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Michael Scheuer

 (born 1952 in Buffalo, New York) is a former CIA counter terrorism officer who headed the unit tasked to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. Scheuer is currently a news analyst for CBS News.

2000s

 * The Afghan jihad confronted the theoreticians of democratic Islam with a hard reality. The Red Army was not defeated by a democratic revolution, but by an Islamist revolution grounded, guided, and steeled by God's words as found in the Koran and explained by the Prophet. Driven by their faith, the mujhadein [sic] uses bullets, not votes, to win one for Allah, and by so doing revalidated jihad as Islam's normative response to attack.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 106).

 * "On balance, the Islamic media's taste for what the West terms sensationalizing and conspiracy mongering is less than meets the eye. Based on my research, it is apparent that the Islamic media's correspondents and editors work harder, dig deeper, and think more than most of their Western counterparts. This is not to say that the Islamic media do not suffer from sensationalized conspiracy theories, but they probably are no more prone to those faults than their Western colleagues."
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 280)

 * Bin Laden's long-standing support for the Palestinians against Israel also appears to have been learned at his father's knee.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 82).

 * In 1993 Osama bin Laden began speaking in detail to Muslim and Western journalists about his beliefs, goals, and intentions, and began publishing commentaries on these matters in the media.... While bin Laden's words have not been a torrent, they are plentiful, carefully chosen, plainly spoken, and precise. He has set out the Muslim world's problems as he sees them; determined that they are caused by the United States; explained why they must be remedied; and outlined how he will try to do so. Seldom in America's history has an enemy laid out so clearly the basis for the war he is waging against it.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (pp. 45-6).
 * "Bin Laden, of course, learned his military skills in Afghanistan, not on the Iran-Iraq border, and, as a result, his methodological approach to waging jihad is marked by a measured manner stressing patience, preparation, and professionalism.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 71).

 * The data in the public domain suggest the truth about bin Laden's activities in Afghanistan is much closer to the picture of him as 'the great freedom fighter of the Islamic world" than to the Western experts' description of him as an Islamic do-gooder or an immature, irrational youth.
 * Through Our Enemies Eyes (p. 92)

 * Before the [1990 Iraqi] attack [on Kuwait], bin Laden angered Saudi authorities by making a public "prophesy ... [that] Saddam was going to invade Saudi Arabia." Sa'd al-Faqih claims bin Laden also sent "secret confidential letters to the King" about the Iraqi threat; according to al-Faqih, "he [bin Laden] was giving talks about it in the mosques. He was giving speeches in the mosques and talking about the dangers of the Ba'ath ... having ambitions to invade Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. And then his prophesy was correct. And he was never respected or rewarded for that. Instead he was advised to stay in Jeddah; he was put in sort of house arrest.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 113)

 * There is information showing that in the 1993-1994 period bin Laden began to work with Sudan and Iraq to acquire a CBRN capability for al Qaeda.
 * Through Our Enemies Eyes (p. 124) Scheuer later retracted this statement..

 * In Sudan, Bin Laden decided to acquire and, when possible, use chemical, biological, radiological and nuclear (CBRN) weapons against Islam's enemies. Bin Laden's first moves in this direction were made in cooperation with NIF [Sudan's National Islamic Front], Iraq's intelligence service and Iraqi CBRN scientists and technicians. He made contact with Baghdad with its intelligence officers in Sudan and by a [Hassan] Turabi-brokered June-1994 visit by Iraq's then-intelligence chief Faruq al-Hijazi; according to Milan's Corriere della Sera, Saddam, in 1994, made Hijazi responsible for "nurturing Iraq's ties to [Islamic] fundamentalist warriors. Turabi had plans to formulate a "common strategy" with bin Laden and Iraq for subverting pro-U.S. Arab regimes, but the meeting was a get-acquainted session where Hijazi and bin Laden developed a good rapport that would "flourish" in the late 1990s.
 * Through Our Enemies Eyes (p. 124)

 * Regarding Iraq, bin Laden, as noted, was in contact with Baghdad's intelligence service since at least 1994. He reportedly cooperated with it in the area of chemical-biological-radiological-nuclear [CBRN] weapons and may have trained some fighters in Iraq at camps run by Saddam's anti-Iran force, the Mujahedin al-Khalq.
 * Through Our Enemies' Eyes (p. 184)

 * We know for certain that bin Laden was seeking CBRN [chemical-biological-radiological-nuclear] weapons . . . and that Iraq and Sudan have been cooperating with bin Laden on CBRN weapon acquisition and development.
 * Through Our Enemies Eyes (p. 192)

 * I hope that Israel flourishes, I just don't think that Israel is worth ‘an American life or an American dollar’
 * Michael Scheuer interviewed by Bill Maher, September 21, 2007.

 * Well, the clandestine aspect is that, clearly, the ability to influence the Congress--that's a clandestine activity, a covert activity. You know to some extent, the idea that the Holocaust Museum here in our country is another great ability to somehow make people feel guilty about being the people who did the most to try to end the Holocaust. I find--I just find the whole debate in the United States unbearably restricted with the inability to factually discuss what goes on between our two countries.
 * On Israel's alleged "clandestine activities".

 * I wasn't in the room with the president and Mr. Tenet. But I can tell that you that the people who were working against Osama bin Laden were assured from the first day that much of the work we had done in the last decade would be undone by that war.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004

 * Right now, the choice isn't between war and peace. It is between war and endless war.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004

 * Musharraf has bent over backwards, sir. Quite frankly, I would have bet my pension that Musharraf would not have done half of what he's done. He's done a tremendous amount for us.
 * on Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004

 * He (Osama bin Laden) doesn't want to fight this war forever. A lot of people mistake him as someone who can't get along without fighting.  But that's not clearly the case.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004.

 * It's always been hard for me to understand how we say people who supports Osama Bin Laden or someone else like him – who are willing to give their lives to destroy the dictatorship in Saudi Arabia – how we can describe those people as people who hated freedom. It seems to me that their definition of freedom might be different than ours, but to oppose a dictatorship, one must want freedom in some kind of way.
 * Al-Jazeera TV on September 11 and 12, 2005

 * I think that – you know – we just encountered – America encountered – a brilliant man, and in terms of being a noble cause, it wasn't that many centuries ago that killing in the name of God, or waging war in the name of God, was a major thing in Christianity.
 * Al-Jazeera TV on September 11 and 12, 2005

 * I think the 9/11 Commission, report, for example is wrong. The 9/11 Commission report identifies bin Laden and his followers as takfiris, who kill Muslims if they don‘t agree with them. They‘re not takfiris. They‘re just very devout, severe Salafists and Wahhabis.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004

 * [Bin Laden has] already said publicly that you can have all the oil you want. I can‘t drink it. We‘re going to sell it to you at a marketplace.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004

 * I don't consider Osama Bin Laden to be a terrorist. I consider him to be a resistance fighter.
 * Roundtable discussion on PBS regarding Islam--April 14th 2006, answering a question posed by Ray Suarez.

 * His motive—his motive is to change our policies, sir. Notwithstanding what the president or Mr. Kerry said during the campaign, he really doesn't give a darn about our democracy or our society.  He is after a change in policies which he views as lethal to Muslims.
 * on Osama bin Laden's reasons for wanting to kill Americans
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews, November 16 2004.

 * "You know, I was born at night but not last night, sir. There is no operation at the CIA that is conducted without approval of lawyers. It is the bane of our existence, and it is a detriment to the defense of America, but, nonetheless, that is the fact."
 * Discussing Extraordinary Rendition of terrorist suspects during testimony to government committees, April 17 2007.

 * I happened to do the research on the links between al Qaeda and Iraq. (MATTHEWS: And what did you come up with?) SCHEUER: Nothing.
 * Hardball with Chris Matthews November 16, 2004
 * The test of an intelligence officer is not so much the ability to accumulate information; it's to judge between different pieces of information, and not to take a piece of information and use it in a piece of analysis simply because it fits your case, but to use it because it either comes from a reliable source like signals intercepts, from a human source that has been vetted over time as a reliable person, or it comes from documentary information -- papers you've stolen from another government or some other organization. The work that came out of Feith's shop that I saw, especially on Al Qaeda and Iraq, was simply ... finding pieces of information in the world of intelligence information that fit the argument they wanted to make. Tenet, to his credit, had us go back 10 years in the agency's records and look and see what we knew about Iraq and Al Qaeda. I was available at the time, and I led the effort. We went back 10 years. We examined about 20,000 documents, probably something along the line of 75,000 pages of information, and there was no connection between [Al Qaeda] and Saddam.
 * "''The Dark Side, PBS Frontline Interview, (22 June 2006).

2010s

 * The history of the Democratic Party can be concisely captured by referring to its steadfast allegiance to the four Ss. Slavery, Secession, Segregation, and Socialism. During the Obama presidency we have seen how hard old habits die, even for a black man whose race was the long-time victim of Democratic Party's bone-deep authoritarianism. Under this Democratic president we have seen a war waged on several fronts against America's young. Indeed, the Democrats' historic taste for and belief in slavery have resurfaced with a vengeance and indiscriminately under the Obama administration, whether white, black, yellow, red, male, or female America's young are dying and being forced to work for Obama and his lieutenants as they seek to maintain their party's hold on political power. How so? Well, America has never had a president and administration so eager to kill unborn Americans. Even with post-1973 science having proved irrefutably that the unborn are human beings, and even though American law always has defined them as U.S. citizens, Obama and his colleagues have strengthened at every point they could the absurd notion that unborn humans are the chattel property of the woman who bears them, and so can be disposed of, that is, murdered, at her whim. And, in what must be considered a masterpiece of Orwellian language, Obama and his team, and most Democrats since 1973, describe this federal government-issued license to kill as a woman's 'right', a means by which she manifests her equality with men. They then damn any one who questions the logic, sanity, or justice of this argument as an 'extremist'. Only in an America in which a political entity as devoted to the four 'Ss' as the Democratic Party could opposition to the cold-blooded murder of fellow citizens unable defend themselves be identified by the country’s best-educated as 'extremism'. If this is indeed a right, it is a right gives each woman the right to be a slave-owner and a Nazi. Such a 'right' really is no different than the rights sanctioned by the Dred Scott decision and the Nuremberg laws, each of which legally defined certain categories of people out of the human race in order to enslave or kill them. Since 1973, the application of this 'right' has produced precisely the same results as Dred Scott and the Nuremberg laws, though in numbers so immense, 55 million and climbing, that they make those acts seem rather tame and minimally destructive of humans.
 * As quoted in "Obama and his party offer America's young … death, misery, and slavery" (21 November 2013), by M. Scheuer, Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention.

