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Wikiversity talk:History of Wikiversity/Custodianship

IRC chat
This page has some old logs from the Freenode IRC #wikiversity-en chat channel that include discussion of the origins of the custodian mentoring system. --JWSchmidt 17:49, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

August 18, 2006
This IRC discussion (see below) was the origin of the Wikiversity system for probationary custodianship. The basic idea was to avoid "evil voting" by having an existing Custodian act as a mentor for each probationary custodian. Note: "RfA" means "requests for adminship" in the jargon of Wikipedia, the process by which new sysops are selected. --JWSchmidt 14:58, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

The following is more of the IRC chat session that is shown at: Wikiversity talk:Custodianship

cormaggio has joined channel #wikiversity-en sebmol: hi cormaggio cormaggio: what's up? sebmol: RfA cormaggio: hmmm.. sebmol: we've been talking about some of that here cormaggio: right sebmol: basically the question that comes is how RfAs will be handled, and how to demote cormaggio: how to demote? well, thats a bureaucrat action or to be taken up with a meta steward sebmol: actually, bureaucrats can't demote cormaggio: how to promote seems a n equally tricky situation cormaggio: ah, can't they? sebmol: no cormaggio: i thought they could - ok sebmol: there's an imbalance there cormaggio: on promotion - i take your point about votes being evil - i agree they often end in acrimony cormaggio: where's the imbalance?
JWSchmidt: stewards will act in an emergency to remove admin status, but they normally listen to community consensus
cormaggio: yes, that's true john (hi)
JWSchmidt: hi
sebmol: imbalance that you can promote, but can't demote
cormaggio: well, i've personally no fundamental problem with that
cormaggio: the most important thing is we choose our admins wisely
sebmol: it's not. i'm just saying, it does make a difference
sebmol: i agree
JWSchmidt: admins are "trusted members of the community"
guillom: i'm back
guillom: hi cormaggio
sebmol: re guillom
cormaggio: i was wondering if we should have some sort of nomination system and not voting system for choosing admins?
cormaggio: hi guillom
guillom: voting is evil
cormaggio: what i mean is: have peopel say who they *do8 trust, and not don't (?)
cormaggio: would somethign like that work?
JWSchmidt: the community should discuss admin candidates...votes might not be wise
cormaggio: essentially people must trust their admins..
sebmol: i think they should self nominate, support would be good. at the same time, the committee that set it all up must have the ability to block candidates they don't feel
sebmol: are committee to the goal of the project
sebmol: *committed
JWSchmidt: after community discussion, a bureaucrat has to decide to make the candidate an admin
cormaggio: John - i suppose that's a potential buffer zone - but i don't want to necessarily personally stop someone from being an admin if they are trusted by others
JWSchmidt: this is why bureaucrats get the big $$$$
JWSchmidt: adminship should be "no big deal"
cormaggio: that's true john
sebmol: it's a difference between what things should be and how they are perceived
cormaggio: oh yeah - i had that page open - i just didn't see it
sebmol: many people perceive adminship as a big deal, as a confirmation of their work, as a means to climb the ladder, as a special badge, etc.
sebmol: that's why we talked about a different term earlier
cormaggio: what did you come up with?

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JWSchmidt: "policy facilitator"
sebmol: how does one facilitate a policy I would ask immediately. i thought facilitating is something you do with people
cormaggio: i've no problem with the term admin, or whether people see it as a big deal or a way to climb a social ladder
JWSchmidt: you seek community input then you act on policy
cormaggio: what worries me is how someone might use their tools
cormaggio: but on this: how could someone abuse admin tools anyway, John?
sebmol: cormaggio: you don't think that many of the RfA's we have right now would disappear if "admin" wouldn't sound so privileged?
cormaggio: dunno..
           guillom thinks back to housekeeper
JWSchmidt: cormaggio: "how could someone abuse admin tools" about a dozen admins have been removed from en Wikipedia
guillom: i'm sure few people would like to become housekeepers
cormaggio: well, any of these other terms can be used on a page to explain what an admin is, what's expected of them etc..
sebmol: wheel wars with othre admins comes to mind, or protecting pages for disputes oneself is involved in
cormaggio: i know that John - but what damage specifically could be done in a wikiversity context (excepting obvious asshole behaviour)?
JWSchmidt: admins can intimidate (bully) wiki participants by abusing their powers
JWSchmidt: sometimes it is subtle
cormaggio: ok, scratch that question i suppose - i'm just new to the whole game - thanks
JWSchmidt: sometimes admins do not know or follow policy nor seek consensus of the community before acting
sebmol: indeed
guillom: indeed
JWSchmidt: that is abuse, unless the admin was dealing with an emergency
sebmol: most often they don't even ask anyone else of their opinion. it might not always be possible to seek consensus on something but asking other users about what one intends
sebmol: would go a long way
JWSchmidt: talk first, then act
cormaggio: absolutely
sebmol: ideally, but we're talking about abuse so that doesn't happen
sebmol: if sysop status is no big deal, if it's really just a few more buttons that help maintain the project, then the title should reflect that role
JWSchmidt: some admins do not know how to discuss
JWSchmidt: I would like to see a new name

