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Talk:History

What is the source for the Twain quote? I've heard it was misattributed. --66.108.42.146 23:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The earliest source I can find for what was an unsourced quote attributed to Twain is not anything by him, and I have noted this in its entry.

 * History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.
 * This is very often attributed to Mark Twain, but the earliest published source yet located is by Joseph Anthony Wittreich in Feminist Milton (1987) where he writes: "History may not repeat itself but it does rhyme, and every gloss by a deconstructionist need not be a loss, pushing us further into an abyss of skepticism and indeterminacy."
 * Thanks for the info on the lack of sourcing of this quote. If any earlier publications of such a remark are found, please note them. ~ Kalki 23:26, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

 * James George Eayrs attributes the quote to Mark Twain as early as 1971 in his book "Diplomacy and its discontents", page 121: "When Mark Twain declared ‘History does not repeat itself, but it rhymes,’ he went about as far as he could go."

 * A verse in John Robert Colombo's poem, “A Said Poem”, published in Neo Poems (1970), reads: “ ‘History never repeats itself but it rhymes,’ said Mark Twain.” In a private communication, Colombo wrote: “Twain's observation -- correction: the observation attributed to Twain -- has been around since the 1960s. There is no source for it with which I am familiar.” —KHirsch 02:44, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Quote Investigator reports his investigation here: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/01/12/history-rhymes/ He or she concludes, ". . . the earliest known evidence of this popular quotation appeared in 1970 [by John Robert Colombo as noted above], but that date is many decades after the death of Mark Twain. Hence there is no substantive support for the Twain ascription. Precursors mentioning history and rhyme were published before 1970, but the statements were not compact and witty."  In the introduction to the 1874 edition of “The Gilded Age: A Tale of To-Day,” which he co-wrote with his neighbor Charles Dudley Warner, Twain did write "History never repeats itself, but the Kaleidoscopic combinations of the pictured present often seem to be constructed out of the broken fragments of antique legends."

Unsourced

 * We spend a great deal of time studying history, which, let's face it, is mostly the history of stupidity.
 * Stephen Hawking

 * Any event, once it has occurred, can be made to appear inevitable by a competent historian.
 * Lee Simonson

 * History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it just screams, "Why don't you listen to me?" and lets fly with a big stick.
 * John W. Campbell Jr

 * History is an angel falling backward into the future.
 * Laurie Anderson

 * History is but the unrolled scroll of prophecy.
 * James A. Garfield

 * History is not a particular branch of knowledge, but a particular mode and method of knowledge in other branches.
 * Lord Acton

 * History is not to be searched for practical lessons, the applicability of which will always be doubtful in view of the inexhaustible novelty of circumstances and combinations of causes, but just this, that the mind acquire a sensitiveness an imaginative range.
 * Pieter Geyl

 * History is the depository of great actions, the witness of what is past, the example and instructor of the present, and monitor to the future.
 * Miguel Cervantes

 * History is the sum total of things that could have been avoided.
 * Konrad Adenauer
 * History is waiting to be made as each new opportunity passes before us.
 * J. William Jennings II

 * History maketh a young man to be old, without either wrinkles or gray hairs,—privileging him with the experience of age, without either the infirmities or inconveniences thereof.
 * Thomas Fuller

 * History teaches everything, even the future.
 * Alphonse de Lamartine

 * It is when the hour of the conflict is over that history comes to a right understanding of the strife, and is ready to exclaim, "Lo, God is here, and we knew him not!"
 * Bancroft

 * The past actually happened. History is what someone took the time to write down.
 * A. Whiteney Brown

 * The happiest times of humanity are the blank pages in the book of history.
 * Leopold von Ranke

 * The history of man is a series of conspiracies to win from nature some advantage without paying for it.
 * Ralph Waldo Emerson

 * The world's history is a divine poem of which the history of every nation is a canto and every man a word. Its strains have been pealing along down the centuries, and though there have been mingled the discords of warring cannon and dying men, yet to the Christian philosopher and historian—the humble listener—there has been a divine melody running through the song which speaks of hope and halcyon days to come.
 * James A. Garfield

 * There is no history worthy of attention but that of a free people; the history of a people subjected to despotism is only a collection of anecdotes.
 * Nicolas Chamfort

 * This I hold to be the chief office of history, to rescue virtuous actions from the oblivion to which a want of records would consign them, and that men should feel a dread of being considered infamous in the opinions of posterity, from their depraved expressions and base actions.
 * Tacitus

 * You cannot possibly understand History without first understanding History's past.
 * Dan Bloomfield

 * Writing history is like drinking an ocean and pissing a cupful.
 * Gustave Flaubert

 * History is always on the move, slowly eroding today’s orthodoxy and making space for yesterday’s heresy.
 * International Baccalaureate

 * I believe that the more you know about the past, the better you are prepared for the future.
 * Theodore Roosevelt

 * It is history that teaches us to hope.
 * Robert E Lee

Stars, Constellation and Signs of Zodiac
Can someone tell more about those things I've listed. I've been trying to find out about Zodiac signs nn I've found that stars are really our minds nn our guide. Imma tell you about my shocked story ≈

Since ii was young ii used to questions myself may questions about LiFe nn my character to play in Planet. ii was totally different from others. Some Questions that were in my mind: i.e who am l ? Am I the real human ? Why ii think more than my mind ? nn ii used to believe that I'm the person who supported to be ? I've got all that stuff in my brain since ii was young. ii didn't ignore it but I've tried to dig in and dig in. There was a day were my mind felt like an alien. That day wasn't just Day to me but I've found what i was looking for 4 all this yrs. That were I knew that ( I'm Aquarius ) but still there's something that don't make sense to me .( In LyF yuu learn until yuu move into another life . ) I still wants answers can anybody help ? I wanna know more about Earth living ?

Contact me on Facebook : ≈ The Vision of Aquarius

I'll like to know more about the life we live as human beings 41.116.17.171 00:02, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

 * You can follow the white rabbit +look into the teachings of vedic astrology, called 'jyotish, esp. the concepts of the 27(originally 28)'nakshatras'(birth stars)and different divisional charts-if you re ready for the red pill, that is, bc the conclusion about life as human beings this leads to is beyond evident and indisputable, but not nearly as fun or cozy. 2001:9E8:6C57:2900:2450:1460:DDBF:64D2 15:33, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

History
History doesn't repeat itself research 175.110.42.114 18:24, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Entourage (TV series)

I'm not a user, but the proper Ari Gold quote is "an action figure with a huge cock."

Other
These quotes need to be sourced by episode. There is a two-quote maximum for each half-hour show.

 * Drama: Back off a little, you're too close!
 * Turtle: We're two cars back. What do you want from me?
 * Drama: Always keep two-fifths of a block between you and your subject.
 * Turtle: Just how many times have you been cheated on Drama?
 * Drama: Too many times Turtle, too many times.

 * Ari: Smoke more Weed Turtle, Seriously, smoke more weed.

 * Ari: Vince, your boy broke out off the "Oompa Loompa" factory and is up to no good.

 * Ari: Let's hug it out, bitch.

 * Ari: Fuck Peter Hill, never heard of him.

 * Ari: [When Eric tells him that James Cameron is directing Aquaman] Fuck you. Where'd you hear that, Friendster?

 * Eric: Could you get laid without Vince? That's the question.
 * Turtle: Do I give a fuck, that's the answer.

 * Vince: [talking to Eric at a Hollywood party] Look at where we are. Did you ever think we'd have this?

 * Johnny Drama: I've been working steady for the past twelve years, minus the last three.

 * Gary Busey: You are a gut maggot with no guts.
 * Ari: You are gonna spin off this planet. I love you! Keep it up!

 * Ari: The next one after "Queens Boulevard" is a studio picture: I'm talking franchise, baby. We'll get you the lunchbox. And an action figure with a huge cock.
 * Vincent: It's definitely tempting.
 * Ari: I love you!

 * Vincent: It's not about the awards. If it's good, I'll do it.

 * Johnny Drama: If you play gay or retarded you get an Oscar. I'd take it in the ass for an Oscar.
 * Turtle: You'd take in the ass for a guest spot on The Hughleys.

 * Turtle: Don't talk to us like we're adopted, bro.

 * [the guys look out towards the Pacific Ocean]
 * Turtle: What direction is that?
 * Johnny Drama: That's east, you idiot.
 * Eric: It's west, idiot.
 * Johnny Drama: [long pause among the guys] Well, I mean, in New York it's east.

 * Ari: [after his Viagra has kicked in, to his angry wife] Come on! I'm like R. Kelly at recess here!

