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Talk:Nakhon Si Thammarat/Listings

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Amphoe Mueang Nakhon Si Thammarat
Wat Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan (วัดพระมหาธาตุวรมหาวิหาร) ) is on Ratchadamnoen Road in Tambon Nai Mueang. This is a royal temple of the first class.  Formerly named Wat Phra Borom That, this is one of the most important historical sites in southern Thailand and in all of Thailand.  According to the legend of Phra Borom That Nakhon Si Thammarat, Prince Thanakuman and Queen Hem Chala were the ones who took Buddha relics to Hat Sai Kaeo and built a small pagoda to mark the location.  Later on, King Si-Thamma Sokarat established the city of Nakhon Si Thammarat and built a new pagoda.  The present pagoda has a distinctive Sri Lankan style.  It is 55.78 metres high (measured by the Fine Arts Department during the renovation of the gold top in 1995).  The height from the lotus base to the gold top is 6.80 metres.  The top is entirely covered by pure gold.  Inside the temple are many buildings of importance, especially the royal building which has beautiful architecture from the Ayutthaya period and the Sam Chom building where the Buddha image attired in royal wardrobe Phra Si Thamma Sokarat is housed. There are also the Phra Maha Phinetkrom (the equestrian image) building, the Thap Kaset building, while the Khian and Pho Lanka buildings are used to display artifacts donated to the temple by Buddhists.

Phra Phutthasihing (พระพุทธสิหิงค์) is housed in the Phra Phutthasihing hall near the Provincial Hall. This sacred image was believed to have been ordered by the king of Lanka in 157 AD and was brought to Thailand during the reign of King Ramkhamhaeng the Great. There are currently 3 similar images in Thailand which are at the National Museum in Bangkok, Wat Phra Sing in Chiang Mai and this image in Nakhon Si Thammarat. The hall housing the image was originally the Buddha image hall of the palace of Chao Phraya Nakhon (Noi). The hall is divided into 2 parts; the front portion houses Phra Phutthasihing, Phra Lak Ngoen and Phra Lak Thong and the back portion houses the ashes of the ancestors of the Na Nakhon family.

Ho Phra Isuan (หอพระอิศวร) is on Ratchadamnoen Road. It is a historical site of the Brahman religion. It has on display the Shiva Linga which is the symbol of Shiva, the Brahman god. There are also several bronze images such as the Siwa Nattarat image, Phra Uma and Phra Phikkhanet. The bronze images in this hall are replicas of the real images that are in Nakhon Si Thammarat National Museum.

Ho Phra Narai (หอพระนารายณ์) is also on Ratchadamnoen Road and another Brahman place of worship opposite Ho Phra Isuan. The original structure and design of this hall are unknown. However, a gray sandstone image of the god Narai wearing a hat and holding a conch in the right hand was discovered in the hall. It is estimated that it dates from the 11th-12th Buddhist century. This image is now in the National Museum in town. The only artifact on display in the hall is a replica of the Narai image discovered at an archaeological dig in Amphoe Sichon.

Phra Wihan Sung (พระวิหารสูง) is an important historical site located just outside the ancient city wall to the north in the area of Sanam Na Mueang, on Ratchadamnoen Road. The site is so called because of its high location on a hill 2.10 metres above level ground. There is no exact historical evidence but it is believed that its architecture and wall murals are from the early Rattanakosin period. The building houses plaster images with a fat clay core. The images are either from the 23rd-24th Buddhist century or from the late Ayutthaya period.

The Thai-style monks’ residence of Wat Wang Tawan Tok (กุฏิทรงไทยวัดวังตะวันตก) is on Ratchadamnoen Road in the area said to be opposite Wang Tawan Ok, the retreat of Chao Chom Prang. Formerly a park, Chao Phraya Nakhon (Noi) donated Wang Tawan Ok and the park opposite it to a temple, now known as Wat Wang Tawan Tok. In 1888, Phra Khru Kachat (Yong) and his disciples built a group of houses for monks. The 3 houses have a pointed roof connected to the other and there are exquisite Nakhon Si Thammarat designs on the walls, doors, windows, and vents. The Siam Architects Society named these houses the best conservation effort in the area of historical sites and temples in 1992.

Wat Chai Na Meditation Centre (สำนักวิปัสสนากรรมฐานวัดชายนา) is on Phatthanakan Thung Prang Road. Meditation courses are held for Thais and foreigners. The famous monk Phutthathat Bhikkhu established the centre as a branch of his monastery in Surat Thani. The centre is peaceful with an abundance of shady trees.

Chinese buildings at Wat Pradu and Wat Chaeng (เก๋งจีนวัดประดู่และวัดแจ้ง) is on Ratchadamnoen Road near the provincial stadium. Built in the early Rattanakosin period, they house the ashes of Phraya Nakhon and believed to also have the ashes of King Taksin the Great.

Chedi Yak (เจดีย์ยักษ์) is the province’s second-tallest pagoda after Phra Borom That pagoda. It is located near Nakhon Si Thammarat Municipality in the abandoned Wat Chedi area. It is said that the pagoda was built by Khotkhiri, a wealthy Mon, and his employees when they took refuge in the city in 1003.

Residence of Ok Ya Sena Phimuk (Yamada Nagamasa) (จวนออกญาเสนาภิมุข – ยามาดา นางามาซา) who was Japanese volunteer soldier living in the Ayutthaya period during the reign of King Songtham. He was rewarded for his many contributions to the palace by being appointed Ok Ya Sena Phimuk and as the lord of Nakhon Si Thammarat in 1629. Traces of his home still exist in the area of the Thai restaurant on Nang Ngam Road (beside the provincial hall).

Shadow play house of Suchat Sapsin (บ้านหนังตะลุงสุชาติ ทรัพย์สิน) is at 10/18 Si Thammasok Road, Soi 3. Suchat Sapsin received the 1996 Thailand Tourism Awards for the best cultural and historical site. The house has a shadow play museum, shadow play-making demonstrations and complete performances. Visitors can appreciate this fascinating art by calling tel. 346394.

City wall (กำแพงเมือง) is alongside Ratchadamnoen Road. The wall was renovated in the early Rattanakosin period and once more in 1990. The wall runs parallel with the city moat from Chai Nuea Gate or Chai Sak Gate to the east for 100 metres.

Nakhon Si Thammarat National Museum (พิพิธภัณฑสถานแห่งชาติ นครศรีธรรมราช) occupies the area of the old Wat Suan Luang Tawan Ok. The museum was opened in 1974 and has on display artifacts found in 4 southern provinces, which are Nakhon Si Thammarat, Phatthalung, Surat Thani, and Chumphon. Of interest is also the local handicrafts display room. The national library building opened to the public in 1976. There is a good collection of rare books and important books sent by the National Library in Bangkok for locals to study.

Wirathai Monument (อนุสาวรีย์วีรไทย) is made of blackened copper. The monument features a soldier ready to fight with a bayonet. The locals call this monument Cha Dam or Chao Pho Dam. It was erected to honor Thai soldiers in southern Thailand who died fighting an invading Japanese force in World War II on December 8, 1941. The monument is on Ratchadamnoen Road in Fort Vajiravudh which is the headquarters of the Fourth Region Army. The fort compound itself has conference rooms, guesthouses, a golf course, a shooting range, and a souvenir shop.

Arts and Culture Centre of Nakhon Si Thammarat Rajabhat Institute (สำนักศิลปและวัฒนธรรม สถาบันราชภัฏนครศรีธรรมราช) is 13km from the city on the Nakhon Si Thammarat-Phrom Khiri Road (Highway No. 4016). It is the centre of information on archaeological sites discovered in the province. On display are ancient local tools and utensils from the establishment of the community to the Sri Vijaya Empire. The centre also preserves and revives local entertainment, as well as researches and collects works on languages, literature and anthropology. The most important artifacts here are the stone inscriptions found at Khao Chong Khoi and artifacts from the ancient community at Wat Mok Lan. These vital evidences tell when Nakhon Si Thammarat was built. The centre is open daily during official hours.

Somdet Phra Sri Nakharin 84 Park (สวนสมเด็จพระศรีนครินทร์ 84) is a large park with an area of over 490.23 acres. It is just behind the provincial stadium. Originally part of Ratcharudi Park in the time of King Rama V, the park has an open zoo, a bird park, a health park, and a lake which is home to waterfowls that migrate here during January to March every year.

Bang Pu (บางปู) is 17km from the city and is at the Bang Pu intersection. This is where quality pottery is made. Only bricks and flowerpots used to be made here but villagers from Ban Mok Lan have now set up stores selling their handicrafts in this area. The products on sale have been improved in variety and quality to attract customers.

Amphoe Lan Saka
Khao Luang National Park (อุทยานแห่งชาติเขาหลวง) covers Amphoe Mueang, Amphoe Phipun, Amphoe Phrom Khiri, Amphoe Lan Saka, Amphoe Chawang, King Amphoe Chang Klang, and King Amphoe Nop Phitam. Having a land area of 597 square kilometres, it was declared a national park on December 18, 1974. The park has a winding mountain range, with the Khao Luang peak the highest of the peaks in southern Thailand at 1,835 metres above sea level. It is the watershed of more than 15 streams and rivers. The park’s rainforest is home to a multitude of tropical flora and fauna. There is a route that takes visitors around the park to see unspoiled natural scenery, the variety of wildlife and rare animal and plant species, some of which can only be found in the park. The beauty and completeness of the park, its fascinating nature, the park’s efforts to encourage the local community and tourists to be aware of the importance of nature, and its excellent tourist service system have all combined to help the park win the 1998 Thailand Tourism Award in the natural destination category. For more information and accommodation bookings, please contact Khao Luang National Park at Karom waterfall, Tambon Khao Kaeo, P.O. Box 51, Amphoe Mueang, Nakhon Si Thammarat 80000, tel. 0 7530 9047.

Karom waterfall (น้ำตกกะโรม) is 9km from the city on Highway No. 4016 and then onto Highway No. 4015 on the left for 20km. The entrance to the waterfall is on the right. The waterfall originated in the Nakhon Si Thammarat mountain range and cascades down 19 levels with names like Nan Phung, Nan Nam Ruang, Nan Dat Fa, and Nan Soi Dao (the highest level at 1,300-1,400 metres). Kings and royal family members have visited this waterfall as evidenced by the initials of King Rama V and King Rama VI carved there.

