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User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill

See also User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/2005, User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/2006 and User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/2007 for archived talk ...

Santa Fe article
I don't see any problem with the Santa Fe article. By "break(ing) somewhere in the 'Museums' section", do you mean the browser loads to the museums section and then stops? My best guess there is that your browser is failing to load the page fully. I don't know how you could fix this. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 21:50, 19 February 2008 (EST)

MoS issue with New Mexico "Eat" listings...
Hey Bill. Listen, User:(WT-en) Texugo and I have been having a discussion about the Eat listings on the Albuquerque page. He's arguing that by our MoS standards, we shouldn't split local cuisine up from non-local cuisine ("New Mexican" vs "Other"), otherwise we'd have to do that to just about every article we have on Wikivoyage (Japanese articles with Japanese food versus Other, etc.).

Then I noticed that Santa Fe and Los Alamos also have this layout. So I wanted to get your opinion on the issue, seeing as you've been the main contributor to these articles. (WT-en) PerryPlanet 20:29, 30 March 2008 (EDT)

Why are you doing this?
Why are you helping (WT-en) Kitty revert my edits? --(WT-en) Red Forman 23:35, 30 May 2008 (EDT)
 * I'm trying to help out, Mr. Forman! [to Bill] Can you please block Red before he vandalizes more pages? --(WT-en) Kitty Forman 00:01, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

Someone tell her to shut-up! --(WT-en) Red Forman 00:09, 31 May 2008 (EDT)

protecting Discover template
Thanks for the warning. I don't want to block Jani's bot, but we're very concerned about vandalism on the templates on the home page. Judging by the quickness of your response, though, perhaps we can leave it to the admins to be vigilant. (WT-en) JuCo 13:49, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
 * I removed protection. Bill, is there a way to get notified when templates are changed? (WT-en) JuCo 14:17, 1 August 2008 (EDT)
 * Great news. I'm glad that loop hole is closed and, like you say, if it doesn't work, we'll keep thinking. Thanks for keeping me updated! (WT-en) JuCo 15:36, 1 August 2008 (EDT)

Admin nomination
Hey, I just nominated User:(WT-en) LtPowers for sysop status. I'd appreciate it if you would comment here. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:03, 17 August 2008 (EDT)

Colorado regions

Hey Bill, I noticed you led the charge on the Colorado regions organization, and I had a question. As the boundaries are currently defined, there is a "gap" (in black) between Southwestern Colorado and Northwestern Colorado, since I-70 (the northwest's southern border) slices 5 counties in half that are not included in the southwestern list of counties. Is it fair to include the southern half of those counties in the southwest of the state? If this isn't clear, I'll be uploading a map soon in which I do include those "half counties" in the southwestern region. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:17, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

 * By the way, that would put Aspen in the southwest, which may not be so great. Another option would be to take out the I-70 as southern border (except vis-a-vis South Central Colorado), and just let the region go down to the Southwestern Counties. What do you think? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:20, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

 * One last question (and feel free to move this discussion to Talk:Colorado if you like): don't the Front Range and Denver area overlap? Certainly Jefferson County would. Should we treat the Denver Area as a sub-region of the Front Range? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:23, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

GUPI
Excellent abbreviation! What if we make it more widely used in VFD page? :-) --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 17:15, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

vfd's
Thanks for clearing those out, I wanted to myself, but was too wrapped up in the arguments. I'm not sure what we can do about it, but all of these ones that keep coming up as "merge and redirect" never actually get merged before the vfd ends. Not sure what we can do about that though – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 18:46, 24 October 2008 (EDT)

 * Insert a notice (or something similar, stating there's consensus on merge) into the vfd'ed page, and leave it to be merged some day by a volunteer? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 16:53, 25 October 2008 (EDT)
 * Seems reasonable, and I'd like to have done that if there was a consensus to merge the Thailand articles. However, I didn't see any such consensus in those cases. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 17:48, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

 * The only thing with a merge template is that the article will likely sit there for ages, and essentially have been kept instead of deleted. Maybe some sort of time frame can be set to merge it before it's deleted. Like 14 days from end of vfd or something – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 18:17, 25 October 2008 (EDT)

 * I like the timeframe idea: if anyone care of preserving useful content, this is a good motivator to do so. As for "no consensus": has this approach seriously discussed before, somewhere? --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 07:24, 26 October 2008 (EDT)

Cityguide template
Hey Bill, why did you remove the cityguide template from Template:Smallcity? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:07, 9 November 2008 (EST)

Colorado's other Destinations
Hi Bill, You are the resident expert on all things in the Four Corners states, so I would appreciate your feedback on reorganzing Colorado's Other Destinations section. Please take a look at my post on the Talk Page. Thanks! (WT-en) WineCountryInn 14:11, 15 January 2009 (EST)

Kudos
Hey Bill - many thanks for your diligence in keeping the VFD page in order. Between that page and the "Discover" blurbs I think you've single-handedly kept two major sections of the site running over the past few months, and lest your good deeds go unnoticed I figured I'd drop a thank you here. Much appreciated! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:33, 4 March 2009 (EST)

 * Ditto, things would clearly fall apart without your work. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:02, 4 March 2009 (EST)

South Pole
I had moved the South Pole into the slush pile, because it doesn't have support, it's not at the required status level, and there haven't been any real significant changes made to the page to warrant keeping it. The nominations are a bit cluttered, and this one seemed like a dead-end nomination, but if you think it has potential, that's fine. It would definitely be an interesting feature. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 03:02, 20 April 2009 (EDT)

Discover Category
I had added entries to the top and middle in an attempt to eliminate the Japanese promince, which was mentioned on the talk page. Also, because Okayama is about to become a DotM, I was trying to prevent the Japanese entries from appearing so much in August. A few more entries could probably be used to diversify the Japanese entries towards the bottom, but I will certainly add to the bottom once they are more dispersed. By no means was I trying to promote my own additions to the page over those of other contributors. I appologize if it seemed that way. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 00:12, 30 July 2009 (EDT)

Turkish language interface
Hi, we have a problem for turkish language interface page.it cancelled.why cancelled?

(WT-en) Hasan 08:09, 12 August 2009 (EDT)

santa fe rentals
The B&B listing at least seems okay, I just had to format it. I took out the vacation rentals listing, not nessecairily because they're not allowed, but because it's actually a page of the B&B site.

Other than going to NYC over a month ago and coming back home from Pittsburgh, haven't gotten around too much in a while, what with classes the past few weeks and all. But I do intend to go to Zozobra tonight! (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 14:50, 10 September 2009 (EDT)

Admin nom
Please comment on Sabino434's nomination. Thanks. -- 94.75.123.43 14:58, 5 November 2009 (EST)

Southwestern Colorado regions
Hey Bill, we're thinking of creating subregions for Southwestern Colorado. I proposed a few, but as you likely remember, my knowledge of Colorado's travel geography is a little shallow. It would be great if you could take a look over that discussion and lend your thoughts! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:08, 14 November 2009 (EST)

Garduno's
Yeah, the other Garduno's are still open. There was a big tax-evasion incident, but the chain is still alive. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 15:26, 24 November 2009 (EST)

New to Wiki editing. Interested in helping Los ALamos New Mexico tourism.
Hi Bill, I am new to working with wikis. I live in Los Alamos, and work at LANL (theoretical biology, vaccine design), and am a member of the board of directors of the local nonprofit ski area. Although the ski area is a nonprofit organization, it needs to make enough money to support the operation of the lifts, snowmaking, snow grooming, lodge, etc. The ski area is a year-round resource for the Los Alamos community. Brian Foley

help needed
Hi Billonthehill, I forgot my login information. Is it possible for you to help me out or point me in the right direction? I just looked for admins and you were first on the list. Must be your lucky day... Anyway, I would appreciate the help.
 * --81.68.73.34 04:49, 17 March 2012 (EDT)

Account migration
Hi Bill - if you'd like to you can request that your old contributions be migrated to this new account using User account migration. Provided you can also confirm that this account is the same as your old account (via email or a web link) then I can also restore your admin rights. -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:44, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll send you an e-mail. I probably won't admin often after the startup, but clearly, right now it's handy to have people with the tools... -- Bill-on-the-Hill (talk) 01:08, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Migration complete. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:55, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

