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I had the same idea User:Trevor MacInnis/MainPage, comments anyone? - Trevor MacInnis 14:56, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Discussion of Design Revision

 * Summary of discussion: This needs tweaks, then this can be posted. A strong majority would like to see this design posted (10 or 11 of 13, including 2 comments on Trevor's design talk page), and some say tweaking is needed first. Almost all would like to see the design tweaked somehow. In response to feedback, Trev has done extensive tweaking now, two rounds at least, including in response to above comments, to improve this. A few minor things remain to do. This is almost ready.
 * Recent tweaks: The clock is gone. The globe is gone (though I think it could've stayed). The colors are more muted and also uniform. The text in the main column is larger.
 * An observation: When a new design is introduced, some will almost always prefer the old design, a simpler design, or another design. There is the possibility of making main page text into templates so that different main page skins can be used. In this case, since there is a strong majority in support for the new design, it seems reasonable for that to be the new default design (or skin).
 * The intent for the review was to see, rather quickly in a day or two, if there were any real problems with the new design. A review seems a good and even necessary step for a big design change on the main page -- but the assumption was this can be done rather quickly since this a new project. One significant problem did get mentioned in comments: usability. Usability is a serious issue. Text size has been mentioned by three people as an issue (two mentions on this page and one on the design comment page). I agree with that being an issue. Text size has been partly revised and will be addressed further. There is a question as to whether the right hand column text on blue background is too low a contrast. Once the text size in the right column is increased and the blue background on right is addressed (lighter blue? white box inside?), I think this can go up. Further comments? Thanks very much for your input, Reswik 13:13, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that the design is coming along nicely. Indeed, it has been significantly improved.  With a bit more tweaking (such as the aforementioned contrast adjustment), it should be ready for implementation.  Let's just wait at least a few more days to resolve the remaining bugs and verify that everyone's concerns have been addressed.  If I can find the time, I'll try to help out.  —David Levy 13:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Another day or so should be fine. I don't think we need to take too much longer because Trevor is in midst of further tweaking for usability concerns. Further edits can be done with the design in place. Reswik 15:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * What's the rush? Continual significant changes to a wiki's main page confuse readers and make the site seem less professional.  There's no harm in taking a few extra days to make sure that we have everything in order.  In particular, we need to ensure compatibility with all major browsers.  Has anyone tested the page with JAWS or Window-Eyes (the most popular screen readers for visually impaired people)?  —David Levy 16:49/16:55, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Personally, I think it is ready for posting now. My main concern is Trevor has done 3 rounds of edits now (or 4 or 5 if you count several rounds fo tweaking in response to our requests in last day). He seems to be a very patient and helpful person. Perhaps he doesn't mind more work requested. However, I am concerned about us asking too much of our creative volunteers and frankly possibly scaring off future contributions. Further, the strong majority of the community opinion is to put up the page, once tweaked. It is revised and that has been well done. Maybe 1 or 2 things remain but those will be done I'm sure. I think the community can now assume the task of making changes and tolerating changes, which is in the nature of a wiki community, especially early on. It is ok to wait till tomorrow to see if any more comments come up. Feel free to dive in to edit the page. Thanks for you attention to quality in this, but let's do move on with the community's sense please, Reswik 17:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Firstly, Trevor was heavily involved in the English Wikipedia's main page redesign (which took months). I'm not suggesting that we should invest nearly that much time, but I'm quite confident that a few extra days won't wear out Trevor's patience or scare off future contributions.
 * Secondly, I'll ask again if anyone has tested the page with JAWS or Window-Eyes. You've cited a mandate from "the strong majority of the community," but minorities matter too.  If this design breaks the page for blind people (which actually occurred at Wikipedia), it doesn't matter how good it looks to those capable of seeing it.  —David Levy 18:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The Window reading issues for those with visual impairment that you mention are an important useability issue. That review needs to be done. I overlooked that; thanks for restating. Thanks also for information on Trevor's background. I'm relieved to hear that. Minority opinions do matter of course. We have dealt with the mentioned minority issues of usability in Trevor's round of edits today. I think you are trying to introduce too high a standard of production values and review for the first two weeks of the beta version of this project. Once the needed review for visual impairment issues are in place, I think this should be uploaded as soon as tomorrow. If you can think of anything else tangible that might need to be addressed in the design, please explicate. Thanks, Reswik 18:34, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Usability is my primary concern. It's important to test the design to ensure compatibility with all of the major browsers (IE, Mozilla, Safari, Opera, etc.), screen readers (JAWS, Window-Eyes), and resolutions from 800x600 up (at the default text size).  Given that most people seem to like the overall design, issues pertaining to aesthetics can be resolved later.  —David Levy 18:52, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for feedback. I had checked IE and Mozilla previously. I just checked the design on IE and Mozilla in more resolutions. It looks ok (but at 600x800 in IE the right column is long; and in 1152x864 the design isn't as balanced). Do you (or does anyone?) have time to check in Safari and Opera and do you have the facility and time to check JAWS or Window-Eyes and if so how much time might that take? If you don't have time we can ask the list up at top level... Reswik 20:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I can check it in Opera. I don't have access to an OS X system at the moment, so someone else will have to check it in Safari.  A blind gentleman (who uses JAWS) assisted in the repair of the English Wikipedia's main page (which we ignorantly debuted without realizing that it was broken), and I'll attempt to contact him.  —David Levy 21:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. That's great. For next design change (if there is one), it would be good to have a checklist of all the things to check (and associated programs) so that someone can replicate this checking who has not been through it. Reswik 21:31, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Accessibility
I had a few problems with the design in JAWS 5.1, which isn't the latest version but is still a good sample.

JAWS read out the lines saying "edit" which lead to an edit screen for the main page; the confusing thing about that was that the preceding line always said "link graphic icon" which lead me to the image description page for the icon image. The edit link for section headings on wikiversity pages was announced after the name of the heading rather than before it as it is on wikipedia; this confused me at first but I think it makes more sense to have the name of the heading read before the edit link.

I also think the column sections should be replaced with and if possible, so they can be navigated to like normal sections of a page. At the moment what I see when I press "h" for the next heading is: "from wikiversity", "welcome", "library" "Wikiversity in other languages" then "Wikiversity's sister projects". On my first browsing of the page I missed a lot of the information which was not in those section headings. JAWS also reads many blank lines after the end of each column which is distracting. I like the way section headings are used in the original main page, and I'm not too fussed about the heading on "Welcome to wikiversity. -- Graham87 06:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks very much for your feedback! The "edit" link issue is caused by the use of hiddenStructure markup (which lead developer Brion Vibber has deemed unacceptable).  You brought this code's incompatibility to our attention at Wikipedia.
 * I noticed this problem, as well as the lack of and tags. I created a version without hiddenStructure code, and I managed to incorporate and tags in some (but not yet all) of the page.  If you could test this version, I would sincerely appreciate it.  It's located at: Main Page/Design 2.  —David Levy 06:30, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, thanks, that reads a lot better. Another small thing: I think there should be more obvious differences in the titles between Service and Services as the titles sound similar with a screen reader. I know this project is still in its infancy and such things will be sorted out in time; I just prefer descriptive and unambiguous page titles. Graham87 06:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks again for your assistance! I agree that "Service" and "Services" are far too similar, and I hope that we can devise better names.  —David Levy 06:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

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Hello. I am here to learn music theory, fundamentals, etc. since I want to major in Music Ed. I am more commonly known as [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Viva_La_Vie_Boheme%21 Viva La Vie Boheme! on Wikipedia].

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Clarinet

The clarinet is a musical instrument in the woodwind family. The name derives from adding the suffix -et meaning little to the Italian word clarino meaning a particular trumpet, as the first clarinets had a strident tone similar to that of a trumpet. The instrument has an approximately cylindrical bore, and uses a single reed.

