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Talk:George Galloway

i am looking for a link to corroborate the Galloway quote. At present I can only find his denials. Perhaps someone could look at a Times archive? This should be available in an English University.

 * Huh? His denials? Link? As far as I know, there's no dispute over the exact words, but the audio and/or newspaper transcript isn't online. I added the note at start because this text doesn't seem to be available anywhere beside blogs and message boards, therefore wikiquote shouldn't host it as if it's verified and thus allow others to link to wikiquote and give the impression that it's a credible source. As far as I know, Galloway doesn't deny the actual words, but he said that by "Sir: I salute..." he didn't mean to refer to Saddam, but rather to the Iraqi people, and he should have used better words there. Please post here links with any other relevant info. iddo999 01:21, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The last occasion he disputed the reporting of the "I salute" quote was in a brodcast interview on BBC Hardtalk. Galloway states over and over in the interview that he has been misquoted and that he was in fact saluting the Iraqi people. viewable here Made a note of that fact in the article.

 * Nice interview. Funny that the interviewer said that he read this speech on the internet... Probably he read it here or on some weird blog or message board, because reliable websites carrying this speech still don't seem to exist. The following questions remain: (1) are the words here the same as those printed in the Times 1994 article? I guess they are, but I haven't seen evidence for this either. (2) if they are, did that article specify how exactly it got hold of that speech, i.e. maybe via a BBC radio broadcast or something like that? (3) If it is indeed claimed that there's audio evidence that these words are accurate, is it possible to get this evidence? (4) are there reliable witnesses who were present during this speech and claim that it's accurate?
 * Without evidence to (1), we should probably just delete the whole thing. If (2) is false, maybe we should keep it and mention that there aren't any reliable sources that can verify it. iddo999 09:35, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Its not like Galloway disputes he gave the speech, although who knows what speech text Sackur was talking about. Galloway seems fairly confident such a speech text does not exist. His comments on the quote are: "Secondly, I did not salute his [Hussain's] courage, strength and indefatigability, I saluted the Iraqi peoples courage, strength and indefatigability which if you saw the whole of the speech you would know to be true." Sackur breaks and theres a back and forth then Galloway goes on to say: "If you had read the whole speech you would know that the 'your', Y-O-U-R in question, was the Iraqi people."

 * In making my edit I used the word misquote to describe Galloways complaint. From the 2nd vieweing of the Sackur interview im not sure if Galloway disputes the quote of the word "Sir" prefacing the salute statement OR he claims the speech is taken out of context. Having checked for other comments I think the latter;
 * "I had intended to salute - and, as far as I was concerned, had saluted - not Saddam Hussein or his regime in Baghdad but the 'courage, strength and indefatigability' of the Iraqi people. With hindsight, I can see my choice of words was unfortunate." Speaking to Jasper Gerard of the Sunday Times, he elaborated. "He says [writes Gerard] he should have used the 'old-fashioned Scottish word yoos, rather than you', to show his tribute was to the country, not its leader."

 * So in comments to the Sunday Times he is not disputing that part of the quote but how it was (in his view) misconstrued. A source where Galloway states or agrees on the text (or a part of the text) of what he reportedly said might do. A reliable transcipt/recording would be best- then readers can discover the context Galloway mentions. Either way its probably only fair to include a quote from Galloway in which he makes his complaint. On sources; I dont consider MEMRI reliable in anyway. MEMRI's frequent mistranslation of Arabic and heavy editing of english language interviews given to mideast broadcasters goes way beyond any 'institutional/cultural bias' that might be found in BBC World Service/Times reporting.

 * Hmm the clown in your guardian link isn't reliable either, but if indeed Galloway confirmed that all of the words by themselves are accurate, that would be the most simple way to settle it. Maybe someone could ask him, on his radio show or via email or something? iddo999 20:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

It still seems to be the case that only wikiquote is carrying the transcript of this speech (i.e. no reliable websites have it), even though the BBC appears to have the full video footage (see and ). This transcript was added anonymously to wikiquote 4 years ago, and it's unclear whether or not it's accurate. What comes after "courage, strength and indefatigability" in this transcript differs from the video footage on youtube, though it's quite possible that the video was cut at that point and an earlier segment (that indeed appears in this transcript) of the speech was inserted. So in particular the ending of this transcript may or may not be accurate. The policy of wikiquote (and wikipedia) is to cite only reliable sources (especially in the case of living people), so unfortunately we might have to remove this transcript (and replace it with just that famous one-line "I salute..." quote), unless a reliable source for this transcript can be found. iddo999 14:55, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Philip Cross should not be editing the article George Galloway
has been a valuable editor at Wikiquote, contributing much good material and good sense. Nevertheless, he should not edit this article, per Wikipedia's COIBLP: "[A]n editor who is involved in a significant controversy or dispute with another individual ... should not edit that person's biography or other material about that person, given the potential conflict of interest." Wikipedia has already been significantly and publicly embarrassed by Cross on this issue. I had privately sent email to Cross about this, asking him to stop editing this article, to avoid public embarrassment. Instead, 18 edits to this article today, 11 on February 14, etc. The en-wiki topic bans don't apply here, but I believe COIBLP does. HouseOfChange (talk) 21:12, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

 * I disagree Ottawahitech (talk) 20:33, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

 * I have not seen any confirmation in twelve days on the point HouseOfChange makes. In fact, it has gained no response on the administrator's noticeboard. Philip Cross (talk) 13:35, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

 * And User talk:HouseOfChange made another plea two days later with the same result: no response. Galloway's 1994 speech to Saddam Hussein (cut by HouseofChange in its entirety on 20 February) and his 2012 defence of Julian Assange (the most quoted part also removed by HouseOfChange on the same date), are surely the most essential comments by Galloway to include in this page, still much quoted. The deletion of this material is bad practice and George Galloway might well choose to remove such material himself, if he could. Philip Cross (talk) 20:01, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I cut those two lengthy "quotes" because they seemed verbose and "unquotable" to me. I did it without realizing that two particular bits of what I removed were short quotes treasured by critics of Galloway. When PC restored the beloved bit of the Saddam talk ("Sir, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability,") I had no objection. Similarly, when PC restored the beloved bit of the Assange talk ("not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion"), I also had no objection. If you look at my  Wikipedia userpage, you can see that I have often in the past "tried to maintain NPOV, BLP, and WEIGHT" on a lot of BLPs there. I had a similar motivation to undo the misuse of Wikiquote as a free web-hosting service to the reprehensible state of the George Galloway article as of February 16, 2024, when I made my first edit to it. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Rushdie
The quote about his opinion on the ban of Salman Rushdie's novel seem quotable to me. His opinion on a significant contemporary matter is both interesting and worth quoting.

