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User talk:Timboliu

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Help:Video
Hi - does the page above help? Sincerely, James -- Jtneill - Talk - c 03:35, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Project Structure
I was looking at your project for Corporate social responsibility. I would encourage you to consider having a primary project page or pages and then subpages underneath. In other words, rather than having a separate CSR: free laptop, you can use CSR/Free laptop or Corporate social responsibility/Free laptop. This puts all of the pages in the same learning project, and can ease both maintenance and navigation. Just something to consider. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 02:10, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Dave, thanks for the tip, I will change this. Cheers, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 07:29, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Beta-Wikiversity
Hi Tim, I just joined Beta and I would like you to welcome me their so I can understand it a little more. Not a lot of pages in English are their! --Goldenburg111 20:34, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, Goldenburg111. Please share your questions, maybe I can help? Cheers, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 21:05, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, why aren't their pages in English their? I already created "Love/En" and created a English and Feelings category. --Goldenburg111 21:15, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Because the English wikiversity is already out of beta. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 23:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Project Structure Revisited
We are currently making a concerted effort to place all resource pages within an appropriate learning project, such that they would be consistent with the idea of a course or extended learning experience. This would be the combination of multiple lessons, activities, projects, etc.

Please share what overarching learning projects you are working on, and how you would advise structuring the pages that have been created so that they can be moved under one of these learning project(s).

Thanks!

Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 23:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

 * Hi David, I'm active on the Dutch wikiversity, I'm new to the English wikiversity. The learning projects I'm working in is probably system development. I'm an expert in model driven development (systems build based on models). I think modelling is also a learning project. Is this the information you are looking for? Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 21:21, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

 * Yes, that's the idea. I'm not sure what the Dutch model is, but what we're trying to do here is have root pages be only used for extended learning projects.  Our intention is that root pages would be multiple lessons on a topic rather than individual pages or even definitions.  See Lua or Astronomy or Introduction to Swedish for different approaches to this.  Style isn't the issue, just substance.  For example, Concepts isn't something that we would be able to create a course from, and even the term Concepts could be used by and have widely varying meanings to different projects.  Since this is supporting material for some other project, we want to identify the project and move the content under that project.

 * It's not necessary for you to do the moving yourself. I have a bot I can use to move pages relatively automatically once I know where they are supposed to go.  So, think about it and let me know what the best overall learning project or projects would be for the pages you're currently working on.  Provide a link or links if you would, just so I know exactly where the pages should go.

 * Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 22:10, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi David, can we add the concept-page to learning project modelling (https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Modelling)? In 2014 the RuralWeb community (see RuralWeb for more info) wants to start a learning circle to further develop this learning project. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 22:52, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

 * Done. Let me know if I missed anything.  Thanks!  -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 03:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi David, looks fine! Thanks for the help. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 20:06, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

"accidentally" saw deletions on beta Wikiversity and have a request to you please
See my comment there. Since I see now comments of you in the colloquium here at en.WV, I'd like to ask you to make a note/timeline of the situation also on beta please, ideally on Bable, so it gets more publicity. If something has gone wrong let's try to fix that. (If there exists such a page already, point me there please), Erkan Yilmaz 16:37, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * also: I started this at Babel, Erkan Yilmaz 16:45, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Erkan_Yilmaz. Thanks! I saw your comment on Babel this morning and added a reaction. I now also see this message. Maybe you can help me with starting the discussion? Regards, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 07:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

 * This is getting hot on Beta. At this point, Timboliu, I suggest sitting on your hands. Do nothing but watch. I have documented the history on Beta Babel, and that was vociferously and ridiculously challenged. I see pretty well what is happening, it's common Wikipedian mindset, including habits of taking everything personally and attacking people. We do things differently here, and some of us are Beta users -- and Erkan is also a sysop there -- and will act to support the development of Beta projects as true Wikiversity projects, not defective and weak reflections of encyclopedias. Your actions on Beta were unskillful, but, here, our goal would not be to blame you for being unskillful, it would be to help you learn skill. That's a great deal of what we are about, learning by doing.

 * There is also at least one mature Dutch Wikipedian who is peripherally involved. I suspect sanity to prevail, for there to be some restraint shown, and the situation will become win-win. We know how to do that here, wouldn't this be a great foundation for a Dutch Wikiversity? So, Timboliu, at this point, sit back and watch the show. It's going to be interesting, one way or another. Stop arguing, even though you are at least partly right. You will have work to do, wait until you are invited or some specific comment is clearly needed. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 19:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Abd, thanks for your help. I will stop arguing and watch the show :-) Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 20:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the discussion is already taking place at many places (reading up on things). I think I'll make some notes on beta while reading/answering. Erkan Yilmaz 20:48, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I also contacted Wikimedia Nederland. On of their goals for 2014 is to improve the way we collaborate in the (Dutch) community. I asked if Wikimedia Nederland can facilitate a discussion. In my opinion we should also involve people from grown-up communities to learn from their best practices. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 05:26, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, reaching out is good. We can also start somethings ourself, so people can join anytime.
 * First I'd propose "assessment" of the Dutch WV policies/rules (see also Wikiversity_talk:Policies/Nl on beta). Because if these are not OK, things like the current situation will repeat (also for other new WV learners). If those policies/rules need addition: then better we change/adapt them now. It doesn't matter if those rules were recently created, it's a starting point.
 * The second thing is (as I said on your beta WV talk page): what kind of minimal solution is OK for you? since you know your learning resources the best (and also have copies), we could start by restoring them step by step? This will show involved persons (who can NOT see the deleted content) what you were working on at beta.WV. E.g. if pages were deleted without justifying cause, ... We can talk about those restored pages like: getting the view of different persons (e.g. what improvement potential can be seen; what can we change on the undeleted learning resource right now, so people understand their goal; should it be re-deleted, ...)
 * Since you asked where to do the discussion: this can be done anywhere, so e.g. we could start something like this (Learning from conflict and incivility <- the topic in this link is "irrelevant", it's just an example. I would like all concentrated on 1 place (e.g. on beta.WV) with a timeline, so others can see how we came to this situation). Another way is also to create something like a blog and write there thoughts up as they appear. Erkan Yilmaz 06:14, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * see also, Erkan Yilmaz 09:17, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

feedback (after reading some learning resources)

 * I missed categories (see e.g. )
 * categories help that interested people find that learning resource better
 * I could imagine to make "contacting infos" like here separate (or on the talk page)?
 * At least a follow up on their status would be good. If they didn't reply in a timely manner, they probably have no interest:
 * Modelling/VDML
 * WordPress, Erkan Yilmaz 06:59, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * explanation why I stumbled on the contacting info: external links always look "suspicious" (though there are also valid reasons)
 * so, using those less or all concentrated on 1 page (e.g. a page called status report XYZ and there listed: for learning project A I contacted B because ..., and another column on the follow-up/responses), Erkan Yilmaz 07:07, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Erkan Yilmaz, thank you for your tips. I will keep them in mind when (re)creating new content. What project do you think has the most potential to (re)create again? WordPress? Maybe we can import the deleted content under my username? Is that possible, so I can change the content? Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 13:52, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, the mainpages of WordPress here and on beta (deleted) look currently too different. The page here is looking much better. Which learning projects you want to be restored depends mostly on chances that it helps the NL.WV longterm.
 * Perhaps even a page where a deletion discussion took place (Wikiversity:Te verwijderen pagina's) is better, because there we've already points listed what was seen as improvable. Erkan Yilmaz 15:32, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

btw: here's also some feedback from someone who was not yet involved in the beta happenings: Talk:Triggre, P.S. thx: User:Dave_Braunschweig, Erkan Yilmaz 16:12, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

