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Template:Warningbox for India
As far as I know, the anti-Citizenship (Amendment) Act protests in India are still active. Can anyone Indian colleagues tell about the current situation in India, so that I can confirm whether to issue Template:Warningbox for India? Many thanks.廣九直通車 (talk) 07:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

 * I'm not in India, but the UK FCO are warning travellers throughout India to avoid protests and large gatherings, and to keep abreast of the local news. The warning is restrained and relatively low down the list compared to the strongly worded terror alerts and advice to avoid all travel to Kashmir. I would say that a brief and measured warning box is appropriate, given this advice and the loss of life which some protests have seen.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Indain Railways services suspended until 31st march...
https://www.businesstoday.in/current/economy-politics/breaking-all-railway-operations-to-be-suspended-till-march-25-due-to-coronavirus/story/398884.html ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:52, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Until April 15
From a cautionbox in the article:

India is suspending most visas (and visa-free travel for OCI card holders) until 15 April 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic.

It's 26 June 2020. What's the current situation? We can't keep this wording. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Phone Booths?
I believe that the section on phone booths and PCOs is now entirely out of date. I haven't seen a phone booth in ages. Anyone objects to a rewrite? — Ravikiran (talk) 10:56, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Go right ahead. You are the local expert, so please update or delete as you see fit. Ground Zero (talk) 13:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Vegetarians
One thing I want to point out is that it is not true that most Indians are vegetarian. It is true that most Indians in the West are vegetarians, and that is because only the more affluent Indians can afford to immigrate to the West, and so you have an overrepresentation of Brahmins among Indian communities in the West, and that is what has led to the common misconception in the West that India is a majority-vegetarian country. If you go to Singapore, where most of the Indians are descended from low caste indentured labourers brought over by the British during the colonial period, so you'll find that vegetarians are a minority even among the Hindus. And likewise, in India, only about 30% of the population is vegetarian, which is higher than in most countries, but still very much a minority. The dog2 (talk) 07:50, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Getting around by train
There is a lot of detail in this lengthy section that overlaps with Rail travel in India. In particular, the summaries of all of the luxury train services might not be of interest to a wide readership and would be better covered in the Rail travel article than in the national article. Comments? Ground Zero (talk) 20:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Natural disasters
Although the "Stay safe" section describes a lot of problems to be faced by foreign travellers, the section has missed a problem persistent in India, that is the natural disasters, like droughts, floods, cyclones, earthquakes etc. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 12:20, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Please add them, insofar as they effect the average traveller, and the methods, if any, the traveller can employ to avoid/minimize the risk. Vidimian (talk) 12:31, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm already writing natural disasters in West Bengal and I'll be adding a summary of natural disasters in India soon. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 12:43, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Rail fares
The rail fare table in India was added in 2015. Are these still valid, more have fares changed in the last 7 years? Ground Zero (talk) 12:41, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Indian railways publishes a guide each year which also includes a fare chart. You can find the guide on the official Indian railways page or with this link https://indianrailways.gov.in/railwayboard/view_section.jsp?lang=0&id=0,1,304,366,537,2789

Click on the fares section. Cheers! Leoneix (talk) 14:26, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Safety information boxes in Indian cities
I have seen some Indian cities (Cooch Behar, Siliguri, Tezpur), where there is (or was) an information box summarising the safety tips described at India. I've removed such boxes from Cooch Behar and Siliguri, since I thought such boxes are unnecessary and can be applicable at any place in the country and overseas travellers will likely look into the India article before looking for its city article. However, I'm now wondering whether such boxes are really unnecessary? I've added a sample of such information box here. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 08:21, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Yes, if the warnings apply to all of India or even just much of the country, they should just be in the main India article and not duplicated in individual city articles. Stay safe sections in city articles are for local safety issues. --Ypsilon (talk) 11:06, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

 * I mostly agree. There may be cases where some issue is serious and unobvious enough to be repeated – I have included some advice on severe weather and the like in many Do and Stay safe sections of articles on Finland, although this is mostly redundant with the advice in Finland and Finnish Lapland – but the advice in the example box is mostly common sense. Things like the swastika can be looked up in the country article by those baffled by seeing it. –LPfi (talk) 13:55, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

 * I don't know the current situation, but I've read and heard reporting that's suggested in recent years that Delhi is a particularly dangerous city for women even compared to other places in India, so it may warrant a special warningbox for that, or not. Only people really familiar with the situation would know. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:17, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Such mostly local situations should belong to the respective city articles and I think the city articles should not have safety tips that are adhered throughout the country, not even a summary. Overseas travellers will always look for the country article before browsing further to its cities. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 18:56, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * The women safety issue for Delhi is handled in the second paragraph of Delhi ("Delhi is among the three unsafest cities for women in India [...]"). It can be developed, but it isn't a redundant summary and thus not problematic in the sense of this discussion. –LPfi (talk) 22:11, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * As per my above arguments, I'm going to remove the safety advice in city articles that are common throughout India. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 06:23, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

India got six big Tier 1 cities
India as of now only got six big tier 1 cities namely Bangalore Mummbai Hyderabad Delhi Chennai and Kolkatta why to put other smaller cities amongst them. these big cities are the biggest in economy and GDP. There is no point in putting smallest towns amongst them.
 * Because some of the small cities will be of interest to travellers, more so than a number of the first tier cities, which generally are accorded this accreditation based on the city's economic power and level of development, not historical or cultural interest. User:SingyeDzong

How can someone decide which are those cities. How can someone pin pont those. In that case every city in India got in interest for travelers. This kind of things are subjective. different travelers got different tastes and they will find different cities and the list will be big. We cannot put all here. Who is the one that select this. Usually people from those cities says they are the important ones and rest are not which cannot be accepted. We can only give Tier 1 cities in India as major one. Smaller cities can be given under respective state sub section. Presently there are six Tier 1 cities in India and they can be given which is objective matter. rest all cities shoudl be given in sub sections of respective states or union territories.
 * Yes, but this is a travel guide, not a Forbes catalogue of the most wealthy and powerful cities. Destinations are decided by consensus. There will be disagreements, but slowly choices will be made as they are on all the countries covered by Wikivoyage. In fact, you already started this process by adding Varanasi, which is not a tier one city. You did that because it is of major interest to travellers, which is exactly my point. User:SingyeDzong
 * For a tourist, Agra & Varanasi are more important than most of those. When I was there, decades ago, I visited both of those plus three of the places on your list (Delhi, Calcutta & Madras). The places I remember most are Delhi, Agra, Goa, Mahabalipuram & Bodhgaya. If I ever go back (I'd like to), Dharamsala & Leh would top my list of places I want to go. Pashley (talk) 10:18, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * See also Talk:India/Archive_2013-2019 Pashley (talk) 10:20, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

As of now leave this like this. If this is the case the list will become very big according to personal opinions. Too mnay places will be added.
 * No, nine cities is the limit decided by consensus. The capital on top and eight others are listed below. User:SingyeDzong
 * The current list has seven & I'd say we should bring it up to nine.
 * I'd add Agra & Jaipur. What do others think? Pashley (talk) 10:34, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Previously the other two cities were Jaipur and Kochi, but as home to the world famous Taj Mahal, I think that Agra is a good alternative to the latter entry (though it is listed as 'Taj Mahal' under 'other destinations'). User:SingyeDzong
 * I would agree. Three other points: (1) "Cities" lists in articles where they were decided upon by a discussion that reached consensus (which is most of them but almost certainly every one at the country level) should never be changed unilaterally. (2) It's crazy to list fewer than 9 cities for a vast, extremely populous country. (3) And could everyone please sign all their comments in this thread by typing 4 tildes (~) in a row at the end? It's hard to follow who is saying what otherwise. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:14, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Goa or Agra is amongst the most visited places in India. Goa and Agra, Jaipur, Amritsar (because of golden Temple), Jaisalmer, Madurai, Aurangabad, Bodhgaya, Mysore, Hampi. These are the most visited places and very appealing for tourists because of their historical significance. Any one of these two can be added. https://www.planetware.com/tourist-attractions/india-ind.htm 1) Goa 2) Jaipur 3) Mysore 4) Madurai —The preceding comment was added by 157.46.218.178 (talk • contribs)

 * Thanks. Please sign as described above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:20, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I once voiced the opinion that Shimla and Chandigarh be on the list, for architecture and "touristicness", but nowadays I understand better the balanced choice of cities achieved by consensus here, and don't want it to change, for the record.  Ibaman (talk) 04:28, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

 * Shimla was once on the list, but a previous discussion (Talk:India/Archive 2013-2019) reached a consensus to replace it with Hyderabad, which I think was a correct decision.
 * Several other sections of that archive page have related discussions, at least "remove Kochi", "add Amhedabad" and Talk:India/Archive_2013-2019. Pashley (talk) 06:19, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Goa Mysore Madurai Jaipur, any two can be added
 * I would agree with any of those (except Ahmadabad). User:SingyeDzong
 * as a Lusopohone, I'd like to see Goa added here. However, as mentioned, I understand and respect and enjoy the current list of cities, and my vote is against changing it. Ibaman (talk) 11:21, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I also feel the earlier list (before it was arbitrarily changed) was fine, though maybe Goa could replace Kochi, as I believe that the former is a more popular haunt for travelers than the latter. User:SingyeDzong