A hearty welcome back from me—it will be great to have you around for the busy launch ahead in particular, but I certainly hope you will stay around afterwards! --Peter Talk 18:05, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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Hello! Sorry for writing in English. As you're an administrator here, please check the message I left on MediaWiki talk:Licenses and the village pump. Thanks, Nemo 19:23, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

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Welcome back!
I suspect the above notice is what brought you out of hiding - it's nice to see a couple of edits in the recent changes list from you again. Hope all is well! -- Ryan • (talk) • 23:54, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. As I e-mailed LtP, I didn't think I really had much left to do here, but we're in the process of moving to an area that's not well covered, so why not?  Glad to see things are running well. -- Bill-on-the-Hill (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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Welcome
Hello Bill-on-the-Hill! Thanks for your work on Bandelier National Monument - for a first article it's coming along really well. You seem to have a solid grasp of how things work on Wikivoyage, but here's the boilerplate welcome anyhow:

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for plunging forward so far. If you're going to continue working on Wikivoyage, you may find the tips for new contributors helpful. You should also make sure you understand our copyleft and policies and guidelines. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub or on the talk page for the most appropriate article.

Thanks again! The United States National Parks are slowly but surely filling out. -- (WT-en) Ryan 21:37, 23 Aug 2005 (EDT)

El Malpais
And now it's my turn to request feedback! I spent just a few days at El Malpais National Monument back in March and then put together an article which is barely more than a stub. Not sure if you're very familiar with that park, but if you have any feedback or anything to add to the article it would be much appreciated! -- (WT-en) Wrh2 01:56, 26 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Thanks
Awesome Los Alamos work-- I need to go there!

 * Ditto on Carlsbad Caverns National Park. There were a few things that I meant to add, but at this point you've pretty much covered everything.  Great job! -- (WT-en) Ryan 01:32, 7 Sep 2005 (EDT)

 * Further kudos on some of your recent additions, including Santa Fe (New Mexico) and Santa Fe National Forest. If you can find photos for any of these then they are all fast becoming Project:Destination of the Month candidates.  Many thanks for your work! -- (WT-en) Ryan 02:38, 28 Sep 2005 (EDT)

On Wheels
Regarding your comment on User:(WT-en) Jpatokal's talk page, he was reverting page moves by User:(WT-en) Willy on Wheels! (or one of his many sock-puppets). The guy shows up occasionally, moves pages for a few hours, and then disappears. Kind of a weird hobby, but it seems to make him happy so we pretty much just let him do want he wants and then clean up afterwards. -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:35, 1 Nov 2005 (EST)

Hotels
Hi Bill. We've had a few hotel chains add info to wikivoyage in the past -- and we're okay with that. They often need to have the marketese stripped out and other stuff. The guy who edited Albuquerque, for example, edited a bunch of other articles where he put entries for outlying cities into the main regional city where it's more likely to be seen -- that's not okay. Other chains have put in Search Optimization where they link to their website with a phrase like "fort lauderdale beach hotel" rather than their own name in order to affect how Google behaves when searching for "fort lauderdale beach hotel." (Google's bots notice the phrases used for linking as an aid to categorizing the site).

But on the whole, we want the info. It just needs to be edited into shape. Looking up hotel listings in a phone book is generally a lot harder than editing a contributed hotel listing into shape.

Hotelmaker, by the way, only scrapes facts from hotel websites, not opinions. Facts can't be copyrighted, so they tend to be fair game under Copyright law. Plus, as you note, we don't want to allow marketing to infect listings. Thanks for your work! -- (WT-en) Colin 21:34, 8 Nov 2005 (EST)

Mount Bromo
Thanks for the accolades. Both pictures were taken from "Viewpoint #2", and I've now added a note about this. And yes, it really is very easy to get shots like that, provided you're willing to make the hike at dawn when the air is most likely to be clear. At the time of our visit Mt. Semeru was spitting out rather scary-looking mini-Hiroshima mushroom clouds every 10-15 minutes; if you look at the 2nd pic carefully, you can see two of these being pushed to the right by the wind. (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:06, 4 Dec 2005 (EST)

Articles needing attention
Thanks for adding all of my recent cleanups to the appropriate "articles needing attention" list. I used to try to keep the Project:Stubs needing attention article up to date, but it seemed a bit of a hopeless task and I never used the thing, so I guess I've gotten a bit lazy and disillusioned. I'll have to either do better or else try to dream up with some way to create a more automated list. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:15, 17 Dec 2005 (EST)

Happy Birthday!
+ Merry Christmas + Super 2006! (WT-en) Rmx 11:16, 24 Dec 2005 (EST)

Bloomington-Normal
Hi Bill, Sorry I haven't gotten around to working on the Bloomington-Normal article. I had intended to, but have been distracted by some other projects. Thanks for getting started on it (I intend to make a map for it, and for Santa Fe (New Mexico) as well. -- (WT-en) Mark 09:33, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

Illinois
Hey, Bill. I think you got some things wrong with Illinois regions; see Talk:Illinois. --(WT-en) Evan 12:22, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/2006

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Santa Fe maps
Hey! I've started working on a set of maps for Santa Fe on the grounds that it's a US destination so mapping is easy, and it's up for DOM. I figure I should keep you up-to-date on what I'm doing.

So far I have a basic map of Santa Fe County, which is just an import of pertinent Tiger/line data layers. Have a look (you can open the file with Inkscape, but only on a machine with a lot of memory).

I'm going to want your input on the subjects of detail and cropping, as well as parks etc. which are missing from the Tiger/line data, and eventually precise placement of listing icons. -- (WT-en) Mark 11:05, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

Hey Bill. Yeah, like I said where I'll need your help is with the cropping. The first thing I'm going to do is make a version that's cropped down to Santa Fe township (including the airport).

Check out Carbondale to see how I've done two maps, one close up with more detail and another with a wider area and less detail so that I could get all of the Sleep listings in. I figure this will probably be necessary for most US destinations since people usually have a car when travelling in the US and therefore can be expected to range a bit wider (if that makes sense).

Anyhow I started the Carbondale maps by doing this for Jackson County Illinois as well, so this is a preliminary step. I figured I would show you the full county version so that you can let me know if I need to also do cropped maps of any places outside of town (like maybe a ski resort or two?) -- (WT-en) Mark 12:43, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

Wide Area Map uploaded
Hi Bill, I've just uploaded the wide-area version of the SVG, the work for which only amounted to the deletion of roads and waterways outside of the area. All the other stuff can stay since the urban areas and parks don't use much disk space or memory.

If you could add a layer and put in marks of some kind for the eat/drink/sleep/do/see listings that would be fantastic! I can do it of course but I think it would be faster for you since you know the town better than I do. -- (WT-en) Mark 14:34, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

- I forgot to mention: I would suggest opening the file in Inkscape so that you can edit it (and see all the layers correctly). -- (WT-en) Mark 15:16, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

I think I may have had the "Roads" layer turned off when I did the previous upload. I just added a new one though which has the roads turned on and in which I've made I-25 yellow. Eventually I want to do that with all the highways, limited access or not. -- (WT-en) Mark 19:08, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * Hey Mark, if you see this, check your own discussion page; it seems to have become weird following the spam attack. Anyway, I haven't forgotten these maps, but am finding them very tough going.  Many older cities have basic street layouts that were apparently set up by following cow paths.  Santa Fe is unique among them, however, in that its cow paths seem to have been created by drunken cows.  I've lived in the vicinity for nearly 30 years, and I can't make heads nor tails of the roads -- just last month discovered an important route that I had no idea existed.  Transferring that to a map is predictably frustrating... -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 15:21, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * Actually the fake "Mark." user was created by a vandal some time ago. I don't much care about it, but I suppose I should eventually make it a redirect to my page.

 * I suppose that it will be easier to do the icons after the streets are labeled. I still don't have a very good way to automate that, but this gives me a good excuse to try.  -- (WT-en) Mark 22:56, 8 Jan 2006 (EST)

The map is looking good. Do you mind if I do some more editing though? It would be better for instance if the icons were SVG rather than PNG for instance. Also I usually make these SVG maps "full bleed" and then crop when I make the PNG.

