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Talk:Cameroon

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Cameroon/CIA World Factbook 2002 import. -- (WT-en) Huttite 22:37, 27 Mar 2005 (EST)

cameroon a personal and social history. a white european childs view
i was born in london in 1950, my father worked as an engineer for fyffes group plc, and i moved to live in likomba, s.cameroon, in 1959. my father had previously worked in mechanical engineering after he left the royal mechanical and electrical engineers, after the second world war. he had experience of road building, logistics and automotive vehicles as a transport staff seargent engineer, he could tool and fit mechanical parts and was skilled in team building and manpower. his skills were useful to the company, which was developing infrastructure, transport systems, schools, farms, and banana plantations, we arrived in tiko port, or was it victoria, by banana boat from england, and settled into a privileged life with servants in a canadian style stilt house built amongst others in a compound surrounded by barbed wire and a golf course. we were not permitted beyond the boundary line of the compound as children, but often sneaked through to talk with the cameroonians and see how they experienced their lives. i have wonderful warm memories of the kindness of the people, joyful, exuberant and of such a friendly and compassionate dispositon. my friends were mechanics, drivers, plant biologists, teachers, night watchmen with dark wooden sticks, and the wildlife which wasnt threatening, for example the poisonous black and green mambas and spiders the size of dinner plates! my senses were awoken at such a young age (9) to such pungent fragrances, fruit, flower, woodsmoke, dried banana, frangipani and mango, all mixed together in a medley of humidity, heat and growth. the laterite lava colour of red covered everything, tin roof, leaf, and was especially excellent as a compact road surface! and when the rains came from the tropical rainforest, we played washing ourselves of the oppressive heat. the red escarpment road towards mount cameroon was dangerous, we often heard and saw giant man diesel timber lorries which had jacknifed and come to a sticky end, the drivers would replace the steel cab doors with wooden ones. tied with rope, they could escape the 20-30ton payload and danger by jumping!

Regions
Here's my idea of breaking up the country into regions: A few references: demographics, geography, map. Perhaps better names, but otherwise I'm fond of these as regions.(WT-en) AHeneen 14:56, 27 January 2010 (EST)
 * Northern Cameroon(Nord, & Extreme Nord)—part of the Sahel; savanna & even a little desert; French-speakers; Muslim; predominately Fulani
 * Adamaoua( Adamaoua)—highlands/low mountain range that forms the boundary between Northern Cam. and the rest of the country; French-speaking; mix of Muslim peoples;
 * Northwest Highlands(northern 2/3rds of Sud-Ouest, Nord-Ouest, Quest)—forms the mountainous part of the country; highlands forests; home to "grassfielders" peoples and the famously scenic "Ring Road";mix of English & french speakers; mix of religions
 * Coastal Cameroon(the roughly 100km-wide plains along the coast...southern 1/3rd of Sud-Ouest, Littoral, western 1/4th of Sud, Centre from about Eseka westwards)—tropical forests with a very wet climate; home to "tropical forest peoples" (of course, Douala is a mix of every Cameroonian culture); English-speaking; Protestant
 * South Cameroon Plateau( everything else)—high plateau in the center/southeast; French/English speaking; mix of peoples; predominately Catholic

 * Beautiful; I'll get to work. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:23, 27 January 2010 (EST)

 * Great looking map Peter. Impressive detail on the tracks especially. Out of interest, was that created from a UN PDF? I have had a lot of difficulty with these being almost impossibly slow to manipulate in Inkscape. And a tiny proofing comment - it is Biafra, not Biofra.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:54, 27 January 2010 (EST)

 * Yes, I've been creating them all from UN pdfs lately, and on this one, I didn't have to trace a single path. This pdf was certainly big enough to really bog down my computer memory, at least until I deleted the extraneous stuff and then vacuumed defs (from the file menu). Have you tried importing UN pdfs for really tiny countries? Maybe you would have more luck then. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:39, 28 January 2010 (EST)

 * I have tried fairly small countries yes, and set the definition to rough. Still problems, even on my new notebook which has an insanely high amount of RAM. I may be doing something wrong or just not tolerant enough of chugging slowness. A fairly huge PDF like Nigeria is actually no faster or slower for me than small one like Burundi. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 21:50, 28 January 2010 (EST)

 * I know I'm new to this site but I've been living in Cameroon for two years and this partition doesn't make any sense to me at all. I think this categorization neglects important distinctions: Anglophone (Southwest/Northwest) versus Francophone (everybody else); developed (Center) versus very underdeveloped (East). If you say something like "Northwest Highlands" to someone who has been in Cameroon, you will get blank looks (and certainly categorizing Bafoussam in the "Northwest Highlands" is very confusing!). Instead I have heard people talk about the Grand North (Adamawa and up), the Grand South (everything else, except maybe without the East); the Grand West (Center, Northwest, Southwest, West, Littoral, and sometimes South); Anglophone Cameroon, Francophone Cameroon. The Grand West is predominantly Christian; the Grand North is predominantly Muslim. I'm not sure about the East but I would have guessed predominantly Muslim. The Grand West is developed; the rest is not. Someone visiting the country might want to limit themselves to the areas where one language is spoken, or where development is more/less. I don't think this categorization supports that, and in fact I think hinders it as compared with just listing all ten regions with their characteristics. (WT-en) ethan.glasser.camp 10:25, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

I am sorry but this is incorrect. Northern Cameroon compromises of Adamawa, the north, and the Extreme North. These three regions are collectively a geopolitical region in Cameroon structured under the Fulbe Islamic administration. Adamawa is predominantly Muslim and Fulani. Please reconsider this because this is quite disrespectful as the Cameroonian society and administration does not recognize Adamawa as a "geographic" region on its own. As the commenter above has stated, Northern Cameroon is predominantly Muslim and it translates to "Grand Nord" in French which starts from Adamawa all the way to the Extreme North. There are Christians in these, but the Muslim religion is the most dominant in these three regions. —The preceding comment was added by Cameroon121 (talk • contribs)

Tours moved from "Get around"
I removed these listings both per the tour listing policy and because I don't think we want tour agencies that do fall under our exception rules at any level higher than the city where they are headquartered. However, I wasn't so supremely confident in my decision that I didn't think it might be possible for someone to glean some use out of this list, though I do doubt it:

Tour Operators in Cameroon:
 * BERUDEP Is a local organization that offer volunteer opportunities for responsible travellers. They do have very experienced guides and can arrange for car rental at a local price.

 * Heritage Tours Cameroon Heritage Tours offers experienced guides and activities that range from eco-tourism to safari-tourism  to cultural tourism and to volunteer activities and homestays. Heritage Tours can arrange tours through Cameroon’s equatorial rainforests in search of the pygmies and gorillas, through the plantations and cultural manifestations of Cameroon diverse ethnic groups to the north to explore Cameroon pristine Safari parks. Heritage Tours offers free tourist information: Heritage Tours holds a database of local information with up to date prices, opening and closing times, seasonal activities etc.

 * SunnFeeling Tours

 * CamTours - Cameroon Tours and Safaris

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I think, on balance, you're right.
 * I do have a, perhaps regrettable, "bleeding heart" tendency to allow local, "good cause and they need every help they can get" type listings such as BERUDA (formerly Berudep), where the stated objective is as worthy as "The vision of The Belo Rural Development Project is to eradicate poverty and raise the living standards of the rural population of Cameroon's North West." --W. Frankemailtalk 09:53, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Well, their listing doesn't indicate how they give "added value" as defined by this site, but if they do give added value and they're in the Northwest Highlands, there's an article about that region, but I don't see an article about Belo, if that's a town. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:05, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

"Continued forced labour"?
From "Understand/History":

''The German Empire claimed the territory as the colony of Kamerun in 1884 and began a steady push inland. With the defeat of Germany in World War I, Kamerun became a League of Nations mandate territory and was split into French Cameroun and British Cameroons in 1919. The French carefully integrated the economy of Cameroun with that of France and improved the infrastructure with capital investments, skilled workers, and continued forced labour.''

Three problems: (1) "Forced labour" should be called slavery. (2) It is never directly stated that the Germans practiced slavery in Kamerun, so "continued forced labour" is a non-sequitur. (3) It is never stated how long the French continued to practice slavery. Were they still enslaving Camerouniens after World War II? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:59, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Statement above was copied and pasted from Wikipedia Cameroon --Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:53, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Unfortunate, but my remarks stand. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Ambazonia
Is this an official name. How widely is it used in English-speaking areas of the country? User:79.67.86.147 and anyone else who knows, please comment. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:14, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I have no direct knowledge, but there is a Wikipedia article that appears to have been largely written by sympathizers. Ground Zero (talk) 12:15, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * FYI: This IP's user contributions involve adding the name Ambazonia to every article about the English-speaking part of Cameroon. I don't know if that's a good idea or not, and I suspect but don't know that the name itself is controversial. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:26, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * A propos: w:Talk:Ambazonia. That entire post seems relevant. I think we should mention the word but indicate that the word itself is a focus of conflict, so travelers should be aware that some English-speakers in the country use it, but should avoid using it themselves. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Deutsche Welle, Foreign Policy magazine, and BBC use 'Ambazonia', but only in reference to the separatist movement, or in quotation marks. I haven't found any articles on the current situation. Ground Zero (talk) 15:01, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Here's a story from Al-Jazeera 20 Mar 2020 that says the attacks are still going on. Ground Zero (talk) 15:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you. So how should we handle these edits? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:08, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

"Ambazonia" is only recognized by secessionist groups. Most people from the English-speaking regions do not consider themselves as such. You guys should please do enough research before publishing your information. —The preceding comment was added by Cameroon121 (talk • contribs)

 * Who is "you guys"? In this case, "you guys" is User:79.67.86.147, but I'm not sure you understand what a wiki is. "You guys" is everyone. Everyone can edit articles. So you are one of "you guys". I'd ask a few things from you: (1) Please sign all your posts by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row and the end of each one, so it's easier to see what you contributed; (2) please provide some references in talk page threads to back up your opinion; (3) please wait until you've convinced a consensus before making changes. Those of us who don't know the situation on the ground want the articles on this site to be accurate, so just give us some external evidence to support your statements, and that way, you'll convince other users to support the fixes you want to make. All you need is a little patience after that. Thanks a lot! Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Camiguin

Filipino Copyright
From wikipedia:

''Aside from government documents, no work of the Philippine government, as well as the works of government-owned and/or controlled corporations, can be copyrighted (images, documents, and the like). However, prior approval is needed if a government work will be used for making a profit (most notably the Philippine constitution).''