 * Ari: All right, when you talk to Dana, tell her I'm going to take the pictures from Cancun, and start a website called imahollywoodexecutivewhore.com and there will be no password or fee required, and I will take out a full page ad in the LA Times promoting it. Tell her I want a fucking call back.

 * Ari: Gary Busey!
 * Gary Busey: Do I know you?
 * Ari: I'm Ari Gold, I used to represent you!
 * Gary Busey: Oh yeah, I remember you. You are a gut maggot, with no guts!
 * Ari: You are gonna spin off this planet, I love you!
 * Gary Busey: Okay Ari

 * Mrs. Gold: I ask for one hour out of the day for his undivided attention, and I can't even have that.
 * Ari: You can have it if you want to live in Agora fucking hills, and go to group therapy, but if you want a Beverly Hills mansion, and a country club membership, and nine weeks a year in a Tuscan villa, then I'm gonna need to take a call when it comes in at noon on a motherfucking Wednesday.

 * Ari [to Eric]: You know 'The Station Agent,' Eric? Monster hit at Sundance. It's about the midget who lives by the train tracks. Last time I saw him he was in a FedEx commercial. They were overnighting him to London. Sundance is a great festival for little people. You should kill over there.

 * Ari: [Berating an agent who attempted to steal Ari's client] You know what other class I took at Harvard? Business Ethics. I don't steal other people's motherfucking clients. But in your case, I am going to make an exception. I am going to take everyone: your B-level sitcom stars, your reality TV writers. When I'm done with you, you're going to be repping sideshow freaks. You need Jojo, the dog-faced bitchboy? call Josh Weinfuck, the light-weight pen-stealing fuckface. [Takes the agent's mimosa and sips from it] That's awful. [dumps the drink]

 * Lloyd: Ari, swear to me you will never say anything offensive to me about my race or my sexual orientation.
 * Ari: I can't swear to that, but I promise I WILL always apologize after.

 * Ari: [to Eric] I would say hug it out, but I don't want you drawing wood.

 * Ari: You like Gaysian Lloyd? He's cute, right? And he covers two quotas.

 * Mrs. Gold: uh huh...and what's in the gym bag?
 * Ari: A kilo of blow. [Ari laughs nervously] What's with all the fucking questions?
 * Mrs. Gold: [to Eric] He's showing off for you.

 * Sierra: What do you mean you were on Kimmel? Is that like 'X'?
 * Turtle: No, it's a TV show.
 * Porsche: Do you have any X?

 * Ari: There you go, baby -- Men at Work, the land down under...We're gonna get drunk with Russell Crowe, and we're gonna headbutt some goddamn kangaroos.

 * Johnny Drama: Nobody appreciates their girlfriend. Until they get herpes from the next broad. Know what I'm saying?

 * Ari: Fuck the phones, Lloyd! Unless Carmen Electra calls for an emergency titty-fuck, don’t answer!

 * Ari: It's like high school. You can't fuck the prom queen until she finds out her best friend jerked you off underneath the bleachers!

 * Ari: I always knew you liked dick, Babs, but I didn't realize you were a cocksucker!

 * Turtle: Come on E, you know friends are just girls you haven't fucked yet.

 * Turtle: My dad used to say say sell don't smell it.

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User:Jeffq/Near-term

This page provides quick links to pages that I think need attention but haven't the time to fix or tag appropriately.

Potential VfDs

 * A Decalogue of Canons for Observation in Practical Life., A Decalogue of Canons for observation in practical life.: merged into Thomas Jefferson; no one is going to type this in, with periods; search finds TJ article fine already
 * Henry Spencer — notability and quote sourcing questioned in Peter Stibrany VfD
 * King of Fighters electronic game character articles: Iori Yagami, Kyo Kusanagi, Kim Kaphwan, Shermie, Choi Bunge, Yuri Sakazaki, Goro Daimon, King (King of Fighters), Benimaru Nikaido, Joe Higashi, Ryo Sakazaki, Billy Kane, Andy Bogard, Duck King, K', Blue Mary, Orochi (King of Fighters), Shingo Yabuki, Chang Koehan, Choi Bounge, Goenitz, Kasumi Todoh, Lin (King of Fighters), Athena Asamiya, Clark Steel, Ralf Jones, Tizoc (Fatal Fury), Bonne Jenet, Robert Garcia, Rugal Bernstein, Saisyu Kusanagi, Sie Kensou, Geese Howard, King (SNK character), K9999, Chizuru Kagura, Brian Battler, Eiji Kisaragi, Leona Heidern, Zero (King of Fighters)
 * created en masse in Feb-Mar 2006; tweaked by another user in March 2006; no activity since; no sources
 * List of misquotations — old article, useful when created (1st months of WQ), now replaced by misquotations in specific articles
 * Mark Mirabello — quasi-notable author of 3 English books (Amazon rankings 720K, 1.2M, 2.4M); deleted from WP; discuss 1st w/ Blackhood
 * Missionality — not even a word, acc. to MWO & Cambridge; could it be a useful theme under another name?
 * Sins (webcomic) — Sins (webcomic), deleted on Wikipedia
 * Stuyvesant High School — see Votes for deletion archive/Balboa High School (San Francisco) when it's created
 * Template examples — superfluous, out-of-date; only link from Templates
 * Template/default — superfluous, out-of-date; only link from Wikiquote talk:Templates/Archive
 * User:Norman Levitt, User talk:Norman Levitt: edited only a single day (8 Oct 2006) to vandalize, create nonsense, and post long WP tracts that (altho interesting) serve not WQ purpose; username violates WQ:USERNAME "well-known living" name (see Norman Levitt)
 * Potential reviews
 * Votes for deletion/Nick DiPaolo — nominator given veto power
 * Jeff Davidson — possible vanity article
 * Last words in Isaac Asimov's fiction and many others in Category:Fictional last words — seems like an excuse to collect trivia and give away endings rather than provide select, pithy quotes

Urgent maintenance problems

 * WQ:VFDA no longer works well; must change system, preferably toward (not necessarily into) Wikipedia system.
 * Phase 1: Convert WQ:VFDA to WP-like log system.
 * Step 1.1: Implement a WP-like Votes for deletion/Log. Done.
 * Step 1.2: Convert all old archives into new logs. In process.
 * Step 1.3: Update policy and documentation to reflect new system. In process.
 * Step 1.4 (optional): Use this excuse to finish restoring missing links in ancient VFDA headings. In process.
 * Phase 2: Move page titles toward WP structure.
 * NOTE: Should probably be delayed while more urgent WQ:SD update is completed.
 * Step 2.1: Decide whether to retain "Votes for" or change to "Pages for".
 * Rationale: Full WP "XfD" system still probably unwise, but "Votes" gives misleading impression of process.
 * Step 2.2: Move all archived entries to "Wikiquote:[Pages|Votes] for deletion/PAGENAME".
 * Step 2.3: Update policy and documentation to reflect new page names and structures.
 * Phase 3: Switch to WP system of nominate using subpages.
 * Needs more investigation, as WP system has a high learning curve and may take some work and maintenance to ensure it works.
 * NOTE: Should probably be delayed while more urgent WQ:SD update is completed.

 * New Speedy deletions: unresolved issues to raise
 * What should our policy be on notable subject with totally inane and invariably unsourced quotes (common with video games and wrestlers, to name 2 major class offenders)?

 * Guide to layout: includes info (esp. on themes) that encourages bad sourcing

 * Category:Articles needing source cleanup - use source cleanup to collect articles whose sources are not explicit and detailed (i.e., bare links, inaccurate titles, news/TV without dates or pages, etc.); might also want to use to convert excessive use of footnoting to standard source-line format

 * Template:Quoteworthy — use to tag general problem of large numbers of quotes that aren't original or pithy
 * Probably would frequently accompany a checkcopyright tag because this is a very common problem with TV-show articles, where folks paste large tracts of unoriginal dialogue in order to describe scenes and plots instead of to cite excellent, original lines

 * Import w:Template:Fix for general cleanup efforts.
 * Import w:Template:Page number for tagging sources that need page numbers.