I'll do some work on the street labels. I take it you prefer just having the major roads rather than highlighting the major roads? It's no big deal, just a style thing. -- (WT-en) Mark 12:10, 9 Jan 2006 (EST)

 * Actually, would you rather have me make changes or would you prefer a critique? It would be really great to have more contributors who can do this mapping stuff. -- (WT-en) Mark 14:30, 14 Jan 2006 (EST)

Here's a new version taken mostly from the Tiger/Line data. I don't know how precise the placement of the icons is, but this gives you an idea of where I would like to go with this. I think my downtown bounding box is a little big perhaps, but I wanted to be sure to get as much stuff inside of it as possible. I'm working on the street lables downtown now. -- (WT-en) Mark 11:16, 22 Feb 2006 (EST)

 * I'm glad you like the work. I guess my 8 years of art school are worth something, though probably not nearly what I still owe.  It's weird 'cause since I work as a programmer these maps are pretty much the only visual art or graphic design I do these days. Once in a while I do a party flyer for one of the local DJs but that's about it.  I'll figure out a good size for the downtown map after I get the streets down there labled, but I will definetly do as you say with St. Francis.  -- (WT-en) Mark 03:52, 23 February 2006 (EST)

Bad reichenhall article
You said the status of the Bad Reichenhall article is too high. In your opinion, what should the status be? (WT-en) Kingjeff 12:44, 17 Feb 2006 (EST)

North Central (New Mexico)
Hi Bill-on-the-hill, in response to your question on my talk page asking me what prompted me to look at the North Central (New Mexico) article, I'm currently looking at things to do in my summer vacation, and I've been trawling Wikivoyage for ideas!! It certainly does look like a cool place to visit!

(WT-en) Tsandell 07:45, 14 March 2006 (EST)

Hot springs
Alas, I know next to nothing about European hot springs — and after moving to the tropics they don't quite appeal in the same way, I can get an instant sauna just by opening the door... (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:21, 17 March 2006 (EST)

Redirect & Typos
Hi Bill - your point re: typos and redirects is well-taken and one that I argued a long while back (see and search for "Genevosa"). However, a few individuals have made the point (fairly passionately) that if one person has made a typo then someone else may make the same typo in the future, so turning typos into redirects should be the policy. No one seems to strongly disagree, so that's now the policy -- as always it could be discussed and changed, but there just doesn't seem to be a compelling reason why typos must be deleted, while some people feel passionately that they shouldn't be. To me the issue is sort of like the British vs. American spelling debate -- I just don't care that much, but will defer to those who do, so if this is one that keeps you awake at night, scares your children, and troubles your dreams, Project:Deletion policy is the place to be. -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:52, 19 March 2006 (EST)

 * Hey Bill - this one comes full circle: I deleted "Michigan State Univeristy" due to the consensus to delete it, despite you having redirected to Lansing (Michigan). While I agree that "Michigan State University" might be a case worth redirection, a misspelling ("univeristy") and a non-article seemed a clear case for deletion.  Your comment that you wouldn't be upset if it was deleted was hopefully an honest one, and if not feel free to berate me, insult my family, and generally vent - I'll take it like a man ;) -- (WT-en) Ryan 19:42, 11 April 2006 (EDT)

Bill AIM?
Aol instant messenger to ask about cities? mine is feverwarrior

 * None at the moment, sorry. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 09:29, 31 March 2006 (EST)

thanks anyway.

Amenia
Thanks Bill. (WT-en) SHC 19:20, 29 April 2006 (EDT)

List length
Yeah, I guess "policy" might not have been the best term. I guess it's generally just a guideline as to the length of the list of cities. I don't think it applies to other non-city things. I'm kind of up in the air about it, but I do think it's ridiculous when the text says, here are nine major cities, and someone adds their favorite city. -- (WT-en) Jonboy 19:31, 30 April 2006 (EDT)

Administrator nomination
Bill, I just added a nomination for you to the Project:Administrator nominations list. I hope you'll think about the idea. --(WT-en) Evan 10:03, 4 May 2006 (EDT)

Admin bit
Thanks for taking on the admin role; you're all set with the permissions, so you should see the fancy tabs across the screen. Please let me know if you have any problems. --(WT-en) Evan 23:10, 20 May 2006 (EDT)

85.195.123.29

 * No problem. I just came up with the welcome message. I think the idea of a fine frightens them away. Also, they don't seem to realize that we record IP addresses. A couple of times I've fired off letters to ISP of the vandals and spammers and after being contacted by the ISPs and my emails they normally cease. We have to fight them on a united front. :) - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:28, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

 * I did send his ISP an email. Hopefully, he won't becoming back after getting a call or an email from them. Plus, when I reverted his last edit on the main page he promised that was the "last of [his] careless edits." If not, maybe he next pay time I'm in the EU. I'll pay him a "Wikivoyage" hello. Ha ha ha (Evil laughter)! - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:48, 23 May 2006 (EDT)

Linz
Quote: "Those are the headers we use on pages throughout the site, and they're part of our Manual of style. Granted, they're a little unusual, but they're part of what makes Wikivoyage different from other travel guides, giving it a more active personality."

Who are "WE"? Are you talking for the whole of Wikipedia? Who decides the style? Who decides the Manual of Style?

A little unusual? They´re not English. Maybe I should have written, "Me eat, you eat... good..."

Does making verbs into commands (See, do, eat) give them a more "active personality"? What does that mean? Can words, or a web-page, have an active personality? Hmmm...

I changed the words because I think that Gerunds are important. "Eating", as in, "Eating in Linz", (which is what the article is about, after all) is grammatically correct.

Please don´t think this was written hastily, or nastily, but I hope you get my meaning.

andreasegde
 * I believe User:(WT-en) Andreasegde meant these words for User:(WT-en) TVerBeek - (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 18:47, 29 May 2006 (EDT)

Sorry, they were!

User:(WT-en) Andreasegde

Fisherman pic
Hi there,

unfortunately I do not have a written permission of the lady, so feel free to remove it. I will check that it gets removed from the articles.

Cheers, (WV-en) Felix - 05/June/2006, 15:35 GMT

Everest
Hi Bill, I have read your comments regarding Everest left on my discussion page, and have accordingly added info on the respect section - though not much as explaining in detail would constitute writing an article on Tibetan Buddhist beliefs. Also, I have not added any info regarding photography. Sherpas are used to tourists and generally do mind being the subject of an enthusiastic traveler. In fact, many of them enjoy it - so there are no specific guidelines. Likewise, outside of Tengboche, barring common sense, the monasteries also do not have rules about photography. As for haggling, I have started a section on 'buy' and added a comment there. Hope the additional info is satisfactory, but if you have further ideas, please let me know. Thanks. (WT-en) WindHorse 28 June 06

Pink slip
Sorry mate, I hate to do this to ya, but your position as self-nominated keeper of the Discover has been made redundant; you've been unceremoniously replaced by (WT-en) cheap bot labor from South-East Asia. Sniff. (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:57, 11 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Thanks for filling in while Flak-o-bot was AWOL again... (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:01, 23 September 2006 (EDT)

DotM schedule
Hi

''Thanks for your interest in Project:Destination of the Month candidates, but two comments: First, there is no policy against consecutive DotMs from a continent, or even a country. Second, before making a change like you just made, please try to obtain consensus via discussion. There are places in the text of the article that invite discussion of nominees, order, etc.; by using those you may be able to generate consensus that your proposed changes should be made. (Incidentally, if you register a username, conversations like this get easier.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 00:14, 27 July 2006 (EDT)''

Sorry for the confusion. I never thought there was, nor suggested there might be or ought to be, a policy against consecutive DotMs from a continent or country.

Seeking further consensus seemed pointless as the changes were each in line with all the existing consensus (including your own "No objections" and "early boreal winter" comments).

