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History and Strategy of Competitive Scrabble

Welcome to History and Strategy of Competitive Scrabble. This interdisciplinary course is designed to introduce the student to the basic strategies of competitive Scrabble in the context of probability theory and to provide a background in the social climate in which the game developed. Please note that the name Scrabble is a trademark of Hasbro, Inc. in the US and Canada and of J. W. Spear & Sons PLC elsewhere.

Course Summary
In History and Strategy of Competitive Scrabble you will have an opportunity to learn the ins and outs of playing America’s favorite word game in the context of the games economic history and the development of the Scrabble playing community. No prior Scrabble playing experience is necessary. During the first part of the course there will be focus on readings and discussion with others on these topics. Throughout the course there are progressive skill development puzzles including board position analysis (like “black checkmates in three” stuff in chess), vocabulary building puzzles, anagramming practice and other puzzles like those found in The Official Scrabble Puzzle Book. Students should use the talk pages of course sessions to discuss readings. Actually playing scrabble practice learned skills is required and can be done electronically as discussed below.

This interdisciplinary course covers aspects of history, economics, sociology, mathematics, and psychology. It begins by tracing the game’s development from invention in 1931 to its current commercial form. You will be looking at how the rights to the game made their way from inventor to corporation and discussing this transfer in the context of other American inventors and how much recognition and profit they received. You will also take a sociological look at development of competitive Scrabble as separate from the “living room game” and the self-organized community and structure that developed around the competitive game.

After you have covered the historical and social aspects of the game you will move on to strategy and tactics. Sessions include tricks for learning new words and some key lists you will memorize by the end of the course (like the 101 acceptable two letter words), anagramming skills, and other techniques to increase your personal ability. Competitive tactics topics will include the proper use of nonwords (“phoneys”) by psychological analysis of your opponent, how to maximize your chances of bingoing through balancing your rack, how to play the probability numbers game to accurately predict the likelihood your drawing specific tiles or achieving specific outcomes with your plays, and how to control the pace of the game.

Course Outline

 * Course Outline

Required

 * Everything Scrabble, by Joe Edley and John D. Williams Jr. 2001, Pocket Books. ISBN 0671042181.

 * The Official Tournament Rules

Suggested Reading

 * Word Freak, by Stefan Fatsis. 2001, Penguin. ISBN 0618015841.

 * The Big Book of Scrabblegrams. 2005, Sterling. ISBN 1402728530.

 * The Official Scrabble Puzzle Book, by Joe Edley. 1997, Pocket Books. ISBN 0671569007.

 * Zyzzyva, software for querying and studying words

 * Quackle, a strong computer opponent

Electronic Play
Finding a right place to play electronically can be difficult. There are many options with many different features. Being able to create buddy lists of other users and having automatic scoring is fairly standard. The place you choose should have ways to set time limits. There should be a way to review your old games play by play. Standard competitive word sources should be used. (The sites listed below include all these features and allow for play both with the standard North American word list and the British/international standard.)
 * Internet Scrabble Club (ISC)
 * After downloading the multi-platform standalone Java program WordBiz you can connect to their game server. The ISC has a large international community of players of all ability levels from beginner to expert. It is the site favored by the world's top competitive players. It has a feature that allows you to observe the games of high rated players. It has 24 hour help available through the in-program chat interface. ISC allows you to familiarize yourself with the notation system for recording Scrabble games. If you pay a small membership fee you can get access to more features like computer analysis of games. The downside to ISC program is that it has largely text based. It has an interface similiar to IRC. If you aren't familiar with text based interfaces you will probably be better off at the next site.
 * Scrabulous
 * This is a web-based and graphics heavy Java applet-based Scrabble site. The interface for this site is easier to navigate than ISC which is much more text based. It has 24 hour help available through the site's chat interface, by email, and by telephone. It has a large number of users, however it doesn't have the same high level of play that ISC does. Scrabulous has now introduced the ability for people to play phoney words in challenge games.

Projects

 * using Scrabble to learn math
 * using scrabble to learn vocabulary and spelling


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My homepage on Appropedia - a wiki for appropriate and sustainable tech, which is my main focus.

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User talk:Javier Carro

Hi Javier - good to see you again :-). We've finally got this going here, but I hope we can build on the work done on Wikibooks to craft it into this new direction for the project. Your contributions will be very valued. Cormaggio 09:37, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias
Thanks for the link. I will check it out. J.Steinbock 23:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Sure, recordings sound great! ¿Eres un hablante nativo? - J.Steinbock 23:37, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * That's a great idea! As for me, I am from the United States, but am fluent in Spanish, English, and French. -- J.Steinbock 23:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikiversity Reports
"My link to Wikiversity reports doesn't work anymore. Did you close the website?" <-- Please see Wikiversity Reports. I had been using a 60 day trial .Mac account that is no longer active. All of the podcasts are now online at Internet Archive and can be reached from ourmedia. If you know of any existing links to the old website, please let me know where they are so I can update them. --JWSchmidt 01:53, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Computational linguistics
I've expanded Topic:Computational linguistics a bit, tying it to Topic:Translation and Topic:Multilingual Studies. Please have a look when you get the time. CQ 06:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Quiz project
Thank you for joining the quiz project. Most of the discussion is over at MediaWiki.org at the moment - there's a (new?) link to the discussion on the quiz project page. Feel welcome to join us. McCormack 06:19, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your message over on my talk page. Yes, it's true the discussion so far has been rather technical, as some of us are helping Lrbabe steer the development of the extension. However the quiz extension is now developed so well that I think we can also start talking about educational issues and start creating examples. Particularly now that we have the typed response and gapfills, areas such as linguistics and languages are well-served by the quiz extension. McCormack 12:31, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Language learning project
You peeked into IRC about some kind of language project with WCR or VoIP; I'm pinging you here. Let me know what you are thinking. I put this out there for the French project, but we've had no takers yet. Historybuff 22:11, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Release 0.9.3 of mobile phone quiz client (Occleve)
Hi! Release 0.9.3 of Occleve (a mobile phone quiz program) is now talking to the wikiversity wiki. Please see Quiz/Mobile phone software for details... and please let me know what you think. --Joe Gittings 08:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

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User:Seven-League Bot

Hello ; I'm guillom's bot. In fairy tales, seven-league boots are magic boots which allow the wearer to take great strides —seven leagues each step— resulting in great speed (this is precisely what a bot is asked).

If I may help you doing a systematic or boring task, please let me know.

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Wikiversity talk:Administrator Creation and Behavioral Criteria Guidelines and Policy

Another proposal
This project is very young at the moment - I don't think we want to spend too much time codifying all the nuances a custodian would encounter now. Maybe a little bit later is better? --HappyCamper 10:36, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe so too. Custodianship, especially the second to last paragraph, should be all that's needed for now. -- sebmol ? 10:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Exactly, which is precisely why I am staying away from those pages at the moment :-) However, I worry about this strategy - I don't want something institutionalized which would be detrimental to this project in the long term. Maybe I should put it on my watchlist. --HappyCamper 11:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

To complement the above
To complement the above, I have another idea which might be worthwhile looking into. It seems apparent that most of the participants on this project are fluent with editing in Wikis, and I suspect that everyone who is arriving here is quite well meaning.

There is not enough material for us to codify what exactly this project is about, let alone how it should be run behind the scenes.

In the spirit of "learning by doing", why not give the sysop bit away liberally during Wikiversity's infancy? As I understand it, this project is in an evaluationary period of 6 months. Here is my idea:

 * 1) Grant the sysop bit liberally to those who seem to know what they are doing
 * 2) Those accepting the sysop bit do this, know that it can be revoked at any time, specifically in 6 months.
 * 3) After the 6 month period, if this project is still healthy and well, we do a massive "Request for adminship" by the community, say, 2 or 3 candidates a week, in (arbitrarily) alphabetical order.
 * 4) We designate someone trusted by the community at present to use their discretion in giving out the sysop bit. It seems like there is one bureaucrat around, so maybe that would be the person to do this if they are interested.
 * 5) We also don't advertise this too much. Those given the sysop bit should not be craving for any sort of "power" or "authority". We are not interested in creating administrators who can be perceived to be part of a "cabal" or whatnot.

Assuming it would be easy to desysop everyone in 6 months (I'm sure it would not be too difficult to have a Steward do this, there are a few which are easily accessible on :en) there is good reason to do this. The reason is that we need to establish a core group of administrators who exemplify the ideals that we are striving for. I know, this sounds very ambiguous at the moment, but Wikis encourage a lot of observational and passive learning, in addition to active learning. I'd like to see good administrative skills passed down from the beginning. --HappyCamper 11:34, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Votes

 * -- sebmol ? 12:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * This should be reworked, condensed into an FAQ, and added to Custodianship. -- sebmol ? 12:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)


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Wikiversity:Bots

Robots or bots are semi-automatic or automatic processes that interact with Wikiversity as though they were a human editor. They are used to manage systematic or boring tasks. Please read the guidelines below before designing and implementing any bot on Wikiversity.

