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Talk:Nagarjuna Sagar

Nagarjuna Sagar
Article about a dam in India, have no Idea where to redirect, and I hardly think this is the Hoover dam anyway (WT-en) Sertmann 05:36, 13 November 2008 (EST)

 * It is mentioned on Nalgonda under See. Perhaps move the text and redirect. The text on the page does suggest there is, perhaps, some interest about the place. (WT-en) Nrms 05:40, 13 November 2008 (EST)

 * Ok merged the content into Nalgonda - but I'm still in support of a Delete

 * Because it was merged, we should change it into a redirect, maintaining the page history for attribution purposes. (WT-en) LtPowers 09:43, 14 November 2008 (EST)

 * It is a fairly well-known weekend getaway from Hyderabad. Lots of tourists. The article quality doesn't reflect the place's popularity. I'll be going there come the weekend of 29-30/11; will fill in an article then. —The preceding comment was added by 121.246.148.205 (talk • contribs).

 * But can you sleep there? (WT-en) LtPowers 15:47, 17 November 2008 (EST)

 * Yes, see: http://www.aptourism.in/naccomodations.html. AP Tourism's website has a host of information useful in this article, starting at: http://www.aptourism.in/nglance.html.

 * Certainly looks like I stand corrected. --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) Talk 10:43, 19 November 2008 (EST)

 * Even though you can sleep there, I favor a Redirect at this time. The article isn't anything remotely approaching the WT standard.  If someone wants to make the redirect page into an actual article, that's fine, but lacking one, having the article for search engines to find, but not messing around with something badly misformatted, etc., seems best. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 10:29, 28 December 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Nagarkot

Copy removed
''The below copy was removed from the main page because it appears to be copyright violation from http://www.virtualtourist.com/hotels/Asia/Nepal/Nagarkot-1299099/Hotels_and_Accommodations-Nagarkot-BR-1.html

''-- (WT-en) Ilkirk 12:04, 24 July 2006 (EDT)

Nagarkot. This Hill Resort is situated northeast of Kathmandu valley (2175 meters),

about 10 kilometers from Bhaktapur town and just an hour's drive from Kathmandu. It has

been a weekend spot for mountain viewers in quite and comfort. The sunrise and sunset

from this hill resort present you the breathtaking view (subject to weather condition) of

the Himalayan ranging from Dhaulagiri (8167 meters) in the west to the Mt. Everest(8848

meters)in the east, including Mt. Langtang (7246 meters) and Mt. Ganesh (7406

meters).Nagarkot was about an hour and a half journey outside Kathmandu, so it was

lovely to see all the Nepalese countryside - lots of lovely quaint little houses and

paddyfields Peaceful cottage is a recommended solid budget choice in Nagarkot. It's just off the

main street, making it a quieter option and there's a wide range of rooms to suit most

budgets.If awesome view is your first preference to visit Nagarkot, then, Peaceful

cottage, definately be your first port of residence. Perched at the heart of Nagarkot, it

offers Breathtaking views of both the Kathmandu Valley and the Eastern Himalayan

Region. It has 12 tastefully decorated and well furnished Standard and Deluxe rooms

with private balconies that offers you the breath-taking views of the snow-clad mountains

and beautiful sunrises and sunsets. The rooms are spacious, comfortable and are

equipped with private baths, bathrobes, luggage storage. Nestled at the heart of the Nagarkot hill Hotel Peaceful cottage will pamper you with the

captivating mountains,wilderness and the unspoilt landscapes and sceneries.All rooms

are well furnished and spacious with pinewood paneling,attached baths with 24 hours

Hot/Cold running water. It is situated at the heart of the northern ridge at an altitude of

2000m, commanding a most spectacular view of the Himalayas stretching from Mt.

Manasalu in the west to Mt. Everest in the east.You can have the panoramic view of

Langtang Range,Unobstructed mountains,tiny villages,indrawati valley, kathmandu valley

from the rooftop of the hotel.One can enjoy 360 degree unparallel and unrivalled view

which makes your journey to Nagarkot worth coming.

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Talk:Nagasaki

Moved the following baraguin and badly organized stuff here:

If you visit there, please find stones which shapes are hearts in the pound. It's really hard for you to find them. If you can find them, it is said that your wishes may come true.

See

 * 99islands
 * HOUS TEN BOSCH

Eat

 * Humburger
 * Low fishes

We can see beautiful sea and we can eat meat and delicious fish or sea food. Sasebo is the first place where hamburgers were introduced in Japan. There are many hamburgers shops.

Gunkanjima Tour Update 2014
Regarding my edit to the tour information, since the form editor has no change summary entry: all we really had previously was a phone number. I'm not sure if that tour is still in operation—I haven't called—but couldn't find information about it online. It sounded quite similar to the Gunkanjima Concierge tour though, except there is no tour package that doesn't stop on the island, and it leaves from a different pier: the package is 170 minutes, leaves twice daily, has you wear a boarding pass with the rules printed on it, etc. So perhaps it is an evolution of an old tour. Gunkanjima Concierge led a very professionally-run tour with enthusiastic guides, had English-speaking staff and an English audio headset for the tour, an excellent web site, and their brochure was given to me by the Tourist Information Center. I think it's safe to deem this the authoritative Gunkanjima tour at this point in time.

Ches Martin (talk) 16:40, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Update
Actually, I did find the original tour company with that phone number online. Foreign language interpreter-guides are available, at a high rate because it's a live person. There is also a third tour company which stops at Iojima and Takashima in addition to Nagasaki Port. All three are listed on an official prefecture tourism committee page for Hashima. I'll think about how to re-structure our Gunkanjima entry to mention alternatives or favor one company less strongly, while striving for already-strained conciseness; suggestions welcome.

Ches Martin (talk) 06:01, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

 * That sounds fine. Do have a look at this site's tour listing policy if you haven't already.

 * All the best,

 * Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:36, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Manga cafe
I am not sure the manga café listed under Accommodation still exists. I could not find it when visiting recently, and there are some empty/under construction lots next to the Toyoko Inn. Lunik01 (talk) 13:22, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

 * If you have evidence that it no longer exists, please go ahead and delete the listing, and thanks! Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Nagorno-Karabakh

Travel to Azerbaijan
Are there ary problems traveling to NK after visiting Azerbaijan ? If so, that should be mentioned.

 * No. I just asked in the ministry.--Muso (talk) 17:53, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

isIn
Unfortunately saying where Nagorno-Karabakh is located is a political minefield, and "isIn|Caucasus" is probably the best way out. Basically, the Azeris say its theirs, but it's populated by a bunch of Armenians who have a self-proclaimed republic recognized by nobody and the only way to get in is via Armenia. (WT-en) Jpatokal 05:47, 20 August 2006 (EDT)
 * Whatever works. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 06:55, 20 August 2006 (EDT)

Official names
It is the long-standing policy of Wikivoyage that we do not default to official names for destinations, but rather to the name that is most useful for the traveler. In most cases, the cities and town in Karabakh are today most commonly known in English under the Armenian names, but honestly, none are well known among English speakers anyway. The one and only exception I can think of is Shusha, which is famous enough for its long history and culture that the Azeri version has remained the most common in English usage (by a factor of 3x, according to Google searches for Shusha + Karabakh vs. Shushi + Karabakh, limited to pages in English).

What is more important, from the traveler's point of view, is that all road signs in Karabakh use the Armenian names, not the Azeri names. Moreover, being occupied by the ethnic-Armenian government of Nagorno-Karabakh, these cities are uniformly referred to using the Armenian names, and a traveler who uses the Azeri names could actually run into trouble, as this is a politically sensitive matter. It is perfectly fine to include the Azeri translation in parentheses on the actual destination page, as per our policy on foreign names. But these links should remain as I have left them, per the linked policies above. Further "Azerifications" are not useful to the traveler, and therefore have no place on Wikivoyage, IMO. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 11:59, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

 * This was already the long-standing policy in 2008. It's 10 years more long-standing now. The name of this article shouldn't be changed as long as practically no-one in the English-speaking world has heard of Artsakh. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:27, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Thank you for restoring the common name. If common usage shifts to "Artsakh", then it would make sense to change the article name, but not until then. Ground Zero (talk) 02:54, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Article
Reuters says no settlement likely soon. Pashley (talk) 16:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Claimed land on map
Can we please get rid of the green color on the map for land claimed by the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic but controlled by Azerbaijan, and just show that land as part of Azerbaijan? The entire area of Karabakh is claimed by (and internationally recognized as part of) Azerbaijan, so showing what territory N-K claims is probably particularly useless and inappropriate for a travel guide. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:04, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

 * I'm inclined to agree. From the traveler's prescriptive: That land is part of Azerbaijan, not Nagorno-Karabakh. I'm guessing the only reason the map shows the claimed land in the first place, is that it wasn't designed for Wikivoyage. To projects like Wikipedia: Claimed land actuality matters.