Jaipur and Goa are much more visited and got much more significance. Also Madurai and Mysore are also good. We can add Jaipur and Goa
 * Since 2014, India has eight Tier 1 cities. It also includes Ahmedabad and Pune. But being a Tier 1 city is not very relevant in a travel guide or from a tourism POV. Basing it on the older Tier 1 list creates an undue southern bias (3 out of 6 cities) when it comprises about 20% of India's population and area. Even the older version (4 out of 9) was too skewed towards the south. Looking at wikipedia:List of cities by international visitors which uses 2018 Euromonitor data, the most visited Indian cities were (in descending order) Delhi, Mumbai, Agra, Chennai, Jaipur, Kolkata, Bangalore, Pune. That is a more reasonable starting point than the proposed list by Anon 157 though it's a little western region heavy. Swapping out Pune with Ahmedabad would provide more balance between states and Pune is very close to Mumbai. Agra is redundant because it's in other destinations. To that, I would add Varanasi which has more domestic travel significance but on the flip side replace one of the many temple sites in Other Destinations to either Shimla or Darjeeling, or alternatively Goa or Kaziranga. No cities or destinations from Rajasthan are the list currently stands is ridiculous. Gizza ( roam ) 23:04, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

I am also from south and I think 3 cities in south namely Bangalore, Hyderabad and Chennai is more than enough. Its better we add cities from north east or any other place. Maybe Goa because of high foreign tourist visitors or Jaipur or some good places from other areas. —The preceding comment was added by 137.97.73.88 (talk • contribs)
 * Could you please sign your posts on talk pages as described above? Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:02, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Goa and Jaipur can be added
 * Everybody's taking about adding cities but no one comes up with suggestions of which one of the nine original cities should be de-listed. Any suggestions? Ibaman (talk) 15:06, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Goa instead of Kochi. Otherwise the list is fine. User:SingyeDzong
 * Goa is a state, not a city. The substitution must be a city. I don't think Panaji or Old Goa belong in the List of NINE Cities. Ibaman (talk) 15:48, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Good point. Panaji is not well known, and so maybe Kochi or Mysore, or if a northern city is preferred (as implied in the thread), then Shimla or Darjeeling. User:SingyeDzong
 * Kochi is there already, this would mantain the current consensus, which I totally support. Ibaman (talk) 15:56, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. User:SingyeDzong
 * Very well, then, it's settled by now. Mantaining existing consensus. Ibaman (talk) 16:03, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

No kochi should be removed. Add GOA or Ahmedabad or Gangtok or Shillong or Manali or Ninital or Indore. There are already 3 main south cities namely Bangalore Chennai and Hyderabad(biggest cities and most visited places). Other parts of India also needs representation. Kochi is not that much visited place. North east should be represented. Places in central India should be represented. Southern India only got 20% of population and 3 cities are more than enough. Rest of India should be represented. Making it GOA as of now or please make it Shillong or Gangtok or Manali or any other place from other parts of India. GOA is like a state city and is very small. Panaji can be added if needed and anyone can understand it as the capital of GOA. If you remove GOA please give representation to a city from north east like Shillong or Gangtok or a city from central India like Indore or northern India like Manali or Nainital or Chandigarh or Amritsar or Shimla or an Eastern city like Darjeeling. Too much representation for one place in India that only got 20 % of population is not good.
 * North-east - then Darjeeling. Gangtok is modern and of no particular interest. Shillong is ok, but not worth a special visit. For the north, Shimla is probably the best choice. Ahmadabad is really boring unless you are a business man. Goa is fine with me. Pune is also a cool place. User:SingyeDzong

Goa is fine with me also. But if not GOA then Darjeeling is good. Shimla is also good.

Keeping kochi means too much representation to a particular region that only got 20% of population. Remove kochi and add SHimla or Darjeeling. Other areas in India needs representation. Please choose between Shimla or Darjeeling.
 * I would rather keep Kochi but would not vote against replacing it with Shimla or Darjeeling. However, it's best to hear the input from other users too. Ibaman (talk) 11:13, 17 January 2023 (UT

1)Shimla, 2) Darjeeling. Please select amongst these two as selected from different cities by users here to replace kochi.
 * As of this moment, there is only one vote for replacing Kochi; and I are for keeping it in the list, and SingyeDzong is indifferent. Let's wait for opinions of other users. Ibaman (talk) 15:11, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

I think 2 votes User:SingyeDzong and myself. User:SingyeDzong mentioned to replace Kochi and go for Shimla or Darjeeling. Let also decide. I dont support too much representation to a region where small portion of population lives. Other regions require more coverage. Kochi should be replaced with Shimla or Drajeeling.
 * please get to know what has already been discussed over this subject. It's a really long discussion, really. The "remove Kochi" vibe is nothing new in this talk page. Ibaman (talk) 19:03, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

These is clear reason for that. kochi is not that much visited and also got less tourist significance compared to many places in India. I dont know who added kochi. Also too much priority to southern part of India is the result. There are already three cities from South. Other places should also be equally represented. Kochi is unnecessary to be added along the main nine list.
 * I tend to agree. While Kerala has a rich culture and many tourist attractions, Kochi is nothing special and there are many more deserving places that should be on the list of primary cities. Shimla is lovely, but as the north east lacks representation, maybe Darjeeling should be considered. Anyway, that's just my personal opinion. User:SingyeDzong

You are right User:SingyeDzong we can go for Darjeeling. That area also need representation

 * I support replacing Kochi with Darjeeling (or with Shimla as a second option). The northeast is unrepresented in both Cities and Other Desinations. There is also no Himalayan representation in Cities or Other Destinations. The most appropriate article from Kerala would be Kerala Backwaters, which would fit in Other Destinations, rather than Kochi, which is an average city. Kerala is known for its natural beauty rather than urban areas. Goa itself or a destination in Goa would better in Other Destinations as well for similar reasons. Amritsar is not necessary because it is already represented via the Golden Temple in Other Destinations. Gizza ( roam ) 23:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. So that we have 3 votes now for replacing kochi. Me, User:SingyeDzong and User_talk:DaGizza, lets replace with Darjeeling as that area needs representation —The preceding comment was added by Kelsere1 (talk • contribs)

 * Once again: could everyone please sign their comments on talk pages? Why are some people persistently not doing so? Four tildes (~) in a row. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:56, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

 * I have a question. Is Darjeeling considered a city, or is it just a rural region? Rural regions should not be going into the city list. And Darjeeling is not in the North East, and would be a second city in West Bengal, since we already have Kolkata in the city list. If you want something truly North Eastern, perhaps a city in Gangtok or Imphal will be better. The dog2 (talk) 19:15, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I STILL think the list is good as it is, there's no need to change. Ibaman (talk) 19:25, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Darjeeling is definitely a city. Its population was 118,805 as of the last census in 2011. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:52, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think most of the cities in India are obvious. Let's have the list here to look at:

 * — the capital of India and the heart of Northern India
 * (Bengaluru) — the beautiful garden city, once the sleepy home of pensioners, now transformed into an IT hub for high-technology companies and sprouting pubs.
 * (Madras) — the main port in Southern India, cultural centre, automobile capital of India
 * — known for pearl and diamond trading, now with major manufacturing and financial institutions
 * — the Pink City, a major exhibit of the Hindu Rajput culture of medieval Northern India
 * (Cochin) — the Queen of the Arabian Sea, historically a centre of international trade, now the gateway to the sandy beaches and backwaters
 * (Calcutta) — the cultural capital of India, known as the City of Joy, and home to numerous colonial buildings
 * (Bombay) — the largest city and the financial capital of India, the city that never sleeps, home of "Bollywood", the Hindi film industry
 * (Benares) — considered the most sacred Hindu city, on the banks of the Ganges, one of the oldest continually inhabited cities in the world

I would say that every city on the list is obvious except for the arguments about Kochi and maybe Varanasi. But isn't Varanasi the biggest holy city on the Ganges? A visit there was certainly memorable for me in 1977, for what it's worth. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

yes, I agree Varanasi deserves its spot. And the Darjeeling article starts describing it as a "Victorian town". Many years ago I pushed for Shimla to be included, as it's a capital, with historic and architectural and touristic importance. Ibaman (talk) 23:12, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

 * I would pick Shimla over Darjeeling, simply because Darjeeling and Kolkata are both in West Bengal, and I think we should try to avoid having two cities from the same state in the list. Maybe we can also consider Srinagar. I've never been there but I heard it's really beautiful. The dog2 (talk) 23:18, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

 * I visited Srinagar in 1977. It was indeed beautiful. However, isn't its safety a bit questionable? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:40, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

 * To my knowledge, it is not an active war zone now. I remember back when I was still living in Singapore, the travel agencies were advertising tours to Kashmir as a land of great beauty. The dog2 (talk) 02:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

 * I was thinking more of terrorism by separatists and Islamists and brutality by Indian troops, not active war between India and Pakistan. That said, if it's reasonably safe to travel to Srinagar, it would be an interesting city to include. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:29, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Darjeeling is a city but a small city. But kochi is also a small city. The reason behind the need of removal of kochi is that there will be 4 cities from south which only represent 20% of the Indian population. Also kochi is not that important even in south. Its just a small city with less visitors and not that much tourist significance. I dont know who added kochi to the list. Kochi should be removed and we can go for Shimla, Darjeling or Indore or any other non south Indian city as there is already 3 cities (main cities from south) in the list. Other places should also be considered. There is no reason to put kochi here. Some person without knowledge of India added kochi here and there is no reason to continue that. If its not Darjeeling we can go for Shimla or Indore. —The preceding comment was added by Kelsere1 (talk • contribs) 07:48, January 21, 2023 (UTC)
 * Please keep the discussion civil. We work by consensus here. And I'm open to swapping Kochi for a different city but there's no need to insult the person who came up with this city list. You can disagree without disrespecting. But that said, I don't think we should have two cities from the same state given how big India is, so I wouldn't go with Darjeeling, since Kolkata is also in West Bengal. Shimla is fine for me, and as I suggested, we could consider Srinagar too. The dog2 (talk) 08:17, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

Shimla is ok for me. Srinagar is also ok. I think we will get more votes for Shimla here as many others suggested it here before to be added.

