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Definition of cultural hegemony

 * Cultural hegemony is the idea that the dominant ideology of society—the beliefs, explanations, perceptions, values and morals—reflects that of the ruling class. The dominant ideology justifies the social, political and economic status quo as natural, inevitable, perpetual and beneficial for everyone, rather than as artificial social constructs that benefit only the ruling class.
 * Quote attributed to Gramsci, e.g. here, no source found

“To tell the truth is revolutionary”

 * Section added. Nbarth 23:18, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

"To tell the truth is revolutionary." is not a Gramsci's sentence. He put it on the frontpage of his paper but I think the author is German socialist Lassalle--131.114.116.44 11:50, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Long March?
One of the quotes most attributed to Gramsci (in English) is “long march through the institutions” – also rendered as “long march through the culture” or “slow march”. Though this is frequently quoted, I am unable to find a reference – any assistance?

In Italian, “” is “lunga marcia”, while “slow” is “lenta”, and “through institutions” is “nelle istituzioni”, I believe. However, searching on any combination of these does not seem to give primary references.

For now I’ve listed the quote in “Unsourced”.
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:29, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

 * For example, Gramsci is quoted in
 * Patrick J. Buchanan, Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization (New York: St. Martin’s Press/Thomas Dunne Books, 2001), p. 77.
 * though it does not give a reference.
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 23:55, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Turns out the quote is instead misattributed – that’s what the editor of the English language critical edition of the Prison Notebooks says, which is as authoritative as you can get. (That explains why I couldn’t find it.) I’ve moved it to “Misattributed” and given a citation.
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 04:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Ok, the quote is clearly due to, originally „Der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen“. The German Wikipedia article Marsch durch die Institutionen elaborates this and is extensively referenced. I’ve corrected the page to make this clear.

For reference, some other discussion of use and attribution which would but bloat the main page:
 * The phrase is associated with the (PCI); see citations in Encounter, Volume 50, 1978, pp. 20 & 22, notably with.
 * Also attributed to PCI by in 1983; see Italian Communist Blueprint for European Unity. In these references, the institutions in question are European institutions, in the form of the early.
 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 07:37, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Likely false quote
On many websites, this quote is attributed to Gramsci: "Socialism will triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society." Searching google books for specific phrases like "infiltration of schools, universities, churches" turns up only a few examples of books and journals that clearly include the quote, but they either give no citation or only cite articles that themselves lack any citation to Gramsci's writings (for example, this book attributes it to this article, and this journal attributes it to this article). What's more, searching for some other phrases, I found a quote from a 1999 novel called The Master Plan by Al Duncan, a Christian "End Times" story along the lines of  Left Behind, in which a character describes how an Illuminati-like group called "The Elites" had achieved power: "They triumphed by capturing the culture via subversion of schools, universities, churches, the media, and other societal and religious institutions." (p. 86 of the kindle edition) Needless to say, Gramsci is not mentioned anywhere in the novel, and I haven't found any examples of the similar quote being attributed to Gramsci before 1999. Hypnosifl (talk) 20:05, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

 * Looks like that book was quoting an earlier 1996 "non-fiction" book called Unholy Alliances: The Secret Plan And The Secret People Who Are Working To Destroy America, discussed in this tweet thread, which says 'The book is a standard Freemasonic-Vatican-New World Order conspiracy theory tract'. The book mixed a Gramsci quote with the author's own summary, which later authors incorporated into the fake quote: Radical leftist Antonio Gramsci in May 1916 remarked: "Socialism is precisely the religion that must overwhelm Christianity." In The New Order, Marxist Gramsci explained that Socialism would triumph by first capturing the culture via infiltration of schools, universities, churches and the media by transforming the consciousness of society. Hypnosifl (talk) 23:04, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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 * The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without becoming disillusioned.

 * Only they who can keep their heart strong and their will as sharp as a sword when the general disillusionment is at its worst can be regarded as a fighter for the working class or called a revolutionary.

 * I hate the indifferent. I believe that living means taking sides. Those who really live cannot help being a citizen and a partisan. Indifference and apathy are parasitism, perversion, not life. That is why I hate the indifferent.

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Dreamachine

The Dreamachine was invented by Beat generation members Brion Gysin and Ian Sommerville in 1959. The machine flashes light in order to stimulate the optical nerve in the eye, which in turn helps to relax the brain.

About the Dreamachine

 * "I have made a simple flicker machine. You look at it with your eyes shut and the flicker plays over your eyelids. Visions start with a kaleidoscope of colours on a plane in front of the eyes and gradually become more complex and beautiful, breaking like surf on a shore until whole patterns of colour are pounding to get in. After a while the visions were permanently behind my eyes and I was in the middle of the whole scene with limitless patterns being generated around me. There was an almost unbearable feeling of spatial movement for a while but it was well worth getting through, for I found that when it stopped I was high above earth in an universal blaze of glory.  Afterwards I found that my perception of the world around me had increased very notably. All conceptions of being dragged or tired had dropped away..."—Ian Sommerville, in a letter to Brion Gysin. February 15th, 1960

 * "Initially I observed, in sweeping, panoramic vision, a perpetually metamorphosing Persian rug. A few minutes later these patterns segued into cinematic images from childhood—it was kind of like watching home movies."—David Woodard, interviewed in LA Weekly (July 26 - August 1, 1996)

 * "Flicker may prove to be a valid instrument of practical psychology: some people see and others do not. The Dreamachine with its patterns visible to the open eyes, induces people to see. The fluctuating elements of flickered design support the development of autonomous 'movies', intensely pleasurable and, possibly, instructive to the viewer."—Brion Gysin

 * "You are the artist when you approach a Dreamachine with your eyes closed. What the Dreamachine incites you to see is yours... your own. The brilliant interior visions you so suddenly see whirling around inside your head are produced by your own brain activity. These may not be your first glimpse of these dazzling lights and celestial coloured images. Dreamachines provide them only just as long as you choose to look into them. What you are seeing is perhaps a broader vision than you may have had before of your own incalculable treasure, the "jungian" sort of symbols which we share with all normally constituted humanity. From this storehouse, artists and artisans have drawn the elements of art down the ages. In the rapid flux of images, you will immediately recognise crosses, stars, haloes... woven patterns like pre-Columbian textiles and Islamic rugs... repetitive patterns on ceramic tile... in embroideries of all times... rapidly fluctuating serial images of abstract art... what look like endless expanses of fresh paint laid on a palette knife."—Brion Gysin

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Edmund Hillary

Sir Edmund Percival Hillary (20 July 1919 – 11 January 2008) was a New Zealand mountaineer, explorer, and philanthropist. On 29 May 1953, Hillary and Nepalese Sherpa mountaineer Tenzing Norgay became the first climbers confirmed to have reached the summit of Mount Everest.

Quotes

 * My solar plexus was tight with fear as I ploughed on. Halfway up I stopped, exhausted. I could look down 10,000 feet between my legs, and I have never felt more insecure. Anxiously I waved Tenzing up to me.
 * High Adventure : The True Story of the First Ascent of Everest (1955)

 * Well, we knocked the bastard off!
 * Hillary's comment to George Lowe, after his successful ascent of Mt Everest, as he and Tenzing Norgay were descending from the summit. (29 May 1953); as recounted in Nothing Venture, Nothing Win (1975) Ch. 10; also recounted as "Well George, we’ve knocked the bastard off." as quoted by Jan Morris in "Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay" for Time magazine (14 June 1999)

 * I am hell-bent for the South Pole — God willing and crevasses permitting.
 * Comment (28 December 1957) eight days before he reached the South Pole as part of the Commonwealth Trans-Antarctic Expedition, as quoted in news summaries (5 January 1958)

 * Better if he had said something natural like, "Jesus, here we are."
 * On Neil Armstrong’s famous first words on stepping on the surface of the moon, "That’s one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind." The Sunday Times [London] (21 July 1974)

