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Talk:Andhra Pradesh

This is a large region and should be split up into separate pages... (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:53, 25 Sep 2004 (EDT)

Copyvio
9 Oct 2004: The original content of this page was a copyvio from http://www.indtravel.com/andhra/andra_places2.html. It has since been blanked and re-created.

Regions of AP
This seems to be an easy one. Wikipedia:Category:Regions of Andhra Pradesh is helpful here. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 08:03, 1 March 2007 (EST)

Copy attribution
Additions to this article have been copied from User:Northamerica1000/Sandbox. The content at the sandbox was transwikied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Andhra_Pradesh to this article (English Wikipedia diff page, Wikivoyage diff page), but due to formatting concerns, I userfied it to my sandbox page. Northamerica1000 (talk) 00:07, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

"Cities"
With the addition of the new capital, there are now 10 cities listed in the "City" section. According to the 7+2 rule, there should be 9. So which city would be best to remove? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:10, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

 * Any discussion, please? I'd like this issue to be resolved before I update India Expedition/Andhra Pradesh and the Andhra Pradesh section of India Expedition. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

What happened to Amaravati?
Is it no longer capital of the state? If it is, shouldn't it still be in the "Cities" section? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:00, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

Which 9 "Other destinations"?
There are currently 15 "Other destinations" listed:

 * — Araku valley offers scenic beauty of the hills and greenery, interspersed with streams and rivulets
 * — a network of natural underground caves in shale/slate rock partly explored
 * — a hill station and summer residence of British governors
 * — a scenic town with several temples and hills offering trekking opportunities
 * — a temple of Sri Ganesh
 * — a temple of Sri Raghavendra Swamy
 * — located in East Godavari and West Godavari includes such mammals as tigers, leopards, sambar and spotted deer, bison and others. Reachable by boat from Rajahmundry
 * — second largest brackish water lake in India
 * — village and home of the guru Sathya Sai Baba
 * Simhachalam — abode of Sri Lakshmi Nrusimha swamy
 * — a park and biosphere reserve noted for its many waterfalls
 * — a barrier island which houses India's only satellite launch center
 * — one of the ancient places of Hindu pilgrimage and the site of the ancient Lord Shiva temple
 * — one of the Jyothir Linga Temples (Lord Shiva)
 * — ancient temple, a gateway to Srisailam

Which ones should be removed, in keeping with Avoid long lists? Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:06, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Since "Other destinations" is for stuff that are not settlements, I would keep Araku Valley, Belum Caves, Kolleru Lake, Papikonda National Park, Pulicat Lake, and Sri Venkateswara National Park. The remainder should be removed as they are settlements and should be listed at "Cities" instead. Therefore, I go forward and do it. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:00, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I will do the same thing for its regions, and if necessary, I will divide them into smaller regions. Rayalaseema is a good candidate for splitting further into regions. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:03, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm delighted to trust you to pick the 5-9 most interesting cities and other destinations, just not more than 9. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I've already implemented my proposal, along with several others. See the Andhra Pradesh article. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 08:16, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Reorganisation of regions
Southern Coast (Andhra Pradesh) has too many listings, while Northern Coast (Andhra Pradesh) has oddly few listings. I think these two regions should be redefined to balance the number of listings between them. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:34, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

 * Since there are no comments regarding it, I'll plunge forward to restore the region borders before district reorganisation. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 05:54, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Andia

Please cancel this article. The name isn't Andia. The name is Andria.

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Talk:Andong

Tidied up, and expanded. Fixed the transport section to talk about Andong, NOT Seoul. Hopefully the tone is also now a little more in line with that of a traveller (as per Wikivoyage's ideology) as opposed to a local tourism bureau. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Snave (talk • contribs) 04:31, 10 October 2010

 * Hi. It's great that you are beefing up articles. Two minor issues I'd like to highlight, though: the Queen mentioned at the "understand" could be clarified. Since it is the Queen, I presume the one talked about is the current Queen of UK (i.e., Elizabeth II), but that may be not so obvious in the future, when some other queen accedes to the throne. And it's best to avoid using first person pronouns such as "I", "me", as has been done at the "do" section when describing the masks (I have already replaced that with something more "neutral" sounding), as no article at Wikivoyage will be completely written by one author in the end, and readers may wonder who that "I" is. You can read more about that no-first-persons policy at here. – (WT-en) Vidimian 14:06, 10 October 2010 (EDT)

 * Cheers for the proofing. Yeah, I added things pretty quickly so I kinda dropped the ball on that one. If anyone knows the details of the story accompanying the masks, or knows someone who knows it, this article desperately needs it. I recall vague details recited to me by a girl with a Korean parent about a lonely lovesick woodworker carving a bunch but dying before finishing the last one (hence the one lacking a jaw) and then the full set of 12(?) getting reduced to the current number in the Japanese invasion, but this is something I feel really needs a more direct source, even if just paraphrased from a tourist brochure, before addition.(WT-en) Snave 07:16, 23 January 2011 (EST)

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Talk:Andorra

External link removed
The following external links were removed because they are a secondary source. These may be useful for contributors. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:59, 25 Nov 2005 (EST)
 * http://www.expatfocus.com/expatriate-andorra/
 * http://www.andorramania.co.uk/

The Legendary Donut Normale
We had a little paragraph under Eat that said:

 * You simply must try the Donut Normale. This is a highly specialized regional dish. At first glance, the Anglophone traveler may assume that due to the linguistic similarity to the English "normal doughnut", that they are the same food. This assumption would be totally incorrect and will definitely mark you as an ethnocentric tourist. The history of this fine food goes back to the era of Charlemagne and his foundation of Andorra as a March (protectorate) or barrier county against the Muslims of Spain. The recipe of the Donut Normale is a closely guarded state secret. Beware of the Andorran bordor patrol as they have been known to conduct full body cavity searches to make sure this cultural treasure is not smuggled into neighboring Spain or France. The best place to experience the Donut Normale is at one of the many (actually there are only 2) truck stops along the main Andorran road (their only road really).

There is only one other mention of the world-famous Donut Normale on the Web, and it is equally vague. My suspicion is that this is an amusing crock, and I'd like to see some more information before it returns to the Andorra page. --(WT-en) Evan 21:56, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)

Airports
"there are daily coach services from the airports in Barcelona and Barcelona in Spain and Toulouse in France to Andorra." I suspect the twofold mentioning of Barcelona was a mistake. Which is the other Spanish airport? LLeida? Girona?

Gas prices
10 euros for a LITER of gasoline? I find that hard to believe....

Gas?
If the writer meant the type that we Brits call "petrol", then that's a mistake. Currently unleaded is about 1 euro a litre, diesel a bit under 90 euro cents. That's about 30% cheaper than neighbouring France, which is why there are often queues of French registered cars at the service stations near the border.

Ski Resorts
This section could be moved down from the top area as it could expand a bit more. It should come after the basic information about Andorra except that it followed naturally from the list of towns since these areas are totally geared around the ski industry.

The Map
The outline map either needs to be updated with some additional towns and villages like La Massana, Arinsal, Pal, Pas de la Casa and Ordino or else a new map ought to be found and replace the existing one.

English
I have visited Andorra in Jan 2008. During my stay there, I have met quite few people who were able to speak English. Actually, almost no one, excluding hotel stuff, spoke English! I guess this worth mentioning. Current statement ("widely spoken") is an overestimation.

 * this is distressing as I was planning a trip there. You say they have extremely limited English skills.... but your own comment proves that you do not possess them yourself, so how can I judge weather you are correct or not?125.212.59.10 12:05, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

 * The previous comment does not state that people in Andorra have limited English ability; it indicates that most people do not speak English here. You don't need perfect professional competence in a language to judge that. Whether you should base your travel plans upon anecdotal evidence is a different question. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:20, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Angeles

Erm...
Angeles is mainly famous as a city full of prostitutes. Yet this is mentioned nowhere in this article. Why? People should at least be warned. (WT-en) Sachabrunel 09:27, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

 * Plunge forward! We've had problems like this before with enthusiastic Filipinos whitewashing their cities, see eg. Talk:Cagayan de Oro. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:32, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

 * (Un)fortunately have never been there. Will add a note though. (WT-en) Sachabrunel 01:46, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

 * I changed the opening paragraph so that the city has an "vibrant adult nightlife" rather than "notorious nightlife" (which is a meaningless phrase -- what does "notorious" mean?!). I hope this denotes the fact that the city is indeed filled with prostitutes.  I agree this should be stressed more heavily since whitewashing an article is not doing a service to tourists.  Not mentioning prostitutes in Angeles is not like mentioning casinos when writing about Las Vegas.  --(WT-en) UCLARodent 21:12, 10 June 2009 (EDT)

Note for editors
Please try to be balanced here. The Lonely Planet pretty much warns against going to the city. If you search for angeles philippines on google you'll see that of the first ten results three are related to the sex trade, with another two related to "go go bars". Now maybe you live there, maybe this is an incorrect impression, but you should at least address it. (WT-en) Sachabrunel 04:44, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

 * I was born and raised in this city and you need not rely only on the GOOGLE search. It's ridiculous because people would believe whatever they see or hear.  Why not go to the city and see it for yourself what this city can offer.  The prostitution thing is exaggerrated and it's only situated in one strip called "Fields Avenue" near the former U.S. Clark Air Base and that's about 1% of the city's land area! Don't put anything defamatory here unless you know yourself how it is living in this place.  Thank you!

 * First, Wikivoyage does not exist to "promote" the city. The traveller comes first.

 * Second, "defamation" is for people, not places — and truth is an absolute defense. Since you're telling us that we should not believe Google, can you tell me what part of (eg.) this page is factually incorrect?