Ban Khiri Wong (บ้านคีรีวง) is an ancient community which settled at the foot of Khao Luang in Tambon Kamlon, a path up the mountain. This peaceful village is like one big, happy family. The main occupation is growing mixed fruits, such as mangosteen, rambutan, durian, and Sato. The village was faced with catastrophe on November 21, 1988 when a flash flood swept away some 100 houses. The local monastery and villagers still maintain the damaged convocation hall and houses as monuments to those who perished. Ban Khiri Wong is considered a prototype of eco-tourism management and the place won the 1998 Thailand Tourism Award in the city and community category. The village is a good example of local people co-existing with nature. Residents have developed tourism services to be a new business for the area. The services include trekking tours, porters and homestay programs through the Eco-tourism Club, a central organization that delegates responsibilities to groups in the community to create cooperation. Tourists can appreciate the way of life here all year round, with the most attractive time during July to September when fruits are on sale. Trekking up Khao Luang must start at Ban Khiri Wong. One can get to the village by taking a mini-bus from Talat Yao. Buses depart from 7 a.m.-4 p.m. The fare is 17 baht. Alternatively, one can drive on the Amphoe Mueang-Lan Saka route for 26km. The sign pointing to the village is at Km. 20 on the right. Please contact the Tambon Kamlon Administration Office at tel. 0 7530 9010.

Khao Luang peak (ยอดเขาหลวง) features a trekking activity to enjoy nature on the Ban Khiri Wong-Khao Luang peak route. The normal trekking time is 2 nights and 3 days. Permission can be obtained from Khao Luang National Park and Tambon Kamlon Administration Office. They will facilitate the trek and provide eco-tourism services by the community. Treks are in groups of 10. The best time for this is from January to June.

Amphoe Phrom Khiri
Mueang Nakhon Reception House (เรือนรับรองเมืองนคร) was built to receive His Majesty the King and H.R.H. Crown Princess Maha Chakri when they visited the city. It is in an old fruit orchard of the Thongsamak family which built the house for the royal family on behalf of the city’s people. The area is covered with varied kinds of native fruit trees and has been decorated with beautiful and shady plants. The house is open to the public daily except Wednesday and when the royal family is there.

Wat Khao Khun Phanom and the Khao Khun Phanom Scientific Study Centre (วัดเขาขุนพนมและศูนย์วิทยาศาสตร์เพื่อการศึกษาเขาขุนพนม) is in Mu 3, Tambon Ban Ko. From the city, use Highway No. 4016 to Km. 21 past Phrom Lok market and take a right-hand road for 2.5km. Wat Khao Khun Phanom is a temple of historical and archaeological importance. The temple has a cave lined with a brick wall and marked with heart-shaped stones marking the limits of the temple similar to those along the city wall. The front wall has plaster designs decorated with Chinese porcelain. In the cave are about 30 bronze Buddha images and a bronze Buddha’s footprint. Several smaller connecting caves branch out from the main cave like an elaborate fortress maze. Many believe this is where King Taksin the Great used to stay. Others say it was the rest stop of Princess Kesini, daughter of Chao Nara Suriyawong, the lord of Nakhon Si Thammarat during 1769-1776.

On the way up Khao Khun Phanom is the Khao Khun Phanom Scientific Study Centre that provides knowledge on science, technology, the environment, and eco-tourism to the public. The Khao Khun Phanom community is a cultural community. There is a training camp activity and a grouping called the Tourism to Study Fruit Orchards by Bicycle Club. Please call tel. 0 75 345154.

Namtok Phrom Lok (น้ำตกพรหมโลก) is in Tambon Phrom Lok. It can be reached via Highway No. 4016 (Nakhon Si Thammarat-Phrom Khiri) to Km. 20, then turning left onto Highway No. 4132 for 5km. This is a large waterfall with wide and lovely rock platforms. The source is in Nakhon Si Thammarat mountain range and flows down 4 levels, which are Nan Bo Nam Won, Nan Wang Mai Pak, Nan Wang Hua Bua, and Nan Wang Ai Le. The water flows past many kinds flora before going to Khlong Tha Phae and ending in the Gulf of Thailand in Tambon Pak Phun.

Namtok Ai Khiao (น้ำตกอ้ายเขียวหรือน้ำตกในเขียว) is in Tambon Thon Hong. It is 30km from the city on Highway No. 4016 on the same route as Phrom Lok waterfall. However, it is at Km. 26 and then going on a left-hand road for 3km more. The source is also from Khao Luang. This waterfall has 9 levels, which are Nan Chong Sai, Nan Bang Bai, Nan Mai Phai, Nan Sua Phan, Nan Buppha Sawan, Nan Hin Kong, Nan Hua Chang, Nan Sai Kwat Lan, and Nan Fa Faet. The surrounding area is still a dense jungle. Both sides of the falls are covered with betel gardens. The locals call the betel Phlu Pak Sai because of its hot flavor and sweet scent. The view of Khao Luang is best viewed from here.

Ban Plai Uan (���้านปลายอวน) in Mu 5, Tambon Phrom Lok is at the foot of Khao Luang near Phrom Lok waterfall. Most residents tend fruit orchards. The Nature Conservation for Jungle Trekking Club is located here. One can trek 5km from the village to Phiman Mek waterfall which is 1,505 metres above sea level. Along the way there are interesting flora, fauna, caves, streams, and the gigantic red palm of the genus Caryota which is a plant with very unique features. For more information, please contact the Ban Plai Uan Nature Conservation Club, tel. 0 7533 8633.

Amphoe Nopphitam
Namtok Krung Ching (น้ำตกกรุงชิง) is a beautiful and important waterfall of Khao Luang National Park. Located in Tambon Krung Ching, the waterfall derived its name from Ton Ching which is a kind of palm prevalent in the area. The waterfall has many levels, each with a different name, such as Nan Mut Phae, Nan Fon Saen Ha, Nan Plew, Nan Chon, Nan Chon, Nan Ton To, and Nan Wang Ruea Bin. The most breathtaking level is Nan Fon Saen Ha where water drops off a sheer cliff 100 metres high, splashing down creating a mist covering the area like rain unlike other falls. This waterfall level is depicted on the back of Thailand’s 1,000 baht currency note. The waterfall is under the responsibility of the Khao Luang National Park Protection Unit. The waterfall can be reached by a road 3.8km long to Nan Fon Saen Ha. The area has a training centre, accommodation and a campground.

To get to the falls, take the Nakhon Si Thammarat-Phrom Khiri road (4016). Upon reaching Na Reng intersection, turn left to King Amphoe Nop Phitam and turn right (4186). The total distance is 70km.

Rafting on Khlong Klai (ล่องแก่งคลองกลาย) can be done on rubber boats provided by Krung Ching Administration Office in Mu 3, Tambon Krung Ching, near Krung Ching waterfall. There are 2 ways of the rafting route, which are Pak Khlong Phitam-Lan Hin Dan which is 2.5km and takes 1 hour and Pak Khlong Phitam-Ban Thung Nai which is 6km and takes 3 hours. The fee is 250-350 baht/person. Please contact tel. 0 7530 9004 and 0 1677 3112. Tham Hong (ถ้ำหงส์) is a medium-sized cave with a stream running through its centre before going subterranean to another stream outside. Stalactites and stalagmites of strange shapes abound in the cave. The most distinctive characteristic of the cave is a waterfall that drops down 3 levels. Visitors in the cave must wade through water before emerging from the exit 300 metres away. The cave is under the responsibility of the Khao Nanthi National Park Protection Unit (Khlong Lamphaen). The cave is situated just before Krung Ching waterfall. Namtok Yot Lueang or Namtok Mueang Mai (น้ำตกยอดเหลืองหรือน้ำตกเมืองใหม่) is to the south of Krung Ching waterfall in Mu 6, Tambon Na Reng. This medium-sized waterfall has 4 levels, which are Nan Toei, Nan Kradot, Nan Ya Kha, and Nan Plio. Swimming can be enjoyed here amidst the coolness of the jungle. To get to the waterfall, take the Nakhon Si Thammarat-Phrom Khiri route (4016) for 40km.

Amphoe Chang Klang
Namtok Tha Phae (น้ำตกท่าแพ) is in Mu 14, Tambon Chang Klang. The waterfall can be accessed via the Nakhon-Chandi-Chawang-Ban Song route (Highway No. 4015) for 36km, then turning right at the sign for 2 more. This beautiful ten-level waterfall has 3 levels which are accessible to the public; Nan Phae Noi, Nan Nang Khruan and Nan Toei.

Namtok Suan Ai (น้ำตกสวนอาย) is in Mu 5, Tambon Khlong La-ai, Amphoe Chawang. From Nakhon Si Thammarat, take the Nakhon-Lan Saka-Chandi route (4015) for 55km. Of its 5 levels, visitors can enjoy 3 which are Nan Chong Som Lot, Nan Ton Riang and Nan Laoka.

Waterfall Suan Khan (น้ำตกสวนขัน) is in Mu 3, Tambon Suan Khan. It can be reached by taking the Nakhon-Lan Saka-Chandi route (4015) for 55km and connecting to the Chandi-Phipun bus for 4km. The very beautiful nature here is conducive to trekking and exploring the flora of the area. Three levels of the waterfall can be accessed.

Amphoe Tham Phannara
Wat Tham Thong Phannara (วัดถ้ำทองพรรณรา) is in Mu 9, Tambon Tham Phannara, about 2km from the Asia Highway (No. 41) at Km. 192-193 and about 1km from the district office. Legend has it that two nuns named Pring and Prang came by sea with many followers and belongings to give valuables to build a pagoda entombing Lord Buddha’s relics. However, when they arrived at the port (Ban Pak Ra now), they found that the pagoda had already been completed, so they chose another suitable site to build which was Thong cave. They then built a reclining Buddha image in the cave. When the nuns died, their descendents placed their bones in 2 Buddha images that they built. It became tradition that on the first full-moon night of the 11th lunar month (October) people would pay homage to the reclining image and the images representing the nuns called Phra Pring and Phra Prang. This Khun Tham ceremony is attended by a great number of worshippers who bring with them desserts to make offerings and who tour the caves there which consist of both dark and bright caves.

