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Back to the Future Part II

Back to the Future Part II is a 1989 sequel to Back to the Future. After visiting 2015, Marty McFly must repeat his visit to 1955 to prevent disastrous changes to 1985…without interfering with his first trip.
 * Directed by Robert Zemeckis. Written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale.

Getting back was only the beginning. (taglines)

Doc Brown

 * [about to throw out the almanac] The Skyway's jammed. It's gonna take us forever to get there. And this stays here. I didn't invent the time machine to win at gambling; I invented the time machine to travel through time.
 * My only regret is that I'll never get a chance to visit my favorite historical era, the Old West. But time-traveling is just too dangerous. Better that I devote myself to study the other great mystery of the universe: Women.
 * [about Biff having gone back to November 12, 1955] Unbelievable that Old Biff could've chosen that particular date. It could mean that that point in time inherently contains some sort of cosmic significance. Almost as if it were the temporal junction point of the entire space-time continuum. On the other hand, it would just be an amazing coincidence.

Dialogue

 * [Marty and Doc notice the cops taking an unconscious Jennifer away]
 * Doc: They're taking her home, to your future home! We'll arrive shortly thereafter, get her out of there, and go back to 1985.
 * Marty: You mean, I'm gonna see where I live? I'm gonna see myself as an old man?
 * Doc: No, no, no, Marty. That could result in a-- [gasps in shock] Great Scott! Jennifer could conceivably encounter her future self! The consequences of that could be disastrous!
 * Marty: Doc, what do you mean?
 * Doc: I foresee two possibilities. 1: coming face to face with herself 30 years older would put her into shock and she'd simply pass out. Or 2: the encounter could create a time paradox, the result of which could cause a chain reaction that would unravel the very fabric of the spacetime continuum and destroy the entire universe! Granted, that's a worst-case scenario. The destruction might in fact be very localized, limited to merely our own galaxy.
 * Marty: Well, that's a relief.

 * [2015 Jennifer and 1985 Jennifer see each other; they gasp in unison]
 * 1985 Jennifer: I'm old!
 * 2015 Jennifer: I'm young!
 * [both faint]
 * Doc: Marty! Marty! Marty, come quick. Quick.

 * Doc: Obviously, the time continuum has been disrupted, creating this new...temporal event sequence resulting in this alternate reality.
 * Marty: English, Doc.
 * Doc: Here, here, here. Let me, uh, let me illustrate. [brings over a chalkboard] Imagine that this line [draws a straight line across the board] represents time. Here's the present, 1985, the future and the past.
 * [Doc writes "Past" on left side, "1985" in the middle, and "F" for Future on the right]
 * Doc: [points at the area before 1985] Prior to this point in time, somewhere in the past, the timeline [draws another line] skewed into this tangent creating an alternate 1985. [writes 1985A on chalkboard] Alternate to you, me and Einstein, but reality for everyone else.
 * [Doc brings over a silver, small folded plastic bag]
 * Doc: Recognize this? It's the bag the sports book came in. I know, because the receipt was still inside. I found them in the time machine...along with this.
 * [Doc shows Marty a small fisted object]
 * Marty: It's the top of Biff's cane. I mean, Old Biff from the future.
 * Doc: Correct. It was in the time machine because Biff was in the time machine, with the Sports Almanac.
 * Marty: Holy shit.
 * Doc: You see, while we were in the future, Biff got the sports book, stole the time machine, [draws an overarching line across the chalkboard] went back in time, and gave the book to himself at some point in the past.
 * [Doc brings over a large newspaper]
 * Doc: Look. [scoffs] It says right here that Biff made his first million betting on a horse race in 1958. He wasn't just lucky. He knew because he had all the race results in the Sports Almanac. That's how he made his entire fortune. Look at his pocket with a magnifying glass.
 * Marty: The Almanac...Son of a bitch stole my idea! He must have been listening when I...It's my fault. The whole thing is my fault. If I hadn't bought that damn book, none of this would have ever happened.
 * Doc: Well, it's all in the past.
 * Marty: You mean the future?
 * Doc: Whatever! It demonstrates precisely how time travel can be misused, and why the time machine must be destroyed, after we straighten all of this out.
 * Marty: Right. So, we go back to the future, and we stop Biff from stealing the time machine.
 * Doc: We can't, because if we travel into the future from this point in time, it will be the future of this... [indicates 1985A on the blackboard] reality, in which Biff is corrupt, and powerful, and married to your mother, and in which...[holds up a newspaper; the headline reads: "EMMETT BROWN COMMITTED"] this has happened to me! No...Our only chance to repair the present is in the past, at the point where the timeline skewed into this tangent. In order to put the universe back as we remember it and get back to our reality, we have to find out the exact date and specific circumstances of how, where, and when young Biff got his hands on that Sports Almanac.
 * Marty: I'll ask him.

 * [at Biff's home garage]
 * Old Biff: [shows his younger self "Grey's Sports Almanac"] Ya see this book? This book tells the future. Tells the results of every major sports event 'til the end of the century. Football, Baseball, Horseraces, Boxing. The information in here is worth millions. And I'm givin’ it to you. [passes his younger self the book]
 * Young Biff: [sarcastically] That's very nice. Thank you very much. Now, why don't you make like a tree, [skims through the pages] and get outta here?
 * Old Biff: [smacks his younger self] It's "leave", you idiot! "Make like a tree, and leave"! You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong!
 * Young Biff: All right, then! [tosses the almanac aside] Leave! And take your book with ya!

 * 1955 Doc: Excuse me, sir?
 * [1985 Doc turns and catch a glimpse of his younger self, gasps, and looks away]
 * 1955 Doc: Yes, you with the hat.
 * 1985 Doc: Who? Me?
 * 1955 Doc: Yeah. Be a pal, and hand me a 5/8" wrench outta that toolbox.
 * 1985 Doc: [backs up slowly without turning] 5/8? Uh...don't you mean...[looks to the toolbox] 3/4?
 * 1955 Doc: [looks again at the bolt measurement] Why, you're right.
 * 1985 Doc: I presume...you're creating some sort of weather experiment. [hands the wrench to his younger self]
 * 1955 Doc: That's right. How did you know that?
 * 1985 Doc: [checks the cable] Oh, I happened to have had a little experience in this area.
 * 1955 Doc: Yes. [looks up at the sky] Well, I'm hoping to see some lightning tonight, although the weatherman says there's not gonna be any rain.
 * 1985 Doc: [looks to the sky as well] Oh, there’ll be plenty of rain, alright. Wind, thunder, lightning. And it's gonna be one hell of a storm.
 * 1955 Doc: Yeah well, thanks. Nice talking to you. Maybe we'll bump into each other again sometime in the future. [goes to tighten the bolts]
 * 1985 Doc: ...Or in the past.

 * [Western Union presents Marty with a letter from Doc]
 * Marty: [reads the letter] "Dear Marty, if my calculations are correct, you will receive this letter immediately after you saw the DeLorean struck by lightning. First, let me assure you that I am alive and well. I've been living happily these past eight months in the year 1885. The lightning bolt that--" [looks at the date] 1885! September 1885!
 * Western Union Man: Whoa! Wait, kid! What's this all about?!
 * Marty: He's alive! The Doc's alive! He's in the Old West, but he's alive!
 * Western Union Man: Kid, you all right?! You need any help?!
 * Marty: There's only one man who can help me!

 * [after Marty has gone back to 1985, the Marty that came from the alternate 1985 suddenly shows up from down the street and runs to the unsuspecting 1955 Doc]
 * Marty: Doc, Doc! [grabs Doc, who shouts in shock] Okay. Okay! Relax, Doc! It's me! It's Marty!
 * Doc: No! It can't be! I just sent you back to the future.
 * Marty: I know. You did send me back to the future, but I'm back. I'm back from the future.
 * Doc: Great Scott! [faints]

Taglines

 * Getting back was only the beginning.
 * Synchronize your watches. The future's coming back…
 * Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads!
 * This time Marty McFly doesn't know if he's coming or going...and his future is really up in the air.
 * Welcome Back Marty McFly. He's smart. He's handsome. He's got a great future behind him.

Cast

 * Michael J. Fox — Marty McFly/Marty McFly Jr./Marlene McFly
 * Christopher Lloyd — Dr. Emmett Brown
 * Thomas F. Wilson — Biff Tannen/Griff Tannen
 * Lea Thompson — Lorraine Baines-McFly-Tannen
 * Jeffrey Weissman — George McFly
 * James Tolkan — Mr. Strickland
 * Elisabeth Shue — Jennifer Parker-McFly
 * Billy Zane — Match
 * Charles Fleischer — Terry
 * Flea — Needles

About

 * Once the film came out and was this huge success, the studio very quickly said, "We must have a sequel!" But because the second one was such a long script, and they couldn't find any way to shorten it, they decided to make it as two films. I'm surprised the second one wasn't marketed as "part two of three". A lot of people found it less rewarding because it didn't have the fun and lightness of the first one, but then the third one makes sense of the second – it all connects up. I think the first film resonates so well with audiences because of the element of wish-fulfilment at its heart. We've all said to ourselves, "I wish I could go back in time and change something" or, "If only I could do that over again".
 * Bob Gale, co-writer/producer

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Back to the Future Part III

Back to the Future Part III is a 1990 American/British/Australian science fiction Western film sequel to Back to the Future Part II. After traveling back to 1885, Marty McFly finds Dr. Emmett Brown and must save him from being shot to death by outlaw Buford "Mad Dog" Tannen.
 * Directed by Robert Zemeckis. Written by Robert Zemeckis and Bob Gale.

They've saved the best trip for last... But this time they may have gone too far. (taglines)

Doc Brown

 * [after setting Marty free with his rifle] It'll shoot the fleas off a dog's back at 500 yards, Tannen! And it's pointed straight at your head!