However, I haven't read the deleted content (WT-en) Sertmann 23:09, 10 November 2008 (EST)

 * The notice at the bottom of the page at http://www.camiguin.gov.ph/, where the content was copied, reads "© Provincial Government of Camiguin 2004". (WT-en) Texugo 23:16, 10 November 2008 (EST)

 * I did notice, but i'm quite confident that is illegal - or just an ill informed webdesigner or official. No big deal, just thought i'd bring it up - might be better suited for the country talk page anyway (WT-en) Sertmann 23:19, 10 November 2008 (EST)

Other destinations
Shouldn't another island be in "Go next"? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:11, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Campania

It is not clear to me why this could be a copyvio. What content would it be? --(WT-en) elgaard 20:44, 23 December 2006 (EST)

it's OK for you to use the content —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 74.254.4.65 (talk • contribs) 26 Dec 2006

Work to do
I don't have the time or energy right now, but the most obvious tasks to me are:

(1) An "Understand" section is needed, and should touch on some of the very rich history of the area, at least from the time of Greek colonization to recent times.

(2) The "Drink" section should be divided into different subsections. For example, Campanian wines are very well-respected by connoisseurs today, and I also tried a very good and interesting mineral water that's naturally lightly carbonated and tastes of minerals from the slopes of Vesuvius. It's not so easy to read the section, currently, with all the information about different drinks in a single paragraph.

(3) "Get in" is obviously needed and should mention Naples Airport, at least the main train line from Rome and major Autostrade.

(4) In "Get around", the "By boat" subsection should mention ferries from Naples and Sorrento to outlying islands, for example (Procida, Ischia, Capri and probably some I'm forgetting).

(5) "Stay safe" should mention crime and the possibility of an eruption.

(6) There are probably more specialties that should be mentioned in "Eat" - both savory and sweet - and certainly, the prevalence of seafood is worth a mention.

I'm sure there are other things I haven't thought of. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:03, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Camping in the United States

Hmm, as I understand it, camping is allowed without a permit on all National Forest & BLM lands unless it's explicitly stated otherwise for a particular site. Am I wrong? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:39, 24 June 2008 (EDT)

 * I did some review of the sources I had, and you are right. I'll fix the article. --(WT-en) JohnKarp 00:17, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

 * Glad to hear that, since I've done my fair share of National Forest/BLM squatting! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:24, 25 June 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Campo Grande

I can't figure out why this is titled Campo Grande (City) when it's not ambiguous (no other destination with the same name) and there isn't even an article named Campo Grande. I'm moving it to just Campo Grande then. (WT-en) Rmx 17:19, 18 Oct 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Campo Largo

There was a much longer version of this page, but in Portuguese. I've preserved it at Talk:Campo largo/Portuguese version (WT-en) Hypatia 23:33, 11 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I'll see if I can't get around to translating that. (WT-en) Texugo 00:03, 12 October 2007 (EDT)
 * 95% done. (WT-en) Texugo 02:59, 12 October 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Campo largo/Portuguese version

Campo Largo is a city in Brazil - Paraná. "Capital da Louça"

See
Praça da Polônia Foi construída no ano do 1º centenário de Campo Largo e homenageia os imigrantes poloneses. Possui playground, bancos de descanso e arvores.

Praça Getulio Vargas Tendo passado por reformas, foi reinaugurada em setembro de 2003. Além de abrigar o novo Museu de Campo Largo e o Memorial dos 500 anos. Possui jardins, bancos, telefone público, também é o local aonde acontece uma vez por mês à feira noturna.

Praça Atílio Almeida Barbosa Foi inaugurada no ano do sesquicentenário da independência do Brasil em 15 de outubro de 1972. Local onde se situa a Igreja Matriz de Nossa Senhora da Piedade. Possui bancos sorveterias, o local é arborizado.

Praça João Antonio da Costa Local arborizado abriga o Chafariz de Campo Largo. Possui bancos, jardins floridos.

Praça do III Milênio Construída em homenagem à chegada do III Milênio. Possui bancos e jardins, além de uma bandeira do Brasil e de uma Fonte. Localização: Av. Padre Natal Pigatto, próximo à entrada da Cidade.

Parque da Lagoa Grande Possui um portal de entrada em madeira e instalações como: ciclovia, churrasqueiras, banheiro público, mirante, palco para eventos, duas pracinhas, campo de futebol e playground.Conhecido como Lagoa Encantada. Localização: Rua Caetano Munhoz da Rocha, próximo a Br 277 – Ouro Verde.

Parque Municipal do Cambuí Situa-se no local denominado granja, a 3,4 Km da sede do município. Possui uma área de 180 há, que já foi sede de uma estação enológica. Possui ruínas da primeira escola e do primeiro posto de saúde do município. Localização: Rua Estação de Enologia, 15 – Granja.

Parque Histórico do Mate É composto por um barbaqual, um monjolo, um galpão e uma cancha que retratam o sistema tradicional de produção de erva-mate e sua influencia nos hábitos, cultural e econômico do Paraná. Possui painéis que retratam desde o descobrimento da erva-mate até sua atual utilização, com fotos de ilustração de todo o processo.Dentro do Parque possui 31,7 hectares de extensa área verde com árvores nativas, lago e área de lazer. O Parque é uma unidade da Secretaria de Estado da Cultura, ligada ao museu Paranaense. Localização: Br 277, km 111 – Rondinha. Visitação: terça a domingo das 9:30 às 17:30 (só com agendamento) Informações: (41) 3304-3300

Estância Hidromineral Ouro Fino Área de lazer construída aproximadamente 1.000.000m2, no caminho encontra-se um sinuoso trecho de 14 Km entre pinheiros e hortênsias até alcançar a estância hidromineral ouro fino. Possui piscinas de água mineral alcalino terrosa, com temperatura ambiente de 19ºC, piscinas de água mineral corrente com toboágua, playground, quiosques para churrascos ao ar livre, uma ampla área verde para piqueniques, capela, bosques, estacionamento, lago e cascatas. Além de instalações disponíveis aos turistas, possui ainda sanitários, lanchonetes, butiques de souvenir, correios e artigos de primeiros socorros. Visitação: de terça a domingo das 8:00h às 18:00h, onde é cobrado um ingresso. Localização: Estrada de Ouro Fino, s/n. O acesso é feito pela Br 277 no caminho de Bateias. Informações: (41) 3321-3000 – www.aguasourofino.com.br.

Salto Boa Vista Com 38 metros, consiste na maior queda d’água de campo Largo e possibilita a prática de rapel. Visitação: Sábado e Domingo das 8h às 17h ou com agendamento. Localização: Estrada do cerne, Km 34 – Bateias. Informações: (41) 3648-1346

Estância Hidromineral Águas da Serra Possui 02 chalés, campo de futebol, quadra de vôlei, playground, trilha, restaurante, e 8 açudes para pesca. Disponibiliza passeios a cavalo e comidas tradicionais. Localização: estrada da faxina s/n Informações: (41) 3669-6076

Serra da Endoença O local proporciona uma visão panorâmica da região, possibilitando até a visualização da cidade de Curitiba. Apesar de ser muito procurado para realização de trekking ou mountain bike, o local ainda não possui infra-estrutura adequada. Localização: O acesso dá-se pelas estradas de Bateias e do Cerne. Localiza-se próximo ao Distrito de Bateias.

Escarpa Devoniana A Escarpa Devoniana tem início no vale do rio Iguaçu, no Sul do Estado, entre os municípios de Lapa e Campo Largo e estende-se para além do rio Itararé, já no estado de São Paulo. È responsável pela divisão entre o 1º e 2º Planaltos Paranaenses, sendo um local de incrível beleza cênica, onde se encontram canyons e grutas. Algumas empresas realizam atividades esportivas e de aventura no terreno acidentado da Escarpa. Localização: O acesso é feito pela Estrada da Faxina.

Rio Açungui Cortando parte do município, esse é o único rio da região que tem sua foz no litoral do estado. Apesar de não possuir infra-estrutura turística, parte do rio é muito utilizado para a realização de rafting. Além disso, o rio é utilizado para a capitação de água e geração de energia, sendo que sua bacia aproximadamente 65% da área do município. Localização: Na porção sudoeste do município, no distrito da Sede.

Represa Passaúna A área lindeira á represa possui potencial interessante para a prática de esportes náuticos (vela e remo). Alguns empreendimentos estão sendo desenvolvidos no seu entorno, devido, além da beleza cênica da região, à grande ocorrência de mananciais que permitem atividades de piscicultura e pesque-pague. Localização: Situada entre os municípios de Curitiba, Campo Largo e Araucária. Floresta Nacional do Açungui Floresta de preservação e multiuso, onde há resinagem, criação de abelhas, coleta de sementes, exploração de madeira e atividades de educação ambiental. Possui 728 hectares, sendo que 400ha são de Araucária planaltos acerca de 50 anos, 15ha de Pinus, 2 há de Eucalipto e 200ha de mata nativa secundária  com bracatinga. A administração é realizada pelo IBAMA. O local só pode ser visitado com um guia acompanhante. Localização: Situado nos Distritos de Três Córregos, distante 50 km da Sede. Informações: (41) 3322-5125 Ramal 220.

Buy
Rota da Louça

Projeto elaborado pela iniciativa privada com a proposta de mostrar, tanto a comunidade local quanto para visitantes do Município de Campo Largo, todo o processo da fabricação de cerâmica e de porcelana. O roteiro inclui visita a duas fábricas que possibilitam uma diferenciação, tanto entre os produtos e também entre os processos de fabricação de cerâmica e de porcelana. Além disso os visitantes podem almoçar em uma chácara e aproveitar um café colonial no final da tarde. Vários produtos podem ser comprados nas lojas de cerâmica inseridas no roteiro.