Summary
A bot is something that can do repetitive tasks in a predictable fashion, and it can be done in such a way as to be healthy for the community.

Expectations
The operation of a bot requires approval. Any user can submit a request at Bots/Status to obtain bot status, which prevents cluttering recent changes. Bot status is given by Bureaucrats about seven days after the request has been made, provided there has been no objection to the request by another user. The decision lies with the bureaucrats.

The bot flag may be removed after 2 or more years of bot inactivity. The bot operator will be notified on their talk page and the flag will be re-granted if the operator expresses an interest in resuming bot activity.

The burden of proof is on the bot-maker to demonstrate that the bot:
 * is harmless
 * is useful
 * is not a server hog
 * has been approved

Bot operators must:
 * 1) create a separate account for bot operation.
 * 2) indicate on their bot's user page:
 * 3) * which program / language is used. (Pywikipedia, Ruby, JavaScript...)
 * 4) * who the owner is.
 * 5) discuss with other Wikiversity editors before running their bot. Any bot request has to reach consensus to be fulfilled.
 * 6) log in with their own user account when talking to other users.

Bot operators should:
 * choose a name containing the word "bot" so that editors realize they are dealing with an automaton.

Bot operators may:
 * run their bot without the bot status only during its request for approval and if asked so by another editor to check how the bot works. When testing, bot operators must delay 60 seconds between edits.

Bot operators are encouraged to:
 * Release their bot's source code.
 * Program their bot to stop editing if someone leaves a message on its talk page. This can be checked by looking for the "You have new messages..." banner in the HTML for the edit form.
 * Program their bot to stop editing if they detect that they have logged out. This can be checked by looking for bot's name in the HTML for the edit form. If the bot is not logged in, then the bot's name won't be listed in the HTML. Bots running anonymously may be blocked.

Edit rate guidelines
Bots running without a bot flag should edit at intervals of over 1 minute. Once they have been authorised and appropriately flagged, they should operate at an absolute minimum interval of 5 seconds (12 edits per minute). Bots should try to avoid running during the busiest hours, as they rapidly use server resources that should be reserved for human readers and editors. During these hours, they should operate at intervals of 20 seconds (3 edits per minute) to conserve resources.

Bots' editing speeds can be automatically adjusted based on server load (slave database server lag) by appending an extra parameter to the query string of each requested URL; see mw:Manual:Maxlag parameter.

Bot functionalities
Although a bot can be assigned a sysop flag, these requests are discouraged. The Curator flag may be assigned to a bot operated by a Custodian.

Currently flagged bots
Notes:

The manually updated list above may not be current. Check bots group user list which is complete and see contribs for each bot.

The last update was by: --MGA73 (discuss • contribs) 08:06, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The bot status log contains older entries of granting bot status. Newer entries will appear in the user rights log.

Request help from a bot
Do you have a task that would benefit from a bot's help? Post a request at Colloquium.

Requests for bot status
Are you interested in helping Wikiversity by operating a bot? Please see Bots/Status

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cs:Wikiverzita:Bot/Žádosti fr:Wikiversité:Bot/Statut it:Wikiversità:Bot/Autorizzazioni pt:Wikiversidade:Robôs/Pedidos de aprovação This page allows bot operators to ask for approval to use a bot on the English-language Wikiversity.

Please read Wikiversity policy about bots first.

Bureaucrats are able to give and remove bot status using the Special:UserRights feature. Request are usually handled after about 7-10 days, to allow time for comments and questions from the community. If you do not receive a timely response to your request, feel free to leave a message on the talk page of a Bureaucrat.

Older status requests are /Archive/d.

The wikicode below is a suggestion for formating a bot request:

BotName

 * Bot name:
 * Bot operator:
 * Automatic or manually assisted:
 * Purpose of the bot:
 * Edit period(s):
 * Programming language(s) (and API) used:
 * Other projects that are already using this bot:
 * Additional information:

Requests for bot status

Add new bot requests at the bottom

Arbota

 * Bot name:
 * Bot operator:
 * Automatic or manually assisted: halfautomatic (manually triggered)
 * Purpose of the bot: at the moment: helping me with generating pages of translated exercises from German wikiversity. (The Wikidatalinks I do via quickstatements on toolforge).
 * Edit period(s): once in a while
 * Programming language(s) (and API) used:Pywikibot running on jupiter.
 * Other projects that are already using this bot: German wikiversity. I started the bot some weeks ago.
 * Additional information: I only use it for help within 'my pages' and always control the result.

Bocardodarapti (discuss • contribs) 06:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

WikiJournalBot
As with listeriabot, it only edits pages between the templates and, see sandbox tests User:Octfx/Volume_4_Issue_1. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 23:10, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Bot name:
 * Bot operator: &
 * Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
 * Purpose of the bot: Formatting up lists of wikijournal articles based on sparql queries
 * Edit period(s): 2 week test, (if no problems, indefinitely)
 * Programming language(s) (and API) used:
 * Languages = PHP
 * API = https://www.wikidata.org/w/api.php
 * Repository = octfx/WikiJournalBot
 * Other projects that are already using this bot: none
 * Additional information: Having failed to get in contact with to update listeriabot, I asked to put together a stripped-down version that is specialised for the wikijournal tasks we need. In particular, automating the lists:
 * Currently: WikiJournal_of_Medicine, WikiJournal_of_Science, WikiJournal_of_Humanities
 * Eventually: WikiJournal_User_Group/Potential_upcoming_articles
 * Eventually: WikiJournal_User_Group/Editors

 * Can someone create the WikiJournalBot user account and perform an edit under that account? So far, it doesn't appear to exist. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:07, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * @Dave Braunschweig Ah yes, rather easier to apply permissions to an existing account. Done. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 22:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I followed the previous approach, bot for a week, presuming that was the intent. Let us know how testing goes. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 22:41, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I've created an OAuth consumer at meta and ran the bot through toolforge. Successful edits were made to the Sandbox and two of my user pages here and here. --Octfx (discuss • contribs) 09:51, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with running tests as you have recently been doing and I highly encourage you to continue. Please note: "When testing, bot operators must delay 60 seconds between edits." (see: WV:BOT) If you need assistance with this Dave or I can provide help with how to 'throttle' the edit rate to comply with this guideline. This makes it easier for custodians and 'crats to review the edits as they occur. Thank you so much for your contributions to improving Wikiversity, it is greatly appreciated. --mikeu talk 22:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Forgot to ping for input. --mikeu talk 22:47, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
 * no problem, I’ll set the bot back to one edit per minute. The current delay was set while the bot flag was temporarily active, I forgot to change it back! —-Octfx (discuss • contribs) 06:49, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, we very much appreciate your contributions to Wikiversity. Thank you for improving our site and let us know if you need additional tools to improve the quality of our website. --mikeu talk 07:56, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't know the inner workings of this bot, but it often shuffles the order of publications and made them out of publishing sequence  OhanaUnited  Talk page  16:52, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

 * @OhanaUnited You need to notify the bot owner or leave a message the bot's talk page. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 20:55, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

WorkmarketBot
Note for transparency: I have also assigned it IP block exempt status during these tests since it was flagged by Tks4Fish. I think this is reasonable, but please let me know if that's against proccedure to IP block exempt a both that I myself am applying permission for. T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 11:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Bot name:
 * Bot operator: &
 * Automatic or manually assisted: Automatic
 * Purpose of the bot: Syncronising a list of tasks between WikiJournal_User_Group/Technical_editors/tasks and the external software Workmarket. Essentially performing two types of edit:
 * Adding new rows to the table on that page (if item was added in Workmarket)
 * Adding an "Assignment ID" to a column (if item added on-wiki and imported to workmarket)
 * Edit period(s): indefinitely
 * Programming language(s) (and API) used:
 * APIs = https://en.wikiversity.org/w/api.php and https://employer-api.workmarket.com
 * language and repo = Java
 * Other projects that are already using this bot: none
 * Additional information: We've done a few test edits to check its functionality on a sandbox. It would only be editing a single wiki page, so its activities are also very contained.

 * Bot permission added. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 21:51, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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Please see Nick1915 on it.wiki or Nick1915 on meta

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User talk:HappyCamper

Welcome to my talk page! Feel free to post anywhere below the archives. 1 2 3

Used the protocol CC+ (The Beatles)
When uses this protocol, any material becomes free for change of its parameters. Please, learn more: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CCPlus ! (The preceding unsigned comment was added by Julius2012 (talk • contribs) .)
 * No. You didn't create that material. You can't release that work under the Creative Commons license! --HappyCamper 19:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

RE:Welcome!
Now that you mention it.... what is the difference between wikibooks and this, I mean i found tutorials in wikibooks, shouldn't they be here? I apologize for any grammar mistakes.. also.. ROFL! --Sistemx 19:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I think I know the difference between wikibooks and wikiversity but I know plenty of wikibook articles that should be here instead of there... Can I massive transfer the articles?! lol jk. --Sistemx 19:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * for example there are tutorials in wikibooks about rubik's cube. (there are also at wikipedia!) PD: Yes I like rubik's cube!! (I olny know 3x3x3 :/ but im learning...) --Sistemx 19:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!, is still got some doubts.... Especifically, What should I submitt here that I shouldn't submitt in wikibooks? and vice-versa.

