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User talk:MarkJaroski/Archive2005

Hey, so, have you stuck around to see the messages projected on the Jet d'Eau at night? --(WT-en) Evan 14:20, 9 Dec 2003 (PST)

Back in the states?
Hey, are you back in the states? If not, what the hell are you doing editing Wikivoyage at 5AM Sunday morning? --(WT-en) Evan 23:44, 3 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Nope, we stayed in Switzerland this year. Glad we did too, because of all of the traveling hassle, etc.  And I´ve already been skiing once! -- (WT-en) Mark 10:34, 5 Jan 2004 (EST)

Admin nomination
You should check the administrator nominations. --(WT-en) Evan 19:04, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

French Wikivoyage
Would you like to contribute to the French Wikivoyage? -(WT-en) phma 05:32, 15 Jan 2004 (EST)

Admin
So, now you're an admin. You should probably log out and log back in so your cookie gets cleared and you get the new privileges. Be careful with anything that looks new, and if you have any questions, let me know. --(WT-en) Evan 15:50, 25 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * I will try not to break anything. ;) -- (WT-en) Mark 05:19, 26 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * The biggest problem I've had is accidentally hitting the "Protect this page" link. It's the only one without a confirmation page that you can back out of. --(WT-en) Evan 12:46, 26 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * OK. I'll watch out for that... meanwhile, I've got lots of notes from recent trips, and am going to do some regular plain old contributions. -- (WT-en) Mark 17:45, 26 Jan 2004 (EST)

French Wikivoyage Expedition
So, the French localization file is up, if you want to get working on it. I've had a Montrealais friend offer to help out with the Expedition, which will make the magic Fifth Person. Let's get cracking! --(WT-en) Evan 14:24, 5 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Ok, you did like me for the vote. But you should vote for someone telling us you think he would be a good go-between. :o) --(WT-en) Pontauxchats 10:53, 9 Feb 2004 (EST)

Wechselbot
I proposed a script called Wechselbot. What do you think? -(WT-en) phma 22:05, 22 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Seems like an interesting idea. What would the base currancy be?  USD? Since I live in Switzerland I guess I would have to vote for CHF...  of course Evan and MAJ are in Canada, so they might have a different point of view... ;)  Really though if all the script did was to put Xcurrency = USD at the bottom that would probably be fine, especially if it was always marked as a minor edit. -- (WT-en) Mark 01:35, 23 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * The comment would look like <!--wb:chf/cad--&rt;. The base is USD, because that's what finance.yahoo.com uses as a base; after gathering all the exchange rates, the bot computes the ratios as needed. -(WT-en) phma 08:01, 23 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Perhaps we should move this to the Project:script nominations page. --(WT-en) Evan 08:04, 23 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * OK -- (WT-en) Mark 09:44, 23 Feb 2004 (EST)

Admin nomination
Mark, I've just nominated User:(WT-en) Huttite for admin status. Please have a look at Project:Administrator nominations. (WT-en) Dhum Dhum Akubra 11:06, 24 Mar 2004 (EST)

Minot
Thanks for your appreciation! There's more to come, naturally.--(WT-en) Alexwcovington 01:59, 21 Apr 2004 (EDT)

 * Excellent. I'll be looking foward to it.  -- (WT-en) Mark 04:03, 21 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Photo
I'm not actually in Minot at the moment, so I can't just go out and take a picture. I have a few lying around on my hard drive at the moment. The best general purpose one is up on the Wikipedia article. In three weeks I'll be back in Minot so I'll be able to do something there. But you remind me... While I'm in Grand Forks I should take some pictures. --(WT-en) Alexwcovington 02:19, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Geneva
Would you also like to also explain WHY you reverted my changes to Geneva? Right now, your bulleted lists are broken (you have one list for each item due to the use of empty lines in between - very bad html). Arguably, the links may be useful but you'd have to change the policies first. Other guide is other guide... -- (WT-en) Nils 08:55, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)

 * I don't really care about the other guides, but vertical white space is important. -- (WT-en) Mark 08:58, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)

 * They are also wrong, and a BIG html no-no. See my talkpage, so we do not discuss it in two places. -- (WT-en) Nils 09:00, 27 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Paree
Hey! I'm so glad to hear you guys are having a good trip in Paris. You're getting Noema into travelling really, really early! I hope things keep going well. Quick question: did you get your invite? I know you can't come, but we want to make sure Europeans are receiving them. --(WT-en) Evan 13:13, 9 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Mermaid
>deleted the mermaid image, though I don't understand what the copyright problem could be The problem is the danish copyright law. I had to read it a few times to understand the problem. Basicly the heirs of the guy that make the statue formed a company that holds the rigts to make "copies" of the statue. Apparently photos with the statue as the main motive are considered copies. Maybe I didn't do anything wrong. But if someone made a Copenhagen guidebook based on wiktravel under CC-sa they would certainly be sued. See http://www.mermaidsculpture.dk/kommerciel_uk.html and http://www.godset.dk/rolf/snowbrev.htm -- (WT-en) elgaard 16:01, 2004 Sep 17 (EDT)

 * It seems US laws are no bette. See Travellers Pub --(WT-en) elgaard 11:30, 13 Feb 2005 (EST)

Thank you for the Welcome
Thanks for the welcome, I only stumbled into Wikivoyage from a remark on Wikipedia:Village Pump and then saw the Brussels entry. I'll adapt and add some of my notes to it. -(WT-en) Wikibob | Talk 17:39, 2004 Sep 19 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome. -- (WT-en) Rspga49 8:19 September 27, 2004 (EDT)

Paris Again
Hi there Mark. Glad you like my (fairly random) contributions on Paris - one of my favourite cities (I suspect it may be one of yours also.....!) No real items on my wishlist at the moment - I'll be in Paris myself early December for 4 days in any case - so just be sure and have a good time while you're there. The only thing I was thinking today was that we really need a good public domain map of Paris arrondissements to go with the Paris Districts section - kind of a broad overview of their layout around the city, position in relation to the Seine, etc. Probably need some extra-peripheral items on it as well - St Denis, Bois de Vincennes, Bois de Boulogne, Versailles (?) just to help out. Maybe something like this. No luck so far with my own searches. Have you seen anything, or - with your very admirable map-making skills - maybe you could put a prototype together? (I don't want to make work for you, however..... What software are you using? - Maybe I could try my hand at it?) (WT-en) Pjamescowie 13:44, 9 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * Hey Mark, that's a great map of the Paris arrondissements you've put together - that was quick and made perfectly to order! Keep up the good work buddy! (Just two little points: it looks like "Défense" has been spelt incorrectly, i.e. "Défanse" - is this easy to fix? Also, do we need to thumbnail this image? - it looks well-proportioned on my screen compared to the rest of the text, and having to click on it to see the detail could work against convenience comparison with the list of districts..... Hope you don't mind my constructive suggestions....!) (WT-en) Pjamescowie 13:18, 10 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * Map's looking good! Just one little thing - you're gonna curse me for this! - but "Défense" is definitely spelt with an "s", not a "c".... (PJC ducks cyber-atlas thrown at his head....) Almost there: it's a great map Mark! Thanks for your efforts.... (WT-en) Pjamescowie 13:58, 10 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Hiya -- I have a list of Paris restaurant cards (even with a few review sentences). Like all my plans, I just need some spare time to type them in! I'll be proud to help represent the meat eaters. Have a great time in Paris. -- (WT-en) Tinfoiled 09:22, 13 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Chinese fonts
How can I get Chinese fonts and typing working? I'm running KDE 3.0.99 and XFree86 4.2.1. My browser default font is Verdana, and all the letters on my keyboard layout page show up correctly. -(WT-en) phma 19:27, 10 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Sorry about that
Mark, sorry about that. Normally I don't check mispellings in images but I did those edits in a bit of a rush and that slipped through. --(WT-en) Nzpcmad 15:44, 11 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Kathmandu map
Hey, I gave it a shop and did. I think the scale is going to make the writing too small-- maybe we crop it below Dubar Square? It's a heck of a city to try and do a map for-- I was there 4 months and still got lost just about every time I went out... Thanks for getting this going! (WT-en) Majnoona 13:38, 28 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Script nominations
So, for scripts to write to the site, we need to have two admins give a thumbs-up. Can you take a look at the two bots that were recently added to the Project:script nominations page and give your thumbs-up/down? It'll help us get unstuck. --(WT-en) Evan 17:04, 28 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Virtual hosting
Dammit I replied to you on Talk:Chiang Mai just as you updated your message to invalidate my reply. Perilous :) -- (WT-en) Hypatia 05:16, 2 Nov 2004 (EST)

