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User talk:Erpnaternac

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After review of your edits thus far, you have been identified as a likely pattern vandal and a probable sockpuppet of now-blocked User:Staying Anon. If you choose to continue to participate in fake vandalism warnings, you will be permanently blocked. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:RingWars2007~enwikiquote

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Brimstone
''Hey Jeff, thanks for the help with the clean-up! I saw that a bracket was left so I just nixed it. Is there anything else you think I need to do in order to ensure the wiki-quality? The templates were the biggest issue for me, I could not figure out what I was doing wrong. Thanks again! RingWars2007 17:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)''

 * I hate to mention it after all your work on the templates in Brimstone (wrestler), but we don't typically use footnotes for source citations on Wikiquote. Standard source lines are double-bulleted under each quote. (See Templates/People for our standard structure/formatting example.) When we do use footnotes for quote sources, it's usually to collect a bunch of identical citations with slightly different information, or with much more detail than is necessary for the basic source citation. (Take a look at some of the footnotes in Dean Koontz for a substantial example of the former; Mae West demonstrates the latter.) Even so, many editors feel these end-note citations defeat the requirement to make clear, specific sources obvious for the reader, as it requires a jump to the page bottom to review the source.

 * I'm not saying you should change it, but don't be surprised if someone else recommends a change or does it themselves. We have some prototype policies on these matters at Sourcing and Citing sources, but I believe discussion on them is currently stalled — a not uncommon situation here. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:53, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
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User talk:Darkmeerkat

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User talk:NerdExtrodinare

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John Brown
''I have been trying to bring the John Brown quotes page up to snuff because I am an avid fan, but I'm still making sure to be unbiased, and add both positive, and negative, quotes by and about him. It's still registered as a stub, may I ask for a more exact perammiter to fix it? So that I may move onto upgrading other pages. NerdExtrodinare 5/2/07 12:24 PM''

 * It is always good for individual editor's to seek to balance presentations, but it is not absolutely required. Though they are in the public domain much of the material you have added to John Brown seems to be complete or nearly complete speeches, letters, or songs, which might be better added to Wikisource. Ideally one should find the most interesting or famous statements within such a works and select them for posting here. I might try to clean things up a bit on the page after I catch up on a few other things. ~ Kalki 00:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Kirk Hilliard

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User talk:Crazyaboutstiles

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User talk:Erictedwood

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User talk:GoblinJuice

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User talk:Spider092361

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User talk:Thryth

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User talk:Gilemon~enwikiquote

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Your account will be renamed
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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Gilemon. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Gilemon~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:MadocBitur~enwikiquote

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Your account will be renamed
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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called MadocBitur. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name MadocBitur~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:Alton

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User talk:Bridgman

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User talk:Blissblog~enwikiquote

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Your account will be renamed
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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Blissblog. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Blissblog~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:Kameda2000~enwikiquote

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Your account will be renamed
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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Kameda2000. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Kameda2000~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Renamed
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User talk:WritingWriter

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User talk:Shreyasjoshis

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User talk:Publius~enwikiquote

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Publius. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Publius~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User talk:Nanobug Locked Out!

The editor creating this username claims to be sysop User:Nanobug, but has provided no evidence to suggest this is true, and has asked for the suspension of a security feature (Nanobug's password). Based on this information, I believe this user to be a vandal and sysop impersonator. If this is indeed Nanobug, please provide evidence of identity by private means. (The real Nanobot would know how to do this.) Thank you for your cooperation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

~ Kalki 21:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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Astrology

Astrology is a group of systems, traditions, and beliefs in which knowledge of the relative positions of celestial bodies and related details is held to be useful in understanding, interpreting, and organizing information about personality, human affairs, and other terrestrial matters. A practitioner of astrology is called an astrologer, or, less often, an astrologist.

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 * There is an abstruse astrologer that saith, if it were not for two things that are constant (the one is, that the fixed stars ever stand at like distance one from another, and never come nearer together, nor go further asunder; the other, that the diurnal motion perpetually keepeth time), no individual would last one moment; certain it is, that the matter is in a perpetual flux, and never at a stay. The great winding-sheets that bury all things in oblivion, are two,—deluges and earthquakes. As for conflagrations and great droughts, they do not merely dispeople, but destroy.
 * Francis Bacon, Bacon's Essays, and Wisdom of the Ancients by Francis Bacon, LVIII. (1884)

 * Unlawful arts and indeed frequently arts themselves, are persecuted by Minos, that is, by laws, which prohibit and forbid their use among the people; but notwithstanding this, they are hid, concealed, retained, and everywhere find reception and skulking-places; a thing well observed by Tacitus of the astrologers and fortune-tellers of his time. “These,” says he, “are a kind of men that will always be prohibited, and yet will always be retained in our city.”
 * Francis Bacon, Bacon's Essays, and Wisdom of the Ancients by Francis Bacon, XX. (1884)

 * Such is the way of all superstition, whether in astrology, dreams, omens, divine judgments, or the like; wherein men, having a delight in such vanities, mark the events where they are fulfilled, but where they fail, though this happen much oftener, neglect and pass them by.
 * Francis Bacon, Novum Organum, § 46

 * That astrology is a science, and a coming science, is true. That astrology in its highest aspect and its true interpretation, will enable man eventually to focus his understanding, and to function rightly, is equally true... But that astrology is not yet to be found. Too much is overlooked and too little known, to make astrology the exact science that many claim it is. The claim will be fulfilled at some future date, but the time is not yet.   The claims of the astrologers as to the reality of the energies playing upon the human organism, can be seen to be true; their claims as to their capacity to interpret, are for the most part unfounded.  So little is really known... The energy of the particular constellation or sign in which a man is born, is more deeply significant than has ever yet been suggested. It embodies or indicates his present problem, sets the pace or tempo of his life, and is related to the quality of his personality. It governs, if I may so express it, the . . . activity aspect of his life during incarnation.
 * Alice Bailey, A Treatise on White Magic, Lucis Trust publishing (1934) p. 434/5

 * Astrology is a science as infallible as astronomy itself, with the condition, however, that its interpreters must be equally infallible; and it is this condition, sine qua non, so very difficult of realization, that has always proved a stumbling block to both.
 * H. P. Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled: A Master-Key to the Mysteries of Ancient and Modern Science and Theology (1877)

 * Astrology is to exact astronomy what psychology is to exact physiology. In astrology and psychology one has to step beyond the visible world of matter, and enter into the domain of transcendent spirit. It is the old struggle between the Platonic and  Aristotelean  schools, and it is not in our century of Sadducean skepticism that the former will prevail over the latter.
 * H. P. Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled: A Master-Key to the Mysteries of Ancient and Modern Science and Theology (1877)

 * Ancient civilization saw nothing absurd in the claims of astrology, nothing more than some educated and thoroughly scientific people see in them today. Legal astrology, through which the fate and deeds of men and peoples could be foreseen, appeared, and it still appears today, not yet more unphilosophical or unscientific than natural astrology or astronomy, through which the events of so-called raw and inanimate nature (Weather changes etc.) could be predicted. For it was not even a prophetic insight that was claimed by the followers of this absurd and really great science, but simply a great mastery of the procedure that allows the astrologer to determine certain events in a person's life based on the position of the planets at the time To foresee birth. As soon as the probability or even the simple possibility of an occult influence of the stars on the fate of man is known - and why should this fact appear less probable with stars and men than with sunspots and potatoes - astrology becomes no less an exact science as astronomy.
 * H P Blavatsky The Theosophist, Vol. II, No. 9, (June 1881), pp. 199-201

