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Sandusky
The reason the description was "split" was because there was a new paragraph (most likely created by hitting the enter key). If you compare the difference you'll be able to see it better. It's kind of hard to explain.

Also, before you do a whole lot of extensive editing, take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines to be sure you understand how this type of stuff works. You seem to have the right idea when it comes to our manual of style.

If you need any more help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub, or feel free to leave me another message on my talk page. Welcome to Wikivoyage! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 15:53, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

Wikivoyage Shared
Thought I'd let you know about Wikivoyage Shared, Wikivoyage's shared image repository. If you upload images there all of the language versions of WT can access and use the photos. It works pretty much the same as the English version of WT. Check it out when you get a chance. I'm off now to enjoy this beautiful day! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 13:10, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

Holmes County
Hey, nice job on that article. I kept meaning to add something about not taking photographs of Amish people - guess you beat me to it! One minor thing - Ohio counties are treated as regions and use the Project:Region article template. This template doesn't list individual entries for the Eat and Sleep sections - they go in the city article instead. For example, Grandma's Homestead Restaurant would go in the Charm article. Keep up all the good work! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 12:15, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

 * Sorry about that - I thought you did create those. I'm not familiar with Catawba - is it a town near Port Clinton?  If it's a really teeny town that is pretty much indistinguishable from Port Clinton (at least from a travelers point-of-view) just go ahead and add the Catawba info to the PC article.  Maybe just make a mention in the PC article that it also covers the town of Catawba.  Also, I created the Berlin article. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 13:06, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Catawba

 * I see what you mean about not being sure where it should go. Is there a collective name for the Marblehead peninsula and Catawba Island?  If you check out this map it's pretty obvious that Port Clinton, Marblehead & Catawba are all different towns gathered on the same strip of land. I think we should probably make a Ottawa County region and add those (along with some of the Lake Erie Islands) together. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 15:59, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Just found that Wikipedia calls that peninsula the "Ottawa County peninsula" is this something you've ever heard of? Or is the Catawba Island Peninsula more common?  I think we need just one region page to cover Port Clinton, Marblehead & Catawba. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 16:12, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
 * The naming conventions we use follow the most common English name. I think Catawba Island (even though it's not really an island) is probably used more commonly than Catawba Island Peninsula.  Here's my proposal of how it would be broken down:

 * Ottawa County
 * Ottawa County peninsula
 * Catawba Island
 * Marblehead
 * Port Clinton

Don't worry about the other pages (Catawba Island Peninsula (Ohio) and Catawba Island Penninsula (Ohio) - we can redirect those to the Catawba Island page so if anyone does search for them they'll end up in the right place. Whatcha think? -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 16:29, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

 * I moved our conversation over to Talk:Ottawa County (Ohio) so it'll be easier to follow.

Ottawa County
Sounds good to me. I looked at the page and it included Put-inBay. There are 7 islands in Ottawa County where Put-in-Bay is on South Bass (one of them). Should they be included also, like Put-in-Bay, or am I missing soemthing? Some of the differences in the area = Part of Catawba now has a sanitary sewer, where little of Marbelhead Peninsula does. This has resulted in a substantial building boom on Catawba since the mid-70's. There are a lot of newer marina's, golf courses, condo's, on Catawba and millions of dollars of private boats, supported by lodging and other services. It is the hot spot, so to say.
 * OK, everything's all set up. Let me know what you think -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 22:52, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Holmes County
I had to remove a large section that was a copyright violation from this page. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines. The thing to keep in mind that that most of the stuff found online can't be copied to Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 14:24, 25 April 2007 (EDT)
 * I thought info from Census would be acceptable, regardless of the source. So sorry!
 * That is true that facts can't be copyrighted, but actually copying text word for word is probably not the best idea. Also, at least for me personally, specific information like The population of Fakeville is 2,158 and has decreased 5.45%... more than likely belongs in Wikipedia.  That's actually one of the reasons I enjoy working on Wikivoyage more than Wikipedia - we get to deal with the fun stuff.

 * One more thing, typing ~ after messages you leave on talk pages will automatically add your username & a time stamp. Keep up the good contributions! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 22:52, 25 April 2007 (EDT)

Listing templates
Have you noticed the listings templates (in the box below the summary)? They look like:

*

I like using them because they automatically format the listings correctly. It might take a few tries to get used to, but it'll make adding listings easier (and prettier!). -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 14:12, 26 April 2007 (EDT) Thank You! There are several features in this software I have not figured out

Counties
I created the links to the counties - all you have to do is click the Region tab in the links that look like this:

City | Major City | City District | Region | National Park | Phrasebook | Disambiguation | Talk Page

That will automatically fill out the template. Then just add isin: Ohio above the entry & you should be all set. (WT-en) Fastestdogever 11:15, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

 * See Northwest Ohio. Then just click on the red link & follow the steps above. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 11:36, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Wow!
You've been all over. Those are some great pictures you've been uploading. I especially liked this one.

I just wanted to remind you again about Wikivoyage Shared. If you upload your images there then other languages can use them. Technically they can use them now (since all language versions have the same license), but in order for the Spanish version to use them someone would have to download it and then re-upload it to shared. There's been some talk about making everything uploaded to Shared anyway, so you'd be ahead of the game. I wouldn't bother you about it if you weren't contributing so many neat pictures - I really think the other versions could benefit from your contributions. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 11:54, 2 May 2007 (EDT)

Lincoln Highway
I created this page & added a basic outline. Have you ever driven it? Any clue how long it would take? The Route 66 page worked out pretty well, so check there for inspiration on a good way format an itinerary (especially one that covers many states). -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 12:28, 3 May 2007 (EDT)

Route 66 is a fine article. I do not think I am the guy for a Lincoln Highway page, but it would be a great trip for one visiting USA. I am now uploading photos to Wikishared as you suggested. (WT-en) 2old 14:06, 4 May 2007 (EDT)

Docent
Have you considered becoming a docent for some of the places you live or know very well? All you have to do is add

at the bottom of the page & it'll show up. That way if someone has a detailed question that wouldn't normally be covered in a guide, they can ask you. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 16:35, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

Yucatan Hammock
This seems like an odd topic for an article. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 15:06, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Although I originally did not spell it right, it is an unusual way of resting. I thought it appropriate for The Yucatan and is linked to that page. If you are not familar with one and you backpack, you may want to try one. Agreed it is unusual. (WT-en) 2old 15:12, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
 * No, what I mean is that it's unusual to make a whole article about travel accessory for a travel guide. It doesn't match any of the things described in Project:What is an article?.  Maybe it would be better as a sidebar in the Yucatan article? - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 16:10, 16 May 2007 (EDT)
 * I see. Hmm. I thought it not of enough consequence to include on the Article, so I hid it. Apparently you are speaking of the gay accorn type situation someone created on the Ohio page. The problem is, I do not know how to do that. If you think it is appropriate to the article and should be moved there, would you kindly move it, if not, you are welcome to quickly delete it or take whatever action you deem necessary. I never thought of it as a travel accessory, but something a bit more unique to the area. (WT-en) 2old 16:25, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Info boxes are pretty easy - here's one if you want to try it out. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 16:34, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Thank you, young lady. I will try it tomorrow. (WT-en) 2old 16:46, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

 * OK. I moved it to a text box on the Yucatan page. However I liked it hidden better, but it appears I did not hide it properly. My web page experence in the past is only with Net Objects Fusion, this is a bit different. If I can not abbreviate the article (I mean subject), I will most likely delete it. 09:46, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Tiny images
You may want to check out How to add an image for the best way to add images. Usually, the leading pic is between 250-400px (although 400 may be a bit too large), and the others are usually 250px. Here's the formula: -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 11:08, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

Ohio's prehistoric sites
Yup, that's something that could be covered as an itinerary or a travel topic. Itineraries are articles that describe a route, rather than a single destination. That type of article would be something like "Three days of Ohio's prehistoric sites" and would be similar to an article like The Jazz Track or Route 66. Or you could make it a Travel topic, like "Ohio's prehistoric sites" which lists all of the sites & a description. Some examples of travel topics are Salsa dancing in Latin America or Golf in Thailand. It's up to you! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 17:59, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Looks good - I did some minor formatting to the article. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 13:12, 6 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Cool article! --(WT-en) Peterfitzgerald Talk 16:48, 6 June 2007 (EDT)

Ohio
I just checked out the Ohio guide and saw the lead photo you added to the guide and I wanted to stop by and say "thanks". The photo's awesome - quintessentially Ohio.

