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User talk:EvanProdromou/Aug 2004

Caps In Titles
Evan: I guess you are referring to my change of 'Caribbean islands' to 'Caribbean Islands'; I cannot bring to mind any other capitalization changes I've made recently.

I saw 'Caribbean Islands' as a placename in its own right; not like the example 'New York restaurants' in the mos where 'New York' is the placename and 'restaurants' a topic qualifier. Certainly the article was already written with that sense, and internally capitalized.

But I do see that you could also argue that 'Caribbean' is the placename, and the article is about islands that happen to be in the Caribbean, in which case the 'New York restaurants' precedent certainly holds.

Umm. No sure any more. -- (WT-en) Chris j wood 10:33, 6 Aug 2004 (EDT)

 * Yeah. I'm having a hard time coming up with "Caribbean Islands" as a proper name in dictionaries or the Getty Thesaurus of Geographic Names. I think it's more like "Islands of the Caribbean Sea", which the existing Caribbean islands was more like.

 * If you're bent on having a proper name, maybe West Indies would be the right name? --(WT-en) Evan 10:48, 6 Aug 2004 (EDT)

Thanks for your welcome-message and the tips. (WT-en) Niemand 16:03, 11 Aug 2004 (EDT)

Image privacy rights
See Project:Privacy rights. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:34, 14 Aug 2004 (EDT)

Casino spammer
The spammer has been attacking Henna for Hair as well as Wikivoyage. How can we get him shut down? -(WT-en) phma 19:03, 17 Aug 2004 (EDT)

Project:Swedish Wikivoyage Expedition
I am willing to serve as go-between for the Swedish Expedition. I guess this is the last step before opening up the Swedish version? We'll keep in touch... --(WT-en) Alers 06:46, 22 Aug 2004 (EDT)
 * I have read the required pages about policies and the like. I also understand that as a go-between I have to report to the WikiTravel log about how the Swedish version is progressing, about once a month. The Swedish language file is also ready to go. --(WT-en) Alers 04:43, 29 Aug 2004 (EDT)

 * Is something still missing? I haven't heard from you in a while. --(WT-en) Alers 04:20, 10 Sep 2004 (EDT)

 * Thank you for setting up the Swedish version! I'll get right to it1 :) --(WT-en) Alers 08:15, 7 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Maine
Evan, I work on Maine and will try to add some content to wiki's Maine pages. On WikiTravel, just added all Maine towns and cities (from Maine.Gov compilation) and a reference to Maine Information (another free resource) which compiles chamber of commerce area descriptions, travel brochures, etc.User:(WT-en) Gckorn

Traveling 8/28 - 9/6
(WT-en) Maj and I will be in Black Rock City for 10 days at the end of August. We'll have very limited connectivity.

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User talk:EvanProdromou/Aug-Sep 2006

See also User talk:(WT-en) Evan/Archives

Please direct the following questions to the right spots:

 * Technical requests like feature requests or bug reports should be posted using the tool at wts:Project:Technical requests.

Hi from Alain Désilets, whom you met at WikiSym 06
Hi Evan,

Well, I finally managed to read through 4 weeks email backlog, and have time to follow up on some conversation I started at WikiSym 06.

I would like to continue our discussion of multilingual support for WikiTravel. Maybe I could come to Montreal some time soon to visit? I am thinking of attending one of Sébastien Paquet's Wiki Wednesdays, to meet the Montreal wiki community. Maybe I could combine that with a WikiTravel visit?

Best regards,

BTW: I sent an email to Michele with the same content. I couldn't cc you cause I don't have your email address.

Alain Désilets, MASc Agent de recherches/Research Officer Institut de technologie de l'information du CNRC / NRC Institute for Information Technology

alain.desilets@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca Tél/Tel (613) 990-2813 Facsimile/télécopieur: (613) 952-7151

Conseil national de recherches Canada, M50, 1200 chemin Montréal, Ottawa (Ontario) K1A 0R6 National Research Council Canada, M50, 1200 Montreal Rd., Ottawa, ON K1A 0R6

Gouvernement du Canada | Government of Canada

Arriving in Los Angeles
To first order, the NM-LA via I-40 route follows exactly along the Route 66 itinerary, which has been developed beautifully by User:(WT-en) Rt66lt and collaborators (of whom, I modestly assert, I am one). Suggest you take a peek at that itinerary and see if it's something to add stuff in, or also, to alert your correspondent to. The info flow doesn't need to be one-way... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 12:36, 6 August 2006 (EDT)

Maps
What was the url for the in browser map editing program the Polish guy spoke about on Sunday? -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 23:16, 7 August 2006 (EDT)

Special pages in the French Wikivoyage
Hi Evan, it seems we have a problem on French Wikivoyage: a wikivoyager using Internet Explorer reported me that the page Pages Spéciales was blank when seen with that browser... So I did test it and the page is actually blank with IE, but everything is OK with Firefox or Opera. It seems that this page is the only one to face that king of trouble. Could you please help me to solve the problem? Thanks a lot. Regards, (WT-en) Julien 09:01, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

 * Yes, it's listed on Project:Bug reports. I've got no idea why it's happening, but I'll see what I can do to fix it. --(WT-en) Evan 18:14, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

 * The problem is now fixed. Thanks Evan. (WT-en) Julien 12:35, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

New candidate of ja: administrator
Hi Evan, this is (WT-ja) Shoestring from ja: edition. We would like to inform you that we recommended (WT-ja) Episteme as a new candidate of ja: administrator as follows.--(WT-en) Shoestring 02:39, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

CandleWithHare's Shared password
User:(WT-en) CandleWithHare can't use Shared, because he's forgotten his password on Shared. Unfortunately, he can't have his password sent to him, because of some error. I tried to have my password sent to me too, but I got the same error. Anyway, you could recover his password and tell him what it is? -- (WT-en) Sapphire 14:38, 15 August 2006 (EDT)

Stats
Evan, I want to make a pitch to the Greater Cincinnati Convention and Visitors Bureau and a few state organizations to work with Wikivoyage by relicensing images, maps, and texts. I'll need a few things from you before I can take my pitch on the road. Can I have the monthly hit stats for Santa Fe in July, Budapest in August, and Cincinnati in September? I'd also appreciate access to the stats for Isle Royale from Mid-June to Mid-July, and Denali National Park from Mid-July to mid-August. If the stats for Previously of the Beaten Path are impossible then I'd be very appreciative for the stats for the past Destinations of the Month. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 00:38, 16 August 2006 (EDT)

A few edits
I made a few edits to your Alexandria proposal for the site of the 2007 Wikimania. Also, I don't know if any of the info I provided on the talk page could be of any use, but you may want to check that out. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 20:55, 16 August 2006 (EDT)

Bot for link unpacking?
I was unpacking links on St. Louis today. I think a lot of the early articles may have been written by WikiPedia folks who were used to doing it that way, or maybe the MoS just changed, or some folks just like the look.. whatever. It's tough work because of all the precise cutting and pasting. It occured to me that bots don't suffer from that same overmousing pain below the shoulderblade. Maybe one could be designed to scout the see, do, sleep sections and automagically unpack links?? Most times the link would be in the wrong sport in a listing (before the address IF GIVEN (sorry)), but it would be an improvement over the front-end link and also easier for a human editor to move. (WT-en) OldPine 09:36, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

 * I might misunderstand the idea of "unpacking links". In my mind, it means that if a listing just has an external link, you go find the actual data at that link -- hours of operation, address, price range, etc. I think what you're talking about is taking front-linked listing and making them into the auto-numbered listing we all know and love. Is that about right? --(WT-en) Evan 09:41, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

 * Yes, I'm talking bout the latter. Ah.. I see we call them front-linked. Gosh, if you've got the former you don't need me :) Sorry if I used the wrong terminology. (WT-en) OldPine 09:59, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

Administrator Wikivoyage
Hello Evan, I'm Nanow_Jesús_Madrid from Wikivoyage(es). I've just read your proposal and I feel very proud of that. If you nomine me for administrator I'll accept it. Thank you very much for your confidence in me. (WT-en) Nanow jesús madrid 09:53, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

Administrator Wikivoyage/de
Hi Evan,

did you read de:Project:Nominierungen zum Administrator? I've nominated Sapphire two weeks ago. It would be great if you agree. -- (WT-en) Steffen M. 05:53, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

 * Yes, I saw it. As far as I can tell his candidacy succeeded without me. I have to admit that I thought the de: nomination period was the same as on en:, but it looks like it's 7 days, not 14. So, I'll switch his sysop flag on. --(WT-en) Evan 10:36, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

Listing tags
It seems that the listing-foo-attr variables do not work unless they are in English, however the listing-foo-tag variable works in either German or English is there a work around for that? You can see de:Benutzer:(WT-de) Sapphire/Sandbox to see what I'm talking about. I've restore listing-address-attr to its original form, however, if you look at directions or "richtungen" it falls apart. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 12:06, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

 * I'll take a look. In the meantime, could you report this as a bug on shared:? --(WT-en) Evan 15:59, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

Thanks ..
.. for your endorsement, and especially for the kind words! I really appreciate it. I don't think I stand much of a chance, but I'll be damned if I don't try. ;-) --(WT-en) Eloquence 22:53, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

LanguageFi.php
Could you upload the latest Project:LanguageFi.php from the current Mediawiki install? (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:32, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

 * It's not working very well. I'll try and massage it a little more. The other option is just to edit the MediaWiki: interface with a launched wiki. --(WT-en) Evan 22:32, 21 August 2006 (EDT)

Episteme
Hi Evan, This is Shoestring from ja:. It has past two weeks since we recommended Episteme as the candidate of the Administrator, and so far there’s no objection about his inauguration.-(WT-en) Shoestring 10:49, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

Southeast asia
So where have you been in Southeast Asia. Im gunna be in Thailand and VIetnam for 5-6 weeks in dec-Jan. JUst wondering where you went in the Southeast. (WT-en) Hothgond 13:23, 29 August 2006 (EDT)

Reminder
Hi Evan - I'm heading out of town for a couple of days, but just wanted to leave a reminder that tomorrow it will have been two weeks since Tsandell was nominated for admin, and there have been no objections, so whatever magic voodoo it is you do to make buttons appear will need to be done. -- (WT-en) Ryan 08:57, 30 August 2006 (EDT)

Damn apostrophe
Noticed that you think an apostrophe is causing some problems on the main page. On DE we've been having problems submitting text because the apostrophe is an illegal character according to the spam filter. If you would have a look at this wts:WtTech:DE doesn't allow me to submit text after your battle with the main page is over I'd appreciate it. -- User:(WT-en) Sapphire

