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'''Thank you for visiting my blog page, I am known as Thuvack here at Wikiversity.This is an "Open Blog". Feel free to add your own comments. Please sign anything you add: everything that is not signed is by this user.''' This Page/sub-page and all other pages related to me are part of Wikiversity and are released under GNU Licence. Why I keep this Blog:

I generally spend a lot of time here at wikiversity. I use wikiversity as my study companion site. like everything wiki can be daunting at the begining, but you master it as time goes on. I use this blog as a learning journal. Anything i think I need to remember in here I jot down somewhere in my user page. If it is really meaningful I log it here in my blog. maybe it will be meaningful to others who may read this blog. I also keep a blog for momento of time spent here. Isn't it time you kept a blog as well? I would like to know what you are thinking every now and then. Copy this link and paste it into your aggregator (e.g. Juice Receiver, Bloglines) to stay up to date with Thuvack's Blog at Wikiversity.

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User:Thuvack/Mind-Logs/2008 July

July-24-2008:Templates
I have done a considerable amount of work towards developing the Xitsonga Wikipedia,lately. Because the community/project is still in it's infancy, I have had to apply for sysop priveledges(Out of necesity). I was granted temporary Adminship since there is not a big enough community for the voting process. During my first few cleaning-up tasks, I found my-self writting up a lot of my favorite templates like Robelbox. I got a lot of red-links instead of what I expected.

That is when I realised just how tedious this wikipedia thing is going to be. I need to start everything from scratch!. So for the next weeks (As and when I get time ) I will be transferring(See my previous blog on Code and translating) a lot of Templates that have made editing wikiversity almost automated, to the Xitsonga Wikipedia.

This made me realise that every Template used here at wikiversity, is not an embedded functionality of the wiki enviroment. Someone had to spend some time to write and test these templates. As we make these great strides into the future, we must take time to reflect on what has been achieved sofar.

My salute of the week goes to the Fathers of wikiversity (You know who who you are) for their efforts in setting up this enviroment that we have come to take as a matter of fact. The next time you use a template, how about visiting its page and having a look at it's code? It is worthwhile-- Thuvack 15:16, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

22-July-2008:Code re-use
While going through some edits and polishing currently going on for Electric Circuit Analysis in preparation of it's entrance to the featured content page, I was reminded of the day I joined Wikiversity. I had good intentions and desire to improve the School of Electrical Engineering. There was one problem However, I had no exposure to the Wiki markup. I had done a bit of Html Mark up for my second year in Programming and Java. My first edit was very ambitious and almost disasterous! I tried to code a half day's worth for a page in 30 minutes! the result was very disheartening, needless to say.

Then on my way home I remembered one principle of Object Oriented Principle for Class creation. "Code re-use". A simple yet very useful principle, there is no need to re-invent the wheel. Before you waste a considerable amount of time coding, you need to find out if there is no existing Code to help you achieve what you're trying to achieve. For big projects this may actually save you a lot of precious time.

So I came back the next day determined to learn about the wiki mark-up. I looked at the mainhelp section which had a good basic explanation of most used wiki mark-up. I spent a few weeks experimenting with the mark-up I found in the help section. That unfortunately does not show the power of those simple mark-ups. So a month or two later, I tried to discipher the code used in Portal:Engineering. I clicked on the Edit this page link and I selected the whole code copied it to a text file then printed it. I went through it when I got home, I could see where it was going, but I could not understand the concerpt of Box headers and footers and the sub-page thing.

One day I decide to go back to the main help page and I went through the intermediate and advanced editing page. There I found the tutorial like resource prepared by Robert Elliott. I liked the layouts used and the presentation style. I decide to use these to make up my user page, and the more I used it, the faster I got, And I did not have to do the whole code from scratch!. I looked at the Courses in Filmmaking and I got some Ideas on lesson layout and basic navigation. This you will notice has become standard format for all my recent lessons and courses I am currently incolved with.

I feel that this principle is the whole idea behind wiki,Code re-usability. You shouldn't have to be an expert for you to be able to do descent looking Lesson pages in a wiki enviroment.So think before spending hours coding (there is probably an existing Code for what you are trying to do). And if there isn't Then after coding it, do tell the rest of us about it ;-). Happy wiki editing... Thuvack 09:40, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

18-July-2008:Any Thing Called "Wiki-Over Commitment"?
Yesteday I created my user account at a Xitsonga Wikipedia and at Betawiki, I am really interested in helping out there. It is My home language and close to my heart. I am just abit worried of burning myself up by being over commited. I have done a resoable amount of work Here at wikiversity and that will remain my major contribution to Open learning for some time as it deals with my day to day job and career. I am afraid I might get carried away with the Wikipedia thing ( I have done some mind-maps onit already! ). I have also sensed that there is some sort of Tension between Wikipedians and Wikiversitarians. I guess I will just have to exercise some level of self restraint. Such is life... :-)Thuvack 06:20, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Tension ? What happened ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 15:58, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe my view is outdated, but that is the feeling I got after going through the comments of most users about the closure of Betawiki. Wikipedians seem for the Idea and Wikiveritarians against the Idea. I am against the idea being a contributor to Betawiki myself.Thuvack 07:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I don't know where the supporters of the proposal are working mostly (that would cost me now more time to research), but probably if they would understand why we want to keep beta alive they might see the world different. Often times it is just because people try not to understand others motives :-( Theoretically we all work for the same goal in the end. We could start/extend a learning resource for this topic - I am sure. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 16:19, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

17-July-2008:Mail days Gone forever?
This topic makes me feel older than I actually am. Remember back in the days when letters/mail was everybody's most reliable form of communication. My last letter was addressed to my Pen friend on the other side of the world- Japan! some 8 years ago. Unfortunately we've since lost contact of each other. She at the time had no e-mail and neither did I.

It was suggested during the early nineties, that e-mail would completely supercede conventional mail, but that has not been realized. Latest statistics from South African Post office shows an increase in volume. This is attributed to increase in the Retail market. I was also suppriced at the latest statistics from from Statistics SA the growth per capita has increased to 4%. More people have better buying power and hence increased retail accounts increase.

Back to the matter of letters, interestingly SA Post office Annual Report records that personal mail is still significantly higher than expected. It looks like there is still the retro crowd who enjoy sending and receiving letters. I suppose They have a point, e-mail just isn't as personal and sentimental as letters were. I remember that during the pen pal exchanges, I would include something distinctly South African (eg, Paper pressed leaf or something scented ) and likewise would receive something similar.

This is a good example of just how less human technology has made us become thus far. We must never elude ourselves, Technology can not and must never replace basic human interactions, We must never replace physical interactions by video call. I think it will be a long time before the practice of sending and receiving letters is completely archived. I'm thinking about writting one... Thuvack 09:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I must say, in my life I used real letters for personal communication very few times, mostly letters are for official documents and stuff. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 16:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

16-July-2008: ISO 9001 & Engineering Consultants
A lot of Engineering Consultants & their companies have been forced to look at the issue of standardisation in their business in order to be legible for most Governmental Civils Projects. This is the time of construction Boom in most parts of the world, yet more so for South Africa.

With the 2010 FIFA World Cup coming to South Africa a lot of other projects had to start. The likes of Gautrain marks the begining of first world traits for African countries. This construction boom means a lot of work for Engineering consulting companies, and inevitably a lot of necessary collaboration and sharing of skills.