Eat
Antonini Localização: Rua João Batista Valões, 2100 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3393-3636

Pizza Park Localização: Rua Dom Pedro II, 1516. Informações: (41) 3393-3001

Pizzaria Colônia Localização: Rua Oswaldo Cruz, 1576 - Centro. Informações: (41)

Abaré Pizza Bar (Sanduicheria) Localização: Rua Rodolfo Castagnoli, 1200 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3292-2772

O Pescador Localização: Rua Sete de Setembro, 1342. Informações: (41)3292-6281

Dom Supremo Localização: Rua Dom Pedro II, 948 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3393-5049 e 3032-1591

Carloto´s Localização: Marechal Deodoro, 636. Informações: (41) 3292-6381

Jef Restaurante Localização: Rua Rocha Pombo, 850 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3392-4179 Sabor e Equilíbrio Localização: Rua Oswaldo Cruz,1006 Informações: (41) 3292-6372

Mister kuka Localização: Rua XV de Novembro – sala 41 – Shopping XV Informações: (41) 3392-3844

Restaurante e Churrascaria Tabaldi Localização: Br 277 – km 118 s/n – Bom Jesus – anexo ao Hotel Nortesul Informações: (41)

Churrascaria O Laçador Localização: Rua Airton Senna da Silva, 2404 – Trevo de Bateias. Informações: (41) 3032-1293 e 3032-1294

Churrascaria Quinta Localização: Br 277, Km, 17,5 – Guabiroba. Informações: (41) 3392-2033

Churrascaria Gaúcho Localização: Br 277 – km 116 nº 2336 – Vila Nova Informações: (41) 3393-3117

Estrela de Prata Localização: Br 277 – Km 120 nº 5025 – Bom Jesus Informações: (41) 3392-4847

Sleep
Hotel Campo Largo Possui 39 apartamentos (20 apartamentos em construção prontos em 2 meses), todas com banheiros privativos, tv a cabo, telefone com discagem direta e conexão para a internet, frigobar e ducha a gás, sala de estar com lareira, lavanderia e garagem. Café da manhã colonial. Localização: rua Domingos cordeiro, 844 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3392-2763 – www.hotelcampolargo.com.br

Hotel Fabru Possui 35 leitos e lavanderia, sem garagem interna, sem telefone nos quartos. Localização: Av. Desembargador Clotário Portugal, 933 – Centro. Informações: (41) 3392-1621

Novtel Ainda em fase de ampliação, o hotel oferece 20 apartamentos e 54 leitos. Todas as unidades habitacionais possuem tv a cores e banheiros privativos, porém o serviço de interfone e telefone ainda está em fase de instalação. Há lugar disponível para estacionamento, embora este não seja coberto. Quanto à alimentação serve apenas o café da manhã e lanches. Localização: Av. Ayrton Senna da Silva, 4056 – Bom Jesus. Informações: (41) 3393-4671

Hotel Nortesul Com 22 quartos, 02 apartamentos e 22 leitos, o hotel oferece banheiros coletivos para os quartos, tendo banheiro privativos apenas nos apartamentos. O mesmo ocorre com os aparelhos de televisão. Oferece os serviços de alimentação no restaurante localizado em anexo, mas não dispõe de garagem para estacionamento. Localização: Rod. do Café – Br 277 s/n Km 126 Informações: (41) 3292-2677

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Talk:Camps Bay

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campsbayvillage dot com
These guys have 4 listings, I trimmed them back 2 one. --(WT-en) Babbelas 03:19, 17 June 2009 (EDT)

Budget

 * Small intimate living space able to accommodate one traveller per room, designed for hassle free lock up and go accommodation. Ideal for backpackers.

 * Traveller’s rooms attract “discerning millionaire backpackers” wishing to stay in the best locations at a reasonable price.

Midrange

 * Camps Bay, known for being vibrantly fashionable, is set against the impressive backdrop of the Twelve Apostles and palm-tree lined promenade and white beaches. This is Cape Town’s premier beach resort. The portfolio includes crash pads, garden studios, apartments, houses and villas.

 * This fun and vibrant seaside resort has a selection of 40 rooms, studios and apartments which have been immaculately prepared according to detailed guest specifications. The resort is within walking distance of food stores, a shopping centre and a beachfront lined with street cafés and restaurants. When the sun goes down the strip offers a fabulously vibrant nightlife!

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Talk:Camps in the Kruger National Park

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Talk:Canacona

=Info to be added to towns in this region=

Cotigao wildlife sanctuary has its own accomodation, the Forest Rest House is simple yet charming (affordable too, but bookings are a hassle), while the beach-huts atop coconut trees are a speciality that Canacona is getting known for. Canacona's first luxury hotel, the Goa Grand Inter-Continental, has just come up at Raj Bag.

Below is a review of some hotels, moving north to south.

AGONDA Sunset Bar & Restaurant SEAFRONT Val Aframento, Agonda 403702 Tel 647381 10 double rooms. Rs 200-300 per day. Some a/c. Open October to March. Valid till season-end (March 2003) Facilities: Restaurant, laundry arranged, food cooked to requirement. Restaurant cuisine: tandoori, fish-curry, beef steak, beef vindaloo. Overlooking the beach, in a quiet area.

Dunhill Beach Resort SEAFRONT Val, Agonda Beach, Canacona 403702 Tel 2647328/647604 www.dunhillbeachresort.in 12 double rooms Rs 1000 -- Rs 2500 in season Valid till May 2012 Facilities: Dolphin boatrides, sightseeing arranged, sunset view, ticket booking arranged, attached toilets. Cuisine: Chinese, Continental, Indian, Goan. Special dish: Fish Tandoori style. 6.30 am to 11 pm. Nice location. Reputed for its food/Added new renovated rooms.

PALOLEM

Hi-Tide Beach Huts ON THE BEACH Ourem, Palolem Beach, Canacona 403702 Tel 643104 October 1 to April 31. Website www.goaunplugged.com/beaches/ (See under Palolem) 20 double (16 'upstairs' and four down) Rs 300 downstairs, Rs 450 upstairs (Nov 15-March 15) Valid till March 2003 Facilities: Restaurant, laundry arranged. Restaurant: Indian, Continental, Chinese, Mexican. Beach-hut, set up on the sands. Peaceful. 24 hour presence of the owner or security. Doctor on call. Internet surfing from the beach itself.

Maria Guest House NEAR THE BEACH Ourem, Palolem, Canacona 403702 Tel 643732 Email maria1991@rediffmail.com 6 double, 5 single. Rs 400/250 in season, Rs 250/200 off-season. Open Oct-April Facilities: toilets attached, Goan and Indian food, money exchange, STD pay phone, laundry arranged, cyber-cafe. Cuisine: Special, as per order.

Bhakti Kutir HILLOCK OVERLOOKING BEACH 296 Colomb-Patnem, Palolem, Canacona 403702 Tel 643469, 643472 Email bhaktikutir@yahoo.com 20 rooms. Rs 300-2000. Taxes: 5% luxury tax extra. Facilities: Yoga centre, healing centre, boutique. Restaurant: Ahaar. Tel 643469-72. Cuisine: Health-organic food and seafood, mainly veg. Packaged to the "adventure-seeker, health-conscious, nature-lover and eco-nut".

Palolem Beach Resort RIGHT ON BEACH Palolem, Canacona 403702 Tel 643054, 644094 Fax 643054 Email: sunila@goatelecom.com Open throughout the year. Tents removed in monsoons. 12 rooms, 16 tents, 6 huts. In season Rs 400 / 350 / 250 for rooms/tents/huts. Rooms Rs 300 off season. Valid upto April 2003 Taxes 8% extra. Visa/Master cards accepted. Facilities: Restaurant, STD/ISD, laundry, massage parlour, taxi on hire, site seeing, boat trips, waterfall trips and spice plantation. Restaurant: Tel 643054(also fax). Cusine: Goan, Indian, Chinese. Recommended: Fish rechado, tandoori fish. Open 7.30 am to 11.30 pm.

RAJBAG

Molyma. NEAR THE BEACH PO Chaudi, Canacona, Goa Tel 653082, 83 and 87. ??? Fax 643081 Email: molymaresorts@yahoo.co.in Open year round. 42 double rooms, on double or single occupancy. Tariff valid uptil Sept 2003 Taxes 4% extra Facilities: Laundry, hot/cold shower throughout, restaurant open through year, one km from Canacona railway station. Restaurant: Authentic Goan. Breakfast upto 10 am, lunch 11am to 3 pm, dinner 7 pm to 11 pm.

Goa Grand Inter-Continental Resort LUXURY Rajbag, Canacona 403702 Tel 643288/643848 Fax 643278 Email: goa@bharathotels.com Mumbai sales office: 2873050 255 rooms, suites and cottages. (236 deluxe rooms, 3 presidential suites, 2 luxury suites, 12 executive suites, 2 independent two-bedroom cottages) Facilities: Bath tub, shower cubicle, tea making facilities, minibar, colour TV, international direct dialing telephones, writing desk, outdoor lounging area, safe deposit locker, 24-hour room service, in-house laundry and drycleaning. Also coffee shop, speciality restaurant, bar lounge and dance floor, pool bar, barbeque, modern gaming club. 9-hole golf course. Jogging track, tennis and squash courts. Banquet and conference halls for 15 to 400 people. Great location, food, service. Closeby eateries outside the hotel are more like dhabas and may be closed during off-peak season.

GALGIBAGA

Brandon Bar and Restaurant QUIET BEACH Colsor, Galjibag 403728 Tel 641512 3 double rooms, with toilet Rs 250 Open full year. Laundry arranged, Goan food on order. Homely setting, surrounded by authentic village and fields. Half-km from the beach.

COTIGAO

Pepper Valley NATURE RETREAT Pepper Valley, Dabemola, Near Cotigao Wild Life Sanctuary, Partagal, Canacona. 403702 On the banks of the river Talpona Seasonal, open till end April 2003 Tel 642370 (sometimes out of order) Email:peppervalleygoa@hotmail.com or faizalsaidali@rediffmail.com Rooms: 6 huts, double accomodation. Shared toilet. Rs 400 throughout this season (till 2003). Facilities: Restaurant, small bar (open sunset till 11 pm), a 'natural swimming pool' in the nearby river, air tubes for swimming, laundry/taxi and sight-seeing arranged. Cuisine: Indian, global. Timing 7 am to 10.30 pm. Scenic settings, close to Cotigao wildlife sanctuary.

