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Talk:Cork

Hey rebel with a cause. If you have more info about the buses and trains that serve Cork, can you put it in the article - even just the names of the places that can be directly reached from Cork would be helpful? Thanks (WT-en) WindHorse 3 March 06

Train info has been expanded. Busses are more complicated, but I'll get to it... (WT-en) Rebel 26-March-06

Note: Lennox's Chip Shop on Bandon Road, is not on Barrack Street and is not the same people as the one on Angelsea Street, afaik. Rebel. 26-March-06

Deleted Capella Castlemartyr from the hotel listings because it is no longer open or a Capella property.

The stay safe section is nonsense. I;ve seen more fights in Spain and Portugal than I ever have in Ireland.

The Clarion has suffered drop in standers in recent times. after staying there in December and found it not to be as good as described in the article and would like it to be moved to mid range

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even if i am interested in tourist relevant topics, i would prefer to have pub crawl related, clear advertisement deleted from this page. if i am looking for such thing, ill find it myself. there is no need to have it on wikivoyage. best regards seb --92.225.88.20 12:35, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

Remaining tasks
It looks to me like the most pressing tasks are putting in a map and making a pagebanner. Is there anything else you think is needed before we can nominate this article for Destination of the Month? The article has room for another photo or possibly two, if they would help the article, but it's already well illustrated. Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:04, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Breadcrumb
So, does this belong under East Cork or West Cork? Texugo (talk) 18:19, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

 * The city is it's own entity and doesn't belong to a region in my opinion. --Donal.hunt (talk) 23:14, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

 * Every single destination article on Wikivoyage belongs to a region of some description; see the Crumbs page for more information on how this works. And welcome to Wikivoyage. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the welcome! I don't understand why the Cork article can't just be a direct child of County Cork? The Crumbs page seems to suggest that the organisation of pages is up to the community as long as it makes sense. Other cities in Ireland are direct child's of the their county pages (albeit they mostly don't have distinct areas within their own counties).
 * It can't be a direct child of County Cork, because our Co Cork region article has subregions (West Cork, North Cork and East Cork). City articles are always the "children" of the lowest regional division. This policy may seem strange, but it is consistent; even New York City is the direct child of a subregion called Metro New York, rather than being a child of New York (state) or even the Mid-Atlantic region.
 * The only way to change Cork city's position would be to propose doing away with the three subregions of Co Cork, and just having one large article for the county, which might make sense. However, we generally try to have no more than nine city articles in a given region, and a merged Co Cork article would have 17 - a bit problematic!
 * If it helps at all, Cork city is listed very prominently both on County Cork and indeed on the Ireland article, because it is an important city. A city's placement in the hierarchy doesn't affect where it can be listed. Hence NYC is listed under 'Cities' at every level on the hierarchy between Metro New York at the bottom and North America at the top.
 * I hope this makes sense? Let me know if not :) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:04, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * 19 articles is still acceptable for a bottom level region and the spread at the moment is not particularly good. As there is little information in the sub-regions of Cork County I think it would be a good idea to have just one region. --Traveler100 (talk) 03:02, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * Looking at those articles, I'm inclined to agree. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:08, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * merged up the sub-regions, one paragraph about West Cork moved into Cork County. May need to look at redoing that section. --Traveler100 (talk) 09:14, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Event guide?
Hi guys, Dara here from Rebel City Tour in Cork city. Ive created an event guide for Cork city ie. The best events over the next 7 days. I'll add the best deals for travelers to the guide soon. Would you consider featuring this guide?

Id love to add a link to wikivoyage on my blog in return?

https://rebelcitytour.com/guide/

Keep up the great work. :-) Dbee01 (talk) 05:45, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

 * Very nice offer, Dara, but I'm sorry to say it wouldn't be in keeping with the what not to link to guidelines on this site. If you'd like to add some information to this article on a purely volunteer basis to help travellers, that would be wonderful, but your blog can't be linked in the article, unless a consensus develops on this talk page to make an exception for it, and that's hard for me to imagine, as we prefer for our guides to be as complete as possible, rather than to refer readers to other guides. However, you could try making an argument for how information on your blog couldn't possibly be added here even though it's valuable to travellers.

 * All the best,

 * Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * thanks Ikan. I completely understand your point-of -view. My motto when it comes to online, open communities is - give more than you receive. Just thought I'd check beforehand.
 * Some background: The idea behind the guide is to pick out the best events and deals for travelers to Cork over the coming 7 days. This would be hard for you guys to duplicate no? I'm a local guide :-) I'd have to update your wiki on an hourly basis - forever :-( Dbee01 (talk) 06:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Understood. Let's hear from some other users. Should we allow a link? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:09, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's certainly better than programming a bot to update the article manually. -- SHB2000  (t | c | m) 11:31, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks SHB :-) Just to reiterate, these are events (and deals) chosen by me personally to appeal to travellers to the city. Dbee01 (talk) 11:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Google Ranking of WikiVoyage?
Guys, i know this is probably a discussion for another forum and it's probably been discussed-to-death previously many times. However, I'm wondering why the for-profit original version of the TravelWiki ranks above this one on Google? I've done a bit of background research ie. read Reddit. And people seem to think it's a duplicate content / canonical issue. I know more about SEO than most guys. I'm genuinely curious as to how the community here are approaching this problem? Dbee01 (talk) 12:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

 * Weird, because the rankings on this page show That Other Site That Shall Not Be Named as a walking corpse. I do agree with your point, though. SHB2000  (t | c | m) 12:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks @SHB2000 the google SERPS for me in Cork City show [that site] as ranking first on the SERPS (Search Engine Results Page) :-( https://ibb.co/4MDF89H Dbee01 (talk) 12:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * BTW SimilarWeb is garbage IMO. Bordering on criminal. Dbee01 (talk) 12:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I do miss the Alexa rankings :-(. SHB2000  (t | c | m) 23:33, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * alexa++  me2. Lol. Dbee01 (talk) 09:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

The photo choices aren't very good?
Just my opinion guys...

 * the banner pic is just a row of houses; could be anywhere.
 * the second pic; St. Finbarr's in Cork rocks!
 * the pic of the train station kinda socks
 * the Patrick's St. Pic is ok-ish
 * I like the St. Anne's Church pic
 * the castle pic should be blarney castle ie. Kiss the stone fame
 * the rugby pic should be native Irish sports (GAA) Cork team
 * the last 3 could be improved also
 * the pub pic - the brog, is really, really old

I have some pics, I can release them under CC. Non-branded of course. They'd really spruce up this page... Dbee01 (talk) 15:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

 * That would be great! The easiest way for us to use photos is if they are uploaded to Commons. Replacing photos with clearly better photos usually doesn't require discussion, but replacing pagebanners requires discussion. The usual procedure is to put thumbnails of the existing pagebanner and any proposed replacement banners on the talk page for the article in question and wait a few days for responses, to see if there's a consensus to keep or replace the banner. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * some suggestions; my images...
 * https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListFiles/Dbee01&ilshowall=1 Dbee01 (talk) 21:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Go ahead and add or sub any thumbnails you like in the article (as long as there aren't too many images, overall, per Image policy). I didn't see a pagebanner, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:29, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ive changed some of the photos guys. This is my nomination for banner pic... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Failte_go_Corcaigh.jpg Dbee01 (talk) 03:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. For everyone's convenience:
 * Cork banner.jpg
 * Failte go Corcaigh.jpg
 * I think the current banner is much more interesting to look at, so though I have yet to visit Cork, I'd favor keeping the current banner. The dimensions also look wrong in the proposed replacement. Do they conform to Banner Expedition? It appears not, as 800 x 7 would be 5,600. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:59, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Ikan. I can resize the resolution of the photo no problem. To conform to the proper size. My only issue with the present banner is that it could depict any urban area in Ireland or the UK for that matter. Fáilte is Gaelic for welcome. The corresponding translations denote Cork as a welcming destination for travelers. Id propose changing this banner. I'll wait for a quorum though. Dbee01 (talk) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand your point, and I could be persuaded to support changing the banner, but as I said, I don't think your proposed replacement is that interesting an image. No offense, I hope. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * -) no offense taken. I see your point. Give me some time and I'll think up a replacement image that suits this banner resolution. With the communities support, we'll improve this banner... Dbee01 (talk) 09:46, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Corner Brook

I think this is a really well done article-- nice work! 202.136.70.78 23:11, 24 Dec 2004 (EST)

Thanks. I do my best. ;) (WT-en) JB 12:39 PM, 6 Jan 2005 (Newfoundland ST)

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Talk:Cornwall

Get Out
Regarding the text of the Get Out section, I believe it is supposed to be nightlife tips (pubs, bars etc) - not guidelines for escaping from Cornwall :)

 * Nightlife goes in the 'Drink' section. Get Out is for daytrips or the next in a series of destinations. -- (WT-en) Colin 18:23, 31 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Cornwall is a Duchy...
Yes, it is... but geographically, it's an English county west of Devon. The Duchy of Cornwall is a separate entity, comprising of the land owned by the Duke. Geographically most of the duchy is in Devon with other properties elsewhere in England.90.199.106.210 18:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)Mark Steele90.199.106.210 18:47, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing that out. I have made the changes, but encourage you to correct any errors you see in Wikivoyage articles-- Wikivoyage is the travel guide that you can edit. Ground Zero (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Too many settlements
Why are there no subregions for Cornwall? There are at least 40 destinations listed in this region. One suggested way to divide up the region is by using the former local government areas: Caradon, Carrick, Kerrier, North Cornwall, Penwith, and Restormel. I am not an expert on the region and I have never even visited Europe, so feedback by those more experienced in the region is strongly suggested. JsfasdF252 (talk) 00:55, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

 * I am not sure that is necessary. I can't think of any other English counties which have been divided into sub-regions. Although it is many years since I visited Cornwall, I don't think that the former local government areas are clear on the ground. The rest of the article is well developed and I think that most of it applies to the whole county. AlasdairW (talk) 23:28, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Per WV:Avoid long lists, we probably should at least consider splitting up some of the English county articles into smaller regions, though like you I don't think the former local government districts that were abolished in 2009 are the answer.