 * However, by the same "From the traveler's prescriptive" standard: Nagorno-Karabakh probably should be removed from the Azerbaijan map. And the map on Destinations should probably show the unrecognized states. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

 * Never dealt with. Would anyone like to fix the map? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:36, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

 * Done. Ceever (talk) 04:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

 * Thank you! Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:20, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Country renamed
Apparently the country has been officially renamed this year or last. Should we follow suit and rename the article? Hobbitschuster (talk) 00:04, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

 * No. Only when the new name is more widely used in English. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:55, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Safety
Is this area safe to visit as of 2018? It is difficult finding official information on safety for disputed territories. Marathonian (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It is safe as long as you do not approach the border with Azerbaijan and make sure that you stay on the roads (mines may be still around). You have to register with the authorities and give them an exhaustive list of places that you plan to visit (places like Agdam are usually not allowed because of the mines and proximity to the border). : Perhaps the main threat is that you should not travel to Azerbaijan afterwards. They will refuse the entry or worse. --Alexander (talk) 20:50, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

New Conflict
It appears that within the last couple of days, Armenian and Azeri forces have exchanged fire. Some of the Armenian settlements in the Nagorno-Karabakh region were attacked and at least one Azeri soldier and a couple of Azeri helicopters were downed by Armenian forces. Just one sourceː 1. I guess we will have to monitor the situation. Lazarus1255 (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Obsolete text
Isn't this text obsolete?

It is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan, but is closely linked to Armenia and accessible only through Armenia.

I think the currently accurate version would be:

It is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan, but parts of it are closely linked to Armenia and accessible only through Armenia.

We will probably have to go through the article and change various wordings to reflect the current situation, which is that the self-claimed independent country of Artsakh has lost land and is going to lose more land soon. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:04, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

 * I'd say let's wait until the dust settles, and we can clearly see on the ground which part of the region is ruled by whom and how much travelling is possible (corona issues aside). Then we may have to divide this guide in two; one for the area (directly) ruled by Azerbaijan, and one for that by the Armenians. Vidimian (talk) 00:24, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Right. But maybe we could at least hide text that's clearly not accurate anymore. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 * We can save a permanent link to the current version here on the talk page, and then feel free to simply remove everything that is "clearly not accurate anymore", leaving enough to give needed context, and anything that might become true again. Anyone can then compare with the now current version and salvage if anything should have been kept (as is or as rewritten). –LPfi (talk) 15:51, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Yep. So, any further objections to making the change I proposed above? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Note that some areas that recently went under Azerbaijan control fall into existing Southern Azerbaijan's districts (Agdam and Fusuli). It might make more sense to include them into Southern Azerbaijan rather than in an eventual "Karabahk (Azerbaijan)" (or something like that) section. --Krauser levyl (talk) 02:55, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Noted, and thank you for the information. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:07, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Deletions
Shouldn't some of this deleted content (with edits as appropriate) by moved, rather than deleted? Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:12, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Shall we then create "Karabakh (Azerbaijan)" such that the content from the deleted links doesn't become orphaned? As I mentioned before there will be some initial confusion between Southern Azerbaijan and the new region, but better than orphaned content I guess. --Krauser levyl (talk) 02:47, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

 * It should be somewhere. If some of these attractions are in other known parts of Azerbaijan now, they should go there, but we do need to have them somewhere - if nowhere else, on this talk page for now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Moved most of it to Southern Azerbaijan, the rest propably belongs into the Ganja region. Cheers Ceever (talk) 12:55, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I missed Ceever's comment and I created a stub Karabakh (Azerbaijan) section. I won't have much time to do much about it in the coming days, so feel free to keep it or revert it as you see appropriate. --Krauser levyl (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Obsolete info
Isn't basically everything other than the See section now obsolete? Wikipedia's info is confusing too, but it seems like Azerbaijan controls the whole of the area now, in which case it should be merged with Karabakh (Azerbaijan)? Or is the self-proclaimed republic government still in control of Stepanakert and surrounding areas? Basically, I'm trying to avoid trying to make two banners 😅 --Travelwriter1000 (talk) 20:39, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * The unrecognised, self-proclaimed Republic of Artsakh still controls around 2/3 of the Nagorno-Karabakh region (pale color in map). Though the region has absolutely no tourism since the war since Russians now control the remaining parts of the region and don't allow access to any foreigners. So, it might be best to merge the two. CuriousGolden (talk) 20:45, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Well, Covid measures and Russian military aside, you can't travel between the Armenian- and Azerbaijani-controlled areas without going through Iran or Georgia first, so I would rather keep them seperate. Vidimian (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Merge
Since Azerbaijan has effectively taken over the whole area and the de facto republic is set to dissolve, it would make sense to merge it into Karabakh (Azerbaijan) and move it to just Karabakh. Champion (contribs) 05:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Maybe – I'd like to hear what others think before making a decision. -- SHB2000  (talk | contribs | meta) 05:25, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Is the area around Stepanakert effectively separate from Azerbaijan until the end of the year in any real way? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I assume we should breadcrumb the article to Azerbaijan, as it is under their de jure and de facto control, but the merger risks getting very confused if done before the area is integrated into Karabakh (Azerbaijan) on the ground. I assume things are settled in the latter. Hm, maybe not: the latter article says "As of December 2020, all cities of the region are ghost towns". If the situation still is the same, i.e. that we also cannot tell anything for sure about that area, then merging does little harm – but neither does having separate articles with little usable content as long as we cannot recommend any tourist to visit. I think it makes more sense to do the merger only when we actually can write a more or less clean article. –LPfi (talk) 08:04, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * But the problem is that while we can easily justify covering de facto independent countries as independent countries in the interests of travelers, by continuing to treat a former de facto country that was reoccupied by the de jure sovereign as independent by having an article about it, we really look bad. I can't see any justification for that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:16, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Feel free to go ahead on the merger, if you think that breadcrumbing the area to Azerbaijan (and editing accordingly) isn't enough. I am just afraid that it is very difficult to see what info is still relevant and where to write "as of 2020" and where "as of 2023". Also, I think we shouldn't spend to much time on these articles before we actually can say something useful. –LPfi (talk) 09:20, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, we should merge it. Azerbaijan has won the war and now controls the area, and there is no realistic prospect of that changing anytime soon. The dog2 (talk) 18:02, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I did the merge/redirect. We should now discuss whether to redirect Karabakh to Southern Azerbaijan. On the face of it, that seems sensible. I'll start a thread at Talk:Karabakh. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:57, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Nagoya

How much detail is too much? I want to give directions to get from Osu Kannon station to Osu market (exit 2 of the subway, straight ahead one block and through the gravelled temple area), but it seems like it might be a bit much.

 * If it's necessary to find it, then it's fine! I've added it. (WT-en) Jpatokal 09:21, 10 Oct 2005 (EDT)

We`re traveling in nagoya right now and subway passes aren`t yen 600, they`re 740.
 * Please feel free to plunge forward and correct this yourself! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 00:45, 16 September 2007 (EDT)

Robot museum closed
The Robot Musuem is closed forever as of October 1st, 2007. Sob.