This necessary Collaboration would be impossible if there are no defined set of standards to govern companies work flow. This is where the drive towards ISO 9000 certification comes in. Since I work for an Electrical Engineering company, I was bound to come across this beast. So I had to do some sort of adhoc research on the ISO thing, and I soon found out that it is not at all so different to the methodology of organisations that I have been applying for the past 2 years.

I wonder how many people have had to change their much loved working method to conform to the ISO standard. I don't suppose it was an easy experience, but I guess it is worth the effort! Thuvack 16:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

13-July-2008: Wikiversity Edits Using OpenOffice.org 2.3
Last Friday when I creted my wikiblog, I checked arround wikiversity Blog category to have an idea of what other wikiveriterians blog about. I came across Whiteknight External blog. The article about OpenOffice.org-2.3 Exports wiki mark-up.

This had my eye brows shoot-up. I have been using OpenOffice.org-2.3 for 4 moths now. It worked wonders for me when I did my Experiential training report ( I must include View-Your-Mind, such a nifty Mind map program). I had no idea that this Beast I have just tamed and have come to enjoy using most dependedly, could do that.

So I tried it on a simple task list I was planning to write sometime tomorow morning (Monday). After typing it out nicely and formating it by bullet and indeting, I saved it, then exported it as MediaWiki (.txt). and Vouala! it worked. The exported text file had the wiki mark-up I had expected.

So I tried something more complicated, I added frames into the document and unfortunately that did not workout. I guess we will always have to do some sort of manual editing. Never the less this presented me with a real efficient way to do my edits. Since I have no internet access at home I have never anticipated doing any text edits since those would be very daunting and limited since there would be no mark-up reference. This little gadget still needs some polishing but I feel it is very useful, I can now plan my weekly edits over the weekend and even do basic markup. All the other fancy graphical part I can do during the week.

That for me is my is a very good find!Thuvack 14:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

10 July 2008: I might as well start this
I have been reflecting on my contributions and activity in the Department of Electrical Engineering here at Wikiversity, and I thought I might as well start a blog.

I am relatively new to Wikiversity, but I have learned so much already! I enjoy contributing to this Open Learning initiative, I guess it all started with Linux and Open Source.

I hope to spend some time each week to log my thoughts, maybe someone will read and maybe we will fortify this wave of Open Learning Revolution.
 * I am reading it now :-) - hope to see more interesting thoughts from you also in the future, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 18:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

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PH

A quantity called the pH is a scale that is used to compare the relative strength of acids and bases. Generally speaking the pH of a substance can range from anywhere between 0 and 14.

History
The concept of pH was first introduced by Danish chemist Søren Peder Lauritz Sørensen at the Carlsberg Laboratory in 1909 and revised to modern pH in 1924 after it became apparent that electromotive force in cells depended on activity rather than concentration of hydrogen ions. In the first papers, the notation had the H as a subscript like so: ph.

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Wikimedia Ethics/Brainstorming

Ethics data gathering
≈ We are creating a learning resource at WikiVersity.

Please look at Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia. You may wish to add your name to the list of human resources. You may wish to contribute to one or more of the items on the to do list. May I request input on proposed ethical guidelines for management of the English language Wikipedia? Or suggestions on a practical objective method of evaluating the same?

 * Posting of announcements of this project:
 * at Meta-Wiki "Babel" page... Done.: Meta-Wiki:Babel
 * at Wikipedia Admin Noticeboard page... Done.: Administrators' Noticeboard Announcement
 * at Wikinews Water Cooler... Done.: Wikinews:Water cooler/policy
 * at Wikimedia Foundation (Requires a privileged official to post anything at Messages or Blog.) Moulton, how about talking up the project at http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/ ? Done.: I submitted a message to Foundation-l. —Moulton 17:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC) - Thanks WAS 4.250 17:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Distinct ethical standards/guides for distinct roles

 * Craft and/or gather links to existing distinct ethical guidelines for distinct roles and functions —- Jimbo, Foundation Board, Foundation staff, Arbitrators, Checkusers, Admins, Biographers, News Journalists, Non-Admin Editors, Wikipedia Outcasts.

 * This seems to me to ignore the central fact that each project already has its own governance. Any guidelines finding consensus here will carry no weight at other projects. If you want to discuss each project's governance that discussion should be taking place at that project, not Wikiversity. Centaur of attention 20:58, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

This project is about providing open educational resources for those who are becoming engaged in governance issues on various projects sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation. No one is obliged to become educated in subjects they have no interest in. But for those who have expressed a sincere desire to learn more about best ethical practices, this project seeks to serve their needs.

Here in the US, we just celebrated Independence Day. We recall these words, penned by Thomas Jefferson some 232 years ago:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness." —Thomas Jefferson, US Declaration of Independence, 1776

I also hold another truth to be scientifically discoverable: That all people are endowed by their Creator with another unalienable right — the right to engage in discovery learning by means of the Scientific Method on the one hand, or the reciprocal right to remain blissfully ignorant on the other hand.

Which hand (or cerebral hemisphere) do you favor, Centaur of attention? You have unfettered free choice in every instance, to choose what you wish to learn, when you wish to learn it, and what you wish to disregard for the time being.

Moulton 22:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Links to Existing Wikimedia Project Ethical Guidelines Related to Above

 * Wikipedia (Index of Essays and Guidelines)
 * Wikinews (Unratified and Unadopted Draft Ethics)
 * Wikimedia Foundation (Policies)
 * Meta-Wiki (Historical Essays on Ethics)

Ethics Library

 * Perhaps a project subpage called "Ethics Library" with both general content and links?
 * The List of External Links probably will need to be structured like that. - Done.

Certificates of Accomplishment
I'm just now beginning to see in my head the mechanisms by which this can provide a positive impact. A major current problem is with teenagers simply trying to "level up" as if this were a game. By deliberately aiming to make passing a course or test or whatever here a badge of honor, a leveling up in itself, the current wikipedia culture can be used to self-correct. We will need to be able to provide a prestgious title and a series of internal leveling up within this project; not for its creators and teachers but for its students. At some point we will need to come up with cool labels/titles, badges and barnstars. See Durova's activities for this sort of social engineering. Hmmm. Maybe she would be willing to help set up such a thing. She's like you - sometimes hard to deal with, but all heart and means well. WAS 4.250 22:11, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The first thing that comes to mind is helping a student of ethics figure out where he or she is currently operating on the Kohlberg-Gilligan Ladder of Moral and Ethical Reasoning. Moving up a rung is actually a major milestone in life, so we might want to work out some more fine-grained exercises, along the lines of Filll's AGF Challenge exercises, or along the lines that we traditionally employed with the youngsters on MicroMuse back in the golden age of online communities. —Moulton 00:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * It seems extremely clear to me that the cause of the majority of the ethical issues on English WP is due to misunderstanding of the core principles and how they should be applied. If they were applied (sources for every bit of information in a BLP, understanding of what NPOV is, understanding of the implications of NOR etc), I believe that most of these issues would disappear.  So educating users as to what they are and what they imply seems to be an important part of the solution. The Fieryangel 08:55, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Among the ideas on the table to solve the BLP problem (as defined by Doc Glasgow and others) is to limit BLP authorship to those who have demonstrated competence in crafting biographical material that rises to a reasonable level of accuracy, excellence, and ethics in online media. The way things stand now, on the English Wikipedia, is that more often than not, "BLP" stands for "Blasphemies of Living People."  —Moulton 10:27, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Limiting editing on BLPs to editors who have "demonstrated competence" violates the core concept and spirit of Wikipedia - an encyclopedia that anyone can edit. And it creates a system open to gaming and abuse, determining exactly who is competent enough to edit BLPs. It's never going to be adopted by the Wikipedia community. Which brings up a bigger issue: Exactly what do you think you are going to accomplish here? Any guidelines finding consensus here will carry no weight at Wikipedia. If you want to discuss Wikipedia's governance that discussion should be taking place at Wikipedia, not Wikiversity. Centaur of attention 20:53, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Centaur, the problem as we are seeing it is that Wikipedia is already "a system open to gaming and abuse" and not focused on generation of content. Kelly Martin makes some statements about this issue over at Wikipedia Review in the context of a BLP situation where the photo of a living person was used to illustrate the article of "Twink" (a young, attractive homosexual) without the person specifically giving permission to do so.  Her take on this issue is that most "editors" do not have any idea of what the rules are and haven't even considered what the core policies might mean.  If one follows them, then this type of situation does not exist.  However, people don't.

