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Talk:Bermuda

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Bermuda/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Removed French Wikivoyage Link
The French Wikivoyage link was to a place called Bermudes which I'm quite prepared to believe is the French name for Bermuda. But the intro para of the Bermudes article stated that Bermudes is in the Caribbean, which places it at least 1000 miles away from Bermuda which is in the North Atlantic. I will refer this to the user who added the french link for clarification; in the meantime I've removed the link as it is misleading. -- (WT-en) Chris j wood 08:15, 4 Sep 2004 (EDT)

 * It's not misleading; it's pragmatic. Putting Bermuda (or Bermudes) in the same geographic bucket with Jamaica and Haiti and Cuba and so on makes more sense than putting it in the same bucket with the Azores and Faroe Islands, or the barrier islands of North Carolina.  It's "Caribbean" like Iceland is "European" or the Philippines are "Asian". - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 17:34, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Cities!
Certainly Hamilton is a city by most definitions (although a very small one of course). It has a cathedral (Anglican I seem to recall) which is one of the basis for older UK cities (notwithstanding the new cities eg Milton Keynes) and is the capital. As to St George's, I suspect that is only a town. In the years I lived there I never saw the name City of St. George! Somerset definately is a town (a hamlet perhaps in any other mainland country as it whizzes by in about 10 seconds when you are roaring down Middle Road at the speed limit (approx 50 km/hr). In the same way I would never include Flatts in there or the Dockyards.

84.112.104.223 10:25, 9 April 2006 (EDT)Candorwien

 * There are many people who use the word "city" in its vernacular generic sense of "a place where lots of people live together with a bunch of buildings all clustered within a small geographic area". (If you need a cathedral, there must be a profound lack of "cities" in heathen lands.) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 17:34, 5 June 2006 (EDT)

Climate
"As a result drinking water is collected on the roofs of all buildings (by law), and in special catchment areas. "

Perhaps a much clearer explanation would be, "As a result, drinking water is collected from the roofs of all buildings (by law), and in special catchment areas, and stored in tanks under the ground for each home or premesis."

84.112.104.223 10:30, 9 April 2006 (EDT)Candorwien

St. George vs. St. George's

 * The official tourism site at http://www.bermudatourism.com uses "Town of St. George" for the town and "St. George's parish" when referring to the parish . (WT-en) OldPine 09:46, 26 August 2006 (EDT)

Bermudians refer to BOTH the town and the parish as St George's (apostrophe S). Former Bermuda resident.

 * Duly noted. Ibaman (talk) 19:43, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Parishes
Any thoughts on setting up the nine Parishes of Bermuda with small city outlines? Right now we have Bermuda and the "cities" of Hamilton and St. George. Several of the Parishes (that don't even have one of the two cities in them) have pretty strong article potential... Southampton, Sandys, Hamilton Parish... and others have lodging, dining, beaches or at least some attraction as noted under "Parishes" in the Bermuda article. I think perhaps a single outline-type listing under "cities" combining the parish list with the city list would allow direct access to the Hamilton and St. George articles from the Bermuda article page. Thoughts? (rephrased from original comment) (WT-en) OldPine 07:40, 27 August 2006 (EDT)

As someone who has visited Bermuda a lot, I think breaking up the Cities section into Parishes instead makes a lot more sense from a traveler's perspective, and I think it would then make sense to include sights on those Parish pages instead of making them pages unto themselves For example, I don't feel that it makes sense for Horseshoe Bay, despite its tourist draw, to be its own page, but the beach and surrounding attractions would make a lot more sense to list under the Southampton Parish. Allegro8032 (talk) July 2017
 * If no one has objections I will go ahead and reorganise all articles into parishes. --Traveler100 (talk) 07:17, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Bermuda Triangle
Like it or not, the first thing a lot of people will think of when you use the name "Bermuda" with them is "the Bermuda Triangle". That being the case, isn't it best to briefly state what and where it is in the "Understand" section? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:38, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Boundaries
The boundary between Smith's Parish and Devonshire Parish is different on Open Maps and Google Maps. Any idea which is correct? Reason for asking is that depending where the line is will define which article two restaurants (Flame and Specialty Inn) should be in. --Traveler100 (talk) 15:56, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There's not much between them. It seems that Google Maps puts Speciality Inn in Smith's Parish, but OpenStreetMap puts Speciality Inn in the Devonshire Parish. On Speciality Inn's website, they include "Smith's" (as in "Smith's Parish") in their address. This seems to imply that Google Maps is right. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 17:14, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I looked at the website for the Bermuda Department of Land Valuation and it seems neither map service is right. Flame is listed in Devonshire Parish according to Land Valuation and Specialty Inn is in Smiths. It doesn't help that their own map moves the boundary between the two parishes around depending on the zoom level. I'll move Flame over to Devonshire so it's in the right parish. -Shaundd (talk) 23:32, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for investigating. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:46, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Guide status?
As SelfieCity and T100 and I have been toiling with this region and its parishes for the last days (big thanks and hoorahs for this teamwork \o/), it seems that by now all the parishes have been upgraded to Usable, and the region is getting closer to deserve upgrade to Guide, if not already so. Let's talk about this upgrade. Ibaman (talk) 16:55, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Almost there, my main concern is the low number of sleep and eat listings in Saint George's considering it size. See section of this article could also be expanded and improved. --Traveler100 (talk) 16:59, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I think some work still needs to go into Devonshire Parish, and maybe Smith's Parish and Paget Parish. But most of the articles could still do with more listings, if possible. But we've definitely made a lot of progress, especially today. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 17:10, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I've also improved the "go next" sections of each article so you can easily get to the other parish articles according to direction. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 18:26, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Update static map?
Do we want to update the static map so it's more like a region map that shows the parishes? If we do, let me know and I can work on it. I'll probably remove the minor roads as part of it -- I think all the small roads are not really useful on the static map (no road names) and they're better handled by the dynamic map. -Shaundd (talk) 06:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * There is a parish map at Commons. --Traveler100 (talk) 06:48, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, the parishes are on OSM too, so creating dynamic map with the regions should be trivial (I already updated WD the other day)... -- andree.sk (talk) 07:10, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Should look at the dynamic map, maybe also with Regionlist. Tried what I though was syntax but not seeing the shapes

 * I only added most of the osm links today (though), so it should work tomorrow or so.-- andree.sk (talk) 14:26, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Ok, but the OSM boundaries are off slightly as noted in Talk:Bermuda above. In the case of Smiths Parish, a listing will show outside the parish even though it's inside it. It seems potentially confusing. -Shaundd (talk) 19:46, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep in mind that the boundary differences in Talk:Bermuda are small and, on the parish map that is displayed in this discussion, there shouldn't be an issue. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 20:01, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Collaboration of the month - Bermuda
Requesting a little support for the final push in October. A number of contributors have reorganised and improved the contents of the parish (city) pages within this region. Could however do with more eat and sleep listings in these pages. Anyone willing to add their knowledge or do some research? --Traveler100 (talk) 05:44, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Sure, I'll get to it if and when I have a chance. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 14:01, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Bermuda COTM
The new COTM is Bermuda and anything breadcrumbed underneath it. These are the tasks:

 * Improve content of listings
 * fix dead links
 * expand description
 * add coordinates, address, phone number
 * Move listings to correct city article from region article. If key POI add some text in region article about it.
 * Add understand section to city article
 * Improve city articles to get them all to usable status
 * Adding See, Sleep and Eat listings were possible.

Some of these need local knowledge or require research, but there are some here that are easy. Here's to the success of another collaboration! --Comment by Selfie City  (talk about my contributions ) 00:50, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Would love to see a Bermuda DotM when all this is done! -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:53, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Probably it would be a good place to feature. I would assume that popular destinations which would interest/be accessible to a wide range of people are good choices. --Comment by Selfie City  (talk about my contributions ) 02:25, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Results
I think this COTM started poorly but gained momentum as it went along and proved to be fairly successful near the end of the month, when I got more involved. The main Bermuda article is currently at usable status and the parishes mostly have their own articles. The overview article no longer looks like a mess with stuff that shouldn't be there, but instead looks like a good Wikivoyage article. I'm not saying it can't be improved, but it is much better than it was.

Very good progress was made on the St. George's article; St. George, like the capital city Hamilton, is an important tourist destination at Bermuda, and notice the progress made from before the collaboration to now. Hamilton is not great when you consider that it's a capital city (sort-of; Bermuda is not an independent country), but it's not a bad article either.