 * Personally, I would prefer a classic Indian city, rather than another one that merely represents colonial architecture, but I'm fine with Shimla. It's a pleasant place, and HP is not otherwise represented. Leh would be cool, but maybe too small for the city category. User:SingyeDzong

 * Or would anyone want a city in the northeast? Like maybe Imphal? The dog2 (talk) 16:31, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

 * A city from north east will be good as that area needs representation. Imphal or Guwahati or anyone is ok. We have to select one. Kelsere1 (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2023 (UTC)

 * While location should be considered in choosing the cities on the main page, they should also have some interest to travellers. Sadly, Guwahati and Imphal are lacking in this respect. Shillong would be a better choice, but still not that interesting. User:SingyeDzong

 * as far as the articles themselves are concerned, Indore is neary pictureless and needs much copyedit and formatting; Srinagar is in better shape, but its Eat section is vague with no real listings, and the Stay Safe section is concerning and needs update as it reads 2018. The Shimla article has Guide status, and that's why it gets my vote. Ibaman (talk) 13:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

 * I'm also fine with Shimla. It has numerous attractions and is pleasant place to hang out. User:SingyeDzong

 * Both Shimla and Srinagar work for me. The dog2 (talk) 15:50, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Ok.
 * ✅ we have consensus and Shimla is on the list now. Ibaman (talk) 16:15, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

eVisa Payment issues
I'm aware of several US based individuals who have had difficulty processing payments for Indian eVisas. In fact, they only way they were able to get the payment to go through was to use PayPal (rather than one of the bank links). Thoughts on adding a helpful hint box to the "Getting In" section to recommend Paypal processing? —The preceding comment was added by 72.205.32.178 (talk • contribs) 03:11, January 23, 2023 (UTC)

 * I don't like having to recommend Paypal, there are many problems with them. Is this a concurring problem or was there some special circumstances lately? Have people been in contact with the authorities? If there is some glitch in the web site implementation, then this should be fixed without much delay. –LPfi (talk) 07:37, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Name of Odisha on static map
The static map labels the state of Odisha as Orissa – the state has been known as Odisha for quite some time now. Can anyone fix this on the PNG map? (the SVG map already uses both names). -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 12:24, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Cow protection?
India: Vigilante ‘Cow Protection’ Groups Attack Minorities

Does this affect travellers? Pashley (talk) 16:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Name change to Bharat
There has been a bit of speculation after Modi's G20 letter about India changing its name to Bharat – to prevent this from becoming a contentious issue on Wikivoyage, I've added "potentially officially Bharat (w. no diacritics) from 18 September" in the lede. I think that's all that needs to be done as of now; if it does become more popular in the upcoming years or if it's confirmed to be official, it can always be changed. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 21:31, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

 * Policy at Naming_conventions is:
 * "articles should use the city, region or country name most commonly used in English-speaking countries"
 * That is certainly India.
 * Mentioning Bharat in the introduction is debatable, but acceptable. Anything more than that would be foolish, even if it becomes official, unless & until general English usage changes. Pashley (talk) 21:43, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

 * No chance of the name Bharat becoming the common name for the country abroad any time soon, although another name most English-speakers can't pronounce if their life depended on it, Myanmar, did take hold, so we'll have to wait and see, but I'm skeptical. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:41, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * There is speculation that the government might introduce a resolution to change the country's name during a special session of Parliament, scheduled from September 18-22.
 * Or it might not. And Parliament may vote against the resolution. And the name change might not take effect immediately (we haven't seen what the resolution might say, if there is one).
 * Why would would put something so hopelessly speculative in the first sentence of the article? How is this important to travellers reading the article now?
 * Sometimes we forget that Wikivoyage is a travel guide, not a news site, and not an encyclopedia. Ground Zero (talk) 00:40, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * That's why I added "potentially officially Bharat from 18 September" in the lede, and only that – I don't think anything else needs to be done (though I'm indifferent to that or a short sentence in "Understand"). The potentially suggests that it may or may not happen, but it prevents editors from unilaterally changing the name throughout the article from India to Bharat (we've had enough to deal with Prayagraj already). I'm not saying we should change the article (response to Pashley's comment), and when I meant "it can always be changed" (written in a morning rush), I meant we could always amend what I wrote.
 * Also, sorry about writing it in the first sentence. I wrote it in a morning rush and didn't think twice about where to include it. Thanks for moving it, GZ. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 07:51, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I'd have just deleted it instead of moving it. Pashley (talk) 15:45, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Chinese visitors to India
@The dog2 Do you have a source for only diplomatic passport holders from China being allowed entry? I understand all e-visas and tourist visas are suspended, but regular visas still appear to be possible: https://india.blscn.cn/ Jpatokal (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Based on this thread, even student and business visas are in practice not issued to Chinese citizens anymore. I presume diplomatic visits are still allowed as China sent a delegation to attend last year's G20 summit, and there is still a Chinese ambassador in India. The dog2 (talk) 23:35, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * So based on lots of reports that Chinese citizens are having difficulty getting any kind of visa for India right now, I think we should also let people know about that. The dog2 (talk) 20:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Any official sources or statements from the Chinese government? SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 00:01, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * There is a report here that China has asked for India to resume issuing visas to Chinese citizens to allow for more people-to-people exchanges. The dog2 (talk) 03:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Here's another Reuters article where they have said that India has blocked virtually all Chinese citizens from visiting: . The dog2 (talk) 18:24, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:India/Archive 2003-2005

Aryan Invasion Theory
>> The Indus Valley civilization, one of the oldest in the world, goes back at least 5,000 years. Aryan tribes from the northwest invaded about 1500 B.C.; their merger with the earlier inhabitants created the classical Indian culture. <<

The Aryan invasion theory has had serious rethink in the past couple of decades.

 * Well, apparently nobody told the CIA about it. Do you have some alternate theory that should go in there? Some other text? You need to just plunge forward and edit the page yourself, amigo! -- (WT-en) Evan 13:02, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)

Bources
"The bources have crossed their 3 year highs". What are "bources"? Bourses? (Purses, or stock markets?) Sources? -(WT-en) phma 17:15, 9 Dec 2003 (PST)

Indian Women
"Women in India feign from contact with western men." Huh? How does someone pretend from contact? -(WT-en) phma 22:56, 12 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * You are so naive, man. Read between the lines. B-) Just kidding. I think this is supposed to say "refrain from contact" -- I'll change the article, although I wonder how true it is, and what it's supposed to mean. "Stay away from our women?" "Don't expect to get any action while travelling in India?" --(WT-en) Evan 23:46, 13 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * I realized after changing the article that it might have actually been intended to say that "Women in India faint from contact with western men," but I doubt that Indian women are particularly frail. --(WT-en) Evan 23:49, 13 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * I thought it could mean "refrain from contact" or "feign contact", hadn't thought of "faint from contact", and couldn't tell which it was supposed to mean. -(WT-en) phma 07:08, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Just as with the other little pieces of text I added it was meant as a starter. Unfortunately it seems to started much more on the discussion page than on the article page itself... (WT-en) Guaka 08:50, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

Srijith, why did you remove the remark about giving food to beggars, and the remark about the fact that the crushing of bottles is adviced by some, but that the bottles are also used for other purposes, such as storing petrol? Could you leave a note on the Talk page when removing information next time? (WT-en) Guaka

 * Guaka, there really isn't a need to note every change on the talk page, that's what the version history is for. It sounds like you had some pretty detailed information on the page that other people didn't think was travel-oriented enough. But now that it's been brought up, we can discuss the changes here and come up with a compromise. (WT-en) Majnoona 12:02, 19 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * But the removal isn't commented in the version history either. I don't think it the article has reached a state yet to start removing too detailed information. The bottles: I also have read and heard that one should crush bottles. But I have also heard and seen that people use them for lots of purposes. The beggars: I never give money to beggars. But I do give them food. I think giving food should be mentioned in a travel article about India. (WT-en) Guaka 14:53, 23 Jan 2004 (EST)

Re: Rajkot -- The city in the gujarat state where Mahatma Gandhi pursued early education, also famous for sweets and *dandiya raas/*garba.