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JWSchmidt: we are acting with honest good intentions
sebmol: <mother goose mode (please bear with me)>
sebmol: de-WP doesn't have an arbcom. to decide whether users (not vandals) should be banned or not, we hold a vote
sebmol: that has led to one user having 4 (!) votes to have him banned
JWSchmidt: how mane people vote, usually
sebmol: the talk pages for the last vote is over 400 KB long
sebmol: *page
     Rayc: don't you have a problem with socks and sleeper accounts in the banning process, or do you go by the wikipedia is not a democracy adage?
sebmol: we do have that problem
sebmol: the last vote was 203:87 for permanent ban
sebmol: it requires 2/3
sebmol: it is the most awful institution german WP has, short after deletion review
JWSchmidt: how long do the votes last
sebmol: two weeks
JWSchmidt: yikes
sebmol: well, the last one lasted one week
JWSchmidt: at en-Wikipedia there are several mechanisms for bans...
JWSchmidt: Jimbo can ban...
sebmol: if you don't know how much 400 kb text are, that's 62 printed pages
JWSchmidt: the Arbcom...
sebmol: right
     Rayc: It's better to have admins make the choice, or arbacom, then banned users or rejected banned users will hate those
JWSchmidt: and there is a "community ba"...
sebmol: i'm just bringing this up as a reason why i'm wary of discussion on certain things
JWSchmidt: "community ban"
JWSchmidt: some "community bans" are done in a few hours
sebmol:
sebmol: having a discussion on the term admin is likely to create a lot of heated comments
sebmol: it's just one of those things
     Rayc: 'Nother large import request.
cormaggio: well, there's nothing stopping us setting up an institution like an arbcom (though it's entirely premature yet, surely)
sebmol: Rayc: put it up. i'm about to process the page
     Rayc: Is there away for IRC to be imbedded into a wiki page?
cormaggio: ok
guillom: nice, roadrunner has just written on my userpage...
sebmol: Rayc: no
cormaggio: Rayc - no - you can just save a log
cormaggio: (and uplaod it to the wiki)
JWSchmidt: Rayc: we could make the logs of this channel public
     Rayc: Well, I was just wondering, since no everyone who is going to take a wikiclass is going to have an IRC program, but I think it's Ron Horning said he is going to teach on IRc.
sebmol: not retroactively
sebmol: Rayc: there are web sites where you can log onto IRC for free (that's how I'm here right now)
JWSchmidt: we could act to limit fears of a "cabaL" by making future logs of this channel public
guillom: Rayc, i've sent a mail to the ML about this IRC teaching
cormaggio: Logs of this channel made public - only with consent of the people who come in - i don't see it as a good idea - just take excerpts where appropriate
cormaggio: yes, IRC teaching has its drawbacks
sebmol: JWSchmidt: there's no cabal, says meta ;-)
     Rayc: sembol - Could you add that link to the chat page?  Or is it there already?
cormaggio: i agree with your point guillom - but I'm not going to oppose Robert's teaching methods
JWSchmidt: we are dealing with fears of a cabal
sebmol: you're suggesting we deal with it
cormaggio: John - i'd say all policies etc discussed on this channel must be discussed on wiki or on mailing list
JWSchmidt: okay

Length of probationary custodianship
Thanks for your efforts in gathering this history about custodianship, probationary custodianship and mentorship together, John. I am finding it particularly helpful to see the evolution of the ideas and policy. From what I can see (so far) there was never really any discussion about the length of probationary custodianship - it just became 4 weeks? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 16:03, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
 * See the next page section. I think Sebmol had previously proposed a similar mentoring system on a German wiki project. As shown below, in chat on 18 August 2006, after the chat shown above, Sebmol first said, "adminship is on probation for x weeks" and then there was no further discussion. I believe he just selected the 4 weeks as a reasonable time period and nobody ever objected to that. --JWSchmidt 17:43, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