Pattaya (move from November to December):
 * "looks like a winter tourist place"
 * "a good winter/spring destination"
 * "Should it possibly be scheduled for a later month like December or January as it seems to be a get-away-from-the-cold-destination?"
 * "No objections, as long as something satisfactory for November can be found. That's why there's a question mark there ... -- Bill-on-the-Hill 09:45, 18 May 2006 (EDT)"
 * "A good Early winter spot Oct-Dec. would be good choices"
 * "It might be scheduled for January or February"

La Paz (Bolivia) (move from December to November):
 * "Suggested for some time in early boreal winter. -- Bill-on-the-Hill 10:36, 2 July 2006 (EDT)"

Taipei (move from January to February):
 * "Spring would be the best time to feature this, although winter should also be OK."

~ 125.24.16.84 02:29, 27 July 2006 (EDT)

Iraq reversion
Hi Bill - what was the problem with this edit to the Iraq article? The guy seems to be trying to make edits that he sees as helpful, and aside from some questionable parentheses that one didn't seem too bad. -- (WT-en) Ryan 16:45, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Fair enough. The guy does seem to be trying, and I just didn't want him to feel like every single thing he does gets removed.  That said, you're very right about how appropriate it is to be giving advice on "preferred weapons" for use in Iraq.  -- (WT-en) Ryan 17:48, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

Arriving in Los Angeles
So, Jack from wikiHow sent me an email telling me that this article is being deleted:

 * http://www.wikihow.com/Arrive-in-Los-Angeles-Via-I-40-from-New-Mexico

He wondered if there was anything there we could use or include. I thought we might be able to fit it into an itinerary, but you might have a better perspective than I do. Any feelings? --(WT-en) Evan 12:14, 6 August 2006 (EDT)

Conceirge
I like the idea too and I have an offline version at home of what it could look like. My offline version is based on Wikipedia's reference desk and I see it as a fusion of "Docents" for a particular topic/city, but where people who don't noticed the Docent bar can ask questions. I also mentioned to Evan and Maj earlier about enlisting the help of tourist offices and/or chamber of commereces to dedicate a volunteer to help us out especially on huge cities like London, Paris, or NYC. If they had one person check out questions every hour or so and answered certain questions it would be hugely beneficial for the Wikivoyager and the destination, plus we get the bonus of traffic. Would you look over this proposal I had a few months ago and tell me if you think it could be implemented "Conceirge?" After a litte bit I had talked myself out of the idea, but since I saw your comments I've kind of rekindled my interest. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 15:45, 6 August 2006 (EDT)
 * I agree with you. I've talked myself out of the idea again.  Anyhow, do you picture it something like - ask a question about Western Europe and we'll get you an answer?  I also find it to be potential medium/forum for the press to ask for interviews from Wikivoyagers.  -- (WT-en) Sapphire 00:38, 10 August 2006 (EDT)

 * P.S. I'm indifferent to the Snake safety article, now. I do think we should use something like Colin's idea, though.  I've been thinking that snakes are so universal that it may be useful to any traveller to any continent (except Antartica) to create this article.  However, for lions and goats I think a generalized article should suffice.  Oh and if someone wants to know safety precautions for bears I think we could refer them to the Colbert Report.  Plus if we can convince one person to watch the Colbert Report we can ensure Republican control forever! (Insert evil laugh) -- (WT-en) Sapphire 00:38, 10 August 2006 (EDT)

Northern New Mexico Hotels
I had to go back and check some credit card receipts, and it turns out I splurged and spent $40 at the Econo Lodge, but I can vouch for the fact that in April 2005 there were quite a few hotels on I-40 west of Gallup that were advertising rooms for $20 a night - with taxes I suppose the final cost might have been $30. As to bedbugs and bloodstains, since I stayed at the Econo Lodge I'll have to take your word for it ;) -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:41, 13 August 2006 (EDT)

Hi Bill,

I noticed your great contributions to Wikivoyage and also how you are such an avid traveler. I just wanted to invite you to a new free travel planning website at TripTie.com. It's very web 2.0 where people can edit all the information yet very different from Wikivoyage in the sense that the website serves as a trip planning program that allows users to remix, customize and edit itineraries, item descriptions and photos. We are currently in beta right now, but you can go to the website and invite yourself into the beta, or email me at karl@triptie.com and I will be happy to send you an invitation. I would love to know what you think of our website.

Thanks so much, Karl Sung TripTie.com Founding Partner & Manager

Hot springs and Spas
Thanks for the explanation. Just did a fast history on one of the two and didn't see you're involvement or would certainly have climbed the hill to ask you. Always seems worth the climb. (WT-en) OldPine 16:58, 22 September 2006 (EDT)

Protecting pages
Bill, I'd rather you not protect the page simply because I'd rather an admin who has not reverted any changes be the one to protect a page so no one can be accused of protecting a page in order to promote his/her own agenda. I know you don't have an agenda, but I'd much rather be the one to protect this page if it comes to it. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 16:09, 1 October 2006 (EDT)

Pole of Cold
Thanks for taking it on Bill. I kind of figured it might make an article, but the copyvio was not good. Again thanks! -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 17:42, 15 October 2006 (EDT)

R66
I've finally go to work on the map for Route 66 can you clarify some things for me? Where exactly should I make the end point? Do you know if you're following the Route from Albuquerque to SoCal do you take I-15 and if so do you actually go through San Bernardino? -- Sapphire

 * The directions on the article were bugging me out a little, but I think I got the gist of it. How does this look.  I'll have to do some finishing touches, but it should suffice for now. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 23:45, 1 November 2006 (EST)

Shared and NM
The Categories on Shared were created by Evan's (WT-shared) User:LOCODEbot, which using information provided by the United Nations created categories on Shared. The lat/long coordinates are strange and you may want to point that out to Evan. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 14:37, 3 December 2006 (EST)

LOCODEbot
Bill, if you're still online, could you read and comment on wts:User talk:(WT-shared) LOCODEbot? I hope I've addressed your concerns, and if so, I'd like to start the bot back up again. Thanks. --(WT-en) Evan 19:43, 3 December 2006 (EST)

WikiOutdoors
Bill, as someone who's done a lot of park articles for Wikivoyage, what is your feeling about Project:Cooperating with WikiOutdoors? --(WT-en) Evan 20:01, 4 December 2006 (EST)

Little havana

 * Your solution seems better. I was looking for a quick way of highlighting this misplaced article, since I didn't have time to deal with it in detail. -- (WT-en) Jonboy 09:17, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Autopatrol
Hey, Bill. So, I think you might have seen the new recent changes patrol feature. It's helpful if admins set their preferences so that their own edits are automatically marked as patrolled. If you feel comfortable with that, you can find it on the "edit" tab. --(WT-en) Evan 22:20, 16 December 2006 (EST)
 * Done. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 01:21, 17 December 2006 (EST)

Further steps on User:(WT-en) DenisYurkin/Paper travel guides
Bill, thank you for advocacy on Paper Guides on VFD discussion. I (WT-en) saved the page in my user namespace adding a highlighted box indicating its status. As for its future: Thank you again. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 17:41, 20 December 2006 (EST)
 * what do you think of adding a section to the end of Project:Requests for comment with a title like "Guilty-until-proven-innocent", where we can attrach more enthusiasts to the topic?
 * will it comply to Wikivoyage rules if I invite people in the Project:Travellers' pub to join the discussion taking place in User talk subpage?
 * overall, is it "legal" to keep and develop an article that does not comply to official rules? Do we have any similar precedents?

Birthday?

Bill, I'm guessing from the change of age on your user page that you had a birthday recently. Is that right? If so, enjoy this cake, and have a happy one! --(WT-en) Evan 10:57, 24 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/2007

See also User talk:(WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill/2005 and User talk:(WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill/2006 for archived talk ...

