unsourced attributions to talk page".
 * 3) In that other example the quotes were unsourced. Here the quotes were all sourced to secondary sources.
 * 4) In the instance where Ningauble moved unsourced quotes to the talk page, due to the fact that the quotes were unsourced, it is possible the information could have been factually inaccurate or falsely-attributed.
 * 5) In this case, the quotes I moved to the talk page had valid citations.
 * 6) I wish to discuss the individual quotes further for the possibility of maybe adding one or two back someday.
 * 7) I also wish to have them on the talk page for educational archival purposes so that my research is not censored.
 * 8) I do not see the harm in having these quotes being moved to the talk page, and eventually archived, only an increase in posterity.

I will of course wait here on the talk page for further (hopefully polite, kind and amicable) discussion, before taking actions.

Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 18:54, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Quotes Not Related to Topic of Page
The first of the quotes I'd like to see removed from this page because it is not very quoteworthy and is only tangentially related to Scientology, having more to do with "very different kinds of NRM":
 * The prospect of a new global order is also central to many variants of the Human Potential and New Age movements and Scientology. All these very different kinds of NRM nevertheless share a conviction that human beings have, perhaps for the first time, come into possession of the knowledge required to free them from traditional structures of thought and action. Hence, the confidence of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, founder of Transcendental Meditation, and of Werner Erhard, the founder of est (now largely reconfigured as the Landmark Trust), that the state of the entire world would improve if a sufficient number of people became sufficiently energetic and disciplined about their spiritual practice.  - Beckford, James A. --MLKLewis (talk) 04:23, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This quote compares and contrasts multiple different new religious movements together in one fascinating statement by a scholarly academic on the subject, and is most certainly directly related to Scientology. -- Cirt (talk) 19:54, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I can see the first part of the quote fits with what you are saying - I think we should trim it down to the first two sentences and it would work fine. It also reads better as a quote that way too..... "The prospect of a new global order is also central to many variants of the Human Potential and New Age movements and Scientology. All these very different kinds of NRM nevertheless share a conviction that human beings have, perhaps for the first time, come into possession of the knowledge required to free them from traditional structures of thought and action."--MLKLewis (talk) 21:42, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for agreeing with me that the first part of the quote fits with what I am saying. The ending of the quote is key: "that the state of the entire world would improve if a sufficient number of people became sufficiently energetic and disciplined about their spiritual practice." It makes more sense with the full quote, instead of censoring it. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, the second part of the quote is key to what the author is saying, but it is really a broad generalization about some varieties of movementarians, not about Scientology in particular. Including it here is like including remarks about some general aspect of religious belief in the Christianity article if they happen to mention it among a half dozen religions. Furthermore, this does not compare and contrast the identified movements, as you indicate, it merely observes a common element. I don't see anything particularly "quotable" in this observation of something that such movementarians generally say of themselves. Omitting such observations is hardly what I would consider an act of censorship. The actual thesis of the paragraph, which lies in the next sentence, is somewhat more interesting in that it draws a conclusion from the foregoing observation: "Such movements hold out the prospect of globalization based on a combination of liberal individualism and discipline—the very ingredients of modernity". This is what he compares and contrasts, in other paragraphs, with other new religious movements having globalist aspirations that do not exhibit the liberal individualism of modernity. It is a very general point, and Scientology is only named as one several examples. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:45, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you,, I agree with your suggestion that the quote makes more sense with the next sentence included. I have therefore added it. Hopefully this is now satisfactory. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I did not suggest adding it to the article, as you say. I said "It is a very general point, and Scientology is only named as one several examples", which goes to MLKLewis's original point in this thread. In pointing out the "somewhat more interesting" context, I was only to underscoring that the passage you originally selected didn't even capture the point he was making, not suggesting that these remarks about "many variants of the Human Potential and New Age movements..." &etc. belong in this article. ~ Ningauble (talk) 13:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, well, now thanks to your helpfully commenting to us about the rest of the quote, it does capture that point, with the addition to the quote. So thanks again for that, -- Cirt (talk) 17:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The point that doesn't get taken into account with your new revision is that it still does not belong on a page about Scientology. Someone coming to read quotes about Scientology should find quotes directly related to Scientology. This quote is only peripherally related to the topic. I don't agree that your addition improves the quotability or the relevance to this topic and still say that it should be removed.--MLKLewis (talk) 17:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The first sentence of the quote directly mentions Scientology. -- Cirt (talk) 17:54, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * First, the mere mention of the topic is not the criterion on which inclusion on a WQ page is based. But second, I believe that MLKLewis has already offered a compromise earlier in the discussion, suggesting the use of the following: "The prospect of a new global order is also central to many variants of the Human Potential and New Age movements and Scientology. All these very different kinds of NRM nevertheless share a conviction that human beings have, perhaps for the first time, come into possession of the knowledge required to free them from traditional structures of thought and action." ~ UDScott (talk) 18:42, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes but Ningauble helpfully gave us the text of the wording of the rest of the full quote, and the full quote makes more sense with that inclusion. -- Cirt (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, I've made a good faith attempt at compromise and trimmed the quote, per above recommendation by, please see diff, thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 18:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Another quote along the same vein is this one: "Scientology is thus one of several groups that form part of the Human Potential Movement (HPM) - an umbrella term for organization that offer enhanced quality of life. Werner Erhard, founder of Erhard Seminar Training (est - now Landmark Forum) previously studied Scientology, but other groups have no such influence: for example Silva Method, PSI Mind Development and the School of Economic Science (SES), the last of which is influenced by TM." -- as with the quote dealt with earlier, this one is only peripherally about Scientology - the first part of the quote places Scientology in the category of the Human Potential Movement. While this part is about Scientology, the remaining part of the quote is referring to other groups under the umbrella of the Human Potential Movement, not Scientology. I recommend the removal of this quote as well, and if not the entire quote, then certainly we should only keep the first sentence which pertains to the topic of the page.--MLKLewis (talk) 22:48, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I would agree that only the first sentence of this quote is really directly relevant to Scientology, with the rest removed. ~ UDScott (talk) 02:40, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
 * ✅, I've made a good faith gesture here and trimmed this quote to the first sentence, please see diff. -- Cirt (talk) 05:21, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Its lead is written like some of the articles of en.wiki. I think that we should hardly keep it limited to 2 lines. Any opinions? OccultZone (talk) 17:42, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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William Napoli