 * I’ve always hated the danger part of climbing, and it’s great to come down again because it’s safe … But there is something about building up a comradeship — that I still believe is the greatest of all feats — and sharing in the dangers with your company of peers. It’s the intense effort, the giving of everything you’ve got. It’s really a very pleasant sensation.
 * Statement of 1977 as quoted in "Sir Edmund Hillary, a Pioneering Conquerer of Everest, Dies at 88" in The New York Times (online edition) (10 January 2008)

 * It was too late to take risks now. I asked Tenzing to belay me strongly, and I started cutting a cautious line of steps up the ridge. Peering from side to side and thrusting with my ice axe, I tried to discover a possible cornice, but everything seemed solid and firm. I waved Tenzing up to me. A few more whacks of the ice–ax, a few very weary steps, and we were on the summit of Everest. It was 11:30 AM. My first sensation was one of relief — relief that the long grind was over, that the summit had been reached before our oxygen supplies had dropped to a critical level; and relief that in the end the mountain had been kind to us in having a pleasantly rounded cone for its summit instead of a fearsome and unapproachable cornice. But mixed with the relief was a vague sense of astonishment that I should have been the lucky one to attain the ambition of so many brave and determined climbers. I seemed difficult to grasp that we'd got there. I was too tired and too conscious of the long way down to safety really to feel any great elation. But as the fact of our success thrust itself more clearly into my mind, I felt a quiet glow of satisfaction spread through my body — a satisfaction less vociferous but more powerful than I had ever felt on a mountain top before. I turned and looked at Tenzing. Even beneath his oxygen mask and the icicles hanging form his hair, I could see his infectious grin of sheer delight. I held out my hand, and in silence we shook in good Anglo-Saxon fashion. But this was not enough for Tenzing, and impulsively he threw his arm around my shoulders and we thumped each other on the back in mutual congratulations.
 * "Adventure's End" in The Norton Book of Sports (1992) edited by George Plimpton, p. 85

 * Tenzing had been waiting patiently, but now, at my request, he unfurled the flags wrapped around his ice–axe and standing at the summit, held them above his head. Clad in all his bulky equipment and with the flags flapping furiously in the wind, he made a dramatic picture, and the thought drifted through my mind that this photograph should be a good one if it came out at all. I didn't worry about getting Tenzing to take a photograph of me — as far as I knew, he had never taken a photograph before, and the summit of Everest was hardly the place to show him how.
 * On the photograph of Sherpa guide Tenzing Norgay at the summit of Everest, in "Adventure's End" in The Norton Book of Sports (1992) edited by George Plimpton, p. 86

 * Reaching the summit of a mountain gives great satisfaction, but nothing for me has been more rewarding in life than the result of our climb on Everest, when we have devoted ourselves to the welfare of our Sherpa friends.
 * As quoted in Great Climbs: A Celebration of World Mountaineering (1994) by Sir Chris Bonington

 * While standing on top of Everest, I looked across the valley, towards the other great peak, Makalu, and mentally worked out a route about how it could be climbed… it showed me that, even though I was standing on top of the world, it wasn’t the end of everything for me, by any means. I was still looking beyond to other interesting challenges.
 * Foreword to Peak Performance : Business Lessons from the World's Top Sports Organizations (2000) by Clive Gibson, Mike Pratt, Kevin Roberts and Ed Weymes.

 * Having just paid our respects to the highest mountain in the world, I then had no choice but to urinate on it.
 * View from the Summit Simon and Shuster (2000) pp 15-16 [orig pub 1999]. Also (slightly misquoted) in Thinker, Failure, Soldier, Jailer Aurum Press (2012) p 22 ed. Harry de Quetteville.
 * You don't have to be a fantastic hero to do certain things — to compete. You can be just an ordinary chap, sufficiently motivated to reach challenging goals. The intense effort, the giving of everything you've got, is a very pleasant bonus.
 * As quoted in 1000 Brilliant Achievement Quotes (2004) by David Deford, p. 4

 * Nobody climbs mountains for scientific reasons. Science is used to raise money for the expeditions, but you really climb for the hell of it.
 * As quoted in Wise Guys : Brilliant Thoughts and Big Talk from Real Men (2005) by Allan Zullo, p. 5

 * I think the whole attitude towards climbing Mount Everest has become rather horrifying. The people just want to get to the top. They don't give a damn for anybody else who may be in distress and it doesn't impress me at all that they leave someone lying under a rock to die.
 * As quoted in The Age (25 May 2006)

 * On my expedition there was no way that you would have left a man under a rock to die. It simply would not have happened. It would have been a disaster from our point of view. There have been a number of occasions when people have been neglected and left to die and I don’t regard this as a correct philosophy. I am absolutely certain that if any member of our expedition all those years ago had been in that situation we would have made every effort.
 * As quoted in The Tribune (India) (29 May 2006)

 * I am a lucky man. I have had a dream and it has come true, and that is not a thing that happens often to men.
 * As quoted in "Sir Edmund Hillary, a Pioneering Conquerer of Everest, Dies at 88" in The New York Times (online edition) (10 January 2008)

 * I became a Hindu. I was very close to the Hindu ethic. It was a great spiritual experience. ... I believe a man can make his own destiny through his work and effort.
 * Cited in Pioneer, 9 November 1990. Quoted from Elst, Koenraad (1991). Ayodhya and after: Issues before Hindu society.

Sir Edmund Hillary : King Of The World

 * Quotations of Hillary in "Sir Edmund Hillary : King Of The World" in NZEdge

 * Some day I’m going to climb Everest.
 * Statement to a friend just before World War II.

 * In some ways I believe I epitomise the average New Zealander: I have modest abilities, I combine these with a good deal of determination, and I rather like to succeed.

 * We didn’t know if it was humanly possible to reach the top of Mt. Everest. And even using oxygen as we were, if we did get to the top, we weren’t at all sure whether we wouldn’t drop dead or something of that nature.

 * I was very much aware that we still had to get safely back down the mountain again and that was quite an important factor. I really felt the most excitement when we finally got to the bottom of the mountain again and it was all behind us.

 * I was just an enthusiastic mountaineer of modest abilities who was willing to work quite hard and had the necessary imagination and determination. I was just an average bloke; it was the media that transformed me into a heroic figure. And try as I did, there was no way to destroy my heroic image. But as I learned through the years, as long as you didn’t believe all that rubbish about yourself, you wouldn’t come to much harm.

 * The explorers of the past were great men and we should honour them. But let us not forget that their spirit lives on. It is still not hard to find a man who will adventure for the sake of a dream or one who will search, for the pleasure of searching, not for what he may find.

 * I don't know if I particularly want to be remembered for anything. I have enjoyed great satisfaction from my climb of Everest and my trips to the poles. But there's no doubt, either, that my most worthwhile things have been the building of schools and medical clinics. That has given me more satisfaction than a footprint on a mountain.

Disputed

 * People do not decide to become extraordinary. They decide to accomplish extraordinary things.
 * Though widely attributed to Hillary on the Internet, this appears to have originated as a quote about him in a Rolex advertisement.
 * It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves.
 * Though widely attributed to Hillary on the Internet and in several books (e.g. That's Life : Wild Wit & Wisdom (2003) by Bonnie Louise Kuchler, p. 20), this appears to have originated from George Mallory.

Disputed

 * People do not decide to become extraordinary. They decide to accomplish extraordinary things.
 * Though widely attributed to Hillary on the Internet, this appears to have originated as a quote about him in a Rolex advertisement.
 * It is not the mountain we conquer, but ourselves.
 * Though widely attributed to Hillary on the Internet and in several books (e.g. That's Life : Wild Wit & Wisdom (2003) by Bonnie Louise Kuchler, p. 20), this appears to have originated from George Mallory.