Amphoe Tha Sala
Walailak University (มหาวิทยาลัยวิไลลักษณ์) was established on March 29, 1992. It is at 222 Tambon Thai Buri. This state university is one of the newest and most complete in the country, incorporating a university city and an education park. The Chaloem Phra Kiat area comprises parks with different themes, which are honoring the king, botany, religion, archaeology, southern Thai studies, seminars and demonstrations, science and technology, and environment. The university has a huge area of nearly 3,900 acres. It offers departments at the bachelor’s degree level which are management technology, information technology, industrial and resource technology, medicine and public health, and nursing. In 1998, a department of business and tourism administration was opened. For more information, please contact tel. 0 7533 9124, 0 7538 4000 ext. 1123, 1125. Khao Nan National Park (อุทยานแห่งชาติเขานัน) is 30km from Amphoe Tha Sala. The park covers areas in Amphoe Tha Sala, Amphoe Sichon and King Amphoe Nop Phitam. In addition, the park has areas in Pa Khao Nan National Forest Reserve and Pa Krung Ching National Forest Reserve. The total area of the park is 436 square kilometres. The main topography is a high mountain range extending from Khao Luang National Park. The park itself is a watershed of many waterways. Travel from the city can be by Highway No. 401 across Khlong Klai past Ban Sa Kaeo in Amphoe Tha Sala. Upon reaching Km. 110, turn left into Ban Pak Chao and drive 15km to the park office. The park’s main attraction is Sunantha waterfall which is a small but lovely waterfall. Water drops down a steep cliff to the pool below before flowing into Khlong Klai, the main waterway of Tha Sala. Rafting can be done in the canal when the water level is high. Ban Nai Thung Handicrafts (หัตถกรรมบ้านในถุ้ง) can be found 24km from the city. Ban Nai Thung is a Muslim Thai village near the sea. Aside from fishing, villagers use their spare time to make colored cloth kites in the shape of birds as well as birdcages for sale on both sides of the road. This village is well worth a visit for some quality products. Wat Mokhlan Archaeological Site (วัดโมคลาน) is in Tambon Don Kha and is 10km from the district office. To get there, take Highway No. 401 to Ban Na Thap, turn left onto Highway No. 4022 and drive for 6km. Originally a religious place for Brahmans of the Saiwanikai sect, the artifacts found here date from the 12th-14th Buddhist century. Items that can be seen here include traces of stone pillars, carvings around doorways, religious stones, an ancient pond, and statue bases. The Fine Arts Department declared this area an archaeological site in 1975. Pottery Village (หมู่บ้านปั้นหม้อ) is just 50 metres from Wat Mokhlan. The village still adheres to the old technique of making pottery by hand. The pots made here are large and thick and have little design.

Amphoe Sichon
Hat Sichon (หาดสิชล), or Hua Hin Sichon as known to locals, is a well-known destination of the district. Rocks line the beach all the way to a curved sandy stretch where people can swim. There is accommodation and restaurants for tourists. Hin Ngam Beach (หาดหินงาม) has a unique characteristic in that it is littered with round rocks of various striking colors. Hence, its name. There are no services here. Kho Khao Beach (Piti Beach) (หาดคอเขาหรื��หาดปิติ) is a popular beach that connects to Hin Ngam beach. There are accommodation and restaurant facilities for tourists. How to get there Take Highway No. 401 from Amphoe Mueang for 70 kilometres to Amphoe Sichon. Turn right to Ban Pak Nam for 3 kilometres to Sichon beach (Hua Hin Sichon) and from there it is 1.5 kilometres to Hin Ngam and Kho Khao (Piti) beaches. Piti beach is 2 kilometres from Hin Ngam beach. Si Khit Waterfall (น้ำตกสี่ขีด) is in Mu 2, Tambon Si Khit. It is 15 kilometres west of Sichon beach on Highway No. 4105. This small waterfall originates in the mountains to the west and flows down several levels amidst pristine natural surroundings. It is on the way to becoming a national park. Khao Kha Archaeological Site (แหล่งโบราณคดีเขาคา) in Tambon Sao Phao. To get there, take Highway No. 401 from Si Phibun intersection to Km. 99, turn left onto Chinda Pracha Sawan Road for 7km. Khao Kha is a sacred religious place of the Saiwanikai sect which worships Shiva as its highest god. Khao Kha is regarded as being like the mythical Khao Phra Sumen, a centre of worship that is surrounded by smaller, secondary historical sites. Many artifacts used in rites have been found here including phallic symbols, holy water pipes, ruins, and an ancient pond. The site dates from the 13th-14th Buddhist century. The Fine Arts Department completed its renovation in 1997.

Amphoe Pak Phanang
Museum Honouring the King for the Development of Pak Phanang Basin (พิพิธภัณฑ์เฉลิมพระเกียรติเพื่อพัฒนาพื้นที่ลุ่มน้ำปากพนัง) is a museum conceived by the Project to Develop Pak Phanang Basin of His Majesty the King that covers Nakhon Si Thammarat, Phatthalung and Songkhla. The museum is in the project itself and consists of His Majesty’s office, a meeting room and an exhibition room on Pak Phanang’s history. For information, please contact tel. 0 75 517933, 517534. Pak Phanang Coast and Talumphuk Cape (ชายทะเลปากพนังและแหลมตะลุมพุก) are the sites of a severe storm in Nakhon Si Thammarat in 1962. The coast of Pak Phanang is a long beach with the Talumphuk cape to the north jutting out into the Gulf of Thailand like a crescent moon. The part where it is connected to Nakhon Si Thammarat bay has some villagers, while the coast on the gulf has a beautiful, pine-lined beach. To get to both places, take Highway No. 4013 (Nakhon Si Thammarat-Pak Phanang) and then 16 kilometres on a road to Pak Phanang. Both sides of the road are shrimp farms and mangrove forests. Ban Rang Nok (บ้านรังนก) is famous for the nests made by swallows in the town. Several houses and buildings have been closed because of the immense number of swallows inhabiting them. These birds make the houses their homes just like living in caves and mountains. However, the nests are not easily accessible as they are in private properties. Wat Nantharam (วัดนันทาราม) used to be called Wat Tai and currently houses Luang Pho Phut, a red sandstone Buddha image from the Ayutthaya period. Pak Phanang people worship this sacred image. In addition, the temple houses a giant phallic symbol found at Khao Kha archaeological site and is believed to be around 1,200 years old and from the 12th-14th Buddhist century. The symbol is carved from limestone and is the most complete in southern Thailand. The temple is at Chai Nam Road on the western side of Pak Phanang.

Amphoe Ron Phibun and Amphoe Chulabhorn
Khao Chong Khoi Stone Inscription (ศิลาจารึกเขาช่องคอย) is at Ban Khok Sathon, Mu 9, Tambon Thung Pho, Amphoe Chulaphon. This is the oldest Sanskrit stone inscription found in southern Thailand and dates from the 11th-12th Buddhist century. It tells the story of people asking for shelter from Shiva and jungle spirits. It ends with the saying If a good person resides in a village, then that community shall find happiness and good results. Fan Making Village (หมู่บ้านทำพัดใบกะพ้อ) is on Highway No. 403, 40km from Amphoe Mueang to Amphoe Ron Phibun. The villagers here use their spare time to make Kapho fans for sale nationwide. This popular local handicraft is affordable and very useful.

Amphoe Thung Song
Namtok Yong National Park (อุทยานแห่งชาติน้ำตกโยง) or locally known as Yong Sai Yai waterfall has a total area of 49,403.25 acres. It covers areas in Thung Song, Na Bon and Chawang. The area was proclaimed a national park on December 10, 1987. The park’s pristine nature includes the Yong waterfall where streams converge into one giant rope-like waterfall dropping from a high cliff to the large pool below. There is also the Plew waterfall at Pa Praek, a smaller waterfall 25 metres high. An ascent from Ban Nam Ron to the top takes about 1 hour. To get to the park, take the Nakhon Si Thammarat-Thung Song Road for 50km and turn right and drive for 3km to the park. Tents are available for tourists. For more details, please contact the park at Mu 2, Tambon Tham Yai. Tham Talot (ถ้ำตลอด) is 500 metres from Thung Song district office. This is a small cave in Chai Chumphon mountain. The cave can be traversed from one exit to the other. Hence, its name of Talot cave. Inside is a huge reclining Buddha image stretching the length of the cave. This sacred image is decorated with murals of Lord Buddha’s life drawn by Mr. Naep Thichinnaphong, a famous artist of Nakhon Si Thammarat. The area around the cave has been developed into a park. There is a store selling food and drinks. Kuan Im Goddess Image (พระโพธิสัตว์กวนอิม) is a large white plaster image. Its height of 19 metres makes it easily visible from afar. It is in the benevolence gesture, its left hand holding a vase containing magic water while its right holds a Lew branch. The image stands on a large lotus beside a boy and a girl. A big dragon is paying homage to the image. The image is situated in the middle of a large pond surrounded by fountains. You can find this spectacular piece of art at Sam Po Kong foundation (Luang Pho To), Mu Ban Phatthana Road, Tambon Pak Phraek, approximately 1km from Thung Song market.

Amphoe Phipun
Namtok Ranae (น้ำตกระแนะ) is in Mu 6, Tambon Phipun. To get there from Nakhon Si Thammarat city, take the Nakhon-Lan Saka, Chandi road (Highway No. 4015) for 55km (the same route as to Suan Ai and Suan Khan waterfalls). Then continue on the Chandi-Phipun bus for 18km. Approximately 1km before you reach Phipun district office, there is a sign on the right pointing to the waterfall. Take that road for 10km. This beautiful ten-level waterfall is well worth a visit.

Amphoe Na Bon
Namtok Khlong Chang and Trekking on Khao Men (น้ำคลองจั��และเดินป่าเขาเหมน) are must things to see and do in this district. The Khlong Chang waterfall has 7 tiers and is one of southern Thailand’s most beautiful. The waterfall originates in Khao Men which is the third highest mountain after Khao Luang and Khao Nan (Nakhon Si Thammarat mountain range). The waterfall area is still a verdant forest. Trekking up the 1,235-metre-high Khao Men is recommended as a cool mist covers it the year round and it possesses more than 300 exotic plant species. To get there, take the Nakhon Si Thammarat-Thung Song road to Khuan Mai Daeng intersection. Turn right towards Na Bon on Road No.4230 for about 11km to the waterfall. The recommended time for trekking is 2 days and 1 night and the most suitable period is December to April. Please contact the 17th Volunteer Territorial Defence Company of Na Bon at tel. 0 75491244.

