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Talk:Storms River

Naming consistency
So is it "Storms River" or "Stormsriver"? The page title and body text have it as two words, while the map and photo captions have it as one. What gives? (WT-en) Texugo 09:38, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * A Google search implies it is Storms River and that's the way User:(WT-en) Babbelas spells it. I guess he should know.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:13, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * Storms River people don't know it either, even the Afrikaans Stormsrivier is still common, by using Stormsriver next to Storms River, the search engines won't have problems finding the page. Does Google understand that Stormsriver is Storms River? - (WT-en) Babbelas 11:23, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * Doing a Google for stormsriver throws up the Storms River link as the 3rd hit, and highlights the text hit as 2 words, so it seems to know stormsriver > Storms River. Interestingly, it does the same with a search for storms river. So yes Babbelas, it does seem to know they are the same :) On saying that, there are only 98,700 results for stormsriver, compared to 1,290,000 for storms river. (WT-en) Nrms 11:28, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * Split words always have more (inaccurate) results! - (WT-en) Babbelas 11:36, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * Please standarise it as Storms River. You can of course show the two alternative spellings in brackets at the top of the article as is normal. We should surely not have a destination name spelt in different ways in the same article? --(WT-en) Burmesedays 21:58, 8 March 2010 (EST)

 * When I return to Stormsriver/Storms River, I will make a picture of the official road sign pointing towards town, to confirm the final spelling. - (WT-en) Babbelas 05:24, 9 March 2010 (EST)

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Talk:St. Paul

I moved the St. Paul page to Saint Paul because the page linking did not seem to show all the linked articles and Saint was used in some articles. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:57, 25 Feb 2004 (EST)

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Talk:St. Paul (Minnesota)

Ugh - this should be deleted. Sorry.

 * Made St. Paul (Minnesota) redirect to Saint Paul. -- (WT-en) JanSlupski 12:34, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

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Talk:Strait of Juan de Fuca

Article?
Per Project:Bodies of Water we don't normally add articles for bodies of water unless the article is actually about the region named after the body of water, such as Lake Tahoe. I'm not sure if this strait meets that criteria, but if not it should probably be VFD'd or redirected. -- (WT-en) Ryan 12:34, 27 January 2007 (EST)

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Talk:Strasbourg

Is Strasbourg really huge enough to need districts? It's kinda a slippery-slope to start out with every city having subpages (City/Districts) by default, when those are really meant for mega-cities like New York, Mexico City, and Tokyo... thoughts? (WT-en) Majnoona

 * Thanks for all you're corrections. My english is really bad and I'm waiting for the french version of Wikivoyage. I'm also learning the "how-to-do" and the (many) differences between Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. I think the today-lesson is : it is not necessary to be exhaustive on a subject (=WP) but to explain what could interest a traveller (=WT). However, as most of old european towns, Strasbourg (even if it's not that huge) has some really particular districts (medieval district, german district, european district) that are interessant to visit (and to describe). But before that, I'll explore WT to be more efficient. CU :o) --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 05:51, 24 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Sounds good. Don't worry too much about your English-- it's a lot better than my French and wiki makes edits easy, so keep adding info! Maybe take a look at Geneva, San Francisco, and the Manual of Style for more tips. I look forward to seeing your contributions! (WT-en) Majnoona 12:32, 24 Jan 2004 (EST)

Corrections needed
Getting to Strasbourg by car : from Lyon, it's closer to 6 hours, unless you like to break speed limits and never stop.

On where to eat, I recommand "Au Brasseur", Rue des Veaux. Good beer, good flammenkueche and not expensive at all.

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 05:14, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't have a strong feeling about this, but the new banner is clearer and better lit. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Having visited Strasbourg a few times, I have a much stronger connection to the current one. The bridges near the European parliament are not really interesting to me, even if the photo is of higher quality. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:08, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Clearly the newer is better, even though it is too panorama-distorted. The old picture is too dark, missing the colourfulness of the houses, which is typical of the region. The new pic shows the iconic asymmetrical cathedral. A picture not showing the ENA (dark building on the left) would probably feel less "distorted". Andrewssi2: The bridges of the new picture are in Petite France, the most touristic part of the city, actually very far from the European parliament. Syced (talk) 10:06, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

2019
Back in 2015 there was no consensus, but the existing banner is not great, and now we have more banners from Wiki Loves Monuments. I like #197, although it does not show the bridges, only their towers. How do you think? --Alexander (talk) 13:33, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

 * I haven't been to Strasbourg, but just in terms of my response to the images, 201 is my first choice, followed by 199, 198 and 197, and all of those are better than the existing one and the previously proposed alternative. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:42, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I also support 201, but only slightly over the current banner. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 00:43, 26 November 2019 (UTC)

Replaced the current banner with 201. Let's have some change! --Alexander (talk) 16:53, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

The by train section
This section needs some updating (I took a stab at it, but I am not even remotely from the area and frankly do not want to sift through the SNCF and DB websites for hours to look stuff up) first of all it treats the 2007 opening of the first section of LGV Est as recent news (we are now at the point where the second section opening rarely qualifies as news),then it lists a lot of over-exact travel times (which are likely based on a schedule now almost a decade old) and it just reads clunky overall. Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:14, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

 * The travel times should be up to date - I went quickly through the timetables and looked for the fastest direct connection, after I noticed a few were very out of date. Feel free to round them to nearest 10/15 minutes if you prefer.  I agree on the clunkiness. Quarkosaurus (talk) 09:59, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

Tram lines
Can we get the tram lines to show up on the map? Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:02, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Strathcona Provincial Park

I'm sorry if I didn't create the Strathcona Park stub properly, but folding the Flower Ridge trail node in there results in significant lack of readability. Frankly, (WT-en) Wrh2, I think your edits show a pessimism towards WikiTravel: who are you to say that so much information about each trail exists that they don't need their own node?!

I was intending to direct some of the members of my party to the Flower Ridge node to add their comments, so I'm going to fold it back out and I would appreciate if you leave it alone for the time being. -- (WT-en) Vagary

 * It is very much appreciated that you and your party are contributing to this article, but please see Project:What is an article? for the policy on what constitutes an article. Wikivoyage does include articles for Itineraries, and trails such as the Appalachian Trail do have their own articles, so if you feel this trail is deserving of an itinerary then by all means please go ahead with it. -- (WT-en) Wrh2 18:14, 28 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * The guidebook I reference has around 100 pages devoted to Strathcona and I consider it insufficiently detailed. If this information is in the scope of WT, then having it on separate nodes is the only scalable option. -- (WT-en) Vagary

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Talk:Stroud

I changed back '...accessible for pedestrians', as most shops are! Pedestrianised means that the streets the shops are on don't have vehicle access. Lots of towns and cities in the UK are going this way, which I'm very happy about. Maybe one day, with the increase in Park and Ride, car-filled city centres will be a thing of the past. I don't know if you have pedestrianised town centres, or park and ride in the US: From what I remember (I went there when I was 13) most shops were either ONLY accessible by car, or were in shopping centres. -- Lionfish 14/07/05

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Talk:Struve Geodetic Arc

This is a very strange site as most of the sites are small concret posts in the middle of fields, hence the reasons I have included Longitude and Latitude co-ordinates. I was not really sure how to tackle the whole site so i thought this may be a good place to start from and then if other people have info on each site they can place it in the relevent article and link it back to here (WT-en) Meltwaterfalls 05:00, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

 * This is really bizarre indeed, but I like it. I think an itinerary or travel topic is probably the best format though, as sections like "Eat" don't really make sense here. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:45, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Stuart Highway

Northern Territory, Australia. Looking at travelling left off the Stuart highway to Victory Downs along the Old Gunbarrel Highway towards Warakurna Road House. East to West. Is this possible. Thanks Nelly email: sille@net-tech.com.au

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Found this hilarious pic on flickr. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:11, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Stung Treng

I've removed the outline tag, as I think its prescence on this page is no longer warranted. When it was placed I had applied the template only minutes before I began to create the various sections. Though I admit there isn't a library of information on Stung Treng here, it's as much as I could gather. If anyone sees fit that the outline tag should still be placed, go ahead and put it back! - (WT-en) Brian Hnatiak

 * The next step up from outline is "usable", and given the size of the town it's pretty close to being a "guide" if you ask me. Good work! (WT-en) Jpatokal 09:44, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Stuttgart

I worked in Stuttgart for a while and had a Handy (mobile). Unlike the UK, a Handy's owner had to be registered. Is this still the case? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 87.127.117.7 (talk • contribs)

 * No, you can bring your own mobile and buy a sim card ("Prepaid-Karte") at Media Markt, Saturn or even at some of the supermarkets. However, you should whether there's a sim lock on your handset. Also note that many of the budget sim cards use networks (O2, Eplus) which might not provide great reception in rural areas. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 84.57.161.68 (talk • contribs)

Sources of information

 * City info by Sttugart University —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 132.248.36.169 (talk • contribs)

Vineyards in the centre of the city?
Can anyone verify the claim that there are vineyards in the centre of the city and close to the Hauptbahnhof ? (to the North West) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 12:33, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Official website claims something similar. Jjtkk (talk) 17:53, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks. The user (maybe you) also provided this on their talk page: "Birkenwaldstraße 56 70191 Stuttgart" or see http://www.stuttgart.de/item/show/339491 --Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:34, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Pullman Fontana photo
Normally, photos of hotels are not included in Wikivoyage guides unless they're of interest as sights in themselves. This building doesn't look particularly significant or beautiful. Is there any reason why the photo should not be deleted from this article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You can if you please, I just wanted to add a photo to an otherwise featureless section to spruce it up a bit, and this is the only hotel still in existence that I could find a photo of. PrinceGloria (talk) 00:54, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * But it's not necessary or even appropriate for every article to have a photo of a hotel in it. See Listings:

 * Images of businesses, including hotels and their bedrooms, are generally not used. The only exceptions are if the business is a well-known attraction in its own right, or if the image is of a type of accommodation that is unusual and unique to the region. In the second case, identifying the lodgings where the picture was taken by name is not necessary.

 * If you want to spruce up that section of the article, it can have another type of photo in it, unless there is a particularly beautiful or notable hotel in Stuttgart that you can find a photo for. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:24, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Too many listed restaurants in Vaihingen
Vaihingen is just a suburb and not of high interest for tourists. Decent restaurants are all over the city and not worth to mention! See https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Wikivoyage:Avoid_long_lists —The preceding comment was added by Uhkabu (talk • contribs)
 * User:Traveller100 has provided some of those after a discussion we had when I mentioned I am staying in Vaihingen and he did many times. There is a considerable amount of casual, business and scientific tourists staying there. I see no problem with listing restaurants there, I would rather focus on some other miserable aspects of the article, like the appalling way the Sehenswuerdigkeiten are listed and many of them omitted. I have only started working on those and it would be brilliant if we focused on that first rather than discussing if we have too many restaurants. PrinceGloria (talk) 11:27, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I think this site is a travel guide, mainly for tourists but is also for business and educational travellers. Even for tourists Vaihingen is a useful place to stay as it has very good S-Bahn connections to most parts of the city and the airport. I have added entries for other areas of the town, just I know this one better than others, needs more input from other. As to the length of listings you may have a point. Was thinking at some stage the Eat section and maybe the Sleep section should be split into suburbs (do not thin the article is big enough yet for districts). --Traveler100 (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Map allignment and zoom level
Hi User:PrinceGloria, apologies for changing your carefully crafted dynamics map, however I do have some concerns:

 * 1) Why is the map alligned in the center so that text can not flow around it?
 * 2) Why is it so large? (600x600)
 * 3) Why is the zoom level so deep (15) when there are a lot of attactions outside of the city center?

