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Talk:London/Other Attractions

The district heirarchy in London is just too deep and fine grained. I've got some 'see' and 'do' attractions I want to add, but despite knowing central London I cannot decide which of the lowest level districts to add them to (or indeed easily find out if they are already there). I mean where exactly is the boundary between Soho/Chinatown/Leicester Square.

This reorg needs some thought though; so I don't lose the attraction info I'm temporarily adding it to this page; I'll move it into the right places when I work out where they are.

 * London Eye, Jubilee Gardens, tel 0870 500 06000 from within the UK, +44 870 500 0600 from outside the UK. The world's largest ferris wheel towers 450 feet/135 meters above the Thames, and the computer controlled capsules give spectacular views over central London. A 'flight' lasts 30 minutes. Open every day 9.30am-10pm. £11 (adult); £6 (child).

 * Buckingham Palace, The Mall, tel 020 7766 7300. The Queen's official residence in London, surrounded by St James and Green Parks (both open to the public) and Buckingham Palace Gardens (which are not open). The ceremony of Changing of the Guard takes place in the forecourt at 11.30pm every day in summer, alternate days in winter. The State Rooms are open July 31st to September 26th 9.30am-4.30pm. Free (exterior views and Changing of the Guard); £13 (admission to State Rooms - adult); £6 ( - child).

 * Queens Galley, Buckingham Palace Road, tel 020 7321 2233. Shows exhibits from the royal collection of art and treasures. Open every day 10am-5.30pm; last admission one hour earlier. £6 (adult); £3 (child).

 * Cabinet War Rooms, Clive Steps (at St James Park end of King Charles Street), tel 020 7930 6961. The preserved bomb-proof underground shelter which were the headquaters of the government during the second world war, kept exactly as they were when Churchill worked there. Open every day 9.30am-6pm; last admission one hour earlier. £7 (adult); free (child).

 * HMS Belfast, moored in the River Thames at Tooley Street, tel 020 7940 6300. This naval cruiser was built in 1938 and saw service in both Atlantic and Pacific theaters during the second world war and during the Korean war. All areas of the ship can be explored, from the bidge to the engine rooms. Open every day 10am-6pm; last admission one hour earlier. £7 (adult); free (child).

 * Houses of Parliament, Westminster, tel 020 7219 3000. Built in 1834, this houses both chambers of the British Parliament, the elected House of Commons and the partly appointed, partly hereditary House of Lords. The clock tower is known world-wide as Big Ben, although technically that is the name of the bell that tolls the hours. There are several different ways of visiting parliament:
 * Summer Opening Tour. This tour operates during the summer recess and is open to anyone. This is a 75 minute tour through the chambers of both houses, the mediaeval Westminster Hall and other parts of the complex. Book via web site or phone on 0870 906 3773 (within UK) / +44 870 906 3773 (outside UK). Available Jul-Aug M,Tu,F,Sa 9:15am-4:30pm; Jul-Aug W,Th 1:15pm-4:30pm; Sep-Oct M,F,Sa 9:15am-4:30pm; Sep-Oct Tu,W,Th 1:15pm-4:30pm. £7 (adults); £5 (senior citizens & children).
 * Line of Route Tour. This tour is available while the house is in session, and during recesses other than the summer recess. It is open to UK residents only, and must be arranged through your MP. Free.
 * Visit to the Strangers Gallery of the House of Commons. Open to all and available when the house is sitting, allows you to listen to the debates. Join the public queue and be prepared for a wait of 1-2 hours. Free.
 * Visit to the Strangers Gallery of the House of Lords. Open to all and available when the house is sitting, allows you to listen to the debates. Join the public queue; the queue is generally shorter than for the House of Commons. Free.

 * Kenwood House, Hampstead Lane, NW3, tel 020 8348 1268. Owned by English Heritage and situated on Hampstead Heath, this house was remodelled by Robert Adam and boasts great views and landscaped gardens. It is also the home of the Iveagh Bequest, a collection of work by (amongst others) Turner, Vermeer and Rembrandt. Open Apr-Oct M-Su 10am-5pm; Nov-Mar M-Su 10am-4pm. Free.

 * London Aquarium, County Hall, South Bank, SE1, tel 020 7967-8000. A display of over 30000 fish. Open M-Su 10am-6pm; last admission one hour earlier. £10 (adult); £6 (child).

 * London Zoo, Regents Park, NW1, tel 020 7722-3333. Open summer M-Su 10am-5.30pm; winter M-Su 10am-4pm. £13 (adult); £10 (child).

 * London Wetland Centre, Queen Elizabeth's Walk, Barnes, tel 020 8409-4400. On the site of set of disused reservoirs, the centre offers 105 acres of wetland habitat and visitors the chance to see rare and beautiful wetland wildlife just a stone's throw from central London. Open summer M-Su 9.30am-6pm; winter M-Su 9.30am-5pm; last admission one hour earlier. £7 (adult); £4 (child).

 * Madame Tussauds & London Planetarium, Marylebone Road, NW1, tel 0870 400 3000 from within the UK, +44 870 400 3000 from outside the UK. London's world-famous waxworks combined with half-hourly star shows in the planetarium (planetarium believed to have closed a few years ago?). Open M-F 9.30am-5.30pm, Sa-Su 9.30am-6pm. £11-£22 (adult); £6-£17 (child); prices depend on time of admission, the later the time the cheaper the price.

