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List of interested course developers
Please add your name and state how you intend to contribute, for example with Beta testing, fact-checking, development of quizzes, discussion problems, practical exercises, etc. See also the to-do list at the talk page.
 * Mange01 13:33, 17 November 2008 (UTC) - has developed the quizzes and translated and extended some of these learning resources to a Swedish university course on Wikipedia that started in September 2009. Originally I intended to develop most of the course materials here, but since so little input appeared here I gave up that strategy. But thanks for the fact-checking - it was helpful.
 * Jtneill - Talk - c 09:31, 18 November 2008 (UTC) - interested onlooker; maybe help with organisation
 * --JoliePA 13:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)Jolie - interested onlooker; currently focusing on understanding what activities create a good wikiversity course.
 * Piotrus 21:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC) - interested in teaching this in a year or so, will try to continuously update/expand/improve it.
 * Simpy3 of wikipedia Interested in fact checking
 * Copyleft 10:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC) Interessed in interlanguage courses.
 * Abd (discuss • contribs) 16:56, 14 September 2013 (UTC) There is something missing from Wikipedia that is possible on Wikiversity. Let's consider that.

University course on Wikipedia
(This section is copied from w:Wikipedia talk:School and university projects, and provides a background to the web page.)

I am currently developing a Swedish university course on Wikipedia as a phenomenon, and on the usage of wikis. I wonder what similar courses and course material that exists. I intend to develop quizzes/multiple choice questions, Wikipedia edit assignments, a MediaWiki administration lab assignment, video seminars, video conference discussion assignments, text forum discussion assignments, essay assignments, etc, but I first want to check if I there are som already existing material that I can share. A majority of my course material will be open source.

The name of the course is "Informatics A, Wikipedia - Authoring, Reliability and Technology". It will be offered as a distance course, first time during fall 2009. The extent is 7.5 ECTS credits, i.e. 20 weeks part-time studies, corresponding to 5 weeks full-time studies. The language of instruction is Swedish.

Suggestion for content:
 * How to edit and administrate a wiki.
 * How students, teachers, librarians, journalists, etc, can use and relate to Wikipedia and wiki technology.
 * Discussion about to what extent it is considered acceptable to use Wikipedia as a source in an academic essay.
 * The major criticism against Wikipedia.
 * How to measure and improve the quality of Wikipedia.
 * Example of research on Wikipedia.
 * Technology trends

Suggestion for course literature:
 * Lennart Guldbrandsson, Så fungerar Wikipedia, September 2008.
 * Reference literature: John Broughton, Wikipedia – the missing manual, 2008.

Any comments are welcome. Mange01 (talk) 21:47, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

 * See WP:ACST for a good coverage of academic papers on Wikipedia. I'd very much like to see your final syllabi and other materials for that course; you may consider using Wikiversity to develop it collaboratively with others (I'd be happy to help!). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 00:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for encouraging response, and helpful links!
 * A first step would be to collect links to existing course material on Wikipedia and wikis. Where can we put that link list? I have not found any existing wiki page or wikiversity project with that aim.
 * I have an idea that this course one day could function as some kind of wikipedia/mediawiki "administrator certification course". Is that a realistic idea? So it would be helpful to agree on a list of wiki terminology that an administrator must have full understanding of. Then I can author quizzes that checks this understanding.
 * Next step might be to develop parts of the course material collaboratively. It would be an interesting new experience.
 * There is no Swedish wikiversity name space, so I intend to put my Swedish course material on a local wiki, and on a local Moodle server. But perhaps some of my course material can be written in English and placed at wikiversity. Mange01 (talk) 11:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Starting a new course page on wikiversity would be a good first step. I n There is some interesting material here for early intro to wikis, there is also useful material on wikibooks - .I think a good idea is to take this tour and start a new course on Wikiversity, where we can work on the materials for the course you've planned. I do agree that a list of terms is a useful subproject, although I think some may already exist (and if it doesn't it makes a notable article to create on Wikipedia - like Glossary of blogging). I am not sure how to go about starting a Swedish wikiversity - and I couldn't help with it as I don't know the language - but I am sure it could be done. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 17:54, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Thnx for great ideas! I have actually compiled a list of useful video seminars, slides, assignments, etc, at Wikipedia, and started to develop quiz questions. Feel free to improve it further. In case I see that others contribute, I will continue to develop a major part of the course there, otherwise it will be advantageous for me to keep most of my material to myself. Mange01 (talk) 17:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I think that page needs to be restructured as a course, currently it reads like a giant list of see alsos. I will be happy to contribute, but it needs to be restructured (and perhaps, moved/renamed). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 18:37, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Page organisation
If this is supposed to be a course about Wikipedia, shouldn't we start with some syllabi? At the very least, some description of the course and objectives? --Piotrus 18:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanx for your contributions Piotrus!
 * I have suggested a syllabus at Wikipedia/syllabi. Don't hesitate to improve it.
 * The "learning resources" section of this page serves as an inventory of existing learning resources related to Wikipedia, and is organised after resource type rather than subtopics. I believe such a list is useful - I have not found any link collection to videos, lecture notes and assignments anywhere else.
 * A hierarchical list of resources organised after subtopics, course modules or sections might also be developed, but I don't know if it should be placed at this page or somewhere else at Wikiversity. Quizzes and other learning materials developed at Wikiversity should have file names or paths that reflects the course organisation.
 * There are other Wikiversity pages and projects with similar aim, for example Wikipedia service-learning courses where course modules and topics are suggested. However, most of these projects have generated very little course material and provides very few external links. Should we place our course material there? Hopefully their members can come here and discuss the issue. Mange01 20:57, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Organization of all the wiki related resource pages, courses, portals, categories, topics and projects etc
No IMHO, I don't think you should do much over at the service courses until you have defined this course thoroughly. You are developing content rapidly, I appreciate that. I am would like to be a prospective student.--JoliePA 14:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I want to somehow involve those who have started the development several overlapping courses, but in most cases seems to have given up. Can this project inspire them to continue the work? Mange01 22:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Consider perhaps moving Wikipedia to Wikipedia studies and building there. Category:Wikipedia studies already has some useful material. The Wikipedia page might be a kind of portal-type eventually, with a basic description and links to more information, courses, etc. Just a thought. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 12:08, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, some info might go or come from Topic:Wikipedia studies, which would be about organisation of Wikipedia study materials, including possibly the participant list. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 12:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * and the "task list". -- Jtneill - Talk - c 12:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I.m. equally humble opinon, there are way too many overlapping Wikiversity pages, portals, etc, related to wiki right now. For example, I don't understand the difference between Category:Wikipedia studies and Category:Wikipedia. Wikipedia and Wiki have similar "see also" lists for the moment. Portals should be wide, so I don't see the point of having one Wikipedia portal, and one Wiki portal. Etc. As you can see I’m a mergist or inclusionist. All pages should have one well-defined aim, and pages that can not be clearly delimited from each other should be merged. Merging courses instead of inventing new ones all the time might make people who developed the old ones motivated to contribute.