AFAICT, dandiya raas and garba raas are dances or dance songs and do not need to be wikified (see this site). (WT-en) DhDh 09:48, 22 Jan 2004 (EST)

--- Can I just say how much I like how this country is set up? The way the states/districts/cities are dealt with is exactly (IMHO) what we want-- pick out a few to highlight, give an overview of the whole country, and, if absolutly needed, link to a big ol' list of states/districts. For an article I was really afraid of, this is coming along just great. (WT-en) Majnoona 09:08, 22 Feb 2004 (EST) --- Air India is the carrier that services destinations abroad while Indian Airlines services destinations within India. However times have changed and Indian Airlines now flies to destinations in the middle east.

There are no 3rd Class services in the Indian Railways only 2nd Class. The 3rd class existed a long time ago, its now abolished. If you are wondering why some compartments have wooden benches while some have cushioned upholstery, the difference is between the RESERVED compartments and the UN-RESERVED ones.

By the way do you know that the Indian Railways is the world's largest employer!

-(WT-en) Sridhar Pandurangiah 17:45, 23 Feb 2004 (IST)

---

General question about updates:

Suppose I want to add some information about (say) the Qutab Minar in Delhi, and I find some info links that come off a travel agent's page. is it appropriate to add a link to this page, or is that unwarranted advertising ? (WT-en) Schizoid 14:35, 27 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * See Project:External links. In general, we like to link to first sources for information, such as official Web sites for businesses or attractions, government tourist agencies for locations, etc. Considering that there's a ton of information on the Qutab Minar available, it's probably best to include that information on Wikivoyage itself, rather than linking out to other secondary sites. --(WT-en) Evan 16:05, 27 Feb 2004 (EST)

Photo
Do we have a better, travel-related photo for India? I'd remove this one, it's not really travel-centric. Last time people complained loudly, if unjustified, about my removal practices and I am too old and tired to argue about Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Nils 10:19, 19 Apr 2004 (EDT)

The formatting looks awkward. I am too noobie to change this. -- (WT-en) pamri

Holiday List
People, the list of holidays is very misleading, even with the disclaimer at the bottom. Hindu holidays never occur on the same day from year to year. Is it there for some reason already discussed or is just because of inertia? If it is the former, tell me or I will be editing it to conform to reality tomorrow. (WT-en) Ravikiran 05:16, 13 Jan 2005 (EST)
 * Please make it conform to reality. It has probably not even been reviewed for accuracy - just accepted without discussion as it looked about right and nobody else knew enough to say different. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:06, 13 Jan 2005 (EST)

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Baksheesh
Interestingly, on my first reading, I thought it was a good idea that somebody had pointed out baksheesh; to illustrate an example, it could mean the difference between getting excellent service at a hotel, restaurant, hostel, taxicab etc, or not. Indians themselves rarely engage in the practice, however. Most of them are quite used to the experiences that exasperate a lot of travelers. After reading that people had found that remark biased, I have been considering the opinion who those who oppose the mention of the word in the India guide. Baksheesh is quite common, but largely only among travelers, and I wonder if this practice could itself have originated from travel guides that discuss it as if it were a rampant way of life for most Indians. Baksheesh has undoubtedly existed in India for a longer time than people have read travel guides, this is much is certain. But it appears that an anachronistic Indian custom has reappeared as a permanent fixture in that cultures experience with travelers. Baksheesh is not bribes either. In Hindi, the word for bribes (usually 'ghoos') is distinct from 'baksheesh', which originates in Arabic and implies a gift, prize, reward, or a subtle blend of all three. Yes, bribes are not unheard of among Indians, but in that case they are clearly labeled 'ghoos' and considered with the same sense of public taboo that they are elsewhere in the world. Just because they happen more frequently than in Japan, does not mean the average Indian accepts them as a way of life. To assume that you can freely bribe everybody from shopkeepers to immigration officers in India and call it baksheesh will almost certainly get you in trouble in India.

Baksheesh, however, is something quite different. At some point during their occupation of India, the ruling British seem to have corrupted the custom into an implicit system of bribes for getting things done their way in India. While most of the colonisers have long since left, Indians continued contact with foreigners -in the form of travelers and tourists- seems to have kept the practice going. Is the practice illegal? Not unless the person involved is a government agent (although, who are we kidding, some of those who can afford it have been known to bribe policemen to avoid paying traffic fines). Is it immoral? Probably not. Does it breed resentment? Sometimes (but that is part of traveling in a country whose inhabitants are divided by a ferociously wide gulf between rich and poor. Yet, I don't think it should be removed from the guide. Baksheesh in, and of itself only implies a gift. Travelers need to be aware that, like anywhere else in the world, they will probably offend Indians if they believe they can throw money to swing every social transaction their way. You are essentially thanking somebody for an act appreciated. If you give it in that spirit --try giving people real gifts instead of money-- you are returning the hospitality. If you give only to get, your karma will catch up with you.

Common guys, do we really need the heading "Baksheesh"? It has almost nothing to do with travel :(

 * Really? I'd think that knowing how to give and get bribes is pretty important for travellers. I'm pretty sure that baksheesh (that's Arabic, right?) may not be the right term. But if a little greasing the wheels helps get things done in India, well... it's definitely worth noting. --(WT-en) Evan 21:15, 12 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Oh Well. Whatever you well traveled worldly people say. Hmm (WT-en) Srijith 23:14, 12 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * I guess I don't get your point. Are you saying that bribes won't get you a ahead in India? Or that the practice is not as widespread as mentioned here? Or that even if bribes happen, they're not useful to the traveler? Or is it the header itself, rather than the (admittedly pretty vague) information? Or that we don't have other information on bribery in Wikivoyage, so it isn't appropriate here? Or that this seems to be singling out India, or to be some kind of stereotype about India that's untrue?

 * I have absolutely no personal experience in India either way, so I really can't really say whether baksheesh info is worthwhile or not. --(WT-en) Evan 23:42, 13 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Yes, bribes do get you ahead in India at many places but then we are not editing a socio-political essay. Maybe because I am an Indian I have not faced any situation in my travel in India where bribe was asked for or did solve the problem. However I have had talks with some of my forgeign friends who have travelled in India and they too have not mentioned anything about bribes. Yes, I also take issue to the fact that it is a second level header, if at all you want to keep it somewhere! That too under "Buy"! Yes, I also take issue with the stereotyping involved. The word bribe occurs at only two places in the whole wikivoyage. Ofcourse yes I feel that India is being singled out. As I said earlier, corruption and bribes do have a pretty damaging presence in Indian society, but the question is, how much of this effects travelers to India. Do you get your visa processed faster if you offer bribe etc.?

 * It'd be wrong to extrapolate from anything showing up on only one or two pages on Wikivoyage at this stage of the game that the lack of that information on other pages is due to anything except the larval state of our guide. By the way, the other instance of the word "bribe" on Wikivoyage is in a page for my hometown (it's just a historical note, though).

 * What I am trying to voice out here is not any fanatical patriotism, but rather the fact that just because a socio-political problem exists in a country, it should not be highlighted in a traveler guide unless it really can be shown that the information helps a traveler. (WT-en) Srijith 03:31, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * The traveller comes first on Wikivoyage. We're under no obligation to show any destination, attraction, country or town in a positive or negative light. We are obliged to give information that will be of use to the traveler. You seem to be saying that the "Baksheesh" section isn't; I'm fine with you taking it off the page if that's the case. --(WT-en) Evan 03:47, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Maybe it doesn't need to be a section, but it definitely deserves mention. Also the fact that baksheesh isn't solely a bribe (but also money asked by beggars and sometimes by annoying people who do have money) is important to mention. When travelling in India for a longer time you will surely encounter the word "baksheeh" (and its meaning). It is good to know something about it beforehand. (WT-en) Guaka 08:44, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * About Hmm... I think the number of article talking about this should and will increase. It's a common phenomenon in many countries. Though maybe it should be brought in a way that discourages its use. (WT-en) Guaka 09:02, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Explaining about baksheesh in Indian is kinda like explaining about tipping in New York-- people should be told what the term means, and a little bit about when they will encounter it. I'm not even sure if "bribe" is the right translation. When I was in Indian and Nepal I ran into the "baksheesh issue" on a daily basis and sometimes I gave it and sometimes I didn't, just like I sometimes give cabbies a 15% tip and sometimes a 20% tip. Now actual "bribes", like government officals, etc, may be a different matter, but I'm thinking about when some kid shows you the way back to your hotel and holds out his hand and says "baksheesh," a traveller should know what is up. But I don't think it needs to be a central part of the article, so maybe just reduce it to a little paragraph. (WT-en) Majnoona

 * Running the risk of being branded a pain-in-the-a$*#, I have to say this, because it has to do with the standards of Wikivoyage. Note that this is not specific to this issue of Baksheesh, but rather a question of professional writing. There is always a good way to convey bad things. Take a look at Lonely Planet's take on baksheesh (scroll to the last para). It kind of says the same thing, except for leaving out the begging=baksheesh angle (which I think should be mentioned), but does it using a more prudent choice of words.