If there’s any issue with editorializing, simply omit the commentary. On some new pages a lot of commentary is added which are not part of the quotes. Adding personal commentary tends to be pov pushing.

To reduce the issue of editorializing and bias, one can simply exclude the personal commentary.

They have a right to expect some genuflection towards what they feel. To publish a paperback would cause an unnecessary distress to a large and significant and vulnerable section of our society. ᘙ (talk) 11:15, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
 * [Galloway had described the UK's laws on blasphemy (then still on the statute book) as an "anachronism"] All faiths must be prepared to be as rigorously tested as each other and none can expect a special hiding place behind the law.
 * [As part of The Satanic Verses controversy, there was a debate in the UK on the desirability of publishing a paperback edition of Salman Rushdie's novel] I'm arguing this should not be published, not because of the threats but because of the offence that it has caused to the majority of Muslims.
 * As cited in "We ask MPs where they stand", The Independent on Sunday (11 February 1990), p. 22

 * The quote specifically refers to the paperback edition, not the initial publication in hardback or Ayatollah Khomeini's fatwa, which George Galloway appears to have made no sourced comment about at the time. Philip Cross (talk) 11:45, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

 * The quote makes it clear that it refers to the censorship of the paperback edition. IMHO this still makes the quote interesting and quotable. --ᘙ (talk) 11:49, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Oops thanks, my mistake. Sorry for my foolish deletion of your comments. Philip Cross (talk) 12:01, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I accept the suggestion to restore the two actual Galloway quotes minus the POV-pushing commentary. But I disagree that "quotable" means "worth quoting" in the sense of being important, informative, true, relevant, etc. This is WikiQuote, not WikiGoodIdeas or WikiInformationSnippets. "Quotability" implies artfulness, originality, cleverness of expression. Remarks that have been widely quoted, such as Galloway's various gaffes, qualify as quotable by default. HouseOfChange (talk) 17:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

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George VI of the United Kingdom

George VI of the United Kingdom (Albert Frederick Arthur George Windsor) (14 December 1895 – 6 February 1952) was the British monarch from 1936 to 1952. He ascended to the throne after his brother Edward VIII abdicated to marry Wallis Simpson. He served as monarch as the British Empire experienced the Great Depression, World War II, and the beginning of the Cold War. He also oversaw the beginning of decolonization, serving as the last Emperor of India and the first head of the Commonwealth of Nations. He was succeeded by his daughter Elizabeth II, and is the grandfather of the United Kingdom's current head of state Charles III.

Quotes

 * You've been pretty unlucky with the weather, Mr Piper.
 * On seeing John Piper's dark views of Windsor Castle painted during the last war. Given in Times Literary Supplement, 7 October 1994, page 25.

 * In order that they should be worthily and promptly recognised, I have decided to create, at once, a new mark of honour for men and women in all walks of civilian life. I propose to give my name to this new distinction, which will consist of the George Cross, which will rank next to the Victoria Cross, and the George Medal for wider distribution.
 * Announcement made on 24 September 1940, establishing the George Cross medal to reward civilian acts of the highest courage.

 * We are not a family, we are a firm.
 * On the Royal family, quoted by A. B. Baxter in Destiny Called to Them (Oxford University Press, 1939)

 * The highest of distinctions is service to others.
 * Taken from the British Royal Family History website,

Quotes about George VI

 * King George VI was always remarkably well informed, and I made a point of reading the latest telegrams before my weekly audience with him. A conscientious, constitutional monarch is a strong element of stability and continuity in our Constitution.
 * Clement Attlee, address to the Oxford University Law Society (14 June 1957), quoted in The Times (15 June 1957), p. 4

 * The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave.
 * Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother, in a public declaration in the early years of World War II. Sourced from the British Royal Family History website.

 * During his stay in London King was presented to King George VI at Buckingham Palace. His Majesty, wearing the uniform of an admiral of the fleet, received King in a sitting room where he was at work on papers. Whiskey or tea was offered, and as King had given up spirits for the duration of the war, he gladly accepted the tea, which was ready. The King reminisced agreeably about his cruises in the Royal Navy, and asked the admiral about his own with such tact that the audience, in retrospect, resembled a chat between a couple of old sailors.
 * Ernest King and Walter M. Whitehill, Fleet Admiral King: A Naval Record (1952), p. 405-406

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Kerry Packer

Kerry Francis Bullmore Packer AC (17 December 1937 – 26 December 2005) was an Australian billionaire media magnate. He owned the Nine Network, and is famous for introducing World Series Cricket in 1977, together with a more dynamic form of television coverage. At the time of his death he was the wealthiest man in Australia.

Print Media Inquiry (1991)
Packer was called to appear before the Australian Federal Parliament "Print Media Inquiry" (chairman Michael Lee) in November 1991. The various serves he gave the senators prompted many supportive calls to talkback radio and letters to newspapers the following day.

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User talk:64.12.116.131

~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Mojahedin-e Khalgh

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The result was: Consensus to remove from Wikiquote, but not how. — Jeffq 17:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Mojahedin-e Khalgh
Encyclopedic stub. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 12:28 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: Consensus to remove from Wikiquote, but not how (1 Delete; 1 Transwiki; no dissent). Moved to "Pending" section in WQ:VFDA, where it can be transwikied and then speedy-deleted by policy, accomplishing both goals. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:01, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 12:28 (UTC)
 * Transwiki to Wikipedia, which has no article by this title. Appears to have been created from a red link in Ruhollah Khomeini. I've redirected all non-quote links from that article to WP. — Jeff Q (talk) 01:11, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * UPDATE: Deleted 02:34, 15 September 2005 (UTC) by me. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:44, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Netcraft

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The result was: deleted. ~ Kalki

Netcraft
I believe this page (Netcraft) should be deleted. Though articles in magazines, newspapers, and websites can and should be cited as evidence of a quotation, and some journalists who work for them provided article pages, I do not believe sites or magazines should be given their own article pages. In many cases the content could become overwhelming complex and extensive.

