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Wouldn't it be better to keep those quotes in chronological order as they appear in the books? --AmiUhle 18:11, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Spoilers
I added a spoiler tag for the HBP section, I think that the Severus Snape quote could give quite a bit away to an innocent reader who's just looking for a few laughs, not to have the sixth book ruined for him. I hope I did it right.

Cleanup needed
The last book has no quotes, just marketing schpiel. All the other books should have quotes in standard book format (not dialogue format), including chapter attribution. The movie quote should be clearly seperated. For all these reasons, I've added a cleanup tag. Please do not remove until all issues are addressd. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 15:21, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Goblet of Fire Quote
This is rather nitpicky, but technically, this quote is by someone masquerading as Moody. Should we change it or not? "'Course Dumbledore trusts you. He's a trusting man, isn't he? Believes in second chances. But me—I say there are spots that don't come off, Snape. Spots that never come off, know what I mean?" -- Alastor Moody

 * This whole page should move to "quotes from literary works" format, which would instantly solve this problem. ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 05:13, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

I think I cleaned up the page a bit. But I can't correct the Half-Blood Prince one cause' I didn't read it yet. 71.105.5.69 06:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Quotes in wrong sections
Both of these quotes are from the Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire film, so I am moving them into the correct section.
 * 1) Professor Minerva McGonagall: The house of Godric Gryffindor has been a beacon in the wizarding world for nearly 10 centuries, and I will not have you besmirching it in one night by acting like a babbling, bumbling bunch of baboons.
 * 2) Ron Weasley: Piss off!

I'm sorry! I didn't watch that movie, so I just put it there. Sorry! 71.118.78.62 03:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

Proposed Organisation
I propose the quotes are organised as such: Books -->Philosopher's Stone >Chapter 1 Quote 1 -Optional explaination of context --- Quote 2 --- Quote N >Chapter 2 >Chapter N -->Chamber of Secrets >Chapter N -->Rest of Books  Movies -->Philosopher's Stone Quote/Dialogue 1 --- Quote/Dialogue N -->Rest of Movies  How does that look? 81.137.181.37 10:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Harry Potter is almost certainly much too popular to confine to a single article. I would recommend at least the following:

 * One article per film. (Experience here suggests people are more likely to quote from films than books.)
 * One article for all the books, unless it's expected there will be more than, say, a dozen quotes per book.

 * I would use this article as an index into whatever article structure you decide to go with, and move all quotes out of it into the appropriate articles. For the book article(s), I would recommend against chapter sections, for three major reasons:

 * Each quote should have a source line that includes page number and some information on what edition was used to source it. (See below for how this can be done.) Chapters can be included in that source line, if desired.

 * Chapter subsections (and even just book sections) encourage people to ignore the first point, that we need easily-verifiable source information listed for each quote.

 * Chapter subsections can encourage excessive (copyright-violating) quoting.

 * Wikiquote currently has a mixed bag of methods to properly cite book sources:

 * One-time citation: The first quote's source line can include a full citation, including title, year, ISBN, and total page count. (The last two are important for allowing readers to find quotes in different editions of the book.) Subsequent quotes need only the page number (and optional chapter).

 * Plain reference citation: A "References" section can include the full citation, so that the source lines for each quote need only the page number (and optionally the chapter). Template:Cite book is useful for creating a well-formatted full citation.

 * Footnoted citation. The first quote has a w:Wikipedia:Footnotes-style citation that creates a link to the full citation in the References section. Each subsequent quote includes an abbreviated version. This has a bit of a learning curve, and is not really worth it unless you have multiple books cited in an article.

 * Let me know if you have any questions about the specifics of any of these points. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Following your advice, I have organised the books into separate pages, except for the textbooks. The movies will be done later. The quotes still need to be tidied into literature format, though. RMS Oceanic 14:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Disambig
This page (or the plain Harry Potter page, which is now just a redirect to this page) should be turned into a disambig page, with links to each of the books and each of the films. ~ UDScott 14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for cleaning up Optimism. --Aphaia 22:22, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

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thanks, now I'll try out that dating thing...

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Shenmue

Shenmue is a series of adventure games made by Sega set in 1980s Japan and China. A major selling point was the sheer magnitude of characters with whom the player could interact. Among other things, the shocking variety of poetry, philosophy, vulgarity, politeness and amusing idiosyncratic translations gave the English versions of Shenmue a reputation for memorable quotations.

Introduction
He shall appear from a far eastern land across the sea,

A young man who has yet to know his potential,

This potential is a power that could either destroy him or realize his will,

His courage shall determine his fate,

The path he must traverse, fraught with adversity, I await whilst praying,

For this destiny predetermined since ancient times,

A pitch black night unfolds with the morning star as its only light,

And thus the saga… Begins…

Shen’hua

Opening

 * Iwao Hazuki: Stay back, Ryo.
 * Lan Di: For the last time... Where is the mirror?
 * Iwao Hazuki: I've no intention of telling you.

Iwao and Lan Di fight, with Lan Di being the victor and Iwao laying on the ground.

Ryo steps in, but Lan Die defeats him with ease and threatens to kill him.
 * Iwao Hazuki: No Don't!
 * Lan Di: Hand over the mirror... or else... your son!?
 * Iwao Hazuki: Wait! ... The mirror. It's... burried... under the cherry tree.
 * Lan Di: Do you remember Zhao Sun Ming?
 * Iwao Hazuki: Zhao?
 * Lan Di: That's the name of the man you killed in Meng Cun.
 * Iwao Hazuki: It can't be... You!?
 * Lan Di: Get up, I'll allow you to die like a warrior.

Iwao attacks Lan Di, who hits him with a powerful strike and subsequently leaves the dojo.
 * Iwao Hazuki: Forgive Me... for... leaving... you alone.
 * Ryo: Wha... What are you saying...? Father!
 * Iwao Hazuki: Your friends... Keep friends... Those you love... close to you...

Iwao dies in Ryo's arms.
 * Ryo: No... Father! ... NOOOOOO!!!

Ryo screams in sorrow as a heavy thunderstorm comes up.

Hazuki residence

 * Fuku-san: Ryo-san, Where are you going?! You're not going after them! Please don't, Look what they did to Hazuki-sensei!
 * Ryo: They killed my father right in front of me. I will have my revenge!

Flashback
 * Iwao Hazuki: That boy you fought with - What is he to you?
 * Young Ryo: A friend from school.
 * Iwao Hazuki: And what is a friend?
 * Young Ryo: Well... a friend is... a friend.
 * Iwao Hazuki: That's right. Just as a parent is a parent, a friend is nothing other than a friend. But listen, Ryo. Parents often die before their children.
 * Young Ryo: Oh...
 * Iwao Hazuki: That's the law of nature. Friends will be there for you even after parents die. So treasure your friends. And friends you can trust are true friends indeed. Understood?

Dobuita

 * At the corner of Sakuragaoka and Dobuita, two innocent-looking girls in school uniforms, who are chatting with one another, betray shocking and unsolicited antagonism when the player says hello.

Girl 1:
 * Get out of my face schoolboy! Man! Jack off!
 * Man, shut up, go home to mommy!
 * What's with you, I'm not in the mood for this, kiss off!
 * Man jack off! Get out of here before I hurt you!
 * Man...what's with you, I'm not in the mood for this!
 * Don't make me hurt you boy!

Girl 2:
 * Who the hell do you think you are!
 * I'll slap you silly you pansy!
 * What you want twit, pansy ass geek!
 * You're asking for it jerk!
 * What do you want, twit, what me to kick your ass!
 * Ok bastard!

Ryo being very non-specific as usual.
 * Ryo: Have you seen any men wearing black suits?

 * Ryo: Did you happen to see a black car that day?
 * Nozomi: A black car?
 * Ryo: Yeah, it wasn't the kind of car you'd usually see around here.
 * Nozomi: You know, a car like that splashed mud on me when it sped past.

 * Nozomi: Why are you asking about that car?
 * Ryo: No reason.