 * What needs to happen here is that a set of recommendations needs to be made to make BLP more ethical, as to not harm individuals. Part of this might mean restricting editing such articles to those editors who have demonstrated that they have the understanding and the maturity to do so.  Recently, I participated in a study which examined the English WP articles of the 100 US senators in a three month period.  The results were simply shocking and clearly, this cannot continue.  If this means that only experienced editors can edit BLP articles, isn't it better than the legal headaches that are currently the results of the system in place? The Fieryangel 21:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

 * One of the functions of studies of ethics is to empower people to rise above the minimum prevailing legal standards. On the one hand, most people don't want to live with anxiety of operating just a tad above the breezy side of the law.  On the other hand, leadership in culture values requires being a role model for the highest achievable norms, in the hopes that others will rise to ever higher levels of good citizenship as well.  —Moulton 07:07, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

My objective here is to provide educational resources on the subject of best ethical practices, for the benefit of those Wikipedians who may find such educational material helpful to them. Not everyone will find what they are looking for here, but hopefully we will successfully serve the needs of those whose educational agenda includes managerial ethics and media ethics, as they apply to various projects sponsored by the Wikimedia Foundation. —Moulton 22:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Analysis of core processes on WP from an ethical and dynamic point of view
What is the vision, purpose, and ethical principles underlying the recurring core processes on the English Wikipedia? How were they intended to support and sustain the project at their inception and how have they evolved over time? To what extent are they efficacious or iatrogenic? How does this evolution and shifting definition or application make these principles more or less effective?

One interesting starting point may be Jon Awbrey's "Historical datapoints of the NOR policy", which is located here.

This type of examination might be useful in seeing whether the problem is the core policies themselves or their current interpretations by the WP hierarchy or the "community", however that term might be defined. It might underline key points in WP core policy which are not being followed and which should be underlined in any sort of educational resource concerning using WP ethically.

The Fieryangel 08:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Another issue is the extent to which core features of the system are gamed or exploited for corrupt purposes at odds with the overarching objectives of the project. —Moulton 03:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Analysis of ethics on Wikinews
What can an open content journalism site such as Wikinews do to ensure that articles maintain a high ethical standard. How can contributers to sites such as Wikinews be encouraged to maintain a high ethical standard. How can one ensure that all original reporting follows the appropriate ethical guidelines? Although I know this is not directly related to the English Language Wikipedia, I believe it has a place on this resource. Anonymous101 14:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikinews has resisted the view that the site has any obligation to adopt or live up to a professional code of ethics. It occurs to me that a journalistic enterprise that fails to embrace a code of ethics doesn't have much of a future.  —Moulton 05:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Some other ideas
Generally speaking, there is a history of ethics in medicine and other related disciplines. In psychology, APA and other governing bodies put out codes of ethics. Often, these ethics start with guiding principles such as beneficence, non-maleficence, justice, fairness, and so forth...

Must we reinvent the wheel? Emesee 07:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * We must reintroduce the wheel to those who are not yet familiar with it. Moulton 10:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikipedia is an entirely new and fundamentally different way of creating a thing that has the appearance of an encyclopedia. Some claim it is not an encyclopedia due to its lack of named professional editorship. I think it is demonstrably useful and more useful every year. The question of how to manage such a new thing is important. This project seeks to investigate the question of applying the concept of ethics as used in other media enterprises to the wikipedia project. It is not even established to what degree that application of ethics is optimum for the pursuit of WikiMedia's objectives and values. This learning resource can only gather and organize material useful in trying to understand the issues. It can not, in the end, deliver a final verdict. WAS 4.250 14:21, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

 * http://web.archive.org/web/20011112015907/www.wikipedia.com/wiki.cgi?HomePage See where we were. WAS 4.250 15:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think Emesee has a good point. While WP is very different, it is by no means completely new, either. I think the Blogger's Code of Ethics and the Journalist's Code of Ethics it was based on both have relevance to WP, even if they don't apply completely: Each of those certainly would apply to WP, even if we might have to interpret them differently for the context. Sχeptomaniacχαιρετε 19:54, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Seeking out and reporting the facts
 * Minimize harm
 * Be accountable

 * I agree with accountability. But consider that accountability means identifying the editor.  And that means no disposable avatars.  —Moulton 00:13, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I would partly disagree. Few things are truly all-or-nothing.  It's definitely true that WP's commitment to allowing anonymous and pseudonymous editing severely limits the ability to enforce accountability.  I believe the question is, what would an ethical editor do to remain accountable within those constraints? Sχeptomaniacχαιρετε 17:43, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

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Talk to me here, peeps. If you ask me a question here, I'll respond here. If I've asked you a question somewhere, you please respond there. Thanks!

Welcome
 Hello Thekohser, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may

 * Take a guided tour and learn to edit.
 * Visit a (kind of) random random project.
 * Browse everything on Wikiversity, or visit a portal corresponding to your educational level: pre-school, primary, secondary, tertiary, non-formal education.
 * Find out about research activities on Wikiversity.

 * Read an introduction for teachers and find out how to write an educational resource for Wikiversity.
 * Discuss Wikiversity issues or ask questions at the colloquium.
 * Chat with other Wikiversitans on #wikiversity-en.

And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage, and see you around Wikiversity! WAS 4.250 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Welcome! Thanks for helping. WAS 4.250 17:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

name and role in project
Since you seem unsure about being identified on that page by your name, I have changed it accordingly. Change your name there as you see fit. What do you actually want to do for the project? We have no need for public relations that I know of and even if we do, WikiMedia already has people doing that job. Can you create learning resources that would be useful in the ethical management of Wikipedia? Can you facilitate that? Perhaps you can volunteer as a Wikipedia Review liaison? I'm just thinking aloud here. WR has some good resources poorly organized. Perhaps you could help them get those resources into a shape that is more usable. WAS 4.250 19:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

