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Maryland articles
I wanted to compliment you on all the excellent work you have been doing on Maryland destination guides! I have wanted to get Maryland up to snuff for a Destination of the Month nomination, and have highlighted what I think needs to be done at the Project:Maryland Expedition. I'm working on Baltimore, and expect I can push it to guide status without too much trouble, but I don't know as much about Annapolis. If you are interested in the expedition, please sign up. If not, no worries—just keep up the good work! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:11, 4 February 2012 (EST)

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Welcome to Wikivoyage. Following your recent edits in Agra, please take a moment to read the introductory page for business owners and our guidelines on Project:External links. Thanks --(WT-en) inas 02:26, 13 July 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Traveling2u

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Thanks for adding the whitewater rafting info to Malaysia. It's a little too specialist for the main page, but makes an excellent travel topic, and I've created a Whitewater rafting in Malaysia page for it — why not add some more info? (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:02, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

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Please see Wikivoyage's guidelines for hotel marketers. In particular, note that listings for individual businesses should go in the village articles, not the Santorini article, and listing description should contain useful information rather than promotional language. If you have questions please ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:19, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

Is this a particular issue that concerns only the hotels i work for or it is just the general rule? I have done all the corrections but it would be nice if you would make the same points to the other hoteliers as well. THANK YOU

 * General rule. Did you read the guidelines? If not, read them. And if you did read them and are noticing examples of violations of Wikivoyage guidelines by other posters, remember that everyone can edit here, so just make the edits yourself, and specify the reasons in the editing "Summary." Thanks a lot. All the best, (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 20:03, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

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Please try and avoid testing your work on Project:How to start a new page as it is one of the most important pages for new users to read. I have removed the text you put there. Please note that copying text from http://www.travelingindonesia.co.cc would be a violation of copyright, unless you have permission. We do things a bit differently here, so to avoid disappointment and before you start editing Indonesia, please read our policies and guidelines. - (WT-en) Huttite 08:53, 5 February 2009 (EST)

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 * All contributions must be your own original work or work that is explicitly licensed under a CC-BY-SA compatible license.  - (WT-en) Huttite 09:10, 5 February 2009 (EST)

Traveling Indonesia
link title Indonesia is a tropical country, and the climate is fairly even all year round. There is no such thing as an Autumn or Winter, the year being roughly divided into two distinct seasons, 'wet' and 'dry'.

The East Monsoon, from June to September brings dry weather while the West Monsoon, from December to March, brings rain. The transitional period between these two seasons alternates between gorgeous sun-filled days and occasional thunderstorms.

Even in the midst of the wet season temperatures range from 21 Tropicaldegrees (70'F) to 33 degrees Celcius (90 'F), except at higher altitudes which can be much cooler. The heaviest rainfalls are usually recorded in December and January. Average humidity is generally between 75% and 100%.

Indonesia is blessed with a rich and diverse mix of traditional cultures and art forms. The basic principles which guide life across this colorful tapestry of life-styles include the concepts mutual assistance or "gotong royong" Bali dancerand communal meetings and gatherings or "musyawarah" to arrive at a consensus or "mufakat". Derived from the traditions of agriculturally based rural life, this system is still very much in use in community life throughout the country. Social life, as well as rites of passage, are stepped in ancient traditions and customs, or "adat" laws, which differ from area to area. "Adat" laws have a binding impact on Indonesia life and have been instrumental in maintaining equal rights for women in the community. Religious influences on communal life vary from island to island and village to village, depending on local history.

Art forms in Indonesia are not only derived from folklore, as in many other parts of the world. Many were developed in the courts of former kingdoms, as in Bali, where they are integral elements of religious ceremonies. The famous dance dramas of Java and Bali are derived from Hindu mythology and often feature fragments from the Ramayana and Mahabharata Hindu epics.

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Thank you for contributing Achziv, but where in the world is it? It helps to describe where a place is within its own article. - (WT-en) Huttite 19:30, 21 November 2009 (EST)

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Welcome
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Please read Project:Don't tout - changing a warning about a business to a positive review is a very, very serious violation of Wikivoyage etiquette. Disucss on Talk:Huaraz if you feel that the review is unfair, but do NOT change the listing without first gaining consensus. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 17:50, 21 November 2009 (EST)

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Hi! Please don't tout, see wbo and tour. (WT-en) jan 08:34, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

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Welcome
Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a minute to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit more pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 08:28, 3 August 2006 (EDT)

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Great work
I've never been to North Algona Wilberforce, but I can recognize great work when I see it. Much respect to you.

All the best, (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 02:11, 23 April 2011 (EDT)

 * Yes Travellight, nice work and I also hope you continue to have an involvement here. I have made some very minor edits to the North Algona Wilberforce article. Not that there was anything really out of order I just applied some standardised formatting ie: removed some un-required word spaces, standardised the tel number format across the article-add +1 IDD prefix, applied AM/PM rather then am/pm, hr instead of hrs and did a minor copy edit to one of the listings to (hopefully) improve the clarity, I also fine tuned some line breaks, removing some and adding others. I must agree with the comments made by (WT-en) Ikan Kekek and I also encourage you to keep on editing here. I noted that you are in Kota Kinabalu at present. I edit that article frequently and would certainly be most encouraged if you make some improvements to it based upon your visit and own perceptions there. If ever in doubt about anything just go ahead and ask (WT-en) Ikan Kekek or myself, or any of the other regular editors here. If curious as to the formatting I applied to your edits have a look over the article and links at Project:Manual of style and you will find some detail there. It is of course important to present stuff in a standardised format but the priority here at WT is good content addition to the articles so focus on that for now as you have been and let others tidy up any small problems until you become more familiar with more arcane formatting issues. Rest assured you are not making any major errors in that regard.  Great work Travellight and happy travels -- (WT-en) felix 01:23, 24 April 2011 (EDT)

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Nice work on Warren. I hope you stick around to do some more work on it—I assume you are a local, and it would be nice to see the article get filled out! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:54, 18 July 2009 (EDT)

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Welcome
Please read Project:Don't tout - using Wikivoyage for advertising purposes is highly discouraged. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 22:07, 9 May 2010 (EDT)

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Tours
Please see our guidelines on Tour listings. Based on the offerings on your web site it appears that your company simply sells berths on existing Antarctica trips. If you are actually chartering these ships and putting staff on board please clarify, otherwise your listings are unfortunately not appropriate for our guides. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:32, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Ryan,

 * Thanks for your quick reply--as you may have seen, I tried to add our company to the Antarctica page once before but never heard back as to why it was rejected.

