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Talk:Wiki Campus Radio

For disscusions concerning planned playlist content or scheduling see /Active audio stream

Wikio is an idea that was born back in the WOPN radio days of the Open Projects Network, now known as Freenode. It combines IRC, wiki and webcasting into a single model of collaborative control of open content audio using exclusively open source software. Let's discuss this concept. CQ 02:38, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

A new beginning
(Cue star wars like intro music)

It's a new year, a new decade, and time to start a new learning resource anew. There are new noises about a revived Sandbox Server, let's jump on the bandwagon. Is anyone interested in helping out? 21:00, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

 * Damn crickets. Ok, I think this place needs a bit of a shake up. So, I'm going to BE BOLD and start a wikicast. Fun fun. If anyone can suggest a topic or two, I'd love to hear. Historybuff 14:24, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Some topics in the news. astrobiology, historian's dream --JWSchmidt 14:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure I can carry on an intelligent dialogue about astrobiology, but I'm game for either. I think I'm going to start with just some simple voice recordings, to get the ball rolling -- just to have some stuff to play with, as I'm sure we'll have some technical stuff to deal with. Also, do you have any times/days which work better on this stuff? Historybuff 09:55, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I just heard one of the talking heads of network television asking, "What is astrobiology?" I suggested that topic because it is of interest to me, but it might be productive to have a mix of participants who have different levels of familiarity with the topic. It might be worth exploring the idea that we can have a distributed system for creating audio resources...the participants need not be online at the same time. I have some schedule flexibility for the next month...in the past, it seemed like evening in North America often attracted the most participants. Did you ever use Teamspeak? --JWSchmidt 15:25, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

 * So many questions. :)
 * I think astrobiology is a great topic -- and before you mentioned it (and NASA), I hadn't heard of it. WV is all about learning, so I think we should be doing that ... so talking about astrobiology seems spot on.
 * As far as asynchronous comms goes, it's a great idea, but I think baby steps are the way to go. I've done a couple solo recordings, and the next step would be with another participant or two.
 * I did try teamspeak, skype, and a few other similar type products. They all seem similar, but some people are more familiar with one then another.
 * I think eves North America time is a good place to start. Maybe we could set something up for around 10PM EST one eve? Historybuff 21:16, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

 * 10PM EST sounds okay. It is often useful to coordinate via IRC. I've started a Wikiversity page about Replacement of phosphorus by arsenic in living organisms...hopefully it can lead to some follow-up audio discussing the NASA-funded research and implications for the search for extraterrestrial life. --JWSchmidt 22:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

I've peeked into IRC on a couple occasions, but it seems awful quiet. I have a couple of test audio bits, I might do a few more and upload them to the Toolserver so we can work on editing them. I might just pick a day, and if it's just two of us chatting back and forth, so be it to start. Historybuff 15:21, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Older discussions

 * IRC seems so....last century. Why not use something like iChat? --JWSchmidt 03:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If IRC is so last century, then why are you on #wikiversity-en? :D Cheers! Michael Billington
 * IRC provides one of the most reliable, most controlable, most widely availible forms of protocols around and if a bot were to be included it would be most likely easier by use of IRC --Nolhay 17:43, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

(talk • contribs) 10:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Rough Draft
My favorite Surfer!

You know I'm oldschool, JW *big grin* tractor backfires I'll have to look into iChat.

Meanwhile back at the Farm...

What you see to your left is a Rough draft of Portal:Wikio, or what ever we decide to name this puppy. The name Wikio was chosen from the Wikia.com context and has commercial overtones, just like the normal broad perception of the term Radio. I'm not sure how Jimbo, Angela and the rest of the gang at Wikia will react|respond to Wikio.net, but that context is what drove the current document and Wikio has... ...something to do with fundraising.

Like, I hope the current document clearly states: Wikio is|has|does what WE tell it to be|have|do.

I'm banking on this experiential learning process being community-wide-open! up CQ 10:16, 14 October 2006 (UTC) dn

 * OK... six months later... It's still in the Rough Draft stage but we have made quite a bit of progress. We've incorporated Voice over Internet Protocol using a temporary Asterisk IAX hub to record some interviews and chat sessions. (See details below). We've settled on the name Wiki Campus Radio and added some related learning projects to help generate some content: Getting started with sound recording, Audacity, Linux Server Administration and several others. I'll try to update the article page soon. Thanks to all who have taken an interest in this project and are helping to move it foreward. CQ 01:44, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject WikipediaWeekly
New webcasting project at Wikipedia: WikiProject WikipediaWeekly. --JWSchmidt 11:34, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Name
The name might be confused with the search engine Wikio (which I also think is too close to "wikia"). Angela 22:54, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks for your input, Angela! Ratz! I wasn't aware of wikio.fr. :(
 * The name isn't that important. We can call Jimbio or Wikiversio, or maybe Wikiverse Radio. What's important is that people will be able to hear what's going on and the music, news, info and other free content will be very cool and created in a community-wide open learning project :) CQ 23:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Since renamed - Wiki Campus Radio ShakespeareFan00 22:31, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Skype test
I think the first step for this is to get two users on skype at the same time and learn how to record a sample. Then we can throw it over to the audiocity expert for audio editing. Then will come music, shows, etc... --Rayc 22:19, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am jwsurf on Skype. --JWSchmidt 22:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am nolhay on Skype. --Nolhay 17:36, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Soliciting people for IAX tests
I think that Wikio might be well suited to be part of a proof of concept with regard to Remote Learning Development, at least as one component. If anyone would like to particpate in a test, let me know. Historybuff 08:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

There is a freely available multi-platfrom client available here. It looks like it's development isn't current, but it does work. There are other trial/shareware clients, and some other single platform free clients. Anyone interested in trying it?
 * We've opened Topic:VoIP and done some experiments. Even had a conference call between Historybuff, JWSchmidt and Me. I didn't have a mic, but I heard HistoryBuff talking and JW's tv going. I was using the MozIAX plugin for Mozilla Firefox. Kind of like it must've been back in the 1920s. Hehe. ...but we're coming along! CQ 06:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

IRC
If you IRC, join us on #wikiversity-en for coordinating and VoIP help in real-time. CQ 16:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Second Session
If you'd like to be involved, sign your name, Day of week and Timezone (in UTC offset if you know it) so we can schedule. Historybuff 20:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

This voice chat session will be recorded, edited and uploaded to Wikiversity as an ogg-format file. The session will be recorded in .wav audio format.

 * Any, UTC-5, Historybuff 20:51, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Saturday, UTC-6 --Rayc 20:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What time on Saturday?
 * I thought I would have time free on Saturday... i might have time next sautruday.--Rayc 20:29, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I am Arizona (UTC-7:00) --JWSchmidt 21:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Almost any. I'm in UTC-6 (US Central) --CQ 16:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I just got a headset but I'll need time to get set up. It may be Sunday for me but go ahead. --CQ 16:52, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
 * ...your preference, TZ and ~

test OGG file
. (Help with ogg audio play.) Image:Wikio-launch.ogg
 * Sounds good, though sort of one sided. Might be the first song every uploaded on wikiversity, though. The conversation between you and the other person was unbalanced.  Need to up the other person's mic.--Rayc 20:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Right, Rayc. (...first of many many, I hope) It was a seat-of-the-pants flight for me and I was nervous. I found the input level controls and hope to get some help from SynrG about setting up the streaming, file handling and other black magic. ;) CQ ("Kentucky Chuck", yeoman, etc.) 21:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Impromptu Session
We had an off the cuff session when Rayc joined us in the IRC channel. Although it's after session 2, since it was unscheduled and unrecorded I think it's appropriate to chalk it up as a test session. We identified some technical hurdles that the chat has which need to be solved, as well as we got up to 4 particpants at one time. We also discussed some other applications of the technology, and CQ made some good points with regard to the Sandbox Server. We should have another formal session quite soon. Historybuff 16:53, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Third Session
We are going to be doing a third session, to discuss the Sandbox Server. The goal is to record the discussion, edit it and have a high quality OGG sound file. Discuss possible times above.
 * What program, and what time?--Rayc 20:32, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I suggest that participants talk about the contents of the Sandbox Server page and what Wikiversity could do with such a server. I suggest that we try to develop a "distributed time" approach. Apparently HistoryBuff can leave the current server in a mode so that it automatically records. As soon as two people meet in the IRC chat channel, they can get started. Other people will be able to listen and add their own comments later. I will eventually try to edit it all into one coherent discussion. --JWSchmidt 20:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll have to get on IRC later then. Hammer out a method. Busy right now with work, try it some other time.--Rayc 20:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

