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Hi Stefan,

Thanks for the welcome message and for the links to guidelines. I plan to keep them in mind.

Sure, I'd add to (or edit in) Pecs and also to other places I'm familiar with, let them be in Hungary or elsewhere. Being a newbie to wikis I have a long way to learn about its structure, sections, editing features etc. Bit by bit.

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Stop touting
You want to add your entry, right? So why do you persist in disregarding the guidelines at Project:Don't tout? If you follow them, your entry can stay up. If you continually disregard them: (1) Your entry will never stay up. (2) Your account may be blocked. It's really that simple. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 12:48, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

Dear Ikan Kekek, I hope it`s now ok!? My motivation to write something about PHEN RESTAURANT, is, that we also like to say "Thank you, Phen, for the nice time we have spent in your place". I hope our adjectives are now ok, for we have compared it with the other comments before we now tried to edite again. We are sorry, for it wasn`t ok before. Peer

 * Thanks for replying. I definitely understand that you want to thank your customers, but you should do that in person. The current version of the entry is better, but: (1) You can't use ALL CAPS in any part of the entry. (2) You can't link to YouTube. Read External links for that. (3) You can't list your price as "fair prices," which could mean anything. (4) You are still including "Khao Lak, Takua Pa, Phang Nga, South of Thailand" in your address. All of that needs to be deleted because since it's in the Khao Lak article, everyone knows it's in Khao Lak. Just include the street address.

 * I would appreciate it if you would make all the required edits yourself. If you don't, someone else will, or might delete the entry again. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 15:58, 25 October 2011 (EDT)

Dear Ikan Kekek, thanks for your help. But what we don`t understand, is, if it could be, that there are different levels in that, which CAPS are ok and which not. If You are checking the caps of the otherone just in this threat, you can see, that they have also a lot of CAPS. For example: delicious dishes,cheap prices, delicious food, nice atmosphere,great food,delicious food as well, high quality cocktails, Great restaurant, New modern styled bar??? We like that this would be possible to change also in our note, for it`s just the true and objective (to read many times in the guestbook of Mrs. Phen): ..., a wide range of delicious food, ..., friendly service in a nice familiar atmosphere. Also available: sunchairs, sunshades & shower, ... Would be this ok? If it would be not ok, you have our permission to delete our note. Please, tell us.

Thanks a lot! Peer

 * Hi, Peer. First of all, to your question about caps: Use them as you normally would: At the beginnings of words in proper names and at the beginnings of sentences. The other issue is that you want to call your own restaurant great, delicious, etc., and you as the owner (manager, whatever) have a vested interest, whereby you are touting your place. So it's really best for you to keep things descriptive and keep the superlatives to a minimum. A more minor issue is that what's familiar to one person is very unusual to someone else.

 * Anyway, you have the same power as anyone else to edit articles, so just go ahead, but try not to sell your place too much; just describe it as accurately as you can, and then you'll be OK.

 * All the best,

 * Michael

Hey Michael, we were also just customers, who found this place May/ June 2011 and enjoyed our time there as well. But we were so thankfull to been there, that we like, that other one could take part also our amazing experience. Many times before we were already in Thailand, but the mix of this all include service of Phen Restaurant was quite the best, what we have had found in Thailand: long quite beaches, romantical ambience, delicious food, friendly service in a familiar atmosphere, personal inside informations about the life by Thai style, intriguing tours by the owner Mrs. Phen, where we had learned a lot of Thailand and his people, relaxing and enjoying the very good Traditional Thai massage, - or just to make a stopover for refreshing, jumping in the sea, taking shower with freshwater, to have a square meal, drinking an ice cold beer and relaxing in the sun (sunchairs & sunshades were free for the customers), enjoying our trip with the motorbike after or before. Nearly every day of our holiday we were there. Just have a positive attitude towards life! So we can recommend it and say: Just enjoy it! That`s really Thai style!

Anykind, we´ve already deleted this all in our note about Phen Restaurant. Also we tried already to describe it as accurately as we can. Only what we like to know, if it would be ok, if we are writing the additions, what we wrote ahead in the first. If not, You can delete our note, for sometimes it`s better to write nothing, than to less.

Thank you for Your comments and we wish you also the best!

 * Peer

 * Fair enough; it is indeed sometimes difficult to tell the difference between a touting member of management or ownership and a delighted customer, but that's why it's important to maintain an appropriate tone. But I don't want you to be afraid to make edits in good faith. Just understand that in any wiki site, whatever edits you make are subject to reediting or deletion. I do apologize if I judged you too hastily because at first you weren't paying attention to things I and other wrote in editing summaries.

 * All the best,

 * (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:41, 27 October 2011 (EDT)

Dear Ikan Kekek, don`t worry. For we are also thinking, that it`s really ok and good, if you take care this forum. And thank you for your help, for we are newcomers here. Just now we are not really be sure, if it is allowed to change this: "..., a wide range of e, ..., friendly service in a nice familiar atmosphere. Also available: sunchairs, sunshades & shower, ..." All the best! Peer

 * Go ahead and put in the edit, but the thing is, I don't know what a "familiar atmosphere" is. That's why I substituted "informal"; I think that's what you mean. The other thing that's confusing is, how does a restaurant also offer massage? That strikes me as unusual, but maybe it isn't unusual in the area.

 * All the best,

 * (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 01:14, 28 October 2011 (EDT)

Hey Ikan, you are a like a teacher :). But it`s ok. "Familiar"? In Phen Restaurant are also working her friendly sister and brother (taxiservice) - and you are feeling after sometimes visiting, that you are also a part of this familiy; also they are offering toys for the kids to play in the sand, that`s why. "Informal" closed together with trad. Thai massage could be missunderstanding - we think so, that`s why we have changed it. There is a small beach house closed together with the restaurant by the same owner. There you can enjoy a really good competent traditional Thai massage. It`s nice to go there. For example after sleeping on the beach, etc.. After you are feeling as new born. If You have a problem or pain in your body, - after the massage you can forget it. :) You see, they have really an all around service! Thanks for understanding! Hope it`s now ok. All the best. Peer

 * Hi again. Just curious, who's the "we" you mention in this post?

 * Anyway, "familiar" doesn't usually refer to "family-like"; instead, the most common usage is to mean "usual." If you're familiar with something, it's commonplace for you.

 * Also, you might want to explain in the listing what you just explained here about the massage taking place in a nearby small beach house under the same ownership.

 * And I am in fact a teacher.

 * (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 18:39, 29 October 2011 (EDT)

Hey, you are really a stringent teacher :) . Are you still teaching in school? But it`s not curious, it`s just my wife - and she has everytime the last word :). And sorry, I think you know it already, our mother language isn`t English, Ok, but I think you know now also, what we are meaning with "familiar". How should it been to write? For we are thinking it`s a special of this restaurant! Also we don`t understand why you are deleting everytime "delicious", - for it is! And you can read this many times also by the other one?! And a special of this beach restaurant is, that they have an all include all around service: delicious food and cold drinks, relaxing and refreshing in the sun, inside information und tours, taxi service, tradt. Thai massage, teaching how to cook Thai food, laundry service. The most of this, we have already reduced.

I didn`t know before, that it is so difficult to write just 2 sentences in the internet. Please, let us find a happy end of that all :) !

Ok, you are the teacher, and you know now, what we were trying to write. Please, help and teach us. Thank you already now for your pleasure! All the best! Peer

 * (1) I've stopped deleting "delicious." (2) I think "informal and friendly" probably comes closest to your meaning. You could say if you become a regular, they treat you like family, but even if that's true, it sounds too much like a sales pitch and I would leave it out. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 11:36, 30 October 2011 (EDT)

Dear Ikan Kekek, thank you so much!!! We are hoping, that everything is now ok. Whow, it was really a hard job! But now I think we`ve found the golden middle. Anykind, that it was true - for they treat us like family, and not only us, every guests had have the same feelings about - we are thinking it´s now also ok, if we are just writing "informal and friendly atmosphere", for then the new guests will be also positive surprised! That is better! Ok, dear Ikan Kekek, thank you for your patience and helping! All the best for you! Peer

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I use the following (WT-en) sandbox for my Wiki projects. Please refrain from editing ongoing projects. Thank you.

