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Spaces
Should a "School of X" be in the Wikiversity namespace (e.g. School of Engineering) or should it be called School of Engineering on its own? Or simply Engineering? --Fang Aili talk 17:26, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Good question. Can you come to the chat? We're all here talking if you want to join us. -- sebmol ? 17:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Can't right now, sorry. --Fang Aili talk 17:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Other languages
The other languages link to de: links to de:Wikipedia. Is there a way to fix this? --Fang Aili 15:35, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * It's being worked on. It depends on Brion's schedule since this requires a direct change in the database. -- sebmol ? 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

no www.wikiversity.org yet
FYI: There's no http://www.wikiversity.org yet... Katpatuka11:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I think Brion or other technical developers will need to fix this, the page has been a domain name placeholder for at least a year so it predates our database wiki. He may be waiting for a preliminary logo. I suggest we request an immediate fix using the mortar board logo in the center with various languages around it as in the www.wikipedia.org portal. It seems good enough while we wait for logo designers to show and have a competition. Mirwin 03:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Page organization
I re-organized the layout of the main page. Done now.

To do (and "done" by various editors): Doug 18:52, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * edit the browse box (indent text -- remove rule line?)
 * Done - changed "open-content" to "free-content". decide on whether to use "free-content" or "open-content" in several places on page
 * Done - revise the links section (into 2 columns?).
 * Done - "department" changed to "subject". while "department" is used on wikibooks in the same manner as on main page, is this the correct term? (department usually means something more specific like physics or anthropology) would "study areas" be better?

PS. In the "Help develop Wikiversity!" box, an invitation could be made to edit the main page as in:
 * Help with Main Page/Design

A "stable" version of this page could be uploaded regularly. Or, along lines (less ponderously so) of the en.Wikipedia main page revision this Spring, perhaps revisions could be consensed/voted on by admins and/or all users. Doug 19:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Good idea. It is after all the first page people see so it should always be in a presentable condition. I've moved the design page to Main Page/Design since it doesn't really belong into the main namespace. -- sebmol ? 16:09, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Bad idea. It hampers non administrative editors.  Trash or vandalism on the main page will not damage a learning institution more than letting an initial unofficial clique get in the habit off controlling site activities.   Consider a brick in mortar.   When someone spray paints or taggs the administrative centers walls or a Department Head's car is all work and study at the institution immediately suspended and control handed over to the janitors or one Dept Head?  It is theoretically possible to define a human expert in encyclopedias, dictionaries, or publishing formats and procedures.  It is self evidently impossible to find or create an expert in all fields of human learning. Mirwin 02:41, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

 * The intent of the design page is to include everyone's input. A process for somehow regularly loading revisions doesn't exclude any input. The design page is a good idea for when it becomes necessary to protect the main page because of increasing traffic, just is done on Wikipedia now. This is a probability. I also feel it is a good idea to implement a design page for all edits soon because it allows people with page layout experience to clean up gently the page layout impact of substantial content edits (which often can mess up the graphical aspects of page layout) before going to the main page (and not even having the final say -- just a clean up that can be revised until page reaches a lull/stability for a day or two) -- without subtracting content or removing emphasis. Perhaps an example of this in practice for a limited time frame would demonstrate the benefits -- then the community could choose. Such a process would be a boon to the community and project - by keeping the design page attractive and user friendly. If people want to play with alternate page layouts, that is great and can be done better done on alternate design subpages where compromises and choices can be worked out. The wiki free form process on the main design page would be there -- supplemented by some planning subpages for more focused discussion of examples. Doug 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I have a problem with calling one of the schools "Professions". Professions can be found in all the other schools!! Also, I feel that Education should be one of the major Schools.--Ningbojoe 06:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I thought the same thing about "professions" when I was editing some of content of that subsection. A more appropriate label for that category will surely pop up sometime. :) Education could be one of the Schools. So could others. I expect the list may grow longer... :) Doug 01:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Main page mission statement

 * Create and host open-content, multimedia learning materials and resources, for all age groups in all languages

Isn't this the mission statement for Wikibooks? Is there a link to the resolution from the board? - Amgine 22:11, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, here: Wikimedia Foundation approval of the project
 * The statement you quote reflects part of the mission of Wikiversity. Another major part of the mission is to create learning communities. As I understand it, Wikiversity projects can be partly based on Wikibooks in the same way that Wikibooks are sometimes partly based on Wikipedia articles. However, Wikiversity can be much more than a collection of curricula; it can be a network of learning communities, a creative university/multiversity without walls. --Doug 00:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

 * No. The effective mission of the Wikibooks project is to create textbooks.  A lot of other material people have typed in is routinely archived and deleted or perhaps merely deleted.  I am curious Amgine.  Do you intend to participate here at Wikiversity or do you view yourself as an interested Wikimedia Foundation member playing hall monitor to make sure we conform strictly to the letter of the approved proposal?  Are you a regular at Wikibooks concerned that we may host ebooks and other online materials that Wikibooks declines to host as outside their narror definition of what someone may use as a textbook or learning reference manual?  Mirwin 02:52, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Due to a wayward idiot, this page (the main page, not the talk page) is now being semi-protected against edits by anonymous users. I would imagine after a couple of weeks when this pages gets settled down that there will be no major reason to continue to edit this page, and it will turn to sysop-only edit protection.

If there are problems that you experience with editing the main page, please drop a line here and let us know what you want to see changed. --Robert Horning 04:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Move
Uh, why move this page? It's the *Main Page* :-) Cormaggio 16:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I moved it to keep the purposes of the namespaces clear. If the main namespace is meant for learning and research materials, Main Page doesn't really fit into it. -- sebmol ? 16:33, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I think it is only by historical tradition that wiki main pages are in the main namespace. The idea of having an introductory main page came before the idea of having a project namespace to hold the meta-pages about the project. I support having the main page be in a "meta namespace" such as the wikiversity namespace. Technically, I wonder if the main page should be thought of as a portal. --JWSchmidt 16:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

