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Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War/Meetings/2008-March-16

This is the chat from our meeting on 16th March 2008 in #thucydides about Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War.

People joining the chat: Erkan Yilmaz, Daan

15:14 so you read yesterday's log ? 15:14 Yes, i did. 15:14 Much about the plague. 15:14 yup 15:14 and some art 15:14 It was a good discussion. 15:14 yeah but then it ended too quickly 15:14 Pity that the others didn't read the text.

15:15 there must be definitely for a reading group 2 available who read the text, otherwise it is not so good 15:16 Okay 15:16 so, what is the plan for today ? 15:16 lets get your topics 15:16 Discuss the text. 15:16    * The view on the war becomes more pronounced by the speech of Pericles and the issue of Plataea. The Greeks are angry with the Athenians, because they use terror to subdue the Greeks. Pericles defends this terror by stating that it makes the Athenians rich and powerful, otherwise they might become the slaves of others. But even richness is not enough, serving and dying for the state is... 15:16    * Pestilence in Athens. Society breaks down. 15:16    * Pericles saves his skin. Athenians are angry with him for the unpopular war. Pericles convinces them to struggle on and preserve their empire which is hated by other Greeks. 15:16 <Daan__>   * Thucydides gives a summary of the Peloponnesian War. He sees Pericles as a great leader. Athenian leaders after him blew it and missed out on an easy victory. 15:16 <Daan__>   * Local conflicts are becoming part of the major war: Thracians want to conquer a town, Ambraciots take revenge on the Amphilochians, Plataea doesn't trust the Thebans. 15:16 <Daan__>...of the most importance according to Pericles, who has a distaste for easy temporary pleasures and individualism. 15:17 <Daan__>About the group, we could have a discussion on a topic related to the text first fo a wider public and than continue with a discussion among people who read the text. 15:18 <Erkan_Yilmaz>sounds fine

Pericles' speech
15:23 <Daan__>I didn't agree with thucydides on Pericles. 15:23 <Erkan_Yilmaz>what he said about as P. being great man ? 15:23 <Daan__>Yes. 15:23 <Erkan_Yilmaz>ah, why is this ? 15:24 <Daan__>Pericles could have known how the Athenians were. 15:24 <Daan__>He could have seen what would be coming. 15:24 <Daan__>He could have reacted differently on the plague. 15:24 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you mean that they got angry and would deelect him in bad times ? 15:24 <Daan__>If half the population dies, why return to empire-building. 15:24 <Daan__>It is more than that. 15:25 <Daan__>Life became pointless, so why would the Athenians fight in a war when they could die en masse at home. 15:25 <Daan__>He also focusses too much on wealth. 15:26 <Daan__>It isn't true in my opinion that wealth creates good soldiers. 15:26 <Daan__>On the contrary, good soldiers nearly always are the ones who have endured hardships. 15:26 <Daan__>They are the ones who want to fight for a better life. 15:26 <Daan__>Rich people want to enjoy life. 15:27 <Daan__>See America now, a volunteer army consisting out of poor Americans. 15:27 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you mean like people being focussed and don't let them distract by luxury ? 15:27 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you mean American soldiers are weak ? 15:27 <Daan__>No, there is nothing wrong with welath, because there doesn't need to be war or an empire. 15:27 <Daan__>No, they often come from poor families. 15:28 <Daan__>Rich families in America hardly produce soldiers. 15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz>because they have other options to choose ? 15:28 <Daan__>President Bush for instance arranged for himself in easy time during the vietnam war 15:28 <Daan__>Better options. 15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz>here in Germany it is also mostly so, that people don't see army service as a good thing 15:28 <Erkan_Yilmaz>they see it as time waste 15:29 <Erkan_Yilmaz>and what I hear from stories during the service it seems really better not to go there 15:29 <Daan__>In Holland hardly anyone goes to the army. 15:29 <Daan__>Yes, i agree. 15:29 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well we in Europe probably don't need army 15:29 <Daan__>Yes we do. No army is an invitation for enemies to invade and Russia is not a good neighbour. 15:30 <Daan__>But it can be sall. 15:30 <Daan__>small 15:30 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well in times of treaties/pacts it is harder to do such things anymore 15:30 <Erkan_Yilmaz>perhaps with smaller countries it could work 15:30 <Daan__>Holland was invaded in 1940 and defeated in 5 days. 15:30 <Daan__>We had a very bad army. 15:31 <Erkan_Yilmaz>or even better: why a complete army, just make a clone of the leader 15:31 <Daan__>Now we are part of NATO. 15:31 <Daan__>Hihi 15:31 <Erkan_Yilmaz>theory: probably really the Lacaedaemonianns brought the pestilence to Athens :-) 15:31 <Daan__>Or a world government: no army needed. 15:31 <Daan__>Could be. 15:32 <Daan__>But probably not right. 15:32 <Erkan_Yilmaz>world army: ah, not needed if you brainwash everybody from birth already 15:32 <Daan__>Yes. 15:32 <Daan__>Big Brother is watching you. 15:32 <Erkan_Yilmaz>I just look around, don't see anyone :-) 15:32 <Erkan_Yilmaz>are you my big brother ?

influence of pestilence
15:43 <Erkan_Yilmaz>ok, let's continue with Thucydides 15:44 <Erkan_Yilmaz>yesterday Ramac told interesting infos about influence of pestilence on art 15:44 <Daan__>Yes, i read it. 15:44 <Daan__>And on religion. 15:44 <Ramac>:) 15:45 <Daan__>There is a theory that these kind of disasters led to the major world religions. 15:45 <Erkan_Yilmaz>really ? 15:45 <Daan__>The iedea of the afterlife. 15:45 <Daan__>At least christianity with its human suffering. 15:47 <Erkan_Yilmaz>so without pestilence still multiple Gods would be predominant (as it is in Hinduism e.g.) ? 15:47 <Daan__>That is right. 15:47 <Erkan_Yilmaz>who knows they might come back again - in the future 15:47 <Daan__>But somehow, the mindset changed in athens due to the disaster. 15:47 <Daan__>That is right. 15:48 <Daan__>But science is much more advanced now. 15:48 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you mean they became much more egoistic back then ? living for the day, no plans for the future 15:49 <Daan__>A disaster of this proportion would probably be human made, since most natural originated disseases will be more easily defeated. 15:49 <Daan__>Not only, also this focus on the own state. 15:49 <Daan__>In christianity, islam, buddhism and taoism, there is the universal aspect. 15:49 <Daan__>Which transcends the state. 15:50 <Daan__>So when the temporary society andstate collapses, humans still have an identity to cling on to. 15:50 <Daan__>In the Athens of the text, people didn't see any point anymore in the state. 15:50 <Daan__>And pericles convinced them with egoistic arguments. 15:51 <Daan__>Modern political ideologies also have this appeal to the eternal, like liberalism and socialism. 15:52 <Daan__>And postmodernism as well. 15:52 <Daan__>Or science. 15:52 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well wasn't eternity used to make the people calm, endure the barings on the earth ? 15:53 <Daan__>Socrates would probably be interesting to read for this. 15:53 <Erkan_Yilmaz>who knows we can do this also one time 15:53 <Daan__>I think it is a group unconsciously choosing for a certain mindset. 15:53 <Daan__>There is not an elite arranging it. 15:54 <Daan__>Often elites get destroyed by popular opinion. 15:54 <Daan__>I like the Nietzsche: being critical about language. 15:54 <Daan__>(scrapthe) 15:54 <Daan__>scrap the 15:55 <Daan__>I got a lot of philosophical ideas about the text for today. 15:55 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well, pour them out 15:55 <Daan__>I already did :-) 15:55 <Daan__>Another topic: 15:56 <Daan__>The urge by people to help others. 15:56 <Daan__>During the plague. 15:56 <Daan__>You already talked about it. 15:56 <Daan__>But, also the other reactions: 15:56 <Daan__>Doing things that people weren't supposed to do. 15:57 <Daan__>taking the house of a rich family which was completely destroyed by the plague. 15:57 <Daan__>Evolution theorists could say that these are strategies for survival. 15:57 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well, if nobody complained against it, could be done 15:57 <Daan__>I mean: helping others, could be seen as together we are strong. 15:58 <Erkan_Yilmaz>also probably other morales were thrown away 15:58 <Daan__>That is right. 15:58 <Daan__>But did they earn their riches. 15:58 <Daan__>? 15:58 <Erkan_Yilmaz>if people help others, than also the weak survive 15:58 <Erkan_Yilmaz>and then you could use from the large pool each others strong attributes 15:58 <Daan__>Nietzsche is against the evolution theory. 15:59 <Daan__>The evolution theory only looks at certain specific moments of change. 15:59 <Daan__>But neglects the long periods in which nothing happens. 16:00 <Daan__>He also sees that humanity will once be gone. 16:00 <Erkan_Yilmaz>ah, why is this ? 16:00 <Daan__>Sorry, i get to much overblown by ideas. 16:00 <Daan__>Can't think striaght anymore. 16:01 <Daan__>straight. 16:01 <Erkan_Yilmaz>ah don't tell me: is for me the same 16:01 <Daan__>Maybe an example on evolution. 16:01 <Erkan_Yilmaz>sleeping less is not so good :-) 16:01 <Daan__>That is right. 16:01 <Daan__>There is a crab of which the male has a huge claw. 16:02 <Daan__>He has two claws, a small one to get food and a big one which does nothing. 16:02 <Daan__>This big claw can sometimes be so big that he can't move anymore. 16:02 <Daan__>So why is the claw so big? 16:02 <Erkan_Yilmaz>but it must have an advantage otherwise he would be extinct or ? 16:02 <Erkan_Yilmaz>perhaps 16:03 <Daan__>Because female crabs fancy the males with the biggest claw. 16:03 <Erkan_Yilmaz>to make other bigger animals avoid him ? 16:03 <Daan__>It is only about sex. 16:03 <Daan__>Male crabs with a smaller big claw can't reproduce, because he can't get a wife. 16:04 <Daan__>And male crabs with too big claws can die because they can't feed themselves. 16:04 <Daan__>So, is the evolution theory right in this context? 16:04 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well the females must be attracted for some reaosn to this 16:04 <Daan__>The crab really exists, by the way. 16:04 <Daan__>Why are there gays? 16:05 <Erkan_Yilmaz>probably there were always gays 16:05 <Daan__>Why is there misinformation which exists for thousands of years, like christianity and islam existing next to eachother? 16:05 <Daan__>Yes, but gays can't reproduce. 16:05 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well that is true 16:05 <Erkan_Yilmaz>probably it is a mindset like having a certain experience in youth 16:06 <Daan__>Well, they can reproduce, but they don't have an urge in there body to do so. 16:06 <Daan__>their 16:06 <Daan__>There are also many gay animals. 16:06 <Daan__>Birds, dogs etc. 16:07 <Daan__>Many gays act feminine even from a very young age. 16:07 <Erkan_Yilmaz>can't say this - perhaps just a clichee ? 16:07 <Daan__>Yes, but not in the context of the evolution theory. 16:08 <Daan__>But, i don't know what i want to say anymore. 16:08 <Erkan_Yilmaz>:-) 16:08 <Erkan_Yilmaz>we were talking before about that the pestilence brought down normal behaviour 16:08 <Daan__>The good thing about writing essays is that you can think of the best words to use.

usage of audio ?
16:08 <Daan__>Chat isn't good for philosophical discussion. 16:09 <Daan__>Yes. 16:09 <Erkan_Yilmaz>probably audio would be better - because then you can hear from the voice the emotions and get more inspired to cnotinue on stuff where the other person is interested 16:09 <Daan__>yes.

