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J. M. Coetzee

John Maxwell Coetzee (born 9 February 1940), often called J. M. Coetzee, is a South African-born writer and academic. A novelist and literary critic as well as a translator, Coetzee won the 2003 Nobel Prize in Literature. He now lives in Australia.

 * See also Foe

Quotes

 * Erasmus dramatizes a well-established political position: that of the fool who claims license to criticize all and sundry without reprisal, since his madness defines him as not fully a person and therefore not a political being with political desires and ambitions. The Praise of Folly, therefore sketches the possibility of a position for the critic of the scene of political rivalry, a position not simply impartial between the rivals but also, by self-definition, off the stage of rivalry altogether.
 * “Erasmus’s Praise of Folly: Rivalry and Madness,” Neophilologus 76 (1992), p. 1

 * It is not, then, in the content or substance of folly that its difference from truth lies, but in where it comes from. It comes not from ‘the wise man’s mouth’ but from the mouth of the subject assumed not to know and speak the truth.
 * “Erasmus: Madness and Rivalry,” Giving Offense: Essays on Censorship (1996), p. 94

 * In its conception the literature prize belongs to days when a writer could still be thought of as, by virtue of his or her occupation, a sage, someone with no institutional affiliations who could offer an authoritative word on our times as well as on our moral life. (It has always struck me as strange, by the way, that Alfred Nobel did not institute a philosophy prize, or for that matter that he instituted a physics prize but not a mathematics prize, to say nothing of a music prize - music is, after all, more universal than literature, which is bound to a particular language.) The idea of writer as sage is pretty much dead today. I would certainly feel very uncomfortable in the role.
 * Dagens Nyheter interview with David Attwell (December 8, 2003)

 * [Being peppered with invitations to travel far and wide to give lectures] has always seemed to me one of the stranger aspects of literary fame: you prove your competence as a writer and an inventor of stories, and then people clamour for you to make speeches and tell them what you think about the world.
 * Dagens Nyheter interview with David Attwell (December 8, 2003)

 * As for September 11, let us not too easily grant the Americans possession of that date on the calendar. Like May 1 or July 14 or December 25, September 11 may seem full of significance to some people, while to other people it is just another day.
 * Dagens Nyheter interview with David Attwell (December 8, 2003)

 * To any thinking person, it must be obvious that there is something badly wrong in relations between human beings and the animals that human beings rely on for food; and that in the past 100 or 150 years whatever is wrong has become wrong on a huge scale, as traditional animal husbandry has been turned into an industry using industrial methods of production. … It would be a mistake to idealise traditional animal husbandry as the standard by which the animal-products industry falls short: traditional animal husbandry is brutal enough, just on a smaller scale. A better standard by which to judge both practices would be the simple standard of humanity: is this truly the best that human beings are capable of?
 * “Animals can't speak for themselves - it's up to us to do it!,” in theage.com.au (February 22, 2007)

 * A dictum [Beckett] quotes from his favourite philosopher, the second-generation Cartesian Arnold Geulincx (1624-1669) suggests his overall stance toward the political: ubi nihil vales, ibi nihil velis, which may be glossed: Don’t invest hope or longing in an arena where you have no power.
 * “The Making of Samuel Beckett,” New York Review of Books, vol. LVI, no. 7 (April 30, 2009), p. 13

 * Light in tone, the novel [Murphy] is Beckett’s response to the therapeutic orthodoxy that the patient should learn to engage with the larger world on the world’s terms.
 * “The Making of Samuel Beckett,” New York Review of Books, vol. LVI, no. 7 (April 30, 2009), p. 14

 * The activity of writing, then, is not to be distinguished from the activity of self-exploration. It consists in contemplating the sea of internal images, discerning connections, and setting these out in grammatical sentences (“I could never conceive of a network of meaning too complex to be expressed in a series of grammatical sentences,” says Murnane, whose views on grammar are firm, even pedantic.)
 * “The quest for the girl from Bendigo Street,” The New York Review of Books, v. 59. n. 20, December 20, 2012

Waiting for the Barbarians (1980)

 * The new men of Empire are the ones who believe in fresh starts, new chapters, clean pages; I struggle on with the old story, hoping that before it is finished it will reveal to me why it was that I thought it worth the trouble.
 * p.24.

 * Where civilization entailed the corruption of barbarian virtues and the creation of a dependent people, I was opposed to civilization...
 * p. 41.

 * Will we live to regret this blood spent so lavishly on the sand?
 * p. 67.

 * Truly the world should belong to singers and dancers.
 * p. 68.

 * Futile bitterness, idle melancholy, empty regrets.
 * p. 68.

 * Truly, man was not made to live alone!
 * p. 87.

 * Somewhere, always, a child is being beaten.
 * p. 88.

 * How can I accept that disaster has overtaken my life when the world continues to move so tranquilly through its cycles?
 * p. 102.

Life & Times of Michael K (1983)

 * I could live here forever, he thought, or till I die. Nothing would happen, every day would be the same as the day before, there would be nothing to say. The anxiety that belonged to the time on the road began to leave him. Sometimes, as he walked, he did not know whether he was awake or asleep. He could understand that people should have retreated here and fenced themselves in with miles and miles of silence; he could understand that they should have wanted to bequeath the privilege of so much silence to their children and grandchildren in perpetuity (though by what right he was not sure); he wondered whether there were not forgotten corners and angles and corridors between the fences, land that belonged to no one yet. Perhaps if one flew high enough, he thought, one would be able to see.

 * There seemed nothing to do but live.

 * He closed his eyes and tried to recover in his imagination the mudbrick walls and reed roof of her stories, the garden of prickly pear, the chickens scampering for the feed scattered by the little barefoot girl. And behind that child, in the doorway, her face obscured by shadow, he searched for a second woman, the woman from whom his mother had come into the world. When my mother was dying in the hospital, he thought, when she knew her end was coming, it was not me she looked to but someone who stood behind me: her mother or the ghost of her mother. To me she was a woman but to herself she was still a child calling to her mother to hold her hand and help her. And her own mother, in the secret life we do not see, was a child too. I come from a line of children without end.

 * Do any of us believe in what we are doing here? I doubt it. Her NCO husband least of all. We are given an old racetrack and a quantity of barbed wire and told to effect a change in men's souls. Not being experts on the soul but assuming cautiously that it has some connection with the body, we set our captives to doing pushups and marching back and forth.

 * He is like a stone, a pebble that, having lain around quietly minding its own business since the dawn of time, is now suddenly picked up and tossed randomly from hand to hand. A hard little stone, barely aware of its surroundings, enveloped in itself and its interior life. He passes through these institutions and camps and hospitals and God knows what else like a stone. Through the intestines of war. An unbearing, unborn creature.

 * Though this is a large country, so large that you would think there would be space for everyone, what I have learned from life tells me that it is hard to keep out of the camps. Yet I am convinced there are areas that lie between the camps and belong to no camp, not even to the catchment areas of the camps — certain mountaintops, for example, certain islands in the middle of swamps, certain arid strips where human beings may not find it worth their while to live. I am looking for such a place in order to settle there, perhaps only till things improve, perhaps forever. I am not so foolish, however, as to imagine that I can rely on maps and roads to guide me. Therefore I have chosen you to show me the way.

