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User talk:(WT-en) Bill Ellett

Welcome
Hello, Bill Ellett! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Thanks for your edits to Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 20:36, 16 July 2010 (EDT)

 * A thanks from me too for your work on the UNESCO list. You are doing really great work—I hope you stick around ;) --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:13, 24 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Thanks for the updated to United States National Parks. I was actually the original author of the article many years ago, and didn't realize how much things had changed, so many thanks for bringing it up-to-date. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 00:57, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Thanks for the encouragement. I'm finding a good many sites which are not from US Nat. Parks Service which I am trying to add systematically, following the guidelines from the discussion page as well as what is already listed. For example, no national forests. Plus just the changes that happen over time. Everything on the page is federal. After I finish these updates, I'm going to suggest a couple of changes, not sure what yet, either adding subdivisions under the states or breaking out some sites to different pages. We have parks, regions, and iteneraries mixed together. For example, Appalachian Trail is not a "park" in the traditional sense, though it is extremely important to capture in our pages. I'll move to the nat. parks discussion page when I figure out what I'm suggesting, next week. (WT-en) Bill in STL 11:49, 30 July 2010 (EDT)

And a thanks from me too -- great to see others working on the UNESCO list as well! (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:48, 1 August 2010 (EDT)

Searching
Hi, Bill. Saw your note on Peter's talk page; hope you don't mind if I take a stab at replying. Honestly, the search function on most wikis is pretty limited; in many cases, you're actually better off going to Google and doing a search using "site:wikivoyage.org" (to limit the results to pages on this wiki). That said, most of our navigation here on the site is done via links, moreso than by searching. We take great care to make sure all destinations are linked to the next-higher level in our geographic hierarchy, which means you can find just about any place by starting at the top and working your way down. It may take a little longer, but it's kinda how the site has evolved.

Hope that helps!

-- (WT-en) LtPowers 13:33, 26 July 2010 (EDT)

Feedback
Hi Bill - saw your note on my talk page and I'll take another look at Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site and respond fully as soon as I get a chance, probably tomorrow evening - unfortunately I'm on the road for business right now and don't have time for much beyond an occasional quick perusal of Special:Recentchanges. If you'd like quicker feedback you can try posting a request for feedback in the Pub - sometimes that elicits dozens of useful suggestions, and other times everyone is busy and there aren't any responses; it's kind of a crapshoot.

Beyond that particular article, thanks for all you've done. It would be great if every new user was like you - taking the time to read the various policy pages and discuss issues on talk pages is very much appreciated, and the edits you've made have in general been terrific. There has been occasional discussion over the past couple of years about re-vamping our policy pages, so if you have suggestions about how to better organize things or make things clearer please keep notes, and perhaps we combine everyone's suggestions into a Project:Collaboration of the month with the goal of improving the site's documentation. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 00:43, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

 * I made a couple of minor copyedits to Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site and added some comments at Talk:Cahokia Mounds State Historic Site. I changed "free" to "Free" in the listing tags since that ends up being a single-word sentence in the article text, included the region in the opening sentence per standard Wikivoyage practice, and changed a few special characters to HTML entities to ensure they render properly in all browsers.  Overall the article looks great - nice work! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 22:23, 3 August 2010 (EDT)

Geo Template
Despite more than five years of contributing to this site, I had no idea that the Geo template created a map link. Thanks for teaching me something new! Now we just need to figure out how to get it to display more prominently... -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:53, 6 August 2010 (EDT)
 * Geez, me neither. No wonder no one ever contacts docents; anything in that toolbox area just gets lost.  I agree that adding a link to the toolbox is not a very prominent way to display the map.  (WT-en) LtPowers 16:06, 6 August 2010 (EDT)

List of phrasebooks
I just finished adding the color codes to the phrasebooks, but I'm sure there was plenty of room for "typo"-style error. If you have a chance to take a look over it, to make sure that the colors match the actual status (particularly for the long Asia section), I predict that the article would benefit! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 01:31, 17 August 2010 (EDT)

St. Louis
Man, I'm really hoping to make it out there. It's been looking lately like I won't be able to get any real time off for myself until the slow-in-D.C. month of December, and that month may get used up by a trip to either Colombia (cheap flights!) or Sierra Leone (friend's villa). (It's a weird year, when Sierra Leone seems more likely than St. Louis...) I'm hoping to at least get out to New Orleans while I'm watching Tremé, but hopefully I'll get to do that full Mississippi River pilgrimage, which I'm still kicking myself for not having done when I lived in Chicago. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 21:55, 18 August 2010 (EDT)

Re: Images: Did I do it right?
It looks fine, Bill, but why did you upload such a tiny thumbnail? (WT-en) LtPowers 08:40, 19 August 2010 (EDT)
 * Oops, I got caught by the caching bug. You'd already uploaded the larger version by the time I replied to you, but I was still seeing the tiny version.  (WT-en) LtPowers 21:08, 20 August 2010 (EDT)

