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Improving Technical Topics At Wikiversity

Pilot Team
Please sign up if you are interested in helping with a pilot topic/course!
 * Content Expert: Daviddoria 14:10, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Software Architect/Web Programmer:
 * Education Expert:
 * Graphic Artist:
 * Narrator: IanKeyworth
 * Human Factors Expert:

Once a team is assembled, I'd like to host a brainstorming session!

What is the project about?
Technical topics such as mathematics, science, and engineering are currently taught at universities by experts in these disciplines. Lectures are designed by one person. Text books are written by only one or two authors and minimal additional help by an editor. There have been many recent attempts to incorporate "technology" into the classroom by using "learning management systems." These systems provide a reasonable infrastructure for an online course, but are not used to actually teach material. Another recent attempt to modernize education is posting videos of lectures online and making them available to enrolled students, and in some cases, even the general public. While posting video lectures online is better than not, they are still capturing only one person's effort, and that person is likely only trained in the field they are teaching. "Why is this a bad thing?" you may ask. The instructors job has two parts 1) to know the subject well enough to teach it and 2) to know how to teach it! Typically only part 1 is ensured by a university. Our vision of the "correct" way to teach a subject requires a very multidisciplinary team.

Skilled Members of a Hyper-Multidisciplinary Team

 * Content Expert - This is currently the lecturer. These people are highly trained in the technical material being taught. In almost all learning situations, this is the one and only person on the team! (The technical material on Wikiversity is already excellent!)

 * Software Architect/Web Programmer - This person is responsible for ensuring that the system is modular and reusable. This person is an expert in modern web technologies such as Web2.0. It is his job to make the system easy to use, bug free, modular, and easily expandable. He will work closely with Graphic Artist and Human Factors Expert. (this is already accomplished by Wikiversity!)

 * Education Expert - This person is trained in the art of education. They bring to the table an understanding of various learning styles and teaching methodologies.

 * Graphic Artist - This person is responsible for working with the Web Programmer and Human Factors Expert to make things "look good."

 * Narrator - Rather than an impromptu speech that goes along with lecture content, in our system the content expert will work with the narrator to develop a script to go along with modules. The narrator is responsible for recording these scripts in an engaging tone - a "voice actor" if you will!

 * Human Factors Expert - This person works with the Education Expert to ensure that the system is designed in a fashion that makes efficient use of screen space, human visual and audio capabilities, and knowledge of how people "like" to do things.

Work together, do it once, do it right!
(this is already accomplished by wikiversity!) There should be no reason for every Calculus instructor across the world to develop his own teaching materials. We need to work together to collaboratively create the "world's best" instructional materials for all of the core mathematics, science, and engineering topics. These materials haven't changed for hundreds of years, and show no signs of changing in the near future. Currently almost every instructor who teachers one of these basic classes works alone and starts from the scratch, possibly following one of way too many text books available on the subject. Our goal is to reshape this model to where thousands of instructors world wide will have a massive foundation to start with and can focus on sharing their experience with their students rather than simply sharing facts that are available "anytime and anywhere" in this now very digital and connected age.

Why are we building it?
Years of studying, teaching, and working have led us to see the importance of teaching mathematics, science, and engineering concepts concisely, accurately, and in such a way that modern students will receive the greatest benefit. Recent studies in education have led to the concept of the "Lecture paradigm inversion" and the "separation of training from education."

I have recently come across a very interesting example of how our society has an amazing amount of resources (financial and expertise) but is expending significant effort in all the wrong places. In the recent blockbuster film Avatar, there was a budget of $500,000,000 and over 1,000 technical experts staffed. After the initial hype, the long term contribution to society is essentially non-existent. On the other hand, a typical text book is the result of the work of 2-5 people and an extremely small budget. The text book, however, has an extreme impact on society, as it is used as part of the training of the engineers who will design for our society for the next half-century!

Another issue is the separation of “training” from “education.” We will define "training" as the mechanics of problem solving, learning terminology, etc, while “education” is the transfer of experience and insight from the instructor to the students. We are striving to create a system to “outsource the training to screens.” That is, the students should be responsible for learning the mechanics and the “dry” parts of course topics on their own. They can then spend the valuable in-class time in thoughtful discussion with the course professor. This outsourcing, of course, would need to be to more than simply a text book or it would never work. Enter this new, multi-disciplinary system of teaching.

Information Centralization
There is a finite (and actually quite small) set of concepts that are taught in the first year or two of a typical engineering curriculum. There is currently no central hub at which to find all of the information presented in a uniform fashion. Currently, the quality of instruction of a topic wildly varies by institute. And not necessarily in the "the more you pay, the better you get" sense that people typically imagine. It is basically luck of the draw. You could go to a prestigious ivy league school and easily have an instructor who is too busy to care about teaching Freshmen Calculus 1. You could just as easily go to a state school or community college and have an instructor who is passionate about education and provide the best instruction that a student could ask for. We are trying to smooth this wild variation and provide an instructional tool which can break down institute, and financial borders. In fact, there is no reason for a person to be involved with an institute at all to learn these concepts.

Assessment
It would be nice to incorporate some self-assessment into wikiversity. It needs to be machine-grade-able. Multiple choice seems reasonable. The questions should be well thought out and really test a concept, not just a mechanical process.

Existing Examples
These contain very good content: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Calculus/Differentiation/Differentiation_Defined http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Introduction_to_differentiation

They are much too "dry" though. We need to take content like this and transform it with the psychologist/human factors/graphics people. These pages are clearly written only by math people. It is 10 pages of text and equations with not a single image. I claim that if we add some color, an image/animation for every topic, some interaction, some little self-assessment quizes, etc (+ more suggestions from this hyper-multi-disciplinary team), it would be 1000x easier to actually learn something.

Call for Action
What this boils down to is getting non-math/engineering people to visit, analyze, and improve the "education" factors in the math/engineering pages! I am open for suggestions on how to get this to happen, as well as comments/suggestions about the ideas presented here. --Daviddoria 12:18, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

For discussion, see the discussion page.

IPDE Method of Instruction
Here is some more food for though as we work on these things: (Taken from my never launched website :) http://engineeringnotes.net/Ideology.shtml)

It has been my experience that in many technical courses, instructors tend to get "buried in the details". It is my philosophy that topics must be motivated with a "what's the point" attitude. This allows students to immediately see the reason that the subject at hand is of interest, which keeps them motivated. It should also help them to see links between topics in the course and to other courses they are taking, have taken, or will take in the future. This is critical for a graduate student, as, by definition, he needs to combine the ideas that he has learned to solve a previously unsolved problem. I propose a simple four step procedure of instruction which, if implemented properly, will help achieve the aformentioned goals. I have used this method in the Primers on this website, and I recommend that lectures,lecture notes, and even text books follow this procedure as well.