 * The easy version of splitting would simply be to break up the Cities list with subheadings.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 08:03, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Which can be done in anticipation of a real split. Easier to do the real split sensibly if it has been tried out at this page. –LPfi (talk) 10:18, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

 * Cornwall does not have any really big cities, so any splitting of the country has to be using artificial boundaries. The old districts would be sensible, except that their names do not mean anything to anybody. However the parliamentary constituencies might be useful - there are six in all (listed from west to east):
 * St Ives
 * Camborne and Redruth
 * Truro and Falmouth
 * St Austell and Newquay
 * South East Cornwall
 * North Cornwall
 * These names are all meaningful, except that for touristic purposes I would rename "St Ives" to "St Ives and Lands End". Also, the Scilly Isles are part of the St Ives constituency, but for WIkivoyage purposes they are separate from Cornwall.
 * Martinvl (talk) 21:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

I drove the coastline of Cornwall a few years ago, as one does. I think from a traveller's perspective, a simpler grouping of Cornwall North Coast, Cornwall South Coast, and Western Cornwall, would be more intuitive. The A30 splits the eastern part in two, and the western tip (from Falmouth and Redruth to Lands End) is a practical region. Each of these sub-regions is driverless in a day. I've changed the marker colours to illustrate the grouping for this discussion. Ground Zero (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Cornwall North Coast:
 * (Cornish: Bosvena) – Market town and former county town of Cornwall
 * (Cornish: Porthbud) – Fishing village and holiday resort on the north coast of Cornwall
 * (Cornish: Lannstevan)
 * (Cornish: Tewynblustri) – Former fishing village, now surf capital of the UK and home to Cornwall's principal airport.
 * (Cornish: Lannwedhenek) – Fishing village and holiday resort on Cornwall's north coast.
 * (Cornish: Porthperan) – a seaside resort town backed by extensive sand dunes which reach nearly a mile inland
 * (Cornish: S. Colom Veur)
 * (Cornish: Ponswad)
 * (Cornish: Kastel Boterel) – scenic fishing village with the Museum of Witchcraft and Magic
 * (Cornish: Porthysek) – seaside village, often used as a filming location
 * (Cornish: Resrudh) – world capital of tin mining
 * (Cornish: Pennmeyn)
 * (Cornish: Breanek)
 * (Cornish: Tre war Venydh) – legendary birthplace of King Arthur and seat of the Kings of Cornwall

Cornwall South Coast:
 * (Cornish: Truru) – Cornwall's main administrative centre, county town and only city.
 * (Cornish: Porthbugh)
 * (Cornish: Aberfala or Peny-cwm-cuic)
 * (Cornish: Fowydh)
 * (Cornish: Logh)
 * (Cornish: Lostwydhyel)
 * (Cornish: Essa) – "Gateway to Cornwall", a small town on the Cornwall side of the Tamar crossings.
 * (Cornish: S. Austel) – largest town in the county and home to the Eden Project, the world's largest greenhouse
 * (Cornish: Porth Meur) – seaside town used as filming location for the TV show Poldark
 * (Cornish: Lannvorek) – picturesque hillside fishing village
 * (Cornish: An Porth)
 * (Cornish: Porthpyra)

Western Cornwall:
 * (Cornish: Porthkajwydh)
 * (Cornish: Heyl)
 * (Cornish: Hellys)
 * (Cornish: Marhasyow) – Home of St Michael's Mount
 * (Cornish: Lulyn)
 * (Cornish: Pennsans) – pirate central, Penzance is a town long-associated with the arts
 * (Cornish: Porth Ia) – artists' "colony" and home to a branch of the Tate Gallery
 * (Cornish: Lannust)
 * (Cornish: Porthenys)
 * (Cornish: Penn Din or Boskaswal Wartha)
 * (Cornish: Pluwveryan)
 * (Cornish: Selevan)
 * (Cornish: Selevan)

 * (Cornish: Sen Senar)

 * That looks a reasonable split. It might be better to just have "North Cornwall" and "South Cornwall", as some of the towns (eg Launceston or Lostwithiel) aren't on the coast. AlasdairW (talk) 23:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * "North Cornwall", "South Cornwall" and "West Cornwall" seem fine. We should however let the reader know that these divisions are our divisions. We should also give a clear defintion of what we mean by "West Cornwall" Martinvl (talk) 22:34, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm okay with North, South, West nomenclature. Ground Zero (talk) 03:44, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * +1. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 04:27, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

I have begun implementing this proposal. The subregion articles are fairly slim at this point. I would appreciate help from others in fill those articles out. I have selected 9 towns and villages that stuck out in my mind to keep in the Cornwall article. Are these the best ones?

The bad news is that Devon is just as bad as Cornwall was. I don't ont know Devon as well. Ground Zero (talk) 21:06, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Nice work. And thank you :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Cornish names
I am going to remove the Cornish names in the list of towns: Ground Zero (talk) 13:49, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * 1) the Cornish names should be are included in the destination articles; including them in the region article adds to the clutter of the page
 * 2) this is English Wikivoyage, not Cornish Wikivoyage
 * 3) signage always has the English name on it
 * 4) everyone in Cornwall speaks English
 * 5) only 500 people in the UK consider Cornish to be their primary language

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Talk:Coroico

I've rewritten the "get in" section as most of the info about biking down is now in La Paz (It's more a daytrip from La Paz as it is a way to get into Coroico).

Riding down the World's Most Dangerous Road is definitely one of the highlights of visiting Bolivia, but is not without the obvious risks. On average, two motorists are killed every month on this road, which drops over 3000 meters down over a 3 - 4 hour bike ride. There have also been 8 bike riders killed on this road over the last 8 years. You won't notice most of the crosses that line the road until your tale a bus ride back up (56 at last count), but the bus ride is definitely the most dangerous part of this journey. However, the statistics are not necessarily bullet-proof, as the majority of accidents occur during the wet season (October to March). Biking down this road in the dry season much safer by comparison.

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Disambig, etc.
Which city is bigger, Coronado, California or Coronado, Panama? I've known about the city in Panama for decades but wasn't aware of the one in California. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Clearly Panama. Like you, I've also never heard of the US city named Coronado until now. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 22:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Does anyone want to push back on the idea of making Coronado (Panama) Coronado and making Coronado, California Coronado (California) instead of the default Coronado? Would anyone like to argue for a disambig page with two subpages? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * At the very least, Coronado, California, US, should not be the default Coronado. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 23:18, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Any views on this, PerryPlanet, Wrh2, Pnaha0, Traveler100, Ground Zero, Robvann? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:32, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Two of the users who you pinged haven't edited since 2020, FTR. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 10:58, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I saw that but hoped they might see this, anyway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:04, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think Coronado, California is "so much more famous" than the others that it meets the standards outlined at Naming conventions, but I also don't think Coronado, Panama meets that threshold, so if it was up to me I'd disambiguate both and make Coronado a disambiguation page. -- Ryan • (talk) • 21:03, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * OK with me. What do others think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:12, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
 * +1 for a disambiguation page, even though I've never heard of the Panamanian one, I agree that California shouldn't be the default Pnaha0 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * makes sense to me :-) Robvann (talk) 10:41, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I think we can make the change tomorrow, if no-one objects. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

 * OK, I'm going to make a disambiguation page. That needn't be the final word. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:29, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the move, ! -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 06:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:22, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Corozal Town

Does anyone know about the Caribbean Village just south of town?

Yes, the Caribbean Village used to exist on the south end of Corozal Town. It does not have any cabins now. It is just a place for camping and parking your RV and spending sometime in front of the Corozal Bay. if you are thinking about organizing yourself coming to Belize I can certainly give you a hand by contacting me. I have a website and I do take care of people trying to visit Belize, whether you are here for Tourism purpose, to live or simply business. My website is www.Belizetraveguide.me and you may contact me at regg29@yahoo.com. Looking foward to hearing from you soon.

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Talk:Corpus Christi

This is sounding a lot more like a travel brochure than a travel guide. I was originally suspicious that it was copied from somewhere, but Google doesn't seem to be locating any of the key phrases. What's the deal? --(WT-en) Evan 14:53, 28 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * You were correct, but your google-fu was weak: try . 207.134.56.158 15:33, 20 Feb 2006 (EST)

Took out Christy Estates under Sleep as they no longer have hotel spa suites, just regular long term apartments. —The preceding comment was added by 76.16.70.27 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 22 July 2011

Photos with the photographer's name on them
This article is unusual in having a bunch of photos with the photographer's name on them. I've seen that other users like User:Texugo routinely remove such images from Wikivoyage articles, but I don't know where there's a page showing that such photos are preferably not used in this guide. Should we try to find substitutes for the remaining photographs with names on them? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:50, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't know if that policy is written down anywhere, but I also thought it looked out of place having a guy's name all over the photos. – Thatotherperson talk contribs  10:33, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

 * Looking at the image in question, it should be within the license to create a new picture with the lowest 5% cut off. Just as long as attribution is maintained in the new image's page on WikiMedia. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:27, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

 * There were 4 such images until I deleted the one in "Go next"; now there are 3. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:31, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

 * I was wrong: There were 5, and now there are 3. There just are not enough good photos of Corpus Christi - particularly these subjects - on Commons. Someone who knows the city well (I've never been there) might decide to replace some of the images in question with photos of other subjects - or to cut the name off, as Andrewssi2 suggests. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:08, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Corsica