Additionally, the comment "BSD is DYING" appears to be wishful thinking on the part of someone NOT at Netcraft:

At http://news.netcraft.com/ : Searched for "BSD is dying" No pages were found containing "BSD is dying".

some articles that did mention forms of BSD: http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/06/07/nearly_25_million_active_sites_running_freebsd.html

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/07/05/most_reliable_hosting_providers_during_june.html

~ Achilles 03:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * This was deleted ~ Kalki

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Nintendo

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 03:56, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Nintendo

 * VOTE CLOSED. Results: Deleted (3 Deletes, 1 Keep). — Jeff Q (talk) 03:56, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nicely structured page, devoid of quotes. Wikiquote's Category:Electronic games has developed around quotes from specific games, so this is like having a page for "Library" instead of for individual books. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:12, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Rmhermen 15:16, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep. Nicely structured page. - 68.72.123.164 06:21, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Indeed, but its scope is too wide and doesn't follow our policy. --Aphaia 09:26, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Olav Mjelde

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)

Olav Mjelde
Contains nothing but a question ("Who the heck is olav mjelde?"). Looks like anonymous page creator did so to call attention to a quote in Computers by Mjelde, which itself looks like a vanity quote from an unfamous person (possibly [mailto:olav@wintech.no the Olav Mjelde] who pops up on various movie- and computer-related websites). — Jeff Q 05:45, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Oliver Putzier

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)

Oliver Putzier

 * Only Google hits for this person are mirrors of this site. Rmhermen 19:53, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Deleted ~ Kalki

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Ong Lee Shyh

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 7 July 2005 18:37 (UTC)

Ong Lee Shyh
No wp article, no intro, google hits are numerous and all point to the same quote. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 18:37 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (3 deletes, no dissent, not adding to Computer)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 18:37 (UTC)
 * Delete - His or her name can't be found even in the USENET archive (on google). But this quote sounds a bit witty, so merge to Computer as anonymous quote.--Aphaia 21:40, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. And I wish people would stop suggesting that unnotable but interesting quotes, even when attributed to specific people, should get tossed into Anonymous as if it's a garbage can for wit (which is exactly what Computer is right now). Serious quote compendiums require that quotes by "Anonymous" be well-known, not just witty, and they don't accept sourced quotes unless the person is proven notable. Jeff Q (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Though your opinion is different from me, but it is still suggestive. I found two possibly helpful ideas on your opinion: how do you think we being to draft two guidelines: Guideline for anonymous quotes and Guideline on notability? --Aphaia 00:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * I think these are good ideas, but I don't see how we'll be able to get them going properly when we're still having trouble:
 * working on: Help:Transwiki, Blocking policy, Category schemes, Deletion policy
 * updating: FAQ, Guide to layout, Policies and guidelines, Speedy deletions, Templates
 * lagging on: Manual of style, Reference desk, Requested entries, Shortcuts, Spellings, Utilities, What Wikiquote is not
 * just getting started on: QotD/Quote proposals, Vote, Voting
 * trying to manage: Vandalism in progress, Village pump, Votes for deletion
 * and dealing with other pages that I'm not even tracking. And that doesn't even include all the red links to other policy pages that we don't have yet, or the informally-borrowed Wikipedia practices that are rather complicated and not-quite-relevant to Wikiquote. Nor does it include all the time we spend arguing with one-issue editors with plenty of time to burn. We've got enough work for 20-30 very active editors, and we don't have half that number working these issues. I feel that these policy drafts we create wind up being one person's ideas tweaked by thoughts from 1-5 other people, which makes me extremely uncomfortable contemplating new drafts. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:37, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/OwlWhacker

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 11:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

OwlWhacker
Non-notable online post reposted here. Rmhermen 21:59, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED. Result: Deleted (1 Delete, 1 implicit Delete; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 11:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Interesting quote, but non-notable bulletin board source. — Jeff Q (talk) 02:43, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Ozymandias

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 04:38, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Ozymandias
exists on wikisource. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 deletes, no dissent) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MosheZadka (talk • contribs) 04:38, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 18:58 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 00:03, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Painkiller Supreme

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 14:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Painkiller Supreme
Vanity. Certainly not a quote page. Just someone perhaps trying to seem profound by being by being puzzling by posting obscure and obscurantist statements here. ~ Achilles 07:46, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (5 Deletes; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 14:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete MosheZadka 07:53, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * We should also remove these quotes from QOTD proposals if we delete it.
 * Delete ~ Achilles 09:18, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have no problems with removing these quotes from a likely un-notable person immediately (and have done so). The editor couldn't even be troubled to put them on the quote page they should be on. (I'll volunteer to restore them if we don't delete this article.) — Jeff Q (talk) 15:25, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsense, no quotes. jni 05:52, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nonsense, no quotes. Sams 09:26, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Pam Cannon

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 07:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Pam Cannon
11th grade teacher, no claim to notability. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:07, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:41, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:07, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Concur with MosheZadka. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:22, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Pan-atheism

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The result was: delete. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:21, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Pan-atheism
This quoteless encylopedia stub was marked as a transwiki to Wikipedia, but I found that WP had already voted to delete this exact text, and has apparently had recurring attempts(1),(2) to restore it. In short, it ain't gonna be accepted as a transwiki. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:21, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED: Result delete (4 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:21, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 02:21, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 02:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Thanks for the info, Jeffq... Seems like someone failed to create it on wp, so he tried wq instead... iddo999 22:12, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Thank you for your research, Jeffq. --Aphaia 08:16, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Philip Agre