Anyhow, thanks for all the hard work. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 14:41, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Just wanted to add in a note to say that while patrolling Special:Recentchanges over the past few weeks I've also noticed the many contributions you've made and also appreciate your efforts. I also like your login - while you and User:(WT-en) OldPine may be able to get away with "old" as it relates to much of the internet crowd, you might be surprised at how many regular contributors here fall into the 30-something and 40-something clubs! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 03:01, 13 June 2007 (EDT)

Tibetan journeys
Thanks for the compliment, but actually those itineraries were the handy work of Celticevergreen. I just (annoyingly) edited some of them. However, I don't think those mountains are out of bounds to people until they reach their 70's. On two occasions while trekking in the Himalayas I have been passed by people in their late 60's - a Japanese group (who were like the road runner - wow) and a two British ladies. So, don't just read the articles. Try a few out. Ah, they are your employees, so no problem if they stumble on your user page. If they were colleagues, you might consider removing the picture! Take it easy. (WT-en) WindHorse 10:15, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

Lodges & Parks
Thanks for the welcome back note - I've been home for a few days, but still trying to get out of ultra-lazy mode. I had checked the vfd discussion and saw that your question was being answered over there. Trust me - just about everyone that has been contributing for awhile has done something that others disagree with. It's bound to happen with so many people around. Keep up the awesome work on the Ohio pages you've put so much effort into. Oh, and I love what you said about your employees thinking you're busy when you're here! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 11:36, 27 June 2007 (EDT)

Region listings
Hi. I wanted to explain my revisions in Southwest Ohio and Ross County. Generally we only have full listings in city/town articles. Regions just reference what city/town the attraction is in. Also, don't list the town in the town's article and almost never use the zip code. (Hey! you aren't just copying stuff in are you?? :)) Web links go at the end and have single brackets [], not double like the internal links. Just some hopefully, helpful tips. Sorry if I got in your way over there with cross edits. Saves some work if we get it right the first time though. Thanks for the efforts and a belated welcome. (WT-en) OldPine 14:11, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Ha! No problem with the cut and paste, but you do have to change the words around a little to protect the innocent, or at least format it to our style. On the airport link, it's just something we've been doing... I guess it'll aid in some future endeavor to use them for locations... meanwhile it just explains to folks where the code comes from. As far as the guideline you asked about, see: this. It has all the listing formats. Not sure which one applied. For what goes into region articles see this. Will look into Mount Gilead. Hey, us old guys gotta stick together. (WT-en) OldPine 14:44, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

Disambiguation of new pages
I wanted to drop you a line about disambiguation of new pages. If there is no potential name conflicts (for example there is only one Upper Sandusky), you should name the article as Upper Sandusky rather than Upper Sandusky (Ohio). I usually check Wikipedia to see what the potential is for articles with other names. Probably it is better to err on the side of no disambiguation if there is not any other article with that name already. Disambiguation is explained (in a rather confusing way I think) at Project:Article naming conventions. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff to learn, but don't sweat it. It eventually is second nature. (WT-en) OldPine 10:20, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

Nice Pics!
Got some nice pictures there, man. Makes me feel like a roadtrip! (WT-en) OldPine 15:33, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Chicago Skyline
Thanks for the positive feedback—I'm still a little unsure of what I'm doing with this travel topic and its nice to hear that you think it would be useful! Unfortunately, I don't have any skyline pictures that include the Museum Campus. These were the only usable panoramic shots I could find (with appropriate licenses). If you see any better ones, though, let me know—I could really use a better shot from the West Side than the one I've got. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:56, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

 * No worries about nosiness! My interest in Chicago's architecture is pretty casual—I just was so blown away by the vistas available on and around the river downtown and wanted to understand more about the various towering works of art that I saw. So all the information on this traveltopic is just internet research that I did. I really don't know the least bit about architecture generally. I'm very glad to hear that you find this guide useful; I was worried at first that it might just be a wild idea. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:27, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

Ohio State Parks
Just to expand further... didn't want to waste more space on the VFD page... basically if a park is large enough and you can sleep in it and all, you can go ahead and create an article for that park. If not - if it's small, you can't spend the night in it - just list it in the region that it's in, such as Northwest Ohio (it would go under "Other destinations"). Hope that helps... and get back to work making Ohio and Ohio State Parks into great articles!

It would be really helpful if you could sort out where to put the list I left at Talk:Ohio, since you know the state. Basically, if a lodge is 30 miles outside of Toledo, then it could be listed under Toledo. Or a lodge that is in the middle of nowhere could be listed in Southeast Ohio, etc. And if a lodge is within a state park, then that state park qualifies for its own article... so if it doesn't have one already, make one for it, using the park template, and list the lodge there.

Thanks again! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 11:39, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

Just here to say "nice work" on the State Parks article. I'm on the other side of the planet but had a look at it after all the vfd discussion. Glad to see it is full of useful stuff. (WT-en) Pashley 11:51, 24 July 2007 (EDT)

Louisville
Hey, where'd you find the pics of Louisville? I've been meaning to take some, but never got around to it. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 09:30, 17 July 2007 (EDT)

Leamington (Ontario) vs Leamington
FYI - On towns like this where there are a very few small ones with the same name (and actually anytime the name hasn't been used already in Wikivoyage you should probably do this) don't use the disambiguated version (the first one above), just cop the name for your article like the second one. Whoever makes the second article with that name should disambiguate both, make a disambiguation page and list that at Project:Links to disambiguating pages. Thanks. And thanks for your continuing work in that area. (WT-en) OldPine 16:59, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Re:Hmmm
Thank you for your message on my ja: user page, however, I have no idea what exactly you are talking about. What did I do wrong??--(WT-en) Shoestring 10:55, 4 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Nothing, I thought I did. (WT-en) 2old 11:23, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

 * Shoestring added tag to uncategorized images. It's good for someone wishes to find images for articles on other language version, when someone follows links from Shared main page to a category for wished destination. When you use a  tag for your image, the Location tag is not needed. Because its location= field calls the Location tag internally, so the same categorization occurs. I think that the Imagecredit tag looks fine and is good for formatting, so please use the Imagecredit tag rather than the Location tag. -- (WT-en) Tatata 13:29, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Those images
Hello Mike, I want to say again that thank you for the photos!

Going on to the main subject, I may not understand your true intent, but I have to say something about this... The license of the text and the images by (WT-en) the contributor is currently not clear. Still I am suspicious of him/her, though it said "I have all the rights". Maj tried to contact, but I have not heard the result from her at this time. -- (WT-en) Tatata 11:33, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

 * My true intent, is to contact the creator. Those were as good as it gets, in my mind. I would like to know how to use photoshop to remove haze from photos. I know it can be done as well as removing yellow from old photos. I know how to do the yellow thing, but cannot find the haze remover tool. (WT-en) 2old 11:40, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

 * Sorry for misunderstanding. There is a photo credits page on the site, but it's hard to reach the real creator.
 * About Photoshop, Japanese page of Adobe Photoshop 7.0 said that the Tone Curve function is used for faded/discolored photos. Sorry this is my limit because I have never used it... ;=) I'll go to bed tonight. Have a good day! -- (WT-en) Tatata 13:32, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Images on shared:
Hello!

I left messages on your shared: talk page about images without a license and VFD. -- (WT-en) Tatata 23:17, 20 August 2007 (EDT)

Bzz. bzzz Bz
Bzzzz Bz zzzzz Bz Bzzzzz? (WT-en) Workerbee 13:38, 24 August 2007 (EDT)

Cleveland cleanup
Hey it would be great to see a general Cleveland cleanup! I confess that one of the big reasons I've wanted to fix up the Chicago guide is that it might spur others to do the same ;) In answer to your questions:

 * 1) The numbered links are weird, and no one likes them much, but that is the way they should display, per current policy. In any rate, its definitely best to use the listings tags (at the bottom of the edit window) for all listings so that we can automatically manipulate their format across the entire site if we make a policy change.
 * 2) "1+ 999-666-7777" is close, but not quite. The + should come before the one, and it's not worth the bother to italicize the one, since italics won't display in the listings templates. +1 999-666-7777, +1 999 666-7777, or +1 999 666-7777 are all valid ways to do it, so feel free to pick whichever format you like best. We'll eventually standardize these, but that will happen automatically, not by hand.
 * 3) Front linked listings are evil and against policy. No one really likes the current link formats, but a recent attempt to build a consensus for any other specific option failed miserably. Bold type shouldn't be used excessively, but it is quite useful as a tool to help people skim articles by calling out important topics. I think the main Chicago article is a good example of how to effectively use bold face type.

Hope that helps, and if you have any more questions that I could help with, you know where to find me ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:59, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Question
2old can you help my wiki travel pages?
 * I looked at your contributions and I would suggest you first register as a user and not make any more pages until you better understand this project. Your pages will most likely be deleted by the site administrators (I am not one.) Registering as a user will be a good start. (WT-en) 2old 12:03, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Camera
Thanks a lot for the offer on my talk page, but I have another digital camera coming. (WT-en) Pashley 10:32, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

Regarding the admin nominations
Thanks a ton. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 06:35, 21 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Thanks for the offer. I've only been to one state in the US so far, and that was New York. I was only 5 at that time, and I spent more time in the plane and less on American soil. (You can also count NJ because my flight was to Newark :) ) If I ever visit the states in the near future, I'll certainly try to go to Ohio. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 07:05, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

 * Ohio is seriously one of the best states to visit for anyone. Cincinnati has history, strong artistic and cultural heritage, great food, but most importantly - the Bengals.  Columbus has lots of arts, college, its the capital, and has endless opportunities.  Cleveland is a beautiful town, well, at least the downtown area was.  I, personally, don't like Cleveland very much compared to Columbus, Cincinnati, or other Midwestern towns.  I was seriously disappointed by the The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, which also increased my distaste for Cleveland.  In Cleveland's defense, it does have some of the most fascinating architecture in all of Ohio.  Plus, Ohio is quintessentially American - rolling farmlands, lakes, yet it has metropolises with endless opportunities for entertainment and education.  I recommend the University of Cincinnati, though ;).  Even an American President attended UC.