Plataea
16:11 <Daan__>We could talk about the speech of Pericles and the war.

16:14 <Daan__>What i wanted to say is that the speech of Pericles and the acts in the war strengthens the picture of earlier. 16:15 <Daan__>Pericles is much more blunt and to the point. 16:15 <Daan__>The Plataea affair was interesting again. 16:15 <Daan__>That can also be seen philosophically: 16:16 <Daan__>Language is nearly always describing the own side as good. 16:16 <Daan__>Sparta says that it is good, but Plataea doesn't trust the Theban allies of the Spartans. 16:16 <Daan__>Would Sparta live up to its words? 16:16 <Erkan_Yilmaz>nope 16:17 <Daan__>Athens says it defends the interest of Plataea, but athens can't even send an army. 16:17 <Erkan_Yilmaz>they would certainly have to obey a little to Thebans wishes, since they are a strong ally 16:17 <Daan__>On the long run however, Plataea is in between thebes and Athens. 16:17 <Daan__>Yes, and drop Plataea perhaps. 16:17 <Daan__>But, not if he gives his specific word of honour. 16:18 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well the prob is that Plataea is too weak and must watch how others play it 16:18 <Daan__>But words of honour have to be honoured, Athens also has a word of honour, but doesn't have the power to live up to it. 16:19 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you could also see it like: if Plataea doesn't do as Athens wishes, how could Sparta trust Plataea later on that they won't switch sides again ? 16:19 <Daan__>Another question: Plataea pays a high price for independence. 16:19 <Daan__>So, would they be better of under Thebes? 16:19 <Erkan_Yilmaz>with being decimated, perhaps some would still survive under Theban regime 16:20 <Erkan_Yilmaz>so from seeing as a tribe some genes would survive :-( 16:20 <Daan__>Yes, but humans are nearly similar to eachother. 16:20 <Daan__>So, genes are not much important. 16:21 <Daan__>See the example of the crab. 16:21 <Erkan_Yilmaz>well but the clans make a difference between each other 16:21 <Daan__>That is right. 16:22 <Daan__>But the winner of the conflict will lose in the long run. So, winning is not important. 16:22 <Erkan_Yilmaz>which conflict ? 16:22 <Daan__>The good genes of one tribe could be lost and than come back again under different circumstances. 16:22 <Daan__>Between the clans. 16:22 <Erkan_Yilmaz>probably during fighting of clans the best genes will be destroyed 16:23 <Erkan_Yilmaz>because normally lets say the strongest fight at front and have higher risk to be killed (somehow) 16:23 <Erkan_Yilmaz>so at least each clan member should have a child or so before going to war 16:23 <Erkan_Yilmaz>wasnt this also in the film 300 shown ? 16:24 <Daan__>But, women fancy succesfull men, so in a society of warriors, the warriors will have the babies, regardless if they die en masse in battle. 16:24 <Daan__>I didn't see that film. 16:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz>you see it under the emancipation of these days 16:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz>I guess in the earlier days women had to do what they were told 16:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz>so they would also been married to someone not being strong, but lets say rich 16:25 <Daan__>there are some hinduists in India, where the men are slaves of the women they married and have to sleep outside at night. 16:25 <Erkan_Yilmaz>:-) 16:26 <Daan__>India also got atheists in the 13th century or something. 16:26 <Daan__>But, that is way off topic. 16:26 <Erkan_Yilmaz>yeah today we nearly got everything covered :-)

next meeting
16:30 <Daan__>I will be busy at saturday, but 10 is good. 16:30 <Erkan_Yilmaz>lets make two dates and lets select then 16:30 <Daan__>Okay. 16:30 <Erkan_Yilmaz>Saturday 10:00 Am or friday afternoon 14:30 16:31 <Daan__>Yes.


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User:Jjlightning

Hi people,

My name is Juha, but I am know also as JJ. I work as a new media lecturer in University of applied sciences in Joensuu, Finland.

I am interested in contributing to free gaming environments. Over the years I have concept designed some board games, computer strategy games and role playing adventures. I have also some skills of in game graphic design and coding in script languages (Lingo, ActionScript, JavaScript).

A few examples of my icons:

 * Bloodwars-icons (Amiga game from the early 90', Imade all the graphics)
 * FUMBBL-icons (partly openly developed Java-version of the Bloodbowl board game by Games Workshop)

My goal is to search for a game that is constructive in nature. A game that creates something new. No killing, no exploiting, no colonialism, no power mongering!

What kind of a game could it be?

Note, that part of the reason for my current strives is my past work done with different war and strategy games, which I have grown tired of.

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Instructional design/Learning objectives/Examples and Non-Examples of Conditions Phrases

Helpful Questions when writing Conditions
The intent of adding conditions to a learning objective is to provide clarification about what the learner must do and how they will accomplish the performance. When deciding how to word the condition phrase answer the following questions:
 * What tools, resources, and job aids will the learner be allowed to use?
 * What will the learner not be allowed to use?
 * Under what conditions will the desired performance occur?

Non-Examples of False Conditions
One common error when writing learning objectives is to include instructional activities, teaching strategies, or classroom events that precede the performance of the learner. But a learning objective is concentrated on what the "learner" must do and how they will do it. It is not focused on an instructor's performance. For example:

 * After listening to the instructor's presentation, the learner will be able to describe Ohm's Law.....
 * After reading the chapter on electrical currents, the student will be able to explain Ohm's Law.....
 * Given adequate practice, the student will be able to solve Ohm's Law

The conditional phrases "After listening to this presentation.." ,"After reading the chapter on electrical currents...", and "Given adequate practice" do not describe the resources or environment that will be provided to the learner in the performance of the actual behavior. The phrases describe what leads up to the behavior which is the teacher's performance or an instructional activity.

A better example to the previous objectives would be:

 * Given a worksheet with a list of electrical laws, the learner will be able to circle Ohm's Law....
 * Given the voltage and resistance of an electrical circuit, the student will be able to solve for the current (using Ohm's Law)....

Non-Examples of Unclear Conditions
Another common error in writing learning objectives is a lack of specifics and clear guidance when creating the conditions phrase. Remember, one of the key points in adding conditions is to clarify any misunderstanding concerning the performance.

For example:

 * Given a book, the student will be able to diagnose a problem in a Volkswagen air conditioning system.
 * Given a dictionary, the student will conjugate 10 verbs in French.

A better example provides more description about the condition.
 * Given the Volkswagen-issued technical manual, the student will be able to diagnose a problem in a Volkswagen air conditioning system.....
 * Given an English-French dictionary, the student will conjugate 10 verbs in French.....

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With reference to the helpful questions section, choose the best answer for the following two questions? {Which of these conditions is a false condition? - ...With reference to the Volkswagen technical manual, + ...After the student solves ten problems using Ohm's Law, - ...Given a United States Map with the capitals and states,
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Talk:Introduction to Electronics

all the seperation between the 74 family and the 4000B (as called here 40) is not right. there are two differnt of logic family, and there are more. there is no need to make this seperation, and in any case the 74/54 was based on TTL technology, while the 4000B based on CMOS thechnology. that is not so acurate today, since there are CMOS based 74 components like the 74HS (High speed Cmos) and other. so there is no need to intreduce it that way --Gute1 17:20, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Request to change to 74LS series
I am not sure why you are advocating the use of TI 74HC components for beginning students. Though quality and speed are a factor in the design of any circuit, it makes more sense for beginners to use the much cheaper LS series due to the potential to fry chips. For instance, I can get a single 74LS08 quad AND chip from Jameco for $0.45 (not Texas Instruments of course), whereas the chip you linked is $2.25 from the same supplier. A beginning student, not knowing any better, would tend to purchase the exact chip you linked, spending much more money than needed for learning the basics of digital logic.

TEST EQUIPMENT
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User:Erkan Yilmaz/PLE

Welcome to my personal learning environment (PLE) diary.

2008

 * 2008-03-15 the term PLE (I heard this term the first time from Cormac) goes out from my head to others
 * 2008-03-16 starting this page
 * Having a PLE means that anyone has access to private data. Does that bother me ? If so, I wouldn't have edited so far at all under my own name.
 * Please keep in mind all my contributions at the wikimedia projects count for me as personal learning, but the examples below are in that kind special since also "more heart" from me is in them

 * Letting lose of "your" data - it is possession of all now
 * e.g. for the Thucydides notes: someone immediately fixed something -> so the advantage was: I have saved here time already
 * but it took me 5 days to "release" it from my user namespace (could it be that I wanted others to get acclimated to it ? still thinking as "my" data ? )
 * what are other benefits ? getting to know also other people(s ideas)

 * I can access it from anywhere with internet connection or don't have to fear HD failures :-) Even if the wikimedia servers break, probably it can be restored from some other internet page

 * "What are the roadblocks to using Wikiversity as a PLE - both for you personally, and for the Wikiversity community at large (how might someone using Wikiversity as a PLE interfere with the ability of other Wikiversitarians to learn themselves)?"
 * roadblock for me: was mainly a mental thing. What brought the change of mind ? I assume it was because of these recent posts: Juan, Daan - certainly everything so far contributed to it, but especially these two contributions made it click in my head

 * Why I am splitting my PLE locations ? e.g. English and German Wikiversity ?
 * I want also de.WV to develop more (content).
 * Perhaps also because a larger outreach might bring the attention of more people - so we can learn together.
 * Also, if you write the notes in another language it helps that you don't copy + paste so much. You have to use your own language + think more, also when you don't know exactly what one word means.

 * the next step in the PLE: how do I change personally ? Don't just consider content. Learn(ed) from my mistakes ?

2011 October

 * I've also set up my own wiki in March 2009 to use as an instrument for learning, further info here
 * interestingly though my wiki system is more restricted
 * I require account approval (since spam is a time consuming thing when operating a smaller scale wiki)
 * which is also why I recommended larger wikis (e.g. WV) to someone in teachingopensource since they were complaining about spam in their wiki (so they can rely on existing resources - be it for collaboration or helping them in terms of spam)
 * looking back at 16 years of online presence I think the most influencial time on: learning aspects, data, privacy, ... were influenced strongly by WV + its users
 * edit 2012-02-13: federating was another boost in "learning more" in this area, see here
 * also question to WV after reviewing my PLE page again: Wikiversity:Personal learning environment: I was wondering how/if/which people here still use/consider WV as a PLE? + edit a little the PLE page
 * edit 2012-02-13: no feedback :-( + retry
 * What's (the status on) personal learning environment (PLE)? (2011 October 22)
 * started a new section: WV wide: provide meta info about learning, actions

2014 July

 * about this PLE page:
 * I think I was too focused back then to edit this PLE page itself
 * but after these many years:
 * it's just important that one edits pages (not this one)
 * later one will make summaries from all alone (when one feels like it). realizing, that one really learns, takes time
 * User:Erkan Yilmaz/observations/2014 July

examples (chronologically)
The examples below are what just came to my mind when thinking of the PLE - probably when I go through my blog, I will find one or two more.