 * The earth, says Prof. Balfour Stewart, FRS, - "is very seriously affected by what happens in the sun". . . a connection is strongly suspected "between epidemics and the appearance of the sun's surface". "One of the most famous plant epidemics is that of potato disease. The years 1846, 1860 and 1872 were bad years because of potato disease. Now these years are not very far from the years of maximum sunspot formation. [There is] a strange connection between these plant diseases and the state of the sun... The disease that appeared about three centuries ago, of a periodic and very violent character, called the "sweat sickness" ... appeared about the late fifteenth and early sixteenth centuries took place in the following years: 1485, 1506, 1517, 1528 and 1551, about eleven years between eruptions. Well, this is exactly the sunspot period... " The Sun and the Earth. Lecture by Prof. Balfour Stewart).
 * H P Blavatsky The Theosophist, Vol. II, No. 9, (June 1881), pp. 199-201

 * And if, as this man of science tells us, "a connection of some mysterious species between the sun and the earth is more than suspected" ... and the problem is an extremely important one "to be solved" how much more important is then the solution to this other mystery - the undoubted affinity between man and the stars - an affinity that has been believed for innumerable ages and by the most learned of men! Certainly the fate of a person deserves as much attention as that of a turnip or a potato. . . And if disease of the latter can be scientifically predicted, whenever that plant grows during a "sunspot period", then why should not life in sickness or health, natural or violent death be equally scientifically predicted by the location and appearance of the constellation with which man is so directly connected and which has the same relationship to him as the sun has to earth?
 * H P Blavatsky The Theosophist, Vol. II, No. 9, (June 1881), pp. 199-201

 * Astrology (Gr.) The Science which defines the action of celestial bodies upon mundane affairs, and claims to foretell future events from the position of the stars. Its antiquity is such as to place it among the very earliest records of human learning. It remained for long ages a secret science in the East, and its final expression remains so to this day, its exoteric application having been brought to any degree of perfection in the West only during the period of time since Varaha Muhira wrote his book on Astrology some 1400 years ago. Claudius Ptolemy, the famous geographer and mathematician, wrote his treatise Tetrabiblos about 135 A.D., which is still the basis of modern astrology. The science of Horoscopy is studied now chiefly under four heads: viz., (1) Mundane, in its application to meteorology, seismology, husbandry, etc. (2) State or civic, in regard to the fate of nations, kings and rulers. (3) Horary, in reference to the solving of doubts arising in the mind upon any subject. (4) Genethliacal, in its application to the fate of individuals from the moment of their birth to their death. The Egyptians and the Chaldees were among the most ancient votaries of Astrology, though their modes of reading the stars and the modern practices differ considerably.
 * H.P. Blavatsky, The Theosophical Glossary, (1892)

 * If later on the name of Astrologer fell into disrepute in Rome and elsewhere, it was owing to the fraud of those who wanted to make money by means of that which was part and parcel of the sacred Science of the Mysteries, and, ignorant of the latter, evolved a system based entirely upon mathematics, instead of on transcendental metaphysics and having the physical celestial bodies as its upadhi or material basis. Yet, all persecutions notwithstanding, the number of the adherents of Astrology among the most intellectual and scientific minds was always very great. If Cardan and Kepler were among its ardent supporters, then its later votaries have nothing to blush for, even in its now imperfect and distorted form.
 * H.P. Blavatsky, The Theosophical Glossary, (1892)

 * Scientists refuse to study astrology, not because of prejudice or because there is a conspiracy afoot, but simply because there is not a shred of evidence that would justify the expenditure of valuable time from a career.
 * Mordechai Ben-Ari, Just a Theory: Exploring the Nature of Science (2005), Chapter 5

 * Amusingly, it falls foul of our modern taboo against lazy stereotyping. How would we react if a newspaper published a daily columm that read something like this: "Germans: It is in your nature to be hard-working and methodical, which should serve you well at work today. In your personal relationships, especially this evening, you will need to curb your natural tendency to obey orders. Chinese: Inscrutability has many advantages, but it may be your undoing today. British: Your stiff upper lip may serve you well in business dealings, but try to relax and let yourself go in your social life."
 * Richard Dawkins, The Enemies of Reason, "Slaves to Superstition" [1.01], 13 August 2007, timecode 0:05:54ff.

 * “Listen to what it says in the horoscopes: ‘If it is your birthday, there may be an increased amount of mail. Expect gifts, friendly salutations from people and the occasional surprise. Possibility of cake.’ That’s so weird—I wonder if any of it will come true?”
 * Jasper Fforde, First Among Sequels (2007), ISBN 978-0-670-03871-8 p. 48

 * And most people say of astrology, "Oh, it's harmless fun, isn't it?" And I should say probably for about 80% of the cases it probably is harmless fun, but there's a strong way in which it isn't harmless: one, because it's so anti-science; you know, you'll hear things like "Science doesn't know everything." Well, of course science doesn't know everything, but because science doesn't know everything that doesn't mean science knows nothing. Science knows enough for us to be watched by a few million people now on television, for these lights to be working, for quite extraordinary miracles to have taken place in terms of the harnessing of the physical world and our dim approaches towards understanding it.
 * Stephen Fry, Room 101, Season 6 Episode 10.

 * He considered horoscopes as silly as spectacles on a cow.
 * Robert A. Heinlein, Between Planets (1951), Chapter 4

 * The medieval addiction to astrology is not merely a sign of "failure of nerve". According to Aristotle, everything that happens in the sub-lunary world is caused and governed by the motions of the heavenly spheres. This tenet served as a rationale for the defenders of astrology, both in antiquity and the Middle Ages. ...In the absence of quantitative laws and causal relations, the Aristotelian... proceeded by deduction from analogies, which were often metaphorical, or allegorical, or purely verbal.
 * Arthur Koestler, The Sleepwalkers: A History of Man's Changing Vision of the Universe (1959)

 * Their [the stars] influence on our fate is considerably less than the influence of a banana peel, on which you can slip and break your leg. But there is no interest in banana peels, whereas serious periodicals include horoscopes ... It lifts his spirits. The whole universe revolves around him, and even if things aren't going well, even if the stars are lined up in such a way that the suspenders manufacturer loses his shirt and the individual consequently loses his job, it's still more comforting than to know that the stars don't really give a damn. Knock astrology out of his head, and the belief too that the cactus on his windowsill cares about him, and what is left? Barefoot, naked despair.
 * Stanislaw Lem, Peace on Earth (1987), tr. Elinor Ford (1994) from Pojój na Zemi, Ch. 5.

 * Astrology is a disease, not a science.
 * Moses ben Maimon, 1135 to 1204, Jewish philosopher.

 * The oracles are dumb, No voice or hideous hum Runs through the arched roof in words deceiving Apollo from his shrine Can no more divine, With hollow shriek the steep of Delphos leaving. No nightly trance or breathèd spell, Inspires the pale-eyed priest from the prophetic cell.
 * John Milton Hymn, stanza 19, line 173.