 * Afterwards, you'll need to be sure to visit Indy and Philly, but DO NOT go to Pittsburgh. It's the worst city in the world for anyone to go to!  -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 11:53, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

 * Hey now, I love Pittsburgh! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:34, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the advice, folks! (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 05:03, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Cleveland
Hi Mike,

I just glanced over the Cleveland article. By the way, sorry for taking so long to reply. Cleveland will need a lot of work to get into shape, but if you and I tackle it with the possible help of (WT-en) Ryan we could get it done in a fairly short time. Most noticeably, we need contact info and better descriptions for most listings.

Also, we need to trim the Cleveland proper article down and make sure no information is duplicated on it and the district guides. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 11:53, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

 * I have taken a swipe at cleaning up the Cleveland article. Honestly, I do not know where to go from here. Cleveland is trying to "clean up". I was impressed the last time I visited. However, when a big part of your industry leaves, things are bound to go downhill. Plus, I do not have the jounralistic skills to add much to any article. I pretty much limit myself to brief descriptions and hope the spelling is right. I hope you are enjoying Poland and fill us in. (WT-en) 2old 11:11, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

Image:O'Hare Neon Walkway.jpg
Thanks, but I can only take credit for having sifted it from the chaff—I'm not the photographer for this one! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:36, 3 November 2007 (EDT)

Bristol and the AT
Hi, Mike. Dunno if you noticed that the AT link was removed from Bristol (which is the Bristol in England. Was it Bristol (Connecticut) that you were aiming at? -- (WT-en) OldPine 11:23, 23 November 2007 (EST)
 * Nope, Bristol, Tenn., you know the home of Tennesee Ernie Ford and NASCAR. I thought I had checked all those links, but thank you for catching that. I am surprised that Bristol and Johnson City have no WT articles. Both are travel destinations. (WT-en) 2old 12:17, 23 November 2007 (EST)
 * Yeah, one would think those would get covered. Only a matter of time before someone does a NASCAR itinerary I suppose. --(WT-en) OldPine 12:34, 23 November 2007 (EST)

NASCAR etc
Agree with your comments and perspective. I took a quick look right away and notice that we do not list any racing in the USA "Do" section under Professional Sports. I am probably the farthest thing from an auto racing fan (can't really say why...just a preference), but I agree it's wildly popular in the US and should be more prominent.

Just before I noticed your edit I was looking at Washington (D.C.) and noticed that the See (and Do) sections have very little, mostly just a reference to a 4 day itinerary. I don't think there's any mention of places like the US Mint. There's a lotta empty holes out there, pardner. -(WT-en) OldPine 12:34, 24 November 2007 (EST)

The vandal
You're welcome.

This gay-travel thing is completely out of hand. That guy apparently has no life and no need for sleep. A permanent solution will require at least a change in the open-proxy policy, and that might not suffice... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 15:16, 27 November 2007 (EST)
 * I am not a gay traveler, but I would like to put that guy on a gay cruise ship and let them deal with him. (WT-en) 2old 15:21, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Why don't you stay off the Holmes County page?
You shouldn't post about that which you know nothing.

Please step aside and let people who know what they are doing correct your atrociously poor information.
 * Another satisfied customer. Please discuss edits on discussion page of Holmes County. MS

Thanks for the welcome back ... Not much access
Take it easy..... (WT-en) WindHorse 11:52, 29 November 2007 (EST)

Santa's Grotto
Well, darnit, the site was still working fine when I added it. I've taken it out now. (WT-en) Jpatokal 17:35, 26 December 2007 (EST)

Admin nomination
Hey Mike, I've nominated you as an administrator! Please indicate whether you are willing to accept the role. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 06:31, 23 January 2008 (EST)

Wandering (in)
Hey there 2Old. Thanks for the kind words (your email)! I haven't wandered off, just decided that some distance from wikivoyage would be appropriate. It's no skin of my back whether the contentious images are kept or deleted (I'm not exactly going around peddling guidebooks that use these, or any other, pictures!) and could see no reason to get into an ugly fight over them. Since I usually can't keep my mouth shut, I decided to wander off for a bit instead. Anyway, I'm around again. You just won't see me commenting on votes for deletion and those sorts of things! --(WT-en) Wandering 15:51, 18 February 2008 (EST)

 * I hate being made to shut up but I realize I fell into the fundamental trap that the Buddha warns us of "Therefore don't take a liking to anything. To lose what one likes is hard, but there are no bonds for those who have no likes and dislikes." I guess I got too involved with the wikivoyage idea. You, with your rejection of the admin nomination, are much wiser. Also, I do suspect that what is merely a theoretical issue to me is of practical importance to the people publishing guide books. As my finance professor used to say (if that's not the perfect companion phrase for the one from the Buddha, I don't know what is!), "never step on the cash flow!". Nah. The kinder and gentler wandering gazes at wikivoyage with an avuncular eye and says, "let them have their images!" --(WT-en) Wandering 17:16, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Buddah
That was the other Buddah. The one that said "Opinions are like belly buttons, irritating when tickled." I think wikivoyage is a great idea and will do fine with or without you me and dupree (jpatokal). WTP is not a bad idea either, I don't see how these pages can be independently useful without some kind of fact checking and leg work - which, I hope, they are doing. It would be nicer if WTP were run as a non-profit but we don't live in a perfect world. It would be nice too if the individuals profiting from the many contributions freely offered here went the extra mile (I'll take an inch!) to be nice to contributers (where has 203.144.143.4 gone?). But, we don't live in a perfect world. I think I wandered in to wikivoyage blindly (that is in the nature of a wanderer) thinking it was just another wiki like wikipedia and now realize that it is not. But then, it is not a perfect world! IMHO, the first improvement that this project needs is some clarification on the relationship between WTP and WT. In particular, is there a relationship? Why are WTP ads allowed but not, say, Lonely Planet ads (I can think of several good reasons but would like to hear something from the WTP people)? How does WT intend to handle conflict of interest issues between admins and guidebook owner/editors? How will WT protect its contributers (most of whom will never profit from it) but also serve the needs of the guidebook guys? How can WT make the guidebook publication process inclusive rather than exclusive? It does seem to me that the guidebook guys are mostly acting in good faith but I wish they would clarify first and do later. For now, I prefer to sleep soundly at night! --(WT-en) Wandering 17:50, 19 February 2008 (EST)

 * My point (you me and dupree) was that wikivoyage will not be affected if a particular user chooses not to contribute, whether that particular user be Wandering, 2Old or jpatokal. There are many new users signing up every day and the site will go on and thrive. It has clearly reached a critical mass of articles and users and I'm sure that IB and WTP can see that very clearly. It is a good product, no doubt about that.  --(WT-en) Wandering 16:31, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Charitable Ads
Hey 2old, thanks for keeping the ball rolling on this... It's a very worthy endeavor... Afraid I'm often away from from internet these days, so not able to contribute much to the debate. At the moment, just spending a few days at home and enjoying the luxury of broadband connection... though will be out of contact again soon... Take it easy, man... really wish you success with IB... (WT-en) WindHorse 10:20, 4 March 2008 (EST)

Cabela's
Sorry to say I didn't make it there—from a travel perspective, the trip was not a resounding success. The campaign kept me busy and exhausted daily, and on the two nights when I set forth on adventures, I was largely thwarted by snow and ice. Kind of amazing really—I was prevented from visiting Hell by all the snow! To top it off, I forgot my camera at home. I did at least get to visit the Toledo Art Museum, which was great, and Detroit, which was overwhelmingly big and alien. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:21, 6 March 2008 (EST)

New pics
Sorry, I've actually got lots of pics ready to go, but just haven't gotten around to uploading them. Will try to remedy that today... (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:38, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

Local culture
You stated that the article was already covered in "understand and respect". Where is that article, so I can see if there's anything I can still add/transform 81.245.173.132 11:44, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

Still here
I've been lurking and getting my kicks as a voyeur! Meanwhile, life has become impossibly crazy and, at least for a bit, travel seems to be a distant dream (though I am off to Madrid for a couple of days next month). I notice you've been slipping in and out of wikivoyage as well. Anything interesting, project wise? You should think about publishing one of these wikivoyage 'hot-of-the-press' guide things. --(WT-en) Wandering 15:01, 22 October 2008 (EDT)

...and this is why I like it here
Thanks. The "annoys the pig" bit reminds me why it sometimes seems therapeutic to contribute here :) Glad to see you back. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:14, 26 November 2008 (EST)

Highway navigation box
Hi there. I have proposed a new sort of navigation box here. I would really appreciate your input. (WT-en) Texugo 06:47, 5 December 2008 (EST)

 * Thanks for the feedback. I'm excited to see this get rolling! (WT-en) Texugo 12:00, 20 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks
Thanks. Unfortunately my exams are on so I'll be busy till April, and then there's the Cricket World T20 and exams again.... :( so I may not get much time to contribute in the coming 6 months.... (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 02:48, 24 March 2009 (EDT)

coin facts wiki
Hey there, I saw your link in Janis talk page, and while it's off topic from this site, I looked through it a tiny bit and it looks like a good site. Good job! Good luck there. (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 18:49, 27 May 2009 (EDT).

