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Talk:Gilmore Girls

Inclusion and formatting guidelines
This quote page is organized a little differently from others, largely because it can be divided into seasons and episodes and because many great quotes from Gilmore Girls are in the form of dialog, which confounds the usual quote formatting.

To add a quote, find the episode it occurs in and copy the formatting of an existing quote to your own needs. If you don't know what episode your quote appeared in, place it in the Unknown episode section, and someone will move it as time permits.

The basic formatting guidelines (as I start this page) are as follows, using this example. [NOTE: The wiki-character links need only be used the first time a character is quoted in an episode.]:

 * :[Lorelai is sparring with Michel over the hotel reservation computer as she answers the phone.]
 * :Lorelai: Independence Inn!
 * :Emily: I need the hat rack.
 * :Lorelai: [mysteriously] The fish flies at night!
 * :Emily: What?
 * :Lorelai: I don't know. Who is this?

which will be rendered by Wikiquote as:

 * [Lorelai is sparring with Michel over the hotel reservation computer as she answers the phone.]
 * Lorelai: Independence Inn!
 * Emily: I need the hat rack.
 * Lorelai: [mysteriously] The fish flies at night!
 * Emily: What?
 * Lorelai: I don't know. Who is this?

The formatting works as follows:

 * The colon indents the quote.
 * Double apostrophes (  ) around context lines (explanations) italicize the text. (NOTE: These are two consecutive ' characters, NOT a "double-quote" (").''
 * Triple apostrophes ( ''' ) surrounding a character name makes the name bold.
 * Double brackets make the character name a Wiki link, so you can click on the character for more information.
 * The expression "w:Character's FullName|" makes the character name a link to Wikipedia, where some of the Gilmore Girls characters may have entries.
 * Don't put any blank lines between lines within a single dialog quote, but make sure there's a blank line between separate quotes.

In long dialog sections, you should only put Wiki links around the first occurrence of each character (to save time and headaches). If all this formatting is too much for your to bother with, just use a simplified version:

 * :[Lorelai is sparring with Michel over the hotel reservation computer as she answers the phone.]
 * :Lorelai: Independence Inn!
 * :Emily: I need the hat rack.
 * :Lorelai: [mysteriously] The fish flies at night!
 * :Emily: What?
 * :Lorelai: I don't know. Who is this?

Just try to remember the initial colon and the blank line between different quotes. Sooner or later, someone will likely come along and pretty it up.

If you need to add an episode header, the format is this:

 * ===Episode Title [S.NN]===

where S is the season number and NN is the number within the season. An excellent source for episode titles and numbers is TV Tome, although there are many fine sites that also provide this information. Again, if you don't know where a quote should go, just tack it on to the end of the Unknown episode section. -- Jeff Q 01:50, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

Character list
Here is a set of preformatted character names that, if you paste them into your quotes, will provide full formatting and linking abilities, including disambiguation for common names.

 * REGULAR CHARACTERS (including Wikipedia links)
 * :Lorelai:
 * :Rory:
 * :Emily:
 * :Richard:
 * :Lane:
 * :Sookie:
 * :Luke:
 * :Michel:
 * :Paris:
 * :Kirk:
 * :Jason:
 * :Jess:
 * :Jackson:
 * :Dean:
 * :Logan:

 * OCCASIONAL CHARACTERS (no Wikipedia links)
 * :Babette:
 * :Christopher:
 * :Drella:
 * :Max:
 * :Miss Patty:
 * :Mrs. Kim:
 * :Sherry:
 * :Taylor:
 * :Tristan:

As I write this, none of the characters have Wikipedia pages yet. If you feel adventurous, you might consider adding some pages yourself. -- Jeff Q 01:50, 29 May 2004 (UTC)

Separating dialog segments
There is an unresolved problem in visually separating different dialog segments. Using the Classic skin (which is essentially wikispeak for "stylesheet"), separating segments with a single blank line makes it clear that consecutive segments are separate. However, with the relatively new Monobook skin forced on anonymous users and anyone who hasn't explictly chosen otherwise, it is difficult to see where one segment ends and the next begins. This problem does not look like it'll be resolved anytime soon.

Several approaches have been tried in other articles to remedy this situation, but most only fix the problem for one skin or the other. In order to make the article clearer without adding too much blank space for one skin, I have inserted the following HTML between each pair of dialog sections:

 * <hr width="50%"/>

I didn't use the standard Wiki line markup " " because it looks exactly like the horizontal lines used in Monobook headings. It would be preferable to use Wiki markup, or to have spacing between the skins match, but based on my unanswered pleas on several discussion pages, I don't see this happening. I invite comments and questions. — Jeff Q (talk) 18:20, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Custom table of contents
An anonymous user has created a malfunctioning custom table of contents for this article. This is worse than having the standard one, because it not only fails to provide proper links to all the sections, but also, in the carelessness of incomplete testing, practically guarantees that this problem will only worsen with an active show whose custom TOC needs regular updating. (This is the main reason why it's a bad idea to implement a custom TOC before a show ends its run.) Unless a registered user commits here on this talk page to maintain this TOC (or one like it) for now and the foreseeable future, I will revert this article to a standard table of contents. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

You will see that all of the links have been fixed, and with such a large number of people contributing to this page it stands to reason that it willl stay updated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.62.91.130 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry, 66.62.91.130, but there are still three links that aren't working (and 1 more that will stop working when someone fixes the "External links" heading), which you would have found if you had verified every single link as I already pointed out is a requirement for having these custom TOCs. It's not the number of editors contributing that matters; it's the need for at least one wiki-skilled editor to commit to properly maintaining the custom TOC. The fact that you've missed links even after having been told twice about this doesn't bode well. (It also doesn't help sponsor a feeling of participation that you haven't registered an ID. Users don't "own" IP addresses, so communicating with them on the IP talk page is problematic, and it is necessary for someone who commits to this level of maintenance to be easily and unambiguously reachable by the other editors who will inevitably ask why things aren't working right. I know because I've been through this on several different articles.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I checked all the links (again) and found one that wasn't working. I also cannot be responsible for problems in the TOC when someone else changes one of the headings. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.62.91.130 (talk • contribs) 14:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

 * 66.62.91.130, whatever you are doing when you "check" the links, you are not doing it correctly, because there are still the same 3 broken links I found last time. (I confirmed this with my own test, which took about 4 minutes.) I note that my own test last time was too hasty, as I missed the problem with "The Bracebridge Dinner", which I see is what you fixed. But I will point out that this was not someone else messing up the heading; this was an error you made when you created the custom TOC on 7 June 2006. Furthermore, I confirmed that each of the 3 errors I found was present in your original TOC. You are the one who made the mistakes that you are neither finding nor willing to take responsibility to fix.

 * It's a fact that custom tables of contents are very hard to maintain properly. As I've said before, everyone doing them makes mistakes — it's absolutely inevitable. The only way to counter the problems that these introduce is to ensure that whoever implements them takes the extra responsibility to maintain them, regardless of who changes the headings.

 * Unlike Veronica Mars, which has experienced similar problems, Gilmore Girls has so many episodes that a custom TOC is virtually required. Unfortunately, no Wikiquotian has yet shown the desire, the editing skill, and the commitment required to maintain the TOC. I wish I could afford the time to do it myself, but I can't just now. So I am leaving the remaining fixes as an exercise for the editors involved in this article, in the hope that someone cares enough about this show to do this right. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I just checked them all again and can't find the three you must be talking about. Clicking on every link has led me to its appropriate episode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.62.91.130 (talk • contribs) 20:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

 * My role here is that of a teacher and cajoler, to try to get others to do the kind of work that makes a wiki possible (rather than doing it all myself, which is impossible, as I actively monitor over 1000 Wikiquote pages and spot-check many more). I have clearly failed here, so I will give the answers requested. Episodes "Paris Is Burning" and "Nag Hammadi Is Where They Found the Gnostic Gospels", and non-episode link "Guest stars", all have TOC entries that do not, and never have, worked. Anyone claiming to have successfully tested them is, shall we say, in error. The reason is that the capitalization is incorrect in both the link labels (which doesn't matter, but is important for style reasons) and the link itself, which is critical to make it work. It doesn't matter what computer, what browser, what time of day, what version of MediaWiki, or what version of this article thus far has been tested; it won't work for any combination of these. Furthermore, the link label for "External links" is incorrectly capitalized, although the link itself is correct and functional. These problems were introduced in the very first version of the custom TOC that 66.62.91.130 created, and as far as I've been able to tell through spot-checking versions throughout the past 2 months, they have never been fixed.

 * I could, of course, have fixed all these things in a minute or two. But what happens when someone breaks them? What happens when the new season starts? What happens when someone plays with the background colors and accidentally breaks the wikitable formatting? These are things that regularly happen with other custom-TOC articles, and they require someone to watch for them and address them as they happen. If I could do this for the dozen or so custom-TOC articles while watching a thousand others for problems, participating in daily maintenance, welcoming newcomers, reverting vandalism and issuing warnings about such, and answering research and operational questions, I'd do it. But I can't — I'm only one person.

