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Talk:Gyeongju

Buses
I recommend avoiding the buses in Gyeongju as much as possible, as buses back from Oreung, and to places like Samneung never seem to turn up, despite being listed at the bus stops. (Added by Anonymous user in 2008)

 * For the record, this was not my experience. The contributor above is possibly not able to read Korean which is why they had issue Andrewssi2 (talk) 01:19, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

German article
There are not many German articles about Korea, however https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Gyeongju looks like it is more detailed than the English version. I have marked it for translating some new content. Andrewssi2 (talk) 01:19, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Sure. Yesterday I worked a little bit on this article and thereby looked at the German article too and I think it has great potential. If it wouldn't be for the rather meager eat section, Gyeongju might someday become Destination of the Month or Off the Beaten Path. ϒpsilon (talk) 05:35, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Yes, I noticed and thanks for that! Gyeongju is actually relatively unknown outside of Korea and although not quite Angor Wat, it is definitely worth a day at least on anyone's itinerary in South Korea. Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:53, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Everything from de and fr is now brought over and translated. Will eventually look up the missing coordinates as well. As I said, it's just the ridiculously few Eats and Drinks that are preventing Gyeongju from becoming a Guide. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:21, 17 August 2014 (UTC)

 * This is great! I agree about the restaurant listings.. I might try and get over there again later this year and research that again. I remember there are some great places offering primarily Korean side dishes, and the town is famous for its red bean cakes. Andrewssi2 (talk) 01:15, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Geographic limit?
After taking in some of the German listings, it becomes apparent that some sites that are totally associated with Gyeongju are actually a good distance away. (Just take a look at the dynamic map at zoom 9). I think we need to get all the listings brought over first, geo-coded and cleaned up, however I feel long term we may need to create another article for those sites closer to the coast? Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * There's currently something wrong with the dynamic map (as Ikan pointed out below) - it gives me the 403 Forbidden error. If there are just say, three or four of them we can put them into the Go next section. Otherwise we need to have one or several articles of the "Gyeongju countryside". In Suriname we (well, it was mostly WiDi and Julia who did the hard work) made "collection" articles of villages/small towns; basically region articles with heading for the towns and listings. Maybe something similar could be done with the sights scattered around Gyeongju?
 * Where should we draw the limit then? I would suggest the limits of the city's public bus network. If you would need a car, taxi, tour or intercity bus to go there, then that sight would be placed in the "Gyeongju countryside" article. ϒpsilon (talk) 11:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * If I were to make a suggestion at this point, it would probably be Gyeongju city limits + Bomunho lake nearby. However I'm willing to wait to get all the listing on here first before making a decision. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:57, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Map not working
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /wikivoyage/w/poimap2.php on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/2.2.22 Server at tools.wmflabs.org Port 80 Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:46, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm sure I saw that message at another article last week. Any idea what it means? I assumed it would be a temporary issue. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:55, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * User:Mey2008 and User:Torty3 are our POI map experts. They can probably help.ϒpsilon (talk) 12:07, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

 * I doubt it is specifically to do with this article. Other articles such as Tegernsee are also affected.
 * This is a good case in point on why relying on external service providers with no SLA may be a 'challenging' idea. I'm very much in favor these days of dynamic maps, however the static maps are definately easier to keep available at all times. Andrewssi2 (talk) 12:33, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I too noticed that all dynamic maps I've tried to open give that same error (also those without any listings) and that's really annoying. Dynamic maps is one more example of something that is fantastic... as long as it works. ϒpsilon (talk) 12:43, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
 * The entire wmflabs-server is down. We can only wait. - Full-screen outputs (view full-screen, geo, article POIs) I could redirect to the old server. -- Joachim Mey2008 (talk) 13:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Galleries
Andrewㅆㅣ, Image policy is not very happy about Gyeongju's layout. If we do expand the article with stuff from fr and de, we'd get more text and therefore more space for photos on the right side, however half of the pretty photos will still unfortunately have to go. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:41, 6 June 2014 (UTC)

 * The image galleries and actual images are taken directly from DE Wikivoyage. I don't have a major issue in removing them. Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

 * OK. I'll try to add the rest of the stuff from the other languages in the next couple of weeks and then remove photos that there's no place for. ϒpsilon (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

 * I was going to post about the galleries, too. I wanted to add this photo, but there really are too many images in this article already. The thing is, I don't know the city, so I'd rather defer to someone else to choose which images are most important for a prospective visitor to see. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:07, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 * That is a nice picture of a Silla crown from Gyeongju! However unfortunately it is not on display in Gyeongju but rather in the National Museum of Korea in Seoul's Yongsan district. I think it would make a good addition to that article? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 * According to the documentation of that photo and also according to the main page of Commons, where this is the Picture of the Day, it is in the National Museum in Gyeongju, not the one in Seoul. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:26, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 * OK, I didn't see that at the bottom. The image is hosted at this link which made no mention that it was hosted in the Gyeongju branch of the National Museum, hence my mistake. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 09:54, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 * If you can read Korean, why are you only ko-1 in your user page's Babel? :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:58, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

 * Reading is MUCH easier than writing! I hope to upgrade to a ko-2 at some point ;) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:07, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

[unindent] I see the galleries are still there. I'd like someone who's familiar with the city to get rid of the galleries and use the most important photos as regular thumbnails, preferably along with the photo of the golden crown of Silla that I linked to above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:26, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * And I still want to add that Featured image of that crown, but until the galleries are removed, I don't feel it's reasonable to do so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:45, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Are the photo galleries still here? I'm going ahead with the removing of the galleries (moving some of the photos there isn't space for in See towards the end of the article and removing the rest).
 * Eat and Drink need more listings and Connect needs some content too, and the article needs geo coordinates and after that we could finally consider upgrading the article to guide and nominate it for DotM. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:28, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Silla or Shilla?
Gyeongju was the capital of the Silla (신라 ) kingdom. I thought it was romanized as 'Shilla', but Wikipedia seems to disagree.

Is it OK to change all instances of 'Shilla' in this article? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:06, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Ping ϒpsilon --Andrewssi2 (talk) 05:06, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I've always seen it spelled "Silla", for whatever that's worth. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
 * ㅅ is usually romanized as "s". ϒpsilon (talk) 05:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Yes, not so easy. 신 in isolation is romanised as 'Shin', although the 라 afterwards modifies the preceding 'n' sound. :) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:12, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * ...and 라 is "ra" by itself! Hmm, apparently "Si" as a freestanding syllable such does get an extra "h" in between, at least sometimes. ϒpsilon (talk) 06:35, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Just to conclude this, I guess 'Shilla' was a pre-1980 romanization. Can I go through and update everything to 'Silla' ? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 02:22, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

 * I just updated it, for consistency's sake. Again, 소녀시대 is sometimes romanized as So Nyeo Shi Dae, or shorter SoShi...
 * BTW, I was considering we could have some Korean article as DotM sometime after the summer rains are over next year. This article is, I think, the strongest candidate. Some Geo coordinates, 10 more eateries, some style fixes (the photo galleries etc.) would be needed. No rush, etc... ϒpsilon (talk) 16:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Wow, this was never DOTM? (admittedly I don't pay much attention to that aspect of WV) I can spend some time on this. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't like the galleries and would suggest that the best of the images need to be turned into regular-sized thumbnails (or bigger if necessary), with the rest removed from the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:54, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Galleries to pictures?
There has been some discussion about removing galleries Wikivoyage_talk:Image_policy

I'm just wondering what the best strategy is for this article if we did remove them? I feel that Gyeongju does benefit from having many small thumbnails showing the many different sites, and I'm thinking moving even half of the images to the left hand side would be a bit messy.

I believe the listing template does allow for an image to be associated although I'm somewhat unclear what that would look like.

An alternative is that we could............ (deep breathe) create a montage and test out the communities newly found consensus on at least evaluating creative potential uses :) --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

 * The reason I don't like these (or most) galleries is that the images are too small in many cases for the reader to be able to see much. There's no important reason to try to have an exhaustive set of images of the city in a WV article - that's what the Commons link is for. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Oh, and montages would have the same problem: Each picture would be too small in many instances. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:37, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Banner discussion for DOTM
As with recent discussions, I'm not keen on replacing banners for the sake of change or a personal preference on aesthetics. However if we are going to propose Gyeongju for a DOTM, then I feel the existing banner of Anapji pond is just not quite doing justice to it. It looks like a generic Korean style traditional wooden building in a forest which can be found anywhere. I did a Flickr search and surprisingly I couldn't find many candidates. I created the banner of burial mounds to the right, although I feel it still isn't quite what we are looking for.

Can anyone else comment or make proposal of source images for this?