Clarinets actually comprise a family of instruments of differing sizes and pitches. It is the largest such instrument family, with more than two dozen types. Of these many are rare or obsolete, and music written for them is usually played on one of the more common size instruments. The unmodified word clarinet usually refers to the B♭ soprano, by far the most common clarinet. Another common clarinet is the B♭ Bass Clarinet. There are many varieties of clarinets including a smaller E♭ Clarinet. Other common and obsolete members of the clarinet include the A♭ Clarinet, A Clarinet, E♭ Alto Clarinet, E♭ Contralto Clarinet, B♭ Contrabass Clarinet.

Since approximately 1850, clarinets have been nominally tuned according to 12-tone equal-temperament. Older clarinets were nominally tuned to meantone, and a skilled performer can use their embouchure to considerably alter the tuning of individual notes.

The Reed
Reeds for the clarinet come in different strengths. They are usually numbered in steps of 1/2. Softer reeds are numbered lower than harder reeds. A fairly typical reed hardness for beginners is 2 or 2 1/2, while a typical professional classical player may use reeds from 3 1/2 to 4, depending on the player.

A reed is a thin, long piece of cane that is fixed at one end by a ligature and free to vibrate at the other. The clarinet uses what is called a single reed and it is directly responible for the sound that is emitted from the instrument. (Apel, W.,(1972) Harvard Dictionary of Music Massachusetts: Belknap Press of Harvard University.)

The Mouthpiece
The mouthpiece is the most important piece of the clarinet, as it produces the clarinet's sound. The reed and ligature are pieces attached to the mouthpiece.

The Ligature
The ligature holds the reed to the mouthpiece and is generally made of metal or leather.

The Embouchure
The embouchure used to play the clarinet can be described as the shape a mouth makes after mouthing Eee-ooo, with the lips stretched and a small opening at the very front of the mouth.

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 * The Workbook for Clarinet

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Euphonium

The euphonium is a conical-bore, tenor-voiced brass instrument. It derives its name from the Greek word euphonion, meaning "beautiful-sounding" or "sweet-voiced" ("eu" means "well" (understood as "good" or "pleasant") and "phonium" means "voice"). The euphonium is a valved instrument, and nearly all models are piston valved, though German rotary valved models do exist (e.g. Miraphone).

The euphonium has a fundamental pitch (all valves open) of Bb, but sounds in the key of C (relative to the piano). The technique involved in playing the euphonium is quite similar to that of the trumpet, in that they fingerings and partials are more or less the same—disregarding register and transposition. However, the embouchure is much more comparable to a trombone embouchure and oftentimes the mouthpieces are used interchangeably. In the United States, the Bass Clef is generally accepted as the norm, while in Europe it is much more common to read music in Bb Treble Clef (as is written for the trumpet).

Instructor: Jonathan Chasteen
If you are not already acquainted with elementary musical notation, please review the Wikipedia page on Music Notation. I will not be going over certain things, e.g. the basics of musical notation, so it will behoove you to know at least the elements of the musical staff. Lesson 1 - Embouchure and breath Lesson 2 - First notes

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Flute

The flute is a musical instrument of the woodwind family. Unlike other woodwind instruments, a flute produces its sound from the flow of air against an edge, instead of using a reed. The most common type is the Western concert flute or C flute (most flutes are tuned to to the key of C). A musician who plays the flute is generally called a flautist or flutist. Thousands of works have been composed for flute. Flutes are used in many ensembles including concert bands, orchestras, flute ensebles, ocasionally jazz bands and big bands.

Playing a Western concert flute
Good flute technique requires that the flute be pressed against the lower lip in such a way that it is possible to efficiently blow directly at the far wall of the lip plate (embouchure) at any angle.

A maladjusted flute is much more difficult to play, and beginning flute-players should invest in a professional adjustment if their instrument is not new. The most common problem as a flute ages is that its pads rot and leak. In addition, rough handling can bend the pads and make them leak. The return springs can also weaken, causing slow or unsynchronized opening of the holes. In addition, the pad-closure mechanisms can become misaligned or misadjusted. Occasionally the alignment pins can fall out.

Beginning flute-players frequently find themselves unable to produce a sound. The most common reasons are that the hole produced by the player's mouth is not aligned with the tone-hole or/and the player is blowing lots of air past the tone hole instead of angling a smaller air stream into the hole. The standard beginning technique is to feel for the tone hole with one's tongue, and then roll the flute away to the correct angle. It is important to blow less air than most beginners want to, but angle it into the hole.

Beginning flute-players also often have improper embouchures: The correct embouchure is a small elliptical or slot-like hole formed by the lips and directed at the edge of the tone-hole opposite the player. The aim should be outward, with faster air for higher, or more brilliant sounds (more high-frequency overtones), and lower, more into the hole, with slower air for lower notes. One reliable way to aim is to move one's chin in and out, but it is best to develop the flexibility to change the relationship between one's lips and tongue and the lip plate, as needed for changes in air direction.

Correct breath control requires a player to emit large amounts of air at times, especially in softer and higher passages, but also requires a player to emit very small streams of air directly into the hole for loud notes in the lower register, which often do not speak if forced. All things being equal, a breathy sound is preferable to a pinched sound, but an efficient approach to air stream direction is best.

Flutes often have some of the most rapidly changing parts in orchestral music. To become able to play these parts, one should practice complex scales and arpeggios in different modes and keys.

More advanced flute-players can also employ vibrato. When playing with vibrato, a player varies the amount of air blown through the instrument at a rapid rate to create a wobble in the pitch and amplitude of the tone. Most classical and some jazz flute players tend to play with a continuous vibrato, though the amount and speed of vibrato can be altered for expressive purposes. Many purists contend that Baroque music should be played without vibrato, or with vibrato only on certain notes. More specifically, most flute methods from that period call for vibrati - a finger vibrato - rather than a vibrato of breath pulsations. The most common way to learn vibrato is to practice breath attacks (short bursts of increased air within a constant tone) as half notes, then quarter notes, then eighth notes, then triplets, then sixteenth notes. Eventually, when the breath attacks are too fast to be counted as separate notes, they become an instant though not yet subtle vibrato.

In outdoor playing, wind can "blow out" players' embouchures, causing the air stream to become misplaced. It is normal practice for the piccolo and flute players of a marching band to face away from the wind in heavy weather. The section-leader of the flutes in the marching band normally makes this decision.

Links

 * Flute on Wikipedia
 * Flute Workbook

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French horn

The horn is a brass instrument that consists of tubing wrapped into a coiled form. The instrument was first developed in France from the cor de chasse, or hunting horn in about 1650. Since 1680, when the instrument was used in England, it has been known as the French horn in English-speaking countries, (although musicians, particularly players of the instrument, generally refer to it simply as the horn). In 1971, the International Horn Society declared the official name of this instrument to be the "Horn."

The horn is a conically shaped instrument much like the cornet and Saxhorns. It has a tapered bore which steadily increases in diameter along its length, unlike the trumpet and trombone which are considered cylindrical. Unlike most other valved brass instruments, which use piston valves, the horn uses rotary valves. Piston valves are of French origin. The earlier horns used pistons, but then changed to rotary valves, of German origin, to save space.

Compared to the other brass instruments commonly found in the orchestra, the typical range of the horn is set an octave higher in its harmonic series, facilitated by its small mouthpiece. A typical horn contains twenty-six feet of tubing (the longest of any instrument). Its conical bore is largely responsible for its characteristic tone, often described as "mellow". The typical playing range of a horn differs from its written range by a fifth, and extends from the G below the treble clef to the F above the treble clef. Although this is the standard range found in classical repertoire, some players can play many notes beyond this range, both lower and higher.