Overall, I think it was a successful collaboration; I think important tourist destinations like Rio, Hawaii, Bermuda, etc. should have some of Wikivoyage's best articles since they are popular tourist destinations. Unfortunately, many of them are in need of a collaboration. But hopefully COTMs like Bermuda will see us change these problems for the better. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 21:08, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Bernal

Most common name?
Wikipedia lists this town as San Sebastián Bernal, but is it more commonly just known as Bernal? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 18:06, 31 July 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Berne

Hi. Note that Disambiguation does not work the same way here that it does at Wikipedia. Although there is also a Canton Bern, we have two different articles for it, the Bernese Highlands and the Bernese Lowlands. This corresponds to the way the Swiss travel office divides up the country and so we've adopted it here as well. -- (WT-en) Mark 16:11, 4 Feb 2006 (EST)

Thanks for the information, i know that many things works not the same way as in Wikipedia, but i do live in Bern and cant understand the divides of the tourist office (ok its an office, its not logical).

The Canton of Bern has more to offer than lowland & highland.

To count Bienne & Bern in the same part is a bit strange for someone that live in the area (but at a small point understandable).

I was visiting the Site and found the List of Swiss cantons this made me belife the target is to add every canton the wikivoyage.

I am Sorry, if i did too mutch but it was logical.

--Philippt 01:20, 5. Feb 2006 (CET)

Guys, sorry but what the heck! I cannot edit this page anymore! It keeps hitting the spam filter even if I contribute a simple triviality like:

"Flying to Berne directly is the exception though. You're probably better advised to fly in to Switzerland through Zurich Airport and take a direct train to Berne (takes you 1h30 max), or alternatively Geneva Airport (roughly 3h by train). See below."

C'mon, what's going on here.... This is content that has relevance for a foreign traveler. I live here, and I don't think I know anyone who's ever landed on Belp.

 * Somebody accidentally added " " to the spam blacklist. It's fixed now (or otherwise you couldn't even write the comment above!). (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:46, 15 August 2006 (EDT)

Bern/Berne
The article states that the official English spelling is Berne, yet the name of the article is Bern, and the text uses both spellings here and there. We need to decide for sure which to use and be consistent with it. Any opinions? (WT-en) Texugo 10:03, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

 * I'd go for Berne for consistency. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:55, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

 * I have renamed it to Berne and as far as possible changes all references to it to reflect the change. There was a lot of inconsitency, about half of references used Berne and the the other Bern. Should be a lot cleaner now. --(WT-en) Nick 12:03, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

The article says that Einstein's both special and the general theories of relativity were born here. I believe that this is not correct, since the general theory of relativity was only published in 1915, well after Einstein left Bern. Can anyone rectify? Thanks.

 * I think it should be Bern, it's way more popular and it's what Wikipedia and English versions of official websites use. Jjtkk (talk) 08:00, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

 * This really should be Bern, per Wikipedia, official tourist information sites for the city and the country, Tripadvisor, The Telegraph...--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:08, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * We don't have to follow Wikipedia, but there was a long discussion there with lots of evidence provided that concluded that "Bern" is the most common spelling in English. Let's use that discussion as a way of saving a lot of time for ourselves (even though we don't have to follow Wikipedia) so we can spend more time on more important stuff. Ground Zero (talk) 17:48, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised by that because English often follows French, rather than German or Italian spellings, even for cities in Italy and Germany (Milan, Rome, Venice, Cologne), and as someone who's read newspapers such as the New York Times since the 1970s, I always saw "Berne" datelines. However, I don't care which spelling we use here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The Wikipedia discussion suggests that Bern is standard in the US, and Berne more common in the UK, although Bern is used there, too. I expect this would come from the British picking up the French spelling, like for Cologne, while the large German population in the US would have swung the pendulum there towards Bern. Ground Zero (talk) 18:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * The German population in the U.S. was very large and distinct in the 19th and early 20th centuries. They've long since been assimilated and no longer really much of an "ethnic white" group. Yet I grew up seeing Berne, not Bern, in the U.S. press. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:04, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * My theory is wrong, then. Well, I tried. Ground Zero (talk) 19:12, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

 * for the record, I spent two weeks in the city, speaking more German than French and little English, and let me tell you, "Berne" reads very weird (actually in Portuguese it's the name of a skin parasite, common in cattle and dogs around here). I support the name Bern. Ibaman (talk) 19:14, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Reviving this old discussion, but I too support this (but not the IP's unilateral changes). I don't think I've ever seen the second "e" used in my life. -- SHB2000  (t | c | m) 11:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I support moving to Bern, after discussion and consensus. Ground Zero (talk) 12:58, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm still surprised. I've always seen "Berne" in English-language publications. However, I won't stand in the way of a consensus. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * In the last Wikipedia discussion, there is a lot of evidence presented showing that both spellings are widely used. Ground Zero (talk) 15:36, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That's a very long discussion! OK, no further objection from me. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * What makes the case for using Bern stronger for me is the name of the University of Bern (in English). SHB2000  (t | c | m) 09:42, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
 * There was a consensus here. Any objection to the proposed move? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Berneray

Ex links
Sort of... most of the links in buy eat and sleep are all to pages on the official berneray website, not actual sites of the businesses... is that ok? (WT-en) Cacahuate 10:58, 3 December 2006 (EST)

 * A site doesn't necessarily have to be "www.myrestaurant.com" to be a primary link - for example, most businesses in the Falkland Islands have a URL that is a sub-page of http://tourism.org.fk/, and the businesses use that URL as their official web site. I don't know Berneray at all, so I'm not sure if that's the case here, but if it is then the links are fine. -- (WT-en) Ryan 11:02, 3 December 2006 (EST)

 * Doh, looks like tourism.org.fk has recently been changed... another example might be the concessions in Yosemite National Park, which are all controlled by a single agency and mostly have official sites that are pages within the concessionaire's site. -- (WT-en) Ryan 11:07, 3 December 2006 (EST)

 * Works for me! (WT-en) Cacahuate 11:12, 3 December 2006 (EST)

 * Yeah, for most of the accommodations in Berneray, the community's web site is either their official online presence, or as "primary" a source as there is online. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 17:41, 4 December 2006 (EST)

 * I live on Berneray, maintain the "official" Berneray website, and wrote the original entry on this wiki, which am currently updating. Can confirm that only 2 of the businesses on Berneray have their own website. That's what the official website for the island was set up, so all the others would have some kind of web "presence" - (WT-en) Jkirriemuir 10 December 2006

Other services
Would be nice if the Other Services could be included in a Cope Sec. And maybe a few Scottish phrases could be included in Talk, since there is no phrasebook on wikivoyage for the Gaelic language. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel 11:21, 19 December 2006 (EST)

 * Changed "other services" to "cope"... surprised nobody noticed that sooner! But if someone decides to add phrases they should just do it in the Gaelic phrasebook page since it applies to more than Berneray. (WT-en) Cacahuate 11:42, 19 December 2006 (EST)

 * I think a little more could be included in a Cope Section. After all, Berneray is an off-the-beaten-path destination and facilities like ATMs, cinema halls etc are not so easily available. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikitravel 06:24, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Star -> guide
I bumped this back down from "star" to "guide". The "See" and "Do" sections don't match our Project:Manual of style for attraction listings.

I realize that Berneray is so small that it's going to be an exception to some if not all of the rules of the MoS. That means it should take longer to become a star -- we need to figure out if these exceptions meet our style guidelines. --(WT-en) Evan 11:06, 20 December 2006 (EST)

 * As stated on Project:Star nominations, I object violently to this rollback. A clear consensus was reached on this, and Evan, the fact that you individually do not share in that consensus does not refute its existence.  Furthermore, this is exactly the kind of place that fits into the "exception that proves the rule" heading explicitly laid out in Project:Star nominations.  Please explain yourself more fully, as I am about to revert this. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:38, 20 December 2006 (EST)

Conversation continued here: Project:Star_nominations

Camping
Any idea why the "camping" section keeps getting deleted? --(WT-en) Evan 09:21, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

 * Because somebody got bitten by a mosquito there and is angry? Really though, I've restored it a couple times too, please don't delete it unless you've come here to tell us why... or we'll just keep re-adding it. That info was added by a Berneray resident, so we trust what he says... – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 20:47, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

2022 update: There is no longer free camping for motor vehicles - the only place for them is at the East Beach where there is a £10 per night charge. Walkers and cyclists are allowed to wild camp in accordance with the outdoor access code, but this should be away from houses. In the early stages of the Covid-19 pandemic the locals were discouraging visitors as the island had been infection free after travel to the islands was restricted in March - June 2020. AlasdairW (talk) 22:28, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

 * Can you supply a weblink or other verification that East Beach still accepts campers? All the Hebrides have suffered from inconsiderate camping and parking, and I’m seeing so many online strictures, that I thought best to discourage unless there is a positive welcome from some quarter.
 * There is an area of grass next the East Beach where a sign says to put £10 per night in the box to camp. I don't know if this is online, but I saw it in July, and had a brief chat with the crofter who was mending the fence. There are no facilities - the £10 just helps the crofter maintain the area. However park4night suggests that the site might have closed a few days after I was there. I will try to find out more. The hostel no longer allows camping. AlasdairW (talk) 21:48, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Star?
This page was rated Star, but IMO was only middling usable. Much was out of date, sections were copies of Wikitravel (those zealots of excellence only rated it outline), and the style was discursive and rambling with daffy notions of Hebridean history. Relevant background was missing.