Thanks! --Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:41, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Both banners are good, but I'm not convinced that a banner of mounds of dirt would be superior to a banner with a traditional building in it, just because mounds of dirt are atypical in Korea. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:06, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Yes, I agree it wasn't a significant improvement. I hope someone might provide a suggestion for a better one ^-^ --Andrewssi2 (talk) 07:57, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

 * Both banners are quite good, though I have a slight preference for the current one. ϒpsilon (talk) 11:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

 * The point I was trying to make was that I think we need something better for DOTM. I need a CC source image that would make a better banner. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Something fishy in the climate table
The amount of rain for the autumn months in the climate table does look interesting. The difference from what is mentioned on WP is huge. 1125 mm for October is probably a typo with one thousand too much but then there's also 543 mm for August and September with comparatively a lot less in between. ϒpsilon (talk) 13:16, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

 * Well spotted! October is also a pleasant month without much rain at all so it is almost certainly a typo.
 * Another question is why should the values in Wikipedia and Wikivoyage be any different? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 19:42, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

 * I've changed the table to one compiled with data from Wikipedia (originally from ). It does not rain like in Cherrapunji in Gyeongju. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:52, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Ready to release?
Per my comment a while back I've been working on the article for a little while. What do you all say (especially Andrew), could we perhaps already upgrade the article to guide status and nominate it for DotM or is there something in the article that still needs work? --ϒpsilon (talk) 17:36, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

 * No replies? I guess I'm going ahead and nominating it now, then. ϒpsilon (talk) 20:47, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:Haad Rin

FMP thefts
Do we really need the personal grudge story in the sleep section?

 * I've moved it to Haad Rin and given it a quick tweak, improve as you see fit. ~ 58.8.2.182 06:56, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Haad yuan

Generally individual beaches are too small to have articles about them. However, on Thai islands, a "beach" is a cluster of hotels, restaurants, bars, etc. It's close to the size of a village.

Does this beach meet our criteria for Project:What is an article?? If so, is "Haad" and not "Hat" the right spelling? --(WT-en) Evan 12:26, 18 July 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Hackberry

VFD Discussion
A ghost town, population 544. The only thing to see is a handful of abandoned buildings. No place to stay. It hasn't appeared on official Texas highway maps since 1992, and even Google Maps can't find it properly.
 * Redirect to The Colony or Frisco (Texas). (WT-en) Texugo 19:43, 3 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Redirect I'll trust the locals here --(WT-en) Stefan (sertmann) talk 17:58, 8 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Any further guidance on which of the two towns to redirect to? Barring further clarification, and based on a five minute search for this place using the Google, I'd lean towards a delete since I'm not sure that a redirect that may or may not be correct would actually be a good thing. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 23:21, 16 June 2010 (EDT)

 * Could always just redirect a level higher, to Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 07:54, 1 July 2010 (EDT)
 * Is that correct though? The first suggested redirect target, The Colony, is currently listed as being in Prairies and Lakes, not Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex.  My concern is that normally we create a redirect as an aid to the traveler, but in this case I'm not sure if 1) we're redirecting to the right place and 2) this redirect would be of any value at all. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 12:14, 1 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Well, look for yourself. It is not true that Google Maps cannot find it properly, it is here with Frisco to the East and The Colony to the South. And seems to be in the Megaplex when looking there. --(WT-en) globe-trotter 09:07, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but when I search via Google maps I get a location that's midway between Houston and San Antonio: . In either case, if a redirect to Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex makes the most sense then I don't object. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:53, 2 July 2010 (EDT)

 * Redirect The Hackberry that Google Earth directed me to is adjacent to Frisco. Hackberry the ghost town is located in Lavaca County, which is between Houston & San Antonio. Since the former seems to just be a few housing developments in a suburb, I'd say the ghost town is more interesting and this should be a redirect to the sub-region Post Oak Savannah.  (WT-en) AHeneen 02:31, 20 August 2010 (EDT)

Result: Redirected to Post Oak Savannah. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:38, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

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Talk:Hackettstown

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Comments
I just want to say that I created this page today, and I added a whole lot of stuff and I just realized that I never signed my name once. So, here it is, with my apologies. (WT-en) Kire1975 01:01, 14 July 2008 (EDT)

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Talk:Hadley

Should this be called South Hadley instead? According to Wikipedia the only Hadley is a place in the UK. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:34, 17 Mar 2005 (EST)

South Hadley is a different town in Massachusetts. There is also a separate town called North Hadley. This page only refers to the town that is Hadley, neither North nor South.

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Talk:Hahn

Worth mentioning because it's used by RyanAir et al. Someone with more knowledge about the place should write up some information on connections to/from major cities. -- Nils

Hahn

 * Delete - An airfield. --(WT-en) NJR_ZA 10:29, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep, although it needs to be formatted properly. It's 100 km away from Frankfurt and features hotels etc, so it's a sleepable destination. (WT-en) Jpatokal 10:56, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep. I suppose technically it's an article for the village of Hahn, which just happens to have a commercial airport which is the main focus of the article. - (WT-en) Todd VerBeek 18:21, 27 May 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep as Hahn (the village with an airfield) (WT-en) WindHorse 09:39, 4 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Keep - for reasons above. I've added a city template and moved the airfield info into the Get In section, as a start. (WT-en) WTDuck2 10:46, 7 June 2007 (EDT)

Convert to airport article
I think that the town of Hahn itself is of little interest to the traveller, whereas the airport does matter if only for being incorrectly named after Frankfurt and thus misleading travellers. The article about the town looks a little like that article on Newton's birth town, that was written as a a biography of him because the makers of the encyclopedia it was in didn't allow articles about people per seHobbitschuster (talk) 17:07, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Difficult one to answer. I agree that there is little reason to go to Hahn except for the airport and that the airport totally dominates the village. The problem I see is that some will argue it is not a huge airport and does not fit the criteria of an airport article in that it does not have connecting flights. The airport is mainly used to get to Germany from other European countries or get to tourist destinations in Europe. I do think it nevertheless deserve to be an airport article as it is a very popular route for tourists (particularly using low-cost airlines) either going on holiday from Germany or for backpackers going from one country to another within Europe. It is a good airport for getting in and out of Germany. Facilities at the airport have increased in the last few years and it definitely needs advice in how to get to and from Hahn to major cites in Germany. --Traveler100 (talk) 18:23, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It is anything but a good airport for travelling, it's in the middle of nowhere. I would keep it all as it is and simply expand this article. PrinceGloria (talk) 19:32, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Middle of nowhere is actually very good if you are driving a car (own or hired). The road from the A61, a good autobahn for West side of Germany, is now a dual carriageway. Unlike Frankfurt there is very little risk of traffic jams, making timing to get there easier to predict. --Traveler100 (talk) 20:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I think we would have to change this article for the simple reason that (as it is now) it follows the letter but not the spirit of the law. Someone decided (from the looks of it on the other site before the great recession hit the US economy) that "Hahn" doesn't qualify as a huge airport and therefore we need no article on it. That is a policy that was thought of and based upon the model of the USA where every hamlet has an airport. However, the ROW (rest of world) has less airports and people are not that used to air travel there, therefore a higher percentage of airports should be covered by airport articles and we might reconsider the definition of "huge". Either way, as it stands now the article is clearly some sort of trick play like having 11 eligible receivers on 4th down due to a comma error in the rulebook or something. Either we make it a real city article with a normal sized get in section (and actual stuff to put in the other sections) which I doubt we can given that it is in the middle of nowhere, or we go ahead and convert it into an airport article. My justification for it would be that the German WV has one and travellers shouldn't lack information that's relevant to them just because the policies in the language they speak are different. The only other alternative I fear would be to delete this article as a violation of policy, which I would find ridiculous. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:35, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I do agree with Hobbitschuster that we should determine if the traveler can be practically helped by changing this into an Airport article. I would also agree that the WV position on airport articles should probably evolve from the 'biggest' airports to start addressing the 'significant' airports, regardless of overall passenger numbers.
 * Regarding Hahn, it is an important gateway into Germany used by LCC's and he village of Hahn is definitely not served by having so much airport detail. Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:17, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 * So should we debate the ploicy-ish issue that arose concerning which airports should get an article at another place? And regarding the article: How should we proceed? keep a "city" article on Hahn? Convert this one to an airport article? Or do something else entirely?Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:43, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 * I think policy should be discussed Wikivoyage_talk:Airport_Expedition . Andrewssi2 (talk) 23:48, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Hahnenklee

Hahnenklee

 * Delete. Too fine grained. Hahnenklee is a very small town in the Harz Mountains in Germany. It is not a major tourist destination at all. Currently the article promotes only a small family pension. It is practically spam.87.163.211.75 14:48, 11 November 2007 (EST)
 * Keep, at least for now. "Too fine grained ... not a major tourist destination at all" is not a reason to delete an article, if the place meets the you-can-sleep-there test, and it appears that this one does.  Instead, clean it up and make it useful, or redirect it to something more inclusive.  Might this place be part of an Alpine skiing complex?  If so, is there a sensible "umbrella" article to include it under? -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 18:25, 14 November 2007 (EST)
 * I looked it up again, it is not even a town. It is a small hamlet with 1200 inhabitants that is part of Goslar, a bigger town in the Harz region. The correct name is Goslar-Hahnenklee-Bockswiese. As in most of the small hamlets in the Harz mountains it is a tourist destination in the sense that it offers places to sleep for tourists visiting the Harz. If you want to keep the info it should be moved to the Goslar page. I fact, the German version of the wikivoyage Goslar page lists the church in Hahnenklee as a Goslar tourist attraction.87.163.211.150 16:01, 26 November 2007 (EST)
 * OK, then redirect to Goslar. One of the challenges in Wikivoyage is that the terms "town," "village," "hamlet," etc., vary in meaning from place to place, making a consistent treatment of very small towns difficult.  But I feel strongly that as long as someone may come here looking for info on Hahnenklee, the article name should be kept as a redirect, at the minimum.  We do the same for far smaller towns than this one. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 09:40, 3 December 2007 (EST)

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Talk:Haida Gwaii

Comment removed for clarity: port clements is not a haida community
 * fair enough... I have reworded my statement... (WT-en) bulliver 23:55, 5 May 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Haifa

what religous buildings (bahai) have been bombed in haifa
 * to my knowledge none, though bombs have landed on Baha'i owned land without exploding.