No leave the comment as it is, or it will invalidate the followup discussion about edit conflicts! -- (WT-en) Hypatia 05:27, 2 Nov 2004 (EST)

New admin nominees
So, I just nominated three new people for admin status. Since it takes the approval of two other admins to get one of these nominations approved, I'd appreciate it if you could drop in to Project:administrator nominations and show your support (or lack thereof). And, yes, this is just a copy-and-paste of the messages I've put on the other admins' talk pages. --(WT-en) Evan 17:17, 9 Nov 2004 (EST)

Maps
Mark, your map of Paris looks Great! Your notes on it's creation are also good. I'm going to take a stab at generating some maps myself now...again -- (WT-en) Yosemite 16:19, 10 Dec 2004 (EST)

sp
I generally try and avoid "proper" names for just that reason but sometimes I get it wrong! Putting some sort of indicator would definitely help. From my side, if I have to look at the context of every suspect word it's going to slow me down but I guess that's just the way it is. --(WT-en) Nzpcmad 16:16, 14 Dec 2004 (EST)

Spam on User page
Thanks for the removal. I have chongqed the base URL. - (WT-en) Huttite 15:38, 12 Jan 2005 (EST)

Script
That must be one hell of a ten line script. Nice! -- (WT-en) Colin 15:52, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

use LWP::UserAgent;

 * and it all flows from there. Basically loads up his "User Contributions" page and checks for (and hits) any rollback links found. -- (WT-en) Mark 15:56, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I was going to write some script like that, after I've fixed one page and realized that this is massive attack. But you were damn fast... ;)
 * Please tell me if your script work (in general) like
 * read user contibutions
 * "follow" (top) link if there is one for the entry (or follow history if there is (top))
 * "follow" link to display the version before (top) one
 * "follow" link to edit it
 * "follow" link to save it
 * Or is there any easier way to do this (eg. ?action=revert, or so)? I agree that this is not very complicated, but I think it would take me 15 min. up to one hour to write and test it (although I have no skills in perl, so I would use bash or php probably). Thanks. -- (WT-en) JanSlupski 17:49, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Ok, I can answer myself now. Admins have additiona rollback link, that saves most of above steps. BTW. You may consider enhancing your script so it hides vandalism and it's rollback from Recentchanges (see ). --(WT-en) JanSlupski 18:13, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Yes the "rollback" link is the solution. I didn't realize that that's an admin-only feature.  I'm not sure how easy it is to hide stuff from recent changes.  I guess I could hide the script's changes by properly declaring it as a bot, but I dunno about the anon user. -- (WT-en) Mark 18:21, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Yeah, good job. Thanks so much for doing this difficult work. Bonus points for adding a "rollback all" feature to the User Contributions page for MediaWiki.

 * Fast question, though: this guy seems to have a serious beef. Do we have any idea what his problem is? --(WT-en) Evan 18:48, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I've been trying to figure it out, but so far no luck. The same IP was used by somebody who did some commentary on Vancouver back in January, but it really doesn't seem related.  I wonder if it was one of the spammers who created an account.. I recall there were a couple a couple of days ago. -- (WT-en) Mark 19:05, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

Just so you know...
You've effectively set mts against thousands of students in an entire school division. your nice little PERL code was basically worthless and does nothing but restrict your own site... how does it feel?

 * Complaining at Mark for trying to solve a problem he didn't cause demonstrates a severe lack of understanding regarding who actually caused the trouble. -- (WT-en) Colin 13:58, 7 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * For what it's worth it doesn't restrict anybody or anything. I could have just blocked the IP, but we don't do that since it would be blocking potentially an entire population.  The script just cleaned up after a malicious user using the IP, and has no effect whatever on a user from the same IP who, say, just wants to leave a message on this page. -- (WT-en) Mark 14:09, 7 Feb 2005 (EST)

Heh
Hey! My daughter was born Jun 24, 2004. About the same age as yours! -- (WT-en) Colin 03:46, 5 Mar 2005 (EST)

You!!!
you have locked out thousands of kids from your site. ha.

 * We haven't locked anybody out at all. We're just reverting vandalism.  If you make a worthwhile edit it will stay. -- (WT-en) Mark 14:15, 11 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * Absolutely. I kinda wish we could work out what the problem is -- most of what I've seen has been mass deletions, reverted. If those deletions are supposed to be some kind of "punishment", let's work out the problem and get past this. If you're just testing how WikiWiki works, well, hey -- this is how it works. You can do anything you want, and we can fix it if we don't like it. Now, if you want to make some kind of point, the easiest way to do so is just say it. --(WT-en) Evan 09:50, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)

Thanks for the maps
Hey, just want to say thanks for the cool looking maps. I tried making a couple a while ago, using gimp and freehand mouse scribbles, and they both sucked horribly.

Also, I your page said "If you've got a trip to one of these planned, bug me and I'll put some time into the article.", well: I'm heading to China later this year (October time), including to Shanghai... *hint hint* :P

Thanx Mark!

New Logo Contest
Hey Mark, I've just re-jigged the Project:Logo contest page from 2 years ago.... Time to submit that compass card logo you talked about in the Pub....! (WT-en) Pjamescowie 13:38, 22 Jun 2005 (EDT)

vandalism
hi, we have wikimedia running, and a user changed 400 pages in 20 minutes.

how can you rollback all these changes at once?

I am not a programmer, but if you can help us here, would be very cool.

thanx, martin

mak_wiki At eunet Dot co Dot at

 * Be right there.. -- (WT-en) Mark 07:30, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Sorry, but I can't seem to find your site, so I'll try to answer your question. First, this assumes that your wiki software is Mediawiki, and that you are an admin user.  You will also need to be sure to use a web browser which has tabs, something like Konqueror or Safari or Firefox.