Do
Cow fighting (กีฬาชนวัว) is an identity of southern Thailand and is an ancient sport of Nakhon Si Thammarat. Many details are involved in staging a contest. Cows selected will have the best breeding and will be trained and carefully looked after. The contest itself is held weekly with districts not far from the city taking turn to host, which are Mueang, Pak Phanang, Chawang, Thung Song, Hua Sai, and Ron Phibun.

Festivals
Hae Pha Khuen That Festival (ประเพณีแห่ผ้���ขึ้นธาตุ) is celebrated at Phra Borom That Chedi. The pagoda is considered to be the representative of Lord Buddha and is believed by locals to possess unsurpassed might of righteousness as it contains holy relics. Every year Buddhists pay homage to the pagoda by organizing a procession bearing a religious cloth to wrap around the pagoda to bring good fortune and success. This festival is held twice a year during Makha Bucha Day (the 15th full-moon night of February) and Wisakha Bucha Day (the 15th full-moon night of May). Festival of the Tenth Lunar Month (ประเพณีเทศกาลเดือนสิบ) is a grand event of the province and of southern Thailand. This festival is held from the 1st waning-moon night to the 15th waning-moon night every September. It is held to pay respect to deceased ancestors. According to Buddhism beliefs, the dead had many sins and were sent to hell to become a demon. The demons are allowed to come up to meet their relatives for 15 days in September, but must return to hell before sunrise of the 15th day. The living tries to appease the spirits by taking food to temples to make merit. Beginning on the 13th day, people will go shopping for food to be given. The 14th day is spent preparing and decorating the food tray, and the 15th day is the actual merit-making day. The tray presented nowadays has elaborate designs but still retains traditional components. Contests to find the most beautiful tray are held. A magnificent procession proceeds along Ratchadamnoen Road on the 14th day. Chak Phra or Lak Phra Festival (ประเพณีชักพระหรือลากพระ) is influenced by Indian culture, which expanded into the province a long time ago. The festival signifies the joy that people had when Lord Buddha returned from a star and the Lord was invited to sit on a throne and carried to a palace. In practice, locals would bear a Buddha image holding a bowl in a procession around the city. This is a great way for escape from daily routine and it is a fun competition to find who is the most religious. Held in October, the festival is preceded by activities 7 days before, such as beating drums, playing castanets and decorating the ceremonial throne for the image. The actual ceremony is usually held only on the last day of the Buddhist lent. People would take the image from the temple in the morning and proceed to Benchama Rachuthit School in Amphoe Mueang. This is also done in front of Ron Phibun district office. In addition, there is a water-borne procession on Pak Phanang River in Pak Phanang, which coincides with an annual boat race for a trophy from the Crown Princess.

Buy
Nielloware (เครื่องถมนคร) is a famous craft of the province and is well known since the old days. There are two types; black surface with white designs and black surface with gold designs. The Nakhon Si Thammarat College of Arts and Handicrafts teaches this craft. Nielloware of this province is popular for its durability and intricate designs by hand. The finished product is a bright, shiny black object with beautiful patterns. Items include rings, necklaces, bracelets, bowls, pedestals, and trays. The best shopping area is Tha Chang Road, behind Sanam Na Mueang in the area of Wat Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan, Nakhon Si Thammarat Municipality, and the Tha Wang market area. Brassware (เครื่องทองเหลือง) can be found at the Suan Maphrao Thai-Muslim village behind Wat Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan. The only brassware product now available is a cylinder for making noodles. Necklaces (สร้อยนะโม สร้อยเงิน สร้อยสามกษัตริย์) have long been the work of local silversmiths who can create gold, silver and mixed (gold, silver and an alloy) necklaces. The centre is at Tha Chang Road behind Sanam Na Mueang. Shadow play making (การแกะหนังตลุง) is an art that goes with the popular southern entertainment of shadow play. Thai shadow play figures have been transformed from those found in Java so that they are now very Thai. The hands and feet of the figures are fully movable during performances. The hide used can be either raw cow or goat hide. Designs are made by using chisels of various sizes to make small holes along drawn patterns. The price of each figure varies according to the delicateness and size of each one. Shadow play figures are now important products of Nakhon Si Thammarat and Phatthalung. Nakhon Si Thammarat city, in particular, has plenty of shops selling this unique product. Yan Liphao basketry (จักสานย่านลิเภา) is another famous product of the South, particularly in Nakhon Si Thammarat where people have been making it for over 100 years. Yan Liphao is a climbing plant that grows in damp places. It likes to exist among other plants. The trunk is very tough and durable, so locals found a way to make good use of it by making household goods such as handbags, tobacco boxes, tea utensils, etc. Some pieces are encased in silver alloy, gold alloy or gold. It takes around 10 days to a month to make one item, depending on the details of the design. The major Yan Liphao production spots are Ban Mon, Tambon Tha Rua and Ban Na Khian, Tambon Na Khian, both in Amphoe Mueang, and families in Fort Vajiravudh. Kapho fans (พัดใบกระพ้อ) are made from a kind of palm called Ton Pho by locals. The villagers of Ban Khok Yang in Ron Phibun use their spare time to make the fans. The leaves are dried and then woven into fans. Some are dyed into bright colors and sold at reasonable prices. Kapho fans are well known and sold throughout the country. Fans in Nakhon Si Thammarat can be bought at stores at Wat Phra Mahathat Woramahawihan, souvenir shops on Tha Chang Road and in Bowon Bazaar in the Tha Wang market area.

Sleep
Amphoe Mueang
 * Grand Park (แกรนด์ปาร์ค) 1204/79 Pak Nakhon Road (Tel: 0 75 317666–73), 80 rooms: 600-900 baht
 * Khiang Khiri (เคียงคีรี) In Rajabhat Nakhon Si Thammmarat Institute (Tel: 0 75 377436), 20 rooms: 450 baht
 * The Twin Lotus (เดอะ ทวิน โลตัส) 97/8 Phatthanakan Khu Khwang Road (Tel: 0 75 323777 Fax: 0 75323821 ฺBangkok Tel: 0 2711–0357-9 Fax: 0 2381–0390), 10 rooms: 950-2,500 baht
 * Thai Fa (ไทยฟ้า) 1751/5 Chamroen Withi Road (Tel: 0 75 356727), 13 rooms: 120–180 baht
 * Thai Hotel (ไทยโฮเต็ล) 1373 Ratchadamnoen Road (Tel: 0 75 341509, 0 75341512 Fax: 0 75344858), 215 rooms: 200-1,310 baht
 * Thai Li (ไทยหลี) 1130 Ratchadamanoen Road (Tel: 0 75 356948, 356319), 20 rooms: 120–140 baht
 * Thaksin (ทักษิณ) 1548/23 Si Prat Road (Tel: 0 75342790-4 Fax: 0 75342790), 120 rooms: 490-1,900 baht
 * Nakhon Hotel (นครโฮเต็ล) 1477/5 Yommarat (Tel: 0 75 356318), 42 rooms: 140–350 baht
 * Nakhon Garden (นครการ์เด้น) ¼ Pak Nakhon Road, Tambon Tha Wang (Tel: 0 75 313333), 50 rooms: 455 baht
 * Bua Luang (บัวหลวง) 1487/19 Soi Luang Mueang, Chamroen Withi Road (Tel: 0 75 341518, 341570 Fax: 343418), 84 rooms: 320 baht
 * Phet Pailin (เพชรไพลิน) 1835/38–39 Yommarat Road (Tel: 0 75 341896-7 Fax: 343943), 80 rooms: 200–640 baht
 * Montien (มณเฑียร) 1509/40–41 Yommarat Road (Tel: 0 75 341908–10 Fax: 345561),  100 rooms: 220–500 baht
 * V.P. Guesthouse (วีพีเกสท์เฮ้าท์) 1209/30 Yommarat Road (Tel: 0 75 314777–81 Fax: 314782), 47 rooms: 300–540 baht
 * Sakon (สากล) 1414/1 Buranaram Road (Tel: 0 75 356080), 23 rooms: 220–300 baht
 * Siam (สยาม) 1403/17 Chamroen Withi Road (Tel: 0 75 356090), 50 rooms: 100–300 baht
 * Udom Hotel (อุดมโฮเต็ล) 1461/8-9 Yommarat Road (Tel: 0 75 356310, 075356645), 105 rooms: 130–250 baht

Amphoe Thung Song อำเภอทุ่งสง
 * Thai Watthana (ไทยวัฒนา) 58/12 Phadungrat Road (Tel: 0 75 411255), 80 rooms: 180–500 baht
 * Thiam Fa (เทียมฟ้า) 3/1-3 Chaichumphon Road (Tel: 0 75 411078, 0 75411278), 41 rooms: 220–400 baht
 * Bunyarat (บุญญารัตน์) 19 Chaichumphon Road (Tel: 0 75 411382 Fax: 0 75412829), 35 rooms: 590 baht
 * Arun (อรุณ) 220–223 Chonprida Road (Tel: 0 75 411369), 8 rooms: 120–190 baht

Amphoe Lan Saka อำเภอลานสกา
 * Khao Luang National Park อุทยานแห่งชาติเขาหลวง Accommodation at Karom and Krung Ching Waterfalls can be reserved at Tel: 0 75309 047

Amphoe Pak Phanang อำเภอปากพนัง
 * Pak Phanang Hotel (ปากพนังโฮเต็ล) 82/4 Phanit Samphan Road (Tel: 0 75 517016), 37 rooms: 100–250 baht
 * Supphachok (ศุภโชค) 46/1 Phanit Samphan Road (Tel: 0 75 517201), 28 rooms: 100–330 baht

Amphoe Tha Sala อำเภอท่าศาลา
 * Khao Nan National Park อุทยานแห่งชาติเขานัน Contact P.O. Box 51 Amphoe Mueang, Nakhon Si Thammarat 80000

King Amphoe Nopphitam
 * Ban Wang Sila (บ้านวังศิลา) Mu 6 Tambon Krung Ching Tel: 016773112, 4 bungalows: 300 baht
 * Suan Fak Fa (สวนฝากฟ้า) Tambon Krung Ching Tel: 075521465