Marty McFly

 * [holding baby William] So you're my great-grandfather. The first McFly born in America. And you peed on me.

Dialogue

 * [November 12, 1955; after Marty has gone back to 1985, 1985A Marty suddenly shows up from down the street and runs to the unsuspecting 1955 Doc]
 * Marty: Doc, Doc! [grabs Doc, who shouts in shock] Okay. Okay! Relax, Doc! It's me! It's Marty!
 * Doc: No! It can't be! I just sent you back to the future.
 * Marty: I know. You did send me back to the future, but I'm back. I'm back from the future.
 * Doc: Great Scott! [faints]

 * Doc: [recording his speech, not noticing Marty] Date: Sunday, November 13, 1955. 7:01 A.M. Last night's time travel experiment was apparently a complete success. Lightning struck the clock tower at precisely 10:04 P.M., sending the necessary 1.21 gigawatts into the time vehicle, which vanished in a brilliant flash of light, leaving a pair of fire trails behind. I therefore assume that Marty and the time vehicle were transported forward through time into the year 1985. After that-- After that, I can't recall what happened. In fact, I don't even remember how I got home. Perhaps the gigawatt discharge, coupled with the temporal displacement field generated by the time vehicle, caused a disruption of my own brain waves, resulting in a condition of momentary amnesia. Indeed, I now recall that moments after the time vehicle disappeared into the future, I saw a vision of Marty saying he had come back from the future.
 * Marty: Hey, Doc.
 * Doc: [turns around] Undoubtedly, this was some sort of residual image.
 * Marty: Doc. [Doc sees him, screams, trips on Marty's 2015 hoverboard, and lands on his organ, which plays ascending ominous notes] Doc, calm down, okay? Just calm down! It's me! It's Marty!
 * Doc: No!!! It can't be you! I sent back to the future!
 * Marty: That's right, Doc, that's right, but I came back again, I came back from the future. Don't you remember last night? You fainted; I brought ya home.
 * Doc: This can't be happening! [the notes stop playing] You can't be here! It doesn't make sense for you to be here! [goes into the bathrooom] I refuse to even believe that you are here! [slams the door]
 * Marty: Doc, I am here, and it does make sense! Look, I came back to 1955 again with you, the you from 1985, 'cause we had to get a book from Biff! So, once I got the book back, you, that is, the you from 1985, were in the DeLorean, and it got struck by lightning, and got sent back to 1885!
 * Doc: 1885?! [opening the door] It's a very interesting story, future boy, but there's just one little thing that doesn't make sense. If the me of the future is now in the past, how could you possibly know about it?
 * Marty: You sent me a letter.

 * [Doc and Marty rent a tow truck to get the DeLorean out of the mine shaft; Copernicus freezes upon seeing an adjacent graveyard; Marty follows him and is in shock]
 * Marty: DOC!! DOC!! Come here, quick!
 * Doc: What's wrong, Marty? You look like you've seen a ghost.
 * Marty: You're not far off, Doc.
 * Doc: [sees the tombstone; alarmed] Oh, Great Scott!
 * Marty: Check this out. "Died September 7th, 1885". That's one week after you wrote the letter! "Erected in memory by his beloved Clara." Who the hell is Clara?!
 * Doc: Marty, please don't stand there!
 * Marty: Oh, right! [steps off grave plot] Sorry, I better get another picture.
 * Doc: "Shot in the back by Buford Tannen over a matter of $80"?! What kind of a future do you call that?!

 * Doc: Well, good luck. For both our sakes. See you in the future.
 * Marty: You mean the past.
 * Doc: Exactly!

 * Buford: You owe me money, blacksmith.
 * Doc: How do ya figure?
 * Buford: My horse threw his shoe. And seein' as you was the one who done the shoein', I say that makes you responsible.
 * Doc: Well, since you never paid me for the job, I say that makes us even!
 * Buford: Wrong! See, I was on my horse when he threw the shoe and I got throwed off! And that caused me to bust a perfectly good bottle of fine Kentucky Red-Eye. So, the way I figure it, blacksmith, you owe me $5 for the whiskey and $75 for the horse.
 * Marty: [under his breath; hoarsely] That's the $80.
 * Doc: Look, if your horse threw his shoe, bring him back, and I'll re-shoe him!
 * Buford: I done shot that horse!
 * Doc: Well, that's your problem, Tannen!
 * Buford: Wrong. That's yours. So, from now on, you better be lookin' behind you when you walk, 'cause one day, you're gonna get a bullet in your back!

 * [Doc has just saved Marty from being hanged by Buford]
 * Marty: Doc!
 * Doc: Marty, I gave you explicit instructions not to come here, but to go directly back to 1985.
 * Marty: I know, Doc, but I had to come.
 * Doc: [smiles] But it's good to see you, Marty. [he and Doc hug] Marty, you're gonna have to do something about those clothes. You walk around town dressed like that, you're liable to get shot.
 * Marty: Or hanged.
 * Doc: What idiot dressed you in that outfit?
 * Marty: You did.

 * Marty: Clayton Ravine was named after a teacher. They say she fell in there a hundred years ago.
 * Doc: A hundred years ago? That's this year!
 * Marty: Every kid in school knows that story 'cause we all have teachers we'd like to see fall into the ravine.
 * Doc: Great Scott! Then she was supposed to go over in that wagon! And now... I may have seriously altered history.

 * Doc: [mildly intoxicated] In the future, we don't need horses. We have motorized carriages called "automobiles". [Zeke, Jeb and Levi laugh]
 * Jeb: If everybody's got one of these auto-whats-its, does anybody walk or run anymore?
 * Doc: Of course we run, but for recreation. For fun.
 * Jeb: Run for fun? What the hell kinda fun is that?! [barflies keep laughing]

 * [Last lines]
 * [Marty and Jennifer are surprised at the Brown family's appearance]
 * Jennifer: Dr. Brown? I brought this note back from the future, and now it's erased.
 * Doc: Of course it's erased!
 * Jennifer: But what does that mean?
 * Doc: It means your future hasn't been written yet. No one's has. Your future is whatever you make it, so make it a good one. Both of ya.
 * Marty: We will, Doc!
 * Doc: Stand back! All right, boys, buckle up.
 * Marty: Hey, Doc! Where you goin’ now? Back to the future?
 * Doc: Nope. Already been there.

Taglines

 * They saved the best trip for last... but this time... they had gone too far.
 * See you in the summer! You mean Summer 1990.
 * Meet Marty. He's the kid who gets back... 100 years earlier.
 * When the heck are they? In the summer!
 * Doc is dead... again. But this time... they broke the time barrier and destroyed the time machine.
 * The rip-roarin' conclusion to the greatest adventure of all time.
 * It's the last round-up... the final showdown... the rootin' tootin' conclusion to the greatest adventure of all time.

Cast

 * Michael J. Fox — Marty McFly/Seamus McFly
 * Christopher Lloyd — Dr. Emmett Brown
 * Thomas F. Wilson — Buford 'Mad Dog' Tannen/Biff Tannen
 * Mary Steenburgen — Clara Clayton
 * Lea Thompson — Maggie McFly/Lorraine McFly
 * Elisabeth Shue — Jennifer Parker
 * James Tolkan — Chief Marshal James Strickland
 * Dub Taylor — Saloon Old-Timer #1 (Levi)
 * Harry Carey Jr. — Saloon Old-Timer #2 (Zeke)
 * Pat Buttram — Saloon Old-Timer #3 (Jeb)
 * ZZ Top — Festival Band in 1885 Hill Valley

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I reverted your addition of a quote to the Votes for QOTD page. You have added it to the top, whereas the quotes are for specific dates. If you wish to add the quote to the candidates for a specific date, you will want to do the following: 1. Add it under the date's heading. 2. Explain who CCC is, why he is notable (preferably, by making a wikiquote/wikipedia page about him) 3. Register, if you want to vote for it.

I've attached the quote here for your convenience:

"There is nothing easy about shooting a fish in a barrel. A barrel is a very cumbersome article of clothing. When you run through the forest looking for a fish to shoot, you'll find that you are often stumbling and running into things. Charlie Currie Campbellville, Ontario, Canada"

Please note if the quote is yours or a friend of yours, wikiquote collects only quotes of famous people. You are free to register and add that quote to your user page. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 14:59, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

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Wikiquote is not a place for quotes by you or your neighbours -- however, feel free to add them to your user page. For your convenience, I have moved your quotes here from Proverb: A bird in the hand. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:20, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Charlie Currie says: "A bird in the hand, when you're in the bush, is still just one bird."

Charlie Currie says: "Always sell your birds in the bush."

