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User talk:(WT-en) Suhasd

Welcome
Hello Suhasd!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for plunging forward so far. If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful. You should also make sure you understand our copyleft and policies and guidelines. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help and Project:Jargon, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on the talk page for the most appropriate article.

Your Image:DSC 0193.jpg is awesome! Thanks for contributing it! You may want to check the image policy just to familiarize yourself with rules for images, but aside from the filename (which isn't a big deal) this image seems to be in line with policy so it seems like you know what you're doing. Hopefully we'll see more! -- (WT-en) Ryan 04:19, 27 March 2006 (EST)

Hey Suhasd. You've been working hard on the Alora article. It sounds like a great place. However, I'm afraid that I have had to delete the 'visit' information because it has been copied from and therefore contravenes copyright laws. However, if you can rewrite in your own words, then in will be acceptable. Sorry about that. (WT-en) WindHorse 27 March 06

Delhi
Thanks for your great additions to Delhi's history! I've reverted your changes to Delhi's airport and climate sections though — while way better than it used to be, the airport is still terribly overcrowded and will stay that way until they open the new terminal in 2010; and Delhi's climate is in all likelihood the worst of all the world's major cities. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:16, 26 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Suhobei

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your edits on Wikivoyage on the Japanese verstion too! -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 16:34, 31 August 2006 (EDT)

Nice work
Good job on the Japanese pages! (WT-en) - Cacahuate 15:03, 21 February 2007 (EST)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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User talk:(WT-en) Suite717

Hello, Suite717! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Please take a look at Project:external links and Project:accommodation listings, which explain our policy about links to external guides and third-party booking services. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 14:41, 4 June 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sujan

Hello Sujan! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Suko

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 01:52, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

China map
Might I ask what you were attempting to do with the Chinese map? - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:03, 19 June 2006 (EDT)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Suko


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User talk:(WT-en) Sulfis

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki software look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 11:12, 9 July 2006 (EDT)

 * A welcome from me too, and thanks for your contributions to Thiruvananthapuram! — (WT-en) Ravikiran 11:51, 9 July 2006 (EDT)

Thanks.
This is my first attempt at major modification of any article in wikivoyage. Thanks for the greetings.

Disambiguation
Yeah, you did most of it wrong. Don't take it too hard, since this is one of the most complex things you can do on Wikivoyage, but please ask first if you're not sure next time...

 * There's no consensus that Kochi needs to be moved anywhere, so you should have raised this for discussion first. "Cochin" still appears to be more popular than "Kochi" on Google.
 * According to Project:Article naming conventions, we use parentheses to disambiguate, so it would be Kochi (Shikoku), not Kochi, Shikoku.
 * Pages should be moved, not replaced with #REDIRECT tags -- now Kochi, Shikoku has no history.

I've fixed up the names and the histories. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:57, 10 January 2009 (EST)
 * Thanks and sorry. --(WT-en) Sulfis 04:31, 28 February 2009 (EST)

Car rental
Heya, per Project:External links we should "Avoid linking to..." "'Rental cars operators, in cities where they are common (10 or more operating in the city). Typically we don't provide details of national car rental chains in local guides. Providing details at the national level, and mentioning the name and location at local level is sufficient if required. "

We are frequently excessively spammed my car rental agencies, hence the hardline approach, but if there are any compelling reasons for them to be present in Trivandrum by all means go ahead, but please just include local ones (non nationwide) and include the local office' address and phone number. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 07:04, 23 December 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Suling

Welcome
Hello, Suling! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Nick 17:39, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

Copyright violation
I have tagged a number of your photos as copyright violations, please see Image policy for details on what images are acceptable. All copyright violations will be deleted. --(WT-en) Nick 17:43, 25 July 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sullivan

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Majnoona 21:19, 2 May 2006 (EDT)

 * Oh, and it would be great if you wanted to become a docent for your home town of Albany (Oregon)! (WT-en) Majnoona 21:19, 2 May 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sumalsn

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your contributions to Kannur! -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 05:05, 9 December 2006 (EST)

 * I've responded on my talk page concerning your comments and question. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 05:30, 9 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sume

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your note on the Berchtesgaden National Park. I started a new national park page for it. --(WT-en) Evan 16:47, 29 November 2006 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sume


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User talk:(WT-en) Sumeshnarmath

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User talk:(WT-en) Sumi99

Hello, Sumi99! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Sumitbasu

Hello Sumitbasu! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Sumitomo-inn

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki software look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 02:50, 19 July 2006 (EDT)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sumitomo-inn


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User talk:(WT-en) Summerrocks

Hello Summerrocks!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Oh, and in answer to the question you wrote, it is your user page, so anything you want to say about yourself can be put there! -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:57, 31 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) SummerSeah

Santorini

Santorini is a beautiful island with nice sunset view.

title: User talk:(WT-en) SummerSeah


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User talk:(WT-en) SUMMERSUN

Hello, SUMMERSUN! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Summerswriting

Welcome to Wikivoyage
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for your contributions to Ridgecrest. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 10:16, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Summerswriting


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User talk:(WT-en) Summi

Based on your edits it appears that you may be a hotel marketer, so please read Wikivoyage's guidelines for marketers and note that Wikivoyage should not be used as a tool for marketing. If you have questions you can ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:31, 7 February 2012 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Summi


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User talk:(WT-en) Sumo

Hello Sumo! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your edits to Thailand, but to avoid repeating too much I've taken the liberty of moving some of your text down to the "Understand" section. (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:51, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sumo


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User talk:(WT-en) Sumz.fash

Hello Sumz.fash! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunady

Yekaterinburg
Thanks for your message. Unless there are exceptional circumstances, travel agents should not be listed on Wikivoyage as per policy here and here. Your listing was noticed as it was new. Your link was also placed in a couple of other articles. The two old travel agent listings in Yekaterinburg should not have been there and they have now also been removed. Thanks. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 19:52, 17 January 2010 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunady


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunbun

Hello Sunbun!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Beijing. -- (WT-en) Huttite 08:39, 7 Jul 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunburn7

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 08:45, 9 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sun.chen

Hello, Sun.chen! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Nice work on Sanya, Shanghai, and Yabuli—please keep it up! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:43, 11 February 2010 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sun.chen


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User talk:(WT-en) Sundar

Hello Sundar!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Kodaikanal. -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:21, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sundar


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User talk:(WT-en) Sundarban1

Your contributions
I'd like to welcome you to Wikivoyage, but I fear your stay may not be a long one: Most of your contributions violate either Wikivoyage's tour policy or its prohibition on booking agents. I would request that, instead of continuing to run afoul of our policies, you would instead consider posting information about the places you know - information which does not attempt to steer business to any travel agency or booking agency but is of use to most any visitor. If you do that, you can make yourself a valuable member of this site. But as we're almost all volunteers here, it is totally your choice. Just know that any post you make that violates site policies will be deleted quickly.