 * Ryo: I'm looking for a Chinese man who calls himself Lan Di.
 * Liu-san: I gather by his name that he is most likely a member of a Chinese black market cartel, or perhaps even the Chinese Mafia.
 * Ryo: What?

Ryo:
 * Do you know anything about chinese people?

Ryo:
 * Do you know where sailors hang out?

Working out

 * Ryo: Let's get sweaty

Arcade
After spending an entire day playing Hang-On in the arcade, just when you are getting good at it

 * Ryo: I should go home. Ine-san will be worried about me.

Yokusuka Harbour

 * Ryo: STOP IT!

Ryo to a bunch of thugs
 * Ryo: Don't you know that blackmail is way uncool?

Tery to Ryo and Guixang
 * Tery: You like me that much? Let me invite you to hell!

Bad Ending

 * Fuku-San: I'll never tell you Ryo-San is?

(Lan Di's Henchman beats Fuku-San up as Ryo comes to the Dojo)
 * Ryo: Fuku-San! (He sees Lan Di inside the Dojo) Lan Di!

(Lan Di Turns Around his attention to Ryo)
 * Fuku-San: Ryo-San, Don't do it! (As the men in black suit kicks him again)
 * Lan Di: I heard there's another mirror.
 * Ryo: What?!
 * Lan Di: Give it to me now!
 * Ryo: Not a Chance!
 * Lan Di: If that's the way you want it, I'll just take it from you!

(Lan Di does a fighting stance)
 * Ryo: (As he is ready to fight Lan Di) I will avenge my father's death!

(Ryo and Lan Di Fight and Ryo tries to punches Lan Di, but he palms him and killing him)

GAME OVER.

Shenmue II

 * Ryo: A winning can. I didn't know they had one in Hong Kong.
 * Ren: If you're lucky, it means fate is on your side.

 * Ryo: Do you know the four wude?

 * Ryo: Do you want to play a game of lucky hit?

 * Ryo: I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to the master here!
 * Ryo: Damn!

 * Wong: It wasn't me, I swear!
 * Ren: So, she collects knives. Shes so weird!
 * Ren: This way!
 * Yuan: I've seen you before.....

About

 * Certainly “Shenmue” is a very important IP, as well for SEGA, it is a title that has affected a lot of games. In a closed world, you can go anywhere, it can be anything, and It was a pioneer the open-world genre.
 * Hideki Okamura

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Helen Thomas

Helen Thomas (August 4, 1920 – July 20, 2013) was an American reporter who worked for the Hearst News Service, as a dean of the White House press corps, as a White House correspondent, and King Features Syndicate columnist. Thomas covered every President of the United States from John F. Kennedy to Barack H. Obama II. Perhaps her most famous quote is "Thank you Mister President." This is how practically every presidential news conference was traditionally ended for over 40 years, from Kennedy to Clinton, and the honor was reserved for Helen Thomas to say. The tradition was started by UPI's Merriman Smith during the presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. In 2003, the George W. Bush administration put an end to this tradition.

2001–2006

 * The White House used to belong to the American people. At least that's what I learned from history books and from covering every president starting with John F. Kennedy. But now the 201-year-old Executive Mansion belongs only to a select, elitist group of people, including top government officials, members of Congress and the press corps. They and some others, all of whom are screened in advance, are welcome. But most people are not — not anymore.
 * Hearst newspaper column (November 28, 2001).

 * We were never hyphenated as Arab-Americans. We were American, and I have always rejected the hyphen and I believe all assimilated immigrants should not be designated ethnically. Or separated, of course, by race, or creed either. These are trends that ever try to divide us as a people.
 * As quoted in America: what my country means to me by 150 Americans from all walks of life'' (2002), Simon & Schuster, p. 238.

 * At the earlier briefing, Ari, you said that the President deplored the taking of innocent lives. Does that apply to all innocent lives in the world? And I have a follow-up... My follow-up is, why does he want to drop bombs on innocent Iraqis? …
 * White House briefing (January 6, 2003)

 * All presidents rail against the press. It goes with the turf.
 * Hearst newspaper column (October 15, 2003).

 * This is the worst president ever. He is the worst president in all of American history.
 * About George W. Bush, said in Los Angeles while at a Society for Professional Journalism banquet event.
 * Published in an article by John Bogert in the Torrance, California Daily Breeze (January 19, 2003).
 * According to Thomas this was supposed to be off the record. The reporter (assumedly Bogert) asked for her autograph after she spoke at the event. As she signed his copy of her book, he said to her, "You look sad?" She responded by saying "Well I am. I'm covering the worst president..."
 * Interview by Adam Holdorf for Real Change News (March 18, 2004).

 * I don't speechify. I know the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. And that's what I ask. But they get mad at the straight line. I just want to ask a tough question.
 * Interview by Adam Holdorf for Real Change News (March 18, 2004).

 * [I]t took a lot of chutzpah on the part of a lot of newspaper women who came here in the twenties, thirties, forties, and fifties to break down the barriers against women reporters. And we couldn’t even become members of the National Press Corps until 1971 — that’s pretty late in the game. We got the vote, which we should’ve been born with, in 1920. Everything we’ve had to struggle for — it’s ridiculous.
 * Interview by Adam Holdorf for Real Change News (March 18, 2004).

 * We've got to break through the wall of secrecy. It's America's fate.
 * Phone interview on The Majority Report (April 2, 2004)

 * It's the arrogance of power. "We're in charge. It's our White House. What the hell are you doing here?" Basically toward the Press. "How dare you question anything we do?" They don't understand that the presidential news conference is the only forum in our society where a president can be questioned. If he's not questioned, he can rule by edict; by government order. He can be a monarch. He can be a dictator, and who is to find out? No. He should be questioned and he should always be able to willingly reply and answer to all questions because these aren't our questions. They're the people's questions.
 * Phone interview on The Majority Report (April 2, 2004)

 * Every President hates the Press. Every president thinks that all information that comes to the White House is their private preserve after they all promise an open administration on the campaign trail, but some are even more secretive than others. Some want to lock down everything.
 * Phone interview on The Majority Report (April 2, 2004)

 * Both Blair and Bush have been found lacking in their credibility. Usually by this time a government would have fallen. I covered two presidents, LBJ and Nixon, who could no longer convince, persuade, or govern, once people had decided they had no credibility, but we seem to be more tolerant now of what I think we should not tolerate.
 * Phone interview on The Majority Report (April 2, 2004)

 * Well it wasn't a formal hanging. It was kind of subtle. I had covered him … his first press conference. He dropped down into the press room and started taking questions and everyone asked about the tax cut and I sort of — Ari Fleischer later told me I blindsided him because I said to him, "Mister President, why don't you respect the wall of separation between church and state?" Well, there's a video of him that is so funny. He jerked back as if he had been hit! I mean both barrels! And he said, "I do respect—" I said, "Well if you did, why would you have a religious office in the White House?" (I'm exaggerating, but anyway) and "you're a secular official." And he said "I am secular." Well, anyway, I got a call from Ari after that. After that there was a formal news conference and I did ask him a Middle East question and it wasn't the question per se. They just don't like my boorishness.
 * Phone interview on The Majority Report (April 2, 2004)

 * Get into the game!
 * Advice to up-and-coming journalists, quoted from "Calling Helen Thomas", Saudi Aramco World (Vol. 57, No. 2, March/April 2006)

 * You don't spread democracy through the barrel of a gun.
 * As quoted in The Daily Show (June 27, 2006).

 * I'm a liberal, I was born a liberal, and I will be a liberal till the day I die.
 * "Thomas's views unsettled W.H. press", Politico (2006)

2010–2011

 * Helen Thomas
 * I think American policy is pro‐Israel. If you take a vote in Congress, maybe you might get five people vote against any further aid to Israel or to continue its occupation. But that's about it. They control— They have vast power.
 * Paul Jay
 * Who's they?
 * Helen Thomas
 * The Zionists.