Boyhood (1998)

 * Coming to the farm from Worcester, where Coloured people seem to have to beg for whatever they get, he is relieved at how correct and formal relations are between his uncle and the volk. Each morning, his uncle confers with his two men about the day's tasks. He does not give them orders. Instead he proposes the tasks that need to be done, as if dealing cards on a table; his men deal their own cards too. In between, there are pauses, long, reflective silences in which nothing happens.

 * The secret and sacred word that binds him to the farm is 'belong'. Out in the veld by himself he can breathe the word aloud: I belong on the farm. What he really believes but does not utter, what he keeps to himself for fear that the spell will end, is a different form of the word: I belong to the farm. He tells no one because the word is misunderstood so easily, turned so easily to its inverse: The farm belongs to me. The farm will never belong to him, he will never be more than a visitor: he accepts that.

 * Sometimes when he is among the sheep — when they have been rounded up to be dipped, and are penned tight and cannot get away — he wants to whisper to them, warn them of what lies in store. But then in their yellow eyes he catches a glimpse of something that silences him: a resignation, a foreknowledge not only of what happens to sheep at the hands of Ros behind the shed, but of what awaits them at the end of their long, thirsty ride to Cape Town on the transport lorry. They know it all, down to the finest detail, and yet they submit. They have calculated the price and are prepared to pay it — the price of being on earth, the price of being alive.

 * The boy is special, Aunt Annie told his mother, and his mother in turn told him. But what kind of special? No one ever says.

Disgrace (1999)

 * Although he devoted hours of each day to his new discipline, he finds its first premise, as enunciated in the Communications 101 handbook, preposterous: 'Human society has created language in order that we may communicate our thoughts, feelings, and intentions to each other.' His own opinion, which he does not air, is that the origins of speech lie in song, and the origins of song in the need to fill out with sound the overlarge and rather empty human soul.
 * p. 3-4

 * Isaacs has a cheap Bic pen in his hand. He runs his fingers down the shaft, inverts it, runs his fingers down the shaft, over and over, in a motion that is mechanical rather than impatient.

 * Talking to Petrus is like punching a bag of sand. 'Are you giving him up?' 'Yes, I am giving him up.'

 * "Is he happy? By most measurements, yes, he believes he is. However, he has not forgotten the last chorus of Oedipus: Call no man happy until he is dead."
 * Chapter 1, page 2.

 * The company of women made of him a lover of women and, to a certain extent, a womanizer."
 * Chapter 1, page 7.

 * "Why? Because a woman's beauty does not belong to her alone. It is part of the bounty she brings into the world. She has a duty to share it."
 * Chapter 2, page 16.

 * "Not rape, not quite that, but undesired nevertheless, undesired to the core. As though she had decided to go slack, die within herself for the duration, like a rabbit when the jaws of the fox close on its neck. So that everything done to her might be done, as it were, far away."
 * Chapter 3, page 25.

 * Scandal. A pity that must be his theme, but he is in no state to improvise.
 * Chapter 3, page 31

 * That is how it begins.
 * Chapter 4, page 38

 * ... the whole thing is disgraceful from beginning to end. Disgraceful and vulgar.
 * page 45

 * Confessions, apologies: why this thirst for abasement? A hush falls. They circle around him like hunters who have cornered a strange beast and do not know how to finish it off.
 * page 56.

 * It reminds me too much of Mao’s China. Recantation, self-criticism, public apology.
 * page 66

 * What was ignoble about the Kenilworth spectacle was that the poor dog had begun to hate its own nature. It no longer needed to be beaten. It was ready to punish itself. At that point it would have been better to shoot it.
 * page 90.

 * Too many people, too few things. What there is must go into circulation, so that everyone can have a chance to be happy for a day. That is the theory; hold to the theory and to the comforts of theory. Not human evil, just a vast circulatory system, to whose workings pity and terror are irrelevant. That is how one must see life in this country: in its schematic aspect. Otherwise one could go mad. Cars, shoes; women too. There must be some niche in the system for women and what happens to them.
 * page 98.

 * You behave as if everything I do is part of the story of your life. You are the main character, I am a minor character who doesn’t make an appearance until halfway through.
 * page 198.

 * You behave as if everything I do is part of the story of your life. You are the main character, I am a minor character who doesn’t make an appearance until halfway through.
 * page 198.

The Lives of Animals (1999)

 * Princeton University Press, Human Values series, 1999. On Google Books.

 * The people who lived in the countryside around Treblinka—Poles, for the most part—said that they did not know what was going on in the camp; said that, while in a general way they might have guessed what was going on, they did not know for sure; said that, while in a sense they might have known, in another sense they did not know, could not afford to know, for their own sake.
 * p. 19

 * I return one last time to the places of death all around us, the places of slaughter to which, in a huge communal effort, we close our hearts. Each day a fresh holocaust, yet, as far as I can see, our moral being is untouched.
 * p. 35

 * What he dreads is that, during a lull in the conversation, someone will come up with what he calls The Question—“What led you, Mrs. Costello, to become a vegetarian?”—and that she will then get on her high horse and produce what he and Norma call The Plutarch Response. … The response in question comes from Plutarch's moral essays. His mother has it by heart; he can reproduce it only imperfectly. “You ask me why I refuse to eat flesh. I, for my part, am astonished that you can put in your mouth the corpse of a dead animal, am astonished that you do not find it nasty to chew hacked flesh and swallow the juices of death-wounds.” Plutarch is a real conversation-stopper: it is the word juices that does it. Producing Plutarch is like throwing down a gauntlet; after that, there is no knowing what will happen.
 * p. 38

 * “But your own vegetarianism, Mrs. Costello,” says President Garrard, pouring oil on troubled waters: “it comes out of moral conviction, does it not?” “No, I don't think so,” says his mother. “It comes out of a desire to save my soul.” Now there truly is a silence, broken only by the clink of plates as the waitresses set baked Alaskas before them. “Well, I have a great respect for it,” says Garrard. “As a way of life.” “I'm wearing leather shoes,” says his mother. “I'm carrying a leather purse. I wouldn't have overmuch respect if I were you.” “Consistency,” murmurs Garrard. “Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds. Surely one can draw a distinction between eating meat and wearing leather.” “Degrees of obscenity,” she replies.
 * pp. 43-44

 * It was from the Chicago stockyards that the Nazis learned how to process bodies.
 * p. 53

 * “It's been such a short visit, I haven't had time to make sense of why you have become so intense about the animal business.” She watches the wipers wagging back and forth. “A better explanation,” she says, “is that I have not told you why, or dare not tell you. When I think of the words, they seem so outrageous that they are best spoken into a pillow or into a hole in the ground, like King Midas.” “What is it you can't say?” “It's that I no longer know where I am. I seem to move around perfectly easily among people, to have perfectly normal relations with them. Is it possible, I ask myself, that all of them are participants in a crime of stupefying proportions? Am I fantasizing it all? I must be mad! Yet every day I see the evidences. The very people I suspect produce the evidence, exhibit it, offer it to me. Corpses. Fragments of corpses that they have bought for money. It is as if I were to visit friends, and to make some polite remark about the lamp in their living room, and they were to say, ‘Yes, it's nice, isn't it? Polish-Jewish skin it's made of, we find that's best, the skins of young Polish-Jewish virgins.’ And then I go to the bathroom and the soap-wrapper says, ‘Treblinka— 100% human stearate.’ Am I dreaming, I say to myself?”
 * p. 69

Youth (2002)

 * At the Everyman Cinema there is a season of Satyajit Ray. He watches the Apu trilogy on successive nights in a state of rapt absorption. In Apu's bitter, trapped mother, his engaging, feckless father he recognizes, with a pang of guilt, his own parents. But it is the music above all that grips him, dizzyingly complex interplays between drums and stringed instruments, long arias on the flute whose scale or mode — he does not know enough about music theory to be sure which — catches at his heart, sending him into a mood of sensual melancholy that last long after the film has ended.

