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Wikiquote talk:Copyrights

Initial thoughts
I like this. It is clear, and makes sense. I would add a few things (these are random thoughts, not sure how it should be organized): notafish }<';> 08:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Actual authors of thequotes have to be sourced when quoting from a series or film (ie. the script/dialogue writer, not the director)
 * In the same way the arrangement of quotes in Wikiquote can be licensed under the GFDL, other arrangements on other websites may be copyrighted (database rights). Please do not copy/paste quotes from other websites collecting quotes.

 * Script/dialogue writers' input is often changed by directors. I say, give the released details (who were the writers and directors, and cast, which might also influence the dialogue), and let the readers decide who they think they wrote it, rather than needlessly speculate. The policy is also heavily unclear, and certainly goes against established practice here (in general, in community efforts, policy should formalize and clarify current practice rather than mandate a new practice). ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 11:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Which policy is unclear? The one Fastfission proposed? Please do tell me how it is unclear. Cheers. notafish }<';> 12:15, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

 * For example, how many quotes are allowed? In which articles? ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 12:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Nota's second point is fine to me. "Please don't copy other database" is a clear standard. As for first point,  I generally support to have a filmography brief and good enough know the work. In most films screenplay writers are credited as are. On the other hand we think the director (and perhaps second, the producer) play a big role, so I would like to know both names as a raeder. But MosheZ' points are interesting and I would like to hear him further. Aphaia 20:20, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

 * On how many quotes allowed in articles with copyrighted sources, I don't know. I don't know of any real discussion on this on here yet, so I just tried to make it sound as scary as possible. A review of the caselaw listed on that Stanford page makes it look like the number can be dangerously low, but I don't know how representative they are of the total cases of that sort. It's not something for which there is any strong basis for setting a specific number; I have a feeling that it is a "use your judgment" sort of thing. But it needs to be kept in mind. Personally, I think dozen culturally important or representative quotations from a movie or TV series is probably fine. Too many more than that and we start to infringe on whether the copyright holder would be able to publish trivia/quotation books of their own. But that's just my feeling on it, there's no non-arbitrary reason to say "12" versus "14" versus "28" versus "45" etc. Fair use law is based on qualitative, not quantitative, arguments, usually, and so it is impossible to know for sure without actually being sued over it. The general goal of fair use policy around these parts is to always stay in a situation where the copyright holder would have enough doubt about their ability to sue and win that they wouldn't bother suing, of course, so it might be safe to be cautious. --Fastfission 19:02, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

 * Don't group TV shows with movies. There is a major difference between the amount of material in a movie and that in most TV series. Consider that Twin Peaks, one of the currently tagged shows, is at least 10 times the length of a typical movie, so its ~40 quotes are roughly equivalent to citing 4 quotes in a movie. This hardly seems like un-fair use. For the counter-argument of "all that matters is whether the copyright holder may sue", see Running in fear of litigation below. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:44, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Flagging pages for review
I created a template for flagging problematic pages for copyright review. It should be added to talk pages only. It is checkcopyright, and it puts the articles into a category so that they are at least in one place whenever someone decides they want to do something about this. I flagged a few of the aggregious offenders. In general I think that these articles need to be pared down to much smaller sizes -- concentrating only on the genuinely emblematic or quotable quotes -- so that they are fair use compliant. But I figured I would float the idea here first before doing anything myself. --Fastfission 02:38, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I glanced at the articles you tagged, and they seem like fair use to me. A different question is about style, i.e. it's possible that a lot of boring stuff was dumped into an article, and by trimming it and leaving only the "quotable quotes", the article can be improved. However, I didn't see why you think that the articles that you tagged aren't fair use in the legal sense. There were some discussions about copyrights in the village pump here before, in particular with regard to lyrics, raising the issue of who should who has burden of proof. Perhap you could contribute to the discussions on policy here, as it didn't seem like our admins were very eager to mess with the copyrights and fair use issues so far. iddo999 04:10, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure those pages are fair use -- they quote excessively from copyrighted scripts or series in ways which caselaw has ruled against fair use in the past (see the Seinfeld case I linked to on the Copyrights page). But anyway, at the moment I just want to flag these things, so that if some agreed upon guidelines are put in place they can be acted upon one way or another. --Fastfission 15:00, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Also, yes, I haven't been too involved in policy discussions here mostly because I don't spend a lot of time here (most of my editing and copyright work is at Wikipedia -- I'm a participant in Fair use WikiProject Fair use over there, which is a good place to post copyright questions) and I don't see them when they come up. Lyrics are a complete copyright problem here unless they are in the public domain, which is most of the time highly unlikely to be the case (even the song "Happy Birthday to You" is still protected by copyright). The trickiest fair use issue in regards to quotes is the number of them — too many and it starts to both be a "substantial" amount of the work (according to caselaw) and it starts to infringe on the future profits of the copyright holder (they couldn't publish their own quote/trivia book, for example). It's unfortunately not easy to come up with a "safe" number though because of the way fair use legislation works, but it is something which should be thought about seriously. I'd be happy to sit in on any copyright discussions if I knew when they were happening and where. --Fastfission 15:06, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Oh, I assumed that the quantity of fair use quotes should be measured in relative terms (e.g. in the Seinfeld page I assume that it's not more than an average of 1 or 2 quotes per episode), but if it's measured as an absolute number (such as 41), then it's indeed a problem. Could you also offer a comment with regard to the burden of proof issue, i.e. should we assume that something is illegitimate (according to some general guidelines) even though no one has complained, or would it be ok if we stay passive while no one is complaining? Thanks. If you're looking for participants in the fair use wikiproject, then I guess that I and some of the other admins here would be happy to contribute. iddo999 18:25, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

As I mention at Wikiquote talk:Copyrights, flagging an article for review and approval by a select few, whatever their qualifcations, is effectively setting up an editorial board, which is antithetical to the nature of wikis and Wikimedia Foundation projects. This is a bad move, though I agree that we need some review process. The essential problem, I believe, is the same one we have for so many issues at Wikiquote — very few folks who are willing to devote time to such reviews. Wikipedia can count on a pool of dozens or even hundreds of editors to review any particular article; here we're lucky to get more than two or three. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:22, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Further, I note that many of the "editors" are not abiding by fair use case law and actual law as summarised on Wikipedia. Even in the copyright notice for Wikiquotes is stated "anything more than a few lines" that is quoted is copyright violation, which is incorrect. The amount quoted is relevant in relation to the entire work. Quoting "more than a few lines" out of a lengthy tome does not constitute copyright infingement, despite the assertion. Fair use allows that "[A] reviewer may fairly cite largely from the original work..." under certain circumstances. (Folsom v. Marsh, 9 F.Cas. 342 (1841). The problem that I have seen is that "editors" of Wikiquote are randomly and often arbitrarily asserting "standards" that are partial and incorrect. Further, having read many of the backgrounds of these editors, none have a legal degree or any legal grounding, whether they have been made an administrator or not.