 * We do both--charter ships and act as a specialty travel agent booking into other company's cruises. As an agent, we ONLY book Antarctica and Arctic cruise so we are not like a general travel agent. That's part of why I thought we would be able to be listed.  Currently we have two cruises on the TravelWild website that are charters run by our parent company, Joseph Van Os Photo Safaris.  On these, we charter the ship, staff it and run our own program/itinerary. You can see these trips at:

 * http://www.travelwild.com/WildlifeLandscapesofAntarcticaAPhotographyCruiseoftheAntarcticPeninsula/10276/TourPage.aspx
 * http://www.travelwild.com/UltimateAntarcticaPhotographyCruise/10332/TourPage.aspx

 * We have also offered numerous Spitsbergen cruises where we've chartered the ship, staffed it and ran our own itinerary. We will be doing this again in 2012.

 * Considering that we both charter and act as a specialty polar cruise company--rather than a general service travel agent--I hope you will agree to list us on Wikivoyage.

 * Thanks for your consideration.

 * Rick Vanselow
 * Travelman3

 * Typically if you click on the "history" tab of an article, most editors will leave a note explaining the reason the first time an edit is removed. See http://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Antarctica&action=history for the Antarctica article's history - your original edit was removed on September 8 at 9:45 with a note explaining the reason.

 * I'm familiar with Van Os Tours, so if you add a listing I'd suggest using them and their web site in the listing instead of travelwild - based on http://www.photosafaris.com/photography-trips-2010/antarctica-photo-tour/ it's clear that John Shaw & friends are leading the trip, but referring directly to your site, however, will almost certainly cause the listing to eventually be removed since your business appears to be primarily that of a reseller and Wikivoyage has had real problems with travel agencies abusing the site, resulting in the guidelines in the Tour policy to eliminate resellers. If you feel that changes are needed to that policy feel free to comment on the Project:Activity listings discussion page, but be sure to read the existing discussions on that page first. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:14, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Ryan,

Since this is a page about Antarctica travel--and not photography tours--and TravelWild's business is 85% selling Antarctica cruises (again, we specialize in polar cruise--it makes more sense to us, to you and to your website visitors that TravelWild be listed rather than Photo Safaris. The Antarctica tours offered by Photo Safaris is one of about 40 photo tours Photo Safaris offers each year and so that company is not about Antarctica cruises--it's about photography tours--whereas TravelWild's is primarily about Antarctica cruises.  It appears that other tour companies are listed because they market trips to Antarctica.  That's what TravelWild does as well. We don't sell air, Caribbean cruises, resorts, etc.--just polar cruises and most of that is to Antarctica.

I guess I'll have to appeal it but this is both frustrating and a process that seems very unfair--not to mention time consuming to simply get listed for doing the same thing other companies do--selling Antarctica cruises.

Thanks for your time.

Rick

 * Before writing anything more, I apologize for a rant that is directed not specifically at you, but at the hundreds of companies trying to use Wikivoyage as a tool for self-promotion. Project:Goals and non-goals has been very clear since the site was first launched that this site is devoted to producing quality travel guides, not to advertise businesses.  We fully recognize that there is some synergy that exists between business owners and travel writers, but those companies that simply show up, plaster links to their company in several articles, and then disappear are of no benefit whatsoever.  Allowing such contributions without any limits leads to spammy, useless articles that are of no use to anyone - it happened in the past, and that's why the current policies exist.  It's unfortunate that companies feel it is "difficult" to advertise here, but that's not what this site is for, and to be bluntly honest most of the volunteers that spend countless hours trying to write decent guides would be ecstatic if those whose only interest in this site is to use it as a promotional tool would go away. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:39, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Ryan,

Thanks again for your reply.

I don’t see anything in your guidelines that would preclude us from adding our company to the list. As you know, there is no great benefit to us being listed as I doubt we will see much click-through traffic and there is zero SEO benefit. Really it’s just a matter of fair versus unfair at this point and adding to the article. We'd be glad to add more information to it. Whether you are aware of it or not, we’ve been going to Antarctica and sending people—on both our own, chartered itineraries and those of others—for as long as there’s been consumer travel to the continent and we know as much about Antarctica cruising as any company listed.

It is disingenous for Wikivoyage to pick and choose who gets listed and state that it’s based on your stated guidelines/policy--clearly it is not. Even your explanation that we are not getting a listing because we, “simply sells berths on existing Antarctica trips” would mean that both Intrepid Travel and Rockjumper should not be listed, though they are. I think they should be listed. And I think TravelWild should be listed as well.

I think I’ve taken enough of both of our time on this. I’ll just move on.

Rick

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Hello, Travelmania! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Hi! I have seen that you changed a bit the naming for Biel. We encourage bold moves but have a look at our policies too so your edits are in line with our goals. Merci (WT-en) jan 11:30, 7 April 2010 (EDT)

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 * Well done for starting the Chi Phat article.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:00, 7 June 2011 (EDT)

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Hello Travelmuchly! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Travel Nepal

Hello, Travel Nepal! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Hello, Travelodgeireland! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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 * When you place a listing for one of your hotels please include an informative description of the property. A price range is good as well. There are places for each of these in the sleep listing template. The key thing to remember is information, not advertising. Here are some examples of good informative hotel listings:

 *  2,000 guest rooms in two towers, a riverfront location, and what the management claims is the largest freestanding bar in the U.S. It's a favorite for convention groups, and is connected via covered walkways to the Illinois Center, which is a major business complex.

 * A real traditional bed and breakfast experience staying in an old family run house in Hampstead Village. A converted Victorian detached house furnished in the period style. Easy five minute walk to Hampstead Heath and the main local shops and cafes.

 * This business hotel decorated in modern Mediterranean style is located at the starting end of Orchard Road, next to Forum Galleria. It is also within walking distance to the Botanic Garden and embassy district in Tanglin.

 * I hope that is helpful and please do place your listings in the appropriate city articles. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 21:18, 29 January 2010 (EST)

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Hey Willy, how's it hanging? You might like to know that Evan's added this new nifty [undo] button, which means reverting your moves takes one (1) click now. Sniff. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:44, 1 Nov 2005 (EST)

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 * Thanks for all of the great contributions you've been making lately - much appreciated! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:11, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

Bangkok Transport Maps
Looks like an interesting merge of both maps. However, these waterway systems are not integrated at all, while one map might give the impression of a single transport system. Also, a lot of white space now appears on the map. The PNG issue is indeed a known Wikivoyage issue. The way to solve it is by decreasing the size of the PNG file. --(WT-en) Globe-trotter 11:01, 12 July 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Travelrod

Please see Project:Don't tout - contributions from business owners are welcome, but listings that read like advertisements or that use the first person will generally be removed. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 11:04, 6 October 2010 (EDT)

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Thanks for your contributions to Tucson! That article is shaping up nicely. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 18:53, 8 June 2009 (EDT)