We have a "Library" subsection under "Learning Resources" on the main page of the project. Perhaps you would like to put together some material that would be appropriate there under the category of examples of successful and unsuccessful management of similar enterprises? WAS 4.250 19:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I was just suggesting that I could communicate the availability of this project to a wider audience, in a way that supports and promotes the intent of the resource. I find it strange and a little hurtful that you would frame that desire as "no need for" it.  You seem a bit "WP:BITEy" today, WAS.  I'm assuming it's not intentional.  I can create learning resources that would be useful in the ethical management of Wikipedia, of course.  I'm not sure yet whether I have the time to dedicate to that more taxing role than to simply assist with communications and publicity.  Let me think about it. -- Thekohser 19:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry about that. I did not mean to bite. I am trying to protect the project from attacks that I knew would come and have started today. Comments made by "human resources" of this project that say things that some can portray as contrary to WikiMedia's Mission and Vision are, shall we say, less than useful. We are using WikiMedia resources and must abide by their priorities and be understandable to them as fitting in with their goals. WAS 4.250 19:49, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm hopeful that everyone who participates in the Learning Project can carve out a constructive and functional role, and find the most appropriate description of their chosen role. I'm also cool with widening the scope to encompass managerial and media ethics in community organizations in general. The English Wikipedia community is clearly our prime customer, but I would be happy to serve the similar educational needs of Wikinews and other online communities with similar needs. Greg is a good spokesman who maintains a lot of contacts with parties who may be interested in what we are doing here. We need that role, since I'm not very good at it, and WAS doesn't use E-Mail or (as far as I know) post off-Wiki. —Moulton 08:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

The spreadsheet as evidence for BLP| problems?
Greg, I'm wondering if it might not be a good idea at this point to provide a link to this project for use here. I believe that it effectively illustrates quite a few BLP problems and why they need to be address seriously. The Fieryangel 21:28, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd rather not release here, where few are reading, when the public release will soon be upon us, and it will be broadcast to mainstream media and to the 100 affected persons. I will take this as a prompt to expedite the final clean-up of the spreadsheet. -- Thekohser 00:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

As an aid to readers who have come here since July 2008, it is worth noting that The Fieryangel was referencing this study of Wikipedia vandalism. -- Thekohser 16:59, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Re:Talk:Managing vandalism
ping, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 16:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Good example
Thank you for demonstrating your willingness and ability to play well with others. You thereby set a good example for everyone. WAS 4.250 17:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

 * And thank you, WAS, for illustrating Stage 3 of Kohlberg's Ladder. —Moulton 21:28, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure about that Moulton. Was this decision based on ethics, or just common courtesy and mutual respect? More generally: are all decisions made in a social context necessarily made in the ethical mode? --SB_Johnny | talk 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

 * It doesn't have to be a conscious choice. There is no obligation to consciously strive to emulate Thich Nhat Hanh or the Dalai Lama 24/7 (or even worry about where one is operating in the Kohlberg-Gilligan Plane of Urim v'Thummim).  —Moulton 19:21, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Perhaps you would like to write a learning resource on The Ethics of Claiming Compliments are Ethically Challanged? Or is there simply a misunderstanding here someplace? WAS 4.250 00:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

 * It's certainly possible for a either a sycophant or a charlatan to manipulate someone via insincere compliments or disingenuous criticisms. There may well be a best practice on giving authentic feedback in an optimal manner.  Probably married couples know this all too well.  —Moulton 01:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

(<--)Are you suggesting that you have scientifically valid evidence for a theory of mind that puts me in one of those categories? If not, I still fail to understand the ethics behind your insult of me. Unless you were just in a bad mood or some such thing. We are after all, all of us human. WAS 4.250 08:19, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

It just occurred to me that our different valuations of pragmatism may be in play here. Interestingly enough, I do believe that Greg is more pragmatic than I am; while you are less (more, shall we say, principle oriented). Well, I find it interesting, anyway. WAS 4.250 08:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it makes sense and is "scientific" to do what works. I think ethics and principles are useful for when we don't know what will happen so we need safe guesses. Principles/ethics are often contradictory in the sense that we have things like "Look before you leap" and "He who hesitates is lost". There is an ethical principle that can support any action whatsoever. All you have to do is pick and choose your specific ethical principles. pEOPLE DO THAT ALL THE TIME. wHEN YOU ACTUALLY EVALUATE THE PREDICTABLE END RESULTS AND JUDGE ACCORDING TO THAT; WELL, THE ABILITY TO PICK AND CHOOSE IS MORE LIMITED AS NOW YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE PREDICTED END RESULTS OF ONE'S PRINCIPLES RATHER THAN SIMPLY INSIST THAT THE PRINCIPLES ARE CORRECT AND ONESELF IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESULTS. WAS 4.250 08:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I hope it's OK...
Oversight was used on this page, at my request. I had asked that you be consulted first, but that apparently got lost under a pile of paperwork somewhere or another ;-). I meant what I said though: if "they" come here looking to cause you misery, I'll stand by you if you need me. --SB_Johnny | talk 18:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Audio introduction
Please participate at Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia/Audio or Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia/Audio/Transcripts. --JWSchmidt 04:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Does participation include a bus ticket to Banville? -- Thekohser 11:19, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

trolling
I'm skeptical about the applicability of any standard definition of trolling in cases such as this. In my experience, the terms "Troll!" and "trolling" are most often used to signal an emotional response being experienced by insecure Wikimedians. In the best cases, actual thought processes are engaged after the emotional response has been triggered. In the worst cases, the thought is aimed at distracting mystified onlookers from the fact that a supposedly mature and responsible authority flipped out and went ballistic. Research in use of the term "trolling" by Wikimedians would be beneficial, but would probably be dismissed as "trolling". --JWSchmidt 22:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

"Cross-wiki issues" is not a blockable offense, is it?
Furthermore, if unblocked, I will contribute one hour of my time working on Wikiversity content related to either military history or market research. -- Thekohser 16:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I support your unblock, but you have to be much more cautious in your comments. If you write something, read it, then "Show preview", read it again, and if you would be OK to receive such a message yourself, then click the "Save page". Just to tell: Your comment was not absolutely ok last time... You know what I mean... You just make things worse with this kind of behavior. If you will continue like this, you might find yourself reblocked again. This is a warning. But for now I hope some Custodian comes around and unblocks you. --Gbaor 16:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I do not think an unblock will happen without problems. However, I would be willing to allow Thekosher to work on a few projects on his talk page and have someone move them to mainspace. That would give solid evidence that he is here to do more than cause problems. This was the same offer I gave to Moulton and a few others. Ottava Rima (talk) 17:08, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