Quotes about Hillary

 * Hillary has climbed to the top of the world. He has put the British race and New Zealand on top of the world.
 * Keith Holyoake, as quoted in Edmund Hillary - A Biography, by Michael Gill

 * The beekeeper and the Sherpa, one from a remote former colony of the Crown on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, the other from the edge of the heavens. They affirmed the power of humble determination and, placing themselves firmly with the mythic paradigms of their respective cultures, won one for the underdogs. … On this lonely planet of freeze dried food, computer generated fabrics and commercialised mountain climbing, it is almost impossible to imagine the earth-shaking impact that Hillary and Norgay’s achievement had in 1953. For many it represented the last of the earth’s great challenges. It placed Hillary in the lineage of great terrestrial explorers. … His achievement as one of mankind’s great accomplishments came at one of the last times in history when such a feat could still be recognised as a distinctly human one, and not technological. … Hillary’s near-mythical status puts him on a plateau above sporting heroes, for he has distinguished himself well beyond the singularity of a mountain. From a feat that would have been the crowning achievement of many careers, he has gone on to become a humanitarian, an ambassador and elder statesman, never giving up, never giving in to either despair or complacency, always planning the next goal.
 * "Sir Edmund Hillary : King Of The World" a brief biography in NZEdge

 * The Sherpa gasped out as they mounted the slope, "Our troubles are only commencing!" Said Sir Edmund, "You're tired and nervous, relax - You'll nEverest if you're Tensing."
 * Gardner E. Lewis, Poem, Neither Hilláryous Norgay (1953), quoted in The Fireside Book of Humorous Poetry edited by William Cole, 1959 (p. 388).

 * Geography was not furthered by the achievement, scientific progress was scarcely hastened, and nothing new was discovered. Yet the names of Hillary and Tenzing went instantly into all languages as the names of heroes, partly because they really were men of heroic mold but chiefly because they represented so compellingly the spirit of their time.
 * Jan Morris in "Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay" in Time magazine (14 June 1999)

 * The real point of mountain climbing, as of most hard sports, is that it voluntarily tests the human spirit against the fiercest odds, not that it achieves anything more substantial — or even wins the contest, for that matter. For the most part, its heroism is of a subjective kind. It was the fate of Hillary and Tenzing, though, to become very public heroes indeed, and it was a measure of the men that over the years they truly grew into the condition. Perhaps they thought that just being the first to climb a hill was hardly qualification for immortality; perhaps they instinctively realized destiny had another place for them. For they both became, in the course of time, representatives not merely of their particular nations but of half of humanity. Astronauts might justly claim that they were envoys of all humanity; Hillary and Tenzing, in a less spectacular kind, came to stand for the small nations of the world, the young ones, the tucked-away and the up-and-coming.
 * Jan Morris in "Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay" in Time magazine (14 June 1999)

 * I liked these men very much when I first met them on the mountain nearly a half-century ago, but I came to admire them far more in the years that followed. I thought their brand of heroism — the heroism of example, the heroism of debts repaid and causes sustained — far more inspiring than the gung-ho kind. Did it really mean much to the human race when Everest was conquered for the first time? Only because there became attached to the memory of the exploit, in the years that followed, a reputation for decency, kindness and stylish simplicity. Hillary and Tenzing fixed it when they knocked the bastard off.
 * Jan Morris in "Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay" in Time magazine (14 June 1999)

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David Weber

David Mark Weber (born October 24, 1952) is an American science fiction author. Many of his stories have militaristic, particularly naval, themes, and fit into the military science fiction genre. His assumption of gender-neutral military services allows him to place female characters in what have often been seen as traditionally male roles, exploring the challenges faced by women in the military and politics. His most enduring character is Honor Harrington, whose story, together with the "Honorverse" she resides in, has been developed in 11 novels and four shared universe anthologies as of spring 2004.

On Basilisk Station (1993)

 * Honor Harrington: My duty is not affected by what others may or may not do to discharge their own.

The Honor of the Queen (1993)

 * Narration: But what kept them on their feet when there was no sane reason for hope were the bonds between them, loyalty to one another, the knowledge that others depended on them even as they depended on those others. And sometimes, all too rarely, it came down to a single person it was simply unthinkable to fail. Someone they knew would never quit on them, never leave them in the lurch.
 * Honor Harrington: The world's best swordsman doesn't fear the second best; he fears the worst swordsman, because he can't predict what the idiot will do. (paraphrase on Mark Twain)

The Short Victorious War (1994)

 * Narration: But the universe wasn't really unfair, she thought, and her mouth quirked. It just didn't give much of a damn one way or the other.
 * Admiral Amos Parnell: (before launching the Manticoran-Havenite War) I suppose I ought to think up some dramatic, quotable phrase for Public Information and the history books, but I'm damned if any of them come to mind. Besides, admitting the truth wouldn't sound too good (...) The truth, Russell, is that now the moment's here, I'm scared shitless. Somehow I don't think even Public Information could turn that into good copy.

Field of Dishonor (1994)

 * Narration: [Michelle] Henke sensed [Honor's] terrifying aptitude for destruction as never before. Henke had feared for her sanity; now she knew the truth was almost worse than that. Honor wasn't insane - she simply didn't care. She'd lost not only her sense of balance but any desire to regain it.

Flag in Exile (1995)

 * Narration: He bit his lip and realized how right the Protector had been to stop him from offering her a commission months ago. Not because she couldn't do the job, but because she was afraid she couldn't. Because she would have refused it, and that refusal would have ended her career forever. Inability, real or imagined, could never truly be overcome once an officer accepted deep inside that he could no longer hack it. That damage was almost always permanent, for it was self-inflicted and no one else could heal it for him.
 * Narration: Perhaps his love for her made him less than impartial, but he also knew how deeply she'd been hurt and chided her for judging herself so much more harshly than she would have judged someone else...
 * Narration: No one else knew how she'd longed for extinction, how much part of her had hungered simply to quit. To end. She'd once intended, coldly and logically, to do just that... She'd sacrificed her naval career... and a corner of her mind suspected she'd actually wanted to sacrifice it - that she'd planned to use the loss of the vocation she loved so much as one more reason to end her dreary existence. It had seemed only reasonable then; now the memory was one more coal of contempt for her own weakness, her willingness to surrender to her own pain when she'd always refused to surrender to anyone else.

Honor Among Enemies (1996)

 * Randy Steilman: Oh, Christ! We're all gonna die. You seen the kinds'a casualty lists she comes up with?

Echoes of Honor (1998)

 * Narration: The reason for his anguish, the intolerable burden which had broken him at last, was the simplest thing in the world: he loved his wife. He always had, and he always would. Nothing could change that, but that was what had made his agony bite so deep, the reason he couldn't forgive himself for not somehow making things "all right" again... and the reason he'd had to turn to someone else to rebuild himself when the collapse came. It had been cowardly of him, in many ways, but he simply could not have made himself dump his weakness, his collapse on her shoulders while she coped with everything God had already done to her.

Ashes of Victory (2000)

 * Shannon Foraker: (after covertly sending self-destruct codes to twenty-four of State Security's 8-megaton warships, destroying them will all hands aboard, about 150,000) Oops.

Crown of Slaves (2003, with Eric Flint)

 * W.E.B. Du Havel: God, I love the "fine morality" of the wealthy and powerful. You'll spill tears over your own, in a heartbeat. And then never even look twice at people below you, whose very lives are ground under every day, day after day, year after year.
 * Victor Cachat's father: Son, you'll know you're in love when a woman's voice settles into your spine.
 * "No problem, kaja" Lara nodded with exaggerated obeisance. "You may lead, so long as we may follow."
 * "Great kaja! Kill them all!"

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George Gilder

George Gilder (born November 29, 1939) is an philosopher, futurologist and author.