I’ve overhauled it, re-assigning as Rural area, and would appreciate thoughts on whether this remains a Star page, and what the hell that concept looks like on such a small island.

The case for Star is that if you want WV to be first choice for independent travel advice, here’s an exemplar. How many other guides to Berneray are out there? This page stands head and shoulders above Lonely Planet, which barely spares it a paragraph, and the tourist website which is glossy but superficial.

The case against is that this page is the same standard as many others, which ought to be the par for any credible guide. Over 95% of Scotland pages are at this level and the stragglers will be hunted down by the end of this year. To the extent that Berneray has more content per size than others, it’s because background (eg on wildlife and traditional ways of life) are expounded here but belong on the Outer Hebrides page. If it’s a Star then so are several hundred others, and most of those have better amenities and amusements.Grahamsands (talk) 16:26, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

 * Over on WT, Berneray is both Outline and Star depending on whether you read the first or last line of the article!. It was promoted in 2006, in the high days of WT. At that time an islander had added a lot of the content.
 * Berneray is covered by books on the Scottish Islands, but these are not regularly revised. "The Scottish Islands" by Hamish Haswell-Smith has 2.5 A4 pages on Berneray - the history is more detailed, but there is less visitor information and my copy is 20 years old. There are also guide leaflets sold locally which are comparable to our article.
 * If you want to remove the star, this should be discussed on Star_nominations. It might also be good to mention there that it is changing from City to Rural Area (the first star Rural Area?). AlasdairW (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I like this WT concept of Outline Star and Star Outline, presumably involving neutrinos. Grahamsands (talk) 19:46, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Berneray (disambiguation)

There is also an island just off the west coast of Lewis in Loch Roag called Great Bernera and this is often confused with Berneray as they had the same spelling in early maps.

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Talk:Berwick (Pennsylvania)

Comments
Berwick could be a disambiguation page. A search for Berwick in other Wikivoyage articles suggests there is a Berwick, or two, in Scotland as well as this one in Pennsylvania.

This page would be an orphan page were it not for a couple of redirect pages and an accidental reference to Berwick having a ranger station in an article about a National Park in Scotland. - (WT-en) Huttite 10:52, 20 February 2009 (EST)

Where is Berwick, Pennsylvania?
Northeastern Pennsylvania is rather vague, and not a regional article that Wikivoyage currently has. - (WT-en) Huttite 10:52, 20 February 2009 (EST)

Is an article about is Berwick, Pennsylvania, justified?
The article states: There are no real hotels or places to stay overnight in Berwick. That suggests Berwick, Pennsylvania, does not qualify as an article and should be merged into somewhere else. Mind you, if there aren't any real hotels are there false hotels or virtual hotels that do allow someone to sleep, though not overnight. - (WT-en) Huttite 10:52, 20 February 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Besakih

I am sure there will be questions of whether this follows the What is an article? requirement. I think Besakih ranks the same as Uluwatu and Tanah Lot, and maybe Machu Picchu as an example outside Bali, all of which are isolated landmarks with a growing number of facilities surrounding them. Their names are more known than the region or district they are located in. (WT-en) Slleong 01:46, 26 February 2009 (EST)

 * Sure, but is there a reason not to cover Besakih as a part of Mt Agung, the way it is now? (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:48, 26 February 2009 (EST)

 * 1. I believe the bulk of visitors see Besakih independent of and not linked to Gunung Agung as a destination, thus you will probably get more besakih searches and hence a redirect to Gunung Agung, a bit roundabout way of getting to your desired page; 2. If Besakih was subsumed into the Gunung Agung page, details on Besakih may end up taking up most of its space 3. The gunung agung page should be thought of as purely a "how to climb gunung agung" page? :) (WT-en) Slleong 12:27, 1 March 2009 (EST)

 * Most of our mountain articles (eg. Mount Fuji) cover both climbing and not-climbing activities. We only have one paragraph's worth of content on Besakih, so I see no need to split them at this time. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:27, 1 March 2009 (EST)

 * I agree with Jani—Besakih doesn't really meet the criteria for a separate article, and Mt Agung barely does as well. Together they would make a better developed travel article than they would apart. I say merge this content into Mount Agung. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:45, 13 September 2009 (EDT)

 * I sympathise with view of Slleong above and it is quite correct that visitors to Bali would not necessarily see Besakih as part of Mount Agung as far as destinations are concerned. However, it is hard to imagine how there could ever be enough content for Besakih to make a fully developed article (absolutely nobody stays there for example). I agree with the proposal to merge the article into the far more developed Mount Agung article and having a section covering Besakih there. Now that the Mount Agung article has been fully developed with climbing routes, advice and an account of the 1963 eruption, it will certainly not be swamped by details of Besakih. And I suggest that article should be renamed "Mount Agung and Besakih" with a redirect from each of Mount Agung and Besakih. Any objections? --(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:20, 13 September 2009 (EDT)

 * I could definitely live with that. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:59, 15 September 2009 (EDT)

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Talk:Bethany (West Virginia)

Comments
Let me know if any of you current students students stumble across this page. I know you have nothing better to do in Bethany, WV. (WT-en) Jjoelness 03:02, 22 March 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Bethany Beach

Reastaurants
I don't think it is necessary to list quite so many restaurants for such a small town. Just because some place exists doesn't mean it deserves to be mentioned. -500769
 * Honestly those listings are next to useless as they dont have addresses or decriptions at a minimum. Feel free to add in the info for worthwhile restaurants and delete those that are nopt worth eating at. - 203.14.52.44 02:52, 6 April 2011 (EDT)

Recent edits
Quite a few spelling and grammatical errors in the recent edits. Also, the picture captioned "Bethany Beach Boardwalk" is not a picture of the boardwalk. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 500769 (talk • contribs)

 * It looks like you've cleaned these up - thanks for the updates. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:53, 10 May 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Bethel Census Area

Really?
Aside from the only-a-bureaucrat-could-love-it name, I have to wonder is this sub-region really necessary? The South-Western (Alaska) article isn't exactly overloaded with content yet.
 * I was just going for the whole City - County - Region - State gig... I'm not sure if I'm particularly excited either, but its the actual structure... -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 21:03, 20 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Let's leave "actual structure" for Wikipedia to document. From Project:Geographical hierarchy: "The legal divisions in the geography of the world -- nations, provinces, and cities -- don't necessarily make for reasonable travel divisions. Just because some national government decided it would be easier to administer some swath of land by laying down lines on the official map doesn't mean that they deserve separate articles in Wikivoyage." - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:22, 20 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Hmmm... good call. Guess I'll have some work to UNdo now...  :( -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 22:30, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

Census Areas
I have to ask. Is a census area really a region? It seems to me this is an area used to gather statistics and may not be a natural region. I am not sure how these census areas fit into the Wikivoyage geographical hierachy. Does someone who knows Alaska have any better ideas of how the country is divided up? I think this question needs to be asked before we go too far and have to undo things. - (WT-en) Huttite 07:30, 27 July 2006 (EDT)