24 People died
The tourguides here a telling a romeo and juliet story that in the last bombing a couple that was killed was a Jew and Arab that were meeting. Any truth to this fable?

ask for "kartis ma'avar"
The "kartis ma'avar" (כרטיס מעבר) is now the default ticket Egged bus drivers issue on intra-city rides. (WT-en) Ronbarak 10:08, 7 October 2011 (EDT)

Alternative banner for this article?

In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 15:16, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not completely sure on this one. The two banners are so different from each other. But I think I'm going to say yes, this banner is better, because it gives more of a sense of what Haifa is like. I do like the current banner, too, however, and it's a more atypical type of image. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Hotel pictures
Right now, there are two. Per Listings, we normally do not include pictures of hotels unless the hotel buildings themselves are notable sights. In the case of the Dan Panorama hotel and shopping centre, they clearly are because, regardless of any views anyone might have on the aesthetic values of the buildings, they are skyscrapers. However, I can't figure out why Hotel Dan Gardens Haifa is architecturally notable. Is there something I'm missing, or should the thumbnail image of that hotel be removed from this article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:58, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The image was added in August 2008 by User:(WT-en) Erezico, along with two other hotel images. I doubt there's any reason to keep it. Powers (talk) 14:36, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info, Powers. I'll go ahead and delete the Hotel Dan Gardens thumbnail. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:38, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Districts
User:ויקיג'אנקי just added a set of districts for this article. I question whether Haifa is large enough to need separate district articles. If the content is divided between the districts that were just added, I think many of the articles would be nearly empty and likely to stay that way. So I oppose dividing into district articles. What do other people think? Ar2332 (talk) 08:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
 * The districts sections wasn't meant to be used for spliting the content, but rather to help the travelers reading the article get a better understanding of the city. ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 23:00, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

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Talk:Hailougou Glacier Park

I changed the title of the park from 'Hailougou Valley Glacier Park' to 'Hailougou Glacier Park' (海螺溝冰川公園). The character 溝 (gou) is generally translated as a ditch or channel, and so could conceivably be used for 'valley'. However, as 'gou' (溝) is included in the transliteration of the name 'Hailougou, I think it unnecessary to repeat the title valley in English. Alternatively, of course, we could change the title to 'Hailou Valley Glacier Park', but I think that is not a good option as it would be difficult for locals to grasp the meaning. Anyway, in the absence of an official English name for the park I propose using 'Hailougou Glacier Park.' I hope that is acceptable to the original contributor and others. Thanks. (WT-en) WindHorse 01:45, 15 July 2007 (EDT)

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Talk:Hainan

Tongzha -> Wuzhishan
The official name seems to have changed to Wuzhishan, so I will also change it here (WT-en) ClausHansen 10:45, 23 September 2009 (EDT)

Coconut question
An anon user "corrected" coconut milk to coconut juice and I reverted. At least in my Canadian English, "milk" is obviously correct. Would any speakers of other dialects care to comment? Pashley (talk) 18:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Internet
Chinese holiday island to unlock Facebook, Twitter and YouTube for foreign visitors from South China Morning Post, a major & usually reliable Hong Kong paper.

Story alsl mentions recruiting 50,000 English-speaking workers, mostly Filipino. Pashley (talk) 22:12, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Sanya
The article says Sanya Beach is "one of China's best-known beach areas". I think that may be an understatement—as far as I can tell it's China's best-known beach area, bar none. (Living in Shenzhen, it was the only Chinese beach resort outside of Guangdong that I ever heard about.)

Am I wrong, or should we edit the description to simply say "China's best-known beach area"? —Granger (talk · contribs) 17:12, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

 * I didn't grow up in China, but as far as I can tell, Sanya is the only part of China that is known for its beaches. When I visited (in the winter), you could see cars from as far away as Heilongjiang, and the hotel prices were extremely expensive to the point that I had to stay in crap place in order not to break the bank. And the locals told me that houses were extremely expensive because many rich northerners owned second homes there. So in short, I think calling it "China's best known beach area" is accurate and not an overstatement. As far as I could remember, Haikou and Wenchang did not have as many tourists, and the prices were a lot more reasonable than in Sanya, so I could actually stay in decent hotels. The dog2 (talk) 19:07, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

 * I'll go ahead and edit the article accordingly. If anyone disagrees, we can always change it back. —Granger (talk · contribs) 19:10, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Region discussion
If we wanted to divide Hainan into regions, I think the easiest way to do it would be roughly along ethnic lines, which would give us a north-south split. Northern Hainan would include Haikou, Chengmai, Lingao, Danzhou, Tunchang, Ding'an, Wenchang, Wanning, Qionghai and Bo'ao. Southern Hainan would include Sanya, Ledong, Dongfang, Baoting, Lingshui, Baisha, Qiongzhong, Changjiang and Wuzhishan.

Northern and southern Hainan are different both in terms of demographics and geology. The north is generally flatter and is overwhelmingly populated by Han Chinese. The south is much more mountainous and has a large population of indigenous people and other ethnic minorities. STW932 (talk) 12:21, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Haiti

For future reference the Project:CIA World Factbook 2002 import can be found at Talk:Haiti/CIA World Factbook 2002 import.

PLEASE sign your comments with a date by typing in --~. Otherwise people reading won't have an idea when your comment was written!

re drinks/hydration
Does any one have information on the safety of the ubiquitous "bag-o-water"? I have found the cold drink to be much more refreshing than my (nearly immediately warm) bottles. Further, any one know about the pop that is sold in smaller unlabeled bottles? How bout the freezies? Can it be assumed that those in labelled bags are safe? (A saint Marc Bakery also sells freezies to vendors, and their operation seems to be quite clean, but I don't know about in other cities).

--> my guess is that there's little difference between the contents of the bagged water and the locally produced bottles.

--> Our U.S. teams which travel to Haiti regularly drink the "bag-o-water" and our guides, which are overly cautious about the purity of food and water, consider it safe. Only rarely does someone get a case of the "Haitian Happiness" and there is no reason to suspect the water bags as the source.

Re: the safety banner.
(This part seems to be from 2007 or so. Should this be deleted? --(WT-en) Jaakkoh 14:16, 16 October 2011 (EDT))

Could we get some citations on that? It's possible that the situation has changed dramatically in just the past couple years. Traveling with people who are from here or know the lay of the land (what I'm doing) seems relatively safe.

--> The safety warning is out of date and quite inflammatory. Our many friends throughout the country say the last 12 to 18 months have seen levels of safety and security they have not seen in many, many years. Clearly, there are areas you would want to avoid, but you could say the same thing of New York City and Los Angeles. To discourage travel to the country as a whole, especially with the current improved situations, is not reasonable.

Here are a couple of citations with opinions and statements about the security situation:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070720.wxhaiti20/BNStory/National http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/Article.aspx?id=937

 * I'm sure you know better than us, so plunge forward! For starters, I've moved to warning down to Stay safe and toned it down a bit. (WT-en) Jpatokal 23:00, 19 August 2007 (EDT)

--> Most countries still advise against ALL but essential travel to Haiti, so the warning is still relevant until further notice. (WT-en) Impulsion 16:45, 18 December 2007 (EDT)

--> I agree that the banner is not only inflammatory but patently false. Although, many countries still have warnings against "unnecessary travel" to Haiti, "looting, intermittent roadblocks set by armed gangs, violent crime including kidnapping, car-jacking, and assault" are in no way commonplace like the banner says.