Amphoe Sichon อำเภอสิชล
 * Khrua Poi (ครัวป๋อย) 625 Mu 3 Hin Ngam Beach (Tel: 0 75 536055), 10 rooms: 350-500 baht
 * Prasansuk Villa (ประสานสุขวิลล่า) 625/4 Mu 3 Hin Ngam Beach (Tel: 0 75 536299, 355560-2, 23 bungalows: 350-1,200 baht
 * Piti Resort (ปิติรีสอร์ท) 432/3 Mu 5 Tambon Sichon (Tel: 0 75 335300-4), 44 rooms: 1,200-4,000 baht

 * Wang Luang (วังหลวง) 292 Rotfai Road (Tel: 0 75 335678-9), 28 rooms: 200–450 baht
 * Hin Ngam Bungalow (หินงามบังกะโล) 330 Mu 3 Hat Hin Ngam (Tel: 0 75 536204), 6 rooms: 200 baht
 * Sunthon (สุนทร) 95–97 Mu 1 Tambon Sichon (Tel: 0 75 536094), 32 rooms: 120 baht

Nai Phlao Beach หาดในเพลา
 * Khanom Hill Resort (ขนอมฮิลล์รีสอร์ท) 60/1 Ban Nai Phlao (Tel: 0 75 529403, 4 bungalows: 500–800 baht
 * Supha Royal Beach (สุภา รอยัล บีช) 51/4 Mu 8 (Tel: 0 75 529237, 528697 Fax: 528553), 70 rooms: 1,430 - 5,000 baht
 * Khanap Nam Diamond Cliff Resort (ขนาบน้ำ ไดมอนด์คลิฟ รีสอร์ท) 99 Mu 8 (Tel: 0 75 529147, 529144, 12 bungalows: 700-2,500 baht
 * G.B. Resort (จี บี รีสอร์ท) 30/1 Mu 8 (Tel: 0 75 529253), 8 bungalows: 550–800 baht
 * Nai Phlao Bay Resort (ในเพลา เบย์ รีสอร์ท) 51/3 Ban Nai Phlao (Tel: 0 75 529422-4 Fax: 0 75529425), 40 bungalows: 300-2,000 baht

Na Dan Beach หาดหน้าด่าน
 * Khanom Resort (ขนอม รีสอร์ท) Ban Kho Khao (Tel: 0 75 529403), 4 bungalows: 500–800 baht
 * Tan Khu Resort (ตาลคู่ รีสอร์ท) 23/2 Mu 2 (Tel: 0 75 528362), 9 bungalows: 400 baht
 * Rabiang Sai (ระเบียงทราย) 59 Mu 4 (Tel: 0 75 528910-1), 20 bungalow: 400–750 baht
 * Alongkot Resort (อลงกต รีสอร์ท) 28/1 Mu 2 Na Dan Beach (Tel: 0 75 529119, 529492), 35 bungalows: 700 baht

Nai Pret Beach หาดในเปร็ต
 * Thip Montri Resort (ทิพย์มนตรี รีสอร์ท) 12 Mu 7 Tambon Khanom (Tel: 0 75 528147), 8 bungalows: 400–600 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 20:51, 5 February 2010 (EST)

=City=

Sleep

 * Eak Hotel, 101/14 Akkhara Withi Rd., Ampher Khanom. 180-200 baht

 * Sunthorn Hotel 95-97 Moo 1, Tambol Sichon, Ampher Sichon. 120 Baht/night

 * Sakol Hotel,1414/1 Buranaram Rd. 120-180 baht

 * Sai Lom Bunglow, 300/2 Moo 1, Tambol Sichon, Ampher Sichon. 120-500 BT/night

 * Thaksin Hotel1584/23 Si Prat Rd, Tel: (075) 34 2790 Fax: (075) 34 2790, Single 490 THB, Double 550 THB

 * Thai Hotel 1375 Ratchadamnoen Rd, Kahon Si Thammarat. Tel: (075) 34 1509 Fax: (075) 34 4858, Total rooms: 235, Sgl fan private b'room 220 THB, Dbl fan private b'room 270 THB, Sgl A/C private b'room 340 THB, Dbl A/C private b'room. 380 THB & 750 THB for junior suite.

 * Thai Li Hotel 1130 Ratchadamnoen Rd. Tel: (075) 35 6948. 20 rooms only. Sgl fan private b'room 140 THB, Dbl fan private b'room 200 THB

— (WT-en) globe-trotter 12:49, 20 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Nalanda

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Project:Votes_for_deletion history
This article was recommended for deletion, but consensus was to keep it.

Nalanda
Merge?? 152.132.10.134 17:24, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Merge into Patna and make this a redirect. (WT-en) Pashley 20:40, 3 July 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep. It is a famous tourist destination and there is accommodation nearby that serves people visiting the ruins. (WT-en) WindHorse 23:19, 4 July 2007 (EDT)
 * OK, if that's the case I'll go along with keep. (WT-en) Pashley 01:28, 6 July 2007 (EDT)
 * KEEP.. the information is not there. But it is a major tourist and pilgrimage destination —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 122.167.142.227 (talk • contribs)
 * Outcome: Kept --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 04:33, 21 July 2007 (EDT)

Deletion
I removed "Among its many notable guests were the Buddha and Mahavira" in the description of the university, since both those worthies lived several hundred years before the university was established. If something other than the obvious was meant, by all means put it back but with clearer text. Pashley (talk) 02:28, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Namche Bazaar

Please add a map which helps users to know where is Namche Bazaar in Nepal. --217.11.16.151 12:27, 18 March 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Na Meo

Scams
I'm not sure how true the claims of scams are so I've left them in as I can't be sure enough to remove them. I've read of bus scams (mainly as having to pay extra to get to Hanoi from a smaller town in Vietnam) but my bus from Sam Neua-Thanh Hoa was fine. However when on the bus I asked a quote for how much to extend my ticket onto Hanoi and was told an excessive amount. I don't know about the other direction. (WT-en) Rej8 01:46, 15 May 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Namibia

General
For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Namibia/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

Really excellent start! I'm so glad to see someone doing good work on Africa. Keep up the good work! (WT-en) Majnoona 23:43, 31 Jan 2004 (EST)

 * Uh... ditto. (Dang it, Maj! You always have better encouragements than I do!!!). --(WT-en) Evan 03:05, 1 Feb 2004 (EST)

Regions/Hierarchy
The current Namibian regions does not make a lot of sense from a travelers point of view. I'd suggest we a change to the following: Though slightly differently named, this will also fit better with the official Namibian Tourism board regions rather than the political divisions --(WT-en) Nick 16:28, 13 March 2008 (EDT)
 * Caprivi Strip
 * Northern Namibia
 * Central Namibia
 * Southern Namibia
 * Skeleton Coast

Hierarchy again
Hi all, like the poster above me some 10 years ago, I'm not happy with the first-level hierarchy of this article. Particularly the definition of Central Namibia seems to be arbitrary. I can expand on my critique, but maybe the following is sufficient: I suggest to have the first-level division analogous to the real administrative division, as follows:
 * When Namibians refer to "the North", or "Northern Namibia", they mean the Four-O regions (Oshana, Oshikoto, Ohangwena, Omusati), and not what currently is defined as Northern Namibia,
 * The current southern border of "Central Namibia" cuts right through the Namib-Naukluft-Park,
 * The Hardap Region in common parlance is in central Namibia, not Southern,
 * The regions currently are too large to be useful.
 * 1) Caprivi (current Zambezi Region)
 * 2) Kavango (current Kavango East and Kavango West)
 * 3) Northern Namibia or former Ovamboland or politically most correct, Four-O region (Oshana, Oshikoto, Ohangwena, Omusati)
 * 4) Kunene
 * 5) Otjozondjupa
 * 6) Omaheke
 * 7) Erongo
 * 8) Khomas
 * 9) Hardap
 * 10) ǁKaras

Many existing travel guides have a similar ordering. It also coincides much better with the existing cultural / ethnical separation (Four-O exclusively Ovambo, Kunene is Ovahimba, Erongo Damara, Otjozondjupa and Omaheke Ovaherero and San, and so on). I can give more reasons if required, but let me leave it at that for now. Please comment! Pgallert (talk) 12:46, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

 * I'm perfectly happy for you to reorder the regional structure of the country this way. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:19, 23 December 2018 (UTC)

 * I will trust your judgement as a Namibian to reorganise the hierarchy in the way outlined above.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:10, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 2 weeks, 2 supports, no oppose. I'll take that as consensus and go ahead. --Pgallert (talk) 12:07, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Please do that.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 14:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

I went ahead and made a dynamic map of the regions you proposed—here it is. —Granger (talk · contribs) 02:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Fantastic, thank you! As you can see from the redlinks, I'm not quite done yet, but I haven't forgotten. Currently travelling again, though... Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 08:15, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay! I'm happy to see the progress and glad you haven't forgotten. Enjoy your trip! —Granger (talk · contribs) 08:39, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi all! I have now completed the new regions and updated the Namibia page. I will link the previous division back to Namibia; I distributed all useful content to the new regions. There is still a technical problem with my page move from Northern Namibia to Four-O region, as I get the message "... Your move should now be reflected in the Wikidata item language link. We ask that you check this has occurred." I'm not quite sure what to do here. Can someone please assist? Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * The Wikidata item (accessible on the sidebar of any page) does reflect the new name in its sitelinks section, so all is well. ARR8 (User talk:ARR8 | Special:Contributions/ARR8) 17:20, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Nice job, Peter! Dankeschön, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your great work! Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:05, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

"Informal areas"
What do you mean by an "informal area", regarding the sale of alcohol on Sundays? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi ThunderingTyphoons! Informal areas, or "locations", are places where most houses are of metal sheets instead of bricks, where there's little sanitation or infrastructure. Most outsiders would call them slums, but that's considered offensive in Namibia. Any idea for a somewhat neutral word? --Pgallert (talk) 17:41, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * How about Shantytowns? If Namibians use the terms "informal areas" and "locations", then so should this article as the traveller will likely come across them, but they do need to be explained as they aren't used in that way for any other dialect of English that I know of. Thanks for replying. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:56, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I can put in a sentence of two under ===Respect=== explaining the terms. However, that would be further down the page than ==Drink== . Or should the explanation be at the first occurrence of 'location'? Thanks, Pgallert (talk) 06:27, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair question. I would certainly put (shantytown) in brackets after the first occurrence of "location" or "informal area", and then any other time when the meaning may not be clear, but you can leave the explanation for 'Respect'.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 08:42, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Not sure if I'll manage this year ;) as we're preparing for our next trip, though. --Pgallert (talk) 18:01, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year, and enjoy your trip! Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:15, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * So we have to wait until 2019? Unacceptable! Bon voyage :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:36, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅ I think. Happy New Year to everyone! Do have a look, please, if it is comprehensible now. --Pgallert (talk) 11:01, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

12-hour or 24-hour clock?
Which is more commonly used? Ground Zero (talk) 18:16, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Both are used, with the 24-hours probably a bit more common. In any case, if using the 12-hour clock it is done without the AM and PM and rather an explaining phrase like "11 at night". Cheers, Pgallert (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Danke, Peter ;) I suggest we use the 24-hour clock in articles relating to Namibia.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 19:10, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. All public notice boards use 24 hours, anyway. --Pgallert (talk) 19:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Peter and TT. Ground Zero (talk) 20:52, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Afrikaans
I really appreciate the updates in this article today, but is this really a difference from South Africa?