 * Hitherto he has found in Western music, in Bach above all, everything he needs. Now he encounters something that is not in Bach, though there are intimations of it: a joyous yielding of the reasoning, comprehending mind to the dance of the fingers. He hunts through record shops, and in one of them finds an LP of a sitar player named Ustad Vilayat Khan, with his brother — a younger brother, to judge from the picture — on a veena, and an unnamed tabla player. He does not have a gramophone of this own, but he is able to listen to the first ten minutes in the shop. It is all there: the hovering exploration of tone-sequences, the quivering emotion, the ecstatic rushes. He cannot believe his good fortune. A new continent and all for a mere nine shillings! He takes the record back to his room, packs it away between sleeves of cardboard till the day he will able to listen to it again.

Elizabeth Costello (2003)

 * He is here, with her, out of love. *He cannot imagine her getting through this trial without him at her side.”
 * Narrator chapter 1 paragraph 20.

 * She inhabits her characters as a woman does, not a man.
 * Susan Mobeus, chapter 1 paragraph 135.

 * She is not sure, as she listens to her own voice, whether she believes any longer in what she is saying.
 * Narrator chapter 2 paragraph 18.

 * A French or English writer has thousands of years of written tradition behind him…We on the other hand are heirs to an oral tradition.
 * Emmanuel Egudu chapter 22 paragraph 39.

 * They lost their humanity, in our eyes, because of a certain willed ignorance on their part.
 * Chapter 3

 * Because Costello is his mother’s maiden name, and because he has never seen any reason to broadcast his connection with her, it was not known at the time of the invitation that Elizabeth Costello, the Australian writer, had a family connection in the Appleton community. He would have preferred that state of affairs to continue.”
 * Part 1, Page 16.

 * “Norma and his mother have never liked each other. Probably his mother would have chosen not to like any woman he married.”
 * Part 1, Page 17.

 * “His mother is entitled to her convictions, he believes. If she wants to spend her declining years making propaganda against cruelty to animals, that is her right.”
 * Part 1, Page 17.

 * She no longer believes very strongly in belief... Belief may be no more, in the end, than a source of energy, like a battery which one clips into an idea to make it run. As happens when one writes: believing whatever has to be believed in order to get the job done.

Slow Man (2004)

 * But truth is not spoken in anger. Truth is spoken, if it ever comes to be spoken, in love.

 * Can desire grow out of admiration, or are the two quite distinct species? What would it be like to lie side by side, naked, breast to breast, with a woman one principally admires?

 * Paul here is unhappy because unhappiness is second nature to him but more particularly because he has not the faintest idea of how to bring about his heart's desire. And I am unhappy because nothing is happening. Four people in four corners, moping, like tramps in Beckett, and myself in the middle, wasting time, being wasted by time.

 * Why does love, even such love as he claims to practise, need the spectacle of beauty to bring it to life? What, in the abstract, do shapely legs have to do with love, or for that matter with desire? Or is that just the nature of nature, about which one does not ask questions?

 * Our lies reveal as much about us as our truths.

Diary of a Bad Year (2007)

 * Someone should put together a ballet under the title Guantanamo, Guantanamo! A corps of prisoners, their ankles shackled together, thick felt mittens on their hands, muffs over their ears, black hoods over their heads, do the dances of the persecuted and the desperate. Around them, guards in olive green uniforms prance with demonic energy and glee, cattle prods and billy-clubs at the ready. They touch the prisoners with the prods and the prisoners leap; they wrestle prisoners to the ground and shove the clubs up their anuses and the prisoners go into spasms. In a corner, a man on stilts in a Donald Rumsfeld mask alternately writes at his lectern and dances ecstatic little jigs. One day it will be done, though not by me. It may even be a hit in London and Berlin and New York. It will have absolutely no effect on the people it targets, who could not care less what ballet audiences think of them.

 * As during the time of kings it would have been naive to think that the king’s firstborn son would be the fittest to rule, so in our time it is naive to think that the democratically elected ruler will be the fittest. The rule of succession is not a formula for identifying the best ruler, it is a formula for conferring legitimacy on someone or other and thus forestalling civil conflict.
 * p. 14

 * If you have reservations about the system and want to change it, the democratic argument goes, do so within the system: put yourself forward as a candidate for political office, subject yourself to the scrutiny and the vote of fellow citizens. Democracy does not allow for politics outside the democratic system. In this sense, democracy is totalitarian.
 * p. 15

 * Machiavelli says that if as a ruler you accept that your every action must pass moral scrutiny, you will without fail be defeated by an opponent who submits to no such moral test. To hold on to power, you have not only to master the crafts of deception and treachery but to be prepared to use them where necessary.
 * p. 17

 * The modern state appeals to morality, to religion, and to natural law as the ideological foundation of its existence. At the same time it is prepared to infringe any or all of these in the interest of self-preservation.
 * p. 17

 * The typical reaction of liberal intellectuals is to seize on the contradiction here: How can something be both wrong and right, or at least both wrong and OK, at the same time? What liberal intellectuals fail to see is that this so-called contradiction expresses the quintessence of the Machiavellian and therefore the modern, a quintessence that has been thoroughly absorbed by the man in the street. The world is ruled by necessity, says the man in the street, not by some abstract moral code. We have to do what we have to do. If you wish to counter the man in the street, it cannot be by appeal to moral principles, much less by demanding that people should run their lives in such a way that there are no contradictions between what they say and what they do. Ordinary life is full of contradictions; ordinary people are used to accommodating them. Rather, you must attack the metaphysical, supra-empirical status of necessità and show that to be fraudulent.
 * p. 17

The Pole and Other Stories (2023)

 * So when you climbed, he said, you had to go careful. You had to watch your older brother and follow close his moves. You had to think back on every step before you took it. Remembering hard the whole way up. ... "And if you can’t memory right," he said, "you lose."
 * Michael and Francis, p. 11

 * We had been stopped by the cops before. There was a routine to it all: we knew that if you carefully played along you’d eventually be released, if not with your dignity, then at least with your skin. But that night we sensed an urgency we hadn’t experienced before. With the blinding headlights upon me, I couldn’t process the commands.
 * Michael, p. 34

 * The world around us was named Scarborough. It had once been called “Scarberia,” a wasteland on the outskirts of a sprawling city. But now, as we were growing up in the early ’80s, in the heated language of a changing nation, we heard it called other names: Scarlem, Scarbistan. We lived in Scar-bro, a suburb that had mushroomed up and yellowed, browned, and blackened into life.
 * Michael, p. 20

 * Always, there were stories on TV and in the papers of gangs, killings in bad neighborhoods, predators roaming close. One morning, I peered with Francis into a newspaper box to read a headline about the latest terror and caught in the glass the reflection of our own faces.
 * Michael, p. 19

 * “You know,” he said, “you’ve got to work on things. … Like stepping into Desirea’s the way you did. Like always looking so unsure. You’ve got to be cooler about things, and not put everything out on your face all the time. You’ve got to carry yourself better and think about your look. Doesn’t matter how poor you are.”
 * Francis, p. 80