 * I mean, they (Obama admistration) have a guy like Dennis Ross at the White House now, who's always been a part of the Israel lobby. They put him in charge of the whole Muslim world.
 * In Vice Magazine (June 2010).

 * David Nesenoff
 * Any comments on Israel? We're asking everybody today, any comments on Israel?
 * Helen Thomas
 * Tell 'em to get the hell out of Palestine.
 * David Nesenoff
 * Ooh. Any better comments than that?
 * Helen Thomas
 * Remember, these people are occupied, and it's their land, not German and not Poland's.
 * David Nesenoff
 * So where should they go? What should they do?
 * Helen Thomas
 * They could go home.
 * David Nesenoff
 * Where is home?
 * Helen Thomas
 * Poland. Germany.—
 * David Nesenoff
 * So the Jews— You're saying Jews should go back to Poland and Germany.
 * Helen Thomas
 * —and America and everywhere else. Why push people out of there who are lived there for centuries? See?
 * David Nesenoff
 * Now, are you familiar of the history of that region, and what took place?
 * Helen Thomas
 * Very much. I'm of Arab background.
 * White House Lawn (May 27, 2010), on American Jewish Heritage Celebration Day

 * I deeply regret my comments I made last week regarding the Israelis and the Palestinians. They do not reflect my heart-felt belief that peace will come to the Middle East only when all parties recognize the need for mutual respect and tolerance. May that day come soon.
 * June 4, 2010

 * I paid the price for that, but it was worth it, to speak the truth. The Zionists have to understand that's their country, too. Palestinians were there long before any European Zionists.
 * I can call a president of the United States anything in the book but I can't touch Israel, which has Jewish-only roads in the West Bank. No American would tolerate that -- white-only roads… We are owned by the propagandists against the Arabs. We are owned by propagandists against the Arabs. There's no question about that. Congress, the White House, and Hollywood, Wall Street, are owned by the Zionists. No question in my opinion. They put their money where their mouth is…We're being pushed into a wrong direction in every way.

 * If we could get them back to the '67 borders it certainly would be a triumph, but they're not about to move anywhere. They keep taking and keep bulldozing homes on the West Bank. They have Jewish-only roads. They would never tolerate that here...My view is that you should not create another nation in somebody else's country, and the Palestinians were 85 percent in the majority, until they began the immigration for the Jews and for the Zionists because they had designated Jerusalem as their home, that God gave it to them. Well, I mean, that's what God? Who? And so forth. Everything like that is just very debatable. Jews have been persecuted all over the world. There's no question about that. Certainly the Nazis. I mean, it's too horrifying to think of what they did and the silence in the world when it was happening. At the same time, they aren't the only ones who fought in World War II. I had my brothers, two brothers, were there. All my relatives. Every American was involved. So it isn't a question of the Holocaust was a simple thing going on. The Russians lost 25 million people.

 * Not a secret. It’s very open.
 * Interviewed for the April 2011 issue of Playboy magazine, when asked "Do you actually think there’s a secret Jewish conspiracy at work in this country [the US]?"

Quotes about Thomas

 * I don't have to answer questions from Helen Thomas.
 * Fidel Castro, in response to a USA Today reporter's question of 'What is the difference between your democracy and our democracy?'.

 * Helen Thomas, who I used to consider a close friend and who I used to respect, has showed herself to be an anti-Semitic bigot.
 * Lanny Davis, as quoted in "More Thomas Fallout", Politico (June 6, 2010).

 * I don't want to beat an old horse, but it's a bit unfair to compare Helen Thomas to Hezbollah. Clearly, Helen only endorses religious cleansing; she doesn't openly support genocide.
 * Michael Rubin, as quoted in "In Defense of Helen Thomas", National Review (June 10, 2010).

 * For several decades, Helen Thomas covered the White House as a reporter for United Press International.... and when the specter of war grew large in 2002, she didn’t hold back. "It’s bombs away for Iraq and on our civil liberties if Bush and his cronies get their way," Thomas said... during a speech at MIT. Looking back on a long career, she said: "I censored myself for fifty years when I was a reporter."
 * Norman Solomon Target Iraq: What the News Media Didn't Tell You, p. 21  (2003)

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Attributed/Sourced?
Are several of these not sourced? Perhaps I am misunderstanding the difference, but should those quotes under the 'attributed' category which now have actual sources be put in a separate category? I would just do it myself, but at the moment I lack confidence that I understand this properly..? ZachsMind 23:34, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for calling attention to this messy state. I've cleaned up the article a bit. The sources could still use some specific details, like external links, article titles, etc. Feel free to add them if you know or can find them. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Unsourced

 * Actually, I really did copy the entire script of Outlaw Star. I really didn't do any of that, I'm sorry I deluded so many people into thinking I'm not a sham.

 * I'd rather have a show that a hundred people need to see than a thousand people like to see.
 * From the "Television With A Bite" special on Buffy history. Shows up as a featurette on the last disc of the season six box set. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0366135/

 * Quiet on the set... unless yer poultry.

 * You take people, you put them on a journey, you give them peril, you find out who they really are. If there's any kind of fiction better than that, I don't know what it is.

 * Plans for the series, lessee. New member? Hell yes. The team? Roadtrip to end all roadtrips. The core concept? Ain't even gonna go there.
 * Referring to Runaways

 * Every day is a negotiation, and sometimes it's done with guns.

 * Always be yourself... Unless you suck.

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Intelligent design

Intelligent design is the pseudoscientific view that "certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection."

Quotes

 * ID (intelligent design) is essentially a total failure of the imagination; just because you do not see how something could have evolved, doesn’t mean that it didn’t.
 * Mordechai Ben-Ari, Just a Theory: Exploring the Nature of Science (2005), Chapter 2

 * Intelligent Design is simply a dead end; it does not deserve to be called a theory.
 * Mordechai Ben-Ari, Just a Theory: Exploring the Nature of Science (2005), Chapter 2

 * [I find it as difficult] to understand a scientist who does not acknowledge the presence of a superior rationality behind the existence of the universe as it is to comprehend a theologian who would deny the advances of science.
 * Wernher von Braun Speech, Huntsville Ministerial Association, in Wernher Von Braun and Irene E. Powell-Willhite (ed.), The Voice of Dr. Wernher Von Braun: An Anthology (2007), 89.

 * Can a physicist visualize an electron? The electron is materially inconceivable and yet, it is so perfectly known through its effects that we use it to illuminate our cities, guide our airlines through the night skies and take the most accurate measurements. What strange rationale makes some physicists accept the inconceivable electrons as real while refusing to accept the reality of a Designer on the ground that they cannot conceive Him?
 * Wernher von Braun in letter to California State board of Education (14 Sep 1972).

 * It is in scientific honesty that I endorse the presentation of alternative theories for the origin of the universe, life and man in the science classroom. It would be an error to overlook the possibility that the universe was planned rather than happening by chance.
 * Wernher von Braun in letter to California State board of Education (14 Sep 1972).

 * For me, the idea of a creation is not conceivable without invoking the necessity of design. One cannot be exposed to the law and order of the universe without concluding that there must be design and purpose behind it all.
 * Wernher von Braun in letter to California State board of Education (14 Sep 1972).

 * Intelligent design is not an argument of the same character as these controversies [within evolution science]. It is not a scientific argument at all, but a religious one. It might be worth discussing in a class on the history of ideas, in a philosophy class on popular logical fallacies, or in a comparative religion class on origin myths from around the world. But it no more belongs in a biology class than alchemy belongs in a chemistry class, phlogiston in a physics class or the stork theory in a sex education class. In those cases, the demand for equal time for "both theories" would be ludicrous. Similarly, in a class on 20th-century European history, who would demand equal time for the theory that the Holocaust never happened? ...If complex organisms demand an explanation, so does a complex designer. And it's no solution to raise the theologian's plea that God (or the Intelligent Designer) is simply immune to the normal demands of scientific explanation. To do so would be to shoot yourself in the foot. You cannot have it both ways. Either ID belongs in the science classroom, in which case it must submit to the discipline required of a scientific hypothesis. Or it does not, in which case get it out of the science classroom and send it back into the church, where it belongs.
 * Richard Dawkins and Jerry Coyne, "One side can be wrong", The Guardian (1 September 2005).

