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User talk:(WT-en) Papakias

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 16:03, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paparomeroalpha

Hello Paparomeroalpha! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. Hi, I'm Edmontonenthusiast and I hope you have a fun time editing with us! If you have any questions you could try me or someone like Cacahuate or WindHorse! :) Have fun!  Keep smiling, (WT-en) Edmontonenthusiast 00:05, 28 October 2008 (EDT)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User talk:(WT-en) Papavero Villa Rentals

Please see Wikivoyage's guidelines for hotel marketers. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:07, 25 March 2011 (EDT)

 * I'd like to re-iterate that you should read the guideline above. Also see Wikivoyage's guidelines on rental listings.  Copying the same promotional listing to multiple articles, particularly one for a rental service, is strongly discouraged. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:37, 4 April 2011 (EDT)


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User talk:(WT-en) Papetti

Hello Papetti!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Panama. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:12, 2 Apr 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Papuaadventure

Hello Papuaadventure! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you have any questions ask me, please! Keep smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 19:25, 18 November 2008 (EST).

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User talk:(WT-en) Papyain

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -(WT-en) Todd VerBeek 07:56, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Par5events

Welcome
Hello, Par5events! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your contributions, but please have a look at Project:Welcome, business owners and Project:External links. Our external link policy is fairly strict, so linking to other travel guides is discouraged. You're welcome to add content about rafting and other adventure sports to our guides, however. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:18, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Hello again - unfortunately your contributions have been reverted en masse. Wikivoyage is primarily meant for travelers, not business advertising, and while we welcome contributions from business owners we ask that those contributions conform to our policies.  Please have a look at the guidelines mentioned above as well as Project:Don't tout - edits which appear to be touting are generally immediately removed.  If you have questions you can respond on this talk page, on the talk page of the relevant policy page, or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:38, 21 October 2009 (EDT)

To User: Wrh2|Ryan - Hey there...a couple of questions. 1) Can you explain where I "touted" any more than the other Galapagos Islands providers under the Island Hoping section? Our listing for ROW (which is something I think a good travel guide would have us first) was one of the first listed on WikiTravel and we are the only company on earth that has the permit to do the things we do.  It's what we are famous for and I'm only being honest.  Not "touting".  2) Can we no longer link words? 3) Above I see that you mistakenly thought I linked to a "travel guide". This is not correct.  When I linked to Trusted Adventures...that is a well respected adventure travel alliance...it is not a "travel guide" at all.  So what would you have me do? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Par5events (talk • contribs)

 * Did you read the Project:Don't tout guidelines? Changing a list of tour operators that is in alphabetical order to put your listing first definitely seems like a questionable practice, as you did here.  Similarly, the guidelines linked to above are pretty clear about not using Wikivoyage for promotional purposes - this site is a travel guide, not an advertising brochure, so the fact that every edit you've made here is promoting a specific business has raised some eyebrows among editors.  You're welcome to contribute, but please read Project:Don't tout and Project:Welcome, business owners to get a better understanding of what this site is all about.  As to "link words" and the "travel alliance" site, see Project:External links, which explains how and when to use external links - that policy is also prominently linked from the edit screen just above the "Save Page" button on the edit screen.  -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:02, 18 December 2009 (EST)

To User: Wrh2|Ryan - Just made an update on whitewater sports. Can you check it out and see if it's ok. I've read all of the rules and think I'm in compliance now. Thank you!

To User: Wrh2|Ryan - I also added a listing to "Ecuadors" page under "Tour Operators". Can you please check that out and make sure it is ok? I just want to do it right. Thank you!

 * I think the key thing to get across is please don't use Wikivoyage for advertising. If your company runs great tours to the Galapagos and you want to put a listing in that article, add an informational listing that is within the guidelines mentioned previously.  However, if you've read Project:Don't tout you'll also note that a key guideline is "don't copy your listing into multiple articles" - adding listings to Ecuador and South America is spammy, is not valuable for travelers, and makes your company look bad in the eyes of other editors.  In general listings for tour operators are not one of the more valuable features of our guides - we'd rather tell travelers about a destination and give them the info they need to take a tour on their own - but we also recognize that there are some places (like the Galapagos) where they are necessary and so we want to provide information to allow visitors to make educated choices. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 00:58, 26 December 2009 (EST)

Tour listings
Please read our policy: Tour, in particular, no tour listings should go in the country/region/continent articles - tour agencies are only allowed in cities where they have an actual physical real world office. Furthermore we only allow tour companies that offer activities travellers cannot do by themselves - hikes for is often perfectly feasible to do on your own, while river rafting for example is not. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 21:59, 25 December 2009 (EST)

Ok...I'm super confused then. What about "Grand Canyon"...? There are "tour operators" listed there? Why are some place ok to have a "tour operator" section and other place/locations are not? 90% of those companies listed under the "Grand Canyon" do not have a "physical location". I think you guys should implement a rule to allow tour operators to list their companies underneath a section called "Tour Operators" at the bottom of locations. Seems to me like you let it pass in some places and you don't in others.

 * We have thousands of new listings every week to patrol. You will certainly find others that do not comply with Wikivoyage policy as we sometimes miss them. That does not change the policy. As for Grand Canyon, those you mention will be evaluated and deleted if appropriate. Thanks. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:13, 26 December 2009 (EST)

 * Most of the listings for Grand Canyon tour operators are those offering rafting, flightseeing, or helicopter tours; that falls into the "you can't do this on your own" category outlined in the tour listing policy. Even so, the list in the Grand Canyon article is getting spammy and will probably need to be trimmed down.  At the risk of endlessly repeating, do not use Wikivoyage for advertising - we recognize that in rare cases tour operators are necessary and/or popular, so current policy is designed around removing them in the 95% of cases where they are simply business advertising and of no real use in a travel guide while trying to allow the 5% that are actually useful. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:05, 26 December 2009 (EST)

Here we are again...under Grand Canyon you allow certain tour operators but it seems like you are not allowing others to add themselves anymore to the list. ?? Seems like you have an agenda here. What needs to happen for other companies to be listed? Why are these companies allowed?