Thanks! --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:11, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

 * Thanks for taking the time to react so quickly, here I go with the replies:
 * With a map 600px wide, making the text flow around would create a mess of a squeezed block of text that is hard to read and a map that is harder to make out. There are people viewing our pages on screens with low resolution. Anything wider than 400px is IMHO too wide not to be centered - if it is an image, I make it standard size and hope the reader will click if interested. If it is a map that is key to reading the article, it should read and print well.
 * Try to fit all the key POIs of central Stuttgart on a smaller map that is legible and you will end up with a lot of yellow pluses. The map should be useful, not just put there to check a box. I believe that small maps make no sense, except for very small destinations.
 * The map is centered and zoomed on the city centre for the very reason as above - just to show there is a Porsche Museum there and Fernsehturm there we would have to make the centre a huge cluster of yellow pluses. IMHO it is ore useful for the traveller to be able to look at and print out a map of the centre and use the dynamic features if they want to find out the exact locations of the POIs farther out. Until we have a feature that allows multiple dynamic maps in one article, we have to make such compromises, and I believe in case of Stuttgart the one I made works (I have been to Stuttgart since with the very map, was very worthwhile!)
 * PrinceGloria (talk) 05:18, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

 * Hi, I really have concerns around this approach so I have raised on Wikivoyage_talk:How_to_use_dynamic_maps. I know you don't like the 'yellow pluses' that now appear, unfortunately that isn't sufficient reason to break convention.
 * Also I really can't agree that only having the map centered on the inner city is a good idea. It would mean that visitors may not be aware of anything else happening outside of the city center.
 * These issues could actually be resolved by creating district articles. Pehaps even just 'inner city' and 'outer city'. Do you agree? Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:30, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

 * I do agree that they could, I don't agree on creating those articles - Stuttgart is perfectly served by just one article, there are not that many POIs. If anything, consider raising with Joachim the issue of actually allowing two maps in one article. Cheerio, PrinceGloria (talk) 07:15, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Pictures
I think we should remove the pictures of the airport terminal (which looks like an airport terminal), the tram, and the red S-bahn train. These are not interesting pictures and it feels encyclopedic to document the different modes of transportation. The Hauptbahnhof picture should be kept as it is an attractive building, and the Zahnradbahn picture illustrates this interesting mode of transit. I think, the others are unnecessary clutter. Ground Zero (talk) 21:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I also agree. I think those should be removed. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:15, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 * The picture of the airport terminal is a good picture, so I wouldn't mind keeping it in the article but wouldn't fight for it. Otherwise, I agree with you guys. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:44, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Ready to feature?
Is this article ready to be nominated at Dotm? What is missing? /Yvwv (talk) 22:00, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:New Zealand Subantarctic Islands

Is this an article?
Does this deserve its own article? Can't sleep there, I don't think – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:55, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

 * The "can you sleep there" test sometimes gives way to a "is it so remote that it can't be reached as a daytrip from another place" test for remote islands, and in this case I think these islands pass that test. However, as discussed on Talk:Antarctica, regions based on Antarctic territorial claims generally aren't appropriate for the purposes of a travel guide.  For example, visitors to the islands in this region will probably also visit Macquarie Island (claimed by Australia), so they should likely all be within the same regional article.  However, since we don't have a driving reason to have a sub-region for these islands, redirecting this article to Islands of the Southern Ocean might make sense. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:38, 23 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Do any of these five island groups (of The Snares, Auckland Islands, Campbell Island, The Antipodes and the Bounty Islands) actually fall within the ambit of Antarctic Treaty sovereignty claims held in abeyance??? --118.93nzp (talk) 05:26, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Region category?
Based on the 5 year old discussion above, I'm wondering if this should just move formally under New Zealand? Andrewssi2 (talk) 03:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, and there certainly was a discussion at Talk:New_Zealand where I rather put my foot in it and revealed my ignorance of the intimate details of Frank's proposals... --118.93nzp (talk) 05:22, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Subic

major cleanup needed. --(WT-en) Hayfield 19:59, 13 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Sucre

Where is the "stay safe" option? I was considering a trip through, amongst others, Boliva. But after reading La Paz, I have definately changed my mind. I was just wondering if Sucre is a dangerous as La Paz? --(WT-en) Gungner 17:01, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

Destination of the Month?
We have had no featured articles from Bolivia since 2006. Would any improvements be needed to make this article the Destination of the Month? /Yvwv (talk) 19:38, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Sucre (estado)

Why I have to merge this article?

 * Because of the title, Estado is Spanish, and you are on the English Wikivoyage - the article already exists here Sucre (Venezuela), I've gone ahead and merged the content. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 07:08, 30 January 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Sucumbios

Sucumbios is a province a politic division of Ecuador

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Talk:Sudan

Transportation
Travel by truck A lot of travel in Sudan is done by truck. If you go to a truck park, normally near the market, you should be able to find a truck driver to take you where ever you want, conflict zones aside. You travel on top of the load with a large number of others. If you pick a truck carrying bags of something soft like peanuts it can be quite comfortable. Beer trucks are not. If the trip takes days then comfort can be vital, especially if the truck goes all night. It helps to sit along the back, as the driver will not stop just because you want the toilet. The cost has to be negotiated so ask hotel staff first and try not to pay more than twice the local rate. Sometimes the inside seat is available. Food can be bought from the driver, though they normally stop at roadside stalls every 5/6 hours. Departure time are normally at the start or end of the day, though time is very flexible. It helps to make arrangements the day before. It is best to travel with a few others. Women should never ever travel alone.

Travel to CAR If the situation in Darfur calms down, trucks will resume from the border to the CAE capital. The trip is an exceptional adventure as it passes through jungle and backwoods Africa. However the road is dirt the first third and turns to a mud bog during the wet season. Consequently a two/three day trip can turn to a two/ three week trip as you winch from bog to bog. Take extra food etc. Always book through to the capital or you may be stranded in the middle of nowhere.

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Sudan/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. -- (WT-en) Huttite 17:23, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

 * I removed the part in "Get in" saying that you should not bring up political/military topics on border posts. I think this is common knowlegde if you travel countrys that your cov considered a country of evil - Peter 02:46 CET, 21 June 2006 (EST)

Arabization
Author wrote: "Note: program of "Arabization" in process" I have a question - what the hell is "Arabization?" Who administers this "program?" The janjaweed, which murders hundreds of thousands black Africans or non-Arabs? Why doesn't WikiTravel call this "program" what it really is - a genocide of non-Arabs? I'm going to change this. WikiTravel cannot have any credibility if one shred of false information is given. (WT-en) Sapphire 04:19, 1 April 2006 (EST)

 * This is a travel guide, not the International Court of Justice. Neither term belongs here. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:21, 1 April 2006 (EST)

 * (WT-en) Evan and (WT-en) Maj obviously have strong enough faith in you so I'm not going to argue about this, but I wish to make one point clear. I was not talking about the Sudanese government and the two major rebel groups, the Justice and Equality Movement and the Sudan Liberation Movement. I was talking about civilians. The problem I have is we are not being truthful. I could care less about the "parties" what I care about is trying to convey the truth about a situation which is deadly enough for civilians that don't pick up arms. What is to stop the Janjaweed, known to be sponsored by the Sudanese government because the VP spilled the beans on that, from prevent foreigners who have seen too much from killing the foreigners there. Additionally, a major part of traveling is traveling with a conscience - I.e. Eco-tourism. WikiTravel users need to be aware of the fact that hundreds of thousands of civilians have died. Would a traveler go to Sudan and spend money, some of which will be taxed and go to the government, which could help finance this war if he/she/they knew the truth that it's not just a rebel group fighting for the independence of the Darfur region, but instead a genocide. I sure wouldn't. A quick survey of 25 people only one person would tell you that they know the situation in Sudan is genocide, not a armed conflict, which, unfortunately the warning does not convey the full severity of.

sudan is a great country
Do not lisen to the bbc go and see it for yourself and speak to some sudaness people they will tell you what is happen for really!

 * Yeah, the article contains bullshit. Please Project:Plunge forward and fix it. -- (WT-en) Colin 22:33, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

Sudan is a amazing contry, it has problems but what contry dosnt. It is slowly improving though.

Work times
I rolled back the addition of a work schedule for Sudan. Although it was interesting, it didn't seem to be useful for travellers looking for work in the country. I think the info could be summarized in a single sentence. --(WT-en) Evan 11:33, 22 December 2006 (EST)

South Sudan
As many of us would know, Southern Sudan will become independent on 9th July as the Republic of South Sudan. Should we create a new country page called South Sudan, or leave it as part of Sudan? (WT-en) Superdog 05:29, 25 June 2011 (EDT)

 * We will have to create a new nation out of our "South Sudan" and create a new Sudan map, a South Sudan map, and probably even edit maps of neighboring countries to show this new border however, that can't be done until we know concretely where the borders will be drawn. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 00:06, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

 * I can think of the following map amendments: South Sudan, Sudan, Africa, CAR, Ethiopia, Uganda, Kenya, DRC and Sahel. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:25, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

 * I guess also any world maps, like in the Talk article. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 01:06, 3 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Gah, I wish they'd consult us before making changes willy-nilly like this. Sets the Project:Regions map Expedition back... --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:29, 6 July 2011 (EDT)

Registration
Shortened this edit to a short, 3rd person one, but thought it should be put here:

 * As of 2010, many towns no longer require registration although I did have to register before being allowed to check in to lokandas in Karima and Dongola*

Anyone that can verify this? My thinking is that perhaps the police are just disorganized/lazy and you could get in trouble by police elsewhere in the country or when leaving (fixed with some $$, of course). (WT-en) AHeneen 23:50, 20 October 2011 (EDT)

Borders
The borders shown in this article (twice) are what Sudan claims them to be, not the actual reality on the ground and not what Egypt claims them to be. This should either be changed or made clearer. Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:46, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 16:57, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this article. Ground Zero (talk) 12:43, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Outdated prices
As the pound fell from 55 to the USD to 400 to the USD in March 2021, I think any prices quoted in SDG should be removed from articles unless they are date stamped after March 2021. Ground Zero (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

 * Relative prices may not have changed that much, especially inside a specific sector. An expensive hotel is probably still expensive. I suspect the sectors (and specific venues) that rely on imported goods or have visitors from abroad have had more steep price changes than the rest. A cautionbox and a discussion in Sudan#Buy is probably warranted, but I don't think removing prices serves the traveller. –LPfi (talk) 19:38, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I see no reason that relative prices would not change. In cases of hyperinflation, I think there would be a wide spread of changes in prices of various products. I also don't think that readers will readily grasp the concept of "relative prices", but instead will see that Wikivoyage's prices are woefully out of date. Ground Zero (talk) 14:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * They will change of course (I worded it badly), but expensive places will probably stay expensive, and might get relatively more so. Depending on the importance of import, devaluation in respect to other currencies may not affect local prices in all sectors, so some prices might still be at the right magnitude. The former is perhaps best handled with keeping the price categories and edit sleeppricerange & al. For eateries, there might be changes depending on served cuisine and hard-to-predict influence by competitors' changed situation, so perhaps the prices say little. Anyway, I prefer travellers seeing that prices are woefully out of date (and us stating so) than that we delete the little information we have. I'd like to defer to people knowing the facts on the ground; do we have contributors from Sudan, or has anybody been there lately? –LPfi (talk) 14:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I have already removed prices from most articles. I think only Khartoum still has prices. The prices  usually did not have dates attached to them so at best they were useless, and at worst they are misinformation. I don't think restoring this obsolete information is a good use of time. It would be nice if we had sleeppricerange for Sudan articles, but we do not have that level of detail. It would really good if someone with local knowledge could provide updates. Ground Zero (talk) 18:32, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Yes. –LPfi (talk) 20:03, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Guests to your hotel room
The UK travel advisory says
 * "Homosexual practices and extra marital relations are illegal and subject to severe penalties. This includes inviting guests into hotel rooms."