Thucydides: The Peloponnesian War (English + German)
1. learning goal ?
 * to cover the topic of the Peloponnesian War

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * the learning is managed by reading mrself the text before the chat sessions
 * during the chat I can see what I/we missed to read/learn
 * I think so far I am/we are used to our regular meetings and how they are done now - it will be interesting how it is, when more people join - could it get chaotic ? We should also try audio sessions.

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * by chat (see chat logs)

thoughts
Started by an email in de.WV and it seems to have found its place here now - thanks to User:Daanschr who is also participating actively in the course. I thought at begin: reading group ? Too much time consuming, but guess what, I was wrong - it is fun and keeps you on track.

 * 2007-08-16: created page in de.WV
 * initial goal: to use as a motivation, since quite some long text

 * 2008-01-19: hopeless to get others to participate more ?
 * 2008-02-23: after this reading group finishes - continuing with Xenophon
 * 2008-03-09: making notes publically available (in German)
 * 5 days later: moving out of my user namespace

 * 2008-03-16: we have about 25% of the text finished + 11 meetings so far
 * doing another course at the moment, so I have to take time from this effort here :-(
 * 2008-04-05:
 * my vision
 * I noticed a few times that my motivation decreased, this week I couldn't even finish reading all prepared text
 * possible reasons:
 * I guess because I have a new book now ? Romance of the Three Kingdoms (by Luo Guanzhong) - started making notes for it on de.WV
 * Perhaps we have no fresh people in the chats ?
 * spring weather ?
 * solarflares ?

 * 2008-06: some feedback about the course: Featured
 * 2008-06-18: the more I think about it, one reason emerges from the others that I made a break: while the course evolved over the weeks the actions to create "pages" became more important (+time consuming) than the fun/joy element.
 * 2008-07-19: chat today with Daan - still unclear how to proceed further
 * 2008-08-17: User talk:Daanschr: had the urge again, topic: Peace of Nicias
 * 2008-08-18: want to read today also again more, let's see
 * 2011-10-21: I've edited today on mostly all other topics here but not on this one - somehow I (still) have a little aversion against it (I'll ponder more why)

blog (in English)
1. learning goal ?
 * I think my mentor JWS back then proposed it to me (something like a suggestion, to show experiences), or was it that I saw him using one? I was fascinated to do a blog in the wiki way (also that not so many used one was surely an aspect). Wanted to see how it is when everyone can edit it. What will happen ?
 * (I wrote before: not so much in mind when starting it. I just didn't want to use my normal blog.
 * but I think a small tendency of becoming important was involved - what should I say weaknesses in the past)

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * There were some edits - but nothing longterm

thoughts

 * 2007-09-03: blog started
 * 2008-02-03 - 2008-03-03: bored with it
 * 2008-03-03: revived again for Composing free and open online educational resources
 * So far no bad experience.
 * 2008-06: Thinking to move slowly some of the blog posts from my external blog to the Wikiversity blog. I don't use it anymore much, so why waste money ?
 * first one is this: When did you read ALOUD the last time ?
 * 2008-06-17: What happens with umbilical cords ? cutting the connection: ,
 * 2008-08-05: didn't write recently now a blog post, but I like to post at other's blogs :-) e.g. User:Thuvack/Mind-Logs
 * 2011-10-21 I still find people should use more blogs here at WV (see here for existing ones), since it helps to understand (others you, but also in review you'll probably read your blog more than individual edits)
 * here's a summary over ca. 5 years of software I used to blog
 * and what should I say? I am a wiki child, so the wiki software fascinates me :-)
 * suggestion: what can be added to "teach" probationary custodians

my user pages - explicitly telling that it can be edited
1. learning goal ?
 * Experimenting - I saw this first at User:JWSchmidt's user page (September 2007). Before seeing it I had the feeling a user page is a taboo place. I see this "taboo thing" as an example of a thinking from the real world.

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * Actually I also want others to learn with this.

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * see below

thoughts

 * 2007-09: seen User:JWSchmidt's user page
 * 2008-02-19: begin (de.WV)
 * 2008-03-09: first change :-) Thx, Exxu
 * 2008-03-17: also set up en.WV, en.WP, de.WP - more later
 * 2008-04-19: discussion in: Wikiversity:Colloquium#Talkpage where then was created: Template:Edit page
 * 2008-04-20: edit on en.WV Thx, Terra
 * 2008-04-27: started learning project: Did you ever edit another userpage than "yours" ?
 * 2008-05-01: en.WV Thanks Jtneill
 * 2008-05-18: another user who also explicitly tells it
 * 2008-06-01: discussion about editing user pages on German Wikiversity - hopefully this will result in some Wikiversity guidelines (see also: Course protection policy)
 * 2008-06-02: creating de:Projekt:Ein angenehmes Arbeiten in der Wikiversity ermöglichen to collect technical possibilities, leaving guidelines out for now, should be discussed in Cafeteria better
 * 2008-06-21:, my comment
 * 2011-10-21: it was and is a good decision - I had also much fun with doing this step

Asia (in German)
1. learning goal ?
 * get to know more about Asia

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * Adding links of topics I would like to pursue more

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * not done yet, except a comment from someone who saw the page: "Hey are you on a Asia trip now?"

thoughts

 * 2008-03-01: starting
 * The first effect when setting this up was: I neglected a little the Thucydides project, but I guess that is normal :-)
 * Because of this was started: Romance of the Three Kingdoms (by Luo Guanzhong)
 * 2008-06: Since a few months now I like listening to Asian radio stations very much. Before I listened to mixed music in English/Turkish language. What is so fascinating ? That I don't understand it (yet) and listen more to the expressed emotions ? I carry the wish to learn the languages and perhaps subconsciously I try to acclimate to the language ?
 * one good tool I discovered was this service which helped me find true musical gems
 * 2011-10-21 the interest in Asia did not stop (why? friends from those areas?)
 * in regards to languages Korean feels more like home (than Chinese or Japanese)
 * e.g. their usage of "no" (as e.g. in don't go -> kajima) by adding "jima" is like in Turkish ("ma" -> kacma) it makes it very familiar, see also Altaic languages

Romance of the Three Kingdoms (by Luo Guanzhong)
1. learning goal ?
 * get to know more about the content of the book

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * wanna do regular chat sessions, also check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Three Kingdoms

thoughts

 * 2008-03-22: created the page, let's wait what will happen
 * 2008-03-24:
 * wikisource: translation (into German) for reading group possible ?
 * collecting links (at de.WV)

 * 2008-03-25: translating prologue, see Romance of the Three Kingdoms
 * 2008-03-28:
 * I got a mail that the books will be shipped today :-)
 * begin of translation of chapter1 on temporary place
 * Chinese language (in comparison to DE + ENG) seems quite compact
 * the Chinese names are unusual, hope that with more repeatition of names in the following text it will get more familar

 * 2008-04-03: started notes: de:Kurs:Die Geschichte der Drei Reiche (von Luo Guanzhong)/Notizen
 * 2008-04-06:
 * started editing Wikipedia articles, see extend and create new articles in other Wikimedia projects
 * while doing this, found another user interested in Romance of the Three Kingdoms (ROTK) and I got invited to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Three Kingdoms (see here)
 * so, added myself to the Wikiproject and use now the userbox

 * 2008-05-01: started with the notes on chapter 2
 * 2011-10-21: status: I have read the book some time ago, though I guess rereading will be good :-)

just text pages are boring - personal sound/picture
1. learning goal ?
 * I'd like to create for a better learning experience more multimedia content - just written, static pages are boring.

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * See who uses the files and how ? Do they like them ? What feedback do they have ? Do you get stalked ? Do you appear in a porno magazine ? Do you become a target ? You are considered narcissistic ? Who else does it ? Why don't others do it ?

thoughts

 * 2008-04-19: uploading more than 120 audio files to commons
 * 2008-04-22: video containing pages of de.WV with my voice (feedback)
 * 2008-05-29: Image:Erkan Yilmaz as child.jpg
 * 2008-06-02: info in text form: When did you read ALOUD the last time ?
 * 2008-06-29: a German dialogue which is used atm in en.WV + fr.WV: Image:GesprächVorstellung.ogg
 * 2008-07-26: a comment to a picture at Aesthetics
 * 2008-08-04: Image:Erkan on horse.jpg (never let disappear the child in you)
 * 2008-08-03: Wikiversity Day - happy birthday song
 * 2008-09-01: Image:Img 0079 cut.png - It was an exhausting day and someone still brought a smile on my face. Where are my eyes ? Am I now fit for The Country of the Blind ?
 * 2011-08: I tried to use more ways to get me more multimedia, but failed - I think the smartphones, tablets which are recently hyped may come with better apps to create such content
 * 2011-10: looking back one thing I managed to do easier: adding pictures to my blog posts. Reason was: because I find a picture awakens interest than just seeing a bunch of text

Wikiversity the Movie
1. learning goal ?
 * Let's see if we can identify a common vision, see here.
 * Also it is again a new project I can do at WV - a new area. At the moment I will do the coordination and slowly increase into the various areas involved.