Bishnupur pics
Thanks. I did not think the pics to be bright enough for Wikishared but now that you want it I will do it on some other day, but don't worry. I will remember. I will upload a few more pictures in the nexr few days for some other pages. I have earlier uploaded Scotland pics for Wikishared. -- (WT-en) P.K.Niyogi 10:31, 30 December 2006 (EST)

Project:Discover criteria
copied from User talk:203.144.143.10

Thanks for your interest in keeping Project:Discover high-quality, but I think you may have gone too far. Note that the guidance says that referenced articles "should" have a status of Usable or above, not that they must have such status. Because the list of trivia there is not very long, we are being forced to use some material from Outline articles to avoid running out of stuff. I wish it weren't so, but since it is, I've reverted your changes. (Incidentally, I echo Ryan's entreaty to create an account.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 09:38, 3 January 2007 (EST)

 * As in another case I've had edits reverted for pretty much the exact opposite reason, I've clarified the Project:Discover section - hope the wording is acceptable to all. Apologies for making it necessary to revert, thanks for taking the time to explain. ~ 203.144.143.10 11:14, 3 January 2007 (EST)

 * That wording looks like an improvement to me. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 11:41, 3 January 2007 (EST)

Admin nomination
I've nominated User:(WT-en) Cacahuate to become an admin; please comment on Project:administrator nominations when you have some time. --(WT-en) Evan 01:25, 6 January 2007 (EST)
 * Hi Bill - As this heading is applicable, I'll add my reply to your invitation regarding the admin post here. Thanks for your kind words. However, I still feel that I'd prefer to just plod along as a casual visiting-editor adding info to articles about places that I am familiar with. Also, at the moment I have some free time to play around on the computer. Later this Spring and also later in the year I may not even have access to the web, so there will be a long periods of inactivity. So, I again reiterate my original response, though I appreciate your invitation to become a more committed member of the WT community. Take it easy. (WT-en) WindHorse 00:31, 10 January 2007 (EST)

Island Peak edits
''There was nothing at all wrong with your edits that I rolled back. I simply screwed up -- meant to click the "Patrolled" button and clicked the wrong button (one that we admins have) to do a revert. Sorry about that. I've undone the damage I did. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 10:42, 13 January 2007 (EST)''

 * No problem and no harm done - but I appreciate you letting me know. (WT-en) WindHorse 10:51, 13 January 2007 (EST)

Project:Votes_for_deletion
I saw your request for me to explain my suspicions about this image. I explain my suspicions tomorrow. It's been about over a month since I requested information about the image so I'll have to do a little more detective work as to what my initial objections were. I do remember seeing the image being used in some very unusual, and somewhat suspect editing. If I recall correctly, I deleted the image from several pages because it's supposedly an image of Bophut Beach, but was on pages that were in no way connected to Bophut Beach. Anyhow, I'll see what I can come up with and get back to you. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 00:24, 14 January 2007 (EST)

Well, someone's been adding this random photo to random pages again. See Talk:Chinese phrasebook - Traditional and South-western provinces (Papua New Guinea). I'd delete these pages, but I'll keep them around so you can look at them. This is similar to what I encountered a while back, but it was on all kinds of other pages. Anyhow, I'll give you a more definitive answer later. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 00:29, 14 January 2007 (EST)

 * Now, that I've taken a closer look I may be paranoid about a user who accidentally adds the image to pages by typing "example" a lot. Anyhow, I've sent an email off to the user and a Google search leads me to believe that the user did spend upwards of 11 years in Thailand and may have recently moved to the UK so hopefully if these are the same persons he'll be able to afford a few minutes to respond. -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 00:56, 14 January 2007 (EST)

Stars in the making
Hey Bill! Any further thoughts on the discussion you started and that I ran away with? (WT-en) Cacahuate 09:20, 19 January 2007 (EST)

RE:Hiking in South Africa
Used to hike and camp quite a bit when I was younger, but priorities change and currently I don't really have a lot of time for that.

I've have a look at wikioutdoors, but since I have not actually hike the trails (or at least not done so lately) I don't think I am the best person to supply detailed information on them; the best I would be able to supply is consolidations of other people's reviews. I'm not sure I would like to go into that level of detail anyway; I'd rather put my efforts into growing and improving articles under South Africa on wikivoyage.

Linking with wikioutdoors seems like a good idea and once I have more information on wikiitravel, I will definitely look at what content can be linked between the two to improve both wikis. (WT-en) NJR_ZA 02:45, 20 January 2007 (EST)

JensAndMarian Discussion
I've moved the JensAndMarian discussion to Project:Copyleft since ultimately the issue was whether or not someone could revoke the CC-SA license. Hopefully that seems like a reasonable place to archive it, but as always feel free to revert if you think terms of use is more appropriate. -- (WT-en) Ryan 10:42, 2 February 2007 (EST)

Cambridge for DoTM
Bill. I've asked a couple of questions about you (opposition) to Cambridge as DOTM. I would be grateful for your feedback. -- (WT-en) DanielC 14:35, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Re: Regions in New Mexico
Hey there Bill, I moved them to comply with anc/regions, and as you point out, forgot to deal with the redirect links... I'll get on that now, sorry for the mess :)  (WT-en) - Cacahuate 12:03, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * Alright, think I got them all (WT-en) - Cacahuate 14:40, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * I double checked a lot of the ones that I was correcting and they seemed to be displaying correctly, which ones aren't? Just curious so I'm aware of the glitches and can avoid/fix in the future... (WT-en) - Cacahuate 17:53, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * Ah, I see what you mean... I've come across that before, why don't they display and how can it be fixed? I see you making tiny changes to the articles, are you doing something in addition to that that fixes it? Just curious for future... (WT-en) - Cacahuate 18:01, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * Every article that I touched I fixed the isin on, I think... something else of note, I was just looking at Taos, which had broken navigation, and I purge the cache for the page and then the breadcrumb worked correctly... (WT-en) - Cacahuate 18:14, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * So actually this is now tying into the other discussion about orphaned pages... I fixed all of the pages that were linked to from the region articles, but anything that wasn't I would have no way of finding... is there a way to search by isIn? [IsIn=North (New Mexico)]? (WT-en) - Cacahuate 18:22, 24 February 2007 (EST)

 * Also I just went through all the other regions and corrected the ones I missed, just so you don't do double work... during the first round I was going from "what links here" on the region pages, which is why I missed some... still curious though, is there a way to search by "isIn" to find orphaned pages? (WT-en) - Cacahuate 18:48, 24 February 2007 (EST)

Los Alamos
Los Alamos? No wonder you think NM is higher in elevation than the rest of the Southwest. I can't believe that you reverted my edits--especially considering that the language in the earlier version was informal and not appropriate (who the hell calls it the "Rio" other than a reformed Texan?). Ph.D.? I can't bear to imagine the quality of your dissertation. If your reversion of my edits was out of spite resulting from my prior difficulties with you and your cronies, then I can only conclude that your refusal to accept obvious improvements to a compromised article is the product of imbecilic thought on your part. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 76.18.80.24 (talk • contribs)

 * I'll ignore the childish insults and stick with the facts. New Mexico has the fourth highest average elevation of any of the United States, behind Colorado, Wyoming and Utah, in that order; an almanac (for example the on-line netstate.com) will confirm this.  It's therefore higher on average than "most of" the other Southwest states, i.e., Arizona and Nevada.  Walk around any of the communities on the Rio Grande and you'll hear people refer to the "Rio" with complete confidence that their meaning will be understood.  (Many of those people, btw, would be glad to take a large chunk out of you with a sharp object if you call them "Texans.")  All of this just in case anyone is reading who isn't suffering from the same peculiar mental pathology as whoever wrote the rant in the previous paragraph. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 19:32, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Thanks
Hi Bill - thanks for catching my mistaken attempt to create Project:Votes for deletion/March 2007. I'm not sure what happened there, but I'll go back and read Project:How to start a new page a few times to make sure it doesn't happen again. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:34, 4 March 2007 (EST)

Job
It sounds like you have an awesome job. Thanks for keeping me safe! (What's Iran up to?) Also, do you have a license to kill? -- (WT-en) Sapphire ��� (Talk) • 05:07, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

Arizona
If you have any input on Arizona's regions, check out Talk:Arizona. Thanks! -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 08:48, 19 April 2007 (EDT)

Cloudcroft
A new user just created an article for Cloudcroft NM which opened with a few obviously untrue statements about the place (e.g. second largest city in the state) which I've removed. The rest of it looks fairly believable, but I figure a New Mexican might recognize any other fibs more readily than I would. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 09:25, 7 May 2007 (EDT)