More chat - length of probation
cormaggio: it's true the admin-makign process ahs been pretty arbitrary so far
 JWSchmidt: we might set up an administrator mentoring system
JWSchmidt: anyone who does not have past admin experience must be mentored
JWSchmidt: training new admns is good for the project
   sebmol: JWSchmidt: i've suggested something like that as an alternative to admin elections on de-WP
 JWSchmidt: I have also suggested it at en-Wikipedia
JWSchmidt: anyhow, the mentoring idea should happen evn if it is not policy
   sebmol: agreed
sebmol: the only opposition I got was that it'd be too much work since we're short admins as it is
 cormaggio: right
 JWSchmidt: yes, I think that is the main objection
sebmol: because you need other admins to monitor the "newbies" which then don't have time for other important things
cormaggio: ok, well, maybe it will work
sebmol: how about this: anybody who requests can become admin provided x months participation on wikimedia projects. adminship is on probation for x weeks through which time the new admin will be mentored by an experienced admin
   sebmol: if there are incidents during said time or objections from the community, a regular concensus vote is held
 JWSchmidt: cool
 cormaggio: are you prepared to mentor *everyone* who applies?
   sebmol: we can limit the number of new admins per timeframe
 JWSchmidt: mentoring means watching and suggesting corrections
Rayc: How about an aprentaship program
sebmol: Rayc: that'd be basically like that. sounds better than probation
 cormaggio: :-)
Rayc: All admins take on an apprentace, and after a certain amount of time the graduate and take on their own apprentaces
   sebmol: temporary adminship
    sebmol: or custodian in training
      Rayc: I'm thinking star wars jedi knights for some reason
sebmol is working on a document for all of this
 cormaggio: great sebmol
sebmol: what's the definition of a major edit?
    sebmol: it's something I've seen on en-WP that doesn't exist on de-WP
 JWSchmidt: back
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 JWSchmidt: definition of a major edit?
 JWSchmidt: good question
    sebmol: JWSchmidt: what's a major edit? is that just whether somebody checks that box before hitting save?
 JWSchmidt: typos
 JWSchmidt: spelling
SB_Johnny|: Hi Rayc!
 JWSchmidt: trivial formatting
SB_Johnny|: Not really here... just logging another channel for a css hack
sebmol: JWSchmidt: i'm writing something right now about the custodian in training thing
 JWSchmidt: good
 JWSchmidt: do you like the term "mentoring"
   sebmol: i do
    sebmol: that's what i'm calling it
    sebmol: actualyl
   sebmol: *actually
 JWSchmidt: okay
JWSchmidt: "trained user" is a bit of a shock
 JWSchmidt: roll over
 JWSchmidt: speak
 JWSchmidt: sit up
   sebmol: lol
   sebmol: you can change it back to trusted
 JWSchmidt: "experienced and trusted"?
   sebmol: sure
 JWSchmidt: what do you think of this:
 JWSchmidt: http://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity%3ARequests_for_Adminship&diff=7688&oldid=7625
   sebmol: we could incorporate that on the page
 JWSchmidt: okay
   sebmol: although i'm not sure i would call custodians leaders
 JWSchmidt: no
 JWSchmidt: you are right
   sebmol: give me a sec
 JWSchmidt: that is the point
 SB_Johnny: do you consider leader and admin to be synonymous?
   sebmol: no
 JWSchmidt: no
    sebmol: not at all
 JWSchmidt: I changed it
   sebmol: there are plenty of leaders on wikis that aren't admins
 SB_Johnny: and probably admins who aren't leaders...
   sebmol: indeed
JWSchmidt: "You must request"..... or can others nominate you?
 JWSchmidt: at en-Wikipedia many people are nominated
   sebmol: yeah
   sebmol: just added that
   sebmol: check now
 SB_Johnny: I know... was reading the RFA page. going there now
 JWSchmidt: got it
JWSchmidt: "If a mentor you accept is available" <-- do we need a list of available mentors
   sebmol: yeah
   sebmol: we probably would
sebmol: maybe as part of the Candidates for Custodianship page
 SB_Johnny: nice... and now that I see it on the page, custodian does seem nice
   sebmol: :)
 JWSchmidt: "permanent custodian" sounds too...permanent
    sebmol: i put a disclaimer about it at the bottom
    sebmol: it's mostly to distinguish from temporary
 JWSchmidt: i c
    sebmol: any more things we want to do to the custodian page before listing it on policies?
 JWSchmidt: I'm almost through reading/changing
 JWSchmidt: spelling: Custodians can blocks users
 JWSchmidt: okay, I'm done with the custodian page


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Church of Scientology NOT DELETED
No Consensus. --Abd 14:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Moved to Colloquium. Ottava Rima (talk) 02:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion was moved to archive from inactivity, see Colloquium/archives/April_2010. The general sense appeared to be that the page should be edited or the information restructured, which is an ordinary user process. I'm closing this as resolved, no consensus to delete, no prejudice against future filing after opportunity to fix the resource(s). --Abd 14:12, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Mushroom Digital - DELETED
This seems like an advertisement to me. Very little content on the page, prominent name-dropping, and the misspelling don't seem to add up to anything educational. --Trinity507 21:04, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, my impression is the same. I think Wikiversity is better of without it; we can't be a free advertising space... Can we? Ever wonder 21:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Delete sole contribution of user, no connection with a learning resource, nothing significant lost by deletion. If they want to create a course on Web Design or like that, fine, and they could mention themselves, presumably, but this isn't anything like that, it's just an ad. Actually, they'll be better off without this embarrassing piece, their spelling definitely isn't "impeckable," nor are their grammar. Do them a favor and delete it. --Abd 02:17, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Deleted as obviously promotional content. Stuff like this can be speedily deleted. Adambro 09:04, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

The invisible DNA - NOT UNDELETED
Not undeleted.. There was no support for undeletion. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

must be restored why the invisible DNA figures on the cover picture of Watson's book: ADN le secret de la vie. Stéphane Andre Schmutz

