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Talk:List of Swiss cantons

vfd discussion

 * List of Swiss cantons. Doesn't follow the MOS in that it's not presented as a region.  This sort of information should be in Switzerland.  Additionally we already have a list of Swiss regions which are more tuned to a traveller's need than are the political boundaries of the cantons (which are too numerous and often too small to be useful on their own.) -- (WT-en) Mark 03:55, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Keep. These "list of" articles, although they're outside our normal hierarchy, provide a valuable release valve for pressure to list every canton (say) on the country page itself. They also are useful for making sure no canton, state, or country gets lost accidentally by shifts in the "container" articles. For example, I used List of Mexican states to help re-organize the hierarchy in Mexico. They also have low overhead, since they're just lists. --(WT-en) Evan 08:51, 7 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Keep. They're very useful to keep isIn tidy. (WT-en) Simone 04:46, 9 Feb 2006 (EST)
 * Keep. -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:54, 20 Feb 2006 (EST)

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Talk:List of US Interstates

I would hold off on this, there is most definitely not consensus to start creating a bunch of highway articles, let's continue discussion before creating a page-creation magnet – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 04:18, 7 December 2008 (EST)
 * Ok. Sorry. I hope I'm not getting as irritating as edmontonenthusiast. Anyways, Texugo wrote on my talk page about this and I responded here. (WT-en) AHeneen 05:10, 7 December 2008 (EST)

 * No need to apologize, just throwing in my 2 cents :) – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 12:56, 7 December 2008 (EST)

 * From where did this list come? I-86 seems to be missing (the east-coast instance of I-86 is 191 miles long), and there may be others.  (WT-en) LtPowers 17:40, 7 December 2008 (EST)
 * There are a couple of interstates that are split into two segments and listed separately in the wikipedia article. I-86 west is only 62 miles...maybe I saw that and skipped the east segment. The list is: if you''d like to check. (WT-en) AHeneen 02:02, 8 December 2008 (EST)
 * I added all interstates except 12-mile long Interstate 74 (East) to the list, the <20 mile long Hawaiian interstates, and the unsigned Alaskan and Puerto Rican Interstates. I am fairly sure the list is updated and complete now. (WT-en) AHeneen 02:55, 8 December 2008 (EST)

External link
Someone added an external link which appears useful but I'm not sure we should link to it -- it looks like it might be commercial in nature. (WT-en) LtPowers 15:20, 23 December 2008 (EST)

VFD Discussion

 * Keep. This one was part of the mass Project:Votes for deletion/May_2010 nomination, and as often happens when multiple articles are nominated together there were arguments made for keeping this article separately from the other list articles.  The article claims that it is part of the Project:Routes Expedition, so until that expedition completes I think it makes sense to keep this article. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 22:05, 30 May 2010 (EDT)

Result: Kept. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 23:48, 14 June 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Litang

I recently edited the section on the Crane Hotel based on my recent travel experiences. I unfortunately forgot to sign in before editing. My wikipedia username is: ericcjensen. I hope that my honest reviews met the fairness standards set my wikivoyage. --ericcjensen

www.phayul.com is blocked in China. It would be good to add a website that actually works here. 221.236.235.223 07:03, 20 October 2009 (EDT)

How to approach major changes
Just came back from Litang last week (Early May 2023) and a lot has changed. Can I delete sections that are no longer up to date? Some restaurants and hotels have shut down, new ones opened up, the bus schedule has changed etc. I don't want to simply delete stuff. Kelvinchalky (talk) 12:57, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
 * , welcome to Wikivoyage, "the free worldwide travel guide that you can edit." You've just been to Litang, so you know more about the place than anyone else here, so changes you make will benefit any reader who travels there. Please make any changes that you think need to be made. Don't hesitate! If a restaurant or hotel is closed, please delete the listing -- information about a closed restaurant or hotel is of no use to travellers. Thanks for your updates so far. Ground Zero (talk) 13:20, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Litchfield National Park

The text in this article is from my article on Litchfield National Park in wikipedia (WT-en) Tiles 22:29, 6 Aug 2003 (PDT)

Adelaide River township
How is that related to this park? -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Literary London

Interesting idea-- but it seems like a draft/brainstorm that is maybe better worked on outside of the mainspace... I'm concerned that information that should be in the London article (or one of its distric articles) will only be found here... Could this be more of an itinerary just linking to the areas to visit? Again, I really like the idea, I think it just needs some planning... (WT-en) Majnoona 14:21, 1 Oct 2004 (EDT)