 * What are the cross-wiki issues you've been involved in? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 21:30, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Thank you for asking, Jtneill. Essentially, the "issue" that has most surrounded me is the issue of paid editing on Wikipedia.  In mid-2006, I launched a business called MyWikiBiz (described on Wikipedia).  In a fully-disclosed manner, I sought to mimic the transactional paradigm that was already in place on the Wikipedia Reward board.  In a short amount of time, Jimmy Wales blocked my Wikipedia account, then called me on the telephone to discuss whether there might be a way forward.  He presented a plan where he would publicly endorse (that may not be the best word, perhaps "tolerate" is better) a compromise scenario, where MyWikiBiz would publish GFDL material off-Wikipedia, but that non-paid, "well known and respected" Wikipedians would be allowed to copy material over from off-site onto Wikipedia itself.
 * I found this to be a clumsy, less-transparent compromise than my original intention to simply edit in the disinfecting sunlight of full disclosure, on-Wikipedia. But, when you get the co-founder's public endorsement/toleration of "his" model, you go with it.
 * Well, in short time (about 2 months) the Wikipedia community began to reshape and generate a newer form of the old "WP:VANITY" guideline, and as it became more solidified as a "WP:COI" (conflict of interest) guideline, my interpretation of it was that it would be tolerable for a paid editor to present content on his/her own User sub-page, which could facilitate discussion and then eventual copying into Wikipedia, from Wikipedia, as it were. I knew that when I had asked Wales about this earlier in the game, he had said, "Absolutely unacceptable, sorry."  So, when it was elevated to guideline status, I e-mailed Wales, to simply confirm that I should remain in place with our earlier concord, and not start doing what the WP:COI seemed to allow.
 * Wales went ballistic. He indefinitely blocked my account, placed a dire warning to clients against my business on my User page, and he threatened to bad-mouth my personal ethics in any interview where the subject of paid editing came up.  He also deleted an article that shouldn't have been deleted, about Arch Coal -- the second-largest coal mining operation in the United States -- which hadn't even been a paid engagement.  The article was restored by an admin who had been aggressively confronting me for the previous 4 months, and he restored it in a "new" form that he declared was written "ab initio", even though it was clear that major elements still plagiarized my words and organization.  In short, he deliberately tried to take credit himself for an article that I had written, without payment.
 * This opened up an ugly process of my finding out various ways in which Jimmy Wales was being highly hypocritical about money and Wikipedia and exploitation of Wikipedia. I have become something of a watchdog over the Wikimedia Foundation, which I admit is rather obsessive.  But, I was wronged, and even though Wales eventually brought himself to make a not-quite-complete apology to me, he continues to conduct himself privately in interactions with me that I find infuriating, as well as misrepresenting to the public himself and his role with Wikipedia.
 * I have persisted in helping out on projects where I feel that Wales has not unduly injected himself, such as Meta, Wikiquote, and Wikibooks. However, I've mostly continued my wiki-based work on a new "wiki version" of MyWikiBiz.com, as well as co-founded a Florida non-profit called Internet Review Corporation.
 * While there were other later "issues" with another Wikipedia admin who deliberately fabricated untruths about my dealing with journalists, and with another Wikipedian who deliberately refused to release an audio file of a Board of Trustees candidate roundtable interview that over 10 people produced and expected for the recording to be released, what I've described above is essentially the "cross-wiki issue" at the heart of the matter. Wales doesn't like me, and I don't like him.  He found the model of making money by "exploiting" Wikipedia to be unethical.  But, then I ask, what is he doing?  He has the "block this user" tool-bit, and I don't.  You can draw your own conclusions about who holds the higher moral ground in this personal conflict. -- Thekohser 15:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, this is quite a long and involved history - thanks for explaining in a nutshell here - and all new to me. I haven't followed all the links, but am curious where are you currently blocked / allowed on the WMF projects? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
 * That is another good question, Jtneill.

 * So, what would you conclude from this? On which Wikimedia Foundation projects has Jimmy Wales been most active over the past 5 days?  I would contend that the answer would be English Wikipedia and English Wikiversity, which also constitute 2 of the 3 Wikimedia Foundation projects where I am blocked.  Coincidence?  The third project where I'm blocked is the Strategy wiki, where I was blocked for proposing very politely a way to transition Jimmy Wales out of the spotlight as a "bad PR" generator.  My blocks, it seems, clearly revolve around Jimmy Wales.
 * Now, I have proposed above that if I am unblocked on English Wikiversity, I will busy myself with various items utterly unrelated to Jimmy Wales and the "breaching experiments" conflagration into which he's injected himself. I continue to wait patiently for my unblock here.  (Pssst... If you're just waiting for Jimmy to get exhausted here and go back to Wikipedia before you sneak in the unblock, I understand, and I'm amenable to that plan.  Plenty of time.)  -- Thekohser 14:19, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I have looked into some of this history - thanks very much all the links etc. that does make it a lot of easier. There does seem to be a long and complicated history of controversial involvement in WMF projects - with mistakes on both sides? My initial impression is that a decision to block/unblock is not clear cut and I would lean towards community review if you really do want to contribute given that you have been blocked by the founder. Jimbo obviously thought it was clear-cut, so hopefully he can clarify about that. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 01:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

In my opinion, "cross-wiki issues" is simply a nonsense codeword. Mike Lifeguard used the same language in 2008 to threaten me with blacklisting simply because my user page had a few links on it. The blocking agent should be asked to explain and justify his charge, not require the defendant — Spanish Inquisition style — to make a list of all the things he might have done wrong. Thekohser should be reinstated immediately, with no conditions. Jon Awbrey 02:22, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

If one takes it as true that Wikiversity lack substantial policies in place to govern itself, as has been proposed, I suggest examining Wikipedia:Blocking policy on this, specifically, the section on disruption-only accounts and how that does not apply to this account, the section on the conflict of interest created when a person performs a block in response to feeling personally wronged, the section on notifying the user of the block, which was not performed by the person who put the block into place, the section on attempting to warn/educate the user before blocking, and finally the section stating that blocks are "not intended for use in retaliation, as punishment". Wikipedia believes that "bans issued by the Wikipedia community or by the Arbitration Committee are not binding on other projects", so why would an indefinite block of thekohser over a single subjective comment, with no warning or notification, by a conflicted party, based on issues at another wiki, be acceptable? -- Adrignola 12:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

So, it has been nearly five full days since I requested an unblock. Could I just get an update on where this review currently stands? I'm not necessarily asking for the "up or down decision", mind you. If it's something as simple as, "We're waiting until out-of-process-Jimbo goes away, and then someone will actually review your past, recent, and potentially future contributions to Wikiversity and the Wikiversity community, and we'll make a decision then," that's just fine with me. I'm not in a big hurry. In fact, the longer my request goes undecided, the more telling it is, I think, to see how timid is the governance here to act when a "grown up" is having a tantrum. By the way, if it's any help, I do have a Bachelor's, Master's, and was C.Phil. in programs in military/diplomatic history and quantitative methods in geography. That work was over 15 years ago, so it is intriguing to see if I could successfully immerse myself once again in a learning community that seems to need assistance. -- Thekohser 14:03, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I understand that Jimbo has been in discussions with PM regarding his recent block. It might be useful to get some input from Jimbo to help assess this situation. Have you been in contact with him? Adambro 14:45, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Jimbo does not respond to e-mails from me any more. Also, you may wish to check with PrivateMusings about these "discussions" he purportedly is having.  It is reported that Jimbo has not e-mailed PM for five days. This would seem to indicate a cognitive dissonance in your understanding, though it is nothing to be sorry for.  I think the pattern of practice for the user with the "Founder" bit is to leave behind a trail of confusion, thanks to incomplete and misdirected commentary.  Consider, indeed, even the spurious claim to be "Founder". "Decline to participate, sorry." Sorry, indeed. -- Thekohser 14:53, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I'll leave Jimbo a message on his talk page here to seek his views about a possible unblock. Adambro 15:32, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Unblock was denied. I have removed the template, because it places the page into a unblock denied category, which should be reserved for active blocks. The unblock reason is preserved. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 21:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC) Unblock denied. [Unblock reason] I believe that the blocking admin is mistaken and has exceeded his remit

[Denial reason] Jimbo has now made his position absolutely clear and I see no overwhelming justification to overturn his decision. You've only ever contributed here sporadically and your comments at Wikiversity:Community Review/Wikimedia Ethics:Ethical Breaching Experiments were your first edits here in just under a year. Clearly, as you've accepted, you don't like Jimbo, and the impression I get from your edits is that you came here last week with an axe to grind, having seen an opportunity to criticise Jimbo. I would hope that you can recognise that turning up here out of the blue apparently to have another stab at Jimbo wasn't particular helpful, was more likely to inflame the situation than help to resolve it, and does now make your apparent eagerness to contribute here suspicious considering there was nothing stopping you doing that earlier. Adambro 10:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Work that needs doing
Some areas where I would work:
 * Field and tab -- Content is utterly lacking and sort of begs the question, "What about Full-service research as a counterpart?"
 * Here is an example of the work I could perform within Wikiversity. Discussion: Compare Wikiversity's moribund page as it existed before editing by a "banned user", and then after.  Which version do you prefer?  Which editor would you want working at Wikiversity?  Which editor would you want banned from the project?  Which editor merits a "global ban"?