 * Next we have Obama's murderous use of America's military young for his and his party’s partisan political purposes. He kept U.S. soldiers in Iraq, a war which should never have been started, long after he had announced the war was un-winnable but just long enough to pile up heaps of dead and maimed American youngsters in order to make their withdrawal timely and useful for electoral purposes. Now we see Obama and his team keeping U.S. troops in Afghanistan long after he decided to surrender to the Islamists in that that war, and thereby knowingly enhance the strength, lethality, self-confidence, and ambitions of America’s most dangerous enemies by returning to them their key safe haven. Our troops are the cream of America's young and they ought not to be used by any president as if he was their owner. Obama, however, seems to regard them, as he does the unborn, as chattel to be disposed of as he and his advisers see fit to advance Democratic Party political prospects. Finally, we have Obama and his advisers seeking to financially enslave this generation of young Americans, and each generation that follows it, in order to pay for his health care program. Obama and his lieutenants are starting slow in this area, but the evidence of coming coercion, beyond the mandatory fine young people pay if they prove not to be servile, can be seen in West Virginia, where university students reportedly will not be allowed to matriculate unless they enroll in Obama Care This amounts to a 4-year term of indentured service for the privilege of paying extortionate tuition for a mediocre education offered by anti-American ideologues of Obama’s stripe. And make no mistake, these young people are not being threatened and ultimately coerced to forfeit their salary, savings, and future for the elderly and sick. They are being used to fund health care for the core groups, dare I say 'plantations', of the Democratic Party.
 * As quoted in "Obama and his party offer America's young … death, misery, and slavery" (2013), by M. Scheuer, Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention.

 * Those in the Ivy League, Hollywood, the media, the leftist rich, and most schools and universities who, like Obama, consider themselves superior intellectuals earmarked by some demented destiny to implement their pagan, socialist, and anti-human ideology in the United States. They first mean to destroy the Second Amendment, and then, safe to be tyrants, though cowards all, they intend remake in their own worthless image those Americans who still work hard, who believe in and are willing to fight to defend liberty, and who have learned the Founders' key lesson, namely, that the federal government must always be seen as an enemy of freedom and therefore must be kept in check and opposed to the hilt whenever necessary. Perhaps it would be best if Obama and his Ivy-League elite studied the words of a man they hail an icon of their party and with whom they share a liking for slavery, but who actually is a man they do not in the least understand.
 * As quoted in "Obama and his party offer America's young … death, misery, and slavery" (2013), by M. Scheuer, Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention.

 * And it is just as important for the Republicans to read Jefferson's words because they are as bad and perhaps worse than the Democrats. As the decades of Democratic abuse of America's young unfolded, the Republicans have been utterly craven, seeking to save the young, the Constitution, and the republic with words alone when in opposition, and doing virtually nothing substantive to arrest the republic's decline when they hold power. Today, the Republicans cower, mumble, and equivocate when called 'extremists' by those heroic Democratic champions of murdering the unborn, they follow like murmuring sheep the shrill martial words of Senators Graham and McCain and so get young Americans uselessly killed and maimed in wars that are either unnecessary or ones they have no intention of winning, and they are barely brave enough to raise economic points and words of I-told-you-so to oppose the coming, liberty-killing indentured servitude of America's young in the name of Obamacare. Indeed, the Republicans seem increasingly like those gassy, self-righteous, and hell-bound rhetoricians.
 * As quoted in "Obama and his party offer America's young … death, misery, and slavery" (2013), by M. Scheuer, Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention.

 * If there is a hereafter, the Democrats will burn because they were the Doers that killed the republic, the Republicans because they were the Talkers who abetted its murder. And such will be a well deserved fate for both. It is enough to make an agnostic hope there is a God.
 * As quoted in "Obama and his party offer America's young … death, misery, and slavery" (2013), by M. Scheuer, Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention.

 * The national Democratic Party and its southern affiliates labored mightily to re-subjugate the newly free blacks, eventually succeeding by implementing Jim Crow laws, motivating the birth of the Klan and then protecting it, establishing separate-but-equal schools and public facilities, and enacting codes of lawful segregation, all of which Democrats defended in a fight to the death until the 1960s. In U.S. history, from the ratification of the Constitution to the economic devastation wrought by Obama on contemporary black Americans, the men and women who run Democratic Party, from Jefferson and Jackson forward, have been the ferocious enemy of black Americans entering the mainstream of American life, to this day bending every tool of political power to keep them angry, unemployed, mired in poverty, and politically and economically dependent in a manner that approaches quite near to re-enslavement.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (22 June 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * The Army of Northern Virginia. Under the superb command of Marse Robert that army's battle flag came close to being a national flag of an independent Confederate States of America. Thank God it did not. But neither were those who fought under that banner executed, imprisoned, permanently disenfranchised, or exiled, as the losers in most other civil wars have been. As Lincoln advised, U.S. Grant, and William T. Sherman 'let 'em up easy'. Thereafter, the battle flag was flown for some bad purposes, as the emblem of the Klan and the Democratic Party's southern wing.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (22 June 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * Well, the New York Times editorial board, that reliable abettor of all the liars, haters, and fantasists, aka Democrats, who detest the American South and lust to rewrite America's history into party-serving fiction, has endorsed dumping Andrew Jackson in favor of rewarding a woman with his place on the twenty dollar bill. So fundamentally important to the nation is this switch that the Board’s reputedly adult members have decided that the only group sober and knowledgeable enough to decide how to destroy another piece of American history and further persecute the South is 'the nation's schoolchildren' who should be made to 'nominate and vote on Jackson’s replacement. Why not give them another reason to learn about women who altered history and make some history themselves by changing American currency?' Why of course, what geniuses! And, then, why not let these kids — who cannot figure out that the brim of baseball cap goes in the front — go on to decide other pressing national issues. Maybe they can replace General Washington on the $1 bill with a Muslim woman and thereby end America's war with Islam. As the saying goes, you could not make this stuff up. Now Andrew Jackson was not the most unblemished of men, but he risked his life repeatedly for his country; killed its enemies; expanded U.S. territory in North America; defeated the British at New Orleans; was twice elected president; and faced down and was prepared to hang the South Carolina nullifiers when he believed they were seeking to undermine and break the Union. Jackson is one of those southern fellows, and so he is now a target for banishment from our currency and eventually our history because he did not treat slaves and Indians as if they were his equals and, indeed, inflicted pain on both. But he also was, along with Thomas Jefferson, another insensitive chap toward blacks and Indians, the longtime icon of the Democratic Party and its great self-praising and fund-raising feast, the annual 'Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner', which was, of course, a fervent tribute to those that General Jackson would have hanged without blinking.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (9 July 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * Andrew Jackson then is a sturdy obstacle to the Democrats' ongoing and increasingly frenzied campaign to erase from America's history all the unsavory things their party has championed for most of its existence, namely, slavery, secession, civil war, segregation, socialism, and, most recently the slaughter of infants. And so their longtime hero Andrew Jackson has been, as Sam Spade once said, chosen to take the fall alongside the battle flag of the Army of Northern Virginia to help erase the Democrats' consistently reprehensible behavior and policies from the history books. But there is a rub. None of the women the Democrats have so far raised as General Jackson's replacement in any way merit representation in the pantheon of patriots, nation-builders, and military leaders that grace the few denominations of our paper currency.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (9 July 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * The only American woman deserving a place on U.S. paper currency is, of course, Anne Hutchinson, a devout 17th century Protestant New Englander who was a fearless champion of religious liberty, family, free speech, and equality — not preference — for women in religious affairs. Perhaps a new piece of currency could be created, one to which the attachment of her portrait would do honor. Ms. Hutchinson, however, is out of contention in the Democrats’ virulent anti-Southern currency crusade because her character traits – and the fifteen children she had with one husband — just do not jive with being Modern Democratic Party Women, those who glory in, and seek legal, economic, and political preference for their talents in whining, vamping, aborting, as well as recognition for their indispensable and eagerly given help in making the United States one of the world’s industrial-scale producers of both pornography and the dismembered corpses of infants. There may be something that can be done, however. The portrait of another Democratic icon named Woodrow Wilson now adorns the $100,000 bill, which appears to be to be used mainly in transactions.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (9 July 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * The Democrat Wilson was a dyed-in-the-wool bigot who as president tried to rid the national government of its few black employees, save, of course, those who could be cooks, waiters, drivers, or fill other kinds of menial jobs. Wilson was, indeed, as great a bigot toward blacks, as today's Democratic president is.
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (9 July 2015), by M. Scheuer.

 * But one problem remains. How can the conspiracy-minded Modern Democratic Party Women be assured that the switch was made? It is true that not many people would see the new bills and so some doubt might arise among the Democratic sisterhood about whether Wilson was really removed and then replaced on the bill by the three ladies named above. There is only one sure-fire means of relieving the Modern Democratic Party Women of their doubts before the whining starts. That means is to have the Democratic National Committee direct its current icon, Hilary Clinton, to publicly report on who appears on the $100,000 note each time she and her husband receive a packet of those bills from one or another of the foreign governments for which they are apparently selling out American interests. After all, if you cannot trust America’s graft-taker-in-chief, who can you trust?
 * As quoted in Michael Scheuer's Non-Intervention (9 July 2015), by M. Scheuer.

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Zulu (film)

Zulu is a 1964 film that chronicles a company of British soldiers defending the mission station at Rorke's Drift during the Anglo-Zulu War of 1879.
 * Directed by Cy Endfield. Screenplay by Cy Endfield and John Prebble.

Dwarfing the Mightiest! Towering Over the Greatest!

Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead

 * Still, a chap ought to look smart in front of the men, don't you think?
 * [Upon being told the rifles the Zulu are firing were taken from British soldiers] Well, that's a bitter pill, our own damn rifles!
 * [At an extreme peak in the battle, Lieutenant Chard starts to buckle under the pressure and becomes unresponsive] Stay in the fight, man! We need you, damn it! We need you!
 * At one hundred yards, volley fire present! Aim! FIRE!
 * Volley by ranks! First rank, FIRE! Second rank, FIRE! Third rank, FIRE!

Colour Sergeant Bourne

 * A prayer's as good as a bayonet on a day like this.
 * Right- nobody told you to stop workin'.

Private Henry Hook

 * What do you think? It's Mr. Flamin' Bromhead shooting flamin' defenseless animals for the flamin' officers' flamin' dinner.

Dialogue

 * Mr. Witt: Oh, Lord in heaven...
 * Margareta Witt: What is it, father?
 * Mr. Witt: A thousand British soldiers have been massacred. While I stood here talking peace, a war has started.

 * Cpl. William Allen: Heave! Put a bit more weight on that rope, you men!
 * Pvt. John Williams: He's even got a voice like a corporal!
 * Pvt. Fred Hitch: Yeah, sort of like a female hippopotamus in labor.

 * Sgt. Robert Maxfield: You're no good to anyone, except the Queen and Sergeant Maxfield!
 * Pvt. Henry Hook: Well thank you very much, the both of you!

 * Lt. Chard: The Army doesn't like more than one defeat in a day.
 * Lt. Bromhead: Looks bad in the newspapers and upsets civilians at their breakfast.

 * Lt. Bromhead: The entire column? It's damned impossible! Eight hundred men?
 * Adendorff: Twelve hundred men. There were four hundred native levies, also.
 * Bromhead: Damn the levies, man, more cowardly blacks!
 * Adendorff: What the hell do you mean, "cowardly blacks"? They died on your side, didn't they? And who the hell do you think is coming to wipe out your little command? The Grenadier Guards? [Adendorff begins to walk away]
 * Lt. Chard: Adendorff, are you staying?
 * Adendorff: Is there anywhere else to go?
 * Lt. Chard: Talk to our levies, will you? Tell them whose side they're on.

 * Reynolds: You've got a fine handsome boil, my friend. There's one glistening boil for every soldier in Africa. You may not win any medals on this campaign, but you'll certainly get more boils. For every gunshot wound I probe, I expect to lance three boils.
 * Hook: Uh, a spot of medicinal brandy would set me up, sir.
 * Reynolds: Brandy's for heroes, Mr. Hook. The rest of you will make do with boils in your skin, flies in your meat, and dysentery in your bellies. Now - this will hurt you a lot more than it will me, I'm happy to say.

 * Bourne: They'll know my voice when they hear it, sir.
 * Witt: Let them hear it now, in praise of the Lord. Call upon Him - call upon Him, man, for your salvation!
 * Bourne: Well, as far as I can remember, sir, it goes something like this: "He maketh wars to cease in all the world. He breaketh the bow and snappeth the spear in sunder." Do you know it, sir?
 * Witt: "I shall be exalted among the heathen, I shall be exalted in the earth. The Lord of Hosts is with us."
 * Bourne: That's it, sir. [to troops in work detail] All right, nobody told you to stop working! You lead back-sided-- get sweatin'!

 * Maxfield: Pick up the rifle, Hook. And get to it! I'll make a soldier of you yet.
 * Hook: And what for? Did I ever see a Zulu walk down the City Road? No! So what am I doing here?
 * Maxfield: You're here because you were a liar, a coward, and a thief. Now you can be a soldier- like what they pay you for.

 * [Colour Sergeant Bourne and several other soldiers have brought a drunken Mr. Witt and his daughter to their wagon to get them away before the Zulus attack.]
 * Lt. Chard: Keep driving with the sun at your back. Should make it safely.
 * Mr. Witt: Sergeant!
 * Margareta Witt: Father!
 * Mr. Witt: Leave me alone!
 * Lt. Chard: Try to understand him, Miss Witt.
 * Mr. Witt: Death awaits you! You have made a covenant with death and with Hell you are in agreement! You're all going to die! Don't you realize? Can't you see? You're all going to die! [Chard whips one of the horses. They start, pulling the Witts and their carriage away.] DIE! Death awaits you all! Die! Die!
 * Private Cole: He's right. Why is it us? Why us?
 * Colour Sgt. Bourne: Because we're here, lad. Nobody else. Just us.
 * Lt. Chard: Colour Sergeant.
 * Colour Sgt. Bourne: Right. Now, get back to your posts! On the double!

 * [At the ruins of the garrison hospital]
 * Lt. Chard: Who was left in here?
 * Lt. Bromhead: I don't know.
 * Lt. Chard: They had names, they had faces, they were our men. What do you mean you don't know?
 * Lt. Bromhead: Chard!
 * Lt. Chard: All right. Well, you've fought your first action.
 * Lt. Bromhead: Does everyone feel like this afterward?
 * Lt. Chard: How do you feel?
 * Lt. Bromhead: I feel... sick.
 * Lt. Chard: Well, you have to be alive to feel sick.
 * Lt. Bromhead: You asked me, I told you. There's... something else. I feel ashamed. Was that how it was for you? The first time?
 * Lt. Chard: The first time? You think I could stand this butcher's yard more than once?
 * Lt. Bromhead: I didn't know.
 * Lt. Chard: I told you. I came up here to build a bridge.

 * Lt. Chard: Thank you, for what you said.
 * Lt. Bromhead: Hm? Oh, you mean about our needing you? Don't bother, old boy, it's true.

 * Colour Sgt. Bourne: Sir, sentries report the Zulus have gone. All of them! It's a miracle.
 * Lt. Chard: If it's a miracle, Colour Sergeant, it's a short chamber Boxer-Henry point-four-five caliber miracle.
 * Sgt. Bourne: And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind it.

 * [Adendorff sees the Zulus re-forming on a hill.]
 * Adendorff: Damn you... God damn you!
 * Lt. Chard: Adendorff, what are they doing? Answer me!
 * Adendorff: Haven't you had enough? Both of you?! Can't you see your damned egos don't matter anymore? We're dead.
 * Lt. Bromhead: [shouting at Zulus] Well, what are you waiting for? Come on! Come on!
 * [The Zulus begin another musical war-chant.]
 * Bromhead: Those bastards! They're taunting us!
 * Adendorff: [Realizing what the Zulus are really doing, he begins to laugh] No, you couldn't be more wrong! They're saluting you. They're saluting fellow braves!

Narrator (Richard Burton)

 * [At the end of the film]
 * In the hundred years since the Victoria Cross was created for valour and extreme courage beyond that normally expected of the British soldier in face of the enemy only 1344 have been awarded. Eleven of these were won by the defenders of the mission station at Rorke's Drift, Natal, January 22nd to the 23rd 1879.
 * Fredrick Schiess, Corporal, Natal Native Contingent.
 * William Allen, Corporal, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot.
 * Fred Hitch, Private B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot.
 * James Langley Dalton, Acting Assistant Commissary, Army Commissariat Department.
 * 612 John Williams, Private, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot.
 * 726 Robert Jones, 593 William Jones, Privates, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot.
 * Henry Hook, Private, B Company, 2nd Battalion, 24th Foot.
 * James Henry Reynolds, Surgeon Major, Army Hospital Corps.
 * Gonville Bromhead, Lieutenant, B Company, 2nd Battalion of the 24th Regiment of Foot, South Wales Borderers.
 * John Rouse Merriott Chard, Lieutenant, Royal Engineers, Officer Commanding - Rorke's Drift.

Taglines

 * Dwarfing The Mightiest! Towering Over The Greatest!
 * The supreme spectacle that had to come thundering out of the most thrilling continent!
 * The epic story of courage, honour and pride.
 * These are the days and nights of fury and honor and courage and cowardice that an entire century of empire-making and film-making can never surpass!

Cast

 * Stanley Baker - Lieutenant John Chard
 * Michael Caine - Lieutenant Gonville Bromhead
 * Jack Hawkins - Reverend Otto Witt
 * James Booth - Private Hook
 * Nigel Green - Colour Sergeant Bourne
 * Glynn Edwards - Corporal Allen
 * Patrick Magee - Surgeon Major Reynolds
 * Peter Gill - Private Williams
 * David Kernan - Private Fred Hitch
 * Richard Davies - Private Jones 593
 * Denys Graham - Private Jones 716
 * Dickie Owen - Corporal "Dutchy" Schiess
 * Dennis Folbigge - Commissary Dalton
 * Ivor Emmanuel - Private Owen
 * Gert Van den Burgh - Lt. Josef Adendorff
 * Ulla Jacobsson - Margareta Witt
 * Paul Daneman - Sergeant Maxfield
 * Richard Burton - Narrator

title: Zulu (film)


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James Cramer

James Cramer (born 10 February 1955) is an American lawyer, a former Goldman Sachs financial advisor, a shareholder, a former CNBC Kudlow & Cramer co-host with Lawrence Kudlow, CNBC Mad Money host, and director and shareholder of TheStreet.com, a company publicly traded on the NASDAQ Stock Market with the stock symbol TSCM.

Quotes

 * OK, Peter writes, "Should I be worried about in terms of liquidity and get my money out of there?" No, no, no! Bear Stearns is fine. Do not take your money— this is ridi— if there's one takeaway other than a +400 so Bear— Bear Stearns is not in trouble. If anything, they're more likely to be taken over. Don't move your money from Bear! That's just being silly! Don't be silly.
 * Mad Money (11 March 2008)

 * Go cry to your mother.
 * CNBC U.S. generic commercial spot in MPEG format registered at DG Systems/SourceTV.com Note: this link no longer works. 7/14/2009

 * Apple is becoming the JC Penney of tech. I think that there is a sense that the company is in a tailspin, and it doesn't seem to matter what they do right now. … Whatever product that is coming out in September is a clear loser. We haven't seen it yet, but it is a loser.
 * Cramer: Apple Is 'Becoming the JC Penney of Tech' in CNBC Executive Edge (2 April 2013)

title: James Cramer


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Talk:Hunter S. Thompson

New

 * Isn't "faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death" attributed to HST?