Policy

 * Compilation copyright (aka "presentation copyright"; involving "selection and arrangement" with "a minimal degree of creativity")
 * NOTE: Quotes from fictional works, which are entirely creative, are not considered "facts" ineligible for copyright protection, so use of quotes must stay within fair-use guidelines, regardless of selection and arrangement.
 * Copyrightable by selection & accuracy judgment:
 * Tangential:
 * Recipes may be patentable (process), but not copyrightable except for their prose:
 * Copyrightable by selection & accuracy judgment:
 * Tangential:
 * Recipes may be patentable (process), but not copyrightable except for their prose:
 * Tangential:
 * Recipes may be patentable (process), but not copyrightable except for their prose:
 * Tangential:
 * Recipes may be patentable (process), but not copyrightable except for their prose:

 * Need easy to read (and understand) explanation of formatting styles & what's important.
 * Dialog: Components are Quotee, Quote, and Other Stuff; how to & why we separate these
 * Electronic games: Need to come up w/ basic guidelines
 * Copyright
 * Codify & advertise the 3-5-8 rule of thumb?
 * Talk header for errant articles with succinct version, per Koweja?
 * External links
 * What makes an acceptable Wikiquote external link? What do we want from these? How do we translate w:Wikipedia:External links to Wikiquote?
 * Should we just cite references, per Talk:Firefly?
 * Should we allow single-quote articles? We don't have WP's problem w/ permanent stubs (insufficient info) or paper limitations, and quote books do allow these one-hit wonders.
 * Collecting precedents and explanations (many should have earlier instances)
 * Votes for deletion/The Fly II — avoiding IMDb copyvio; sourcing film/TV quotes; achievable policies
 * User talk:66.90.171.187 — no unreleased-film articles
 * Talk:Songs From Family Guy — why not entire songs
 * Votes for deletion/A song is to the ear, like a fragrance to the nose. — why no single-quote articles
 * User talk:69.135.206.147 — always explain removals; don't call non-defacement "vandalism"; AGF, use test templates in order unless evidence of deceptive practices
 * Quoteworthiness
 * "That was Number 5!" example as difference between inherently memorable and memorable only within substantial (missing) context
 * Published third-party use of quote to succinctly express or summarize an idea (e.g., much of Shakespeare; George Carlin's "Nail two things/objects that have never been nailed together before and some schmuck will buy them from you")
 * Quote value vs. sourceability
 * User talk:Gopal1035
 * User talk:Poetlister
 * Sourcing translations — why Wikiquote is different from Wikipedia in editor translations
 * Talk:Ovadia Yosef
 * Theme specificity and relevance
 * Talk:Autodidacticism
 * Presentation copyright
 * Votes for deletion/Benny & Joon
 * Why notability? Why not post personal details of unfamous people?
 * WQ:VP
 * Specific sourcing
 * Talk:Atheism
 * Votes for deletion/Arthur Norman — academic notability threshold; meatpuppets; unclear votes & votes not reflecting changes; failure to address cited problems; opportunity for non-prejudicial recreation
 * WQ:SOURCE — simplified source lines w/ detailed footnotes
 * Talk:Blackadder — 3-5 best quotes per ep; what makes a good/bad quote
 * Talk:Mitt Romney — timeliness vs. timelessness
 * WQ:VP — how best to cite sources; why cite sources; why split into sourced/unsourced; fr:WQ approach; edit summaries
 * User talk:Mmoncur — sourcing to end attribution arguments
 * Talk:Lyrics — "Anonymous" does not mean unsourceable
 * General appeal vs. fan-only comprehension (inside humor): Rebo & Zooty, "The Day of the Dead", Babylon 5
 * Transwiki problems: User talk:Sceptre
 * Dealing with usernames banned on other projects: numbered list in User talk:Zarbon
 * Atomic quotes, one-quote-per-page organization, linkable quotes, random quote selection — how we organize quotes and why

Interproject standardization

 * Move Zorro, The Gay Blade to Zorro, the Gay Blade & fix redirects on both WP & WQ
 * Template — currently redir to Templates, but some WQ-useful loan templates from WP expect PROJECT:Template to explain MediaWiki templates, not Wikiquote article boilerplate
 * unreferenced, fact — untangle & fix preliminary attempts to bring these over from WP
 * Copy over more sophisticated "cite" templates and their supporting templates
 * Templates: Add unofficial but common use of "categories=no" parameter for selective suppression of inclusion in categories (e.g, for help/instruction pages that provide an example of what the template looks like)
 * Copy useful tweaks to project CSS/JS files
 * Table "collapsable" feature

Quote of the day

 * Uplink to Qotd/(month), previous- and next-day links for each month-date article
 * WP-style calendar navigation
 * How to address global problem WP date article errors, often in protected anniversary templates
 * RSS feed for QotD?
 * Should have event dates on month-date pages, just like WP
 * WQ-only links would make clear which people could be used for birth/death/anniversary quotes
 * Would require at least informal periodic synchronization
 * Still need to address WP month-date article errors
 * Might use same idea to list birth/death/anniversary dates for year articles, solving that problem as well
 * Consider Fys's year pages; e.g., Year pages/1921

Articles

 * Uri Geller
 * "Cutlery molester":

 * What's the Matter with Kansas? — possible copyvio

Formatting

 * Templates & subpages are ancient and seriously deficient, especially on sourcing guidelines
 * Poem extension
 *   is implemented as
 * If placed inside  , poem's div is inexplicably treated as an empty element
 * Q: why not implement it as  ? That'd be more flexible.

Miscellany

 * Create list/discussion page for brainstorming & analyzing exactly what the world wants from quotes, and what Wikiquote can and can't provide and why.
 * Consider future possibilities not incompatible with Wikimedia Foundation goals and restrictions.
 * Create Most common Wikiquote faux pas per Policies and guidelines and Welcome, newcomers. We really need this!
 * Stemming the apostrophe plague: find or rewrite concise guideline to stop apostrophe addition to anything that ends in "s", whether for plurals, possessives, contractions, numbers, or acronyms, for both nouns or pronouns).
 * Plural surnames: "Q & A: Making Names Plural…" at GrammarAndMore.com.
 * — used to create Eric Bauman attack page; should this username be blocked?
 * Can templates be used to format poetry & lyrics? (e.g.,
 * Can Semantic MediaWiki project help us with atomic quote collection and display?

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User:Oswald Glinkmeyer

Pages I've contributed
Roger Williams (theologian)
 * Stumbled onto a quote of his, then found that although he was mentioned on the Religious tolerance page, he didn't have a page here. So I made one.  I believe that this is my first new page I've started on any Wikimedia project.

Pages I've worked on
Carol Burnett
 * Needed some style work. Tried to make it match the style guidelines.  It still needs references, I think.

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User talk:86.6.114.152

Thanks for experimenting with Wikiquote. Your test worked, and has now been reverted or removed. Please use Sandbox for any other tests you want to do, since testing in articles will normally be reverted quickly. Please see the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our compendium of quotations. Thanks. — refers to Talk:Main Page edit ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:55, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:4.183.224.41

~ Kalki 04:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:210.11.188.12

Wikiquote exists for the collecting of notable quotations of famous people and famous works. When people are not interested in responsibly contributing to the development of the project incidents of their deliberate vandalism can result in IP addresses being blocked from editing. ~ Kalki 04:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * This user has been blocked for three days for vandalism after a warning. ~ Kalki 02:33, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

 * This user has been blocked for one week for repeat vandalism. ~ Kalki 02:07, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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Helmut Kohl

Helmut Josef Michael Kohl (3 April 1930 – 16 June 2017) was a German statesman and politician of the Christian Democratic Union (CDU) who served as Chancellor of Germany from 1982 to 1998 (of West Germany, 1982–1990; and of reunified Germany, 1990–1998) and as chairman of the CDU from 1973 to 1998. Kohl's 16-year tenure is the longest of any German Chancellor since Otto von Bismarck, and oversaw the end of the Cold War, the German reunification and the creation of the European Union.

Quotes

 * Entscheidend ist, was hinten rauskommt.
 * Translation: The crucial thing is what comes out at the end.
 * In a press conference on August 31, 1984; cited in DER SPIEGEL (September 3, 1984)

 * Die jungen Leute in Deutschland haben kein Problem mit dem Judentum. Ich gehe ja auch manchmal mit meinen beiden Jungs über den jüdischen Friedhof in Oggersheim.
 * Translation: The young people of Germany have no problem with Judaism. I too, with my two sons sometimes walk across the Jewish cemetery in Oggersheim.
 * In Tel Aviv in front of 900 Israelian politicians (January 1983)

 * Die neue Armut ist eine Erfindung des sozialistischen Jet-sets
 * Translation: The new poverty is an invention of the socialist Jet-set.
 * STERN (July 24, 1986)

 * As long as there is a wall, barbed wire and orders to shoot, there can be no talk of normality in Germany.
 * As quoted in "East, West Mark Berlin Wall in Conflicting Ways" (August 14, 1986), The Washington Post

 * The Berlin Wall is perhaps the most visible expression of the moral gulf between free democracy and totalitarian dictatorship.
 * As quoted in "East, West Mark Berlin Wall in Conflicting Ways" (August 14, 1986), The Washington Post

 * Erträge und Kosten müssen im richtigen Verhältnis zueinander stehen.
 * Translation: Revenue and cost have to be in the right relation to each other.
 * In a speech in Düsseldorf in 1986

 * Von deutschem Boden muss in Zukunft immer Frieden ausgehen.
 * Translation: In all future, only peace may come from German soil.
 * Lecture in front of the Frauenkirche (December 19, 1989)

 * I am not the one trying to speed things up. We are being driven.
 * Note: On November 9, 1989, the Berlin Wall fell. The idea of German reunification, often discussed but considered unrealistic, once again became a subject of heated debate. Reunification now appeared inevitable, but scarcely anyone ventured to prophesy how soon it would come. German chancellor Helmut Kohl remarked those words when was accused of pushing unification plans too fast.
 * Awake! magazine, 12 - 22 - 1991; in its article The Dream of European Unity.