Go to the "User Contributions" page for the user who made the changes. You should see a bunch of "rollback" links. Right click each of them and choose the menu item "Open in new tab". Once in a while you'll find you have too many tabs open, so take a moment to close them. You should be able to do the whole thing in about 75% of the time it took the vandal to do the vandalism. -- (WT-en) Mark 07:36, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Admin nomination
I've added an nomination for User:(WT-en) Pjamescowie to become an admin. Please stop by and give your opinion. --(WT-en) Evan 19:44, 2 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Re: who put the stub on the Main Page?
All of the Caribbean articles on the main page are stubs. -- (WT-en) Colin 14:07, 26 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Thanks for saying hello
Cool.

--(WT-en) RandalSchwartz 02:13, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

About your logo submission...
I know it's a bit late to be suggesting changes, but I had some comments you may or may not find helpful:

1) The logo shouldn't jut out on the top and bottom so much, because there is too much whitespace... this may not be a problem, as I'm not sure exactly how which emblems will be used. You've probably considered this already.

2) Totally a personal opinion, but I think the font might be better in a classical looking serif font, like Georgia or something, in black... and in all caps, with the W big and ikivoyage in small caps. With that change, the color of the emblem might change to a yellowed color, like old maps, and the borders of the cells made much thinner.  You probably don't want to change this, but I'm personally a big fan of antique maps and such, so there's my input.

3) I thought maybe you could complete the top left portion of the compass, complete with less prevalent SW, NW, and NE marks subdued and in the background (not interfering with the text). I know this sort of kills the butterfly like logo design, but I'm not particularly fond of that.

4) Even if you don't make any of the changes above (and I doubt you will because they're somewhat drastic), I suggest instead of showing the two pieces of the compass star seperated from eachother, stick them together (at the corner/center) and then cut a rectangle from the point of the West jut to the point of the East jut, and therein put the text. That way, it will take up less vertical room, it will also make a nice, clean looking border for the text.

I'm sorry I couldn't take the images and edit them myself, but I only became aware of the logo submissions today, and I'm not at my computer until sometime next week. I really like your design, despite what changes I've considered (and I could be wrong, and your logo may be best untouched!), so good luck! I think it will win, and I'm sure if it can be better in some way you can change it once your basic design has won.

 * Thanks for the comments... I'll take them into account. -- (WT-en) Mark 04:48, 10 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Collaboration
I think your logo submission is now the favourite to win the competition. I was wondering if you fancied having a go at making a version of your compass-star with something like my text logo in as a possible alternative version of your logo, and see what people thought? I'm certainly open to you tearing my logo to pieces and using whichever bits of it might help enhance yours.

Just a thought. :) -- (WT-en) Owl 03:23, 10 Aug 2005 (EDT)

I've been thinking about that all along, and I'm going to give it a go this weekend if I have time. Unfortunately no matter what some folks seem to think real graphic design takes some time.. ;) -- (WT-en) Mark 03:59, 10 Aug 2005 (EDT)

How did you do your Paris maps?
I just loaded your full Image:Paris.svg into Inkscape and I was totally blown away by the level of complexity and detail in it! (Actually it ate up all the RAM in my machine and I had to wait for the disk to stop swapping to close the window!) The smaller maps of the arrondissements are certainly the best quality cc-licensed maps I have ever seen anywhere on the web, without a shadow of a doubt.

I would love to do a similar (but clearly much smaller, and much less professional, as it'll be a first effort) map for Manchester at some point. I posted a question over at the Mapmaking Expedition but no one seemed to answer me. I'm at a loss where to start. How did you get the layout of the roads for those maps? Did you trace an existing map or satellite photograph? Is there anything illegal about that if I do it? I had a go at tracing over a Google satellite image, and it's really hard but I reckon I could do it with enough time.

Do you have any hints that could make my life easier?

Thanks for your help!

-- (WT-en) Owl 16:43, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * The Paris map is all done from a numer of satellite photos. asically I buy one per arrondissment with resolution down to the back-yard shed level.  From there I use known street names either by on the ground reconaissence or a map I've bought to label the streets. -- (WT-en) Mark 16:52, 17 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * And it's assumed that the layout of the streets in the photos is "public domain" information? Sounds good. Once again, I'll try using Google's satellite imagery for Manchester. I don't suppose there would be anything questionable about using their "hybrid" format to trace, so long as I trace over the positions of the streets in the photo rather than where Google has marked them... Thanks for your help. -- (WT-en) Owl 03:07, 18 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * I think I'd avoid doing that since in Britain that sort of data usually comes with copyright constraints. Google's map data, which is included in the hybrid view almost certainly comes from her majesty's ordinance survey, which owns a crown copyright on the data.  They make back some of the considerable cost of doing what are called "ground sourcing" on the data by selling it to companies like google and multi-map, and by selling maps in bookshops.

 * The long and short of is don't use data from Google unless you get express permission. It's better to get a satellite photo and work from that, then do your own reconnaissance on the ground to achieve higher accuracy.

 * The situation is somewhat better for the USA by the way. For U.S. Maps we can use the Census Bureau's Tiger line data.  This data is derived from aerial photos, and is roughly ground checked by the post office.  It's not guaranteed to be accurate though the way Ordinance Survey data is.

 * Hope that helps. -- (WT-en) Mark 03:58, 18 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * Erk! Surely if I look at Google data in "Satellite" mode there can't be any copyright data there! I'm seeing the real layout of the streets there, and surely there's not a copyright on that. I'm not sure how I'd get hold of any other kind of satellite imagery without shelling out. :( -- (WT-en) Owl 10:45, 18 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * I've been spending about US$32 for each arrondissement of Paris, of which I'm working on the 18th now. Of course I haven't gotten much accomplished with it lately since I've been doing other things.  There's a list of providers here.

 * If you want to find free satellite data try NASA's WorldWind software, which is eerily similar to Google's. I'm pretty sure that since Landsat data is produced by the U.S. Gov it must be copyright free.  You can get usually get much better results from photos taken at a lower altitude by airplanes, which is what I've been buying. -- (WT-en) Mark 12:35, 18 Aug 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:MarkJaroski/Logo sandbox

Text not Legible at small sizes

 * Interesting idea, but two things are (to me) immediately apparent: the text is too small, and the second compass rose in the 'o' of the text is way too small and redundant. You need to find someway to superimpose or integrate the text and rose.  I also like the color version better than the line art. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:34, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Thanks for the response! I hope you don't mind that I've moved it over here; I just think it will be tidier to talk about it over here where we can do the usual discussion thing. -- (WT-en) Mark 10:58, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Now to answer your question, the second compas in the a was just for fun, as were the other fonts. I really don't mean for anything at this point to be anything more than an jumping off place for collaboration.  I just through it in there because there *are* situations (t-shirts, letterhead) where we might want to reverse the relationship between the text and the shape, and the a in Wikivoyage gives us an opportunity to do that. The above example tries to make that more clear.  I think the star will have to be darker, and have thicker outlines to really make it work though.