If attractions are going to be listed here (and i really think they belong under their geographical location), please use Project:Attraction listings format... And are sites supposed to be listed under their lit connection? or is it a flat list? (WT-en) Majnoona 14:25, 1 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * Hi Maj. Worry not.... The only link so far to this page is from mine and Evan's conversation last night in the pub. I've been up in Oxford all day so haven't had chance to knock my late night brainstorming into proper shape. Intention is to list by literary association, e.g. by author, or movement, etc. The info can and will also be duplicated into the relevant London area article pages (i.e. on a geographical basis), though perhaps at a less detailed level for the general guide. On a theme page we could probably go into a little more detail than usual, develop the theme, and meet the more exacting needs of those who, for example in this instance, are interested in the city's literary heritage above all other things..... Obviously this is somewhat uncharted territory, so.... Let's see how we go. (WT-en) Pjamescowie 20:05, 1 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Agreed with Maj here, this is basically an itinerary, and I don't think this should be namespaced as a district. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:14, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * Well, I'm not sure the page is namespaced as a district, whatever that might mean. It's just an article really, like any other. I think it would only be regarded as a London district if it was listed that way, in that section, on the initial London page - but it isn't! (and won't be....!) I have moved the page to be a subset of London, reflected in the breadcrumb menu at the top, but that's merely so people can better find their way back to the main city article. Moreover, the page manifestly isn't an itinerary, merely a summary of sights and experiences relevant to those interested in visiting London's literary heritage. People will be able to dip in and out, make their selection, or visit every attraction - whatever they choose. In any case, the appearance of the article in this namespace derives from the blank articles projected in Evan's response to my initial suggestion in the Travellers' Pub - I simply took my lead from this.... If people want to debate the pros and cons of theme page namespaces, however, I guess we better get started..... (WT-en) Pjamescowie 04:54, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * I don't think the term "itinerary" should be interpreted too strictly, it can mean more than a list of "Day 1: Place X, Day 2: Place Y". See Off the beaten track in Japan for another non-itinerary of sorts.

 * And I'd prefer to reserve "subset" pages for districts only, mostly because they're a real hassle to link to. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:34, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * I agree with Jpatokal-- If we're going to start using "/" for anything besides geographical subdivisions then there should be some Big Talk about it. It seems like it could get real fuzzy real fast leading to Place/SubPlace/Topic/SubTopic and other cataloging nightmares... We've always (and I mean from way back before their was a site) aimed for a flat site, so that link pages could create multiple navigational points of entry across topics, places, etc. This makes for easier navigation and maintenence as the site grows (and boy is it!) We've made an exception for Districts, but I'd have a hard time seeing it go any further. If you're just doing it for the breadcrumb, keep in mind we hope to have more automagical relationships ("is part of" "see also" etc) in the near future... (WT-en) Majnoona 12:15, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * OK, that's cool. I see what you're saying.... I think we may have been talking past each other on this one. I'll move the page back immediately! (WT-en) Pjamescowie 12:58, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

 * Great, I'm glad it makes sense (I don't always ;-)). Anyway, just wanna say again that it's a good article, and new angles on what we're doing always help keep us on our toes... this will be a great test cases for the next step in article-relationship functionality. Really, it's only logical that "Literary London" should have a relationship with "London." Sorry the feature isn't there yet for your logic! (WT-en) Majnoona 13:05, 2 Oct 2004 (EDT)

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Talk:Literary travel

VFD Discussion

 * Delete. another stub travel topic going nowhere.  Difficult to see how this can every be more than a list of books - there are so many literary paths to follow, many of which may make good itineraries - but is there something separate to literary tourism that we can explore here?  If this one gets discovered by the walking tour brigade, they will have a field day.  --(WT-en) inas 20:14, 10 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Delete If we had enough literary guides, an index could be useful, but I don't think we have any and trying to make this page itself an itinerary is impossible. It's just too broad. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 00:40, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Keep In a recent discussion, I was warranted that we effectively don't delete any minimally useful travel topics at all, especially if there's an active contributor patrolling new contributors. But we do? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 03:37, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

 * There was discussion and a recent policy change on deletion specific to itineraries here . As far as "active contributor patrolling new contributors", I think it's safe to say we've given the creator of this article plenty of time to develop it. It's been over 2 years and the only change that has been made to the article was a capitalization update, so I don't think anyone is being bullied by deleting this. Also, it's extremely broad. If someone created a Little House on the Prairie itinerary, I could envision it becoming something. There are many sites related to the books and author however, "literary travel" as a single topic includes every book ever written, which cannot possibly make a sensible itinerary. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 04:32, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

 * (WT-en) DenisYurkin - are you arguing there is some policy reason to keep this? I don't see that in the discussion you pointed to.  If you think the article can be usefully expanded, then explain why, and we can keep it.  If it can't be usefully expanded it should go.  --(WT-en) inas 23:56, 11 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Not a policy, but a status-quo described under the link which I read as "we are very conservative in deleting travel topics":
 * There have been very few travel topics (or other articles) deleted - even the ones that are obviously complete and absolute rubbish we debate endlessly in vfd. If there has been a travel topic deleted that someone expressed an interest in curating, I must have missed it.
 * I believe that much more books exist that each makes it an interesting undertaking to travel on its key places mentioned. And listing such things is absolutely valid "alternative way of seeing travel". --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 15:59, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

 * I'm not sure there is much to say about this in terms of subtopics, like "how to prepare for literary travel", but if we keep this, I think we should give it a little more structure than those random examples that we don't even have articles about. I agree that it's a valid type of travel, but what do we have to put there? Looking through our itineraries, Literary London and maybe Narrow Road to the Deep North would be valid entries. We could probably add Momotaro if folktales count as literary travel... What do we think we want from this article? Where do you see it going? (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 18:15, 13 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Even merely listing books which are worth creating itineraries would be a value-adding article. Per se it can give an idea on where to go next--there is some percentage of trips that start as a result of reading a good book with action taking place in the region (i.e. sometimes a book come first, and a region comes from that, not only vice versa). And of course it should link to all existing literary-centric itineraries like those you mentioned. Do we really need general sections like "how to prepare" for the article to become worth keeping? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 16:37, 5 July 2010 (EDT)