 * In Desirea’s, you postured but you also played. You showed up every one of your dictated roles and fates. Our parents had come from Trinidad and Jamaica and Barbados, from Sri Lanka and Poland and Somalia and Vietnam. They worked shit jobs, struggled with rent, were chronically tired, and often pushed just as chronically tired notions about identity and respectability. But in Desirea’s, different styles and kinships were possible. You found new language, you caught the gestures, you kept the meanings close as skin.
 * Michael, p. 90

 * Would you agree that Francis had a bit of a reputation? Did he sometimes exhibit unpredictable moods? Would you agree, Michael, that your brother possessed a history of violence?
 * Michael (paraphrasing the police), p. 164

 * Francis had always protected me. It was his instinct. He saw the vulnerability, understood it all too well. But in that final moment in Desirea's, he had tried to protect another. When a cop with his hand on his holstered gun grabbed Jelly and tried to pull him away, Francis had panicked. "Don't touch him," he'd said, reaching to still the weapon. It was a gesture with history, but unreadable by those around him holding power. The authorities had investigated, interviewed witnesses, pronounced their conclusions. "They called it lawful," I told Aisha. And what else could we do but each look away?
 * Michael, p. 159

 * I return to Mother's stretcher, and she's sitting up now, wearing a hospital gown as neatly as she can make it seem. When she reads my face, she smooths her hair, sits up straight, the paper beneath her making soft crinkling sounds. "It is a new day," she says firmly.
 * Michael and Ruth, p. 164

 * "Can we visit it soon?" Aisha asks. "It's supposed to be warm this weekend." [...] "What do you say?" Aisha presses. "The pathway down should be clear enough to get close to the creek. We'll be sure to go slow, Ruth. Maybe we could borrow a wheelchair. Jelly? Are you in?"
 * Aisha, p. 165

Quotes about J M Coetzee

 * I admire writers like J.M. Coetzee, Nuruddin Farah, Michael Ondaatje, I can name several.
 * Abdulrazak Gurnah Interview (2021)

 * (whom of those you have read recently have you found impressive?) AO: The South Africans: Nadine Gordimer, J. M. Coetzee, and André Brink.
 * Amos Oz 1986 interview in We Are All Close: Conversations with Israeli Writers by Haim Chertok (1989)

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The Illuminatus! Trilogy

 The Illuminatus! Trilogy! is a series of three novels written by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, published in 1975 as a satirical, postmodern, science fiction-influenced adventure story. It contains five "books" broken into three parts: The Eye In The Pyramid (first two books), The Golden Apple (third and part of fourth book), Leviathan (part of fourth and all of fifth book, and appendices). It also has an appendix.

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 * April 24 - Objectivity is presumably the opposite of schizophrenia. Which means that it is nothing but acceptance of everybody else's notion of reality. But nobody's perception of reality is the same as everybody's notion of it, which means that the most objective person is the real schizophrenic. It is hard to get beyond the accepted beliefs of one's own age. The first man to think a new thought advances it very tentatively. New ideas have to be around a while before anyone will promote them hard. In their first form, they are like tiny, imperceptible mutations that may eventually lead to new species. That's why cultural cross-fertilization is so important. It increases the gene-pool of the imagination. The Arabs, say, have one part of the puzzle. The Franks another. So, when the Knights Templar meet the Hashishin, something new is born. The human race has always lived more or less happily in the kingdom of the blind. But there is an elephant among us. A one-eyed elephant.

 * April 29 - And what the hell does it mean to say that life shouldn't change too rapidly? How fast is evolution? Do you measure it in terms of lifetime? A year is more than a lifetime to many kind of animals, while seventy years is an hour in the lifetime of a sequoia. And the universe is only ten billion years old. How fast do ten billion years go? To a god they might go very fast indeed. They might all happen at once. Suppose the lifetime of your typical basic god was a hundred quintillion years. The whole lifetime of this universe would be to him no more than the amount of time it takes to watch a movie. So, from the point of view of a god or of the universe, things evolve very quickly. It's like one of those Walt Disney films where you watch a plant growing before your eyes and the whole cycle from bud to fruit takes about two minutes. To a god, life is a single organism proliferating in all directions all over the earth, and now on the moon and Mars, and the whole process from the first of the protobionts to George Dorn and fellow humans takes no longer than

 * The most thoroughly and relentlessly Damned, banned, excluded, condemned, forbidden, ostracized, ignored, suppressed, repressed, robbed, brutalized and defamed of all Damned things is the individual human being. The social engineers, statisticians, psychologists, sociologists, market researchers, landlords, bureaucrats, captains of industry, bankers, governors, commissars, kings and presidents are perpetually forcing this Damned Thing into carefully prepared blueprints and perpetually irritated that the Damned Thing will not fit into the slot assigned to it. The theologians call it a sinner and tries to reform it. The governor calls it a criminal and tries to punish it. The psychotherapist calls it neurotic and tries to cure it. Still, the Damned Thing will not fit into their slots.

 * "A is not A," Hagbard explained with that tiresome patience of his, "Once you accept A is A, you're hooked. Literally hooked, addicted to the System." I caught the references to Aristotle, the old man of the tribe with his unfortunate epistemological paresis, and also to that feisty lady I always imagine is really lost Anastasia, but I still didn't grok. "What do you mean?" I asked, grabbing a wet handkerchief as some of the teargas started to drift to our end of the park. "Chairman Mao didn't say half of it," Hagbard replied holding a handkerchief to his own face. His words came through muffled; "It isn't only political power that grows out of the barrel of a gun. So does the whole definition of reality. A set. And the action that has to happen on that particular set and on none other." "Don't be so bloody patronizing," I objected, looking around a corner in time and realizing that night I would be Maced. "That's just Marx: the ideology of the ruling class becomes the ideology of the whole society." "Not the ideology. The Reality." He lowered his handkerchief. "This was a public park until they changed the definition. Now, the guns have changed the Reality. It isn't a public park. There's more than one kind of magic." "Just like Enclosure Acts," I said hollowly. "One day the land belongs to the people. The next day it belongs to the landlords." "And like the Narcotic Acts," he added. "A hundred thousands harmless junkies became criminals overnight, by Act of Congress, in 1927. Ten years later, in '37, all the pot-heads in the country became criminals overnight, by Act of Congress. And they were criminals, when the papers were signed. The guns prove it. Walk away from those guns, waving a joint, and refuse to halt when they tell you. Their Imagination will become your Reality in a second." And I had my answer to Dad, finally, just as a cop jumped out of the darkness screaming something about freaking motherfucking fag commies and Maced me, as was certain to happen (I knew it as I crumbled in pain) on that set.

 * If you whistle while you're pissing, you have two minds, where one is quite sufficient. If you have two minds, you are at war with yourself. If you are at war with yourself, it is easy for an external force to defeat you. This is why Mong-tse wrote. "A man must destroy himself before others can destroy him."

 * In a previous incarnation, Harry saw himself as as centurion, Semper Cuni Linctus, driving the nails into the cross. "Look," he said to Jesus, "nothing personal. I'm only following orders." "So am I." Jesus said, "My Father's orders. Aren't we all?"

 * That was a simple riddle used by Zen Masters in the training of monks, Joe remembered. You take a newborn gosling and slip it through the neck of a bottle. Month after month you keep it in there and feed it, until it is a fullgrown goose and can no longer be passed through the bottles neck. The question is: Without breaking the bottle, how do you get the goose out?