 * As for reading the text at small sizes, I would actually just leave the text off for anything less than 100px. At really small sizes Wikipedia leaves it off, but there is a W on the puzzle peice in the center of the WikiPedia globe, and at really small sizes they just superimpose a W.  These tricks are pretty common in the logo biz.  I'll make an example of that too.

 * I like the color one two, but I think there are situations where we'll need an outline one as well, so I want to keep making outline version as well as color versions running through the iterations.

 * Thanks again for the feedback. I really appreciate your views. -- (WT-en) Mark 11:07, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * I agree with (WT-en) Jpatokal - the second compass rose in the 'o' of the text is redundant and too small to be easily recognized. It gets even harder to recognize what I assume are the fleur de lys and the Union Jack (I think that's the name) of the French and British versions. I wouldn't bother putting anything in the 'o'. I also prefer the color version.

 * I don't expect to enter the contest, so I'll offer this suggestion...if the logo is going to be localized for different versions of Wikivoyage, I would suggest putting the country logo either singly in the lower right corner as a counterbalance to the word 'Wikivoyage', or centered above the Wikivoyage word. I also think that sans serif fonts would work better for a logo concept like this. What do you think? -- (WT-en) Mikito 11:13, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Yes, I think both of you are right about the second star in the "a". I also don't seriously propose to use the "Participant" fonts.  I'm just trying stuff, and sharing the results.

 * I think putting language version symbols in the lower right is a fantastic idea!

 * I am starting to wonder about the wisdom of calling this process a "contest" if it means that people who are "entering" aren't going to want to collaborate. I get the idea that that's the impression you got from our calling it that, am I wrong? -- (WT-en) Mark 11:32, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Oh yeah, I do think that san-serif fonts are generally better for this kind of thing, although it's worth playing around with serif fonts too, to see if something might click. -- (WT-en) Mark 11:39, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * I'm glad you like my idea about where to put language version symbols. Of course, this brings up the question of what symbols are appropriate and recognizable. The fleur de lys, for example, makes me think of Quebec (see their province flag) before France, though it applies to both. A German version...maybe a black eagle or whatever bird it is? For a Japanese version, maybe a sun dot, but it would have to be in red. I'm having a hard time thinking of good symbols.

 * As for the whole contest thing, while on one hand it would be great for someone to come up with a good logo on his/her own, a collaboration on the logo would epitomize what Wikivoyage is all about, don't you think? -- (WT-en) Mikito 17:35, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Text/logo integration idea
I was thinking about what (WT-en) Jpatokal said about superimposing or integrating the text with the compass, and I had an idea. I tried to sketch it on my computer, but I'm not familiar enough with the program I have to make anything that looks good. So, I'll just try to describe it in words.

Take your puzzle/compass star idea. Now superimpose the word "Wikivoyage" over it in white letters, taking care to use the "t" as the center of the compass star. Now to make sure that the text is fully legible, have a black or blue outline around each letter.

I know that there are fonts out there which trace the outline of each character while leaving the interior white or transparent.

Does this make any sense? -- (WT-en) Mikito 20:24, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

You might want to post your submission
I already posted mine, even though it is still being revised. I think more people might be encouraged to participate in the contest if they see that people are actually submitting. It also might bring more poeple to your talk page to suggest revisions.

Plus, it's good logo, you shouldn't get to keep it to yourself :). --(WT-en) Comrade009 19:24, 26 Jun 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:MarkJaroski/Maps

I noticed a number of typos/spelling mistakes in the streets, neighbourhood, etc. names in the map and in the Paris article. I am not used to editing SVG so if you can extract those and transmit them to me so I can correct them, I would gladly do so.

 * Cool! I'd be happy to have the corrections.  What format would you like?  One name per line?  But, did you know that you can open an SVG file with a simple text editor and just search for the streetname?

 * Either way I'll work with you to make it as easy as possible. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Mark

How to?
Hi. Quick question - how do you actually make the maps? are you using a graphic design software? I'd really love to make some maps for places I know of, but I wouldn't want them to be different from the style that you're trying to achieve. Cheers (WT-en)  B arr  Y   20:06, 11 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:MarkJaroski/Wix

Mark: hopefully this won't mess up your tests. Anyways, I've set up a public GNU Arch server for Wikivoyage-related software, and I thought you may be interested in putting Wix on it. (Due to limitations of the virtual server we're using, I can't set up a CVS server. Anyways, I'm really becoming an Arch convert.) Let me know and I'll set up an account. --(WT-en) Evan 15:52, 10 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * Cool! I like that a lot better than having it at geekhive.  I've started reading the {arch} docs now, and will try playing with a local {arch} server tonight.

 * Actually, I was going to ask a bit of advice as well, on a couple of points:

 * I've done this mostly as a perl module, with a really thin wrapper script for the command line. I figure that it's at least as useful as some of the stuff on CPAN, so I got an account.  What do you think the namespace ought to be?  How does WWW::Mediawiki::Client sound?

 * In my test suite I've started adding tests which depend on a mediawiki install running on localhost. Do you think it be better to make those tests optional, or to try to simulate a mediawiki instance with perl, or is there a mediawiki install somewhere that you know about which I can have the test test against?

 * Thanks! -- (WT-en) Mark

 * OK. I've sent you username and password and other stuff. The namespace sounds great. As for testing, yeah, one of those perennial network-client-testing questions. I usually set up tests to use a configuration file or environment variable to identify the server, and skip the tests if no server was provided. --(WT-en) Evan 11:13, 11 Mar 2004 (EST)

Hey, looks like a really cool script. I will give it a try! -- (WT-en) mo 14:48, 8 Nov 2004 (EST)
 * Hm, I'm having difficulties getting any files downloaded. After I logged in (wix -d http://www.wikivoyage.org/en -u Mo -p 'password') I issued the command wix up Stirling.wiki, which prints Couldn't fetch Stirling.wiki from the server.HTTP get failed with: 404 at /usr/bin/wix line 71. Version is 0.14 installed via cpan script. Thanks for any help.

Security update makes Wix not function
With the Feb 4, 2005 security release of MediaWiki, Wix stops functioning as it does not fetch the wpEditToken value from the edit form. These versions (1.3.10 and 1.4beta6) are used in all of Wikimedia's wikis. wikipedia:User:kelvSYC

 * Hi kelvSYC. I'm expecting to upload a new version to CPAN today (CET) sometime.  I've got the problem with wpEditToken worked out (actually I received a contribution) but there's a slightly harder problem now with getting the various edit paths right for Wikivoyage.  This is caused by the way multilingualism is now handled here.  It's fine though, the new version should be on CPAN today. -- (WT-en) Mark 01:40, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

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User talk:MarkJaroski/WWW-Mediawiki-Client

I see this is in your TODO list, but an attempt to bump it up the queue: would there be any possibility of adding image upload in the near future? I'm trying to figure out how I could bulk upload country flags/maps to the Japanese Wikivoyage, but the whole "can't upload without logging in" thing is a pain. (WT-en) Jpatokal 00:13, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * OK, I'll bump it up. I don't know how soon I'll be able to work on it though. -- (WT-en) Mark 05:12, 14 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Never mind, I managed to whip pywikipediabot's upload script into shape. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:09, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Stupid characters
How do I use mvs with Rome/Campo de' Fiori? --(WT-en) elgaard 11:45, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * This worked:

mkdir Rome mvs update "Rome/Campo_de'_Fiori.wiki"
 * 1) make an edit

mvs commit -M -s reword "Rome/Campo_de'_Fiori.wiki"

 * -- (WT-en) Mark 12:21, 15 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Extra Linefeeds
Great program Mark! Using 0.28 and have it working except when I update an existing page, it adds linefeeds to the .wiki page and then when I commit the changes back to the server it places these linefeeds in. I am not sure where within the Client.pm this extra linefeed is being created. I can not see it in the do_update call. Any help would be appreciated. FYI, using Fedora linux as the mvs client OS.