Idea
Present answers to the following questions: When we are done studying this topic, what is it that we are able to do that we could not do before? In laymans terms, "What is this?"

Procedure
Clearly, even with this "what's the point" attitude in mind, the step by step process of how to perform the task at hand is still required. A (appoximately) one sentence explanation of each step should be given, such that it would be appropriate to title the procedure "4 Easy Steps To XYZ".

Details
In some cases, there is a particularly troublesome point in the procedure or a "magic" number that appears in an equation. These "helpful hints" or in-depth explanations should be presented.

Example
To tie the three previous sections together, it is extremely helpful to work though a typical example problem. The problem that is chosen should be one which clearly represents the most typical usage of idea that is being taught. It is VERY important that the example NOT contain overly complicated mathematics which simply serve as a distraction from the point.


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Call for help!
Any human factors experts willing to help with this initiative: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:ImprovingTechnicalContent#Making_Technical_Wikiversity_Topics_Better_Teaching_Tools_by_Utilizing_the_Skills_of_a_Hyper-Multidisciplinary_Team ??

Daviddoria 01:06, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Graphic Design

Call for help!
Any graphic designers willing to help with this initiative: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:ImprovingTechnicalContent#Making_Technical_Wikiversity_Topics_Better_Teaching_Tools_by_Utilizing_the_Skills_of_a_Hyper-Multidisciplinary_Team ??

Daviddoria 01:19, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

=Graphic Design Overhaul= I feel that this section of wikiversity requires some desperate TLC and alongside my current Diploma in Graphic Design have decided to take on the challenge. I am currently undertaking my own studies in this area here, which I aim to use as a sounding board and explore my own ideas/concepts. I would love to hear from anyone who may be interested in helping out and who may have more experience. Blondlox (discuss • contribs) 11:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Very Cool! I'm only online in short bursts but I'm encouraged by your valor • CQ (discuss • contribs) 15:31, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

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User talk:Worth.Alex

 Hello Worth.Alex, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Talk:Website fingerprinting

Hm.. interesting idea. Try this:

Which sites to store?
The Alexa.com top 1 million + selected categories in DMOZ.org like banks.

Which pages to store?
The main page and the login pages.

How to find the login pages?
Check the link text of each  link off the main page for a set of keywords, eg. login, signin, sign-in. Index each page that matches up to a limit of 500.

If no link text if found, then check each link's destination page for login forms. They can be identified by input tags with the password setting and other keywords. If this doesn't work then try training a bayesian text classifier.

How to make a fingerprint?

 * 1) a hash of the HTML tags, eg. html,head,title,/title,/head
 * 2) a hash of the HTML except for URLs, eg. remove text in <a href="", style declarations, etc.

How do I know if the fingerprint method is good?
Collect an archive of mirrored phishing websites and test.

How do I implement it?
Collect the fingerprints and identify login pages using WhatWeb (http://www.morningstarsecurity.com/research/whatweb). I wrote WhatWeb BTW and you'll need to write a couple of custom plugins, maybe I will help you.... maybe not.

Make a web browser plugin.
It sends the URL + fingerprint to the server.

Make a server
it receives URLs+page fingerprints and responds with:
 * 1) url found, fingerprint matches. all good in da hood
 * 2) url found, fingerprint doesn't match. maybe they redesigned their website, maybe it's a MITM attack, better check the actual URL for verification from the central server.
 * 3) url not found, fingerprint not found. whatever... don't lose your trust in small businesses
 * 4) url not found, fingerprint found. maybe it's a phishing site.
 * 5) url not found, fingerprint found for >1 trusted websites. probably a false positive for a CMS default login page.

Meh.. that's about it. I wouldn't bother the user unless you get condition 2 or 4. You should pop something up and let them choose what to do, eg. redirect to the trusted site with the same fingerprint.

What's the greatest challenge involved in this?
Who's gonna pay for the bandwidth? It could work for a single corp, antivirus vendor or google.

Who wrote this up?
Andrew Horton / urbanadventurer

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User:KYPark

AI vs HI

 * From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Universal_grammar#Simplism

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Korean lexicology

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Contextualism

Overview
nature v. nurture embedded a priori v. embodied a posteriori cognitive revolution (1956) v. contextual revolution (when)

All these would be a matter of complementarity rather than polarity. Yet cognitivists or internalists used to speak proud and loud of the cognitive revolution as if it had silenced behaviorists or externalists since 1956. They seemed to make best use of the magic of the trendy and tricky term "cognitive science" replacing "psycholinguistics."

Interestingly, it is while the center of meaning as a new earthquake was shifting from semantic externalism without the subject, say, Word and Object (Willard Quine 1960) to semantic internalism within it, say, the person of Person and Object (Roderick Chisholm 1976), which is identified case by case in the complex context, seasoned and reasoned, hence preferring context-based behaviorism to context-free nativism.

Meanwhile, Donald Davidson described Hilary Putnam's semantic externalism (1975) as an "anti-subjectivist revolution." However, it was reactionary rather than revolutionary in reality, as it had long occupied not only their Harvard but also analytic philosophy at large under their control. Now it is their turn to be challenged particularly (more than phenomenology) by integral, synoptic or synthetic philosophy, based on cogito-centric (not really "subjectivist" but plainly "user-centered") contextualism.

The triangle of reference (Ogden & Richards 1923) may be specially noteworthy in this regard, which puts THOUGHT on top of SYMBOL and REFERENT, that is, Word and Object (Quine 1960). Walker Percy (1975) called it the "Delta Factor" as "absolutely irreducible," whereas Hilary Putnam (1975) argued for semantic externalism close to phenomenology, as suggested by his dictum, "Meanings just ain't in the head."

As an extension, the triangle with THOUGHT on top suggests that both the textual and phenomenal contexts are necessarily mediated by the mental context that thus should not simply be excluded or bracketed. Both analytic philosophy's and phenomenology's objectivist or positivist argument for human projects or texts and divine objects, respectively, regardless of secular subjects at issue, may be fatally biased and flawed, hence an absolute anomaly in those paradigms.

Suddenly starting from 1975 indeed, the "contextual revolution," as later named by Jerome Bruner (1990), was taking place widespread to replace the "cognitive revolution," as called by his old Harvard colleague George A. Miller in favor of Herbert Simon, Noam Chomsky, and others.

Nevertheless, it is yet to be widely known as such. It is watered down as much as the claim for cognitive revolution. Indeed, it is as cognitive as subjective, but not so native. It focuses on the self or cogito in context, no more in isolation, as had been exactly the case unfortunately.