 * On the trail of Marco Polo is based on a book. Are there others? I'd imagine Dracula is a tourist draw in Transylvania. (WT-en) Pashley 08:31, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

 * There is currently no consensus to keep this article. Any further comment would be appreciated. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:30, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Weak keep. We seem to have come to a decision to not apply the "outline for a year" criteria to travel topics (although I'm not exactly sure why—maybe we should revisit this). This article has not developed despite having been around for quite some time, and it doesn't seem that anyone has a clear idea of how it could in a productive manner. I'd lean delete, but I cannot see a deletion rationale per current policy. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:34, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

 * I've continued the discussion at Project:Deletion policy. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:03, 4 September 2010 (EDT)

Result: Kept. Template:Outlinetopic has been added indicating that if it isn't edited within one year then it will be deleted. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:11, 11 September 2010 (EDT)

Further comments
Well, I'm glad y'all didn't delete it; I think this is a rich topic, and I've done my best to get this on its way to being a legit topic article. If I get good enough at this wiki thing (I'm still figuring it out), I might spin the Paris stuff off into its own page. Wyote (talk) 04:39, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

What's with all the music?
This is about travelling to discover literature, but there are a lot of musicians and composers listed here too. Nashville, Mozart, the Beatles, surely they don't belong here? Is there anywhere better the information might be listed? (I notice the Music article is looking rather sparse, but it seems to be doing a reasonably good job at pointing travellers in the right direction towards more manageable, specific topics.) If not, it would be as well to start deleting. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I think deletion is not a good option, we might wish to move it to its own article, or redesign the "music" article accordingly. My best guess is that some were placed here when no other place to place them existed and it perpetuated itself accordingly. Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:23, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Personally, I'm not that interested in working on a music article, but don't really want this music stuff to clutter up this page for much longer. I would be happy to volunteer my own sandbox to store the information, if nobody came forward willing to put it somewhere useful. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:43, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Ikan is our resident music expert, I am sure he'll be able to find some workable solution. I am right now a bit at a loss. Hobbitschuster (talk) 18:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Music is a huge subject, and we risk overlapping with articles like European classical music, but for now, as I don't feel inspired to try to encompass such a vast subject in an article I take the lead in designing, I would suggest moving all content about music to an article with a title like Musical travel. The problem with that title, though, is that some readers might think it's directed at touring musicians. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:24, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 * I don't think of music as a form of literature and agree we should move that content to one or several music articles. Maybe we need an article for Popular music? ϒpsilon (talk) 07:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

 * It's surprising that we don't already have one, though we do have Music festival circuit. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:57, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Merge with fiction tourism?
As much of this material can fit within with fiction tourism, we should consider a merger. What do you think? /Yvwv (talk) 16:07, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I absolutely agree. I feel like this is the handsomer page, so maybe we can just start moving things from there to here. Also, it looks like children have been conceived and born between your suggestion and my response, so if no one objects within a reasonable amount of time, maybe this is a situation we can just take into our own hands. Wyote (talk) 09:43, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

 * Support 21:52, 23 July 2018 (UTC) —The preceding comment was added by Pashley (talk • contribs)

 * I disagree. Fiction tourism is much broader, and the fact that this has clearly attracted more edits means it is a viable travel topic. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 23:25, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

 * I see no need to merge these. Not all literature is fiction (for instance, the Trojan War and the Exodus of Moses are at least partially historical) and not all fiction is literature (as it may be published in any medium, including cinema and video). K7L (talk) 23:47, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

 * Oppose per others. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:09, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Lithuania

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Gypsies?
''This is especially true in the poor neighborhoods with large Gypsy populations. ''

This statement makes no sense. Roma people make up less than 0,001% of Lithuanian population - one of the smallest figures among European states. There are no neighborhoods (except one village near Vilnius) - be it rich or poor - with noticeable Roma numbers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people_by_country

--212.117.16.24 10:10, 3 February 2011 (EST)

Define respectable distance
two male visitors to a straight nightclub should sit a respectable distance apart - define! ha! -- (WT-en) Johntinsley 06:27, 8 April 2008 (EDT)

 * Far enough to not appear to be an "item". I would suggest about a metre apart. My Lithuanian friend was quite adamant on this. I am gay but he is not, and he said it still didn't make any difference. 62.249.253.222 18:09, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

External research link removed
Removed this entry:

 * www.vilnius-hotel-guide.com - Vilnius Hotels Guide - Wide range of hotels, pensions and apartments in Vilnius and Lithuania.

May be good for data mining. -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 23:46, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

Tendering large denomination banknotes
I was wondering about the accuracy of this statement: You will draw a lot of attention to yourself if you try to use one of the larger banknotes for a small purchase such as a beer Isn't it a little exaggerated? (WT-en) Jamboo 05:34, 20 March 2008 (EDT)

 * It is exaggerated a lot as it is not uncommon both for foreigners and Lithuanians to pay in 100 or 200 notes.

 * It is accurate in my experience. In a nightclub (in fact the one where men sit at arm's length from each other) I tried paying for a drink with a 200 lt note and the "hostess" showed it to two of the bouncers before proceeding into the back room to get change. This was in late 2007 when the cost of a beer was between 4 and 6 lt, depending on the venue. 62.249.253.222 18:09, 5 August 2008 (EDT)

Because there are many counterfeit banknotes in Lithuania. Especialy 100 lt.

