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Background
I got the idea for a (WT-en) Pathfinder Expedition while I was working my way through the lists of special pages, in particular:
 * orphaned pages, which are pages that no other page refers to, and
 * dead-end pages, which are pages that don't refer to any other page.

There are often quick gains to be made with these special pages because an article may just need a wikilink or two to bring it into the fold, as it is often already mentioned on another page, but just not linked, or can be easily linked to another page.

I began noticing that the total number of pages only went down when I did work on the orphaned and dead-end pages. So I began wondering why nobody else was giving these pages any attention. After I had spent some time away from here, I realised that nobody else understood why these pages need attention.

Firstly, orphaned and dead-end pages are the growth area of the wiki. They are the stepping stones into the space where the wiki can grow. The problem often is that these pages do not either have the support of other pages yet, or do not provide support to other pages. The way to provide support is to provide wiki links to and from these pages. However, in order to give that support, one needs to find a path to or from these pages. In some cases that path is simply a wiki-link on another page; in other cases there are whole regions and sub-regions missing from the geographical hierachy that need to be created first.

From this sprang the name Pathfinder and with it the realisation that an expedition was probably needed.

 * Note: On the historical side of things, during World War 2, the Pathfinders were aircraft tasked with the mission to find an air-raid target and drop target designator flares and incendaries on it in advance of the heavy bomber squadrons. Often the Pathfinders were equipped with accurate ground radar and other navigation aids that the other aircraft didn't have. However, once that path was found to the target, the bombers in the general area could see the Pathfinders target markers and so zero in and bomb accurately.

I see the analogy as an appropriate one, as once an article is linked into the wiki with sufficient information about where it is, people will want to list on the page as they will know where it is and realise it is the place for them to list.

I have also begun thinking of these pages as being lost children (orphaned pages) that need to be (re)united with their parents and infertile parents (dead-end pages) that need to be encouraged to procreate or adopt a child. I'm not sure that the Social Work Expedition is as intuitive as Pathfinder Expedition. However, the parent-child terminology comes from thinking of each destination page as being a child of it's parent regional page. The sorts of pages I see that the expedition would address include:

 * Lost Children - Pages that fit within but do not currently link into the geographical hierarchy.
 * Lone Children - Pages that only their parent page refers to, they have no friend, although they might claim a few friends (links) themselves.
 * Shy Children - Pages that only refer to their parent page. Other pages might be friends (link) with them, but they don't admit they have any friends.
 * Kidnapped Children - Pages that would be lost children if a page outside the main namespace wasn't referring to them. These are pages that have been kidnapped by (appear as links on) talk pages, user pages, help pages or even Wikivoyage pages and do not have any parents or friends in the main namespace.
 * Gravid Parents and Hyperactive Children - These are pages that are just bursting at the seams with content. This includes huge cities that need districts or regional articles that need destinations. The listings on these pages needs to be moved out into smaller, shorter child articles.

Why not encourage cooperation?
I support this expedition proposal. I've always thought we needed more of this kind of interconnectivity and I think your tree analogy is quite fitting. Just one comment-- I don't understand the purpose of stating that routebox navigation boxes are a non-goal. I think there is a lot more to be gained from encouraging cooperation between these two expeditions. I might even go so far as to suggest that this be posited as the parent expedition of Routebox Navigation expedition, since routeboxes fulfill one aspect of the larger goals stated here. As discussed before, routeboxes are good for increasing connectedness by covering certain kinds of routes, and this expedition would strive to complete the job even more thoroughly. (WT-en) Texugo 08:45, 2 February 2009 (EST)

 * Agreed, this was one of my rationales about taking all the time to dig up obscure cities with near empty guides throughout Scandinavia, along the European routes - so that people could easier find them, and populate them. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 08:49, 2 February 2009 (EST)

 * Perhaps I have expressed it wrongly. I do not see the expedition as creating any new special navigation tools along the lines of Routeboxes or encroaching on the work of other expeditions. I wanted to put a boundary around what the Expedition would and wouldn't do. That and the fact I was writing it rather late at night perhaps means what I had drafted does not quite say what I wanted to - now I read it in the cold light of day. Yes I do want the Pathfinder Expedition to support other expeditions like Routeboxes, especially like Routeboxes. Let me try and rework it. - (WT-en) Huttite 02:37, 3 February 2009 (EST)
 * OK. Reworked. Is that better? - (WT-en) Huttite 04:30, 3 February 2009 (EST)

relation to Get In
> Populating the content of the Get in section of each article that has this section in a way that is natural and logical for the traveller.

Just to clarify, what does this have to do with making nodes of the region hierarchy tree well-interconnected? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 21:17, 14 February 2009 (EST)

overall support
I generally like the idea of having an expedition to improve content around wikivoyage in a single specific aspect, and looking forward to follow with a similar expedition or two when this experiment will prove successful. Best of luck! --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 21:19, 14 February 2009 (EST)

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Welcome
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Hi! Please have a look at out xl policy on what and how to link. I reverted your amazon link because it is a clear violation of our policies. (WT-en) jan 05:24, 24 February 2010 (EST)

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Visa
Nice work cutting down on the Visa article. Huge bodies of text with heaps of useless info doesn't help anyone, so what you did on Visa was great. Keep up the good work! :) (WT-en)  J ames A    >talk 08:17, 17 July 2012 (EDT)

