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Phil Ochs

Phil Ochs (19 December 1940 – 9 April 1976) was a folksinger active in the civil rights movement and in opposition to the Vietnam War.

Quotes

 * One good song with a message can bring a point more deeply to more people than a thousand rallies.
 * Statement in Broadside magazine (1962), quoted in Songs of the Vietnam Conflict (2001) by James E. Perone, p. 19

 * Before the days of television and mass media, the folksinger was often a traveling newspaper spreading tales through music.... There is an urgent need for Americans to look deeply into themselves and their actions, and musical poetry is perhaps the most effective mirror available. Every newspaper headline is a potential song.
 * Article in the 22nd edition of the Broadside Magazine (1963)

 * In every American community there are varying shades of political opinion. One of the shadiest of these is the liberals. An outspoken group on many subjects. Ten degrees to the left of center in good times. Ten degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally. Here, then, is a lesson in safe logic.
 * Introduction to "Love Me, I'm a Liberal" on Phil Ochs in Concert (1966)

 * Does defending liberalism leave you friendless and perhaps wondering about your breath?
 * "Have you Heard? The War is Over!" The Village Voice (23 November 1967) [later published in Ochs' The War is Over (1968)]

 * I was over there, entertaining the troops. I won't say which troops.
 * Introduction to "Santo Domingo" from "Phil Ochs In Concert" (1966)

 * Leave the old and dying America and use your creative energies to help form a new America, which would be de-militarized, more humanistic, where the police are less hostile and closer to the community, where the wealthy are not given unleashed power for the exploitation of the people. And, mostly because it's now a matter of life and death, reassert an ecological balance with the environment, which means the people in the oil companies and the car companies and the space industry and all the other industries will have to be brought into account, so that there will be a new definition of government which has to be closer to the people and less close to special interests which are far more harmful than any revolutionaries.
 * Broadside magazine interview (1968; published 1976)

 *  I for one don't even believe that he's president. In order to have a president you need to have an election, in order to have an election you have to have a choice, and if you remember back to the primaries there were people running against the war, Kennedy and McCarthy. They often got 85 to 90% of the votes, but when it came time for the parties, that was totally ignored, so in point of fact, there really was no election. For a man who's always wanted to be president, and now that he's president, he's not even president.
 * Speech about Richard Nixon before playing "Ten Cents A Coup" on the Greatest Hits album (February 1970)

 * I write all my own songs and they are just simple melodies with a lot of lyrics. They usually have to do with current events and what is going on in the news. You can call them topical songs, songs about the news, and then developing into more philosophical songs later.
 * Testimony at the Chicago Seven trial (11 December 1969)

 * MR. KUNSTLER: Now, Mr. Ochs, have you ever been associated with what is called the Youth International Party, or, as we will say, the Yippies? THE WITNESS: Yes. I helped design the party, formulate the idea of what Yippie was going to be, in the early part of 1968. MR. KUNSTLER: Can you indicate to the Court and jury what Yippie was going to be, what its purpose was for its formation? THE WITNESS: The idea of Yippie was to be a form of theater politics, theatrically dealing with what seemed to be an increasingly absurd world and trying to deal with it in other than just on a straight moral level. They wanted to be able to act out fantasies in the street to communicate their feelings to the public.
 * Testimony at the Chicago Seven trial (11 December 1969)

 * I can spare a dime, brother, but in these morally inflationary times, a dime goes a lot farther if it's demanding work rather than adding to the indignity of relief.
 * Interview with Michael Ross (1969)

 * It is wrong to expect a reward for your struggles. The reward is the act of struggle itself, not what you win. Even though you can't expect to defeat the absurdity of the world, you must make that attempt. That's morality, that's religion. That's art. That's life.
 * As quoted in The Complete Phil Ochs : Chords of Fame (1978) by Almo publications

 * [The Yippie demonstrations] were merely an attack of mental disobedience on an obediently insane society ... and if you feel you have been living in an unreal world for the last couple of years, it is particularly because this power structure has refused to listen to reason ... Step outside the guidelines of the official umpires and make your own rules and your own reality.
 * As quoted in An American Ordeal: The Antiwar Movement of the Vietnam Period (1990) by Charles DeBenedetti, p. 223

 * The American Politician has developed into the gutless master of procrastination with a maximum of non-committal statement and the barest minimum of action. This moral vacuum is exceeded only by the apathetic public who allows him to stay in power.
 * As quoted off the blurb for the song "Days of Decision" on the back of the album I Ain't Marching Anymore

Lyrics

 * Show me a prison, show me a jail Show me a pris'ner whose face has grown pale And I'll show you a young man With many reasons why There but for fortune, go you or I.
 * "There but for Fortune" (1963); Ochs here paraphrases a proverbial expression "There, but for the grace of God, go I", which was itself a paraphrase of John Bradford's expression on seeing other prisoners being led to their execution as heretics to be burned at the stake: There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford. (as quoted in Problems in the Relations of God and Man (1911) by Clement Charles Julian Webb, p. 107)

 * Show me an alley, show me a train Show me a hobo who sleeps out in the rain And I'll show you a young man With many reasons why There but for fortune, go you or I
 * "There but for Fortune" (1963)

 * Show me a country where the bombs had to fall Show me the ruins of buildings so tall And I'll show you a young land With many reasons why There but for fortune, go you or I You or I.
 * "There but for Fortune" (1963)

 * Now they sing out his praises on every distant shore But so few remember what he was fightin' for Oh why sing the songs and forget about the aim? He wrote them for a reason, why not sing them for the same?
 * "Bound For Glory" from All the News That's Fit to Sing (1964)

 * Yet she's only as rich as the poorest of the poor Only as free as a padlocked prison door Only as strong as our love for this land Only as tall as we stand!
 * "The Power and the Glory" from All the News That's Fit to Sing (1964)

 * Here is a land full of power and glory Beauty that words cannot recall Oh her power shall rest on the strength of her freedom Her glory shall rest on us all.
 * "The Power and the Glory"

 * It's always the old to lead us to the war It's always the young to fall Now look at all we've won with the sabre and the gun Tell me is it worth it all.
 * "I Ain't Marching Anymore", on I Ain't Marching Anymore (1965) · 1969 performance on YouTube · Full lyrics online

 * Call it peace or call it treason, Call it love or call it reason, But I ain't marching anymore!
 * "I Ain't Marching Anymore"

 * Well I've seen travel in many ways I've traveled in cars and old subways But in Birmingham some people chose To fly down the street from a fire hose. Doin' some hard travelin'...from hydrants of plenty.
 * "Talking Birmingham Jam" from I Ain't Marching Anymore (1965)

 * And the evil is done in hopes that evil surrenders but the deeds of the devil are burned too deep in the embers and a world of hunger in vengeance will always remember So please be reassured, we seek no wider war, we seek no wider war.
 * "We Seek No Wider War" (1965) from Farewells & Fantasies (1997)
 * Note: The song title alludes to a speech by Lyndon Johnson (17 Februaty 1965), in which he said, referring to the war in Vietnam: "We have no ambition there for ourselves, we seek no wider war."

 * Dump the reds in a pile, boys Dump the reds in a pile You'd better wipe off that smile, boys Better wipe off that smile We'll spit through the streets of the cities we wreck We'll find you a leader that you can't elect Those treaties we signed were a pain in the neck 'Cause we're the cops of the world, boys We're the cops of the world.
 * "Cops of the World" from Phil Ochs in Concert (1966)

 * And I won't be laughing at the lies when I'm gone And I can't question how or when or why when I'm gone Can't live proud enough to die when I'm gone So I guess I'll have to do it while I'm here.
 * "When I'm Gone" from Phil Ochs in Concert (1966)

 * So do your duty, boys, and join with pride Serve your country in her suicide Find the flags so you can wave goodbye But just before the end even treason might be worth a try This country is too young to die I declare the war is over It's over, it's over.
 * "The War Is Over" from Tape from California (1968)

 * Oh you tell me that there's danger to the land you call your own And you watch them build the war machine right beside your home And you tell me that you're ready to go marchin' to the war I know you're set for fighting, but what are you fighting for?
 * Are You Fighting For" from Songs for Broadside (1976)

 * In the courtroom, watch the balance of the scales If the price is right, there's time for more appeals The strings are pulled, the switch is stayed The finest lawyers fees are paid And a rich man never died upon the chair
 * Iron Lady" from I Ain't Marching Anymore (1965)

Pleasures of the Harbor (1967)

 * Full lyrics online

 * I watched my life fade-away in a flash A quarter of a century dash through closets full of candles with never a room For rapture through a kingdom had been captured. And so I turn away from my drizzling furniture and pass old ladies Sniffling by movie stars' tombs, yes I must be home again soon. To face the unspoken unguarded thoughts of habitual hearts A vanguard of electricians a village full of tarts Who say you must protest you must protest It is your diamond duty… Ah but in such an ugly time the true protest is beauty And the bleeding seer crawled from the ruins of the empire And stood bleeding, bleeding on the border He said, passion has led to chaos and now chaos will lead to order.''' Oh I have been away for a while and I hope to be back again soon.
 * Liner notes; part of this statement is often paraphrased "In such ugly times, the only true protest is beauty."