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Hello, TravelStoreMaker.com! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Hi! Thank you for the registration. Please sign entries on talk pages (not within articles) with ~. (WT-en) jan 12:32, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

OK Jan, thank you! (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 12:50, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

 * Please have a look at Project:Don't tout and Project:Accomodation listings. And edit such as this one is inappropriate - you are changing a listing into market-ese, something we definitely don't want on Wikivoyage.  Maybe this guideline will help you - if you are writing something that you wouldn't expect to read in a Lonely Planet, Moon Guide, or other printed travel guide then it's not appropriate for Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:19, 24 March 2010 (EDT)

Hi Ryan, I hope everything is OK now. (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 08:44, 25 March 2010 (EDT)

 * While it may be better from an SEO standpoint to have "5 star", "London" and "Mayfair" in the listing, the policies above are clear about describing the establishment, not the neighborhood. "Individually designed suites and rooms by Guy Oliver. Recently opened Hélène Darroze's restaurant, a Michelin-starred French chef." is a far more useful description than "The Connaught is a 5 star luxury hotel situated in the heart of the fashionable Mayfair, London." -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 10:53, 25 March 2010 (EDT)

Reverts
Regarding this edit, it was almost certainly reverted due to the lack of any useful information about the hotel. As noted in SEO, describe the hotel, not the neighborhood, and include price ranges. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:19, 21 April 2010 (EDT)

 * The reason for this is simple: Wikivoyage is not meant to be a vehicle for advertising. There were problems with your entry, such as: no price info, extended url for SEO purposes (which is misguided, since we have enabled nofollow for urls to deter advertising agencies), zero useful info in the description, etc.). But the main point is that you are using Wikivoyage for advertising, and this runs counter to the purpose of the website. Indeed, it is a huge problem for our website, affecting its very credibility.

 * Have you even been to this hotel? Do you know anything about it other than that they are paying you to list it here? Unless you are adding listings to articles that have weak sleep sections, where your added listing is really well formatted and filled out, I'll likely revert the addition. And as I see my purpose here (for which I am not being paid) to be to improve the site by keeping it free of spam, contributing good travel writing, and illustrating the guides, rather than helping SEO agencies, I probably won't spend the time to leave a comment in the edit summary. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 12:25, 21 April 2010 (EDT)

OK, Peter, I hope it looks alright now. I just want to let you know that the URL we provided can't be shortened. (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 12:50, 21 April 2010 (EDT) OK, so now I really don't see what's the reason for the deletion. I've read your post very thoroughly and I followed all the rules when posting the hotel. (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 03:46, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

Ryan, do you have any idea what's the reason for the deletion? (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 03:47, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

 * The reasons for the deletion are made very clear in Peter's reply and I am not sure why you don't understand? On the subject of a shortened url - if there is not one then just use the general ICHotels address. We absolutely do not want those ridiculously long complex urls that hotel groups use these days as they mess up the guide when it is printed. Just to reiterate, there is zero SEO benefit to the hotel by including these urls as all Wiktiravel links are now marked no follow. If you can complete the listing as suggested, complete with price, sensible url etc, then there is a fair chance it will not be deleted. Don't be surprised though that Wiktiravel gives priority to traveller-written listings over those from marketing agents like yourselves.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:32, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

So the only reason for the deletion is the URL? We could fix that, if that's the only problem. We know that there's a "no follow" tag for the URLs, so our purpose is not a link to the hotel's site, but an online presence. Every other field is correctly filled and we're not sure if the editors view the changes. We understand that you give priority to the reviews by the real guests of the hotels, but if SEO companies aren't allowed to post articles in WikiTravel, just say it in your rules. We provided the full information required and a very short and informative description and hope the only problem was the URL. (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 05:43, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

 * No. The url is only one of the reasons. Please read Peter's comment again: the price field is not completed nor do you actually give any useful information about the hotel - its facilities for example. All the prose about the location is unnecessary - we already know where it is and what is nearby, as it is placed in the Paris/9th arrondissement article. I think you would find it helpful to re-read Project:Accomodation_listings. I hope that is helpful. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:51, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

Looks like you don't even look at the changes we make. Please look at the last change we made, not the first one: http://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Paris/9th_arrondissement&diff=1438740&oldid=1438675 There is a price given and the useful information in 1 sentence (not including description of the place). (WT-en) TravelStoreMaker.com 06:06, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

 * No one has a "right" to list their business here, and we do indeed frown upon marketing agency involvement. I'll just repeat myself verbatim, and make use of bold text this time:

 * Wikivoyage is not meant to be a vehicle for advertising. The main point is that you are using Wikivoyage for advertising, and this runs counter to the purpose of the website. Indeed, it is a huge problem for our website, affecting its very credibility.

 * Unless you are adding listings to articles that have weak sleep sections, where your added listing is really well formatted and filled out, I'll likely revert the addition. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 09:07, 22 April 2010 (EDT)

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Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 02:02, 21 January 2007 (EST)

Copyright on photos
Hi and welcome. I'm a bit concerned with the license restrictions associated with the photo you have uploaded. One of the goals is to be a completely open and free travel guide. Please see Project:Copyleft before uploading additional photos that have license restrictions incompatible with those goals. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 06:06, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Travel to Teach

Hi! Imediately stop adding your links all over our articles with teach to travel! See first our policies on welcome, business owners, tone, style and external links. If you don't follow we have a blacklist and you are pretty close to it. (WT-en) jan 03:32, 18 May 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Travel-Tuscany

Hi! Please don't tout and don't link to Marketing pages. (WT-en) Jc8136 04:33, 29 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Traveluruguay

Name: Roy Country: Canada Url: http://www.explore-uruguay.com

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User talk:(WT-en) Travelwatch

Welcome
Hello, Travelwatch! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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I've reverted your changes to User:(WT-en) HotelsCombined as it is generally considered inappropriate to change another person's user page. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 08:06, 19 February 2009 (EST)

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Welcome
Hello Travid77

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

I see you've discovered Project:What is an article?, which hopefully will provide some background on what gets its own article and why. Per that policy I've listed Mile on Project:Votes for deletion as we want to avoid the slippery slope of writing encyclopedia content. Some of your changes to Project:What is an article? may also be rolled back simply because that article is one of the bedrock policies of the site, and changes are usually proposed on the talk page for discussion before the policy is modified. Thanks for your contributions however, and hopefully we'll see more! -- (WT-en) Ryan 23:46, 30 January 2007 (EST)

Mile
Hi

Maybe you could create a User:(WT-en) Travid77/Mile page and copy your mile conversion to there - I'm not certain, but it might be acceptable to link to that from Project:Measurements. Or perhaps start a Project:Conversions page... ~ 61.91.191.2 02:21, 31 January 2007 (EST)

Egypt map
Hey there, Welcome again! Thanks for the more detailed Egypt map, I replaced the old one on the Egypt page since it has more detail... however I removed it from the city and oasis pages, since those pages should only have maps of the specific city or oasis that that article covers. Thanks for your contributions, looking forward to more! (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 05:17, 1 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) TravisWikiHowTest

Hello TravisWikiHowTest! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Travlin braden

Hello!

