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Talk:Trinidad

There should be no specific eat listings in a region article. The following were all cut and should be placed into their relevant city article (eg Port of Spain. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:42, 7 July 2011 (EDT)

Be sure to try:
 * Old Airport Doubles Man, the food section near the old airport, Closed Wednesdays and Sundays. There is only one doubles vendor here.
 * Sauce Doubles, South of Curepe Junction. Typically sold out before 11PM.
 * Prince Doubles, North of the Dial in Arima. Award winning.
 * UWI Doubles, just off the campus of the University of the West Indies. Noted for their coconut chutney and repeated health concerns.

Roti
Trinidad's roti styles were created by descendants of Indian immigrants. The two most popular styles are 'Dhalpuri' and 'Paratha' (a.k.a. 'Buss-up-Shut' or 'Buss-up-shot'). Dhalpuri roti is a thin flatbread cooked on a hotplate with a layer of ground split-peas inside. It is eaten as an edible wrapper (you may see the term 'wrapped roti' on menus) for various curried meat and vegetable fillings. Paratha/Buss-up-Shut is a soft, buttery flatbread which is torn up while cooking ('Buss-up-Shut' comes from the phrase 'busted-up-shirt') served alongside curried side dishes for dipping. Roti is sold in restaurants and roadside shops nearly everywhere. Traditionalists order their roti with a red soft-drink (soda). Prices vary from $7 TT for a small vegetarian dhalpuri up to $30 or $40 TT for a box/plate of Buss-up-Shut with vegetable sides and a more exotic meat dish (such as conch).

Be sure to try:
 * Wing's, Off Pasea Road, Tunapuna (first left from highway, second right, just after corner). Famous for their curried duck.
 * Patraj Roti Shop, 159 Tragarete Road, Port of Spain, and another branch in El Socorro.
 * Dobson's Roti Shop, Marli Street, Port of Spain, down the street from the US embassy. Excellent dhalpuri.
 * Krishna and Baby's, Maracas beach. Very friendly service with roti made to your desire. An alternative to shark and bake on the beach.

Shark and Bake- Tourists call it "Shark and Bake", but it is locally called "Bake and Shark"
A deep fried thin slice of shark meat inside of a fried bread (a 'fry-bake'). Served with strong sauces such as tamarind and chadon-beni (a local herb similar to cilantro). Prices are between $25- $30 TT.

Be sure to try: "Natalie's", Maracas beach.
 * Richard's, Maracas beach. Tons of toppings. Long line
 * Krishna and Baby's, Maracas beach. Very friendly service.

Fried Chicken
Although the concept did not originate in Trinidad, the use of local herbs and spices results in fried chicken which has a truly unique taste.
 * Royal Castle, the local competitor to KFC uses only local seasonings in their fried chicken, giving it a flavour unparalleled by any other. It is best eaten with lime pepper sauce or the honey mustard provided as condiments.
 * KFC, although the franchise is American, one cannot help but notice the difference in taste between that sold in America and the local franchise. Most agree that it is better tasting than that sold in America.

Notable Restaurants
............ Issa's Restuarant & Pub- Issa's Restaurant & Pub is located on Upper Henry Street Port of Spain. Two buildings away from the Roytec Business School. The restaurant serves breakfast daily from 7am till 10am and lunches from 10am until 3pm.Breakfast includes local favourites such as fried bakes,roasted bakes, sada rotis and a wide assortment of meat or vegetarian sides. Lunches typically include: Buttered Cassava, Macaroni Pies, Sheppard Pies, Jerk & Barbeque Chicken, Pigtail, Fried or Pineapple Fish as well as delicious desserts to make any lunch complete. Meals are usually priced by weight at $32.00TT per pound and may be $35-$45 on average.

Issa's Pub-Is a great place to enjoy the night in the city of Port of Spain. The bar is open from Wednesdays to Sundays from 12pm and although originally associated with the local ballroom and latin dance has become a place with a little bit to offer for everyone. Their weekly lineup is Wednesdays-Karaoke Nights,Thursdays Ballroom and Back in Times Dance Party, Fridays After Work 'Lime'and Party, Saturdays Latin Dance Night and Sundays Ladies Night.

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Talk:Trinidad (Cuba)

Move to Trinidad (Cuba)
This is the first I've heard of 'Trinidad de Cuba', isn't it almost entirely known as just Trinidad? I propose it be moved to Trinidad (Cuba)  (WT-en) Cacahuate 10:12, 7 November 2006 (EST)

 * Done. (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 02:05, 21 January 2007 (EST)

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Talk:Trinidad and Tobago

Inconclusive
(For a trinidadian living outside of T&T i must say that this article is a bit too inconclusive to be considered informative. I like roti just as much as the next person, however i don't think it merits being the unofficial official meal of T&T.. because of how varied food and culture is in trinidad and tobago, no single meal can effectively be considered as such.)

Some Indian owned homes.The majority of the populastion are decended from Blacks from Africa and Indians from India. The Racism is between the two not the indiggies. Asshole should meet people from more than one race. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 87.74.38.106 (talk • contribs)

As a black trini I was brought up with hot and cold running water and en suite bathrooms. Trinindad has great poverty wealth(oil money) racism and corruption.....I would suggest more travel around trinindad. Some parts are county and some are lovely black,indian or white suburbs. Education culminates in international o`levels and a`level from Oxford & Cambridge. Wealthy blacks tend go to college in Canada or England. Indians Trinidad or India. A Degree allow freedom of movement throught the Carrib via Carricom. In the UK and US Indians rejected Trinidad indians as most are of mixed blood. This has produced a strange Hindu nationalism bent on taking over the country through easy immigration from India a la Fiji. This is the root of an ever worsening racial situation. Canada has huge links with the black trini population. Most blacks travel there and to Venezuala. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 87.74.38.106 (talk • contribs)
 * I don't know where to start with this garbage from an unsigned, anonymous user. I think you have your facts "wrongside" as they say.  Yes, I am an Trini Indian, but I sense deep racial overtones in your post! First of all, there is quite a large population of Trinidad Indians in North America.  New York and Toronto have huge Trini Indian populations.  In New York (where I lived for 6 years, until last year) there are huge Trinidad Indian populations in Queens (Richmond Hill, "Liberty", Ozone Park).  There are also many Trini Indians in Florida.  Due to the worsening crime situation (which has steadily declined with the PNM Government in power) many Trinidadians are fleeing for the states and Canada.  Almost all of my family is in the US, and those that aren't are coming, because under the PNM, crime has gotten worse and worse.  Secondly, Trinidad Indians are of mixed blood?  Explain that one.  FWIW, Indians in India are of mixed blood, so I don't get what you're saying.  In the US, Indians (from India) don't "reject"  Trinidad Indians.  Rather, the cultural incompatibilities stem from the lack of a common Indian language (Trinidadians don't usually speak Hindi) and most Trini Indians don't know where in India they are from.  But most of my Indian co-workers have no problem socializing with me and even inviting me to their homes.  As for Indian "racism" in Trinidad, you are only talking about Sat maharaj and a few fundamentalists.  The majority of Indians simply want a crime free and peaceful Trinidad which is not happening under PM Manning.  People are FED UP of the crime situation and of Indian businessmen/businesswomen being kidnapped and killed by G-d only knows who.  Finally, more Indians from Trinidad are going to college in the USA and Canada (many of my friends, in fact) than India.  Not just wealthy folks, but many poor Indians who do well in school and who win scholarships.  So next time, get your facts straight and please stop spreading this propaganda.(WT-en) Rjairam 21:58, 10 February 2007 (EST)

Religion
The article says that five of the world's major religions are represented in Trinidad. This should be clarified. For example, there is not a large Jewish community in Trinidad (Judaism being a major religion). This could be of importance to visitors from North America and Europe (especially Eastern Europe).(WT-en) Rjairam 19:49, 2 February 2007 (EST)
 * Very small, but quite longstanding. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:12, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Weather
Is June-September a bad time to visit? Thanks, 66.91.225.188 11:28, 1 May 2007 (EDT)

Main-Major airport/s in Trinidad-Tobago
Ok, this may seem obvious but what is the main airport to get into Trinidad from the outside? 71.228.155.181 19:58, 8 September 2007 (EDT)

 * Added. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:32, 9 September 2007 (EDT)

Answer: POS (Port-of-Spain) has commercial service from San Juan, Puerto Rico, Miami, FL (MIA), Newark (EWR), and New York City's JKF Airport (JFK).

Houston (IAH) is also accessible.

Legal Handguns
What are the policies (official and customary) of honoring foreign Concealed Carry Permits for tourists who wish to carry their legally licensed handguns while visiting Trinidad & Tobago? What weapons can an American carry for self defense?