It is confusing that the extra-marital relations are discussed in the paragraph on LGBT, but I assume you don't get punished for extra-marital relations by having a male friend to your room, but that this rather refers to khulwa.

If I understand correctly, a mixed group of Westerners, visiting each other's rooms, could get in trouble. I added a sentence on it, but as I don't know the facts on the ground, I'd appreciate somebody checking and rewording. '

–LPfi (talk) 20:25, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Sudbury (Ontario)

Cost of the city bus service? (WT-en) Padraic 11:52, 3 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Cold?
In the "understand" section, it says that the temperature in Sudbury sometimes reaches above 20 degrees. Having lived in Sudbury for 27 years, I can assure the readers that the temperature is AT LEAST 20 degrees from mid-June through August. Most summers see two weeks of 30 degrees + in mid-July.

Also, Sudbury IS a great place to visit in the winter. It's not as cold as the article lets on, with temperatures comparable to Moscow.

 * Please plunge forward and make the changes! (WT-en) Majnoona 16:02, 21 April 2006 (EDT)

Cope?
What should go in the "cope" section? I couldn't find any info about it..
 * Project:Big_city_article_template -- (WT-en) Jonboy 16:51, 28 April 2006 (EDT)

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Get Out
Why is Huntington in "Get Out"? Huntington and Northport are in Suffolk County. -- Michael 13:21, 01 July 2006 (UTC)

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Needs 2 b moved to Mid-Ohio (WT-en) 2old 15:39, 10 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Should be all set. 65.96.227.45 16:12, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Stubborn! Did not change.
 * It's a caching problem that will clear. There are also instructions somewhere on how to purge the caches, but I don't recall where.
 * Got it.

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Needs move to Mid-Ohio (WT-en) 2old 16:39, 9 July 2007 (EDT) Hmmm. Not quite sure what to do. There is a Sugar Creek and a Sugarcreek. Sugarcreek is right and this content needs to be moved there. It is also in Mid-Ohio. (WT-en) 2old 12:57, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

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Should be part of Rhodes article
Hi Christian. Thanks very much for contributing this really useful information about day-trips from Rhodes. Thing is that we can hardly have a page called "Suggested Day-Trips" for a particular destination. Think of all the other pages which could link here too. The usual place for this info is right there in the Rhodes article under Get out.

You might want to look at Project:What is an article? and Project:Big city article template, and Project:Where you can stick it among other bits of documentation.

Anyhow, I'm going to shortly recommend this page for Project:Votes for deletion. Please don't take this to mean that your contribution isn't welcome; it is! We just have to make sure that travellers who visit the site can find it.

Thanks again! -- (WT-en) Mark 10:54, 8 Aug 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Sukhothai

TAT Listings
I placed some TAT listings from the province page at Talk:Sukhothai/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 13:42, 5 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Sukhothai/Listings

By Plane
The Bangkok Airways Co., Ltd., operates daily flights from Bangkok to Sukhothai. For more information, contact the Bangkok office Tel. 0 2265 5678, 0 2265 5555, Sukhothai office Tel. 0 5564 7224 - 5, or visit http://www.bangkokair.com.

Alternatively, Thai Airways International Public Company Limited offers Bangkok - Phitsanulok flights daily. Contact the Bangkok office Tel. 0 2356 1111, 0 2628 2000, 0 2288 7000. One further commutes by car to Sukhothai. For flight schedules, Tel. 1566, 0 2280 0060, 0 2628 2000, Phitsanulok office Tel. 0 5524 2971 – 2, or visit http://www.thaiairways.com.

By Train
There are no trains going directly to Sukhothai. One may travel by the daily express train or diesel railcar from the Bangkok Railway Station (Hua Lamphong) to Phitsanulok and then take a local bus to Sukhothai, about 59 kilometres away. For more information, contact the Travelling Service Unit, State Railway of Thailand, Tel. 1690, 0 2220 4334, 0 2220 4444 or visit http://www.railway.co.th.

Or you can catch the train which has the desination at Sawankalok which is one of the district in Sukhothai. It is the direct line from Haulumpong to Sukhothai.

By Bus
Take the daily air-conditioned or ordinary bus from the Bangkok Northern Bus Terminal (Mo Chit 2) on Kamphaeng Phet 2 Road to Sukhothai. The journey takes 7 hours. For more information, contact the Transport Company Limited, Tel. 0 2537 8055 - 6, 0 2936 2852 - 66, or visit www.transport.co.th. Sukhothai Bus Terminal, Tel. 0 5561 3296.

In addition, there are private bus services; namely, Win Tour, Co., Ltd., Tel. 0 5561 1039, Bangkok office Tel. 0 2936 3753, and Phitsanulok Yan Yon Co., Ltd., Tel. 0 5525 8647, 0 5525 8941, Bangkok office Tel. 0 2936 2924 - 5.

By Car
From Bangkok: 2 routes
 * 1) Travel along Highway No. 1 onto Highway No. 101 via the provinces of Nakhon Sawan and Kamphaeng Phet. Proceed further via Amphoe Phran Kratai and Amphoe Khiri Mat towards Sukhothai. The total distance is 440 kilometres.
 * 2) Proceed along Highway No. 1. at Km. 50, switch to Highway No. 32 via Amphoe Bang Pa-in T-junction in Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya province. Travel through Ayutthaya towards Nakhon Sawan. Proceed further onto Highway No. 117 for Phitsanulok and switch to Highway No. 12 for Sukhothai. This route is 427 kilometres.

Get around
For relative short distance tourists can take a rickshaw (Sam Lor). Short rides within the city cost between 20 and 30 baht. Longer rides may cost as much as 50 baht.

Tuk-Tuks (three-wheeled motorized rickshaws) are also popular for short and quick journeys. Fares must be bargained in advance.

The most common means of transport is songthaew. They look like pick-up trucks but with a roof over the back. They pick up as many passengers as they can and drop them off as the drivers reach their destinations. To go by songthaew, simply tell the driver your destination. Fares range from 20-30 baht according to the distance.

Motorbikes can be hired in the city but it is advised to be extremely careful when hiring a motorbike and only use a reputable agency.

Motorbike taxis can be found all over town and they are quickest way to go, splendid for very short journeys. There are local bus services from the new city to the old.

Amphoe Mueang Sukhothai
Phra Mae Ya Shrine (ศาลพระแม่ย่า) Situated in front of the City Hall, Thanon Nikhon Kasem, by the Yom River, the shrine is highly respected by Sukhothai residents. It houses an idol of Phra Mae Ya, a stone figure with a long face, tapered chin, long halo, and dressed as an ancient queen. The idol is about 1 metre high and is supposed to have been built during King Ramkhamhaeng the Great’s reign as a dedication to his late mother Nang Sueang. In this connection, the word Phra Mae Ya or grandmother in Thai is literally a term of endearment since the local people regard King Ramkhamhaeng the Great as their father. The statue was formerly housed in a rock shelter of Phra Mae Ya Mountain. The Sukhothai residents later relocated it to the present shrine situated in front of the City Hall. The shrine is also believed to house the spirit of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great. The Phra Mae Ya Fair is held annually in late February.

To get there: A local bus service operates from the municipality to the shrine.

Sangkhalok Museum (พิพิธภัณฑ์สังคโลกสุโขทัย) It is located within Mueang Ake Plaza, Thanon By-pass, just 12 kilometres off the old city. The museum displays more than 2,000 pieces of Sangkhalok ceramic wares collected from various sources both locally and internationally. It is open daily from 8.00 a.m.- 5.00 p.m. Admission fees for adults and children are 100 and 50 baht, respectively. For more information, Tel. 0 5561 4333.

To get there: Use the local bus or the tricycle services from the market to the museum.

Fish Museum (พิพิธภัณฑ์ปลาในวรรณคดีเฉ��ิมพระเกียรติ) This is located in the Rama IX Park, along Highway No. 12, on the Sukhothai – Phitsanulok route. The museum is on the right-hand side. It displays a variety of fresh water fish mentioned in Thailiterature such as the travel poems titled Kap Ho Khlong Nirat Phra Bat and Kap Ho Khlong Praphat Than Thongdaeng, and the Kap He Ruea boat song by Chaofa Thammathibet (Chaofa Kung). It is open daily except Tuesdays from 9.00 a.m. – 5.00 p.m. There is no admission fee. To get there: It is accessible by taking the Phitsanulok – Sukhothai bus from the bus terminal to the Rama IX Park.

Ramkhamhaeng National Museum (พิพิธภัณฑสถานแห่งชาติรามคำแหง) Located on the right side of the Sukhothai Historical Park, the Ramkhamhaeng National Museum houses many artefacts found from archaeological excavations in Sukhothai, as well as, those given by the locals. The museum is divided into three premises:

 * 1) Lai Sue Thai Chet Roi Pi Memorial Building: This new building in front of the major premises exhibits various artefacts from the Sukhothai era such as Buddha images, tools, crockery, celedon and Sangkhalok ceramic wares, and stone inscriptions.
 * 2) Museum Building: There are two zones: downstairs displays artefacts obtained from the surveys, excavations and restorations of ancient remains of Sukhothai, Si Satchanalai, and Kamphaeng Phet. Upstairs, displays the Sukhothai’s stone inscriptions, bronze Buddha images, images of gods, Sangkhalok water jars, ancient weapons, Sangkhalok celedon wares, ancient money, and water pipes, which virtually demonstrated the ancient Sukhothai’s water dyke control system.
 * 3) Outdoor Museum: Located just outside surrounding the major premises, the outdoor museum houses many art objects and antiques such as stone Buddha images, stone carvings, Thai-style houses, replica of an ancient kiln, and stone Thammachak or Wheel of the Doctrine.

Open daily from 9.30 a.m. – 4.00 p.m. The admission fee is 30 baht. Alternatively, a 30-day package for visiting all the historical parks in the province is available at 150 baht. For a group tour, contact the Ramkhamhaeng National Museum in advance at Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Mueang Kao, Amphoe Mueang, Sukhothai, 64210, Tel/Fax. 0 5569 7367, or visit http://www.thailandmuseum.com.

Sukhothai Historical Park or Old Sukhothai City (อุทยานประวัติศาสตร์สุโขทัยหรือเมืองเก่าสุโขทัย) UNESCO world heritage site of the ancient capital of Sukhothai which was famous for it's palaces, temples and other magnificent structures.

Opposite the Ramkhamhaeng National Museum, Sukhothai Historical Park is located 12 kilometres from the provincial city, on Charotwithithong Road, along the Sukhothai - Tak route (Highway No. 12). The park covers the ruins of the ancient glorious Sukhothai Kingdom. UNESCO declared it a World Heritage Site in December 1991. During its golden age, Sukhothai was the centre for administration, religion, and economy.

Sukhothai Historical Park comprises the ruins of royal palaces, Buddhist temples, and historical monuments, where the ancient moats, walls, and city gates form a rectangle shape.