 * The Monument, Monument Street, EC3, tel 020 7626-2717. This 200 foot/60 meter column commemorates the Great Fire of London, which destroyed much of London in 1666 and broke out in nearby Pudding Lane. Reached by steps, the top gives views of London. Open M-Su 9.30am-5pm. £2 (adult); £1 (child).

 * St Paul's Cathedral, St Paul's Churchyard, EC4, tel 020 7246-8348. London's cathedral, situated in the heart of the original City of London, now London's main financial district. The cathedral was designed and built by Christopher Wren after the previous cathedral on the site was destroyed in the Great Fire of London. Attractions include three galleries at increasing altitude: the Whispering Gallery is an interior gallery giving views of the interior of the cathedral and famous for its whisper; the Stone Gallery and Golden Gallery are external galleries which give excellent views of London; access to the galleries is by staircase. Open M-Sa 8.30am-4pm (galleries open 9.30am). £7 (adult); £3 (child).

 * Shakespeares Globe, Bankside, SE1, tel 020 7902-1500. A fabulous reconstruction of the Globe Theatre of Shakespeare's time, with its open courtyard surrounded by circular tiered wood-and-thatch galleries. There are two ways of visiting:
 * If you can, take in a play here. There are matinee and evening performances on most days from Apr-Sep. Standing places in the courtyard are usually available and cost £5; seated (on not very comfortable benches) places in the galleries are harder to come by and cost £13-£29 depending on seat location.
 * The exhibition and theatre tour is available Apr-Sep M-Su 9am-noon; Oct-Mar M-Su 10am-5pm. £8 (adult); £6 (child).

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Talk:London/Oxford Street

I'm not sure if a street gets it's own article. OK, I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Anyone wanna object before I move this stuff into the London article? Or suggest a district where it belongs? thanks (WT-en) Majnoona

Oxford Street in London is a good example of many streets in many cities that do deserve their own article, in my opinion.... Think of Broadway or Fifth Avenue in NYC, or the Champs Elysee in Paris. Or even Oxford Street in Sydney.... = the well-known gay strip in that city. In these cases, the street has taken on an indentity of its own and represents an area, or even several areas unified by that particular thoroughfare. London's Oxford Street, for example, passes from the outskirts of Bloomsbury all the way down to the top of Mayfair and represents the main shopping street in London for the average punter.... So I think there is a case to have streets as articles! Perhaps we should discuss this one a little longer..... (WT-en) Pjamescowie

 * Well, let's think here. Haight Street in San Francisco is a name often applied to the whole San Francisco/Haight-Ashbury district. People say "He lives on Haight Street" when in fact the person's address may be on Page Street or Belvedere or whatever. similarly, San Francisco/Castro is often called "Castro Street".

 * If that's the case with Oxford Street -- people use the name of the street as shorthand for the name of the district -- that's pretty cool. I'd prefer to see a name for the district that didn't have "Street" in it, if possible, just to avoid confusion. But if not, that's OK.

 * If the article is just about the literal street, and the shops on it, I think that's too fine-grained for Wikitravel. See Project:What is an article? for details of about what we think the subjects of articles should be. (Note: not all articles on Wikitravel conform to this; we try to either fix those articles or fix the What is an article? page to adjust, as the case may be).

OK, I can buy it better if we just think of it as a district. Like in San Francisco we have "Castro Street" and "Market Street" but we think of them as The Castro (District) and Downtown. I imagine there is stuff (shops, restaurants etc) that you'd say are "On Oxford Street" that aren't _actually_ on Oxford Street. Alternately, we could put this on London and if it really gets that big, split it out then. That's what I'd suggest doing with Champs Elysee ansd Broadway as well. Thoughts? (WT-en) Majnoona

 * Lastly, let's consider moving this discussion to Project:What is an article?. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:07, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)

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Talk:London/Penge

Why would a tourist go to penge? It's just one of many suburbs. It's not even that close to Crystal Palace. (WT-en) Secretlondon 18:06, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * Well I dunno why a tourist would go there (I'm not even sure where it is), but we like to include even out-of-the-way destinations-- not all travellers are tourists! Maybe someone would end up there for business or to visit family or they just got lost! Anyway, we're not selective about places-- if it exisits, we want to know about it! (WT-en) Majnoona 18:43, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * So every district of London is fine? Okay - but Penge really is just residential. (WT-en) Caroline 18:59, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * Hey-- thanks for working on London and Berlin! You might want to look over Project:What is an article?. Basically, the rule of thumb is that if you can eat and sleep there, then it's a "destination." So if there are hotels or B&Bs or guesthouses in this residential area, then someone's figured out that people visit for whatever reason (weddings? moving there?). If there really isn't _anything_, then maybe it could be mentioned in the "Get out" section of the next closest town and just state that it's residential. Thanks! (WT-en) Majnoona 21:48, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