 * I'm gonna give all I've got to give Cross my heart, and I hope to live.
 * "Cross My Heart"

 * The painter paints his brushes black Through the canvas runs a crack Portrait of the pain never answers back.
 * "The Flower Lady"

 * Look outside the window, there's a woman being grabbed They've dragged her to the bushes and now she's being stabbed Maybe we should call the cops and try to stop the pain But Monopoly is so much fun, I'd hate to blow the game And I'm sure it wouldn't interest anybody Outside of a small circle of friends.
 * "Outside Of A Small Circle Of Friends"

 * Smoking marijuana is more fun than drinking beer, But a friend of ours was captured and they gave him thirty years Maybe we should raise our voices, ask somebody why But demonstrations are a drag, besides we're much too high.
 * "Outside Of A Small Circle Of Friends"

 * In the green fields a turnin', a baby is born His cries crease the wind and mingle with the morn An assault upon the order, the changing of the guard Chosen for a challenge that is hopelessly hard And the only single sound is the sighing of the stars But to the silence and distance they are sworn.
 * "Crucifixion"

 * So dance dance dance Teach us to be true Come dance dance dance 'Cause we love you
 * "Crucifixion"

 * Images of innocence charge him go on But the decadence of destiny is looking for a pawn To a nightmare of knowledge he opens up the gate And a blinding revelation is laid upon his plate That beneath the greatest love is a hurricane of hate And God help the critic of the dawn.
 * "Crucifixion"

 * They say they can't believe it, it's a sacrilegious shame Now, who would want to hurt such a hero of the game? But you know I predicted it; I knew he had to fall How did it happen? I hope his suffering was small. Tell me every detail, I've got to know it all, And do you have a picture of the pain?
 * "Crucifixion"

 * Time takes her toll and the memory fades but his glory is broken, in the magic that he made. Reality is ruined; it's the freeing from the fear The drama is distorted, to what they want to hear Swimming in their sorrow, in the twisting of a tear As they wait for a new thrill parade.
 * "Crucifixion"

The Broadside Tapes 1 (made in the 1960s; published c. 1980)

 * When they show the destruction of society on color TV, I want to be able to look out over Los Angeles and make sure they get it right.
 * Liner notes

 * The final story, the final chapter of Western man, I believe, lies in Los Angeles.
 * Liner notes

 * Leaving America is like losing twenty pounds and finding a new girlfriend.
 * Liner notes

 * A protest song is a song that's so specific that you cannot mistake it for bullshit.
 * Liner notes

 * And if there's any hope for America, it lies in a revolution, and if there's any hope for a revolution in America, it lies in getting Elvis Presley to become Che Guevara.
 * Liner notes

 * America is two Mack trucks colliding on a superhighway because all the drivers are on amphetamines.
 * Liner notes

 * God isn't dead — he's just missing in action.
 * Liner notes

Quotes about Ochs

 * Unlike some other protesters, his attacks aren't safe and generalised. He chooses his targets well, and he hits them hard.
 * Karl Dallas, as quoted in Contemporary Literary Criticism Vol. 17 (1981) by Sharon R. Gunton, p. 330

 * I just can't keep up with Phil. And he's getting better and better and better.
 * Bob Dylan, as quoted in Contemporary Literary Criticism Vol. 17 (1981) by Sharon R. Gunton, p. 330

 * We got our heads bashed in Chicago; we saw students shot to death at Kent State; we had people stabbed to death at the Rolling Stones' Altamont concert — what do we have to believe in anymore? Unfortunately, for Phil Ochs, he couldn't give an answer. He lost his faith.
 * Michael Schumacher, There But For Fortune: The Life of Phil Ochs (1996)

 * That was really Phil's strong point. The big rally. He was a topical singer. He sang a lot of songs about the news of the day. When he performed in that kind of venue, he was at his absolute best.
 * Michael Schumacher, There But For Fortune: The Life of Phil Ochs (1996)

 * Phil believed strongly that one could change events, or change people's perception, through a well-crafted song.
 * Michael Schumacher, There But For Fortune: The Life of Phil Ochs (1996)

 * He was kind of forbidden fruit in a way. Everybody thinks of the '60s as being nothing but radicals and hippies and crazy people, but when you were going to school, people discouraged you from listening to people like Phil Ochs or Bob Dylan, or reading Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg... He was seen as this of radical which is really kind of funny. When you look back, his message was so humanistic, how could it possibly have seemed so radical? He was singing for equality and freedom and the end of war.
 * Michael Schumacher, There But For Fortune: The Life of Phil Ochs (1996)

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Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (January 12, 1918 – February 5, 2008) developed and introduced the Transcendental Meditation technique (also known as TM) and related programs and initiatives, including schools and universities with campuses in countries around the world

Quotes

 * Problems or successes, they all are the results of our own actions. Karma. The philosophy of action is that no one else is the giver of peace or happiness. One's own karma, one's own actions are responsible to come to bring either happiness or success or whatever... As you sow, so shall you reap. It's a very old proverb of mankind. As you sow, so shall you reap.  Sometime you may have killed that man, and then sometime now he comes to kill you... What we have done, the result of that comes to us whenever it comes, either today, tomorrow, hundred years later, hundred lives later, whatever, whatever.  And so, it's our own karma. That is why that philosophy in every religion: Killing is sin. Killing is sin in every religion. Whosoever sins, whoever is killed, it doesn't matter. It's a sin.  And sin.. is a punishable offense. Because when you sin, when you've killed some man, what you are killing? You are killing the cosmic potential within the individual.  Individual is cosmic. Individual potential of life is cosmic potential. Individual is divine deep inside. Transcendental experience awakens that divinity in man...When you kill a man like that you deprive him from getting to his human right.
 * Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, in CNN Larry King Weekend:Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, (2002)

 * Our message is the same age-old message of life. We have taught in the world for half a century: “life is bliss, free from problems, it’s not necessary to suffer”.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Main Message - from Victory Day, October 21, 2007 Maharishi Channel

 * Every education minister today has a chance of introducing in his education today some simple technique, some simple natural insights into the total reality of life, which the physical sciences have explored in terms of “Unified Field”, which the ancient Vedic wisdom has located in the Self referral consciousness of everyone.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Main Message - from Victory Day, October 21, 2007 Maharishi Channel

 * And it’s completely not necessary for anyone to make mistake because everyone’s Self is Total Knowledge, Veda. Veda is Total Knowledge, and Veda is the nature of the Self, and bliss is the nature of the Self. And even in the outside world everyone wants to move in the direction of greater joy.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Main Message - from Victory Day, October 21, 2007 Maharishi Channel

 * Wherever there is greater joy, there is the direction of everyone’s activity, because the innermost of everyone is really the lighted lamp of Total Knowledge, total organising power of knowledge, it’s all bliss, it’s not necessary for the people to suffer.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Main Message - from Victory Day, October 21, 2007 Maharishi Channel

 * And now we are wanting everyone in every country through the education department of every government to unfold that inner content of life. It’s very simple to light the lamp is so easy. And yet that process of lighting the lamp is enough to eliminate the difficulties in the darkness.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi's Main Message - from Victory Day, October 21, 2007 Maharishi Channel

 * It is possible for every man to go deep within and saturate his conscious mind with inner happiness with that unlimited intelligence that dwells at the source of thought.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Lake Louise, Canada (1968) - MaharishiUniversity

 * The principle of TM is simple, being is bliss in its nature, infinite happiness, mind is always moving in the direction of greater happiness. It is the experience of everyone: wherever the mind goes, it goes in the direction of greater happiness.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Lake Louise, Canada (1968) - MaharishiUniversity

 * And because the nature of inner being is bliss, infinite happiness, therefore the mind during TM takes that inward course in a most spontaneous manner.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Lake Louise, Canada (1968) - MaharishiUniversity

 * In this meditation we do not concentrate or control the mind. We let the mind follow its natural instinct toward greater happiness, and it goes within and it gains bliss consciousness in the being.
 * Quoted from: Maharishi Mahesh Yogi - Lake Louise, Canada (1968) - MaharishiUniversity