 * Military Studies -- Section is completely vacant.
 * Introduction to Military History -- The instruction here to "make a graphic organizer" is inadequate in terms of course outcomes.
 * Category:Presentations -- It might be interesting to add my presentation of wikis (or at least a modified "freely licensed" version of it) somehow to this area.

As for the proposal that I "work first, then get unblocked"... that seems rather humiliating. My record of content production should speak for itself. I will say this -- upon unblock, I'll have nothing more to add on Wikiversity about the interference of Jimmy Wales here, and that should be sufficient promise that there should not be trouble (unless bad faith individuals elect to come "make" trouble out of nothing). -- Thekohser 17:42, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Appealing the Jimbo/Adambro decision
Is there a means to formally appeal the strong-armed decision of User:Jimbo Wales and User:Adambro to indefinitely block this particular account from Wikiversity? -- Thekohser 14:22, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Technically the discussion would be on WV:CR (which of course you can't edit at the moment), but the rules seem to have been suspended. --SB_Johnny talk 14:26, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Maybe I'd stand a better chance if I just requested inclusion in Wikiversity as a "fictional mascot"? -- Thekohser 14:35, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Perhaps Steward requests/Global? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 14:38, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * Looks like your situation amounts to a founder/board level "global block" as opposed to a steward/meta global block so you would need to work through Jimbo Wales and/or the WMF board: . I suspect there must be more to this than meets the eyes of us unfamiliar with the detailed past history and dealings between yourself and Jimmy/the WMF? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 22:12, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Further to my earlier comments, I'll add abusing multiple accounts/block evasion to the reasons why I don't think it would be appropriate to unblock Thekohser. Adambro 14:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * That would be particularly imprudent judgment, being that the "abuse" merely resulted in very good content being contributed to Wikiversity. Why do you hate good content, Adambro?  Also, the socking only took place after a poor judgment had been rendered, not before.  It would be like saying, "It is right and just that we did not allow this Detroit-area dentist with a degree from the University of Michigan with the surname Al-Zahiri on this aircraft, because he later went on to allow a parking meter to expire while parked in front of the courthouse to file a wrongful discrimination claim against the airline!"  This may be a helpful instructional video for you, if you can't understand what I'm saying, Adambro. -- Thekohser 15:26, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Invitation for grant money
Anyone who is interested in investigative research or documenting past abuses in "free culture" organizations (of course, with the objective of learning how to prevent such abuses in the future), is welcome to consider this general notice. -- Thekohser 15:32, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Inappropriate edit summaries
This edit contained an inappropriate edit summary. Do not accuse people of racist attitudes when you clearly have no source for such. You stated that his action would be analogous to a racist action, then labeled him as such. This is inappropriate. If you do it again, I will reblock you with talk page access removed. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:48, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I understand, Boss. Do you think anyone else is beginning to understand? -- Thekohser 16:07, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Incomplete summary
Regarding the summary that seems to be appearing here, it is incomplete. SB_Johnny asked to resign his tools on March 23, here, stating that Jimmy Wales' intervention made his participation feel "morally uncomfortable". Also, the summary is lacking in that it doesn't track the case history of my own account -- in good standing here since July 2008 -- being blocked by Jimmy Wales due to "cross-wiki issues", and a request for unblock going rejected based on Jimmy Wales' wish that my accounts suffer a "global block". I would appreciate if someone could update the timeline appropriately, so that a more comprehensive story takes shape. I continue to believe that the "biggest troll" in this affair is waltzing back to San Francisco (or St. Petersburg, or Manhattan) or wherever he resides. -- Thekohser 16:47, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

My "standard offer"
If anyone is interested in restoring my account to the Wikiversity community (since it would appear that Jimmy Wales was fabricating his support by the Board; according to board member Samuel Klein, "He was not acting as an agent of the Board nor was there any 'Board authorization of an intervention'."), I have made my "standard offer" for accepting the Wikiversity's restoration of my editing rights. -- Thekohser 17:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * No thanks. Adambro 20:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Material added to user page per request
I have added material to User:Thekohser per request of this user, at. The content is the content from, as created by the user, which was removed pursuing what I see as an unresolved conflict. I saw no harm in the content, but I left the NOINDEX tag in place to anticipate objections about him promoting his web site. I think it likely that the block of this user is temporary, but I'm not yet prepared to support unblock personally, until I have better assurance that he will avoid unnecessary disruption. But I will say that I would not oppose any administrator restoring his editing rights, if that administrator is satisfied by conditions or assurances. --Abd 17:18, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Thekohser block settings changed to allow Talk page access
I am unable to see any reason to prohibit Talk page access here for this user. Above, under the section 'My "standard offer", Thekohser made an offer seeking unblock. While that offer was, in a sense, improper, and was accompanied by the "standard unblock request nonsense" of "the block was not properly made," it wasn't disruptive, and I believe that we can and should move on. I support the full unblock of this user, disregarding the carrot offered, and providing that appropriate agreements can be made to address any concerns of those presently involved with this community. This beginning will allowing Thekohser the dignity of being allowed to edit his own Talk page.

Thekohser, please be careful with this. Please avoid stirring up old problems. Don't poke the bear, okay? I have my own opinions about your prior history, but they aren't relevant. How we move forward will not depend on me or my opinions, but upon the consensus of this community. Please look to the whole community, and address any concerns with patience and tolerance, I expect it of you. --Abd 19:55, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

De-linked, unblocked.
I assume you're going to be watched closely :-). --SB_Johnny talk 21:44, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I wouldn't have it any other way.  Who doesn't love an audience? -- Thekohser 22:01, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Indeed :-). As my grandmother used to say when I was a teenager: "be good, and if you can't be good, be careful!" --SB_Johnny talk 22:03, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations, Greg. This whole affair has demonstrated what I already knew: you can be firmly on the side of what will be consensus, and yet it can appear that the cause is hopeless; one would think that consensus would be self-supporting. Not always. Wikiphenomena. Enjoy the pudding that the proof is in.

When the smoke clears, we have work to do, I believe. Meanwhile, please, take it easy! The conditions haven't really changed, you just don't have to self-revert any more! It's still a good idea to self-revert sometimes when proposing some outrageous edit, as it might appear.... with discussion, of course. And if no good reason appears, with the passage of some time, then it's perfectly in order to undo my own self-revert!

Good luck. --Abd 00:19, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Welcome back! Let's hope that common sense will prevail on other projects as well. Guido den Broeder 09:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I want to thank everyone (except the obvious two or three) for your work in overcoming this injustice. I hope that my contributions will continue to show that the only threat I may pose to this project is that dastardly black cloud of... factual information.  -- Thekohser 14:58, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * In a fair world, you wouldn't have to be extra careful. But it's not fair. So please don't push it here, save the sarcasm for Wikipedia Review, okay? Just leave it at thanking, you don't have to mention any others. On behalf of all future users who run into problems, my friend, I thank you for demonstrating a path of return and possible reconciliation that could have much deeper consequences than just your own contributions. --Abd 00:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
 * INCIVILITY !!! INCIVILITY !!! - The obvious two or three 20:16, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Ethical Accountability?
my request to Adambro Greg, if you want this account unblocked, please place an unblock template on the Talk page. A decent reason would be "This is an acknowledged alternate account of Thekohser, now unblocked per community discussion [diff] which discussion included support for unblocking this account as well as the main one, and there was no distinct opposition (i.e., to unblocking Thekohser but leaving this blocked). Please unblock." Be sure to edit as Thekohser and sign it.