The horn typically plays higher in its harmonic series than other common orchestral brass instruments, where the partials are closer together (and harder to distinguish), making the horn one of the more difficult instruments to learn.

Famous Horn players
Emma Maher Dennis Brain Eric Ruske Peter Damm Barry Tuckwell David Gent Dale Clevenger Philip Farkas

Links

 * Horn on Wikipedia
 * Horn Workbook

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Guitar

Guitar is stringed musical instrument. The guitars can be fretted or fretless. Guitars are used in a wide variety of musical styles, and are also widely known as a solo finger-picking instrument (in classical style or in fingerstyle). They are most recognised in popular culture as the primary instrument in pop, jazz, blues, country, and rock music. The guitar usually has six strings, like the one being played on the left, but guitars with five, seven, eight, ten, twelve, and eighteen strings are also found.

There are also various kinds of guitars: classical guitar with soft nylon-string and a soundhole, folk guitar with steel-string and a soundhole, or electric guitar with magnetic pickups to amplify the strings (pictured). There are variations like the Lap Steel guitar, Dobro, Harp Guitar, Hawaiian guitars, and others.

Local

 * Classical guitar
 * Classical guitar pedagogy
 * Blues basics
 * Basic Blues & Rock
 * Amplifier
 * Musical modes
 * Guitar lessons

Wikipedia

 * Guitar
 * Twelfth root of two
 * Open C tuning
 * Effects unit

Wikibooks

 * Guitar

External

 * I Plugged My Guitar Into A Filmosound Tube Amp
 * Build a Single-Ended Guitar Tube Amplifier
 * Build your own DIY guitar amp from scratch

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Musical instruments/Keyboard instruments

The Organ
The pipe organ was among the first of the keyboard instruments during the Baroque period. It produces notes by allowing air to flow through reeds called pipes, causing a somewhat 'tooty' sound. Organs were very popular in church music, and was often viewed as an instrument of praise. Baroque composers, however, took the instrument very seriously and professional musicians were thought of as very accomplished. Famous organ composers include Johann Sebastian Bach, Nicolaus Bruhns and Johann Pachelbel.

The Harpsichord
The harpsichord is a baroque instrument which plucks a string rather than hammering it, and in this way produces a brash 'twang' compared to a piano's gentle 'plink.' However, it was the most popular instrument during the baroque era, and indeed many composers wrote their greatest works upon the harpsichord. It is also often used as an accompaniment with string ensembles. While the demand for harpsichords is much less compared to that of pianos', many ensembles employ it for the true 'baroque feel.' Famous baroque composers include Johann Sebastian Bach, Antonio Vivaldi and Georg Phillip Telemann.

The Piano
The pianoforte (Italian: soft, loud) is possibly the most well-known and commonly used keyboard instrument in the world. It differs from the harpsichord in the respect that the notes are able to be played with varying degrees of volume. This revolutionised musical history and allowed composers many new possibilities within their works which were impossible with the harpsichord. The piano also has three pedals to change the type of sound it produces - the damper pedal, for increased vibration and legato - the middle pedal, for sustaining notes to enable other notes to be played - and the soft pedal, which softens the sound of the notes. The piano is a very popular instrument in western composition as the structure allows the combination of melodies and harmonies on a single keyboard. Famous composers for the piano include Franz Liszt, Frederic Chopin, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and Scott Joplin.

Links

 * Keyboard Instrument on Wikipedia


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Welcome to Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 17:12, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I wonder if you can help with Wikiversity the Movie/music. --JWSchmidt 20:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, there is a new time frame set for the Wikiversity the Movie: it is 15th August 2009 - our next Wikiversity Day. Are you still interested in helping with the music/soundtrack ? If so, please leave a note at: Talk:Wikiversity the Movie/Music. See you, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 14:32, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

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Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Jbahen. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Jbahen~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Wikiversity:Wikiversity the Movie/Music

Welcome to the Wikiversity the Movie Music Project.

Content summary
Participants make the sound track for Wikiversity the Movie, including original music.

The music can be in any style, but ideally, should have some structure which is relevant to the movie being produced.

Considerations
Music is a medium that can stand alone as a media, or complement others.

Learning materials
Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the lesson (lessons are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing!

You should also read about the Learning model. Lessons should center on learning activities for Wikiversity participants. Learning materials and learning projects can be used by multiple projects. Cooperate with other departments that use the same learning resource.

 * Introduction to GarageBand - a tool for movie sound track production
 * Collaborative audio
 * Wiki Campus Radio - Image:CQ music.ogg

 * Theme music :
 * Instrumental version: [[Image:Wikiwaytheme.ogg]]
 * Vocals: [[Image:Wikiwaythemewithwords.ogg]]

 * Songs
 * "Oops, I did it again"
 * "Tell Me Lies" by Fleetwood Mac
 * "Hanging By A Thread"
 * "Over the Edge" by Zebrahead

 * Other music:
 * Wikiversity the Movie/Wikiversity is a Mighty Fine Ditch
 * Wikiversity the Movie/SLP
 * Salmon Writhing
 * A Cantorial Night Song
 * Absolution
 * Bok Choy to the World
 * ArbCom Song
 * What Kind of Troll Am I?
 * Pony Baloney

Texts

 * http://akamai.www.berkleemusic.com/assets/display/760678/berklee_film_scoring_essentials.pdf

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Active participants in this Learning Group

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Mallet instruments

The Mallet
Different songs require different types of mallets. Here is a few.

 * Yarn/Cord Balls for use on xylophone, marimba, and vibraphone
 * Rubber Balls for use on xylophone, marimba, glockenspiel, and sometimes vibraphone
 * Wooden Balls for use on xylophone
 * Brass/Aluminum Balls for use on glockenspiel and sometimes xylophone
 * Plastic Balls for use on xylophone and glockenspiel

The material used on the mallets makes different sounds. Yarn/Cord balls make a softer sound while harder materials makes a louder sound. The material is also important because if it is too hard, it can damage the instrument, and if it is too soft, it won't make a loud enough noise.

Two Mallet Grip
Hold loosely on the mallet while still maintaining control, your thumb and the first knuckle of your index finger will create stability in the fulcrum

German Grip
Held "horizontally", ie. palm facing downwards, and strike downwards by bending wrist.

French Grip
Held "Vertically", ie. thumb facing up, and strike by twisting wrist.

American Grip
Between the German and French Grips, which the palm is facing about 45 to 30 degrees inside, and strike inwards by bending wrist.

Four Mallet Grip
Some pieces call for four mallets to play. This allows more tones to be played at once. There are two common techniques to playing with four mallets.

Burton Grip
The Burton grip is a method of holding two mallets in each hand in order to play a mallet percussion instrument, such as a marimba or a vibraphone, using 4 mallets at once.

It is formed as a variant of the cross grip, with the mallets held as follows:

The outside mallet is placed and crossed over the inside mallet. The end of the inside mallet is held with little finger, and outside mallet is held between index and middle finger. The thumb is generally placed inside the inside mallet, but it sometimes is placed between the mallets to widen the interval.

Musser-Stevens Grip
Musser-Stevens technique is another method of playing keyboard percussion instruments with four mallets.

The mallets are held hanging loosely, with the two outside mallets gripped with the pinky and ring fingers, and the inside mallets cantilevered between the flesh of the palm at the base of the thumb and the tip of the index finger. To change intervals, the inside mallet only is used. As the interval widens, the mallet rolls between the thumb and index finger such that the index finger moves from underneath to the side of the shaft, and the ring finger becomes the fulcrum of the cantilever. When properly used, this grip causes no tension on the hand muscles.

Single independent strokes are used to strike using only one of the four mallets. The mallet is propelled with a doorknob-like rotation of the wrist.