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 * Futurists falter because they belittle the power of religious paradigms, deeming them either too literal or too fantastic.
 * Telecosm : How Infinite Bandwidth Will Revolutionize Our World (2000), p. 3 ISBN 9780743215947

 * Let there be light, says the Bible. All the firmaments of technology, all our computers and networks, are built with light, and of light, and for light, to hasten its spread around the world. Light glows on the telescom's periphery; it shines as its core; it illuminates its webs and its links. From Newton, Maxwell, and Einstein to Richard Feynman and Charles Townes, the more men have gazed at light, the more it turns out to be a phenomenon utterly different from anything else. And yet everything else — every atom and every molecula — is fraught with its oscillating intensity.
 * Telecosm : How Infinite Bandwidth Will Revolutionize Our World (2000), p. 31

 * I'm not pushing to have [ ID ] taught as an alternative to Darwin, and neither are they... What’s being pushed is to have Darwinism critiqued, to teach there’s a controversy. Intelligent design itself does not have any content... Much of what I've written about has been in reaction to the materialist superstition, the belief that the universe is a purely material phenomenon that can be reduced to physical and chemical laws. It's a concept that's infected the social sciences as well.
 * Replies when he asked the reasons why he supported the Intelligent Design movement, in his interview with the Boston Globe (27 July 2005)

 * The analogy between Shannon and codes in biology isn't something that sprang from my belief in God... except maybe on some deeper or more transcendent level.
 * Interview with the Boston Globe (27 July 2005)

Gödel demonstrated that every logical scheme, including mathematics, is dependent upon axioms that it cannot prove and that cannot be reduced to the scheme itself. In an elegant mathematical proof, introduced to the world by the great mathematician and computer scientist John von Neumann in September 1930, Gödel demonstrated that mathematics was intrinsically incomplete. 'Gödel was reportedly concerned that he might have inadvertently proved the existence of God, a faux pas'' in his Viennese and Princeton circle. It was one of the famously paranoid Gödel's more reasonable fears.''' As the economist Steven Landsberg, an academic atheist, put it, "Mathematics is the only faith-based science that can prove it."
 * Academic scientists of any sort expect to be struck by lightning if they celebrate real creation de novo in the world. One does not expect modern scientists to address creation by God. They have a right to their professional figments such as infinite multiple parallel universes. But it is a strange testimony to our academic life that they also feel it necessary of entrepreneurship to chemistry and cuisine, Romer finally succumbs to the materialist supersition: the idea that human beings and their ideas are ultimately material. Out of the scientistic fog there emerged in the middle of the last century the countervailling ideas if information theory and computer science. The progenitor of information theory, and perhaps the pivotal figure in the recent history of human thought, was Kurt Gödel, the eccentric Austrian genius and intimate of Einstein who drove determinism from its strongest and most indispensable redoubt; the coherence, consistency, and self-sufficiency of mathematics.
 * Knowledge and Power : The Information Theory of Capitalism and How it is Revolutionizing our World (2013), Ch. 10: Romer's Recipes and Their Limits

 * Entrepreneurship is a creative process, and by its very nature, creativity comes as a surprise to us. To foresee an innovation is in effect to make it. If creativity' were not unexpected, customers could demand it and expert planners could supply it by rote. An economy could be run by demand. But an economy of mind is necessarily impelled by Say's Law ("Supply creates it's own demand."), driven by the unforced surprises of human intellect.
 * Microcosm (1989) page 63

Sexual Suicide (1973)

 * New York: Quadrangle Books.

 * Nonetheless, a kind of Gresham's law applies. Bad sex drives out the good, and the worst of all- philandering and homosexuality- are exalted. Gay liberation, pornographic glut, and one-night trysts are all indices of sexual frustration; all usually disclose a failure to achieve profound and loving sexuality. When a society deliberately affirms these failures: contemplates legislation of homosexual marriage, celebrates the women who denounce the family, and indulges pornography as a manifestation of sexual health and a release from repression- the culture is promoting a form of erotic suicide. For it is destroying the cultural preconditions of profound love and sexuality; the durable heterosexual relationships necessary to a community of emotional investments and continuities in which children can find a secure place.
 * p. 5

 * In the most elemental sense, the sex drive is the survival instinct: the primal tie to the future. When people lose faith in themselves and their prospects, they also lose their procreative energy. They commit sexual suicide. They just cannot bear the idea of "bringing children into the world." But it is a kind of aimless copulation having little to do with the deeper currents of sexuality and love that carry a community into the future.
 * p. 8

 * Marriage is not simply a ratification of an existing love. It is the conversion of that love into a biological and social continuity transcending any two individuals. The very essence of such continuity is children- now fewer than before but retained far longer within the family bounds. Regardless of whether a particular couple is getting married for the companionship or psychoindustrial energy or sexual massage, one must separate the professed motives of the individuals from deeper sexual and evolutionary propensities. All sorts of superficial deviations and distortions- from homosexual marriage to companionate partnership- can be elaborated on the primal foundations of human life. But the foundations remain. The natural fulfillment of love is a child, and the fantasies and projects of the childless couple may well be considered as surrogate children. The essential pattern is clear. Women manipulate male sexual desire in order to teach them the long-term cycles of female sexuality and biology on which civilization is based. When men learn, their view of the woman as an object of their own sexuality succumbs to an image of her as the bearer of a richer and more extended eroticism and as the keeper of the portals of social immorality. She becomes a way to lend elaborate continuity and meaning to the limited erotic compulsions of the male.
 * p. 56-57

 * This intuition of mysterious new realms of sexual and social experience, evoked by the body and spirit of woman, is the source of male love and ultimately of marriage. In evoking marriages love renders the woman transparent: The man sees through her, in a vision freighted with sexual desire, to the child they might have together. For it is a child that he might have only if he performs a role: only if he can offer, in exchange for the intense inner sexual meanings she imparts, an external realm of meaning, sustenance, and protection in which the child could be safely born. Both partners consciously or unconsciously glimpse a future infant- precarious in the womb, vulnerable in the world, and in need of nurture and protection. In the sweat of their bodies together, in the shape and softnesses of the woman, in the protective support of the man, the couple senses the outlines of a realm that can endure and perpetuate their union. At the deepest level, therefore, love and marriage are based on this complementary pattern. The man's most profound and indispensable life must be experienced through the woman; she is the master of their sexuality. Meanwhile the woman's external existence will to some extent be sustained and protected by the man; he gives space for their worldly haven. This may be the very essence of a closed marriage but it is the essence of the institution itself.
 * p. 57

 * Let us begin with a few simple, crucial, and apparently unmentionable facts about a typical high school classroom. First and most important, most of the boys and a good number of the girls are thinking about the opposite sex most of the time. If you do not believe this, you are a dreamer. The only thing about a classroom more important to adolescent boys than whether girls are present is whether or not it is on fire. Advocates of coeducation will tell you that the boys are learning to regard the girls as "human beings" rather than as sexual objects. These are the kinds of people who imagine that most males anywhere, under any circumstances- short of affliction by senility, homosexuality, or Bella Abzug- ever refrain from regarding females as sexual objects. These are the "imaginative" types of people who run our schools. They tend to think that their sexual interest in budding adolescent girls is their own secret perversion. It happens to be shared by the boys in the school (as well as by all the other male teachers). If the educator is particularly creative and imaginative, he will suppose that these young "human beings" are learning a lot about life in their work together. What in fact the boys are learning is that unless they are exceptionally "bright' and obedient, they will be exceeded in their studies by most of the girls. Unless you are imaginative, you will see that this is a further drag on their already faltering attention to Longfellow's Evangeline. Clearly in a losing game in masculine terms, the boys react in two ways: They put on a show for the girls and dominate the class anyway, or they drop out. Enough of them eventually drop out, in fact, to disguise the otherwise decided statistical superiority of female performance in school. But they do not drop out soon enough to suit educators for whom aggressive boys are the leading problem in every high school.
 * p. 207-208

 * The fact is that there seems to be virtually no chance of arresting the trend toward the integration of all sexually segregated schools. Young people are being immersed, if that is the word, in the shallow currents of reciprocal sex at an ever earlier age. It seems that by denying the Holy Ghost his six inches in the schools, one dooms most of society to just that measure of sexual fulfillment.
 * p. 211

 * American society is already hospitable to passive and effeminate males. What they need is affirmation as men so that their existing androgyny does not lead to sexual suicide; to impotence and homosexuality. Contrary to the feminist view, the latitude of the two sexes is not the same. While women can venture into the masculine sphere without grave damage and can even indulge in occasional lesbianism, the greater sexual insecurity of males makes it more difficult and unsettling for them to engage in female roles. Homosexuality, moreover, can inflict permanent damage on their sexual identities. Because males must bear the burdens of initiation and performance in sexual activity, a homosexual fixation is often permanent. A man cannot be easily rescued by an aggressive woman.
 * p. 226