 * Many problems. First, it has been deleted in various forms dating back a long time now. It has been recreated on multiple pages with multiple names. It was amazing how many pages I found with the same thing mostly promoting an extremely fringe idea that no one but his own website would promote. The page was spamish and also contained copyvio from his website. If anyone goes to the french wiki, here and elsewhere, you will see many more of the problems that -they- discovered. The IP snuck in all the pages here thinking that since we are not French nor Wikipedia we might not know the complicated history. Simply put, the author of the website is trying to use Wikipedia and Wikiversity to legitimize his claim when, any search for the man, doesn't even show an advanced degree in the subject. Instead, his website is there in hope to sell books that have no real scientific or academic basis, and we shouldn't be helping that. Ottava Rima (talk) 14:07, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

 * It is not impossible that a learning resource here could be created that covers the "fringe theory," or whatever it is. However, the deletedpage isn't it, it is nearly incomprehensible. If the author of this page wants to see something here, I suggest the following: first, register an account and use only that account, do not create marginal stuff as an IP editor, it is highly likely to disappear. Second, ask for help from someone with experience. I'm actually new here, and an administrator on probation, but I'd be willing to help. Start with a proposed resource in your (registered) user space. Keep it simple, explain what "Invisble DNA" means, so that anyone can understand, or at least anyone with some background in science. If you are involved with the theory, and not merely someone interested in it, disclose that, openly. We can work with it, and our rules are different from Wikipedia. For now, I'd say, this page remains deleted. If you need a copy of it, ask me on my Talk page, I can provide it to you if you are a registered editor. If something usable is developed in your user space, it can then be moved into mainspace, and, if you have had help and cooperated, it will last. Even if it mentions the book. The disruption of multiple creations must stop. Okay? --Abd 14:59, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As a note - the repeated copyvio, produced in over a dozen articles, consistently recreated, and put on multiple wikis was the main reason why this was completely wiped and pages protected. The actual merits of the "science", be it fringe or not, were not considered. The matter dates back a few months, but there have been so many different pages that I do not remember which was the original or what the original IP was. The user relied on multiple IPs on different networks, but all seemed to be saying the same thing (as if they were the same person). Ottava Rima (talk) 17:08, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No need to explain that, actually, it was assumed by me. --Abd 23:44, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Music and learning [USERFIED]
I request undeletion of Music and learning. This learning resources was deleted as "Beyond scope", but the Music and learning learning project was a valid Wikiversity learning resource. The out-of-process deletion of this developing Wikiversity learning resource was a disruption of both the Wikiversity Mission and the Mission of the Wikimedia Foundation and is now the subject of community review. --JWSchmidt 22:37, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

 * It was misnamed to say the least. Ottava Rima (talk) 23:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
 * heh.... so rename and undelete - it seems very silly to me to be deleting things in this manner, rather as if some are under the delusion that pressing 'delete' is a viable methodology to decrease disruption, and build a harmonious community. I think it's not a very good idea, so yeah, 'undelete' please :-) Privatemusings 00:10, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Suggest undelete and move to user sub-page. Deletion for such a page should be on the basis of documented discussion and consensus. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 15:08, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

✅ Per the comments above, I have restored the page and moved it to User:JWSchmidt/Music and learning. Diego Grez 00:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

School of Mathematics - NOT DELETED
I rolled up my sleeves and got ready to merge and found there was not much to be merged. Judging from the talk page of this resource it was created in error and the original author felt it should be deleted. The page harms the project by causing people like myself to get lost have have no good idea where to get started contributing. Even worse is that the community cannot offer any advice on the matter has evidenced by a lack of replies to this post and This conversation. (I don't mean to single out Adambro, he has been very helpful to me here so far). This sort of confusion has kept me from contributing more seriously, and who knows, possibly others as well. Thenub314 10:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that School of Mathematics and School:Mathematics have different, useful content and that the page in question could be moved to something like Learning mathematics as suggested here and that School of Mathematics could then be redirected to School:Mathematics. None of this would require deleting or custodial tools and could be done by any editor. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:22, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I did notice this suggestion to turn this into a resource on learning mathematics. Now I grant that it may represent a particular point of view on how to learn mathematics but whose point of view?  The significant contributor is one of the people to suggest this page be deleted as a mistake.  I also find it notable that another editor noticed this suggestion and also still suggested it be deleted.  Now I am new here, so this conversation is a bit of an educational experience for me.   But do we really keep a POV resource when the only person to suggest or agree with this POV later decides it should be taken down? Thenub314 09:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I think that's an open question. Content contributed is no longer owned by the original creator. The page has since been (a little) modified and could continue to be so. In general, I would prefer to see potentially useful content adapted/improved (which I think is quite possible in this case) than outright deleted. The original author's comment on the talk page was "I wrote this page quickly one night, when I was astonished by the apparent fact that the Wikiversity "school of mathematics" page did not exist. However, after I wrote it I found this page: [1] . That seems to be the real Wikiversity "school of mathematics" page. Now I think that this page I wrote should probably just be deleted. --Singularitarian 20:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)". So, it isn't a deletion request, but a suggestion. I think the page should be treated on its merits. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 23:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It is my personal opinion is an impediment rather then a resource, but your correct it can be dealt with without administrative tools. So I withdraw my request for deletion. Thenub314 12:54, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Note, the redirect was deleted as being unnecessary. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Closed as kept. Page was renamed to Learning mathematics for use as a resource as suggested. -- dark lama  21:05, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Aaron Wilson (USERFIED)