Six Mallet Grip
A Four Mallet Grip (whether crossed or uncrossed) can be extended to a Six Mallet Grip by placing the extra mallet to the right of the thumb (the left hand being used as an example). This mallet crosses under the mallet held by the thumb and index finger, and is held in place by the middle finger. This grip has the advantage of being fully independent, that is, any of the mallets can be played in combination with any other mallet. Earlier six mallet grips were not totally independent, being limited to basic variations on block chords.

The Stroke
When playing the marimba, the student should stay near the middle of the bar for the fullest tone. When this is not an option, the edge of the bar may also be used. The alternate position is near the end of the bar closest to the player. The stroke is a piston movement. Many philosophies of grip interpretation are still used, but the stroke is generally very relaxed to prevent the sound from being "choked".

The Notes
Notes on a mallet intrument are arranged the same as a piano, and it is the same on all instruments. This chart will explain the notes.

Western Literature
Needs more on Xylophone, Marimbaaa, and Vibraphone Literature and existing adaptations

Unfortunately, composers in the Western tradition did not write much for mallet instruments until the later Romantic era, and few before the 20th century took it seriously (by which is meant that they used it for more than special effect in orchestral pieces). Most self-respecting 20th century composers, of course, preferred to write thorny music -- not so easy to read and not so fun to listen to. This is reflected in their mallet literature. Therefore students with an interest in classical music and mallet instruments may be better served by reading adaptations of older works for other instruments (such as Bach for Bars) or practicing the interesting skill of adapting pieces themselves. For glockenspiels, violins aren't too bad to adapt because they both have the same low note, G (albeit in vastly different registers). Most violin pieces can be played with two stick method, using arpeggios to play more than two notes at once. Here is a list of violin pieces readily adaptable to glockenspiel, roughly in order of increasing difficulty:

Solo
Anonymous, "Johnny Cock Thy Beaver"

Igor Stravinsky, Elegie for Violin/Viola Solo (This is easy to read by 20th Century standards)

Thomas Baltzar, "A Prelude for the Violin"

J. S. Bach, Suites for Unaccompanied Cello (arranged for violin)

(With greater difficulty one can also adapt the Sonatas for Unaccompanied Violin, available at the J. S. Bach page of the Werner Icking Music Archive)

H. I. F. von Biber, Passagalia from Rosenkranz Sonata

Duet
Adi Morag, Octobones (on two 5-octave Marimba set face to face)

Ensemble
todo

Links

 * Mallet Percussion at Wikipedia
 * Marimba at Wikipedia
 * Xylophone at Wikipedia
 * Vibraphone at Wikipedia
 * Chimes at Wikipedia
 * Glockenspiel at Wikipedia

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Music in film

? merge to Music

Welcome to the Wikiversity Department of Music in Film, part of the School of Music.

Department description
Participants study the history of music in film and create sound tracks for new movies.

Department news

 * 4 September 2006 - Department founded!

Learning Projects
Here are the current leaning project in the Department of Music in Film:

 * Wikiversity the Movie/music - participants make the sound track, including original music, for Wikiversity the Movie.

 * Creating music with your PC - participants make music using their personal computer.

 * [[Image:Crystal Clear app mp3.png|24px]] Film scoring introduction for filmmakers (non-musicians)   [[Image:Crystal Clear app knotify.png|24px]]

 * Theses are lessons for film directors and film editors who want to learn to make music for motion pictures. The lessons teach you how to use Apple's GarageBand to create moods for a dramatic scene. Part of the Wikiversity Film School.  [[Image:Mplayer.svg|24px]]

 * [[Image:Crystal Clear app mp3.png|24px]] Scoring for Musicians  [[Image:Crystal Clear app knotify.png|24px]]

 * Breaks down film scoring into the basic steps for musicians who want to expand their skills. After 15 very short lessons, you begin working with real scenes.   Developed in partnership with Wikiversity Film School.  [[Image:Mplayer.svg|24px]]

 * Note to Instructors
 * See: Learning Projects and the Learning model.

 * Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the learning project (learning projects are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing! We suggest the use of the learning project template, by doing  on the new page.

 * Learning materials and learning projects can be used by multiple departments. Cooperate with other departments that use the same learning resource.

 * Remember
 * Wikiversity has adopted the "learning by doing" model for education. Lessons should center on learning activities for Wikiversity participants. We learn by doing.

 * Select a descriptive name for each learning project. Learning projects can be listed in alphanumeric order by code, however code numbers are optional.

Degree plans
See: Degree plan

Streams
See: Stream plan

Active participants
Active participants in this Learning Group

The histories of Wikiversity pages indicate who the active participants are. If you are an active participant in this department, you can list your name here (this can help small departments grow and the participants communicate better; for large departments a list of active participants is not needed).

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Portal:Internet audio and video

Welcome to the Internet Audio and Video Institute, part of the School of Media Studies.

Participants in the Internet Audio and Video Institute study the historical origins of audio and video media and create new internet audio and video resources.

Divisions help schools with many departments organize related departments. See: Naming conventions.

Division news

 * 4 September 2006 - Division founded!
 * 27 January 2007 - Chrismo joins - Film at 11
 * 13 April 2007 - YouTube unit started

Departments

 * Audio Engineering Department
 * Department of Internet Audio
 * Department of Internet Static Images
 * Department of Internet Moving Images
 * VoIP activity group (hands on)

Departments are pages in the Topic namespace and their names start with the "Topic:" prefix. Individual departments can be used by multiple schools. Schools that use (link to) the same department should cooperate to develop the department.

Learning materials

 * Networked learning
 * Wiki Campus Radio
 * Audacity
 * Introduction to GarageBand
 * Wikiversity Reports
 * Podcasting
 * Web 2.0 - creating internet content including digital audio and video files
 * Wikiversity the Movie
 * Hypatia
 * Wikinews

Learning materials are pages in the Main namespace and their names have no prefix. Learning materials can be used by multiple schools, divisions and departments.

Active participants
The histories of Wikiversity pages indicate who the active participants are. If you are an active participant in this division, you can list your name here (this can help small divisions grow and the participants communicate better; for large divisions a list of active participants is not needed).
 * CQ
 * Chrismo

Resources

 * Superuser learning center - A wiki for developing multimedia learning resources and content under GFDL 1.2 and/or CC-SA-Attrib contact User:Chrismo
 * Some youtube videos of an interesting music device: and
 * Vidipedia - GFDL video
 * Freematrix (Open content internet radio stream)
 * Wikinews Video Pilot intro on YouTube
 * SuTree - an online index and library for free video-based lessons, tutorials, lectures and how-to's.
 * Free and open-source repository software - The Open Access Directory (OAD)
 * MediaGoblin - A free software media publishing platform that anyone can run - a decentralized alternative to Flickr, YouTube, SoundCloud, etc.
 * Libre.FM - freely licensed for anyone to stream, download and remix.

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User talk:OneWomanArmy

Hi
Hi OneWomanArmy :-), and thanks for posting about yourself on your user page. I'm wondering if you're interested in working on research-related issues here on Wikiversity - or what would be your main interests here? By the way, despite its name, Wikiversity is not strictly a university - but rather a centre of learning (both resources and communities). Good to have you around - and look forward to working with you.. Cormaggio 22:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I fundamentally agree with the spirit of what you said on Wikiversity mission (though I don't know exactly what kinds of statements you were referring to). "What Wikiversity is" is an almost impossibly complex knot of conceptions of education and personal philosophies - and all that I believe to be a good thing. Some people may 'overstate' their beliefs about what Wikiversity is (and I might have done this myself) - but I fear I've misunderstood your point. Could you explain a bit more? If you feel it is compromising someone who may read this, you can email me if you like. But, ultimately, yes, I believe that we should be challenging oppression wherever we see it - and this is down to the words we use and how we use them. I hope you can continue to raise awareness of the importance of this - Wikiversity is very much in its formative stage (or, generative, I could say) and needs input like yours to grow fruitfully. Cormaggio 09:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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User:OneWomanArmy

Hi Everyone!

