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Talk:Baltic Sea

Deleted content that used to be #REDIRECT Eastern Europe It didn't make any sense... Maybe delete page. (if not create a list of surrounding countries or sth) -- (WT-en) JanSlupski 16:25, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I redirected it back to Northern Europe, where it pointed in the first place, before it was changed. Should be a redirect page as we do not write articles about bodies of water (yet). -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:28, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * But redirecting it to any of Northern, Eastern, or Central Europe seems to be misleading. Maybe redirect to Europe? -- (WT-en) JanSlupski 16:52, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Redirecting to one of these places is better than nothing. Perhaps we make it a disambiguation page and redirect it to all 3 as well as the Baltics too. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:53, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Northern, Eastern and Central Europe all have countries with Baltic coast. Either make an article of its own, or if we strictly do not like bodies of water, remove it together with all the links. Personally, I don't see why we are trying to limit the guide to land travellers only (waterways are a great way to travel). Anyway, I agree that this redirect does not make sense. (WT-en) Wojsyl 16:56, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * In fact there's only a single link from Stockholm, so this page is almost orphaned anyway. Just remove the link and delete the page. (WT-en) Wojsyl 16:58, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * NO! Avoid deleting pages in Wikis if at all possible. This page is a legitimate word combination that someone will link to in the future. It should remain as either a redirect or disambiguation page waiting for someone new to link to it and explain the problems we have already encountered. This way learning and knowledge is not lost. -- (WT-en) Huttite 17:04, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * OK. Although I'm not convinced if we have learnt anything here really. Just created some more confusion ;-) (WT-en) Wojsyl 17:07, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * OK. Agree page shouldn't be deleted, as: a) Probably somebody will recreate it, b) somebody else may search 'baltic sea' term. -- (WT-en) JanSlupski 17:17, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * I don't think it causes confusion. Instead it encourages people to think about what they are looking for and gives options to look at. Ideally a disambiguation page does not get linked to, because people try to make the links go elsewhere. The page then exists to provide guidance to the better links than the one used. That way our learning is captured for others to use. --(WT-en) Huttite 17:24, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

 * Good. Thanks. (WT-en) Wojsyl 17:31, 5 Feb 2005 (EST)

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Talk:Baltic states

I suggest adding kaliningrad to make it one countries/regions section! —The preceding comment was added by 123.145.7.53 (talk • contribs)
 * Kaliningrad is part of our Russia article hierarchy. (WT-en) LtPowers 13:16, 7 November 2009 (EST)
 * I don't think Kaliningrad gets the attention it deserves here. I'd suggest removing it from Russia (metaphorically at least) an grouping it here. cf. Reunion and French Guiana.(WV-en) Travelpleb (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2012 (CEST)
 * I do not agree, Kaliningrad is not visited by typical Baltic tourist, as it requires a Russian visa. Too much effort (and money) for limited experience. --Papuass (talk) 14:42, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Racism?
A few months ago, I visited Tallinn with friends, and one of us (who is of Native American origin) experienced racial profiling in a rather humiliating way. How much of an issue is racism in the Baltic countries today? /Yvwv (talk) 14:40, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Baltimore

The public transit system in this city is terrible. I'm changing this article.
 * Go for it!(WT-en) Majnoona 18:47, 22 April 2006 (EDT)

I agree. I have been to numerous cities and they all have better public transportation and I live in Baltimore. I have never ridden the light rail or the subway. The subway goes nowhere near any tourist destinations and the only destination the light rail passes is the baseball stadium.

Understand section
The Understand section says, "Some of Baltimore's neighborhoods are Canton, Federal Hill, Fell's Point, Little Italy, and Mount Vernon." What makes these neighbourhoods so special? (WT-en) Kingjeff 21:47, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

 * If you're asking, "Why were those neighborhoods chosen for the Understand section", I can't say. That's not really the format we like for describing neighborhoods, especially if they're worth writing a district article about. If you think there are some other neighborhoods that the average traveller to Baltimore should know, or if you'd like to expand this article in any way, please plunge forward. --(WT-en) Evan 21:59, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

I think the question that should be answered in that section is what make them special. If that answer is added, then it might not be a bad section. But just listing neighborhoods isn't really a productive Understand section. (WT-en) Kingjeff 22:05, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

 * No, it's definitely not a star Understand section. Much better would be some history, an overview of the city, what makes Baltimore special, and about 10 jillion other things. It's definitely in need of improvement! --(WT-en) Evan 23:29, 6 July 2006 (EDT)

SoulOfAmerica links removed
I've removed the external links to soulofamerica.com from this page. We'd love to have more information about African-American heritage, sites, food and events in this article, but we have strict rules about external links. --(WT-en) Evan 15:56, 26 November 2006 (EST)

Baltimore Tourist Board
I see that the tourist board has been editing this web site to make it seem like Baltimore is a safe place for tourists. I have seen too many cases where people in the downtown area were robbed at gun point. Some were hurt. Also, the police are horrible and have arrested tourists for asking directions. They were taken to Central Booking and subjected to body cavity searches and other forms of inhumane treatment. That is a fact! I think any one has got to be a god dammed fool to visit Mob Town.

 * Those are some serious allegations, can you back them up with information or news articles? -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 16:18, 23 April 2007 (EDT)
 * Speaking as a native Marylander, muggings do happen in the nice areas of Baltimore, but almost always late at night, as in other cities. I've certainly never heard of police arresting tourists for asking directions! ;) --(WT-en) Peterfitzgerald Talk 17:31, 23 April 2007 (EDT)

I most certainly can back those claims up. The mere fact that you have to ask shows you know nothing about Baltimore and aren't fit to edit this page. see - Chantilly couple to file complaint against police after arrest, robbery http://www.examiner.com/a-109257~Chantilly_couple_to_file_complaint_against_police_after_arrest__robbery.html - Mob Town Lawyer. Those are allegations that are not proven at all by your source. I could claim that something like that happened to me in Detroit, even though I have never stepped foot in that city.
 * Everyone is fit to edit any page. Second, an individual claim does not constitute evidence of a general trend. Got statistics? -- (WT-en) Colin 14:40, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

Copyvio?
The description of the Radisson appears identical to here. (The misspelling of Hippodrome tipped me off.) Any reason to believe this isn't a copyvio on the part of an earlier editor? --(WT-en) Jonboy 07:16, 10 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Thus deleted. Someone should probably check other hotel descriptions.  --(WT-en) Jonboy 10:25, 6 February 2008 (EST)

Undone edit
This did some worthwhile cleaning and adding, but also nuked great big slabs of the article, so I've reverted. Somebody who knows their Baltimore might want to through and cherry-pick the usable bits. (WT-en) Jpatokal 12:17, 14 April 2008 (EDT)

Districts
I think these districts all make a lot of sense travel-wise, and should all be able to support well-developed articles. With one exception, and that's East Baltimore. I'm not too sure what to do with that enormous swathe of city. It's clearly culturally distinct from its neighbors, and it would seem weird to not have an East Baltimore district, since the name and region are commonplace, but there's just nothing to do there (AFAIK—I guess I haven't ever ventured out into the far northeast). I suppose it could be merged with the Southeast under the name East Baltimore, but the Southeast is a very different sort of place. East Baltimore has a lot in common with West Baltimore (except in that it lacks anything of travel interest), but is on the other side of the city. Maybe we should just charge ahead with it and resign ourselves to one weak article in the districts scheme. Thoughts? --(WT-en) Peter Talk 05:26, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

 * I ran this by a friend of mine from B'more, and we had a few minor quibbles with the descriptions, but not with the districts. All the more reason to move ahead so I can edit it!  --(WT-en) Jonboy 11:13, 16 March 2009 (EDT)

Tweaks
I tweaked the boundaries a little bit to: I feel very confident that these changes make sense, but if there is disagreement, I will revert this change and we can discuss to come to a new consensus. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:18, 23 February 2011 (EST)
 * include Power Plant Live in the Inner Harbor;
 * include Charles North in Midtown;
 * and include Greenmount West in East Baltimore.

Neighborhoods
Reference information on neighborhoods-- it's helped me quite a bit and hopefully this is helpful to others as well. (WT-en) psychofish 12:28, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

 * City of Baltimore: Official planning and police districts by region
 * LiveBaltimore: List of all neighborhoods, By region, Interactive map, PDF map
 * Wikipedia: List of neighborhoods
 * Incidentally, there's also a large map printed out in the visitor's center at Inner Harbor.

"Do" section districtified
So I've just moved out all the information from the massive "Do" section to the relevant neighborhoods, and updated address/contact/hours/pricing as needed.

I have a big question about the LGBT section, as I'm none of those things but still want to remain sensitive to the LGBT travelers we have on the site, and in particular as it seems Baltimore is a very LGBT friendly city. First of all it seemed like a lot of those links that have to do with community centers and support groups don't have a huge relevance on a travel site (though correct me if I'm wrong) and looked more like a yellow-pages style of listing. I've moved the bars and performing arts venues into districts, as those are certainly valuable, and the Baltimore Pride city-wide event remains in the "Do" section, as that should attract a much wider audience than being buried in a strictly LGBT-only section. Everything else is moved to the "Cope" section because it seems to be more fitting than to be in a "Do" section. However, I'll let someone else have the last word on whether or not they belong or if they should be elsewhere, or even revert to the "do" section.