Thanks
Thanks for the ridiculous amount of cleanup you're doing! Also, I've seen many of the discussions you've started about templates and other issues and apologize for not personally responding to most of them - like many people, I'm often on this site merely to pop in, check recent changes, and then pop back out to whatever I was doing, which doesn't always provide the time to give a reasoned response. Feel free to *bump* any more urgent questions back on to the recent changes list by making a minor edit with the comment "*bump*" as it is a helpful way to let others know what issues are currently the most pressing. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 19:02, 24 August 2010 (EDT)

VfDs
Bill, I have just discovered that if you go to Category:VfD you get an automatic listing of all pages with the VfD tag. So when it is non-contentious there is perhaps no reason to add a page proposed for deletion to the Votes for Deletion page? (WT-en) Shep 03:28, 29 August 2010 (EDT)
 * Absolutely not; we don't routinely check the VfD category (which I only recently created anyway). (WT-en) LtPowers 21:59, 29 August 2010 (EDT)

Regions
I noticed that you updated the templates for Saint Martins Island and Mykonos to guideregion. However, those destinations are not regions and they are also listed as other destinations in their respective country articles (eventhough Mykonos is also (incorrectly) listed as a region in Cyclades article). I do not know how important this is, but it might be worth giving a thought if we should not restrict using the region template to "real" regions (ie regions with articles listing a number of cities/other destinations but without detailed listings in see/sleep etc), --(WT-en) ClausHansen 02:28, 3 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Those articles use (or should use) the city article template, and when assessing their status (usable, guide, star) we are using the guidelines for city articles. As I see it, that points in the direction of also marking them with the city templates, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 03:24, 3 September 2010 (EDT)

Gallery subarticle to Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Pinnacle
Hi Bill. I have removed the stub label you put in the gallery for Pinnacle dive site, as it is not a stub. See the discussions on the talk page for Pinnacle for reasons why a gallery was used. There isnt really a suitable status label for it as galleries are seldom used on WT for reasons argued on one of the policy pages, I forget which, but you will probably find it easily enough with a search. If the lack of a status label bothers you for any reason, it probably should be guide topic or thereabout, as it is part of a Star rated article. Feel free to discuss on the article's talk page if you like. Cheers, (WT-en) Peter (Southwood) Talk 10:51, 3 September 2010 (EDT)

Fixing template redirects
Hi, Bill. Just so you know, there's really no point to edits like this one. Template redirects are cheap and don't really affect server performance -- at least, no more than making the edit does. (WT-en) LtPowers 22:00, 14 September 2010 (EDT)

Barnstar

I don't envy you for taking on some really grungy tasks, but all of the cleanups you've been making are much appreciated. Barnstars are about the only semi-formal way we've got of saying "thanks" around here, so enjoy some virtual pixels for all of your hard work! -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 18:50, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Thanks! I'm having fun figuring out how to look for oddities and make them match the rules. -- (WT-en) Bill in STL 21:48, 24 September 2010 (EDT)

Disambiguation pages
Hi Bill. All your clean-up work is great and your effort is certainly very much appreciated, but could you please add the disambiguation pages you created to Project:Links to disambiguating pages so they are not orphaned, i.e. not linked from elsewhere on the site. It's also neat to have all disambiguation pages indexed conveniently somewhere (I guess you librarians are pretty strict on this :-). I've added a bunch yesterday and today (up to Brandenburg (disambiguation)) but I'm afraid of missing the odd one and you seem to be keep working on this. – (WT-en) Vidimian 06:28, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

 * I had added 316 missing pages to the Project:Links to disambiguating pages in the last couple of weeks and removed 50 which had been deleted, renamed, or otherwise no longer disambiguating. For my new ones, I was planning to wait until I had several to add at once, but will try to add daily. I have a list of 365 more potentially-new disambiguating pages to verify and add over the next few weeks between Bremen and Zurich (some names turn into merge or delete candidates or otherwise don't qualify, so it'll probably turn into about 200 pages actually added). Thanks. --(WT-en) Bill in STL 11:40, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

 * Ah, OK. I haven't check the revision history of that page and thought you might be unaware of its existence. No need to rush, then. – (WT-en) Vidimian 12:47, 27 September 2010 (EDT)

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User talk:(WT-en) Bill Ellett/sandbox

no ispartof/isin, and not in the list of topics, phrasebooks, or itineraries:
 * DONE Pages with travel topics template but apparently not listed at Travel topics page
 * DONE Pages listed at Travel topics page but apparently with NO travel topics template
 * DONE check for lists
 * DONE missing parkguide template?
 * DONE missing itinarary template?
 * DONE countries missing countryguide template
 * DONE May be missing from List of phrasebooks page
 * DONE missing appropriate itinerary STATUS template?
 * DONE traveltopics with no status
 * DONE city with guide instead of guidecity
 * DONE outline district not marked districtguide
 * DONE usable district not marked district, just usable
 * DONE Usable park just usable
 * DONE usable region just usable
 * DONE usable state just usable
 * DONE useable topic just usable
 * DONE: maybe topics, maybe missing ispartof template

