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Talk:Ghana

Get Around / By Car
Quote: "Also it should be noted that cars with foreign registration are not allowed to circulate between 6am and 6pm." I assume this should read "between 6pm and 6am", that is, at night. But since it's only an assumption, I won't change it. Also, I really have no idea if this is still in effect.

 * I had a look at The Road Traffic Regulations 1974, The Road Traffic Bill and The Road Traffic Ordinance  and see no mention of that anywhere. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 14:48, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Currency redenomination
As Ghana cedi was redenominated at the beginning of July 2007 by dropping four zeros, all the articles dealing with Ghana should probably therefore be converted to use the new "Ghana cedi" (1 new cedi = 10000 old cedis). Information about the redenomination can be found here. (WT-en) Tommi 10:02, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

 * Plunge forward! (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:32, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Ewe phrasebook
I created a very, very basic Ewe phrasebook today, from what I remember 13 years ago. Please help contribute. Me dah see (WT-en) Jargas 05:08, 23 July 2008 (EDT)

Regions
This is the last major West African country to tackle on this front. There are 10 administrative divisions and that is clearly too many. I think Geography is the key and I propose: Four regions seems about right. This is very helpful. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:30, 31 January 2010 (EST)
 * Volta Basin :most of central and eastern Ghana centred around vast Lake Volta and the various rivers feeding it
 * Ghanaian Coastal Plain
 * Ashanti-Kwahu :the Ashanti Hills and Kwahu Plateau - forested low hills in the south west.
 * Ghanaian Northern Plains

 * I have just sketched that out and it would look something like this (later refined for river boundaries etc). --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:59, 31 January 2010 (EST)

 * Any thoughts on this? The map is drawn except for the regions... --(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:53, 1 February 2010 (EST)

 * The regions look fine to me. (WT-en) AHeneen 22:14, 1 February 2010 (EST)

 * I had tried to divide Ghana, but I didn't get far enough along to make a proposal, because I couldn't figure out how to best keep the Ashanti region, but I think seems good. Just to make sure: it's AshantI-Kwahu, right? That is what is written in your proposal, but the map says AshantU-Kwahu. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 22:21, 1 February 2010 (EST)

 * Yes, Ashanti-Kwahu is correct - a typo on the map. Thanks to you both. I will draw the regions later today and another one will be polished off. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:29, 1 February 2010 (EST)

 * Done. A very enjoyable map to draw. We have a lot of content for Ghana already and it is good to get it all organised.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:15, 2 February 2010 (EST)

Rethinking
I would like to split the coast into two regions, as there is way too much, really, for one article. The usual travel guide method is to do the West, Accra region, and East, but I think that is unnecessary. The Accra region is often thought of as the Ga-speaking region, which extends all the way to Ada—nearly covering the whole of the coast east of the capital. There isn't much to see or do east of Accra, either. Whereas there is a ton of stuff to do west of Accra, and it is a much larger area. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:53, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

 * While we're at it, I think Tamale should be moved to the north for cultural and logistical regions. The Volta region should probably be split east-west, but that can wait. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:59, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

price update needed
the prices mentioned, (for food, hotel) seems very outdated. recent prices would be much higher. 41.218.244.190 12:21, 27 November 2010 (EST)

 * Please change them if you have newer knowledge! -- (WT-en) D. Guillaime 13:08, 27 November 2010 (EST)

See
I had a go at updating the see section for Ghana yesterday, would be interested in any comments\feedback. Is it useful? Anything else that needs to go into there.

(WT-en) kodzos 05:19, 22 May 2012 (EDT)

Which 9 cities and Other destinations?
At the country-wide level, no more than 9 selected cities and "Other destinations" are listed. Which ones should we list? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:43, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

 * The 9 largest cities and then some UNESCO World Heritage Sites would perhaps be a good solution? ϒpsilon (talk) 20:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

 * Unless someone objects in the next 24 hours or so, let's do it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:10, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

 * See what you think of my efforts. I ended up listing 9 "Other destinations" plus one complex UNESCO listing that encompasses forts and castles in numerous cities. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:02, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

 * There are now 10 "Other destinations" plus the complex UNESCO listing. Which one is least important and should be removed, per the 7+2 rule? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:36, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

 * Several of them appear to be villages, which would technically qualify them to go under Cities, so those should probably all be removed. Texugo (talk) 13:35, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

 * As far as I can tell, Adanwomase seems to be a village, and Nzulezo and Wli Todzi are described as villages in their listings. However, since Nzulezo is a village on stilts that's a UNESCO World Heritage site, it's important to feature it somehow. If we're not listing it among the 9 cities or other destination, at the very least it should be mentioned and linked in "See," don't you think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I'd support putting it in See. Texugo (talk) 14:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

 * I decided to also mention Wli Todzi with a link in the "Nature" subsection of "See." Have a look at the section at your leisure and tell me whether you think it fits there or should be removed. I also changed the "Historic sites" subsection of "See" to "Historic and UNESCO World Heritage sites," to more easily fit Nzulezo into that subsection. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:08, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 12:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this page. Ground Zero (talk) 04:25, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Giardini Naxos

is this place even real or fake? and only content is hi....??? --72.65.121.158 16:48, 18 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Gibraltar

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Gibraltar/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Confusing instruction
I have not been to Gibraltar therefore I may be missing some important context. However I have read the following text a few times and have no ideas what it means:

"After crossing customs, you may be asked to cross the airfield, being absolutely exposed to planes. DO NOT behave differently in this area. Sometimes, if you are on a tour you can stay on the vehicle and citizens using cars can cross by car."

Can someone with local knowledge rewrite or I shall remove? Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I removed the sentence since there is no way to determine what the author possibly meant. Feel free to add it back if you can guess. Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:08, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Bias?
Is it just me, or is the text throughout this article written by someone who is very defensive of Gibraltar's status as a British Overseas Territory? Should we make it somewhat more neutral?

I'm not suggesting to take sides on a territory dispute. Just recognize existing British sovereignty but not over emphasize it at every opportunity. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:35, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I agree. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:13, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Done. I think the edits make it sound more like a travel destination and less like a rabid British Daily Mail editorial. I feel this article is actually missing a lot of legitimate travel information that would be of interest to visitors. Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:10, 21 November 2013 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 05:01, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * The new banner is very striking, but I love the image of the monkey above the port, so I think I prefer the current banner. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Agree to keep existing banner, the monkey is iconic of Gibraltar --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Keep the ape please :) and add the rock of Gibraltar somewhere in the article. Danapit (talk) 14:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I guess Gibraltar is known primarily for three things: The "rock", its primates and being (at least historically) an important port for the British. Both banners show two of these three aspects but not all of them. We have to ask ourselves, whether we value the rock or the primates as more important.... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:25, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Apparently if the apes leave Gibraltar that will mean the end of British rule :) Barbary_macaques_in_Gibraltar --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I very much prefer the second over the first. The photo quality is better and the shot with the rock in the foreground is striking and epic. The one with the macaque is cropped fairly poorly and doesn't work well with the dimensions. Without the rock he's standing on, it just looks like the macaque has been photoshopped in front of the port. Not to mention that the photo is hazy and has smoke rising on the right. I strongly prefer the second. James A ▪ talk 09:58, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't buy the idea that when an interesting banner has some photographic flaws it must be replaced by a blander banner without those flaws. Better to suggest how to improve the original. Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't find the new banner bland. I like it. However, I like the composition and image in the current banner more, and I find the image quality good enough for matters of composition and image content to rule the day. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Proposed Syced (talk) 08:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Come on. Given the choice between monkey or no monkey, you have to choose the monkey. Powers (talk) 23:59, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I'd rather go for the new one, It's ways better, colorful and attractive

 * Seems like we're in the minority, and I'll accept the consensus to keep the status quo. But I still really prefer the new one. I don't accept that the new banner is blander; I find the first one quite bland, being so hazy and dull! But I won't argue the point. There is already a good photo of a cheeky-looking macaque further down in the article. If the current banner remains, then that photo should be removed and replaced with one of the rock as that isn't shown at all. James A ▪ talk 14:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Miles or Kilometres?
Does Gibraltar use miles and metres like the UK, or do they use kilometres like the rest of Iberia? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:11, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Gifu (prefecture)

re: "southern expanse of the prefecture, which houses the bulk of the population and the capital Gifu, is largely rural."