 * Durch eine gemeinsame Anstrengung wird es uns gelingen, Mecklenburg-Vorpommern und Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg, Sachsen und Thüringen schon bald wieder in blühende Landschaften zu verwandeln, in denen es sich zu leben und zu arbeiten lohnt.
 * Translation: By a common effort, we will soon succeed in tranforming Mecklenburg-Vorpommern and Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg, Sachsen and Thüringen into blossoming landscapes, where it is worth to live and work.
 * In a television speech about East Germany after the Reunification. (June 1990)

 * Eine erfolgreiche Industrienation, das heißt eine Nation mit Zukunft, lässt sich nicht als kollektiver Freizeitpark organisieren.
 * Translation: A successful industrial nation, meaning a nation with future, can not be organized as a collective holiday resort.
 * In a parliamentary speech (March 1993)

 * Das ist eine klassische journalistische Behauptung. Sie ist zwar richtig, aber sie ist nicht die Wahrheit.
 * Translation: This is a typical journalistic statement: It is correct, but it is not the truth.
 * ARD-Tagesthemen (February 22, 1994)

 * Die Existenzgrundlage unseres Landes geht kaputt, wenn erst die Schleusen für die Ausländer geöffnet sind.
 * Translation: The means of existence of our country will break down, once the watergates are open to the foreigners.
 * Lecture for businessmen from Schwabia (March 1994)

 * Wir werden die Arbeitslosigkeit und die Zahl der in Deutschland lebenden Ausländer um die Hälfte reduzieren.
 * Translation: We will cut in half unemployment and the number of foreigners living in Germany.
 * Taz (June 10, 1998), during the 1982 election campaign

 * Die Visionäre von gestern sind die Realisten von heute.
 * Translation: The visionaries of yesterday are the realists of today.
 * Discussion with his predecessor Helmut Schmidt in 'Die Zeit' (1998)

 * Wir gehen nach Berlin – aber nicht in eine neue Republik.
 * Translation: We will move to Berlin - but not to a new republic.
 * 50 JAHRE DEMOKRATIE DANK AN BONN" (July 06, 1999)

 * Die deutsche Einheit und die europäische Einigung sind zwei Seiten ein und derselben Medaille.
 * Translation: The German Reunification and unification of Europe are two sides of the same coin.
 * In a speech on the 15th party congress of the CDU, in Frankfurt an Main (June 17, 2002)

 * Das ist der schlimmste Präsident seit Hermann Göring.
 * Translation: This is the worst president since Hermann Göring.
 * On President of German Parliament Wolfgang Thierse, according to DER SPIEGEL during lunch with colleagues (August 29, 2002)

 * I knew that I could never win a referendum in Germany. We would have lost a referendum on the introduction of the Euro. That's quite clear. I would have lost and by seven to three…. If a Chancellor is trying to push something through, he must be a man of power. And if he's smart, he knows when the time is ripe. In one case – the Euro – I was like a dictator ... The Euro is a synonym for Europe. Europe, for the first time, has no more war.
 * 2002 interview for the PhD. of Jens Peter Paul, a German journalist

 * We Germans have learned from history. We are a peace-loving, freedom-loving people. For us, love of our native country, love of freedom, and the spirit of being a good neighbor always belong together.
 * As quoted in "Kohl: German chancellor, European statesman" (October 1, 2012), Deutsche Welle

About

 * Once democratised, Communism had become redundant, and the same process affected the very state of East Germany. Currency union with West Germany took effect on 1 July, East Germany came to an end as a separate state on 3 October, and all-German elections followed on 2 December 1990. Thatcher was unhappy about German re-unification, while President Mitterrand of France wanted two democratic Germanys and not the speedy creation of an over mighty Germany. However, in response to the victory of the pro-unification parties in the East German election in March 1990, he proved more accommodating, not least because of a promise from Helmut Kohl, the German Chancellor, that French companies would be allowed to acquire East German state-owned companies in the rapid privatisation that was pushed through. Kohl traded subsequently on his role in securing unification, and this helped him win re-election, as Chancellor of the united Germany, in 1994.
 * Jeremy Black, The Cold War: A Military History (2015)

 * But German reunification was, nonetheless, an unsettling prospect, not just for the Soviet Union but for all Europeans who remembered the record of the last unified German state. This anxiety transcended Cold War divisions: Gorbachev shared it with Jaruzelski, French President François Mitterrand, and even Margaret Thatcher, who warned Bush that "[i]f we are not careful, the Germans will get in peace what Hitler couldn't get in the war." The one prominent European who disagreed was West German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, who surprised everyone by coming out in favor of reunification a few days before the Malta summit. Bush thought he had done so because "he wanted to be sure that Gorbachev and I did not come to our own agreement on Germany's future, as had Stalin and Roosevelt in the closing months of World War II." Kohl, then, was leading, but only barely because the East Germans themselves—having broken through the wall—quickly made it clear that they would accept nothing less than reunification. Hans Modrow, who had replaced Krenz as prime minister, informed Gorbachev at the end of January, 1990, that "[t]he majority of the people in the German Democratic Republic no longer support the idea of two German states." The government and party itself, K.G.B. chief Vladimir Kryuchkov confirmed, were falling apart. Confronted with this information, Gorbachev saw no choice: "German reunification should be regarded as inevitable."
 * John Lewis Gaddis, The Cold War: A New History (2005), p. 250

 * It's been quite a journey this decade, and we held together through some stormy seas. And at the end, together, we are reaching our destination. The fact is, from Grenada to the Washington and Moscow summits, from the recession of '81 to '82, to the expansion that began in late '82 and continues to this day, we've made a difference. The way I see it, there were two great triumphs, two things that I'm proudest of. One is the economic recovery, in which the people of America created—and filled—19 million new jobs. The other is the recovery of our morale. America is respected again in the world and looked to for leadership. Something that happened to me a few years ago reflects some of this. It was back in 1981, and I was attending my first big economic summit, which was held that year in Canada. The meeting place rotates among the member countries. The opening meeting was a formal dinner of the heads of goverment of the seven industrialized nations. Now, I sat there like the new kid in school and listened, and it was all Francois this and Helmut that. They dropped titles and spoke to one another on a first-name basis. Well, at one point I sort of leaned in and said, "My name's Ron." Well, in that same year, we began the actions we felt would ignite an economic comeback—cut taxes and regulation, started to cut spending. And soon the recovery began. Two years later, another economic summit with pretty much the same cast. At the big opening meeting we all got together, and all of a sudden, just for a moment, I saw that everyone was just sitting there looking at me. And then one of them broke the silence. "Tell us about the American miracle," he said.
 * Ronald Reagan, Farewell Address, 11 January 1989

 * Of course, peace might have come to Europe without the Union. Maybe. We will never know. But it would never have been of the same quality. A lasting peace, not a frosty cease-fire. To me, what makes it so special, is reconciliation. In politics as in life, reconciliation is the most difficult thing. It goes beyond forgiving and forgetting, or simply turning the page. To think of what France and Germany had gone through …, and then take this step … Signing a Treaty of Friendship … Each time I hear these words – Freundschaft, Amitié –, I am moved. They are private words, not for treaties between nations. But the will to not let history repeat itself, to do something radically new, was so strong that new words had to be found. For people Europe was a promise, Europe equalled hope. When Konrad Adenauer came to Paris to conclude the Coal and Steel Treaty, in 1951, one evening he found a gift waiting at his hotel. It was a war medal, une Croix de Guerre, that had belonged to a French soldier. His daughter, a young student, had left it with a little note for the Chancellor, as a gesture of reconciliation and hope. I can see many other stirring images before me. Leaders of six States assembled to open a new future, in Rome, città eterna … Willy Brandt kneeling down in Warsaw. The dockers of Gdansk, at the gates of their shipyard. Mitterrand and Kohl hand in hand. Two million people linking Tallinn to Riga to Vilnius in a human chain, in 1989. These moments healed Europe.
 * Herman Van Rompuy, Nobel Peace Prize Lecture of the European Union, 10 December 2012

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Franz Liszt

Franz Liszt (Hungarian: Liszt Ferenc) (October 22, 1811 – July 31, 1886) was a Hungarian virtuoso pianist, organist and composer.