 * This article really needs a custom TOC. But if I can't drum up any combination of enthusiasm, skill, and commitment for maintaining it, I will revert it to a horribly long standard TOC. We'll just have to wait for someone to come along at a future date to shepherd this article. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:01, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * By the way, I just fixed the 4 problems mentioned above (the 3 broken links and the bad link label). Anyone wishing to see the problems before they were fixed can use the "history" tab to look at any version of the article from the one mentioned above, where the TOC was added, to the one just before I fixed it. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Last call! Last call for an editor who will take responsibility for maintaining and extending this article's custom table of contents, especially since the eighth season will start in a few weeks. If I get no takers, I will revert to a standard TOC shortly after 10 September (sooner if the episode titles become available before then, to forestall wasted effort). ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I will keep the TOC up-to-date as best as possible. I'm in college and if my classes distract from this then go ahead and revert it. Meri H 18:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I've put off my reversion until at least 0:00 UTC, 12 September 2006, while waiting for Meri H to respond to my question about her wiki experience, as she has no editing history that I've found either here or on WP. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:07, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

 * No response, so I've removed the custom TOC. It can be restored and revised once we find an skilled editor to take on this maintenance task. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

criteria for inclusion
what is the criteria for including a quote from the show. it seems like just about any line from the dialog is acceptable. Is that true? --Unbelievable 23:54, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

 * There are no specific formal guidelines for inclusion, but there are many informally recommended for TV shows to keep these articles relatively succinct and avoid copyright violations. I've posted a number of these practices at Talk:Mystery Science Theater 3000, under several headings, but they can be found on many other article talk pages as well. (We were moving toward formalizing some of these in a formatting and inclusion guidelines policy page when one of our main TV-show editors ceased editing, and we have yet to regain the momentum he provided.)

 * I'll try to summarize some of these concisely:
 * Keep quotes to pithy essences. Transcriptions of entire scenes are a bad idea.
 * Keep context lines to one-sentence bare minimums, providing only a terse indication of the scene (for sourcing purposes)
 * Never include stage directions (e.g., [laughing], [turns around]) unless they are absolutely essential for understanding the quote.
 * If there is more context and/or stage direction than quote material, the quote probably isn't a good candidate for Wikiquote.
 * If the quote cannot be understood from the words — if it's too visual or too aural, or requires too much explanation — it's probably a bad candidate.
 * To avoid copyvio, we're trying to keep to 3-5 quotes per episode, perhaps 8 max for a very few episodes. This does not guarantee non-copyvio, but at least gives us a plausible argument that we're trying.
 * Because of the last guideline, editors are absolutely encouraged — pleaded with, in fact — to trim all but the most pithy, humorous, moving, or otherwise memorable quotes from each episode. In the end, each article contains what its active editors want it to contain, so it's up them (us) to do this job. The alternative, as has been demonstrated a number of times recently (and probably will be more frequently in the future), is that someone from outside will simply delete most or all of the article without notice as a likely copyvio. Let's avoid this if we can. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the helpful explanation! Unbelievable 20:58, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

title: Talk:Gilmore Girls


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Joseph Smith, Jr.

Joseph Smith, Jr. (December 23, 1805 – June 27, 1844) was the founder of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Mormonism, and the Latter Day Saint movement.

1830s

 * Take away the Book of Mormon and the revelations, and where is our religion? We have none.
 * History of the Church, 2:52 (21 April 1834)

 * Let us here observe, that a religion that does not require the sacrifice of all things never has power sufficient to produce the faith necessary unto life and salvation
 * Lectures on Faith 6:7

 * The fundamental principles of our religion are the testimony of the Apostles and Prophets, concerning Jesus Christ, that He died, was buried, and rose again the third day, and ascended into heaven; and all other things which pertain to our religion are only appendages to it.
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 121 (8 May 1838)

 * Truth is "Mormonism." God is the author of it.
 * History of the Church, 3:297 (20 March 1839)

 * We have learned by sad experience that it is the nature and disposition of almost all men, as soon as they get a little authority, as they suppose, they will immediately begin to exercise unrighteous dominion.
 * Doctrine and Covenants, 121:39 (20 March 1839)

 * A fanciful and flowery and heated imagination beware of; because the things of God are of deep import; and time, and experience, and careful and ponderous and solemn thoughts can only find them out. Thy mind, O man! if thou wilt lead a soul unto salvation, must stretch as high as the utmost heavens, and search into and contemplate the darkest abyss, and the broad expanse of eternity—thou must commune with God.
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 137 (25 March 1839)

 * A person may profit by noticing the first intimation of the spirit of revelation; for instance, when you feel pure intelligence flowing into you, it may give you sudden strokes of ideas, so that by noticing it, you may find it fulfilled the same day or soon; (i.e.) those things that were presented unto your minds by the Spirit of God, will come to pass; and thus by learning the Spirit of God and understanding it, you may grow into the principle of revelation, until you become perfect in Christ Jesus.
 * History of the Church, 3:381 (27 June 1839)

 * Salvation cannot come without revelation; it is in vain for anyone to minister without it. No man is a minister of Jesus Christ without being a Prophet. No man can be a minister of Jesus Christ except he has the testimony of Jesus; and this is the spirit of prophecy.
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 160 (2 July 1839)

1840s

 * If you do not accuse each other, God will not accuse you. If you have no accuser you will enter heaven, and if you will follow the revelations and instructions which God gives you through me, I will take you into heaven as my back load. If you will not accuse me, I will not accuse you. If you will throw a cloak of charity over my sins, I will over yours—for charity covereth a multitude of sins. What many people call sin is not sin; I do many things to break down superstition, and I will break it down.
 * History of the Church, 4:445 (7 November 1841)

 * I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.
 * History of the Church, 4:461 (28 November 1841)

 * Our missionaries are going forth to different nations, and in Germany, Palestine, New Holland, the East Indies, and other places, the standard of truth has been erected: no unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing, persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say the work is done.
 * History of the Church, 4:540 (1 March 1842)

 * A man is saved no faster than he gets knowledge.
 * History of the Church, 4:588 (10 April 1842)

 * That which is wrong under one circumstance, may be, and often is, right under another. God said, 'Thou shalt not kill'; at another time He said, 'Thou shalt utterly destroy.' This is the principle on which the government of heaven is conducted—by revelation adapted to the circumstances in which the children of the kingdom are placed. Whatever God requires is right, no matter what it is, although we may not see the reason thereof till long after the events transpire.'
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 256 (11 April 1842)

 * Our heavenly Father is more liberal in His views, and boundless in His mercies and blessings, than we are ready to believe or receive; and at the same time more terrible to the workers of iniquity, more awful in the executions of His punishments, and more ready to detect in every false way, than we are apt to suppose Him to be.
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 257 (11 April 1842)

 * Nothing is so much calculated to lead people to forsake sin as to take them by the hand, and watch over them with tenderness. When persons manifest the least kindness and love to me, O what power it has over my mind, while the opposite course has a tendency to harrow up all the harsh feelings and depress the human mind.
 * History of the Church, 5:23–24 (9 June 1842)

 * Deep water is what I am wont to swim in.
 * Doctrine and Covenants, 127:2 (1 September 1842)

 * I told them I was but a man, and they must not expect me to be perfect; if they expected perfection from me, I should expect it from them; but if they would bear with my infirmities and the infirmities of the brethren, I would likewise bear with their infirmities.
 * History of the Church, 5:181 (29 October 1842)

 * If I had not actually got into this work and been called of God, I would back out. But I cannot back out: I have no doubt of the truth.
 * History of the Church, 5:336 (6 April 1843)

 * It is my meditation all the day, and more than my meat and drink, to know how I shall make the Saints of God comprehend the visions that roll like an overflowing surge before my mind.
 * History of the Church, 5:362 (16 April 1843)

 * More painful to me are the thoughts of annihilation than death. If I have no expectation of seeing my father, mother, brothers, sisters and friends again, my heart would burst in a moment, and I should go down to my grave. The expectation of seeing my friends in the morning of the resurrection cheers my soul and makes me bear up against the evils of life. It is like their taking a long journey, and on their return we meet them with increased joy.
 * History of the Church, 5:362 (16 April 1843)

 * There is no such thing as immaterial matter. All spirit is matter, but is more fine or pure, and can only be discerned by purer eyes. We cannot see it, but when our bodies are purified, we shall see that it is all matter.
 * Doctrine and Covenants, 131:7-8 (17 May 1843)

 * One of the grand fundamental principles of Mormonism is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may.
 * Discourses of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 199 (9 July 1843)

 * I see no faults in the Church, and therefore let me be resurrected with the Saints, whether I ascend to heaven or descend to hell, or go to any other place. And if we go to hell, we will turn the devils out of doors and make a heaven of it. Where this people are, there is good society. What do we care where we are, if the society be good? I don't care what a man's character is; if he's my friend—a true friend, I will be a friend to him, and preach the Gospel of salvation to him, and give him good counsel, helping him out of his difficulties.
 * History of the Church, 5:517 (23 July 1843)
 * Friendship is one of the grand fundamental principles of "Mormonism"; [it is designed] to revolutionize and civilize the world, and cause wars and contentions to cease and men to become friends and brothers.
 * History of the Church, 5:517 (23 July 1843)

 * Have the Presbyterians any truth? Yes. Have the Baptists, Methodists, &c., any truth? Yes. They all have a little truth mixed with error. We should gather all the good and true principles in the world and treasure them up, or we shall not come out true "Mormons."
 * History of the Church, 5:517 (23 July 1843)

 * There has been a great difficulty in getting anything into the heads of this generation. It has been like splitting hemlock knots with a corn-dodger for a wedge and a pumpkin for a beetle.
 * History of the Church, 6:184-85 (21 January 1844)

 * I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.
 * History of the Church, 6:408 (26 May 1844)

 * If my life is of no value to my friends it is of none to myself.
 * History of the Church, 6:549 (22 June 1844)
 * Smith's reply when friends accused him of cowardice for intending to leave Illinois to avoid legal prosecution.