Vote for deletion

 * Delete/merge with South East London. --(WT-en) Wandering 20:01, 18 January 2008 (EST)
 * I'd recommend merge/redirects for these London neighborhoods—even if a neighborhood is split across districts, you can always redirect to City --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:14, 18 January 2008 (EST)
 * I agree with Peter, might as well redirect since someone might search for it. (WT-en) Pashley 02:15, 20 January 2008 (EST)
 * Merged and re-directed. 62.49.204.235 16:29, 19 February 2008 (EST)

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Talk:London/Regent Street

Do we really need a separate district for this? (WT-en) Jpatokal 09:15, 4 July 2006 (EDT)

 * I agree: this is getting a bit too fine-grained. Likewise with Oxford Street (the instance of street-as-district that probably started the slide down this slippery slope).  Granted there's a lot to be found in each of these streets, but all three can reasonably be folded into London/Mayfair. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 10:02, 4 July 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:London/Richmond-on-Thames

London/Richmond-on-Thames
Not linked to from anywhere, has no content, was created by an extlink spammer. ~ 61.91.191.4 23:14, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Delete - London is already districted, if a new one needs to be created the user should discuss on the talk page... is that area already covered within one of the current districts? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 00:36, 31 March 2007 (EDT)

 * Keep. Is a valid town/district of London, just need some content... London/South West has an entry for an uncreated London/Richmond, which is the same thing. -- (WT-en) DanielC 16:13, 18 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep. Daniel's argument convinces me.  Should the London/South West article be modified to point to this one? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:51, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:London/Soho

Did I do this right? It's a district like San Francisco/Tenderloin right? (WT-en) Majnoona

 * Yes, you did! -- (WT-en) Evan 07:45, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)

Red light district?
Nothing at all about how Soho is probably the UK's biggest red light district? Not to mention the shere abundance of sex shops?

 * probably because these days it isn't and there are not many. Even so, this is all now mentioned in the article. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:50, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Itinerary
This article is screaming for a walking tour. If there are any suggestions, I'd be happy to help with the prose & map! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:16, 6 January 2010 (EST)

 * It is yes but the complete lack of formal sights is a concern. A walking itinerary of Soho would mostly involve shopping, eating, drinking and (a lot of) people watching I think. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:48, 6 January 2010 (EST)

Geo coordinates
I just bumped this guide down to usable as it lacks geo coordinates for its listings. We should also ask whether a dynamic map wouldn't make sense. Hobbitschuster (talk) 01:38, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

 * Where in City guide status do you find a requirement for geo for listings? Are addresses sufficient? Also, the static map could be updated if someone wants to do that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:30, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

 * Reverted per this and my comments on Talk:London/Leicester Square. I am all for changing the rules, but it has to be done the right way. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:31, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:London/South

The transport isn't actually as bad - I'm trying to work out how best to describe it. Yes there are less tube stations - but a tourist could still get to everywhere they would want by tube, pretty much.

The key tourist areas in South London are Bankside, South Bank, Brixton, Wimbledon, Kew. They are all on the tube. Even Lewisham (although not exactly a tourist attraction) is on the DLR.

Also as a local I can assure you we use buses rather than trains - trains are just too infrequent. (WT-en) Secretlondon 18:05, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * I'd say Greenwich is a more significant inward tourist destination than any of those you quote above, and it isn't on the tube. However I do take your point, I was perhaps thinking too much of South London places like Croyden or Streatham which are of less interest to visitors. On the other I didn't want readers thinking they could just hop on a tube the way they can inside the circle line. If you can find a better way to express that, please do go ahead and plunge forward.

 * PS. I've been known to use buses in South London too. They may be more frequent but they don't half seem to take a long time to get there. -- (WT-en) Chris j wood 19:16, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * Yes it is - North Greenwich tube - although people would be better getting to Greenwich mainline station for most attractions. (WT-en) Caroline 19:45, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

Eat and Drink help
If anyone has any familiarity with these listings, please help plunge forward and help put things into categories which could help the reader (5-9 listings per category as a rule). If folks were to delete the listings which seem to be rather telephone-book like, that'd be fine with me.(WT-en) Zepppep 12:25, 18 December 2009 (EST)

Selsdon Park Hotel & Golf Club
, I noticed the Principal Hayley hotel Selsdon Park Hotel & Golf Club is not listed, can we have it listed? Send me a message if you require any details not public on the website VerbInteractive (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

To save time here is the posting with only factual info (I can't post the listing as I represent the company) VerbInteractive (talk) 14:41, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

 * Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:40, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

 * Here is a suggested description: A 4-star hotel and event venue in Selsdon offering 200 en suite bedrooms, 23 event suites, and an 18-hole championship golf course. Built in the 19th century, Selsdon Park is a historic country mansion.VerbInteractive (talk) 13:40, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

Dallas of the South
Maybe I'm simply ignorant as a recently arrived London resident, but is there any source for "Dallas of the South" for Croydon? —The preceding comment was added by JackHahne (talk • contribs)
 * Sounds like nonsense, which I will remove. Thank you for bringing this up, and if you have any other improvements to make to the article, I'm sure your perspective as a new resident would be valuable.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:London/South Bank

I'm sorry I created a Bankside article without checking the contents of this one as there is duplication. They are seen to be separate areas but maybe not for a tourist.(WT-en) Caroline 20:30, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

 * No problem, just add it to Project:Votes for deletion... thanks! (WT-en) Majnoona 21:55, 19 Jul 2004 (EDT)