 * Intelligent design (ID) is a scientific theory that employs the methods commonly used by other historical sciences to conclude that certain features of the universe and of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process such as natural selection. ID theorists argue that design can be inferred by studying the informational properties of natural objects to determine if they bear the type of information that in our experience arise from an intelligent cause.
 * Discovery Institute. "CSC - Top Questions: Questions About Intelligent Design: What is the theory of intelligent design?". at discovery.org, Center for Science and Culture. Seattle, WA. Retrieved 2012-06-16.

 * Churches are block-booking seats for March of the Penguins, which is apparently a "condemnation of gay marriage" and puts forward the case for "intelligent design", ie, Creationism. To be honest, this is good news. If American Christians want to go public on the fact that they're now morally guided by penguins, at least we know where we all stand.
 * Caitlin Moran, The Times [of London], "Penguins lead way" section of column (20 September 2005).

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

 * We've been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture.
 * Ray Mummert, creationist/intelligent design proponent, Pastor at Brethren in Christ Church, East Berlin, Pennsylvania, March 2005. [See, for example, Lauri Lebo, "Pastor enjoys year in spotlight", York Daily Record (27 December 2005).]

 * There is no controversy within science over the core proposition of evolutionary theory.
 * Kenneth Miller, quoted by the Associated Press, "Opening Arguments Made in 'Intelligent Design' Court Case" (26 September 2005).

 * Intelligent design is not a testable theory in any sense and as such it is not accepted by the scientific community.
 * Kenneth Miller, quoted by the Associated Press, "Opening Arguments Made in 'Intelligent Design' Court Case" (26 September 2005).

 * The intelligent-design movement is an effort to introduce creationism into the schools under a different name.
 * Eric Rothschild, quoted by the Associated Press, "Opening Arguments Made in 'Intelligent Design' Court Case" (26 September 2005).

 * It's Scopes in reverse. They're going to get a gag order to be placed on teachers across the country.
 * John West, quoted by the Associated Press, "Opening Arguments Made in 'Intelligent Design' Court Case" (26 September 2005).

 * The bitter truth is that there is no argument going on in the scientific community about whether evolution took place.
 * Eugenie Scott, quoted by the Associated Press, "Opening Arguments Made in 'Intelligent Design' Court Case" (26 September 2005).

 * Mr. Robert J. Muise (attorney for Dover Area School District): Would you agree that Darwin's theory of evolution is not an absolute truth?Dr. Kenneth Miller: I certainly would, for the very simple reason that … in science, no theory is ever regarded as absolute truth.
 * court testimony (26 September 2005).

 * Students are ill served by any effort in science classrooms to blur the distinction between science and other ways of knowing, including those concerned with the supernatural.
 * American Association for the Advancement of Science, news release (27 October 2005).

 * Poll: Majority of Americans Reject Evolution: Accept "The Flintstones."
 * Ironic Times (31 October 2005) page 2.

 * Intelligent Design Trial Hopes to Wrap Up Soon: Courthouse needed for Santa Claus, Easter Bunny trials.
 * Ironic Times (31 October 2005) page 3.

 * The religious nature of ID [Intelligent Design theory] would be readily apparent to an objective observer, adult or child.
 * Judge John E. Jones III, Opinion in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, 20 December 2005, page 24.

 * ID [Intelligent Design theory] is reliant upon forces acting outside of the natural world, forces that we cannot see, replicate, control or test, which have produced changes in this world. While we take no position on whether such forces exist, they are simply not testable by scientific means and therefore cannot qualify as part of the scientific process or as a scientific theory.
 * Judge John E. Jones III, Opinion in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District, 20 December 2005, page 82.

End of Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District

 * [T]he empirical claims of the contemporary American Creation Science or Intelligent Design (ID) theory, which postulates a Creator of nature, are, just as the earlier theological argument from design, based on a mistaken, "creationist" view of human artifacts. Such view attributes functionality and complexity in an artifact to a singular human designer. The attribution aims at supporting an analogy between products of human designers, and the design-like adaptations found in nature, allegedly pointing to a supernatural Designer. The creationist view of artifacts, however, has been in conflict with conclusions of design history and history of technology alike: neither of them sees the functionality and complexity in artifacts as products of design but rather as results of re-design. Ironically, the evolutionary biologists, who fiercely oppose the creationist view of nature in ID proponents and defend the Darwinian understanding of the design-like adaptations as results of natural selection, tend to condone the creationist perspective on human artifacts characteristic for their opponents, and even seems to embrace it - thus forfeiting a crucial argument against the ID theory.
 * Jan Michl, "Without a godlike designer no designerlike God" (September 2006).

 * I wouldn’t get out of bed for 25,000 genes, and we don’t find form in the genome. We share most of our DNA with chimpanzees, but nowhere in the genome have we found what it is that makes us so different from chimps.
 * James Le Fanu quoted in "For God’s sake, have Charles Darwin’s theories made any difference to our lives?" by Bryan Appleyard, The Sunday Times [of London] (11 January 2009).

 * I've come to understand that all that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and Big Bang Theory and all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell.
 * Representative Paul Broun, speech at Liberty Baptist Church (Hartwell, Georgia) sportsman's banquet, 27 September 2012: video.

 * The fundamental problem with intelligent design is that you can't use it to explain the natural world. It's essentially a negative argument. It says, "Evolution doesn't work, therefore the designer did it. Evolution doesn't work, therefore we win by default." But when you ask them, "What does intelligent design tell you about nature? Does it tell you what the designer did? Does it tell you what the designer used to design something with? Does it tell you what purpose the designer had for designing something? Does it tell you when the designer did it? Why the designer did it?" It doesn't tell you anything like that. Basically, it's a negative argument. And you can't build a science on a negative argument.
 * Eugenie C. Scott, PBS Nova, Judgment Day, Intelligent Design on Trial, 2007

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Introduction edits
Anticipating complaints about the edits I've made to the introduction to this quote article, I am listing the original text here and citing exactly what changes I made.

Science Quotes and Intelligent Design

''Many today have turned to ID or intelligent design to explain the unexplainable. Rational minds have delve into the depths of science and have realized that life could not have happened by chance. Creationism is another form of explanation for how the world came about. It explains that there must have been a supreme intelligence that started this world.''

''Science has opened a world unknown to the naked eye. Many scientists have noted that mankind has the unique ability to discover everything from black holes to atoms. The world came equipped with all the necessary tools for humanity to discover the many layers of the universe. Below are quotes from some of the many scientists who have observed Intelligent Design and or Creationism in our world.''

I made the following changes: — Jeff Q (talk) 06:17, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
 * Removed the self-contradicting phrase "explain the unexplainable".
 * Removed quite a bit of dreamy prose that provides no clear definition of what ID is.
 * Changed the disconnected reference to Creationism to a connection to ID; namely, that the latter is a generalized form that is not explicitly tied to any particular religion, permitting a non-religious, philosophical approach. (None of this need to be discussed at length in the intro to a quote article, but should be found on Wikipedia for interested readers.)
 * Removed unnecessary attempts to argue from authority in the intro, including the superfluous "Science Quotes" subheading. As with any other Wikiquote article, quotes should speak for themselves, and the quotees provide their own authority directly through attribution and WP links.

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Buffy format tips
Hey, don't worry about mistakes for several reasons: they're easily corrected, Buffy formatting can be complicated, and, as I mentioned, some of it is undocumented, so it takes a while to pick up on it all. Usually I don't trouble relatively new editors, but I could see you were in the process of adding substantial text, so I thought it'd be a good idea to let you know right away. Don't let it discourage you from adding more material. In fact, any comments on the information as presented are welcome. (Some explanation of why it's so complicated can be found at User:Jeffq/Experiments/Firefly format, Wikiquote talk:Templates, Talk:Television shows/Dialog formatting, and elsewhere.)