 * -- ((WT-en) Smcnaught) 17:54, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

I resolved the issue by changing the following: sub _merge { my ($self, $filename, $ref, $server, $local) = @_; $ref = VCS::Lite->new('ref', "\n", "$ref\n"); $server = VCS::Lite->new('server', "\n", "$server\n"); $local = VCS::Lite->new('local', "\n", "$local\n"); return scalar $ref->merge($server, $local)->text("\n"); } to: (removing the linefeed - not fully tested but appears to be working properly now.) sub _merge { my ($self, $filename, $ref, $server, $local) = @_; $ref = VCS::Lite->new('ref', "\n", "$ref"); $server = VCS::Lite->new('server', "\n", "$server"); $local = VCS::Lite->new('local', "\n", "$local"); return scalar $ref->merge($server, $local)->text(""); } I am not sure if this is related to Windows installation vs linux but just wanted to put an update on the issue. ((WT-en) Smcnaught) 19:38, 10 April 2006 (EDT)

 * I think that the extra linefeed snuck in in the last verion. Thanks for the patch.  As for windows vs. Linux, I don't know, I've never tried it on Windows.  It probably won't work since I haven't been so careful about using portibility libs.  I figured that if someone wanted it to work on Windows they'd send a patch.  -- (WT-en) Mark 03:32, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

 * The patch by suppressing the carriage return doesn't fully pass the perl test of merge because the "conflict" lines are no more separated by a blank line as in the merged.wiki example file.

In order to pass, the merged.wiki should be patched itself. But I am not sure I should do that because the output is less elegant as it was. --(WT-en) NBrouard 12:07, 16 May 2006 (EDT)

 * OK. I'm having the same problem on a new machine.  I'll have a solution shortly. -- (WT-en) Mark 04:39, 17 May 2006 (EDT)

 * Mark, have you been able to resolve this issue? I would like to tie mvs to an ircbot and have it update the channel when certain wiki change but can't with this current bug.  I will dig into it tomorrow and see if I am able to resolve the issue but just wanted to follow up with you to see if there is anything new on your side.  I will update you if I have any success. -- ((WT-en) Smcnaught) 02:33, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

 * Yes! there's been a new version up on CPAN for about a month. Sorry I forgot to update this space.  -- (WT-en) Mark 04:51, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

Problems with german umlaute
Hi, i am just testing the mvs prog and i really would like to use it, but i am having problems with special characters (like german "Umlaute"). Instead of "fünftgrößte" mvs is making "fÃ¼nftgrÃ¶Ãte" out of it. Do you have any hints, why? I am using Linux, perl 5.8.0, libwww-perl 5.8.05, mvs 0.31 --84.57.23.194 13:04, 17 December 2006 (EST)

 * Is that in the article text or in the title?

 * If it's in the article text then the answer is pretty simple, you just have to have your editor encode the text as UTF-8. If it's in the title I'm not sure.  It definetly works for me though, and I use non-ascii characters all the time. -- (WT-en) Mark 17:39, 17 December 2006 (EST)

 * Thx for your answer. Today i updated my perl-system from the ground (cleaned the system of all perl modules and perl and reinstalled it again from source)). I am not sure, where the problem was, (maybe still an old, trouble-making module or bad perl installation....formerly when i installed perl, my system wasnt running in UTF-8 mode), but the problem ist gone and it is working now. So maybe this helps anyone, who has similar troubles.--84.57.47.130 04:13, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Bug in articles with a delete record ?
hallo, i think articles, which got deleted once, cannot get commits with mvs anymore. For a new task with my bot i tried to use your mediawiki software, but i got a problem. I wanted to update all population data in the infobox of the bavarian municipials (in the german wikipedia), but in around 200 articles (of ~2000 alltogether) the commit didnt work. mediawiki.errors file and Article names, which didnt work. --141.84.136.27 07:47, 27 June 2007 (EDT)


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User talk:(WT-en) Mark88

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

p.s., I deleted the images that you uploaded, you hadn't selected a license and they weren't all that appropriate for a travel website... but feel free to upload some pics of yourself fully clothed if you'd like to add them to your user page. Thanks! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 19:59, 1 March 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markash62

Hello, Markash62! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 10:10, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markblaster

Hello Markblaster! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please checkout Project:External links to better understand what (and how little) we link to other stuff. --(WT-en) Colin 22:35, 11 Jun 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markbrabers

Hello, Markbrabers! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 03:16, 12 January 2009 (EST).

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User talk:(WT-en) Markbrough

Hello Markbrough!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Than you for contributing to Cuzco, Arequipa, Peru, Uruguay, Singapore, and Argentina. However, please read the Project:Image policy; the images that you uploaded do not comply as they are too large and do not have copyright attributions. If you took the images, please add a note saying so, or advice where you obtained them from. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:54, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Hi huttite, I've changed the cusco image already (and maybe some others by the time you read this), scaled it down and added copyright information (they're all taken by me). However when I click on them they still come out the same size as the previous ones, though now pixelated because the real files are much smaller. I'm not sure why this is. Could you help me, please? many thanks -- (WT-en) Mark 14:32, 4 Apr 2005 (GMT/BST)

 * I think you've stumbled on a bug -- the image is intact if you right click to View Image, but the Image page shows it with the old size. It should still be OK to use as a thumb in content pages. (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:15, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Also, why are there both get in and get out sections? -- (WT-en) Mark 15:09, 4 Apr 2005 (GMT/BST)

 * "In" is meant for getting in, while "out" is meant for excursions around the city and nearby destinations. No, you're not the first one to be confused by this naming...  (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:15, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Surely then it would be better to simply call the two sections "getting there and away" and "getting around"? With the bug thing, would it be better if I just deleted the old image and replaced it? And how would I go about doing that? (WT-en) Mark 18:07, 4 Apr 2005 (GMT/BST)

 * The section for getting around the city is called "Get around". We don't use "Getting there and away" because that's Lonely Planet's line.