 * Right now the Wikipedia page has two aims: (a) Serving as a link list and a repository for all kind of course materials, so that teachers can select materials that fits into their own syllabus, and (b) as a project place for the collaborative development of a specific university level course, which also cover other wikis than Wikipedia. I agree with you that this page should only have one of these two aims, the other should be moved to another page. But I think aim (b) is the one that should be moved.

 * The reason is that I believe that if people enter the Wikipedia article, they don't expect to find a specific course, since "Wikipedia" does not have the character of a course name. I think they need a navigation guide to all Wikipedia related pages on Wikiversirsity, such as the Wikipedia link list, or one of the portals. When I was newcomer to Wikiversity, I found it really hard to navigate at Wikiversity, that's why I compiled the list. The syllabus and assignments should be placed in some other page, with a name that is a course name. One suggestion is Wikis and Wikipedia - authoring, reliability and technology. Even better would be to use an existing course page, or rename one.

 * However, this issue needs a lot of discussion before we do anything. A first step is to link between all related pages, and clarify the aim of each category, portal, project and page.

 * There are too many fantastic plans for courses, still without real content, at Wikiversity. So let's not get stucked on the page organization issue, but prioritise the actual development of exercises, assignments, slide shows and other "real" course materials. Be brave - every suggestion for discussion topic or quiz question is appreciated! Mange01 17:30, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Responding to message here, that project became inactive because it became dominated by a few parties that had what were apparently personal disputes, ending with the blocking of one party and the other parties then left the project. Merging it in and cleaning it up seems a good idea to me, since the issues brought up do have merit in understanding some of the difficulties that have come about on Wikipedia. --SB_Johnny talk 14:44, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Course Invite
I have been thinking alot about what it means to define a wikiversity course.. see the template

I guess my major question is _ is this a course for wikiversity OR is this a course for you swedish university Utilizing information from wikiversity to definte it.

that is a really big difference, because generally you can't really have a TRADITIONAL course here utilizing wikiversity participants. However you CAN have a Traditional course USE wikiversity to communicate and think (this is sometimes called a 'tame audience').

I love to hear from you (and I will assume You ALSO want to begin a wikiversity course)--JoliePA 07:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Thnx for the response!
 * I don't intend to invite my Swedish students here. In case we succeed in attracting a lot of contributing people here, I will use this site for collaborative development of the major part of the course material. Later, I will translate the material to Swedish, supplement it with more material (exams, video conference lectures and seminars etc) and organize the materials the way that suits my needs. The quizzes will be imported or translated into our local Moodle server, where the quiz result will automatically be registered in the grading database. I will either use the Moodle XML based quiz format, or Flash/SCORM based interactive quizzes with drag-and-drop pair matching. Mange01 07:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Textbook(s) on wikis and Wikipedia
Although I find it a little confusing, we should remember that textbooks for courses are developed not on Wikiversity, but on Wikibooks. Currently, Wikibooks has just a table of contents for a proposed book on Wikipedia - it may be useful for some topic ideas for the course. There is some more developed wikibooks on wikis: Wiki Science; Starting and Running a Wiki Website; Wikis in the Classroom and Future Media Topics.--Piotrus 21:27, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Collaborative slides
A big thing in modern courses are presentation slides. As you may or may not know, Google Docs allow collaborative editing of slides. Perhaps we should try it, developing slides for this course? --Piotrus 21:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting idea. Why not?
 * I just wrote a few suggestions for essays. Mange01 21:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

BEST ENCYCLOPEDIA NO DOUBT IS BRITANNICA
Britannica is always neutral unlike wikipedia, seldom gets things right!

many times scientists if they cant explain via encyclopedic way complicated events, they use intelligent design theory to justify their points universe's, scientific, nature's actions! additional info on allsites r 100% truth in regards to lowlywikipedia, it can be found wikipedia-watch.org lol! ALLRIGHT!!!
 * The above edit was reverted without stated cause in 2010 and Markoril was indef blocked, talk page and email access prohibited. It is important that we understand that Wikiversity is not censored, and that actions that create an appearance of censorship should be avoided. Some editors who have been blocked or banned on Wikipedia have become productive and cooperative users here. We give them an opportunity to do this, by discussion, supporting legitimate concerns, and warning where necessary. If Markoril had made that edit to the resource itself, and I'd seen it, I'd have reverted it, moving it to Talk. Blocking is an action of last resort, and even then we will generally leave Talk page and email access open. I'm permanently banned on Wikipedia, but I still have email access there, because I never abused it. On meta, I was blocked for a time with email shut off, and that was reverted by a steward, again, because there had been no abuse. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:31, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * For reference, the site Markoril referred to was http://wikipedia-watch.org, which may have been globally blacklisted at that time, I haven't checked. However, it is not a violation of policy to add a relevant link to a "spam" site, or to similarly mention a blacklisted one. The site is actually linked in the current version of Wikipedia. So if it is currently relevant there, it would also be relevant here on this talk page.
 * (I am not recommending the site, and the post above was not necessarily a valuable contribution to our resource; however, I read it as a possible participant here blowing off some steam. If someone here does nothing but frequently complain about Wikipedia, it would be inappropriate, that's not what Wikiversity is for. But we could, for example, have a resource on Wikipedia criticism. From much history here, we would first need to establish ethical guidelines or be very careful about avoiding personal attacks, etc., and the site mentioned could be considered to contain personal attacks. As the Wikipedia article shows, though, simply mentioning or recommending that site is not a personal attack, nor was it vandalism.)
 * --Abd (discuss • contribs) 01:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Stats need update
Wikipedia has more than six million articles in many languages, including more than 1.5 million articles in the English-language version and more than half a million in the German-language version — these need to be updated as this data. I am not doing it straightaway because I am not sure if it will be okay to update it (considering that in some time even this data will be outdated and it will again need an update, so needing a response). Lightbluerain (discuss • contribs) 11:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

 * @Lightbluerain: Be bold! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 12:27, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Lightbluerain (discuss • contribs) 12:48, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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TRAPEZOIDAL RULE: SIMPLE TRAPEZOIDAL RULE:

As shown in the figure above, we connect approximate the function f by a straight line. This is accomplished by connecting the end points the function. Then we drop perpendiculars from the end points onto the X-axis thus forming a trapezium. The area of this trapezium is said to be the approximate value of $$\displaystyle \int_{a}^{b} f(x) \,dx $$  The formula for simple trapezoidal rule is given by,

$$\displaystyle I_1 = \frac{b-a}{2} \bigg [ f(a) + f(b)\bigg ] $$  $$\displaystyle (Eq. 1) $$ Note: The subscript denotes the number of intervals. Here the subscript is 1 because there is only in interval in case of Simple Trapezoidal Rule.