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Please do not add profanity and drug warnings to pages you find offensive, such as the Mitch_Hedberg page. Wiki is not child safe. Nor will it ever be. As there are too many offensive things in this world. Sveden 15:28, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Zikzak23. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Zikzak23~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Sock puppet(s)
Thahk you for your information. Well, just my personal opinion, we don't have a habit to call anons sockpuppets ... it is applied only to register (and mostly one-time) users in my impression. Though after reviewing related pages, I understand why you would have liked to say so. At least the second anon seemed to claim he is not identical with our "214" .--Aphaia 4 July 2005 08:38 (UTC)

Sysop nomination
MosheZadka, as I threatened earlier, I'd like to nominate you for Wikiquote sysop, if you're interested. It may seem like bad timing, right in the middle of this Abortion fiasco, but that just reminded me that we're shorthanded and that I was just waiting for you to acquire some more WQ experience. You been editing here not quite three months, but you've made over 1300 edits, worked on a growing variety of articles, added quite a few yourself, participated in some ugly anti-vandalism efforts, and been a regular VfD contributor (all of which I wrote down here so it's handy for my nomination, should you choose to accept ☺). Let me know, at your leisure, what you think. — Jeff Q (talk) 4 July 2005 16:21 (UTC)

 * I am very flattered, and happy to accept the nomination. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 4 July 2005 17:45 (UTC)

 * Excellent. I recommend you respond by accepting the nomination I just made on Requests for adminship when you get an opportunity, just to dot the is and cross the ts. — Jeff Q (talk) 5 July 2005 04:33 (UTC)

You are now a sysop— welcome to the ranks of Wikiquote administrators. Your services to the project have already been extensive, as a few others have already noted, and I expect you will make very good use of the additional abilities. We seem to have a pretty good spanning of the globe with our sysops now, and hopefully this will help us keep many of the vandals from making very much of a mess before they are blocked. ~ Kalki 05:59, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Invitation to identify problems, suggest solutions, debate, and vote

 * I was going to invite others to look at my analysis anyways, but Aphaia has suggested this:

 * "I would like you to consider if it is a good idea to invite other editors to read through over 100K talk. In my opinion, it is a sort of burden and shut out most of editors. And I suspect who is now interested in this issue. --Aphaia 5 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)", and I shall do as asked.

 * You are invited by me, Moshe, to look at my analysis at: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Talk:Abortion#Analysis_and_proposed_solutions and see if all the problems are identified, and if not, add one or two. Also, please notice that you can post your proposed solutions below. Afterwards, we can briefly discuss and then vote on different ideas. Don't worry: I addressed all concerns, but if you don't believe me, check it out. Sorry for the length, but many people had many problems.

 * In conclusion, I have done all the research: Read my analysis, debate it, vote on it, and accept the vote -even if it goes against you; All will be well. Take my word for it. Have a nice day.--GordonWattsDotCom 5 July 2005 05:52 (UTC)

Hey!
Thanks for welcoming me! --Smoothhenry 5 July 2005 08:35 (UTC)
 * And also for your merger ;-) --Aphaia 6 July 2005 08:15 (UTC)

That is OK; it reduces page-clutter
I got your message on my talk page regarding moving some off-topic comments; I will try to send the anon an email, assuming that it was she who emailed me. Hopefully the new user is experienced enough to see comments in the page history. That is what I do. Thank you for dropping me a note; I am sorry that I don't have time to fully contribute and at a slower pace. Hope my contribs and thoughts were helpful. Take care, --GordonWattsDotCom 6 July 2005 11:37 (UTC)

Templates
Hi, MosheZadka, I think your template "sign" is very helpful. I wonder if you would have an idea to create similar templates, for instance, for preview recommendation. And also we need to consider re-design Template:Welcome. Perhaps better after re-organozation of edit guide documents like "Guide to layout". I hope to hear your idea. Cheers, --Aphaia 6 July 2005 14:22 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome!
I'm new here but the choice of category for Western Gull seemed peculiar. How is a bird a place? Sabine's Sunbird 8 July 2005 00:53 (UTC)

Thank u for the welcome, I got a bit of a longer one from UtherSRG in Wikipedia. Well Thanks again

Le Dieu ...
What do you mean with this quote? At any rate it seems a sort of joke, not discussion or necessary information. I can't figure what you meant totally --Aphaia 8 July 2005 07:20 (UTC)

 * Well, it is tongue-in-cheek reference :) I meant we should delete all these articles, since they're transitioned to ws which handles them better. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 07:22 (UTC)

Go
Hi, MosheZadka, I am afraid you analize a bit loosely our speedy deletion policy and it is doubtful for me if you have checked possible links to the Go (board game); for example its Wikipedia equivalent. Besides it is not a proper speedy candidate, there might be some links from other websites, and it is not harmful to keep it as redirect. In addition, if I recall correctly, such merged article is usually kept as redirect. so I recommend you reconsider your request. Thank you. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 11:52 (UTC)
 * Changed, and thanks for your note! ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 11:54 (UTC)
 * Thanks! And sorry for rants (I made a bunch of typos in this message ...) --Aphaia 8 July 2005 11:55 (UTC)

Uncat
Hi, Moshe, I just saw your list --- are they all of uncategorized pages in fact? If so, it is really amazing. If not, your idea is still helpful and great. I put Petronius now under the authors' category. I hope to do so to some other names. --Aphaia 8 July 2005 13:50 (UTC)
 * Since it's mostly for myself (but also for others) the definition is somewhat fluid. It is of "uncategorized and/or horribly miscategorized pages". Thanks for the info, I'll remove Petronius from it! ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 13:59 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If I leave a note to each (re-)categorized page, do you mind? --Aphaia 8 July 2005 14:02 (UTC)
 * No, but it's better just to delete them from the list :) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 8 July 2005 14:05 (UTC)

Trantino
I have a different idea about it; because it is suspected to be a copyvio, you would be nice to keep it for review or at least could leave a link to the revision in quesion. And in my opinion, if it is a copyvio, it would be better to delete it once and then post a new version without problem. But it is just my personal thought. --Aphaia 22:38, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Done, see my message at WQ:VFD ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 22:44, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

Dark vs. Vampire
''Customarily, as I've heard the usage, "Dark Willow" refers to Willow going black-haired in the last episode of Season 6. The Vampire Willow in season 3 is usually called just that. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 19:12, 10 July 2005 (UTC)''

Point taken; character name has been edited in accordance with your suggestion. As originally posted, she was "Evil Willow", so I think my version, while erronneous, was still anm improvement. Thanks for your input. --RPickman 00:26, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Wow - that was FAST! Forgot to mention earlier that I tend to assume the always-thorough Jeff Q will correct any errors I make on the Buffy page… but it's better if he doesn't have to. --RPickman 00:35, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry; the "always-thorough" Jeff Q hasn't been as thorough or as fast of late. And you guys rarely make "errors" (a term I generally confine to inaccurate dialog), so much as style variations that I merely bring into conformance with my only partially-written guidelines (and only because everyone humors me by not overriding them). It's a good thing, too, that Buffy has so many conscientious editors — no reason I should have all the fun! ☺ — Jeff Q (talk) 06:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Humors you? Everyone takes your partially-written guidelines and copies them to their own pet TV show page, and even if not, tend to take it as consensusy enough to edit shows which don't have a clear guideline according to it...which is why I think it is time to write up a template. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 09:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Reply from Tualha

 * Hi, thanks for standardizing it, I don't really come here much so I don't know the style. I looked at a couple of old ones and copied their style. Cheers, Tualha 21:50, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Gilmore Girls collisions
Hmm. We seem to be messing with each other's attempts to move the massive additions to "Unknown episode" to the correct episodes in Gilmore Girls. I'll back off for a while and let you finish what you want to tackle; your sources seem to be somewhat more comprehensive than mine. I'm using GilmoreGirls.org transcripts that provide the complete dialog (although many eps aren't yet transcribed), so I can sort what they do have in chronological order. I must say that, despite the extra work our new contributor gave us, I'm glad to see more folks taking an interest in this excellent show! — Jeff Q (talk) 12:11, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks. I'll read up on formatting before I make any more additions.

Dave 17:38, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry if I seemed offended; I wasn't. Thanks again for the welcome. Dave 17:46, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Table O' Contents
Thanks for fixing the table of contents on Ratzinger or whatever his super form name is now. Would you mind explaining what the tag or syntax is for tables and why that one was in the middle of the article? Sveden 19:40, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations on sysophood
Congratulations on achieving sysophood! I probably don't have to tell you how happy I am that you've joined the official ranks after all the work you've been doing here. (But I guess I just did, anyway. ☺) And I like your use of a single tilde as a signature separator. It's more distinctive that the traditional hyphen or the double-dash, and it's easier to type than my &mdash; or the "—" Unicode character. Thanks for the idea! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:01, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome
Thanks for the welcome and intro. --ZeWrestler 12:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
 * by the way, how can i redirect my wikiquote profile to go automatically to my wikipedia profie? --ZeWrestler 12:53, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

SD

 * Hi, Jeff. Since this is the first time I've sent things to speedy delete (as opposed to deleting after a VfD), I wondered if you could look over the logs and tell me if I did everything alright. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 12:53, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

I assume you're talking about Talk:Frenetic Five/Alternative. (It's always a good idea and often essential to specify and provide a link to the article at issue. In this case, I hoped I figured it out correctly with a little research, but the less research you require for a favor, the more likely it'll get done. ☺ And I can't emphasize enough the utility of providing links to anything that a reader might reasonably click on for more information in any discussion, like the "speedy delete" link I added to your query above.) Anyway, addition to the category looks great, but I don't quite see how it meets any of the 10 guidelines for speedy deletion candidates. The closest I could come up with are the following:
 * 2. Test pages (eg "Can I really create a page here?").
 * This is meant for trivial test pages, primarily from newbies who don't know about using the Sandbox, not for proposed page changes and/or their discussions.
 * 9. Deleting an image which is an exact copy of something else, redundant, and unused.
 * This is not an image. Duplicate or unused articles or other pages should go through VfD. In fact, images have been VfD'd here also, as we know.
 * 10. Users requesting the deletion of their own personal subpages.
 * This is not a personal subpage. This rule exists because users are considered to have complete authority over their user namespace (subject only to community rules and review). Test pages for articles are considered community property, so their deletion should go through VfD. (That's why I sometimes create experimental pages under my user namespace.)

I also looked at the page and was somewhat confused by its purpose and effect. As of this moment, Frenetic Five does not follow the format shown in Talk:Frenetic Five/Alternative, so the db reason "main page already has that format" doesn't seem to be correct. Also, if you're going to use a subpage to present a recommended set of changes, it shouldn't be a Talk page. Talk pages are supposed to be for discussion about articles or related pages. Proposed changes for "Frenetic Five" would more appropriately go in a page titled "Frenetic Five/Alternative", so that its Talk page could be used to discuss issues about the alternative. (See Proposed Votes for deletion and its Talk page for an example of how this works.)