 * The "agenda" here is to write guides that are useful for travelers. You're welcome to read the tour listing policy and the discussions that led to its creation and propose any changes you feel are necessary. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:50, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * Since no one involved in Wikivoyage makes a dime of it, the agenda your implying is, well, laughable to be blunt. The questions you need to ask yourself is:
 * Do I offer a value added activity like rafting or paragliding which travellers can not do by themselves?
 * Is it operated by my own company (no resellers)?
 * Do I have a physical office at the location that customers can walk in to?
 * Have I read and understood tour, welcome business owners and don't tout?
 * If you can answer all questions in the affirmative, feel free to add your listing, otherwise don't. If you find any listing that doesn't follow these guidelines, by all means, help us get rid of them. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:54, 22 February 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Para83

Hello Para83! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

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User talk:(WT-en) Paradajz

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Cacahuate 12:03, 13 January 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paragkan

Hello Paragkan! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your edits to Singapore! I hope you understand that I'm keeping a very tight watch on the writing style though, since this is published monthly. See Project:Tone, particularly the part about not using "one", as one finds that one's overuse can sound awkward to one. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:10, 6 April 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paragoncityhotel

Hello, Paragoncityhotel! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Do not use Wikivoyage for spamming your business and ruining other pages. Please see Welcome, business owners and don't tout. Thanks in advance. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 07:01, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

Spamming
I see you have ruined many other policy pages as well. Stop advertising your business and ruining Wikivoyage policy pages right now, as you might risk being banned. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 07:31, 30 September 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paragonworld

Hello Paragonworld!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Ottawa. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:40, 5 Mar 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paranoid

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for plunging forward so far. If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful.

You should also make sure you understand our copyleft and policies and guidelines. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on the talk page for the most appropriate article.

A couple of additional points: you may be interested in some of the links off the privacy rights page here (like http://www.publaw.com/photo.html and http://www.photosecrets.com/p14.html_, which list some best practices for travel photographers. In addition, our goals and non-goals are pretty clear in that we target print production of our guides (as well as Web production), and I don't see that changing any time soon.

Thanks for your contributions so far. --(WT-en) Evan 18:08, 15 Nov 2004 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parimucha

Welcome, and some words about external links
Hello, and welcome to Wikivoyage! Your helpful edits are much appreciated, but there are some guidelines on this site about external links that I'd like you to please look at. In particular, some sites should not be linked to. Triptomatic, since it is a trip planning site, is a competitor of this guide, and would therefore be included among sites that should not be linked here. What should be linked are official sites for those attractions that have them.

Thanks a lot, and if you have any questions, please feel free to ask them either here or at the Travellers' Pub.

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:01, 25 November 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parindshah

Hello Parindshah! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) Texugo 02:35, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parkcity Everly Hotel Miri

Welcome
Hello, Parkcity Everly Hotel Miri! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please note that Wikivoyage should not be used for advertising. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:27, 20 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Hi! Immediately stop touting our Miri article and see wbo. (WT-en) jan 05:37, 20 September 2010 (EDT)


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User talk:(WT-en) Park-Hyatt-Saigon

Hi! Please don't tout, see wbo and only list your business once (either hotel or spa or restaurant NOT all). (WT-en) Jc8136 07:41, 25 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parkscanada

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

While creating a page for Parks Canada is helpful, a page such as Web does not contribute to Wikivoyage's goals. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 12:59, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parksidecabins

Hello, Parksidecabins! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Spamming our help pages is not a good idea, and may get your domain blacklisted - affecting your search engine rankings. If you need to practice, please use our Graffiti wall instead. And while you're at it, you will probably benefit from reading our don't tout policy, and our welcome page for business owners. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 14:34, 6 May 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parlin

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 02:03, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) PartyPete

Never substitute your listing for a competitor's
That's contemptible, and if you do it again, your account will be blocked. Also, stop touting!

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 18:33, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Was not substituting my listing for another. That was the old name of the taxi company. Changed name to LBI Exxpress when I took it over.

 * In that case, why didn't you indicate that in your editing summary? Also, why are you trying to post two entries? You can't have more than one site-wide. Read dt, please. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 19:24, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

Sorry this is all new to me. Was trying to list new name and phone number of business since the Ace van and cab service is old and not in service anymore. The phone number is also old and belongs to some other business. Do you want me to edit one more time since I see changes that I made are not on page? Thanks.

 * Sure, but the result has to be only one listing, and you need to say something like "taxi company has new name and telephone number" in your editing summary. And do read dt beforehand, lest your phrasing may fall afoul of those guidelines. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:47, 23 April 2012 (EDT)

Listed us under taxis as we do have a web-site and wanted that link. Left Ace Van and Cab service alone as that is an old name and phone number that I assume old owner listed. Again, thanks for your patience as this is my first time working with Wikivoyage and hopefully this is ok.

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User talk:(WT-en) Parviz Rostamnezhad

Hello, Parviz Rostamnezhad! Welcome to Wikivoyage. I reverted your entries in our template. Please us your user page for your presentation.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) jan 10:19, 18 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parvo

Welcome
Hello, Parvo! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your additions, but please have a look at Project:External links. Site guidelines are that external links should be minimal, and links to other guides are explicitly cited as something NOT to include in articles so the links you've added will probably be removed. Other additions are very welcome, however, and hopefully we'll see further contributions from you on these northern cities. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:21, 16 October 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Parwana47

Hello, Parwana47! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Hi. sorry I just had to revert your edit on the Itineries page. This is a template page and is not meant to be used for guide content. However, feel free to use this on your own (WT-en) user page. You may also want to have a read of our advice for tourism professionals. - (WT-en) Nrms 04:17, 16 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pascal Brackman

Welcome to Wikivoyage!
Hi Pascal Brackman!