Places of interest in Sukhothai Historical Park are as follows: Inside the city wall

King Ramkhamhaeng the Great Monument (พระบรมราชานุสาวรีย์พ่อขุนรามคำแหงมหาราช) The monument was built in 1975 and situated on Charotwithithong Road, north of Wat Mahathat. The bronze statue of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great (The statue is approximately twice the size of the king standing at 3 metres high) sits on a throne called Phra Thaen Manangkhasila. The right hand holds a scripture while the left hand is in a teaching gesture to the people. On the left side of the throne, a sword is placed upon a tray. The facial expression of the statue is like that of Buddha images of the early Sukhothai period and clearly conveys King Ramkhamhaeng the Great’s benevolence, love of justice, and decisiveness. The base relief records the activities of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great as stated in the Sukhothai inscriptions. The Wall of the Old City (กำแพงเมืองสุโขทัย) Located in Tambon Mueang Kao, the city wall was depicted in the stone inscription as Tribun or a triple wall. The city has a rectangular plan measuring 1,300 metres wide and 1,800 metres long. It is surrounded by an earthen rampart topped with laterite as the inner wall, with a double alternate moat-and-mound outer enclosure. The moats also served as drainage to prevent flooding. In between each side stand the city gates and the forts in the centre. Wat Mahathat (วัดมหาธาตุ) Located in the heart of the old town, Wat Mahathat was the largest and principal temple of the Sukhothai Kingdom. It is distinguished by a customary main chedi or pagoda in a Lotus-bud shape, a typical Sukhothai style. Surrounding the chedi are eight smaller pagodas on the same base, which comprise 4 laterite corn-shaped prangs at 4 cardinal points and 4 pagodas in the Lanna style at the 4 corners. According to a survey, there are up to 200 pagodas of various styles, 10 wihans or image halls, 8 mondops or square structures, 1 ubosot or ordination hall, and 4 ponds within Wat Mahathat alone. To the east of the main chedi stands a large laterite wihan formerly containing Thailand’s largest seated bronze Buddha image Phra Si Sakaya Muni. The image has been relocated to Wat Suthat in Bangkok. To the north and south feature mondops housing a standing Buddha image called Phra Attharot. Wat Chana Songkhram (วัดชนะสงคราม) Situated to the north of Wat Mahathat and near to the town pillar shrine, Wat Chana Songkhram was formerly known as Wat Ratchaburana. Its imposing building is the main chedi in a bell shape of vast size. There is also a wihan, ordination hall, and subordinate chedis surrounding the main one.

Noen Prasat Phra Ruang or the Royal Palace (เนินปราสาทพระร่วง หรือ เขตพระราชวังในสมัยสุโขทัย) The royal palace is situated to the east, adjacent to Wat Mahathat. King Rama VI assumed that this area was the royal compound. The Fine Arts Department restored it in 1983, and the excavation revealed the ruins of the base of a royal building built on a grand scale with receding tiers in the form of overturned and upturned lotuses. The base is a tall rectangular shape measuring 27.5 x 51.5 metres with stairs in the front and at the back.

Wat Traphang Ngoen (วัดตระพังเงิน) Situated near Traphang Ngoen Pond 300 metres to the west of Wat Mahathat is Wat Traphang Ngoen with its customary main chedi in a lotus-bud shape with 4 stucco standing Buddha images in 4 niches at 4 directions. There is also a walking Buddha image, wihan in front, while to the east sees an island where an ubosot is located.

Wat Sa Si (วัด���ระศรี) Situated northwest of Wat Mahathat is Wat Sa Si. A round Ceylonese-style chedi is the main sanctuary located on an island in the middle of the Traphang Trakuan Pond. In front of the chedi, stands a large wihan, which houses a stucco Buddha image in the Subduing Mara posture, while to the south lies a small chedi in the Ceylonese – Sri Vijaya style containing niches of Buddha images on 4 sides. Also, directly in front of this wihan is an ubosot on a small island. Wat Sa Si is renowned for its scenic spot.

Wat Si Sawai (วัดศรีสวาย) Situated 350 metres south of Wat Mahathat is Wat Si Sawai. The highlight of this temple is the 3 Lop Buri-style stupas. These corn-shaped stupas are quite slim with certain parts of its stucco relief décor on a low base resembling the pattern on the bone china from the Yuan Dynasty. There is evidence that this temple was originally a Hindu shrine. During an excavation, a lintel showing the reclining Vishnu, as well as, fragments of images of divinities and of a Sivalinga were found. The shrine was later converted into a Buddhist temple by adding a wihan in front.

San Ta Pha Daeng (ศาลตาผาแดง) The San Ta Pha Daeng assembles a single laterite tower dating from the first half of the 12th century and belonging to the Angkor Wat style of Khmer art. During the excavation and restoration by the Fine Arts Department, fragments from images of bejewelled Brahmanical divinities were found, now displayed in the Ramkhamhaeng National Museum.

Outside the City Wall

Sites in the North  Tourist Service Centre (ศูนย์บริการนักท่องเที่ยวอุทยานประวัติศาสตร์สุโขทัย) Situated in front of Wat Phra Phai Luang, this tourist centre in traditional Thai architecture of the Sukhothai style provides information for tourists visiting the Sukhothai Historical Park. A model of the old city of Sukhothai is also on exhibition here. To get the overview picture of this place, this is an ideal spot to start.

Ruins of the Old Celadon Factory (Thuriang Kilns) (แหล่งเครื่องปั้นดินเผาสุโขทัย หรือ เตาทุเรียง) The Thuriang Kilns, which may have been founded in the late 13th century, are situated near the ‘Mae Chon’ city moat near Wat Phra Phai Luang. This is a site where Sukhothai celadons were made. So far, 49 kilns have been discovered in 3 different areas: 37 lie north of the moat, 9 to the south, near the city wall, and 3 to the east. The vaulted brick kilns measure 1.5 – 2 metres wide and 4.5 metres long. The ceramic wares found here are generally large bowls and jars; they have a matt yellowish grey glaze, and a design, usually of a flower, a fish, or a whirling circle, painted in black.

Wat Phra Phai Luang (วัดพระพายหลวง) A large temple, Wat Phra Phai Luang is the second most important temple in Sukhothai – next to Wat Mahathat. Its rectangular plan is surrounded by 3-line moats, with Khu Mae Chon forming the outermost enclosure. It is believed that Wat Phra Phai Luang may have been the centre of the original city. The most prominent feature here is the 3 main laterite prangs, which are in the Bayon style of Khmer art dating back to the period of King Jayavarman VII. A mondop in front contains stucco Buddha images in 4 postures: sitting, reclining, standing, and walking.

Wat Si Chum (วัดศรีชุม) Situated 800 metres west of Wat Phra Phai Luang is Wat Si Chum. A wihan in the form of a square mondop, which is the main sanctuary, houses a large monumental stucco Buddha image in the attitude of subduing Mara called “Phra Atchana”, which is 11.3 metres in width. The roof has already disintegrated, exposing just 4 walls of stuccoed bricks. There is a narrow passageway in the south wall with steps leading up to the side of the Buddha image and onto the top part of the wall. On the wall of the passageway features 700-year-old fainted paintings while on the ceiling are more than 50 engraved slate slabs illustrating Jataka scenes. A spectacular panoramic view of the Sukhothai Ancient City is visible on the rooftop accessible by the passageway.

To boost morale of the ancient soldiers was the main reason for such mystery in Wat Si Chum. The kings of the Phra Ruang Dynasty were famous for that. One could go through the hidden passageway and address the people through a hole, making them believe the voice they were hearing was actually the Buddha's. There are no windows here. It is believed that a vaulted roof probably covered the wihan.

Sites in the West

Wat Chang Rop (วัดช้างรอบ) Situated 2.4 kilometres west of Pratu O, a city gate, the most prominent feature is the circular stupa in the Ceylonese bell shape, from whose square-base the heads of 24 elephants protrude. The ordination hall lies in front of the main stupa, both are surrounded by 5 other smaller stupas.

Wat Saphan Hin (วัดสะพานหิน) This is situated on a hill 200 metres high, where a 300-metre pathway of slate slabs leads to the sanctuary yard. A Buddha image called Phra Attharot, 12.5 metres high, in the Granting Pardons posture stands elegantly in the compound.

Saritphong Dam or Thamnop Phra Ruang (เขื่อนสรีดภงค์ หรือ ทำนบพระร่วง) Situated in the old city, Saritphong Dam, now restored by the Irrigation Department, comprises earthenworks that stretched between Khao Phra Bat Yai and Khao Kio Ai Ma. There was a spillway and pipes to carry water across canals towards the city gates to be further reserved at the Traphang Ngoen and Traphang Thong Ponds. Water from these reservoirs was used in the old city and the palace of Sukhothai. The ancient word for a source of water is Sok or stream. In this connection, various water sources from Khao Prathak include Sok Phra Ruang Long Phra Khan, Sok Phra Ruang Lap Phra Khan, Sok Phama Fon Hok, and Sok Chomphu where King Rama VI once paid a royal visit.

Sites in the South

Wat Chetuphon (วัดเชตุพน) A mondop enshrines 4 Buddha images in different postures: sitting, reclining, standing, and walking. They were made of bricks, slate, and laterite. Another striking character of Wat Chetuphon is a boundary wall enclosing the mondop with 4 porches. Made of thick slate of a large size, the wall has a frame and balustrade, imitating woodwork. According to the stone inscription number 98 built in 1514, Chao Thammarangsi made a Buddha image in this temple.

Wat Chedi Si Hong (วัด��จดีย์สี่ห้อง) This temple is situated 100 metres to the east of Wat Chetuphon. Stucco reliefs decorated around the base of the main chedi depict male and female figures in different attire with ornaments and their hands holding vessels of vines and flowers or ‘Purnaghata’, symbolizing fertility and prosperity. Decorative stucco also includes elephant and lion figures. The main chedi in a bell shape was repaired. At present, the upper part of the chedi is in ruins.

Sites in the East

Wat Chang Lom (วัดช้างล้อม) The temple consists of a bell-shaped chedi of Ceylonese influence standing as the centre. The chedi is situated on a base with a platform decorated with a row of elephants seen by their front halves supporting the round chedi. In addition, there is the base of a brick wihan in the front, and ruins of a boundary wall to enclose the whole temple.

Wat Traphang Thonglang (วัดตระพังทองหลาง) It is situated along Charotwithithong Road. By proceeding from Sukhothai provincial town, this temple is visible on the left-hand side. A square mondop made of brick is the main sanctuary. The outer wall of the mondop features stucco reliefs depicting scenes from the story of Lord Buddha; namely, descending from Tavatimsa heaven, preaching to his father, relatives, as well as, his wife. These stucco figures are masterpieces of Sukhothai art.

In this connection, the whole site of Sukhothai Historical Park covers an area of approximately 70 square kilometres. Other recommended attractions tourists can enjoy are as follows:

 * Eastern Zone -		Wat Chedi Sung and Wat Ko Mai Daeng
 * Western Zone -		Wat Phra Bat Noi, Wat Chedi Ngam, Wat Mangkon, Wat Aranyik and Wat Chang Rop
 * Southern Zone -	Wat Si Phichit Kirati Kanlayaram, Wat Ton Chan, and Wat Asokaram

The admission fee is 40 baht. Alternatively, a 30-day package for visiting all the historical parks in Sukhothai is available at 150 baht. Open daily from 6.00 a.m. – 9.00 p.m. (ticketing is closed at 6.00 p.m.).

Remarks: A historical site night tour is available around 7.00 – 9.00 p.m. There is an entry charge for vehicles. Within the parking lot, there are tram services and rental bicycles to explore around the area (20 baht).

For group tours, as well as requesting a guide, please contact the Tourist Service Centre, Sukhothai Historical Park, Tambon Mueang Kao, Amphoe Mueang, Sukhothai 64210, Tel. 0 5569 7527, 0 5569 7241.

To get there: From the provincial city of Sukhothai, take the local mini-bus or Song Thaeo near the police box, within Mueang Kao area. Get off at the park’s entrance. The bus leaves every 20 minutes.