 * There have been new cautions or warnings from both Canada and USA, reported here http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/29/haiti-travel-warning-advisory.html - I've put the cautionbox back into "stay safe" but indicated the warnings were 2012 vintage and linked to the originals on the off chance that the situation changes in some future year. K7L (talk) 17:09, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Regions
I'm about to start researching as I create a map, but if anyone else has ideas, they would be much appreciated! --(WT-en) Peter Talk 12:28, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

 * I am sure you will have found the UN Haiti Map already Peter. Massive amount of time to be saved by using the paths from that map I think.
 * On the region split, I know next to nothing about Haiti so can't really help. Looking at the 10 departments, I can see an obvious two way region split, but have no grasp of whether that would make any sense to the traveler. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 12:51, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

 * It looks like North, Central, and South make the most sense, but the departments don't make for a very clean division between North and Central. I'll mock up a map based on the Arrondissement boundaries. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:10, 24 July 2011 (EDT)

Remove info box?
There's a box at the top of the article about an October 2016 hurricane. Should that now be updated or removed? Pashley (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Haiti blurb
Please see here for the discussion. I think this deserves more eyeballs. Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:58, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

 * Thank you Hobbitschuster (talk) for putting this over here. Yes, please more view points would be great. Specially from anyone that has been to Haiti in the past 3 years. Developing countries change quickly and it's not fair to have a label stick for life. This is not the mainstream media, we should be more in tune with what represents a travelers interest, not a political narrative. The very nature of a travel wiki is that unlike a guidebook from 2001 it can be updated ;) and updated again if the situations changes! J-wonder (talk) 00:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

 * This really should be moved to Talk:Haiti with the inbound link from Requests for comment instead of misusing one user's personal talk page for this sort of community discussion. K7L (talk) 03:06, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * certainly not Talk:Haiti as the blurb is to be found at Caribbean. I also don't understand how contacting a user who reverted a change via their talk page counts as "misusing" said talk page. Hobbitschuster (talk) 06:18, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * In that case, Talk:Caribbean is the appropriate venue and pointers to discussions go in Requests for comment. K7L (talk) 14:29, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
 * well regardless of where the discussion is had can anybody please address the issue. Not even User:Ibaman who made the initial revert has said why he thinks it justified. I don't think this is a good way to deal with a good faith newbie editing articles on an area where our coverage is lacking. And I can see the argument that Haiti's poverty might not be the most salient feature for a blurb. But apparently nobody wants to actually discuss this, instead we ate wasting time about which talk page this does or does not belong on. Hobbitschuster (talk) 23:11, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

 * For the record, when I reverted said edit, I wrote on the summary "rv per Be fair. Haiti is indeed very poor and still very much wrecked by the natural disasters. Whitewashing the situation is not fair." The usual news that come to me from Haiti are mostly about the UN peacekeeping force, that has a significant presence of Brazilian Army men. I have the opinion that, from the Wikivoyager's point of view, this is a fair viewing of the facts on the ground, and therefore justified, even if not wholly compliant to our WV:Avoid negative reviews and WV:Tone policies. And I must say I'm glad the community is concerned, and actively discussing the issue, with the sole intention of building the online travel guide of superior quality. Ibaman (talk) 13:39, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

Warnings?
I think the one about hurricanes may be outdated & the other one may need editing. As violent protests continue over gas prices, U.S. airlines cancel all flights to Haiti Saturday Pashley (talk) 18:33, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think that Haiti has recovered from the earthquake, so I doubt that normal service has been restored since the hurricane. The Canadian warning is verbatim what the Canadian government said. If there are other government warnings, please add them. Ground Zero (talk) 21:18, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Gonâve Island
This is in "Other destinations". It sounds like a place visitors, unless they are with a relief organization, should avoid, and certainly not a destination. Any objections to removing it from the list? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:15, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Not at all. Ibaman (talk) 15:49, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * OK, but you just reverted the latest edit; you didn't remove the listing. I'll do that, and then if anyone objects, just post here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Suspect typo
from Correct typos in one click peddlars->pedlars? (double) context: endure. There are some beggars and peddlars peddlars in the cities, but they

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Talk:Haitian Creole phrasebook

Could this phrasebook help aid workers in Haiti? I hope so. http://crisiscommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=Languages_%26_Translation Can we get it into better shape? --(WT-en) Evan 18:13, 16 January 2010 (EST)

J
J is described as being like the "z" in "azure", but I pronounce that "az-YOUR". I assume the sound is actually the same as French "j": Like "s" in "treasure". Would anyone complain if I edited this? Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:28, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

 * Yeah, not a good idea to use a word with more than one pronunciation in English as the example. I'll make the change you suggested. —Granger (talk · contribs) 03:12, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I forgot about this completely. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:42, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Hajj

Non-Muslim travellers

 * Is there profe that the penalty for those who travil on the hajj is death?? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 81.170.113.155 (talk • contribs)
 * No, because those who were killed never came back to tell us about it. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 20:48, 30 July 2006 (EDT)
 * haha, not funny. If it cant be found to be true, then it should not be said, do we want it to sound as though suadi arabia is some kind of barbaric country who will kill non-muslims. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Fabrib (talk • contribs)

 * Well, it's a bit hypothetical, as you'll never get even close to Mecca unless you have convincing documentation that you are a Muslim. (WT-en) Jpatokal 20:53, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

 * non-Muslims have managed it, as is stated in the article, without being killed, and its been found that some who where found where simply deported from the country(WT-en) Fabio

 * I think Fabio's right on this one, and I've edited the article accordingly. The biggest risk of discovery would be pissed-off locals, not the Saudi authorities (although they're not known for their gentle touch either...). (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:03, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

Thanks for the support Jpatokal, (WT-en) fabio
 * I support the current solution, but I'm curious to know if there is a law imposing the supposed punishment or at least one very similar to trauma. I think I'll give the Ministry of Hajj a call within the next couple of days and ask about that. -- (WT-en) Andrew Haggard (Sapphire) 21:25, 30 July 2006 (EDT)

I lived in Saudi in the 80s, and the general belief among expats at the time was that a non-Muslim visiting Mecca or Medina risked the death penalty. I do not know if this was accurate, and never heard of anyone actually being caught. Certainly the death penalty was in use, and foreigners were subject to some heavy Saudi penalties — one guy I know of got a public flogging for smuggling large amounts of booze. (WT-en) Pashley 11:26, 2 August 2006 (EDT)

 * I just shortened the warning, removing text that said the penalty was jail and deportation. That may be a correct description of the law, but the risks go far beyond the legal. Doing something sacreligious in the midst of a huge crowd of devotees at any major religious event (by no means only Muslim!) would be horribly risky. With the current climate of hostility between (parts of) the Islamic and Western worlds, it might well be suicidal.

 * It seemed better to just cut it to a simple statement that visiting the holy cities is illegal for non-muslims than either to leave it as it was or to attempt a full explanation of the risks. Pashley (talk) 20:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Suggested deletion
This trip discriminates all non-muslims and should be deleted. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 212.201.72.153 (talk • contribs)

 * Personal distaste for a destination or category of travel is not a deletion rationale. Wikivoyage aims to provide travel information for travelers, and pilgrimage is clearly a form of travel. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 16:37, 18 April 2009 (EDT)

I'm actually genuinely curious as to why a non-Muslim would want to make the Hajj. It's an Islamic pilgrimage, and whilst I find it extremely distasteful and disrespectful, if you really wanted to you could just turn up and recite the Shahada purely to get in. --194.66.219.251 21:36, 29 November 2010 (EST)

Potential epidemic?
Wired story about a SARS-like virus in the Middle East, with an accusation that the Saudis are covering it up much as the Chinese did SARS. Does this need a warning here and/or on the Saudi Arabia page? Pashley (talk) 13:08, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I would say yes to both. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

 * More recent info: Apparently the death rate for infected people is high, but it does not spread very rapidly so overall the threat is low. Pashley (talk) 01:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes not sure if it warrants a warning. Wikipedia has a decent article . Only 149 cases but of which 63 have died. Of course early in disease outbreaks one picks up those who are seriously affected as when you are real sick you get way more tests and when not really sick you get none. It is hard to say if there are 10,000s with little or no symptoms making it overall no more serious than influenza. WHO does not think it is that infectious. Travel Doc James  (talk · contribs · email) 04:41, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Corona virus
Saudi Arabia closes two holiest shrines to foreigners as coronavirus fears grow Pashley (talk) 05:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Deletion
A recent edit deleted this caution with the edit summary "obvious":

I suspect it is obvious to some readers & not to others, so I want to restore it. Other opinions? Pashley (talk) 23:57, 28 October 2023 (UTC)

 * The warning was once much stronger, mentioning the death penalty, but was (I think correctly) reduced to the above. See . Pashley (talk) 00:15, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

 * I think should be restored. Medina may be open to non-Muslims most of the time now, but it is still restricted to Muslims only during the Hajj season. The dog2 (talk) 17:25, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

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what hotel is there to stay in Mecca

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Talk:Hakodate

The infobox on the Republic of Ezo is taken directly from my own initial version of the Wikipedia article. (WT-en) Jpatokal 07:17, 27 Nov 2004 (EST)

Large vs small
Hakodate is Hokkaido's second biggest city, so yes, it is pretty big by most standards. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:29, 11 June 2007 (EDT)
 * Actually the third largest I think (Sapporo and Asahikawa are larger. Wikipedia editor Saganaki 202.213.147.38 03:36, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

I removed the part on the 二人の北東北函館フリーきっぷ, the pass for two persons, as this is not available since now 2 years (source: JR East Japan) --61.204.205.6 02:30, 29 December 2007 (EST)

Seikan tunnel: Longest undersea tunnel
That's correct, but one could thing it means that it has the longest undersea portion (which is not the case: it's the Channel tunnel). A less appealing (but also less misleading) way to say it is that the Seikan tunnel is "the longest undersea tunnel with an undersea portion". — Fabimaru (talk) 18:53, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd rather say: The longest tunnel that goes under a body of water. The only tunnel in the world that is longer is as of today the Gotthard Base Tunnel. But that tunnel does not go under any body of water... Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

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Advertisements in the sleep section? TK

 * Ack! Fix them! OP

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Talk:Half Moon Bay

montara state beach is not in half moon bay. it's in montara, two towns north of half moon bay.