Bethel Census Area

 * Delete. See Unorganized Borough, above. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 21:15, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Why not redirect it to Bethel (Alaska) - once that article is written. Or move it there and rewrite. -- (WT-en) Huttite 21:58, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Bethel Census Area is a county of sorts whereas Bethel is a town. Anyway - I created the census area in an attempt to unorphan an article, yet not clutter the region with tiny villages. -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 22:19, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * Yeah, redirects are cheap, but there's little point in keeping a redirect for a name no one uses. I forgot to ask about deleting the Bethel Borough redirect to this article as well. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 22:30, 27 July 2006 (EDT)
 * The article is written now and has pages that link from it, so somebody thinks they might use the name. While Bethel may be a town and the census area may be a borough, there is also no reason not to write one combined article that discusses both the town and the surrounding area. This may be worthwhile even if the town or the census area, on their own, do not warrant a separate article. Besides, with the place being mentioned in Wikipedia, travelers are probably going to search for Bethel Census Area if they want to travel there. We should keep these redirects because they provide search associations that are useful to the traveler. -- (WT-en) Huttite 22:53, 29 July 2006 (EDT)
 * If someone's interested in traveling to Bethel, they'll search for "Bethel Alaska"; "Bethel Census Area" is not a name in popular usage (i.e. outside of governance and statistical circles). I think you overestimate the extent to which Wikipedia reflects how travelers perceive the world. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 16:37, 6 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Keep, at least for now. I am unconvinced that this is a "name no one uses."  As in the case of the Unorganized Borough, we can stand to keep a couple of eventually extraneous things around while we sort out what the preferred structure for Alaska looks like. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 17:51, 6 August 2006 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry, I'll clarify: "a name no one in the travel industry and no one who has ever traveled to Alaska without the US Census Bureau picking up the tab". I may have been wrong about this being a valid article (an article for Bethel Borough makes sense), but I've seen nothing to suggest that this is a properly named article.  And I've been looking. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 21:14, 6 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Bethel Borough might be worthwhile, as it is analagous to a county in other states. However, until that is needed I suggest both be redirected to Southwestern Alaska, which are the Wikivoyage regions that contain them. -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:48, 11 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Same as for Unorganized Borough: it's time to do something. Again, I see one person loudly and repeatedly opposed to keeping it, and otherwise, a consensus to keep and de-muddle -- a consensus that sees to be clearer than for Unorganized Borough.  Last call for dissents from keeping (Todd, we already know your position...), otherwise I'll archive the discussion. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:38, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Bill, you obviously don't understand my position, and just as obviously you don't give a damn. -(WT-en) Todd VerBeek 13:04, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
 * See the comment above - a borough is an Alaskan county, so someone is likely to re-create this in the future. Redirect to Southwestern Alaska, and it can always be split out again later if we need to. -- (WT-en) Ryan 12:50, 12 August 2006 (EDT)
 * I've done the redirect and am archiving this. It's time to move on. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 12:53, 13 August 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Bethesda

Moved listing
The following listing closed in D.C., but is moving to Bethesda. It should be added once it opens at its new location.

 * The one location of the famous Italian men's boutique is in D.C., and it's a great place to find tasteful, designer silk ties, as well as shirts, slacks, sweaters, etc. Particularly geared towards younger men.

 * Re-opened and added. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:54, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

Airport?
I was looking for information on which airport is best for getting to Bethesda - DCA, IAD, BWI? I suppose DCA as they have a metro stop there as well, but I'm not sure. 50.92.247.183 02:36, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

 * Downtown Bethesda is almost equidistant to all three in terms of driving distance, with IAD probably being just a little closer than the other two, as long as it's not afternoon rush hour. DCA would be fastest and cheapest by public transport, though. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:47, 25 July 2012 (EDT)

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Talk:Bethlehem

Should Beit Jala (currently a red link mentioned in the article) be spun off?
I think the dynamic map argues both the case for and against. What do you think? Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:01, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * No, not enough content. Ar2332 (talk) 14:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Then the red link should be removed or turned into a redirect. Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:37, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * DoneAr2332 (talk) 14:47, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:59, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Geotagging.
Can we get more of it? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:17, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Guide level?
What does this article need to reach Guide level? And would this be enough to be Dotm for Christmas 2023? /Yvwv (talk) 02:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Wow, do you really think this is a guide article when barely any listings have coordinates and lastedit fields? SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 02:27, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Bethlehem (Pennsylvania)

Stay Safe
About the "Stay Safe" section...I've edited it as it was completely inaccurate. While not all neighborhoods are great, I have never heard of gang activity on the level the writer of this section would have you believe, and Bethlehem is much safer than neighboring Allentown and Easton. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Hootsofsteel (talk • contribs)

Long lists
In the eat sleep and see and do sections there are some long lists; they are already broken down by price - can they be further broken down by any objective criteria? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:18, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

 * @ 102.214.84.2 13:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Beth Shean

Might have some good info: (WT-en) Majnoona 21:49, 24 April 2006 (EDT)
 * the Beth Shean Valley Archaeological Project - official Hebrew University website details past and ongoing excavations on the ancient city mound of Beth Shean and at the nearby (5 km south) site of Tel Rehov

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Talk:Betong

TAT clutter
Some Sleep listings from TAT, just placing them here for future reference.

Amphoe Than To
Namtok Than To (น้ำตกธารโต) is situated in Tambon Tham Talu, on the Yala-Betong road (Highway 410), turn right at the 47-48 kilometre stone for about one kilometre. It is a large waterfall with cascading water running through seven levels with pools for swimming. The surrounding forest is lush with many interesting species including Si Yala (Saraca thaipingensis Cantley ex Prain) with yellow blooms in February. Namtok La-ong Rung (Rainbow Waterfall) (น้ำตกละอองรุ้ง) is situated on the boundary between Amphoe Than To and Amphoe Betong, about 90 kilometres on the Yala-Betong road from Amphoe Mueang. Turn right onto a dirt road at about 40 kilometres before reaching Amphoe Betong, for about 100 metres. The slippery trek leads along the stream from the waterfall calls for precaution. During the rainy season, the waterfall has the effect of the rainbow, hence the name. Sakai Village (หมู่บ้านซาไก) at Mu 3, Tambon Ban Rae, about 80 kilometres on the road to Betong. The Sakai is an ancient nomad tribe who exists on hunting and gathering, is an expert on herbal plants and using darts for hunting. Their dwellings were originally made of bamboo, with thatch roof. Recently the Department of Social Work has developed the village by segregating the Sakai in one area and introduced rubber planting as their occupation. The Department also asked the Princess Mother for the naming of the group with the family name of “Si Than To”. At present, there are a few of the Sakai left at this village, the rest of the group has moved to other areas.

Sleep

 * Grand View (แกรนด์ วิว) 30-34 Grand villa Road (Tel: 0 7324 5510-6) 86 rooms: 690-750 baht
 * Cathay Betong (คาเธ่ย์ เบตง) 17-21 Chantarothai  (Tel: 0 7323 0996-9) 99 rooms: 590-640 baht
 * Jacky Chan (แจ๊คกี้ ชาน) 226 Sukkhayang Road (Tel: 0 7323 0710) 16 rooms: 250-350 baht
 * Sometime Resort (ซัมไทม์ รีสอร์ท) 42/20 Kunung Chanong Road (Tel: 0 7324 5611-2) 22 rooms: 500-800 baht
 * Thai Hotel (ไทย โฮเต็ล) 25 Rattanakit (Tel: 0 7323 1036) 81 rooms: 200-350 baht
 * Night Resort (ไนท์ รีสอร์ท) Sukkhayang Road (Tel: 0 7324 5620-4) 44 rooms: 800-2,500 baht
 * Betong Hotel (เบตง โฮเต็ล) 13/6 Saritdet Road (Tel: 0 7323 1231) 37 rooms: 120-250 baht
 * Betong City Plaza (เบตง ซิตี้ พลาซ่า) 1 Thamwithi (Tel: 0 7323 0441-3) 130 rooms: 300-800 baht
 * Betong Merlin (เบตง เมอร์ลิน) 33 Chayachawarit Road (Tel: 0 7323 0222-40) 190 rooms: 875-3,600 baht
 * Penhouse Resort (เพนท์ เฮ้าส์) 68/1 Rattanasathian Road (Tel: 0 7323 1501-2) 36 rooms: 580-720 baht
 * FourTuna (โฟร์ทูน่า) 50-58 Phakdidamrong Road (Tel: 0 7323 1180) 71 rooms: 500-600 baht
 * Faanrung (ฟ้าอันรุ่ง) 113/1-2 Chantharotai (Tel: 0 7323 1403) 38 rooms: 120-220 baht
 * My House Hotel (ม���ย เฮ้าส์ โฮเต็ล) 27 Rattanakit (Tel: 0 7323 0525-6) 63 rooms: 300-500 baht
 * Metro (เมโทร) 8/2 Chantharotai Road Soi 1 (Tel: 0 7323 0741) 19 rooms: 250-350 baht
 * River Inn Resort (ริเวอร์ อินน์ รีสอร์ท) 42/21 Kunung Chanong Road (Tel: 0 7323 4175-6) 21 rooms: 500 baht
 * Sri Chareong (ศรีเจริญ) 29 Chirachinda Road (Tel: 0 7323 0537) 40 rooms: 120-200 baht
 * Sri Betong (ศรีเบตง) 2-4 Thamwithi Road (Tel: 0 7323 1560) 120 rooms: 700-800 baht
 * Sang fa (แสงฟ้า) 90 Rattanasathian Road (Tel: 0 7323 1195) 46 rooms: 130-250 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 19:52, 5 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Bettiah

I was cleaning up this article, but was unable to decipher the following. If you can, please add back -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 10:38, 17 October 2007 (EDT)

 * RETA - A long river shore besids the river Gandak. But now it is in control of criminals.