For example, in South Africa a black South African may choose to speak English rather than Afrikaans (as a political choice) whereas among Namibia's mixed-race population (who call themselves 'coloured' in Namibia and South Africa) Afrikaans is a proud part of their culture

Isn't that true of many Coloureds in South Africa, too? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:10, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Nanaimo

Spelling "Coombs"
it's not "combs" it's "coombs" with an 'u' sound like the word "moo" or "who"

 * Did you know that you could edit the article and change it yourself? But since I am here I will do it ... this time. -- (WT-en) Huttite 01:55, 27 Nov 2005 (EST)

Cedar BC: Ladysmith, Nanaimo, or its own page?
Please see the discussion about Cedar BC at Talk:Ladysmith (British_Columbia). Please add your preference to the list there. JimDeLaHunt (talk) 02:26, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

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i feel ridiculous duplicating tourism-office stuff when could be saying something about nice bar... proof of how little i get out. (WT-en) Kowey 03:28, 9 Nov 2003 (PST)

Pierre qui Mousse n'amasse pas roule? -(WT-en) phma 14:45, 7 Dec 2003 (PST)

Are the pubs specifically irish or is this a generic american term for a pub? You never know?! User:(WT-en) EAi

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Talk:Nanjing

Skyways?
Is the "german bread store" described under "Eat: budget" just Skyways, or something else? If it is Skyways, then it should be deleted. We already list Skyways sandwiches in "mid-range" (￥20 for a sandwich and coke is not "budget" in China) and mention them again in "splurge" (￥20 cheesecake). They are great, but don't belong in all three categories.

Anyway, they've moved to Shanghai Lu. I updated the directions but do not have an exact address and do not know if the phone number has changed.

If it is not Skyways, it needs more detail. (WT-en) Pashley 08:45, 14 December 2008 (EST)

The New Adress is Skyways 云中食品店 160 Shanghai Lu 上海路160号 Tel: 83317103

Burgers
There's a very good burger place just North of Blue Sky on the same side of the street. Anyone got enough details to add an entry? (WT-en) Pashley

 * It is gone. Closed? Or perhaps moved? The location, up a steep stairway and next door to a pink-lights "massage" shop was far from ideal. (WT-en) Pashley 00:56, 7 November 2009 (EST)

Staying Safe in Nanjing
I edited this section down a lot and linked out to the Stay Safe and Driving in China sections because most of these rules apply to the country as a whole, and not just Nanjing. Of course, what seemed to apply to Nanjing as a city I left in. If anyone has any tips for the Stay Safe section that are particularly relevant to the city itself, I'd be glad to see them put back in. (WT-en) Zainiqbal 15:48, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

 * Great. That definitely needed doing. (WT-en) Pashley 15:57, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Food
I added a section at the beginning of Eat with some of the local specialties, but I think this guide is pretty sad in that almost all the other restaurants listed are non-Chinese. Don't get me wrong, the Western restaurants should be there if they're good and worth going to, but it would be nice to know where to get good Chinese food regardless of style. 112.224.2.56 06:09, 8 February 2011 (EST)

 * Thanks for adding the local dishes! And yes, I agree that the article lacks listings of the local Chinese restaurants. If you know of the best places to get the local specialties or any other restaurant, please feel free to add them! Although I've been to Nanjing, I can't really help the "Eat" section. I'm not much of a culinary traveler. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 16:17, 8 February 2011 (EST)

two See items need copyediting
See — Meihuashan & Nanjing Yuejiang Lou both need copyediting. thanks --Swoolverton (talk) 15:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?

In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 06:47, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

 * No. I like the serenity of the current banner. The new banner feels chaotic to me, and it also feels like it has some kind of blue off color on much of its right side. I haven't been to Nanjing, though; it could well be that the new banner gets the feeling of the city across much better than the current one. But as a composition, I much prefer the current one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

 * I agree with Ikan, much prefer the current one. Pashley (talk) 15:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Malformed coordinates??
Can anyone figure out why this page is in Category:Pages with malformed coordinate tags? I been over it several times and can't find anything out of order. The page only has two sets of coordinates filled in, one for Zifeng Tower and the other for the geo tag, both of which appear to be working properly. When you click on the map, however, another location appears across the lake from Zifeng Tower with a "fix me" tag. Where is that coming from? Texugo (talk) 11:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

 * I cannot find the problem, but I can tell you that the "fix me" is at (or very close to) the main Nanjing railway station. Pashley (talk) 15:28, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

YOG Nanjing 2014
WLGQ, no one focus this?! --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

 * Plunge forward, please. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:37, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

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Naning to Halong bay in 8 hours? certainly that's not possible?

 * Feasible, but not likely, unless you change to a connecting bus before Hanoi, or catch a direct Chinese tour bus - and are fortunate at the border crossing - It is only some 300 kilometres, and the road conditions are good by Vietnamese standards. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 22:36, 12 April 2009 (EDT)

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ToDo

 * the article desperately needs a photo of the mechanical Great Elephant, it looks one of the key features of the city. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 03:12, 21 July 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Naoshima

I'm one of Naoshiman native.I guess not 20-30 but 30-60 minutes are required on foot.Since I'm a japanese,I have some troubles about English.I wish if anyone correct my manuscript. Thank you, GIOGIO.

 * GIOGIO氏、どうもありがとう. 直島について日本語版の方にもちょっと書いてくれませんか？ (WT-en) Jpatokal 14:24, 4 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Thanks a lot for correcting my English,Mr.Jpatokal.I've made simple outline,and I will update it in my convenience. Regards,GIOGIO. 12:12,5 Sep 2005 JST (EDT)

I've just visited Naoshima. I'll try to add a bunch of information on this wonderful place over the next few days. This is my first major wiki attempt: please assist or comment on my talk page as you like. (WT-en) Deconstruct 04:15, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

 * Great! The article formatting is currently very non-standard, but with a little effort this could easily become an Off the Beaten Path featured article. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:36, 27 April 2008 (EDT)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
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 * Benesse house08s3200.jpg
 * No FoP in Japan. I guess I'll upload it right away. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:48, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:52, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * This is by George Rickey. I knew George Rickey and like his work. As it's in public for people to see, though I don't know, I can't imagine the estate being upset unless maybe someone tried to sell photos of the work without permission. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:55, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Someone is really enjoying trying to remove all Japanese public art. I've noticed lots of photos that have been on Commons and Wikipedia/here are all suddenly being suggested to be deleted in recent months. It feels like policy-approved trolling. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 06:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * They're claiming a freedom of panorama issue. They also deleted photos of Canadian murals. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:57, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know. It's just a lot easier to find a bunch of pictures and recommend them for deletion than it is to try and figure out what authority needs to be contacted to find out if it can be used, contact them, etc. and nominators know that. That's why I called it policy-approved trolling. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 12:17, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Banner
Tai123.123 (talk) 00:44, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 * OK, sure. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:05, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * New banner. While the current one looks really nice, since the latter is more representative of Naoshima, I'd go with that. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 * The original pumpkin was destroyed in August by a typhoon. I don't believe it has been repaired or replaced. I like the new banner better, but I think we should wait until the pumpkin is back on the pier before we make it the banner. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:34, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
 * In that case, I would also go with you and keep this banner change on hold. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:36, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Napa

Because Copia closed, I have removed it, as well as Julia's Kitchen from several points.(WT-en) ProudLady 00:02, 7 March 2009 (EST)

downtown trolley discontinued
Sadly, the city discontinued the downtown trolley due to lack of riders

By trolley

 * Downtown Trolley, Phone: +1 707 255-7631, . Daily except Tu 11AM-7PM (F,Sa until 10PM). Stops at 14 locations, including the downtown Napa plaza, Napa Town Center, Napa Premium Outlets, Napa Valley Expo, Wine Train, Fuller Park in Old Town and the public library.

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Talk:Napa County

Currently, the Napa County article is pathetically short and all the towns it lists are in the Napa Valley, which gave me an idea: what if we just merged and redirected Napa County into Napa Valley? Wikipedia apparently considers them the same thing, why don't we? (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 13:16, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Napa Valley

Location
Is the Valley really considered to be in the Bay Area??(WT-en) OldPine 18:07, 1 June 2006 (EDT)

 * Napa Valley is considered part of the North Bay. See the map on the California page for a breakdown of Wikivoyage's California regions.  If you feel it should be classified differently let us know - everything is always subject to discussion. -- (WT-en) Ryan 18:14, 1 June 2006 (EDT)
 * Nah, I'm good. I think it's just that I'm from an area where the regions are smaller than big ole California. Y'know, it breaks my heart that the pages in this great area are not yet well developed. I came looking to see how the region was handled. Maybe after Cape Cod I'll come back here and relive my visit.(WT-en) OldPine 18:28, 1 June 2006 (EDT)

Rutherford and Oakville
Anyone know what these are? I know they are American Viticultural Areas, but can't determine if they are towns with their own government or villages of cities like Yountville, or neither. (WT-en) OldPine 14:43, 1 August 2006 (EDT)

Merge Napa County?
Currently, the Napa County article is pathetically short and all the towns it lists are in the Napa Valley, which gave me an idea: what if we just merged and redirected Napa County into Napa Valley? Wikipedia apparently considers them the same thing, why don't we? (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 13:15, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Sounds like a good plan. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 19:05, 13 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Done. (WT-en) PerryPlanet Talk 01:14, 20 July 2010 (EDT)

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Rental listings
Please allow Quam Properties Hawaii, Inc as a vacation rental listing under the "sleep" section. I believe they meet the requirements for an exception to the real estate listing ban. I have started this talk page to that effect. (see list of requirements [])