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Talk:Haliburton Highlands

Haliburton is a beautiful county, with many exciting places to discover, visit, and revisit again. I'm going to treat this as a pet-project and work on it slowly over time. Of course everyone is welcome to contribute! -- Unsigned comment by User:TreePlanter, 2009

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Talk:Halifax

I've trimmed the Shambala information. The external link will lead interested parties to more information. rm3154

- Someone wanna confirm this ? 207.134.56.158 16:06, 11 September 2006 (EDT)
 * (update: I believe BMI and Zoom and potentially others do direct flights to London)

The farmers market is now (april) open till 3pm.

Comfy corner cafe is now closed and becoming some kind of Jazz place.

Thirsty duck is also closed, unsure if this is for refurb or for ever.

I have edited the 'Bus Transit' section. Acadian Lines went out of business and ceased service completely this past November. It seems that 'MaritimeBus' has taken over their service and the business resides at the same address. I have made the amendments and left the original description as they offer the same service. -CNS —The preceding comment was added by CollieNS (talk • contribs)

I've also removed 'Love Me Boutique' from the store list, as it closed last July. I have also added Bookmark Bookstore, the last independent new-bookstore on the peninsula. —The preceding comment was added by CollieNS (talk • contribs)

Connections
Does this mean that Halifax (Nova Scotia) is connected to mainland Canada by bridge/roads?

--86.52.60.151 05:04, 21 August 2010 (EDT)

Nova Scotia is no island. Some parts of Nova Scotia are islands (the largest one being Cape Breton which is linked to the mainland by a short bridge), but Halifax is on the main part of NS. No island = no bridge necessary. :-) 24.222.162.197 00:40, 13 November 2010 (EST)

Citadel
As a former employee I don't mind doing a bit of extra or additional work on the Citadel section. I did amend the 'Noon Gun' portion. The gun fires every day of the year except for Christmas day, albeit with a reduced gun-crew (2, instead of 5-man in the summer) but visitors are welcome at any point to watch it. I also hesitate to use the word ceremonial with the gun, it is very much a real gun, with real gun powder and is a real tradition that has been on going (on-record) since the 1830's, though there is reason to believe it has gone on since the city's founding in 1749, as time signalling guns were often used. —The preceding comment was added by 99.192.92.48 (talk • contribs)

Weather
Hey I'm a voyager and I've got no idea how to fix this, but the weather box is off to the far right and it's hard to read. Anyone know how to fix? LeptonMadness (talk) 04:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

 * It's supposed to be like that, because there is no prose accompanying the box on the left side. Globe-trotter (talk) 04:59, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

 * (ec) Do you mean the box with the temperature info in the Climate section? That box is controlled by Template:Climate, which automatically aligns it with the right side of the page, as far as I know. There should be text describing the climate as well and normally that text flows around the weather box so it doesn't look so odd. If you want to make changes to the box, I'd recommend raising it on the template's Talk page. Cheers -Shaundd (talk) 05:01, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?

In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 06:48, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

 * I don't know, because the current one is so funny it made me laugh. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:59, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
 * There is now a default banner different from the "tugboat", a lighthouse, used for example on the French Wikivoyage. Amqui (talk) 18:04, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 * That's a beautiful shot of Peggys Cove lighthouse. The only problem is Peggys Cove is a separate article on EN so I don't think it would be appropriate for Halifax.
 * The tugboat, BTW, is Theodore and is well known in Halifax for its tours. It's not without merit as a banner subject but I wouldn't call it iconic either. Something to do with the harbour, Citadel or clock tower would probably be better if we want to stay away from skylines (and i don't recall anything remarkable about Halifax's skyline. -Shaundd (talk) 21:38, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Primary topic?
Surely this Halifax is "so much more famous" than the others as to be the primary topic? Powers (talk) 18:57, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Honestly, I have never even heard about the existance of any other place named Halifax. Our searching engine has just told me about Halifax-England and Halifax-Massachussetts. Total news for me. Ibaman (talk) 19:21, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Same here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:29, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Suspect typo
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Talk:Halifax Regional Municipality

There's gotta be a better name for this. "Halifax (region)"? (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:24, 18 June 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Ha Long Bay

Halong Bay is NOT CATBA ISLAND
Please try to keep this article free of Catba-isms. I have begun the process of transition by adding a list of islands in the understand section. (WT-en) Pratyeka 14:23, 29 February 2012 (EST)

Junk links
I removed the two junk links - the ones that keep luring our helpless spammer friend back into his ruinous ways. Anyone who's been to Hanoi knows that there are more Ha Long Bay travel agencies than people, cats, and pho joints combined, so it's not like they're an obscure thing and those are a traveler's only two options of getting the trip done. Moreover, the person who added those links didn't provide any kind of testimony or description about them, so there's no way to know why we're recommending those two over any others. Substantively, the only real difference between them and the spammer's link was that they didn't keep overwriting him. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 10:22, 29 June 2007 (EDT)

There seems to be quite a few links to tour boats seeping into the main text and outside the listings --(WT-en) Hpka 00:00, 2 April 2009 (EDT)

Recipe
Recipes are off-topic for a travel guide, which is about going to places where they make particular dishes, not cooking them yourself wherever you are. But for people's reference, I've moved this recipe from the article here:

Recipe

 * Select tu hài of a similar size.
 * Soak in water at 80-90 degrees Celsius for about 3 minutes.
 * Remove and wash the cooked Tu hài.
 * Dice some dried onion, garlic, and fresh onion leaves in to small pieces, fry them in vegetable oil, and mix in to the tu hài.
 * Add fish sauce, soup, and MSG to taste.
 * Steam for 12 to 15 minutes.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:31, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Hamam

Standalone?
Hmmm, I'm not sure if this should be a stand-alone travel topic article or merged with another broader topic.... comments? (WT-en) Maj 19:38, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

 * Our guideline for articles states the following:

 * A good rule of thumb is that information about attractions, sites, and events should always be initially placed into the article for the place they're located in, and only when that information becomes large and complex should a new article be considered

 * It would be nice to apply the same rule to travel topics, in which case this topic should incubate in Spas, and only when it gets to the point where it's TMI for the parent should a separate article be created. -- (WT-en) Ryan 19:56, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

 * I plunged. -- (WT-en) Ryan 20:39, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

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Talk:Hamamatsu

Unagi pie
According to the official Hamamatsu tourism site, there are eel bones in unagi pie. (WT-en) Jpatokal 06:51, 27 October 2007 (EDT)

Districting
Please do not split Hamamatsu into districts — it's not big enough a city to require it. (WT-en) Jpatokal 01:07, 19 February 2009 (EST)

 * It is, however, a big enough region to require it. Please allow me to present an argument.

 * City
 * Area
 * Population
 * Currently divided into
 * Atlanta
 * 343.0 km2
 * 519,145
 * 16 districts
 * Manchester
 * 115.65 km2
 * 458,100
 * 7 districts
 * Edmonton
 * 684.37 km2
 * 752,412
 * 7 districts
 * Hamamatsu
 * 1,511.17 km2
 * 808,182
 * 1 article
 * }
 * The city part of Hamamatsu itself is not so big, but it has recently annexed many smaller communities: lake/hot springs resort towns, farming communities, mountain villages, each with their own accommodations, restaurants, etc.. (The current article does not have many Eat or Sleep listings for these areas, but there are many good options, and I will get to them soon.)
 * From one end of Hamamatsu to the other is 78 kilometers as the crow flies, and considerably more than that by car, given the winding mountain roads of the northern half of the city. The article currently has adjacent listings that are up to 4 hours' travel time distant from one another by public transit. To get to the Sakuma area from downtown without a car, for example, one has to leave Hamamatsu entirely, taking the JR train all the way to Toyohashi in Aichi-ken and then changing to the Iida line for another almost two-hour ride.
 * For these reasons, I really think Hamamatsu is a city article that should be treated like a region article. I propose the following:
 * Central - the city itself (Naka-ku, Minami-ku, Higashi-ku)
 * Hamakita - The other main "city" of Hamamatsu, along the Tenryu River and across the foothills. Lots of shopping and restaurants.
 * Nishi-ku - western administrative division which includes the lake resort/hot springs/fishing communities of Maisaka, Bentenjima, Yuto, and Kanzanji, all along the eastern shore of Lake Hamana.
 * Kita-ku - The former towns of Inasa, Hosoe, Mikkabi, etc., north of Lake Hamana and in the foothills. Farming communities with a lot of natural and historical sights.
 * Tenryu-ku - The isolated mountain villages of Futamata, Tenryu, Haruno, Sakuma, Misakubo, etc. Literally about two-thirds of the "city" in area, extending north all the way to Nagano-ken, with a very low population density.
 * So let's hash it out. I really don't think all these diverse areas belong in just one article. I'd like to hear some other opinions as well. (WT-en) Texugo 22:15, 19 February 2009 (EST)
 * Nishi-ku - western administrative division which includes the lake resort/hot springs/fishing communities of Maisaka, Bentenjima, Yuto, and Kanzanji, all along the eastern shore of Lake Hamana.
 * Kita-ku - The former towns of Inasa, Hosoe, Mikkabi, etc., north of Lake Hamana and in the foothills. Farming communities with a lot of natural and historical sights.
 * Tenryu-ku - The isolated mountain villages of Futamata, Tenryu, Haruno, Sakuma, Misakubo, etc. Literally about two-thirds of the "city" in area, extending north all the way to Nagano-ken, with a very low population density.
 * So let's hash it out. I really don't think all these diverse areas belong in just one article. I'd like to hear some other opinions as well. (WT-en) Texugo 22:15, 19 February 2009 (EST)