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Welcome and some important things for you to read
Your "article," more or less on your hostel, was deleted. No page on this site can be used for advertising, and only articles about places (cities, towns, etc.) are allowed, none about businesses. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 17:29, 6 January 2012 (EST)

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Welcome
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Aussie Orange
Hi Mary, Got your msg about Orange. Your Aussie Orange puts me to shame, however. Or should I say "gives me inspiration"? :-) Cheers (WT-en) Bob 20:00 16 Sep 2004 (BST)

Multiple links to the same article
Hi, don't really know how Wikivoyage handles "too near" links. I guess it is up to you. I though every time we had to include the link, that is why I did it. Sorry about that. (WT-en) Echiner

Yes, you are correct: Project:Internal links says "try to only link the first instance of an article name"  -- (WT-en) Colin 18:50, 14 Oct 2004 (EDT)

Image with Caption
Saw your "Float image right with wiki markup" modification at Geneva, I modified it for "Image right to frame fix" to bring caption underneath ~ (WT-en) Bijee 10:25, 1 Nov 2004 (EST)

I shall have to learn to preview
....at least when using the discussion pages. Sorry about that. I guess I should go put my comment back the way it was in the first place. -- (WT-en) Mark 05:25, 2 Nov 2004 (EST)

 * Yeah, you're right... I'll leave it then. -- (WT-en) Mark 05:36, 2 Nov 2004 (EST)

Move Cjensen's msg to Ralfi's talk page
DOH!

And by the way, thanks for doing such a great job contributing here! You make a very noticible difference. -- (WT-en) Colin 12:54, 6 Nov 2004 (EST)

Mountains in Central Switzerland
Hi, Mary. I'm not sure if it's really worth bringing up at least until somebody takes the trouble to actually write the articles, but I think some of the mountains in Central Switzerland might actually qualify as destinations.

The reason I think so is that the usual rule-of-thumb is "do you sleep there", for Mnt. Rigi and Pilatus this is definitely true, especially Rigi, which has something like 10 different hotels up and down the mountain.

That said, I'd rather stay in Lucerne, but I like to be in town. I just thought you'd like to know that there might be some room to treat these particular mountains as destinations. Of course I'm not going to put them back myself just out of laziness. ;) -- (WT-en) Mark 06:44, 12 Nov 2004 (EST)

Touristics
Hey, consider me a supporter of your campaign to weed out the term "touristic"! I agree, it's a confused mistranslation, even though it apparently is a legitimate English word, unlike "museal" (apparently meaning "of/in a museum"), which I've seen popping up at Wikipedia... -- (WT-en) Paul Richter 04:18, 16 Nov 2004 (EST)

I'm wondering why the campaign though, and what would be an alternative, is the word touristy better? -- (WT-en) PeterW

Sorry about that
I have no idea why one of my changes to the pub caused such confusion -- it didn't warn me about conflicting changes or anything useful like that. Anyway, I think I repaired the damage, but you might want to verify your parts of the article... -- (WT-en) Colin 18:17, 16 Dec 2004 (EST)

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Disneyworld
Sorry, my screwup on Disneyworld, I indeed meant the other frequent user whose name matches the pattern "H______". I've edited my comments. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:31, 2 Jan 2005 (EST)

Full name
Mary, you may want to update your real name in Special:Preferences. You're being credited as "Mary", rather than "Mary Gardiner". --(WT-en) Evan 17:12, 17 Feb 2005 (EST)

Melbourne
Hi Mary, just kicked off a campaign to divide and devolve the content in the main Melbourne page out into sensible district articles, as per your comments of almost a year ago (!) Thought you might be interested! (WT-en) Paul James Cowie 04:10, 13 Nov 2005 (EST)

Sailboat Hostels
Hypatia, where can I find info about sailboat hostels? Is there a specific country/region where these are popular and do you have any websites? If so, can you leave the websites and info on the discussion page for Hostels?

Thanks,

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User talk:(WT-en) Hyperioon

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Hello back =) --(WT-en) globe-trotter 04:16, 12 September 2011 (EDT)

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Welcome
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Thanks for your contributions to St. Petersburg and Tallinn. Please consider writing an article about Pirita rather than just having a note in the get out section of Tallinn. -- (WT-en) Huttite 04:48, 18 Jan 2005 (EST)

Thanks for the welcome! I don't really have enough about Pirita to justify its own article - I was only there for an afternoon. When I've finished my own write-up, I'll go back and see what I can usefully add to Wikivoyage. (And if you see any words or pictures on my website you think would be helpful to Wikivoyage, please give me a shout. -- (WT-en) Iain 13:39, 13 Feb 2005

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I just did a search on Google and found that WikiTravel has decided to post my email address instead of my username in the credits on a ton of pages. I can get the credits up, but have no idea how to edit them to remove my address.

Any pointers?

Feel free to sweep to my user discussion page!

(WT-en) IainP 19:28, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

 * To start with, please go to your preferences, and on the user profile tab - if I'm not mistaken - your email address will be written in the Real name field, removing your email or giving another name instead, will fix any future contributions, though, I'm not sure how the attribution module connects with the user database, it might also fix all your current contributions, or it might not.

