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Just found this. Should have some sort of a tie-in with the School of History. The Jade Knight 11:37, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Good idea Jade Knight. I've put it here.  --ChrisfowTalk to me! 13:41, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

 * We need a learning project on local politics ... like electing a Wikiversity sympathizer to the Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation. We could go through the whole process of defining what we want in a candidates position, recruiting viable candidates, have internal selection process to pick candidate for the actual election, design ways to build support with other pigeonholed Wikimedians dissatisfied with the unresponsiveness of the existing Board and some of their inadequate or irresponsible performance.   I suppose I am for a reform candidate.  Others may believe we just need more active effective leaders to suppot the dramatic growth and potential of Wikimedia Foundation projects to fullfill their inspiring vision statements.  Mirwin 19:58, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, a real "learn by doing" project....start a political party and try to get candidates elected to the Board of Trustees. --JWSchmidt 20:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


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Topic talk:Irish

blanking
Why was this page blanked (an anonymous user created content, and then removed it)? The Jade Knight 11:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but I added the opening paragraph from the Wikipedia article, as well as links to Wikipedia and Wikibooks, so we don't just have an empty page to look at. Angr 18:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's much nicer. The Jade Knight 22:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Gaeltacht map
The Gaeltacht map is not correct.
 * Perhaps it could help others, if you could specify what is not correct ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 18:17, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * There is only one region missing to my knowledge, the Baile Bhúirne region in Cork. Otherwise, it seems ok. Bonzostar 20:17, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

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BCP/Physostegia virginiana

Physostegia virginiana

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This image totally ignores fair use. This is problematic. The Jade Knight 12:10, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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Fagopyrum esculentum

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Euphorbia lathyris

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User talk:Mahagaja

Hello Angr, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Pratheep
I can delete Pratheep, but I'm not sure it is hurting anything. --JWSchmidt 19:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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Introduction to Classical Studies

Welcome to the Classical Studies Academy of Wikiversity! Religous words will be covered, because they are part of many languages' natural place in today's world. This is also for those aspiring theologians who need the experience. Your first steps in Latin will be the singular & plural forms of hello. They are, respectively, salve and salvete.

Discussion questions

 * What classical piece of literature has impacted you the most? Why?

Readings

 * Classics
 * Ancient literature
 * Outline of classical studies
 * Further readings

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My Main Page

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Category talk:Language

Language & languages
What belongs in cat:Languages, and what belongs in cat:Language? The Jade Knight 22:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

This "Language" page should be renamed "Syntax" or something...I'm going to move all the pages in "Languages" to "Foreign Language Learning". Ugh. I'm trying to re-categorize this stuff so that the categories can actually be used as effective ways to navigate Wikiversity. --Trinity507 21:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to merge "Category:Languages" and "Category:Language" to erase confusion between the two. (if that's possible) Let "Category:English" or syntax be a subcategory of this. There is little activity on this page, so I'll just try to do this. Sidelight12 Talk 09:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Foreign language could be meant to say non-English language in most causes. That rarely can cause a problem, unless the definition of that is foreign to the English language and not any particular country. Which is fine by me. Other categories should land under Language. Whether it be non-english language, foreign language, English or syntax to clear up a lot of over categorization. Sidelight12 Talk 09:53, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

UDC
Source : http://www.udcsummary.info/php/index.php?tag=8&lang=en

 * 80 General questions relating to both linguistics and literature. Philology
 * 81 Linguistics and languages
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School talk:Advanced general studies

What Exactly Is Advanced General Studies in the Context of this School?
What exactly is advanced general studies in the context of this school? The Jade Knight 23:45, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

 * This Participant, the Founder of Advanced General Studies, sees "AGS" as "Advanced", not Introductory, "General", not Specialized, and "Studies", Studies.
 * "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." -- William Jefferson Clinton: As in the case of that former President of the United States, to answer the question "What exactly is advanced general studies in the context of this school?" requires a definition of is. The existence of such institutions as the |Institute for Advanced Study and the |Center for Advanced Study might permit us to allude to a sort of Wikiversity Equivalent.  If so, then we might be pointed in the direction of what "Advanced General Studies" are within the context of this school.  To define what exactly "Advanced General Studies" are, though, seems impossible.
 * Though the question is with reference to something purportedly "Advanced", this answer to the question may be simple; but the attempt has been made for it to be straightforward.
 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-09 (July 9, 2007) Time: 2153 UTC

 * As involved as that response is, it doesn't answer my question. What is, in simple terms, "Advanced General Studies"?  What is, in your mind, "General Studies"?  Is that core curriculum, or something different?  How does this relate to Wikiversity, and why is it a school, as opposed to, say, a Topic (or, more to the point, perhaps, a Portal)?  The Jade Knight 04:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The Jade Knight is thanked for his thoughtful questions, which will have the effect of broadening this Participant's Frame of Reference. Answers will come forth.  -- Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-10 (July 10, 2007) Time: 1349 UTC

 * Although he must apologize for his shortcomings, Your Servant still cannot answer the questions of whether "General Studies" are Core Curriculum or Something Different, how they relate to Wikiversity, and why AGS should be one of the Wikiversity Schools, contemplating becoming a large organizational structure containing various Divisions and Departments rather than being a Division or Department of some other Endeavor or only a Portal without an associated School; Your Servant still finds your Questions valuable and well worthy of Answers; and Your Servant still promises: "Answers will come forth."