I recommend delisting "Talk:Frenetic Five/Alternative" from SD, reviewing its status, and then VfD'ing it if desired. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I meant I deleted them on sight, not applying to template. Perhaps it was a mistake? :( ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 13:26, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
 * (These pages: Talk:Martin Luther King Talk:Musicologist Dimitris Varos) ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 13:28, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh! (You see what I mean about specifying. ☺) I agree with your SDing of the two talk-page spams, although I would probably have blocked the IP for 24-48 hours first for the spamming. (Did 64.124.222.176 do any more spamming that has been deleted?) You were exactly correct to SD "Dimitris Varos"; I suspect we may eventually have to block the IP and/or create a blank article to prevent repeated attempts. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:37, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

cross referencing
is any cross referencing done automatically? if I added quotes to the love page, do they automatically get added to the authors' page, to the main index pages?

Also, the template for Theme quotes is insufficient for things such as poem excerpts (or play excerpts) where keeping line breaks is necessary. I came up with a suggestion on the page to look at, any comments on that?

Thanks! (Added by User:Zyrain)

 *   1. No, nothing is added automatically. WYSIWYG :) While this is a limitation of using wiki software rather than dedicated quotes-database software, I hope you will grow to appreciate the advantages. Please feel free to add these quotes to the people pages.
 *   2. If you feel a template is missing needed flexibility, please explain that on Wikiquote talk:Templates, where you can also make suggestions. We will be more than happy to work with you on better templates.

 * Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:08, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

True Calling

 * Hi, Jeff. I wondered why you changed the Eliza Dushku red-link to point to wikipedia? Is there a guideline on not redlinking actors or something? The reason I am asking is that I did this on purpose and noticed it was a redlink, and I thought it might be nice if we ever have a Dushku quote page. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 06:18, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Check out the template for films (which is essentially being used for TV shows as well). You'll notice that actors, writers, directors, etc., all have WP links instead of WQ links. For now, the vast majority of people in films and TV shows have no quote articles. (Many of them don't even have WP articles, but that's the place for editors to create the logical encylopedia articles.) Using WQ links instead of WP links in articles is one of the main reasons we keep getting useless encyclopedia stubs on people; editors see red links and decide to create a blurb about the person. That latter problem is hardly confined to TV and film articles, either — many such red links from theme articles get inappropriately turned blue, even though the editors have at least one quote to add to the new person article. (That's the problem — people still think more of encyc rather than quote for links, even here.)

As far as I know, we have no real guideline on when to change WP links to WQ links, other than the obvious — when someone creates a quote article for the person. Anyone familiar enough with WQ to know that's what we want hopefully knows to change such links, if they know about them. The real problem is that there's no convenient mechanism (like "What links here") to find such WP links even after the article is created. (A "Search" should do it, but that's not as easy, and one can miss spelling differences in the names.) The whole issue is just one more frontier for expanding Wikiquote. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:04, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

TV-show format instructions
You may have already noticed this, but in case you haven't, I've created an experimental page that permits a detailed formatting explanation for a given TV show (à la Talk:Buffy) without using talk pages, which are really a bad place for such instructions. (For why, see my comments about "Talk:Frenetic Five/Alternative" vs. "Frenetic Five/Alternative" above, as well as the detailed discourse RPickman and I had on the subject a while back.) Your comments and contributions would be greatly appreciated, especially since, at the current moment, you and I seem to be the two editors driving this TV-show format practice. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:28, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

List vote
Sorry for late reply, just now I visited your "list vote" page. Thank you for your compliment, it is my pleasure and honour. ;-) I think your preparation as quite nice. Would you introduce some examples of real usage of this feature on English Wikiquote? It would help voters to consider how it works to see both its appearance and source (wiki markuped text). --Aphaia 17:28, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Derek Devenpeck

 * Hi, Jeff. I am probably misunderstanding something -- should the dead discussion remain in WQ:VFD forever? Probably not. If so, does your "no archive" comment means the discussion should just be deleted? Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 10:54, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about the lack of clarity. Speedy-delete entries that appear on VFD apparently just get deleted, although we've left the 2 or 3 we've had for a few days, with a message like "as this was speedy-deleted, I will remove this entry after a few days for review" (from one of my prior deletions) to let people know their imminent fate. I know it feels a little funny, but I guess the idea is that they shouldn't have been there in the first place. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 11:13, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Veronica Mars format

 * Hi, Jeff. I have edited Veronica Mars to link to a format page which has characters and links to Firefly (TV series)/Format, as well as reformatting the article correctly. I would appreciate it if you would take a look, as the second show to use those guidelines. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:49, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Looks great! I fixed a few remaining stage-direction format differences to use the [text] format. Only difference I see now is that VM still has what I would call context lines (complete sentences separate from dialog lines) embedded as stage directions, but there's no clear division between the two. (That's another reason I specify whole sentences for context lines. If it's a complete sentence, I think it shouldn't be embedded because it distracts too much from the quote itself. But that's just my opinion.) It's pretty obvious from your Veronica Mars/Format just how your two-part link scheme could work as a general system, with most of the stuff in Firefly (TV series)/Format going into a page hanging off Templates or equivalent. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:22, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not entirely sure what qualifies as "stage directions" and what qualifies as "context" -- there are several examples on the verge (like "clasping his hands and looking at the heavens", or "holding the camera"). Thanks for your format fixes! ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 13:34, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * I call a "context line" something that provides a necessary setting or description of action without which some of the dialog makes little sense. (Example: "Wash is playing with plastic dinosaurs.") I call "stage directions" the quick notes embedded in the dialog lines themselves, which are meant to give a necessary hint of how the dialog is meant to be interpreted, when the words alone are ambiguous. (Example: "Mal: Right. [sad look] We win.".)

 * When one is transcribing dialog, one has a tendency to include many stage directions and contextual data that have no direct impact on the quoted dialog, even though they may be a major part of the interest in a scene. The thing to remember always is that Wikiquote is a text-based quote database. We can't adequately describe visual or aural events, so if the quote is mostly interesting because of these auxiliary elements, then perhaps it shouldn't be listed here. In the case of something like "clasping his hands and looking at the heavens", I would ask myself if someone who isn't watching the scene needs to know all that information, and if it can't at least be trimmed to a word or two. Ultimately, there are no hard and fast rules, so we can only use our best judgment, and it will likely vary between individuals. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 15:32, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for creating pages for John Clare, Yusuf Islam, and Emma Lazarus. I'd had enough time to gather a bit of material for all of these, and to propose expressions by them for the Quote of the day, but had not had enough time to format much of the material into proper pages for each. Today probably has been the one day where I have had least amount of time to check in here since I became a sysop in early 2004, and haven't had much time to do much more than roll back a bit of vandalism. ~ Kalki 22:36, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Signing VfD closures
Could you please sign when you close a VfD? Since VfD closure is a potential point of controversy, it's important to make clear who does the closure. (Of course, it's in the history, but signing is the standard mechanism to provide transparency in decision-making.) Thanks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 06:58, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, I just remembered — page histories aren't obvious, either, because the archiving of a VfD entry into WQ:VFDA may be done by someone else, leaving no trace of the vote closer in VFDA. This is an issue whenever votes are closed by one sysop but moved by a different editor (as I'm about to do for some current VfD entries). I'm afraid your commendable conscientiousness in processing VfDs is beginning to bite you. This is a major reason why I'm trying to discourage spreading our sysop work across too many issues. There just aren't enough of us to handle all the problems; we need to make sure that the basic ones are consistently addressed. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:08, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, and as long as I'm already being an irritant ☺, could you consider using a closure time that allows "rounding up" a bunch of entries? Since votes don't have to be exactly 2 weeks long, setting an advance "rendezvous" (like 23:00 when you start hunting for deletion candidates around 12:00) allows vote closers to set a reminder for that rendezvous time, rather than periodically check throughout the day to do the next closure. It's hardly crucial, because a vote closer could always set their own rendezvous at the end of a spate of votes, but this would reduce the window for post-closure voting while making block closures easier. Just a thought. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:09, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * As the newest admin here, I appreciate the feedback! Sorry for all the goofs :( I'll try and do better. I have added language to that effect to the documentation. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 09:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Wikiquote VfD is unfortunately a rather complicated process, and you're coming in after several months of process discussions. If you haven't already, check out some of the old discussions at WQt:VFD and WQt:VFDA; you'll find that most acknowledge the current system is not viable for the long term. At some point, we'll have to make more changes to reduce the load on the sysops, but we also don't want to increase it on editors. Thanks for updating the instructions! ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:10, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

Format question for MosheZadka and JeffQ
I am admittedly a new contributor here (I'm enjoying myself immensely by the way), and I have a question for you (and for JeffQ as well). I've gotten conflicting direction between the two of you regarding formatting of dialogue. When I first started, I copied what someone else had done and included the hr line breaks between pieces of dialogue (and which I see you've added to my recent Million Dollar Baby input). I liked the look as well, but was told by JeffQ that this style is discouraged here and that I should use the format specified in the templates. As a result, I went back and changed the entries I had already made. I definitely don't take offense to criticism (I want to ensure that I follow the proper way to do things), but I'm curious which way is correct. I'm assuming that both of you are admins here, but there seems to be some inconsistency. Thanks in advance for the help (and could you also let JeffQ know about my request). UDScott 16:20, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

Million Dollar Baby vote

 * Hi, Jeff! I was wondering if you would not mind changing your vote on Million Dollar Baby. Many quotes from it, as you know, have been added. I know your original vote was conditional, but it is probably best if you change it just to avoid sysops looking like they play favorites. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:22, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I didn't notice that quotes had been added. I realize now that UDScott had mentioned adding dialog to it in a separate conversation, but hadn't recalled that it was on VfD for lacking quotes. I'm afraid I don't always connect all these separate activities in my head, especially when I've been distracted by major issues elsewhere. Thanks for calling this to my attention. I have changed my vote as promised. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:32, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

 * By the way, you don't necessarily have to get enough people to change their votes for an article to be kept. If it has been substantially improved, the vote-closing sysop can make a judgment call that the justifications for its original nomination have been removed by subsequent edits. (See Deletion policy, 2nd paragraph.) This is even easier when the Delete votes provide specific reasons (like Aphaia and I did) for choosing deletion, as it is logical to infer that the objections have been dealt with. That's why I usually include a note about "substantial improvement", if appropriate, when I close votes. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Dinosaur Comics
"It is pretty awesome to see another Dinosaur Comics fan! woooo! ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 20:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)" Seriously!