 * Transcendental meditation is something that can be defined as a means to do what one wants to do in a better way, in a right way, for maximum results. It's a program that the mind begins to experience its own finer impressions, finer thoughts, and then finally transcends the finest thought. And that is the level of what they call self-referral pure consciousness, which is the ultimate reality of life, pure intelligence from where the creation emerges, from where the administration of life is maintained, from where physical expression of the universe has its basis.
 * Quoted from: Larry King Weekend, Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (2002-05-12)

 * That is why he took so many hundreds of years to be known.
 * In reply to a comment that Jesus Christ didn't have a public relations team.
 * Quoted in "Looking back" Juan Rodriguez, The Gazette. Montreal, Que.: February 19, 2011

 * They [ the Beatles] came backstage after one of my lectures, and they said to me: 'Even from an early age we have been seeking a highly spiritual existence. We tried drugs and that didn't work.' They are such practical and intelligent young boys that it took them only two days to find that Transcendental Meditation is the answer.
 * Quoted from, Beatles Anthology, by The Beatles, Chronicle Books, 2000, page 261

 * I lack only $1 billion to make the world a better world.
 * Quoted from: Larry King Weekend, Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (2002-05-12)

 * I believe in God. And I believe in the custody of God vested in kings. And I'm very happy to have your name as "King." It's the King!
 * Quoted from: Larry King Weekend, Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (2002-05-12)

 * They think democracy -- I used to say "damn the democracy", because it's not a stable government.
 * Quoted from: Larry King Weekend, Interview With Maharishi Mahesh Yogi (2002-05-12)

 * I am closing my performance.
 * Quoted from: Foundation of the Brahmanand Saraswati Trust, four weeks before his death.(2008-01-11) Achievements 1957-2008

About Maharishi Mahesh Yogi

 * Whilst I am deeply saddened by his passing, my memories of him will only be joyful ones. He was a great man who worked tirelessly for the people of the world and the cause of unity.
 * Quoted from: Sir Paul McCartney "Beatles pay tribute to late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi", AFP (February 7, 2008)

 * One of the wise men I met in my life was the Maharishi. I always was impressed by his joy and I truly believe he knows where he is going.
 * Quoted from: Ringo Starr "Beatles pay tribute to late Maharishi Mahesh Yogi", AFP (February 7, 2008)

 * Well, actually, he does love laughing. He finds life amusing, but it's from a higher level that perhaps we don't have access to. He'd laugh at things and we'd be baffled. But he was a great speaker. Very wise.
 * Quoted from: Patti Boyd (former wife of George Harrison and Eric Clapton)  "Patti Boyd: My Life As a Muse" Independent Minds

 * Maharishi was a unique combination of an emperor and an ascetic, a perfect disciple and a Jagadguru, a modern scientist and a deep traditionalist
 * Quoted from: Ravi Shankar, founder Art of Living Foundation
 * Column on Rediff News website, India. (2008-02-11) Rediff News

 * Mahesh Yogi, who gave himself the title Maharishi—“great sage”—had found a formula for instant meditation, which he promised would deliver samadhi, a holy state of expanded consciousness, without going to all the trouble of fasting and endless prayer. He converted Europeans by the thousands to “Transcendental Meditation” before arriving in the United States in 1968, bringing with him a fad for Indian clothes and Indian music. Many celebrities, including the Beatles and the Beach Boys, followed the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. But when the Beatles went to India to spend three months studying under the Maharishi, Ringo Starr, always said to be the least reflective of the quartet, returned with his wife, Maureen, to his suburban London mansion after ten days, unhappy with the great sage’s accommodations. “Maureen and I are a bit funny about our food, and we don’t like spicy things,” Ringo explained. The Maharishi was of limited appeal to poet and seasoned chanter Ginsberg because he opposed LSD and urged young people to accept the draft. Ginsberg continued to chant, oppose the war, and champion the rights of homosexuals and the use of hallucinogenic drugs.
 * Mark Kurlansky, 1968: The Year that Rocked the World (2004), p. 130-131 ISBN 0-345-45581-9

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Talk:Citizen Kane

cool

what's the exact quote when Kane says to his reporter 'you provide the story, and I'll provide the war'?

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Added back sourced material
Added back sourced material. Not sure why formatting was removed on lots of the citations that had used citation templates. -- Cirt (talk) 04:19, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I notice that the edit with summary "add back sourced material" was actually a reduction of 4,101 bytes. I have not made time to analyze what was actually added in this edit, if anything, but I see that Kalki has already reviewed and revised the page. In the future, it would be helpful to be a little more straightforward when summarizing edits, and to use separate edits for clarity when making major reorganizations, additions, and removals all at once. ~ Ningauble (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The page is being used in part as an attack page on women. Those quotes should be removed, they're not really quoteworthy anyways. -- Cirt (talk) 18:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This thread is about "Added back sourced material". What was added? Are you now saying the added material should be removed? ~ Ningauble (talk) 18:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm saying a majority of this quote page is being used as an attack piece. -- Cirt (talk) 18:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, what was added? Did the added material tip the balance in what is now an article having an overwhelming majority of quotes that are not attacks on women? I thought that was the case before your edit. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have not lately delved into surmisals of what might be the motives of some of those who have added some of the quotes Cirt had removed, but they are on the subject of the page, and present various views on the subject, in accord with a properly NPOV stance which PERMITS many points of view to be presented and does not DICTATE what can or cannot be presented based upon any highly artificial (and thus likely highly biased) criteria. ~ ♞☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 19:11, 8 March 2012 (UTC) + tweak

Pictures
Let's keep the pictures simple, and the captions simple descriptions of the subjects (name, year). -- Cirt (talk) 04:23, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your recent edit in drastically removing images also removed MANY quotes. As any competent or genuinely well-intentioned editor on this project who has spent more than a little time on it should clearly know, the images on pages at Wikiquote have been used to draw further attention to some of the notable quotes, and augment awareness of some of the things the quotes indicate or allude to, they are generally NOT provided here simply to provide "Wikipedia lite" information or mini essays describing the subject of the photos. Such actions as removing them and their quote captions are once again apparently an attempt by a single editor to ignore, defy and quite suddenly and drastically and dictatorially alter STANDARD practices which have been established here for many YEARS. ~ ♞☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 17:11, 8 March 2012 (UTC) + tweaks

Removed non relevant image
This image is non-relevant and violates WQ:NPOV. Removed it. -- Cirt (talk) 18:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not quite sure why you feel this image is not relevant - or why you feel the quotes you removed from the page are not quoteworthy. Can you explain your rationale? ~ UDScott (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Precisely how is this image relevant? -- Cirt (talk) 18:36, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe for a page on Anarcha-feminism, but it fails WQ:NPOV to display it here, especially so prominently, especially without quotes about it or that relate to the image somehow or explain it. -- Cirt (talk) 18:43, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As a long standing symbol used by MANY feminists it is very relevant. I believe much of your opinions on "NPOV" (Neutral Point of View) are extremely deficient and very definitely extremely POV in rather authoritarian ways, from my perspectives. The policies stated, as crude and rudimentary as they are, being only slight alterations of the WIkipedia policy in ways not fully considerative of differences of aims, basically state that our mission is "best served not by advancing or detracting particular points of view on any given subject, but by trying to present a fair, neutral description of the facts, among which are the facts that various interpretations and points of view exist. (Of course, there are limits to which points of view are worth mentioning, and this can be an area of conflict.)" and that "writing in NPOV style requires recognising that even widely held or widely respected points of view are not necessarily all-encompassing."
 * We do not actually do much writing here within articles, but do present MANY points of view — and you are basically asserting that the points of view of people who have used such symbols for many years as ones of feminism should NOT be presented or even considered — and points of view of some of the quotes you have been removing (which you, or I, or many of us, might not approve), should simply be removed as "insulting" of feminism — and that Is NOT a genuine NPOV stance. It states "This might be viewed as an adversarial system, but hopefully a polite one. One is expected to approximate NPOV to the best of one's ability and welcome improvements brought by others in good faith." One does NOT even approximate NPOV by EXCLUDING material of various types clearly related to the issue. ~ ♞☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 18:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC) + tweaks
 * It's not the top most single prominent image at article on Wikipedia, and it shouldn't be here. -- Cirt (talk) 18:57, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
 * In deference to your objections to the image labeled File:Radical feminism.svg I have replaced it with the more stylized File:Womanpower logo.svg which is prominent on the page you cite ~ ♞☮♌Kalki·†·⚓⊙☳☶⚡ 19:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much,, I appreciate that, very much! :) -- Cirt (talk) 19:04, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Much better
This is much better, thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 19:02, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Quotations showing gender discrimination
Where to put a quotation like this? --Nemo 22:18, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * The real offence, as she ultimately perceived, was her having a mind of her own at all. Her mind was to be his — attached to his own like a small garden-plot to a deer-park.
 * Henry James, The Portrait of a Lady, ch. XLII.