SuccessFactors
"Maybe I should delete this page?": it's your choice, as I said above: you can also make a status report in a subpage of yours, e.g. User:Timboliu/status and add there all the contact requests, progress, ... Then the learning resource itself stays free out of suspicion. Erkan Yilmaz 09:35, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Erkan Yilmaz, I moved the content to the talk page. So other people can see that someone tried to ask for some screenshots. Is that okay? Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 12:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure, and:
 * for me everything as learning resource is OK. If I don't like something, I can use the edit-button.
 * But as you saw: there are different people, expectations on learning resources. Regarding that actions should be done, Erkan Yilmaz 13:07, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

Please stop creating pages without support
Above, there is concern about SuccessFactors. Looking at that, I see a link to HCM. I have an idea of what it is you want to do, but you are doing it by creating a mess, strewn out across mainspace. Please stop creating pages in mainspace until you have some support.

Rather, start a page in your user space for the overall topic you want to work on. It might be User:Timboliu/Business studies. Try to keep the number of pages you create to a minimum, but feel free to create subpages where there is significant separable content. One of the problems with your Beta work was that you created many pages, each with very little content, whereas a single page would have had some substantial content. Start thinking about how others will use resources that you create. I don't want to look at five pages to get five links to Wikipedia, but looking at one page might be useful!

At this point, I suggest that you pull in all or most of the pages you have created in mainspace, to your user space to create an overall-coherent resource.

When you have a coherent resource in your user space, then we will support you in moving it back to mainspace. Thanks for working on Wikiversity. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:06, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Timboliu, here is another user (D. B.) wanting that too: Talk:Business/Companies/Triggre:
 * "I think the design approach of many small pages is distracting to the user, and a smaller quantity of pages with more detail would provide a better learning experience", Erkan Yilmaz 15:25, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Erkan Yilmaz, thank you for this tip. This type of learning resulted on the Dutch wikiversity into a mass deletion of my pages. On the other hand, this is how I learn. I read about something or a hear an interesting question and instead of ignoring it, I have the urge to write this question down. Maybe this is not a best practice and not according to wikiversities policies. I, of course, can also put those questions in a personal space or subpage. I think that writing down a question can trigger other people to give an answer. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 06:42, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * "I, of course, can also put those questions in a personal space or subpage": well, then do that. From the feedback you got here (from at least 3 users), on your beta user page, and some pages of your projects here you see what kind of reaction this all caused. People can use the search or see in the recent changes and that also "can trigger other people to give an answer", Erkan Yilmaz 08:37, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Erkan Yilmaz, I will use my personal space more. I also decided to set up my own wiki so I will only focus on two learning projects: domains and business. Thanks for the feedback. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 11:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

I'd be okay with it in main space, but only under a single learning project. As I have asked Timboliu several times, please tell us what that one overall project is. I'd be happy to even use my bot to move the pages once we know what the overall project title is. If a single project title isn't possible, then user space might be preferred until the project is better organized. I can also use my bot to move content to user space if that would be helpful. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 17:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Dave Braunschweig, no problem to move them to a single learning project. I will do that. And regarding your question regarding the overall project. As a business consultant I like to know what's going on in companies so that I can understand trends in markets. This is why I moved page SuccessFactors to page Business Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 06:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

 * An example of problematic resource naming. OLPC what is that? I can guess from the page, but unless I happen to know the acronym or whatever it is, I won't know what the resource is about from the name. However if this is a subpage of Corporate Social Responsibility, that would be a clue. But better if the name is spelled out. This isn't Wikipedia! Now, I looked it up, it is One Laptop per Child. Which I'd heard of, but it didn't stick in memory that way. So I'm moving that resource. There are quite a few like this, I think. Don't worry, I don't expect you to fix things instantly! Indeed, you don't *have to* fix anything. But as you move toward clearly organization of your work, you will learn what you need to create a Dutch Wikiversity, powerfully. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 22:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 05:15, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Categories
You have created categories like

The magic word SUBPAGENAME does not appear to do anything within a category name. Generally, we want categories to appear as-they-are, not with some substitute name that could create confusion. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 00:19, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Football website?
Corporate social responsibility/Football portal The link at the bottom "tooling" links to Football website/tooling which has a backlink to Football website which is a redirect to CSR/football portal which is a redirect to Corporate social responsibility/Football portal. Now, I'll fix the double redir straightaway, I created that myself by not being careful. (Normally I check for incoming links when moving pages, sometimes I get sloppy.)

But what I notice now is that there is a resource to look at the web tools used by football websites. What does this have to do, even remotely, with Corporate social responsibility?

Websites are websites, football clubs are football clubs. They have lights in their locker rooms. What brand of light bulb do they use? Now, I can image researching that as some kind of student project, to teach people to make phone calls or visits and ask questions. It's not impossible.

But I can say what this looks like. It looks like you create resources out of whatever fact or material you come across. You collect a couple of facts, and make a resource. However, the chance that anyone will ever become interested in this is somewhere between the probability of the sky falling and never. Okay, an exaggeration, already. I think the football club web site tool research project goes in your user space, and it is delinked from the CSR pages. Okay?

(People use "what links here" to research things, and there should be some connection! or we waste their time. ) --Abd (discuss • contribs) 00:34, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

 * Actually, I haven't fixed the double redir I created, because there is a huge pile of them. Pages have been moved and removed without attending to double redirs. And it is not clear what the final structure should be, so I'm putting it off. I will provide guidance for you to fix it, instead of doing it myself. That's part of what they could have done on Beta, was give you the opportunity to clean up what you had created. Cleaning up 5000 pages, a lot of work, but the plus would have been that in the process, you could have saved a lot of content. For the future, we will attempt to establish those kinds of practices on Beta: learning by doing. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 00:40, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Resource case
There are two kinds of case used in resource names, traditionally.
 * Sentence case. First letter capitalized, none other. Only Proper nouns capitalized.
 * Title case. All Nouns capitalized. There is no clear standard that is universal.

Wikiversity prefers sentence case for resource names, but where a family of resources uses something else, we don't just barge in and change it.

However uncapitalized resource names are quite nonstandard, and confusing. In mainspace top level pages, the case of the first letter does not make a difference, i.e. Cold fusion and cold fusion point to the same page. But in subpages, case matters, i.e., Cold fusion/Recent sources obviously points to a different page than Cold fusion/recent sources. My strong opinion, then, is that sentence case should be used, and uncapitalized resource names should only be used with some special and clear need.