Also, thanks for the welcome. Thanks. For it. The welcome. From what little I can tell from the little I've been around wikiquote, you really make an effort to reach out to new users and whatnot. Also, thank you for reminding me to sign on talk pages. AnotherLoophole 05:34, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

User images in Commons

 * I have recently updated my own picture, just to be cool like everyone :) However, seeing Aphaia's note on VfD, I went ahead and uploaded my picture to commons. Since we are thinking of disallowing pictures here, I hope you will not think it is too rude of me suggest that perhaps uploading your "Jeff as dimension" picture (under the GFDL anyway) to commons and using it from there. I am reviewing the list of pictures now trying to figure out if there's anything we are going to need. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 08:42, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Not rude at all. I've been thinking about that myself. My concern at the moment is that Commons' stated goals can be interpreted to imply a disinterest in user photos (personal collections), which motivated my question in WQ:VFD. But I haven't taken the next logical step and asked about it at Commons:Village pump. I'd prefer to wait until we get an official position from them before we start encouraging people to move any images outside the main articlespace. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:31, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

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Talk:Klingon proverbs

Some information that might complete this article:

Note: I found a number of references on Google to the expression, "Today is a good day to die" attributed to Native American cultures in general, and to the Lakota/Sioux in particular"  That should indicate a good direction of research for a more definitive source for this quote.

Also, see Wikipedia quotations section of the article on "Revenge" "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge#Quotations_on_Revenge" which contains a very interesting history of the quote, "Revenge is a dish best served cold." This source points out that the adage has become fairly popular, having been noted earliest in the original French Novel Les Liaisons Dangereuses (1782) by Pierre Choderlos de Laclos; that it appears in many different cultures; and that it appears in more recent productions such as Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan, Kill Bill, The Sopranoes. I doesn't mention, however, where I recently encountered it, in the Denzel Washington Movie, Man on Fire.

 * I have reverted the inappropriately personal edit and added 64.30.120.30's research to the article. It seems likely that at least one of the other proverbs didn't originate with Star Trek as well. It would be completely appropriate to cite likely origins with publication or web links if available, but the result should read like a quotation encyclopedia entry, not a talk page. Anyone interested in chasing down the others for verification? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 19:13, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

 * As the article for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge#Quotations_on_Revenge gives alternate origins for "Revenge is a dish best served cold," and, further, the article for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Liaisons_Dangereuses itself says the phrase regarding revenge "does not actually occur in the original novel," I recommend that said reference in this article be removed as spurious. In addition, I recommend removing "original" from "original Klingon" here as it is revisionist. Mfryc 05:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Merge from Klingon Proverbs
Attached is the edit history:

* (cur) (last) 12:42, 7 August 2005 MosheZadka (merge -> Klingon proverbs) * (cur) (last) 13:43, 17 July 2005 207.69.137.203 (→A-Z) * (cur) (last) 13:51, 7 July 2005 MosheZadka m (+cat) * (cur) (last) 12:41, 8 May 2005 Aphaia (→A-Z - ) * (cur) (last) 16:39, 13 September 2004 144.134.175.208 * (cur) (last) 16:33, 13 September 2004 144.134.175.208 * (cur) (last) 16:06, 13 September 2004 144.134.175.208 ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 07:17, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

Merge with Star Trek
I have removed the merge tag (to Star Trek) that CALQL8 added to this article, but since the idea certainly has merit, I felt I should add my justification for not doing this. The most significant problem I see is that these "proverbs" may come from many different Star Trek instances — at least 3 of the 6 TV series, perhaps 3 of the 10 films, and who knows how many books and other media. I'm not crazy about adding a "Klingon proverbs" section to the articles for each instance that includes one, and I can see some utility in collecting them in one place. As long as it's made clear that (A) these are from a fictional group, and (B) that the supposed "proverbs" are often based on real-world proverbs (which should be cited and sourced whenever possible), I have no problem with this article. I invite contrary opinions and general discussion. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:43, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I do see your point, Jeff Q, but how many of these articles could be created? The organization of most quotes is under the articles for the series and movies.  Outside of that, there are currently 3 other articles (that I know of) relating to just Star Trek: Jean-Luc Picard, Vulcan proverbs, and Klingon proverbs.  This means that many quotes in these 3 articles have overlaps that would be placed in multiple articles.  Right now, these 3 articles seem to be outliers to me.  Should there be an article for each major character in Star Trek?  Should there be an article for each alien race?  Only a few of these quotes are repeated over multiple series.  It seams to me that maybe we should add a section or sections to the main Star Trek article, such as "Frequent Quotes," or "Klingon Proverbs."  The 2 proverb articles are stubs anyway, and it is not uncommon for an article to have multiple sections in such a manner.  --  CALQL8 01:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Transliteration?
The word is misused here. From "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transliteration: Transliteration is the practice of transcribing a word or text written in one writing system into another writing system or system of rules for such practice. Thus, writing systems being in question, the expressions here of Klingon (as in the first example: bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay') are transliterations. Mfryc 05:21, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

 * This actually really bothered me. As there is no objection - and truly, there could not be any reasonable objection - I'm changing it to "Literal translation". AudiblySilenced 03:03, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism
"At least I have chicken" is from the oft-repeated meme of Leroy Jenkins. I'll leave it to you guys to remove.The Accountless Avenger

Slightly less concrete source cited, but still pretty good :D
"When the wolf ravages the sheep, you do NOT solve the problem by removing the teeth of the loyal watchdog." KLINGON Proverb on the Right to Keep/Bear Arms.

Translation? OK:

 * "wolf" = Crazed shooter.

 * "sheep" = Innocent victims.

 * "removing the teeth" = Depriving one of their right to keep/bear arms (or outlawing guns).

 * "loyal watchdog" = Law-abiding citizen.

Get it? If not: Understand the KLINGON battle of survival! And re-read the proverb: When guns are outlawed, then only outlaws will have guns.

Word.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=napHYyqgzjk

Source: https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekPhase2/posts/416118128464554

71.101.33.73 09:29, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

 * If it were a Klingon proverb, at the least the animals mentioned would not be from Earth (wolf, sheep, dog). It's been long established that Klingons have different animals (e.g. cob'lat, puris, grint hound — which might be suitable substitutes, respectively, for your proverb). —.Raven (talk) 12:58, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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Roald Dahl

Roald Dahl (13 September 1916 – 23 November 1990) was a British novelist, short-story writer, poet, and screenwriter, known as a writer for both children and adults. A wartime fighter pilot of Norwegian descent, his writing career began in 1942 when a story about his experiences in World War II was first published. In 2008, The Times of London placed Dahl 16th on its list of "The 50 greatest British writers since 1945". His short stories are known for their unexpected endings, while his children's books (which include James and the Giant Peach and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory) are often examples of unsentimental, dark humour.

Quotes

 * Must Israel, like Germany, be brought to her knees before she learns how to behave in this world?
 * Never before in the history of man has a race of people switched rapidly from being much pitied victims to barbarous murderers. Never before has a race of people generated so much sympathy around the world and then, in the space of a lifetime, succeeded in turning that sympathy into hatred and revulsion.
 * [Closing comments] Now is the time for the Jews of the world to follow the example of the Germans and become anti-Israeli. But do they have the conscience? And do they, I wonder, have the guts?
 * "Not a chivalrous affair" Literary Review (August 1983), as cited in Michael Coren "From the NS archive: Tale of the unexpected" New Statesman (26 August 1983, republished 8 October 2021)
 * From a review of God Cried by Tony Clifton and Caroline Leroy (Quartet, 1983), an account of the 1982 war between Israel and Lebanon.