There are so many contextual revolutionaries at UC Berkeley, among whom Hubert Dreyfus may be the champion who mainly aimed at such cognitivists in AI as Herbert Simon, Allen Newell, Marvin Minsky, Seymour Papert, etc. Each had to look for one contextualist outlook or another.

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User talk:KYPark

 Hello KYPark, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may

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 * Read an introduction for teachers and find out how to write an educational resource for Wikiversity.
 * Give feedback about your initial observations
 * Discuss Wikiversity issues or ask questions at the colloquium.
 * Chat with other Wikiversitans on #wikiversity-en.

And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage, and see you around Wikiversity! If you're a twitter user, please follow http://twitter.com/Wikiversity. --Ottava Rima (talk) 12:35, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Invite to History of Ottoman Empire Course
Hi! If you want to be student on History of the Ottoman Empire course, you can learn History of Ottoman Empire. Also you can be assistant student and professional student about History of Ottoman Empire. You can ask any questions, doing homeworks and making quiz about History of Ottoman Empire. Good works... --Bermanya 19:19, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

 * What a tricky template! -- KYPark [T] 07:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Warning
Do not make edits like you did at my talk page. Discussion needs to go on the Colloquium if you want the proposal to happen. I posted a link so everyone would go there. That is not an excuse for you to attack me or to keep things in your subspace instead of going to the Colloquium. If you keep up the attacks, it will be a sign that you do not care about proposing (as the Colloquium is the only place for that) and that you only care about being disruptive. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Click here, I started a discussion for you. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:47, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Dear Ottava

Thank you for suggesting my proposal to the Colloquium. Before I go there, however, I have to protest against the way you've been doing with my proposal.

From the beginning, you did not like my proposal to go to the WV Colloquium but the WMF, and User:Darklama was against your insistence as such. At last, you unjustly blamed him as if he had had things backward, making him upset and protesting.

In fact, he's been absolutely keen on Namespaces/Proposals for new namespaces. To me, he's minded so that you would not look ignorant. But his first comment was "This sounds like a typical suggestion for a new namespace, that requires discussion and proof of consensus by the Wikiversity community." Respecting his expertise, you might have insisted no more.

User:Adambro moderatingly advised you toward the Colloquium. It took you a whole day to follow his advice minimally, if not worse. Prior to that and the reasonable conclusion of the talk, you hurriedly hid rather than archived my serious, if not strategic, proposal and the long series of our serious follow-on talks thereon away from the sight of the WV readers at large.

I've never been attacking you but protesting against injustice you are supposed to have done me as well as Darklama and perhaps the readers at large.

I would not waste my life attacking you, why should I? but fighting back whenever injustice is done especially to me. As above, you yourself are warning, threatening, in effect attacking me. Is it related to what you deleted as shown in the red box below?

Nevertheless I have to protest against your deletion of the following from User talk:Ottava Rima:

 * Whether this or User talk:Ottava Rima/Archive, what an ambiguity, injustice and distortion to my original courtesy visit in return and constructive proposal stating:

 * Isn't this a hopeless case of getting more and more emotional and unjust, resulting from making false references and inferences annoyingly? Very regrettably anyway --KYPark 03:18, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Very regrettably again --KYPark 03:30, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but I missed making one vital comment regarding the subpage User:KYPark/Hi Ottava Rima you seem to mind. This never aims to attack you but to contain whatever I make reference and inference regarding the new namespace. Actually it has evolved quite a lot since. This would serve as my basis on which I may make a Proposal for a referential strategy or the like, as I mentioned before, as you should remember. Should you doubt, open the revision history and find how much I've worked on it. --KYPark 03:50, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Other wikis
I've seen systems for tracking citations at other wikis, for example the French Wikipedia. It should not be too hard to do the same here. --JWSchmidt 14:22, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks a lot for your concern and comment. I'm yet to look around them. Meanwhile, I think it's up to the WV community what option it would take or figure out from a variety of hardships and benefits. Anyway, we could start and evolve from the least hardship.
 * --KYPark 01:50, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I followed your link to the French WP, and found such a librarian catalog-card kind would be definitely the last choice of mine. I wish the structure of Cite pages could remain simplest, except for the WV hierarchy of sections.
 * --KYPark 02:12, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Cite namespace proposal
Thanks for your work on this so far. I'm thinking that it could be helpful to make the proposal on a separate page soonish. It's good to have discussion on Colloquium as we've been doing, but as the concepts mature and the responses become less frequent it could be good to copy and edit the ideas and proposal onto its own page. No hurry and just a suggestion. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 04:08, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Have you seen Wikicite? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:22, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Can you understand or explain this?
Can you understand or explain this? —Moulton 09:13, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 * To explain it, wouldn't you need a theory of mind that delved into the psychology of a character like Javert (in Les Miserables by Victor Hugo)? —Barsoom Tork 09:29, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Moulton, I take conditioned reflex and confirmation bias far more seriously than nativism and free will. So I admit people vary and they need moral reciprocity for peace in principle, not always in practice. Therefore they welcome or have to fight, including you and me.
 * -- KYPark [T] 04:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I have noticed that those who imagine they have the upper hand (e.g. via control of Custodial tools) are more likely to choose to pick a fight than to undertake the more difficult work of building bridges, reaching common ground, and crafting peace. What perpelexes me is the puzzle of how to persuade such individuals to lay down their arms and join in the more rewarding work of creative and collaborative problem solving. If you have any insights to share in how to work that problem, I'd be most grateful. —Moulton  04:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Oh no, I'm not such a wise man. But let's look for it together from now on without so hurrying, as persuasion is one of what troubes us most, as I suggested elsewhere. And this may be no good place for getting the job done. -- KYPark [T] 05:21, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

removal of edits of blocked user to your user talk page
A blocked user edited your talk page as IP, and Adambro -- and later I -- reverted those edits, per policy allowing the removal of all edits by a user evading a block by editing as IP. These were the same user, I believe, and you may, of course, read the edits in history if you wish, and you may even restore the edits should you wish them to be on your Talk page, and you may respond to them. But please be careful, this editor is blocked for some solid reasons now, even though he may have been unfairly blocked in the past. --Abd 01:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I restored them. Moulton 03:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Reply to removal of edits

