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Talk:Hangzhou

It would be good if a map of Hangzhou was provided.

I was going to externally link one, but then I read the below wikiTravel suggestion...here's the link if somebody wants to figure out how to insert it: http://hot.dahangzhou.com/top/map/

 * See Project:Mapmaking_Expedition for discussion of mapmaking.
 * See Project:External_links for why we might not want to link to external maps.

Link spam
I feel the Learn section was link spam -- it contained nothing but links to two schools. So I deleted it. --(WT-en) Rogerhc 15:04, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
 * What else would the Learn section be for, but to list university, schools or other locations where you can learn things in the area? Normally a little blurb describing the school is nice, but it doesn't always happen. The Big City template's description of that section is:
 * If there are opportunities for travellers to study in this city -- from language to cooking classes up to full university courses -- add that here.
 * I've restored (and formatted) the section for now because I don't think it was link spam. I'd also like to understand your opinion on these links a bit more so please don't feel like I am slighting you. -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 15:44, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

Removed restaurants
This edit removed a few restaurants with no explanation. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:07, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Jpatokal - My first edit on wikivoyage. I am sorry did not post explanations. All deleted restaurants have closed. Is this the place to add more restaurants and bars etc? I could put 30 or 50 more up on this page. What is a good number? (WT-en) Morehangzhou 01:37, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Any time you remove something, it's a good idea to explain why in the Summary field just above the "Save page" button. Simply typing "closed restaurants" is enough.  We don't want lists of 30-50 items, because that's just too much for travelers to choose from.  Instead pick the best or most popular ones in each category, or the ones that visitors would be most likely to enjoy. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 11:59, 3 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Noted. Thanks for advice. If you need anything specific to be done, let me know.(WT-en) Morehangzhou 03:08, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Jerry the taxi driver
Is this worthy of inclusion, even after rewording? Cabbies who speak English even on this level are after all pretty rare in China... (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:21, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

''I found maybe I'm first Hangzhou taxi driver at here. I search my English name use Google and found this page, it's my lucky day! you know, I'm only one taxi driver who can speak English and also have guide licence in Hangzhou, most of foreign companys in Hangzhou all like use my service, if you want know me more, please check my homepage: www.hangzhoutaxi.com.''

Unsure about this review of the Hangzhou zoo
I'm unsure whether we should be keeping this review of the Hangzhou zoo:

 * Hangzhou Zoo, (杭州动物园 Hángzhōu Dòngwùyuán). It has pandas and everything and is conveniently located just south of the lake, but it is not recommended to visit most zoos in China, as the animals are exploited and treated poorly (generally speaking). At least stay away from the dog exhibit. This zoo is definitely one of the worst ones in China. Besides a few animals which have good cages (mostly water-animals) it has terrible conditions for the panda, most bears and other larger animals like the elephants. Still, they made improvements compared to a few years ago, and it seems it's mostly the missing support of larger investments that seems to hinder further development in a better zoo. The entrance fee includes a circus-style animal show with tigers, lions, bears and elephants that is particularly entertaining for children (if a little depressing for adults).

Although the review is negative, (as it should be), if we don't recommend people visit this zoo, should we really have it listed in the first place? Thoughts? --14:31, 21 October 2008 (EDT)MarinaK.

Either put it into a "Don't" section, or leave it in. It is useful info after all.

 * we should just give the facts - let the traveller choose. not visiting doesn't necessarily improve conditions..  i've tweaked it a bit.  --(WT-en) Inas 01:30, 3 May 2009 (EDT)

My family visited the zoo yesterday, September 3, 2010 and we had a lovely time. The animal habitats are not perfect, but are they in any zoo anywhere? We found the meandering paths and environment a good activity for our three year old son, who loved the alligators and bears. The one caution I would mention is the central animal arena where they put on hourly shows with sad animals doing silly circus tricks. Other than that, the zoo was a nice experience and we would recommend if for families with kids.

A comment on the above
If I had'nt read the above I proberly would have brought my kids to the zoo. When the Zoo is'nt mentioned as "a place to go", I just thougt, it was too ordinery to be mentioned. The info can be useful in two ways. As an recommendation to stay away or be used as an appeal to visit, see the horrible conditions for yourself, and act on them.

Rikke (Dk)

Buy Section
I modified the Silk Market to reflect the actual name of the place you want to go to as well as the time. Couldn't find the times it was open until I actually got there...at 7pm :(. Also I included the Zhejiang International Hotel as a land mark for when your walking on the road and I found that taxi drivers can find that better. -- Panchovillados

Hotel touting
This is possibly the toutiest "Sleep" section I've seen anywhere in Wikivoyage. It will take a lot of work to detout it, and I wouldn't trust any of the listings with a 10-foot pole. Please help edit the section! Thanks so much, everyone. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 06:11, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

Hospitals
Some of them may have an interesting history, but why are they of interest to travellers? Is there much medical tourism to Hangzhou? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:59, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Saw this after I shortened the history of each. I think the only relevance of these listings is whether you can get treatment or not. Probably nothing else for the healthy visitor. Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:41, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

Bad eat listings
I removed the following for the mid-range eat section because they were not formatted and added little value. Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:43, 8 June 2014 (UTC)

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Mai zhou dongbei restaurant(脉舟东北风味店)special cuisine: mutton chop address:Wenhua st.;phone call:888507382

New deer restaurant(新白鹿餐厅) special cuisine:egg and duck, shrimp address:Longyou st.;Phone call:879220713、

Jiu mei restaurant(九妹辣子村）special cuisine:hot chicken,fish for three ways to deal with; address:Daguan st. Room 37;Phone call:880782774、

Guan jiang restaurant(冠江楼) special cuisine:Lanxi food;address:He fang st. Room 37Phone call:877857785、

Jiutou bird restaurant(九头鸟饭店)special cuisine:Hubei food;address:Jiaogong st.Phone call:875110576、

Guxiangzai(古香斋) special cuisine:mutton food Address: jingzhou st(number66 bus's final across)

Baolaina restaurant(宝来纳巴西烤肉) special cuisine:58 yuan per person;address:Wenhui st315;Phone call:85394888-3378/38088、

Old shengxian restaurant(老神仙面馆) special cuisine:Chinese cabbage,mother's screw,water fish,fish and mutton;address:fengqi st.phonecall:850651219、

Zhanghuli(张胡李）Address:Gaoying st.phone call:0571-87832330

Haining restaurant：（海宁阿盛煲）special cuisine: haining food;address:hedong st.Room 66;phone call:8513501310、

zhenyuantang(真缘堂（中山店）)special cuisine: six fish, hot rabbit,hot chicken;address:zhongshanzhong st,room number 106;phonecall:8702456011、

Xingyue reataurant(星悦小吃)special cuisine:chicken;address:youdian st.

Yueguang restaurant(明光小吃)special cuisine:oil and shrimp,screw,duck;address:meihua st,youshengguan ro.room number29 and 31

Location Updates
I used this article to help explore Hangzhou over the weekend so wanted to say thanks and give a little back so I've added all the places I found + some I have on my local map.

A couple of newby questions if you don't mind:
 * How do you leave comments about edits in the history
 * I accidentally made a load of edits without being signed in, is it possible to assign them to myself after the fact?

A short summary of my changes so far:
Mostly they are location placements on the dynamic map. I've tried to make some small edits to keep the sentences flowing.

I changed 'Kipple' to 'Peak that flew from Afar' as that's what the description and chinese characters seemed to suggest the original author was talking about.

I removed some duplicates for the Baochu Pagoda as well

+ I'll try and add a few more by the end of the week

EDIT - probably should keep new posts at the bottom, in keeping with the others —The preceding comment was added by AshA30 (talk • contribs)

 * Thanks for your edits! I was there for a couple of days last year and made some of the edits around the lake.
 * How do you leave comments about edits in the history - You make them in the 'Summary' text field directly under the 'Editing' text box
 * is it possible to assign them to myself after the fact? - No, although if you felt strongly about it then you can reverse the previous edits you made and make them again (assuming no-one else has also subsequently made edits) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

 * Indeed, thanks for adding to and updating the article. As Andrew just said, you can add comments about your edits in the Summary field right below the editing field. Comments are welcome, but optional.
 * Ps. please sign your comments on talk pages; it makes it easier for everyone to follow discussions. To do that, just type ~ (that's four tildes right after each other) at the end of your comment ϒpsilon (talk) 10:13, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the pointers all, I'm not too fussed about forgetting to login, I'll leave them as they are and just remember for next time. AshA30 (talk) 01:24, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Non-compliant redistribution?
www.travelwestlake.com and www.travelzhejiang.com mirror a lot of content from this article, as far as I can see without any attribution. MartinJacobson (talk) 01:35, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Concerned Wikivoyagers, please direct your comments and ideas to this thread. Best wishes, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Future attraction?
Curvaceous algae-covered towers proposed for Hangzhou Pashley (talk) 12:00, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Hanoi

Map
A map which shows where exactly hanoi is, would be great!
 * For anyone who wants to give making a map a go, its not that hard or time consuming.... For more information, see here. -- (WT-en) Tim 09:53, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

Tintin
It's been more than ten years since I've been to Hanoi but I can't believe that Tintin Cafe has disappeared! It used to be the center of the backpacker universe but doesn't even figure on wikivoyage. Is wiki missing something, or has Hanoi changed?--(WT-en) Wandering 11:40, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

Incorrectly labeled picture
The picture at the top right is not Ho Hoan Kiem (Hoan Kiem lake) it is a picture of Ho Bay Mau which, I'm guessing, was taken from the Nikk Hanoi Hotel (the island can be seen on the left hand side of the dark lake http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&ll=21.013068,105.847242&spn=0.009034,0.014462&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr. You have to scroll North slightly to make out the Nikko Hotel on the North side of the road bordering the lake). Note that at Ho Hoan Kiem (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&ll=21.028671,105.854173&spn=0.009033,0.014462&t=h&z=16&iwloc=addr) the island is near the top of the lake and would have been on the right hand side (if there were any buildings that tall at the top of Ho Hoan Kiem. Here's hoping they do not build any such buildings as this is the old quarter of Hanoi)

PS How do you change the photo's label? (Hence this long winded discussion note)

Update: No, that is not Ho Bay Mau either. That is Thu Le Lake behind the Daewoo Hotel as viewed from the elevator area on the back side of the the Daewoo hotel. I standing at that exact view as I write this message. Here's the map link: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hanoi,+vietnam&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=21.030639,105.810195&spn=0.002824,0.003782&z=18&iwloc=addr -- User:(WT-en) Ageitgey

An itinerary of sorts
I've moved this in from the article - not appropriate there, but could serve as the basis for a separate itinerary. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 00:26, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Hanoi to Hong Kong overland