 * To me, this sounds like a classic case of Japanese bureaucrats coming up with an administrative division that's useless for a travel -- somebody going to (say) Yuto Onsen is going to Yuto Onsen, not "Hamamatsu/Nishi-ku". I'd suggest keeping "Central" as Hamamatsu, creating a Hamakita article if necessary, and creating other articles under the names of the "former" towns as necessary (== they're destination-worthy).  It's also possible to lump together nearby onsen towns, see eg. Oku-Hida Onsen Villages. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:50, 19 February 2009 (EST)

 * And re: the other examples, I think Atlanta, Edmonton and Manchester are all way over-districted. My rule of thumb is that cities under a million can squeeze quite nicely into one page, see eg. Helsinki. (WT-en) Jpatokal 22:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)

 * I don't know, I feel like they kind of group similar areas together pretty nicely, though they might be better named simply West, Northwest, Hamakita, and Tenryu, since that is how we usually refer to them. I don't see what it hurts to recognize their being part of Hamamatsu. And while some people may still think of some areas as being outside of Hamamatsu, people are unlikely to visit most of those places without also visiting the center. Plus, all the public city transportation for everything is centered at either Hamamatsu or Hamakita. (WT-en) Texugo 23:38, 19 February 2009 (EST)
 * Also, doing it the other way would cut Lake Hamana away from Hamamatsu, and that is one of the first things people associate with Hamamatsu. (WT-en) Texugo 23:49, 19 February 2009 (EST)

DownUnder
This one isn't open yet. (WT-en) Texugo 07:54, 19 January 2011 (EST) Now Things are starting to heat up. it’s 11pm!!!! You feel like dancing!!!!! Its time to go to the 5th floor and move that body at DownUnder’s Night Club. Live Djs playing a wide range on music mixes until 5am friday and Saturday night. Door Prize drawn at 3am. Party Time!!!! http://downunder-cafe.com
 * DownUnder Cafe is the place to be in Hamamatsu. http://downunder-cafe.com Starting at 7pm relax in the bar located on the 4th floor, watch music videos on the large screen, Chat with the friendly English/Japanese and Portuguese speaking staff.  Go to the beer garden on the roof (6th floor) and look at the night sky and the wonderful view of the Hamamatsu sky line.

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Talk:Hamburg

See and Do sections
Marcus Venzke (Marcus.Venzke@gmx.de, 3rd Oct 2004):

I've just structured the See and Do sections and named many major sights. The idea was to give the sights an order, without describing the sights in detail in the first step. I hope some of you will now pick a sight and describe it in more details (e.g. as a paragraph).

sweden
erased this:

"being part of German, Danish, Swedish and French empires."

hamburg has never been part of danish or swedish empires. parts of it were danish once. but never swedish. the city of hamburg has only been conquered by the french, no one before and after.

the vikings used to rob the town every now and then. that'S it.

World heritage
Erased "The whole historic warehouse-district is on the list of the UNESCO World Heritage Site." Hamburg is NOT on the World heritage list

Elbe
the river has many beautiful places e.g. ParkFiction near the Landungsbruecken StephWiki2012 (talk) 07:39, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Districts?
What do you all think about splitting Hamburg into districts? The German article is divided into quite many district articles and while we do not need to divide Hamburg in that many districts the division there could be used as a guideline and there is probably also stuff worth translating. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:46, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Anyone? ϒpsilon (talk) 19:21, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, ϒpsilon! Ze Zhermanz like to split their guides according to all levels of official administrative divisions, which I do not find very helpful. That said, I am starting to consider whether we should split the Altstadt+Neustadt out and, because of the common petrifying fear of "bagel districts", we may want to split the remainder into a few parts, like South, North and Altona. PrinceGloria (talk) 09:15, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Moin!
 * Well, I thought about something like this:
 * Central Hamburg: West of Hauptbahnhof, basically Altstadt und Neustadt — everything inside the inner ring. Should we include Hafencity or split it off as a separate article perhaps together with Wilhemsburg and the rest of the harbor mishmash?
 * St.Pauli, Altona and West: Everything west of the Wall park and south of the horizontal railway stretch to Altona (and south of B431).
 * Inner north: "Around Alster", ie. what's inside B5, also including St.Georg east of the railway station, perhaps down to Elbe.
 * Outer north: Everything further north as far as Hamburg stretches.
 * South: What's south of Norderelbe.
 * What do you think? ϒpsilon (talk) 14:10, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Let me begin with saying that this entire article, districtification notwithstanding, MERITS A TOTAL REWRITE. It is simply awful, not least in the way that it is still a carbon copy of WT for the most part, but also because it is a meandering, repetitive train of (un)consciousness rambling infollowably through he streets of Hamburg, and then repeating itself oftentimes for good measure. So I hope you will join me in the effort of its sanitization before / at the same time we districtify it.
 * Now regarding your proposal: I generally agree:
 * # I would call it Alstand & Neustadt, no need to create a separate name for it. FWIW, I would include main attractions (M4 K&G, Hamburg Museum) right behind the border in this article as well. I would include the Hafencity, at least some of the attractions within walking distance by the same token.
 * # I would go by simply Altona & St. Pauli - everything that is west of St. Pauli and north of the Elbe is either Altona or Schleswig-Holstein, which we don't cover here
 * # North of Hamburg - we seem to have a dearth of attractions to form two districts. I'd keep it all together until it proves unwieldy once POIs start pouring in
 * # South of Hamburg - agreed I guess
 * I wish we could finish that before I head to HH on Mar 12, when I could stretch my busy schedule to help fill in some remaining gaps in local knowledge. My photoshooting skills are nonexistent, but fortunately there are many GREAT CC-BY-SA-licensed photos on Flickr, so we may look into porting some of those as the image that emerges from the ones we currently have is rather dark and dour. Finally, perhaps we may be lucky to recruit a, pardon the pun, Hamburger to help? Do we know if any of our German friends is from HH? PrinceGloria (talk) 15:21, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Dana and Joachim probably are the ones to contact. We can give them a day or two to lodge complaints otherwise we'll move forward with the above four districts. Meanwhile everything has to be listingfied and coordinates added, so as to know in which district to put them.
 * The article is really not our golden standard for articles. But turning a messy article into something much better (DotM worthy, even?) is what we're here for! When we start moving things to districts (POIs and district-specific information) they can be cleaned up part by part as they're moved over and then finally the rest of the article that stays. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

 * The splitting into four districts (PrinceGloria's proposal) is right, I think. But please do not use "&" in page names. This leads to problems with the dynamic maps. - In Hamburg I was not often, so I can not really help. Maybe I'll be able to add some coordinates. -- Joachim Mey2008 (talk) 18:22, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Trotzdem Vielen Dank! Does Hobbitschuster maybe have any opinion despite not living in that part of Germany? ϒpsilon (talk) 18:30, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Sorry, like Joachim, I visited Hamburg only couple of times briefly, so I can't help with my advice on districts. Danapit (talk) 10:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Well, I guess neither of us is a local or an expert, but I guess we can use our experiences, however brief, and common sense to agree on a split, and work together to salvage this guide. What do you say, Joachim and Danapit? PrinceGloria (talk) 10:34, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