 * Third, this same edit war has been raging on Wikipedia:Angeles City for, um, forever. You're not going to win there, and you're not going to win here. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:42, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

Yes and that's a website... but have you really been in this city? I bet not, cause what you hear is all what you want to believe. It's like generalizing and branding the city as such, when you have no proof to claim as such. There really is prostitution in this city, much like Manila, Quezon City, Cebu and any other Philippine city, name it! So why add this disparaging statement when ORIGINALLY it wasn't there at all? What's your motive? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Diophosphate8 (talk • contribs)
 * I have reverted your edit. You need to achieve Project:Consensus before making a controversial change.  I have no opinion on this matter other than you must first find consensus and second edit the page. -- (WT-en) Colin 19:16, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

 * Las Vegas entry was not called "Sin City" in its introduction. Phuket was never mentioned to be a prostitution city.  San Francisco was never branded as "Gay Capital of the World."  So why call Angeles as such?
 * Las Vegas isn't as fun as that, Phuket is best known for its beaches, most SF visitors are not there for the Gay Scene, and you are arguing with the wrong person. Get consensus or have your edits fail. -- (WT-en) Colin 23:26, 7 June 2008 (EDT)

 * I think prostitution "capital" is a little overblown, and I've reworded the article a bit. But Las Vegas definitely should be called Sin City, and I've added that to its intro. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:23, 8 June 2008 (EDT)

 * Thanks guys, just put the phrase there as a placeholder until someone put something better. Article's looking much more balanced now even with a couple of little changes. (WT-en) Sachabrunel 11:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

Is this an acceptable intro, per wikivoyage guideline?
I don't understand but this certain peterfitzgerald locked this so no one could edit it when in fact he was the one who kept on putting back an intro stating "notoriously notorious nightlife" and all you could read is NOTORIOUS in both intro and understanding sections. Ain't that ironic? Check the history tab and you get what I mean.

Angeles has made itself known as the "Sisig Capital of the Philippines" and it was once called "Las Vegas of the Philippines" for the high concentration of casinos so I think the previous phrases deserve to be there because we are supposed to promote the city, other than the nightlife scene. (WT-en) Diphosphate8 23:08, 6 September 2008 (EDT)

 * I neither know anything nor care about this city. I protected this page because you were edit warring against the existing consensus higher up on this page. Please address your concerns there. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:54, 6 September 2008 (EDT)

So you never care nor know anything about Angeles? How come you like to put back that "NOTORIOUSLY NOTORIUS nightlife" line up there? Seems you like having fun doing it. And scroll up to see what one moderator said - put a phrase there until it gets into something better... and that's what I was basically trying to do. Thanks! (WT-en) Diphosphate8 21:13, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

 * Look, the The traveller comes first. Since Angeles is a place noteworthy for the prevalence of prostitutes, we need to tell the traveler about it -- and clear consensus to do so has been established.  We already have a lede which mentions the historic value of Angeles along with some hint of the problem.  You have no consensus for eliminating, burying, obscuring, or hiding this information. Work on the places to go and things to do in Angeles and stop worrying about this one piece of information we have decided to convey. -- (WT-en) Colin 22:36, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

 * Why don't you talk it out here... come up with a rewrite that you think covers the diversity of Angeles, but that also mentions it's nightlife and prostitution history and problems (which as much as we'd sometimes like to write cheery articles about what we'd hope that a place will become, we can't sweep glaring realities under the rug). Once you've done that others can comment and we'll come to an agreement before putting it into the article – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 23:40, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

I did NOT eliminate or hide any information about that nightlife scene in the intro. What I did was that I added some noteworthy info about it being known for its popular dish and why it was called the Sisig Capital of the Philippines and known for having high concentration of casinos. I just wonder why such one person deleted it and changed it to "being known as NOTORIOUSLY notorious nightlife" instead that the word "notorious" became so redundant. I know what I added may not be something that is acceptable to him nor does it suit his taste, but do you think he has every reason to mess this article up? Any opinions? (WT-en) Diphosphate8 20:45, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

 * Based on your user contributions it seems that your goal with this article is to remove any information that is in any way negative about this city. As many others have pointed out, Wikivoyage is meant for travelers, and that means telling them about the good AND bad of places, yet you have repeatedly reverted other edits and even deleted language meant to find a better balance between positive and negative.  Based on your past edits and seeming unwillingness to come to a compromise I don't see much more that the community can do to work with you.  For my part I thank your for contributing and hope you find other projects that interest you, but I don't see any point in further discussions about your contributions to this article. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 21:20, 8 September 2008 (EDT)

LOL
LMAO, well I'm Filipino, most of my fellowmen (mostly ones who are not open-minded) are like that they don't accept the negative or positive fact(s) of a certain place, thing or person (one example is Ferdinand Marcos, all they think about him is bad :P). In the case of Angeles I must say a person has a right to know what it is known for, it is unfortunately the major red-light district/destination in the Philippines and everyone has a right to know about it ;P. BTW why is it listed as a guide article? it doesn't have maps or pictures. I will try to organize the article, it's kind of messy but I won't remove the adult nightlife infos LMAO. - User:(WT-en) SnappyHip 17:28, 9 March 2010 (GST)

 * Well done SnappyHip. It's not a guide and I have put it down to usable. All the listings need better ogranisation.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 08:32, 9 March 2010 (EST)

Including nearby Mabalacat
The article is somehow a bit outdated, but I am inclined to cover nearby Mabalacat within this page, which seems agreeable than creating a separate article, basing on the arguments made for towns near Dumaguete and my work I done for the towns near Lipa. --TagaSanPedroAko (talk) 03:37, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Angel Falls

Is this an article?
I'm not sure Angel Falls meets the criteria set up in Project:What is an article?, since it is a single destination within a national park. Ronald, can this article be turned into a redirect to Canaima National Park, and the info on Angel Falls moved to the "See" section of that article? To create a redirect, the Angel Falls article can be blanked and replaced with the syntax " #REDIRECT Canaima National Park " -- (WT-en) Wrh2 18:51, 23 Jun 2005 (EDT)

This isn't Angel falls. It is Yosemite Falls in Yosemite National Park.

 * That is not correct. Notice for example that Yosemite is gray granite, not this beige stuff.  And Yosemite granite is worn smooth by glaciers, unlike the folds of the picture. Also, trees when looking up at the falls are mostly pine with a few oaks -- I have no idea what the picture has, but it isn't either. See Image:Yosemitefalls.jpg for comparison. -- (WT-en) Colin 23:06, 29 September 2006 (EDT)

Merge and Redirect to Canaima National Park seems like the right thing to do. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 14:06, 25 June 2007 (EDT)

I agree, merge and redirect sounds good. The area is already overlapping with La Gran Sabana, a whole region in southern Venezuela, of which Canaima is just one national park. (WT-en) Ixer 07:33, 15 August 2007 (EDT)

I agree, but suggest Gran Sabana is also merged into the Canaima article with a redirect if possible, as the national park covers both the falls and the entire region of Gran Sabana (not the other way round Ixer) (WT-en) TimFearn74 15:56, 8 October 2007 (GMT)

I agree. Makes sense. (WT-en) Aidan 00:50, 6 April 2009 (EDT)

 * Agreed with the TimFearn plan. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 05:38, 3 November 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Angel Fire

I'm not sure Angel Fire should have its own page. The whole "town" is basically owned by the resort. Yes, you can sleep there (I have done so and enjoyed it), but you can sleep at lots of other isolated resorts too. It may make more sense to treat Angel Fire as an "attraction" for the nearby small town of Eagle Nest. However, it's a gray area because of our uneven treatment of ski resorts. Opinions? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:20, 3 March 2008 (EST)
 * You may be right there, as you pretty much need to go into Eagle Nest to buy almost anything. Problem is 1) I'm pretty sure there are more lodging options around Angel Fire than in Eagle Nest and 2) people as far away as Dallas have heard of Angel Fire, while Eagle Nest is relatively unknown (no skiing), so I think this should be a redirect to Eagle Nest at the very very least. (WT-en) Texugo 19:03, 3 March 2008 (EST)

Actually Angel Fire has a grocery, art galleries, banks and so forth. None of that in EN (except a new art gallery). Angel Fire has many more places to stay than in EN, also. I've lived between the two since 94. (WT-en) Travelerjjm 12:28, 30 October 2009 (MDT)

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I'll try get this article completed by Thursday if possible, have been meaning to get it done for ages now..!--(WT-en) Disonyxiated 19:52, 5 February 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Angkor Archaeological Park

Other
Great! Just great! I have never visited this incredible site. But one day I hope to do just that. And when I do, I hope to get the most valuable information from this Wikivoyage article. (WT-en) DhDh 09:11, 11 Nov 2003 (PST)

Page Name
The naming of this page is wrong! Angkor is not Angkor Wat. Angkor is the name of the town while Angkor Wat is the name of one particular temple. Most of the information contained in this section is not specific to Angkor Wat, but general information applicable to almost all ruins in Angkor Wat, Angkor Thom, Bayon, etc. Can someone suggest some ways to resolve this naming issue? We do need it to contain general and specific information? (WT-en) Srijith 02:20, 4 Jan 2004 (EST)

You're right, there are some naming issues here. I'd even go so far to say that, according to Project:What is an article? this should all be under Siem Reap, which is where people actually travel to (ie buses, airport, ect) and stay/sleep. I think there is an exception in there for really big parks/historical sites/etc, but it's not a great precedent to set. That said, I'd go along with moving this page to Angkor, I don't know if we'd even need a redirect since anyone searching for Angkor Wat would also find Angkor. Any other thoughs? Thanks for bringing this up.(WT-en) Majnoona

 * I think the offical name of this area is Angkor Archaeological Park--- how's that for an article name? (like Yosemite National Park)It would really help define what is covered, since there are Angkor-related ruins all over northern Cambodia. Plus, we are talking about buying a ticket and what you are actually buying a ticket for is the park. Unless anyone has a big problem with this, I'll go ahead and move the page.(WT-en) Majnoona

 * Angkor or Siem Reap or Angkor Archaeological Park looks ok. Angkor Wat does not :) I just spent couple of days in these regions, so once this issue gets sorted out I can arrange my thoughts and pen them down. (WT-en) Srijith 20:17, 4 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Great! I haven't been there in over a year, and I wasn't taking notes, so please add/update/correct! I'm going to go ahead and move the page. Thanks again for bringing this up...(WT-en) Majnoona

 * Hmm.. the redirect may create problems. The way I see it, Angkor Wat should have a seperate page of its own, where details pertaining to Angkor Wat alone should be mentioned. Links to Angkor Archaeological Park will help users find details of the other places.