 * I am going like a lamb to the slaughter; but I am calm as a summer's morning; I have a conscience void of offense toward God, and toward all men. I SHALL DIE INNOCENT, AND IT SHALL YET BE SAID OF ME — HE WAS MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD.
 * Doctrine and Covenants, 135:4 (22 June 1844)
 * Smith's comments upon deciding to go to Carthage for incarceration and to face legal prosecution.

 * [I]t is not always wise to relate all the truth. Even Jesus, the Son of God, had to refrain from doing so, and had to restrain His feelings many times for the safety of Himself and His followers, and had to conceal the righteous purposes of His heart in relation to many things pertaining to His Father's kingdom.
 * Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 392 (27 June 1844)

 * O Lord my God!
 * Doctrine and Covenants, 135:1 (27 June 1844)
 * Cried out by Smith as he fell to his death after being shot by a mob.

King Follett discourse (1844)

 * You don't know me; you never knew my heart. No man knows my history. I cannot tell it: I shall never undertake it. I don't blame any one for not believing my history. If I had not experienced what I have, I could not have believed it myself. . . . When I am called by the trump of the archangel and weighed in the balance, you will all know me then.
 * History of the Church 6:317 (7 April 1844)

 * I want to ask this congregation, every man, woman and child, to answer the question in their own heart, what kind of a being God is? . . . Does any man or woman know? Have any of you seen him, heard him, or communed with him? . . . God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make Himself visible,—I say, if you were to see Him today, you would see Him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with Him, as one man talks and communes with another. . . . It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that He was once a man like us; yea, that God Himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.
 * History of the Church, 6:303-04 (7 April 1844)

 * [T]he doctrine of a plurality of Gods is as prominent in the Bible as any other doctrine. . . . The head God organized the heavens and the earth. I defy all the world to refute me. In the beginning the heads of the Gods organized the heavens and the earth. Now the learned priests and the people rage, and the heathen imagine a vain thing. If we pursue the Hebrew text further, it reads, 'The head one of the Gods said, Let us make a man in our own image.' I once asked a learned Jew, 'If the Hebrew language compels us to render all words ending in heim in the plural, why not render the first Eloheim plural?' He replied, 'That is the rule with few exceptions; but in this case it would ruin the Bible.' He acknowledged I was right. . . . In the very beginning the Bible shows there is a plurality of Gods beyond the power of refutation. It is a great subject I am dwelling on. The word Eloheim ought to be in the plural all the way through—'Gods'. The heads of the Gods appointed one God for us; and when you take [that] view of the subject, its sets one free to see all the beauty, holiness and perfection of the Gods. All I want is to get the simple, naked truth, and the whole truth.
 * History of the Church, 6:474-76 (7 April 1844)

 * Many men say there is one God; the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are only one God. I say that is a strange God anyhow—three in one, and one in three! It is a curious organization. 'Father, I pray not for the world, but I pray for them which thou hast given me.' 'Holy Father, keep through Thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one as we are.' All are to be crammed into one God, according to sectarianism. It would make the biggest God in all the world. He would be a wonderfully big God—he would be a giant or a monster.
 * History of the Church, 6:476 (7 April 1844)

 * Where was there ever a son without a father? And where was there ever a father without first being a son? Whenever did a tree or anything spring into existence without a progenitor? And everything comes in this way. Paul says that which is earthly is in the likeness of that which is heavenly, Hence if Jesus had a Father, can we not believe that He had a Father also? I despise the idea of being scared to death at such a doctrine, for the Bible is full of it.

 * Element had an existence from the time he [God] had. The pure principles of element are principles which can never be destroyed; they may be organized and re-organized, but not destroyed. They had no beginning, and can have no end. . . . [T]he mind of man — the immortal spirit. Where did it come from? All learned men and doctors of divinity say that God created it in the beginning; but it is not so: the very idea lessens man in my estimation. I do not believe the doctrine; I know better. Hear it, all ye ends of the world; for God has told me so . . . We say that God himself is a self-existent being. Who told you so? It is correct enough; but how did it get into your heads? Who told you that man did not exist in like manner upon the same principles? Man does exist upon the same principles. God made a tabernacle and put a spirit into it, and it became a living soul. . . . The mind or the intelligence which man possesses is [co-eternal] with God himself. I know that my testimony is true . . . Is it logical to say that the intelligence of spirits is immortal, and yet that it had a beginning? The intelligence of spirits had no beginning, neither will it have an end. That is good logic. That which has a beginning may have an end. There never was a time when there were not spirits; for they are [co-eternal] with our Father in heaven. . . . I take my ring from my finger and liken it unto the mind of man—the immortal part, because it has no beginning. Suppose you cut it in two; then it has a beginning and an end; but join it again, and it continues one eternal round. So with the spirit of man. As the Lord liveth, if it had a beginning, it will have an end. All the fools and learned and wise men from the beginning of creation, who say that the spirit of man had a beginning, prove that it must have an end; and if that doctrine is true, then the doctrine of annihilation would be true. But if I am right, I might with boldness proclaim from the house-tops that God never had the power to create the spirit of man at all. God himself could not create himself.
 * History of the Church, 6:308-309 (7 April 1844)

 * You have to learn how to be Gods yourselves, and be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, namely by going from one small degree to another, and from a small capacity to a great one: from grace to grace FROM EXALTATION TO EXALTATION until you ATTAIN THE RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD."
 * History of the Church, 6:306 (7 April 1844)

Attributed to Joseph Smith, Jr.

 * I teach the people correct principles and they govern themselves.
 * Quoted by John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, 10:57-58 (18 May 1862)
 * When asked how he governed his followers in Nauvoo, Illinois.

 * Would to God, brethren, I could tell you who I am! Would to God I could tell you what I know! But you would call it blasphemy, and there are men upon this stand who would want to take my life.
 * Quoted by Orson F. Whtiney, Life of Heber C. Kimball (Salt Lake City: Kimball Family, 1888), 322

 * You will meet and become acquainted with your eternal Mother, the wife of your Father in Heaven… How could a Father claim His title unless there were also a Mother to share that parenthood?
 * Joseph Smith, n. d. (before his death on June 27, 1844), according to a reminiscence by Zina Diantha Huntington Young reported in Susa Young Gates, History of the Young Ladies’ Mutual Improvement Association of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Salt Lake City: Deseret News, 1911), 16.
 * Said in a conversation about the afterlife with Zina Diantha Huntington.

Quotes about Joseph Smith, Jr.

 * For someone who is not a Mormon, what matters most about Joseph Smith is how American both the man and his religion have proved to be. So self-created was he that he transcends Emerson and Whitman in my imaginative response, and takes his place with the great figures of our fiction, since at moments he appears far larger than life, in the mode of a Shakespearean character. So rich and varied a personality, so vital a spark of divinity, is almost beyond the limits of the human, as normally we construe those limits. To one who does not believe in him, but who has studied him intensely, Smith becomes almost a mythology in himself.
 * Harold Bloom, The American Religion (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1992), 127

 * Joseph was no hair-shirt prophet. He believed in the good life, with moderate self-indulgence in food and drink, occasional sport, and good entertainment. And that he succeeded in enjoying himself to the hilt detracted not at all from the semi-deification with which his own people enshrouded him. Any protests of impropriety dissolved before his personal charm. "Man is that he might have joy" had been one of his first significant pronouncements in the Book of Mormon, and from that belief he had never wavered. He was gregarious, expansive, and genuinely fond of people. And it is no accident that his theology in the end discarded all traces of Calvinism and became an ingenuous blend of supernaturalism and materialism, which promised in heaven a continuation of all earthly pleasures—work, wealth, sex, and power.
 * Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History; The Life of Joseph Smith (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1945), 294-95

 * We do not worship the Prophet. We worship God our Eternal Father and the risen Lord Jesus Christ. But we acknowledge the Prophet; we proclaim him; we respect him; we reverence him as an instrument in the hands of the Almighty in restoring to the earth the ancient truths of the divine gospel, together with the priesthood through which the authority of God is exercised in the affairs of His Church and for the blessing of His people.
 * Gordon B. Hinckley from Joseph Smith Jr.—Prophet of God, Mighty Servant