 * DONE more need districtguide

usable city just usable
change usable to for these cityguides(if current template is true)

 * Dartmouth (Devon)
 * Deadhorse
 * Delmenhorst
 * Delta (Colorado)
 * Drumheller
 * Edwards AFB
 * Eugene
 * Exmouth (Western Australia)
 * Foulness Island
 * Fuji Five Lakes
 * Gedser
 * Geiranger
 * Gilimanuk
 * Gjøvik
 * Glenwood Springs
 * Ha'apai
 * Havelock (New Zealand)
 * Hongcun
 * Hotchkiss
 * Huayna Potosi
 * Hungerford
 * Hydra
 * Iznik
 * Janda Baik
 * Jember
 * Kabwe
 * Kamnik
 * Kannur
 * Kapan
 * Karawaci
 * Kavieng
 * Ki
 * Klungkung
 * Konark
 * Lund (British Columbia)
 * Madura
 * Mammoth Lakes
 * Medewi Beach
 * Mitzpe Ramon
 * Montague Island
 * Montego Bay
 * Moorcroft
 * Moray (Peru)
 * Morgan's Bay
 * Muck
 * Nafplion
 * Nagahama
 * Negara
 * Neu-Isenburg
 * North Reading
 * Oak Island
 * Ocean City (Maryland)
 * Onogawa Onsen
 * Palmarin
 * Panama City
 * Paternoster
 * Paynesville (Victoria)
 * Perugia
 * Pilsen
 * Popenguine
 * Port Blair
 * Pucallpa
 * Quanah
 * Quime
 * Rai Valley
 * Renwick
 * Râsnov
 * Salalah
 * San Andrés Tuxtla (Mexico)
 * Santillana del Mar
 * Seddon
 * Semporna
 * Shirabu Onsen
 * Skipton (Victoria)
 * Skopje
 * Solair Recreation League
 * South Hero
 * South San Francisco
 * Spokane
 * St Arnaud
 * St. Just in Penwith
 * Steamboat Springs
 * Stepanavan
 * Stevenson
 * Stony Stratford
 * Sucre
 * Sulmona
 * Taganga
 * Tanjung
 * Terre Haute
 * Thomastown
 * Tozeur
 * Tredegar
 * Treis-Karden
 * Tsitsikamma
 * Tsuyama
 * Tvøroyri
 * Tybee Island
 * Visakhapatnam
 * Voronezh
 * Ward
 * Warmun
 * Waterfront City
 * Westminster (California)
 * Wichita
 * Wiseman
 * Wonosobo
 * Woodland Hills
 * Wyndham
 * Yagen Valley
 * Zamboanga City
 * Øresund Coast

usable district just usable
These already have districtguide and usable, should be (if current template is true)

 * Athens/Plaka
 * Baltimore/Inner Harbor
 * Beijing/Chongwen
 * Beijing/Haidian
 * Beijing/Tongzhou
 * Beijing/Xicheng
 * Beijing/Xuanwu
 * Brooklyn/Downtown
 * Brooklyn/Prospect Park
 * Detroit/East Side
 * Detroit/Midtown-New Center
 * Edmonton/North
 * Edmonton/West End
 * Kuala Lumpur/Brickfields
 * Kuala Lumpur/Central
 * Kuala Lumpur/Golden Triangle
 * Kuala Lumpur/Tuanku Abdul Rahman
 * Kyoto/Arashiyama
 * Kyoto/North
 * Manchester/East Central
 * Melbourne/Carlton
 * Mexico City/Condesa and Roma
 * Mexico City/Polanco
 * Montreal/Cotes-des-Neiges
 * Montreal/Downtown
 * Montreal/Parc Jean-Drapeau
 * Montreal/Quartier Latin
 * Montreal/Sainte-Marie
 * Munich/City Center
 * Munich/Olympic area
 * Rome/North Center
 * Rome/Old Rome
 * Shanghai/Zhujiajiao
 * Singapore/Marina Bay
 * Sydney/City Centre
 * Sydney/City East
 * Sydney/Harbour Islands
 * Sydney/The Rocks
 * Tokyo/Bunkyo

Places with both isin/ispartof

 * Fayetteville (Arkansas)
 * Gaiole
 * Gorizia (province)
 * Incline Village
 * Isle of Bute
 * Kolain
 * Magnetic Island
 * Malvern (England)
 * Massarosa
 * Mercedes
 * Northern Ireland
 * Panamik
 * Panzano
 * Parque Nacional Ciénaga de Zapata
 * Pokhara
 * Pontal de Coruripe
 * Protaras
 * Qianwei
 * Regensburg
 * Roden
 * Sakon Nakhon
 * Slowinski National Park
 * Sorsogon
 * Verona (Ontario)
 * Wagin
 * Warsaw/Ursynów
 * Warsaw/Wilanów
 * Washington (Warren County, New Jersey)
 * Welshpool