COMPOSITE TRAPEZOIDAL RULE: In this case, the entire domain is divided into n sub-divisions. We apply the simple trapezoidal rule to each sub-division/panel. The formula for simple trapezoidal rule is given by,

$$\displaystyle I_n = h \bigg [ \frac{1}{2}f_0 + f_1 + \dots +f_{n-1} + \frac{1}{2}f_n \bigg ] $$  $$\displaystyle (Eq. 2) $$ where, h denotes the interval size.(i.e, size of one panel).

[[media: Egm6341.s10.mtg7.djvu | Page 7-2]]  $$ f_i := f(x_i), i=0,1,2 \dots $$  $$\displaystyle (Eq. 1) $$ SIMPSON'S RULE:

As against trapezoidal rule, we use 2nd order polynomial(i.e, parabola) to approximate the function f Similar to Trapezoidal rule, here also we have 2 types of Simpson's rule namely 1.Simple Simpson's rule and 2.Composite Simpson's rule.

SIMPLE SIMPSON'S RULE: The formula is given by,

$$\displaystyle I_2 = \frac{h}{3} \bigg [ f(x_0) + 4f(x_1) + f(x_2)\bigg ] $$  $$\displaystyle (Eq. 2) $$ where, $$\displaystyle h := \frac{b-a}{2}$$ and the two intervals being $$\displaystyle [x_0 ,x _1] \;and\; [x_1,x_2] $$

COMPOSITE SIMPSON'S RULE: The formula is given by,

$$\displaystyle I_n = \frac{h}{3} \bigg [ f_0 + 4f_1 + 2f_2 + 4f_3 +2f_4 + \dots +2f_{n-2} + 4f_{n-1} + f_n\bigg ] $$
 $$\displaystyle (Eq. 3) $$ where, $$\displaystyle n =2k \; and \; k=1,2,\dots $$

NEWTON-COTES FORMULA: This is a more general form used to approximate a function. The Trapezoidal and Simpson's rule are a subset of Newton-Cotes formula.

The procedure here is simple : Step 1 : Approximate the function $$ f(\cdot) $$ using Lagrange interpolation function $$ f_n(\cdot)$$ Step 2: Integrate the function $$ f_n(\cdot) \;\; \Rightarrow I_n = \int f_n(x) \,dx$$

[[media: Egm6341.s10.mtg7.djvu | Page 7-3]]  As above once again we sub-divide the function f. The interpolating polynomial will pass through all these points from a through b. The approximating polynomial is denoted by $$ f_n(x) \; or p_n(x)$$.

 $$\displaystyle f_n(x) = p_n(x) = \sum_{i=0}^{n} l_{i,n}(x) f(x_i)$$
 $$\displaystyle (Eq. 1) $$ $$\displaystyle l_{i,n}(x) = l_i (x) = \prod_{j=0, j \neq i}^{n} \frac{x-x_j}{x_i - x_j}$$
 $$\displaystyle (Eq. 2) $$ $$\displaystyle I_n = \int_{a}^{b} p_n (x) \,dx $$
 $$\displaystyle = \sum_{i=0}^{n}\underbrace{ \int_{a}^{b} l_i (x) \,dx}_{w_i (weight)} f(x_i) $$
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Portal:Regional Anatomy

Welcome to the Wikiversity Department of Regional Anatomy Part of the Division of Anatomy, School of Biology and School of Medicine Regional anatomy is a branch of anatomy concerned with the relationship between various structures within a region of the body. The Department of Regional Anatomy aims to demonstrate these key ideas to students though a series of courses described bellow. These courses are arranged in a temporal fashion, students should follow the flow of courses outlined bellow. Anybody wishing to collaborate on this project should add their name to the "Contributors" section, and add the badge to their user page.

Course List
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Introduction to Regional Anatomy
 * Introduces commonly used anatomical terms and the anatomic position to students.

Overview of Musculoskeletal Anatomy
 * Introduces the muscles and bones within the human body to students.

Overview of Neuroanatomy and Cardiovascular Anatomy
 * Introduces the nerves and blood vessels within the human body to students.

Regional Anatomy of the Upper Limb
 * Aims to give students a clear understanding of the interaction of the various body systems in the upper limb.

Regional Anatomy of the Lower Limb
 * Aims to give students a clear understanding of the interaction of the various body systems in the lower limb.

Regional Anatomy of the Head and Neck
 * Aims to give students a clear understanding of the interaction of the various body systems in the head and neck.

Regional Anatomy of the Abdomen
 * Aims to give students a clear understanding of the interaction of the various body systems in the abdomen.

Regional Anatomy of the Pelvis and Perineum
 * Aims to give students a clear understanding of the interaction of the various body systems in the pelvis and perineum.

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External Resources

 * Wikipedia, Anatomy
 * List of Muscles in the Human Body
 * List of Features of Human Anatomy
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 * Anatomical Nomenclature about Location

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I would like to request probationary custodian privileges. While I have only been contributing since 18-Jun, I feel that I am competent at editing Wikiversity pages, and have an understanding of what Wikiversity is about. I have no other experience in other Wikimedia projects, however I have been exposed to the wiki-markup extensively during assessment at university. While I do enjoy keeping things clean and tidy, I don't intend to be a driving force of the maintenance side things. Rather, I feel the sysop tools will be of great advantage to me during the development of the anatomy side of Wikiversity. I have bright ideas about the learning possibilities here at Wikiversity and wish to create a solid and consistent learning experience for the Anatomy Division. I am also very excited about the ability of "learners" to contribute to the course content itself, many minds make light work. I hold the view that this Wikimedia Project is markedly different from others, and so (while maintaining core values and rules of wikimedia) should not be constrained by them. This means Wikiversity should not hold too much functional fixedness towards the tools given to it as other Wikis have in the past. I would be more than happy to help orientate newcomers, assist members with inquiries, clean up vandalism, and generally tidy Wikiversity, however this will not be a dominant priority of mine. I do not like to instigate, or get drawn into heated debates in Wikiversity or in other aspects of life. I try to convey a steady and passive demeanor in all I do, and will always do my upmost to be a consistently helpful and courteous contributor to Wikiversity. I have not been in contact with any current custodians about mentorship at this moment.