 * If it doesn't, I'm pretty, but not completely sure, us admins will not be able to fix this - if it's a major issue for you, you could then try to contact Project:Internet Brands who hosts the servers, and ask if they are able to do anything. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 19:45, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

 * OK, just gave it a test, and the above fixes your problem, though of course we can't do anything about googles cache. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 19:56, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

 * Superb - thank you! Sorry to take so long getting back to you :) --(WT-en) Mosh 06:05, 23 January 2010 (EST)

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 * Thanks for your edits. Please note that a business (eg a hotel) can only be listed in one article at Wikivoyage, and that should be the article for the city/town in which the business sits (or the nearest if there is not one). Therefore I have left your apartment listing in Torbay but deleted the North Shore listing. Thanks again. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:22, 10 April 2010 (EDT)

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Welcome
Hello Ian Degarnham! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are having trouble with some of the terms being used, check out the jargon page.

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Teplodar
Hi Ian - you were editing the Project:Small city article template, which is a guideline page that describes how to create an article about a small city. I've moved your edits to Teplodar, which (I think) is what you were trying to work on. Feel free to edit anything in Teplodar, and leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions. -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:36, 20 March 2006 (EST)

 * "Can you change the author to give me the credit for original contribution to this article."

 * Anyone who makes any contribution to an article will be credited at the bottom of the page. The format will be:

 * "This page was last modified 21:38, 20 March 2006 by Ian Degarnham. Based on work by Ryan Holliday and Wikivoyage user(s) Xltel"

 * What this means is that Ian Degararnham made the most recent change, Ryan Holliday made the next most recent change, and Xltel made the oldest change. Thus, when someone else changes the article, the attribution will read:

 * "This page was last modified 10:27, 21 March 2006 by John Doe. Based on work by Ian Degarnham, Ryan Holliday and Wikivoyage user(s) Xltel".

 * See Project:Copyleft for more details. -- (WT-en) Ryan 16:54, 20 March 2006 (EST)

"Valid" edits
Regarding your comment:

 * "As there was no previous article on Teplodar do I assume that you have now created this and the edits I made are valid. Or do I need to submit this for consideration?"

Yes, I created the Teplodar article by copying your edits into a new article. And of course your edits are valid -- the policy here is plunge forward, meaning that anyone is encouraged to make whatever contributions they want to. Of course, people are asked to follow the policies and guidelines, but as you saw when you modified the Project:Small city article template, there are always people around to fix up any mistakes. Thanks for your contributions, and hopefully we'll see more!

Oh - you can sign any post you leave on a talk page with four tildes (" ~ "). When you then click save the tildes will be replaced with your name and the date. Like this: -- (WT-en) Ryan 16:12, 20 March 2006 (EST)

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Thanks for your work here and there! That's quite an ecclectic bunch of additions you've made :-). -- (WT-en) Colin 02:47, 8 Sep 2004 (EDT)

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Welcome to Wikivoyage!
Hi Ian.homer! Thanks for your edits on Atlas Mountains, they are much appreciated!

I thought I'd just drop by and welcome you to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences.

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Hi Ianlotinsky! Thanks for your edits on Emerald Isle, they are much appreciated!

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Thanks for your contributions to Wexford! You seem to have a good understanding of how things work, but here's the boilerplate welcome anyhow, which contains some useful links:

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Eratic readings since crash at 5. Juni 2012
Please show at the German Travellers' pub-Site -- Knut 84.58.160.100 04:37, 8 June 2012 (EDT).

Deleting discussions
Regarding, while I understand why you are removing discussions, the existing site policies are strongly aligned towards preventing any appearance of censorship - see Project:Using talk pages (talk page conversations are not deleted) - and most users of this site will have very strong opinions on the matter and see attempts to make exceptions to site policy as an abuse of power. Many of us felt it was inappropriate to use Wikitravel as a platform for discussions of forking when the Wikivoyage fork happened, and many will also feel it's inappropriate to use Wikitravel as a platform for a discussion of a fork now, but in both cases I think attempts to censor those discussions are greater wrongs and would ask that you restore the discussions you have deleted, perhaps adding a note that you feel that this is not the proper venue for such discussion to occur. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:38, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * Thank you, Ryan, that is a very reasonable proposition. However, as I have noted at Peter's Talk page, the discussion itself, in this particular case, serves the same destructive purpose to the community, as would touting a fork. You cannot discuss touting a fork without bringing attention to it, which is the point in the first place. Those who are attempting to discuss this are actively seeking to subvert the very site that allows them the platform upon which to discuss it. Perhaps there is no written policy that says "don't try to use Wikitravel to destroy Wikitravel," but that is only because it is self-evident.

 * In the case of Wikivoyage, absolutely that should not have been discussed here either. Two wrongs do not make a right, and there is no reason a prior grievous error should be used to justify another. I am acting in the best interest of this project, and I stand behind this action. If anyone has a resoned argument to refute that, fine. But we are not going to shoot ourselves in the face simply because explicit policy does not exist to tell us that would be a bad idea.--(WT-en) IBobi 17:49, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

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 * If you want to remove the links to the WM travel site discussion, I could agree to that. But outright censorship of others comments (like mine regarding how this should be discussed elsewhere not here!), is not just a real violation of our project's policies, it is counterproductive. I know well enough from experience that IB is best at alienating the communities whose sites they buy, rather than encouraging their growth. But really, continued edit warring, censorship, and other abuse is not the best way to present your argument that editors should stay here, if another fork emerges. Which is really what you should be doing, and doing fast.