 * By having Main Page as a redirect, we are automatically making practically everyone entering the project coming into a redirect. I just don't think that's good design. Yes, the main page is many things - a portal, a meta page - but, most importantly, it is an introduction to the project. Why immediately scupper the design of the page by keeping to a strict plan of what a particular namespace is? *No* other project has a redirect from Main Page - and I don't think it's purely an historical thing either. Cormaggio 17:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * What redirect? It's fixed. ;-) -- sebmol ? 17:20, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I mean, that you see underneath the page title: "Redirected from Main Page" - I just don't think it looks good. Cormaggio 17:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You shouldn't see that anymore. Try entering just the URL or click on the image on the left. It should go straight to Wikiversity:Main Page without redirect. -- sebmol ? 17:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, so it is :-) Cormaggio 17:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * So it's ok? -- sebmol ? 17:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * That redirect sign is back, by the way - not sure if it's something to do with the vandalism.. Cormaggio 07:39, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Maybe the "redirect sign" is seen if you came from Main Page to Main Page. --JWSchmidt 09:10, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * What I mean by the redirect sign is simply the words "redirected from Main Page", which I get when I type http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Main_Page into a browser (or follow that link, which I've bookmarked). I wonder how it is for people coming in on a link from any of our sister projects..? Cormaggio 09:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * If they come through http://en.wikiversity.org/ they won't see a Redirect. If on a sister project the link is made like this:, they will also not see the redirect. I would suggest you adjust your browser so that it links to http://en.wikiversity.org/ with nothing after the slash. -- sebmol ? 09:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, will do. Back to dissertation-land for me :-) Cormaggio 09:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Languages without content
...include Esperanto, Netherlands, and Japanese. Should they be taken off the main page? I don't see any use for them over any other languages that have no content. 219.255.192.201 19:02, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Link to DE
Can you change the link to DE from Deutsch to Deutsch?

I think the second way looks better.

-- MichaelFrey 17:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I fixed all of the links from external to internal links. I agree, they look better that way.  I think I messed up the Japanese link, so if anybody knows where in ja.wikibooks the Japanese Wikiversity pages are, it would be appreciated.  --Robert Horning 06:12, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks :-) -- MichaelFrey 18:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcoming Committee
Do we have a welcoming committee here yet? If not, how should one be started? (Or, alternately, would it be appropriate to start one?) --Qwerty 00:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Please start welcoming committee. There is this: --JWSchmidt 21:45, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Welcome page
I've just created Welcome, newcomers and i suggest it be linked to in the Main Page title, just as the other projects are. Can an admin please do this? - Trevor MacInnis 22:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. --JWSchmidt 22:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

What is up with this skin?
What's up with the rounded edges of this skin? It totally does not fit in with any of the other English Wikimedia projects. It looks plain ridiculous, especially since the rounded edges are not anti-aliased. I believe that it should be changed back to normal. 85.147.58.212 21:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Each Wikimedia project determines its look separately. If you do not like the rounded edges, you are free to register and adjust your Monobook.css. -- sebmol ? 21:44, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ah, so you're the admin who made the change, I see. So instead of actually taking the time to discuss this change with me, you simply say "shut up and make your own exclusive override if you want to". This is terrible! You just made this change because you like it, and you don't seem to care about the fact that square edges have become the standard across almost all Wikimedia projects. What is your reason to do this? What do rounded corners add, besides your personal opinion of design? I am a graphic designer and I cannot fathom what rounded corners could possibly add. All they do is show how utterly clueless browsers are at rendering rounded corners. It's all jaggy and aliased, and there are even a few "gaps" in there. Anyway, if you really like this change, then it's okay to add it as you're legally entitled to do so (as admin) but please at least have the decency to discuss it rather than just telling people to go make their own override. 85.147.58.212 21:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I do have the decency to discuss it. But if you're already making the point that it looks "plain ridiculous", what's the point of dicussion? You have not made any contributions to this project yet you feel the need to call something that meets the consensus of the project ridiculous. If you expect AGF, you have to start by asking, not judging. -- sebmol ? 21:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * P.S. Rounded corners do exist in Wikimedia projects, Wikiversity is certainly not the only one. It's also been around for a few days without anybody complaining. Rather the opposite. -- sebmol ? 21:53, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I just gave you plenty of reasons if you'll read my previous message.
 * Jaggy edges
 * Bad browser support
 * Not the standard (consistency is important for Mediawiki as a whole)
 * Not the way the Monobook skin was meant to look
 * I have not contributed to this project yet (I did vote for it to be started, though) but I believe that there is no problem with me pointing out what I believe to be a problem of this site. In a way, that is contributing as well. Also, you tell me one single other English Wikimedia project that also has rounded edges. There are none. This was my point. I realize there are non-English Wikimedia projects that do. I also cannot see how this decision can prevail in the long run, seen as how the other Wikimedia projects are much larger than this one, and any attempt to add rounded corners there would immediately be rejected via the Snowball clause. 85.147.58.212 21:58, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * you are right, they are ugly. Still, that's not the end of the world, or even this project. If this is going to fly, there will be more than enough people to talk it over anyway, at length (and as soon as there are, the round corners will go out the window of course), and if it isn't, nobody will care about it anyway. 83.78.187.95 22:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't even know what these rounded corners are - I've never seen any difference between all other WMF projects. What skin are you talking about? But please, whoever you are, don't get discouraged from discussing changes - for general issues, please bring them up on the Colloquium. Thanks. Cormaggio 12:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Cormaggio, view the wiki in a Mozilla-based browser like Firefox. You'll see that the global CSS has been edited to force tab and box corners to be rounded, among other things. robchurch | talk 12:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

If you don't like the rounded corners
You can have the default square ones instead by adding the following lines to your monobook.css: .pBody { -moz-border-radius-topright:0em; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:0em; }
 * 1) p-cactions ul li, #p-cactions ul li a { -moz-border-radius-topleft:0em; -moz-border-radius-topright:0em; }
 * 2) content { -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:0em; }

– Gurch 10:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

BTW, Internet Explorer ignores "-moz-" declarations anyway because they are Mozilla experimental stuff. That's why they start with "-moz-". I don't use IE myself and don't mind a bit of Mozilla activism. Just FYI, :-) Rogerhc 19:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Move main page content to subpages?
I think there is too much information on the front page: 4 screen fulls.

I reorganized some of the content on the main page. We could reduce content by putting the "Services" section (which is too long for front page) and moving the "Background and Proposals" section to separate pages. Then, we can put links on the front page to those. This would get down to about 3 screen fulls. Reswik 01:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I made the edits suggested here and created the 2 new subpages. I think this improves the front page. With editing work, I think the presentation of the information on the subpages will much improve. Reswik 03:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I think the morphing and move of the "Background and Proposals" main page sub-section into a new History of Wikiversity page (linked on main page) has some potential for generating insight and involvement. It only needs a good intro and a story line. Reswik 04:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

New page layout?
This looks better: User:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage, hit it on a random page--134.48.245.4 21:41, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Not sure. I think some of the elements of this revised page are interesting but the bold orange colors and rounded graphics don't appeal to my eye. Reswik 01:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I've changes to more muted colors, is that any better? - Trevor MacInnis 15:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * This looks better. I like some of the ways you have rearranged things. Other things probably could be adjusted. Some suggestions -->

Suggestions for your draft page:
 * Move the sister projects back down to horizontal bar at bottom.
 * Replace the round corners with square ones
 * Drop the entire services section and just have a link -- too much content
 * Put Other areas above Library and rename Other areas to something like "Communications and Community"
 * Try a version without the little icons in the middle column. not sure abou those.