Drink- The George in Borough - will get the details. (WT-en) Caroline 06:19, 22 Jul 2004 (EDT)

From Talk:LOndon/Bankside: So.. what to add:

(WT-en) Caroline 06:51, 22 Jul 2004 (EDT)
 * Borough market (fri and sat for retail)
 * Vinopolis? But is is pricey...
 * The Golden Hinde? - but it's just a replica sitting on the river
 * The Jerwood Space is another industrial conversion into an art gallery. However the cafe is nice.
 * Fish! is on the tourist trail - but I imagine it is pricey. I've certainly never been in there.
 * The Millenium Bridge? Its just a modern footbridge, and it doesn't even wobble anymore. However it is a connection between Tate Modern and St Pauls.

lol I can't believe someone suggested Pizza Express as the only restaurant on the South Bank.

I've expanded the South Bank Center section, but I think it needs splitting up. The NFT (now BFI Southbank) and the NT are worthy of their own sections. (WT-en) EAi 09:37, 20 February 2008 (EST)

Pubs and Restaurants
The bland lists below were taken from London/Southwark-Lewisham. Most are in Shad Thames which is covered by this article. If anyone fancies the job of turning some of these into useful listings with contact details and a description, please go ahead and insert into this article. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:45, 17 December 2009 (EST)

Restaurants
There are numerous quality restaurants in the Shad Thames area, which is on the river Thames next to Tower Bridge. A few places are listed, as being worth a visit. The area is dominated by Conran restaurants which are normally good quality but some people might feel they are overpriced.

 * American.

 * British.

 * British.

 * French.

 * Indian.

 * Indian.

 * Italian.

 * Italian.

 * Italian.

 * British.

 * French.

 * Italian.

Pubs/bars

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 * <drink name="River Bar." alt="" address="" directions="Shad Thames" phone="" email="" fax="" url="" hours="" price="">

 * <drink name="The Garrison" alt="" address="Bermondsey Street" directions="" phone="" email="" fax="" url="" hours="" price="">

 * <drink name="The Woolsack" alt="" address="Bermondsey Street" directions="" phone="" email="" fax="" url="" hours="" price="">

 * <drink name="Thai Pub" alt="" address="Crucifix Lane" directions="" phone="" email="" fax="" url="" hours="" price="">

Where is "The London Eye" located - at Lambeth or South Bank?
As of now it appears as a listing in both of those articles. As for as I understand though, it should only appear in the Lambeth article. Please correct me if I'm wrong. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 04:28, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I would say the opposite actually. It should appear in the South Bank article. It is in the borough of Lambeth, but that is not the same as our Lambeth district article. From Lambeth's Understand section: "This destination covers most of the borough of Lambeth, except for a chunk around Waterloo station that is covered under South Bank. " The South Bank article covers parts of the boroughs of Lambeth and Southwark (as indeed the area known as the South Bank does in real life). --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:16, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * On a related theme, the map on our Lambeth article has territory overlapped with South Bank. Over on Commons, someone had 'fixed' your original version of the map, which was correct, and replaced it with a map which showed the borough of Lambeth rather than the WV district. I reverted to your earlier version, ויקיג'אנקי, and assume it will update within a couple of hours. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying that. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 12:52, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I have removed The London Eye listing from the Lambeth article. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 12:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Nice one ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:London/South Kensington-Chelsea

Touting troubadours
I noticed the little Troubadour complex had five listings here... Is it worth combining them and listing them all under one section (perhaps "do"), or should we just nuke the tout? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:04, 7 December 2009 (EST)

Hotel and restaurant pictures
This site's policy is that hotels should be depicted in our articles only when they are attractions themselves. I'd say that pictures of the following hotels are not particularly interesting to look at and should be removed from the article: Marriott London Kensington (with touty filename), Park Tower Knightsbridge (in other words, all but the Courtfield, which is a fairly pretty building).

The same policy more or less obtains for restaurants, and I don't feel either of the restaurant photos (Babylon and Tom Aikens Restaurant) are particularly interesting to look at, so I'd support deleting both of those thumbnails, too.

Your thoughts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Definitely agree on the restaurants and the Marriott, though believe it or not the Park Tower is an iconic London hotel. I'll keep that and delete the others. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

 * Cool, and thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:05, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Hyde Park Hotel
Grand old hotels#Western Europe has a listing, which apparently should point to here:

According to its web page it is at "66 Knightsbridge, SW1X 7LA London". As I don't know the hotel, nor the neighbourhood, I hesitate to add it myself.

–LPfi (talk) 09:40, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

 * I added it anyway, move it if it doesn't belong, and add info if you can. –LPfi (talk) 09:45, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:London/South West

Why was the article on roehampton redirected to here? It was a most informative guide. And here there is no information about it at all!

 * Indeed — this article still links to it, but that just loops back now. Here is the old version. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:06, 24 February 2008 (EST)

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Talk:London/St James's

Great start! We leave for England in 5 days so it's good reading! (WT-en) Majnoona 22:14, 8 Feb 2004 (EST)

St. James's Hotel And Club
(WT-en) Travelboy There was a problem with Mozilla adding a new hotel - St. James’s Hotel And Club. It reflected an error saying not posted, I posted again to find it had actually been posted. I've tried to delete it, but it says its being edited by someone else. I'd appreciate it if number 24 could be deleted to avoid unintentional spam.