 * “Doesn’t she read chicken entrails?” “Oh! No, astrology.” “Same sort of thing.”
 * Tim Powers, Medusa’s Web (2016), Chapter 5

 * “It makes you wonder if there is anything to astrology after all.” “Oh, there is,” said Susan. “Delusion, wishful thinking, and gullibility.”
 * Terry Pratchett, Thief of Time (2001), ISBN 0-06-103132-1, p. 321

 * Astrology can be tested by the lives of twins. There are many real cases like this: one twin is killed in childhood, in say a riding accident, or is struck by lightning, but the other lives to a prosperous old age. Suppose that happens to me. My twin and I would be born in precisely the same place, and within minutes of each other. Exactly the same planets would be rising at our births. If astrology were valid, how could we have such profoundly different fates?
 * How could the rising of Mars at the moment of my birth affect me, then, or now? I was born in a closed room. Light from Mars couldn't get in. The only influence of Mars which could affect me was its gravity. But the gravitational influence of the obstetrician was much larger than the gravitational influence of Mars. Mars is a lot more massive, but the obstetrician was a lot closer.
 * Carl Sagan, "The Harmony of Worlds", Cosmos, episode 3

 * This is the excellent foppery of the world, that, when we are sick in fortune, often the surfeit of our own behaviour, we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and the stars; as if we were villains on necessity; fools by heavenly compulsion; knaves, thieves, and treachers by spherical pre-dominance; drunkards, liars, and adulterers by an enforc’d obedience of planetary influence; and all that we are evil in, by a divine thrusting on. An admirable evasion of whore-master man, to lay his goatish disposition to the charge of a star!
 * Shakespeare, King Lear, Act 1 Scene 2

 * Astrology has no effect on reality, after all, so why should reality have any effect on astrology?
 * J.S. Stenzel (2020), on claims of astrological influence by planets that don't exist

 * “Excuse me,” she said hesitantly, “but what effect do these minor planets have on our behavior and fortunes? I mean, you know, astrological influence?” He looked at her. “None.” “None at all.” “No.” “But if the planets affect our fortunes—” She stumbled to a stop at the dispassionately scornful look on the pale man’s face, the slow way he shook his head. “Surely you’ll agree that the planets order and control our destinies?” “They do not.” “Not at all?” “Then what does? Control our destinies, I mean.” “The only external forces that have any influence on us are those we can see every day: the smile, the frown, the fist, the brick wall. What you call ‘destiny’ is merely a semantic fallacy, the attribution of purpose to blind causality. Insofar as any of us are compelled to resist the flow of random events, we are driven solely by internal drives and forces.”
 * Michael Swanwick, The Iron Dragon's Daughter (1993), Chapter 6

 * There may have been some time in the past when a group calling themselves astrologers could produce results. I don’t know, and the matter doesn’t interest me, for I live in the present. In our time the men working in the name of astrology are incapable of producing results, are conscious frauds.
 * Vernor Vinge, Apartness (1965), reprinted in The Collected Stories of Vernor Vinge, p. 145

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Dr. Israr Ahmed (26 April 1932 – 14 April 2010) was the founder the Tanzeem-e-Islami, an Islamic revolutionary party in Pakistan.

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 * The Afghans have stood firm in the face of all odds and pressures and have indeed made the greatest of sacrifices. They have sacrificed a million and a half people. They are no longer afraid of death. The truth is that when death seems far away then fear of it is magnified, but this fear disappears for those who see it close to them. For the Afghans, death is no longer something to be avoided!
 * http://www.jamiat.org.za/al-jamiat/june/taliban.html.

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The American Scene

The American Scene is a book (1907) by Henry James describing his travels throughout the United States in 1904–1905.

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(Indiana University Press, 1968, Library of Congress catalogue card number 68-14605)

 * The huge new houses, up and down, looked over their smart, short lawns as with a certain familiar prominence in their profiles, which was borne out by the accent, loud, assertive, yet benevolent withal, with which they confessed to their extreme expensiveness. "Oh, yes; we were awfully dear, for what we are and for what we do" — it was proud, but it was rather rueful; with the odd appearance everywhere as of florid creations waiting, a little bewilderingly, for their justification, waiting for the next clause in the sequence, waiting in short for life, for time, for interest, for character, for identity itself to come to them, quite as large spread tables or superfluous shops may wait for guests and customers.
 * Ch. I: New England - An Autumn Impression, pt. I (p. 8)

 * The ample villas, in their full dress, planted each on its little square of brightly-green carpet, and as with their stiff skirts pulled well down, eyed each other, at short range, from head to foot; while the open road, the chariots, the buggies, the motors, the pedestrians — which last number, indeed, was remarkably small — regarded at their ease both this reciprocity and the parties to it. It was in fact all one participation, with an effect deterrent to those ingenuities, or perhaps indeed rather to those commonplaces, of conjecture produced in general by the outward show of the fortunate life. That, precisely, appeared the answer to the question of manners: the fact that in such conditions there couldn't be any manners to speak of; that the basis of privacy was somehow wanting for them; and that nothing, accordingly, no image, no presumption of constituted relations, possibilities, amenities, in the social, the domestic order, was inwardly projected. It was as if the projection had been so completely outward that one could but find one's self almost uneasy about the mere perspective required for the common acts of the personal life, that minimum of vagueness as to what takes place in it for which the complete "home" aspires to provide.
 * Ch. I: New England, pt. I (p. 10)

 * That, at any rate, would seem in each instance the most direct message of the life displayed to the observer, on the fresher evenings, in the halls and parlours, the large, clean, bare spaces (almost penally clean and bare), where plain, respectable families seemed to sit and study in silence, with a kind of awe indeed, as from a sense of inevitable doom, their reflected resemblances, from group to group, their baffling identities of type and tone, their inability to escape from participations and communities.
 * Ch. I: New England, pt. III (p. 31)

 * What was taking place was a perpetual repudiation of the past, so far as there had been a past to repudiate, so far as the past was a positive rather than a negative quantity. There had been plenty in it, assuredly, of the negative, and that was but a shabbiness to disown or a deception to expose; yet there had been an old conscious commemorated life too, and it was this that had become the victim of supersession. The pathos, so to call it, of the impression was somehow that it didn't, the earlier, simpler condition, still resist or protest, or at all expressively flush through; it was consenting to become a past with all the fine candour with which it had tried to affirm itself, in its day, as a present — and very much, for that matter, as with a due ironic forecast of the fate in store for the hungry, triumphant actual.
 * Ch. I: New England, pt. VI (p. 53)

 * Crowned not only with no history, but with no credible possibility of time for history, and consecrated by no uses save the commercial at any cost, they [sky-scrapers] are simply the most piercing notes in that concert of the expensively provisional into which your supreme sense of New York resolves itself
 * Ch. 2: New York Revisited, pt. I (p. 77)

 * The reflecting surfaces, of the ironic, of the epic order, suspended in the New York atmosphere, have yet to show symptoms of shining out, and the monstrous phenomena themselves, meanwhile, strike me as having, with their immense momentum, got the start, got ahead of, in proper parlance, any possibility of poetic, of dramatic capture.
 * Ch. 2: New York Revisited, pt. I (p. 83)