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User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2006

Thanks for all the good stuff you've added on Albuquerque. That's rapidly turning into a really high-class article, and you've filled in some gaps in my own knowledge of the city. One thing: you might think about down-selecting to one or two museum photos, as our Project:Image policy generally calls for minimal use of images -- remember that many readers and potential travelers don't have high-speed access to Wikivoyage, and images really eat up bandwidth. Anyway, keep up the good work! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:28, 12 November 2006 (EST)

 * Thanks Bill! I'm still getting the hang of the Wiki, so thanks for letting me know about the images. I took down one of the museum images. Ironically, I uploaded a couple more pictures to the page before I read your post, but I think the new images add a lot to the Albuquerque article, so I think they're okay. If they're not, I'll take them down. Either way, I'll slow down on the image uploading in the future. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 20:50, 11 December 2006 (EST)

Hi Perry. I like the Albuquerque site too. You are a talented 16 year old!(WT-en) FrankEM 17:15, 29 December 2006 (EST) I was only there once and would be no help, but I was just read the comment by Bill about using few images. I read, I think on the main page, that the images make or break a page. Now I am confused. I was adding images like a man man! I guess I should be asking Bill since he made the comment.
 * My e-ears are tingling. :-) Again, I refer you (and User:(WT-en) FrankEM, who's also been doing some fantastic stuff) to the Project:Image policy.  The goal is to have "enough" images to illustrate the text, without "too many" that cause problems for people downloading the page over dial-up or other low-speed lines.  Images require a lot of bandwidth to download, and many of the people we'd like to reach via Wikivoyage don't have that bandwidth.  Hence the minimal-use-of-images policy.  How many is "enough"?  Dunno, and the community has carefully avoided naming an explicit number/limit.  For a page like Albuquerque, I'd think there should be no problem with half a dozen photos plus a couple of maps (which I'm working on, BTW), but getting too deep into double digits might be a bit much.  Just MHO ... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 17:24, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Thanks, Bill. I'm glad you let me know, or I probably would have added a picture of the BioPark and another one of Old Town by now. ;) You're working on maps? Great! I was just thinking about that the other day.

We're having a lovely snowfall in ABQ right now... (WT-en) PerryPlanet 18:21, 29 December 2006 (EST)

Puuhonua O Honaunau National Historic Park
Just FYI, I've reverted (and expanded upon) your edit of the Big Island (Hawaii) pertaining to this place. The reason is that it's not really a "destination" since you can't sleep there, spend more than a few hours without seeing it all, and so on. It's sorta in the same class as Petroglyphs National Monument in Albuquerque -- one of those things you do while you're close by as a result of going to the actual "destination" (Kailua-Kona in this case). The Wikivoyage posture toward "just-passing-through" national monuments is inconsistent, to put it mildly; we have articles on some, but not all. In this particular case I think it is very unlikely that a useful article could result for it, but maybe I'm mistaken. Anyway, it's good that you're looking beyond New Mexico for things to help on. (P.S. A good foot of snow on the ground up here, and more coming tonight -- went XC skiing directly out of our house today, for the first time in several years.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 20:36, 29 December 2006 (EST)

 * Ah, I'm sorry. I was about to make the article, but I forgot the general "if you can't sleep there it's not an article" thing. Thanks for reminding me. I'm planning to go into the Big Island section and add more stuff, since all that's on Wikivoyage now is the page on the whole island, Hilo, and Kona. We definetely need an article for the Volcanoes National Park, there is so much to see there. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 20:58, 29 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2007

See also User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2006 for archived talk.

Main streets in Albuquerque?
Hey John, need your advice. As I mentioned earlier, I've started working on a map for the Albuquerque article, and have some time today (day off) to work on it. You might check out Project:How to draw a map for what this entails. Note that the first part is to sketch in "main streets," and here is where I could use some help. From my point of view these are probably the Interstates; north-south, Coors, Rio Grande, Carlisle, Louisiana, Wyoming, Eubank, Juan Tabo, Tramway; and east-west, Montgomery, Menaul, Lomas, Central, Cesar Chavez (maybe not that "main," but I want to bound the university district, and there are attractions there), Gibson. However, I see Albuquerque from the standpoint of a frequent visitor, not a resident, and one who doesn't visit the entire city at that, just places that I need or want to travel to. Are there any other streets that qualify as "main" that I'm missing and are far enough from the others to show up on a map? (I can make a case for Lead and Coal, but that would make the map fairly "dense" in the university area.)

If you have any experience with Inkscape, maybe you can help here. I'm not fluent with it, to put it mildly, and could always use the help. Even without that, however, a reality check on content would be appreciated. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:46, 9 February 2007 (EST)

 * Well, I did create a map for Belen the other day using Inkscape, so I can totally help out with this map (course, my skills are a little rusty...). Anyway the main streets, let's see...Google Maps is always a nice place to start checking...
 * Okay, north-south you're okay, but you definetely want to put in San Mateo as well (Jefferson should be in there as well, which isn't too hard since it connects with San Mateo). You should also probably put in 2nd/4th Street as well. You might want to also throw in University and/or Yale, because they are big connections from the airport to the downtown/UNM area.
 * East-west...I agree that putting Lead/Coal in there would probably make it too dense, those streets should be treated more like "local" roads. Now, you might want to put in Rio Bravo, Osuna, Paseo del Norte, Alameda, and Tramway east/west (you gotta get up north since that's where the Balloon Fiesta is).
 * Other than that I can't think of anything else...If something comes to mind, I'll let you know. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 02:19, 10 February 2007 (EST)
 * That's excellent, and yes, a look at Belen suggests that you're probably farther along the learning curve already than I am. If you can send me your e-address (use the "E-mail this user" function on the side of the page), I'll forward you the map file as it exists today; we can bounce it back and forth editing until it's in shape to put into the article.  I think that star status is not far away for this article, and it's largely your doing; thanks! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 16:19, 10 February 2007 (EST)

CotW
Just FYI, there's a "queue" system for Project:Collaboration of the week. San Diego would be a great one to have in the queue, as it's a popular destination with an article that needs work, but it should be added to the "Unscheduled" section, then worked in. I've taken the liberty of making the change. (BTW, I wish others would follow your example of suggesting concrete things to work on. It's in the "Nominating" section, but most people don't do it.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 22:24, 13 February 2007 (EST)
 * Ah, thank you. I was confused because it says "If an article meets the criteria above, add it to the "Upcoming" queue. There is no need for a discussion to select an article just for a week." But I should have realized it went into the "Unscheduled" section, since that was there. Thanks for clearing that up. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 00:26, 14 February 2007 (EST)

Zion, etc
Thanks for your efforts to push Zion National Park to star status, and all the work you're doing on other articles like Albuquerque, it's good to have you around! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 19:56, 22 February 2007 (EST)
 * Thank you! :)

 * Sorry, I really can't think of anything else to say. :P Thanks! (WT-en) PerryPlanet 18:56, 23 February 2007 (EST)

Happy birthday!
You were already at University at 16? Good for you :)  I'm 30 and still haven't made it – (WT-en) cacahuate   talk 01:16, 14 June 2007 (EDT)

Albuquerque skyline photo
What happened to the dynamite image that used to be at the top of the ABQ article? That was a great photo. Was there a copyvio issue or such?