The software as configured does not allow the creation of uncapitalized names in mainspace. Why is unknown to me. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 01:19, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. I capitalized some of the pages. I will do a check on all my contributions. Cheers, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 12:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Moving pages

 * When you move a page, be sure to check for subpages and move them too.
 * See subpages of RuralWeb. (If you click on that, you will be taken to the moved location. At the top there will be a link to the original page, which is now a redirect, you can go to that page if you need, which sometimes we need to do for What links here.
 * To see all subpages of a page, use Special:PrefixIndex. Enter the page name in the box. From the display of, I see there are a *lot* of subpages, so instead of moving them yourself, you would ask a custodian. I'm going to move RuralWeb back, because the final destination of RuralWeb should be established before moving such a large page structure. You are talking about deleting it. I don't know that this is a good idea. If it is to be deleted, the whole page structure should go as well.
 * (Page moves cannot be done as one command, but undoing them, not. So that's why with a large structure, a custodian should be asked, and that's why ordinary users don't have the subpage move option.)
 * To complete instructions for moving pages, check What links here for the page. If any link to a page is a redirect, that redirect should be changed to point to the final destination, to eliminate a double redirect, which fails. When eliminating double redirects, if the intermediate redirect has no incoming links, it should be tagged for deletion. Whenever a redirect has no incoming links, it should probably be tagged; an exception is where there may be external web sites with links to the redirected page. That may be noted on Talk for the redirect, so that others don't notice it and tag it for deletion, or a custodian will see that there is a Talk page.
 * Subpage links continue to work when the entire page structure is moved. That is why we strongly recommend using subpage links instead of explicit, full links, which don't work when the page structure is moved. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 13:47, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Abd, I will look into this. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 11:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

The English word "backlog"
definition It seems you have using it just to mean "log," i.e, a record of what has been done. That can be confusing.

[As an example,] we have no backlog of pages to be speedy deleted here, it would show at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion. There is one page there, where the template that loads that category was added today. However, we have a log of all deletions at Special:Log/delete. Looking at that log may give you some appreciation for what custodians actually do, all the time, with few people noticing. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 18:47, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Abd, I'm not sure what you mean. Can't I use the term 'backlog' on my pages? For me a backlog is a 'an accumulation of tasks unperformed or materials not processed', things to do. Regards, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 05:44, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Of course you can use it. However, the word implies something wrong or a problem. It isn't used for a to-do list, which are often simply called "To-do." It isn't used as a log of actions taken. That is an action log. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 12:30, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Best Practices
Please stop creating new main-level content until other pages are cleaned up. What's missing in all of these creations is that the pages you are creating have widely varying meanings depending on context, and therefore cannot be main-level pages.

Domains means many different things. Most common is likely Internet domains, which has nothing to do with the Domains project you've created. Abd has asked you on the talk page to explain which meaning of domains that project refers to, but you haven't responded yet.

The same problem exists with Best practices. There are easily hundreds of different definitions of best practices, depending on the industry, the organization, the country of origin, etc., etc. What learning project is Best practices associated with?

Separately, please use internal sister links with Wikipedia. That is, Problem solving or Problem solving rather than the http URL.

Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 12:30, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Dave Braunschweig, sorry for the inconvenience. Is it possible to move page Domains and all of the subpages to Modelling? I will move page Best practices myself. This was not on purpose, I forget the slashes. I will also try to remember about the sister linking. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 13:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * There are enough subpages there that a sysop move is appropriate, without redirect creation. Thanks for requesting that. I have requested deletion for Best practices, you could have done that yourself. I added to the top of the page. Dave, we should create a Template:Move request for such. The template doc will explain that this is generally for page/subpage moves, to reduce work in cleanup after such. I was about to move Domains to Timboliu user space.... But he is now building a learning resource, and we can work on ameliorating harm from the low actual learning content. (I.e., on the top level page, links to subpages should state that there is no learning content there, if that's so, but that those pages are invitations to create such.)
 * Timboliu, you should do this, but if you don't know how, watch what I later do. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 14:21, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Dave, I know Timboliu well enough to know he won't freak out if I say that he is largely clueless about creating Wikiversity content.

 * He knows that I stand for Wikiversity to be a learning resource for anyone who cares to learn and who is willing to learn. Unless I act to handle the situation differently, Beta lost an opportunity to demonstrate how to help clueless users learn, by deleting over 5000 pages, the entire Dutch Wikiversity, where Timboliu had been the major (but not only) contributor, and by rejecting proposals to move his content to his user space, as he requested.

 * Essentially, Timboliu represents a learning opportunity for us, as to setting up procedures and ultimately policy about the organization of content. He's quite a good participant in that way, because he is not disruptive, other than through a certain level of cluelessness, he is actually cooperative when guided.

 * On Beta, he created no disruption, himself, over the mass deletion, though he was obviously distressed. On about any other project, having created such a huge pile of what was called "garbage" and "trash" and worse, he'd have been banned. He gave them no excuse for trying to ban him, at all. I did, of course. I do that kind of thing. So far, the Beta custodians have supported me, leaving the Dutch custodian, newly elected, and two of his "friends," in quite a huff, complaining about Beta and voting for it to be shut down on meta, because Beta won't block me for documenting what happened.

 * Having deleted the whole project, those few users have gone almost completely inactive, and only one of them remained active, blaming me for everybody else stopping work, though there had been zero interference with their work, but they had been clueless about what the "Dutch Wikiversity" was, mistaking the entire Beta project for the "Dutch Wikiversity." (In fact, when they started, members of Category:NL were about a third of the project, apparently. When they deleted almost the entire content of that category, one of them removed the category from one of the only pages left, apparently believing that it was enough that the page be in a subcategory of a Dutch category, a total misunderstanding of how Beta works. And when I attempted to point that out, I was attacked again. They consider advice "insulting." Great start for nl.wikiversity, eh?

 * What is being demonstrated there, quite clearly, is all the mistakes that Wikipedians will make in trying to create a Wikiversity to host what they see as "educational resources." Which is a very stiff and traditional idea of material intended to be used in a classroom. (It's an approach that is actually rejected in academia, in the educational field, it is known to frequently fail, educationally.)

 * They have commented that resources in mainspace should be "complete." So you can see how they detested what Timboliu did (the same there as here). One of them commented that it was much harder to create an educational resource (the way he thinks of it) than to create an encyclopedic article, which could be correct, though not universally true. They have set up a problem for themselves that they are not actually interested in solving, for the most part. They don't know how to use a wiki to foster the creation work by an entire community, that grows and improves with time and participation. They very possibly don't understand how Wikipedia was formed, with piles of unsourced stubs. It was only later that strong deletionism appeared, an inevitable result in a true encyclopedic project, though there could have been alternatives (such as w:WP:PWD or what I called "junkyard space" -- but user space could have been utilized just as easily, if junkyard *categories* were allowed, for example, with my Favorite Topic, Category:Junk/Cold fusion). In my generation, junkyards were fantastic places to go to find material that had been useless to someone, even the majority of people, but that was still useful for others. Gradually, they went out of business, and now people complain about recycling, when junkyards used to make money off of it.