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Nashville images
Thanks for the images of Nashville. Just a few off the top of my head that I think would be great for illustrating Nashville would be the Loveless Cafe, Ryman Auditorium, or any of the bars on 2nd Street. If you can think of anything that characterizes Nashville (i.e. the Arc de Triomphe for Paris) chances are it would be a great image to incorporate into the Nashville guide. Thanks again! -- (WT-en) Sapphire 19:02, 13 November 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Travologist

If legitimate entries meant to help travelers are deleted (see my comment under "Discussion") for no valid reasons I will never make any more contribution to Wikivoyage and will ask whoever I know to just ignore Wikivoyage. Under these circumstances I will be ready to help sponsor competing websites.--(WT-en) Travologist 10:34, 27 May 2011 (EDT)

 * That's your prerogative. You may though wish first to understand a little about the highly evolved policies we have built up over many years here at Wikivoyage. The deletion in question has been fully explained here: Talk:Nha_Trang --(WT-en) Burmesedays 10:38, 27 May 2011 (EDT).

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User talk:(WT-en) Traywick

Please have a look at Wikivoyage's guidelines for hotel marketers. In particular, please do not use the first-person and be sure that the description describes the hotel, and not the SEO-friendly locations that are near the hotel. If you have questions feel free to ask them on this talk page or in the Pub. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:33, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trcheng

Hello Trcheng! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thanks for your edits to Taipei. Two notes though: (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:35, 16 September 2007 (EDT)
 * 1) Taipei is split into districts, so most attractions should not be listed on the front page.
 * 2) Images should be placed before text, not inside it.  (The exact position will change from browser to browser.)

Chinese Wikivoyage
Great work on Taipei! Would you be interested in helping out on the Chinese Wikivoyage? We could really use some people there who speak English, Chinese and Mediawiki! (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:39, 6 February 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tread

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 02:37, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TreatAshworth584

Why?
Excuse me, why did you make pages like FritschKlug685 and the other three pages? The content isn't unsuitable with what actually the right article contents; about travel.

Maybe you should see Project:Welcome, newcomers. Sorry if I was a bit rude. (WT-en) D-270599 (talk to me, please!) 10:31, 12 July 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Treekangaroo

Welcome
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User talk:(WT-en) Treelaugh

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User talk:(WT-en) TreePlanter

Hello, TreePlanter! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Pelee Island
 * Hello TreePlanter. I added information regarding the requirement for the appropriate fishing license in the Pelee Island article. Reason being, many coming out of USA waters do not take the licensing requirement into consideration and are subject to fines. If you disagree, please comment of the discussion page for Pelee Island. Thanks. (WT-en) 2old 12:09, 11 February 2009 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Treeserik

Hello, Treeserik! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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(And just so you know: you don't have to use one of our templates on your User page.) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 15:50, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trek2nepal

Hi! Please see wbo, dt and xl (WT-en) jan 07:40, 7 January 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) TrekExchange

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. You can also ask me for help anytime by visiting my Talk page and leaving a message. -- (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 18:51, 30 November 2008 (EST)

 * Thanks for your contributions, but please note that Project:External links explicitly advises not to add audio tours to articles. The logic behind that guideline is to encourage information to be added to articles, and also to avoid spamming as it is difficult to police what is a "good" audio tour and what is spam. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 22:35, 30 November 2008 (EST)

 * You may also want to take a look at Project:Welcome, business owners which contains some tips geared specifically to business owners. Thanks for taking the time to read the external links policies and create a user page. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 00:41, 2 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekinfo

Everest trekking in Nepal

The Glimpse of Everest Trek, although relatively easy compared to some of other treks, takes you up high along trails to Tengboche Monastery (3850m). This is a short trek but very scenic trek offers really superb view of the world's highest peaks, including Mt. Everest, Mt. Lhotse, Mt. Thamserku, Mt. Amadablam and other many snowy peaks.

We fly from Kathmandu to Lukla airstrip in the Khumbu region and trek up to Namche Bazzar, Tyangboche (famous for its monastery) and into the Khumjung village, a very nice settlement of Sherpas people. This trek is a great introduction to Sherpa country and its culture with great mountain views, a very popular destination for first time trekkers in Nepal. This trek is best suited for those who do not have enough time for longer treks into the high mountains.

(1) Everest base camp trek (Teahouse & camping) (2) Gokyo Trek (Teahouse & camping) (3) Everest base camp and Gokyo Trek (Teahouse & camping)

Everest base camp trek: Is the shorter of the two treks, being a 3 week round trip from the Himalayan king dom of Nepal It takes a wonderful route to Everest, via Gokyo Lakes and the viewing point of Gokyo Ri, which arguably provides a better view of Everest than the more popular Kala Pattar. The route then crosses a high pass, the Cho La, on its way to the Khumbu Valley and Everest Base Camp.

Gokyo Trek: Our goals are first the lakes of Gokyo, then in the Khumbu Valley we head to the South Base Camp of Everest. Crossing the spectacular Cho La (5420m 17,782ft) into the Khumbu is an adventure in itself. We then retreat to the hilltop viewpoint of Kala Patthar for the best of Everest. We will take a closer look at the spectacular Khumbu icefall (the climbing route to the South Col) the route taken on the first ascent in 1953. This circuit provides a wide experience of the Khumbu and in addition the now less frequented areas below Lukla airport, and offers an excellent challenge to the ambitious trekker. 26 days in total (3 nights Kathmandu) for the fit and experienced walker.

Everest base camp and Gokyo Trek : Everest Base Camp & Gokyo Lodge Trek. 24-days trip 20 days trek 4 night hotel in Kathmandu. The Best of Everest Trek to Two High Valleys - The Ultimate Trek. This 20-day Everest trek has everything the incredible mountain views from Chukung, Kala Pathar and Gokyo Ri. Popularly known as "The Ultimate Trek," it includes all that the Khumbu has to offer including the fascinating villages and Tibetan Buddhist monasteries and the culture and hospitality of the Sherpa people, who will surely? win your hearts. After starting with a flight to Lukla 2,805m.we trek up to Kala Pathar view point 5,550m.and then veer off the main trail to cross the Cho La pass 5,422m.into the Gokyo Valley. To top off this unique trek we climb Gokyo Ri 5,488m for a panoramic view of the greatest mountain scenery in the world - including five 8000 m. giants and myriad other peaks of the Khumbu Himal. Moderate to rigorous trekking from 2,805m. To 4,940m. With one pass Crossing of 5,422m. And day hikes up to 5550m. Accommodations in comfortable lodges run by Sherpa families. The trek starts with a flight from Kathmandu and includes all meals, services of experienced trekking guide and porters to carry luggage. Clients carry daypack only and walk at their own pace.