Mount Donna Buang
Ah, OK. I'll treat those with a bit more care in the future then. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 11:55, 8 May 2007 (EDT)

RE; Forest way
Hi, thanks for your 'talk' I'm gonna try adn get sustrans, the Uk cycle path building people to give me some information - so I could try and write a South East England Cyclepath page; it could be either an intinery, a travel topic or a simple article. there are loads of paths so people could travel as 'cycletourists'..... I don't really know, I'll write it and then see what other wikitraellers decide would be good

Jack

Admin needed
Hi, Bill. Wanted to advise that there are some new pages that are probably speedy deletes.. not sure how you guys patrol this. See Special:Contributions/123.112.100.111 -thanks (WT-en) OldPine 21:55, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

 * Got 'em. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 22:07, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

New search engine
I just wanted to give a heads-up: we're testing a new search engine on review (http://wikivoyage.org/review/Special:Search). It's the one that Wikipedia and other Wikimedia projects use. It's nothing fancy, but it's more accurate and faster than the default MediaWiki search. Could you give it a couple of sample searches and give your feedback on wts:WtTech:Lucene search? I think we want to roll it out in the next week or so, and it'd be good to make sure it's working OK. --(WT-en) Evan 12:51, 12 June 2007 (EDT)

Soviet Georgia
Hi Bill, just out of curiosity—how did you wind up in Soviet Georgia? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:41, 15 June 2007 (EDT)

Things to do in Uppsala when you're dead
Hi Bill, I added some entries to the Uppsala article's "Do" section. Do you think it would be OK to upgrade it to Guide again? (WT-en) Metaur 15:09, 1 August 2007 (EDT)

Hello again. Do you think that Uppsala is a guide now? What about Gothenburg? (WT-en) Metaur 18:30, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Boca Raton
I appreciate your response, and yes, I knew I could edit and remove, but since I am new here, but not new at a wiki, I wanted to make sure that this amount of advertising, whould be removed. I think that this amount of restaurants is 'overkill, and will delete and leave a few for lunch, dinner or a specialty food. The list looks like a telephone book, and has no place on a site like this. Now that I know, and I will read the link you sent me, I will start editing as many articles as I can find. While I am not a great traveler, I am a good editor and will both edit and add pictures as many areas that need it, as I can find and keep writing on Florida, my home town. (WT-en) Flowergirl 14:59, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

--- Thanks, I checked out the site you mentioned, and yes, I can see how great it looks. Will edit accordingly. (WT-en) Flowergirl 21:02, 4 August 2007 (EDT)

Bronzeville
Thanks! That one was mostly Peter's baby, but I did have the pleasure of calling the hotels for rates and descriptions. As far as I know, this is the only travel guide to Bronzeville, so most of the hotel owners were unaccustomed to describing their rooms over the phone. ("It's an ordinary room!" said one woman, and I thought about using that in the guide, but I couldn't figure out how to communicate her sense of bewilderment and vague indignance at the very question in print.) (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 21:38, 5 August 2007 (EDT)

New Mexico
Could you email me at cjensen@acm.org ? -- (WT-en) Colin 23:19, 18 August 2007 (EDT)

 * I'd also appreciate a way to contact you. I found your email once upon a time ago when I was looking at LANL's website, is it ok to email you using that email? -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 04:36, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

Redundancy
Bad news -- the robots are taking over again. (WT-en) Jpatokal 11:13, 11 September 2007 (EDT)

Blacklist
Nothing wrong with that blacklist you added, but I have changed it to be more generic so the whole domain is blacklisted. if you go to www.(thedomain) you will see why. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 02:02, 13 October 2007 (EDT)

Vandalism
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I thought I was the only one who felt that way. Yet another time I find your thinking to be well-reasoned and sage (no Southwest reference intended). For me, watching you think is one of the best things about WT. -- (WT-en) OldPine 11:56, 19 October 2007 (EDT)

Sligo
Bill, Thanks for upgrading the Sligo article to Guide status. I know no-one "owns" an article, but it is nice to see one of your babies getting rewarded! Regarding your tips/recommendations for improvements, I've amended the "Eat" listings to show by price-range, and I'm having a look at some of the verbosity (isn't that a great word?!) I've thought about a map, and I'll think a bit more about it, although it looks like it'd take a bit of work. I'll maybe try it out though. I'll have a look at the vandalism policy conversation in more detail later, but sounds like something to be looked into in greater detail. Thanks again for your helpful comments. --(WT-en) The.Q 05:53, 22 October 2007 (EDT)

Brachiosaurus photo?
Funny you should ask! I was just looking for one and, sadly, there is only one photo available with appropriate licensing and it is not of very high quality. I've now uploaded it in case you would like to use it. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 17:26, 28 October 2007 (EDT)

Deleting pages question?
What does one do with a page like Vishal mundada? Do you just delete it or put it up for a vote?--(WT-en) Wandering 16:30, 5 November 2007 (EST)

Don't mean to dump these on you but I don't know where the speedy delete candidates should go and here are a couple of others. Manigango, Mufasa. If you think that this sort of thing will get caught sooner rather than later anyway, let me know and I'll ignore them!--(WT-en) Wandering 18:37, 6 November 2007 (EST)

Page Protection time format
Hi, Bill. I went to protect a page a couple times lately, but didn't know how to format the time in the expiration box. Did you find the answer to that and can we maybe post it on the page that comes up? -- (WT-en) OldPine 19:29, 25 November 2007 (EST)
 * Ah, OK, it says "Expiry", so I thought it was looking for an exact time such as "14:00 26 November 2007" or something. -- (WT-en) OldPine 22:34, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Gay travel
There should be a VFD tag on that page since there is a discussion on the VFD page. I was going to add it, but you've protected the page and I did not want to tamper with that. (WT-en) Pashley 20:00, 25 November 2007 (EST)

Edit War
Thanks! (WT-en) 2old 14:51, 27 November 2007 (EST)

Messy revert!
Itchy trigger finger! Not sure how that happened but, most likely, I wasn't paying attention. --(WT-en) Wandering 17:05, 2 December 2007 (EST)

Uh huh
Oh sure. One porn shot and all of a sudden the place is crawling with admins :) --(WT-en) OldPine 19:06, 13 December 2007 (EST)

Ummm...
Happy birthday!? Oh, and as they say in Poland: Wesołych Świąt Bożego Narodzenia (Merry Christmas)! -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 10:48, 24 December 2007 (EST)

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User talk:Bill-on-the-Hill/SFpix

Not for profit
First off, nice cathedral photo. Secondly, just to be clear, there is nothing in the CC-SA that prevents using content for profit. The only requirement is that credit be given, so if you agree with those terms you may want to remove the "not for profit" disclaimer, and if you disagree it would be best to remove the images. Also, now that it has a photo I've nominated Santa Fe for Destination of the Month. Great article. -- (WT-en) Ryan 21:32, 9 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Thanks for the license change! -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:39, 10 Dec 2005 (EST)

Playing art critic
The images that work best for me are Image:Kateri.jpg (nice composition, lighting & detail), Image:Museum Hill.jpg (interesting sky, and a very cool statue), and Image:St Francis Cathedral.jpg (horizon line is a bit crooked, but it's an awesome sky and a cool church). Image:Santuario (V).jpg (superseded by Image:Santa Fe Santuario.jpg on WT Shared -- BotH) is a very cool photograph with the trees, but unless that's a really famous church it may not work as well within a travel guide since it doesn't necessarily illustrate something that's uniquely Santa Fe. Image:Palace of Govs.jpg (superseded by Image:Santa Fe Palace of Govs.jpg on Wikivoyage Shared -- BotH) and Image:Museum Christmas.jpg illustrate a cool market, but it's not really clear from the pictures that it's a market.