Broken links to districts
These may be intentional

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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Angling Lake/Wapekeka Airport (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Aran//Villette (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Assuan/Qubbet al-Hawa (2 links)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Assuan/Sehel (2 links)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Athens/District A (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Athens/District B (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Athens/Museumlanddistrict (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Athens/Psirri (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Athens/Syntagma (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Atlanta/Old Fourth Ward (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Auckland/Newmarket (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Auckland/North Shore (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Auckland/North Shore/Devonport (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Auckland/Waitakere (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Austin/Oak Hill (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Austin/Pflugerville (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Austin/University of Texas (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Baltimore/Federal Hill (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bangalore/Pune (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bangkok/Airport (2 links)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bangkok/chiang mai (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bangkok/www.hqhostel.com (2 links)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Barcelona/Born (2 links)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Barcelona/Horta-Guinardó (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Barcelona/Les Corts (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Barcelona/Nou Barris (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Berlin/Unter den Linden (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Berlin/Wedding (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bordeaux/Les Quinconces (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Boston/Hyde Park (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Boston/Kenmore (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Boston/Mattapan (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Boston/Roslindale (1 link)
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 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Bozen/South Bolzano (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Brooklyn/Bedford Stuyvesant-Flatbush (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Brooklyn/Brighton Beach and Coney Island (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Brooklyn/Canarsie and East (1 link)
 * Special:Whatlinkshere/Brooklyn/Coney Island and Greater Brighton Beach (1 link)
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 * Aluva
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 * Bang Rak
 * Bankrut
 * Barry Island
 * Bearwood
 * Broughton Park
 * Bukit Bintang
 * Chora (Greece)
 * Cua Dai Beach
 * Dindigul
 * Fremont Street
 * Hammaslahti
 * Holbox
 * Infernetto
 * Ischia Porto
 * Kamatori
 * Kanata
 * Kommetjie
 * Laguna de Apoyo
 * Lanja
 * Llangennith
 * Magaluf
 * Metepec
 * Mount Coot-tha
 * Na'ama Bay
 * Nea Smyrni
 * Oyumino
 * PPTemplateBlacklist (? links)
 * Palm Key
 * Peoria (Arizona)
 * Playa Dorada
 * Prcanj
 * Prestwich
 * Qianqing
 * Queluz
 * Scheveningen
 * Sri Petaling
 * Torbay
 * Van Nuys
 * Vinegar Hill
 * Whitefield (England)
 * Willingdon Island
 * Xiazhou

cities with districts
Number of district articles shown for each
 * 9 Amsterdam
 * 1 Anaheim (not printdistricts)
 * 9 Athens (not printdistricts)
 * 20 Atlanta
 * 0 Auckland
 * 7 Austin
 * 9 Baltimore (not printdistricts)
 * 11 Bangkok
 * 4 Barcelona
 * 12 Beijing
 * 11 Beirut (not printdistricts)
 * 6 Berlin
 * 2 Bordeaux (not printdistricts)
 * 15 Boston
 * 8 Brooklyn (not printdistricts)
 * 2 Brussels (not printdistricts)
 * 3 Budapest
 * 13 Buenos Aires (not printdistricts)
 * 11 Cairo
 * 11 Charlotte
 * 2 Chennai (not printdistricts)
 * 21 Chicago
 * 1 Chikballapur (not printdistricts)
 * 3 Cleveland (not printdistricts)
 * 5 Columbus (not printdistricts)
 * 10 Copenhagen (not printdistricts)
 * 4 Dalian (not printdistricts)
 * 12 Dallas (not printdistricts)
 * 6 Detroit
 * 7 Edinburgh
 * 6 Edmonton
 * 7 Hong Kong
 * 5 Honolulu
 * 11 Houston (not printdistricts)
 * 8 Istanbul
 * 5 Jakarta (not printdistricts)
 * 5 Jerusalem (not printdistricts)
 * 2 Johannesburg (not printdistricts)
 * 11 Kaohsiung (not printdistricts)
 * 6 Kolkata
 * 13 Kraków
 * 9 Kuala Lumpur
 * 5 Kyoto (not printdistricts)
 * 9 Leeds (not printdistricts)
 * 28 London
 * 7 Los Angeles
 * 4 Luxor (not printdistricts)
 * 4 Macau (not printdistricts)
 * 7 Manchester
 * 15 Manhattan
 * 8 Manila (not printdistricts)
 * 14 Melbourne (not printdistricts)
 * 13 Mexico City
 * 15 Miami (not printdistricts)
 * 6 Minneapolis (not printdistricts)
 * 5 Monterrey (not printdistricts)
 * 16 Montreal
 * 7 Mumbai
 * 6 Munich
 * 11 New Orleans
 * 7 North Shore (New Zealand) (not printdistricts)
 * 8 Oklahoma City (not printdistricts)
 * 21 Paris
 * 2 Pattaya (not printdistricts)
 * 9 Perth (not printdistricts)
 * 1 Petaling Jaya (not printdistricts)
 * 8 Philadelphia
 * 7 Phoenix (not printdistricts)
 * 5 Pittsburgh
 * 18 Prague
 * 5 Providence (not printdistricts)
 * 6 Queens
 * 9 Richmond (Virginia) (not printdistricts)
 * 4 Rio de Janeiro
 * 1 Rockingham (Vermont) (not printdistricts)
 * 10 Rome
 * 8 San Diego
 * 14 San Francisco
 * 4 San Juan (not printdistricts)
 * 1 San Salvador (not printdistricts)
 * 3 Santiago de Chile (not printdistricts)
 * 11 Seattle
 * 7 Seoul (not printdistricts)
 * 16 Shanghai
 * 1 Sheffield (not printdistricts)
 * 10 Singapore
 * 1 Stockholm (not printdistricts)
 * 1 Swansea (not printdistricts)
 * 33 Sydney
 * 27 São Paulo
 * 5 Taipei  (not printdistricts)
 * 7 Tel Aviv (not printdistricts)
 * 4 Tijuana (not printdistricts)
 * 30 Tokyo
 * 31 Toronto
 * 7 Vancouver
 * 3 Venice (not printdistricts)
 * 1 Walt Disney World (not printdistricts)
 * 15 Warsaw (not printdistricts)
 * 12 Washington, D.C.
 * 1 Xiamen (not printdistricts)