Also, now that the section is just down to two entries, there should be a paragraph or two summarizing the events Baltimore has to offer. Again I must leave that to the hands of folks more knowledgeable than I am. (WT-en) psychofish 19:48, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

7-digit or 10-digit dialing
I see that the Baltimore area has an overlay plan. Does anyone more familiar with Baltimore than I am know if 10-digit dialing is required to make a local phone call? If so, the formatting of phone numbers listed in the article might need to be changed (from "+1 410 XXX-XXXX" to "+1 410-XXX-XXXX"). (WT-en) Eco84 19:05, 19 August 2009 (EDT)
 * I think this has been the case for the entire state of Maryland since 443 and 240 were introduced in 1997. I'm always stunned when I go somewhere and I get an error when I dial the area code.  --(WT-en) Jonboy 20:45, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

 * It's a pretty long running practice to format all U.S. phone numbers as +1 XXX XXX-XXXX, so no change should be needed either way. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:01, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

 * The current policy seems to make sense to me. There seems no particularly consistent long running practice to write phone numbers any particular way, as there are more formats in the U.S. articles than you can poke a stick at.  It certainly makes no sense to have North American numbers exclusively deviate from at global policy for no apparent reason. --(WT-en) inas 23:39, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

 * There absolutely is a long running practice to write U.S. phone numbers in the +1 XXX XXX-XXXX format—look at any U.S. star article. Citing the existence of poorly formatted, unmoderated articles is not a convincing argument.  --(WT-en) Peter Talk 23:49, 19 August 2009 (EDT)

Neighborhoods
Well, this big map probably isn't too useful for our purposes here (more useful for Wikipedia), but I thought I'd share this detailed neighborhoods map here in case anyone finds a use for it:

Districts status
Baltimore is quite far from guide status at this point, but I'm planning to make this my next big project. To get focused, here is the current districts status: --(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:29, 23 July 2010 (EDT)

Is there still room for Baltimore as DotM?
Before the last couple of days' inrush of candidates for the Main Page feature I thought to myself that Baltimore would be a good DotM sometime during the spring/summer/autumn of 2016. With a Star district and most of the rest of the districts at Guide status (and even static maps!), this is likely the best major city article we haven't featured yet. Yes, in the district articles, listings need to be checked through and updated (with coordinates) and some of the district articles could perhaps be expanded but unlike some articles no massive cleanup would be needed.

As of now, it looks like North America (especially the northeastern quarter of the US) will be very well represented during 2016. Also, I have a hunch some fellow voyagers would like to see Seattle on the Main Page in a not too distant future. Would it be too much to add Baltimore to the club? What do you think, Andre and Ikan and others? ϒpsilon (talk) 16:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * My take on this: I don't know about scheduling, but if you feel like the city is ready, go ahead and nominate it, and if people feel it should be featured, the scheduling can be worked out later.

 * By the way, another fairly major US city that is close to being featurable is Nashville. I think it still needs some work, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:13, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * Ikan, Ypsi: The way the summer 2016 schedule is shaping up - Indianapolis as DotM in May to coincide with the Indy 500, Palmyra (New York) as OtBP in July to coincide with the Hill Cumorah pageant, Washington, D.C./Anacostia as OtBP in September because there's no room for it anywhere else - it would be extremely difficult if not impossible to shoehorn in any more U.S. destinations as either DotM or OtBP while avoiding both a) having any two of them on the Main Page simultaneously, and b) running any two of them in the same column back-to-back. Even if we did find a place for one, I wouldn't be too comfortable featuring two destinations in the same year that are as geographically close to each other as Anacostia and Baltimore. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 21:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

 * OK, I guessed that. Fortunately we have a lot of good articles from Europe and elsewhere. But the FTT section maybe would have room for one or two American itineraries? :) ϒpsilon (talk) 18:37, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Alt banners
Hello! I think the current banner is not so great. Here are a few options to choose from or not. --ButteBag (talk) 18:25, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

 * Great job! I love the library and City Hall and have a lot of trouble deciding which one I like best of the two. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:40, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Yeah, those are my faves too. Formal compositions usually seem to work best with extreme aspect ratios. --ButteBag (talk) 18:55, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Bump, anyone else care? I might go with the library. --ButteBag (talk) 14:17, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I like all of them, including the current, except #4. Powers (talk) 00:02, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

 * Great! The Library is the most arresting although the Harbor gives me a real feel of the city. City Hall would come third (although also a nice banner) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:27, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Merge of Baltimore County city articles.
There are a lot of city articles at Baltimore County that have very little content, and only a few entries. At Talk:Central_Maryland, we're considering merging them, and a lot of them would probably be merged into the districts of Baltimore. If there are objections to covering neighborhoods outside the city limits, now's the time to speak up. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 01:41, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Key Bridge
Apparently it has just collapsed. I presume this will cause significant disruption for a few months at least – should we mention something about it? I have not been to Baltimore and know very little about this bridge's importance. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 07:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

 * All I'll say is that thankfully it happened at 01:40 and not during peak hours. The search for 7 missing persons is still on so the disruption to this area is significant. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 11:02, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Key Bridge isn't really in any of the districts we have for Baltimore. Possibly you'll find an appropriate place to mention it in the Baltimore County article.
 * The bridge collapse is mostly going to impact truck traffic to the port and industrial areas of Dundalk/Sparrows Point. Most travelers like you and me would use the Fort McHenry Tunnel or the Baltimore Harbor Tunnel, both of which are unaffected. Mrkstvns (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Given that it's not actually in the city, is a caution box appropriate and necessary? It's not like it's a temporary thing. It will be out of service for quite a while. Plain text would be more appropriate, I think. Ground Zero (talk) 20:52, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I prefer a cautionbox for maintenance purposes. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 03:05, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd also say that traffic will settle down and find alternative routes in a month or so, after which the text can be removed altogether. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 03:19, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Something like would solve that. I have seen use for it before too. The template on en-wp seems to require a lot of external code, the one on sv-wp significantly less. Should we try to import or write our own? –LPfi (talk) 07:04, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * We already have show by date – maybe it can be applied on this article to expire in 45 days? -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 07:31, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes. Ideally the "after" text would include a maintenance category. That way it would have the functionality of – but it seems nothing like this is needed here any more.. –LPfi (talk) 08:32, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Given it's been a month since the incident, I think it's safe to say traffic patterns would have adjusted by now; I've removed the caution box entirely. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 00:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Good call. Mrkstvns (talk) 13:16, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Morris A Mechanic Theater
The Morris A Mechanic Theatre was on the main page and I am trying to move these venues to the appropriate districts, and it seems Downtown is the right place for it to go. However as I was searching for information on it I came across this news article that seems to indicate it is closed. It's a few years old though so I'm not sure what the status of it is or whether I should leave it on the page, so here it goes in the discussion section. (WT-en) psychofish 09:16, 29 June 2009 (EDT)

 * This would be the appropriate page for it, but it has indeed closed, as reported in on this Baltimore Sun page. If it won't be demolished, it is possibly worth listing for its architectural value. (70.199.101.30 02:33, 24 February 2013 (UTC))

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Talk:Baltimore/Fells Point

Star nomination discussion
Archived from Project:Star nominations:

Here's a great neighborhood in an improperly often overlooked American city. I'm feeling pretty happy with the article, and think it should hold up through the nomination process. It would be the first Baltimore star, on the path to starring the city guide itself! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 14:14, 15 August 2011 (EDT)

 * I wish I had your eye for what makes a readable map. Just a couple of notes: I don't know that it's necessary to have subheadings in "Sleep", since there are only five listings.  And it appears a little awkward to have two different kinds of subheadings in "Eat": two by cuisine and three by price; it's not immediately obvious how they interact with each other.  (WT-en) LtPowers 09:12, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

 * Superb. Especially love the map and I think that this is the standard we should all strive for when drawing district maps. I would agree that the sleep section does not really need splitting. On the eat section I think the preamble makes it clear enough and I like the way it has been split. Oh, support in case that was not clear :).--(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:51, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

 * Support. I'm jealous of your map, now I have the urge to remake some older ones of mine.. Anyway, I still have a few questions. The Do section lists the Fells Point Ghost Tours—does this comply with our Tours policy? About the map, it says "Fell's Point" twice which I think is a bit confusing. And finally, I agree with LtPowers' notes of the Eat and Sleep sections. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 10:16, 16 August 2011 (EDT)

 * I'm ambivalent towards that ghost tour listing. I do feel that it doesn't pass muster per tour, but I can't work up any hostility towards it. And thanks for all the map compliments! It was a tricky one. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 10:08, 22 August 2011 (EDT)

Closed listings

 * Ask your hotel concierge where to have Maryland-style crabs, and Obrycki's will likely be the first word to pass through their lips. The crab house dates back to 1944, which later expanded to be a first rate seafood house, more generally. Still, though, the crabs are the local stars. Obrycki's does not use the typical Maryland Old Bay seasoning you'll find all over the state—it's too old school for that. Back ih the day, every crab house used their own spice, and Obrycki's is using the same black pepper based spice they always have. Closed in the winter, since they only serve fresh local seafood! 2011 is, believe it or not, Obrycki's last year before they close their doors for good, so it would be good to make a visit before it's too late!