An edited version (six minutes) of the voice chat session is in. . Help with ogg audio play. I plan to add my own commentary soon. This edited version was made from the much longer. I wanted to use GarageBand to edit the original sound file. GarageBand will open AIFF, WAV, AAC and MP3 files. I used the GUI converter called Super (for Windows, see this review) to convert the original OGG audio file into an AAC audio file. Using GarageBand, I edited out dead air, speech that was to quiet or too loud and off topic dialog. I just wanted a short audio clip that would demonstrate an ability to record multiple people having a discussion. GarageBand is also good at increasing the volume of quiet sounds and reducing the volume of loud sounds, so I was able to even out some very quiet input and some very loud input. GarageBand produces .m4a files, a form of MPEG4. For video OGG files, I use the conversion method shown at Podcasting. I decided to try Music Man demo to convert the audio m4a file to an OGG file. It worked fine, but I am in the market for a totally free alternative (note: the VLC media player for Mac OS X did this conversion, but produced an OGG file that is more than twice as large as the file made by Music Man). --JWSchmidt 03:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Modified and expanded version. I made by adding some commentary to  and I also added in some comments from Jimmy Wales about Wikiversity. . Help with ogg audio play. This is about 15 minutes play time and a 12 Mb download.

Another recorded session
Just an update -- we've been able to pull in up to 6 participants at one time, and had one participant from Australia join us.

We need to do another recorded session, but need a firm topic or an agenda of a few topics to speak about. If you want to participate, please add your name to this above. Historybuff 02:07, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

 * "agenda" - I wonder if it would be useful to talk about the various existing efforts to make/use copyleft webcasts/podcasts/etc and possible ways to coordinate/integrate them or at least get cooperation between them. --JWSchmidt 13:55, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * That would be cool. We have, through IRC established a rapore with WikiCast, Hypatia, and even the commercial network ZtekRadio (through User:Drjayztekradio) and others are waiting in the wings. I think. We should try to "join forces". An agenda would be nice, but when your just getting to know each other, it's hard to stick to... but if you post one somewhere, I'll try. -- CQ 04:25, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

18 February
This long conference call was split into two parts: These ogg audio files include some diagnosis of audio problems and some discussion of Wikiversity and related education-oriented projects. Editing needed! --JWSchmidt 21:48, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * About the first 115 minutes, [[Image:Session-raw-2007-02-18p1.ogg]]
 * About the second 120 minutes, [[Image:Session-raw-2007-02-18p2.ogg]]

Topics for upcoming sessions
We are going to be doing this on a semi-regular basis. We'd like to select a time that is inclusive for all, so please indicate when you might be available in your Timezone, and what Timezone it is.

Right now, we have:
 * Talk about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_WikipediaWeekly/Wikimania_2007 ... could we help?
 * Further discussion Wikimania_2007
 * Discussion on various copyleft pod/*-casts, and ways to co-ordinate
 * Discussion about general production of audio material
 * New ideas for wikio - speaker's corner/voice colloquium, additional shows/topics
 * Interviews. Topics: technology and education.
 * a short infomercial about Wikiversity:
 * Time: any
 * Timzone: any
 * Language: any
 * User: any
 * Topic: any
 * Channel: #wikiversity
 * Protocol: IRC
 * CQ 02:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion with Leigh Blackall
Information about [Leigh Blackall]

Time: 12.00pm (noon) (Sydney, Australia time)

Date: Saturday 28th April 2007

Participants: Chrismo, Historybuff, CQ, JWSchmidt, Countrymike

Raw audio file, edited version. --JWSchmidt 13:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Discussion Alexander Hayes
I would like to interview professional educators and get their perspective on Wikiversity. Alexander Hayes has agreed to participate. Is it possible to schedule a time? Chrismo 14:50, 20 March 2007 (UTC) Hi Chris - My apologies for not getting back in here sooner. I'd like to discuss why in a talk re-scheduled ( see new time ) and engage you all in discussion as to how we can move forward with LearnScope and more. Again - my apologies and hope you can make it to the next proposed chat --Alexanderhayes 05:38, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Well folks I havent heard from Chris who said he'd be convening the discussion. As I dont know what client to use to talk I'm awaiting a call from Chris on my mobile - Australia - +61 407459557 - to be able to connect. Can someone please alert hom of this - ta :-)--Alexanderhayes 23:37, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Time: 12.00pm ( Sydney, Australia time ) - visit world clockfor your time

Date: Saturday 26th May 2007

Participants: Chrismo, Historybuff, Ben Armstrong, Cormaggio,  CQ, JWSchmidt, Countrymike

Rough draft: A 30-60 minutes discussion about learning theory and educational technology and many other things.

Discussion with Teemu Leinonen
Information about Teemu Leinonen

Time: In the future

Date:

Participants:

Rough draft:

Discussion with Daniel Baumann
Information about [ Daniel Baumann]

Time: In the future

Date:

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Roundtable with Nelson Pavlosky
Information about Nelson Pavlosky

Time: In the future

Date:

Participants: Poningru, Aphid

Rough draft: Discussion about the Free Culture Movement. Nelson is cofounder of FreeCulture.org. see Wikiversity outreach

Discussion with Wayne Mackintosh and Cormac Lawler
Time: In the future

Date: Dec 15-20 (tentative)

Participants:

Rough draft: A discussion about links (and possibly distinctions) between Wikiversity and Wikieducator, and a broader look at the OER movement, with a focus on wiki-based activities.

WikiCast
Hi,

Interesting ideas...

OK so This is a partial advert, but please take a look at http://www.bitshuffle.org/wikicast/Main_Page

You might also want to look at Freematrix, and the archived WNN disscusions over at WikiNews

62.56.80.248 21:37, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

We are talking to some people at wikicast, but our goal isn't just being able to broadcast -- it's being able to facilitate learning. I definately see networking and collaboration opportunities, though. Hopefully we'll be seeing more wikicasters here :) Historybuff 02:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Alrighty then. We're going to open up a WikiCast workspace in the main namespace... LiquidThreads moves this segment of the conversation to Talk:WikiCast • CQ 22:13, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

UNIT-E
The Wikio project welcomes the UNIT-E recording label to the mix. This group is proficient at Music Production using Free audio software and interested in expanding the Audio Engineering department through their intricate knowledge of the topic. Their music is available under a Creative Commons license. Welcome, especially Ajgenius! CQ 19:01, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Volume
The volume is loud on these recordings...is it possible to make the volume lower? Or perhaps it is simply the fact that my local settings are set too high? --HappyCamper 04:05, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you specify a file that is particularly bad? For the ones that I have edited, I did make an attempt to get the volume within the dynamic range of my playback equipment. For example, with [[Image:WCRApril28PartB.ogg]] I can leave the internal volume control of QuickTime player at maximum and reduce my computer's output volume control to about the half way point for easy listening. It would be possible for me to make the volume of the fies lower, but you should be able to use your controls to reduce the playback volume to zero. --JWSchmidt 13:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I only listened to Image:WCRApril28PartA.ogg. I was listening with a headset and had to turn the volume down to less than a slither in order for it to be comfortable. Frankly, I was thoroughly shocked and I'm a little afraid to test this out again! :-) I'll try out the files again later. --HappyCamper 14:04, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I didn't figure out what my problem was, but I have a workaround that I like...use speakers instead! --HappyCamper 22:20, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you describe what hardware, OS and ogg player you are using? "turn the volume down" <-- does this mean the volume control for your computer or the volume control for the ogg player? --JWSchmidt 23:26, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this is a problem that we can eventually work out. (Sorry about any hearing loss Happy Camper). If we continue with VoIP ecperiments, we should be able to engineer a way to get uniform "input sensitivity" despite a wide range of microphone types (for example condenser, dynamic, line level, and bare telephone type input devices). There remain a multitude of problems, but we are "getting there". -- CQ 02:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * No, no...not hearing loss!! Just a really big jolt. Volume control for the OGG player. I was using Winamp Media Player. Running on Windows XP. --HappyCamper 05:20, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It might be my fault, my mic-output mic and my line-level input tend to make me the quietest speaker and the dynamic range might be adjusted to me right now. :S We will work towards getting something that everyone is comfy with, and we do appreciate the feedback. Historybuff 06:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Collaboration with real live stations
I'm going to be poking around with this a little. I had a meeting with a local (to me) college station, and I will be trying to meet with them again. Any interest from our side in this? Historybuff 23:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Channels?
It sounds interesting. I have two q. Will I need for this new software? Will be there a possibility to run more channels?--Juan 11:47, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