Since the Limits on quotations guideline has been developed, it may be appropriate to change the tagging template, as suggested on its talk page, or to adopt a new one. Not only is the new guideline understandable without expert analysis of case law, its purpose is not limited to legal compliance. ~ Ningauble 17:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Running in fear of litigation
Fastfission, who is obviously a conscientious and concerned editor, makes a compelling argument about the need to view quotation samples from the point of view of the copyright holders, requiring the Wikiquote community to plan to avoid lawsuits. But it is impossible to expect our editors (or the Wikimedia Foundation, for that matter) to read the minds of the very different masses of copyright holders. We might feel comfortable quoting as much as we like from David Weber's books, because the entire works are freely distributable as long as they're credited (and presumably not altered or misrepresented), under Baen Publishing's unique practices. But 60 quotes from Seinfeld (1 for every 3 episodes) could easily get us sued, based on that copyright holders documented practices. This puts an impossible burden on Wikiquote editors, and so cannot be made a policy. Also unacceptable is the currently proposed idea that flagged articles be reviewed for acceptability by a legal scholar, which is in complete opposition to wiki practice of no executive editing board.

Standard Wikipedia practice is self-policing of copyright issues, where the community (A) decides whether any specific article violates copyright, and (B) reviews any posted complaints from a copyright holder. Yes, Wikiquote has some different issues than Wikipedia, but Wikipedia always contains copyright violations, and it deems its published practices sufficient to deal with these problems and fend off legal attacks. We are better off using existing Wikipedia practices than trying to invent vague ones of our own.

If we really feel we're running a risk here, and we don't feel the standard practices are sufficient, I would suggest that we pick a number of quotes per hour of material (for movies and TV shows) or per number of pages (for literary works) and make this a clear policy. Any legal challenge would then have to acknowledge that we have an explicit "fair use" policy (better than the governments themselves!) and prove that it is unreasonable, which would also allow us to cite many similar violations (possibly even of respected publications like Bartlett's and Oxford) to demonstrate the relative impact of any low-set threshhold, encouraging the court to see the bigger picture threatened by overzealous litigants.

The reality of modern litigation is that organizations with deep pockets will sue anytime they think they can get something out of it, regardless of the merits of the case. We can cower in fear and trim our compendium to useless bare bones, or we can make it clear that we are concerned about reasonable fair use and establish policies that make it practicable (and not inconsequentially make us less attractive targets). Personally, I refuse to support any policy that dictates a craven acceptance of litigation-happy lawyers' practice of intimidating organizations into avoiding long-standing fair use policies. Not only is it unreasonable, it can't be implemented in any reliable way. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:45, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't currently have the time to write a lengthy response, but I would like to point out the discussion in User talk:Jeffq/2005, where many of these points have already been debated. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 00:30, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Saying, "we don't know, let's not do anything" is not a good legal response. What I am trying to encourage is the development of some sort of guidelines in order to help users avoid copyright violation. I think there is enough caselaw (at least three major cases) which indicate that these sorts of collections of quotations, when they reach a large number, can be very problematic.

 * "Safe harbor" clauses only apply if we honestly believe that we are doing things according to "fair use" -- at the moment, there is no evidence on Wikiquote that anyone has worried about copyright policy whatsoever, and almost everyone I bring it up with seems to actively deny that it applies in any way to this project. Being copyright-savvy is not the same thing as being "cowed" by anyone -- in fact, I think it is far more liberating. Having a coherent policy formulated along the lines of existing policy operates in a pre-emptive matter as well, making it increasingly unlikely that we would ever be sued. (On this issue, see this for more of my thoughts on this).

 * Wikipedia's copyright policies are set up for very different types of subject matter. There is nothing on its pages specific to collections of quotations, which is what Wikiquote is in its entirety. A Wikiquote user would get no guidelines looking at Wikipedia's copyright page except on things which are not relevant to Wikiquote — for example, how fair use applies to images (one cannot upload fair use images here), or how re-writing of other sources can be made into a "safe" practice (Wikiquote does not paraphrase, it quotes). It is not helpful for Wikiquote users to rely on Wikipedia's copyright policy alone. Obviously Wikiquote copyright policy should be done in the same spirit as Wikipedia's, but the different goals of each projects necessitate different guidelines for users.

 * In any event, Wikiquote currently does not use Wikipedia's practices. It does not have a mechanism of easily talking about copyright problems, nor does it have guidelines specific to its different types of content (which Wikipedia does). It does not have copyright flagging mechanisms.

 * I do not advocate copyright paranoia. I advocate copyright awareness. Obviously we cannot protect against truly frivolous lawsuits but such was never what I was attempting anyway. --Fastfission 00:45, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

I understand that you don't want the website to turn into a "script notes" source, but if you're really worried about the big media companies, they can forge a case against practically almost anyone and ruin their life seriously. If anything, the best way to avoid getting into legal trouble is simply to not annoy them and to have good lawyers to fight back if necessary. Intellectual property isn't some special section of the law, and if it conflicts with some other laws or needs, like freedom of expression or the national interest, then the court can override those laws. It has happened several times before too. There's also a saying that ultimately, only lawyers and judges profit from cases.