 * As of right now, IB is moving from just being in violation of our advertising policy and consensus policies. You are in Project:How to handle unwanted edits territory. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:59, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * I believe it is within my rights as a member of this community to edit or revert edits as I see fit, is it not? Can you see that the absence of a policy forbidding fork discussion is detrimental to this site? So be it: let's write a policy. Here's my draft:

 * Discussions of forking the content of this Project are inappropriate and detrimental to Wikitravel. Anyone wishing to participate in such discussions is of course welcome to do so offline; but Wikitravel is under no obligation to provide a forum for self-destructive behavior.

 * Something like that? Meantime, since the discussion at hand deals directly with the policy above, I move that it be tabled until such time as the passage or defeat of such policy is decided.--(WT-en) IBobi 18:10, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * (edit conflicted) (WT-en) IBobi - I won't pursue this issue further, but please understand that deleting a good faith discussion, rather than responding and providing counter-arguments, is something that will be extremely poorly received within any wiki community. Again, using the example of Wikivoyage, using Wikitravel as a platform for discussing that fork was in poor taste, but attempts to censor those discussions would have been far worse than simply politely asking the individuals involved to raise their concerns in a more appropriate venue. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:13, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * "I believe it is within my rights as a member of this community to edit or revert edits as I see fit, is it not?". It is not. Reverting edits is not done as people see fit, it is done to preserve the integrity of our policies and rules. You are violating those rules, and Project:Edit war, which I suppose you did not read, directly responds to your current behavior. You are also reinforcing long-standing beliefs that Internet Brands will continue to disrespect the social norms and rules of the communities off which it makes its money.

 * Also, I think I told you privately at one point that I'm not likely to give you too much help, largely because I have found your comments on Shared arrogant, ignorant, and off-putting. In that same discussion I suggested you should heed Ryan's advice, as it is and will be spot-on, and more polite than my own. You have drawn way more attention to this fork through repeated defiance of policy. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:22, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * You assume incorrectly, Peter. I've read all policies concerning this site and simply disagree with you on this. As I've stated, had those comments been in good faith, I'd have left them be. They were not. I'd like it if you could, for the moment, leave off the repetition of stating yet again how much you dislike this site's host and myself, and focus constructively on the policy points I've made.

 * I propose as a mid-term solution: that while we discuss an "anti-fork discussion" policy, we reinstate the existing discussion, minus links to or mentions of an alternate site for such a fork (in this case MWF)? Will that serve the purpose you're after, Ryan & Peter?--(WT-en) IBobi 18:40, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * Updating site policies to prevent discussion of forks would probably be most appropriate if proposed at either Project:How to handle unwanted edits or Project:Using talk pages. As to whether restoring a discussion would "serve the purpose you're after", my purpose was simply to be consistent with the principles this site was founded on - open discussion and collaborative effort based on an agreed upon set of guidelines - and I felt it was important to point out that deletion of a good faith discussion, even one that may not be appropriate, was a very serious breach of wiki protocol. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:53, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * I might be amenable to a proposed policy to avoid discussion of forks in Wikitravel's public spaces. I would not, and I assume others would not, be amenable to your deleting other people's comments until said policy was agreed upon. Per Project:Consensus, which, if you have not read, you clearly have either not understood or simply disregarded in your actions and behavior, mandates that you would need others to agree with you before you take such inappropriate and impermissible action. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:01, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * Also, I've tried to make it clear that I think one could argue that the Project:External links policy would not allow links in the pub to a different travel wiki. You have been deleting my comments, though, so that may have been lost. So yes, I think it would be acceptable to restore all comments as made, minus the links. Scrubbing mentions of the Wikimedia Foundation would not be appropriate, because we do not edit others' words on this site, to avoid people trying to obscure and change other peoples' intended meanings. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:06, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

From your points of view, what would constitute a comment NOT made "in good faith" in this case? What purpose, other than an attempt to subvert Wikitravel by fracturing its community -- decidedly not "in good faith" -- does a fork discussion serve? This is way beyond "not in good taste," which basically is meaningless if it is not grounded in policy. There may be members of this community who also have interests outside of this community; but when those interest clearly and directly conflict with the good of this community, there needs to be a WT way of dealing with that, other than simply looking the other way and calling them "distasteful."--(WT-en) IBobi 19:16, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * I think that discussion is outside the scope of a user talk page discussion and should probably be posted in a place where others can contribute. I'd suggest reposting in Project:How to handle unwanted edits. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:25, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * [edit conflict] I'm happy to explain this via open discussion, but I'm not sure that's what you seem to want...

 * My comments, which you removed, were to the point of avoiding using Wikitravel's public spaces as a platform to advertise other websites, especially those that could be viewed (wrongly) as competition. I suggested more appropriate venues. I can't fathom how you would think that is somehow in bad faith. Unlike your transparently interested removal of others' comments.

 * I can understand your reaction to Jani's post, and I can even understand how, from the perspective of an interested party employed by Internet Brands, it might seem to be not in good faith. But Jani was trying to alert the Wikitravel community—a community which he helped build—that every last admin active on this site has stated that they are going to fork, if the project does get started. While you have dismissed my comments as chicken little saying the "sky is falling," this is a fact. That is something rather of interest to this community, no? If members of this community, which includes even those who are here because they are paid to be here, want to join a discussion to express their disapproval of the proposed Wikimedia project, they should have a chance to do so.