I'm OWA. Isn't that terrible? My mother apparently didn't like me. Since this is a Uni I feel obliged to name the schools I've been to:
 * Holt School
 * West Middle School
 * W & H High School
 * Berklee College of Music
 * Simon Fraser Uni
 * Capilano College
 * Shadbolt Centre for the Arts

I'm currently a researcher at the BC Centre of Excellence for Women's Health. I work with some really great people.

I have a second job as an Editor in Chief, which is really not that big of a deal since I do it as a private contractor and I don't get any respect there. I'm hoping to find more work at the Centre of Excellence so I can leave the Editor position.

I love Wiki. It's such a great idea. People all over the world sharing knowledge appeals to my Libran sensibilities.

My Curriculum Vitae:  --Diana 21:19, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

And I love ducks!

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Category:Foreign Language Learning

 * You also may want to see: Portal:Foreign Language Learning

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Wikiversity:Wikiversity the Movie/Multi-lingual

Welcome to the Multi-lingual Voice Track and Text Project for Wikiversity the Movie

Content summary
Participants record the voice track and any text elements (subtitles, ...) for all the Wikiversity project languages (at the moment we have 10 separate Wikiversity projects + the incubating Wikiversities at betawikiversity).

So, what now ?
Perhaps some of you think now: we need some input (script/video) which we can localize. That may be true. But since we are reviving the project again, it is very helpful to identify who wants to help, so we can plan accordingly. There will be a kickoff meeting also.

Other possible ideas are:
 * we can create in every Wikiversity a localized version of the subpages from Wikiversity the Movie - this will help that more people can be reached. Do you want to help ?

Active participants
Anyone can join (if you are rusty in a language why not use this chance to train again ? See resources below):

Resources

 * Language
 * Workbook: Multilingual worksheet
 * Multilingualism

 * Wikibooks:Languages bookshelf
 * Wikibooks:How to learn a language
 * Wikibooks:Linguistics


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User:Alarico~enwikiversity

I'm not a wikimaniac, but I accepted the challenge to develop a small experiment at Wikiversity.

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User talk:Shannonfos~enwikiversity

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Shannonfos. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Shannonfos~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:59, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Dirk gently~enwikiversity

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Dirk gently. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Dirk gently~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:34, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Veemonkamiya~enwikiversity

Your account will be renamed
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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Veemonkamiya. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Veemonkamiya~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 00:11, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Spacey~enwikiversity

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Spacey. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Spacey~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Llull~enwikiversity

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Llull. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Llull~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:37, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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User talk:Koavf

wikitravel
Hi. You removed links to Wikitravel. Why? --Abd (discuss • contribs) 12:44, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Wikitravel links Per discussion at en.wp as well as Meta to remove links at those projects. If you want to keep links and references here at en.v, I guess that's fine. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:28, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks.
I see you got it before I explained. Wikiversity is disconcerting to those familiar with the encyclopedia projects, and the other content-oriented projects. While we do have a content mission, we also have a "learning by doing" mission, which is about people. Our product is not just content, it is education, and there is no education without users who are educated, and sophisticated education is always about process and people skills and the rest. I would argue that the encyclopedia projects also need to be welcoming, if the full mission is to be fulfilled, but ... they developed with a very narrow focus and absent the realization that an environment that was easily seen as hostile would damage the mission.

The 20th century saw the development of systems and skills and process for maximizing consensus, and the only reliable measure of neutrality is level of consensus. (I.e., if everyone involved agrees, 100% consensus, while what they agree upon only might possibly turn out, in the end, to be defective or invalid, there is no better measure!). So to the extent that there is exclusion, to that extent, the assessment of neutrality can be warped.

Obviously, compromises are necessary, but "compromise" requires tolerating a level of damage, and that is easily forgotten. When the importance of consensus being as broad as possible is realized, a community will find ways to keep conversation open, on some level, in some place, otherwise the community becomes locked into what I call the "tyranny of the past." There is a children's song that was part of a therapeutic response to Reactive Attachment Disorder:
 * There is always something you can do, do, do
 * When you're getting in a stew, stew, stew.

Mostly, it involves simmering down, dropping upset and reactive response, and, when calm, communicating.

While this kind of work has been done on Wikipedia, often in user space -- it's what I did, successfully mediating disputes, such that users at each other's throats became cooperative with each other -- this was mumbo-jumbo nonsense to too many on Wikipedia. For example, see, which included many pages of historical function, including evidence presented to ArbCom. I found it very strange that ArbCom did not care that evidence used in a case was being deleted, but ArbCom consists of too many elevated beyond their competence by popularity (as well as many other highly-experienced and thoughtful user; but the system tends to burn them out and they become less attentive.)

w:User:Abd/Dispute over thermoeconomics was particularly educational. In that mediation, a professor was revert warring with Randy from Boise, so to speak, and one or both were about to be blocked. It took very little to develop cooperation, mostly just sitting them down together with some support. Hmmm... I'm thinking of asking that these pages be transwikied to Wikiversity, precisely for historical study.

Looking for the link to that, I came across this. It shows a quick and major clue to what happened on en.wiki. Two three-letter users with a conflict. One was an administrator taken to ArbCom by the other, and the administrator was trout-slapped by ArbCom and then, it is obvious, revenge was exacted, by the admin and his friends. This was long-continued and, while not unnoticed, never sanctioned. Admins can be hostile, this one was more than hostile, he was highly insulting at times, using obscene language, and using tools while involved, was reprimanded, made small adjustments to his behavior, but continued pretty much unimpeded. And, as you know, this is not uncommon. He is even a likeable Guy. I consider this all the responsibility of the community. Blaming people for what comes naturally for them is not productive. Such people generally will modify behavior in a functional community.

Notice the irony. The userbox was "Esperanza returns," referring to the project designed to foster civility and welcome and cooperation. Esperanza, of course, means Hope. So the nominator was saying, "Hope will never return." Esperanza was crushed when it temporarily was inactive. Instead of improving the governance, which was easily possible, it was crushed with vehemence, see the MfD. Why?

To any serious student of human organizational structure, it's obvious.

Wikiversity is the slim thread of hope, and if it is not protected and defended, hope will break.

Thanks again. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:17, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Curator
Hi! I've noticed and appreciated your recent efforts on behalf of Wikiversity. Do you have any interest in becoming a Wikiversity curator? It would give you additional tools to make some clean-up easier. I'd be happy to nominate/support you if you are interested. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 17:11, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd be delited and honored. I started editing here as soon as it was founded and I've always wanted to collaborate more on philosophy. If I had some more tools here, I think I'd be more active as well. Thanks for the invitation. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:16, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Thanks! And thanks for creating the nomination page. I was in the process, but you beat me to it. :-) -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 18:01, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

 * Congratulations! Let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:47, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Thank you again. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:19, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Welcome
There's also. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 00:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Brilliant. Thanks. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Deletion request
Hey Justin,

I was wondering if you could delete Module:Color contrast, a page I've created accidentally. I was switching between tabs with the intention of creating the page at Beta Wikiversity, and you know the rest. :) Thanks in advance.

Best,

Vito Genovese 23:10, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No problem--accidents happen. Happy to help, Vito. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:13, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

Do humans have free will?
Hi Koavf!

The Wikidebate Do humans have free will? appears to be well-developed and ready for learners! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 16:12, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's certainly a good start. Go for it. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:14, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Does everything happen for a sufficient reason?
Hi Koavf!