By the way, what you do with your user page is up to you, but it's considered bad form to delete user comments. Talk pages are more like Usenet discussions than real-world bulletin boards, in that one should be able to review old discussions. Accumulating significant talk-page text is the mark of an involved user, and we all start out with "newbie" conversations. (Check out the earliest archives of just about any seasoned wiki user for examples.) Just another unrequested tip. ;) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 01:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Pardon me for my presumption. I see that you have an archive yourself; I just didn't realize that you archive entries so quickly. As Emily Litella would say, "Never mind." ☺ ~ Jeff Q (talk) 02:23, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Buffy format tips
Thanks for the contributions to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Might I suggest a few formatting tips? Most formatting tips are mentioned in the article's talk page, but some of them are merely undocumented conventions for this and other articles. I'm trying to make them more explicit for Firefly (see User:Jeffq/Experiments/Firefly format), so I'm hoping to update Buffy and others in the near future. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 23:58, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) Only add character links once per character per episode. They take up a lot of space in the raw text and make it harder for editors to see the actual quotes.
 * 2) Use complete sentences with proper capitalization and punctuation in the context lines whenever possible while keeping them brief. (I know; it's a challenge to do both. ☺)
 * 3) For stage directions (like [to himself]), always use [brackets] and italics.
 * 4) When quoting text (like when someone reads from a magic tome), use double quotation marks, not italics.

Welcome
Hi ZachsMind. Welcome to English Wikiquote.

Enjoy! ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 12:06, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
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 * Be bold.

Thanks
ZachsMind 14:59, 13 July 2005 (UTC) Cool. Thanks. I think I'm doing okay but if I screw up somewhere I'm sure y'all will let me know. Been a lurker and occasional contributor already. The Janeane Garofalo update is perhaps my boldest effort to date. Good to know there's someone to turn to if I get stuck.

Hi! Do you know about Reference desk? It is meant to be a place where you can ask questions about quotations. Thanks ~ MosheZadka (Talk) 16:46, 13 July 2005 (UTC)


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Perfect Strangers (TV series)

Perfect Strangers (1986-93) is an American sitcom that ran for eight seasons from March 25, 1986, to August 6, 1993, on the ABC television network. Created by Dale McRaven, the series chronicles the rocky coexistence of midwestern American Larry Appleton (Mark Linn-Baker) and his distant cousin from eastern Mediterranean Europe, Balki Bartokomous (Bronson Pinchot).

Balki Bartokomous

 * Balki Bartokomous: Well of course not, don't be ridiculous.

 * "You don't know what kind of good fellow you dumping to the birds! He was always loyal to you, he make everything perfect for you and you won't find anyone to do better! His only mistake was to be good friend to me. But the customer likes him and that's why they come back! And if you let this good person walk out that door you're makin' one big mistake, ghostbuster!"

 * "Patience is a virgin."

 * "You do that again and you're in big trouble!"

 * "I'm in debt. I am a true American."

 * "Now we are so happy, we do the Dance of Joy!"

 * "America! Land of my dreams, home of the Whopper!" (from the debut episode)

 * [dazed] "Oh, I'll put that in your car for you."

 * "Liar, liar, pants for hire."

 * "Oh, give me a line of credit!"

 * "Get out of the city!"

 * "It's gonna be kind of hard to save you from here."

 * "Once in a while when I know my Mypos family is all together then I wish I was in my chair at the table, because Papa sits here and Uncle Stavlos sits there and it’s a place of honor, you know."

Larry Appleton

 * Larry: Oh, my Lord!

 * "I have... a plan."

 * "Watch... and learn."

 * "Who'd ever heard of a burglar wearing a baseball cap?"

 * "Okay, okay, fine! You didn't lock me in the closet, there was no-one at the door, we are not having this conversation. This whole day has been some cosmic cruelty joke. Ha ha, fine! Oh, and if Tony Perkins shows up wearing a house-dress and carrying a very large kitchen knife... Tell him I'm in the shower!

 * "Having Twinkacetti as a houseguest. It's like Tokyo inviting Godzilla for dinner."

 * "W-well, actually, there is something I... I wanted to talk to you about. But things have been so crazy around here that... it just hasn't been a-a good time. But, I just wanted to-" [He looks and sees that Balki has fallen asleep] "I just wanted to know what you thought about Jennifer and I, you know? I dunno, is she interested in me, or...?"

 * "Look, this is America. We make things a lot more complicated."

Mary-Anne Spencer

 * Mary-Anne Spencer: You know, having a ghost would explain so many things. Like how when you open the refrigerator, the light goes on.

 * [Larry has asked the gang to help bake 2,000 Bibbi-Bobka's to be sold to a restaurant] Jennifer Lyons: Larry, it took us all morning to bake three dozen. Do you know how many dozen 2,000 are? Mary-Anne: [instantly] One-hundred and sixty-six and two-thirds dozen. [off their looks] My father was a carpenter.

 * "Sometimes late at night I start to make sense."

Dialogue

 * Balki: Well cousin, I guess when they were handing out the lips you only got one! [pause] Why aren't you laughing?
 * Larry: [stony-faced] It's hard to laugh with one lip. — "The Break In", Season Three

 * Balki: What do the directions say?
 * Larry: [haughtily] Directions? I threw them out. My father has made it through his whole life without ever reading a set of directions. He once rewired the entire house without directions. Balki: Isn't that the house that burned to the ground?
 * Larry: [sheepishly] They never proved it was the wiring. — "Pipe Dreams", Season Three

 * [Larry is hanging by the neck of his jacket.]
 * Larry: Alright, Balki, now help me down.
 * Balki: [excited] Cousin, do it for me, please?
 * Larry: [wearily] No, no...
 * Balki: Oh, please! Please, Mr. Scarecrow, which way to the Emerald City? Larry: 'Some people go that way, and some people go that way...'
 * Balki, Larry: '...But, of course, people do go both ways!'
 * Balki: [gleefully] I love it! I love it! — "That Old Gang of Mine", Season Three

 * Balki: Cousin, I should have listened to you when you told me not to join the Motor Psychos.
 * Larry: Well, I can understand why you did it. It's the only thing that kept your mind off Mary Anne. [Balki doubles over, sobbing] Oops. — "That Old Gang of Mine", Season Three

 * Balki: You know, I really admire you.
 * Larry: Why is that?.
 * Balki: Well, because first... you're willing to give up your bedroom to a woman I hardly know....(Larry looks at Balki in surprise).
 * Balki: (cotd.) ... and then for me, your friend, you're willing to sleep on the hot side of the bed. (Larry begins to lie down, then thinks about it and sits back up again.).
 * Larry: What do you mean, the hot side of the bed?.
 * Balki: Well, about 6:00 in the morning... see that little hole in the drapes? The sun comes through that and bores a hole right through your head like a laser beam. — "Hello Baby", Season Two

 * [Unknown to Sam, Balki has been hypnotised and thinks he is Elvis Presley]
 * Sam Gorphley: If you don't start acting like yourself by the time I count to three, you are out of a job! One...
 * Balki: For the money!
 * Sam: Two...
 * Balki: For the show! — "The King and I", Season Four

 * Larry: Let's make believe that this is Tony's Mambo Room. Balki, you're seeing me for the first time since I kicked you out. [ Balki takes a seat on the chair and Larry grabs the throw from the back of the couch and wraps it around his shoulders. Mr. Twinkacetti sits on the end of the couch to watch closely]
 * Balki: This is how you have to act if you want to get your wife back. [Larry walks across the room in a sultry manner, then eyes Balki as Balki returns the look. Larry acts coy. Balki gets to his feet and reaches out to Larry] Edwina, you look lovely this evening. [Larry takes Balki's hand and steps closer] That dress brings out your eyes.
 * Mr. Twinkacetti: I'm gonna throw up. [He gets up]
 * Balki: [sternly] Sit down, Turnip! [Mr. Twinkacetti obediently does so]
 * Larry: [in a feminine voice] Donald . . . the Mambo Room. How sweet of you to remember.
 * Balki: How could I forget, my pet? [He and Larry step closer. Larry turns his back to Balki and they take two steps forward in unison. Balki then pulls Larry to one side] It seems like only yesterday . . . you're as beautiful as you were then. [He pulls Larry to the other side] No! I'm wrong! You're even more beautiful!
 * Larry: I am?
 * Balki: You are.
 * Larry: I am?
 * Balki: You are.
 * Larry: I am?
 * Balki: You... Of course you are, don't be ridiculous.
 * Larry: Donald, I forgot how romantic you could be. How could I ever have kicked you out? [He gasps and looks straight into Balki's eyes] Take me!
 * Balki: I don't think so. — "Since I Lost My Baby", Season Two

 * Larry: Say, Chuck, do you have a blueprint for your brain? I'm building an idiot.
 * Balki: [confused] Cousin, you didn't tell me you were building an idiot.
 * Larry: It was going to be a surprise. — "The Karate Kids", Season Three

 * Larry: ... We have the element of surprise.
 * Balki: You're right there, cousin: even we don't know what we're doing.