 * [M]akes one wonder in the end what sort of people these Israelis are. It is like the good old Hitler and Himmler times all over again.
 * From the Literary Review article of August 1983, as cited by Anna Steinman in "Roald Dahl: Proudly antisemitic" The Jewish Chronicle (15 September 2011)

 * [Responding to criticism as to how he ended his Literary Review article] Perhaps I shouldn't have said that, but it came from my wartime experience [in the RAF], we saw almost none of them in the armed forces then. I mean if you and I were in a line moving towards what we knew were gas chambers I’d rather have a go at taking one of the guards with me; but they were always submissive.
 * This I did not dare to say, but there is a trait in the Jewish character that does provoke animosity, maybe it's a kind of lack of generosity towards non-Jews. I mean Hitler, I mean there’s always a reason why anti-anything crops up anywhere; even a stinker like Hitler didn't just pick on them for no reason...
 * From an interview by Michael Coren "From the NS archive: Tale of the unexpected" New Statesman (26 August 1983, republished 8 October 2021)
 * Coren revisited this interview in October 2021 (see below), and objected to Dahl's ignorance about Jews in the armed forces

 * A person is a fool to become a writer. His only compensation is absolute freedom. He has no master except his own soul and that, I am sure, is why he does it.
 * "Goodbye school" in Boy: Tales of Childhood (1984)
 * It was all this, I think, that made me begin to have doubts about religion and even about God. If this person, I kept telling myself, was one of God’s chosen salesmen on earth, then there must be something very wrong about the whole business.
 * "The Headmaster" in Boy: Tales of Childhood (1984)

 * I find that the only way to make my characters really interesting is to exaggerate all their good or bad qualities and so if a person is nasty or bad or cruel, you make them very nasty and very bad and very cruel. And if they're ugly, you make them extremely ugly. That I think is fun and makes an impact.
 * From Todd McCormack The Author's Eye (1988 documentary on Dahl) cited in Donald Sturrock Storyteller: The Authorised Biography of Roald Dahl New York: Simon & Schuster, 2010, p. 512

 * It began in 1982 when the Israelis invaded Lebanon. They killed 22,000 civilians when they bombed Beirut. It was very much hushed up in the newspapers because they are primarily Jewish-owned. I’m certainly anti-Israeli and I’ve become anti-Semitic in as much as that you get a Jewish person in another country like England strongly supporting Zionism. I think they should see both sides. It’s the same old thing: we all know about Jews and the rest of it. There aren’t any non-Jewish publishers anywhere, they control the media – jolly clever thing to do – that’s why the president of the United States has to sell all this stuff to Israel ...
 * Interview with Bryan Appleyard in "Roald and the promiscuous girl" The Independent (21 March 1990), p. 15. Quoted in The Guardian (6 November 2018).

 * You know, I'm not frightened. It's just that I will miss you all so much.
 * Dahl's second-to-last words, hoping they will be profound
 * Oh, f**k!
 * Dahl's last words, after being injected with morphine to help him die more easily.
 * As quoted in Storyteller: The Authorized Biography of Roald Dahl (2011) by Donald Sturrock, p.561

Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (1964)

 * "There's enough chocolate in there to fill every bathtub in the entire country! And all the swimming pools as well!"
 * Ch. 15, "The Chocolate Room"

Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (1972)

 * All page numbers are from the paperback edition, published by Puffin Books in 2007 ISBN 978-0-14-241032-5, 37th printing

 * “We must hurry!” said Mr. Wonka. “We have so much time and so little to do! No! Wait! Strike that! Reverse it!”
 * Chapter 1, "Mr. Wonka Goes Too Far" (p. 3)

 * "It is very difficult to phone people in China, Mr. President," said the Postmaster General. "The country is so full of Wings and Wongs, every time you wing you get the wong number."
 * Chapter 4, "The President" (p. 30)

 * “Hooray!” said the Chief of the Army. “Let's blow everyone up! Bang-bang! Bang-bang!”
 * Chapter 4, "The President" (p. 31)

 * “It soon began to dawn on me He wasn’t very bright, Because when he was twenty-three He couldn’t read or write. ‘What shall we do?’ his parents sob. ‘The boy has got the vapors! He couldn’t even get a job Delivering the papers!’  ‘Ah-ha,’ I said, ‘this little clot Could be a politician.’ ‘Nanny,’ he cried, ‘Oh Nanny, what A super proposition!’  ‘Okay,’ I said, ‘let’s learn and note The art of politics. Let’s teach you how to miss the boat And how to drop some bricks, And how to win the people’s vote And lots of other tricks.  Let’s learn to make a speech a day Upon the T.V. screen, In which you never never say Exactly what you mean. And most important, by the way, Is not to let your teeth decay, And keep your fingers clean.’  And now that I am eighty-nine, It’s too late to repent. The fault was mine the little swine Became the President.”
 * Chapter 9, "Gobbled Up" (pp. 63-65)

 * “I’m afraid the camera got smashed against the side of the Space Hotel, Mr. President,” Shuckworth replied. The President said a very rude word into the microphone and ten million children across the nation began repeating it gleefully and got smacked by their parents.
 * Chapter 9, "Gobbled Up" (p. 66)

 * "A little nonsense now and then, is cherished by the wisest men.”
 * Chapter 12, "Back to The Chocolate Factory" (p. 88)
 * Not original to this work, the proverb dates from at least the 18th century.

Danny, the Champion of the World (1975)

 * Grown-ups are quirky creatures, full of quirks and secrets.

 * A Message to Children Who Have Read This Book - When you grow up and have children of your own, do please remember something important: a stodgy parent is no fun at all. What a child wants and deserves is a parent who is SPARKY.

My Uncle Oswald (1979)

 * "I began to realize how important it was to be an enthusiast in life. If you are interested in something, no matter what it is, go at it full speed ahead. Embrace it with both arms, hug it, love it and above all become passionate about it. Lukewarm is no good. Hot is no good, either. White hot and passionate is the only thing to be."

The BFG (1982)

 * "The matter with human beans," the BFG went on, "is that they is absolutely refusing to believe in anything unless they is actually seeing it right in front of their own schnozzles."

 * "Dreams is very mystical things," the BFG said. "Human beans is not understanding them at all. Not even their brainiest professors is understanding them."
 * "Cool Dreams"

 * Two rights don't equal a left.

 * "Ah, but they is not killing their own kind," the BFG said. "Human beans is the only animals that is killing their own kind."

The Witches (1983)

 * It doesn't matter who you are or what you look like so long as somebody loves you.
 * "The Heart of a Mouse"

The Minpins (1991)

 * Little Billy’s mother was always telling him exactly what he was allowed to do and what he was not allowed to do. All the things he was allowed to do were boring. All the things he was not allowed to do were exciting. One of the things he NEVER NEVER was allowed to do, the most exciting of them all, was to go out through the garden gate all by himself and explore the world beyond.
 * And above all, watch with glittering eyes the whole world around you because the greatest secrets are always hidden in the most unlikely places. Those who don't believe in magic will never find it.

Misattributed

 * My candle burns at both ends; It will not last the night; But, ah, my foes, and, oh, my friends — It gives a lovely light.
 * Edna St. Vincent Millay, in "First Fig" from A Few Figs from Thistles (1920); said to be a motto Roald Dahl lived by.

Quotes about Dahl

 * In alphabetical order by author or source.

But this dissociation is not as neat as Dahl would like to believe. His own childhood traumas and adult misanthropy are all too obviously present in the books — passages from his autobiography read precisely like one of his stories. Life and Dahl's art do walk hand in hand, even if he has no desire or obligation to ponder the fact. The stories are not the detached fantasies he imagines. They are anti-authoritarian tracts. And the truth is that Dahl himself should disapprove of his own books, for all his attitudes are those of a hard authoritarian, disgusted by indiscipline, television and all the other seductions of the modern world.
 * [Initially referring to Dahl's attitude towards Jews.] This raises the question whether this is a man whose fictions should be allowed into our children's minds. But the point is that, as he hides himself away in his hit to play with the slapstick-horrific side of a child's imagination, he also sloughs off the world. Israel, his own life, modern novelists all slip away, leaving him to create in peace and innocence. He says he does not even observe his four grand children for inspiration — it all comes over him in the hut.
 * Bryan Appleyard "Roald and the promiscuous girl", The Independent (21 March 1990), p. 15.
 * From the article containing the 1990 interview.

 * [After his comments to Michael Coren in the 1983 interview cited above] Firmly but not rudely I told him that my father was Jewish, that my grandfather had won all sorts of medals in North Africa and Europe, that Jews fought in enormous numbers in all of the Allied armies, were often over- rather than under-represented, and that this slimy canard of Jewish cowardice was beneath him. At which point he coughed, mumbled something about "sticking together", and then promptly ended the interview.
 * There was never any apology from Dahl, clearly because he thought that there was nothing to be sorry about. The paragraph of contrition on his official website took a very long time to come, and while my interview has been quoted every few years, Dahl’s reputation has hardly been trashed.
 * Michael Coren "Roald Dahl’s anti-Semitism was grotesque. I should know – I saw it first hand" New Statesman (8 October 2021)
 * Published following the acquisition by Netflix of the adaptation rights to Dahl's children's books.

Those prejudiced remarks are incomprehensible to us and stand in marked contrast to the man we knew and to the values at the heart of Roald Dahl's stories, which have positively impacted young people for generations. We hope that, just as he did at his best, at his absolute worst, Roald Dahl can help remind us of the lasting impact of words.
 * The Dahl family and the Roald Dahl Story Company deeply apologise for the lasting and understandable hurt caused by some of Roald Dahl's statements.
 * Statement on the official Roald Dahl website, as cited in "Roald Dahl family sorry for author's anti-Semitic remarks" BBC News (6 December 2020)

 * No matter how you spin it – and at times Donald Sturrock spins quite hard – Roald Dahl was an absolute sod. Crashing through life like a big, bad child he managed to alienate pretty much everyone he ever met with his grandiosity, dishonesty and spite. Tempered by the desire to be very wealthy, he was able to finesse this native nastiness into a series of compelling books for children who loved to see their anarchic inner world caught on paper.
 * From a book review by Kathryn Hughes "Storyteller: The Life of Roald Dahl by Donald Sturrock" The Guardian (11 September 2010)

 * My mother is English, and as she was the one who read to us, my early world was A. A. Milne, Beatrix Potter, Kenneth Grahame, Lewis Carroll and Roald Dahl. None of them thought it necessary to protect children from darkness. On the contrary, they guided their readers right toward it. This gives one an enormous sense of being respected as a child. Not just of being trusted to handle things as they are, but to be accepted as not entirely good. To be recognized as having darkness within oneself, too.
 * Nicole Krauss Interview (2017)