Push for Destination of the Month
I'm impressed by how this article has improved — lots of detailed 'See' and 'Drink' listings, strong transport and contact information, and plenty of other good stuff. If this had a few more 'Sleep' listings (and perhaps another couple of 'Eat'), it could be a Destination of the Month. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 17:39, 27 April 2009 (EDT)

More buses to/from Tokyo
Another company servicing this route is "Willer Express". They have various options in terms of comfort and price and their cheapest are lower than those currently in the article. They also have an English version of their website. willerexpress.com — (WT-en) Hippietrail 23:36, 26 May 2010 (EDT)

Photos
There may be too many of them per Image policy, but I'm not sure, because they're poorly distributed: bunched up in certain sections and absent in others. Anyone who would like to distribute the thumbnails more evenly throughout the article and avoid having several of them follow the others in a row would be doing a good service. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:19, 23 November 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Nagoya (Indonesia)

I don't think Nagoya is located at 'the southern tip of Batam'. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 71.234.50.7 (talk • contribs)

 * I'm guessing whomever wrote that meant "northern". It's not quite at the tip either way, so I edited that line a bit.  -- (WT-en) D. Guillaime 01:30, 5 September 2011 (EDT)

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Talk:Nahr al-Bared

Pics
the pics need to be formatted better. --71.254.106.77 15:22, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

VFD Discussion
Not sure what to do with this one.. it doesn't even look a little bit like a traditional Wikivoyage article. .--(WT-en) globe-trotter 08:54, 23 February 2010 (EST)

 * Redirect to North Lebanon.--(WT-en) Burmesedays 20:56, 23 February 2010 (EST)
 * Redirect to Tripoli - It is a 0.2 square km refugee camp mostly destroyed in the 2007 conflict and currently under reconstruction. I can't find any evidence of the existence of any attraction or place to stay (including those mentioned in the current article); it doesn't really seem like a place tourists should go. If we do find any evidence to the contrary, it could still probably be summed up succinctly in a Get out listing in the Tripoli article, since it's only 4 miles from downtown Tripoli. (WT-en) Texugo 21:41, 2 March 2010 (EST)
 * I changed the redirect from Tripoli (in Libya) to Tripoli (Lebanon) as that is clearly a mistake. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 18:13, 16 May 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Nai Han

TAT Listings
Moved some TAT sleep listings here to clean up the main page:

 * All Seasons Naiharn Phuket (ออ ซีซัลในหานภ��เก็ต) 14/53 Mu 1, Rawai (Tel: 0 7628 9333 www.allseasons-asia.com/6741), 154 rooms: 1,800 baht
 * Le Royal Meridien Phuket Yacht Club (เลอ รอยัล เมอริเดียน ภูเก็ต ยอร์ช คลับ) 23/3 Wiset Road (Tel: 0 7638 0200 www.phuketyachtclub.lemeridien.com), 110 rooms: US$ 370-1,760
 * Nai Han Beach Resort (ในหาน บีช รีสอร์ท) 14/29 Mu 1, Wiset Road (Tel: 0 7638 1810), 20 rooms: 500-800 baht
 * Nai Han Villa (ในหาน วิลล่า) 14/29 Wiset Road (Tel: 0 7638 8080 Fax: 0 7638 8082), 24 rooms: 1,500 baht
 * Nai Han Garden Resort & Spa (ในหาน การ์เดน รีสอร์ท แอนด์ สปา) 15/12 Mu 1, Wiset Road (Tel: 0 7628 8319 www.naiharngardenresort.com), 23 Bungalow: 2,000-5,000 baht

 * Ao Sen Bungalow (อ่าวเสน บังกะโล) 11/2 Mu 1, Sen Bay, Tambon Rawai (Tel: 0 7628 8306), 30 rooms: 500-800 baht
 * Baan Krating Jungle Beach Resort (บ้านกระทิง จังเกิ้ล บีช รีสอร์ท) 11/3 Wiset Road, Amphoe Mueang (Tel: 0 7628 8264, 0 7628 8341), 30 rooms: 600-5,000 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 22:05, 15 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Nairobi

There seams to be lots of misleading and oudated information about Nairobi,some of the information is biased and this article should be reviewed.
 * DIY guide to improving articles. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 02:47, 6 May 2007 (EDT)

Minor Corrections
I'd like to begin by commending the author for the comprehensive work done regarding the information about Nairobi.

However, I noted some two errors, & I'd like to be as brief as possible.

Under "See", you have written "Kenyatta Conference Centre", instead of Kenyatta Conference International Center

Under "Buy" you have written "The three primary supermarkets in Nairobi are Tusky's, Uchumi, Naivas and Nakumatt." but you have listed four (4) supermarkets, Tusky's, Uchumi, Naivas and Nakumatt.

Please check on these.

Kind regards.

East Indian
What is meant by the term "East Indians"? Can the lemma be linked to, please?149.172.102.77 13:37, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Advise of not brushing your teeth with tap water is a bit extreme
I think that the advise of refraining to use tap water for brushing ones teeth and only use bottled water is a bit extreme. Literally everyone uses tap water to brush their teeth in Nairobi. It should be perfectly okay. Also very commendable work for the authors as this is a very good and accurate article. —The preceding comment was added by Jon Jonathan (talk • contribs)

 * And the best thing is that like with all our articles, you or anyone else can help out making the article even better. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:03, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 * True. But what are the risks of tap water? For example, if you can get bacterial infections or parasites from drinking the water, you can get the same things from brushing your teeth with it. I don't know if that's the case in Nairobi, but I've been to places where it was and actually did get a load of parasitical worms precisely from brushing my teeth with unboiled well water in one of them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:45, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 * Using bottled water to drink an brush teeth is a wise decision anywhere. Many countries provide safe water from the public water supply.  But when you are staying somewhere you probably do not know what has happened to that water once it has left the public water pipe.  It might sit in a tank on the roof in the hot sun.  Or old pipework etc.  So don't take the risk.  Bottled water is cheap just about everywhere.  It is best to think of any water that does not come from a bottle as poison.  Don't let it get into your mouth/body when washing/showering.Davidbstanley (talk) 22:13, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 * OK, I really couldn't disagree more with this. The international bottled water trade is the biggest ripoff of consumers and causes grave damage to the environment, in several ways: By depriving locals of a good natural water supply, by creating tons and tons of plastic waste, and by using fossil fuels to transport it. In places with perfectly safe municipal water systems, the water quality is often better than that of bottled water, and much bottled water comes from municipal water systems, anyway. I definitely understand that there are certain places where the water is quite safe but tastes strange, and if there is good local mineral water there, it makes sense to drink it, but advising people to always use bottled water to brush their teeth is in my opinion highly irresponsible. Sorry if this comes across to you as personal; it isn't, but I feel strongly that decreasing the overuse of bottled water is a simple way that everyone can help the environment. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

 * I have to agree with Ikan Kekek here; in some places bottled water is actually less safe than water from municipal water supplies. True, horrible stories like what happened in Flint do happen even in high income countries, but they are such a big shock precisely because tap water is usually safe. That being said, some low income countries sadly have problems with keeping tap water up to a safe standard. But drinking bottled water "just 'cause" is neither good for the health of anybody nor for the economy. By the way, are there reliable studies about the effects plastic bottles have on the water stored in it? Especially if a lot of UV radiation hits those bottles. Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:13, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

Supermarkets and shopping malls
Do we need such long lists of these? Maybe we should focus on a selection of each that are most relevant to travellers. Ground Zero (talk) 13:10, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

 * Good point. There are loads of supermarkets in New York City. Can you imagine if we tried to list a lot of them? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

 * I'll wait a few days for comments, and if there are no objections, I'll start cutting the list down. Ground Zero (talk) 01:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Since there were no objections, and because many supermarkets are listed in the shopping mall entries, I have removed the list. Travellers will have no trouble finding a supermarket at one of the malls listed if they need one. This list is too detailed and unnecessary. Ground Zero (talk) 18:36, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

in the malls in Kenya there are only overseas owned supermarkets (high prices). and all the malls are out of the city center. there are Local supermarkets not on the list. which any one in down town Nairobi would use. same old story you have not been to Nairobi. so the supermarkets which are Local and in the city center will be put pack on the list - unsigned
 * I'm glad that you've decided to discuss this. Decisions in Wikivoyage are made by consensus, not by one person claiming to know what is right. Two of us have expressed the view that there are too many supermarkets listed here. Supermarkets are of use to travellers, but listing every supermarket is going too far. Listing every pharmacy, gas station, corner shop would make this article not useful for travellers. What is the best way to determine which supermarkets (4 or 5 maximum) should be included. And if any are going to be added back in, they should be formatted like all of the other entities in the article, i.e. following Wikivoyage:Time and date formatting. Ground Zero (talk) 20:27, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

you better delete most pages for kenya then and all the countries in east and southern Africa as there all the same most of the towns were put in by me. same for most of south east Asia. most of the low cost hotels were also put in by me. this site is not for only upmarket tourists. I don't think you have been to africa

Hotels
There are also a lot of hotel listings. An easy way to trim them down would be to comment out any listings that have no contact information (address, phone, website). Any objections? Ground Zero (talk) 01:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Time formatting
It is easiest for readers if we use one time format per article, rather than changing from one format to another to another through an article. There are two used in Wikivoyage -- a 12-hour format (e.g. 9AM-noon, 2PM-6PM), and a 24-hour format (e.g. 09:00-13:00 and 14:00-18:00), and we try to use the format that is used in the country the article is about. This is set out in our style guide, WV:tdf. Ground Zero (talk) 11:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Safari provider
Safaris are a major reason for tourism in Kenya. In this respect, we should allow the listing of safari providers with their headquarters in Nairobi, but not international safari providers. These can advertise elsewhere. --DocWoKav (talk) 07:01, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