Quotes

 * Brahms' Variations are better than mine, but mine were written before his.
 * As quoted in Arthur Friedheim and Alexander Siloti, Remembering Franz Liszt (1961) p. 138.

 * Sorrowful and great is the artist's destiny.
 * As quoted in Joseph Machlis, The Enjoyment of Music: An Introduction to Perceptive Listening (1963) Page 107.

 * Wasting time is one of the worst faults of the world. Life is so short, every moment is so precious and yet, we live as if life will never end.
 * As quoted in Alan Walker, Franz Liszt : The Virtuoso Years, 1811-1847 (1987) Page 117.

 * When you write the story of two happy lovers, place them on the shores of Lake Como. I do not know a district more manifestly blessed by heaven; I've never seen another where the charms of a life of love would seem more natural [...] and start it with these words: "On the shores of Lake Como."
 * As quoted From the letter to Louis de Ronchaud dated 20 September 1837

 * I carry a deep sadness of the heart which must now and then break out in sound.
 * As quoted in Walker, 1997.

Quotes about Liszt

 * His playing was free, poetic, replete with imaginative shadings, and, at the same time, characterized by noble, artistic repose. And his technique, his virtuosity? I hesitate to speak if it. It suffices to observe that he has not lost it but has rather added to it in clarity and moderation. What a remarkable man! After a life incomparably rich and active, full of excitement, passion, and pleasure, he returns at the age of sixty-two and plays the most difficult music with the ease and strength and freshness of a youth….
 * Eduard Hanslick, Music Criticisms. Translated by Henry Pleasants, Baltimore: Penguin Books Ltd., 1963, p.109-110.

 * Perhaps the greatest source of wonder in Liszt's life was that he composed anything at all, let alone anything of lasting greatness. The man who, from an early age, had crisscrossed Europe as the greatest travelling virtuoso, providing, with the onset of puberty, much material for gossip columns, might have been forgiven for taking the Wildean view, 'My art is my life', and leaving it at that. [...] Exactly how Liszt could have found the time to compose is difficult to imagine.
 * Kenneth Hamilton, Liszt: Sonata in B Minor (1996), Ch. 1 : Introduction

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Talk:United States

By Americans

 * We can have no ’50-50′ allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
 * Theodore Roosevelt.

 * Intellectually I know that America is no better than any other country; emotionally I know she is better than every country.
 * Sinclair Lewis, 1935.

 * It's pathetic. It really is pathetic. It's sad. We're living in the dark ages in America.
 * Sylvester Stallone

 * We do not consider ourselves threatening. Puzzled when vilified, we assume our accusers must be demented.
 * Ronald Steel

It was always accounted a virtue in a man to love his country. With us it is now something more than a virtue. It is a necessity. When an American says that he loves his country, he means not only that he loves the New England hills, the prairies glistening in the sun, the wide and rising plains, the great mountains, and the sea. He means that he loves an inner air, an inner light in which freedom lives and in which a man can draw the breath of self-respect. Men who have offered their lives for their country know that patriotism is not the fear of something; it is the love of something.

 * Ours is the only country deliberately founded on a good idea.
 * John Gunther

 * Patriotism is easy to understand in America; it means looking out for yourself by looking out for your country.
 * Calvin Coolidge

 * This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave.
 * Elmer Davis

 * If you take advantage of everything America has to offer, there's nothing you can't accomplish.
 * Geraldine Ferraro

 * Where liberty dwells, there is my country.
 * Benjamin Franklin

 * We are now in a budding police state formerly known as the U.S. of A.
 * Michael Moore.

 * We are now finally no better than a backwater banana republic.
 * Michael Moore.

 * America, the country where the vast majority of the pathetically stupid, embarrassingly white, and disgustingly rich men live.
 * Michael Moore.

 * Sure I wave the American flag. Do you know a better flag to wave? Sure I love my country with all her faults. I'm not ashamed of that, never have been, never will be.
 * John Wayne

 * I shall know but one country. The ends I aim at shall be my country's, my God's and Truth's. I was born an American; I live an American; I shall die an American.
 * Daniel Webster

By naturalized Americans

 * The trouble with these people is that their cities have never been bombed and their mothers have never been told to shut up.
 * Charles Bukowski

 * America is the land of the uncommon man. It is the land where man is free to develop his genius -- and to get its just rewards.
 * Ayn Rand.

By non-Americans

 * God has a special providence for fools, drunks, and the United States of America.
 * Anonymous proverb, often misattributed to Otto von Bismarck.

 * The American loses no opportunity to acquire wealth. Gain is the subject of all his conversations, and the motive for all his actions. Thus, there is perhaps no civilized nation in the world where there is less generosity in the sentiments, less elevation of soul and of mind, less of those pleasant and glittering illusions that constitute the charm or the consolation of life. Here, everything is weighed, calculated and sacrificed to self-interest.
 * Chevalier de Beaujour

 * The United States is now a country against its own people and against the people of the world. It is anti-democratic.
 * Hugo Chavez

 * America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilisation in between.
 * Georges Clemenceau, also attributed to George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde.

 * America is a mistake, admittedly a gigantic mistake, but a mistake nevertheless.
 * Sigmund Freud.

 * While envisaging the destruction of imperialism, it is necessary to identify its head, which is no other than the United States of America.
 * Che Guevara.

 * America has everything; why should they want us?
 * George Harrison.

 * The essential American soul is hard, isolate, stoic and a killer.
 * D.H. Lawrence

 * The United States of America is a threat to world peace.
 * Nelson Mandela

 * There is no doubt that the United States now feels that they are the only superpower in the world and they can do what they like.
 * Nelson Mandela

 * In this country, more than any other, esteem is based on wealth. Talent is trampled underfoot. How much is this man worth? they ask. Not much? He is despised. One hundred thousand crowns? The knees flex, the incense burns, and the once-bankrupt merchant is revered like a god.
 * the Baron de Montlezun

 * I believe the United States is a truly monstrous force in the world.
 * Harold Pinter

 * The U.S. is really beyond reason now. It is beyond our imagining to know what they are going to do next and what they are prepared to do. There is only one comparison: Nazi Germany.
 * Harold Pinter

 * We have really everything in common with America nowadays, except, of course, language.
 * Oscar Wilde

Critical?
Why are the vast majority of these quotes critical?

 * That's the world you're living in, and the world hates America's foreign policy.

 * Oh please. France funded genocide in Rwanda just a decade ago and I don't see any overly-critical quotes on the French wikiquote page. This is not an outlet for your ideology, however vacuous and myopic it may be. A lot of these quotes hardly even relate to the country in the first place, and some are even duplicates. One quote by Thomas Paine and three by Michael Moore? What an embarrassment.

One word, Communists!*sarcasm*

Really, if that many people hate America for whatever faults it has, know that America is one of the best nations to change and challenge the status quo, and one of the few nations where it needn't come from the barrel of a gun.

I removed

 * "We thank God that our enemies are idiots"
 * Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Surely Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has more enemies than just the United States. I felt that the quote was to general to be in this Article. I think if people want to have one of his quotes on this page, they can find one that is specifically talking about the United States.

I am certain they are not hard to find.

I removed a quote from an not copyrighted (not published) story, authored by a no one mind you.

BALANCE NEEDED!!
This DEFINITELY needs balancing! Almost every quote by non-Americans is a negative one. Okay admittedly many people are alienated and intimidated by the aggressive policies of the current administration, but historically over the last 60 years or so there has usually been about a 2/3 approval of the United States in Europe. Even with the current administration there is still about a 1/3 of the population that approves it in Europe. Therefore there must be many more quotes about the United States from famous people over the years that have not been negative. By the way I am NOT American so I have no reason to bias toward a more favourable view. If you check my IP addess it will show that I am from New Zealand (which is actually quite anti-American relative to other western countries) so I have no reason to propagate a favourable view of the United States.
 * Its not just that, why does Michael Moore, get three quotes to, BENJAMIN FRANKLIN'S one, and correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think Sylvester Stallone's comment is kept in context, because judging by his movies, I would assume he was a patriot. I've heard the comment before, but I believe he was talking about the modern American media, and not neccessarily the nation as a whole.
 * Balanced now. – Illegitimate Barrister, 06:31, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Trimming
So how many quotes are allowed on a country page?(StarWarsFanBoy 20:12, 26 December 2009 (UTC))

Authorship controversy
The quote "America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilisation in between" is attributed here to Georges Clemenceau, also attributed to George Bernard Shaw and Oscar Wilde. Elsewhere other famous personalities are mentioned.