 * Haribatika -a watchable experience in night.Also the birth place and residence of ALOK,the big computer whizkid.

 * drink - Nice wine in cheap rate and desi "tari" awesome....

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Talk:Between Sanur and Ubud

I'm not sure if this is trying to be a region or a itinerary. I think the info currently in the article would do well as part of a get out from either Sanur or Ubud (probably Ubud as it's the bigger destination). Comments, thoughts? (WT-en) Maj 15:26, 10 January 2007 (EST)

 * I'd also pip for moving this to Ubud. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:24, 11 January 2007 (EST)

 * I started the page, and would disagree about folding it into Ubud. I think the "craft villages" are a distinct destination, separated by some distance, and if I remember correctly, they perhaps get a separate section in a certain travel book whose initials are LP.  Not to slight Ubud, but it's become very touristy and is mostly a conglomeration of tourist gift shops, internet cafes, restaurants, and small hotels.  It's not clear if anyone makes anything there any more.  The craft villages, in contrast, seem to be the center of the export trade in Bali, and  still have active workshops scattered about.  Nearly everyone with schemes of importing Balinese crafts to their home countries will spend serious time there.  There are many large showrooms with a much bigger selection of stuff.

 * Ubud presents a total experience -- food, shopping, atmosphere, attractions, etc. The craft villages are more one-dimensional -- for serious shopping.

 * This article on the craft villages could be much expanded with information that would be very useful to people looking for high-end artwork and people trying to do business there, as well as the tourists who are stopped off there on their day tours. Lots could be written about the different showrooms, what they offer, what appropriate prices are, background on Balinese crafts, etc. -- all of which could overwhelm the Ubud article and distract from the relevant information about Ubud for people going to Ubud for what Ubud is. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 58.186.156.230 (talk • contribs) 22 Jan 2006

 * It could, but at the moment, it doesn't. So how about putting it under Ubud for now, and if it really is about to get buried under an avalanche of craft shopping, then it can be sloughed off. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:32, 22 January 2007 (EST)

 * It seems to me that Wikis provide value when you plant seeds and let them grow. Lots of people are passing through the craft villages every day, accumulating experience on shopping there, and if they have a framework in which to deposit their findings, they will do it.  But if you kill the seed, they won't do it.  It's a matter of philosophy -- what is more important here -- current neatness of the section and conformance to rules, or the ultimate value of the material to readers.

 * What really needs to be done to the article is to start building an outline, naming the villages, and adding some content to set an example for what other travelers can add. I unfortunately don't remember the names of any place I saw when I visited in October.  The article would depend on future travelers who will keep the business cards and make notes, because they know there is a framework in place for sharing the information.

 * They need to find the information first, and if it's hidden under "Between Sanur and Ubud" they aren't going to find it. There are lots of craft villages also along the southern road from Denpasar to Ubud, and I'm sure you can find them north and east as well -- does it make sense to put them too in their own articles? (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:58, 22 January 2007 (EST)

 * Perhaps you are right, the article should be retitled "Craft Villages" to be more informative. That nameless guidebook mentioned five, as I recall, each with a traditional specialty.  All are on the road from Sanur to Ubud.  The ones I recall are Mas (wood carving), Celuk (Jewelry.)  I don't have my guidebook with me anymore (and don't really understand how to create outlines in this system).  It's my impression from having been through the area three times over six years, that the identity of the villages is blurring, and you will no longer see only product A in village A.  New showrooms are opened where it's convenient for the owner.  But that's just an impression, and others would know more.

 * It might also be true that commercialization of the area has driven some artisans to other places, and that other villages have always had outstanding stuff to be seen. It might be true that the "craft villages" have evolved into a retail center where crafts are aggregated from around the islands and shown to tourists and wholesale buyers.  Good advice might be to bypass the big showrooms and go to less tour-bussed places where artisans really live and work.  But the perfect is the enemy of the good, and I think it's a good start to  document the offerings of the five traditional "craft villages."  The craft villages are a worthy subject because they are the center of big showrooms where you can see a lot quickly; and they have some very nice stuff; and many day tours go through there, so the information will be useful to a lot of travelers.

 * My suggestion would be to start with an umbrella article, and maybe separate them later into one per village if and when there is enough content and it makes sense. An alternative would be to create an outline by product category, and keep it one umbrella article for the long term, if it's true that the boundaries have been blurred.

 * I am admittedly not very useful in building the article for now, and won't have time until late next month. My motive for planting the seed is that I hope to go back to Bali some day, and it's frustrating to be wandering around there with inexact information, trying to find places your driver might or might not know about.  I assume others would find the information valuable also.

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Talk:Beverly Hills

Ritzy?
Couldn't think of something better, but that line about 90210 and all should be changed... BH is just a typical American city? Not really. Most travelers would be awed by the large houses, shiny cars and general bling. And plenty of celebrities live there. (WT-en) - Cacahuate 19:53, 9 March 2007 (EST)
 * I haven't been to America since I was 5, but I can assure you that claiming "BH us a typical Am.n city" is misleading for travellers. In other words, agree with cacahuate. (WT-en) Upamanyuwikivoyage • ( Talk ) • ( (WT-en) Travel ) • 11:11, 16 April 2007 (EDT)

 * OK, I did a rewrite... not perfect, but I think it's much more realistic than before... – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 00:58, 17 May 2007 (EDT)

Banner image
I am working on putting a banner header on the Beverly Hills article but am not sure what image to put up. The two options I am considering are the Civic Center and a Rodeo Drive sign (see below.) Any thoughts on these or any other suggestions?

Epolk (talk) 01:30, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

 * I think the first one would be better, because it'll have the title "Beverly Hills" written on top of it, and on smaller screens, this may over lap with part of the text of the Rodeo Dr. sign. Texugo (talk) 01:39, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Talk:Beylaqan

Guys, could you please change the name to Beylegan? It is more correct this way! Thanks (WT-en) Carlocastoro 08:10, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

 * Hi - Wikivoyage uses the most popular spelling in English, not the official spelling. According to Google hits, both spellings are equally popular. What is your opinion? (WT-en) WindHorse 08:18, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

 * I think that it should be Beylegan I guess.. If Carlo thinks it should be..(WT-en) Cupcakecommander 15:25, 29 March 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Bhadrachalam

Someone removed the information about auto-rickshaws. I've restored it until we have an explanation. Is the information inaccurate? Out of place? Poorly stated? --14:46, 27 January 2007 (EST)

Train info
Can you please correct the train info? Looks like hyd-bhadrachalam train route is changed.

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Talk:Siddharthanagar

Greetings, I am Scott Justice SEJustice and a new member to Wikivoyage but a long time wikipedia contributer. I mean to draw out the Sunauli crowd to argue that they have it wrong. As for my bonifides, I am a US citizen who physically lived and worked in Bhairahawa for over three years in the 1990s and I continue to work there through an NGO based in Bhairahawa but am now a resident of Kathmandu. There has always been a confusion by tourists and their guides/books about Sunauli and Bhairahawa. The Government of Nepal did not help things when 4-5 years back they decided to set everyone right and begin to call Sunauli, Nepal by it's long forgotten and unused official name Belahiya. ANother aspect of the problem is the minor tourist mafia located in Delhi and Gorakpur who want to continue their monopoly over the busing of the lowend backpacker tourists directly to their friends/colleages the Kathmandu tourist mafia. They do this by telling the tourists for decades there is nothing to do or see in Sunauli and threaten anyone who trys to go there and tell the tourists otherwise. Accouding to my Bhairahawa hotelier freinds there is another emerging high end tourist Mafia who seek to control the quickly growing and higher end east Asian Buddhist circuit pilgrims/tourists who are whisked very quickly in and out of Nepal to visit Lumbini. Anyway, I intend to argue to keep this page "Bhairahawa" as separate and distinct from Sunauli. I would consider having it hyphenated with the less used Siddharthanagar. I will be visiting time to time to edit and prove to everyone what a nice place/area this is .....once you get out of Sunauli Belahiya. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) SEJustice (talk • contribs)