If the south has the bulk of the population, would it not be largely urban, in contrast to the north?

 * The north is mostly unpopulated mountains. (WT-en) Jpatokal 14:17, 12 May 2006 (EDT)

No the article is right, I live in the southern part of Gifu Pref, and it is largely rural just like the article says. But the article is weak in one area; it says that since we are a landlocked prefecture, seafood is not prized. Well yes we really like Hida beef it is true, but we also like a lot of seafood. We drive to Fukui pref for the great seafood markets there. We have tons of seafood here in Gifu Pref; it is coming in from all directions. I have never been anywhere in Japan, landlocked or not, where seafood is not highly prized.

 * Sure, but how many tourists go to Gifu for the seafood? (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:06, 15 June 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Gijón

This text is a direct copy from http://www.simnet.is/japan/e-e-asturias.htm, so unless it's the same author there may be issues. -- (WT-en) Wrh2 18:04, 12 May 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Gilgit-Baltistan

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Comments
How can the parenthetical name "Pakistan" be removed from the title of this Wikivoyage article? The title should be simply "Northern Areas" or "Northern Areas (Kashmir)."

 * We are not interested in political disputes -- not because we don't care, but because we need to describe what a traveler will need to cope with in real life at this time.  Since the Northern Areas are currently controlled by Pakistan, we describe this area as part of Pakistan. -- (WT-en) Colin 18:58, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

Move this article
It seems that the Northern Area was officially renamed as Gilgit Baltistan in August 2009. Given the political sensitivities about this part of the world, I thought it best to discuss this here before moving the article to Gilgit Baltistan and putting a redirect in place. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:47, 5 November 2009 (EST)

 * See Project:Article naming conventions. We do not automatically use Official Names, but if the Official Name is useful and/or is now being used by travelers routinely, then yes we should rename.  I don't have an opinion on this -- just trying to provide guidance. -- (WT-en) Colin Jensen 13:37, 5 November 2009 (EST)

 * I definitely want this article to be renamed. Northern Area means nothing, it is a misleading term. Pakistani and International media uses the term Northern Area for all the areas under conflict in Pakistan i.e. Swat, Malakhand, Tribal areas which leads to People/tourists thinking Gilgit-Baltisan also being part of the conflict zone. which is definitely not the case. In fact Gilgit-Baltisan is the only safe place in Pakistan at the moment. Sajude.  —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 82.22.158.12 (talk • contribs)

 * As best as I can read the map, the Official Name (tm) is the sensible choice here, as it involves no changes in boundaries actual or claimed. The name change is recent enough that both names are in frequent use in English, but already Gilgit-Baltistan is leading NA or FANA by about 2:1 in recent news media, suggesting that it already qualifies as the most commonly used name.  I'd say a rename and redirect are in order.  - (WT-en) Dguillaime 01:34, 19 November 2009 (EST)

 * ...which I've now done. - (WT-en) Dguillaime 15:15, 22 November 2009 (EST)

Bad map
We need to eliminate the cross-hatching from this map and show only the region itself. Showing the Pakistani claims to Indian-administered Jammu and Kashmir is inflammatory to Indians and confusing to travellers. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:32, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Regions section
This section currently has extremely long descriptions, but the normal default style is to use One-liner listings leaving the details to the linked articles. I am not sure we need to chop them down to one-liners, but I do think we need to move some distance in that direction. Pashley (talk) 13:01, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. That's really too much dense black text to be user-friendly. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, but unfortunately I'm not good at writing brief intros so it would be kind if someone write descriptions for both divisions please. --Saqib (talk) 13:29, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think removing the "practical" info (eg, what regions are to the north/east/south/west, major cities, all district names, how long drives are, etc) and just focussing on "exciting" stuff, like the major reasons for going there, will make the descriptions much better. James A ▪ talk 13:41, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

 * I shortened them a lot, approximately along the lines JamesA suggested. It is still not near the one-liner criterion, though. Pashley (talk) 16:46, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Pashley, regionlist template is being used in this article so I guess one-liner listings shouldn't apply here. --Saqib (talk) 17:56, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

 * I think the general idea should apply, though it is not a hard-and-fast rule for any type of listing.
 * In particular, I want to delete some of the text you just added with edit comment "Copied from WP". I'd keep "Location of some of the highest mountains on Earth including K-2.", but I'd take this out:
 * Baltistan is bestowed with some of the greatest bounties of Nature. Tourists from all over the world have a great attraction toward this region because of its beautiful valleys, plains, peaks and heritage sites.
 * There's an English error, "bestowed with", and I think a factual error — does Baltistan actually have any "plains"?
 * More important, this sort of text does not, I think, belong in a listing. Perhaps in the Baltistan article or even in the lead section of this one, explaining why one might vist Gilgit-Baltistan. Not here.
 * Other comments? Pashley (talk) 18:44, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

"Emergency numbers" section in "Connect"
I think this section is a little Yellow Pagey, that some of the listings are obscure (What are I.G., A.I.G., and S.S.P.?), and that some (like the PIA numbers) belong in a listing in another section (in that case, "Get in").

Is there any way we could put a single emergency number in this section, or at most, one for the police, one for fire departments, and one for an ambulance? Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * You're right. The section is superfluous. I've removed all redundant numbers and put only one number "1122" which can be used incase of any kind of emergency such as "Police, Fire Department and Ambulance". I.G stands for inspector general, AIG for Additional inspector general and SSP for Senior Superintendent Police. --Saqib (talk) 11:44, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Saqib. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:48, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Gili Islands

Should this article be a region?
I am thinking that the Gili Islands should actually be dealt with as a region of Lombok, with seperate articles for the 3 islands. This would be much the same as the way we treated the Southeastern Islands region of Bali. The content at the moment is not huge but that is mostly because there is a large amount missing. I can see Gili Trawangan being a strong guide on its own, with Gili Air and Gili Meno more than adequate. Thoughts please. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:05, 21 February 2010 (EST)

 * I think that could work, as long as Gili Islands is put directly under Lombok and not as part of Western Lombok (to avoid too many levels). However, is there really enough content for Lombok to justify the subdivision in subregions? and if yes, does it need to be as many as five?  (I know this has been debated on the Lombok talk page), (WT-en) ClausHansen 03:29, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * Potentially there is definitely enough content for the regionalisation of Lombok. It will require somebody to set about writing the missing articles of course. But that is nearly always the case. I will do whatever is needed for the Gili Islands and can easily handle the regionalisation project (most of which is already done), and drawing the map. It is hard to see how the island could sensibly be divided into less than five regions.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:47, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * I'm not sure it makes sense to regionalize this, as the three islands are all tiny and very much alike: we'd just end up repeating Understand, Get in, See and Do. At 36k, the length is hardly prohibitive either.  A good map of at least Gili T is desperately needed though... (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:30, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * I suggest we keep the Destination as one article as most travellers will only visit Gili T. In case some day their is an overload of listings(hotel, eat, drink etc.) we could split but Jani's argument is very compelling that so far the split would result in significant redundancies. A map would be good for the DotM. (WT-en) jan 08:30, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * Hmm. Organising 3 islands into one article is not ideal when they all have a lot of listings. Many obvious listings are missing which is why the article is not that long. I have been reluctant to have a real go at this because I do not think the organisation is right. Gili T is in many ways comparable to Nusa Lembongan which is developed far enough to be up for star nomination. Lembongan is admittedly a little larger (and much nicer!) but Gili T has more visitor facilities. Gili Air and Gili Meno have quite a few listings and activities in their own right (mostly missing). Get in details are also a bit different for each. I can also see a Gili Islands region article being as strong as Lembongan's parent, Southeastern Islands, which is a decent guide status sub-region article. Three individual island maps are required I think, plus an overview map showing the island group in relation to Lombok (i.e. a region map). Many visitors go to Air and Meno and they tend to be a bit different to those who follow the obvious, well trodden path to Gili T. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:50, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * Burmesedays: You know by far best about the Gilis and are the closets on geographical terms. I'm willing to support the split work if you think there is enough information and espcially maps, get in seperation than let's plunge forward. I think most of us fear empty articles for Gili Air and Meno and redundancies in the Get in Section. (WT-en) jan 14:42, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * I agree with Jan—if anyone has a good handle on whether the Gilis would be well served by a split, I think it would be Burmesedays. As I understand it, it is very much his intent to work to make sure that we don't wind up with empty articles. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:08, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * My only quibble is if someone is actually going to do the work, but if that is the case - go right ahead. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:24, 22 February 2010 (EST)