However the first similar reference I could find is from 1887, in French, in "revue britannique", where it seems applied to Spain.

Later, it is applied to Russia in The contemporary theatre, from James Agate, in 1926. One can find a close formulation in 1841, also in French and for Russia, in "Histoire des progrès de la civilisation en Europe depuis l'ère Chrétienne jusqu' au XIXe siècle", by Hippolyle Roux-Ferrand, without however the mention of civilisation.

First references to USA seem to appear in 1932, and are attributed to "a witty Frenchman", possibly a journalist. Unfortunately I can't access to the whole publications on google books and I can't see if the precise attribution is given. Two years later some attribute it to John O'Hara.

There is also a book from Charles Du Bus de Warnaffe published in 1924 which is named De la barbarie à la décadence (from barbarism to decadence), but I don't know what it is about. Skippy le Grand Gourou 08:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm quite interested to read about this, I have seen the quote attributed to almost every witty intellectual of the past hundred years. It makes sense that it saw repeated use... perhaps attributing to (say) Clemenceau is in the same league as attributing the phrase "Brave new world" to Huxley. 203.217.150.69 00:00, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Proposed new layout
The Americans/immigrants/non-Americans balance seems awkward and unsuitable to me. Perhaps it would be preferable to divide the sections up by centuries (18th through 21st)? That way it wouldn't seem so random, and we'd have a sense of chronological flow. --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 17:54, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I fully agree and endorse this - it would be much better to sort the quotes chronologically. And the addition of subsections by periods of time (similar to what we do with some president's pages where we divide the quotes by year - see George W. Bush or Barack Obama) would be nice. Good idea. ~ UDScott (talk) 18:14, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Reversion of some EXTREME alteration of layout and content
I just reverted some MAJOR changes made by. I see NO need for a stripping out of comments of US presidents, nor any need for a separate page of segregated quotes "Presidents of the United States on the United States" which was subsequently created. I believe such breakdown into VERY specialized pages is extremely unwarranted. I have also restored MANY of the images that were removed, though I did not restore some that seemed more recently added, and in an order that seemed somewhat unorganized, in my brief glancing at the them. It might perhaps be useful to re-organize the page — but I do not agree on FILTERING it out in quite so extensive, extreme and sudden a manner as was done without ANY discussion of such an EXTREME changing of CONTENT. I believe that the separation of quotes into "Americans" and "non-Americans" should be rejected, and a simple alphabetical listing of the authors of quotes within alphabetized sections should be done, as is done on MANY theme pages. IF such changes as that are agreed to, within the next month or so, I would go ahead and do it sometime next month. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 05:17, 23 December 2015 (UTC) + tweaks However, creation of new articles that address more specific aspects of quotes are a good thing and those articles should be kept as long as they are not too tedious and pedantic, but, their quotes should also be kept on the main topic's article as well. On that note, I agree that "Presidents of the U.S. on the U.S." seems way too tediously pedantic and probably should be merged into the regular "U.S. President" article instead. That said, I have been pondering dividing the U.S. page into more headers, as UDScott just suggested, since the sub-sections are getting pretty big. Whether those headers would be named by alphabetical ordering by author name or by topic, I have not yet decided upon. I feel having subject-derived headers for a huge topic such as a country would be too POV, so I have been leaning towards alphabetical order by author name, since that seems more neutral and objective in my view. While we're at it, a horizontal table of contents template would probably be a good idea to make. Best regards, – Illegitimate Barrister, 00:18, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I have just reviewed the net effect of the edits which were made, and my partial reversions. I would probably restore a few more of the quotes I have not yet restored — but will save such tasks for later, IF an agreement can be determined, along the lines of simply organizing this page into alphabetized sections within the next month or so. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 05:25, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree that pulling quotes out based on filters is not a good idea. Instead, I would simply have subsections based on periods of time and sort the quotes chronologically. Yes, the page would be large, but this is a large subject. Arbitrarily creating new pages simply to trim the page makes it harder for people to find quotes if they are looking for them. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:09, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Good revert, Kalki, and I agree with it. I see no need to remove a quote from one page simply because it is on another, as a quote can be fitting for multiple pages if it fits the topic of discussion. Otherwise, every page here would be a stub.
 * I still believe it would be better to divide the quotes by time period (say by decade or by century) than to divide them alphabetically by speaker. Just as we do with the president pages, I feel that this would better serve the reader to understand quotes about such a large subject as the U.S. ~ UDScott (talk) 13:49, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm not so sure about that. We usually only divide a page's sub-headers into time periods if it's about a person. If it is about other topics, then we usually do alphabetical order by name, since it has multiple quotes from multiple different authors. This might also create problems with categorizing them, as not all of our quotes have exact dates, some are unknown. That also raises the question of which quotes to put into which sections. Do we put a quote from 2015 under the 19th century if it talks about the 19th century? Doing so might also create an imbalance in the content of each section, as quotes will probably be lopsided in favor of a certain time period. Besides, if somebody wants to find quotes from a specific time period, all they have to do is CTRL+F and type in the year they wish to find. Best regards, I.B. – Illegitimate Barrister, 13:09, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Questionable development of this lemma in the past three years
In the past three years 4000 edits seem to have turned this lemma of quotes into a lemma of abstracts. Just one examples: Three years ago the was one quote by Calvin Coolidge of 19 words, now there 54 quotes of over 7500 words (over 20 pages of text). Is this really what anybody wants? -- Mdd (talk) 12:51, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
 * At nearly a half million bytes, the present article certainly seems unwieldy to me. It must be a rare visitor who undertakes to read the whole thing, much less accomplishes it. Anyone who does read it all will surely find a bewildering array of diverse and distinct topics lumped together here, each having some bearing upon or relation to the United States but all together being a great mishmash lacking coherent thematic focus. Observing that we do have some articles that are focused on narrower themes relating to the United States, such as the American Dream, I wonder if it might be better to break most of this, or even all of it, into a set of more particular topics. At the very least, I think there are numerous broad topics such as Race in the United States, the Second Amendment, and American imperialism, to name a few, that ought not all be heaped together in one ginormous article. ~ Ningauble (talk) 15:43, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Quotes requiring editorial work
the following quote seems non-notable, and attribution is unclear
 * If aliens invaded Quebec, the U.S. press would give it two inches in the entertainment section.
 * Sparrow, as quoted in Dykes to Watch Out For, by Alison Bechdel

the following quote seems marginally relevant if at all to article topic
 * In the U.S., if you are a singer, you're usually a singer for life.
 * Yū Hayami, as quoted in "Here's looking at Yu" (28 November 2008), by Chris Betros, Japan Today.

Representation of African American voices
I hope the Wikiquote community will agree that African American voices are underrepresented in the United States article and help to remedy this. I have added several quotations representing these voices and will continue to add more. ~ Peter1c (talk) 16:58, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Their voices are underrepresented in all Wq-articles.--Risto hot sir (talk) 17:09, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This has nothing to do with the race of the people saying the quotes. It has to do with the rampant anti-Americanism of the quotes, being almost at the very front of the page. That's POV pushing. --101.176.45.111 06:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

I want to reiterate the emphasis on creating an account to properly participate in editorial debates. The inclusion of the images and quotations you propose to remove is supported by at least three experienced editors and no experienced editors have voiced agreement with your intent to remove the images. Having an account permits the community to know the history of an editor's contributions. Your concerns are valid, and they will be taken more seriously if you create an account. The racist history of the United States is an objective historical fact, not an anti-American point of view. Voices that recognize the reality of racism merit emphasis because the history of racism in the United States is an objective fact. ~ Peter1c (talk) 12:50, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * There are 233 African Americans at WQ at the moment while the amount of notable persons is about 20 000. And in Dixie almost all African Americans are sportspeople, musicians or civil rights activists. What's the reason?--Risto hot sir (talk) 15:43, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