Relevant caselaw
There are two instances in the caselaw which I think should prick up our ears. The first is relating to quotes and paraphrases from the show Twin Peaks from 1993. The Stanford Copyright and Fair Use website summarizes it as follows:

 * Not a fair use. A company published a book entitled Welcome to Twin Peaks: A Complete Guide to Who's Who and What's What, containing direct quotations and paraphrases from the television show "Twin Peaks" as well as detailed descriptions of plot, character and setting. Important factors: The amount of the material taken was substantial and the publication adversely affected the potential market for authorized books about the program. (Twin Peaks v. Publications Int'l, Ltd. 996 F.2d 1366 (2d Cir. 1993).)

Now the question of what "substantial" means here is of course problematic. A more concrete number comes from another case five years later, relating to the show Seinfeld, which the Stanford site summarizes as such:

 * Not a fair use. A company published a book of trivia questions about the events and characters of the "Seinfeld" television series. The book included questions based upon events and characters in 84 "Seinfeld" episodes and used actual dialogue from the show in 41 of the book's questions. Important factors: As in the "Twin Peaks" case, the book affected the owner's right to make derivative "Seinfeld" works such as trivia books. ( Castle Rock Entertainment, Inc. v. Carol Publ. Group, 150 F.3d 132 (2d Cir. 1998).)

There are no other cases that I saw on that page which looked relevant to Wikiquote's contents and purposes. I think we should look at these cases in a bit of detail when we get the time (to try and make sure we are within the spirit of them), as well as look for other relevant cases. This is unfortunately the best way we can get an idea of what a good standard would be. However claiming "we don't know how it would be ruled" is an argument for shutting down the project entirely, not for going along without a copyright policy. --Fastfission 00:55, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Both of those cases involve commercial benefit from the infringers, which doesn't apply to Wikiquote. Furthermore, both infringing publications' sole purpose was providing quotes for a particular work, so the substantial excerpting of each work was an egregious example of violation of one copyright holder's rights. Wikiquote is more like a Barlett's than a Welcome to Twin Peaks. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:13, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

The German branch of Wikiquote is a pure copyvio (beside of the PD quotations of authors 70 years dead). In germany we don't have fair use. All collections of copyrighted quotations without the consent of the rights holder are forbidden. This is unfortunatley absolutely clear (German "Bundesgerichtshof" court decision on a handbook of modern quotations Handbuch moderner Zitate). The only chance for the German Wikiquoters is IMHO to make short stories around each single quotation narrating the background, the history of use etc. --172.182.117.172 20:21, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I don't understand what German has to do with Germany :) The server de.wikiquote.org is in Florida, in USA, where fair-use is recognized by (AIUI) constitutional law. German is spoken (AFAIK) in Austria and Switzerland, and possibly in other places, as well as by some Americans who immigrated from Germany. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 20:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

Repeating the server argument does'nt make it better. It is policy of the German Wikipedia to respect German law (read the legal advice Rechtsgutachten http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Rechtsfragen_M%C3%A4rz_2005). Because the German branch is adressing to German speaking people in Germany, Austria, Swiss, a copyright holder is free to choose a court in one of these countries for suing Wikimedia. I wish good luck to the foundation if ignorant people like Moshe are ignoring clear legal facts. --134.130.68.65 16:26, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

 * The German Wikipedia is free to make up its own policy. German Wikiquote is also free to make up its own policy. I am a member of neither of these communities, and honestly I don't care that much. English Wikiquote has a clear fair use policy -- this page is meant to clarify what is fair use. If you have the opinion of a legal professional, please give his name and quote his exact words. If you have a precedent, point to it. If you are just giving your personal opinion, it would be nice if you at least registered and put some sort of identity behind words which are spoken with such self-assurance (if, of course, you are a lawyer, I am sure you can provide evidence of that, such as records from the relevant organization). ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 20:51, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I have linked to a German legal advice. If you cannot understand German - ask some one who is able to do so. You have written bullshit and the fact that I am not registered does'nt change the point. See also --132.230.108.236 21:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Err...what? Last time I checked, Germany has fair use, otherwise a lot of critical studies and reviews wouldn't be possible, and German news websites would suffer. Also that page gave me no information on Germany's laws, it just had some random talks and Happy New Year posts.

Oh, and that legal advice says that exceptions to reusing content exist, like the right to quote.

"Even if third parties have copyrights or other rights to texts and images immaterialgüterrechtliche, yet their use may already be authorized by the law itself. The law provides for certain limits (so-called "barriers") of the far-reaching copyright powers."

AKA Fair Use.

Okay, it's not specifically called fair use, but conditions to reproduce parts of works without the permission of the original creators exist in the law. Also, you could try referring the law book directly rather than relying on some random lawyers' statements. http://www.iuscomp.org/gla/ Search for copyright there, and look up Section 6.

Also read this, it explains more about transformative uses of content in detail in German laws, and you can clearly see that reuse was allowed in some cases: http://www.criticalcopyright.com/Geller-German_FairUse_TRIPs.pdf

One last thing, just because the German Wikipedia follows German law doesn't mean that the German Wikiquote should, and in any case the German Wikiquote is hosted in the US so there's very little reason for it to follow German law. I mean, you're seriously suggesting the equivalent of a Cambodian restaurant in Moscow following Cambodian laws, for no good reason.

Just clarifying the lay-out and general English editing
As an American attorney, and also an English editor and teacher, I can appreciate what Wikiquote is trying to warn of, here. I'm also an enthusiastic quotations-collector, and didn't realize that some were protected,as I don't work in the intellectual property (IP) area. I've noticed, too, that various journalistic sources have begun to indicate, on their online editions, that it is not permissible to quote from any news story, for example. I found this interesting, since, as I recall, there was a difference between paraphrasing and plagiarism, and quoting a source while paraphrasing the substance was a good way to avoid that particular monster. I do think most contributors here have good intentions, although intentionality does not seem to be noted in the test discussed - and I don't have the 'scoop' on that aspect. At any rate, I think I've just cleaned it up so that it's a bit more understandable. Send more legal English my way if you like - I enjoy it. -

Seinfeld case
An anonymous editor at wikipedia:WT:WAF posted another excerpt from the Seinfeld case that provides even more illumination on the kind of problem excessive sampling of data from a fictional work can cause Wikimedia:

 * "Unlike the facts in a phone book, which do not owe their origin to an act of authorship, each ‘fact’ tested by The SAT [Seinfeld Aptitude Test] is in reality fictitious expression created by Seinfeld's authors. The SAT does not quiz such true facts as the identity of the actors in Seinfeld, the number of days it takes to shoot an episode, the biographies of the actors, the location of the Seinfeld set, etc. Rather, The SAT tests whether the reader knows that the character Jerry places a Pez dispenser on Elaine's leg during a piano recital, that Kramer enjoys going to the airport because he's hypnotized by the baggage carousels, and that Jerry, opining on how to identify a virgin, said ‘It's not like spotting a toupee.’ Because these characters and events spring from the imagination of Seinfeld's authors, The SAT plainly copies copyrightable, creative expression." Castle Rock Entertainment v. Carol Publ'g Group, 150 F.3d 132, 139 (2d Cir. 1998)

Food for serious thought. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:39, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term
Please be aware that even if works have entered the public domain in their source countries, those still copyrighted on 1 January 1996 where originated might remain copyrighted in the USA even if they have entered the public domain in their source countries. Please visit American non-acceptance of the rule of the shorter term with a proposed petition as this can cause problems to quote excessive things from works that may be legally copyrighted in the USA.--Jusjih 12:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Actually, it shouldn't pose a problem because we don't want excessive quoting of anything, including public-domain materials. The answer in either situation is to severely reduce the quoted material. If someone wants to push for a large excerpt of a supposedly public-domain document, we usually recommend they go to Wikisource. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 13:45, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 * As I administer English, Multilingual, and Chinese Wikisources, they cannot practically claim fair use in articles, so being supposedly in the public domain is generally unacceptable there. Quotes can claim fair use, but Wikisource cannot.--Jusjih 11:43, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Presentation copyrights
WQ:COPY needs a paragraph on "presentation copyrights" to go with the new MediaWiki:Newarticletext link from the phrase "presentation copyright violation", or the very editors we applaud for reading policy pages will simply shrug their shoulders when they fail to find the implied explanation. WP has no article; if it has something in its own copyright pages, I don't recall the location offhand. It may take a little digging to get sourceable information from the U.S. Copyright Office or a legal website. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

 * I can't recall where I got the phrase "presentation copyright" from. I know I read it somewhere, but Googling the phrase merely yields thousands of Powerpoint presentations with copyright notices. But I have found that the more common term is "compilation copyright", and I'm compiling some references for a section on this topic, starting with:
 * I hope to write up something in the next day or so. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope to write up something in the next day or so. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 22:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Quote for a positive reason for trimming
Every time I weed out material from copyvios, I hear the following in my head:

 * Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. ~ Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

Perhaps we could insert this somewhere into this and other relevant policy pages when we talk about making Wikiquote articles concise and therefore giving them more impact, rather than just harping on avoiding copyvio. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 05:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright chaos
Please see the issues I've raised. Tony1 12:48, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Reports

 * The Sopranos - I tagged it with copyvio. There are WAY, WAY, WAY too many copyrighted quotes that the page is almost 400 kilobytes. Some computers have trouble accessing such huge, huge pages. Discuss here. Brendan Filone 15:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed this tag because I believe it to be a bad-faith edit as part of a widespread sockpuppet battle. (I have also blocked Brendan Filone as a suspected sockpuppet and for arrogating sysop actions — a tactic of sockpuppet Zarbon — by signing my name to block notices Brendan posted.) However, the issue is quite valid, and should be addressed by editors. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I have flagged this article with checkcopyright and intend to trim it down a week from now unless someone beats me to it. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:16, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Fellowship of the Ring, The Two Towers, The Return of the King — I flagged all three of these articles last week and have just posted an announcement on the last that I intend to do some severe trimming in a week if Return is not otherwise edited down in this time. I don't imagine this will be popular, but since these articles have been used as excuses by other copyright violators, I feel we should start with these to avoid showing favoritism. Copyvio doesn't cease to be so just because we really, really like the works. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 04:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The first edition of The Lord of the Rings is out of copyright in the United States thanks to a quirk in U.S. copyright law of the time. Legal publication of a "pirate" first edition by another publisher is why Tolkien prepared the second edition that is the one now published.  I doubt most of these quotes come from only the second edition. 4.152.3.132 17:22, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The_Lord_of_the_Rings disagrees with you. It says that, while Ace Books claimed it not to be protected by US copyright, it was later found otherwise in court. - 71.224.123.149 08:02, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Charles A. Kupchan needs review while I wonder if it is absolutely necessary to quote long paragraphs and the subject has 42900 Ghits but no Wikipedia article.--Jusjih 21:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

New reports

 * Paul Karl Feyerabend - Some quotes seem to exceed the length of quotes. -- Mdd (talk) 00:33, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

 * Bertrand Russell - The section "What Desires Are Politically Important? (1950) contains about 2470 words of the 5708 words original. -- Mdd (talk) 00:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

 * A History of Western Philosophy - This article contains approximately 29.000 words of the 360.000 words original. -- Mdd (talk) 00:37, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

 * The Closing of the American Mind - This article contains 140,301 bytes while the book is 392 pages. -- Mdd (talk) 02:03, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * This article (started here in Allan Bloom) contains 271 quote, with a total of 22.500 words, while the books contains approximately 120 to 150.000 words. -- Mdd (talk) 02:11, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Copyright on foreign sources
The article only discusses American Fair Use legislation. But a lot of Wikiquote articles deal with quotes from foreign sources. Examples: Geert Wilders draws its first quote from De Limburger (a Dutch newspaper) from September 4, 2004. As Geert Wilders is still alive he can claim copyright on his "statement". OK, there is very little creativity in this statement, but then look at the 3rd quote, which has more uniqueness. Fact is that these statements have copyright under Dutch law, and where the US law recognizes "Fair Use" for quotations, the Dutch law has "Citaatrecht". And the Dutch citaatrecht is much more restrictive than Fair Use. It requires a "purpose" for quoting, other than creating a collection of quotes. In the Dutch WQ we have adapted our approach to only list quotes that are already quoted elsewhere (and list at least one of these secondary sources) and link them to a completely description of the primary source (which in most cases is not given in the secondary sources, even if this is mandatory in citaatrecht). W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 21:49, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Our pages are in English, and directed at English speakers. Are they even cognizable under Dutch law? BD2412 T 04:51, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes they are. (according to an expert.) And you also have to deal with English law if an article is about an Englishman. (American AND English law to be exacte.) We have asked to investigate this by the WMF. Graaf Statler (talk) 09:11, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Was Wilder's statement in English? I'm guessing this is not his actual statement, but a translation of it. In any event, the DMCA applies even to claims originating in other countries; Mr. Wilder would need to request that the statement be removed before the WMF would face any liability for this in a U.S. court. As for foreign courts, well, our liability only extends as far as our assets that can be reached in those countries. I am very certain, for example, that we include quotes criticizing religion that would be illegal to host in certain theocratic countries. There is a difference, of course, but not that much of one. BD2412 T 22:48, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
 * May I ask you something? We have asked an expert because we didn't know . Are you an expert on this matter? (I see you are a lawyer) Because mr Wilders should not do first a request, it is copyvio! He can send a bill! And not only he. You are absolutely wrong! This quote is under the Dutch "citaatrecht" AND American law. That is why we informed the WMF. Graaf Statler (talk) 17:20, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