The reason I asked Adambro for this was to make it easier to undo the global lock on EA. That lock was placed a few days ago because of the account being a "sock of Thekohser." You apparently started, while the WV unblock process was in motion, a number of other such accounts (if not, let me know! Those could be straw puppets.), but the only account with activity is the WV one. You have not created any user pages or made any edits with the other accounts. So, really, what's involved in the global lock on EA was an attempt to prevent the use of EA on Wikiversity in a process to find local consensus. I've asked the steward to reverse, you know how that goes. May or may not happen. But, meanwhile, it looks bad that EA is blocked on WV, will make it slightly more complicated to get that lock lifted.

(The EA account lock may later be used as "evidence" that you were abusively socking. People don't necessarily look at details. That's why this might be important.)

It's up to you. I'm dropping this unless you request unblock, it's not crucial. If you request, I'll make sure it gets due attention. Please don't raise a fuss, just either make the request or don't. Please do not criticize Adambro. --Abd 19:14, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I side with Adambro's thoughts on this. It's not worth it to me to pursue any unblocks on accounts that were intended as only temporary bridges across chasms of injustice. -- Thekohser 14:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Greg. Simple. --Abd 15:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Why this?
. Bad enough that this was posted anywhere, but why did you move it to the actual Colloquium page? --Abd 22:53, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that Daanschr was making a comment about something that KYPark had written on the Colloquium. So it probably did have some relevance to the Colloquium page, i.e., it was about something written there. But it was pretty inappropriate, like some other discussions that pop up from time to time. If D has some complaint about KYP, it would have been better filed on User talk for KYP.... At least to start. But the comment seems pretty incoherent to me. I looked and couldn't find with the time I gave it what in the world Daanschr was talking about.

In any case, I reverted your changes. I hope you don't mind. I noted that Daanschr, if he wanted the comment to be on the Colloquium page itself, could, of course, revert me.... --Abd 23:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Honestly, I was just trying to tidy up. I didn't read it very carefully, and I also found it fairly incoherent.  I did sense that it was not a discussion ABOUT the Colloquium page, so I thought it best to move it to the Colloquium page.  I don't have any problem whatsoever with whatever happens to it henceforth. -- Thekohser 19:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Could use a statistician
Thanks for your message. I think it's best if I give my initial reply by e-mail.--Poetlister 19:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Please avoid personal attacks.
Topic says it all. Thenub314 (talk) 00:43, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I see you conveniently missed this personal attack while rushing to deal with the one you imagined from me (which itself was a bit of satire, not attack). I guess you favor the drive-by accusation of "sockpuppetry" from a new account with all of two edits to Wikiversity, compared to my 100+ contributing edits here since 2008.  Find your moral compass Nub, then get back to me. Thekohser (talk) 14:51, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Calling into question a users identity and calling into question a users sanity are two issues on a completely different level. I did not take into consideration anyone's edit counts.  Simply what I read.  I see you placed it back, and I have rolled it back.  Please do not add the "satire" back again. Thenub314 (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

 * The follow-up edit did not question any user's sanity, so your roll-back was out of order. Please restore my most recent response, as it is fully appropriate to critique a new user who immediately questions the identity of another user (without having contributed one iota of improvement to our Wikiversity), and hypocritically no less, given that the new user is a frequent contributor to the site he attempts to disparage against the other user. -- Thekohser (talk) 19:19, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Your correct that a users sanity was no longer called into question. But in order to understand your post, I googled the phrase "define yiffy account" I was lead as a first result to Urban dictionary.  The acronym seems to stem from the phrase: "Young Incredibly Fuckable Furry". Not in any way germane to the discussion and in my view a personal attack.
 * Perhaps this was unintentional as yiff is also the word for the sound of a fox barking. Given the context of the sites you linked to, intentional or not it the remark seemed to suggest something about the user.
 * My advice to you: do not associate any users here with any type of sexual activity, fetish, etc. that they do associate themselves with here at WV. Doing so in my opinion is a personal attack.  Thenub314 (talk) 20:22, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That is an odd opinion, given that Silver seren is very open and public about his plan: "We furries plan to yiff the world." So, it's okay for a user to "attack" another user, falsely accusing them of sockpuppetry and of harboring an outside agenda, based on an affiliation with a website, to which the accuser himself has contributed hundreds of times?  I think I understand, Thenub.  Oh, and it's "You're correct" -- a contraction, and "user's" -- a possessive, and I don't know what to make of "it remark".  I'll assume English is not your strength. Thekohser (talk) 20:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Your comments about my strength in English are indeed correct. As there are other "thenub314"'s out there, I see no particular reason to believe this link has to do with the user here.  Not to mention you seemed to have missed the "here at WV" condition above.  But that is fine, English is my weak point, and it seems logic is yours. Thenub314 (talk) 21:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
 * My logic is quite fine, thank you. -- Thekohser (talk) 17:24, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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User:Jtneill/Teaching

University of Canberra
I currently teach at the University of Canberra. More information.

Teaching philosophy

 * My teaching philosophy

I currently teach...

 * Motivation and emotion, 2010 -
 * Research Methods in Psychology PG 2022 -

I have previously taught...

 * Honours thesis in psychology
 * Psychology 102

 * Social psychology
 * Survey research and design in psychology

I have presented about...

 * Presentations

Awards

 * 1) Student teaching award commendation, Faculty of Health, University of Canberra, 2022
 * 2) Work-integrated learning team award, University of Canberra, 2022
 * 3) Unit Convener Award, Faculty of Health, University of Canberra, 2009 - for high student satisfaction levels with innovative teaching of social psychology using open access blogs and wikis in 2007 and 2008 respectively - see evaluation.
 * 4) Team Teaching Award, Faculty of Health, University of Canberra, 2009 - for team development and delivery of Psychology 101 as an online unit.

Key terms

 * 1) Experiential learning
 * 2) Flexible learning
 * 3) Online learning
 * 4) Open education

title: User:Jtneill/Teaching


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User:Jtneill/To do

I am working on...

 * 4 pillars free open teaching
 * ANOVA - Advanced ANOVA
 * APA style
 * Autopoiesis
 * Case study: Blended design and openness
 * Connectedness to nature
 * Connectivism and Connective Knowledge/09
 * Citing Sources
 * Composing OER - PLE
 * Concept mapping
 * Disruptive technology
 * Editing audio
 * Educational wikis
 * Effect size
 * Experiential education - learning
 * Favourite presentations
 * Free culture
 * Green exercise
 * Interactive whiteboard
 * John Dewey
 * Intro to psych stats w
 * Lecture 2.0
 * LEQ - draft paper
 * Meta-analysis
 * Moodle
 * Online surveys
 * Open academia
 * Open access
 * Open access journal
 * Open consulting
 * Open educational resources
 * Open management
 * Outdoor education
 * Outdoor education/Research/Australia/Schools/Bibliography
 * Personality/Traits
 * Preschool education
 * Psychology
 * Quiz
 * R
 * Random
 * Research - Australia
 * Research methods in psychology
 * Sandbox server
 * Social psychology (psychology)
 * Social Sciences
 * SPSS
 * Statistical power
 * Survey design - Workshop
 * Teaching and Learning Online
 * Statistics
 * t-test
 * University - UC
 * Publicity
 * School and university projects
 * Tips
 * Wikiversity tutorials
 * Wireless travel router

2010

 * 1) Consider enrolling in Graduate Certificate in Tertiary Education
 * 2) Re-image laptop and UC desktop

2008

 * 1) Sup - wrap-up
 * 2) * Thesis summaries
 * 3) * PDF theses
 * 4) Re-draft social psychology feedback
 * 5) Draft 2008 Sem 1, Survey methods feedback/review
 * 6) Moodle Mentoring for psychstaff
 * Intercambio...