 * Yes, and not on Wikivoyage. Agreed on all counts. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:06, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * @ Ikan Kekek & The dog2. The safari provider you deleted seems to have headquarter in Nairobi. So no need to delete.--DocWoKav (talk) 12:07, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

 * The provider was deleted for touting. We allow listings of safari providers, but advertising is not allowed regardless of whether it's a local or foreign safari provider. The dog2 (talk) 15:10, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

 * Precisely. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:05, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Upgrade to Guide?
This is a well-developed article which meets many of the criteria for guide status; see Guide articles. Is something specific missing? /Yvwv (talk) 14:13, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

 * Many listings need coords. / SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 20:25, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Nai Thon and Nai Yang

TAT Listings
Moved some TAT sleep listings here to clean up the main page:

In Nai Thon:

 * Andaman White Beach Resort (อันดามัน ไวท์ บีช รีสอร์ท) 28/8 Mu 4, Tambon Sasou, Amphoe Talang (Tel: 0 7631 6300 Bangkok Tel: 0 2541 5275-77 www.andamanwhitebeach.com), 56 rooms: US$ 180-250
 * Nai Thon Beach Resort (ในทอน บีช รีสอร์ท) 22/2 Surin Road (Tel: 0 7620 5379-80 Fax: 0 7620 5381  Bangkok Tel: 0 2398 7624), 14 rooms: 1,200-1,800 baht
 * Nai Thon Beach Villa (ในทอน วิลล่า) 28/5 Tambon Sakhu, Amphoe Thalang (Tel: 0 7634 1456, 0 7620 5405-7 ext. 101-102, Fax: 0 7634 0128), 4 rooms: 2,300-3,000 baht
 * Nai Thon Buri Beach Resort Phuket (ในทอนบุรี บีช รีสอร์ท ภูเก็ต) 9 Mu 4, Tambon Sakhu, Amphoe Thalang (Tel: 0 7631 8700, 0 7620 5500 Bangkok Tel: 0 2663 0400-3), 88 rooms: 1,800-2,500 baht

In Nai Yang:

 * Airport Resort (แอร์พอร์ต รีสอร์ท) 80/15 Mu 1, Tambon Sakhu, Amphoe Thalang (Tel: 0 7632 7697 www.phuketairportresort.com), 16 rooms: 1,700-2,500 baht
 * Arahmas Resort & Spa Phuket (อารามัส รีสอร์ท แอนด์ สปา ภูเก็ต) 92 Mu 3, Ban Na Tai, Tambon Sakhu (Tel: 0 7631 6000 Fax: 0 7631 6095 Bangkok Tel: 0 2207 0703 www.arahmas.com), 117 rooms: 6,000-52,000 baht
 * Beautiful Sands Resort (บิวตี้ฟูล แซนด์ รีสอร์ท) 90/9 Mu 1, Tambon Sakhu, Amphoe Thalang (Tel: 08 3172 8052 www.sainamresort.com), 8 rooms: 2,000-2,500 baht
 * Garden Cottage (การ์เดน คอทเทจ) 53/1 Mu 1, Hat Nai Yang, Tambon Sakhu (Tel: 0 7632 7293 www.de.geocities.com/gardencottage 2002), 16 rooms: 1,000-1,500 baht
 * Kasalong Phuket Resort (กาสะลอง ภูเก็ต รีสอร์ท) 9 Mu 35 Tambon Sakhu ( Tel: 0 76205208-9 Fax: 0 76327646) www.kasalongphuket.com, 16 rooms: 2,200 – 4,500 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 22:08, 15 February 2010 (EST)

Althougb Nai Thon and Nai Yang are adjacent, they are not the same place and so to save typing the name of each resort after every listing, I suggest splitting the two and giving them their own pages. I don't know how to this. If someone could help, I can separate the listing

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Talk:Nakhon Nayok

TAT Listings
Moved listings from TAT to Talk:Nakhon Nayok/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 00:41, 3 February 2010 (EST)

title: Talk:Nakhon Nayok


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Talk:Nakhon Nayok/Listings

TAT listings
Some listings from TAT, if you have visited these, please add them back to the main article and add a description from a traveler's perspective.

See
San Lak Mueang (City Pillar Shrine) (ศาลหลักเมือง) at one time it was a shrine housing a 1-metre wooden column topped with a carving in the form of a lotus bud, situated near the Old City Wall, which at present is the residence of the Provincial Land Assistant as well as the Municipality Sanitary Service Centre. In 1910, the neglected city pillar was enshrined at the Red Building in the Women School of Sri Nakhon Nayok School. Later the shrine was rebuilt into an elegant four-cornered pavilion. Nowadays, City Pillar Shrine is the most revered shrine of the townspeople.

Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy (โรงเรียนนายร้อยพระจุลจอมเกล้า), located in Tambon Phrommani, 14 kilometres from Nakhon Nayok town and 75 kilometres from Bangkok using the Bangkok-Ongkharak route. The Academy is adjacent to Khao Cha-ngok Mountain and occupies an area of about 3,000 Rais (1,200 acres). It is a training centre for the Thai military cadet. There are several interesting attractions in the Academy compound, which can be accessed by car. However, if you should prefer the peace and quiet and would rather be close to nature, bicycles can be rented at the tourist centre in the Academy compound.

Attractions in the Chulachomkloa Royal Military Academy include:

King Rama V Monument (พระบรมราชาน���เสาวรีย์พระบาทสมเด็จพระจุลจอมเกล้าเจ้าอยู่หัว), situated at the general headquarters of the Academy on Khao Cha-ngok. It was built in honour of and reverence to His Majesty King Chulalongkorn (King Rama V) who was the founder of the Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy. The monument depicts a seated King Chulalongkorn in full Army regalia, bearing the Royal Insignia of the Supreme Commander of the Thai Forces.

Circular Pavilion (ศาลาวงกลม), historically, under the command of Field Marshall Crown Prince Pitsanulok Prachanat, the circular pavilion was built as a recreation area for the military cadet. It enshrines a sculpture of King Rama V.

100 Year Royal Military Academy Museum (อาคารพิพิธภัณฑ์โรงเรียนนายร้อย จปร. 100 ปี) exhibits biographies of the graduates who performed public services and also displays history of wars, weapons that were used in wars in the past, various uniforms of soldiers of all forces as well as a wax sculpture of King Rama V. It is open daily from 08.30-16.30. Admission is 10 baht.

Shrine of Chao Pho Khun Dan (ศาลเจ้าพ่อขุนด่าน) is a revered shrine of the Thais. Historically, Khun Dan was a commander in Nakhon Nayok during the Ayutthaya period. His heroic deed was the expulsion of the Khmer rebels in the year 1587, during the reign of King Naresuan Maharat. Whilst Thailand was involved in a war with the Burmese, the Khmer took the opportunity and invaded the country and herded residents of Prachin Buri back to Cambodia. The Khmers also conquered Prachin Buri and Nakhon Nayok. Khun Dan gathered people, retreated, and set-up camp at Khao Cha-ngok and later defeated and expelled the Khmers from Nakhon Nayok. There is also hearsay about his supernatural powers. During World War II, the Japanese army set-up camp at Khao Cha-ngok. They vandalized and tore down the Shrine. Subsequently, a lot of the Japanese troops died mysteriously. It is believed that the spirit of Khun Dan took his revenge.

Phra Phutthachai or Wat Phra Chai (พระพุทธฉายหรือวัดพระฉาย) was formerly named “Wat Khao Cha-ngok”. At first it was a painting on a cliff face of a small hill near Khao Cha-ngok. There is no exact history of Phra Phutthachai, however, but from word of mouth it is said that, originally, the painting depicted various images of Buddha in many postures. In the year of 1942, the Army’s Map Department built a marble quarry at the foot of the hill and restored and enhanced the Buddha images. Phra Phutthachai is sacred to the townspeople. Every year during the 3rd month of the lunar calendar, the Phra Phutthachai Worship festivity is held.