This is good work. I wonder what others think. Thanks, Reswik 15:54, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Ps. I was thinking today that it would be interesting to turn the main page text blocks into templates. Then we might be able to design different skins, fitting in the templates (with a few template alternates perhaps) as needed. Then, the skins can be options for viewing the current template content. What do you think? Heck, folks could design their own skins and portals -- many of them. We could vote on what skin to be default at any one time. Reswik 23:55, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I've implemented your comments, and the text block skin is basically what I'm doing with the page (see:Template:TrevorMainPageBox). - Trevor MacInnis 03:18, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I did not like it at first. It was a bit garish to my eye and I could not easily find stuff I was previously using.  I noticed that after I systematically located the old links I was depending on knowing where they were then the whole thing settled in nicely.  The old one looks drab now! lol  Nice work!  Mirwin 06:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I think this is a very nice design. Let's implement the text block templates so we can have option to use more than one skin -- if no one objects -- guess we can go back if they do.  With more tweaking and polish, I think the very plain current design and your colorful and creative design can both improve further. However, I think we could upload your design now without a vote, if no one objects. I think I'll mention that as a 24 hour thing for feedback. OK? Reswik 18:06, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Ooops, I think the other language versions of Wikiversity were left out of your design (unless I missed them). But, those are easy enough to add. I'm doing so at bottom of your design page. Below, I made a new post to call for approval to upload your design soon. Reswik 18:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * A non-table Layout: click here

Motto?
Are we going to create an equivalent of the catchy-but-cheesy-yet-perhaps-useful slogan that they have in Wikipedia? Yes, I am talking about a “Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit” kind of thing. An obvious advantage of something like that is to remove some of the pressure already placed on defying the mission of wikiversity. Maybe a combination of a good graphic logo, a banner along the lines of “the free encyclopedia”, and a promotional slogan just like “that anyone can edit” could help in clarifying what this thing is all about. After all, many universities out there have silly Latin mottos and they even put them on t-shirts. Perhaps we should include banner proposals in the logo contest. What do you think?Aldenis 23:56, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Refine Wikiversity mission <--> Develop slogan/motto. We are working on the first step of this here -- the idea is first to refine our mission statement, from which and on the basis of which then we will all together try various slogans/mottos:  Wikiversity mission.  But, perhaps this is to complex. Refining  might be something we can do in tandem (hence the double arrow above <-->) -- perhaps by writing up a bunch of very short mission statements and then both translating those into slogans and refining mission through insights. Whatever works! Feel free to dive in there to try that... I was thinking of inviting people to lob short missions/slogans onto that page. Reswik 00:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

A suggestion for Wikiversity motto "Opening minds through open learning". Mos87

 * Howabout: "Reasonably free thinking, freely pursued." or "Free thinkers learn free." or "Pursue free thinking freely." or we could request Wikibooks find a new and use theirs: "Learn free, think free." or to further confuse the ongoing "but what is Wikiversity exactly" issue we could go with: "Think freely, but learn free."  or howabout:  "Free wiki mentors, learn freely."  Mirwin 07:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, the revise the mission page is not working so far -- so perhaps we need a motto contest page, as suggested in the post below. Reswik 13:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Motto and slogan contest
Please list your suggestions for mottos and slogans here: Motto and slogan contest.

The short motto will go with our logo (yet to be chosen) for listing on wikimedia sister projects. The slogan or descriptive phrase will go on the top of our main page with "Welcome to Wikiversity."

A simple contest process is suggested:
 * list as many mottos and slogans as you wish
 * add *one* vote for one motto and one slogan
 * feel free to change vote and add mottos at any time.
 * winners are the motto and the slogan with strong majority of votes. (there may need to be a run off if a strong majority is not achieved).
 * voting ends in 15 days: 5:00 pm GMT September 7, 2006.

We may use ideas from the motto and slogan contest to help refine the Wikiversity mission. Feel free to post mission statement revisions there too. --Reswik 13:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

What's the aim of Wikiversity?
I don't understand, what is the difference between Wikiversity and Wikibooks? Under Wikiversity/Modified project proposal I learn, that it is about learning about a topic (Wikiversity) and reading about a topic (Wikibooks). But this "difference" seems a bit made-up to me. Wikibooks at the moment features the book Movie Making Manual. A how-to on movie making. What would be the difference to a course "film making" or "movie making" on Wikiversity? Okay, I see that a Wikiversity maybe would have a slightly other focus on some aspects, but is it useful to create two independant projects? I can't think, that this was not a topic already before, so please point me to the discussion (but if it is a typical endless wiki discussion, I would be happy if you could give an outline of the main arguments, that were crucial to the decide). --84.143.6.71 19:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Just take some time here and relax for a moment. Yes, this was a major criticism to the proposal, although if you look at b:Wikibooks:Votes for deletion/Wikiversity you will see at least some of the justifications to delete Wikiversity in the first place, and also see some replies and rebuttals at Wikiversity/Vote/en.  This is certainly an issue that has been rehashed multiple times and deserves FAQ level answers.  --Robert Horning 23:34, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Compare What is Wikibooks to Wikiversity project proposal. The content of Wikibooks is textbooks. The content of Wikiversity does not include textbooks. --JWSchmidt 03:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It is of course possible to fork an FDL book and add features that the Wikibook's project has decided it will not allow authors to use.  For example, extensive links within text materials.  They  have decided they wish to be closer to formal textbooks easy to make print ready than online sets of notes.  Extensive problem sets or quizzes.  In line clickable animation or audio or analysis programs or other electronic extenstions available to a properly equipped computer via data on same CD or the internet.  An example would be an enginneering text with clickable access to stress/thermal analysis finite element packages or other numerical methods.  Mirwin 02:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

MIT has a program known as OCW(Open Course Ware) which provides course materials online for nearly all of the courses currently offered at MIT and for a select few courses even includes video lectures. I was wondering if anyone was aware of whether or not it would be possible to integrate these already available resources into the Wikiversity project? I feel that it would be a waste of time, that could be better spent on improving and supplementing these resources, to recreate them. Mos87

 * It is unfortunate but MIT's OCW program is under a special MIT license that is incompatible with the GNU FDL we are using. MIT is giving away the free use of the material via the Internet.  It is not allowing others to download and modify the materials as they see fit.  We can however use the materials at MIT for research and then include any distilled understanding of the subject gained here at Wikiverisity as long as the user is careful to use his own wording, examples, creativity to express the understanding gained at MIT's web site. Mirwin 06:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Why cannot Wikiversity give a certificate or start a certificate or diploma program on its own? The students can view the content, read it, download books, after that the exams should be conducted. That is what I feel Rich_richie