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 21:42, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Philip Agre
Probably this guy, an associate professor. I am unsure he has claim to notability beyond being an associate professor, and every college has several, so I doubt it is enough. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 21:42, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. If it is this college professor, it's ironic that he would fail to include such evidence or even any context, given his quoted thesis on the unreliability of Internet-based information. Or is this article an academic experiment to prove a point? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:48, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 03:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest
No quotes, and probably no quotes until mid-2006 (promos) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 23:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: 'delete (3 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 03:45, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 23:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and I propose a new criteria for speedy as "promotion - article concerned to a not yet published work without any quotes "about it". --Aphaia 07:10, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I've combined Aphaia's proposals on this and on links-only articles into a specific revision of speedy deletion case #4 to cover this, which also adjusts the Wikipedia-centric case to one more suited to Wikiquote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:07, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Places

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The result was: deleted. — MosheZadka 01:07, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Places
I think we are better to not have it. Like "anime" or "favorites". In the past time we need to have lists but today we are discussing replace lists with categories. From my view, this is out of date attempt. We have already Category:Places and this list is redundant and less convinient to maintain.

And even if this page should survive, it should be "List of places" following our convention in my opinion. --Aphaia 20:58, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: deleted (3 deletes, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 01:07, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete: --Aphaia 20:58, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: Agreed. Lists are a pain to maintain, and are seldom maintained correctly. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 21:41, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Created by new user Richard Allen, who's acknowledged elsewhere that he's still on a learning curve. He probably didn't know about Categories. I've left him a (hopefully) encouraging note. — Jeff Q (talk) 01:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Quentin Tarantino

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The result was: UNIDENTIFIED. NO SIGNATURE

Quentin Tarantino
Dead copy of studyworld.com. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 04:05 (UTC)

 * VOTE CLOSED: delete and replace with better version (4 delete, 3 replace, no dissent)

 * Delete: strongly assumed copyvio. and if not, encyclopedic. WP has his article already. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 04:05 (UTC)
 * Keep: I've blanked out the bio, and put in a new QT article. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 22:30, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Is it okay just to blank it if it is copyvio? I heard we can search history, not only the current version in the future. --Aphaia 22:33, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * No idea. On the face of it, it sounds unlikely, but I could be wrong. If necessary, it should be possible to delete and recreate, no? ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 22:37, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace with User:MosheZadka/Quentin Tarantino. As per Aphaia's suggestion, I am editing in a version that has no history in common with the current version. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 22:44, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace as MosheZadka describes. We don't need to prove copyvio to achieve a consensus that the current article isn't suitable for Wikiquote, as it is more of a biographical discussion than a quote page. Deleting it would remove any issue with copyvio, and moving MZ's version into its place would preserve the history of his (and anyone else's) work on this much more appropriate article. — Jeff Q (talk) 00:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and replace like MosheZadka and Jeffq suggest. jni 05:51, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Quiz

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)

Quiz
Quiz isn't really a quote, it's a quiz someone just added. They also added it to the front page as a link, so I deleted that, but I can't delete the actual entry. PERHAPS there is call for a "Famous Quizzes and Tests" page, but it seems to stretch the definition of what Wikiquote is for. So I vote to DELETE "Quiz" entry, and I also vote NO to a "Famous Quizzes" page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.205.177.231 (talk • contribs) 01:01, 10 February 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete "Quiz", and no to famous quizzes 219.88.47.67 23:33, 10 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete and no as well. ~ TOR 09:26, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Deleted ~ Kalki

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Recovered/Wikiquote, Recovered/Template

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The result was: deleted.. — Aphaia 16:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Recovered/Wikiquote, Recovered/Template
Another set of double redirects. Is there any reason we need to keep them? --Aphaia 4 July 2005 09:23 (UTC)
 * Vote closed: Result: deleted. (2 deletes without the requester, no dissent). --Aphaia 16:47, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Question: What is the purpose of the 26 current pages that begin with "Recovered" and have subpages representing existing articles (mostly from Wikiquote: namespace):
 * Although the two currently nominated for deletion are one-edit pages, some of these have long histories. I don't feel comfortable voting until I understand why they exist in the first place. — Jeff Q (talk) 21:48, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Just assumption. They were once in the project namespace, they were named "wikipedia" (because then the site was "quote.wikipedia.org"). From some point, Wikipedia:XX can't be accessed as a page on Wikiquote, and then those files were recovered by a developer and then moved to the current places by Kalki, around 17 July 2004. So I guess those files (including redirects) aren't necessary to keep, but also not neccesary to delete. They occupy "Ancientpages" and some special pages and a bit annoying but it would be okay simply to turn them to redirects.
 * Those two merged because they were double-redirects; I fixed them to the correct descinations. --Aphaia 23:24, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete them all. The main article namespace shouldn't have titles like "Recovered", even if they're redirects. As long as the page histories are intact in the current articles (and based on a few spot checks, it looks like they are), we should get rid of all of these unneeded and confusing pages left over from a maintenance operation. — Jeff Q (talk) 06:43, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete all. There seems not to be anything worthwhile in page histories we need to keep. jni 06:55, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Reirom