 * If we do not have seperate place of Angkor Wat, Bayon, Ta Prohm etc, the page on Angkor Archaeological Park will run long!

 * So in short, my suggestion is to
 * remove redirect of Angkor Wat to Angkor Archaeological Park
 * Angkor Wat page for specific details on Angkor Wat alone
 * Angkor Archaeological Park page for general discussion (like tickets, transport etc.) and links to specific pages (eg. Angkor Wat)
 * (WT-en) Srijith 22:45, 4 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * That's not going to work. As it is, Angkor really shouldn't have it's own page as it is-- see Project:What is an article. I really can't see Angkor having a larger travel article then, say New York (city), but if it really runs that big then we'll have "district" pages like Angkor/Angkot Wat, but I'd really rather wait until we see what we have before doing that. It would be best if we had an Angkor article that people could reasonably print out and take a long-- we don't need a book-- what are you thinking of including? We should certainly have a link to the Wikipedia article for the full history details, but this should really be a traveller's overview and not an archelogical analysis.(WT-en) Majnoona

 * Ok. Understood. One single page for all the sites, it is then. (WT-en) Srijith 01:23, 5 Jan 2004 (EST)

Monk attack
Everybody has a monk picture from Angkor Wat, and here's mine. Is anybody going to throw a privacy rights hissy fit over this one? (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:07, 14 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Electrical bicycles
When I was in Siem Reap two years ago (2006), there was the possibility to rent electrical (battery-powered) bicycles along the road from Siem Reap towards the Angkor. Unfortunately I cannot remember the price I had to pay, and neither if this business is still in operation. If anyone is passing by there, kindly have a look if this information is still valid :). I have added it to this page and also to the Siem Reap page. 155.56.68.220 05:15, 2 May 2008 (EDT)Martin

Get In Information
The Siem Reap article has no information on Angkor Wat, instead linking here as a 'complete article'. The article here, however, has no information on getting in, claiming it is listed in the Siem Reap article. Information on getting from Siem Reap to the Park should, I feel, be included here; if anybody can add it (otherwise I will visit in 6 weeks or so). —The preceding comment was added by T.Adriaansen (talk • contribs)

 * Hi. I hope you don't mind that I moved your new topic to the bottom of the page, where it's more likely to be read by others, and signed for you (please sign posts to talk pages by typing 4 tildes [~] in a row).

 * In any case, I totally agree with you. Information on getting from Siem Reap absolutely be added to "Get in". No question. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:10, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Angola

Problem in the "Stay safe" section
In this section appears this strange sentence: "From my experiences I believe that the most important thing to watch out for are the flyting hippopatamus's that can drop man eating porcupines that WILL NOT STOP for anything including americans!!!!!!!!!!!! "

what's that, a joke? {unsigned|89.96.237.130}

 * Some general silliness that was added a few hours ago. I've reverted it.  If you see other nonsense like that, please don't hesitate to delete it yourself!   - (WT-en) Dguillaime 13:07, 15 July 2009 (EDT)

Regions
Help!

Regionalising a number of the large African countries has proved to be a little easier than I thought it would. Not the case with the vast spaces of Angola. I am really struggling here. Maps: My conclusions so far:
 * Topography
 * Administrative regions
 * Sat Image
 * Ethnic Geography
 * The Cabinda exclave obviously needs to be its own region.
 * There is a large area of savanna, tending towards desert, in the south (quite clear on the sat map). This includes much of Cunene and Cuando Cubango provinces.
 * Most of the rest of the country is scarp woodlands, tropical forest or rainforest, at various elevations.
 * The coastal plain is narrow and does not seem to make much sense as a travel region.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:25, 25 January 2010 (EST)

I tried working on this a few days ago, but gave up. Now I think I have a decent idea of what the country should look like. Here's an idea: As always, this is not precise and boundaries can be smoothed out. One thing I thought about is whether to merge Huila & Cunene with Namibe into a "Southwest Angola" region, as these are visited by overlanders as they lie along the main north-south road in the country and anyone coming from Namibia (or Southern Africa in general) will pass through them. A second change would be to move Lunda Sul with Southeast Angola and call the region East Angola. (WT-en) AHeneen 00:13, 26 January 2010 (EST)
 * Cabinda-obvious, not only is is an exclave but culturally & linguistically different from the rest of the country, has plenty of oil facilities and a secessionist movement.
 * Northern Angola-along the DRC border and (I think) similar to Western DRC (Zaire, Uige, Malanje, Lunda Norte, Lunda Sul)
 * Luanda-populous areas around Luanda (Luanda, Bengo, Cuanza Norte)
 * Central Angola-highlands (white on topo map), Huambo was the last hold-out of opposition until 2002 in the Angolan Civil War, Benguela seems to be a popular destination (Cuanza Sul, Benguela, Huambo, Bie)
 * Namibe-desert on coast (Namibe)
 * Southeast Angola- rural, mostly open savanna with forest near Namibia's Caprivi Strip (Huila, Cunene, Cuand Cubango, Moxico)

 * I haven't done a lot of research, but the above looks pretty reasonable. My biggest concern would be whether Namibe could stand alone as a region, so I think the "Southwest Angola" and "East Angola" options provide a better balance. They seem OK based on the roads, topography and tribal breakdowns too. I thought maybe Namibe and Benguela could be combined into a coastal region, but I'm not sure it makes sense - Benguela seems to be much more tied to Huambo and Cuanza Sul than Namibe. (WT-en) Shaund 00:58, 26 January 2010 (EST)

 * Done. I went for the Southwest/Southeast option. As much I liked the idea of a separate desert region as it is so different to the rest of the country, it did not really make sense from a travel viewpoint. till open for comment of course. Very little re-organisation to do as we rather tragically have one city article only :( --(WT-en) Burmesedays 04:50, 27 January 2010 (EST)

I realize it has been a long time since this region discussion happened. But here are several suggested changes: Danny Reese (talk) 21:31, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) The "Central Highlands" region is fine geographically, but the name should be changed to something like "Central Angola" or just "Central". Benguela is definitively not in the highlands.
 * 2) Lunda Norte and Lunda Sul are out of place in the "Northern" region. They have little to do with Zaire and Uige - different landscape, natural resources, flora, languages, cultures, history... They are much more closely related to Moxico and the Eastern Region.  For example, Cokwe is perhaps the most widely spoken Bantu language in the Lundas, and it is also widely spoken throughout Moxico, parts of Bie, and a large part of Cuando Cubango, including Menongue.  But you won't find any Cokwe speakers in Uige.  Uige and Zaire are populated by the Bakongo people, somewhat mixed into the Kimbundu people in Malange - but you won't find any Bakongo and very few Kimbundu people in the Lundas.  So I propose limiting the "Northern" region to Zaire, Uige, and Malange provinces, and either:
 * 3) making Lunda Norte and Lunda Sul their own region (Northeast), or
 * 4) joining Lunda Norte and Lunda Sul to Moxico and Cuando Cubango as the "Eastern" region.

 * Your proposal sounds reasonable. Part of the problems with creating the regions (as you may be able to discern from discussion above) is that no Wikivoyage volunteers involved in the creation of the regions had been to Angola, so the regions were based on deciphering content on the web. My proposal actually called the region "Central Angola" not "Central Angola Highlands"...but I can see from the use of the short dash (before I learned to use the em-dash) how "Central Angola-highlands (white on topo map)..." got turned into "Central Angola Highlands". The page can't be called "Central", because there are probably 500 Wikivoyage pages that can be called "Central" and they have to be differentiated...the only alternative would be "Central (Angola)" which doesn't look as nice or make much sense unless the region is actually referred to as "central".

 * Regarding the second point, again, none of us creating the regions had been to Angola. Dividing every country into regions was an important task, which sometimes (as in this case) got done by people who aren't familiar with the region...especially the case for most off-the-beaten-track nations in Africa. Until there's more content for the country, it probably makes more sense to join the Lundas with "Southeast Angola" and call the page "Eastern Angola" rather than create another region with no content.

 * By the way, do you know anything about the state of the railways in Angola? I had worked on the Angola & Luanda pages a few years ago and the railways were supposedly being rehabilitated by the Chinese...are either of the two southern lines open yet? AHeneen (talk) 03:42, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks AHeneen. Who is capable of changing the regions now? For example, it means the map needs to be redrawn, even for a minor name change. Railway notes in the next section. Danny Reese (talk) 08:44, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I've gone ahead and moved the page to Central Angola & fixed reference on Angola page. I've also add a request to fix the map at Regions_map_Expedition & Requests for maps, although it's hard to say how long it will be until the map gets fixed.AHeneen (talk)

 * Thanks, good work. Danny Reese (talk) 17:48, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm feeling mappy—I'll do it. --Peter Talk 19:20, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks Peter. Did you catch that there are two proposed changes to the map? 1) Change the region name from "Central Angola Highlands" to "Central Angola". 2) Limit the "Northern Angola" region to the provinces of Zaire, Uige, and Malange, moving the provinces of Lunda Norte and Lunda Sul to join the provinces of Moxico and Cuando Cubango as the new "Eastern Angola" region (which replaces the Southeast" Region). For this, you'll need to have a province map handy.  Let me know if you have questions. Danny Reese (talk) 20:43, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I have now updated the map—let me know if I got anything wrong. The articles will need updating now, though, both to change the names on this page, but to also update everything that links to the outdated names, as well as the breadcrumbs in the articles contained by the old/new regions. --Peter Talk 01:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

I think everything is in order now: AHeneen (talk) 03:24, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Region names changed on Angola#Regions
 * Region pages moved
 * Links & breadcrumb links to Central Angola Highlands & Southeast Angola fixed
 * No articles in Northern Angola were in region moved to Eastern Angola
 * Region categories for Central Angola & Eastern Angola created, with old named categories redirected

Railway revival
I've heard from BBC News that the Caminho de Ferro de Luanda (CFL; Luanda Railway) is rehabilitated by the Chinese Railway Construction Company. For more information, see the article "Angola's railways back on track" on the BBC News web site. (WT-en) CurvyEthyl 22:45, 16 September 2010

 * I typed the info from the BBC News article into the train section, just in case any reader wants to know.