Linking
I am reverting these edits again. They violate Wikivoyage policy. If you disagree with the policy, you can propose changes on the policy's talk page. Until changes are made, Wikipedia links don't belong here. Ground Zero (talk) 05:44, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 16:50, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this article. Ground Zero (talk) 12:45, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Tripoli

Safwa Hotel
I removed the Safwa Hotel from the hotels section because the hotel gives master keys to all of its guests, which means that any guest (or employee) can access any hotel room at any time. This even applies when the deadbolt is turn (the lock flashes red, but you can still open the door).

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Talk:Tripoli (Lebanon)

Warning box
I haven't been there, but that warning box strikes me as a little harsh... is it really that dangerous in Tripoli? More so than anywhere else in Lebanon? The travel warning on the US State site doesn't specifically call out Tripoli as more dangerous. Anyone know? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 23:57, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

Not as dangerous as some people might think
Tripoli is a safe place but some conflicts might occur from time to time, but absolutely not in any tourist area.

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Talk:Tristan da Cunha

Merge into one article
Since the only listings (eat & sleep) in this archipelago are on the main island, I don't think we need to have separate articles for Inaccessible Island and Gough Island, and doubt that they meet our article criteria. Any reason not to merge those articles into this one? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:20, 17 March 2010 (EDT)

New official language?
Remote Island Adopts Dothraki Language Announced April 1, 2013... Pashley (talk)

To get to guide status
I'd love to nominate this article for an Off the Beaten Path someday because it's so fascinating. What does this article need to get to guide status? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:15, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Well, I'm incredibly fortunate that a local library has the only guidebook to the island (from Bradt) that is otherwise expensive/hard to find (it's out of print and the robo-pricing software that Amazon sellers use makes available copies quite expensive...$64.99 at the moment). I don't know what to add, just that it seems rather short. Go next needs info. I don't have time to browse now, but the island's website has lots of useful info. I recall there are a lot of regulations in place to protect the environment: inspection/washing on arrival, can't take anything home (plants...even rocks!). I think they also charge very high entry fees for journalists (and people suspected of being journalists). Given the small size of the community (and since it must be quite lonely), this seems like a great location to contact someone and cooperate with their tourism office. Wikivoyage is a low-bandwidth site, so there's possibly someone/people on the island that can greatly expand the article. AHeneen (talk) 07:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

 * The main problem is the weakness of the get in section. It's not clear to me from reading it whether people arrive by freighter, private yachts, cruise ships, or all of the above. There is one mention of cruise ships in the article, but at other times it sounds like such a simple solution is not a reality. This affects logistics—if by freighter, the schedule would be set, and you'd have to follow it. Also, there needs to be some information about the Island Shop, since self-catering sounds to be how you get most of your meals. I'll make a map of Edinburgh of the Seven Seas, although I won't know where to put the listings. But yeah, this would be a cool feature. I imagine after getting these issues sorted out, we could email the government to nail down the details of hours of operation, phone numbers, etc., and then make this a star. --Peter Talk 20:00, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * And here's the map I promised (the SVG is available through the file page). If either of you can place more listings, please go ahead—I'm done working on it unless/until someone gives me something more I can do. --Peter Talk 06:49, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Great! Is there any reason we shouldn't put the map up in the article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:54, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * By all means (although it will be squishy). I mean to make a map divided into three sections showing this, a detailed map with a raster image of the island, and the island grouping. That will require a bigger thumb, but that will actually help in lengthening the article vertically, so we can fit the same amount of photos. --Peter Talk 15:48, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * If you'd like to continue working on the map, that's wonderful, and we can certainly hold off before placing it in the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:51, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Handling Outer Islands
The way the page had been organized, with the "do" section broken up into sub-sections for each major island, doesn't make much sense, since what was described was more than just "do" listings. Since no accommodation is available on these islands (except some huts on Nightingale), I've moved their descriptions to the "Go next" section as is standard practice. The wildlife information can be collected in a single sub-section under "See", referencing the different islands on which the animals/plants can be found. A section on visiting the outer islands can be added under "Get around". Does everyone agree with these changes? Does all this make sense? Any other ideas for better organizing the content of this page? AHeneen (talk) 07:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There's a certain elegance to your solution, but I think if we're going to go with it, another sentence is needed in the introductory part of the article. I'll insert it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:03, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Trogir

Reason for deletion
Hi. You cannot use any page, including your user page or user talk page, to promote a business that does not fall under the guidelines at Project:Activity listings. Furthermore, you can't tout it. If you're looking for a site where you can post free advertisements, please look elsewhere.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 05:03, 2 September 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Trójmiasto

vfd?
Should the artice be added to Project:Disambiguation pages? --(WT-en) JanSlupski 06:26, 18 Jan 2005 (EST)

 * No, it's a (very small) region page. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:53, 18 Jan 2005 (EST)

From Project:Votes for deletion:

 * Trojmiasto. Looks like the slippy slope style problem of Tri Cities but in Polish.  WikiPedia has a listing referring to it as a metropolitan area.   -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 11:37, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)
 * I noticed Jpatokal defending it as a region on it's dicussion page, but wouldn't that same argument apply to Tri Cities? -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 12:05, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)
 * Well, while Triple City article content is jessica is beautiful girl i love her and she lives in coquitlam, Trojmiasto is a real term often used in Poland. In my opinion it is resonable to keep the article, as people may search for that name. BTW, if it is not clear, Trójmiasto is a name for Gdańsk-Sopot-Gdynia aglomeration, not for any tree city aglomeration. See also: Twin Cities. --(WT-en) JanSlupski 15:35, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)
 * Keep. Thanks for the explaination, Jan. -- (WT-en) Colin

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Talk:Trolleybus

I guess this info should be moved to Holland, but don't other places have Trolleybuses? (WT-en) Majnoona 09:19, 4 Nov 2004 (EST)

 * Practically every ex-Warsaw Pact or ex-Soviet city, for one... (WT-en) Jpatokal 09:22, 4 Nov 2004 (EST)

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Talk:Tromsø

This place is refered to as both Tromsø and Tromso. So I moved Tromsø to Tromso because ø is not English, meaning Tromso is the most common English name spelling. -- (WT-en) Huttite 23:37, 2 Jul 2005 (EDT)

'Hey! The official name of the city is Tromsø. Tromso is just something you write if you can't find your ø.

“Breaking” a page
Hi! Tromsø was my first edit ever on Wikivoyage, and there was a header saying: ''WARNING: This page is 53 kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections.'' I then hesitated to do more, add infos… According to which guidelines can we (I) break a page into smaller sections. I didn't find round here examples that could help.

Otherwise, I couldn't manage to do with the usual   and others. I am totally unable to understand this kind of things, may you please explain this to me in daily language.

Thank you forward for your help (takk på forhånd for hjelpen). (WT-en) ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko 12:50, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

 * I've never had a problem with Internet Explorer handling the long pages. I believe that "breaking" refers to editing one section at a time. Click "edit" next to the Do or See section instead of the Edit tab at the top. We do not use HTML here, so avoid /br etc. -(WT-en) OldPine 13:37, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

 * Thanks for your edits. Feel free to ignore that message. It is a relic of times when some browsers had problems editing large pages. There is really no need for the message anymore. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 13:43, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

 * I suppose that 53 kb is not a critical size. In other hand a huge page size is unpleasant for a users, who have low-speed internet connection (eg. dialup) or access Wikivoyage by a mobile devices. Personally i try to hold a page size smaller about 60-100 kb depending on number of pictures (this page size take into account only a text, no artwork). A example of article divided into part is Chicago. In any case a article content is above a technical issues. ;-)  -- (WT-en) Sergey kudryavtsev 02:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT)

this article is written with an outstanding smart sense of humor..so i could not help laughing out loudly when reading the lines..

thank you whoever is/are the person(s) written the notes on parks, restaurants etc..

Trains
I took the liberty to change some train info:

 * It is true that there is a train to Kolari in Northern Finland. But since there is no onward bus connection to Tromsø from there, is of no help that Kolari is slightly closer to Tromsø. Helsinki-Rovaniemi by train, with a corresponding bus to Tromsø (in summer) is a good idea. Left alone in Kolari is NOT.

 * The fact that there is a train to Nikel in Russia is of precious little help to most travellers. You still have to cross the border to Norway (with a Schengen visa), and then you have around 900km/600mi to Tromsø. The bus three times a week to Tromsø requires one overnight in Alta. (WT-en) LocoDelNorte

Festivals
I hope someone can add some info about the festivals in Tromsø.