 * The newness of New York — unlike even that of Boston, I seemed to discern — had this mark of its very own, that it affects one, in every case, as having treated itself as still more provisional, if possible, than any poor dear little interest of antiquity it may have annihilated. The very sign of its energy is that it doesn't believe in itself; it fails to succeed, even at a cost of millions, in persuading you that it does. Its mission would appear to be, exactly, to gild the temporary, with its gold, as many inches thick as may be, and then, with a fresh shrug, a shrug of its splendid cynicism for its freshly detected inability to convince, give up its actual work, however exorbitant, as the merest of stop-gaps.
 * Ch. 2: New York Revisited, pt. III (p. 110)

 * The social question quite fills the air, in New York, for any spectator whose impressions at all follow themselves up; it wears, at any rate, in what I have called the upper reaches, the perpetual strange appearance as of Property perched high aloft and yet itself looking about, all ruefully, in the wonder of what it is exactly doing there. We see it perched, assuredly, in other and older cities, other and older social orders; but it strikes us in those situations as knowing a little more where it is. It strikes us as knowing how it has got up and why it must, infallibly, stay up; it has not the frightened look, measuring the spaces around, of a small child set on a mantelshelf and about to cry out. If old societies are interesting, however, I am far from thinking that young ones may not be more so — with their collective countenance so much more presented, precisely, to observation, as by their artless need to get themselves explained. The American world produces almost everywhere the impression of appealing to any attested interest for the word, the fin mot, of what it may mean; but I somehow see those parts of it most at a loss that are already explained not a little by the ample possession of money. This is the amiable side there of the large developments of private ease in general — the amiable side of those numerous groups that are rich enough and, in the happy vulgar phrase, bloated enough, to be candidates for the classic imputation of haughtiness. The amiability proceeds from an essential vagueness; whereas real haughtiness is never vague about itself — it is only vague about others. That is the human note in the huge American rattle of gold — so far as the "social" field is the scene of the rattle.
 * Ch. 2: New York Revisited, pt. III (pp. 114-115)

 * These adventures of the critical spirit were such mere mild walks and talks as I almost blush to offer, on this reduced scale, as matter of history; but I draw courage from the remembrance that history is never, in any rich sense, the immediate crudity of what "happens," but the much finer complexity of what we read into it and think of in connection with it.
 * Ch. 4: New York - Social Notes, pt. IV (p. 182)

 * It had been intimated to me that one of these scenes of our climax had entered the sophisticated phase, that of sacrificing to a self-consciousness that was to be regretted — that of making eyes, so to speak, at the larger, the up-town public; that pestilent favour of "society" which is fatal to everything it touches and which so quickly leaves the places of its passage unfit for its own use and uninteresting for any other.
 * Ch. 5: The Bowery and Thereabouts, pt. III (pp. 205-206)

 * He is confronted too often, to his sense, with the question of what may be "borne"; but what does he see about him if not a vast social order in which the parties to certain relations are all the while marvellously, inscrutably, desperately "bearing" each other? He may wonder, at his hours, how, under the strain, social cohesion does not altogether give way; but that is another question, which belongs to a different plane of speculation. For he asks himself quite as much as anything else how the shopman or the shoplady can bear to be barked at in the manner he constantly hears used to them by customers — he recognizes that no agreeable form of intercourse could survive a day in such air: so that what is the only relation finding ground there but a necessary vicious circle of gross mutual endurance?
 * Ch. 7: Boston, pt. I (p. 236)

 * What prevails, what sets the tune, is the American scale of gain, more magnificent than any other, and the fact that the whole assumption, the whole theory of life, is that of the individual's participation in it, that of his being more or less punctually and more or less effectually "squared." To make so much money that you won't, that you don't "mind," don't mind anything — that is absolutely, I think, the main American formula.
 * Ch. 7: Boston, pt. I (p. 237)

 * Perversely adorable always — and I scarce know why — the late afternoon light in deserted haunts of study; with the secret of supreme dignity lurking, above all, in high, dusky, wainscoted chambers where the sound of one's footfall lingers, to one's pleasure, like a caress, and where portraits of the appurtenant worthies, the heroes and patrons, grow vague in the twilight. It is a tribute to the forces of idealism lurking again and again, over the country, in the amenity of the general Collegiate appearance, that the last thing these conditions overtly suggest, or seem to accept as their imputed virtue, is this precipitation of the young intelligence into the mere vociferous market.
 * Ch. 10: Baltimore, pt. III (pp. 317-318)

 * He has seen again and again how the most expensive effort often fails to lead up to interest, and he has seen how it may bloom in soil of no more worth than so many layers of dust and ashes. He has learnt in fact — he learns greatly in America — to mistrust any plea for it directly made by money, which operates too often as the great puffing motor-car framed for whirling him, in his dismay, quite away from it.
 * Ch. 11: Washington, pt. IV (p. 358)

 * The social scene, shabby and sordid, and lost in the scale of space as the quotable line is lost in a dull epic or the needed name in an ageing memory, would have been as interesting, probably, as a "short story" in one of the slangy dialects promoted by the illustrated monthly magazines; but it affected me above all, and almost each time, I seem to remember, as speaking of the number of things not cared for. There were some presumably, though not at all discernibly, that were — enough to beget the loose human cohesion, the scant consistency of parts and pieces, to which the array by the railway platform testified; but questions came up, plentifully, in respect to the whole picture, and if the mass of interests that were absent was so remarkably large, this would be certainly because such interests were ruled out. The grimness with which, as by a hard inexorable fate, so many things were ruled out, fixed itself most perhaps as the impression of the spectator enjoying from his supreme seat of ease his extraordinary, his awful modern privilege of this detached yet concentrated stare at the misery of subject populations. (Subject, I mean, to this superiority of his bought convenience — subject even as never, of old, to the sway of satraps or proconsuls.)
 * Ch. 13: Charleston, pt. I (pp. 397-398)

 * It is of the nature of many American impressions, accepted at the time as a whole of the particular story, simply to cease to be, as soon as your back is turned — to fade, to pass away, to leave not a wreck behind. This happens not least when the image, whatever it may have been, has exacted the tribute of wonder or pleasure: it has displayed every virtue but the virtue of being able to remain with you. Its pressure and power have failed of some weight, some element of density or intensity, some property or quality in short that makes for the authority of a figure, for the complexity of a scene.
 * Ch. 14: Florida, pt. V (p. 454)

 * I had the foretaste of what I was presently to feel in California — when the general aspect of that wondrous realm kept suggesting to me a sort of prepared but unconscious and inexperienced Italy, the primitive plate, in perfect condition, but with the impression of History all yet to be made.
 * Ch. 14: Florida, pt. VII (462)

About The American Scene

 * Indeed, perhaps, the best way to approach this book is as a prose poem of the first order, i.e., to suspend, for the time being, one's own conclusions about America and Americans, and to read on slowly, relishing it sentence by sentence, for it is no more a guidebook than the "Ode to a Nightingale" is an ornithological essay.
 * W. H. Auden, "The American Scene," The Dyer's Hand (1962) [Vintage, 1989, ISBN 0-679-72484-2], p. 314

 * Great artists are always far-seeing. They easily avoid the big stumbling blocks of fact. They rely on their own simplicity and vision. It is fact-fetichism that has given us those scores and scores of American books on America, the works of sociologists, anthropologists, topical "problem" hunters, working-parties and statisticians, which in the end leave us empty. Henry James succeeds because he rejects information. He was himself the only information he required.
 * V. S. Pritchett, "Henry James: Birth of a Hermaphrodite," The Tale Bearers: English and American Writers (1980) [Random House, 1981, ISBN 0-394-74683-X], pp. 131-132

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Recep Tayyip Erdoğan

Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (born 26 February 1954), Istanbul is the Prime Minister of the Republic of Turkey (2003-2014), and is the President of the Republic of Turkey (2014-present).