 * No, it wasn't the apostrophe; it was the unclosed "small" tag. I'll take a look at your error, but I think it's a problem with the spam filter's output, not that it's trying to filter the apostrophe char. --(WT-en) Evan 16:15, 2 September 2006 (EDT)

Wikivoyage/es
Hello Evan, I don't want to disturb you but I think we need a new administrator in Wikivoyage/es. I would like to be an administrator but although I know hot to create a page like Project:Administrator nominations in spanish, I don't know how or who have to provide the tools of an administrator. Please contact wih me in my spanish user page. Thank a lot. (WT-en) Nanow jesús madrid 07:38, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

Email password not working
Hi Mr. Bad (if that is your real name). I just created an account as User:(WT-en) Mike Dillon and promptly lost my randomly created password in a fiery browser crash. When I tried to email myself a password, I got an error message. I'm only contacting you because I don't know what the equivalent of "Village Pump (technical)" is for WikiTravel and I remember you from the Crackmonkey list back in the day. Thanks in advance! 66.159.240.178 18:43, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

 * False alarm. I received the password reminder messages, despite the scary error message. The error message seems to have been related to logging and didn't affect the actual sending of the reminder. (WT-en) Mike Dillon 19:28, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

Admin nomination
Hi there. I wanted to let you know that I nominated myself for admin status on the Portuguese site. The other admin there, RMX, has given his support, but I think he is currently the only admin, so that whole two admin rule, you know? There may not be anyone else to give support, as he and I are on there 100 times more than anyone else... Also, I don't know if it is allowed to be admin in more than one version, but I'd really like to be an admin on the Spanish version as well- most of my work has been between the Spanish and Portuguese versions, and I've done almost as much of the regional organization of the Spanish site as I have on the Portuguese one, plus translated many templates including the quickbox and all the current city/region templates. I've inserted scores of IsIn tags and I've been doing a lot of revision work to make the city/region templates standardized across all pages. Please let me know what you think. (WT-en) Texugo 21:41, 4 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I gave you my support. I think it makes sense to be admin on more than one language version -- I actually think it's a great way to integrate the cultures of the different wikis. Let's let NJM's nomination pass on es:, then I'll nominate you there, too. --(WT-en) Evan 03:18, 5 September 2006 (EDT)
 * Great! Thanks a lot! (WT-en) Texugo 03:25, 5 September 2006 (EDT)

SVG
What do you think about add to Wikivoyage SVG files? Because in commons is a lot of this (flags, maps...). In commons system mediawiki scaling and change this files to PNG. (WT-en) Adam Dziura 03:51, 5 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I'm not sure what you mean. You can upload SVG and zipped SVG files now. The automatic display of SVG files as PNGs has been turned on and off several times now -- I think the general feeling was that for maps and such the svg-to-png converter did a terrible job converting between formats; worse than none at all. If you think it should be turned on, maybe you could post that on wts:Project:Tech requests? It's pretty easy for me to turn on and off, but it's up to the community to decide. --(WT-en) Evan 09:04, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

Wikivoyage logo
Do you know if the Wikivoyage logo is available in larger format or as vector graphics, suitable for print? And what are the rules for its use? I'm organizing two "mapping weekends" in October for OpenStreetMap and we're also going to take photos for Wikipedia and Wikivoyage. --(WT-en) LA2 13:37, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

 * The logo is available at Image:Treatment.svg. It's available under the Creative Commons by-sa 1.0 license, which means you'll need to note the license and give credit to the creator (User:(WT-en) Mark). --(WT-en) Evan 16:12, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Oooooh.. this OpenStreetMap thing is exciting in view of how many maps we need here. Are we giving this project some publicity elsewhere here at Wikivoyage? (WT-en) OldPine 17:00, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

Single sign on
Would you want me to translate the the instructions of the single sign on for DE? (Apparently, my German is getting better). It might be cool to get that started on DE. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 16:40, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

Meetup
Hey, I'm going to be in Montreal Sep. 15-18. We should get together if you guys are around. --(WT-en) Dawnview 12:41, 7 September 2006 (EDT)

HI!
Hi! I'm new here and I want to be an administrator eventually. So, how do I get started on the fast track to sucess?(WT-en) Jashkion M.P. 16:46, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I have no idea! I made myself an admin when we started the site in an egregious abuse of power (see Project:Administrator nominations/Archives). But that was a one-time thing; I don't know if it will work for you. I guess the best thing you can do to become an admin is do all the non-administrator tasks that need doing. Learn about our goals and non-goals, read our policies and guidelines, and get a feel for the manual of style. Welcome new users, clean up articles, participate in discussions, and make yourself a presence on Special:Recentchanges. Eventually you'll get nominated. --(WT-en) Evan 16:58, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

Thanks! I like this website and I know some people who are vandals who I want to block off. Can you help me there?(WT-en) Jashkion M.P. 17:01, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Oh, that's great. We have a page on how to handle unwanted edits, that might be a good place to start. --(WT-en) Evan 17:04, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

Oh, You see what happened was 4 girls came on here who went to my school and started dissing each other and saying they are the hottest and they are strippers. There page got deleted, but as 68.96.23.7, I requested a block. I want them blocked before they strike again. I don;t wanna here about strippers and erotic costumes. Here were their names: Adi Gill, Taylor Bies, Sydney Goodnight, and Kylie Adolf. Please block them for me!(WT-en) Jashkion M.P. 17:10, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Ohhhh! Well, in that case, you don't have to become an administrator at all! All you have to do is put a nomination on Project:User ban nominations.  --(WT-en) Evan 17:17, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

We got a problem! Adi Gill has come to threaten me! Help Even HELP! Block her off now! She made a death threat to me! (WT-en) Jashkion M.P. 17:22, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Oh my! That's really serious. I don't think blocking users is going to help that one bit! Shouldn't you call a teacher or the police? --(WT-en) Evan 17:33, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

I got it under control don't worry. Just block them,alright! (WT-en) Jashkion M.P. 17:37, 8 September 2006 (EDT)

What needs to be done
Could you look this over and tell me what this guy needs to still do (if anything) to be compliant with the CC-by-SA 1.0 license? Thanks. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:39, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

Welcome to your new administrator.
I'm an administrator on Wikipedia so, How do I make the transition between sites?P.S. check out my'pedia page! (WT-en) Drini 17:11, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

 * We have a page for Wikipedians learning about Wikivoyage; see Project:Welcome, Wikipedians. You may also be interested in our Spanish Wikivoyage version, see Portada.

 * I think the best way to make the transition is to plunge forward and edit some pages. Check out our policies and guidelines, and manual of style to understand how things work around here. --(WT-en) Evan 17:22, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

Do you have a page on Wikipedia? Are you a user? PLease leave me a message on my Wikipedia talk page alright? (WT-en) Drini 17:14, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Yes, yes, and sure, but I prefer to talk about Wikivoyage on Wikivoyage, not on some other site. --(WT-en) Evan 17:22, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

I understand,but still, please leave me a message om my Wikipedia page AND Wikivoyage page to compromise. (WT-en) Drini 17:28, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

For some reason it doesn't show on my Wikipedia page!Please kindly write it again so it'll show! (WT-en) Drini 17:48, 11 September 2006 (EDT)
 * That's an impostor account. See for evidence. I just replied to your comment with my account there. User:(WT-en) Drini is an impersonator of me. (WT-en) Dr-ini 18:40, 11 September 2006 (EDT)
 * I'm also Drini at Spanish Wikipedia, commons wikipedia and meta wikipedia, from where you can read this proving also the account was an impostor (WT-en) Dr-ini 18:41, 11 September 2006 (EDT)
 * Finally, that IP 68.96.23.7 has been identified a zombie or open proxy computer from where the death threats to me have been made. See for more evidence, and by which I suggest to indef block the ip and the username. (WT-en) Dr-ini 18:43, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Sigh. Well, thanks for dropping in. We're not big on blocks and bans here -- never had much of a need. But we'll keep an eye on the IP. --(WT-en) Evan 19:38, 11 September 2006 (EDT)

Cache and Times
Is there a way to clear the cache for multiple country articles? I deleted a whole slew of flags that had been moved to Shared, but most of the articles haven't started displaying the Shared flag. There's simply a link to the Shared flag. See Ukraine for an example.

 * I just cleared the cache. I should probably make a special page to do that, but until then, you can try editing a file in the MediaWiki: namespace. I think the cache is cleared even if there's no change. --(WT-en) Evan 17:35, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

Also, I'm not very hell-bent on spelling out the days of the weeks, however, I am a strong believer in 24 hour format and I think converting to that format should be a route to explore. I originally hated the 24 hour format, but I changed my opinion of the format about two months ago. I'm very tempted to say that it would be worth the hassle. It's not as a daunting task as changing 10,000 articles since many (like Ajax) don't even have times or dates in the article. Also, it took us roughly four months to get rid of the "External Links" section. While I'm sure MoSing time formats will take a little longer than four months. I don't believe converting from AM/PM to 24 hours will distract too much from the and constructively contributing to Wikivoyage, since I think most people will MoS the format as they just happen to notice the difference in formats on an article. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 16:53, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I just want to make sure that people are a) thinking in terms of what's best for the project and for the traveler, not just of their own personal preferences, b) accepting that making MoS changes means changing a lot of articles, and c) not changing itsy-bitsy things on the MoS so often that its value as a reference becomes meaningless. --(WT-en) Evan 17:35, 13 September 2006 (EDT)

CC salon in Montreal, oct. 4th
Hi Evan--Tina and I were wondering if Michele and yourself would be willing to give a short presentation on wikivoyage (5 to 10mn) to start the next CC Salon in Montreal on Wednesday, oct 4th? The event will be held at L'amère à boire at 2049 St. Denis, starting at 6:30. cheers, Sabine

 * Sabine, that sounds superb! We'll definitely be there! --(WT-en) Evan 12:30, 18 September 2006 (EDT)

OpenID DE
So I tinkered with the MediaWiki template and added the OpenID option. I believe my translation is accurate, however, I may have messed up the last word. I think what I have is close if not the cigar. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 13:17, 18 September 2006 (EDT)

Back in a flash
It was good to see you guys this weekend (and that was a damn fine restaurant). Before I come back, you'll have to figure out where the good Dim Sum places are. You know, taking a walk down Mt. Royal was a bad idea, I spent all my money there. :) --(WT-en) Dawnview 01:36, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

 * Haha! Well, it was good to see you -- and I'll figure out some dim sum options for the next time you're in town. --(WT-en) Evan 08:20, 19 September 2006 (EDT)

ES admin
Hi there. Did you still want to nominate me for admin on the Spanish site, or shall I do it myself? You asked me to remind you, so... (WT-en) Texugo 23:53, 20 September 2006 (EDT)
 * Feel like giving me your support there? I'd really appreciate it. (WT-en) Texugo 11:22, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

Review
Would you please revert the switch on Review from EN to Shared. I downloaded the first non-beta version of IE 7 and I want to see what the TOC issues look like in the new IE 7. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 01:57, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

 * OK, sounds good. I'm not going to do it today, but I can do it sometime early next week. --(WT-en) Evan 09:43, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

Recreational reading
Hi Evan, I thought I'd pass on a couple of links to articles we talked about last weekend.