Vacation rental properties are a very common accommodations on Maui, hundreds of condos, town homes, and villas are managed by realtors for owners. These properties are available for as little as 5 days at a time. There is an entire section of the local craigslist dedicated to advertising them, Maui Vacation Rentals on Craigslist

Quam has a physical address in Napili where guests collect keys, speak to managers, can be reached by phone, etc. It is at the bottom of every page of their website. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Amy mci (talk • contribs)

 * Provided that this article doesn't become an advertisement then rental listings are probably OK, but if things should eventually get out of hand then I would argue strongly that there are plenty of traditional lodging options (hotel, resort, etc) and that we may want to reconsider the value of rental listings. Amy, any general information that you could add to this article that would aid a traveler in picking amongst rental companies (types of properties offered, what differentiates one company from the next, who owns the properties being rented, pricing differences between rentals at different locations or times of year, etc) would be appreciated and would lessen the likelihood of the section being removed in the future. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 15:51, 15 October 2010 (EDT)

Napili
I created a banner from the Commons category Napili-Honokowai for our Napili article, but I'm not sure if the two places called "Napili" are the same place. Wikidata has two separate entries, Q2370737 and Q6964940. Could someone clarify that both are the same and therefore the page banner is in the right place for the Napili article? Thanks. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:02, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The image description says "Kahana sunset", and Napili-Honokowai, Hawaii suggests that Kahana is adjacent to Nāpili and both are part of Napili-Honokowai. I don't know whether or not our Napili article covers Kahana. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:12, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * I did a quick search on Wikivoyage and there is no article for "Kahana" here. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:20, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Another, though more minor, concern I have is whether or not this image from Commons, which is categorized under Waikapu, is really showing that place. The reason I have concern is that I cropped the page banner for Waikapu from that image. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:22, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
 * As demonstrated at OpenStreetMap, Waikapu is a suburb of Wailuku which is turn a sort-of suburb of Kahului. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 20:26, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Naples

Earlier in the saummer I added some info (and links where possible) on various modes of getting around in the Naples area. Sorry for not mentioning this earlier. (WT-en) L.J. Brooks 18:25, 04 Sep 2006 (UTC)

Added some info on safety tips for people travelling in Naples and the area. (WT-en) L.J. Brooks 18:39, 04 Sep 2006 (UTC)

May 10, 2011: I am reading conflicting info regarding which ANM bus to take from Napoli Centrale Train Station to the Capodichino Airport. This site: http://www.napoliunplugged.com/Naples-ANM-Bus-System.html says that the 3S is no longer in service and advises one take the C58. I just thought I would add this into the discussion in case someone with more authority on the wikivoyage site wanted to update. I will need to get from the train station to the airport tomorrow, so I guess I'll find out for sure then. —The preceding comment was added by 93.45.197.139 (talk • contribs)

Watch out for terms
I just reverted some edits, since some words used are in my opinion quite contentious. I'm open to discussion.--Ferdinando Scala (talk) 09:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Galleries
I don't like all those small photos. I would take the time to enlarge then and separate them into different spots in the article, but I have to go to sleep, so for now, I'm just noting this as an important task. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:13, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

"Sleep" section
I just did a major cleanup of the "Sleep" section, which was incorrectly formatted and full of touting and fluff. The next question is whether hotel listings that are nothing but a name and contact information should be deleted. Your input, please. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:36, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Most of the entries should be removed. --Gobbler (talk) 12:43, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

--- Budget
 * B&B Naples - ?
 * Bed and Breakfast La Bouganville - good
 * 6 Small Rooms Hostel & Guesthouse - good
 * Dei Decumani bed & breakfast - good
 * Giovanni's Home
 * Hostel of the Sun
 * Hotel San Giorgio - good
 * Hotel Speranza
 * Potenza Hotel

 * I don't feel confident removing listings with descriptions, but please remove any that shouldn't be there. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:34, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * Cristo velato.jpg
 * Removed. There are way too many images in a row, anyway. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:07, 17 January 2019 (UTC)

Too many images
There are too many thumbnails on this page by far, as per WV:Image policy. Which ones are least important and should be removed? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:09, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Because they are appropriately spread out through the article, I don't think they are a problem, but we would not lose much by dropping the pictures of the airport hall, a cup of coffee, and a pizza. Ground Zero (talk) 11:34, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * There are a whole bunch of them in a row, so I don't agree that they are appropriately spread throughout the article. Thanks for your suggestions. I disagree in part, though, because I think a picture of la vera pizza napoletana is important in an article about Naples. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:43, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I moved more images around and removed a couple, but I'm still not satisfied, as there are too many images bunched in the "See" section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:14, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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 * Stazione alta velocita, Zaha Hadid, Naples Afragola.jpg

 * Reason: No freedom of panorama in Italy and the architect died in 2016 whereas they have to be dead for 70 years for it to be OK to show a picture of their work. So if we think it's so important to keep this photo in the article that we should consider it fair use for the educational purposes of a travel guide, we'd need to upload the photo locally. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:36, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Actually, maybe not. A previous nomination for deletion was denied on the following basis: "in Italy are considered below the threshold of originality the buildings that are not recognised as "remarkable" by the Ministry (Direzione Generale Arte e Architettura contemporanee e Periferie urbane)." Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

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 * Stazione alta velocita, Zaha Hadid, Naples Afragola.jpg

 * Visible on the page. It's a cool building, but is it important enough to claim fair use of it? The reasoning is: "No FoP in Italy. Architect Zaha Hadid died in 2016, still within the 70 p.m.a. of the country." Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:16, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Hmmm...I think so. From the article: "A massive new high-speed railway hub, 3 Napoli Afragola, has been built about 12 km north of the city centre." But let's have a second opinion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:17, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 * Looking at the thread, this file has been kept once before and the file may be kept again. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 * I voted for speedy keep, and now that A1 is banned from making comments at CDR, it may as well be kept again. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 07:19, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

 * We shouldn't count on it, though. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:38, 15 August 2021 (UTC)

Can somebody from Naples please check the coordinates of Galleria Borbonica?
On my computer the coordinates of Galleria Borbonica point to a spot in the sea. Travelosaurus (talk) 08:08, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

 * Indeed. It seems they might have been copied from a dd:mm:ss or dd:mm.mm format to the decimal format we use, without correcting the figures. I replaced them with the corresponding ones from Wikipedia (which is said to be the source for the ones at Wikidata). –LPfi (talk) 11:56, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Listings look weird in this article in Safari
What the heading says; listings in the article don't look normal, instead some low-level code is displayed. This problem only shows up:
 * in the Naples article as far as I've seen (today I'm digging around random articles to find entries for WV:Discover so I've seen a lot of articles in the last hour or so)
 * in the Safari browser (like the shrunk banners I mentioned in the pub), not Firefox
 * literally in this article; when I copy-pasted all of the article's code to my sandbox, the listings looked normal

Ypsilon (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Just made a dummy edit to the article, deleting one empty space at the beginning as that usually resets stuff or something and now all listings look normal. --Ypsilon (talk) 16:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * Toledo metro station (J).jpg

 * No FoP in Italy – I think I'd much rather have File:Estación de metro Toledo, Nápoles, Italia, 2023-03-26, DD 01-03 HDR.jpg than the existing image of Toledo station, though. SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 09:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Which existing image? We do have this photo in the article, and it's a no-brainer to upload locally with a big warning for no-one to use it commercially and that if they nevertheless do so, they do so at their own risk. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Naples (Florida)

Naples, FL News, Jobs, For Sale, Business Directory, Events, Videos A free resource for Collier County, Florida - geared for local residents and businesses.

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Talk:Nara

In the "Buy" Section: There is no pottery known as "Wakakusayaki" as a general naming. Verification needed. "Nara Family" used to be one of the largest of its kind when built in the '70s but not so sure at present. At any rate, it is a kind of shopping mall rather for local habitants than for travellers.

 * Duly noted. And yes, all my Google hits for 若草焼き seem to get recipes for grilled fish, not pottery... (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:46, 4 February 2007 (EST)

To-Do's (hopefully someday) - enriching contents for destinations outside Nara City.

Some thoughts: citing Asuka as the first and Fujiwarakyo the second capitals of Japan may not be really fitting. For one reason (but not limited to), it is because the palaces during these ages are believed to have moved, each time the Emperor changed, in the contemporary Asuka Village and maybe even surrounding areas. What generally is not disputed are: - Asuka area having been once the land of Imperial homegrounds for about 1oo years. - Fujiwarakyo: the first, large-scale palace and city modeled after Changan of Tang. Although it may be of less importance to name what is the "first and second" in the Wikivoyage context, leaving the notations as is may be somewhat misleading. Therefore my suggested alternatives: "Asuka - the homeground of very ancient capitals of Japan", "Fujiwarakyo - the first "permanent" capital palace."

Edit note Feb 7: 1. Order changed in the WH list, so as to group them a little better geographically, or area wise than just sticking to the official WH listing, hopefully to benefit potential visitors. 2. Naramachi: some grouping of the scattered text may be appropriate some time in the future. 3. Some ideas for Buy - souvenir: 筆,墨, 晒 (布製品), 一刀彫　--- this is a forget-nots for myself. 4. Some reflection point: is it appropriate to add some more description on the history of Nara; notably the temples and shrines are of ancient ages, while Naramachi and the merchandise (souvenirs) are from later age developments like Edo --- this may become self explanatory as Naramachi description grows. --(WT-en) 60dot 07:38, 7 February 2007 (EST)

 * Plunge forward! You're doing a great job so far.  Wikivoyage tends to prefer alphabetical listings though, but why not try writing an itinerary if you want to take the traveller on a tour in a certain order? (WT-en) Jpatokal 08:17, 7 February 2007 (EST)

 * I totally agree that the listing be reverted to alphabetical order, sometime in the future when the contents of individual attractions gets richer than just a listing --- which is still far, far away. Having an itinerary is a great idea, too --- and, phew, probably yet even further way. --(WT-en) 60dot 20:24, 7 February 2007 (EST)

Edit note Feb 8: Moved former "Understand" to the top, to somewhat meet the looks and feel as in Osaka or Kyoto pages. Added new text as a very brief backgrounder instead. (WT-en) 60dot 04:07, 8 February 2007 (EST)

itineraries
I think the itineraries should be listed in sub-sections under "see", as opposed to having their own articles, unless you're envisioning them being gigantic... (WT-en) ::: Cacahuate 21:18, 8 February 2007 (EST)