 * So the opportunity is actually quite broad, to stand for Wikiversities everywhere, to continue to fill the gap in education represented by the domination of encyclopedic or "approved content" projects. That, in my view, is the Great White Hope of the WMF, because problems with other projects (such as violation of neutrality policy through domination of a POV faction that includes administrators on Wikipedia) can ultimately be neutrally addressed here, as academia generates analysis of topics that become sources for Wikipedia (Wikiversity will never be Reliable Source, but consensus here, based on what is in reliable source, could have an impact on Wikipedia once there is broad representation here). Attack on other projects and on users at other projects will continue to be discouraged. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:00, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, I'd be happy to do the move. But here's my proposal. Modelling itself should not be a main project. For many people, modeling (or the European modelling) involves a runway and nice clothes. The Modelling page says that it is part of the System development project. So, let's move Modelling under System development where it belongs, and then move Domains under Modelling. The other option would be to put both Modelling and Domains under System development. Either approach is okay with me. Then we will have a single learning project container that is consistent with your efforts. Let me know which of these options you prefer. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 16:35, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Hello Dave Braunschweig, thank you for the suggestions. I would prefer the second option. Placing them under system development. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 06:35, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

 * ✅ -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 17:14, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

repeat request for consultation before creating mainspace resources
Tim, again, today, you created The New Enterprise which is, my opinion, inappropriate for mainspace. The name, using capital letters, implies an existing specific organization, when this is just another learning circle focused on innovation. I have moved it, and, looking around, there is still plenty of stuff to clean up. If you want to create new resources without consulting first, please do it in your user space. I have moved the page to Learning communities/Business/New enterprise.

Continuing to create new learning circles without any other participation may not be such a great idea, either. It's easy to create a Wikiversity resource, including learning circles, but you seem to create them on a whim, instead of something more developed, and you don't then develop what you create, often, leading to the Beta mess.

I highly recommend spending some time working on existing resources, developing your skills at working with others here. We are in the process of organizing Wikiversity, and that project needs help; in order to help, you'd need to have an idea of what we mean by "organizing." Watch Recent Changes, see what's happening.

It's all new and we are working it out, but it's fairly clear what doesn't fit in mainspace top level. There is a ton of stuff that really doesn't fit there, as will become obvious as you gain familiarity with en.wikiversity. Pick a Random Page here, and it's usually out of place in some way. That is because of how Wikiversity developed, with ideals of high inclusiveness but the community never did the hard work of figuring out how to structure it, people did this and that, it was never complete, etc. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 16:05, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Abd, I forgot, again, to create the page in subpage. Sorry. Thanks for removing the page. Regarding your suggestion to work on existing resources; a lot of resources that are created are often not the stuff I'm interested in. But I will keep your suggestion to limit the number of learning projects in mind. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 07:38, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * If you only support stuff you are interested in, then you do not create community that would support you if Stuff Happens, as you saw on Beta. I'm talking about just being present to Wikiversity as a whole, widening your perspective. Consider that business advice and this our little business learning circle. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 12:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Abd, I will also look at learning projects to participate in. Today I saw for instance a page about innovation. And I'm also interested in web design. Thanks for the tip. Regards, Tim, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 15:05, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Applications
Hey, Timboliu! Sorry it's been a few days, I'm a busy person. You asked me my favorite kind of application, which would be virtual machines and interpreters. I know that's not the kind of applications you were looking for! All jokes aside I like GIMP and Notepad++. How do you plan on having this organized? Is there some kind of special format you want to go by? --I8086 (discuss • contribs) 14:31, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi I8086, I also like Notepad++! A format is a good idea. For WebMaker I added a 'category' and 'website' at the top of the page. I would like to suggest to do this on all te pages. Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 09:08, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Great! I'll use that page as a reference for the other pages. --I8086 (discuss • contribs) 22:15, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

a deletion request of yours
User:Timboliu/Applications/Overview/Password manager. Reason you gave: "content moved." You could make this simpler.
 * Don't copy page content to another page, generally. Move the page. That is then transparent in page history. (But if you are adding the content to an already-existing page, then maybe. There are also history merges that will preserve the full history. If you are the only editor, it doesn't usually matter.)
 * You may request any page, that only you edited, be deleted. "Author request" is a standard speedy deletion reason. "Author request, content copied elsewhere" is okay, but ... it provides no information that will be retained and publically readable. If you do want to retain that information, point to the page it was copied to!
 * When you move a page, a redirect is automatically created. Check for incoming links with "what links here." If there are none, then you would generally request the redirect be deleted, with reason "no incoming." Place that at the top, do not blank the redirect, and the deletion reason and redirect target, the way most of our custodians delete now, will show in the deletion log and it's possible to track this stuff. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 16:06, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Move learning project Applications from namespace to main space
See Request custodian action. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 19:58, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Question about Dutch
Hoi! Noticing that you live and work in the Netherlands, you most likely know Dutch. Now assuming you know Dutch, I have this question about it. Can I say for "What do we eat?" as "Wat doe wijn eten?", or do I have to do it "Wat eten we?"? Tot binnenkort Timboliu --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 02:17, 24 October 2015 (UTC) Hello Atcovi, in Dutch you don't say: Wat doen wij eten?, you say: Wat eten we? Out of curiosity, what is the reason you want to learn Duth? Regards, Tim Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 19:10, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * It's honestly a very nice language, and I might visit the Netherlands soon :) --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 21:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Atcovi, Ah okay. Nice! Hope you have a nice stay. If you have a question about the Netherlands, places to meet or questions about our language. Feel free to ask. I can also recommend https://www.duolingo.com/ if you want to learn the Dutch language. Regards, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 09:17, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you. --Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 11:42, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey
Hello! The Wikimedia Foundation is asking for your feedback in a survey. We want to know how well we are supporting your work on and off wiki, and how we can change or improve things in the future. The opinions you share will directly affect the current and future work of the Wikimedia Foundation. You have been randomly selected to take this survey as we would like to hear from your Wikimedia community. To say thank you for your time, we are giving away 20 Wikimedia T-shirts to randomly selected people who take the survey. The survey is available in various languages and will take between 20 and 40 minutes.

Take the survey now!

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Social Organizing
Hello. I added more to your recent suggestion, over here. I suggest that you could start Preliminary WikiJournal of Progressive Sociology or Preliminary WikiJournal of Community Organizing and Development. Maybe I will later. Thank you for your contribution. Michael Ten (discuss • contribs) 04:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks Michael Ten for your suggestions. Regards, Timboliu (discuss • contribs) 12:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

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User talk:Amkotas

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User talk:Sv1xv

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User:Sabrez 2029

Hi, Everyone This is Sabrez Alam. I am from Greater Noida. Currently I am residing in Pune. I am a Graduate.