 * Welcome! Feel free to expand the page all you like, I agree they should probably be separate articles, and your expertise is much appreciated. Question though, before I change the opening sentence of the Sunauli article... is it untrue that both sides are generally referred to as Sunauli? When I crossed there that's always what I referred to it as. If that's the case, regardless of what should be, I think we should note that on both pages, so as to avoid confusion. What would a Nepali coming from Kathmandu to India refer to the border crossing as? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 20:39, 12 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks cacahuate. Yes, agreed everyone/locals call both sides of the border Sunauli. Also FYI locals would also agree that Sunauli India side is more of a hell hole for travelers than Sunauli Nepal. But for shoppers who come to the border seeking cheap goods- Indian on the India side and Chinese/Nepali on the Nepali side - would agree that the Indian shop keepers are much more skilled business people and are much more friendly and helpful. (WT-en) SEJustice 01:06, 29 February 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Bhaktapur

Great article on the town... but NOWHERE does it actually say what part of the world it's in. From the reference to Kathmandu I guess Nepal... I got to it with the random button and for context's sake it's important for the first sentence or two of an article to say what and where the place is. eg. 'Frednerksville is a small city on the east coast of Blazikstahn ' (WT-en) KJ

 * Good catch, thanks. This was one of the first cities and I think I was waiting to see if we came up with some sort of convention for linking to the parent pages, then I forgot to come back to it. I'm gonna go check my other articles to make sure they all have this (WT-en) Majnoona

location of the bhaktapur
Thanks for the suggestion. I also thought the same as to the article of Bhaktapur lacked which part of the world it is situated. But later realized that the location is well given just under the main title Bhaktapur as Asia South Asia Nepal Bagamati Bhaktapur district Bhaktapur. Hence I feel the repeation may not be necessary.

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Talk:Bhojpur

The original content states that you cannot stay here, only in Bhopal. According to our rule of thumb, that would suggest this destination should be moved to the Get Out section of Bhopal. As I don't know the place, I thought I'd ask for opinions. (WT-en) Maj 20:17, 8 August 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Bhubaneswar

Comments
The names and addresses given in Sleep section lead to personal advertisements. Need to be removed.

 * Does anyone else agree that while slightly useful we need to nuke the sleep section, if we are ever to hope to get a proper sleep section? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 07:54, 26 November 2009 (EST)

 * I agree—this is pure yellow pages material. Time for a do-over. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:37, 26 November 2009 (EST)

"Education" section
I moved this from article space because it seems like exactly what we don't want in a "Learn" (or in this case, "Education") section. Such sections on this site are supposed to focus on institutions that offer courses lasting about 2 weeks or less.

Education

 * Utkal University, Vanivihar. The leading university of the state. It had once the distinction of largest university in the world in terms of colleges affiliated to it.
 * Xavier Institute of Management, Bhubaneswar (XIMB), One of the premier B-schools of India. With an alumni base extending from New Delhi to New York, XIMB is a global figure in imparting quality management education.
 * University Law College, Vani Vihar, Bhubaneswar : One of the oldest and the renowned law college produced leading lawyers and justices in the State of Odisha.
 * KIIT (Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology) : One of the youngest institutions to be awarded the deemed university status in India and then the university status in 2004 and is recognised by Limca Book of Records. The University offers under-graduate and post-graduate courses in Engineering, Bio-technology, Medicine, Management, Law, Computer application, Rural management, Fashion, Film Studies, Journalism and Sculpturing.
 * International Institute of Information & Technology(IIIT), Bhubaneswar, Gothapatna,5 km from Khandagiri. This is the newly built technical college of the state, affiliated to the Biju Pattnaik University of Technology to impart IT eduction in state and soon going to be autonomous.
 * Biju Pattnaik University of Technology, Odisha. The most prestigious state-run technical University of the state..
 * Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Institute of Mathematics and Applications have recently started taking students and are being expanded. A medical school modeled after
 * AIIMS, All India Institute of Medical Sciences, Bhubaneswar is one of the six AIIMS like apex healthcare institutes being established by the Ministry of Health & Family Welfare, Government of India.
 * National Institute of Science Education and Research(NISER),Top Research center in all of India.
 *  Regional College of Management, Autonomous, said to be the oldest management institute in the state of Orissa. Bhubaneswar is no less in Business studies.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Bus schedules moved from "Get around"
These kinds of detailed bus schedules are better linked to on an official website for the bus company than posted here:

Fare Structure
Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:37, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Bhuna

Spelling
Are we going to use Bhuna, Bahuna, or Bahuan? Right now, there are articles under all three spellings. I assume Bahuan is just a typo. So which of the remaining ones is best to use? The other one should be turned into a redirect. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 21:36, 13 December 2011 (EST)

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Talk:Bhutan

Life expectancy and refugees
Dearest 210.200.105.229, thanks for your hard work in filling up this article, but please consider creating an account to make it a little easier to communicate! So for the record, let's stick with 63 years as taken from. And yes, there are two sides to every coin, but the view the government doesn't publicize also deserves a mention... (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:31, 9 Mar 2005 (EST)

Agreed.

Population
I've reverted Tom's revert of Stephen Atkin's edit. The UN and CIA estimate that the population is roughly 2,279,723, while Bhutan's census bureau places the population at 672,425. This is such a wild discrepancy that I've noted both figures. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 15:45, 27 December 2006 (EST)
 * Before thorough censuses were conducted, it was indeed widely thought that the population of Bhutan ranged from around 1.5 million to 2.5 million. However, these figures have been discredited in the light of the 2005 census which Bhutan conducted in order to draw up a list of eligible voters for the 2008 elections as well as for future planning of schools/hospitals etc. In terms of receiving aid, it is actually in Bhutan's interest to inflate the figure, so certainly this lower figure can be considered accurate. Based on this info, I have deleted the 2.5 million figure (I think only the CIA is still quoting this). I hope that is acceptable. (WT-en) WindHorse 22:27, 27 December 2006 (EST)

Tour operators
I've noticed that http://72.18.135.200/dotbhutan/tour_operator.asp isn't accessible today. Not sure if that's temporary or not. (WT-en) David-journeys.travel 16:33, 7 November 2007 (EST)

I am a tour operator in Bhutan (www.tours.com.bt), and all of the approved government operators are on the Tourism Council of Bhutan government website. I have added a link inside the "Get In" section to the appropriate link: http://www.tourism.gov.bt/bhutan/tour-operators. --(WT-en) Rinchen2t 20:51, 1 January 2011 (EST)

Lists of packed URLs
From a standpoint of Wikivoyage style, this article is a mess of lists of packed URLs. I'm too tired to deal with this right now, but if someone wants to do a useful editing job, that's an obvious one. All the best, (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 05:34, 13 June 2012 (EDT)
 * Web site has change to www.bhutan.travel, would be a good time to reduce the links as they are broken. --Traveler100 (talk) 17:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?
In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 03:38, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I find it very hard to pick between these banners. Both are very good, but they're so different from each other. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:35, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

 * Both good. I somewhat prefer the second because it more directly gives a feel of mountains & Buddhism. Pashley (talk) 01:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I like the new one. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:41, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

 * When I think Bhutan, I immediately think of the second/lower image. I wouldn't mind an 'artistic' shot, but of these images, I prefer the lower one. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:06, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Vajrayana
"Bhutan is the only Vajrayana Buddhist nation in the world" - what about Mongolia? 15.195.185.78 08:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Is there an official religion in Mongolia? I'm just guessing perhaps that's what the text means. But please edit or remove it as appropriate. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:34, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this page. Ground Zero (talk) 04:07, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Białowieża

This place could be one or perhaps 3 articles. I have not split it up yet because I think a lot could be said about the national park as just being an attraction in this article about a village. While the National Park here may be significant it may not warrant a separate article if the only reason to visit the Bialowieza area is to see the national park. Also the forest is relatively small, being measured in square metres, not square kilometres. Someone familiar with the area needs to give this article some thought. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:40, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

Speculation
I removed:

 * Global-warming also severely threatens the delicate balance of this eco-system as winters become increasingly warmer....A switch by European nations to electric trains for transport, instead of polluting automobiles could help this problem.

because this partly speculation and mostly simplistic opinion. Automobiles probably use energy more efficiently than electric generating stations would, if distribution and storage losses are considered. This means a simple switch to electric transport would not solve the problem if the same raw material (fossil fuel) is used. A switch to more renewable energy fuels is called for. Reducing pollution from automobiles is complex but can be overcome by changing to biofuels (plant oils) - which recycle CO2, lower-carbon fuels such as methane (natural gas, biodigesters or even coal gas) which reduced CO2 emissions, or hydrogen (e.g. fuel cells) which emits water as a product of combustion. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:40, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

title: Talk:Białowieża


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Talk:Białowieża National Park

Fauna correction
I changed the words 'similar to' and put 'same as' moose in North America. I also put 'tarpan'in place of Przewalski horse. Przewalskis have never been extinct and are running free in Mongolia and are called Taki by the locals.Europeans did kill all of the tarpan. Some breeds of horses carry tarpan blood. Careful breeding for color, shape and size has resulted in an animal barely discernible from the tarpan. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 67.206.162.251 (talk • contribs) 13:48, 29 September 2010

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Talk:Białystok

I removed the info about Bialystok having a direct train link with Gdansk as the Polish rail site says you have to change at Warsaw.