My wife and I were in Albuquerque for last night's baseball game, and got routed from same by a thunderstorm. That was a REALLY impressive storm ... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 21:09, 5 August 2007 (EDT)
 * The old image of the skyline was a photo taken directly from the city's website, and the city seems to have a copyright on their images. The same photo was posted on the Wikipedia page for Albuquerque and was quickly removed, and there are problems with other city images on the Wikipedia.
 * I admit, my photo sucks, but it's just a placeholder until we can get a better image.
 * Say, how far did you get on that map of ABQ you were doing? I was just about to start my own. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 21:23, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

Albuquerque maps
Hey, nice job on the maps! Just one thing... unless you use the PD template (which contains all PD icons, etc) and leave off the Wikivoyage logo then the whole map has to be licensed as cc-by-sa 1.0, since that is what the WT logo and some of those icons are licensed as. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 00:21, 21 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Whoops! Thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll be sure to keep that in mind. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 01:18, 21 August 2007 (EDT)

New star
Congratulations on the star for Albuquerque! (Now pick somewhere else and turn your talents there...) (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:22, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Eh, now that I've fulfilled my ultimate goal for Wikivoyage, I think I'll retire for a bit. Although I do have my eye on the San Diego articles... ;) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 21:54, 5 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Hey, if you haven't quite retired yet... I notice that you have traveled around Utah. I'd like to fix up the regions for that state, would you care to take a look at my proposal? I'd really appreciate any insight on how best to group the counties. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:46, 5 September 2007 (EDT)

Utah
Any chance I can get you to reduce that list of cities on the Utah page to 9? I'm personally not sure which to cut. Maybe Orem and Ogden? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:31, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * How about Orem and Kanab? Kanab is a pretty small town. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 01:55, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm tempted to either keep Kanab only because I'd like to keep a nice geographical spread of our sample cities, and its the largest and most important town in southern Utah east of Zion. But I'm not wedded to it. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 02:09, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Well, for a geographical spread, I think you'll be fine with St George and Cedar City, they're in the same area of the state. Kanab is a great stopover, but it really is just a town. It's not a city, even though it's being listed as such. But that's just my humble opinion. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 13:24, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * My feeling is that Kanab is worth keeping simply because it is the only travel-relevant dot on the map in that rather interesting part of the state—St George and Moab are both really far away. Also, we tend to list just about any human-occupied area under the heading "cities" just to keep the heading simple. I was thinking Orem & Ogden because they are the smallest of the "suburbs" listed on the main page, and my hunch is that suburbs are never particularly travel-relevant. But I just don't know that section of the state; the numerous suburbs listed might actually have a big pull for travelers in the area? I also notice that we don't list anything in Western Utah, maybe it might make sense to pull out another suburb in favor of Brigham City? I'll do a little research and revamp the city descriptions to try and get a better handle on this. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:46, 7 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Whoops, Ogden is actually a city isn't it ;) You know what, perhaps we should take out Kanab, seeing as that area is already well represented in the "Other destinations" section. h --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:51, 7 September 2007 (EDT)

Long Beach Hyatt
Perry, I'm not sure why you reverted the addition of the Long Beach Hyatt to the Long Beach page. The language is pretty promotional, but I think that can be fixed, and the listing is probably a good one. Am I missing something? --(WT-en) Evan 16:49, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry, you're right. I got just a bit carried away with reverting all those edits, I must have missed a couple that I should have just edited. In many of the articles this guy edited, he simply highlighted the Hyatt listing that was already there, rather than add a new listing.
 * Again, I'm sorry. I'll be more careful in the future. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 17:15, 14 September 2007 (EDT)
 * Oh, I didn't realize that. I've gone back and added back in the Hyatt listings where they were lost, so I think we're OK. --(WT-en) Evan 17:21, 14 September 2007 (EDT)

Shiny Buttons
Hi John - you've done tons of good stuff around here for a long time now, so any interest in joining the shiny button club? The job basically entails doing exactly what you're already doing, with the cavaet that you need to be careful not to accidentally hit "block" or "protect" instead of "edit" :) Let me know if you'd be interested and I'd be happy to start a nomination. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:07, 13 October 2007 (EDT)
 * I was just about to make this suggestion myself. You'd make a great admin. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:50, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Sure! Wow, this is really an honor! No one has ever asked me to be an admin of anything before. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 12:08, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

 * Done! You've got two weeks to get your "I'd like to thank the academy..." speech ready! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:20, 14 October 2007 (EDT)

 * The switch has been flipped — welcome to the shiny button club! (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:31, 30 October 2007 (EDT)
 * Hooray! Wow, I got a few extra buttons on the top now. My first act as administrator will be to update my user page. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 14:36, 30 October 2007 (EDT)

Vandalism policy?
I don't know about you folks (I'm sending the same message to several), but I for one am getting sick and tired of the intentional vandalism that's going on here. I am trying to start a discussion on Project:Community policies as to whether something more forceful needs to be in place to deal with it. Historically, we have bent far over backwards to avoid punitive action against vandals and have simply gone in and cleaned up the messes they create. However, the frequency of vandalism is growing, and I am not convinced that we are doing Wikivoyage a service by tolerating it. This said, I'm not at all sure what the "right" response is.

I'd appreciate your participation in the discussion on that talk page. Let's see if we can come up with something appropriate. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:44, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

Downtown Charlotte map
Great job as always, I love what you did with the multiple listings-on-one-block blowups! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 03:58, 4 November 2007 (EST)
 * Thanks! I couldn't figure out any other way to fit all those listings into one little block. :-) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 18:57, 4 November 2007 (EST)

Lynx
Hi, I just popped in to say something about Lynx and found that you beat me to it. Do you know where the listing of the Home Economist in South End is? It was on the 12 line and I haven't yet found the closest Lynx stop, and the last time I went there was Wednesday. (WT-en) phma 23:34, 25 November 2007 (EST)
 * Home Economist? Do you mean the market? Looking at their website, it looks like their South End location is just south of the intersection of South and Remount (which unfortunately is outside the range of the map of SouthEnd I did!), which would put it just a few blocks north of the "New Bern" LYNX station. :) (WT-en) PerryPlanet 00:11, 26 November 2007 (EST)

Thanks
I appreciate those detailed critiques on the Star nominations page! Your pointers have been very helpful in improving the articles. And, as I think you know, the best reward you can get after working hard on an article is when someone else gives it a close, thoughtful reading. So thanks! (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 15:29, 15 December 2007 (EST)
 * You're welcome. Thank you for your hard work on the Chicago articles! You and Peter are really setting a standard for us Wikivoyageers to look up to. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 20:00, 15 December 2007 (EST)

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User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2008

See also User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2006 and User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2007 for archived talk.

Buggy Santa Fe article?
Hey John, are you able to read the Santa Fe (New Mexico) article in its current revision without any problems? I made a few changes to reflect this weekend's trip there, and with the browser I'm presently using, the page breaks somewhere in the "Museums" section. Don't know whether it's a buggy browser or a problem with the text that I introduced with the afternoon's edits. Could you check it and get back to me? Thanks. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 19:10, 19 February 2008 (EST)
 * Yea, looks like it's an antiquated browser at work. The page looks fine from my home machine.  Thanks for checking. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 00:07, 20 February 2008 (EST)

San Diego overview map
That's a beauty! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:02, 23 February 2008 (EST)

 * Yep, and all my stumbling around with that Chicago overview map means I can appreciate the effort that goes into a nice map like that! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:00, 23 February 2008 (EST)

Thanks for your Denver contributions.
Just want to give my gratitude to the Denver page. That map in particular really makes the article shine. Thanks, (WT-en) Vertigo700 20:44, 29 February 2008 (EST)

Style tag on Albuquerque
I put that because there is little precedence for dividing the restaurant listings into local cuisine and non-local cuisine. If that were MoS-kosher, I'm sure every city in Japan would have to have Japanese and Non-Japanese sections. The same would be true for many thousands of other locations too. Why should Albuquerque get special treatment? (WT-en) Texugo 20:15, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Albuquerque is a good example of a type of article not handled well by the MoS, or our conventions in general: the "large-but-not-huge" city, and at that, one with a number of interesting features for the traveler for its size. Districtifying the article doesn't make sense, but neither does reducing the number of restaurants to fit our empirically supported position against long lists.  So how does one handle the large number of restaurants worth the traveler's attention (and I speak from experience with many of them)?  A division by cuisine seems as sensible as anything else, particularly given that New Mexican cuisine is a clearly identifiable thing and that many travelers to Albuquerque will specifically want to know where to get it.  If there is a clash here between article content and MoS, tweaking the MoS seems more likely to meet the TTCF goal than messing around with content that really does help the traveler as it currently exists. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 22:35, 30 March 2008 (EDT)
 * FYI, I've tried to re-kindle some debate on this subject at Project:Big city article template. Go and discuss... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 12:14, 31 March 2008 (EDT)