My hobbies are playing cricket and Martial Arts.—

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User talk:Sabrez 2029

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Move your description of yourself to your user page
from Human Legacy Course/The Origins of Islam. That page is a resource page and would not normally have a user's self-description. If there is some purpose to that, it could be done. You could also improve the page and state that you are a participant in the project it's a part of. I suggest asking User talk:MrABlair23, who is running the Human Legacy Course. --Abd 21:40, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

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User talk:Valkian

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User talk:Two~enwikiversity

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Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Two. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Two~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 00:08, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
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User talk:Ekinard10

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Category:Motivation and emotion/Book

Search all chapters:

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Wikiversity:Delegable proxy/Table

This page serves as a method of registering members of this Wikiversity Assembly. See below for registration without naming a proxy.

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Journal of Sport and Exercise Studies

Welcome to the Journal of Sport and Exercise Studies, a biannual journal, publishing essays, research findings, lab reports, presentations, posters, and fact sheets... well, that's the plan anyway... we don't have anything to show for it yet.

Participants in Business, politics and sport are starting us off, giving us our first edition drawing from their essays and presentations. We're looking forward to receiving outlines from them before the 15 September 2011, and we're expecting to see some interesting, niche, and unusual topics around the theme of where business, politics and sport intersect.

All submissions are open peer reviewed, and the best will feature in our first edition, so stand by...

Current issues
If you are a group of people researching sport and exercise, why not identify a common topic and get the next issue up?

Past issues

 * /Business, Politics and Sport 2011/

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User:MrFidaAliEngr/Sundus

Sundus
Sundus is the name of a village which is located on the left bank (right bank when going upstream) of Indus river at Skardu Baltistan in Pakistan. It was formerly known as Tsongdus (a Balti word) meaning commercial center which suggests that the place might have served as trading hub for local people in ancient times. Presently Sundus is a thriving village with a population of about 1000 people. Hargisa (a medium size natural/fresh water course) starting from Ltingbu (a medium size water reservoir) flows through the length of Sundus and falls into Indus river in winter season while during summer Hargisa starts to flow from Sadpara Lake some 10 km away and above Ltingbu due to snow melt. In the past Hargisa would teem with various kinds of fish, water fowls and other wild lives. Now because of increasing/burgeoning urbanisation and pollution, these species are becoming rare there. First ever veterinary department in Baltistan was founded at Sundus in which my father Mr. Fida Muhammad Baigcho took part as a founding member and became a permanent employee and served his whole life there. First ever solar electricity generation unit in Baltistan was also founded there at Sundus, which I have personally visited several times. Sundus residents have water share from Sadpara lake for irrigation purposes. Sundus people have summer pasture lands adjacent to it and at Deosai plain adjacent to Sadpara village. In distant past Rgialu Stralbu Khar (palaces of then supernatural kings) were located in Sundus Biananaqpo which were destroyed in wars and floods before Chotus but during Hlatus.

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User talk:Gfoley4

Disruptive user
Thanks for addressing the editing of this user. As the individual doesn't seem keen to contribute constructively, and due to the limited availability of custodians, I've decided to place a block while I'm online. --Draicone (talk) 11:50, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
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Relaxation techniques

'''In this day and age there is a lot of stress. There is stress at work, in relationships, in families, at school and in the news. Too much stress is unhealthy and destroys the happiness among and within the people. There are many techniques, how to deal with stress. Important is a healthy, relaxed and positive lifestyle.'''

Wikipedia: ''A relaxation technique is any method or activity that helps a person to relax; to attain a state of increased calmness; or reduce levels of stress and anger. Relaxation techniques are often employed as one element of a wider stress management program and can decrease muscle tension, lower the blood pressure and slow heart and breath rates, among other health benefits.''

Practice the Five Principles of Health
The main principles of health are healthy diet, no drugs (alcohol, smoking, drugs, eating too much), regular exercise, adequate rest and positive thinking. We can easily integrate them into our everyday lives if we want it. These five principles of health give us a long, healthy and happy life. If we live by these principles, we can avoid most diseases. If we are sick, we become significantly faster healthy.

1. Eat healthy. A healthy diet consists of fruits, vegetables, cereals, milk, potatoes, pulses, etc. It is advised to eat little or no meat and much raw food (raw fruits and vegetables). Raw food gives the body lots of vitamins and minerals that protect him from disease.

2. Avoid drugs, smoking and alcohol. That causes many diseases and usually shorten your life significantly. Too many sweets (sugar, fat), lots of salt and lots of meat are also unfavorable. Do not over indulge in calories. Hear to your body. He knows what is good for you. Live wisely and stay healthy.

3. Do sports. Go walking, jogging, cycling, swimming once or twice a day (one half to one hour), to keep the body strong and healthy. It is also sufficient to train on an exercise bike (bicycle, treadmill) or to do dynamic yoga (creativ hatha yoga) for half an hour a day. Or to go for a walk on the weekend for an hour. It is important, that the body is well warmed through (practice until a slight sweating). It kills disease germs.

4. Relax sufficiently. Stress should always be put away by adequate recovery periods, yoga or meditation. For the inner happiness, it is important to live in the right proportion of personal activity (work) and rest (relaxation).

5. Think positive. Avoid negative thoughts. Keep your mind through conscious control predominantly positive. Positive thoughts lead to positive feelings and positive emotions have a positive effect on your body. Motivate yourself with positive phrases and ideas. Read positive books and have a positive task (hobby).

Overcome Fear, Sadness and Anger
In every life there is pain, loss, illness, loneliness and death. We have no claim to a long life still to be spared by fate. What is your pain today?

1. The problem: Describe briefly your situation and your problem. How exactly is your situation? What is the problem? Where is the center of the problem? 2. The Emotions: What are the feelings it in you? Fear, anger, addiction / desire, grief. What feeling is strongest? Where is the feeling sitting in your body? 3. The thoughts: What thoughts are connected with your feelings? Why are you sad, anxious, angry or longing? Count all your stressful thoughts down. (My thoughts are ...)

4. Thinking: What triggers your problem? What is the way out of your problem? What brings you to love, excitement, fulfillment, fortunately, satisfaction? Think about your problem for so long, until you find a solution. Think about different solutions. Collect all the information you need. 5. Implementation: Follow your positive thoughts. Fulfil your positive life plan. Avoid meaningless brooding. Now is the time to realize powerful. Go your way to victory and be content with you. What is now your positive thought? "My positive thought is .... (I am optimistic. I go my way with optimism.")"

Basic Relaxation Techniques
The most important relaxation techniques are Autogenic training, Progressive Muscle Relaxation, Massage, Meditation, Deep breathing, Yoga, Pilates, Tai chi, Qigong, Walking, Self control, and Humour. Some relaxation methods can also be used during other activities, for example, Autosuggestion, Mantras, Prayer, Classical Music and New Age music.