 * Oppose. -- In his understanding of Wikiversity Policy, it is incumbent upon those proposing Mergers not to apply the "Merge" Template without first providing "a detailed set of reasons for the merge". Questions are not reasons.  Your Servant must most humbly and sincerely request that you remove the many "Delete" Templates and "Merge" Templates which you have placed on AGS Pages until or unless you comply with Wikiversity Policy and lay BILLS OF PARTICULARS against any Pages which offend you so much that you find it necessary to again propose that they be Deleted or Merged.  To do so will not in any way lessen the responsibility of Your Servant to comply with the Wikiversity Policies concerning Scholarly Ethics and, if possible, to satisfactorily answer your Questions, all of which to date have been Proper and Worthy.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Law, Date: 2007-07-22 (July 22, 2007) Time: 2218 UTC

 * Reason: I don't think there should be two domains for one project unless there is a good reason for the duplication; I think redirects would be more effective at getting new participants to be able to contribute effectively.  The Jade Knight 20:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

 * , Still. -- AGS contemplates becoming a Large Organizational Structure. If and when AGS does become Large, it will need its Associated Portal as do many Major Wikiversity Schools.  Defending these Projects, which are now in Development is serving to slow their Development.  My friend, if you will Assume the Good Faith of this School and its Associated Portal and withdraw, for now, the Merger Proposal, perhaps we can be on with our Work more expeditiously and thereby be given the opportunity to demonstrate that there is Good Reason for, not a Duplication, but a Full Treatment.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-26 (July 26, 2007) Time: 1801 UTC

 * Can you please point out some other schools that have separate portals? Portal:School of History redirects to School:History, and I am having trouble finding others.  The Jade Knight 05:56, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

 * This is an Excellent Assignment. Your Servant is pleased to go to work for you.  From his Investigation, he notes that the Results are Guaranteed to Edify Your Servant; and, he hopes that the Results will Edify you.  -- Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-27 (July 27, 2007) Time: 1925 UTC

 * Please remember that most verbs are not listed at Wikipedia, though they are at Wiktionary. The (very few) verbs which are at Wikipedia will be in gerund form (such as "running").  The Jade Knight 22:16, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Remembered. Done.  Please Forgive the Bad Links; they have been Corrected.  "I Seem to Be a Verb."  :-)  And now, Your Servant returns to his Edifying Investigations of Portals and Schools.  Fascinating.  Best regards, -- Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-28 (July 28, 2007) Time: 1504 UTC

Wikiversity Schools & Wikibooks
I noticed that the list of schools does not (currently) include the School of Advanced General Studies. From what I read, “the list” came about after discussion in sister-project Wikibooks (though I cannot spot the thread yet). In regard to the proposed merger, is the relation to Wikibooks something that would need to be considered? (Interaction, necessary books?) Tortillovsky (discuss • contribs) 17:03, 20 February 2018 (UTC)

Why Two (2) Domains for One (1) Project?
Why two domains for one project? The Jade Knight 04:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The Jade Knight is thanked for his thoughtful question, which will have the effect of broadening this Participant's Frame of Reference. An answer will come forth.  -- (s) Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-10 (July 10, 2007) Time: 1349 UTC

 * This is Not One (1) Project, but Two (2) Projects: The School and The Associated Portal. AGS contemplates becoming a Large Organizational Structure.  If and when AGS does become Large, it will need its Associated Portal as do many Major Wikiversity Schools need their Associated Portals.  The School and Its Associated Portal represent not a Duplication, but a Full Treatment.  Schools and Portals are of a Different Nature.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-26 (July 26, 2007) Time: 1821 UTC

Core Curriculum and Something Different
On 2007-07-10 (July 10, 2007), The Jade Knight inquired as to whether in the mind of Dionysios, "General Studies" was core curriculum or something different.

Dionysios is beginning to suspect that General Studies are certainly Not Core Curriculum. This, however, has Redirected his attention to the back to basics. To support a School of Advanced General Studies and Its Associated Portal, perhaps he will also need to offer Core Curriculum. Yet Another Content Development Project is in the works.

(s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-26 (July 26, 2007) Time: 1849 UTC

English Usage
You should put a notice somewhere that non-standard capitalization ("Eventually", etc.) is intentional, and should not be changed, so that some poor editor doesn't come and unwittingly try to correct your particular usage. The Jade Knight 22:05, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Your Humble and Obedient Servant Does Not really Want to Litter Pages with Notices that he Deviates from This, That, and the Other Norm, Be it this Time in the Matter Non-Standard Capitalization or Tomorrow who Knows What.

 * Your Humble and Obedient Servant Does Not Own This Page; and Every Poor Editor Who should Come Along and Begin to Correct Your Humble and Obedient Servant's Feeble Efforts might be Doing a Good Thing.

 * But, as those Poor Editors Do Come Along and Begin to Correct Your Humble and Obedient Servant's Feeble Efforts, however, Will They Not soon Discover that Something Is Transpiring that would Require Way Too Much Effort to put "Right"; and, Then, would They Not, Perhaps, Enter into the Spirit of what Is Transpiring and, Perhaps, Edit Something more Profound than the Accidents of Usage.

 * If some Notice is Needed or some Notices are Needed, though, Does Sir Knight have a Recommendation as the to Location where such Should Be Placed?

 * On the Subject of Capitalization, it should be noted that the Wikipedia Article on Capitalization is Correct when it Indicates that "Capitalization custom varies with language. The full rules of capitalization for English are complicated.  The rules have also changed over time, generally to capitalize fewer terms; to the modern reader, an 18th century document seems to use initial capitals excessively. It is an important function of English style guides to describe the complete current rules, although there is some variation from one guide to another."

 * "What Was Will Be". In the View of Your Humble and Obedient Servant any AGS Style Guide should Make Standard those 18th Century Patterns of Capitalization to which Reference is Made Above.

 * It might interest Sir Knight to Know that Your Humble and Obedient Servant is not completely Ignorant of History; and, as a Frequent Visitor to the Aforementioned 18th Century, Your Humble and Obedient Servant finds the 18th Century Patterns of Capitalization to Work Quite Well for Him and to Not Seem at All Excessive. 18th Century Patterns of Capitalization Can  Serve a Purpose; and "To Each His Own."

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-29 (July 29, 2007) Time: 0640 UTC

 * I'm not arguing with your usage—if I thought it a bad thing that you used non-standard capitalization, I would have already corrected it myself (and that you are aware of the historicity of your usage makes me all the more happy to encourage you in your current usage). To avoid confusion, however (as very, very few individuals expect 18th century capitalization these days), you may desire to add a line saying something along the lines of "Much of this page employs 18th century, as opposed to modern, capitalization.  This is intentional" somewhere near the top.  This would help clue users in as to what is going on in the capitalization department.  The Jade Knight 08:30, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Based on your Suggestion, a Statement has been added: The "School has Adopted its Own Manual of Style".

 * This is Considerably more Broad than "Much of this page employs 18th century, as opposed to modern, capitalization. This is intentional"; but it allows for much more Flexibility, for Your Servant Always a Primary Concern.