Thank you for your time =Benjamin= ( t ) · ( c ) · ( e ) 07:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Questions and Comments for the Candidate
Dear Benjamin! This is more a comment than a question: The usual approach is that the candidate hangs around Wikiversity for some time (or at least has a solid record on another Wikimedia project) before application for the probationary custodianship. Also if you are nominated by somebody else it comes out better than a self nomination (although both approaches are possible). The good news is that for content development you don't need the custodian tools at all. Maybe you can start with "help orientate newcomers, assist members with inquiries, clean up vandalism, and generally tidy Wikiversity" and re-apply in a few months again. I am sure that if you build up a good background here at WV it won't be a problem to get the probationary status, but this time I feel it is a bit early to do this. But for sure I will follow the advances in the anatomy resource! :) --Gbaor 10:03, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 * That's a good call actually. I should take part a lot more in the community before applying for this position. Basically I'm just after the tools for deleting and moving pages while creating and testing so much stuff. In fact, if you could help me out with these pages: Topic:Department of Regional Anatomy of the Human Body, Department of Regional Anatomy of the Human Body & Anatomy refectory I would be greatly appreciative. I have checked that no pages link to them via Special:WhatLinksHere. I will definitely begin to "help orientate newcomers, assist members with inquiries, clean up vandalism, and generally tidy Wikiversity" for now, as thus far, I have done little of this. Thanks for your handy advice, and sorry if you feel I have wasted your time.
 * All the best,
 * =Benjamin= ( t ) · ( c ) · ( e ) 11:59, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No time waste at all! All of us is here to learn and collaborate. Btw. you can move pages also now as a non-custodian as well with the "move button" (meta:Help:Moving a page). Also you (and anybody else interested) could sign up for How to be a Wikimedia sysop here at WV. For the other stuff we can continue on your talk page. (Sidenote: Everybody wants the Delete button I wanted it as well back in the Custodian days! It seems to give real power, but at the end it is taking more about taking decisions and more work... ) Cheers, --Gbaor 13:33, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Please feel encouraged, Benjamin - as Gbaor says, basically, keep on getting involved, build those anatomy resources, engage with others, ask questions and learn your way around etc. (as you are already doing) so we get to know you know a little more. Then I doubt it will be too much problem for either a mentor to emerge or for your self-nomination to be accepted. WV needs willing content creators and those keen to help manage the wiki content. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:38, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW - there are no official guidelines about this but a very rough guide might be ~1000 edits as solid ground for a custodianship candidacy - . Of course much depends on the nature of the edits (and previous/other experience with wiki), but the way you are editing, I don't think there would be too many concerns at all about good faith and intent, etc. So its really about just getting more experience and knowledge with the non-custodian functionality (which is almost everything). Keep up the editing and engagement and you're well on the way in my humble opinion. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:46, 25 June 2010 (UTC)


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User talk:Ottava Rima/Archive2

Song Parody: Can't Stand Bull
Title: Can't Stand Bull Artist: The Ottavan Empire Composer: Jimmy Kennedy, Nat Simon, Irving Berlin, and Barsoom Tork Associates MySpace Music: Istanbul (Not Constantinople) — They Might Be Giants  Can't stand bull, I'm constantly irritated. Can't stand bull, I'm constantly irritated.  Been a long time now, I'm constantly irritated, Now it's jerkish delight on a slugfest fight.  All the time I'm constantly irritated. Cuz I can't stand bull and I'm constantly irritated.  So if you've come late to my irritated state, You'll be hearing me say, "I can't stand bull!"
 Even Somey's plan was once a punk rock band,
 Why he bagged it I can't say,
 Gomi just liked it better that way.

 So take my word, I'm constantly irritated,
 No you can't go slack being constantly irritated.

 Been a long time now, I'm constantly irritated.
 Why did my irritation get the works?
 That's in nobody's interest but the jerks!

 CopyClef 2011 Jimmy Kennedy, Nat Simon, Irving Berlin, and Barsoom Tork Associates.
 Resurrection Hackware. All songs abused.

Moulton (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

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Comments
I hope you will consider registering, and, as well, naming a proxy, to loosely "represent" you when you are too busy to directly participate. You have long experience and it could be valuable. Thanks. --Abd 18:15, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Comments in Abds nomination for full custodianship
You need to behave civilly to keep editing privileges, regardless of your personal opinions or concerns, or what you think a person's motives or intentions are or have been. -- dark lama  18:23, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Saying someone is obviously a sock isn't a breach of AGF or civility. That has always been the case. Otherwise, every SPI investigation would be met with a block. Darklama, you know this already. The user should be blocked as an obvious sock. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:33, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * How you chose to address the concern is a breach of AGF and civility. The appropriate place to discuss concerns of a sockpuppet is Request custodian action and not in someone's nomination for full custodianship. What action/behavior is of concern and why should be addressed and not who as you did. Third good faith means making a good faith effort to learn what good faith reasons a person could have for participating and sharing what effort you made to do so, and not ruling out possibilities based on speculation of what is or is not possible, or what people are or are not capable of doing. -- dark lama  20:12, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Ottava, while I agree that the person's history here certainly raised some questions, but I don't see any reason to believe that he/she isn't what they claim: simply some friend or acquaintance of Abds from a different haunt. I realize that having poetlister around tends to encourage one to look for puppets under every table (which is of course one of the big problems he causes), but this one doesn't seem to meet the duck test.