--(WT-en) Peter Talk 18:41, 10 March 2012 (EST)

 * Ecuadorian food! Similar to Peruvian food, ever-divey Cazuela has some really hard-to-find dishes on the menu, most notably cuy for a wild $40, the incredibly delicious food of the Incan kings (fried guinea pig, to be exact). The churrasco platter is a prime choice for a big appetite—an enormous skirt steak with fried egg, guacamole, plantains, and just about everything else. Ceviche is another great option, particularly if your appetite is not so gargantuan.

--(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:11, 24 July 2012 (EDT)

Protect this article
Looking at the article history, as of lately this article has been a place for a vandal (the "steward hater") to attack another user. I suggest the article should be protected to prevent such behavior. ϒψιλον (talk ) 15:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ I didn't know about this comment when I did it, actually, just seemed like the page should be semi-protected. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk | contributions ) 15:18, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The vandal's mean user name should, if possible, also be hidden. Perhaps Andre or Ikan have the powers to do that? -- ϒψιλον (talk ) 15:39, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's already been ghidden and glocked by stewards. Thanks! Praxidicae (talk) 15:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Baltimore/Inner Harbor

Closed listings

 * There isn't anything particularly special about Mist, it's just a club in the complex, with Top 40 and hip hop on the dance floor. Thus, this is the answer to the question, "is there a club near my hotel where I can dance to Top 40."

--(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:18, 30 January 2012 (EST)

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Closed? listings

 * An excellent Russian restaurant, and an experience to be had if you are not familiar with Russian culture. The food is pricey, but it's hard to go wrong here, from mundane Russian pelmeni, to Georgian shashlik (wonderfully seasoned at this restaurant), to Uzbek chebureki. The restaurant is generally empty from opening to late dinner, but late at night it fills to the brim with the local Russian community, coming here for a raucous night of boozing and dancing to (um, heinous) Russki pop-sa and assorted Eurodance. Not a good time to eat, but a very fun and unique experience for the uninitiated! For drinks, try a Russian Baltika (beer), Russkii Standart (Russian Standard; vodka), Georgian wine (Khvanchkara is the best option), or just bother them for not carrying Armenian brandy.

Sadness, I loved this place. It seems like they are now operating only as a bar/nightclub? If so, I'll try to put it back, albeit under drink, once I confirm what's going on. Phone is disconnected... --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:35, 11 April 2010 (EDT)

Votes for deletion
This affects the banner for this article, so leaving a notice here out of courtesy. --Rschen7754 04:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Votes for deletion
The banner for this article is being discussed again. As I Understand it, the issue is that the banner contains a photo of a sculpture for which there is no freedom of panorama, and so there has to be editorial justification for its use. It would be helpful if editors that are familiar with the area could contribute to this discussion. AlasdairW (talk) 10:58, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Baltimore/Southeast Baltimore

I will be updating this page in regards to the Canton area over the next week or two in regards to eating, drinking and general things to do. I have lived in the area for almost five years, so I have a lot of good places to hit up for the traveler looking to get past the Inner Harbor and Fells. Let me know if you hold exception to anything. (WT-en) Cheesemaster200 18:05, 19 June 2011 (EDT)

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 * No FoP in Mali. The image is a poor quality pic, so do we want it? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:48, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

 * It's not visible in the article. It would be nice to have more images in this article, but it looks like there are quite a few more in Category:Bamako, so this one is inessential. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:19, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

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 * No FoP in Mali; not an exceptional pic anyway. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 06:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

 * No, and I'm not saying we should put this photo in particular on the page, but we have only one thumbnail image on the page now, and that's really insufficient for a capital city. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:21, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

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salut

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Talk:Bambara phrasebook

Handy link:
 * http://www.ikuska.com/Africa/Lenguas/bambara/ Spanish Bambara word list
 * Some Bambara stuff, in French

(WT-en) Guaka 21:27, 19 Jan 2005 (EST)

alphabet
I had started to put a couple things into the Bambara alphabet (some special characters like ε and ɔ but no accents), but then I found a textbook that uses the french spellings like most of what was already on here -- would it be better to provide both versions, or just stick with one or the other?

 * Hi! Thanks for your contributions! It's fine to use the phonetic characters. Older books, including my fr-bm, bm-fr dictionary, often use accents, but it's better to keep the accents of the tones. However, especially for the Bambara Wikipedia I think it's a good idea to accept text including è, ò or ô. BTW, I think it's better to use this ɛ. For me it looks a bit better than your ε. And it's copied from the ɛ from an IPA table I found on Wikipedia (whereas ε is from the Greek alphabet). I'm checking out the pywikipedia framework to see if I can do auto-replacements of ò and è. (WT-en) Guaka 11:26, 8 Jun 2005 (EDT)

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Talk:Banana Pancake Trail

Initial comment
Nice idea for an itinerary!--(WT-en) Burmesedays 22:48, 27 February 2010 (EST)

Consolidation?
We currently have this itinerary, One month in Southeast Asia, Bangkok to Ho Chi Minh City overland, Ho Chi Minh City to Shanghai overland, Overland to Tibet, Yunnan tourist trail, Overland Kunming to Hong Kong & perhaps a few I have missed. Some of those have not been edited in several years.

I'd like to see an itinerary on the route from Bangkok to Kunming via Vientiane. There is some info in the Yunnan tourist trail itinerary, but I think it is out of place there.

We once had others in the region, but they were deleted: Votes_for_deletion/April_2011 and Votes_for_deletion/May_2011. At one point there was a rather long and messy discussion Wikivoyage_talk:Itineraries.

Should some of these be reorganised? Deleted? Merged into others? Can anyone suggest a decent overall plan here? Pashley (talk) 20:09, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Bribing advice
Is this in violation of our illegal activities policy?

''And don't argue with Thai police when they ask for traffic infringement fines. Hand over 500 baht and walk away.''

Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:19, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Banaue

The photo looks nice, but is it Banaue? Where exactly is Cambolo?(WT-en) Shep 14:46, 5 April 2009 (EDT)

Listings of individual guides
First, are we making Banaue an exception to the usual prohibition of tour agency listings, based on added value? Secondly, do we think it's OK to list individuals? We've been having a related discussion in Talk:La Paz about individual Spanish teachers. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 06:15, 28 January 2012 (EST)

 * The two tour guides, one of them a driver/guide, listed in the Do section seem to be in conflict with the general policies on listing tour guides. They do not seem to be doing anything that requires a permit or restricted areas access and do not appear to be taking anyone to a place that they could not go to themselves. I do not though that one of them is described as providing "regular treks in the Northern Luzon, but also some extreme activities". this is not really defined very clearly though. He is described as "accredited" but it is not explained by who he is 'accredited' or what it is that he is accredited to do. I think I would be inclined to delete them both, or move them to the Talk page and leave them there for discussion to determine if they are offering specializsed trekking services or some kind or are really just fairly ordinary driver/guides. -- (WT-en) felix 13:31, 28 January 2012 (EST)

 * I agree: The entries are not specific enough to demonstrate notable added value. I'll delete the listings and refer them to this discussion. Thanks for your input, Felix. (WT-en) Ikan Kekek 18:11, 28 January 2012 (EST)

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Talk:Banda Aceh

Bwaha. Yes, I'm back. Anyway, I'm forgot to log-in, but I added bits to "Get In", "Eat", Added the "Drink" and "Do" categories. Stay safe...thought I'd put in some bonus info - gotta protect the money!(WT-en) Ojousama 23:18, 6 February 2009 (EST)

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Talk:Banda Islands

Hi, does anybody know how the weather is from february till may in banda islands ?
The weather should be ok, or "getting better", following the moonsoon in January. June and July are also monsoon months when it is very wet an windy, making inter-island travel risky. This advice is based on a diving operator in the Bandas. Danielstoker (talk) 15:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC) (Visited the Banda Islands in March 2013)

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Talk:Bandarban District

The "List of Unions" needs to be broken down into regions/cities like other Wikivoyage guides. --(WT-en) Evan 10:32, 8 January 2007 (EST)

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Talk:Bandelier National Monument

Feedback
As requested, here's a few quick comments about this article, with the caveat that I haven't read through the whole thing yet. That said, for a first article this is a tremendous job. You've got more than enough to give a visitor a sense of what the park is all about. Some possible suggestions might be to add information about nearby lodging under a "Lodging" sub-heading under "Sleep" - many people don't want to camp, so it's helpful to them to know how far away the nearest hotels are. Additionally, the wilderness camping section can be put under its own sub-heading of "Backcountry" (see the Project:Park template).

