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Welcome
Welcome to Wikivoyage, and thanks for contributing. I assume you're the same person who's been creating and editing articles about Peru; logging in with your account will make it much easier to communicate. :) Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit more pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

One policy I want to point out is that we link only to official web sites for the hotels, restaurants, and other places we list. We don't links to blogs (like on Xanga) or other guides. That's because we want to have all the information a traveler needs here, in Wikivoyage itself. See Project:External links for a more complete explanation. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 14:25, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

The format for external links does not include putting a "*" in front of the name. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 14:52, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

And would you at least acknowledge that you've seen this page, and that you understand what I'm saying? I'm begining to think you're deliberately ignoring my messages. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 20:32, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

Thanks Todd We only just saw the message.

 * Hello and Welcome TrujilloPeru! I just wanted to say nice start on adding information to Peru guides. Now that you have a user account, you may want to read-up on the policies and guidelines mentioned above and then consider becoming a Project:Docent for some of the destinations you may know well. I hope you don't mind if I go over some of your edits and bring things in line with our Manual of style. We like to keep things consistant to be useful to travellers. Let me know if you have any questions! (WT-en) Majnoona 21:11, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

Do we write at the top or bottom here? We are recommended in the best international guidebooks, have run several weblogs for several years & won a prize for ElBrujoPeru, which contains far more correct & current information (& less typos & grammatical errors) than sites like that of Inkanatura.

 * (At the bottom. That whole reply-at-the-top thing in e-mail drives me crazy.)
 * We're certainly glad to have you contributing your expertise to Wikivoyage. Our policy against linking to blogs or other guides has nothing to do with the quality of the information on them, but a need to draw a line somewhere, to prevent Wikivoyage articles from being filled with link after link to online guides, rather than being filled with actual information.  (The Project:External links page explains it better than I can.) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:21, 16 July 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Truth'soutthere

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Thanks very much for your edits to Phnom penh. Nice work. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 14:21, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

 * You're welcome. I just got back from there, and since I found the information on Wikivoyage useful for my trip, thought I would help to improve the article. — Cheers, (WT-en) Truth's Out There –talk– 14:25, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Jup, cheers for that and again welcome, judging from the signature and user page you might also want to give our welcome page for wikipedians a read :) --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 14:35, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Yes, I also edit over at Wikipedia. The user page here is under construction - just ported it over from WP but haven't localized it yet. Thanks for the welcome. ��� Cheers, (WT-en) Truth's Out There –talk– 14:43, 17 October 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tryptamine dreamer

Hello Tryptamine dreamer! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thanks for all the useful edits! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:02, 21 March 2008 (EDT)

 * Nice work on the Russia article!  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:50, 14 September 2009 (EDT)

Thailand
Thanks for your edits to Thailand and Bangkok. Please try to be a little shorter though: we don't need to lecture readers about evil ATM fees, it's enough to tell readers how to avoid fees. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:11, 20 February 2010 (EST)

 * Thanks for the addition to MBK! --(WT-en) globe-trotter 15:23, 17 November 2010 (EST)

Gili ferry prices
Hi Tryptamine dreamer, I know you meant well with your edit to the Gili Meno article but I reverted you edit and added some brief but more accurate information in its place. It looks like you got scammed. This is a common event there and sadly many people have been mucked about like this. I assure you the price to and from Gili A Rp 8,000 Gili M Rp 9,000 (1 way per person). Gili T is 10,000 (1 way per person) (note: edited Gili M price on 23 mar to correct typo/error). The scam is to make people believe they have missed the boat and then charge them exorbitant rates. Sometimes these scammers then just put people on the public boat and move onto their next ruse. As your information added credibility to the false prices you were quoted I removed that infor from the article so that other travellers would not inadvertently then assume that to be the official price. Maybe the day you travelled there was only the boat in the morning but that is highly unlikely. These pests have been getting away with these games for years and they are relentless in their methods. Thank you though for trying to improve the article with up-to-date information and refresh the content with information based upon your own experience. In this case though I think it would assist the scammers more than assist the traveller and I am more than certain this is not your intent. If you have other information you would like to contribute to that regions articles please do go ahead and please do not be put off by this edit reversion. -- (WT-en) felix 04:59, 2 March 2011 (EST)

 * Hi, Felix505. I've revised the edits you've made in Gili Meno & Gili Air articles, and have a few comments and corrections:

 * 1. As of mid-February 2011, the price of Rp.8.000/10,000/12,000 was posted in the ticket office inside the building on the beach. Absolutely same, now it was 10,000 on Meno for a ticket to Bangsal - stated on the ticket booth right near the harbor, where everyone buys tickets. Looks like they've increased it, as on previous visit (May 2010) it was, yes, 8,000/9,000/10,000, if I remember right.

 * 2. What means "informal" about inter-island service? Yes, maybe this service is provided by locals without an initiative from local government, aimed to tourists who'll certainly prefer to pay around the same money, but avoid traveling, waiting, and, possibly, missing a connecting boat in Bangsal. Maybe yes, it is not official, if you mean thet. But, if you see a boat schedule on all 3 Gilis (as well as in Bangsal harbor), inter-island service (called "island hopping") is clearly stated to operate twice a day, and the price is stated there too. I may mistake, but it has changed slightly, that's why I wrote "around Rp.20,000". Actually, in February it was Rp.23,000 for Gili A <-> Gili T and 20,000 for a trip between Meno and either of two others.

 * I used that inter-island service this February once (morning Gili Air-Gili Meno boat). Last May went same way (but by afternoon boat - it was just 4-5 people between Air and Meno, nevertheless, the boat was not canceled), plus had to take a day trip (for visiting ATM) to Trawangan later - morning boat there, afternoon back to Meno, shocked by what I've seen on Trawangan. All was ok, and I never ever heard about cancellations, etc., of this service. Of course, as the service is unofficial, I wouldn't recommend to use it for anyone having to hurry elsewhere on the same day. But, as far as I can see, now it's quite reliable, not less than an official service to Bangsal.