 * "You never disappoint me." Hagbard said. "If they ever hang you, you'll be arguing about whether the rope really exists until the last minute."

 * Feeling paranoid? Good: illumination is on the other side of absolute terror. And the only terror that is truly absolute is the horror of realising that you can't believe anything you've ever been told. You have to realise fully that you are "a stranger and afraid in a world you never made," like Houseman said.

 * "You look blank, Joe," said Malaclypse. "Has no one explained to you that the human race is divided into two distinct genotypes - neophobes, who reject new ideas and accept only what they have known all their lives, and neophiles, who love new things, change, invention, innovation? For the first four million years of man's history, all humans were neophobes, which is why civilization did not develop. Animals are all neophobes. Only mutation can change them. Instinct is simply the natural behavior of a neophobe. The neophile mutation appeared about a hundred thousand years ago, and speeded up thirty thousand years ago. However, there has never been more than a handful of neophiles anywhere on the planet. The Illuminati themselves sprang from one of the oldest neophile-neophobe conflicts on record."

 * "Well, sir," said Cartwright "my basic finding is that life energy pervades the entire universe, just as light and gravity do. Therefor, all life is one, just as all light is one. All energies, you see, are broadcast from a central source, yet to be found. If our four amino acids - adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine - suddenly became life when you throw them together, then all chemicals are potentially alive. You and me and the fish and bugs are that kind of life made from adenine, cytosine, guanine, and thymine: DNA life. What we call dead matter is another kind of life: non-DNA life. Okay so far? If awareness is life, and if life is one, then the awareness of the individual is just one of the universe's sensory organs. The universe produces beings like us in order to perceive itself. You might think of it as a giant, selfcontained eye. Consciousness is therefor also manifested as telepathy, clairvoyance, and telekinesis. Those phenomena are simply non-localized versiosn of consciousness. I'm very interested in telepathy, and I've had a lot of succes with telepathic research. These cases of communication are just further evidence that consciousness is a seamless web throughout the universe."

 * "He [Hegel] is perfect... Unlike Kant, who makes sense only in German, this man doesn't make sense in any language.

 * Correctly formulated, the Law [of Fives] is: All phenomena are directly or indirectly related to the number five, and this relationship can always be demonstrated, given enough ingenuity on the part of the demonstrator.

Book One: Verwirrung

 * How do we know whether the Universe is getting bigger or the objects in it are getting smaller? You can't say that the universe is getting bigger is relation to anything outside it, because there isn't any outside for it to relate to. There isn't any outside. But if the universe doesn't have an out-side, then it goes on forever. How do you know it doesn't, shithead? You're just playing with words, man. -No I'm not. The universe is the inside without an outside, the sound made by one eye opening. In fact, I don't even know that there is a universe. More likely, there are many multiverses, each with its own dimensions, times, spaces, laws and eccentricities. We wander between and among these multiverses, trying to convince others and ourselves that we walk together in a single public universe that we can share. For to deny that axiom leads to what is called schizophrenia. Yeah, that's it: every man's skin is his own private multiverse, just like every man's home is supposed to be his castle. But all the multiverses are trying to merge, to create a true universe such as we have only imagined previously. Maybe it will be spiritual, like Zen or telepathy, or maybe it will be physical, one great big gang-fuck, but it has to happen: the creation of a universe and the one great eye opening to see itself at last. Aum Shiva! -Oh, man, you're stoned out of your gourd. You're writing gibberish. No, I'm writing with absolute clarity, for the first time in my life. -Yeah? Well what was that business about the universe being the sound of one eye opening? Never mind that. Who the hell are you and how did you get into my head?
 * The First Trip, or Kether: From Dealey Plaza to Watergate

 * THINK FOR YOURSELF, SCHMUCK!
 * The Second Trip, or Chokmah: Hopalong Horus Rides Again
 * The phrase is repeated later in the trilogy.

Book Two: Zweitracht

 * "Everybody is crazy," Saul said patiently, "if you don't understand his motives."
 * The Fourth Trip, or Chesed: Jesus Christ on a Bicycle

 * Only the madman is ever sure.
 * The Fourth Trip, or Chesed: Jesus Christ on a Bicycle

Book Three: Unordnung

 * You cannot understand a man's actions unless you understand his beliefs.
 * The Sixth Trip, or Tipareth (The Man Who Murdered God)

The Appendices

 * If you have any answers, We will be glad to provide full and detailed questions.
 * Appendix Yod: Operation Mindfuck

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Jiang Zemin

Jiang Zemin (17 August 1926 – 30 November 2022) was the General Secretary of the Communist Party of China (1989-2002) and the President of the People's Republic of China (1993-2003).

1990s

 * I don't think this man was killed by the tank. I can't confirm whether this young man you mentioned was arrested or not. I think that he was never killed.
 * When asked about Tank Man of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests during an interview with Barbara Walters, as quoted in "The Tank Man" (1990), PBS.

2000s

 * A review of our party's seventy-plus-year history elicits an important conclusion. Our party earned the people's support during the historical periods of revolution, construction and reform because it always represented the requirements for developing China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. The party also earned popular support because it fought tirelessly to realize the fundamental interests of the country and the people by formulating a correct line, principles and policies. Today, humanity once again stands at the beginning of a new century and a new millennium. How our party can better effectuate the Three Represents under the new historical conditions is a major issue all Party comrades, especially high-ranking party cadres, must consider deeply.
 * Three Represents (25 February 2000).

 * The Communist Party of China should represent the development trends of advanced productive forces, the orientations of an advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the.
 * Three Represents (25 February 2000), introduced by Jiang Zemin, as quoted in

 * We want to learn from the west about science and technology and how to manage the economy, but this must be combined with specific conditions here. That's how we have made great progress in the last twenty years.
 * As quoted in "Jiang Zemin Talks With Wallace" (August 2000), CBS.

 * He was never arrested. I don't know where he is now.
 * When asked about Tank Man of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests during an interview with Mike Wallace, as quoted in "China's Leader Talks To 60 Minutes" (31 August 2000), CBS.

 * You are very familiar with western ways, but you are too young. You go everywhere to follow the big news, but the questions you ask are too simple — sometimes naïve. Understand, or not?
 * Leader of China Angrily Chastises Hong Kong Media (October 2000). Also quoted as All over the world, wherever you go to, you always run faster than western journalists. But the questions you keep asking are too simple, sometimes naïve.

 * This experience and the historical experiences gained by the Party since its founding can be summarized as follows: Our Party must always represent the requirements for developing China's advanced productive forces, the orientation of China's advanced culture and the fundamental interests of the overwhelming majority of the Chinese people. These are the inexorable requirements for maintaining and developing socialism, and the logical conclusion our Party has reached through hard exploration and great praxis.
 * Work report at the Communist Party of China Congress (8 November 2002), as quoted in Selected Works of Jiang Zemin, Eng. ed., FLP, Beijing, 2013, Vol. III, p. 519.

"Too simple, sometimes naïve"
On 27 October 2000, Hong Kong reporters attended Jiang's press conference. Questions were raised by Sharon Cheung over the re-election campaign of Tung Chee-hwa, then Chief Executive of Hong Kong.