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 * In other words, the bar should be maintained at the level of a pluralistic and participatory democracy.
 * As quoted in Erdogan: "Democracy in the Middle East, PluralIism in Europe: Turkish View", The Turkish Weekly (October 12, 2004)

 * But foremost, I do not subscribe to the view that Islamic culture and democracy cannot be reconciled.
 * As quoted in Erdogan: "Democracy in the Middle East, PluralIism in Europe: Turkish View", The Turkish Weekly (October 12, 2004)

 * Everyone should unconditionally accept that Israel is an indispensable element of the Middle Eastern mosaic.
 * As quoted in Erdogan: "Democracy in the Middle East, PluralIism in Europe: Turkish View", The Turkish Weekly (October 12, 2004)

 * There exists an unmistakable demand in the Middle East and in the wider Muslim world for democratization.
 * As quoted in Erdogan: "Democracy in the Middle East, PluralIism in Europe: Turkish View", The Turkish Weekly (October 12, 2004)

 * There are people who say that "Gül can't be my president". These people don't have good manners for and they should renounce their Turkish citizenship foremost this man will be chosen democratically by the people.
 * As quoted in "Gül'ü tanımayan vatandaşlıktan çıksın !", Haberturk (August 21, 2007)

 * Every instigator or madman, who will dare to raise his hand against the government, let him be sure that the government will chop it off.
 * Speech delivered after the military coup, 2016

 * These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.
 * "PM Erdogan: The Term “Moderate Islam” Is Ugly And Offensive; There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam", Memri Turkish Media Blog (August 21, 2007)

 * We are all human beings. (original: Hepimiz insanız)
 * As quoted in "Erdoğan Almanya’da: Hepimiz insanız", NTVMSNBC Anasayfa (February 9, (2008))

 * Mr. Peres, you are older than I am. And your voice is genuinely loud. I know that it is because you are, in fact, in a psychology of feeling guilty, thus you better know that I will not sound that loud. And when killing is the case, you know how to kill very well. I know how you killed the children on the beaches, I know how you shot them. Two ex-PMs of your country once told me important things. You have had such prime ministers who said, "When I enter Palestine on a tank, I feel happy — in a different way." You have had PMs who said to me "I feel happy when I am on a tank while entering Palestine." And you give me those numbers. I would release their names, in case some of you might be curious of. I also condemn those who acclaim this cruelty, because I think it is a crime against humanity as well.
 * As quoted during a discussion panel at 2009 World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, in "Turkish PM storms off in Gaza row", BBC (January 29, 2009)

 * There is but one alternative for Turkey. Either African barbarism, under Arabian direction, will burst around its head like an avalanche, or else it must re-establish strong leadership, thus putting twenty million heroes between itself and Africa and gaining a breathing spell for the accomplishment of its social regeneration.
 * As said during the EU-Turkey Summit

 * ...it's not possible for a Muslim to commit genocide
 * November 2009 "Sudanese President Bashir's visit to Turkey in limbo", Hurriyet Daily News (November 8, 2009)
 * Also translated as "it is not possible for those who belong to the Muslim faith to carry out genocide".

 * Those who do not want to take a side will be eliminated (read as: irrelevant for) from the process.
 * As quoted in "Bosses Unions Clash over Referendum Results", Today's Zaman (2010)

 * Cave of the Patriarchs and Rachel’s Tomb were not and never will be Jewish sites.
 * As quoted in "'Rachel's Tomb was never Jewish'", Al Wattan (March 7, 2010)

 * In my country there are 170,000 Armenians. Seventy thousand of them are citizens. We tolerate 100,000 more. So, what am I going to do tomorrow? If necessary I will tell the 100,000: OK, time to go back to your country. Why? They are not my citizens. I am not obliged to keep them in my country.
 * As quoted in "Shut Up About Armenians or We'll Hurt Them Again", Slate (April 5, 2010)

 * There is no difference between killing a baby in its mother's stomach and killing a baby after birth.
 * As quoted in "Turkey PM Erdogan sparks row over abortion", BBC (June 1, 2012)

 * I consider abortion to be murder. No-one should have the right to allow this to happen.
 * As quoted in "Turkey PM Erdogan sparks row over abortion", BBC (June 1, 2012)

 * There is a trouble called Twitter, the finest lies are here. Nowadays, social media is actually the headache of societies.
 * As quoted in "Erdoğan: Twitter denilen bir bela var", NTV (June 2, 2013)

 * Our religion [Islam] has defined a position for women: motherhood. Some people can understand this, while others can’t. You cannot explain this to feminists because they don’t accept the concept of motherhood.
 * As quoted in "Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: ‘women not equal to men’", The Guardian (November 24, 2014)

 * You cannot place a mother breastfeeding her baby on an equal footing with men. You cannot make women work in the same jobs as men do, as in communist regimes. You cannot give them a shovel and tell them to do their work. This is against their delicate nature.
 * As quoted in "Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: ‘women not equal to men’", The Guardian (November 24, 2014)

 * What women need is to be able to be equivalent, rather than equal. Because equality turns the victim into an oppressor and vice versa.
 * As quoted in "Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: ‘women not equal to men’", The Guardian (November 24, 2014)

 * As Muslims, we cannot overcome our difficulties without achieving unity in spite of our differences.
 * As quoted during the 13th Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) Summit in Istanbul, in "Islamic leaders pledge to combat sectarianism", Al Jazeera (April 15, 2016)

 * A woman who says 'because I am working I will not be a mother' is actually denying her feminity.
 * As quoted in "Turkey's Erdogan says childless women are 'incomplete'", Al Jazeera (June 6, 2016)

 * A woman who rejects motherhood, who refrains from being around the house, however successful her working life is, is deficient, is incomplete.
 * As quoted in "Turkey's Erdogan says childless women are 'incomplete'", Al Jazeera (June 6, 2016)

 * Europe, you don't want us because the majority of our population are Muslim ... We knew it but we tried to show our sincerity.
 * As quoted in "In Turkey's tussle with the EU, Erdogan thinks he holds the cards", Reuters (June 22, 2016)

 * You cried out when 50,000 refugees were at the Kapikule border... You started asking what you would do if Turkey would open the gates. Look at me — if you go further, those border gates will be open. You should know that.
 * As quoted in "Erdogan Threatens to Let Migrant Flood Into Europe Resume", The New York Times (November 25, 2016)