Thanks Wiki Editor —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Travelboy (talk • contribs)

 * I've fixed it now. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 17:29, 6 December 2008 (EST)

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Talk:London/Tooting

Tooting was originally a French colony?!
The article says originally a French colony. This is either a major piece of British history that has completely passed me by; or a rather odd use of the word colony; or wrong. Unfortunately the author of this is anonymous; posting this in the hope they or someone else can elaborate. In the meantime I havn't included the claim in the mos version of this article. -- (WT-en) Chris j wood 19:54, 5 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Does Tooting deserve an article
I'm far from sure that Tooting has enough in the way of stuff for visitors to justify an article. I note that the original anonymous contributor said nothing of interest to a visitor; and it isn't in our goals to list all the (hundreds?) of suburbs of London. I've added in the standard heading; my suggestion is leave this for (say) a month and see if the original contributor or someone else wants to fill in more visitor relevant detail (if there is any); if not we should unlink and delete. -- (WT-en) Chris j wood 20:17, 5 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Wandsworth security?
Hi there!

I'll stay in London Nov. - March and found an accomodation either in Tooting or Wandsworth. How about security there? --88.69.165.71 11:56, 13 August 2009 (EDT)

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Talk:London/Wandsworth

This London/Wandsworth article is all about Tooting and is best moved to and merged with London/Tooting. - (WT-en) Huttite 09:42, 30 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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Talk:London/Wembley

vfd discussion
Archived from the Project:Votes for deletion page:

Article about a football (soccer) stadium. Not a destination. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 19:54, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Delete - (WT-en) Sapphire 21:31, 15 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep as a redirect page. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 20:51, 27 October 2006 (EDT)

 * Delete, an article about Wembley Stadium is not need for Wikivoyage. --(WT-en) Terence Ong 05:53, 16 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Delete nuh-nuh, naah, naah. hey, hey, heyy. Goood bye yie. (WT-en) OldPine 19:36, 17 October 2006 (EDT) Redirect to Wembley (and improve the Wembley article. (WT-en) OldPine 06:55, 30 October 2006 (EST)

 * Retain - Doesn't the stadium count as a desitnation in its own right, seeing as its size and importance are very big so far as attractions go? If there's a separate article about Disneyland, why not Wembley? Where exactly are we proposing to move the information too anyway? The article about London? 88.105.47.184 16:06, 19 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Take a close look at Project:What is an article?, we have never had a football stadium article and I am pretty sure it will not happen this time. That said, there are places where this information belongs and we would hope you would help with that. Also, if you don't like the policy about stadium's you would be welcomed to the talk page for what is an article? and open a discussion. The information in the article would likely go in the Wembley article (which has not been created yet). You could start that article and put all the information there and then link to it from various places including London. Hope this helps. One other thing... although not necessary, it would be good if you create an account and then it would be easy to communicate directly and put information on your talk page. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 07:17, 20 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Hey there. Apologies about the username, it was actually myself commenting, but I'd forgotten to sign in. I see where you're coming from, and moving the article to Wembley would be fine and is something we can do in the next couple of days if no-one else expresses an opion I suppose. Cheers. (WT-en) Victor Greenstreet 16:12, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

 * Update: Article merged and redirected to Wembley. (WT-en) Victor Greenstreet 15:57, 23 October 2006 (EDT)

 * Redirect to Wembley. redirects are cheap and search engines love them. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 09:24, 28 October 2006 (EDT)
 * Redirect to Wembley. -- (WT-en) Ryan 21:58, 28 October 2006 (EDT)
 * I'm not happy with this solution. The Wembley article is an outlier that appears not to fit into the well-developed London district structure.  Why should this not be subsumed in something that fits the structure and already exists? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:39, 29 October 2006 (EST)
 * I'm not against your suggestion and agree that would be a good solution. What do you have in mind specifically? Is there a district where it fits? -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 07:15, 30 October 2006 (EST)
 * There is a consensus to redirect apparently, the argument now is just where to redirect to and whether to merge, so I'm archiving and the discussion can continue on the talk page. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:26, 31 October 2006 (EST)

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Talk:London/West

I changed the links pointing to London (west) areas to point to London/Area areas because the form is more consistent to that of other London pages. -- (WT-en) Huttite 09:21, 30 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Brentford
A separate article on Brentford has been sitting around for quite awhile now. Don't know if anything else in that article should be merged into this one but it really should be redirected to London/West.