 * Thanks for your information, Abd. And fair enough if the policy and the reasons for blocking are so solid, though I'd believe his overall sanity. He appears a man of honor out there. So I'm so sorry about this "strange case" of a "sane vandal" as if Janus-faced "Jekyll and Hyde". -- KYPark [T] 03:46, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * KY, you are a Systems Thinker like me. Have you independently confirmed Abd's "solid reasons" to ensure he is on solid ground and not floating on a flight of fancy?  Anyway, I did want to make your acquaintance, as I believe we can learn a great deal from each other.  If, for some reason, the ad hoc ochlocracy continues to interfere with our communication, is there another wiki where we could converse in peace?  —Moulton  03:58, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Moulton, check your musenet email. -- KYPark [T] 05:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I searched through all my e-mail folders (including my spam folders) and can find nothing from you. Please try again.  Moulton 23:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Isn't it mailto:bkort@musenet.org ? -- KYPark [T] 06:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

email
I tried sending you an email using Special:EmailUser/KYPark. I sent you another email address besides the musenet one. --JWSchmidt 09:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Clarifying the Moulton situation
Hi KYPark - Please feel free to share your view here: Request custodian action. My suggestion is that we consider having a community discussion about the current block in which Moulton is allowed to participate. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 11:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * The most critical point, as most eloquently suggested by Abd, seems to me that Moulton should show hard evidence first of all that he is really willing:
 * to resume his normal user account, and then
 * to behave himself especially in respecting the community norms and perhaps administrator's authority.
 * The first question would be needless to doubt, though some may do. The second is problematic indeed, because he should confess what wrong he has done to the community. As I said on the Colloquium, this is so outdated, say, old Korean stylish, as to be laughable nowdadays, I am afraid.
 * Were I an admin, I would inform him that he had done so and so wrong violating such and such community norms to such and such effects on the community, and then:
 * ask him if he would do so again, and set him free if he says no. Or, alternatively,
 * tell him not to do so again, set him free, and wait until he does so again.
 * You may see I as such am childish or simplist, while I see simple is beautiful! Indeed I am too sick and tired of all those talkative and inconclusive talks all over the places to take part in for the sake of participatory communality or democracy.
 * I was asking you if you are also concerning about the disruptive embodiment of my proposal, as JWS are, rather than the unblocking of Moulton or anyone else, though it is not really in isolation from the former.
 * -- KYPark [T] 16:02, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * "Were I an admin, I would inform him that he had done so and so wrong violating such and such community norms" <-- If there were existing consensus on community norms then policies like Privacy policy would have been put in place two years ago. This is the time for discussion and collaboration, not excluding a scholar like Moulton. --JWSchmidt 16:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I am supposed to understand your view well. Coincidentally hence independently, both you and I want Moulton to be free. I am so sorry why unblocking him is so hard here nevertheless. Please understand I came here too recently to speak up suddenly as if I were a wise man.
 * -- KYPark [T] 00:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 * We all do as good as we can. Be bold. --JWSchmidt 02:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 * I have never been freer. I have long dreamed of playing the role of Henry David Thoreau, Mohandas K. Gandhi, or Martin Luther King in a theatrical reprise of their teachings.  Wikiversity has given me the freedom to engage in a learning project that I have never been offered before.  —Moulton  02:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Go answer Colloquium, Moulton. -- KYPark [T] 01:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Category:Augmented knowledge workshop
Did you perhaps mean for this page to be Augmented knowledge workshop? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 07:22, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I noticed another page that you created called Category:Augmenting Human Intellect which looks like it should be in mainspace Augmenting Human Intellect instead. Could you explain what you were intending with these pages so that we can help you organize the content? --mikeu talk 18:20, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Another category: Category:Charles Moore 2010 WWA --mikeu talk 18:25, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi there. First, see my reply to Jtneill as boxed above. Furthermore, you might perhaps better see Colloquium/archives/July_2010. This would be quite a workload, I fear. But may I wish you could make good sense of it anyway! Good luck! -- KYPark [T] 08:58, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Secret Garden
-- KYPark [T] 14:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

 * PAGENAME :
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 * See also : /Sandbox
 * Subpages
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 * /English
 * /BasicEnglish

Category:Authors A etc.
What are you doing with this? Seems extraneous to me. Was there some particular application you had in mind? --Abd 20:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * See User talk:Abd. -- KYPark [T] 23:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)  This link is now archived:  User_talk:Abd/Archive/4 -- KYPark [T] 00:40, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * -- KYPark [T] 15:05, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

World knowledge, by year
I like the idea behind your use of 1900, 1901, Category:1900, &c. I would rename them to:
 * World knowledge/1900, World knowledge/1901, &c.
 * Category:World knowledge 1900

But for now I simply like seeing the work you are doing. Thank you for sharing. –SJ + > 21:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Oh no for God's sake, SJ. I thank you for liking my idea, as this may be a positive sign of progress since User talk:Abd that has remained unanswered. However you may like mine, however, may I cordially ask you to revisit and resolve Abd's in sufficient details first of all before you go ahead? Thanks again for your attention. -- KYPark [T] 11:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Category:Charles Moore 2010 WWA
What is this? It seems related to Great Repeal Bill. But what? This isn't a category, why did you create it as one?

I looked at your old discussion and, frankly, couldn't make heads nor tails of it. --Abd 00:28, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

 * The content was moved to 2010/Moore, to which the above category page was redirected and assigned to Category:To be deleted. Similar steps will be taken sooner or later for the similarly annoying categories with which I had experimented before my cite system was fixed. So take it easy, but you may kindly help me delete them. KYPark [T] 03:22, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

✅ I also deleted the new category you created. We have existing categories, and the fast way to get a page deleted is to place on the page, your "reason" would be "author request," that's practically automatic if you are the only substantial author. That will place the page in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. There are also other categories, under Category:Requests for Deletion. Thanks. --Abd 16:01, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Many Thanks. -- KYPark [T] 00:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Please log in, if the IP edits to your categories are you
Please log in, to make it easier to review recent changes. If I see you editing categories, I don't much need to look at it, but if it's IP .... if that's you, please acknowledge, and please do remember to log in before editing. Thanks. --Abd 00:58, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

 * I was testing if it would take less time to edit without log-in I suspect of slowing my edit too much. Should such be the case in practice anyway, pls advise me if I should log in in spite of that. --  KYPark [T] 03:42, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You should always log in. Not a Big Deal if you accidentally edit logged out, and there can be reasons for that, but even if it were true that it is slower logged in (I've never heard of that), a tiny amount of time for you may save much time for many editors who are watching Recent Changes for vandalism. Thanks. --Abd 16:04, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

 * I was not minding "a tiny amount of time for me" but too much an amount indeed. "You should always log in" in spite of that sounds far stronger than I have expected for many wiki years. You mind anti-vandalism while I mind my productivity. Many illegal scripts may be running on my PC. So I often erase all the cuckies and history files, making me log out. Please try to understand I'm in non-trivial trouble indeed in terms of productivity. -- KYPark [T] 00:33, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It sounds like you have bigger problems than what log-in or not would affect, i.e., those illegal scripts. You do need cookies to log in, but you could clear your cookies and then log in. You don't need history to be logged in. You should understand that "antivandalism" involves many editors who work cross-wiki to keep Wikiversity free of vandalism. It's a big task, so it's many people involved. Not just me.
 * Meanwhile, I do see the work you are doing to create your citation system, I appreciate how much time is involved. --Abd 00:41, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