 * I don't think we'll need more "channels" quite yet -- we have 24 hours in a broadcast day, and right now not even a full day worth of original programming (so far). We are definately open to running new shows, though, whether they be one-off or something regularly (or irregularly) scheduled.
 * I'm not sure what you mean by "new software" -- do you mean you'll need software to use WCR? For recording, it would seem so. For listening, we're going to try and provide both OGG and MP3 format output, I hope. Historybuff 06:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Okay. So now I understand.--Juan 15:15, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Campus Radio irc channel
Hi people, I have realized there will be a need of special channel for WCR. So what are the recomendations. How we can name it? Just:

 * 1) wiki_campus_radio?--Juan 22:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Juan, why shouldn't the preparations, pre-meetings before the WCR be held as always in #wikiversity-en (see also Colloquium/archives/July_2007) ? I am sure that IRC members can help also for the WCR. Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 23:07, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Well, in this case, I am not talking about preparation, I am talking about off-line broadcasting we can offer within weeks. There will be a need to offer empty channel for people entering on-line broadcasting to be able to talk about current themes. Such as this: Session:Test.--Juan 23:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I understand your reason now better. Perhaps I join the new channel then also from time to time. Name: just propose one, e.g. #WCR or #Wiki-Campus-Radio. If nobody objects that will be it :-) Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 23:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, problem of WCR, is that it is to long, but on the other hand #Wiki-Campus-Radio is more userfriendly to new users. It maigt be modified to #wiki-campus-radio - as other channels are not using capitals.--Juan 23:41, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Update Currently disscussions relating to WCR are taking place in #Wikimedia-radio on freenode :) ShakespeareFan00 18:22, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Wikinews also proposing a radio project
There's a proposal on Wikinews to set up a radio station that would incorporate content and initiatives from across the Wikimedia family. Initial ideas for Wikiversity's part in this (by the Wikinews community) include recording educational sessions based on Wikiversity content - eg a session on learning a particular language. If you want to add your own ideas, there's a section specifically for Wikiversity. Personally, I'd love to further such an initiative, and use it as a means to learn about the process of doing radio - thereby inviting people to get involved - as much as about learning how all projects can be used for educational ends. I don't think it needs to be limited to recording spoken versions of Wikiversity pages - though that's certainly part of what we could do. :-) Cormaggio talk 14:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Internet Radio Stations
Hi,

How does the wiki community feel about collaborating with student run radio stations? I am part of a student run radio station in the University of California San Diego. This station is internet only and plays strictly "independent" music/programs (that is, material that is not easily accessible in popular media).

We have a show that focuses on various types of music (our blog can be found here: http://nowavenodiego.blogspot.com/). Would it be possible for us to podcast our shows on the wiki campus radio?
 * Hi, anything is possible :-)
 * Perhaps you can show us a sample ? Either link or you can upload e.g. a file at commons (see possible upload formats). The files there can then be used on all Wikimedia projects (Wikipedia, Wikiversity, ...). Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 17:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes indeedie! That's what I'm talkin' 'bout! CQ 17:23, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Policy issue - Religon..
It was my understanding that in terms of direct religious broadcasting (i.e Preaching), this is something that would definitly not be possible as it would violate standing policy (including NPOV).

However, it has been noted that one of the Gospels had been suggested in the possible projects for the Active stream.

In terms of religion and the use of religious works, what would be considered appropriate editorial/contributor guidance? ShakespeareFan00 17:18, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

 * What would Jezux do? CQ 17:26, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Policy issue -Wiki Politics...
In a disscussion on he #Wikimedia-radio it was suggested that WCR adopt a policy of not airing 'endorsments' in respect of on-wiki politics.

However I am starting a disscussion here to try an develop some editoral/contributor guidance on this issue.

Real World politics, would IMO be completely out of project scope at this stage.. ShakespeareFan00 17:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

 * WCR is a proposed hyper-public Internet meeting place. It is built on FLOSS for developing and distributing free content and shall (if I have anything to do with it) not become a haven for censors, trolls and naysayers. CQ 17:33, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't rule anything out as far as discussion goes. I'm of one mind with CQ here -- and politics should be fair game. We aren't looking to add a talking head on either the "Right" or "Left" side, but genuine discussion is to be welcomed. Historybuff 20:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Time
WCR utilises UTC doesn't it ? ShakespeareFan00 23:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
 * See Timestamp • CQ 17:35, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

The yeoman is back
I'm back! CQ 16:54, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Welcome back Yeoman ... its been a long time; things have changed around here I reckon - possibly not for the better but good to see you back on board. Countrymike 23:00, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah and I wanna kick some *ss ;) This place is getting sloppy! • CQ 16:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Whole Wheat Radio
These guys have the platform! I joined the community and started listening last week. I'm hoping they'll come over here and show us how it's done. • CQ 16:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

 * The magic of Whole Wheat Radio and it's overall platform has been designed by Jim Kloss...Master Programmer ;-) It is summer in Alaska right now and summer is a very short season up there. This is one of Jim's busiest times and he tends to spend much less time at the computer while he races to accomplish necessary warm weather projects. He is the man behind the curtain of our OZ, and he will have to be the one to answer any questions concerning his alteration of and additional coding he has personally interfaced with the Mediawiki software. He morphs into a codehead when the Alaskan weather turns icy!

 * WWR's community powered radio ties both the physical community of Talkeetna, Alaska with the virtual community. If you have the time, you can read What is Whole Wheat Radio to see our mission and core values. You might also take a look at WWR's basic rules for more insight and see if we are still a desirable model for WCR's endeavors. For now you might want to also take a look at our technical glossary to see what sort of platforms are utilized...such as Jasper.

 * Just to note...we have had a few discussions, cussings, and battles on the Mother Ship Wikipedia concerning WWR's notability. For now I guess we are considered notable...not sure for how long though. I just wanted to throw this tidbit out there to let all of you know we are considered outlaws in some circles, but that is alright with us! We try to keep our eyes on the future rather than the past! ;-) Atuuschaaw 13:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Heh. Yeah we know about wikibattles around here for sure. Wikiversity is ostensibly an extension of Wikipedia as a Wikimedia sisterproject, so we have our share of wikicratic spillover. We've suffered a few cussings too. Hopefully when we get up into the realm of sound with actual sonic content, we'll be able to grow in both size and social maturity. Thanks for the insight and the very helpful linkage, Atuuschaaw. I'm not too concerned about how long this is all taking. It's like laying tracks and building the engine, at this point. It may take a few more years to get this train moving. CQ 04:46, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

LibrePlanet
This project will never die. It may take decades, but it will happen. See this page at LibrePlanet.org for current status. Sign up at Libre.fm right away. Thanks! CQ (discuss • contribs) 20:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Wiki radio
So I want to record my own radio station on wiki campus radio so pls tell me on how to doit pls Prince lekeka (discuss • contribs) 16:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

 * Wiki Campus Radio is no longer active. The page is for historical reference only. Research Podcast or consider creating your own YouTube channel instead. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 14:01, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

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Tourism

Tourism is the travel for recreation, leisure, religious, family business purposes, usually of a limited duration. Tourism is commonly associated with trans-national travel, but may also refer to travel to another location within the same country.