From Gia Lam station get on a bus to Dong Deng for around 60,000vnd. They should drop you near the border and you'll only have to walk 200-300km to the Vietnamese passport control. The standard procedure requires you to throw your passport above the heads of the hoards of travelers through the hole in the office window and wait until you notice an official wandering about with your passport. Good luck. Once you're stamped you can walk the short distance into China and enter the marble tiled efficiency of Chinese immigration control. When they set you free you need to get to Pingxiang 15km away. Don't accept the first taxi tout dither around as you wander through the huge stone gate and see the motobike taxis, get a bidding war started and a taxi should only cost around 30rmb a motobike no more than 20rmb. From Pingxiang get the bus to Nanning, they are more regular than the trains, this will take about 2 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Lang Dong station. From Nanning you need to travel over night to Guangzhou. If you are happy with a sleeper bus Lang dong station is the right place to be. Bear in mind the journey by bus will take 10 to 11 hours and cost about 230rmb. If you want to catch a train, which may be cheaper depending on your level of endurance, get on the number 6 bus (2rmb) to the train station (huoche zhan) it takes about 20 to 30 mins. This is the better option for even if you can't get a train you can buy a bus ticket at the Lang Dong station ticket office on Chaoyang lu near the Yin He hotel, a 2minute walk from the train station, and this way you can see some more of Nanning before catching the No 6 back to the bus station(allow 50 mins). When in Guangzhou get yourself to Guangzhou east station, use the metro it's brand new, easy to use and will only cost you about 5rmb. Once there follow the signs for the Kowloon express and for 180rmb you'll be in hong Kong in less than 1 1/2 hours. You will arrive at Hong Hum station and it's just one stop on the MRT to get to Tsim sha tsui east where you can find all the budget accommodation in one of the two "mansions" on Nathan Rd.

 * I've merged it into Ho Chi Minh City to Shanghai overland. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:09, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Hotel Scams
I think now it's the scam descriptions (rather than the scams) that as a whole have gotten out of hand. Yes, travelers need to be wary of scams and touts, but I think most people are on the look-out anyway and have basic common sense. Moreover, positioning this scam article in a special sidebar and in such a prominent way on the Hanoi website gives the city a bad reputation. So many travelers I meet tell me that they are so afraid when coming to Hanoi, even though this is an incredibly safe and beautiful city. I don't disagree with the inclusion of a warning, but I think naming select hotels (arguably we could put all of them on the list - I doubt anyone is truly innocent who deals in the Vietnamese business community) and using polemical language may not be the way to go. Thoughts?

 * Agreed, it's way too long to be an infobox now. It should be stripped down into the essentials and moved into regular text in the Sleep section. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:49, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

I waa scammed at Hotel3B. Paid for breakfast, receptionist refused to give me a receipt. Was billed for it at check out. Extrenely unhelpful man. Told me 'all' the resturants were closed Tet evening. The one at La Siesta directly opposite was obviously open, as I pointed out, he said it was for hotel guests only - it isn't. He was very nasty in that underhand way, and stole my money! Several of the other staff weren't either helpful or friendly. Very over rated. Jaxy55 (talk) 19:56, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

1 Hang Be
Our policy for bad shops is to ignore them, not slag them. Can you rewrite in more general form?

 * Avoid shopping at 1 Hang Be|I was given 3, instead of 4, embroidery pieces that I had purchased. When I went back to the shop to enquire about the missing piece, the lady at the store smirked and claimed that the amount that I had paid was not enough for 4 pieces. She also said that the little girl who had attended to me had gone home. It was not true that I had not paid enough and it was untrue that she did not know what had happened because the girl had consulted her on the price and had also given her the money during our transaction. This lady was clearly the owner of the shop. I also told her that if she thought I should have paid her more, she should have told me so instead of giving me fewer pieces. When I offered to pay her a little more money, she demanded 100000 VND more. My discussion with her led nowhere even though a Vietnamese friend tried to mediate and we left the shop. Just a word of advice--always check your purchases before you pay for the items and before you leave any shop. And avoid dishonest scammers like the shop at 1 Hang Be.

Hotels in Splurge
I removed some of the listings that did not provide descriptions or addresses, and beefed up the content in the ones that did. --(WT-en) MarinaK 20:47, 17 March 2009 (EDT)MarinaK.

Excess hotels
I'm whittling down the amount of hotels in the article, with prejudice against entries with incomplete data, tout-ish language, and/or un-compelling descriptions. Feel free to make a case for any of these if necessary. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 20:32, 7 January 2010 (EST)

 *  A brand new hotel in the center of the Old Quarter. The Astoria Hotel has 25 rooms with fully modern equipment like a/c, sattelite TV, and free internet. Breakfast is included in the room rental price.

 *  Mini hotel in the center of the Old Quarter. Air conditioned, comfortable rooms with attached bathroom, satellite TV, fridge and free wifi as well as free internet computers in reception hall.

 * Hanoi Paradise Hotel, 01 Yen Thai St, Hoan Kiem, Hanoi, (84-4) 9286139. Recently opened, and offers the rare amenity of a heated indoor swimming pool.

 *  Located in Hanoi old quarter, near Hoan Kiem lake. Very friendly staff and atmosphere, ask for Flower if she is available, she speaks more than 3 languages and can help with anything. Best deals on double rooms! Very comfortable for the price, A/C in rooms but costs $2 extra to turn it on.

 * Hanoi Boutique Hotel is in the heart of The Old Quarter, just a few blocks from Hoan Kiem Lake, Water Puppet Theater and alongside a thriving outdoor market. Along Bat Su street (china bowls), you will find cafes, an award-winning spa, pharmacies and various shops and stores carrying clothing, handicrafts, and other amazing finds! The hotel offers a most comfortable and glamorous accommodation in The Old quarter. All rooms are wonderfully decorated and feature fantastic facilities such as hard-wood floors, in-room private computer with wireless internet access, cable flat screen LCD TV, DVD player, tea and coffee making facilities, hair-dryer and private bathrooms with shower cabin. With friendly and knowledgeable staff who go that extra mile to ensure your stay is the best possible, and able to arrange and book the best tours of Halong Bay, Sapa, Hue, Hoi An, Nha Trang, Mui Ne Beach and Ho Chi Minh City.

 * Hanoi Royal 2 Hotel 11 Hang Manh, Hoan Kiem, Tel +84 4 928 6479, Fax +84 4 824 6725. . A two star hotel located right at the centre of Hanoi. Prices start at USD $28.

 * Lucky Eden Hotel, 35 Quan Thanh, tel: +84 4 7341 249 [mailto:luckyedenhotel@gmail.com luckyedenhotel@gmail.com], is located near the Ho Chi Minh mausoleum, and close enough to most popular places in Hanoi. From cheap single rooms to deluxe rooms.

 * Thanh An Hotel at 46 Hang Ga Street offers rooms with attached bathroom after some haggling for 80000 dong. Owner speaks fluent French and decent English.

 * Win Hotel, 34 Hang Hanh St, Hoan Kiem, Hanoi" tel. +84(4) 38287371"[mailto:vnhnvn@gmail.com]. Very well received guest house, close to Hoan Kiem Lake with rates from USD 20 to USD 30, has gotten some positive reviews from travelers.

 * Wing Hotel, 23 Hang Non, Old Quarter, not far from Real Darling. The Wing Hotel has clean rooms, friendly and professional staff and a book exchange. Breakfast is available. Some rooms have balconies overlooking the street. A double can cost as low as 160,000 dong, although the standard price is 192,000.

 * Hanoi Heritage Hotel is in the center of Hanoi within walking distance to the Giang Vo International Exhibition Center. Hanoi Heritage Hotel is recognised as an international 3-star hotel with 68 rooms and suite.

 * Asian European cuisine in the restaurant. Sauna and massage services. 45 rooms with mini bar, LCD, A/C, hair dryers and coffee making.

 *  In the Old Quarter, the Pacific hotel is centrally located to all shopping destinations and key Hanoi attractions. Very friendly staff can help to arrange tours, tickets, etc in good English. Hot water, satellite TV, computers with internet in rooms, and a/c are among the perks in this hotel.

 * Rooms with timber and granite flooring in the Old Quarter.

 * "The stylish Queen of the Old Quarter" touts its friendliness and reliability.

 * Rising Dragon Hotel 61 Hang Be Street . Vietnamese and American managed, next to Hoan Kiem Lake, it has new facilities in a renovated historic building of the Old Quarter. Prices start at USD 25 (all taxes included, plus breakfast, internet, and wifi).

 * Sunshine Hotel, 42 Ma May Street . Clean rooms and friendly staff in the middle of the Old Quarter (around USD 30 incl. taxes & breakfast).

 *  Bright and spacious, Cozy lighting with dimmers,Bedroom & Living room LCD-TVs with satellite/Sub Sound System, Work desk with Computer & Internet, Terrace with plants, Views of Westlake villas with Great walks along the lake and a kids playroom. On sit restaurant 8AM to 11PM, Fun personal tour guides, Automobile/ motorbike rental and Spa available.

 *  3 Star luxury hotel in the Old Quarter. a business center, a restautant, Clean rooms and baths with good air-con, satellite TV, free internet WiFi and breakfast.

 * Sunway Hotel, 19 Pham Dinh Ho Street, Hai Ba Trung District. While it's a four star hotel, the 143 rooms in this hotel appear quite dated and lifeless. The food in the restaurant is reasonably good and they serve a breakfast buffet daily.