San Francisco
Good News...I got a promotion at work last month (yay!) Bad News...I start my new role tomorrow and my hours are going to be crazy - I will almost certianly have to give up my new Wiki hobby for a while. So, I am just going to have to leave SF in your capable hands. I am going to try to get the Civic Center article up to 'guide' standards today (perhaps tomorrow). Other than that, I'll leave it up you to polish the guide articles we worked on into shining STARS. Good Luck... (WT-en) Asterix 14:39, 30 April 2008 (EDT)

 * Hey there, good to see FWharf made it into a star! I'll have a bit of time on my hands for a little while, and I was wondering whether it would be a great deal more work to convert Chinatown-NB article into a star as well.  I just did a bit of copyediting on it today. What do you think...is there much missing???   (WT-en) Asterix 16:42, 8 July 2008 (EDT)

My God... it's full of content
Whoa! Nice job on SF especially the Wharf! -- (WT-en) Colin 03:25, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

advice
Thank you for your advice on Walking Tour of Belmont Park. I wasn't sure where to cram all that article into your Mission Beach-Pacific Beach.
 * I like your changes. Thank you.(WT-en) Michelle Burton 21:24, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

Castro Hotel on the map
Just a heads up, I added the Castro Hotel to Image:Sanfrancisco chinatownnorthbeach map.PNG & Image:Sanfrancisco chinatownnorthbeach map.svg, so you might want to download the two to update your backups. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:33, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

Admin nomination
Hey, I just nominated User:(WT-en) LtPowers for sysop status. I'd appreciate it if you would comment here. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:00, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Walt Disney World Resort maps
Hi! I just finished giving the WDW article a big makeover, and it is now well on its way to being a Star article. However, the biggest issue now is the maps.

 * I rearranged the Sleep section so that the entries are now in alphabetical order. I think you should update the map to reflect that. Also, lenghten the name of the map to "Walt Disney World Resort" or just "Walt Disney World", since that's the name of the article and it's clearly addressed in the infobox under Understand.
 * Good job, but it looks like someone noticed a minor error: Two hotels (All-Star Movies and Music) are in the wrong places.

 * From the nomination discussion, it seems the only things we need now are maps of the theme parks (and possibly the water parks, Downtown Disney, and Disney's Boardwalk as well) showing the locations of the attractions. (No need to worry about shops or restaurants - the Buy and Eat sections aren't comprehensive and we don't expect them to be.)

Let's make this article a Star! -- User:(WT-en) Jonathan 784 9/10/08 9:38 PM CDT

Update 9/16/08: About your comment on my discussion board regarding five maps for the article: I don't expect you or anyone else to produce so many maps at once. I just read over a few other Star articles that have only one map and have decided that this article is definitely of Star quality with or without additional maps.

Mexico City deletions?
Hi Perry. I've been working on Mexico City, writing reviews where there are just listings and am confused as to why you deleted my review of a hotel in the Splurge section, so that just the listing appears now. Was there something in my writing that you did not agree with? I've worked for a travel publishing company for years, and as a writer, so I'm suprised that you are deleting my reviews with no explanation. --(WT-en) MarinaK 13:58, 17 September 2008 (EDT)MarinaK.

Hehehe, no worries! --64.205.0.18 16:27, 17 September 2008 (EDT)MarinaK.

'some
awesome work on your map of san fran districts !!! happy day of the dead, (WT-en) Edmontonenthusiast 01:35, 1 November 2008 (EDT)!!!

oops!
Hey Perry Planet! I forgot to give you this last night! Ooops! Anyways, I saw some of your maps in San Francisco and Charlotte and I believe some other cities and well, I thought they were very good. That's why I was wondering if you'd be interested in doing on for Downtown Edmonton, and please tell me you've heard of Edmonton (6th largest Canadian city), hehehe. Please note, there is a Central district, but when I ask for the map I don't mean the entire distric, jut one neighbourhood-Downtown! I would give you all the INFORMATION as to what to put, etc. you'd just need to apply it to a map. So what do you think? Please reply in my talk page or in the Central Edmonton talk. If you need more information, here: Talk:Edmonton/Central, I believe it's in and around the bottom. Hopefully you'd learn some about Edmonton ;). Anyways, have a good day!  Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee  talk 17:10, 7 November 2008 (EST).

All the information to Downtown Edmonton Map
Hiya PerryPlanet! Thanks again, so here is the information for the map. I think it's pretty self explanatory...

If you have any questions, please ask, and just let me know when you get this in my talk page, THANKS!

Image:Edmontondowntown.jpg

So the orange areas are well shoppihg areas (i.e. Malls, streets, etc.). For thee ones that are streets (Rice Howard Way and 104th Street shopping area) just take the part of the street and instead of have it white or whatever the colour, have it the colour orange like you see Granville Mall in this Vancouver map (enlarge and see): thumb|500px|center

Get it? Then you label those streets accordingly to their shopping names: Rice Howard Way (just name one of the streets) and 104th Street shopping area.

The ones that are physical buildings in particular (City Centre, TELUS Plaza, Manulife & Commerce Place) those you fill in the entire area that's squared off for it in orange like the street one(s) and then label it acordingly.

For the pukey yellowey or green colour those are institutions that have little-to-no need for the traveller staying under a week. But they are good to note. You are gonna fill them in like the malls in the squared off zone, then label them, like this Denver map:

thumb|500px|center

Like for example the library or the convention centre in that map, get it?

Other than that, I think I've covered everything, should be like your regular map. Remember to label all the streets, the LRT line (Central Station, Bay Station, etc.), and THE RIVER! Not to mention the BRIDGES. Thankyou very much.

Also, remember it may need to get updated, so always keep that in mind. THANK YOU.

Keep smiling,

(WT-en) ee talk 19:26, 7 November 2008 (EST).

 * Go to my UserTalk, I see you did a revision, but there's some more you need to revise. Thanks, Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee  talk 20:37, 8 November 2008 (EST).

Question on Edmonton Map
Congrats-you did a good job, I was wondering if you could still highlight Rice Howard Way and 104 St. on the map in a different way? Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 20:55, 8 November 2008 (EST).

fix on dt map
number 10 under buy should be called escada not coast sports. good job, thank-you, keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 03:18, 9 November 2008 (EST).

more edmonton maps
I was wondering if you'd be interested in more maps related to Edmonton? It's ok to say no. I'd need:
 * Oliver
 * Entire central district
 * Old Strathcona.

Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 03:20, 9 November 2008 (EST).

OLIVER AND OLD STRATHCONA
Well I made up all the info for Oliver and Old Strath. maps for Edmonton. Pick one and start it, and after do the other. I will get information for other maps.

Old Strathcona Edmonton Image:Old strath.JPG Old Strathcona's south of the river near the University of Alberta.

Oliver Edmonton Image:OLIVERMAP.JPG Oliver is just west of downtown and is very high dense.

Anyways, I think you get it.

Have fun!

THanksagaiN!

Keep smiling,

(WT-en) ee talk 16:53, 9 November 2008 (EST)

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Edits
Hey Perry, I was hoping you could do an update on the old Strathcona map. No rush, you could start it next weekend or tomorrow, whatever. You seem busy, how's school. About the map, I would recommend two things as the listings are getting cramped and they aren't fitting their location. Either enlarge the blocks akin to downtOwn's, or do a inset where there'll be a zoom in of the most filled up area. What do you think? If you were to do the zoom thing, it'd be 107 St in the w, 103 St in the e, 84 ave in the n, 81aveinthes. Image:Perrynewoscmp.PNG

Thanks, Keep Smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 23:09, 23 November 2008 (EST).

 * Maybe if you just reformatted this one to have larger blocks and have it blank, then I could re - give you the listings because as they are now, they aren't actually in those spots really, so I could fix up the locations, show em to you on a map, and then you can properly fix it.  (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee]  .T.A.L.K. 20:15, 15 December 2008 (EST).