I thought I'd just drop by and welcome you to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences.

Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki software look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on my talk page. -- (WT-en) Tim 12:30, 28 August 2006

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User talk:(WT-en) Paschberg

Hello, Paschberg! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Globe-trotter 08:59, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

Innsbruck
Nice work on Innsbruck! It's much appreciated.--(WT-en) Globe-trotter 09:47, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

 * @globe-trotter Thank you for the warm welcome. Recently I have tried to correct some of my terrible english mistakes in my text contributions.

 * Thanks for the fixes! But don't let it discourage you from adding more information, other people can easily fix spelling mistakes as well :) --(WT-en) Globe-trotter 15:00, 24 November 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pascual

Hello Pascual!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing an image of Palma de Mallorca cathederal. You might like to read the Project:Image policy. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:54, 23 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pasd

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for plunging forward so far. If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful.

You should also make sure you understand our copyleft and policies and guidelines. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on the talk page for the most appropriate article.

I was glad to see your editorial contributions. Wiki pages can get convoluted, and it's good to clarify the language. I hope you take the time to fix more pages like that! --(WT-en) Evan 13:59, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pasha

Hello, Pasha! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contributions to Sergiev Posad! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:05, 28 May 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paskari

Hello and welcome to wikivoyage. Please spare a moment to view our copyleft but plunge forward and edit some articles. Scanning the article templates and the manual of style can give you an idea of how we like our articles to be formatted. Check out Project:Help and if some info in not on there, ask at the travellers' pub. Please add your name to the list of wikivoyagers. Wikivoyagers often use their own jargon to communicate, so getting a hang of it will help. Please sign all your comments using ~ — you'll find the key below the Escape button near the top left corner of your keyboard. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 07:53, 9 March 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) PasoRoblesHotel

Please note that use of Wikivoyage for marketing is strongly discouraged. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:40, 25 February 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) PasoRoblesInn

Don't tout
This is not a site for free advertising. You cannot use any page, including your user page, to advertise. Please read wbo.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 19:22, 24 February 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pasqualelomascolo

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) - Cacahuate 21:57, 19 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pasquino

Hello Pasquino! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

I've responded to your comment at Talk:Rome, and look forward to seeing your detailed proposal. Also, you can automatically sign and date your comments by adding four tildes ( ~ ). --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:53, 19 October 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Passagesnepal

Please note that use of Wikivoyage for advertising and marketing is strongly discouraged. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:17, 22 July 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pastorcollins

Welcome
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Don't tout
Hi. Please read dt, tour, and Project:What is an article? Also, please reply to this message, to show that you are not a spambot. Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 23:36, 19 April 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Pat123

If you are not the same person as User:(WT-en) Kusmae, please read all of the advice and comments placed that that user's talk page. The same applies to content you are placing here. Thanks.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:12, 19 May 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patbs1

I removed the links to the guide in your edits for Leura per our link policy.

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--(WT-en) OldPine 21:52, 21 November 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patch051

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User talk:(WT-en) Pateluday

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I had big troubles getting Wikivoyage to accept articles about lakes. Rivers are definitely out. Please insert observations about Narmada in city or town articles. There is already a lengthy article about the river in Wikipedia. (WT-en) Shep 14:41, 23 March 2010 (EDT)

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Contributions from this account appear to have been made from a spambot. If there is in fact a real user operating this account please respond on this talk page, otherwise this account may be permanently blocked after any future contributions. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:33, 26 April 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patkica

Здраво Паткица! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) PatLurcock

Welcome
Hello Pat! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks so much for plunging forward so far! South Georgia is one of my absolute favorite places in the world, so it's great that we can have someone contributing with such detailed knowledge! Now here's the boilerplate welcome:

If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful. You should also make sure you understand our copyleft and policies and guidelines. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on the talk page for the most appropriate article.

Once again, thanks for your contributions thus far, and hopefully we'll see more. -- (WT-en) Ryan 16:37, 4 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * I'm also excited to see that you'll be contributing. --(WT-en) Evan 17:11, 4 Dec 2005 (EST)

Thanks for the encouragement and particularly the pointers to the useful hints. Please excuse any transgressions while I assimilate it (and feel free to gently point out any). We have only just got net access here so I am learning a lot of stuff all at once, as well as trying to hand over to Emma Jones, who will be the second Govt. Officer over the next couple of years. Anything in particular anyone wants to know? If so I can do that first. Pat.

 * You're doing great so far -- any and all information you can add is much appreciated, and someone will always be able to clean up any formatting errors (you haven't made any so far, but everyone does so don't worry about them). As to anything people particularly want to know, info such as whether there is now any publicly available internet access would be useful to me, and further details on how people can visit the island (especially other than on a large cruise ship) would be great.  That said, you know the place best, so anything you feel is useful and are willing to add would be great.

 * Will you still be at KEP in January? I'll be visiting on the Polar Star and would love to say hello. -- (WT-en) Ryan 19:36, 5 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Sorry, no, I'm off north for my hols next week, home in the UK for Christmas, and then hopefully Norway, Svalbard, Pyrenees for some snow. Emma will be in the chair until I get back in April and then we both work the busy winter fishing season. Still, say hello to Emma.

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User talk:(WT-en) PatMustard

Hello, PatMustard! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Please also pay special attention to our policy on not touting and words to avoid, use your energy on providing neutral information on the hotel, and not how fabulously luxuriously conveniently privileged the hotel is situated. Don't say a hotel is perfect, it's most definately not, of the 100's hotels I've stayed at, which includes fantastic classics like Raffles and the Four Seasons, I've yet to run into a hotel where everything was perfect, so cut the hype yeah? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 04:47, 22 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patongtraveller

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User talk:(WT-en) Patricia Bromirsk

Hello Patricia! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Please be aware that blatant advertising is not one of Wikivoyage's purposes. The real-estate advertisement on your (WT-en) User Page has been hidden for this reason. We would welcome your contribution to travel related articles such as Ipanema, Zona Sul, Rio de Janero and Brazil to explain why people should travel there. Nice places to live can be found almost anywhere in the world. Please tell us why people should travel to your part of the world, and where they can stay for a couple of days before they move on, not that you just have a place to let (presumably forever).