Thanks
Thank you, Happy Camper, for your greetings! I think I am one of those "incremental" page editors. Ususally, I start finding my typos seconds after pushhing the "save page" button. (I have lost several hours of work before I learned how to navigate back from the "preview" screen.) Ray Calvin Baker 00:23, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip on using the "watch this page" button. I'm sure that that feature will help me a lot to find other contributers for articles of mutual interest.

I noticed that you have gotten a note from another Rubik's Cube fan. I'd like to say "hello!". How should one (I, me) go about consolidating material on a given topic?

I'm also exploring the dialects of the "BASIC" language family. There seems to be a fair-sized community for this topic, also. I found the "QB64" site on Wikipedia, and am delighted with the compiler I downloaded.

In all of my years of computer programming, what I have missed most is helpful tips from others who were just too shy to mention something. What is "obvious" to you may easily be something I have not even heard of yet. "Be BOLD!"

Ray Calvin Baker 23:06, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

You asked me if the book on Rubik's Cube is complete. Yes, at least ninety-five per cent complete. It contains text diagrams to help explain the notation I created.

An attentive, industrious reader should be able to solve a standard Cube by using the material presented. I wrote the material for upper primary/middle school level students. Chapter Ten is a brief summary of the methods I use myself. Using the "cheat sheet" from this chapter, I can usually solve a scrambled Cube in less than ten minutes (certainly no world speed record!). I need to use the methods I describe to find how to solve a sub-group which is not visible on a standard Cube (This will be Chapter Eleven). Chapter Twelve is intended as a place for the reader to include his/her own "improvements" on my crude methods.

I intend to make a complete revision of the work ASAP. Obviously, some of the techniques I used did not fare well when "Wikimedia-fied". My diagrams were especially sensitive to misinterpretation by the upload processes I used. Ray Calvin Baker 23:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Scrapbook
Just wondering.. where is your scrapbook? --Sistemx LET'S TALK! 17:02, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the W/B :)
I'm looking around, and most of the names I don't recognize -- but it's good to be back, and I thank you for the re-welcome. Historybuff 07:25, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Did I do this correctly?
I do not know where to go or who I should ask for help. Since you're a custodian, I though that maybe you could help me. I created Topic:Comics Code Authority and I am not sure if I did correctly. I am also not sure what pages are the most important to read for new editors. Joe Chill 18:35, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. Joe Chill 21:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Welcome
Thanks for the welcoming message. I hope I have enough time to actually develop something. See you around! Fabianhjr 15:17, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of website
Noticed you deleted this page (which I totally support), should I go ahead and delete the RfD discussion I had started earlier today? If you haven't seen it and are willing to act unilaterally, there are like 4 other similarly useless and spammy pages promoting the same website, all noted there on the RfD. MyNameWasTaken 20:24, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikiversity vs. Wikipedia
I read the FAQ, but I'm still a bit confused, what is the difference between a Wikiversity and a Wikipedia page, at least for the humanities? Wikipedia can explain a topic pretty well, and is easy to learn from, how should Wikiversity differ? I started writing ufology but it kept seeming like I'm just writing a Wikipedia page that probably has already been written. Btw, I just found out there is already a page @ talk:UFO research, what should I do about that since I already started writing not knowing there was a similar (but misnamed?) page? Nikki 04:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

licensing issue, help
hi HappyCamper, could you please take a look at the licensing issue at User_talk:Egm4313.s12, and let me know the fact about the dual licensing. below is the template that i have been using for several years:

which was based on the template MultiLicenseWithCC-BySA-Any.

then a bot changed my licensing template to the template below:

when i began to use the bot's template, the licensing issue came up as documented in User_talk:Egm4313.s12.

thanks. Egm6322.s12 15:58, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hey dude most of the information I put on all those page I made were from what we are learning in school.

Only when I felt lazy I copyed and pasted otherwise I just used what we learned in school. Also what is a Transwiki importersAlgamicagrat (talk) 15:22, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi there
... and thanks for the welcome. I want to get started by using a subpage to my user page for an e-learning course first: it'll be a way to teach a group of postgraduate researchers the wiki way and who knows, perhaps some of them find their way back here. Cheers from Berlin --MSB 21:23, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Custodianship
Hello HappyCamper, I've been a probationary custodian for a while now. Is it necessary or appropriate to request full custodianship? My mentor, Draicone, hasn't been active for a couple of months. He told me to consider choosing a new mentor. What would you advise? Kind regards, Mathonius (talk) 19:06, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

 * I've replied on my talk page. Regards, Mathonius (talk) 09:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi from Miquaz
Hello happy camper!! Thanks for the help!! I like exclamation marks!! Um, can you help me find some computer science courses and some people who are interested in computer science? I want to know how to discuss computer science with them! You tell me on my [| talk page]. If the link doesn't work just search User: Miquaz. Thanks!! See you around!!

--Miquaz (talk) 13:53, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Miquaz

Hello
My name is Druabb, I need help. I want to be a Custodian for Wikiversity and I need a mentor. HappyCamper, can you please answer the following questions and record the answers on my page. Example: 1. Go to Wikiversity Something like that.

Here are my questions:

1. How can I become a custodian

2. Can you mentor me

3. How to successfully became a mentor

Request permission to create my user page
Hi! My name is Jonathan Holland. I edit Wikipedia anonymously under a different username, but would like to participate in Wikiversity under the username "Maknongan". Somewhat unfortunately, I seem to be unable to create my user page to offer more information about myself. Is there any possibility that you could help with this? Thanks, Jonathan Holland aka Maknongan (discuss • contribs) 13:14, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

How we will see unregistered users
Hi!

You get this message because you are an admin on a Wikimedia wiki.

When someone edits a Wikimedia wiki without being logged in today, we show their IP address. As you may already know, we will not be able to do this in the future. This is a decision by the Wikimedia Foundation Legal department, because norms and regulations for privacy online have changed.

Instead of the IP we will show a masked identity. You as an admin will still be able to access the IP. There will also be a new user right for those who need to see the full IPs of unregistered users to fight vandalism, harassment and spam without being admins. Patrollers will also see part of the IP even without this user right. We are also working on better tools to help.

If you have not seen it before, you can read more on Meta. If you want to make sure you don’t miss technical changes on the Wikimedia wikis, you can subscribe to the weekly technical newsletter.

We have two suggested ways this identity could work. We would appreciate your feedback on which way you think would work best for you and your wiki, now and in the future. You can let us know on the talk page. You can write in your language. The suggestions were posted in October and we will decide after 17 January.

Thank you. /Johan (WMF)

18:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Activity Review
Wikiversity has adopted a policy that expects users with administrative rights to be active participants and to regularly use those rights (at least five edits and five actions within the last 12 months). It appears that you are no longer active at Wikiversity and do not currently have a need for administrative rights.

If you would prefer to retain your administrative role, please rejoin us with your contributions and support. If your account remains inactive, we will need to request that stewards remove your administrative rights. Let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for your previous efforts on our behalf.

Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 13:54, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

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User talk:Dario vet

Custodianship
Hi Dario vet, I saw your request for custodianship, but you'll first need someone to nominate to mentor you as a custodian, and accept that person to mentor you (see Custodianship for details). Unfortunately, I can't commit to mentoring anyone myself as I'm too busy right now - sorry :-( Cormaggio 14:26, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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User:HappyCamper

Hi there, and welcome to Wikiversity! I am a custodian here. This means I have extra tools on Wikiversity to help with cleanup tasks. Please feel free to leave me a message - you can do this by visiting my talk page! :-)

Today is Monday, July 29, 2024; it is now (UTC/GMT).

My toolbox, and my scrapbook

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User:SlimVirgin

Hi, I'm an editor and administrator on the English Wikipedia.

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User talk:SlimVirgin

Please leave messages here.

Welcome
Hi (Sarah, isn't it?) - glad to see you made it over to Wikiversity. If I'm not mistaken, you were involved in some early discussions about the project, so it's good to have an "old-timer" here - if you'll pardon the expression (though I'm sure you're used to it). See you 'round! Cormaggio 16:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

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User:Daniel M. Roberts

Daniel Roberts is a freshman at Princeton University. He is interested in mathematics, physics, and foreign language.

Qualifications

 * Native speaker of American English
 * Moderate proficiency in translation of Latin
 * Non-native fluency in Brazilian Portuguese
 * Moderate proficiency in German
 * Thorough understanding of some topics in mathematics including but not limited to high-school math through multivariate calculus
 * Thorough understanding of introductory classical physics

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Introduction to German

Welcome to Introduction to German, part of Foreign Language Learning and Language and Literature school. The aim of this beginner level course is to tell you about the basics of German, no prior knowledge is required. However it helps if you are good at English (used in this guide!) and know some grammar, like the difference between "plural" and "singular", you can move ahead. You can also join the German Stream if you so desire. :)

First steps
Congratulations! To continue reading this page you just made the first step to learn German. So you can now say the classical phrase: "Ich lerne Deutsch" (rough Anglicized pronunciation: ish lerne Doich).