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The last two edits were both by me, for some reason it appeared I was logged in when I wasn't. (WT-en) sheridan 17:14, 3 Jan 2005 (EST)

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Talk:London/Westminster

If Westminster is a separate city, shouldn't it be Westminster rather than London/Westminster? Of course, this more a matter of principle. How would we handle Hollywood? -- (WT-en) Nils 10:01, 16 Apr 2004 (EDT)
 * Westminster is one of the burroughs of greater london. Actually Soho is actually within the City of Westminter.  -- (WT-en) Mark 11:21, 16 Apr 2004 (EDT)
 * Okay, changed the article accordingly. -- (WT-en) Nils 12:07, 16 Apr 2004 (EDT)

Alternative banner for this article?
I created a new alternative banner for this article (I initially created it first and foremost so that it would be used at the top of the parallel article in the Hebrew edition of Wikivoyage, yet I later decided to also suggest that the English Wikivoyage community would consider using it here as well). So, which banner do you prefer having at the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 05:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * New proposed banner is more relevant to Westminster. I like the aesthetics of the original, but would (with some regret) agree to change to the proposed one. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:24, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * The current banner is commendably innovative, but the new banner is more beautiful and represents the neighborhood better. I agree with Andrewssi2. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:30, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I love the current banner. I love the innovation and simplicity of it, I love the fact it shows the famous London rooftops and the Union Flag is a nice touch to show Westminster as the seat of government. It is more beautiful to my eyes than the new one. This new banner is a poorer quality photograph from what I can see and is taken from a strange angle which makes it very jumbled and not immediately obvious what it is depicting.

 * I am not opposed to replacing the current banner on principle, and a Houses of Parliament banner is a good idea (more relevant to Westminster as you've all rightly said), but this particular one is a very poor alternative. Sorry, I just can't get behind it. Regards, --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I prefer the new one - it says "Westminster" more to me than the present one. Maybe the present one could be used for a UK travel topic. AlasdairW (talk) 20:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

 * NeutralSyced (talk) 07:32, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

 * I like the current banner. Anything to get away from the stifling sameness of our city banners. Powers (talk) 23:45, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm neutral on this one. As someone who's only ever spent three days in London, I immediately recognized the new banner as Westminster. The current one I don't get the association at all. The new banner is very busy though and I think the current one is a better background for putting text on. -Shaundd (talk) 04:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Visits to Palace of Westminster
London/Westminster does not seem to be in sync with http://www.parliament.uk/visiting/visiting-and-tours/ --Vadp (talk) 15:49, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Please plunge forward and correct as appropriate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:08, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Feature for May 2023?
Westminster was suggested at Wikivoyage talk:Destination of the month candidates to feature in May 2023. Is this article good enough to promote to guide level? Which improvements are needed? /Yvwv (talk) 17:29, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:London/Wimbledon

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Listings
A note to contributors (most of whom are anonymous). Please see Project:Goals and non-goals, specifically number 7 on the non-goals. Wikivoyage needs to offer a select list of the best places--not a list of every place. (WT-en) OldPine 19:39, 16 August 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:London on a budget

So, this has the content of a good itinerary, but I'm a little worried about that name which is probably a Lonely Planet trademark -- any other ideas? (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:04, 18 August 2006 (EDT)
 * A day in London on a budget? P.S.  please do follow the itinerary template with modifications as needed. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 11:07, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

The article says that London has more visitor attractions than any other city in the world. Isn't that a bit of an unneccessary exxageration? (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 06:59, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

 * Anyone mind if ditched the hotel listings? I see a spam target coming up. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:28, 16 February 2010 (EST)

 * Please do. This article contains absolutely no information about seeing London on a budget - its sole piece of advice being to stay in a hostel - which verges on the obvious for any budget traveller.  --(WT-en) inas 17:30, 16 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Lone Pine Koala Sanctuary

Merge
I don't think this meets article criteria, it should be listed in the "See" or "Get out" section of Brisbane. Any objections? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 19:51, 30 March 2007 (EDT)
 * If you can't stay there, then merge it. -- (WT-en) Tim 19:54, 30 March 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Long Beach

Feedback
Great start! (WT-en) Majnoona

I dont think Long Beach warrents sub pages or districts... I'm going to remove those links but we can split stuff up later if it really seems to need it...(WT-en) Majnoona 19:39, 10 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * I've re-integrated the content from the district articles back into the main article and converted the district pages to redirects. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:29, 22 February 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Long Beach/Naples Island

I think this is more of a 'hood thn a district... I'm going to move the content back into the main artile and redirect this page... (WT-en) Majnoona 19:41, 10 Jan 2006 (EST)

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Talk:Long Beach Island

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Comments
Long Beach Island is not a city, but a region within Ocean County. Some of the info here needs to be broken up and reorganized among individual cities. (WT-en) gamweb 17:57, 10 August 2008 (EDT)
 * That has been fixed. I am going to work on wikifying it a bit because it looks kind of messy now. I dont think it really needs to be broken down by borough because for tourist purposes, it is all the same place more or less. Although, you could argue there are three regions--north, central, and south.--(WT-en) TrekkingTurtle 13:31, 21 August 2009 (EDT)

Cleanup
I am going to cleanup this article to reflect the island 100% and make it look like a proper Wikivoyage article. (WT-en) TrekkingTurtle 14:43, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

Rental listings
There seems to be no prior consensus on allowing rental listings. Should they be commented out for now? JsfasdF252 (talk) 20:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The relevant policy here is WV:APT. I'd gladly delete'em all "realty" and "realtor" listings. But I'm famously very trigger-happy in this context, and am running ahead of consensus. Let's listen to every opinion first. Ibaman (talk) 20:31, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Long Island