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Benjamin Spock

Benjamin McLane Spock (2 May 1903 – 15 March 1998) was an American pediatrician and author.

Quotes

 * I really learned it all from mothers.
 * Time magazine (8 April 1985)

 * I've come to the realization that a lot of our problems are because of a dearth of spiritual values.
 * Associated Press interview (1992)

 * People have said, "You've turned your back on pediatrics." I said, "No. It took me until I was in my 60s to realize that politics was a part of pediatrics."
 * Associated Press interview (1992)

 * I would say that the surest measure of a man's or a woman's maturity is the harmony, style, joy, and dignity he creates in his marriage, and the pleasure and inspiration he provides for his spouse.
 * Quoted in Older & Wiser Edited by G. B. Dianda and B. J. Hofmayer (1995)

Dr. Spock's Baby and Child Care (1945)

 * Quotations from Dr. Spock's Baby and Child Care first published in 1945, with many updated editions since.

 * You know more than you think you do.
 * First sentence. This is printed beneath the heading "Trust Yourself" , and thus is often quoted as "Trust yourself. You know more than you think you do. "

 * Don't take too seriously all that the neighbors say. Don't be overawed by what the experts say. Don't be afraid to trust your own common sense.

 * The more people have studied different methods of bringing up children the more they have come to the conclusion that what good mothers and fathers instinctively feel like doing for their babies is usually best after all. All parents do their best job when they have a natural, easy confidence in themselves. Better to make a few mistakes from being natural than to try to do everything letter-perfect out of a feeling of worry.
 * Ch. 1.

 * The fact is that child rearing is a long, hard job, the rewards are not always immediately obvious, the work is undervalued, and parents are just as human and almost as vulnerable as their children.

 * There are only two things a child will share willingly—communicable diseases and his mother's age.

 * In automobile terms, the child supplies the power but the parents have to do the steering.

Seventh edition (1998)

 * Coauthored with Steven J. Parker. New York: Pocket Books, 1998. ISBN 0-671-53763-6

 * I no longer recommend dairy products after the age of two years. … Of course, there was a time when cow's milk was considered very desirable. But research, along with clinical experience, has forced doctors and nutritionists to rethink this recommendation. It is an area where there are still disagreements among scientists, but there are several points that most everyone agrees on. First of all, other calcium sources offer many advantages that dairy products do not have. Most green leafy vegetables and beans have a form of calcium that is absorbed as well as or even a bit better than that in milk. Along with this calcium come vitamins, iron, complex carbohydrates, and fiber. Calcium-enriched soy or rice drinks are just as tasty on cereal as cow's milk (once you get used to them), and they are free of animal proteins and cholesterol. These beverages, as well as calcium-enriched orange and other juices, provide as much calcium, ounce per ounce, as cow's milk. Vegetables and legumes can provide a healthy source of calcium, along with many other nutritional advantages.
 * pp. 331-332

 * We used to think of cow's milk as a nearly perfect food. However, over the past several years, researchers have found new information that has caused many of us to change our opinion. This has provoked a lot of understandable controversy, but I have come to believe that cow's milk is not necessary for children. First, it turns out that the fat in cow's milk is not the kind of fat ("essential fatty acids") needed for brain development. Instead, milk fat is too rich in the saturated fats that promote artery blockages. Also, cow's milk can make it harder for a child to stay in iron balance. Milk is extremely low in iron and slows down iron absorption. It can also cause subtle blood loss in the digestive tract that causes the child to lose iron. … Some children have sensitivities to milk proteins, which show up as ear problems, respiratory problems, or skin conditions. Milk also has traces of antibiotics, estrogens, and other things a child does not need. There is, of course, nothing wrong with human breast milk — it is perfect for infants. For older children, there are many good soy and rice milk products and even nondairy "ice creams" that are well worth trying. If you are using cow's milk in your family, I would encourage you to give these alternatives a try.
 * p. 346

 * We used to recommend meat, poultry, and fish for children because they are rich in protein and iron. However, we now know that there are harmful effects of a meaty diet, particularly changes in the arteries and weight problems, and that these changes begin in childhood. When children develop a taste for meats, it is hard to break this habit later on. It turns out that children can get plenty of protein and iron from vegetables, beans, and other plant foods that avoid the fat and cholesterol that are in animal products.
 * pp. 346-347

Decent and Indecent: Our Personal and Political Behavior (1970)

 * Quotations from Decent and Indecent: Our Personal and Political Behavior, New York: McCall Publishing Company, 1970. ISBN 978-0841500013

 * Man can be the most affectionate and altruistic of creatures, yet he's potentially more vicious than any other. He is the only one who can be persuaded to hate millions of his own kind whom he has never seen and to kill as many as he can lay his hands on in the name of his tribe or his God.
 * p. 13

 * This solution has great superficial appeal--all the excitement of secret, forbidden, romantic sexuality without family responsibility and family grubbiness.
 * p. 62

 * Most middle-class whites have no idea what it feels like to be subjected to police who are routinely suspicious, rude, belligerent, and brutal.
 * p. 103

 * As parents and teachers we need to bring up more of our children with generosity of spirit.
 * p. 132

Quotes about Spock

 * Our dream ticket would have been one consisting of Martin Luther King and Benjamin Spock, linking the issues of civil rights and peace.
 * Dorothy Ray Healey California Red: A Life in the American Communist Party (1990)

 * An entire generation grew up unacquainted with the thwack of paddle against bottom.
 * Jonathan Yardley, in American Heritage (April 1985)

 * Some physicians who have called him excessively permissive just didn't understand and gave his understanding approach to child rearing a negative label. He was blamed for the radical behavior of the youth in the '60s. But that didn't emerge from Spock's teachings. It was far more a reflection of the social and political climate.
 * Dr. Marvin Drellich, professor of psychiatry at New York Medical College

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Epeli Ganilau

Ratu Epeli Ganilau (10 October 1951 – 23 March 2023) was a Fijian chief, soldier, and politician. He was the founder of the National Alliance Party (NAP).

Miscellaneous quotes

 * Race is a fact of life and is not a problem unless people make it out to be so. (2003)

 * The process of electing members of Parliament to represent the people is at the heart of western democracy. Fiji courts are also part of an independent judicial system which is firmly rooted in western democracy. The basic civil lesson that our children learn in school is that democracy is a government of the people, by the people, for the people … Mr Qarase should answer whether he wants the western system of governance which allows him to be prime minister or the Fijian tradition which requires the chiefs to rule by virtue of their birthright and rank. Otherwise, he is just being hypocritical to save face. (4 September 2005, reacting to a speech made by Qarase at the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association on 29 August, claiming that democracy was alien to Fiji).

Excerpts from a speech at the launch of the NAP, 8 April 2005

 * We are here today, not so much as to launch a political party but more so and more importantly we are here today to project a vision that will inspire hope.

 * For too long, we have allowed fear to dictate our politics and suspicions, to shape how we perceive other communities.

 * If we learn how to love others, really, truly love them, not for who we want them to be, but rather for who they are – for the perfect souls that God has created – then we have learnt one of the greatest lessons of life.

Excerpts from a speech to the Fiji Institute of Accountants, 28 April 2005

 * I would like to make the point that we cannot undo the past but we can learn from it, and we cannot predict the future but we can shape and build it.

 * Now is not the time to be simply paying lip-service, it is time to stand up and be counted, to stand together and not to be swayed or moved from our path towards true unity, and the peace and security that we aspire to achieve.

 * To create a Fiji where people of different ethnicities, religions and cultures can live and work together for the good of all, can differ without rancour, govern without violence and accept responsibility as reasonable people intent on serving the best interest of all.

From a speech to the Lautoka Rotary Club, 13 May 2005

 * When we leave out people on the grounds of ethnicity we limit our options. As such, we become poorer because we are not making optimum use of our human resources, thereby depriving us of the returns and full benefit of our capabilities.

Remarks made at the launch of the Navua branch of the NAP, 4 June 2005

 * There are those people who are acting irresponsibly … and spreading their gospel of fear and hate and not doing anything to help the ordinary people put bread on their table for their families.

 * I believe we must not fight fire with fire, we will be burnt. The only way in which we can stop these extremist elements from destroying the nation is by ensuring that they are not given an opportunity to be in a position of controlling the destiny of the nation.

 * This is what the National Alliance stands for: To respect all people, regardless of ethnicity, gender and religion, to uphold godly principles and moral values and to respect the rule of law.