The first is the article on how newspapers think of everything as a 'story', so things get shoe-horned in to that format, including births & deaths, photos of the week etc. The second article is one that suggests a colorizing scheme for trust in wiki edits. I know this isn't really a problem for Wikivoyage, nor am I confident it's a good solution, but it's an interesting read.

--(WT-en) Dawnview 05:43, 24 September 2006 (EDT)

Problems with deleting
Moved to wts:WtTech:Ampersand in page name by (WT-en) Evan

Blinky
Yes on IE, no on Firefox. Lemme investigate further and give you a full report. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 12:07, 28 September 2006 (EDT)

 * OK. Maybe shift+reload the page to make sure that the username.js file is cleared from cache so you get the new version. --(WT-en) Evan 12:58, 28 September 2006 (EDT)
 * Clearing private data fixed the problem. I can see the blinky now. Thanks! — (WT-en) Ravikiran 03:56, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User talk:EvanProdromou/Dec 2003

Evan, is there a way to rename images once they have been uploaded? (WT-en) DD

 * Unfortunately, no. The best you can do is re-upload the images with a different name, and then ask for the older ones to be deleted (Project:votes for deletion). I'd like to get this fixed in the MediaWiki software pronto, btw. --(WT-en) Evan 09:25, 2 Dec 2003 (PST)

Sorry, I didn't notice that Wikivoyage uses a different license from Wikipedia.--(WT-en) Aspire 21:51, 2 Dec 2003 (PST)

Hey, here's my attempt - - at a favicon which hopefully distills the real icon into something that works at 16x16. I figured the planet and the arrow were the most imporant bits, doing anything else made it impossible to squeeze into that tiny image size. -- (WT-en) Mark 10:04, 4 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Nice job! I added it as . Seems to be showing up in Mozilla Firebird. --(WT-en) Evan 11:12, 4 Dec 2003 (PST)

Neither, unless you count being native bilingual and exposed to several other languages in childhood. (I came up with the pronouncement that Spanish is to French as English is to German, based on the words for "is", when I was a child.) But I did try to get into Wycliffe. -(WT-en) phma 18:38, 5 Dec 2003 (PST)

Hi Evan, I see that you have "changed" the North American "destinations" into "countries". The past few days I have been doing just the opposite on some "continent" and "large region" pages. I figured that not every item on those lists were countries (e.g. Greenland in North America). Maybe we could think about a suitable name that covers most possibilities (territories?). (WT-en) DhDh 13:39, 6 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Oh, yeah, I should have started talking about that. So, I think for continents, we should do:

==Sections==

*Section 1 *Section 2

==Countries==

*Country 1 *Country 2

==Other destinations==

*Territory 1 *Territory 2

 * ...etc. I figure the "others" should be written with the country template. --(WT-en) Evan 13:44, 6 Dec 2003 (PST)

Why didn't I think of that? ;-) (WT-en) DhDh 13:53, 6 Dec 2003 (PST)

Oh BTW, could we devise something similar to replace my "cities and towns" sections in Flanders and Western Australia and their regions. We either need something more encompassing than cities, or we should make a distinction somewhere. I've started a stub about the Apo Kayan, and I really can't speak about "cities" there. The most you can say is that there are a few settlements or villages. You can trust me, I have visited the region in 1991 and I'm pretty sure these settlements haven't grown into megalopolises these days... (WT-en) DhDh 14:14, 6 Dec 2003 (PST)

I gotta say
I like this "Post a comment" feature. --(WT-en) Evan 16:16, 11 Dec 2003 (PST)

You wrote me a message on Talk:Greek phrasebook telling me to go to a page that doesn't exist. When will UTF-8 be working? After Romanian? -(WT-en) phma 10:00, 13 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Oof! An unkind cut. Well, we're moving to a new server sometime next week, and I'd like to do the UTF-8 conversion after that. I know, I've been promising a server move for a while, but this time it's for real.

 * Anyways, no, it will be before Romanian. --(WT-en) Evan 10:30, 13 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * There's still no page Project:UTF-8 conversion. Could you write it, please? -(WT-en) phma 20:23, 25 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Works as far as I can tell. Check out my keyboard layouts. -(WT-en) phma 15:04, 26 Dec 2003 (PST)

Hi Evan. As you can see, I'm back (and glad to be :-). It's taken me some time but I have finally written my promised explanation. You'll find it (WT-en) here. Cheers! (WT-en) DhDh 09:37, 19 Dec 2003 (PST)

Romanian Wikivoyage script
Hi Evan - we've finished correcting and proofreading the Romanian localization at LanguageRo.php. Now there's just one more question - below all of the actual translation of every field, there's a section that starts with: );

class Language {

function getDefaultUserOptions { global $wgDefaultUserOptionsEn ; return $wgDefaultUserOptionsEn I have a feeling that this shouldn't be edited - but Danutz, someone else from Romanian Wikivoyage, told me that we should change, for example, 'global $wgDefaultUserOptionsEn' to 'global $wgDefaultUserOptionsRo'. It's probably logical to change these to Ro from En, but should we?

He also told me that, because Romaniann Wikivoyage is Unicode (UTF-8), we should change this class Language section.

Should we change anything in this section. If yes, then what should we change, and if no, then we're ready to go with Romanian Wikivoyage! (WT-en) Ronline 14:41, 25 Dec 2003 (PST)

Disambiguation
Evan, when you have the time could you have a look at User:(WT-en) Dhum Dhum/My office. I tried to disambiguate 35 places called Santa Cruz using only the 1st and 2nd disambiguation rules. Of course, I don't expect us writing about each and every Santa Cruz in this list, it was only a test to see if the current rules suffice. My main question is: is it clear from the article title which Santa Cruz is covered in the article? Those in Brazil, the Philippines and Portugal are especially interesting... Thanks for your input. (WT-en) DhDh 07:45, 26 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Wow! I can't believe that rules 1 and 2 were actually able to disambiguate that many Santa Cruzes! That's pretty amazing.

 * I actually thought that the list of Santa Cruzes was pretty clear. A few of them are a little funny, but most seem just about right. Did you think the ones in Brazil, Portugal, and the Philippines were really weird? I thought they were pretty straightforward. An unfortunate byproduct of the name's overuse, but not completely non-linear.

 * As to whether it's clear which Santa Cruz is which: no. But that's not the point of disambiguators! The point is to provide unambiguous titles, not to provide a full description of the location covered. The first paragraph should tell the reader what they're reading about.

 * Frankly, I am extremely wary of changing the naming conventions that have worked so well so far. As you've probably noticed, people follow the example they see, and I'm pretty sure that once we have Santa Cruz (province of Argentina) we're going to see Minnesota (state in the United States just south of the Canadian border with a population of 8 million and annual rainfall of 38 inches).

 * So, I guess I just want to say: please be careful with this. I understand that you're trying to achieve better clarity, but I'm afraid that without a clear algorithm for disambiguators, we're in for an extremely messy travel guide. --(WT-en) Evan 09:56, 26 Dec 2003 (PST)

Firstly, the thing with Brazil, the Philippines and Portugal is that I didn't exactly use the same rules for each of them. For Brazil I took level 2 to be the (official) state level, while there is an (unofficial/tourist) intermediate level (see Brazil). I did not take that into account. For the Philippines the 3rd (region) and 4th (province) levels are official. The 2nd level (island) is not (it could be a way to divide the country for tourist purposes). Portugal is a mix of the above. The Azores and Madeira are official regions, Alentejo and the Lisbon Coast are tourist regions above the district level (Portugal is made up of 18 districts and 2 autonomous regions). So, should we follow official or Wikivoyage divisions for the 2nd level of disambiguation (just under country level)? Some differences that would occur are: The Philippines are even more complicated because there are also (unofficial) super-region island groups (Luzon, the Visayas and Mindanao). To avoid unnecessary confusion I tend to favour the official divisions because they do offer a little more hold.

Secondly, I suggest that we use my proposal if and only if there is no way we can disambiguate places by only using rules 1 and 2. This will only be in a few extremely rare cases. I do favour the format Santa Cruz (province of Argentina). Anything more elaborate should be reduced to these rules. (WT-en) DhDh 14:35, 26 Dec 2003 (PST)

Thank you!
Evan - just to let you know - thanks so much for launching Romanian Wikivoyage! It was launched in perfect time and hopefully it will become a great travel resource. -- (WT-en) Ronline (PS: I'm still talking to those Estonians about Estonian Wikivoyage)

Struggling with disambiguations
Evan, I've got a question about disambiguations at Project:Disambiguation policy. Thanks for your input. (WT-en) DhDh 13:11, 28 Dec 2003 (PST)

Well, I admit I have been a bit too narrow-minded about disambiguations and parallelism. But still, I'd like disambiguators to be as unequivocal as possible without being too elaborate. The problem with the examples I gave is that they can be disambiguated in more than one way: horizontal (according to place - rule 2) and vertical (according to hierarchical level - rule 1). I have chosen to disambiguate them first horizontally ("Spain" - "Argentina") and then vertically ("province" - "city", of which "province" is dropped since it's already disambiguated as "Argentina"). But it could be the other way around. Take the La Rioja example (1st column = my choice, 2nd column = other possibility): For some reason I prefer the 1st column because it feels more logical.

I'm sorry if I'm really digging into this, but as much as you want uncomplicated titles, I would like clear titles. I hope I've been able to express myself in an understandable way... (WT-en) DhDh 12:19, 29 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * OK, so, I think the problem here is that the rules we have are for disambiguating two places, and you're doing three or more at a time. The problems arise when you're taking things in different order. Why don't you do this: disambig La Rioja, the Spanish province, from La Rioja, the Argentine province. Then, disambig the city from both.

 * Anyways, I think your preferred disambig is compatible, isn't it? --(WT-en) Evan 16:21, 29 Dec 2003 (PST)

Many thanks
Thanks for letting me know about leaving copyright information on submitted photographs. As you guessed, the photographs I'd uploaded were my own, and I'm happy for them to be used on the Wikivoyage, I've amended the image info to reflect this.