Districts and their cities

 * Amsterdam
 * Amsterdam/Bijlmer
 * Amsterdam/Canal Ring
 * Amsterdam/East
 * Amsterdam/Jordaan
 * Amsterdam/North
 * Amsterdam/Old Center
 * Amsterdam/Plantage
 * Amsterdam/South
 * Amsterdam/West
 * Anaheim
 * Anaheim/Anaheim Hills
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These names appear to have multiple places with the same name but no disambiguation page. Don't add disamb page if there are two, and one is city while other is the state or region of that city. For example, don't need New York (disambig) just to take care of city and state. But if there is New York (australia) as well, then disamb is needed.

 * Amravati
 * Ancona
 * Andes
 * Andover
 * Antwerp
 * Aomori
 * Arcadia
 * Arezzo
 * Ascoli Piceno
 * Austin
 * Badlands
 * Bagalkot
 * Baja California
 * Balkh
 * Bamiyan
 * Bangladesh
 * Bantry
 * Baotou
 * Bari
 * Barrington
 * Basel
 * Batesville
 * Beer
 * Belgaum
 * Belguam
 * Bellevue
 * Bengkulu
 * Benton
 * Bentonville
 * Bergamo
 * Berryville
 * Bhojpur
 * Bijapur
 * Black Rock
 * Blanco
 * Boa Vista
 * Bocas del Toro
 * Boyacá
 * Brady
 * Brampton
 * Brandenburg
 * Brantford
 * Bremen
 * Bridgeville
 * Brindisi
 * Bristol County
 * Burbank
 * Cairo
 * Cambria
 * Campeche
 * Carlisle
 * Carson
 * Cascade Mountains
 * Castlegar
 * Central Plains
 * Centralia
 * Chamba
 * Champaign County
 * Chantilly
 * Chatham
 * Chepstow
 * Cherokee County
 * Chesapeake
 * Cheyenne
 * Chiba
 * Chieti
 * Chifeng
 * Chihuahua
 * Chikmagalur
 * Chitradurga
 * Christchurch
 * Chukha
 * Cicero
 * Ciego de Avila
 * Cienfuegos
 * Clay
 * Cochabamba
 * Coleman
 * Colima
 * Columbia County
 * Como
 * Concepción
 * Conwy
 * Corinth
 * Coteaus and Plains
 * Cottonwood
 * Cremona
 * Crosby
 * Córdoba
 * Damascus
 * Darjeeling
 * Devon
 * Dindigul
 * Disentis
 * Dixon
 * Djibouti
 * Doylestown
 * Dunedin
 * East Coast
 * Eastern Shore
 * Easton
 * Edgewood
 * Edinburgh
 * El Dorado
 * England
 * Esteli
 * Eureka
 * Evanston
 * Faget
 * Fairfield County
 * Fairmont
 * Fermo
 * Findlay
 * Fish Creek
 * Foggia
 * Franconia
 * Franklin Park
 * Fredensborg
 * Freiburg
 * Fukui
 * Fukuoka
 * Fukushima
 * Gao
 * Gardner
 * Ghat
 * Gifu
 * Goiás
 * Golden Bay
 * Gorizia
 * Granville
 * Great Lakes
 * Grenada
 * Grimsby
 * Grosseto
 * Guadalajara
 * Guanajuato
 * Hainan
 * Hamirpur
 * Hannibal
 * Harrison County
 * Hassan
 * Haworth
 * Hebron
 * Henderson
 * Hereford
 * Hillsboro
 * Hiroshima
 * Hohhot
 * Holmes County
 * Huelva
 * Hundested
 * Hunedoara
 * Huonville
 * Huron County
 * Ilanz
 * Imperial
 * Isfahan
 * Jackson Township
 * Jaen
 * Jambi
 * Jammu
 * Jasper
 * Jeju
 * Jericho
 * Jinotega
 * Kagoshima
 * Kalahari
 * Kangra
 * Kansas City
 * Karlsruhe
 * Kassala
 * Kavala
 * Kayes
 * Kearney
 * Kenilworth
 * Kerman
 * Kidal
 * Koulikoro
 * Krasnoyarsk
 * Kullu
 * Kumamoto
 * Kyoto
 * L'Aquila
 * Lake Forest
 * Lake Placid
 * Lakewood
 * Larissa
 * Latina
 * Laurel
 * Lazaro Cardenas
 * Leavenworth
 * Lecce
 * Lecco
 * Leh
 * Lewes
 * Lewis
 * León
 * Lhasa
 * Lhuentse
 * Lima