They're all good shots, so any of them could work well in the article, but the three above are the ones that most jumped out at me. You might want to solicit feedback from (WT-en) Jpatokal as well, since he's a bit more of a professional photographer while I'm just a guy who schlepps a camera to cold places. -- (WT-en) Ryan 00:39, 10 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Thanks for the input. The Santuario is indeed a "famous" church, if not as famous (or ornate) as St. Francis, and the Museum Christmas shot is of the portico of a museum, not a market.  There's stuff in the main Santa Fe article that connects to all of these -- I think.  (May have to add a little on the museum; I'll check.)  Anybody else want to take a whack at this? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 00:55, 10 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * Sorry, my brain saw "locals selling items" and immediately went to market, even though the caption clearly said museum. In addition, if the church is being featured in the article (it's late and I'm too lazy to verify) then Image:Santuario (V).jpg would be a great illustration photo, otherwise I'd go with the photos that more obviously display architecture, art and other items that are uniquely Santa Fe. And again, thanks for the hard work on this (and other articles). -- (WT-en) Ryan 02:56, 10 Dec 2005 (EST)

Me professional? Har! I've been paid once and I thought it was just somebody pulling a practical joke on me until the bank transfer actually arrived.

Anyway, I also think the cathedral shot is the best for the front page, the horizon tilt isn't really noticeable and the unusual angle & sharp contrast make it interesting. I also like the adobo architecture pic, although it might be stronger if cropped into a square, and is perhaps more "New Mexico" than "Santa Fe". Museum Hill would also make a nice page filler pic. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:37, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)

 * LOL ... kinda like me and music. I've actually been paid twice for that; the first time to perform, the second time not to.

 * Anyway, based on various inputs, I've moved Kateri (who will become the first American Indian woman to be a saint of the Catholic church, if they ever get around to canonizing her -- she's already been beatified) to the frontispiece of the article, while St. Francis Cathedral and the Portal are at appropriate places within it. I'll also take your advice on cropping the adobe shot when I get a few minutes, and replace it (it's currently part of the New Mexico page as you suggested).  Thanks! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:34, 11 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Billposer

Hello Billposer! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Hacienda Pinilla Beach Resort and Residential Community
Per Project:Don't tout, we only allow businesses to be listed on one article. Since Pinilla wouldn't qualify for an article, I think it would be best to list it under the nearest town, Tamarindo. So I've left your entry alone on that page and removed it from the others. Also, for the main Costa Rica page, it's pushing it to plug the Pinilla Resort golf course alone, but if you're in the mood, it would be fine to make a quick list there of the most acclaimed golf courses in the country. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:12, 9 December 2008 (EST)

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(WT-en) Bindaastrekkers 03:51, 20 February 2009 (EST) Trekking destinations "To feel falling on the lap of Nature find yourself at Rottilkallu"

Rotti-kallu
Bilisare village, Sakleshpur Taluk Hassan district, Karnataka state INDIA Phone :Harsha 9986432225 / 9611322225

How to Reach From Bangalore:
Kms: 250 •	Take Bangalore -pune highway •	Take a left diversion to NH-48(Bangalore - Mangalore) @ Nelmanagala (1 hour from Bangalore) •	Continue in NH48 till Sakleshpur. (Via kunigal, Channarayapattana, Hassan) (220 Kms from Bangalore) •	3kms past Sakleshpur, take a right diversion from NH-48 @ anemahal towards Hanbal. •	Continue in the same road about 14 Kms to reach Hanbal (A small town) •	Take left diversion in Hanbal circle towards Devrundha •	Continue for 5kms. After crossing water streme take left turn (Magajhalli) (you can find our board on electric pole) come to dead end of that road for 6 Kms. Probably more than the beauty of the place we were going to visit what seemed to be more attractive for me(Yogesh) was the place of stay Harish Athrey had arranged in Rotti-Kallu. It was supposed to be a home stay in the midst of a huge estate though we all had our own apprehensions about how good it might be.

The very idea of staying in the midst of greenery gave rise to excitement. By the time we picked up everyone and hit the Bangalore- Hassan road it was 8PM in the night on Friday 24th, October 2008. We were traveling in a Tempo Traveler and the plan was to stop at Rudresh Home in Hassan and wait for 4 peoples coming from Mysore. We reached Hassan by 12.30 AM. Rajnikanth, Ajay, Shaibu and Vishal coming from Mysore joined us at 2.30AM at Hassan. We left Hassan at 3 AM and reached Saklespur at 4.30 AM.

The Resorts was around 25 KMS from the NH and road was pretty good. But last stretch of 3 KMS was bumpy and muddy with lot of pot holes. We reached the estate around 7.30 AM in the morning after traveling around 250 Kms from Bangalore.

Day 1:
The First glance of Rotti-kallu, created a homely environment. Our Accommodation was a Big Dormitory (with attached bath) portico and a huge front yard. By the time we played a couple rounds of Shuttle cock and Cricket, breakfast was ready! What else will make you happy than a idly/chutney/Chithranna /Tea breakfast!! We all proved our self that we live to eat.

We finished our breakfast and started playing Lagori....which was our best childhood game. Then we started playing Rugby ahhh!!! no words to say. Only with our under garments, fully drenched in soil, sand and water....was looking like a buffalo enjoying her bath in a clay pit......It was a totally different experience.

Then we started playing in the stream water for few minutes. Then we tried Tarzan swing, which reminded the thrills we were getting on the Columbus / Giant Wheel ride.

After Lunch We caught up the badly needed sleep for couple of hours. Just after sleep we were very happy to see a well lit camp fire adjacent to the Restaurant. Sat around the fire with Beer and Whisky cups and some chakkali/ Mixtures/Chips.

After a peg Mr.Vijay, the owner of Rottikallu started showing us few cards tricks which were amazing. Later Other Rottikallu staff like Harsha and Tilak also joined our party with few tricks and jokes. Harsha's trick with half filled whisky glass, was a shock to all of us. He managed to balance the glass on the table by slanting it 45˚.

After 3 or 4 pegs, Mr. Vijay took us to the Tree top house for last peg. What a good memory was that....holding a Whisky glass and sitting on a tree house...where you can here the sound of the stream passing nearby, feels like a person playing Ghazal and Jaltarang along with insects and birds sound.....Wow!!!! Dinner was ready and again it was a wonderful meal! Totally "To feel yourself falling on the lap of Nature find yourself at Rottilkallu"

Day 2 :
We got up early at 7 AM. The plan was to go for stream trekking with guide Tilak. After playing shuttle cock for an hour we had bath and finished the breakfast. We started trekking at 9.30 AM from Rottikallu. All of us were holding a stick for support and we trekked for an hour in the stream and then we started trekking on the man made trails. We trekked for 2 kms to reach the top, which was a beautiful view point. At this point we could see mountains called Saalugudda, Baalekolu, Haaluhola and kallugudda. It needs minimum 2 days time to trek all these places. From there it was only ½ km trekking to the Falls. This path was very wet and with lot of leeches. As per our Guide Mr. Tilak's instructions we moved very fast and did not stop any where until we reached the falls.

As we reached the falls we were shocked to see that lot of leeches had already climbed our legs. we had entered the leeches territory. We all removed our shoes and Tilak helped us to get rid of the leeches. He asked us to enter the falls because there will be less leeches near the falls. As usual leeches are very fond of Rajanikanth's blood and we could see him struggling to remove lot of leeches on his legs.

The leeches had diverted our attention from the falls for few minutes. Now when we looked at the beautiful falls, we were all happy. Soon in few minutes we were all under the falls. The falls was around 20 Ft and it was falling with a great force. We spent nearly an hour near the falls. Then we started trekking back to Rottikallu.

By the time we reached Rottikallu the time was 2 PM. So the total trek time was 4 Hrs. we were all hungry and again We all proved our self that we live to eat. After lunch we started playing cricket. It was 100 Rs betting match. Yogesh team(Yogesh, Lokesh, Harish, Sunil and Vishal) won the first match and Rajani's team(Rajanikanth, Shaibu, Dileep, Ajay and Harsha) won the second match.

The time was 4.30 PM and we were not in a mood to leave the place. Then we packed our luggages, had a cup of coffee and left to Bangalore. We had Dinner in Hassan and we reached Bangalore at around 12.20 PM.