 * It is not until One accesses the actual Manual of Style that he learns that "Deviating from much Wikiversity and Wikipedia Practice, Capitals (Uppercase Letters) Are Frequently Used for Emphasis."; but it is there for whosoever Needs it.

 * Presumably, as the Manual of Style Grows, Capitalization and Perhaps Other Wikiversity Non-Standard Usages which may Become AGS Standard, such as the Perhaps Over-Abundant use of Boldface, the Perhaps Over-Abundant use of Links, and the Perhaps Over-Abundant use of Extreme Redundancy in Expression will find Justification as Pedagogical Tools.

 * Your Servant hopes so.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-30 (July 30, 2007) Time: 1059 UTC

 * At least it should help those who stumble upon it. The Jade Knight 04:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The Section under the Head "AGS Manual of Style" is Near the Top of the Page; and it would be Hard Not to Stumble Upon It. Nonetheless, The Text "Much of this Page employs 18th Century, as Opposed to Modern, Capitalization.  This is Intentional and is Established by the Manual of Style." has been Added to the Section.

 * That Issue therefore Seems to Be No Longer a Possible Stumblingstone; but The Manual of Style Now Seems to Have Become the Major Endeavor of the School of Advanced General Studies. If that is What is Needed, So Be It.

 * Your Servant Surrenders. Peace.  Terms.

 * Now Lettest Thou Thy Servant Depart in Peace. Thy Servant Must Return to Work.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Law, Date: 2007-07-31 (July 31, 2007) Time: 0608 UTC

Dignity Course
I am developing a Dignity course which may fit well here. If you like it, perhaps you can add it to the curriculum. (I hesitated to do this myself because I did not want to disturb the existing structure.)--Lbeaumont 22:56, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

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Define "Wikiendeavor"
I think a concise definition of what "Wikiendeavor" means would be helpful here. The Jade Knight 23:51, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

 * A consise definition of "Wikiendeavor" will be provided. For now, Let us call "Wikiendeavor" "that which is or can be undertaken with or using Wikis".

 * The Project Description indicates that this learning project is devoted to understanding the nature of the wikiendeavor, where "Wiki" is the Wikipedia Article: "Wiki" and "endeavor" is the Wiktionary Entry: "endeavor".

 * But the above definition is highly provisional. A better, clearer, and more concise definition of "Wikiendeavor" must eventually come forth.

 * Is Your Servant's wikipresence direction by indirection? He apologies; but his technique requires of him that he w:Academia:works in the way which he does.

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-14 (July 14, 2007) Time: 1936 UTC

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User talk:Falconus

Hello Falconus, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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ESL
Thanks for cleaning up the English as a Second Language page. I'm surprised I didn't notice that! (BTW, "his or her" is non-standard usage, more appropriately "edilect"—elite English usage). The Jade Knight 03:58, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * "Student" or "scholar" may both be appropriate, depending on context. "Learner" is not incorrect, but may sound somewhat awkward, as you point out.  The Jade Knight 00:52, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks --Falconus 15:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

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Draft talk:Archive/2024/Wikisphere

What Is Going on Here?
I'm really confused as to what the purpose of this page is. The Jade Knight 00:06, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Me too, but I'm not sure the author uses a watch list. --JWSchmidt 15:40, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Should we nominate it for deletion? That'd probably get his attention… The Jade Knight 00:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * This Page is part of a Project in Transformative Editing. The author found one (1) instance of a word of interest, "Wikisphere", at Wikiversity and started a Page in order for collaborative writing with reference to the "Wikisphere" to take place on the resource through Transformative Editing.
 * The author does use a Watchlist; and Wikiversity, JWSchmidt, & The Jade Knight do have his attention.
 * This is going to take some time.
 * (s) Dionysios  (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-14 (July 14, 2007) Time: 2059 UTC
 * If I understand you right, then, you intend for this to serve as a functional example of transformative editing? If so, consider moving this to Transformative Editing/Wikisphere.  The Jade Knight 22:33, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The Page is intended to become useful in its own right, as "Wikisphere".
 * (s) Dionysios  (talk), Date: 2007-07-15 (July 15, 2007) Time: 1124 UTC
 * Then I still fail to understand the function of this page. The Jade Knight 11:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

can any one please provide study material for software re engineering
 * The introduction to the page has been edited to describe this learning project as a ¿poetic? investigation of the topology of the WikiSphere. Does that help?  --  Dionysios  (talk), Date: 2007-10-21 (October 21, 2007) Time:  0951 UTC

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MediaWiki talk:Sitenotice

When adding to the site notice or changing it (but not when simply removing content), increment MediaWiki:Sitenotice id so that people who have dismissed the site notice will see the new topic. See here and here

Also, MediaWiki:Anonnotice exists, too.

another "feature"
death of Sitenotice —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JWS (talk • contribs) 16:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

alienating "others" ?
Erkan, "others" can be alienating. Consider alternatives such as "How would you describe Wikiversity to the unfamiliar". Hillgentleman|Talk 01:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello Hillgentleman, good idea. I will take your proposal until someone finds an even better sentence, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Wikiversity:Chat (try) 01:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Fix
Voting on the closure of Beta Wikiversity (a multilingual project coordinating new non-English Wikiversities) is now open. -> It has been proposed (since Vasiliev doesn't like to be explicitly named; otherwise I would have preferred an active voice) that Beta Wikiversity (a multilingual project for coordination between wikiversities and for hosting new wikiversities) be closed. Hillgentleman|Talk 03:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I am not sure, you want that the message should be changed as you suggest after the symbol -> ? Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 16:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, it sounds almost like it is "our" (ie the wikiversity community's, or whatever that means) proposal; secondly, the description "a multilingual project coordinating new non-English Wikiversities" is not accurate. So yes, please replace. Hillgentleman|Talk 17:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Required correction
Registration for Wikimania 2008 has closed so please remove the section saying that "Registration for Wikimania 2008 is now open." Thanks, Anonymous101 talk 19:09, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your awareness - removed, Erkan Yilmaz uses the Chat (try) 19:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that was quick. Anonymous101 talk 19:12, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Obsolete?
It seems like MediaWiki:Sitenotice id no longer needs to be updated to show new messages for people who have clicked dismiss the old message? --mikeu talk 02:53, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no sign in the manual that Sitenotice id is now unnecessary. As I read this, if someone has clicked "Dismiss," the site notice is not displayed even if it is edited, until Sitenotice id is bumped. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 21:21, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello, good news! Thanks to FreedomFighterSparrow and Brion, unregistered users can now hide the sitenotice again. Previously, they were forced to see it continuously.