 * In my view, which I have stated many times, is that IB has grossly mismanaged the Wikitravel website and its community. This is what has been destructive to our community, nothing else. Forking seems to me the best possible thing that could happen to our community, and for crowd-sourced travel writing in general. I have already stated so on Shared and in private communication with you. I even think it might be good for the quality of the IB-owned Wikitravel! Maybe it will force IB to wake up and take stewardship of this site and its community seriously. Make a case for why people should stay in words and deeds. Actually fix the bugs, improve site performance, take feature development seriously, govern more openly, respect the wishes and polices of the community. This would be great. I have no way to know whether the WMF proposal has been the spur behind increased tech support from IB, or the lack of progress on the booking tool that none of us want. But I do believe and say, in good faith, that the proposed fork will be good for the Wikitravel community, and that it has already brought semi-retired editors and admins who had lost interest, as the site stagnated, back to writing, editing, patrolling, and so on. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:36, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * It was not your comments I was per se disagreeing with, Peter; it was Jani's post. It does not. Belong. On Wikitravel. Your post in reply to his became moot, once his was removed (just as your reply to me is now moot, since the original post has been restored -- you should consider removing it). If we need a policy to remove fork discussions, and prevent more of the same from occurring in the future, we'll do that. For now, as both you and Ryan have objected, I have removed the links pending our policy draft.

 * The "Wikitravel community" is not the same as "the Wikitravel admins," which you mistake as being equal. In fact, the community at large positively dwarfs the small number of hard-working admins that patrol and curate the site out of the goodness of their hearts and desire to see the project flourish. There are *seven million* human beings every month who use this site. The majority of them have never been here before. THAT is the community; that is the basis of "the traveler comes first." Perhaps admins say they support a fork; maybe that fork will happen; maybe it'll even be supported by the WMF, despite what a terrible precedent that sets; does that mean it should be discussed here? To what end? This is not a forum for discussing how to dismantle this project, nor will it become one. If you wish to discuss a fork and its proposed benefits to the 40 admins who support it, in defiance of the 7 million monthly travelers who come here for the best content, by all means, talk about it. Not here. "We talked about Wikivoyage before" is not a rationale for repeating the same mistake again.

 * As for "fix the bugs, improve site performance, take feature development seriously, govern more openly, respect the wishes and polices of the community," if you want to go back a year, two years, five years, sure. But you and I both know that over the past year plus, everything has changed for the better. And to state that the idea of the WMF supporting a fork has spurred anything is ludicrous; the timing refutes that notion, since the start of the upgrade alone predates the involvement of WMF by at least 3 months. With all due respect, it's disingenuous to keep repeating things that occurred in the past as though they were still happening. You can see on a daily basis how much work is going into this project, very much including this long discussion between us on the fork issue today.--(WT-en) IBobi 20:35, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

 * An additional note - the principle of discouraging, but not censoring, potentially disruptive discussions is a longstanding one. For example, search for "fork" on Project:Internet Brands, and see the various FAQs linked from User:(WT-en) Hansm as well as his contributions elsewhere on the site, all of which go way beyond a brief blurb in the Pub.  Those still editing on Wikitravel today disagreed with Hans, and most of us thought it was highly inappropriate of him to use Wikitravel to advocate for a fork, but so long as his discussions consisted of questioning site policy or summarizing his reasoning, he was given the right to express an opinion. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:56, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Without the 40 admins, you won't have the best content to attract millions of visitors each month, and without attracting a completely new community of admins -- completely impossible at your current level of support -- you won't even be able to keep the content you have clean and organized. I find it completely ridiculous to claim that we 40 or so admin are "in defiance of a 7-million-strong community". That is ludicrous. We are the ones who care most about this place, and if you can't keep us happy, how are you going to keep happy all those supposedly-millions-of casual users who don't even care as much as we do? (Granted, you'll be able to keep the spiders and spambots very happy.) Realistically, those 7 million hits will follow the content and the 40 admins who keep it clean right off into the sunset. Instead of repeating your claim that Wikitravel has a vibrant community without us, you need to wake up and realize that IB needs a massive fundamental change in the way they deal with this site-- needed it years earlier in fact, and much more thorough a change than simply updating MediaWiki for once.(WT-en) texugo 21:10, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Bottom line, I think, is that you still don't trust the only few dozen people who actually do follow every in and out of this site, and you still don't believe us when we tell you that IB's level of support is far, far lower than what is actually needed to keep a healthy, productive, and open wiki running.(WT-en) texugo 21:14, 2 July 2012 (EDT)