Reaction to comments from Archbishop Petero Mataca, 23 June 2005

 * It does not say much about the credibility of the Prime Minister for him to be saying publicly that the Christian churches support the bill after these deliberate acts of deception. ''(In response to Mataca's claim that Prime Minister Laisenia Qarase had misled a delegation of church leaders as to the true contents of the government's Reconciliation and Unity Bill, which Mataca and Ganilau both oppose).

Guest speech to the conference of the Fiji Labour Party, Lautoka, 30 July 2005

 * For too long we have kept ourselves in our ethnic boxes and continue to see ourselves as either indigenous Fijians, Indo-Fijians, Europeans, part-Europeans, Chinese, Pacific Islanders, or others. For as long as that wall remains we will continue to view one another with suspicion and distrust. This is the fear that is fueled by political manouvering to keep us divided while for some to remain in power.

 * Government seems unaware that the more race-based measures it tries to put in place the faster that time bomb burns to detonation point.

 * I would like to offer for the unity of our people, the adoption of multiracialism as the core ideal in searching for a clear way ahead. We need to get out of our comfort zones, our ethnic boxes and truly embrace multiracialism.

 * For our people to have lived together for one and a quarter century it is difficult to believe that at a personal level so little cultural transfers have taken place.

 * We need to marshal and direct our energy toward building this nation into a peaceful, prosperous and proud bequest to our children.

 * As a country, we have not started to see how much we can achieve as a nation and we will not have any idea of our strength if we continue to deny ourselves the opportunity to come together as one people. We have not been able to pool the resources and talent of our people and exploit them for our common good. It will continue to evade us if we continue to stress our ethnicity and group differences.

 * As a people, we have not been able to chart a clear map toward a common destiny. We will not be able to do this if our leaders continue to promote sectional and separate development.

 * We pay lip service to multiracialism but we fail to put it into practice because we continue to see most things and ourselves from our own ethnic perspective. So long as the personal attitude persists, we will not see us one people of Fiji and our future will not be secure.

 * What I would like to see is a greater degree of interaction that will lead to a much better cross-cultural understanding than what we have in Fiji today.

Speech at the launch of the NAP campaign for the 2006 election, Rakiraki, 6 August 2005

 * We should not allow ourselves, individually or our ethnic communities to become easy tools for politics of race that will continue to segregate us mentally and emotionally.

 * Touted as a legislation that will promote unity, it has done exactly the opposite. It has divided this country, apparently and sadly along racial lines. ''(on the government's controversial Reconciliation, Tolerance, and Unity Bill, which Ganilau opposes).

 * The danger … is that unscrupulous politicians have continued to preach their racially divided visions for Fiji.

Father's Day comment, 3 September 2005

 * To all the families out there without their fathers they must remember that our eternal Father in heaven will be there for us at all times and we should celebrate because of that.

Address to the Pan Pacific HIV/AIDS Conference, Auckland, New Zealand, October 2005
Source: Fiji Times, 31 October 2005.

 * No nation would refuse to fight an invading army because some expert argued it would be cheaper to invest in defenses against future invasions. It is not a matter of prioritising lives now over lives tomorrow.

 * I am making a very personal commitment myself. This is a war I am not accustomed to but it is a global war and we are in a global army, fighting against a global enemy - HIV/AIDS.

 * We cannot afford to ignore HIV/AIDS. We can only ignore this battle at the cost of being regarded by future generations of Pacific Islanders as lacking the will, the foresight, the understanding to tackle this issue, which threatens our very future.

 * We must move with speed to mobilise all sectors of society in a stepped-up drive against HIV/AIDS, accelerating the pace to halt the virus before the Pacific's window of opportunity slams shut.

 * If this is neglected, any effort at development will fail, because factions will emerge with their own form of protest that would drive underground anyone seeking help. This will endanger whatever development has taken place.

 * (Silence) denies the existence of HIV/AIDS, and prevents discussion of the human rights violations fuelling the pandemic, and constrains the mobilisation of resources and partnerships required to expand the prevention and care (of HIV/AIDS).

Views on the chiefly system
''Source: Fiji Times, 20 November 2005. Ganilau made these comments in the wake of a decision by the Rewa Provincial Council to leave the position of Chairperson vacant, until the government changed the Constitution to allow chiefs who are also politicians or public servants to take up Provincial Council chairmanships).''

 * The decision by the Rewa Provincial Council to leave the chairperson's position of the council vacant until the Government has changed the constitution to enable the paramount chief of the province to take the position seems strange in this day and age.

 * In any case paramount traditional heads of provinces should, in my view, welcome the fact that their people who have had education and experience can relieve them as in the traditional line of delegation from the many functions the chiefs are required to do now, particularly if they are public servants or have not had the background of education and service as their people.

 * To share responsibility with the people of the province should be, in my view, the proudest bequest of a chief to his people.

80th birthday celebration of Satya Sai Baba, Lautoka, 23 November 2005

 * How often have we seen the bigotry of the religious fanaticisms and intolerance that have occurred in Fiji?

 * Temples have been desecrated, places of worship are destroyed, all in the prejudice view that one religion is the true one and others are not.

 * We must learn that all religions proclaim the unity of divinity and preach the cultivation of universal love without regards to caste, creed, country or colour.

 * There are daily acts of violence to the general public and in all levels of government we have witnessed corrupt practices of bribery, extortion, misuse of public funds, abuse of office and all the pervasive singling out of one race. But in reality, to use it as an excuse so that a select few will benefit in wealth and position.

NAPF convention, 17 December 2005
Source: Fiji Sun, 17 December 2005

 * One (path) is confrontation and the politics of exclusion. The other is the path of cooperation and trust. We either embrace the concept of multiracialism or we go down the path of racial vilification and alienation.

 * All of us are mere mortals and must consult. The spectacle of Parliament and the antics of our politicians serve only to distract us from the very real problems that we face as a nation.

 * Whether some people like it or not, Fiji is already a multiracial society. We have different races, but that does not mean we should only work for the good of our own race. We have to truly understand one another, learn each other’s languages, and truly work together. There is huge potential in Fiji, and we would be amazed to see what we will achieve, if we work together.

New Year message, 02 January 2006
Source: Fiji Times, 02 January 2006

 * It (2006) will be the year of rebuilding and reclaiming the lost confidence, the lost spirit and the lost soul of our beloved country.

 * As a loving religious and caring nation the spiritual dimension of our resolve is to exercise restraint, goodwill, tolerance and understanding with all races in Fiji.

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User talk:John-1107~enwikiquote

By the way, I am sorry to see you made a redirect to your user page on main namespace. Wikiquote is not a free hosting service, nor a quote of ordinary internet users. We deleted many articles from Web forum. I deleted your making redirect. I hope you will understand it and take it not wrong. I expect you will be a good part of this community and enjoy being here.

Again welcome! --Aphaia 23:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hello, John-1107, please read my message the above again. It is not a good manner to have an article of user's quotes nor a redirect to it on main namespace. Your understanding will be appreciated. And I hope you esteem our policy and request its deletion by yourself. Thanks. --Aphaia 00:40, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

John-1107, I want to reinforce Aphaia's polite admonitions, because your actions are taking attention away from more pressing administrative matters. Wikiquote policy is to restrict personal quotes and quotes about unfamous people to user pages. If you recreate a redirect in the main articlespace to your user page again, I will block your account for 48 hours. Further attempts may result in your account being permanently blocked. If you feel this is unreasonable, you can bring this up to the Wikiquote community at Village pump. If you are blocked at the time, you may do so after the block expires. You can also post a message to my talk page to discuss this if you wish. — Jeff Q (talk) 09:23, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

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 * The quotes at my page are my quotes about my friends from school. They're not unfamous people. I know them very well and they knew i'm famous. Besides, i show these quotes to my friends at school. What's wrong with that?--John V 23:14, 3 May 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps we have a misunderstanding here. The fact that anyone can edit nearly anything on a wiki project does not mean that any content is acceptable by that project. Every wiki project has a purpose and a set of guidelines for content. It is incumbent upon the participants to follow those guidelines in order to promote the purpose of the project. Wikiquote's purpose is to collect quotes from people and works that are notable in a worldwide context.