 * 3. About Gili Air Rp.170,000 - that price is not from my imagination, I've seen that number written on the big schedule posted at Bangsal harbor, near/above the ticket office. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if someone will try and charge more from tourists. Can't help about that, hm.

 * 4. "As of February 2011, the last boat to Gili Air was leaving at 11AM". Hm, it was so at least on 17 February this year. We (me and my girlfriend, she's Indonesian) arrived by taxi (Rp.50,000, after hard bargaining, used taxi as bemo via Ampenan would be Rp.30,000) from Senggigi late, around 11.30AM. Taxi dropped us half way to the harbor, and we walked to the harbor, where we went directly to the building where there's a ticket office. I've been on Gilis already with my friends last May, so I already knew where is it. There my gf asked in the ticket office, is there any boat to Air. They replied no, but told there'll be a boat to Meno at 2PM, as well as nearly-hourly boats to Trawangan. Where's a scam here and who could lie? ticket officers at office AND a big schedule on the wall, same time? Maybe before there was service to Air at afternoon, yes, but even official boat schedule may change.

 * Anyway, after that I decided (as my gf didn't have too much time/money for the trip, and we were planning to leave Gilis in just 8-9 days) better we still go first to Air, not Meno, even we would have to pay more. We considered to wait for Trawangan boat, go there, and then catch an afternoon island hopping boat to Trawangan. This would be Rp.66,000 for two persons instead of Rp.16,000, or Rp.20,000 if to Meno. Meanwhile, some guy hanging around, who heard we are talking about Air, offered us to go to Air with a his private boat. Initial offer was Rp.100,000 for both of us, which was instantly refused (I'm not a holiday tourist, I am not rich, I live mostly in SE Asia since Nov'2008 (you can see my trip schedules on my page, if interested), can earn not so much, and, therefore, can't waste money; as of my girlfriend, she gets even less money than me, even though she HAS, and pays too, btw). But when he dropped the price to Rp.50,000 (that is 25,000/person), we agreed - simply because it was cheaper and more convenient for us to go directly. So, finally we paid 50,000 for both. Worse than 16,000 if we would come earlier.. but better and faster, than via Trawangan.

 * Where's the scam here? and what was incorrect? I also was sure there's at least boat afternoon, otherwise we could hurry and arrive late. My comment about current (February 2011) situation about last boat departing at 11AM wouldn't make it worse - at worst, someone will just wake up earlier. But the lack of that comment may lead to the situation when someone also would get stuck on Bangsal, and then would have to choose either inconvenient long trip via Gili T, or an overpriced "private" trip. Therefore, my opinion is that this information should be re-posted, unless there will be documented (current photo, document, link to official website, etc.) proof ot contrary. It's better to be on the safe side, than to get the reason for locals to rip you off.

 * About bargaining with private boat guys - I think this information wouldn't harm, too. If someone will get in the similar situation (late to direct boat) - it's good to have a price of indirect trip as an argument, while bargaining with money-hungry locals.

 * And, actually, what "false" prices are you talking about. About official / inter island boat - I posted exactly what I've seen in both Bangsal and Gilis. About the price which may be offered for a private ride in case you're late - well, I told about initial offers (foreigners travelling without Indonesian person and/or looking too "white", sure, could be offered even more crazy amount), and about how finally we dropped the price to somewhat reasonable. And I clearly stated it is NOT an official price, and that we had to do that, just because were told (in the official ticket office) that the last direct boat to Air have already gone.

 * Of course, I appreciate adding more information about possible scams (even though myself I've noticed anything too many of them compared to, say, many places on Bali). But, please, do not delete my own information too. Or you have some more recent (I left Gilis on 25 February 2011) information? if yes, and I am no more right, I am ready to drop any of my complaints which are no longer actual.

 * 5. Can't understand why you've deleted an information about inter-island boat from Gili Air article. The boat (while maybe not so official) seems to be reliable, see section #2 above. Perhaps you should return that information (even maybe with note that the service is not official, and, and such, may not be 100% relied upon).

 * P.S. sorry for my imperfect (and probably SEAsian-pidgin-spoiled :-D ) English - I'm just lazy to correct so long text, especially as it's just for a talk page.--(WT-en) tryptamine dreamer 13:14, 22 March 2011 (EDT) @ Jakarta, Indonesia

 * Hi (WT-en) tryptamine dreamer, Dmitry, please don't think that I am (or was) intentionally meaning to be dismissive toward you in my edit notes. WT edit notes are a potential land-mine situation, like sms it can be a bit tricky getting the nuances through as well as the information as the message space is limited. Also I do not, and had no intention to cast aspersions upon your perception, negotiating abilities or general astuteness as a traveller in my comments above. In fact it appears you dealt with the situation at Bangsal with some success and you clearly made a considered and very well intentioned attempt to assist both the WT article/s and the traveller with your comments and information. I am actually very impressed with your negotiation skills in getting you both over to Gili Air for Rp 50,000. That is roughly the same price as the Shuttle boat (Rp 26,000/person departing 5PM) supplementary service in the late afternoon. The official Charter boat price is (Bangsal to Gili Air 1 way-Rp 155,000). However I still think you got scammed, you just came out of it much more successfully than most do. Being unsure of your time of arrival at Bangsal it is hard to know if you had already missed the last Public boat service or not, however getting out of there for the same price as the Shuttle boat is a very good outcome, indeed just getting out of Bangsal with out waiting around for the 5PM Shuttle boat is a good outcome in itself. There are Public boats during the afternoon though, only yesterday I was watching them unload their passengers on the beach at Gili Air after 3:30PM. I think you may have been diverted from using an available public boat that afternoon but due to your negotiating skills you fortunately paid only a fair price for a private charter. If you were genuinely were too late for the last Public boat then you did very well. I might add that there are a few people there at Bangsal who are OK, especially amongst the older guys, Udin comes to mind, he is an affable slightly chubby guy with a very pleasant disposition. He is a genuinely nice guy, unlike some of the younger, excitable and opportunistic younger ones who are often abusive and aggressive and appear to be infected with a pathological liar virus. Last week a tourist got punched in the face by one of these touts who is well known for lying and misleading tourists. It was prompted by the tourist refusing to buy an insect repellant for Rp 100,000. He was travelling with 2 Russian girls who were apparently quite upset, as was the victim of this assault. Hopefully there will be a police presence established there soon as the situation is becoming absurd. This is just another of the scams there, these touts often set upon tourists trying to sell overpriced insect repellent claiming it cannot be purchased on the islands, this is of course a complete falsehood, there are shops and warungs there and they sell mosquito repellant.