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * Chat, Teamspeak
 * Reading online
 * Identifying resources (human/non-human) to suck their knowledge :-)
 * started already with Wikiversity the Movie/Learning from the past :-)

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * talk pages, Chat, Teamspeak

progress

 * 2008-08-21: new time frame for movie proposed: 15th August 2009 (the next Wikiversity Day)
 * 2008-08-23: contacted users interested in creating music/soundtrack: see here
 * 2008-08-24:
 * introducing a motivational slogan for the preparations on the Wikiversity movie: "Coming soon to a wiki theater near you !" (credits to User:Darklama)
 * searching for additional particpants (announcing at several places)
 * Wikiversity the Movie/Tasks
 * blog
 * 2010-04-05: blog: I'd really like to make a movie, one day
 * 2011-10-21: huge task, surely not doable alone - probably needs a motivation

What can I do better while walking in the wiki-verse ?
1. learning goal ?
 * Most things on this page are about learning some(thing about) content - but with every action I do, I also develop personally. The following below is definitely personal info - but why hide ? Hiding doesn`t help (me or others). OK, in wiki it is not hidden, it always can be made visible again - but why explicitly show it off ? Don't I fear others can use this against me ?
 * Visualize what happened in the past. Make it different in the future and best: now.
 * As it says here: "It is about the P (P stands for people and not - pages or process)" - it is so easy to misunderstand someone in the textual wiki-verse.
 * A notion which needs more: people treat text as if one still has the same opinion as back then, but forget people may have other opinions now. I think what is often missing in learning environments is a review of actions.
 * I also remember this idea: Research:User editing patterns and collaboration

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * Wiki communities should definitely use more (video)-conferences. Are you or I God(s) that you or I know what others think ? You and I just see a written text and start assuming.
 * Wikis are better than using paper notepads. I can preserve my actions and review them easily when I give good summaries (to find later on)

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * to others: please - really - at least use the offered tools - a simple one: chats: old blog post

thoughts
need time to look at all my contributions

 * 2007: When in Rome, do as the Romans do - if not, then help afterwards: 1, 2
 * 2007-04-26: blocking the wrong user (for 39 mins) - thank God he still stayed
 * 2007-11: Please do not bite the newcomers: keep this in mind
 * 2008-01-16: don't overwhelm/shock/irritate newcomers with my Wikiversity philosophy - everyone must make his/her own experiences. Later they will help me change my Wikiversity philosophy.
 * 2008-01-17: there are better ways to welcome someone
 * 2008-02-17: sometimes leaving my profession out of Wikiversity is better - WV is still young - no risk no fun
 * 2006/2007: and definitely don't use it as your advertising platform (further info here)

 * 2008-02-19: I don't quite remember why, but at that time in de.WV there was hot air. Sometimes people just need a thank you so the hot air can go away. Personal thank you's to: heuler06 (I remember I gave also another one, must find it :-))
 * 2008-03-17: Should have given the thank you earlier

 * 2008-03-07: a user wanted to do something at de.WV - but in the end it resulted in nothing - just talks - how could I/we have acted to win the user for Wikiversity ?
 * 2008-03-26: started good, but in the end we had luck to get extended time. This should have had prio before own interests. If I say: "Let`s make a chat", then do it - damn it.
 * 2008-04-06: It is about the P (P stands for people and not - pages or process):, origin
 * 2008-05-09: I am just one of MANY - the majority should have prio
 * 2008-05-27: Was this my ego or my belief ? still thinking...
 * 2008-05-28: when looking back now: I am not sure, perhaps I should have written this on the user's page ?
 * 2008-06-01: one edit can cause so much emotions + explanation to fix the situation
 * 2008-06-18: if you do something then say: "I" or "me" and don`t generalize:, , ... (there are more examples on this page, just digg through the version history :-))
 * 2008-06-23: this, just do it, done
 * 2011-10-15: "talking about" than "talking with"
 * 2011-10-21: reviewing my blog after 4 years
 * snobish behaviour?
 * ulterior motives
 * 2011-10-23: see also WV wide: provide meta info about learning, actions

WV wide: provide meta info about learning, actions
1. learning goal ?
 * see if it can be a more wider WV thing/approach (which in the end means: if people use this also)
 * learn more about me: often you don't think so much about actions (no time, ...)

2. manage learning; managing both content and process ?
 * by reviewing own actions + adding as meta info thoughts, emotions from back then
 * this can help - also with other peoples meta info - to reconstruct actions (on WV) so it can lead to (better?) considerations at similar things in the future

3. communicate with others in the process of learning ?
 * not sure yet, probably by their feedback + reading "their" meta info
 * perhaps also when in the future some researchers can use this?
 * e.g. reconstruct activity in some areas based on motivation, ...

thoughts

 * 2011-10-23:
 * this started with a chat some 2 weeks ago where we talked about projects which help learning (see a little summarized here: rebooting WV, PLE, more thoughts on learning, Review board)
 * I think tools like summarizing discussions is also helpful for this
 * since one will have to not take sides then, but consider "all" sides
 * as well as starting blogs
 * I think it goes into the direction of What can I do better while walking in the wiki-verse ? but I want to use it more to make it more WV wide
 * and perhaps it's just an arrogant thing since people do it already? but I feel people are not too honest when it concerns themselves and to make such things public
 * perhaps the non-visibility is a thing that can be improved? e.g. I could imagine people making comments on all places but it's harder to reconstruct later on when not collected at 1 place?
 * another thought I had yesterday was: perhaps my (strong) focus on PLE will deter people more from this?
 * therefore started this: Creating meta information
 * 2011-10-23:
 * I've started with this to reconstruct my feelings, motives
 * I think also Learning from conflict and incivility/Erkan Yilmaz (2008 September) should be linked since the goal of Learning from conflict and incivility was to "...reflect on a period of Wikiversity activity..."
 * 2011-10-24:
 * todo: make more than emotions here, analyze more: emotions while reading an old chat log
 * another aspect which I never so considered strong back then when writing something is this:
 * the review of "old" things associates more than the facts to them
 * I reviewed now some 3-4 year old blog entries
 * (ignore the fact: that with a comment after 3-4 years the blog itself gets more valuable)
 * this chat log (from 2008)
 * when I said back then: "Well, I just edit, it's not important", that's not true. It's fascinating how you get into a time machine (as I said: time conserving aspect)
 * also the emotions while you read these things are cool
 * 2012-02-13: this does not feel to belong right now here, but a start with thought process

Emergence
to bed one (or was it: be done?) soon
 * Conway's Game of Life
 * Tributes for Mirwin
 * Mascot contest
 * A course on cabals
 * WV:Chat
 * Managing vandalism
 * Wikiversity Day

Topics I would like to pursue in the future

 * try to find influence factors on wikis (e.g. growth, ...) see here - usage of a tool to get up to date data and then support these quantitative data with qualitative analysis (by a human?)
 * violence/brutality in fairy tales and the perception of the reader of this and the (unknown) influence on the reader
 * how would the wiki-verse be when there is no delete button anymore ? More happy or unhappy people ?
 * How about when anyone can delete ?
 * How about when all participants in a wiki have or have not same access to tools ?
 * Who is to blame (is blaming a correct approach ?) that people think (unconscious): WV = WP ? Is it some elements at Wikipedia (which is known far more than other wikis - and that they have and are and will influence (future) participants to only think in one direction only what a wiki can be ?) ? Is it human's own thinking/need ? How can people here at WV still overcome their unconscious thinking: that WV = WP ? Diversity (in opinions) is just interesting.

? ? ? ? ? ?
This section is created to limit myself (when viewing the TOC) not only to the above. That I let my mind wander a little more for more ideas for my PLE.

To Do

 * read:
 * Making Wikiversity a personal learning space
 * on the ple
 * History of personal learning environments

 * blog: search for other PLEs

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User talk:Dorai080

Welcome
Hello Dorai080, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may
 * Take a guided tour and learn to edit;
 * Explore our learning projects;
 * Browse our portals, schools, and research activities;
 * Read and help develop our community policies；or
 * Chat with other Wikiversitans on #wikiversity-en.

And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold, and see you around Wikiversity! Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  21:40, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

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Category:PLE

This page collects data on Wikiversity about Personal Learning Environments (PLEs).

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User talk:Shahlatifg

Welcome
Hello Shahlatifg, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may
 * Take a guided tour and learn to edit;
 * Explore our learning projects;
 * Browse our portals, schools, and research activities;
 * Read and help develop our community policies；or
 * Chat with other Wikiversitans on #wikiversity-en.

And don't forget to explore Wikiversity with the links to your left. Be bold, and see you around Wikiversity! --mikeu talk 01:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

How can I start my e-mail that is outdated
I'm not sure what kind of help you need. Try clicking here and explaining the question in more detail so that someone can help you find the answer. --mikeu talk 01:41, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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Art Studies and History

This institute is for scholars wishing to pursue the analysis and methodology behind visual and performing arts. Anybody interested in having an educated opinion when criticizing films, art, or dance needs first understand its history and patterns, symbols and icons. Departments in the Art Studies and History subdivision include, but are by no means limited to, cinema studies and art history. Whether to compare German Expressionism and Italian neorealism, write a review about a Jackson Pollock piece, or fully appreciate the religious iconography in European medieval art, this department is here at your disposal.

This is a content development project where Wikiversity participants create, organize and develop learning resources for Art History.

Learning resources

 * Introduction to Art History-- M. Davis
 * The Mona Lisa

In development

 * What is Art?

 * Modernism

 * Art movements

 * Art practices

Learning Projects
See: Learning Projects and the Wikiversity:Learning model

Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the learning project (learning projects are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing! We suggest the use of the learning project template, by doing on the new page.

Learning materials and learning projects can be used by multiple departments. Cooperate with other departments that use the same learning resource. Remember, Wikiversity has adopted the "learning by doing" model for education. Lessons should center on learning activities for Wikiversity participants. We learn by doing. Select a descriptive name for each learning project. Learning projects can be listed in alphanumeric order by code, however code numbers are optional.

Active participants
Active participants in this Learning Group

The histories of Wikiversity pages indicate who the active participants are. If you are an active participant in this department, you can list your name here (this can help small departments grow and the participants communicate better; for large departments a list of active participants is not needed).

 * Dx (discuss • contribs) 20:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

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Wikiversity:Meetup

Regular (or more spontaneous) face-to-face meetings of Wikimedians take place in cities around the world. This page is used as a starting point for Wikimedians organising meetups. If you know of a local meetup in your area, list it here to inform Wikiversity participants about it.

Asia
Chinese -
 * Taiwan, Taichung City

Europe

 * French Wikiversity coordination site
 * German Wikiversity coordination site

Middle East
Israel

Oceania

 * Western Australia, Perth

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Composing free and open online educational resources/2008/Participants

new cycle to begin
If you want, you can join here for the next cycle of the course.

Participants
This section lists participants of the Composing free and open online educational resources course between March and May, 2008.

The course started on March 3rd 2008, and there were about 70 people who initially registered. We hope that if you, for a reason or another, drop-out from the course you will remove your information from the participants page.