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 11:41, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Reirom
A google search finds half a dozen sites with this same strange misspelled quote and definition. Some sort if hoax surely. Rmhermen 16:23, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete: like this? Anyway it isn't atributed even to anonym and means almost nothing. Not worthy to keep in my opinion. --Aphaia 17:14, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep: Reirom is very known in the emulation scene, it redefined the concept of Troll, it is very famous in the EFNet. Some people and many tech-scenes says: Have two ages: before reirom, and after reirom. --Mateusc 00:03, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep --Oblivion 21:41, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete : Unless some understandable context can be provided for this peice of gibberish,it should be disposed of within the next week. It does not seem to be "very known" on the "emulation scene", nor have any common usage beyond the handful of google hits that have been mentioned, where it seems to have been posted in a similar fashion as on this wiki. It seems to be perhaps some personal prank or private code, neither widespread nor noteworthy beyond some very small clique, and perhaps merely the contrivance of some odd individual. ~ Kalki 14:43, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Amending my comment slightly: there does seem to be some reference of "Reirom" on some talk pages for emulation games dating back to at least 2000. But it still does not seem to be either very widespread, nor very clear what these statements refer to: and until there is some more information and clearer context provided, as to why this should be considered a "quotable" or "notable" statement of someone, I would still vote to delete. ~ Kalki 18:56, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Wait . Wikipedia has a similarly confusing article on Reirom, but they have 1,000 times the eyeballs to poll for hard details and references. I've VFD'd its page in the hopes that someone other than the contributors of these articles (on both sites) can substantiate it or confirm it to be unencylopedic. — Jeff Q (talk) 06:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. I changed my vote because the Wikipedia article has now been deleted after an overwhelming vote (with only Wikipedia's Mateusc and an anonymous user dissenting). Furthermore, both our Mateusc and Oblivion above have exactly the same total contribution pattern at Wikiquote — recording their Reirom Keep votes here, creating a one-line User page, and tweaking Reirom, suggesting that they only registered here to vote against deletion, and that one may be a sockpuppet of the other. Finally, Mateusc has not responded to my request on their talk page that they provide some hard evidence of assertions that "Reirom" is somehow notable. — Jeff Q (talk) 14:54, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * NOTE: Aphaia just reverted vandalism of this page by an anon who removed all but the two Keep votes. I just reverted yet another removal of the vfd tag on the article itself and blocked the user for 24 hours for vandalizing VFD, after earlier removing two anon votes that were fraudulently masquerading as registered users. I am too involved in stopping these assaults (even while trying to get these people to actually make a case) to feel comfortable closing the vote, even though we're well past the two-week recommendation AND the Wikipedia page has been deleted by loud acclamation. Could some other sysop finalize this vote, please? — Jeff Q (talk) 09:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Strongly delete: We need no vanity. --Aphaia 07:44, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC) (Moved 09:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC) by author herself)
 * Deleted ~ Kalki 11:41, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Richard Childers

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 14:45, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Richard Childers
No intro, no wp page, creation comment seems to indicate someone fairly average. Google hits exist, but none establish notability. Suspect vanity. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (3 Deletes; no dissent). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:45, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:34, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:13, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not notable. jni 09:01, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Robert Frank

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The result was: Deleted.. Aphaia 09:56, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Robert Frank
Appears to be personal quotes from the page creator. Note the original edit which just consisted of two links to his website. Rmhermen 21:05, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Page was created as link to creator's website. Even if he's notable, it's not Wiki policy to have people create articles about themselves, except for User pages. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:48, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Deleted. Aphaia 09:56, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Robert J. Petry

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:09, 11 March 2005 (UTC)

Robert J. Petry
Appears to be personal vanity page. Only Google hits were Rmhermen 14:59, 5 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Deleted ~ Kalki

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Roofi Shaikh - 2004

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The result was: Deleted. ~ Kalki 19:16, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Roofi Shaikh - 2004
I indicated on this article's Roofi Shaikh - 2004 talk page that the article pages at Wikiquote, like those at the Wikipedia, are intended for people and works which have already attained some degree of public prominence. A Google search for "Roofi Shaikh" yeilded 20 results, none of them indicating that this person is notable enough for an article page. I thus am putting this on the list here. WE NEED to make a more prominent assertion of the differences between the two types of pages, and clearly state the policy against "vanity pages" for those who are not yet sufficiently prominent to clearly merit an article. ~ Achilles 13:37, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Deleted ~ Kalki 19:16, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Ryan Livingston

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The result was: deleted. — Aphaia 14:33, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Ryan Livingston
20 yo, made article by same-named user. Probably vanity. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: deleted (4 deletes, no dissent. The editor who shares the same name was asked to move it to his own user page, but did no action). --Aphaia 14:33, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:33, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless he moves it to his user page. I left a note for him. If deleted, this entry should be removed from List of people by name. --Aphaia 09:46, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and concur with Aphaia. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. jni 09:08, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Ségur

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 16:56, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Ségur
Although there were several persons whose family name were Ségur, I suspect it would be a vanity based on google result --Aphaia 20:58, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * VOTES CLOSED: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 16:56, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless specific subject and evidence of notability provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:43, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:05, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sammy Gouti

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The result was: delete, pending technical fix. — jni 06:06, 24 May 2005 (UTC)

Sammy Gouti
text of original deletion debate: Sammy Gouti. Non famous. His articles have recently been deleted from the English and French Wikipedias for this reason. He was also listed as a problem user at Wikipedia for contunally adding his name to list of famous psychologists/ philosophers/ statisticians etc etc. Angela 21:53, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Seconded. Nanobug 23:09, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Self-proclaimed deities

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 07:19, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Self-proclaimed deities

 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (3 Deletes, 1 implicit delete; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 07:19, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * No quotes. Not likely to get any. Rmhermen 03:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete non-Npov-compatible theme. MosheZadka 04:10, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. What MosheZadka said. — Jeff Q (talk) 04:32, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Probably nothing notable here, like Rmhermen said. But I don't see why this has anything to do with npov, nor do I see what wikiquote in general has to do with npov. Sams 20:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Selena Ravot

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The result was: delete. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Selena Ravot
Self-admitted vanity. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:46, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete and remove quotes from theme articles (3 deletes, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless replaced with a decent article about a provably notable person ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:46, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:32, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete - Her only notable quote is already captured on the Procrastination page. UDScott 13:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: excellent catch! We should probably remove the quote from Procrastination if the result is to delete (as seems likely) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 14:24, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * This is another of many examples of how littered with unnotable quotes our theme pages are. Someday, we'll have to invest some major effort in weeding these out. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:17, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * In general, wikiquote seems to have gathered vast acres of crap in which you can plant crops. Slowly, but surely, the crap seems to die out faster than the new crap is moving in, meaning that after a finite time, we'll have zero crap :) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:38, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Mixing your Buffy metaphor with my park metaphor, MosheZadka, I've noticed no general trend in pulling weeds out of otherwise healthy gardens, only removing undesirable gardens in toto, which is much easier to do. Have you looked at Computers lately? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 17:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I'm avoiding looking at Computers because of exactly that reason :) My point is that there is enough in-toto crap to fix (articles with no intro being my latest craze, you may remember the categorizing drive a while ago which flushed many VfDs out, etc.) Once we reach a more or less stable ground article-wise, we can start cleaning out themes (for example, by mandating that every theme quote has to come from a specific source page, which is wikilinked — that will at least reduce the problem to the Anonymous hell-hole). I'm a hardcore eventualist, which is why I referenced "slowly but surely" and a "finite amount of time". ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 17:10, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Shane Lively