Who ever claimed that Wikitravel has a vibrant community without its admins? I claimed the exact opposite: that everyone iss needed here to keep WT awesome. That's the whole, entire point of my objection to this fork discussion, do you not get it? I'm not sure you've been paying attention to the site over the last year, but if you have requests for what you want done, you ought to voice them; they've been getting addressed at breakneck pace for everyone who speaks up :) --(WT-en) IBobi 21:24, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * The fact that you do not know whether I have been here all year making requests speaks volumes.(WT-en) texugo 21:30, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * I'm sorry, Tex, I don't see them: http://shared.wikitravel.org/wiki/Roadmap Where have you made these requests that have gone unanswered?--(WT-en) IBobi 21:36, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * The Roadmap has traditionally been used for feature requests that involve, as the page says, "expansion, development, and improvement" of the site, so I haven't included anything there. Try looking at wts:Category:Open bug reports and you'll find requests like wts:WtTech:Breadcrumbs don't work on pt:, wts:WtTech:Listing templates don't work on es:, wts:WtTech:Mobile site fixes, and others.(WT-en) texugo 21:50, 2 July 2012 (EDT)
 * Texugo, your input, like that of all the other admins, has been invaluable in testing the new 1.17 upgrade. But to point to two bugs you reported a week ago -- both of which have been responded to and are either fixed or in-progress -- and say you've been ignored all year making tech requests? That's just unfair. All I'm asking is that we be given credit for the work we've been doing as the hosts of this site, instead of dwelling on years ago when tech requests were not being addressed in a timely manner. Otherwise, why are we talking? Thanks for your remarks.--(WT-en) IBobi 13:22, 3 July 2012 (EDT)
 * To my knowledge, none of the 3 bugs I just mentioned have been fixed or even acknowledged with a response from IB (Later edit:To be fair, I have just discovered that instructions to resolve one of these issues was indeed given, not on the tech request page I made for it, but on another talk page where someone else brought up a related problem on another language version), but that is beside the point, which is that even the somewhat increased involvement of IB of late has been of nowhere near sufficient volume or promptness, and I have no reason to believe that they won't return to total neglect once they fix the upgrade bugs enough to meet their monetization goal of getting their dreaded booking bar running. I am not disparaging the job you have done, which has certainly been better than your predecessors, but you are still just a liaison between us and the techs and have the unenviable role of breaking bad tidings to the community when IB ham-fistedly goes against the community's wishes. If IB got a couple of people in here who actually enjoyed doing what we do, who contributed, edited, patrolled, joined in policy discussions, participated in community decision-making in a true Wiki spirit, and really dug into the nitty-gritty of it all along with the rest of us, maybe IB might have a better understanding of the way this community works, and the community would undoubtedly have more respect for IB appearing to actually care about anything besides dollar signs.(WT-en) texugo 13:56, 3 July 2012 (EDT)

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 * As an aside, I've given my opinion at Project:How to handle unwanted edits. I was unaware of this whole fork-process until that note in the Pub, but I agree you removing comments there is not right. As an IB employee, I think you should be extra hesitant with such matters. However, I understand the "why" and I wanted to say I applaud your personal efforts to do things right. At least, it always seems that way to me. I imagine it's no fun to balance between the demands of an unhappy wiki community and the business interests of your employer. In the current situation, they just don't seem to overlap much. The fact that even in the heat of potential crisis you at least try to work through the wiki ways of policy making, deserves credit, even though I oppose the proposal. Good night! (WT-en) Justme 18:33, 3 July 2012 (EDT)

You are a spammer
Hi! Your account is effected by the spambot issue. I assume good faith that you are not teaming up with the bots. When do you think you solve this issue? (WT-en) Jc8136 09:34, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

 * The MW 1.17.2 patch was deployed early this morning Pacific time. Please let me know as soon as possible if it has not addressed the spambot issue and the deletion problem.--(WT-en) IBobi talk email 13:15, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

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''This page is for discussing the corresponding article or guide. For questions, comments, or personal stories about this destination or topic, visit Wikivoyage Extra. For more about using talk pages check out Project:Using talk pages.''

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Please do not add your website URL to Project:Internal links or Project:External links. Instead, READ these pages first, as they contain the policies we work to concerning the very links you added. The most important policy is that we list primary sources only. We do not list websites that are simply another travel guide.

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User talk:(WT-en) Idril

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User talk:(WT-en) Ielchan

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User talk:(WT-en) Iep6

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Ieyaylali

Welcome
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Thanks for creating that Siirt article, maybe you can add some details on how to get there, what to see, what and where to eat, and where to stay?

I have removed a sentence from your edit to Kumköy. I personally have a hard time believing that people pick where to stay from what they see while taking a stroll at the beach. And aren't all the hotels in the area essentially look the same anyway — a V-shaped concrete building with lots of windows and balconies, a swimming pool in the front surrounded by palm trees.

İsterseniz Türkçe de mesajlaşabiliriz: :) – (WT-en) Vidimian 05:19, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) IFeelLikeAnActor

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Images
Hi there. Did you miss the giant sign asking you to upload images to Shared and not here? (WT-en) Texugo 12:59, 28 February 2009 (EST)

 * No worries! I already deleted the one here, after seeing that you uploaded it to Shared. Don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions! (WT-en) Texugo 13:16, 28 February 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Iflipti

Hello Iflipti!

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Thank you for your contributions to Seoul, and please write more — we need more information on South Korea! --(WT-en) Jpatokal 10:32, 22 Mar 2005 (EST)

 * I moved this message to your talk page from your (WT-en) user page, so you can use it. -- (WT-en) Huttite 05:50, 23 Mar 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Iformacio

Welcome
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User talk:(WT-en) Igirisunohito

Welcome to Wikivoyage
Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Ignacionr

Hello IGnacionr!

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Thanks for your efforts to tidy up Mumbai. But as far as I can work out from your recent big edit, you have removed all the clubs. Do you plan to put them back? If not, why have you deleted them? Regards. (WT-en) Shep 01:40, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

Thanks Shape for sharing the concern. I have moved these listings to districtify these lists and not really deleted them. Also many of these links were duplicated - for eg. Cafe Mondegar, blueFrog. The aim is to not to delete but as i mentioned, districtify. Trust that answers your question.
 * OK, great. Thanks. I guess I just didn't look close enough. (WT-en) Shep 06:12, 5 September 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Igoldstone

Hello!