 * There are more pages of this kind on the English Wikiquote, such as Bram van Velde. On one hand, this article does make explicit that the English text is a translation (from Dutch). But the comments hereabove suggest that this is not enough. Anyway it would mean this project will need a big cleanup. De Wikischim (talk) 11:36, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

 * I don't believe there is a copyright violation, and I have nothing to add to what BD2412 said, but I should perhaps point out that in the case of Mr. Wilders, the quotes in question are cited in secondary sources: 1) the newspapers (that quote Wilders in the first place) and 2) this (anti-Wilders) compilation of quotes from where the English translations are taken (which used to be listed under "References", until someone changed the header a month ago). ~ DanielTom (talk) 22:31, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The fact that the quotes are translated and cited in secondary sources doesn't change anything for Wikipedia. The Dutch "Citaatrecht" allows newspapers and other sites to quote the quotes in the context of their own story (as long as they provide proper source info), but does not allow for mere "compilation of quotes" without any context. And actually, if multiple quotes were taken from a compilation site, that compilation site has it's own "auteursrecht" on that compilation in itself (not the underlying quotes) and this is a serious violation. Note that about 10 years ago the French Wikiquote was forced closed because there was substantial violation of this compilation copyright. W\|/haledad (Talk to me) 23:58, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The good thing is, Mr. Wilders tends to repeat himself, so we can actually remove most of those quotes from nl. sources without the article losing much (or any) of his message. With this in mind, I will trim his article in the next few days. ~ DanielTom (talk) 00:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Note mister Whaledad is moderator on Dutch Wikiquote. Note mister Whaledad is an AC member on the Dutch WP and and our AC is investing copivio. With the help of an expert. Not only the article of Wilders has that problem, most of Wikiquote EN is copyvio! Like the French and the Dutch was. You have the same problem with German, French, Greek, etc. quotes. Graaf Statler (talk) 00:46, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You are now falsely extrapolating possible problems from one or two pages, to all other pages, under a faulty principle that has yet to be established. First of all, the pages of foreign authors are only a very small fraction of the total number of pages of English Wikiquote, so frivolously stating that "most of Wikiquote EN is copyvio" only makes you look alarmist and foolish. Also keep in mind that the sources we use for quotes of foreign authors are almost always American/English (not to mention that many, probably most, of said authors have died centuries ago). As far as I know, the WMF has never received any copyright complaint over any of English Wikiquote's pages, ever. Again, if you have concrete examples/pages in mind, we can look into them, but making false generalizations is not very helpful. ~ DanielTom (talk) 01:38, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * How can you be so sure we are wrong? And what about the English law ? The Engish law is not the American.... Are you an expert on this matter if I may ask? And is the fackt that WMF never recieved an complaine a argument? Don't you understand the article of Geert Wilders is only an exemple? Graaf Statler (talk) 08:58, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
 * You have still to establish who this "expert" of yours is. And you're not explaining how foreign laws and American laws interact, or why the former should supercede the latter. 183.83.133.32 13:37, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

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User:Jason Beam

Jason Beam (March 18, 1973 - ) American Contemporary Artist/Illustrator

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 * The highest compliment an artist can receive is that his work served to inspire someone else to do their own.

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Hans Reiser

Hans Reiser (born 19 December 1963) is the owner of Namesys. In 2008 he was convicted of his wife's murder.

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 * Doing GPL work is doing charity work in our current legal and economic framework.
 * Source: Interview with Hans Reiser

 * You're about to experience chaos. [before farting in a police officer's face, while being photographed nude after his arrest]
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Jenny Lewis

Jennifer Diane Lewis (born January 8, 1976) is a singer and songwriter, actress and vocalist of the bands Rilo Kiley and Jenny and Johnny, with boyfriend Johnathan Rice.

Take Offs and Landings (2001)

 * I've had enough of breakdowns and diagrams— Judging from picture books, apparently Heaven is a partly cloudy place.
 * "Don't Deconstruct"

 * I used to think, if I could realise I'd die Then I would be a lot nicer Used to believe in a lot more Now I just see straight ahead That's not to say I don't have good times But as for my days, I spend them waiting...
 * "Science vs. Romance"

 * When you jump up the Earth wants you back.
 * "Plane Crash in C"

The Execution of All Things (2003)

 * I do this thing where I think I'm real sick but I won't go to the doctor to find out about it cause they make you stay real still in a real small space as they chart up your insides and put them on display. They'd see all of it, all of me, all of it; All the good that won't come out of me...
 * "The Good That Won't Come Out"

 * It's all of the good that won't come out of us and how eventually our hands will just turn to dust, if we keep shaking them standing here on this frozen lake.
 * "The Good That Won't Come Out"

 * Then you hang up the phone and feel badly for upsetting things And crawl back into bed to dream of a time When your heart was open wide and you love things just because Like the sick and dying
 * A Better Son/Daughter

 * And sometimes when you're on You're really fucking on And your friends they sing along And they love you But the lows are so extreme That the good seems fucking cheap And it teases you for weeks in its absence
 * A Better Son/Daughter

More Adventurous (2004)

 * There's blood in my mouth Cause I've been biting my tongue all week  I keep on talking trash But I never say anything And the talking leads to touching And the touching leads to sex And then there is no mystery left
 * "Portions for Foxes"