 * Bangsal and the Gili islands are a mess when it comes to the boat transport. It is controlled by a Koperasi which is entirely self-serving and controlled by 6 individuals. Hence I say it is a cartel rather than by definition a community co-operative as it is meant to be. Theoretically it is under the control of North Lombok Regency (Kabupaten Lombok Utara) (KLU). There is a basic Wikipedia article on Kabupaten Lombok Utara that has some limited info on the regional administration structure and the region.

 * Kabupaten Lombok Utara struggles to have any control over the Koperasi and to be frank I don't see them having any real control at all. There are elements in the KLU administration who are very motivated to get rid of them but as of yet have found no way to do so. As some people benefit considerably from the resulting chaos in Lombok-Gili and inter Gili transport the KLU do not want to have a riot on their hands if they try to either reform it or disband it. I have no doubt about the information you have provided in that I am sure it is both sincere and most likely accurate in regard to your own personal experience there. However I stand by my original edit that removed it as it was potentially misleading. My edit at that time was only a temporary fix and I returned soon afterwards with a comprehensive review of that section. As to the source of my information I am working from the current official decree per Pengumuman Dinas Perhubungan Lombok Barat no.:551/662/V/dishub tanggal 26 mei 2008. This decree was enacted prior to the inauguration of the current Bupati and the official commencement of an independent Lombok North Regency on 26 july 2011. North Lombok was previously covered by Kabupaten Lombok Barat (West Lombok Regency) and then an extended transitional hand over period to the new administration and elected Executive officers. Hence it is a West Lombok gov decree rather than a North Lombok gov decree.

 * Indeed due to your own quite reasonable attempts to address this issue I got sufficiently motivated to do what I had been intending to do for some time, that is; to review the 3 Gili articles and attempt to properly describe the official services run by the Koperasi. It is confusing as there are several defined services
 * Public boat a ferry service that has the 3 set prices GT=Rp 10,000, GM=Rp 9,000, GA=Rp 8,000. Yes I know I wrote it up previously as GT=10,000 and the other two both 8,000, I was just in a muddle and a bit of a rush and I subsequently came back to the whole thing and did it thoroughly afterwards as per the 2008 decree info.
 * Shuttle boat this supplements but at a higher price. Sometimes the touts exploit this and charge Shuttle boat  prices for a Public boat service, this is what I thought had happened to you as I think you mentioned travelling at 11AM and that should have been a Public boat.
 * Island hopping boat Your information on the Island hopping boat service was not far off the mark but that service is often mixed up and confused with an informal inter-island arrangement. The Public boat crew sometimes enter into ad-hoc arrangements with passengers, that is the "informal" arrangement I was referring to, as opposed to the official Island hopping service which you may have been involved with later when you went to the ATM on Gili T, or maybe not. Some of the Island hopping boats have that written on the hulls. Everyone is confused, even some people who live on the islands have no idea what is for real and what is a ruse and others are just exploiting it as an opportunity to scam visitors and locals.

 * So after scrubbing out your info as I felt it was (un-intentionally) potentially misleading I set to work on replacing that with a full outline sourced from the official decree no.:551/662/V/dishub tanggal 26 mei 2008. By the way when I was on Gili Air yesterday I noted the all the prices on the wall had been 'scrubbed' out and were empty. On the window of the ticket office there was a quite fresh looking (and accurate) brief outline of the Public, Shuttle and Island-hopping official charges. I did a 'test' enquiry playing a 'dumb' tourist role and I was quoted the correct price (Rp 8,000) to go on the afternoon boat back to Bangsal. I was there as part of an official government visit so I am not entirely convinced my playing 'dumb' was very well executed as I suspect they already knew who I was and were already a bit keyed up by our presence. It may explain the 'missing' prices on the wall and the crisp fresh paper list on the window. Have a look at my recent edits on Gili Air, Gili Meno, Gili Trawangan and Bangsal and I think you will see where my edits to your contributions were leading

 * Having looked over your contribution history I do recognise that your are a long term and now established contributor at Wikivoyage but do make sure you have a read-up on the Manual of style article as there are quite a few guidelines on things like using first person pronouns and second person pronouns, POV as well as info on how to do external links. WT has a firm policy on those external links and in my opinion your 3 listing presents an interesting conflict between that and seeking a good page typographical look for that link. The Gili islands/Bangsal situation is a bit odd, you just stumbled inadvertently into a quagmire of local conflict and misinformation, tricks, games and illusions, if it is of any reassurance it is a puzzle even for Lombok residents.

 * BTY, there is a highly respected and long term Russian editor here on the English language version of WT. (WT-en) DenisYurkin does a lot of great work and you might like to look over his user page and some of his contributions as I think you might have a few things in common.

 * Someone who travels about as much as you do and likes to write is a welcome and valuable addition to the WT community of editors. You should not worry about your less than perfect English, it is not too bad anyway and better than many native speakers manage to come up with. As you no doubt already understand if your edits are worthwhile in content another editor will just come along and fix up any serious grammatical issues that you may inadvertently create in an article. Here on your own talk page you should be able to relax about that. After all as you noted yourself, it is just a talk page. Really it is the article content that is more important. I am a native english speaker and despite that I make plenty enough mistakes myself, I think we all do. If you need any reassurance browse the Indian and Malaysian articles, the English as as second language issues there can get quite heated at times, especially when someone thinks it is a personal slight when someone corrects their English.