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Hospitality management

THE SCHOOL OF HOSPITALITY MANAGEMENT
A school which will provide a series of modules on key aspects of hospitality management for professionals interested in a career in food service, hotels or the hospitality industry. Additionally this school contains a department which takes care about free Hospitality Exchange Networks.

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 * Introduction to the hospitality industry
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International Tourism page
Hello Paul. Just letting you know about the International tourism page being developed. As with your school, it is very early days for us. At this stage we are just using it to work out a structure for a course we offer here at Otago Polytechnic in New Zealand.--Leighblackall 21:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

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The Art of Computer Programming/Algorithms

Notes on Page 7
This page is part of The Art of Computer Programming.

Explanation of "f is a function from Q into itself" and "f(q) should equal q for all elements q of (horseshoe symbol)" from p. 7.

''The problem on page seven where Knuth attempts to explain algorithms in terms of mathematical set theory is giving me big trouble though. Specifically, can anyone explain the following statements?''

"f is a function from Q into itself". "f(q) should equal q for all elements q of (horseshoe symbol)"

It actually gets a little clearer as you read further along through the example.

While studying anything in depth, one builds a model of the subject, in which everything that is non-essential is stripped away, and only core concepts are retained. This allows one to analyze the subject in a mathematically rigorous manner, without any ambiguities that might arise from an informal description.

In this case, Knuth is building a model to represent a "computational method" by abstracting away real-world things such as CPUs, memory, displays and suchlike.

Q represents all the possible states that a computation may be in. Of these, some states can be considered as input states (I), and some as output states (the horseshoe symbol, which is the uppercase Greek letter Omega). And then there is the function f which represents a computational step.

Given that you are currently in state x of the computation, if you apply step f, you get into a new state y. If you are already in an output state (in other words, if you have finished the computation), applying step f again doesn't get you anywhere. You just stay in the same state -- that's what "f(q) should equal q for all elements q of Omega" means.

Let's say you want to use an elevator to get to the 3rd floor in a five-floor building. The set Q has five states:

1) Elevator in floor 1 2) Elevator in floor 2 3) Elevator in floor 3 4) Elevator in floor 4 5) Elevator in floor 5

The set I also has the same 5 states since you can get into an elevator from any floor.

Suppose that floor 4 is a private suite, so you can't get off at floor 4. In that case, Omega will include only states (1, 2, 3, 5) from Q. Note that people on the fourth floor can summon the elevator to their floor, so 4 is still in set I.

Function f is the act of pressing a button inside the elevator.

Now the statement f(q) = q says that if are already on floor 2, then pressing 2 again leaves you in the same state. That's all. The reason you have to specify this in the model is to define termination of the computation method rigorously.

Note that the model does not need to specify memory as a distinct concept because it can be rolled into the notion of a state. In the Euclid's algorithm example on page 8, Knuth has used state variables 1, 2 and 3 to represent different states of the computation, but he has included it as part of the states. If you were to write it in a programming language, you'd either use explicit state variables, or it would be implicit in the form of the program counter. (The program counter and the registers in a CPU are all part of the computer's state.)

I hope this has made it somewhat clearer. In general, you don't really need to go back to such a primitive definition of a computational method, but it is useful to have such a definition around, just in case someone asks, "But what exactly do you mean by 'computational method'?"


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The Art of Computer Programming/Algorithms/Exercises

Answers for Exercises for Section 1.1
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Section 1.1 Exercises

1. [10] The text showed how to interchange the values of variables m and n, using the replacement notation, by setting t ← m, m ← n, n ← t. Show how the values of four variables (a, b, c, d) can be rearranged to (b, c, d, a) by a sequence of replacements. In other words, the new value of a is the original value of b, etc. Try to use the minimum number of replacements.

My solution:

temp ← a a ← b  b ← c  c ← d  d ← temp

Knuth’s solution: Same

2. [15] Prove that m is always greater than n at the beginning of step E1, except possibly the first time this step occurs.

My solution: The first time this step occurs n and m are the input values, so there it is possible that m is greater than n. After the first time this step occurs, m will be the value of n, and n will be the value of r (the remainder of m divided by n). Since the remainder of m divided by n will always be less than n, m (which is the previous value of n) is always greater than n (which is the remainder r).

Knuth’s Solution: Basically the same. After the first time, the values of the variables m and n are the previous values of n and r, respectively; and n > r.

3. [20] Change Algorithm E (for the sake of efficiency) so that all trivial replacement operations such as set m to n are avoided. Write this new algorithm in the style of Algorithm E, and call it Algorithm F.

My Solution: Here is my thinking on this one: In algorithm E, the value of m is not needed after finding the remainder of m divided by n. So instead of saving the remainder (step 1) in variable r, it can overwrite the value of m. Step 2 then had to be changed since 1) the remainder is now stored in variable m, and 2) the answer if the remainder is zero, is in variable n. The reduction (step E3) was replaced with steps F3 and F4 that reverse the division and save the remainder in variable n (with the corresponding changes in checking if the remainder is zero.) Then we can go back to step F1 since the remainder is now back in n.

Algorithm F (Euclid’s algorithm with no trivial replacements) Given two positive integers m and n, find their greatest common divisor, that is, the largest integer that evenly divides both m and n.

F1. [Find remainder] Divide m by n and let m be the remainder. (0 ≤ m ≤ n) F2. [Is it zero?] If m = 0, the algorithm terminates; n is the answer. F3. [Find remainder] Divide n by m and let n be the remainder. (0 ≤ n ≤ m) F4. [Is it zero?] If n = 0, the algorithm terminates; m is the answer, else go back to step F1.

Knuth’s solution: Same, just worded differently. Algorithm F (Euclid’s algorithm) Given two positive integers m and n, find their greatest common divisor.

F1. [Remainder m / n] Divide m by n and let m be the remainder. F2. [Is it zero?] If m = 0, the algorithm terminates with answer n. F3. [Remainder n / m] Divide n by m and let n be the remainder. F4. [Is it zero?] If n = 0, the algorithm terminates with answer m, otherwise go back to step F1.

4. [16] What is the greatest common divisor of 2166 and 6099?

Solution using the initial definition of algorithm E: m = 2166, n = 6099, r = 2166 m = 6099, n = 2166, r = 1767 m = 2166, n = 1767, r = 399 m = 1767, n = 399, r = 171 m = 399, n = 171, r = 57 m = 171, n = 57, r = 0 Answer is 57

5. [12] Show that the “Procedure for Reading This Set of Books” that appears in the preface actually fails to be a genuine algorithm on three of out five counts! Also mention some differences in format between it and Algorithm E.

My Solution: It does not meet the guidelines for finiteness, definiteness, and effectiveness. Some of the differences between it and Algorithm E is that algorithm E terminates, it only used mathematical steps, and the result of performing the algorithm is clearly defined.

The algorithm is not finite since it never terminates so it does not satisfy the finiteness. The algorithm has steps that are not precisely defined. For example, how does one determine if the subject of the chapter is interesting (step 5), how tired do you have to be before you should sleep (step 14). Since it has zero inputs, it satisfies the input condition. The output is specified in step 12 – work exercises so it satisfies the output condition. I am guessing that this algorithm is not effective – for example, step 9 asks if you are mathematically inclined, but there is no effective operation given to determine this.

Knuth’s solution: Not finite nor definite nor effective, perhaps no output; in format, no letter is give before step numbers, no summary phrase appears, and there is no “|”.

Analysis: I got the first part right at least. But I did not even answer the correct question in the second part – I missed the “difference in format” part of the question.