83.12.97.234 04:41, 29 March 2007 (EDT) Louis

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Talk:Bibhuti Bhushan Wildlife Sanctuary

This article has been tagged with, why?, (WT-en) ClausHansen 06:01, 17 January 2010 (EST)

 * Looks like a small and not very important nature reserve. Not a National Park. Maybe more an attraction than an article. I guess that is the reasonaing. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 06:39, 17 January 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Bicol Region

Comments
I am an american of phillipino decent my father was phillipine. I am looking for relatives in the phillipines for the san jose area, Nueva, Ecija. My fathers name was Simon San Juan, I am looking for any relatives I might have there in the phillipines I am planning a trip if you have any knowledge please contact me at Angelasjg@aol.com.

thank you

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Talk:Big Basin Redwoods State Park

I thought I would try out the proposed Park Template for Big Basin Redwoods S.P. (WT-en) Rpetersen 21:23, 18 May 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Big Bend (Swaziland)

From:Db12345 Hi It is fine to use the text and images.

I also added that I agreed for the use to the disclaimer on Swazilive when the same query was asked about all the pictures used on this page. All the pictures seem fine now, so am not sure why the same issue is being raied again.

any queries let me know afriroots@gmail.com

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Talk:Big Bend National Park

Map
This discussion continued from Star nom discussion

I've put up two versions of the map, one green, one gray, for comparison. I didn't use the old park green that we've used in the past, since I think it's overly bright and looks a little garish. The high contrast park color (usually accompanied by the tree pattern) is a little too dark to be used as the foreground, so I lightened and desaturated it a bit. And the pattern used on the foreground would not be desirable, since it would muddle the details. Personally, I do like the green version better.

The map could certainly stand to be improved, especially since it's only usable now when printed at a very high resolution (this was even more true of the original NPS map). Fixing it up would be a good bit of work though, since the text didn't import correctly. Basically all the text on the map would have to be retyped. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:56, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * I think the gray version is much clearer. (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:39, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * How about this green in between the gray and the darker green? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:15, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

 * That, or we could use white text with the dark green. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 00:30, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

 * Bit of a weird shade, but it's legible enough. I'm not particularly hung up on needing to represent parks as green though... (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:18, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

 * I kinda have a pretty strong preference for green park maps  :)   I don't think the darker green is any less legible or harder on the eyes than the grey. I don't mind the in-between green/grey either if others prefer it to the darker green – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 00:32, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

 * I'd also like to see what these look like printed in B&W. White text, for example, gets muddled very easily in print. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:27, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

 * I'm not a big fan of the white text version. But I think the "in-between" color would print pretty well. Even better with the trail colors PerryPlanet used on the map now in the article. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:29, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

Star nomination - archived discussion
Howdy, all. I'd like submit for nomination a destination dear to my heart: Big Bend National Park. Hopefully everything is up to snuff. (WT-en) Army of me 00:59, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Support. It's been a pleasure to watch this article grow, and I can't see any obvious room for improvement. I hope I'll get to put it to use soon! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 12:15, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Support. Fantastic article! I'm always finding reasons to be proud of our park articles. However, there is one thing - the star criteria for a park says that the article must have a Wikivoyage-style map (this was established when Zion was promoted to star), rather than the regular NP version. If you want, I can make this map, because this article is truly exquisite. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 13:13, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * I was wondering about that. Do you know where that discussion took place? IMO, the detailed NPS park map with all the trails is going to be more useful than a WT-style map, and it's Public Domain, so it's not like there are any licensing issues. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:17, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Ironically, I think I used some of those same arguments way back when...The discussion is here: Project:Star nominations/Archives. I don't want to hold Big Bend back from star status for this minor issue either, but it became such a big deal when Zion was up that I figured it would come back... (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 13:59, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * I'm not sure the NPS map is readable at printed size, but I'm also not sure I'd hold the article back from Star status just for that reason. (WT-en) LtPowers 13:22, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * If you are up to creating a WT-style map, with at least the trailheads marked (if not the trails)—awesome. It might be necessary to use more than one png for such a map (e.g., northeast, northwest, southeast, southwest). But like Ryan said in this discussion, I don't think it makes sense to substitute a WT-style map that is less useful than the NPS map. Per a strict reading of the star status criteria, use of an NPS map could be a disqualifier, but a WT-style map could satisfy the requirements for star status without being up to the NPS standards!

 * It would be great if we could grab the vector version of the NPS map and alter the colors to our preferred style, maybe remove the vague topographical definition, etc. But unless someone here has access to a vector graphics editing program that can import NPS pdfs (like $600 Illustrator ), then that won't be a realistic option. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:11, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Just tested, and Inkscape can open it without problem. The entire background is one easily-removable element as well.  - (WT-en) Dguillaime 17:05, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Aha, so I was raising a fuss for no reason ;) I'll whip up a WT-style map from the NPS pdf today.  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:23, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * That was extremely easy! I'll play around with the map a bit more, to remove some of the less important info, make the more important info more visible, alter some more of the colors for visibility, etc. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:38, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Support. I love this part of Texas, and this article is excellent — it feels comprehensive, provides exactly the right level of detail on everything, and is thoroughly enjoyable to read. (And FYI — I have access to a copy of Illustrator should it ever prove necessary.) (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 20:55, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Support. Good news on the map discovery, that's handy, I would have not supported without a WT map (no other guidebook would go to publication with a NP map just because it's easier :) Peter, are we not using green for NP map backgrounds anymore? – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 17:03, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * Support Fantastic guide, and as for the map I have a feeling the standard dark green, would make it confusing to read, but maybe we could test it? --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 17:57, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * It's not the dark green used for city parks, it's green like this one :) – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 18:27, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * I'm no fan of that old neon green, but I've put up a quieter green version for comparison here. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:59, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * Love it.... perhaps you should propose that as the new standard on the htdam talk page – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 20:08, 1 July 2009 (EDT)

 * It's a great article, and as someone said, it really is an enjoyable read. I just have one question: I have seen previous discussions about the need for linked articles to be at guide status. Does that still stand? There are some red articles, but more importantly, the cities Study Butte-Terlingua and Lajitas, which are mentioned repeatedly as the places to "Eat", "Drink", and "Sleep" are only outlines... Is that an issue? (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 02:33, 2 July 2009 (EDT)
 * I think that usually means linked in a "regions", "cities", or "other destinations" section (that is, sub-articles that would point back to this one in breadcrumb navigation). (WT-en) LtPowers 11:10, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Visitor centers
Currently, all of the visitor centers are listed in the #See section. However, per WV:ABC, they should be in the understand section. However, given that this is a star article, I'm reluctant to touch it. Any objections before I move the visitor centers up to #Understand? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Banner
The current banner doesn't give any feel of the place. When I first used Category:Star articles as an inspiration to write Sydney Harbour National Park as well as Mungo National Park, I instantly ignored this one because of the dull pagebanner (as well as Isle Royale National Park). Nevertheless, here's three new banners I've cropped. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:00, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

 * Tough choice between 3 and 2, but I think I would choose 3. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:55, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

 * 2, 0=3, 1. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 03:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * (nominator's preference): 3, 2, 1, 0. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Seems three has overall more support so I'll switch it. 3 also made it on my favorite banner collection SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:39, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Big Corn Island

Question - Palo de Mayo Festival on Corn Islands
I am writing in the hopes that someone may be able to help me solve a mystery about the authorship of an historical document I found online. The historical document is a scanned copy of a brief, and rather amateurish history of the Corn Islands. The article can be found at: http://www.bigcorn.com/historical_document/index.html Page six of this article gives a clue as to who the author was. The clue comes in the context of the author's description of the "Maypole Festival" on Corn Islands. Among the longer text, the author writes:

"It was opened by [the President of Nicaragua] this year, with myself having the honour to be his partner. Probably it was the first time in history, that the British Ambassador and his wife have taken part." Does anyone know -- or is able to find out -- what year the President of Nicaragua "opened" the Palo de Mayo celebration, while the British Ambassador (and his wife) "took part"? Thanks very much for your help!