Amphoe Khiri Mat
Ramkhamhaeng National Park (Khao Luang) (อุทยานแห่งชาติรามคำแหง หรือ เขาหล���ง) With an area of approximately 213,215 rai covering Amphoe Mueang, Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi, and Amphoe Khiri Mat, Ramkhamhaeng National Park was declared Thailand’s first historical national park on 27 October, 1980, because of its interesting nexus of preserving natural attractions and historical sites. Formerly known as Khao Luang, it was renamed Ramkhamhaeng in honour of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great during the official declaration as a national park. In addition, the former name coincides with the Khao Luang National Park of Nakhon Si Thammarat province. Another notable geographic feature of this park is the Khao Luang Range. The fauna include bantengs, barking deer, bears, wild pigs, kingfishers, and swallows. Some of the important flora within the park are teak, Malabar ironwood, Siamese sal, Shorea siamensis, herbal and medicinal plants. In addition to this, various waterfalls and historical caves are worth exploring.

Topography and climate: The majority of the park’s land is within the contours of the Khao Luang Mountain Range. This mountain range is situated on a north-south axis. Khao Luang is like a giant anthill in the middle of a rice field, for it is surrounded by low farmland. The high country of the Khao Luang Range is known for its year-round comfortable cool weather, where the average temperature is between 12 – 14 degrees Celsius. Winter and rainy seasons can be foggy. The weather in December and January is quite comfortable. In general, the best time to visit the park is during the cool season (September through February).

Interesting attractions within Ramkhamhaeng National Park

Khao Luang Mountain Range: It is 1,200 metres above sea level. Khao Luang has steep cliffs with its highest summit in the southern part of Sukhothai. Within the high country is the savannah, as well as, the 4 main peaks, which offer beautiful views. The first is Khao Narai Peak standing at 1,160 metres above sea level. It houses the Royal Thai Air Force’s telecommunication station, which covers an area of 25 rai. Khao Narai boasts a beautifully steep cliff, an ideal recreational spot, where a panoramic view of the area is visible. Tourists can enjoy the city of Sukhothai and Phitsanulok lit up at night. Khao Phra Mae Ya Peak is 1,200 metres above sea level. It was formerly a meditation ground for Phra Mae Ya. Khao Phu Ka Peak and Khao Phra Chedi Peak stand at 1,200 and 1,185 metres above sea level, respectively. From these peaks, a bird's-eye view of Sukhothai’s ancient dam and the city itself are virtually visible.

Savannah: Located in the high country of the Khao Luang Range, this savannah covers an area of approximately 3,000 rai, and contains various grasses and herbs.

Sai Ngam: This large banyan tree or Sai, which spreads its branches into a beautiful canopy, is located along the main Khao Luang hiking trail. This is an ideal recreational spot.

Plong Nang Nak: About 320 metres from the banyan tree is located Plong Nang Nak hole, a 0.5-metre-wide and 1.5-metre-long vertical natural chimney. The depth is immeasurable. According to the Northern Chronicles about the myths of Phra Ruang, the ruler was in the Khao Luang range in order to keep the Buddhist precepts.

Herbs and Medicinal Plants: There are hundreds of herbs and medicinal plants in the national park such as prickly leaved elephants’ foot, Harpullia arborea, Brisbane lily, Schefflera leucantha, and birch.

Suan Lum or Suan Lumphini: It is a herbal garden situated at the foot of Khao Luang.

The Ramkhamhaeng National Park’s headquarters is located here on the eastern side of Khao Luang.

Pratu Prawattisat or Historical Gates: Situated to the north of Suan Lum or the Ramkhamhaeng National Park’s headquarters is Pratu Pa. To the west is Pratu Makha, which is located at Sukhothai’s outpost town, while to the east is Pratu Plueai situated at the park’s checkpoint. Last but not least is Prutu Phra Ruang on the southern end of Suan Lum. Legend has it that Phra Ruang came to fly kites through this gate.

Namtok Sai Rung: Situated to the west of the Khao Luang Range, this beautifully renowned waterfall is fed by the sources on the high country of the Khao Phra Chedi Peak and further flows into a stream called Khlong Phai Na. Then, it runs southwest and cascades from a huge high cliff. The water turns into a rainbow as the sun shines onto it, hence, the name Sai Rung in Thai. This phenomenon is visible during 11.00 a.m. – 4.00 p.m. The ranger station is located within the waterfall’s area, which is 50 metres from the park. It is possible to swim in each of its 4 levels. One must start trekking upstream from the ranger station at 800 metres, 900 metres, 1,160 metres, and 1,200 metres, respectively.

To get there from Sukhothai, take Highway No. 101 (Sukhothai - Khiri Mat route). When arriving in Amphoe Khiri Mat, proceed for 18 kilometres and take a right turn at the T-junction. Travel via Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi for 13 kilometres and take another right turn at the T-junction. Proceed 4 kilometres further before arriving at the park. Buddha's Footprint: This slate structure with 108 auspicious carved marks, housed at the foot of the Khao Tham Phrabat, was created in the reign of Phra Maha Thammaracha Lithai. It is about 600 years old.

Prang Khao Pucha: This large brick stupa, once a religious place of worship for travellers, is situated on a small hill near the park. It is in the Baphuon style of Khmer art and is believed to have been built about 1,500 years ago.

Tham Phra Narai: Legend has it that a Radiating Avalokitesvara statue was found in this cave. The locals thought it was the God of protection Phra Narai or Vishnu. However, all that remains today is the base of the statue.

Tham Phra Mae Ya: A statue of Phra Mae Ya was formerly housed at this rock shelter. The residents later relocated it to the present shrine situated in front of the City Hall.

Thanon Phra Ruang: It is believed that this historic road was built about 700 years ago, as a strategic route connecting Kamphaeng Phet to Si Satchanalai via Sukhothai. The approximate length of this road is 123 kilometres. It may be considered Thailand’s first highway.

In addition to this, the park offers a 3-kilometre hiking trail, which runs from the park’s headquarters and passes the herbal garden, dry evergreen forest, banyan tree, soil and rock strata, leading to Namtok Hin Rang. The trip takes 2 hours. There are nature interpretation signs along the way.

Admission fees for adults and children are 200 and 100 Baht, respectively. The porter fee is available at 10 baht/kilogramme. Contact the park directly.

Accommodation: The Ramkhamhaeng National Park provides accommodation of 3 houses, maximum stay of 6 -10 people each, at a rate of 500 baht/night. Rental tents with a maximum stay of 2 – 8 people are available between 50 – 200 baht/night. A camping site charges 30 baht/person/night. For more information, contact the Ramkhamhaeng National Park, P.O. Box 1, Amphoe Khiri Mat, Sukhothai 64160, Tel. 0 5561 9200 – 1, Bangkok office: Tel. 0 2562 0760, or visit http://www.dnp.go.th.

To get there: (By car) From Bangkok, take Highway No. 32, via Nakhon Sawan, and turn left onto Highway No. 1 to Kamphaeng Phet. Switch to Highway No. 101 for Amphoe Khiri Mat. About 20 kilometres before arriving in Sukhothai, at Km. 414, a mountain range is visible on the left-hand side. Take a left turn and proceed 16 kilometres further for the park’s headquarters.

Local Transportation: From Amphoe Khiri Mat, hire a local mini-bus or Song Thaeo at the Khiri Mat junction. The prices range between 350 – 400 baht.

Tips for Visiting Khao Luang National Park

 * Tourists are subject to start trekking before 3.30 p.m.
 * Bring enough food if spending the night on the mountain.
 * Tourists should be physically healthy. Bring along essential items like jacket, hat, flashlight, medicine, and dry grocery.

Amphoe Sawankhalok
Sawankhaworanayok National Museum (พิพิธภัณฑสถานแห่งชาติสวรรควรนายก) It is located at Tambon Mueang Sawankhalok, which is behind Wat Sawankharam (Wat Klang), approximately 38 kilometres from the provincial city of Sukhothai. Proceed left for another 1.6 kilometres. The exhibits are in a two-storey building. Upstairs houses sculptural collections from various periods, mostly those formerly collected within the compound of Wat Sawankharam and offered by Phra Sawankhaworanayok. In addition, there are Buddha images, relocated from the Ramkhamhaeng National Museum, from the pre-Sukhothai to the early Ayutthaya period. Sangkhalok crockery excavated from the ancient kiln sites of Ban Ko Noi and Ban Pa Yang of Amphoe Si Satchanalai, as well as, various wares retrieved from sunken vessels in the Gulf of Thailand are displayed downstairs. Open daily except Mondays, Tuesdays, and public holidays. Operating hours are during 8.30 a.m. – 4.30 p.m. Admission fee is 30 baht. For group tours and guide service, Tel. 0 5564 1571, 0 5564 3166, or visit http://www.thailandmuseum.com. Suan Luang Phra Ruang Chaloem Phra Kiat or Phra Ruang Park (Thung Mae Rawing) (สวนหลวงพระร่วงเฉลิมพระเกียรติ (ทุ่งแม่ระวิง)) It is located at Mu. 9, Tambon Pa Kum Ko. Originally a large swamp, this park currently covers 830 rai: 645 rai of water, and 185 rai of land. An island of scenic beauty, due to its geographical form, this park marks an ideal recreational area. Various activities include crossing the old 300-metre wooden bridge and paying homage to the following idols: Phra Ruang statue at the Phra Ruang’s circle - situated at the island’s entrance, Kwan Yin statue, and Pu Kok shrine - situated near the Pa Kum Ko Sub-district Administration Organization. In addition, tourists can enjoy resting at the pavilions along the path, as well as, see the picturesque view around the island, mixed cultivation farming project, which includes paddy farming, horticulture, and poultry rearing. Furthermore, there is a farmer’s museum housing various ancient farming equipment and showcasing the traditional lifestyle of Sukhothai farmers. Tourists will also find a herbal demonstration garden, sapling nursery, and building selling products of Sukhothai.

Amphoe Thung Saliam
Luangpho Sila (หลวงพ่อศิลา) This Buddha image was formerly enshrined at Tham Chao Ram, deep in the forest close to Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi. It was relocated to Wat Thung Saliam during 1929 -1932. However, on 29 October, 1977, the Buddha image was stolen and sold in an auction in the U.K. Fortunately, it was found and later brought back to Wat Thung Saliam.

Wat Phiphat Mongkhon (วัดพิพัฒน์มงคล) This is where the golden Sukhothai-style Buddha image, made of 9-kilogramme gold, or Phra Phutthasukhophothong, in the subduing Mara attitude, is enshrined.

Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi
Tham Chao Ram (ถ้ำเจ้าราม) This cave, formerly called Tham Phra Ram - mentioned in the famous stone inscription of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great - is located in Tambon Wang Nam Khao. The name, somehow, later became Tham Chao Ram. Evidence shows that this cave was a recreational area of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great. It has beautiful surroundings, an ideal raid shelter, spacious, bears a hole for sunlight, and, features the stone inscription. It is also home to many bats (Suborder Microchiroptera) like the wrinkled-lipped bat (tadarida plicata). They forage at night in dense flocks.

To get there: It is accessible by car. The total distance from Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi to Tham Chao Ram is 30 kilometres. The trip takes 45 minutes. Alternatively, from the provincial city of Sukhothai, proceed along the Sukhothai - Thung Saliam route. The distance is 67 kilometres. Then, proceed further onto the laterite Ro Pho Cho road of the Thung Saliam - Amphoe Ban Dan Lan Hoi route. The distance is 19 kilometres. The total distance to the Tham Chao Ram Wildlife Sanctuary is 86 kilometres. Visitors should bring a change of clothes because the cave is full of the bats’ faeces. A torch is recommended. Contact, Tel. 0 5551 1142 or 0 5568 9024.