"Eat," "Do," listings, etc.
It seems to me that at this level of regionality, there should be no specific listings of restaurants at all. I'm unsure about amusement parks, and I think that some selected museums might be OK to list. The biggest shopping malls might be reasonable to list, because that's so much of what Long Island is. But the thing is, there are articles about Nassau and Suffolk Counties, so if we list so much stuff here, what's the point of having those articles? And then, what about articles about towns (e.g., shouldn't Smithhaven Mall be covered in an article about Smithtown, though it seems no-one has yet started such an article)? Let's try to reach a consensus on just what should be listed in this article. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:18, 10 November 2011 (EST)

Movetocity again
No-one has done anything about this since Nov, 2011, apparently. If no-one does anything soon, I will move all the specific listings out of this article, either to already-existing city articles or, if all else fails, to this page. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:56, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

 * I know it’s been five years, but you don’t have to do that. JTZegers (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

 * Would you like to do it? See if there are already duplicate listings in the relevant city articles and if not, please move them. I agree that I have better things to do with my time. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I've done this to the best of my ability. It would be helpful 9f someone familiar with the area could take a look to see if I have moved listingsvto the correct places. I think that that next time someone starts dropped listings into this article, they should just be deleted. I won't be cleaning this up again. Ground Zero (talk) 14:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

More village articles?
I said the same thing on the Nassau County discussion, and I’m trying not to troll anyone, but do you think there should be articles just for the villages? Obviously, I wouldn’t just jump in the water and swim by making none article for every village, but they are all different, and I think it would help travelers a lot. Let me know, in my talk page or here, whatever works for you. JTZegers (talk) 16:56, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I think the issue here is that region articles should not have listings for museums and restaurants. The detailed information should be at the city/town level. The region article should describe in paragraph firm what to see and do, and direct the reader to the city/town article for the details. As far as the Eat section, if it is used in a region article (and it doesn't have to be), ìt should tell the reader what the region's specialties are.
 * As far as village articles go, if you have enough information on a village to make an article worthwhile -- a few things to see and do, pladesvto wat and sleep -- then go to it. What doesn't help the reader, though, is an article that just says that the village exists and provides no practical travel information. Sometimes we get excited new contributors who create a bunch of skeleton articles, then leave Wikivoyage before building any of them out. We try to discourage that. Ground Zero (talk) 20:29, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In New York State, every village is in a town (sometimes divided between two or more towns; not sure if there are any such on Long Island). If a village does not warrant its own article, I recommend placing the village's listings in the town's article. Just make sure that the address field includes the village name. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 01:16, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I know a bit about Long Island. My dad grew up there. I've been there a lot.

Long Island is mainly divided into "hamlets", which in New York State are smaller towns within parts of the town. So if you are in a place like Wantagh, the government is controlled by the town of Hempstead, not by the village itself. Another great example is with Montauk, which is really controlled by East Hampton.

Furthermore, Long Island isn't just Nassau and Suffolk counties, it's also Queens and Brooklyn.--JTZegers (talk) 16:26, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

 * I apply my recommendation about villages to hamlets as well. You are correct, of course, that Brooklyn and Queens are geographically on Long Island, but they are politically (and some would say "culturally") part of New York City, and should be treated as such by any travel guide. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 20:45, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

 * Indeed. Geographically, Queens and Brooklyn are part of Long Island, but in almost every other way, they are not, and they are not considered as such in Wikivoyage's breadcrumb navigation, but instead, part of New York City. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:53, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

"The city's West End"
From the article:

"The city's West End has the greatest concentration of bars and is entirely walkable, though it's a bit of a hike from the train station without a taxi or bus ride."

What city? If you're talking about New York City: (a) it's not part of Long Island; (b) the city (Manhattan) has a West Side; West End is an avenue and I can't think of any bars on it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

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Deserving of its own article?
See the Wikipedia article. A town of 202 that seceded from Portland. Given the creator's history of questionable new articles I've created a redirect, but if someone wants to make an actual article feel free. -- (WT-en) Ryan 13:07, 13 July 2006 (EDT)

I think it does if it has that many people. 169.244.99.10 11:33, 14 July 2006 (EDT)

Long Island (Maine)

 * Delete. Questionable whether this is a valid article, and VFD'd by its creator. Keep. User:(WT-en) Xltel has worked some magic. -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:42, 14 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Delete. -- (WT-en) Colin 14:49, 14 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep. Redirect to Cumberland County. (WT-en) Majnoona 21:54, 14 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep. Redirect to Cumberland County (Maine) or to Maine ~ 125.24.4.216 06:29, 15 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep. It probably should be listed on Down East, Maine and then add Frenchboro as the city destination too. -- (WT-en) Huttite 02:42, 28 July 2006 (EDT) an appropriate regional article page given in the IsIn list. And this discussion should move to the talk page -- (WT-en) Huttite 22:37, 29 July 2006 (EDT)
 * The consensus to keep this one seems pretty clear by now. Discussion being moved. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 13:16, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Long March

I figured it was worth starting this, even though I do not know enough to do it well. Contributions solicited. (WT-en) Pashley 03:35, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

 * Never heard of it, but looks interesting! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 13:23, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

routes and maps
We need a free/open-source version of any routes and maps which we can include in the article instead of linking to them from external sources. Otherwise, as soon as the external website changes its content in any way, the links potentially break. The article also has to be usable if printed (or copied to a memory card) for use offline by travellers. K7L (talk) 02:05, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Comments
The Digital Sorceress:: I just did a quick, off-the-top-of-my-head page to fill in a bit of information since nothing was listed. I hope someone finds this useful and/or updates it to make it a better listing.