(Transcript below were translation from Mandarin, words originally spoken in English are bold while in Cantonese are italic)

 * Cheung: President Jiang, do you think it’ll be good for Mr. Tung to serve another consecutive term?
 * Jiang: That’ll be good!
 * Reporter: Does the Central Government support him too?
 * Jiang: Of course yes!
 * Cheung: Then why mentioning it so early? Is there any other candidate?
 * Cheung: Recently the European Union has published a report... er... saying that Beijing will influence and interfere the rule-of-law in Hong Kong in some ways. What's your response to that?
 * Jiang: Never heard before.
 * Cheung: It’s Chris Patten who said that.
 * Jiang: Chris Patten... You the media should always bear in mind, don't "say it's the rain by just seeing the wind" [the idiom means "believing just by seeing"]. You [the media] should judge by yourselves after you have received the sources, got it? In case you say these things out of thin air for him, you may share the responsibility in some way.
 * Cheung: President Jiang, now in such an early time, you said that you supported Mr. Tung. Will that give people the impression that there is already an internal decision or had imperially appointed [or "handpicked"] Mr. Tung?
 * Jiang: There's no such implication whatsoever. Everything should be done in accordance with Hong Kong Basic Law and the election laws.
 * Cheung: But can you...
 * Jiang: Replying what you've just asked me, I can say "no comment." But you guys wouldn't be happy. So what should I do?
 * Cheung: Then Mr. Tung...
 * Jiang: What I said does not mean I imperially appointed him to serve the next term. You asked me whether I support him or not, I support him. I can tell you explicitly.
 * Cheung: President Jiang...
 * Jiang: You all... My feeling is that you the media need to learn more. You are very familiar with the Western set of values, but after all you are too young. Do you understand what I mean? Let me tell you, I've been through hundreds of battles. I've seen a lot. Which country in the West have I not been to? Every time... You should know Mike Wallace in the US. He's way above you all! He and I talked cheerfully and humorously, which is why the media need to raise your intellectual level. Got it or not?
 * Cheung: President Jiang...
 * Jiang: I'm anxious for you all, truly. You really... I... You guys are good at one thing. Wherever you go to all over the world, you always run faster than Western journalists. But the questions you keep asking are too simple, sometimes naïve. Understand or not?
 * Cheung: President Jiang, do you think...
 * Jiang: Got it or not?
 * Jiang: I'm very sorry. Today I am speaking to you as an elder. I am not a journalist. But I've seen too much. I have this necessity to tell you a bit of my life experience.
 * Reporters: But could you say why you support Tung Chee-hwa?
 * Jiang: I just... I just wanted to... that is every time I meet you all, I say, in Chinese we have saying, "make a fortune quietly." If I had said nothing, that would have been the best. But I thought I've seen all of you so enthusiastic. If I said nothing, that wouldn't be good. So, a moment ago you just insisted... In spreading the news, if your reports are inaccurate, you must be responsible. I did not say I am imperially appointing [Tung]. No such meaning. But you insisted on asking me whether I supported Mr. Tung or not. He is still the current Chief Executive. How could we not support the Chief Executive? Isn't it.
 * Reporters: But what about re-election?
 * Jiang: To serve another term, you must follow the law of Hong Kong, isn't it? You should follow Hong Kong's... Of course, our right to make the decision is also very important. Hong Kong SAR... Special Administrative Region belongs to the Central Government of China... People's Republic [People's Republic of China]. When it gets to the right time, we'll let you know our decision.
 * Reporters: But...
 * Jiang: Understand what I say? You all. Don't try to... make it a big piece of news, saying that "he has already been imperially appointed" and criticize me.
 * Reporters: Well no, but...
 * Jiang: You all! Naive!
 * Reporters: But, that is...
 * Security: Ok, ok...
 * Jiang: I'm angry! Let me tell you, it's not okay to be like this [annoying behaviour].
 * Security: Ok, ok, ok. Everyone please leave.
 * Jiang: Perhaps I just offend you today!

As quoted in "Former president Jiang Zemin unleashes a long tirade after a Hong Kong reporter asks him if Beijing had issued an "imperial order" to support Tung Chee-hwa in his bid to seek a second term as Chief Executive" (October 2014), Facebook and 江泽民怒斥香港记者完全版 - Youtube

Quotes about

 * After my speech, the President detached himself from the group of appalling old waxworks who accompanied him and took his place at the lectern. He then gave a kind of "propaganda" speech which was loudly cheered by the bussed-in party faithful at the suitable moment in the text.
 * Charles III, Entry in private journal about the handover of British sovereignty in Hong Kong in 1997 referring to President Jiang Zemin of China; as quoted in "Appalling waxworks", by Katie Nicholl and Dominic Turnbull Mail on Sunday (13 November 2005) p. 1

 * The elderly Deng was confident that no jeopardy existed for his strategy, and he stepped down from his burdensome offices in November 1989 while retaining the unofficial power of general political oversight. His protégé Jiang Zemin became leader. The process of economic reform slowed for a while. But Deng’s tour of southern provinces in 1992 revived it, and China’s transformation quickened again. Private companies sprang up in all cities and many villages. The most dynamic zones lay along the Pacific coast. Investment poured in from abroad. Multinational companies long excluded from Chinese industry and commerce set up in Beijing, Shanghai and Guanzhou. Gross domestic product rose exponentially as private enterprise from home and abroad injected the most up-to-date technology into an industrial sector which offered a cheap, educated, co-operative and disciplined labour force. By 2003 China share of the world’s gross production had risen to 12 per cent.
 * Robert Service, Comrades: A History of World Communism (2010)

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Talk:Alcoholic beverages

These quotes relate to alcoholic beverage. However the link is to alcohol, which is about the chemistry of organic chemical compounds containing the OH group. Can you fix this? Thanks, w:User:Walkerma

Organisation
I wonder whether it would be easier to read if the quotes were separated by for and against. It would make it much easy when researching for alcohol related papers.

Zerakith.

Erm... why was my correction removed?
The correct quote for A.E Housman is "Malt does more than Milton can" not "Scotch does more than Milton can." The quote is presented correctly under the "beer" body of quotes. So you know I'm not just making this up. It's minor, I know, but it makes a difference.

 * Indeed, fixed and sourced. Thanks! BD2412 T 21:53, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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 * I fought against a bottle, but I had to do it drunk
 * Leonard Cohen, Canadian singer, poet and novelist

 * There is scarcely a crime before me that is not directly or indirectly caused by strong drink.
 * John Duke Coleridge

 * The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy says that the effect of a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster is like having your brains smashed out by a slice of lemon wrapped round a large gold brick.
 * Douglas Adams

 * Here's what the Encyclopedia Galactica has to say about alcohol. It says that alcohol is a colourless volatile liquid formed by the fermentation of sugars and also notes its intoxicating effect on certain carbon-based life forms.
 * Douglas Adams

 * One reason I don't drink is that I want to know when I'm having a good time.
 * Nancy Astor

 * The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind.
 * Humphrey Bogart

 * It only takes one drink to get me drunk-- I can just never remember if its the eighth or ninth.
 * George Burns

 * When I sell liquor, it's bootlegging. When my customers serve it on Lake Shore Drive, it's hospitality.
 * Al Capone

 * I drink too much. Way too much. I gave a urine sample, there was an olive in it.
 * Rodney Dangerfield

 * My family was a bunch of drunks. When I was six I came up missing, they put my picture on a bottle of scotch.
 * Rodney Dangerfield