Be hind the temple is “Namtok Phra Chai” (Phra Chai Waterfall), a small waterfall that cascades some 30 metres from a cliff into a basin below which is completely filled during the rainy season. Locals and visitors alike can enjoy themselves in the basin. Besides these attractions, there are several sporting activities available for the public including shooting, which is done at a standard shooting range. There is also canoeing and a rescue sledge that can be enjoyed at the Academy’s reservoir. There is also an 18-hole golf course in the Academy compound. Group activities like trekking and camping are available at Khao Cha-ngok. Climbing either a real cliff or an artificial one is possible with at least 7 days advanced booking. Accommodation and restaurants are available. For more information, contact the Tourist Information Centre, located in the Military Housewife Association Building, Royal Military Academy branch, during the time of 08.00-16.00, Tel: 0 3739 3010-5 ext. 62961-2.

Luang Pho Sian Nakhon (หลวงพ่อเศียรนคร) the revered Buddha image of the townspeople is enshrined at Bunnak Rakkitaram temple (Wat Tam). It is assumed that this sacred Buddha image dates back to Phra Ruang Era of the Sukhothai period. During an excavation at a whisky brewery, located near Wat Nang Hong, Tambon Tha Chang in the year 1952, the head of a Buddha image was found. The head was kept at a school then known as Nayok Phitthaya School (at present no longer exists), later it was enshrined at Wat Bunnak Rakkitaram. In 1968, the rest of the parts of the Buddha image other than the Buddha’s head was recreated and a new chapel was constructed to house the new completed Buddha image. Since then, the Buddha image came to be known as “Luang Pho Sian Nakhon”.

Lord Buddha’s Footprint Replica at Khao Nang Buat (รอยพระพุทธบาทจำลองเขานางบวช), housed in a square structure with four arches and a pyramidal roof (mondop) on top of Nang Buat hill. The hill is located in Tambon Sarika, which is 9 kilometres from Nakhon Nayok town. The hill is about 100 metres high with a concrete staircase running from the base of the hill to the top comprising 227 steps. This replica of the Lord Buddha’s Footprint was built in 1858 on the 8th day of the waning moon in the 12th month of the lunar calendar in the Year of the Cock. The festivity to worship the Lord Buddha’s Footprint Replica at Khao Nang Buat is held annually in the middle of the fifth month of the lunar calendar.

Ban Dong Lakhon Archeological Site (แหล่งโบราณคดีบ้านดงละคร) is located in Tambon Dong Lakhon, which is 9 kilometres to the south of Nakhon Nayok town. It was formerly called “Mueang Lap Lae (เมืองลับแล)” (a mysterious town).

It is the site of the location of the old town during the Khmer period. It is surrounded by earthen walls and culverts that the locals call “San Khu Mueang” meaning double city walls with water canals all around, which is of Dvaravati style common in the central region of Thailand. There were two peaks of civilization, of which the first was between the 14th to the 16th Buddhist Century which was of Dvaravati culture. The second peak was between the 17th to the 19th Buddhist century which was a blend of Khmer culture and a pre-Ayutthaya architectural style. It is believed that during 19th Buddhist century, Dong Lakhon people might have migrated to live along the major rivers in Nakhon Nayok and is assumed to be associated with Si Mahosot town, which was 55 kilometres away. Artefacts discovered in this are include; an elaborate gold head of a Buddha image about the size of a fingertip, crab and elephant ring-stamps, bronze ring, glass beads, rock beads, and bronze ear-rings.

According to legend, Mueang Lup Lae was a town where the Queen of Cambodia resided, thus other people’s comings and goings weren’t easy. The town itself was teeming with dense tall trees, visitors to this town often are not able to find their way out and are kept in the mystical town’s area. Prior to a Buddhist day and on a Buddhist day itself, locals are often quoted as being able to hear classical Thai music, resembling the music played during the performance of a Thai classical play in a palace. Thus the locals named the area “Dong Lakhon (play)”, and another assumption is that Dong Lakhon might have come from “Dong Nakhon”. The Fine Arts Department registered Dong Lakhon as a national historical site on March 8, 1935.

37th Quartermaster Infantry of Japanese Military Memorial (อน���สรณ์สถานกองพลทหารญี่ปุ่นที่37), located at Phrommani Temple, Tambon Sarika, 5 kilometres on the way to Namtok Sarika-Nang Rong. During World War II, the 37th Quartermaster Infantry of the Japanese Military camped at this temple. The Friend of Asian Alliance War Association built the memorial in 1992 to honour the 7,920 Thai soldiers who were recruited into the Japanese 37th Quartermaster Infantry that died in the war. Their relics were moved from the temple and placed in the memorial altar.

In the church, there is a very elaborately-decorated Buddha image whose lips are red. According to hearsay, the Buddha image had been brought from Vientiane by the migrating Laotians during a war. The Buddha image is commonly called “Phra Phuttarup Pak Daeng” (the red lipped Buddha image). Normally the chapel is closed, but visitors can see the Buddha image with the approval of the abbot.

Namtok Sarika (น้ำตกสาริกา) is the most famous waterfall of Nakhon Nayok, located in Tambon Sarika. It is situated to the northeast of Nakhon Nayok town, in the Khao Yai National Park. The waterfall cascades down in 9 levels, of which the top level is 200 metres up. Each level (of 9 levels) of the falls has a large basin, which could hold a large amount of water in the rainy season, but it is dried up in dry season. Accommodation, restaurants and souvenir shops are available. The local products of brooms and artificial flowers made from wild pine are sold here.

Getting there: a very convenient drive along highway number 3049 for about 12 kilometres, then take a left turn into Highway 3050 for another 3 kilometres

Nearby, there is “Sarika Cave” where the revered monk “Luang Pu Man” resided on his religious missions from 1917-1920. The cave’s outer feature is that of a hill, within the cave, there are residences of monks and nuns as well as Luang Pu Man’s meditation place and a chapel which is located at the very top of the walk way up the hill.

Lan Rak Falls or Tat Hin Kong Falls (น้ำตกลานรักหรือน้ำตกตาดหินกอง), situated in Tambon Phrommani on the way to Namtok Sarika and Namtok Nang Rong. You can get there by taking a left turn at Prachakasem intersection (about 8 kilometres on the route to the Saithong reservior), and then continue on a laterite road for another 5 kilometres. The attractive waterfall originates from a small stream passing through a large rocky formation at the end, then flowing strongly through the large rocky formation at the foot of a small hill. This is a very unique and beautiful waterfall, but which can be seen only in the rainy season.

Wang Takhrai (วังตะไคร้), located in Tambon Hing Tang near Namtok Nang Rong and is 16 kilometres from Nakhon Nayok town. The place is owned by Krommamuen Nakhon Sawan Sakpinij and M.R. Phantip Bariphat. Wang Takhrai is filled with huge, shady trees and has a small stream running through. There are also a variety of beautiful species of ornamental flowers and plants. It is located on an area of 1,500 Rais (about 600 acres) of land. A drive around the area can be made by car. A one-day trip in Wang Takhrai is possible; nevertheless, a camping site for an overnight stay is available. Admissions are:

 * car (with 5 persons)	50 baht
 * visitor	5 baht

Nang Rong Falls or Namtok Nang Rong (น้ำตกนางรอง), situated in Tambon Hin Tang. It is 20 kilometres to the northeast of Nakhon Nayok town on Highway Number 3049. The waterfall originates from a source on a high mountain in Khao Yai National Park. It cascades down several levels onto rock formations, flowing through verdant forests. Although at every level the height of the falls is not much, but its natural scenic beauty is what makes it a popular tourist attraction during the weekends. Within the falls ground, bungalows and restaurants are available. Admission fees are:

 * Bus (including passengers)	100	Baht
 * Car (including passengers)	50	Baht
 * Van	100	Baht
 * Motorcycle	10	Baht
 * Visitor	3	Baht

Huai Prue Reservoir (อ่างเก็บน้ำห้วยปรือ), situated in Tambon Khao Phra. It is accessed by taking a left turn at kilometre 1 marker of the Namtok Sarika-Nang Rong road into Khao Thurian road for another 11 kilometres. This is a small reservoir by volume but has a large water surface. The reservoir is filled all year round and surrounded by an unpaved road. Because of the reservoir’s beautiful landscape, the Tourism Authority of Thailand is developing the area into a real recreation attraction for the general public and, due to the possible use of the reservoir for rowing, canoeing, boat sailing, and windsurfing in some season, into a potential water sports centre of Nakhon Nayok as well.

Sai Thong Reservoir (อ่างเก็บน้ำทรายทอง), located in Tambon Khao Phra, on the same road as Huai Prue Reservoir, but 4 kilometres further away. This small reservoir offers a natural mountainous landscape. Two kilometres further from the reservoir is the Sai Thong Falls. The small waterfall runs all throughout the year. The fall is accessible by a thirty minute walk from the reservoir.