 * Linton
 * Livorno
 * Long Beach
 * Longview
 * Lucca
 * Luling
 * Lund
 * Lynchburg
 * Macerata
 * Magdalena
 * Malacca
 * Malmesbury
 * Mandi
 * Mandya
 * Manhattan
 * Matanzas
 * McHenry
 * Meriden
 * Minot
 * Miranda
 * Miyazaki
 * Mongar
 * Mopti
 * Moray
 * Morelia
 * Morón
 * Mount Olive
 * Mountain Home
 * Mérida
 * Nagano
 * Nagasaki
 * Nagoya
 * Namur
 * Nara
 * Nassau County
 * National Park Kongernes Nordsjælland
 * Navarre
 * New Brunswick
 * New Castle
 * New Philadelphia
 * New Providence
 * Newberg
 * Niigata
 * North Bay
 * North Bend
 * North Dakota
 * Northampton
 * Northern Coast
 * Northwest
 * Norway
 * Oakley
 * Oita
 * Okayama
 * Olsztyn
 * Oruro
 * Osaka
 * Oulu
 * Ozarks
 * Ozona
 * Padova
 * Panama City
 * Park Ridge
 * Parma
 * Paro
 * Peninsula
 * Pescara
 * Pinar del Rio
 * Pisa
 * Pistoia
 * Pondicherry
 * Port Arthur
 * Potosí
 * Prague
 * Prairies
 * Prato
 * Providencia
 * Puebla
 * Punakha
 * Puno
 * Qamdo
 * Qazvin
 * Qom
 * Querétaro
 * Queyras
 * Rabat
 * Randolph
 * Recas
 * Rhodes
 * Richland County
 * Ridgefield
 * Ridgeland
 * Rieti
 * Robbinsville
 * Rogers
 * Russellville
 * Rye
 * Saga
 * Saint Petersburg
 * Saitama
 * Salta
 * Salzburg
 * Samdrup Jongkhar
 * San Andrés
 * San Fernando
 * San Francisco
 * San José
 * San Luis
 * San Luis Potosi
 * San Rafael
 * Santa Cruz County
 * Santander
 * Santiago de Cuba
 * Sarnia
 * Sault Sainte Marie
 * Segovia
 * Seville
 * Sharjah
 * Shimla
 * Shimoga
 * Shizuoka
 * Siena
 * Sikasso
 * Snyder
 * Soest
 * Solan
 * Sondrio
 * South Bay
 * Southeast Tasmania
 * Southern
 * Southern Coast
 * Southwest
 * Sparta
 * St. Charles
 * St. Louis
 * Stafford
 * Stamford
 * Stanton
 * Stevensville
 * Stroud
 * Stutsman County
 * Stuttgart
 * Sucre
 * Sulphur Springs
 * Surfside
 * Suwalki
 * Sânnicolau Mare
 * Taranto
 * Tarija
 * Tasmania
 * Teramo
 * Texarkana
 * Thane
 * Thimphu
 * Thomasville
 * Timbuktu
 * Tlaxcala
 * Tochigi
 * Tokushima
 * Tokyo
 * Tottori
 * Toyama
 * Trashi Yangtse
 * Trashigang
 * Trieste
 * Trongsa
 * Tumkur
 * Two Harbors
 * Tübingen
 * Udine
 * Udupi
 * Utica
 * Varese
 * Ventnor
 * Veracruz
 * Victoria Falls
 * Vienna
 * Virginia City
 * Viterbo
 * Wakayama
 * Wales
 * Walnut Creek
 * Wanganui
 * Wangdue Phodrang
 * Warkworth
 * Warminster
 * Weimar
 * Wellfleet
 * Wellington
 * Wells
 * West Bend
 * Western Highlands
 * Whitby
 * Williston
 * Wrexham
 * Wuhai
 * Xigatse
 * Yamagata
 * Yamaguchi
 * Yazd
 * Yukon
 * Yushu
 * Zacatecas
 * Zurich
 * Ávila

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These are my notes (work in progress) of what I have distilled from the policies pages and wikivoyage talk pages.

There are exceptions, but generally:

status
Every article in MAIN namespace should have a status. Either star, star nomination, guide, usable, outline, or stub. Most obvious exception is Main page.

Articles with vfd or merge may or may not have a status or type. May not be worth adding if they are on the way out.

Redirect pages and disambiguation pages are also excluded from status or type.