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As I understood it, the sentence about renting a car referred to going from an airport to a big city, not getting around in a big city, and should therefore be in Get in. -(WT-en) phma 07:18, 29 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * It talks about more than one aiport, so I thought the information about car rental was meant to talk about getting around the island (either between airports and cities, between cities). Perhaps I'm wrong. --(WT-en) Dawnview 11:41, 29 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Never mind, I just looked at the original page in French, you're right. I'll go fix it. --(WT-en) Dawnview 11:42, 29 Feb 2004 (EST)

Over-regionified?
There are currently 10 cities on the island for which we have an article. Is there a reason we need to split this into the current Upper Corsica and South Corsica regions? Anything about the island as a whole can be said here, and those two department articles are empty container articles anyway, with nothing to merge, and even if they were written, I doubt there would be that many difference to highlight between the two halves of the island. Shouldn't we just put the city articles directly under here in the hierarchy and redirect the departement names here? Texugo (talk) 19:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Just back from the island. I do believe splitting the article into two departments does not make sense. The Michelin guide I used splits it into nine areas (centered around Bastia, St. Florent, Calvi, Cargese, Corte, Ajaccio, Bonifacio, Porto Vecchio, and Aleria) most of which can be given their original names (for instance, the area aroung Calvi is Balagne or Balagna, depending on whether we want to use French or Corsican). I guess either a splitting like this would work, if we have enough details to add, or we can just leave the island as a single unit.--Ymblanter (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Regions
Any opposition to just redirecting the "regions" of Corsica here until further notice? Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:46, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge the cities that aren't mentioned here and redirect. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:50, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Corsican regions
Apparently the topic of merging Corsica's regions into the main article was raised as early as 2014 with no conclusive result. If nobody objects, can I merge them in one week's time? Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:48, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

 * How about tomorrow? I wouldn't wait more than about 24 hours. I can't see a good reason not to merge. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:49, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
 * So I got no objections, I think I will just go ahead right now. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:32, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

In similar spirit, I propose:

1) taking Cap Corse & Nonza into a paragraph under Bastia: that area would always be visited as a day trip by road from Bastia

2) taking Propiano into a paragraph on ancient megaliths under Ajaccio, as those are the reason you'd be there

- both with cross-refs from adjacent towns Grahamsands (talk) 09:41, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Buses
It appears that inter-city bus services in Corsica have disintegrated, so train is the only direct option eg between Bastia & Ajaccio. Can this be confirmed, and is it worth a warning box? I'll invite the French site moderator to comment. Grahamsands (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

 * This rather retro-looking website for a bus company is still live and claims to offer "regular bus routes serving the main villages and most beautiful beaches" from different towns on the island, but there is no indication whether the service is current. Rather ominously, the timetable page is "currently undergoing modification", which suggests that there may be no regular services anymore.

 * Then, I found this company, which does appear to still be operating regular bus routes, with current (dated) timetables readily accessible.

 * Bear in mind that I'm only working on what the websites (found through Google) say; I don't know Corsica and haven't been there. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:15, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Sorry, the above link doesn't run between Ajaccio and Bastia. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:56, 18 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I see that Corsica Bus (unofficial) has recently updated its bus & train info, so the situation's not as bad as I feared. Early October I actually saw buses and trains running on the island; but a public transport company that doesn't publish timetables is raising a red flag about its competence and survival. I'll encourage the Corsica Bus author to contribute to Wikivoyage. Grahamsands (talk) 18:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

That's a good idea. Companies without timetables are definitely suspicious. By the way, I wanted to thank you for the work you've been doing on this article. There aren't many Wikivoyagers working on French regions, and the additions you're making are top notch, and definitely adding value to our coverage of the island. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:35, 27 October 2017 (UTC) ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:35, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

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Major makeover
I gave this phrasebook a major makeover. What do you think about my efforts? (WT-en) CurvyEthyl 17:16, 23 September 2010 (EDT)

A major makeover? Brullicheghja di sbagli... Ùn sò troppu cunvinta d'i to "sforzi"! Hè una scelta cusciente/glottopulitica d'imbulighjà cismuntincu è pumuntincu incù - ma chì hè - spagnolu, purtughese, francese ? --(WT-en) MArilena 18:47, 7 February 2012 (EST)

title: Talk:Corsican phrasebook


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Talk:Cortez

pictures free at google maps search cortez. --(WT-en) Corbear 07:40, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Cortina d'Ampezzo

The photo shown is NOT the Cinque Torre. I have a better photo but I need to work out how to replace it. (WT-en) Ericwoods 06:33, 16 December 2011 (EST)

New pagebanner request
I think the old banner doesn't look unique enough and too many articles on WikiVoyage related to mountain towns have a picture of... a mountain, just a mountain. Cortina is also a small town underneath Cinque Torri that has a church which resembles the place so the banner should feature the symbol of Cortina with some mountains behind it. Jankela121 (talk) 16:01, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I've made the banners bigger and placed them in the centre of the page. The new banner, though more interesting, is quite low resolution, and is darker. I prefer the old one, for now at least.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:03, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Yes, keep the old banner per Thundering. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:08, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I've switched the order, as the old banner often comes first, as I remember. (Though that may not be the way I did it myself in the past.) I prefer the old banner per other votes. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 22:00, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

2020 New page banner request
I'm making a new page banner request for the same reason as the previous one. Can this banner replace the current one? Jankela121 (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

 * I would really like to support more than one of your current nominations, but I still prefer the current banner because it's more striking. Banners can be very hard to compose. The new one feels squashed from the top to my eyes. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:17, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

 * Yes, the mountains are striking, but I can’t really recognize Cortina on the current banner as someone who’s been there. The mountain shapes look somewhat familiar, but it’s just mountains. It could be mixed up with some other mountains. Maybe I should find something better, but WikiMedia Commons didn’t offer much. Jankela121 (talk) 08:32, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

 * I understand. But why is the proposed new banner now red-linked? Perhaps you could find a freely licensed photo on another site. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:37, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
 * My bad, sorry! I was confused with what copyright symbols needed to be the same. The image was from Flickr. Jankela121 (talk) 07:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Corvallis (Oregon)

Chocolate
Err, I agree that the text was copyvio, but I think it's a little much to say that traveller's wouldn't be interested in the place. So I'm going to add the listing back in. Different folks do different things on their trips: some eat chocolate. (WT-en) Majnoona 13:25, 22 June 2006 (EDT) (EDT)

Get around
Need to dig out the actual information from these links:

 * The City of Corvallis also has a few Transportation Services, that you can use.
 * Oregon State University offers a Saferide program to get around when it gets a bit too late to walk home by yourself.

Hewlett-Packard
I believe the two main "attractions" in Corvallis are the university, and the HP plant, which I believe specializes in printers and calculators. Not sure what to say about HP or if it's relevant to most travellers (I went there on business repeatedly).--(WT-en) justfred 15:05, 12 October 2006 (EDT)

Banner
I added to the spiffy new pagebanner template. The was taken in Corvallis, and I think it looks nicer than the generic default image. Admittedly, the image isn't really instantly identifiable as being related to the city. I also considered the, but it looked too busy and distracting for my tastes. If anybody has a better idea, by all means, go for it. Grayfell (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Urban Laundry
Reported as closed....

Cope
What is this subheading, why is it called cope? It has a mechanic and a hospital under it. 2601:1C0:8300:BC80:DC02:8B70:A92A:5596 19:15, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Costa Brava

Girona (province) redirects here, but Costa Brava is the name for the cost line of the province of Girona, excluding all the inland places. It's save to say Costa Brava is a part of Girona (province). Most visitors go to the cost, So most travel agents talk about Costa Brava, instead of the province. --(WT-en) Rein N. 11:43, 23 May 2011 (EDT)
 * It's a factor of granularity of the Spanish regional structure I guess. Where else would you suggest Girona (province) redirects?--(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:50, 23 May 2011 (EDT)

 * The next level up can be the regio Catalonia witch has four provinces Girona, Barcelona and two others. The Costa's are a marketing tool for tourism. Relevant for us travelers and the tourist industry only. so for Wikivoyage. I see short advertisements like: "3 chamb. appartment, Costa Brava, From 78€ pp" in my country, The Netherlands --(WT-en) Rein N. 02:30, 24 May 2011 (EDT)

reverted edit
Hi.

I added several places of interest to vosta brava page. I don't know why they were reverted. The issue with the list is the places, the amount of detail, or the list itself???

In my understanding those places where impotant for travelers Mmorell (talk) 19:44, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

 * please check out our WV:Where you can stick it and WV:Listings policies. Attractions like these go only in their cities' articles. You can disagree and debate in their talk pages, if you so desire. Thanks for understanding. Ibaman (talk) 19:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Costa del Sol

If you are staying in Riviera del Sol on the Costa del Sol, Spain then have a look at this very informative website, which not only gives you info on Riviera del Sol, but the many places and attractions in the area. The name of the site is: www.rivieradelsol.co.uk.

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Talk:Costa Rica

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Costa Rica/CIA World Factbook 2002 import

Cities list Change Suggestion
I would suggest taking out Dominical from this list - Quepos and Golfito are much bigger than Dominical. It is not the largest in the South Pacific. Also would suggest to change "Quesada" to "Cuidad Quesada". This is the proper name for that town. --(WT-en) Rohrmoser 21:32, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

Weird Link
When I click on San Jose from the Costa Rica page I get a different San Jose than when I click it in the Central Valley page. One tells me it is a redirect. Please check. --(WT-en) Rohrmoser 21:32, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

Crime
Whoever wrote the stay safe section is greatly overstaing Costa Rica's crime problem. (In relation to the pages of other, much more dangerous central American countries.)

 * FALSE !! Costa Rica crime rate is HIGHER than one of Nicaragua and Panama, statistics of overall crime and murders are HIGHER than these 2 countries.