 * Eh...it seems pretty non-neutral to start any article on any country with a charged political statement and an image of a protest. I mean, compare:
 * Turkey - National flag with vaguely positive quote from a British MP
 * Germany - National flag with vaguely positive quote from a general and military historian
 * Japan - National flag with vaguely positive aspirational quote from Japanese MP
 * Bosnia and Herzegovina - National flag with vaguely positive quote from a military leader
 * Then we are going to use an image of a protest and a radical political statement from a convicted felon for this article? I mean, in context, all the above countries have at one point been associated with serious war crimes. The quote on Bosnia and Herzegovina is from an actual convicted war criminal. But it looks like it's fairly common practice across nation articles to start out with a vaguely positive quote and a national flag.  G M G  talk  16:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree that an image of a protest (even a protest that was essential to a country's founding or restructuring of government, such as the Boston Tea Party or Arab Spring), is not a good idea, because it's a vast oversimplification that singles out a single issue for importance that ultimately has less of an impact on large swaths of the population than it does for others, and places far too much emphasis on one particular time period. Why the civil rights period instead of the American civil war, or why not the Occupy Wall Street protests, going along with what Dr. King said in The Radical King, p. 249, "Now our struggle is for genuine equality, which means economic equality. ... What does it profit a man to be able to eat at an integrated lunch counter if he doesn't earn enough money to buy a hamburger and a cup of coffee?" I've moved up two quotes with greater "endurance factor" from "America the Beautiful" by [[Katharine Lee Bates, accompanying two less dated images of landscapes, this should be fairly non controversial, it's what I normally do using flowers for movies about war crimes, rape and genocide because I assume it's not just images of genitals that gets Wikiquote filtered, and if you really need to know all the details Wikipedia is a a much better learning resource for history, quotes are nice and all and reveal the opinions of individuals, but historical academia is more about group consensus than individual opinion. Conversely, I would you to imagine instead of protests, that someone added images of military hardware; both technology and political movements addressing specific grievances, like fashion, can quickly become out of date; notice the Wikipedia page for computers has a wide assortment rather than a random computer from the 1980's that some editor personally preferred because that's what they grew up on. For someone who denounces racism, this seems an awful lot like "benevolent" racism, (apparently this editor doesn't particularly care as much about Indigenous Americans, despite the country being built on their lands), not to mention willfully ignorant sexism. Women represent slightly more than 50% of the population of countries that don't artificially adjust that number, yet having a suffragette protest would also be inappropriate in my opinion even though women are the statistical majority, women aren't protesting for a vote anymore, they are protesting for safer workplaces and more job opportunities, which I imagine someone who is more outspoken against the value of work than Buckminster Fuller, doesn't particularly think is an important issue, as they would be safe from workplace sexual harassment at home, as others have said in notable publications. I would guess that the strong opposition to flags and other state symbols, (for this one country and seemingly not the others) seems largely based off of an editor's opinion regarding the larger issues of iconoclasm and idolatry, even though flags generally don't have race or gender, which avoids the problem of unequal representation, even if it is more dehumanizing, it is at least equally dehumanizing to everyone. CensoredScribe (talk) 16:25, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Recent edits
About this edit, you state that this are POV and therefore the article is not balance. The Tatcher, Praguer and other are also POV from the other side of the political spectrum. By remove them now this article is not balanced. Also you re added the quotes of Christopher Shelley who I can't find any evidence of notability. Rupert Loup 21:27, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To which quotes are you referring? If other quotes on the page (especially those associated with images) show POV pushing, then they should be brought up here and discussed (and them removed if the concern is borne out). And I already re-removed the Shelley quotes - I think you were right regarding notability. ~ UDScott (talk) 21:32, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * How unique is the United States of America. No other nation has been created so swiftly and successfully. No other nation has been built upon an idea; the idea of liberty. No other nation has so successfully combined people of different races and nations within a single culture. ~ Margaret Thatcher

 * Both the founding fathers of the United States and successive waves of immigrants to your country were determined to create a new identity. Whether in flight from persecution or from poverty, the huddled masses have, with few exceptions, welcomed American values, the American way of life and American opportunities. And America herself has bound them to her with powerful bonds of patriotism and pride. ~ Margaret Thatcher

 * Most Americans no longer know what America stands for. For them, America has become just another country, a place located between Canada and Mexico. But America was founded to be an idea, not another country. ~ Dennis Prager

 * The Declaration of Independence, the document that articulated the principle of human rights endowed by the Creator, thereby ultimately ensuring the end of slavery, and led to the establishment of the country that has served as the beacon of hope for people of every race and ethnicity. More black Africans have voluntarily emigrated to the United States to seek liberty and opportunity than came to America as slaves... America gradually became the least-xenophobic, least-racist nation in the world. In no country do people become accepted as full members of the society as do immigrants to America. ~ Dennis Prager

Among others, like by example from Bush and Reagan. Also, there are a lot of quotes with images from the same author. Rupert Loup 21:50, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Of the quotes mentioned above, I would contend that the Margaret Thatcher ones should certainly remain as they are from a clearly notable person and definitely pertain to the topic of the page. Why would these be removed? The Dennis Prager ones are ones that I could agree might be suspect (and the author seems to lack notability). As for quotes from former presidents like Bush or Reagan, I again would not see the need to remove them. ~ UDScott (talk) 21:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I didn't mentioned notability here, we are talking about POV and balance.

Another one:
 * Once they see that you don't have to bribe the police here, they're satisfied.
 * Tamar Jacoby

 * Rupert Loup 21:59, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Again, I would agree with the removal of the Jacoby quote above (and maybe place it instead on a page about police or law or justice). But I still don't see how the Thatcher quotes would be subject to removal. I don't see how they would fit the description of POV-pushing quotes. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:01, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Your rationale to delete the images were that there were POV and affected the balance of the article, I said that there are here to balance the other POV quotes. There can not be double standards in a balanced article. Rupert Loup 22:06, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Of what double standard are you accusing me? I don't see a double standard and I don't see that the Thatcher quotes push a POV. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm talking about the article. "Wikiquote has a strict neutral point of view (NPOV) policy, which basically states that its mission is best served not by advancing or detracting particular points of view on any given subject." WQ:NPOV Deleting those quotes and keep and giving prominece to the pro American and conservative quotes fails that policy. Rupert Loup 22:11, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * OK fine. And I agree with keeping a NPOV. Bit I again fail to see where the Thatcher quotes violate that. By your rationale, it appears that any quote that demonstrates a positive feeling by someone on the topic constitutes a violation. If that were the case, and they were removed, I doubt there would be any quotes left. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:22, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not who is deleting quotes claiming POV here, that one is the IP. Rupert Loup 01:45, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * And just to be clear - it is not the neutrality of the entire article to which I object. It is the placement of POV-pushing quotes with images that in effect highlights them (much as some object to bolding of specific quotes, if it drives a POV). Having the quotes on the page is fine with me (although the notability of some can certainly be questioned) - but emphasizing them above others inherently drives a POV. ~ UDScott (talk) 22:28, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm going to start ordering them alphabetically. Rupert Loup 23:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

 * Assuming we're talking about this edit, yes, the grouping of six negative quotes in a row at the top of the page looks pretty POV. Not that this page won't have negative and positive quotes, but to the extent that we have them, we probably shouldn't group six of them together at the top of the page.
 * On a note about formatting, we really shouldn't group all the images together at the top of the page, but should intersperse them throughout the article. Grouping them at the top like this make it difficult to edit the page, and results in weird formatting problems. Currently this page is nearly useless on mobile view. You get the lead, and then you get 30 some odd images stacking all in a row, and you have to scroll through all of them until you get to the very first quote under the "A" section.  G M G  talk  01:46, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * There is no need to remove the quotes to fix that. Rupert Loup 01:49, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, the dispute according to the edit history seems to be about these images stacked at the top of the article. So that's what I commented on.  G M G  talk  01:57, 7 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved the images to their corresponding sections, I hope that the formatting issues have been alleviated. At least a little bit. Rupert Loup 02:30, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