Now you have two things to master: Vocabulary and Grammar

The trick is that you can't focus just on one of these. You may think that vocabulary is enough. If you know the words, then you can say and write anything you want... but it is not that true. You also have to learn how to say and write it! Fortunately for you there is a good opportunity to practice this right here at Wikiversity.

Vocabulary
All material concerning the German vocabulary is concentrated at German vocabulary and its subpages. Please help develop it further, possible in cooperation with Wikibooks using the well developed German textbook.

Alphabet and Pronunciation

 * Please see The Alphabet (at Wikibooks).

Grammar
See German grammar.

Typing German
See Typing German characters into a computer.

🇨🇴 For a PC, you have quick access by typing the following: ß - alt+225 ä - alt+132 ö - alt+148 ü - alt+129 Ä - alt+142 Ö - alt+153 Ü - alt+154

On a Mac, the commands are as follows: ß - ⌥ + s ä - ⌥ + u, a ö - ⌥ + u, o ü - ⌥ + u, u

Note: the umlaut can be assigned to any vowel by first holding '⌥' and pressing the 'u' key. It will then wait for a vowel key to be pressed.

Assignments
To help you get acquainted with the written language, use this subpage to get in contact with German speaking Wikiversity participants.

Related materials

 * German language on Wikipedia
 * German, an open-ended textbook at Wikibooks

Learning materials and learning projects can be used by multiple departments. Cooperate with other departments that use the same learning resource.

Learning materials and learning projects are located in the main Wikiversity namespace. Simply make a link to the name of the lesson (lessons are independent pages in the main namespace) and start writing!

Learning Resources

 * A podcast for students Slow German is spoken clearly and slowly. More information at www.slowgerman.com (not cost free)
 * An online learning tool Duolingo helps you practice vocabulary and grammar. More information at www.duolingo.com (free)

Active participants

 * RedAugust
 * Exorcist_bob
 * MjVP13
 * Daniel M. Roberts
 * HappyCamper
 * --Smithgrrl 02:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC) Ich spreche Deutsch nicht besonders gut, aber möchte gerne helfen wenn ich kann!
 * Kaiti Ich werde wenn ich kann helfen!
 * Enlil Ninlil 04:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
 * -Atcovi (Talk - Contribs) 18:51, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

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User talk:Daniel M. Roberts

Hello and welcome to Wikiversity!

Here are some tips to help you get started:
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Good luck! -- sebmol ? 17:50, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey there!
Welcome aboard! Saw your edits to Introduction to differentiation. Excellent :-) --HappyCamper 23:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, keep adding the material as you see fit :-) We can build in subpages and stuff later. I'm not sure if it is necessary to introduce compound interest as a motivator for e - the compound interest is more a particular interpretation of the limit $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\left(1+\frac{1}{n}\right)^n$$. --HappyCamper 02:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Daniel, Oh, one more thing that I noticed as I added a comment to the front page. Try to place some exercises throughout any materials you author. Unless the student gets to participate in the text, their brain starts to glaze over and they may think they understand the article without actually being able to produce any results using the facts they were supposed to have learned from the article. You could either scatter the exercises throughout the text (ie., turn some of your statements into exercises), or have a section after the text with related exercises. This is akin to the teacher requiring student participation in a class while it is in session in order to make sure they're actually paying attention and not just mindlessly copying notes. :-) Ron 03:07, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me with learning German sometime. Like in a pen pal way ya know? Thespark 18:42, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

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Portal talk:Philosophy

This is growing fast! Are you going to import the work already done on wikibooks's wikiversity? Do we need to get an admin to do it? --Cfp 18:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * There is a giant list on Import, but the admins are overwelmed at the moment--Rayc 21:11, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Importing I can't do the importing work (I'm not an admin), but I figured I can start on new content. Koavf 20:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This is LockeShocke from wp, I've started adding content to a select number of courses. Glad to see this had had some recent activity!!199.44.86.185 21:11, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I would consider Chinese philosophy under 4202 to be classified as spiritual rather than religious.

School:Philosophy
School:Philosophy now contains the material that was imported from Wikibooks. Topic:Philosophy should be renamed as a specialized department of School:Philosophy such as Topic:Philosophy of Science. --JWSchmidt 02:06, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

environmental ethics/philosphy
I think it would be interesting to have a course on environmental philosophy. This new branch within the discipline is quite fascinating. Ideas: Leopolds ans Whites antropocentric environmental ethics; shallow and deep ecology; ecofeminism; social ethics; consequentialists vs non-consequentialists; deontoligical views; green movement ethics; land ethics; expansionnist vs ecological worldviews ....

Just ideas for now for anyone interested, i don't really have time to do it myself right now.

Merge?
Merge the school and topic of philosophy? Emesee 19:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Links to Wikipedia deleted from old portal page
(These would make a good foundation for a future learning project, and because I'm still a new user I'll save them here.)

Philosophy topics
Note: Please use descriptive names for Wikiversity pages, not numbers (see: Naming conventions).
 * Philosophy 1000 - Introduction to Philosophy
 * Philosophy 1100 - Introduction to Ethics
 * Philosophy 2000 - Introduction to Logic
 * Philosophy 2100 - Introduction to Metaphysics
 * Philosophy 2200 - Introduction to Aesthetics
 * Philosophy 2300 - Eastern Philosophy
 * Philosophy 2400 - Western Philosophy
 * Philosophy 2500 - History of Philosophy
 * Philosophy 2600 - Symbolic Logic
 * Philosophy 2700 - Philosophy of Religion
 * Philosophy 2800 - Philosophy of Science
 * Philosophy 2900 - Philosophy of Language and Linguistics
 * Philosophy 3000 - Ontology
 * Philosophy 3100 - Mind
 * Philosophy 3200 - Personhood and Identity
 * Philosophy 3300 - Introduction to Metaphysics
 * Philosophy 3400 - Introduction to Epistemology
 * Philosophy 3500 - The State and Law
 * Philosophy 3600 - History of philosophy series:
 * Philosophy 3610 - Pre-Socratic and Ancient
 * Philosophy 3620 - Medieval
 * Philosophy 3630 - Early modern and Enlightenment
 * Philosophy 3640 - 19th-century
 * Philosophy 3650 - 20th-century
 * Philosophy 3660 - Contemporary
 * Philosophy 3700 - Paradoxes
 * Philosophy 3800 - God and Theology
 * Philosophy 3900 - Contemporary Ethical Issues
 * Philosophy 4000 - Individual studies series:
 * Philosophy 4000 - Socrates and Plato
 * Philosophy 4001 - Aristotle
 * Philosophy 4002 - Augustine of Hippo
 * Philosophy 4003 - Anicius Manlius Severinus Boethius
 * Philosophy 4004 - Thomas Aquinas
 * Philosophy 4005 - René Descartes
 * Philosophy 4006 - David Hume
 * Philosophy 4007 - Immanuel Kant
 * Philosophy 4008 - John Locke
 * Philosophy 4009 - Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel
 * Philosophy 4010 - John Stuart Mill
 * Philosophy 4011 - Søren Kierkegaard
 * Philosophy 4012 - Friedrich Nietzsche
 * Philosophy 4013 - John Dewey
 * Philosophy 4014 - Bertrand Russell
 * Philosophy 4015 - Ludwig Wittgenstein
 * Philosophy 4016 - Jean-Paul Sartre
 * Philosophy 4100 - Philosophical schools series:
 * Philosophy 4101 - Empiricism
 * Philosophy 4102 - Existentialism
 * Philosophy 4103 - Platonism
 * Philosophy 4104 - Postmodernism (includes Critical theory, deconstructivism, and Poststructuralism)
 * Philosophy 4105 - Rationalism
 * Philosophy 4106 - Skepticism
 * Philosophy 4107 - Utilitarianism and Consequentialism
 * Philosophy 4200 - Religious philosophy series:
 * Philosophy 4201 - Buddhist
 * Philosophy 4202 - Chinese (Confucian and Taoist)
 * Philosophy 4203 - Christian
 * Philosophy 4204 - Indian (including Hindu, Jain, and Sikh)
 * Philosophy 4005 - Islamic
 * Philosophy 4006 - Jewish
 * Philosophy 4300 - Political Ideologies
 * Philosophy 4400 - Free Will

Thanks, --Luke Isham (discuss • contribs) 10:36, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I arbitrarily came up with this in... August 2006 (a few weeks after we launched). A lot has changed since then, clearly. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * You've done some good work ten years ago gathering up those links, you could turn them into a course outline. --Luke Isham (discuss • contribs) 23:41, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * someday *sigh. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:39, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:MichaelFrey

Hello and welcome to Wikiversity!