I can see why people get massively addicted to Wiki - I've quite enjoyed what little I've contributed so far. I'll have to have a go at updating some of those London districts - I notice there's already been some discussion about what districts to keep, and which can be lost. Probably the most sensible solution would be to use the existing borough boundaries in London as the first level beneath the city.

I'm always a bit nervous of stepping on someone's toes when amending something more significant, but I'm sure I'll get more confident over time. Anyway, thanks for the advice and the warm welcome. (WT-en) MykReeve 1:06, 30 Dec 2003 (GMT)

 * Thanks so much for your contributions so far. It's of course in our best interest to get you as addicted to Wikivoyage as possible. Don't worry too much about messing things up or stepping on toes -- just plunge forward and add what you know. --(WT-en) Evan 18:35, 29 Dec 2003 (PST)

Is there a preferred format for vector images? I can upload the original Corel Draw images, but I'm not sure how useful they would generally be. (WT-en) MykReeve 19:48, 30 Dec 2003 (GMT)

 * Well, on the Mapmaking Expedition, we recommend SVG, but I think any kind of vector format will work. Just having the bitmap format can make it hard to update stuff, though. --(WT-en) Evan 11:53, 30 Dec 2003 (PST)

Cool. I'll export them in SVG format. Good advice about getting rid of the attractions. You'll note that I've left them there for the time being - but my plan is to incorporate links to the into the regions in due course. My only concern there is that people have already contributed quite a lot of information about attractions - like London/Trafalgar_Square, for example. I'd feel bad about removing all that information. Would it be acceptable to put that link in the higher-level region (most likely London/West End) and write a smaller summary there? e.g.

 * another thing worth seeing in the West End region is Trafalgar Square, which is the home of Nelson's column - a huge pillar supporting a statue of Admiral Nelson.

...or is the aim to reduce the number of pages? (WT-en) MykReeve 20:38, 30 Dec 2003 (GMT)

 * The aim is to reduce the number of pages necessary to visit some destination. One of our goals is to have printable guides. If I'm going to spend a weekend in Bordeaux, it's great to be able to print out the Bordeaux page, put it in my backpack, and take it with me. If there's an article for every restaurant, museum, street, park, train station, I have to pick and choose which to print, or download, or whatever.

 * Breaking huge cities up into districts is a concession to practicality -- the city articles would just be too unmanageable otherwise. But the idea should be about the same. It's nice if we can break up our districts so they're relatively self-contained -- you can stay in a hotel, eat, go out, see sights, etc., all in one district. It's probably a goal that's not quite possible to reach, but it's one worth trying for. --(WT-en) Evan 12:48, 30 Dec 2003 (PST)

I've been thinking about this. My main thought here though is that people will continue to want to write very specific travel guides to individual attractions - for example; guides to what to see in museums or art galleries, or routes around them to take in the main exhibits.

My thinking on this is that these really shouldn't be discouraged - but a more superficial summary should be provided in the higher-level section of the site.

Most printed travel guides provide this level of information (at least for major attractions), and much as I agree that it would be excessive for someone spending a short time in a place to have that much information, I can see merit in keeping pages for attractions. I think that the onus should be on the traveller to decide how much information to take with them, rather than on the writers. As long as the basic information from the specific attraction page is replicated/provided on the higher-level page, I don't see the existence of the attraction page as a major inconvenience for travellers using the site.

For example, in the City of London area, I could add something like:

 * the Tower of London, located beside Tower Bridge, is open from Mo-Sa 9am-5pm, Su 9pm-1pm. Nearest tube station: Tower Hill. The seat of the British Royal family from the 10th century to the 17th century. Walking tours of the outer castle are provided by beefeaters every 30 minutes. Tickets are expensive (about £11), and a full visit takes 2-3 hours. For a more extensive guide to the Tower of London, see the Wikivoyage entry here: Tower of London, or see the official site at Historic Royal Palaces: Tower of London.

(though be aware that this information is very suspect, as I just made it up off the top of my head).

This would certainly be a good way to deal with some of the specific tourist attraction information already on the site, without providing extraneous information to travellers using Wikivoyage. (WT-en) MykReeve 11:36, 31 Dec 2003 (GMT)

Disambig
The disambiguation notice is quite clear. Maybe one addition: what about putting "You may be looking for:" just above the disambig list? (See Chaco) (WT-en) DhDh 12:27, 30 Dec 2003 (PST)

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User talk:EvanProdromou/Dec 2004

See also User talk:(WT-en) Evan/Archives

Have a look, say your opinion and what you want - it's your project
http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/article/Talk:Hospitality_exchange

 * I've been watching the discussion unfold there, and if I have anything to say, I'll add it -- thanks. Also, it's not "my" project. I don't watch every single page on the site, and I don't get involved with every single discussion. Finally, it's a lot easier just to write Talk:Hospitality exchange. --(WT-en) Evan 13:23, 6 Dec 2004 (EST)
 * Thanks. Sometimes is a objective opinion from a outsider essential and for some people needs to be one with good reputation. xxx

Housing in Montreal
Hey Evan, this isn't quite a Wikivoyage topic. :) My sister is moving to Montreal for a co-op in January, I wonder if you could give me some tips on the housing market.

Is the market tight? Should she sort it out before before she arrives? She's looking for something close to the Metro. Which neighbourhoods near the Metro should she stay out of?

If you got any ideas, I'd be happy to hear them. --(WT-en) Dawnview 01:39, 7 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * Sure. You're right that it's not Wikivoyage-related, but: I think the key thing for anglophones is to learn enough French that you can read the French-language rental ads. The ads in the English-language newspapers are slim, and they concentrate on anglophone areas of town, which tend to be more expensive. I've found a couple of apartments here, usually through the Journal de Montreal or the free weekly Voir. But there are two other French dailies (La Presse and Le Devoir) and another weekly (Ici, with weak housing listings).

 * For neighborhoods, check the map. The farther "south" (towards the St. Laurent), the better chance of being near the metro. The closer to the Old Town, the better the neighborhoods are... up until you actually get downtown. Really, the only scuzzy part of town is on the Ste Catherine corridor from, say, de Lorimier up to University. Most young people tend to stay in N.D.G. (anglophone), the Plateau (francophone), St. Henri (mixed), Hochelaga (really francophone).

 * Finally, tell her to call us when she gets to town and stop by for dinner! --(WT-en) Evan 09:53, 7 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * Will do. Thanks a lot for the tips, that info will be quite useful. Fortunately my sister speaks French, so she's got that one in the bag. :) --(WT-en) Dawnview 21:34, 7 Dec 2004 (EST)

Images
I read your message on my Wikipedia talk page. Actually I don't like too much the Creative Commons Attribution non-Commercial Share-Alike licence for the text, even if for the images it's not so bad. But as I see now, your licence is different and I don't have anything against it. Your licence allows commercial use, which I think is quite useful for the strength of a project. You could use my images even if the commercial use were forbidden, so go on if you find something interesting on my gallery (or if you want to commission some photo I'll take during my promenades). Chopinhauer

edits
Evan you reverted some edits I made (to the drinking section) on Montreal... why? just a little restructure, and added a couple of fine establishments. what gives? cheers (WT-en) Mackinaw 16:15, 11 Dec 2004 (EST)
 * See Talk:Montreal. -- (WT-en) Colin 16:30, 11 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * Exactly. I hadn't realized you'd added anything. I'll try and salvage your additions. --(WT-en) Evan 21:58, 11 Dec 2004 (EST)

Wikimedia
Hey Evan! Just a note that I'm still interested in advocating for Wikivoyage's admission as a Wikimedia project (that is, if you guys want to). It is likely that the GFDL will not be the only licence Wikimedia uses for newer projects such as Wikinews, so that is no longer a reason to stay apart. Everything would run the same way here as they are now; the only difference would be swapping the CC logo at the bottom of each page with the Wikimedia project logo and the fact that all the behind the scenes stuff (such as hosting, software upgrades and fundraising) would be taken care of by the foundation. Being part of Wikimedia would also mean a much higher profile for this project, since it will be listed as a sister project to Wikipedia and geographic Wikipedia articles would have eye-catching boxes leading to corresponding Wikivoyage pages. See the Wikiquote and Wikisource boxs at Bill Clinton for an example. Cool logo, BTW. :) --(WT-en) Maveric149 19:00, 13 Dec 2004 (EST)

Vfd
So I've been trying to help out on the vfd front a bit. I understand why the magic buttons don't appear on my browser (I think) and I actually prefer it that way. But I was wondering... is there a URL I could format manually (with great care) to have the right effect for implementing article vfds? -- (WT-en) Colin 21:36, 16 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * I appear to have solved my own problem. I think. -- (WT-en) Colin 19:21, 17 Dec 2004 (EST)

Wikivoyage kudos
What a great idea this project is! Thanks to you and all of the Wikivoyage contributors. I'll be traveling and working in West Africa in the spring, and will be sure to contribute articles on some of the nations not yet covered in depth.

MediaWiki
Hi Evan. Are the modifications you've made to MediaWiki publicly available? For Wikicities, I'd like to have inter-project links to Wikipedia etc appear in the sidebar like you do here but I don't know enough about PHP to do this myself. (WT-en) Angela 13:31, 22 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * It doesn't require any modifications to MediaWiki. You just have to add the Wikimedia Interwiki records to the interwiki table, set their iw_local flag to "1" (true). Finally, you have to add the interwiki prefix you used to the language names array in Language.php. I also changed the string "Other languages" to "Other sites/languages", since that makes more sense.

 * Thanks.