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The result was: delete. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Shane Lively
Vanity (wp page links to userpage) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result delete (3 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:18, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete vanity ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 09:23, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --Aphaia 19:21, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Shawn Mikula

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The result was: Deleted. — Aphaia 09:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Shawn Mikula
The corresponding Wikipedia article Shawn Mikula has been deleted multiple times with prejudice, see w:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Shawn Mikula. There appears to be a persistent self-promotion campaign by Mr. Mikula himself to insert his vanity bio to various wikis. Shawn Mikula and Shawn Mikula are protected against re-creation and from Google I found deletion log entries for es, bg, de and it wikis. Delete. jni June 27, 2005 05:57 (UTC)
 * '''Vote Closed. Result: Deleted (3 deletes, 1 kept as a blanked page) --Aphaia 09:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Comment: I find many of Dr. Shawn Mikula's quotes extremely thought-provoking. Plus he has an extensive web presence and has many accomplishments to his name.  I vote to keep his quotes.
 * Added by User:128.120.134.29, moved to standard fmt by me. Should probably be disregarded as it is not explicitly signed. Urged user to sign properly. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 27 June 2005 08:59 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 27 June 2005 09:00 (UTC)
 * Delete. We should be prepared for retaliatory vandalism, based on Wikipedia's experience, for the nerve to suggest Mr. Mikula isn't God's gift to philosophy, even though he seems to be the only one who thinks so. And just for the record, the article creator is the one who made the improperly unsigned vote above to keep. I wonder who that may be? — Jeff Q (talk) 27 June 2005 09:51 (UTC)
 * Keep but after blanked and protected. English Wikiquote have 30 deleted revisions. It means it has been created at least 1.5  times in a month (assumingly the rest might be "deletion" tagging"). Even if we can speedy it from the next time, it is a waste of time. --Aphaia 28 June 2005 03:59 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not only not notable, but a lot of very bad, very trivial quotes. --Calton 05:57, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sheng Long

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 15:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sheng Long
No quotes, just discussion probably belonging in wikipedia. MosheZadka 08:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (4 Deletes; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 15:34, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete MosheZadka 08:28, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Aphaia 09:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Sams 20:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. We do not create a whole Wikiquote page for a single quote, which is all this is or ever will be. The quote is already recorded in Street Fighter. Interested parties may want to transfer the discussion of this obscure controversy to Street Fighter. — Jeff Q (talk) 14:26, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Shkodër

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The result was: deleted. ~ Kalki

Shkodër
Shkodër - Some German(?) words, just three of them. - user:zanimum

(nomination timestamp 16:36, 21 November 2003 (UTC), added by Jeff Q (talk) 03:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC))

 * Delete. Angela 04:30, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * These might be Albanian, and a motto or something… but if no one can provide a translation for them in the next month or so, I will delete them. — Kalki 20:51, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 * I did manage to do a translation of these with an Albanian English translation site: "kohë është flori" means roughly : "Time is gold" or "Time is golden" — they thus might be compared to the English proverb "Time is Money" or a more general assertion "Time is precious" and "Time is valuable." Shkodër is a city in Albania, and by the formatting used on the Albanian proverbs page, this might indicate where the proverb is presumed to have originated, or be generally used. I will probably delete this page eventually as superfluous but see no special hurry in doing so. I will try to find someone who understands Albanian to confirm or reject my assessment, and help in proper placement of the phrase. — Kalki 23:22, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * You're right. It roughly translates to Time is money. Dori 23:21, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * This was deleted The proverb that was there is now on the Albanian proverbs page. ~ Kalki

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sholey

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 04:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sholey
This appears to be a film stub with three translated Hindi(?) quotes, but no such film shows up at IMDb. There is a similar title listed there, Aaj Ke Sholey (1985), but the listed characters don't match, and the IMDb page has no quotes to cross-check. The editor(s) have provided no context to allow us to verify that this film exists. I've asked the editor(s) to provide some information to supercede this deletion request, but if they don't respond, it should probably go. — Jeff Q (talk) 19:09, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED. Result: Deleted (2 Deletes; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 04:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. No response from the editor(s). — Jeff Q (talk) 19:58, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. What JeffQ said. Sams 10:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sgt. Jamie Shrope

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 11:16, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Sgt. Jamie Shrope
No intro, single unsourced quote is dated "2005", suspect vanity. ~ MosheZadka (Talk)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:16, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:48, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. The sole quote in this article was added to Hero early this year by 216.182.27.166, and just recently copied into a new article for this person by 66.182.193.16, both the sole actions of these anonymous editors. If we delete, we should remove the "Hero" quote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:55, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Stephen Roberts

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The result was: deleted. — MosheZadka 01:06, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

Stephen Roberts
No intro, no wp article. Google hits are personal geocities site and various free-for-all quote collections. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 19:26 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: deleted (3 deletes, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 01:06, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 19:26 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. — Jeff Q (talk) 01:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Non-notable. jni 05:41, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Steven Robinson

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 16:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Steven Robinson
No intro, google points to other people (distinguished by date of birth), few 17yos are notable. Suspected vanity. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 00:21, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 16:53, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 00:21, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:01, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Styx

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 7 July 2005 08:48 (UTC)

Styx
No quotes, just some encyclopedic stub. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 08:48 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (3 deletes, no dissent)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 08:48 (UTC)
 * Delete unless any quote would be added. --Aphaia 7 July 2005 11:18 (UTC)
 * Delete. Charon, Minotaur, and Styx are more articles created because someone wanted to fix red WQ links with encyclopedia articles. In these cases, however, they came from "en:" Wikipedia links that now point to WQ. I've fixed these links in their link-source article, Max Payne. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:18, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Super Nintendo

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 03:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Super Nintendo