 * While there are many people who accept the romantic propaganda about male homosexual existence, the life of tricks and trades is in fact agonizing for most of its practitioners. Lasting relationships are few and sour. The usual circuit of gay bars, returning servicemen, forlorn personal advertisements, and street cruises affords gratifications so brief and squalid that the society should do everything it can to prevent the spread of the disease. This emphatically does not mean harassing or imprisoning homosexuals. In fact, the worst perversion occasioned by homosexuality is the police practice of entraptment. But at the same time it is crucial to affirm precarious males of their heterosexuality. Natural compassion for men who are already homosexual- and our recognition that men who are already homosexual- and our recognition that some have adjusted happily- should not lead us to praise or affirm the homosexual alternative or to acquiesce in its propaganda.
 * p. 226

 * The chief attraction of homosexual activity is that it does not require confidence or male identity or even face-to-face self-exposure. It can even be informed without an erection. It is thus an inviting escape for the fallen male. Nonetheless, actual homosexuality is by no means inevitable in such cases. A man can recover from his dejection, restore hos confidence, and return to full heterosexuality. This is the usual course of events. It is tragic, therefore, if the cultural ambience provides more easily for homosexuality than for recover of normal patterns. In many parts of urban America this tragedy is a way of life.
 * p. 227

 * The question thus becomes: Will the scientists and women's liberationists be able to unleash on the world a generation of kinless children to serve as the Red Guards of a totalitarian state? Will we try to reproduce the Nazi experiment, when illegitimacy was promoted by the provision of lavish nursing homes and the state usurped the provider male. Or will we manage to maintain our most indispensable condition of civilization- and obstacle to totalitarian usurpation- the human marriage and family.
 * p. 262

Quotes about Gilder

 * George F. Gilder has written an important book called Sexual Suicide in which he examines a wealth of anthropological, economic, social, and psychological data. He then proceeds to explain why family breakdown is the chief cause of the problems that have come down with such force upon our country in recent years. The women's-liberation programs- many of them fostered by women with lesbian tendencies- have weakened family ties and worsened these problems. Gilder points to statistics that prove single men are the chief source of crime and social disruption. He argues convincingly that marriage is essential to male socialization in the modern world.
 * Anita Bryant, The Anita Bryant Story: The Survival of Our Nation's Families and the Threat of Militant Homosexuality (1977), p. 53-54

 * He describes homosexuality as a "flight from identity and love," the "gay liberation" movement as an "escape from sexual responsibility and its display a threat to millions of young men who have precarious masculine identities." Women's liberation he looks upon as a destructive fantasy. "There are no human beings; there are just men and women, and when they deny their divergent sexuality, they reject the deepest sources of identity and love. They commit sexual suicide." The More I read, the more sick at heart I became and the fighting spirit within me grew. I had to look up words and terms- this was a whole new area of thinking for me. "Oh, dear Lord, has this been going on all around me? I've been so indifferent, so careless..." Because I knew my Bible I recognized the perils of homosexuality. But even if one did not know or accept the Word of God, common sense indicates that homosexuality is against nature and not normal and therefore not to be encouraged.
 * Anita Bryant, The Anita Bryant Story: The Survival of Our Nation's Families and the Threat of Militant Homosexuality (1977), p. 55

 * Gilder's analysis saddened me considerably. Despite the romantic propaganda about male homosexual relationships, it is, in fact, agonizing for most of its practitioners. Lasting relationships are few and sour. Gratifications are brief and squalid- "gay" bars, street cruises, forlorn personal advertisements. These do not afford the kind of love the homosexual needs. Gilder warns that heterosexual society should not praise or affirm the homosexual alternatives or acquiesce to their propaganda. It is tragic if the cultural surroundings provide more easily for homosexuality than for recovery of normal patterns. Cities like Miami, which would give in to homosexual demands, are doing the homosexuals no favor. It is far better to help an individual recover from his dejection- whatever has led him into such a debased way of life- restore his confidence, and help him return to full heterosexuality. A society that condones homosexual behavior is a society that is uncaring, for it is allowing an individual to fall prey to sexual self-destruction.
 * Anita Bryant, The Anita Bryant Story: The Survival of Our Nation's Families and the Threat of Militant Homosexuality (1977), p. 55-56

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J. M. Barrie

Sir James Matthew Barrie (9 May 1860 – 19 June 1937) was a Scottish novelist and dramatist, more commonly known as J. M. Barrie. He is most famous as the author of the play Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up.

Quotes

 * The best of our fiction is by novelists who allow that it is as good as they can give, and the worst by novelists who maintain that they could do much better if only the public would let them.
 * The Contemporary Review (1891)

 * Never ascribe to an opponent motives meaner than your own.
 * Rectorial Address, St. Andrew's (3 May 1922)

 * One's religion is whatever he is most interested in, and yours is Success.
 * The Twelve-Pound Look (1910)

 * Those who bring sunshine into the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves.
 * As quoted in Christ's Second Coming Fulfilled (1917) by Marion Morris, p. 144

 * I do loathe explanations.
 * My Lady Nicotine (1890) ch. 16

The Admirable Crichton (1903)

 * I'm not young enough to know everything.
 * Ernest, Act I

 * His lordship may compel us to be equal upstairs, but there will never be equality in the servants' hall.
 * Crichton, Act I

What Every Woman Knows (1908)

 * Oh, it's — it's a sort of bloom on a woman. If you have it, you don't need to have anything else; and if you don't have it, it doesn't much matter what else you have. Some women, the few, have charm for all; and most have charm for one. But some have charm for none.
 * Act I

 * There are few more impressive sights in the world than a Scotsman on the make.
 * Act II

 * The tragedy of a man who has found himself out.
 * Act IV

The Little Minister (1891)

 * Full text online

 * "They didna speak, but they just gave one another a look, and I saw the love-light in their een." No more is remembered of these two, no being now living ever saw them, but the poetry that was in the soul of a battered weaver makes them human to us for ever. It is of another minister I am to tell, but only to those who know that light when they see it. I am not bidding good-bye to many readers, for though it is true that some men, of whom Lord Rintoul was one, live to an old age without knowing love, few of us can have met them, and of women so incomplete I never heard.
 * Ch. 1 : The Love-Light

 * The life of every man is a diary in which he means to write one story, and writes another; and his humblest hour is when he compares the volume as it is with what he vowed to make it.
 * Ch. 1 : The Love-Light

 * How often is it a phantom woman who draws the man from the way he meant to go? So was man created, to hunger for the ideal that is above himself, until one day there is magic in the air, and the eyes of a girl rest upon him. He does not know that it is he himself who crowned her, and if the girl is as pure as he, their love is the one form of idolatry that is not quite ignoble. It is the joining of two souls on their way to God. But if the woman be bad, the test of the man is when he wakens from his dream. The nobler his ideal, the further will he have been hurried down the wrong way, for those who only run after little things will not go far. His love may now sink into passion, perhaps only to stain its wings and rise again, perhaps to drown.
 * Ch. 1 : The Love-Light

 * The gladness of living was in your step, your voice was melody, and he was wondering what love might be. You were the daughter of a summer night, born where all the birds are free, and the moon christened you with her soft light to dazzle the eyes of man. Not our little minister alone was stricken by you into his second childhood. To look upon you was to rejoice that so fair a thing could be; to think of you is still to be young.
 * Ch. 1 : The Love-Light

 * Your heart is as fresh as your face; and that is well. The useless men are those who never change with the years. Many views that I held to in my youth and long afterwards are a pain to me now, and I am carrying away from Thrums memories of errors into which I fell at every stage of my ministry. When you are older you will know that life is a long lesson in humility.
 * Ch. 3 : The Night-Watchers

 * Let no one who loves be called altogether unhappy. Even love unreturned has its rainbow, and Babbie knew that Gavin loved her. Yet she stood in woe among the stiff berry bushes, as one who stretches forth her hands to Love and sees him looking for her, and knows she must shrink from the arms she would lie in, and only call to him in a voice he cannot hear. This is not a love that is always bitter. It grows sweet with age.
 * Ch. 24 : The New World, and the Woman Who May Not Dwell Therein