Costa Rica is an extremely dangerous country for crime. I have been robbed 6 times in few months gunpoint in "safe" areas. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 84.220.173.228 (talk • contribs)

 * Dont listen to this guy... his IP: 84.220.173.228 (Italian) has been posting comments trashing Costa Rica... he is just a troll Please don't feed the troll. Besides, someone who gets robbed 6 times over a short period in a safe area shouldn't travel at all...(WT-en) Daniel32708 18:33, 11 March 2010 (EST)

is safe to visit costa rica? Erik

Yes Erik it is MORE than safe, I have lived here over 5+ years coming from Toronto I feel safer here than I ever did in Toronto. I've NEVER been robbed in all my years here and FREQUENTLY take public tranportation. email me if you have any questions TeacherAshleigh@Hotmail.com

Traffic
How dangerous is the traffic exactly, when I went round CR the traffic seemed pretty good really, didn't see anything approaching an incident. Is this based on some source that gives it a basis or just an impression?

 * This is Tom Croke (aka Frog One) although I am not logged in. Tico drivers are pretty erratic, ignore stop signs, wrong way on one way streets.  On the road down to the Pacific Ocean, a two lane winding highway, pulling out and passing in places we Amaricans would consider dangerous is commonplace.

 * In addition, streets and even main highways are not well marked. Figuring out where you are going can distract from the job of defensive driving.

 * I drive comfortably in Boston. I have not yet driven in Costa Rica, although I would now do so, after several trips there.

201.225.238.10 10:40, 13 Nov 2005 (EST) Thorwald Westmaas
 * I've lived in Costa Rica for almost 18 years and driving requires you to be VERY alert. Outside San Jose it's usually OK since there is less traffic.  When you drive, remember that every Tico basically drives as if he/she were alone on the road, while talking on his/her cell phone, watching a pretty (or any girl) and avoiding potholes.

 * I edited out the following obvious falsehood from the Rental Car section: "Driving in Costa Rica is, by American standards, dangerous. Costa Rica has one of the highest rates of deaths by car accidents in the world". I replaced it with a referenced statement in the By Car section citing actual traffic death statistics on Wikipedia.  (Better still would be to cite the primary sources that Wikipedia uses; maybe somebody can do that at some point.)  I couldn't get the reference formatting to work right -- if somebody can fix that, that'd be great.

(WT-en) Gould363 23:34, 18 November 2010 (EST)

Prostitution
This section needs a citation of some sort, statistics, etc. Prostitution is legal in Costa Rica, and I would like to see a source that cites "sexplorers" come there to find children. Such activities can be found in most countries in the world; more appropriate would be to say people may be looking for sex with minors in addition to those of age.(WT-en) Amae 11:08, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Renting a locker in San Jose?
Hi all,

My husband and I are traveling to Costa Rica for the first time in March. We fly into the San Jose Int'l airport and immediately catch a regional plane to Drake Bay. After three days there, we fly back to San Jose where we pick up our rental car. We are not staying in San Jose, just flying in and out of it.

Here's the problem: We're allowed one carry on bag that weighs no more than 25 lbs on the regional plane. Therefore, we hope to leave behind a suitcase in San Jose, in a secure location such as a locker, to be retrieved when we come back to get our car. Unfortunately, I can't get a straight answer about the availability of said locker from the dept. of tourism or our regional plane's office.

Have any of you done this? If so, where did you rent a locker? Like I said, we're not staying in SJ, so I really don't want to rent a hotel room just to stash the bag! And traveling in Costa Rica for 12 days w/only one bag weighing 25# is not an option.

Thanks for any help you can provide!! (WT-en) Realtabsd 11:40, 9 January 2008 (EST)

Quality of drinking, bathing water
This article could use a section on the quality of drinking and bathing water for those used to a fairly high standard of sanitariness in the EU or US. It is widely known that drinking Mexican water can result in severe sickness, perhaps worse. A potential visitor to Costa Rica, such as myself, would probably like to know about the condition of the water in this country.

Thank you. And I would add that this looks like a lovely country to visit, but the water issue is an important one to me. 204.116.19.240 20:36, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

We live in the USA but have a home in CR. In all of our travels around the country we always drink right from the tap. Never a problem. I'd be hesitant on a farm with a questionable well right next to a septic field, but the cities with piped water are safe. --(WT-en) Rengewwj 14:20, 18 January 2009 (EST)

You can drink tap water almost anywhere in the country, just avoid drinking it from dirty places such as restrooms or similar. I think this fact should be added somewhere in the main page. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 190.10.31.132 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 25 July 2010

 * I've added a couple of sentences about this to the article, based on reports at this discussion. Anyone familiar with the country is welcome to expand or change them. – (WT-en) Vidimian 03:21, 25 July 2010 (EDT)

'By Car' Error
I have to say that in the By Car section, the statement, "Costa Rica is small so you do not burn a lot of gas getting places even though it seems like forever." isn't true at all. The reason it takes forever to get places is because there are mountains, potholes, and sometimes unpaved roads, all of which use more gas when driving. So a three-hour drive in Costa Rica uses MORE gasoline than a three-hour drive in The States. Yes, there are many more places to visit in a small area, but if that's what you mean, then say that. 98.212.128.94 21:30, 10 June 2008 (CST)

And, what's with the statement about regular vs premium gasoline? We have a car at our home in CR and have never had any problem with regular gas. Neither have our relatives (that live there full time.) I think you must be or have been in an area with dirty underground storage tanks or just an isolated problem. --(WT-en) Rengewwj 14:23, 18 January 2009 (EST)

Cities List - Change
I think that Quesada should be removed and Jacó_(city) be added as Jaco is one of the most popular beach locations and Quesada has minimal tourist value and the page on wikivoyage has 0 information on it.

* San_Jose_(Costa_Rica) - The capital. * Alajuela - location of Juan Santamaría International Airport * Cartago - Costa Rica's first capital * Dominical - the South Pacific coast's largest city, among incredibly biodiversity and natural beauty * Heredia - Coffee plantations * Liberia_(Costa_Rica) - Location of Danuel Oduber International Airport and gateway to the beaches of Guanacaste * Puerto_Limon - Main city on the Caribbean side * Puntarenas - Ferry to Nicoya Peninsula * Quesada - the largest city by far in the country's North, surrounded by hot springs popular with Costa Rican vacationers —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Firestormo (talk • contribs)

 * I'm inclined to support, simply drawing from the fact that the Quesada article in empty, and the Jaco article is rather good... but I don't know anything about Costa Rica --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 21:44, 8 December 2008 (EST)

 * While I am open to changing the list, there are two issues that make me hesitate in supporting this proposal. First, we try to get a representative sample of cities from all the different regions of the country, and Quesada is the one representative city for the Plains of the North. Second, is the contributions history of the person proposing it (Special:Contributions/76.195.60.222), which has been exclusively edits that violate both Project:Don't tout and Project:External links. This contributions history makes me worry that the proposal might be fueled by a desire to attract more readers to the town in which this business does business.

 * As for Jacó, I'm no expert, but I remain unconvinced that this belongs in the top nine list of cities in Costa Rica. It's really just a beach resort town with nothing beyond resort hotels, tourist bars, and surf shops. It also doesn't even have a Spanish language Wikipedia page. Quesada is hardly a big attraction in Costa Rica, but I'm still unsold on this proposal, and would like to hear some concrete arguments (backed by figures) for why Jacó belongs in this list, rather than some other beach resort. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:19, 8 December 2008 (EST)

 * I must say im sorry for not following the rules, It was my understanding that anyone could make mods and I didnt understand why until yesterday my changes kept getting reverted. So i figured out to post here. I understand the logic behind wanting a diverse layout but then at least select a city that has information in the link rather then a link that has little to no value and no information in the link. Jaco beach in Costa Rica is one of the premier beach destinations for the country along the central pacific coast and most other beach cities are just like Jaco in regards to resort hotels, tourist bars, and surf shops that is what Costa Rica is about at the beach. The cities currently in the list represent all areas of Costa Rica except the Central Pacific Coast, You have Liberia for the Northern Pacific Area, Dominical for Southern Pacific, Puerto Limon for the Caribbean, and then some of the larger and better known citys inland, but nothing for the central pacific coast where a good number of the nations tourists visit. As far as numbers from the Instituto Costarricense de Turismo (ICT) they only lists numbers for visitors entering the country not their destination within country or I would have provided the numbers here. --(WT-en) Firestormo Talk 11:37, 9 December 2008 (PST)

 * No worries. We do have a city listed already for the Central Pacific region, and that's Puntarenas. But I've now looked further into this, and it does seem like Jacó is way more busy with nightlife, dining, and even gambling, than the other beach-towns I've been to, so I'd be ok with substituting it for Quesada. Especially since we already have two "other destinations" listed for the Plains of the North.

 * This got me thinking, though. It would be great to have a section of Do that described the beaches throughout the country and gave an overview of what regions are good for what type of beach, and a list of the top beach destinations like Manuel Antonios, Jacó, Tortuguero, Dominical, Tamarindo, etc. I'll set the section up, and it would be great if you could help add some information. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:55, 9 December 2008 (EST)

 * I see the section you added under Do and I am more then happy to add more info when I return, I am leaving for Costa Rica in 3 hours so its off to the Airport and when I get back in 6 weeks, I will add some more detailed info about the different beach areas that I am familiar with as I have been to a good portion of the areas on the list you made already. --(WT-en) Firestormo Talk 9:13, 11 December 2008 (PST)

Cell phones
Article states FALSE. prepaid sim card ARE NOT AVAILABLE in Costa Rica. ROUTING DOESN T EXIST. PREPAID CARDS NEITHER. (AS FOR LATE 2009) For a tourist it is IMPOSSIBLE to use or get a cell phone in Costa Rica, since you need to be resident, ask for a line and wait MONTHS OR YEARS to get one. GSM COVERAGE IS THE WORST IN THE WORLD: it is almost impossible to call someone (even a 1 meter in front of you) for few seconds without the line being cut off. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 84.220.173.228 (talk • contribs)

 * Please stop SHOUTING. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:02, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

 * 1- I dont know how to get a prepaid SIM, however, there are public phones all around in every city or town... and most public phones now take all of the following: coins, chip cards or "serial-number" (colibri) cards... not mentioning the call collect service 110. 2- If you request a cellphone (costa rican or foreign resident) it currently takes some hours to get the line... not months or years... get a life 3- Coverage is widely availabe...specially in cities and towns. Worst in the world? stop being a troll. 4- Why would you wanna call someone 1 meter in front of you? lol. (WT-en) Daniel32708 18:25, 11 March 2010 (EST)

June 2010, 1st day in San Jose, I visited a small cell phone store and asked for a prepaid SIM card & GSM Phone. Got both including 300 minutes for about $60. No problem, didn't show any ID. When I called the ICE (ee say) customer care, they did say the SIM was registered to someone other than myself so I couldn't get service, but they did help me change the voicemail password.