I probably should have made that clearer. Of course I am going to do the work! The Air and Meno articles will definitely not be empty (Meno might not be very large though). I am not sure if this will work as well as Southeastern Islands and its two component articles, but I am convinced it will be better than what we have currently.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 21:10, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * Have a look now. That was only about 2 hours work. The region article works really well. Gili Trawangan is probably guide status already, and Gili Air and Gili Meno will be fine. I have a stack of listings to add, all places I know or come recommended by friends I trust. Within a week, this will look very good. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:26, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * Burmesedays: Good job and it has a good direction. I suggest that we reduce the main Gili article to the minimum and then it will be perfect for the DotM!(WT-en) jan 05:06, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * I don't understand what you mean by reduce to the minimum?. It is already a region article with all the listing and other island-specific content moved to the relevant island article.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 07:27, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * The Southeastern_Islands article is very lean in the buy, drink, eat, sleep and Get in (mostly reference to the sub articles) sections and therefore makes a good read. Ideally the main Gili islands article is a mirror of that article but you might have already wanted to do that. Thank you for your good work. (WT-en) jan 07:58, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * Thanks jan. Give it a few days and I think it will all look great. I actually think there is more information for the Gili Islands as a region than there is for Southeastern Islands And I see you are formatting some listings and adding new ones... great. Well done. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:22, 23 February 2010 (EST)

I have now finished Gili Meno to my satisfaction and stuck it straight up to guide. Please all have a look, but I think it hangs together nicely as a guide to an OtbP destination. This should dispell any fears of there not being enough content for 3 articles; when finished the Trawangan article ought to be 4 times the size of Meno and Gili Air about twice the size. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:23, 24 February 2010 (EST)

 * Gili Meno is definitely guide. I see that you finished the sleep listification on Gili Air. Only the Salabose hotel has no contact details (neither homepage nor telephone). It would be great to have it because the description will lure travellers and when there is contact then they can avoid touts. Maps are good but could you also pencil in a boat line from Senggigi to Gili T? I think some travellers (including me) took this connection to avoid the way to Bangsal because being a bit short of time. (WT-en) jan 04:13, 24 February 2010 (EST) P.S. All Gili_Trawangan listing neither have directions or phone numbers. Are they any? I don't want to listingfy if you still tackle that section. (WT-en) jan 04:36, 24 February 2010 (EST)

 * Salabose will probably go. I do not think it exists anymore but am checking. Can do on the charter route from Senggigi to Gili T. I should probably put in the speedboat charter route from Teluk Nare as well. Good decision to avoid Bangsal by the way - an absolute hell-hole. I willingly pay lots more money to never go via there. I am right now working on the Gili T listings - adding more as well as details for the existing ones. Most cheaper places on Gili T do not have phones.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:47, 24 February 2010 (EST)
 * The two things missing for a Gili T guide ranking are a map and the See section is still empty. Do you want to merge it with the Do section? I was told some bad stories about Bangsal and decided for comfort reasons to directly go from Senggigi. Good to know that they are true and the money wasn't wasted. (WT-en) jan 05:00, 24 February 2010 (EST)
 * The region map now has all the boats routes on it. See and Do will probably be merged for Gili T yes as I cannot think of a single attraction. Maps for Gili T and Gili Air will come soon, but I want to get the articles in shape first.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 07:23, 24 February 2010 (EST)
 * Buremesedays, first thank you for the update of the map. You wrote in the map that charter only is on the route between Senggigi and Gili T but in the Get in section it is stated that a daily Perama boat is commuting for Rp 8,000. It's just nitty gritty but if we want to make it a star it could be seen as biased. You merged See and Do and i think the article is ready for promotion for guide or do you want to go straight for starnom? (WT-en) jan 03:08, 25 February 2010 (EST)
 * That's a mistake, it should not say charter only. Gili T is a guide for sure. The Gili T map will done today also. Star though is a fair way away I think. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:46, 25 February 2010 (EST)
 * Trawangan map done and I have stuck it up to guide.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 06:09, 25 February 2010 (EST)
 * Map is good and a good guide article imho. I will ask User:(WT-en) Inas to have a look at the article because he has a good view for weak spots on articles. BTW: The starnom for Nusa Lembongan is silent. I haven't noticed any serious opposition. Do you want to finalise it as most usual suspects made their statement? (WT-en) jan 07:26, 25 February 2010 (EST)
 * It is tragic how few users bother to comment on a star nomimation. Very demotivating and makes you feel like not bothering to put in the extra effort. Specifically on the Nusa Lembongan nomination, there is one support statement, from you. That's it. Back to Trawangan,. I am really happy with it. The article comprehensively covers the island I think, and correctly conveys the atmosphere of the place. The listings are good, with the right businesses represented and the bad ones not. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:13, 25 February 2010 (EST)

Done! Just added the map for Gili Air and all is done, to my satisfaction at least. The 3 island articles are now all guides I think and the region probably is as well. I now feel much more comfortable with this as a DotM than I did when it was one article with a minimal number of listings and spotty coverage of activities. If anyone feels like proofing any or all of the four articles, please do. I am now blind to them, and there are probably some silly typos.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:06, 26 February 2010 (EST)

Boat charter pricing?
This info re: chartering a perahu from Senggigi to the Gilis disappeared from the article: "Prices vary: a one-way dropoff can be negotiated down to Rp 250,000 in the low season, while a return day trip with island hopping might cost Rp 500,000." Any reason why? (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:05, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * That's a mistake by me. It must have disappeared during the splitting work. Apologies. That information should be re-inserted. I think those prices might be a bit low though. Keep the price as vague as possible I think. I will try to get current info. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:46, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * Yeah, those were the prices I got ~5y ago... (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:32, 24 February 2010 (EST)

 * :) Done. The charter price for a slow perahu is now about Rp 500,000. I have also added that option to the Region map.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:38, 25 February 2010 (EST)

 * I know that http://www.giligetaway.com has reasonable fast boat pricing. Getting me to Gili T from Serangan in approx 2 hours for IDR650'000 one way. hope this helps, as i have in the past taken the slow boat and it can be quite painful.

Get in by boat from Bali
A large number of new services have started operating this year, and the recent long edit to that section hits it on the head. I was at Serangan last weekend on a fishing charter and there seemed to be fast boats bound for Gili T everywhere! Caution is advisable as some of these are very unlikely to last the course. I would also advise against adding any specific listings yet, other than the well established Gili Cat and Blue Water services.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:18, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

Electricity
The advice about electricity (or lack thereof) on Gili T especially, should not be watered down. To compare it to Bali is very misleading (main areas of Bali might get one short outage a month; on Gili T, businesses sometimes only get a few hours of supply each day). And in my experience it is also far worse than on mainland Lombok. Gili T has its own on-island PLN generator with no supply from elsewhere. The problems are huge and very specific. I wil change this advice back to something like the original.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:13, 5 June 2010 (EDT)

Jellyfish sting treatment
I have endeavored to create a distinction between blue bottle and other types of jellyfish treatment, as according to many sources including the [Wikipedia article ], vinegar use is discouraged for blue bottle stings. Natataek (talk) 11:54, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Best to do your own research rather than rely on anything from WP unless you verify the sources yourself, and check for bias or 'confusion', and that is coming from a fairly long established WP editor :) -- Felix  ( talk )  09:12, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
 * And I must comment that it is very encouraging to see someone working on these articles as you are. -- Felix  ( talk )  09:13, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks! :) Natataek (talk) 10:50, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

www dot balitogiliislands dot com
This travel agency is edit warring. Is there any good reason not to blacklist this URL? I'd like some discussion on this before I add it to the blacklist, and I'm not confident that MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist will be monitored by anyone. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:39, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Dive shops & eco trust
Recently someone added a dive shop, mentioning that it was involved with the Eco Trust. That was reverted as touting; sounds plausible to me. However, one shop is already mentioned in that connection and that entry was not removed. Why not?