Images
There are way too many images in this article. Should be cutback to the usual minimum. Please someone who knows Tromso do this. I think about 10 would be right. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:21, 30 March 2010 (EDT)
 * Why cut back on the images? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) LocoDelNorte (talk • contribs)
 * Because it looks cluttered and it's simply unnecessary. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 10:57, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

 * Indeed. Minimal use of images is also Wikivoyage policy. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:04, 1 April 2010 (EDT)

Wow, I lost count twice trying to count them all! They're all great but need to be cut down. My suggestions would be The arctic cathedral, Northern Lights, midnight sun, view from the cable car, a scene from the market, the traditional wooden buildings, plus possibly some festivals and harbor scenes. Many of the pictures are scenes from outside Tromso, I'm going to cut down on those in the meantime except for the Get Out section. Other suggestions would be awesome! (WT-en) hokiesvt 22:19, 26 March 2011 (EDT)

Vegetarian kafe
There is actually a vegetarian kafe in Tromsø. Sivertsens kafekooperativ is located at Rådstua Teaterhus, Vestregata 48. It offers a small, but good and affordable meny. Opening hours are 12 to 17 each wednesday to saturday this summer. The facebook site is http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=1148490818&ref=ts g. Sivertsens kafekooperativ

 * Would you please plunge forward and add this to the article, perhaps formatted as a listing? – (WT-en) Vidimian 18:42, 23 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Since this seems like a useful information and as our friend seems to lost interest, I've plunged forward and added this to Tromsø. I've added it to "budget" subsection since it seems the right place, but I know nothing of neither the cafe nor the town, so anybody with local information, please feel free to move it to elsewhere. – (WT-en) Vidimian 10:59, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

Sami souvenir sellers
A "Sami souvenirs sold by Sami people?" was changed to "... Sami people." I suppose the question mark was there to imply the sellers not necessarily being Sami. Misuse of Sami costumes is common in Finland, so I would not be surprised, but I don't know the situation in Norway, and nothing about this specific square.

If the question mark was there by intent, I suppose one should add a clarifying sentence.

--LPfi (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

 * Exactly. Adding a sentence with a confusing question mark is definitely not OK; therefore, I replaced it with a period, in the absence of any other information. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:32, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

 * I removed reference to ethnicity. --Erik den yngre (talk) 12:29, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

 * Thank you. --LPfi (talk) 19:10, 2 January 2020 (UTC)

PageRevision, keeping Tromsø Voyage Page up to date

 * In the section /*Do*/ there's a list of concerts and festivals happening annually. This list also includes some expired event(s). Døgnvill was an outdoor festival that seized to exsist in 2013, but no longer being arranged. Some of the concerts that are still relevant for the list are:

 * Ordkalotten Festival of litterature Link to WP page in Norwegian - early November.
 * Insomnia - autumn
 * Rakettnatt - summerfestival (Not arranged in 2020 or 2021)
 * Nothern Lights Festival - winter

About the bars section under /*Drink*/
 * Flyt has undergone a renovation in "2021 CoVid-times" and has not been open to the public.
 * Heidi's Bier Bar is a bar that opened in Tromsø in 2018. The Norwegian Bar-brand moved into Storgata 4, and took moved to the place where the Rogers and Bloom had previously been.

 * There are other pieces such as an image on the site depicting places that no longer exist or have moved.
 * For the /*Sleep*/ part, current hotel prices are fairly easy to research, although the info there were written some years back and somethings are not up to date.

--Mathias -Ahoy (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

 * Please plunge forward to updating the article. It is much easier to do for some one with knowledge of the destination. You also might understand Norwegian, which helps where information in English isn't readily available. –LPfi (talk) 13:07, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Article might be to extensive
hello fellow editors of the english WikiVoyage, is it just me, or does the article covering Tromsø feel a bit extensive.

I have browsed through the guide Welcome, Wikipedians, which says about wikivoyage articles:

 * Wikivoyage is traveller-focused. We don't want immense, detailed articles about anything and everything. We don't create articles for every attraction or cross-roads on the globe. Articles in Wikivoyage are comprehensive references for travellers; subjects not directly or indirectly related to travel should be avoided.

—The preceding comment was added by Mathias -Ahoy (talk • contribs) 21 September 2021 12:51 (UTC)

 * I don't think the Understand is too extensive. The rest should be travelling related. A quick looks suggests that the prose could be a bit tighter and a few details could be left out, but there are no big chunks of garbage. Thus cutting down on unnecessary detail requires quite some work, best done when adding and adjusting also otherwise. I don't see extensiveness as a big problem here. –LPfi (talk) 13:05, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

 * Plunge forward, although I have the same feelings as LPfi about the topic here. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:09, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't think that what is covered here is excessive. Trimming the text to make it more concise could be worthwhile, but I don't see anything that should be left out. Ground Zero (talk) 13:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

eat
One more step for the sake of keeping destination up to date. In other words, I have listed Egon Resturant, located on the west side of the Tromsoe Island. Needs a bit more details like what price to expect and opening hours. It located inside Jekta mall, with a size of housing over 100 stores. What politices does WikiVoyage have to copying reviews from sites like Tripadvisor. Just curious.--Mathias -Ahoy (talk) 19:52, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

 * From Listings:
 * The description can be derived from an impression of the reviews that you have read, together with some facts from the official page, but you should not copy somebody else's words into Wikivoyage. Avoid listing establishments where the reviews are overly negative.

 * So don't copy, but you can try to get a sense of what the place is like from reading the reviews, and then describe by your own words the part you do trust.

 * –LPfi (talk) 20:48, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

 * Yup, please write in your own words/paraphrase and Avoid negative reviews. Egon is a Norwegian mid-range chain restaurant and IMO a pretty good one (at least the Trondheim restaurant a few years ago) --Ypsilon (talk) 20:59, 2 October 2021 (UTC)

Northern lights
The intro now tells that Tromsø is "one of the best places to view the spectacular Northern Lights in winter". Is this truer? I'd think its coastal location would make overcast skies common, and the climate section of the Wikipedia article seems to support that suspicion. It might be a good choice for those that wouldn't want to give up on the comfort and options of a town, but if you are coming specifically to see northern lights and aren't afraid of cold and solitude, I believe Tromsø shouldn't be the first choice. I believe even Skibotn has much better viewing chances, and somewhere like Kautokeino would be my first suggestion. We can of course mention the lights, but farther on, where there is space for a discussion. –LPfi (talk) 18:06, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Trondheim

I know every location has a right to its own article, but is it really worth to have a two-liner for Hell Station?

Also, am not really happy with intro line. Someone please revise it (or leave it if it's okay afterall). -- (WT-en) Nils 19:28, 17 Jul 2004 (EDT)

Really bad on history, and looks like a student wrote it..
 * Feel free to rewrite it instead of complaining. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 16:29, 2 August 2006 (EDT)

Removed paragraph urging people not to support beggars as "it will only add to their problem". I believe that is controverial point of view that do not belong in a travel guide.

Google has closed their offices in trondheim. news article Ok to change the info in the article? --(WT-en) GuestDOTgr 17:44, 20 January 2009 (EST)

 * Go right ahead on plunge forward sir --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:54, 20 January 2009 (EST)

Kafe Knallhard
I think Kafe Knallhard is closed at the moment because the uffa house burned down.

Deli de Luca
I removed this from eat, for the same reason we don't have 7/11 or Narvesen listed under "food". AndersLeo (talk) 18:25, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Infectious diseases

So should all the diseases currently linked below be merged into this page? It would certainly be more portable that way... and links like Malaria can be redirected to Tropical diseases#Malaria. (WT-en) Jpatokal 00:58, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * There may be justification for having separate article on an intricate disease like Malaria or covering a major topic like food poisoning but I do not think every disease need to be enumerated and described in its own article. This is one of those Slippery slopes. -- (WT-en) Huttite 01:06, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * I very strongly agree. After deleting the nominated typhoid and avian influenza articles I noticed that there are several more here (mosquitoes, yellow fever, dengue, etc).  I think it would be best to keep things to a single page with a brief description of what the disease is, necessary precautions, and affected areas.  Adding a link to the CDC or Wikipedia would suffice for those wanting more info.  The specifics of, for example, how polio was nearly eradicated aren't necessarily relevant for a travel guide. -- (WT-en) Wrh2 15:06, 4 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Page Reversion
So I reverted the page! Yes I know that is a rather agressive move but I felt the page had been changed too much, and wrongly, so decided to go back to the previous good version. I had the following issues with the direction the page was being taken.
 * 1) Several non-goal articles were being created, and the potential for a lot more were apparently proposed.
 * 2) Some diseases were deleted => information loss
 * 3) Diseases were being confused Typhus is not Typhoid - I checked when I put them in.
 * 4) Specific diseases were being talked about when the more general ones were not. eg Avian Influenza may be specific to Asia but Influenza is not and should be covered too.
 * 5) Wikivoyage is not a medical encyclopaedia.

I think this article should be kept fairly simple, for the lay-person, explaining precautions the traveller can take generally. Instead of writing another scientific disease article we should reference more elaborate scientific articles on other websites. I will try and incorporate some edits made into the article. -- (WT-en) Huttite 01:01, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * I think there should be a general discussion which health topics should be mentioned in a travel guide.
 * 1. You`re right, Wikivoyage is not a medical encylopaedia
 * 2. If I confused Typhus with Typhoid Fever, I regret!