 * [Larry does a rhumba with Balki]
 * Balki: Stop! COUSIN!... You are a man repossessed!
 * Larry: And loving it! Balki, rhumba tempo! We've got to get these bibbibabkas baked!
 * Balki: Cousin! It's too fast! And besides, shouldn't I be leading? — "Just Desserts", Season Three

 * Larry: If you can't take the heat... then get out of my kitchen.
 * Balki: Fine. You've baked your cake. Now lie in it. — "Just Desserts", Season Three

 * Larry: Don't come any closer! [He tries to smash a bottle against a table to use as a weapon, but can't quite manage. Cobra grabs the bottle and smashes it over his head]
 * Cobra: Is that what you were tryin' to do? [A short pause]
 * Larry: [simultaneously] Well, I wasn't going for the head. I was going for the... [He mimes smashing a bottle against a table] hoping for a jagged edge... something I could brandish about...
 * Balki: [simultaneously] No, you were going like this... there's a system to it... we had that whole discussion about the relaxation of the wrist and the elongation of this muscle right here, but, you know, sometimes the label covers over the part of the bottle...
 * Balki, Larry: [in unison] Yes, that was it! — "That Old Gang of Mine", Season Three

 * [Balki has placed his toy sheep on the pillow next to him so when Larry lays down and turns his head the sheep's bottom is in his face]
 * Larry: What's in my face?
 * [Balki holds up the sheep for Larry to see]
 * Balki: Dimitri. He always sleeps with me. [He makes Dimitri bounce toward Larry] Ding dang dang.
 * Larry: Not tonight. [He takes Dimitri and drops him callously on the floor]
 * Balki: I say my prayers now. [He crawls out of bed, kneels beside it and clasps his hands together in prayer] God? Bless Cousin Larry and Gina and the new baby and please watch over Dimitri who's sleeping on the floor for the first time in his whole young life. [He bounds back into bed, throws the covers over himself and cringes] — "Hello, Baby", Season Two

 * Balki: We witnessed the miracle of birth.
 * Larry: You witnessed the miracle of birth. I took one look and passed out. Of course, the good news is that while I was unconscious, I couldn't behave like a lunatic.

 * Larry: I'll hold the wrench, you've got the hammer. When I nod my head, you hit it.
 * Balki: [incredulously] Come again?
 * Larry: When I nod my head, you hit it.
 * Balki: [appalled] I can't do that!
 * Larry: Balki, don't make this complicated. I'll hold the wrench. You've got the hammer. When I nod my head, you hit it. You hit it! [Balki starts crying] Now do you understand?
 * Balki: [nervously clutching the hammer] Yes!
 * Larry: Ready?
 * Balki: [still crying] Yes! [Balki raises the hammer and waits for Larry's cue. Larry nods his head. Balki raises the hammer to strike]
 * Larry: WAIT! [Balki stands with the hammer raised, confused] What are you doing? [Balki lowers the hammer]
 * Balki: You said that when you nod your head I'm supposed to hit it.
 * Larry: The WRENCH! HIT THE WRENCH! [He snatches the hammer from his confused cousin's hand. He places a hand to his head, frustrated] I'll do it myself. — "Pipe Dreams", Season Three

 * Larry: And why are you going to get what you want?
 * Balki: Because I’m selfish!
 * Larry: And why are you selfish?
 * Balki: Because I want to make people HAPPY!!! HAPPY!!! [He shakes Larry vigorously back and forth]
 * Larry: Yes! Yes! You've got it! — "Assertive Training", Season Four
 * (note: Bronson Pinchot and Mark Linn-Baker accidentally injured each other while filming this scene)

 * [Balki opens a box and an inflatable woman inflates in their faces, spreading out to take up a portion of the trunk with them]
 * Balki: You... you live with someone for five years, and you think you know them...
 * Larry: Balki...
 * Balki: Then you spend a night in a car trunk with them.
 * Larry: Balki, this is not what you think.
 * Balki: [angrily] It's not an inflatable woman?
 * Larry: ... Well, yes it is.
 * Balki: Does the lady have a name?
 * Larry: I use this so I can drive in the car pool lane when I'm driving alone. &mdash "Car Tunes", Season Seven

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The Buggles

The Buggles were a pop/rock band formed in 1977 consisting of Trevor Horn and Geoff Downes. They had re-teamed after an earlier incarnation, Camera Club, which had also included Bruce Wooley, Thomas Dolby, and Hans Zimmer (Academy Award-winning film composer). The Buggles achieved fame with their first single, "Video Killed the Radio Star", a number-one hit in the UK charts, whose video launched nascent cable network MTV on August 1, 1981.

Quotes

 * They send the heart police to put you under cardiac arrest And as they drag you through the door, they tell you that you've failed the test.
 * "Living in the Plastic Age", The Age of Plastic (1980).

 * Hello, Doctor, lift my face I wish my skin could stand the pace.
 * "Living in the Plastic Age".

 * I heard you on the wireless back in '52 Lying awake intent at tuning in on you. If I was young, it didn't stop you coming through.
 * "Video Killed the Radio Star", The Age of Plastic (1980).

 * They took the credit for your second symphony. Rewritten by machine and new technology, and now I understand the problems you can see.
 * "Video Killed the Radio Star".

 * Video killed the radio star.
 * "Video Killed the Radio Star".

 * And now we meet in an abandoned studio. We hear the playback and it seems so long ago.
 * "Video Killed the Radio Star".

 * In my mind and in my car We can't rewind, we've gone too far. Pictures came and broke your heart. Put the blame on VTR.
 * "Video Killed the Radio Star".

 * Elstree, remember me? I had a part in a B-movie. I played a man from history
 * "Elstree", The Age of Plastic (1980).

 * God, you know it's hard to keep the fighting clean
 * "Clean, Clean", The Age of Plastic (1980).

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Christopher Columbus

Christopher Columbus (1451 – 20 May 1506) (Cristoforo Colombo in Italian, Cristóbal Colón in Spanish, Cristóvão Colombo in Portuguese) was an Italian explorer and navigator who completed four voyages across the Atlantic Ocean, opening the way for the widespread European exploration and colonization of the Americas. His expeditions, sponsored by the Catholic Monarchs of Spain, were the first European contact with the Caribbean, Central America, and South America.

Quotes

 * I promise this, that if I am supported by our most invincible sovereigns with a little of their help, as much gold can be supplied as they will need, indeed as much of spices, of cotton, of mastic gum (which is only found in Chios), also as much of aloes wood, and as many slaves for the navy, as their Majesties will wish to demand.
 * "Concerning the Islands Recently Discovered in the Indian Sea" (14 March 1493)

 * I should be judged as a captain who went from Spain to the Indies to conquer a people numerous and warlike, whose manners and religion are very different from ours, who live in sierras and mountains, without fixed settlements, and where by divine will I have placed under the sovereignty of the King and Queen our Lords, an Other World, whereby Spain, which was reckoned poor, is become the richest of countries.
 * Letter to Doña Juana de Torres (October 2015)

Journal of the First Voyage

 * These quotations are translations derived from a summary made by Bartolomé de Las Casas, the original having been lost.