You've made your point, so please leave the guy (or gal) alone... you're not going to learn anything by continuing what you've been doing, though you certainly might end up being blocked for the remaining duration of the vote. --SB_Johnny talk 20:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Once Thenub queued the discussion to let the Stewards/Meta matter work out, where did I re-open it or continue it? Seems a little odd for one admin to handle it, then another admin to come hours later, warn people, and exacerbate a dead issue. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what darklama was referring to, I was referring to the continuing tit-for-tat on darklama's talk. I just don't see that going anywhere but downhill (though I suppose it's possible that you'll end up good friends by the end of the day). --SB_Johnny talk 20:55, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Darklama knows I respect him and that I like him, so who cares about the friends thing. I mean, I only said I was disappointed in that he was bothered by me saying that the user was probably a sock. He would probably be bothered by the same template that users use to denote someone who was most likely a sock or a single purpose account merely because they made less than 10 edits before. Those templates are used on Commons, Meta, en.wiki, etc. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Yes you are correct requests for checkuser are made to Stewards at Meta because Wikiversity currently has no CheckUsers. However discussing concerns about a possible sockpuppet and proposing what to do about it is different from requesting that a checkuser take action. You did both. The request for checkuser is in the appropriate place, whereas local mention of concern and proposed action are not. -- dark lama  22:36, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The Custodian board is for Custodian issues only. It is important to notify the discussion of the vote because the user was part of the vote. As I said, it is standard to point out people who have very few edits in every WMF wiki. We use to point it out here too. Ottava Rima (talk) 22:48, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

Ottava, this comment might seem presumptuous because I have almost no experience with Wikiversity and you have a great deal of experience. If it comes across as presumptuous, please accept my apology. I'm not trying lecture you, but just make a suggestion for how you can be more effective. I don't think that there was a problem with your questioning my legitimacy as user - after all, as you pointed out, you had never heard of me, I had practically no record on Wikiversity, and it was surprising that I was voting on a custodianship as one of my first Wikiversity comments. It seems reasonable to question who am I, whether I am a sock puppet, and if not, why I am voting on a custodianship. I think the problem was the way that you raised the issue. Rather than ask any questions to try to determine what was going on, you made some (mistaken) assumptions, declared them to be obviously true, claimed that some true facts (that the contributions to the Polish Wikipedia made by "Rosenberg" weren't made by me) were technically impossible, wrote with a very belligerent tone, and in the face of a clear denial from me, continued to insist that you were right. I believe that it was this belligerent tone, rather than expressing a concern that I might be a sock puppet, that was considered uncivil. I think you could have asked me for more information without making me feel that I was being attacked. If you didn't want to ask me anything because you didn't trust me, you could have quietly done more checking yourself without expressing hostility before you were sure of your facts. I suggest that this sort of approach might serve you better - both in online and in-person communications. Rosenberg 05:31, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

 * Rosenberg, I'm glad to see you share your thoughts on the matter. I hope Ottava Rima will be positively impacted by your comments and be more supportive in the future. Ottava Rima, I agree with Rosenberg's comments. Ottava Rima, I think you need to be more supportive in your comments in the future, per Please do not bite the newcomers. Ottava Rima, I hope you would be disappointed too were someone to accuse you of being an obvious sockpuppet and asked why you haven't been blocked yet, and I hope you would want people to be more supportive in the future too. -- dark lama  06:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

 * As confirmed in mail, the above user's claims about SUL and what is "technically impossible" are not something a new person would know enough about the Wiki to be informed about. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:11, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

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Hello! I am a global sysop. Please contact me here. PiRSquared17 (discuss • contribs) 23:54, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the welcome! PiRSquared17 01:57, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for that! PiRSquared17 03:36, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

My userpage
Thanks for reverting the mindless vandalism, always appreciated <3. --Claritas (talk) 21:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for the vandalism help. -- Cirt (talk) 08:03, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

User:Augusto De Luca and 556 other pages with the same name
Nice to see your question on wikt. Where global sysops were allowed to delete, the pages were deleted with no fuss. Where not allowed, tags were placed. Many of these tags are still sitting in place. Quite a few have been removed, for obvious reasons.

There are global policy issues raised by this sequence. First of all, it appears that five users have been globally locked without any discussion. A global lock seems totally appropriate for the user creating the user pages, but only to stop him, and it should have been done first thing, as soon as it was apparent that something questionable was going on. The user should have been warned, with communication on meta enabled (I think global locks allow users to still access their meta talk page, but I'm not completely certain about that).

What's happening here is that prohibition against self-promotion, which is a limited prohibition, some kinds of what might be considered "self-promotion" are allowed, is being interpreted to prohibit all self-promotion.

Further, there is no policy that I know of about mass-creating user pages. As is mentioned in the RFD, a steward created 800 pages very quickly. That was okay -- and, indeed, it was okay, there was nothing wrong with this. Now, we have SUL. Users are not told that they should restrict their user page creations in any way. They have no warning that if they exceed some unspecified rate of creation, they will be whacked for "spamming."

It's similar to the use of the spam blacklist to whack massive additions of content, cross-wiki. It's useful with spam. But what if the mass additions are not spam? I know a poster boy for this issue, it's lyrikline.org. Long story. The additions of links to lyrikline.org -- all of them were legitimate, the blacklisting administrator disagrees and pointed to one link that was debatable. I actually restored that link, later, it was fine! -- were reverted globally by antispam volunteers. Lyrikline.org is a prize-winning nonprofit web site, it's actually reliable source on poets. The problem? Well, the pace at which the links were being added. There isn't any actual policy on that, it's all seat-of-the-pants, ad hoc judgment. And the user adding them was connected with an IP that was the lyrikline office. But I don't think checkuser was run, and the user may or may not have been an employee of lyrikline. More likely, simply a volunteer. They certainly were not selling anything, they are a collaboration between the German government and universities.

Took over two years to get that delisted from the global blacklist. I became a very unpopular figure -- "wikilawyering" -- for requesting it and bringing it up occasionally. They absolutely do not like any sort of community supervision.

They -- and global sysops like you -- do a great deal of extremely valuable work, but ... do these technical volunteers own the projects? Or is this a *community* affair?

I'm not taking this to meta yet, I want to get all my ducks in a row. I think you are aware that there are those on meta who would block me in a flash if given the excuse.

But Wikiversity is the one wiki (or maybe set of wikis) where academic freedom is respected, where we can actually suggest to a "spammer" that they make some positive contributions. Real spammers never take us up on this, because they never look back. Once in a while we may get someone promoting their own web site, for example, who actually could make legitimate contributions. Augusto De Luca is an astonishingly good photographer. He seems to be able to convince a lot of notable Italians to let him photograph them. And he's been releasing a lot of images for free re-use. Instead of being grateful that he makes himself available with a user account, we globally lock him. Had he violated policy, had policy been followed and the global lock was necessary -- as something maintained -- okay, you gotta do what you gotta do. But policy was not followed, and users with no warnings, no history of disruption, and sometimes not even editing any more, are being globally locked. Allegedly "paid spammers." With no evidence of that, other than being SPAs interested in the photographer.