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Good luck! -- sebmol ? 18:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Spread
Maybe try asking at w:Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language? HTH. --HappyCamper 22:57, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Bot
Hi Michael, I've left a note for Sebmol to have a look at it - as a techno-fool, I don't know what I'm meant to look for in a bot! Cormaggio talk 20:29, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Deletions
I've noticed that you've placed a lot of resources up for deletions some of which haven't contained anything - however are you aware that you can use the template which is the welcome and expand template, this is what some users do on this site rather than proposing them for deletions - if you view Celtic law it'll show that particular template on the page. DarkMage 17:23, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikiversity:Bots
There is a current discussion about changes to the Bots policy. As a bot operator we would welcome your input at Wikiversity_talk:Bots. --mikeu talk 15:12, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello, we've noticed that the bot that you operate has been inactive since 2008. The bot flag has been temporarily removed for inactivity per changes in the Bots policy. The flag will restored if we notice that the bot has resumed productive activity, or if you request restoration from a bureaucrat. The community does not consider it a big deal to re-grant this right to a trusted contributor. Thank you for the bot contributions that you have made in the past, and we hope that you will consider becoming active again. --mikeu talk 00:49, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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User talk:Robchurch

To contact me regarding this project, please [ leave me a message]. To contact me regarding development, please send me an email or leave a message over at MediaWiki.org.'''

Welcome
Welcome to Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 18:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I doubt I'll be doing much, content-wise, but I thought it might be advisable to claim this username as mine here too, and to establish a presence as most developers tend to do. robchurch | talk 19:05, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

search function
Do you know any tricks for getting the search function to work? All we get is "There was a problem with the wiki search. This is probably temporary; try again in a few moments, or you can search the wiki through an external search service" --JWSchmidt 19:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Immediate thoughts are that it's quite possible there's no search index for this project yet, never mind it being outdated. When this happens, it's quite likely that the extension which communicates with the Lucene search servers is programmed to respond with this error... robchurch | talk 19:42, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

units and measurement
I'm not really happy with that table; it breaks up the flow of the 'lesson'. I deliberately wrote out the information in prose so that it remained in a conversational style - as lectures should be. This isn't wikipedia. I actually don't know how to revert a page, but if you'd mind changing it back...Sojourner001 12:15, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. Sorry to be a pain, but I like my articles 'just so' ^__^ Sojourner001 12:35, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Quizzes
Hi Rob, and thanks for your interest so far in Wikiversity. I think it'd be great if you developed the quiz functionality - I haven't looked at that page you linked from the Colloquium, but it sounds like a good idea to go with. Wikiversity will probably need plenty of code development - it would be nice if you could keep up with requests (or, at least, be a link to bounce ideas off). We may, at some point, have to compile an 'inventory of needs' to pass on to developers with puppy-dog eyes.. ;-) Cormaggio 12:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

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User:Robchurch

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User:Cfp

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User talk:Chun-hian

Hello and welcome to Wikiversity!

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Good luck! -- sebmol ? 19:41, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

page deletions
Thanks for your efforts to keep Wikiversity free of useless pages. Please take a look at this new template: Template:Main welcome. --JWSchmidt 19:10, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

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User talk:Badgerpatrol~enwikiversity

Welcome to Wikiversity. --JWSchmidt 20:55, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Your account will be renamed
Hello,

The developer team at Wikimedia is making some changes to how accounts work, as part of our on-going efforts to provide new and better tools for our users like cross-wiki notifications. These changes will mean you have the same account name everywhere. This will let us give you new features that will help you edit and discuss better, and allow more flexible user permissions for tools. One of the side-effects of this is that user accounts will now have to be unique across all 900 Wikimedia wikis. See the announcement for more information.

Unfortunately, your account clashes with another account also called Badgerpatrol. To make sure that both of you can use all Wikimedia projects in future, we have reserved the name Badgerpatrol~enwikiversity that only you will have. If you like it, you don't have to do anything. If you do not like it, you can pick out a different name.

Your account will still work as before, and you will be credited for all your edits made so far, but you will have to use the new account name when you log in.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

Yours, Keegan Peterzell Community Liaison, Wikimedia Foundation 23:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Renamed
 This account has been renamed as part of single-user login finalisation. If you own this account you can |log in using your previous username and password for more information. If you do not like this account's new name, you can choose your own using this form after logging in: . -- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 06:03, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Wikiversity:Featured

This page coordinates and informs about featured content on Wikiversity.

What is featured content?
Featured content is considered, for a variety of reasons, to present Wikiversity at its best to the general public. Featured content may show exemplary course design, a novel, usable and fully functioning approach to wiki-based education, or educational resources that have simply reached a high state of completion or had very large amounts of work done on them.

See also: the Picture of the Day system

How is featured content displayed to the public?
There are a number of ways featured content is used.

 * 1) Featured content on Wikiversity is regularly rotated in the "today's featured project" on the main page.
 * 2) A wider range of material from this page, including content which is proposed-for but not-yet featured, is included in a special pseudo-random-page system accessed from the left-hand navigation panel on every page of Wikiversity - see Random project.
 * 3) Many portals also have featured content. This page can be used for finding resources which are suitable for featuring on specific portals. Portals tend to set the bar for featured content somewhat lower, so portals may also feature content not listed here.

An important difference between featured content on Wikiversity and featured content on much larger projects is that on Wikiversity, featured content is rotated. On very large projects, featured content is selected by special interest groups several weeks or months in advance, and is always new. On Wikiversity, to save time, and as a result of the lower level of content production, featured content is rotated on a daily basis. Featured content therefore reappears on the main page at regular intervals.

Who selects featured content?
Selecting and maintaining a featured content system requires a time-consuming long-term commitment and a wide knowledge of Wikiversity content. Few people have ever been prepared to invest time in this. On larger projects, featured content is usually selected by democratic vote. However democratic systems only work when there is a large enough body of well-informed participants in a featured content project. The Wikiversity system is unfortunately rather autocratic at the current time, but any user can propose content (just add it below) and comment on other suggestions. Please inform yourself widely about featured content before commenting if you can.

There is no formal system of criteria at the current time, but you can discuss proposals for criteria on the talk page. On the whole, it would be desirable if featured content could represent as many different subjects and educational levels as possible.

Other ways of drawing attention to educational resources
The following ideas have been suggested at some time or other:
 * Events
 * Add an "events" entry to the left-hand navigation panel, which links to an events page, which in turn lists upcoming events (e.g. meetings, synchronous discussions). This would require someone prepared to regularly maintain the page.
 * Notify events on Mediawiki:sitenotice (requires custodian) or in the main page news box (registered users).
 * Projects and resources in need of development
 * These are "development drives". A development drives page could be created and maintained, which randomly rotates project links in the "development" box on the main page. This would require someone prepared to regularly maintain the page.
 * Projects and resources in need of participants
 * This idea relates to educational resources which are "ready" for the public, but which may have very little content because the content is supposed to come from active community participation. These projects might be candidates for featured status once a community has created a substantial body of content, but at the current time these resources are more sketches or skeletons of ideas for participatory learning. The idea of drawing attention to these is to attract participants who will "develop" the resource, but "development" here is not meant in the usual sense of "development" (as in "development drive") because development (production) and use (consumption) merge. A "needs-participants" page could be created and maintained, which randomly rotates project links in the "community" box on the main page. This would require someone prepared to regularly maintain the page.
 * One could also classify a participation drive as an "event"

Current featured content
Category:Featured resources

 * Reference: Archive of discussions of successful featured content
 * Tour: Featured content
 * Admin: Template:Featured Content/Nav, Template:FOTD, Template:FOTD/CALC, Template:cool, Template:hot
 * Number of pages in featured resources: c. 1500-1600 (about 17%-18% of Wikiversity content)
 * Number of featured resources: 18
 * Average size of featured resources: 83-88 pages

Shortlisted
''This is an administrative section. It contains content which will shortly be added to featured content. The content listed here is currently being cleaned up and checked prior to featuring. Please feel welcome to help with the polishing process. When material here has been processed, it is archived at Archive of discussions of successful featured content.''

New proposals for featured content

 * 1) If you propose something, please give a very brief reason/description (max 1 line) and sign your name. Thanks!
 * 2) Others: please add your comments below the proposal and sign your name too. Thanks!

Please help identify well developed or complete science resources to feature during Year of Science 2016. --mikeu talk 20:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

IT Fundamentals
IT Fundamentals is an excellent resource and very useful. --mikeu talk 23:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Review of IT Fundamentals:

The course is aimed at the IT Fundamentals certification. At the outset IT is not a specialty. My initial impression from looking at the course materials starting at Wikiversity is that they are smart, smooth, and well-presented. There are 15 lessons. If there are any weaknesses with the course, I would expect them to be with a dependency on Wikipedia. Sampling, I looked at

1. Hardware and chose something I haven't heard of or read before: from Wikipedia "In computing, a computer bus operating with double data rate (DDR) transfers data on both the rising and falling edges of the clock signal.[1][page needed] This is also known as double pumped, dual-pumped, and double transition." From Google scholar I found using "double date rate" and "the rising and falling edges of the clock signal": "For example, a double date rate (DDR) technique may be used, in which both the rising and falling edges of the clock signal are used to latch data." This informs me that on the certification exam something analogous, similar, or exactly phrased would be accepted as the correct answer to "What is DDR?"