(start at the left again) Sorry, but the total times I have visited Hamburg amount to maybe 30 hours in total. I am thus not an expert, but I think that districts can be changed later on and a city of the size and (touristic) importance of Hamburg needs to districtified somehow. I think we should proceed analogous to the way Berlin or other German/European cities were districtified. I don't know what good the official administrative subdivisions, that the German WV seems to be so enamored with do, but I doubt any beyond a first ballpark estimate. Best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:42, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I guess Ypsilon's suggestion with PriceGloria's changes (making it 4 districts) makes sense to me. Danapit (talk) 14:52, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Concerning the districts we have the main direction hammered out, I think. There are still some details left (and POIs which I expect to have done within a few hours).
 * The extent of South and Altona-St.Pauli are pretty clear. Alt- und Neustadt will include Hafencity but how much to the east and north should it include? St. Georg? How far along the Aussenalster?
 * To return to the German WV's district division, we should strive to make our districtification compatible in the sense that each of the German districts are entirely located in one of our districts rather than split between several. In this way it is easier and more "comfortable" to translate stuff.
 * When zooming out to level 11 you notice that the North article will cover the area from 10 o'clock to 4 o'clock, so perhaps its name should be North and East? ϒpsilon (talk) 17:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I would include the HafenCity but nothing beside it. There is precious nothing for the tourist in the east of the HafenCity, so we're pretty much within the big circle of old fortifications if we include it. I was actually wondering if we shouldn't split North from East, as there is quite a bit happening around the Aussenalster, and then further north are the parks, including Stadtpark. Then the districts of Mitte east of the tracks (incl. St. Georg and Hammerbrook) and Wandsbek (as if anything happens there) would be our "East". We could center POIMaps on the parts of those close to the centre - for the few outlying attractions, the users could zoom out. PrinceGloria (talk) 18:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Very good. That was also my reasoning when proposing a separate article for "Inner North" in my first comment above — to avoid stuffing the Altstadt-Neustadt article with too much. So, let's go on with those five, then: 1. Altstadt-Neustadt, 2. St.Pauli-Altona, 3. North (Aussenalster to Hagenbeck to Airport), 4. St.Georg and East, 5. South. ϒpsilon (talk) 21:47, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
 * District map is up! :) ϒpsilon (talk) 20:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

 * That's quite a brilliant map, thank you! I wouldn't be me if I didn't have my comments though:
 * Do we really want to single out St. Georg among the east? All of the other near-centre districts could be mentioned just as well, e.g. Hammerbrook. Can't be just call it "East"?
 * I am quite afraid the names and icons of the railway stations need to be larger to be discernible.
 * I would also consider adding Hamburg-Altona (railway station), the Cruise Harbours and marking the Messegelaende.
 * You may want to try to place the names on the spaces where there are no roads etc. so that they don't overlap.
 * Mit freundlichsten Gruessen, PrinceGloria (talk) 22:07, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

 * We can have St. Georg as part Alt & Neu, perhaps other districts too. Though care must be taken so that Alt & Neustadt doesn't become several times larger than the rest of the districts combined.
 * Altona railway station might be added, other railway stations I'm not so sure we need. Cruise harbours? Yes! The fair? Maybe.
 * Will look into the map in the evening. --ϒpsilon (talk) 06:02, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

 * St. Georg should stay in the East. Just don't mention it in the district name. PrinceGloria (talk) 09:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

 * The map is fixed as far as it's possible, and I'll now plunge forward with creating district articles to where we can eventually start moving listings and probably also the long text passages from the See section. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

OH THIS PESKY ST. GEORG!!!
Well, I started moving listings and it occurred to me, that one small portion of Aussenalster's lakeshore lands in a different district than the others, namely the one belonging to St. Georg. I am not sure if it's a legitimate problem or whether I am having typically German issues with perceived Oerdentlichkeit. What do you think? PrinceGloria (talk) 11:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Being German I just can't resist telling you it is Ordentlichkeit. Ordnung muss sein! best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:33, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Genau! The southeastern bank of Außenalster (north of the railway, of course!) from the unnamed canal between the Alsters up to Mundsburger Kanal should belong to the east (ie. St Georg). From there northward, as hopefully my map reveals, Hamburger Straße/Bramfelder Straße is the border. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:03, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Hello everyone: I find it quite helpful to consider that Altstadt, Neustadt plus HafenCity comprise the Innenstadt (=Inner City). That's not necessarily an official subdivision, but nevertheless those three Stadtteile are often times put together for planning and zoning purposes - hence have visibly a lot in common in terms of density of built environment, usage, etc.. Innenstadt (Inner City) is basically the same as Central Hamburg (or as called "Altstadt-Neustadt"). --109.43.1.2 19:43, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Well as one German put it "Namen sind Schall und Rauch". I don't mind changing the name of the district to "Innenstadt" or inner citiy, but I don't think we would gain all that much by it. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:56, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

 * (edit conflict) Thanks for the information, will make a redirect for Innenstadt ASAP. Perhaps we might consider renaming the district (although then lazy me would have to "rip open" the static map again...) ϒpsilon (talk) 19:59, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I did not see any reference to Innenstadt in Hamburg - but it might have slipped my attention. If we believe it will not be confusing for the tourists (i.e. they will find references to "Innenstadt" and the locals bzw. tourist information will be able to respond appropriately when asked questions e.g. about POIs within Innenstadt), then I think we should go for it. Otherwise, "Hamburg City Centre" is just as good for me. PrinceGloria (talk) 20:39, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

Learn
Do we need this section? It contains pretty much nothing of use for the casual tourist, rather than somebody moving to Hamburg for a longer period. PrinceGloria (talk) 06:50, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't know that it's essential, but it's a very brief overview, so I think it's fine. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:58, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Well, if we open the floodgates (and that's especially important in case of a port like Hamburg!), how do we determine when to close them? As experience from other articles show, people will pour in with details, start making POIs etc, and it will be very hard to tell them which content does not belong. I believe we should only reinstate this section if some opportunities truly useful for travellers arise. And even those are quite on the verge of usefulness, as most short-term learning opportunities belong in "Do" just as well. We do not provide a host of other practical or general information about Hamburg, even in an overview form.PrinceGloria (talk) 19:34, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Learn (and Work) indeed include information useful only for those staying longer (while they are supposed to be only for short courses and works). I think they could be deleted. Overall, I think those two sections could be optional in all articles below country level. ϒpsilon (talk) 19:59, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Yup, those, especially work, should stay on the country level at most. Could we agree to delete the one at hand at this time? PrinceGloria (talk) 20:44, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

"Ich bin ein Hamburger"
How about making this section a textbox? It's the kind of amusing thing people enjoy reading, and if it's a textbox, there will be less temptation to enlarge it. What do you all think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:08, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I hate textboxes, they totally ruin the layout of the guide on most displays I use. More importantly, it is about us implementing some form of editorial self-control when our literary ambitions are about to take over. More importantly - which sections can we still further improve. Which ones are still CCs from WT? PrinceGloria (talk) 06:25, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

 * I won't try to insist. I've never been to Hamburg so far, so unfortunately, I'm not likely to be able to help that much. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:21, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Well I think it is worth a mention somewhere as the term for someone from Hamburg (other than the inexterminable "Hanseat", which used to have a very specific meaning) is indeed Hamburger, but the vast majority of Germans pronounces it vastly different from "Hamburger", the Burger. It's similar to the fact that a "Berliner" is called a "Pfannkuchen" in Berlin, whereas a "Pfannkuchen" is a "Palatschinken". The only stupid joke you can make is that "Frankfurter" and "Wiener" are sausages. Anyway I don't know how that other site handles it, but if "Ich bin ein Hamburger" is their headline, we might consider changing it? And for the record I wouldn't object to a textbox, they are usually easy to spot and therefore either the first thing somebody reads or the last thing (depending among other things on the headline). Best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

 * Nope, this one is entirely my creation, I was suggesting if it is contentious we remove it rather than discuss it at length, but rather check if OTHER more serious and important sections have improvement potential, ALSO checking if they don't still have too much WT content (which can be both outdated and not aid our search results). PrinceGloria (talk) 16:19, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Guide?
What is missing for Hamburg to become a guide? If I am not mistaken all of her districts are "usable" at least and this article appears to need little to no polishing up... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:40, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and upgrade it. ϒpsilon (talk) 04:55, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Okay. If somebody disagrees, please say so here. Hobbitschuster (talk) 10:07, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Speicherstadt UNESCO world heritage site
Just an fyi, the Speicherstadt has been declared a UNESCO world heritage site. I don't know what the established protocol is, whether we should mention it here and in the corresponding district or only in one of the two... Best wishes Hobbitschuster (talk) 10:04, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice! I'm following the world heritage conference too.
 * Speicherstadt's UNESCO status can be mentioned in the Hamburg article. Though in the "closest" article, ie. the Hamburg/Neustadt-Altstadt the status should be mentioned, preferably in Speicherstadt's listing, the site should have a photo and the UNESCO icon parameter should be added to the banner. Also, the site should be added to our UNESCO World Heritage List using its official name. ϒpsilon (talk) 10:39, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I made two small changes to the district article to that effect. Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:13, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Routebox
See here for which ICE lines pass through Hamburg. We should make some effort to get at least the most important HSR lines in Germany into routeboxes on the corresponding articles... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:59, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Cuisine
Paragraphs 1 and 4 in section "Cuisine" describe a traditional cuisine that a visitor will usually not come across. While this traditional cuisine has its place in the Wikipdia article about the Hamburg cuisine, my impression is that the Wikivoyage article rather needs a description of the current culinary situation. I will rewrite the section in small steps; feel free to stop me if I'm going in a wrong direction. Kind regards, Grueslayer (talk) 13:21, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