Does everything happen for a sufficient reason? also appears well-developed! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 16:32, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Go for it. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

New wikidebate syntax
Hi Justin! Just wanted to let you know that I made a new improvement to the software and syntax. It's now even cleaner and more compatible with the visual editor. Hope you like it, cheers! --Felipe (discuss • contribs) 23:58, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Learning bass guitar with Joseph Patrick Moore
Hi Koavf!

Your course Learning bass guitar with Joseph Patrick Moore appears well-developed and ready for learners! Would you like to have it announced on our Main Page News? --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 00:18, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Not yet, please. I'm still uploading videos and fleshing out the text portion. I'd be delighted for it to be featured soon, tho. I'll ping you when I'm done-ish. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:30, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

User:Beogradbulevar
Most posts relating to boxing or chess are from globally banned user George Reeves Person. Typical attacks come when he gets off work between 2 and 5 p.m. CST, and occasionally later, particularly on Fridays or Saturdays. He uses public libraries for Internet access, and typically doesn't post after 9 p.m. CST. It's unfortunate, but we really have to watch who posts what in the mid-to-late afternoons and be vigilant in blocking the content and not welcoming the user. See Community Review/Marshallsumter for the damage it causes. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 14:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Wow. Thanks. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:54, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

CU
I closed the CU nomination due to the low number of recent additions to the discussion. It just seemed like we wouldn't meet the criteria in a reasonable time. Thanks for offering to help with this and perhaps we can try again in the future. We appreciate your contributions. --mikeu talk 19:45, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
 * For sure. Thanks yourself. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:21, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

history of covid in the usa
Hi

I was idly surfing the wsj and suddenly realized all articles I was looking at had a video posted right at the top.(example:https://www.wsj.com/articles/some-covid-19-patients-show-signs-of-heart-damage-months-later-11600866000). The video section is 8:06 minutes long and is a short version of the history of pandemic in the usa.

I don't know how to get the url of the video itself. Can you help? Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (discuss • contribs) 15:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Load the page in your browser and use the networking console--you can usually get this to display by pressing F12. You'll find that this video is served up as a playlist of several bits with the URI https://oms.dowjoneson.com/b/ss/djglobal/1/JS-2.17.0/s04078897862906?AQB=1&ndh=1&pf=1&t=2%2F10%2F2020%2013%3A6%3A8%201%20300&mid=71630168209780702446627362471898499848&ce=UTF-8&pageName=WSJLive_Video_How%20Coronavirus%20Spread%20Across%20the%20U.S.%20to%20Reach%20200%2C000%20Deaths_372&g=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fsome-covid-19-patients-show-signs-of-heart-damage-months-later-11600866000&c.&a.&media.&friendlyName=How%20Coronavirus%20Spread%20Across%20the%20U.S.%20to%20Reach%20200%2C000%20Deaths&length=486&name=AE28508C-C7DF-406E-814F-69C8FAAD1A86&playerName=Web&channel=WSJ&show=Feature%20Explainer&originator=cmccall&genre=WSJ_News_U.S.%20News&digitalDate=original_2020-09-22%2011%3A58_current_2020-09-22%2011%3A58&feed=video&network=115&format=user%20initiated&streamType=video&view=true&vsid=160434036774097779839&.media&contentType=vod&.a&page.&content.&type=Article&.content&full.&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fsome-covid-19-patients-show-signs-of-heart-damage-months-later-11600866000&.full&site=Online%20Journal&.page&video.&player.&type=Web&technology=html%203.41.2.205&.player&keywords=CORONAVIRUS%20RESPONSE%7CCORONAVIRUS%20TESTING%7CCOVID-19%20TESTING%7CDANIELA%20HERNANDEZ%7CPANDEMIC%7CTESTING%20SITES&base.&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.wsj.com%2Farticles%2Fsome-covid-19-patients-show-signs-of-heart-damage-months-later-11600866000&.base&.video&article.&id=SB11126288623532913915004586647794135594296&author=Sarah%20Toy&publish=2020-09-23%2013%3A00&publish.&orig=2020-09-23%2013%3A00&.publish&.article&ad.&blank.&start=false&.blank&disabled=true&catastrophic.&blocker=false&.catastrophic&.ad&.c&pe=ms_s&pev3=video&s=1600x900&c=24&j=1.6&v=N&k=Y&bw=781&bh=776&mcorgid=CB68E4BA55144CAA0A4C98A5%40AdobeOrg&AQE=1 or somesuch (it may not be identical for you). If you open this in VLC Player, you can save playlists as videos. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:09, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Custodianship
Welcome to en.wv custodianship User:Koavf. Thanks for helping. Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:04, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

 * Merci, James. I hope I'm an asset to the community. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Bowling article
Hey there Koavf! I've created that bowling article we discussed at the Colloquium. Do you have any advice on how I can further improve it? Contributor 118,784 (discuss • contribs) 01:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

 * Nice. I don't have any particular feedback other than what I mentioned there. I'm pretty ignorant about bowling. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:26, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair, thank you! Contributor 118,784 (discuss • contribs) 09:18, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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Invitation to discuss page deletion policy
A discussion that might interest you has been started at Requests_for_Deletion. -- Guy vandegrift (discuss • contribs) 17:54, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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Report
Hello, I would like to report this user, who has a COI: Special:Contributions/Oluwadarasimi Morayo

Thank you. Ternera (discuss • contribs) 14:51, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Thanks. It's best to leave these at a board like Request custodian action, but this was obvious spam. Cheers. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:19, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

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User talk:Ningbojoe~enwikiversity

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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Scientific information on environmental issues in the age of digital media/Abstract

This paper consists of an investigation about the past, present and future of internal structures and processes of scientific information production and its management, with the focus on the analysis at institutions of environmental studies. Considering three dimensions of the communication process at academic institutions (technological, cultural and institutional), the research drawn near a philosophical review about some relations (economic, political and social) among these dimensions and therefore examine some aspects of the specialized information production and distribution.

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User talk:Hanarado~enwikiversity

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Wikiversity:Welcoming committee

Who we are
The welcoming committee is an informal group of contributors who greet new users and help them get started. There are no requirements for joining, and no explicit responsibilities—and you don't need to be a part of this committee to welcome new users. However, many of us are willing to spread the odd wing, and devote a little time to mentoring on an 'as needed' informal basis.

We believe that the strength of a growing wiki lies in its ability to attract new dedicated members to assist in contributing to articles and taking care of janitorial tasks.

What we do
The welcoming committee simply welcomes new users. Preferably we should welcome users the moment they sign up, however, this is not a requirement. The intention is that new users will feel welcome and be more inclined to participate productively in Wikiversity.

How to welcome
Currently, there is a template that can be used to welcome members at Template:Welcome. This can be added to new users' talk pages by typing " " on the page. (The template is "substituted" in order to add your signature automatically.) Even shorter, use.

You can also add Template:Random mascot—or use Template:wmas (i.e, to automatically add both the welcome template and a random mascot template.

Also, try to engage with whatever pages the person is editing—even just to say "thanks for your edits to "pagename"". You can check the user's contributions by substituting their username in Special:Contributions/USERNAME or by going to their userpage (even if they don't have one yet) and clicking on the "user contributions" link in the left-hand sidebar. (If no pages come up, they haven't made any contributions.)

Checking Special:Log/newusers can help keep track of newly logged-in users. You can also keep track of this in recent changes.

In general, it is common practice to welcome new accounts which have edited pages. It is not considered necessary to welcome accounts which have no editing history (other than account registration). It may actually be harmful to welcome users with no edits, see the attached Talk page.

See Wikiversity talk:Welcoming committee for current welcoming activity.

Members
See here for active members of this committee, and please sign up if you're interested—this is an open committee!

Tasks

 * Discussion about the current welcome template—see Template talk:Welcome
 * Coordinate between School and university projects and Wikiversity outreach in order to encourage people to participate in Wikiversity - before and after joining up.

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User:BD2412

Away until Tuesday.