 * Please advise me how my log-out and IP use seriously degrade antivandalism. -- KYPark [T] 01:03, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my slow response, this got lost in the flow of edits, which is now running maybe a thousand edits per day. Even my watchlist is quite busy. As to your question, recent changes patrollers become familiar with established editors, and there is little need to review the edits of established editors. Routinely, if I see your user name, I don't even look at the specific edit unless I have some special interest. I know you are a good-faith contributor. But if you don't log in, I don't know that. That means that I must spend maybe a hundred times as much time reviewing the edit to make sure it's not vandalism. That's still only a minute, maybe. But multiply this by the global sysops and others who review recent changes. If you have a good reason to use IP, you can do it. I wasn't saying it is prohibited. (If you were doing anything controversial, though, sometimes this is called "sock puppetry," or "IP socking." It can be a problem.) --Abd 19:13, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

 * You pressed me enough: "You should always log in." So I complained that your pressure was stronger than I had long expected. Now it sounds much milder.  KYPark [T] 12:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * "You should always log in" was a suggestion. If I'd been ordering you, I'd have written, Log in or I'll block you. I apologize for my unclarity, I did not expect that you would be offended, if you were. Thanks for your response. --Abd 20:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Welcome. -- KYPark [T] 23:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

 * According to Recent Changes, including logged items (blocks, name creation, deletion), there are less than 400 new items per day. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:05, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your information, Ottava. KYPark [T] 12:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * KYPark, I checked for the last 3000 actions in Recent Changes, I think it was Friday night, and it was over 900 actions per day. "1000 edits per day" was a rough impression, and my check seems to confirm it. It's entirely possible that some periods will show much less, it surely depends on the day and other conditions, and Ottava is correct that the number of "new edits" is less, though those other actions do appear in the Recent Changes display, and thus lengthen it. And I don't think it's actually important what the exact number is now. As Wikiversity succeeds in its mission, that number is going to increase greatly, and we should prepare for that. Thanks, Ottava, for checking, and thanks, KYP, for your consideration of all this. Your work is appreciated. --Abd 20:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. -- KYPark [T] 23:06, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

What's wrong with this wiki edit
-- KYPark [T] 07:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

How did we come here at all?
Whom do you think you dare to conspire to bully?

We are foolish enough to see only the tip of the iceberg, and not to see things far more related to each other than they appear.

So are words we use, and so are ideas we have. Relationship makes everything indeed. Gold is worthless to the dying and dead humans as well as the living and dead animals. So was it to Helen Keller before enlightenment.

A eight-year old girl I know has to do with the smart phone and information search, which became part of our everyday life, young and old, hence namely the information (retrieval) revolution (IRR), well proved by the Apple's and Google's huge successes.

The first step of IRR was the simple permutation index introduced in 1958 by [[w:Herbert Ohlman|Herbert Ohlman],] and coincidentally, the key word in context (KWIC) daringly introduced to the same conference by Hans Luhn, very likely unjustly !

The most revolutionary next step must be the cross-referred (cited or quoted)
 * key work in context, since 1974, to overcome
 * key word in context, in tradition.

This likelihood or affordance was completely dismissed "very likely unjustly" again. I wish this doubt to be cleared up anyway!

Ted Nelson coined and conceived hypertext as a web or "docuverse" of texts where transclusions rather than cross-references were made among them. As such, his is conceptually different from the current hypertext! He happened to invent the word, but not the very idea. His term was simply adopted and adapted for the convenience of ....

The current hypertext proper is definitely no outgrowth of his transclusion patent, but most likely of an unpublished master's thesis concerning a direct approach to information retrieval (DAIR), believe it or not.

Simply put, it was to do without silly key words and works out of context! The traditional information retrieval (IR) is linguistically too simplist to be highly successful. "All experts were wrong," as borrowed from Steve Jobs. What's wrong at all?

Most unfortunate is any word in isolation, wished so much to make magic, while there is no such a thing as "word magic," as perhaps first denied by Ogden & Richards (1923). Then, the easy-going idiom "magic of words" should give way to "magic of minds" in science.

Minds should be really cognitive or cognizant of words otherwise than the ignorant and "Machines That Think" (Aisaac Asimov, et al, 1984) As We May Think (Vannebar Bush, 1945), hence AI.

Though still remaining a fancy idea of AI, Bush's memex (1945) has been very unjustly and unwittingly made the best inspiration of hypertext, which in fact is always already ready to be embodied just by making clickable the cross-referred (cited or quoted) work in context, in sharp contrast to SCI which as a business must be more mindful of cost than effectiveness! (I'd not deny SCI's Wellsian happiness but their cost-effectiveness business.)

 * The world would know after all who on earth made a fool of it and a hero of Bush.

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Noam Chomsky reading group
I see you're not editing much lately, but since you created some learning resources about Chomsky, perhaps we could bring you back? Erkan Yilmaz 05:12, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Literature/1923/Ogden/Leon
Content at https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/846327.The_Meaning_of_Meaning is copyrighted and does not have an open source license. While excerpts may be posted under Fair Use guidelines, we can't duplicate entire articles. Rather than duplicating the review, you might consider linking to it and providing your own commentary as to why the review is helpful. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your advice, Dave. I'll reduce it to some excerpts. -- KYPark [T] 20:22, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Literature pages and Wikidata
Hi KYPark!

I stumbled upon the 352 pages about publications you created as subpages of Literature, for instance Literature/1977/Soergel (I counted with the API via  ). Apparently these pages are not connected to Wikidata yet as one get find out with this query:

I linked some of them, e.g. to illustrate. One benefit of Wikidata is we can manage additional information such as citations, e.g. cites. We can automatically create lists of what also cites this publication:

The data is still very incomplete but together we can build a large knowledge base of linked publications (http://wikicite.org/) Maybe I have catched your interest in Wikidata in general and Wikicite in particular? -- JakobVoss (discuss • contribs) 20:30, 14 December 2017 (UTC)

Kam-sa-ham-ni-da
Kam-sa-ham-ni-da for your edits on this wiki. cheers. serenity. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 04:49, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for your serene encouragement, Michael. KYPark [T] 07:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

GFDL and relicense of files
Hi! You have uploaded these files with GFDL: Perhaps you would like to add cc-by-sa-4.0 too because GFDL is not a very good license for media files? --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 12:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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Article proposed for deletion
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@ Wiktionary:

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 * expenditure
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 * taxpayer
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 * economics

@ Wikipedia:

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.Gov domain:

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 * MyMoney
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@ Wikipedia

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You know, it took me months to figure out on en.wikipedia that I didn't need to do anything so complicated as this to get a proper signature, all that is needed is four tildes, i.e.