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 06:26, 14 July 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sundar m77

Hi Sundar! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for your contributions to Chennai! Here are some links you may find useful:

 * Policies and guidelines
 * Manual of style
 * Article templates
 * Project:Help
 * Travellers' pub
 * Copyleft

If you need any help, leave a message on the Travellers' pub --(WT-en) Ravikiran 16:10, 10 March 2006 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sundar m77


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunder77

Hello Sunder77! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. Keep smiling, (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] .T.A.L.K. 13:24, 17 November 2008 (EST).

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunduk

Welcome
While businesses are welcome to contribute to Wikivoyage, please do not use Wikivoyage for advertising and see our apartment rental listing policy to understand why your edits continue to be reverted. Also note that continually re-adding your listings can lead to blacklisting, so please do not continue to re-add the same business. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:40, 22 February 2010 (EST)

 * I've added your site to our blacklist due to continual re-adding of listings that aren't in compliance with our guidelines. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:53, 22 February 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) SungGyungSo

Welcome
Hello, SungGyungSo! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

While your contributions are appreciated, please read Project:What is an article to understand what should and should not get its own article. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:00, 11 March 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Suniljoshi

Welcome, business owner
Welcome! But please inform yourself about the guidelines under which we all have to operate on this site. I will give you a short reading list. If, after you've finished reading, you have any questions, feel free to ask here or, better yet, at Project:Travellers' Pub:

Project:Don't tout

Project:External links

Project:The traveller comes first

Project:Welcome, business owners

You will note that your car rental advertisements in the Bahrain guide are being deleted each time you put them up. It's doubtful that any format will be OK for such listings, but you have no chance if you write them like a sales pitch.

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 20:13, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunilkumar

Sunil Kumar Singh is working as a software engineer in Noida. Sunil Kumar Singh short name is Bunty,playiing role in social activities..

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunilkumar


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User talk:(WT-en) SUNILSETH

Hello, SUNILSETH! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please read Welcome, business owners and do not use your user page as an advertisement page. Thanks! --(WT-en) globe-trotter 04:50, 25 September 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunmare on Wheels

Hello Sunmare on Wheels!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Why do you think the Toronto article is opinionated? -- (WT-en) Huttite 02:07, 20 Nov 2005 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunmare on Wheels


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunny101

Welcome
Hello, Sunny101! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunny101


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunnydong

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) - Cacahuate 03:26, 25 February 2007 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunnydong


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunny puli

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

--(WT-en) NJR_ZA 07:23, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunny.Smiles

Welcome
Hello, Sunny.Smiles! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Good work on Plovdiv, please keep it up! – (WT-en) Vidimian 12:18, 26 August 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunofeast

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

If you have any questions feel free to ask! -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 13:43, 27 December 2006 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunofeast


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunrise

Welcome to Wikivoyage!

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

We don't generally list tour operators or travel agencies, particularly in areas like Hue where there are so many of them offering the same product, because this is meant to be a guide for travelers to do things for themselves. But thanks for the coffee suggestions. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 23:00, 9 December 2008 (EST)

title: User talk:(WT-en) Sunrise


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User talk:(WT-en) Sunrise B&B

Hello, Sunrise B&B! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

We have a introductory page for business owners--please take a minute to read it before going on with your edits.

Please take care to edit (WT-en) your user page, not some other user called (WT-en) Sunrise B. This is an inherent technical error that is caused by you having an & in your user name that conflicts with the way the internet works. (Please see Project:Article_naming_conventions) You might want to change your user account name to something different, like SunriseBandB, to save problems later. - (WT-en) Huttite 07:27, 27 January 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Sunthosh p

Hello, Sunthosh p! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) Pashley 23:26, 27 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Supaflyza

Welcome
Hello Supaflyza! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your contributions to South Africa, but please see Project:External links. In general we try to avoid external links here - there is a long history that can be seen on Project:External links. Hopefully we'll see more South Africa contributions from you though! -- (WT-en) Ryan 15:36, 20 June 2006 (EDT)

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Hi! Please see Apt, dt and SEO. (WT-en) Jc8136 06:47, 27 July 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Superbeamer

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Welcome
Welcome! Please note that your edits have been removed as they appear to be advertising. Additionally, please read our policy on tour listings, and if you still feel your company should be listed please discuss on either this talk page or on the appropriate article's talk page before re-adding. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:08, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

Greenwich Village
Hi. I don't understand why the tour listed of New York Food Tours was erased from the On Foot section of the Greenwich Village. It is an activity supplement for the destination. I believe it is a valid activity for the Wikivoyageers. (WT-en) Superdeed 15:08, 23 April 2010 (EDT)

 * Please see our policy on tours. It appears that the New York Food Tours do not comply to the policy (added value, not possible for the traveler to do on his own, real world address).  If you think it does comply, please explain why, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 13:14, 24 April 2010 (EDT)

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Thanks for your edits to Singapore! I don't think there's any restaurant in Singapore where you can get a bill of S$1000 for two without heavily hitting the wine list though... (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:45, 9 February 2008 (EST)

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Indigenous Australian civilization
When I was learning indigenous culture, I was taught that Aboriginal Australian civilization oldest surviving civilization in the world. Unfortunately, this fact doesn't seem very well known, and needs some better recognition. Just some other sources to back that up:
 * From AllThat'sInteresting
 * CNN
 * Tourism Australia
 * The Guardian
 * Also from the Guardian

There were of course older civilizations, but they're not currently living civilizations today. I'll make that more clearer in the article. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 21:49, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 * If you're talking about continually-existing civlisations, then I guess that's possible. But humans most certainly emerged in Africa before they made their way to Australia, so the earliest human societies most certainly arose in Africa. The dog2 (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * True. I reworded it to say that it's the oldest living civilization. However, according to this,
 * "Africa's first great civilization emerged in ancient Egypt in c.3400 BC. Carthage was founded by Phoenicians in the 9th century BC."
 * I do find it hard to believe as that's not backed up with citations, but hopefully the reworded one makes it more clearer. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:01, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, that works. And African history just happens to be one of my pet peeves because there's so much ignorance of that too. People often think that apart from Egypt and Carthage, Africa was an uncivilised place with only hunter-gatherer cultures, but that's simple not true, and sub-Saharan Africa has a very rich history too, with civilisations that built great cities and complex societies (and besides, I don't like this notion that hunter-gatherer people are uncivilised; it's just a different lifestyle in my view, and there's no reason to view them as inferior to urbanised peoples). The dog2 (talk) 22:26, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Even places like Botswana or Central Africa also had rich history too but it's a sad pity that they also get ignored just like the sub-Saharan Africa or many other places in the world.
 * Papua New Guinea is another example, which is not far from both Asia and Australia. Unfortunately, the stereotype is that the country has many "uncivilized tribes" living in the highlands far from urbanised places when each of their cultures is quite unique. I'm sure that these these photos are not what most people think of PNG and will probably shock most. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:36, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