Best/worst education system
Lithuania has one of the best educational systems in the World - that is simply not true. Lithuania's educational system is one of the worst in Europe. --78.60.47.216 18:15, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

 * Hmm, are the two characterizations mutually incompatible? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 22:09, 2 September 2008 (EDT)

Regions
There is a shortage of regional articles for Lithuania. Wikivoyage lists 5 regions (a) Aukštaitija - literally Highlands, northeastern and eastern region, (b) Žemaitija - Samogitia, literally Lowlands, north-western region, (c) Dzūkija or Dainava - south-eastern region,. (d) Sūduva or Suvalkija - southern and south-western region, (e) Lithuania Minor - sea-coast region. While the CIA Factbook and Wikipedia divide Lithuania into 10 counties (or apskritys, singular - apskritis); Alytaus, Kauno, Klaipedos, Marijampoles, Panevezio, Siauliu, Taurages, Telsiu, Utenos, Vilniaus. How do these two devision methods work together? Or do they? -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:17, 29 December 2009 (EST)

 * The regions are a division based on culture and history, not on administrative/political borders; in fact, borders are not even clearly defined. The apskritys, on the other hand, were political subdivisions with clearly defined borders – every city, town or village was part of one apskritis. They have been abolished only recently (in 2009 I think). I'd suggest sticking with the five historical regions. --(WT-en) Stanton 15:55, 15 June 2011 (EDT)

--- "In general, Lithuania is a safe country. But you should take basic safety measures: "

Haha that's funny, yet somewhat true.

U-turn on highways?
The article reads "on highways the u-turn is possible". Is that really true for autostrados/automagistralės (green signs)? I don't remember seeing it there – and I've recently driven down both autostrados (Klaipėda–Kaunas and Vilnius–Panenežys) in their full length. I do remember seeing some on dual-carriageway greitkeliai (blue signs). On the A1 between Vilnius and Kaunas it seems some have been removed recently (OpenStreetMap shows them, but I didn't see any in reality), this is a greitkelis that is being converted to a full autostrada. --(WT-en) Stanton 12:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

 * When I was there in 2008 I travelled on the A1 several times, between Vilnius and Klaipeda, and didn't notice any U-turns taking place. In fact the road was being fitted with crash barriers on the central reservation, which would serve to physically prevent U-turns except at the occasional gaps which are used by the emergency services if there is a pile-up. The road was comparable to British "expressways", which are A-roads that just fall short of motorway standard. I wouldn't be surprised if U-turns were acceptable during Soviet times as I have heard of Ukrainian drivers in Britain being stopped by the Police for doing this on our motorways. During the Soviet era, private car ownership was much less common, and the speed limit was 90 km/h, therefore the risk posed by U-turns would have been far less. Whether or not U-turns are still legal, I strongly recommend that visitors who need to turn round do so at the next junction, and drive defensively in case another vehicle does a U-turn in front of them. 84.93.157.1 17:08, 11 March 2012 (EDT)

 * What definitely still exists (as of last week) are U-turns in connection with junctions (saves the cost of building an overpass), I have seen several of them on the A2. Some are equipped with an interactive speed limit sign which reduces the limit to 110 when a vehicle is in the U-turn line (otherwise the general limit of 130 applies); others have a general speed limit of 110. --Michael-stanton (talk) 16:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

While the main railway connecting Lithuania and Poland is now crossing a piece of Belarus ?
What is this? What does this nonsens means? This connection physically does not exist already more than ten years. If you need a proof try to buy a ticket and see what happens. Or go to the border and see. (WT-en) Local

 * If you see inaccurate or obsolete information, don't complain; just plunge forward and edit it! (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 03:20, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Thanks for the effort. I didn't complain but tried to draw someone's attention. So no need to complain about my complaints :D. Idea to edit is good but i didn't and won't edit anything as in my opinion all texts must be in proper english, i didn't learn english, i don't speak english and i'm not a native english speaker. Those who are fluent in english - those must care about editing "physically". 6 July 2012 (WT-en) Local

Some things about "Eat" and "Drink"
Quatation from "Eat": "Some fast food in Lithuania, such as .... Cheburekai (a Russian snack)...". Čeburekai (Chebureki) is not a Russian snack. Here is an accurate description in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiburekki. Of course, it is a Tatar snack. In case it's not clear how Tatars are related with Lithuania, there is another accurate article in wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipka_Tatars. Somehow it seems to me that our Tatars are rather depreciated in the western sources, although it could be an interesting complement for the potential visitors. I mean, from the tourist viewpoint. Though that may be because of the recent "antimuslim" obsession in the West. Don't know.

Quatation from "Drink": "Also, every region has its own home-made speciality of which "Samane" is most famous/notorious and is best avoided". One should understand that there are many ways to make at home a "home-made vodka", and there are many raw materials suitable for the production of such vodka. So this statement about "famous/notorious" and "best avoided" may be somewhat colourful or interesting, but from the practical point of view it is misleading. "Samanė" (i.e. genuine Samanė) is famous and better than Cognac. "Pilstukas" (or fake Samanė and fake Vodka in general) is notorious. If this website is intended to help the western tourists, i to be honest don't see how such colourful but misleading statement like "Samane is most famous/notorious and is best avoided" can help? Civilized drinking of alkohol is normal for all tourists in all countries. In Lithuania, drinking (or "testing") of Samanė may be one of unforgettable (in a positive sense) experiences. On the other hand, drinking of Pilstukas may be the last time when the tourist is dinking alive, so advice to avoid it is wise. It may be useful to provide some needful details and explanations or may be some examples or something. I don't know. Lithuanians do not need any explanations, it's potential visitors who need it. (WT-en) Local.7 July 2012.