 * Someone screwed this page up and removed much of the quotage. The last good revision was (cur) (last)  22:44, 24 Mar 2005 Alan J Franklin (+items from: "Welcome...").  I hope someone will fix this, since I don't know how to import the wiki "code" directly from an old revision, I can only copy and paste.

 * anyone have the quote about clinton not recognizing the saxophone reed thingy that hst had brought as a gift when rolling stone sat three writers down with the man who would be just after they decided to give him the cover that month? can't recall it precisely enought to quote.

Hunter S. Thompson
My son Simon, like myself, is/was a fan of Hunter's literary style and unique insight. On learning of Hunter's suicide, he sent me an email as follows:

"I always knew he would be killed by some deranged psychopath...bummer."

I think Hunter would approve.

KR Edwards

It's hard to say why I'm so upset by his death. It could be the witty jokes, or insight to a life worth living... but in reality it's losing a voice. As long as he was out there seeing things through his eyes - eyes capable of seeing that high water mark in Las Vegas - it felt like someone was willing to speak the truth. Brutal honesty took a hit here too. RIP Hunter

GVS

No quotes from Where the Buffalo Roam?

Anonymous Inquisitor

"What kind of women can you get? You've got shitty dope!"

Back to what GVS said, you are absolutely correct, and WOW, well spoken your correctness is too. The greatest tragedy of death is not the decay of flesh, or some metaphysical passage of smokey spirit stuff into some dark unknown future. The real tragedy is a loss of a voice. Its the silencing of an intentional source of information. Fear not death, and loath not loss my friend. I promise you that his voice has lived on, and the simple fact that it can be heard so clearly after his death is a testament to its truth and profoundity in life.

I imagine he is actually being recultured in some horribly monsterous cryogenic lab in Roswell. Him and Elvis will be flying high together in some lightspeed portable alien utopia in no time flat.

Alexander Strampen

Quote out of context
The quote from Kingdom of Fear about Bob Dylan jacking off in an XXX theater while stroking the spine of a fat young boy is taken out of context. HST expressed considerable horror in the sentences after this quote at even thinking up such an image. I don't have my copy of the book with me right now, so I can't add to it with certainty. Is there some policy about taking quotes out of context in a way that reflects in an extremely negative way on the author? It's not a really important quote, and I personally think it should be removed, but if not, I think it should be added to so as to avoid making HST look like a deranged pedophile. Any thoughts, anyone? Belial 20:51, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

If you can reference it, add it. There is nothing wrong with quoting negative comments, as long as you point out that he later showed regret for having made such a statement. Its part of who he was, he was not perfect, but he was aware of how and when he was on the verge of vitriol, or standing in a puddle of it. If anyone can find and quote this statement in Kingdom of Fear, I urge you to do it.

Human or dancer
The chorus of the song Human by The Killers, "are we human or are we dancer?", is based on something Hunter S. Thompson once wrote. Source: "He says the lyrics were inspired by a disparaging comment made by Hunter S. Thompson about how America was raising a generation of Tony Danzas." (people who follow a pattern similar to the dim witted albeit big hearted stay at home father and nanny in TV's "Who's the Boss") I wonder if anyone has the exact quote and a trustworthy source. --82.171.70.54 18:24, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Me, too. --16:49, 19 January 2009

here's a source for the direct quote:

I think what we actually want is the HST quote referring to the "generation of dancers." I can't find it anywhere... anyone else?

Any luck finding the HST quote? It is now January 2015.

I saw this on Twitter by Jon Huber (@TheCrownedHeads) which might shed further light on the quote: "America is raising a generation of dancers, afraid to take one step out of line." - Hunter S. Thompson #CYOP" 9th June 2018

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The following unsourced statements have been removed to here from the main article. Please provide citations before re-adding them. ~ Ningauble 13:03, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Breakfast is the only meal of the day that I tend to view with the same kind of traditionalized reverence that most people associate with Lunch and Dinner. I like to eat breakfast alone, and almost never before noon; anybody with a terminally jangled lifestyle needs at least one psychic anchor every twenty-four hours, and mine is breakfast. In Hong Kong, Dallas or at home — and regardless of whether or not I have been to bed — breakfast is a personal ritual that can only be properly observed alone, and in a spirit of genuine excess. The food factor should always be massive: four Bloody Marys, two grapefruits, a pot of coffee, Rangoon crepes, a half-pound of either sausage, bacon, or corned beef hash with diced chiles, a Spanish omelette or eggs Benedict, a quart of milk, a chopped lemon for random seasoning, and something like a slice of Key lime pie, two margaritas, and six lines of the best cocaine for dessert…. Right, and there should also be two or three newspapers, all mail and messages, a telephone, a notebook for planning the next twenty-four hours and at least one source of good music…. All of which should be dealt with outside, in the warmth of a hot sun, and preferably stone naked.

 * "The third president, Thomas Jefferson, had a vision of America. He believed that this whole new country, this giant unformed continent offered a chance to start again. The premise was very simple. That human beings acting in a sense of enlightened self interest are smart enough to do the right thing and know the truth. America could have been a fantastic monument to all the best instincts of the human race. Instead, we just moved in here and destroyed the place from coast to coast like killer snails. Everybody wants power over a country that's had it's day. I think we're finished."

 * I have never been able to properly explain myself in this climate.
 * Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

 * Fear? I know not fear. There are only moments of confusion. Some of them are deeply stamped on my memory and a few will haunt me forever.
 * Kingdom of Fear

 * A word to the wise is infuriating.

 * Going to trial with a lawyer who considers your whole life-style a Crime in Progress is not a happy prospect.

 * Good people drink good beer.

 * I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me. **Variant: I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs, or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.

 * I have spent half my life trying to get away from journalism, but I am still mired in it — a low trade and a habit worse than heroin, a strange seedy world full of misfits and drunkards and failures.

 * If I'd written all the truth I knew for the past ten years, about 600 people — including me — would be rotting in prison cells from Rio to Seattle today. Absolute truth is a very rare and dangerous commodity in the context of professional journalism.

 * In the old days it was just a matter of being caught smoking cigarettes in the band room or drinking beer at lunchtime in the parking lot — and those crimes were serious, at the time, but they were not so serious as to get you expelled from the system forever. That is the hallmark of the Reagan Administration — a Punishment Ethic that permeates the whole infrastructure of American life and eventually gets down to George Orwell's notion, in Animal Farm, that "all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

 * Objective journalism is one of the main reasons American politics has been allowed to be so corrupt for so long. You can't be objective about Nixon.
 * I have re-added this one, with the source. Oktalist (talk) 19:33, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Publishers are notoriously slothful about numbers, unless they're attached to dollar signs — unlike journalists, quarterbacks, and felony criminal defendants who tend to be keenly aware of numbers at all times.

 * That was always the difference between Muhammad Ali and the rest of us. He came, he saw, and if he didn't entirely conquer — he came as close as anybody we are likely to see in the lifetime of this doomed generation.

 * The person who doesn't scatter the morning dew will not comb gray hairs.

 * There were other outlaws who missed the brass ring in the fifties. Lenny Bruce was one of them; he was never quite right for television. Bruce had tremendous potential until about 1961, when the people who had been getting such a kick out of him suddenly realized he was serious. -Hells Angels: A Strange and Terrible Saga

 * Myths and legends die hard in America. We love them for the extra dimension they provide, the illusion of near-infinite possibility to erase the narrow confines of most men's reality. Weird heroes and mould-breaking champions exist as living proof to those who need it that the tyranny of the rat race is not yet final.

 * Some may never live, but the crazy never die.

 * Pray to God, but row away from the rocks.

 * The last train out of any station will not be full of nice guys.

 * Politics is the art of controlling your environment. That is one of the key things I learned in these years, and I learned it the hard way. Anybody who thinks that 'it doesn't matter who's President' has never been Drafted and sent off to fight and die in a vicious, stupid War on the other side of the World — or been beaten and gassed by Police for trespassing on public property — or been hounded by the IRS for purely political reasons — or locked up in the Cook County Jail with a broken nose and no phone access and twelve perverts wanting to stomp your ass in the shower. That is when it matters who is President or Governor or Police Chief. That is when you will wish you had voted.

 * He knew who I was, at that time, because I had a reputation as a writer. I knew he was part of the Bush dynasty. But he was nothing, he offered nothing, and he promised nothing. He had no humour. He was insignificant in every way and consequently I didn't pay much attention to him. But when he passed out in my bathtub, then I noticed him. I'd been in another room, talking to the bright people. I had to have him taken away.
 * Thompson on George W. Bush

 * I heard the music, and I wrote to it. Some people beat drums. Some people strum guitars. It’s all in the music you hear.

 * It’s a stupid, dangerous, HELLISH world . . . But don’t let it FRIGHTEN you!!

 * Buy the ticket, take the ride.
 * I suspect this saying antedates Thompson by a generation or more. ~ Ningauble 14:07, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I feel the same way about disco as I do about herpes.
 * Speech given to the University of Colorado Student Union (1977-11-01)

 * There is no way to grasp what a shallow, contemptible and hopelessly dishonest old hack Hubert Humphrey is until you've followed him around for a while.

 * 'Bill Clinton does not inhale marijuana, right? You bet. Like I chew on LSD but I don't swallow it.

 * Three journalists have died in Baghdad... American troops are killing journalists in a profoundly foreign country, under cover of a war being fought for savage, greed-crazed reasons that most of them couldn't explain or even understand.

 * I have never had much faith in our embattled child President's decision-making powers... I know that is not what you want to hear/read at this time, especially if you happen to be serving in the doomsday mess that is currently the U.S. Army.

 * This is no time for the "leader of the free world" to be falling asleep at massively-popular sporting events. . .Was [Bush] drunk? Does he fear the sight of an uncovered nipple? Was he lying? Does he believe in his heart that there are more evangelical Christians in this country than football fans and sex-crazed yoyos with unstable minds? Is he really as dumb as he looks and acts? These are all unsatisfactory questions at a time like this.