Do
Agrotourism

Cycling Route along the Orchards Travel via Highway No. 101 (Sukhothai – Phrae) to Amphoe Sawankhalok. Turn right for Tambon Khlong Krachong. Proceed some 2 kilometres further for Bunchop Em-im Orchard, Tel: 08 1888 1739. Enjoy cycling around the orchard and taste a variety of fruits like pomelo, santol, sapodilla, coconut, star fruit, various kinds of bananas, as well as, the tasty and fleshy plum mango (Bouae Macrophylla) with its chicken-egged size. Then, proceed towards Tambon Ban Tuek by taking a right turn onto Highway No. 102 (Amphoe Si Satchanalai – Uttaradit) at Tambon Hat Siao. Turn left for some 30 kilometres for the Tambon Ban Tuek Community of Amphoe Si Satchanalai. This is a small and peaceful community filled with trees, paddy fields, and scenic mountain ranges, while tourists can enjoy the traditional life of fruit growers. Different types of fruits grown along the hilly terrain include longkong, langsat, mangosteen, durian, banana, pomelo, rambeh, and rambutan. Contact the Si Satchanalai District Agricultural Office, Tel. 0 5567 1036, or Village Headman, Mr. Saneh Mueangmun, Tel. 08 1395 7183.

Eco & Soft Adventure Tourism

Cycling Route: The Old Town of Sukhothai. Trips within the Sukhothai Historical Park can be made by the rental bike service available in front of the Park. Contact the Tourist Service Centre, Tel. 0 5569 7241.

Spa

As spa is very famous through out the country, even Sukhothai is not left behind. There is the well known Ananda Spa at Ananda Museum Gallery Hotel in Sukhothai.

Spas in Hotels/Resorts

Ananda Spa at Ananda Museum Gallery Hotel.

Events and Festivals
King Ramkhamhaeng the Great Memorial Fair (งานวันพ่อขุนรามคำแหงมหาราช) It is held annually during 15 – 17 January at the King Ramkhamhaeng the Great Monument, Sukhothai Historical Park. The fair features many ceremonies to pay respect to King Ramkhamhaeng the Great. Participate in alms-giving, religious ceremony, procession, offering ceremony, as well as, enjoy the fireworks, and various kinds of entertainment, which will be held day and night. Contact Sukhothai Historical Park, Tel: 0 5569 7310.

Phra Mae Ya Homage Paying Fair and Sukhothai Red Cross Fair (งานสักการะพระแม่ย่าและงานกาชาดจังหวัดสุโขทัย) This is held at the beginning of February every year around the Sukhothai City Hall, Nirakasem Road, Tambon Thani. A procession paying homage to Phra Mae Ya, a local sports competition, an exhibition, a local handicraft demonstration, and entertainment, are held. Contact, Tel. 0 5561 0086.

Songkran and Mueang Sawankhalok Festival (งานประเพณีสงกรานต์และเทศกาลเมืองสวรรคโลก) This takes place during 11-15 April annually on the bank of the Yom River, in front of Wat Sawang Arom, by the Yom River, and at the Stadium of the Sawankhalok Municipal School. The procession of Miss Songkran, the Sawankhalok Food Festival, ceremonies of giving alms to monks, and bathing rituals for Buddha images and monks are performed in the festival.

Hae Nam Khuen Hong Festival (งานประเพณีแห่น้ำขึ้นโฮง) This is organized annually during 18 – 19 April at the plaza of Chaopho Mueang Dong Monument, Tambon Ban Tuek, Amphoe Si Satchanalai. The ceremony is held to honour “Muen Nakhon” or “Chaopho Mueang Dong”, the establisher of Dong City. He was talented and courageous, as well as, specialized in catching elephants and utilising them in war. Later, he was executed to prove his loyalty to King Tilokkarat. Then, the villagers organized a ceremony to pay homage to Chaopho Mueang Dong by preparing a more-than-50-elephant parade wonderfully decorated, passing the village to pay respect to the shrine of Chaopho Khao Mung, and onward to the plaza of Chaopho Mueang Dong Monument to pay homage to Chaopho Mueang Dong. For more information contact, the Ban Tuek Sub-district Administration Organization, Tel. 0 5567 7200.

Loi Krathong and Candle Festival (งานลอยกระทงเผาเทียนเล่นไฟ) Sukhothai’s Loi Krathong is held annually on the full moon night of the 12th lunar month at the Sukhothai Historical Park. Activities during the festival include krathong or banana-leaf cup floating, a fireworks display, local games, processions, and traditional performances that reflect the lifestyle of the people as described in the stone inscription amid the glamorous atmosphere of the Sukhothai Historical Park, as well as, a light and sound presentation.

Khao Luang Winning Day (งานวันพิชิตยอดเขาหลวง) This is a yearly event that Sukhothai province has organized for tourists and the local people to climb up to the summit of Khao Luang in the Ramkhamhaeng National Park, Amphoe Khiri Mat. The event is held around November every year. More details are available at the Ramkhamhaeng National Park, Tel. 0 5561 9200-1 or the Sukhothai Public Relations Office, Tel. 0 5561 2286.

Amphoe Mueang Sukhothai

 * 99 Guesthouse (ไนน์ตี้ไนน์ เกสต์เฮาส์) 234/6 Soi Phanit San, Charotwithithong Road, Tel: 0 5561 1315, 089-8589864, 3 rooms: 150 - 180 Baht.
 * Ananda Museum Gallery (อนันดา มิวเซียม แกลลอรี่) 10 Mu.4 Bypass road, Tambon Ban Lum, Tel: 0 5562 2428 – 30, 089-4366322, Fax: 0 5562 1885, email: reservation@ananda-hotel.com, www.anandasukhothai.com, 32 rooms: 2,500 – 3,100 Baht.
 * Ban Thai Guesthouse (บ้านไทย เกสต์เฮาส์) 38 Prawet Nakhon Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5561 0163, 17 rooms and 7 bungalows: 120 - 300 Baht, E-mail: banthai_guesthouse@yahoo.com                                                                                *Chinnawat (ชินวัตร) 123 Tambon Thani, Nikon Kasem Road, Tel: 0 5561 1385, 35 rooms: 150 - 350 Baht.
 * Lotus Village (โลตัส วิลเลจ) 170 Ratchathani Road, Tel: 0 5562 1484, Fax: 0 5562 1463, email: lotusvill@yahoo.com, www.lotus-village.com  20 rooms: 600 - 900 baht, 5 bungalows: 800 – 900 baht, 1 houses: 500 - 1,350 Baht.
 * Number Four Guesthouse (นัมเบอร์ โฟร์ เกสต์เฮาส์) 140/4 Soi Mae Ramphan, Charotwithithong Road, Tel: 0 5561 0165, 10 rooms: 300 - 400 Baht.
 * Phailin Sukhothai (ไพลินสุโขทัย) 10/2 Mu 1, Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Mueang Kao, Tel: 0 5563 3335 – 9, Fax: 0 5561 3317, 230 rooms: 950 - 3,500 Baht.
 * Ratchathani (ราชธานี) 229 Charotwithithong Road, Tel: 0 5561 2877, 055-611031, Fax: 0 5561 2878, 83 rooms: 500 - 700 Baht.
 * River View (ริเวอร์วิว) 92 - 92/1 Nikon Kasem Road, Tambon Thanee Tel: 0 5561 1656, 055-611372-3 Fax: 0 5561 3373, 52 rooms: 350 - 600 Baht.
 * Ruean Thai (เรือนไทย) 181/20 Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Thanee Tel: 0 5561 2444, 0 5561 2456, Fax: 0 5561 2444, www.rueanthaihotel.com 32 rooms: 400 – 3,200 Baht.
 * Sawatdiphong (สวัสดิพงษ์) 56/2 - 5 Singhawat Road, Tambon Mueang KaoTel: 0 5561 1567, 0 5562 2113, Fax: 0 5561 2268, 50 rooms: 200 - 800 Baht.
 * Sky House (สกาย เฮาส์) 58/1 - 7 By Pass Road, Tambon Ban Kluai, Tel 0 5561 2237 – 8, 35 rooms: 100 - 400 Baht.
 * Sukhothai (สุโขทัย) 15/5 Singhawat Road, Tambon Thanee Tel: 0 5561 1133, 0 5561 1540, 42 rooms: 150 - 480 Baht.
 * Thai Guesthouse (ไทย เกสต์เฮาส์) 25/4 Rat Uthit Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5561 2853, 089-2627251, 4 rooms: 100 Baht.
 * Thai Village Hotel (หมู่บ้านไทย) 214 Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Mueang Kao, Tel: 0 5569 7249, 0 5569 7275, 0 5569 7022, Fax: 0 5569 7583, www.thaivillagehotel.com, 80 rooms: 600 - 800 Baht.
 * Tharaburi Resort (ธาราบุรี รีสอร์ท) 321/3 Mu 3, Tambon Mueang Kao, Tel: 0 5569 7132, Fax: 0 5569 7131, email: reservation@tharaburiresort.com, www.tharaburiresort.com, 15 rooms: 1,500 - 15,000 Baht.
 * Thong Hotel (ทอง โฮเต็ล) 327/15, Mu 4, Tambon Pak Khwae, Tel: 0 5561 1628, 20 rooms: 250 - 500 Baht.
 * TR Guesthouse, www.SukhothaiBudgetGuesthouse.com fan room with hot shower 250 Baht, air condition room 400 Baht and fan bungalow  400 Baht Free internet and wireless Motorbike for rent, Tel 055-611-663 or 084-049-9445

Amphoe Sawankhalok

 * Mueang Inn (เมืองอินน์) 21 Kasem Rat Road, Tambon Mueang Sawankhalok, Tel: 0 5564 1722, 0 5564 1753, Fax: 0 5564 1662, 36 rooms: 230 - 400 Baht.
 * Yommana Resort (ยมนา รีสอร์ท หรือ ไร่อิ่มเอม) 17/1 Mu 2, Tambon Khlong Krachong (En Route to Sukhothai Airport, Tel: 0 5564 7484 - 5, 17 rooms: 800 Baht.
 * Saengsin Hotel (แส��สินธ์ โฮเต็ล) 2 Thetsaban Damri 2 Road, Tel: 0 5564 1259, 0 5564 1424, 0 5564 1818, Fax: 0 5564 1828, 34 rooms: 220 - 360 Baht.

Amphoe Si Samrong

 * Sukhothai Resort (สุโขทัย รีสอร์ท) 99 Mu 7, Tambon Sam Ruean, Amphoe Si Samrong, Tel: 0 5568 1696, 0 5568 1697 – 8, Fax: 0 5568 1697, 80 rooms: 1,000 – 5,000 Baht.

Amphoe Mueang Sukhothai

 * Dream Café (ดรีมคาเฟ่) 86/1 Singhawat Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5562 2157, 0 5561 2081 (Thai, Chinese and European cuisine), service hours: 10.00 a.m. – 11.00 p.m.
 * Kuaitiao Sukhothai (Mai Klang Krung) (ก๋วยเตี๋ยวสุโขทัย ไม้กลางกรุง) 139 Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5562 1882 (Pad Thai, authentic Sukhothai noodles, and Tom Yam), service hours: 9.00 a.m. – 3.30 p.m.
 * Nam Khang (สวนอาหารน้ำค้าง) Sukhothai Cultural Centre, 214 Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Mueang Kao, Tel: 0 5569 7275, 0 5569 7249, Fax: 0 5569 7583 (Thai and local cuisine), service hours : 6.00 a.m. – 9.00 p.m.
 * Ratchathani Café (ราชธานี คาเฟ่) Ratchathani Hotel, 229 Charotwithithong Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5561 1031, 0 5561 2877 (a la carte)
 * Sinwana (สินวนา) 321/2 Na Pho Road, Tambon Mueang Kao, Tel 0 5569 7521 - 2 Fax: 0 5569 7503 (authentic local cuisine), service hours: 10.00 a.m. – 10.00 p.m.
 * Somphon Photchana (สมพลโภชนา) 16 Praphonphan Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5561 1461 (chicken rice and a la carte), service hours: 6.00 a.m. – 2.30 p.m.
 * Sukhothai Suki Coca (สุโขทัย สุกี้ โคคา) Sawatdiphong Hotel, 56/2 - 5 Singhawat Road, Tel: 0 5561 1567, 055- 622113 ext. 417, 08 3872 0116 (Thai-style suki and a la carte), service hours: 10.00 a.m. – 10.00 p.m.