 * And it's bad news, I don't blame you I do the same thing, I get lonely too And you're bad news, my friends tell me to leave you That you're bad news...
 * "Portions for Foxes"

 * I read with every broken heart We should become more adventurous
 * "More Adventurous"

 * I had one friend in high school, recently he hung himself with string, His note said "If livin' is the problem, well that's just baffling." And at the wake I waited around to see my ex-first love, And I barely recognized her but I knew exactly what she was thinkin' of .We sat quietly in the corner, whisperin' close about loss, And I remembered why I loved her and I asked her why I drove her off.
 * "A Man/Me/Then Jim"

 * And you're not happy but you're funny and I'm tripping over my joy. I just keep on gettin up again.
 * "The Absence of God"

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Thanks for the quote you added to Runaways. I have edited it for accuracy and context. If you add more quotes in the future, please note to copy the quote word from word from the comic (you wrote "I want to" instead "I hope I"), and to maintain formatting (bold words which appear bold in the comic) and capitalization (you wrote "i" instead of "I"). Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 23:51, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

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Earth

Earth is the third planet from the Sun and is the largest of the terrestrial planets in the Solar System, in both diameter and mass. Home to myriad species including humans, it is also referred to as "the Earth", "Planet Earth", "Gaia", "Terra", and "the World". For quotes specifically concerning the personification of Earth, oft called Mother Nature or Mother Earth, see Mother Nature. Note that there may invariably arise some justified overlap in the quotes between this page and that.

Quotes

 * Alphabetized by author

 * Don't waste the Earth - It is our Jewel!
 * Buzz Aldrin, 2012, quote from interview video at 1:28, https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=E3W7eVkWSs4

 * The earth is the source and the being of the people, and we are equally the being of the earth. The land is not really a place, separate from ourselves, where we act out the drama of our isolate destinies; the witchery makes us believe that false idea. The earth is not a mere source of survival, distant from the creatures it nurtures and from the spirit that breathes in us, nor is it to be considered an inert resource on which we draw in order to keep our ideological self functioning, whether we perceive that self in sociological or personal terms. We must not conceive of the earth as an ever-dead other that supplies us with a sense of ego identity by virtue of our contrast to its perceived nonbeing.
 * Paula Gunn Allen, Chapter Two

 * We refer to the question: What sort of creature man’s next successor in the supremacy of the earth is likely to be
 * Samuel Butler according to Darwin among the Machines Darwin among the Machines (The Press 13 June 1863 in Christchurch)

 * The Earth is the Mother, I am her Son.
 * Atharva Veda. Mâtâ bhûmih putro aham prthivyâh (12:1:12). quoted in Decolonizing the Hindu Mind (2001) by Koenraad Elst

 * Those who contemplate the beauty of the earth find reserves of strength that will endure as long as life lasts.
 * Rachel Carson The Sense of Wonder (1965)

 * The earth was made so various, that the mind Of desultory man, studious of change And pleased with novelty, might be indulged.
 * William Cowper The Task (1785), Book I, The Sofa Line 506.

 * they witnessed the start of an era of unprecedented global consumption of living resources, the transformation of an earthly paradise 4.6 billion years in the making skimmed for the short-term service of a single insatiable species.
 * Sylvia Earle about her parents and grandparents generations, in Sea Change: A Message of the Oceans (1995)

 * This poor world, the object of so much insane attachment, we are about to leave; it is but misery, vanity, and folly; a phantom, — the very fashion of which "passeth away."
 * François Fénelon, reported in Josiah Hotchkiss Gilbert, Dictionary of Burning Words of Brilliant Writers (1895), p. 206.

 * Облетев Землю в корабле-спутнике, я увидел, как прекрасна наша планета. Люди, будем хранить и преумножать эту красоту, а не разрушать её!
 * Orbiting Earth in the, I saw how beautiful our planet is. People, let us preserve and increase this beauty, not destroy it!
 * Yuri Gagarin, Russian phrase, handwritten and signed after his historic spaceflight, photo of facsimile published in Syny goluboi planety 3rd.edition (1981) by L. Lebedev, A. Romanov, and B/ Luk'ianov; the first edition was translated into English as Sons of the Blue Planet (1973) by L. A. Lebedev

 * The Earth provides enough to satisfy every man's need but not for every man's greed.
 * Mahatma Gandhi, as quoted by Pyarelal Nayyar in Mahatma Gandhi: The Last Phase (Volume 10), page 552 (1958)

 * In the next century, planet earth will don an electronic skin. It will use the Internet as a scaffold to support and transmit its sensations. This skin is already being stitched together. It consists of millions of embedded electronic measuring devices: thermostats, pressure gauges, pollution detectors, cameras, microphones, glucose sensors, EKGs, electroencephalographs. These will probe and monitor cities and endangered species, the atmosphere, our ships, highways and fleets of trucks, our conversations, our bodies — even our dreams.
 * , in "The earth will don an electronic skin" in BusinessWeek (30 August 1999).

 * Times are tough, but never forget the awe and majesty of life on this strange blue planet.
 * Rebecca Helm, in a Twitter post, quoted in Newly discovered 'glitter worms' dance and fight one another underwater (May 14, 2020) by,

 * What have we done to the world, look what we've done What about all the peace that that you pledge your only son? What about flowering fields, is there a time? What about all the dreams that you said were yours and mine? Did you ever stop to notice all the children dead from war? Did you ever stop to notice the crying Earth, the weeping shores?
 * Michael Jackson, "Earth Song" (1995).