OUT-OF CITY ATTRACTIONS

Amphoe Ban Na
Namtok Ka-ang (น้ำตกกะอาง) is situated in Tambon Khao Peum. It is accessed by driving from Nakhon Nayok town on Suwanson road to Amphoe Ban Na. Upon reaching Amphoe Ban Na, across from the Ban Na Police Station, there is a road that goes to the waterfall. The distance down this road is another 11 kilometres. Ka-ang is a small but lovely waterfall. Physically, it is like water flowing through a field of big stones. The water cascades through gaps between large rocks. This waterfall does not yet have any facilities for tourists, but offers only natural beauty. Nearby, there is an Agriculture Transplanting station of the Forestry Department. In the vicinity is a small hill that enshrines the Buddha image in an attitude of subduing Mara.

Phra Phutthabat Si Roi or 4 Traces of Lord Buddha Footprint (พระพุทธบาทสี่รอย) is enshrined in a square pavilion with arches on all four sides in Wat Thong Yoi. It is a valuable historical site, representing splendid casting technique of the Thai craftsman of old. The worship fair is held annually on the 15th day of the 3rd lunar calendar.

Amphoe Pak Phli
Namtok Wang Muang (น้ำตกวังม่วง), located in Tambon Na Hinlad. From Suwannason Road, take the left turn leading to Amphoe Pak Phli and keep going for another 16 kilometres. The route is in good condition all the way to the waterfall. The waterfall features cascades through lines upon lines of big boulders and falling to a basin. The area is amongst lush forest. If you should desire to go to the top of the falls, it is a 2 kilometre walk uphill.

Thudongkhasathan Thawon Nimit (ธุดงคสถานถาวรนิมิตร) is a meditation centre of monks, novices, nuns, and the general public. It is located at Ban Bung Khe, Tambon Nong Saeng. The trip to the centre starts from Suwannason Road from Nakhon Nayok town, taking a left turn onto the Nakhon Nayok-Tha Dan route (Highway Number 3239) for 8 kilometres, and then take another right turn and drive on for another 6 kilometres. The peaceful meditation centre occupies an area of 500 Rais (200 acres) and is situated near a large mountain range surrounded by big and small mountains. It is situated in an area of big shady trees. There are hundreds of shelters for monks, nuns, and general public to practice the Buddhist perceptions. The centre is under the patronage of Thawon Chittathawaro Wongmalai Foundation. For more information, contact Tel: 037 313596.

Namtok Heo Narok (น้ำตกเหวนรก) is located to the south of Khao Yai National Park. This is a 3-tiered large waterfall with its first tier at 60 metres high. A great volume of water cascades from this tier to the 2nd and 3rd tiers. During the rainy season, there is such a lot of water that the flow is frightening and will drop straight down at 90 degrees to a lower chasm.

Getting there:
 * By Car: driving from Nakhon Nayok town on Suwannason Road, take a left turn to Highway Number 3077 at Neon Hom intersection or Naraesuan roundabout in Prachin Buri province, and then continue driving to kilometre 24 marker.

 * By Bus: The Transport Co., Ltd. operates Bangkok-Prachin Buri buses from the Northern Bus Terminal on Kamphaengphet 2 Road. Getting off at Naresuan intersection and then ride a chartered local truck (Song Thaeo) to Khao Yai National Park.

Amphoe Ongkharak
Chao Pho Ongkharak Shrine (ศาลเจ้าพ่อองครักษ์) is situated on a bank of the Nakhon Nayok River in Tambon San Sai Mun. Legend says that after King Rama V ascended to the throne, he visited the province of Prachin Buri on the Royal Barge via the Nakhon Nayok River. The King stayed overnight (in the area where Chao Pho Ongkhrak Shrine is located today) and during his stay, his bodyguard was sick and later passed away. To honour his bodyguard (ongkharak), under his command, the Ongkharak Shrine was built. Presently, Ongkharak is a name of the district in Nakhon Nayok. In front of the shrine in the middle of the Nakhon Nayok river, there is a sacred whirlpool, of which the water taken is used in royal ceremonies. When the present king, King Bhumibol Adulyadej ascended to the throne, water from this whirlpool was used during the ceremony.

Ornamental Plants and Floral Centre (ศูนย์ไม้ดอกไม้ประดับ) is located on Rangsit-Ongkharak Road. On this road, especially at the intersection of khlong 15, there are various plant nurseries that grow a large variety of ornamental plants and flora which are sold to every corner of the country. It is the largest plant and flowers centre in Thailand where tourists can buy them at wholesale price.

Attractions along Jungle Treks

Namtok Mae Plong (น้ำตกแม่ปล้อง) is a 7-tiered beautiful waterfall. The highest tier’s falls is no more than 12 metres. It resembles Namtok Heo Narok or Heo Suwat and originates from Huai (stream) Takian or Huai Somphong Yai that flows from Khao Fa Pha.

Namtok Tat Ta Phu (น้ำตกตาดตาภู่), another waterfall that originates from Huai Raya and is 2 kilometres from Namtok Manao. This waterfall is about 30 metres high. It cascades down on rock formations and flows through a field of boulders. The waterfall runs all year through. Near Namtok Tat Ta Phu are grassy fields - a source of food for various species of wild life which may be seen while trekking.

Namtok Tat Ta Khong (น้ำตกตาดตาคง) also originates from Huai Raya and is 4 kilometres from Namtok Tat Ta Phu. This waterfall drops down from a very steep high cliff. During the rainy season, the water level is higher and the water flows much stronger. The rocks close to the falls become very slippery making it not possible to climb down to the lower levels of the falls. However, during the dry season, the flow of water is much gentler. Visitors can climb down to the lower levels of the falls and witness the beauty of the surroundings. There are also wildlife near the falls, like at Namtok Tat Ta Phu. Furthermore, camping around this area is also recommended.

Namtok Wang Manao (น้ำตกวังมะนาว) is a small waterfall of natural beauty. The falls itself is only about 3 metres high but runs all throughout the year. Around the waterfall, you will find virgin forest with an abundant variety of trees as well as interesting herbs. Walking along these jungle tracks, you will be able to see various species of plants as well as wildlife including gibbons, other monkeys, hornbills, civets, red jungle fowls, porcupines, deer, barking deer, or even wild elephants. Guides, porters, and camping facilities are available. For more information, contact Nakhon Nayok Provincial Office Tel: 037 311-273.

Recreation Activities
Canoeing in Nakhon Nayok River (ล่องแคนูในลำน้ำนครนายก) is fast becoming a popular sport that has made Nakhon Nayok famous. The best time of year for canoeing is during the months of June to October. Canoes and its equipment are available for rent in many places. A starting point for canoes is at the foot of the Wang Takhrai bridge, Khlong Nang Rong, or Ban Pa Mak all the way down Nakhon Nayok River, passing many rapids (Kaeng Sam Chan possesses the strongest current). There are several disembarking spots leading to the main road like Ban Dong, Kaeng Sam Chan, Wang Kuttapha, and Wang Yao. The distances between these points are about 2-5 kilometres. The activity is meant for both recreation and exciting exercise, allow one to be close to nature by canoeing (A canoe is a boat with slim head and rear.  There are many different kinds, but the most suitable one for fighting strong currents is the kayak). For more information, contact TAT local office at tel: 037312282, 037312284 or Sarika Canoe Centre tel: 037 393-245 and Sea Sport Co. tel: 023169150, 316029382.

Mountain Bikes (จักรยานเสือภูเขา) is another activity as popular as canoeing. This activity can be taken up all year round. For those with their own mountain bikes, the Tourism Authority of Thailand would like to suggest 4 trails:

First: Wang Takhrai-Wang Yao route with a distance of 22 kilometres, beginning at the foot of the Wang Takhrai bridge, passing magnificent scenery and camping sites;

Second: Khao Cha-ngok - Khao Thurian route with a distance of 24 kilometres. The route starts from Chak Dao Resort, passing the Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy and reservoirs;

Third: Wat Phrammani-Khao Mot Dam route with a distance of 31 kilometres. Cycling begins at Wat Phrammani, passing mountainous scenery and bird sanctuary;

Fourth: Wat Kiriwan - Wat Noen Hom route with a distance of 55 kilometres. Beginning at Wat Khiriwan, passing picturesque Khlong Si Siat reservoir, Wat Khao Phra Thammakhan to Neon Hom intersection, Prachin Buri. This route offers lovely views of rice fields, houses, and mountain ranges. Evening pedaling is possible on this trail.