As to pictures (and other data), nps.gov is public domain unless otherwise noted, and they have a few pictures online. I didn't see anything there that blew me away, but I just kind of glanced through. The only other feedback I can see at this point is more of a subjective thing: I like to break up activities like "hiking", "photography", etc under their own headings (see Yosemite National Park), while others don't. My personal opinion is that it's nice to look at an article and know immediately what there is to do, but it's a matter of opinion. If you prefer paragraphs that's perfectly fine - I may sneak in one day when you're not looking and break things up, but I'll try to restrain myself ;)

Summary: great first article, and I hope to see more! -- (WT-en) Wrh2 01:42, 26 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * Thanks for the note. I considered doing exactly as you said for the "Do" topics, and will probably do so as soon as I gather my thoughts on photography, wildlife viewing, etc.  The "Lodging" idea is a good one that I'll act on. (Note that I left the "Camping" just as it was when I found it; whoever set it up didn't use the Backcountry sub-heading, so I didn't second-guess them.) (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 09:46, 26 Aug 2005 (EDT)

 * I went ahead and second-guessed the original author and added the backcountry sub-heading to conform with the Project:Park template; it's almost never a bad idea to edit an article to conform more closely with the standard styles as the site is more useful when articles have a consistent structure. Once again, great work thus far. -- (WT-en) Wrh2 13:18, 27 Aug 2005 (EDT)

Updates
A few updates today, based on this weekend's hiking there. None of the changes are terribly significant; the main thing is that backcountry camping is somewhat more restricted than I remembered it. This is an incredible fall for wildflowers! -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:55, 18 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Picture
Okay, I changed the picture. I purposefully went and took one that looked like the one that was already there. I liked the fact that ruins could be seen as well as the Frey trail and the whole canyon wall. It gives the reader an idea of what ruins may look like, the kind of hiking that can be found and an impression of the majestic views it has to offer. I was mostly displeased with the quality of the image that was there before. It was very grainy, but not (at least to me) in a particularly good way. I have a less cropped version of the image that's up right now.

I'm not sure which is best. I'm not completely pleased with the shot in general either. I tried to get the Frey trail from the other side where it's visible, but half of the canyon was dark. I think it's unevitable around this time of year. Comments and suggestions welcome. If you're familiar with the area, feel free to suggest better or other shots. I'm there often and like to take pictures. :) (WT-en) Charles 01:33, 14 November 2006 (EST)
 * That's an improvement, thanks. Something better is still needed, IMO, but it's hard to get good shots at this time of year, as you point out.  I took a whole bunch of photos there this weekend and will see if I can photo-shop one into being useful.  (Incidentally, I reduced the photo on this page slightly, to make more room for text.) -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 09:40, 14 November 2006 (EST)

Reopened after Las Conchas wildfire
I have made a quick and sloppy update to the red warning box at the top of this article, noting that it is now partially open after the 2011 Las Conchas wildfire. The red box previously said it was fully closed. The update is not properly formatted nor properly referenced. It is a copy/paste from the official website in quote marks. I am brand new to wiki updating, so please accept my apologies. This was not meant as graffiti or nonsense. I was just trying to make the update quickly without taking hours to learn how to wiki-update. Please feel free to revise my update. The source of the quote is from the nps main page on Oct 6, 2011 - http://www.nps.gov/band/index.htm. 70.162.155.46 07:43, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

 * Hi, no need to apologise, your contribution to the article is appreciated. Have a look here as a startting point for Wikivoyage website and editing information. I have looked over your recent edit and applied a corrective edit to fix up the formatting and display on the page. Thanks again for doing the update and for clearly describing what you did in the edit notes, that was a big help and made sure that it was looked at and attended to promptly. --cheers -- (WT-en) felix 08:57, 6 October 2011 (EDT)

Ready to feature?
Could this article be nominated at Dotm? Or is anything missing? /Yvwv (talk) 17:35, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I think the fees and listings should bevipdated from 2018/2020. Ground Zero (talk) 17:51, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Bandhavgarh

Merge with Bandhavgarh National Park?
Both this article and Bandhavgarh National Park are covering the national park. I think we should merge the two articles unless there is a reason to have a separate Bandhavgarh page. Any objections? (WT-en) Shaund 09:57, 23 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Bandhavgarh National Park

Just did a messy merge, so this article could probably use a healthy dose of copy editing. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 12:04, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Advertising
Some prick has used the page to advertise his hotel. At the bottom of the 'sleep' section there is a huge rambling tout of this hotel obviously written by an Indian (you can so often tell). I was unable to remove the text myself. Maybe I'm not computer-savvy, or maybe this Indian is an IT guru.

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Talk:Bandipur National Park

Distance to mysore
I do not think Mysore is 89 km from this place. From mysore aproximatly 75km is Bandipur forest office. This is where rides start. That can be considered as bandipur(for distance calculation). If you drive 89 km from mysore palace(centre of mysore for distance calculation), you will cross over to tamilnadu state, and will even cross mudhumalai forest office (88 km from mysore) -Kiranbg 08:37, 19 November 2008 (EST)

Well, please Plunge forward good sir/madam :) --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 08:40, 19 November 2008 (EST)

TIGER RANCH
If you want to ruin your trip there is not a better place in the world than TIGER RANCH....this is a perfect recipe for a disastrous holiday.

Let me begin by giving you a brief description of the jungle suite:

1. It looks wild and shabby from outside, but hang on .... you aint seen nothing ..wait till you step inside ...cause ladies and gentlemen ... to welcome you in your room there is a variety of Insect families waiting inside, and you will be greeted  with a lot of warmth(like it or not). The bed bugs enjoy the majority in the small dingy suite, and they are huge connoisseurs of RED WINE (AKA..BLOOD), they get into action as soon as you park your rear on the bed. 2. The bed sheets & pillows have a very strong and disgusting smell and sleeping on them is a hard-work, and if you have insect phobic people like my friend Bosky, don't even try..!! 3. There are no lights or fans (working) in the rooms 4. If someone wants to use the toilets, the others must leave the room as the bathroom doors do not qualify to be called doors, also they are simply disgusting. 5. The hotel staff along with the owner needs a crash course in hospitality. 6. The food wasn't great either (except chilly chicken) and is served in a not so hygienic environment. We checked in at 11am and checked out at 3 pm the same day as none of us wanted to endanger health by staying at "Tiger Ranch". If you hate someone very badly, and would like to ruin their holidays, send them here - and you will roll over the floor laughing at your revenge. If you want me to elaborate on my experience, please email me at ajitesh.m@gmail.com

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Talk:Bandung

Pictures anyone?
This article can be improved through adding some pictures from Bandung. Possible pictures are: To avoid copyright issues, it would be good if the pictures are taken by yourself.(WT-en) Urang bandung 08:54, 21 July 2006 (EDT)
 * pictures of Angkot,
 * pictures of a landmark building, to replace the old gedung sate picture, and
 * pictures of some local foods: siomay, batagor, mi kocok?

 * Wikipedia and its Commons have a few CC-BY-SA images we could use, such as .  Another resource is to search in http://flickr.com/creativecommons/by-sa-2.0/ and http://flickr.com/creativecommons/by-2.0/ (both of which have Wikivoyage-compatible licenses). - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 09:32, 21 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Now I'm a bit confused. According to image policy, only CC-BY-SA ver. 1.0 that is allowed in Wikivoyage. Are other versions of CC compatible here? -- (WT-en) Urang bandung 05:13, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

 * That's actually a very difficult question... but Evan seems to think that the answer is "yes". (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:19, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Good to know. Anyway there's no worth pictures from CC-BY-SA mentioned above for Bandung. They are not representative. I need somebody's help to finish this article with pictures, but I don't live there, currently. Sigh. --- (WT-en) Urang bandung 10:31, 25 July 2006 (EDT)

How about attribution to source of pictures (even better its creator)? I see photo about "request about angkot to stop" is taken from The Famous Dago Street, Bandung. 202.138.226.2 08:00, 11 August 2006 (EDT)

 * The image is CC by-sa licensed and correctly attributed, see Image:Angkot.jpg. (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:04, 11 August 2006 (EDT)

Hotel and Restaurant Classification
Is it possible to split hotel and restaurant into "budget", "mid-range" and "splurge"?

 * Would be better to classify by area first (most of the questions in other Bandung travel forums). Then for each hotel we can specify the prices. Like in most travel books. (WT-en) Kristy Whanarahardja 28/01/07

 * Surely most travellers decide their budget first, and then figure out where to stay? However, for really big towns, the city can be split into districts. I'm not sure Bandung needs this though. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:37, 28 January 2007 (EST)

urang bandung, i just wanted to say thank you for a very good article! your work is certainly appreciated :-) -anonymous Canadian dude

Currently Bandung is developing a lot with good Indonesian economy. I have put the districts/area information in the guide, anyone has an idea of what should we do after this to reach a Star status?(WT-en) Hosana.k 04:04, 11 February 2012 (EST)

Telephone format inconsistency
As you can see, there are different format for telephone. And I would like to standardize into (which I believe, ITU format) +International_number Area_Code PhoneNumber for example +62 22 911.