Carl —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 200.122.185.14 (talk • contribs)

All this information is outdated. Before 2008 there was a public monopoly of the telephone service under ICE. (Instituto Costarisence de Electricidad.) However, since 2008 there has been a privatization program. In 2012, there are several companies that offer pay as you go sim cards that are available to anyone willing to pay. —The preceding comment was added by 201.195.76.30 (talk • contribs)
 * Hi! Please feel free to Plunge forward and change it. jan (talk) 15:54, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Regions & Puntarenas
Hmm, we've called the southwestern region of the country Puntarenas, after the province name, but that province actually extends throughout most of the Central Pacific region. Any ideas for a better name for the southwestern region? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:25, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

 * see discussion at Talk:Puntarenas

Proposed Change
1- By car...

Currently:

Gas stations are full-service and the guys there are very cool about taking dollars or Colón(es). The interesting thing is that Costa Rica is small so you do not burn a lot of gas getting places, even though it seems like forever. Costa Rica is also a land of traffic circles, so people from Europe should have no problem, but North Americans should make sure they know how they work. The gas stations really are full-service, and you can have your oil checked, water filled, and tire pressure topped off. The state owns a gasoline company and the private companies raise their prices to the level of the state-set price. It is recommended to always use super gas and not regular; the regular gas is soiled. If you use the "regular" gas, you will have to change the gas filter and clean the injectors after 5000 miles.

Proposed:

Gas stations are full-service and the guys there are very cool about taking dollars or Colón(es). Credit cards are also widely accepted. The interesting thing is that Costa Rica is small so you do not burn a lot of gas getting places, even though it seems like forever. Costa Rica is also a land of traffic circles, so people from Europe should have no problem, but North Americans should make sure they know how they work. The gas stations really are full-service, and you can have your oil checked, water filled, and tire pressure topped off for free. The government sets the gas price, so you will find the same price anywhere in the country. Keep in mind that gas is not sold in gallons but in litters. As anywhere else, it is always recommended to use super gas and not regular. the regular gas is soiled. If you use the "regular" gas, you will have to change the gas filter and clean the injectors after 5000 miles. . Diesel is also available.

Why? 1- Even if it is small, roads are slow traffic, so you will burn gas... if it takes forever, just as that sentence states, it obviously is burning gas all that time...   2- We buy refined gasoline...super or regular... who says the regular is soiled?

2-

Currently:

A speeding ticket is, at the most, 20,000 Colones (US $40), and although the police are generally congenial, foreign drivers are occasionally illegally offered an "on the spot" fine that is half that or less.

Proposed: According to the new traffic law, fines go up to around 280000 colones.... so we need to change the "20 000 colones  us $40".

 * I suppose I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the slower you go from point A to point B, the less fuel you'll burn—that is, driving faster drives fuel consumption up exponentially. Not a big deal, though, so I certainly wouldn't object to its removal. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:58, 17 March 2010 (EDT)

 * Yep, but at the end it is similar...slower, consuming little during a loooong time, than faster, consuming more, but during a short time. (WT-en) Daniel32708 14:13, 18 March 2010 (EDT)

Regions of Costa Rica
I was wondering if there is a standard criteria for naming regions in countries or if it is done out of the blue. The Costa Rican government has established official regions with official region names that do not coencide with the ones established here, and I, being costarricense, can testify that no one knows the regions by those names. They seem made up to me.

Here is a document which states the official names of the regions in spanish.

The original region names were:

 * -Región Central
 * -Región Pacífico Norte
 * -Región Pacífico Central
 * -Región Pacífico Sur
 * -Región Norte
 * -Región Atlántica

and the current region names are (as of President Rodrigo Carazo Odio's administration):

 * -Central
 * -Chorotega
 * -Brunca
 * -Huetar Atlántica
 * -Huetar Norte

both names and definitions are understood throughout the nation, by the population and officials.

The document I stated before also details the limits of each region, as well as other information, such as population, cantons, cities, climate, and geography, among other useful information. Although the population information is outdated as it is based on the 2000 census and not the more recent 2011 census.JosepaXD (talk) 17:01, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Health
The section on health is very biased. While the Costa Rican health care system is far better than its neighbors it is severely lacking. I have lived in Costa Rica for 5 years and have used the public health system many times so I speak from experience. The educational system for doctors is very poor and many doctors have little more than a few years of education. I have personally seen doctors using wikipedia to help them diagnose patients. Recently (2012-13) there have been street protests against the public health system because people are having to wait years for cancer treatment. This section needs to be rewritten that gives the facts of the system and not paint a rosey picture of a barely functioning public health system. —The preceding comment was added by 201.195.76.30 (talk • contribs)

 * Then please rewrite it! --Peter Talk 20:38, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

It isn't perfect, but its not as bad as you paint it out to be. I can't be sure that the doctor you speak of did in fact use Wikipidia for his diagnostic and I doubt you can prove it. I don't know where you got the idea that many doctors have little more that a few years of education. The mayor problems with costa rica's public healthcare system are administrative, and those protests basically centered on that fact. It isn't a "barely functioning system", it works, although it could do better.JosepaXD (talk) 03:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Is this the same health system that a traveller would be using? Or would a visitor likely go through a different system?  --Inas (talk) 04:01, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

This system is for costa ricans or nationalized foreigners; although the facilities can be used by anyone, especially for emergencies, but if you're a tourist and you are caught in an emergency I believe you would have to pay for the services. Either way, this system is not meant for tourists. Medical tourism is completely private alsoJosepaXD (talk) 04:06, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Other destinations list
Tortuguero National Park is one of the most popular parks in Costa Rica and deserves a link in the Costa Rica list. In order not to exceed the limit of nine items I suggest to remove Pacuare River and Protected Zone. WiDi (talk) 19:34, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * While I'm not an expert on the country, I've never heard of Pacuare River and Protected Zone, and its article has no content. The opposite is true for Tortuguero, so I say go ahead. --Peter Talk 20:09, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Narcotics
It is not right, for any type of traveling guide, to recommend any type of drug usage in another country. It is possible all this section must be rewritten, mainly because more strict measures are being created constantly because of the influence of narcotics traffic.

It is illegal for the police to accept bribery, so you could be in real trouble if you, as a tourist, try to do so in Costa Rica or in any other country. —The preceding comment was added by 190.5.215.18 (talk • contribs)

 * If you believe the section needs to be rewritten for the sake of accuracy, plunge forward and rewrite it. However, I don't see that the section recommends either narcotic use or bribery; instead, it recommends against those things. So what do you want to edit? Or better yet, just make the edits, and others can read them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Advertising - Easy Ride Shuttle Services
I'm currently visiting Costa Rica, and in most pages I've read, there is always a "The most popular one is Easy Ride Shuttle Services" on the transport sections. I've never tried them and I don't know how good they are, but the way it's written ("best", bold) feels like aggressive advertising which I doupt is what we want on wikivoyage! Laurianv (talk) 02:55, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
 * You are quite right. We have a don't tout policy here on WV and usually delete such promotional listings on sight or change their wording to something more appropriate. I'd be glad if you could go ahead and edit those pages accordingly. Hobbitschuster (talk) 03:49, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Turrialba
I have just spent some time in Turrialba and for me it was a highlight of Costa Rica. It has an interesting history, excellent adventure sports and tasty agricultural produce. I created a page for it and and wrote some content. My question is, does anyone else think that Turrialba is a great place? If so, lets put it on the 'Cities' or 'Other destinations' list. I see there is already 9 on each, however I think there are a couple that no one would have problems with removing. The headline could read: Turrialba - Food bowl of Costa Rica and adventure sports mecca --Justvagabonding (talk) 04:19, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

 * If it's a city, town or village, it would belong in "Cities", not in "Other (i.e., non-city) destinations". Which of the currently-listed cities would you propose to replace? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:30, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Ah okay, I wasn't aware that small villages could not go in 'Other destinations'. I think I have seen villages in other destinations before however this is probably against official policy. I looked through the cities list and am not sure if Turrialba would rank higher then any of those. Lets just leave it as it is. Cheers --Justvagabonding (talk) 17:41, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

 * You can always list smaller towns and villages in the relevant region article, which in this case would be the Central Valley - Turrialba is already name-dropped but there's no information about it, why not put your headline in there? Welcome to Wikivoyage, I hope you're having fun with it so far :) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Thanks ThunderingTyphoons!, I put the headline on the region page. Cheers, --Justvagabonding (talk) 20:24, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Touting Costa Rica
Hi. A newly registered user thankfully informed us of an apparent touting going on in our articles on Costa Rica. If you have a free minute or two, try and find those and either detout or remove them. Thanks. Hobbitschuster (talk) 03:52, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Danger of wildlife in Costa Rica
the section on wildlife needs to be edited and cleaned up. for example: the paragraph on crocodiles gives conflicting advice, (paraphrasing):  Crocodiles are dangerous, they are man-eaters! However, few people actually get eaten.