 * I know I can easily edit the India page and make it look better but the question is the style that Wikivoyage wants to promote among contributors and the message that Wikivoyage wants to convey. If Wikivoyage wants to be a comprehensive and influential travel guide, these things have to be considered.(WT-en) Srijith 22:23, 14 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Then go ahead and edit! I don't think we need to talk about messages. We just want to write a travel guide :) And in a travel guide about India something should be said about baksheesh. (WT-en) Guaka 11:51, 15 Jan 2004 (EST)

Indian Map
BTW the map of the northern most part is wrong. Jammu and Kashmir acceded into the Indian Union and the Pakistanis are just occupying it today. At least show the map with a dotted line saying that some portion is under dispute (as has been shown with the Chinese area).

 * We're still trying to work out how to do maps on Wikivoyage. The map you see was imported from the CIA World Factbook 2002, a public domain resource we used to begin the country pages for Wikivoyage. Thanks for the note on J&K; I guess we're probably going to have a lot of trouble with maps like that. -- (WT-en) Evan 13:02, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)

http://www.mapsofindia.com/maps/india/india-political-map.htm is a better map.

 * It doesn't seem to be free, so I don't think we can include it directly. But it'll make a good model. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Evan 13:02, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)

 * I took out the India map. It came from the mapsofindia website mentioned above and is copyrighted (it said so on the map itself). Please use a non-copyright map or make one yourself. (See ) (WT-en) D.D. 15:35, 7 Nov 2003 (PST)

 * it seems to me that a travel guide should reflect the reality of the situation and not the political history, or how the diferent sides would like it to be. The part of J&K presently governed by pakistan is for all practical purposes part of pakistan, irrespective of the history, that should be the fact that the map reflects.(WT-en) Keithonearth 18:41, 3 Dec 2005 (EST)

Wikipedia's Map
is based on the map from CIA's fact book with some modifications to present both the Indian border as preferred by the Indian Govt and the one in the CIA factbook. If noone objects it, I am prepared to add it. (WT-en) Pamri 07:14, 11 Nov 2004 (EST)

 * The Wikipedia map is GFDL-licensed and cannot be used as is. But if you can get the creation to relicense it as CC-SA it would be great. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:21, 11 Nov 2004 (EST)

Map of india
It just occurred to me that if someone prints out this page and takes it in his baggage into India, there is a very slight chance that he will get into trouble at the customs because of the map. It might be illegal to show the part of Kashmir occupied by Pakistan as part of Pakistan. I am not sure about this, but I do know that customs puts a stamp on every single copy of every international magazine that carries an "incorrect" map of India, saying that the map is incorrect. The odds of anyone getting into trouble over this are quite long, but the policy here seems to be that we are better safe than sorry. Do we remove the map and replace it with one that shows Pak-occupied Kashmir as disputed? (WT-en) Ravikiran 14:06, 11 Sep 2005 (EDT)

From the Factbook

 * Which can be found at Talk:India/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

So, I just clipped this from the factbook detritus:

 * Administrative divisions : 28 states and 7 union territories*; Andaman and Nicobar Islands*, Andhra Pradesh, Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Chandigarh*, Chhattisgarh, Dadra and Nagar Haveli*, Daman and Diu*, New Delhi*, Goa, Gujarat, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Jharkhand, Karnataka, Kerala, Lakshadweep*, Madhya Pradesh, Maharashtra, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland, Orissa, Pondicherry*, Punjab, Rajasthan, Sikkim, Tamil Nadu, Tripura, Uttaranchal, Uttar Pradesh, West Bengal

That makes 35 official regions -- far too many for us. Can we break this down into 7+/-2 reasonable regions? --(WT-en) Evan 21:15, 18 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * We can indeed. Maps of India breaks the country down into 6 zones:

 * North India: Chandigarh, Delhi, Haryana, Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Punjab, Uttaranchal and Uttar Pradesh.
 * West India: Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Daman and Diu, Goa, Gujarat, Maharashtra and Rajasthan.
 * South India: Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Lakshadweep, Pondicherry and Tamil Nadu.
 * East India: Bihar, Jharkhand, Orissa, Sikkim and West Bengal.
 * North-East India: Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura.
 * Central India: Chhattisgarh and Madhya Pradesh.
 * In turn (apart from Central India) they all consist of 5 to 8 subregions which correspond to states and territories. Another possibility would be to include the two Central Indian states in two adjoining regions: Chhattisgarh to East India and Madhya Pradesh to West India. This way we avoid having a region having only two subregions. (WT-en) DhDh 01:01, 19 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * That's a nice breakdown! --(WT-en) Evan 07:39, 19 Dec 2003 (PST)

Renew discussion
Is the linking of regions "West (India)" really clever? Are those the official names of the regions? -- (WT-en) Nils 20:57, 25 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * Regions don't have to be official. In the USA, none of the regions (except states) corresponds to anything official; even the South doesn't match the set of states that seceded. -(WT-en) phma 01:40, 26 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * No, these regions are not "official". But this is the way India gets split up usually. (See above -- and not only Maps of India does it this way). (WT-en) Dhum Dhum Akubra 04:20, 26 Mar 2004 (EST)

Very well; wouldn't the use of sub-pages be more consistent with the way we handle cities then? Especially for "generic" regions like "North"... we're bound to get a ton of those. -- (WT-en) Nils 06:03, 26 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * Yes, that would probably be more consistent. I had thought of using article titles like Northern India or Southern Brazil, but then we are going to get regions like Southwestern Western Australia, which are just a tiny bit confusing, aren't they? ;-) No, I really think your proposal is better. (WT-en) Dhum Dhum Akubra 06:29, 26 Mar 2004 (EST)

Spliting India up by putting the Gangetic Plane and the Himalaya in the same region is not how it's usually done, nor does it make much sence really. The regions are diferent cultrally, and linguisticly; as well as in ways that directly effect travelers, for example transport, and activities for tourists. How about divideing The North into the Gengetic Plain (or perhaps Ganges Plain to be less gramaticly pedantic and more clear) and the Himalaya?(WT-en) Keithonearth 18:54, 3 Dec 2005 (EST)
 * Not a bad idea. Can you propose a division here? The north is the largest region and is a good candidate for splitting. The Gangetic region includes Bihar, which has now been put in the East. Bihar and Jharkhand used to be part of the same state, so I am not sure if it is a good idea to have them in different regions - But then, Jharkhand is a tribal state and has more in common with Chhatisgarh, which is now in the East - so I think it's not a bad idea either... --(WT-en) Ravikiran 05:19, 4 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * It's more complicated than I thought. I'm a Himalaya freak so my priority was giveing them there own section.  The simplest thing to do would just to be just to split off the obvious Himalayan states J&K, HP, Uttarranchal, Sikkim, (I'd say leave Arunachal in the North East catigory, although that may because I know nothing about Arunachal exept that next to no tourists go there) and to put the rest of the north (Chandigarh,Delhi,Haryana, Punjab,Uttar Pradesh in another catigory). They seem to go together well to me, and that the only problem is in finding a suitable name.  The Northern Plains is the best I can come up with.  What do you think?(WT-en) Keithonearth 09:45, 8 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Yes, definitely the Himalayan states of HP, J&K, Uttarranchal, Sikkim should be categorized as a group distict from the states of the plains. For the others (Chandigah to UP), I suggest they be listed as 'Plains (West)'. Other states in the plains, such as Bihar, Jharkhand and West Bengal can be classified as 'Plains (East). I'm for placing Assam in a 'north-east' section along with states such as Arunachal, Shillong etc. I think we need (WT-en) Ravikiran's help here. 9 December 05.

New Proposal

 * Himalayan North (India) - Himachal Pradesh, Jammu and Kashmir, Uttaranchal
 * Northern Plains (India) - Haryana, Punjab, Delhi, Chandigarh Uttar Pradesh, Madhya Pradesh and Bihar.
 * West (India): Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Daman and Diu, Goa, Gujarat, Maharashtra and Rajasthan.
 * South (India): Andaman and Nicobar Islands, Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka, Kerala, Lakshadweep, Pondicherry and Tamil Nadu.
 * East (India): Jharkhand, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Sikkim and West Bengal.
 * North-East (India): Arunachal Pradesh, Assam, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland and Tripura.

This gets rid of the oddity that put Bihar, UP and MP in different regions - they are as homogenous as one can get in India. It puts the Himalayan states together. Sikkim is an oddball. It does not really fit with the other Himalayan states - there is an entire country between them. So we have to lump it with the East. Other than Sikkim, the east really consists of two cultural groups - Orissa-WB (similarity of language and all) and Jharkhand-Chhatisgarh (tribal belt). The South should be uncontroversial. The grouping of those seven states into the North-east is well-accepted (they are called "seven sisters")  and as for the West, this is the best you can get.

Comments welcome. I am going to think over this for a couple of days more before making the change. --(WT-en) Ravikiran 09:02, 19 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Looks good, but just a few thoughts come to mind. Do we need to include northern to indentify the plains area. It implies that there is a southern plains, which of course there isn't. Furthermore, as the areas identified as being west or east are primarily in the north or central area, I wonder whether this could some how be made clear. Otherwise, Kerala should also be part of the area categorized as west India and Pondecherry part of that called east. Just throwing out thoughts here - not necessarily suggesting this is how it should be done. 19 Dec 05

 * Oh West, East and South are not a problem. The terminology is commonly understood. Nobody will place a southern state in the west or east. It's like the US South. Everyone understands that not all southern states are included, only the ones on the Eastern Seabord.