Active participants

 * 1) Cormac Lawler (User:Cormaggio) : cormaggiogmail com : http://cormaggio.org - COMPLEMENTARY WORK REQUIRED(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 2) Erkan Yilmaz - email (if you have a Wikiversity account, you can email me) - http://www.IaskQuestions.com : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 3) Marjut Siro / User:MalluS : mallu.sirogmail com : http://omataide.blogspot.com/ COMPLEMENTARY WORK REQUIRED(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 4) Mark Nichols /User: Nichthus: nichthusgmail com: http://archive.is/20121130143119/ebcnzer.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 5) Janet Hopkins / User:JHopkins: at_consultingbcyahoo.ca: http://jlh-jlh.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 6) Ari Haaranen / User:hard-e: arihaaranengmail.com: http://free-e-learner.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 7) Stew Jean/ user: stewjean: stewjeangmail.com: http://stewjean.wordpress.com/
 * 8) Keith Bryant/ user:keibr /keith.bryantcfl.se http://keithsworkblog.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 9) Annika Linder / User:Annika : annika.linder-airavauiah fi : http://kommednu.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 10) Noura Raslan/user:NouraRaslan : noura_raslanwindowslive.com http://n4w4c4.wordpress.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 11) Luca Botturi/user:luca / luca.botturigmail.com / http://bombadilgames.blogspot.com : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 12) Jan Svärdhagen/user:kaffemannen/ jsvdu.se / http://svardhagen.blogspot.com : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 13) Rose Eriksson/ user: rosmareri/ rose.erikssoncfl.se/ http://rosmareri.wordpress.com : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 14) Jean-Marie Gilliot (User:JmG) : jmgabrestgmail com : http://coursrol.blogspot.com COMPLEMENTARY WORK REQUIRED(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 15) Susanne Rinderer / User:Susanne : susanne.rinderergmx at : http://s-wikiversity.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 16) Juha Valonen / User:Jjlightning : jjlightningliukuma net : http://www.liukuma.net/liukuma/blog/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 17) Anica Petkoska User: anicap: anicapetkoskagmail.com: http://anicape.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 18) Bonifatius D. Pandojo / User:bonifatius : bonifatius_d<at>hotmail.com : http://greatexplorer-cool.blogspot.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 19) Barbara Braun / User: Barbara.braun : barbara.braun<at>email.de : http://barbsoer.wordpress.com/ : PASS(--Teemu 20:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC))
 * 20) 88.195.192.248 18:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Self-paced participants
This section lists participants of the Composing free and open online educational resources who are doing self-paced study during 2008.

 * 1) James Neill / User:Jtneill : james<at>wilderdom.com : WV
 * 2) Enric Senabre Hidalgo / (User:Esenabre): esenabre<at>gmail com : http://www.estigmergia.net/en/w/index.php?title=Wlog
 * 3) Mike Martin / User:Miraymart: smartmmart<at>hotmail.co.uk : http://miraymart.wordpress.com/
 * 4) Peter Rawsthorne / User:Prawstho : wikieducator profile : peter<at>rawsthorne.org : http://infohargamesin.blogspot.com/

Inactive participants
This section lists participants of the Composing free and open online educational resources course who have posted more that just their personal introduction but have not been active for several weeks. If you want to do self-paced study, then please move your name to the section above.

 * 1) Gerald A / Historybuff: geraldablists<at>gmail.com User:Historybuff/oerblog
 * 2) Camila Dantas/ user:cdantas/camilagdantas<at>yahoo.com.br/http://opassadoembits.wordpress.com/
 * 3) Mirka Jokela/ user:Reppuli : kaksimerta<at>yahoo.com http://reppuli.wordpress.com/
 * 4) Nikolaos Kourakos/user:snadek / snadek<at>gmail.com / http://wikieducationgr.blogspot.com
 * 5) Michelle Butterworth michelle<at>myiq.co.za http://myiqforever.blogspot.com
 * 6) Sylvia Riessner/user: sriessner / Yukonsyl<at>gmail.com / http://dl1.yukoncollege.yk.ca/sylPLE
 * 7) Jeroen Clemens / User:Jeroencl : jeroencl<at>gmail.com : http://jeroencl.blogspot.com/
 * 8) Eve Lamberg / User:lamberg : lamberg<at>ebs .ee : http://evelambergblog.blogspot.com/
 * 9) Anoush Rima Tatevossian / User: artate : artate<at>gmail.com : http://globalcurator.blogspot.com
 * 10) Elena Safiulina/ User: safilena : elena.safiulina<at>mail.ee : http://safilena-oercourse.blogspot.com
 * 11) Jim King / User:JimKing : leprofesseur101<at>gmail.com  :  http://leprofesseur101.blogspot.com/

Facilitators

 * 1) Teemu Leinonen / User:Teemu : teemu.leinonen<at>taik fi : http://oercourse.wordpress.com/
 * 2) Hans Poldoja / User:Hans_Poldoja : hans.poldoja<at>taik fi : http://www.hanspoldoja.net

Feeds
If you get your feed working please, announce teemu (teemu.leinonen<at>taik fi) and he will add your blog to the jaiku channel.

Jaiku
All the feeds are now in the http://jaiku.com/channel/oercourse, except those marked "No blog / feed found"

Bloglines/OPML

 * There is some confusion about what is the official feed - on the main course talk page there is discussion about not using the jaiku feed, and instead using bloglines and the exportable opml feed.
 * I (Prawstho 23:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)) created the bloglines feed so I could export all the student blogs (RSS feeds) to a single file and import all these RSS feeds to my google reader. I never found that the jaiku feed worked...

Google Reader
Yesterday I fed the OPML list (not sure how up to date it is) into Google Reader, created a folder, and shared it: -- Jtneill - Talk 00:05, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * |Google Reader (oercourse)
 * XML feed: http://www.google.com/reader/public/atom/user/01739143391712477313/label/oercourse.


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Talk:Composing free and open online educational resources/2008/Participants

only external blogs?
There are also blogs on Wikiversity: Category:Blogs, see also Wikiversity Blog howto Erkan Yilmaz ( Wikiversity:Chat, wiki blog ) 19:45, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

moved page

 * so that it includes participants (plural) in title. -- Jtneill - Talk 02:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much - interesting nobody else did this before :-) Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  08:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

changed participant status
My available time has become quite restrained. I moved myself to the self-paced participants group. I trust this is ok with the course facilitators. - Prawstho 14:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


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Talk:The Advancement of Tertiary Teaching and Learning/Free Knowledge Communities and FLOSS in Education

feel free to grab resources or examples from these

 * http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/FOSSlike_collaboration_in_schools/Resources
 * http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Schools_and_FLOSS
 * http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Schools_and_FLOSS/Australian_schools_and_FLOSS
 * http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Education_and_collaboration

lucychili 03:17, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

The original (late 2005) of this page got lost at some stage when pages were shifted between Wikibooks and Wikiversity (mid 2006).

This might be of interest to authors. Ktucker 08:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


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User:Niwantha

Iam Niwantha .. Basically i would like to hang around here for sharing various experience, which is absolutely important

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User:Kurihaya

wikipedia:ja:User:Kurihaya

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User talk:Niwantha

Welcome
Hello Niwantha, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may
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User talk:Sdaviscu

Welcome
Hello Sdaviscu, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To get started, you may
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BCP/Crocus tommasinianus

Crocus tommasinianus

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BCP/Crocus tommasinianus/Logs

2008 Logs

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Recent Logs

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Wikiversity talk:Meetup

Wikimedian Demographics
I am not sure to what extent the Wikimedian Demographics survey could be used ? E.g. the resident + citizen categories ? Or a new survey pointing to here ? Erkan Yilmaz Wikiversity:Chat  09:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

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User:SBJ/Bloom clock multi-location

To record blooms for multiple locations (for example while on vacation, if you are regularly logging from regions more than 30 milea apart, or are logging in mountainous regions with radically different subclimates), please use an alternate account. While it's not necessary to actually log from this account (you could instead just copy and paste signatures using (five tildes adds the date only), starting up the account allows us to have a unique username to associate with those logs, allowing robotic data-mining in the future. Make sure it is a "real" account as well, so that the username is not taken up unknowingly be someone else in the future. In general, it's best to use a variant of your main username (see, e.g., User:SB_Johnny vs. User:SB Johnny-LM).

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Mandarin/The 400 characters

This is an indext to characters in the book « Methode d'Initiation à la Langue et à l'Écriture Chinoises » by Joël Bellassen et Zhang Pengpeng. The characters are listed by alphabetical order of the pīnyīn and divided in groups of 10. There is also reference to the number of the chapter and the page on which one can find the character. According to Bellassen, the knowledge of these 400 characters enables you to understand two-thirds of the characters in modern Chinese texts.

à
 啊  ā, à, a - [chanson p246]

 爱  ài - [1.4 p86]

 安  ān - [2.6 p170]

 八  bā - [chiffre p40]

 把  bǎ, bà, bá - 3.5 [p225]

 吧  ba - [2.3 p140]

 白  bái - [2.5 p160]

 百  bǎi - [chiffre p40]

 班  bān - [2.2 p131]

 半  bàn - [2.2 p131]

bàn

办  bàn - s’occuper (d’une affaire)[3.5 p229]

包  bāo - [3.1 p186]

报  bào - [2.1 p118]

杯  bēi - [1.5 p96]

北  běi - [1.1 p48/1.3 p45/p73]

本  běn, bén - [0 p24]

比  bǐ - [3.1 p186]

笔  bǐ - [3.2 p197]

边  biān, bian - [2.3 p140]

便  biàn, pián - [3.6 p239]

biàn

遍  biàn - [chanson]

别  bié - autre ; ne pas… ![3.3 p207]

病  bìng - maladie [3.4 p219]

不  bù, bú - [1.1 p48]

才  cái - [3.1 p186]

菜  cài - [2.5 p160]

茶  chá - [1.5 p96]

差  chā, chà, chāi - [3.5 p229]

长  cháng, zhǎng, zháng - [2.2 p131 ]

常  cháng - [3.3 p207]

cháng

场 cháng, chǎng - [3.3 p207]

唱 chàng - [3.6 p239]

车 chē - [1.6 p106]

成 chéng - [3.6 p239]

城 chéng - [3.3 p207]

吃 chī - [2.3 p140]

出 chū - [2.4 p150]

处 chǔ, chù - [chanson]

川 chuān - [2.3 p140]

春 chūn - [3.3 p207]

cì

次 cì - [3.3 p207]

从 cóng - [2.6 p170]

错 cuò - [2.5 p160]

打 dá, dǎ, dà - [2.4 p150]

大 dà, dài - [1.1 p48]

带 dài - [3.5 p229]

当 dāng, dàng - [3.6 p239]

到 dào - [2.1 p118]

道 dào - [2.3 p140  ]

的 de, dí, dì - [1.2 p56]

6.0

得 dé, de, děi - [1.2,5]

等 děng - [3.5 p229]

底 dǐ - [TI3]

地 de, dì - [1.3 p76]

第 dì - [chiffre p40]

点 diǎn - [1.5 p96]

电 diàn - [2.4 p150]

店 diàn - [3.1 p186]

丁 dīng - [3.1 p186]

定 dìng - [3.4 p219]

7.0

冬 dōng - [1.2 p56 ]

东 dōng - [1.3 p76]

懂 dǒng - [2.2 p131]

动 dòng- [3.6 p239]

都 dōu, dū - [1.2,5]

对 duì - [3.1 p186]

多 duō - [2.1 p118 ]

饿 è - [2.5 p160]

儿 ér - [1.1 p48]

二 èr - [chiffre p40]

8.0

发 fā , fà - [3.2 p197]

法 fǎ - [0,5 p32]

饭 fàn - [2.3 p140]

方 fāng - [1.4 p86]

房 fáng - [2.4 p150]

放 fàng - [3.1 p186]

非 fēi , Fēi  -  [1.6 p106 ]

飞 fēi -  [1.6 p106]

分 fēn , fèn -  [2.6 p170]

份 fèn - [2.5 p160  ]

9.0

风 fēng , fèng - [3.3 p207]

夫 fū , fù - [3.4 p219]

服 fú, fù - [3.5 p229]