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--(WT-en) NJR_ZA 07:20, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Igor 82

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User talk:(WT-en) Igutierrez

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Igycg

Hi Igycg, I was wondering if you had an online gallery where I could see more images of Budva and the Montenegrin littoral by the same photographer. Thanks! Georges Kaspar

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User talk:(WT-en) IHGhotels

Hi. Please have a read at this policy page to see what gets its own article and what does not (such as "Www.staybridgesuites.com/phxglendaleaz"). – (WT-en) Vidimian 15:19, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

 * And I also think you'd benefit from having a look at this, this, and this policy pages if you really want to have a listing up to Wikivoyage standards for your hotel so that it doesn't get removed every time. – (WT-en) Vidimian 15:22, 26 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Iidham

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User talk:(WT-en) Iilmonen

Welcome
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Thanks for your contribution of Cliffs Shaft Mine Museum. The content is great, but it will need to be moved into an article about the town in which the museum is located - see Project:What is an article? for details about what subjects get their own articles (and why). The summary is that we write articles about towns, regions, and countries, but not about individual attractions such as hotels and museums. Please also see Project:Copyleft and be sure to indicate the source of any images uploaded here, as well as a note that the author has explicitly agreed to license the image under the CC-SA license. Thanks again for contributing! -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:52, 14 September 2006 (EDT)

 * I've moved the article to Ishpeming and added a template - if you have any questions please feel free to leave a comment here or at Talk:Ishpeming. -- (WT-en) Ryan 14:57, 14 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Iimevei

Hello Iimevei! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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And thanks for your contribution to Helsinki! (WT-en) Sertmann 22:36, 10 November 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ijujnovic

Stop the edit warring
You can't win, so why don't you give up? This is not a proper venue for advertising your taxi company. Read Project:Don't tout, for example. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 17:22, 19 August 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ike

Hello Ike!

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Thank you for contributing the article about Fucking, Austria. Hoever, did you photograph the Image:Austria.jpg yourself? If not, where did it come from? So this image can be used the Project:Image policy requires that it have a release statement that says who is the photographer or copyright owner, the date (year), and a release statement under a CC-by-SA 1.0 or more generous licence. Otherwise the image gets deleted. -- (WT-en) Huttite 08:13, 18 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ilakast

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Great work on Erlangen—please keep it up! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:14, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ilango nps

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User talk:(WT-en) ILenardq

Don't tout

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User talk:(WT-en) Ilikecats

Sheffield's in Yorkshire last I looked. :)

Now that you've successfully tested your account, please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages constructively. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. Rest assured that any damage you do here will be noticed pretty darn quickly, so... don't bother. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 19:49, 31 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Please see Project:Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense for examples of vandalism that has been kept for posterity. "Wikivoyage is closed due to AIDS" unfortunately does not meet the quality standards that we expect for Wikivoyage graffiti. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:32, 31 July 2006 (EDT)
 * What the hell is the matter with you? -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 08:26, 1 August 2006 (EDT)
 * goatse is kindof old news don't you think? -- (WT-en) Mark 01:44, 11 August 2006 (EDT)

Hi
May I ask why you have decided to become a vandal? An articulate response would be appreciated. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 03:53, 14 August 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ilikescider

Hello, Ilikescider! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Ko Chang
Thanks for your additions to Ko Chang :) --(WT-en) globe-trotter 13:01, 4 September 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Iliya

Hello, Iliya! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thank you for your edits to Bulgaria —that article really needed paring down, and desperately needed regions. Would you mind documenting on the article's talk page where you think the borders of each travel region should fall. That way I could make a regions map for the article. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:13, 2 January 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Ilkirk

Archived stuff here.

Welcome
Hello Ilkirk! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for plunging forward so far. If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful.

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Thanks for your contributions on Chattanooga - it's coming along very quickly! While your contributions have been good, it would be helpful if you could add a license statement to Image:TNAquariumChattanooga.jpg, Image:LookoutMountainTN.jpg, Image:HunterMuseumChattanoogaTN.jpg and Image:WalnutStreetBridgeChattanoogaTN.jpg saying something like "Licensed under the Attribution-ShareAlike 1.0 license" so that it is clear that you are licensing it under a valid license. -- (WT-en) Ryan 19:59, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Licensing completed! (WT-en) Ilkirk 23:08, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Thanks! And sorry for putting the welcome message on your user page instead of your talk page -- lack of sleep apparently caught up with me. -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:20, 28 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Ryan - Thanks for the encouragement! I've somehow spent an extraordianary amount of time on the page for some reason. As becuase of all that time, A) I've got what I think is a great page about my hometown, and B) its over the 32kb mark! Could you give me some pointers on what to do about this? I read that some people have broken the article into districts, but Chattanooga doesn't seem to lend too well to that... I don't think. Thanks! (WT-en) Ilkirk 22:03, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Going over 32k is fine, there's been some talk about upping the limit — it's just a semirandom default value better suited to Wikipedia than Wikivoyage. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:12, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Oh - beautiful! I'm so glad to hear that because I just couldn't come up with any ideas of spliting the dang thing!  Have you looked at the article?  See anything I've done horribly wrong?  I've started switching the addresses and phone numbers to the top of the entries, but I've got to do so sleeping first... Oh yeah, and I stole your infobox bit from your user page - I dig it. (WT-en) Ilkirk 23:07, 27 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Recent Changes
Hi Ilkirk,

Regarding your note about "Somewhat unrelated, but could you tell me how it is that you put the little notes in the Recent Change log?", you simply add a note in the summary box that appears at the bottom of the edit screen (above the "Save Page" and "Show Preview" buttons). That message will then appear on the recent changes page and in the article history. -- (WT-en) Ryan 15:38, 28 Jul 2005 (EDT)

 * Too easy. Thanks! :) (WT-en) Ilkirk 16:17, 28 Jul 2005 (EDT)

Must remember...