12-hour or 24-hour clock?
Which is more commonly used? Ground Zero (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd say the 12-hour clock. The dog2 (talk) 22:30, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

Directions in countries like Costa Rica
This edit translated directions, which in Costa Rica are used in lieu of street addresses. I don't think this is helpful because the English version will not help when asking locals for directions and they are no better intelligible than the Spanish forms. And as this is an issue affecting several LatAm destinations, I think hashing it out for every article on its own ain't gonna get us far... Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:18, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * How are people going to find these places, then? Are geocoordinates possible? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:03, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * They are, but someone needs to add them. The way directions work in Nicaragua or Costa Rica is to give a landmark and then say how many blocks north or south and east or west it is. So "from Times Square two blocks west one block north". A few major streets have names that are actually used and their kilometer markets are then used for reference, which would be like "kilometer 4.5 on I 95" or something... Hobbitschuster (talk) 06:31, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

 * Isn't the inclusion of directions in our listings supposed to mean that most people won't need to ask for directions in the street, because they can read and follow the directions we give them? In order to do this, the instructions need to be in the language that everyone reading this wiki can understand.

 * Perhaps I misunderstand the convention, but surely if people do need to resort to asking directions in the street, they are going to be asking for "¿El restaurante X, por favor?" or "¿Dónde está el museo Y?", to which the answer will be the directions, rather than asking "¿Dónde está el restaurante que está a 100 metros al oeste de aquí y 50 metros al norte?" because then they're answering their own question.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:56, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Those directions are the only "address" those places have. If you get in a cab in most places you can say "take me to 123 example street" and you'll get there. In places like Nicaragua or Costa Rica you'll say "landmark x y blocks east z blocks north". And if the taxi driver doesn't know landmark x, you'll have to find another one... It's not a prefect system by any means, but it's what's used locally... Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:19, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I think that Wikivoyage giving directions is more important than providing the words in the local language for asking for directions. Or, we could follow the advice provided by Foreign words to provide both versions: "To note the foreign-language translation of a word, list it in parentheses right after the English name, with the name of the language, followed by a colon, then the foreign language name in italics." In this circumstance, specifying that it is Spanish seems unnecessary, though. Ground Zero (talk) 12:32, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

Part of the issue is that those are actually the addresses (which to my knowledge we never translate) but someone put them in the "directions" field. Maybe we can put them in the address tab and something else in the "directions" field... Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:20, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * That sounds like it would work. Ground Zero (talk) 13:27, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

 * Now I understand the situation a bit better, I agree it could work. It would be worth talking about this in the Costa Rica country article (though don't know where exactly; Cope?).--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It looks like San José has street addresses (or at least street names), but nobody uses them. That Chinese embassy, for example, is on a street named "Av. 3A" between Calle 78 and Calle 80 (Avenue 3A between Streets 78 and 80).
 * Costa Rica begins with a description of the address/directions problem. That looks like the right place for it.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:57, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

 * But I also think that providing bilingual directions would be best. Maybe we put Spanish in the address field, and English in the directions field? Or the other way around?
 * Hobbit mentioned that we don't translate addresses, and that's true. But we don't need to translate an address, because everyone who uses addresses in their daily lives can recognise one in a foreign language with a bit of practice, or after seeing loads of them in a row like you would in a good Wikivoyage destination article. Understanding directions (whole sentences, with multiple clauses) in a foreign language is another question entirely, and without providing a translation, we're practically forcing non-Spanish-speakers to seek outside help, which goes against one of our fundamental goals to be the only source an average-intelligence traveller needs on a trip.
 * Another question, still just getting my head around the 'system', such as it is: are the directions absolute, so a certain bar is always known as that place 100 metres north of the big tree, and never as the place 50 metres west of that square all the tourists love, or are they subjective depending on where you are or who you are talking to?--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:59, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * To my knowledge the system is relatively steady. So much so that there are references to former landmarks in some addresses. And the system somehow works to get mail delivered in cities like Managua which has over a million inhabitants... Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:43, 2 December 2019 (UTC)

 * I'll tell you how it works in two words: neighbourhood posties.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 23:07, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
 * The system is steady, in the sense that the old fig tree (which was replaced by a new fig tree when it died) is still used as a reference point. But it's not steady in the sense of every place having a single address.  Your destination is a certain distance from the old fig tree *and* a certain distance from "the Coca-Cola" (another longtime landmark that no longer exists).
 * If there's a list of major landmarks, then that might be a good subject for a map. WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:14, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

 * Google maps worked fine for me in Costa Rica, so I think we can recommend it to potential visitors. Save for one case when the fact that the road was closed wasn't updated, I was able to drive around to my destinations without any problems. The dog2 (talk) 05:00, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

yes, some cities have tried to introduce street signage but actual uptake by the population varies widely. It's also possible that stuff like an embassy works like a reference point in itself and thus the only nontrivial "address" one could give is the much rarer "xth street and yth avenue" Hobbitschuster (talk) 08:46, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

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Deleted text
I removed "... Ngoài tắm biển, khách du lịch còn có thể thăm quan rừng tự nhiên, hải đăng, khu tưởng niệm và tượng Hồ Chí Minh, cầu cảng, làng đánh cá, các vịnh biển, bãi đá tự nhiên...". Saving it here in case it is useful. (WT-en) Pashley 00:43, 6 June 2011 (EDT)

In Coto, the best time for travel is in August. Highspeed boat will take you there with only 1 hour from Cairong Port. The coto Lodge hotel (www.coto.vn) is the best support tours/diving/adventure tours/transportation/meals in seaview restaurant and accomodation. The guide here can speak English as well.

Rename?
This should probably be renamed Cô Tô District, which appears to be a small group of islands with this as the only entry on either this site or wikipedia. –StellarD (talk) 10:49, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:Cotswolds

Is it okay to break the template, and put 'settlements' or something instead, as there are lots of villages etc in the Cotswolds!

Useful archive
A user was doing good sandbox work on this article, but seems to have abandoned the project. If anyone is feeling in the mood to improve this article, consider sifting and lifting the good content from his sandbox and moving it here. See User:(WT-en) Tristan Thomas/Cotswold Water Park --64.134.98.79 13:09, 23 February 2011 (EST)

Extraregion?
This article is currently classed as a region and has a number of towns in its hierarchy. These towns are in a number of counties, the rest of England is organised by the counties rather then geographical boundaries. Also other Cotswold towns are in the county hierarchy. Should we move the towns under here to the correct counties? --Traveler100 (talk) 10:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The Cotswolds have a long history of touristic importance, and merit a complete and beautiful article. We have a precedence on the article of Lake Tahoe, which is inserted on our structure under California but mentioning options in Nevada as well. Ibaman (talk) 12:33, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I am not saying reduce the content of the page, just sort out the hierarchy in the area. In fact should, as you say, expand to cover the whole of the area and not just the Gloucestershire part. --Traveler100 (talk) 13:41, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, we are on agreement. this article should be complete, as well as its map mask, let's go for it. ˜˜˜˜

Map Mask
Boundary appears to be incorrect, only covering the Gloucestershire part of the Cotswolds. --Traveler100 (talk) 10:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Actually you're right. There isn't an exact definitive boundary of the Cotswold region, although this would appear to be a better version. Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:52, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

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Pictures needed?
Small article about my hometown here. So sorry, but I really don't have the time to contribute. If you need some more images, feel free to take it. The license is suitable. ...here. More pics and maps I made too (look around there). -- (WT-en) DerFussi 05:24, 14 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Cottonera

Do
Malta has about 100,000 tourists at anyone time in the high season, but there are only 6 beaches in the entire country. Therefore it is significant that there is hardly anyone else there when one goes to the tip of Vittoriosa to swim. I'll tone down the language but I think it does merit being pointed out.

Understand
Yeah those flats, what were they thinking!193.67.113.2 07:52, 4 January 2007 (EST)

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Talk:CouchSurfing

We generally don't have pages in our main namespace about single organizations or companies; rather, we either have location-based articles (destination guides) or travel topics on general subjects (see Travel topics). We already have a travel topic on Hospitality exchange programs, and I think this information should stay there.

I'm a big fan of CouchSurfing, by the way, and I think it's the best service out there. But we need to stick to the community rules -- I know that's how CS works, too. --(WT-en) Evan 14:03, 13 December 2006 (EST)

 * Weird. It was started yesterday as a redirect... not sure why this got changes but I'm going to put it back to that. -- (WT-en) Colin 15:06, 13 December 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Counties of North Carolina

Is this an article?
Is this an article? Is this a good idea? This article does not really comply with our regional template. While lists may be a good idea in some other wikis they do not seem to be so good for Wikivoyage. Also, lists of places are sorted alphabetically, not geographically. Two places next to each other on this list may be at opposite ends of the state, or the earth. -- (WT-en) Huttite 08:16, 28 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * I think this is a bad idea. We've used counties to break up American states before, but I'd suggest grouping these under larger geographical regions. --(WT-en) Evan 11:01, 29 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Counties of North Carolina

 * Delete. A Wikipedia-style list of counties in the state.  The list itself assumes that every county is a (future) article, which is not necessarily the case.  Counties are often very artificial and arbitrary blocks on a map and don't always make good regions.  (They're fine where they make sense, but we aren't in any way bound by the lines bureacrats make.)  And the article simply doesn't fit into our geographical hierarchy; if these county articles are ever created, they should be listed as subregions in their respective regions-of-North-Carolina articles. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 17:17, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Don't delete. Redirect to North Carolina -- (WT-en) Huttite 22:04, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Why? - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 21:17, 6 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Redirect to North Carolina (preferably) or else move to "North Carolina/Counties of North Carolina". The article itself isn't very useful, but the information it contains might be helpful in the future, and a redirect has the additional advantage of preventing someone from recreating the article in the future. -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:44, 11 August 2006 (EDT)
 * With the exception of the Los Angeles area, I don't think many travellers ever think about counties. They only exist to define the boundaries of local government and hence have no bearing on passers-through. I say delete the crap out of it. Any useful information there is best relegated to the nearest city-- not even Rand-McNally shows travellers where counties are. (WT-en) Texugo 23:53, 11 August 2006 (EDT)
 * For what it's worth, there has been an ongoing discussion about counties in (among other places) Project:Geographical hierarchy, and there are useful county articles for California and Ohio. Locals tend to create county articles because that's the regional breakdown they're familiar with, and travelers tend to not ever know what county they're in.  Given that county articles will probably always be created, my opinion is that we need to figure out what region to redirect them to, or (if appropriate) how to incorporate them into the existing Wikivoyage regional hierarchy. -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:59, 11 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep, at least until a more comprehensive policy is worked out. Ryan's point about the locals is well taken.  A good way of transferring knowledge needs to be found, and we should retain this article until there's a solution. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 12:30, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Redirect to North Carolina#Regions as Huttite suggests. This keeps the data but puts it out of the way. (WT-en) Pashley 20:26, 13 August 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:County Carlow