Mountain bikes are available for rent at many places along the route leading to Namtok Nang Rong. Each of them would recommend different cycling tracks and provides local guides on bikes. Most of the tracks pass through fruit orchards, forests, mountains, and waterfalls. Cycling should begin at dawn to avoid the heat since pedaling on each route takes at least 2 hours. Starting the trip early means one would have more time to enjoy the charming natural environment in the morning. There are private Mountain Bicycling services including Phae Canoe Camp Tel: 931-6048 or Sarika Canoe Club Tel: 037 393-245. For more information, contact the Tourism Authority of Thailand, Central Region, District 8 Tel: 037 312-282, 312-284.

Khao Yai-Nakhon Nayok Jungle Treks (ท่องไพรเขาใหญ่-นครนายก) is usually held during December to June. The trekking aims to promote the study of nature and ecology, as well as creating good understanding in natural resources and environmental conservation.

Khao Yai National Park, the first national park of Thailand was declared a national park on September 18, 1962. It covers areas of four provinces: Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Ratchasima, Prachin Buri, and Saraburi. The park occupies an area of 2,168 square kilometers and consists of virgin forest, tropical forest, streams, waterfalls, wildlife, and a variety of plants. The most suitable visiting time is during the Thai winter, from October to February when it is cold at night until the next morning. The highest point is Khao Rom Peak, which is 1,351 metres above sea level. There are four Jungle Treks that are presently arranged, every trek begins at Namtok Nang Rong:

First: trekking through Namtok Nang Rong - Namtok Sai Yong Hin – Namtok Heo Mahesak – Namtok Nang NonTat Ta Mong - Namtok Tat Ta Mong Khong - Namtok Tat Ta Phu - Namtok Manao to Khao Yai National Park. The total distance of this route is about 20 kilometres, 3 days and 2 nights are needed.

Second: a 2-day trek along Namtok Nang Rong and Namtok Mae Plong. The total distance of this route is about 10 kilometres, 2 days are needed.

Third: a trek along canals from Namtok Nang Rong to Khao Thamon. The total distance of this route is about 14 kilometres, 2 days are needed.

Fourth: a 1-day trek along Nang Rong canal passing a cluster of waterfalls at Sai Yong Hin, Bat cave, Namtok Heo Mahesak and back on the same track. The total distance of this route is about 4 kilometres, 1 day is needed.

Getting Ready for Jungle Trekking
 * Acquire as much information as you can about the trekking routes in order to prepare yourself properly, since each route provides different kinds of facilities.

 * Wear comfortable and close-fitting clothes. Bring a cap, socks, and jacket.  Their colours should be in-tune with the surrounding like green, brown, blue, gray and black.

 * Bring along light and only necessary trekking equipment such as a backpack, tent or hammock, sleeping bag, food, water, raincoat, piece of plastic mat, first aid kit, a knife, flashlight, a compass, sweater, canvas shoes or trekking shoes, insecticide, tick prevention spray and others.

 * Do not wear any kind of perfume while trekking since insects like bees would mistake it for nectar scent and might attack you. On the other hand, if the wild animals should catch an abnormal scent, they may not search for food in that area again.

Do’s & Don’ts while Trekking

 * Trek only on designated paths in order to preserve natural resources, prevent getting lost, and avoid other dangerous incidents.

 * Do not pick up or destroy natural objects including rocks, earth, sand, plants, or any living animals.

 * Be especially wary against starting a bush fire accidentally from a cigarette or from the remains of a camp fire. If you must light a camp fire, do so only in a specially prepared area and take special care to extinguish it completely after use.

 * Do not make or create loud noises as it may frighten wild animals which may in turn cause their deaths or a stampede which may be dangerous to the visitors.

 * Do not litter in the forest, do not throw garbage about, because even a plastic wrapper of a candy can be the cause of death to wild animals that eat it. If trash is found, please help to remove it from the forest.

 * Do not feed the animals.

Events & Festivals
Tak Bat Thewo Rohana Fair (งานประเพณีตักบาตรเทโวโรหนะ), a festivity where offerings are made to monks. The festivity is held annually on the 1st day of the waning moon of the 11th month of the lunar calendar or the end of the Buddhist lent. During the festivity, 109 monks descend from Wat Khao Nang Buat to accept offerings from the townspeople.

Sweet Plum Mango and Nakhon Nayok Products Fair (งานวันมะปรางหวานและของดีนครนายก) takes place annually during February-April in front of the City Hall. It is held to promote Ma-prang (sweet plum mangoes), and other agricultural products and handicrafts. The fair features a procession of agricultural products, sweet plum mangoes contests, agricultural products contests, sweet plum mango beauty pageants, student performances, goods stalls of the public and private sectors as well as selling of inexpensive goods.

Thai Merit Making (Sat Thai) & Long boat Racing Festival (งานประเพณีสารทไทยและแข่งเรือยาวประเพณี) is annually held in October along Khlong 29 at Wat Thawiphon Rangsan, Amphoe Ongkharak. The fair showcases a variety of long boats racing, making Krayasat contest (Krayasat is a sticky paste made from rice, bean, sesame, and sugar, usually eaten during Sat Thai Festival), merit making on Sat Thai day, and local entertainment at night.

Ongkharak Ornamental Plants and Flowers Fair (งานมหกรรมไม้ดอกไม้ประดับองครักษ์) is annually held in April at Khlong 15, Tambon Bang Pla Kot, Amphoe Ongkharak. The contests of ornamental plants and flowers, mini-garden arrangement contests, and an academic exhibition regarding plants and flowers are also held.

Local Products and Souvenirs

 * Sweet Plum Mango (Ma-prang, มะปราง) is the most well known fruit of Nakhon Nayok (it is a sweet fruit and is similar to “Ma-yong-chit” - a fruit of sour taste). The harvesting season of Ma-prang is during February to March.  They are grown in a number of orchards located on Nakhon Nayok-Namtok Sarika route.  If you should be travelling to this area during the harvest season, you can buy Ma-prang at the orchards.

 * Dala (ดอกดาหลา) is a flower of Etlingera or Jack Jr. Rosemary. Along Highway Number 3049 as well as the route to Wang Ri Resort, a number of Dala orchards can be found.  For your own try at flower cutting and a direct purchase of flowers from the orchards is possible at Suan Dala Saeng Thong (off Highway 3049, take a left turn for 12 kilometres).  The Dala’s blooming season is from November to May.

 * Marble Products (ผลิตภัณฑ์หินอ่อน): A marble quarry is located near Nakhon Nayok hospital, Amphoe Mueang, and at the intersection to Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy. There are several products including vases, kettles, watches, bracelets, lampshades, and nameplates available.

 * Bamboo Products (ผลิตภัณฑ์จากไม้ไผ่) Bamboo products are produced in Tambon Sarika, Amphoe Mueang. Products include a miniature sail boat, a peacock, and human faces.  These products are sold around Sarika, Nang Rong waterfalls as well as Wang Takhrai.

 * Brooms (ไม้กวาด) Manufactured in Tambon Sarika, Amphoe Mueang, Tambon Na Hin Lat, Tambon Khok Kruat, Tambon Nong Saeng, Amphoe Pak Phli. The brooms are made with indigenous grass and the broomstick is made from a piece of wood from a tree of the Apocynaceae family or made of bamboo.  It can be found throughout the province.

 * Doormats made from scrap cloth (พรมทอจากเศษผ้า) are produced in Tambon Khao Phoem, Amphoe Ban Na. The scrap cloth, also made into bed covers, are sold in various sizes at furniture stalls of Ban Na market and Amphoe Mueang.

 * Khanom Pia (ขนมเปี๊ยะ) is made at Amphoe Ban Na. It was so good that it received the “Shell Chuan Chim” mark, a guarantee of a good taste.  It is available throughout Nakhon Nayok.

 * Sugared Banana Chips (Kluai Chap) (กล้วยฉาบ) and sugared sweet potato and sugared taro chips are produced in Tambon Sarika, Amphoe Mueang. They are sold around the Sarika and Nang Rong waterfalls.

 * Preserved Fruits (ผลไม้แช่อิ่ม) such as star apples, tamarinds, mangos, santol, and lime. They are sold at the Ban Yai intersection, Amphoe Mueang or Dong Chok Di Housewife Association at Ban Dong, Tambon Sarika, Amphoe Mueang.  The supply of fruits comes from fruit orchards of the members; some of the cultivated fruits are sold fresh while others are converted into various products.  Fruits such as mangoes, jackfruits, pineapples, star apples, tamarinds, and garcianias, which are preserved, are available seasonally.