"Famous" and "notable" are relative terms, and are only shorthand for the more specific concept of notability in a worldwide audience. I have some measure of fame myself within my industry, which extends well beyond the limits of nearly any high school, but I do not qualify for the adjective "famous" in a worldwide compendium of quotations (as impressed as I might be by my own profundity). Wikiquote is such a compendium and exists to collect quotations from people who are much more notable than you or I (or your friends), people who have published books, given well-publicized speeches, performed nationally or internationally-known works, etc. The word "famous" is usually used for these purposes, not the one you espouse, so it's a bit disingenuous to claim fame for you and your friends. If you appear on a CSI episode, in the latest Star Wars, publish a best-selling novel or a critically-acclaimed thesis, or appear as a primary subject in a high school course on literature or science, you may very well be famous enough for inclusion in Wikiquote's articles. If you are wildly beloved by your entire high school and hometown, but are virtually unknown outside of it, you are certainly not famous enough. There are exceedingly few people who contribute to any wiki projects that are famous enough to merit their own articles. (Even the people who have founded various WikiMedia projects have had to face notability challenges from the communities they founded. These are very high standards.)

However, for the benefit of Wikiquote users, we follow Wikipedia's (and other WikiMedia projects') policy of allowing personal information on User pages, which are not treated as authoritative works, or even required to be the least bit factual. They are still subject to approval or deletion by community will, but this is rarely exercised in most wikis and (as far as I know) has never been an issue on Wikiquote. But Wikiquote is not a repository for personal information, a personal website, or a blog. There are many such services available, often for free, that provide these capabilities; Wikiquote is not one of them.

I hope that you will consider adding to the existing quotations by notable people, especially if you have been inspired or amused by people or works you've studied in your school courses, or even in books, movies, and TV shows you've enjoyed. But if you continue to attempt to post your own or your friends' quotes in the main articlespace without any evidence of notability, and against repeated admonitions to discontinue this practice, you will be blocked. I don't like being this blunt, but you seem to be more insistent than most in trying to get into the articlespace based on your own unsupported idea of "fame". Most of the people who have been this persistent have been obvious vandals, and we block them rigorously without debate. I'm hoping that, in your case, we simply have a misunderstanding of the purpose of Wikiquote, and that you can become a valuable participant in the community. Thank you for your attention. — Jeff Q (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

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Frank Bainimarama

Commodore Frank Bainimarama is the Commander of the Fijian Military Forces and a former acting Head of State.

2000

 * All the nation has been saddened by the extent to which the country has fallen during the last week. I have therefore, with much reluctance, assumed executive authority.
 * (29 May 2000, announcing that he had taken over the government from President Ratu Sir Kamisese Mara

 * If we don't put our foot down, they will release every man and his dog.
 * (Criticizing the government's policy of releasing persons sentenced for involvement in the 2000 coup).

2004

 * If we don't act, this country is going to go to the dogs and no investor will want to come here.
 * (8 December 2004).

2005

 * You have to give it (the tiger) room. If you don't give it room, it will bite you.
 * (4 January 2005; seen as a veiled threat to politicians not to interfere with the military).

 * I don't have to be nice to people who are causing great damage to the nation … I refuse to be nice to people who want to overthrow what the military and the security forces have been doing to maintain law and order in this country in the past five years since the illegal overthrow of the Labour Government … I refuse to be nice to people like Jioji Kotobalavu and Qoriniasi Bale. I don't have to be nice to anyone trying to destabilise what the army has built.
 * (30 May 2005).

Excerpts from an address to Fiji's Great Council of Chiefs, 28 July 2005

 * When we wrong God, he does not let us go, he makes us pay for our wrongs but through the death of his own son Jesus Christ. When God's people (Jews) wronged him, he weakened them in battle and caused them to be captives in Babylon for 70 years.

 * "Let's do right in the eyes of God!"

 * "Coups will be taken lightly if we condone this Bill, without justice there is no peace. If you honourable chiefs agree that those involved in the coup be forgiven, it will prove that we support the wrong and will be at odds with the integrity of God."

 * "Our Fiji today is a new Fiji where individual freedom is protected and not a Fiji solely for Fijians. Wise decisions from this august house will promote multiracial harmony and true friendship.

 * "This Bill is not about crime committed within one group of people but involves many races living in Fiji. Therefore we can not apply one law onto another. We need to protect the whole population; the different faiths; cultures and traditions."

 * "The Bill will legitimise the 2000 coup and will weaken the law and order agencies. All the good work of rebuilding Fiji to what it is today will be undone. The freeing of anyone (even if their crimes are politically-motivated) will show to the world that we are a nation that condones law breakers. It also means that we support terrorists as the Police Commissioner has commented."

 * "Why should only a few people be freed and not others when we are all serving under the same law?"

 * "When we wrong God, he does not let us go, he makes us pay for our wrongs but through the death of his own son Jesus Christ. When God's people (Jews) wronged him, he weakened them in battle and caused them to be captives in Babylon for 70 years."

 * "The military stand is that reconciliation is only possible after justice is served."

 * "Who's promoting the Bill? These are people in the current Government who participated in the 2000 coup. Some have been convicted, others are facing trial, there are still others left whom the long arm of the law should get at."

 * "Following the 2000 coup, this august house did not agree to forgive the perpetrators but you decided that justice will take its course. You are confronted with a similar decision now. The military humbly requests that you display the same wisdom then to protect our land now."

 * "Remember the words of the Bible in Amos 5:24, 'Let justice roll on like a river, righteousness like a never-falling stream'."

Reaction to statements in Parliament from Senator Apisai Tora, 23-24 August 2005
Reported by Fiji Village news service.

 * "Those threats they (Apisai Tora and Tomasi Vakatora) came up with should be condemned. He (Tora) has come up with the same threats that politicians like him throw up before elections. That if any other party especially Labour wins, there will be instability … These people are forcing the population to vote out of fear. These types of talks have to be condemned now."

 * "This confirms the RFMF view that the Bill has nothing to do with Reconciliation and everything to do with the selfish agenda that George Speight brought into Parliament in 2000 to gather support and ensure his leadership. We better stop lying to ourselves, we better stop these people lying to us."

Reaction to calls from Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer for the Military to stay out of politics (30 September 2005)
From a press conference at Suva's Queen Elizabeth Barracks.

 * "As long as this bill hangs over our heads there is no credibility in what people in leadership do."

 * "The passing of the bill will be a continuation of all the events of 2000."

 * "I told Mr Downer that I was disappointed with his comments and said that we should stay out of politics. I told him his country has not experienced a coup to feel what the military went through here. He can't compare the situation there to this side."

 * "We were never involved in politics. It was the political party that pushed their agenda, the Bill, forward and we only reacted to the consequences the Bill would bring."

 * "We are not interfering with any political agenda or plan. We are only doing our job and that is on the grounds of security."

 * "This is where we are coming from. The Bill is a continuation of the 2000 coup and it is the consequences of the Bill that we are looking at."

 * "We are not going to take this Bill for granted. We asked them (the Daily Post reporters) to leave the room because they are for the Bill. And if they are for the Bill, this means they are anti-RFMF."

 * "We will maintain our stand despite criticisms." (on being told by Downer that the international community would not be happy about the Military's intervention in the political arena).

Warning to the Great Council of Chiefs, 9 March 2006
Quoted in the Fiji Sun, 9 March 2006.

 * "I don’t think they should be discussing the Bill. It represents the lies of those that took the people into Parliament. The same opportunists are using the GCC to push the Bill through."

 * "There are two things that need to be taken away. First the lies and this government which needs to follow the law and imprison those implicated in the coup. The chiefs are being used just like those that have been made to believe that there is $6million in the bank for them. This Bill was pushed by the SDL party, the very same people that supported what happened in 2000 and there are opportunists seating in the council looking to mislead the council."

Quotes about Frank Bainimarama

 * Colonel Ioane Naivalurua, Land Force Commander but now illegal Commissioner of Prison: "Courageous, strong and … a saviour of Fiji in this time of need". (23 June 2005).

 * Senator Adi Koila Nailatikau and now interim military government minister: "The commander is doing a wonderful job because he is not only speaking in his personal capacity as Commander. He is speaking as the Commander of the Fiji battalion in Fiji and those serving overseas, and he has the support of the silent majority." (24 July 2005, referring to Bainimarama's opposition to the Reconciliation and Unity Bill (q.v).

 * Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer: "I do not see the Military Commander of Fiji as a political player in all this. Let me make this very clear: it is not the job of a military commander to play politics; it is the job of the military commander to command troops and the Government is to decide where those troops get deployed, whether to Iraq or RAMSI. It is not the role of the commander to play domestic politics." (29 September 2005, on Bainimarama's opposition to the Reconciliation and Unity Bill (q.v).

 * '''Senator James Ah Koy: "I think he is doing a good job and I really support him for his strong words against Mr Downer." (1 October 2005)
 * "He is a strong man and we are blessed to have him in office. His priority is national security and that is why he is coming out strong on the Bill." (1 October 2005).