''I removed the following subsection since I don't think that it's specific to County Carlow. Perhaps it would be better at the country level?''(WT-en) Maj 20:41, 26 December 2006 (EST)

Etiquette
Only basic table manners are considered necessary when eating out, unless you're with company that has a more specific definition of what is appropriate. As a general rule, so long as you don't make a show of yourself by disturbing other diners there's little else to worry about. It's common to see other customers using their mobile phones - this sometimes attracts the odd frown or two but goes largely ignored. If you do need to take a call, keep it short and try not to raise your voice. The only other issue to be concerned about is noise - a baby crying might be forgivable if it's resolved fairly quickly, a contingent of adults laughing very loudly every couple of minutes or continuously talking out loud will attract negative attention. However, these rules are largely ignored in fast-food restuarants

Manual of style
This is shaping up to be a really excellent guide! I think it could be a star... but our Project:Manual of style says that country information (ie tipping and etiquette like the above) should go in the country guide and listings (restaurants, hotels, etc) should go in the appropriate city guides. Let me know if there are any questions, otherwise we will all chip in to get the article in line with our policies. Thanks again! (WT-en) Maj 23:27, 26 December 2006 (EST)

Questions on Local Info & Photos
Hello there! Sent you an e-mail, but the talk page would probably be the best place to discuss changes to the article. Again, thanks for all the good words, glad the work isn't going unnoticed!

Just a few things: The Etiquette is relevant to most of the country, so I've included it there. The Nationalist is a local newspaper, so is only relevant to Carlow. As for the photo, I'm unsure where the manual of style stands on photographs of newspapers, so I've no intention for the moment of putting it back in. Similarly, the radio stations that were mentioned were the ones that could be received in Carlow - most of them can't be heard across the country. Again, I'm not sure if they're considered appropriate, so I won't be putting them back in for the moment at least. If you could help me out I'd be most grateful.

Also, the photographs of the Fairgreen Shopping Centre and the one on the very bottom of shoppers on Grafton Street - they include people but they do show crowds... I presume they're OK being left in? The photo of the underpass on the relief road isn't the best - I'll be sure to change that over the coming weeks.

Thanks again for your help, and I'll be sure to keep adding information over the new year. (WT-en) Alan1989 14:26, 5 January 2007 (EST)

Listings
This guide is looking great Alan! Just a note, all of the individual listings under sleep, eat and drink should only be in the respective city guides, not at the county level... just a sentence or three describing the options and the best areas/towns to stay, or anything that needs to be said in general about accomodation, etc in CC. Good work! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 19:23, 22 February 2007 (EST)

Re: Photo of Grafton Street..??
I have removed the above mentioned image. I just didn't feel that that picture was really relevant. After all this is an article about County Carlow, I don't feel that a photo of Christmas shoppers dozens of miles away in Dublin is relevant at all..! Other than that it really is a good article.--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 23:22, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Re: Smoking ban..?
Also is the Smoking ban section entirely relevant for Carlow too..?? It certainly is relevant for the Ireland page, but since it is an all-Ireland ban & not restricted to Carlow I think it is more suitable in the ROI page rather than this one..?--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 23:22, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Re: 3rd Level Education.
Perhaps the 3rd level education information i.e. ...

(The town is home to two third-level colleges - Carlow I.T., on the Kilkenny Road, and Carlow College (known locally as St. Patrick's College). The student population Carlow town is 3,000 strong, contributing to the growth in the number of student apartments, and the aforementioned nightlife.)

... would be better suited to a seperate Learn section. This would make the Understand section smaller, as it seems to be quite long when compared to other sections in similar articles.

--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 23:28, 10 June 2007 (EDT)

Re: Above
A brief mention on the smoking ban wouldn't go amiss but the section that's there is a bit lengthy for a local article I suppose. The info on the colleges works well I reckon, there's definitely room for a Learn section in the town article and the short County info on them would back it up quite nicely. In a nutshell, smoking yea - colleges nay! (WT-en) Alan1989 19:41, 10 August 2007 (EDT)

Redirects
I propose redirecting Rathvilly and Hacketstown to Tullow. They're just itsy-bitsy places short on amenities and POIs.

The official name of Bagenalstown is Muine Bheag but both names are in common use; I've create a redirect for the latter but suggest no name change there. If we were shackled to "official" names then we'd have to rename Offaly as "King's County", that king being Philip II of Spain. Grahamsands (talk) 10:13, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

 * ✅ - GS

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Talk:County Clare

County listings

 * I trimmed these hotels from Clare; they should be moved to the right cities. --(WT-en) Evan 12:28, 22 January 2007 (EST)
 * Dromoland Castle,
 * Vaughan Lodge,
 * Clare Inn Hotel & Leisure Centre,
 * Ocean Cove Hotel,

There remained six Do and one Drink listing. Two were deleted as duplicates, four delisted into plain text. Grahamsands (talk) 11:38, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

County overhaul
County Clare has been overhauled by expanding the range of several town and village pages to take in nearby attractions.

Ennis the county town takes in Quin abbey, Knappogue Castle and Dysert O’Dea. I propose redirecting Craggaunowen there, a recreated crannog village.

Bunratty and Shannon are small and only 5 km apart but utterly different in character, so they shouldn’t merge.

Kilkee takes in Loop Head and the small places around such as Carrigaholt, Kilrush and Doonbeg. I propose redirecting Querrin there, a tiny place with just a beach, a campsite and a horse looking over the fence.

Milltown Malbay expands south past Quilty till it meets Kilkee coming the other way.

Lahinch expands to include Ennistymon and Liscannor – that page’s only content was two restaurants one of which has disappeared, redirect to Lahinch.

Cliffs of Moher (park page) are midway between Lahinch and Doolin, but the boat trips run from Doolin so those listings belong there. Lots of other overlap with Doolin, if this is removed then the Cliffs are just a couple of paragraphs and should redirect there.

Boat trip info probably has to be duplicated between Doolin and Aran Islands, since they connect but have sailings elsewhere.

Ballyvaughan takes in the coast road as far as Fanore, and south through the Burren to Leamenah.

Burren stands as a park article, but listings move to the “cities”, and the page includes the whole karst area not just the national park.

Kilfenora takes in the road south through Kilnaboy to Corofin. This last is a bit of a stretch but they’re all such tiny places. Corofin is the transition between the bleak limestone hills and the lush farmlands, and circles us back to Ennis.

Only one POI has failed to find a “city” home, Killaloe abbey which remains as a county “See”. It’s on the boundary with Tipperary and probably will find a home there whenever that county is overhauled.

So to summarise the proposed redirects: Craggaunowen > Ennis, Querrin > Kilkee, Liscannor > Lahinch, Cliffs of Moher > Doolin. Views? Grahamsands (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

'Those redirects have all been made plus one other: apols, I didn't signal the intent to redirect Lisdoonvarna into Doolin, the content was just three B&Bs which migrated. Grahamsands (talk) 19:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Would the Cliffs of Moher pix work better for Doolin than its current banner?

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Talk:County Cork

Deleted mention of Auriga Spa because the spa is no longer there.

merge subregions
should we merge North, East and West Cork regions articles into this one? What little information is in them can be added here and there are not that many town articles for a bottom-level region. --Traveler100 (talk) 08:38, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

County listings
This county had 9 listings for car hire, 1 Do and 13 Eat. Six were deleted as they duplicated listings on the "City" page, 14 (including all the car hire) were migrated to their city, and two had gone out of business and were deleted. That leaves one Eat on this page that for the moment doesn't have a better home. Grahamsands (talk) 07:09, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

County update
The 2018 merger of subregions looks reasonable. In Nov 2020 all the "cities" have been overhauled (this enhances Cork's bid for DOTM) and the county page is nearing completion. No new pages have been created - there are 2 or 3 candidates, but with so many amenities shut down, they're best left for reconsideration in normal times. I propose two merger / redirections: Grahamsands (talk) 16:02, 27 November 2020 (UTC) - ✅ 30 / 11
 * Douglas > Cork - it's just a burb. And the page is just a recitation of bus routes, a shopping centre and a McDonalds, it's kinda sad.
 * Rosscarbery > Clonakilty, the page is almost hollow and there's hardly anything there.

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Talk:County Donegal

''This page is for discussing the corresponding article or guide. For more about using talk pages check out Project:Using talk pages.''

Accomodation listings
Accommodation listings, and nearly all type of other listings with a specific address should be directed at the individual city/destinations articles, not at regional level per our policies. any grievances should be directed at the talk page of that policy.