The status templates "guide" and "usable" should be upgraded to templates such as usablecity, usableregion, usabletopic. This affects the text the user sees, so the generic ones are not as good.

Almost all pages in MAIN namespace have a staus. Since the status creates a category, ones which don't have a category will show up in the special pages:uncategorized pages.

type
Every article in MAIN namespace should have a type: Either district, city, region, state, country, continentalsection, continent, park, itinerary, topic, or phrasebook.

Articles with vfd or merge may or may not have a status or type. May not be worth adding if they are on the way out.

Redirect pages and disambiguation pages are also excluded from status or type.

About half of all wikivoyage pages do not have a type specified. Most of these are either cities or regions.

IsPartOf/IsIn
Every article for city, region, state, country, continentalsection, continent, or park, and many for itinerary, should either have isin or ispartof. Not required on distruct articles to get breadcrumbs, but probably desirable for external processing. Should not be on topic or phrasebook.

If a page does not have either isin or ispartof, and if it also does not have traveltopic template, then it is probably either an unidentified topic or it needs to have ispartof created.

How to identify problems for update
First download list of all articles with specific templates. These are all accessed from "special pages: most linked to templates" page, with easily selected link. Add "&limit=5000" to the url if there are lots of links, so you can get 5,000 at a time. Max supported is 5,000.

Second, edit file: remove any link which includes the text "redirect", or a colon. Colon means it is not in MAIN namespace.

Third, sort unique to remove duplicates from the list.

Now you have a list of articles in MAIN which have that template.

Then compare lists. For example, if page is listed in Guide and in Cityguide, then it should be changed to Guidecity and Cityguide. If it is in Usablecity but not in Cityguide or Districtguide, then add the seond template.

If pagename contains a slash, it is almost always a district. If it contins the word Phrasebook then it is almost always a phrasebook.

Before making changes, must look at the specific page oir pagename, but generally:
 * If template cityguide and name contains slash, change to districtguide for almost all cases.
 * If no Type template and name contiains a slash, add districtguide.
 * If no type and either guidecity or usablecity, then add either cityguide or districtguide (does it have a slash?).
 * if no type and either guideregion or usableregion, then add regionguide (remember, already took care of continents, states, continental sections).
 * Continue for each type/status combination.

 * Remember to set outlineitinerary or outlinephrasebook for those two types, all the other types are just "outline"

 * For the Guide, Usable, and Outline templates, first get the full list of pages. For guide and usable, if they also have a type template then change to usablepark, guidecity, or such. For outline, just remove them from your working copy of the list. Now look for slashes and add districtguide; look for phrasebook in title and add outlinephrasebook, etc. Almost the only things left are city, region, park, itinerary, and topic. Now read the list of page names. Topics generally pop out at you by name. Itineraries usually will also pop out. So all you have left are city, region, and park. Look at pagename for keyword like park or monument, and you'll get lots of parks, but not all. And beware of cities like Highland Park (Illinois) which is just waiting to catch you. By now, you'll have almost everything out of the list except cities and regions, and a few oddball pages.

Already done
I have tried manually to look and update all continent, continental section, country, and state pages so that they have the specific type template. Happily, these are not normally created new. So if it is bigger than a city and has no type template, then it is either a region or a park. This normally meant adding Countryguide to members of the United Nations, looking at the list of countries or continental sections we have on out continent pages, and list of countries on the continental section pages. Then updating templates on those countries as needed.

If you have something smaller than a region and it does not have a slash, then it is either a city or a park.

Traveltopic tend to be easily identified, usually just by reading the pagename.

Phrasebooks should all have "phrasebook" in the pagename. (of course there's the devengali exception). So search gogle for "intitle:phrasebook site:wikivoyage.org/en" to find the full list.

I took the "list of itineraries" page, "travel topics" page, and "list of phrasebooks" page, and extracted all the linked pages. Then matched those to the templates, and added or updated the templates as needed. I then compared the list of links to the list of pages with the traveltopics (etc) templates, and added missing pagenames to the list pages. However, we've found a batch more itineraries and topics since then so probably need to do this again soon.

countries
Proposed definition:
 * If member state of UN then it is a country.
 * If the area is considered by a good part of the world as a country, then it is. Vatican. Palestine.
 * If the area has friendly relations with another place, then compare closeness to Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico is not a country. Falkland Islands is not a country. But even though Canada has close relations with England, it is a country. What about Greenland?
 * If the area has unfriendly relations with somebody who claims it, then ask what the traveler should do. Who do you go to for a visa? Who runs the border crossings? Who runs the police dept? Who collects the taxes? The politicion may have all sorts of ideas but what is the effect on the traveler. It should also be stable. In some cases the political world still hasn't accepted countries who declared independence 20 years ago, but for the traveler, they are successful "countries".

districts
There are a number of articles with slash but first word is "diving in". These of course are not districts. There are also a few other oddballs, such as cityname/Archive or cityname/deleted_listings.