 * Regarding the bug, don't worry about it, you can still use the image. See example thumbnail to the right. (WT-en) Jpatokal 13:40, 4 Apr 2005 (EDT)

 * Your scaled down image of Cusco look fine to me now. I wonder if the issue was your browser cache not purging the old image or page correctly. The image also downloads a breeze over my dialup link now. Thanks again for your contributions. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:51, 5 Apr 2005 (EDT)

 * OK. Thanks for clarifying all that. Presumably it's generally accepted that there should be a loss in image quality in order to speed up downloads? Or is it more a case of server storage space? -- (WT-en) Markbrough 13:36, 5 Apr 2005 (EDT)

It's the page cache
Whenever you upload a new version of an image you need to edit and save the image page so as to refresh the cached version of the page. -- (WT-en) Mark 08:43, 5 Apr 2005 (EDT)

BTW.. I'm a little concerned that people might get us confused, but maybe there's an easy solution. You can make your signature much more easily by typing this:

-- ~

That way you don't have to worry about the date and time, and your posts will be signed by User:(WT-en) Markbrough instead of me, User:(WT-en) Mark. -- (WT-en) Mark 08:43, 5 Apr 2005 (EDT)

 * OK. Will do. Thanks very much for all your advice. -- (WT-en) Markbrough 13:36, 5 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markbsigler

Hello Markbsigler!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing Melbourne Beach. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:20, 5 Mar 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markbyrne

Welcome
Hello, Markbyrne! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Unfortunately most of your contributions have been removed as Wikivoyage has very strong policies against using the site for advertising a business. Project:Welcome, business owners has additional details that you might find useful. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 10:10, 23 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markcallahan

Welcome to Wikivoyage
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 05:50, 23 November 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markcwq

Hello, Markcwq! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 15:15, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) MarkDC

Welcome
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for creating all of these articles, but PLEASE have a look at Project:Article naming conventions. Articles are typically given names such as Tokyo or St. Petersburg (Russia) instead of "Someplace, Somewhere". In addition, please see the Project:Article templates - "Understand" is the equivalent of "About this place". -- (WT-en) Ryan (talk) 20:52, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Hey, another welcome! I assume that pages like Miyaki District should actually be redirects and not just blanks pages-- if so, I'll help you move them all. Anyone else know the situation with these destinations? I'd hate to lose any good info! Thanks (WT-en) Maj 21:37, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) MarkDilleyID

Hey Evan, Maj and folks, playing with the openID. Wondering what to do in these cases, where I want to use my nameo and it is already taken by me? Best, (WT-en) MarkDilley

hey mark
does email notification work when you're logged in with your open id? - ted

here's mine
I'm now logged in with my open id (WT-en) TedErnst 15:52, 10 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markemsmen

Hello Markemsmen! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) AHeneen 02:55, 1 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Mark Fraenkel

Hello, Mark Fraenkel! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please do not create articles on specific companies or attractions. See Project:What is an article? (WT-en) Pashley 02:02, 29 September 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markfrank

Hello and welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a look at Welcome, business owners and Project:Don't tout.

Wikivoyage is not meant to be a yellow pages, nor an advertising brochure, so please do not add listings for your business that have flowery, promotional language. Also do not list your listing more than once, and do not list it in a city other than the one it actually is in. Please avoid describing your hotel as being "located near prominent attractions." If it is across the street from a major attraction, say that—otherwise let your address do the talking. Do not list every mundane amenity your hotel offers—no one cares about your desk chairs or coffee makers, or the "high speed" internet. Don't ever use the words "spacious" or "luxurious."

Please don't add listings that lack any useful information, in particular price ranges for rooms. If there is something unique about your hotel, please include this in the description, but the pricing is the single most important bit of information that you can provide. We know that your prices fluctuate—this why we use price ranges, or at least a price bottom (not including discounted rates...) like "from $110." Third, you have to add the hotels to the price-sort categories of budget/mid-range/splurge—it's just not ok to leave them unsorted (alphabetical order applies too).

Please do not format your listings to improve your SEO. Your hotel's name does not need to be repeated in the description. Nor do you need to include the city, state, and zip code in the address field (since the article name tells you what town you're in). Likewise, don't describe the town in your listing—it should already be described in the rest of the article.

Back to the note about yellow pages. We don't want endless amounts of info-less hotel listings in our articles. If you want to add yours, make sure that the quality of your listing is better than the others present on the page already. That will increase the likelihood that we keep it.

Edits that do not follow these guidelines will be reverted. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 11:08, 22 August 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) MarkH

Hello MarkH! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Singapore. -- (WT-en) Huttite 11:07, 13 Apr 2004 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) MarkHB

Welcome
Hello MarkHB! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Feedback, etc.
Thanks for your contributions, especially cleaning up the Maine articles. There has an individual who is... problematic... and over the past year or so has created articles of dubious value for various cities in Maine, so it's great to see someone with local knowledge who can clean up articles for places that don't warrant their own entry. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:54, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

 * Thanks... I appreciate the feedback! -- (WT-en) MarkHB 03:18, 3 September 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markhollows

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki software look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your contributions to Luang Prabang! -- (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:25, 9 August 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markhoney

Hello Markhoney!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Iran and Tehran. -- (WT-en) Huttite 00:08, 16 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markinbough

Hello Markinbough! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

p.s., I replied to you question on my talk page – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:51, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Mark is gay

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Mark Jochim

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:08, 29 June 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markjohnjackson

Hello Markjohnjackson! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you have any questions ask me, please! Keep smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 19:35, 18 November 2008 (EST).

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User talk:(WT-en) Markjohnson

Hello Markjohnson!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to San Jose (California). -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:01, 12 Jan 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markjordahl

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contribution to Murchison Falls National Park! It looks like there's a lot of great information there, but you may want to take a look at the Project:Manual of style and maybe some other National Park articles to see how we usually format them. I think you may go into more detail than a travel guides needs on some of the history, ect. Let me know if you have any questions and thanks again! I look forward to reading more from you. (WT-en) Maj 23:37, 20 January 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) MarkMayhew

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

If you're interested, you may want to become a docent for New Orleans. --(WT-en) Evan 13:18, 25 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marknorthover

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 19:54, 3 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Markpap

Hello!

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I deleted your link from Zakynthos, because we don't link to external hotel search sites. Please see Project:External links and Where did the external links section go?. If, however, you know of individual hotels please insert them into the article. Thanks. - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 05:36, 27 June 2006 (EDT)

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Nice additions to Portland! -- (WT-en) Colin 23:47, 4 May 2004 (EDT)

Just a possible tip since you're so willing to get some of our more obscure countries going: Project:How to de-factbook a country page -- (WT-en) Colin 19:28, 6 May 2004 (EDT)

Hi and welcome! (WT-en) Caroline 15:57, 31 Jul 2004 (EDT)

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I'm Markuntomi! let's talk about traveling!

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User talk:(WT-en) Markus

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Herrnhut
Thanks for you contributions to the Herrnhut article. I have made some changes to the article for the second time (you undid them the first time) to make the article conform more closely to our manual of style. I see that no one has given you our standard welcome message yet, so I'm going to add it below as well. Please read through the policy pages links there, and if you have any questions, you can send me a message on my talk page. Thanks! (WT-en) texugo 00:14, 24 May 2011 (EDT)
 * Individual listings should be in listing format, not in prose.
 * Listings go in alphabetical order.
 * Certain things were in the wrong section. For example, tours and walking trails go under Do, supermarkets go under See, clinics go under Stay healthy, etc. If you are unsure where something belongs, please check out Project:Where you can stick it.
 * Sections don't need to be broken into subsections unless they start getting up around 10 items or more.