Resort de Polem ON THE HIGHWAY Near Check-Post, Polem, Canacona. Tel 640477 or 640737 Open year round. 15 rooms (double, attached bath) (Rs 200 each) 5 bamboo cottages (Rs 200-500 in off-season/season) Tariff valid till September 2003 Laundry and sightseeing arranged, black-sand beach one km away. Restaurant: Tel 640737. Cuisine Goan, Chines, Continental, Tandoori. Special dish: Chicken 65. Open 9 am till 11 pm. Mostly used by travellers along the highway to Karwar, and a stopover for buses. Goa's "last hotel" before the inter-state boundary.

WHERE TO EAT

German Bakery & Classic Restaurant and Bar Xitto, Palolem, Canacona Open September to January. Tel 643251 Email tedogefernandes@yahoo.com Cuisine: Health food, pizza, apple pie, croissant, full veg. Recommended: Paneer tikka, tofu burger, tofu butter masala, chocolate pie, Crastolan cake. Open 8 am to 11 pm.

Dropadi Palolem Beach, Canacona sanjaybick@rediffmail.com Tel: 644641 (Res: Sanjay Sharma) Cuisine: Indian, Chinese, Italian, Continental. Recommended dishes: Tandoori dishes, spaghettis and lasagne, seafood (all sorts) lobsters. Timings 8 to 11 pm (including 6.30 pm till 11 pm tandoori) Open year round

Blue Planet Near Posro Beach Road, Palolem Tel c/o 643691 Email: praveendesai2001@yahoo.com Cusine: Fresh juices, soya bread, brown bread, tofu, soya milk shakes, healthy salads, Indian food. Recommended: Veg mix salad with dressings, humus, eggplant-dip. Open Oct 15 to April 15.

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Coach Canada rebranded as Megabus
I noticed that whenever I looked up bus schedules on the Coach Canada website, I was always redirected to the Megabus website. Staff at the Toronto Coach Terminal explained that Megabus had acquired Coach Canada and was rebranding all its Coach Canada buses as Megabus. Many Coach Canada buses have been repainted to show "MEGABUS" in giant letters on the side of the bus, but retaining the Coach Canada logo and name in small letters near the bus door. Many Coach Canada buses are still in their original colours. Thus, I am going gradually rename all "Coach Canada" entries to "Megabus (Coach Canada)" using only the Megabus url. TheTrolleyPole (talk) 21:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Question about acceptable documents to enter Canada
The article currently quotes: "DHS issued cards for the Mexican Border (SENTRI) and for international air travellers (Global Entry) cannot be used to enter Canada, but they are acceptable to re-enter the United States and may be used in the dedicated NEXUS lanes into the US, where available."

I was under the impression that the Global Entry Card, as a valid Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative document, could be used to enter Canada, albeit in the normal entry lanes, not the expedited ones. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Hemisphere_Travel_Initiative It definitely is a valid WHTI doc, and Canada participates in that program, which makes this document effectively similar to an enhanced driver's license. Does anyone have any more information on this? --PapaMichael (talk) 21:56, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles about Canada. Ground Zero (talk) 13:42, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this page. Ground Zero (talk) 04:52, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Cannabis goes under "drink"
Unlike in the Netherlands, you can't do pot in a bar, so it's not really part of nightlife. You have to buy the stuff in a store and then smoke or vape it at home (not a hotel, so tough for tourists) or outdoors away from other people. So should this go under "drink" at all? Kevlar67 (talk) 19:37, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

 * I'm not seeing it under "Drink", but since it's legal to use, it clearly doesn't belong in an "Illicit drug use" subsection. Where would you like to put it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:03, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

 * I would put it under "Cannabis and illicit drugs" as most readers still associate it with other drugs. CBD drinks are not available yet, as far as I know, so it's still about smoking, vaping and eating it. Even when the drinks become available, I dont think they'll be in bars. Ground Zero (talk) 21:22, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

 * I'm fine with that subheading. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:10, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

 * Put it under Do. I doubt a subheading is needed; if it is, use "Cannabis" alone. Pashley (talk) 02:57, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks! SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Major rewrite of list of "other destinations" and potential impact on list of "cities"
1. I've completely gutted the "other destinations" and replaced it (slowly over the last month or two) with one example that is the most famous archetypical attraction for each major natural region of the countriy (note, I said "natural region" not Wikivoyage region). Please comment in general on this change. 2. This has lead to Dawson City being added as the most famous example of a northern Canadian town. Therefore I propose deleting Whitehorse from the list of cities. 3. And while we're at it, what is Winnipeg doing here? There was literally a commercial on TV for years where the joke was that going to Winnipeg by accident is the worst mistake a traveler could make! On a more serious note, do we really think that it draws more international visitors than Edmonton, St. Catherines or Victoria? Not likely! Do we have stats? Kevlar67 (talk) 03:05, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

 * Winnipeg belongs here. List_of_the_largest_population_centres_in_Canada has it as the country's 7th largest urban area but I've seen lists that have 4th. It certainly gets some international visitors, though mostly just passing through. I'm a Canadian who has travelled some; I've been to W more often than E or (unfortunately) V & I've never visited St C.Pashley (talk) 05:44, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

A completely usable guide to Canada 🇨🇦 [[canada|Canada]]
Just in time for Canada Day, Wikivoyage has a completely usable travel guide to the Great White North. All 942 articles about Canada are now are at usable level or above, including district, city, park, region, dive, airport, itinerary and topic articles. There are no annoying outline articles or useless stubs. While there may not be much travelling going on now, you should start planning your trip here. (Canada Day, July 1, celebrates the day in 1867 when three British colonies formed a self-governing dominion, and marks the beginning of modern Canada.) Ground Zero (talk) 11:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Wow! That’s awesome! I’ve been contributing to Florida articles, mostly on MOS, and it’s made me realize how much work it takes to improve a region or country’s articles. I see you’ve been improving region articles as well, a difficult task. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 12:31, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * How many region/countries has all of its subarticles at usable level or above? What about region/countries that has all of its subarticles at guide level or above? And Canada should be a guide, according to the country status page. SmileKat40 (talk) 12:38, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I don’t think that’s GZ’s goal. Take a look at WV:Article status stats. It’s rare for a region to have guide status, so that would take far more local knowledge than what any of us presumably have. I think we should be grateful for his contributions rather than disappointed they haven’t had enough impact. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 13:15, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * I have started a discuss Talk:Canada and would like input from others before upgrading it. Ground Zero (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * So you've upgraded all the district, city, park, region, dive, airport, itinerary and topic articles breadcrumbed under the second-biggest country on Earth, eh? Pfft, big deal.
 * Happy Canada Eve.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:43, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 😄 Building Canada wasn't a solo project. Lots of others have contributed to the 942 articles. I just put the puck in the net. Ground Zero (talk) 17:20, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * The pass by Messier...AND HE SCORES!!!!!!!!! Congratulations! Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice job. Also suitable that Hamilton went on the Main Page today as DotM. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:02, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Ground Zero, how many years have you been working on this? I remember you announcing that the parks were all usable, and that was some time ago. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I started upgrading outline city and park article in January 2018, and then moved to region, itinerary and topic articles articles later.  Of course, there were already many articles at the usable level. I haven't done much with those. Ground Zero (talk) 16:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Is this a guide-level article?
Here are the requirements for a country article to be promoted from "usable" to "guide": I think this article meets all criteria. If you disagree, what is it missing? Ground Zero (talk) 16:26, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * 1) Has links to the country's major cities and other destinations (usable status or better),
 * 2) a valid regional structure, and
 * 3) well developed prose in all the standard sections.
 * 4) All immediate subregions must be usable status or better.
 * 5) Layout closely matches the manual of style.
 * 6) All important ways to get in should be detailed, along with some suggestions for where to go next, and thorough information on getting around.
 * 7) At least 2–3 good-quality photos accompany the article; preferably showing famous or important attractions.
 * 8) Should have a custom page-banner.

 * It looks great! My only area of doubt is point 6, as I notice the "Get around" section has no "By boat" subsection. Should it have one? If not, I think the article is ready for promotion to guide status. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:23, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Getting around by boat has been added. Ground Zero (talk) 00:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Great job. Getting 942 articles to Usable status is a lot (like seriously, a lot) of work. Canada should definitely be upgraded to Guide. SmileKat40 (talk) 01:49, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

An award for you(s)!

 * Thank you and merci bien! Ground Zero (talk) 00:34, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Hiking trail
Canada Opens World’s Longest Hiking Trail From Coast to Coast Pashley (talk) 21:48, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Trans Canada Trail Ground Zero (talk) 00:23, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Greyhound bus shutting down its Canadian operations
Another COVID-19 victim. Greyhound announced today that it will close all its Canadian bus routes. If you come across any Canadian articles that mention Greyhound (with the exception of 5 routes that originate from the US), please remove them. OhanaUnitedTalk page 17:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

 * I had a look around, and I didn't see any obvious ones left. Thanks for this note, so we can keep an eye out. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:28, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * That's not good. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 06:21, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Other carriers are stepping into the breach, and Maritime Bus, a regional carrier, is planning to set up a national network of regional carriers for coordinated schedules and joint ticketing. Things will sort themselves out. Ground Zero (talk) 22:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Brazil on the visa map

What does that different greenish colour mean (is it the same as all the rest of the countries listed in green?)? I'm a little confused on what that means. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:10, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 * Brazil is not on the visa free list, but the linked page says "some" Brazilian can get an eTA, which is required also for the visa free travellers if coming in by plane, if I understand our article correctly. Details should be on this page, but my Portuguese is not good enough for me to wade through it – or, there was this link, explaining it in English (Bulgaria and Romania have since got visa free status). –LPfi (talk) 09:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Where to breadcrumb Qikertaaluk Island?
I recently created this article after reading UNESCO's tentative list, but I am not sure where should it be breadcrumbed. It is politically a part of Nunavut, but it is much closer to Nunavik in Quebec and it looks like from a travellers perspective, it is a part of Nunavik, not Nunavut, and so I'm quite puzzled on where to breadcrumb it. Any thoughts? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:53, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