If all shops pay into the trust, we need a clear statement of that. Then we can drop mention of the trust in listings. In any case, it would be better to have listings for a few different decent places, not just one. Pashley (talk) 22:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Booking tickets
Don't the mentions of price comparison websites in the Gili Islands section violate External links? To wit:

Avoid linking to secondary sources - for example, avoid links to:

 * Price comparison websites

I will move such links here for discussion. If you think I'm wrong to remove such links, tell me why, and how you plan to ensure that only the best and most honest such sites are linked in that section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:53, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

 * See below:

The most reliable way to compare live seat availability, up to date schedules and book e-tickets online is with Gilibookings for the most reputable fast boat services, or its sister site Gilitickets.com for some of the cheaper tickets on budget operators. You can view all routes, timetables and pricing for many of the most popular regional fast boat operators. Prices on Gilibookings range from US$50-70 one way, US$98-136 return depending upon departure point, the route and the carrier. Higher prices are somewhat offset by discount vouchers on food, drink and activities on the Islands. Fast boats are generally around 30% cheaper on Gilitickets. Most fast boat operators do complementary hotel transfers to/from most areas in Bali. Some operators allow for island hopping on their tickets.

Cheaper tickets can also be found locally with other companies for exemple EasyGili they offer cheap tickets (cheapest one way US$18, return US$32 excluding pickup).

Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:56, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

 * A question here is, is EasyGili a booking service or an actual boat operator? I'm unsure, and the problem is that two IPs have engaged in touting for it, while overwriting apparent competitors' listings, so they've been blocked with a warning, but if they are in fact a boat operator, they could be listed. It's not 100% clear to me, but it appears that they're either the same as Wahana Gili Ocean or are doing booking for them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:47, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Gili Trawangan

Eat recommendation
I can really recommend "Tratoria" next to Scallywags. Excellent Italian pizza and pasta, in my opinion the pizza is much better than in Tir Na Nog. Around 55-70k for a main.

 * Why don't you add it to the article, instead of placing it on the Talk page? --(WT-en) globe-trotter 16:25, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

 * But if you do please ensure that you avoid the use of first person pronouns, perhaps provide information such as the hours, some basic menu detail, a phone number if they have one and some price indications. Please also check the spelling, trattoria vs tratoria, have they not spelt it properly at the restaurant, if they have used "tratoria" then follow their own spelling rather than the correct bahasa Italiano. Thank you. -- (WT-en) felix 07:56, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

Chronical order vs. Alphabetical order of Dive shop list
Hi, I am of the opinion that a chronological listing of Island dive shops would be more appropriate for this article as it would imply level of experience and establishment and therefore give the reader a feel for the old and new. Some travelers look for experience, while others prefer newer facilities. Also, i deem alphabetical order to bestow an unfair advantage based solely on name, which may influence company naming in the future. I propose changing the list(s) from alphabetical to chronological order.

Any thoughts? Natataek (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Since reading your comments on my Talk page concerning this matter I added a (hopefully clarifying) note at the top of the list, maybe that helps deal with this, and if you think that can be improved then please do Plunge forward, or just wait to see what some others may suggest in regard to this. -- Felix  ( talk )  16:31, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Gillingham (Kent)

Do we need a Project:Disambiguation page for the "Gillingham" in Dorset? (WT-en) Maj 00:39, 28 January 2007 (EST)

Moved this page to Gillingham (Kent) and Gillingham is now a Disambiguation page for the 5 Gillinghams that I could find in the world. I don't know how soon this will be needed, as only Gillingham (Kent) appeared in paper guidebooks that I looked at. (WT-en) AlasdairW 19:34, 24 February 2007 (EST)

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Talk:Gilroy (California)

(California)
I modified the newly created Gilroy article to redirect to this pre-existing article. However, the only other Gilroy listed in Wikipedia is in Montana, and it doesn't seem like a very well-known place, so perhaps the Gilroy article should be deleted and this one moved into its place? -- (WT-en) Wrh2 00:42, 6 Aug 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Gimmelwald

Original text stated that it is not possible to drive from Lauterbrunnen to the Stechelberg lift station. This is incorrect. I have verified this with a resident of Gimmelwald who has informed me that the road is, indeed, open to auto traffic from Lauterbrunnen and that he parks his car in the Stechelberg lift parking area. (WT-en) Dick107 17:09, 25 January 2007 (EST)

Ethics
I love this town with all of my heart. While I firmly believe that everyone should get a chance to come here and experience heaven, I also believe that it will soon be busting at the seams as more and more tourists flock to this "quiet" mountain town. I fear that I won't be able to show my kids the same Gimmelwald that my parents showed me. Tourism has destroyed many small towns, and I hope that the same won't happen here. I realize that this is selfish and contradictory to everything this website stands for, but I think this article should be deleted. Gimmelwald gets by well enough on word of mouth...and don't you think Rick Steves has already done enough damage. June 19, 2007 —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 85.1.41.247 (talk • contribs)

 * You're right: your suggestion is simply contradictory to the principles this web site is based on. We're not going to delete an article about a destination to keep that place a secret.  That's a form of "security through obscurity" and as a technology professional, I can tell you that never works in the long run.  Besides, the tourists would just go and wreck some other place, and what are the ethics of that?  Furthermore (and speaking solely for myself here) I have little doubt that eventually humanity is going to overrun and destroy every nice place on the planet if it keeps on its present course of exponential population growth and consumption.  The lovely little out-of-the-way towns won't be spared forever.  The only thing that's going to stop that is if people come to realize that it's happening.  Among other things, the people living in plastic mass-produced suburbs need to know that there are places like Gimmelwald, and understand why they're worth saving.  Without that, they'll never care enough to do anything about it.  I don't have any illusions that Wikivoyage is going to "save the world", but I think it (as part of travel in general) contributes more to the solution than it does to the problem. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 17:31, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Please also note that one of our goals is world domination, so say goodbye to Grimmelwald. Today Wikivoyage destroys Grimmelwald, tomorrow we'll destroy the quaintness of New York City. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 17:50, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

 * I actually think Wikivoyage is a rather good antidote to some of the ills of travel guides in this respect. Most travel guides will just pick one or two "nice, small, out of the way towns" in a region, causing all tourists using the guide in that region to flock to, and destroy, the few listed towns. As a comprehensive and constantly expanding travel guide, Wikivoyage will avoid the problems of arbitrary selectivity and should, I hope, spread out the tourists. That said, I actually have avoided contributing some content that I wanted to keep for myself ;) But I wouldn't actually delete content as a "cover up." --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:57, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Fair enough...good arguments by all. It wasn't really a serious request, but rather an appeal to emotions. I mean, can you really delete collective knowledge? I think it takes a few years. Anyway, I'll see what I can do to expand the article a little bit. Thanks for refreshing my "wikifaith". -DvD 00:42, 22 June 2007 (CEST)

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Talk:Gippsland

I found a couple of pictures of Gippsland on Commons. 205.189.97.202 13:04, 24 June 2006 (EDT)

Upgrading pages
Hi all,

As I'm currently working on upgrading Gippsland-related pages to usable, if anyone is curious on a summary table of the status of pages, I'm keeping track on User:LivelyRatification. Here's the current table, though as it doesn't automatically update, it's only accurate at the time I'm writing this message.

Hope this can help if you have any articles you'd like to upgrade! -- Lively Ratification  (talk)  04:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Let's make Yarragon guide. SHB2000 (talk)  05:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Good idea. Not planning to go there any time soon but I could add some more listings, information, etc. -- Lively Ratification  (talk)  09:30, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note my main focus at the moment is upgrading other Gippsland articles to usable so this might not be my main priority. -- Lively Ratification  (talk)  10:45, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I just said that as a joke. I'll need to complete Innamincka as well. SHB2000 (talk)  21:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * At least we don't have any stubs. SHB2000 (talk)  21:23, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Splitting this region up
There's a good 28 articles breadcrumbed underneath this region, and I think it's time to split them up. Proposing it similar to how I did it on New England (New South Wales) by LGA.