Please see the following of why I changed the Puerto Vallarta Information
Just so you know, I have traveled all over the world and am well traveled. Individuals need to know this information.

I have had many good experiences in Mexico; however, I can say I will never go back until they get their crime under control. Not the petty crime that takes place everywhere. I mean the real crime, the police in Mexico. They are as corrupt as they come. We just got back from what was supposed to be a nice vacation for my partner’s 50th birthday. Our truncated trip was to Puerto Vallarta a place we have been numerous times and have often recommended to friends and family. We were stopped and arrested by the Mexican Police as we were walking down a sidewalk and doing absolutely nothing. It was a dark street and no one around. The police pickup truck did not say “police” on the side that was visible to us. Two men got out of the white pickup and approached us. (Keep in mind that we were aware that crime has been on the rise in Mexico and we know from friends who have been victims themselves.) We kept walking a bit faster to get to a lighted corner. I began whistling loudly and buzzed a nearby Hotel's buzzer to get peoples attention and started yelling for the police. After a few local people came out to see what was happening, they tried to resolve the problem with the police. The police did not want to let them help translate. The "police" then frisked us, handcuffed us together and put us in the back of their beer can littered truck bed. Then they handcuffed us to the bed of the truck, drove us down a deserted road, stopped the truck, but eventually took us to the police station about 30 minutes away. After an hour cuffed to an outside bench, they interrogated us, made us use a breathalyzer, smelled our fingers for drugs, and then put us in jail cell for over 8 hours. Never once did they tell us why they approached us to begin with or how long we would have to stay. We asked to contact the US Consulate and/or make a phone call. They told us that we would be able to do so later and that they would contact the US Consulate, but neither was done. When we asked again, they mocked us, saying they would contact the Consulate. Finally we were told that we would have to stay for twelve hours and we were arrested for aggressiveness. A Mexican Immigration official came shortly afterward, we explained what had transpired and he told us that immigration had no issue with us and that we could stay or go without a problem. We asked him if he could contact the US Consulate and he said that he would get in trouble with the police. It was quite obvious that he knew that we were jailed wrongly. He then said he would see what he could do to get us free. Eventually someone came up to us and said that we could get a lawyer, that happened to be there, and each pay his $500 peso fee and get out of jail within a short amount of time. If we did not use him, we would have to stay eight more hours which was four hours more than originally told and that we would “probably” be released at that time without a fee. Obviously, we paid the fee which amounted to about $40 dollars each, we were not allowed to have copies of any of the paper work and had to sign it without reading it. This whole ordeal is one that should never even have happened. A few other notes you should know. The jail cell smelled of urine, there was a broken toilet that leaked all over the floor; there was no bench or anything to sit on other than the floor. There were bugs and flys all around. The handcuffs cut my wrist. I have bruises on my arms. My wrist is swollen and sore to the touch as well as my back. When the officer put me in the open bed truck he told me that he would have me deported the next day. The other officers were talking among themselves and referred to us as maricón or faggots and said we don’t need people like you here. Each time I saw the police when we were heading back to the hotel, I felt sick to my stomach. Needless to say, we left on the first flight we could get back to Chicago and gave up the rest of the vacation.

I recommend that you let other people know that this is a common event in Puerto Vallarta and all of Mexico. Please be careful if you are traveling there and maybe reconsider your plans to a place that is more worthy of your travel dollars.

The local businesses are aware of the problem and have been trying to do something about it. Please read the article from PV's news. http://www.banderasnews.com/0703/edat-gaysypolicia.htm
 * Thank you for your comments. I think your comments on the Puerto Vallarta page may have been more accurate had you mentioned that this may have been an arrest that may have been driven by homophobic reasoning. As you know, there is a large area of Puerto Vallarta that is pretty much devoted to the gay visitor, and they seem to be well received. I am not suggesting that gays should be restricted to a certain area of any community, but gays should be sensitive to the homophobic fears of others. Mexicans have a strict Roman Catholic heritage that is reflected in the attitudes of their military and law enforcement personnel. I do not think you can expect much sensitivity from most of them. Likely they were playing with you, or taunting you. I can see this as a reason to warn gays against open affection or flaunting in areas not dedicated to the gay visitor, but I do not think it is a reason to try to crucify the entire community, nor make it sound as if they Police are terrorists. I have found Puerto Vallarta to be a tranquil, sleepy place to visit. And I enjoyed it. (WT-en) 2old 14:44, 10 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:31.221.13.18

Your Kenwood travel "article" has been deleted. Read don't tout, tour, and Project:What is an article?, and please do not repost such an "article." Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 16:10, 12 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 31o5

Welcome to Wikivoyage
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 05:49, 23 November 2006 (EST)

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Hi. Someone at this ip# added a lisiting for Bud Rips a while back; you might wish to see and perhaps comment at Talk:New Orleans/Bywater. (WT-en) Infrogmation 15:07, 11 July 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:36.37.237.48

Hello, 36.37.237.48! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Khao San Road
Stop adding your listing from Siem Reap in the Bangkok/Khao San Road article. I will keep reverting it, as it is not allowed. That article is a star article, and thus a showcase on Wikivoyage. Also, in the Siem Reap article, only place your listing there once (under one section), and please read Project:Don't tout. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 07:03, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:36.37.238.59

Rental listings
Rentals are usually not listed on Wikivoyage. Read Project:Accommodation listings, but know straightaway that no exclusively long-term rentals can ever be listed. If you have more questions after reading that link, ask them either here or in the Project:Travellers' Pub, but DO NOT repost your listing verbatim again. Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:03, 14 December 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 365 Tours and Safaris

Hello, 365 Tours and Safaris! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:24, 12 February 2010 (EST)

 * Please pay special attention to Project:Don't tout and Project:External Links. You will see that the promotional tone of the listing you placed was inappropriate and that links to a safari booking agents are not permissible. I have therefore reverted your edits. Thanks.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:24, 12 February 2010 (EST)

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User talk:38.101.13.2

Please read SEO. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 16:07, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

 * I've temporarily blocked you from editing. Please leave a note on this talk page after you have read the SEO guidelines. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 20:03, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

 * Can you unblock me? I believe that I have followed the submission rules. I need to add several hotel listings.  Wikivoyage is an authoritative website were potential travelers can find information. I setup an account and still had listings removed.  Please, explain your motives for blocking and removing my submissions. -Eric

 * Did you read the SEO guideline I listed above??? That guideline explains our policy for businesses that add multiple listings to Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:59, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

 * I sure did, created an account, added listing using the provided template and kept the marketing speak to a minimum, ex. "hotel offers a golf course..." Can you explain why my listings are being removed if I am following your "SEO guideline listed above" —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Eric13 (talk • contribs)

 * No one has removed any edits you've made while logged in - the only edits you've made using an account were to this talk page. See Special:Contributions/(WT-en) Eric13. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:30, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

 * I had to create another account to post comments to this page as the account I created to submit hotels is not accessible anymore. And I can assure you that listings submitted under that account were removed. The previous account was "hwshotels." Any thoughts? User:(WT-en) Eric13

 * I don't see any contributions made for an account with that name. Special:Contributions/(WT-en) Hwshotels returns nothing. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:07, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

 * Here is is: Special:Contributions/(WT-en) HWSHotels. The only contribution made by that account was to create a user page; no listings were added to any articles. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:26, 8 April 2010 (EDT)

 * I created it again, so it had to have been deleted. I tried several times to log back into "HWSHotels" and received "username does not exist."  I created a new account using the same username "hwshotels" and successfully created that account.  I am not sure what happened.  I will try to submit my listings again.  Thanks for your help User:(WT-en) Eric13 User:(WT-en) Hwshotels

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User talk:38.105.67.2

User Editing Block
Hi there, sorry for interrupting your editing. We've made several attempts to contact you in the past (see the my talk link at the top of the page) but you haven't responded or altered your behaviour. This led us to think that possibly there isn't a real person making your edits, but rather an automated 'bot', which is prohibited. Could you please read your talk page and the linked policies. Your block will expire in ten minutes. We would welcome further contributions after your block expires if you make efforts to follow our policies- (WT-en) Huttite 15:25, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Welcome
Welcome to Wikivoyage. We have an introductory page for business owners--please take a minute to read it before going on with your edits. What's most important when adding your properties to the listings are: be fair and don't tout. Your recent additions on behalf of Luxury Resorts or the operators of their hotel's websites look very much like an advertisement. Wikivoyage strives to avoid being an "advertising brochure" for any business, city, or service--so {please edit|I have edited} your text to describe the establishment rather than trying to sell it to a reader. I would recommend to read Project:Don't tout article before your future edits--and we would happy to see you back editing here but also respecting our guidelines ;-) BTW, we would recommend you registering a login name at Wikivoyage too. because some Wikivoyage Administrators want to talk to you!