Other way is to add Area Code information in top section and remove all International_number and Area_code at all. Since all these place was located in Bandung, it would be safe to assume International number and Area code would be +62 22 xxx

 * Our standard approach is to include the country code in italics, followed by the number you'd dial locally. See Project:Phone numbers. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 07:03, 20 June 2007 (EDT)

The Meaning of "Kota Kembang"
I'm not saying that your writing was totally wrong or anything, it's just that I don't think it's fair to suggest that the "kembang" (blossom) in "Kota Kembang" refers to the ladies, because there are some other opinions as well. I admit, I always thought that "kembang" in "Kota Kembang" refers to the flowers, I know, silly me right. But just recently I had the chance to speak with the people in Bandung tourism office, and Mr. Raksanagara himself told me about how wrong I was thinking that way. The "Kembang" actually refers to "berkembang" (lit.blossoming) in a sense of "developing" ("Developing Country" in Bahasa Indonesia is "Negara Berkembang"). It was called that way because it developed so much from a serene and cool tea plantation site, to trendy resort city for the Dutch and other Europeans, to a city of Indonesia's revolution against the colonial Dutch, to the city of Asian-African Conference, to favorite weekend getaway for Jakartans, and so on.

So yeah, that's the official scenario. But like I said, I'm not saying that other stories are wrong either. I think it'd only be fair if we explain all of the possible meanings of "kembang" in this context; the ladies (and the gentlemen too, why not. I'm sure mr. Urang Bandung himself is a very handsome man), the development, or even the actual flowers themselves, because there are still alot of flower plantations in the suburbs.(WT-en) Jiwa Matahari 04:55, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

Article Status
As good as this article is (very), it should not have guide status as none of the listings are in WT template format. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:12, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

 * AFAIK templated listings are not a requirement for guide status. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:09, 30 September 2009 (EDT)

Jakarta Airport Transfer
Moved listing from article, possible Tours listing and appears to be a Jakarta based service offering services from Jakarta, including airport transfers from CGK-Bandung. Bandung car rental services are not described on their website, they have a Jakarta address and tel number. Bandung is presented more in the context of day tours and accommodation bookings. Appear to be a legitimate Jakarta based service but not a Bandung car rental or driver with car provider. Their( Jakarta) prices are also quite absurd. (WT-en) felix 11:00, 25 July 2011 (EDT)

 * Whole day car hire in Bandung with driver available, option of stopovers at Puncak, Bogor, Cirebon. Choice of economy (7 seater) or jumbo vehicle (15 seater). Online reservation and instant confirmation available.

The listing has recently also appeared in the Jakarta article and been edited accordingly in that article. -- (WT-en) felix 11:37, 26 July 2011 (EDT)

District discussion
I seems like someone (probably back on WT) put a lot of effort into defining districts, color schemes and a map for this article.

Because the districts are (by self admission) unofficial, it is going to require someone with very good local knowledge to actually create these districts and move content down. (unfortunately I only spent one day there, so I can't do it myself)

Since I believe this will not happen in the short term, is it OK to move the content in districts to this talk page (for safe keeping) and replace with a dynamic map for now? Andrewssi2 (talk) 13:40, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

 * I moved the following from the article page, since we need someone to complete this work before it can be of use.
 * A district discussion template has been placed on the article instead. Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:28, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Traditionally, Urang Bandung (Bandung person) know exactly when we say North, means north of Railways from West to East. And before change of the name there are West Big Road and East Big Road, West is from Alun-alun (Central Park) to the west and East is from five intersection (Prapatan Lima) to the east. Central part is around Alun-alun, but people only say near Alun-alun, so no specific boundary of it. People tend to divide Bandung to 4 parts only and even North and South only, because south area is plain and north area is hilly, north area has more big houses and parks and south area is the reverse.Gsarwa (talk) 03:55, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

 * This discussion of 2.5 years ago is still relevant, I think. Considering the size of the city of Bandung, and the information already available on the article page, it makes sense to make Bandung a 'huge city' with districts. The proposal below, however, has too many districts in my opinion (Jakarta has 5, so Bandung shouldn't need 11). My proposal would be to districtify Bandung as follows:
 * Central Bandung: more or less Kota, Upper Central and City Hall Area of the proposal below. Bordered by Jl. Pajajaran and the Riau Junction mall in the north, Jl. Arjuna and Jl. Astana Anyar in the west, Jl. Pungkur in the south, and Jl. Karapitan, Jl. Sunda, and Jl. Sumbawa in the east.
 * Alun-Alun, Braga, railway station, Bandung Indah Plaza, Hilton hotel, ...
 * Dago: Dago Area, Upper Dago Area, and the western part of the Riau/Gedung Sate area. Western border is the river.
 * ITB campus, Gedung Sate, upper Dago area including THR Juanda, Sheraton hotel, ...
 * East Bandung: eastern part of Riau/Gedung Sate area, eastern part of City Hall area, and east of the river.
 * Cicaheum bus terminal, Saung Angklung Udjo, Trans Studio Bandung, Gedebage stadium, Buah Batu...
 * South Bandung: South of Central Bandung, west of the river, and south of Jl. Jendral Sudirman and Jl. Raya Cibeureum.
 * Leuwi Panjang bus terminal, Cibaduyut shoes centre, Festival Citylink, Kopo, ...
 * Northwest Bandung: Cipaganti/Cihampelas Area, and everything west and north of that. Eastern border is the river.
 * Airport, Pasteur, Paris Van Java, Ciumbeleuit, Ciwalk, Setiabudi, ...
 * Gsarwa (and others, of course), what do you think about this division? I can try to prepare a map, once boundaries are somewhat clear. --ErwinFCG (talk) 10:47, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

 * First, many streets in Bandung are not straight and not as a grid, so it is difficult to make boundaries among 'districts'. There are no clear 'district' in Bandung, since colonial era. But old Bandung, can easy to recognize with street names, such as river name: Cisangkuy, Cilaki, etc, wayang name: Kresna, Bima, etc, fruit name: Mangga, Duku, etc. Expanded Bandung is not organized well, but some of it can be recognized with street name also, such as Sukaluyu area or Sukasenang area. So make streets as boundaries of a 'district' maybe helpful, if we know exactly every area in Bandung.

 * Talking 'district' in Bandung below, I think is too much. So, maybe combination of proposed 'district' above and below should be combined. But tourists needed should be accomodated.

 * I propose:
 * West which Husein Airport is located
 * Northwest: Cipaganti, Cihampelas, Sukajadi, Setiabudhi and also Surya Sumantri and Setrasari (so north of Wastukencana and north of Terusan Pastuer and certainly Terusan Pasteur itself)
 * North: Dago, Upper Dago, Riau and Gedung Sate area (Northwest area and North area are full with hotels and restaurants and factory outlets)
 * East
 * Central and South Central
 * Southwest
 * Southeast (South Central, Southwest and Southeast can be combined as South only due to there are no special interest for tourist there, especially for foreign touristsGsarwa (talk) 14:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you Gsarwa. If I compare your proposal (including combining South Central, Southwest and Southeast) to mine, I think the main difference between our proposals is that you split my 'Northwest' into two districts: West and Northwest. I think apart from the airport, West would not include many points of interest. What do you think? I think I will try to prepare a map anyway, because it will be easier to discuss based on a map with actual borders. --ErwinFCG (talk) 14:21, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

 * A first attempt at a map. I added a few key places and main roads to the map for orientation. --ErwinFCG (talk) 15:09, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Sorry, in your first map proposal, the yellow color is too much and maybe some Bandungers will laugh, because southern Bandung is south of the railway and south of Lingkar Selatan street is clearly south of Bandung.

 * Sorry too, if I cannot give imagine to you with my proposal, but I will added some streets for your correction.

 * First, we must settle North: Dago, Upper Dago, Riau and Gedung Sate area. East of Taman Sari, North of Wastukencana and Wastukencana itself, but only north of Riau and certainly Riau itself, West of Gasibu and Dipatiukur and Dipatiukur itself. At Diponegoro, west of Katamso intersection and at Riau until west of Gandapura intersection. It rather ridiculous, because we will get "L" shape, but it is main area for tourists.

 * Second, we must settle Northwest: Cipaganti, Cihampelas, Sukajadi, Setiabudhi and also Surya Sumantri and Setrasari. West of Tanansari, but easier to make border along Cikanpundung river to the north, so Rancabentang, Ciumbuleuit and Hegarmanah will be included. West and North borders, certainly Bandung borders itself. North of Terusan Pasteur and Terusan Pasteur itself and then the toll road as a border. So, Husein Airport and Pandu Cemetery will be in the west area.

 * To combine West and Nortwest area, certainly can, but both are separate area. It is difficult for tourists from Terusan Pasteur to Husein Airport, because one way direction applied, median street at Terusan Pasteur itself, traffic jams in both direction of Terusan Pasteur and maybe face to small roads (Jalan Tikus), if we don't want to use big road.