6. [20] What is T5, the average number of times step E1 is performed when n = 5?

My solution: Using my solution to exercise 2 above, n will decrease by at least on each time through step E1, and the remainder of m divided by n will be at most 4. So the most times that E1 will be executed is 5 times and the average number of times step E1 is performed is 5 / 2 or 2.5

Knuth’s solution: Trying Algorithm E with n = 5 and m = 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, we find that step E1 is executed 2, 3, 4, 3, 1 times, respectively. So the average is 2.6 - T5.

Analysis: Note to self: Answers to questions that Knuth pose need to be preciously figured out, the answer is exact not just about. Oh well. Now I have to figure out Knuth’s solution.

m = 1, n = 5, r = 1 m = 5, n = 1, r = 0 answer is 1 and E1 was executed 2 times

m = 2, n = 5, r = 2 m = 5, n = 2, r = 1 m = 2, n = 1, r = 0 answer is 1 and E1 was executed 3 times

m = 3, n = 5, r = 3 m = 5, n = 3, r = 2 m = 3, n = 2, r = 1 m = 2, n = 1, r = 0 answer is 1 and E1 was executed 4 times

m = 4, n = 5, r = 4 m = 5, n = 4, r = 1 m = 4, n = 1, r = 0 answer is 1 and E1 was executed 3 times

m = 5, n = 5, r = 0 answer is 5 and E1 was executed 1 time

Average = (2 + 3 + 4 + 3 +1) / 5 = 13 / 5 = 2.6

7. [M21] Suppose that m is known and n is allowed to range over all positive integers; let Um be the average number of times that step E1 is executed in Algorithm E. Show that Um is well defined. Is Um in any way related to Tm?

My Solution: No clue. In order to figure out the M questions, I think that I will 1) try to figure it out, but do not spend a lot of time on it, 2) if I have no clue; I am going straight to Knuth’s solution and then spend the time trying to understand it. Maybe this is a cop out, but I think I will see how this method goes.

Knuth’s solution: In all but a finite number of cases, n > m. And when n > m, the first iteration of Algorithm E merely exchanges these numbers, so Um = Tm + 1.

Analysis: My first question is about the finite number. This is because m is known and there are only m values that are less than or equal to m, so there are in fact, a finite number of cases, n > m. Now, when n > m, the remainder of m divided by n will always be m since m is divisible by n zero times. So the first step of E1 will swap m and n when n > m.

I did not see the difference right away between Um and Tm, but here is what I get: Um is the average number of times step E1 is performed when m is fixed and n varies. Tm, is the average number of times step E1 is performed when n is fixed and m varies.

So when m is fixed and n > m, a swap is made between n and m and now n is fixed so Um = Tm + 1, but if m is fixed and m > n than there is no swap and Um = Tm. I guess Knuth opted not to include this since there are only a finite number of cases when this occurs.


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Talk:German Language/List of German verbs

I think this page should be deleted and replaced with a Wikibooks link to German/Grammar/Verbs. The Jade Knight 19:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I think this page should be developed, and include a Wikibooks link to German/Grammar/Verbs. :-) Cormaggio 10:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

 * agree with cormaggio. to German/Grammar/Verbs confused me. Sometimes a concise list of verbs is just what the learner needs.Dlohcierekim 19:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Regardless of the verb format needed, wikibooks is the place to put that sort of static list-like content (unless they wont take it). Try to figure out ways to make content interactive here.  The Jade Knight (d'viser) 00:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Order for learning verbs
Perhaps this page should give the learner a list in the order to learn the verbs. This basics could be taken from

Frequency Dictionary of German by Jones and Tschirner isbn 0-415-31633

then adapted to best suite new learners. Brodger3 15:41, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Coming back to German after a thirty year hiatus, I don't think that a particular order is needed. Alphabetical works as well as any. The nuances of learning German cannot all be dealt with in a word list. I've put in the verbs we learned over a three year period, and the learner can pick and choose. Dlohcierekim 19:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

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I did not find a handy list on the Internet. Guess this will be the place. Dlohcierekim 15:18, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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User:Davymast

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Project Interest
I've just joined up and may be able to help with your International Relations contributions. I'm crurrently a grad student in IR, among other things. Let me know what help would be most productive. Trevor 22:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Came across Your IR page, please keep it up! Ive learned so much!!!!

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User talk:Harshadod~enwikiversity

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Portal talk:Interdisciplinary Studies

If you want to experiment with a radical new version of Portal:Education you can work at Portal:Interdisciplinary Studiesnew.

If you update featured content on this portal, make sure that you update Portal:Interdisciplinary Studies/Featured.

Placement of Division of Religious Studies
Isn't Religious Studies part of Humanities rather than interdisciplinary studies? Or if 'relgious studies' at wikiversity means studying religious from a sociological perspective, then it should be part of the Social Science faculty. Davymast 20:05, 14 October 2006 (UTC) [user:davymast|davymast] 14th October 2006

Wikistrings?
Would it be appropriate to have a department devoted to "strings of knowledge" like those explored in the series http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_%28TV_series%29? Users could create strings of already established wikipedia pages to create curriculum that encourages the exploration of knowledge. Wikiversity is unique in that a multitude of lessons are available immediately to the student... we should take advantage.
 * Such "Wikistrings" are fine. --JWSchmidt 21:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

New page format
Use Portal:Interdisciplinary Studiesnew to design a new version of Portal:Interdisciplinary Studies. My main goal was to include featured content and links to other Wikiversity content about Interdisciplinary Studies. --JWSchmidt 04:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Department or Center?
In the Content development projects section there is a listing for Department of Wiki Science, but on that page itself it is referred to as a Center for Wiki Science. I think i prefer the term Center to department. It's more of a 'research' project really than a 'Department'. Does anyone have any issue with changing listing to Center? Countrymike 19:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Dignity Course
I am developing a Dignity course which may fit well here. If you like it, perhaps you can add it to the curriculum. (I hesitated to do this myself because I did not want to disturb the existing structure.)Lbeaumont 16:04, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

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Department news

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Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the learning project (learning projects are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing! We suggest the use of the learning project template (use "subst:Learning project boilerplate" on the new page, inside the double curved brackets – ).

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Background Knowledge
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Roles Transformation for Instructors and Learners
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Talk:Introduction to Programming

Critiques
Hi, I have a number of critiques I'd like to offer about this article.

 * Of course, computers don't understand recipes written on paper. Computers are machines, and at the most basic level, they run on 1's and 0's. If you really wanted to tell a computer directly what to do, you'd have to talk to it in binary, giving it coded sets of 1's and 0's that tell it what instructions to execute.
 * It's not clear what it means to "run on ones and zeroes". A car runs on gasoline, and some people might have an idea of what that really means.  But a complete novice is not going to have a clue what it means to say a computer runs on ones or zeroes.
 * Most people are not going to know what binary is.
 * Most people are not going to know what a "coded set" is.

 * A programming language is a way for a person to write a program without writing directly in binary. A programming language is not a way to do things -- a programming language is a way to express instructions that both a computer and a human can understand.
 * Programming languages are meant to be read by a person, so a computer must either compile or interpret them before they can be executed.
 * You're not defining either of those words, so people are not going to know what compile or interpret mean! Remember, as computer scientists we take our knowledge of computer science of granted.  Beginners are not going to know these teams, and consequently these sentences won't teach them anything.
 * I think it's best to leave out the mechanics of how programming languages are executed by the computer. It's OK if a beginner thinks that the computer actually directly executes Python.  Telling them about compilation and interpretation is just going to confuse them.
 * There are a couple different levels of programming languages. At the most basic level is assembly language. This language is just a direct translation of the binary instructions the computer executes. Every kind of computer has its own assembly language. Here's how to add two numbers in MIPS assembly:
 * Beginners don't need to know about the varieties of programming languages. We should especially stay away from assembly because it does not resemble things they have learned before.  High level languages are OK because most people know what the syntax f(x,y) = x+y means, so we have a common ground by which to explain.
 * You've said There are a couple different levels of programming languages but haven't actually specified what those levels are. Mentioning assembly and high level languages is not defining the levels; you're leaving it to the user to infer that levels are defined by how abstract they are from the hardware.  We don't want to make people infer things when it can be said explicitly.
 * Most people don't program in assembly, because it can be complicated, it takes a long time to write, and it only works on one kind of computer.
 * Yes, so let's not teach it to beginners. Let's not even mention it until introductory courses.
 * High-level languages look more like English with mathematical operations thrown in.
 * What we show below looks nothing like English.
 * These languages require more translation before the computer will understand them,
 * So does every language, but we shouldn't mention that now.
 * The process of translating a program from high-level language to assembly to machine instructions is called either compiling or interpreting, depending on what language you are using.
 * This is factually incorrect. Compilation and interpretation are not conceptually similar.
 * The paragraph following this quotation is far too detailed for a beginner to understand.