 * I am calling on my citizens, my brothers and sisters in Europe. Don’t have just three children; have five. The place in which you are living and working is now your homeland and new motherland. Stake a claim in it. Open more businesses, enroll your children in better schools, have your families live in better neighborhoods, drive the best cars, live in the most beautiful houses. That's because you are the future of Europe. It will be the best answer to the vulgarism, antagonism and injustices made against you.
 * As quoted in "Erdoğan to Turks in EU: Have 5 children, you are the future of Europe", TurkishMinute (March 17 2017)

 * If Europe continues this way, no European in any part of the world can walk safely on the streets. We, as Turkey, call on Europe to respect human rights and democracy.
 * As quoted in "Turkey's Erdogan warns Europeans 'will not walk safely on the streets' if diplomatic row continues", The Independent (March 22 2017)

 * We believe that we do not have any problem with any country or institution that cannot be solved through politics, diplomacy, and dialogue,
 * As quoted in "Turkey wants stronger cooperation with allies: President", Anadolu Agency (November 21, 2020)
 * We have no grudge against the people of Armenia. The problem is with the Armenian administration. Over 100,000 Armenians live in my country,
 * As quoted in "Turkey could open its borders to Armenia: Erdogan", Anadolu Agency (December 10, 2020)
 * If the EU really wants to contribute to a solution, it must fulfill the commitments it made back in 2004 and recognize the existence and will of the Turkish Cypriots, as well as making use of the solution proposal put forward in Geneva,
 * As quoted in "'EU must forgo shortsightedness, act bravely to improve ties with Turkiye'", Anadolu Agency (January 13, 2022)
 * We do not view Finland and Sweden's NATO membership positively.
 * "Erdogan says Turkey not supportive of Finland, Sweden joining NATO" Reuters (May 13, 2022)
 * Sweden and Finland do not extradite terrorists, they hold PKK demonstrations in Sweden and Finland. Sorry, we, as Turkey, do not look favorably on the NATO membership of Sweden and Finland. NATO is a security organization.
 * "Turkey’s Erdogan to speak to Finland as NATO application row simmers" Al-Arabiya News (May 20, 2022)
 * Those shedding crocodile tears for civilians killed in the Ukraine-Russia war are silently watching the deaths of thousands of innocent children in Gaza.
 * "Türkiye to introduce Israel to world as war criminal: Turkish President Erdogan" Anadolu Agency (October 28, 2023)

"Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: on NATO expansion", 2022
"Recep Tayyip Erdoğan: on NATO expansion", The Economist (May 30, 2022)
 * The war in Ukraine challenged conventional wisdom about the rules-based international order, great power competition and Euro-Atlantic security. The most recent developments also breathed new life into NATO, arguably the greatest military alliance in history.
 * Turkey has been a proud and indispensable NATO ally for 70 years. Our country joined the alliance in 1952, having sent troops to Korea in defence of democracy and freedom. During the cold war and in its aftermath, Turkey has been a stabilising power and a force for good in the Middle East, the Caucasus and the Black Sea regions. Turkish troops, too, have deployed to many parts of the world, from Kosovo to Afghanistan, as part of NATO missions.
 * At the same time, our country invested billions of dollars in its defence industry, bolstering its defensive capacity. That additional capacity resulted in the development of military products that have made their impact in various theatres of war, including Ukraine.
 * Indeed, Turkey’s increased capacity has also contributed to NATO’s resilience and strength. Whereas our partners have always appreciated Turkish contributions to NATO’s collective security mission, they quickly forgot about them when there were no threats to their national security. Our partners who only remember Turkey’s importance in turbulent times, such as the crisis in the Balkans, mistakenly thought that long-term stability could be achieved without Turkey. Thus, after the elimination of the immediate threat, they disregarded geopolitical realities and the potential threats that might emerge in the region. Needless to say, such pipe dreams turned out to be short-lived as a result of international crises.
 * The threats against international peace and security changed in recent years and that led many to believe that NATO was an “obsolete” organisation that ceased to serve its purpose. Emmanuel Macron even said in 2019 that the alliance was experiencing “brain death”. The same folks questioned Turkey’s role within NATO. That blend of extraordinary wishful thinking and extreme strategic myopia cost the alliance many years.
 * Nonetheless, Turkey refused to believe that the shortsighted and occasionally reckless attitudes of certain member states reflected the position of NATO as a whole. Quite the contrary, we stressed NATO’s importance and called on member states to take necessary steps, that included updating NATO’s missions to cover emerging threats and making the organisation more relevant for new geopolitical and global challenges. That call was in line with our nation’s response to the international system’s deepening instability, too.
 * In this sense, Turkey argued that NATO—like all other international organisations—had to implement certain reforms to cope with emerging security threats. Specifically on terrorism, the lack of collective action, in spite of direct attacks against many member states, undermined security co-operation and fuelled deep distrust among the citizens of NATO countries about the organisation. Turkey highlighted that trend at all NATO summits and maintained that international co-operation was vital for transforming the fight against terrorism. We wanted NATO to co-operate better on intelligence and military issues when dealing with terror organisations, not only to prevent terrorist attacks but also to curb terrorist financing and recruitment within NATO borders. We remain committed to that position.
 * Likewise, we made legitimate and necessary demands upon NATO, as multiple civil wars broke out in Turkey’s neighbourhood, to ensure the security of our borders and airspace as well as human security, as the largest refugee wave since World War II had emerged in the region. Largely abandoned, our country dealt with all those crises by itself and paid a high price during that effort. Ironically, any steps taken under the NATO umbrella would have prepared the alliance for future conflicts and crises at its borders.
 * The new state of affairs, which emerged out of the war in Ukraine, proves that Turkey’s expectations and calls were accurate. Certain member states, which suddenly appreciated Turkey’s geopolitical positioning as that conflict caused widespread disruption, saw that our nation had been right to take certain steps in the past. Turkey was right to ask NATO members to prepare for coming geopolitical challenges and, in spite of those who argued that NATO was irrelevant, Turkey was absolutely right to state that the organisation would be increasingly important.
 * As all NATO allies accept Turkey’s critical importance to the alliance, it is unfortunate that some members fail fully to appreciate certain threats to our country. Turkey maintains that the admission of Sweden and Finland entails risks for its own security and the organisation’s future. We have every right to expect those countries, which will expect NATO’s second-largest army to come to their defence under Article 5, to prevent the recruitment, fundraising and propaganda activities of the PKK, which the European Union and United States consider a terrorist entity.
 * Turkey wants the candidate countries to curb the activities of all terrorist organisations and extradite the members of these organisations. We provided clear evidence to the authorities in these countries and waited for action from them. Also Turkey wants these countries to support the anti-terror operations of NATO members. Terrorism is a threat for all members and the candidate countries should recognise this reality before joining. Unless they take necessary steps, Turkey will not change its position on this issue.
 * Furthermore, Turkey stresses that all forms of arms embargoes—such as the one Sweden has imposed on my country—are incompatible with the spirit of military partnership under the NATO umbrella. Such restrictions not only undermine our national security but also damage NATO’s own identity. Sweden’s and Finland’s uncompromising insistence on joining the alliance has added an unnecessary item to NATO’s agenda.
 * Turkey’s objection to the admission of Sweden and Finland, which remained neutral up until the most recent developments, represents a decisive step taken on behalf of all nations that have been targeted by terrorist organisations to date. At the end of the day, terrorism has no religion, nation or colour. That each member state decisively stands up to any organisation that aims to harm the civilian population is one of NATO’s core aims. No country enjoys any privilege in that regard.
 * When it comes to solving problems and promoting global peace and security, there may not always be shortcuts. Yet the path to success could be shortened by taking bold and necessary steps along the way. Where Sweden and Finland stand on the national security concerns and considerations of other countries, with which they would like to be allies, will determine to what extent Turkey would like to be allies with those states.
 * The ignorance and obtrusiveness of those who dare to question the relationship between Turkey, which has adopted a positive and constructive approach regarding the alliance’s expansion in the past, and NATO does not change our stance. Our country, which is open to all forms of diplomacy and dialogue, strongly recommends that such focus be directed instead to persuading the candidates to change their positions. There is no authority in Ankara that can be told what to do by any country that is unwilling to fight terrorism. We believe that the reputation and the credibility of the alliance will be at risk if NATO members follow double standards in regard to the fight against terrorism.