 * If the young leddy was so careless o' insulting other folks' ancestors, it proves she has nane o' her ain; for them that has china plates themsel's is the maist careful no to break the china plates of others.
 * Ch. 26 : Scene at the Spittal

Margaret Ogilvy (1897)

 * Full text online at Project Gutenberg

 * We never understand how little we need in this world until we know the loss of it.
 * Ch. 8

 * My mother's favourite paraphrase is one known in our house as David's because it was the last he learned to repeat. It was also the last thing she read — Art thou afraid his power shall fail When comes thy evil day? And can an all-creating arm Grow weary or decay? I heard her voice gain strength as she read it, I saw her timid face take courage, but when came my evil day, then at the dawning, alas for me, I was afraid.
 * Ch. 10

 * I had been gone a fortnight when the telegram was put into my hands. I had got a letter from my sister, a few hours before, saying that all was well at home. The telegram said in five words that she had died suddenly the previous night. There was no mention of my mother, and I was three days' journey from home. The news I got on reaching London was this: my mother did not understand that her daughter was dead, and they were waiting for me to tell her.
 * Ch. 10

The Little White Bird (1902)

 * Full text online - This story contained the first published reference to "Peter Pan"; after the success of the play Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up which premiered on 27 December 1904, the chapters involving Peter were published as Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens (1906)

 * Sometimes the little boy who calls me father brings me an invitation from his mother: "I shall be so pleased if you will come and see me," and I always reply in some such words as these: "Dear madam, I decline." And if David asks why I decline, I explain that it is because I have no desire to meet the woman.  "Come this time, father," he urged lately, "for it is her birthday, and she is twenty-six," which is so great an age to David, that I think he fears she cannot last much longer.
 * Ch. 1

 * Shall we make a new rule of life from tonight: always to try to be a little kinder than is necessary?
 * Often paraphrased as: Always be a little kinder than necessary.
 * Ch. 4

 * If you ask your mother whether she knew about Peter Pan when she was a little girl she will say, "Why, of course, I did, child," and if you ask her whether he rode on a goat in those days she will say, "What a foolish question to ask; certainly he did." Then if you ask your grandmother whether she knew about Peter Pan when she was a girl, she also says, "Why, of course, I did, child," but if you ask her whether he rode on a goat in those days, she says she never heard of his having a goat. Perhaps she has forgotten, just as she sometimes forgets your name and calls you Mildred, which is your mother's name. Still, she could hardly forget such an important thing as the goat. Therefore there was no goat when your grandmother was a little girl. This shows that, in telling the story of Peter Pan, to begin with the goat (as most people do) is as silly as to put on your jacket before your vest. Of course, it also shows that Peter is ever so old, but he is really always the same age, so that does not matter in the least.
 * Ch. 14

 * Every living thing was shunning him. Poor little Peter Pan, he sat down and cried, and even then he did not know that, for a bird, he was sitting on his wrong part. It is a blessing that he did not know, for otherwise he would have lost faith in his power to fly, and the moment you doubt whether you can fly, you cease forever to be able to do it. The reason birds can fly and we can't is simply that they have perfect faith, for to have faith is to have wings.
 * Ch. 14

 * It is frightfully difficult to know much about the fairies, and almost the only thing known for certain is that there are fairies wherever there are children.
 * Ch. 16

 * When you were a bird you knew the fairies pretty well, and you remember a good deal about them in your babyhood, which it is a great pity you can't write down, for gradually you forget, and I have heard of children who declared that they had never once seen a fairy. Very likely if they said this in the Kensington Gardens, they were standing looking at a fairy all the time. The reason they were cheated was that she pretended to be something else. This is one of their best tricks.
 * Ch. 16

 * Wise children always choose a mother who was a shocking flirt in her maiden days, and so had several offers before she accepted their fortunate papa.
 * Ch. 22

 * "In twenty years," I said, smiling at her tears, "a man grows humble, Mary. I have stored within me a great fund of affection, with nobody to give it to, and I swear to you, on the word of a soldier, that if there is one of those ladies who can be got to care for me I shall be very proud." Despite her semblance of delight I knew that she was wondering at me, and I wondered at myself, but it was true.
 * Ch. 26

Peter Pan (1904)

 * Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Would Not Grow Up (1904)

 * Wendy, one girl is worth more than twenty boys.
 * Act I

 * Second to the right and then straight on till morning.
 * Act I

 * Do you know why swallows build in the eaves of houses? It is to listen to the stories.
 * Act I

 * I'll teach you to jump on the wind's back and then away we go.
 * Act I

 * You just think lovely wonderful thoughts and they lift you up in the air.
 * Act I

 * To die will be an awfully big adventure.
 * Act III

 * Do you believe in fairies?...If you believe, clap your hands!
 * Act IV

 * I just want always to be a little boy and have fun.
 * Act IV

 * Split my infinitives, but 'tis my hour of triumph!
 * Act V

 * I'm youth, I'm joy, I'm a little bird that has broken out of the egg.
 * Act V

 * Proud and insolent youth, prepare to meet thy doom.
 * Act V

 * Dark and sinister man, have at thee.
 * Act V

 * If he could get the hang of the thing his cry might become To live would be an awfully big adventure! but he can never quite the hang of it...
 * Act V

When Wendy Grew Up - An Afterthought (1908)
Every Spring Cleaning, except when he forgets, I'll let Jane fly away with him to the darling Never Never Land, and when she grows up I will hope she will have a little daughter, who will fly away with him in turn - and in this way may it go on for ever and ever, so long as children are young and innocent.

Peter and Wendy (1911)

 * Based upon the play Peter Pan, or The Boy Who Wouldn't Grow Up (1904) and often published simply as "Peter Pan" Full text online

 * All children, except one, grow up. They soon know that they will grow up, and the way Wendy knew was this. One day when she was two years old she was playing in a garden, and she plucked another flower and ran with it to her mother. I suppose she must have looked rather delightful, for Mrs. Darling put her hand to her heart and cried, "Oh, why can't you remain like this for ever!" This was all that passed between them on the subject, but henceforth Wendy knew that she must grow up. You always know after you are two. Two is the beginning of the end.
 * Ch. 1

 * Occasionally in her travels through her children's minds Mrs. Darling found things she could not understand, and of these quite the most perplexing was the word Peter. She knew of no Peter, and yet he was here and there in John and Michael's minds, while Wendy's began to be scrawled all over with him. The name stood out in bolder letters than any of the other words, and as Mrs. Darling gazed she felt that it had an oddly cocky appearance. "Yes, he is rather cocky," Wendy admitted with regret. Her mother had been questioning her.
 * Ch. 1

 * You see, Wendy, when the first baby laughed for the first time, its laugh broke into a thousand pieces, and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning of fairies.
 * Ch. 3

 * "There ought to be one fairy for every boy and girl." "Ought to be? Isn't there?"  "No. You see children know such a lot now, they soon don't believe in fairies, and every time a child says, 'I don't believe in fairies,' there is a fairy somewhere that falls down dead."
 * Ch. 3

 * "Would you like an adventure now," he said casually to John, "or would you like to have your tea first?"
 * Ch. 4

 * She said out of pity for him, "I shall give you a kiss if you like," but though he once knew, he had long forgotten what kisses are, and he replied, "Thank you," and held out his hand, thinking she had offered to put something into it. This was a great shock to her, but she felt she could not explain without shaming him, so with charming delicacy she gave Peter a thimble which happened to be in her pocket, and pretended that it was a kiss.
 * Ch. 6

 * Peter flung out his arms. There were no children there, and it was night time; but he addressed all who might be dreaming of the Neverland, and who were therefore nearer to him than you think: boys and girls in their nighties, and naked papooses in their baskets hung from trees. "Do you believe?" he cried.
 * Ch. 13