 * Closed as keep. Userfied to corresponding user name (User:Kempoguy22) Diego Grez 16:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

This seems to have been a user page at some point, but it is unclear for which user as it has been now touched up by a few editors. The long and short of it is, I can't see what this resource is supposed to be about. Thenub314 21:05, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Purpose of the page seems to be established by [ this] followed by [ this]. --Pi zero 15:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Then it seems to me this page can safely be moved into that users space, which I will just go ahead and do. Thenub314 16:20, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Dramaturgy UNDELETED/USERFIED (Music and learning)
I request undeletion of Dramaturgy and Music and learning. The Dramaturgy page is a learn-by-doing project for exploring how to use drama to promote learning. There was a long list of references for reading and discussion. The page was deleted as "Beyond scope", but the topic is clearly within the scope of Wikiversity. The Music and learning page is a learn by doing project where participants explore their musical interests while collaborating to document the ways that music stimulates learning. As part of that project I wrote a song about the Declaration of Independence. That song does not mock anyone. The song is a goofy celebration of liberty that explores my musical interests. The page was deleted as "Beyond scope", but music and learning is clearly within the scope of Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 00:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

 * No. Ottava Rima (talk) 01:02, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry, but regardless of my personal position that's a terrible explanation. Adrignola 01:05, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Support undeletion of both, and request ottava cheer up ;-) Privatemusings 01:07, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Privatemusings, you are such a brat. You know first hand that I was not in a bad mood. :P Ottava Rima (talk) 12:51, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Undelete, promptly. (edit conflict with above) Dramaturgy is a recognized academic subject. If the content of the page is inappropriate, then any inappropriate content could be blanked pending a deletion decision, but the community can then review the pages. Normal policy would require a deletion discussion before deleting something as blatantly possible as an educational resource as this. At the same time, the same custodian blocked Beetlebaum, 10 days after this acknowledged JWS sock -- we may have acknowledged socks or even certain unacknowledged ones -- was last used for editing. I'm forced to see this as harassment of JWS, or at least flagrant disregard for recusal policy and remaining free of the appearance of bias. If Beetlebaum was disruptive, then JWS should be held accountable, and he should not suffer a death of a thousand cuts, as his work is deleted and his "character" sock is blocked without consensus or explanation, and what would be evidence of possible misbehavior is concealed under deletion. I'm also concerned about the regal "No" of Ottava. Policy suggests reasoned arguments for deletion discussion, not "votes," nor, worse, personal custodian denial. Below, we have an open discussion on Moulton's "Didactic Character Subpages." There is no consensus there, there is only Ottava's defense of his redeletion, two users opposing deletion, Adambro asking a question about appropriateness (which couldn't be answered until the content could be read!) and Jtneill asking a question about content. I provided, while I was still a probationary custodian, a way to read the content. I suppose that could be done here, as well, but I can no longer do it. I read that content and it was not sufficiently disruptive to warrant deletion, all legitimate raised objections previously could have been handled with a tag or blanking. Is the same true here? I don't know, but, from the history, I know that these two involved custodians cannot be trusted to make a neutral decision, they are involved, long-term.--Abd 01:21, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Give it a rest Abd. JWSchmidt is struggling to focus his contributions on useful activities, it seems you might also be having the same problem. This page was more useless nonsense like, unfortunately, many of his recent "learning projects". It would be inappropriate to undelete it. Adambro 08:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * you know, I reckon there's a real easy method to avoid this kind of rather silly escalation, if you're minded to, you can even play it as a game (although I can't promise any prizes ;-). It's called 'fact or opinion' - I think the use of things like blocks, deletions, and other special admin powerz should be based on facts - specifically about whether or not folk are breaking policies that can also be empirically examined (so they're 'facts' too in that sense). If, on reflection, you feel that you're taking action based on 'opinion' - or worse, based on an 'opinion' of interpretation doubled up with an 'opinion' of an action, then you're probably barking up the wrong tree. As someone clever said (who? - someone help me out!) - opinions are like arseholes.... everyone's got 'em, but it's best to keep them to yourself ;-) cheers, Privatemusings 09:23, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Undelete - I don't recall a discussion and consensus to delete these pages. I would prefer to see the community deciding what it wants to delete unless it's very obviously inappropriate material. I'm unconvinced that these pages warranted deletion without discussion. -- Jtneill - Talk - c 10:58, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the page on the condition that anyone can move content they find objectionable to the discussion page, and it must not be added back to the content page until there is a clear written consensus on the discussion page in support of restoring content back to the content page. -- dark lama  14:16, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Darklama. Excellent. Note that truly objectionable content may not be appropriate even for the Talk page, but I have not yet reviewed this, and the normal response to such content is to delete it, i.e., blank it. Users can work this out, custodian tools are not needed unless something must be revision deleted, which is rare. --Abd 14:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * What about Music and learning? I would think the same criteria would apply. --Abd 14:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Diego Grez moved it to User:JWSchmidt/Music and learning. I think based on Diego Grez's decision that the work should remain in JWSchmidt's user space. -- dark lama  14:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine, I hadn't seen that because notice here was not provided. Moving is an ordinary editorial action, any of us could do it. I'd suggest that this discussion be closed relatively soon, if no Delete comments show up in short order. --Abd 17:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I dislike that JWS filed this report without letting us know that the page had been userfied almost two weeks earlier. What he might protest, but probably not here, would be the protection of the name in mainspace by Adambro, so that the file cannot be moved back to mainspace without a custodian, which seems overcontrolling. In the mean time, the page can be edited where it is, and a final decision on mainspace location deferred, when feelings have cooled. We do have other issues to address at this time! --Abd 18:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Didactic Character Subpages - NOT UNDELETED
Close with Leave deleted The original filing was on Wikiversity pages. At one point the page names were edited to point to betawikiversity pages, and JWS did not object; I'm taking that as a consent to close this request. Contrary to my view, by the way. --Abd 20:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC) --
 * Montana Mouse
 * Barsoom Tork
 * Gastrin Bombesin
 * Caprice
 * Albatross