William M. "Bill" Napoli (born June 17, 1948) is a former Republican state Senator in the South Dakota State Legislature, representing the 35th State Senate district. He retired in 2008.

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 * A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life.
 * When asked for a scenario in which an exception to a 2006 South Dakota state ban on abortion could be invoked. Source: PBS NewsHour (3 March 2006)

 * When I was growing up here in the wild west, if a young man got a girl pregnant out of wedlock, they got married, and the whole darned neighborhood was involved in that wedding. I mean, you just didn't allow that sort of thing to happen, you know? I mean, they wanted that child to be brought up in a home with two parents, you know, that whole story. And so I happen to believe that can happen again.
 * In a 2006 interview regarding his support of the 2006 South Dakota state ban on abortion. PBS NewsHour (3 March 2006)

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User talk:Neil crombie

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User talk:165.234.186.188

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Alfano I, Archbishop of Salerno

Alfano I, Archbishop of Salerno (died 1085) was a noted physician and ecclesiastic, archbishop of Salerno from 1058, who worked at the famous Schola Medica Salernitana.

Quotes

 * ...ad doctrinam huiusmodi copiosius a perpluribus dicta auctoribus, et praecipue ab his quos mater educavit Graecia, Latinorum cogente penuria, . . . transferenda conferam
 * Translation: ...for the teaching of this kind I will devote myself to translating what is said more fully by many authors, and especially those whom mother Greece educated, whilst the Latins were oppressed by lack, . . . of knowledge.
 * From the preface to his translation of the Premnon phisicon of Nemesius.

Attributed

 * Tum medicinali tantum florebat in arte, posset ut hic nullus languor hobere locum
 * Translation: Medicine was so advanced in Salerno that there was no place for illness..

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Robert Roy MacGregor

Robert Roy MacGregor (7 March 1671 – 28 December 1734), Scottish folk hero and outlaw whose life and legend has inspired many romantic portrayals, in literature and film.

Quotes about MacGregor

 * Honor made him a man. Courage made him a hero. History made him a Legend.
 * Tagline for the film Rob Roy (1995)

Rob Roy (1817)

 * Novel by Sir Walter Scott

 * I can follow ye nae farther, even if ye suld founder and perish from the way for lack of guidance and counsel. To gang into Rob Roy's country is a mere tempting o' Providence.

 * If ye are seeking Rob Roy, he's ken'd to be better than half a hunder men strong when he's at the fewest.