~, when I'm logged in, substitutes the user name and time stammp. I usually add two hyphens before it.... seems to be nicer. Some users customize their signature, which can gum this up. I always recommend, until they know what they are doing, that new users use the default signature under My preferences/User profile/Signature, and some of the customized signatures can be really confusing to others.

gives me just the user name, and

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In my previous blog post I said: "There has never been a shortage of authorities who abuse their positions of responsibility. Scholarly questioners often attract the wrath of such authorities." How can the participants at the Wikiversity project protect themselves from those who abuse their positions of power?

Bull
I believe in the power of observation, study, discussion and learning. A peaceful community of learners and scholars can protect itself from invading barbarians. Study and documentation of past abuses of power are an important part of how a community of learners can protect itself. Wikiversity is the perfect place for research into abuse of power...or, it was, until 2008 when the Wikiversity community was subjected to a hostile takeover. Those within the Wikimedia community who abuse their power certainly do not want Wikiversity functioning as a place for study and analysis of their abusive behavior.

Under the conditions that have been imposed on Wikiversity since 2008 we must ask: why would any scholarly learner participate at Wikiversity? Wikiversity is now yet another Wikimedia website where policy violators are protected by abusive sysops and scholarly research projects are disrupted and deleted and discussion of these atrocities is censored. The Wikiversity project has been threatened with closure in an effort to bend the will of the community and prevent community members from investigating the problems of Wikimedia wiki websites and their management. Honest Wikiversity participants who would like to fix these problems are driven away from the project. Additional abusive sysops are attracted and installed...the reign of terror is perpetuated.

About the only remaining learning project of relevance at Wikiversity is this: can the Wikiversity project be returned to its peaceful pre-2008 roots?

Signs of hope?
Wikiversity has always had a tiny community that is easily disrupted by authorities who abuse their positions of power. Once in 2008 and again in 2010 Mr. Wales, rather than engaging in community discussion and consensus building, used his "special powers"; he imposed blocks and bans and deleted pages without due process and even performed an emergency desysop procedure when no emergency existed. Damage done to the Wikiversity community has been vast. The community is still struggling to recover. Are there any signs of hope for a brighter future?

Porn madness
Mr. Wales has, in the past, also thrown his weight around at larger Wikimedia projects including his recent intervention at Commons. This statement by Mr. Wales sounds promising. If he will no longer abuse his "Founder flag" powers at Wikiversity then there is a chance that this community can regain its feet and get rid of the all the abusers of power who have operated in the shadow of Mr. Wales.

Irony
Before Mr. Wales visited Wikiversity this year to perform an out-of-process deletion of Wikiversity content, one lonely Wikiversity participant was concerned about "porn" within Wikimedia wiki projects. (I put "porn" in quotes and I'm using the term as a convenient label. The issue is actually more subtle and complex than just pornography, but this is the term selected by the Signpost and I'll go along.) Of course, "porn" has a special place and constituency within Wikimedia, so that lonely Wikiversity scholar had been marginalized by the Wikimedia community.....Mr. Wales even tried to dismiss his concerns as "trolling" and blocked him from editing at Wikiversity. It is ironic that Mr. Wales (cue sound of stampeding bull) trampled on the one Wikiversity participant who was trying to deal with the "porn" problem. When Mr. Wales himself tried to deal with the problem he met the same kind of resistance from the "porn" constituency as had the poor Wikiversity scholar who Mr. Wales had previously gone out of his way to punish.

This episode provides a good example of how Wikiversity could function as a safe haven for scholarly Wikimedians whose good faith efforts to help Wikimedia are rebuffed by the mob rule that characterizes Wikimedia culture. Instead, rampaging Wikimedia "authority figures" prevent Wikiversity scholars from engaging in their research projects.

Related reading: 2008, 2010.

Subpages
One Wikiversity participant described the behavior of Mr. Wales as resembling a bull in a china closet. Another useful analogy is the inattentive and clueless playground monitor. The playground bully pushes another child who is playing peacefully. The peaceful child protects himself from the bully. The clueless playground monitor, late on the scene, punishes the child who was protecting himself from the bully.

There are some diabolical Wikimedia participants who specialize in tormenting honest wiki participants and goading them into some action that can be used as an excuse to ban the honest wiki participant. I study these and other kinds of abusive behaviors within Wikimedia wiki projects, particularly Wikiversity. Of course, given the existing climate of censorship and intimidation at Wikiversity, my research activity is restricted to my user pages. There have in the past been calls to censor my user pages (example), but so far that step has not been taken.

Part of any research project is data collection and collation. Some of the available data concerning abuse of power by sysops ends up on my user talk page. Since the hostile takeover of 2008, I have systematically archived such data on subpages.

JWSchmidt is a Troll
A favorite tactic of abusive sysops is to call good faith wiki participants "troll". The first time I was called "troll" by a fellow Wikiversity participant I was rather shocked. Since 2008 I have made a study of the Wikimedia practice by which people in positions of authority abusively label other Wikimedians as "trolls". There is now a well-entrenched network of abusive administrators who use the label "troll" as a code word for marking wiki participants for elimination. No evidence needs to be provided. The abusive sysop only need toss out the word "troll" and fellow abusive sysops rally around and set to work eliminating the hapless editor who has been targeted for destruction. Quite frequently abusive sysops make use of IRC chat channels to apply labels like "troll" and "dick" to the wiki participants they want to ban. I believe that the official Wikiversity chat channel should be publicly logged so that there is a public record of all the abusive behavior of Wikimedia sysops in that channel. Of course, the abusive sysops of Wikimedia maintain control of the chat channels and they prefer to use them as a safe haven where they can practice their abusive behavior and plan how to eliminate honest wiki participants from Wikimedia wiki communities. I log the Wikiversity chat channel and interested Wikiversity participants who want to see my logs of the chat can contact me privately. In addition to abusive sysops who use the chat channel to fling labels like "troll" and "dick" at their fellow wiki editors, the logs document the bad blocks on chat channel participation that have been imposed. My belief is that the channel logs should be reviewed by the Wikiversity community and all of the abusive Wikiversity sysops who terrorize the chat channel should have their sysop powers removed. But that's just the opinion of Schmidt the troll. If you call me a troll there is a chance that your talk page comments will also be archived at JWSchmidt is a Troll so that I can add your behavior to my studies of Wikimedia collaboration.