There were some pages which have districtguide template but pagename has no slash. Most of these turned out to be cites, and were changed to cityguide. Some are districts, and some are who the heck knows what. The ones which are districts probaly should be renamed after discussion. Or proposed for vfd.

regions vs cities
generally has to have city articles within it. If it is an island with a few small communities then it gets city template, not region template. This is important when we get to usable and above, since usableregion and usablecity print very different messages.

park vs region
If it has fees and hours, then it is from the park template. If it includes towns then it is a region. If it has a single administrative head or owner then it's a park.

Redirect problems
If ispartof points to a redirect page, then the breadcrumb is broken. Change to the real page.

The disambiguations special page lists about 4,000 pages. In ideal world, this would be zero. These are pages where a link in the artoicle is to a disambiguation page. But if you are in durango colorado and link to silverton, the user should go straight to silverton (Colo), not to a disambig page where they have to pick between silverton oregon or silverton australia. There are some good links, where a redirect page points to a disambiguation page. But most of the 4000 are problems.

If a redirect page includes text, then that text will be searchable, and the page will be in the user's hitlist for their searchh. But the user can't see the text! It remains hidden unless they go to edit mode or other extraordinary condition. So if you find text on a redirect page, it should be compared to the text in the redirected page, and missing inforamtion should be added. Then delete the text from the redirect page. Generally, all it should have is the redirect template. When it was redirected, it may be that the redirector did not have the time or inclination to merge the data so they just left it behind. And if they did merge the information then it is a quick process to just delete the remaining text. Many of these pages are quickly identified in the display of pages linked to a template. They will have the word "redirect" following the pagename. Happily, it is a good expectation that most pages which are redirected and still contain text will still contain their old templates, so they pop up.

Breadcrumb problems
Generally, all breadcrumbs should point all the way back to a continent. But sometimes they stop early. There are several causes of these breadcrumb problems.
 * isin/ispartof is pointing to a redirect page. Breadcrumbs do not survie past a redirect. Change the isin/ispartof to the real pagename.
 * isin/ispartof is pointing to a non-existent page. This may be a typo, or it may be pointing to a page which ought to be there but has never been created. If the page should exist, create it, If it is a typo, correct it. Or it may be that this place really should point to somplace else anyway. Then change it.
 * isin/ispartof is malformed. IsIn should have underscores and codes, no spaces or parentheses. IspartOf is the reverse. If it does't work, fix it. Usually easiest to change to ispartof and format it this way. Or they may have nissed the pipe, or used brackets for braces, or just one brace istead of two.
 * isin/ispartof is pointing to a page just fine, but that page doesn't have an isin/ispartof, or the one on that page is broken. You can select the higher page from the bredcrumb on this page, and then need to fix that one.

And of course it is also possible you just have a buffering problem which needs pages to be purged.

Itinerary
If the page is about a specific Road then it is considered itineraries, such as Interstate-64. But if page is about the area around the road, then it is a region, even if the pagename matches the road. Examples in the page name are road, highway, route, parkway. If you find a road, it should be added to the official list of roads at Wikivoyage:Routes_Expedition#Articles.

airports
There are only four or five airport articles. Not sure if they should be district of their city, a separate city, or a region article (probably not region). wikivoyage poilicies need clarification.

cruiseships
These show up in the list of pages which have no isin or ispartof, so they get identified easily. wikivoyage policies remain in flux for these, so I'm leaving them alone for adding type templates.

seedistrict printdistrict
Once all the districts are identified, it will be easy to get a list of cities which have districts. Then can determine if they should have the print and see district templates added. seedistrict is on almost none right now. But only add if the distrcict articles really do contain listings. Ig the distrcit articles are just outlines without the listings being divided, then it wuld be too earliy to add these.

If the city turns out to only have one district article, maybe it should be considered for whether page is appropriate or vfd.

Why do all this

 * First, getting the templates correct permits the pages to be cleaner. They sometimes affect display. For example, if "guide' is on a traveltopic record then it tells all about how the traveltopic contains hotel and restaurant listings. So getting guide changed to guideetopic cleans this up.

 * Second, if the templates are assigned, then it is possible to get a list of things like cities with districts, or outline itineraries, or countries contained in the system.

 * Third, if the templates are well assigned then you can run statistics from the database, such as how many cities or how many regions represented. What percent of parks are usable or better. Or other assessments.

 * Fourth, you can include template names in a search, so you can limit your results if you know how.


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User talk:(WT-en) BILLFAHY

Hello!

Welcome to Wikivoyage. You can edit your preferences to change how the software works for you. Please take a second to look at our copyleft and policies and guidelines, but feel free to plunge forward and edit some pages. Scanning the Manual of style, especially the article templates, can give you a good idea of how we like articles formatted. If you're new to our wiki software, MediaWiki, look at the Wiki markup to get an idea of how to edit a page. If you need help, check out the help desk, and if you need some info not on there, post a message in the travellers' pub. (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 07:27, 1 February 2007 (EST)

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User talk:(WT-en) Billiamair

Hello, Billiamair! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Project:Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub.

Nice work on Gairloch! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:18, 13 February 2010 (EST)

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