 * Bacchus hath drowned more men than Neptune.
 * Thomas Fuller

 * My manager told me, Mitch, don't use alcohol as a crutch. I can't use alcohol as a crutch because a crutch is something that helps me walk. Alcohol severely fucks up the way I walk. It's more like the step I didn't see.
 * Mitch Hedberg

 * Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut.
 * Ernest Hemingway

 * I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They must have that morning feeling all the time.
 * Dean Martin

 * If you drink, don't drive. Don't even putt.
 * Dean Martin

 * You are not drunk if you can lie on the floor without holding on.
 * Dean Martin

 * An abstainer is the sort of man you wouldn't want to drink with even if he did.
 * George Jean Nathan

 * I drink to make other people interesting.
 * George Jean Nathan

 * Being hungover is like winning the lottery, except they pay you in regret.
 * Ryan North, Dinosaur Comics

 * To alcohol: the cause of --- and solution to --- all of life's problems.
 * Homer J. Simpson from The Simpsons

 * I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel all day.
 * Frank Sinatra

 * Alcohol is the answer... What was the question?
 * The Streets

 * If when you say 'whiskey' you mean the devil's brew, the poison scourge, the bloody monster that defiles innocence, dethrones reason... then I am certainly against it. But, if when you say 'whiskey' you mean the oil of conversation, the philosophic wine... the drink that enables a man to magnify his joy... then I am certainly for it.  This is my stand.  I will not retreat from it.  I will not compromise.
 * Noah Sweat

 * It is all well and good for children and acid freaks to still believe in Santa Claus — but it is still a profoundly morbid day for us working professionals. It is unsettling to know that one out of every twenty people you meet on Xmas will be dead this time next year... Some people can accept this, and some can't. That is why God made whiskey, and also why Wild Turkey comes in $300 shaped canisters during most of the Christmas season.
 * Hunter S. Thompson

 * I wouldn't recommend drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me.
 * Hunter S. Thompson

 * Work is the curse of the drinking classes.
 * Oscar Wilde

 * When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.
 * Henny Youngman

 * My grandmother is over eighty and still doesn't need glasses. Drinks right out of the bottle.
 * Henny Youngman

 * The wine-cup is glad! Dear Zenophile's lip It boasts to have touched when she stooped down to sip. Happy wine-cup! I wish that, with lips joined to mine, All my soul at a draught she would drink up like wine.
 * Acilius

 * When I think of all the people I respect the most, you're right there, serving them drinks.
 * Scott Adams
 * R-e-m-o-r-s-e, Those dry Martinis were too much for me. Last night I really felt immense, To-day I feel like thirty cents; It is no time for mirth and laughter In the cold gray dawn of the morning after.
 * George Ade

 * Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you fight with your neighbour. It makes you shoot at your landlord and it makes you miss him.
 * Irish proverb

 * Everybody has to believe in something... I believe I'll have another drink.
 * W. C. Fields
 * I cook with wine, and sometimes I even add it to the food.
 * W. C. Fields
 * Christmas at my house is always at least six or seven times more pleasant than anywhere else. We start drinking early. And while everyone else is seeing only one Santa Claus, we'll be seeing six or seven.
 * W. C. Fields
 * How well I remember my first encounter with The Devil's Brew. I happened to stumble across a case of bourbon— and went right on stumbling for several days thereafter.
 * W. C. Fields
 * I certainly do not drink all the time. I have to sleep you know.
 * W. C. Fields
 * I exercise extreme self control. I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast.
 * W. C. Fields
 * More people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol.
 * W. C. Fields
 * The cost of living has gone up another dollar a quart.
 * W. C. Fields
 * Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house unless they have a well-stocked bar.
 * W. C. Fields
 * When life hands you lemons, make whisky sours.
 * W. C. Fields
 * Always carry a flagon of whiskey in case of snake bite, and furthermore, always carry a small snake.
 * W. C. Fields

 * They don't want us to drink and drive, but you need a drivers license to buy alcohol and why do bars have parking lots?
 * Bob and Tom in the Morning.

 * You know you have a drinking problem when the bartender knows your name. And you've never been to that bar before.
 * Zach Galifianakis

 * Have you ever been so drunk you wet the bed? Not even sleeping, just standing over, pissing on it?
 * Zach Galifianakis

 * I don't have a drinking problem. I drink, I get drunk, I fall down. No problem!
 * unknown, but included as Dwarven joke from World of Warcraft

 * The only alcohol problem I have is not having any.

 * Wine goes with wine and the two should never part.

 * I drink to forget all the stupid things I do when I'm drunk.

 * There are more old drunkards than there are old doctors.

 * I have an alcohol allergy... Every time I drink, I break out in hand cuffs.

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Talk:Stargate SG-1

Episode unknown or various episodes
Do any of these actually belong here? Other then a couple of O'Neill's, most are rather... inconsequential. Or am I misunderstanding something? The fact that O'Neill has said "Ya think" isn't, in my eyes, notable. But if I'm incorrect, that's why I'm tossin' this on the Talk page. Because I don't rightly know.

Sontra 01:16, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Calling for article monitors
Stargate SG-1 has become a very popular article, with quite a few anonymous and short-term contributors, many of whom are not familiar with the admittedly complex guidelines of Wikiquote TV-show quoting. As is always the case with these articles, there is a need to watch this article to fix formatting problems and to ensure that people are adding pithy quotes, not just scene transcriptions, too-visual or too-aural quotes, and quotes with lots of context that render them useless for someone who hasn't watched the show. (Wikiquote TV-show articles must address a general readership, not just fans of the show who enjoy visualizing the scenes when they re-read the quotes.)

I've done this work informally, periodically, but its popular has well-outstripped my ability to keep up. Are there editors watching this article who are willing to do weeding and cleanup? ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:34, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Splitting
As this is now a 200kb+ article, anyone want to split this into series + front page (containing general items - Oz references for starters - and links to all the others) Palfrey 22:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Not too sure about layout, or the titles for the split off articles (though they have precedent). Also I've left the current season on this page. -- Supermorff 13:27, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I did a hell of a lot of formatting too. FYI, in case someone feels like reverting it. -- Supermorff 13:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I've made a not-insignificant change to the way this page works now. Rather than simply linking to the pages for each season, I've changed it to transclude each season. In short, this means that while each season has its own page (which can be viewed independently, if you wanted), they'll also appear as part of the main page, which makes it easier to see everything in one place. The only thing is that it's a bit unclear what's going on if you edit the main page, because none of the content is actually here. So, it might make sense to move Season 10 page into this page for now, and then move it to its own page only after the season is done, so that there's no need to worry about people being confused when trying to add an episode. —LrdChaos (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Wow. That's very clever. Nice one. -- Supermorff 14:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

humor
Is there a reason why only funny quotes are included? Out of hundreds of quotes, I don't think I saw more than a dozen or so that weren't jokes. This show isn't a comedy. Would it be suitable to add quotes of the dramatic or plot-revealing moments?216.162.240.250 17:42, 6 March 2007 (UTC)Gor
 * There isn't a reason at all. It's just a personal preference when adding the quotes. It just happens to be that people who have edited this page, remembered the funny over the serious. If you want, you can feel free to add serious quotes as well. Curlyro 20:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Wikiquote's focus is collecting quotes that are generally memorable, not just plot-advancing. Many folks mistakenly use articles to describe plot events through quotes, but that's more appropriate for fan and general informational websites. Many editors do indeed favor the humorous quotes, but dramatic quotes are welcome, too. But try to avoid quotes that require inside knowledge of the show, but are instead memorable for a general audience.