Edit's to Edmonton Downtown Map
I'll use this when I need you to update the downtown map.

Nov 9 - Hey! I know you just like did the downtown map. But I was wondering if you could ad 10 listings. They're all under Buy and on the map of yours I edited-it's in dark green! Thanks! Image:Edit1.PNG

edits to oliver map
Some errors, some things I'd like changed. Thanks.

The ones with line through means get rid of. The ones with dash and then another name means you did a typo or I gave you the wrong name. Then there is 3 to add. Thanks! Image:Edit2.PNG

Another edit-small! Thanks! Sorry, I'm just finding more and more stuff ;).

Image:EDIT.PNG Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 22:10, 12 November 2008 (EST).

Vancouver map
I was wondering if you'd like to do an edit to the Vancouver (Downtown/West End/GASTOWN) map. All the roads n stuff is there, you'd just need to add listings. Thoughts? Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 20:36, 10 November 2008 (EST).

Sheki star nom
Hey John, I know you had a few objections to Sheki before—would you care to review the latest version to see if it passes your muster. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:33, 11 November 2008 (EST)

Edmonton wikivoyage press
Hey Perry, I am working with Jpotakol to maybe do a press book for Edmonton. I was wondering two things. 1) Could you help a bit? 2) I definitely need those maps for in there that you did, but you'd have to convert them to fit. Would you accept to do that? Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 14:19, 15 November 2008 (EST). left another comment i n  my talk. keep smiling, (WT-en) ee talk 00:31, 16 November 2008 (EST).

What's new?
Hey Perry! Just wondering whats new and stuff. You seemed quite busy last time we talked...whatcha been busy with? Well thats all-OT that's for sure. Keep smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] talk 12:47, 17 November 2008 (EST).

Central Edmonton Map
Hey Perry, thought I'd see if you're up for this this weekend, I asked like 2 wks ago ;). Anyways If you cant thant's fine.

First things first, all I want is the river labelled, all the streets (WITH NAMES), the little inset things like Albuquerque for Downtown and Oliver, proper labelling of all the neighbourhhods. You can put in the parks, but don't labell them yet. Don't add in Kingsway Garden Mll. Add in the other districts (as parts of them appear in here) but have it greyed out but still have the street's visible (use Edmonton district map for reference to borders if you need). Add in Commonwealth Place and Rexall place (towards the east [buildings]) but dont' label them. Labell the LRT though. Other than that I think I've covered evetything. Basically just a basic map then I'll ask for updates afterwards ;).

Image:Forperry.PNG

Keep Smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:52, 22 November 2008 (EST).

I am very sorry if this is rude, but, I am just wondering if you started this map or the upd for Old Strathcona? (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 18:23, 5 December 2008 (EST).

wt maps
I want to thank you for all the maps you've done for all the places you've done on Wikivoyage. Though you may not think it, you have really helped Wikivoyage because there is a shortage of maps. Thank you. (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 20:54, 26 November 2008 (EST).

 * Well thank you EE. As for the map situation on Wikivoyage, it's not great, but it's much better than it was when I first joined. A lot of people have worked to make it much easier for newcomers to learn how to make maps, so we're definitely getting somewhere. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 21:13, 26 November 2008 (EST)

 * True, thanks again. (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee]  .T.A.L.K. 21:23, 26 November 2008 (EST).

PIT PA
Nice work on Pittsburgh! (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 15:54, 28 November 2008 (EST).

Dear, PerryPlanet
First, I thank you. You can understand easily that I'm not good in English.

I'm translating on WikiPedia from English to Turkish.

I'm 58 years old. But I'm feeling Myself as young as you.

I'm living in Istanbul. I'm Turkish. I must say you are lucky. Because you have all opportunity. Your native language is English. But my native language is Turkish.

Everything is diffucult for me. You don't need dictionary but I need.

If you ask me about Turkey, or other things I'll try answer them.--(WT-en) hasanbay 14:44, 29 November 2008 (EST)

my e-mail :hasabay@gmail.com

Best regards

welcome
Awesome work with the welcome messages. Keep smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 17:29, 30 November 2008 (EST).

Edmonton
Hey, do you find Edmonton interesting? If you do, would you mind helping with me in Edmonton's CotM next month, I noticed CotMs are unsuccesfful usually, so I wanna make sure there are people to help. Even if you don't know much on the city, you can look for grammar errors, missing addresses, or if you know something missing. Plus, you'd learn about the city. What do you think? Thank you - in advance, if you say yes. Totally fine if you don't. (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee]  .T.A.L.K. 17:55, 16 December 2008 (EST).

Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas Perry! I hope you have/ing good day! I want to thank you for the maps and updatin them as they really are a help. I also wanna thank you for all the other maps from all kinds of different cities you have done, along with a couple star articles. That took a lot of work, and I appreciate that. You are something to look up to on this site and I thank you very much. Hope you have a great New Year. Happy holidays, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 12:46, 25 December 2008 (EST).

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See also User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2006, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2007, and User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2008 for archived talk.

User:Gxabier
I noticed you rolled back the edits of User:Gxabier. Did you consider adding a Welcome message to the user's talk page before rolling back the changes? I have welcomed the user now and rolled back the other changes that were made. - (WT-en) Huttite 08:15, 21 January 2009 (EST)

How to?
Hi Perry

I had a page deleted by a disgruntled former guest. He seems to be a certified looney, since he told me he would do his best to destroy my resort, even though it is one of the finest in the Philippines. I am not sure if you are the right one to help me get my wiki page back up and running. My resort is ALTA Cebu Village Garden Resort and the url is www.cebugardenresort.com

Thanks Larry Quinn info@altacebu.com larrypq@gmail.com

cake
,,,,,         _|||||_          {~*~*~*~}       __{*~*~*~*}__       `-` ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:20, 27 February 2009 (EST)

Rome
Doesn't it make sense to preserve a general overview paragraph on veg* for Rome?
 * Vegetarians should have an easy time. Buffets usually have a good range of delicious vegetarian stuff too - eg gratinated roast peppers/aubergines, etc. Vegans should do OK, too. Pizzas don't always have cheese - a Marinara for example, is just tomato, garlic and oregano. Remember, though, that Parmesan cheese is not permitted to vegetarians.

I am not a specialist, but it looks like adding some value. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 05:04, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

I was thinking more in the lines of an overview like the one I did in Copenhagen or Peter and Marc did in Chicago, mainly because Rome gets a lot of useless listings, and I thought unlistifying things would improve things a bit, but I have no strong feelings on the matter either. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 14:53, 9 March 2009 (EDT)

Albuquerque Corrections
Perry...you are obviously doing a great job on the Albuquerque, New Mexico Wikipeida pages. I work as a relocation specialist for the largest employer in the city. Many people have told met that they are surprised when they get here, that it snows. They tell me Wikipedia said there was "rare" snow. I see that you spent time in Pittsburgh, so perhaps your sense of snow is different. Maybe you are used to more. People make big financial decisions based on this site, and this the information should be accurate. I see you are an administrator. Please change that. The site has a photo that says "during a rare snow" people are mislead by that. Another thing that may be incorrect is the South Valley is almost as large as the city itself, it is a large growing region with many farms. One of the vice presidents of the company I work for chose that area to live there, above anywhere else in the city. He was from Baltimore, Maryland, and chose the property on line. He came into my office, and said, "Wikipedia says I live in a danger zone...I probably should have chosen a different part of town". he added so far, he hadn't even heard a police car so he didn't know if it was true. If you say on this site that is is a danger zone it is not really true. Say exactly where the danger is. In our office we get a report from the police department that says the crime is concentrated on the Southwest Mesa. Your job as an administrator, is to run a great Albuquerque page. Take it from me, who is seeing results from back end...make it real! Be accurate. Much more money than you can imagine is spent as a direct result of the Albuquerque, New Mexico Wiki page. It can't just be someone's opinion, it has to be the facts! Thanks for listening...from me and the 10 members of this relocation office.