New banner graphic
There are 4 white guys (yes?) in the banner at the top of the main page:. That won't do. Please fix. --Doug 03:52, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes. And one of them is holding a big stick and pointing his finger :-) Thanks for raising this, Doug. Cormaggio 10:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think it's a quill, rather than a stick - but I still advocate a better image for the main page - something more along the lines of "learning together". Cormaggio 11:22, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Maybe a simple stylized image of a galaxy would work -- this being in part a metaphor for many bright lights shining and living together and also a metaphor for exploring the universe? Until a banner more representative and less male and euro-centric (which only fits maybe 10% of the global population) is created, is a banner needed? Is one needed at all? Also, I question the use of a graduation hat as the WV logo if the statement of what WV is not includes not granting degrees. Perhaps a galaxy could be a logo option for WV. Doug 13:24, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, the logo is wrong - I just put something there as a placeholder (to replace Wikipedia's logo, which was there originally), with the full intention of opening a logo contest to decide our real identity :-). There have already been a few suggestions - so maybe we should get going on it soon - I know my girlfriend is keen to have a go. As for the banner image, no, we don't need one - though images are useful - I'll pooch around for something better.. Cormaggio 16:14, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yah, some graphic or photo would be nice up top. What you have now is better. It might be hard to find a banner that makes everyone happy by various criteria. A pluralistic option: Perhaps we could rotate (even automate the rotation) of the top graphic amongst a dozen or two dozen photos (or more) of people from different cultures in schooling/learning/research contexts -- one could have a blurb about the inclusive nature of wikiversity and reaching out to many contexts -- off and online. A logo contest soon sounds good. Doug 16:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Interesting. How do we know they are "white"?  My impression was Spanish from about the 1600s.  Conquistadors learning how to get to the "New World".  By all means pick something politically correct for China and North Korea.   Maybe a CD or IC under the arm of a scholar escaping from Alexandria burning?  Maybe the scholar could be plugging a light fiber into the internet?  Mirwin 02:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Perhaps someone knows the identities of the persons in the orginal picture but I couldn't be sure -- that is why I wrote "yes?" with a question mark above. We can't be sure they are all guys either -- another reason I wrote "yes?". But, something that looks like it could be 4 white people who happen to be all guys (yes? no?) sends the wrong message. I hope we have a community process to develop and pick a graphic. Doug 01:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

I'll have to say that this is something that needs to be fixed again, as the current image is something that is for a classroom in South Africa and it doesn't make it all that clear. Of course, we could do a "rotating" image that would have something from different regions of the world that would rotate in and out depending on the day of the week. That might show a little more diversity anyway. Kinda like the "pic of the day" images. --Robert Horning 04:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I see this as early ranging fire lacking proven ballistic analog computers. A few more attempts and we should start tweaking newcomer's interests .... say that could me in that picture! Mirwin 06:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Logo
Lose the "Beta" from the logo. Wiki-based projects are by definition never finished, so "beta" labels are unnecessary. (We might as well label all the projects "beta" if they were). Also, I'm sure there must be a better colour than bright blue to use for the name. Black, or Wikimedia grey, perhaps? – Gurch 10:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The board decided, that this project is in beta mode for 6 months so we can't really just get rid of it. The logo is indeed not the best one I've ever seen; we're planning on having a logo competition soon however. -- sebmol ? 11:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Can someone please organise this logo contest? Meta Logo is probably the best place. Thanks. (FWIW, I agree that the current logo is bad - for more reasons than just the colours.) Oh, and yes, the "beta" should be there for the beginning, as it was for Wikinews in its beta phase. Also agreed that the same could still be done for Wikipedia ;-) Cormaggio 12:00, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I've changed the logo (with a bit of help) - though this should not stop us from making a new one. Please continue... Cormaggio 12:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Those colours are definitely better – thanks Cormaggio. A logo design discussion is now underway at Wikiversity/logo, submit any ideas there – Gurch 12:26, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Portal Addition
I created a Fine Arts portal, and since the schools'll have (at the very least shells) functioning pages as soon as I get my 4 hours of sleep, I was wondering if someone with the access wouldn't mind putting the portal up amongst the other schools on the main page. +Bozaloshtsh 08:38, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * done - Trevor MacInnis 16:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. +Bozaloshtsh 16:19, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

ERROR on front page
I registered for an account but cannot edit the front page. There is an error in the link to subscribe to the wikiversity mailing list. The URL should be: http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiversity-l

p.s. I created the first draft of the Wikiversity front page like two years ago. I had to quit working on it while I finished my phd, but I'm glad this project finally got approved and I hope to contribute to it. DouglasHolton 16:44, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I fixed it. Thanks for the hint. I'm looking forward to your contributions. -- sebmol ? 18:29, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Unlock the Main page
Greetings all! I think we need to make the Main page more immediately visually accessible - in other words, what Wikiversity is and what you can do there. I'm not such a whizz at Mediawiki design, so I'd appreciate any help in making a better page layout. I can then help with adding and creating links.. Cormaggio 12:30, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Main page (lowercase p) should be the name of Wikiversity's Main page. --Rogerhc 19:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Wikiversity page naming conventions suggest Main page, not Main Page. Someone with admin status please make page lowercase.
 * 2) Wikiversity's front door belongs at the front -- in the main namespace -- not burried in the Wikiversity: namespace. Someone with admin status please make it so.