 * Also consider that we try to focus on very select quotes that convey the most pithy statements in a work. This is generally true for all works, but even more important for TV shows, which are copyrighted and so must have only a few of the "best" quotes from any episode to attempt to stay within "fair use" legal restrictions. (I use the rule of thumb of 3-5 per episode, with only rare episodes having as many as 8.) We also try to avoid quoting entire scenes. Quotes should be pithy; i.e., short and full of meaning on their own.

 * I hope this information is useful. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 20:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Links
Many links of this page goes to Stargate Wikia. Is there a reason not to make them go to Wikipedia (especially the characters)?--Dr Zimbu 13:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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David Blanchflower

David Graham Blanchflower (born 2 March 1952) is a British-American labour economist and academic. He is a former member of the Bank of England's Monetary Policy Committee.

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 * Retirement should be a happier time, conditioned upon not being ill.#
 * OC Register

 * People are treated for mental disorders, they go back to work and they earn wages again. We can see how their earnings go up. But how do they feel about themselves and the world? That has a value.
 * Reuters article 22 March 2006

 * We usually think that a strong economy leads to an increase in life satisfaction among the population. We found that's not the case in Scotland.
 * Dartmouth College news release 30 July 2004

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Talk:Invention

Reference
Please show me the true reference in Gulliver's Travels to the quote "Discovery consists of seeing what everybody has seen and thinking what nobody else has thought."

In the mean time I will update the source of this quote, also using the original preposition "in"

Below is someone's original source. See Gulliver's Travels for many online seachable versions of the text. Jonathan Swift, Gulliver's Travels (pt. III, ch. V, Voyage to Laputa)

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 * All of the biggest technological inventions created by man - the airplane, the automobile, the computer - says little about his intelligence, but speaks volumes about his laziness.
 * Mark Kennedy

 * Creativity is inventing, experimenting, growing, taking risks, breaking rules, making mistakes, and having fun.
 * Mary Lou Cook

 * Discovery consists in seeing what everybody has seen, and thinking what nobody has thought.
 * Albert Szent-Györgyi

 * Electric telegraphs, printing, gas, Tobacco, balloons, and steam, Are little events that have come to pass Since the days of the old regime. And, spite of Lempriere's dazzling page, I'd give--though it might seem bold--A hundred years of the Golden Age For a year of the Age of Gold.
 * Henry S. Leigh, in The Two Ages.

 * The golden hour of invention must terminate like other hours, and when the man of genius returns to the cares, the duties, the vexations, and the amusements of life, his companions behold him as one of themselves--the creature of habits and infirmities.
 * Isaac D'Israeli, Literary Character of Men of Genius (ch. XVI).

 * Humanity is acquiring all the right technology for all the wrong reasons.
 * R. Buckminster Fuller

 * I do not think there is any thrill that can go through the human heart like that felt by the inventor as he sees some creation of the brain unfolding to success.
 * Nikola Tesla 1896, inventor of alternating current

 * Invention is the mother of necessity.
 * Thorstein Veblen US economist & social philosopher (1857 - 1929).

 * It is questionable if all the mechanical inventions yet made have lightened the day's toil of any human being.
 * John Stuart Mill

 * Lo! Men have become the tools of their tools.
 * Henry David Thoreau

 * Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
 * Bible Ecclesiastes (ch. VII, v. 29).

 * The machine does not isolate man from the great problems of nature but plunges him more deeply into them.
 * Antoine de Saint Exupéry Terre des Hommes (Wind, Sand, and Stars) (1939).

 * Opportunity is missed by most people because it's dressed in overalls and looks like work.
 * Thomas Edison

 * Probably the earliest flyswatters were nothing more than some sort of striking surface attached to the end of a long stick.
 * Jack Handy

 * The production of too many useful things results in too many useless people.
 * Karl Marx

 * Soon silence will have passed into legend. Man has turned his back on silence.  Day after day he invents machines and devices that increase noise and distract humanity from the essence of life, contemplation, meditation...tooting, howling, screeching, booming, crashing, whistling, grinding, and trilling bolster his ego.  His anxiety subsides.  His inhuman void spreads monstrously like a gray vegetation.
 * Jean Arp

 * Technological progress has merely provided us with more efficient means for going backwards.
 * Aldous Huxley

 * Technology... the knack of so arranging the world that we don't have to experience it.
 * Max Frisch

 * What the country needs are a few labor-making inventions.
 * Arnold Glasow

 * Everything that could have been invented has been patented.
 * Oscar Burke

 * The most amazing and effective inventions are not those which do most honor to the human genius.
 * Voltaire

 * Invention starts by a spark in the gap between laziness and exuberance.
 * Shimon Shmueli

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Jane Eyre: The Musical

Jane Eyre: The Musical (2000), based on the novel by Charlotte Brontë. Music and lyrics by Paul Gordon, book and additional lyrics by John Caird.

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 * When all she wants to do is...fly. Over mountains, over oceans, how her restlessness stirs. For she longs for her liberty, when will liberty be hers?
 * Jane Eyre

 * She saves me when I can't be saved, frees me but I'm still enslaved. Now I battle what I most adore. Oh, let me sail away, get lost at sea and make this vow: what my heart wants I will not allow. For as the sirens call the sailors, she calls to me.
 * Mr. Rochester

 * There's no sight so sad, no stench so bad, as that of a naughty girl. No crime so grave, as children who misbehave. When a girl can't be saved, God hears her plea, but he leaves her soul...to me!
 * Mr. Brocklehurst

 * Love is like a virus, we're infected with. You're so naive. Wouldn't it be wonderful if life were just as you perceived? Women are inhuman...worthless...course and savage, on the average. Never to be trusted, completely maladjusted....it's true. But if I had thought things through...I might have been as good...as you."
 * Edward Fairfax Rochester

 * Jane Eyre...why don't you just kill yourself?
 * John Reed

 * Jane, there is a place for you. And, Jane, it is here with me, to live in this house, to stand as my wife. Jane, you are my second self, and Jane, don't you see the truth that you are the heart of my life!
 * Mr. Rochester

 * Jane, I've been dealt a blow. I've been dealt a blow, Jane!
 * Mr. Rochester

 * When I lay myself down to sleep tonight I pray I might know why God has tempered judgment not with mercy, but with sorrow. Let the world forsake me, let them do their worst, I will withstand it all, they will not break me. There is another world that watches us, I'm not afraid.
 * Young Jane and Jane Eyre

 * She found me handsome, my opera dancer. And like a fool I believed it was true I held the world inside my hands, a man full in his prime, when she left me for another, pierced my heart a second time.
 * Mr. Rochester

 * I cannot sleep. I cannot breathe. I cry his tears. I sense the secrets of his past. I feel his fears.
 * Jane Eyre

 * Orphan, orphan, parents dead! Stupid, stupid in the head! Ugly, ugly, ugly face! Why don't you learn to know your PLACE!
 * John Reed

title: Jane Eyre: The Musical


text:
James C. Nelson

James C. Nelson (born February 20, 1944) is a justice on the Montana Supreme Court.

Quotes

 * I fear that, eventually, we are all going to become collateral damage in the war on drugs, or terrorism, or whatever war is in vogue at the moment.
 * Concurring opinion in Montana v. Pelvit (No. 03-572) (2005)

title: James C. Nelson