Mexican food in Adelaide
I was going to add a "Mexican" section in Australian cuisine but wanted to check how common is Mexican food in Adelaide as I never really went looking for them when I was last in Adelaide. At least in my area, Mexican restaurants are nearly everywhere, but it's mostly Mexican-American cuisine as opposed to the traditional Mexican style you'd get in Mexico and I had a similar experience when I last went to Melbourne and Brisbane, but how common is it in Adelaide? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:20, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've been to one Mexican restaurant in North Adelaide, but it's also more Mexican-American than authentic Mexican. I also remember that the food court at Marion Shopping Centre had a "Mexican" place along the lines of Taco Bell, but it was a local Australian chain. The dog2 (talk) 05:23, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * And in Adelaide, is it common to find Mexican chains like Taco Bell, Guzman y Gomez or Mad Mex? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:25, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't recall seeing any of them when I was in Adelaide. Vaticidalprophet has been in Adelaide more recently than I have, so he might be a better person to ask. But suffice to say, Mexican food was quite rare in Adelaide, and some Americans living in Adelaide told me that what they missed most about home was the Mexican food. The dog2 (talk) 05:31, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I guess they have yet to come to Adelaide yet. The Mexican food here in Sydney has only really popped up within the last seven or eight years, so it's pretty new here and (not exaggerated) you're probably ten times more likely to find Thai food. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:38, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the Mexican food presence in Adelaide is pretty negligible. Even in much bigger cities it's very, very low compared to what someone coming from anywhere in the Americas would expect. When I last visited there are GyGs now, but still very few. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 05:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I think Travellers' Pub was clear enough
Hi there. Did you forget this was already discussed in the Pub? I agree with what the others wrote at the time, that Uyghur independence and Xinjiang are utterly tangential topics during a visit by (mostly) English-speaking tourists to Turkey. There are lots of things that are true, that we nonetheless don't need to write about in a travel guide. But you know this already :-) ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:33, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

 * To add, the Turkish form of Xinjiang, Sincan, is in almost as common use as Doğu Türkistan, even by those with nationalist/pan-Turkist worldviews (who presumably are the most pro-Uyghur of a population already by and large pro-Uyghur). Vidimian (talk) 20:33, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

chips/fries
I think everyone here also now shortens it to "chips" as well, but "fries" is becoming increasingly common, even outside fast-food chains, and have recently seen two local cafes use "fries". Not sure whether it varies state-to-state, but perhaps we could write a longer explanation in Australian cuisine. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:50, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's been a number of years since I left Australia, so things might have changed since then. But back then, in casual conversation, everyone said "chips", and I never heard the word "fries" outside American fast food chains. In the small local takeaways selling roast chicken, it was always "chicken and chips". They may say they are going to buy some "fries" from McDonald's (or Maccas, if you'd like), but that's it. The dog2 (talk) 22:55, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's actually a pretty new trend, and I only noticed that in early December – a little less than two months ago. There's a increasing trend to use the North American version, at least in NSW but I don't know what it's like elsewhere. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:29, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Uyghur independence
This edit and this edit make questionable assertions about support for the Uyghur independence movement in Turkey and Kazakhstan. Even if the statements are true, do we really want to get to this level of granularity in telling readers what to talk about and what not to talk about? In my decades of travelling, including to China and Turkey (twice), the question of Uyghur independence has never come up in conversation. I would delete these comments, but I would like to hear other views on the question.Ground Zero (talk) 18:10, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Clear violation of tcf. We have a general issue with country articles becoming bloated with text not useful for the average traveller. /Yvwv (talk) 18:16, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I've reverted the additions. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:18, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Before the issue started to gain Western support, Turkey and Kazakhstan had already been providing refuge to many Uyghur independence activists who fled China. Of course, many fled to Western countries too (I dined at an Uyghur restaurant run by Uyghur independence activists in Australia, for instance), but Turkey and Kazakhstan have the largest concentration of Uyghur independence activists in non-Western countries, and there is most certainly a degree of kinship that the Turks and Kazakhs feel with the Uyghurs since they are all Turkic peoples. Unfortunately, I don't have Kazakh colleagues here, but nearly all the Turkish colleagues I have interacted with have expressed support for the Uyghur independence movement. The dog2 (talk) 20:20, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't doubt what you are saying, but I think few travellers would start talking about how wonderful the Chinese Uyghur policy is! In what scenario is this warning useful? We are anyway advised to tread lightly when discussing politics abroad. –LPfi (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Feelings in Ukraine
I reverted your edit on Ukraine. Any Finnish journalist who has commented on the polarization tell that the attack united the country: no one has any sympathy for Russia any more, and many Russian speaking Ukrainians have started to speak Ukrainian instead of Russian to demonstrate that point. The ethnic Russians are even more chocked than ethnic Ukrainians: how does bombing us help us? From where did you get the impression you wrote in the article? –LPfi (talk) 19:10, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Are you talking about ethnic Ukrainians who speak Russian, or actual ethnic Russians? What I've heard from YouTubers based in the Donbass (though those guys are naturally pro-Russia) is that the people there see Putin as a liberator from Ukrainian oppression. And the media can easily choose to interview and highlight the ethnic Russians who oppose Putin, since those people certainly exist. The dog2 (talk) 19:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

 * (Sorry for having had this discussion split up between my talk page and yours.)
 * I speak about actual ethnic Russians who live in Kharkiv or its surroundings (not those in Donetsk). And I don't listen to Fox news. Of course most Western media, including that of Finland, is biased in much of its reporting, because they get much of their international stuff from AP and the like, and are influenced by the general feelings in the west, including the discussion in quality media, likewise biased for similar reasons. But for Russia and Ukraine, we do have journalists who have lived in and travelled around the area for years. It's their reports we read and listen to now, in addition to the probably more biased interviews with Ukrainian (and Russian) expatriates and refugees, and domestic experts. Most of them have started their correspondent carrier in Russia, so there is no reason they would avoid getting Russian acquaintances, or not calling them to hear about their current sentiments.
 * I would be very reluctant to believe a word from media or youtubers from Russia or areas under Russian control elsewhere, unless I know them from before the invasion.
 * –LPfi (talk) 20:03, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Finland and NATO
For the second time you added a note that Finland has announced it will join NATO (former one in European history a week ago, I think, now in Finland). In the latest news here in Finland they say the decision is scheduled to be made informally during the weekend and formally on Monday. "Finland" cannot announce anything before formal decisions. Where have you got your information? –LPfi (talk) 17:21, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * here. The Finnish government has made the official announcement. Unless perhaps something got lost in translation (unfortunately, I don't understand Finnish so I can't read the original). The dog2 (talk) 17:23, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Here it was said that the President and the Prime Minister announced their personal opinion on Tuesday today. There was no decision yet, and "Finland" didn't say anything. It is unlikely that the Government (who makes the decision together with the President) won't follow their recommendation – most parties have announced they share that opinion – but it hasn't happened yet. –LPfi (talk) 17:29, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
 * The Finnish original seems to say "Now that the time for decision is close [...] our opinion [...] Finland must [...]". So very strong words, but not a decision, and their joint statement, not Finland's. The statement was cited at the top of the government's site, and the linked page is available in three languages, here a link to the English version. –LPfi (talk) 21:19, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