 * Some people will say that words like scum and rotten are wrong for Objective Journalism — which is true, but they miss the point. It was the built-in blind spots of the Objective rules and dogma that allowed Nixon to slither into the White House in the first place. He looked so good on paper that you could almost vote for him sight unseen. He seemed so all-American, so much like Horatio Alger, that he was able to slip through the cracks of Objective Journalism. You had to get Subjective to see Nixon clearly, and the shock of recognition was often painful.
 * Better than Sex

 * “I unfortunately proved what I set out to prove, and it was more a political point than a local election, and I think the original reason was to prove it to myself, that the American Dream really is fucked.”
 * after losing the local election for sheriff

drawing
There must be a better free drawing or photo of Hunter S Thompson to use here? 130.166.74.86 00:52, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

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Iraqi legislative election, 2005

Two sets of legislative elections were held in the country of Iraq in 2005, in the months of January and December. The first was to draft the Iraqi Constitution, and the second to elect the first assembly under that constitution.

Quotes

 * The process as currently designed is little more than a 'bait and switch' ploy.

 * These elections mark an important step in the political reconstruction of Iraq. The strategy of terrorist groups has partly failed.
 * Jacques Chirac, in

 * [An] historic event for the Iraqi people because it is undoubtedly a step toward democratization of the country.
 * Vladimir Putin, in

 * In an impressive range of mainly Shiite and Kurdish cities, a long silenced majority of ordinary Iraqis defied threats of deadly mayhem to cast votes for a new, and hopefully democratic, political order. That is a message that all but the most nihilistic of the armed insurgents will have to accept.

 * So Iraq would appear the most infertile soil for democracy - except for one factor. The people want it. Yesterday, large numbers of them risked their lives to vote and in many cases they had to spend hours queuing; hours as potential targets. In so doing, they were not just making a political statement. They were making a moral statement. That should be a compelling argument even to those who oppose the war. It should be a conclusive argument to everyone who is in favour of peace.

 * What we were observing in Iraq on Sunday, as well as preparations preceding the elections, is very far from what true elections are. And even though I am a supporter of elections and of the transfer of power to the people of Iraq, these elections were fake. ... I don't think these elections will be of any use. They may even have a negative impact on the country. Democracy cannot be imposed or strengthened with guns and tanks.
 * Mikhail Gorbachev, in

title: Iraqi legislative election, 2005


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Candide

Candide (1759) is a satirical novel by Voltaire. It is about a young man, Candide, who is living a sheltered life in an Edenic paradise and being indoctrinated with Leibnizian optimism (or simply "optimism") by his mentor, Professor Pangloss. The work describes the abrupt cessation of this lifestyle, followed by Candide's slow and painful disillusionment as he witnesses and experiences great hardships in the world.

Quotes
Translation (ca. 1761–1765) by Tobias Smollett

 * Pangloss enseignait la métaphysico-théologo-cosmolo-nigologie. Il prouvait admirablement qu’il n’y a point d’effet sans cause, et que, dans ce meilleur des mondes possibles, le château de monseigneur le baron était le plus beau des châteaux et madame la meilleure des baronnes possibles. Il est démontré, disait-il, que les choses ne peuvent être autrement: car, tout étant fait pour une fin, tout est nécessairement pour la meilleure fin. Remarquez bien que les nez ont été faits pour porter des lunettes, aussi avons-nous des lunettes. Les jambes sont visiblement instituées pour être chaussées, et nous avons des chausses. Les pierres ont été formées pour être taillées, et pour en faire des châteaux, aussi monseigneur a un très beau château; le plus grand baron de la province doit être le mieux logé; et, les cochons étant faits pour être mangés, nous mangeons du porc toute l’année: par conséquent, ceux qui ont avancé que tout est bien ont dit une sottise; il fallait dire que tout est au mieux.
 * Master Pangloss taught the metaphysico-theologo-cosmolonigology. He could prove admirably that there is no effect without a cause, and in this best of all possible worlds the baron's castle was the most magnificent of all castles, and my lady the best of all possible baronesses. "It is demonstrable," said he, "that things cannot be otherwise than they are; for as all things have been created for some end, they must necessarily be created for the best end. Observe, for instance, the nose is formed for spectacles; therefore we wear spectacles. The legs are visibly designed for stockings; accordingly we wear stockings. Stones were made to be hewn and to construct castles; therefore my lord has a magnificent castle; for the greatest baron in the province ought to be the best lodged. Swine were intended to be eaten; therefore we eat pork all year round. And they who assert that everything is right, do not express themselves correctly; they should say that everything is best."
 * Ch. i; these remarks of Pangloss, which are a parody of the philosophy of Gottfried Leibniz, are often quoted in summarized form as Dans ce meilleur des mondes possibles, tout est au mieux. ("In this best of all possible worlds, everything is for the best." Variant: "All is for the best in the best of all possible worlds.") - Candide, translated by Henry Morley, p. 12,

 * Les malheurs particuliers font le bien général, de sorte que plus il y a de malheurs particuliers, et plus tout est bien.
 * Private misfortunes are public benefits; so that the more private misfortunes there are, the greater is the general good.
 * Pangloss, ch. iv

 * Après le tremblement de terre qui avait détruit les trois quarts de Lisbonne, les sages du pays n’avaient pas trouvé un moyen plus efficace pour prévenir une ruine totale que de donner au peuple un bel auto-da-fé; il était décidé par l’université de Coïmbre que le spectacle de quelques personnes brûlées à petit feu, en grande cérémonie, est un secret infaillible pour empêcher la terre de trembler... Le même jour la terre trembla de nouveau avec un fracas épouvantable.
 * After the earthquake, which had destroyed three-fourths of the city of Lisbon, the sages of that country could think of no means more effectual to preserve the kingdom from utter ruin than to entertain the people with an auto-da-fe, it having been decided by the University of Coimbra, that the burning of a few people alive by a slow fire, and with great ceremony, is an infallible preventive of earthquakes... The same day there was another earthquake, which made most dreadful havoc.

 * Si c’est ici le meilleur des mondes possibles, que sont donc les autres?
 * If this is the best of all possible worlds, what are the others?
 * Candide, ch. vi

 * Les captifs mes compagnons, ceux qui les avaient pris, soldats, matelots, noirs, basanés, blancs, mulâtres, et enfin mon capitaine, tout fut tué; et je demeurai mourante sur un tas de morts. Des scènes pareilles se passaient, comme on sait, dans l’étendue de plus de trois cents lieues, sans qu’on manquât aux cinq prières par jour ordonnées par Mahomet.
 * The captives, my companions, the Moors who took us, the soldiers, the sailors, the blacks, the whites, the mulattoes, and lastly, my captain himself, were all slain, and I remained alone expiring upon a heap of dead bodies. Similar barbarous scenes were transacted every day over the whole country, which is of three hundred leagues in extent, and yet they never missed the five stated times of prayer enjoined by their prophet Mahomet.
 * The old woman, ch. xi

 * Je voulus cent fois me tuer, mais j’aimais encore la vie. Cette faiblesse ridicule est peut-être un de nos penchants les plus funestes; car y a t-il rien de plus sot que de vouloir porter continuellement un fardeau qu’on veut toujours jeter par terre? d’avoir son être en horreur, et de tenir à son être? enfin de caresser le serpent qui nous dévore, jusqu’à ce qu’il nous ait mangé le coeur?
 * I have been a hundred times upon the point of killing myself, but still I was fond of life. This ridiculous weakness is, perhaps, one of the dangerous principles implanted in our nature. For what can be more absurd than to persist in carrying a burden of which we wish to be eased? to detest, and yet to strive to preserve our existence? In a word, to caress the serpent that devours us, and hug him close to our bosoms till he has gnawed into our hearts?
 * The old woman, ch. xii

 * Je suis le meilleur homme du monde, et voilà déjà trois hommes que je tue; et dans ces trois il y a deux prêtres!
 * I am the best man in the world, and yet I have already killed three men, and of these three, two were priests.
 * Candide, ch. xv

 * Si nous ne trouvons pas des choses agréables, nous trouverons du moins des choses nouvelles.
 * If we do not meet with agreeable things, we shall at least meet with something new.
 * Cacambo, ch. xvii

 * Qu’est-ce qu’optimisme? disait Cacambo. — Hélas! dit Candide, c’est la rage de soutenir que tout est bien quand on est mal.
 * "Optimism," said Cacambo, "what is that?" "Alas!" replied Candide, "it is the obstinacy of maintaining that everything is best when it is worst."
 * Ch. xix

 * Dans ce pays-ci il est bon de tuer de temps en temps un amiral pour encourager les autres.
 * In this country it is found requisite, now and then, to put an admiral to death, in order to encourage the others.
 * Ch. xxiii

 * Les sots admirent tout dans un auteur estimé. Je ne lis que pour moi; je n'aime que ce qui est à mon usage.
 * Ignorant readers are apt to judge a writer by his reputation. For my part, I read only to please myself. I like nothing but what makes for my purpose.
 * Pococurante, ch. xxv

 * Il est beau d’écrire ce qu’on pense; c’est le privilège de l’homme.
 * It is noble to write as we think; it is the privilege of humanity.
 * Pococurante, ch. xxv

 * Quand les deux curieux eurent pris congé de Son Excellence: Or çà, dit Candide à Martin, vous conviendrez que voilà le plus heureux de tous les hommes, car il est au-dessus de tout ce qu’il possède. — Ne voyez-vous pas, dit Martin, qu’il est dégoûté de tout ce qu’il possède? Platon a dit, il y a longtemps, que les meilleurs estomacs ne sont pas ceux qui rebutent tous les aliments. — Mais, dit Candide, n’y a-t-il pas du plaisir à tout critiquer, à sentir des défauts où les autres hommes croient voir des beautés? — C’est-à-dire, reprit Martin, qu’il y a du plaisir à n’avoir pas de plaisir?
 * As soon as our two travelers had taken leave of His Excellency, Candide said to Martin, "Well, I hope you will own that this man is the happiest of all mortals, for he is above everything he possesses." "But do not you see," answered Martin, "that he likewise dislikes everything he possesses? It was an observation of Plato, long since, that those are not the best stomachs that reject, without distinction, all sorts of food."  "True," said Candide, "but still there must certainly be a pleasure in criticising everything, and in perceiving faults where others think they see beauties."  "That is," replied Martin, "there is a pleasure in having no pleasure."
 * Ch. xxv