In all cases, please use the sitenotice with care, and keep in mind that occasional visitors see sitenotices on all their visits, if they visit less than once a month or they don't click "dismiss" and save a cookie. Nemo 15:43, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Edit request - remove interface admin
Editprotected

Please remove the notice regarding interface administrators. It is no longer a proposal. Thanks, --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 07:21, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅ by --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 00:57, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Updating the site id
about https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?diff=2133989&oldid=2130531 - there is no reason to update the site id there, since anyone who saw and dismissed the prior message regarding both nominations now again sees the message about one of them (not reverting because the id cannot be reused) - it only needs to be bumped when there is something new --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:07, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't mind this popping up again on sitenotice as the discussion seems to have stalled. A reminder might not be a bad idea even if it seems redundant. It might attract more attention to the discussion. --mikeu talk 02:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If it was intentional, then my apologies; just wanted to make sure the impact was clear --DannyS712 (discuss • contribs) 02:19, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

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Welcome to etoptim's virtual office

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Solanum carolinense

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Wikiversity:Land of the networked

Welcome to Wikiversity: Land of the Networked!

External Link

 * |"In the land of the networked, the networker is king" -- Buzzmachine June 28, 2002.

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Used with the WikiU Film School Lesson on how to format a movie script


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User:M376

Mathematics for user...

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User talk:M376

Hello M376, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:Tharikrish

Hello Tharikrish, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:Etoptim~enwikiversity

Hello Etoptim, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User:RedAugust

I begin school in January to become a Linguist/German Teacher.

Previously known as 74.129.182.66

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User:Stealth~enwikiversity

I've thought that a wikiversity would be a good idea since I first saw wikipedia. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I'm here to help out any way I can. I'm particularly interested in participating in the Computer Science department. I will help with the organization attempts, as well as contribute my knowledge and resources in the area.

I'm fairly fluent in: I'm also familiar with:
 * c/c++
 * python
 * ruby
 * java
 * lisp

-Stealth

PS: My nickname uses some of the letters in my name (First, Middle, Last). All the letters are in the order that they appear. I'll give you five points if you can guess my full name, and I'll give you 10 points if there's a name for a word puzzle like this and you can tell me what it is.

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User talk:RedAugust

Hello RedAugust, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Adobe Photoshop/Move Tool

The move tool allows you to click and drag to move objects, layers and images from one position to other. The keyboard shortcut for Move tool is [V].

title: Adobe Photoshop/Move Tool


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User:Muzicwoman

I'm learning how to design my own webpage.

title: User:Muzicwoman


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User:Keithager

I'm an undergraduate student with a major in mathematics education and minors in chemistry and the Spanish language. I love to help, and I love to learn, so the idea of Wikiversity has a very strong appeal to me. I'm new to the Wiki community and process, so it might take some time to become accustomed to everything, but I would love to help if anyone needs anything!

Personal
Probably my favorite thing in the world is learning, and I don't care about what. Everything interests me at least a little bit, but the subjects that interest me the most are mathematics, foreign language, and photography. I like things that have a definite pattern to them; as long as I know or can find the pattern, then I can figure out just about anything I need to figure. I speak English (obviously), I can speak Spanish, I can use American Sign Language (ASL), and I know a minimal amount of French. I would love to complete my training in French in addition to learning to speak Italian and Japanese, among other things.

Goals
By no means do I consider myself a master of anything, but I also do not consider myself a complete novice in my fields. My goal with this project is to share the knowledge that I have, while at the same time using this opportunity to explore the realms of knowledge that I don't yet understand. My personal philosophy about education, as adopted from my high school calculus teacher, is that teaching something to someone else is the best way to prove that you understand it. So, if I can be of help, I'll do my best, and if I can't, then I'll find someone who can, and then I can learn something, too.

Studies
The university-level mathematics courses that I have completed to date include the following:

• Calculus and Analytical Geometry I

• Calculus and Analytical Geometry II

• Calculus and Analytical Geometry III

• Finite Mathematics

• Discrete Mathematics

• Manipulatives in Mathematics

• Introduction to Computer Programming (C++)

The university-level chemistry courses that I have completed to date include the following:

• General Chemistry I

• General Chemistry Lab I

• General Chemistry II

• General Chemistry Lab II

The university-level Spanish courses that I have completed to date include the following:

• …

As the bulk of my experience has been in the field of mathematics, that will also be my main focus here at Wikiversity. However, I do have some four years of prior experience with the Spanish language, and a very minor understanding of chemistry, so I will do my best to help where I can without overstepping the bounds of my capabilities.

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User:Seditionarypunk

- Attends Thompson Rivers University in Canada

- Currently completing a Bachelor of Tourism Management Degree, Major in Adventure Studies

- Interested in Environment, Politics, Culture, Societal Structures.

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User talk:Stealth~enwikiversity

Hello Stealth, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Your account will be renamed
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The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

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Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:44, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Emergency Medicine/Organization of emergency medicine

I don't know anything about the background of whoever wrote the EM entry, but it certainly doesn't apply to the US. Emergency Medicine is a specialty in its own right, with dedicated residency programs. "ER physicians may work in an Emergency Room, but are always trained in another specialty (such as Pulmonology, Anaestisology, Critical Care, Cardiology, or any multitude of specialties), and so commonly end up treating patients in the Emergency Room and then continuing their long-term care afterwards" is simply false in the States. Some EM docs do fellowships, but the majority are board-certified in EM alone.

Whoever wrote the "Disposition" section needs to do some extra research. What he's written is patently false.