Here's just what I thought: all towns and parks in the East Gippsland LGA all towns and parks in the Wellington and Latrobe LGAs all towns and parks in the South Gippsland, Bass Coast and Baw Baw LGAs + both the Phillip and French Islands
 * East Gippsland
 * Wellington and Latrobe Central Gippsland
 * South and West Gippsland

Does this work out? I'm only making these based on a map of Victoria's LGAs, only so it's easier to make a coloured dynamic map. But if some other boundary works better, that may as well be the one that we should use. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:06, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * (please excuse the incomplete map...) -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:22, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * That works fine enough. Might suggest that the Wellington and Latrobe region be renamed Central Gippsland. -- Lively Ratification  (talk)  05:06, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's fine. Will fix that in a sec. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:36, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Now that the boundaries have been made, which nine cities should stay on the cities list? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:54, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * At a guess - Bairnsdale, Leongatha, Traralgon, Sale, Warragul, Orbost, Wonthaggi, Lakes Entrance, and uh, maybe Paynesville? Those last 4 seem like a stretch, but if you want 9 that's my 9. Lively  Ratification  (talk)  19:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Will start now. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:27, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Moved everything, but replaced Paynesville with Stratford because that's a star article and now there's three in every region. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:57, 26 November 2021 (UTC)

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 * McDonald's Golden Arches.svg

 * It's a logo of Maccas that we'll have to let go. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 * I can't imagine why it would be useful, anyway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:58, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

 * OK, I see it was part of a table. Why do we have a table of WV:Boring chain restaurants? Why don't we delete it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) Gippsland is very useful though, especially when travelling in small towns where most establishments are closed during public holidays. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:01, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If this kind of list is useful, I suggest making all the names plain text. Hungry Jack's logo is obviously copyvio, but even using the colors and fonts of the chains seems like bad faith to me. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:07, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Not sure about Hungry Jack's though; the logo is Australian, but I don't know whether US trademark law applies to that logo given Hungry Jacks is the master franchise of Burger King in Australia, but that's a thing for Commons to deal with. I'll write them out in plain text in just a moment. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:30, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Girona

stay safe
I deleted "; giving them money is to be discouraged and they are best ignored" from the section about vagabond. I find it a bit disgusting to call upon travellers not to help people who have severe problems. Vagabonds and drunkards often have psycich diseases.

atmospheric cafes
> Enjoy the numerous cafes which are especially atmospheric at night

Which cafes specifically can we recommend as atmospheric? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 05:06, 9 December 2007 (EST)

Drink
I just deleted "Excalibur" from the bars&pubs list because it was closed a few months ago

Copyedits in one with Wikivoyage style and policies
I am restoring these edits that were reverted without explanation. These edits are consistent with WV:mos, etc.: These are not controversial edits, but I am willing to discuss any of them. Restoring punctuation, capitalization and formatting errors to make some point without explaining what that point is is harmful to Wikivoyage. Ground Zero (talk) 15:18, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Spain uses the 24-hr clock, and the format "7pm" is not a format used by Wikivoyage. WV:tdf
 * Compound adjectives as in the phrase "a 25-min ride" require a hyphen.
 * WV:tdf says to use "May 3017" not "May of 2017"
 * €12 not 12€ per WV:$
 * The reversion restored capitalization errors ("restaurants" should not be capitalized here)
 * "4 star hotel", "it should be noted", "located", "recently" - see WV:wta
 * You won't even acknowledge the mistakes you clearly introduced with your edit. I dislike throwing out the good with the bad, but your "copyedits" tend to work 30% by "search and replace" 30% by your overly-strict interpretation of policy, 20% doing actually good things 10% introducing new errors by accident (ironically caused most likely by not giving the "copyedits" a second glance before hitting "Publish Changes") and 10% introducing subtly wrong stuff in the name of "simplifying". Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:55, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I acknowledge that I make some mistakes while editing, as most editors do. I thank editors who correct my mistakes. I reject the notion that it makes sense to revert a dozen corrections because of one or two errors. I have been using "show changes" to review my edits more often, but not often enough. I will try harder. If you don't like throwing out the good with the bad, don't do it. Either fix my errors, or let me know that I have made errors and I will go and fix them. I take responsibility for my mistakes. Ground Zero (talk) 18:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Banner
More colorful and less of a jumble of rooftops if you like. ButteBag (talk) 15:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Giza

Should Giza Pyramids be merged into this... and should this article be moved to Cairo/Giza? It hardly seems like a separate city from the tourist's point of view, it'll soon even have a station on the Cairo Metro. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:14, 31 Oct 2004 (EST)

 * Glad you asked this.... I've been thinking about this all afternoon off and on..... It probably is a good idea to merge the two articles, save cross-referencing between the two.... Also, Giza probably is sufficiently integrated with the rest of Cairo to make Cairo/Giza worthwhile.... (WT-en) Pjamescowie 15:49, 31 Oct 2004 (EST)

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Talk:Gjakova

This is town real name per wikipedia all other relevant sources. --(WT-en) Blurey 18:15, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

Guide and OtBP
This article looks quite good already, and I think it's not far from guide status, which would mean we could feature it on the Main Page. The small issues with the article are the following:
 * The Eat section should be expanded, for a city with about 100,000 inhabitants I do think we should list some more restaurants.
 * A few listings need coordinates.
 * I don't think we need so many subheadings in See, many subheadings only have one attraction.
 * The tours in Do; do they conform with our tour policy? ("If a traveller could fulfill the substance of the tour on their own, the tour should not be listed.") --ϒpsilon (talk) 20:32, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Gjilan

This is town real name per wikipedia all other relevant sources. --(WT-en) Blurey 18:15, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Glacier Bay National Park

To do
While this article should now be useful for travelers, it could benefit from a couple of good pictures, and a bit more information in the "See" section. Also, any information about rates for the services listed would be helpful. In addition, if anyone knows more about services available in Gustavus and either wants to write an article for that town or else work the information into this article, by all means please do so. -- (WT-en) Wrh2 17:37, 22 Jun 2005 (EDT)

OtBP?
This could be a pretty breathtaking feature. I think we need 2-3 more thumbnails of awe-inspiring photos at the Commons category. I see some external links format editing is needed, and all listings will need to be checked for possible dead links and price increases. Anything else needed? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I notice some PO Boxes in addresses in "Do". That has to be changed, as it won't help anyone find their kayak rental place. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:48, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Glacier National Park (Montana)

Drink
I've got a question for anyone who has ever visited the park. I started this article even though I had never visited myself. Do visitors stay somewhere outside the park or inside? If a visitor stays inside the park where do they go when they get thirsty? (WT-en) Sapphire 20:56, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

 * The Official Website points to the concessionare's website which lists the hotels within the park. Kalispell is nearby, and I think there is lodging near some of the other entrances too. And there is always camping with the Grizzly Bears, which afforded me at least one sleepless teenage night.

 * The concessionare seems to have places at eat at each lodging, but Drink only at some of them. -- (WT-en) Colin 21:19, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

 * There's lodging in the park that needs to be booked well in advance during the summer, and campgrounds that will also fill quickly during vacation season. Towns outside of the park have bars, and I would assume that the park lodges serve drinks (although I've never had a drink there).  That said, the park is one of America's best known national parks for its backcountry, so if you're at all into camping this is the place to put on a pack, hike a bit, and then sleep under the stars.  You can bring your own drinks with you, and the bears really aren't all that bad - just don't rub steak on yourself and bath in gravy before going to bed. -- (WT-en) Ryan 22:05, 3 April 2006 (EDT)
 * Thanks for the advice. I was actually going to use steak to scare the bears aware! What was I thinking? :) We need to add that to the "Stay Safe" section. (WT-en) Sapphire 22:11, 3 April 2006

 * Hmmm, it may be worth mentioning that in the US of A Parks usually do not sell alcohol and often have rules about glass containers or bringing alcohol into the park at all. I know that folks from other countries may be as surprised by this as I was to find a full bar at some Canadian parks! (WT-en) Majnoona 22:47, 3 April 2006 (EDT)

Safety and Over-Zealousness
I added a bunch of safety advice to the Stay Safe section and while everyone at Glacier does seem to err toward the hysterical side with grizzlies, a lot of the information is not Glacier-specific... What do other people think, should it be briefer? Is there some centralized page with back-country safety tips (including gear advice)? Thanks! (WT-en) Palimpsest 21:34, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

 * The info you added looks good to me - one of the goals is to produce standalone guides, and you didn't go overboard on bear safety. My only criticism would be that I thought it was only with grizzlies that you play dead, but it's been a while since I was backpacking around black bears so I could be wrong.