 * Using "Plains" will probably work though --(WT-en) Ravikiran 11:23, 19 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * I am taking the plunge when I have time next. Speak now or forever hold your peace. --(WT-en) Ravikiran 08:00, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * I've done it. Have I left out any loose ends? --(WT-en) Ravikiran 03:16, 25 Dec 2005 (EST)

International Rail Links to India
I got the information from here and here. Filed for future reference. What it says about the Samjhauta Express is however outdated. (WT-en) Ravikiran 14:04, 11 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Cleanup
This article needs a cleanup. I've been putting it off for too long, but I am starting now. If anyone has suggestions/complaints, please put them here. --(WT-en) Ravikiran 00:35, 6 Dec 2005 (EST)

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Talk:India/Old cities

Cities
India has many large and famous cities. Below is a list of the most well-known. Other cities are listed under their specific regional section.

Largest cities

 * New Delhi, the Capital of Ancient Bharat (then called "Indraprastha") and Modern India - The political capital of India

 * Ahmedabad
 * Bangalore - The Garden City, Pub City, Silicon Valley of India, Land of Silk, Gold, Sandal Wood, Incense etc.
 * Bombay (Mumbai) - The financial capital of India, "Bollywood" (Indian Film Industry's hub)
 * Calcutta (Kolkata) - Known as City of Joy.
 * Hyderabad - Pearl city of India, and part of the Silicon Plateau with Bangalore
 * Madras (Chennai) - City of Temples, Home of famous Marina Beach, Automobile Capital of India
 * Pune - Pune is located in the Western India and is Maharashtra's cultural capital.

Tourist destinations

 * Agra - Home of the Taj Mahal
 * Amritsar - The Golden Temple, Sikh holy city
 * Shimla - The summer capital of former British India is a small jewel in the lush Himalayan foothills.
 * Srinagar - Famous for Dal lake, located in the picturesque Himalayas
 * Varanasi - A sacred Hindu city located on the banks of the Ganges.

Other destinations

 * National reserves, sanctuaries Thekkady, Muthumala, Yercaud, Kumarakom
 * Hill StationsOoty, Kodaikanal, Munnar, Gulmarg, Sonamarg, Ladakh, Leh, Kufri, Auli, Narkanda, Kullu, Manali, Dharamsala, Dalhousie, Lahaul, Spiti, Sarahan, Nainital, Mussoorie, Rishikesh, Char Dham, Kumaon, Garhwal, Gangtok, Darjeeling, Zanskar, Nandi Hills
 * Beaches Kovalam, Beaches in Goa, Andaman and Nicobar.

Sacred sites
As the birth place of several world religions, India is home to many sacred and holy sites:

 * Ajanta Caves, Maharashtra State - a complex of caves representing some of the best of early Buddhist art.
 * Ayodhya, Uttar Pradesh - Birth Place of Lord Rama.
 * Bodh Gaya, Bihar State - the place where the Buddha Shakyamuni attained enlightenment.
 * Ellora Caves, Maharashtra State - a complex of caves representing Buddhism, Brahmanism and Jainism.
 * Guruvayur, Kerala - Bhulooka Vaikuntam, abode of Lord Sri Guruvayurappan
 * Golden Temple, Punjab State - the site of the holiest Sikh temple.
 * Haridwar/Rishikesh, Uttaranchal State - Important pilgrimage centres.
 * Karnak temple on the East coast with erotic sculpture
 * Kushinagar, Uttar Pradesh - the site of the Buddha Shakyamuni's death.
 * Madurai, Tamil Nadu - Temple of Goddess Meenakshi and Lord Sri Sundareswara(Shiva).
 * Mahabalipuram a seaside temple town South of Madras
 * Manthralayam, Andhra Pradesh - Sri Guru Ragavendhra Temple
 * Mathura, Vrindavan, Uttar Pradesh - Birth Place of Lord Krishna
 * Nalanda, Bihar State - Site of an early Buddhist University/monastic center
 * Sanchi, Madhya Pradesh is the site of a great Buddhist stupa.
 * Sarnath, near Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh - the site of the deer park where the Buddha Shakyamuni first taught the Buddha Dharma.
 * Swamithoppepathi, Tamil Nadu - The head quarters of religion of Ayyavazhi.
 * Tirupati and Tirumala, Andhra Pradesh - Kaliyuga Vaikuntam, abode of Lord Sri Venkateswara
 * Tiruvallur, Tamil Nadu - Temples of Sri Vaidhya Veeraraghava Swami and Sri Viswaroopa Panchamukha AnjaneyaSwami
 * Tiruvannamalai,Tamil Nadu - Temple of Lord Shiva

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Talk:Indiana

Cities
I don't want to get too carried away with the number of cities. Should we limit it here to just to the top 10 according to pop and then list the rest on the regions pages? (WT-en) Nowimnothing 14:34, 17 May 2006 (EDT)
 * Yes. 9 or 10 is the standard limit.  See Project:Region_article_template.  Doesn't have to be by pop, though; interest to the traveler is better, but more subjective. -- (WT-en) Jonboy 14:59, 17 May 2006 (EDT)

Bloomington
Bloomington -- Home of Indiana University. -- But according to the Bloomington article the place is in Illinois. or are there two Bloomingtons? Bloomington (Indiana) and Bloomington (Illinois) - meaning disambiguation is needed. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:23, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

 * I have now disambiguated the page. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:42, 1 Apr 2005 (EST)

 * And I have confused this disambiguation :-) by moving the Bloomington (Illinois) page to Bloomington-Normal (Illinois) to start turning the two parts of the "Twin Cities" into a single destination, as recommended in the discussion page there. I think I got everything done that needed doing on this ...   Incidentally, there are several other Bloomingtons in the United States, and maybe some in other English-speaking countries, so we're probably not done with this. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 19:29, 27 Dec 2005 (EST)

Expansion
I'm working on expanding this article to incorporate more travel information about our lovely state. If you intend on visiting Indianapolis please leave me a message on my talk page and we can chat a bit more about it (per dossier). (WT-en) Missvain 10:55, 18 December 2006 (EST)

Region names
I am willing to change the names, but first we need to work out a structure and move sub pages to the right spot. I will look at some other states and post some samples. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 19:50, 21 December 2006 (EST)
 * I agree with you it is sort of shoddy. It's hard defining the areas, and I researched into any serious "offical" titles for the regions and there wasn't one. I'm pretty open minded with defining the areas. The easier and less the better. I'm expanding the region pages, and I figure if we can come up with a good idea for each 'section' then we can just cut and paste the information (get in/out/stay/see/buy/do etc) to that areas page(s). (WT-en) Missvain 22:46, 21 December 2006 (EST)
 * Thanks. Great work on Indy by the way. It seems most of the other states break down regions into North, South, Central, etc. unless there is a popular travel spot like Pennsylvania Dutch Country.

We can move this discussion over to Indiana and see what we can come up with. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 16:50, 22 December 2006 (EST)
 * Illinois chicagoland broken out
 * Ohio central and 4 corners
 * Michigan UP broken out

 * What should we call the region around Chicago? I think that and central are the easiest to define. People around here just call it the region. Michiana would probably be a subset of the chicagoland region. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 16:50, 22 December 2006 (EST)

 * I think "The Region" is good. Everyone I know who comes from that area (Lowell, Hobart, etc) calls it "The Region." The only concern I really have is about defining areas "east and west" of Central Indiana. What counties do we call the line at? I figure the few counties surrounding INdianapolis? And when do we call it the quits at the SW/NW/SE/NE areas. I'm sure there is a simple area, but my brain is fried from working this Holiday season. Btw, I built pages for the Indiana National Parks that didn't have pages previous George Clark and Lincoln Boyhood. (WT-en) Missvain 23:55, 22 December 2006 (EST)

 * Great, I think we have to break the regions down into blocks of counties. The number of regions is up to us, but it seems most of the other states stay around 4-8. I don't think Indiana is diverse enough to warrant more regions than that. If we can define some general regions, then we can debate where individual counties fit if we need to. Any system is going to have flaws, but it will still look better than those wacky congressional maps.

 * So for starters, maybe we have:

 * Region - Counties near Chicago in the Central Time Zone
 * Central - Indianapolis and surrounding counties
 * Southern - Everything South of Indy that is not in one of the other regions?
 * Western/Wabash - Not really comfortable with Wabash Valley since it goes all the way to Kentucky.
 * Eastern - Fort Wayne

 * But then we lose South Bend, since it is on eastern time now, maybe add Michiana back, though I am uncomfortable with that too since Michiana includes counties in Michigan. Maybe just Lake Michigan is better.