 * On the other hand (my opinion) a travel guide should not only mention that a disease exist, but also give information about symptoms, precautions, vaccinations (& requiements), and the way the disease may be acquired. But the informations must be of value for the traveller. And it`s hard to give this information in only one sentence on a `general` site (e.g. tropical diseases). So there should be a general decision: more detailed information about every disease important for a traveller (e.g. Malaria, Hepatitis, AIDS, ...), which means a separate page for each disorder or only a brief introduction into the field without any specific diseases listed (so the user/ traveller must look for information elsewhere).
 * For me, it`s the first way I prefer ... -- (WT-en) Tniehoff 15:48, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * I agree that the traveler should be informed about the diseases that exist and that is what I think this article should be about. Rather than just one sentence about a disease, I think there should be a couple of paragraphs, at least. Once we have that on this page, perhaps then we can launch forth into individual articles. However, by that stage the key information should have been communicated in the basic article.

 * Mind you, I think concentrating on the disease is the wrong approach. To go down that path is to presume you already know what disease you have. If that is the case then there is a lot more information that can be extracted from a google search than we could ever have on Wikivoyage. I would rather see a concentration on Signs, Symptoms and History as that is what the traveler needs to render first aid to themselves and others. If you vomit, cannot get off the toilet, bleed, have pains or swelling, you know you are sick, though you probably do not care too much what you are sick with. All you really need to know is do I need to get to a doctor? now? or should I wait till morning?, should I go to a hospital or call an (air) ambulance or is an undertaker needed?

 * Certainly we should have information about vaccinations. But the details change from time to time, even within the year, so too much detail should be avoided as it will be difficult to keep up to date. We should deal in the general and advise people to consult an experienced doctor and relevant websites for the most current information. -- (WT-en) Huttite 17:52, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * OK, you`ve won. Probably it`s time for WikiMedic or so. And now my pager makes me going to the A&E ... (-: -- (WT-en) Tniehoff 23:21, 26 Mar 2005 (EST)

Name change
Many of the diseases/ailments listed on this article, such as influenza, HIV, diarrhea, SARS etc etc, are not confined to tropical regions, so I propose that we 1. change the title to something more appropriate or 2. transfer the non-tropical diseases to a new article titled ???. (WT-en) WindHorse 12:13, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

 * And three and a half years later I agree with you. Condoms prevent tropical diseases!? --(WT-en) inas 20:22, 15 December 2010 (EST)

 * Almost three years later than the last post, I still agree. I'd like to move this page to "Diseases" with a redirect. Does anyone object? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Perhaps we can use the name "Infectious Diseases while Travelling" or something like that. I agree that "Tropical diseases" is a misnomer here. Many such diseases do not only in the tropics, and some very dangerous diseases can be more common in temperate regions. However, it is true that many diseases which are extremely rare in developed countries, such as diphtheria and measles, are still rampant in much of the developing world. Travellers going to those places should definitely be aware of such risks, and get vaccinated if possible. The dog2 (talk) 20:21, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * That name seems too long. I think we should just call it "Diseases" and put it under "Health" in the Travel topics index. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * So how about just "Infectious Diseases" then? I think "Diseases" is a little too general. The term "diseases" include some others such as cancer, genetic diseases or auto-immune disorders, which (with the exception of cervical cancer) are not caused by pathogens. With genetic diseases, you are either born with them or not, and there's absolutely nothing you can do to protect yourself from them. "Infectious Diseases" make it clear that we are only covering diseases that are caused by pathogens, and you can pick them up while travelling, so by taking appropriate precautions, you can protect yourself from them. The dog2 (talk) 21:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I agree. "Infectious diseases" is a logical name. I'll wait a day or so to see if there are any objections before I make the move. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:16, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I decided it was prudent to post to Requests for comment for some more input before the article is moved. One issue is what we do with the introductory sections of the article, which are focused on health problems of the tropics, and in significant part, not even on diseases as such. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I'd prefer just "diseases" since some issues are technically not infections.

I'd also like to see our Dengue fever, Malaria, Travellers' diarrhoea and Yellow fever articles merged into the newly named article. --W. Frankemailtalk 21:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

 * That's a sensible suggestion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:05, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes diseases sounds reasonable to me. Travel Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 22:12, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I think "tropical diseases" is OK as a name, but the article should deal only with those — dengue, malaria, yellow fever, sleeping sickness, ... I've been to a doctor who said his specialty was "tropical medicine".
 * Some more general problems Travellers' diarrhea, Sunburn and sun protection and Altitude sickness are fine as as separate articles. Others should either be merged into a new article or deleted. Pashley (talk) 22:28, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

I'd like to see a consistent variety of spelling within our two word article title until it is merged. Either Travellers' diarrhoea or Travelers' diarrhea --W. Frankemailtalk 22:32, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Amazingly, I don't yet have administrator's tools so I'd like you to make an executive decision tonight with our "Delhi belly" article name, please. --W. Frankemailtalk 01:02, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I just realized you're talking about consistency of spelling between what's a separate article right now and this article. Let's wait for a consensus on what to do about the articles before we change all the spellings. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Spelling should definitely be internally consistent. So, I can see this going either of three ways: Having a catch-all "Diseases" article that has a separate "Tropical diseases" section; keeping this article as "Tropical diseases" and moving sections of this article that deal with diseases that are not fundamentally tropical to (an)other article(s); or having a catch-all "Diseases" article that lists diseases alphabetically. If the non-tropical diseases are split out, what will we do with them?

 * I just thought of a fourth and maybe better possibility: There is no Stay healthy article, and it would probably make sense to have one, by analogy with the Stay safe article. Some of the things in this article, such as the warning about HIV, could be mentioned instead in the context of a reminder in a "Stay healthy" article to "practice safe sex by being cautious about who you sleep with and always using a condom, and never share needles if you make the already risky decision to inject yourself with a narcotic." Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:06, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm happy for a new Stay healthy article to be created. I think that the scope of an article restricted to only tropical diseases is way too narrow. There are many diseases you can catch in the temperate and polar regions as well. Diseases like measles, polio and tetanus are found everywhere, not just in the tropics and there's no doubt that these are dangerous diseases too. And there's also sexually transmitted diseases which you will get by having sex with an infected person anywhere in the world, not just in the tropics. But at the same time, you do need to consider that diseases not present in your hometown can be picked up elsewhere. For instance, measles is rare in the US, but recently, an American traveller picked it up in Indonesia and brought it back, which started a measles outbreak in his hometown in Texas. The dog2 (talk) 05:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * (per RFC) I agree that Tropical diseases does not cover the content, and that the content is generally appropriate for a travel article. A new name is needed, and should make the content clear to the user. Stay healthy seems to have too wide a scope, for this content, but appropriate for a higher level article. Diseases also seems to wide in scope for a travel article. If the article is to be about communicable diseases that are a hazard while travelling the name should indicate this. I don't have an obvious name to suggest that has not already been suggested. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:17, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * "Infectious diseases" was suggested, but it's not clear that all of the diseases covered in this article (excluding introductory sections are infectious. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:24, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Which diseases are not considered infectious? Or are they not considered diseases? • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:11, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I just looked through the text again, and I would say that, actually, all are infectious, but "Diarrhoea" is a symptom that could have several causes. So maybe "Infectious diseases" would be fine, providing the introductory sections are mostly eliminated (e.g., moved to the talk page pending further actions). Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:31, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The travel connection is a bit vague in "Infectious diseases". it sounds a bit encyclopaedic, but I can't think of anything better. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:45, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Same with Dangerous animals, Pests, Pickpockets, Beggars, and the like. The name is practical. I still think I should wait another day or so for more comments before acting, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:13, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 10:46, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Creating Stay healthy as the catch-all article strikes me as obviously the correct solution. Most of the other articles mentioned should become redirects to that and we might add other redirects like Condoms, but we can leave detailed decisions to whoever does the work. Pashley (talk) 13:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I do understand the "infectious diseases" sounds a little technical, but I can't really think of anything else. Essentially, an "infectious diseases" is one that is caused by infection from some pathogen, be it bacteria, viruses, fungi or other parasites. A "contagious diesease" is one that is easily spread. "Diseases" is a very general term. There are lots of diseases which are not caused by pathogens, such as genetic diseases. For example, with say, haemophila, it's something that you are born with due to genetic defect. If you don't have it, you will never get. If you have it, you'll never get rid of it. I think that this article should focus on diseases which you actually can increase your risk of getting due to travelling. While tropical diseases is too narrow, I don't think we need to cover things like cancer, heart disease and so on. Your risks of getting non-infectious diseases are unaffected by whether you travel or not. The dog2 (talk) 21:54, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I agree with your reasoning. There are actually certain types of travel that can increase risks of non-contagious diseases like cancer - for example, travel to areas with high levels of radiation (e.g., Chernobyl, especially if you do something stupid like rolling around on the ground), but those should be covered only in the specific "Stay safe" section of the individual article.