 * Joseph Smith, the Prophet and Seer of the Lord, has done more, save Jesus only, for the salvation of men in this world, than any other man that ever lived in it.
 * John Taylor, Doctrine and Covenants, 135:3

 * Once in the world's history we were to have a Yankee prophet, and we have had him in Joe Smith. For good or for evil, he has left his track on the great pathway of life—or, to use the words of Horne, "knocked out for himself a window in the wall of the nineteenth century," whence his rude, bold, good-humored face will peer out upon the generations to come.
 * John Greenleaf Whittier, The Stranger in Lowell (Boston: Waite, Peirce and Company, 1845), 31
 * I feel like shouting hallelujah, all the time, when I think that I ever knew Joseph Smith, the Prophet whom the Lord raised up and ordained, and to whom He gave keys and power to build up the kingdom of God on earth and sustain it.
 * Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, 3:51

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Talk:Politics

Shouldn't these quotes be organized somehow? Perhaps by alphabetical order?
 * I have started by placing them under different catagory headings. Alan Liefting 02:39, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Can i understand why all of the most appropriate quotes about anarchism that have been recently added, have been deleted without any explanation? i don't see a reason for the delete, and if you may, i would like to get an answer within a day.

thank you, Odo Odo 06:53, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced

 * La política es una forma de la maldad. El mayor error que he cometido en mi vida.
 * Politics is a form of evil. The greatest mistake of my life.
 * Mario Vargas Llosa

Standardizing headings
I've standardized the headings in this article to follow wiki policy on capitalization and other style characteristics. I've also changed Reform, campaign finance to a less indexy-sounding Campaign finance reform and made it a subheading under Reform. But one problem remains. Iraq War is apparently meant to be about the 2003 invasion of Iraq and related topics, but "Iraq War" is an ambiguous, POV term. How can we rename this collection of quotes in an NPOV but less-than-cumbersome manner? — Jeff Q (talk) 14:21, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

 * What's wrong with 2003 Invasion of Iraq? (For lots of answers to my question, see w:Talk:2003_Invasion_of_Iraq) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:14, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

war
If military service began at age 50+ war would be very rare.

Errors
There are two Ambrose Bierce definitions of Politics, strange considering he only wrote one. Several quotes appear in multiple places, also I fail to see how quotes from 20 or 30 years ago can have anything to do with the Iraq War, as it didn't happen until only a few ago and the other war in Iraq was the Guld war and still well after those quotes. Who the hell is Carl Borgen, I thought Wiki had standards as to who is considered and people writing about themselves and putting in spam for their own stuff was a no no.

Near-complete absence of citations
Almost nothing in this page includes a proper citation. We should aim to fix that. (It might resolve some of the issues noted above, if they have not already been.) 121a0012 15:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Boojum
This is probably a silly question, but why are the last few lines of The Hunting of the Snark listed under Politicians and Lawyers? 87.254.71.190
 * No clear reason at all. I've just removed it. ~ NEO 20:44, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm just a passerby and not really familiar with the customs round here so excuse me for not just moving things around myself but there's another heading 27.3 The "Masses" . The first couple of items under it maybe fit okay, the third one seems a bit of a stretch for the context but okay... the fourth through eighth sound like they're ripped off from despair.com posters (though maybe despair.com got them from quotations) and mostly aren't attributed to anyone. The final one (George Bush) sounds like it's made up and is obviously about a different sort of 'mass'es. 87.254.71.190 21:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Iraq War quotations
I'm unconvinced that most of these are actually about politics, which is the subject of this theme page. There are more appropriate theme pages for quotations about military strategy, Rumsfeldisms, etc. They don't belong here. 121a0012 06:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

"War" section
I'm moving the quotations that do not seem to be on-topic from the "War" section here. You are welcome to move them back, individually, with complete source citations, if you have some reason to believe they are actually about politics, the subject of this page. 121a0012 16:51, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Every government does as much harm as it can, and as much good as it must. ~ Nicholas Walter

 * If we cannot by reason, by influence, by example, by strenuous effort, and by personal sacrifice, mend the bad places of civilization, we certainly cannot do it by force. ~ Auberon Herbert

 * Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius — and a lot of courage — to move in the opposite direction. ~ Albert Einstein

 * History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes. ~ Mark Twain

 * The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions. ~ Robert Lynd

 * How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it. ~ Marcus Aurelius

 * I can make more generals, but horses cost money. ~ Abraham Lincoln

 * If it were proved to me that in making war, my ideal had a chance of being realized, I would still say 'No' to war. For one does not create human society on mounds of corpses. ~ Louis Lecoin, French pacifist leader

 * It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways. ~ Buddha

 * Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding. ~ Albert Einstein

 * The pioneers of a warless world are the young men (and women) who refuse military service. ~ Albert Einstein

 * The price of greatness is responsibility. ~ Winston Churchill

 * There is nothing that war has ever achieved that we could not better achieve without it. ~ Havelock Ellis

 * To build may have to be the slow and laborious task of years. To destroy can be the thoughtless act of a single day. ~ Sir Winston Churchill

 * War does not determine who is right — only who is left. ~ Bertrand Russell

 * War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. ~ John Stuart Mill

 * War is, at first, the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn't any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone's being worse off. ~ Karl Kraus

 * Warmaking doesn't stop warmaking. If it did, our problems would have stopped millennia ago. ~ Colman McCarthy

 * We must be prepared to make heroic sacrifices for the cause of peace that we make ungrudgingly for the cause of war. There is no task that is more important or closer to my heart. ~ Albert Einstein

 * Were the Soviet Union to sink tomorrow under the waters of the ocean, the American military-industrial establishment would have to go on, substantially unchanged, until some other adversary could be invented. Anything else would be an unacceptable shock to the American economy. ~ George Kennan (1987)

 * The world cannot continue to wage war like physical giants and to seek peace like intellectual pygmies. ~ Basil O'Connor

 * Why is it the Mongols of this world always tell us they're defending us against the Mongols? ~ Edward Whittemore, Nile Shadows (1983)

 * And I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush Administration again. ~ Fox News's Bill O'Reilly, on Good Morning America (18 March 2003)

 * Excuse me, I am not convinced. I cannot go to the public and say, well let's go to war... and I don't believe in it myself. ~ German foreign minister Fischer to US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld about the necessity of a war on Iraq (February 8 2003)

 * Based on my experience with the administration in the months leading up to the war, I have little choice but to conclude that some of the intelligence related to Iraq's nuclear weapons program was twisted to exaggerate the Iraqi threat. ~ ex-Ambassador Joseph Wilson (July 6 2003)

 * By invading Iraq, the president has greatly undermined the war on terrorism. ~ Richard A. Clarke, former National Security Council Special Advisor (24 March 2004)

 * Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof, the smoking gun that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud. ~ George W. Bush in Cinncinati (October 2002)

 * He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983. ~ Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser (18 February 1998)

 * History is made by angry minorities, not by passive majorities. ~ Fareed Zakaria on insurgent action in Iraq, This Week with George Stephanopoulos (15 August 2004)

 * Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies. ~ Madeline Albright Clinton Secretary of State, (10 November 1999)

 * I asked for universal health care and all I got was this lousy stealth bomber. ~ Daniel Brooks, anti-war protestor (18 January 2003)

 * I believe demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk. ~ Ken Adelman, defense policy board member (13 Febuary 2002)

 * I think this is a very hard choice, but the price, we think the price is worth it. ~ Madeleine Albright, May 12, 1996 — On whether the cost to the Iraqi people, due to sanctions against Iraq, including the deaths of children, could be justified. Later she wrote of that response, "I should have answered the question by reframing it and pointing out the inherent flaws in the premise behind it. …  My reply had been a terrible mistake, hasty, clumsy, and wrong. …  I had fallen into a trap and said something that I simply did not mean.  That is no one’s fault but my own.

 * I think these people are the last remnants of a dying cause. ~ Paul Wolfowitz (18 June 2003)

 * I voted for the 87 billion, before I voted against it ~ John Kerry

 * If you are looking at a map of the world and wondering where the United States is, you can find it over there, trapped between Iraq and a hard place. ~ John Bell Smithback, writer of Idiom-Magic (15 July 2005)

 * In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. ~ Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D, NY) (10 October 2002)

 * Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power. ~ Al Gore, (September 2002)

 * Iraq will not require sustained aid. ~ Mitch Daniels, (28 March 2003)

 * It's disingenuous for the State Department people to say they were bamboozled because they knew about this for a year. ~ Ambassador Joseph Wilson, (6 May 2003) in an anonymous interview with New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof, on the absence of evidence of an Iraqi nuclear program or weapons.

 * Japan is the second largest donor in Iraq after the United States, with over $5 billion dollars for humanitarian, infrastructure and reconstruction projects. ~ Michael K. Simpson

 * There is a possibility, Rockefeller says, that the fabrication of these [Niger] documents may be part of a larger deception campaign aimed at manipulating public opinion and foreign policy regarding Iraq. ~ Senator Jay Rockefeller (D. WVa) (21 March 2003), writing to FBI Director Robert Mueller asking for an investigation of the Niger letters.