Welcome message
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Addresses and phone numbers
Hi again. As you probably noticed, I added a few phone numbers, addresses and so on to some listings on the Herrnhut article. Noticing the changes you made just now, I have a question. On most of the German websites I checked to get the info, the phone numbers contain a slash "/" in them. Looking at how they were formatted, like 035873/33604, I assumed that you have to dial all the numbers there to get through, and the slash was just the typical German way of indicating that. When we use the slash in English, XXXX/YYYY, it means either XXXX or YYYY but not both, so I changed it to a hyphen "-" instead. So, my question is, in these phone numbers, do you have to dial all the numbers, or is it an either/or situation? If you must dial all of them, I think it is better to use a hyphen to avoid confusion. (WT-en) texugo 12:57, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

 * Hi, yes the Germans list numbers with the slash but you have to dial all of them. I guess if this is for English/non-Germans however, the dash is less confusing (e.g. I only found out that you had to dial all numbers after arriving in Germany). —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Markverma71 (talk • contribs)
 * One more tip: On talk pages such as this one, you should sign your posts by typing ~, and it will automatically fill in your name and the date, etc. We can also thread the conversations to make them easier to use by starting each new post with one more colon at the beginning than the post before, so that it indents, making it easier to read. Thanks! (WT-en) texugo 13:13, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Thanks
Hi. I just want to let you know that I've noticed and appreciated your contributions. All the best, (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 19:55, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

No worries - I've just discovered Wiki editing and it's great fun...and a little, can I say, addictive :-)(WT-en) Markverma71 20:00, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

Awesomeness, and a couple of questions
Wow, you are really turning Herrnhut into a kick-ass article-- thanks again for your contributions! I've upgraded it from outline to usable statues but I'd say it's getting close to guide status. A few questions/comments: Seriously, keep up the great work! (WT-en) texugo 09:39, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
 * Maybe you haven't (or maybe you have) noticed that you (consciously or unconsciously) use a lot of parentheticals in your writing (and I do mean a lot). In most of those cases, the parentheses are unnecessary so I removed them and/or adapted the syntax to make smoother prose.
 * Be sure not to include any links to Facebook, blogs, or Wikipedia. There is already a link to the Wikipedia Herrnhut page in the lefthand toolbar. Incidentally this article is, awesomely, already more informative than the Wikipedia article.
 * Is the situation with English speakers considerably different from other towns in the area? If not, I'd suggest that the Talk section is not needed.
 * Have you considered writing an Understand section? It sounds like an interesting enough place that you might want to give a kind of overview at the beginning.
 * The Get in/By train section is dominated with instructions for how to get to Löbau, which has no article. Perhaps you know enough about Löbau to start an article for it so we can move a lot of this information there?
 * Similarly the Get in/By bus section could benefit from moving some of that info to articles for Varnsdorf and Liberec and simplifying what is written here to reflect travel from those places.
 * Are there any pubs/bars?
 * Are there any regular hotels? Other places to stay?
 * The Get out section looks to be full of potential articles. Maybe you could start some of those articles and then shorten the blurbs here a bit? (I am secretly trying to get you hooked on Wikivoyage editing by suggesting more places where we need your help!)

 * Texugo,
 * I've always been a parentheses freak for some reason (all the way back to school)...I agree wholeheartedly with you (as I did with my English Lit. teacher back in the day)...Very hard to break the habit of a lifetime - but I guess that's what objective oversight editors such as yourself are for...

 * Thx for tip re: Facebook - learning each step of the way.

 * Re: other towns...well, I suspect the English level of this town is higher (and significantly so) than other towns. This is a pretty rural area and arguably the least-touched by Western cosmopolitanism thus far (in the former East Germany). While younger people (under 30) are generally English speakers to some degree, many older people have very little English as they were not allowed to learn it under Communism and had to learn Russian instead. This town, because it a) draws large numbers of foreign religious pilgrims (esp. from the USA) and b) has a foreign missions agency base in a neighbouring village filled with anywhere from 150-250 mostly North American or else English as second language speakers (who frequent local businesses like the Kebab restaurant - arguably they keep the Kebab restaurant afloat), means visitors to the town can be assured they will swim not sink due to lack of German skills. So, happy to remove it but wanted to explain my reasoning for putting it in.

 * Re: Löbau - just today I thought of moving on to other regional towns (as I added links to the Get Out section)...so it is on the cards (I added more towns to the Upper Lusatia section to begin the process)...

 * Re: pubs/bars - arguably due to the strong Moravian ascetic influence, the only booze in town is either the liquor store, supermarkets or else bar areas of the restaurants...closest actual bar is the one I listed (part of the cultural centre in the nieghbouring village)...Similarly, there are a couple of other places to stay in neighbouring villages (e.g. a camping one) but I wasn't sure where to draw the line with including these (the boundaries of villages are a little amorphous and Herrnhut only just got responsibility for a couple of these neighbouring villages in terms of local government [e.g. Großhennersdorf] at the start of this year). I figured I'd focus on the places to stay in Herrnhut proper and, maybe later, expand to include the 2-3 other ones a little farther out in those other villages...
 * (WT-en) Markverma71 11:21, 25 May 2011 (EDT)
 * OK. If it's unique, it's unique, but I do think the Talk section looks quite weird in its place without an Understand section above it. If there are other places to stay not far away that are not religion-affiliated, I would go ahead and list them. I as a traveller would not stay at those, so that means there is only one option for me. Bars, well.., if there aren't any there aren't any-- in a town with so many sights, it might be good to state explicitly that there aren't many watering holes, or people may think the article is simply incomplete. Or, if the adjacent villages have pubs, you might go into those. And yeah! Please plunge forward with any other articles you can. Thanks! (WT-en) texugo 11:42, 25 May 2011 (EDT)

Fair points re: places to stay...I think while most of the clientele who come to these places are religious, some are not...should I put something to that effect in the entries (so people understand they can stay in said places without fear of someone attempting to Bible bash them)?

Just added an Understand section. Trying to convey a sense of the town's history and culture without getting too 'preachy' or anything like that...but that's the town in a nutshell, in all honesty...it does have a bit of a different feel to other local villages and one has to credit the Moravian movement for that...