I request undeletion of User:Moulton/Montana Mouse, User:Moulton/Barsoom Tork, User:Moulton/Gastrin Bombesin, User:Moulton/Caprice, User:Moulton/Albatross. I want to invite these characters to participate in the music and learning project. In order to explore my musical learning goals I need these characters to participate in a musical performance and I would like to make use of Moulton's expertise 1, 2, 3. --JWSchmidt 12:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
 * What was the content of these pages (I know I can go and look at a custodian, but it could be helpful to have an overview for everyone). Has anyone contacted Sebmol for comment since s/he deleted them? Were there any page-specific discussions before deletion? Were these deleted user pages which were then shifted to sub-pages of User:Moulton? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 11:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The pages were harmless learning tools with biographies of didactic characters. These pages were deleted after both Moulton and I had been subjected to bad blocks and could not freely defend the pages as learning resources. Go to this version of the deletion requests page and you can see the discussion. The first person to comment on the proposed deletion correctly explained why deleting the pages was not sensible. Rather than give a reason for deletion, Sebmol simply pointed to the deletion discussion; there was no valid reason that could be entered into the deletion log. The Wikiversity community was under external threat and there is no reason now to put much stock in old decisions that were being made under conditions of intimidation and fear. Note this part of the discussion:I can quickly and efficiently ban Moulton from this project if it is requested. Salmon of Doubt 18:41, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * "Salmon of Doubt" was the Wikipedian who came to Wikiversity and declared his goal to be getting Moulton banned from Wikiversity. The deletion discussion took place under conditions of threat and harassment imposed by invading Wikipedians. The pages are harmless didactic resources. Please look at the pages and judge them on their own merits. --JWSchmidt 12:39, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * How is Music and learning improved by the use of fictional characters? In what way does any use of fictional characters depend on the existence of these pages? What purpose does User:Beetlebaum serve now? Adambro 12:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * The pages will help me write a song, as I already explained on this page. I want to see the content of those pages so I can write my music. I doubt if I can explain musical inspiration to you and in any case that is not relevant to the undeletion of these harmless pages. User:Beetlebaum puts me in a mood for creating music. --JWSchmidt 13:14, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Undeleted at least temporarily. This discussion may continue until a final decision is made on these pages, but I saw no harm in restoring them to the Moulton user space at least temporarily for JWS or others to review. It is possible that there is some inappropriate material on these pages, but I noticed nothing that stood out. Please notify this discussion of any seriously problematic text in the pages. Adambro, we normally afford users substantial freedom in their user space, such pages need not be "purely educational resources," and serving the reasonable request of a Wikiversity user, assuming good faith, trumps a narrow view on what is a "learning resource," and this isn't in mainspace. However, stories indeed are a part of education, and that is, in fact, one of Moulton's regular themes. He is correct on that. --Abd 03:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Agreed. I redeleted them. They were deleted via process, and were material created that were not within the scope of this community. They were also created by a banned user and used to disrupt while socking. They have no purpose here. Ottava Rima (talk) 15:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh, Ottava, your 'Agreed' above apparently refers to the undeletion denial of Jtneill in the next section for another page. (A section header should be at the very top of a section, otherwise the archive template, and initial comment, gets caught in the previous section edit. I fixed it) There was no consensus here against undeletion. Certainly you can reverse my decision and I can respond to the request in a different way. But I'm urging all of us to stop taking rigid and fixed positions in the Moulton affair and start trying to find ways we can cooperate even where we disagree. I saw no harm in those pages. Just as the contributions of a blocked editor can be removed legitimately without consideration of content (in this case, without determining if the actual content of the pages was "disruptive"), and they can be reverted back by any editor on their own responsibility, JWS was asking for these pages to be restored, and so I temporarily undeleted them pending review of a final deletion decision. Ottava, you did not allow time for that to happen; other editors cannot read those pages now. I urge you to reconsider. Thanks. --Abd 23:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * There was no consensus for undeletion. Your undeletion was inappropriate. Sorry, but you went around process inappropriately. These were pages created by a banned user to harass others. They serve no valid purpose here. Ottava Rima (talk) 03:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