Dialogue with an unemployed

 * Citizen: She mentions that she can't find a job.
 * Erdoğan: They're (Those who cannot retire due to age [EYT]) all looking for abuse. There is no early retirement. Do you know how many retirement age in Europe?
 * Citizen: We cannot find a job sir! I'm really two college graduates but I'm unemployed now.
 * Erdoğan: What is your husband doing?
 * Citizen: He's working now.
 * Erdoğan: Did you see?

Dialogue with a farmer

 * Farmer(Mustafa Kemal Öncel): What's going to happen to the farmer! How dare you come here! (Upon Erdoğan's call) I coming, coming! Prime Minister of my state! Coming... (Upon the request to control the guards) I don't have anything. Be relax...
 * Erdoğan: Don't yell! Don't be rude!
 * Farmer: I didn't rude! Please don't insult me! (When one of the guards holds his arm) Aaahh! My arm is operated!
 * Erdoğan: Don't artistry.
 * Farmer: I'm not artistrying. I'm not artist.
 * Erdoğan: You're a good artist! Don't be rude!
 * Farmer: Do you know your Minister of Agriculture has break the law?
 * Erdoğan: (Lowered his voice) Ulan don't be rude!
 * Farmer: Ulan?
 * Erdoğan: Yep! Don't be rude!
 * Farmer: Ulan? No problem!
 * Erdoğan: Don't teach me the constitution! Do you realize what you're given to the farmer right now?
 * Farmer: What time?
 * Erdoğan: Now!
 * Farmer: After my crop died? We've hadding trouble for two years.
 * Farmer: (While being taken by cops) Don't call ulan to me! Shame! Who shoots? Who shoots? Why did you shoot to me? Look, I called "Mr. Prime Minister", he called "ulan" to me! He doesn't have the power to come face to face to me! (For the questions of journalists) My name is Mustafa Kemal Öncel! Follow me! Be the voice of the people!

About

 * Erdogan once said that democracy for him is a bus ride. “Once I get to my stop, I’m getting off."
 * King Abdullah II of Jordan
 * Quoted by Jeffrey Goldberg, Bloomberg News, July 4, 2013.

 * Turkey’s president is blackmailing the United States by threatening to curb his country’s support for the international coalition against the Islamic State. His goal: to ensure my extradition, despite a lack of credible evidence and virtually no prospect for a fair trial. The temptation to give Mr. Erdogan whatever he wants is understandable. But the United States must resist it.
 * Fethullah Gülen, "Fethullah Gulen: I Condemn All Threats to Turkey’s Democracy", The New York Times (July 26, 2016)

 * How would the world respond if a European prime minister called for the mass deportation of all Turks? Yet Erdogan's xenophobic demagoguery attracted precisely no condemnation from Washington or Brussels. He probably overestimated the number of "tolerated" economic refugees from neighboring and former Soviet Armenia, but is it not interesting that he keeps a count in his head? And a count of the tiny number of surviving Turkish Armenians as well? The outburst strengthens the already strong case for considering Erdogan to be somewhat personally unhinged.
 * Christopher Hitchens, "Shut Up About Armenians or We'll Hurt Them Again", Slate (April 5, 2010)

 * There was a young fellow from Ankara Who was a terrific wankerer Till he sowed his wild oats With the help of a goat But he didn’t even stop to thankera.
 * Boris Johnson wins The Spectator’s President Erdogan Offensive Poetry competition, 18 May 2016.

 * Turkey doesn’t understand that, for the United States, buying a sophisticated Russian air defense system is a major national security issue that can’t be papered over. But Americans don’t understand that all their tough talk about leveling sanctions against Turkey if the Russian arms sale goes through only plays into Turkish leaders’ hands politically... Speaking at a forum on Ankara-Washington relations hosted by the Hudson Institute in Washington, Hudson fellow Blaise Misztal said that, to President Tayyip Erdogan and his political coalition partners, “sanctions and kicking you out of 'NATO is a winning policy” because it fuels long-standing and growing anti-Americanism in their nationalist-leaning array of parties. Since 2014, and particularly after a failed coup attempt in 2016 that many Turks believe was known in Washington before it was launched, Erdogan “is becoming closer to [Vladimir] Putin, Bashir al] Assad, Iran and China” to burnish his nationalist credentials, Misztal said. As an example of how this plays out, Erdogan told his parliament Wednesday the nation is “passing through a very critical period, from economy to security.”  He warned about plotters still inside its borders and their outside supporters. At the same time as Erdogan spoke, a Turkish newspaper reported the defense ministry is sending troops to Russia to receive familiarization training for the S-400 air defense system.
 * The U.S. Naval Institute News, Panel: US/Turkey Dispute Over Buying Russian Air Defense System Has Deeper Roots  by   John Grady, (22 May 2019)

 * There was a strange aftertaste to many of the calls for grand social reform in 2020. As the coronavirus crisis overtook us, the left wing on both sides of the Atlantic, at least that part that had been fired up Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders, was going down to defeat. The promise of a radicalized and reenergized left, organized around the idea of the Green New Deal, seemed to dissipate amidst the pandemic. It fell to governments mainly of the center and the right to meet the crisis. They were a strange assortment. Jair Bolsonaro in Brazil and Donald Trump in the United States experimented with denial. For them climate skepticism and virus skepticism went hand in hand. In Mexico, the notionally left-wing government of Andrés Manuel López Obrador also pursued a maverick path, refusing to take drastic action. Nationalist strongmen like Rodrigo Duterte in the Philippines, Narendra Modi in India, Vladimir Putin in Russia, and Recep Tayyip Erdoğan in Turkey did not deny the virus, but relied on their patriotic appeal and bullying tactics to see them through. It was the managerial centrist types who were under most pressure. Figures like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer in the United States, or Sebastián Piñera in Chile, or Cyril Ramaphosa in South Africa, Emmanuel Macron, Angela Merkel, Ursula von der Leyen, and their ilk in Europe. They accepted the science. Denial was not an option. They were desperate to demonstrate that they were better than the 'populists.' To meet the crisis, very middle-of-the-road politicians ended up doing very radical things. Most of it was improvisation and compromise, but insofar as they managed to put a programmatic gloss on their responses—whether in the form of the EU's Next Generation program or Biden's Build Back Better program in 2020—it came from the repertoire of green modernization, sustainable development, and the Green New Deal.
 * Adam Tooze, Shutdown: How Covid Shook the World Economy (2021)