Shake Meditation
The Shake Meditation is a good way to quickly reduce stress and recharge with positive energy. We turn on a beautiful music, stand upright and move dynamically in the knees up and down. We can dance or go on the spot. The Shaking is a fast movement from the knees. The knees shake the body. The movement in the knees is small and fast.

1. Be angry. We shake all the stress of life out of us. We think the mantra, "anger". We transform all stress unto motion and liberate us as this.

2. Be sad. We solve our pent-up grief. We think the sentence: "I am sad because ...". We move all the sadness out of us. What makes you sad today? Think the reason several times as a mantra.

3. Circle the shoulders. We circle our shoulders. We move the shoulders as it is helpful for us. We solve the tension in the shoulders and the neck.

4. Turn the spine. We rotate into the spine left and right. We solve all the tension in the spine. The head also rotates to the sides.

5. Massage your body. We massage our body with a healing color. We are wrapped in a cloud of a healing energy. What healing color is good for you today? Think of the name as a mantra, "Yellow, Orange, Purple ...". Massage the healing color from head to toe in your body.

6. Earth you. We rub the healing color with the right and left foot on the floor. We paint a healing circle around us. When painting with our feet, we feel the earth. We think the name of the color as a mantra.

7. Go on shaking, '''move one hand and send a person a positive sentence. What do you want to say to this person? We repeat the phrase several times as a mantra. We send the whole world light and think, "May all people be happy. May the world be happy."'''

8. Move around a few minutes as you like. Feel what you need now?

---> For example the OSHO Dynamic Meditation or long version

Yoga Walking
Yoga Walking is enlightenment while walking. This is the ultimate kick! This is health training, stress reduction and inner happiness in one. Yoga Walking is your daily pilgrimage into the light. If you really pilgrimage, the pilgrimage will you turn into a goddess of happiness. Go first rather quickly (power walking) and at the end rather slowly (slow walking).

1. '''When walking stomp your anger into the ground. Let all the pent-up anger out. Think the mantra "Anger, Anger, Anger ..." What annoyed you today? Free yourself!'''

2.''' Solve then when walking your sadness. Feel in your sadness inside. What makes you sad today? Think several times the mantra: "I'm sad because ..."'''

3. Shoulders rotate. Solve the tension in your shoulders and your neck. In what way do you have to move the shoulders so that you achieve a good effect?

4. Spine rotation. Turn yourself when walking several times in the spine to the right and to the left. Also turn the head with.

5. Massage a healing color from head to foot in your body, and think the color name as a mantra. What color do you need now? "Orange, blue, gold, pink ..."

6. Concentrate when walking on the ground. Feel the earth. Think the mantra "Earth" and breathe a minute into your feet.

7. '''Move one hand and send a person a positive sentence. What do you want to say to him today? Think the phrase several times as a mantra. Send light to the world and think: "May all beings be happy. May the world be happy."'''

8. Imagine the numbers 1 to 20 in the head, chest, abdomen, legs, feet, and in the ground (beneath the feet). Solve so every day quickly and effectively the tensions in all major areas of the body.

9. '''Visualize a beautiful sun in the sky and clothe yourself with a golden ray of sunshine. Fill you with light and think many times the word "Light" as a mantra.'''

10. Stop all thoughts. Move five minutes when walking all the stress out of you, until your mind becomes calm.

11. Walk freely. Let all thoughts come and go as they want. Go the way you feel you want to do. Enjoy it. Observe how your mind becomes slowly positive. You are now back from your pilgrimage into the light. You did an important fact for your physical health and your mental well-being. Keep your happiness. The light will accompany you through your whole day.

12. '''Never give up. Your sense of life is to be happy, healthy and enlightened.'''

---> Videos The Right Walking Workout Techniques, Fats Domino & Ricky Nelson - I'm Walking (Music).

Computer Yoga

 * 1) Move your head and think the mantra "Om" in your head. Turn your head left and right. Forward and backward.
 * 2) Move your shoulders, so that all tensions resolve. Think "Om".
 * 3) Move your spine to the right and left side. The head also. Think "Om, Om, Om... " in your spine.
 * 4) Move your feet on the ground. Say "Om" in your belly, in your legs, in your feet and in the earth. Concentrate on the whole earth and think the mantra "Earth".
 * 5) Massage your body from head to feet. Hold your hands together over your head, rub the palms, visualize the sky above you and say the mantra "Heaven". Feel the light that comes down. Massage the light into your face, your eyes, your ears, your whole body and think "Light, Light..."
 * 6) Move your hand and send light to someone. Say "I send light to... May all people be happy. May all the world be happy."
 * 7) Rub your palms together. Think on the enlightened masters and say, "Om, all enlightened masters, please help me on my way." Now you can ask a question. Think about your life. What are your goals? What is your way? Hear the answer within you. What is your way of wisdom?
 * 8) Put your hands on your legs or your belly. Make your mind calm and think the mantra "Om" in your head, your thorax, your belly, your legs, feet, in the earth and in the whole cosmos. "Om Om Om Shanti Om Peace Om Peace Om Shanti Om Peace..."
 * 9) Stop your thinking for one minute. Simply sit there. Don't think. Relax.

---> Video: Computer Yoga (8 min.)

Advanced Computer Yoga

 * 1) Move your head and think the mantra "Om" in your head. Turn your head left and right. Forward and backward.
 * 2) Move your shoulders. Find the way that works best for you. Move forward, and then move another way round. Think "Om, Om, Om... " in your shoulders.
 * 3) Move your spine to the right and left side. Think "Om, Om, Om... " in your spine.
 * 4) Move your feet on the ground. Say "Om" in the earth. Concentrate on the whole earth and think the mantra "Om" in the earth.
 * 5) Massage your body from head to feet and think "Om, Om, Om... "
 * 6) Rub your eyes and face, and think "Om, Om, Om... "
 * 7) Place one hand on your stomach and practice bellows breathing. Think "Om" in your stomach. Breathe at a higher speed with the abdominal muscles and fill your body with conscious energy.
 * 8) Press with your thumb the right nostril, breath with the bellows breathing through the left nostril, and think "Om". Press with your index finger (middle finger, ring finger) the left nostril, breathe with the bellows breathing through the right nostril, and think "Om". Change several times between the left and right nostril back and forth until a feeling of inner peace and harmony is created.
 * 9) Get inner peace und rub your belly: "I take things as they are. I flow positive with my life."
 * 10) Put your hands together in the meditation pose in front of your belly. Move your thumbs. Visualize yourself as a Buddha (Shiva, Enlightened) and a Goddess of Love. Think or speak the mantra: "I am a Buddha (Shiva). I am a Goddess of Love (Mother of all beings)."
 * 11) Move your hand and send light to someone. Say "I send light to... (name). May all people be happy. May the world be happy."
 * 12) Rub your palms in front of your heart.. Think on the enlightened masters and say, "Om all enlightened masters. Om God. Please help me on my way."
 * 13) Put your hands on your legs or your belly. Make your mind calm and think the mantra "Om" in your head, your thorax, your belly, your legs, feet and in the earth. Think in the whole cosmos: "Om Shanti. Om Peace. Om Peace. Om Shanti. Om Peace ..."
 * 14) Stop your thinking for one minute. Simply sit there. Don't think. Relax.
 * 15) What is your positive sentence now? For example, "I am optimistic. I go my way with optimism."