The dog2: this is the latest example in your long history of posting information about politics and history that is incorrect. These errors make work for other editors, whose time is better spent adding travel content. It also causes us to question the accuracy of everything you add. I believe that you should just stop making changes to text about politics and history. I also think that there are other editors who agree with me. I would prefer not to make a big deal of this. If necessary, I will escalate this to a discussion in the Pub, but I would order if you would just cease making such edits. Ground Zero (talk) 19:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Template:LunarNewYeardates
Could you provide me a reliable source to determine the lì chūn information for future years? I'd like to automate hte update of the content as done for Ramadan. Thanks, -- Andyrom75 (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Here's one from the Hong Kong government. I'll see if I can find others. Unfortunately, it is only in Chinese. Look for the row with the Chinese characters 立春. The second column gives the day, and the third column gives the time. The dog2 (talk) 17:13, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

High schools
You wrote "... equivalent of high schools in the West". Is that equivalent to high schools in the USA? The West doesn't have a common school system. –LPfi (talk) 16:19, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sort of. In Singapore primary school is 6 years, which is followed by 4 years of secondary school, and 2 years of junior college. So while it's not exactly the same, it is analogous to American senior high school. The dog2 (talk) 16:21, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't know the US system well, but I suppose the age is what counts. Edited accordingly. –LPfi (talk) 16:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

"General American" accent of Donald Trump
I guess you don't have a keen ear for New York accents. His New York accent is very clear, even if it's not quite as intense as Bernie's Brooklyn accent, but then Trump comes from Queens, and there are historically different accents in different boroughs. Anyway, please forgive me, but I'm going to edit your edit in the New York City article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:47, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 * By the way, I won't quote from it because of the WPost's paywall, but I see this much as a search result: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/09/whats-up-with-donald-trumps-voice/ Donald Trump's accent, explained - The Washington Post Feb 9, 2016 "Trump's working-class New York accent may also help the billionaire appear a bit more relatable on the stump." Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 * A somewhat different take at https://pix11.com/news/local-news/who-has-the-better-new-york-accent-sanders-or-trump/:

 * Trump’s accent, according to the professor, reflects his different socioeconomic background and upbringing from Sanders more than the fact that Sanders is from Brooklyn and Trump from Queens.

 * “Donald Trump was born into a rich family, went to school with other rich kids,” Professor Newman said, “but his accent is still very much New York.”

 * So take your pick, but don't argue that he has a "General American" accent, whatever you mean by that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:57, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 * OK. I remembered watching a video on YouTube where they said you can tell from the accents that Donald Trump came from a rich family, and Bernie Sanders came from a working class family. What I certainly noticed is that Trump's accent is rhotic (like most other American accents), while Bernie's accent is non-rhotic (like a typical New York accent). I think this is the one. Also, there was another video saying that there is no specific Bronx or Brooklyn accent, and really, accents differed based on ethnicity. So an Italian New Yorker, an Irish New Yorker and Jewish New Yorker for instance would have somewhat different accents, due to the influences from their respective ancestral languages. Have a look at this. I think in the Vice video, they also mentioned that Bernie Sanders' accent is indicative of his Jewish ethnic background.

 * By the way, I recommend watching the whole series of the Wired video if you are interested in the linguistics of American English. I learnt from those videos that the accents of Latinos differ geographically depending on which country the Latin America immigrants in that region came from, so a New York Latino accent will have a more Puerto Rican and Dominican twang, a Miami Latino accent will have a more Cuban twang, and a Southern California Latino accent will have a more Mexican twang. The dog2 (talk) 17:38, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Brooklyn Italian-Americans and Jews can really sound the same, and far from all New York accents are non-rhotic. Mine is rhotic. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:10, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

 * OK, now there's a specific New York dialect of AAVE and Spanglish? Is it as different from Upstate New York dialects as the New York City accent(s) is (are)? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:33, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

 * You should watch the Wired video I posted. They got a black linguist and a Latina linguist to go through the dialectal differences in AAVE and Latino English between different parts of the country. They are experts who can explain it better than I can. The dog2 (talk) 00:59, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Revert
Fair enough, I see what you're getting at now. We could make it more specifically about the other country than the reader's home country, though. I'll have a go, tell me what you think.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Sure. As an example, if you talk to Chinese people living in the U.S., you'll find that most of them absolutely loathe the Chinese government, especially since Xi Jinping took office. But if you travel to China and think the people living there will have the same views, you might be in for a rude shock because he actually enjoys strong support domestically, and this has been corroborated by studies done by the Harvard Kennedy School and Pew Research (and I presume that such reputable institutions would have already taken the lack of political freedoms in China into account when they publish their studies). My own experience too is that the Chinese nationals living in Singapore (where they have the freedom to speak out against the Chinese government and read Western news sources) tend to be more supportive of the Chinese government compared to those living in the U.S. The dog2 (talk) 15:12, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, makes sense. I have two new colleagues from HK.
 * I replaced your paragraph with mostly different words to emphasise the visitor's experience. It's a little awkwardly-worded though.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:56, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It actually looks pretty good to me. The dog2 (talk) 16:07, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Special:Diff/4535450
Interesting. Didn't know that German restaurants also serve pork (the only German restaurant I've been to was in California), but I guess that's something new I've learned. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 02:15, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