User Editing Ban
We've made several attempts to contact you in the past (see below) but you haven't responded or altered your behaviour. This led us to think that possibly there isn't a real person making your edits, but rather an automated 'bot', which is prohibited. Could you please read our guidelines and the linked policies on this page. We are about impose a User Editing Ban that will block your anonymous editng. Your ban will expire in a few hours or if you log in and create an account. We would welcome further contributions after your ban expires and then make efforts to follow our policies. - (WT-en) Huttite 15:25, 7 February 2009 (EST)

Earlier Messages
Please knock it off with the touting hotel edits and the commission links. -- (WT-en) OldPine 14:48, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

Hi, and welcome to Wikivoyage. If you were to add listings more like this one you added back in May and less like this one, your edits would be more likely to stay untouched. (WT-en) LtPowers 14:52, 20 August 2008 (EDT)

So what are you doing, just copying and pasting from the Hyatt web site? (WT-en) LtPowers 20:34, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

Edits like this, where you repeatedly use the word "our", make it appear that you are touting for Hyatt. Please don't do this. (WT-en) LtPowers 14:57, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

 * Since you aren't willing to abide by (or probably even read) our policies, I'm planning revert all your edits. If you feel like reforming your practices here, let me know, otherwise I'll just keep reverting. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:13, 29 September 2008 (EDT)

 * I'd really rather discuss your edits with you than simply revert them. But if not, I'm going to keep reverting all your work. Of course, I might be wasting my breath if you are in fact just running a script and will never read this. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:26, 4 February 2009 (EST)

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User talk:38.126.224.18

Please read our guidelines for hotel marketers. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:32, 15 July 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:38.98.152.2

The bus charter stuff is probably off-target for a general-purpose travel guide; I've removed the links you've added. --(WT-en) Evan 17:40, 4 December 2006 (EST)

so people never travel in groups of 10 or more and if they did they would avoid your site?

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User talk:(WT-en) 3cs

Hello, 3cs! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please stop adding your hotel to the main India page. As you will notice, no other hotels are listed there, as they belong only in our city destination guides. Adding multiple links, and edit warring to put your establishment back, is considered spamming, and can get your website blacklisted. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:51, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

 * A hotel in Pondicherry belongs in, surprise surprise, Pondicherry. Nowhere else. (WT-en) Jpatokal 00:54, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

 * Hi. I reverted your addition to Sri Lanka. The hotel entry needs to go in the appropriate city article.  --(WT-en) Inas 02:45, 18 May 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) 3dtravelfile

Hello 3dtravelfile!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for experimenting with Saguaro National Park. This is not Wikipedia and there is no Image:dusk in 3D.jpg uploaded. All images you upload should comply with the Project:Image policy. -- (WT-en) Huttite 18:42, 7 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * I have reverted the changes you made to Saguaro National Park as no image was uploaded. -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:37, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 3l3phant

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User talk:(WT-en) 3vsani

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Images
Please remember to select a license when uploading images, otherwise they will likely be deleted. Thank you! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 02:59, 16 July 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) 3wisemen

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 13:24, 17 February 2007 (EST)

Sign
I realized you haven't been clued into signing your name. To do so simply type four tildes (~). So ~ will produce something similar to this: -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 18:00, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

--Thanx for the tip, but I have and don't really see where this one is coming from right now?! Could you please elaborate? {(WT-en) 3wisemen}

Ao Thong Nai Pan Noi and Ao Thong Nai Pan Yai
Hi 3wisemen. Wikivoyage doesn't generally have articles for beaches or lakes etc, but instead they are listed under the nearest center of population. See: Project:Bodies of water. However, according to the maps for Ko Pha Ngan, it appears that the swathe of buildings that surround the beaches are actually named after the beaches themselves. Therefore, in this case, we can use the names of the beaches as the article titles. Also as the beaches are separated by a headland, they can be designated as separate articles. The problem with using a slash in the title is that no one will type in XXXX/XXXX in the search box. Hope this solution is ok with you. (WT-en) WindHorse 07:56, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

--Hi WindHorse, Thanx for the quick reply and solution. You were also quick on the understanding of the beach situation on the island. I'll sort the beaches out later in separate entities. Thanx again {(WT-en) 3wisemen}

 * Jpatokal has suggested that we merge the two as "Ao Thong Nai Pan" as apparently that's what the maps call the area. What do you think? Is that a common name for the area that covers both the beaches? (WT-en) WindHorse 08:41, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

 * WindHorse, it does make sense, since it is considered one area. I can explain in the article about the specifics of getting to the two beaches etc, it's actually easier. So it's fine with me {(WT-en) 3wisemen 09:01, 24 March 2007 (EDT)}
 * OK. Let's do that. If you give me thirty minutes, I'll set it up. (WT-en) WindHorse 09:17, 24 March 2007 (EDT)
 * Thanx, WindHorse!Guess I'll have to fill this darn page with some quality info now ;-) {(WT-en) 3wisemen 09:21, 24 March 2007 (EDT)}

Report
Hi, I moved this from the logbook -- language reports now go on Shared, the "language neutral" site... Make a link from the wts:Liaison report page and add it there. Let me know if you have any questions! Thanks for the update! (WT-en) Maj 14:19, 15 May 2007 (EDT) Mid May 2007: An update from the Nederlandstalige, (NL) site. First time I do this, just hope this is the right place for it.

After a little dip during last winter we have gained some new momentum.

Since Feb there are two new weirdo's active who became admins/sysops or whatever. Together they worked on the structure of the site. One was/is working on formats, provinces etc, the other (me) took care of a few project pages. You can now browse through the project-pages and see blue instead of red links and by clicking on them 95% of them are actually in Dutch. For a while these two clowns were the only ones contributing, but now you see more people showing up on a daily basis to share the knowledge they have. Articles aren't really big yet. When looking at the ''long pages list you'll see the following:

Article number  1 is 133.705 bytes (China) Article number 50 is   6.460 bytes Article number 100 is  3.313 bytes

New Users: Apr 2007 : 14 Mar 2007 : 10 Feb 2007 : 15 Jan 2007 : 16 Dec 2006 : 11

But already 11 in May and we're only half way

Future:
 * More formats, templates etc for easy writing of the articles
 * Get more travelers to write

Keep you posted. {(WT-en) 3wisemen}

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User talk:(WT-en) 3yourself

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Welcome
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User talk:41.136.221.234

Don't tout
Please stop attempting to use Wikivoyage as a place for free advertising. We have a policy against that. If you persist in advertising your car rental companies, they may be blacklisted or/and your account may be blocked. Please instead post non-promotional information travelers can use. The traveller comes first here, not the salesman or business owner, though we do welcome non-touty contributions from business owners.

Please go to the Travellers' Pub if you have any questions.

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Please clarify ref to alcohol. You say that consumption is NOT permitted but you then say that it can be obtained at some bars and shops. Please also logging in under a Wikivoyage Account. Thanks (WT-en) Shep 11:20, 11 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:41.141.111.186

The listing that you keep re-adding to articles is invalid per our Tour policy. Please stop adding it to articles. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:23, 20 September 2010 (EDT)

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What is an article?
Hi. Your "article" about the Moroccan Views travel agency has been deleted. First, Wikivoyage guides are about places, not tours. Secondly, tours are usually not allowed even one listing anywhere.

Please reply to prove that you are not a spambot and read this. Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 06:45, 24 December 2011 (EST)

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User talk:41.142.199.28

Hello there, Welcome to Wikivoyage.

The hotel you listed in Fez was already listed, at the very bottom of the sleep section, under "splurge". I therefore undid your edit, but feel free to add or edit other listings or information.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) Justme 16:29, 10 September 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.145.116.75

Please contact me on my Talk page about the name of the barge off the quarry. (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 14:46, 8 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:41.145.178.137

''This page is for discussing the corresponding article or guide. For questions, comments, or personal stories about this destination or topic, visit Wikivoyage Extra. For more about using talk pages check out Project:Using talk pages.''