 * I should not proceed by land to the East, as is custom, but by a Westerly route, in which direction we have hitherto no certain evidence that any one has gone.
 * 3 August 1492 diary entry

 * "Thanks be to God," says the Admiral; "the air is soft as in April in Seville, and it is a pleasure to be in it, so fragrant it is."
 * 8 October 1492

 * Here the men lost all patience, and complained of the length of the voyage, but the Admiral encouraged them in the best manner he could, representing the profits they were about to acquire, and adding that it was to no purpose to complain, having come so far, they had nothing to do but continue on to the Indies, till with the help of our Lord, they should arrive there.
 * 10 October 1492
 * Variant translation: Here the people could stand it no longer and complained of the long voyage; but the Admiral cheered them as best he could, holding out good hope of the advantages they would have. He added that it was useless to complain, he had come [to go] to the Indies, and so had to continue it until he found them, with the help of Our Lord.
 * As translated in Journals and Other Documents on the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus (1963) by Samuel Eliot Morison, p. 62

 * Saw pardelas and a green rush near the vessel. The crew of the Pinta saw a cane and a log; they also picked up a stick which appeared to have been carved with an iron tool, a piece of cane, a plant which grows on land, and a board. The crew of the Nina saw other signs of land, and a stalk loaded with rose berries. These signs encouraged them, and they all grew cheerful.
 * 11 October 1492

 * At two o'clock in the morning the land was discovered, at two leagues' distance; they took in sail and remained under the square-sail lying to till day, which was Friday, when they found themselves near a small island, one of the Lucayos, called in the Indian language Guanahani. Presently they descried people, naked, and the Admiral landed in the boat, which was armed, along with Martin Alonzo Pinzon, and Vincent Yanez his brother, captain of the Nina. The Admiral bore the royal standard, and the two captains each a banner of the Green Cross, which all the ships had carried; this contained the initials of the names of the King and Queen each side of the cross, and a crown over each letter Arrived on shore, they saw trees very green many streams of water, and diverse sorts of fruits.
 * Variant translation: At two hours after midnight appeared the land, at a distance of two leagues. They handed all sails and set the treo, which is the mainsail without bonnets, and lay-to waiting for daylight Friday, when they arrived at an island of the Bahamas that was called in the Indians' tongue Guanahani.
 * As translated in Journals and Other Documents on the Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus (1963) by Samuel Eliot Morison, p. 64

 * As I saw that they were very friendly to us, and perceived that they could be much more easily converted to our holy faith by gentle means than by force, I presented them with some red caps, and strings of beads to wear upon the neck, and many other trifles of small value, wherewith they were much delighted, and became wonderfully attached to us. Afterwards they came swimming to the boats, bringing parrots, balls of cotton thread, javelins, and many other things which they exchanged for articles we gave them, such as glass beads, and hawk's bells; which trade was carried on with the utmost good will. But they seemed on the whole to me, to be a very poor people. They all go completely naked, even the women, though I saw but one girl. All whom I saw were young, not above thirty years of age, well made, with fine shapes and faces; their hair short, and coarse like that of a horse's tail, combed toward the forehead, except a small portion which they suffer to hang down behind, and never cut. Some paint themselves with black, which makes them appear like those of the Canaries, neither black nor white; others with white, others with red, and others with such colors as they can find. Some paint the face, and some the whole body; others only the eyes, and others the nose. Weapons they have none, nor are acquainted with them, for I showed them swords which they grasped by the blades, and cut themselves through ignorance. They have no iron, their javelins being without it, and nothing more than sticks, though some have fish-bones or other things at the ends. They are all of a good size and stature, and handsomely formed. I saw some with scars of wounds upon their bodies, and demanded by signs the of them; they answered me in the same way, that there came people from the other islands in the neighborhood who endeavored to make prisoners of them, and they defended themselves. I thought then, and still believe, that these were from the continent. It appears to me, that the people are ingenious, and would be good servants and I am of opinion that they would very readily become Christians, as they appear to have no religion. They very quickly learn such words as are spoken to them. If it please our Lord, I intend at my return to carry home six of them to your Highnesses, that they may learn our language. I saw no beasts in the island, nor any sort of animals except parrots.
 * 12 October 1492; This entire passage is directly quoted from Columbus in the summary by Bartolomé de Las Casas

 * Presently we discovered two or three villages, and the people all came down to the shore, calling out to us, and giving thanks to God.… An old man came on board my boat; the others, both men and women cried with loud voices: "Come and see the men who have come from the sky. Bring them victuals and drink."
 * 13 October 1492

 * I wished to give a complete relation to your Highnesses, and also where a fort might be built…. However, I do not see it to be necessary, because these people are simple in weapons…. With fifty men I could subjugate them all and make them do everything that is required of them.
 * 14 October 1492

 * The Admiral says that he never beheld so fair a thing: trees all along the river, beautiful and green, and different from ours, with flowers and fruits each according to their kind, many birds and little birds which sing very sweetly.
 * 28 October 1492

 * The two Christians met on the way many people who were going to their towns, women and men, with a firebrand in the hand, herbs to drink the smoke thereof, as they are accustomed.
 * On smoking, 6 November 1492

 * When there are such lands there should be profitable things without number.
 * 27 November 1492

 * And I say that Your Highnesses ought not to consent that any foreigner does business or sets foot here, except Christian Catholics, since this was the end and the beginning of the enterprise, that it should be for the enhancement and glory of the Christian religion, nor should anyone who is not a good Christian come to these parts.
 * 27 November 1492

 * ...your Highnesses may believe that this island (Hispaniola), and all the others, are as much yours as Castile. Here there is only wanting a settlement and the order to the people to do what is required. For I, with the force I have under me, which is not large, could march over all these islands without opposition. I have seen only three sailors land, without wishing to do harm, and a multitude of Indians fled before them. They have no arms, and are without warlike instincts; they all go naked, and are so timid that a thousand would not stand before three of our men. So that they are good to be ordered about, to work and sow, and do all that may be necessary, and to build towns, and they should be taught to go about clothed and to adopt our customs.
 * 16 December 1492

 * The Admiral ordered the lord to be given some things, and he and all his folk rested in great contentment, believing truly that they had come from the sky, and to see the Christians they held themselves very fortunate.
 * 22 December 1492

 * I certify to Your Highnesses that in the world I believe that there are no better people nor better land. They love their neighbors as themselves, and have a speech that is sweetest in the world, and mild and always laughing.
 * 25 December 1492

 * "Of this voyage, I observe," says the Admiral, "that it has miraculously been shown, as may be understood by this writing, by the many signal miracles that He has shown on the voyage, and for me, who for so great a time was in the court of Your Highnesses with the opposition and against the opinion of so many high personages of your household, who were all against me, alleging this undertaking to be folly, which I hope in Our Lord will be to the greater glory of Christianity, which to some slight extent already has happened."
 * 15 March 1493

Letter to the Sovereigns (1493)

 * Letter to the Sovereigns, First Voyage (15 February - 4 March 1493)

 * It is true that after they have been reassured and have lost this fear, they are so artless and so free with all they possess, that no one would believe it without having seen it. Of anything they have, if you ask them for it, they never say no; rather they invite the person to share it, and show as much love as if they were giving their hearts.

 * And they know neither sect nor idolatry, with the exception that all believe that the source of all power and goodness is in the sky, and they believe very firmly that I, with these ships and people, came from the sky, and in this belief they everywhere received me, after they had overcome their fear.

Journal of the Third Voyage (1498)

 * Journal of the Third Voyage (May - August 1498)

 * I have come to believe that this is a mighty continent which was hitherto unknown. I am greatly supported in this view by reason of this great river, and by this sea which is fresh.