By the way: Wiki's almost never forget anything unless they are told to. Placing your personal contact details on this website means they are here in the page history until your user page is deliberately deleted by an administrator. If your flat is let you cannot subsequently remove your advertisement - only hide it from immediate view. -- (WT-en) Huttite 18:47, 7 May 2004 (EDT)

 * Totally agree. This is very easily spin out of control. --(WT-en) Nzpcmad 04:03, 8 May 2004 (EDT)

 * I somewhat disagree. Blatant advertising about places to eat drink and sleep is one of our goals insomuch as it serves the traveler.  Patricia's listing was way off of our Project:Manual of style but nonetheless was a listing for a place to sleep.

 * Now it's quite possible that she means to rent this out long term rather than short term, which would make it not appropriate anymore, but we just don't know that. Did anybody bother to ask her before just blanking the page?

 * As for the contact details, if you look at the Project:Manual of style for sleep listings they are in there, even the email. We all know that having her email published here will increase her spam load, but I think we should offer advise on that sort of thing, not scolding. -- (WT-en) Mark 05:25, 9 May 2004 (EDT)

 * Uh, I'm not sure if the MoS applies to how user's use their user pages... I think it's more a general-use, or even a bandwidth use, issue. What if she put up an ad for a non-travel thing? Would that be OK since it's "her" page or a mis-use of wikivoyage servers and bandwidth? This really isn't a "sleep" listing, it's not part of an article, but the issue of proper user-page use needs to happen (elsewhere)... too bad we have to spell things like this out... (WT-en) Majnoona 15:52, 13 May 2004 (EDT)

 * My point wasn't in regard to wether or not she's using the page right, nor for that matter wether this is a correct sleep listing. Obviously it isn't where it is.  That said we do often use user pages for developing stuff before putting it out into the correct article.

 * It's pretty clear that this is in fact an unwanted contribution. Fine, I still think new contributors should be given the benifit of the doubt, at least until they prove that they can't be reasoned with, and don't intend to make any wanted contributions.  If that means putting up with somebody's stupid apartment ad for a couple of days, fine by me.

 * As for this particular user, at least she's (inadvertently) provided us with an opportunity to discuss this issue. -- (WT-en) Mark 15:41, 17 May 2004 (EDT)

Apartment listing
Patricia: I've moved your apartment listing to the Rio de Janeiro (city)/Zona Sul page. --(WT-en) Evan 14:06, 18 May 2004 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrick

Hello, Patrick! Welcome back to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

It's been a while since you've been on Wikivoyage -- I wonder what you think about the changes! --(WT-en) Evan 08:47, 28 Feb 2004 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrick-777

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The general consensus on Wikivoyage is not to include things like city crests in articles, on the grounds that it really doesn't provide useful information for the traveler, and it tends to make the article look too much like a Wikipedia article. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 21:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrick.antony

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User talk:(WT-en) PatrickAwart

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Looking forward to your contributions here. --(WT-en) Evan 23:41, 3 Jan 2004 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrick.davey

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Hi Patrick! I read your comment on the talk page of Tramping in NZ. I suggest that you enter the details about the huts in the cooresponding article for the NP that already exists. We have an ok-ish coverage of NZ and i think most huts will fit in the already existing articles. If they are any areas where there are no article feel free to create new ones but only for a hut an article is not justified. There are several Kiwis active at Wikivoyage or discuss in the Travellers Pub. Regards, (WT-en) jan 04:02, 9 February 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrickmacgougan

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Thanks for those edits to Tavistock, but please make sure you upload images to our shared server instead, there is a link on the upload page too --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 12:31, 17 January 2009 (EST)

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D.C. neighborhoods map
Hey Patrick, I'm glad to hear you're finding my map useful. I got a request to break out Kalorama Triangle from Adams Morgan, although I'm personally inclined to still consider it a subset of the latter. Truly, D.C.'s understanding of its neighborhoods is a little too complex to convey in two dimensions!

I actually do get a fair number of requests for higher res versions of that map, so I've gone ahead and uploaded one to Commons, broken thumbnails be damned (hopefully the powers that be over there won't mind). You can find it at commons:File:DC neighborhoods map high res.png. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 12:10, 6 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrickr

Hello Patrickr!

Although you have been here a while, it appears that you have not been formally welcomed to Wikivoyage, until now, that is.

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Thank you for contributing to Durham (North Carolina), Livermore, Berkeley (California), United States of America, Yosemite National Park, Virginia, Discount airlines and Duluth, so far. -- (WT-en) Huttite 01:53, 3 Jul 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patrigg

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User talk:(WT-en) Patriot101112

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Can I help you? What are you trying to do? (WT-en) Jpatokal 14:17, 9 October 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patriots

Welcome
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User talk:(WT-en) Pats127

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Patsummers

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User talk:(WT-en) Pattayagolfer

''This page is for discussing the corresponding article or guide. For questions, comments, or personal stories about this destination or topic, visit Wikivoyage Extra. For more about using talk pages check out Project:Using talk pages.''

Comments
Hello, Pattayagolfer! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Your cannot claim Pattaya for yourself. Our articles are written collaboratively. - (WT-en) Huttite 02:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)

Sex Tourism in Pattaya
Your recent contributions to Pattaya appear to be promoting Sex Tourism, which is against policy. I have edited the LK Soi and other entries. - (WT-en) Huttite 09:10, 30 January 2009 (EST)

 * Sorry there Huttite, I think your edits were a bit too harsh -- current policy is that go-go bars are OK. I've reinserted (and formatted) them.