"were material created that were not within the scope of this community." <-- These were harmless character descriptions that I was casting in a music production as part of the Music and learning learning project. I request that a Custodian undelete these learning resources. --JWSchmidt 23:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Overturn deletion.I placed the wikitext for the pages at so that any user can see what was deleted, thus satisfying the basis for JWS's request. Without approving all of the content of these pages (I saw one satirical reference to a controversial former Wikiversity user, though it is mild compared to what we have been seeing routinely), I judge that this content is acceptable in user space, as it was. It is possible, depending on how these pages are used, that some kind of tag should added or even that the pages are blanked, but preventing them from being read, even in history, by deletion, seems overkill and even a bit spiteful to me (that comment is based on some of the original deletion discussion which showed some punitive motive in support for the deletion, which would be technically improper and a sound basis for overturning it, particularly given that the deletion discussion did not clearly show a consensus for deletion.) --Abd 03:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Although it will be more convenient for John if the Didactic Character Subpages reside on the local Wiki, I have now restored them on Beta:Wikiversity. Note that restoring them here will require Adam's fix to the MediaWiki:Titlewhitelist, so that a few broken links can be repaired.  Moulton 02:59, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

In a review of my action regarding these pages at User talk:Abd/Custodian actions, I realized that deletion was definitely not the appropriate action for these files, given the arguments against them in the original deletion discussion cited by JWS, above. At the most, they should have been blanked, with a permanent version then cited so anyone could read the original content if they wished. Suppose these pages had been a section on Moulton talk. Would that section have been revision-deleted? That's the equivalent of deleting a page itself. If anyone wants to point to the content itself, they can point to the permanent version, thus allowing what JWS wants to do. There was disagreement over the allowability of this content on Wikiversity, but in reality, this should not extend, absent good cause, into making the content unavailable to those who wish to see it. We should, in the future, keep blanking or providing a warning notice or the like, as an alternative to deletion. --Abd 15:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


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User talk:Maxwell.duo

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Talk:Ecolig

In my opinion, this may NOT qualify for deletion because it is NOT a copyright violation from http://ewh.ieee.org/soc/e/sac/meem/index.php/meem/article/viewFile/78/70. Those articles are different. Anyway, just to let you know, I am the author of both articles. It is supposed to be a contribution to Wikiversity but if you disagree, please delete everything, I mean all comments and talk page as well, Regards. - User:Paulomiguel 10:08, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * So that you can allow its use in here by sending a permision to info-en at wikimedia.org.--Juan de Vojníkov 10:41, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

 * A copyviolaion is more than copy and paste - if you have the same information as a work and the same structure with a little variation with many of the same words used (but not 100% exact same wording), there is still a copyright problem. It is to protect writers, especially since once it is up on a place like Wikiversity anyone can take it and use it at will without any authorial control. Ottava Rima (talk) 13:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I went through earlier today and did a text comparison to the referenced article. Anything that was a direct copyright violation was summarily removed. I cannot vouch for the remainder of the text, only that it does not match up to the text from the article. Geoff Plourde 21:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Good. Now, you have to remember that not everything is direct copy and paste so if anyone wants to check, look for phrases that may have one or two words that are different but are mostly saying the same. Ottava Rima (talk) 21:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

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Worm farming

Redwiggler1.jpg'') can live for as long as four years.] According to Charles Darwin, worms are one of the most important creatures on earth. Worms are little more than intestines surrounded by muscles. Plant material goes in the mouth waste emerges from the tail. They breathe through their skin.

This page is for those interested in learning about worm farming (vermicomposting). Worm farming involves feeding organic waste to special breeds of worm that thrive in decomposing matter. The worm castings (worm poo) are harvested as a rich garden manure and organic liquid fertiliser (worm tea) can be harvested.

Hobby and commercial worm farm containers can be purchased or worm farms of a great variety of shapes, sizes, designs and materials can be made.
 * 1) Make a worm farm from polystyrene boxes
 * 2) Make a worm farm from a wheelie bin

Composting worms (with nicknames such as "Tigers", "Reds" and "Blues") can be usually be purchased in lots of approx. 1000 from garden centres and/or hardware stores or local worm farms.

A mature composting worm (which can be identified by the ring shaped swelling around their body; baby worms take about three months to mature) can consume up to its own weight each day. For example, if your organic waste averages 500g per day, you will need 500g to 1 kg of worms. There are roughly 1000-2000 worms in one 1kg. If you start with less, don't worry, they multiply quickly (they double in population every 2-3 months (in ideal conditions)).