 * I hope that helps. I haven't heard of Wikicities, but I'd be interested to see it. From the name, I'm guessing that it's either a city guides, a la Open Guides, or a free wiki hosting service, like Wiki + Geocities. If it's the first, I'd suggest you coordinate your effort with the Open Guides guys. If it's the second, I'd suggest changing the name, as Yahoo! is pretty well known for enforcing its trademarks, and it'd be a shame to have to change the name. Good luck, --(WT-en) Evan 05:12, 23 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * Wikicities.com is a site with aim of building wiki communities, rather than being a pure hosting company. The wikis are freely hosted, and can be on any topic that would attract a large enough community. I'm not convinced the suffix "cities" could be trademarkable, but we'll see :) (WT-en) Angela 11:54, 10 Jan 2005 (EST)

Tidal Wave
Hi Evan, I know that you are likely to make an edit to Wikivoyage next you have access anyhow, but just in case you don't see anything else to do, here's a note to respond to so that we all know that you and MAJ were not swept away into the sea by a gigantic tidal wave on Christmas. Thank you. -- (WT-en) Mark 09:58, 26 Dec 2004 (EST)

 * We're doing great! No need for alarm, but thanks for the concern. --08:33, 27 Dec 2004 (EST)

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Re: GFDL, yes that's what I figured. How annoying considering I was the (only) writer of the Wikipedia article on Tioman, and now I have to refactor my own words to make it usable here. Oh well, maybe someday I'll get around to doing that, but it's hard to get excited about "rephrasing" so it will have to wait. I understand the necessity of doing the legal thing, I really do, but my eyes glaze over with complete boredom at this kind of stuff, so I'll keep pitching in on more interesting stuff. Thanks. (WT-en) Fuzheado 04:43, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * I checked the Wikipedia history, and yes, it seems like you're the only author there. I thus reverted the article to your original version, and reformatted to be more like a Wikivoyage article. I also put a note on the Talk page about it, so that it doesn't happen again. --(WT-en) Evan 10:31, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

What is a good reason? I figured Kuala Lampur had a link to it, but Bears didn't, and we don't need an article about bears (though we do have one about Bern). -(WT-en) phma 21:12, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * I'm not saying we need Bears. But I think the rule of thumb should be: can we let this article entry sit for the 7 days required to let it go through the votes for deletion queue? If so, then we should favor v.f.d. over immediate deletion.

 * This has the dual value of a) stating the principle of why Bears isn't a good article for a travel guide and b) pointing out that finding and removing articles that don't meet our goals isn't the exclusive job of people with their admin bit flipped. Yes, only admins can give the final chop, but we're all supposed to be checking for it.

 * The deletion policy explicitly says that admins can delete at will. But I'd rather that we don't get in that habit if we don't have to. --(WT-en) Evan 10:31, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

Thanks for the clarification re: copyright and content for Tioman. (WT-en) Fuzheado 23:35, 2 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Thanks also for the notes on leaving comments (Manchester UK Talk pages) (WT-en) Alasdair 21:51, 14 Feb 2004 (EST)

Dear Mighty Silverback,

I'm working on a python script that will suck in the TIGERLine data and spit out SVG that people then can manipulate in whatever way. This will be cool because then we will be able to do most US city maps fairly easily (I hope.)

So when I'm done with this tool I don't want it just published on my site, because if my box disappears or I buy the farm it may disappear forever. Is there a way to make it part of the Wiki easily, and how would I do this? Just make a new node and paste it in? Or is there a better magical way?

-- (WT-en) Yosemite 01:54, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * So, the idea being to save the code for future or downstream users? That's a cool idea. How about using Special:Upload to upload a tarball? Or just upload the Python script? This is a really good idea, by the way -- I'm quite impressed! --(WT-en) Evan 01:58, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Actually, I had another idea. We can set up an arch repository on, say, arch.wikivoyage.org, for just this kind of thing. Maybe sftp for write access, http for read-only access? Does that sound reasonable? --(WT-en) Evan 12:25, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Sounds good to me. I'm writing my own map converter, which will be ready for drawing its first map in a couple of days, and would like to upload it and maybe cross-fertilize with Yosemite's (it's also in Python). I don't think Special:Upload is right for programs, since they should have a different license - what license is appropriate? -(WT-en) phma 18:48, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Arch is fine by me. The setup sounds about right.  As far as licenses go I plan on putting mine under the GPL since it is now not part of the Wiki.

-- (WT-en) Yosemite 21:14, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

Buying / renting
Evan, it was never my intention to blank the page. I must have done it by mistake. I looked at it afterwards and when I didn't see anything I thought it had to be something with my browser or Wikivoyage itself. Never thought it could actually be *me* :-( Sorry, but as you know I've got lots of work and I *am* pretty tired. I wish I could do more for Wikivoyage, but alas... (WT-en) DhDh 16:36, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * No sweat. I figured it was a mistake. I just wanted to let you know that I'd reverted, in case you did do it on purpose for some good reason I didn't understand.

 * Anyways, take it easy, don't kill yourself! Wikivoyage's supposed to be fun -- a relief from work, not extra work. --(WT-en) Evan 16:49, 3 Feb 2004 (EST)

Photos
Evan, no sweat. I've added language certifying that I took the photos and give Wikivoyage my blessing to use them. Let me know if you need anything more than that. (WT-en) Fuzheado 00:31, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Nope, that's it! Thanks a ton! --(WT-en) Evan 11:03, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Help!
Evan, there is definitely something wrong with my browser. I just posted a comment on the traveller's pub and most of the page was gone! What's worse: I'm unable to revert it. This time I know I didn't do anything wrong. I'll have a look at it this weekend. Could you fix the page for me? Thanks a lot! (WT-en) DhDh 12:32, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Oh man!!!! I should sink in the ground of shame!!!!! :-((((( (WT-en) DhDh 12:34, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * No, that's perfectly reasonable. It seems like the "Post a comment" feature should go to the pub itself, not to the talk page. There are a couple of other pages like this: bug reports, feature requests.

 * I'm wondering if maybe doing a redirect from the Talk: page to the page itself would work... I'm going to experiment a bit. But, uh... hee hee. --(WT-en) Evan 12:51, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

Meeting in London
I left a note on Maj's page too... Are you guys interested in meeting up while you're in London? Is there a meet with London Wikipedians already organised? - (WT-en) MykReeve 17:18, 9 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * I don't think there's a Wikipedia meet for that week, but I started a Wikivoyage meetup for the third Monday of each month. See http://wikivoyage.meetup.com/. I'm not sure whether any of the locations listed there are any good, but maybe it's a start. Monday at 7PM seem OK to you? --(WT-en) Evan 16:21, 10 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Yeah, that'd be fine. I finish work at around 5:30 most days. Given that only one of the locations on meetup.com for London is a pub (and one located in the wilds of Southwark at that!), I hope you won't mind if I suggest a more central location. The Round Table pub, near Leicester Square tube is pretty good, and usually fairly empty on a Monday night. It's here on a pedestrianised street called St Martin's Court, just behind Wyndham's Theatre. Like most London pubs, it has an intriguing history: The Round Table. Quite irritating that meetup.com won't let you suggest your own meeting locations without giving them money... not so keen on that aspect of the site.

 * I notice meetup.com offers Forbidden Planet as a meeting point, which has received one vote... The shop's actually changed location since then - it's now on Shaftesbury Avenue round about here. So if there is a reason to want to go there (buying your body weight in Star Wars merchandising, or similar) then it'll mean a little walk. - (WT-en) MykReeve 17:21, 10 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Hope this is still on. Will see you and Maj this evening. Any probs, drop me an email. - (WT-en) MykReeve 05:05, 16 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * We'll be there. See you at the Round Table at 7PM. --(WT-en) Evan 11:34, 16 Feb 2004 (EST)

Seattle map
Evan, I've seen that same map repurposed often here in Seattle, and there is no copyright claim on the web page it comes from (though, admittedly there is for some other content on the site). I am certain that the last thing the city would want to do, even if copyright exists, is enforce it against a web site that promotes tourism to their city.

Having dealt with the city gov't here, including their webmasters, it would be incredibly tedious to get explicit permission to use it, and I'm not going to pursue that wild goose chase.

If you actually think this is a problem, ping me again, and I will create a (probably slightly less topographically accurate) map from scratch. We really do need something, though, because these neighborhoods are how everyone in Seattle talks about where anything is. -- (WT-en) Jmabel 19:32, 9 Feb 2004 (EST)

Breadcrumbs
Hi Evan. How do you feel about putting breadcrumbs (similar to the Romania Wikivoyage) on each page to indicate the hierarchy for each location? I find them really helpful and would contribute many if you don't mind having them. -- (WT-en) Anca

 * Actually, I want to automate this feature, so you can just put:

region=Catalonia

...into the Barcelona page, and all the breadcrumb stuff gets worked out automatically.

 * There's a note on Project:Feature requests about this. So, absolutely positively please don't do this.

 * Also, a good idea would be to bring this kind of thing up on Project:Article templates. --(WT-en) Evan 10:22, 13 Feb 2004 (EST)

Quick Linking?
Also, how about putting page templates in an easier place (like under the "special pages" link in the left-hand site). I often have 10-15 minutes and I could use them to add some of the most-requested pages, but I am intimidated by having to hunt for the right template. Am I just super-lazy? -- (WT-en) Anca

 * No, it's a good idea. I use a browser bookmark to go straight to the templates, but I think you're right about adding quick links. I'll look into it. --(WT-en) Evan 10:23, 13 Feb 2004 (EST)

Counting all pages
I counted 26 destinations, countries, etc. on fr:, out of 34 articles (the rest are mostly phrasebooks and redirects). How do I list all articles in the Wikivoyage: namespace? We've been quite busy on those too.

By the way, I made a pun when editing one of the meta pages on fr:. Can you figure it out? -(WT-en) phma 20:44, 15 Feb 2004 (EST)

Cross language links bug
Some people have reported this bug on Wikivoyage. Is it fixed? cf. http://www.fr.wikivoyage.org/wiki/article/Wikivoyage:Caf%C3%A9_des_Voyageurs#Liens_vers_Wikip%C3%A9dia There was a similar bug on Wikisource cf. http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2004-February/008456.html Thanks. (WT-en) Yann 11:49, 16 Feb 2004 (EST)

Need your help
Hi Evan,

Two more things, we need your help. Thanks, (WT-en) Yann 16:47, 19 Feb 2004 (EST)
 * 1) How to change the Recentchanges head, as I asked in the pub: Project:Travellers%27_pub?
 * 2) On fr: the Aide link on the top of each page is wrong. It should lead to Project:Aide.
 * 3) What about the bug I have mentioned above?

 * So, 1) I have to do on the server, in the LanguageFr.php file. Drop in the Wiki markup you want on that page right here, and I'll update it on the server.
 * A link from fr:RC to English and from en:RC to French would be nice. Actually, would it be possible that we can edit it ourselves, as fr:Wikipedia and en:Wikipedia ? Thanks, (WT-en) Yann 13:34, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * 2) should be fixed now. There was an error in the LanguageFr.php file, where the undefined $wgSitenamespace was used instead of $wgMetaNamespace.