I will attempt to rewrite this article. As I have mentioned in other places, I think it would be highly beneficial for the Intro computer science curriculum to use exactly one language, at least until the intermediate level.

A student would not learn Spanish effectively by also being taught German and French concurrently. The fastest way to learn would be to focus on Spanish, then pick up Frech and German later. Similarly, we want to let people focus on as few language concepts as possible while still conveying general programming concepts. Hence, one language.

JustinC 20:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

About the merging
I think this resource shouldn't be in the Topic namespace, it should rather be a resource linked to under the Topic:Programming resource. --Devourer09 02:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Computer programming
Does anyone have any comments on Computer programming at Wikibooks? Is it good? Is it worth working on? How do we integrate it with Wikiversity? --JWSchmidt 02:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * It is ambitious. Very general survey with links into all kinds of topics at Wikipedia.  Brief overview I gave it made it look more like a course that should be at Wikiversity than a specific textbook which should be at Wikibooks.  I will check out some more of it when I get back to Java language programming instead of top level design on cisLunarFreighter game.  Maybe a few well placed questions with links to Wikiversity will woo some of the authors there into helping some with exercises and courses here to attract students to their text there.  70.110.42.176 07:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * We need to develop some wisdom about how to divide content between the projects. Calling encyclopedia articles or textbook modules a "course" does not change such content into Wikiversity content. --JWSchmidt 15:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I think that dividing content is partly going to be a function of "best practices". What techniques are effective for enabling learning? How does one combine those techniques into learning projects that are as effective as we can make them? Do we even know or are we making wild speculative guesses? We are probably going to have to engage in a period of experimentation. We may need to recruit guinea pigs. Dmclean 16:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

 * "run small experiments, tests, see what works, what doesn't, and be prepared to be flexible and change, and not be too locked into stone about how things should work" .... "host learning communities, so people who are actually trying to learn, actually have a place to come and interact and help each other figure out how to learn things. We're also going to be hosting and fostering research into how these kinds of things can be used more effectively." When the Wikiversity project was under discussion, many people said that there was no need for Wikiversity, that it would just duplicate existing efforts. We need to make sure that we do not prove that those critics were right. --JWSchmidt 16:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I have started slicing this content up into lesson-like things. Also, I have added a couple of references to programming exercises. I have no clue what languages we actually want to recommend so I just threw is a couple. I am sure that Java should be one of the recommended languages because it is free and cross-platform. Since we don't have a policy on this, I guess that folks should feel free to recommend a language for which there is a course in development. Dmclean 21:35, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Introduction to Programming Logic/Lesson 1: Variables
Introduction to Programming Logic/Lesson 1: Variables Should probably be combined into, or linked to/from this article.

 * In Topic_talk:Introduction_to_Programming_Logic I expressed my reservations about that entire course, but I also gave my opinion about how to cover variables. Dmclean 18:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Computer Programming vs Computer Science
This is intended to be a course about programming and a course about programming is about something concrete and practical - as opposed to computer science which is not necessarily either. So, I am proposing, and strongly believe that this course should have references to practical exercises in some variety of languages. Opinions? Dmclean 02:16, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. My biggest issue with Wikiversity right now is that it feels generally disorganized. I would suggest that each programming language have it's own set of lessons geared towards those who have at least basic knowledge of computer programming (so no need to explain what an if-then statement is, etc.). The more generalized "Computer Programming" lessons can borrow reading and examples from the language specific lessons (e.g. this is what an if-then statement is, here's a Java example, a VB example, and so forth). If you need help, feel free to give me some small assignments on my to-do list.
 * --James Tharpe 15:22, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * P.S. A cool feature would be a "language filter" such as that found on MSDN. Users could pick the language or languages they care to learn from and the content of the lessons would narrow or expand based on these preferences (for example: Show me C# and Ruby, but not VB).

 * My only concern is that the structure and/or content level of the programming language course will be incompatible with what the folks who are truly new to programming will need. Do we alter the language course so that it is reasonably compatible or do we have separate material? Dmclean 19:27, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
 * If the examples could be seperated from (but included in) the lessons, I think the issue would be solved. So, for example, there could be a Java/if-then syntax and a Delphi/if-then syntax; the Java lesson could include the Java example and the Delphi lesson could include the Delphi example and the Introduction to Programming lesson could include both (I'm not sure how to do "includes" in a Wiki). --James Tharpe 19:44, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you, James, for responding. I have decided to do basically what you suggested. Introduction to Programming has a companion course Introduction to Programming in Java that parallels it and provides Java specific information. I may, at a later date, also work up other, similar courses for other languages that I know, but I'm going to start with Java. Dmclean 21:36, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I look forward to going through it! I've done some Java, but only as a hobby - sticking mostly to Delphi and C# (and VB when I must) professionally. Is there an easy way to copy an entire course? Once it's further along, I'd love to take your Java course and morph it into other languages (C#, VB.NET, Delphi). --James Tharpe 14:46, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

A Plan
I was thinking that the introduction of integers and then boolean expressions would make control structures a little more straightforward - most loops use integer counters and all control structures have a boolean expression in them somewhere. Control structures plus integers would make it possible to do some modest toy problems such as Fibonacci sequences.

Perhaps floating point should be right after that.

Next I think it would be time for structures, objects and arrays.

Then we can look at functions which will lead us to structured and object-oriented programming.

Finally perhaps a bit on strings and libraries in general.

I think that would be enough for a very basic introduction. Combined with an equivalent programming course, that should enable them to work on non-trivial toy programs. Dmclean 15:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I think that's a bit ambitious for the introduction to programming. Maybe it could be re-titled? This section seems to be an overview of general programming concepts, but it is far from complete, as I suppose you both would acknowledge.  I'm willing to write some pieces. One immediate comment, the Variables section that has 3 parts should not be divided as it is currently.  It should be sorted into scalar values, array values, and some form of class-object principle.  This could even be reduced to 2 sections: primitive scalars and arrays of primitive scalars; and class variables and object properties. The "organization of a program is a good thing, an essential element to have.  (comments or "inline documentation" should be mentioned here) and the Scope article is a must as well.  Flow control, as mentioned immediately above, will also be essential.

 * It has been said that this section is to be an introductory section with precise terminology and a correct foundation that is still simple for a completely inexperienced curious reader to understand. Let us adhere to this goal very carefully.  Pnguyen 08:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I should have put in my reasoning behind parts of my plan. I think that it is essential to mix up the material a bit so that it doesn't become boring or repetitive. That's part of the reason why I wanted to introduce integer stuff and then boolean stuff and then do control flow and subprograms. Integers and booleans are needed to do control flow. Having control flow makes it possible to do some interesting toy programs - but it also makes it possible to demonstrate cyclomatic complexity and the necessity of subprograms. From there, we can do arrays and structures and this will allow us to make the case for objects.

 * I'm trying to make it possible for someone with absolutely no previous programming experience to ramp up. Yes, that is an ambitious goal but one that should be possible and eminently worthwhile. I think that this goal requires a careful consideration of the order and manner in which material is presented. I certainly am not going to claim infallibility on this point, given my years of experience, degree and tendency to use intuitive rather than logical thought processes.