4. Virtualization: from Wikipedia on Cloud computing "SureCloud computing, also on-demand computing, is a kind of Internet-based computing that provides shared processing resources and data to computers and other devices on demand." From Google scholar I found using "cloud computing" and "shared processing resources and data": "Cloud computing, also on-demand computing, is a kind of Internet-based computing that provides shared processing resources and data to computers and other devices on demand." The statement is referenced [25][24] to [R. Meireles, M. Boban, P. Steenkiste, O. Tonguz, and J. Barros, “Experimental study on the impact of vehicular obstructions in vanets,” in Vehicular Networking Conference (VNC), 2010 IEEE, pp. 338–345, IEEE, 2010.] and [Md Whaiduzzaman, Mehdi Sookhak, Abdullah Gani, Rajkumar Buyya, “A survey on vehicular cloud computing” , Journal of Network and Computer Applications.] respectively. Again, I would expect this answer would be successful on the certification exam.

9. Commands and Scripting: from Wikipedia "Path (computing)": "A path, the general form of the name of a file or directory, specifies a unique location in a file system." I found on Google Scholar using "specifies a unique location in a file system" and "path": "A “file path” specifies a unique location in a file system. A path points to a file system location by following the directory tree hierarchy expressed in a string of characters in which path components, separated by a delimiting character, represent each directory."

12. Security: from Wikipedia "Hardening (computing)": "In computing, hardening is usually the process of securing a system by reducing its surface of vulnerability, which is larger when a system performs more functions; in principle a single-function system is more secure than a multipurpose one." Using "reducing its surface of vulnerability" and "hardening" on Google Scholar I found "Operating system hardening is the process of securing an operating system by reducing its surface of vulnerability."

While this is by no means a thorough examination of the merits of the course and its potential to students, it does demonstrate that the creator has double checked on Wikipedia to make sure the correct and necessary information is being conveyed to students through perhaps the weakest link. Although the course is relatively new to Wikiversity, I endorse its being rated as a Featured resource. --Marshallsumter (discuss • contribs) 02:16, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Motivation and emotion
Motivation and emotion is one of the longest run and most developed projects on wikiversity. Very high quality. --mikeu talk 23:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and added Motivation and emotion as a featured course: Featured_content/20 and bumped the FOTD counter: Template:FOTD/CALC. I've tried adding it the featured content tour, but isn't showing: Template:Featured Content/Nav. Seems to be something to with being at the end? -- Jtneill - Talk - c 04:54, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Effective defense and ISIL
Effective defense and ISIL is a quality resource that thoroughly cites the sources used to present a neutral point of view on a topic currently in the news. --mikeu talk 20:26, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

The Crafting Freedom Project
The Crafting Freedom Project is an excellent resource in the public humanities. It tells the stories of how historic events have an impact on the everyday lives of people who are caught up in events beyond their control. --mikeu talk 21:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Egyptian Verbal System (and its Vocalization)
Egyptian Verbal System (and its Vocalization) is one of the more fascinating projects that I've stumbled upon. It is surely a topic of rather idiosyncratic interest, but it is very well done. Resources on this subject would be difficult to find elsewhere. --mikeu talk 22:15, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

Places to go hunting for featured content

 * Category:Completed resources
 * Completed courses list
 * Google search of wikiversity.org
 * Special:MostRevisions (NB: this only has data up to September 2007, so of limited current use).
 * Most edited pages (possibly far more out of date even than the above).
 * Participants - some of the most active participants are engaged in content development, so keep an eye on what they are producing.

Most desired content
This section lists content which is most strongly desired by Wikiversity participants, but which falls far short of featured status. If you wish to create content which quickly becomes featured, then this is a good place to look for projects to work on.

French stream
French stream

 * French. Compare French stream (people who have explicitly stated a desire to learn French) and Category:French. This is a case where demand clearly outstrips supply. Just by providing a coherent set of French learning language resources, we would cater for visitors far better. --McCormack 09:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Spanish
Spanish

 * Spanish. Ditto. Compare Spanish/Registration with Spanish. --McCormack 09:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Its my dream to find a wiki way to help in the area:(--Juan 09:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Content which was proposed and rejected
Items placed here are periodically archived at /Archive/Delisted.

Related resources

 * Educational Media Awareness Campaign - includes the Picture of The Day system.

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Wikiversity talk:Ignore all rules

Votes

 * Mirwin 03:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Messedrocker 06:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * --Gau 02:31, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Robert Horning 06:00, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Cormaggio 08:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * --HappyCamper 10:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- sebmol ? 12:09, 20 August 2006 (UTC) Doesn't need to be a policy.
 * TimNelson 13:37, 27 August 2006 (UTC) Great idea -- it already exists at everything2.com
 * Blast Too much grief on WP; we don't need it here. 11:46 13 March 2007 (UTC)
 * --Sir James Paul 05:38, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Comments

 * This is neither a policy nor a guideline on Wikipedia, with very good reason! This text is not acceptable here as one of those. Awolf002 01:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * This "rule" was allegedly a joke at Wikipedia a year after project originated. It caused a great deal of problems and undermined the credibility of knowledgeable and regular contributors with newcomers as they tried to welcome newcomers and coach them on community practices.   A much better policy would be to point out problems to the project hiearchy and then undertake either changing the problematic areas for the better via due process, negotiating or coordinating an exemption, or ignore the problem (after reporting it) until someone else takes responsibility for fixing it.  In a large diverse project (such as we intend to become) policies and guidelines are necessary so people can know how to proceed efficiently.  Saddling ourselves with a contradictory rule of no rules so an underinformed newcomer feels comfortable with deleting entire sections of the database on a whim or trolling wiklars as they try to be helpful to others while simultaneously doing serious critical work is very counter productive.  We could establish a large sandbox area and let newcomers know there are no rules there in the sandbox .... except this is also quite untrue.  We will expect civil behavior in the sandbox; so it is destructive to imply newcomers can kick sand in each others faces in the sandbox and then demand arbitration for the unnecessary strife and conflict this creates when affected people get to the regular project space; as we ardently wish them to for everyone's benefit.  Mirwin 03:31, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * One of the most important pages, but wasn't designed to be policy (it's neither policy nor guideline on Wikipedia, but it's listed as an important page). Messedrocker 06:05, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * If nobody objects, I will change the text according to the above sentiment. Awolf002 00:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Awolf002 02:34, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * This advice exists because it encourages the creation of new content, something that is severely needed at Wikiversity at the moment. If we scare away our best potential contributors with loads of seemingly arcane rules right from the beginning, we're going to start with the second string. Furthermore, we're not even really sure of a lot of our policies right now, and like it says, mistakes can be fixed. Oh, and for the record, "wiklars" is a horrible word. --Gau 02:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, but don't we need to be promoting good practice in the generation of good content? I don't think anything here is to restrictive, and we encourage people to be bold. (Also agree that "wiklars" isn't a particularly good name.) Cormaggio 08:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't want to see this institutionalized here on Wikiversity. It should be apparent and self evident that policies do not codify everything - one simply needs to write that we need to encourage mature and reasonable actions and thinking. Smart Wikipedians would recognize how to do this carefully without it being explicitly written. --HappyCamper 10:38, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * "Smart Wikipedians would recognize how to do this carefully without it being explicitly written" <-- I agree with this, but I do not think this means that "ignore all rules" should not be written down. Any rule (written or unwritten) can sometimes work against the purpose of the wiki. When that happens, it can be best for the wiki that wiki participants ignore the rule and get on with the business of the wiki. "caused a great deal of problems" <-- Yes, ignoring rules can cause problems. Following rules can cause problems. People look at the problems and select a course that is best for the project. Sometimes people make the wrong choice. Its called being human. It is better to make some mistakes (anything can be reversed in a wiki) than have everyone mindlessly following rules without continually thinking about the impact of those rules on project. When you write down "ignore all rules" it liberates wiki participants acts as a reminder to give human thoughtfulness and judgment a chance to compete with slavish devotion to rules. "wasn't designed to be policy" <-- I really do not care if it is called a guideline, a policy, a stated principle, a safety valve, a friendly reminder, common sense, or uncommon sense. "better policy would be to point out problems" <-- if you want to write a policy called "point out problems", feel free. But remember, working on the wiki project's mission does not require policy and should not be inhibited by rules. "not acceptable here" <-- If this is true, then maybe we should have a policy that says "we slavishly apply rules even when doing so damages the project". "Be bold" <-- I'd rather add "ignore all rules" as a corollary to a policy called "Be cautious". --JWSchmidt 14:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

title: Wikiversity talk:Ignore all rules


text:
Wikiversity talk:Username

We should tailor an appropriate version of Wikipedia's User Name policy immediately and place it here for further modification, review, and ratification.