 * Major combat operations have ended. ~ George W. Bush (1 May 2003)

 * My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators. ~ Dick Cheney (16 March 2003)

 * Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process. ~ Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), (16 December 1998)

 * Saddam Hussein has not developed any significant capacity with respect to weapons of mass destruction. He is unable to project conventional power against his neighbors. ~ Secretary of State Colin Powell (24 February 2001)

 * Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam now has weapons of mass destruction. ~ Dick Cheney, vice president of USA, (26 August 2002)

 * The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons. ~ Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV) (3 October 2002)

 * We are able to keep his [Saddam's] arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt. NSC advisor Condoleezza Rice (29 July 2001)

 * We do know that [Saddam] is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon. ~ Condoleezza Rice, (10 September 2002)

 * We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. ~ Condoleezza Rice (September 2002)

 * We knew how to fight Not so; building a NATION We may lose the PEACE
 * Senryu by Colonel Steve Rotkoff, former U.S. Army Intelligence officer
 * Quoted in
 * Cited by

 * We know where [the weapons] are. They're in an area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, north and south somewhat. ~ Donald Rumsfeld (30 March 2003)

 * You have a mixture of a small number of terrorists, a small number of militias, coupled with some demonstrations and some lawlessness. ~ Donald Rumsfeld (9 April 2004)

 * You know, I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over. I don't believe he went in there for oil. We didn't go in there for imperialist or financial reasons. We went in there because he bought the Wolfowitz-Cheney analysis that the Iraqis would be better off, we could shake up the authoritarian Arab regimes in the Middle East, and our leverage to make peace between the Palestinians and Israelis would be increased. ~ Bill Clinton (Time Magazine, June 2004)

 * The Dick Cheney shooting incident shows what happens when you put the kids in charge of the kindergarten and let them play with guns. Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo show what happens when you put them in charge of other kids without responsible adult supervision. The Iraq war shows what happens when you put the lunatics in charge of the asylum and let them play with real armies. ~ Letter to the editor, The Age Newspaper (Australia) (20 February 2006)

 * The war in Iraq is about winning over the minds of the Iraqis. Unfortunately the president continues to see Iraq as a military war. ~ Seargent First Class Willams

 * When I started to hold the Democratic Party to the same standards that I held the Republican Party, support for my cause started to erode and the "left" started labeling me with the same slurs that the right used. I guess no one paid attention to me when I said that the issue of peace and people dying for no reason is not a matter of "right or left", but "right and wrong." ~ Cindy Sheehan (29 May, 2007)

 * I was born about a quarter of a mile from where we are sitting now and I was here in London during the Blitz. And every night I went down into the shelter. 500 people killed, my brother was killed, my friends were killed. And when the Charter of the UN was read to me, I was a pilot coming home in a troop ship: 'We the peoples of the United Nations determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war, which twice in our lifetime has brought untold sorrow to mankind.' That was the pledge my generation gave to the younger generation and you tore it up. And it's a war crime that's been committed in Iraq, because there is no moral difference between a stealth bomber and a suicide bomber. Both kill innocent people for political reasons. - Tony Benn, ex-Labour Party MP, (22 March 2007)

"Misstatements and tautologies" section
More off-topic cruft looking for a better home with a proper citation:

 * When a great many people are unable to find work, unemployment results. ~ Calvin Coolidge (ex-president, discussing the United States economic situation in 1931)

 * China is a big country, inhabited by many Chinese. ~ Charles de Gaulle

 * If Lincoln was alive today, he'd roll over in his grave. ~ Gerald Ford

 * Things are more like they are now than they have ever been. ~ Gerald Ford

 * I love sports. Whenever I can, I always watch the Detroit Tigers on the radio. ~ Gerald Ford

 * There is a mandate to impose a voluntary return to traditional values. ~ Ronald Reagan

 * Wait a minute! I'm not interested in agriculture. I want the military stuff. ~ Senator William Scott, during a briefing in which officials began telling him about missile silos

 * The proof is the proof, and if we have the proof, then that is the proof, and if it's a good proof it's because it's been proven. ~ Jean Chrétien

 * Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, 'Thank God I'm still alive. But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again.' ~ Sen. Barbara Boxer

 * They believe sentences imposed by juries should be carried out. ~ George W. Bush

 * I think we all agree, the past is over. ~ George W. Bush

More deletia
I've removed the following (mostly unsourced) quotes as being off-topic:

 * I must create my own System, or be enslaved by another Man's. I will not Reason and Compare — my business is to Create! ~ William Blake

 * 'Art and not morality is represented as the actual metaphysical activity of mankind' ~ Friedrich Nietzsche, The Birth of Tragedy

 * Some teachers of mankind--as Plato, the first Christians, the orthodox Muslims, and the Buddhists--have gone so far as to repudiate art. [They consider it] so highly dangerous in its power to infect people against their wills, that mankind will lose far less by banishing all art than by tolerating each and every art. Such people were wrong in repudiating all art, for they denied that which cannot be denied--one of the indispensable means of communication, without which mankind could not exist. Now there is only fear, lest we should be deprived of any pleasures art can afford, so any type of art is patronized. And I think the last error is much grosser than the first and that its consequences are far more harmful. ~ Leo Tolstoy What is Art? (1896)

 * The free market is ugly and stupid, like going to the mall; the unfree market is just as ugly and just as stupid, except there is nothing in the mall and if you don't go there they shoot you. ~ P.J. O'Rourke

 * The right to suffer is one of the joys of a free economy. ~ Howard Pyle (aide to President Dwight D. Eisenhower, commenting on the unemployment situation in Detroit)

 * Those who are responsible for the national security must be the sole judges of what the national security requires. It would be obviously undesirable that such matters should be made the subject of evidence in a court of law or otherwise discussed in public. ~ Unattributed member of the The House of Lords discussing the removal of trade union rights at GCHQ, (1984)

 * No beacon shines with greater vivacity than that resurrected by oppression. ~ Anonymous

 * A recognition that there is a bit of Torquemada in everyone should make us wary of any attempt to enforce a consensus or demonize those who challenge it. ~ What is Your Dangerous Idea? (2007) ed., John Brockman, "Introduction," Steven Pinker, p. xxxi.

 * Censorship is stopping a man from eating steak because a baby cant chew it. -Mark Twain

 * Even grass we will eat ~ Ramiz Alia, former Albanian president said that during an interview, when asked about Albania opening to the democracy.

 * Why is it the Mongols of this world always tell us they're defending us against the Mongols? ~ Edward Whittemore, Nile Shadows (1983)

 * Sunlight is the best disinfectant.
 * Common paraphrase of Louis Brandeis, Other People's Money—and How Bankers Use It (1914): "Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants; electric light the most efficient policeman."

 * We have to face the fact that either all of us are going to die together or we are going to learn to live together and if we are to live together we have to talk. ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

 * I feel the happiest when I can light my American cigarettes with Soviet matches. ~ Mohammed Daud Khan, President of Afghanistan, 1973-1978

 * Ultimately European anti-Americanism isn’t our problem. It’s Europe’s problem. ~ Denis Boyles

I've never asked for a square inch of England, neither a square inch of Europe. So Blair, keep your England, and let me keep my Zimbabwe. Robert Gabriel Mugabe (2002,U N Summit, Cape Town )
 * Sometimes I must speak other than I think, that's called diplomacy. ~ Stilgar, a naib in Frank Herbert 's Dune Messiah

 * Learn as much by writing as by reading. ~ Lord Acton

 * The empires of the future are the empires of the mind. ~ Winston Churchill

 * An educated nation have a lot of ideas, an un-educated nation don't have ideas, it limits to follow someone ~ Vasco E. G. Lima e Silva

 * A Bill of Rights that means what the majority wants it to mean, is worthless. ~ U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia

 * Few men desire liberty; The majority are satisfied with a just master. ~ Sallust

 * I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of oral-genital intimacy unless it has in some way obstructed inter-state commerce. ~ J. Edgar Hoover

 * Justice delayed is justice denied. Martin Luther King, Jr.

~ Patrick Pearse, from his graveside oration at the funeral of the Fenian Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa, 1 August 1915.
 * Life springs from death; and from the graves of patriot men and women spring living nations.

 * Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have. ~ Barry Goldwater

 * The difference between a republic and a people's republic is a lot like the difference between a jacket and a strait jacket. ~ Ronald Reagan

 * The man who prefers his country before any other duty shows the same spirit as the man who surrenders every right to the state. They both deny that right is superior to authority. ~ Lord Acton

 * The most certain test by which we judge whether a country is really free is the amount of security enjoyed by minorities. ~ Lord Acton

 * There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order. ~ Ed Howdershelt

 * When the people are being beaten with a stick, they are not much happier if it is called 'the People's Stick.' ~ Mikhail Bakunin in Statism and Anarchy

 * Whenever a separation is made between liberty and justice, neither, in my opinion, is safe. ~ Edmund Burke

 * I do not believe that the United States should be bound by the same rules as the smallest African nation. Life isn't like that. ~ Richard Perle, USA Pentagon advisor

 * It is not for him to pride himself who loveth his own country, but rather for him who loveth the whole world. The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens. ~ Baha'u'llah

attributed to President Charles de Gaulle, on Franco-German treaty talks, Time (12 July 1963)
 * Treaties are like roses and young girls; they last while they last. ~ Charles de Gaulle;

 * We [the U.S.] have about 50% of the world’s wealth but only 6.3% of the world’s population.… Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity without positive detriment to our national security. ~ George Kennan, former member of the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff (1948) as quoted by Thomas H. Etzold and John Lewis Gaddis in Containment: Documents on American Policy and Strategy, 1945-1950 (1978)

 * I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually. ~ James Baldwin

 * If we do not believe in freedom of speech for those we despise we do not believe in it at all. ~ Noam Chomsky

 * I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. ~ Evelyn Beatrice Hall, commenting on an attitude of Voltaire in an expression which has often been misattributed to him.