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User:Jtneill/Software

Software I use...

 * 7-Zip - for zipping
 * Acronis True Image - tested for backup but now trying Toucan
 * Adobe Reader
 * Any FLV Player
 * CamStudio - for screencasting
 * DokuWiki - for a simple, no database open source wiki
 * Internet Explorer - because some sites only work in IE
 * Firefox -> Firefox Portable - but also Thunderbrowse - for web browsing
 * HTML-Kit - for a text editor, but now trying FSPad
 * Inkscape - for image editing, also trying Gimp
 * iTunes - for son's iTouch - but just play music with VLC
 * Juice - for subscribing to and downloading podcasts
 * Launchy - didn't use it much - quick launch utility for Windows
 * MediaWiki - use this lots for everything at Wikiversity and Wilderdom
 * Microsoft FrontPage - as an html editor
 * Microsoft Outlook - for work email at work
 * Microsoft Powertoys - especially image resizer and a little bit TweakUI
 * Microsoft Windows XP - eventually I hope something like Ubuntu
 * Microsoft Office -> Word - Excel - Powerpoint - but only occasionally - I use Open Office instead
 * Moodle - an open source learning management system - at UC via http://learnonline.canberra.edu.au
 * MWSnap - Neat, windows screen capture - a favourite
 * Open Office -> Writer - Calc - Impress - Draw
 * PDF Split and Merge - Very handy for splitting or merging PDF docs
 * PhotoStudio - A lightweight image editor - found a disk somewhere
 * PrimoPDF - For generating PDFs
 * R - Free and open source statistical analysis software
 * Quiz generation - I used Respondus and Qedoc but then I learnt GIFT format and import to Moodle
 * Skype - for VoIP
 * SPSS - GUI for statistical analysis
 * Taskbar Shuffle - Windows utility for changing order of open applications - A favourite
 * Thunderbird - For email, with Thunderbrowse
 * TreeSize - Windows tool for analysing the sizes of folders and files
 * Ubuntu -> Edubuntu for the kids - Slowly transitioning from Windows to GNULinux operating systems
 * VLC - for playing media files
 * WinMerge - for analysing the text differences between files
 * Zen Cart - free and open source e-commerce (shopping cart) software at http://wilderdom.com/store

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User:Michelleb

This is my initial start page, which I will continually update as I become more familiar with the wikimedia syntax and decide on content.

My Favorite Links
Aviary Moodle

Some big text...

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User:Lucio Di Madaura

My user page on it.wikipedia

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Talk:Fashion Design

Hello! I will be starting a Fashion Course that will consist of textbook and hands-on activities! Please sign your name to this discussion if you are interested in being a student in this class and I will then contact you forward! Thank You! -Samantha Sammyjoe02 (discuss • contribs) 03:02, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

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User talk:Cdevane3

Hello, welcome around here. I hope we can help you succeed in your learning goals. Below more info about Wikiversity, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 19:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold to contribute and to experiment with the sandbox or your userpage, and see you around Wikiversity! Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 19:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Michelleb

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User:Mabalmer

Welcome to my userpage. :)

I'm a musician, and hold a Bachelor's degree in Music Education from the University of Oklahoma. I studied trumpet while I was at OU, and play professionally. I also teach privately, and am more than happy to help answer any musical questions that come up.

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User talk:Mabalmer

Hello, welcome around here. I hope we can help you succeed in your learning goals in the area music. Below more info about Wikiversity, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 22:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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User:Jc37

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User talk:The Fieryangel

Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia.
I'm here to participate on this project.

Welcome
 Hello The Fieryangel, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may

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Let us try inclusiveness
Let us try inclusiveness. Apparently here they are more about adding possible learning opportunities here than deleting, so let us try this: Add your own vision of goals of the project (make it as similar as you can or you might as well just create your own seperate project) and then create subpages as you need them. Remembering that original research backed up by evidence is allowed here, but the end goal is creating a useful learning resource. Go for it. Bring your friends. WAS 4.250 22:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm hoping we can integrate your goals with those of WAS. It might not be obvious to others, but it's manifestly obvious to me that I need your talents and skills as much as I need those that WAS brings to the project. I would like to produce output in multiple formats, ranging from traditional academic text to innovative multi-media formats. I call that edutainment — a hybrid between traditional education and modern entertainment media. —Moulton 08:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi
I noticed you are a participant in Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia. Could you give me some advice on what I could do to help the resource. Thanks, Anonymous101 19:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Special privileges
Hi. I liked your comment:

 * If the policies were enforced equally on all editors, regardless of edit count, regardless of "status" in the hierarchy etc, this "insular" quality would probably become much less important, since people wouldn't get so wrapped up in the "How to win friends and influence people" aspects of "the game".

There's a clique of a couple dozen contributors who "run" the evolution, ID, and global warming articles (about 200 total pages altogether). Since enforcement is by "consensus", it would take a group twice as large as this (maybe 50 people) to stop their subversion of NPOV. --Ed Poor 14:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Yes but there a lot of people like me that agree that the group running it ends up with accurate NPOV articles, for the most part (but Moulton was mostly right about what he brought to their attention). My objection is to the way they achieve the result, not so much the end article contents. The policies make keeping article content accurate a pain for anyone that does not actually like pushing people around. The fault lies in those policies. The bullying is merely a consequence of policies that don't work anymore. WAS 4.250 14:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Audio introduction
Please participate at Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia/Audio or Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia/Audio/Transcripts. --JWSchmidt 04:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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User:The Fieryangel

Ethical Management of the English Language Wikipedia.
I'm here to participate on this project.

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User talk:Snek01

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User talk:DutchHarbor

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Offer to engage in a dialogue.
On the talk page for the new project, you wrote:

The irony is thick as molasses in January. Given that some here seem to roughly equate ethics with morality, how precisely is "outting" ethical? Obviously, as Wikimedia Foundation sites do not approve of "outting" (a decision made by community consensus) it is clear that outing is not ethical. I'd note my previous point about ethics, but me comments all seem to have disappeared. Seems that the wrong people might be driving (or policing) the discussion here. If you can't walk the walk, don't bother to talk the talk. DutchHarbor 21:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Would you like to engage in a discussion about the referenced allegations?

Moulton 00:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Facts, actually. Anything outlawed by a specific community, or not approved by same is by definition unethical. DutchHarbor 22:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

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User talk:Zetud

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User talk:Kevmin

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User talk:SunshinestateOfMind

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User talk:Ferardfc~enwikiversity

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Ferardfc. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Ferardfc~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:32, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Jayjg

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User talk:MockingMonkey~enwikiversity

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called MockingMonkey. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name MockingMonkey~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Renamed
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User talk:Xeno

w:en:User talk:Xeno This page is a soft redirect.

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User talk:Bleetiful

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User talk:Rjd0060

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User talk:Aracuano

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User talk:R.Schuster

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