 * So I think I see a plan taking shape: This article should be renamed Infectious diseases and pared of most of the introductory sections, with individual articles on contagious diseases like Malaria, Dengue, and Travellers' diarrhoea merged into the article with redirects, and a separate higher-level Stay healthy article should be created that summarizes issues not only of disease but also sun safety, taking adequate water on hikes in hot, dry climates, etc. If we're agreed on that, I'll go ahead and rename this article shortly (probably later tonight), start making appropriate edits, and create Stay healthy in outline form, to be filled in later. Is there any objection or better suggestion? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

 * That works well with me. Yes, a Stay healthy article can cover more than just diseases. We can also probably mention a little in that article about travel insurance, healthcare and sanitation standards and all that. It's a relavant point that a traveler to say, Japan or Hong Kong need not worry about having access to modern healthcare facilities if he's sick but conversely, if you were in say, North Korea or Niger, it could be a huge problem. The dog2 (talk) 23:29, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Text irrelevant to the general topic of "Infectious Diseases," copied here from the article space
This material may prove useful on another page, such as the Stay healthy article that will be created:

There are a number of Tropical diseases that present a health risk to travellers that are not present in their own countries. This article is meant as a traveller's introduction to the more common aspects of the subject.

Hot humid environments provide ideal conditions for a number of diseases, or their vectors, to survive and spread. Some of these are transmitted by pests such as insects, others are water borne or may be carried by foods, often in meat. A number are transmitted by human contact.

Simple precautions — vaccinations, condoms, mosquito nets and insect repellents, and taking care with food and drink — can greatly reduce the risks.

Heat and sun
Tropical sun is much stronger than at higher latitudes. Sunglasses are almost essential. Many travellers need sunscreen. In places like China and India, many locals routinely carry parasols; consider emulating them. A hat can be a good idea, especially for balding men.

Consider Noel Coward's line "Only mad dogs and Englishmen go out in the noonday sun." You need to manage your time in the sun, avoiding the heat of the day. If partying until dawn is your style, do that, then sleep until two. If not, consider rising around dawn to do your sightseeing before the crowds and the sun get too bad. Try a siesta, or a leisurely lunch in the shade, in the heat of the day.

Heatstroke can be a very serious illness. Drink plenty of bottled water. Consider carrying rehydration salts to replace what you lose by sweating. Soda water includes some salts.

See also Sunburn and sun protection.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

What to move here
As it stands, the Yellow fever article is too long to move here, I think. So we have two logical alternatives: Edit it to a more manageable size and move it, or keep it separate. If we edit it, here's what I think is important to keep: (1) The description of the disease; (2) the description of the vaccination; (3) the maps of endemic zones in Africa and South America; (4) the vaccination requirements - but these could be put into prose list form instead of the table. I think that the comments about where the disease was endemic as of 2006 could be dispensed with, but we should be concerned that they may be inaccurately out of date.

The Malaria article is not quite as long and could be moved here. It might be a problem if this article gets too long, though.

The Travellers' diarrhea article is helpful. Most of it could be moved here, but it's kind of long and well-written, so maybe we should leave it separate.

The Dengue fever article is rather short and could be moved here, though if it's the only one we move, that would be rather inconsistent.

Are there others?

What do you think, everybody? Is it best to keep this article brief and link to the other articles, which have more detailed information about some diseases?

Also, completely different topic: There are a bunch of other-subject Wikipedia links in this article. Is there a good justification for them? I think I woulds say No, that if we want to provide informational links about diseases, they should go to authoritative sources like official public health authorities (the one in the US is the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, but of course other countries have them, too) or highly reputable hospitals. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Recognized health authorities
I noticed the following edit comment from Ikan: "Deleted inline Wikipedia links. Wikipedia is not an authoritative source of medical information; only recognized health authorities should be linked to. Repointed Wikipedia link in sidebar"

I would agree that is a valid statement, however I am unclear as to what is a 'recognized health authority'? Would it be restricted to government health departments? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:39, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I would say the WHO; government health ministries, departments, agencies, etc.; and well-known research hospitals and university medical schools. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:29, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Doc James would probably be able to advise on this. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:35, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Rabies Vaccine
I just want to point out, the rabies vaccine by and large does confer immunity provided you have had the full 3 doses. Of course, there are exceptions as some people's bodies just do not respond well to vaccines, and others are not able to produce antibodies and so on. It is not true that the rabies vaccine is only meant to delay the onset of symptoms rather than confer immunity. Getting treated even if you have been vaccinated is more of a safety precaution than anything in case you are one of those few whose bodies to not respond well to vaccines. But someone with a normal uncompromised immune system will typically be immune to rabies for at least 10 years after receiving 3 doses of the vaccine. The dog2 (talk) 03:14, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Avian influenza
The statement "Current outbreaks among animals occurred in South-East Asia" doesn't make sense. Can this be reworded or should it be deleted? Nurg (talk) 07:42, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Duplication
Diseases like cholera & typhoid are covered both in this article and at Travellers'_diarrhea. Others, such as dysentery, are covered in only one but would make sense in the other too. Some, like malaria, dengue & zika have both their own articles and fairly long summary text here.

Clearly it would make for easier maintenance & more consistent text if some of the duplication were removed. But how? & would that benefit travellers? Pashley (talk) 14:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

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So much more famous?
Are any of these other Troys famous compared to the archaelogical site in present-day Turkey? Especially since each of them is listed as a "town", and none of them have been the subject of an epic poem or a major motion picture, I think the Troy qualifies as "so much more famous". - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 18:52, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

 * I'd agree. The only one I recognized from the list was Troy (Ohio), and it's not nearly as noteworthy as the site where Brad Pitt and Eric Bana dueled to the death. -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:55, 1 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Same opinion. Eric Bana won, right? -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 18:57, 1 August 2006 (EDT)
 * I recognized Troy (Michigan) because it's in my state, but couldn't tell you anything interesting about it off the top of my head (although I'm sure it's a lovely place). P.S. I think Bana won, but only after he turned big and green and was replaced by a CGI monster..

 * Troy is a archaelogical site. I suspect it will get an article at some point. Toss up for me. If you want to move it back it is okay for me, I guess it is more "famous". As far as listing all the others as a town, that is pretty much the standard for dab pages. Checking it looks like about 3 of them are over 30K with Troy (Ohio) the largest. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 19:25, 1 August 2006 (EDT) opps... I guess it is really Troy (Michigan) as the largest. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 19:29, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

 * Troy is inevitably going to be the subject of an article. I'm not as sure about most of the others; some will, some won't, but they all fall farther out of the spotlight than ancient Troia.  I'm not sure there's really much value in listing them all here pre-emptively (as "towns") on the assumption that every one will be written up; peope can (and will) add them to Troy (disambiguation) when/if they're created. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 19:46, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

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I wasn't sure from this sentence " Visit Trujillo's colonial centre, the Moche Pyramids [4] and El Brujo which should all soon be declared World Heritage sites like Chan Chan with its site museum." If "should" is meant as in "they will be declare" or "I think the should be declared." It might be worth mentioning that this is going to happen, but the personal opinion, valid as it may be, probably doesn't belong. I also wasn't sure what "Chan Chan" was, which probably just shows how much I need to travel more ;-). (WT-en) Majnoona 21:22, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

Added Spanish school - Quite good been there a week - 21:22 23 April 2010 - olie (admin (at) norvan (dot) net)

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Talk:Truro (Massachusetts)

On a search for "Truro", the one in England comes up. I don't know how to change that one to Truro (Cornwall), so that both are shown in results. (WT-en) OldPine 22:08, 2 June 2006 (EDT)
 * The way to do that is to select the "move" option at the top of Truro and rename it. (Although the guidelines say to add the next-highest level of the hierarchy to the name, I'd be inclined to change it to "Truro (England)", because that's distinct enough, and someone searching for that city might not know it's in Cornwall.)  The next step would be to turn the redirect page left at Truro into a disambiguation page so that anyone who types in just "Truro" or links to it will be given a choice of Truros to explore. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:28, 2 June 2006 (EDT)
 * I left out the part about going back to all the places that link to the old Truro article (click "What links here") and changing them to link to the new Truro (England). I'll do that. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 08:58, 3 June 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Tryambakeshwar

According to Wikipedia, Trimbak (or Trimbakeshwar or Triambakeshwar or Triyambakeshwar) is an ancient Hindu temple, but is it big enough to deserve its own article? -- (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 22:19, 5 December 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Tryavna

I am open to suggestions and comments on Tryavna. (WT-en) RobertSullivan1973 09:31, 13 January 2011 (EST)
 * Could use some cafes, bars and clubs =) Also adding some activities would be nice. Another suggestion is to listingify the current listings. I've listingified some listings in the Sleep section, all you need to do is fill in the blanks. Great work! --(WT-en) globe-trotter 01:19, 14 January 2011 (EST)

 * Tryavna is a small town, almost a village. It has no nightclubs that I am aware of. And there are few bars, as such, in Bulgaria becuase every cafe, restaurant and store sells alcohol. But I will continue to tinker with the article. (WT-en) RobertSullivan1973 04:15, 17 January 2011 (EST)

Listings
I have standardized entries under "See", "Buy" and "Eat" using the Listingify format and edited the introduction. I feel the entry is complete, given the size of Tryavna. (WT-en) RobertSullivan1973

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The meal prices for local Mongolian restaurants is too high. I am adding a correction.