Votes

 * Mirwin 12:32, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * digital_metalk 01:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Rayc 05:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Robert Horning 05:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * but fix the page. Messedrocker 18:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- sebmol ? 12:12, 20 August 2006 (UTC) Doesn't need to be a policy.
 * --Dario vet 12:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * TimNelson 13:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC) ...but dones't it need a until it's approved?
 * Yorktown1776 15:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Its a good username policy.--Sir James Paul 05:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Ready for guideline now CQ 13:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Not even ready to be a guideline. -- dark lama  16:36, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Comments

 * There is a lot of distilled practical wisdom in Wikipedia's user name policy developed over a period of years. Our user name issues are likely to be almost identical, at least I cannot think of any major deviations from Wikipedia's environment and needs.  By adopting this early we can avoid a few problems, it can always be tweaked in the wiki way when needed. Mirwin 12:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Those all looks to me like common sense so IMO it doesn't need to be written down as a policy. I'd like to keep our policies to a minimum if we really want people to actually read and follow them. -- sebmol ? 13:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

) Looks like all the main points have been covered. A few more tweaks and it should be ready. Yorktown1776 15:46, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, some heated discussion in Wikipedia were about names, if I remember right. A policy like this would more helpful than it would add to "instruction creep". Awolf002 00:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Until I actually see the page, I can't say yes or no on it. --Rayc 05:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I am neutral really to this policy in general, but I think it is a bit premature here on Wikiversity. Other than some blatant vandals with obscene language in their names and impersonating well known users, I don't see this as a problem.  Besides, with the unified login coming I don't see even that becoming a major issue as the naming conventions are going to be moved up to the foundation level as well.  I would suggest holding off for just a little bit longer and see what happens over the next couple of months if this is needed.  --Robert Horning 05:59, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, this is something we don't need at the moment. --HappyCamper 11:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Names with non-Latin characters
I suggest that we allow all characters, but ask the users to transliterate their names in their signatures.--Hillgentleman|User talk 17:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Adopt as Guideline
I'm going to put Guideline on here now. Any objections? ..tic.tic.tic.. CQ 13:37, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * . The Jade Knight (d'viser) 16:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Except I still oppose this section: "Names with non-Latin characters".  The Jade Knight (d'viser) 16:29, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

 * ✅. Removed that section, it's truly out of place with SUL. --Abd (discuss • contribs) 19:27, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Offensive user names
I started here the discussion about user name policy and how to identify offensive user names?

"Wikimedia foundation" Wikis discussion pages about user name policy.
"Wikimedia foundation" runs nearly 250 wiki platforms. https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Using_Wikibooks/Setting_Up_A_User_Account#Choosing_a_Username

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wikiquote:Username_policy

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Username

(KOItopet (discuss • contribs) 03:54, 28 April 2019 (UTC))

 * See Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Username policy for guidelines on usernames, and specifically Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Username policy for how to handle them. If you'd like to discuss this further, please use the Colloquium. -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 12:53, 28 April 2019 (UTC)

 * Thanq User:Dave Braunschweig, i was added other usefull information:

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Username#Inappropriate_usernames

"The below information from your website : https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Username.

Confusing, misleading, or troublesome usernames
Names that can be confused with other contributors. (If someone else is using a nickname that you wish to use, please consider using either an alternative pseudonym or your real name instead, or simply do not use a nickname. In the unlikely event that someone else is editing Wikiversity with your real name, please add a middle name or initial or some other way of distinguishing between you and the existing contributor) Names that include commonly used Wikimedia software or Wikiversity community terms, or imply an official position on Wikiversity. Prohibited username components include, but are not limited to words resembling the following: "Custodian","Administrator", "Admin", "System operator", "Sysop", "Moderator", or any other name which implies an official role or role greater than that of a standard user. "Rollback" or "Revert", "Edit war", "POV", etc.       "Delete", "Upload", "Pagemove", "Redirect", or other editing processes or abstractions "Vandal", "Hacker", "Spammer", "Troll", or other names that may give the impression that you intend to cause trouble "Bot", "Robot", "Script", "Initialize", "Automated", "Daemon", etc., unless the name is intended as a designated bot account. Names that imply bot accounts may be blocked, and the user may be requested to contact an administrator to confirm that the account is indeed a bot account. Any visible toolbar buttons, namespaces, or other technical terms which may be confusing to inexperienced users or otherwise imply a capacity different than that of a normal user.

Inflammatory usernames
Wikiversity does not allow potentially inflammatory or offensive user names. Inflammatory usernames are needlessly discouraging to other contributors, and disrupt and distract from our task of creating an effective learning environment. This includes, but is not limited to:

Names that promote or imply hatred or violence, Names that are recognized as slurs or insults,Names that refer to symbols of hatred, including historical figures or events that are widely associated with such,Names that refer to or imply sexual acts or genitalia, including slang, innuendo, and double entendre, Names that refer to or allude to reproductive or excretory functions of the body,Names that promote or refer to violent or otherwise illegal real-world actions (e.g terrorism, organized crime),Names mentioning or referring to illnesses, disabilities, or conditions (e.g. AIDS, Amputation, Asperger syndrome, etc.) Names that contain profanity, obscenities, or other potentially offensive language (including non-English profanities),Inappropriate usernames : Names of religious figures such as "God","Jehovah",,"Buddha","Bonadea" or "Allah","Jainism","Islam","Hinduism" or any other religious user names are prohibited in Wikiversity. Names that promote a controversial or potentially inflammatory point of view,Misspellings, or spellings of any of the types of names above with "cr34+1v3 sub5717u710nz" (creative substitutions)

Title_blacklist
This is a list of page titles which are blocked from creation/editing on Wikimedia wikis.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Title_blacklist

Thanq ,Please reply me, ...I gathered all information for easy reference  from your website and your mentioned above websites.

(KOItopet (discuss • contribs) 16:42, 30 April 2019 (UTC))

 * Thank you for sharing this information. If there seems to be something missing from the page, please be bold and update it. If you're asking for someone to do something in response to inappropriate usernames, see Request custodian action. Thanks! -- Dave Braunschweig (discuss • contribs) 17:37, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

WV:UNC needs updates
The current version of WV:UNC says that Bureaucrats will rename, but this is outdated (renaming is currently handled by stewards and global renamers), how should we update this section? Should we simply replace Bureaucrats to stewards and global renamers, or do we need further rewriting? MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 02:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

 * To be perfectly honest, I think most, if not all, of this section is unnecessary. The vast majority of inappropriate usernames are vandalism-only accounts, and are blocked as a matter of course. It is exceptionally rare that a productive contributor will have an inappropriate username; on the off-chance that one shows up, they can be directed to request a rename through Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Omphalographer (discuss • contribs) 03:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The steward change is uncontroversial, so I already did it: keeping outdated directives is just going to cause problems. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:48, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

title: Wikiversity talk:Username


text:
Wikiversity talk:Cite sources

Votes

 * Rayc 05:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- sebmol ? 12:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * --Dario vet 12:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Mirwin 13:15, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * --HappyCamper 13:24, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- After some thought, this policy as it stands is more compatible with writing an encyclopedia than creating learning materials or conducting research. A help page (or even a guideline) about the who, what, when, where, why and how of citing sources would be a better alternative. --SB_Johnny | PA! 14:11, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Comments

 * I'm thinking of the Bloom clock project. I first thought we were going to have people send in pictures of the flowers, but it appears that we are just going to have people note when they see flowers blooming.  Saying "I saw a sunflower blooming on thursday, XX/XX/20XX" is not citeable.  The policy as it stands treats both research and coursework as needing citations.  Suggest rewrite. (As it stands now, it says "To improve the overall credibility and authoritative character of Wikipedia." I wonder where this policy came from? :) )  --Rayc 05:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, this needs a "look over." I think we could make a 'cite' policy when OR is part of the project, by adding a "citation mechanims" or rule that references observations by members/participants of the project. "Non-citable" could then mean to not use data from an anon source. Just an idea... Awolf002 15:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * We need to develop our content first, create our own precedents and derive best practices from that. This policy is highly premature. -- sebmol ? 12:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * We need to use some common sense. There is probably no need to cite a source for Newton's Laws in every physics and engineering lesson.  Yet many will have links to more detailed presentations/explanations with citations. If someone is studying our material and challenges it, how are we too resolve the controversy in favor of more precision and correctness and understandibility if there is no requirement to cite a reputable source to backup initial claims of both parties for comparison?  We need to plan on documenting chains of reasoning and facts and provide further means of study for those inclined.  A cite provides both.  A paragraph or two could be added to introduce some gray wiggle room to help us get started and preserve potential for special projects.  Obviously no citation potential exists with original data.  Mirwin 13:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * One cannot answer ALL questions BEFORE they are asked.Hillgentleman 08:24, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

 * So this is policy now even though there are some concerns over the implementation?--Rayc 03:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I think people are able to use common sense. When doubtful information is noticed on a page, people will ask for citations to sources. --JWSchmidt 16:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