 * As to a place for general animal safety, see Travel safety and Wilderness backpacking for two potential locations where additional information might be helpful. Eventually we could probably use an Animal safety article, but that information should start out in a parent article first. Nice job with the Glacier National Park article, by the way! -- (WT-en) Ryan 21:40, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I made a couple of updates - after checking a few sources on the web, it is true that individuals should fight back during a black bear attack but play dead during a grizzly attack. Otherwise this info seems fine to me. -- (WT-en) Ryan 22:21, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Thanks for your additions. I was there a week and a half ago and most of the worry seems to be about grizzlies (because black bears are so cute and little, etc etc). We weren't given any information about the differences between the two so thanks for the heads-up! (WT-en) Palimpsest 22:32, 17 September 2006 (EDT)

What else?
What else does this article need to be promoted to star status? I've filled in all the remaining parts of the text itself, but I think there are some formatting oddities (mostly in text that I didn't want to remove or change), like in the Get in (by car) section and two places under Sleep. I have no idea how to do the wikivoyage-preferred map - does anyone want to take up this task? Also, I uploaded a picture on to the internet for the first time ever and am not sure if I dotted all the i's. Thanks! (WT-en) Palimpsest 04:23, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

 * This article has always been a good article, and it's nice to see people continuing to contribute to it. If you're looking for ways it could be improved then you may want to take a look at Yosemite National Park and Isle Royale National Park to see examples of current "star" articles.  At a quick glance, some items I'd like to see improved in this article:

 * It could use a list of hiking trails, with descriptions. http://nps.gov/glac/ is a good source for that information, and it's licensed in the public domain so it can be copied here, although it's generally better to reformat their info to be more appropriate for a Wikivoyage article.
 * The eat and drink listings don't following the suggested style. See Project:Listings and Project:Restaurant listings for formatting information.
 * "History" is a bit thin.
 * I mostly agree with (WT-en) Andrew about the "Read" section - we generally try to limit the pointers to outside sources since such sections generally become unwieldy lists and tend to encourage people to add links rather than content (see Project:External links for a similar topic). In addition, it's going to be difficult to keep the section from becoming an exhaustive (and thus nearly-useless) list of every book that has ever mentioned the park.
 * A new criteria for star articles is that they must have a Wikivoyage-style map. Project:How to draw a map has some guidelines.
 * A few of the sections lack contact info. For example, the Rental cars section mentions Dollar but doesn't provide an address, phone number or web site.

 * -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:34, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Read
Should we have a "Read" section? I'm weary of it because it could be a slippery slope and I don't like promoting other guides all that much. For now, I've moved the section to be a subsection under "Understand". -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 22:22, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

My two cents: I understand not wanting to promote another product or show preference for one publication over another, but on the other hand, there are a ton of guidebooks out there, both good and bad. I think it would be useful in general to hear which resources are useful and for whom, and which one can do without. This is the first wikivoyage article into which I've put any significant time or material, however, so I don't really know the protocol works. Anyway, I'm glad you raised the point, since it didn't occur to me. (Also, what about maps?) (WT-en) Palimpsest 22:30, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Star
Is this nearing star status? It's a really amazing guide to what I hope will be a really amazing trip one day. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 18:58, 8 January 2008 (EST)

db page or not?
How do we know whether Glacier National Park is referring to the US or the Canada one? Wikipedia also disambiguates it. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:11, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

 * Isn't the U.S. park the main one? --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 14:45, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Not sure to be fair. Out of the 17 parks I've visited in the US, Glacier National Park isn't one of them :-(. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:26, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Glamorgan

County status
This county no longer exists as an administrative entity. However, as some people may still look for it, I thought it was perhaps best to write some explanation with links rather than having no information at all. In addition, without the traditional county page, the list of cities needing to be listed on the next level of administration, South Wales, will exceed the nine limit. However, if people feel that delete is the better option, that's fine with me. (WT-en) Frequenttrekker 07:14, 20 November 2006 (EST)

 * I propose merging this into the new Vale of Glamorgan article. Otherwise this would have to be an extra-region article. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 16:19, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

 * I've removed the merge tag for now - I performed the merge and broke the Wales region structure because Glamorgan is one of the four regions set up for South Wales, so I then reverted that merge. If this is going to be merged elsewhere then someone will need to propose a new regional breakdown for South Wales and update the corresponding map. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:35, 31 January 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:G-Land

This is not an article
It is a surf break. I suggest (maybe) a new article called Grajagan of which G-Land will be the main attraction. It might fit somewhere else but I do not think so. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:28, 22 September 2009 (EDT)

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Talk:Glasgow

Glasgow Wikimedia Meetup Number 1
I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have not seen this advertised on Wikivoyage so here goes:

A chance to meet up with people from various Wikimedia projects on Sunday 12th May 2013. 1.00 pm onwards in The Sir John Moore, 260-292 Argyle Street, Glasgow G2 8QW (A Wetherspoons pub with food and WiFi). For more details see: Meetup/Glasgow/1. AlasdairW (talk) 20:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Unhelpful edit
The core underlying principle of Wikivoyage is that it is written for the benefit of travellers. The question "what is best for the traveller" should always guide edits made here.

Perhaps our most "sacred" principle (that some Wikivoyagers are in danger of losing sight of) is that all our work aims foremost to serve the travellers who are our readers.

I'm not sure that this edit observes that fundamental principle.

The editor in question has form for these kind of lazy edits. He has a predilection for fixed image sizes rather than leaving it to the preference of the reader as is advised on other wikimedia projects that use the same software, but that shouldn't be an excuse for changing URLs to those of non-existent bus companies or having visitors from Edinburgh or wider afield think that they do not have to hail buses from bus stops in Glasgow! --W. Franke-mailtalk 19:59, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Frank, just stick to editing those other things, and lay off the proportional image sizes, which you know haven't been agreed to. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:24, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Glasgow School of Art
It looks like GSoA will be posting to http://www.gsa.ac.uk/about-gsa/key-information/mackintosh-building-fire/ to provide its students with info regarding the recent fire. (Admittedly, their first priority is students, not travellers.) The WV Glasgow will likely need to be updated if and when anything is reopened to the public. 2001:5C0:1400:A:0:0:0:20D 22:22, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Districtification (continued)
There has been an attempt (in 2009) to districtify Glasgow (see Talk Archive). This seems a reasonable thing to do and from the archived discussion, an existing boundary definition including map could be taken. I think this should be done - any objections? 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Restaurant chain
I moved this food listing to the discussion page, because I think it doesn't give any useful information. Feel free to add it back, but please provide more details, e.g. reasons why people should go there:

14:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 04:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Both are nice, and I'm torn, but perhaps #2 would be better since it still shows that building. – Hshook (talk) 13:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not a significant improvement. Danapit (talk) 18:39, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Like Hshook, I'm torn. The building is interesting and the cityscape is beautiful. As there clearly won't be a consensus for a change, is there another article where the cityscape would be appropriate? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:03, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I think that the present view of the Armadillo is slightly better. Also bear in mind that we have a panorama on Clydeside the next level up in the hierarchy. AlasdairW (talk) 22:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep for sure --Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:42, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * How do you all compare the current banner for Clydeside with this banner? I'm not sure, because the current banner there has an interesting modernist character and a good composition, while the proposed new banner here is fairly pretty but more conventional. I'd be hard-pressed to recommend substituting this banner there, either. Also, the source image for the proposed replacement banner is extremely dark, so I'm not sure how it would look as a thumbnail in an article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:57, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Just to clarify my comment above - I am not suggesting changing the banner on Clydeside, but my point is that the view of one building contrasts with the panoramic view in the level above. The new banner could be used on Driving tour of Scotland which currently has the same banner as Fort William. AlasdairW (talk) 22:27, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Good idea, because the same banner shouldn't be used for 2 articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I'm definitely in favour of replacing the existing (Armadillo) banner. The image quality is quite bad and it's too colourless to represent the Glasgow page. Plus, if you don't know the building it is hard to recognize anything on that picture. (A new higher quality version of the same motif but cropped with more of the surrounding area might be acceptable). I created two more alternatives (#3 and #4) which have a slightly better image quality and show more of Glasgow. I would vote for #3. (But in general there is still room for improvement for a better banner.) Thanks in any case for your suggestions. dom (talk) 12:34, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

 * With the caveat that I have yet to visit Glasgow, I don't find the two newest banners very compelling, because: The first one, aside from the "PEOPLE MAKE GLASGOW" sign, has mostly not-too-interesting buildings in a gray sky, whereas the second one has some interesting buildings and might be good if their tops weren't cut off in a way that looks random. I don't find either composition that good. I hope none of this comes across as discouraging. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

 * I notice that the second new one looks better as a small thumbnail on this page than it would as a pagebanner, but it needs to be judged in pagebanner size. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Time formatting
This article uses both of our time formats: 09:00-17:00 and 9AM-5PM. Per WV:TDF, we should pick one and stick with it. With one is most commonly used in Glasgow? Ground Zero (talk) 12:36, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Capitalisation
The Glasgow Subway is a proper noun, and must be capitalised. "The subway" is not a proper noun, per our policy on capitalisation -- see Capitalization: "Generic words for institutions, organizations, companies, etc., do not take capitals (University of Mumbai but the university)."