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Talk:Tsitsikamma

Please note that some of the information on this page is taken directly from the site http://www.traveltsitsikamma.co.za/ beacuse I am the official public realtions officer for the Cacadu District Municipality and therefore have to use their information on our WikiTravel pages.

The Cacadu district in the Eastern Cape of South Africa includeds Addo, the Baviaans, Grahamstown, Jeffreys Bay & St Francis, the Karoo, the Sunshine Coast and Tsitsikamma

The information also has a Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 2.5 South Africa License.

Location
The ispartof location in garden route appears to be incorrect, (WT-en) ClausHansen 10:45, 23 February 2010 (EST)

A dream came true
During my absence (mostly offline, while traveling remote/rural South Africa) I've seen the work on the Tsitsikamma article. I've wanted to make one as well, though I lacked inspiration. (WT-en) Babbelas 07:43, 6 March 2010 (EST)
 * (WT-en) Lynne did great work, but I see the need for some fine tuning. I see stuff that needs to go to a new article Route 62 of which Langkloof forms the final/eastern part. As the Tsitsikamma article is based on information from the Cacadu Travel website, which puts Tsitsikamma and Langkloof under 1 chapter as those regions form the Kou-Kamma Municipality, though those are totally different environments. therefore a new (WT-en) Route62 is the best way forward. A previous attempt has been deleted before so I started it off in my Sandbox!
 * Different listings need to be moved between the Tsitsikamma and Stormsriver as well.

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I tried to break up the info about the park into different listings, with mixed results. Please feel free to modify. --(WT-en) Evan 10:28, 12 December 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Tuba City

So, this place really is called "Tuba City" on all signage etc, not just "Tuba", hence the name. (WT-en) Jpatokal 17:08, 13 April 2007 (EDT)

Yes, I grew up there and can confirm that the place is called Tuba City. Though Tuba City is on the Navajo Nation it straddles the boarder between the Navajo Nation and the Hopi Reservation, So the English name came from Chief Tuba who was a prominent Hopi Leader and not the Brass Instrument. Interestingly Moenkopi is the name of the Hopi town that adjoins Tuba City which is directly south of highway 160. In Navajo it is called To'naneez'dizi which roughly means "Where the Twisting/Winding Rivers/Creeks meet" but as most people can't pronounce that right efforts to change the towns name has meet great opposition. Source: Life Long Town Resident —The preceding comment was added by 167.211.104.12 (talk • contribs)

 * Great, thanks for reporting on that and welcome to Wikivoyage! I "signed" your post for you. On talk pages, it's customary to sign each post by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end. This makes it easy to see who posted what in discussions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:00, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Tuchola Forest National Park

Name
This article was originally created for Tuchola Forest, which may not be a valid article topic, but mentions Tuchola Forest National Park so I moved it. Now that I'm searching for info on Tuchola Forest National Park I can't find much of anything, so does anyone know if this is a real place? -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:27, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Tucson

ROOSTER COGBURN OSTRICH RANCH
For a great time stop and Feed the Critters at Rooster Cogburn Ostrich Ranch. It is located on Interstate 10 between Tucson and Phoenix. Take Exit #219 and then take the frontage road SE into the ranch. There are ostrich, deer, and Rainbow Lorikeets to feed so there is something for everyone! The ostrich will eat right out of your hand if you are brave enough or there are feed chutes for the more conservative feeders. The deer are so sweet and gently eat from your hand and the kids love them! The Rainbow Lorikeet Forest is a new attraction that is awesome! The small parrots land on your head, hands, and everywhere else and eat nectar out of a cup you hold. There is also shopping for ostrich products, etc., even ostrich eating eggs! A lot of fun for all ages and very affordable. (520) 466-3658. www.roostercogburn.com --- added by some anonymous editor?
 * Ooook... (WT-en) Jordan 16:47, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Banner
The current banner does not depict Tucson but rather the nearby San Xavier Indian Reservation, and doesn't even offer a view of the city. I would like to replace it. Thoughts or objections? –StellarD (talk) 04:36, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The San Xavier Mission is listed first in "See". Perhaps it shouldn't be listed first? Anyway, I think I agree with you that the banner should be changed on the basis that it doesn't depict Tuscon proper. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been undecided for quite some time on where to list the San Xavier Mission. Ideally it should be listed in South Central Arizona, but most traditional guidebooks usually lump it in with Tucson, and many visitors to Tucson consider it to be a highlight of their visit. If I place it under 'go next' it might not be noticed. On the other hand, the mission is about the same distance from Tucson as Saguaro National Park and the Santa Catalina Mountains, which have their own articles. –StellarD (talk) 15:38, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It could be listed in a separate "Outside of town" subsection of "See". Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:27, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Ah, of course! That's so obvious I feel rather silly for not seeing it myself – thanks! :) –StellarD (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
 * No need to feel silly. Glad to help. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:51, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Learn

This college does not offer short courses suitable for travelers, so I've moved it here. –StellarD (talk) 22:43, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Old Pueblo Trolley
The Old Pueblo Trolley has been out of operation since the opening of Sun Link, so perhaps you should remove the picture of it in the "Drink" section.

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Talk:Tuen Mun

This should be merged into the New Territories. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:37, 26 July 2006 (EDT)

Merge
I agree, TM is not of much interest and what is written seems to overstate its merits. I need to write something about the Gold Coast which is near TM and does offer places of interest to travellers.

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Talk:Tuensang

This is just the Talk page. Please make your edits to the article itself. Thanks! (WT-en) Texugo 07:08, 9 April 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Tula

Moscow Times article on Tula, in English: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/beyond_moscow/tula.html

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Talk:Tula Oblast

Will it be ok to make a separate page for Kulikovo Fields or it was made without inside like for reason? 95.25.1.38 13:15, 26 June 2011 (EDT)
 * Perhaps, but only if there is enough information to warrant a full article. Is there anywhere to stay for example? If you think it does warrant a full article, then I would suggest using either the Park Template or Small City Template. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:48, 26 June 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Tulsa

CBGBs in New York ? What in the world is that ? (EditHint: Maybe you could explain that on page New York (city) rather than here on this Tulsa page)

Not sure where these comments should go. I saw nothing under drink but felt McNellie's and Kilkenny's were worth a mention. Also I linked to the list of worst intersections. Expanded on just how bad Tulsa drivers really are. and I added the Scottish event and updated the Conestoga one -- Chris (who is too lazy to create a new wiki account and forgot his login).

 * Good work Chris! You plunged forward and put the information in its place.  If you've got anymore knowledge of the area, we'd love for you to share it! -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 17:42, 23 Sep 2005 (EDT)

--- Uh, I'm not sure if the Tulsa travel guide is really the place for some of this.

''Could you suggest a better place ? See OffTopic''

Could you take a look at the Project:Goals and non-goals? and maybe read some of the other city guides like Geneva to get a feel for things? thanks (WT-en) Majnoona

''Thanks for the links. I found them useful.''

 * you are free to delete anything i wrote.

 * be constructive. If Wikivoyage was only about writing things just to be deleted by others it would be a very poor site. (WT-en) D.D. 00:48, 9 Nov 2003 (PST)

 * Thanks DD. ... (WT-en) Majnoona

''I see that the entry for Portland (Oregon) mentions a wiki. Do you know of any wiki physically located in anywhere in OK ?'' ''I've actually personally seen the computer that the http://suroot.net/ runs on, but I wouldn't call it a tourist attraction. -- (WT-en) DavidCary''

 * Thanks for the tip. I followed the link, determined that there was no travel information, and removed it. This page needs a lot of work -- please plunge forward and give it a hand. --(WT-en) Evan 02:14, 26 Jan 2004 (EST)

---

( please unpack these links ... they point to pages full of links to other pages ... is there any real content at the end of the chain useful to travelers ? ... perhaps some of these go under Oklahoma rather than Tulsa )

Tulsa Events http://tulsaairports.com/tia/tulsa_events.html

Tulsa restaurants http://tulsaairports.com/tia/restaurants.html

Tulsa theatres and cinemas http://tulsaairports.com/tia/entertainment.html

Tulsa museums http://tulsaairports.com/tia/museums.html

---

''I moved this section from the article. While it's historically interesting, does it really help the modern-day traveler to Tulsa? -- DavidCary''

I dont know much about precolumbian times but it lies right on the Arkansas River, which after passing through Arkansas feeds into the Mississippi River, so it is likely many Indians traversed the territory.