 * Il y avait dans le voisinage un derviche très fameux, qui passait pour le meilleur philosophe de la Turquie; ils allèrent le consulter; Pangloss porta la parole, et lui dit: Maître, nous venons vous prier de nous dire pourquoi un aussi étrange animal que l’homme a été formé. — De quoi te mêles-tu? dit le derviche, est-ce là ton affaire? — Mais, mon Révérend Père, dit Candide, il y a horriblement de mal sur la terre. — Qu’importe, dit le derviche, qu’il y ait du mal ou du bien? Quand sa Hautesse envoie un vaisseau en Égypte, s’embarrasse-t-elle si les souris qui sont dans le vaisseau sont à leur aise ou non? — Que faut-il donc faire? dit Pangloss. — Te taire, dit le derviche.
 * In the neighborhood lived a famous dervish who passed for the best philosopher in Turkey; they went to consult him: Pangloss, who was their spokesman, addressed him thus: "Master, we come to entreat you to tell us why so strange an animal as man has been formed?"  "Why do you trouble your head about it?" said the dervish; "is it any business of yours?"  "But, Reverend Father," said Candide, "there is a horrible deal of evil on the earth."  "What does it matter," said the dervish, "whether there is evil or good? When His Highness sends a ship to Egypt does he trouble his head whether the rats in the vessel are at their ease or not?"  "What must then be done?" said Pangloss.  "Be silent," answered the dervish.
 * Ch. xxx

 * Vous devez avoir, dit Candide au Turc, une vaste et magnifique terre? — Je n’ai que vingt arpents, répondit le Turc; je les cultive avec mes enfants; le travail éloigne de nous trois grands maux: l’ennui, le vice, et le besoin.
 * "You must certainly have a vast estate," said Candide to the Turk. "I have no more than twenty acres of ground," he replied, "the whole of which I cultivate myself with the help of my children; and our labor keeps off from us three great evils — idleness, vice, and want."
 * Ch. xxx

 * Travaillons sans raisonner, dit Martin; c’est le seul moyen de rendre la vie supportable.
 * "Work then without disputing," said Martin; "it is the only way to render life supportable."
 * Ch. xxx

 * Cela est bien dit, rèpondit Candide, mais il faut cultiver notre jardin.
 * "Excellently observed," answered Candide; "but let us cultivate our garden."
 * Candide, ch. xxx

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Talk:Creationism

Two truths

If God is almighty and not bound by time; I see no reason, why the story about the creation of the universe, as told in Genesis of the christian Bible, and the scientific story about the appearing of earth, life and man should not both be literally true.

I don't see this idea anywhere in the creation/evolution texts. I think it is an interesting concept to think about.

oh man, every man is entitled to an opinion but couldn't you just leave this place alone

Aldous Huxley misquoted.
The Huxley "quote" from "Confessions of a Professed Atheist" is misleading and deliberately misrepresents what Aldous Huxley thought. The whole "we objected to the morality" quote, represents a position Huxley had abandoned by the time he wrote "Ends and Means" in 1937 (the source of the quotation). Huxley no longer believed the world was "meaningless" when he wrote the essay, nor was Huxley an atheist, nor had he broken with traditional religion solely so he could indulge in sexual hedonism. The quotation seems to originate in the right-wing magazine "Report: News of the Month in Perspective" in 1966, when it appeared in a piece called "Confessions of a Professed Atheist". From there it has been repeated numerous times on Christian fundamentalist books, magazines and websites (often misattributed to Aldous' brother Julian ). This website explains how the Huxley misquote began:

http://etb-creationism.blogspot.com/2012/03/lies-creationists-tell-julian-huxley.html

[Note: this "correction" is so absolutely disingenuous. First off, Aldous DID write this in "Ends and Means." It makes no difference if he abandoned the belief that the world did not have meaning by the time he wrote the book. Creationists may be mistaken in saying, "Aldous Huxley believed the world had no meaning in order to be immoral," but if he was writing about a past-tense belief system he and friends adopted in order to live licentiously, their point is still valid - he and others had shed the idea that the world had meaning to be immoral. Furthermore, no he DID NOT break with the idea the world had meaning SOLELY for sexual reasons but also for political, but SO WHAT - the creationist is arguing he didn't want to believe in meaning so he could live in a sexually immoral way (and yet there the writer goes proving that this point was stated and believed by Huxley when he writes: "nor had he broken with traditional religion SOLELY so he could indulge in sexual hedonism." (capitals for emphasis)" It's foolish to point all this out to say he was misquoted by creationists when it clearly seems the point they were making - that people abandon God, Christianity, and meaningfulness in life so they may be their OWN gods - is clear in so many peoples' lives, INCLUDING Mr. Huxley's whether he later left such a position or not.]

Bogus Prigogine quotation
I removed a quotation supposedly from Ilya Prigogine et al, Physics Today. The quoted material does not appear in the cited article, but does appear frequently around the web on creationist sites. The text also incorrectly attributed two Nobel Prizes to Prigogine (he had one), and got both of the article's co-authors' names wrong.

Hofstadter quote

 * What turns a mere piece of matter from being mere matter into an animated being? What gives certain special physical patterns in the universe the mysterious privilege of feeling sensations and having experiences?

This question is attributed without source to D.R. Hofstadter. This is a legitimate question, which Hofstadter investigated. But I can find no evidence that he wrote exactly these words, merely sourceless quotations. Furthermore, quoting the questions without any hint of the answers (many developed by Hofstadter himself) incorrectly suggests that there are no answers. DanStyer (talk) 10:44, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Flew quote
Previous editions of this page included the following "quotes":

 * It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact that one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.

 * It now seems to me that the findings of more than fifty years of DNA research have provided materials for a new and enormously powerful argument to design.

 * Anthony Flew Professor of Philosophy, former atheist, author, and debater

I have moved these to "discussion" because:

 * Although these statements are attributed to Flew at several sites on the Internet, none of them provide a source.
 * Neither statement appears in the well-known work There Is a God by Antony Flew and Roy Abraham Varghese.
 * Flew's first name was Antony, not Anthony.
 * The first statement is certainly false ... there are many ways in which compact information storage could have evolved. [See, for example, Thomas D. Schneider, "Evolution of biological information", Nucleic Acids Research volume 28, issue 14, pages 2794-2799 (2000).]

Butler quote
Previous editions of this page included the following quote:

 * I attacked the foundations of morality in Erewhon, and nobody cared two straws, I tore open the wounds of my Redeemer as he hung upon the Cross in The Fair Haven, and people rather liked it. But when I attacked Mr. Darwin they were up in arms in a moment.
 * Samuel Butler, Evolution Old and New, 1879, p. 54.

I have moved this to "discussion" because:

 * The "attack" on Mr. Darwin IS the book Evolution, Old and New; Or, The Theories of Buffon, Dr. Erasmus Darwin, and Lamark, as Compared with that of Mr. Charles Darwin (1879). Because this book IS the attack, it can't say how people reacted to the attack.
 * This quote doesn't appear on page 54 of that book: see http://books.google.com/books?id=8NPgUBwX__QC&pg=PA54
 * It gives the impression that Butler was opposed to evolution, whereas in fact he was opposed to natural selection ... Butler held that evolution happened through some different mechanism.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Section moved to (renewed) Intelligent design -- Mdd (talk) 21:50, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

End of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District
Section moved to (renewed) Intelligent design -- Mdd (talk) 21:50, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Fine-tuning argument
Section moved to Fine-tuned Universe. -- Mdd (talk) 19:09, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Notability disputed

 * The following quotes have been removed from the article page to the talk page because
 * No evidence has been provided for the notability of the author (no Wikipedia article exists).
 * The source of the article is not a notable publication

 * Parasites in general and viruses like the zika virus in particular continue to be an embarrassment to creationists who insist everything is intelligently designed for a purpose... There is almost invariably some sort of arms race between parasite and host as the host gains a way to resist the parasite and the parasite gains a way to overcome this resistance, and so the cycle of resistance and overcoming resistance is repeated endlessly until some sort of balance is achieved or a symbiotic relationship emerges as the parasite provides some sort of benefit to the host in return for being tolerated. The embarrassment is of course in explaining why an designer let alone an intelligent one would bat for both sides in this arms race and why it would have designed a parasite then redesigned a host to resist it in the first place.
 * Rosa Rubicondior, "Has The 'Intelligent Designer' Been Tweaking Zika?", 1 October 2016

 * Probably because it was intelligently designed to do just that, the term 'kind' as used by creationists is so nebulous that it can mean whatever they need it to mean. The meaning can change at will according to the audience they are trying to get away with using it on or the debate they are trying to win with tactics because they don't have any evidence. It's almost perfectly designed to allow word play and subtle changes in debate barely noticeable by an unsuspecting audience.
 * Rosa Rubicondior, "Hey Creationists! What Kind Of Kind Is This?", 2 December 2016

What to include from the Scopes Monkey Trial.
I've recently been reminded of the 250 word limit for quotes and was wondering how to edit the conclusion of the 7th day of the scopes monkey trial down to an acceptable limit, as it's relavent to the topic, very thorough in addressing creationism and remains highly notable. The following is the best I've managed to do yet it's still 3 times the limit at 750 words, (including the names of the speakers).