 * A page for a one-time Simpson's quote. Rmhermen 00:11, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED. Results: Deleted (2 Deletes, 1 implicit Delete, no dissent). Sole existing quote already confirmed on Simpsons page. — Jeff Q (talk) 03:53, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Simpsons quote can go on its page. Other electronic game quotes should go into game pages. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:08, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Too wide. Already said by Jeff Q. --Aphaia 09:26, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sven Mattson

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The result was: Deleted. — Aphaia 00:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Sven Mattson
Another single-liner that I cannot verify. No Wikipedia page. Title is a normal Swedish name so I got many Google hits but nothing seemed relevant. Delete. jni June 27, 2005 12:57 (UTC)
 * Vote Closed: Result: Deleted (2 deletes, no dissent) --Aphaia 00:54, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless we're provided with evidence of notability. — Jeff Q (talk) 28 June 2005 04:34 (UTC)
 * Delete I've searched for this quote, found a few variants and it is not widespread ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:40, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Sweat of the Damned

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 07:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Sweat of the Damned
This is a long excerpt from a copyrighted work, and even if it is not a copyvio, it should go into the appropriate work's page. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 12:18 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (2 Deletes; no dissent). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:19, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 12:18 (UTC)
 * Delete. I think this qualifies as being much too long an excerpt, especially with all the context, to be considered a "quote". Speeches (that aren't copyvios) should go to Wikisource, but I don't think this qualifies for that, either. — Jeff Q (talk) 00:44, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Tender Crisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 15:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Tender Crisp Bacon Cheddar Ranch
Full lyrics, probably copyrighted, to an ad songs. It's possible some should be extracted into Advertising slogans.
 * Vote Closed. Result: Deleted (3 Deletes; no dissent). — Jeff Q (talk) 15:32, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete MosheZadka 08:20, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Aphaia 09:27, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it isn't copyrighted (which seems unlikely), it should go to Wikisource, anyway. — Jeff Q (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: if it's not copyrighted, then I suppose JeffQ is right, and that full lyrics should be on wikisource and not wikiquote, but is there anywhere a formal discussion on that, where a policy was formed? If not, perhaps we should form a clear policy on lyrics? Sams 20:44, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
 * For earlier lyrics discussions, see Wikiquote talk:What Wikiquote is not. When Wikiquote grows up, we should probably create a policy article called Lyrics whose talk page would also provide a logical place for questions and discussion about this popular topic. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:06, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Fox and the Hound Steal Money

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 05:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

The Fox and the Hound Steal Money
Wp article deleted, user tried to create one here. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:18, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent, one struck out vote) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:18, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: see w:Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/The_Fox_and_the_Hound_Steal_Money ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:46, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. This is from a repeat hoaxer who openly admits on his WQ user page that he creates fake articles and is doing so here because he's been blocked from WP and Wikimedia. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Oh yeah? Deleting this page to you all doesn't mean you have to protect it! RyanCahn
 * Improperly added vote (I hesitate to say forged since the user may have just forgot to log in) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:23, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Lord of the Rings (fandom)

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The result was: Deleted. — Aphaia 6 July 2005 08:04 (UTC)

The Lord of the Rings (fandom)
Fandom quote(s) from the Internet doesn't match our notability critelia. WQ:FAQ says such entries should be listed as "Anonymous" and I don't find any difference quotes from newsgroups and quotes from "the poster him or herself and friends". --Aphaia 22:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: Deleted (3 deletes, no dissent) --Aphaia 6 July 2005 08:04 (UTC)

 * Delete: --Aphaia 22:15, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Significant quotes would belong on the main article in the "Quotes about the" section but fandom isn't significant. Rmhermen 14:26, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, and don't add them to any articles as "Anonymous". The FAQ has two unrelated answers about neighbor quotes and Internet quotes which should not be interpreted as giving people permission to add anything they find (or create) as "Anonymous" quotes. Proper "Anonymous" quotes are notable quotes that should stand the test of time, not just be from an unknown source. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Shadow Walker

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The result was: delete. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

The Shadow Walker
Searches reveal several fairly unnotable people calling themselves that. Googling for quotes found them only on wq and mirrors (and sometimes unattributed in sigs). If the page is deleted, the quotes should be removed from all linking pages (and any pages that become quoteless by that should be speedied, as per policy). ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:50, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:04, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:50, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not only is this person unidentified and likely unnotable, 1 of "his" 3 quotes ("What is the plural for apocalypse?") is likely lifted from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:55, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Sims

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 7 July 2005 14:32 (UTC)

The Sims
No quotes. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 14:32 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 deletes, no dissent)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 7 July 2005 14:32 (UTC)
 * Delete unless quotes and Wikipedia-linked intro provided. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:38, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Sims 2

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The result was: deleted. — MosheZadka 13:13, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

The Sims 2
No quotes ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 14:00 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: deleted (1 delete, 1 delete conditional on "The Sims" deletion which happened, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 13:13, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 9 July 2005 14:00 (UTC)
 * Delete unless The Sims survives its own VfD. If so, redirect there and create a section for this program's quotes (if any). Even Wikipedia doesn't have a separate article on The Sims 2, and it actually has something to say. — Jeff Q (talk) 23:40, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Thomas & Friends Go Wild!