 * First of all, you should really get an account here, it makes communication a little easier. ;-) Secondly, this is a travel site, not Wikipedia. So while we do try to stick to the facts, there is a heavy dosage of opinion involved. And thirdly, while I do have a heavy investment in the Albuquerque article here, Wikivoyage is a collaborative effort, so not everything on the Albuquerque page (particularly the bit about the danger zones) was written by me. Fourthly, it's really quite awesome to hear that people are really taking some of this stuff here to heart!

 * Now then, to your concerns. I think the bit about "rare snowfall" is perfectly accurate. When I wrote that, I hadn't even been to Pittsburgh yet. Albuquerque's snowfall is small compared to even Santa Fe's. As someone who lives here, I feel the snowfall is infrequent enough that "rare" is probably the best word one can use to describe it. It tells you that it does snow here, but not very often. I have no desire to change that.

 * Now, on the bit about the danger zones, again, I did not write that, but I will go ahead and remove it, because I've been to the South Valley and it hardly seems that dangerous. And I doubt most tourists are going to wind up on the Southwest Mesa anyway, so thank you for pointing that out, I will take that down. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 12:58, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

PNC Park
Whats the reasoning for replacing my PNC Park photo with the Flickr one? They look nearly identical. I'm not upset, just wondering why. (WT-en) Jtesla16 14:27, 5 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Fair enough. Pittsburgh is looking good, nice work. (WT-en) Jtesla16 14:57, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Sleep price ranges
Hi Perry. Can I ask why you reset the lower price range to $0 on Downtown Disney and Animal Kingdom, and why you removed the price range template entirely on the Magic Kingdom article? =) (WT-en) LtPowers 14:23, 14 April 2009 (EDT)
 * Well the price ranges should be consistent throughout the resort, not for any style reason but just because that's how Disney defines them. I'll see if I can figure out what the ranges should be.  (WT-en) LtPowers 22:01, 14 April 2009 (EDT)

SF guide
Hey, that would be great news if you got a WTP guide to San Francisco together! I was rather hoping you would, and I'd without a doubt be a customer—my girlfriend loves the city, and it would be a fantastic trip carrying that book around. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:48, 22 April 2009 (EDT)

thank you - Pittsburgh
Thank you PerryPlanet for all the work on Pittsburgh! I had a read through some of the parts and it looks interesting. Pittsburgh is one of the coolest rustbelt cities, and I want to use your (awesome) formatting and style as some inspiration for my work on Edmonton and Portland. Pittsburgh looks like the gritty, historical, industrial version of like Portland, Or. (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 00:43, 30 May 2009 (EDT).

Rome map
Hey, do you have an SVG for wts:Image:Rome_districts_map.png? We've changed one of the district names, so I'd like to update it. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:11, 3 June 2009 (EDT)

Big Bend NPS map
Hey John, I'm done working on the NPS-derived Big Bend map for the time being. So if you're interested in sprucing it up, by all means go ahead! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:19, 30 June 2009 (EDT)

 * Wow! That looks fantastic! Please bring it into the article—I think it's a huge improvement.

 * By all means, upload the updated SVG file—I always keep those on my hard drive anyway, just in case. Moreover, you can always access the older versions of uploaded files on Shared through the history. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:58, 2 July 2009 (EDT)

Hot off the press
Congrats! (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:31, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

 * Thanks! (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 18:57, 14 July 2009 (EDT)

Pacific Coastal Properties Removal?
Hi,

I was wondering why my listing for Pacific Coastal Properties was removed from the Solana Beach page...the address of the business is located in Solana beach and they offer vacation rentals in the area.

Thanks.

Cuisine categories in "New York City/Chinatown"
PerryPlanet: First of all, thank you for your wonderful additions to New York articles like the one on Lower Manhattan.

But I have to ask you why you deleted some of the cuisine categories I had created for the Chinatown article. By deleting them, you have left a jumble of uncategorized restaurants at the top of the "Eat" section. Unless that is a temporary measure and you have some brilliant master plan for the article (which, seeing your other contributions recently, may indeed be the case), the result is that you have made that section less user-friendly and subtracted useful information, to the detriment of readers. Please restore the categories that were there. Thank you.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 23:32, 2 August 2009 (EDT)

 * Thanks for your reply in my User talk page. The thing about Chinatown is that most every restaurant would be in the "inexpensive" category, so in this case, subcategories by cuisine would seem to me to be most useful. Of course, we could divide categories into "super cheap," "inexpensive," and "moderately inexpensive to moderate." :-)

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:50, 3 August 2009 (EDT)

I see. Thank you for adding the galleries to the proper district. That was my bad... --(WT-en) WebGurl85 13:09, 14 August 2009 (EDT)

"Santa fe rentals" (sic)
I'm not on here much these days, so could you take a look at what somebody using the above handle has just "contributed" to the Santa Fe article? I think it should be at least partly rolled back because of the proscription against second-party lodging services, but I haven't been paying attention to the latest gyrations in our policy. Your input valued.

Anything new and exciting going on? I'm feeling rather overwhelmed at the moment, and am not traveling much either. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 23:33, 9 September 2009 (EDT)

Your thoughts on SEWT?
hi just asking people if they oppose or support the idea of a simple english wikivoyage? (WT-en) Seabanks 19:32, 23 October 2009 (EDT)

Garduno's
John, do you know whether the Garduno's chain as a whole is still alive? In addition to the one at the airport closing, the one in Las Cruces is also kaput, as a result of a big tax-evasion "incident" according to my son, a student at NMSU. I certainly hope the others in Albuquerque survive; I've always enjoyed going to them. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 21:25, 23 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2010

See also User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2006, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2007, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2008, and User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2009 for archived talk.

Bangkok
Awesome work with the embassies of Bangkok! --(WT-en) globe-trotter 18:14, 1 March 2010 (EST)

SF districts map
I think I understand what folks are asking for on the starnom page. Would you mind if I take a crack at spiffing it up? I don't want to us to have an "edit conflict" with the map though! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:38, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

 * Lest you think I forgot, I have not (just been busy), and almost have it the way I want it now. After I draw in the major parks, I'll upload it and hopefully clinch in that star! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:17, 6 April 2010 (EDT)

NM maps
Nice work on the NM region maps—I just noticed them! It would be really cool to map them all. That's my long term plan with Maryland as well. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:21, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

I added information about the Westin Gaslamp for downtown San Diego Hotels. I can see it here in Dallas, but my coworker in phoenix cant see the addition. Any thoughts? rory.peska@sheraton.com

Incorrect boundary/geographical location
In my edits(which I won't make anymore), I was trying to point out the incorrect boundary of the area(if there is such a thing). The problem lies in the fact that Columbus Ave. runs in a northwest-southeast direction, cutting across both neighborhoods. East of Montgomery just south of green is the Financial District, while east of Kearny + north of Green is Telegraph Hill, two completely neighborhoods.

Regards,

LB

 * All I can say is...huh? The Financial District doesn't start in earnest until south of Washington Street; east of Montgomery and south of Green is mostly apartment buildings. As for Telegraph Hill, we've attached that to North Beach for the purposes of our guide, and we're certainly not the first guide to do that. Now, as for Columbus Avenue, I did clarify the boundary in the intro. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 15:00, 28 July 2010 (EDT)

Consulates
You're very welcome, sir! Thanks for your regards. I think it's sort of interesting to see all the different countries that set up an office in a particular city; it sort of helps tell the story of that location. I'll keep plunging forward!(WT-en) Zepppep 16:21, 13 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Kept plugging away at it. Put up all 32 Belgian consulates and honorary consulates in the U.S. today...that took up the better part of a day. Who would've known they had so many!(WT-en) Zepppep 14:05, 15 September 2010 (EDT)

 * (WT-en) LtPowers has stated he believes listing consulates might be a potential issue when WTers go to print an article, and thus, he believes they may not be of great value. LtPowers has also stated he believes EMBASSIES should go on country article and not the city. He's stated he doesn't represent the majority's opinion but suggests perhaps bringing this up in a more central location. Where would that "central" location be? (I've also posted the question on his/her talk page.) FYI.... (WT-en) Zepppep 12:40, 17 September 2010 (EDT)
 * I didn't say anything about embassies on the country article. (WT-en) LtPowers 10:36, 18 September 2010 (EDT)

Kitsap and Beyond: Seattle listing of Kitsap Tours under Tours. Please help me understand how I can comply to be listed under tours on the Seattle page. I see the other tours there; similar in my mind and not sure what I need to change. Help would be appreciated. Thanks so much!