 * I'd put it in Nunavut, but add it to Nunavik (and in Go next of places from where you'd get a boat ride) and mention its relation to Nunavik in Get in (and probably Understand, depending on cultural ties). I suppose there are many small places that are more easily reached across an administrative border, but putting the border elsewhere in our hierarchy can be convoluted, and mostly I think this is the way to handle it. —The preceding comment was added by LPfi (talk • contribs)

 * I agree with Ikan LPfi. Pashley (talk) 02:02, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

 * You mean you agree with LPfi. I haven't expressed an opinion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:36, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay, so I'll leave it under Nunavut for the time being., any thoughts as to where to breadcrumb it? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:24, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

 * Agreed with LPfi. Otherwise, that would be like putting Kaliningrad Oblast under Lithuania because of easier access, although Nunavut and Nunavik aren't seperated by an international border. (I know we have microstates in Europe breadcrumbed under the countries that enclave them, but I've never found that an elegant solution.) Vidimian (talk) 08:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion
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 * A photographer used a non-standard licence that has since been deleted, and therefore many of their photographs are licence-less. However, these two have standard licences, and deleting them would be only to satisfy a user discontent with Commons, which usually isn't a valid reason for deletion. –LPfi (talk) 13:11, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Time zone map
The time zone map, if I'm not mistaken, contains a few issues. First, New Brunswick is labeled as Nova Scotia. In terms of timezones, it overlooks many oddities across Canada. The most noticeable is Labrador, which should be in the Atlantic timezone. It's also a bit more complicated in the Kootenays region. This map also doesn't help to explain the places that don't change in the summer (Yukon and Saskatchewan, parts of Northern Ontario, and North Shore Quebec).

This looks accurate, but it's not really legible until you click through to the full size. I'm also curious whether showing summer and winter zones together on one map is clear for the traveller perspective. Alternatively, OSM and Wikidata seem to have the zones covered, even with the local oddities (e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6446108), so maybe it's not that hard to make our own static or interactive map.

I suppose the easiest alternative could be to keep the time zone coverage here on Canada simple, and point out the local anomalies at the regional or provincial level. Saskatchewan already does a good job; Northern Ontario could probably use some work.

So my question is, should we swap out the current map for a more complicated but more accurate one? And then, is it worth looking at how we handle time zones in the next level down the hierarchy? Gregsmi11 (talk) 10:45, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

 * I remember seeing a similar issue on Australia a few years back. It's been a while since I managed to come up with a solution to it, but I would suggest keeping it simple, and then later explaining the local anomalies in another paragraph. A table could also help. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 11:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Here are some choices from Wikimedia Commons: Ground Zero (talk) 11:58, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Airlines
Like User:Ikan Kekek, I question whether the article needs a list of airlines. It feels encyclopedic to me to have a general description of each airline, even after I've deleted the description of each airline's fleet, and the descriptions of airlines that ordinary travellers can't use. Ground Zero (talk) 01:28, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Apart from major airlines (and some regional ones like Air Nunavut), I don't see the need to include every single minute piece of detail about every Canadian airline. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 01:44, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Now that the list has become even longer, I think it is time to remove it, unless there are any objections in the next day or two. Ground Zero (talk) 21:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

I've left a paragraph with the principal airlines, but if that starts turning into an encyclopedic list again, we should probably delete the whole section. Ground Zero (talk) 23:04, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds sensible to me. Thanks for taking care of this. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:29, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

 * There have been problems like Canadians stranded in other countries by flight delays. Should we be warning people to avoid Sunwing? Or Westjet which recently screwed up some flights for friends of mine? Others? Pashley (talk) 15:06, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Such warnings seem like core material for a travel site. I'd say add them right away. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Any airline may have problems with individual flights, but the story seems to indicate something much more serious. Sadly, the story gives no background information. Is the airline getting bankrupt or what is this about? Aren't there standard procedures for handling airlines leaving you stranded? –LPfi (talk) 16:21, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think adding anecdotal evidence from friends is not a good idea. Every airline screws up some flights. If we have safety or service ratings from a reliable source, we should add that. My Westjet flight last week was fine. Sunwing didn't put my cousins' luggage on their flight, but then British Airways did the same thing to them. Do we want lists of these incidents in country articles? I don't think so. Ground Zero (talk) 17:44, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

 * I agree that anecdotes are not enough to justify a warning, but the Sunwings problem appears to go far beyond that. I certainly would not fly with them myself & am inclined to add a warning, but the story is months old & I've no idea of the current situation. Pashley (talk) 04:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

 * A few months after that mess they were bought by Westjet. Perhaps that has fixed the problem? Pashley (talk) 04:42, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't fly Sunwing either, but I think we need some sort of report to refer to, not just my cousins' story and your friends' story, or even the CBC artivle from last December. As you note, they may have fixed the problems. I know people who refuse to fly Air Canada because of past problems. Ground Zero (talk) 04:47, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

History and Politics
These sections are getting very long. Should we start trimming them? As Country article template advises, "The country's history in a nutshell. When in doubt about including a date or event, ask yourself: Is it relevant to the average traveller?". Ground Zero (talk) 19:08, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

 * Should we revert to Special:PermaLink/4671863, which is more readable and looks less like a Wikipedia article? SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 09:35, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Canadian wildfires
Should we include a warning about the ongoing Canadian wildfires? It looks like they are pretty serious, considering that the smog has now spread into the American Midwest, so this might be a health hazard for people with respiratory issues. Trust me, it's bad. You can actually smell the smoke here. The dog2 (talk) 02:16, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The situation changes daily. The smoke will come to a place for a day or two and then leave. I don't think we can keep up with the changes. This makes me think of the many warnings that we have for incidents that are long since past. The warnings are added, and never removed. Ground Zero (talk) 12:27, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Having lived through the 2019 East Coast Australian bushfires, have to agree – the smoke isn't the prime concern, it's the bushfire itself. It makes sense to have a general warning (perhaps in a cautionbox) directing users to the relevant provincial government websites, but that's about all we need to do. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 12:33, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The wildfires reach Finnish news only occasionally, but my impression is that there have been very large wildfires in California in most years lately, and in Canada at least this year (and 2016). How do they affect a traveller? Is the risk only local, well advertised and easy to avoid once you are there, or is it something you need to take into account when planning your voyage and stay alert about? Should we put up state/province- or countrywide warning boxes or are the fires something to handle in Stay safe (which now has no mention in e.g. Canada or Alberta)? –LPfi (talk) 13:03, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * It would probably be better in the Stay Safe section, rather than at the top of the article, since the effects are local and transitory. (I'm at a cottage north of Toronto today, and considering going home because once the smoke comes in, I won't want to be outdoors. It's real, but it's not everywhere.) Ground Zero (talk) 13:05, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * The increasing prevalence and ferocity of wildfires and the smoke from them is a product of global warming. Maybe there's a place where we can post statements about all the types of disasters that are going to make travel increasingly difficult. Stay safe? Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I do think it's warranted to warn people with respiratory issues to reconsider travel to the areas affected by the haze. I'm just not sure where we should stick that warning. For me, it's only an annoyance since I can smell the smoke, but it could be dangerous for people with respiratory diseases like asthma. When I was still living in Singapore, we often had haze caused by Indonesian farmers burning down the forest to clear land for agriculture (though my family back home have told me that it's become less common since Jokowi took office), and there were often warnings from the government for people with respiratory diseases to wear a mask and stay indoors. The dog2 (talk) 15:17, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I think there is more value in permanent guide content that helps to plan a trip in the face of potential wildfire (and other increasingly common disasters as @Ikan Kekek mentioned). Things to know before a trip... for example what should I be thinking about when I'm making plans months in advance? The day before I leave? On the road?
 * If it's not a timely advisory, there's a question of where to stick it; "Stay Safe" feels like a section I'll focus on once I've booked a trip and feel like worrying about something. Once we inevitably deal with other disasters, some will feel weather related. Do ice storms and heat waves go into climate? What if we had an "Understand>Seasonal Risks" subsection (or something that sounds less ominous) for destination articles that briefly explains the local situation, but mostly links to national or regional "Stay Safe" sections where the details for preparation and safety go into more detail? We don't need to explain the BC wildfire website on every last town in BC, but we can be a bit more specific on what the risks are locally. For example, Vancouver may experience only smoke, but more remote towns will have fire bans, driving restrictions, and issue evacuation orders. Gregsmi11 (talk) 13:30, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Just in case it wasn't fully clear, I was suggesting covering this information in the Stay safe article, rather than individual articles' "Stay safe" sections. The Stay safe article is that permanent guide content you are suggesting we have, though it might bear updating or expanding. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:53, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
 * If we're worried about the wildfires/their smoke, but don't want to constantly be updating individual cities' warning boxes, couldn't we just put temporary warning boxes on the Canada, United States, and North America pages, since those are general (that way we wouldn't have to edit specific cities/regions but could still put a warning out about them)? We could say something like "Heavy smoke from wildfires in northern Canada periodically comes down to [insert place] and can cause or worsen existing respiratory issues. Travelers who might be sensitive to air particulates should be prepared in case this smoke is in the city/cities you're traveling to". Tuyuhun (talk) 15:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, warning boxes on individual cities cannot be properly maintained. The question is whether wildfires are common enough that we just have to tell where to check before going and while in a possibly affected area (like we do for tornados), or if we want to maintain a more or less updated warning at the country level (a cautionbox telling what areas are affected this year). In countries where widespread wildfires are reasonably rare (as in Sweden), a warningbox may be warranted when they occur. Here in Finland wildfires are a problem, but they are extinguished in hours or days, so general warnings about cigarette buts etc. suffice. LPfi (talk) 07:33, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

What about an article called Travel in the anthropocene or something like that? And maybe also Evacuation orders and travel for covering how to deal if your town/city/accomodation is evacuated - due to any disaster or even due to a bomb being defused (this is a rather regular occurrence, for example, in Germany, probably even more so in Yugoslavian countries etc.)?