 * Glenorchy - Needs sleep (amongst other things)... the camp grounds, the hotel. Must remember drinking at the pub/hotel/restaurant.  "The Crib" may be open.  Check on other tracks leaving from there and collect info for the bus.

 * Tunica - Come on... there is plenty of information to be added here. Should be an easy bit of work.

 * Project:Stubs_needing_attention

 * Project:15 November 2005

 * Project:Articles needing attention

Felcor
Felcor is a company that actually owns a bunch of hotels. And they seem to have paid someone to add the hotels into wikivoyage, which is Officially Okay and Encouraged behavior. Since those are all felcor websites, they really are the primary and correct sites for those hotels. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Colin 17:09, 14 Sep 2005 (EDT)

 * Oh yeah. He also makes a lot of mistakes -- like putting hotels into Atlanta instead of the specific suburb article, non-MoS formatting, and failing to add phone numbers.  Sometimes I go through his contributions and fix them up, but lately he hasn't been logging in (probably due to the login bug we used to have) so it's harder to identify his contributions. -- (WT-en) Colin 17:16, 14 Sep 2005 (EDT)

 * Oh... I gotcha. It just seemed so strange to see the same link (more or less) over and over again.  Thanks for clueing me in on that one... as you can see, I get a little crazy sometimes. :) -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 22:49, 19 Sep 2005 (EDT)

 * It's a good kind of crazy, from what I've seen. -- (WT-en) Colin 23:01, 19 Sep 2005 (EDT)

nps.gov
Hey - I reverted one of your changes to Cuyahoga Valley National Park since nps.gov is public domain. I'm short of sleep and doing ten things at once at work today, so if I missed something and there really is a copyvio feel free to revert my revert, which I may then mistakenly revert again, thus creating a need for a revert of the reverted revert which was mistakenly reverted. Did I mention I'm sleep deprived?

Great work on all of the edits and such lately, by the way. People around here often tend to be silently impressed, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the massive number of format updates and other edits you've been making. -- (WT-en) Ryan 13:49, 26 Oct 2005 (EDT)

 * I feel like a little bit of a nutjob when I glance at the recent changes and see my name appear so many times. I just troll the special pages, looking for the mistakes that I had made when I first got started.  Thanks for the "vocal" acknowledge, though - makes me feel better about bombing the recent change list!

 * All of the info I removed from the Cuyahoga Valley National Park was from the NPS site... I didn't consider the idea that it was public domain. Thanks!

 * Have fun with work! -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 13:57, 26 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Admin
I'd like to nominate you for administrator status. You show a lot of understanding of what we're trying to do here, and I think you'd be a big help. Would you mind if I nominate you? --(WT-en) Evan 20:38, 28 Oct 2005 (EDT)

 * Sounds okay to me... I float around all the time anyway. :) Thanks! -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 22:19, 30 Oct 2005 (EST)

 * No problem. The discussion seems to be over, and I've set your status to admin. Thanks for taking the time to do this! --(WT-en) Evan 12:35, 15 Nov 2005 (EST)

Special characters
Please note that Latin characters are OK to use in Wikivoyage article names: see Project:Article_naming_conventions. (The wording is poor and I'll try to fix it up, but see the Talk page for a long discussion.) (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:59, 31 Oct 2005 (EST)

 * I read the article as well as the discussion and thought it confirmed my method... how confusing. -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 08:41, 1 Nov 2005 (EST)

Status rating
I am pontificating about Project:Status rating on the talk page. You might want to join the discussion and stop me before I do anything stupid, as I feel like I am talking through a hole in my head at present. But then I realise it is still Friday night for half the world and people may be otherwise distracted. I am proposing some changes, but holding off implementing them ... for a little while. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:24, 18 Nov 2005 (EST)

Grosser Feldberg
Why is this article voted for deletion?

It is very possible you have more information to share and the article will not be deleted. -- Ilkirk 11:22, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

No, just curious. I'm new here and was wondering, because I did not find anything wrong with the article (except, that it was a stub). Btw. I find this way of communicating with each other by editing other peoples discussion page a bit strange. Is it really the way you talk to other users here? Or am I getting something completely wrong? Sascha

I did not add this article ;-) I just came across it and was wondering. That's it. Thanks for explaining - (WT-en) SaschaT 07:06, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for fixing up the new Prague district template. I had to go to lunch before I could get it sorted out. (WT-en) Thewayoftheduck 01:04, 20 July 2006 (EDT)

Help
I was wondering if you could add some hotels or something to the outline like food shelter getting around etc. (WT-en) Fallencreatuire 12:16, 24 July 2006 (EDT) thanks

 * (Guess (WT-en) who this is.) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 12:24, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Admin nomination
I've nominated User:(WT-en) Cacahuate to become an admin; please comment on Project:administrator nominations when you have some time. --(WT-en) Evan 01:27, 6 January 2007 (EST)

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