 *  "If you believe," he shouted to them, "clap your hands; don't let Tink die."  Many clapped. Some didn't. A few beasts hissed. The clapping stopped suddenly; as if countless mothers had rushed to their nurseries to see what on earth was happening; but already Tink was saved. First her voice grew strong, then she popped out of bed, then she was flashing through the room more merry and impudent than ever. She never thought of thanking those who believed, but she would have like to get at the ones who had hissed.
 * Ch. 13

 * When a new baby laughs for the first time a new fairy is born, and as there are always new babies there are always new fairies. They live in nests on the tops of trees; and the mauve ones are boys and the white ones are girls, and the blue ones are just little sillies who are not sure what they are.
 * Ch. 17

 * Michael believed longer than the other boys, though they jeered at him; so he was with Wendy when Peter came for her at the end of the first year. She flew away with Peter in the frock she had woven from leaves and berries in the Neverland, and her one fear was that he might notice how short it had become; but he never noticed, he had so much to say about himself. She had looked forward to thrilling talks with him about old times, but new adventures had crowded the old ones from his mind.
 * Ch. 17

 * "Why can't you fly now, mother?" "Because I am grown up, dearest. When people grow up they forget the way." "Why do they forget the way?" "Because they are no longer gay and innocent and heartless. It is only the gay and innocent and heartless who can fly."
 * Ch. 17

 * The last thing he ever said to me was, "Just always be waiting for me, and then some night you will hear me crowing."
 * Ch. 17

 * "I am old, Peter. I am ever so much more than twenty. I grew up long ago." "You promised not to!" "I couldn't help it. I am a married woman, Peter."
 * Ch. 17

 * As you look at Wendy, you may see her hair becoming white, and her figure little again, for all this happened long ago. Jane is now a common grown-up, with a daughter called Margaret; and every spring cleaning time, except when he forgets, Peter comes for Margaret and takes her to the Neverland, where she tells him stories about himself, to which he listens eagerly. When Margaret grows up she will have a daughter, who is to be Peter's mother in turn; and thus it will go on, so long as children are gay and innocent and heartless.
 * Ch. 17

Quotes about Barrie

 * It is my belief that Peter Pan is a great and refining and uplifting benefaction to this sordid and money-mad age; and the next best play is a long way behind.
 * Mark Twain, in a letter to actress Maude Adams, quoted in Maude Adams : An Intimate Portrait (1956) by Phyllis Robbins, p. 90

title: J. M. Barrie


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Talk:Groucho Marx

Misattribution
A lot of the wonderful Groucho Marx quotes are lines he spoke in movies written by people like S. J. Perlman. I don't know whether or not they are quotes written by Perlman or improvised by Groucho, but Wikipedia should be sensitive to the issue.

There's George S. Kaufman to consider as well as Perelman. Groucho was funny but sometimes the lines are written by his scriptwriters...

 * I agree: where Groucho is not credited as writer the film lines do not belong on this page. To solve the problem, they could be moved to a new Marx Brothers article about the films. ~ Ningauble 13:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Of course you know this means war
The quote, "Of course you know this means war" is not from "Duck Soup." It is from "A Night At the Opera." Groucho says it several times in several films. He says it in 'A Day at the Races' too. 84.68.161.93 22:55, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * "This means war!" was uttered several times in Duck Soup. Wahkeenah 17:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Never by Groucho, though.

"Wives and Girlfriends"
While Groucho may have said it, it didn't originate with him...it's actually a variation on an old Royal Navy toast: "To our wives and lovers -- may they never meet!" 216.52.210.36 15:06, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

True, I think it's even somewhere in Wikiquote (english proverbs?)

Suggestions
. (dictating a letter to his lawyers): "Gentlemen... Question mark" - In "Animal Crackers" ––Harol2 08:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That's not just a quote, it's an entire "bit" that would take a paragraph or two to cover. Wahkeenah 17:56, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Marx's opposition to canned laughter
Comedian Jim Norton said that Marx once stated that canned laughter was killed comedy because "You [the makers of the sitcom] didn't have to work to be funny; you were always guaranteed a laugh." Does anyone have a source for this? 68.229.63.80 21:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

restricted country club
"When told that a swimming pool was off-limits to Jews"…

I had always heard that the story related to his half-Jewish granddaughter at a restricted (anti-Jewish) country club, and that what Marx actually said something to the effect it'd be okay if she went in up to her waist, implying that only asses used the pool.

And I thought she only went halfway in because she was half-Jewish.

--UnicornTapestry 21:56, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

 * Haaretz gives another version:

Sincerity
I always believed Groucho Marx once said "Sincerity is everything, once you can fake sincerity the world is your oyster" or something to that effect. Am I misattributing this? (mikeavison)
 * Possibly. Other sources attribute it to Jean Giraudoux, a French diplomat.HughGRex (talk) 09:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Also George Burns

Quit before Retiring
In 'Animal Crackers', during the conversation with the Fish Peddler (starting at 29:15), more specifically at (30:08 to 30:55) there is the following dialog:

Groucho: ...and I'm Geoffery T. Spalding, I bet you don't know what the "T" stands for!

Roscoe W. Chandler: Uhh..."Thomas"?

Groucho: (Shakes his head) Edgar! You were close though, you were close though and you still are I bet. Now this is what I wanted to talk to you about Mr. Chandler: how would you like to finance a scientific expedition?

Chandler: Well, that is a question.

Groucho: Yes that is a question. You certainly know a question when you see it. (shakes Chandler's hand) I congratulate you. And that brings us right back to where we were. How would you like to finance a scientific expedition?

Chandler: Well, is there any particular kind of expedition you had in mind?

Groucho: Well, I'm telling you I'm getting along in years now, and there's one thing I always wanted to do before I quit.

Chandler: What is that?

Groucho: Retire! Now would you be interested in a proposition of that kind? You know I've always had an idea that my retirement would be the greatest contribution to science that the world has ever known.

Unsourced
Wikiquote no longer allows unsourced quotations, and they are in process of being removed from our pages (see Wikiquote:Limits on quotations); but if you can provide a reliable and precise source for any quote on this list please move it to. ~ Ningauble 14:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

 * A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere.

 * A man's only as old as the woman he feels.

 * A moose is an animal with horns on the front of his head and a hunting lodge wall on the back of it.

 * Age is not a particularly interesting subject. Anyone can get old. All you have to do is live long enough.

 * An apprentice mortician? What, do you only bury live people?
 * You Bet Your Life (television show; undated)

 * Because we were a kid act, we traveled at half-fare, despite the fact that we were all around twenty. Minnie insisted we were thirteen. "That kid of yours is in the dining car smoking a cigar," the conductor told her. "And another one is in the washroom shaving." Minnie shook her head sadly. "They grow so fast."

 * Before I speak, I have something important to say.

 * Blood's not thicker than money.

 * Do infants have as much fun in infancy as adults do in adultery?

 * Eventually I smoked Havanas. A cigar makers' organization once said that I was the most famous cigar smoker in the world. I don't know if that's true, but once while visiting Havana, I went to a cigar factory. There were four hundred people there rolling cigars, and when they saw me, they all stood up and applauded.

 * Ever since they found out that Lassie was a boy, the public has believed the worst about Hollywood.

 * Home is where you hang your head.

 * How do you make your living? If you call that living...

 * I cannot say that I do not disagree with you.

 * I chased a girl for two years only to discover that her tastes were exactly like mine: We were both crazy about girls.

 * I didn't like the play, but then I saw it under adverse conditions — the curtain was up.

 * I drink to make other people interesting.

 * I feel [I feel] like an old jerk.
 * On how it felt to be an elder statesman of comedy, c. late 1960s

 * I find television very educational. The minute somebody turns it on, I go to the library and read a good book.

 * I have nothing but respect for you, and not much of that.

—There’s a similar line in Catch-22: “He had decided to live forever or die in the attempt …”
 * I intend to live forever, or die trying.

 * I made a killing on Wall Steet a few years ago...I shot my broker.

 * I started smoking as soon as I went on the stage. I'd make cigars out of the Morning World when I was a kid.

 * I wish to be cremated. One tenth of my ashes shall be given to my agent, as written in our contract.

 * I'm not a vegetarian, but I eat animals who are.

 * I'm not feeling very well, I need a doctor immediately. Ring the nearest golf course.