(WT-en) CurvyEthyl 17:57, 17 September 2010

The 3 railways are all functional to some degree now. I don't have exact info. Cargo trains travel regularly on many sections of all three rails. The Northern rail has passenger trains on a regular (daily) basis in the Luanda area, and I think carries passengers all the way to Malange. The Central rail carries passengers twice a week from Huambo to Kuito and Luena (Moxico), and vice versa. I am not certain about the passenger lines between Benguela and Huambo, I'll try to check on that. The Southern rail is functional in some areas but I'm not sure which. That's all I know right now.

By the way, my editing time is very limited, so I won't be able to do much on the main Angola page. As I have time, I'll fill in the city sections, starting with Huambo, where I live. But it'll be slow. Danny Reese (talk) 08:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I've been adding some information about railways too. As I understand it the Luanda Railway between Luanda and Malanje is fully operational with passenger trains. The same for the southern line, the Moçâmedes Railway, between Namibe and Menongue. Traffic is however still quite sparse. There's a few branches to mining communites that are not yet operational - but they're of quite limited use to most travellers. As for the central Benguela Railway traffic is open between Lobito and Kuito. The stretch between Kuito and the DRC border is still beeing upgraded. --Jonte-- (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I'm not an outline.
The Angola travel guide isn't an outline anymore. --(WT-en) CurvyEthyl 22:10, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Per Project:Article status, please update it as appropriate. Only star nominations need to go through any formal process to have their status changed. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 23:44, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

 * This one still is an outline per Project:Country guide status, though. I'd say at the very least Luanda, Lubango, and Kissama would need to be usable, and the latter two are not. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:50, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

How safe is Angola?
In the "stay safe" section, it begins by saying "you shouldn't travel within Angola without the assistance of qualified personnel", but it never really explains why this is the case. Most governments do not advise against travel to Angola, and I'm struggling to find much evidence for it being any more dangerous than, say, South Africa. If someone who has experience of Angola could either remove the statement or provide some more reasoning for it, I think it would improve the article. Unnachamois (talk) 00:25, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

 * I just saw this and was going to ask the same. What is qualified? I guess they just mean a guide with local knowledge (which is actually a good thing to have). I'm also not convinced it is a requirement though. Does anyone else have experience of this? Andrewssi2 (talk) 15:37, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't, but just a quick google search does show several governments warning against travel in parts of the country (Cabinda, North Lunda and South Lunda) and advising high caution for the rest, not only for potential civil unrest or crime but also for landmines., . That's mentioned in the rest of the section, but I imagine it might be one of the ideas behind the "qualified guide" notion. JuliasTravels (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps qualified guides know how to avoid the "flyting hippopatamus's that can drop man eating porcupines" referred to in the first discussion above. Texugo (talk) 16:44, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Such a qualification would be valuable given those specific circumstances. I have however taken the liberty to rephrase until such time that we are confident that the man eating porcupines shall pose an appropriate hazard. Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions
Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 12:38, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Moved to the top of this page. Ground Zero (talk) 04:07, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Ang Thong

TAT Listings
Moved the TAT listings to Talk:Ang Thong/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 00:45, 3 February 2010 (EST)

Banner
The banner shows a Buddha statue from a temple in Chaiyo district, Ang Thong province. It would fit for an article on the province, but not for the town Ang Thong. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 14:24, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Thanks for making that point. Also, please feel free to make another banner or suggest a good source image for another one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:29, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:Ang Thong


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Talk:Ang Thong/Listings

TAT listings
Some listings from TAT here that cluttered the main page. If you have visited one of these listings, put it back in the main article and add your own personal traveler experience.

Amphoe Mueang

 * Wat Phinitthammasan is located on the east bank of Chao Phraya River in Tambon Bang Plakot on the route of Ang Thong - Pa Mok - Ayutthaya Km 15. Its former name was “Wat Krasop”.  Main attractions are the old wihan constructed in the late Ayutthaya period and the large seated Buddha image made of plaster in the posture of subduing Mara built in the first Chiang Saen batch with the lap width of approximately 12 meters, enshrined in the open.

 * Wat Ratchapaksi (Nok) is located on the east bank of the Chao Phraya River. Take Highway No. 309 (Ang Thong to Ayutthaya) Km 52-53 from Amphoe Mueang 3-4 kilometers to the south.  In this temple, there is a large reclining Buddha similar to the one enshrined in Wat Pa Mok, but of a little smaller size.  The image was assumed to have been constructed during the Ayutthaya period.  The original image was badly ruined and was renovated as shown.  There is another Buddha image built during the reign of King Songtham, approximately in 1620, which was formerly placed on the bank of the Chao Phraya River.  Prior, the image was fallen into the river, Phra Maha Wichian Khannak and Buddhist devouts moved the image to the current temple in 1947.  Later the construction of wihan had been completed in 1959 after struggling through various obstacles.  The image was then renamed as “Phra Rod Wachira Molee” and has been remained for everybody to worship and pay homage.
 * Wat Suwansewariyaram is located on the east bank of the Chao Phraya River in Tambon Taladkruat. Take the Asian Highway (Highway No. 32) Km 103-104 or 3 kilometers from Ang Thong City Hall along the irrigation canal road.  The wihan houses approximately 20 meters in length of a reclining Buddha image.  Other ancient relics are about 100 years old.
 * Wat Mathurotsatiyaram is located on the Asian Highway (Highway No. 32). From Asian Highway, when passing the intersection to Ang Thong province for approximately 500 meters to Nakhon Sawan province, turn right into PTT gas station for about 30 meters.  This temple is formerly called “Wat Kuti” locating on the bank of the Prakamthong River, an ancient river currently called the Chao Phraya River.  This temple was assumed to have been constructed in the late Ayutthaya period.  The only evidence remains are crystal wall, ubosot, chedi, and wihan standing on the appropriate positions with magnificent figures.  The 4x8 meters ubosot is built in the Chinese junk figure using brick and plaster, and the 6-meter roof is covered with fire-clay tiles.  Luxurious arts of the ubosot are the carved angel pressing his hands together on top of lotus motifs in the center of front and back gables.
 * Wat Chantharangsi is located in Ban Na, Mu 9, Tambon Huaphai from the Asian Highway intersection entering Amphoe Mueang approximately 1 kilometer. When you see the sign of the road, take another 1 kilometer to reach this temple.  Areas of this temple cover both sides of the road.  On one side, there is a sacred Buddha image called “Luangpho Yok”.  On the other side, it locates wihan of Luangpho Sod which houses the metal image, the largest of its kind in the world, was constructed in 1996.  This golden Buddha image has a lap width of approximately 6 meters and 9 inches, and a height of 9.9 meters.
 * City Pillar Shrine is opposite to Ang Thong city hall. The height of the shrine is 1.5 meters.  This is the second city pillar shrine having mural paintings on the four interior walls.  (The first city pillar shrine with mural paintings is City Pillar Shrine in Bangkok.)  Ang Thong City Pillar Shrine is an exquisitely sacred place appropriate as a focus of victory and people’s heart.  Do not miss to pay homage to this city pillar shrine when visiting this province.

 * Aquarium is near the intersection in front of Ang Thong Provincial Prison. Here you can find a lot of huge Amazon serpent-headed fish and other native fish like rad (gouramy), sawai (genus Pangasius), thepo (genus Pangasius), etc. for the tourists’ pleasure.
 * Wat Ang Thong Worawihan is located on the east bank of the river. This is the third-class royal monastery opposite Ang Thong City Hall.  Originally, there were 2 small temples located next to each other called Wat Pho Ngoen and Wat Pho Thong constructed in the reign of King Rama IV.  Later in 1900, King Rama V had these 2 temples combined into one and graciously named it “Wat Ang Thong”.  This temple is famous for its beautiful ubosot and bell-shaped chedi decorated with gold mirror.  Groups of neatly lying Thai monk’s compartments are made of teak exhibiting the arts in early Rattanakosin period.
 * Wat Tonson is located on the west bank of the Chao Phraya River opposite Ang Thong Technical College. Wat Tonson is an ancient temple housing Somdet Phra Si Mueangthong, a very beautiful seated Buddha image in the posture of subduing Mara with the lap size of about 14 meters wide and 19 meters high moulded in metal and gilded.  Wat Tonson’s abbot, Phra Ratchasuwanmalee, started the construction in 1973.  Her Royal Highness, Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn performed a ceremony to complete the construction on March 7, 1985.  This is regarded as one of the largest metal moulded Buddha images with beautiful posture.
 * Thai-Style house models, prefabricated parts, and Toddy Palm furniture. Follow Ayutthaya, Pa Mok, and Tambon Phosa route, this is a center producing Thai-style house prefabricated parts of all types by sophisticated handicraft inherited from the ancestors to remain Thai-style uniqueness. Besides, there are Thai-style house models and furniture made of several types of Toddy palm trees available for pale.
 * Wat Plotsat is located in Ban Hae, Mu 4, Tambon Ban Hae, approximately 7 kilometers from the downtown of Ang Thong province, taking Highway No. 3501 Km 3-4. In the temple compound, there is a tower made of brick, whose unique summit is covered with Ceylon-style chedi pagoda seen from a distance.
 * Somchit Roengpho Mixed Orchard is located at Mu 2, Tambon Khlongwua, Amphoe Mueang, taking Wat Channimit entrance for approximately 3 kilometers. This orchard was accredited with Mixed Orchard and 2001 International Feminine Farmer Awards.  Khun Somchit grows mixed fruits on the land of 13 rai (5.2 acres) and rice fields on the land of 10 rai. (4 acres) She emphasizes on growing several mango seeds e.g. Setthi, Thawai, Choke-Anan, Nam Dok Mai Mon, and pamelo and Citrus nobilis.  To visit the orchard or get more information, you can contact Khun Somchit at Tel. 0 81818 1450.