 * To digress a little, what were you doing drinking warm beer in Jakarta?...I think there is more to your story than you are letting on to.-- (WT-en) felix 08:57, 23 March 2011 (EDT)

Australian (tourism) visitor visa application details // applying from Indonesia
Hi Tryptamine dreamer, I somehow stumbled back onto your user page and read through your travel and wish list. You are correct about Australia, it really is a bit expensive and even NZ is creeping ever upward even with it's lower dollar. I know nothing personally about applying for an Australian Visitor visa from either Russia or when in Thailand but this link may offer some assistance AU embassy Russia. I noticed you mentioned you had an Indonesian GF and liked to hang out in Jakarta. There is a substantial Au embassy in Jakarta and they have an Immigration section there. Appointments required. The visitor visas are handled of site by a government appointed contractor. If you are likely to be in Indonesia it may be better to do it there in case ypu have to wait for a processing. They also have a Consulate in Bali and they handle a lot of foreign visa applications there as it is such a popular transit point. They use an outside contractor, Australian Visa Application Centre (AVAC) in both Jakarta and Bali for processing vias applications and to provide a 'shopfront'. You might want to contact the AU embassy in Moscow in the first instance. Unfortunately Russian citizens are not eligible for Australia's Electronic Travel Authority (ETA).

"VFS, operator of the Australian Visa Application Centre, is an experienced company offering visa support services to DIAC and other diplomatic missions in India, UK, France, Spin, Morocco, Russia, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, United Arab Emirates, People’s Republic of China, Singapore, South Africa, Thailand, Nigeria, Malaysia, among others."

Jakarta
 * Australian Visa Application Centre (AVAC) in Jakarta Indonesia
 * Address VAAC: Plaza ASIA, Lt. 22, Zone C, Jl Jendral Sudirman Kav 59 , Jakarta 12190
 * Opening Hours: 08.30 to 16.00 Monday to Friday (Except on Public Holidays)
 * Submission: Travel Agents 08.30 - 12.00, Individual 08.30 – 16.00
 * Collection: Travel Agents 08.30 - 12.00, Individual 14.00 – 16.00
 * Email VAAC: ([mailto:info.diacid@vfshelpline.com info.diacid@vfshelpline.com]) VAAC-visa shopfront homepage

 * Australian Embassy Jakarta
 * ([mailto:immigration.jakarta@dfat.gov.au immigration.jakarta@dfat.gov.au]), AU embassy Jakarta, Jakarta Embassy (AU) homepage
 * address-Jakarta: Jalan H.R. Rasuna Said Kav C15-16, Kuningan Jakarta Selatan 12940, Indonesia

Bali
 * Australian Visa Application Centre (AVAC) in Denpasar, Bal
 * AVAC address: Perkantoran Grand Sudirman Blok B-28, Jalan PB Sudirman, Denpasar - Bali 80114
 * Helpline: ☎ +62 361-241078
 * AVAC-visa shopfront email: ([mailto:info.avacbali@vfshelpline.com info.avacbali@vfshelpline.com])

 * Australian Consulate: ([mailto:dimia.bali@dfat.gov.au dimia.bali@dfat.gov.au]), ([mailto:immigration.bali@dfat.gov.au  immigration.bali@dfat.gov.au]), AU Indonesia home page-Jak, Bali Consulate AU home page
 * Consulate address-Bali: Jalan Tantular 32, Renon Denpasar Bali 80234, Indonesia

Happy travels, I hope this assists if you are keen on another trip south. -- (WT-en) felix 07:18, 2 March 2011 (EST)

 * Thanks Felix, hope I could do that some time. Now there's a bit tough situation for both me and my GF concerning job (she finished univ and has to find something serious than her current job; and the company in Russia where I work remotely owes me a lot. but doesn't pay, so I had to halt my work for them during last months too). Hopefully it'll get fixed (anyway, "back to Russia" is no more an option for me, if it ever was after Nov'2008), and then... well some time I could visit AU (as well as NZ). Thanks to AirAsia, at least flying there could be now cheap even for me, sometimes. :-D unlike to Russia--(WT-en) tryptamine dreamer 13:22, 22 March 2011 (EDT)

 * Hi Dmitry, check out the Student visa situation, your GF may be eligable for a Student visa for post graduate or other study. Depending upon your relationship status you may qualify as a 'common law' partner even if you are not married and therefore maybe able to piggyback on that. Also I note you have some established skills, if you can set up an employment offer that may assist as well. Otherwise you should both get a Visitor visa OK. Be warned though, Australia is often fiendishly expensive even if getting there is reasonably affordable from SQ, Bali, or KL and many other asian airports. A working holiday or study visit might take the edge off that though and Student visa holders can normally be employed formally under their visa catagory. -- cheers--(WT-en) felix 09:11, 23 March 2011 (EDT)

Indonesian articles
Hi Tryptamine dreamer, I notice you are doing some more work on the Indonesian articles. I also noticed you just created a frontlink on the Indonesia article. Frankly I have no problems with doing such things and in the case of your edit ..."Cheapest monthly Internet offer, as of March 2011, seems to originate from 3," Personally I think it often actually helps but it is completely against established WT external links guidelines. You should undo it so that another editor does not need to. Maybe do this instead -- 3 -- and it will look like this -- ...seems to originate from 3  or ...seems to originate from the  3 network

On an entirely different matter the Indonesian articles have an established style to displaying Rupiah amounts. Rp 00,000 is the established format with a space after Rp and using a comma in the numerals. Rp 1 million, Rp 1,000,000, Rp 1,5 million or Rp 1,500,000. Please don't use RP, Rupiah or Indonesian Rupiah unless you are clarifying IDR or Rp in a section specifically detailing currency issues of some kind. We are also using ☎ +62 21 5555 5555 (jakarta) or with a 3 digit prefix ☎ +62 361 5555 5555 (bali).