Is it really necessary to protect the main page in its first few days of existence? --Fang Aili talk 17:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I just undid it, but it should probably be redone tonight whenever the last admin goes to bed. Right now there are plenty around to take care of any vandalism that may happen. -- sebmol ? 17:23, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. --Fang Aili talk 17:24, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Main Page/Design could be used for edits. This idea is discussed in Page organization subsection below. Doug 19:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Unlock the Main Page please. Alternatively, please give me admin power so that I can edit it. Thanks. --Rogerhc 00:50, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with it? The main page is open for editing by all users, but the pieces are templated in from other locations.--Rayc 00:57, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for pointing this out; I hadn't thought of that. I am satisfied to edit the relevant template and can find it. I'd like to move some pages so that their titles follow the lowercase second and subsequent words, except proper nouns naming convention and update links to them in the template. If the templates are not locked I will do so another day. Ran out of time today. Thanks! :-) Rogerhc 06:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Why do you want to do that? -- sebmol ? 08:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * See Wikiversity_talk:Naming_conventions for why. :-) Rogerhc 18:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I don't agree with that reasoning. Personally, I prefer title case because it's what people are used to when reading titles. That may not be a very strong argument but neither are the ones for lower case that I've seen at that page. Anyway, I'm also not a fan of someone writing a rule that differs from convention and subsequently referring to it as the basis for changing things. Nor do I find it particularly appealing to run around policing page titles and section headings. -- sebmol ? 21:37, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't see why it has a title at all. The main page at wikipedia is a special page that doesn't even have a title.--Rayc 23:15, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, it does but it's hidden through some clever scripting. Is that done at any other Wikimedia project besides en-WP? -- sebmol ? 07:33, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Images on Main page
Can we protect the image that is on the main page as well? --HappyCamper 17:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Image:Discoveryclassroom.jpg -- I like this woman and girl at a computer image on the Main page. Thanks for putting it up! Very nice. --Rogerhc 05:05, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Image:Missione_del_Guaricano-bimbi_a_scuola.jpg -- This one is great, too. Nice work. --Rogerhc 23:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I've changed some other ones (ie Image:ScienceOlympiad.jpg and Image:Learning bongos.jpg), mainly because I felt that the ones that I replaced (Image:Computer lab showing desktop PCs warwick.jpg and Image:Internetcafe.png) didn't reflect learning of any kind. I'd also prefer to find a 'better' lecturer than the founder of IKEA for Friday's image, but maybe that's just my non-business personality talking... Cormaggio 10:40, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Should we have images that "reflect learning of any kind" on the main page of Wikiversity? Wikiversity is about using computer-based technology to support learning. An image showing people using comuters makes me think of online learning by Wikiversity participants. I have been trying to keep a record of past and current main page images. --JWSchmidt 12:56, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The images I replaced were of 1) an empty room of computers (ie no people, no learning), and 2) an image of an internet cafe (where the content on the computers looked a bit more like gaming than learning). Now, obviously, gaming can include learning and vice versa, and people can learn (formally and informally) whilst in internet cafes, but I just didn't (personally) feel that it was a good image for someone to see, in an image, what Wikiversity was about. Maybe a better image from an internet cafe might be better? But, anyway, thanks for keeping that list - that's useful. Cormaggio 20:51, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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Show my colors. - Athrash   Talk  04:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

re: School of Theology
Hi... I have no idea what you're trying to say there :/. --SB_Johnny | talk 16:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
 * You made a mistake on Wikibooks and only you can correct it since you are administrator on both sites. You created this page which leads nowhere. This action lost the discussion page on the original allowing a user here on page Talk:Christianity/Gospel_101 to make negative comments not knowing what had already been said. -  Athrash   Talk  03:39, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
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Concurrency and real-time programming

Concurrency and Real-Time Programming can be defined as the programming discipline dealing with real-time critical software development. At first glance Real-time programming is often associated with the need for efficient computing power and throughput performance. Actually, the main issue for real-time programming is how to design programs that are able to compute and respond according to certain quality attributes (maximum response time, average response time, quality of calculation, precision of calculation, within a certain time frame) in a predictable manner.

In Real-Time Programming there is usually a need to respond to multiple requests in parallel, and with different Real-Time Constraints. The software may have to support a fast time cyclic and demanding control loop, while simultaneously having to respond to asynchronous inputs from the user. To solve programming problems with multiple control loops and simultaneous requests, different Concurrency Programming techniques have been applied.

Programming environments and languages supporting Concurrency Programming are, to mention a few: Ada, RHAPSODY UML with C++, ERLANG, Concurrent C++, C with proper operating system support.

As time criticalness is often a concern, the following languages often disqualify themselves because of unpredictable demanding garbage collection activities: Java, C#.

The following programming languages are normally not suitable for demanding real-time control due to their single-thread processing limitations: Basic, Lisp, Prologue,

But there have been developments in Java which support Real Time programming to some extent. Two reference implementations have been created one is provided by TimeSys and other by Sun Microsystems. They have introduced some new advanced concepts like ImmortalMemory, ScopedMemory, NoHeapRealTimeThreads etc, whose interaction with heap can be controlled or at the best disallowed thereby insulating them from the Garbage Collector and hence establishing themselves as promising potential constructs for efficient real time programming.

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Secondary research is also known as bench research.

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Harmony

Harmony is the simultaneous sounding of multiple pitches. Harmony constitutes one of the most important elements of Western Music. Having a thorough knowledge and a firm understanding of Harmony is of the utmost importance to Composers, Performers, Theorists, and Musicologists. The study of harmony focuses on how different relationships or combinations of notes can be manipulated over time. Traditionally, in Western Music, harmony was used to create music which moved from dissonant (jarring or unstable) to consonant (pleasant or stable). This can and usually applies to music on a large scale formal level and the chord to chord phrase level. Although the decision which sounds are characterized as consonant or dissonant have varied from age to age, and from place to place, this form of tension and release was the basis of most Western Musical composition, which is still largely the norm today.

This course assumes a basic knowledge of music fundamentals.

Topics

 * 1) Some Basic Concepts: The Major Scale, & Intervals
 * 2) The Minor Scale and Modes
 * 3) /Triads & Seventh Chords/
 * 4) Harmonic Language, Function, and Progression
 * 5) /Chord Inversions/
 * 6) /Cadences & Phrases/
 * 7) /Suspensions/
 * 8) /Sequences & Other Devices/
 * 9) /Harmonizing Melodies & Non-Chord Tones/
 * 10) Introduction to Voice-leading
 * 11) Introduction to Counterpoint
 * 12) /Modulation/
 * 13) /Chromatic Chords/
 * 14) /Extended Chords/
 * 15) /Chords by Seconds & Chords by Fourths/
 * 16) /Chords extended beyond the 13th/
 * 17) Introduction to Harmonic Progressions, Functions, & Substitutions in Jazz
 * 18) Planning, Organum, Isomelody, & Isorhythm
 * 19) /Survey of Post Tonal Music/
 * 20) Introduction to Serialism
 * 21) Introduction To 20th Century Styles
 * 22) /History of Western Harmony/

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Hi I'm Matt, a post-graduate student in Composition at GSMD. To get in touch, please leave a message on my talk page, or you can email me via my website mattkaner.com.

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Talk:Musical instruments/Keyboard instruments

this is so bad... the piano is used in nearly all forms of western music?!
 * Well, go ahead and fix it! Its a wiki :) --Draicone (talk) 05:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

School
Is School:Music going to bring this article up to scratch? It is an excellent candidate for Featured if it can be brought up to speed and rewritten a little. --Draicone (talk) 05:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


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Hello! My name is Yaser Salim Al-Nabriss, I am a Palestinian paramedical student at Al-Azhar University-Gaza(Faculty of Applied Medical seinces, I am intersited in Hematology, and Molecular Biology, I wish to enjoy you site.