 * You had the right to say: my worst enemy has the right to be free, on condition that he not ask for my death or that of my brothers. You did not have the right to say: my worst enemy is a comrade. You did not have the right to take a falsifier of history and to recast him in the colors of truth. ~ Pierre Vidal-Naquet

 * Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. ~ George Orwell

 * When women are depressed, they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country. It's a whole different way of thinking. ~ Elayne Boosler

 * A zebra does not change its spots. ~ Al Gore

 * It takes a great man to be a good listener. ~ Calvin Coolidge

 * You don't have to explain something you never said. ~ Calvin Coolidge

 * Property, once exposed, requires the terror of capital punishment to protect it. ~ Archdeacon Paley: Principles

 * Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits. ~ Josiah Stamp, Governor of the Bank of England (1920)

 * It's not about guns — it's about control.

 * A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks. ~ Thomas Jefferson to Peter Carr (1785) The Writings of Thomas Jefferson, (Memorial Edition) Lipscomb and Bergh, editors.

 * Mankind's greatest flaw is man itself. Without mankind, there would exist none of the problems we have today. ~Michael Suggs

 * A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it the superficial appearance of being right, and raises at first a formidable cry in defense of custom. But the tumult soon subsides. Time makes more converts than reason. ~ Thomas Paine (1776)

 * History is a long and tragic story of the fact that privileged groups seldom give up their privileges voluntarily. ~ Martin Luther King, Letter from Birmingham Jail (1963)

 * I never saw so many shocking bad hats in my life. (on seeng the first Reformed Parliament) ~ Duke of Wellington, W. Frazer Words on Wellington (1889)

 * Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. ~ Albert Einstein

 * It is no use saying, 'We are doing our best.' You have got to succeed in doing what is necessary. ~ Winston Churchill

 * Most of the important things in the world have been accomplished by people who have kept on trying when there seemed to be no hope at all. ~ Dale Carnegie

 * Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. ~ Confucius

 * Out of perfection nothing can be made. Every process involves breaking something up. ~ Joseph Campbell

 * The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them. ~ Albert Einstein

 * Promise people something and they'll just have to wait for it. ~ Anonymous

 * The neoconservative revival is a profound and, in many ways, a heartening phenomenon. For the neoconservative sees through the emptiness of the present and the poverty of the modern subject. The neoconservative knows that a present without past memory and tradition is self-illusory and finally self-destructive. The neoconservative knows that a subject without community and tradition is very soon little else that the modern possessive individual rendered passive and historyless. The neoconservative sees the folly of the Enlightenment’s wholesale attack on the very concept of tradition. She or he senses the unreality of the assumed universalism in Western liberal social-evolutionary schemas applied to history. The neoconservative notes the wasteful and complacent obstruction of the rich resources of the tradition. She or he knows the need to retrieve these resources anew in our parlous times if we are to maintain any truly Christian identity at all. ~ David Tracy, On Naming the Present

 * Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. ~ Napoleon Bonaparte

 * [In the West] unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without any need for an official ban. ~ George Orwell

 * This is something, eh, that is the kind of thing that must be gone through with what I believe is best not talked about too much until we know whatever answers there will be. ~ President Dwight D. Eisenhower, responding to questions about the investigation of J. Robert Oppenheimer's supposed Communist sympathies''

 * If we do not maintain Justice, Justice will not maintain us. ~ Francis Bacon

 * The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. ~ Edmund Burke

 * The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. ~ Albert Einstein

Many of these are excellent quotations but should be sourced properly and added to a more appropriate theme page. (If you disagree and think that one of these is actually about politics, please feel free to move it back after you've supplied a complete source citation.) 121a0012 03:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced

 * I consider myself a citizen of the world! ~ Charlie Chaplin (refers to Socrates [?]).

 * You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.
 * Malcolm X

 * None more rare than a seasoned, honest politician. Tony Plunkett (2014)

 * People say I steal. Well, all politicians steal. ~ Huey P. Long

 * A thief is more moral than a congressman; when a thief steals your money, he doesn't demand you thank him. ~ Walter Williams

 * Socialism needs democracy like the human body needs oxygen. ~ Leon Trotsky

 * Democracy is more dangerous than fire. Fire can't vote itself immune to water. ~ Michael Z. Williamson

 * Votes count, but resources decide ~ Stein Rokkan

 * There is only one difference between dictatorship and democracy. In democracy, you vote and then take orders; in dictatorship you don't waste time voting. ~ Charles Bukowski

 * What good fortune for governments that the people do not think ~ Adolf Hitler

 * They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
 * Benjamin Franklin

 * It will be years — not in my time — before a woman will become Prime Minister. ~ Margaret Thatcher (1974).

 * A disordered currency is one of the greatest political evils.
 * Daniel Webster

 * All growth, including political growth, is the result of risk-taking.
 * Jude Wanniski in The Wall Street Journal.

 * All politics are based on the indifference of the majority.
 * James Reston

 * The best politics is right action.
 * Mahatma Gandhi

 * The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun.
 * R. Buckminster Fuller

 * Envy is the cause of political division.
 * Democritus

 * Everything you do is political.
 * Nandor Tanczos

 * Good politics are often inextricably intertwined.
 * Morris Udall

 * In politics an absurdity is not a handicap.
 * Napoleon Bonaparte

 * The key to understanding the American system is to imagine that you have the power to make nearly any law you want. But your worst enemy will be the one to enforce it.
 * Rick Cook

 * No amount of political freedom will satisfy the hungry masses.
 * Vladimir Lenin (1917).

 * Nothing is so admirable in politics as a short memory.
 * John Kenneth Galbraith

 * Politics is a concentric series of conspiracies in which the last party to conspire emerges victorious
 * George Obiozor

 * Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.
 * Groucho Marx

 * Politics is the art of putting people under obligation to you.
 * Jacob L. Arvey (1990?).

 * Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects.
 * Lester B. Pearson

 * Politics offers yesterday's answers to today's problems.
 * Marshall McLuhan

 * Stupidity is not a handicap in politics.
 * Napoleon Bonaparte

 * Therefore, the good of man must be the end of the science of politics.
 * Aristotle

 * University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.
 * Henry Kissinger

 * We live in a world in which politics has replaced philosophy.
 * Martin L. Gross

 * What's real in politics is what the voters decide is real.
 * Ben J. Wattenberg

 * Yes, we have to divide up our time like that, between our politics and our equations. But to me our equations are far more important, for politics are only a matter of present concern. A mathematical equation stands forever.
 * Albert Einstein

 * They say that politics is the second oldest profession. I find that it bears a very close resemblance to the first.
 * Ronald Reagan

 * The problem with political jokes is that they get elected.
 * Variously attributed to Will Rogers and George Bernard Shaw

 * What do you call a politician displaying his honesty in public? A rare work of art...
 * Anonymous

 * The only way I can lose this election is if I'm caught in bed with either a dead girl or a live boy.
 * Edwin W. Edwards

 * A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground.
 * H.L. Mencken

 * Politics is perhaps the only profession for which no preparation is thought necessary.
 * Robert Louis Stevenson

 * Politics is the entertainment industry for ugly people.
 * Mark Turpin

 * They [the people] may forget what you said, but they will never forget how you made them feel.
 * Carl W. Buechner

 * The greatest lesson in life is to know that even fools are right sometimes.
 * Winston Churchill

 * Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you really want to test his character, give him power.
 * Abraham Lincoln

 * In public policy, it matters less who has the best arguments and more who gets heard — and by whom.
 * Ralph Reed, head of Christian Coalition, in memo to Enron executives, (2000).

 * Talking to politicians is fine, but with a little money they hear you better.
 * Justin Dart, chairman, Port Industries (1982).

 * Politics has gotten so expensive that it takes a lot of money to even get beat with.
 * Will Rogers (1931).

 * There are two things you need for success in politics. Money and I can't think of the other.
 * Senator Mark Hannah (R-OH), 1903.

 * All the perplexities, confusion and distress in America arise not from defects in their Constitution or Confederation, nor from the want of honor or virtue, so much as the downright ignorance of the nature of coin, credit and circulation.
 * John Adams

 * History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance.
 * James Madison

 * If congress has the right under the Constitution to issue paper money, it was given them to use themselves, not to be delegated to individuals or corporations.
 * Andrew Jackson

 * Let me issue and control a nation's money, and I care not who writes its laws.
 * Mayer Amschel Rothschild (1790).