BTY Bintang beer started out as a local Heineken 'copy', hence the red star. You might want to mention Guinness as that is very popular in Indonesia. You have mentioned Ankar but you seem to have overlooked Carlsberg, another popular local brewed beer in Indonesia since 1982 (under licence of course). I am not sure about locals liking a beer warm, that is more just a lack of cold facilities I think. In my experience from kampung people thru to company directors, politicians, bar flies and casual drinkers they all generally prefer it cold, including the darker beers and even seek out cold glasses if the opportunity is there. If you have been hanging out with some blokes in a warung somewhere they may have been drinking it warm. I have often been offered a warm beer fresh from the shop or warung so I understand your comment. Sometimes people put ice in it which of course should be discouraged. It is not the preferred thing though in Indonesia, more just an outcome of a lack of refrigeration on the occasion.

Your advice on the transit bus is good but I think the taxi info may be incorrect. I am unsure as I have never done it preferring to only use the bus as sometimes a wait for a taxi can be drawn out. Also as you know no one is meant to leave in a taxi without using the docket system and to do a terminal change is complicated by that. If really needing to use a taxi for a terminal change a traveller is probably better off using a Silverbird (small additional premium on the flagfall and meter) or Bluebird as the drivers have more sense about them. When I have to do a terminal change at CGK I just use the bus. Once I was in a real jam and I flagged down one of the airport staff Kijangs full of cleaners and they took me along, there no were taxis around and the bus did not show up fast enough. I would have missed my plane otherwise. If you are in Jakarta now perhaps when you leave have a talk with the Bluebird concierge on the roadside outside one of the arrival areas and ask about it. Rp 50,000 is crazy, as far as I know it is just a regular metered ride...you just need to say you are not leaving the airport so the normal additional charge zoned destination docket is not issued. The main issue would be a driver losing his queue position in a quieter period and only getting a short inter-terminal trip. The inter-terminal shuttle runs between T1-T2-T3, and for as long as I can remember it has been yellow. Sometimes I have seen a chartered bus being used and they put a temporary sign on it. Similar to the situation with the Gili ferry, it is best not to put a price in an article unless you are quite sure. If unsure say something like "may need to pay up to as much as Rp 50,000 to encourage the driver to take you if he refuses to use the meter" or something similar. That way we do not inadvertently set a price or payment expectation that is well outside the normal.

Keep up the good work on the articles and try and follow those formatting guidelines, even if the rest of the article does not seem to be. If you feel so motivated go ahead and change any that you come across to match. Don't forget it is 5PM or 5:30AM, not 5 pm or 5 PM, or 17:00 or 5:00PM. Lengths are generally XX.X m (YY.Y ft), XX km (YY mi) and similar. -- (WT-en) felix 02:34, 3 March 2011 (EST)

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I already have some thoughts what to reply (and what to do, say, about fixing external links), but better I'll put my reply later, when it's ready for the whole your post. Hopefully I'll do in a few days, as this Saturday I start my almost 3,5-weeks-long trip to TH via MY.. probably less time to sit online then :) Now just too tired, sorry, it's half past midnight in Jkt.

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 * Don't worry, it will keep. Just enjoy your trip. cheers--(WT-en) felix 09:12, 23 March 2011 (EDT)

 * some thoughts about what you've told above 7,5 months ago... hm but it was NOT me who wrote about Rp 50,000 for taxi between terminals, I've just edited that part of article, and this number was already there... From what I heard from people (was curious after seeing so high price), looks it's actually rip off, but as I never tried taxi transfer between terminals myself (I had connection in CGK just once with several hours between flights, so I used bus), I can't confirm that and put the correct price

 * About Rupiah... for me, the usual form is "Rp.100000" (or even "Rp.100 000"), but as in Wikivoyage it's common to use commas as a separator for 1000's, I think I always wrote "Rp.100,000". Well, at least after reading this I'll try not to write a dot :) (WT-en) tryptamine dreamer 08:35, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

 * Selamat datang di Indonesia. I assume lacking the SOSBUD you were probably applying for in KL you most likely then entered Indonesia using a VOA. You can extend them by 30 days for a cost of Rp250,000. So 30 days + 30 days. No need to go to SG, unless you want to. Just go to the kantor imigrasi around 10 days prior your VOA expiring. -- cheers (WT-en) felix 03:18, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

 * terima kasih :) yes, I'm now on VoA. And I did VoA extension before, once this and once last year. Last time (end of February, KI Jakarta Selatan) it was quite fast (mb 10 min wait on first visit, almost none on second, but I came before lunch so after I paid 250rb they told me to come after 1pm, I just went to nearby mall and sat in coffee shop online till 1.45, after that came and got passport instantly), totally hassle-free, and the officer even could speak reasonable English! And I stay now in south Jakarta, so it's same office if I do it again

 * But.. with extension I still have to leave on or before 17 December. And that's what I'm not sure about, even though it was my original plan. If I leave later, then with extension or no, but I'll have to do visa run. Well, if finally so, I also plan to look for job opportunities in Singapore. Plus I can go on any day, so can choose the cheapest tickets.  (WT-en) tryptamine dreamer 08:05, 23 October 2011 (EDT)

 * Sounds good, great that you have been able to get back again and I hope things work out for you here, or in SG. Don't forget about Malaysia, there may be some opportunities for you there as well. It is always good to keep some flexibility with these visa and departure date things, I think you are very sensible to be working around that. Good luck with everything and kasih salam ke pacarnya.--(WT-en) felix 03:05, 24 October 2011 (EDT)

 * None about job so far - at worst, I consider going to Moscow as early as in March! as from the past few years I really dislike the situation when I'm in SE Asia and, as many believe, should be totally happy just because of that, but do not get paid on time and/or have no work at all, run out of money and have only some passive income left. While it's still enough (for Jakarta or Bangkok, equal to above average salary, and my girlfriend does not depend on me financially at all) for living, this situation is very frustrating and boring.