 * One of the things that I am leery about is the premature introduction about the importance of good program design. Yes, it's important, but is a true neophyte really going to care? I'm not convinced. I would rather see them have a little fun with a bunch of toy programs, get them comfortable with basic concepts, have them try some things and then, when we get to the point where cyclomatic complexity starts to become an issue, then hit them with design principles. Dmclean 14:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Sounds good; I'll be reading and help clarify/flesh out the lessons. If you have an writing assignment for me, send email.  Maybe I can work on some of the examples/practical applications?  I realize now that I did not analyze the project as a whole before releasing my initial impressions.  Pnguyen 20:07, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

The two of us appear to have a consensus on an overall plan, but there is so much to do. At the moment, I intend to continue nibbling away at the material. As the course continues to take shape, hopefully our understanding of what is needed will improve, leading us to an elegant solution. Dmclean 16:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Added heading for computer science unofficial degree
I added a header and category on this page for thethe Unofficial Computer Science Degree.-- Azotochtli (talk) 19:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Filmmaking Basics/3D Storyboard

Introduction

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We need both beautiful and accurate storyboards

 * FrameForge 3D Studio FREEdemo version
 * In this lesson, you replace your thumbnail storyboards with very beautiful storyboards using free 3D software. The program you will use is FrameForge 3D Studio's free demo version for either the Macintosh PC or the Windows PC.

 * When you are finished, you will have the frames that you need for your animatic (which is a movie made from storyboards.) Therefore, you must be very careful to get the best possible images.  These are the final frames you will use.  Make them great!

 * If you wish, you can watch the FrameForge introduction movie to learn more about FrameForge 3D Studio.

 * Why create an animatic?
 * Even though you have completed the thumbnail storyboards, you still do not know the timing, pace, and rhythm of the story.

 * To get this information, you need to create a movie from the storyboards which is called an animatic. That will give you the timing, pace and rhythm of the story.

 * The animatic will also give you a good idea if the movie will be a success or not.

 * The thumbnail storyboards are not good enough to make an animatic. You need better looking storyboards which are more detailed and accurate. We can make these storyboards using free 3D software such as FrameForge 3D Studio or free DAZ Studio, etc.

 * Note: In this course, we do not use programs such as Storyboard Artist which is only a 2D program. Programs such as Storyboard Quick and Storyboard Artist are great for thumbnail storyboards but are not accurate enough for your animatic.

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A thumbnail storyboard
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The final storyboard

 * Here is a frame from a 3D storyboard.

 * This was done in FrameForge 3D Studio using the free demo version.

One student's comment "Working on FrameForge is not easy!! I have to get myself used to it. But one thing is for sure. This is one helluva software. Amazing! I really am enjoying this experience."

Regards, Sushant

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The young person thinks for a moment. YOUNG PERSON : Humm!

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For more info about lenses, skip to the next lesson.

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Greek classics

Welcome to the Department of Greek Classics.

Department description
The Department of Greek Classics is a Wikiversity content development project where participants create, organize and develop learning resources for Greek Classics.

The Department of Greek Classics is devoted to offering courses on the Ancient Greek language, history, religion, art, and literature. The courses will generally be divided between Language and History. Most conceivable courses can easily be reconciled with these groups.

These courses only serve as an outline and have been arranged in an order from beginner onward. They are by no means written in stone and if better lesson plans or names arise feel free to edit.

The "topic" namespace contains pages that are for management and organization of small academic units at Wikiversity such as departments (see: Topics).

Department news

 * 14 October 2006 - Department founded!

Learning projects
See: Learning Projects and the Learning model.

Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the learning project (learning projects are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing! We suggest the use of the learning project template (use "subst:Learning project boilerplate" on the new page, inside the double curved brackets – ).

Learning materials and learning projects can be used by multiple departments. Cooperate with other departments that use the same learning resource.

Ancient Greek Language
 * Introductory Ancient Greek Language - This course will attempt to familiarize the student with the Greek alphabet, voices, cases, noun declensions, and verb conjugations.
 * Intermediate Ancient Greek Language - This course will focus primarily on the moods and the more complex sentence structuring such as clauses.
 * Advanced Ancient Greek Language - The intent of this course is to expand the students studying beyond this website by encouraging a self taught battery of the more obscure verb forms and translations of actual Greek texts.
 * Homeric Greek - The previous courses having dealt with Attic Greek will have prepared the student for Homeric Greek.

Ancient Greek History
 * Survey of Ancient Greek and Near Eastern History - This course will hopefully offer a very broad historical outline of the region to be delved into more fully in the later courses.
 * Pre-Hellenic Aegean Civilizations - This will focus on the civilizations of the Myceneans and Minoans. Generally granting the student handy knowledge of events leading up to the era known as the classical period of Greece.
 * The Persian War - This course and the next may be combined into one and could be called Ancient Greek Military History
 * The Peloponessian War
 * Ancient Greek Religion
 * Life of Alexander - This course will hopefully deal with his entire life from his birth and relationship with Philip right up to his death and the aftermath. It will deal with all aspects of his life including social, political, military, and religious.
 * The Hellenistic Era - This course will deal with the different kingdoms that arose after the death of Alexander and their relationships with each other and the other cultures around them. This course wil hopefully deal with material up to the aquisition of Egypt by Rome.

Remember, Wikiversity has adopted the "learning by doing" model for education. Lessons should center on learning activities for Wikiversity participants. We learn by doing.

Select a descriptive name for each learning project.

Active Members/Current Projects
This is only necessary as long as the Department is being created in order to more easily contact each other for ideas and such.

 * JManning 00:08, 15 October 2006 (UTC) - I plan to begin writing a basic lesson plan for the Introductory Greek course ASAP
 * Strothatynhe 03:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC) - Have created a course outline for Alexander the Great
 * PoBoy321 03:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC) - I will soon begin creating outlines for Intermediate Greek courses.

Draft learning resources
You can learn from these, or develop them further. Please keep in mind that they are drafts though, if reading/studying them.
 * Draft:Original_research/Classics

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User:JManning

My name is Joseph Stanier Manning. I'm from Lafayette, Louisiana and I'm a junior majoring in the Ancient Greek Language and Classics at Tulane University in New Orleans, Louisiana. I hope to begin an introductory course on the Ancient Greek Language and perhaps extend into courses about the history of Ancient Greece and the Near East eventually.

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Portal:Ancient Greek

Introductory Ancient Greek Language
Welcome to the course Introductory Ancient Greek Language.

Greek was the lingua franca of the Mediterranean world from the rise of the Hellenic states after the Persian War until the rise of Rome. Its basis as the uniting factor of the Greek city-states makes knowledge of the language and its history vital to an understanding of the rise of Greek culture in the Western World.

This course will prepare students to read Classical Greek texts by building a solid foundation in rudimentary grammar and vocabulary, as well as give a broad overview of its history. It will begin on a very basic level, so if you have some experience you may choose to move on to a more advanced course, or assist in lesson plans with this one. However, even a seasoned reader of Greek may benefit from a basic review.

If you're coming here with no experience of the Ancient Greek Language then congratulations on your choice to begin learning it! You are in for an exciting adventure that will not only give you knowledge of a new language, but a new way of thinking.

The course will be divided into several important divisions each one hopefully no longer than four lessons followed by a review. The goal is to prepare the student with a foundation in Classical Greek, on which he or she can later build a higher fluency.

Student Questions
If you happen to become stumped or just have a general question out of curiosity, then feel free to message any recent active member involved in creating this course. I intend to add much more to this page, but I don't have a huge amount of time to work on it. I am looking into adding some exercises for translation and adding some study guide outlines to later pages.