 * If we Americans are split into two meaningful camps, it is not conservative versus liberal. The two camps are the politically awake and the hypnotized.
 * Doris "Granny D" Haddock

 * In politics, there are things which you do but don't talk about them and things which you talk about but don't do anything.
 * Constantine Karamanlis

 * The streets are safe in Philadelphia — it's only the people who make them unsafe.
 * Frank Rizzo, ex-police chief and mayor of Philadelphia

 * Rifles, muskets, long-bows and hand-grenades are inherently democratic weapons. A complex weapon makes the strong stronger, while a simple weapon — so long as there is no answer to it — gives claws to the weak.
 * George Orwell

 * If there is anything a public servant hates to do it's something for the public.
 * Anonymous

 * The great masses of the people will more easily fall victim to a big lie, than to a small one.
 * Adolf Hitler

 * Reason accepts no authority above itself and is necessarily subversive.~ Allan Bloom

 * A reform is a correction of abuses; a revolution is a transfer of power.
 * Edward Bulwer-Lytton

 * You cannot impose ideologies on people who do not embrace it wholeheartedly.
 * Peter F. Hamilton (through character Endron) in The Neutronium Alchemist.

 * Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
 * President John F. Kennedy

 * We must reform if we would conserve.
 * Franklin Delano Roosevelt

 * Reform is not for the shortwinded.
 * Arthur Vanderbilt, New Jersey Supreme Court Justice (1949).

 * Today's political campaigns function as collection agencies for broadcasters. You simply transfer money from contributors to television stations.
 * Senator Bill Bradley, 2000.

 * We've got a real irony here. We have politicians selling access to something we all own -our government. And then we have broadcasters selling access to something we all own — our airwaves. It's a terrible system.
 * Newton Minow, former Federal Communications Commission chairman (2000).

 * You're more likely to see Elvis again than to see this bill pass the Senate.
 * Senator Mitch McConnell (R-KY) (1999) on the McCain-Feingold Bill on Campaign Reform

 * Unless we fundamentally change this system, ultimately campaign finance will consume our democracy.
 * Representative Lloyd Doggett (D-TX) (1996).

 * [Buckley v. Valeo is] one of the most weakly reasoned, poorly written, initially contradictory court opinions I've ever read.
 * Senator (and former federal district court judge) George J. Mitchell (D-ME) (1990).

 * We don't buy votes. What we do is we buy a candidate's stance on an issue.
 * Allen Pross, executive director, California Medical Association's PAC (1989).

 * Political action committees and moneyed interests are setting the nation's political agenda. Are we saying that only the rich have brains in this country? Or only people who have influential friends who have money can be in the Senate?
 * Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) (1988).

 * The day may come when we'll reject the money of the rich as tainted, but it hadn't come when I left Tammany Hall at 11:25 today.
 * George Washington Plunkett (1905).

 * Difference of religion breeds more quarrels than difference of politics.
 * Wendell Phillips

 * Decisions are made by those who show up.
 * unknown; variously attributed to Woody Allen and Harry S Truman.

 * If voting changed anything they’d abolish it.
 * Ken Livingstone

 * It is not the function of our government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the government from falling into error.
 * Robert H. Jackson, United States Attorney General & Assoc. Justice

 * The French approach election differently than the Americans... they vote.
 * Bill Maher

 * Things being investigated, knowledge became complete. Their knowledge being complete, their thoughts were sincere. Their thoughts being sincere, their hearts were rectified. Their hearts being rectified, their persons were cultivated. Their persons being cultivated, their families were regulated. Their families being regulated, their states were rightly governed. Their states being rightly governed, the whole kingdom was made tranquil and happy.
 * Confucius

 * Next time they give you all that civic bullshit about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in a full, free democratic election.
 * George Carlin

 * Voter apathy was, and will remain the greatest threat to democracy.
 * Hazen Pingree, former mayor of Detroit and governor of Michigan.

 * Democracy (in America) means you have to pretend to care about 51 percent of the people once in four years.
 * Variously attributed

 * The most important political office is that of private citizen.
 * Louis Dembitz Brandeis American Supreme Court Justice.

"Imperium et libertas."
"One of the greatest of Romans, when asked what were his politics, replied, "Imperium et libertas." That would not make a bad programme for a British Ministry. Randolph Churchill, speech, Mansion House, London (Nov. 10, 1879)." Error! In fact, Benjamin Disraeli.77.50.30.241 11:00, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * Such are the times, that the mere presentation of a can be a political act.
 * Huma Yusuf, Missing rights (04 May, 2020), Dawn

The quote is also in about 24 other wikiquote articles. The Dawn is a Pakistani newspaper. Huma Yusuf is a Pakistani columnist, (subject has no wikipedia page).

The topic of reports is fine.

But this is a high level article about quotes on politics. This article should have more quotes from books, rather than websites or newspapers, that have timeless quotability.

Would it not be better if this quote be moved to the article report? --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 10:08, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

 * The concern is of course not because the quote is from a particular country or newspaper. I would have (almost) the same concern if random quotes from the NYT are quoted. There is an overabundance of quotes from newspapers when timeless quotes from books should be preferred at least in high level articles like this one. --დამოკიდებულება (talk) 11:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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The Boondock Saints

The Boondock Saints is a 1999 American-Canadian film about two Irish American brothers in South Boston who, in response to rampant organized crime, turn to vigilantism and are named Saints by the Boston press. It was followed by 2009 sequel The Boondock Saints II: All Saints Day.
 * ''Written and directed by Troy Duffy (who also has a cameo in the bar scene).

Thy Kingdom Come. Thy Will Be Done. (taglines)

Paul Smecker, F.B.I.

 * [After proving the Boston detectives wrong] We'll start the ass-kissing with you.
 * Now, you Irish cops are perking up. That's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deal with abnormally sized men. Kind of makes me feel like Riverdancing. [Begins dancing]
 * There was a fire-fight!!
 * Cuddle? What a fag.

Dialogue

 * Monseigneur: And I am reminded on this holy day of the sad story of Kitty Genovese. As you all may remember, long time ago almost 30 years ago. This poor soul cried out for help time and time again, but no person answered her calls. Though many saw, no one so much as called the police. They all just watched as Kitty was being stabbed to death in broad daylight. They watched as her assailant walked away. Now, we must all fear evil men. But, there is another kind of evil which we must fear most … and that is the indifference of good men!
 * Connor: [As the brothers exit the church] I do believe the Monseigneur's finally got the point.
 * Murphy: Aye.

 * Ivan Checkov: I am Ivan Checkov, and you will be closing now.
 * Murphy: Checkov? Well, this here's McCoy. We find a Spock, we got us an away team.
 * Checkov: Me in no mood for discussion. You, you stay. The rest of you, go now.
 * Doc: Why don't you make like a tree, and get the fuck outa hea!
 * Connor: You know he's got til the weeks end, right? You don't have to be hard asses, do ya?
 * Murphy: It's St. Paddy's Day, everyone's Irish tonight. Why don't you just pull up a stool and have a drink with us?
 * Checkov: This is no game! If you won't go... we will make you go.

 * Detective Dolly: So, what's the symbology there?
 * Paul Smecker: Symbology? Now that Duffy's relinquished his "King Bonehead" crown, I see we have an heir to the throne! I'm sure the word you were looking for was symbolism. What is the ssss-himbolism there? Let me explain it to you. In Greek and Roman mythology, when you died, you would have to pay the toll to Charon, the boatman who ferried you across to the gates of judgment. This made sure the dead came to atone for what they did during their lives, Detective Dollypoposkallius.
 * Detective Dolly: Jesus, you're the first one that ever got that!
 * Paul Smecker: Yeah, well, I'm an expert in … nameology!

 * Connor: [Picking out weapons and gear] Do you know what we need, man? Some rope.
 * Murphy: Absolutely. What are you, insane?
 * Connor: No, I ain't. 's always got rope.
 * Murphy: What?
 * Connor: Yeah. He's got a lot of rope strapped around him in the movies, and they always end up using it.
 * Murphy: You've lost it, haven't you?
 * Connor: No, I'm serious.
 * Murphy: Me too. That's stupid. Name one thing you gonna need a rope for.
 * Connor: You don't fucking know what you're gonna need it for. They just always need it.
 * Murphy: What's this "they" shit? This isn't a movie.
 * Connor: Oh, right. [Picks up large knife out of Murphy's bag] Is that right, Rambo?
 * Murphy: All right. Get your stupid fucking rope.
 * Connor: I'll get my stupid rope. I'll get it. This is a rope right here.