 * Well, hope things will get better. At least, this season my gf can travel with me to India. And, as double promo Kolkata to Bangkok + Penang or KL to Jakarta was cheaper than "usual" connection from South India via KL, why not? So we'll have very long (more details on my page) and totally cheap (even Mochi was surprised, how can _sleeper_ class there cost same as totally crazy "ekonomi" here) train journey in India, then visit Thailand :) after all, I first met her "offline" in Bkk, and she likes this country as much as me only after two short visits.

 * About Indo visa - finally I've extended VoA. As before, got back my passport on 2nd visit, 45 minutes or so after paying the extension fee. As of the next one - if I'll go to Russia in March, I won't need it until next Aug/Sep/Oct; otherwise, I plan to make a Sosbud (and to insist on Sosbud rather than usual 60-day visa like they made for me this year) in Bangkok. Should be easy, considering that the inviting party will also be in Bkk that time. (WT-en) tryptamine dreamer 10:26, 30 November 2011 (EST)

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Berjaya Hills
Berjaya Hills formerly known as Bukit Tinggi Resort. Berjaya Hills captures the essence of the different cultures of the world in a single unique destination! Spanning over 16000 acres of rugged hills and mountains, 3500 feet above sea level and admist 150 million-year-old rainforests, Berjaya Hills is the ideal setting for inspiration and renewal. This enchating haven set amidst cool and refreshing highlands combines historical themed attractions with cross-cultured influences from France and Japan.

Get in
The nearest airport is in Kuala Lumpur.The journey for guests travelling from the Kuala Lumpur International Airport (KLIA) to the resort is approximately 1 hour and 45 minutes.

By Shuttle
Daily Shutte transfer by Berjaya Hotels and Resorts are available now. There are few ways tranfer 1st- Berjaya Times Square Hotel & Conversation Center to Berjaya Hills. 2nd-Berjaya Hills to Genting Highlands. 3rd- Berjaya Hills to Kuala Gandah (Elephant Sanctuary)

By car
Berjaya Hills is 40 minutes from Kuala Lumpur on the Karak Highway.3 hours drive from Taman Negara.2hours and 30minutes from Kuantan to Berjaya Hills. And 1 hour 45 minutes from KLIA airport.

Sleep

 *  Colmar Tropical – A French-themed Resort stands 2700 feet above sea level and is modelled after the actual Colmar Village in Alsace,France. Immerse yourself in the French countryside of Colmar Tropicale as its beautiful architectures and furnishing bring you back to times of French romantic eras.Colmar Tropicale is also offers conference, meeting and banquet facilities for corporate and private functions.

 *  The spectacular Berjaya Hills Golf & Country Club championship golf course was designed by renowned J.Michael Poellot and has played host to international and local tournaments.And it's also offer an award-winning 18-hole golf course and exclusive club amenities surrounded by sparking lakes, mature trees and etc. It had been voted one of the "Top 20 Best Golf Courses in Malaysia" in 2004.

 * Malaysia first themed resort spa, this is a modeled after the Haut-Koenigsbourg medieval castle in Alsace,France. As grand and enchating as the original castle, it's immersed in 18th century Renaissance French style and culture. The centerpiece of the resort is the magnificent 13000 sq.ft.(Opening Soon)

Japanese Village
Designed in a rustic style to address the rugged hills and mountains, the Japanese Village boasts a stone walkway,Zen garden, waterfall, koi pond, rock formations, beautifully carved stone lanterns and so on.

Japanese Tea House
Experience the beautiful and cultural Japanese Tea Ceremony at the Japanese Tea House, while admiring the breathtaking forest backdrop and excellent Japanese design craftmanship.

Botanical Garden
Botanical Garden nearby with more than 500 species of trees and herbs. Bird watching platforms are dotted around the garden and trekking is available along the garden trail past towering trees and viewing decks to enjoy the sights and sounds of the virgin forest. Be amazed by towering trees, ferns, orchids and rarely seen flora.

Contact
There is also a reservation office on 6th Floor of Berjaya Times Square .The website or by phone at +60-3-2141 0088.

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 * I have combined all your listings in to the Pacific Northwest article and included information from the River Drifters website. Please check for accuracy. - (WT-en) Huttite 18:32, 5 February 2009 (EST)

River Drifters
Contact information for River Drifters that should be in any listing -
 * Call (800) 972-0430 or (800) 226-1001

 * River Drifters
 * 405 Deschutes Ave.
 * PO Box 40
 * Maupin, OR. 97037

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Erenhot page
Hi, I've just merged the Erenhot page you initially authored into the Erlian page, as these are the same town - but known by different names. I've also split your grassland tour itinerary into a separate page linked to from Erlian at http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Erlian_Grassland_Tour_Loop - please take a look and check that everything's OK. Thanks! (WT-en) Dastra 07:30, 9 July 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tuozhan

Hello, Tuozhan! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Turalo

Hello, Turalo! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Great work on Vung Tau!

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Also, thanks for uploading your images to shared, please remember though when uploading to select a license... thanks! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:35, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

I am very very sorry for make lack or response, I haven't logged on to wikivoyage in a while. If you still need information, or need information again, or even if you just want to talk, feel free to contact me on wikivoyage, AIM, or Jabber. Again, I am very sorry for not responding earlier. P.S.: I will be checking wikivoyage more often. P.P.S.: I just discovered an old YIM account: euphemised. Feel free to contact me there as well. --(WT-en) Euphemism 11:32, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

Wikivoyage tiếng Việt
DỰ án Wikivoyage tiếng Việt đang được thử nghiệm tại Incubator, mời bạn tham gia phát triển dự án này để nó trở thành một site độc lập của Wikimedia Foundation. Cảm ơn bạn.--Cheers! (talk) 09:52, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

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User talk:(WT-en) Turanak

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Tureeck

Hello Tureeck!