The reason for this policy is because we want to try to avoid duplicate content, of course business owners would like to see their business on as many pages as possible, but from a practical view, if every hotel, rental outfit and B&B in California started listing themselves on that guide, rather than the city they are in, our guide to California would be miles long with thousands of listings, and not very usable for anyone. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 00:49, 30 November 2009 (EST)

 * Well Donegal isnt California and your one size fits all policy doesnt work ..........you are making the site useless for places which arent like California. Also County Donegal is in a region called Ulster ........County Donegal is a subregion of ULSTER .........going down any further is almost to the village level.....and we are not talking about major populations here.....it is the most sparsely populated region of Ireland ........and even there you dream up a reason to delete it .......YOU MAKE THIS SITE A UNUSABLE

 * WHY is someone who knows zero about Ireland editing it ......why dont you edit Denmark or do you know nothing about that either?? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 117.97.9.245 (talk • contribs)

 * Although it is tempting not to respond to anyone who posts in such abusive tones (and especially for the 2nd time), I will attempt to do civilly. The most extraordinary thing about WikiTravel is that the hierachical structure does work for almost any destination. It is the single most admirable thing about the way this complex site was set up. It is certainly not only applicable to places like California. Have a good look around before making such statements - it works for remote provinces in Asia, it works for every European country - there are thousands of examples.. County Donegal is certainly no exception and already has a develped structure with 6 major towns and 6 other destinations. Those are where sleep and other listings should be and not in the county article which is an overview. If you want to contribute information about this area to WikiTravel, make an effort to understand the site.
 * Finally, if you disagree with a policy, then the way to address that is to debate it on the relevant talk page, not abuse a user who is volunteering his time to implement that policy. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 07:23, 1 December 2009 (EST)

 * Well, I do agree that it would be fantastic if we had a patroller from each country, unfortunately there are about 202 sovereign states in the world, and only about 26 people doing regular patrols, none of them from Ireland as far as I'm aware. Fortunately we have some pretty expansive guidelines to go for instead, one of them reads; "A common test to determine whether a subject gets its own article is the "can you sleep there?" test", if there is a B&B there, it would seem to pass that test. Pennesylvania House could go in Letterkenny, Dergfield House in Ballybofey which with a population of 4000 definately seem to qualify for it's own article, and Saint Ernan's House is closed. Myhomeforholidays.com, Donegalcottageholidays.com, letterkennyaccommodation.net and donegalaccommodation.net all disqualify for a listing per our accomodation listings policy, which is not invented by me, but by broad community consensus. And I did actually do a fairly extensive amount of editing in Denmark, for example I wrote much of the Copenhagen guide.

 * And expanding on Burmesedays comment, some good examples of our low level region guides include Sakhalin, East Bali, Red Centre, if it works there, why shouldn't it work in County Donegal? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 07:44, 1 December 2009 (EST)

Proposed re-directs
This county is kinda fragmented. I suggest the following redirects:

Mountcharles > Donegal Town

Bundoran and Belleek > Ballyshannon

Ballyliffin, Moville and Inishowen Peninsula > Carndonagh

The Rosses > Dungloe

Gortahork and Dunfanaghy > Falcarragh

Lifford > Strabane

Burt > Derry

And Arranmore Island to rename as Arranmore, reversing the current redirect - Grahamsands (talk) 20:31, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Further: Ardara was an orphan page, and looks it; to redirect to Glenties. There may be others hidden in the undergrowth. Grahamsands (talk) 08:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Conditional support. I'd tend to trust Graham's local knowledge, however since I know little about this area, if someone brings up a good reason to oppose, then I might oppose. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:39, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:County Dublin

Regions
It may be a good idea to create 4 separate pages for Dublin covering their different regions.

Above suggestion of 2007 doesn't seem necessary in 2019, but the County Dublin amenities beyond the city can be clustered geographically: north side around Swords and the airport has the bulk of these. Grahamsands (talk) 20:45, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

As proposed on Talk / Ireland, 3 scrappy "cities" in the County have been redirected: Portmarnock -> Malahide, Rush -> Balbriggan and Skerries -> Balbriggan. Grahamsands (talk) 20:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Cabinteely page was created in 2013 but remained an orphan until Nov 2019, so I overlooked it when tidying the county. It's a nondescript suburb, on the edge of the buzzing metropolitan delights of Dún Laoghaire and Dalkey. There's no reason to visit and I propose redirecting it to Dún Laoghaire. Grahamsands (talk) 17:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

 * Support, unless somebody local comes along to argue why we should keep it separate.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Done.

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Talk:County Wexford

Towns
Since there are two parts to Rosslare then maybe there should be a separate page for Rosslare Port or Harbour and for Rosslare Strand area. (unsigned, 2007)

In 2021 this county's pages were upgraded by expanding their scope, so Rosslare now covers Carnsore Point and environs. The Port and Strand are indeed distinct but don't stand up as independent destinations. New pages were created for Fethard-on-Sea (covering the whole Hook Peninsula) and for New Ross. Grahamsands (talk) 19:54, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

sup?
In New Ross, sup in the historic Tholsel. What does sup mean? Highjumpermsu (talk) 13:48, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

 * "Stand Up Paddle" comes to mind. But, whoa, it's too cold, I'd rather do it down here, I guess. Ibaman (talk) 13:58, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:County Wicklow

Towns
The text describing the county in the towns section should be moved up to the top as part of the introduction. It makes no sense and is out of context in the town section. (WT-en) Terence s 13:23, 11 July 2007 (EDT)

Big Fix
I've noticed that somebody has been doing a great job in adding a lot of useful content to the article. However I feel it needs a huge clean-up. It can get very long-winded & essay-like. Plus the headings seem to have been blended into a single huge one. So I'm going to start on that right away. It would be great if we could get a small team together to pull it all together though. But if not I will try my best.

The basic plan is to...

 * Restructure the entire article to give it some sort of shape.
 * Get to work on putting only the necessary information.
 * Work on photos.

I've been looking through the other Irish articles & will try to use the County Carlow article as a standard to set it from.--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 13:37, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Removed Region Section
Ok, so I've removed the region section & replaced it with a more usable 'Towns' & 'Notable Village' section. It felt like an injustice leaving some villages like Roundwood out of the towns list due to their size. Likewise, simply putting villages in the town section might be confusing because 500 people clearly doesn't constitute as a town. So I think the new format works pretty well.--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 14:21, 7 December 2008 (EST)

 * I reverted your changes because the text appears to be copyrighted by reli.sh/2007/06/12/rough-guide-wicklow-mountains/ . We need to see a written permission from the copyright holder for this to be included here. (WT-en) Texugo 14:25, 7 December 2008 (EST)

That wasn't the text I added, that is the 'essay style' thing I've been talking about editing. Did you revert it back to before I edited just now!? In that case the text you are talking about is still there as I didn't add it. O.o --(WT-en) Disonyxiated 14:29, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Everything that I added was my own work, just placed within the above-mentioned copyright stuff. --(WT-en) Disonyxiated 14:32, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Right, deleted all of that stuff that was copyrighted & re-added all my work O.o Tired*~  (WT-en) Disonyxiated 14:56, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Update
All the pages within this county were overhauled in Aug 2020. This includes Wicklow Way, though I didn't try to build it into a detailed trail guide.

There were no mergers / redirections. New pages were created for Arklow, Blessington and Wicklow Town - using that name as Wicklow maps to the county, in line with common usage, though Wikipedia maps it to the town. There were half a dozen little places (eg Avoca or Rathdrum) that didn't merit a page for lack of accommodation and POIs, though relevant stuff has been tucked into the nearest town. Grahamsands (talk) 20:40, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Courtenay

I removed this from the sleep section, but it may be good for data mining. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 01:22, 2 May 2007 (EDT)
 * The Comox Valley Bed and Breakfast Association A large number of bed and breakfast hosts in the Comox Valley. See individual hosts websites for rates and reservation information.

Removed the following information from the page since it doesn't meet our external link policy, but they may contain some good info for Courtenay and Comox: -(WT-en) Shaund 15:10, 17 January 2010 (EST)

See and Do

The Tourism Comox Valley website has a list of all of the things that you can see and do in the Comox Valley http://www.discovercomoxvalley.com/things-to-do/default.htm

 * Courtenay and Comox Valley Calendar of Events Festivals, Concerts, Sporting events

Eating

Comox Valley has an abundance of gastronomic delights. http://www.discovercomoxvalley.com/news-and-media/documents/ComoxValleyGrowsAgritourism.pdf From Baynes Sound Oysters, to salmon, trout, berries, award-winning Natural Pastures cheeses and local produce the options are plenty. http://www.discovercomoxvalley.com/culture/documents/GrowersGuide2008.indd.pdf is a brochure of local growers.

My favourite restaurants are: Toscanos (Comox), BlackFin Pub (Comox), HarbourView Bistro (Union Bay), Kingfisher Resort (Royston), Boston Pizza (Courtenay), Atlas Cafe (Courtenay). Zen Zero has excellent juices, vegan and raw food http://www.zenzero.ca/ Quality Foods (Comox) has an excellent deli, with huge lines for its Chinese Food.

A complete list of local restaurants can be found at http://www.comoxvalleyrestaurants.ca/

Sleep

There are a wide range of accommodations in the Comox Valley. From on mountain accommodations at Mt Washington http://www.mtwashingtonaccommodation.com/ftrd_view.php http://www.alpinechalets.com/, to waterfront in Royston (Kingfisher Resort http://www.kingfisherspa.com/), golf resort http://www.crownisle.com/, to bed and breakfast http://www.discovercomoxvalley.com/member/SearchBusiness.aspx?category=52 and hostels you will find something suitable for you. More info can be found at http://www.discovercomoxvalley.com/

Train service
I removed the By train section that covered the service that used to run from Victoria. It's been stopped for five years now and it's questionable if it's going to return. For reference, the wording was:

''The E & N Dayliner (VIA Rail), which used to make daily trips between Victoria and Courtenay, is currently out of service. It is hoped that the service will be restored sometime in mid 2013 if all the required funding is received. (Nanaimo Daily News April 12, 2012) This small train offers a behind the scenes view of rural communities and Vancouver Island forests. For schedules contact VIA Rail at 1-800-561-8630.'' -Shaundd (talk) 04:47, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:Courtenay