 * Well done GJ. This is something we should do a lot more of with some of the more unwieldy articles. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 21:19, 7 January 2010 (EST)

Little Hanoi Hostel/Hanoi Bed and Breakfast edit war
I would like to say at the outset that I have yet to visit Vietnam and have no stake in this edit war. However, until now, there had been no reason given for substituting the latter's listing for the former. We now, in the history finally have an explanation: "First-hand knowledge of hotel name change (to Little Hanoi) and shoddy service, replaced with real L.H." I of course have no knowledge of the quality of service at either establishment. However, if it's true that Hanoi Bed and Breakfast changed its name to Little Hanoi Hostel, they are apparently behind schedule in changing their website, which is still active and still giving their (former?) address, as it has been listed on Wikivoyage. Or is it that the Little Hanoi Hostel, at its current location, used to be called the Hanoi Bed and Breakfast, changed its name, and then a competitor - well, this is all confusing and requires more explanation. If the service is at the hostel/bed and breakfast is shoddy, instead of changing the listing, we should simply delete it, in keeping with Project:Avoid negative reviews. But I think we simply haven't gotten a full explanation yet. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:45, 29 May 2012 (EDT)

ATM
After a month in Vietnam (May and June 2015) I can safely say that almost every ATM gives 2 Mio VND with a fee of 20,000 to 40,000 VND for MasterCard and European Maestro cards. I only found two ATMs (one of ANZ and one of Commonwealth bank) which gave 7 and 5 Mio Dong. But even other ATMs of Anz were limited to 2 Mio VND. According to Jerry for 76 customs, a Aussie expat who is a motorbike mechanic, said that almost all bank changed to the 2 Mio VND limit. Is there anybody with different experience? Lennox mcdough (talk) 11:52, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

HSBC still seem to let us withdraw 5 million VND, although they're far from common. Not sure how much they charge, but I don't think they're particularly bad for a UK based Visa Debit card Hanoied (talk) 14:28, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 * If you haven't already done so, please add any information to the article as far as it is relevant/appropriate. Most future readers of the Hanoi guide probably aren't aware of this talk page. Thanks. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Airport Taxis
The section on airport taxis seems to be rather out of date. The fixed price taxis seem to have gone (at least I've not seen any evidence of them since March 2015), and the taxis should now just use the meter, from both the domestic and international terminals, although the price roughly ends up the same. Don't mind rewriting, but didn't want to go and rip a whole paragraph apart without giving someone a chance to disagree with me. Hanoied (talk) 15:11, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Please go ahead and put in any changes that seem in your experience to be accurate. Someone else can always edit further if they know anything different. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:45, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Lets build a district map
I note that Hanoi does not have a classing static map, one that shows the districts of the city similar to what you see on most big city Wikivoyage articles (e.g. Bangkok). I think a map will be really helpful for travellers and if we combine it with some basic descriptions of each region in a new section called 'Orientation' or 'Districts', it will be even more useful (don't worry though; I am not suggesting we create district articles for all the regions!). To get us started, I have gone to Wikipedia to do some research. It states there are 12 urban districts and 17 rural districts and these are all shown on the first map attached. For the purpose of Wikivoyage though, I am guessing we at a maximum only want to focus on the 12 urban districts. They are:
 * Ba Đình District
 * Bắc Từ Liêm District
 * Cầu Giấy District
 * Đống Đa District
 * Hai Bà Trưng District
 * Hà Đông District
 * Hoàn Kiếm District
 * Hoàng Mai District
 * Long Biên District
 * Nam Từ Liêm District
 * Tây Hồ District
 * Thanh Xuân District

With only the urban districts, the map would look something like the second one I have attached. Now, what are your initial thoughts? Should we be including all urban districts on our map? I spent quite a few months in Hanoi and I remember going to most the districts at least once so I would be for including them all. I note Bangkok has exactly 12 districts as well. Also, it's not like we are going to have to create district articles for all 12. What do you guys think? --Justvagabonding (talk) 18:36, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Only crickets... Okay, I will get started on a draft and re-post here when I have something. --Justvagabonding (talk) 16:03, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Hotel and Restaurant Listings
The hotel, and to a lesser extent restaurant listings are a bit of a mess.

I'm happy to group hotels by area, although I'm not sure whether they should first be listed by price, or first listed by area. The latter is okay if we're happy with lists of one or two hotels - I can think of perhaps one or two Splurge level hotels in the Old Quarter for example, but there are heaps of mid range ones. Does anyone have an opinion?

I'm not entirely confident about culling hotel listings. I can certainly check they still exist, but I have no real knowledge of any of these hotels and whether they're any good or not.

For restaurants, I'd be keen on splitting them into Vietnamese and International cuisine, or perhaps listing by area (although this suffers from similar problems to hotels - there's a fairly strong correlation between area, cuisine and price). I can think of several restaurants that I'd suggest in the mid and top-end above some of those listed, but I don't want to go ahead and add them until the structure is a bit neater. Again - is there a standard for this?

I could also add a few paragraphs about the local food in general (the more common local food, not snakes and dogs). Should this just go in the Eat section above lists of restaurants?

 * You are free to use whatever internal structure fits best. If you group hotels by price level first, then you don't need to subdivide the Splurge group at all if there's too few of them. Powers (talk) 22:13, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Banner
I really think we should be changing the banner for this article. While Hanoi is indeed a large and bustling city, I would say that if you want to experience a bustling, cosmopolitan city in Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh City is a much better choice. For Hanoi, it's more about the historical attractions. For instance, there are remnants of the old citadel, and much nicer temples than in Ho Chi Minh City up here. Therefore, I think a more appropriate banner would be of one of Hanoi's historical attractions, such as the Thang Long Citadel, Van Mieu, One-Pillar Pagoda or the Turtle Tower in Hoan Kiem Lake. The dog2 (talk) 20:54, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

 * Agree. I'd like something like a row of stone turtles at Van Mieu! I've got some pictures, just need to upload them... -- Vmenkov (talk) 05:38, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

 * That sounds like a good option to me. I'm looking forward to it. The dog2 (talk) 06:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

 * Is anything happening about this? The current banner is a bland anywheresville and just doesn't say "Hanoi". That's because it's an upper-storey view, whereas Hanoi's attractions are low rise, eg around Hoan Kiem. Those turtles with doctorates are a great suggestion, so long as there's no snag over copyright. Grahamsands (talk) 13:53, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

 * Unfortunately, I don't know how to make banners, but if someone knows how to do it, I agree that the turtle steeles at Van Mieu would make a great banner. The dog2 (talk) 23:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

Odd Hanoi news story
Hanoi publicizes sex workers’ hangouts Pashley (talk) 11:01, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Get around "By taxi" section
The last paragraph looks like an update from 2016, and it contradicts some of the earlier text. Could someone update and edit the entire section as needed with current information, as of fall (or as recently as possible), 2018? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Done. I only took the one ride, out to Gia Lam, and he was very decent. I haven't used the motorbike or cyclo taxis. Grahamsands (talk) 16:31, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks. At some point, I or someone else will work on the comma splices, but it's very readable. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:23, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Hanover

Name - Hannover or Hanover
This is just a dup of Hannover-- we need to pick one and redirect from the other-- better yet, just go wiht the English name and mention the German name in the article. See Project:Article naming conventions for more. (WT-en) Majnoona 14:24, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * I'd go with "Hannover" since there are Hanovers in America but no Hannover that I know of except in Germany. If someone writes "Hanover" in English I assume he is not talking about Hannover. -(WT-en) phma 14:32, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Uh... what has that got to do with the Project:article naming conventions? The English name for this city is "Hanover". If we need to disambiguate it, we use the same disambiguation technique as for any other city. I think this'd be at Hanover (Lower Saxony). --(WT-en) Evan 14:52, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * The CIA Factbook lists 'Hanover' as "Hannover" so I moved everything from Hanover to Hannover. Now, what I think is up for debate is wheter we follow the CIA Factbook all the time. It lists two German cities with the German spelling, but lists Hannover, Munich, and Cologne with the English spelling. I googled 'Hanover' and the first page says nothing about the German city, but is aknowledged when typed as "Hannover." (WT-en) Sapphire 22:27, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)

 * I am aware that the CIA Factbook often uses the foreign language names/spellings rather than the most common English spelling. I would not trust it as a reliable source for common English usage. Rather I would trust the British Crown, who are the House of Hanover, not Hannover, for the English spelling. The city name may be spelt with 2 n 's in German but only one in English. See http://www.answers.com/hanover for an example, or WikiPedia:Hanover. If Wikipedia uses one N then I think we should too. Also consider WikiPedia:Hanover (disambiguation) for a list of other places called Hanover. Hanover (Lower Saxony), with a redirect from Hannover sounds better to me, with Hanover being a disambiguation page. -- (WT-en) Huttite 00:59, 17 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Guide?
Well this article is coming along really nice! I think it's ready for guide status. Thoughts? (WT-en) Majnoona 11:46, 26 April 2006 (EDT)

While there is certainly a lot of valuable and correct information in this article, I'm absolutely not satisfied with other parts: 1.) It may be correct that the city has mostly been destroyed in 1943/1944, but there are other attractive parts of the town, which are still intact, with buildings from at least the 19th century. Furthermore, the S-Train system provides easy access to smaller cities in the vicinity (Celle and Hamelin for instance), showing originally ancient city centres. With a journey time of 45' from the central station they are "just around the corner" by international standards. 2.) The statement, that English-speaking people are hard to find, even in hospitals, is amazing and, to my humble opinion, simply wrong. 3.) Some parts of the article are a little arbitrary and could be more detailed. 4.) There is a number of minor mistakes in content (e.g. "Kröpcke" is not the entire shopping district but only a central place and an underground station) and language, like the wrong spelling of names.

If these points are widely accepted by the other contributors, I would make the corrections by myself. Only, I am quite new to the WIKI-system, and haven't yet got the hang of editing or changing articles. So it may take some time.

(e.g. I hadn't realized that the name of the author and the time are not added automatically. Sorry!) LJA, 23:18, 23 May 2006

 * Don't hesitate to correct anything that you know is incorrect, or you disagree with, and certainly don't hestiate to add more information. If people don't like your changes... they can start a discussion about it here, and change them back if they feel really strongly about it. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 19:17, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

 * Hi LJA, I wrote most of the content in the page, and would very much appreciate if you also contribute to make it more accurate & up to date. If you know much about Celle, I think you should build the article for it since it should stand for itself. I know nothing of Hamelin. About the english speaking people, what I wrote is based on my own experience living there (2001-2005). You should read carefully what I wrote -- MHH is still the best option to find a doctor, since for travellers, that will be the best place to get treatment without appointment. Other than that, going to just any doctor, non-German speaking people will already have difficulty dealing with the reception and the assistant of the physician (whom rarely speak english). I know that most of the doctors speak english, but MHH should be the best bet. It was also stated that most uni students do speak english, just to make it an easy tip on how to find an english-speaking person. Other than that, do contribute to make it better! Thanks for your comments! (WT-en) sixzilly 13:32, 6 June 2006 (EDT)

Destination of the month
After being so busy with work in the last weeks, I was totally surprise to see Hanover as the destination of the month for June 2006. I am not the only contributor there but still it feels rather personal... :) Thanks! (WT-en) sixzilly 14:36, 6 June 2006 (EDT)
 * Sounds like a nice place. 205.189.97.202 12:31, 24 June 2006 (EDT)

Alternative banner for this article?

In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 15:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I'd leave the current one, nothing special about this panorama and Maschsee Lake photo is very nice. Jjtkk (talk) 17:54, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I prefer the existing one, because the new panorama is a less quality picture IMO (hazy). Also Maschsee Lake is somehow typical for Hanover to me. --Danapit (talk) 10:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

"Not a typical European city"
"Hanover is not a typical European city."

Um - what is that supposed to mean? What is a "typical European city" in the minds of the people who wrote that sentence? One that has had the good fortune not to have been destroyed in the war? Or does a "typical European city" have to look like Rothenburg ob der Tauber?