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The result was: deleted.. — Aphaia 20:41, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Thomas & Friends Go Wild!
Seems to be another nonsense article, created by 67.160.58.132 during a string of nonsense edits. (I've SD'd some obvious nonsense in the Wikiquote: namespace during this spree — there are a couple of arguably useful edits — and blocked the IP address for a week.) The only Google hit was an apparent vandal edit to Wikipedia's Third Section article, which I'm looking into. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED: Result: deleted. (3 deletes, no dissent). --Aphaia 20:41, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is almost certainly an anonymous edit by RyanCahn, doing his mischief yet again. We've bent over backward to ask him to participate constructively, and he refuses to cooperate. I will investigate some recent Wikiquote and Wikipedia activities, and if I can make a reasonable case for his involvement here, I will recommend blocking him permanently as an unapologetic vandal. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:08, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Evidence: this shows 67.160.58.132 called himself "RyanCahn", at least. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:30, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 03:35, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Wikipedia has an incident report on RyanCahn's repeated insistence on fake-article creation. With his anon alter-ego, 67.160.58.132, he has created this and other articles on Wikipedia, some of which have already been deleted. I've just nominated the WP version of this article for deletion as well, because not only does it not show up in IMDb or Tv.com, but Cahn's claim that it features Seth Green is also unsupported by IMDb. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:46, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Thanks for your reports, Moshe and Jeff.--Aphaia 08:34, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Thomas Morison

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 22:55, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Thomas Morison
An artist who seems to have been featured in two minor galleries (one of them "community center"), no wp article, google hits are about other same-named people and a couple of articles about PHP on a web forum. No obvious notability. No quotes have sources. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 22:55, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability surfaces. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:27, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/The Social Contract

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The result was: Deleted. — Aphaia 00:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

The Social Contract
Was nominated but not listed for VfD. Article was apparently created as a JavaScript sandbox and abandoned. Someone later replaced it with a one-line statement about the work, but no quotes have been added after nearly five months. — Jeff Q (talk)
 * VOTE CLOSED: Result: Deleted (2 Deletes; no dissent), --Aphaia 00:18, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 23:25, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Rmhermen 02:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Due to technical reason, its deletion is pending. --Aphaia 00:26, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Tim Redmond

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The result was: Deleted.. — Aphaia 00:51, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Tim Redmond
No intro, not clear who this is. No wikipedia article. Google points to one, Tim Redmond, Bay Guardian Executive Editor. I am not sure if being executive editor of a newspaper is notable, but even if so, some kind of link between the person and the links should be established. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 18:52, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE closed: Result: Deleted. (3 deletes, no dissent). --Aphaia 00:51, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete but significnat cleanup and clearing up could change my opinion ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 18:52, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've asked the anonymous editor who created this article to provide some info on who this is, so we can better judge if it should be kept. I've also added a close date two weeks from this posting to give them some time to respond. — Jeff Q (talk) 00:15, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is no information from the original contributor . I extended the vote for three days. Unless any information is provided, I incline to delete it. --Aphaia 9 July 2005 03:50 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. It is incumbent upon the 3000+ editors of Wikiquote, not the 6 active sysops, to provide such evidence. — Jeff Q (talk) 21:59, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Tom Henderson

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 05:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Tom Henderson
No intro, no wp article, no sources for any of the quotes. There is a networking researcher by that name that Google points to, but I'm not sure that a) he is the one referenced or b) that he is notable. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 04:31, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:04, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 04:31, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence provided of notability. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Tommy Choy

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 8 July 2005 05:28 (UTC)

Tommy Choy
No intro, no wp, no quote sources, google points to a couple of community chess boards where he seems to be a decent, but average, chess player. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 05:28 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (2 delete, no dissent)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 05:28 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability provided. Jeff Q (talk) 00:39, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Transcendentalism - A New Revelation

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The result was: Deleted. --Aphaia 16:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Transcendentalism - A New Revelation
With a very liberal interpretation of the arguments that I presented in the section on Manuel de Castro, what appears to be the self promotions of Kurt Kawohl by creating his own article for quotations can be tolerated. However considering his own works as notable enough to be listed in the List of literary works is a step beyond, for which I feel I must definitely register disapproval. I did not delete this page immediately, but am posting it here for the consideration of others on the matter. ~ Kalki 18:56, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)
 * I prefer to delete it; or keep as a part of contents of his userpage. --Aphaia 23:05, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete. I must admit I'm a bit torn on this. The author is gifted at self-promotion, as evidenced by his self-quotes on this page and his chutzpah posting a review of his own book on Amazon.com. It flies in the face of Wiki practice against writing about oneself in article namespace. But he has apparently whipped up some notable controversy. Nevertheless, the self-referential content isn't worthy of a article. If someone other than the quotee feels any of these quotes are notable, I suggest they place them in an appropriate theme article. — Jeff Q (talk) 05:00, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Rmhermen 16:01, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: There is also a Kurt Kawohl page. Rmhermen 12:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. His selfpromotion has been deleted from Wikipedia also. jni 09:47, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Deleted--Aphaia 16:05, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Transwiki:Men can do all things if they will

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 10:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Transwiki:Men can do all things if they will
This article was transwikied from Wikipedia, but as MosheZadka pointed out on its talk page, the quote it refers to (improperly used as the article title) was already listed in Leone Battista Alberti (by Pie4all88, 3 months before the WP article). Per our transwiki policy, I am nominating it for deletion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * VOTE CLOSED: Result: delete (3 delete, no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete and thanks, Jeff. I wasn't sure what we're supposed to do. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:13, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete --Aphaia 22:23, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Trapped In The Looking Glass

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The result was: Deleted. — Jeffq 14:22, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Trapped In The Looking Glass
Could not find mention of this movie in IMDB or wikipedia -- not even when I looked in IMDB under the actors. It is probably a low-budget student movie, and much like college papers, should not be on WQ. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 19:31, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed. Result: Deleted (3 Deletes; no dissent). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 14:22, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 19:31, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless evidence of notability is provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Jeff said. --Aphaia 14:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Ujeev

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The result was: Deleted. --Aphaia 18:32, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

Ujeev
Seems vanity. As a person's name, only this site and mirrors are available. And contents seem nonsense. I doubt it is worthy to keep even as anonymous quotes. --Aphaia 14:35, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Deleted. (3 deletes, no dissent). --Aphaia 18:32, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Delete: --Aphaia 14:35, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Jeff Q (talk) 20:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it's not a hoax then he could have created an account and put this in his user page. Sams 21:49, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion archive/Urdu proverbs

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The result was: delete. — MosheZadka 05:07, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Urdu proverbs
None of the proverbs has either an original script (Urdu uses what looks to be a variant on the Arabic script -- I could at least make out the word "Urdu" in the wp links), a literal translation or the colloquial meaning. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: delete (3 deletes (no translations provided), no dissent) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:07, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:25, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless English translations provided. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:38, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete unless English translations provided. --Aphaia 20:50, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

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