The 2023 "sensitivity readers" controversy
I know why these have been changed. Austen is there so the authorial names aren't all men, and Kipling has been swapped for Steinbeck, as Rudyard is associated with British colonialism. But here’s the problem. Nineteenth century estates, like the ones Austen wrote about, were mainly financed by the slave trade. John Steinbeck has been portrayed as a violent misogynist by his first wife. And Hemingway, who survived the sensitivity edit, was also a misogynist, and a mad trophy-hunter of magnificent wild animals. Oh, and by the way, a writer who describes a central character in The Sun Also Rises, as a "rich Jew" and a "kike". Point being, if you dig deep enough, everyone, especially great writers and artists, is problematic. But in a universe where – sorry to say it - Jews don't count, some problems are, it seems bigger than others. These good progressive people making these edits deleting Kipling and Conrad because of their historically sinful associations are doing so to buff up the legacy of – I’m going to put this in italics - Roald Dahl.
 * In the original text of Matilda, there is a fantasy section where the heroine "goes on olden-day sailing ships with Joseph Conrad. She went to Africa with Ernest Hemingway, and India with Rudyard Kipling." That has now been changed, so that Matilda goes to "nineteenth century estates with Jane Austen. She went to Africa with Ernest Hemingway, and California with John Steinbeck."
 * David Baddiel "Either cancel antisemitic Dahl completely or leave his books alone" The Jewish Chronicle (24 February 2023)

 * When I think back over the most memorable parts of Dahl's work, it’s always the nastiness that lingers. ... The awful married couple at the center of The Twits subject each other to a campaign of relentless psychological harassment. The message of George’s Marvelous Medicine is "Why not brew up all the chemicals you can find in your house and feed the resulting concoction to your grandmother?" This is not an easy fit for an era when peanut packets carry a warning that they contain nuts.
 * A few edits, though, are so contrary to the spirit of Dahl that they feel like a violation. In The Witches, for example, the protagonist's grandmother warns him to watch out for the evil women who rule the world. They are bald, and cover this up with wigs, as well as hiding their claws under gloves. The grandmother used to say: "You can't go round pulling the hair of every lady you meet, even if she is wearing gloves. Just you try it and see what happens." Instead, in the 2022 Puffin edition, she warns the youngster that "there are plenty of other reasons why women might wear wigs and there is certainly nothing wrong with that."
 * Helen Lewis "Roald Dahl Can Never Be Made Nice" The Atlantic (21 February 2023)
 * See Ed Cumming, Abigail Buchanan, Genevieve Holl-Allen and Benedict Smith "The Rewriting of Roald Dahl" The Telegraph (22 February 2023) for an extensive list of the changes

No such tolerance is to be extended, however, by po-faced Puffin. The publisher, for whom Dahl continues to make a fortune, has unleashed "sensitivity readers" – the cultural vandals formerly known as "censors" – on his work. As the Telegraph revealed, hundreds of changes have been made in Dahl's books despite ample evidence that millions of kids have grown up pretty well after being exposed to the trauma of words such as "ladies and gentlemen" (now rendered as "folks". Ugh), "fat", "hag" and "black" (even when it's the colour of a tractor, not a person, bizarrely).
 * Daughter and son became gleeful co-conspirators (and devout readers) of this remarkable writer, a World War II fighter pilot who once, having suffered a fractured skull in a crash, crawled away from the burning wreckage of his aircraft in a hail of machine-gun fire unleashed by the heat. After that, you could surely forgive Dahl a certain impatience with polite, adult society, and a mockingly macabre attitude to life, and death.
 * Allison Pearson "There is a real scandal in children’s books – and it has nothing to do with Roald Dahl" The Telegraph (22 February 2023)

 * Roald Dahl was no angel but this is absurd censorship. Puffin Books and the Dahl estate should be ashamed.
 * Tweet posted by Salman Rushdie, as cited in "Changes to Roald Dahl's classic children's books spark censorship spat" CNN Style (21 February 2023)

 * He was a self confessed antisemite, with pronounced racist leanings, and he joined in the attack on me back in 1989 ... but thanks for telling me off for defending his work from the bowdlerizing Sensitivity Police.
 * Slightly later tweet by Salman Rushdie as cited in "Salman Rushdie attacks Roald Dahl rewrites as ‘absurd censorship’" The Telegraph (19 February 2023)
 * For "the attack on me back in 1989", the Iranian fatwa leading Rushdie to live in safe houses for a decade, see the Satanic Verses controversy.

 * When it comes to our rich and varied literary heritage, the prime minister agrees with the BFG that we shouldn’t gobblefunk around with words. I think it's important that works of literature and works of fiction are preserved and not airbrushed. We have always defended the right to free speech and expression.
 * Official spokesman for UK prime minister Rishi Sunak, as cited in Kevin Rawlinson Mabel Banfield-Nwachi and Sarah Shaffi "Rishi Sunak joins criticism of changes to Roald Dahl books" The Guardian (20 February 2023)

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20,000 Leagues Under the Sea (1954 film)

20000 Leagues Under the Sea is a 1954 film about a ship sent to investigate a wave of mysterious sinkings that encounters the advanced submarine, the Nautilus, commanded by Captain Nemo.
 * Directed by Richard Fleischer. Written by Earl Felton, based on the novel by Jules Verne.

Walt Disney's Mighty, Magnificent, Memorable 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea! (taglines)

Captain Nemo

 * The natives over there are cannibals. They eat liars with the same enthusiasm as they eat honest men.

 * Think of it: On the surface, there is hunger and fear. Men still exercise unjust laws. They fight and tear one another to pieces. A mere few feet beneath the waves, their reign ceases, their evil drowns. Here on the ocean floor is the only independence. Here, I am free. Imagine what would happen if they controlled machines such as this submarine boat. Far better that they think there's a monster and hunt me with harpoons...

 * There is hope for the future. When the world is ready for a new and better life, all this will someday come to pass... in God's good time.

Ned Land

 * [singing] Got a whale of a tale to tell ya, lads, a whale of a tale or two, 'bout the floppin' fish and the girls I've loved on nights like this with the moon above. A whale of a tale and it's all true, I swear by my tattoo. There was Mermaid Minnie; met her down in Madagascar. She would kiss me anytime that I would ask her. Then one evening, her flame of love blew out. Blow me down and pick me up, she swapped me for a trout!

 * There's one thing you ought to know, Professor: Nemo's cracked. I've yet to see the day you can make a deal with a mad dog. So while you're feeding him sugar, I'll be figuring a plan to muzzle him.

Professor Pierre Aronnax

 * A strange twilight world opened up before me, and I felt as the first man to set foot on another planet, an intruder in this mystic garden of the deep.

Dialogue

 * Reporter: We're interested in your opinion of this monster.
 * Professor Arronax: My opinion? Frankly, it's rather low at the moment.

 * Captain Farragut: Look alive there! Get your range and fire, Carson! What's the matter?
 * Carson: She's showing us her heels, sir!
 * Captain Farragut: Well, hit her in the heels, then! Fire!
 * Carson: Aye aye sir! Run her out smartly!

 * Conseil: I demand a fair trial!
 * Captain Nemo: You've had your trial. The sea brought you, the sea shall have you back.
 * Professor Arronax: You cannot do this! This is uncivilized!
 * Captain Nemo: I am not what is called a "civilized man", Professor. I have done with society for reasons that seem good to me. Therefore I do not obey its laws.

 * Professor Aronnax: [Observing the slave island] What is in those sacks they are carrying?
 * Captain Nemo: Nitrates and phosphate for ammunition. The seeds of war. They're loading a full cargo of death. And when that ship takes it home the world will die a little more. I was once one of those pitiful wretches you see down there. Look at it again, Professor, I don't want you to forget what you've seen here today.
 * Professor Aronnax: I've seen enough.
 * Captain Nemo: It's burned everlastingly in my memory.

 * Captain Nemo: [Noticing that Ned is eating with his knife] There's a fork on your left, Mr. Land, or aren't you accustomed to utensils?
 * Ned Land: [mouth full of food] I'm indifferent to 'em.

 * Captain Nemo: You were sent to get food, not treasure! You can't eat pieces of eight!
 * Ned Land: Eat? I can eat any time——
 * Captain Nemo: You place an absurd value on the cheapest of human commodities. Aboard the Nautilus we use such baubles for ballast.
 * [Nemo strolls over and opens a hatch to reveal a walk-in locker full of gold treasure. Ned stares.]
 * Ned Land: Ballast... [walks over and pulls a gilted item from the pile, smiling] ...I sure could lighten this ship!
 * Captain Nemo: [snatching the piece and depositing it back in the closet] The greatest treasures of all, Mister Land, are a sound mind and a full belly. I hope you remember that before stooping to pick up pennies.
 * Ned Land: You've been pickin' them up. And pickin' them up good! '...Ballast'!

 * Captain Nemo: Do you know the meaning of love, professor?
 * Professor Arronax: I believe I do.
 * Captain Nemo: What you fail to understand is the power of hate. It can fill the heart as surely as love can.
 * Professor Arronax: I'm sorry for you. It's a bitter substitute.

 * [After the Nautilus has rammed and sunk a munitions ship, destroying it with all hands]''
 * Captain Nemo: I asked you to leave, Professor.
 * Professor Arronax: You also asked me ashore, to show me man's inhumanity to man. Why? To justify this? You are not only a murderer, you are a hypocrite. The proof lies out there.
 * Captain Nemo: You call that murder? Well, I see murder, too. Not on those drowned faces out there, but on the faces of dead thousands! They are the assassins, the dealers in death. I am the avenger! Is murder a right reserved for that hated nation? They've already taken everything else from me! Everything but my secrets, the secret of my submarine boat and the energy that propels it. They tried! They cast me in a prison, and when they failed... when they failed, they tortured my wife and young son to death.