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User talk:(WT-en) Marletbadeo

Eastern Visayas
In response to your post on my talk page: From the traveller's point of view it is not important how the government administratively designates communities. Whether they are towns, municipalities, cities, metropoles, or villages, we have a section header called "Cities" that we use, which contains a single list of no more than 9, with hub city or capital of the region first, followed by an alphabetized list of the other 8. Feel free to put as much info as you want in the descriptions, but please don't stray from our article templates or create extra sections like "Other cities". If you have any questions, please let me know.(WT-en) Texugo 01:28, 24 January 2011 (EST)

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Hi! All your edits have ben reverted because you violated our policies. Please read don't tout, wbo and only list your business once. (WT-en) Jc8136 08:23, 17 November 2011 (EST)

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Please use this page if you want to contact me

Welcome
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So, I'm looking forward to your good contributions to Marseille article. (What did I win? :-) Anyway, I've removed the template from the top of your user page (that's more appropriate for a talk page), but of course you are welcome to add it back if putting that wasn't an accident in the first place. – (WT-en) Vidimian 13:48, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

 * Nope, no googling. Just pronouncing it in my mind was enough. I've checked Wikipedia article beforehand, though, just to make sure. But "mɑχˈsɛjɐ" provided there was of course nowhere near as easy as "mars-say-yeah". :-) – (WT-en) Vidimian 11:32, 14 October 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Martha121

Hi! Don't tout and see external links. (WT-en) jan 04:13, 20 July 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Martijn

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Thanks for your work on Vancouver/Kitsilano so far.

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Thank you for contributing to Munich/City Center and Sofia. -- (WT-en) Huttite 05:11, 14 Dec 2005 (EST)

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Hello!

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Please have a look at the Project:Article templates and Project:Section headers before removing or changing any section headings - thanks. ~ 203.144.143.4 22:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)

recent additions
Praja a Mare looks great but there is more to Italy than Praja a Mare and such dominant photos cannot be accepted. Please note that GET OUT sections refer more to day trips you can make from the location of the article. Praja a Mare is too far away from the Amalfi Coast or even Sicily for a day trip. If Praja a Mare could be considered for that section what about all the places between Amalfi and Praja a Mare? It would make no sense to list them all. Thanks (WT-en) Shep 15:55, 2 February 2010 (EST)

hi there. 150 KM AWAY CAN BE EASILY MADE IN A DAY TRIP. actually from Praja people do day trip to Pompei very often. so i dont get what the problem is: THE PICTURE IS TOO BIG? FINE, i will just upload a smaller one. IF I CAN'T UPLOAD A PICTURE, THEN YOU SOULD LINK ME TO GUIDELINES WHERE IT SAYS I CANNOT UPLOAD A PICTURE.

don't wanna bother anyone.... just sticking to what i think is right, and if you can prove it's wrong, i will change it!

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Thank you for contributing to Sydney and Sydney/Inner West. --(WT-en) Huttite 17:37, 5 Jan 2006 (EST)

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Welcome!
Welcome, Martin. I am glad you made it to WikiTravel. -- (WT-en) Nils 12:34PM Jan 9th, 2004

hehe

Hamburg Photo
Hi Martin,

Wenn Du Zeit und Lust hast koenntest Du ein Foto von HAM beisteuern. Rathaus und/oder Hafen bieten sich an.

-- Nils

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User talk:(WT-en) Martinlock

Welcome Martinlock to Wikivoyage. We have a introductory page for business owners--please take a minute to read it before going on with your edits.

I unfortunately had to delete Kolkata business budget hotels India. Please see Project:External links and Project:What is an article?  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 05:26, 20 December 2007 (EST)

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Welcome
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Thank you for contributing Bed and breakfasts. Please note, however, that the content appears to be from http://www.gazebo-victoria.com/romantic.html. Unless you wrote the original content we will unfortunately have to remove this contribution since it can not legally be used here (see Project:Copyleft). If you are the author of the original source simply leave a note on Talk:Bed and breakfasts indicating so and then all is well. Thanks again, and hopefully we'll see more contributions from you. -- (WT-en) Ryan 13:43, 16 June 2006 (EDT)

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Hey thanks for all the recently added info about visiting Roma population centers! Really interesting information, which I don't think I've seen before in a travel guide. One thing, though, would you please take a look over our external links policy—we've got pretty strict rules about which types of links are allowed and how they are supposed to be formatted. Anyway, keep up the good work! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:47, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

 * Also, please take a look at Project:Article naming conventions. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:51, 26 June 2008 (EDT)

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Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for your contributions to Kiel. Unfortunately, I had to rollback your edits to Amsterdam because we dont link to external restaurant / travel sites. See out Project:External links for guidelines. Hope this doesn't put you off!

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Do the comments you contributed to County Cork apply to all of the county or just West Cork? You may like to create a new article for West Cork if they only apply to West Cork. -- (WT-en) Huttite 19:36, 24 Apr 2004 (EDT) I guess it's West Cork specifically. I'm not sure how far to keep breaking out new pages.

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Welcome
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Thank you for your contributions, but please see my comment on Talk:Twelfelfontein, Organ Pipes & Burnt Mountain - the article seems to be mis-named (see Project:Article naming conventions and should probably be moved using the "Move" tab. Thanks, and hopefully we'll see more from you! -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:43, 16 March 2006 (EST)

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Welcome
Hello, Martynaza! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contributions to Wieliczka, but please note that per the notice on the English Special:Upload page, ALL images must be uploaded to commons:Special:Upload, which is the shared image repository for all language versions of Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:58, 7 February 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Martyncookraf

Hello Martyncookraf! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) AHeneen 16:27, 27 November 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marvinbarretto

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage and thanks for your contributions so far. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 00:50, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marxz

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

--(WT-en) NJR_ZA 04:30, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Mary

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 02:02, 1 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Mary Bored

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your edits to Winnipeg! (WT-en) Maj 21:48, 17 January 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marybridges

Welcome
Hello, Marybridges! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 05:50, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) MaryJones

Nice try
If you really do want to contribute travel knowledge, do, but don't use your user page to try to sell Vitamin D pills. If you do it again, you will be permanently banned, so if you aren't really a spambot, please introduce yourself.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 03:28, 23 December 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Maryk

Welcome to Wikivoyage
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 22:20, 25 November 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marykateworkman

Welcome
Hello, Marykateworkman! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contributions to Lake Tahoe, but as noted in the comment at the top of the "Eat" section, listings for individual restaurants should go in the articles for the cities/towns in the Lake Tahoe region, not in the Lake Tahoe article itself. A guiding principle of Wikivoyage articles is that listings for individual businesses should be placed in the most specific article possible, which means that (in general) businesses aren't listed in region articles. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:57, 7 April 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Mary Motamedi

Hello, Mary Motamedi! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Nice work on Lakeville (Massachusetts)! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:08, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

 * Please pay special attention to the manual of style linked above and be aware that if you do not adhere to this, your edits may all be reverted. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:50, 9 April 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marynovateca

Welcome
Please read Project:Welcome, business owners and Project:Don't tout. Current policy is that mass updates of hotels are reverted when those updates use incorrect formatting and promotional language. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:58, 9 December 2009 (EST)

 * Thanks making the necessary changes in your listings. One additional request is that addresses should not include city and country - if an article is La Unión then any hotels or other businesses listed for that article are obviously in that city, so only a street address (and optionally directions) are needed. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 16:41, 9 December 2009 (EST)

 * One additional thing I noticed - you are adding links to Spanish language pages for these hotels. Wikivoyage is an English language site, so links should go to the English language page. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:23, 9 December 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Marzooq

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. We have a welcome page just for tourism professionals that you should check out. I look forward to your contributions about the Maldives!

Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) Maj 21:00, 26 December 2006 (EST)

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