Had all this behavior happened on en.wikipedia, that would simply not be possible. But because it's cross-wiki, with little governing policy, it can happen quickly, and without on-wiki discussion.

Slowly, over the years, as people learn about this, because it happened to a friend of theirs, the community image of Wikipedia is being trashed. I talk to academics and many are disgusted by Wikipedia. Do we care? --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:50, 28 March 2014
 * To answer your question, locked users cannot even log into their accounts, let alone determine why they were locked and appeal it. This is a fatal flaw in the CentralAuth (well, it's by design) and GlobalBlocking extensions. It is only possible to block IPs (15294). There is almost surely no policy against mass-creating userpages. In fact, at least two stewards have run bots to do this for people on request. I also wrote a script people can use to do this. Nobody complained about that (in fact, some people liked it a lot). Hopefully it will be made obsolete by 14759, Global-Wiki, or something else. I read your concerns about the spam blacklist on Meta (and the other site ). Was an attempt even made to communicate with Augusto or the other accounts? I agree we should not be locking accounts because they look like spammers, without even trying to contact them. It is a shame. He could have contributed a lot to Commons and other wikis (if it really is him). PiRSquared17 (discuss • contribs) 22:40, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have seen no evidence that anyone made an attempt to contact the user. I've attempted to communicate on issues like this, on meta, and I'm generally treated as a hostile outsider. You can see the attitude in our RFD, from one steward. I don't want to make it more difficult for the antispam people, far from it. I want to make it easier. If safeguards are built into the system, locking could be done like blocking -- or like blocking should be -- it should actually be *easy* to block or lock, and then to undo it. The technical problems are actually easy to fix, even if the developers are covered with cobwebs. What it takes is intention, and that takes thought and that takes discussion and these people hate discussion, or at least too many do. Part of it is a language problem.
 * We can fix this situation, I know how to do it, but if I do it on my own, I'm dead meat. That is the reality at meta. I've gotten locks reversed and web sites delisted from the blacklist, I know the policy and the practices.
 * Personally, I'm taking it slow. I did act quickly here, because Wikiversity is a place where I know the general community consensus, and I can anticipate that, very likely, in spite of stewards popping in with opinions, this community will keep the page. I started a resource to study the work of this photographer. A real class led by the photographer is not impossible, but it might have to be on it.wikiversity. I really don't know what the photographer's intent was.
 * You are correct to be cautious about assuming it was the photographer running the account. From what I've seen, though, the claim that the edits were done by bot doesn't seem to be founded in actual fact, it's based on certain assumptions, and I was appalled to see that "evidence" in the RfC. A global sysop doesn't know what is displayed in CA, assumed that the time there is the edit time. Definitely not. It's possible the photographer paid someone to make those edits for him. And I can see the immediate reaction to this: Paid Editing!!!! Horrors!!! Ban them!!!! But that's a shallow response. For a user editing their own user page, where a conflict of interest is blatantly clear, one could pay anyone to do it, it is not contrary to any policy. The ideas about paid editing have to do with an entirely different situation.
 * A steward has also locked four other accounts, calling them "paid editors." (See User:Abd/Augusto De Luca. The only evidence is that they were single-purpose accounts interested in this photographer. One account created a boatload of articles on the photographer. But he didn't flood the wikis, and nearly everywhere, the articles stuck and others have edited them. Was he paid? We absolutely don't know that. They call this spam, but if the articles followed policy, it wasn't spam. SPAs are allowed to edit. Those four editors would have attracted no attention if not for the mass creation of user pages. And they played no role in that. It was merely that a steward looked for who had been editing the articles using the images, already with "Spam" in his mind.
 * I've filed my share of global lock requests, and I've opposed them, sometimes successfully. I know the standards. Had a discussion been started on the Steward request page, say by me, for these four accounts, locks would have been denied out of hand as "stale." They have globally locked inactive accounts. One of them had only edited it.wikipedia. Not cross-wiki at all. Absolutely, that request would have been denied.
 * There are no policy pages to guide global sysops and stewards, in these matters, that I've seen. There is no community that seriously watches for abuse; the few users who do it are commonly teetering on the edge of being blocked.
 * We can fix this one matter, my opinion. (If we can't fix it, I'd say the community, then, is beyond repair. But I haven't concluded that.) The user pages are not that important. The user did not enable email, which would have made them highly useful. However, the major user who "promoted" the images does have email enabled, I will try to contact him. And then we may be able to get communication going. I have, in the past, managed to facilitate local acceptance of globally banned users, users who were under a lock. It simply takes consensus.
 * Global locks are not global bans. But I've seen stewards who think they are. Now that there is a global ban policy, there is some protection.
 * I want to make it clear that I think it was *proper* to lock the Augusto account, temporarily, until communication was established. (That does mean that I agree that Augusto was violating policy. Part of the problem is that there is no policy.)
 * I'm worried that the global sysops and stewards who have acted here don't seem to realize that this wasn't ordinary, blatant spam. If they can't tell the difference between spam and self-promotion, they aren't steward or sysop material. It's crazy, that steward pointed to the Wikipedia user page guideline, seeming to think that it explained why the behavior was bad. Bu that guideline clearly allowed what this user did, as to a Wikipedia page.
 * The *only* issue was creating so many of those accounts at once. We have a secret law, it is not documented, but it's enforced by antispammers. I've seen many get badly bitten by it, who obviously did not expect that what they were doing was any problem at all. They respond with perplexity. When I saw the response of Lyriker (the "lyrikline.org spammer"), it actually made me cry. He clearly didn't understand the problem, but he stopped when he was warned, and started to remove the links he'd added, and then gave up after not very long. I know how he felt. "But I was only trying to help!" They blocked him (on en.wiki and on one other, as I recall) and blacklisted the site anyway. An absolutely fantastic web site, truly wonderful, highly useful for Wikipedia, etc.. (He wasn't locked.) Spammers are Evil! In the struggle against Evil, sure, sometimes innocent people get hurt, but we can't let Evil win!
 * I have not taken this to "that other site." That's because I'm in the middle of researching it, and the situation is very complex. Before I'd go to meta with what I find, though, I would probably comment there. That site is read by many high-level functionaries, and I'm respected there, generally, and so I'm not going to barge in like Don Quixote, alone against the evil windmills.
 * I can't resist on more comment. "Wikipedia is not a battleground." But I assume you have seen the home page of WikiProject Spam. Do you know what happens when a battleship off the coast of some country fires all those guns? --Abd (discuss • contribs) 00:08, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Global sysop help needed
In documenting the sequence of events in the Augusto De Luca affair, it could be important to know the timings of events, particularly the timing of the original edits, and the tagging actions for files later deleted. On a subpage of User:Abd/Augusto De Luca, I am setting up lists of the user pages, and, where an ordinary user can access the information, whatever I can find. What I can't find will be indicated there, and a global sysop can jump to the pages involved, and would, I assume, be able to read file creation time, and other relevant times.