I have reviewed the page after recent edits, and I find that the viewpoints represented are predominantly white, male, pro-U.S., pro-colonial, pro-imperial, pro-establishment. We hear far more voices of slaveholders than of slaves. We hear far more voices of colonists than of indigenous people whose land was stolen. We hear far more voices of commanders ordering bombs to be dropped than of people being bombed. In February 2018, I made a series of edits to attempt to remedy some of these discrepancies. In these edits, in addition to adding new material, I arranged the images in such a way that voices that were not given adequate representation in the page were at least displayed prominently at the beginning. These changes were left in place by the community for almost two years and 60,000 views. Now some editors propose a new approach. I suggest that more discussion is required to justify this. I still believe that if the page as a whole gives inadequate weight to voices of victims and opponents of the U. S. regime, then these voices must at least be displayed more prominently. Otherwise the page represents an exercise in glorification of a regime with an avowed white-supremacist, genocidal history. To establish neutrality, more prominence must be given to voices of victims of slavery, genocide, racism and U. S. imperialism. ~ Peter1c (talk) 14:26, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * You make some decent points that are difficult to argue with Peter, but then you make some less persuasive points for added length. "These changes were left in place by the community for almost two years and 60,000 views". Now is that really a good justification, coming from someone who intends to remove some of up my edits after X years and Y number of views? If I used that reasoning I'm sure you would have included a link explaining why page views and length of time an edit has been on Wikiquote don't really mean anything. If you honestly believe those factors are important, why do you not consider them for my edits? CensoredScribe (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 * CensoredScribe, thank you for your feedback. I agree that the argument "Edits have been left in place for X years and Y views" is not persuasive, particularly as I have not adhered to such a standard in my own edits. This is a good point. I have struck out this argument and leave the others in place. Thanks. ~ Peter1c (talk) 01:56, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * While I have noted my objections above, I believe the only way to avoid such disputes in the future is to adopt a more neutral policy (much like Robert Loup already did on some pages) - that is to order all images alphabetically by their author/speaker. That would also align them with their letter subsection on theme pages where such sorting is in place. This also does not provide any special weight to placement on the page. Again, let me state that I do not have a problem with the quotes themselves, but rather the special placement of them at the top, which was the result of a personal view or choice. Taking that choice out of the equation by sorting things alphabetically would solve this for me. Anyone agree? ~ UDScott (talk) 17:57, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with much of UDScott's above statement. It has long been my own practice on most pages to try to choose one or two clearly relevant, significant and characteristic quotes of an author, or regarding a theme of a page, paired with an image usually of no great controversy regarding its general relevance to the page, placing them into the upper right corner, and then running the rest of any captioned images along the right side, in the order of their textual placements on the page — thus on theme pages ordering all subsequent images alphabetically by the author/speaker or source of their captioned quote. I believe that in all my many years here, there are very few exceptions to such practices which I have created or overtly accepted — and I have ALWAYS regarded the run of most quotes below the lead one or two in the introductory section, into their order on the page as innately proper, and exceptions to that bothersome in many ways. I have recognized that in recent months and years that there has been a marked increase in people either ignoring or oblivious to such examples, and often placing some of the most clearly and extremely controversial or contentious statements they can in whatever order they wish, often in extensive bundles at the top of pages, and often pushing images with far more general relevance and quotes with less controversial qualities lower on the page, or removing them entirely. I consider this very unfortunate, and against both general Wikiquote and Wikimedia guidelines, but have not had a great deal of time to actively deal with many such incidents in recent months — I might begin to address it more regularly in the months ahead, but I recognize that doing so has often been a very time consuming, contentious process which often detracts from engaging in more generally important activities and issues. So it goes… ⨀∴☥☮♥∵ॐ … Blessings. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·⚚⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 18:29, 16 December 2019 (UTC) + tweaks

The fact that the U. S. regime was founded by genocidal slaveholders is not so much a controversial or contentious statement as a statement that racists are intent on obfuscating. I don't object to ordering images alphabetically, but more voices of women and Native Americans and African Americans and other oppressed people really ought be included. Holding up the words of white supremacist slaveholders without some indication of the type of individuals we are dealing with -- hagiography for genocidal slaveholders -- this is racist history, not a neutral point of view. ~ Peter1c (talk) 00:15, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don’t believe anyone who doesn’t have extreme mental or moral deficiencies would declare me a racist intent on obfuscating that racial injustices and bigotries exist, have existed in far worse degrees than they currently do in most nations of the world, and will probably, quite lamentably, continue to exist in the US and other nations for generations yet — but the mental and moral deficiencies of those who would insist that such injustices are what should be emphasized FIRST and FOREMOST about the US are such as I do not wish to extensively elaborate upon. It seems you performed a similar MOVE of a quote such as I was performing, while I was editing, returning the Great Seal of the US as the initial image on the page, where it had existed on the page for years prior to recent months — and followed it by a representation of the US flag and the Statue of Liberty, with a quote regarding the flag: I stated in a summary noted that I was moving "a bit of presumptuously bigoted nonsense: some of the states that existed were apartheid states prior to their Unity — & only through their Unity were they eventually cured of such injustices—though of course various bigotries remain in the US — & in all nations…because humans remain VERY confused about MUCH." Such is a very short summary of the error of placing such a statement FULL of error as Gerald Horne's presumptuous and false statement that "the founders of the republic have been hailed and lionized by left, right, and center for—in effect—creating the first apartheid state." One has to be IGNORANT of MUCH of world history to make such an asinine statement, or promote it. MANY nations have been established as aparthied or caste states since ancient times, and the colonies in which slavery existed prior the unity of the states, while not independent of the UK, were maintaining an abhorrent tradition fully sanctioned by that nation, at that time. ~ ♞☤☮♌Kalki·⚚⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 00:54, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

Interesting discussion. I am OK with latest edits. I do request your help in including more African American voices, women, Native Americans, and other minorities and oppressed voices on Wikiquote. Regarding your claims:

 * All states assented to the fugitive slave clause. All states ratified the constitution that made slavery possible in slave states. All states ate crops grown by slaves. Banks in all states profited from slavery. No state offered to pay back wages from these profits. All states were complicit in slavery.

 * When criticizing professional historians, perhaps a somewhat more respectful tone is called for? Professor Horne has devoting his life to studying history. This doesn't mean he is not wrong. But it certainly means that dismissing his conclusions without examining the full evidence offered and the state of scholarly debates on the subject is inappropriate. I am certainly "ignorant of much of world history" but why claim that a professor of history is ignorant of history? The faculty at the University of Houston decided to appoint Professor Horne to the John J. and Rebecca Moores Chair of History and African American Studies. Were they wrong to do so?

 * I would be interested in how Somerset v Stewart and Dunmore's Proclamation fit into your narrative and how you respond to Horne's specific arguments.

I am grateful for this opportunity to work with you on Wikiquote. ~ Peter1c (talk) 15:48, 25 December 2019 (UTC)

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Deceptively edited George Kennan quote
In 1948, George Kennan wrote a secret memo of advice concerning post-War US diplomacy, which you can read in its entirety at WikiSource. One part of the memo is his advice about Asia. Kennan strongly advised against intervening in China's civil war. Truman took Kennan's advice and in 1949 the PRC was successfully established.

From Kennan's advice related to East Asia, a carefully selected portion has been used in several articles to give a false impression. Here's that edited bit, which I just removed.

"We have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3% of its population. ... In the face of this situation ... we should dispense with the aspiration to 'be liked' or to be regarded as the repository of a high-minded international altruism. We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brothers' keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague and—for the Far East—unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."

Now here's that edited bit with some context restored.

'''We must be very careful when we speak of exercising "leadership" in Asia. We are deceiving ourselves and others when we pretend to have answers to the problems, which agitate many of these Asiatic peoples. Furthermore, '''

we have about 50% of the world's wealth but only 6.3 of its population.

''' This disparity is particularly great as between ourselves and the peoples of Asia. In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment... All of the Asiatic peoples are faced with the necessity for evolving new forms of life to conform to the impact of modern technology. This process of adaptation will also be long and violent. It is not only possible, but probable, that in the course of this process many peoples will fall, for varying periods, under the influence of Moscow, whose ideology has a greater lure for such peoples, and probably greater reality, than anything we could oppose to it. All this, too, is probably unavoidable; and we could not hope to combat it without the diversion of a far greater portion of our national effort than our people would ever willingly concede to such a purpose.'''

In the face of this situation

'''we would be better off to dispense now with a number of the concepts which have underlined our thinking with regard to the Far East. '''

''We should dispense with the aspiration to 'be liked' or to be regarded as the repository of a high-minded international altruism. We should stop putting ourselves in the position of being our brothers' keeper and refrain from offering moral and ideological advice. We should cease to talk about vague — and for the Far East — unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are hampered by idealistic slogans, the better.''

The real context shows how the little bit taken from it is misleading. Kennan was not suggesting that the US should use its wealth to oppress the rest of the world without thought for morality. He was pointing out that US wealth did not give Truman the ability or the right to try to impose US values on the peoples of East Asia.

To clarify, the quote was deceptively edited to suggest that when Kennan says "In the face of this situation" he refers to America's wealth, something he had mentioned about a paragraph earlier, and suggesting America use it to be a bully. In context, Kennan was saying the opposite. HouseOfChange (talk) 00:23, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Walt Whitman?
not one quote from Walt Whitman? Please fix. Kingturtle (talk) 02:09, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the suggestion! I added some. HouseOfChange (talk) 20:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Removed quote
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 * America is a multi-ethnic and religious nation, a country of freedom.
 * Ali Al Lami, as quoted in "Iraqis fighting ISIS alongside U.S. troops criticize new ban on entering U.S." (25 January 2017), CBS News

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