Amphoe Pa Mok

 * Wat Tha Sutthawat is located on the east bank of the Chao Phraya River in Tambon Bang Sadet. This ancient temple was constructed in the early Ayutthaya period.  During the war, this site was the trooping route for the army crossing the Chao Phraya River.  Take Ayutthaya – Ang Thong route (Highway No. 309) Km 38-39, the temple entrance will be on the left side approximately 17 kilometers before reaching downtown Ang Thong province.  At present, this temple is under the royal patronage of Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn.  The temple compound is shaded with large trees exhibiting magnificent scene over the bank of the Chao Phraya River.  The royal pavilion stands in the middle of the pond.  Chedi (pagoda) exhibits ancient Buddha images and historical relics.  Monuments of King Naresuan the Great and King Ekathotsarot are besides the pavilion.  Inside the ubosot, Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn had her personal painters and drawers from the Royal Folk Arts and Crafts Project draw the mural paintings illustrating Phra Maha Chanok, history of Ang Thong province.  Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn graciously drew a mango on this temple wall as well.
 * Ban Bang Sadet Court Doll Center is a high raised Thai house behind Wat Tha Sutthawat in Tambon Ban Bang Sadet. The former name of this Tambon was Tambon Ban Wattan.  When Their Majesties the King and the Queen visited and offered help to those who suffered from flood in 1975, the people were overwhelmingly pleased with their Majesties’ presence and contributions.  In remembrance of their gratitude to Their Majesties, the people approvingly changed the name of Ban Wattan to Ban Bang Sadet. The establishment of Ban Bang Sadet Court Doll Project was initiated by Her Majesty the Queen in 1976.  Its main purpose is to help the villagers earn supplementary income.  Besides admiring the shaded and magnificent scene over the bank of the Chao Phraya River, visitors can observe court doll production in the friendly villagers’ houses. Center of collaboration in the form of a co-operative system resides at Ban Bang Sadet Court Doll Center.  Some project members will demonstrate court doll making and the products on sale are available at fair price.  Court dolls are the exotic clay invention displaying Thai-style course of life and culture, e.g. Thai kids’ recreation, Thai orchestra or various types of Thai fruits appropriate as souvenirs.  Contact number of Court Doll Production and Sales Center is Tel. 0 3566 2995.

 * Wat Sa Kaeo is located in Tambon Bang Sadet approximately 200 meters away from Wat Tha Sutthawat along the irrigation canal road. If travel from Ayutthaya using Ayutthaya – Ang Thong route (Highway No. 309) Km 39-40, entrance to the temple will be on the left side.  This temple was constructed in 1699 when it was originally named “Wat Sakae”.  This temple has become the orphans care center with many children under supervision. Therefore, Wat Sa Kaeo Orphanage Li Gay troupe has been established for earning income to cover the expenses in bringing up themselves, which in turn makes this temple become well known.  Inside Wat Sa Kaeo, there is “Samakkhisamakhan” building, which is a center for hand woven fabrics project under Her Majesty the Queen’s initiation established in 1981, currently under the supervision of Cottage Industry Section, Ministry of Industry.  Also, there are good-quality woven clothes e.g. sarong, bathing cloth, etc.  In front of the temple is the location of Amphoe Pa Mok Cultural Center, providing demonstration of weaving, silverware and court doll production, and agriculture produce from housewives e.g. banana.  This represents the dissemination of Amphoe Pa Mok workmanship skills to be known and sold to the public.  Both attractions are open daily from 8 am. – 4 pm.  For more information, please contact Wat Sa Kaeo at Tel. 0 3566 1169, 0 3566 1273 or Wat Sa Kaeo School at Tel. 0 3566 1950-1 or email: Wat_Sakaew@hotmail.com.

Due to the erosion on the riverbank near wihan, King Sisanphet III commanded Phraya Ratchasongkhram to lead the removal of Buddha image from the riverbank. King Thai Sa controlled this removal and invited the Buddha image to enshrine in the new wihan in Wat Talad, 168 meters away from the river. Later the King commanded to merge Wat Talad and Wat Chipakhao into one temple and renamed as “Wat Pa Mok” due to the abundance of Wrightia religiosa (Mok) trees all around. Besides the reclining Buddha, this temple is famous for wihan Khian, where the wall confronting to the river has a tall stand formerly used by the King, mondop of 4-foot prints, and tower of monastic library, etc.
 * Wat Pa Mok Worawihan is located in municipal Tambon Pa Mok on the west bank of the Chao Phraya River approximately 18 kilometers away from Amphoe Mueang. Take Highway No. 309 (Ang Thong – Ayutthaya route) at Km 40, and then take Highway No. 329 and 3501 to find a signage to Wat Pa Mok.  In the temple compound, there is a beautiful gilded reclining Buddha made of brick, and plaster.  The image is 22.58 meters from the topknot to the feet.  It is assumed to have been constructed in the Sukhothai period.  Legend of this Buddha image was that he floated along the river and sank in front of this temple.  People offered sacrifices to the Buddha image before pulling him from the river to house on the riverbank.  In the royal chronicle, it is mentioned that before leading his army to attack Phra Maha Upparacha, King Naresuan the Great stopped at this temple to gather his troops and paid homage to the image.

 * Wat Thanon is located in Tambon Phongpheng. From Amphoe Pa Mok, passing municipal market to the inner route of Pa Mok – Bang Ban (Highway No. 3501) Km 19-20 approximately 7 kilometers, you will find Wat Thanon.  This temple was constructed approximately in 1780 in the Thonburi period.  A wooden Buddha image in the standing posture, carved in a human size of approximately more than 2 meters, is enshrined in the wihan called “Luangpho Phraphut Rampueng”.  From the chronicle, the raft with the Buddha image floated along the river and stopped in front of this temple and did not go any further.  Phra Thong Yu, the abbot in that period, found that there was an engraved wooden Buddha image in the raft. Therefore, he offered sacrifices to the Buddha image before moving him from the river to house in the temple.  People, who pay homage to this temple, like to make wishes and prove them by placing the eggs in front of the Buddha image.  Whoever can make the egg stands, he/she has good luck.  Offerings of boiled eggs, a play, and garland are used as the means to redeem a vow to the Buddha for the wishes that have been made.  Other attraction is the floating 100-year Buddha’s footprint of 30”x70” in engraved wood on the ceiling of the temple hall.

 * Drum-Making Village is located in Tambon Ekkarat, behind Pa Mok market on the west bank of the Chao Phraya River. Take the inner road passing Amphoe Pa Mok Municipality Office running parallel to the irrigation canal for approximately 17 kilometers.  From time to time, drum shops can be found on both sides of the road.  People of Ban Phae have begun producing drums since 1927 after the harvesting season.  The raw materials used are cowhide and rain tree wood because its texture is soft and able to be dug easily.  We can observe drum-making procedures starting from lathing wood, laying cowhide sheet, and embedding pins.  We can find sophisticated and magnificent drums here in various sizes, good for souvenirs.  If you go passing the Tambon chief (Hongfah Yodyoi)’s house, you will find the largest drum in the world of 36”92 centimeters wide and 7.6 meters long, made of 6 pieces of connecting Albizzia lebbek. It was built in 1994 and taken about one year to finish it.

 * Ang Thong Bricl is a high quality household industry for domestic sales. Most people use this kind of brick to decorate external parts of the buildings and houses.  Those who are interested can buy the bricks directly from the factory.  There are more than 42 factories in Amphoe Pa Mok along Highway No. 3501 Km 1-9 and Highway No. 309 Km 43-47.

 * Phanthai Norasing Monument is located in Wat Norasing, Mu 2, Ban Taphun, Tambon Norasing, taking Highway No. 3501 (Ang Thong – Pa Mok – Ayutthaya route) Km 9-10. This monument was built in 1988 to commemorate the steersman of Ekkachai royal barge in the reign of King Phrachao Suea.  The steersman confirmed to receive an execution for not able to control the barge well enough and let it bump into branches and broke the royal barge front.  He believed this would prevent the next generation from doing the same mistake.  Hence, his decision has been appraised until now.

Amphoe Chaiyo

 * Wat Phohom (Wat Pahuaphan) is located in Tambon Ratchasathit (Tambon Tanot) on the west bank of the Chao Phraya River. It is 12 kilometers from Amphoe Mueang Ang Thong.  Taking Ang Thong – Sing Buri route at Km 68-69 and turn at the intersection for 1.5 kilometers.  Originally, this temple was constructed in the Ayutthaya period and was left deserted.  The temple was rebuilt 10 years ago.  Attractions in this temple are 2 large stucco of four-face Bhrama heads, found from the excavation of this temple placed on trays beside chedi.  The object reveals original workmanship of a Khmer-style sculpture.  It is assumed that those heads were the top parts of either the temple gate or the ubosot gate similar to the one on top of the palace gate in Ayutthaya period. Moreover, the new abbot’s compartment displays a mixture of Asian and European arts.