There's lots of good info about worm farming on the web, e.g.,:
 * 1) Household worm farming guide
 * 2) Fascinating facts about worms (Can O' Worms)
 * 3) Composting with red worms
 * 4) Worm farming (youtube)

Key elements of good worm farming include feeding worms the right kinds of food in the right kinds of quantities and maintaining an appopriate level of moisture and acid/alkaline balance. This is fun to learn through reading guidelines and trial and error. Once you get the conditions right, composting worms thrive and multiply, providing an efficient and fun acceleration of the composting process.

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User:O2ibm

O2ibm Dr Evangelos Damigos welcomes you to O2ibm

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User:Valentinejoesmith

Hi there. I'm also a member at wikipedia and you can find a better summary at []

Valentinejoesmith 13:17, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Mrteacup

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Hi, I have add that page to the category which is important on Wikiversity to sort pages. So I add on the end of the page. Next time try to do it automatically. Thank you and have a good luck with this source creation.--Juan de Vojníkov 06:05, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Numerical Analysis

Moved off main page
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Mjmohio 15:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Curve-fitting
May consider this somewhere ?--Billymac00 (discuss • contribs) 00:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)

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User talk:Dramolg1

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Talk:Wikimania/2010

Archives
I am wondering when they upload videos.--Juan de Vojníkov 16:40, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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User:Egm6321.f10

EGM 6321 Principles of Engineering Analysis 1, Fall 2010 Prof. Loc Vu-Quoc

University of Florida I agree to multi-license all my contributions, including my user pages, as described below (MultiLicenseWithCC-BySA-Any):

Interesting news:

Free digital texts begin to challenge costly college textbooks in California, By Gale Holland, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer August 18, 2008. Would-be reformers are trying to beat the high cost -- and, they say, the dumbing down -- of college materials by writing or promoting open-source, no-cost online texts.

IMPORTANT: The perils of plagiarizing wikipedia; see Falling exam passes blamed on Wikipedia 'littered with inaccuracies', 21 June 2008, by Martyn Mclaughlin, News.Scotsman.com. "WIKIPEDIA and other online research sources were yesterday blamed for Scotland's falling exam pass rates."

MIT's OpenCourseWare course(s): Current version

Lecture plan, including lecture transparencies and references. Fall 2009 version

Report table, Fall 2009 version

Writing tools: Mourning the Death of Handwriting, Op-Art: The Write Stuff
 * Writing tools, pros and cons

 * Almost-WYSIWYG wiki writing, Mediawiki environment templates, Create new account, Upload files, Link archived reports to Report table, APA Citation Style

 * Mediawiki syntax: Wikitext examples, Math formulas, Images upload/display, Citing references
 * Mediawiki tools: Mediawiki tools, Editing tools, Mediawiki external editors

 * Latex for Windows (open source), WinEdt (shareware). NOTE: Latex is included in linux and Mac OS.
 * Online collaborative Word-like processors: Google docs, Zoho writer (with latex equations)

 * Scalable vector graphic software (Windows, linux, open source): Inkscape, TexText (latex extension for Inkscape)

Other courses

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User:Egm6321.f10.team17.smith

Hi, I am a newbie...

R1

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Demo: Using macros for almost WYSIWYG wiki writing

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User:Egm6321.f10/Other courses

Current:

Future:

EGM 3520 Mechanics of Materials, Spring 2013

EML 4507 Finite Element Analysis and Design, Spring 2013

Previous:

Courses:

EML 5526 Finite element method, Spring 2011

EGM 6341 Numerical Methods 1: Spring 2011, Spring 2010

EGM 6321 Principles of Engineering Analysis 1: Fall 2012, Fall 2011, Fall 2010, Fall 2009

EGM 6322 Principles of Engineering Analysis 2: Spring 2012, Spring 2009

CIS4914 CISE Senior design, Spring 2009

EGM 4200C Aerospace Structures, Fall 2008. See also User:Eas4200c.f08/Introduction for a sample wiki lecture presentation.

EGM 4313 Intermediate Engineering Analysis, Spring 2012

EML 4500 Finite element analysis and design, Fall 2008

Seminars:

Configuration integral (statistical mechanics)

EGM 6936 Seminar: Multiscale simulations, Fall 2011

EGM 6936 Seminar: Generalized Galerkin, CFD, turbulence, Spring 2011

EGM 6936 Seminar: Uncertainty quantification, Fall 2010

EGM 6936 Seminar: Multiphase flows, Turbulence, Fall 2009

EGM 6936 Seminar: Dimensional analysis, scaling, Spring 2009

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User:Tryptofish

I mainly work on the English Wikipedia. --Tryptofish 20:53, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Egm6321.f10

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Wikiversity Signpost
I'm trying to start up a Wikiversity equivalent of the Wikipedia Signpost. Someone suggested that I ask you if you have any ideas or ifyou would like to write an article yourself. Thanks, Rock drum (talk • contribs) 11:46, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Hole in the Wall
I like the fact that you include a link to [A hole in the wall: How children learn without a teacher] at the top of your project reporting template. :) –SJ + > 00:14, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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