Other subpages
In addition to JWSchmidt is a Troll I have a few other subpages where I archive examples of the civility of Wikiversity sysops. Recently I was told that these archive pages are not acceptable. In the near future I fully expect some abusive sysop to censor the archive pages and/or block me from editing because I created the archive pages. Since the hostile takeover of Wikiversity in 2008 it is accepted that abusive sysops can call me troll or tell me to fuck off. I fully expect the Wikiversity reign of terror to be extended to censorship of my user pages in an effort to prevent me from documenting and discussing the actions of abusive sysops.

Related reading

 * December 2010
 * Abd calls for a block of JWSchmidt
 * Abd calls for a topic ban to be imposed on JWSchmidt

Update 2011
In the past, any Custodian who got in the way of the Ruling Party was subjected to an emergency desysop, implemented in violation of Wikiversity policy. Now, in 2011, when Wikiversity policy was followed for a community discussion of a disruptive sysop, the community discussion was terminated by a rogue sysop and the Wikiversity participant who dared to follow Wikiversity policy was blocked from editing (25 January 2011 Abd blocked Ottava Rima with an expiry time of 1 year). Abd then explained the basic wiki principle that community discussions are a waste of time....the only remaining step is to add that observation to the Main Page so that unsuspecting Wikiversity participants can be informed about how things are done at Wikiversity since the Hostile Takeover of 2008.

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Talk:PLC/Design and implementation

The Design Challenge looks like a very interesting and fun problem. (I used to work in the water treatment industry, building control systems.) It is crying out for drawings showing the process before and after the introduction of the holding tank, though, just to make the description easier to understand. I made some minor modifications to the text to improve readability (and to practice editing wikis, at which I'm new!) I hope I haven't changed the sense of what you intended. I hope the original author is watching this thread, because I'm volunteering: if you send me scanned sketches of how you want the drawings I could CAD them up and post them in a format suitable for Wikiversity. We could then make the text refer to the drawings and the Design Challenge would be totally compelling.

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User:Abduljabbar

My name is Abdul Jabbar Bozdar.

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User:Egm6341.s10.team17.AB

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User talk:Abduljabbar

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User:TahirShabbir

Audience Analysis Ex -1
Cam Kener

Since Cam is a known name in Software Testing/Quality, I was able to search on him with ease.

Known
 * Address - 1600, Seabury, Point Rd, Palmbury, FL - 32907.
 * Goal/Mission - Enhancing the satisfaction and safety of software customers, users, and developers.

J.D. (law degree), Golden Gate University, California 1994. Ph.D. (experimental psychology), McMaster University, Ontario, 1984. B.A. (arts & sciences, primarily math & philosophy), Brock University, Ontario, 1974
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Director, Center for Software Testing Education & Research, Florida Institute of Technology, November 2003 - present. Professor of Software Engineering, Florida Institute of Technology August 2000 – present.
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Unknown
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User:Egm6341.s10.team3.sa/Mtg5

Mtg 5, 12 Jan 10

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Prove that: (i) $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} \int_{a}^{b}w(x)\cdot f(x)dx = f(\xi )\int_{a}^{b}w(x)dx $$  for $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} w(x)\geq 0 $$

(ii) Another version of IMVT : Also prove IMVT for $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} w(x)<0$$ for all $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} x\in [a,b] $$

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We know from IMVT in [[media:Egm6341.s10.mtg2.pdf|Lecture p.2-3]] that,

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with $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} w(x)\geqslant 0 \quad \forall \ x \in [a,b] $$
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Use IMVT to show that (5) in [[media:Egm6341.s10.mtg2.pdf|Lecture p.2-2]] is equal to (1) in [[media:Egm6341.s10.mtg2.pdf|Lecture p.2-3]] i.e,

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= \frac{1}{n!} \frac{(x-x_0)^{n+1}}{(n+1)!}f^{(n+1)}(\xi) $$ for $$ \displaystyle \color{blue} \quad \xi \in [x_0,x]$$
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[[media: Egm6341.s10.mtg5.djvu | Page 5-2]] PROOF OF TAYLOR SERIES This same technique will be used in error analyses such as that of the Trapezoidal rule

Consider the function f(x). It can be written as, $$ \displaystyle f(x) = f(x_0) + \int_{x_0}^{x} f^{(1)}(t) \,dt $$ $$\displaystyle (Eq. 1) $$ Note: $$ \displaystyle f^{(1)}(t) = \frac {df}{dt}$$ Clearly, $$ \displaystyle \int_{x_0}^{x} f^{(1)}(t) \,dt = [f(t)]_{x_0}^{x} $$ $$\displaystyle (Eq. 2) $$

Now consider the integral in Eq.(1) Using integration by parts, $$ \displaystyle \int_{x_0}^{x} f^{(1)}(t) \,dt = \int_{x_0}^{x} \underbrace{1}_{u^\prime} \underbrace{f^{(1)}(t)}_{v}\, dt  = [ uv ]_{x_0}^x - \int_{t=x_0}^{x} uv^\prime\, dt $$ $$ \displaystyle = [{t}{ f^{(1)}}(t)]_{t=x_0}^{t=x} + \underbrace{\int_{x_0}^{x} {t}{f^{(2)}}(t)\, dt}_{\alpha} $$ $$ \displaystyle = x f^{(1)}(x) - {x_0} f^{(1)}(x_0) - \alpha $$

In the Taylor series we have, the term $$ \displaystyle x-{x_0}f^{(1)}(x_0) $$ Since we have the term, $$ \displaystyle {x_0}f^{(1)}(x_0) $$, let us add and subtract $$ \displaystyle {x}f^{(1)}(x_0) $$ to the above equation.

Thus, we have, $$ \displaystyle = x f^{(1)}(x) - {x_0} f^{(1)}(x_0) - \alpha + {x}f^{(1)}(x_0) - {x}f^{(1)}(x_0) $$ Now combining the terms and rearranging, $$ \displaystyle = \underbrace {[x f^{(1)}(x) - {x}f^{(1)}(x_0)]}_{\beta} + (x-x_0) f^{(1)}(x_0) - \alpha $$

On observing carefully, we see that, $$ \displaystyle \beta $$ is nothing but ,$$ \displaystyle \int_{x_0}^{x}x f^{(2)}(t) \,dt $$ .Thus,

$$ \displaystyle  = \int_{x_0}^{x}x f^{(2)}(t) \,dt + (x-x_0) f^{(1)}(x_0) - \alpha $$ $$\displaystyle (Eq. 3) $$

[[media: Egm6341.s10.mtg5.djvu | Page 5-3]] Substituting Eqn(3) in Eqn(1) on Pg 5-2, we have the expression for the Taylor series : $$\displaystyle f(x) = f(x_0) + \frac{(x-x_0)}{1!} f^{(1)}(x_0) + \int_{x_0}^{x} (x-t)f^{(2)}(t)\, dt $$

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$$\displaystyle \color{blue} f(x) = f(x_0) + \frac{(x-x_0)}{1!}\ f^{(1)}(x_0) + \int_{x_0}^{x} (x-t) f^{(2)}(t)\, dt $$ Repeat integration by parts to reveal the following items with remainder $$\displaystyle \color{blue} \frac{(x-x_0)^2}{2!}\ f^{(2)}(x_0) + \frac{(x-x_0)^3}{3!}\ f^{(3)}(x_0) $$ Note: Assume (4)and (5) in [[media:Egm6341.s10.mtg2.pdf|Lecture p.2-2]] are true and do integration by parts one more time

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User talk:Panarchy~enwikiversity

 Hello Panarchy, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may

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 * Chat with other Wikiversitans on #wikiversity-en.