 * And Mr. Golfer, thanks for your contributions, but you've stumbled onto a bit of a perennial hot topic here; please do feel free to add your two baht over at Project:Sex tourism policy. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:58, 30 January 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Patti

Welcome to Wikivoyage!
Hi Patti! Thanks for your edits on Kalkan!

I thought I'd just drop by and welcome you to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences.

It would be a good idea to have a quick look at our list of tips for newcomers to get a feel for what we are trying to achieve on Wikivoyage, and if you're new to the whole wiki software, also look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup.

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User talk:(WT-en) Pattonius

Temporary storage of a FAQ project is below.

Mount & Blade: Warband Power Start Guide

Introduction:

This guide has been written to provide Mount & Blade: Warband players with an alternative to the "traditional" method of beginning a new campaign. I define traditional as following the tutorial quest with your starting city's merchant and/or immediately recruiting as many troops as affordable and doing quests for lords of your preferred faction. Although this is a fine way to learn the mechanics of the game, I feel it is rather lacking in its ability to make you powerful quickly.

I have worked out a system that, although unorthodox, is most likely already known and used by some veteran players of the game. I've decided to flesh out and publish it for any newcomers or intermediate players looking for a different way to go about playing the campaign.

In brief summary, the Power Start involves recruiting no troops and focusing on levelling up your hero by fighting bandits. The secondary goal is to acquire a healthy sum of denars to be invested in your ideal loadout of weapons, armour and steed. Once you have reached a comfortable level and are satisifed with your inventory, the regular game commences with you enjoying a considerable advantage.

I realize this strategy may not appeal to everyone since it appears to diminish the challenge of a new game. I feel, however, that it replaces the challenge of struggling to raise a small army while poor and weak with that of single-handedly defeating two dozen men in hand-to-hand combat.

And now, the details!

Character Creation:

I'm not going to go into great depth about character creation. Essentially, you can make pretty much any build you want even after character creation is complete. Don't worry too much about making mistakes, since you can alter your hero without crippling them too severely. However, since this guide deals with a fair amount of solo play (as in, no army) there are a few considerations you may wish to make:

Attributes: You're going to start the game by getting into fights, and lots of them. I recommend placing all four starting points into strength for the additional HP and combat abilities. You may wish to alter this and pour them into agility instead if you are planning to be a ranged fighter, but a high starting strength is still a good idea. I say this because arrows are a finite resource, and you will inevitably end up fighting hand-to-hand at some point unless you're a crack shot. I am ignoring intelligence and charisma because party-based skills are useless when your party consists of one angry hero riding around picking fights with dozens of men at a time.

Skills: Since you'll be doing a lot of fighting, you may wish to maximize Iron Skin for the added HP. This could mean the difference between life and death when a Sea Raider plants the eigth consecutive axe into your ribcage. Place the remaining points into your preferred combat skills.

Weapon Proficiency: Place all points into your favourite weapon.

The Beginning:

Slaughter the poor fool who seeks to end your life in the alley and then graciously ignore the merchant's business proposition. It's unlikely you can afford anything, so don't worry about shopping. You now have two options at your disposal. The first is to amass a small fortune and buy the best equipment you can afford. The second is to simply dive right into the fighting and work on your levels. Why do that, however, when you can take a brief detour and come back fully loaded?

Making Money:

The strategy for getting rich quick makes you a bit of a jerk, but the repercussions are negligible. What you want to do is ride to each of the nations you aren't planning to join, locate the King, and ask him for work. If you're lucky, he'll offer the tax collection quest. Accept, and go collect the taxes from his town. Once done, fart in the King's general direction and ride off to the next kingdom a richer hero. The chances are slim you'll get all five tax quests, but with a little luck and about half an hour of your time you will come away with anywhere from 5,000 to 20,000+ denars in your purse. There is no time limit on the tax quest, and if you fail to pay back the King there are no consequences. Telling him you can't do the quest after all will result in a slight relationship decrease that can easily be made up for later on (and is irrelevant if you plan to be at war with his faction). You can even do this to the King you plan to serve if you're truly desperate, but that would make you a scoundrel.

Levelling Up:

Ride back home and visit towns spending like mad on sturdy armour, strong weapons and a faster horse (if you can ride one). Once you are sufficiently transformed into an engine of destruction it is time to wreak havoc on the surrounding countryside. Ride around until you find bands of looters and warm up by soliciting demonstrations of the proper application of medieval weaponry. As you level up, continue to focus on strength/agility and combat skills. If you missed Iron Skin during character creation, now is the time to bring it up to 3 or 4. The extra 6-8 HP will be a lifesaver (literally). Power strike/shot/throw and shield are worthy of bringing up depending on how you fight. Nothing else is really neccessary, but you may wish to consider a point or two in spotting to help locate victims and a few points in trade to increase your profits when selling bandit loot.

Now that you have a few levels under your belt, it's time to start hunting bigger game. Which bandits you target is largely a matter of preference, but I suggest avoiding Steppe and Desert bandits since they tend to ride horses and are a real pain to deal with alone. Mountain bandits in the Rhodok Kingdom aren't too tough and are my typical victims until around level 8. Their hideout is usually up in the mountains and you'll be chased around constantly by roving bands. Start out small (4-6 bandits) and work your way up until you can comfortably best a dozen or more.

At this point you'll probably be tired of mountain bandits, so head down to Swadia by Uxkhal and locate the forest bandit hideout. Forest bandits are lightly-armoured, but wield bows. Keep your shield up and charge them. Once in the thick of things they won't pose much of a threat, and if you wear heavy armour half of their attacks won't even damage you.

You should start considering placing points into other attributes and skills. You'll want to bring up leadership and possibly persuasion in preparation for gathering an army and serving as a vassal. Most other skills can be handled by companions (which you may wish to hire one or two of at this point to share in your levelling). Some to consider are training, looting and any of the medical skills.