Amphoe Sawankhalok
(Thai, Chinese, and European cuisine), service hours: 8.00 a.m. – 12.00 p.m.
 * Ko Heng (โกเฮง) 144/1 Na Mueang Road (on the bank of the Yom River), Tambon Nai Mueang, Amphoe Sawankhalok, Tel: 0 5564 1616 (Thai, Chinese, and a la carte), service hours: 10.00 a.m. – 9.00 p.m.
 * Massey Coffee Shop (แมสสีย์ คอฟฟี่ ช๊อพ) Saengsin Hotel, 2 Thetsaban Damri 3 Road, Tel: 0 5564 1259 (Thai cuisine and a la carte), service hours: 6.00 a.m. – 12.00 p.m.
 * Viva Café (วีว่าคาเฟ่) Mueang Inn Hotel, 19/1 Kasem Rat Road, Tel: 0 5564 1722

Local Food
Sukhothai has its very own speciality noodle dish called simply Sukhothai Noodles. They area blend of rice noodles (khanom jeen) mixed with crispy pork, garlic, green beans, coriander, chili and peanuts in a broth flavored with dark soy sauce.

Local Product
Khanom Kliao (ขนมเกลียว) Famous snacks of Sukhothai made from wheat flour and egg, seasoned with salt and pepper, and made it into a twist shaped-dough. Fry until crispy and further glacé. It has a sweet taste and is available everywhere. Alternatively, make an order at Khru Aeo shop, Si Inthrathit Road, Tel: 0 5561 2037, or Sukhontha shop, Charotwithithong Road, Tel: 0 5561 2112.

Sangkhalok ceramics (เครื่องสังคโลก) These replicas are as beautiful as the originals.

Thung Luang terra cottas (เครื่องปั้นดินเผา) of Khiri Mat district come in unique patterns. The products include flower pots, vases, basin, water jar, lamps, with perforated decorations of animal fiqures like frogs, bullfrogs, and dogs.

Butter-baked Banana (กล้วยอบเนย) A famous snack of Amphoe Khiri Mat, it resembles another local sweet called Khanom Rang Nok made from sweet potato. This butter-baked banana snack is made from slicing raw banana horizontally, left to dry for half a day, seasoned with salt, deep fried, adding sugar, and giving it a good stir. Sprinkle with sesame seeds and add butter. This product is available everywhere.

Local Snacks: Khanom Phing, Thong Muan, Thong Phap, Thong Tan (ขนมผิง ทองม้วน ทองพับ และทองตัน) Famous crispy snacks of various shapes: square, round tube, and thick roll. They are available at Talat Ban Kong, Amphoe Kong Krailat or at various souvenir shops in Sukhothai.

Fried peanuts (ถั่วทอด) of Si Samrong district, also called “200-year fried peanuts” are a tribute to a technique which has been inherited for many generations. The recipe is a mixture of rice flour, wheat flour, eggs, coconut milk, salt, pepper, chopped wild yam, which are then deep fried. They are available at the Lon Sin shop, Sirisamalang Road, Amphoe Si Samrong, Tel: 0 5568 1443, as well as, other shops in this district.

Ancient gold reproductions (ทองโบราณ) of Si Satchanalai district are entirely hand-made by skilled workers. These replicas of the Sukhothai style products include necklaces, wristlets, bangles, earrings, rings, etc. They are available at all gold shops in Amphoe Si Satchanalai.

Ancient silver reproductions (เงินโบราณ) These replicas are entirely hand-made with distinctive skill. They are available at all silver shops in Amphoe Si Satchanalai.

Hat Siao fabric (ผ้าหาดเสี้ยว) comes with 9 beautiful patterns woven with the use of a supplementary weft technique, done by the descendants of Thai Phuan, who migrated from the north of Vientiane, Lao P.D.R.

Marble Products (ผลิตภัณฑ์หินอ่อน) The marble products from Amphoe Thung Saliam - Thoen include tables, chairs, flower pots, and alarm clocks.

Fighting cocks (ไก่ชน) This is located at the Chai Phichit cock-fighting ring, 99 Mu. 7, Tambon Mueang Kao, Amphoe Mueang. Enjoy the cock-fighting demonstration and learn about the animal’s lifestyle, Tel: 0 5563 3344, 08 6539 1875, 08 9204 1264.

Souvenir Shops
Amphoe Mueang

0 5561 0188, 08 1604 4749 (made to order wooden furniture such as antique cupboards, beds, tables, and chairs).
 * Lung Faeng Pottery Shop (เครื่องปั้นดินเผาลุงแฟง) 311 Mu 3, Tambon Mueang Kao.
 * Khru Aeo (��รูแอ๊ว) 29/8 Si Inthrathit Road, Tambon Thani, Tel: 0 5561 2037 (Khanom Kliao)
 * Ban Lung Faeng Phromphet (บ้านลุงแฟง พรมเพชร์) 311 Mu 3, Tambon Mueang Kao. This family-run business selling hand-made pottery is located near Sukhothai Historical Park.
 * Ban Khwang Wooden Handicraft Products Group (สหกรณ์บริการ หัตถกรรมผลิตภัณฑ์ไม้บ้านขวาง จำกัด) 149 Mu 3, Tambon Ban Kluai, Tel:
 * Anachak Pho Ku Ceramics (อาณาจักรพ่อกู สังคโลก) 1/29 Mu 3, Tambon Mueang Kao. Located 2 kilometres before the Sukhothai Historical Park, it offers uniquely designed ceramics with state-of-the-art technology, Tel: 0 5569 7380, 0 5569 7050.

Amphoe Khiri Mat

 * Ban Thung Luang (บ้านทุ่งหลวง) It is located 15 kilometres along the Sukhothai - Kamphaeng Phet route. Take a left turn to this delicately ancient pottery of Ban Thung Luang. Some of the products include animal figurines, flower pots, vases, basins, water jars, lamps, etc.
 * Aeo Supermarket (แอ๋วซูเปอร์มาร์เก็ต) 18 Mu 6, Sukhothai - Kamphaeng Phet Road, Tambon Tanot, Tel: 0 5569 3504. Specialties: local sweets like snacks and butter-baked banana.

Amphoe Sawankhalok

 * Pansip Mae Somboon (ปั้นสิบ แม่สมบูรณ์) 65 Si Satchanalai Road (opposite Lim Mak Kee shop), Tel: 0 5564 4010.

Ancient Gold & Silver Shops
 * Lamtat Ngoen Boran (ลำตัดเงินโบราณ) Products: Sukhothai-style silver and accessories, 13 Mu 3, Tambon Tha Chai, Tel: 0 5567 9068, 0 5563 1589.
 * Somsak Wongyai (สมศักดิ์ วงศ์ใหญ่) Products: gold, silver, and accessories, 4 Mu 3, Tambon Si Satchanalai, Tel: 0 5567 9186-7, 0 5563 1362.
 * Ban Thong Som Samai (บ้านทองสมสมัย) Products: offers a designing service, as well as, sells gold jewellery, 343/1 Mu 5, Tambon Tha Chai, Tel: 0 5567 9095, 0 5567 9055, 0 5567 9097, 0 5563 1603 Fax: 0 5563 1604.
 * Suphaphon (สุภาพร) Products: Sukhothai-style, as well as, ancient gold, 307 Mu 10, Tambon Tha Chai, Tel: 0 5567 9122, Fax: 0 5567 9123.

Amphoe Si Samrong

 * Thua Thot Lon Sin (ถั่วทอดลอนศิลป์) (fried peanuts) 41/2 Mu 7, Sirisamalang Road, Tel: 0 5568 1443.
 * Thua Thot Lon Sin 2 (ถั่วทอดลอนศิลป์ สาขา 2) 1/7 Mu. 5, Tambon Wang Luek, Tel: 0 5568 1625.

Amphoe Thung Saliam

 * Marble Factory (โรงงานหินอ่อน) Marble products: tables, chairs, and vases. Tourists can buy these products along the Thung Saliam - Thoen route or at marble shops in Sukhothai, address: 201/1 Mu 2, Tambon Thung Saliam, Tel: 0 5565 9060, 0 5565 9213, 08 9703 5357, 08 1280 1050.

Amphoe Kong Krailat

 * Processed Dried Banana (กล้วยปาปริก้า) An OTOP product of the women’s group from Ban Nong Tum, Amphoe Kong Krailat, Tel: 0 5565 5212, 08 9567 9093.

Nightlife
Sukhothai doesn’t really have much of a name for nightlife. Probably the best place to go in the new town is the Chopper bar which has decent rooftop restaurant, live folk music and a Thai and Western menu. Around town, there are a few Thai-style karaoke with pretty hostesses.

Health and Medical Centers
Medical Facilities

Major hospitals in Sukhothai are: 2/1 Bankluay Muang Sukhothai 64000 Tel: (055) 611701,611702,611782,610903 Klongtan, Srisamrong Sukhothai 64120 Tel: 055-682030-43
 * Sukhothai Hospital
 * Srisangworn Sukhothai Hospital

Media/Contact
Local television, satellite TV channels are available. English language newspapers and magazines are available in some bookstores.

Landline telephone, satellite phone and all mobile phone systems are available at Sukhothai downtown and village areas. Internet can be had in hotels, resorts and internet cafés. There are Post Offices in every district.

Suggested Itinerary
Examples of Tour Programmes

Day 1

 * 6.00 a.m.Depart Bangkok via Phitsanulok. Have lunch in the province of Kamphaeng Phet and visit Kamphaeng Phet Historical Park.
 * 12.00 p.m Leave for Sukhothai.
 * 2.00 p.m. Arrive at Ban Hat Siao, Amphoe Si Satchanalai. Visit Ban Hat Siao fabric museum and souvenir shops.
 * 3.00 p.m. Visit Si Satchanalai Historical Park, and enjoy the architectural beauty of Wat Chang Lom, Wat Chedi Chet Thaeo, as well as, the delicate stucco relief of Wat Nang Phaya. Visit the excavation remains from the Dvaravati period in Wat Chom Chuen, as well as, see Thuriang Kilns, and the oldest Sangkhalok ceramics in Thailand.
 * 4.00 p.m. Depart for an ancient gold demonstration in Tambon Tha Chai and Tambon Si Satchanalai. Enjoy the renowned handicraft products.
 * 5.00 p.m. Depart for Amphoe Mueang, Sukhothai.
 * 6.00 p.m. Dinner and at leisure.