As far as Imax goes, that company can capitalise its name however it wants for promotional purposes, but I don't know why Wikivoyage would want to. We don't have a policy on that, however, so I'll leave that alone. Ground Zero (talk) 14:17, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia capitalises IMAX, because that's the way it's normally spelt, so that's why Wikivoyage should do so too.
 * SPT (the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport who run the Subway) also capitalise the S of Subway, just as we capitalise Tube, U-Bahn and Métro (the Paris Métro, not metros in general). You'll notice that I left generic mentions of (other) subway networks with a lower case S, as per policy. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:37, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Corporate styling preferences and Wikipedia policy are neither here nor there as this is Wikivoyage, and we follow Wikivoyage style. The fact that other articles don't follow this style is also not a relevant argument. But I'm not looking to fight about this. I'm moving on to other work. Regards, Ground Zero (talk) 20:16, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You do that. Nobody's "fighting", least of all me. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:13, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

Removed Da Vinci's it's now permanently closed.
See this article from Glasgow Live KaraLG84 (talk) 16:11, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

Destination of the Month
Does this article need anything specific to make Dotm? /Yvwv (talk) 21:06, 3 September 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Glenbrook

Turns out there are a couple of Glenbrooks, anyone know of one that more famous than the others? (WT-en) Majnoona 11:24, 10 May 2006 (EDT)
 * errr, ok, looks like there's only one, maybe. Can anyone figure out if this is a suburb or housing community or what? http://www.calgaryarea.com/sw/glenbrook/glenbrook.htm

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Talk:Glendalough

I'm going to try give a complete overhaul of this page in order to give this very beautiful are a decent article..! If somebody could provde any photos they have that'd be graet..! -Chris --(WT-en) Disonyxiated 07:49, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Copy-paste content
Hi all, I noticed there is a lot of identical content on the Glendalough page and the official tourist website of Glendalough, some of it was introduced for example in this edit from 2009. I don't know who copied from whom, although it seems that the official tourist website already had that content even before 2009 (see archive.org). So it might be a good idea to rewrite the copied content. 129.215.90.124 13:30, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Content removed from hostel listing
I removed the following content from the hostel listing:

The county of Wicklow, just south of Dublin is known as the Garden of Ireland. Central Wicklow is a mass of domed granite mountains, penetrated by deep glens and wooded valleys containing some of the finest scenery in Ireland. To the west, the mountains give way to gentler country on the edge of the central plain. Staying in Glendalough for a night or two is a great way to forget about the hustle & bustle of everyday life and just relax. The county is rich in history and culture, with five heritage gardens and many archaeological and historical remains.

Maybe it is useful elsewhere. 13:55, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Update
In Aug 2020 this page was overhauled, along with the rest of the county, so there shouldn't now be any text copied from a non-W source. The page was already well-developed but was trying to describe the entire county, so that's been relocated, or deleted if it was useless guff. Like, Glendalough does tennis the way Palm Springs does medieval monasteries. Grahamsands (talk) 11:01, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Glen Ellen

Working on the guide
Glen Ellen is my hometown and I have had so many people ask me for advice of what to see and where to stay when they visit. I would like them to be able to go to WikiTravel and get all the good info... So... I am working on this guide. At first I am going to add a lot of stubs. Lost of list. Then go back and fill them in.(WT-en) Trew 14:10, 6 November 2008 (EST)Trew
 * Good job, places made with love, like what you are describing above, become the best guides - and something hurried researchers for LP never accomplish :-) (WT-en) Sertmann 15:22, 6 November 2008 (EST)

Future items

 * https://triplecreekhorseoutfit.com/

-- John Broughton 03:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

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WE NEED PICTURES! Thanks. -AZGSB9

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Talk:Glenwood Springs

External Links to Review
These links were removed from the main page and may be good sources of information to be included in the main article. The links, however, are likely not.

 * Glenwood Springs Bed and Breakfast Association http://www.glenwood-springs-inns.com has information on all the local B&Bs.

 * Glenwoodcolorado.com Guide http://www.glenwoodcolorado.com offers lots of links to local attractions.

Pictures
Any pictures anyone have that we can add??

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Talk:Glitzia

Lest anyone think this is deletable nonsense, there is actually a region of Poland called "Galicia" or "Galitzia", which is, I think, what this article is referring to. I have no idea where to put it in our Poland hierarchy, though. Thoughts? --(WT-en) Evan 08:58, 13 December 2006 (EST)

 * Surely it belongs in Poland > Glamour Province > Glitzia -- (WT-en) Cacahuate 09:29, 13 December 2006 (EST)

 * Surely you mean the Voivodship of Glamour? (It's a few klicks northwest of the Voivodship of Glad.) (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:47, 13 December 2006 (EST)

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Talk:GlobalFreeloaders

I have a feeling that this page really isn't going to support itself.

I wonder if there's a way we could combine this with Servas International and make a Home stay network travel topic, kinda like Discount airlines in Europe. --(WT-en) Evan 19:44, 16 Apr 2004 (EDT)

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Talk:Gloucestershire

I moved this page; I doubt there's another Gloucestershire that'd take precedence over the one in Great Britain.Please check Project:article naming conventions for details. -- (WT-en) Evan 15:25, 26 Aug 2003 (PDT)

Regions and Cities
The whole of Gloucestershire is in the region of South West England. (See South West England.) English regions are bigger than English counties.

Neither Evesham nor Stroud is a city. (See List of cities in the United Kingdom.)

(WT-en) Picapica 11:13, 24 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * We use "city" for "urban area"-- towns, communities, villages, hamlets, whatever. There would be an unnecessary overexactness in having separate sections ("Cities", "Towns", "Villages") for each size and type of city. You can put a simple description after the listing if you want to show that an entry isn't really a city-city. I'll do that for Evesham and Stroud. --(WT-en) Evan 12:24, 24 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Also: we use Regions as a name for any sub-national area that can contain one or more urban areas ("cities"). It sounds like "regions" have a formal meaning in England, in which case we should probably avoid using them for sub-county areas. Any suggestions for a good name for areas like the Forest of Dean or the Cotswolds? --(WT-en) Evan 12:40, 24 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion
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Talk:Glovertown

Used Cars?
I've removed a link (Canadian Auto Sales) twice now from this page because I don't really see how it fits into a travel guide. Are the deals at this place so amazing that people travel for miles upons miles to buy cars there? If so, then there needs to be more information provided, because otherwise it looks like an advertisement.

Please review Project:External links

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Talk:Goa

Why do you keep reverting changes made to Goa
Why do you keep reverting what has been added with valuable time, it's outrageous. Please explain. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Rmuddam (talk • contribs)

 * Hi there, I think the most recent changes you made to the Get in section were probably reverted because you were starting to reformat it in a way that was kinda maybe making it a little messier, but I can't say for sure since I didn't do it. But as for the one the other day, there were a couple things wrong. For one, we don't add links to Wikipedia within the guide (just one link to the Goa article is ok, and it goes in the left toolbar under "Other sites", where it already is now).

 * Also, since the Goa article is a region article, all of the actual listings for hotels, restaurants, etc belong in the subarticles... for instance, a hotel in Panaji belongs in the Panaji article, and the same for ones in Palolem, etc. I think when you added the large list of websites it looked at a glance like you were putting stuff in the wrong place, which is why someone removed it... but as you can see if you look in the article history I quickly restored it, since I appreciate the hard work you did in researching those, and while maybe they aren't in the right place, at least we've got the info now, and those sites will help us a lot in gathering the rest of the info we need like phone #'s and addresses. So for now, it's still on the Goa page, but when someone who knows where they belong comes along, they'll put them in the right places.