 * Darrow: Mr. Bryan, do you believe that the first woman was Eve?
 * Bryan: Yes.
 * Darrow: Do you believe she was literally made out of Adam's rib?
 * Bryan: I do.
 * Darrow: Did you ever discover where Cain got his wife?
 * Bryan: No, sir. I leave the agnostics to hunt for her.
 * Darrow: You have never found out?
 * Bryan: I have never tried to find out.
 * Darrow: You have never tried to find out?
 * Bryan: No.
 * Darrow: The Bible says he got one, doesn't it? Were there other people on the earth at that time?
 * Bryan: I cannot say.
 * Darrow: You cannot say. Did that ever enter your consideration?
 * Bryan: Never bothered me.
 * Darrow: There were no others recorded, but Cain got a wife.
 * Bryan: That is what the Bible says.
 * Darrow: Where she came from you do not know. All right. Does the statement, "The morning and the evening were the first day," and "The morning and the evening were the second day," mean anything to you?
 * Bryan: I do not think it necessarily means a 24-hour day.
 * Darrow: You do not?
 * Bryan: No.
 * Darrow: What do you consider it to be?
 * Bryan: I have not attempted to explain it. If you will take the second chapter--let me have the book. [Reaches for a Bible.] The fourth verse of the second chapter says: "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth, when they were created in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens," the word day there in the very next chapter is used to describe a period. I do not see that there is any necessity for construing the words, "the evening and the morning," as meaning necessarily a 24-hour day, "in the day when the Lord made the heaven and the earth."
 * Darrow: Then, when the Bible said, for instance, "and God called the firmament heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day," that does not necessarily mean twenty-four hours?
 * Bryan: I do not think it necessarily does.
 * Darrow: Do you think it does or does not?
 * Bryan: I know a great many think so.
 * Darrow: What do you think?
 * Bryan: I do not think it does.
 * Darrow: You think those were not literal days?
 * Bryan: I do not think they were twenty-four-hour days.
 * Darrow: What do you think about it?
 * Bryan: That is my opinion--I do not know that my opinion is better on that subject than those who think it does.
 * Darrow: You do not think that?
 * Bryan: No. But I think it would be just as easy for the kind of God we believe in to make the earth in six days as in six years or in 6 million years or in 600 million years. I do not think it important whether we believe one or the other.
 * Darrow: Do you think those were literal days?
 * Bryan: My impression is they were periods, but I would not attempt to argue against anybody who wanted to believe in literal days.
 * Darrow: I will read it to you from the Bible: "And the Lord God said unto the serpent, because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life." Do you think that is why the serpent is compelled to crawl upon its belly?
 * Bryan: I believe that.
 * Darrow: Have you any idea how the snake went before that time?
 * Bryan: No, sir.
 * Darrow: Do you know whether he walked on his tail or not?
 * Bryan: No, sir. I have no way to know. (Laughter.)
 * Darrow: Now, you refer to the cloud that was put in heaven after the flood, the rainbow. Do you believe in that?
 * Bryan: Read it.
 * Darrow: All right, Mr. Bryan, I will read it for you.
 * Bryan: Your Honor, I think I can shorten this testimony. The only purpose Mr. Darrow has is to slur at the Bible, but I will answer his question. I will answer it all at once, and I have no objection in the world. I want the world to know that this man, who does not believe in a God, is trying to use a court in Tennessee to slur at it, and while it will require time, I am willing to take it.
 * Darrow: I object to your statement. I am examining you on your fool ideas that no intelligent Christian on earth believes.
 * Clarence Darrow's examination of William Jennings Bryan at the 1925 Scopes trial Scopes Trial Day 7

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Gospel of Thomas

The Gospel of Thomas is one of the Gnostic Gospels, dated to around the 3rd century but lost in modern times until it was rediscovered in a cave near Nag Hammadi in 1945.

The author of the Gospel of Thomas discovered at Nag Hammadi in 1945 is unknown, but is identified in the text as Didymos Judas Thomas, and this is generally regarded to be Thomas the Apostle. It consists primarily of sayings, said to be those of Jesus, with a few framing anecdotes associated with some of them.

Quotes

 * The Gospel of Thomas, translated by Thomas O. Lambdin. The Gnostic Society Library.

 * Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds, he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled, he will be astonished, and he will rule over the All.
 * 2

 * If those who lead you say, 'See, the Kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the Kingdom is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty and it is you who are that poverty.
 * 3

 * The person old in days will not hesitate to ask a little child of seven days concerning the place of life.
 * 4

 * '''Do not tell lies, and do not do what you hate, for all things are plain in the sight of Heaven. For nothing hidden will not become manifest, and nothing covered will remain without being uncovered.
 * 6

 * I have cast fire upon the world — and behold, I guard it until it is ablaze.
 * 10; as quoted in Studies in the Gospel of Thomas  (1960) by Robert McLachlan Wilson
 * Variant translations:
 * I have cast fire upon the world, and see, I am watching over it until it blazes.
 * As translated by Bentley Layton

 * This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die.
 * 11

 * Thou art like a philosopher of the heart.
 * 13, Matthew’s words to Yeshua

 * I am not your teacher. Because you have drunk, you have become intoxicated from the bubbling spring that I have tended.
 * 13, words to Thomas

 * The Disciples say to Yeshua: Tell us how our end shall be. Yeshua says: Have you then discovered the origin, so that you inquire about the end? For at the place where the origin is, there shall be the end. Blest is he who shall stand at the origin
 * 18

 * When you make the two one,
 * and when you make the inside like the outside
 * and the outside like the inside,
 * and the above like the below,
 * and when you make the male
 * and the female one and the same
 * so that the male not be male nor the female female
 * and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,
 * and a hand in place of a hand,
 * and a foot in place of a foot,
 * and a likeness in place of a likeness;
 * then will you enter the kingdom.
 * 22

 * Within a person of light there is light, and he illumines the entire world. When he does not shine, there is darkness.
 * 24

 * Unless ye fast from the world, ye shall not find the Sovereignty; unless ye keep the entire week as Sabbath, ye shall not behold the Father.
 * 27

 * I found them all drunk, I found no one among them athirst in his heart. And my soul was grieved for the sons of men, for they are blind in their minds and do not see that empty they have come into the world and that empty they are destined to come forth from the world.
 * 28

 * Whoever blasphemes against the Father will be forgiven, and whoever blasphemes against the Son will be forgiven, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven either on earth or in heaven.
 * 44

 * His disciples say to him, … when will the New World come? He says to them: That which you look for has already come, but you do not recognize it.
 * 51

 * Behold the Living-One while you are alive, lest you die and seek to perceive him and be unable to see.
 * 59

 * He who knows the All but fails to know himself lacks everything.
 * 67

 * When you bring forth that which is within yourselves, this that you have shall save you. If you do not have that within yourselves, this which you do not have within you will kill you.
 * 70

 * It is I who am the light which is above them all. It is I who am the all. From me did the all come forth, and unto me did the all extend. Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there.
 * 77

 * Your rulers and your dignitaries are those who are clad in plush garments, and they shall not be able to recognize the truth.
 * 78

 * Whoever has recognized the world has found the body; yet whoever has found the body, of him the world is not worthy.
 * 80

 * Why do you wash the outside of the chalice? Do you not comprehend that He who creates the inside, is also He who creates the outside?
 * 89

 * You read the face of the sky and of the earth, but you have not recognized the one who is before you, and you do not know how to read this moment.
 * 91

 * The Sovereignty of the Father is like a woman who is carrying a jar full of grain. While she was walking on a distant road, the handle of the jar broke, the grain streamed out behind her onto the road. She did not observe it, she had noticed no accident. When she arrived in her house, she set the jar down—she found it empty.
 * 97

 * Whoever has found the world and become enriched, let him renounce the world.
 * 110

 * Woe to the flesh which depends upon the soul, woe to the soul which depends upon the flesh!
 * 112

 * His disciples said to Him, "When will the Kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is.' Rather, the Kingdom of the Father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."
 * 113

Quotes about the Gospel of Thomas

 * Yet the gnostic Gospel of Thomas relates that as soon as Thomas recognizes him, Jesus says to Thomas that they have both received their being from the same source . . . Does not such teaching—the identity of the divine and human, the concern with illusion and enlightenment, the founder who is presented not as Lord, but as spiritual guide—sound more Eastern than Western? Some scholars have suggested that if the names were changed, the 'living Buddha' appropriately could say what the Gospel of Thomas attributes to the living Jesus. Could Hindu or Buddhist tradition have influenced gnosticism?
 * Elaine Pagels. Quoted from Malhotra, R., Nīlakantan, A. (Princeton, N.J.). (2011). Breaking India: Western interventions in Dravidian and Dalit faultlines

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George Stephanopoulos

George Robert Stephanopoulos (born February 10, 1961) is an American television host, political commentator, and former Democratic advisor. Stephanopoulos currently is chief anchor and political correspondent on ABC News, and a coanchor with Robin Roberts and Michael Strahan on Good Morning America, and host of This Week, ABC's Sunday morning current events news program.

Before his career as a journalist, Stephanopoulos was an advisor to the Democratic Party. He rose to early prominence as a communications director for the 1992 presidential campaign of Bill Clinton and subsequently became White House communications director. He was later senior advisor for policy and strategy, before departing in December 1996.

Quotes

 * The President has kept all the promises he intended to keep.
 * Larry King Live, CNN (February 16, 1996).
 * Quoted in What Really Happened: the Story of Clinton Inc.'s Efforts to Rewrite Bill By Kevin Groenhagen, p. 82

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Talk:Gospel of Thomas

The Gospel of Thomas is a very important document, but if a public domain or GNU FDL version of the complete document were to be provided, it belongs at Wikisource, not at Wikiquote. Most existing translations of the Greek and Coptic fragments into English are not in the public domain. The existing page for Jesus Christ was originally set up with a structure that quotes from many of the major passages of the Thomas Gospel, and with links to sites that do provide several major translations in their entirety. This Page should probably be made into a redirect to the Thomas portion of that page. The complete text, or the major portion of any copyrighted text do not belong on WIkiquote. ~ Kalki 02:25, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

The text that was originally posted on this page appears to be the entire 1988 translation by Thomas Lambdin, and thus a violation of copyright, and Wikimedia policies. I am changing it into a redirect to the portion of the Thomas portion of the page for quotes of Jesus Christ, which provides quotes from that translation. That page also contains links to pages with the Lambdin translation, as well as others. ~ Kalki 12:16, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Charlotte's Web (1973 film)

Charlotte's Web is a 1973 American animated musical film produced by Paramount Pictures, Hanna-Barbera Productions and Sagittarius Productions and based upon the 1952 children's book of the same name by E. B. White. The film, like the book, is about a pig named Wilbur who befriends an intelligent spider named Charlotte who saves him from being slaughtered.
 * Directed by Charles A. Nichols and Iwao Takamoto. Written by E.B. White (book) and Earl Hamner Jr. (story).