 * Knowing that you love the earth changes you, activates you to defend and protect and celebrate. But when you feel that the earth loves you in return, that feeling transforms the relationship from a one-way street into a sacred bond.
 * Robin Wall Kimmerer,

 * Until we can grieve for our planet we cannot love it—grieving is a sign of spiritual health. But it is not enough to weep for our lost landscapes; we have to put our hands in the earth to make ourselves whole again. Even a wounded world is feeding us. Even a wounded world holds us, giving us moments of wonder and joy. I choose joy over despair. Not because I have my head in the sand, but because joy is what the earth gives me daily and I must return the gift.
 * Robin Wall Kimmerer,

 * No matter where I go in the world, although I can't speak any foreign language, I don't feel out of place. I think of the earth as my home. If everyone thought this way, people might notice just how foolish international friction is, and they would put an end to it. We are, after all, at a point where it is almost narrow-minded to think merely in geocentric terms. Human beings have launched satellites into outer space, and yet they still grovel on earth looking at their own feet like wild dogs. What is to become of our planet?
 * Akira Kurosawa Something Like an Autobiography

 * I have very large ideas of the mineral wealth of our Nation. I believe it practically inexhaustible. It abounds all over the western country, from the Rocky Mountains to the Pacific, and its development has scarcely commenced... Immigration, which even the war has not stopped, will land upon our shores hundred of thousands more per year from overcrowded Europe. I intend to point them to the gold and silver that waits for them in the West. Tell the miners from me, that I shall promote their interests to the utmost of my ability; because their prosperity is the prosperity of the Nation, and we shall prove in a very few years that we are indeed the treasury of the world.
 * Abraham Lincoln, message for the miners of the West, delivered verbally to Speaker of the House Schuyler Colfax, who was about to depart on a trip to the West, in the afternoon of April 14, 1865, before Lincoln left for Ford's Theatre. Colfax delivered the message to a large crowd of citizens in Denver, Colorado, May 27, 1865. Reported in Edward Winslow Martin, The Life and Public Services of Schuyler Colfax (1868), p. 187–88.

 * To see the earth as it truly is, small and blue and beautiful in that eternal silence where it floats, is to see ourselves as riders on the earth together, brothers on that bright loveliness in the eternal cold--brothers who know now they are truly brothers.
 * Archibald MacLeish, as quoted in Richard Milhous Nixon's First Inaugural Address (given January 20, 1969). See also: The New Yourk Times, December 25, 1968 quoted in the book "Respectfully Quoted: A Dictionary of Quotations" by James H. Billington, Library of Congress.

 * If we imagined that from now on, animals started emitting a red light every time they suffered, then from space, Earth would no longer be a blue planet, but a red and glowing one.
 * Ole Martin Moen, "The ethics of wild animal suffering" (2016), Etikk I Praksis - Nordic Journal of Applied Ethics, 10(1), 91-104
 * The modern scientific counterpart to belief in God is the belief in the universe as an organism: this disgusts me. This is to make what is quite rare and extremely derivative, the organic, which we perceive only on the surface of the earth, into something essential, universal, and eternal! This is still an anthropomorphizing of nature!
 * Friedrich Nietzsche, KSA 9,11

 * I want people to look at the world and see what’s happening to it and take some action. This planet is so lovable. It is so various and so lovable, including all sorts of parts of the world that I’ve never seen, and I’ve seen more than most people. Just in what your eyes see, and how people live on the earth, it’s amazing, but it’s going to end if we don’t get our leaders to pay attention.
 * Grace Paley Interview with Poets & Writers (2008)

 * And We have certainly established you (mankind) upon the earth and made for you therein ways of livelihood. Little are you grateful.
 * Quran 7:10

 * He said: Go forth -- some of you, the enemies of others. And there is for you in the earth an abode and a provision for a time. He said: Therein shall you live, and therein shall you die, and there from shall you be raised.
 * Quran 7:25-26

 * And the earth - We spread it out and cast therein firmly set mountains and made grow therein (something) of every beautiful kind, Giving insight and a reminder for every servant who turns (to Allah).
 * Quran 50:7 - 50:8

 * And on the earth are signs for the certain (in faith) and in yourselves. Then will you not see?
 * Quran 51:20 - 51:21

 * That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every 'superstar,' every 'supreme leader,' every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there - on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. The Earth is a very small stage in a vast cosmic arena. Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot. Think of the endless cruelties visited by the inhabitants of one corner of this pixel on the scarcely distinguishable inhabitants of some other corner, how frequent their misunderstandings, how eager they are to kill one another, how fervent their hatreds. Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
 * Carl Sagan, “Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space”. New York: Random House. 1994., p.8

 * The surface of the earth is the shore of the cosmic ocean. On this shore we've learned most of what we know. Recently we've waded a little way out, maybe ankle-deep, and the water seems inviting.
 * Carl Sagan,Cosmos: A Personal Voyage (1990 Update) The Shores of the Cosmic Ocean [Episode 1], 03 min 55 sec

 * We’ve done such a rotten job managing our own planet, we should be very careful before trying to manage others.
 * Carl Sagan, in "Watching the World", in Awake! magazine, (8 June 1999).

 * Earth below us drifting, falling. Floating weightless calling, calling home...
 * Peter Schilling, song Major Tom (Coming Home) (1983).

 * The earth, that's nature's mother, is her tomb.
 * William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet (1597), Act II, scene iii.

 * For naught so vile that on the earth doth live, But to the earth some special good doth give.
 * William Shakespeare, Romeo and Juliet (1597), Act II, scene iii.

 * We travel together, passengers on a little space ship, dependent on its vulnerable reserves of air and soil; all committed for our safety to its security and peace; preserved from annihilation only by the care, the work, and, I will say, the love we give our fragile craft. We cannot maintain it half fortunate, half miserable, half confident, half despairing, half slave—to the ancient enemies of man—half free in a liberation of resources undreamed of until this day. No craft, no crew can travel safely with such vast contradictions. On their resolution depends the survival of us all.
 * Adlai Stevenson, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, last major speech, to the Economic and Social Council of the United Nations, Geneva, Switzerland (July 9, 1965); in Albert Roland, Richard Wilson, and Michael Rahill, eds., Adlai Stevenson of the United Nations (1965), p. 224.

 * Simonson, in rubber jacket and similar galoshes, bound with whip-cord over woolen socks (he was a vegetarian and did not use the skin of animals), was also awaiting the departure of the party. He stood near the entrance of the house, writing down in a note-book a thought that occurred to him. “If,” he wrote, “a bacterium were to observe and analyze the nail of a man, it would declare him an inorganic being. Similarly, from an observation of the earth’s surface, we declare it to be inorganic. That is wrong.”
 * Leo Tolstoy, Resurrection (1899), translated by William E. Smith, ch. 83.