Alphabet, Breathing's, Accents, Articles
After having completed these first four lessons hopefully the student will be able to read and write with Greek characters. Some vocabulary will be introduced but the goal will be to familiarize yourself with understanding the alphabet in order to begin learning the language.
 * Lesson 1 - Alphabet
 * Lesson 2 - Breathing's and Accents
 * Lesson 3 - Definite Articles
 * Lesson 4 - Basic Sentences
 * Review

Introduction to Verbs and Nouns

 * Lesson 5 - Present, Active and Middle-Passive, Indicative
 * Lesson 6 - First and Second Noun Declensions
 * Lesson 7 - Basic Prepositions, Negation
 * Lesson 8 - Present Indicative of "To Be"
 * Review

Verb Forms of the Present Active Indicative

 * Lesson 9 - Imperfect, Active, Indicative
 * Lesson 10 - Future, Active, Indicative
 * Lesson 11 - Aorist(1st and 2nd), Active, Indicative
 * Lesson 12 - Perfect, Active, Indicative
 * Lesson 13 - Pluperfect, Active, Indicative
 * Review

This is about the middle point of this course. After this there remain the rest of the first declension, and the third, and various other syntax related concepts such as relative pronouns and compound verbs and such. The remainder of the course will be written after these first three lesson plans have been completed.

Please place any questions or concerns on the discuss page for this portal or message me directly via my talk page, I only recently took up this project after finding it alone for so long, so I'd love to hear your input or address any questions you may have. Wobblywatch (discuss • contribs) 00:23, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Typing Greek Text and Word List

 * Typing Greek Text
 * An Ancient Greek Word List

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User talk:JManning

Welcome to Wikiversity. Thanks for your contributions at Topic:Greek Classics. We need to take care of how we use terms such as "staff". Wikiversity has participants, but not "staff" in the traditional sense. It is often useful to have a list of active participants in Wikiversity development projects (departments) as shown in this template: Template:Department boilerplate. The term "staff" is only used at Wikiversity in the context of community-designated functionaries such as custodians. I have a request, if you have a chance yould you comment on On the Soul: discussion group? Thanks. --JWSchmidt 00:43, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

 * "the necessary changes" <-- Wikiversity is very new and open to experimentation. In my opinion, the first priority is the educational mission. I think that education in a wiki environment depends fundamentally on encouragement of participation by newcomers. Anything we can do with our terminology to promote a sense of collaboration and to invite participation is positive. On the other hand, it is also positive when participants can easily recognize that they are benefiting from the experience of an expert. Somehow we need to find ways to balance openness of participation by all with a system for educational content development that allows experts to contribute high quality information that will guide the wiki-based learning experience of other participants. Personally, I like it when Wikiversity participants take a moment to explain their interests, objectives, experiences and plans. I find such descriptions to be more useful than any self-assignment of a title. In a collaborative learning environment it is good to know who you are interacting with, it helps you know who to trust and pay attention to. Actions are definitive (they "speak louder than mere words"), but a few good words that are backed up by action seem best.

 * "How can I easily write using Greek characters" <-- I'm the wrong person to ask. Beyond the set of greek characters at the bottom of the edit window (just click on them to insert them into the edit window), I have no idea what to do. I'm guessing you might want to enter greek text using your keyboard and I know nothing about that. You can try asking at Colloquium.

 * "I notice that you seem to object to what I assume could be called traditional courses" <-- The objection originated from the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees and their decisions about what constituted an acceptable Wikiversity project proposal (see). I believe it was the intention of the Board to get the Wikiversity community to think about new approaches to online learning that take full advantage of the wiki user interface rather than adapt wiki technology to the needs of traditional courses as they exist in bricks-and-mortar educational institutions. My belief is that as long as we protect Wikiversity participants from unrealistic expectations, we should be free to: "run small experiments, tests, see what works, what doesn't, and be prepared to be flexible and change, and not be too locked into stone about how things should work." The Wikiversity community is trying to discover the best ways to use wiki technology to support education. I believe the key pitfall we must avoid is suggesting in any way to participants that we have a system that involves teacher certification. At all times it must be made clear and it must always remain clear to participants that Wikiversity provides a collaborative learning environment that depends on the best efforts of volunteer contributors. The goal is to create a high quality learning environment, but we are doing "the wiki way", not the traditional way. In my opinion, the Wikiversity community needs to invent new wiki-based ways to attract experts as participants and make sure that high quality learning resources are made available to participants. However, I do not think that Wikiversity participants need to be too concerned about these issues. What is important is that each of us contribute as best we can. If contributing means adding educational content that takes the form of a traditional course, that is welcome. I have never seen anyone's contribution turned away no matter what form it took, even "traditional" or "conventional". After the content is added, other people will then think about ways to adapt the initial contribution to other forms. I have faith that eventually the community will discover what methods of presenting the educational content work best.--JWSchmidt 00:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey this is Nortonthe1st, I'm new here and I appoligieze for accidentally editing your user page, I deleted what I wrote when I realized my mistake. My question was concerning the Persian Wars' collection of lessons, I was wondering If I could take a stab at it. Peace, Norton

More stuff in the future?
Will there be any more additions to Classics? I saw that you've been absent from the site for a long time. Although I have no intention of majoring in the classics (my actual major is mathematics), I still think Greek mythology is pretty cool. I'd understand it if you were bogged down with homework. So if you want to talk to me, you can e-mail me at jhankin1@gmail.com. You could also leave your comment here, and I might still find it. Although I know very little about the Greek language, I know some things about Greek history and the myths, so I can add some stuff if you want. I should encourage my instructor to contribute. If he has time, he might find it fun, or at the very least be eager to pass along his knowledge. --160.36.118.159 15:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Review
The page is to general, probably need to move it to a subpage of the course your working on. Is that the greek lessons?--Rayc 05:38, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I have merged the two existing Review pages into one, which is now: Introductory Ancient Greek Language/Review. The Review should be for general purposes please. Bye for now, Erkan Yilmaz ( my talk page, wiki blog ) 20:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

History of Philosophy
Hello, this is Alex beta from the School of Philosophy. It has been suggested that The history of Philosophy (Ancient Philosophy) in the School of Philosophy should be coordinated with the School of Classics. If you have any thoughts on this, please let me know. (Alex beta 15:11, 23 December 2006 (UTC))

Greek Font
Hi! i don't know a great deal about computers but this site can get them for word documents along with the accents and breathing marks. I don't know if it could somehow be used on wikiversity. Storeye 10:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

CLAS 101, School of classics
I've strted work on this one. How do I sound? Laleena 17:30, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Introductory Greek?
I wanted to say, excellent job on the Introductory Greek course! Were you planning to do any more work on it? I have a whole two people in Topic:Biblical Studies waiting on the edge of our seats for it! :-D I just wanted to give my note of encouragement, and I completely understand the weight of classes, if that's the issue. Thanks for what you have contributed,
 * --Opensourcejunkie 14:29, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi
Hi jmanning. i just wanted to introduce myself as I am interested in learning ancient greek (and languages in general). I want to say that in addition to content, i feel that a consistent layout is also very important and i want to say that this course looks very promising. Also, I'm curious, how different is ancient greek from modern greek and how easy would it be to learn modern greek after learning ancient greek. Cheers. --RMFan1 17:55, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Intro Ancient Greek
First of all, thanks for taking time to do this. I like the way you lay everything out in tables while using english examples instead of using the phonetic transcription system.

However, I noticed you moved on to lesson 5 without lesson 4 being complete.

Here is a link that might help with typing in greek. http://www.lexilogos.com/clavier/ellenike.htm

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Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Carol. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Carol~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:04, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:Carol~enwikiversity


text:
User talk:Nirman~enwikiversity

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Nirman. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Nirman~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:17, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:Nirman~enwikiversity


text:
User talk:KristianMolhave~enwikiversity

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called KristianMolhave. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name KristianMolhave~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:13, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

title: User talk:KristianMolhave~enwikiversity


text: User talk:Monodb

title: User talk:Monodb


text: User talk:Harifx

title: User talk:Harifx


text: User talk:Carlos SV

title: User talk:Carlos SV


text: User talk:Bradbowen6160

title: User talk:Bradbowen6160