---> Video: Advanced Computer Yoga (9 min.)

Computer Meditation
A guided meditation on the computer is a fast way of relaxation. Through simple yoga movements associated with positive sentences you can dissolve inner blockages and recharge your mind positive. Get peace, power, love and happiness in five minutes. Wikipedia: "Meditation was among the first relaxation techniques shown to have a measurable effect on stress reduction."

 * 1) Visualize yourself as a Buddha (Shiva) or Goddess of Love. Think or speak the mantra: "I am a  Buddha (Shiva). I am a Goddess of Love."
 * 2) Move a hand and send light (happiness, peace, love) to all beings: "I send light to ... (name). May all people be happy. May the world be a happy."
 * 3) Rub your palms in front of your heart. Connect yourself with the Enlightened (Saints) or God: "Om all enlightened Masters. Om inner wisdom. Please guide and help on my way."
 * 4) Get inner peace und rub your belly: "I take things as they are. I flow positive with my life."
 * 5) Put your hands on your legs or your belly. Calm your mind and speak (or think) one minute the mantra: "Om Shanti. Om Peace."
 * 6) Stop one minute every thought.
 * 7) Relax.
 * 8) Find a positive sentence: "My positive sentence is ... (Forward with love, peace, happiness and optimism.)"

 * The essence of spirituality is to build up inner strength, peace, love and happiness. Your inner energy can be awakened by positive visualizations in connection with mantras (positive statements, prayers).
 * Inner peace arises if you put your mind to rest. For this purpose we will first use the mantra "Om Shanti. Om Peace." Then we stop for a minute every thought. Finally, it is good to linger in the relaxation for some time. In this final phase, it unfolds its healing (harmonizing) effects.
 * On the spiritual path you're only successful if you always act in close contact with your personal truth and with a good feel for yourself. Practice the computer meditation therefore so that it fits for you personally and is good for you.

---> Video Computer Meditation (5 min.)

Videos

 * How To Avoid Workplace Stress
 * Managing Job Stress
 * Stress relief tips and exercises
 * Ten Tips for Stress Management
 * Two Minutes Relaxation Technique
 * One-Moment Meditation: "How to Meditate in a Moment"

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User:Amargeddon6

Hi,

I use the German Wikipedia mostly. If you want to find out more about me use my account there, please.

That is the translation of Google. (I know that is is not correct, but I havn't had the time to create an English user page yet.)

And please be lenient towards me if my English is not as good. I'm only in 9th grade. And because of this I have to cheat sometimes.

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Wikiversity:Delegable proxy

Please discuss this proposal on the attached Talk page.

What is Delegable Proxy?
Delegable Proxy, as proposed here, is a method for assessing participation in some discussion or process, to better estimate how the process represents a larger community than those who are able to directly participate. More deeply, delegable proxy creates an explicit network of users that, it is expected, may more rapidly negotiate consensus, with information flowing both up and down the proxy hierarchy, while keeping discussions relatively small.

How does it work?
Delegable Proxy works with two lists: a list of "members" of a community or process, and a list of assigned proxies. While some delegable proxy systems propose multiple proxies, it greatly complicates analysis and reduces accountability. The suggestion is that the user ("the client") name the other user ("the proxy") whom the user considers most likely to participate constructively in his or her absence. It is not necessary that the user and proxy agree on everything, and the proxy will not be "voting for" the "client," the one who named the proxy. Rather, this is simply used to estimate consensus better than without a system like this.

If a client's proxy is absent, but the proxy's proxy is present, then all are considered "present" in the expansion. That is, "present" directly or present indirectly. This representational chain isn't limited.

This proposal suggests that users name only one proxy. Proxies should generally be accepted to be considered effective, and naming a proxy should be considered permission for the proxy to directly communicate with the client. Accepting the proxy is giving permission for communication in the other direction. Thus delegable proxy sets up an explicit network. Communities already do this informally, but documenting it brings a number of benefits.

Anyone who wants to understand better how well a discussion represents the whole community of members, may use the member list and proxy table to "expand" participation. That is, they may find that so many users participated directly, but if we consider indirect participation, many more are "connected" with the process, through people they have trusted.

This is not "proxy voting." In processes where the goal is consensus, delegable proxy can provide a means of estimating broad consensus without requiring broad direct participation. Ideally, the goal remains 100% consensus. Delegable proxy provides a means of measuring how close we have come to that goal, and how likely a particular outcome might be to being confirmed if it should be discussed more widely. It is a tool for increasing efficiency without restricting participation. --Abd 18:21, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Does it change the way we make decisions?
Not unless we decide to set up some system that does this. That is not being proposed at this time. However, a Assembly is being proposed, to begin as an informal body, with open membership. Everyone who registers as a member of the Assembly is a member of the Assembly, by default. The Assembly, however, will follow more traditional rules for deliberative bodies and may decide upon its own rules. If there is serious disagreement, it is possible to have more than one Assembly. There is nothing wrong with this, because the Assembly is only an advisory body. If it can't settle on some piece of advice, it can present multiple reports, perhaps with delegable proxy expansion of the approvals on those reports. That can be done with multiple Assemblies, if needed.

So then who decides? It's the same as now. Those with the power to act decide, and they are responsible for what they decide. This could be an administrator deciding whether to block or unblock a user, it could be a policy decision of some kind, and if there is revert warring over a policy, an administrator may temporarily protect the policy page, but then there may need to be an edit under protection. An administrator may want advice from the community. The intepretation of that advice remains the responsibility of the administrator.

Further, sometimes we actually !vote, or what we do is close to voting. An example is decisions on promotion of probationary custodians to full custodians. Users decide on their own comments, and may wish advice before doing this. The delegable proxy network may assist users in finding consensus informally, in sharing information about possibilities and history. The Assembly is designed for deliberative process, which includes the collection and documentation of evidence, as well as analysis of it.

How does the Assembly make decisions?
The Assembly only decides, as such, on its own process. It's recommended that it value consensus, but use majority vote for preliminary decisions, where efficiency of decision is important. It may decide to elect a chairperson to handle such immediate decisions. Where possible, decisions should remain open, should circumstances and arguments develop further, and standard deliberative process allows for this. The Assembly makes its own rules. The possibility of multiple Assemblies keeps the Assembly honest. If the Assembly is run fairly, there is no reason to split up.

As to everything else, the Assembly makes reports, with recommendations. These reports are not binding, as such. However, if the reports show true consensus, simply disregarding them would probably be unwise. The Assembly, if it is operating with delegable proxy, has a means to directly reach every member, to recommend direct action through the network, and proxy expansion will, experience may show, allow reasonably accurate prediction of the outcome if direct action is necessary.