 * I think, if we can settle the two or three area above first, the rest will be easier. It is better to add also the railways, because the Trans Studio certainly in the south area. Southern Bandung area will be a huge area, but it is not tourists area.Gsarwa (talk) 06:06, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you Gsarwa. I have updated the map based on your suggestions. South is now everything south of the railway, except for the part that is the city centre. I have also added the railway itself and more roads, to make the map easier to understand. For the border between North and Northwest, I have done as you said. West and Northwest are still combined, becase a separate district West would be very small (only the part between Pasteur and the railway, so practically only the airport. For the border between North and East, I have also followed more or less as you said, except I have not used the Riau/Gandapura intersection, but the Riau/Lombok intersection. I think it is not necessary to make the L-shape because it is the main area for tourists, because making districts is not about putting all main areas for tourists in the same district. I hope it starts to look like something you can agree with! --ErwinFCG (talk) 10:03, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Based on the content that's already in the article, it's not totally obvious that districting is needed, but I'm assuming that you plan on adding a good deal of content, correct? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:41, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Yes, I have started to update all listings so they are in line with the Manual of Style (including geotagging). Once that is done (and preferably once districts have been separated) I plan to start adding additional listings (especially also See and Do). --ErwinFCG (talk) 14:43, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

 * I agree with your busy jobs, but maybe some improvements will make it better. It doesn't matter that you pull the border to Lombok-Riau intersection, so KFC and Gudeg Banda will be still included in North/Dago-Riau area. I don't know exactly the border of Southwest and Southeast of Bandung. But I think grey color of left and right of purple color in your proposal are still Bandung area. Pahlawan, Cicaheum and Cibiru are in the east, but Gedebage some people say is in the east some people say is in the south. To make it as all South is OK, but Bandungers usually still say it as West and East. I hope my comment is not bother you.Gsarwa (talk) 16:32, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Hi Gsarwa, your comments do certainly not bother me. Together we can make this travel guide better :). You are right, I made a mistake with Gedebage. It is now included. Other grey areas are outside Kota Bandung. Of course, listings (e.g. restaurants or sights) that are just outside of Kota Bandung can still be listed in the district articles (for example, Kopo Square can be listed in South Bandung, even though it is in kec. Margahayu, kab. Bandung).
 * Whether Gedebage is South Bandung or East Bandung does not really matter I think, but it seems the most clear to use the railway as the border. If you want Gedebage as part of East Bandung, where do you think the border between South and East is? And apart from that, are there other things about the map that you think should be changed? --ErwinFCG (talk) 09:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Previously, Bandung is only a small town with population less than 1 million. The old of Bandung area is also small, but after several expansion, I think nowadays Bandung city area becomes more than twice. So, old Bandungers only know abouth North and South of Bandung. Nowadays Pusdai is located in old Cihaurgeulis Market and behind the old market before is paddy fields. Sukaluyu, Sukasenang and Antapani is new area, Surya Sumantri and Setra Sari is also same, but Sukajadi and Setiabudhi have already exist. Certainly there are no toll road before. If I don't mistaken all of south of Lingkar Selatan is outside Bandung previously. So, if South and East Bandung area in the propose map nowadays are large, because both area are relatively new in historical age and built in post 1970. Relatively no tourist attraction there, except Trans Studio. Tourist area is only in North Bandung as prime area and is followed by Northwest area as the second. In map, it is better to put Unpar, Unpad and Maranatha as a landmark position due to Bandung is still a 'student city' and Tubagus Ismail area is prime area for kost-kost-an (but I think it is not necessarry to put Tubagus Ismail in the map). Trans Studio, certainly should be included in the map, beside of Ciwalk and Paris van Java.Gsarwa (talk) 13:45, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Gsarwa. I have added PVJ, Ciwalk, Trans Studio and a few other blue dots to the map. Apart from ITB, I think the other universities are not travel destinations. Same for Tubagus Ismail: that there are many student dorms (I also lived in a student dorm there) does not mean it is a tourist attraction. Is the map okay now? --ErwinFCG (talk) 15:42, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

 * That's good job, I appreciated. I think it is ready to launch. If, there are any lacks, it can be improved later.Gsarwa (talk) 13:47, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

Districts based on discussion above
Based on the discussion above I would like to implement the districts as follows. If there are no further comments, I will do so later this week. --ErwinFCG (talk) 10:16, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

 * @ErwinFCG Simpicity at mind, maybe from we could add West bandung to cover the western part (around Cimahi) and the missing south part. Veracious (talk) 08:28, 9 August 2023 (UTC)

The Greater Bandung Metropolitan Area (Bandung Raya) has a population of more than 8 million, and extends well beyond the city of Bandung (Kota Bandung). The city of Cimahi in the west is Bandung's largest suburb. For travellers, the surroundings of Lembang in the north and Ciwidey in the south are among the highlights of Greater Bandung.

Districts
In this page, Bandung is divided into unofficial districts that are used mainly for traveling purposes only. The districts below are listed from top to bottom, from left to right.

Wikipedia-style train schedule plus country-wide train advice
I've moved this here from the article, so that people can glean useful, pertinent information from it, without it taking up space:

Unlike other countries, Indonesia does not use numbers for their train service. As a rule of thumb, the highest standard will be given by 'Argo' class train.

 * 1) BD =, KAC =.
 * 2) Exe = executive class, Bus = business class, Eco = economy class.

Note: Economy class is not air conditioned and are not recommended. Business class is also not air conditioned, also not recommended, use it only if you cannot get the executive class. Executive class is comfortable and air conditioned.

 * 1) Duration is total duration from end to end station.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:36, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

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please plunge forward. (WT-en) Siung99 12:03, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

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Talk:Baneshwar

Hmm, I can't tell from a quick google if this is a destination or not (per Project:What is an article?). One site mentioned that "Accomidations" are available, but that might have meant in the area and not actually at this destination. Perhaps this is better off as a Get Out from Pune? (WT-en) Majnoona 08:20, 5 April 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Banff

Image issue
The image appears on the official destination website at http://www.pc.gc.ca/lhn-nhs/ab/caveandbasin/natcul/index_E.asp Three questions: (WT-en) Texugo 00:21, 7 November 2008 (EST)
 * Do we have the right to reproduce it here?
 * We don't usually use artwork to represent a destination. Is there any reason to make an exception here?
 * Why can I not find the image in our system? I clicked on it to look for copyright info, etc. but it tells me the file doesn't exist, both here and on the shared version.

the train pic
there is nothing describing what were seeing the photo could someone give it a title? --(WT-en) Norvak 15:53, 23 December 2008 (EST)

Major Destination for Routebox?
Is there any support to have Banff treated as a major destination in the Trans-Canada routeboxes between Calgary and Kamloops? I think it should, the main reason being it is an important tourist destination -- it gets as many visitors as Calgary and Edmonton do. (WT-en) Shaund 00:02, 24 December 2008 (EST)
 * The national park or the town? (WT-en) Texugo 00:59, 24 December 2008 (EST)
 * Good question. I was referring to the town since that is where the routebox is right now. I haven't put one in the park since it gets a bit complicated -- both Banff (the town) and Lake Louise, are within Banff NP itself, and I haven't figured out a sequence that works from all directions (e.g., the route could be set up to go Banff NP --> Banff --> Lake Louise, which works from Calgary, but not from Vancouver). For now, EE and I have put the routeboxes in the towns and ignored the park. I guess we could also put one routebox in the park and leave Banff town and Lake Louise without routeboxes. (WT-en) Shaund 01:45, 24 December 2008 (EST)
 * I was thinking about just this case when I made the policy page. I think the towns should have routeboxes definitely, and I think it's ok to make a routebox for the park page which is ignored by other pages and which only points to destinations outside the park. But as to whether Banff town should be considered a major destination, I don't really have an opinion. (WT-en) Texugo 02:04, 24 December 2008 (EST)
 * That could do, thanks. I'll see what EE thinks about Banff as a major destination. (WT-en) Shaund 02:10, 24 December 2008 (EST)

Breadcrumbs
Since the town of Banff is in Banff National Park, shouldn't the breadcrumbs include the park? In other words, Alberta Rockies > Banff National Park > Banff ? --Country Wife (talk) 22:00, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

Town of Banff, NOT Banff National Park
Some things listed in this article (e.g. Ice Explorer trip) are not within the very small boundaries of the Town of Banff, but refer to things in Banff National Park. (In fact, Columbia Icefields and the Ice Explorer are in Jasper National Park.) Any content about things that are not in the town, or very close to it should be moved to the Banff National Park article, Lake Louise article, etc. as appropriate. The listing of the three ski areas is okay, even though only Norquay is close to the town, because skiers for Norquay, Louise, and Sunshine usually stay in Banff and all 3 ski areas run several daily scheduled shuttles to Banff and back during ski season.Country Wife (talk) 19:43, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I have moved them out. The park articles could also do with some work. --Traveler100 (talk) 14:27, 6 December 2014 (UTC)

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Back in 86, Canada day(july 1) fire works were cancelled because of snow. It was quite weird. 20C during the day, below 0 at night.