 * 3) I'll try to get to the Wikipedia-link bug today. It means fiddling with a couple of .php files and a database table on the server. --(WT-en) Evan 08:10, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

Looking for (net http) (guile)
Hello Evan,

sorry for the off-topic post here, but I couldn't find an "e-mail this user" link on your personal page. I am currently updating the broken links on the GNU guile project page. One of the broken ones is the one for (net http), pointing to http://evan.prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us/software/net-http/

You can reply by mail: thomas.kappler@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de

Greetings, Thomas

Logo
Hi Evan ! I imported the Wikivoyage logo on fr:WP and Yann did it on en:WP. But we didn't mention any licence. Is it total free or copyleft (ASA) or GFDL ? copyright ??! :o) --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 05:31, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * As far as I know, it's under the by-sa 1.0. See Project:logo contest for details. --(WT-en) Evan 07:46, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * As I understood, there was only one proposition. Right ? :o( And the "vote" is over now. I think this logo would have been better if the flèche was in the other direction, I mean from left to right (=dynamism and looking forward). The actual sens seems to say Wikivoyage is looking backward. :o( --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 08:55, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Did you want to find out the license information for the logo, or were you interested in debating its merits? B-) I think it looks great, but if you think it's unacceptable, and we need to start working on a new one, let's get that process started. Maybe on the Travellers' pub? By the way, there are two arrows, and if I'm not mistaken they follow the prevailing winds in both hemispheres. --(WT-en) Evan 09:02, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * 1) prevailing winds blow this way around équateur, and in the other way beyond the 30° parallèle (look here)(take a look to the traject of sailors around the globe), so it's ot a good argument, but it doesn't matter :o) It was just about esthetic.
 * 2) I didn't want to resart a vote on the logo, qui me plait bien en soi :o), I just told you my opinion about this esthetic choice and the regret there was no other proposition. --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 09:45, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * OK, I guess I misunderstood you. Sorry! Looks like you're correct about the winds, too. I would have liked to have gotten more logo contest entries, but we didn't, and we got a surprisingly good one as the one entry, so I consider us lucky. --(WT-en) Evan 09:47, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Oui, nous avons eu de la chance :o) --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 10:08, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

Wechselbot
I proposed a script called Wechselbot. What do you think? -(WT-en) phma 21:59, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

Links to Wikipedia
copie de la discussion sur fr:WT

Hi Evan. Something else now : how can we make a link to an article on fr:Wikipédia, like for example http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe with Europe. The way we do on en:WT doesn't work hier --Pontauxchats 13 fév 2004 à 04:39 (EST)
 * mais non pas en anglais il a dit le monsieur ;-)
 * En français : Dis-moi Evan, comment peut-on faire un lien entre un article du fr:WT vers le fr:WP ? le systême employé sur en:WP ne marche pas ici !?? --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 08:03, 27 Feb 2004 (EST)

title: User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb 2004


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User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb 2005

See also User talk:(WT-en) Evan/Archives

Rollback All patch is ready
I'm going to try to upload it, or alternatively you can get it from

http://www.geekhive.net/~mark/mediawiki_1.3.5_rollback_all.diff

It only rolls back whatever can be seen on a given rendition of the Special:Contributions page, which should allow for fairly fine control by the admin using it over demand on resources, etc.

Of course this should be a good bit lighter than my LWP script no matter what.

Meanwhile, I'm not sure I chose the best place to put the [ rollback all ] link. I'd love to have feedback. -- (WT-en) Mark 10:54, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Um, are you guys sure this is needed? At least yesterday I was able to do a single diff between the original and 3 edits by a vandal, and a normal rollback was able to restore the original. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:57, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * It came up a few days ago when a single vandal blanked some 500 pages or so in the course of a couple of hours. I wrote a quick Perl script using LWP to click all of the rollback links on a given IP user's contributions page, and so was able to catch up.  Evan later suggested that a Rollback All link would be a more elegant approach.

 * Having this is really preferable to blocking the IP, even for a short period of time. -- (WT-en) Mark 05:39, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

GoBetween
Evan, I'll do the GB, if you'd be so kind to tell me, in what way the reports shall be done. (WT-en) Denisoliver 03:42, 11 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * The language version policy has a section on go-betweens. The go-between has to write a few lines in the en: logbook about what's happening on the other version. As far as I'm concerned, this is the minimal g-b report:

 * The xx: Wikivoyage language community still exists, we're editing articles, and at least one of us cares enough about maintaining a link with the rest of the community to post this message.

 * That's really the point of the g-b report; it's a community-oriented "ping". I think more useful ones have more information -- especially stuff that someone who doesn't speak the language couldn't figure out. Like, this would be my go-between report for en: for January:

 * Wikivoyage en: grew steadily in Jan 2005, with 200 new articles added. Bangkok was the destination of the month. We had a spike in new users around the 9th, as Wikivoyage was mentioned in an article on http://slashdot.org/ . The Travel news section, started in response to December's tsunamis, continues to grow. A spirited discussion about relaxing the sex tourism policy was inconclusive. Bugs still present from the November catastrophe and caching extension continue to bother old and new users.

 * It may be a good idea to write a g-b report and let it sit on the language version for a few days to let other people add information. I'm sure I've left some important stuff out of the above listing.

 * It would be great, I think, if we did g-b reports for en: too. This would make it easier for g-b's to translate and copy to the other languages. I'll bring this up in the Logbook. --(WT-en) Evan 10:44, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

Evan, the German Administrator nominations for Limbodancer and EBB have been present now for slightly more than a month. In this time both users have agreed to be admins, but even though I placed a call to vote on the top of the Mainpage, only 1 user voted beside me. Obviously we still have a democracy problem here. Now LimboDancer has 2 pro-votes and EBB 1, but I would like to ask you to please make them both admins. Have a look at their work up to now and see that they are good workers which continously come back (though not always often) and are present in discussions too. Their help would be really helpful for me and the German wikivoyage. (WT-en) Denisoliver 21:11, 25 Feb 2005 (EST)

Paul's Sister....
Hi Evan,

This is Paul Holden's sister....a few months ago he mentioned to you that I would be moving to Montreal...well I'm here now! I've been here for a few weeks but havn't done much except work! I'm actually looking for a new place to live and was wondering if you knew of anything for March? Also wondering if you have suggestions for good places to hear bands (any kind of music) and see the art scene....plays etc.

Hope you do! Thanks,

Madeline

 * I don't think he knows me by that name. :) --(WT-en) Dawnview 01:18, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Oops. Yeah, I let this one slip by. My phone # is 554-EVAN, Madeline; you should call me and we'll talk. --(WT-en) Evan 06:51, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

Hey! Thanks for the reply...I'm in Toronto for the weeekend but I'll give you a call sometime next week when I get back. -Madeline :)

Arch
Hey Evan, I'm getting into working on the perl Module again, and have noticed that apparently the arch archive didn't get migrated onto the new server. It's no big deal if hosting arch isn't possible anymore. I can just move it to geekhive or possibly sourceforge. Just let me know. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Mark 05:12, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Hosting arch is entirely possible. The big question is: what did I do with those files? I've got to deal with the server move today, but I'll work on getting arch running in the next few days. --(WT-en) Evan 10:17, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Just out of curiosity, what do you think about Subversion? -- (WT-en) Mark 14:29, 19 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I haven't tried it much, but I've grown very fond of Arch over the last couple of years, and my understanding of svn is that it's nowhere near as cool and flexible. --(WT-en) Evan 09:51, 21 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I'd like to get arching again too - I'm working on a map of Brazil, and I'd like to add some new features to azimap so that I can reuse paths (e.g. define the Amazonas-Mato Grosso boundary once and use it twice, the second time backward). -(WT-en) phma 18:34, 26 Feb 2005 (EST)

title: User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb 2005


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User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb 2006

See also User talk:(WT-en) Evan/Archives

Redirect cycle
Talk:Finding accommodation is yet another redirect loop requiring SQL intervention. -- (WT-en) Colin 17:56, 2 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * ditto Talk:Ko_Pha_Ngan

What about the RDF bread crumb menu?
Hi Evan, If it's possible I would really like to have the bread crumb menue extention for a wiki project I'm working on.
 * Thanks-(WT-en) F16 06:21, 3 Feb 2006 (EST)

Categorizing and publicizing Shared
The consensus on Shared seems to be that Wikipedia-style categories are the way to go. Would it be possible to enable this and publicize the Shared repository more widely, so we can really start using it? It's kind of stuck in limbo now. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:21, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * Sounds great. I'm in Portland this morning and in the air this afternoon and evening, but I'll see if I can twiddle it tomorrow morning. --(WT-en) Evan 11:47, 5 Feb 2006 (EST) 11:46, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)

French mailling list
Hi Evan,  You asked me to be one of the admistrators of the French mailing list. That's OK, I'll do the job. Regards, (WT-en) Julien 11:02, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)

Problem with { {isIn} }
Hi Evan!

Why doesn't the "{ {isIn|Norway} }" work in the Østfold article? Is it because of the special character "Ø"?

 * Yes, it's the special character. I don't know why it happens, but an initial non-ASCII character seems to throw the RDF parser off. I'm going to see if I can tweak it. --(WT-en) Evan 22:52, 6 Feb 2006 (EST)

Swedish Wikivoyage
Hi Evan, you have an answer on my Talk page! How's it going with the changes I e-mailed you? Best Regards (WT-en) Riggwelter 03:25, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * I haven't started, but it looks like you've been doing some interface work. Do you still want me to work on it? --(WT-en) Evan 18:38, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)

IRC/Jabber... etc.
I'm not on any kind of IM at the moment, but should be on Google/Jabber shortly. -- (WT-en) Mark 15:29, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * I'm glad you popped into #wikivoyage on freenode; it seems to be becoming a fun channel. We should do it more often. --(WT-en) Evan 18:32, 10 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * Agreed. I'll try to sign on evenings. -- (WT-en) Mark 03:50, 11 Feb 2006 (EST)

Spam blacklist
Hi Evan, there have been several cases of spam appearing on Talk:Zurich, Talk:Taipei and others today. In each case, the spam that appeared was already listed on the Project:Local spam blacklist, so something seems to be amiss. -- (WT-en) Ryan 17:59, 12 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Possibly related -- I can't edit New York (city) because of a link to **lfordplaza.com, which is already on the whitelist. (Also, can't mention the name of the site here either.)  (WT-en) Jonboy 11:07, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Yes, all related. Should be fixed now, thanks for the heads-up. --(WT-en) Evan 11:33, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Thanks! (WT-en) Jonboy 11:41, 13 Feb 2006 (EST)