Greetings! bd2412 > T 00:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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User:Bd2412
Hi! I noticed your recent contributions to User:Bd2412. Since that's not your account and has no incoming links, the redirects are not necessary. Please let me know if you have any questions. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 19:10, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
 * In my experience (on other wikis), people sometimes look for me at the lowercase title, or try to link to me from it. bd2412 > T 13:48, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

 * The problem is that another user could have that name. If you'd prefer, you can request a rename for your account. See Global rename policy for more information. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 14:20, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No, another user can not have that name, as it would be confusingly similar to my admin accounts on Wikipedia, Wiktionary, Wikiquote, and Wikisource. It would not be allowed on any of those projects, per, for example, w:Wikipedia:Username policy. bd2412 > T 02:14, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

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User talk:EulerGamma~enwikiversity

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User:Topps

Dr David Topps Director of eLearning Northern Ontario School of Medicine

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Topps Test Page

Well, that was fairly simple to do.

Let's see how easy it is to do a few things. How about links to a couple of our blogs?

http://nosmeld.blogspot.com

NOSMobile

Well, that's interesting. If you just type in the URL, then it is automatically formatted. But if you use the square brackets, the link is added but the text is changed and hidden.

How about text formatting? Bold, italic,

big font
Ah, the level 2 headline actually creates a new section...kinda.

Not exactly WYSIWYG but not too hard to figure out, I guess.

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Wikiversity:Creation of Free Online University

 * (V:CFOU redirects here)

This page has been created for discussion on turning Wikiversity into a "true" Free, Online University. Feel free to add your questions and comments, and use this as a hub to find other pages on Wikiversity relating to this issue. See University for discussion about universities in general - past, present, and future.

How does one go about getting degree granting acreditation? Someone has started a very interesting project, but has not written anything down about their ideas. I would like to hear more...
 * Isn't that.. what this is?--Rayc 04:35, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

If one school wants to be accredited, they must submit a request to an accreditation agency who can grant accreditation. It is my opinion that The Distance Education and Training Council (DETC) would be a good candidate for Wikiversity to pursue to obtain accreditation due to the global nature of Wikiversity. Here is a link to their FAQ's page. It seems to shed a some light on the process and the time table. For a better look at the process, DETC's Accreditation Process, very informative.

Unfortunately wikivesity is clear that they don't grant degrees. What Wikiversity is not. I would like to see this changed.

Being that the accreditation request requires the submission of course work, I dont think Wikiversity is ready to begin the process yet, but I would love to see this happen, quickly. Please lets talk about this. Also, should this page outline the process of creating an accredited Wikiversity and should there be a Talk page for this and future discussions? JaK81600 12:00, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to see this happen, if at all possible. Jade Knight 07:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, I think it's a real possibility that should be explored rather than flippantly dismissed before being truly explored. I have no idea where Wikimedia Foundation's responsibilities in such a project would come into play, that may hinder the possibility of becoming accredited RichMac 06:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Personally, I think that degrees and such like should be left to the current universities, and that Wikiversity should serve as more of a learning resource for students currently in education, or for those that want to gain knowledge.
 * There exists the moment already a university which specialises in distance learning. The Open University in the United Kingdom (Great Britain).
 * If Wikiversity was to get degree granting accreditation, it would be considered nothing more than a diploma/degree mill, in most countries.
 * I say leave current universities to give out degrees, and leave Wikiversity as a learning resource. -- fattony_4001 01:28 30 March 2007 (BST)Wikiversity could get around the problem of accreditation by choosing to offer degrees in an area that it is the world leader in: online communication. It could be done by simply looking at the amount of interest a persons web content gets. This would then build up and be turned into credits. If you have enough credits you get a degree. I envisage the degree being like a creative writing degree but marked on popularity. After all the current system of creative writing and similar degrees being based upon the marks that a largely unpublished lecturer gives is flawed. Where as a mark being given on popularity would be far more useful and accurate. After all if the degree was online creative writing then it's model of granting degrees based upon peoples popularity would be groundbreaking and superior to all others. It would also give a was whereby published authors could use their out of print books to get a degree in writing: by putting them free online. This would increase the status of the graduates from wikiversity greatly: they would have more famous successful writers than any other university. After all how could any bodies claim that a wikiversity degree in an area they are the world leader is not as good be taken seriously. They would then lead the way.

 * The Open University is anything but free. And Wikiversity would not be a degree mill if its standards for granting degrees was on par of that of other universities.  This may not work in all nations, but in the US, at least, we have a capatalist system and if those who graduate from Wikiversity are students on par with those who graduate from other (non-free) distance learning institutions, people would quickly learn to respect Wikiversity degrees.  The Jade Knight 11:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Please note I did not say that the Open University was free. As taken from Wikipedia on Universities: “A university is an institution of higher education and research, which grants academic degrees at all levels (bachelor, master, and doctorate) in a variety of subjects.” Also, on Wikipedia’s article on academic degree, it says: “As with other professions, teaching in universities was only carried out by people who were properly qualified.” In the United Kingdom (and German based university system) “properly qualified” refers to those that have at least got a Doctorate (refer to the European understanding of the word).
 * I therefore find it hard that properly qualified persons to, for free, prepare, teach, maintain, mark, regulate, and give account for the course they teach. Furthermore, projects and dissertations currently at universities are marked by the supervisor and one other, consuming two persons time, but getting nothing in return.
 * Wikiversity would also have a problem getting an external examiner system off the ground, as it would not offer any money to get external examiners in, reducing the value of the awards in a number of countries and in major orginisations.
 * Wikiversity also does not offer a stable environment for academics to teach or do research, for example, a used could just delete pages, ideas, or spam ad hominem arguments. Material Universities offer things such as libraries, super-computers (testing of algorithms), unique enviroments for proving things a posteriori, e.t.c.,. Saying that Wikisource is a good substitute for a library would be incorrect, as it can not contain material which is protected by intellectual property rights (e.g., recent publications and academic journals).
 * Also, for Wikiversity to give out the numerous number of degrees and qualifications, then there would have to be an administrations office to ensure that deadlines are kept, and a personnel office to maintain people running and maintaining degrees and records, e.t.c.. This means that there would have to be a system of non-teaching personnel, all willing to provide their services and expertise for free. I cannot see this happening.
 * I also wish to draw your eye to the Wikimedia|Foundation’s Statement of Purpose] which states: “The mission of the Wikimedia Foundation is to empower and engage people around the world to collect and develop educational content under a free license or in the public domain, and to disseminate it effectively and globally.” It does not state clearly anything about giving out qualifications.
 * I therefore urge the policy deciders to ensure that it clearly states that Wikiversity will not accredit or gain the ability to accredit qualifications that would be gained at tertiary and quaternary levels of education. --fattony_4001 13:50, 30 March 2007 (BST)