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Yogesh P
''' Sr.Manager in Tulsiyaan Ideas Hobbies – Trekking, Adventuring, Photography and sharing my experiences in my website – www.bindaastrekkers.com

Waynad Trip and Meenmutty falls Trekking
We planned for 2 day trip to Waynad on 9th and 10th September 2006. Waynad, a district that is recognized all over for its hill-produce, is located much above sea level at the north Kerala's eastern frontier near the Sahya mountains. We planned for a 2 day trip to Waynad on 9th and 10th Sep 2006. The best place to stay is Kalpetta. To reach Kalpetta from Bangalore, drive to Mysore and take the Ooty road from Mysore till Gundlupet. You need to turn right at Gundlupet and take the Kozhikode road to reach Kalpetta. Kalpetta offers some decent accommodation and is a good place to stay for visiting all the places in Waynad. It is around 250km from Bangalore. We left Bangalore at 6.30 PM on 8th September 2006 and reached Kalpetta at 3.30 AM on 9th September 2006. I had booked rooms at PPS Tourist home in Kalpetta for 13 of us. The accommodation was very cheap. We slept for few hours and we were all ready at 8 AM. We had breakfast at the restaurant attached to PPS Tourist Home. PPS Tourist Home, 220-920. 203431 ppstouristhome@sify.com www.ppstouristhome.com

Day 1: We first visited Pookat lake. There were a lot of Tourists when we reached the lake. This freshwater lake is one of the most popular tourist spots of North Kerala. A long walk along the path that goes all round the lake is indeed tremendously relaxing. For children, there is a lovely park. Just next to the lake there is a well-maintained aquarium and also a green house and nursery. Boating facilities are also available. We hired 4 Pedal boats for 30 minutes. Boating was an enchanting experience. Our next destination was Meenmutty Falls. After visiting Pookat Lake, We took a drive on Kozhikode highway, then turned toward Meenmutty waterfall. Meenmutty waterfall is around 30km from Kalpetta. It is not for the easy going traveller and requires descending down a very steep slope to have a look at the fall. The climb back can be exhausting. The way to paradise is not easy. Same is the case with Meenmutty falls. It is around 3 kms from the Kozhikode highway. The first 1 Km path is muddy path and easy to walk. The remaining 2 kms is very steep and marshy. It is not suggested to trek in rainy season. But we, the Bindaas Trekkers planned to trek Meenmutty falls on 09-09-2006. We started our trek by around 3 pm after a nice lunch(time god without the coconut oil being used in the food). We applied lemon to our legs as a part of precaution against Leech; in spite of this some of us were still victims. The weather was quite encouraging when we started. Half way through the trekking there was a small stream. We stopped there to rest for a while and to click some snaps. We had almost completed the half way trekking, when it started raining. It was also getting darker because the path was very thick with tall trees. Sun rays were hardly reaching the floor. Now we stopped for a while and had a second thought of getting back. Many who turned back from MM Falls told us its very dangerous and steep. The rain started pouring very badly. In spite of all these difficulties, we managed to reach the falls by 4.30 PM and sight of the falls was worth taking risk. It was awesome. It was a big fall divided into 2 parts. We could not go very close to the falls because of the heavy rain. We were very happy with our decision to continue trekking in the rain. We spend some time near the falls and started trekking back. We were all completely wet and it was a great life time experience. Trekking back was also difficult and took us 1.30 Hrs to reach the Kozhikode Highway. We were back to the PPS Tourist Home at 7.30 PM. We were really very much tired and we caught up with a badly needed sleep for an hour and again gathered together in a room for boozing.

Day 2 :

Our second day’s plan was to visit Eddakal caves and Kuruva Island. We left the Hotel at 9.30 AM and reached the Eddakal caves at 10.30AM. It is located at a distance of 10 kilometers from Wayanad. To reach the caves we have to walk a distance of 2.5 KMS. 1 KM on road and another 1.5 KMS using steps. It took us 30 minutes to reach the cave. The Guide explained us about the place. He told us that the caves were formed out of three huge rocks, one resting on two of them thus, making a hollow space in between. The place was very cool. The Beauty of the nature was very scenic from the top and treat to eyes. The rock climbing using rope was a thrilling experience. It took us an hour to reach the place where we had parked the Tempo Tracks. It was around 2.30 PM. We then had lunch and moved towards Kuruva Island.

It is 40kms from Sulthan Bathery. This is a lovely island on the Kabini river. The relatively untouched island is slowly gaining popularity as tourist spot. The road is quite good and the last stretch of 4 KMS is very narrow. There were a lot of tea estates on the way. We reached the place at 4PM. We waited for the boat to cross the Kabini river. This boat can carry only 6-7 peoples at a time. So we divided our group into 2 and crossed the river. The island was a very quite place. We played some games there and spend sometime there. There was a small falls at 1 KM distance. We visited the falls and as it was getting darker we returned back soon, because the boat will not operate after 6PM. We crossed the river again and started traveling back to Bangalore.

Yogesh P Working as Sr. Manager in Tulsiyaan Hospitality Ideas Interested in Trekking. My website - www.bindaastrekkers.com

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Reason for deletion of your user page
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Stop substituting your entry for that of a competitor, if that's what you're doing
Your unexplained edits in the Hsinchu guide have been reverted. It should be obvious why it wouldn't be OK to substitute your listing for that of a competitor - again, if that's what you're doing - but if it isn't obvious, look at Project:Don't tout, specifically:

"Never remove competitors' listings from articles or edit them negatively. If there is a problem with a listing it can always be edited for accuracy, and if an establishment is truly vile it can be removed after being discussed on the article's talk page. Removing the listings of competing businesses without discussion is strongly frowned upon."

Since you haven't given any explanation for your actions, that's what it looks like you're doing. If, instead, La Tartinette Tapas Bar has closed, you need to indicate that in your "Summary," when you edit.

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 * Yes that was me..... apologies. I was working in 3 windows and mistakenly posted that to your user page. I removed it very quickly but my apologies nonetheless. Thanks for all the work you are doing. Cheers. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 14:19, 25 October 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bishop^

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To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 01:14, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

Edited user page; mostly just copied from Wikipedia page, taking out wikipedia templates.(WT-en) Bishop^ 10:45, 8 August 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bisok

Hello Bisok! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

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User talk:(WT-en) Bissellee

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. – (WT-en) cacahuate  talk 22:05, 18 April 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bittergirldotcom

Hi, Bittergirldotcom Welcome to Wikivoyage! You can find out more about Wikivoyage on the Project:About page. If you have any questions or comments about how Wikivoyage works, post a message at the travellers' pub. I'm looking forward to seeing your work, sounds like you've got some great info. -- (WT-en) Majnoona

Bittergirldotcom: I agree with Maj. I appreciate your contributions so far and I hope that you continue! -- (WT-en) Evan 18:10, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)

Where did you get the Berlin article from? It appears to be scanned in, as there are some scanos. -(WT-en) PierreAbbat

 * There's more info on Shannon's blog. She wrote most of her articles for a publication that never happened in 1999, and generously contributed them here. Probably some of the "scanos" are either typos or artifacts of my efforts to pull Berlin into a shape more like other Wikivoyage articles. --(WT-en) Evan 17:10, 4 Dec 2003 (PST)

 * Sounds good. But I don't see how to explain "figyptisches" except as a scano. -(WT-en) PierreAbbat

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User talk:(WT-en) Bitterroot01

Hello, Bitterroot01! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Great work on Actun Tunichil Muknal! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:24, 26 July 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bjackt

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:00, 6 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bjarlestam

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

By the way, thanks for your contributions to the Tokyo and Mougins articles. Also, please remember to inform the author and source of images you upload, as well as the copyright licence so we can be sure they're really suitable for publication here.

Cheers, (WT-en) Ricardo (Rmx) 22:10, 28 December 2006 (EST)

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Hey there, can you please select an appropriate license for your photos on their respective pages? They need to be licensed as CC by SA 1.0 to be compatible with Wikivoyage, otherwise they will soon be deleted... also, if you can instead upload them to the Wikivoyage Shared site then they'll be available to all of the other WT language versions as well... Thanks for your contributions! (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 20:47, 8 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bjerre

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Majnoona 09:03, 22 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bjorkrules

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Hello, Bjorkrules! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page.

If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 03:50, 7 December 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bjorn.ahlin

Hello Bjorn.ahlin! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) AHeneen 18:55, 5 December 2008 (EST)

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