 * I wouldn't support the title "Travel in the Anthropocene," because it's rather obscure, but dealing with evacuation is definitely on-topic and important. I'd say, cover that in the Stay safe article, and then if the section gets too big, spin it off as a new article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:59, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

 * I just thought of a title. What do you think would be a better title? Climate change and travel? Or just Climate change maybe? Pm147-Sm152 (talk) 17:10, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

 * Maybe, but we'd have to decide what to focus on. One topic is how to minimize your carbon footprint, which is covered in Responsible travel. Another is how to deal with dangers like increasing temperatures, which is dealt with in Stay safe or Stay healthy, I'm not sure which. This probably requires more thought, but I need a nap now. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:30, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
 * No panic, it's not an urgent issue. However, we should jointly tackle it. Pm147-Sm152 (talk) 19:04, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Common terminology in the US or racist slur?
The dog2 shortened
 * "Historically they were known as "Eskimos", but this term is considered to be offensive in Canada and should never be used there (though it is still the usual term in Alaska)."

into
 * "Historically they were known as "Eskimos", but this term is today considered to be racist slur and should never be used."

I think one should keep a mention of the common terminology aspect in some form. As a visitor to Canada, you should of course avoid the word, but the wording suggests it is thought of as racist slur also elsewhere, which seems not to be true in neighbouring USA. First reading this article and then visiting Alaska could make you quite confused, or make you misinterpret the mindset of people you meet there (and that of local institutions).

–LPfi (talk) 15:10, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I've never been to Alaska, but based on what I read in the news, these days people say "Alaska Natives". I don't really see "Eskimo" being used anymore. The dog2 (talk) 17:07, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * If it isn't (and we can confirm it), then we should say that it has fallen out of use also in the US. If the advice that was here was obsolete, then better it was removed, but "racist slur" is quite strong language. If we don't know for sure, we should use a more cautious wording, perhaps something about "in Canada". I make a try, to be improved when we have done the research. –LPfi (talk) 17:19, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I've done some further editing. Here's the thing. Many people from Singapore may use terms like this because these terms were very common in the storybooks and cartoons my childhood, and people have no idea that they're offensive today. That's they reason we need to warn people not to use them here. Not just "Eskimo", but words referring to other historically marginalized peoples like "Negro", "Red Indian", "Aborigine" and so on. I don't know how Alaska Natives feel about the word "Eskimo", but I would not write that it is acceptable in Alaska until we know for sure that the Alaska Natives themselves don't mind. The dog2 (talk) 18:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Unless w:Eskimo has got it all wrong, I think saying never is too strong: according to that article, Eskimo is used when referring to both Inuit and Yupik (calling Yupik Inuit might be as insulting as calling them Eskimos – I don't know), and the word seems to be used in some legal contexts. It is clear that the word should be avoided, but are we sure it should never be used? I don't see how it is necessary to say "never" to discourage Singaporeans from using it. –LPfi (talk) 14:17, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * This is the Canada guide. In Canada, it should never be used. Travellers should avoid it. That's all we need to deal with here. If it's different in Alaska, let's deal with that in the Alaska article. Ground Zero (talk) 16:43, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
 * No, the term "Eskimo" is only derogatory in Canada and Greenland. It is still seen as acceptable in the United States (even though its usage is diminishing). -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 20:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * "Alaska Natives" is a catchall term and not at all limited to Inuit people. See Alaska Natives: "Alaska Natives[...]are the Indigenous peoples of Alaska and include Iñupiat, Yupik, Aleut, Eyak, Tlingit, Haida, Tsimshian, and a number of Northern Athabaskan cultures." Of those peoples, only the Iñupiat people self-identify as Inuit. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I understand that. The question is whether or not the Alaska Natives find "Eskimo" offensive when it is used to refer to them, which is the case with the Inuit people in Canada. It is certainly possible that only some but not all indigenous ethnic groups in Alaska find "Eskimo" offensive, given that they're all different, but I don't know. Things can certainly change with time. When my dad was living in America, using the term "Negro" to refer to black people was the norm, but it's now offensive, and I have to remind him not to use them term whenever he comes to visit me. The dog2 (talk) 23:53, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Read Eskimo if you like. I really have no idea what Alaskan Iñupiat folks think about the term, but I also don't know how to pronounce "Iñupiat". I have no idea whether mispronouncing that name would be offensive. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I'm Canadian & have Inuit relatives & friends. (Northern Quebec & Ottawa area). Some of the older ones still call themselves "Eskimo" & younger ones don't seem offended by the term, though they'll often correct it to Inuit. Not always, though they are almost certain to correct mix-ups between Inuit (plural) and Inuk (singular). Pashley (talk) 06:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Canary Islands

This article used the term "Macharonesy." Google didn't turn up a single page - is this an actual term for the islands? (WT-en) Rhobite 17:07, 15 Nov 2003 (PST)

The correct spelling is Macaronesia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaronesia

Categorize with Spain?
Since the islands are an integrated province of Spain, and Schengen rules and Spanish laws apply, they should be categorized under Spain. /Yvwv (talk) 23:49, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

 * I would think that would serve the traveler best, but let's see whether anyone has a reason for opposing this. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:26, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

New banner candidate
In my opinion, the current banner is uninviting. Here are two new candidates. They could be considered for Fuerteventura as well. /Yvwv (talk) 14:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

 * I prefer banner 2, 0. I am not a fan of 1 because of the unappealing colour of the mountains. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:40, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Among these 3, I would also prefer Candidate 2. Candidate 1 (currently in use) has a white beach, which is not something you'd normally find there (apart from the couple of artificial ones).
 * A perfect banner for the canaries would in my opinion need the following: The sky of Candidate 1, colorful volcanic rocks and associated vegetation (Opuntia, Echium, depending on elevation) in the foreground, mountain peaks in the background. Some ocean and/or laurel forest would be great. At least the more mountainous islands are very divers in terms of landscapes, climate and vegetation. It would be great if that could somehow be reflected in the banner. --El Grafo (talk) 09:46, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Canaveral National Seashore

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Talk:Canberra

see also: Talk:Canberra/Archive

Suggestions to add
Hi I would like to add a couple of things, but I don't know the details of them so if someone comes along and knows them can you consider these suggestions: - If you have a care or are are able to hire one, there is a really beautiful scenic drive below tuggeranong and out to where the observatory and the dam. The bushfires of a couple of years ago have dramatically altered the landscape but it's still really beautiful. - You could also go swimming in the local swimming spots such as Pine Island (South East) of Tuggeranong Mall or Kambah Pool which is to the left of the suburb Kambah. They are both really lovely places to swim and Kambah Pool has nice picnic areas and a nudist beach (or so legend has it). Both of these swimming places are in the river (don't know what name) - Also the town Tharwa is nice and if you drive down, you could go to Lanyon homestead. - I don't know if it still exists after the fires, but there used to be a wonderful animal sanctuary in Tuggeranong on the way to the observatory. When we went, there were a lot of kangaroos by the road and we saw an emu as well. - I also know it's possible to hike up some of the mountains in the ACT, but I don't know the details. - The botanic garden are also lovely.

- I would just like to thank the person who typed the fact each greyhound leg must be booked seperatly to obtain a discount. You've saved me about $16. thankyou

I'm not sure about the nudist beach to be honest, but it certainly wouldn't be at Kambah Pool, which isn't in the river (the Molonglo, I believe). Pine Island is most certainly beautiful, yeah, I'd love to get some photos down there to put in this article. It's one of those "local treasures" that isn't really advertised anywhere. Being a resident of Queanbeyan/Canberra, I look forward to including some information about this myself, as it's one of my favourite places in the whole world for sanctuary.

The "animal sanctuary" referred to is the National Zoo & Aquarium and most certainly still exists :)

The ACT is perfect for hikers, I believe. There are several mountains to choose from, each offering their own unique experience (haha I sound like a brochure...), and none of them are particularly intensive - they're all very gradual inclines. I'd personally recommend Mt. Stromlo (North Canberra/Inner North), Mt. Ainslie (North Canberra/Inner North), Mt. Rogers (Belconnen), Mt. Taylor (Tuggeranong) and Red Hill (Woden Valley). There's also a great mountain bike trail in the pine plantation near the airport, I'll have to get more details on that. Also, I'm pretty sure you don't need permits or anything like that to hike up the aforementioned peaks. You just do it :).

Peace & Love :) Psychonavigation (talk) 01:45, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Kambah Pool ( Right turn at the round a bout junction) Carpark at bottom of Rock pool is in fact a sanctioned Nude Beach. Follow concrete path (past toilet block) you will see the sign declaring the 'Nude Bathing'.

Kambah Pool in Tuggeranong on the Murrumbidgee River indeed does have a nude bathing area, I've been there on a bushwalk. It's very pretty and has excellent hiking trails and swimming. I'll get around to finding a photo (obviously not of the nude people!) and updating that part of the page. ChristiesChicken (talk) 05:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Hotel photos
Hi, everyone. Are those buildings particularly notable, such that they would be exceptions to our image policy regarding business photos? I doubt it, as Rydges looks fairly typical of the boxy style of modern hotel architecture to me, and the Hyatt photo is possibly even less interesting. Am I missing something? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:41, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I added those photos, not being aware that they contravened policy - sorry about that. The Rydges is unremarkable (it's main claim to fame is that it's really ugly! - it looks even worse on the inside, believe it or not), but the Hyatt is Canberra's oldest (I think) and most posh hotel. That photo could go as well though. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 08:01, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, if a photo that showed how posh the Hyatt is could be found, it might be justifiable to put that photo up, with the remark that it's Canberra's oldest and poshest hotel, but how old is it, actually? If you don't mind, it seems like it might be best for both photos to be deleted. Don't feel bad about putting them up, though. :-) Best, Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:15, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It is historic, as it was built at the same time as the capital as the first residence for the politicians coming to Canberra. It is a fine place for afternoon tea and a look around, but the photo doesn't show off that aspect of it. --Inas (talk) 08:32, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good target for a photo hunt or new photo. We can leave the current photo up for the time being, but it should be thought of as a placeholder, I think. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree completely. There's a history of the hotel here which may be of interest - it's about 90 years old in a city which is currently celebrating its centenary. Nick-D (talk) 10:52, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe put that historic comment above as a photo caption? Hi everyone.