Currency
The euro was introduced about two years ago. We should be removing prices listed in litas, which are no longer useful for travellers. 78.186.244.6 05:13, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Or even better, go to the websites of businesses and update the prices (the prices in litas may have been added ten years ago and aren't necessarily accurate if just converted to euros). ϒpsilon (talk) 05:56, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, converting doesn't make any sense: it most countries, adopting the euro has had significant impact on prices, so the old prices are no longer a good indicator. I have updated prices where possible on Klaipeda. Ground Zero (talk) 07:04, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I've completed this, although I may have missed a price or two. Ground Zero (talk) 16:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Blood alcohol limit for drivers?
Any source for the 0.2 limit? According to https://www.keliueismotaisykles.info/pamokos/kas-gresia-uz-vairavima-isgerus, the limit is 0.4 as of September 2018, and the subsequent update of the KET (effective November 1 of the same year) does not mention any changes regarding alcohol. There is a 0.0 limit for novice drivers as well as drivers of motorcycles (including trikes and quads) or heavy vehicles. I am aware, though, that there have been long discussions about lowering the limit to 0.2 or even 0.0 for all. --Michael-stanton (talk) 17:07, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Little Andaman

Anyone have an update on the situation here? Surely it's recovered at least a little since 2004? – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 08:59, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

 * Back to normal according to this.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:38, 15 May 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Little Miami Bike Trail

This had been brought up for Warsaw's Royal Road, but since I intend this as an itinerary should the title be "Riding on the Little Miami Bike Trail" or what have you? -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 06:11, 18 August 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Little Rock

The "Eat" section needs to be fixed.

Rollback
I rolled back the unexplained deletion of about 10 restaurants. --(WT-en) Evan 14:11, 1 October 2007 (EDT)

North Little Rock merge
It seems that this article covers North Little Rock. If I don't hear a reason not to soon, I'll merge the latter into the former. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:59, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Map base
I'm not yet sure I'll do a map for this, but I did pick up a great free satellite base. So if someone wants to do a Little Rock map, ask me for the base. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:43, 1 September 2008 (EDT)

Collaboration of the month September 2008
This article was a Collaboration of the month for September 2008.The goals were:

 * Needs maps and pictures. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 70.232.65.60 (talk • contribs)
 * Exactly, anyone up for it? Keep smiling,  (WT-en) Edmontonenthusiast 16:14, 31 October 2008 (EDT)

Eat needs sections
Anyone with experience in LR able to help continue the region breakdown of restaurants (downtown, West LR already exist)? If not, I'm thinking of organizing the restaurants by budget or type of food. (Right now, there are region and budget categories which isn't uniform.)(WT-en) Zepppep 22:01, 13 November 2009 (EST)

Learn and Work sections
I'm moving these here, since they don't exactly offer something for the traveller. (WT-en) Texugo 09:32, 20 March 2010 (EDT)

Learn
Visit official websites for addresses and contact information.

Post-secondary education

 * Arkansas Baptist College

 * ITT Technical Institute Little Rock

 * Philander Smith College

 * Pulaski Technical College

 * Shorter College

 * University of Arkansas at Little Rock

Medical school

 * University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences

Law School

 * University of Arkansas at Little Rock, William H. Bowen School of Law

Deaf and blind school

 * Arkansas School for the Deaf and Blind

Work
Several large corporations are based in Little Rock.
 * Acxiom

 * Alltel

 * Dillard's

 * Stephens

 * Windstream

Districtfication
Little Rock is a huge city of almost 200,000 - 300,000 if you include four neighboring independent cities - so I think this article is a worthy candidate for districtfication. (WT-en) Jonathan 784 13:11, 19 February 2011 (EST)

 * We have very different definitions of "huge city", you and I – Little Rock is currently the 119th largest city in the United States (barely edging out Moreno Valley), and we haven't even districted all of the top ten, including 1.4-million-strong San Antonio.

 * That said, the criteria for districtification is simply when the target article becomes too unwieldy as a single page, and I'm not sure Little Rock is there yet. Do is looking fairly full, but Buy and Drink are both virtually content-free, and Eat is in need of some serious overhaul, both to provide contact and address information for many restaurants that have none, and to prune out the generic chain restaurants that aren't of any real interest.  The article would definitely benefit from a solid round of listification first. – (WT-en) D. Guillaime 17:01, 20 February 2011 (EST)

 * Little Rock should never be districtified, it's just too small for it. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 12:25, 24 February 2011 (EST)