The Digital Sorceress:: Posted the original page without an account... I signed up for an account and have updated the page a bit more with some links to appropriate sites, better formatting, and more information. I'll be the first to admit that most of my article is based on anecdotal information, but I have lived here quite a while, so think I gave it a good start. Longmeadow's town web site actually contains a lot of good reference materials for town history, activities, and government. Personally, I have found their hosting of PDF versions of the town zoning and bylaws to be of particular use when attempting to understand the legal requirements for various home improvement projects.
 * Thanks for your contributions. Our goal here is to provide information for travellers, not residents, as we are a travel guide. It's also not enough for us to just reference the site as we want the material to be digested and listed here so that folks can print out our guide and have the information even when a computer is not available to them. (WT-en) OldPine 06:57, 18 September 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Long Valley

I'd like to redirect this to the page for Washington Township in Morris County, NJ. But it keeps saying I'm not allowed. Long Valley is the common name for this town, mostly because there is a washington township in Warren County, NJ, just few miles away. I'm not even sure what to properly call each of those towns on the disambiguation page for washington (WT-en) Kire1975 04:37, 20 July 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Longyearbyen

Lung yer bins
So my Norwegian is pretty cræppy, but Longyearbyen is definitely not pronounced "long year bye-n" as if it were English, and "Lungyerbin" is how my ears hear it. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:52, 21 September 2007 (EDT)

When I was there I heard people saying it like 'long-year-byin', although many Norwegians miss out the 'y', making 'long-year-bin', but I've never heard the 'lung' part. Is a pronunciation guide really necessary here? Since the name was derived from English anyway, Norwegians understand the common English pronunciation just fine. (WT-en) Jamezcd 10:19, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

 * Re: long vs lung, I think I know what you mean, but it's definitely not an American-style lawng. And maybe it's just me, but I find Norwegian pronunciations really unintuitive (cf. Geilo, pron. "yay-loo"), so pronunciation keys are quite handy... (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:02, 12 May 2008 (EDT)

Trouble with PDF conversion
This page converts to readable PDF file and downloads normally. However, if I make any annotation to downloaded file (e.g., highlight word or phrase), am unable to (re)save it...generates Adobe Reader error message. Is only article I've found with this issue. Regrets, cannot figure out how to report problem through Wikimedia channels. Hennejohn (talk) 19:36, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

 * PS: Am to visit town in August and try to obtain "authoritative" pronunciation... :.)

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Talk:Loop Art Tour

Star nomination
It may be presumptuous to nominate an article having just written it, but hey, I've always wanted to! I think this meets all the criteria, but I would of course welcome criticism. On which note I have to observe, if the saying "everyone's a critic" has any truth, then everyone has been rather quiet lately on this page ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 05:34, 15 December 2007 (EST)
 * Support. We just don't have enough star itineraries. And this is one heck of a guide! There is just one, teensy, minor problem: nothing links here. How are people going to find this absolutely magnificent article? (WT-en) PerryPlanet 11:51, 15 December 2007 (EST)
 * Good point. We'll work mentions into the main Chicago article and the Chicago/Loop article. Support. He's got this topic nailed down, including plenty that I didn't know (for all of the time I spent working down there), and a clear, easy route to enjoy it. I'd suggest Freeform as a lead photo, though, given its acclaimed status within the article and an easier form to grasp (compared to the more jumbled Town-Ho). (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 15:25, 15 December 2007 (EST)
 * I'm tempted to leave the Town-Ho up at the top, both for egotistical reasons (the photo bears a strong personal touch, whereas I've seen others take a similar photo of Freeform), and because I like the statement it makes to put the most controversial work in the tour at the top. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 03:39, 17 December 2007 (EST)

Unusual English usage
"But the reactionary grumps have bit their tongues (after having removed their foots from their mouths)"

Is this intentional? (WT-en) Pbsouthwood 02:45, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Yep—were you referring to the "foots"? The problem is that each reactionary grump only put one foot in, that is, one foot per mouth. I wouldn't want to lay upon any of them the slander of putting both feet into his/her mouth. I think I'm right on this grammatical point, but not positive ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 02:50, 23 October 2009 (EDT)
 * I'd say you're wrong. (WT-en) Pashley 03:05, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

 * Hmm, after consulting the hokey pokey I'm even less sure: You (plural) put your right foot in... --(WT-en) Peter Talk 03:15, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

Update (Large Upright Internal/External Form)
I just wanted to warn the authors of this guide that the artwork "Large Upright Internal/External Form" by Henry Moore has been sold in 2016 (source http://chicagoist.com/2017/03/01/preservation_chicago_names_7_most_e.php#photo-1) and is no-more on location.

Since this is a great itinerary and this piece of art is a central part of it (including a quote and a photo), maybe replace it with some recent acquisition?

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Talk:Lopburi

TAT Listings
Moved the TAT listings from the Province page to Talk:Lopburi/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 00:42, 3 February 2010 (EST)

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