That humble, radiant, terrific book is now a humble, radiant, terrific movie. taglines

Narrator

 * This old world is filled with wonders, but to me there's no place more wonderful than a farm in springtime, when the sun is just lifting on the skyline. The air is so sweet, and everywhere you look, little miracles are happening. Buds swell into blossoms, eggs hatch, young are born. Everything's off to a fresh start, and life is good and busy and brand-new. Around a barnyard, big families are a blessing. The more, the merrier. Root and grunt, push and shove, room for everybody. Well, everybody except the runt. John Arabel had been up since daybreak. He'd seen the size of the pig, and he wasn't looking forward to what had to be done.

Wilbur

 * Then, write this in your webs when, you learn. This hallowed doorway was once the home of Charlotte. She was brilliant, beautiful, and loyal to the end.

The Goose

 * [to Templeton] You'll worry alright when winter comes! If Wilbur is killed, and his trough stands empty, then you'll grow so thin we can look right through your stomach and see objects on the other side!

 * [after Wilbur asks the Goose if she would like to play with him] I'm no flibberty-ibberty-gibbit! I'm staying here and hatching my goslings!

Templeton

 * The goose was right! This fair is rat's paradise! Bye, bye, my "humble" Wilbur! Fare thee well, Charlotte, you old schemer! This will be a night to remember!

Dialogue
( music playing )

 * Avery Arable: Can I have a pig too, Pop?
 * John Arable: I only distribute pigs to early risers. Fern was up at daylight, trying to rid the world of injustice. [Avery's frog escapes his jacket and jumps all over the breakfast table] Seems to me you've already got more wildlife than you can take care of, Avery.

 * Wilbur: [singing] Isn't it great that I articulate?/Isn't it grand that you can understand?/I don't grunt/I don't oink/I don't even squeak or squawk/When I wanna say a-somethin', I open up and talk! I can talk! I can talk, talk, talk, I can...
 * Old Sheep: Why don't you keep it down?
 * Wilbur: I can talk!

 * Wilbur: [to a lamb] Wanna play?
 * Lamb: [to an old sheep] May I, Papa?
 * Old Sheep: Certainly not. In the first place, you can't get out of your pen. In the second place, sheep do not play with pigs.
 * Wilbur: Why not?
 * Old Sheep: Oh, it's a matter of status. Sheep, for instance, are highly regarded by Zuckerman, because we furnish him with good quality wool. With pigs, on the other hand, it's just a matter of time.
 * Wilbur: Before what?
 * Old Sheep: Before you're fat enough to kill.
 * Wilbur: [incredulously] What did you say?!
 * Old Sheep: Oh, everybody knows it. In the fall, you'll be turned into smoked bacon and ham. And then, just as soon as winter sets in, they'll kill you.
 * Wilbur: Ohh! [faints]
 * Goose: Templeton.
 * Templeton: Hmm.

 * Wilbur: [about Zuckerman raising him to be slaughtered] Is it true what the old sheep says? Is that awful thing true?!
 * Goose: It's a dirty-irty trick, but it's true.
 * Wilbur: I don't want to die! I want to stay here in my warm manure pile! I want to breathe the beautiful air, and lie in the beautiful sun!
 * Old Sheep: [dryly] You're certainly making a beautiful noise.
 * Wilbur: [breaking into tears] I don't want to die! I don't want to die!
 * Charlotte: [speaking for the first time, this time from an unseen location] Quiet, Wilbur! Now chin up!
 * Wilbur: Who said that?
 * Charlotte: Do you want a friend?
 * Wilbur: Yes, I want a friend. But I want to live, too!
 * Charlotte: Well, chin up. I'll be your friend and I'll try to save your life. I've been watching you, and I like you.
 * Wilbur: I can't see you. What do you mean "chin up"?
 * Charlotte: Now go to sleep. You'll see me in the morning, and I'll explain everything then.
 * Narrator: Wilbur's stomach was empty, and his mind was full. And when your stomach is empty and your mind is full, it's always hard to sleep. But sleep and Wilbur finally found each other.

 * Charlotte: Salutations.
 * Wilbur: Salu-what?
 * Charlotte: Salutations.
 * Wilbur: What are they? And where are you?
 * Charlotte: Salutations are greetings. It's my fancy way of saying hello. Look up here in the doorway.

 * [After the goose's eggs have hatched]
 * Wilbur: Congratulations! How many are there?
 * Goose: There are seven.
 * Charlotte: Seven is a lucky number.
 * Goose: [proudly] Luck had absolutely nothing to do with it! It was really good management and hard work.
 * Templeton: [looking at a solitary unhatched egg] Why didn't, uh, this one hatch?
 * The Goose: [gloomily] It's a dud, I guess.
 * Templeton: What are you going to do with it?
 * The Goose: [sternly] You can have it! Roll it away and add it to that nasty collection of yours! Be careful! A rotten egg can be a regular stink bomb!
 * Templeton: [patting the egg] I know what I'm doing. I handle stuff like this all the time. [And with that, Templeton rolls the egg away.]

 * Avery: Why isn't that gosling with his mother?
 * [Jeffrey runs to Wilbur]
 * Fern: Because he likes Wilbur.
 * Avery: Shrimpy little thing. [Jeffrey oinks like a pig at Avery] Sounds more like a pig than a gosling.
 * [Jeffrey oinks like a pig again and looks proud of himself]
 * Avery: [noticing Charlotte] Wow! Look at that big spider! I'm gonna catch it for my collection!
 * Fern: Avery, you leave that spider alone!''
 * Avery: That's a fine spider and I'm catching it! What's the matter with you, Wilbur?
 * Fern: He doesn't like you in there. Now, get out!

 * [Charlotte is looking for a new message to write in her web]
 * Lamb: How about "Pig Supreme"?
 * Charlotte: No good. It sounds like a rich dessert.
 * Goose: How about terrific, terrific, terrific?
 * Charlotte: Cut that down to one terrific and it will do nicely. I think terrific might impress Zuckerman.
 * Wilbur: But Charlotte, I'm not terrific.
 * Charlotte: You're terrific as far as I am concerned. [Templeton hits Wilbur in the face with his tail as he walks by; Charlotte glares at him] Does anybody know how to spell it?
 * Goose: I think it's T, double-E double-R, double-R, double-I, double-F, double-I, double-C-C-C.
 * Charlotte: What kind of an acrobat do you think I am? It would take me all night to write that.
 * Old Sheep: I'd advise you not to consult geese in matters of spelling. The word is spelled T-E-R-R-I-F-I-C.
 * The Goose: [firmly] I still think it's prettier spelled: T, double-E, double-R, double-R, double-I-
 * Charlotte: Please! Let me spell it my way.

Cast

 * Henry Gibson - Wilbur
 * Debbie Reynolds - Charlotte A. Cavatica
 * Paul Lynde - Templeton
 * Agnes Moorehead - The Goose
 * Pamelyn Ferdin - Fern Arable
 * Bob Holt - Homer Zuckerman
 * Joan Gerber - Edith Zuckerman
 * John Stephenson - John Arable
 * Danny Bonaduce - Avery Arable
 * Don Messick - Jeffrey
 * William B. White - Henry Fussy
 * Martha Scott - Jane Arable
 * Herb Vigran - Lurvy
 * Dave Madden - Ram
 * Rex Allen - the Narrator

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Talk:The Catcher in the Rye

Terribly Inane quotes, missing more critical ones
This page is a terrible representation of Salinger's narrative. Certain themes and symbols in the book are mentioned more than once, ('fuck you') while the most critical parts (ducks, carousel, egyptian tomb) weren't mentioned at all. Somehow, despite this, a few of the most parts of the book recieved mention, sometimes more than once. I'm not touching this with a four foot pole, but please, won't someone do Salinger some justice?

--Agreed. Its even missing some of the most important, such as "I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddam stupid useless conversations with anybody." Thats on the main wikipedia page, but not the wikiquote page.

 * I just added the quote from Chapter 25 mentioned in the Wikipedia article and a bit more beside. If you feel the article lacks a significant quote, why don't you simply add it, rather than merely complaining about it? I also added one from Chapter 17: "You never saw so many phonies in all your life, everybody smoking their ears off and talking about the play so that everybody could hear and know how sharp they were." ~ Achilles 21:39, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

yes but holden is a good guy stuck in a bad world a world for which he seeks to fit in.

Not trying to complain or anything, but do we really need to have a picture of a giraffe? Is that entire box, giraffe and all, really nessesary? SgtHydra 71.111.82.176 01:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree, the pictures are useless, and detract from the novel, as it is a novel and not a picture book. No doubt Salinger would see these pictures as being phony, and so many is no doubt against wiki guidelines, they need removing.

I can't agree more about the uselessness of the pictures. Salinger specifically requested not to have any picture on the main covers of his books... Having silly, literal and inaccurate illustrations for every quote taken out of context feels very wrong...

Digression
A few quotes from his novel seem a bit relevant here: clipping out a section from the page:

 * That digression business got on my nerves. I don't know. The trouble with me is, I like it when somebody digresses. It's more interesting and all.

 * Oh, sure! I like somebody to stick to the point and all. But I don't like them to stick too much to the point. I don't know. I guess I don't like it when somebody sticks to the point all the time. The boys that got the best marks in Oral Expression were the ones that stuck to the point all the time — I admit it. But there was this one boy, Richard Kinsella. He didn't stick to the point too much, and they were always yelling 'Digression!' at him. It was terrible, because in the first place, he was a very nervous guy — I mean he was a very nervous guy — and his lips were always shaking whenever it was his time to make a speech, and you could hardly hear him if you were sitting way in the back of the room. When his lips sort of quit shaking a little bit, though, I liked his speeches better than anybody else's.

(But I digress...) ~ Ω 12:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

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