父 fù - [3.1 p186]

干 gān , gàn - [2.4 p150]

刚 gāng - [2.4 p150]

钢 gāng - [3.2 p197]

高 gāo - [3.1 p186]

告 gào - [TI3]

哥 gē - [2.4 p150]

10.0

歌 gē -  [3.6 p239]

个 gè - [1.4 p86]

给 gěi, jǐ - [2.4 p150]

跟 gēn - [2.4 p150]

更 gēng, gèng - [3.1 p186]

工 gōng - [1.4 p86]

公 gōng - [3.3 p207]

共 gòng - [3.5 p229]

古 gǔ , gú - [2.5 p160 ]

关 guān - [3.1 p186]

11.0

馆 guǎn - [1.5 p96]

光 guāng - [chanson]

广 guǎng - [3.3 p207]

贵 guì - [1.1 p48]

国 guó - [1.1 p48]

果 guǒ - [3.1 p186]

过 guò, guo - [1.3 p76]

还 hái, huán - [1.5 p96/2.1]

孩 hái - [1.4 p86]

海 hǎi - [1.4 p86]

12.0

汉 hàn - [1.2,5]

好 hǎo, hào - [1.2,5]

喝 hē , hè - [1.5 p96]

河 hé, hén - [2.3 p140]

和 hé, huò - [3.1 p186]

黑 hēi, héi - [1.5 p96]

很 hěn - [0 p24]

红 hóng - [1.5 p96 ]

后 hòu - [2.6 p170 ]

候 hòu, hǒu - [1.6 p106   ]

13.0

湖 hú - [2.3 p140 ]

虎 hǔ - [2.2 p131]

花 huā - [1.5 p96 ]

画 huà - [2.1 p118   ]

化 huà - [3.3 p207 ]

话 huà - [2.2 p131]

欢 huān, huāng - [1.5 p96]

黄 huáng  - [2.3 p140]

回 huí - [1.4 p86]

会 huì, kuài - [2.2 p131]

14.0

活 huó - [3.1 p186]

火 huǒ , huó - [1.6 p106]

机 jī - [1.6 p106]

鸡 jī - [2.5 p160]

几 jī , jǐ  - [1.4 p86]

己 jǐ - [3.5 p229]

家 jiā - [1.4 p86]

间 jiān , jiàn  -  [2.1 p118  ]

见 jiàn - [2.1 p118 ]

江 jiāng - [2.3 p140]

15.0

讲 jiǎng - [3.2 p197]

饺 jiǎo - [2.5 p160 ]

叫 jiào - [1.1 p48]

教 jiāo, jiào - [2.1 p118]

今 jīn - [1.6 p106]

金 jīn - [3.6 p239]

近 jìn - [2.1 p118 ]

进 jìn - [2.4 p150]

京 jīng - [1.3 p76]

九 jiǔ - [chiffre p40 ]

16.0

酒 jiǔ - [1.5 p96]

久 jiǔ - [2.1 p118]

就 jiù, jiǔ - [2.6 p170]

旧 jiù - [3.6 p239]

觉 jiào, jué - [3.2 p197]

开 kāi - [1.5 p96]

看 kān, kàn - [1.3 p76]

可 kě - [1.5 p96]

课 kè - [2.2 p131]

刻 kè- [3.6 p239]

17.0

孔 kǒng - [2.3 p140]

口 kǒu - [1.4 p86]

快 kuài - [2.5 p160]

筷 kuài - [2.3 p140]

块 kuài - [2.6 p170]

来 lái, lǎi - [1.6 p106 ]

老 lǎo - [1.2 p56 ]

乐 lé, lè - [1.5 p96]

了 le, liǎo - [1.6 p106  /2.1/2.2]

累 léi, lěi, lèi - [TI2]

18.0

冷 lěng - [3.3 p207]

离 lí - [2.4 p150]

李 lǐ - [0,5 p32]

里 lǐ - [2.1 p118 ]

立 lì - [1.1 p48]

连 lián - [TI3]

凉 liáng, liàng - [1.5 p96]

两 liǎng - [chiffre p40]

辆 liàng - [3.6 p239]

〇 líng - [chiffre p40]

19.0

零 líng - [chiffre p40]

六 liù - [chiffre p40]

龙 lóng - [3.4 p219]

楼 lóu - [2.4 p150]

路 lù - [2.6 p170]

马 mǎ, mǎn - [0 p24]

吗 má, mǎ, ma - [0 p24]

买 mǎi - [1.6 p106 ]

卖 mài - [TI3]

慢 màn - [2.5 p160]

20.0

忙 máng - [3.2 p197]

毛 máo, mǎo - [2.6 p170]

么 me, yāo - [1.1 p48]

没 méi, mò - [1.3 p76]

美 měi - [0,5 p32]

每 měi - [3.2 p197]

门 mén - [2.6 p170]

们 men - [2.5 p160]

梦 mèng - [TI2]

米 mǐ - [2.5 p160]

21.0

面 miàn - [3.1 p186]

民 mín - [2.1 p118]

名 míng - [1.1 p48]

明 míng - [2.4 p150]

母 mǔ - [3.1 p186]

拿 ná - [3.5 p229]

哪 nǎ - [0,5 p32]

那 nà - [1.2 p56/2.3]

男 nán - [1.4 p86]

南 nán -  [1.3 p76  ]

22.0

难 nán, nàn -  [3.2 p197]

脑 nǎo -  [3.4 p219]

呢 ne, ní - [1.2,5/2.4]

能 néng - [2.2 p131]

你 nǐ - [0,5 p32]

年 nián - [date p40/1,6 p106]

念 niàn - [2.2 p131  ]

鸟 niǎo -  [TI1]

您 nín -  [1.1 p48  ]

牛 niú, niǔ -  [2.5 p160  ]

23.0

女 nǚ - [1.4 p86]

旁 páng - [3.6 p239]

朋 péng - [2.1 p118]

皮 pí, pī - [TI3]

片 piān, piàn - [3.1 p186]

票 piào - [1.6 p106]

平 píng - [3.6 p239]

七 qī - [chiffre p40]

期 qī - [date p40]

骑 qí - [3.6 p239]

24.0

起 qǐ - [3.4 p219]

气 qì, qí - [3.3 p207]

汽 qì - [2.6 p170]

千 qiān - [chiffre p40]

前 qián - [2.6 p170]

钱 qián - [2.6 p170]

亲 qīn - [3.1 p186]

轻 qīng - [3.5 p229]

请 qǐng - [2.4 p150]

秋 qiū - [3.3 p207]

25.0

区 qū - [3.3 p207]

去 qù - [1.1 p48]

然 rán - [3.6 p239]

让 ràng - [3.4 p219]

热 rè - [3.3 p207]

人 rén - [0,5 p32]

认 rèn - [2.1 p118 ]

日 rì, rù - [1.1 p48]

肉 ròu - [2.5 p160]

如 rú - [3.1 p186]

26.0

三 sān, sán - [chiffre p40]

色 sè, shǎi - [TI1]

山 shān - [1.3 p76]

商 shāng - [3.1 p186]

上 shàng - [1.4 p86]

少 shǎo, shào, shǒu - [1.6 p106]

谁 shéi, shuí - [1.2 p56]

身 shēn - [3.2 p197]

什 shén, shí - [1.1 p48]

生 shēng - [1.2 p56]

27.0

声 shēng - [3.1 p186]

升 shēng - [3.6 p239]

师 shī - [1.2 p56]

十 shí - [chiffre p40]

时 shí - [1.6 p106]

识 shí - [2.1 p118]

始 shǐ - [3.4 p219]

是 shì - [0,5 p32]

事 shì - [2.4 p150]

市 shì - [3.3 p207]

28.0

室 shì - [3.5 p229]

收 shōu - [3.5 p229]

手 shǒu - [3.5 p229]

书 shū, chū -  [1.2 p56  ]

水 shuǐ, shuì - [1.5 p96]

睡 shuì - [TI2]

说 shuō - [1.2,5]

思 sī - [3.2 p197]

四 sì - [chiffre p40]

诉 sù - [TI3]

29.0

算 suàn - [TI3]

虽 suī - [3.6 p239]

岁 suì - [2.1 p118 ]

所 suǒ -[3.5 p229]

他 tā - [0,5 p32]

她 tā - [1.4 p86]

它 tā - [TI2]

太 tài - [2.4 p150]

疼 téng - [3.4 p219]

提 tí - [3.5 p229]

30.0

题 tí - [2.3 p140]

体 tǐ - [3.2 p197]

天 tiān - [1.6 p106 ]

田 tián - [0,5 p.32]

听 tīng - [TI1/2.2]

同 tóng - [2.2 p131]

头 tóu - [3.4 p219]

图 tú - [1.3 p76]

外 wài - [1.2,5]

完 wán - [2.1 p118 ]

31.0

晚 wǎn - [3.1 p186]

万 wàn - [2.1 p118]

王 wáng - [0 p24]

往 wǎng, wǎn - [2.6 p170]

忘 wàng - [3.5 p229]

为 wéi, wèi - [3.2 p197]

位 wèi - [2.5 p160]

文 wén, wěn - [1.1 p48]

问 wèn, wén - [2.3 p140]

我 wǒ - [0,5 p32]

32.0

无 wú - [TI1]

五 wǔ, wú - [chiffre p40]

午 wǔ - [3.2 p197]

物 wù - [3.1 p186]

西 xī, xīn - [1.3 p76]

息 xī - [2.4 p150]

喜 xǐ - [1.5 p96]

下  xià - [2.2 p131]

先 xiān - [2.5 p160]

现 xiàn - [2.2 p131]

33.0

香 xiāng - [chanson ]

想 xiǎng - [1.3 p76]

象 xiàng - [3.1 p186]

小 xiǎo - [0 p24]

校 jiào - [3.6 p239]

些 xiē - [3.2 p197]

鞋 xié - [TI1]

写 xié - [1.2,5]

谢 xiè - [2.5 p160]

新 xīn - [3.4 p219]

34.0

心 xīn - [3.3 p207]

信 xìn - [3.6 p239]

星 xīng - [date p40]

行 háng, xíng - [2.3 p140]

醒 xǐng - [TI2]

姓 xìng - [1.1 p48]

兴 xīng, xìng - [3.1 p186]

休 xiū - [2.4 p150]

学 xué - [1.2 p56 ]

呀 yā - [chanson]

35.0

言 yán - [3.3 p207]

阳 yáng - [1.1 p48]

羊 yáng - [2.5 p160]

样 yàng - [1.2,5]

要 yāo - [1.5 p96]

药 yào - [3.4 p219]

也 yě - [0,5 p32]

夜 yè - [3.5 p229]

一 yī, yì, yí - [chiffre p40]

医 yī - [2.6 p170]

36.0

衣 yī - [3.5 p229]

以 yǐ - [2.1 p118]

意 yì - [3.2 p197]

因 yīn - [3.5 p229]

音 yīn - [3.2 p197]

影 yǐng - [3.4 p219]

硬 yìng - [TI3]