 * Usually we try to explain our reverts around here and I'm sorry that nobody did this time... but please know that your edits are welcome, and I hope you'll continue helping us out! Sorry again. I've left you a welcome message on your talk page, with some useful links on how to edit, format, etc, which may help you out with your future contributions. Thanks! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 20:58, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the response, it's a big relief after your response. The reason i contribute, where i can, is that i think this is a noble cause, and often times, info on Indian places is found wanting, hence the contribution.- [user:rmuddam]

There seems to be a site abuse by one "Montego Bay Goa" by using this site for their promotion, and put their hotel info at a lot of places. I have deleted where ever i found them repetitive, self-promotion. Pls. keep them on the watch list. (WT-en) Randhir R 14:21, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Cool, thanks for the help, always appreciated! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 16:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Lots of style issues
This article has extremely long and confusing do, eat, and sleep sections. Since this is a region article, there should be no listings here—all listings should be in appropriate destination articles. Would someone knowledgeable about the area please try and merge relevant content into appropriate destination and city articles and remove irrelevant content altogether. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:00, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

Okay, let me try... (WT-en) Fredericknoronha 14:43, 12 January 2008 (EST)

 * just to clarify - Peter meant into destination and city articles not creating separate articles for the content. I moved your content back here, as I have no knowledge of Goa, but a sorting would still be nice - it's not that your work aren't appreciated - it is! But the way you're doing it not means more work for me and others, so please take a bit of time to look around the different help articles, to get a grasp of how we do things. (WT-en) Sertmann 23:19, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

 * I have taken out all of the eat, sleep, and drink listings and saved them locally. I will gradually feed these back into the correct artciles. It will take a while as there are 9 A4 pages of them. The article looks a lot better for this. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:09, 3 January 2010 (EST)

No mention of eco-tourism or things to see/do of ecological value in Goa? I for one am interested in water harvesting, bio or syngas harvesting, aquaculture, milk processing, fish processing and handling etc. --(WT-en) Anonperson 04:35, 29 January 2010 (EST)

 * Please go ahead and write about it. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:13, 29 January 2010 (EST)

Guide?
Goa would be a good destination of the month nominee and we need more of those spread around the world. However, it cannot be nominated until the article is at Guide status. I just bumped it from outline to usable, and it looks close to Guide to me, but I haven't looked in detail and anyway I'm not prepared to bump it twice without other opinions.

Is it a Guide? If not, what does it need? I can help a bit with copy edits, but I haven't been there in decades. Would anyone who knows the region as it currently is care to jump in? Pashley (talk) 00:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry no-one replied. There's a lot of good stuff in this article, but it's not a Guide yet. Comments from India Expedition: Most of this article is quite good and pretty interesting to read. "See," "Do" and "Buy" are treated like sections in a city article, with a bunch of listings, which is not the normal way a state article treats them. "Stay safe" might be easier to read if divided into more subsections. "Go next" should have links added as needed and could use some tweaking. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?
In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Definitely think the current banner is more striking and original than the proposed new one. Texugo (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I totally agree. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:22, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Me too, though palm trees are very much part of the Goa I recall. I might fund a clearer photo of them, or something showing some of architecture or the fishing boats, better than either of the above. Pashley (talk) 02:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Though there's nothing so original about palm trees at tropical latitudes... Texugo (talk) 02:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Current banner Matroc (talk) 03:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia-style wikitable moved from article
We don't use tables like this in Wikivoyage articles, but just in case someone might find some use out of it:

Trains to get into Goa
Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Embryonic itinerary
This seemed too detailed to be in the article, but if someone wanted to use this as the basis for an itinerary article and was ready to defend it as not just a random route in case of a vfd nomination, great:

Hyderabad to Goa road route — Take NH9 (Bombay Highway) and after crossing Patancheru, Sadashivpet, Zaheerabad at Humnabad turn left towards Gulbarga. Do not enter Gulbarga town and as soon as you hit the ring road at Gulbarga turn left towards Jewargi. This road goes over a nice, new flyover they built. So you can't miss it. At Jewargi make sure you turn on to road towards Sindgi, Dewar Hippargi and Bijapur. Have a fuel refill here and then head towards Jamkhandi-Mudhol-Lokapur-Yaragatti-Nesargi and Belgaum. Be careful you pick this road going to Jamkhandi as there are quite a few roads leading out of Bijapur. Also there is a tempting road that looks shorter on the map between Jamkhandi and Yaragatti. It is shorter but a single lane and very potholed. So avoid it. The other road is only 13nbsp;km longer anyway. Now the most important part. From Belgaum take the road towards Jamboti which then goes on to Chorla and eventually to Sanquelim. The road in the ghats here is impeccable and not abused by mining trucks and other heavy vehicles. The drive is very scenic too. From Sanquelim depending on whether you are going to north or South Goa you can choose the road either to Mapusa or to Panaji respectively. Additional tips: Just before you leave Belgaum city and enter the highway towards Jamboti on the right hand side look out for Kshema Inn which serves good food. We used GPS on our mobile phone (my wife was the navigator) while figuring our way around Bijapur and Belgaum to get on to the right road. This is hugely helpful and saves time and effort of having to get directions from the locals which may or may not be right. Allow a trip time or 14 hr from Sainikpuri to Calangute including city traffic, food and rest stops. This route mat have some advantages over various other roads between Hyd and Goa including Gangawati, Anmod, Sawantwadi.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Drunken idiots?
I spent the winter of 1974-75 in Goa and have not been back since. I hope my question here is badly out of date.

One conspicuous feature of the place when I was there was large groups of fairly well-dressed male Indian tourists, mostly quite obviously drunk, whose great joy in life seemed to be oggling foreign girls (at the time, hippie chicks) in bathing suits. Having a dozen or more guys standing about waiting eagerly for a few girls to emerge from the water is seriously irritating. Pashley (talk) 20:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

"Distance from Goa to various cities" table
This table in Get in/By car presumably relates to Panaji and should be moved there. Any objections? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * No objections or put in both places and maybe change title to "Distance from Goa (Panaji) to various cities"
 * The reason I think it belongs in Panaji and not here is that the distances are so specific that they can't apply to the entire state, even one as small as Goa. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I moved the chart to Panaji and retitled it "Distances from various cities to Panaji," keeping in mind that it's in the "Get in" section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Beach pictures
The beach pictures added here don't add anything to the article. They could pretty much be beaches anywhere. Should we remove them? Ground Zero (talk) 12:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

 * I'd remove two of the three beach photos. Also, I think we have an excess of maps; the generic link at the top plus three in the article. should some of those go?
 * Also the 200px tags on various photos make them useless, at least on my screen; I'd say just leave them all at default size. Pashley (talk) 12:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Susegad
Interesting BBC Travel article. It's worth reading the whole thing, but here's a short sample:

 * Journalist Joanna Lobo, who grew up in north Goa and now lives in Mumbai, reminisced about susegad from her childhood. “It’s a Sunday spent with the family, relaxing after a filling lunch of rice, fish and vegetables, just gossiping about the village or playing card games. It’s that feeling of relaxation, of feeling content with life, of being loved.”

 * Contentment, physical silence and mental peace were themes that came up again and again as I spoke to people from Goa – both those who live there and those who have moved away. Where other Indian towns are defined by the sounds of vehicular and human traffic in the form of incessant honking and heated arguments, in the towns and villages of Goa, it is the chiming of church bells and the gentle tinkle of bicycle bells that mark time.

Should susegad be mentioned in "Understand"? What about this claim, which if we mentioned it, might risk taking a side:

 * [A] mutual affinity between Goa and Portugal exists to this day. “Unlike the British who exploited Indian resources, the Portuguese did not consider Goa just a colony to make money from; it was actually considered a part of Portugal. Therefore, the Goans also thought them to be their own people, rather than outsiders,” he said.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Don't listify
This is one of the state articles that has to be repeatedly cleared of listings. Please don't help them proliferate. Full listings need to be in city or park articles; only prose summaries of highlights with links to appropriate city or park articles should be here, no listing templates. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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