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Woodworking

Welcome to the Wood Workshop of the Division of Craft Arts (part of the School of Fine Arts) at Wikiversity. The workshop is just starting up, and we welcome all contributions. We need to work on ideas for a syllabus, textbook (over at wikibooks), and ancillary materials such as worksheets and exams. Also, standard layouts etc. for technical drawings for the Workshop.

Projects
Discrete, well-documented projects that the student can undertake on his or her own. The time that each of these takes varies. All instructions and commentary specific to the project are given; general woodworking skills are omitted because they will be found in the textbook.

 * Workshop notebook: Start recording your woodwork practice in a workshop notebook or visual diary, to see where you've come from and keep your ideas safe for future use.

 * Cutting board: The simplest of all woodworking projects: a single piece of wood on which to cut bread, etc. However, this project aims to teach flattening, truing, and basic finishing techniques.

Lesson Plans
Generally variations on projects (above), with specific guidelines on breaking the work up into hour- or day-long components. Aimed at classroom situations.

 * Yet to be written.: If you have any ideas, please add them here!

Exams
The idea of a woodwork exam may seem peculiar, but in many high schools and technical colleges they were a integral part of the manual arts syllabus. The idea with including exams in Wikiversity is to give the students something by which they can measure their skill -- can they cut a mortice and tennon (by hand) in a table's leg and stretcher in the given hour? A key aspect of these exams is the time limitation; although one can be a marvellously competent woodworker and do one's work very slowly, often the mark of experience and skill is to complete a task to a high quality in a short period of time.

 * Yet to be written.: If you have any ideas, please add them here!

Research Projects
There are so very many ways of working with wood, and woodworkers of every sort are continually finding new ones. This is the place to document these: to research any aspect of woodworking, either new or just new to yourself, and share with others what you find. Read the Introduction to research, familiarise yourself with Wikiversity's research guidelines and process, and explore the other Wikiversity research resources. Then jump right on in: think of some branch of woodworking about which you wish to know more, and start a new research project!

One fundamental part of any research is the literature review, and here in the Wood Workshop this takes the form of a page, common to all of our research projects, which lists lists any relevant literature (books, papers, magazines, videos, etc.). From this page is linked subpages, each of which summarises the literature from a particular viewpoint or topic (for example, the page on workbenches looks at the different ideas espoused about this primary piece of woodworking furniture).
 * Literature Review:

Producing materials for the Wood Workshop
If you interested in helping to produce learning materials for this, the Wood Workshop of the Division of Craft Arts, then the following will be of use.

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School

School can refer to:
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 * School and university projects, guidelines and ideas on how educational institutions can use Wikiversity

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User talk:Executivezen

where to start
"I guess I'm just not sure where to start contributing." <-- Poststructuralism is a good start. I think Wikiversity would benefit from pages such as The first thing you should know about Poststructuralism. While that kind of introductory "lesson" might seem dull and boring to you, it might help start Wikiversity towards building a community of people who know what Poststructuralism is and why it is of interest. Frankly, I have twice read Post-structuralism and Structuralism and I have a several decades long standing interest in language, culture, and society, but I probably could not give a coherent description of what "structuralism" or "poststructuralism" is. As a scientist, I accept the idea that we should always be questioning our assumptions and how we came to know what we think we know. However, I am also a pragmatist. It is fine to question existing structures, but at the end of the day, if there is no alternative that works better, we just continue to make use of our old ways of doing things. It would be useful for someone like me if there was a list of what the major implications/accomplishments of "poststructuralism" have been. --JWSchmidt 21:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Poststructuralism 101 - ok
You've convinced me: I'll make a start on this at the Continental Philosophy section of the Philosophy School main page. I too have a deep interest in pragmatism (though I'm not a scientist), especially as an antidote to unnecessasry metaphysical speculations; though even such speculations I find interesting. I'm currently reading about the distinction between the thinking of Jacques Derrida and Richard Rorty; in particular, the affirmations each have for anti-foundationalism as well as the antagonisms each have with respect to the political utility of their respective approaches. But I'm at it already and will reserve an explaination for the forthcoming pages -- executivezen 14:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * An idea. What if Wikiversity had a special "program" in which every living person discussed at Wikiversity could be made the subject of an "interview"? For example, we could make a list of questions that Wikiversity participants would like to ask Richard Rorty. First, the community would try to provide answers to the questions. Eventually, the "good" questions (not easy to answer) could actually be sent to Rorty and we would see if there is any reply. --JWSchmidt 14:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I like that idea a lot! I can think of some questions myself, I'm sure you can. I know a bunch of academics who could too: could be a useful coup for Wikiversity, a kind of Wikiversity tutorial from the great and good. Better if we could attract these living persons here. When I'm drawing up my poststructuralism pages over the next few days I'll ruminate some more on what we could ask. -- executivezen 15:05, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Continental Philosophy
Hi Executivezen I've expanded the department a bit since you founded it. You might like to slot in your poststructuralism article into the frame work or come and paly the Nietzsche Name Game Mystictim 19:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Michel Foucault reading group
Hi again Executivezen I've just started a Foucault reading group starting of with The Archaeology of Knowledge and was wondering if you would like to join in? Mystictim 12:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

 * would love to. Could I suggest, echoing John's (JWSchmidt) suggestion about mud etc., that we take a few pages of AoK at a time and compare notes? Executivezen 20:20 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Learning and action research
Hi there! I just thought I'd point you in the direction of Learning to learn a wiki way, as a potentially interesting space - discussion is already underway on the talk page on how its participants see it and/or what they want from it. Thought you might be interested, coming from our recent discussions. :-) Cormaggio talk 23:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Crackerjack~enwikiversity

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User talk:Moo7a

course notes
"I've got a lot of courses, lectures, notes, materials....etc" <-- please make sure that your school does not claim to own these materials. Wikiversity can only use learning materials that are "free" in the sense that they can be made available to the world under the GFDL. --JWSchmidt 17:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Dont worry they are all free. They can be made available to the world --Moo7a 03:31, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Help request
Hi Moo7a

When I first came to the Wikiversity site about a month ago I was confused about what was going on here. Since then I've been editing and expanding the Newcomers page as I've made discoveries.

Right now I'm trying to learn something of the range of Learning Projects (Courses) on offer and share my discoveries on a "Featured Pages" page — examples for newcomers showing the range of what's possible here.

I'd greatly appreciate links to good Learning Projects in Engineering & Technology (or elsewhere). I'd especially welcome your commentaries on:
 * how they use the site to teach
 * how many students have been attracted, where they're coming from, whether they're following through
 * what's notable about each course sited
 * how well (or not) the wiki software and Wikiversity delivers an environment to conduct learning

Best wishes

morley 22:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Matt.kaner

Image copyright problem with Image:400pxamoll.jpg
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Image copyright problems

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User talk:Bam~enwikiversity

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User:Mateo~enwikiversity

just want to learn some stuff

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User talk:Mateo~enwikiversity

This is my talk page, leave a message if you want. I just ask that you please don't post subst of templates here. I like to be talked to by people, not machines :)

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Talk:Military medicine

24 June 2008 - Somewhat upset that the School of Medicine does not link the Department of Military Medicine to it's front page. Not sure how to fix this. It happened right after I spent sooo much time working on the military dermatology course outline.