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Thank you for contributing to Australia. -- (WT-en) Huttite 03:37, 24 Nov 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Turiye

Hello, Turiye! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for the info about Montreal.

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User talk:(WT-en) Turkey

Hello Turkey! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) TurkeyBlues

A New Orleanian by birth, I have lived in Turkey for 9 years, 5 in Kuşadası and 4 in İstanbul. After reading the İstanbul article I decided to become a member in order to give some information about the Asian side of the city.

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User talk:(WT-en) Turkeyneck

Hello, Turkeyneck! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Turkeytravelservice

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User talk:(WT-en) Turkeytravel-service

Turkey Travel
 * Turkey Tavel Service
 * Tours Turkey
 * Ephesus Tours
 * Gallipoli Tours
 * Istanbul Tours
 * Turkey Tourist Guide

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User talk:(WT-en) Turkturk

Hello Turkturk! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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In your short time here you've managed to edit many of my favorite destinations that I have and have not been to. You have excellent taste! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:24, 9 January 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Turtle

Hello Turtle!

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Thank you for contributing Mackinac Island. -- (WT-en) Huttite 23:57, 2 Dec 2005 (EST)

Article status markers
I notice you deleted the tag from Mackinac Island. Please read Project:Article status about how these markers are used. They should not just be deleted but changed as the article evolves. -- (WT-en) Huttite 02:46, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tuscanyguy

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. Thanks for contributing to Florence! -- (WT-en) Sapphire 06:29, 21 April 2006 (EDT)
 * Welcome! We appreciate your contributions, but you may want to take a look at Project:Don't tout. You're edits are much more likely to 'stick' if you avoid promotional language and stick to useful facts for the traveller. Let me know if you have any questions, thanks! (WT-en) Maj 10:13, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TUser

Hello TUser! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Please ensure the Image of Sea Lions that you uploaded complies with Project:Image policy. It appears to be a commecial photograph. Unless you own the copyright and can release it to Wikivoyage, it cannot be used. Sorry. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:03, 1 Jun 2004 (EDT)

The picture does belong to me. How do I prove that I did take the picture and that I retain the rights even though it is used at another place? (WT-en) TUser 18:20, September 24th. 2004 GMT -5.00

 * It's pretty much sufficient for you to simple tell us you own the copyright. Here's how this all works:
 * According to out Project:Image policy, we require that everyone label their uploaded images with a copyright. Here's an example of one of mine: Image:Mammoth Mountain.jpg
 * If there is an issue such as failing to properly label stuff with copyrights, we leave a message on the uploading user's talk page requesting clarification.
 * If there is no response, we have no choice but to delete the offending image. (Unfortunately, people trying to be helpful often copy and paste stuff from all over the web into Wikivoyage, which we really can't allow)
 * So thanks for clearing up the issue. Could you please go to Image:Sea lions.jpg and click "edit this page" and add a copyright message from yourself.
 * Lastly, I'd just like to say it's a great image and thank you very much for sharing it with us! -- (WT-en) Colin 23:50, 24 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Hello TUser, I like your sea lions picture, too, but not so much in the Lima article. See Talk:Lima for details. Maybe, sizing down your picture was not the best idea, although the Project:Image policy strongly recommends sizes with the smaller side below 250 pixels. But since we have the thumb feature in Wikivoyage, it seems to have become common standard to upload bigger images and use thumbs in the articels, what really has som advantages. So I did in the Lima article, too. -- (WT-en) Hansm 07:15, 2004 Sep 25 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tusker

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Please note that only one link (if any) at the top region is appropriate. See our external link policy. Thanks. -(WT-en) OldPine 07:49, 23 February 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tuvstuananh

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User talk:(WT-en) Tux99

Hello, Tux99! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

And thanks for your edits to Kuopio! --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:31, 7 July 2009 (EDT)

 * Sorry, we list nine cities per country, no more. If you want to change the list, please state your case on Talk:Finland. (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:29, 25 August 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TVerBeek

User talk:(WT-en) TVerBeek/archives

CotW unscheduled nominations are getting a bit thin!
We could do with a few more suggestions for articles that could be future CotWs, so if you know of any please be sure to add them to the list! Thanks -- (WT-en) Tim (writeme!) 08:02, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

Armenia (Colombia)
Thanks for moving that stuff to the Spanish page where it belongs. Unfortunately, practically all of it was copied from the official tourism website (www.turismoquidio.com), so I ended up removing it again anyway. I figure it is highly unlikely that it was the official tourism agency who copied that text from us. Anyway, thanks again. (WT-en) Texugo 23:23, 7 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Actually, on second thought, I'm sure there is some info to be extracted from the text that won't be copyvio. I'll take another look at it when I have time. (WT-en) Texugo 23:25, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Creation Museum
What are your thoughts on listing the Creation Museum in the Cincinnati guide? The Museum is actually about 22 miles outside of Cincinnati (subtract about five miles from where Google takes you) and from what I understand Petersburg, KY would not constitute an article. We could list it in either Hebron (Kentucky) which is where the CVG airport is, or possibly even Lawrenceberg (Indiana), but no one is likely to think Indiana when they go looking for this museum. I guess a short one liner could be included in the Cincinnati guide, but, in my humble opinion, that's pushing it. I know we don't have a Hebron guide, yet, but I could get something started and just shuffle the listing into that guide, but for now I've listed it in Northern Kentucky. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 13:23, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

 * I put it in the Cincy guide because it seemed like the nearest real destination, being in the metro area. I don't have a problem with putting it elsewhere, but I'm not sure that Hebron's  an actual destination any more than Petersburg is.  Until someone develops the local region hierarchy, Northern Kentucky is probably the best place for it. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 13:37, 8 June 2007 (EDT)