 * Germans are known for their crispy skin roast pork, and there are quite a number of restaurants in South Australia that do pretty decent ones. Even if they're not specifically German restaurants, South Australia has a lot of German heritage, especially in the Barossa Valley, so even some non specifically German restaurants serve very good crispy skin roast pork. And here in Chicago, one of the German restaurants makes a very good crispy skin pork knuckle on Saturdays only. Germans also make lots of pork sausages, and you can find quite a stall called Barossa Fine Foods in Adelaide Central Market that sells pretty good ones. And if you want explore German heritage in the U.S., the Midwest is where you should go to. Not California. The dog2 (talk) 02:22, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ooh, this has made me want to stop over at Hahndorf when I visit Adelaide later this year (and I probably will now). I was aware that SA does have a strong German heritage, but I didn't expect it to be this strong. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 02:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)
 * As a side point, I know Australia does not have much Spanish heritage, but if you want pork, besides German restaurants, Spanish restaurants are a good bet too. The Philippines has suckling pig because of the legacy of Spanish colonial rule. If you ever travel to Spain, you'll notice how pork-heavy their diet is. Also, in the rest of Southeast Asia, roast pork was mainly brought there by Cantonese immigrant, so in places like Malaysia, Thailand, Vietnam, and even Singapore, if you see crispy skin pork belly, it's likely that the stall owner is of Cantonese descent. You often find crispy skin roast pork in Vietnamese areas in Australia because many of boat people who fled Vietnam were ethnic Chinese, and most ethnic Chinese in Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon) are of Cantonese descent. The dog2 (talk) 14:29, 7 October 2022 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
Thanks so much. Happy holidays to you too. The dog2 (talk) 04:03, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

re Special:Diff/4586725
Indeed. Parks like Pribaikalsky National Park and the Russian Far East are really impressive and are one of their kind. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 05:28, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of listings in grand old hotels
I do not think listings should be deleted without prior discussion. Notice that there is no criteria for a hotel to be 4- or 5-star. If you read the preamble it says: "Some hotels have a heritage from the golden age of steam railways and ocean liners; before the Second World War, in the 19th or early 20th centuries. These hotels were where the rich and the famous of the day would stay. They have an appeal all their own: old fashioned fittings, the lack of the latest amenities, and a certain graceful agedness. They are often in superb locations, either smack in the middle of cities – very often being next to a major railway station, as they were often constructed to house railway travelers – or close to major outdoor attractions. For this article, we also include numerous mid-20th century hotels that are iconic and historically significant". Colonial hotels in Africa, especially a 3 star hotel in Senegal would definitively qualify. Jonte-- (talk) 11:08, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * The question is, is it still grand? If it's run down and dirty these days, then it's not grand, is it? The dog2 (talk) 17:09, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Depending. If the interiors are destroyed, then probably not, but shouldn't we discuss them on the talk page? Especially just mentioning stars in the edit summary sets a bad precedent: somebody else might might remove a hotel because of it not having more than three stars, although it might still be grand. What star rating are we using? Aren't television and minibar required for 4 star in some systems? What 19th century hotels had these? Are they required for our article? –LPfi (talk) 14:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure, I'm happy to discuss them on the talk page. I was doing Google searches and these ones didn't look that grand anymore. But if anyone has been there and shows that it's still grand, then sure, we can put it back. The dog2 (talk) 16:12, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

Pork is not banned in Israel
This is simply false:

"Pork is rare or in some countries banned due to Islamic or Jewish customs."

There isn't a single country in the world where pork is banned due to Jewish Law or customs. Can you please stop edit warring in the Middle East article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:57, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

 * It says "rare or in some countries banned". I presume pork will be rare in Israel even if it may be legal since pork is taboo in Judaism, but if that's not true, correct me. The dog2 (talk) 13:04, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * If I may say so, you presume too much, you care too much about arcane minutiae totally outside ttcf and WV:Tone, you seem to need to exaust all the subject matter's angles and nooks and cronies in print on every article, especially the top ones in the hierarchy. Sorry to sound harsh. But sometimes it gets tiresome to copyedit all the stuff you're trying to add. Ibaman (talk) 13:33, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The sentence can be read "Pork is rare, or in some countries banned due to Islamic or Jewish customs." The lack of a comma does not make it clear that pork is not banned in Israel. So it serves the traveller and fairness best to phrase the sentence more carefully. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:14, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * OK, I've rephrased it to try to avoid the misunderstanding. Please have a look and make further edits if necessary. The dog2 (talk) 18:23, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the current phrasing is OK. Thanks for working with me. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:11, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Special:Diff/4652888
Does the Don River Railway count? -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 21:35, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Sure. I lived in South Australia, so the ones in South Australia are the ones that I know of, but I'm sure there are some elsewhere in Australia that are worth listing. The dog2 (talk) 22:02, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've never really seemingly paid attention to many heritage railways (except when I was in Tasmania last summer), but List of heritage railways in Australia has a good list of some heritage railways. There aren't many in my area, but that's because I live in an area of Sydney that's been heavily redeveloped and every other railway near me is used in some way or form. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 11:39, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Australia
Hello, can we talk about my contribution to the Australia article? 219.88.232.230 05:08, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

 * Sure, but please raise it on the talk page for Australia. I just don't think your edits improved the article. For instance, there's no point in listing the visas based on price because which visa you are eligible for is really based on your nationality, and you don't really get a choice. But if you disagree, bring it up on the Australia talk page and see what other editors say. Until we have consensus, status quo bias applies. The dog2 (talk) 05:12, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I have raised it Talk:Australia219.88.232.230 05:30, 16 June 2023 (UTC)

Special:Diff/4684170
Looks about right to me, but I don't know a lot about the nitty-gritty aspects of firearm regulations since I've never had the need to find them out. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 06:34, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

China: Visa policy
It appears that your page doesn't show the maximum stays for each visa-free country. Here's what I'm found on the FMPRC's Department of Consular Affairs (please click "入境居留" for information): Best wishes.廣九直通車 (talk) 03:43, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * San Marino (90 days)
 * Kazakhstan (30 days)
 * BiH (90 days)
 * Mauritus (60 days)
 * Armenia (90 days)

 * It's mentioned in a sentence below the table. But OK, since you have an official Chinese government source indicating a longer allowed period of stay, I won't revert. I just think that for visa requirements, an official Chinese government source should always be trusted over Wikipedia. The dog2 (talk) 03:54, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I had updated the provisions. To be accurate, it's almost impossible to input all source links in the edit summary, so for the next time, perhaps more sources can be inputted in the talk page?廣九直通車 (talk) 12:51, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Why wouldn't you take 10 seconds to look this up?
Addiny incorrect information about drug laws could be dangerous for readers, and undermines the credibility of Wikivoyage. Why wouldn't you take 10 seconds to Google this before adding it? Ground Zero (talk) 02:14, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Ledes
Hey, re split paragraph ledes, I really think it's important that we have a nice thick lede paragraph, when possible. My reasoning is, ledes are the fundamental thing that drive non-desktop access to Wikvoyage sites. For example, click on any non-important location on Google Maps, and you get an API request for a lede from Wikipedia. They do this because Wikipedia generally has good juicy ledes, before any newline cuts it off. We should aspire to this. I have a dream of someday typing some travel-related query into Google and they use our ledes! That might not ever happen, but good thick ledes are also fundamentally important to people who don't access WV over a desktop device. I feel like our weird three-paragraph or like "xxx is a country in yyyy, next line" ledes are a hangover from our WT days. So I'm basically asking you to keep thick paragraph ledes. Brycehughes (talk) 07:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