22 Nov 2007 - Added the first course outline (Cold Weather Medicine). I hope you like.

This is a very american view of things... I would suggest a more general view with sub-para on US Military Medicine. Also what happened to the list of sub-disciplines within Military Medicine.... hmmm...

That is a good Idea, in Canada for example the EMT-B would be replaced by Emergency medical responder (EMR). Both of which should fall under the emergency medicine topic. Derek Holden 17:31, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey guys, It was me who removed it and I apologise for that. I have reinstated it and left a School talk: Medicinereply for whoever raised the issue with me. Go raibh mile maith agaibh 18:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

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User:Barbararana

if you believe, you will, if you don't, you won't

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Torah

The Torah is the central and most important document of Judaism revered by Jews through the ages. As the Torah is a religious text and open to interpretation by individuals, the Department of Torah study functions in discussion format.

Important Note: For the purposes of this department the term "Judaism" is non-denominational and does not refer to any particular movement of the Jewish religion.

Format and Contribution
The Torah is divided into a series of five books: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy. The books are further divided into a series of portions called parshahs.

All projects offered by this Department will focus on one particular parshah. The format of a project is that of a discussion. The objective of this department is not to tell the individual how to interpret the text, but rather to foster a dialogue of potential interpretations. Discussions will be moderated according to Wikiversity policies regarding civility and relevance.

Torah is a religious concept. All individuals, regardless of religion are permitted and encouraged to contribute to this discussion. However, there is an expectation that all contributions will conform to a Jewish worldview and would be compatible with the religion Judaism. Contributions that do not satisfy this requirement will be considered vandalism. This is not a comparative religion forum nor is it a forum for the debate of different religions. If that is what you are looking for, please look elsewhere.

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User talk:Mahdi7~enwikiversity

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User:Witchinghour~enwikiversity

About witchinghour
I'm from Amman, Jordan. I'm a big supporter of Open Source

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User talk:Codex Sinaiticus/monobook.js

I am very frustrated with getting this thing to work. I must be doing something wrong. Codex Sinaiticus 22:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

The technical difficulties have been sussed out by my colleague whose js I was ripping... btw if you see this, thanks Matteo..!
 * No problem, I have been meaning to fix this for my self. Also I seft a note to have (..|versity) to be added original code on W: -- Matteo 22:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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PHP/Variables

Variables, as mentioned briefly in Introduction to PHP, are a significant feature of any programming language. They can be used to store all forms of data, and are generally required to perform multiple manipulations on data not hard-coded into a script. This lesson will introduce the basics of variables in PHP.

Basic syntax
In PHP, all variables can be identified by the $ at the beginning of their name. Variables name generally start with a lowercase letter, however this can vary for special variables, which will be explained later. To understand how variables work, take this example:

Here is the same example using variables instead:

Dynamic typing
A number of other high profile languages (C and C++, for example) use static variable typing. This means that variables have to be given a data type (e.g. number, string of letters, boolean TRUE or FALSE) that will remain the same until they are destroyed.

This is often useful, however PHP does away with static typing and dynamically converts variable types when needed. As explained in the Introduction to PHP article, PHP has different syntax for numbers and strings, however due to PHP's dynamically typed nature, strings can be treated as numbers when needed. Take the following example:

In this instance, we are multiplying the number 42 (in a string variable) by pi to a certain number of decimal places. PHP automatically converts '42' to 42 (a string to an integer). Conversion of clearly abnormal data can produce unexpected results, however. Take the following example:

Depending on the PHP configuration, PHP may convert '4string2' to integer values before multiplying it by pi, with unexpected results. (On some PHP versions everything after the '4' is ignored and the result is approximately 12.56)

Variable types
These are the main types of variables you will be dealing with:

 * int – Short for integer. Holds any integer, i.e. a whole numerical value (no decimal places—however, if an int is assigned a number with a decimal place, it will be converted to a float automatically)
 * float – Abbreviation of floating point value. Holds any integer with a decimal place, to a certain precision (generally 32 digits)
 * double – Abbreviation of double precision floating point. Same as above except with far more precision—however, a double value also takes up twice as much memory (generally 8 bytes—obviously insignificant on modern servers)
 * string – Holds any array of characters, i.e. a sentence (or two). Generally has an infinite length; however, for compatibility with older servers, limit the size of strings to 32768 characters. Strings are surrounded with single quotes when used in PHP.
 * boolean – Can either be true or false, many functions return true or false

Declaration
In a lower-level language like C++, the declaration of the type of each variable is needed. For example, the following code in PHP:

Does not explicitly define the type of variable a. Of course, the PHP runtime environment recognizes during execution of this line that the programmer provided a string literal as the value for the variable. If you want to do the same in C++, you would would have to explicitly declare the variable type:

Additional equivalent statements combining declaration and initialization of a variable with the same value would be:

Notice that C++ requires explicit variable declaration (including variable type) whereas PHP does not. However, it is good practise to declare all variables, as if they are not declared PHP defaults their value to FALSE (0, empty etc.). This is because PHP is a dynamically typed language, and as a result neither type casting nor declaration is enforced. The following is possible:

Scope
Scope refers to what can actually modify a variable, e.g:

The page 'another_page.php' has full access to the variable 'var'. OUTPUT-> The above would output nothing, since functions have their own scope, variables outside that scope would not be available.

Globals
You can force functions to access other variables by using the global keyword, e.g:

Would output: Test

Or you can use the $GLOBALS array, like this:

Static Variables
Static variables exist within a function and are saved after the function executes, e.g:

If the variable 'a' was not static, it would echo 0 each time.

Referencing
On a sidenote, a less used feature of PHP (and, indeed, many lower level programming languages) is memory address referencing. The idea is that every variable is stored at a certain address in memory. Now, say you wanted to have a variable that always remained the same values as another, you could just store point it at the same address - any changes at that address, i.e. any change to the value of the first variable, would be reflected in the other variable. Examine the following:

Learning sessions
None available at present.