Moved here from the traveller's pub
The article for the capital of Arkansas is incredibly long. Since Little Rock is such a huge city (about 200,000 in the city itself; over 300,000 if you include the neighboring independent cities of North Little Rock, Maumelle, Sherwood, and Jacksonville), I think this article is a worthy candidate for districtfication. (WT-en) Jonathan 784 13:06, 19 February 2011 (EST)
 * ? According to this wordcount tool, the Little Rock article is only 7,000 words long (whereas, say, Milan is nearly 20,000 words.) It seems neither "incredibly long" or "a huge city" to me. Do you really think it's so unwieldy as is? If so, why? (WT-en) Rezendi 13:31, 19 February 2011 (EST)
 * Looks quite small and compact to me. Not nearly enough real information to justify didtrictification at this stage. Maybe a little heavy on listings, but that does not qualify it for breaking up. Also many listings are incomplete, but that is another issue. • • • (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 01:11, 23 February 2011 (EST)

 * It may need districtifying later, but based on the distrification within the article, it would end up with a decent "Downtown" article but a lot of small outline articles for the other districts. City size and population don't necessarily matter if there is enough to see/do, but right now, I just don't see any districts aside from the downtown with enough information to hold their own articles. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 05:03, 23 February 2011 (EST)

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Talk:Liverpool

Beatles?

Perhaps someone knowledgable on the subject could add a section specifically devoted to Beatles themed tourism in Liverpool?

Taxi:

Whilst a taxi from Liverpool Airport into Liverpool is a reasonable option, a taxi from MANCHESTER airport is only likely to appeal to those with money to burn, or those landing in the middle of the night - it will cost at least £50 - ie $80.

Better to get the train, which goes direct from the station in the airport to Lime Street station in Liverpool, and spend the money you save in the pub when you get there.

(WT-en) Exile 17:52, 2 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Stay safe:

I may be exhibiting bias here but I believe the statistics show that Liverpool is safer than most cities of its size (1 million population including suburbs). The areas to steer clear of are the areas around Lime Street and the University AFTER MIDNIGHT - these are the areas for prostiution and drugs (unless that's what you're here for of course....)

(WT-en) Exile 17:57, 2 Jun 2005 (EDT)

 * Plunge forward! -- (WT-en) Colin 18:06, 2 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Isle of Man pub chain

"UK mainland" is not correct terminology in comparison to the Isle of Man, as it isn't in the UK itself. Unless the phrase was implying that they had also set up outlets previously on the Isle of Wight, Orkneys or Hebrides.

194.46.246.146 07:55, 8 February 2008 (EST)

Fab Cafe
Fab Cafe has closed down now, I live opposite the old site.

Drink
The Drink section was divided mainly into a subsection about real ale. I thought vicinities subsections would make more sense so I changed it. -- (WT-en) Darrelljon 15:36, 4 October 2009 (EDT)

Spaceport
Spaceport is not in Liverpool. Please don't add it under listings for Liverpool.--Darrelljon (talk) 12:21, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

By plane
Should there be a section of "By plane" in "Get in," considering it has its own airport?  Gerald WL  16:17, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * There should be, and there is - Liverpool. You're probably looking at 'Get around' by accident.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:45, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, goddamnit.  Gerald WL  05:34, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Football
Just wondering how we should cover this for this article and the Manchester article. From what I heard, it is common for Liverpool fans to engage in "Munich chants" when they play Man Utd, and likewise for Man Utd fans to engage in "Hillsborough chants" when they play Liverpool. Obviously, these are deeply offensive, but I also wonder if covering them would be bordering on Captain Obvious. The dog2 (talk) 18:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't watch live football or attend any matches, so can't confirm or deny how common the chants are or state how obvious it is. Both teams have a worldwide fandom, but I imagine the chants come from those with a season ticket, who are much more likely to be from the North West to begin with and so don't directly implicate travellers. If the chants are as common as you say, then fans visiting from other countries will have heard them on the telly. What would you actually write about them? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If this remains in the football ground (or football crowds near the stadium), I don't think it matters to travellers. In both cases the chants are only deeply offensive to those who know the background, and would go over the head of the traveller who just went to a football match as a "neutral observer". AlasdairW (talk) 20:33, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Nothing much more than what's already there. Except perhaps a brief mention how the fans of both clubs use those chants at those games. That said, it certainly is not all fans. Here's an example of a Man Utd fan who unequivocally condemned Hillsborough chants by his fellow Man Utd supporters:, and I'm pretty sure there will also be Liverpool fans somewhere who do likewise with Munich chants.

 * Both clubs have huge overseas supporter bases. It's not like the Old Firm in Scotland, whose rivalry is very much local and doesn't get much international attention. And there are certainly fans of both clubs in Singapore who travel all the way to England just to see their teams play. But that said, I don't think the fans of those teams in Singapore are familiar with those chants. The dog2 (talk) 20:47, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

 * If the Singapore fans can't understand chants that can be clearly heard through the TV, chances are they wouldn't at Anfield either...--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 20:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Livingston (Guatemala)

Cash

Be adviced that there is only one ATM in Livingston and it seems to be the least important one in whole Guatemala. And your card may not even work on that machine. Some years ago when Guatemala changed their money bills this ATM was empty for weeks... Come with a sufficient amount of cash because once there, you'll need cash to get back. Prices have already been adressed.