Not sure if the last message went through so will restart.

It seems that in all other categories all are listed; car rentals, museums, etc. Tours are an important part of travel and the very few you have allowed to stay are far from the most unique or best. All are good tours, but hardly representative of Seattle and all that is offered for our visitors.

As for listing in Seattle; we are a Seattle tour that starts in Seattle and all our guests come from Seattle and we are an option to see the greater area surrounding Seattle.

As a long time contributor to other wiki sites I understand that rules are needed but this seems too extreme to leave only the few non representative tours on the Seattle page. Certainly not a service to the tourists and guests to the city and therefore not best for wikivoyage and also not in keeping with other cities and their tour listings.

How can I appeal this decision on behalf of myself and the other tours you have deleted?

Jean

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User talk:PerryPlanet/Archive/2011

See also User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2006, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2007, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2008, User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2009 and User talk:(WT-en) PerryPlanet/2010 for archived talk.

I-80 and State College
Hi, Perry. Are you sure I-80 goes through State College? (WT-en) LtPowers 20:54, 21 February 2011 (EST)
 * OK, sounds like you've got it well in hand! (WT-en) LtPowers 07:32, 22 February 2011 (EST)

I-86 and I-390
Hi, Perry. Corning is the southern control city for I-390, so it seems very odd to omit it from the routebox. I'm also not clear on why you removed 390 from the routeboxes of other cities on I-86; the junction is a major landmark and it's in the middle of nowhere. (WT-en) LtPowers 22:12, 26 February 2011 (EST)
 * Yeah, technically the junction is in Avoca, but no one goes there. =)  I'll defer to your judgment on Corning; it just seems odd to have 390 missing, and I thought the previous presentation was more elegant than squeezing "to Geneseo" into the I-86 line.  (WT-en) LtPowers 16:10, 1 March 2011 (EST)
 * ... and I was hoping that having "junction 390" on the I-86 line would make it clear that the junction was outside of the city. (WT-en) LtPowers 16:12, 1 March 2011 (EST)

Routebox expedition
Hi! I just noticed that all the routeboxes for the primary interstate highways have been completed! Since both of us have been working on routeboxes alot, if you created a Routebox Expedition with lists of routeboxes to work on, I would be willing to help out. (WT-en) –sumone10154 00:55, 23 March 2011 (EDT)

Punchbowl
The edits you made on Punchbowl look good. I thought the article should at least reference those awesome wall paintings, and I think you were correct to take out the excessive detail on hours of operation that I added.

Manhattan Districts Map
Dear Perry, I noticed that your map indicating the districts of manhattan was slightly incorrect, in so far as your reference to Hoboken. The area you have indicated as Hoboken is actual Jersey City. This is a minor correction. Jersey City is located directly outside and South of the Holland Tunnel and Hoboken is North of the Holland Tunnel (I live in Jersey City). I've gone ahead and updated the file. It is uploaded to shared as "Manhattan_districts_51811.png" - I've also credited the image to you in the notes. I hope this is ok with you. Best, Chris

Seattle map
I saw you have a nice-looking revised map of Seattle in the works. If I may, I'd like to suggest a couple changes: replace "West Seattle Freeway" with "West Seattle Bridge", and label Rainier Ave. in South Seattle - it's the major thoroughfare in that region, more so than MLK. It's the street that roughly parallels MLK to the east. Maybe also label Lake City Way in the northern region (the diagonal branching northeast from I-5 about where the "v" in "Roosevelt" is, if that doesn't make it overly cluttered. — (WT-en) D. Guillaime 21:16, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

Delete user page
Hi! Could I quickly ask you to delete my user page? Ta. +(WT-en) Hexagon1 (t) 04:30, 4 July 2011 (EDT)

Hotel in/outside China Town
Hi, I saw your revert. That does explain why I couldn't find the Triton Hotel. It strikes me as odd though, to add a hotel to a different district because it's right next to it. The bars and restaurants around the hotel are listed in Union Square. I get that China Town is a major tourist attraction, but isn't it a bit of a random pick to put this hotel in there? (WT-en) Justme 15:20, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Person who contributes

Hello, Person who contributes! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Great work on Milan! As you no doubt noticed, the article is pretty lacking in info, so it's great to see you adding high quality content. Please keep it up! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 20:48, 1 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Hi! Thank you for working on Italy. Please refrain from long list (like name all the italian brands) as Wikivoyage is not the yellow pages. We have a policy called Project:No_advice_from_Captain_Obvious so e.g. it is clear for everyone that Gucci and Prada are Italian. Keep up the work and please have a brief look on what i changed. (WT-en) jan 07:35, 3 June 2010 (EDT)
 * P.S.: I reduced the shop lists in Milan to be compliant with our Listings policy. H&M is so widespread (an others too) that we don't list them. Only italian brands you don't get outside Italy should be listed.(WT-en) jan 07:45, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

Milan
Since you have been doing such great work on Milan, I thought I might give you a couple ideas of how to really shape the article up into an exceptional travel guide.

Probably the most important task is going to be to create districts for the article. For good examples of districted cities, take a look at Kyoto, Copenhagen, Rome, etc. I don't know much about Milan, but it looks like the zonas might provide a good base for district boundaries? Maybe use Zona 1 for an article, then combine some of the outer zonas into Milan/North, Milan/West, etc. If you have any ideas on this matter, please propose them at Talk:Milan! My hunch is that, given the amount of content we currently have and the size of the city, that 5–8 districts might be a good starting point. Once the discussion gets going, it's fairly safe to assume that one of our mapmakers (perhaps me) will volunteer to draw up a districts map.

The next step after districting, would be to get the article up to guide status, which shouldn't be too hard for a knowledgeable writer such as yourself ;)

Anyways, I'll pitch in on the districts discussion if you get it started, and let me know if you have any questions! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:41, 11 June 2010 (EDT)


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User talk:(WT-en) Peru Adventure Tours

Inca Trail Trek To Machu PicchuInka Track - Inka Way - Inca Net World 4 Day - 3 Night http://www.peruadventurestours.com/en/cusco/inca_trail_trekking.html

ItineraryDay 1: Cusco - Wayllabamba (12km) The first day of the trek is relatively easy and serves as training for the days to follow. Travellers are collected early from their hotels (5:30 Am) and travel by private bus, past the villages of Chincheros, Urubamba and Ollantaytambo. It is a 3 hour trip to the trailhead at Kilometre 88. On the way there, we stop at the town of Urubamba or Ollantaytambo for about an hour to have breakfast (not included in the price). Having arrived at km 88, hikers cross the Vilcanota River and follow the trail on the right as it climbs steadily up from the river. After passing through a small village, the ruins of the Inca hill fort of Huillca Raccay come into view high above the mouth of the river Cusy Chacca. From parts of this trail there are great views of the Urubamba mountain range and the snow capped peak of Veronica (5870m). Here we also have a good view over the extensive Llactapata Inca ruins. Llactapata means "Upper town" in Quechua and was first discovered by Hiram Bingham in 1911. We continue hiking 8 km on the left bank of the river up to the small village of Wayllabamba "Grassy Plain", 3000m. We will eat dinner and spend the first night here.

DAY 2: WAYLLABAMABA - PAQAYMAYO (12km) After breakfast, following the left bank of the Lluyuchayoc river for about 1 hour we climb up to three stones and cross a small bridge over the Wayruro river. There is a toilet facility. The stream is named after the Wayruro, an ornamental tree. Hiking up 4½ hours, you will see spectacular views of Lluyucha Pampa (3680m). Continuing up you will get to the first and highest pass of the Inca trail, called Abra Huarmy Wañusca meaning "Dead Woman's Pass" (4200m). At the top hikers can celebrate having completed the most difficult section of the trail with a warm and delicious lunch. We then do an steady decent following the trail on the left side of the Paqaymayo valley. Our dinner and second campsite is at 3600 meters over sea level.