In the 1830s however, Andrew Jackson in his infinite wisdom decided to banish the Five Civilized Tribes from Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, Alabama, etc, and move them all into 'Indian Territory'. The Creeks got a portion of the northeastern part of Oklahoma, and named one of the towns after a town they had back in the southeast, Tulsey Town.

In the late 1800s the Dawes Act took away land from the tribal governments, broke the land into sections, and gave those sections to individual tribal members. This left a lot of land free for the whites to take it, and they did.

Then someone found oil in the 'glenn pool', southwest of the City. In the first half of the 20th Century, the majority of the oil (up to 66%) used in the United States was found within a 90 mile radius of Tulsa. Whites flooded into the territory, fortunes were made, the downtown was filled with fancy art deco buildings, and statehood was quickly demanded.

In nearby Osage county, bloodbaths erupted as family fueds and political machinations that would put the Sopranos to shame were carried out at the barrel of a gun over the fortunes buried in the soil.

African Americans also came to Indian Territory and built one of the most prosperous neighborhoods in the area, the Greenwood district, until it was burned down in a race riot instigated by angry whites in 1921, possibly with the assistance of the KKK and definitely with the assistance of the pillars of the white community. To this day Tulsa is segregated into North Tulsa and South Tulsa, and nobody has been punished or arrested, and no reparations have been made, despite the help of Johnnie Cochran and other famous legal fellows.

Tulsa had other businesses, like manufacturing, and helped build everything from planes for the US military to Bama Pies for the US consumer. There is still an oil refinery on the west side of the river, and you can smell it quite often. An oil company took all of its old nation-wide oil pipelines and rights of way and strung communications cable through them to become a telecom company.

''There is often a bad smell along South Elwood Ave. (just S. of the refinery, the first street W of the Arkansas river), but I don't think that's the Sinclair Oil Refinery. And I've never smelled that smell anywhere E of the Arkansas river (the vast majority of Tulsa is E of the river).''

...

Do not go to Turkey Mountain, on the west side of the river. It is way overgrown, and full of weirdos, and the occasional mountain biker. You can get an interesting view of the city from one or two spots but.. it is almost not worth it.

--- Shouldn't this article be a stub? There's not exactly much here... --- just remove it - tulsa isn't worth a dime imo; -hwnd.org --- I think the Flea Market section needs some work. The fairgrounds flea market may be evicted. Also the one on Admiral burned down or at least one of them did. The Great American is still open as far as I know.

Eat

Made massive overhauls to all sections, but a lot in Eat. Section needs a) either a local to put restaurants in their places or b) some massive deletions. There are many, many restaurants listed but should try to focus on only listing those that fit Wikivoyage guidelines.(WT-en) Zepppep 18:20, 27 October 2009 (EDT)

Learn section
I'm putting this here, as it appears to contain nothing relevant for the traveller.(WT-en) Texugo 09:40, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

Learn
Tulsa is just about the largest US city that has no major state/public university. There are two 4 year private universities and a plethora of smaller 2 year commuter colleges and limited-degree-option branches of statewide 4 years colleges such as NSU, OU, OSU, etc. There are also truck driving schools, welding schools, a Vo-Tech, and other technical colleges.

Universities in or near Tulsa:

 * Oklahoma State University  Tulsa branch

 * Oral Roberts University Tulsa is home to educational complex founded and named in honor of televangelist Oral Roberts. The Cityplex Tower there is the second-largest skyscraper in Oklahoma and the architecture and layout of the campus has somewhat of a resemblance to the Government Buildings in Brasilia.

 * Spartan School of Aeronautics

 * Tulsa Community College (4 campuses)

 * Tulsa Technology Center

 * University of Oklahoma Tulsa branch

 * University of Tulsa Private four year University.

John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park
Is it worth a listing? It's mentioned at the end of Tulsa race riot:

A park with statues was dedicated as John Hope Franklin Reconciliation Park on October 27, 2010, named in honor of the notable African-American historian from Tulsa

Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:32, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

June 2024 Teqball Event
From the news article "Major Teqball extravaganza descends upon Tulsa" by FITEQ: "Tulsa, Oklahoma, has been chosen as the exclusive host city for this year's only Teqball event in the United States. The one-of-a-kind sporting spectacle that will combine the thrill of Teqball with the vibrant energy of Tulsa will be held from June 14 to 16. Although the action will take place in Tulsa, the energy certainly won’t stop at the city limits as international TV and media will be onsite amplifying the tournament through a global broadcast."

Thanks for reading,

-- Apisite (talk) 20:32, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Tulum

I'm curious about the comment under places to stay that talks about electricity provided by a generator and thus turned off after midnight. Granted, I did not stay at that same place, I stayed slightly further south down the road at a place that strictly rented cabanas, but my understanding was that there had been some kind of discussion/agreement/vote by inhabitants along the Tulum coastline, with general consensus that they didn't want to turn into a bright-lights-all-night hotspot (like Cancun just north), so they used solar power; thus where I stayed the electricity was on each evening until it ran out, then off till the sun came up again. Also, I wonder whether it is appropiate (and am a little unsure about phrasing) to warn travelers that (some?) taxi drivers and (some?) restaurants have agreements established directing passengers/customers to each other. (My friend and I took a taxi into town looking for a particular restaurant highly recommended in our guide book. The taxi driver claimed never to have heard of the restaurant; he drove us around a couple blocks "looking for" the restaurant then dropped us off beside a restaurant he recommended - and had business cards for - several blocks from the taxi stand.  We decided to look for our restaurant for a couple minutes and found it...directly beside the taxi stand!  The restaurant he recommended might have been fine, but if you want to go some place in particular, it's helpful to know that you may have to find it on your own... (WT-en) Kengwen 17:40, 19 February 2007 (EST)

sleeping options have a poor price-performance?
Is that still the case and can that be said generally?

That sentence was added into the 'Sleep' section in February 2012. Flightnavigator (talk) 19:05, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Featured article?
We have not featured many Mexican or Latin American articles for some time, and this article is at guide level. Would it be a Destination of the Month, or Off the Beaten Path? And what additions would be needed for featuring? /Yvwv (talk) 14:49, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Tumbuka phrasebook

Translations
193.220.223.241 has made some very good additions and corrections and has standardised the spellings. But I'm not sure what is meant by "character" given as the translation of "nkalo". Is this really an important word? In what context is it used? Also why are the words for "sister" and "brother" only appropriate to be spoken by a man? What would a woman say instead? And does "agogo" only refer to an old woman or can it apply to an old man?

I think there are enough greetings, verbs and animals now. But the page could do with more numbers (hundred? thousand?), as well as more questions and grammar rules. - (WT-en) Trezatium 13:55, 4 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * My thanks also to Mr/Ms/Mrs 193.220.223.241, but the phrasebook really should be converted to use the standard Project:Phrasebook template. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:00, 6 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * I created this phrasebook because I couldn't find anything similar on the web. I'm far from an expert on Tumbuka, and just added some of the basic vocab I picked up in Zambia.

 * The guide was only intended to enable someone visiting the region to be polite by exchanging greetings. Many people in this region speak English anyway, and just about all of them speak some other indigenous language such as Chichewa, so a good knowledge of Tumbuka is not essential for the short-term visitor.

 * But I expect it is possible to create a guide to Tumbuka using the standard template, and I'd like to see it done. Only perhaps the list of animals could be preserved somewhere else on Wikivoyage or Wikipedia? It would be a shame to lose it. And it might be useful to adapt the template to suit the environment in which the language is spoken, particularly the food and drink section.

 * Do you think it's a good idea to convert the page straight away? I've just about exhausted my knowledge of the language, so unless anyone else can supply a lot of vocab right away the guide will be full of gaps, and will probably be less interesting and helpful than it is at the moment. (WT-en) Trezatium 15:48, 7 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * Clarification: There are many people in this region who do not speak very good English. What I meant was that a visitor to the region would encounter mostly English speakers when visiting the venues (hotels, bars, bus stations, etc.) in which they would use the kind of phrases included in the standard template. And anyone wishing to chat with a farmer in a rural village would need an entirely different set of vocabulary. But of course that is true for many countries. (WT-en) Trezatium 16:26, 7 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * The template is just a basis for starting articles, you are welcome to modify or extend it in any direction you see necessary. But yes, I think it should be converted now — any gaps can be filled by other speakers of the language. (WT-en) Jpatokal 19:46, 7 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * I just templatized it. Anything I wasn't sure where to put, I left. -(WT-en) phma 08:19, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

 * I'll tidy it up as best I can, using the Chichewa phrasebook as a guide. (WT-en) Trezatium 14:22, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

Pronunciation
"soft" and "hard" are meaningless as applied to vowels. (The term is used in Russian to refer to palatalization of adjacent consonants, but is not a general linguistic term; the same thing is called "wide" or "narrow" in Gaelic.) The vowel in "cat" is not common in languages with only five vowels; should it be "father"? English "oo" (which can be either of two sounds, not counting odd spellings like "door" and "blood") and French "u" are different sounds. Could you fix it if necessary? -(WT-en) phma 08:19, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