Amphoe Mueang

 * Cho Cha Muang Resort (ช่อมะมวงรีสอร์ท) 92 Mu 2 Tambon Sarika (Tel: 0 3732 8298), 20 rooms: 800-3,000 baht

 * Chulachomklao Royal Military Academy Guesthouse (เรือนรับรองสโมสรนายทหารโรงเรียนนายร้อย จปร.) Khao Changok, Tambon Phrommani (Tel: 0 3739 3126, 0 3739 3119), 27 rooms: 600-1,500 baht

 * Jak Dao Resort (จักรดาวรีสอร์ท) 182 Mu 3 Suwannason Road,Tambon Phrommani (Tel: 0 3739 3162-3  Fax: 0 3738 2423), 35 rooms: 900-6,000 baht

 * Kobkua Palace (กอบเกื้อพาเลช) 420 Thongchai Road (Tel: 0 3731 1633, 0 3731 1644), 125 rooms: 200-900 baht

 * Namtok Nang Rong (บ้านพักน้ำตกนางรอง) Nang Rong Waterfall (Tel: 0 3731 1286), 7 houses: 700-1,500 baht

 * North Bungalow (นอธบังกาโล) 145 Mu 5, Ban Yai Road (Tel: 0 3731 1814, 0 3731 1938), 40 rooms: 200-400 baht

 * Panchai Hotel (ปันใจ) 342/1 Suwannason Road, Opposite Nakhon Nayok Hospital (Tel: 0 3731 1399), 60 rooms: 180-350 baht

 * Pho Daeng (โพธิ์แดงรีสอร์ท) 124 Mu 2 Sarika-Nang Rong Road, Tambon Sarika (Tel: 0 3732 8265-6 Fax: 0 3732 7267), 23 houses: 500-3,500 baht

 * Sida Resort (สีดา รีสอร์ท) 120 Mu 3 Sarika-Nang Rong Road (Tel: 311600, 313560-1 Bangkok Tel: 0 2223 9328, 0 2226 6425 Fax: 2241053), 206 rooms: 1,600-2,300 baht 22 houses: 3,700 baht

 * Suan Phoen Kan (สวนเพื่อนกัน) Ban Tha Chai, Tambon Hin Tang (Tel: 0 3721 1182 Bangkok Tel: 0 2537 8361, 0 2936 1051) houses and tents: 100 baht per person

 * Thansamai (ทันสมัย) Sena Phinit Road, Next to Wat Pho Nayok (Tel: 0 3731 1388), 30 rooms: 70-180 baht

 * Wang Ri Resort (วังรี รีสอร์ท) 143 Mu 12, Tambon Khao Phra (Tel: 0 3731 3576 Bangkok Tel: 0 2641 4816-9), 100 rooms: 1,000-12, 00 baht

 * Wang Takhrai (วังตะไคร้) 22/1 Mu 1 Sarika-Nang Rong Road (Tel: 0 3731 2275), 28 housess: 600-1,500 baht

 * White House (ไวท์เฮ้าท์) 140/1 Mu1 Tambon Tha Chang (Tel: 0 3731 3152), 35 rooms: 350-600 baht

Amphoe Ban Na

 * Chonlaphruk Resort (ชลพฤกษ์รีสอร์ท) 64 Mu 10 Rangsit-Nakhon Nayok Road (Tel: 0 3738 2092 Bangkok Tel: 0 2513 1351) 50 rooms: 1,400-3,000 baht

--(WT-en) globe-trotter 20:35, 1 February 2010 (EST)

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Talk:Nakhon Pathom

TAT Listings
Moved many listings of TAT to Talk:Nakhon Pathom/Listings for future reference. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 00:51, 3 February 2010 (EST)

title: Talk:Nakhon Pathom


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Talk:Nakhon Pathom (province)

Source from TAT
Born Distinction on behalf of Tourism Authority of Thailand would like to present all the true, accurate and up to date information about all the destinations in Thailand. All the information brought on to the WIKITravel are the true source from Tourism Authority of Thailand.

So please do not delete the work.--(WT-en) Borndistinction 03:29, 5 February 2008 (EST)

Sleep listings
A big list of listings, but no personal traveler advice among them. So I list these listings here, if you have visited one, please add it back with your personal experience in the description.

Amphoe Mueang

 * Chuan Dee Bungalow (ชวนดี บังกะโล) 216 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 34242003-4, 0 3425 0835 Fax: 0 3421 9095), 68 rooms: 160-300 baht
 * Ko Erawan Hotel (ก.เอราวัณ) 11 Mu.1 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 3425 3838-9, 0 3425 3871-4 Fax: 0 3425 3839), 110 rooms: 200-400 baht
 * Mit Phaisan (มิตรไพศาล) 120/30 Phaya Phan Road (Tel: 0 3424 2422, 0 3425 5444), 59 rooms: 250-400 baht
 * Mit Samphan Hotel (มิตรสัมพันธ์) 2/11-13 Ratchadamnoen Road (Tel: 0 3424 1422, 0 3425 2010), 11 rooms: 250 baht
 * Nakhon Inn (นครอินน์) 55 Ratwithi Road (Tel: 0 3425 1152-4, 0 3421 0489-93 Fax: 0 3425 4998), 70 rooms: 525-675 baht
 * Panthong (พานทอง) 300/202 Ying Pao Road (Tel: 0 3425 6775, 0 3425 4326), 50 rooms: 300-350 baht
 * Piman Hotel (พิมาน) 266 Mu1 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 3424 3555, 0 3425 3875-6, 0 3425 7892), 50 rooms: 200-400 baht
 * River Hotel (ริเวอร์) 1156 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 3425 0865, 0 3425 4126, 0 3428 0440-6 Fax: 0 3425 0865), 180 rooms: 550-1,000 baht
 * Siam Hotel (สยาม) 2/1-5 Ratchadamnoen Road (Tel: 0 3425 2230, 0 3424 1754 Fax: 0 3425 7317), 43 rooms: 220-340 baht
 * Sunya Hotel (ซันย่า) 101 Mu 1 Phetkasem Road, Tambon Lam Phaya (Tel: 0 3424 1282, 0 3425 8601-2), 38 rooms: 150-250 baht
 * Suthathip (สุธาทิพย์) 44/1 Thetsaban Road (Tel: 0 3424 1940, 0 3424 2242), 34 rooms: 150-300 baht
 * Tantawan Hotel (ทานตะวัน) 1/2-9 Mu 1, Ying Pao Road (Tel: 03425 6750, 0 3425 6517, 0 3421 0343-4 Fax: 0 3425 6754), 33 rooms: 350-400 baht
 * Whale Hotel (เวล) 151/79 Ratwithi Road (Tel: 0 3425 1020-4, 0 3424 3072 Fax: 0 3425 3864), 514 rooms: 450-1,500 baht

Amphoe Phutthamonthon

 * The Royal Gems Lodge 2000 (เดอะรอยัลเจมส์ลอดจ์ 2000) Tambon Salaya (Tel: 0 3429 7723-6 Bangkok Tel: 0 2441 0300-3), 50 rooms: 2,000-3,200 baht

 * Salaya Pavilion Hotel, Tambon Salaya, Tel: (662) 441-0568-9, Fax: (662) 441-0554, Email: rsvn@salayapavilion.com, www.salayapavilion.com, rooms start at 2,900 THB

Amphoe Samphran

 * Dream Hotel (ดรีม) 10/93 Mu 8 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 2420 0085, 0 2420 5114 Fax: 0 2431 2022), 50 rooms: 500 baht
 * Rose Garden (โรส การ์เด้น) 21 Mu 2 Phetkasem Road (Tel: 0 34322544-7, 0 34322588-93 Bangkok Tel: 0 2295 3261-4), 80 rooms and 7 houses: 500-15,000 baht

Amphoe Nakhon Chai Si

 * Green House Bungalow (กรีนเฮ้าส์บังกะโล) 63/43 Mu 3 Tambon Bang Krabao (Tel: 0 3433 1489), 14 rooms: 100-350 baht.

Amphoe Kamphaeng Saen

 * Sahamit Bungalow (สหมิตรบังกะโล) 155 Mu 1 Sukhaphiban 8 Road, Tambon Kamphaeng Saen (Tel: 0 34351164, 0 3435 1675), 20 rooms: 100-300 baht

title: Talk:Nakhon Pathom (province)