用 yòng, yōng - [2.3 p140]

有 yǒu - [1.4 p86]

友 yǒu - [2.1 p118]

37.0

又 yòu - [3.2 p197]

鱼 yú - [2.5 p160]

语 yǔ, yú - [1.2,5]

雨 yǔ - [3.3 p207]

元 yuán, yuǎn - [2.1 p118 ]

园 yuán - [3.3 p207]

远 yuǎn - [2.4 p150]

院 yuàn - [2.6 p170]

月 yuè - [1.1 p48]

在 zài - [1.3 p76]

38.0

再 zài - [2.1 p118/2.3]

早 zǎo - [3.1 p186]

怎 zěn - [1.2,5]

站 zhàn - [2.6 p170]

张 zhāng, Zhāng - [2.1 p118 ]

找 zhǎo - [3.4 p219]

这 zhè - [1.2 p56]

着 zháo, zhe, zhuó, zhé - [3.5 p229]

真 zhēn - [3.6 p239]

正 zhēng, zhèng - [2.2 p131]

39.0

知 zhī - [2.3 p140]

只 zhī, zhǐ - [TI2]

中 zhōng, zhòng, - [0 p24]

钟 zhōng - [3.4 p219]

种 zhǒng, zhòng - [3.4 p219]

重 chóng, zhòng - [2.1 p118]

主 zhǔ - [3.1 p186]

住 zhù - [2.4 p150]

祝 zhù - [3.6 p239]

庄 zhuāng - [TI2]

40.0

子 zǐ - [1.4 p86]

字 zì - [1.1 p48]

自 zì, zǐ - [2.3 p140]

走 zǒu - [2.1 p118 ]

租 zū - [3.6 p239]

最 zuì - [2.1 p118]

昨 zuó - [2.2 p131]

作 zuō, zuò, zò - [1.4 p86]

做 zuò - [2.5 p160]

坐 zuò - [1.6 p106]

title: Mandarin/The 400 characters


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User:SBJ/Bloom clock delayed logging

In many cases, you may want to log blooms you saw more than a few days ago, or perhaps log from your archived photographs well after the fact. The easiest way to do this is to simple alter your signature by going to Special:Preferences and altering your signature as follows:
 * 1) make a signature using today's date and save (or just take an old signature from your talk page), hit edit to get the raw text. and then copy-and paste this (including the date) into the "Nickname" field of the main preferences page.
 * 2) Alter the date to reflect the day you want to log from.
 * 3) Make sure to select the "use raw signatures" option
 * 4) Go ahead and start signing logs, but using three tildes ( * ) instead of four (this adds everything in the "nickname" field without adding a date)
 * 5) Make sure to set your signature back to the way it was before editing other pages, since otherwise 2 dates will appear when using four tildes!

title: User:SBJ/Bloom clock delayed logging


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Talk:Participants of the composing free and open online educational resources course/activity level

Good model
I think that: -- Jtneill - Talk 10:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * this page provides a good model for one way of managing a participant list for a course
 * it should be moved to the course pages
 * a template could be made for future use
 * Hello James, feel free to move it, it is property of all now.
 * Could someone also include the activity level on LeMill ?
 * Template: good idea - who knows someone could even write some code to do this automatically in the future, could be added to Technical needs
 * I think the list is up to date, but better have to check again, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat  10:30, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Added as feature in Wikiversity:Technical needs, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat  10:36, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


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Wikiversity:Candidates for Custodianship/Terra (full custodian)

Original nomination and early discussion
User:Imperial I've been contacted here on my Wikipedia talkpage, about possible mentorship for being a custodian, I have been involved in helping out with maintenance work on wikiversity, however though I'm starting to become active on wikiversity, I'll help out with maintenance work and Custodian work as well if possible, I have however placed a request for my Imperial name to be changed to Terra on Changing Username page, so that users on Wikipedia will find it easy to contact me and know that I have a user here. Terra What do you want? 19:08, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I would be honored to mentor Terra. Bureaucrats: please change the name first (Imperial --> Terra). Terra has an excellent record of service both here and on Wikipedia, and we will certainly benefit from having him/her as a custodian. --SB_Johnny | talk 20:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks, oh and by the way I'm Male just so that you know. Terra What do you want? 20:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * My username has been officially changed, I accept the mentorship for custodianship, just so that you know I'm occasionally semi-active on most wiki-sites. Terra What do you want? 21:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * No problem. I'll be away from the keyboard until tomorrow, but if you want to "get to work" and have questions, there's plenty of help to be found on #wikiversity-en, our IRC channel :). --SB_Johnny | talk 23:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Hi Terra. I like people who work hard on maintenance and vandal-fighting, and I see a lot of skilled and hard-working edits at WP in your name. However I also see you've only been using the name Terra since January of this year (am I correct) and you don't seem to have admin status on WP (I was surprised). I assume you have a number of accounts for your editing, as you look like a seasoned editor. It would be good if you could use your request for custodianship to introduce yourself more thoroughly to us, as many of us don't know you yet. Thank you! --McCormack 05:45, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * On WP, I originally began editing via my alternate user Yun-Yuuzhan. However though for some reason I couldn't log onto the username or hadn't specified an e-mail address which I've thought I had done, and had to request to be merged with the username which became known as Yun-Yuuzhan (lost password) ever since then I decided to be renamed to Terra, at first I become good with maintenance work on WP by fixing minor error's just so I know what to do with the site, then after that I became involved with Vandal Fighting and removed vandalism and warning the user not to do it again, with me being a Vandal Fighter it became my area of expertise. Up until recently I've begun exploring other things on WP, and have begun adding missing information on articles like infoboxes and adding certain information which was mentioned in the article, also I've been exploring new pages being uploaded and marking them as being patrolled or placing the deletion tag if it doesn't meet the criteria, however though if the page itself had writing on which sounds like it meets the criteria I would leave the article alone, if allowed I'll accept the mentorship and hope I can help out here a lot, as I helped on WP. Terra What do you want? 08:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

 * As of this time I do not support Terra as a custodian. Mostly because I think section 56 can be accomplished other ways and "what do you want". --Remi 19:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

 * If that's troubling you then I'll change the signature, and have Section 56 erased if that's what you want me to do or you can freely change that subpage I won't mind any changes you make on section 56 any changes are welcome. Terra talk page 19:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Terra, I have added some comments on Section 56's talk page. Perhaps you could have a look ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 11:50, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm also having a bit of a hard time fully supporting this candidacy at this particular point in the users history on Wikiversity. I've always thought that continual emphasis on fighting vandalism is the wrong approach to take and that candidacy needs be about more than just this. In my brief time as a Custodian i've seen very little vandalism round here and have in fact myself reverted very little and blocked nobody. Custodianship, from my perspective, has been much more about being dedicated to familiarizing and reflecting on what Wikiversity is and might be about so that new users can be welcomed and guided in the right directions, projects can be slotted/renamed into more appropriate categories/sections and that people might approach custodians if they need advice or to ask specific questions about policy or direction. So from my perspective custodianship is not just about the tools at all and i think I argued this as much on my own candidacy. At this point I'm not sure that Terra has enough experience around here to participate fully in the kind of discussions that custodians need to wade into but he should keep at it and enter into the community a bit more before making the request. Countrymike 22:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

 * To be honest part of me doesn't want to be an Admin yet, mainly because I'm still new to this site, however though I'll leave the custodianship request for now until I know more about this site, as with vandalism before I logged on to write this. A comment was made via here which was vandalism, and also I don't want any problems with user's so I'll wait until I gain more experience and hope I'll gain the editor's trust on this site. Terra Welcome to my talkpage 07:49, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm beginning to really strongly support this candidacy, because one of the good things about a candidate custodian is that they shouldn't want the status too badly and should be show signs of willingness to step down if criticised. Anyway, at the current point of time I believe the mentorship thing has already been decided and is going ahead just as fast as Terra's group status can be modified. Terra: please feel warmly encouraged. --McCormack 09:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Reminder and reality check
One of the main reasons we use mentorship rather than elections here is to shelter applicants from the biting and unneccessary confrontations of the sort seen above. He has accepted me as a mentor, and I have accepted him as a "mentee" (if that's a word). Unless someone sees any evidence that I may have missed indicating that this user would do harm to the project with the sysop tools, it's really no-one's business at this point except his, mine, and anyone else who wants to co-mentor and help me show him the ropes. There will be ample opportunity a month from now to discuss his candidacy for "full custodianship" after the probationary period comes to an end (and assuming I recommend him for this at the end of that period). I have requested that his usergroup be changed: please just let the mentorship process proceed as it should, and hold your critiques for later (when we have a record to critique). --SB_Johnny | talk 10:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ✅ sebmol ? 10:45, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

 * SB: I withdraw what looked like a vote on whether this candidate is worthy or not at this point; people deserve the full mentorship experience before questions should begin. This is part of the process that we seem to have forgotten lately. So Terra please continue your mentorship and I hope to see you around; don't forget us on IRC (#wikiversity-en) as well - its a good place to talk things over. Countrymike 20:24, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not mean to betray the spirit of the custodianship process. Hopefully, this will not discourage boldness. --Remi 06:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Winding up probationary custodianship
 Background: User:Terra was nominated for probationary custodianship somewhat hurriedly (although he nominated himself, this was in response to prompting by his mentor, if I am correct); he was still new to Wikimedia projects and was very little known, which created some consternation among older WV participants. During the first 30 days his inexperience showed; his probationary period was extended by 2 months to give him more time to find his feet; it is generally felt (including by Terra himself) that this has given him adequate time to allow a judgement to be made. Mentorship: his mentor was User:SB_Johnny, who does not wish to nominate him for full custodianship and who opposes his custodianship. I have talked to SBJ a lot on IRC, and we agreed that I would write up a report about Terra for him. Editing record: the Wikipedia record is included below the Wikiversity one, as it shows additional skills relevant to custodianship.
 * Wikiversity: 2486 edits; reg. since 21st Feb 2008
 * Transwikied IB History Review Guide from Wikibooks (a 13-page study guide with about 300 revisions); tidied it up a little; also a couple of other minor transwikis.
 * Has moved pages to correct casing issues (less than 50)
 * About 1530 edits are in the Category namespace; mostly created categories by going through Special:WantedCategories, but also a lot of inserting/adding categories to other categories.
 * Main contributor to the new Help:Contents page.
 * Has about 100 template edits; mostly nothing exciting, but knows how to use templates.
 * Has practiced with monobooks.js and archiving.
 * Deleted user contributions shows a lot of deleted categories which were recreated again later; all in the Bloom Clock Project. So far as I know, all of these were categories which he created and then deleted himself.
 * Has practiced blocking himself.
 * Has used the delete tool about 250-300 times, mostly for clearing up Bloom Clock categories; also for deleting image copyright violations (frequently) and responding to author deletion requests (frequently).
 * There are several hundred edits marking pages as patrolled (is this useful?)
 * Page protection: about 15 protection and 5 unprotection actions, about half of which were in his own userspace; he knows how to use this tool.
 * Anti-vandalism: I did not find any AV actions, but in the last few months, vandal activity has been low and vandals have normally been zapped fast by experienced custodians. NB: he has done a lot of AV work on Wikipedia - see below.
 * Communication and interaction
 * A fair number of edits on the Colloquium; uses Talk pages a little but not much - mainly a doer rather than a talker.
 * In the conflict with his mentor, I examined all published edits I could find, and found that Terra had always replied civilly and cooperatively.
 * Response to user requests: he has used both the delete and protection tools to respond to user requests and appears to have properly followed policy.
 * Misbehaviour: I was unable to find any evidence of misbehaviour. There was evidence of making mistakes with category creation; the deletion log suggests he attempted to clean up any mess he made and made a considerable effort in this respect.
 * Content contributions: negligible.
 * Wikipedia: 3918 edits; reg. since 18th Jan 2008
 * Has marked about 900 edits as patrolled.
 * About 1400 mainspace edits
 * Mostly anti-vandalism work against anonymous IP users
 * A very large number of spelling corrections.
 * Some categorisation and stub creation work.
 * Talk pages: has used these a lot more on Wikipedia, mainly for anti-vandalism work (e.g. warnings to anonymous vandals)
 * Had a brief stint on Special:WantedCategories in May (300 or so edits); seems to have made some mistakes which ended up with the exchanges listed at ; it seems the admins regarded him as helpful, but he had some learning to do.
 * Content contributions: negligible.
 * Some accounts on other projects; not a lot of activity.