Wat Saket is an ancient temple, built in the Ayutthaya period, located in Tambon Chaiyaphum, on the east bank of the Chao Phraya River, approximately 15 kilometers from Amphoe Mueang Ang Thong. Formerly, Tambon Chaiyaphum was called “Ban Saket”, administratively reported to Mueang Wiset Chai Chan District. In the Royal Chronicle, it is mentioned that in 1585 when Phrachao Chiangmai led his army to encamp at Ban Saket, King Naresuan the Great and Somdet Phra Ekathotsarot attacked and finally defeated Phrachao Chiangmai’s army. The present King and Queen visited this temple in 1970 to make merit for King Naresuan the Great.
 * Wat Chaiyo Worawihan or Wat Ket Chaiyo is located on the west bank of the Chao Phraya River, approximately 18 kilometers away from Amphoe Mueang Ang Thong, on Ang Thong – Sing Buri route. This is the second-class royal monastery.  Formerly it was a small ordinary temple constructed in the Ayutthaya period with the unknown building date.  Later in the reign of King Rama IV, this temple was noted when Somdet Phra Phutthachan (To Phromrangsi) a revered monk of Wat Rakhangkhositaram in Thonburi constructed a large seated Buddha image in the posture of meditation made of white plaster.  In the reign of King Rama V, His Majesty the King went to worship the image and had Wat Chaiyo renovated in 1887 but the vibration from ramming piles of the wihan caused the large Buddha image to collapse. The king then commanded to build a new large Buddha image following the pattern of the large Buddha image at Wat Kalayanamit. The new one has the lap width of 16.10 meters and the height (from radiance to feet) of 22.65 meters and was graciously named “Phra Mahaphutthaphim”.  There was the biggest celebration for the image ever held in Ang Thong at that time. The moulded statue of Somdet Phra Phutthachan (To Phromrangsi) constructed in 1894, having the lap width of 5 meters and the height of 7 meters, has been enshrined in the wihan facing  the Chao Phraya River. The large Buddha image housed in this wihan is larger, more elegant, and more remarkable wihan than any other, therefore, Buddhists from various parts of the country have continuously paid homage to this image. In front of the wihan, the ubosot facing the Chao Phraya River was constructed using the magnificent Thai architectural design. Inside the ubosot, there are mural paintings depicting scenes of the Lord Buddha’s chronicles painted by the artisan in the reign of King Rama V, and the moulded statue of Somdet Phra Phutthachan (To Phromrangsi) from Thonburi. At present, Wat Chaiyo Worawihan has been renovated to exhibit its distinctive beauty.

Amphoe Pho Thong
Bats at Wat Chantharam: Wat Chantharam is an old temple locating in Ban Chang, Mu 5, Tambon Khok Phutsa, approximately 4 kilometers to the west of Pho Thong District Office. Take Pho Thong – Sawaengha Road for approximately 1 kilometer, then turn left for another 3 kilometers. Inside the precinct of this temple is crowded with trees, which have become habitats for numerous basted birds for centuries. These bats look for food at night, whereas during daytime, they hang themselves upside down along the black-color branches to be seen from distance. Visitors can enjoy visiting them in every season.
 * Wat Ta It is located in Ban Ta It, Tambon Bangphlap, taking Highway No. 3064 Km 7-8. This temple was constructed in 1761.  Originally, this site was for firebrick production and brick distribution center or port for building Wat Khun Inthapramun.  After the completion of temple construction, it has then been called Wat Ta It (temple of brick port).  Villagers called the principal Buddha image in the ubosot as “Luangpho Phetch”, while the principal Buddha image in the wihan was called “Luangpho Khao”.  The latter, once enshrined in wihan “Maha-Ut” was constructed in the Ayutthaya period approximately over 200 years ago. When entering the temple, the outstanding “Phrathat Chedi Sri Phothong” in gold can easily be seen.  Reasons for constructing Phrathat Chedi can be traced back to 1992 when Phrakhru Sukhonthasilakhun (Luangpho Hom) initiated to build the Ceylon – Ayutthaya -Rattanakosin pattern chedi of 40-meter width and 73-meter height in the temple compound.  The octahedron chedi holding bells and divided into 32 sections is to replace the former corroded chedi standing in front of the ubosot.  This chedi is for housing the relics of Buddha’s neck as well as various Buddha images in different postures, which represents the religious treasures in commemoration of Lord Buddha’s kindness for preaching mankind to have good faith, concentration, and wisdom in order to achieve the virtue based on individual’s ability.  Later in 1995, Phrakhru Sukhonthasilakhun, acknowledged of King Bhumiphol’s sickness at the beginning of this chedi’s construction, had made a strong wish praying for His Majesty the King’s recovery in exchange for a construction of this chedi as a donation. His Majesty the King then named this chedi “Phrathat Chedi Sri Phothong”.  Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn presided at the opening ceremony of this chedi in 2000.
 * Wickerwork Village: Ang Thong’s renowned wickerwork is mostly produced by the community of Amphoe Pho Thong. Almost every house situated in the vicinity along both sides of the Chao Phraya River establish groups of specialization for wickerwork, rattan, and bamboo wickerwork production e.g. Tambon Ongkharak Group, Tambon Bangchaocha Group, Tambon Bangrakam Group, Tambon Phlap Group, and Tambon Inthapramun Group. The noted wickerwork area of the province is in “Ban Bangchaocha” locating at Mu 8, Ban Yangthong, Tambon Bangchaocha.  The wickerwork from this village is made of bamboo.  Her Royal Highness Princess Maha Chakri Sirindhorn visited this village and advised people to grow Sisuk bamboo as for their raw materials and for conservation of this handicraft category.  Wickerwork from this village is well known for its extraordinary fineness and beauty besides being produced to meet the market demand.  It does not stick only to the old typical design which enabling it to produce for export.  This village has been recognized as a pattern for career development. In this village, there is a museum exhibiting a collection of tools and native equipment made of bamboo. How to get there: Take Ang Thong – Pho Thong route for approximately 9 kilometers to Yangmani Irrigation Canal.  Then turn right and go along the canal for approximately 5 kilometers before turning right into Wat Yangthong Road. The handicraft center is behind the temple.

 * Wat Khun Inthapramun is located in Tambon Inthapramun. It is an ancient temple constructed in the Sukhothai period.  Considering the original line of brick remains, it is estimated to be a large temple.  The largest and longest reclining Buddha in Thailand, 50 meters from the topknot to the feet, is enshrined here.  Originally, the reclining Buddha image was housed in the wihan, but this temple was on fire and was left deserted with the Buddha image in the open for centuries.  The image features and size are similar to those of Phranon Chaksi, a reclining Buddha image in Sing Buri Province.  Therefore, it is assumed to have been constructed in the same period. The image possesses attractive Buddha features with a serene smiling face attracting respectfulness and faithfulness from people.  Thai kings went to pay homage to the image e.g. King Borommakot in 1753, King Rama V in 1878 and 1908.  The present king came to present the royal Kathin robes in 1973 and again in 1975.  Buddhists from all over the country always make their visits to worship the image. Moreover, within Wat Khun Inthapramun compound, there are historical remains of basement, some parts of walls, and Buddha image in Luangpho Khao wihan.  Inside the all-purpose pavilion, there is a statue of Khun Inthapramun and the skeleton found in the wihan of the reclining Buddha image in 1998 lying on his face with his hands and feet tied up.  People believe that this skeleton is of Khun Inthapramun, but some say it is not. According to the legend, Khun Inthapramun was a revenue officer who secretly embezzled the government tax to build this reclining Buddha image as a holy object. When the King asked how he obtained the fund from, Khun Inthapramun did not reveal the truth because he was afraid that his merit from building the image would be passed on to the King.  He was finally sentenced to death.  And the temple was then called “Wat Khun Inthapramun”. How to get there: This site can be accessed by 3 routes.  Ang Thong – Amphoe Pho Thong (No. 3064), then take a right turn at Km 9 for approximately 2 kilometers.  Or take the route from Sing Buri province to Amphoe Chaiyo at approximately Km 64-65, take a left turn for 4 kilometers to reach the temple.  Or take the new route Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan – Pho Thong (along the irrigation canal road) when arriving at Amphoe Pho Thong, take a right turn for 2 kilometers to reach the temple.

 * Wat Pho Thong is located in Ban Pho Thong, Tambon Khamyat, opposite the entrance of Ban Bangchaocha, 9 kilometers from Amphoe Mueang on Ang Thong – Pho Thong route. In the royal chronicle, Wat Pho Thong was the place where Krommakhun Phornphinit (Prince Uthumphorn or Khunluang Hawat) entered his monk hood.  King Rama VI spent his summer vacation in this temple during his boat trip visiting the Noi River and Yai River in Krungkao precinct in 1916.
 * Phra Tamnak Khamyat is located in Tambon Khamyat, 2.5 kilometers west of Wat Pho Thong on Ayutthaya – Pho Thong Road. At present only four walls of the royal residence remain.  The 10x20 meters royal residence, made of brick and plaster, stands eminent in a paddy field.  The artistic beauty still remains e.g. motifs around the window, front and back balcony, was painted in red soil and covered with wooden floor. Regarding his diary about the trip on the Makhamthao River, King Rama V visited Phra Tamnak Khamyat in 1908, he understood that Krommakhun Phornphinit (Prince Uthumphorn or Khunluang Hawat) entered his monk hood at Wat Pho Thong and built this residence for his lodging during the Buddhist Lent since it was a strategic site.  Having seen that the residence was exquisitely constructed, King Rama V then changed his mind. He realized that Krommakhun Phornphinit should not have had this residence built so exquisitely for a temporary lodging or a stronghold.  King Rama V surmised that this residence might have been constructed in the reign of King Borommakot as his residence during his frequent visits to this area, in parallel to King Prasatthong who constructed his residence in Bang Pa-In.  Due to his preference in this area and paying homage to the reclining in Wat Khun Inthapramun twice, Krommakhun Phornphinit (Prince Utumphorn or Khunluang Hawat) made his loyal subjects and monks to leave Ayutthaya and stayed at Wat Pho Thong Khamyat and Phra Tamnak Khamyat in order to join with Bang Rachan villagers.  At present, Department of Fine Arts has renovated and registered Phra Tamnak Khamyat as a historical site.