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Hello, 41.145.178.137! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thanks for your contributions on Lesotho, if you might want to work on the Sesotho language, you could work rather on the Sesotho phrasebook. -- (WT-en) Babbelas 11:01, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:41.145.25.108

The list of churches in the Jeffreys Bay article is in alphabetical order - if you think it should be changed please discuss on Talk:Jeffreys Bay. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:34, 29 October 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.145.38.179

Hello, 41.145.38.179! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for your contribution to Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Di's Cracks

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

If you have any objection to your edit being licenced under CC-by-sa 3.0, please contact me. (WT-en) Pbsouthwood 10:21, 11 October 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:41.186.0.43

Great work on Nyungwe National Park, please keep it up!

By the way, have you considered creating an account at Wikivoyage? It gives a bunch of benefits:
 * Easier communication — you will receive others' comments on your personal talk page, even if your future visits are from another IP.
 * Credit for your contributions — at the bottom of any article you edit.
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--(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:09, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.201.99.171

Hey! Thanks for your corrections in the Algerian Talk section !

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User talk:41.204.132.35

Please see Project:Don't tout - businesses should be listed in only the article for the city in which the business is located. Copying listings to multiple articles is strongly discouraged. If you have questions feel free to ask on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:09, 28 September 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.209.76.43

Hi

Please have a look at the What not to link to guidelines - thanks. ~ 203.144.143.4 09:21, 14 January 2008 (EST)

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User talk:41.212.200.103

Hi there. Please have a look at our External links policy. Links to other guides, like the one you keep adding to Mauritius will be removed. Thanks. (WT-en) Texugo 02:00, 28 November 2008 (EST)

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User talk:41.213.126.5

Hi and welcome to Wikivoyage. I have edited your contribution on the dive site at Miracle Waters to comply with the Wikivoyage format for dive sites, and would like to invite you to add more information under the empty headings. You can also add photos of the site on Wikivoyage Shared at http://shared.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Special:Upload and link to them from the article. If you have any difficulty feel free to contact me on my talk page. If you have trouble getting formatting right dont worry, the content is the most important thing, anything can be fixed, so go ahead and put in what you can. Cheers (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 03:50, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

I have also edited your contribution on Bass Lake, and the same comments apply. Please feel free to add more sites and add content to any existing site. Cheers, (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 04:24, 9 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.214.219.154

I took out the phrase "utilizing 669,637 passenger cars" because it was confusing and extraneous.

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User talk:41.220.128.4

Please reply to this message to prove you are not a spambot
If you are reading this, what you did in substituting the entire Mount Kilimanjaro article for spam that you also duplicated onto its "Talk" page is deplorable and any repeat of such an action will likely result in your account being blocked and any of your touring companies being permanently blacklisted on this site. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:50, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.220.207.12

Hello, 41.220.207.12! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

 * Please note that Wikivoyage policy allows you to list your business only once, so please stop adding it to more than one category at Pemba. Also, website adrresses go inside the url tags in the template, no need to add it again in the body of the text.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:41, 2 January 2010 (EST)

 * Thanks for your response Brenda. I am sure your business provides great service to visitors to Pemba. The main point is that you can list it only once. So you need to decide which section of the article is most appropriate. My view is that you should list in the "Do" section as a dive operator and mention in the listing that you also offer accommodation. Alternatively, you could list in the Sleep section as an accommodation option that also has a dive operation.  I hope that is helpful. A couple of other requests:

 * as you are on the ground in Pemba, please feel free to add more general information about the destination in other sections of the article.
 * you might also like to have a look at Scuba_diving and add any general info that you think appropriate.
 * Cheers. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 01:14, 3 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:41.221.83.249

Added Cafe Javas

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User talk:41.222.56.180

Please see Wikivoyage's guidelines on tour listings and advertising. If you have questions please ask on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:46, 13 October 2011 (EDT)

 * Your recent edits have all been reverted. Please read the policies mentioned above. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 04:21, 15 October 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.222.60.244

Don't tout!
You've gotta stop with the blatant touting and advertising. Read this: http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Don%27t_tout

What you need to know about Wikivoyage policies is all there, and you won't win any editing wars; if you keep on putting up touting, not only will your edits be reverted, but eventually, you risk having your business blacklisted and deleted for good and all. Have a nice day. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 05:16, 17 March 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.227.113.32

Nice work on Hammamet!

By the way, have you considered creating an account at Wikivoyage? It gives a bunch of benefits:
 * Easier communication — you will receive others' comments on your personal talk page, even if your future visits are from another IP.
 * Credit for your contributions — at the bottom of any article you edit.
 * Build a reputation — allow other Wikivoyagers to distinguish you from other anonymous users, and provide you with a greater level of trust.
 * Watchlist — a list of pages for which you want to keep track of future changes.
 * Become a Project:Docent — if you know a destination well and would like to share your knowledge.
 * Preferences menu — customize your Wikivoyage experience.

--(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:48, 22 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.235.167.3

Please see Project:Don't tout and Tour. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:28, 28 June 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.250.170.212

Hi! It is very much frowned up to exchange links from articles to companies. See our tour policy for compliant listings. You are blocked for 10 mins to read our policy. (WT-en) jan 16:44, 29 July 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.250.185.120

Hello, 41.250.185.120! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

Thanks for contributing on Marrakech!

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

By the way, have you considered creating an account here? While you can absolutely keep contributing as an anonymous user, it promises a bunch of benefits, and no obligations. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 15:43, 13 October 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.250.185.222

If you are deleting things for a reason please note that reason in the "Summary" box under the edit area before you submit your edit, otherwise deletions are generally reverted. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:13, 5 May 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:41.250.186.13

Why I'm removing your listings
Read tour and don't tout. Tour agencies generally can't be listed here - especially if they have no local street address - but what no-one can ever do is list their business in more than one place, site-wide. If you do that, all your listings are likely to get removed immediately and, if you repost, repeatedly. And don't post complaints in guides. Ask any questions you have either in the Travellers' Pub or here. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 06:57, 19 December 2011 (EST)

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User talk:41.2.53.62

It's questionable whether the listings you keep adding to Cape Town meet Wikivoyage's tour listing criteria, but there is absolutely no doubt that your attempt to add multiple listings to the article is a violation of the Project:Don't tout guideline. Please stop re-adding these listings, otherwise your business may need to be added to Wikivoyage's blacklist. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:49, 1 May 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.2.85.9

There have been several attempts to make you aware of the Project:Don't tout and Tour policies, yet you have been returning every evening to add your listings to multiple articles. Continuing to place multiple listings on the site will lead to blacklisting of your company, so PLEASE read the referenced policies. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:34, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.2.93.160

Please see Project:Don't tout and the guidelines on tour companies. Copying the same listing to multiple articles is highly discouraged. If you have questions feel free to ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:25, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:41.41.46.102

Why did you delete most of the Delhi article? Post to Talk:Delhi and seek a consensus before making such huge deletions. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 00:12, 23 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Can you specify the reason for your edits using the "Summary" box? I don't understand why you have deleted some information, for example as you did in this edit, and typically when someone deletes information and it isn't clear why they did so we revert the edit. -- Ryan • (talk) • 06:26, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Your recent edits
Not to put too fine a point on it, but your edits thus far have been baffling, borderline nonsensical, and of dubious relevance to travelers. I highly recommend that you familiarize yourself with our policies before some administrator who is more skeptical than I am regarding your motives blocks you for vandalism. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 06:56, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Your block
...has just expired.

It bears emphasizing that a one-month block for an IP-only user is a big deal here on Wikivoyage. Such a thing never occurs unless you've been blocked before for shorter periods of time and those blocks failed to solve the problem. That's exactly what happened with you and your issue with vandalism. Speaking as a Wikivoyage administrator, I assure you that we do not take such things lightly.

Please: if only for the sake of your own good standing on this site, I highly recommend that you familiarize yourself with Wikivoyage's goals and policies, and—above all—respond to any messages that are left on your talk page.

Good luck in the future.

-- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 23:24, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi. I just reverted an apparently vandalistic edit in the Cairo guide. If I see one more instance of vandalism from you, given your track record, I am going to block your account for 3 months. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:34, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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User talk:4.152.6.11

encyclopediadramatica has lulz

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User talk:41.6.42.217

Hello, 41.6.42.217! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:27, 30 December 2009 (EST)

 * Your travel service company is not a valid link at Wikivoyage according to the external links policy. Therefore please stop adding it to South African articles. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:27, 30 December 2009 (EST)

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User talk:41.92.14.43

Read wbo, dt, tour, and stop spamming. If you continue to post links for your tour agency all over the place, it will be necessary to block your account, and might become necessary to blacklist your URL. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:07, 24 June 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:4.241.221.206

A little formatting would be appreciated. How about some spaces after the commas at least if you aren't going to learn the ways here?