The Assembly is only described here as an application for Delegable proxy. Part of this initial project will create an Assembly, but the Assembly will make its own rules. If these are compatible with general Wikiversity process, then Assembly process may be on-wiki. If not, the Assembly may choose to move all or part of its process off-wiki. This, however, may limit its effectiveness. If it is open, then the on-wiki proxy designations may still be used to better understand Assembly process and decisions.

Network? Is this off-wiki?
Most Assembly functions may be on-wiki, but proxy-client relationships are personal, and not limited to on-wiki communication. If a proxy has many clients, the proxy may wish to set up a mailing list for his or her clients. Remember, the Assembly is not a decision-making body. The goal of the Assembly is to negotiate or discover consensus efficiently. That will happen if the communication is distributed into small conversations between people who communicate well with each other, and is then reassembled and negotiated by a few proxies representing as many members as possibly, and possibly discussion may go back and forth through a few cycles of this. That's with difficult choices.

If an Assembly decides to restrict participation in some way, it may decide to "meet" off-wiki, though any mechanism it chooses. Off-wiki assembly meetings, though, should be open and visible to all Assembly members, as shown by on-wiki sign-up. Individual proxy-client communications may be private.

It may seem complicated. It won't be. This is a trial of the concept, however, and participation is completely voluntary.

How do I participate?
To enroll as a member of the Assembly, add your user name to the Delegable proxy/Table. This does not obligate you to participate, but it will, initially, consent to receiving notices on your user talk page. We may add flags that would disallow notices for those who have named a proxy. If you are not willing to receive notices, and not willing to name a proxy either, then please don't sign up. You will still have ways in which you may participate, I'd assume. It will be up to the Assembly to set actual rules, what is in place now is really just an ad-hoc proposal. (With over twenty years of thinking and writing and wide discussion behind it.)

To name a proxy, add the proxy's username (as a link to the user page, displaying the name) to the Table. You may want to notify the person you name, so they know to consider accepting. Be sure to be logged in! To accept, be logged in and add a timestamp as shown.

There are other ways to handle proxy tables, this is a fairly simple one, and the simplicity means it is completely open and verifiable.

What about socks?
When delegable proxy was suggested on Wikipedia, and the first proxy assignment was made, the users were immediately checkusered, even though no usage had been proposed at all, it was just an experiment, labelled as such. Checkuser, of course, came up negative, and the two users had long independent histories, quite unrelated until they met and cooperated on this. The last thing a puppet master wants to do is to explicitly connect the accounts! Remember, this system isn't being used to make decisions, just recommendations or estimations of consensus. A few sock puppets will likely have no effect at all, particularly since the goal is consensus. Further, those who use the process could decide to analyze the data in other ways, they could consider, for example, age of accounts and number of edits. If a pile of new accounts has a radically different perspective than more established accounts, they might merit some attention. This is unlikely to be a real problem. It's just what some think of first.

What about proxy loops?
Sometimes people notice that proxy assignments can form loops. The smallest loop would be that A names B and B names A. If A or B always participate, there is no problem with a loop. If they don't, it's easy to notice that and suggest that one or both of them name someone who is more likely to participate. While full participation, directly or indirectly, is obviously desirable in some way, it's not necessary. If I name a proxy and my proxy never participates, however, I'd certainly consider naming someone else! And so should my proxy!

How are proxy expansions accomplished?
People have developed software for this, but it's easy, for relatively small proxy tables, to do it with a spreadsheet. What's needed is the member list, the proxy table, and a list of participants, with positions (if that's relevant). Software solutions have often been proposed, including secret ballot voting, but this always, then, devolves to trusting whoever runs the software. Open proxy tables may be analyzed by software, if we need that, but the results can be verified by anyone.

There is a secret ballot method, Asset voting, that can result in close to 100% representation in an elected Assembly, with little fuss. It can be considered as a first layer of secret proxy assignments in a Delegable Proxy system.

May I invite someone to name me as a proxy?
You may, but be careful. It could be tacky. At this point, if you are interested in helping get this off the ground, name a proxy and invite the person to accept it, and, as well, invite them to name a proxy, not specifying yourself. We may establish a category for users who wish to make themselves available as proxies, and that would be a more neutral way to offer your service. Being a proxy is a service, it's a job, though one where you may adjust your level of commitment, and you can "pass it on" by naming a proxy yourself. Accepting a proxy is giving consent to direct communication.

Imagine a large DP system. You have accepted a thousand proxies. Do you really want to engage in direct communication with a thousand people? Good luck! If it works, fine! In discussions of Delegable Proxy elsewhere, it's been proposed to limit the number of proxies a person may accept. An argument against that is that the practicality of accepting many proxies varies with the nature of the communications traffic it will create, and that any restriction would be artificial, not necessarily matching the needs and capabilities of each person. In a delegable proxy system, the real goal is a communications network, so each "node" in that network may be allowed to adjust the traffic they receive. If you are a proxy and become overwhelmed, suggest to some of your clients that they name someone else, such as someone else who has named you. Spread it out.

The big safeguard in the system proposed here is that proxies don't transfer real power. They are only used to weigh advice and assess the representativeness of participation. Actual decisions are made elsewhere (but perhaps by the same people!). So if someone solicits every new user and somehow gets them to name him or her, but no actual "influence" and "trust" are established, and similarly if someone creates a thousand sock puppets (bold!), not only will this be visible, but it will be useless. Nobody who matters will be fooled. (But Wikiversity may, if the community chooses, establish rules about canvassing for proxies, as with any other kind of canvassing. If any user sees problematic canvassing, they may protest and custodians may act.)

The conditions militating against accepting many direct proxies do not apply to indirect proxies. That, indeed, is the whole point of delegable proxy vs direct-only proxy. It's indefinitely scalable. We might be lucky to see a few dozen editors on Wikiversity participate in this, but the system could handle, in fact, the entire population of the Earth. At least it seems that way! Obviously, nobody has tried. As a proxy, you control your traffic by controlling how many proxies you accept, and whom you accept. If someone gives you more traffic than you want, you can suggest that, if they trust you (and you don't want a proxy from someone who doesn't trust you, it will be a pain in the neck), they could name So-and-So, or could pick any one of your clients, the one with whom they have the best rapport, and who is willing to accept. Or anyone else.

How to invite participation in this system
You may transclude an invitation page on a user talk page, you could use Please do not do this massively unless the community has approved. Unless you know the user, please don't invite newcomers on registration or the first few edits. The template includes a section header, so if you use "add topic" don't give it a new topic name, accept the edit without one.

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 Hello Rfoster, and welcome to Wikiversity! If you need help, feel free to visit my talk page, or contact us and ask questions. After you leave a comment on a talk page, remember to sign and date; it helps everyone follow the threads of the discussion. The signature icon in the edit window makes it simple. All users are expected to abide by our Privacy policy, Civility policy, and the Terms of Use while at Wikiversity.

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User talk:Jbetzzall

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