 * Unfortunately, it is not enough to be right in the current world order; you need to be mighty as well. The criticism Erdoğan has been directing to the existing world order for years by stating that the world is bigger than five has actualized. Erdoğan has thus revealed de facto that justice cannot be expected from the current world order. You do not demand rights from this world order, you take it.
 * Yasin Aktay Baku sends 'loud and clear' message to whole world after Karabakh war (13 December 2020)

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Hassan al-Banna

Hassan Ahmed Abdel Rahman Muhammed al-Banna (Arabic: حسن أحمد عبد الرحمن محمد البنا; 14 October 1906 – 12 February 1949), known as Hassan al-Banna, was an Egyptian schoolteacher and imam, best known for founding the Muslim Brotherhood in 1928.

Quotes

 * Brethren! God gives the ummah that is skilled in the practice of death and that knows how to die a noble death, an exalted life in this world and eternal felicity in the next. What is the fantasy that has reduced us to loving this world and hating death? If you gird yourselves for a lofty deed and yearn for death, life shall be given to you. Know then that death is inevitable, and that it can only happen once. If you suffer it in the way of God, it will be your profit in this world, and your reward in the next.
 * translated and annotated by Charles Wendell.

 * The civilization of the West, which was brilliant by virtue of its scientific perfection for a long time, and which subjugated the whole world with the products of this science to its states and nations, is now bankrupt and in decline.
 * translated and annotated by Charles Wendell.

 * If the Jewish state becomes a fact, and this is realized by the Arab peoples, they will drive the Jews who live in their midst into the sea.
 * AIM TO OUST JEWS PLEDGED BY SHEIKH, New York Times, August 02, 1948

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Muslim Brotherhood

The Society of the Muslim Brothers (جماعة الإخوان المسلمين, Jami'ah al-Ikhwān al-Muslimūn), shortened to the , is a transnational  organization founded in Egypt by Islamic scholar and schoolteacher  in 1928. The organisation gained supporters throughout the Arab world and influenced other Islamist groups such as Hamas with its "model of political activism combined with Islamic charity work", and in 2012 sponsored the elected political party in Egypt after the January Revolution in 2011. However, it suffered from periodic government crackdowns for alleged terrorist activities, and as of 2015 is considered a terrorist organization by the governments of, Egypt, Russia, Syria, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.

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 * It is a complex subject: the Muslim Brotherhood comprises both a transnational network, with links in the UK, and national organisations in and outside the . The movement is deliberately opaque, and habitually secretive.
 * David Cameron, Muslim Brotherhood Review (20 July 2015)

 * The Muslim Brotherhood’s foundational texts call for the progressive moral purification of individuals and Muslim societies and their eventual political unification in a under Sharia law. To this day the Muslim Brotherhood characterises Western societies and liberal Muslims as decadent and immoral. It can be seen primarily as a political project.
 * David Cameron, Muslim Brotherhood Review (20 July 2015)

 * Parts of the Muslim Brotherhood have a highly ambiguous relationship with violent extremism. Both as an ideology and as a network it has been a rite of passage for some individuals and groups who have gone on to engage in violence and terrorism. It has stated its opposition to al-Qaida (AQ) but it has never credibly denounced the use made by terrorist organisations of the work of Sayyid Qutb, one of the Brotherhood’s most prominent ideologues. Individuals closely associated with the Muslim Brotherhood in the UK have supported and other attacks in Israel by Hamas, an organisation whose military wing has been proscribed in the UK since 2001 as a terrorist organisation, and which describes itself as the Palestinian chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood.
 * David Cameron, Muslim Brotherhood Review (20 July 2015)

 * Aspects of the Muslim Brotherhood’s ideology and activities therefore run counter to British values of democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty, equality and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs. The Muslim Brotherhood is not the only movement that promotes values which appear intolerant of equality and freedom of faith and belief. Nor is it the only movement or group dedicated in theory to revolutionising societies and changing existing ways of life. But I have made clear this government’s determination to reject intolerance, and to counter not just violent Islamist extremism, but also to tackle those who create the conditions for it to flourish.
 * David Cameron, Muslim Brotherhood Review (20 July 2015)

 * The process of settlement is a "Civilization-Jihadist Process" with all the word means. The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.
 * 'An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America,' 1981 from United States District Court, Northern District of Texas, "USA v. Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development, ElBarasse Search-3."

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Wikiquote:Votes for deletion/Dennis Fakes (second nomination)

Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 10:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

Dennis Fakes
The page has no intro, no assertion of notability, no context, no content (other than its one quote)... It survived a previous VfD with no consensus almost half of a year ago. I have merged the relevant information into Parenting (something suggest at the previous VfD) and attributed the contributor in the summary. The page is now speedy deletable, but I would rather get community consensus on this by means of a VfD because of its history (previously VfD'ed).  Cbrown1023  talk  15:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Vote closed: Result: Delete. Fys. “Ta fys aym”. 10:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Delete as nom.  Cbrown1023  talk  15:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Not very much use!--Cato 22:45, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. BD2412 T 02:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete Tyrenius 03:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete now that Cbrown1023 has done the merge. Thanks! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. - InvisibleSun 02:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. ~ UDScott 15:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete--Jusjih 17:24, 16 April 2007 (UTC)


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User talk:Jonah Fox

Jonah Louis David Fox

Keen student of medicinal biology born 1 Septempber 1988

Quotations

"The problem with religion arises when people follow them ... religiously"

"The best lessons cannot be taught"

"potential is only something that has not been achieved"

"everyone wants to preserve their sense of cultural identity, faschists are the ones that take it too far"

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Talk:Artemus Ward

Added item attributed to Artemus Ward:

"It ain’t so much the things we don’t know that get us into trouble, it’s the things we do know that just ain’t so."
 * Quoted in the article "Knowledge in the U.S." by Robert McHenry, Chicago Tribune 3/21/05)
 * Tclose 16:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That attribution appears to be incorrect or for a variant of an earlier quote; see Josh Billings. Abb3w (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

This exact quote is attributed to, "the humorist, Artemus Ward," near the end of the 1946 movie, Sister Kenny, starring Rosalind Russell.

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 * If you can provide a precise and verifiable source for any quote on this list please move it to.

 * I have given two cousins to war and I stand ready to sacrifice my wife's brother.
 * My wife is one of the best wimin on this Continent, altho' she isn't always gentle as a lamb with mint sauce.
 * The happy married man dies in good stile at home, surrounded by his weeping wife and children. The old bachelor don't die at all - he sort of rots away, like a pollywog's tail.
 * They drink with impunity, or anybody who invites them.
 * Why don't you show us a statesman who can rise up to the emergency, and cave in the emergency's head?
 * It ain't so much the things we don't know that get us into trouble, it's the things we do know that just ain't so.

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