Once you reach level 10-11 it's time to change up again and ride out to the Vaegir lands by the coast (near where they border with the Nords). Take your pick of Taiga Bandits and Sea Raiders and go nuts. Sea Raiders are tough and heavily-armoured, but they usually carry the best loot.

The Rest of the Game:

By the time you hit level 15-16 you should be a god-like figure on the battlefield, capable of effortlessly defeating twenty strong men in personal combat. (You'll also be thoroughly bored unless you are extremely patient)! It's now time to start the rest of the game. Ride back to your faction of choice and proceed as you will. Keep in mind that, by now, you should be fairly wealthy and have 200-400+ reknown: more than enough to become a Vassal without doing a single quest.

Tips for Solo Fighting:

Anyone who has played Mount & Blade: Warband for a while has likely become a skilled fighter with at least one or two forms of weaponry out of sheer necessity. Anyone who plays online is likely much better than I am, and will need no advice for fighting the AI (which is widely held as far inferior to even novice human opponents). New players, or anyone used to commanding from the rear may need to make some adjustments to their playing style to stay alive.

The ideal solo battle involves your hero delivering as much damage as possible while remaining out of reach of the enemy. If you are specializing in ranged combat you may be able to eliminate or cripple the enemy before they ever close with you, allowing for an easy mop-up with a melee weapon. Even if you don't enjoy ranged weapons you should still bring along a light crossbow or bag of throwing axes (personal choice, since what's cooler than having half a dozen axes strapped to your body?) at first to soften up the enemy before your charge. Once you are ready to engage up-close it is best to ride at the group of enemies at a diagonal (don't charge into the center unless you're really confident). Try to use a long weapon (my weapon of choice is a Great Long Axe) and slash away as you ride past. Rince and repeat until either everyone is dead or there are few enough foes to allow you to wade in and finish the job. When facing archers keep your shield up until the last possible second.

One annoyance is keeping your horse alive. Against ranged opponents you may find your horse being killed from under you as arrows and javelins turn it into a pincushion. If you can afford to buy and have the skill to ride a heavily-armoured horse this will become less of an issue. If you're a skilled horse archer it likely won't matter since you won't ever be in the same place as their arrows and bolts.

If you prefer to fight on foot rather than horseback you will have a tough time of things. Make sure you have the heaviest armour possible along with a powerful two-handed weapon and a decent weapon proficiency in it. I have the best luck running backwards while taking side swipes at the nearest enemy. If you have a moment to breathe try an over-hand chop at your opponent's head. Even if wearing a helmet they'll likely pay the ultimate price for challenging you.

Don't worry too much if you get overwhelmed and wind up a prisoner of your intended victims. Since you have no troops morale is not much of an issue. You'll just lose some denars and perhaps an inventory item or two (hopefully not your expensive equipment) and wind up escaping after a couple of days at full health. Feel free to attack your captors and teach them a lesson. You should be able to re-claim any lost items of value this way (not confirmed if this is 100% of the time).

Additional Notes:

The benefit of following this strategy is that you will be very strong, well-equipped and have more than a few denars to rub together by the time you become a Vassal. You can immediately begin building an army and not have to worry about being accidentally KO'd while helping them fight. You can get two dozen recruits and take on two dozen bandits with little worry about being overwhelmed if things go poorly. For example, in a recent game as a Viking-style warrior I hired a companion (Artimmener) and 13 Nord recruits then went to work on Sea Raiders. I didn't lose a single recruit (although Artimmener got knocked out in about 10 seconds), and all 13 were ready to level up to Nord Footmen after the battle. I continued this trend until I had 13 Nord Veterans with several ready to become Huscarls. (As an aside, I chose not to promote them to Huscarls as I had not yet joined a faction and was not of noble birth. I figured that, for role-playing purposes, Huscarls would likely not serve with some common-born warrior. I promoted them once I gained a fief and a banner).

Something else to consider after levelling up is to invest in some properties in the cities of your favoured faction. This added income will come in handy once you have 60+ warriors to feed and pay.

You'll want to find some companions, of course. I recommend Lezalit for his training skills and Artimmener for his architectural knowledge. They get along well and will not cause any problems in your party. Alayen makes a good knight and is a prime candidate to hold a fief if you become King. Any other companions are up to you, but I recommend training one of them in medical skills to keep your army alive and well. Remember to keep non-combat-oriented companions at the bottom of the list to lower the risk of them being knocked out in battle. Artimenner can't effectively oversee construction of a manor at your fief when he's lying in a tent with an axe in his face!

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User talk:(WT-en) Patzky99

Hello, Patzky99! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thanks for creating Dubuque, Iowa and Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin — unfortunately, they existed already under Dubuque and Wisconsin Dells respectively. I've merged the articles you created. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:58, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul.

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for uploading your map, but in the future please upload your travel related images to Wikivoyage Shared, our image depository. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 13:49, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

Dalian
The best place for maps if the city can't or shouldn't be broken down into districts is the orientation section. See Edinburgh for a general idea of what should be there. I'd cover important streets, is there a particular district or street that has a high density of tourist attractions or museums? -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 14:39, 21 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Yeah, upload the .svg and .png to Shared. Thanks for all the great work. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 00:44, 23 August 2006 (EDT)
 * You should consider becoming a Project:Docent for Dalian! (WT-en) Maj 16:28, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

First edit, feedback appreciated
Swept in from the Pub — (WT-en) Hypatia 19:14, 10 October 2006 (EDT)