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Talk:Bangalore

Is it time to districtify Bangalore?
This article is quite long, and the number of listings seems to have outgrown the article. Do you think it is time to divide this big, important city into separate district articles? I have never been to Bangalore, so I couldn't help decide how to districtify, but maybe it's time for those of you who do know the city to have a discussion and figure that out. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:41, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I don't think the article required district-ication instead its because of plenty of listings under Buy, Eat, Drink and Sleep sections that make the article long. The sections needs trimming instead because it look like a directory and I think worth to mention listings should be kept only. On the other hand, I'm going to remove the guide status template even though the article have plenty of good information a guide article should have because of style templates being used in the article. I think we're not supposed to show guide status template and style templates at the same time. --Saqib (talk) 09:49, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree on downgrading this to Usable because of the style templates. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:58, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * That Eat section, with its headings... :P ϒpsilon (talk) 19:13, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Those who go to one part of Bangalore do not connect with other parts because of the hopeless traffic issues. So this is the right time to split Bangalore to five districts: Central, East, West, South and North. Prof tpms (talk) 11:06, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you propose boundaries for the districts in question? Also, how do you address Saqib's point above? Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:13, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Professor. Same is the case with Karachi — a mega city and much more bigger in size than Bangalore but we don't districity city articles based on such reasons you stated above. So lets first trim down the article as I said and then figure out whether we need to districtify Banglore or not. --Saqib (talk) 11:27, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Saqib is right. Trimming Eat and Buy sections is essential. I am thinking of trimming things given by myself when they look excessive in length. Buy sections of most cities are dominated by touts. Prof tpms (talk) 14:52, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

 * Go ahead. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

 * What do you all think now? Super-long. Trim and/or districtify? If any of you know the city, please cut uninteresting listings mercilessly. I also helped a little by deleting a bunch of car rental listings. I seriously doubt it's hard to find a rental car in such a major city, and a section with car rental listings certainly facilitates touting. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:03, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Any new thoughts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:33, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

 * Prof tpms, about how many listings would you expect there to be in each of the districts you had proposed to divide this city into? Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:34, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 20 items for eat, 20 items for sleep/budget, 20 items for buy . . I think this margin will make the pages more readable. Prof TPMS (talk) 01:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. Do you have specific boundaries in mind for all the districts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I think, we should not split Bangalore into districts even now. However, if we insist, we may at least divide the city into two districts: North and South. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 14:59, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * No-one is insisting, I think. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:09, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
 * As I am contributing to this article and several districts in Kolkata, it looks like Bangalore should be split into at least three districts: Bangalore/North, Bangalore/Central and Bangalore/South. Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 09:56, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Bangalore vs Bengaluru in 2014
Bangalore and Bengaluru co-exist currently with reference to the city since they are used interchangeably.

Although Bengaluru is official the city's name and most government bodies refer to Bengaluru - outsiders and even most locals still refer to Bangalore and not Bengaluru. Bengaluru is not yet in common usage like Mumbai which has largely superseded Bombay in daily usage. —The preceding comment was added by Rld (talk • contribs)

 * Excellent information, thanks. Wikivoyage's policy is to call cities by the name that is most commonly used in English, which in many cases (e.g., Roma, Moskva, Yerushalayim, Köln) is not the same as the official name. So as long as Bangalore is the name that's more commonly used by English speakers, we should not change the name of this article and should use it in Wikivoyage links from other articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:38, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

 * I'd note that the names are being used interchangeably in the article, with a preference for Bengaluru. That's incorrect. Except for proper names that use the official name, all other instances of the name should be spelled Bangalore as long as that's the article's title. Anyone who'd like to spend time cleaning up more of the article should please do so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:04, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

 * I've taken care of this, and it took a while because it's not appropriate to do a global search and replace, as "Bengaluru" is used in many proper names of listings. However, whenever it's determined that the official spelling has gained enough currency, a global search and replace for the British spelling would be easy and have few exceptions. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:41, 27 May 2018 (UTC)

[unindent] Same now in 2019? Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:04, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Speaking as someone who's not very familiar with India, I think I see "Bengaluru" more often nowadays. It seems "Bangalore" is starting to go the way of "Bombay". —Granger (talk · contribs) 22:41, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

Separate Airport Article
There seems to be a lot of content for Kempegowda International Airport. Would it be OK to split it off? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:30, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
 * The section isn't that long, but I'm sure it could be added to by someone who knows the airport well. According to the article, "The airport, open since May 2008, is among India's busiest and most modern." The only other questions would be how big is it and how complicated is it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:30, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

 * I was thinking that the airport itself wasn't too long, but the 'connect' information ran to a few pages. In any case I will be there next month so I will check it out first :) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:07, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

"Other important bus stands"
I removed the following text from the bus section, mostly because it doesn't provide much help to the traveler. If it can be worked out to provide better context then perhaps it can be returned:

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Other important bus stands are:

 * BTM Layout, South East
 * Banashankari, South
 * Basaveshwara Nagar, West
 * Chandra Layout, West
 * Domlur, East
 * Hebbal, North
 * Jayanagar, South
 * Kadugodi, East
 * Koramangala', South
 * Malleswaram, North West
 * Rajarajeshwari Nagar , South West
 * Shantinagar, Central
 * Shivajinagar, Central
 * Srinagara, South West
 * Vidyaranyapura, North
 * Vijaynagar, West
 * Yelahanka, North
 * Yeshwantpur, North West

Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:27, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Shopping
I removed the following mall list for now, since apart from giving the general location it gives no reason why one should it

 * The Forum (Koramangala)
 * The Forum value mall (Whitefield)
 * Orion Mall (Rajajinagar)
 * Garuda Mall (Magrath Road)
 * Mantri Square (Malleshwaram)
 * Phoenix Market City (Whitefield Road)
 * UB City (Vittal Mallya Road)
 * Lido Mall (Ulsoor)
 * Gopalan Innovation Mall (Bannerghatta Road)
 * Gopalan Mall (Mysore Road)
 * Royal Meenakshi Mall (Bannerghatta Road)
 * Bengaluru Central (Residency Road, Jayanagar 9th block and Outer Ring Road, Be)
 * Sigma Mall (Cunningham Road)
 * Poorva Mall (Old Madras Road)
 * Mega Mall (Vyalikaval)

--Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:56, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

Uncategorized restaurant listing
This somewhat touty restaurant listing was in none of the price sections (Budget, Mid-range, Splurge). If someone feels like doing the required research, please edit the listing accordingly and put it in the right subsection. Otherwise, since we already have too many listings...

Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:16, 26 December 2014 (UTC)

We have guests from India
Please see User talk:Ikan Kekek. These new users are students at Christ University in Bangalore. They're brand new at this site, had a rough start at first (see that user talk link), and may have limited command of English. If any of them ask for your help or make mistakes, please do your best to be helpful and patient. User:Titodutta would appear to be their instructor or representative, so s/he is probably the best liaison for us if we need to contact a student who may have missed an edit summary or user talk post. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:11, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Wow, looks like a class of 9 getting involved :) There is recent precedence for this with the Ansan that has developed into a detailed article after a few lessons learned. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:30, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Yes, our new Korean members have done very well. Several other articles about South Korea have also recently been created or improved. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * By the way, I believe I count 14 among the class. :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:36, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Warm welcome to them! Perhaps someone should create some kind of template (could be useful also for future visits by school classes) to put on the student's user pages. Otherwise admins who may look at the Recent changes later today and don't notice this discussion may think it's a case of pcv. ϒpsilon (talk) 12:12, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * I did at first. But all admins should pay close attention to new threads in the Pub. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:29, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the notification! JarrahTree (talk) 12:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
 * Sure. Please contact me if needed. :) --Titodutta (talk) 16:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * This is indeed a way in which WV can be grown! Have fun! Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:18, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

 * Great. Welcome. See India_Expedition for some things that need doing, or choose your own. If you like history, articles like Mughal Empire, British Raj or On the trail of Kipling's Kim might be of interest. Pashley (talk) 22:05, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Pollution levels
City of burning lakes: experts fear Bangalore will be uninhabitable by 2025 Pashley (talk) 15:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Traffic campaign
Hindu “God of Death” Hired by Police to Scare People Without Helmets Pashley (talk) 01:38, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding a new hotel listing
Hello Ikan Kekek,

First and foremost, I would like to apologize for using a form of touting in the description of Conrad Bengaluru's listing. That was not my intention. (reverted changes for reference: https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=Bangalore&diff=4068584&oldid=4068568).

I was hoping we could discuss the listing inclusion to the Sleep section in the article under "Splurge". There are only two Conrad properties in India and I believe we could enrich the article, by listing the one in Bengaluru. Please find below the updated content for it:

"The hotel has 285 guestrooms, 4 restaurants, a spa, pool and fitness center. A grand ballroom is available."