You're right, the pronunciation guide is not accurate. For example, "yayi" definitely uses a similar sound to "father" or "car". I'm not certain about the best way to describe the "u" sound in phrases like "muli uli", but will try to find out. (WT-en) Trezatium 15:36, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

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Externl links
I have removed the external links section per the new Project:Templates and Project:External links. Most of the links were external guides anyway. If there is an official site for the city it could be added back in the Understand section along with general contact info for the tourism office. Thanks! (WT-en) Majnoona 10:10, 24 Jan 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Tunica

I removed the notice since there's an "outline" one already at the bottom of the page. See article status for more details. --(WT-en) Evan 13:05, 9 Jan 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Tunis

Table of contents
Why is the table of contents placed to float on the left? It's non-standard (better let the CSS handle this) and looks like crap on my browser. (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:43, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)

Kerkoune!
I noticed a link to an article about a place called Kerkoune at the bottom of the page. There is no such place. Correct spelling is KERKOUANE with an 'A'. Left a note on Discussion page of article. I'm a regular wiki editor over on the Welsh wikipedia but have no user account here, just passing by. Please move "Kerkoune" to its correct page (and correct "Punis" to 'Punic'!). 88.111.216.15 16:57, 2 April 2007 (EDT)

Grande Mosquée Zitouna visitable?
This seems self-contradictory. Can the mosque be visited or not?

''Modest dress essential, but non-Muslims can only enter a viewing platform on the edge of the courtyard (3 TND), not the mosque itself. Closed to visitors after the 2010 revolution.''

Was it temporarily or permanently closed? If no-one can visit or Muslims can no longer enter the viewing platform, that needs to be clearly stated. On the other hand, if the closure after the revolution was temporary, it probably doesn't even bear mentioning at all. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:49, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Learn
I'm fixing the issues mentioned in Destination_of_the_month_candidates and am now looking at the Learn section. Ikan suggested that this section should be listified, but there are some problems. First, the American school that is mentioned doesn't apparently have any short courses, it's just a K-12 school for expats' children. Then we have the Language Academy, which doesn't seem to exist any longer. So, I'd either just shorten it to "If you would like to study Arabic or French while in Tunis, there are a few options, including some language schools, or private tutors." or just axe the Learn section. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:01, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

 * If we don't have any specifics, maybe it's best to axe the section for now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:03, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ ϒpsilon (talk) 14:07, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Hotel Majestic?
Hotel Majestic (Tunis) is mentioned at Grand_old_hotels but there seems to be no listing here to link to. Pashley (talk) 04:10, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Tunisia

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Tunisia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Language of signs
Could somebody in the know add to the "language" section a line about whether road signs etc. are in Latin characters (French) as well as Arabic?

Contributors from Tunisia ??
Hello Everyone,

Is anyone else currently living in Tunisia working on updates / additions to the Tunisia Section??

I'm living in Carthage and have 2+ years of travel in Tunisia, maps, lots of photos etc. I plan to add to this section. Is anyone else doing this now??

Thanks! (WT-en) TerryKing 12:45, 1 January 2007 (EST)

Dictatorship or Republic?
I'm about to add the quickbar to the DE version of this article. The DE article states that Tunisia is a republic, while this article states the government is a dictatorship. Which assessment is accurate? -- (WT-en) Sapphire 20:33, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

 * If one calls a spade a spade, it's a dictatorship. But like Wikipedia we've always listed it as a Republic until a month ago. -- (WT-en) Colin 20:49, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

 * "Dictatorship" is a little too harsh, as there is a token amount of opposition allowed. But it's hardly a model of democracy either. (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:54, 19 September 2006 (EDT)
 * So is there an appropriate term for a democratic dictatorship? -- (WT-en) Sapphire 20:56, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Frankly, there is no one-two word description of the Tunisian government that will look anything other than ridiculous. I think we should drop this "government type" charade off the quickbar and either discuss the government (insofar as it is relevant to travelers) in the understand section or just let anyone interested click on the link to Wikipedia's article. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:58, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

 * Best not to make that judgment in wikivoyage. This sort of thing just leads to unnecessary bother. People would start arguing that the US does not have a fair system of elections and thus does not qualify as a true democracy. Precisely the reason why the Talk Politics branch on Thorntree was shut down. I'm with (WT-en) Peter that the 'government type' be dropped completely.--(WT-en) Wandering 10:55, 18 July 2007 (EDT)

Visa
The information that EU citizens do not need visa to enter Tunisia is not accurate - e.g. individual travelers from Czech Republic have to have visa and I think this might apply also for other new EU countries.

Ukrainian citizens need visa for business travel, for the tourist reason can come without visa, just showing tourist voucher on the Passport Control point. Allowed stay up to 30 days. I don't known about EU, but think that same rule for the EU citizens --93.73.181.231 13:24, 22 February 2010 (EST)

The visa section has many inaccuracies. It'd be better if it's blanked altogether than have it confuse or mislead travelers. See http://www.tunisia.org.ua/ae/travelling/visa/ for many discrepancies.

 * Thanks for the link, but it would be even better if you would plunge forward and fix the section.

Visa external link
I added a link to website that I considered as very relevant about visa requirement and it was removed. I would like to know if there is particular reason for that and if there is way to present this information in an acceptable way.

 * The revert of your edit links to our external links policy, which explains why the link is inappropriate. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:42, 7 February 2010 (EST)

Customs Policy
Can anyone tell my about Customs policy about alcohol? I want to import some strong alcohol as gift for my Tunisian friend when arrive in Tunisia on vacation. --93.73.181.231 13:31, 22 February 2010 (EST)

Regions
Tunisia is not very big, but it is a popular travel destination for Europeans. The vast majority of tourist nights are spent in the northeast and east coast resorts (I just read that 95% of hotel beds in the country are on that coastal strip). I am thinking three regions might be enough:

 * The north - Tunis, Carthage and the main resort towns (I would imagine this accounts for nearly all visits to the country)
 * Central - From Sfax down to Berba island, Medenine and the inland oasis towns.
 * The Saharan south.

Help required to figure this out.

Do we have any Wikivoyagers who have been there? Sort of place I might have been dragged as a child, but I wasn't!--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:22, 10 March 2010 (EST)

 * Also help please with the out of control list of cities and ODs (which are mostly towns or cities anyway).--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:51, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

 * I suspect there is not much interest in Tunisia at WT these days. That was certainly not the case once as there is a relatively very large amount of content. For the record I have removed the following cities to get the list down to 9:
 * Bizerte
 * La Goulette
 * Hammamet
 * Nefta

 * And the following ODs removed (they are all towns except Jugurtha's Table which is an attraction not an article.
 * Jugurtha's Table — a large mesa with a moon like surface and deep crevasses in the northwest of the country (under Get Out section of El Kef).
 * Skanes pronounced "SKAH-nis" Midway between Sousse and Monastir. Fairly quiet resort but ideal as a base for the 2 towns.
 * Sidi Bou Said — picturesque seaside town of white houses with blue doors and shutters.
 * Port El Kantaoui — a popular tourist destination in Tunisia, north of Sousse.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:09, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

Here is my suggested region scheme:

It makes sense to me from the reading I have done, but I must stress I know very little about Tunisia. So comments please.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 06:26, 19 March 2010 (EDT)

 * 16 days since I posted the proposed region scheme, the map has been up for comment for a week, and no interest. I will therefore regionalise as per the proposal.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:04, 26 March 2010 (EDT)

Changes to travel warning

 * I made some minor grammatical changes to the red travel warning banner at the top of the page.

(WT-en) midnightreport 17:54, 25 January 2011 (EST)

Bouazizi Cart Statue Unveiled
Unveiled in Sidi Bouzid to honor the dead fruitseller. --(WT-en) CurvyEthyl 13:09, 17 December 2011 (EST)

FCO: Tunisia
For reference: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/tunisia ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 14:07, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I recently added some info about the risk of terrorism in Tunisia to Tunisia. Should we add a warning box? ϒpsilon (talk) 14:24, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * A warning box seems appropriate, yes. JuliasTravels (talk) 11:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Tunku Abdul Rahman National Park

The content that was here before was copied from here. SabahTravelGuide.com has a copyright claim -- "All Rights Reserved". If it's OK to copy this information to Wikivoyage, we need a statement to that effect.

Mr. Copyright Bummer strikes again, I'm afraid. --(WT-en) Evan 02:28, 4 Feb 2004 (EST)

Coral
"Where there was coral it has been trampled and stolen by the hordes of Chinese visitors." Lol! That is too funny.Lazarus1255 (talk) 18:05, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

 * You left out the rest of the sentence. Nice run-on: "Where there was coral it has been trampled and stolen by the hordes of Chinese visitors it is very crowded and not at all relaxing." I guess this article will need some editing... Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:15, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

 * Ha, yes. Lazarus1255 (talk) 19:03, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:Tunku Abdul Rahman National Park