 * I am going to be out of the country for a couple weeks, feel free to try out new ideas for organization. We can always use the move feature instead of cutting and pasting into a new structure. That method is actually better since it keeps the page history. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 16:00, 23 December 2006 (EST)

 * Also remember that the state and region pages don't have to have as much info as the city pages. They are more general in nature and may just highlight things that you will not find in the city pages. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 16:06, 23 December 2006 (EST)

 * I know you don't like the Michiana thing, but thats a common term it seems for people who live in the north central Indiana area and are on the border. I like it better then "Lake Michigan" just because most people associate that area with Michigan state itself.  I've been building up region/state pages more for activities that are not featured in the city pages, and activities that encompass broader areas or don't fit into city pages. As seen in my contributions. Hope you enjoy your trip! (WT-en) Missvain 21:13, 25 December 2006 (EST)

 * Thanks! See wikipedia:michiana for a clarification on why it seems innapropriate to me. It technically includes 2 counties in Michigan. I agree the region names are difficult. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 18:54, 11 January 2007 (EST)

 * I noticed another use just added some more region related things - north central, etc. It's really frusterating trying to figure out what to list. We just need to keep it as simple as possible. Take a look at the users change and I trust you to figure out what is best for our humble state :D (WT-en) Missvain 14:36, 15 January 2007 (EST)

 * Ugh... I think we can get rid of that since it just copies Michiana. I found this that has some interesting regions defined. I think 12 is too much and 3 is too little but maybe we can combine them to come up with something. Then again there is a certain simplicity to the 3 region map . I guess the question is whether the regions would be  alike enough in a travelers mind to warrant this grouping. (WT-en) Nowimnothing 10:22, 16 January 2007 (EST)

Ok I went with the simplest solution, the 3 region breakdown. If we need more categories in the future we can always break those down even more, but with the amount of content we have right now, 3 is probably fine.208.23.140.34 19:03, 18 January 2007 (EST) oops it logged me out (WT-en) Nowimnothing 19:04, 18 January 2007 (EST)

 * That looks great, now I can work on expanding the regions. :D (WT-en) Missvain 14:08, 14 February 2007 (EST)

Photos
I also wanted to mention that we really need some good photos of Indiana/cities/places/regions. I'm going to make a strong effort to keep my digital camera on me for photo ops. It's easier to just do it ourselves then to find legit photos we can use online. So all you Hoosiers take those photos, share them and post them! :) (WT-en) Missvain 00:02, 23 December 2006 (EST)

Regions

Could someone that knows the area put Bloomington (Indiana) and Evansville on the correct Region page & update their isin's? -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 13:08, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

 * The regions for Indiana currently leave gaps and overlap—the two most basic things we strive to avoid with regional hierarchies. To the right is a rough, draft map of how I see the current scheme (except without the gaps and overlap). See this map  to help decipher which counties are which. Central Indiana in this scheme is far too large, but we can break that into pieces after agreeing on these borders. Thoughts? If there are none, I'll plunge forward with this in one week and reorganize our Indiana guides accordingly.  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:44, 17 April 2009 (EDT)
 * My experience I don't really know that I've heard northern Indiana talked about as three separate regions, but it makes sense in terms of the municipalities there. You may want to slice up a Terre Haute-to-Bloomington region and name it "Southwestern Indiana;" that would take care of the huge mass that is Central Indiana. Again, I don't know that I'm familiar with anyone referring to it that way, but it makes some kind of sense, I suppose. -(WT-en) Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 11:33, 17 April 2009 (EDT)

 * OK, I've updated this now, and took the suggestion for "southwestern Indiana." I'm not so sure that this regional breakdown is optimal, but it's a whole lot better than the confused mishmash we have been using. We can always revisit it in the future, but for now I'm going to plunge forward and implement the new hierarchy. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:21, 14 May 2009 (EDT)

 * Bah! Now I see this breakdown. I like it a lot, and a lot better than the existing one that I was just putting hard work into. I'm going to change the formula to this one, and my hunch is no one will object. If they do, we can, as always, revisit. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:40, 14 May 2009 (EDT)

Dr Who
Do we cover this? The Largest Doctor Who-Themed Store In The U.S. Is In Indiana And It’s Practically A Tardis Pashley (talk) 08:23, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

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Redirect
Per Project:What is an article? airlines do NOT get their own article. This article may be a subject for a VFD, but in the mean time I've redirected. -- (WT-en) Ryan 22:17, 21 October 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Indianapolis

Untitled
I've pretty much rebuilt and rewritten this article. I go to these bars, I go to these restaurants, I go to these shops and I experience this city everyday. It's nice to be able to have the chance to share it with other people. I tried to offer up mainly local establishments for people to visit, since chains populate most of this country anymore. Please write if you have any questions or curiousities about Indianapolis. And please, other Hoosiers, add your travel info! :) (WT-en) Missvain 00:48, 15 December 2006 (EST)

 * Missvain, you've done an incredible job expanding our coverage of this interesting city. Thank you so much -- your work is going to help thousands of travelers.

 * Would you be interested in acting as a docent for the Indianapolis article? That way, if readers have questions, they can ask you directly on your user page. --(WT-en) Evan 07:31, 15 December 2006 (EST)

 * Evan, thanks, yes, I would like to be a docent. I thought I added the docent note at the bottom of the page, but perhaps I did it incorrectly? Thanks a lot for the encouragement. (WT-en) Missvain 09:44, 15 December 2006 (EST)

Districts
A few months ago this article sucked so I have to give props to Sarah for bringing it in line with MoS and filling it out, but now it's a little too informative. Should Indy follow the guidelines for a huge city and be broken down into districts? Viewing this in the eyes of a traveler this article offers an amazing amount of information that can't be found in any paper guide book, but since it's all lumped together it's very hard to discriminate which information is relevant to my needs. The amount of information is kind of a roadblock (pun intended) rather than a help so I'd encourage breaking the article down into districts for readability. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 15:14, 15 January 2007 (EST)

 * I am sorry it took me so long to get back to you. I'd be totally okay with putting the entries into districts, it's just an overwhelming task that I struggle with when it comes to districting the page. Perhaps you can give me some tips or ideas about doing this for my fair city. Thank you! (WT-en) Missvain 14:04, 14 February 2007 (EST)
 * Wow this guide has loads of info! We need to get this split up I think. The first thing we need to do is to come up with some ideas for where the districts should be, then we can begin shifting the listings out... Any suggestions for districts? -- (WT-en) Tim (writeme!) 12:22, 12 August 2007 (EDT)
 * Split Makes sense to me, but I have no emotional investment in it. -(WT-en) Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:24, 12 August 2007 (EDT)

 * Suggestion from Koavf on my talk page is for districts to be Westside/Speedway, Northside and Carmel, Southside and Greewood, Eastside, and Downtown. Any further comments? -- (WT-en) Tim (writeme!) 16:09, 14 August 2007 (EDT)

 * I would recommend defining clear district borders before proceeding to split, see recommendations in Project:Geographical_hierarchy for more details. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 16:18, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

 * Yeah, that district proposal sounds just right to me. And as soon as someone does come up with nice, clear borders, lets do this—this article is a lot to take in at one time. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:51, 21 April 2008 (EDT)

Price category for Shapiro's
Just noticed that Missvain moved Shapiro's into the "moderate" price category with the comment, "moved shaprio's to moderate. it's a pricey cafeteria!!" While I'll agree it's slightly more expensive than the average cafeteria, I think it's still "cheap" overall. Seems to me the useful comparison is to all restaurants, not just to other cafeterias. Thoughts? (WT-en) Chuck Carroll 15:05, 4 February 2008 (EST)

 * Hi Chuck..I honestly think it's moderate still. I know you get a lot of food for your money, but man, the average budget traveler might not want to opt to go to Shapiro's. I can only afford to honestly throw down for a lunch there once in the blue moon. But, either way, it's listed, and that's cool! And whats pricey for me isn't always pricey for others :) (WT-en) Missvain 22:14, 20 April 2008 (EDT)
 * I still disagree. You can get a full meal there (i.e., not just an entree) for 12-14 bucks, which is less than half of what you'd spend at some of the other restaurants in the "mid-range" price category.  Is it more expensive than, say, Yat's?  Sure.  Will some very budget-conscious travellers opt to avoid it because of the price?  Sure.  But I don't think a restaurant where the entrees cost less than $10 should fall in the "mid-range" category.  If the cutoff between budget and mid-range is that low, there are quite a few other restaurants currently listed as "budget" which would have to be moved to mid-range.  (Bazbeaux, Greek Islands, Iaria's, Shalimar, Bosphorus, just of those I'm familiar with.) (WT-en) Chuck 12:39, 16 December 2008 (EST)

 * I'd agree that the cafeteria should be kept in the budget category. (And I dropped a wad of cash at Greek Islands last time I was there!) Anyway, I've been meaning to mention here that this is one heck of a guide. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:19, 16 December 2008 (EST)

Question
Isn't this article too long for Indianapolis? It's just as long as the Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, London, and Paris articles. Surely if one can find this much to write about for Indianapolis, then the aforementioned cities articles should be even longer as they have much more history, attractions, and facts to offer. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 66.192.176.30 (talk • contribs)

 * It's not half as long as the guides for those cities. Chicago has 27 articles included in its guide, NYC has 27 as well, and is barely half finished. London has 69 articles (this is probably too many). San Francisco has 15. Indianapolis has only one, and I think it does a good job of covering the city. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 08:31, 21 May 2009 (EDT)

 * I think I can understand, although not necessarily agree, with the anon comments above. I think the article is well on its way. I have spent time trying to clean up abbreviations Project:Abbreviations, price ranges, etc., today. I also attempted to start to split up the Eat/Budget items, and see the mid-range currently has 19 listings (if you like, cool; if location makes better sense, perhaps someone with more expertise on Indy could take a stab). Two things would probably help: The +/-7 rule of thumb could probably be applied to sections, and 2) trying to be concise when possible Project:Tone.