 * If visitors in practice are unable to find them, then I agree they can be removed. However, many travelers do want to try local dishes, and if you only need to go a little out of your way to find them, they should definitely be kept. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:00, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

 * How is the situation with traditional Hamburg cuisine? I've heard that in Frankfurt "traditional cuisine" only originated after countless visitors to the trade fairs and emperor crownings and whatnot wanted to experience "real traditional Frankfurt cuisine" and ultimately local restaurants went to neighboring villages and copied what was done there. Has Hamburg had a similar dynamic with its "local cuisine"? Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:08, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * As a large city Hamburg has a high share of ethnic restaurants, as a large port city even more so. In the low budget segment, fast food stalls with classic German fast food (Currywurst etc.) are still easy to find, but way more scarce than e.g. kebap shops. In terms of restaurants, venues that sell traditional German cuisine are hard to find, let alone traditional Hamburg cuisine. An exception is the harbour area (Landungsbrücken, fish market) where touristic demand for traditional Hamburg specialties meets a matching offer.
 * Hamburg.de/Hamburg.com, a comprehensive website supported by the city administration, lists five traditional restaurants on its English site; the German site lists ten. There's more of course, mainly in the outskirts. A good statistical overview is provided by Gelbe-Seiten.de, the German yellow pages. This site lists 344 restaurants in the section "Italian restaurants", compared to 192 for German cuisine. For Hanseatic cuisine it lists 20.
 * Kind regards, Grueslayer (talk) 18:40, 19 November 2017 (UTC)

Black metro lines
While are all the metro lines black? Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:05, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Wikidata items for dynamic map
Below is the map with all Wikidata items for the districts of Hamburg. This should simplify the work in case we want to change the district set-up in the future. The tool Wikidata Extractor has been used to create the mapshapes. --Renek78 (talk) 09:00, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Franzbrötchen
"Being a Hamburg regional food, the Franzbrötchen becomes quite scarce outside the borders of the city; as near as Lüneburg it can only be found as a Hamburger and is not available in Bremen at all."

I don't believe this is true - I live in Oldenburg (a town outside of Bremen) and nearly all of the bakeries here sell Franzbrötchen

U-Bahn totally missing from map
For some reason the U-Bahn now doesn't show up on the dynamic map at all. Is this on purpose? Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:56, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Which tourism site?
In this edit the external tourism link was changed from marketing.hamburg.de (signed Hamburg Marketing GmbH to hamburg-travel.com (signed Hamburg Tourismus GmbH). The two seem to have a cooperation, the former states:
 * "The Hamburg Marketing GmbH, the Hamburg Tourismus GmbH, the Hamburg Convention Bureau and the HWF Hamburg Business Development Corporation operate as a single entity under the umbrella of the Hamburg Marketing holding."

The same IP user added or changed tourism websites for many places of a few different countries. I don't know by what logic they choose the sites. They didn't respond to another request on their talk page and are blocked now.

Which one should be used?

–LPfi (talk) 08:28, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Hamilton (New Zealand)

- Other guide to mine

Image
If anyone has any images of the mighty Tron, please upload. Probably doesn't really need saying, but I'll try anyway.... I just don't have one. (WT-en) BadJelly123

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Talk:Hamilton (Ontario)

HSR fare pages
Whenever the inevitable HSR transit fare increases occur, here are the relevent pages: TheTrolleyPole (talk) 19:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Regular fares
 * GO co-fare

Skyline picture
I think a header would make it even look better. Just my two cents worth thanks. --(WT-en) Norvak 20:01, 20 December 2008 (EST)
 * Done. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 20:19, 20 December 2008 (EST)

Waterdown
Before reading further open the maps for Hamilton and Burlington. Some See listings in the Hamilton article are in the community of Waterdown which is officially part of Hamilton. But to get there from downtown Hamilton (without making a long detour via Dundas) you will pass through Burlington, or at least next to some listings listed in the Burlington article (according to its map).

I think it would be more logical from a voyager's point of view to have travel guides covering continuous areas. So we should either move the Waterdown listings to the Burlington article or the listings in the southwestern extreme of Burlington to Hamilton. Thoughts? --Ypsilon (talk) 15:33, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

 * Any comments? --Ypsilon (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

 * I think the listings in Waterdown should either be in their own article or in Burlington, but not in the Hamilton article. --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 18:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

 * There are just two listings, so probably best to move them to Burlington. --Ypsilon (talk) 13:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

 * OK, then I agree that they should be moved to Burlington (Ontario). --Comment by Selfie City  ( talk  |  contributions ) 14:59, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

 * ✅ --Ypsilon (talk) 15:19, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

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Can anyone tell me about the beer festival?

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Hammonton is a city in New Jersey but where in New Jersey? details on what part of the city should go in --(WT-en) Hayfield 23:59, 8 November 2008 (EST)

 * I'd say Jersey Shore but please correct my edits to Delaware River, if that's more appropriate, there's a map on the New Jersey page. (WT-en) Sertmann 00:03, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * p.s. thank you and this is really confusing sorry. --(WT-en) Hayfield 00:05, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * I changed it to Atlantic County. (WT-en) Texugo 00:08, 9 November 2008 (EST)
 * You're doing great, seriously - remembering the summaries and using correct abbreviations, is not standard for new users here. if you need any help with anything just shout on a talk page (or mine for that matter, though I'm of for bed soon) - and it's not to hard really once you get your head around the standards here. (WT-en) Sertmann 00:12, 9 November 2008 (EST)

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Talk:Hampi

A Forgotten Empire, The Book
I have added name of a book in the understand section of Hampi. I am not sure if its ok do that. This book is conidered at most authentic account of the history of Vijayanar and Hampi. Please let me know if i need to remove it.-(WT-en) anurag 07:36, 21 Jan 2006 (EST)
 * Perfectly okay! --(WT-en) Ravikiran 12:04, 21 Jan 2006 (EST)

Shanthi guest house blogspot link
An anon user added a blogspot link about Shanthi guest house. It seems well-meaning, but it contravenes our Extlinks policy. But here is the link anyway:. (Note to anon user: If you are in fact the owner then your page can be added here.) — (WT-en) Ravikiran 02:08, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

Hi Ravikiran, thanks for the note. I am not the owner of the Shanthi guest house at Hampi, but I own the blog, which I made for the benefit of the Shanthi guest house owners, taking inputs from them. If you think this is against wiki's policy, please go ahead... - Suresh

Tour map
Added walking and bicycle tour map in the DO section for the benefits of the tourists.. Let me know if its ok.

Regards Ashutosh —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 122.172.59.22 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 30 October 2010

 * That constitutes an external links policy violation (as has been told at the edits you undid, ). Please see Project:External links for more about that policy. – (WT-en) Vidimian 06:48, 31 October 2010 (EDT)

Article status upgrade
So interestingly, if we ignore the formatting/spelling errors, this article actually meets all the requirements for guide status.

I'll try to put in some time later to correct all the spelling and grammatical errors. As of now, though, I'm upgrading Hampi to usable status. GeneralPericles (talk) 11:23, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

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Regions
I divided Hampshire up into 3 regions, North, Mid and South Hampshire. Somebody might even want to suggest East and West Hampshire! However my breakdown is TOTALLY artificial and based on ONE reference to Baughurst being in North Hampshire. There should be much better names that people who know the region can add. Be merciless and change it because I am guessing and probably wrong. -- (WT-en) Huttite 16:03, 1 Jan 2006 (EST)
 * I live in Hampshire, and you can divide it into North and South Hampshire, but we mainly just call it Hampshire and rarely split it. 82.3.185.12 20:26, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

Potential banner
Since I am totally ill-equipped to create banners, I just thought I'd leave this idea here should anyone wish to make a banner for this article in the future:

 * I wrote this about a month ago, but didn't sign --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 02:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

 * Done! --Nick talk 10:22, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

 * Great! --Andrewssi2 (talk) 00:35, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Whoa! What's a terrific banner! I feel like I'm in the cathedral. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Mapshape
The mapshape is wrong, leaving Portsmouth in the dark. The ceremonial county borders should the correct source to use. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:51, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

Problems with the map
I have added latitudes and longitudes for the see and do sections of the article, however they have not appeared on the map 82.3.185.12 15:00, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Never mind, it fixed itself 82.3.185.12 15:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * They're showing for me just fine; thanks for adding them :-) Maps don't always update immediately, depending on caches and various other computery stuff I don't understand.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 15:09, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh ok, thanks 82.3.185.12 15:23, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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Talk:Hanau

Finally, an interesting challenge for me. Let's see how much I can cover in two - three days' time. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 19:45, 7 January 2008 (EST)

title: Talk:Hanau