Ooi!
You just deleted half the Asia page and moved the entire continent to a different title! Stop touting and be more careful, or you'll be blacklisted permanently. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:02, 9 February 2008 (EST)

Similarly, why are you advertising your services on the United Kingdom page? It's a bit of a trip between there and Nepal, I think. (WT-en) Dguillaime 04:31, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Spamming advertising
Stop spamming your advertisements or I will consider seeking to ban your listings entirely. - (WT-en) OldPine 12:27, 17 February 2008 (EST)

Again today, the same touting schtick on the pages for Europe and for Austria. I would support a ban. (WT-en) Texugo 05:38, 18 February 2008 (EST)

Replacing page content with your add?
Again? That will be a ban. While banned from editing, please read the Project:Community policies --(WT-en) Nick 06:52, 15 April 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekker

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

Thanks for your contributions to Boracay. Unfortunately, I reverted a few of your changes, because there was an external links section in the article. Sorry about this, it must have slipped through the cracks.

I hope you can add more info, please see tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style as well as some important information on copyleft. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. -- (WT-en) Inas 21:53, 10 December 2008 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekker43

Hello Trekker43! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) TrekkerDMS

For older comments, see User talk:(WT-en) TrekkerDMS/Archive. -

Hello TrekkerDMS!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Huttite 16:42, 4 Jan 2006 (EST)

Manual of style
Please check out Project:Attraction listings and Project:Accommodation listings. The web link for an item comes last after the address and phone number. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Colin 18:48, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)

User talk pages
Hello! Just a minor point about talk pages, it's generally considered proper etiquette to archive old discussions by moving them to a page such as User talk:(WT-en) TrekkerDMS/Archive, rather than simply deleting them. That way the author of the original comment will know that you have at least read their comment, and in the future others are less likely to raise similar concerns. Of course, it's your page so you're welcome to do whatever you like, but some new users are often unaware of how others expect things to work around here. -- (WT-en) Ryan 16:24, 7 March 2006 (EST)

 * Thanks for creating the archive page. It's entirely up to you how you manage your pages, but there is sort of a tradition that discussions are always kept around - the Project:Using talk pages should probably be updated to reflect that fact...

 * By the way, thanks for all of the great photos and contributions. Our coverage of New England is surprisingly slim (outside of Boston that is) so it's great to see some new stuff being added. -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:21, 8 March 2006 (EST)

LNT
The reason you didn't know that there was an article about leave-no-trace camping is because there wasn't one until a few days ago. After I wrote it, I searched the wiki for references to LNT and linked them to it. Just trying to draw attention to my work :) - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 13:28, 25 March 2006 (EST)

Isle Royale map
I started by capturing a satellite image of the island, and used Adobe Illustrator's Live Trace function to approximate the shoreline. (Inkscape has a trace feature too, but I've never used it.) I had to play around a bit with the settings to get something that got the shape right, and then simplified it to two colors. I ended up having to do a lot of smoothing and tweaking (such as reconnecting peninsulas to the mainland or separating inland lakes), so it might have been easier to trace it by hand (which is what I'm doing for my map of Sleeping Bear Dunes... which is also a simpler shoreline). As it is, most of the little details, such as the curvature of a small peninsula or inlet, were made up by Illustrator trying to interpret and simplify a pixelated satellite image. But I figure if some hiker really needs to know the geography, they'll get a professionally-made map.

From there it was mostly a matter of drawing the trails in (using a couple maps as reference and taking care not to try to be too detailed), adding symbols and labels, etc. I put each major kind of element (e.g. the land, the trails, campsites, geographic labels) on its own layer to make it easier to manage them. I did all the work in Illustrator, then exported to SVG (which flattens everythign to one layer). I used Photoshop to import the Illustrator file, then scale it, crop it, and export it to PNG. (GIMP could've done the same with the SVG file.) Hope this helps. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 11:22, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

 * Could you guys copy this discussion to Project:How to draw a map, since it would be useful information for others who want to create a map? We really do need more good maps on the site, so any additional information that can be made available to people on how to create them is really helpful.  Thanks! -- (WT-en) Ryan 11:34, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

 * Done. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 12:03, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

 * Thanks! It's great info. -- (WT-en) Ryan 12:05, 6 April 2006 (EDT)

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Where in the world is Bar Harbor?
When i read the Bar Harbor article I did not know where it was. So I wrote an introduction for it based on the links I could find to it. Please check it over to see if I got it right. -- (WT-en) Huttite 19:49, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

Which Chelmsford?
Which Chelmsford do you mean? The one in Essex? or Massachusetts? Please add an introductory paragraph to your new articles so that they can be located. There appears to be 2 places called Chelmsford but the one near Bar Harbor is not located anywhere in the existing articles. -- (WT-en) Huttite 21:40, 6 Jan 2006 (EST)

Maine Microbrews
I am looking at what you are doing in Maine and I am not sure that I agree with bulleting all the different beers available from each Microbrewer all of them have several seasonal beers as well, should all of those be listed? Some have twelve or more available. If a brewer has only one or two available, then that might be of interest in the description. I have to admit I am big on Microbrew beer and have also just started to make my own beer, but I don't thing what is happening is Maine is all that good. I spent six months in Maine working and have been back a few times to visit. My thoughts would be to list maybe there most popular beer or maybe a couple of beers in the description as well as telling what is unique about the specific brewery. That said, I do think Microbreweries should be added to WikiTravel as there are a lot of people like me that try to find out if there are any and where they are located. I also like to know if they just brew or do they have a Brew Pub(s) available. What are your thoughts? Thanks.... 11:37, 21 Jan 2006 (EST)

Manual of style
Please check out Project:Attraction listings and Project:Accommodation listings. The web link for an item comes last after the address and phone number. Thanks. -- (WT-en) Colin 18:48, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekkingguide

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 02:37, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

Copyvio
I had to delete the text you provided in Island Peak Climbing since the text was not compatible with our copyleft and the http://www.himalayanglacier.com/Island_Peak_Climbing_23_Days_51.htm has a copyright notice at the bottom of the page. Also, I'm going to recommend Image:Mera-Peak-15.jpg be deleted since it's also not compatible with the copyleft. Even if it was compatible the "wwww.himalatanglacier.com" written across the image is not suitable for Wikivoyage nor is it very illustrative. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 03:15, 26 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekkinginnepal

Hi! Please don't tout, see xl and wbo. All your edits have been reverted because they violate our policies. (WT-en) jan 05:49, 31 October 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TrekkingTurtle

Hello, TrekkingTurtle! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Nice work on East Brunswick! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:32, 11 April 2009 (EDT)

Article status
Project:Article status is what you're looking for, and also Project:City guide status for the details. There's never any admin function to an article's status - any user can adjust them as they see fit, with the solitary exception of Star articles, which have a community discussion (not admin!) to pass through.