What a silly thing to say. Many German and European cities were destroyed in the war, and that is part of what makes them typical. And many German and European cities don't fulfill the Disneyland cliché that overseas travelers may have in their minds. They are simply normal cities where normal people live. Which is exactly what makes them typical European cities. --217.239.12.96 16:20, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Your point is a valid one. The text has been adjusted. Hope the new phrasing will please you. Ibaman (talk) 17:00, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Hansland

My test page --- (WT-en) Hansm 19:25, 2003 Sep 6 (PDT)

Hi! I'm wondering what you are trying to work out here. If you're looking at the format/style to use for a country page, or how we are "weeding" the CIA info, make sure you;re up-to-date on the conversation happening on the Project:Country article template. Thanks! (WT-en) Majnoona

Playing around with scripting (WT-en) Hansm

 * Hi there! I'm just wondering if a test page should go in the main namespace. Shouldn't this page be renamed User:(WT-en) Hansm/Hansland or something? (WT-en) D.D. 14:02, 7 Sep 2003 (PDT)

 * Agreed re:test pages. This might be a bad thing to start (ie pretend places/test pages). Secondly, scripted changes are a pretty big deal since they effect so much content at once. I think you need to make sure everyone understands what you are doing and why. I'm not sure if I agree with creating Factbook pages, I think the 'weeding' works well. Pages such as Switzerland are currently using the subset of facts shown on the Project:Country article template.(WT-en) Majnoona

 * Sorry for doing my testing in the main namespace. I didn't realize the feature of personal namespaces. Maj, pls see Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import for further explanation und discussion. --- (WT-en) Hansm 04:33, 2003 Sep 8 (PDT)

 * You can play around with the Wiki markup on the Project:graffitti wall, and, yes, you should do your larger experimentation in sub-pages of your personal page. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:59, 8 Sep 2003 (PDT)

 * Also, Hans: I'm really, really uncomfortable with the thought of you running scripts against Wikivoyage. Please don't do it again. -- (WT-en) Evan 09:00, 8 Sep 2003 (PDT)

 * What's bad with scrips (except testings in the main namespace)? - How about my ideas in Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import? --- (WT-en) Hansm 09:28, 2003 Sep 8 (PDT)

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Talk:Haor Basin

This article contains terms that are not standard English (or at least do not exist in my dialect) and should be described or defined. I can work out what a haor is from contect, but haven't a clue about beels. (WT-en) Pashley 09:22, 15 December 2007 (EST)

Haor

 * A feature, not a place --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 10:04, 3 December 2007 (EST)
 * Strong Keep Since the problem seems to be with the title, it's been changed to the Haor basin, which is an 2.5 million hector area spanning over 7 districts in Bangladesh. The area is increasingly becoming popular as a tourist attraction and described by the Lonely Planets Travel Bangladesh Guide as one of the most spectacular sites in Bangladesh. The term Haor area or Bhati elaka is more often used to refer to the area than the Haor basin, but it would be more accurate at that. A mistaken title is not a reason to delete. It rather may be a reason for a move. (WT-en) Aditya Kabir 09:02, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * The name is not the reason I listed it for deletion; the problem is that it seems to be a large area and I can not see how this will fit into the Bangladesh hierarchy. A park template was used for the article, but other sources (including your excellent work on wikipedia) indicate that the whole area is not a single park. If the Haor can be a valid region within the Bangladesh hierarchy then by all means we should keep it, but then the template should be changed and the other Bangladesh articles should reflect it. As it stand now I would definitely recommend deletion or redirect or at a minimum a redirect to Sylhet Division --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 14:27, 4 December 2007 (EST)

 * Keep, but: To me this looks more like a travel topic or Itinerary article than a destination article. There seem to be resemblances (thematic more than geological) between this and Cenotes of the Yucatán, which we've decided is a valid Itinerary article.  If this one can be recast in that form, let it be.  If not, then merge and redirect to one of the jumping-off places, but I'd like to see an attempt at an Itinerary article first. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 15:35, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * Keep, but: either make it an itinerary or rework the hierarchy so it becomes a region under Bangladesh. (WT-en) Pashley 20:30, 4 December 2007 (EST)
 * An itinerary with a link to Sylhet Division? I don't see anything wrong with that. Style and organization issues can be sorted out, I hope, as long as you wonderful editors are there to help out. But, the destination is a exceptionally valid one. In fact, my wanderings in and around Bangladesh tells me that the Haor basin is one very much a "must see" in Bangladesh. Development of the article to a respectable status may take a little more time. (WT-en) Aditya Kabir 00:59, 7 December 2007 (EST)

 * Redirect to Sylhet Division and mention what haors are there. They're spread over a large area, and aren't really a necessary subdivision of Sylhet, which IMO doesn't need further subdividing at all. I think it only makes sense as an itinerary if you're guiding people along to a few notable ones... I don't see why a paragraph on the Sylhet Division page describing what haors are wouldn't suffice... and if it really needs further description, then maybe break it off into a travel topic – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 21:34, 8 December 2007 (EST)

 * Keep as it is - During my recent visit to Bangladesh, the Haor region was as much a destination as the Himalayas or Scottish Highlands were on other occasions, and there was so little tourist information about it either on the web or in print. The presence or absence of separate location-specific pages such as Loch Ness, Fort William or Glencoe does not make the page on Scottish Highlands superfluous. In future, I would be happy to see people add location specific pages on say Tanguar haor or Shanir haor. Please don't delete the page. It is a beautiful watery kingdom and I say that after visiting such places as Venice and Lake District. I have already added some photographs and shall try to develop the page properly. - (WT-en) P.K.Niyogi 08:06, 9 December 2007 (EST)

 * Keeping as it is does not work. We have a geographical hierarchy; destination articles need to fit into that and this one currently does not. Making it a subdivision under Sylhet Division would solve that, but I'm not sure it is the best solution. I don't think it is a travel topic subject either. Deleting it would be silly; there's some good info for travellers that we of course want to keep. Moving that info into Sylhet Division probably does not work either; there's too much here to fit well. Make it an itinerary with links from Bangladesh and Sylhet Division. (WT-en) Pashley 22:59, 17 December 2007 (EST)

So the decision was to keep this, but there is a strong consensus (stronger than the consensus to keep the article at all) that it should be re-cast as an Itinerary or Topic article, probably the former. I've installed the appropriate banners at the beginning of the article; now let's make it fit. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 12:43, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Delete?
This was meant to be recast as an itinerary, but the work hasn't been put in. The outlineitinerary template on the page says it will be deleted if no edits are made for a year from Aug. 24, 2010, and it has long passed. So, do we just delete it just like that? Does it go back to the VfD table yet again? What happens? (WT-en) texugo 10:06, 31 October 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Harbin

I plan to go to Harbin from Malaysia in December 2006 for one week. How to do? Need more details, flight, best time visit, accomodation, food and weather etc

 * Please plunge forward and let us know! (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:40, 26 March 2006 (EST)

How do I go about adding maps and pictures to this page?

 * Pictures — Project:How to add a picture
 * Maps — Project:How to draw a map
 * (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:33, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks! I'll be putting some maps up this weekend when I get some time. I plan on adding a section on Harbin's russian buildings and more on the local cuisine. Any other suggestions of how to make this a better page?

 * The content is great, but the formatting could use a little fine tuning. The easiest way to standardize everything is to use the listing templates below:

* Held every two years in July(Next will be in 2008), this festival is organized by the city and brings in famous Chinese bands for free concerts held in the city square. In 2006 for the "year of Russia" there were various Russian groups in attendance and a concert that featured over 1,000 pianists playing at once.

 * Note that you can put the Chinese script into the "alt" tag. (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:10, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Thanks Jpatokal, I will use the formatting from now on, when I first started editing the page I didn't know about it, so I will go back eventually and make the changes. Thanks for the heads up on the "alt" tag (WT-en) Venture160

 * No worries, the formatting tages are a new feature and not documented or used as much as they should be. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:16, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

Harbin Hot Springs
There's also a well-known Harbin Hot Springs in Middletown, California. I'm not sure if this needs a disambig, but I know people might go looking for "Harbin" and end up here. Maybe an editor of this article can think of what do do about this.--(WT-en) justfred 12:21, 25 October 2006 (EDT)

Advertisement vs traveler info
The food listing for "Modern Ice Lolly" seems more like an advertisement for this specific place than a geniune review and helpful traveler information for me. What do you think? Should this entry be made more "neutral"? Lennartbj (talk) 05:09, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree -- it sounds like touting. Please go ahead and edit it as you see fit. Ground Zero (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Harbor Country

Cities?
I have been looking at this further, and think I may have made a mistake in creating separate articles for each community within Harbor Country, since the population even during the summer seems like it would be less than 10,000? I hate to make this judgment alone, since I don't know the area personally, but if no one else comments, I'll eventually do this. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 12:52, 15 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Haridwar

har ki paudi? it should be spelled like

Actually its Hari Ki Pauri, but due to different perceptions its now spelled as Har Ki Pauri

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Talk:Harney County

Naming
Should this article be named Harney or Harney County?

Mentoring advice from ADAGL241
Sorry this is so late. I, along witht the rest of the class, was not paying attenttion to the deadlines. So I hope this helps. Also, students get to evaluate how much they are worth so I hope you use it and give me full points. I think you had one of the most extensive pages in the class.This is Gabe and I almost did the same thing but you beat me to it. Good job-- I'm assuming this is Casey

There needs to be a bit of editiing in places like the Get Around section, EX: Most of Harney County is accessible by highway, although some of it requires a four wheel drive vehicle though. I understand it is the rough cut but these things can often slip past. This is mostly just little stuff anyway. It may help to clarfy the page if you list your links below the paragraphs with detailed descriptions of what they are. The Wiki travel page has the possibility of being accessed by people not as familiar with computers as the people in this class or even at this college. themore spelled out this stuff can be the better. The athletics section could use a little clarification. Not that it needs that much more info, just that it would be helpful to have a more clear title that is closer to the information that section holds. You only talk about a couple sports and a few years of school. Maybe you could call it highschool athletics. I myself would love to have a map or two showing me how to get to the places you describe in eat and drink. Specifics are always good. I hope you get the grade you are looking for and I hope this helps. Take it easy

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Talk:Harper (Texas)

Is this a nice place to visit? --(WT-en) Lone.guner 18:07, 29 January 2008 (EST)
 * Not much to see in Harper. Try Fredericksburg or Kerrville instead. (WT-en) Jordanmills 11:13, 7 April 2008 (EDT)

Does this town really need its own article???
I'm just asking in good faith... I'm sure it's a pleasant enough town, but I've looked online and am struggling to find much about it (besides a historical marker and a few basic restaurants, no mentions of even a place to sleep). If there's not really enough content to fill this article or a reason for visitors to come here (and someone please correct me if I'm wrong), then there might not be justification for having its own page quite yet. Unless anyone argues otherwise, I'll nominate for deletion in a week or so. (WT-en) Army of me 00:13, 20 May 2009 (EDT)