 * For what it's worth, I support this policy as encouraging good practice - but I would not like, for example, to start mass-deletions of resources because they are not well-referenced, or adding "citation-needed" templates willy-nilly (not that I was suggesting this was what others suggested). The finding of citations for something submitted during an educational process can be encouraged through debate - it would not be productive to apply this policy miltantly, but within "common sense". Developing this "common sense" seems to be analogous to what Sebmol advises to "create our own precedents and derive best practices from that". Cormaggio talk 10:25, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I think common sense is the path we should follow now. Cite sources when it's appropriate to do so, of course, but that's more appropriate for a help page, not an enforced policy. As was mentioned above, Wikiversity allows for OR, and depending on the type of OR, it might not really be possible to cite a source (on the contrary, we might be creating a source). A certain kind of verifiability can be reached by repeatability, rather than relying only on what's been said before. --SB_Johnny | PA! 14:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I would like to see some examples of learning resources with inline citations. Maybe create them on WV:Cite sources/Examples or link to real examples that people have already done. --Devourer09 18:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

The page assumes "articles"
Wikiversity encompasses many types of materials, and articles are only one kind of writing. The proposed policy specifically is about "mainspace" pages, in part, and in part seems to refer to all pages. This was never thrashed out so that the application was clear, which is why this was not formally made policy. It's like a lot of Wikiversity "situations," the community never came together with a coherent expression, so various community members sailed long, each with their own ideas of what we are about. Leads to conflict, eh? We can be many things, we don't have to be just one, but if there is no commonly accepted unifying vision, we have a formula for endless dispute. --Abd 23:54, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I have edited the Verifiability policy, on which this proposed guideline or policy is based. If that is shown to be stable, I would intend to edit this to show actual practice as well as normative guidelines for assuring verifiability and neutrality. The objections above about this policy being designed for encyclopedia articles are sound. Educational resources are very different from encyclopedia articles, and can even promote some particular point of view, as long as they are not deceptively presented.
 * The Wikipedia policies on neutrality and verifiability, if applied in an educational setting, can severely hamper education.
 * In brick-and-mortar schools, students are not only allowed but are encouraged to give their opinions and the results of their own investigations. Professors, as well, often state their opinions. If they are skillful, they will also note that their opinions are not widely accepted, if that is true. They do not always do so, and they are not fired as a result, normally. It is the overall school environment that is neutral. Other balancing opinions may also be presented.
 * As I often write, Wikiversity handles neutrality inclusively, not by exclusion, blanking and deletion. We do act here, to organize material, placing rigorously neutral material at the top level in mainspace, and setting up attributed sections, sometimes, or subpages with original research and opinion, perhaps briefly summarized at the top level. We handle conflicts of interest through disclosure, not through exclusion. The Wikipedia policies are largely appropriate for an encyclopedia, as a "sum" of knowledge, sum meaning summary of what is notable and verifiable, not full addition or inclusion (often misunderstood by naive users). --Abd (discuss • contribs) 15:22, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

title: Wikiversity talk:Cite sources


text:
Wikiversity talk:Verifiability

Votes

 * see commments Oliver 20:44, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- sebmol ? 12:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Mirwin 13:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * It might be worth combining Verifiability and the Reliable Sources policy into one document to ensure the reader does not miss the link off to another page. The second point is we should have a way of citing published sources – i.e. books and citing research papers separately to ensure the reader knows that this might not be absolute fact. Oliver 20:45, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * We need to develop our content first, create our own precedents and derive best practices from that. This policy is highly premature. -- sebmol ? 12:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Oliver makes good points, I would like to associate myself with his remarks. Further, this policy is a good first cut tailoring policy that works well for Wikipedia to Wikiversities unique requirements.  Yes, I agree we need to derive our own best practices and they should be rolled back into existing policy.  Which means we need existing policy. Mirwin 13:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Limits?
I think it is important that this policy include limits—there are certainly contexts in which verifiability is not critical in Wikiversity. In particular I'm thinking of contexts in which new studies are ongoing at Wikiversity. The only way to "verify" such a thing may be to undertake the same experiment, or to have access to the same materials (such as the famous Psychologist in the example given). In certain contexts, this should not be discouraged at Wikiversity, though in other contexts (where something is being taught as absolute fact as to what is or what happened), it may be very important that everything be verifiable. I must say I feel somewhat like Sebmol that this policy is premature, though I do think that something along these lines would be important. I just think it needs to be qualified more. The Jade Knight 04:12, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Addition by Abd
I removed an addition by Abd (copied here for easy reference):
 * "It is routine in peer-reviewed publications that alleged fact is cited to "conversations with So-and-so." The fact reported is the conversation, not truth. And the author of the paper is the witness. Hence such alleged facts require attribution, not only to the alleged source (the physicist above) but also to the witness.
 * "It is not generally true that "private conversation" is unverifiable. One may write to the "famous physicist" and ask, if he or she is still alive. Otherwise, the basic common-law principle is that testimony is presumed true unless controverted. Wikiversity allows original research, and this is an aspect of it. Original research must be, and certainly if challenged, attributed to the researcher. While page history will show who added original research, this should be explicit in the text or context. On top-level mainspace pages, these rules may be relatively strict. In subpages, subpages may be, in toto, attributed to author or other user, in which case they should normally not be edited by others without permission.

--Dan Polansky (discuss • contribs) 07:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for patrolling undiscussed changes. I generally agree that research content should not be edited by others (except technical maintenance, I sometimes add categories to WikiJournals etc.). At WikiJournals, edits by others may affect the result of peer review. MediaWiki:Protect-dropdown has "Teacher request". In a similar manner we may have "Research author request" to prevent concerned edits. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 13:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I also support that "It is not generally true that "private conversation" is unverifiable." The most accurate way to verify conversations would be recordings. Even without them, if the same thing was said before by the author(s) in a different recorded environment, then the conversation would be semi-verifiable. Some authors may include their conversations in upcoming publications, this would also be better than unverifiable. I don't think all private conversations can be labeled as unverifiable. MathXplore (discuss • contribs) 13:52, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

title: Wikiversity talk:Verifiability


text:
Wikiversity talk:Reliable sources

Votes

 * Rayc 05:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * digital_metalk 13:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Awolf002 15:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * -- sebmol ? 12:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * --Dario vet 12:24, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Mirwin 13:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Comments

 * Looks good with the "whenever possible" modifier. Though get rid of all the mentions of "articles".   --Rayc 05:37, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and clarified why "articles" showed up in the text. Hope this helps. Awolf002 15:49, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

 * We need to develop our content first, create our own precedents and derive best practices from that. This policy is highly premature. -- sebmol ? 12:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It needs a bit of local evolution. Specifically the bit about verifiability is a bit overdone and puts people adding useful material on the defensive. Always appropriate to improve material by adding to it or modifying it along with a citation and explanation why.  Arbitrarily deleting or moving to the talk page merely because there is no citation does not seem useful or desirable to me at this time considering our dire lack of materials.  Mirwin 23:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
 * We don't have a dire lack of materials any more, but i think we might have to find another method of confronting erronous statements on a page. A course on evolution could be very disrubted if someone were to remove a large chunk of the text because "it was unreferenced"--Rayc 00:17, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Limits?
I feel that this policy, like the verifiability one, needs to have mention of limits: contexts in which reliable sources may be less important than the discussion at hand. If I come up with specific examples, I'll mention them eventually. The Jade Knight 04:16, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

This policy is not actual practice
This policy has never, to my knowledge, been enforced, except erratically and idiosyncratically, long ago. No mature university would require their professors to cite reliable source for everything they say. Student papers submitted in university courses need not be peer-reviewed before being presented to a class. Rather, the policy was created here because Wikiversity users were Wikipedians, thinking like those involved in building an "encyclopedia that anyone could edit." Normally, encyclopedias retained experts. So how to build a reasonably reliable encyclopedia without relying on experts? The answer was to rely on material in "reliable sources." Yet I can say things in a paper approved by a peer-reviewed journal, I just did, that would not be accepted on Wikipedia.

The Wikipedia standards developed with a flat, single page per topic, project model that set up conflict, that attempted to exclude material created with a "point of view." The problem: experts have points of view, and amateurs who know a subject often have points of view as well, and generally know the topic better than "neutral editors," who may not understand the topic and who misread sources.

An encyclopedia also has a notability issue: material, for inclusion in an encyclopedia, should be notable. Not just any knowledge.

To learn about a topic at a university, it is not required that the topic be notable. A seminar can be set up if there are interested students. Here, that can be just one student. In controversial areas, speakers may be invited to present highly opinionated material.

Wikiversity has a neutrality policy, that is fundamental to WMF wikis; however, Wikiversity handles neutrality through inclusion, organization, and structure, not through exclusion of opinion and bias. We have many non-disruptive ways of handling this. It turns out that people are not upset if their opinions are attributed to them, as they are upset if the opinions (which they may think are fact) are excluded or deleted. Content conflict on Wikiversity is rare. To enforce the policy as written, conflict would become routine, it would be quite like Wikipedia.

Top level pages in Wikiversity may approach rigorous neutrality, and the only reliable measure of neutrality is true consensus. If it doesn't have consensus, there is a high risk that it is not actually neutral. So we push the material down, and negotiate for what is at the higher level to find consensus. We don't have to have consensus, here, to express our opinion or the results of our research. We have users who will support each other in this expression, so that it is not disruptive.

The policy needs revision, or to be deprecated. Thoughts? --Abd (discuss • contribs) 23:42, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

title: Wikiversity talk:Reliable sources