I do hope the above meets Wikivoyage's guidelines and again - my sincere apologies for causing you trouble. —The preceding comment was added by 46.237.99.140 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 * I think this is reasonable. The new listing, with suggested wording and some small changes of my own to fit with our style would be:

 * Assuming everything is as I understand it (that this was the first attempt at touting, and the above represents a good faith effort to abide by the rules), I'd be happy to reinsert it into the article. If the hotel employee would be kind enough to wait a few more hours in case there are any dissenting opinions, I should think one of us will add the listing.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Looks OK to me. 46.237.99.140, keep in mind that no individual sets policy here. Wikis like this one set policy and guidelines by consensus. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Bangalore has way too many places of worship
Similar to what I mentioned in Talk:Jaipur, there's just waaaay too many listings that violate wv:worship. Based on my experience in Kerala and as someone who has nothing to do with any religion, I wouldn't want to go to more than two temples, whilst five is probably the max. Which ones should be removed? If no comments, I'll paste the entire list here and randomly choose which ones should be removed. -- SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

 * I don't think you should assume all 21 (30, whatever) are not worthwhile to visit. My reaction, having skipped through the other sections with listings, is that this article seems like an excellent candidate for districting. Also, it's an absurd idea that a huge city should have only 5 places of worship listed. You'd do that in Rome, Paris, Tokyo? So why in Bangalore, whose population is over 8 million per Bangalore? Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:32, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would do that per wv:worship (the difference is that Rome, Paris and Tokyo are all districtified, but even if, only those that are architecturally significant should be listed, otherwise removed). Otherwise, these can go in the #Cope section if anyone is willing to do that.
 * But I have to question, taken from wv:worship: Would anybody visit these temples for reasons unrelated to religion and if so, which reason would that be? SKCON Hare Krishna Temple or Maha Bodhi Society Temple just seem two ordinary temples that don't seem architecturally nor historically significant.
 * I apologise if I seem to be very harsh on wv:worship and in enforcing it, but as an ordinary irreligious traveller, I would like to visit those that as the question says, for reasons unrelated to religion – not a list of every place of worship. To avoid ending my message in negativity, have a look at Cooch Behar, it used to have lots of temples listed, now after it's been cut down, if I ever go there, I know which ones are the ones that an ordinary traveller unrelated to that religion would want to visit. If there's someone who knows Bangalore well, perhaps a travel topic can be created, similar to Places of worship in Singapore, a guide level travel topic which gives reasons and explanations on why I'd want to go there. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:57, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Rome has probably over 100 churches that are well worth visiting for a non-Christian because of architectural merit and/or good art inside. Selectivity is needed, but a limit of 5 per district is violently wrong for the world headquarters of Roman Catholicism. Indian cities are huge and likely to have many temples that are worthwhile to visit for similar reasons. Mosques, too. And sometimes, it's interesting to visit a place of pilgrimage to take in the atmosphere and respectfully observe the behavior of the pilgrims. That's mainly why I consider it worth briefly listing the Santuario in Pompeii. All that said, I looked at images of Maha Bodhi and ISKCON in Bangalore, and I think you have a point that neither is that interesting to me architecturally, but I don't think we should rush to delete such listings, as the number of listings in the "See" section is not obviously disproportionate to the number of listings in other sections, and maybe districting would be more appropriate than deletions in a lot of cases. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. After districtifying, if some district has ten beautiful and religiously important temples and ten dull ones of the same denominations, serving only the locals, then we should probably delete the latter ten, but if the only temple in some neighbourhood is an insignificant one, we might want to list it to the benefit of a traveller who doesn't have the time to go elsewhere, or has visited umpteen of the important ones and really would not mind the experience of a simple one. –LPfi (talk) 16:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't think we should only limit it to places of worship that are architecturally interesting. Sometimes, people might want to visit a place just to observe the locals performing their religious rites and soak in the atmosphere. Like say, the Wong Tai Sin Temple in Hong Kong. In terms of architecture, it is just an ordinary, albeit large, Chinese temple, but it is the most popular temple in Hong Kong for the locals to perform their divination rituals, which in and of itself makes it an interesting place to visit. The dog2 (talk) 17:08, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes. After districtifying, if some district has ten beautiful and religiously important temples and ten dull ones of the same denominations, serving only the locals, then we should probably delete the latter ten, but if the only temple in some neighbourhood is an insignificant one, we might want to list it to the benefit of a traveller who doesn't have the time to go elsewhere, or has visited umpteen of the important ones and really would not mind the experience of a simple one. –LPfi (talk) 16:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Also, I don't think we should only limit it to places of worship that are architecturally interesting. Sometimes, people might want to visit a place just to observe the locals performing their religious rites and soak in the atmosphere. Like say, the Wong Tai Sin Temple in Hong Kong. In terms of architecture, it is just an ordinary, albeit large, Chinese temple, but it is the most popular temple in Hong Kong for the locals to perform their divination rituals, which in and of itself makes it an interesting place to visit. The dog2 (talk) 17:08, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

"By plane" section
We have an article about Kempegowda International Airport now, so the "By plane" section is an easy place to delete detailed information. I'd suggest keeping only the listing, removing some details from it like the following:

"They share the same building, but are on different sides - the domestic gates are on the west side while the larger international gates are to the east. There are ATMs, bureaux de change, two units of Cafe Coffee Day and other cafés, duty-free shops, restaurants, and day hotels at the airport. When departing from the airport, make sure to check restrictions on times for baggage check-in, and make sure to bring a printout of your boarding pass with you to the airport."

The sections about airlines and ground transportation should be replaced with "See the Kempegowda International Airport article for details on x, y and z". Agreed? Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:58, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Bangalore/Koramangala

Koramangala is in Bangalore.

Get in
It is located adjacent to the Madivala Bus stop, or you can get down at Forum mall/ St. John's Hospital. From Majestic/Bangalore City Railway stn. there are a number of buses, most frequent being 356C. From M.G. Road you can take an auto, or G2/G3 buses, starting from the Brigade road stop. Sony World Crossing is another important junction in this area, which can be reached from Domlur/Indiranagar very easily.

See
There are various shopping malls as well as a large number of popular and fine-dining restaurants, eateries. Forum mall is very famous and sort of a nerve cantre of the area. It has the PVR Cinema hall as well as KFC, McDonalds, Pizza Hut restaurants. Landmark book shop is one of the biggest books/magazines outlet. Crosswords is also located near the Masjid, near Aiyappa Swamy temple, Madiwala.

The Koramangala Indoor Stadium, at the National Games Village (NGV) is an important landmark. St.Johns Hospital and College, Jyoti Nivas College and the Indian Institute of Astrophysics are the major educational insitutes of the area.

Do
There are various Cafes and resaurants all over the area. Costa Coffee, Barista and CCD have their presence near Maharaja Hotel. Young working people spend a lot of their time here. You can get a truly multi national multi cultural feeling as there are several restaurants serving Spanish, Italian, Thai, Chinese, Indian, Mexican food. Hence, it is really popular with expatriates.

The area around Jyoti Nivas college is a popular hangout for the college going crowd, with a lot of eateries and cafes in the area. This area has a very hip/ fashionable feel to it.

The Koramangala Club has sports faciliies including Tennis Courts. You can join the Swimming club at the NGV.

There are dense tree lined streets as well as well maintained parks, so get out and discover your own patch of greenery. The homes are very well designed and tasteful, its very apparent that this is a posh location. It is a really nice and cosy place to stay. There are offices of various IT companies also. Wipro, Verisign, Symantec to name a few.

Buy
Do your wardrobe shopping at Lifestyle mall at Sony World Junction. Has a really good and fashionable collection of all major brands. There's a huge cosmetics secion at the ground floor. The PolyNation food court seems to have closed down, but it was a really nice place with a huge multi-culutural, multi-national selection.

The Croma electronics showroom is situated right opposite to Lifestyle mall. eZone, Reliance Digital, Pai, SONY, Panasonic etc. electronics showrooms are all located within the kilometre from here. So this is the ideal location if you want to do a survey before making your next expensive LCD/LED tv purchase.

You can do your grocery at Nature's Basket or Spar, Spencers, More, FoodWorld, options are huge, all on the 80ft Road. At the 1st block you can find grocery shops more suited for the local residents, if you want it the traditional way!

Eat
The 80 ft. Road is the Eat Street of Koramangala. PizzaHut, Domino's, KFC, Taco Bell, Au Bon Pain are all to be found over here! There are various other resaurants serving local/ Indian cuisine. Chandni Chowk is one great opition if you like the rural Punjabi dhaba ambience.

Wisdom Cafe, near the AlienWare showroom is a really cosy place o have some snacks or lunch. So is the Hole in The Wall cafe, located on the back street behind Maharaja Hotel. Serves great coffee and English breakfast. So does Cafe Terra, near Wipro park crossing. Adjacent to it is a really popular food join called Little Home. Serves nice North Indian style food at a very reasonable price.Is really popular with the young working populace. Naturals Ice cream parlour is a hit with the hip crowd, on weekend nights you may find queues outside.

Drink
Cafes already mentioned above. Legend's of Rock is located near the Pizza Hut on 80 ft. Road. Also great is the Jimi's Beer Cafe nearby, has a really nice ambience. Firangi Paani at Forum Mall is a nice but expensive option.

Sleep
Numerous Service apartments exist in and around the area, most on the expensive side though. Notable are the Mango suites, Mercure Grand, Lotus suites, Royal Orchid etc. Cheaper opions exist near the JNC college and 1st block.

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