Comments and questions for the candidate
Please note: voting is in the section beneath.

Why did you leave Wikipedia?

 * This question would also interest me. Seems you are going away from Wikipedia (temporarily) ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 08:51, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I think this is a relevant question in part because the seems to include that Terra was keen to work across both Wikipedia and Wikiversity. What has happened, Terra? -- Jtneill - Talk 12:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I noted this anomaly, which perhaps Terra might explain: On 15 March 2008 Terra wrote that "I've been registered on WP since late last year from Yun-Yuuzhan (lost password)" (and seemed to imply this was the reason for changing to w:User:Terra?; (talk archive)) but Yun-Yuuzhan Wikipedia contributions were made until 19 March, 2008, including editing of the w:User:Terra page. There was also w:User:Dust Rider although the account is basically unused, and here there was the unused User:Imperial account. I'm trying to understand this trail of accounts? -- Jtneill - Talk 14:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It seems there was also w:User:Yun-Harla, according to [] (22 January 2008). This is also the day of Terra's first contributions to Wikiversity. Maybe none of this matters here, but I'm mentioning because we're trying to get a clear picture of Terra's activity. -- Jtneill - Talk 14:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Dust Rider was an alternate user which I used to use as a secondary account - which I had changed to Terra, I no-longer use that account, but however though I've had, had problems with the Yun-Yuuzhan (lost password) account which I had to re-format my hard-drive but lost the password along with it, in order for me to regain my old account I needed to create a new one and request for permission to use that account which I had lost, I'm sorry for causing problems on this site - but as with the rest of the comments which you've mentioned I was very busy in real life at that time and am busy at this time of year - so I might have wrote a comment down fast and had to log-out without re--reading the comment - and also I wasn't thinking strait back then since I was concerned about my real-life activity due to me being busy. Terra  14:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Good/Harm

 * to all: I wonder that another user who proposes the closure of beta Wikiversity can be custodian (1). I didn't see Terra do something that hurt the project deeply. What do you think ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 09:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks especially to McCormack's report, I get the impression of many good, helpful acts. I personally perhaps most appreciate Terra's work on the new Help:Contents page. IMHO, that was a notable, practical, valuable contribution. I also get the impression (especially thanks to SB_Johnny's comments) that Terra created some several issues in the use and creation of category pages here and on Wikipedia (|example). There is no evidence of malintent, but there is a pattern of editing behaviour that leads to some preventable conflicts and problems. -- Jtneill - Talk 13:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Openness of history
Terra, I would like to understand more about how you "operate" with respect to openness and accessibility of editing history / records. For example, on this page there are some red/broken links. Why do you think this is - and do you think this is a good wiki way? Perhaps more importantly, I am finding it harder than normal to review your edit history and talk page histories here (partly because of the very fast auto-archiving and the protection/semi-protection desire) and on Wikipedia (mainly because of the blanking and request for deletion). Could you help me to understand why you operate this way? -- Jtneill - Talk 12:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Your future on WV
I am neutral in your case so far, so I have few questions that can convince me to give you positive vote. --Gbaor 11:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What is your future plans on WV?
 * How long will you be here with us?
 * What will you do in case your candidacy is rejected?

Why do you want to be a custodian here?
Thats my question to you.--Juan 16:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

 * About transwiki: Since it was Terra's first import, there were - of course - problems (see here, 1 (it cost me quite some time to finalize the imports, but hey, I asked for the probationary custodians to use this as learning experience)). But it all helped that we created more info here: Import. Using this future custodians can import better surely. Thx for your help again Terra. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 08:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am wondering what would have happened if Terra would have used more the offered chat ? We can not force someone to use chat of course but right at begin some of the problems which appeared could have easily be avoided. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 08:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * About "About 1530 edits are in the Category namespace; mostly created categories by going through Special:WantedCategories": I think 2 or 3 times I really had the urge to write a comment on Terra's talk page about that :-) I personally would have seen it more useful when Terra would have spend the time for other activities. These can be done anytime (with a bot), but e.g. taking care of newcomers or investing time to review/create learning resources might be more useful. Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 09:01, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Voting
''This section is for voting on whether or not User:Terra should become a full custodian at Wikiversity. The period will be at least 5 days, with perhaps up to 10 days if more time is needed for a clear consensus to emerge.''

 * . I'm kicking off the voting with a provisional neutral vote to emphasize that this is a genuinely open vote where anyone can vote whichever way they wish. I'll probably change my vote later after looking at additional user comment about Terra. My lengthy report above shouldn't be taken to indicate support - I just want to see fair and open treatment. --McCormack 07:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * , strongly. Terra is a well-meaning guy, and likes to do a lot of work, but he doesn't communicate before acting. As mentioned above, most of his edits are in the category namespace, but at least a good percentage of these are just "checklist creations" running off of Special:WantedCategories, but the categories he creates are often themselves put into improper categories (see, e.g., Category:WMGDS/Sexual preference is not genetic, which he put into Category:Wikiversity, meaning that someone who really wanted to use Special:WantedCategories to effectively organize pages no longer has that list to work from, and it's left to someone just happening to notice an improper tree configuration later to figure this out. I tried to talk to him about how to find the proper categories (i.e., either by using Special:PrefixIndex or just asking someone who would know what the categories are for), but by the time I could get back to him, the conversation had been archived somewhere or another, and someone else seemed to be discussing categories with him. He apparently got into similar difficulties on Wikipedia, and ended up apparently leaving the project rather than trying to discuss it and learn how to do better. In general, a reluctance to communicate is a major issue for Terra, in that he has not made much effort at understanding the project. This to me is a major no-no for a permanent custodian. How will he know what is and is not appropriate content? If a new user wants to know how a resource should be linked in, categorized, and developed, will he be able to provide assistance? He says he wants to use the import tool, but will he know what's really worth importing? And will he know what to do with imported materials once it's here? Can he really judge the difference between a silly vandal and a vandal really intending to do harm? Will he take the time to ask for advice about these things before just wading in? I'm afraid I would answer all of these questions with "no". Our mentorship system is, IMO, far better than the RFA system (though it still needs to be ironed out a bit... Terra is in a strange bind between myself and McCormack right now, which should probably be avoided in the future so that any "dressing down" (such as this very posting) can be one privately and quietly in a discussion between the mentor and the mentored). However, we shouldn't be afraid to admit that probationary candidates may, on occaision, fail to make the cut. I'm still happy to have given him the chance, and I'm happy that he's learned how the tools work. I just don't think he's ready at this point to know when to use the tools, and that rules him out for me. I don't see any reason why he can't have another chance if he finds another mentor, but he's not at all ready to be mentorless as a custodian. --SB_Johnny | talk 11:39, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * . I am pretty new at this myself, so would encourage whoever collates views and makes a decision to weigh more experienced custodians' votes more highly. Also, my view is not a strong one - I voted in my mind for a long time until now for "neutral". On one hand, Terra has been diligent, courteous, has successfully used custodian tools (i.e., done good, not harm), made valuable custodial-type edits e.g., with recent anti-vandalism, and also custodianship should be "no big deal". On the other hand, I am concerned that Terra seems to only have a short and somewhat "limited" (in terms of scope) editing career here and at wikiversity (starting ~Jan 2008 from what I can tell), is self-seeking nomination (nothing wrong with that, but by his own admission Terra doesn't like to talk much so its harder to work out what the motivations are - e.g., if Terra wants to fight vandalism, why not do it on Wikipedia where there's far more work to be done?). I am also concerned about the seemingly continual shifting use of usernames especially on WP without clear explanation, and particularly with the habits of blanking of his talk pages for unused accounts, not providing links between talk pages of histories of the talk on the different accounts, fast auto-archiving of talk pages, and desire towards protecting editing of his past talk archives. IMHO, greater transparency/usability of access to a person's editing history and archives would be preferable, particularly during a training/evaluation period. Terra's mentor cites communication as a problem, and I think this also needs to be taken into account. My preference I think would be to support Terra to become a stronger editor first (e.g, with categories there is much good work needed) and then consider re-applying. -- Jtneill - Talk 05:03, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
 * (with a strong encouragement to learn). My first experience with Terra's custodian inexperience was when he deleted a page without checking that a) it had a talk page, and b) several pages linked to it. He did, however, indicate a willingness to learn - and I don't think he's done the same thing again. It's very clear that Terra wants to do good work (and has already done so), but I think he should be more prepared to observe how other people work, to double check his own work, and to ask questions when unsure. I'd be happy to recommend a further period of mentorship, if Terra would like, but I'm not fully confident of full custodianship at this stage. Cormaggio talk 10:13, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am fairly neutral on the matter, and if anything, leaning towards support. I would like to voice a great deal of appreciation towards Terra and the work that he has done, and I certainly think an extension would not hurt as long as he is OK with it. --Emesee 23:27, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
 * i'm afraid that I don't know a lot about the candidate or his edit history (have been quite busy lately with new baby girl) so going by the above comments I'll stay neutral on this one although originally I was leaning towards opposing based on lack of experience or supposed commitment to WV I no longer feel as if I have enough info (or time now) to vote fairly. Countrymike 01:44, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

The period for voting and commenting has finished with following results: 3 oppose + 3 neutral votes. Custodian flag was removed with request at meta. Terra: if you'd like to reapply for custodianship please do so (also as you proposed under a new WV user name) and try to find a mentor please. It would be a waste to lose you(r experience so far) since you have gained knowledge about WV and its many facettes. I'd be willing to mentor you when you would be using chat. What do you say ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 16:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


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