 * I think the redirection is appropriate (no need to delete). And yeah, I can't find any accommodations there either, so it looks to be a non-article.  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:49, 21 July 2009 (EDT)

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Talk:Harpers Ferry

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Hmm, the tourist lit and my notes have it as "Harpers Ferry" sans ', but I didnt actually get a look at the town sign... anyone know? I'll ask google of course... (WT-en) Majnoona 14:42, 26 March 2006 (EST)
 * Looks like it's without... (WT-en) Majnoona 14:44, 26 March 2006 (EST)

 * I just deleted the redirect that I set up for Harpers Ferry, so you should be able to move this page now. -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:48, 26 March 2006 (EST)
 * Thanks! I'll try to confirm names before I start next time... (WT-en) Majnoona 14:52, 26 March 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Harrisburg

Expand
I am cleaning up and expanding this article. 148.134.37.1 15:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)

 * Nice work so far! If you're going to stick around, please consider registering an account!  You don't have to, but it has certain advantages.  =)  (WT-en) LtPowers 11:05, 20 February 2009 (EST)

I have done some major updates. Question -- why is Harrisburg included in "Alleghenies" section? It is not even in the color-shaded area that region defines on the main Pennsylvania map. I am thinking it should be moved to "Pennsylvania Dutch Country" where it actually resides. (WT-en) Danwxman 16:13, 4 March 2009 (EST)
 * Yes, the Pennsylvania regions need some cleanup; we probably missed several articles when we defined the regional divisions last year. The state was a huge mess before that, and there are still some problems remaining; please see Talk:Pennsylvania for details.  (WT-en) LtPowers 10:21, 5 March 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Hartford

Should I add neighborhoods, or is there simply not enough info now? I mean, if New Haven gets a great article, so should Hartford. 64.252.113.127 07:48, 19 December 2011 (EST)
 * You can list the neighborhoods of Hartford, but please don't create separate articles for them. There's hardly any content to put in them right now.  Our focus for the time being should be on getting this article to have enough information that splitting into districts becomes necessary.  (WT-en) LtPowers 20:46, 19 December 2011 (EST)

Learn section, moved from article
We aren't supposed to have "Learn" listings except for institutions that have courses of about 2 weeks or less. However, some of these listings, such as University of Connecticut School of Law, might be properly listed in the "See" section:

Learn

 * Trinity College, 300 Summit Street, . Hartford's small ivy- consistently ranked as one of the best liberal arts colleges in the country. The college was founded in 1823 making it one of the oldest in the country. Trinity's 100 acre campus is in the Frog Hollow neighborhood and includes some of the most historic buildings in the city.

 * University of Connecticut School of Law, 45 Elizabeth Street, . One of the nation's best public law schools is in the city's West End. The campus is also listed on the National Register of Historic Sites.

 * University of Connecticut School of Business Graduate Learning Center, 100 Constitution Plaza, . State of the art facility that opened downtown in 2004.

 * Capital Community College, 950 Main Street, . Located downtown in the restored G. Fox & Company department store building.

 * Rensselaer At Hartford, 275 Windsor Street, ..

 * The Connecticut State Library, 231 Capital Avenue, . Located in the State Supreme Court building, along with the Connecticut State Museum.

 * University of Hartford, 200 Bloomfield Avenue, West Hartford, . Private university with one of the best music schools in the country.

 * St Joseph's College, 1678 Asylum Avenue, West Hartford, . Women's college founded back in 1932 by the Sisters of Mercy that is on a scenic 84 acre campus.

 * Manchester Community College, 161 Hillstown Road, Manchester. . Largest Community college in the state.

 * Porter and Chester Institute, 30 Waterchase Drive, Rocky Hill . PCI is less than 10 miles South of Hartford and focuses on learning-by-doing.

 * Central Connecticut State University, 1615 Stanley Street, New Britain, . Part of the Connecticut State University system located in the small city of New Britain about 10 miles southwest of Hartford. Founded in 1849 the university excels in educational excellence and Division I Sports.

 * Goodwin College, 475 Burnside Avenue, East Hartford, . Located minutes from downtown, just over the Connecticut River.

 * Tunxis Community College, 27 Scott Swamp Road, Farmington, . Located about 20 minutes southwest of Hartford the college is home to about 7,000 full and part time students.

 * Hartford Seminary, 77 Sherman Street, Hartford, . Located in the West End neighborhood, Hartford Seminary is a nondenominational graduate theological college notable for its programs on interfaith relations and Islamic Studies. It has academic tracks with an MA and PhD program as well as preparatory programs in congregational leadership.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:32, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

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 * Replaced; also added image of state capitol. There are too few images on this page; if anyone reading is a good photographer, please take some attractive or interesting photos of Hartford and upload them to Wikimedia Commons. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:12, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Zoom in map?
I think it's a much better idea to zoom in so that individual attractions within the city limits are visible and the airport is not, but I see no zoom level on the map, so I don't know how to set a new default zoom level. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:05, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport

VFD Discussion
Airport articles are discouraged, and although ATL is busy, it's largely a transfer airport and not exceptionally complex or isolated -- doesn't really fit into the exceptions, and the useful bits from the article could easily transfer into Atlanta without overburdening it.

 * Merge and delete. — (WT-en) D. Guillaime 20:37, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Seems like a transfer airport is a better candidate for a standalone article, because the majority of passengers using it don't care about Atlanta and just want to know how to get around the airport. (WT-en) LtPowers 22:55, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Merge and delete according to policy at exceptions (this clearly isn't one).--(WT-en) Burmesedays 03:24, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * How do you figure it isn't an exception? The example exceptions are Kansai and Heathrow, both of which are smaller airports than Atlanta in terms of land area, number of passengers moved, number of flights, and number of destinations. —(WT-en) BigPeteB 09:44, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * I should have been more specific perhaps. My memories of Atlanta are that it is not especially complex or interesting, and as it handles relatively few international flights, has only run-of-the-mill shopping and dining options. Kansai and Heathrow are the direct opposite of those factors. The article bears that out by not being very long, and could easily be merged into Atlanta. Heathrow and Kansai by contrast would seriously over-burden their respective city articles. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:28, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Okay, now I understand your point. In that case (and it's easier to see this in hindsight than when I started the article) I agree that there's really not much info in spite of it being such a large airport, and it could easily be merged. I'm happy to do that sometime next week after I get back from a trip. —(WT-en) BigPeteB 11:27, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Merge and delete - I agree with what Dguillaime said: "not exceptionally complex or isolated" = "doesn't really fit into the exceptions". (WT-en) texugo 09:58, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Merge and redirect. I don't see any reason why this shouldn't be a redirect, but the arguments for merging seem persuasive. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:32, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Actually, I meant merge and re-direct also. That creates an easy search term which our crappy search engine will recognise. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:51, 28 July 2011 (EDT)

Result: Merge. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:28, 13 August 2011 (EDT)

Free WiFi
Soon, according to USA Today. Pashley (talk) 01:24, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

Article status
We don't seem to have an official definition of what an airport article needs to do to be usable, so let me just ask the stupid question: Is it usable? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Feedback re:FTT
I definitely support the article's FTT nomination, but have two small ideas for improvement:

 * 1) The Plane Train seems like it would be a useful way of getting to the international terminal by public transport, yet its only mentions are in the Get around section, with only an unspecified "shuttle" being stated to transport international passengers to and from the MARTA station. Is the Plane Train not a viable option for this journey?
 * 2) What about places to eat and drink inside the international terminal?

Other than that, looks good. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Hmm... Airport articles don't usually have a separate section for getting to the airport. I guess it's assumed that these articles are for visitors not locals, and/or that readers can take the "Ground transportation" info for leaving the airport and figure out how to do it in reverse. Maybe some clearer info for how to get [back] to the airport would be helpful, but you'd have to figure out where to put it; that might be a question to raise at wv:Airport article template (although it already seems clear from that page that it belongs under "Ground transportation").
 * I was briefly confused about what you meant by "unspecified 'shuttle'", but now I see the problem: brief directions are given first under "Flights" before details about getting to/from the airport are addressed later in "Ground transportation".
 * To answer your specific question: the Plane Train is inside the secure area, so that limits its usefulness for getting in or out:
 * If you arrive on an international flight, then as with any US airport you have to follow a one-way path which will either make you exit into the International Terminal, or you can re-enter security, but if this is your final destination then you can't do that. So for arriving international passengers, the Plane Train isn't an option to leave the airport, and you must take the shuttle if you want to e.g. go to the MARTA station.
 * The same is true for departing on an international flight. If you have to go to the International Terminal to get your ticket or check your bags, then you don't yet have the ticket that would let you into security to get to the Plane Train in the first place. (Or you have a ticket but have a bag you're going to check. So what, you would go through security once with a bag that might not make it past security anyway, cross the airport, leave security to go check your bag, and then go through security again? It's feasible but very silly, and it would be faster and easier to take the shuttle.)
 * That said, if you were flying internationally on Delta, for example, then you can get your ticket, check your bag, and pass security all at the Domestic Terminal and go directly to your gate; there's no need to go to the International Terminal at all (although your flight probably leaves from Concourses E or F, which are respectively next to and attached to the International Terminal). That's actually not explained correctly in the article right now.
 * Maybe it's not clear enough in the article that the International Terminal is strictly the portion that's outside the secure area for ticketing and baggage claim; gates for international flights are at Concourses E and F. Likewise, maybe it's not clear that the Plane Train is strictly inside the secure area.
 * As for restaurants, I see why the text may be confusing. Concourse F and International Terminal are the same building, the difference being that International Terminal is everything outside the secure zone, and Concourse F is everything inside. So yes, in the International Terminal the only two eateries are Sweet Auburn Market and Starbucks, but as written it sounds like there might be other places in the International Terminal inside the secure zone, which isn't a thing; that would be Concourse F. --Bigpeteb (talk) 19:32, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Thank you for that good, thorough answer. Looks like some of that would be helpful if it were in the article.