Cuzco
Sounds ok to me to rename itinerary. (WT-en) Celticevergreen 01:28, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

County Redirection
Hi Todd, I noticed you are doing redirects for counties in Illinois. I am wondering if you have a new plan for region breakdown? I know your aversion for creating articles for small places and also using government areas for places that are small, but should we not discuss this and come to a consensus? For the most part counties have been used as place markers for cities to keep the list size down in larger regions. I am not around as much lately, so I may have missed it, has the policy changed? I know I felt that counties were not very good at one point, but have changed my thoughts on that. If there is a discussion on this somewhere, let me know as I would like to chime in for the little places. *grin* Thanks. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 10:36, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
 * I admit that I don't have a master plan. I was just trying to fix a couple badly-named new articles, and decided to pick up a little trash I saw in the neighborhood.  I think it's counterproductive to create county articles as "place markers", because that discourages people from coming up with something better.  I'd rather see a list of 15 towns in a region until someone figures out a good way to organize them, than to have an empty (except for a list of one or two towns) county article sit there as a (not very good) example of How We Do Things.  For that matter, I don't think that having a list of 15 towns at the bottom level of the hierarchy is really such a bad thing. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 11:12, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
 * We really do need a master plan, I will join in on the discussion. I agree with you that having more then 9 listed is not really a bad thing on some levels as well, but we must do it in an organized way and not just redirect or delete because it is a small place. Some of the changes you have made are leaving behind some of what I call "hidden" orphaned pages as that may appear on a dab page or a link in a description or talk page, but not as a town in a region article. I don't know all the answers, but I will defend articles for small places and argue that there are some people that would travel there and would like to know about them, regardless if there is commercial place where you have to pay to sleep or not. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 11:34, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Plymouth (Illinois)
There is a place there to sleep and it is a Bed and Breakfast. I also don't believe it qualifies under the speedy delete policy. I am going to undelete this one and add content for that sometime today and if you like, please put it up for VFD. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 11:34, 10 June 2007 (EDT)
 * It looked like one of the worthless articles created by the spaz from Maine to waste our time. I can't confirm whether he's the one who created it, but I can now confirm that it has successfully wasted our time.  I'm not wasting any more of mine on it. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 12:39, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

New search engine
I'd love to get your opinion on the new search engine on review (http://wikivoyage.org/review/Special:Search). When you get a chance, please check it out and give your feedback on wts:WtTech:Lucene search. --(WT-en) Evan 12:46, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

User:64.222.199.130
With summer vacation our page-creation friend has returned, but provided we simply delete any useless articles he creates he seems pretty harmless. It's also worth noting that the IP address resolves to a center for kids with behavioral issues in Portland, so it's possible his persistence in returning to create empty articles stems from spending his summer stuck in a rather uninteresting place. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 21:59, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Having a neurological disorder of some kind has always been his excuse, and I've believed him because it certainly fits his behavior. I'm a little surprised they don't have him better supervised online, though I suppose the staff probably figure the internet's a mostly-harmless diversion for him as long as he isn't surfing porn sites. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:34, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

UniversalWikiEditButton
I just left you a note here UWEB:Status/TVerBeek. peace, (WT-en) TedErnst

Split pages
Todd, you had some comments about the plan to tech:optionally split long guides into one page per section. Since I've got a new version of software on review: to do this, I'd love to get your feedback on the shared: tech page. --(WT-en) Evan 13:28, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

Project:Welcome, business owners
Hello,

I just saw this page you started today. I personally do not like the idea of someone who owns a business writing for Wikivoyage (about his hotel/restaurant/bar) at all, but before starting a new discussion on this: has there already been a discussion? --(WT-en) Flip666 writeme! • 16:31, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

 * I don't recall that it's ever been discussed, because it's implicitly permitted by the principle that "anyone can contribute". As long as they follow the content guidelines, why should they be prohibited? - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 23:52, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

WB
Good to see you around. Welcome back. -- (WT-en) OldPine 15:09, 30 November 2007 (EST)

 * The employer that's been taking up most of my time for the past few months... we've had a parting of the ways. So I have a little more time for stuff like Wikivoyage now. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 19:52, 30 November 2007 (EST)
 * Ahh. Your back. Welcome back, I did need some photo work done, but could not find you, so I upgraded my computer and SW. I thought maybe a bear bushwacked you and had you for lunch. (WT-en) 2old 10:59, 5 December 2007 (EST)

Poke!
Check out Project:Manual of style for the US -- I'd appreciate any input you have on the topic. -- (WT-en) Colin 23:42, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

Map of San Serriffe
Is there some special software you used to make it? I'm interested in producing something similar. 80.123.210.172 14:07, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

 * Todd probably created that in Inkscape . Project:How to draw a map has some tips on how to get started on a WT-style map drawn with that program. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:16, 12 September 2009 (EDT)

 * Thanks for the info. 80.123.210.172 06:04, 13 September 2009 (EDT)

Star article icon
Hey Todd, firstly I'd like to say that your presence here is sorely missed! Secondly, do you have an SVG for Image:Star-icon.png? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:55, 2 November 2009 (EST)

Pic help
Hey there...I'll take you up on your image upload help! I can't seem to upload any images. I am logged in, go to Help, How to, Upload images, Upload page...and then each time I try to click on that page, I become logged out and the page doesn't recognize my screen name when I attempt to log back in. Is this because my IP is China-based? I'd like to be able to upload some pics but not sure why I'm having these issues! Using latest version of Firefox 3; cleared cache, have cookies enabled...hmm...thanks in advance for any help!(WT-en) Zepppep 17:59, 21 December 2009 (EST)

 * Resolved. I didn't sign up for an account (can you say "airhead?") although this isn't really disclosed until much deeper into the pages than I would like to see. Just wanted to update you in case you were pondering a response (I think you were probably not looking to respond but appreciate your offer for help about 2.5 yrs ago on my talk page).(WT-en) Zepppep 14:11, 7 January 2010 (EST)

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