I've just plunged forward and done a major overhaul of the Dalian page. As this is my first go at editing on here I'd appreciate any feedback that could be offered. The major problem at the moment is that the article is far too long (61k). The standard solution is to subdivide into districts, but I'm not at all sure that Dalian is a prominent enough city to warrant subdivision. That tends to suggest that some of the detail should be trimmed down or removed, so I'd appreciate ideas from those not familiar with the city as to what is or isn't likely to be useful. The other issue is that I created maps for the city, but found that the central area was too big to comfortably fit all the detail on one map. I've created a "Maps" section at the bottom (I'll probably add a public transport map and maybe district map later) but I'm sure there must be a more elegant solution, I'm just not seeing it yet. --(WT-en) Paul. 14:23, 21 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Hi Paul, nice work! There's some feedback on the article talk page, but I just wanted to answer the district question here -- it's not really a matter of 'prominence' but what's going to be useful to travellers. If there's enough going on in each area, then it's probably easier for travellers to think in terms of districts rather than have to deal with an unmanagable list of places to go, eat, etc. Again, nice work! (WT-en) Maj 16:27, 21 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Hi, thanks for the positive feedback! Thinking about it dividing into districts is probably the best way to go about it, especially now I've finally found a map showing the district boundaries. I'm working on the maps at the moment, when they're finished I'll get started on the article. Thanks again for the comments. --(WT-en) Paul. 22:43, 22 August 2006 (EDT)

Barnstar
Here's one for you for your map-making efforts! Also, I am planning to nominate Dalian for stardom. Let's see if folks have feedback. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 18:37, 18 November 2006 (EST)

 * I just wanted to let you know that I think you kick ass too! I second the stardom nomination.  It'd be great to for someone else to (WT-en) join the star user club! -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 03:43, 8 December 2006 (EST)

Wales
Hi Paul - the regional maps of Wales look great. Your efforts are commendable. However, I hope you don't mind, but I have moved the town of Knighton from the Mid Wales page to the Powys one. I did this in order to reduce the number of towns on list for Mid Wales to nine as per Wikivoyage policy. And, as Knighton was the least well known (and possibly the smallest) town in the group, that was the obvious choice. Thanks for your efforts. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 06:46, 20 November 2006 (EST)

Glamorgan
One final point - outside of cricket, the county of Glamorgan no longer exists. It has been carved up into boroughs and city/county districts. So, to be precise, one can no longer say that places like Cardiff or Swansea are in Glamorgan. Several years ago, the county was divided into three districts that retained the name Glamorgan - Mid, South and West, but even that has gone. If you'd like more information, check out this Wikipedia article: - sorry to give you a headache. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 06:46, 20 November 2006 (EST)

Mid Wales/Glamorgan
Hi Paul, if it is not difficult to change, then Builth Wells would be a more suitable candidate to include on the map. Knighton is really not a very well known village. However, if it is a hassle, then leave it. There is not too much to choose between those Mid Wales towns and villages. Regarding Glamorgan, I agree, it would be very difficult to do a color-coded map that included the eleven districts that now constitute the old county, so I suggest leaving it. I have written an explanation on the Glamorgan page, please have a look and amend as you see fit. Thanks. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 08:13, 20 November 2006 (EST)

 * The maps not only look great, but are really helpful. Thanks. When I get the chance, maybe I'll try to copy your lead and create one for Swansea. As the city is spread out along coves and bays, places are often difficult to locate, so a color-coded map would be quite useful for travelers. Let's see how time goes. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 08:50, 20 November 2006 (EST)

 * Hi Paul - sorry to give you a headache again, but there are a couple map errors: Newport, Pontypool and Cwmbran were all in the traditional county of Monmouthshire, not Glamorgan. I also need to amend the list of places in Glamorgan as I've just discovered that Blaenau Gwent and Torfaen were in Gwent (the succssor to Monmouthshire), not Glamorgan as I had thought. Apologies (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 21:44, 20 November 2006 (EST)

 * Hi Paul, yes those border changes were quite confusing and actually a few new boroughs seem to have been carved out of traditional areas that were in both Glamorganshire and Monmouthshire. Anyway, I apologize for not giving you clear info initially, but I am not familiar with places like Bleanau Gwent, Torfaen or Pontypool etc. Actually, to be honest, Mid South Wales would sound strange. There has never been such a demarcation, either colloquially or officially. However, if you want to simplify this area, you could follow the BBC's demarcations . They have divided the region into South West Wales and South East Wales. South West Wales covers Pembrokeshire, Carmarthenshire and the old administrative region of West Glamorgan, which consisted of Swansea and Neath Port Talbot. On the Wikipedia map, those are areas 11, 12, 13 and 22. South East Wales covers the former admin areas of Mid Glamorgan and South Glamorgan as well as Monmouthshire (Gwent), which includes Cardiff, Newport, Porthcawl and Barry and covers admin areas 1 to 10 on the map. Confused?!? Anyway, if you think that is a good way to go for the  map, don't worry too much about listing of the towns. I'll sort out the ambiguous ones later. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 00:14, 21 November 2006 (EST)

 * Hi Paul, Yes, I agree, keeping the counties as separate entities is the most ideal option, and your latest map has achieved that aim perfectly. I appreciate for all your efforts. Ps. just one thing though, I wonder if you could somehow manage to include Leeds somewhere on the map? (just a joke!) (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 09:45, 21 November 2006 (EST)

Gwent
Hi Paul, I don't know too much about Gwent, but anyway I've added some explanatory blurb to the understand section. Please have a look, and let me know if you think anything needs changing. Thanks (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 10:00, 22 November 2006 (EST)

Map accessibility
Thank you for the Birmingham maps,; but please be aware of [WCAG Guideline 2.1 - "Ensure that all information conveyed with color is also available without color, for example from context or markup. [Priority 1]". You might, for instance, label each bus route, or use differently-shaped dashes. Cheers, [[User:(WT-en) Pigsonthewing|(WT-en) Andy Mabbett]] 13:30, 28 November 2006 (EST)
 * OK, I tweaked the maps, adding labels and route summaries to the bus map and changing the pattern of the mainline routes on the rail map (the rest I left alone as the colours don't signify anything particularly important, they're just there to match up with the local rail guides). Hopefully that should be sufficient, but if you think anything further is needed let me know. --(WT-en) Paul. 17:25, 28 November 2006 (EST)
 * Much better, thank you. (The other guidelines at that page make intere4sting reading, as well) (WT-en) Andy Mabbett 17:50, 28 November 2006 (EST)