 * Unbeknownst to most, Indy has an awful lot to offer visitors. I'd definitely split the city into districts rather than reduce the size of the article. A division along the lines of Downtown, Broad Ripple, North Side, West Side, East Side, South Side would probably make sense, although that may be a bit more districts than one would want. Maybe North and West could somehow be combined? Or create a giant Outskirts article to cover North, West, and East? None of those areas have much to see, although there is plenty to eat! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:15, 16 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Support the above. (WT-en) Zepppep 12:54, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

 * I was just going to ask whether the city should be districted, when I noticed this thread. I want to detout and copy edit the entire "Drink" section, but boy is it freakin long! It looks like the discussion got some way toward a consensus to divide the city into a couple of articles in 2010 before it mysteriously petered out. What do you all think now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:16, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I've made this city guide my mission here, so I'll be happy to head up districting it. For what it's worth, I'm a lot more familiar with the city now, so I can do a more intelligible job chopping it into districts. I have also been going through and updating/correcting a lot of entries. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:37, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
 * Wonderful! Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:41, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Making districts
A first attempt From what I can tell, I think the following districts would be reasonable for cutting up this article but I also have some caveats below:
 * Downtown. This is a more-or-less logical place to start in any city. There are definable cultural districts and historical boundaries that make this straightfoward. I would imagine that we could include Fountain Square/Fletcher Place as well, since they are more accessible from downtown than from the Near Eastside.
 * Near Eastside (and Irvington). Again, this is actually defined by NESCO with pretty clear borders.
 * Far Eastside and Lawrence. This is a broad crescent along the city and what is technically an entirely separate city itself.
 * The Southside, Beech Grove, and Southport. Southport is a tiny town which is not included in Indianapolis; Beech Grove is somewhat more sizable. The extreme southeast is mostly farmland and the extreme southwest is largely industrial, so there are really only travel attractions in the center of the southside leading to Greenwood.
 * The Westside and Speedway. West of the White River, including the barrio, Haughville/Stringtown, Speedway (again, a technically separate city surrounded by Indianapolis), up through Eagledale/Georgetown.
 * Meridian-Kessler/Rocky Ripple/Broad Ripple (and South Broad Ripple). Including the Fairgrounds, Butler's campus and the Art Museum, and cutting across a band through much of the North and Northeast side. This is a bit of a hodge-podge but I feel like it's not unreasonable that someone would travel through these parts of the city and they lead into one another pretty logically in my view.
 * The Northside. Trader's Point, Zionsville, Geist, Fishers, Nora, and Castleton--all south of Carmel. These are all similar enough from 72nd Street through 96th (where the county and city end) and lead into Carmel geographically, culturally, and socio-economically. The parks and reservoirs on the Westside and in Lawrence can act as boundaries for this district.

Indianapolis is most identical to Marion County for legal reasons but some communities have not been incorporated. To the traveler, this distinction is irrelevant. The Northside and Southside immediately lead into Carmel and Greenwood respectively--the urbanization is indistinguishable. On the Westside, there are some suburbs which have grown significantly in the past 15 years, so Moorseville, Plainfield, Avon, Danville, Browsburg, and Pittsboro (starting roughly south and heading north) could all have genuine tourist appeal. The Eastside immediately drops off into farmland and the tiny community of Cumberland (Indiana). I'm not sure how we should approach this in the guide. It makes sense to me that from a traveler's perspective, it's immaterial if they are staying at a hotel on 86th Street and go a mile north and are in Carmel. I'm not 100% how to approach this. I made Cumberland (Indiana) for instance, only because it's a separate municipality and I found similar articles on very small towns which are not travel destinations for anyone (e.g. Shelbyville (Indiana). But anyone staying on the far eastside has easy access to Cumberland and vice versa. It seems like it's not helpful to break up the Indy metro area into separate articles on Beech Grove and Southport. The only exception might be Anderson (Indiana), which is sufficiently far away and has enough resources of its own. Thoughts? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 04:29, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

 * Justin - I don't know Indianapolis myself, and I'd wager that if you haven't received any responses to this post yet, you're not going to. I'd say proceed with the districting as you see fit. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 15:50, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for writing back. I understand if you're not familiar with my hometown but can you help me understand the questions in my last paragraph? This is really vexing me... —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you can be more specific with your questions. The upshot is that you can divide things up however it makes the most sense from a travel perspective. You are not limited to following municipal boundaries. Powers (talk) 18:48, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * There are small communities which have guides here but they are not likely travel destinations in part because of their obscurity and size and in part because they are right next to major cities which might be actual travel destinations. Should these smaller guides be redirected to the larger cities? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:12, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * They can be. I can't make any blanket pronouncements on whether they should be or not. Powers (talk) 14:47, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Possible source
See here. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Hockey
Hi - I took the liberty of removing the entry about the Indiana Ice, as they are currently listed in a "dormancy status" by the USHL and aren't playing until at least next season "while the organization focuses on development of a new facility and permanent home, The Lyceum Pavilion, in the Indianapolis area" (according to Wikipedia article).

Added information about Indianapolis's current ECHL hockey team, the Indy Fuel. —The preceding comment was added by 50.90.246.124 (talk • contribs)

 * Thanks for plunging forward and taking care of this. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:12, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Additions to make
—The preceding comment was added by Koavf (talk • contribs)
 * Polly's Big Slice
 * Indy Late Nite
 * Sandra's
 * Eagle's Nest
 * Tlaoli
 * White Rabbit
 * Mann's Grill
 * Just Pizza
 * More Than Just Pizza
 * Pogue's Run
 * Georgetown Market
 * Love Handle
 * bnb on Lynhurst
 * rabble
 * Lawrence go-kart park
 * Famous tomato
 * Thirsty Scholar
 * La Parada
 * More instances of convert. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Star nomination
In terms of quality, I think this fits well. Libertarianmoderate (talk) 23:27, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

 * Yes, it's quite a good article, and is at guide status. But a quick scan through quickly reveals that it needs work before becoming a star article. For a start, it has too many listings in my opinion (which maybe should mean districtification or some cleanup), and a lot of these don't have coordinates. If this is going to be a star article, all of the business listings in See, Do, Eat, Drink, and Sleep should have coordinates. However, the article is well-formatted, so that is a plus.
 * But there are some other issues as well, I'm sure, so I actually think this would make a better destination of the month at the moment, and then perhaps in the longer term become a star article. Selfie City (talk) 00:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Indianapolis was up for DotM a while ago and ended up getting slushed. If you want a rundown of what improvements the article needs, that's a good place to start. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree that it's close but not there. :/ I've had districtifying the city as a project for years--it's such a mammoth undertaking. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:24, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 * —The preceding comment was added by 82.132.185.65 (talk • contribs)
 * Yep, definitely needs work, of the kind already mentioned. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:27, 5 September 2018 (UTC)

 * Result: slushed. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 17:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)

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Destination of the Month?
What does this article need to be featured as Dotm? What time of the year would be suitable? /Yvwv (talk) 11:00, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

 * Re: time of year: around the Indy 500. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:23, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Districts?
Destination of the month candidates/Slush pile mentions that this city should be divided into districts. Any spontaneous ideas about districts that would make sense? /Yvwv (talk) 12:24, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 * My perspective is the same as above . —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 15:54, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Indian Food

This is some good info, but it really doesn't fall under Project:What is an article? and should be moved under the "Eat" section of India. I'll go ahead and do this, but just wanted to let you know why. Great info btw!(WT-en) Majnoona 10:52, 8 Mar 2004 (EST)

 * I was about to say the same thing. Either in Eat under India or possibly as part of the phrasebook maybe? Either way.. -- (WT-en) Mark 10:56, 8 Mar 2004 (EST)

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Talk:Indian Forests

What's the difference between this an Indian national parks? Is one just going to be a super-set of the other? (WT-en) Majnoona 17:30, 25 May 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Indian National Holidays

Hmmm, I'm not sure about this... does it really need to be it's own article? Can't it be incorporated into India? I just dont think I want to see one of these for every destiantion... (WT-en) Majnoona 18:38, 17 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Yes, I think this should be in India. (WT-en) Yann 03:32, 18 Feb 2004 (EST)

 * Absolutely. --(WT-en) Evan 04:46, 18 Feb 2004 (EST)

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Talk:Indie London

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Travel Topic?
This should probably be a Travel topics article - perfect for that. Itineraries generally refer to trips or tours that have a sequence of some sort. --(WT-en) Wandering 11:24, 31 December 2007 (EST)

why not a part of London?
Why this article is not a part of London? It doesn't contain so much information so far--so it's unlikely that it will overload the London article in the foreseeable future. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 05:50, 26 January 2008 (EST)

VFD Discussion
No substantial edits in two years, points to a non-existent district article, would be easy to merge with London, which was suggested on its talk page at the time.
 * Merge and delete - (WT-en) Texugo 10:50, 16 September 2010 (EDT)
 * Merge and delete (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 16:31, 17 September 2010 (EDT)

Result: Merge tag added for London. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 20:09, 3 October 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Indigenous Peoples Trail

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