And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage, and see you around Wikiversity! If you're a twitter user, please follow http://twitter.com/Wikiversity. --Adambro 10:37, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Panarchy. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Panarchy~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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User:Jtneill/Books/Open academia

Open academia

 * User:Jtneill/Presentations/Open academia: A philosophy of open practice

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User talk:Dong~enwikiversity

Help with a new initiative?
I have proposed an idea for a new way of creating technical learning content: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Improving_Technical_Topics_At_Wikiversity

Would you be interested in helping with something like this? Once I get a representative from each discipline I have listed, I would like to hold a brainstorming session. Please let me know what you think! Daviddoria 14:01, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Improving Technical Topics At Wikiversity

 * Many good ideas and thoughts there. My concept of Wikiversity is that it is a place where students of a topic, advanced students or relatively knowledgeable amateurs, and subject experts can cooperate to create learning resources. Each bring something of value, and perhaps the most important contribution, in the end, is that of the students, who, after all, are the point of the whole thing! If course material doesn't work for students, does not engage them, it's pretty useless, even if completely "correct." This model is not the traditional setup with experts as professors in full charge of the class, and students can take it or leave it. Rather, it is collaborative, and will work if expertise is respected but cannot dominate (which is really not about expertise itself but about an expert as a human being), and students realize that to create a course that will work for them may sometimes take work on their part, even to build the "classroom," and, of course, they will need to give due respect to expertise. That's the tuition! --Abd 19:02, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Hi David, agreed, lots of good ideas here. Teaching in universities in my experience does tend to be a bit of a one-man or one-woman show and could significantly benefit from a team/multi-disciplinary approach as you suggest. And I very much agree about the potential for collaboratively developed textbooks, as well as usability in design. Modularity I think is also critical on Wikiversity since the vast majority of Wikiversity visitors are not doing a whole course, but rather looking for very specific pieces of learning content. I'd encourage you to consider starting a stand alone page just on the topic of your posting - either in the main space or a user sub-page - your material and this talk thread could be copied or moved there. You also might be interested in a conference presentation I gave yesterday: User:Jtneill/Presentations/Open academia: A philosophy of open practice. I look forward to learning more about your ideas. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 00:11, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Great! I'm glad to see some interest/agreement. I can't claim this idea as my own - Professor Woodie Flowers gave the keynote talk at a recent ASEE Northeast conference that I attended. I've been trying to get him on board with helping to implement his idea but he's a busy man!

 * Jtneill - I read your presentation. I whole heartedly agree with all the points there. I actually see it being very easy to convince the mainstream school systems to use free "text books" that we produce, particularly given budget restrictions that are a constant headache for administrators. This is very different than the typical open source software idea. No matter how hard people work on Open Office, the fact of the matter is that Microsoft Office is used by millions of people, and to maintain compatibility and uniformity companies won't even consider switching to anything else, despite financial savings. In text books, however, it seems to me that school are not employing any kind of consistent text books, so nothing is lost by any individual school switching books. In fact, there is much to be gained by everyone switching to the SAME book (our free ones!)!

 * The only thing holding this back is quality. The quality must (of course) be reasonable and I think that this multidisciplinary approach is a good way to improve it.

Daviddoria 01:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

A brainstorming session can start at any time, no need to wait. Anyone that wants to join in on the brainstorming can. -- dark lama  14:31, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

Abd writes: "it is collaborative, and will work if expertise is respected but cannot dominate" This is very true (of course), but it is only part of the wiki power, which I think is what we are indirectly talking about. I think the most important fact about Wikis is that they build their own information, irrespective of collaboration on a single project. This is because the entire wiki project is collaborative in ways unimaginable prior to the Wiki's evolution -- Wiki has become an entity unto itself. Wiki knowledge will change the World

Rather than focus on attempts to create an improved online campus, my advice is to simply "go with the Wiki flow." Deconstruct existing writing into sparse structures of topic headings followed by explanations followed by bullets of subsidiary material, each having more explanations and links to citations or expansive resources.

This technique creates layers up layers of information nested into a single phenomena, which is the definition of Science, and also eliminates licensing headaches. The material becomes available to be re-constructed into prose by anyone--it is valid wiki information in this sparse format, and makes for exceedingly easy to reading and high rates of absorption!

Or if you have the structure in your mind already, simply "core dump" it onto a page and then fill in the details as they occur to you, which will come quickly. One should always hope for collaboration, but my experience has been that WV information tends to be solo-writing, and one should feel confident in wide-scale wiki collaboration because material will flow if it has value.

On technical topics

My feeling is that technology research and dissemination is the obvious best use for the WV, but it is not happening to any satisfying degree. Part of the problem is that the double-hit of the tech market crash and the bombing of Lower Manhattan in the early 2000s killed the best run the Information Society ever had. No significant information breakthrough has emerged since, and, generally speaking, the star economies have been thrown on the floor.

My question is how can we reverse this process making the WV an important entity (making it immune to whatever ails it at the moment).

I throw out these suggestions:
 * Become the information source for Wiki technology, which is effectively the mediawiki
 * Become a critic of Wiki technology so as to help lead the development process
 * Make a place for a public domain implementation of the L4, the advanced OS that was conceived before the tech crash, but has been beleaguered since, and is apparently dying on the vine

In light of recent issues that we all have to be aware of by now, I think we should start thinking about alternate funding. If we become financially independent, we might even think about forking, an idea that has been in my mind for a long time. This would allow us to evolve the wiki mark-up language into a genuine extension of HTML, and perhaps a great tech writing tool for writers of all ages, especially starting with middle schoolers. I have found from experience that CSS can actually function as a mark-up language itself. We might want to (finally) initiate the HTML programming language for which JavaScript has been a long-term substitute. It remember it being originally titled "Umm" at a meeting in downtown NYC, but as I mentioned, we basically got blow away on two fronts, never to recover either financially or fully from grief of loss-of-life.

--JohnBessatalk 15:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


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