 * Josaia Waqabaca: "Commander Bainimarama is clean and fighting for the truth. The stand he is taking is going to save the Fijian race. Today, in the streets ordinary Fijians are talking about the truth and cleanliness, which is hard to find in this government." (11 January 2006; quoted in Fiji Sun).

 * Maciu Navakasuasua: "Commander Bainimarama holds the key in putting this country on the rightful path." (11 January 2006; quoted in Fiji Sun).

 * Ropate Sivo, General Secretary of the Conservative Alliance: "I ask Frank to remain where he is and not to interfere in politics. He should not think that he will always be commander because there are other capable people that can do the job. He is only hungry for power and just because he helped bring the present people into power as an interim government, that does not give him the right to threaten the present government." (Quoted in the Fiji Sun, 9 March 2006.).

 * Saula Telawa, President of the New Nationalist Party: "He (Bainimarama) needs to place more faith in God, only God has the answer, we cannot keep bringing up the past. In making decisions about the people, we need to have faith. What has been done should be forgotten as always dwelling on it will not bring about anything good. He is only making things and the future difficult." (Quoted in the Fiji Sun, 9 March 2006.).

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User:Davidcannon

 * On 12 November 2005, I compiled my 50th quote page.

It is easier to find me on Wikipedia, where I spend most of my time. As much of my work on Wikipedia consists of writing and editing biographies, I decided to create some parallel pages here with quotations from some of the people I have written about. There are a small number of quotes from persons whose biographies do not (yet) exist on Wikipedia. These will follow in due course.

I made my first edit on Wikiquote on 20 April 2004. After a year of virtually no activity, I returned in April 2005. I made my 100th edit on 19 May, my 200th on 11 June, my 300th on 30 July, my 400th on 1 October, and my 500th on 18 December. As of 29 July 2024, there are a total of compilations of quotes in English, of which I have created 55 and contributed to 5 others. Altogether, I have made a total of 529 edits to 74 unique pages. 423 of these edits are to actual quotes.

Persons whose quotes I compiled or added to
Most of the quotes that I have compiled are from Fijian people, as their biographies comprise the largest component of my work on Wikipedia. There are a few others. The quotes I've compiled are mostly, though not exclusively, from people I admire greatly. In a few cases, my admiration is for the words rather than the person: I am not a supporter of John Kerry, for example, but his concession speech after the 2000 election was one of the finest speeches I have ever heard. I'm sure that defeated candidates of the future will quote from it, or at least allude to it.

Quotes I have compiled

 * Ah Koy, James
 * Akinola, Peter
 * Ali, Ahmed
 * Baba, Tupeni
 * Bainimarama, Frank
 * Bavadra, Timoci
 * Beddoes, Mick
 * Bokini, Ratu Ovini
 * Bune, Poseci
 * Caucau, Adi Asenaca
 * Chaudhry, Mahendra
 * Fatiaki, Daniel
 * Foster, Sir Robert Sidney
 * Ganilau, Adi Ateca
 * Ganilau, Ratu Epeli
 * Ganilau, Ratu Sir Penaia
 * Geagea, Samir
 * Gemayel, Solange
 * Khan, Hafiz
 * Iloilo, Ratu Josefa
 * Kepa, Ro Teimumu
 * Koya, Sidiq
 * Lalabalavu, Ratu Naiqama
 * Leung, Graeme
 * Madraiwiwi, Ratu Joni
 * Mara, Ratu Sir Kamisese
 * Mataca, Petero
 * Men, Alexander
 * Moawad, Nayla
 * Moawad, René
 * Momoedonu, Ratu Tevita
 * Naidu, Richard
 * Nailatikau, Ratu Epeli Qaraninamu
 * Nailatikau, Adi Koila Mara
 * Navakasuasua, Maciu
 * Niranjan, Sangeeta
 * Punja, Hari
 * Qarase, Laisenia
 * Rabuka, Sitiveni
 * Rae, Pramod
 * Ravuvu, Asesela
 * Rovabokola, Ratu Viliame
 * Simpson, Jack
 * Singh, Raman Pratap
 * Singh, Sir Vijay
 * Soong May-ling
 * Sukuna, Ratu Sir Lala
 * Tavola, Kaliopate
 * Tora, Apisai
 * Tugia, Manasa
 * Tuibua, Esala
 * Vosanibola, Josefa Bole
 * Waqabaca, Josaia
 * Waradi, Taito
 * Zinck, Kenneth

Quotes I have added to existing compilations

 * Blair, Tony
 * Kerry, John
 * Lange, David
 * MacArthur, Douglas
 * Teller, Edward

To study
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Alex Carey

Alex Carey (1 December 1922 – 30 November 1987) was an Australian author and psychologist.

Taking the Risk Out of Democracy: Corporate Propaganda versus Freedom and Liberty (1995)
published by University of Illinois Press

 * The twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.
 * p. 18

 * It remains, as ever, an axiom of conventional wisdom that the use of propaganda as a means of social and ideological control is distinctive of totalitarian regimes. Yet the most minimal exercise of common sense would suggest a different view: that propaganda is likely to play at least as important a part in democratic societies (where the existing distribution of power and privilege is vulnerable to quite limited changes in popular opinion) as in authoritarian societies (where it is not). It is arguable that the success of business propaganda in persuading us, for so long, that we are free from propaganda is one of the most significant propaganda achievements of the twentieth century.
 * p. 21

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Louis Lecoin

Louis Lecoin (30 September 1888 – 23 June 1971) was a French antimilitarist, pacifist, and anarchist.

Quotes

 * One morning, I awoke to find my two neighbours dead by my side. The day before, sleeping in the same straw, we had spoken a little — to reassure ourselves and each other.
 * De Prison En Prison (1947)

 * If it were proved to me that in making war, my ideal had a chance of being realized, I would still say "No" to war. For one does not create human society on mounds of corpses.
 * As quoted in Seeds of Peace : A Catalogue of Quotations (1986) edited by Jeanne Larson and Madge Micheels-Cyrus

Quotes about Lecoin
Mr. Lecoin, who throughout his life indifferently earned a living as a printer, gardener, proofreader or construction worker, joined the anarchists in 1905 at the age of 17 and was sentenced to eight years in prison at 24. One of the leading campaigners here for Sacco and Vanzetti in the 1920's and for Republican Spain in the thirties, he went to jail again in 1939 for the publication of a pamphlet with the evocative title, “Immediate Peace!”
 * Louis Lecoin, who has been described as France's most “militant pacifist,” died today in a hospital at suburban Pavilions‐Sous‐Bois after surgery. He was 83 years old.
 * "Louis Lecoin Dead; French Pacifist, 83", The New York Times (24 June 1971)

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Robert Wilson Lynd

Robert Wilson Lynd (20 April 1879 – 6 October 1949) was a British writer, an urbane literary essayist and strong Irish nationalist. He was born and educated in Belfast, and settled in Hampstead in London, as a contributor to many publications.

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 * The art of writing history is the art of emphasizing the significant facts at the expense of the insignificant. And it is the same in every field of knowledge. Knowledge is power only if a man knows what facts not to bother about.
 * Robert Lynd (1926) The orange tree: a volume of essays. p.60. The last sentence "Knowledge is power only if a man knows what facts not to bother about." was cited in some sources in the 1960s, such as August Kerber (1968) Quotable quotes on education. p.190, and in multiple other sources ever since.

 * Most of us can remember a time when a birthday — especially if it was one's own — brightened the world as if a second sun had risen.
 * Robert Lynd (1969). The Peal of Bells. p.26

 * There are some people who want to throw their arms round you simply because it is Christmas; there are other people who want to strangle you simply because it is Christmas.
 * On Christmas, The Book of This and That (1915)

 * We welcome almost any break in the monotony of things, and a man has only to murder a series of wives in a new way to become known to millions of people who have never heard of Homer.
 * The New Statesman, 22 October 1921

 * In order to see birds it is necessary to become a part of the silence. One has to sit still like a mystic and wait. One soon learns that fussing, instead of achieving things, merely prevents things from happening.  To be passive is in some circumstances the most efficient form of activity.  You cannot command events: you can only put yourself in the place where events will happen to you.  No impatient man has ever seen Nature.
 * Solomon in All His Glory (1922), pp. 12-13.

 * The belief in the possibility of a short decisive war appears to be one of the most ancient and dangerous of human illusions.
 * Searchlights and Nightingales [Google Books snippet view only] (1939), p. 67.

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Talk:South American Community of Nations

How is this page intented to be used? Quotes about the SACN organized by nationality of the originator or how? An example would be nice. jni 04:45, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Also, what is the "CAN" mentioned by Duhalde, and is it related to SACN? Is there a Spanish or Portugeuse translation of "South American Community of Nations" that should be mentioned? These are probably useful things to add as an introduction to this article. — Jeff Q (talk) 09:51, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

 * CAN is the Andean Community of Nations (in Spanish: Comunidad Andina de Naciones). - 68.23.39.181


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Philology

Philology is the study of ancient texts and languages.