Outline is the default state for any article started up from the basic templates. The next step up, Usable, needs a few complete entries for at least Eat and Sleep and something for Get In. I'd say that East Brunswick definitely qualifies. — (WT-en) D. Guillaime 21:01, 9 October 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Treknepal

Welcome
Hello Treknepal! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are having trouble with some of the terms being used, check out the jargon page. -- (WT-en) Tom Holland (xltel) 11:32, 3 September 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TrekNepalNow

Hi! Please don't tout, see wbo and xl. Regards, (WT-en) Jc8136 11:37, 10 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trekpapua

What your user talk page is for
This page is where other users communicate with you, and certainly not where you promote a business. Actually, advertising is forbidden throughout this site, which is why your user page has also been deleted - at least twice now. All volunteer users are welcome to contribute knowledge that will help travellers - here, the traveller comes first, and not the business owner who wants to sell something. In addition to the links I've already posted here, read wbo. If you are willing to participate as a volunteer editor under the guidelines that have been created by consensus on this site, you are welcome here. If not, the internet is a big world, and there are plenty of other places where you may post the longest advertisement you want, just not here.

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 23:02, 23 April 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Treks

Hello!

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User talk:(WT-en) Treksguide

Thanks for your contributions, but please note that Wikivoyage is a travel guide and should not be used for advertising. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 02:06, 22 June 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TreltEltac

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User talk:(WT-en) Trester

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User talk:(WT-en) Trew

Hello Trew! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thanks for helping to clean up Tokyo -- the city needs all the help it can get! Please also chip in on the long-dormant districting discussion on Talk:Tokyo. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:00, 12 September 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trezatium

Hello Trezatium!

I see you have been here a while and have not been Welcomed to Wikivoyage yet.

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Thank you for all your contributions to date. -- (WT-en) Huttite 20:37, 17 Dec 2005 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) TrgetOrboc

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User talk:(WT-en) Tribal adventutes

Welcome to Wikivoyage. We have an introductory page for business owners--please take a minute to read it before going on with your edits. --(WT-en) inas 00:57, 6 January 2011 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) TriBble

Hello, TriBble! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Please take a sec to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. You may also want to check out our manual of style to see how we like to format articles. Thanks for your contributions so far, and sorry about the mixup on user login! -- (WT-en) Evan 13:18, 8 Nov 2003 (PST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tricknik

I realized no one has formally welcomed you to Wikivoyage, so here it is:

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 12:26, 3 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trillian

Hi! Please don't tout and see wbo. Also only list your business once. (WT-en) jan 05:26, 25 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trinbago

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to the whole wiki community look at the wiki markup to get an idea of how to use the wiki markup. If you need help, check out Project:Help, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

If you are a Wikipedian, or have previously used Wikipedia, then you may notice some differences in the style of our articles. Some of the changes are:
 * "Village Pump" -> travellers' pub
 * "be bold" -> plunge forward
 * "sandbox" -> graffiti wall
 * "stub notes" -> Article status notes
 * "External links" -> We do not use a separate external links section, but incorporate them into the text.

Thank you for contributing. -- (WT-en) Evan 16:56, 20 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trinemarie

Hello Trinemarie! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Trio

Hello Trio!

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Please also read Welcome, Wikipedians if you have used Wikipedia, as there are a few differences. A major one being we do not use any of the Wikipedia templates and messages. -- (WT-en) Huttite 07:06, 9 Apr 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trip Advisor

My name is Roman Terry. Please Note: This is not directed towards "you" but is simply a general request to "all editors" that may cross paths with any of my recent writings. It is not uncommon in the Wiki tradition for other editors to want to quickly display their fearless powers and before the original writer has a chance to make the necessary corrections, they will jump on in and start editing themselves or make flip undeserved comments. I ask kindly you refrain from hasty edits in any of my new works.

Almost always I will catch the mistakes and am simply getting words down on paper and will fix within a relatively short amount of time. I ask for professional courtesy in this area. I will in turn extend that same professional courtesy to you. Thanks for your attention to this small matter. I am now happily a WikiTravel editor, like you!

To contact Roman Terry outside of a Wiki, direct mail to: romanterry@aol.com

--(WT-en) Trip Advisor 03:52, 8 March 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tripchick

Welcome
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Thanks for your updates to Laguna Beach! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:46, 23 July 2012 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tripping point

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User talk:(WT-en) Tripter

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 06:49, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Triptych

testing

Welcome!
Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. --(WT-en) Evan 18:49, 19 December 2006 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Triseult

Spelling of Odisha
You have been doing a lot of work changing every mention of Orissa to Odisha, but I think your efforts have been unilateral and without any discussion or input, and may have to be reverted. Please take part in a discussion I've started on Talk:Odisha. Thanks.

All the best,

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 05:17, 4 January 2012 (EST)

 * Hi. Thanks for letting me know. I've commented in Talk:Odisha as you suggest. Hope it clarifies the nature of my intervention. --(WT-en) Triseult 06:26, 10 January 2012 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tristan1961

Hello Tristan1961! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Tristan Norton

Welcome
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Thanks for your contributions to Blackheath - I've made some minor copyedits to conform to the Manual of style, but otherwise it looks good. Hope to see more! -- (WT-en) Ryan 03:22, 18 Feb 2006 (EST)

Hello, do you remember me, I'm Elena from Germany. We met on the Camping site in rome! I don't know if you're the right one but I hope so otherwise it would be a bit embrassing. Anyway I hope you don't think that I'm crazy and that you write back. I would be so happy because I want to stay in contact with you!My Email: ElenaSetiodarmo@aol.com

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User talk:(WT-en) Tristan Thomas

Hello, Tristan Thomas! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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 * I have been watching your sandbox development of (WT-en) Costwold Water Park. Very nice work Tristan and well written. I know the CWP a bit myself from years ago.  I am wondering quite how it will fit in to the Wikivoyage hierachy.  Do you have anything in mind? --(WT-en) Burmesedays 02:26, 7 January 2010 (EST)

 * Not sure atm, but I think it is pretty much a region article? I would be interested in thoughts. (WT-en) Tristan Thomas 17:33, 20 January 2010 (EST)