 * Noted. These pages for now were created intentionally, to serve a kick-start drafting and to

separate them from the "see" section so that the draft won't interfere much the existing description there. Whenever these reaches a reasonably readable state, they should go back in the "see" section. (WT-en) 60dot 23:20, 8 February 2007 (EST)

 * I have to disagree with Cacahuate here -- they should fleshed out and placed on separate pages. See One day in Bangkok or Three days in Singapore for a few examples of full city itineraries. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:42, 8 February 2007 (EST)

 * Appreciate the comments from both of you guys. Where these will eventually go should become clearer over time, seeing how much I, or any other contibutor of course, can enrich these itineraries. The reason I've created them separate for the timebeing is stated above. (WT-en) 60dot 00:04, 9 February 2007 (EST)

To my mind, one of the great pleasures of Nara is how one can show up and have an enriching walk around Nara Koen without much advance planning - one simply comes across the major sights, since the place is so well sign-posted, and half the attraction is the lovely atmosphere anyway. For itineraries, I'd suggest playing off the idea (mentioned in the introduction) that Nara can be a base for exploration of the area - anyone can figure out how to spend a productive day in Nara city on their own, but you could use the itinerary to show how they might spend a second day at Horyu-ji and other south-western sights, a third day in Uji, etc. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 07:54, 9 February 2007 (EST)

I started Three days in Nara along those lines, using some of (WT-en) 60dot's information - please join in. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 21:17, 15 February 2007 (EST)

Buy
Re: Writing Brush 筆

What I tried to mean with this: therefore not all you see at shopfronts are necessarily of artisanal works.

is twofold. 1. Many brushes are made by Nara local artisans indeed, but the products are not always the same, notably in terms of materials - what type of animal hair is used in the brush part - as the "traditional" Narafude. Authentic Narafude is rare. 2. With respect to quality of Chinese products, many are imported and sold.

Any better way to say so without getting too lengthy? (WT-en) 60dot 21:45, 12 February 2007 (EST)

 * Maybe something like "Authentic brushes (narafude) are rare, and accordingly, expensive. The difference is in the type of animal hair used for the brush part. Cheaper brushes made from other materials may be available." (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 22:22, 12 February 2007 (EST)

 * I've amended the text accordingly. Take a look, and please change if you feel I have not fully expressed your meaning or if you can do so more succinctly. (WT-en) WindHorse 22:36, 12 February 2007 (EST)

 * Thanks guys: modified just a little. Taken away "cheap", because imports from China are yes, less expensive, but with superb quality --- exactly what people dropping into those specialized shops are looking for. (WT-en) 60dot 22:50, 12 February 2007 (EST)

 * Great. We got there. (WT-en) WindHorse 22:51, 12 February 2007 (EST)

Organizing the sights
I think it would be helpful to visitors if we organized the sights in sections for ones that are in Nara Koen and ones that aren't, like Yakushi-ji. My memory is faulty for geography (and I haven't been to the latter four temples currently listed under Historic Monuments), though, so I'd have to defer to someone else on this. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 02:19, 13 February 2007 (EST)

 * I totally agree that it'd be very useful. When I scratched those dirty itinerary stubs, grouping was taken into account. That's not at all to say that there has to be a rigid itinerary on separate sheets, I just thought at least some grouping would be nice to let a visitor pick up and choose the places he/she wants to see in certain area. (Well, obviously I'm still lazy to expand it further quickly.) (WT-en) 60dot 06:01, 13 February 2007 (EST)

 * I have moved "Shin-Yakushi-ji" to "Other Spots" for the moment. Not trying to be too trivial, but it doesn't belong to the Nara WH. We may find a better place for it as editing goes on. (WT-en) 60dot 22:43, 13 February 2007 (EST)

 * But it's in Nara Park (or right on the edge), so I think grouping it with the others would be helpful for visitors. So, let's decide: geographically, which sights are in Nara Park, and which ones are outside of it? (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 11:34, 15 February 2007 (EST)

 * You are right about the location. What annoyed me is that it doesn't belong to the "World Heritage". That's why I moved it out temporarily for the sake of accuracy. Look at what is included in Itineary A; Shin-Yakushiji can go into that group. The rest are also grouped relative to their geography in plan B and C. (WT-en) 60dot 12:38, 15 February 2007 (EST)

 * I'm not talking about changing the itineraries. I don't think we should group sights by "World Heritage" / "Not World Heritage" in the 'See' section. It would be more helpful for a traveler if we listed places by location instead. I re-arranged the article to show what I'm talking about. But I don't know these places:

 * 1) Yakushi-ji Temple (薬師寺)
 * 2) Gangō-ji Temple (元興寺)
 * 3) Heijōkyū Palace Site (Nara Palace Site) (平城宮跡)[7] (Suzaku Gate(restored) (朱雀門), Daigoku-den (under restoration) (大極殿))
 * 4) Tōshōdai-ji Temple (唐招提寺)

Should they be considered part of Nara Park? (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 19:40, 15 February 2007 (EST)

 * None of the above four is in Nara Park. Gangō-ji Temple is rather inside Naramachi area. The rest are better accessed by bus. (WT-en) 60dot 06:41, 3 March 2007 (EST)

 * Thanks. Have you ever visited them? I'd like to add some comments for those temples, but I've never visited them. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 10:55, 3 March 2007 (EST)

 * Yes, but more than a decade ago. I do want revisit them before writing something on it - it is not much of my style to do so without verifying myself. (WT-en) 60dot 12:35, 3 March 2007 (EST)

Yatagarasu
Lord knows there's plenty of weird restaurants in Japan, but every web link I can find (eg. Nara prefecture, ), seems to indicate that Yatagarasu is a perfectly ordinary restaurant specializing in local chicken — it's even got counter seating in front of the open kitchen. Does the restaurant actually encourage getting frisky, or is it just like every other izakaya or karaoke box in town when people get drunk enough? (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:46, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

 * Copy my discussion with this contributor:
 * You completely reverted the experience I had in this Nara restaurant, just based on an "assumption" that this is not possible, although I explicitly state that this is my experience. I do not know about Hamamatsu, but here in Tokyo love restaurants are a new gadget for couples who seek the thrill of having "sanctioned" sex in public.
 * It is this kind of unreflected editing that made me drop out of Wikipedia long ago. (unsigned)
 * I'm sorry for the revert, but I was just thinking, you know, Nara is NOT Tokyo. Much more rural place. The description of the restaurant that was there before was fairly positive and normal. Did you actually see people having sex in the restaurant? If the place is actually as bad as you made it sound, then our policy is not to list it at all-- we don't list negative reviews-- so it was either revert what you added, or delete the listing altogether, and I opted for the former, given that I only had the word of an un-registered user IP address (you) against what was there before. Perhaps you could just delete the listing and give a more detailed account of why you did so in a note on Nara's talk page? (WT-en) Texugo 01:45, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

 * I don't think deleting the entire listing is appropriate. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:09, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * The original listing was added by 60dot, a Nara resident with a long Wikivoyage edit history, especially with this particular article. The other guy should sign up for an account and establish some credibility before expecting to have wild claims like that accepted at face value. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 03:26, 11 June 2007 (EDT)

Proposal of reoganasation
Though my English is inadequet, I would like to propose the reoganasation of articles about both Nara city and Nara prefecture. This is one tentative proposal.

 * Nara
 * Nara Koen & Naramachi (containing the sights accessible from the train stations on Foot)
 * sorrounding (containing the sights advised to access by public transportation)
 * Horyuji (containing the sights of Buddist Monument in Horyu-ji Area and surrounding)
 * Asuka-Fujiwara (containing the sights of southern Nara basin, especially Asuka and Kashihara, featuring Asuka-Fujiwara: Archaeological sites of Japan’s Ancient Capitals and Related Properties )
 * Yoshino(containing the sights of Mt Yoshino and Mt Omine areas in Kii Mountain Range)
 * Nara (prefecture) (containning some isolated temples, shrines, hiking trails(maybe) and so on)
 * One day in Nara
 * Three days in Nara

What do you think? --79.180.38.230 05:13, 12 November 2007 (EST)

 * If you see a temple, shrine, hiking trail, or other important place that is missing, please add it to the articles! You seem to understand wiki formatting very well, but please make sure you've read the Project:Manual of Style before you make any major changes. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 09:20, 12 November 2007 (EST)

Useful places
It might be interesting to add a few places in Nara, to be: In a few weeks I will check out this issues and add them, but feel free to do it yourself! --unsigned
 * 1) The Kaiten Sushi restaurant in the arcade next to the taxi stop at Kintetsu Nara. I will check the name the next time I'm there. It is quite good and affordable.
 * 2) For drinks: the WooKoo bar is a nice place for foreigners, playing darts, etc. and friendly staff. It is close to JR Nara, in the main street. Since I don't know opening times, I can't add it for now.
 * 3) There is a supermarket (a real one, not a convenience store) a bit hidden in the arcade. Will add details later as well :).
 * 4) About the Nara Family: it is not that interesting. Expensive department stores; quite small and not even a supermarket (only one with luxury products in the basement). For real shopping go to Namba in Osaka :).

 * It's not necessary for you to know the opening hours. Just use Google Maps or something like it to find the name in English and Japanese names, post it with a description, and let the next editor fill in the hours. --(WT-en) Orcrist 05:16, 11 August 2011 (EDT)

Alternative banner for this article?
I have previously created an alternative banner for this article (which was initially created for the parallel article at the Hebrew Wikivoyage, but I decided to suggest we'll use it here at the English Wikivoyage article as well). Which banner do you prefer that we'll use on the top of this article? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 13:31, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Strongly prefer the new banner -- you can tell what you're looking at! Vaticidalprophet (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I prefer the new banner for the same reason. Ground Zero (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
 * New banner. As stated by the above folks. --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 02:47, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * New banner is better, but it's a bit off-putting to me that it's an asymmetrical cylindrical projection. -- Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:14, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
 * New banner but I agree with Ikan Kekek about it being off-putting. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 11:05, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:Nara


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Talk:Narathiwat

TAT Listings
I moved the listings from TAT that cluttered the province page to Talk:Narathiwat/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 18:45, 5 February 2010 (EST)

Is this a guide to the province or the city?
The city, apparently, but the "Understand" section confuses the issue. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:Narathiwat