Hotel Canberra, in its current guise the 'Hyatt Canberra', is indeed historic and a well-known landmark in Canberra. Along with the Brassy Hotel and the Hotel Kurrajong, it was built in the early days of Canberra for the purpose of housing early politicians and public servants to the fledgling city. An Australian Prime Minister, Ben Chifley, died in the hotel Kurrajong and all three hotels have a lot of political history that Australians may find interesting. I agree that that information could probably be placed with the hotel listings themselves ChristiesChicken (talk) 05:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Small edits to the history part of "understand"
Hi, I'm very familiar with this city. I made a few small edits to the 'Understand' section to replace some factually incorrect information. Melbourne has never been the capital of Australia, but a number of national institutions were housed there while Canberra was being established. Canberra was in fact established by the signing of the Australian constitution into UK law in 1901, not in 1912 when the city was founded. There is a whole section of the Constitution dedicated to it with specific references to the distances between Sydney and Melbourne. That information is still in the Australian constitution.

Perhaps more controversially, I also made a wee change to the end of that sentence to reflect something that was mentioned above in this talk page, that Canberra remains something of a controversial city. Just look above under 'why', and also in the Wikipedia talk page for Canberra, or speak to the nearest Australian, for evidence of this. This is something that I think is important for understanding Canberra at a city, but that should not overshadow the fact that its actually a really beautiful city with undeniably important and interesting national institutions like Parliament House and the National War Memorial. I think that the first few lines at the top of the page, which mention that, mean that that kind of overshadowing doesn't occur. ChristiesChicken (talk) 05:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Thanks ChristiesChicken, there are also some Australian residents who are frequent WV contributors as well. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:29, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Needs a table of contents
This page needs a table of contents template at the top. —The preceding comment was added by 99.190.132.77 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 12 December 2017
 * No it does not. Would you kindly consult Manual_of_style and get acquainted with the fact that, in this Wiki, "tables of contents" are hardly used. Thanks for the attention Ibaman (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
 * And, as with all other Wikivoyage articles, there is a table of contents anyway, at the bottom of the banner (the rectangular image at the very top of the page) — try moving your cursor around over "Understand", "Get in", "Get around", "See", etc, on that line. Vidimian (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Putting the Tram on the map
The Wikipedia article on Trams in Canberra has what appears to me to be a properly geocoded map of the first line. I think it would serve the traveler to put this line onto the map like we do with other urban rail systems. Hobbitschuster (talk) 08:13, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 * Makes sense. I don't think anyone would disagree with you.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 08:28, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 * Can someone who knows the necessary coding do the honors? Oh and we might also wish to include it in the rint template... Hobbitschuster (talk) 08:33, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

 * The tram still doesn't show up :-( Hobbitschuster (talk) 11:47, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

"Town Centre?" infobox
I'm not sure whether it should be included. I was in Canberra last week and it didn't really confuse me that much. Instead, I was much more confused on the inconsistencies with "City", "City centre", "CBD", and "Civic", not to say that nearly every sign in Canberra is half-torn and is barely legible and are confusing for the most part. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:41, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Time for districts
Canberra has gotten quite long and so I think it is time to districtify Canberra. I made a proposed map in my userspace on how the districts would work, but a map of the districts can be seen on the right. Does that look good, or should some of them be merged? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:34, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
 * In particular, I should say that I'll be using an acronym in Western Country ACT because no-one calls it Country Australian Capital Territory. Do many people outside Australia know what ACT stands for? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:17, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * What I also didn't mention earlier is that Canberra Central would be divided by six. I've added a map for illustration. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:52, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I don't think many people outside Australia, or certainly in the U.S., know what the ACT is. But I think it's OK to use "Western Country ACT" instead of "Western Country Australian Capital Territory," for brevity. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:48, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Okay sure. Thanks for the clarification.
 * On top of that, I think my proposed South Canberra might get very long and it too will eventually have to be divided, but we can follow the official boundaries (listed on User:SHB2000/Canberra CBD map). The only issue with that is that Capital Hill doesn't fit anywhere into those six (because of the nice layout of the city), and as far as I'm aware, we never have articles for just a parliament house as it fails wv:wiaa but this could be an exception, but I'll raise this in the travelers pub. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:30, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I think for now, I'll leave S Canberra as it is as proposed, but it can always be split up later. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * But for now, I have a quick district progress guide here in my userspace. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:27, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
 * After a further look, it seems the three districts just southwest of Canberra Central don't have much in them. Should they be merged? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:30, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Merger
It seems the three small districts just west of Canberra Central only have four see listings altogether. I merged them, so it serves the traveler. Hope noone minds. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:12, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

 * It seems that I was a terrible planner, and overestimated the number of listings there would be for each district. However, I'd like to do the following:
 * Merge Belconnen and Gungahlin together.
 * Merge Fyshwick into Canberra. A single wetland does not get its own article
 * Merge Tuggeranong and surrounds along with Western Country ACT and make call it Tuggeranong and Country ACT
 * Merge Campbell and North Canberra together.
 * If they do ever turn out to be very very long, we can split them up from there, but right now I think my planning was terrible and too many districts doesn't exactly serve the traveler. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:58, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Done, and one more final merger – I propose to merge Eastern Canberra as there are no points of interests apart from a business park and a hotel. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:57, 27 March 2022 (UTC)

Districts complete
Although some of the districts are still only at usable, I've finished all the districts and most are either at informative, or guide. I'll be reforming this page in the next few days to move them out, and then try and get our first complete southern hemisphere city with all districts at guide status. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 04:18, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

 * As I've finished, I'll be moving the districts out of my userspace in the next hour – this page will need a bit of a cleanup, but I am currently on that. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Small adjustments to districts – breadcrumbing Namadgi National Park under Tuggeranong and Country ACT instead of Canberra
I decided to make a better dynamic map given we don't have many users who can make a static map, and one problem I've always thought was dealing with Canberra/Namadgi National Park. It's entirely within Country ACT, and it does require you to drive a little, and it is not really a district (hence its categorization).

However, now I'm thinking Namadgi National Park might be better off being breadcrumbed under Canberra/Tuggeranong and Country ACT, as the park IS in Country ACT, it may be more beneficial to recategorize it somewhat like the categorization of Taman Mini Indonesia Indah. Other thoughts? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:00, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

 * Done. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:57, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

A few minor adjustments to the districts
I was wondering whether including the District of Stromlo under Canberra/Weston Creek, Molonglo Valley and Woden instead of Canberra/Tuggeranong and Country ACT. Some new housing recent developments have extended into the District of Stromlo to the point where the residential part of it is interwined with Weston Creek. While the MTB park and the observatory used to be in Country ACT, these are at the brink of becoming a part of the urban Canberra; some may even say that the MTB park has already become a part of Weston

Another adjustment that I was thinking of making was having a new Canberra/Airport and East district. Some travellers do like to stay near airports and this would narrow down the scope of the already very large Canberra/Tuggeranong and Country ACT.

Other comments? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:36, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

 * A map of the new proposed districts here. Took six failed attempts but finally got it done. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:25, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * If there are no objections by tomorrow, I'll move out User:SHB2000/Airport and East and adjust the various maps. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:43, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Aggressive road safety signs – worth a mention?
If there's one thing that sticks out to first-time visitors apart from all the government-related institutions, it's Canberra's very aggressive road signs – while aggressive road signs aren't unique to Canberra, no other city has so many aggressive road signs to the extent that Canberra has. [https://goo.gl/maps/yvC61PJw6WJsregS8 Drink drive? Die in a ditch] (that's one example of many).

While it doesn't affect most travellers, I think it's an interesting trivial thing that Canberra is known for that's possibly worth mentioning in the § Get around section. Any other thoughts?

-- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 08:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * For some other examples:

 * Don't drink and d r i v e
 * Missing a call won't kill you
 * Drive n text? UB next
 * Alcohol + Speed. Dead ahead.
 * People die on ACT roads
 * I'll add more if I remember any others. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 09:02, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * That's really nothing compared to the British ones in the 1970s. Ground Zero (talk) 18:08, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * lmao, that one made my Monday afternoon. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 07:45, 20 March 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Cancún

I changed "Mexican: Cancún" to "Spanish: Cancún". Can-Cún is from the Mayan Can/Nest - Cun/Snake, so it means Snake's Nest.) Mexican is a equivalent to Nahuatl, the language of the "Aztecs", which is totally different from Spanish, which is the language Spoken in México and all other Spanish speaking countries.

I guess that Cancún is probably of native origin, but it's probably most correct to call words using in Mexico "Spanish" rather than "Mexican". Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. --(WT-en) Evan 14:28, 26 May 2004 (EDT)

Mexico is in North America, not Central America. Move the article? (WT-en) Deirdre Golash 21:40, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)

Cancun is Mayan. It was originally spelled Cancu-en. There's no real reason for the accent, which was added at some unknown point when the resort was under construction. The emphasis falls on the second syllable naturally, as it's supposed to in Spanish. Mexican Spanish is distinctly different from castellano. It has many indigenous words from dozens of tribal languages, many of which are spoken to this day. [[User:(WT-en) Jules Siegel]

You've also got the translation wrong. Can means snake. Although contemporary Mayas agree that kun means nest, this translation does not appear in the standard Cordomex dictionary of the Mayan language. Modern Maya contains many Spanish words. The Spanish word for den or animal's nest is cuna. It also means cradle. I am not going to go into the full drill on this. Suffice it to say that Cancun refers to Kukulcan or Quetzalcoatl, the Plumed Serpent, the principal Mayan national and religious symbol.

--201.102.139.92 09:28, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)Jules Siegel

 * Wikipedia (which is linked from the article in the otherlanguages box) has a full explanation of the meaning and etylmology. -- (WT-en) Colin 13:46, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)

Good point. I wrote that explanation, too. (WT-en) Jules Siegel 19:27, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

I added a "splurge" sub-section to the accommodation part as both the hotels I added are "splurge". I moved the existing hotel entries that also look like slurge hotels into that section too. --(WT-en) Christiantc 06:50, 3 August 2007 (EDT)

hurricane warning?
I see no need for the hurricane warning any more. I was there shortly after the hurricane and the airport, hotels, restaurants, malls etc were operational.