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User talk:Seditionarypunk

Hello Seditionarypunk, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:Keithager

Hello Keithager, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:Tanvir~enwikiversity

Hello Tanvir, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Image copyright problems

 * Your currently affected uploads are listed below. For each, please provide a license template and source. Thanks .– Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 23:55, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

 * 2007-07-08 07:29, Tanvir: Jokes.jpg: untagged! ; 0 (0)
 * 2007-07-08 07:32, Tanvir: Tax.jpg: untagged! ; 0 (0)

Your account will be renamed
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Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:45, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

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BCP/Origanum majorana

Origanum majorana

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BCP/Magnolia grandiflora

Magnolia grandiflora

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Bloom Clock/Log pages

The Log Pages are the heart of the Bloom Clock's content. Each plant that has been recorded as blooming should have it's own log page, where sightings are logged for the purpose of data collection. As data is accumulated, the pages are categorized by time, region, color, and type so that the ../Keys/ can be created.

Log pages are created using a substituted template (bcp3 or one of its regional variants). In turn, the log page will then itself serve as a template on the graphical list page.

Pages created with later versions of bcp3 (version 7.7.1 and later) also include a template for text descriptions of the plant, to help users accurately identify the plant.

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User:Eyesglare

Hi everybody!

My name is Cinzia, I'm a 21-year-old university student from Lake Garda, Italy.

I study foreign languages (German and English) for tourism and business, hence I hope I can both learn/help with German and English pages.

Useful Stuff
English Language Reference Desk

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User:Dionysios/Transformative editing

Welcome to Wikiversity: Transformative Editing!

A Lathe of Heaven
As in Ursula K. Le Guin's The Lathe of Heaven in which the plot revolves around a character whose dreams alter reality, transformative editing, too, is productive dreaming but in which Pages are transformed into something entirely different by branching, such that the original is retained and the New Pages go off in perhaps an entirely different direction. -- (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-09 (July 9, 2007) Time: 1320 UTC

Works in Progress

 * Wikiendeavor
 * Just Get Started
 * Wikiversity:Land of the Networked
 * Wikisphere

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User talk:Dionysios/Transformative editing

== "Topic Talk" Copied from "Wikiversity: Transformative Editing", Date: 2007-07-09 (July 9, 2007) Time: 1354 UTC==

This needs a better explanation—for example, what is transformative editing? The Jade Knight 23:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

It sounds like some kind of experiment in "thinking outside the box".....take an existing text out of its original context and "run with it" in a new direction. I've been thinking that maybe we should narrowly define the contents of the Wikiversity namespace. Can we put everything that can be thought of as a learning project into the main namespace and all content development projects into the topic namespace? Maybe the Wikiversity namespace should just be for policies, guidelines and a few other items that are truly meta-content about the Wikiversity project. --JWSchmidt 15:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The characterization of this Wikiendeavor as some kind of experiment in "thinking outside the box", taking an existing text out of its original context and "running with it" in a new direction seems to this Participant who introduced the Page as being right on the mark.

 * A New Page, "Topic:Transformative Editing", duplicating "Wikiversity: Transformative Editing" has just been produced; so, if "Wikiversity: Transformative Editing" seems not to qualify for the "Wikiversity:" Namespace, there would be no problem with deleting "Wikiversity: Transformative Editing" and perhaps later restoring it, if it does turn out to qualify for the "Wikiversity:" Namespace.

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-09 (July 9, 2007) Time: 1348 UTC


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User talk:Itanius

Hello Itanius, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:Theabrar

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Hi

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User talk:Alphin

Hello Alphin, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Help with a new initiative?
I have proposed an idea for a new way of creating technical learning content: http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Improving_Technical_Topics_At_Wikiversity

Would you be interested in helping with something like this? Once I get a representative from each discipline I have listed, I would like to hold a brainstorming session. Please let me know what you think! Daviddoria 14:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

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User talk:Eyesglare

Hello Eyesglare, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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User talk:JoyBirdandBigD

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User talk:Ivan Aulia Ahsan

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User:Handrian

Hi, I'm Andreas R. "Handrian"

I am a native of Volos, Greece. I've been traveling abroad lately, mostly to Europe. I have studied Civil Engineering in Xanthi in Demokritus University of Thrace, Xanthi, Greece.

I'm on MSc Course on Seismic Static Analysis in Greek Open University, Patra, Greece.

I'm also studying Planning and Regional Development in University of Thessaly, Volos, Greece.

Fields I'm interested in

 * Civil Engineering
 * Mathematics

Docent

 * Have contribute to the following articles
 * Have created the following images

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User talk:Handrian

Hello Handrian, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Introduction to Programming/Subprograms

 * Reading Assignment: Rube Goldberg machines (Wikipedia article)

It is an unfortunate fact of life that things break—and computer programs are certainly no exception. One of the things that engineers have learned is that, in general, complex things break more often than simple things. Unfortunately, even a well built program can be tremendously complicated. Something like Microsoft Windows XP is probably more complicated than the Space Shuttle. It isn't surprising then, that software has bugs.

In many disciplines, including mathematics, it is a common to solve big, complicated problems by breaking them down into a group of smaller, simpler problems. That is the basic principle behind subprograms. Rather than write one big, complicated program that solves the entire problem, we can write several small pieces of a program that each solve part of the problem and, then, combine them together, in some specific way, to solve the entire problem.

Subprograms go by different names—depending on the programming language being used.

 * Subroutine – FORTRAN, Visual Basic, Perl
 * Procedure – Pascal
 * Function – Pascal, C, C++, Java, JavaScript, Python
 * Super Expression – GML, GMPL
 * Method – A generic term used when speaking of many programming languages that refers to any function, procedure, or subroutine.

Note: the difference between a procedure (or subroutine) and a function is that functions return a result, whereas procedures do not. In some languages, such as C# this distinction is implicit. In others, such as Pascal, it is explicit.

 * Next Lesson
 * Previous Lesson

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Film Scoring/Butchering MIDI Files/Importing Beethoven into GarageBand

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Importing Beethoven into GarageBand
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A simple example

 * I will show you a simple way to take chords from a piece of classical music.

 * I like Beethovan so I prefer to take chords from his works whenever possible.

 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #1
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Step 1 - Locate the file on the Internet

 * The first step is to find a Midi file that you like.

 * Today, I am looking for Beethoven's 9th symphony, 4th movement. I found this music at :

http://www.classicalmidiconnection.com/cmc/petr_cvikl.htm

 * style="padding:0em 0.5em 0em 0.5em;" |

Screen shot of the midi web page
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid #abd5f5; background-color:#f1f5fc;" |
 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #2
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 2 - Drag to GarageBand

 * After I download the midi file, I go to the finder and drag the icon of the midi file to GarageBand. This tells GarageBand to Import the file and assign it to multiple tracks in GarageBand.