 * You should probably take this discussion to the pub and see what the community says. Long paragraphs can be hard to read when you're pressed for time. The dog2 (talk) 14:03, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not talking anything crazy. Just more than one sentence. Brycehughes (talk) 00:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * But anyway, I don't have the authority to decide this issue unilaterally. You need to take it to the pub and get a consensus on how our ledes should be. The dog2 (talk) 00:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think there is consensus on trying to include interesting stuff in the first paragraph and to leave boring details to Understand. I haven't seen what edits this is about, but I think using some common sense, knowing that only the first paragraph will show in some contexts, will go a long way. –LPfi (talk) 11:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Of course the lede needs to be interesting. That's not what is being disputed. The issue is on whether or not we want long single-paragraph ledes. The dog2 (talk) 14:51, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think it's best for the first paragraph to be more than just "Destination X is a city in Y", but I also think it's reasonable to split the lede into multiple paragraphs if it's long enough that a single paragraph would look like a wall of text. Would anyone be able to point to examples of the ledes that led to this discussion? —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Brycehughes is the one who is pushing for long single-paragraph ledes. The Thailand article is one example. It doesn't look too bad when on computer, but looks really long when viewed on a mobile device. The dog2 (talk) 15:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not really "pushing" anything hard here, more a suggestion. I don't think two or three sentences to begin is too thick for a mobile viewer (I use mobile all the time). And a single-sentence is just awkward writing. Brycehughes (talk)
 * The earlier version of the Thailand lede had a short first paragraph, but one that packs a punch by starting with a bunch of description of why travelers might want to go there. The current first paragraph is on the long side, and since the lede is supposed to draw the reader in, I think it makes sense to go for something bite-sized in this part of the article. Still, it's not that long – only about half a screen on my mobile device and a similar length to Singapore's first paragraph. This intermediate version seems reasonable to me in terms of paragraph length.
 * To be honest I'm not a huge fan of the current lead. I find parts of it ("some never find a reason to leave", "it can be a little hard to get to know the 'real' Thailand, but if you get off the beaten track and dig deep enough...", "Thailand is what you make of it") a little trite and generic. One might say the same things about anywhere from Las Vegas to Barcelona. In the spirit of "show, don't tell", can we convey this information in a way that shows more of the flavor of Thailand specifically? —Granger (talk · contribs) 16:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, writing is not my biggest strength, but in principle I agree that the lede should emphasise what is attractive about Thailand. Westerners tend to go there for the beaches of course, but it's also a great shopping and dining destination. And not to mention some really beautiful temples. My experience is that the sex tourism is there only if you go looking for it, but if you want to experience the local Thai culture, you can find it quite easily in Bangkok too and don't have to go way off the beaten track. The last time I went to Bangkok, I specifically sought out the food stalls that locals patronised and avoided the tourist traps on Khao San Road. With a bit of online research, you can avoid the tourist traps too. The dog2 (talk) 16:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I think the current lead could very well be split in two, with the first ending in the sentence on land of smiles. The rest, starting with "It has relatively good infrastructure" is quite boring, with most of the phrases Granger quotes. Even if rewritten, that part has nothing that needs to be in the first paragraph. –LPfi (talk) 19:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd be very happy to see it rewritten – I'm not the best writer either. What I was trying to convey with "it can be a little hard to get to know the 'real' Thailand" is that, compared to its neighbours in the region, many of its attractions feel somewhat purged of culture and authenticity for the sake of maximising tourist income. This isn't unique to Thailand globally, but in my experience (been there three times, currently live in SE Asia), it feels truer there (Bali excepted). (On the other hand, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that objectively and I wanted to make sure I balanced that out with the positive.) I'm not sure the comparison to Barcelona or Vegas is quite on point, although honestly I'm not a big fan of those two cities but that's just my personal style. Anyway, all that is to say, I don't mind if we drop that line. Re-reading "Thailand is what you make of it", is extremely boring (embarrassing for me), I might just delete that now. Brycehughes (talk) 00:37, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * To some degree, yes, if you go to the transgender cabarets for instance. But it's also not that difficult to find places that the locals would patronise. Bangkok Chinatown may seem like a tourist trap, but the food stalls I ate at were patronised by the locals too. Some of them serve things like offal that most Westerners would typically shun. The dog2 (talk) 00:42, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't say it's just the cabarets, Khaosan Rd, etc. For what it's worth, I spent a month in Bangkok a year or two ago and ate at some fantastic places, met some incredible people, but I was very much off the beaten path in Bangkok. So yeah I'd agree with you about tourist Bangkok, but also the known islands, Phuket (gawd), "up north" (you know what I mean), and basically anywhere the crowds go. It feels like SE Asian Orlando a lot of the time. But that's just my opinion and in my boring-ish lede I was just trying to be fair, and if anyone here wants to "fix" my writing I have absolutely no problem with that, in fact I'd appreciate it. Brycehughes (talk) 09:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, who is a good writer around here? Most of us just seem to be logic nerds (myself included), and sometimes when I see some really good writing I look up who wrote it and they either disappeared back in the transition or were banned later for being extreme in some random case (which is also kind of a sign of being a good writer). So sincerely curious is there anyone here we can be like hey can you make some of this beautiful? Brycehughes (talk) 10:13, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Alright Granger I don't LOVE it love it, but it's pretty fuckin good. Bravo. Maybe you're our good writing guy (sorry I don't actually know how to check for pronouns on Wikimedia sites, so correct me if I'm wrong) Brycehughes (talk) 15:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm glad you like it. To be honest I didn't write that much of it, I was mostly adapting material from "Understand". I think my own writing is a mixed bag – sometimes in an article for a destination I know well, I can write a lede I'm proud of, but in other cases I struggle. (By the way, not to start a tangent, but I mentioned Las Vegas and Barcelona because they're cities I really enjoyed even though I'm not big on the most famous attractions like gambling, beaches, and traditional nightlife. Barcelona is a great destination for art, architecture, Catalan culture, history, and cuisine, and Las Vegas is fun for people-watching, nature, and a surprising variety of entertainment. Both are cities where, in my opinion, it's well worth trying to dig beneath the surface.) —Granger (talk · contribs) 17:00, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I really like your Thailand lede. (On the tangent, and only for the fun of it, I think Las Vegas is really fun for a particular thing that I went for at age 21, but I wouldn't exactly scream hey mum go to Las Vegas, but it is what it is and I would totally recommend if you haven't been there... nobody goes to Vegas not knowing what they're getting into. Re Barcelona.. ehhh just felt so overcooked to me [been there twice], like a lot of things in Europe, and obviously I'd say yeah it's a must go, but head north or even south and you're going to get a more authentic experience. I'm a bit a judgy bitch though. Don't really like that part of Spain all that much) Brycehughes (talk) 17:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

 * Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. The dog2 (talk) 03:55, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, Merry Christmas dog2. Brycehughes (talk) 09:40, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Merry Christmas to you too. The dog2 (talk) 18:11, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

January 2024
You recently reverted my edit on China. I wanted to clairify - under Chinese civil aviation regs you must not have your phone out at all when the aircraft is moving. RetroCosmos (talk) 15:36, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * You mean even when you put it in flight mode? If that's the case then sure, add it back, but make sure you indicate that even using flight mode is technically not allowed. The dog2 (talk) 15:55, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Is this really true? I've flown domestically in China a few times and internationally to and from China many times, and I can't remember ever hearing about this rule. I used my phone in airplane mode during most if not all of those flights and I don't remember flight attendants saying anything to me about it. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Vietnamese phrasebook
Typically, a hole-in-the-wall restaurant's waiters and waitresses are young people, so "Em ơi" is most oftenly correct. However, the pronoun should be changed depending on the age of that person and yourself:

 * "Bạn ơi": Literally "friend", but commonly used to address a 20-ish staffer by both people of that age and (much) older people.
 * "Anh ơi": When the male staffer looks older than you, but the age difference is not too large.
 * "Chị ơi": Same as above, but for female. It might be better to use this than the next to address women in their fifties, due to you-know-what.
 * "Cô ơi": When the female staffer is much older than you, somewhere around your parents' age.
 * "Chú ơi": Same as above, but for male.
 * "Bác ơi": May be use for both genders; this implies that the staffer is a bit older than even your parents.

There's also "Ông ơi" and "Bà ơi" for very old people; you wouldn't find a waiter/waitress of this age, so such a person is either the owner or the owner's parent. If they still participate in the restaurant's business, they would work as a manager (both), a cashier (both) or the lead cook (female).

"Phục vụ! Làm ơn..." is something I would never say. Frankly, it is a bit too formal; I personally have never heard anyone use it. I'm not sure about customers of classy restaurants though, since I'm not one of those. Having said that, it is fine if the speaker is a foreigner; I'm sure that people will understand.

NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh (talk) 22:11, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks for the explanation. I think we should find a way to cover this in the article, but without it getting too long. The dog2 (talk) 22:18, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Phrases without translations
You recently added
 * 'Remembering the Cantonese phrase 我食齋 (ngóh sihk jāai) also goes a long way in getting your point across.'

It would be very nice if there was some kind of translation, which would help me utter the phrase in the right context. Does it say "I am vegetarian", "Do you have any vegetarian dishes?", "[…] made in a vegetarian way, please" or something else? This kind of shorthand reminders work well for those who understand the language, but aren't very helpful on their own for people like me, who cannot parse the phrase.

There is a similar problem in Indonesia (I don't know who added it), see Talk:Indonesia. If you know enough of the language, please clarify in that article also.

–LPfi (talk) 18:43, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It literally means "I eat vegetarian food.", but that is also the way people would tell others that they are vegetarians. The dog2 (talk) 18:49, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I added it to the article. Tweak as you like. (It is nice how such a short explanation tells things about how the language in question works.) –LPfi (talk) 19:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Please stop telling people not to criticize Israel
I reverted this because it's not about Judaism and just ridiculously purple prose. Tantamount to Holocaust-denial? You have gone off the deep end. Please stop. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Surveys of American Jews have shown that about 70% see support for Israel as integral to their Jewish identity. I've only met one Singaporean Jew in my lifetime so far given that the community is very small, but he too supports Israel. I usually avoid political discussions of Israel when I know a Jewish person is around given the sensitivity of the issue, but I have heard quite a number of otherwise liberal American Jews specifically support Donald Trump's Israel policy, even though they are opposed to all his other policies. And for that matter, quite a number of Jewish donors to the top American universities have demanded that the universities shut down all pro-Palestinian protests if they want to continue receiving funding. The dog2 (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * That's not about Judaism, and you can consider support for Israel to be of basic importance and still hold the country to high standards. Just stop. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:56, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 * No matter how many times other contributors plead with The dog2 to stop filling up respect sections with their own personal observations, or injecting personal opinions and things that are factually wrong into Politics and History sections, The dog2 continues to do so. Imagine how much more constructive their engagement with Wikivoyage would be if they were to listen to other contributors, instead of arguing every point. Ground Zero (talk) —The preceding comment was added on 21:20, January 24, 2024 (UTC)

Happy Lunar New Year!
Hi, The dog2, wishing you a happy and prosperous Lunar New Year! Let's hope the year of the dragon brings good times ahead. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 13:08, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

 * (also, I typed this at 00:08 UTC+11; apologies if I sent the message a day too early) SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 13:11, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Happy New Year to you too. The dog2 (talk) 16:39, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Swedish and English proficiency in Finland
The language proficiency patterns are complicated – in Finland as probably in any country. While "Finnish people" may have told you that non-Swedish-speaking people usually are more proficient in English than Swedish, that's not all the truth. I assume that most young Finns who don't interact with the Swedish-speaking have that impression, as that's the dominant narrative in some circles. On the other hand, if you live as Swedish-speaking in a bilingual town, you will meet Finns who are just as confident speaking Swedish as their mother tongue (nearly 30% of students at Åbo Akademi are Finnish-speaking). People who speak English even weekly in varying contexts are a quite limited group, so while many think they master the language and indeed speak it pretty well, their repertoire and ability to convey nuances in English may still be limited.

As of 2005 (through Wikipedia), 63% of the population claimed to be conversant in English, 47% in Swedish. For young people the figures have probably changed a bit but still, both are commonly spoken and not everybody can speak English comfortably.

Here at Wikivoyage, the main point is still elsewhere. Who benefit from our telling that Finns master English better than Swedish? Foreigners not from Sweden usually don't speak any Swedish, so the statement is irrelevant for them. It matters for the Swedish, whom we can discourage from using their mother tongue. If they try Swedish, they might be lucky. If not, reverting to English is no worse than having started the conversation in that language.

–LPfi (talk) 21:12, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Whitewater sports
Please read Talk:Whitewater sports. By adding the disambiguation page Rocky Mountains you show that you didn't even check what Wikivoyage has to offer in the article.

If you want to point the reader to possibilities not yet covered by our articles, please at least tell them why they should look at the Rocky Mountains instead of some random other place, what kind of whitewatering the area has to offer and where they should start looking. Following a link to articles with no information is just frustrating, especially when the article is reasonably long as in this case.

For Costa Rica, a link just to the country article gives the impression that there is nothing to be found, like for the Rockies and the European countries I removed. Instead linking Costa Rica and giving a short summary of it would show that the link indeed is worth following.