 * We are pilgrims, not settlers; this earth is our inn, not our home.
 * John Heyl Vincent, reported in Josiah Hotchkiss Gilbert, Dictionary of Burning Words of Brilliant Writers (1895), p. 206.

should it find a voice and a sense of irony, might now well say of our abuse of it, "Forgive them, Father, They know not what they do." The irony would be that we know what we are doing. When the last living thing has died on account of us, how poetical it would be if Earth could say, in a voice floating up perhaps from the floor of the Grand Canyon, "It is done." People did not like it here.
 * The crucified planet Earth,
 * Kurt Vonnegut, in A Man Without a Country (2005).

 * We are here on Earth to fart around. Don't let anybody tell you any different.
 * Kurt Vonnegut, in A Man Without a Country (2005).

 * As we give thanks for the Earth, will we live in such a way that the Earth can be grateful for us?
 * Robin Wall Kimmerer Interview (2015)

 * The materials of wealth are in the earth, in the seas, and in their natural and unaided productions.
 * Daniel Webster, remarks in the Senate (March 12, 1838); The Writings and Speeches of Daniel Webster (1903), vol. 8, p. 177.

 * The earth, that is sufficient, I do not want the constellations any nearer, I know they are very well where they are, I know they suffice for those who belong to them.
 * Walt Whitman, in "Song of the Open Road (1856), in Leaves of Grass

 * In this broad earth of ours, Amid the measureless grossness and the slag, Enclosed and safe within its central heart, Nestles the seed perfection.
 * Walt Whitman, Song of the Universal, in Leaves of Grass

Bible

 * The Bible on Wikisource.

 * And again, observe ye the days of summer how the sun is above the earth over against it. And you seek shade and shelter by reason of the heat of the sun, and the earth also burns with growing heat, and so you cannot tread on the earth, or on a rock by reason of its heat.
 * '', Chapter 4, translated by Robert Charles, 1917.

King James Version (1611)

 * King James Version on Wikisource.

 * But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
 * David, Book of Psalms 37:11.

 * For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.
 * Book of Isaiah 65:17.

 * Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all. Where is the way where light dwelleth? and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, That thou shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest know the paths to the house thereof?
 * Book of Job 38:18-20.

 * And it came to pass, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, that the ground clave asunder that was under them: And the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed them up, and their houses, and all the men that appertained unto Korah, and all their goods. They, and all that appertained to them, went down alive into the pit, and the earth closed upon them: and they perished from among the congregation.
 *  16:31-33.

New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures (1950)

 * Hope in Jehovah and follow his way,
 * And he will exalt you to take possession of the earth.
 * When the wicked are done away with, you will see it.
 * ר [Resh]
 * David, Book of Psalms 37:34.

 * They will not cause any harm Or any ruin in all my holy mountain, Because the earth will certainly be filled with the knowledge of Jehovah As the waters cover the sea.
 * Book of Isaiah 11:9.

 * He is a lover of righteousness and justice. With the loving-kindness of Jehovah the earth is filled.
 * Book of Psalms 33:5.

 * But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.
 * Book of Revelation 11:18.

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If someone should happen across an actual print page of The Letters of J. R. R. Tolkien, no. 180 perhaps they could replace the wording "Novial, &c &c are dead, far" with some text that makes sense. I hardly think that &c and &c aren't actually some other word, perhaps two other artificial languages?

Response: "&c" is an archaic method of writing "et cetera". There is no mistake. --Mindovamatter 04:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I'm adding the checkcopyright tag below in respect of "Leaf by Niggle", of which we're currently quoting at least 20%. The quotes from "English and Welsh" could do with shortening as well.  I'll deal with this in the next few days and remove the tag. --Antiquary 19:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Misattributions
"A single dream is more powerful than a thousand realities." A Tolkienist article corrects this. This appears to be a modernized, shortened version of a Nathaniel Hawthorne quote: "If his inmost heart could have been laid open, there would have been discovered that dream of undying fame, which, dream as it is, is more powerful than a thousand realities." --Chad Schultz (talk) 07:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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"It is no bad thing to celebrate a simple life." Cheers to whoever reads this. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 06:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Quote: I am a wolf hat follows the sun and I will catch him air day be done Hyrum1811 (talk) 18:31, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

My fatherfather and my veiw on c.s lewis and tolken
J.RR Tolkien is one of me and my fathers hero,s And what I love so much about him is that he said. Greek and Norse mythology points to the real mythology god and Jesus Christ he after his friend c.s lewis his mother died and he quit religon he thought it was just as fake as mythology then he met Tolkien And Tolkien talked to him about his faith he said he had none but Then they talked and Tolkien convinced him to give it a try so they did the inklings were they wrote  all there plays and books and sent personal messages to each other it got posted into a book and that is. And the membered were owing barfeild Charles Williams Hugo dyson warnie lewis Adam fox j.RR Tolkien nevilleclochill c.s lewis Chris Tolkien and others. And if you could respond to me about j..RR Tolkien that would be great Hyrum1811 (talk) 18:28, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

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Ahaha, ripping off the quotes from my English Wikipedia User page.

"Alas, Poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio: a fellow of infinite jest, of most excellent fancy: he hath borne me on his back a thousand times; and now, how abhorred in my imagination it is! my gorge rims at it. Here hung those lips that I have kissed I know not how oft. Where be your gibes now? your gambols? your songs? your flashes of merriment, that were wont to set the table on a roar? Not one now, to mock your own grinning? quite chap-fallen? Now get you to my lady's chamber, and tell her, let her paint an inch thick, to this favour she must come; make her laugh at that."

-Hamlet, Act Five, Sc.1

"....You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked; For they stand together before the face of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together. And when the black thread breaks, the weaver shall look into the whole cloth, and he shall examine the loom also."

-Khalil Gibran, The Prophet

"It is supposed to be the most difficult task for a dancer to leap into a definite posture in such a way that there is not a second when he is grasping after the posture, but by the leap itself he stands fixed in that posture. Perhaps no dancer can do it -- that is what this knight does. Most people live dejectedly in worldly sorrow and joy; they are the ones who sit along the wall and do not join in the dance. The knights of infinity are dancers and possess elevation. They make the movements upward, and fall down again; and this too is no mean pastime, nor ungraceful to behold."

-Soren Aabye Kierkegaard, Fear and Trembling

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