DAY 3: PAQAYMAYO - WYÑAY WAYNA (15km) After breakfast we climb up for one hour to the ruins of Runkuracay. These small circular ruins occupy a commanding position overlooking the Paqaymayo valley. Another hour hiking we will be at the top of the second pass, called Abra de Runkuracay at 4000m. The descent down the steps from the pass is steep. This section of the trail is particularly beautiful as the path crosses high stone embankments and skirts deep precipices. After about one hour walking we will arrive at the pass called Sayaqmarca = "Inaccessible Town". This describes the position of the ruins perfectly, protected on three sides by sheer cliffs. No one knows the exact purpose of these ruins. After lunch, we level out into cloud forest full of orchids, hanging mosses, tree ferns and flowers, passing through an impressive Inca tunnel. We then climb up to the 3rd pass called Puyupatamarca = "Town in the Clouds" (3700m). Here excellent views are offered of several snow-capped peaks, Salkantay Mountain (6180m) and Veronica Mountain (5750m). Access to the ruins is down a steep flight of stairs passing six Inca Baths, probably used for the water ritual. Leaving the site via an impressive Inca staircase leading from the west side of the ruins, you will descend a thousand steps. Take care with your knees. After three hours walking through cloud forests you will arrive to Wyñay Wayna. This is our last campsite before Machu Picchu. There is a restaurant, a patio bar to buy drinks and well deserved hot showers. That afternoon we go to the ruins of Wyñay Wayna "Forever Young". The ruins located on a nice slope comprise magnificent agricultural terraces. There are many buildings of quality stonework, suggesting that the site was probably a religious center associated with the worship of water.

DAY 04: WYÑAY WAYNA - SUN GATE - MACHU PICCHU(5km) - AGUAS CALIENTES - CUSCO At 4am we will wake early, have breakfast and hike up to the last pass at to Inti Punku "Sun Gate" to get Machu Picchu before sunrise. From here you will appreciate Machu Picchu ruins, Wayna Picchu and the low canyon called Aguas Calientes. We will spend an hour watching a spectacular sunrise over the ruins. Continuing down the trail to the best views of the ruins, you will have plenty of time to take photos of Machu Picchu. We then descend to the main entrance, where you can safely check your large backpacks. Following a guided tour for two hours of the major sections, you will have free time to explore the ruins alone or to climb to Wayna Picchu (2 hours to go up and down). At 1:30pm the entire group together hikes down through low jungle and continue hiking on left bank of the river to Aguas Calientes. There you will have a short time to buy some lunch, drinks or go to the toilet. The train departs at 4pm you will return back to Cusco about 8pm.

Included Official English speaking guide (two guides for groups over 8 persons) Transfer from Cusco to Km 88 by private or shared tourist van Entrance to the Inca trail Entrance to Machu Picchu ruins (one day) Porters to carry food and camping equipment Experienced cook Cooking equipment Teatime everyday (coffee, tea, popcorn, biscuit) 4 capacity tent (four season tent) - 2 persons per tent with plenty space for backpacks Double thickness foam sleeping mattress All meals on the trail (3 breakfast - 3 lunches - 3 dinners) Water supply (boiled) after every dinner or breakfast Return train ticket from Aguas Calientes to Cusco (Backpacker train) Bus from Machu Picchu down to Aguas Calientes village (Not all tour operators include this service) Dining tent with camp tables and chairs Kitchen tent Porters insurance Accommodation and meals for our porters Trekking price include all local sales taxes (19%) First aid kit and oxygen bottle for any participant and our camp staff

WE HAVE DAILY DEPARTURE Please make your reservation 3 months prior your arrival to Cusco.

Backpacker service (Join a group) 1 to more paticipants US$395 each

Private VIP service (private guide) 2 participants US$688 each 3-4 participants US$525 each 5 to more participants US$415 each

OUR REFERENCES http://www.peruadventurestours.com/en/guestbook.php

IMPORTANT: The Peruvian government has not announced the increase for Inca Trail permit price 2008; same is happen with the train company from Cusco to Machu Picchu (www.perurail.com). If any of costs listed above change to increase the cost of the trek permit and the train tickets we will update the new price on our website. We will notify by email all our clients affected by the price increase who will be liable for paying the increased cost of the Inca Trail trek upon arrival in Cusco. After you fill the BOOKING FORM and you provide us the copy of your passport we will buy your Inca Trail trek permit using the same passport number that you send us with your BOOKING FORM. You must bring this same passport with you to the Inca Trail (departure date). If your passport number is different from the number on the Inca Trail trek permit the government authorities don’t will accept you to start the trek and also you will not be entitled to a refund. If you like to stay an extra night in Aguas Calientes we can arrange any hotels. If you spend an extra night in Aguas Calientes we will book your train tickets to return to Cusco on the following day.

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PERU SANDBAORD TOURS

Usaca Dune Buggy And Sandboarding http://www.peruadventurestours.com/en/ica/usaca_sandboard_dunebuggy.html

Archaeology, Adventure and A Lot Fun In The Desert - Half Day Tour Usaca is the name of the driest region recently discover of smalls sand dune located on the west side of Nazca valley. There are many dunes next of the Tambo Perro valley, the place look a oasis and large carob tree forest surround the dunes. Usaca sand dunes are one of the best destinations "off the beaten path" while protecting natural resources from over-exploitation. This place is recently introduced in the tourism, only few adventurous travelers know this oasis. The Off road trip in buggy can be combined visiting Cahuachi archaeological site, one of the biggest ceremonial centers of the Nazca civilization, located on the left rim of the Nazca River. The trip also runs entry the Estaqueria archaeological site and the Ocongalla Nazca aqueducts. Peru Adventure tours introduce this trip in 2005 and strongly recommend you spend one day more in Nazca, and explore these entire wonderful destination before to be so popular and mentioned in the travel guide books as lonely planet. Usaca sand dunes have the appropriate geography for dune buggy, Off road, and Sandboarding lovers and don’t mind if you never did downhill on the board, this is the correct time, way and place to learn about this sport.

Itinerary

Usaca dune buggy and sandboard tour can be departure at 7am or 1pm, all depend of our client request. The trip begins from the hotel in Nasca, firstly we aboard our Dune buggy vehicle (4WD) and Off road tour on let bank of Nazca Valley. The first stop will in Cahuachi ceremonial center and a sacred destination of Nazca pilgrims between 100 and 500 AD. The visit includes the main cultural-urban center, pyramidal temples, terracing of fossil sand dunes streets and squares give the site a general city aspect. After complete guided tour to this recently excavated great pyramid we continue through the Cahuachi valley, enter to Tambo de Perro village, group of farmers leave in this charm valley, from here we use the buggy to drive in stony ad dirty road till Usaca valley. Usaca is nice quiet oasis in the middle of hundreds sand dunes and the encounter of Nazca and Pajonal River. Uphill in the buggy and downhill Sandboarding on the amazing dunes, after 2 hours of fun time and observing the great coastal natural sceneries and strange desert forest we return by the same way we used to get there, stop in Estaqueria it was considerate a solar observatory, on platforms made of adobes and columns of "Huarangos" trunks (carob tree). After 5 hours adventure trip come back to your hotel.

Included Professional English speaking guide Private van to the trailhead Boards for each participants Snack (fresh fruit and energy bars) and lunch will be served after come back to Nasca Swimming Pool can be used after lunch Personal porter to carry your boards or gear (only private VIP service) PERU ADVENTURE TOURS gift Tour price include government taxes

Backpacker service (Join group) 1 to more participants US$85 each

Private VIP service (private van) 2 participants US$135 each 3-4 participants US$120 each 5 to more participants US$105 each Discount 5%: South American Explorers Club Members Discount 10%: Tour Operators or Travel Agencies Only Students: US$25 discount only with valid green ISIC card Organized Groups: We offer private and any time departure Group size: Wa have different sizes of buggies, for 2, 4, 6, 10 people capacity Booking: We highly recommend make reservation prior your arrival to Nasca

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