Spam whitelist
Hi Evan, another spam filter issue. Can you take a look at Project:Local spam whitelist? Even if I completely remove all text from the "On the Strip" section of the Las Vegas article the spam filter is triggering and telling me that "casion (dot) com" is spam, despite the fact that that text appears nowhere in the edit. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Ryan 01:17, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * (WT-en) Colin added a HTML comment in one of the URLs, and trying the same I'm now able to save the section within Las Vegas. However, I would still compose songs in your honor were the bug that prevented the page from originally being saved ever to be solved.  Be warned that I'm no Bob Dylan... -- (WT-en) Ryan 02:41, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * I wish I could solve it, but in the interim I've just disabled the (upstream) regex that causes the problem. --(WT-en) Evan 19:39, 19 Feb 2006 (EST)

Tried to add to Badlands and Black Hills and it didn't work for some reason. Could it be because they both start with the same name? -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 17:21, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * No, it was because I screwed up all the RDF stuff pretty bad, trying to make it work better. Sorry for the temporary mixup; it should be working now. --(WT-en) Evan 17:32, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)

License
I notice Image:Krishna butter ball.jpg is licensed with cc-bysa 2.0. If we're allowing content other than 1.0, that's news to me. Specifically, you might want to check out vfd where I've nominated at least one cc-bysa 2.0 image as being incompatible with our license and maybe explain it there. -- (WT-en) Colin 21:51, 21 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * OK, I will. Here's my feelings: I think that public domain and cc-by 1.0 and 2.x licenses are compatible with cc-by-sa 1.0, in that you can combine PD or cc-by works into a cc-by-sa 1.0 work, and the distributor of the new work can still comply with the license. For a cc-by image, we need to give attribution to the upstream author. Since that's part of the cc-by-sa 1.0 anyways, it doesn't seem to be incompatible with our license. Licenses that have requirements that aren't also in cc-by-sa 1.0 would probably be Not OK, though. In a mathematical sense, if the set of requirements of the upstream license is a subset of the set of requirements of CC, then we don't have a problem. That's my fuzzy thinking on the matter. --(WT-en) Evan 19:57, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

PD Images from Wikipedia
I found some images on Wikipedia of Oklahoma City (example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Okc.jpg) that have been released to the Public Domain by user Tosei. Is it okay to use these on Wikivoyage? -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 16:30, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Yes. "released to the public domain" means you can take the picture and use it as if you owned all rights to the copy. If you modify it, you own all rights to the derived work and can relicense the derived work under whatever restrictive license you please. See WikiPedia:Public Domain. -- (WT-en) Colin 17:04, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

14 days on Project:Administrator nominations
Just a friendly reminder that more than 14 days have gone by since (WT-en) Maj nominated (WT-en) Tom to be an admin, and according to the policy since there haven't been any objections he's due to have some bits flipped. -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:58, 26 February 2006 (EST)

title: User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb 2006


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User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb-Mar 2007

See also User talk:(WT-en) Evan/Archives

Please direct the following questions to the right spots:

 * Technical requests like feature requests or bug reports should be posted using the tool at wts:Technical requests.

wikiwyg
Hi Evan. Jason Richey pointed me to you when i asked for the latest on wikiwyg. do you have anything new that you have been working on? i would be willing to help out anyway i can (testing, etc). thx. --(WT-en) Phalseid 23:56, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Blog comment and response
Hi Evan,

I've moderated your comment on my blog - didn't realise quite who you were at the time! - and posted a response. How did you come upon my blog by the way? (WT-en) Snecklifter 17:40, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

www.chruz.com

Call me ASAP
Hi Evan,

Can you call me ASAP on my cell: 819-712-2813. I have some important decisions to make this week regarding the multilingual wiki project, and I can't make them without knowing more about your level of interest.

I will leave a message on Michele-Ann's page also.

Thx

Alain

Template:Failedstarnomination
Evan, can you have a look at this, it looks most strange on my IE7 - only about 1/6 of the words show. Is it the same on your screen? -- (WT-en) DanielC 15:42, 2 February 2007 (EST)

Flickr
Hi. I asked a question about Flickr at wts:WtTech:Add_ImportFreeImages_extension. Not sure if that's the right place, and more importantly not sure if you'd notice it so I'm pinging you here. -- (WT-en) Jonboy 10:36, 3 February 2007 (EST)

Willy on wheels
User:(WT-en) Joseph Stalin is making life hell for all on wikivoyage. Please bump him off the site. ---(WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 09:38, 6 February 2007 (EST)

 * I think the storm has passed. Willy's been a minor annoyance on Wikivoyage for several years, and we've managed to survive so far. I have to admit that I actually like the way that Wikivoyagers band together and deal with this kind of nuisance. Together we are stronger and more powerful than any single vandal can be.

 * I'm not a big fan of user bans; they are pretty ineffective on an open site like a wiki, where anyone can just go create a new account. Also, Willy is looking for attention, and a user ban is just the kind of ineffectual authoritarian action that he loves. In my opinion, the best thing to do is expend minimal effort: sweep up patiently after him and avoid personal interactions.

 * You may disagree; we have a Project:User ban nominations page if you want to nominate someone for a ban. Just remember: the point isn't to move some page to some other name; it's to get under our skin. --(WT-en) Evan 09:43, 6 February 2007 (EST)

 * ok (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 05:44, 7 February 2007 (EST)

Site problems
I think this CNN report about a hacking attack may be the explanation behind those site problems I reported yesterday. See. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 03:08, 7 February 2007 (EST)

followup on Talk:Greece
Evan, could you please comment on my last question in Talk:Greece? See bottom of the discussion. Thank you. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 22:10, 8 February 2007 (EST)

St.Petersburg
Dear Evan,

I see you removed a list of cities where crime rates are considerably higher than St.Petersburg. I was shocked when I read some of the misleading and offensive rubbish in the article. Then I thought to compare it to other city articles like London where I find a much better balanced view. I respect your opinion regarding the list of countries you removed but I really feel St.Petersburg needs to be put in context so I have made the list less quantitative and more qualitative. I am in a position to comment on these maters since I live in the city for 6 months of the year and own several apartments there.

Regards, Oliver

 * Hi, Oliver. I understand your point; I removed the longer list because I thought the point was made fine without it. It's probably not necessary to get into a long discussion of the general state of murder rates world-wide on the St. Petersburg page. Thanks a lot for your work. --(WT-en) Evan 20:58, 10 February 2007 (EST)

OpenID
Hi Evan. Got your note on WikiOutdoors. I am open to your suggestion (pun intended!). I'll put a note in our forums section on technology so Michael sees the request. He'll be in touch probably via talk page to discuss the details. Thanks! (WT-en) Kirasw 14:11, 11 February 2007 (EST)

 * I'm glad you were able to identify the value of my suggestion. (Teehee!) My friend Enid will be happy to hear about it. I'll use my pen to write her a note. B-) Anyways, he can contact me on my WikiOutdoors talk page. --(WT-en) Evan 09:20, 12 February 2007 (EST)

 * Evan, Just a quick update on Open ID and WikiOutdoors. We are in the process of updating to the latest version of the wikicode. Our outdated version would require significant modifications to your extension; as such implementing it has been put on hold until we are using version 1.9.  I'll keep you updated with our progress. -Michael

last comment accidentally replaced entire page...
I’m writing from Lonely Planet, one of the largest travel media companies in the world. I see that you will be attending South x Southwest Interactive in March. Chris Boden, our Director of Global Business Development and Blake Hutchinson, Director of Partnerships and Licensing will also be attending on behalf of Lonely Planet. They would like to meet up with you while at the conference to discuss opportunities for partnerships as Lonely Planet is moving more into the digital space. Are you available on Monday, March 12th, in the afternoon? I can best be reached by email at amy.todd@lonelyplanet.com. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 63.80.104.24 (talk • contribs)

 * Lonely Planet, eh? Hmmm... name rings a bell. B-) I'll send an email to you and we can make some time to talk. --(WT-en) Evan 15:20, 12 February 2007 (EST)

WIKIWYG Help
Hey Evan,

I contacted a Mr. Jason Richey in regards to help with applying wikiwyg, and he told me it would be best to get your help.

Im currently in a coop position for the Government of Canada, and am trying to give a good enough impression to go full time. One of the tasks they have given me is to implement a wysiwyg editor into a wiki. I tried the whole FCKeditor thing however path issues are causing it not to work or the wiki itself.

I found some files, however have no idea if they are the right ones, or how to even go about installing everything. Any and all help is truly appreciated and I sincerely thank you for just taking the time to read this.

- Peter M

ParserFunctions
Hi Evan, could we install the extension "ParserFunctions"? Then we would be able to make fancy templates, like the automatic generation of a map showing the location of a city, or converting the climate-tables from plain text to a diagram. I made a "offical" request on shared:. Thanks! --(WT-en) Flip666 13:29, 17 February 2007 (EST)

 * We already have a system for making maps, and we already have ParserFunctions installed. I'll check your request, though.--(WT-en) Evan 19:44, 17 February 2007 (EST)

 * Thanks, I didn't test it on de:, it works fine there. Sorry. --(WT-en) Flip666 15:17, 23 February 2007 (EST)

copyleft
Hey Evan, do you want to maybe shed some light on a conversation over on shared regarding copyleft and images licensed other than cc by 1.0? (WT-en) - Cacahuate 05:07, 18 February 2007 (EST)

spam filter
Hi Evan - the spam filter seems to be disabled after the upgrade. Talk:Main Page got hit with something that should have been blocked, and I was able to add a spam pattern to a sandbox page. -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:03, 22 February 2007 (EST)

 * That's weird. OK, I'll take a look. --(WT-en) Evan 00:14, 22 February 2007 (EST)

 * Until it's working again, I've protected Talk:Main Page. -- (WT-en) Colin 00:15, 22 February 2007 (EST)

 * OK, it seems to be working again. The problem was that for some reason the upgrade script deleted MediaWiki:spamwhitelist and MediaWiki:spamblacklist -- the two MW messages that let the spam filter know where to look for its whitelist and blacklist respectively. (That lets the names be translated for non-English WT versions). I've restored the pages -- I'll look to see what other language versions need. --(WT-en) Evan 00:24, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Fake edit
Testing user talk notification. --207.134.56.158 00:29, 22 February 2007 (EST)

 * and again. --207.134.56.158 00:34, 22 February 2007 (EST)

proposal to set up wikivoyage abbreviations page
hi evan, what about starting a page to list all the abbreviations of wikivoyage-specific vocabulary. You know, MoS, DotM, CoW, OTBP and that sort of stuff. Please let me know what you think on this on this talk page, I'll have it on my watchlist. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage 08:35, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * Project:Jargon! — (WT-en) Ravikiran 08:52, 22 February 2007 (EST)