Letter to the Sovereigns (1498)

 * Letter to the Sovereigns, Third Voyage (18 October 1498)

 * I have always read that the world, both land and water, was spherical, as the authority and researches of Ptolemy and all the others who have written on this subject demonstrate and prove, as do the eclipses of the moon and other experiments that are made from east to west, and the elevation of the North Star from north to south.

 * Your Highnesses have an Other World here, by which our holy faith can be so greatly advanced and from which such great wealth can be drawn.

Letter to the Sovereigns (1503)

 * Lettera Rarissima to the Sovereigns, Fourth Voyage (7 July 1503)

 * The tempest was terrible and separated me from my [other] vessels that night, putting every one of them in desperate straits, with nothing to look forward to but death. Each was certain the others had been destroyed. What man ever born, not excepting Job, who would not have died of despair, when in such weather seeking safety for my son, my brother, shipmates, and myself, we were forbidden [access to] the land and the harbors which I, by God's will and sweating blood, had won for Spain?

 * I came to serve you at the age of 28 and now I have not a hair on me that is not white, and my body is infirm and exhausted. All that was left to me and my brothers has been taken away and sold, even to the cloak that I wore, without hearing or trial, to my great dishonor.

 * Weep for me, whoever has charity, truth and justice! I did not come on this voyage for gain, honor or wealth, that is certain; for then the hope of all such things was dead. I came to Your Highnesses with honest purpose and sincere zeal; and I do not lie. I humbly beseech You Highnesses that, if it please God to remove me hence, you will help me to go to Rome and on other pilgrimages.

Misattributed

 * One does not discover new lands without consenting to lose sight of the shore for a very long time.
 * Variants include "You can never cross the ocean unless you have the courage to lose sight of the shore".
 * Actually by André Gide.
 * Following the light of the sun, we left the old world
 * Posted on various blogs and webpages without citation. The term "old world" originated around 1596, decades after Christopher Columbus' death.. Earliest reference in Google Books dates to 2001.

Quotes about Christopher Columbus

 * When everybody says "lesbian," a word connected with Sappho and the island of Lesbos, that automatically means that your forefathers and foremothers are European, that George Washington is the father of our country and Columbus discovered America-all false assumptions.
 * Gloria E. Anzaldúa interview in Backtalk: women writers speak out by Donna Marie Perry (1993)

 * it is not quite accurate to say that the indigenous population gave of themselves and their land for that noble purpose. Rather, they were slaughtered, decimated, and dispersed in the course of one of the greatest exercises in genocide in human history...which we celebrate each October when we honor Columbus-a notable mass murderer himself-on Columbus Day.
 * Noam Chomsky Manufacturing Consent (1988)

 * there was no Italy — Columbus was from Genoa, a city-state. He died in Spain. So, you know, it’s a very weak link to Italianness. And, of course, Italians have such illustrious people they can celebrate, that everyone celebrates — Michelangelo, Vivaldi and, of course, for us on the left, Sacco and Vanzetti.
 * Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, Interview with Democracy Now (2021)

 * The Columbus myth suggests that from US independence onward, colonial settlers saw themselves as part of a world system of colonization. "Columbia," the poetic, Latinate name used in reference to the United States from its founding throughout the nineteenth century, was based on the name of Christopher Columbus. The "Land of Columbus" was-and still is-represented by the image of a woman in sculptures and paintings, by institutions such as Columbia University, and by countless place names, including that of the national capital, the District of Columbia.7 The 1798 hymn "Hail, Columbia" was the early national anthem and is now used whenever the vice president of the United States makes a public appearance, and Columbus Day is still a federal holiday despite Columbus never having set foot on the continent claimed by the United States.
 * Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz, An Indigenous Peoples' History of the United States (2014)

 * I did barge around the library fully pregnant, that's true too, and in fact I became almost obsessed with Columbus for several months. I didn't expect him to come alive, or to become such an unwieldy, slyly teasing, deceptive, wholly frustrating subject. I used to throw my head down on the table sometimes and wish, just wish, I could talk to him. I know I could have made him understand what was going to happen, made him understand cultural history and ethnocentrism. He was brilliant, strange, and emotional, and very, very cruel.
 * 1993 interview in Conversations with Louise Erdrich and Michael Dorris edited by Allan Chavkin and Nancy Feyl Chavkin (1994)

 * One of the least known and studied aspects of US history involves the centuries-long trade in Indian slaves. Only in the last decade or two have scholars begun in earnest to piece together and analyze the trade in Indigenous bodies introduced by Christopher Columbus from his first voyage to the New World in 1492.
 * Dina Gilio-Whitaker As Long as Grass Grows: The Indigenous Fight for Environmental Justice, from Colonization to Standing Rock (2019)

 * Christopher Columbus landed first in the New World at the island of San Salvador, and after praising God enquired urgently for gold.
 * C. L. R. James, The Black Jacobins (1938), p. 3

 * Christopher Columbus made landfall in the western hemisphere in 1492. His venture was characteristic of the internationalism of the American enterprise. He operated from the Spanish city of Seville but came from Genoa and he was by nationality a citizen of the Republic of Venice, which then ran an island empire in the Eastern Mediterranean. The finance for his transatlantic expedition was provided by himself and other Genoa merchants in Seville, and topped up by the Spanish Queen Isabella, who had seized quantities of cash when her troops occupied Granada earlier that year.
 * Paul Johnson, A History of the American People (1999), p. 6

 * Columbus’s letter from his third voyage contains his description of the world’s shape as being that of a pear or a woman’s breast, with what he thinks he has discovered to be the Garden of Eden being on the nipple.
 * Paul Lauter (ed.) The Health Anthology of American Literature, citing Cecil Jane (ed., tr.) The Four Voyages of Columbus (1988)

 * I first ask the kids, "What language do you think Columbus spoke?" Some agree on Spanish; some of the more astute ones even venture Italian. When I ask them what the Arawak spoke they respond, "English." Which, of course, to them is the "American" language. By way of illustration, I call two Cantonese-speaking kids to the center of the circle and ask them to speak their native tongue. They do so, at first shyly, then with pride that they have something special to contribute to this lesson. The rest of the kids-African American, Latino, and Pilipino-respond that the words sound like nonsense to them. In short, it is gibberish. We begin to improvise. Five kids volunteer to be Columbus and his crew and another five an Arawak chief and his tribe. The two groups confront each other, speaking "gibberish"-gibberish that ends up meaning "I came for gold and if you refuse to give me what I want, I will kill you," which is exactly where genocide and greed meet. Columbus and crew raise and shoot their rifles and the Arawak drop dead en masse. They had not been directed to do so. This was an improvisation, which ended our rehearsal for the day and began our first lesson in colonization. And we, the kids and I, have fallen in love with theater's power to teach. Truth. Or lies. You choose, as Augosto Boal reminds us.
 * Cherríe Moraga A Xicana Codex of Changing Consciousness (2011)

Amusingly Christopher Columbus totally bungled this... confusing Arabic miles with Italian miles, concluding that he needed to sail only 3,700 km... when the true value was 19,600 km.
 * Eratosthenes... knew that the Sun was straight overhead in... Syene at noon on the, but that it was 7.2 degrees south of straight overhead in , located 794 kilometers farther north. He concluded... 794 kilometers corresponded to 7.2 degrees out of the 360 degrees... around Earth's circumference, so that the circumference must be 794 km x 360°/7.2°≈39,700 km... remarkably close to the modern value of 40,000 km.
 * Max Tegmark, Our Mathematical Universe: My Quest for the Ultimate Nature of Reality (2014)

 * Princess Marie-Esméralda of Belgium: The fact that our public space is dominated by images to the glory of white men, conquerors, and certain colonizers or slavers undoubtedly contributes to the sense that history celebrates the supremacy of the white race. The "discovery" of America by Christopher Columbus, regardless of the explorer's merits, reflects a Eurocentric view of the world. Wasn't it a continent that has essentially been 'discovered' since it was inhabited? His troops plundered the local wealth, enslaved the natives and spread unknown diseases.
 * Princess Esmeralda: Leopold II belongs in the museum

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