 * Note : If GarageBand does not accept the Midi file, I open the Midi file in QuickTime Movie Player and export the file as a Midi file (going from Midi file to Midi file).  This cleans up the file and prepares it for GarageBand.

 * As the file is imported into GarageBand, it expands greatly taking up very many tracks.

 * Then I play the file.

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GarageBand with the midi file click on picture to enlarge
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid #abd5f5; background-color:#f1f5fc;" |
 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #3
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 3 - Isolate the notes

 * I only want a small section of the music. Therefore, I must isolate the notes I want otherwise the file will be too large and awkward to work with.

 * To trim the file, I select all the tracks and put the play marker before the notes I want. Then I select SPLIT from the menu.

 * I do the same thing again at the end of the notes I am interested in. Now each track has three regions.

 * Don't worry about accuracy. Extra notes can be eliminated later.  Better to have too many notes than not enough.

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A track can be broken into regions click on picture to enlarge
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 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #4
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 4 - Delete unwanted regions

 * After I have broken each track into regions, I carefully select the regions that I don't want and delete them.

 * For this example, this is all I have left.

 * Now, the file is much easier to work with!

 * style="padding:0em 0.5em 0em 0.5em;" |

The same tune reduced to a few chords
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid #abd5f5; background-color:#f1f5fc;" |

click on picture to enlarge
 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #5
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 5 - Magnify the image

 * Now that I have elimiated everything except the chord, I magnify the image to full screen width.

 * I quickly see that many of the tracks have no notes. These tracks are empty.

 * I get rid of the tracks which are empty simply by deleting the entire track.

 * style="padding:0em 0.5em 0em 0.5em;" |

Now I see the notes more clearly in GarageBand
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid #abd5f5; background-color:#f1f5fc;" |

click on picture to enlarge
 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #6
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 6 - Turn off ugly tracks

 * Now I have only the tracks with notes. However, most of the tracks are either not interesting or have instruments which I do not find interesting.

 * In GarageBand, you can turn off the track by clicking on the icon for silencing the track.

 * style="padding:0em 0.5em 0em 0.5em;" |

It is much easier to see without empty tracks
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid #abd5f5; background-color:#f1f5fc;" |

click on picture to enlarge
 * }

{| cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="margin:0em 0em 1em 0em; width:100%" Step #7
 * style="width:50%; vertical-align:top; border:1px solid Gold; background-color: LightYellow;" rowspan="1"|

Step 7 - Select better instruments

 * GarageBand uses general rules for importing Midi files. It assumes that all Midi files are designed for use with General Midi sound modules.  Therefore, the imported file will sound good but not always great.

 * I can easily try each track using different musical instruments. I try either to find better instruments or to try to get totally different sounds.   This part is really fun!

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I have a whole symphony orchestra to select from
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Step 8 - The finished file

 * Once I try all the tracks and change the instruments until I like the final results, I eliminate the unwanted (unused) tracks.

 * To make some of the notes more realistic, I fade the notes out and sometimes I even fade the notes in so it sounds real.

 * Now I have the final GarageBand file.

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Step 9 - Convert to OGG

 * I export the GarageBand file to an audio file. I open Audacity (or any audio processing program) and create a new page.  I import the audio file and trim it if needed.

 * I save the audio file to my hard drive. Done!

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Listen to the music

 * Listen to the final result. I have taking a long piece by Beethovan and extracted just one set of chords.

 * This might seem like a lot of work for just two notes. But two notes from Beethovan sound much better than two notes from me.

 * Thanks Beethovan!

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User talk:Cslashb

Hello Cslashb, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. When leaving comments for others to read, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone keep track of who is writing messages. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. To help you get started:
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Also, don't forget to experiment with the links to your left. Be bold, and see you around Wikiversity! --JWSchmidt 22:17, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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VJ-U/VJ-U High School class

Here's my first draft of the VJ-U high school curriculum. It's kind of thin at the moment so please add to it or re-organize it as you see fit. :)

VJ-U @ UAMA Fall 2007 Curriculum
purpose of vj-u: What is the point of art? It makes you think. It presents something different, something out of context that makes your brain wake up and try to fit it into the world. Sometimes that breaks your world for the better. Now perhaps more than ever it is hard to get people's attention except through entertainment. Art is a process of speaking entertainingly.

goals:

 * a primer on the art of the VJ
 * to teach a set of broadly useful media skills
 * to teach collaborative play as a way of working
 * to teach media literacy and criticism

Incentives:
 * get free tickets for students to see VJ concerts
 * see relevant Eyebeam events
 * visit IDMI

(hoped for) Prerequisites: _for the fall these will have to be built into the curriculum._
 * basic computer literacy
 * basic video production

Potential tie-ins to academic classes:
 * math
 * science
 * social studies
 * English (citation and research skills)

Connections to Eyebeam and other external organizations:
 * visit Open Lab
 * a critique session with Eyebeam artists for midterm and finals
 * for grade, must attend 5 of 8 outside events
 * performance at some venue (The Tank, Monkeytown) for just VJs and DJs

Class norms:
 * during presentations, give your full attention to the person who is speaking.
 * Everyone helps set up and break down the equipment at the beginning and end of class.
 * respond to one medium through another (blog, video...)

First day:

 * What is art's purpose?  Who/what/where/when/why
 * bring in examples of what art is
 * where can it take place?
 * talk about norms
 * write expectations, goals, norms on class blog (on http://uama.tiged.org/VJ-U)

What's a VJ? Who's a VJ?
Investigate the phenomenon of live visual performance through video footage and web searches. Activities: Do now: Quick search challenge: search for "VJ" and "visualist" on different search engines and show interesting results to class. Who I am: write words on the board in a word-painting style.

Video breakdown
Break down video to its fundamental elements: light, color, motion, ....

Body movin'
Dance control, motion capture

...