So how much time do passengers typically spend inside the international terminal? Because if it's hours, then two eateries - for an airport of this size - is both unusual and inconvenient. Should we be more explicit in warning readers of that, so they make time to visit one of the Concourses before going through security? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:42, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you still have it backwards. The terminology is different here; "terminals" are before security, and "concourses" are after security.
 * The only thing in the International Terminal is ticketing and baggage claim. If you're a departing passenger, you would only be there long enough to check in and go through security; then you have access to the 100+ restaurants in the 7 concourses where the gates are. If you're an arriving passenger, you would collect your baggage and then leave, yes? And if you're making an international connection, then after clearing immigration and customs, you would get checked in for your next flight, enter security, and again have access to the majority of the airport.
 * The only other reason to spend any time in the International Terminal instead of going through security would be if you're spending time saying goodbye to people who aren't coming with you. In that case, yes, International Terminal has paltry options compared to Domestic Terminal. That could be spelled out more clearly, but otherwise it doesn't seem at all unusual that there isn't much to eat, drink, buy, or do in the non-secure part of the airport. --Bigpeteb (talk) 21:14, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Map
I find the current dynamic map visually confusing—it doesn't look the way I expect an airport map to look. I expect a map of an airport to look something like this, with terminals that are visually clear and stand out in the image. Is there any way we can create a static map for this article, or at least change the dynamic map to show the shapes of the terminals like the dynamic map at O'Hare International Airport does? —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Current policy (which I don't fully agree with) is that an article should have either a static map, or a dynamic map, but never both. I find this inconvenient, since until a couple months ago this article already had a static map which was labeled to show only a few important elements, and rotated to fit better in a vertical orientation. Nevertheless, current policy dictates that we can't have both; other editors do enforce that.
 * I'm sure we could do something with map shapes to highlight each of the terminals and concourses. It's made slightly more complicated by the fact that the terminals (Domestic and International) are part of the same building as concourses (T and F, respectively).
 * However, I wonder if it's really necessary. ATL's layout isn't the same as many other large airports. Comparing it to your example of O'Hare, at ATL the only thing you need to know for check-in is whether your airline's checkin desks are in the Domestic Terminal or International Terminal, which should be fairly obvious by the names. All the desks are right next to each other, and then there's only one way through security at either end. Your flight could be assigned to literally any gate in the entire airport, and it doesn't matter because you get to every terminal full of gates the same way, and it never takes more than about 10 minutes, maybe 15 at the most.
 * Granted, I lived in Atlanta for more than 15 years so of course it seems easy to me, but I can tell people struggle with this problem just based on the questions they ask. I could make an FAQ based on the things I hear people ask, because they keep thinking the specifics of which airline or gate or flight they're on matters, and it generally doesn't at this airport.
 * "Which terminal do I go to to check in? It said online that my flight's at gate D13."
 * If you're flying a U.S. airline, go to the Domestic Terminal. If you're flying a foreign airline, go to the International Terminal. If you're flying Delta, go to whichever one is easier for you to get to. Forget the gate; it doesn't matter at this point. Only the simplest and most obvious fact about your airline (domestic or international) matters for where you need to go.
 * "I've checked in and dropped my bags, now which security do I go to for gate D13?"
 * Any of them. They all take you to the same place: the entire airport. International Terminal only has one anyway. Domestic Terminal has three but they exit right next to each other, so it still doesn't matter except for the wait times.
 * "I got through security. My flight is at gate D13. How do I get there?"
 * The same way you get to any gate in the entire airport: Go downstairs, take the train to the correct terminal, go upstairs into your terminal, and walk to your gate. There are 192 gates at this airport and that answer is correct for every single one of them.
 * "I arrived at gate D13 on Xyz Airways. Where do I go for baggage claim?"
 * If it was a domestic flight, go to Domestic Terminal. If it was an international flight, you'll be directed through customs and immigration, and that's where your baggage will be.
 * (Like, seriously, people, what's so hard about it? The terminals are named "Domestic" and "International". There are signs that say "security for all gates". The concourses are all in a line, A through F (with T being the exception). The train goes in a straight line, shows you the layout, and tells you where you are at every stop.)
 * Now that you've got me thinking about it, I think the old static map would be much more useful than the one currently in the "Get around" section. But if I had to choose between a static map or a dynamic map, I think I'd rather have the dynamic map. Having a color-coded map to highlight the layout of the terminals is not very helpful here. Having pins to show where all the interesting shops and restaurants are is useful, and is something that's completely infeasible on a static map. --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:52, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

 * Every airport is different, so I think no airport article is complete without a map clearly showing the layout of the terminals. It might not need to be color-coded in this case. An airport with a straightforward layout might benefit even more from a map, because it would reassure travelers that there are no complications and they don't need to ask the questions whose answers seem so obvious to a local like you. As far as I can remember I've never been to a major airport where all the concourses were lined up in a straight line like ATL, so I don't think I would find the layout particularly intuitive.
 * If we can use mapshapes to do it in a clear way, that would be fine. If not, I think this article would be an appropriate exception to the general "no double maps" policy, because the two maps give different information: the static map gives the layout of the terminals, whereas the dynamic map gives the locations of the hotels.
 * Does anyone object to making an exception and allowing both maps in this article? —Granger (talk · contribs) 22:03, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Seeing no objections, I've added the extra map. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:41, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Dynamic map bug on Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport
Could someone help debug Hartsfield–Jackson Atlanta International Airport? The dynamic map appears to load briefly, but then gets replaced by a white screen with just a "6" marker in the center. However, if you click on a marker in the article, the full-screen pop-up map works perfectly. I don't see any JavaScript errors, and I have no idea what else could be going wrong. --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:13, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

 * ✅. Looks like someone forgot the "zoom=" parameter. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:35, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I've been staring at that for ages and couldn't figure out what was wrong. It didn't even occur to me that "zoom" has to be a named parameter. --Bigpeteb (talk) 21:28, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that the default behaviour of mapframe has recently changed. I saw something similar with Ben Nevis, which had mapframe added when it only had one marker. Adding other markers sorted it out. Previously mapframe had a default zoom which gave a map around 2 miles wide, now it needs zoom to be specified, or for there to be several markers. AlasdairW (talk) 23:20, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, this was my mistake - I initially thought the train-line mapshapes might have been behind the map's misbehavior, and after realizing it was something else, I forgot to reinstate them. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 01:08, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I agree with AlasdairW. Something in the dynamic map changed and zoom needs to be specified. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:30, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Actually, there was another error relating to the mapshapes, which Andree.sk fixed. For some reason, using Template:Mapshapes for the Plane Train was causing a blank line to be inserted (while at the same time not drawing anything, since there's apparently some thing missing in either WD or OSM). Changing it to Template:Mapshape and specifying drawing parameters not only makes it draw correctly, but fixes the blank line. --Bigpeteb (talk) 17:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * the problem was that mapshapes only shows "networks", not single lines. In other words, the wikidata entry has to have "has part" subentries, which are then linked to the actualy OSM relations (lines). Perhaps I could extend mapshapes to handle this case as well, but I'm not sure it's a good design - convince me :-))) -- andree.sk (talk) 07:59, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, simply from an editor's perspective, it seems... unfriendly. Why should a WV editor have to know or care what the structure of the Wikidata entry is in order to make it show up correctly on a map? Or, to put it another way, what would be the downside in having one template that handles both things (other than it being more complex to implement the template)?
 * Right now, it seems like both templates have minor limitations compared to each other. Mapshapes can't specify type=geomask or geoshape, so you couldn't use it to, say, show the 5 boroughs of NYC from a single Wikidata entry. Mapshape isn't perfect, either: it doesn't currently default to using the title from the linked Wikidata entry.
 * I don't suppose I can argue "but what about when the data changes, like a second rail line opens" because at that point we ought to be updating the text of the page anyway. Still, just to make things easier for editors, it would be nice if they didn't have to bumble around to figure out which template to use. Or if they do have to, that ought to be documented better, because I had no idea that was the case. I'm a programmer by day, so I'm no slouch, but in this case I just mimicked what other pages do and used Mapshapes without giving it a second thought. Unlike templates that generate text, where you can look at the result and have a decent guess at what you did wrong, with these map templates the result is often that you get nothing at all, and no obvious way to debug it. --Bigpeteb (talk) 16:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Nagasaki had the same problem, I fixed it by specifying a zoom. How about either making the map use a default zoom if none is specified, or fix all occurrences? Thanks! :-) Syced (talk) 06:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Star nomination
Although I'm biased (as I wrote most of the article and its listings) I think that of all our airport articles this one is the closest to being star quality. As the busiest airport in the world, I think it would be very fitting if we could make it our first star-quality airport article. I've put a lot of work into it, but I'm at a point where it could use some more eyes (and maybe more hands) to identify what remains to get this up to star quality, which I hope will not be very much. --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:48, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Support This guide is incredibly in depth. SpartanFishy (talk) 16:47, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Support. This is a well-written article with many of the features of our other star articles. I think this is a great star article standard with which to compare our other airport articles, and I can't see that much more could be added or changed to make it any better than it is. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 15:48, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - This is nearly there, with just a couple of issues. I don't really understand why Do is at the bottom of the page; wouldn't it make more sense to go as a subheading under Wait, or else in a separate section immediately following the same? It's also not clear whether those events are open to the general public, or whether you have to be an outbound passenger flying on that day in order to attend them. One final thing, I'd like to see a few more photos if possible. Otherwise, looking great. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * In case you haven't seen the above.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:39, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I indeed hadn't seen it. I'm pretty sure this is the only Airport article with a Do section, so there's really no standard for where to put it. I put it at the end since the only things listed are events that take place infrequently (either monthly or annually), on the basis that stuff travellers are likely to need and be able to do should take precedence. I don't object to moving it up or making it a subsection of Wait. I think for one of the events you would need to be a passenger that day; I'll add that to the description. --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I follow your logic, but since every other class of article positions 'Do' in roughly the same part of the article, I think it would make more sense from a reader's perspective to do the same here. If the 'Do' section were already very long, the worries about it interrupting the flow would be greater, but since it's only three listings, it should be alright. Let me know with a ping when you're done (no rush), and I'll be delighted to support the nomination.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Already done. --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Support. It would still be nice to see a couple more photos, but that's hardly a deal breaker.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:37, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment - I hate to admit it, but I'm surprised to see so much support. When I nominated it, I actually thought it fell a bit short, and was hoping other people would call out some issues or help address them. A number of restaurants have no description whatsoever. Most of them have no other details either, particularly hours, although that's perhaps more forgivable. There are a few duplicate listings between "Coffee" and "Restaurants", which I'm not sure how to deal with. Star status has always seemed like an extremely high bar to meet, and I don't want to set a precedent of being lax on airport articles just because researching them is more difficult. --Bigpeteb (talk) 19:18, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support - A little bit more images would be nice but otherwise good for a star. TravelAroundOz (talk) 04:28, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I think we've reached a consensus here of support. Anyone else agrees to pass the article? SHB2000 (talk) - The year of the 2000 Sydney Olympics 04:48, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem is that of the four support votes, two come from relatively new contributors who may be relatively less well versed on the ins and outs of what makes a good Star article. ATL is certainly a high-quality article (it's a previous Featured Travel Topic IIRC) and may well be at Star status, but we need the opinion of more users who do have that experience. I will have a look when I can. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 05:01, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * But considering we have no opposes, even from the two not new editors. SHB2000 (talk) - The year of the 2000 Sydney Olympics 05:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Consensus is not unanimity, nor is it created without participation. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 06:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * It usually takes at least weeks if not months to come to consensus on giving an article a star. The article in question should be exemplary in all aspects of coverage, style, illustrations and readability, among other things. Star consideration threads aren't normal threads that can or should be pushed through with only a few participants. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:16, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If it helps, then I will oppose it... and I'm the one who nominated it in the first place! As I said in the nomination, I think it's one of our best airport articles, but I don't think it meets the high standard of being the best it can possibly be. I was hoping some of the more experienced editors would chime in to point out issues that still need to be fixed, and could maybe pitch in on things like finding more/better pictures which isn't something I've ever worked on. --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * If it's the pictures lacking (which I'd also say), I don't have any pics with me as I've never been there. But I will look onto flickr for better images. SHB2000 (talk)  10:25, 16 March 2021 (UTC)


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Talk:Harwich (England)

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Under sleep, why should you not stay at the camping site? 109.156.71.68 20:12, 12 July 2012 (EDT).