 * Thanks for the reply. Don't worry about the delay :). The CWP has the scope of a region but does not really fit into the hierachy as we use counties as the lowest level region in England. Let me garner some opinion from others. My feeling is that this should be a specific travel topic, unless there is a neater solution. Watch this space. Cheers. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:59, 21 January 2010 (EST)

 * There's no strong consensus as of yet. Navajo Nation is an example of a precedent for using a region template for a distinct but extra-hierarchical region that overlaps the regions that are part of the hierarchy.  I would say, if it looks like a region, and walks like a region, you might as well use the region template.  If it doesn't fit into the hierarchy, so be it; but make sure you provide plenty of links to the actual hierarchical regions.  (WT-en) LtPowers 10:30, 21 January 2010 (EST)
 * I should also add that you should try to avoid duplicating content that would properly go in our Wiltshire and Gloucestershire guides. (WT-en) LtPowers 14:09, 21 January 2010 (EST)

 * Excellent advice from LtPowers. On that basis, the breadcrumb trail should be IsPartOf|West_Country. I think that might work out quite well. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:39, 21 January 2010 (EST)

 * OK, thank you. I'll do something like that. (WT-en) Tristan Thomas 04:17, 22 January 2010 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tristan Thomas/Cotswold Water Park

Hello, Tristan Thomas/Cotswold Water Park! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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 * I have been watching your development of (WT-en) Costwold Water Park. Very nice work Tristan and well written. I know the CWP a bit myself from years ago.  I am wondering quite how it will fit in to the Wikivoyage hierachy.  Do you have anything in mind? --(WT-en) Burmesedays 11:04, 6 January 2010 (EST)


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User talk:(WT-en) Tristram Shandy

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for catching and fixing that vandalism!

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User talk:(WT-en) Trmtnbike

Hello, Trmtnbike! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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User talk:(WT-en) Trobb

I'm rather puzzled by the heading "Get in" that is used on each page for information on how to go to the destination. My native speaker intuition says that "Getting there" would be better.

Can these all be changed? Or, is there a native speaker from somewhere who can assure me that "Get in" is an acceptable phrase?

 * Welcome to Wikivoyage! We use a rather strict set of article templates here to ensure that all articles are formatted identically, and "Get in" is the accepted heading.  It's fine English, just rendered as a command ("get!") to make it short, snappy and identifiably Wikivoyage.

 * Unfortunately I've had to revert your addition of the Arashiyama site to the Kyoto article, as the general policies for Project:External links generally don't permit other guidebooks. The aim here is to make Wikivoyage printable and self-contained — if you would like to contribute any info about Arashiyama directly, you are very welcome to do so. (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:46, 11 Oct 2005 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Trocko

Hello, Trocko! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Nice work on Kwasitchewan Falls! Please note, though, that there is no reason to delete the metadata at the bottom of the page, though its purpose may at first be inscrutable. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:04, 17 August 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TroctRocro

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User talk:(WT-en) T-rodesign

This is the travel page for CAL/ACEP's trip to Chicago. You can use this page to edit and create events and have people talk to one another about travel plans, arrival times, etc.

 * However, you should not do that here. Our overall goal is to create a travel guide. Since your discussion does not contribute to that, it does not belong here. See Project:Goals and non-goals. Perhaps try Wikivoyage Extra. (WT-en) Pashley 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tronganhgallery

Hello, (WT-en) Tronganhgallery! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Just as a side-note, please do not use your user page as an advertisement. Thanks! --(WT-en) globe-trotter 15:36, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) TrongHieuBK

Why do you think your organization deserves a separate travel article?
I think you are a well-intentioned, enthusiastic person. However, you don't understand the purpose of Wikivoyage. This is a travel guide, not a place to post separate articles about any touring organization, no matter how good. I have already proposed that your "Hanoi Free Tour Guides" article, which you are working hard on, be deleted, and I think there is actually a 100% chance of my proposal being adopted.

Have a look here, for an introduction to some of what Wikivoyage is and is not about: http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Don%27t_tout

(WT-en) Ikan Kekek 04:56, 17 March 2011 (EDT)

Dear Ikan Kekek! Thanks for your frank comment, I really appreciate it.

You can consider this post is touting, however, you can look at it other way. We gain nothing from this free tour services. The members of this organization are all students, they just want to help foreigners who come to Hanoi have a close look about our city, avoid scam and more chance for our members to practice English with foreigners. The purpose is not for making money, it's meaningful for travelers to Hanoi. We just post our information for them to know about us and how to contact. However, if you and admin of Wikivoyage feel it's inappropriate, you can remove it.

Thanks.

 * I do understand and appreciate that your organization is non-profit and offers free services. Therefore, it deserves a listing on the Hanoi page. However, it doesn't merit a separate article. That just isn't the nature of this site. I feel genuinely sorry to disappoint you, though.

 * All the best,

 * (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 15:37, 17 March 2011 (EDT)

Got your point. Sorry for making you waste your time check it and propose my post to be deleted. LoL :D This is official tout: If you have chance to come to Hanoi, email me and tried our Hanoi Free Tour Guides :)) My Email: TrongHieuBK@gmail.com

Best Regards.

 * I will definitely consider looking you up some day if I am in Hanoi. :-) (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 08:24, 18 March 2011 (EDT)

Hi Ikan Kekek, how're you doing? It has been a long time since we talked. Can I ask you for a favor? Recently, our post on Wikivoyage always be deleted. I don't know why, is it against regulation of wikivoyage? We do it with the good will, and just want other get to know about us by one line listing on wiki travel.

Thanks in advance.

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User talk:(WT-en) Tropic

Hi Tropic! Thanks for your edits on Boracay and on Philippines, they are much appreciated!

I thought I'd just drop by and welcome you to Wikivoyage. If you want to specialize your experience you may want to consider editing your preferences. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages.

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User talk:(WT-en) Tropicalconsulting1

Welcome
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When changing URLs please make sure you explain why the change is being made in the edit summary box, otherwise the change is likely to be reverted. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:33, 31 March 2011 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Tropicalrambler

Hello, Tropicalrambler! Welcome to Wikivoyage. Thanks for the information about Monterrico.

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User talk:(WT-en) Troutman

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for the info about Westport. --(WT-en) Evan 13:41, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Troutpoint

''This page is for discussing the corresponding user's activities. For questions, comments, or personal stories about this destination or topic, visit Wikivoyage Extra. For more about using talk pages check out Project:Using talk pages.''

Welcome
Hello, Troutpoint! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

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Thank you for your contributions of Yarmouth County to the Nova Scotia South Shore. I have suggested that your contribution of Yarmouth and Acadian Shores (and the content from the improperly named Yarmouth & Acadian Shores) be merged with Yarmouth County as the and in the title suggests there are two articles: Yarmouth and Acadian Shores. - (WT-en) Huttite 08:26, 7 March 2009 (EST)

Comments
Thanks. See my comments in the Yarmouth and Acadian Shores discussion page. This is one tourism region.