Day 2

 * 6.00 a.m. Breakfast.
 * 7.00 a.m. Depart for Sukhothai Historical Park. Witness the sunrise at Wat Mahathat and pay homage to the King Ramkhamhaeng the Great Monument.
 * 9.00 a.m. Arrive at Amphoe Ban Tak of Tak province. Visit the renowned pagoda constructed in the Sukhothai era to mark King Ramkhamhaeng the Great’s victory in the single-hand combat on elephant back against Khun Sam Chon, the ruler of Muang Chot. Pay homage to the Lord Buddha’s relics at Wat Phra Borammathat situated  near the afore-mentioned pagoda.
 * 10.00 a.m. Depart for Bhumibol Dam.
 * 11.00 a.m. Lunch while cruising along the lake above the Bhumibol Dam.
 * 1.00 p.m. Departure.
 * 2.30 p.m. Pay homage to the shrine of King Taksin the Great.
 * 3.00 p.m. Departure.
 * 8.00 p.m. Arrive in Bangkok.

Car Rental

 * Sukhothai Travel Service Co., Ltd. (บริษัท สุโขทัยทราเวิลเซอร์วิส จำกัด) 10 – 12, Singhawat Road, Amphoe Mueang, Tel: 0 5561 3075 – 6, Fax: 0 5561 1505, offers rental vans and coaches.

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 13:43, 5 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Sukhumvit

Necessary?
Might I suggest a routebox be made for this instead of a disambiguation? We don't normally have route articles unless they are a fleshed-out itinerary... (WT-en) Texugo 11:57, 30 August 2010 (EDT)

 * Hm, well. A routebox you're right is a good idea. But for me, "Sukhumvit" mostly refers to the Sukhumvit district in Bangkok. But I realized making a redirect to Bangkok/Sukhumvit would be wrong as the road is longer than Bangkok alone. That's why I did it this way. I never intended this as being a route article, just as a disamb of a neighborhood, similar to Rattanakosin. But removing the disamb is fine by me. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 15:10, 30 August 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Sulawesi

Regions
Sulawesi is administratively divided into 6 provinces:
 * Central Sulawesi (Sulawesi Tengah)
 * Gorontalo
 * North Sulawesi (Sulawesi Utara)
 * South Sulawesi (Sulawesi Selatan)
 * South East Sulawesi (Sulawesi Tenggara)
 * West Sulawesi (Sulawesi Barat)

The provincial boundaries are shown

For travel purposes, I think six is too many, and that we should:
 * Combine North Sulawesi and Gorontalo into one new region called Northern Sulawesi
 * Leave Central Sulawesi as is.
 * Combine South Sulawesi and West Sulawesi into one new region called Southern Sulawesi.
 * Leave Southeast Sulawesi as is.

That would be four travel regions. I am slightly surprised there is not more content for this rather popular island, and would hope that some organisational work will help encourage more, as has happened spectacularly in other parts of Indonesia.

Any comments on that region plan please?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:33, 5 August 2011 (EDT)

 * Note: I am leaving the name of South East Sulawesi as is, despite Southeast being the preferred WT nomenclature. The province is officially South East Sulawesi.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 00:37, 25 August 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Sumatra

Drink
ok i dont get it, it says dont drink the water??? applying to what water? ocean, river, bottled water idk? --(WT-en) CoonCat89 14:55, 19 May 2009 (EDT)
 * Remark removed from Drink section, new remark in Stay Save. --(WT-en) Rein N. 16:19, 19 May 2009 (EDT)

Regions
I have been avoiding this one as I knew it would not be straightforward. Certainly, the 10 current travel regions to correspond with the provinces is too many. The clearest provincial map of Sumatra I have found is here.

I propose a division of this vast island as follows (north to south):

 * Aceh - leave as is. Although the chances of it ever being a separate nation are greatly diminished these days, this is a special adminstrative territory which very much stands alone as far as the traveler is concerned. Has a quite a lot of good content.

 * North Sumatra - leave as is. Lots of back-packer driven content and many of Sumatra's leading draws.

 * Riau and West Sumatra combined to form a new division called either Central Sumatra or, better I think, West Sumatra and Riau. Riau can't really stand alone and it has to go somewhere. West Sumatra has a lot of good content.

 * Riau Islands stays as is. This is a very different region to any of the others. The highly developed Bintan is basically an extremely naff playground for Singaporeans, while many of the others are so off-the-beaten-path as to get almost no visitors.

 * Jambi, Bengkulu, South Sumatra and Lampung combined to form one new region called Southern Sumatra. It makes geographical sense and the four existing 'regions' contain only 6 articles between them.

 * Bangka-Belitung stays as is. These lovely OtBP islands are likely to grow in popularity, and in any case, would be hard to incorporate into Southern Sumatra.

So that's 6 divisions (4 mainland and 2 sets of islands) rather than the unwieldy 10 we have at the moment. Any comments very gratefully received.

Map is not finished yet (no roads and rivers) but it shows the proposed region breakdown.

--(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:53, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

 * Is there a reason why we shouldn't go ahead and implement this? Texugo (talk) 14:49, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
 * For the regions which lack content and were proposed to be merged, Riau has 5 articles under it, West Sumatra 10, which means the potential West Sumatra and Riau contains 15 articles. Jambi (province) has 4, Bengkulu (province) 1, South Sumatra 3, and Lampung 3, which means the potential Southern Sumatra contains 11 articles. The content is likely to grow and having more regions than needed is easier than having to divide them later. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 05:01, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

 * I agree with Hanif Al Husaini. There are a few park articles that Hanif hasn't counted. Counting park articles, Jambi has 5 articles and Lampung has 4, bringing the total for Southern Sumatra to 13. Bengkulu (province) remains the "problem child" here with only 1 article, but I don't think merging it makes sense. Ground Zero (talk) 11:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, the Java article only splits into three regions despite having eight provinces (including Madura island and Kepulauan Seribu archipelago). We should "grow" the lower region (regencies/kabupaten) instead of over-dividing the island-level region, because apparently the Indonesian government loves to create more provinces. Veracious (talk) 12:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

All right, since there's no comment, i will propose a new, simplified version based on the Java's static map referring to Sumatra's old map: Veracious (talk) 09:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Northern Sumatra will cover Aceh and North Sumatra peovinces, and also Nias Island. Aceh is not a special adminstrative territory, even Yogyakarta Special Region (yes, a special ones) is even being part of Central Java.
 * Central Sumatra will cover Jambi, Riau and West Sumatra province and also Mentawai and Riau islands. Yes, it is a real thing.
 * Southern Sumatra will cover Bengkulu, South Sumatra and Lampung provinces and also Bangka-Belitung islands.

 * I don't know much about Sumatra, but I think Aceh is culturally distinctive enough (in addition to the implementation of Sharia Law) to warrant a separate article. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 09:47, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I was going to say the same but SHB beat me to it. Vidimian (talk) 15:00, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Northern Sumatra merger
Wv:regions provides this advice on how to decide where to define regions:
 * "The 7 ± 2 rule. Our hierarchies work best with a moderate number of items at each level; a good target is around seven items, plus or minus two. With fewer than five items, the subdivision starts to appear inefficient and excessive; with more than nine, it becomes difficult for the reader to distinguish the individual items....
 * "Political or legal definitions. Some countries are divided into states, provinces, counties, cantons or what have you by their governments. It sometimes makes sense to use these if they're the best way to break up a region....
 * "Language or cultural definitions. Some countries have clean divisions between language or ethnic lines...."

Aceh has 11 articles linked, and North Sumatra also has 11 articles linked. If they were merged, the advice provided by wv:regions would be a good argument for them being split up again.

Why do you want to merge them? Ground Zero (talk) 11:14, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Central Sumatra merger
Jambi is the only region that violates the 7 ± 2 rule. I don't see the need for a merger here. The resulting 29-article region would be difficult to navigate. Ground Zero (talk) 11:22, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Jambi — 4 articles
 * Riau — 6 articles
 * West Sumatra province and Mentawi Islands — 12 articles
 * Riau islands — 7 articles
 * Likewise, aren't the Riau Islands popular weekend destinations from Singapore (to warrant a separate region article)? I think letting the region articles grow would best work in this situation. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 11:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Proposed Southern Sumatra merger
This merger makes sense on the basis of number of articles, but it is also worth noting that the existing state articles have a lot of content in Understand, Get in, See, Do, Eat. Is there overlap? Or would the merged article be difficult to navigate because it is combining information for several states? Ground Zero (talk) 11:31, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Bengkulu — 1 article
 * South Sumatra — 3 articles
 * Lampung provinces — 3 articles
 * Bangka-Belitung islands — 2 articles

 * @Ground Zero @SHB2000 Sorry, I think there's a minsunderstanding of my proposal.
 * I want to make/create a "top" region rather than merging already existing articles. Here's the comparison with Java island, their "top" region are Western Java, Central Java, and East Java.

Veracious (talk) 03:31, 15 August 2023 (UTC) I think I understand now. But there are only 10 region article under the Sumatra region article. Is an intermediate level needed? Wouldn't it be better to spend time expanding the current articles, and creating new Destination articles instead of creating another layer? Ground Zero (talk) 03:41, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 * @Ground Zero Well, Sulawesi island also had 10 region article under it and has an intermediate level. It's actually a part of preparation for expanding current articles. Veracious (talk) 05:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

 * How is it part of that preparation? What would you want to put in the super-region articles? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ikan Kekek The same thing comes to my mind when splitting both Central Java and East Java super-regions into smaller ones... what stuff to fill in there. Turns out there are another Wikivoyager that helped me, so i think content-filling is doable. Veracious (talk) 07:47, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * On the face of it, it's reasonable to divide Sumatra this way, so I'd be happy to see what you come up with, but does Ground Zero have a point about it maybe being more useful to work on existing articles? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see – in that case, I still think there is a massive cultural difference in Aceh to warrant being directly categorised beneath Sumatra. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 09:41, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @SHB2000 Well, for example, Northern Sulawesi page is explaining about North Sulawesi and Gorontalo provinces, both are culturally different. Majority of North Sulawesi province people is Christian, therefore, their local food (containing pork) and alcohol drink are basically haram for those in Gorontalo province that is dominated by Muslim. Veracious (talk) 10:59, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * It's actually a part of preparation for expanding current articles.
 * Wv:regions advises "Importantly, we only add a level of regions when there is too much content in the existing breakdown."
 * The current articles should be expanded and destination articles created first. After that, there will be no argument about whether an intermediate level is needed.
 * We have far too much over-regionalization of countries, where enthusiastic editors have created detailed but unnecessary regional breakdowns, and then left the project or moved on to other things. I've been working to clean up Brazilian state articles that were split up into regions that weren't needed in 2013 by an editor who is no longer around. Other editors did not come along later to create the destination articles that editor imagined would be created following the regionalization. Ground Zero (talk) 12:17, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ground Zero Hmm, that's concerning. Is there no wiki-workshop/wiki-training for Wikivoyage? Veracious (talk) 06:09, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately not :-(. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 07:58, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * We do have lots of resources available for learning about editing in Wikivoyage. Tips for new contributors and Help are the best starting points, but there are really too many policies to explain in a 10-minute video. Generally, new Wikivoyers learn by doing, and by having other editors explain things to them. Ground Zero (talk) 12:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ground Zero Hmm, what i mean is actually introducing Wikivoyage to the community and teach them directly, so we don't have to "pray" someone will come here through Wikipedia or Google. But i do get that most active people in here are scattered across the globe so it's difficult to held a workshop/training event by yourself. Ok,ok, i will try expanding the lower article first, but it will be pretty slow since i also "carrying" Indonesian Wikivoyage. Veracious (talk) 05:50, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Summerland

I changed this to useable. Is it? (WT-en) bulliver 02:18, 25 February 2006 (EST)
 * I'd say it looks like it... (WT-en) Majnoona 11:38, 25 February 2006 (EST)

 * Yup. Check out Project:Article status for the criteria for each level. -- (WT-en) Colin 12:17, 25 February 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Summerside

Cows Frozen Ice Cream and Fishermen's Warf are the greatest restaurants in PEI

title: Talk:Summerside