 * Thanks. I have removed the warning which was pretty out of date anyway, but the wiki way would have been for you to remove the warning and leave a note explaining why. Plunge forward!. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 23:57, 9 May 2006 (EDT)

Texugo
Please discuss any changes to the Cancun page here. You made the following changes 1. Info about young people driving in Cancun. It is true.. The Polcia will tell you they do not like spring breakers, they pronunce it like wind breakers. 2.. Why did you remover link to Garafon. Seems better to link to it rather than leave some indescript word. 3. You change link to Xel-Ha, Xcaret, and Mayan Riviera as a related page. And 4. You removed the geocode for Cancun, which removes the map. I do not think you have the authority to make these deletions without discussion, so either refrain from removal or please discuss your intentions or reasons here. (WT-en) 2old 09:24, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Very sorry. I must have made a mistake reverting back too far or something-- no idea how the others happened. #3 is the only one I intended to do, and I changed it because as it stands it looks like those two theme parks have their own articles, which they don't. Why don't we change it to something like:
 * The Mayan Riviera, with its ecological water theme parks such as Garrafon, XCaret, and Xel-Ha.
 * (WT-en) Texugo 11:06, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Done. (WT-en) 2old 11:35, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

Driving
Does anyone else think the Driving section is way into the overkill zone? Some of this is useful discussion, but it's generic to driving or renting a car anywhere in Mexico. Some of it strikes me as just plain paranoia, especially considering that driving through much of the Yucatan peninsula is easier and more trouble-free than other parts of the country. I think this needs to be said, and the warnings cut to 1 paragraph max. If people find it useful, perhaps one general topic about driving in Mexico could be created. The vast bulk of what I see here though has no close connection to Cancun itself. Thoughts?
 * (WT-en) Mrkstvns 16:09, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
 * I second that idea. (WT-en) Texugo 18:20, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I agree. Not only is the driving section two long, there are two "By Car" sections. It seems a little redundant to me. I think it all needs to be condensed and then included mainly in either "Get in" or "Get around". (Preferably "Get around". (WT-en) Carson 18:30, 19 June 2008 (EDT)

I know! It does not help the article to flow at all! There is a travel topic called "driving in mexico" so I have trimmed and linked the article to this. --(WT-en) Goldie 04:36, 25 June 2010 (EDT)

Exit Fee
I just got back from Cancun. Upon my exit I did not need to pay any exit fees. I asked immigration and they said it was not needed. Perhaps this should be removed from the site.
 * Please plunge forward and change the text, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 17:38, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
 * I just got back from Cancun as well and was told by the officer that it depends on your airline - some airlines include the fee in your ticket, some don't. But, nobody checked anywhere if the fee had been paid. (WT-en) Vessep 13:14, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

Splitting the article?
Would it make any sense to have two articles for Cancun - one for the city itself and another for the hotel area? They are not within walking distance and many people that stay in the city do not even visit the hotel area. It would be easier to locate hotels, restaurants etc. if one knew in which part of the city the recommended place is without checking it from some other source. (WT-en) Vessep 13:14, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

 * I don't know Cancun at all, but see Project:Geographical hierarchy for guidelines on sub-dividing city articles. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:54, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

 * I will make an effort to improve on this at some point in the future; I live in the area and at some point when I have a good chunk of free time to familiarize myself with how the site / editor works I'll work on dividing it. As I do agree with the original comment. The downtown / hotel and resort area are more or less two entirely different experiences / cities / districts. You can move between them, but largely, if you're in one area, you're probably not visiting the other aside from a stray one-off visit. Heimerslinger (talk) 19:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * thank you for agreeing to take this on. Your local knowledge would be of great value in improving this article. There are many editors like me who can assist you, if you run into trouble. Ground Zero (talk) 21:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the best approach is to leave this article as an overview with two districts: Downtown and Hotel Zone. (Additional zones may be warranted, e.g., Puerto Juarez). I will vote a resounding NO to making it two distinct destination articles. Mrkstvns (talk) 00:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Mrkstvns is correct about how we handle large cities like this -- we create district articles, rather than separate city articles. Ground Zero (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't personally mind if it stays as one vs two articles.
 * I currently plan on trying to edit the page, if possible, to have some relevent sections that are specific to the hotel zone and downtown areas, which ideally a viewer could skip past to the one that is relevent to them.
 * It's a little daunting due to the sheer size of the article but I will continue coming back and chipping away at it. Heimerslinger (talk) 04:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello Heimerslinger, just to clarify...what you really want to do is to "districtify" the article, which means there should be:
 * one main article for Cancun (basically the current article), which will eventually be shorter than what you start with
 * new articles for the districts, titled "Cancun/Hotel Zone" and "Cancun/Downtown" where you can put info specific to those areas (including listings for hotels, restaurants, sights, etc.)
 * You could take a look at other large cities with districts to see how it is done, for example, I think Monterrey might be a useful model because there are only 4 districts (whereas Mexico City, London, or New York City each have well over a dozen). Mrkstvns (talk) 14:19, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ...or I suppose you could leave it as is because districtifying is a lot of work... Mrkstvns (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Solaris listings deleted for touting
Hi, everyone. We have a touter who uses different IPs. Please help keep Solaris listings out of this guide, as there doesn't seem to be a way to prevent them from being edited to tout, and I'm sure no traveler really needs to use their hotels, when so many other choices exist. And touter: If you're reading this, the next step would be to blacklist your URL. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Warning needed?
5 tortured bodies found stuffed in a vehicle in Cancun, bringing month's total to 57 Is this accurate? Would it apply beyond just Cancun? Pashley (talk) 18:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Get in/By private transport
Is the section needed? "Cancun Airport Transportations" is blacklisted, and their sockpuppets keep coming back to try to redirect content in the listing for their rival, Cancun Airport Transportation, which is a different company. I'll keep blocking and reverting their B.S. if we decide that's necessary, but is there actually any difficulty in finding private shuttles from the airport? Because if there isn't, we can make things easy for ourselves by deleting the section and reverting on sight any attempt to recreate it or list any airport shuttles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a reasonable solution. Ground Zero (talk) 18:54, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
 * As there has been no objection, I will delete the section now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit late to this conversation as I only very recently became aware of the wikivoyage site.
 * My thoughts on this are that actually having a listing for private shuttles would be useful here. Or, perhaps there could be a separate small page setup for that kind of information? (As this page is getting quite large). Or if there were an external site that listed an adequate number of active shuttle services in the area, linking to it would provide value.
 * If I were a net new tourist coming to this area, all I would find are the top google results. And frankly, these days, finding anything you're actually looking for via search engine is a huge mess. I think it would be a positive thing if we had a list of private shuttles on the page, however I acknowledge it would be a mess of its own to prevent vandalism and would invite a bunch of competitive edits from people trying to boost / tout themselves or put down competition.
 * As someone who's lived here for the past few years and no longer really has to fly in or out, when I have friends or family visiting, I don't personally know what shuttle options are out there. I know the one that I've used in the past, and I could find some on a search engine, but would appreciate some results on this page in case i knew there were someone coming that wouldn't want to spend the insane amount on airport taxi's but also wouldn't want to use the ADO bus. Heimerslinger (talk) 18:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

 * please get acquainted with our policies about WV:External links and WV:Don't tout which are crucial to this subject matter. WV:Goals and non-goals is relevant as well. Ibaman (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I will read those! Heimerslinger (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Aquatours
Aquatours offer tours with speedboats, a catamaran and a Spanish galleon (the worst try at a galleon I've ever seen outside playgrounds). I don't really believe that the one company has that large a competence. Is it in fact some kind of reseller? –LPfi (talk) 20:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

Cancun Airport article
I've started a new airport article for Cancún International Airport that can contain quite a lot more (and more detailed) information specific to the airport. CUN is a huge airport, the second busiest in Mexico, with 30 million passengers per year and four terminals. It more than meets the WV requirements to be considered a huge airport with its own article. I've already moved most of the previous "By plane" content there and will continue to add content to flesh out the new article. Please feel free to add to it! Mrkstvns (talk) 19:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Get In / by Carpooling - Is this section still relevant?
A couple of times in the past couple of weeks, I've taken a look at the BlaBlaCar site mentioned in this section, and I'm unable to find any carpooled rides between the cities listed and Cancun. It's possible that I'm using it wrong, but I wanted to raise the topic and see what others thought on whether this should remain here, if perhaps there's some note on how to use that site that should be added, or if perhaps it should be removed.

If others agree that it should be removed, should we remove the 'By Carpooling' section entirely, or maybe leave something there in its place? Heimerslinger (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

 * I think you can remove it if you find it to be not useful. Mrkstvns (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

title: Talk:Cancún


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Talk:Candela (Mexico)

There is more than one place called Candela:

Mexico

 * Candela (Coahuila) - A town in Coahuila.

Italia

 * Candela (Apulia) - A town in Foggia.
 * Place (Region) - A town in Region.

Candela

title: Talk:Candela (Mexico)


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Talk:Candidasa

Agung Bungalows
Made an inquiry via http://baliwww.com/homestay/homestay_detail/super_saver/528.html. The description on this page is not clear whether the accommodations are directly on the beach.

Driver
We booked a trip from Candidasa to Lovina. The two of us paid 450000 for the trip including driver, car, and gas. We drove past Besakih, then past the volcano viewpoints, down the other (north) side, and the driver dropped us off at Kalibukbuk. The driver was friendly, safe, and spoke good English. The car was good. The driver was Iwayan Darmaja who lives in Candidasa, mobile number (62) 085 935 144 459, home number 081 747 27651, website listed on his business card is www.darmajatour.com but I never looked at the website as I met the man locally. Good toyota vehicle.

Unsure Eat listing
Since we are on a semi-strict budget, we didn't eat at those places. We found one and only one place where we could sit down and have tasty, healthy food at a good price. I think the name was Warung S___ but I can't remember exactly. What I can tell you is that from AGUNG Bungalows, it's about 200m north (towards the lagoon) on the opposite side of the road. The prices on everything from juice to chicken curry are 30% of what you see at the places that cater to tourists, and while the chairs were somewhat uncomfortable, the staff is friendly and the food great.

title: Talk:Candidasa