Camera exercises

 * Exquisite Corpse Videos
 * 2 person shooter
 * Cubist Portraiture
 * Obstacle Course/Paparrazzi
 * 1-shot Words
 * Repetition Exercise (from Meisner)

Music breakdown
Break down music/audio to its constituent elements and apply them to visual performance.
 * beats
 * structure
 * dynamics
 * timbre

Compositing (math class crossover)
Look at blend modes (addition, subtraction, multiplication, etc)

jam session
...

video walks
...

notes from first meeting with Liz
Eyebeam events :

 * street/interventionist art: new show opens Sept 27 - ~Nov 22
 * Conflux collab: Eyebeam will launch eco-visualization challenge
 * Performa festival collaboration: maybe the first of these A/V jams/parties

 * 3rd show opens end of December: sustainability and green design
 * possible design class collab

= other events
 * Roulette's Saturday performances for kids (director might welcome collab)

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Draft:Archive/2024/Adobe Illustrator/Introduction To Illustrator

This lesson provides you with an introduction to the program and some of the major concepts that you'll find in future lessons. Please read through the topics below before continuing to another lesson. You can click on any of the hyperlinked words to get more in-depth information about that topic. Please keep in mind that the images and diagrams used in these lessons may be slightly different than your copy of Illustrator.

What is Illustrator?
Adobe Illustrator is a program designed to create and edit vector images.

What Are Layers?
One of the most important concepts in graphic software is the proper use and manipulation of layers. A layer can be thought of as a piece of clear acetate that you can draw on. The major advantage of using layers is that you can easily manage and edit pieces of your artwork without disturbing the rest.

An easy way to picture this concept is to imagine that you are looking out a window. Now if you were to draw a picture on the window, you would essentially have a layer that can be edited without affecting the background image.

It is important to note that layers are not compatible with some image formats and the image will have to be flattened. Also note that layers will increase the file size and proper management will have to be performed to keep your files healthy and efficient.

What is the Difference Between Vector And Bitmap Graphics?
Another important concept to understand is the differences between the terms vector and bitmap. More precisely we should understand what a vector image is and what a bitmap image is. These terms simply describe what type of image you are making but play a huge role in how that image will be utilized.

Bitmap graphics are the most common type of image. Bitmap images are made up of [*[w:Pixel|Pixels]], which are tiny colored dots on your monitor that make up images. Screen resolution is a term that specifies that there are 72 dots per square inch of the image (72dpi) which is displayed at 72 pixels per square inch on the screen (72ppi). For editing purposes, the graphic standard is 300dpi so that there is enough information available to play with. The main disadvantage of using bitmap images is that when you resize the image, you will lose quality and the picture will start to look "blurry" or "pixelated". This is particularly true when making images larger and is due to forcing the image, which has a set number of pixels, into a larger size. Thus if a 72dpi, 1" x 1" red square has 72 pixels and were enlarged 200%, it would be forced to become 2" x 2" and 288 pixels. The extra pixels are formed by taking the difference in color between the surrounding pixels. The red square would look fine for the most part, but only because it is one color.

In contrast, vector images are made up of resizable paths. You can enlarge or reduce vector images and they will retain their quality perfectly (keep in mind that the screen displays everything at 72dpi/ppi, so sometimes they do not appear perfect). The major disadvantage of using a vector image is the amount of effort required to produce a highly detailed image. We will talk more about when to use a vector image and when to use a bitmap image in future lessons.

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Wikiversity talk:Questions

I am one of the pioneers of personal computing, I opened the second computer store in the world and later became the founding Editor-in-Chief and Publisher of Computer Shopper magazine. I also wriote many books on personal computing in the4 early days. Now I am 87 year sold and of sound mental health, however many of my experiences and well of those of my friends will die with me. I have written Stan Veit's History of The Personal Computer and created PC History which now being maintained by a group in England. I would like to contribute to Wikiversity. If you will pllease point me in the right direction. I have the time and equipment to do this, please contact me at sveit at cfl d0t rr d0t com Stan Veit

If you return to this page, please create a Wikiversity user account. You can go to a page such as History of personal computers and start typing. If you are new to wiki, see Introduction. --JWSchmidt 02:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

 * This sounds very interesting. Wow! --HappyCamper 03:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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Portal talk:Advanced General Studies

Why Separate Portals and Schools for This Subject?
I don't understand why we would have separate portals and schools on this subject. They should probably be combined into one. The Jade Knight 04:48, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Portals and Schools Distinct

 * Portals and schools are two distinct things. --JWSchmidt 05:18, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'm aware. Can you please explain to me why it would be useful to have a School:AGS, and then also a Portal:AGS which contains nothing but links to other portals?  That's the part I'm having trouble seeing the benefit of.  The Jade Knight 06:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

This Portal was Under Construction

 * This Portal was Under Construction. "Advanced" Users can presently use This Portal to Link to other Portals in their efforts to pursue their "General Studies".  -- (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-11 (July 11, 2007) Time: 2044 UTC

What Are the Potential Effects of the Proposed Merger?

 * What are the potential effects of the proposed Merger of these two (2) Pages. Are not both Pages useful?  If merged would the content of both Pages remain on the New Page?  These Placeholder Links seem to this AGS Participant to be doing their job.  Are Users being misdirected somehow?  -- Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-11 (July 11, 2007) Time: 2044 UTC

 * If merged, the content of both pages would indeed remain on the new page. What would happen, is, for example, the material here on the Portal would be moved to the School, and the Portal would become a redirect to the School.  This has the advantage of making it easier for users to find relevant content—if they're looking on content about "Advanced General Studies", they wouldn't have to figure out whether they want the Portal, the School, the Topic, etc., because they would all redirect to the same place, where all of the content on Advanced General Studies could be found.  Follow?  The Jade Knight 01:10, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Your servant does not follow this at all. It was intended that the portal should eventually become a major portal and the school should remain a major school.  The plan was that the portal should eventually direct users to those friendly introductions to learning resources promised on the major portal page as well as providing links to Wikiversity schools and other content development projects in the "Topic:" namespace.

 * What is beyond Your servant is an understanding of how this proposed collapse of the portal into the school would make anything easier for anyone.

 * So far, the primary effect of the "decoration" of the pages of the portal and the school with a  template appears to have been to greatly discourage the the founder of the the portal and the school.

 * Nobody other than the proposer of the merger and the founder of the the portal and the school has posted comments after an urgent Request for Comments was placed on the the portal and school pages nearly one (1) month ago.

 * Perhaps it is time to withdraw the proposal and let the the founder of the the portal and the school return to development of these pages. The proposal could be renewed if it were later to be found that good progress toward a major Advanced General Studies Portal is not being made.