England
Hi Paul, the map of England looks great. However, regarding the list of cities I feel I should clarify my sentiments. I'm not actually opposed to York being placed in with the smaller cities category as I see other towns of similar size listed there. I also am not adverse to Leeds making the list, though I notice that the next candidate in terms of visitor figures is Coventry. Anyway, I'll leave the decision to you. However, I'd just like to make clear that my original support for York was based on the fact that I hadn't realized that the other towns of similar size were being listed in a separate 'smaller cities' list (also, I'm not familiar with the size of most English cities), and the fact that I felt that if the decision to include Leeds was made as a result of their persistent lobbying and not based on actual visitor figures, then we would open our selves up to similar calls from supporters of other cities. Soon the talk page for England would soon become like a football supporters campaign. Anyway, I'm just clarifying my initial statement on the England Talk page. The maps and listings you've done are really great, and I'll support whatever decision you make regarding which cities to add on the front page listing. Apologies for my initial vagueness about the matter. (WT-en) WindHorse 21:57, 29 November 2006 (EST)
 * Hi Paul - thanks for supplying the new stats. I have no opinion about which set are used to decide which cities are placed on the main list. Putting Leeds on the main England page is also fine with me as long as its inclusion is the result of actual facts not pressure. Otherwise, it starts the whole 'who shouts loudest' game again. In short, based on your knowledge of the UK coupled with the info on the stats, I trust you to make a wise decision, and so leave it totally in your hands. By the way, the maps looks great. (WT-en) WindHorse 11:25, 8 December 2006 (EST)

Hi Paul, seems you are the man with the ultimate power to change city lists (due to ownership of the maps, which need to match the lists). Just wanted to alert you to a discussion on the UK page... Looks like a while ago there was much argument about which cities made the list, and in the end this was based on visitor numbers. There are now some new stats available, which reshuffles the top 9. There seems to be some support for the changes, and I wondered if you would be kind enough to redo your excellent map? Thanks

I. Am. Dumbfounded.
Amazing job on the maps of counties in England -- what a step forward for the project! Thank you so much for the effort that must have gone into these maps. --(WT-en) Evan 13:27, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Cities and towns
Hi, Paul. So, previously, we've used "Cities" as the heading in the Project:region article template for any settlement, from a tiny hamlet to a megalopolis. If there's a need to specify the size of a community, you can do it in the description that comes after the link, like:

 * Greatbigsville - the largest city in the county
 * Teensytown - a village known for its pottery
 * Middlesize - a mid-sized town with some amenities and features

I realize that putting a tiny village under the heading "cities" can be counterintuitive, but I think it's better than the alternatives -- either having a single heading for each kind and size of settlement, or having one big heading with each kind in it ("Cities, towns, villages, hamlets, megacities, unincorporated townships, settlements, communities, crossroads, parishes, and suburbs"). In cases where all the cities in a region are really just towns or villages, we sometimes do "Towns" or "Villages" instead of "Cities", but it's unusual.

If you think this is crazy, could you please comment on Project:Region article template? Otherwise, I'm going to change back to "Cities" for counties and regions in England when you were adding your excellent maps. --(WT-en) Evan 12:58, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Police icon for maps
Paul,

Do you have an svg version of the uniformed police figure that you put up on Project:Common map symbols last year? I think we should incorporate it into Project:Common map symbols and the map template I am busy building. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 03:12, 21 February 2007 (EST)

License on map symbols
Please have a look at the discussion at Wikivoyage_talk:Copyleft. Would you be willing to release these two symbols under public domain?
 * wts:Image:Light Rail.svg
 * wts:Image:Underground Rail.svg

--(WT-en) NJR_ZA 11:18, 12 May 2007 (EDT)

Dalian Youth Hostel
There's a question about one of the hostels in Dalian on Talk:Dalian/Zhongshan, and since you know the city and seem to be the one who added the listing for it, I'd appreciate your input. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 20:50, 19 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul007

Dear Paul007, please have a look at the guideline Project:Don't tout.

If you want to add a listing about your company, please write it in the tone of a travel guide, and only add it to one article one time. Also make sure you put it in the appropriate section. Thanks, (WT-en) Freundesstern 11:55, 25 April 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul21d

Hello, Paul21d! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please also read Project:What is an article?. As a general rule, airports do not get articles of their own; the few exceptions are places like Heathrow that are essentially small cities by themselves. This applies to very few airports — I think Heathrow is the only one in the whole of Europe, and even heavyweights like Tokyo-Narita or New York-JFK are covered in their respective city articles instead. Mallorca's airport is definitely not big enough for its own, so please add any information to Palma de Mallorca instead. — (WT-en) D. Guillaime 18:39, 17 May 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul29sjo

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 16:50, 5 October 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul51948

What not to link to
Hi. Undoubtedly, portals can provide useful information. However, the idea here is that each Wikivoyage guide has (or should have) sufficient information for a traveler to use it by itself to plan a visit. So, therefore, information portals of all kinds cannot be linked to or listed in Wikivoyage articles. Please read Project:External links. Also, never list the same thing in more than one guide; that's called "spamming" here, and it is also forbidden. Of course, since portals have no physical address, they aren't actually _in_ any specific area as such, which is another problem, because all listings have to have a physical address.

I hope all of this doesn't make your head spin too much, and that you'll contribute in other ways, as I'm sure you have a lot of local knowledge to share.

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 01:55, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

Spamming
In case you read your user file:

Posting the same message to numerous articles is considered spamming here and not appreciated. All your edits are being reverted. Please do not reinstate them. Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 22:39, 29 July 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Paul79

Hello, Paul79! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

And thanks for your helpful contributions to the Utrecht guide!

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:56, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

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