Merge with Little Corn Island?
The two articles seem quite similar, and merging would allow links to "The Corn Islands" which is how they often seem to be grouped. I may be wrong though; interested in hearing from someone who knows the places and WikiVoyage conventions better. --Thomas Craven (talk) 14:23, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * At first glance, both articles seem decently developed, and neither is short. How much of the text of each article overlaps? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:31, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I have been to both islands and they are notably different in many ways. Little Corn for instance has not a single ATM which is of relevance to visitors Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:34, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Big Island

Even though the official name is Hawaii, almost every time I hear the Big Island mentioned, it's called the Big Island. I think according to our article naming conventions that's the name we should use. Comments? --(WT-en) Evan 06:34, 27 Nov 2003 (PST)

Yeah, I think it's a good solution. Better than both "Hawaii Island" (which just sounds wrong) and "Island of Hawaii" (which one would look for only because another page told you that The Big Island was listed that way). -- (WT-en) Eureka 27 Nov 2003

 * I think we'd probably end up doing "Hawaii (island)" and "Hawaii (state)", which seems like less of a good solution. P.S. Thanks for working on this! -- (WT-en) Evan 09:45, 27 Nov 2003 (PST)

I think Honolulu is going to be problematic, just because it includes so much territory. It may make sense to move a lot of the Oahu content on Honolulu over to the Honolulu page itself...but later you'll have the problem that Honolulu itself includes so many other neighborhoods with their own distinct identities. Anyway I hope you won't mind if I experiment with that somewhat. I'll try to look at what you've done in other regions with the analogous problem...? -- (WT-en) Eureka 12:00, 27 Nov 2003 (PST)

Regions
I have added these regions, because the descriptions for other places refered to them. In the case of Ka'u, it is described as a large area. Whether it rates as a top level region is up for discussion. However, until the regions are built out a bit it should sit here as it has nowhere else to go, yet. -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:01, 27 Dec 2005 (EST)
 * Ka'u - Between Puna and Kona
 * East Coast
 * West Coast
 * Northwest

 * A lot of time has passed and there seems to be nobody weighing in on whether the regions are appropriate. The Big Island article is getting filled up with a lot of detail that should be in town articles. There is not supposed to be any Sleep section at all and the article should be just giving overviews, teasers if you will, toward the town articles. Do we have any locals working on this who can give an opinion about the regions? There is this: official site  (WT-en) OldPine 16:26, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Wikipedia, in it's articles about Puna, Kona, Hilo, Ka'u, etc. refers to these as districts or historic districts. There are 9 of them. See also http://www.hawaii-county.com/council/districts.htm which shows a map of these and describes what's included. This might be a way to clearly define the regions for us. There seems to be some variability between Wikipedia and this county map's regions. (WT-en) OldPine 23:17, 5 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Deleted Hawi and Keau in Cities subsection, as the list was getting rather long and the articles for those still don't exist. In regards to the regions, and even some of the other cities (several of which lack much content), consolidation should be considered. If an article doesn't have enough "See, Do, Sleep," etc. to stand on its own, it shouldn't. (WT-en) Zepppep 16:47, 12 April 2011 (EDT)

Stub?
Until tonight, this article had no "See" section, but I just made "Do" "See and Do". It should really have a separate "See" section, probably. And why on Earth does it have no "Understand" section? I'm shocked it's gone so many years without one. Kailua-Kona has a short "Understand" section; Hilo does, too, but it's pretty much specific to Hilo and environs.

So, I've been to the Big Island only once so far, but off the top of my head, we'll want to mention the following in an "Understand" section:

(1) The pre-colonization history of the island. Colonization/U.S. military presence during WWII, whatever, and relationship with the rest of the state. (2) Its identity as the newest island in the Hawaiian chain and the only one with active volcanoes, in particular, Kilauea, which is one of the most active in the world. We could also mention here Pele and the sacredness of the volcanoes to the Hawaiians, or we could save that for later when we mention highlights of a visit. (3) The largely rural and small-town nature of the island with huge areas of high ground in the interior and long volcanic beaches with black sand. (4) The Kona side being drier and more touristy and the Hilo/Hamakua side being the rainiest area in the United States (50 states, anyway), with 180 inches of rain a year but still nice to visit. (5) Going up to the Visitor's Center of Mauna Kea as a highlight of a visit, along with the attendant controversy between many Hawaiians and astronomers over the Observatory and the new planned one at the top of the mountain. Volcanoes National Park, hiking the Kalauea Iki Trail and looking into the caldera of the volcano as another highlight. We could also mention whichever beaches are considered the greatest and viewing leatherback turtles, whichever lava tubes are considered most spectacular and maybe some other hikes, but we should keep in mind what to leave for "See" and "Do". (6) Hawaii as a place with a relaxed lifestyle where the speed limit is often 25 mph (I think it was 35 between villages on the Hamakua Coast, but per this site, as there were at least as of the time I visited no divided rural roads, it couldn't be above 45) and most people drive under the speed limit. (7) The unique ecosystem on the island, including the use of some delicious wild berries such as poha berries that grow only on the Big Island.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

 * I made a start to "Understand". Please edit in any way that's helpful and engaging. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Big Lake Country

Regions
No work has yet been done to split the Peace River Valley into sub-regions. Please begin a discussion at Talk:Peace River Valley to define the regions. (WT-en) Texugo 16:58, 2 February 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Big Sky

can one sleep here? --(WT-en) Hayfield 11:26, 9 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Big Sur

Big Sur has notable history. Artists like Henry Miller and Edward Weston. Esalen Institute. The Hearsts. Construction of the highway, including concrete bridges built by the WPA or in that era. Can someone who knows the history better than I do please start writing it up? (WT-en) LADave 15:03, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Wikipedia has a good description, we can't copy anything over verbatim due to the difference in licensing between our sites, but if you feel like picking some interesting facts out and putting them in your own words here, that would be helpful! – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 15:18, 26 May 2007 (EDT)

This page is listed as "usable." However, it actually lists every restaurant, gallery, and hotel/campground in Big Sur. (Big Sur is remote and thinly settled.) It would be difficult to improve on this without Wikipedia-style information. Should its status be changed? (WT-en) Rednikki 14:38, 7 January 2009 (EST)

 * It looks like an upgrade to guide status would be appropriate. Thanks for catching that. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:08, 7 January 2009 (EST)

Featured destination?
What does this article need to be a featured destination? /Yvwv (talk) 21:58, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Australia's big things

Well this is certainly another way of seeing travel.. I am sure that these sorts of lists could be made for a number of countries. I just wonder how it fits into travel topics. -- (WT-en) Huttite 05:48, 31 Jan 2005 (EST)

 * Funny, I just read about this yesterday... I also wonder if it's just a list for lists sake, but maybe it's just an everyman's World Heritage List? (WT-en) Majnoona 09:18, 31 Jan 2005 (EST)

 * Thanks for the comments, just starting out here. In relation to how it fits into travel topics, I honestly hadn't thought about it in any depth, but on consideration I think it might fit into the category of Sights. Maybe even writing up a guided tour from Big Thing to Big Thing (how to get from one to the next) might be appropriate to fit into the another way of seeing travel.. Unfortunately I've seen too many of these big things, however what prompted me for adding this list was from starting the Goulburn page. Would love more feedback on this. (WT-en) Arcae 16:57, 31 Jan 2005 (EST)

 * I started looking at another list of big things and discovered that what appear to be the vast majority of them are along the great dividing range, which just happens to be the place where most of the roads australian motorcyclists dream about are located. I'm currently planning a 7000km 3 week motorcycle holiday from Melbourne to Bundaberg and return to be taken in June 2006 where I shall visit as many of the Big Things as possible.  Currently I have over 70 on my list and I am searching and finding more every day. —The preceding comment was added by 203.57.241.95 (talk • contribs)

 * Please capture these treasured memories for us all to see... I am excited to do a similar trip on my return to Australia.. —The preceding comment was added by 220.146.170.245 (talk • contribs)

Submarine
The submaring in Holbrook (New South Wales) is not a big thing, it is an actual submarine. No bigger or smaller than real thing. I'm removing it from this list. --(WT-en) Inas 21:02, 5 January 2009 (EST)

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Big Rainbow
Probably can't list until ready, but Daylesford will soon (as of March 2024) have a Big Rainbow Andrewssi2 (talk) 20:15, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

title: Talk:Australia's big things