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User talk:4.244.215.218

Sorry, I had to revert your changes on the Alton page. Please check out Project:External links -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 17:55, 16 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:4.250.201.183

Hello anonymous user!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

You may like to read our External links policy before adding more external links that (WT-en) Colin Jensen will enjoy removing again. You should discuss your complaint on the talk page. -- (WT-en) Huttite 00:04, 19 Mar 2005 (EST)

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User talk:46.27.17.151

Please see Project:External links and Project:Don't tout for an explanation of why your contributions were removed. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:35, 24 May 2012 (EDT)

 * You have been blocked for 1 day for spamming. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 16:53, 14 June 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:46.99.251.118

Reading list
Please read Project:What is an article?, wbo, and dt. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 07:40, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:49.248.129.46

Definition of spamming, as understood on Wikivoyage
Hi. You cannot post the same listing to different pages on this site. That constitutes spamming, and is forbidden under Wikivoyage's touting policy. Your edits are all being reverted, and I would suggest that you seek other sites to post free advertisements, because you cannot do that here. Thanks.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 05:19, 27 February 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 4deb

I saw that [Long Beach Island] had a lot of content, and [Beach Haven] was empty. I hope to work on updating the page.

My Homepage: Long Beach Island Summers

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User talk:(WT-en) 4sandvar

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 03:23, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:50.0.18.23

Please do not add multiple listings for the Sin City Gallery to the Las Vegas article - see Project:Don't tout for the official site policy on this matter. You are welcome to add non-promotional information to the existing listing in the "Buy" section of that article. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:51, 20 May 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) 500769

Welcome
Hello, 500769! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Good work on various towns of Delaware, please keep it up! – (WT-en) Vidimian 16:14, 3 November 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:50.128.187.208

Don't tout
Hi. This site is not for free advertising. Read don't tout and act accordingly, or your edits will continue to be reverted. Please cooperate, or down the line, further measures can be taken, including blocking your account or/and blacklisting your site. Of course, none of us want to do that. If you have any questions after reading the link I gave you, feel free to ask them here.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 01:32, 30 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 52xmax

Hello 52xmax!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contributions to Pakistan. However, some of it appears to have been copied directly from Wikipedia, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan#Subdivisions. This is a breach of their copyright. Also Wikipedia and Wikivoyage use different naming conventions. To prevent problems I am reverting your changes. If you could please read our copyleft and follow with the guidelines, you are welcome to edit here. -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:57, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

Images
Many if the images that you uploaded do not have copyright attributions on them. The fact that you identified 2 as personal and one from UPK indicates to me that the other images are copyright that you do not have the rights to. Please advise if this is not the case. These images will be deleted. Please visit Project:Votes for deletion if you have any reason why these images should not be deleted.
 * Image:K2 mount.jpeg
 * Image:Karachi kpt.jpeg
 * Image:Tunnel.jpeg
 * Image:Downtown karachi.jpeg
 * Image:Khi seas 1.jpeg
 * Image:IAA1112.jpeg - from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IAA1112.jpg
 * Image:Shah fai.jpeg
 * Image:Malam jabba.jpeg

I assume these are yours. Please add copyright details so we can use them.
 * Image:Bt lsm 000.jpeg (personal)
 * Image:Nathia church 01.jpeg (my personal)

-- (WT-en) Huttite 05:11, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 5300abc

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) - Cacahuate 21:58, 19 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 5339622z

Hello 5339622z! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) AHeneen 00:31, 16 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) 56casinob306

Spambot?
I think this account is being operated by a spambot. If not, please reply to this post. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:52, 13 February 2012 (EST)

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User talk:58.10.231.185

Please see Project:External links. (WT-en) Jpatokal 13:03, 7 July 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:58.120.24.249

User has been blocked. Was part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:40, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.136.117.38

Please don't tout. This means no links to your booking site or phone numbers for your booking service. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:12, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:58.143.144.234

User has been blocked. Was part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:04, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.143.160.248

User has been blocked. Was part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:06, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.143.63.47

User has been blocked. Was part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:06, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.169.232.171

You are not copying from wikipedia are you? - it does seem like it, please don't - the licenses are incompatible, are we don't have the same goals as wikipedia.

And please do consider signing up here (WT-en) Sertmann 16:31, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

 * Please stop copying from Wikipedia, we can't use their content. If you do not stop, we will have to block you. (WT-en) Jpatokal 17:11, 30 October 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:58.169.28.165

Hello to you to! And Welcome to Wikivoyage! We usually stick to the "talk" pages (click on the "discussion" tab) for our greetings and personal messages, but it was nice of you to stop by and say hello! (WT-en) Majnoona 21:30, 24 April 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:58.179.236.171

Hi -

We create article for geographical places - not tours. Please read Project:Don't tout and our policy on tours before continuing with your edits. Thanks. --(WT-en) Inas 00:34, 21 December 2011 (EST)

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User talk:58.181.144.19

User talk:(WT-en) Priya64
 * Hi! You seem to be a slow learner. Wikivoyage records for every edit the IP adress so we have your track record (logged in or not). Don't tout is still a policy.

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User talk:58.187.216.157

I've reverted some of your "see also" stuff. It violates our Project:External_links external links policy. We want links only to primary sources such as a city's tourist bureau or a hotel's own site, not to secondary sources like other guides, hotel search sites etc. (WT-en) Pashley

Hi Pashley, Thank you very much for your information, I just want to add some useful sites, not mean to violate to TOS, sorry for this again.

Welcome aboard. Have a look at Project:Tips_for_new_contributors and Project:Help. (WT-en) Pashley 05:00, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:58.187.41.226

Hanoi
Thanks for those Hanoi restaurant listings! That was one of the article's weak areas and your additions have helped. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 14:40, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:58.187.45.57

Please be aware that adding multiple travel agency links on various articles is considered spamming will likely lead to your web sites being blacklisted. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:43, 26 January 2011 (EST)

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User talk:58.211.198.210

Hello, 58.211.198.210! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:33, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Good work on Chelmsford and please keep it up. Although it is not compulsory, we do encourage good contributors to open an account here. Apart from anything else, it is much better to communicate with a person rather than an anonymous IP number! Cheers --(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:33, 6 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:58.225.244.196

User appears to have been part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006 but only spammed 3 pages with 1 URL. Recommend block if spams again. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:00, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.235.22.5

User appears to have been part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006 but only spammed 2 pages with 1 URL. Recommend block if spams again. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:59, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User has been blocked. Was part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:07, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.239.241.235

User appears to have been part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006 but only spammed 1 page. Recommend block if spams again. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:55, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:58.28.52.77

Dave Stanton{NZ/168/450}

The Beautiful Village of Geraldine Geraldine Village, Lonely Planet rated as "New Zealand's most beautiful town" and  it's not hard to see why! This sub-alpine village has more than meets the eye. Highly recommended on our must see list when you visit or stay is the new 1066 medieval puzzle world, the Giant jersey and Allison Art all found on Wilson Street. Kiwi Country complex and the "Four peaks plaza", which includes a boutique cheese factory, an Alpaca shop, Barker’s tasty conserves, sauces & beverages for which the village is well known, and of course the famous Berry Barn Bakery.

For “Thrill Seekers and outdoor adventurers” there’s many wonderful bush walks at the Kakahu limekiln, Talbot Forest and nearby Peel Forest. The world’s best Trout and Salmon fishing, White Water rafting the Rangatata River, horse trekking, Golfer's paradise an incredible sixteen courses within an hours drive, Fly a plane at Rangatata Aerodrome, Four Wheel drive Safari’s, or visit the Village's Museum and Vintage Machinery Museum. In winter there is Skiing/snowboarding, (Eight different fields within an hour) and Ice skating and hot pools nearby at Tekapo......and then there is always the Challenge of a trek up “Little” Mount Peel (1311mtrs).

As Geraldine is home to many famous Nz Artists, so you might like to grab an Art trail brochure from the information centre. For evenings, there’s the choice of Geraldine’s old-time Cinema or in season nightly entertainment at “The Taste", "The Easy Way Café”, "Mandel's" or “Village Inn Cafes”. There is a choice of ten takeaway's and Cafe/Restaurant dining venues. The New Stonebridge Conference and Events Centre has been drawing people to town in the celebration of weddings, conferences, birthday parties and other events in a romantic garden park lake side setting.

Now for a place to Stay? Check out the Village website http://www.gogeraldine.co.nz/Accommodation or you can select from those advertised here. (Last night? As Christchurch Airport is just an hour and a half away, You can celebrate your last night here in Geraldine and still easily catch your morning flight from Christchurch international airport.)