 * At the present moment, Wikiversity is not close to granting university degrees, nor are all of the problems you mention relevant. In some fields and nations, Wikiversity degrees would be more problemsome than in others.  In the United States, for example, in the field of Computer Science, if Wikiversity graduates could program as well as graduates from accredited universities, they would get jobs and Wikiversity would eventually be recognized as on par with other universities (or technical schools, at least) in that field.  Clearly, if we get to the point where we're issuing certificates/degrees, we need regulatory measurements to ensure quality—this is far from impossible.  Also, it is anything but impossible for Wikiversity students to receive feedback from professionals, nor is it impossible for Wikiversity people to work on copyrighted materials together (the materials being worked on would just need to not be published on a normal Wikiversity page).
 * Before we get to this point, however, I am recommending that a high school equivalency program be established—accreditation would not be an issue; if the program is good, people (in the US, at least) will pass the GED examination and receive their degree from the government. For this step, there need be no talk of accreditation, no professional peer-review, and very little bureaurcracy.  All those who go through the program will be able to get fully-accredited degrees which are granted by their passing a single government-issued examination on their own.  The goal of Wikiversity's GED program would be to fully prepare the student for this examination, giving them the equivalent of a High School Education.
 * When we move to trying to establish a university, we may be able to make an arrangement with other universities, as has been mentioned, or our students may simply speak for themselves. Another option is CLEP testing, whereby Wikiversity students could earn actual, accredited college credit for material they have learned at Wikiversity by taking an externally administered college examination.  It is likely that a university could be found that would grant an Associate's or BA of General Studies to students who have 100% CLEP credit; as such, Wikiversity could create a university degree program accredited by another school, if desired, without receiving actual accreditization, itself.  There are many other creative options that could be explored, as well.  I highly recommend you peruse some of the discussion at the links provided below.  The Jade Knight 20:21, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I like your optimism, using "when" where it is more appropriate to say "if", (no offence intended, just moving back to the current situation).
 * I like the ideas such as CLEP testing and the high school equivalency program. I do not disprove, and I have no problems with your last two paragraphs, it is just your first.
 * My concern comes when Wikiversity attempts to become a university, teaching and saying "This person is qualified". Foresight is not a disability, and in this case, I am just stating the inevitable. If Wikiversity was to become a university, it would have to have a well run (possibly better than most land-based universities) administration team, to ensure that courses where being taught, deadlines where kept, the number of teaching hours of new material kept down, etc, all the things that a good university needs. The other bit of administration I am worried about people forgetting is something similar to an “Examinations Office”. Those people who look at scripts and draft-examinations, and say “that is suitable” or “that is unacceptable”. This office would also be needed to look into plagiarism and cheating, and also state what degrees people will be getting at the end (doing enough credit points in one year, for example). The people who make sure that people learnt something on their degree.
 * I care far less for technical subjects, as you said, “if Wikiversity graduates could program as well as graduates from accredited universities, they would get jobs”. This is true, and will probably happen like this. It is the non-technical subjects I am more concerned about, like Philosophy, Mathematics, History, Social Policy, Economics, etc. where, knowledge alone is not enough to achieve good marks, but also understanding. This is where things like tutoring, contact time, seminars, etc., are important, and I cannot not see Wikiversity providing these in adequate supply.
 * You are right, it is not impossible for Wikiversity people to work on copyrighted materials together, as pointed out, and thank you for that, but the point preceding that one, I do have trouble with. I would like to know of any professional willing to give their services for free to people when there are 1) positions which mean they do less, but get paid, and 2) the people that can benefit from this service at university level have access and the ability to go to university anyway (those people who have internet access or access to internet access). Point two could exaggerated as “the selfless helping the greedy”.
 * I hope that you can see where I am going, and what particular aspects of the "wikiversity ==> universty" problems I am homing in on.Fattony 4001 12:58, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you are imagining Wikiversity to be exactly like a normal university (except free) if it is accredited. If/when Wikiversity reaches such a point, I do not think at all it would be just another online university, but free.  Many of your concerns really may not materialize; they deal with day-to-day issues which come up with dealing with the particulars of running an established university.  We are not remotely close to dealing with such specifics right now, and my expectation is that it will not be exactly like (or particularly close to) another university.  Wikiversity is not limited to courses (indeed, some users think they should be deemphasized!)  It needs no deadlines (unless there are practical considerations that require them—mostly unnecessary, especially at this point).
 * Clearly, if Wikiversity is to ever award degrees or certificates of any sort, a method of verifying skill level would need to be created. I think that when it comes to verifying and certifying skill, Wikiversity should definitely follow a cautious path, and not just throw certificates at everyone who claims to have followed a program (I'm understating for effect).
 * I am particularly interested in History, English (lang and lit), and Language. With language, competency is fairly obvious, at least in its communicative form.  With History, there are issues of understanding that are important to consider, and I have a vested interest in ensuring that the School of History can resolve these issues.  However, this is something the School of History has to come up with—what's good for another School may or may not work at all for History.  However, these areas I expect to be the last to be able to offer any sort of certificatory matter, for reasons which you have already vocalized.
 * Not everyone can afford university. You seem to have forgotten this.  Additionally, all the tutoring and service provided here at Wikiversity is already free.  I have personally tutored students in English for pay.  I am willing to do so here for free in several subject areas to a limited extent.  The key is that here I can tutor in whatevery way or subject I desire, not in whatever subjects I can find people willing to pay for.  I have spent countless hours tutoring individuals in Jersey Norman for free because I am passionate about the language—I am less willing (but not entirely unwilling—I've helped out in the English department at the French Wikiversity) to tutor individuals in English for free (though there may be others who are totally willing).  The French department already has a list of 10 proficient/fluent/native French speakers willing to help teach others the language, and we're just starting.  A German individual gave me introductory lessons in German in the Wikiversity chat room not long ago.  The world is full of people who are willing to teach without getting paid.  I believe one of the users in the History department who has put together a great course on World War II (Hitler's Germany) is a professional educator.
 * I think you're worrying about many things that really aren't issues at this point. At this point, we need to jump in, help out, and work on the short-term goals—things like GED or CLEP coursework would be great, or just Wikiversity content in general.  In the French department, I'm planning on putting together an organized Mentoring program soon.  Let's take it one step at a time, eh?  The Jade Knight 07:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, official accreditation should be pursued via another way. Wikiversity should first become a self acclaimed official institution (and maybe change its name to reflect its basis on the ideas of a certain historic figure?) and then rely on the very people who add content to it to give it a significance in work places and official classrooms. Of course, a system of level analysis needs to be formed and much more content should be added in the form of courses structured as degrees. The people themselves should assign value to Wikiversity studies and not seek the approval of the presently existing, capitalist corrupted academic systems. EugenSpierer. 10:58, April 4th, 2008 (UTC)

Furthermore, rather than concentrating on adding content, I think wikiversity should concentrate on building the infrastructure for a university system, whose main pillars would be, in my opinion, a system of student level assessment (how would you go about doing that is an interesting topic) and a system of peer reviewed articles. EugenSpierer. April 9th, 12:10 GMT

Honestly, I Believe this is a great idea, however there are legal issues with the wiki-media foundation issuing diplomas. I Relive If this is to go through and be a stable, reliable degree program wikiversity and the wiki-media foundation must first official become part of the California State University System, as they are based in San Francisco, CA. This Would Also Mean More Possible instructors as the word spreads, and also some educational funding being directed to the wiki-media foundation. The Possibilities Are endless a student would be able to anted a CSU such as UCLA or SDSU via the internet. Link together all with open source learning content. Also Having A CSU Seal On A Wikiversity Degree Would Make it more "Official" and Not Make this a degree mill program.--Koman90 02:07, 13 April 2009 (UTC) Apprentice Editor On The English Wikipedia

Wikiversity back end, traditional university front end
. Physics/astro courses: a well-developed Wikiversity course that is improved and used by lecturers in several real brick-and-telescope universities for lectures, exercises and exams may de facto become accredited in the sense that universities X, Y, Z and W would de facto become perceived as "giving credit for that Wikiversity course", even though in reality the filter of a lecturer making pedagogical decisions and identifying and communicating with students face-to-face would remain a critical "front end" to the courses, and the universities would retain their own names for the courses. This is more or less what is said in Scope: "... the materials available at Wikiversity can definitely be used by students and instructors at accredited institutions as a basis for the partial fulfillment of examination requirements for an accredited course." Boud 21:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Relevant discussions on Wikiversity

 * Portal:Education
 * What Wikiversity is not
 * Scope
 * Wikiversity project proposal
 * Accreditation
 * Wikihigh
 * Online Course
 * School:Physics/Bachelor of Science
 * Open Source Degree Confirmation
 * Getting a degree
 * CLEP