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First copyedit removals
''I removed the following opinion. -- (WT-en) Huttite 00:41, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)''

Given its importance as a historical landmark, a potential site for tourism, and above all, a home to 5000 people, it would be a shame to see Hasankeyf disappear.

The following are intersting research links -- (WT-en) Huttite 00:41, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * http://www.bethsuryoyo.com/currentevents/HasanKeyf/HKPage1.html *http://www.chris-kutschera.com/A/Hasankeyf.htm

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Talk:Haspengouw

Removed this because
 * a) its in Dutch! This is the English version of Wikivoyage
 * b) were removing the external links sections of articles.

Still, here's the link if anyone wants it Haspengouw (in Dutch)

---(WT-en) Tsandell 06:05, 12 March 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Hassan

Even when the city growing very fast and a proposed IIT in hassan why wikepedia has not updated for hassan.

 * I don't know anything about Wikipedia, but if you know something about travel in Hassan, please plunge forward and update it yourself! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:03, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Hastings

Having trouble staying logged in. I made the change differentiating between Hastings, New York and Hastings-on-Hudson, New York. (WT-en) SHC 17:17, 30 April 2006 (EDT)

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I know
I know your not allowed too many external links, but they are just too useful, and because there are so many sites I thought i would list them all, so people who dont know the place can figure out whats going on. They are at the end of the page, so should it be printed it can be chopped off for the travel guide.

 * Actually, we only allow one external link per guide (!), to the official tourism site for that location. I've captured the list you added below, but I don't think any of them meet our external links guideline. --(WT-en) Evan 20:06, 4 December 2006 (EST)

ahh, Now i see. I don't actually bother to read bits and pieces like that, but now I know. I suppose I could put the captured page on wikipedia.

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Cathay Guest House
I removed this listing because of the anonymous yet earnest-sounding review below.(WT-en) Texugo 02:55, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

i have stayed at the cathay for years. it is truly an icon but the rooms have really degenerated and the smiles long gone. i actually got yelled at by the cook for asking my egg scrambled last time i was there. but i go back because i have a long relationship w/ this place... yesterday when checking in, the woman tried to sell me (the last free)room grubby with broken fan taking me for some noob backpacker. i must have stayed there 30+ times all told - there are scored of cheapies in the b275-400 range in hy. even the laemthong across the street while only marginally cleaner(b300) has room service, hot water/thai tv if you so like. cathay is finished, give it a miss. -mgm ps: the rooms are b200 at cathay and the adverts on the walls often years old. pps: do not stay at love lane inn in penang either (rude staff / bedbugs).