 * [After crawling aimlessly around in the air ventilation]
 * Murphy: Where the fuck are you going?
 * Connor: Shh, I'm figuring some shit out here.
 * Murphy: Oh fuck you! I'm sweating my ass off dragging your fucking rope around! Must weigh thirty pounds.
 * Connor: Shh! We are doing some serious shit here, now get a fucking hold of yourself!
 * Murphy: Oh fuck you, I'm not the rope-toting Charlie Bronson wannabe that's getting us fucking lost!
 * Connor: Will you fucking shut it?!
 * [The two begin to fight in the air shaft]

 * Yakavetta: I'm having a shitty day. I'm depressed. Tell me a funny joke.
 * Rocco: Now? A joke? Uh … um, uh … a joke. Yeah, all right. Um … there's these, uh, three guys, uh … a-a-a-a spic, a-a-a-a white guy and a black guy.
 * Yakavetta: Nigger.
 * Rocco: Yeah, n-n… yeah. And-and they walk along the beach, they see this pot, they rub it, genie comes out. Genie says, you know, "You wish for anything you want." So, he asks, uh-uh, Mexican what-what he wants, and he goes, uh, uh, "I want, uh, all my people in America to be happy and free and in Mexico." And so, genie – poof! And all the spics are in Mexico. And then he asks the black guy …
 * Vincenzo Lipazzi: Nigger.
 * Rocco: Yeah, that's what I said. Goes to the, uh-uh, nigger, says, uh, "What do you want?" And he goes, um, uh, "I want all my African – my nigger brothers in America to be back in Africa, and-and happy and everything." You know? So, genie goes poof! And, um, all the niggers in America are in Africa. And, uh, uh, uh, this is go – I'm not funny today. I-I know. I'm havin' a hard day. I-I-I – this joke sucks. It's-it's-it's a stupid joke.
 * Yakavetta: Continue the joke.
 * Rocco: So the genie says to the white guy, uh, um, "What's your one wish?" And the white guy goes, "You mean to tell me all the niggers and spics are out of America?" Genie goes, "Yeah." He says, "Well, um, I'll have a Coke, then."
 * [After a long pause followed by much laughter]
 * Yakavetta: Tell me one more.
 * Rocco: What?

 * Murphy: We're sorta like 7-Eleven. We're not always doing business, but we're always open.
 * Connor: That is nicely put.

 * [Smecker gets a phone call in bed with his gay asian lover who puts arms over him even more and Smecker slaps him]
 * Paul Smecker: What are you doing?
 * Hojo: I just wanted to cuddle.
 * Paul Smecker: Cuddle? What a fag. [Gets out of bed and walks away]

 * Rocco: [Seeing a room full of mobsters killed by Connor and Murphy] Fuckin' … what the fuckin' fuck … who the fuck … fuck this fuckin' … how the fuck did you two fuckin' fucks … fuck!
 * Connor: Well, that certainly illustrates the diversity of the word.

 * Donna: You killed my... my...
 * Rocco: Your what?
 * Donna: My...
 * Rocco: Your fuckin' what? Huh? Your what, bitch?
 * Rocco: [Puts gun to his own head] I'll shoot myself in the head, you can tell me that cat's name! Go ahead! Your what? Your precious, little...
 * Rayvie: Skippy! Skippy!
 * Rocco: Oh, Jesus! What color was it, bitch?
 * Rayvie: Don't you fucking yell at her like that you prick!
 * Rocco: [Turns gun on Rayvie] Shut your fat ass, Rayvie! I can't buy a pack of smokes without runnin' into nine guys you fucked!

 * Il Duce:You people have been chosen to reveal our existence to the world. You will witness what happens here today, and you will tell of it later. All eyes to the front. [Gently to a woman in front with her eyes turned down] You must watch dear. It'll all be over soon.
 * Connor: Now you will receive us.
 * Murphy: We do not ask for your poor, or your hungry.
 * Connor: We do not want your tired and sick.
 * Murphy: It is your corrupt we claim.
 * Connor: It is your evil that will be sought by us.
 * Murphy: With every breath, we shall hunt them down.
 * Connor: Each day we will spill their blood, 'til it rains down from the skies.
 * Murphy: Do not kill. Do not rape. Do not steal. These are principles which every man of every faith can embrace.
 * Connor: These are not polite suggestions. These are codes of behavior, and those of you that ignore them will pay the dearest cost.
 * Murphy: There are varying degrees of evil. We urge you lesser forms of filth, not to push the bounds and cross over, into true corruption, into our domain.
 * Connor: For if you do, one day you will look behind you and you will see we three, and on that day you will reap it!
 * Murphy: And we will send you to whatever god you wish.
 * [Murphy and Conner join II Duce behind Yakavetta]
 * Connor, Murphy and Il Duce: And shepherds we shall be, for Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be.
 * Il Duce: Ĭn nōmine Pătris …
 * Connor: [Showing "veritas" tattooed on left hand] … ĕt Fīliī …
 * Murphy: [Showing "aequitas" tattooed on right hand] … ĕt Spīritūs Sānctī.
 * [They execute Yakavetta]

Cast

 * Willem Dafoe – Paul Smecker
 * Sean Patrick Flanery – Connor McManus
 * Norman Reedus – Murphy McManus
 * David Della Rocco – David Della Rocco AKA "Funnyman"
 * Billy Connolly – Il Duce
 * Ron Jeremy – Vincenzo Lipazzi

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Leonard Peikoff

Leonard Sylvan Peikoff (born October 15, 1933) is a Canadian American philosopher. He is an Objectivist and was a close associate of Ayn Rand, who designated him heir to her estate. He is a former professor of philosophy and host of a nationally syndicated radio talk show. He co-founded the Ayn Rand Institute (ARI) in 1985 and is the author of several books on philosophy.

1980s

 * It is too obvious, too easily demonstrable that fascism and communism are not two opposites, but two rival gangs fighting over the same territory - that both are variants of statism, based on the collectivist principle that man is the rightless slave of the state - that both are socialistic, in theory, in practice, and in the explicit statements of their leaders - that under both systems, the poor are enslaved and the rich are expropriated in favor of a ruling clique - that fascism is not the product of the political "right," but of the "left" - that the basic issue is not "rich versus poor," but man versus the state, or: individual rights versus totalitarian government - which means: capitalism versus socialism.
 * As quoted in The Ayn Rand Lexicon, 1988, p. 213

1990s

 * A: "Your objection to the self-evident has no validity. There is no such thing as disagreement. People agree about everything." B: "That’s absurd; people disagree constantly, and about all kinds of things." A: "How can they? There’s nothing to disagree about; no subject matter. After all, nothing exists." B: "Nonsense. All kinds of things exist, you know that as well as I do." A: "That’s one. You must accept the existence axiom, even to utter the term “disagreement.” But to continue, I still maintain that disagreement is unreal. How can people disagree when they are unconscious beings who are unable to hold any ideas at all?" B: "Of course people hold ideas. They are conscious beings. You know that." A: "There’s another axiom, but even so, why is disagreement about axioms a problem? Why should it suggest that one or more of the parties is mistaken? Perhaps all of the people who disagree about the very same point are equally, objectively right." B: "That’s impossible. If two ideas contradict each other, they can’t both be right. Contradictions can’t exist in reality. After all, A is A." Existence, consciousness, identity are presupposed by every statement and by every concept, including that of "disagreement." … In the act of voicing his objection, therefore, the objector has conceded the case. In any act of challenging or denying the three axioms, a man reaffirms them, no matter what the particular content of this challenge. The axioms are invulnerable. The opponents of these axioms pose as defenders of truth, but it is only a pose. Their attack on the self-evident amounts to the charge. "Your belief in an idea doesn't necessarily make it true; you must prove it, because facts are what they are independent of your beliefs." Every element of this charge relies on the very axioms that these people are questioning and supposedly setting aside.
 * Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (1991) ; Dialogue used to show that existence, conciousness, identity, and non-contradiction are axioms, using A as a defender of the axioms, and B as an opponent of the axioms,

 * Responsible parenthood involves decades devoted to the child’s proper nurture. To sentence a woman to bear a child against her will is an unspeakable violation of her rights: her right to liberty (to the functions of her body), her right to the pursuit of happiness, and, sometimes, her right to life itself, even as a serf. Such a sentence represents the sacrifice of the actual to the potential, of a real human being to a piece of protoplasm, which has no life in the human sense of the term. It is sheer perversion of language for people who demand this sacrifice to call themselves ‘right-to-lifers.’ “
 * Objectivism: The Philosophy of Ayn Rand (1993), Chapter 10: Government

2000s

 * To those who oppose war, I ask: If not now, when? How many more corpses are necessary before this country should take action?
 * Fifty Years of Appeasement Led to Black Tuesday (12 September 2001)

2010s

 * Now, the United States’ response, the western response to this is a continuation of the appeasement that was started back in the ’50s with Eisenhower when Iran seized western oil companies. The Americans, the British, and the Israelis, as I remember, launched an attack to try to reclaim it and — or at least the British and the Israelis did and Eisenhower vetoed it.
 * On Middle East history and American foreign policy, in What do you think of the plan for a mosque in New York City near Ground Zero? (28 June 2010) - Transcript

 * Now if you ask me, in conclusion, “Well, what, then should properly be done?” Obviously war, but I mean in regard to this issue I would say: Any way possible permission should be refused and if they go ahead and build it, the government should bomb it out of existence, evacuating it first, with no compensation to any of the property owners involved in this monstrosity.
 * What do you think of the plan for a mosque in New York City near Ground Zero? (28 June 2010)

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