Nova Scotia Regions
Hi Troutpoint, saw your comment in Talk:Nova Scotia about its regions and wanting to change them but not sure how. The first step is to raise the issue on the talk page and propose some changes (so you're off to a good start!). The next step is to discuss possible new regions and build consensus on what they should be. Once we have consensus, pages are created / moved as necessary.

I've been to Nova Scotia a few times so I'll give it some thought and post a reply on the Talk page. The official tourist regions are a good start, but we don't always follow them. Typically we try to keep regions balanced with about 5-9 cities in them, so rather than giving Halifax-Dartmouth it's own region, it could be expanded to include nearby areas such as Peggys Cove. Anyway, I'll give it some thought and post something in the next couple of days. (WT-en) Shaund 10:53, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

Copyright
Hello, and apologies if I'm mistaken, but I believe this is your ip? If so, please take a quick look at User talk:83.61.174.76. Thanks! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:25, 15 March 2009 (EDT)

 * If you are the original author, that does permit the content to be copied. Please note that you are the original author on the talk page for the article, otherwise it will likely be removed again by someone else. Also, I would recommend toning down the language a bit—currently it seems to me a bit too promotional. I will leave this to you, though, since you obviously are more familiar with the area than I! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:19, 19 March 2009 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Troy34

Hello Troy!

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Thank you for removing the graffiti in Texas. -- (WT-en) Huttite 03:27, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)
 * No problem, glad i could help.(WT-en) Troy34 01:57, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

Texas Panhandle image
I think it looks fantastic! Thanks for the contribution! -- (WT-en) Ilkirk 17:39, 29 March 2006 (EST)
 * Thanks!(WT-en) Troy34 21:04, 29 March 2006 (EST)

Texas Images
Hello there.. Was wondering if you'd mind putting the rest of your Texas images on Wikivoyage Shared so that I can use them on Portuguese, Japanese, Italian and other versions of the Texas page. Thanks a lot. (WT-en) Texugo 03:18, 14 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Sure, i've been away for a while but i'll do it for you as soon as i can.(WT-en) Troy34 21:47, 1 November 2006 (EST)
 * They're excellent, by the way, good work! (WT-en) Cacahuate 02:21, 10 December 2006 (EST)

Hi, I was wondering if it would be possible to use your map of Texas cities in an upcoming issue of our magazine? I'm not sure who holds copyright to it, though, so I thought I would check in and see if that was a possibility. You can email me at beth at orbitalitus dot com. Thanks!

Hello Troy

I was wondering who has the copyright to the images of the texas regions? I would like to include them in an upcoming book. Drop me a line Texasghost31

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User talk:(WT-en) Troy950095

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User talk:(WT-en) Trsqr

Hello! Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub.-- (WT-en) Sapphire 16:31, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

 * I have been creating a vector street map, but my progress is starting to slow down, since I don't have all the street names. Since you seem to have a lot of knowledge about the city, I wonder if you could take a look at the map I have created and give me some feedback? Also if you have any resources (online or offline) that you could point out, I would be happy. You can find my email address from my user page. Thanks!

That's great, I'd like to help, but unfortunately I've never been great on the street names in Guangzhou - and I've checked, I don't even have a street map of the city at home. Sorry about that. I guess your best bet is to find an old Lonely Planet or Rough Guide for China. The street names won't have changed. (WT-en) WindHorse 21:06, 17 October 2006 (EDT)

 * Glad you get hold of something. Having a map will really enhance the quality of the article. Sorry, though, that I couldn't be of any help, but Guangzhou is one of those places where I know how to get from A to B but don't know the names of the streets Im passing through. I'm the same with Bangkok. Anyway, good luck. (WT-en) WindHorse 20:06, 18 October 2006 (EDT)

Guangzhou is my hometown, and I'd love to help. I'll be there soon too, and probably I'm able to get couple pictures that represent Guangzhou more. The new map on the page is great -- however, GZ has changed its district last year. So the map is little outdated. If you have a blank map, I may be able to add the information for you. I'm really good with street names too -- so if there's anything specific that you need help on -- leave me a message on my page. As for resources, the city sells a city map that is bilingual (English and Chinese). I got a 2006 edition here at home (I live in California, US). As for resources, I have a TIMEOUT guide to Hong Kong, which has a section on Guangzhou -- that was pretty helpful to foreigners. You can find that on amazon.com. Most online resources seen to be mostly in Chinese, but many are just copying from each other. However, there is a good English site thatsguangzhou.com. You should check that out.--(WT-en) Jianhuang 14:51, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

The bilignual Guangzhou map would be perfect for you for you to do the map. One good place to get at is Beijing Road Pedestrian Street -- there is a block full of bookstores. A tourist map costs 6 yuan. They are also all over the city, for an inflated price. About the redistrict, they combined Fangcun and Liwan to Liwan; Dongshan and Yuexiu to Yuexiu only. And the Northwest part of Tianhe is now on its own as Luogang. As for tourists, I don't think people care too much, though.--(WT-en) Jianhuang 15:23, 20 October 2006 (EDT)

Great job on removing outdated restaurants in Guangzhou! --(WT-en) Jianhuang 11:03, 24 October 2006 (EDT)

Cool! 6 hours are pretty short though. I never flew from that airport, but i picked up my mom from there last month and we took the Airport Express. It took 45 minutes to the city (China Hotel), mostly highway -- traffic was light. The taxi ride will be probably a little shorter, but it costs about 100RMB. The airport express bus (I think we took line #5), which is right outside the arrival exit, costs 16RMB. Too bad that I am not in Guangzhou right now. One thing though -- I don't know if you are flying from another Chinese city. If it is, most likely you already go through custom. If you get out in Guangzhou, you need to go through custom again, which is considered a separate entry to China -- which means you need a multi-entry visa. I assume you take care of this since you've travelled extensively.

When I was at the airport last month, the surrounding, even the airport itself, is under heavy constructions. My grandpa's hometown was actually 5 minutes from the airport called "Renhe(人和)" Unless you want to check out the rural life and a little urban touch, I wouldn't recommend you going there. There's not much famous site around there, but airport workers may have some ideas for people who have layovers -- since this must be a common question for them.

But you'll have couple days in GZ later, which there will be plenty of time. It would be a good to hear from a more foreigners' perspective, especially food. When I am in Guangzhou, I go and eat places where locals go and eat. About the maps I mentioned before, all 7-Eleven sells maps for 15 yuan. - Jianhuang December 16.

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User talk:(WT-en) TruBrother

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Thank you for your edits to Xhosa phrasebook. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:20, 11 December 2008 (EST)

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