 * If women dressed for men, the stores wouldn't sell much -- just an occasional sun visor.

 * If you fall out of that window and break both your legs, don't come running to me.

 * If you want to see a comic strip, you should see me in the shower.

 * If you've heard this story before, don't stop me, because I'd like to hear it again.

 * In America you can go on the air and kid the politicians, and the politicians can go on the air and kid the people.
 * Will Rogers made a similar comment: "My little jokes never hurt anyone, but when Congress makes a joke, it's a law.

 * It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.

 * It looks as if Hollywood brides keep the bouquets and throw away the grooms.

 * Marriage is a wonderful institution ... but who wants to live in an institution?
 * This has also been attributed to Mae West

 * Marriage is the chief cause of divorce.

 * Military justice is to justice what military music is to music.
 * Possibly from Georges Clemenceau

 * My favourite poem is the one that starts "Thirty days hath September" because it actually tells you something.

 * My mother treated us all equally ... with contempt.

 * My son is half-Jewish. Can he wade in up to his knees?
 * When told that a swimming pool was off-limits to Jews
 * Variation: "Well, my daughter's only half-Jewish. Could she go up to the middle?"

 * Now, there's a man with an open mind. You can feel the breeze from here.

 * Paying alimony is like feeding hay to a dead horse.

 * Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

 * Q: What do you get when you cross an insomniac, an agnostic, and a dyslexic? A: Someone who stays up all night wondering if there is a Dog.

 * Room service? Send up a larger room.

 * She got her looks from her father. He's a plastic surgeon.

 * A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running.

 * That kid's so smart, he could be the fifth Marx Brother.
 * Comment he made about Woody Allen

 * The husband who wants a happy marriage should learn to keep his mouth shut and his checkbook open.

 * The only game I like to play is Old Maid — provided she's not too old.

 * The secret of success is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake those, you've got it made.

 * There is only one way to find out if a man is honest...ask him. If he says 'yes', you know he is crooked.

"You don't like those ideas? I got others!" - Marshall McLuhan full lecture The Medium is the Message 1977 part 1 v3 around 14:23 into ABC TV, Monday Conference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImaH51F4HBw&feature=player_embedded
 * Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others.

 * Time wounds all heels.
 * This quote has also been attributed to John Lennon; however, The Marx Brothers Go West (where the quote originated) was released in 1940, when John Lennon was born.

 * We should pull out. Which is what Nixon’s father should have done.
 * On Vietnam

 * When I heard about Hair, I was kind of curious about the six naked primates on stage. So I called up the box office and they said tickets were $11 apiece. That's an awful price to pay. I went into the bathroom at home and took off all my clothes and looked in the mirror for five minutes. And I said, "This isn't worth $11."

 * Whoever named it necking was a poor judge of anatomy.

 * Why should I care about posterity? What's posterity ever done for me?

 * Will it play in Peoria?

 * Yesterday is dead, tomorrow hasn't arrived yet. I have just one day, and I'm going to be happy in it.

Groucho didn't say this. It's a paraphrase of what was stated by a guest on his show You Bet Your Life - 1951 March 28 - http://otperk.com/youbetyourlife.cgi

 * A man's only as old as the woman he feels.
 * A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke.
 * Anyone who says he can see through women is missing a lot.
 * Behind every successful man is a woman, behind her is his wife.
 * From the moment I picked your book up until I laid it down, I convulsed with laughter. Someday I intend on reading it.
 * Go, and never darken my towels again.

 * I don't care to belong to a club that accepts people like me as members.
 * I find television very educational. Every time someone switches it on I go into another room and read a good book.
 * I remember the first time I had sex - I kept the receipt.
 * I resemble that remark.
 * I thought my razor was dull, then I heard his speech.
 * I was married by a judge. I should have asked for a jury.
 * I've had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it.
 * If you write about yourself, the slightest deviation makes you realize instantly that there may be honor among thieves, but you are just a dirty liar.
 * In Hollywood, brides keep the bouquets and throw away the groom.
 * Military intelligence is a contradiction in terms.
 * My mother loved children, she would have given anything if I had been one.
 * Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men -- the other 999 follow women.
 * Outside of a dog, a book is Man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.
 * Pardon me while I have a strange interlude...
 * Quote me as saying I was mis-quoted.
 * There is one way to find out if a man is honest; ask him! If he says yes you know he's crooked.
 * Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
 * Whoever named it necking was a poor judge of anatomy.
 * You get a canoe later and I'll paddle you.
 * In the middle of a cricket match: "So when does the game begin?"

Groucho has his own, highly individual interpretations of common supersitions. Some of his remarks include:
 * When a person's nose itches, it is a sign that it should be scratched.
 * A black cat crossing your path signifies that the animal is going somewhere.
 * Thirteen at a table is unlucky when the hostess has only twelve chops.
 * Shaking hands across the table means that two parties are lazy.
 * Singing before breakfast is a forewarning of a fight with a neighbour- if the neighbour is trying to sleep late.
 * Throwing salt over the shoulder is likely to give the impression that the man who throws the salt has dandruff.
 * Recognising the number 13 is a sign that you have been to school.
 * Finding a four leaf clover is a sign that you have been down on your hands and knees.
 * To get out of bed on the wrong side probably means that you had had too much the night before.
 * To carry a rabbit's foot is a sign that you are a good shot- or have a friend that is.
 * When three men get a light off one match it is indicative of the fact that they have only one match or are Scotsmen.

There's a (video) documentary on Groucho which has him actually saying some of the quotes above, and there's others I'm almost certain I've seen footage of him saying (later in life in interviews on various shows). It might be worth searching Groucho material on youtube to find evidence of some of these quotes - if nothing else it might provide a pointer to where a more "reliable" source can be found.

Last Words contradiction
Apparently, the last words of Henry John Temple (Lord Palmerston) were supposedly about dieing being the last thing he will do, but on the Wikipedia page linked from the article, his last words were about Article 98. A little bit of a contradiction, I think.

-- Wikipedia's EbedYahweh, 138.67.185.75 17:39, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

bonds "if you have enough of them"
I often read a quote attributed to Groucho in which an NYSE trader asks him where he invests. "I keep my money in bonds" or "treasuries." Trader: "You can't make a living that way." OR "You'll never be rich from those." Marx: "You will if you have enough of them."

Any sources for that? Tharsaile (talk) 15:36, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikiquote. I have observed that you entered quotes and deleted them for Adrian Speyer, and that you have agreed that the Wikipedia article created for him should probably be deleted. Even if this article is also deleted here, you are welcome to post quotes by Speyer or other less famous individuals on your User page or talk page. One idea that I have been considering to propose here is a "Directory" page of links to User pages for Users who wish to post quotes they find notable of "non-famous" persons (iincluding themselves) on their user pages. This has not been created yet, but "Wikiquote Matrix" is one idea that I have had as a title for it. ~ Kalki 20:17, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

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Sounds like a great idea. I think there needs to be a more open mind about lesser "non-commericialized" poets and writers. It is hard for them to find an outlet. Thank you for your ideas. I wish you success in those endeavours. I will take your advice.

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Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends

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Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends (2004–2009) is an American animated television series created by Craig McCracken for Cartoon Network. The series revolve around Mac and Bloo as they interact with other imaginary friends and house staff and live out their day-to-day adventures, often getting caught up in various predicaments.

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Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends: 1 2 3 4 5 6

Cast

 * Mac (voiced by )
 * Bloo (voiced by Keith Ferguson)
 * Wilt (voiced by )
 * Eduardo (voiced by )
 * Coco (voiced by )
 * Frances "Frankie" Foster (voiced by )
 * Mr. Herriman (voiced by )
 * Madame Foster (voiced by )
 * Goo (voiced by )
 * Cheese (voiced by )
 * Duchess (voiced by )
 * Terrence (voiced by )
 * Mac's Mom (voiced by )
 * Jackie Khones (voiced by )
 * Bloppy Pants (voiced by )
 * Fluffer Nutter (voiced by )
 * Yogi Boo Boo (voiced by )
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