Hotel listings
I imported these from the province article. The list is too long to import whole, and we should choose recommendable restaurants from it to list if any. The listings also need to be sorted into Budget, Mid-range and Splurge listings and properly formatted. (WT-en) Texugo 03:05, 23 April 2008 (EDT) 1,400-1,600 baht
 * Aan Aan Hotel (อานอาน) 96 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7424 3471, 0 7424 3229), 10 rooms: 100 baht
 * Amaraporn Guesthouse (อมราพรเกสท์เฮ้าส์) 98-100 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 1487 Fax: 0 7424 3363), 18 rooms: 250-400 baht
 * Amarin Hotel (อัมรินทร์) 285 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7424 4012, 0 7424 4272 Fax: 0 7423 1025), 140 rooms: 180-340 baht
 * Ambassador Hotel (แอมบาสซาเดอร์) 23 Phadungphakdi Road (Tel: 0 7423 4411-7 Fax: 0 7423 4410), 170 rooms: 580 baht
 * Amnuaysook Hotel (อำนวยสุข) 151 Saengsi Road (Tel: 0 7423 1847, 0 7423 7350 Fax: 0 7423 1847), 45 rooms: 160-300 baht
 * Asian Hotel (เอเซียน) 55-59 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7435 3400-14 Fax: 0 7423 4890), 184 rooms: 680-850 baht
 * B.P. Grand Suite Hotel (บีพีแกรนด์สวีท) 75/1 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7435 4520-7, 0 7435 5155 Fax: 0 7435 4528), 72 rooms:
 * B.P. Grand Tower Hotel (บีพีแกรนด์ทาวเวอร์) 74 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7435 5355-62, 0 7435 5355 Fax: 0 7423 9767), 247 rooms: 960-8,000 baht
 * Ban Ton Mai Resort (บ้านต้นไม้รีสอร์ท) 20/4 Mu 3 Lopburiramet Road (Tel: 0 7442 7190), 14 rooms: 350-500 baht
 * Bang Hak Resort (บางหักรีสอร์ท) 636 Sakhon Mongkhon 2 Road (Tel: 0 7436 3711, 0 1990 6885), 10 rooms: 550 baht
 * Cathay Guesthouse (คาเธ่ย์เกสท์เฮ้าส์) 93/1 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7424 3815, 0 7423 5044 Fax: 0 7435 4104), 28 rooms: 90-250 baht
 * Century Hotel (เซ็นจูรี่) 9 Soi 6, Rat Uthit Road (Tel & Fax: 0 7442 4100 E-mail: century@loxinfo.co.th), 18 rooms: 350-420 baht
 * Choke Amnuay Hotel (โชคอำนวย) 161/26-27 Soi 8 Saengsi Road (Tel: 0 7424 6376, 0 7423 8108), 45 rooms: 150-250 baht
 * Cholatarn Hotel (ชลธาร) 251/1 Saengchan Road (Tel: 0 7435 4580-6 Fax: 0 7435 4587), 61 rooms: 490-690 baht
 * City Park Hotel (ซิตี้ปาร์ค) 717/17 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 7434 5491-5 Fax: 0 7434 5496), 60 rooms: 590-1,400 baht
 * Daiichi Hotel (ไดอิชิ) 29 Chaiyakun Uthit 4 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0730, 0 7423 0724 Fax: 0 7423 1315), 176 rooms: 500-1,500 baht
 * Daimond Plaza Hotel (ไดมอนพาซ่า) 62 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0130-41, 0 7435 3140-9 Fax: 0 7423 9824), 267 rooms: 900-2,800 baht
 * Dusit Hotel (ดุสิต) 25/3 Pracharom Road (Tel: 0 7423 2141, 0 7424 5091 Fax: 0 7423 6479), 47 rooms: 140-200 baht
 * Emperor Hotel (เอ็มเพอเรอร์) 1 Tanrattanakon Road (Tel: 0 7423 5457-60, 0 7422 0216-7, Fax: 0 7423 4165), 108 rooms: 490-850 baht
 * Florida Hotel (ฟลอริดา) 8 Siphuwanat Road (Tel: 0 7423 4555-9 Fax: 0 7423 4553), 119 rooms: 627-1,898 baht
 * Genting Hotel (เกนติ้ง) 263 Sam Chai Road (Tel: 0 7423 9651-4, 0 7434 3216-9 Fax: 0 7423 9655), 72 rooms: 250-520 baht
 * Grand Hotel (แกรนด์) 257-261 Thammanunwithi Road (Tel: 0 7423 3669, 0 7424 3286), 21 rooms: 80-350 baht
 * Grand Plaza (แกรนด์พลาซ่า) 24/1 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7423 4340-7, 0 7423 0045-9 Fax: 0 7423 0050), 216 rooms: 660-1,300 baht
 * Hat Yai Central Hotel (หาดใหญ่เซ็นทรัล) 180-181 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0000-11 Fax: 0 7423 0990), 250 rooms: 685 baht
 * Hat Yai Garden Home Hotel (หาดใหญ่การ์เด้นโฮม) 51/2 Hoi Muk Road (Tel: 0 7423 6047, 0 7423 2283 Fax: 0 7423 4444), 103 rooms: 485-645 baht
 * Hat Yai Green View (หาดใหญ่กรีนวิว) 85/44 Saengsi Road (Tel: 0 7424 4207, 0 7435 1041-3 Fax: 0 7423 3223), 154 rooms: 300-500 baht
 * Hat Yai Meridian Hotel (หาดใหญ่เมอริเดียน) 41/26 Soi 2, Talat Mai (Tel: 0 7435 4732-8 Fax: 0 7435 4727), 80 rooms: 600-700 baht
 * Hat Yai Palace Hotel (หาดใหญ่พาเลส) 10/7 Chaiyakun Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7435 7576-83 Fax: 0 7423 5750), 102 rooms: 550-750 baht
 * Hat Yai Rama (หาดใหญ่รามา) 9/5 Siphuwanat Road (Tel: 0 7423 0222-4, 0 7435 4684-98 Fax: 0 7423 4560-1), 152 rooms: 580-1,450 baht
 * Hat Yai International (หาดใหญ่อินเตอร์เนชั่นแนล) 42-44 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7424 4744, 0 7423 1860, 0 7435 1500-3 Fax: 0 7423 2539), 210 rooms: 400-500 baht
 * Hun Num Tai (ฮุนนำใต้) 5-7 Duangchan Road (Tel: 0 7424 3165), 16 rooms: 80-120 baht
 * Indra (อินทรา) 94 Thammanunwithi Road (Tel: 0 7424 5886, 0 7423 2488), 118 rooms: 350-800 baht
 * J.B. Hat Yai (เจบีหาดใหญ่) 99 Chuti Anuson Road (Tel: 0 7423 4300-18 Fax: 0 7423 4328 Bangkok office Tel: 0 2261 3118-9 E-mail: jb-hotel.com), 432 rooms:  1,900-11,000 baht
 * Kosit (โฆษิต) 199 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7423 4364-9, 0 7424 4711 Fax: 0 7423 2365), 160 rooms: 590-1,180 baht
 * L.K. Sheraton (แอลเคเชอราตัน) 150 Saengchan Road (Tel: 0 7423 0120-9 Fax: 0 7423 5681), 187 rooms: 600-700 baht
 * Ladda Guesthouse (ลัดดาเกสท์เฮ้าส์) 13-15 Thammanunwithi Road (Tel: 0 7422 0233), 24 rooms: 200-320 baht
 * Laemthong (แหลมทอง) 46 Thammanunwithi Road (Tel: 0 7435 2301-4 Fax: 0 7423 7574), 133 rooms: 200-400 baht
 * Lanna Inn (ลานนาอินน์) 16 Rat Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7425 3312, 0 7442 4993 Fax: 0 7425 3398), 72 rooms: 350-370 baht
 * Lee Garden (ลีการ์เด้น) 1 Lee Phatthana Road (Tel: 0 7423 4420-9 Fax: 0 7423 1888), 191 rooms: 600-2,600 baht
 * Lee Garden Plaza (ลีการ์เด้นพลาซ่า) 29 Prachathipat Road (Tel: 0 7426 1111-26 Fax: 0 7435 3555), 405 rooms: 1,149-8,900 baht
 * Lido (ลิโด้) 11 Montri Road (Tel: 0 7424 4974-5), 37 rooms: 180-240 baht
 * Louise Guesthouse (หลุยส์เกสท์เฮ้าส์) 21-23 Thammanunwithi Road (Tel: 0 7422 0966), 22 rooms: 250-500 baht
 * Mae Nam (แม่น้ำ) 43/42-43 Tanrattanakon Road (Tel: 0 7423 4800-3 Fax: 0 7424 5974), 38 rooms: 490-800 baht
 * Mandarin (แมนดาริน) 62-64 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7424 3438), 32 rooms: 160-200 baht
 * Marcopolo (มาโคโปโล) 22-24 Siphuwanat Road (Tel: 0 7423 3076), 27 rooms: 120 baht
 * Marina (มา��ีน่า) 107 Rat Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7425 3070-2 Fax: 0 7425 3072), 69 rooms: 180-280 baht
 * Merlin Hat Yai (เมอร์ลินหาดใหญ่) 2 Chaiyakun Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7423 0030-8 Fax: 0 7423 0036), 104 rooms: 450-999 baht
 * Metro (เมโทร) 86 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0088-91 Fax: 0 7423 7836), 113 rooms: 200-480 baht
 * Montien Hotel (มณเฑียร) 120-124 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7423 4386-9, 0 7423 0039-42 Fax: 0 7423 0043), 160 rooms: 350-550 baht
 * Mueang Thong (เมืองทอง) 8/3-4 Phadungphakdi Road (Tel: 0 724 5749) 13 rooms; 100-130 baht
 * Mueang Thong 2 (เมืองทอง 2) 16/1 Phadungphakdi Road (Tel: 0 7424 6407, 0 7423 3179), 26 rooms; 150-270 baht
 * My House (มายเฮ้าส์) 600 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 7423 5700-7 Fax: 0 7423 5708), 104 rooms: 559-617 baht
 * New World (นิวเวิลด์) 152-156 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0100-4, 0 7435 4787-90 Fax: 0 7423 0105), 148 rooms: 450-1,280 baht
 * Novotel Central Sukhontha (เซ็นทรัลสุคนธา) 3 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7435 2222-36 Fax: 0 7435 2223), 237 rooms: 3,296-7,415 baht
 * O.H. (โอเอช) 135 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0142-4 Fax: 0 7435 4824), 126 rooms: 450-1,280 baht
 * P.K. (พีเค) 348 Ratthakan Road (Tel: 0 7423 6517-8), 50 rooms: 180-450 baht
 * Pacific (แปซิฟิก) 149/1 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7424 4062, 0 7424 5202), 35 rooms: 200-400 baht
 * Paking (ปักกิ่ง) 39-43 Chueamrat Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7424 5206, 0 7424 6443), 29 rooms: 170-250 baht
 * Palm Inn (ปาล์มอินน์) 828 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 7423 3198, 0 7423 4690), 46 rooms: 410 baht
 * Park (ปาร์ค) 81 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7423 3351, 0 7423 2316 Fax: 0 7423 2259), 34 rooms: 390-450 baht
 * Piman (พิมาน) 89 Rat Yindi Road (Tel: 0 7423 0145-7, 0 7424 5710 Fax: 0 7423 4700), 116 rooms: 190-290 baht
 * Pink (พิงค์) 24/12 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7423 0960-4, 0 7435 3348-50 Fax: 0 7423 5218), 72 rooms: 500-620 baht
 * President (เพรสซิเดนท์) 420 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 7434 9500-5 Fax: 0 7423 0609), 110 rooms: 550-600 baht
 * Racha (ราชา) 42-44 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7423 0951-5), 65 rooms: 460-480 baht
 * Rado (ราโด) 59 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7423 9202, 0 7423 9224 Fax: 0 7423 9269), 82 rooms: 360-460 baht
 * Regency (รีเจนซี่) 23 Prachathipat Road (Tel: 0 7435 3333-47, 0 7423 4400-9 Fax: 0 7423 4102 www.regencyhatyai.com), 436 rooms: 798-5,400 baht
 * River Inn (ริเวอร์อินน์) 65 Chonthara Road (Tel: 0 7423 1101-3, 0 7424 4750-1 Fax: 0 7423 5601), 100 rooms: 480 baht
 * S.C. Heritage (เอสซีเฮอริเทจ) 36/43 Soi 5, Saengsi Road (Tel: 0 7423 3088, 0 7423 1795), 56 rooms: 395-455 baht
 * S.K. (เอสเค) 13 Soi 1 Channiwet 1 Road (Tel: 0 7442 0558-65 Fax: 0 7442 0530), 75 rooms: 400 baht
 * Sakol (สากล) 47-48 Sanehanuson Road (Tel: 0 7435 5500-3 Fax: 0 7423 5161), 107 rooms: 520 baht
 * Sakura (ซากุระ) 185/1 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 5111-3 Fax: 0 7423 5936), 62 rooms: 580-790 baht
 * Sakura Grand View (ซากุระแกรนด์วิว) 186 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7435 5700-14 Fax: 0 7435 5722), 230 rooms: 980-2,940 baht
 * Siam City (สยามซิตี้) 25-35 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7435 3111-29 Fax: 0 7423 1060), 143 rooms: 855-3,500 baht
 * Silom Palace (สีลมพาเลส) 33 Rat Uthit Soi 6 Road (Tel: 0 7442 5301-4 Fax: 0 7442 5301-4), 72 rooms: 450-550 baht
 * Singapore (สิงคโปร์) 66 Suppasanrangsan Road (Tel: 0 7423 7478, 0 7424 4535), 34 rooms: 250-450 baht
 * Sornsil Guesthouse (สรศิลป์เกสท์เฮ้าส์) 251/7-8 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 7423 2635), 15 rooms: 180-350 baht
 * Star Guesthouse (สตาร์เกสท์เฮ้าส์) 192/1 Niphat Uthit 2 Road (Tel: 0 7424 3106), 45 rooms: 150 baht
 * Tanaphat Hat Yai (ธนภัทรหาดใหญ่) 222 Supphasanrangsan Road (Tel: 0 7435 1590-2 Fax: 0 7435 1593), 65 rooms: 490 baht
 * Thai Hotel (ไทยโฮเต็ล) 9 Soi Sunthon, Rat Uthit Road (Tel: 0 7425 3081-2), 75 rooms: 150-700 baht
 * V.L. (วีแอล) 1-3-5-7 Niphat Uthit 1 Road (Tel: 0 7435 2201-3, 0 7422 3660-3 Fax: 0 7435 2210 E-mail: info@vlhatyaihotel.com), 104 rooms: 849-1,249 baht
 * Yee Fah Grand City (งี่ฟ้าแกรนด์ซิตี้) 220 Prachathipat Road (Tel: 0 7423 4438-41 Fax: 0 7423 4437), 82 rooms: 350 baht
 * Yong Dee (ยงดี) 99 Niphat Uthit 3 Road (Tel: 0 7423 4350-7, 0 7435 1696-9 Fax: 0 7423 7436), 107 rooms: 500-580 baht

Eat listings
Moved some cluttered Eat listings here. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 13:55, 15 February 2010 (EST)

 * Cha Nang (ชะนาง) 37/1 Niphat Songkhro 1 Road Tel: 0 7423 6311, 0 7423 0166
 * Che Ka (เจ๊ะกา) 884-886 Kanchanawanit Road Tel: 0 7436 5264
 * Che Lek (เจ๊เล็ก) 190/3-4 Niphat Uthit 2 Road Tel: 0 7424 4466, 0 7424 6710
 * Hamid (ฮามิด) 85/2-3 Prachathipat Road Tel: 0 7424 6463
 * Hi Wa Thian (ไหหว้าเทียน) 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27 Chaiyakun Uthit Soi 4 Road Tel: 0 7424 3011, 0 7422 1201
 * Hong Yok (หงษ์หยก) 31/33-35 Chiwanuson Road Tel: 0 7424 5124-5
 * Kan-eng (กันเอง) Niphat Uthit 3 Road Tel: 0 7424 6138
 * Khaotom Nai Yao (ข้าวต้มนายยาว) Thammanunwithi Road Tel: 0 7424 6208
 * Krathom Duean Phen (กระท่อมเดือนเพ็ญ) Thammanunwithi Road Tel: 0 7423 3160
 * Mae Thip (แม่ทิพย์) 187-188 Niphat Uthit 3 Tel: 0 7424 4235, 0 7424 3369
 * Mariya (มารียา) 169 Saeng Chan Road Tel: 0 7424 5194
 * Phailin Steak House (ไพลินสเต็กเฮ้าส์) 18/3-4 Siphuwanat Road Tel: 0 7423 8562, 0 7423 3222
 * Ruean Thai Mai Suai (เรือนไทยไม้สวย) 173 Niphat Uthit 3 Road Tel: 0 7424 3238, 0 7423 4190
 * Sumatra (สุมาตรา) 55/1 Ratthakan Road Tel: 0 7424 6459, 0 7423 2747
 * Sunday (ซันเดย์) 64 Chuti Anuson Road Tel: 0 7423 3650

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 13:55, 15 February 2010 (EST)

I could not find any further info about this restaurant. So I moved it here.

 * Ya Lun Rou Ku Cha - (Tel +66 16 082829). For those who like to eat pork rib soup or bak kut tea.

-- Jkonwp (talk) 15:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Last bombing
I suspect this needs an update:

The most recent bombing was 3 Apr 2012.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:02, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Hausa phrasebook

Sanna
Do "Sanna" mean both "Hello" and "Sorry"? Of course it could be but I just want to make sure. Look at Basics and Other. ((WT-en) SebastianGS 14:08, 27 June 2008 (EDT))

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