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Talk:Livingston County (Michigan)

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Disambiguitation link
This guide needs a link to the disambiguitation page. – (WT-en) CurvyEthyl 00:58, 2 October 2010 (EDT)
 * No, it doesn't. No one will get here accidentally, thinking they're trying to get some other Livingston County, because it's got "Michigan" right in the title.  (WT-en) LtPowers 15:11, 2 October 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Lizard Point

I dont know the area, but is Lizard Point "destination" as defined in Project:What is an article?, or is it more a sight that belongs as an entry in another article? (WT-en) Majnoona 15:26, 13 Jan 2006 (EST)

Good question. After all we should remove Cape of Good Hope (since a trip to the cape takes less - provided that you stay in capetown - than a day and there is no need to stay over night) as well, shouldn't we ? Regarding Lizard Point (which might not be as well-known as the cape of good hope is :) we could merge the articles on the lizard peninsula and lizard point. (WT-en) Kaykay

 * It's not so much about "needing" to stay over night, as ability to do so... Are there places to stay at these destinations? I think at least merging peninsula & point (one's just the end of the other right?) would be a good move. (WT-en) Majnoona

 * Alright, I'll merge the two articles, though there's a youth hostel a few minutes away from lizard point.

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Talk:Ljubljana

I kinda miss the "Stay Safe" thing.. I'm planning a trip through eastern europe. Is Ljubljana generally safe? --(WT-en) Gungner 17:08, 18 May 2007 (EDT)

 * It's as safe as a small city in Austria or Germany and much safer than big cities in Hungary, Italy and Britain. Never had any problems.  Living standards are high and poverty is very low plus everyone speaks good English so potential problems are slim.--217.203.146.101 14:38, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

Missing dining cars?
"Be aware that some long-distance trains that you might expect to have a dining car do not have one", added User:(WT-en) SPW. Do you mean that the posted schedule had the dining car icon for the train, but it was missing -- or did you just blithely assume there would be one? (They're not very common anywhere in Europe these days.) (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:03, 20 May 2007 (EDT)

"also known as Laibach"
Really? Maybe to Germans but I have never heard this name used in English (I'm English, live in neighbouring Italy and work in Slovenia). The only name used is the standard Slovene name (though most people have no idea how to pronounce it). In addition you will never see Laibach used on street signs even in neighbouring countries although you may see Lubiana which is the Italian name and often used on signs in Friuli-Venezia Giulia.--217.203.146.101 14:36, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

 * Laibach is often used in Austria, as a name of a city with historic ties to Austria. To my knowledge it's not used in other German-speaking countries, and since it's in German, it isn't used in any other countries either. Don't really have an opinion whether this should be kept or changed though. 80.95.236.172 17:23, 27 December 2009 (EST)

Park Hotel Notes
"Staff may request to keep your passport at check in, so it might be useful to have a copy to hand in. Single €75". This is mentioned in the text about Park Hotel. Why? Every single hotel in the whole of Europe (Schengen countries) is obliged to request a passport (or national ID) on check-in. This is the law in every Schengen country including Slovenia so it doesn't really need mentioning.--217.203.146.101 14:51, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

 * Plunge forward --(WT-en) inas 19:03, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

 * Requesting to check your passport is normal, but asking to keep it is certainly not usual. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:45, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

 * But neither is it exceptional.. --(WT-en) inas 23:54, 11 August 2009 (EDT)

 * I would say it's quite exceptional in Europe, I haven't run into the habit since the Wall came down. (WT-en) Jpatokal 04:10, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

Introduction
The story about Argonauts doesn't tell much of Ljubljana and is virtually unknown there. Moreover, its conclusion is most probably wrong: the patron of Ljubljana, St. George (Sv. Jurij), is usually depicted with a dragon. It is historically much more plausible that the symbol is based on Christian iconography than on Greek mythology. (WT-en) JanezDemsar 05:52, 22 August 2010 (EDT)

 * I wrote something that tells more about (the spirit of) the city. However, I was born in Ljubljana and lived there for most of my forty years, I like the city (and dislike its habitants), so this view may not be shared by a tourist. I'm also not a native speaker and the text quality may be below that from before. (WT-en) JanezDemsar 00:52, 23 August 2010 (EDT)

visitljubljana.com vs. ljubljana.si
Hi. I would like to point out that ljubljana.si is the official city page, while visitljubljana.com is intended purely for tourists and it holds all for tourist relevant information, which ljubljana.si is lacking. Zavod Turizem Ljubljana was established by City of Ljubljana for exactly this task. It also runs public turist info points. Hope that this justifys my divertion to visitljubljana.com. More reading: http://www.visitljubljana.com/en/ljubljana-tourism/ br. ModriDirkac (talk) 22:59, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

 * You speak the truth. I've made the change. --Peter Talk 03:05, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi Modri. You're right. My apologies for my incorrect undo of your edit before, and we'd love to have you edit here more often to fix up our silly mistakes. All the best! :) JamesA  >talk 03:15, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Status
I am not sure this should be rated as guide. Thoughts? Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:53, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Why? It has plenty of information in all sections and listings in general have descriptions and contact information. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:46, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Its formatting is chaotic and its English is not exactly the best I've ever read. Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:57, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's because I often find myself looking at articles from the most random parts of the world, but I wouldn't say Ljubljana is that chaotic compared to e.g. many articles of places in India, the apparently Star-nominated Quy Nhon, or even nearby Venice. This one, for instance, doesn't have kilometer-long lists of bare names or photos crammed together. The English might not be very good, but that alone isn't IMHO enough to drop it down to usable.ϒpsilon (talk) 17:16, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Llandudno