 * Our last accounts of Rob Roy correspond with what this fellow has confessed, that, finding himself surrounded on all sides, he had dismissed the greater part of his followers, with the purpose either of lying concealed, or of making his escape through his superior knowledge of the passes.

 * Though habituated to think of Rob Roy in rather a friendly point of view, I will confess frankly that I never heard him speak but that it seemed to thrill my blood. The intonation of the mountaineers gives a habitual depth and hollowness to the sound of their words, owing to the guttural expression so common in their native language, and they usually speak with a good deal of emphasis. To these national peculiarities Rob Roy added a sort of hard indifference of accent and manner, expressive of a mind neither to be daunted, nor surprised, nor affected by what passed before him, however dreadful, however sudden, however afflicting. Habitual danger, with unbounded confidence in his own strength and sagacity, had rendered him indifferent to fear, and the lawless and precarious life he led had blunted, though its dangers and errors had not destroyed, his feelings for others.

Rob Roy's Grave

 * Poem by William Wordsworth, in Memorials of a Tour in Scotland, 1803

 * A famous man is Robin Hood, The English ballad-singer's joy! And Scotland has a thief as good, An outlaw of as daring mood; She has her brave Rob Roy!

 * Heaven gave Rob Roy a dauntless heart And wondrous length and strength of arm: Nor craved he more to quell his foes, Or keep his friends from harm. Yet was Rob Roy as wise as brave; Forgive me if the phrase be strong; — A Poet worthy of Rob Roy Must scorn a timid song.

 * As wise in thought as bold in deed: For in the principles of things He sought his moral creed. Said generous Rob, "What need of books? Burn all the statutes and their shelves: They stir us up against our kind; And worse, against ourselves." "We have a passion — make a law, Too false to guide us or control! And for the law itself we fight In bitterness of soul." "And, puzzled, blinded thus, we lose Distinctions that are plain and few: These find I graven on my heart: That tells me what to do." "The creatures see of flood and field, And those that travel on the wind! With them no strife can last; they live In peace, and peace of mind." "For why? — because the good old rule Sufficeth them, the simple plan, That they should take, who have the power, And they should keep who can." "A lesson that is quickly learned, A signal this which all can see! Thus nothing here provokes the strong To wanton cruelty." "All freakishness of mind is checked; He tamed, who foolishly aspires; While to the measure of his might Each fashions his desires." "All kinds, and creatures, stand and fall By strength of prowess or of wit: 'Tis God's appointment who must sway, And who is to submit." "Since, then, the rule of right is plain, And longest life is but a day; To have my ends, maintain my rights, I'll take the shortest way."

 * And thus among these rocks he lived, Through summer heat and winter snow: The Eagle, he was lord above, And Rob was lord below.

 * I would not wrong thee, Champion brave! Would wrong thee nowhere; least of all Here standing by thy grave. For Thou, although with some wild thoughts, Wild Chieftain of a savage Clan! Hadst this to boast of; thou didst love The liberty of man. And, had it been thy lot to live With us who now behold the light, Thou would'st have nobly stirred thyself, And battled for the Right. For thou wert still the poor man's stay, The poor man's heart, the poor man's hand; And all the oppressed, who wanted strength, Had thine at their command.

 * And, far and near, through vale and hill, Are faces that attest the same, And kindle like a fire new stirr'd, At sound of Rob Roy's name.

 * And, far and near, through vale and hill, Are faces that attest the same; The proud heart flashing through the eyes, At sound of Rob Roy's name.

title: Robert Roy MacGregor


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Talk:Hugh Latimer

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why did ray bradbury quote latimer in his book?

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User:CTSWyneken~enwikiquote

User CTSWyneken is Rev. Robert E. Smith, Electronic Resources Librarian at Concordia Theological Seminary in Fort Wayne, Indiana. Concordia is a conservative Lutheran graduate school of theology, which prepares pastors and scholars for the Lutheran Church -- Missouri Synod and her sister churches worldwide.

Bob is the coordinator of Project Wittenberg, an electronic text initiative dedicated to providing freely accessible versions of works by and about Martin Luther and other Lutherans. He has served as the Archivist and Historian of the Indiana District of the Lutheran Church -- Missouri Synod and is a part of the Lutheran Historical Conference's annual bibliography team.

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Programme is English, and you're not supposed to go changing from one English to another - so your modification to the Theo de Raadt quote page was inappropriate. I therefore reverted that foolish mistake. 65.95.126.239 06:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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Hi. Welcome to English Wikiquote. Enjoy! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
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