 * Fish Park at Wat Khoi is located at the Noi River in front of Wat Khoi, Mu 1, Tambon Pho Rang Nok, 12 kilometers from Ang Thong province. Take Ang Thong – Wiset Chai Chan route, on Highway No. 3151 Km 27-28, you will find the signboard of the Fish Park at Wat Khoi, then turn right to take a short cut along irrigation canal for approximately 2.3 kilometers.  Fish at Wat Khoi have been abundant for 50 years since Phrakhru Sukitwichan (Luangpho Khem) was an abbot.  Later in 1985, Phrakhru Sorakitchaton, the present abbot had the place renovated. With the coordination from the Office of Amphoe Pho Thong Fisheries, this venue was declared as a fish sanctuary. The police will see that the fish are not disturbed.  At present, there are various species of fish living together over 50,000 e.g. sawai (genus Pangasius), rad (gouramy), thepo (genus Pangasius), buek (Pangasianodon gigas), tapian (carp), etc.  Fish feeds are available for visitors to enjoy feeding them.  Beverage stalls are also available. Within Wat Khoi compound, another attraction is an ancient Thai-style teak temple hall of religious instruction built on eight-angle pillars.  Under the temple hall, various kinds of antiques are exhibited e.g. boats from China such as towing boat, sculling boat, Thai-style gondola, and covering boat; collections of tools and equipment used in growing rice e.g. cart, wheel, and plough handle.  Aquaculture harvest equipment like bamboo fishing trap can also be found.  Besides, there are mondop, wihan, chedi, ubosot, monk’s compartment, praying hall, historic remains of ancient classroom and antiques from foreign countries e.g. ancient lamp from Washington D.C., ancient clock from Paris, and teak monastic cabinet from China in the reign of King Rama V, or ancient cradle.  Neighbors in this area established Coarse Rice Production Center in a form of cooperatives for distribution to the public. Local museum displays various kinds of ancient boats e.g. towing boat and sculling boat, and farmer’s equipments e.g. stone mortar, hand rice mill, rice winnowing basket, etc., which clearly review life style of the Thai people in the central region.

Amphoe Sawaeng Ha

 * Bird Sanctuary is located at Mu 2, Ban Riowa, Tambon Ban Phran, 24 kilometers from Ang Thong province. Take Pho Thong – Sawaeng Ha Road (Highway No. 3054) Km 18-19, turn into Ban Tambon Nongmaekai until reaching Nongmaekai School. Then go along the laterite road for 6 kilometers until you reach Wat Riowa.  In this temple, thousands of birds of various species naturally dwell there including the egret, heron, open-billed stork, night heron, cormorant kingfisher, etc.  Certain kinds nearly become extinct and cannot easily be seen in other places.

 * Wat Ban Phran is located in Tambon Sriphran. Take Pho Thong – Sawaeng Ha route (Highway No. 3054) Km 21-22. It is unknown when this ancient temple was built.  Regarding to Luangpu Chaimongkon’s (from Ayutthaya) narration, a couple called Mr. Phan and Mrs. Ngoen and their son, Mr. Krapukthong constructed Wat Ban Phran at the end of Sukhothai era during 1319-1327.  After that, this temple was deserted and was overspread with thick weeds and trees for over 100 years.  When hunters set up small village in this area, they helped renovate this temple.  There is a legend saying that the late rite Buddha image called Luangpho Kraithong enshrined in this wihan was built by King Sri Intharathit in Sukhothai and removed into separated parts for assembly again as the principal Buddha image in Wat Ban Phran.  Since the founder would like to build his own principal image, he constructed wihan to house the Buddha image called “Luangpho Kraithong”.  Krai represents the robe, and shoulder clothes of Luangpho Kraithong. Some fine days at midnight, Krai will turn into sparkling light indicating good luck for those who happen to see.  It is believed to be a sacred one being able to protect the worshippers from danger.
 * Ban Khu Mueang is located in Tambon Ban Phai, 4 kilometers from the north of Sawaeng Ha District and 3 kilometers from Bang Rachan stockade. At Ban Khu Mueang, archaeologists discovered ruins of an ancient city, which presumably existed during Thwarawadi period. Its evidence shows a wide ancient moat and earthen mound, some fragments of pottery, animal bones, beads, and medicine grinding stone.  At present, it is a simple canal without any traces of historical sites.

 * Wat Yang is located in Tambon Huaiphai and is presumably constructed in the late Ayutthaya period. The historical remains to be found now are ubosot with an upward curve base similar to junk, sandstone Buddha images, damaged stucco Buddha images and boundary stones.  About half kilometer to the south of the temple, there is earthen mound where large quantities of amulets were found. Since it is not far away from Ban Bang Rachan, it is presumably a place for hiding precious treasures of the Thai people during that time.

Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan

 * Wat Muang is located at Mu 6, Tambon Huataphan, approximately 8 kilometers from downtown. Go along Ang Thong – Wiset Chai Chan route (Highway No. 3195) Km 29 for 1 kilometer, the temple will be on the left side.  There are several important attractions in the temple.  The ubosot of Wat Muang is surrounded by the biggest lotus petals in the world.  Ground floor of Wihan Kaeo is a museum (open only on Saturday and Sunday during 9 am.–5 pm.) exhibiting sacred objects, antiques, and figures of renowned monks from all over the country.  The upper floor of the museum houses the first and largest silver holy Buddha image of the country, which was constructed in commemoration of the 50th anniversary of His Majesty the King’s throne ascendancy. Within the temple compound, there are figures of heaven and hell, Thai god paradise, Chinese god paradise, and a huge statue of Kuan Im female goddess.  Besides, there are figures narrating the history of Thai-Burmese battle in Wiset Chai Chan. At the back of the temple, there is a fish park where you can also buy some local products of Ang Thong province here.

 * Nai Dok Nai Thongkaeo Monument is located in front of Wiset Chai Chan Witthayakhom School at Mu 2, Tambon Phaichamsin. Follow Ang Thong – Wiset Chai Chan route between Km 26-27 for approximately 1.5 kilometers into Soi Pu Dok Pu Thongkaeo 16.  This monument was constructed by Wiset Chai Chan together with Ang Thong people to commemorate the two heroes of Ban Pho Thalay, Wiset Chai Chan people, and Grandpa Dok and Thongkaeo who sacrificed their lives in the battle with Burmese at Ban Khai Bang Rachan prior to the defeat of Ayutthaya in 1766.  Crown Prince Wachiralongkorn on behalf of His Majesty the King presided over the opening ceremony of this monument in 1977.

 * Wat Khian is another ancient temple locating at Mu 8, Tambon Sanchao Rongthong, near Wat Wiset Chai Chan, which is 12 kilometers from Amphoe Mueang. Follow Highway No. 3454 for approximately 1 kilometer.  Inside the ubosot are exquisite mural paintings featuring stories of 10 former incarnations of the Lord Buddha, which were presumably the workmanship of a painter’s school in Mueang Wiset Chai Chan in the late Ayutthaya period.  The painting features are similar to those painted in the same period being in the ubosot to Wat Ko and Wat Yai Suwannaram in Phetchburi province.

 * Wat Oi is an old temple representing a symbol of Mueang Wiset Chai Chan locating at Mu 10, Tambon Sanchao Rongthong, on the west bank of the Noi River. Follow Highway No. 3454 for approximately 2 kilometers and 1 kilometer from the north of Wat Khian. The temple is assumed to have been constructed in the Ayutthaya period, but there is no evidence by the reign of which king.  The ubosot is a huge building consisting of 6 chambers made of brick and plaster in ancient design.  The roofs were made of wood and covered with fire-clay tiles, as beautiful as the ubosot of Wat Ratchaburana in Ayutthaya.  With Maha-ut design, there is no window in the ubosot.  Special features of the ubosot are the pillars of the gallery in 8 directions.  The principal Buddha image, called Luangpho Dam, is made of alloy of brass and tin.  Wat Oi was used as a venue to hold the ceremony of taking the oath of allegiance to the king in the Ayutthaya period.  In the precincts of Wat Oi, the Children Creation Foundation has provided accommodation for problem children: straying, drug addicted, or illegally behaved. The accommodation is called “Ban Dek Klai Wat” with the purpose of helping problem children to live better life. They can live with the beauty of natural surroundings and monks help to treat them mentally.

 * Wat Siroi is located on the bank of the Noi River, at Mu 4, Tambon Siroi. Follow Highway No. 3454 km.31-32 (on Pho Phraya – Tha ruea or Ang Thong – Wiset Chai Chan route about 12.5 km. kilometers to the west of Amphoe Mueang Ang Thong, take a left turn along the irrigation canal road for 5 kilometers). At Wai Siroi, there is a seated Buddha image in the posture of Pa Lelai, called “ Luangpho To” - 21 meters high and 6 meters wide from knee to knee. Inside of the ubosot, there used to have exquisite mural paintings by the craftsmanship of painters’ school in Ayutthaya.  At present, the paintings have been faded away.

Amphoe Samko
Amphoe Samko is approximately 25 kilometers away from Ang Thong city. Though it was originally a small Tambon reporting to Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan, it was promoted as sub-district and then as district in 1965. For its historical importance, Samko is mentioned in the royal chronicle that the Burmese marched their army from Dan Chedi Sam Ong to encamp in Samko before attacking Ayutthaya City. It is also the place where King Naresuan the Great and Phra Ekathotsarot led the troops to Tambon Traphangtru in Suphan Buri province and defeated the enemy by combat on elephant back.

At present, Samko is well known in its native tradition and folk arts. There are some agricultural areas in Samko converted from rice fields to other agriculture land e.g. lotus field, good species coconut plantations estate, and mixed orchard. Farmers know how to develop their career using new technologies to improve agriculture products in both quality and quantity and to earn satisfactory income. Samko is also a land of native songs where both male and female singers take significant roles in conserving and bringing native recreation and songs back to life.

Festivals

 * Ngan Mueang U - Khao, U- Nam. (City of Rice and Water Bowl Fair) and Annual Red Cross Fair is the annual fair of the Ang Thong people held after harvesting period in late December and beginning of January every year. There are interesting activities like cultural shows, exhibitions, local handicraft sales, display and demonstration, stalls, Mueang U-Khao U-Nam beauty contest, agricultural product contest, farmers’ sports competition, and various kinds of entertainment.  The fair is held in front of Ang Thong City Hall.
 * Long Boat Race Festival at Wat Pa Mok is held within Wat Pa Mok Worawihan compound, Amphoe Pa Mok. The festival is held in 2 periods i.e. the reclining Buddha and the mondop of 4-foot. Prints celebration is held in March; while traditional long boat race festival and the country’s renowned long boat competition is held in October.
 * Paying Homage to Luangpho Wat Chaiyo: In the event, the worship and commemoration of Somdet Phra Phutthachan (To Phromrangsi) and Phra Maha Phutthapim are held in May and November of every year.