I don't yet know that this information is important, but am putting out a feeler to see if you might be willing to help, should it become important.

I'm amazed to see how many quickly jump to conclusions here. I think it comes from antispam burnout. I've been told by administrators that this happens to them, that they start to see spammers and COI editor underneath every appearance. Once one has a visceral response to spam, it will start to color everything, that's how the brain works. So, then, one pulls together a little evidence that makes something look a certain way, that confirms and rationalizes the emotional response, and doesn't bother to actually check it.

My training is in science, and the motto of my Cal Tech physics professor was "don't fool yourself, because you are the easiest person to fool."

I've spent over two full days documenting this stuff, and still consider my conclusions preliminary and incompletely substantiated.

I am assuming good faith on the part of the antispammers. However, I am also assuming good faith on the part of Augusto De Luca and the others.

I'm an old-school Wikipedian, basically. Banned on enwiki there quite precisely for that, for defending the community against involved administrators. Successfully. It turns out that taking administrators to ArbCom and being confirmed by ArbCom as to what I claimed is very hazardous to one's wikihealth. I was warned about this by a highly reputable and experienced user, that if I filed an RfC on an administrator, I'd be banned. She cosigned that RfC. I was banned, as a result of a sequence of events that began there. She wasn't. She had widespread support, I didn't. It's funny, they blamed me, not her. See, I was considered an "outsider." A "wikilawyer." A "troll," and other nice names.

It's still going on. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 19:59, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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Human Legacy Course/The Ancient Near East (4000 BC - 550 BC)

Historians use the term Ancient Near East to refer to a number of cultures that developed in Southwest Asia before about 500 BC. This region has often been called the Cradle of Civilization, because the world’s first civilizations developed there. People of the Ancient Near East were the first to develop writing, to use the wheel, and to form huge empires.

Throughout history, the environment has influenced civilizations, and people have changed the environment. In this week, you will study the relationship that developed between human beings and their environment in the ancient Near East.

Let's Begin!


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User:KYPark/Hi Ottava Rima

The following section Hi Ottava Rima was
 * originally included in User talk:Ottava Rima,
 * lastly talked by Ottava Rima (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC),
 * hurriedly archived into obscurity by Ottava Rima (talk) 18:18, 23 June 2010 (UTC) by replacing it as follows:
 * Discussion was about a new namespace to do stuff that isn't really determined as to scope. Proposals and such on the matter should go on Colloquium. Discussion should go there. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Colloquium
 * Colloquium

 * See also
 * User talk:Ottava Rima/Archive
 * See the details in the second last section Hi Ottava Rima.
 * User talk:Ottava Rima
 * User talk:Sj

Hi Ottava Rima
Thank you for visiting my user page. I wish you could do me justice and help me a lot.

May I propose via you the creation of a "Cite:" or the like namespace that would work similar to the "Template:" namespace, that is, on the basis of transclusion?

As the latter is coded as, so the former could be done as, e.g.: , or

which then would be replaced or transcluded by:

Bush, Vannevar (1945). "As We May Think." Atlantic Monthly (July) pp. 101-108

which is the includeonly content of the Cite:Bush V 1945 AWM page. Sincerely yours, --KYPark 08:46, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * You would need to have a lot of entry options (Author Name=, Author Article=, Work Name=, Work Article=, etc). Is that what you want? Ottava Rima (talk) 14:03, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

No, I suppose not. First have a look at World Brain. Then notice the following passage is transcluded selectively from that page simply by virtue of :

Pay no attention to the selectiveness but the transclusion itself, which is all that is needed in my proposal for a new "Cite:something" namespace, eg, "Cite:World Brain" that would transclude like the "Template:something" namespace, eg, Template:Navigate 20c as is used at the bottom of User:KYPark/1980. Given such a new namespace to control the citation data, aka, metadata, the naming rule should be set up. The best way would be using the author name and the publication year, eg, "Wells HG 1938" that may be further specified by adding "WB" for "World Brain," hence Cite:Wells HG 1938 WB rather than Cite:World Brain using the title, eg, "World Brain" which is often too long. Still too confusing, just pass by (or to the computer system developer). --KYPark 03:58, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
 * If you want a new namespace that works like that, you would have to submit something into the WMF. We don't handle that level of code here. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:16, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

 * It seems fair enough that I have to submit my proposal to the WMF. Indeed it would be great if all Wiki sisters could share the "Cite:" namespace as well as the "Image:" namespace. Nevertheless, I thought it could be a matter of Wikiversity's autonomy as well as the "Wikiversity:" namespace, for example, especially should it be needed for Wikiversity in particular, rather than elsewhere. But I would insist no more. Excuse me for all I've caused you. Thanks a lot for your time. --KYPark 01:27, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I honestly don't know anyone who has access to the source could and could alter the code to adapt to your needs. You could try User:Sj, as he is connected to the Foundation. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:12, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your link to User:Sj, though I'm much more concerned with Wikiversity than WikiMedia at the moment. Someday I may edit Proposal for a referential strategy aiming to make Wikiversity a greater success than any other WM projects, believe me or not. As such, then, when the red link gets blue, it would better be brought to the attention of Wikiversity's top management. For me, men make reference and inference in a vital way, hence worth the two learning pillars. Wikipedia would rather make reference to the neutral third-party view but no original inference or research (NOR). However, neutral reference would be much better than the reliable third party "from nowhere" that may be nowhere! The reader should finally judge the neutrality or whatever of information rather than the intermediary. Such is called the "user-centered" perspective in information science. From this, the "Cite:" namespace could serve as a Wikiversity's strategy of choice, I wish. Sorry to make this sophisticated inference. --KYPark 02:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