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User talk:Joooowwee

Block
You have been blocked from editing for three days. At wikiversity, we value constructive contributions. Editing articles and continuously inserting inaccurate (and, in some cases, clearly inaccurate) data does not fall into this category. You are free to appeal this block, just say so on your user talk page (you may still edit this page) and a custodian will review the block. Please either edit constructively once your block has expired or do not edit at all. --Draicone (talk) 22:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

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Web Design/Pen and Paper HTML activities

Spot the Error
With each of the following snippets of HTML, see if you can spot the error: A paragraph of text that is really important A paragraph of text that is really important

A paragraph of text with a list:  Point 1 Point 2


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Filmmaking Basics/Formatting the Script

{| cellspacing="10" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 0em 0em; width:100%" Quick summary of the entire script-formatting lesson for speed readers
 * colspan="1" style="width:100%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Sienna; background-color:Cornsilk;" |

Things to do
Here are the steps for this lesson:
 * 1) Download the free demo version of Final Draft or the free beta version of CeltX which is not as educational as the free demo version of Final Draft but will work with Linux.
 * 2) Learn to use the program.
 * 3) Read the story (below right).
 * 4) Type the story as a movie script (not television script) using Final Draft (free demo) or, if you must, CeltX.

Note: Script formatting is only for dramatic motion pictures, not for documentaries, event video, educational programs, or multimedia. If you want to edit videos of your kids or create 'How to" videos, this is the wrong course. {| cellpadding="20" cellspacing="10" style="width: 100%; background-color: inherit; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto" For the first lesson of this course, you are given a short story and you are told to format the story into the proper format for a motion picture script.
 * }
 * style="width: 60%; background-color: #ffffe0; border: 1px solid #777777; vertical-align: top; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px;" rowspan="2" |
 * Analyze the story and format the movie script using a script formatting program

 * A golden opportunity - Final Draft FREE demo version: Now is an excellent time to learn script formatting. This is a task that people do every day in Hollywood so this lesson give you excellent practice.

 * A wonderful tool: You can download a free yet working demo version of Final Draft which is a script typing and script formatting program. This is the ideal program for learning script formatting.  There are versions for both the Macintosh and Windows.

 * CeltX - An interesting alternative: if you cannot use Final Draft, you can download a free program called CeltX and the manual.  It is free, and it works on Linux as well as Macintosh and Windows.  Final Draft does not work with Linux.

Why such a simple story?

 * This is an extremely simple story. It seems trivial.  You say, "I want something more challenging!"

 * I have heard this a thousand times from beginning filmmakers. Filmmaking looks so easy.

 * Wrong! This movie will be anything but easy. By the time we turn this simple script into a motion picture, this tiny movie will require a huge amount of effort.  Filmmaking is never as simple as it looks.  With this very simple scene, you will have the opportunity to do it all.

The steps of this lesson

 * 1. Look at the story:
 * To the right, you see the story for "Seduced by the Dark Side!". Even though this is a very short story, it still needs proper formatting because this movie will be worked on by hundreds of people.  Everyone in Hollywood expects to see your script typed in the proper format.

 * 2. Identify the elements:
 * On page 2, you see how the story is broken down into the different elements such as CHARACTER and DIALOG. Before you turn to this page, think about what elements of the story are needed for the script.

 * 3. Download and learn to use Final Draft demo version:
 * On page 3, you get a brief introduction to Final Draft. Final Draft is both a very professional program with lots of features and a simple typing program.  First, you need to learn all the elements of a formatted script.  Your second step is to learn how to navigate inside of Final Draft.

 * Important: Even though Final Draft has a tutorial, you will learn navigation mostly by trial and error using the TAB and the RETURN keys.

 * 4. Typing the script - Line by Line:
 * On page 4, you are shown all the steps of typing this script using Final Draft. Try doing this without looking.  If you have studied the script and learned how to format using Final Draft, you should not need to read this page… but I include it just in case.

Your Assignment

 * Submit a PDF file with the completed script formatted in proper format for a motion picture. (With the Macintosh OS X, you simply as to print the page using the PDF option.)  If you have CeltX, you can submit the CeltX project file.  Your instructor's email address is "r_elliott at innercite.com".

 * The title page in Final Draft will print automatically when you print your script so don't forget to select the Title under the Document menu and fill in all the info for the title page.

There is a bug in Final Draft!

Title Page BUG in Final Draft

 * Warning: There is a bug in Final Draft.
 * The title page will not print correctly to PDF in some cases. You have to follow a special procedure.

 * To type the title page, select TITLE PAGE from the DOCUMENT menu. A special window appears.  When finished, all the "(WORDS)" should be replaced with your information.  No brackets should appear in the actual title page.

 * Final Draft does not remember the information on the title page until you close the title page window. After you close the title page window, save your project (SAVE AS...).

 * Then open the title page again to see if the information is still there. (I always save a copy of all the text from the title page in TextEdit or my word processing program, just in case.)

 * Now you can use SAVE AS PDF in the FILE menu to create the PDF version which you will send to me.

Here is the story!
 * style="width: 40%; background-color: #f0f0ff; border: 1px solid #777777; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px; height: 10px;" |

 * style="background-color: #fff8f8; border: 1px solid #777777; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px; height: 10px;" |
 * style="background-color: #fff8f8; border: 1px solid #777777; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px; height: 10px;" |

The Tutorial

 * Skim the tutorial for Final Draft which is located in the Final Draft folder. Most of the content is for advanced users so you will not need this.

Optional Readings

 * Script Formatting
 * Script Formating Specs.

Optional References

 * Screenplay
 * Script Formatting Example (pdf)
 * Formatting tutorial
 * Article on Script Formating
 * Final Draft Demo Download

Want more practice?
There is another course which shows how high school drama departments can create motion pictures as part of their class. See Course:Basic Filmmaking for High School Drama Departments. These are short movies which can be filmed on the stage set for the school play.

Please write a 5-minute motion picture script and, of course, format the script just as you did in this lesson.
 * }

{| cellpadding="10" cellspacing="5" style="width: 100%; background-color: inherit; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto"
 * style="width: 50%; background-color: LemonChiffon; border: 1px solid #777777; vertical-align: top; -moz-border-radius-topleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 8px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 8px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 8px;" |

The Next Page

 * Continue this lesson on Page 2 - Analyze the Story

 * }

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User:Ashwani

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Web Design/A scaffolded Web Project

See the document links below for a chapter of a manuscript (not previously published) on writing websites to build a basic web site. The document offers a range of activities and culminates in a case study in which you use a template to create a web site within a given framework.

For more information, see user dedide.

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Portal talk:Cultural studies

How does this relate to School:Sociology? --JWSchmidt 14:34, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Proposal to restructure portal contents
This page should be used as a portal for Cultural Studies as described at Cultural studies as this is the commonly understood meaning of Cultural Studies. The current contents of this page should be copied to a different page.

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User:JWSchmidt/main page images

Monday

Tuesday

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User:Mohanganeesh

Mohanganeesh

Hi everyone! Click on the link above or visit http://mohanganeesh.50webs.com

watch this page for updates about me!

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