 * Loy Krathong at Wat Siro: Every year there will be firework to celebrate Luangpho Pa Lelai, which is the sacred ceremony of Ang Thong people held on the same day as Loy Krathong day.
 * God Kuan-U Invitation and Dragon Parade Procession is held in December every year in Ang Thong market. There will be a ceremony to invite God Kuan-U and, dragon parade procession, and stalls of good-price products.

Buy
Local Products and Souvenirs
 * Seasonal Fruits:	e.g. mango, pamelo, guava, and papaya
 * Aquaculture Products:	 e.g. Macrobrachium rosenbergii, sheat fish, probarbus jullieni.
 * Processed Foods:	e.g. pounded meat and salted egg from Amphoe Chaiyo, smoked fish in stick, sun-dried fish, crispy fish
 * Desserts:		Khanom Keson Lamchiak from Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan and Khanom Kong from Amphoe Mueang are both famous gifts.
 * Handricrafts
 * Furniture model:	from Amphoe Mueang
 * Flowers made from cloth:  from Amphoe Pho Thong and Amphoe Sawaeng Ha
 * Drums and Court Dolls:	 from Amphoe Pa Mok
 * Wickerwork:	                made of bamboo, rattan, and Java weed from Ban Chaocha, Amphoe Pho                          		Thong, and Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan
 * Artificial Flowers:	 from Amphoe Pho Thong and Amphoe Sawaeng Ha
 * Household Utensils:             made of Ceramics and Bencharong from Amphoe Wiset Chai Chan

Amphoe Muang

 * Ang Thong Hotel & Bungalow (อ่างทองโฮเต็ล และอ่างทองบังกะโล) 62 Ang Thong-Pho Thong Road (Tel: 0 3561 1767-8), 8 bungalows: 240-280 baht / 102 rooms: 200-800 baht

 * Bua Luang (บัวหลวง) 1/15 Ang Thong – Pa Mok Road (Tel: 0 3561 1116, 0 3561 1800), 75 rooms: 170-440 baht
 * C.L. Garden Inn (ซี.แอล. การ์เด้นอินน์) 43 Mu 3 Pho Phraya-Tha Rua Road (Tel: 0 3562 0826), 60 rooms: 380-450 baht
 * SIAM INN (สยามอินน์) 41/2 Highway No. 32, Tambon Ban It, 36 rooms: 150-360 baht
 * SUWAPHAN (สุวพันธุ์) 6 Soi 1 Sap Sin Road, Tambon Talat Luang (Tel: 0 3561 1588), 20 rooms: 150-400 baht

Amphoe Chaiyo

 * Chaiyo (ไชโย) 235 Mu 1 Amphoe Chaiyo, 14 rooms: 200-300 baht

Amphoe Pho Thong

 * Pho Thong Inn (โพธิ์ทอง อินน์) 171/17-21 Mu 6 Tambon Ang Kaeo, Talat Kamol (Tel: 0 3569 1139-40), 30 rooms: 350-600 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 19:26, 1 February 2010 (EST)

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Anguilla! what a beautiful place! Spent a week there and never wanted to leave. Having gone with my girlfriend and her parents for the wedding of a local couple they befriended through their many stays on the island, the local hospitality was incredible. The entire island had a small town feel as if everyone knew each other in some respect. Yes there is a lot of poverty on the island, however i never felt out of place...and if i did, having stayed in a villa at Viceroy...I'd have no issue never leaving the resort. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Drtrdr5820 (talk • contribs)

Beginning revisions
Bear with me. I'm beginning to add details, but this will take a while. It's been years since I wrote for Wikitravel and I'm a bit rusty. I hope to do minor additions in Feb 2013, then verify things on my next visit, and polish up format in March 2013.

Any thoughts on organizing hotels? I don't want to have a separate page for each beach and village, but would it make sense to group hotels by general area, as I did in Virgin_Gorda? If I don't do this, and just classify by cost, my inclination is to set Budget at less than US$200 double, Moderate at $200 to $400. Does that make sense?

For restaurants, dare I create a separate category for Beach Places? This would be for the places like Gwen's, Roy's, Nat's Palm Grove, that serve light fare but also provide chairs, umbrellas and restrooms for folks to hang out. I'm inclined to list these places under Eat rather than Drink, because the focus is on food rather than drink.

--RRMarsh (talk) 03:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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 * No FoP in Anguilla, but do we care greatly about this photo? I don't and wouldn't mind simply removing it from the article, but what do you think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:12, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

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avoid raki with fish;

although, this is quite common among the turkish; raki is a type of brandy with strong spicy taste; which is neutralizing the nice, mild taste of soft, gentle meat of fish.

raki is to be taken with meze only(white bulgarian cheese, garbanzoes, watermelons etc)

 * Mmmm, rakı with Turkish melon. This is a good tip, which maybe should go in the Turkey section. Please feel free to plunge forward and add it yourself! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:13, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

Removal of HAVAS Airport Busses
HAVAS had to stop it's services temporarily (most likely, permanently) as Ankara Metropolitan Municipality has taken over the routes. Shall we remove it completely until their legal issues are settled? What do you think? —The preceding comment was added by Hocu (talk • contribs) 15:35, 15 February 2017

 * Since taking the HAVAŞ buses is a very common way to get to the city centres from the airports anywhere in Turkey but Istanbul (and, lately, Ankara, it seems), probably it's better to leave a short note saying they are not available in Ankara, so the readers won't think that option is overlooked at WV, but rather is completely unavailable. Vidimian (talk) 17:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for showing a better way for it. I will mention that it might be back.Hocu (talk) 17:38, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

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 * Some own work concerns. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 12:00, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Just in case, I changed the thumbnail to File:Ankara metro haritasi.png which as far as I'm aware seems to be the best-fitting to our goals among the options at Commons (up-to-date and doesn't show the unnecessary planned/upcoming lines), but unfortunately lacking the suburban rail line.
 * The vote at Commons for the discussed file seems to lean towards a keep currently, but in any case the file has little legibility while in the thumbnail. Vidimian (talk) 15:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Ankara for DOTM
Turkey reaches its centenary in Oct 2023 so Ankara the capital will be a major focus of celebrations. It's easy to access and has lots of visitor amenities and POIs, undamaged by the quake. I therefore intend to pitch it as DOTM, though the page needs work - it's "guide" going-on mid-range usable. Any thoughts here? For example a suitable DOTM banner? Grahamsands (talk) 10:57, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

 * After a quick glance:
 * Per the number of listings, "see" looks more or less complete, although some of the listings need descriptions. I'm not sure which way is better for subdividing them: by attraction types as they are now or by geography?
 * Parks currently listed at "do" are better moved to "see" per wtsi.
 * Ankara has a well-established opera tradition, so that's a candidate to be mentioned at "do".
 * "Buy" needs more variety, e.g. local souvenir shops near the castle (though they are currently mentioned in passing).
 * "Eat" listings need descriptions and perhaps more variety.
 * "Drink" needs a lot more listings. The Bahçelievler/6. Cadde area, relatively recently became hip, isn't mentioned at all.
 * "Sleep": more listings and descriptions.
 * "Stay safe": Are infamous pavyons as shady as they are in hearsay? If so, why not mention them?
 * "Go next" needs a make-over, and more options. Beynam Forest (tr.wp) and Çubuk Dam (en.wp) (recently renovated) might be mentioned somewhere.
 * I don't think there is a need to rush for a DOTM banner. The banner nominations can be submitted after a successful DOTM nomination for the article.
 * Vidimian (talk) 11:34, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

 * I upstaged to GUIDE since this is a prerequisite, and it's already better developed than many pages claiming that status. I proposed it as DOTM with a pic of Anit Kabir since this fits the centenary. Grahamsands (talk) 14:46, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Right, think I'm all done here, enjoy. Grahamsands (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

Add photo?
This is picture of the day at Commons. Use it here? Pashley (talk) 15:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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This page was started by copying the contents of http://www.ankenyhistorical.org/pages/history.shtml. I've removed that copied data, and hopefully we can get this article on its feet. --(WT-en) Evan 15:43, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Annapurna Circuit

Leave no trace
I'm moving some part of the ""leave no trace" section to the Nepal Trekking article since it applies to almost all the treks.

Maoists
Do the Maoists still demand money with menaces from hikers? When I was there (2005) we had to pay a daily bribe to the Maoists. One anti-communist Pole refused, and was severely beaten. 02:23, 13 May 2011 (EDT)02:23, 13 May 2011 (EDT)

Our group did the Manaslu trek and continued on to Jomsom on the Annapurna trek in October/November 2013. We encountered none of this in the 3 weeks we were on the trail. It appears that following the settlement in 2007 or 2008, there has been more stability. Elections in November 2013 may be inconclusive and, if so, may signal more unrest because the Maoist parties could be unhappy with the results. It would be worthwhile keeping up with recent developments. One effect of the pre-election difficulties was the call for a transportation strike (bandh) enforced with threats from the Maoists and their supporters. We had planned a short hike north of Pokhara but because of the strike, there were no buses running. This lasted for 10 days leading up to the election. We decided to abandon those plans, returned to Kathmandu and left for home early.Dave.mcc (talk) 17:06, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Altitude Profiles & GPX Fies
Hey,

I just wanted to let you know I created >20 altitude profiles for the Annapurna Circuit and uploaded most of the treks as GPX files to OpenStreetMap. Feel free to use both the profiles and the GPX. The walking times in the GPX files are calculated assuming 4km distance and +- 300m altitude difference per hour. You can find detailed information on all files in the German Version of Annapurna Circuit. --Kondephy (talk) 18:19, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

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