This sounds like a typical suggestion for a new namespace, that requires discussion and proof of consensus by the Wikiversity community, and than a bug can be filed to have it done if there is support. That is neither a code nor a WMF matter. -- dark lama  02:31, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Darklama, the question would be if it would even be feasible, as bugzilla deals with the code changes and those who work with WMF are over at bugzilla. We can't just proposal/pass things that may not actually be supportable by the software. :) Ottava Rima (talk) 03:11, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Creating new namespaces is very much supported by the software. Wikiversity already has 2 or 3 more than the default. -- dark lama  03:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * And they can do what he wanted? Perhaps I just can't really grasp the mechanics of his request to see it. I'm not a technology/computer person, so, it isn't really my area. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:20, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Yes. The content of any page from any namespace can be included/transincluded on another page. I think they just want a dedicated namespace for cited sources, nothing particularly different/significant/special about that from a software perspective. -- dark lama  11:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I know how the use of template works, but doesn't he want to have it connected to Wikipedia? See above in his examples. I was figuring that the space would have to work like File, where it transcludes from Wikipedia? Ottava Rima (talk) 13:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I think he/she mentioned that it would be nice if all projects could share the Cite: namespace like how the File: namespace works with files from Wikimedia Commons, after your comments about the need to ask the WMF. I think he/she is more interested or focused on how the namespace could immediately benefit Wikiversity though more than whether all projects share it. Anyways what KYPark wants could be something worth getting clarification on, I got that what KYPark really wanted was Cite just for Wikiversity, but would be willing to go further with it if it requires going to the WMF. -- dark lama  16:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Actually, Wikipedia could benefit from a Cite: namespace, very much. A page in a WP namespace would include the citation information, all except for page number, perhaps (if it's to an article, of course, it would include the page numbers for the whole article). Categories could be placed on the page to indicate the category of source, which could include the results of discussions as to whether or not the source is reliable for various purposes. An MfD on a Cite page would be arguing that there is no possible use of this source anywhere on Wikipedia, not even on Talk pages. Because if it's a "fringe source," for example, it would be tagged as such, and history would show that it had been tagged. And the talk page would then contain discussion and process regarding the usability of the source, and, of course, Links Here would tell anyone quickly where the source is used, when the Cite space comes into common usage. The real point here is to create a "library" of annotated and categorized sources! --Abd 18:12, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Outdent: "if all projects could share the Cite: namespace like how the File: namespace" That is what I thought, therefore, it would need to be a WMF thing. Do you understand why I said to contact the foundation about it? Ottava Rima (talk) 22:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * You suggested contacting the foundation before he/she mentioned anything about the Cite: namespace acting how the File: namespace acts. If that is what he/she wants than he/she can fill out a bug report making that suggestion, or suggest it on the strategy wiki. If all he/she wants is to suggest the creation of the Cite: namespace on English Wikiversity, bring it up for discussion and consensus on the Colloquium. My point is KYPark's original comment was simple: a suggestion that English Wikiversity should have a Cite: namespace, which is a English Wikiversity issue not a foundation issue. -- dark lama  22:47, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I think you have things backward. Wikiversity cannot vote on a namespace for a database that does not exist. Wikimedia would have to approve of said Commons like database before a namespace could even be feasible. If Wikimedia refuses to approve of such a database, then it doesn't matter how many people here that may find it useful. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:38, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

 * WM may not approve such a new namespace or database so that the WV community need not even discuss how vital it would be here regardless of elsewhere. Is that what you mean, Ottava Rima? Even if WV should not vote on it, WV should look for its own strategy for survival and do its best to realize it, I believe, as darklama and perhaps most may well do.

 * And, In response to my comment "I thought it could be a matter of Wikiversity's autonomy as well as the 'Wikiversity:' namespace, for example," you might have mentioned the matter of WM approval, instead of your excuse "I honestly don't know anyone who has access to the source ... and could alter the code to adapt to your needs." --KYPark 05:25, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 * Wikimedia deals with the code, and I sent you to Sj as he would know who within the Foundation could handle it. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 * How do you think Wikiversity got the School, Topic, and Portal namespaces? Namespaces do not require a new database or changes to an existing database. Wikimedia leaves the decision of what namespaces to have up to individual projects, so Wikiversity simply needs to show consensus. KYPark wasn't asking for a Commons like database, just a new namespace. The idea of Commons like database didn't come into the picture until after you told KYPark that permission had to be obtained from Wikimedia. You seem to be missing there are two distinct ideas here, and I think its pointless to urge with you who is getting things backwards. -- dark lama  15:04, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I am unsure where either School, Topic, or Portal namespaces are connected to a non-Wikiversity project (i.e. Commons) in the way Cite is desired to be. We would need Foundation approval to request the new project, then the individual projects can accept it or not. This is not a Wikiversity issue yet as there is nothing for Wikiversity to accept. Feasibility comes before action. Ottava Rima (talk) 16:43, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Might I suggest that Ottava Rima considers moving this to the Colloquium? That has probably become the appropriate venue for this discussion now but I'll leave it for Ottava to decide whether and how to move this. Adambro 16:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

[The End]

Content marking and parking

 * What are marking and parking?
 * Content : Wells, H. G. (1938). World Brain. Doubleday, Doran & Co., Garden City, NY.
 * Marking : Wells HG 1938
 * Parking

Strategic considerations

 * For reference to be made easily and precisely.
 * For pages to serve as the grass-roots or bottom-up building blocks of the documentation network.
 * For quality to surpass the other citational systems, especially of full-automation and imprecision, such as CiteSeer, ACM Portal, and the like.
 * For the social network and the small-world network to become more viable and visible.

Additional contents
== Authors == == Table of Contents == == Abstract == == Extracts == == Critiques == == References ==

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User:Jtneill

About me

Hello. My name is James Neill (he/him). I live in Canberra, Australia.

I am passionate about open academia which means that I like to share knowledge openly.

I work as an Assistant Professor in the Discipline of Psychology at the University of Canberra, Australia.

Here on English Wikiversity, I am a custodian and bureaucrat. I've made over 70,000 edits here since 2005 (statistics about my Wikiversity edit history (xtools)).

Currently, I teach a 3rd-year undergraduate psychology unit called motivation and emotion and a 4th-year Honours unit about research methods in psychology. Previously, I've taught personality and individual differences, social psychology, and survey research and design in psychology. Here is my teaching philosophy.

My research expertise includes outdoor education and green exercise. More broadly, I am interested in positive psychology and environmental psychology.

I like exploring, mountain biking, and permaculture gardening.

Maybe we can connect?

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