 * (s) Dionysios  (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-08-29 (August 29, 2007) Time:  2023 UTC

 * When I said "follow?", I meant to ask if you understood what I was saying. Ultimately, it's a matter of a few things (and maybe some I'm not thinking of):
 * What is the difference between the School and the Portal?
 * How will new users be aware of this difference?
 * If the two will simply contain different content, would it be easier for new users to find that content gathered in one place, with multiple redirects pointing to it, or would it be easier to have it scattered about (why?)?
 * The Jade Knight 20:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Again, your servant does not understand what you are saying at all.

 * But, to respond to your three (3) concerns:

 * 1. The difference between a portal and a school is that the portal should direct users to, again, those friendly introductions to learning resources promised on the major portal page as well as providing links to Wikiversity schools and other content development projects in the "Topic:" namespace. Schools help Wikiversity participants organize learning resources for a set of related academic topic areas.  Portals quickly guide new Wikiversity visitors to educational content. The major Wikiversity schools are content development projects where Wikiversity editors plan, organize, and develop related topics in a subject area. See: Wikiversity namespace for more information about Wikiversity portal, school, and topic pages.

 * 2. It is not directly the concern of your servant how new participants might become aware of the differences. He speculates that this might happen through these new participants visiting these same Portals and Schools and Experiencing the Differences.  New participants who are more oriented toward Policy may well Discover the Differences through consideration of the Wikiversity Naming Conventions.  It makes little difference to your servant how or if new participants might become aware of the Differences; he is confident that they will do so if they need to do so; but he is just hoping to soon be past this Merger Controversy and to be back to Work.

 * 3. Since the two do contain different Content, it is not easier for new participants to find that Content gathered in one place, with multiple redirects pointing to it, but to have All Content Located in the Appropriate Place. This is because The Technology makes it More Desireable to put Everything in its Proper Place.

 * Again, it is beyond the understanding of your servant how this proposed collapse of the portal into the school would make anything easier for anyone.

 * Again, so far, the primary effect of the "decoration" of the pages of the portal and the school with a  template appears to have been to greatly discourage the the founder of the the portal and the school.

 * Again, it is time to withdraw the proposal and let the the founder of the the portal and the school return to development of these pages. The proposal could be renewed if it were later to be found that good progress toward a major Advanced General Studies Portal is not being made.

 * (s) Dionysios  (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-09-11 (September 11, 2007) Time:  1113 UTC

 * I'm not sure what is going on here. Wikiversity school and portal pages have different functions. Any large subject area can have both school and portal pages. --JWSchmidt 21:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This Participant, too, is beginning to wonder what is or is not happening here.   The Difference between Portals and Schools seems clearly established; and the Proposed Merger has had substantial discussion.  This Participant has made the Good Faith Request that the proposal to merge the the portal and the the school be withdrawn.  Of course the Proposal could be renewed without prejudice if the Proposer of the Merger were later to find that good progress toward the Advanced General Studies Portal becoming a major portal is not being made.  Still, the Merger Proposal "Decorates" these pages, thereby discouraging Work on them.  Fighting Deletionism and Mergeritis unfortunately are of necessity coming to consume more and more of the increasingly limited time this participant has for Wikiversity.  --   Dionysios  (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-09-11 (September 11, 2007) Time:  1113 UTC

Do Participants in Schools Have Any Prerogatives Concerning Their Own Schools and Associated Portals? If so: Decision

 * Do Particpants in Schools have any Prerogatives when it comes to how they organize their own Schools and the associated Portals?

 * If the present Participant has Governance in this Matter and it is put for Decision, the Decision is: "Do Not Merge".

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity School of Advanced General Studies, Date: 2007-07-11 (July 11, 2007) Time: 2044 UTC

 * We haven't really established a policy on this yet. Everything is done by consensus, but there is also a great deal of deference that goes on at Wikiversity.  You do not have absolute governance over the school, though you are currently its only participant, but at the same time, being the only participant, it is my opinion (but not currently policy) that your input on this matter should carry extra weight when compared to those who are not involved in the School.  The Jade Knight 01:14, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

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Topic talk:Generalism

Let Us Have Some Definitions
What's the difference between Generality and Generalism? The Jade Knight 04:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

 * The Jade Knight is thanked for his thoughtful question, which will have the effect of broadening this Participant's Frame of Reference. An answer will come forth.  -- (s) Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-10 (July 10, 2007) Time: 1628 UTC

Interested Parties Invited to Comment
A Discussion of the proposed Merger of this Topic with the Topic of Generality has begun with a request for specification of the difference between Generality and Generalism. Interested Parties are invited to comment. -- (s) Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-10 (July 10, 2007) Time: 1653 UTC

Description of Differences
The difference between Generality and Generalism is the difference between Generality and Generalism. -- Dionysios (talk), a Participant in the Wikiversity Institute of Thought, Date: 2007-07-14 (July 14, 2007) Time: 2214 UTC

 * See Topic talk:Generality for a response. The Jade Knight 22:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Avoiding Fine Distinctions Here; Being Expansive

 * Here, through a Definitive Link, Dionysios defines Generalism in Terms of Generalization.

 * He chooses not to get too caught up in fine distinctions, but to be expansive. The Logic of Pure Thought might be Flexible, allowing Categories to shift and Connections to be made.  He  would wish here to suggest that Generality is the most general of wisdoms, knowledges, or informations.

 * These Two (2) Separate Topics should be permitted to continues because they seemed to the initiator of the Pages to be sufficiently distinct that in his Best Judgement he determined that he needed them. This was a Command Decision External Link: Command Decision.

 * Your Servant requests that the Proposal to Merge these Pages be Withdrawn so that Your Servant can get on with his work.

 * Best regards,

 * (s) Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-16 (July 16, 2007) Time: 753 UTC

 * Response is once again at Topic talk:Generality. The Jade Knight 11:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Dionysios has now accepted the assignment of writing Clear Definitions on the Pages. -- Dionysios (talk), Date: 2007-07-16 (July 16, 2007) Time: 1142 UTC

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Topic talk:Artificial cognition

This topic sounds like it may belong better in the main namespace. The Jade Knight 05:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

title: Topic talk:Artificial cognition