Does anyone know how much the toll is for the Marine Drive? Add it to the sentence where I mentioned about the toll. This page is coming along really well, considering what it looked like at the start of March! Good work! (WT-en) Tsandell 09:23, 22 March 2006 (EST)

I have removed Llandudno Junction from the list of places in Llandudno not to visit at night, as it it not in Llandudno. It is a separate town altogether. There are plenty of other towns much closer (Deganwy, Penrhyn Bay etc.) which are not mentioned, so why mention LLandudno Junction just because it has Llandudno in the name? Ludicrous... 78.150.229.190 17:08, 7 December 2011 (EST)

 * Can't say I'm convinced of this. Our aim is to help the traveller, who may not be aware of the geographical boundaries of these areas which are very close together.  Preserving the reputation of Llandudno over Llandudno Junction is not an aim.  --(WT-en) Inas 17:23, 7 December 2011 (EST)

Ferry
Is it still possible to travel into Llandudno via a ferry from Liverpool? BBC's Julia Brandbury and Sue Perkins in All Roads Lead Home did that, so I was wondering whether that's still going...

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Talk:Llanfairpwllgwyngyll

I've been here before when I got off at the wrong train stop on my way to Caernarfon. Very small town yet charming. The people are very friendly even to foreigners. Most Welsh and other English refer to it as "Llanfairpwll" and pronounce it as "LAN fare pee gee."

This article has a couple of mistakes I think: (1) Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu is only 57 characters not 85. (2) If the place in New Zealand actually does have 85 characters then surely that is the longest place name in an English-speaking country because the official language of New Zealand is English isn't it? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 195.27.15.134 (talk • contribs)

Rename to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll ?
According to Wikipedia ( Llanfairpwllgwyngyll ) it appears that Llanfairpwllgwyngyll is the real name and Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantysiliogogogoch was created for promotional purposes.

Can we change to Llanfairpwllgwyngyll ? I appreciate that the existing name is interesting, but no-one is likely to search on that. Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

 * The article here also says that. Much as I like its current name, I agree and think it should be renamed. --Rubbish computer (talk) 00:35, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

 * As the only real reason for visiting the place is the name I think it should be kept as is. But yes creating a couple of redirect pages with the common abbreviations would be a good idea. --Traveler100 (talk) 05:34, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I see this article has been moved to the suggestion above. Anyone local what to respond as I know this as place as Llanfair PG.--Traveler100 (talk) 15:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Llanfair PG could be a redirect? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

shop
The statement has been added about no gift shop. Is the shop next to the station no longer there or is that not counted as a gift ship? --Traveler100 (talk) 13:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

My edit
Hello, this edit I made may be incorrect as I am not from the area. Feel free to revert my edit if this is a mistake. 82.3.185.12 10:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch

Is it Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyll-llantysiliogogogoch or Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantysiliogogogoch? The place name I have seen in a photograph does not have a hyphen between the llll 's. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:29, 16 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * The hyphen comes from the way the original link is spelled on the Wales page. So... I moved the page to the one without a hyphen. - (WT-en) Huttite 06:40, 16 Mar 2004 (EST)


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Talk:Llangennith

Is this a separate article? It is currently adequately covered by Swansea. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:54, 19 February 2010 (EST)

 * I think Swansea/Gower would be the more appropriate merge target. I'm not sure I really understand how we have Swansea organized, though. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:33, 19 February 2010 (EST)

 * As nobody has opposed the merge selection I have plunged forward. (WT-en) Tarr3n 05:42, 1 November 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Llastres

With all sincerity I feel that the article, written in your style of English, conveys a distinct sense of authenticity. I would suggest leaving the style exactly as it is. - (WT-en) Sohcahtoa 11:21, 2004 May 25 (EDT)

 * I went ahead and changed it to fit in more with the Project:Manual of style, as well as proper English. It's nice to get contributions from locals, especially one as knowledgeable and enthusiastic as the one who started this page, but Wikivoyage guides need lots of attention, and idiosyncratic style tends to get washed out sooner or later.

 * I also removed the photo links and mailto: link. --(WT-en) Evan 12:57, 25 May 2004 (EDT)

 * I just removed
 * Apartament with 2 double rooms. You could see the sea¡¡. zouzou1975@yahoo.es
 * I'm not sure we have a guidline on a listing like this, but there isn't really any way to find out more information (ie price location ect) so I'm not sure if it could be developed into a 'real' listing... (WT-en) Majnoona 22:46, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

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Talk:Llŷn

To me, English as they come but with both Scottish and Welsh grandchildren, it would seem great if there could be a page somewhere on pronunciation of Welsh place names with links to this and a number of other pages.(WT-en) Davidx 11:39, 16 October 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Local culture

 * Each article on most destinations currently have a Respect section and a Understand section. Currently there is discussion on eliminating the Respcet on each article and merging it with the Understand section. There is no separate artice that I know of. You can find that discussion on the Project:Travellers' pub page. I was trying to save you some wasted effort, as I think it will be deleted. ;-) (WT-en) 2old 11:54, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Lockport

Recent changes
Nice work to those IP addresses who improved this article significantly today. I'd like to encourage that user or users to register for an account, so we can give credit where credit is due! (WT-en) LtPowers 11:47, 24 February 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Loei

All TAT listings moved to Talk:Loei/Listings for future reference.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:49, 6 February 2010 (EST)

title: Talk:Loei