–LPfi (talk) 09:00, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the new additions. –LPfi (talk) 18:19, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

license/number plate
Although it never comes up in conversation, Australia these days seems to use both. On most government documents they use "number plate" (or simply "plate"), but the rise of Wilson and Secure Parkings has resulted in an increase in "license plate" (with that spelling). This is not an East Coast-specific thing, as I've seen it in SA too, but it's pretty recent (last 10 years, maybe?). -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 22:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I just went by what I saw in the government documents, and based on what I had to study for my driving theory test in Australia. But I do recall people usually just say "plate" since it's usually obvious from context what you mean. The dog2 (talk) 22:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Probably also because both terms seem to be a handful – even myplates (NSW) seems to be only using "plate". -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 22:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Update request for Azerbaijan and Karabakh
Hello.

Can you update two relevant topics in the Azerbaijan and Karabakh articles?

Since March 2020, originally due to the COVID-19 pandemic and now due to "national security reasons", all land borders of Azerbaijan remain indefinitely closed to all passenger traffic (bus, train, car and on foot) including for Azerbaijani citizens. Only cargo (trucks and railway only) from Georgia, Russia, Iran and Turkey, is allowed to enter and leave the country by land. Passenger traffic to and from Azerbaijan is only allowed by airplane. The ban is extended every four months, since March 2020, and has not been abolished.

Official Azerbaijani source: https://nk.gov.az/az/senedler/qerarlar/azerbaycan-respublikasinin-erazisinde-xususi-karan-7580 (in Azerbaijani, but can be translated via a machine translator)

English language source: https://eurasianet.org/azerbaijan-land-borders-remain-sealed-for-individuals-but-not-trade

Karabakh needs to be updated as well, because the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh Republic (Artsakh) ceased to exist in 2023, after Azerbaijan took all of it. After the fighting and total depopulation of the Armenians in Karabakh, it remains off limits to Azerbaijani civilians as well.

Yours sincerely, 31.200.23.185 17:28, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

 * I'm not very familiar with both areas, but if you know about it, plunge forward and make the changes. We've already updated the Karabakh article to reflect the new situation. The dog2 (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information. The "Get in" section is large and detailed and daunting for me to change from to to bottom. Can you add the information? 31.200.23.185 17:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * It is daunting for everybody, and probably easier for you to do than for somebody who doesn't know the area. –LPfi (talk) 18:24, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Please stop adding text to Politics and Respect sections
So many times, other editors and I have asked you to stop doing this. Your edits are not credible. When you add a statement like, and don't even bother to defend it, we conclude that you are just making stuff up. This is disruptive to Wikivoyage. Continuing to edit add more stuff to Respect sections while everyone is complaining about your edits shows contempt for the Wikivoyage community. Back off. Ground Zero (talk) 18:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Topic ban (official notice)
Hello, The dog2, as per the consensus on Wikivoyage:User ban nominations, you have now been topic banned from editing "Respect" sections anything to do with politics and other sensitive issues until January 12, 2025, 23:54 (UTC). This ban only applies in mainspace, you are still free to discuss such on talk pages. The conditions of the ban are vague, but apply it conservatively and with common sense (so fixing typos/reverting spam or vandalism to such sections is fine). -- SHB2000  (t | c | m) 07:59, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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Pictures of Taiwanese food
Thanks for your great work on documenting Taiwanese food, but it should go on the Taiwan page (where you'll already find quite a few dishes and pics), not Taipei. (WT-en) Jpatokal 14:02, 28 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I see.. I just added the pictures to the already created list. The list itself would be a duplicate of the one on Taiwan already, I didn't realize that. Feel free to move stuff to the other page, if I have time some day I might do it myself, but I'm kinda busy now. Probably have to leave a line like "please see Taiwan for Taiwanese food in general", we can list a few night market specific foods on the Taipei page perhaps?. (WT-en) SuperMidget 18:50, 28 August 2008 (EDT)

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It is very unfortunate that city of Hyderabad and Visakhapatnam is missing in the list of tuorist destinations in India, these cities fare much better than the tourist destinations that were mentioned in the list. My personal opinion is that the list is made in an arbitrary manner rather than the merit the places do possess. This is one way of indignating our national pride. Some of the locations bring indignation to the nation. We may feel that we are including the name of the places that we feel are good. The selection should be made on the basis of some creteria for selection and the place should have strength to be in the list.I strongly object to the way the places are selected and it needs either revision or make the list more bigger to accomodate more places.

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User talk:(WT-en) Surfcrs

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for adding information to Oceanside, but I had to rollback your change. Check out Project:External links to get the details on our link policy, but we don't link to external travel guides since we'd like our guides to be self-contained (and that way useful printed out or offline). Additionally, please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Majnoona 22:13, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Surfing.mentawai

Hi! Please don't tout, only list your business once and read wbo. (WT-en) Jc8136 07:49, 19 April 2012 (EDT)
 * Hi! You seem to not have read your talk page. You can only list your business once. Please stop adding your listing again. Otherwise all your listings will be deleted. (WT-en) Jc8136 09:10, 19 April 2012 (EDT) P.S. you are block for 15 mins to learn about our policies.
 * Hi! I have to warn you, that the continious touting from you might lead to the deletion of your currently remaining listing. As stated above only one listing per article is allowed. Stop touting! (WT-en) Jc8136 09:54, 19 April 2012 (EDT)

I've blocked this account for two hours due to repeatedly adding and re-adding advertising material to the Mentawai Islands article. To the owner of this account: as mentioned above, you need to read Project:Don't tout - using Wikivoyage for advertising is strongly discouraged. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 01:22, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) SurfingSpider

Hello SurfingSpider!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thank you for contributing to Afghanistan and Qaila Jangi, though you might want to have another look at the latter to see if my copyedit makes sense now the page has a template. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:58, 12 Jul 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Surfinnhermosa

Hello, Surfinnhermosa! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Erm, thanks for your contributions, but why have you created two Playa Hermosa's?

 * Cool, I've created a disambiguation page, if you could fill in the gaps, that'd be nice. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 22:16, 26 October 2009 (EDT)

 * I think I have cleaned it up now. There is actually 4 hermosas, so I tried to list them from north to south. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Surfinnhermosa (talk • contribs)

 * Indeed, thank you for clearing that up! By the way, you can sign your talk page comments by typing four tildes ( ~ ). --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:12, 8 November 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Surf rik

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) - Cacahuate 03:25, 25 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) SurfsideRealty

Hello, SurfsideRealty! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Please also read Welcome, business owners for more information for business owners. Also make sure not to place your business in country articles (such as the USA), but instead place it in the relevant city articles (or district articles in case a city has districts). Also make sure you don't tout, use a traveller perspective instead. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 15:07, 22 January 2010 (EST)

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