2 step watch/unwatch
So a while back someone was asking about this in the pub, and according to Mark it looked unlikely... though when I was just patrolling some edits, I notice on the "this page has been patrolled" page there was an "unwatch" tab up top... and I was able to toggle back and forth with one click, no confirmations. Also when I'm editing a page on my watchlist it shows that option. But if I'm just looking at a page on my watchlist, it still just shows the "watch" tab as it always was, and is followed by a confirm page. Can this be fixed? That's a super new feature, I hope so! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 18:26, 22 February 2007 (EST)

 * The inconsistency has been fixed; we're back to the good ol' watch/unwatch tab, with the extra commit page. There's a new option for ]-based watching, and I'm going to experiment with it to see if it work. If so, I'll roll it out here. --[[User:(WT-en) Evan|(WT-en) Evan 07:26, 23 February 2007 (EST)

fi-wikivoyage
I exist! But interwikilinks from fi to anywhere else don't seem to work? (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:46, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * And from anywhere else to fi. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 21:52, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * Fixed. Also: fancy sig you got there, pardner. --(WT-en) Evan 22:50, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * Links to ca, eo and hu still don't work. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:53, 23 February 2007 (EST)
 * Interwikis from ca: to fi: are still kaput. -- (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 09:02, 24 February 2007 (EST)
 * Interwikis from hu: and eo: to ca: and fi: also still don't work. (WT-en) Strapontin 15:49, 26 February 2007 (EST)
 * I just figured out what's going on -- my interwiki scripts were using my old file for languages. I've fixed it so the correct languages are shown, and I've restarted memcached and cleared caches to fix any existing problems. Thanks for the notice. --(WT-en) Evan 15:59, 26 February 2007 (EST)

you made a funny
Evan I'm looking for new business ideas, being jobless and all... and one that involves travel would be great... in short, I'm applying for the t-shirt stand job... p.s., I grew up in Midland, and have actually been to Lubbock... bet you don't hear that often... (WT-en) - Cacahuate 14:20, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Template:Related rendering incorrectly?
Is it just me or is the related template rendering as raw &lt ;relatedpages&gt ; (spaces added intentionally), eg Zion, Royal Natal National Park, Blyde River Canyon
 * I restored the MW template that was deleted during the upgrade. Currently, the site is purging the cache and whatever else it does so it may take a moment before everything is working right. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 16:07, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Template:hasDocent seems to now be doing the same thing... Los Angeles, Santa Fe (New Mexico)... (WT-en) - Cacahuate 12:48, 24 February 2007 (EST)

My real name
Hi Evan,

I've read your question on your pages but I haven't seen any option to leave you a comment, so I come here to let you know the answer.

I confirm that Carme Pla is my real name. Carme is the catalan version of the more widely spread "Carmen", thanks to the opera by Bizet. Pla is a common name in Catalunya; one famous writer with this name was Josep Pla.

By the way, thanks again for your support with the launch of the !!!

((WT-en) Carmepla 03:41, 25 February 2007 (EST))

 * Carme: it's a lovely name. I just realized that it was phrase in a language I have had only brief experience with, and I was assuming your blog title was your personal name, when it could very likely mean "What's Happening Today" or "My Thoughts" or something. Good to know I can just call you Carme now! --(WT-en) Evan 09:16, 26 February 2007 (EST)

You have mail
Hi Evan,

Steve from the Gazette here. I just sent you an email and want to make sure it doesn't get lost in a spam folder somewhere.

Thanks.

Article history links
Hey there Evan, just noticing, when I do an edit comparison such as this that spans more than one edit it's only showing the last edit highlighted in red, where as it used to show everything (WT-en) - Cacahuate 23:57, 25 February 2007 (EST)

 * Yeah, I guess that's the new way that diffs are shown in MediaWiki. Is it important to change it to the old way? They're still highlighted with green background and yellow background, I think. --(WT-en) Evan 09:12, 26 February 2007 (EST)

 * I much preferred the old way... maybe I'm just not seeing it yet, but sometimes it seems to highlight in green/yellow somewhat randomly... or maybe if someone moves text to/from a section. But much easier to patrol when the changes are bolded in red... though if it's impossible or hugely difficult to change, I think I'll live :) (WT-en) - Cacahuate 03:49, 27 February 2007 (EST)

SXSW
When were you guys stopping over in Cincinnati? -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 16:37, 26 February 2007 (EST)

 * Mist! I forgot to talk to you about that. We bought a house (http://evan.prodromou.name/images/4690ruePontiac.jpg) and we're going to be closing on it at the end of March. So we decided to fly down to Austin instead of driving (so we could be back in time). So we won't be coming through Cincy on this trip. But we're going to do a roadtrip sometime this summer, and we'll probably swing through then. --(WT-en) Evan 17:02, 26 February 2007 (EST)

 * Also, could I ask that you restore the MediaWiki:Spamblacklist and MediaWiki:Spamwhitelist on pl and eo. I've asked Ricardo (Rmx) to restore the templates on pt.  I haven't bothered to go through the other wikis and check.

 * Bypassing the world's greatest town!? I don't know how you can live with yourself. 8)  Hit me up if you do stop by this summer. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 17:10, 26 February 2007 (EST)

Admin for Finnish Wikivoyage
fi:User:(WT-fi) Anchjo has volunteered to be an admin on fi-wikivoyage, and I think he'd be good for the job. He's an admin on the Finnish WP and has been contributing there for 4 years. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:10, 27 February 2007 (EST)

 * Hey, I just remembered that I'm a bureaucrat and can do this myself... I just don't know how? (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:18, 27 February 2007 (EST)

Mayday...
Hi Evan - I am a contributor in wikivoyage/it (Ub). I just logged in there, and I saw a vandal had pillaged the HP. No big deal, I could rollback, but then I saw that the page Milan was redirected to Siena... again no big deal? no : this time the history was deleted, and there is a permanent background text I cannot delete via rb. Can you help? First would be denying access to "Dead" and his sockpuppets (Probably Mooo Hay" and others) banning the IP for life, I would say. Well, you should know.... and, sorry, next time I will have my account in /en 81.208.31.217 16:28, 2 March 2007 (EST)

Licensing on AboutUs
Evan, thanks for helping us with our thinking on free content licensing. I wanted to let you know that we've posted our thoughts on licensing and are finally getting closer :-) (WT-en) Ray King 20:20, 4 March 2007 (EST)

bug in hCard microformat
FYI: Project:Listings (WT-en) Andy Mabbett 07:15, 7 March 2007 (EST)
 * "Nudge" (WT-en) Andy Mabbett 06:31, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

PRCVB
Did the CVB ever get back to you about having someone meet us? -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 23:36, 8 March 2007 (EST)
 * Also, will you flip Episteme's bit? -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 02:16, 9 March 2007 (EST)

 * PRCVB: not done yet. Episteme: done. --(WT-en) Evan 12:03, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Image proposal
Hope you're enjoying your outing!

Just wanted to point out a conversation to you that you might want to give feedback on... if agreed, is it possible to change the link in the toolbox to go straight to shared? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 22:32, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

Hindi MediaWiki file
I'm trying to start a hi:wikivoyage so I've already added it to expeditions. Do you have a translated MediaWiki file (Language.php) of the Hindi wikipedia. If you do, could you mail it to me? Thanks (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 08:44, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

2idi
Hi Evan, have tried to contact you through 2idi but was given an "invalid message id" response. The server doesn't accept your evan@wikivoyage.org address. Can you suggest another way for me to send a request to you? Thanks, Michael Haywood michael.haywood@sympatico.ca

 * My i-name is "=evan.prodromou". I got your email yesterday, I'll send you a response by email. --(WT-en) Evan 11:20, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Hindi wt
My new ID on the hi:wt is उपमन्यु|

(WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 06:49, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Admin for ca:
I've left you two messages on Shared about the election of an admin for ca:. If you happen to have one spare minute during your semi-vacation, please give the admin status as she's been nominated, voted and has accepted the job. -- (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 18:52, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

 * mea maxima culpa. I'm on the road, and I've had pretty shaky connectivity over the last weeks. --(WT-en) Evan 13:51, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

Hindi wt - Recentchanges
Why isn't the patrol recent changes patrol working on ? (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 03:04, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Done. --(WT-en) Evan 11:59, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

I want to change the sitename to विकिट्रैवल (the Devanagiri sp for wikivoyage). Which MediaWiki file do I need to edit? (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 06:44, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

 * I have to do that in the server configuration file, and I have a heck of a time writing in Devanagiri. I'll see what I can do, but it may have to wait until the weekend. --(WT-en) Evan 11:59, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

 * No prob. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) •

P.S. Please make Ravi and Sapphire admins, it is a pain since the others can't edit files with the MW namespace. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) •

 * Done. --(WT-en) Evan 11:59, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

+cacahuate (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) •

Patrol
Ola Evan, Numerous pages on the NL site cannot be marked as patrolled, leaving me with red exclamation marks o the recent changes page. Is this a common problem? If it isn't what can be done about it? Check i.e. (WT-en) 3wisemen 07:16, 25 March 2007 (EDT)}

 * Try . You should click the "diff" link from nl:Speciaal:Recentchanges to patrol. --(WT-en) Evan 10:13, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Looks different, but it does the trick! Thanx! {(WT-en) 3wisemen 10:17, 25 March 2007 (EDT)}

WikiSym 2007 -- October 21-23, Montreal, Canada.
WikiSym 2007 International Symposium on Wikis -- October 21-23, 2007 in Montreal, Canada

Evan, you may already know more about this than I do. I just heard about it on the OER Grapevine email list. It is happening in Montreal. Don't know any more about it myself. --(WT-en) Rogerhc 18:37, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

Shared admin
Hey Evan! I noticed that all admins should also be admins over on Shared, if so, can you up my status and then I'll help out with image deletions over there too... Thanks! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 22:24, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

Hindi
Can't seem to save my preferences over on Hindi, just resets everytime I hit save... tried also hitting reset instead to see if they were backwards, but no... – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 22:42, 26 March 2007 (EDT)

same here...(WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 06:10, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Yeah, that's a bummer, sorry. I'll see what I can do to fix it. --(WT-en) Evan 10:57, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

Yikes, another one, not sure what the problem is here, but I can't create pages over there... when I search for the article I want, all that comes up is this, which gives no link for creating the page. I'm on a mac with OS10.4.9... using Safari. Firefox doesn't support the Hindi script, so can't try that. Any thoughts? If you want to try it yourself, try creating संयुक्त राज्य अमेरिका (USA). I can create pages on Hindi Wikipedia just fine, btw, if that means anything – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 05:30, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

 * I was able to get around it by adding a link to the page I wanted to create to my user page, then clicking on the red link... not ideal, but working! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 06:10, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

title: User talk:EvanProdromou/Feb-Mar 2007