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 * The influence of German and European philology may be seen in the genealogical lines of early American Sanskrit which crossed and re-crossed the Atlantic: Edward Salisbury studied with Bopp in Berlin, Lassen in Bonn and de Sacy and Burnouf in Paris; Salisbury's student Whitney trained with Bopp and Weber in Berlin, and Roth in Tübingen; Whitney's student Lanman in Tübingen, Berlin and Leipzig.

 * Philologists, who chase A panting syllable through time and space, Start it at home, and hunt it in the dark, To Gaul, to Greece, and into Noah's ark.
 * William Cowper, Retirement (1782)

 * Philology always leads to crime.
 * Eugène Ionesco, The Lesson (1951)

 * Among us, the so-called "higher criticism," which reigns supreme in the domain of philology has also taken possession of our historical literature. This higher criticism has been the pretext for introducing all the anti-historical monstrosities that a vain imagination could suggest. Here we have the other method of making the past a living reality; putting subjective fancies in the place of historical data; fancies whose merit is measured by their boldness, that is, the scantiness of the particulars on which they are based, and the peremptoriness with which they contravene the best established facts of history.
 * Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel, Philosophy of History Vol 1 p. 7-8

 * For the new theory of Language has unquestionably produced a new theory of Race. . . . There seems to me no doubt that modern philology has suggested a grouping of peoples quite unlike anything that had been thought of before. If you examine the bases proposed for common nationality before the new knowledge growing out of the study of Sanscrit had been popularised in Europe, you will find them extremely unlike those which are now advocated and even passionately advocated in parts of the Continent. . . . That peoples not necessarily understanding one another's tongue should be grouped together politically on the ground of linguistic affinities assumed to prove community of descent, is quite a new idea.
 * Sir Henry Sumner Maine, The effects of observation of India on modern European thought quoted from    Trautmann, Thomas R. (2008). Aryans and British India.

 * Philologists appear to me to be a secret society who wish to train our youth by means of the culture of antiquity · I could well understand this society and their views being criticised from all sides. A great deal would depend upon knowing what these philologists understood by the term "culture of antiquity"—If I saw, for example, that they were training their pupils against German philosophy and German music, I should either set about combating them or combating the culture of antiquity, perhaps the former, by showing that these philologists had not understood the culture of antiquity.
 * We Philologists 84 by Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche

 * To live classically and to realize antiquity practically within oneself is the summit and goal of philology.
 * Friedrich Schlegel, Philosophical Fragments, P. Firchow, trans. (1991) § 147

 * Now the philosophy of life, in its highest range at least, is a divine science of experience. This experience, however, is throughout internal and spiritual. It is therefore easily conceivable that it can enter readily and easily into all other experimental sciences, and into those especially which more immediately relate to man, as, for instance, most of the branches of natural history, and still more into philology, with which at present we are most immediately concerned. And this it does, in order to borrow such illustrations and comparisons as may tend to elucidate or further to develop its own subject-matter, or else to furnish applications to individual cases in other departments of life. However, in thus proceeding, philosophy must take heed lest it overpass its own proper limits or forget its true end and aim. It must not go too deeply into particulars, or lose itself among the specialities of the other sciences. On the contrary, it ought carefully to confine itself to those points which more immediately concern man, and especially the inner man, and, adhering to the meaning and spirit of the whole, seek to elucidate and throw out this pre-eminently.
 * Friedrich Schlegel, The philosophy of life, and philosophy of language, in a course of lectures

 * BALD heads forgetful of their sins, Old, learned, respectable bald heads Edit and annotate the lines That young men, tossing on their beds, Rhymed out in love's despair To flatter beauty's ignorant ear. All shuffle there; all cough in ink; All wear the carpet with their shoes; All think what other people think; All know the man their neighbour knows. Lord, what would they say Did their Catullus walk that way?
 * William Butler Yeats, The Scholars''

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Deus Ex: Invisible War

Deus Ex: Invisible War, a PC and XBox videogame released in 2003 and the sequel to the award-winning Deus Ex. The game's plot is set in a dystopian world dominated by various organizations, notably "The Order", "The WTO", "The Knights Templar" and the cyborg "Omar". The story revolves around Alex D, a trainee at an elite school, "Tarsus" and slowly unravels a conspiracy while fighting for the organization the player chooses.

Dialogue

 * Templar Knight: Human society is now so destructive that organic life itself is an endangered species. Remember the Templar message. The more you look at the world, the more truthful my words will seem.
 * Templar Knight: The individual worker -- careerist, let's say -- seldom understands how his small labor contributes to human history. Seemingly innocuous innovations in cell biology, nanotechnology, and computer science add up to a teeming substrate of new life.  But it isn't life.  It's death.  It seeks to devour its clumsy, organic creators.
 * Alex D: Yeah? I must be dead, then. I'm up to my eyeballs in biomods.
 * Templar Knight: Let me warn you, friend -- we consider the modified to be less than human. Observe what your Second Soul of nanites has done to you -- and consider going to a clinic to be Purified.
 * Alex D: My biomods don't change who I am. They're tools -- I use them to complete certain tasks.
 * Templar Knight: But the tasks grow in strangeness and complexity. The demands of others corrupt you.  All because you allow yourself to be something other than humans

 * Paul Denton: If you want to even out the social order, you have to change the nature of power itself. Right?  And what creates power?  Wealth, physical strength, legislation -- maybe -- but none of those is the root principle of power.
 * Alex D: I’m listening.
 * Paul Denton: Ability is the ideal that drives the modern state. It's a synonym for one's worth, one's social reach, one's "election," in the Biblical sense, and it's the ideal that needs to be changed if people are to begin living as equals.
 * Alex D: And you think you can equalize humanity with biomodification?
 * Paul Denton: The commodification of ability -- tuition, of course, but, increasingly, genetic treatments, cybernetic protocols, now biomods -- has had the side effect of creating a self-perpetuating aristocracy in all advanced societies. When ability becomes a public resource, what will distinguish people will be what they do with it.  Intention.  Dedication.  Integrity.  The qualities we would choose as the bedrock of the social order.

 * Nicolette: We'll always lead the people, though they'll never know our names. Our sacred goal, the elevation of humankind, can only be accomplished in secrecy. We will provide civilization with only the best leadership. Perhaps, someday, they'll be ready, and we'll finally be able to reveal our efforts. For now, we must work quietly and thanklessly.
 * Alex D: Any last-minute advice?
 * Nicolette: Yes -- I worry that you still perceive the Illuminati as a conspiracy. The organization does have some image problems, I suppose. As you know, the Illuminati has imperceptibly guided civilization for centuries. How?  Leadership.  We elevate the capable into positions of authority, where they can do the most good for everyone.  JC and Saman both want to level the social order, either by giving biomods to everyone or no one.  It's the same either way -- the end of true leadership and a descent into chaos.
 * Alex D: What do you propose instead?
 * Nicolette: Without extraordinary individuals, civilization will founder. Total homogeneity -- now THAT'S unnatural.  That's what we have to resist at all cost.
 * Alex D: So the Illuminati wants to maintain disparity?
 * Nicolette: Not disparity, but difference, and the well-managed specialization it makes possible. Some people just aren't leaders and shouldn't be granted great powers.  The Illuminati want to ensure that humankind will always have a select few -- like you, Alex -- to inspire the rest.

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User talk:130.207.180.52

(RE: 2 May 2005 edits of Immanuel Kant) — Jeff Q (talk) 09:53, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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User talk:Astaroth~enwikiquote

-- jni 11:39, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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And thank you for your proposal of quotes. --Aphaia 12:43, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Anjuz. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Anjuz~enwikiquote that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:62.255.64.5

Welcome to Wikiquote, the free compendium of quotations! You don't have to log in to read or edit articles on Wikiquote, but creating an account is quick, free and non-intrusive, requires you to provide no personal information, and gives you many benefits, including:
 * The use of a username of your choice
 * The ability to view all your contributions via a "My contributions" link
 * Your own user page
 * Your own talk page which, if you choose, also allows users to send you messages without knowing your e-mail address
 * The use of your own personal watchlist to which you can add articles that interest you
 * The ability to rename pages
 * The ability to upload images
 * The ability to customize the appearance and behavior of the website
 * The eligibility to become an administrator
 * The right to be heard in formal votes and elections, and on pages like votes for deletion

Click here to create an account.--Aphaia 19:38, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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