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User talk:58.34.78.47

Hi. Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please consider logging in with a User Name. Don't forget to edit the ref to the Starflyer promotion when they stop the promotion!! Thanks (WT-en) Shep 13:02, 16 February 2010 (EST)

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考察阀门的几项主要技术性能
强度性能 阀门的强度性能是指阀门承受介质压力的能力. 阀门是承受内压的机械产品，因而必须具有足够的强度和刚度蝶阀，以保证长期使用而不发生破裂或产生变形平衡阀. 密封性能 阀门的密封性能是指闸阀阀门各密封部位阻止介质泄漏的过滤器能力，它是阀门最重要的技术性能指标截止阀. 阀门的电磁阀密封部位有三处：启闭件与阀座两密封面间的接触处球阀；填料与阀杆和填料函的配和处；阀体阻火器与阀盖的连接处. 其中止回阀前一处的泄漏叫做内漏，液位仪表也就是通常所说的关不严，它将影响阀门截断介质的能力. 对于截断阀类来说，内漏是不允许的. 后两处的调节阀泄漏叫做外漏，即介质从阀内泄漏到阀外. 外漏会造成物料损失，污染环境，严重时还会造成事故. 对于易燃易爆、有毒或有放射的介质，视镜外漏更是不能允许的，因而阀门必须具有可靠的密封性能. 流动介质 介质流过阀门后会产生压力损失（既阀门前后的压力差），也就是阀门对介质的流动有一定的呼吸阀阻力，介质为克服阀门的阻力就要消耗一定的能量. 从节约能源上考虑，设计食品疏水阀和制造阀门时，要尽可能降低阀门对流动介质的阻力. 启闭力和启闭力矩 启闭力和启闭力矩是指阀门开启或关闭所必须施加的作用力或力矩. 关闭阀门时，需要使启闭件与发座两密封面间形成一定的密封比压，同时还要克服阀杆与填料之间、阀杆与螺母的螺纹之间、阀杆端部支承处及其他磨擦部位减压阀的摩擦力，因而必须施加一定的关闭力和关闭力矩，阀门在启闭过程中，所需要的启闭力和启闭力矩是变化的，其最大值是在关闭的最终瞬时或开启的最初瞬时. 设计和制造阀门时应力求降低其关闭力和关闭力矩. 启闭速度 启闭速度是用阀门完成一次开启或关闭动作所需的时间来表示. 一般对阀门的启闭速度无严格要求，但有些工况对启闭速度有特殊要求，如有的要求迅速开启或关闭，以防发生事故，有的要求缓慢关闭，以防产生水击等，这在选用阀门类型时应加以考虑. 动作灵敏度和可靠性 这是指阀门对于介质参数变化，做出相应反应的敏感程度. 对于节流阀、减压阀、调节阀等用来调节介质参数的阀门以及安全阀、疏水阀等具有特定功能的阀门来说，其功能灵敏度与可靠性是��分重要的技术性能指标. 使用寿命 它表示阀门的耐用程度，不锈钢管件是阀门的重要性能指标，并具有很大的经济意义. 通常以能保证密封要求的启闭次数来表示，也可以用使用时间来表示.

我国包装设备业概况与品牌探索
我国包装机械主要有:喷码机 真空包装机 打码机 清洗机械 食品包装机械等,目前我们最紧要的事就是引进计算机仿真设计技术. 德国为使新产品开发速度不断加快，包装机械设计已普遍采用了计算机仿真技术，即将各种机器元素以数据库存入 计算机，设计人员根据要求直接调用各种机器零、部件参数进行设计后，计算机即可自动合成为三维模型. 再把实际生产时的数据和指标输进去，把各种可能发生的 故障输进去，计算机三维模型即可依照真实工作情况进行操作，演示出能达到的生产率是多少？废品有多少？生产线各环节是否能匹配生产，灌装机械瓶颈在何处？使客户根 据显示屏上显示的图像和曲线一目了然，并可根据客户的意见修改模型. 计算机合成速度很快，因此修改工作迅速方便，直到使客户或设计者满意. 采用计算机仿真 设计技术，大大缩短了包装机械的开发设计周期.

另外，工业发达国家在包装机械设备制造方面已积累了许多成功的经验：美国以机电一体化的包 装机械见长，德国则以计量包装机械领先于世界，而日本擅长于应用微机控制技术于包装机的控制之中. 所以，我们在设计和制造设备时可以有意识地借鉴他们的经 验和技术，从而提高自身的能力，为制造差异化的产品提供智力支持.

如何正确选择水泵型号和规格
水泵选型的分类 1、根据泵的工作原理和结构分：

叶片式泵、容积式泵 （和其他类型的泵）如：喷射泵、空气升液泵、电磁泵、真空泵等 叶片式泵如：离心泵、旋涡泵、混流���、轴流泵、螺杆泵等 容积式泵如：往复泵、转子泵 两种 往复泵：电动泵、蒸气泵 电动泵:柱塞（活塞）泵、隔膜泵、计量泵 磁力泵 转子泵：齿轮泵、螺杆泵、罗茨泵、滑片泵等

2、根据介质上分：

清水泵、污水（污物）泵、油泵、耐腐蚀泵、衬氟泵、排污泵等；

3、从使用安装方式上分：

管道泵、液下泵、潜水泵等.

确定了水泵站的设计流量和设计扬程后，就可以利用有关技术图表，进行确定水泵型号和规格，其方法如下：

一、使用水泵性能规格表选泵型

水泵厂在产品目录中都提供了这种表格，表中每一个型号的性能都有三行数据，究竟以哪一行为准呢？一般设计流量和设计扬程应与性能表列出的中间一行的数值相一致，或是相接近，而又必须落在上、下两行的范围内，因为这个范围是水泵运转的高效率区域，这个型号的水泵就认为是符合实际需要的，水泵算是选定了自吸泵.

二、使用水泵选型表选泵型

根据确定的设计扬程和设计流量，在选型表中，横表头查找出与设计扬程电磁阀相符合或相接近的扬程数值；再在纵表头找出与设计流量相一致或相接近的流量数值，纵横相交于小方块，它标出了水泵的型号，初步选出泵型. 化工泵但有时会出现两种泵型都满足设计要求，此时，可把这两种泵型作方案比较��进行技术经济分析，然后选定其中一个合适的泵型. 这种选择水泵的方法比较简便而又快捷.

三、使用水泵性能综合型谱图选泵型

将离心泵、轴流泵、混流泵、真空泵的工作区域全部综合画在同一张图上，这就构成了农用水泵系列综合型谱图，该图绘制比较复杂，但使用比较方便.

根据确定的设计流量和设计扬程水利控制器，在型谱图上，首先在纵坐标上以设计扬程查找出符合扬程要求，而流量不等的几种水泵，然后再在横坐标上以设计流量来确定选用哪一种水泵. 如果设计流量较大时，单泵未能符合要求，可考虑多机作业，但应注意尽量采用相同型号的水泵，化工泵以利于施工安装、管理维修.

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Thanks for all the hard work, but I had to revert it once again. Please don't add external links to our guides, unless it's to the establishments own website. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 01:12, 29 January 2009 (EST)

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User talk:58.65.233.81

Deleted reference to Taco Bell, as it closed there over a year ago!

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User talk:58.67.235.249

Please stop putting your email and phone number in multiple places. Create a user account, say what you like on the user page. Possibly list yourself once as a tour guide under either Guilin or Yangshuo. That's all. The goal hee is to create a travel guide, not to provide advertising for your services.

For example, you recently listed your number & email under "longsheng terraces". Policy here is to list only primary sources. If the town has a web site, then that could be listed there, but travel agents or guides or ticket agents should not be. (WT-en) Pashley 09:47, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

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Please see: our external link policy. All listings must have primary links only. --(WT-en) OldPine 20:33, 23 October 2007 (EDT)

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Sorry — read our external links policy. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 01:47, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

 * To expand on that a bit, info on where to find vegetarian food added to this site (veg-friendly dishes, restaurants etc) is welcome, but the militant baby-murder stuff does not. And oh, if you think Japan is bad, drop into a Chinese market someday... (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:53, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

 * Thanks, your latest series of edits is much better. Why not sign up for an account? (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:32, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Spoke a bit too soon there -- everything you've entered seems to be copied verbatim from HappyCow.net, a copyrighted site. While factual data (addresses, telephone numbers etc) is fine, the restaurant descriptions have to be rewritten in your own words, or we'll have to nuke them.

 * Also, the list of restaurants you dumped into Kyoto needs to be split up into the appropriate districts, see Kyoto. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:40, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

 * ...and, again, your additions to Tokyo will have to be removed: they're also all copied verbatim from HappyCow in violation of its terms of use, which do NOT permit their content to be posted elsewhere or under WT's license; also, any entries added to Tokyo would need to go in the correct districts, though you've added some that aren't even in Tokyo! Please reconsider what you're doing -- continuing to add HC's listings is only going to waste your time, which no one wants.  - (WT-en) Dguillaime 22:52, 7 October 2009 (EDT)

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Gunung Kinabalu Can you list the 3 taller mountains? (WT-en) Greenmango 21:19, 22 July 2008 (EDT)

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Please stop front-linking the listings. Project:Accommodation listings gives the proper formatting. -- (WT-en) OldPine 23:40, 25 October 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:58.72.34.6

User appears to have been part of Spam Attack on 6 January 2006 but only spammed 2 pages with 1 URL. Recommend block if spams again. -- (WT-en) Huttite 08:46, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

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CBD Belapur
Sure. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 00:55, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:58.8.105.246

Hi, I would be interested to know how you know whether the noise of bubbles keeps sharks away or not. Please contact me via my [User Talk:Pbsouthwood|talk page]], Cheers, -- (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 14:53, 12 November 2009 (EST)

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