 * Ned Land: [after Captain Farragut announces that he is ending the search] Cheer up, Professor. You'll forget all about fishing when you see the gals in Saigon.
 * Professor Aronnax: I thought they promised you a bonus if you harpooned this monster, Mr. Land.
 * Ned Land: Knowing full well I couldn't collect it. When I get back, I'm shipping out on the first whaler that'll take me. I won't get rich, but I won't be sitting around picking my teeth with my harpoon.
 * Conseil: Maybe we are lucky. It might have sunk us.
 * Ned Land: You scare me. Be a good loser, Professor. The fish that got away is always the biggest one.
 * Conseil: Ah, what a pity, Professor. I know you had visions of that monster mounted in the National Museum.

 * Captain Nemo: Mr. Land, you saved my life. Why?
 * Ned Land: That's a good question! Well, there's only one thing a fella can do when he's made a mistake as big as this.
 * Conseil: what?
 * Ned Land: Get drunk!

 * Ned Land: [as Vulcania explodes] Sorry I had to wallop you, Professor. But there wasn't time to stop for souvenirs.
 * Professor Aronnax: Perhaps you did mankind a service, Ned.

Taglines

 * Walt Disney's Mighty, Magnificent, Memorable 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea!
 * The mightiest motion picture of them all!

Cast

 * Kirk Douglas - Ned Land
 * James Mason - Captain Nemo
 * Paul Lukas - Professor Pierre Aronnax
 * Peter Lorre - Conseil
 * Robert J. Wilke - Nautilus's First Mate
 * Ted de Corsia - Captain Farragut
 * Carleton Young - John Howard
 * J. M. Kerrigan - Billy
 * Percy Helton - Coach driver
 * Ted Cooper - Abraham Lincoln's First Mate
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Point Pleasant

Point Pleasant (2005) was a Fox television show about a series of supernatural events that begin in a small coastal New Jersey town after the arrival of a mysterious teenage girl who may be the Antichrist, and apparently has the ability to make people and events act on her behalf.

Pilot [1.1]

 * Lucas Boyd: She's the child of darkness, and she's under his protection now. She is his daughter.
 * Kingston Nickson: She's also the daughter of a woman. That means she has a choice.

Human Nature [1.2]

 * Lucas Boyd: [to Christina] You're like Tokyo worrying about the welfare of Godzilla.

 * Jesse: [to Christina] It's crazy. God what are you doing to me.

 * Christina: [to Jesse] I think there's something wrong with me, like really wrong.

 * [reading a file in the church about Christina's mother]
 * Jesse: They said she was pregnant.
 * Christina: And still a virgin.

 * Father Tomas: [to Father David, about the town's prophecy] A young girl comes to Point Pleasant and brings on the end of days.

 * Christina: [to Father Tomas] You know the thing that scares me is when bad things happen, a part of me is glad. I almost like it.

 * Christina: [to Father Tomas] Do you think it is possible for a person to be cursed?

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Christina] It's always the quiet towns where the grusome things happen.

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Kingston] Christina's got the power. She'll get to like it, especially after she spends some time in Point Pleasant.

 * Father Tomas: It's started.

Who's Your Daddy? [1.3]

 * Jesse: Are you hiding from me?
 * Christina: No. [pause] Yes. [they kiss]

 * Lucus Boyd: So how's your love life? Any prospects on the horizon.
 * Amber: How can you have that face and still make me sick to my stomach?

 * Amber: So what you want me to help you buy a house? Don't you already own one?
 * Lucus Boyd: I want you to help me buy the town.

 * Christina: [to Kingston on phone] Daddy tell me what I am. I am all alone with this.

 * Lucus Boyd: Just tell the truth Sarah. The truth will set you free.

 * Christina: Your boat burned down last night.
 * Judy: Look Christina, you looked hot in that sea maiden outfit but not that hot.

 * Amber: What...you want to hurt me again; make it two for two?
 * Ben: I didn't hurt you. You fell down.

 * Amber: I want you to tell the truth. What we have always known and this will all go away.
 * Ben: Go to hell.

 * Father Tomas: Grace can win, it can win in Point Pleasant, it can win in you, I believe it.

The Lonely Hunter [1.4]

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Wes] The saddest thing about what we do is, is how easy it is. I barely lift a finger. You wanna ruin a man? Show him what's really in his heart. The seeds of Destruction, Lust, Insecurity, Violence, Obession. People like to imagine they are seeing deamons, but the real demons, we know better. (Edit)

 * Christina: [on Jesse] There was no vibe. It was vibe-less.

 * Dr. Forrester: [To Christina] There will be others. Others who know who you really are.

 * Christina: Listen to me. That monster, I know what you're talking about. But I fight it.

 * Christina: Stay away from me.
 * Dr. Forrester: I can't.
 * [Christina crashes him into a car]

 * Ben: Someone can see you.
 * Meg: I know, let's give 'em somethin' to talk about.
 * [They start kissing]

Last Dance [1.5]

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Christina] What you don't get is the only real friend you have in this world is me.

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Christina] There's no safe place in this world for people like us.

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Christina] I could do terrible things and feel unburdened.

 * Christina: You did that. You got in my head and made me hurt Paula.
 * Lucus Boyd: Christina, if I could make you do things I would have bought a house not just rent one.

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Paula] If there is something you want that you don't have, seems to me you should just take it.

 * Terry: [to Christina] I just need a freaking break in my life.

 * Paula: [to Christina] You're going to hurt people and I'm going to make sure Jesse and everyone else in this town sees it.

 * Paula: [to Christina] You come on all sweet and innocent, but somehow get what you want.

 * Lucus Boyd: We're here to give these kids a night to remember.

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Amber] I get the feeling our little blast from the past is going to bring out people's true colors.

 * Judy: What do you think when you hear the words "Dance Marathon".
 * Christina: Hide me.

 * Sarah: You know what they say about history?
 * Lucus Boyd: That we're doomed to repeat it.

 * Paula: [to Christina] I'm going to make you wish that you were never washed up here.

 * Lucus Boyd: There's nothing I admire more than a woman whose standards don't include me.

 * Presenter at the Dance: [to Lucas Boyd] Just answer one question: would you want her back, or would you want to get away with it?

Secrets and Lies [1.6]

 * Lucus Boyd: [to Terry] You're a have-not in a town full of 'haves'. You crave your friends acceptance but you still hate them a little because they were born with everything you ever wanted.

 * Judy: [to Jesse] Christina has this crazy pull to her. It's something that makes you like her even if you think you shouldn't.

 * Father Tomas: [to Christina] We'll step up our search for your mother. All the good in you, that's her. If we can find her she might be able to tell us what we need to do.

 * Christina: [to Father Tomas] I'm slipping father. I really need help before I hurt anyone else.

 * Dr. Kendrick: [to Christina] We both know what you are. You'll only bring pain.

 * Logan: Is this what it has come to Sarah? Listening to sappy lectures from a priest who isn't even old enough to shave?

Swimming With Boyd [1.8]

 * Lucas Boyd: You can only have one.

 * Judy: [to Christina] You should try chocolate or alphabetizing.

 * Judy: Let's try to stay on the safe side of scary.

Waking the Dead [1.9]

 * Isabelle: [on tape] Hi daddy, mom, Jude. I'm making you this tape because I'm going to die today. Please know this is what I want... I see what's coming... for all of us. I know what's going to happen and I can't be here. I'm not strong enough. I won't feel any pain, so I hope that brings you some comfort. Please don't be mad at me. I love you.

 * Paula: I was thinking you'd take me out.

 * Terry: I'll spring for some classic grub, like, a place with lots of forks.

Hell Hath No Fury Like a Woman Choked [1.10]

 * Holly: Please, kill me, I really hope you can.

 * Christina: Go ahead, take one more step forward, see if I can make her head explode with my mind. It may not work, but it'd be fun to try.

 * Wes: I hope for your sake you can die, because if you can't, this is going to be hell of a way to spend eternity.

 * Ben: Losing your mind doesn't give you monopoly on missing our daughter, I would love to lose my mind, Meg, but I don't have that luxury, do I?

 * Holly: So, you're Christina, the golden-child.
 * Christina: You know about me?
 * Holly: Well, I'm not in Point Pleasant for the beach.

 * Lucas Boyd: I'm not even sure he really can be killed, he's been dead before.

 * Holly: I grew up here you know, I died here too.
 * Wes: Yeah and done quite a bit of living since then.

 * Judy: [to Christina] Hey, you're falling in love, it's not one of the seven signs of the apocalypse.. Is it?

 * Judy: So have you guys had sex yet, or what?
 * Christina: What!? Where did that come from?
 * Judy: Conversational shock tactic. Takes me out of awkward moments.

 * Lucas Boyd: Bless me Sarah, for I have sinned..and I'm about to sin again.

 * Lucas Boyd: Did you sleep well?
 * Holly: I haven't slept well since you choked me to death 70 years ago.

Missing (aka When the Cat's Away) [1.11]

 * Meg: The thing about invalids is no one really notices us do they? That's why we make the perfect soldiers.

 * Boyd: Welcome to the point.

Cast

 * Elisabeth Harnois - Christina Nickson
 * Grant Show - Lucas Boyd
 * Samuel Page - Jesse Parker
 * Aubrey Dollar - Judy Kramer
 * Dina Meyer - Amber Hargrove
 * Cameron Richardson - Paula Hargrove
 * Brent Weber - Terry Burke
 * Susan Walters - Meg Kramer
 * Richard Burgi - Ben Kramer
 * Clare Carey - Sarah Parker
 * Adam Busch - Wes
 * Alex Carter - Sheriff Logan Parker
 * John Diehl - David Burke
 * Marcus Coloma - Father Tomas

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