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Hi. You're writing a bunch of stuff without listing any of your sources, without required structural elements, without using the structure required of a news article, and with a headline that does not follow news style (the headline is encyclopedic). Your article needs these things in order to have a chance of being published. Please read WN:PILLARS and WN:WRITE now, rather than later. There are also simple step-by-step instructions on how to write an article on the template we placed at the top of this page (see above). --Pi zero (talk) 02:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

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Edittools not properly working?
Sometimes the scroll menu below the big buttons appears; other times it doesn't. It has been happening to all WikiEditor versions, including the 2003 and 2010 WikiEditor, which has the newer Toolbar. I wonder what can be done about either MediaWiki:Edittools and/or MediaWiki:Edittools.js. --George Ho (talk) 18:18, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Further details: I went to the latest version of Firefox on Windows 7 and found the menu working there. Not so for Google Chrome or IE11. --George Ho (talk) 20:22, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

On the other hand, I went to Windows 8 and 10, and the menu works on various browsers. Then I went to macOS High Sierra (10.13.3). The menu works on Safari and Firefox; sometimes, it doesn't work on Chrome v65. --George Ho (talk) 20:50, 4 April 2018 (UTC); edited, 04:43, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh I remember using it when I was a noob. One day it stopped working and I’m an off-wiki discussion, if I recall correctly, I was told most of the JS was “broken”. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 21:00, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think I know how to reproduce the problems (if not a bug): --George Ho (talk) 00:13, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Go to the (wiki)editor.
 * 2) The menu does not appear until you click either "Show preview", "Show changes", or reload button five, six, or ten times.
 * 3) If the menu appears, and you click one of the buttons from the lower editing tool, the script does not load the insertion of any option that you choose, like source.
 * 4) Rather the page scrolls up either one part or to the top of the page.
 * 5) When the menu does not appear, and you click one of the buttons from the lower editing tool, the script loads the insertion of any option that you choose.

Block messages
We're placing block on user's talk pages by hand to ensure they know how to request an unblock. Perhaps this goal could be achieved by editing the block messages and adding the unblock instructions to these? I think they support wiki markup. This could make it easier to block spam bots as we would not have to spend time clicking the link to their user pages and then edit and then add the block notice and click save. (I understand we have a tracking category for users who are blocked with various settings, but I think Special:Log/block already allows to search blocks.) Gryllida (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I suppose it would be easier, but would the user see the message unless they look at their Special:Contributions page? I don't actually know what a user sees when they are blocked and attempt to edit, but that's the only place I see them. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:46, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * They see "This user is currently blocked. The latest block log entry is provided below for reference: " when viewing their talk page or contributions, but not when viewing their user page. When trying to edit any page they see "You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:" with more details below it in several paragraphs. I am not sure how often they visit their user page to check this information. I thought they would also receive an echo notification but I tested it on another wiki and I do not see it. Gryllida (talk) 23:07, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * In that case I am all for it. Adding a block notification is always the most time-consuming part. Blocking and deleting/rolling-back their edits is always much quicker. I had no idea that we could customize them; always assumed it was a global message. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:23, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I have some doubts. Seems to me the instructions for unblocking don't even apply to everyone.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:31, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

HotCat
Why does HotCat show categories that Wikinews doesn't actually have? Today, it was Category:Censorship. I typed in the first few letters and Hotcat auto-completed with "Censorship" and added a red-linked category. See diff. Why? Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:36, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I've noticed this behavior (possibly for years?). I've a theory it's basing its "guesses" on some internal permanent record of every category page that ever has existed, regardless of whether it has been deleted (unless it's just using Wikipedia, but I'm inclined to the permanent-record theory).  To avoid accidentally adding redlinked categories, what I do is tell HotCat to add a second category as well (using "+", but don't actually enter a second category name), then click "okay" for the one I'm actually adding.  HocCat then shows an actual link to the category I've requested, so if it doesn't exist I'll see the redlink without having committed to it yet. I'm testing ping-via-edit-summary, on this.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:16, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
 * At the bottom of suggestions list change 'Combined search' to 'Page list', does that work better?
 * [[File:HotCat suggestions 2.png]]
 * --Gryllida (talk) 23:23, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, that does work. Sadly, it doesn't remember the setting for next time one uses HotCat, it just goes right back to the combined list. Thanks for the tip. Cheers, --SVTCobra 00:06, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Could be solved by copying c:MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js to MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js and editing the line, instead, put.
 * Or if we don't want to keep a local copy of the entire script then add  to our existing local page for the gadget and see if it takes effect in time. --Gryllida (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * OK ... but I am probably the wrong person to play around with javascripts I don't know which solution is better, but I do know a lot of people add categories which don't exist and I think it is because of the default list is the "combined" list. --SVTCobra 01:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * This diff works for me, but I reverted it, I would like someone else to decide on making the switch. I rarely use HotCat and would be unable to easily notice if it breaks. Gryllida (talk) 01:14, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess we can wait and let a few other people look at this discussion before implementing. As long as a few of us know what and where the change is, it should be as simple as undoing the edit to fix it in case it breaks. Cheers, --SVTCobra 01:25, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

afaict,, it lists all the redirects to CAT page. •–• 20:56, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


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Indian Supreme Court orders transfer of Asifa Bano gang rape and murder case to Pathankot

May 10, 2018 On Monday, the Indian Supreme Court transferred the trial of the gang rape and murder of Kashmiri girl to Punjab's  district. The Supreme Court asserted it was to ensure a fair and just result for the victim and the accused. "We are here for the fundamental concept of fair trial for both victims and the accused", the court said.

Asifa Bano was an eight-year-old Muslim nomadic girl of the tribe who was reported missing on January 10. According to the police investigation, she was kidnapped, sedated, held captive, and gang raped before she was strangled and killed. Her corpse was found in a week after her disappearance. All eight accused for Bano's rape and death are Hindus, of which two are police officials.

Bano's father approached the Supreme Court requesting the case be shifted to a different court, suggesting. Some of the accused asked the case be heard in Jammu and Kashmir. Bano's family and their lawyer, Deepika Singh Rajawat, had received death threats and personal threats. The Supreme Court, headed by, , ordered continuing security for the victim's family as well as the lawyer. They also ordered continuing security for the juvenile accused for Bano's rape and death.

Stating fair trial is a " principle under Article 21" of the Indian constitution, which corresponds to the fundamental right to life, the Supreme Court said, "We are transferring the case to Pathankot from Kathua for trial [...] the case will be heard daily so that the verdict can be reached in a country where such cases can run for years or decades". Pathankot is a district in Punjab, and it is about 30 (about 20 ) from Kathua. The Supreme Court also ordered the hearing sessions cannot be adjourned and in-camera to ensure the safety of witnesses. There are about 221 witnesses for this case. Statements in are to be translated in English. The Supreme Court instructed Pathankot's district judge not to transfer the case to any other court.

Three of the accused, Sanjhi Ram, Vishal Jangotra, and Parvesh Kumar asked for a probe by the. Dismissing the plea, the Supreme Court said, "When charge sheet is filed, why should we want another agency?"

Per the charge sheet filed by Jammu and Kashmir police on April 9, Asifa Bano was raped at a place of worship.

Last month, after protests against the rape and murder of Asifa Bano in various cities across the nation, Indian ministers passed an ordinance allowing the death sentence for those convicted of raping a girl under the age of twelve. However, per Article 20 (1) of the Indian Constitution, the ordinance is not applicable in this case. Article 20 (1) states, "No person shall be convicted of any offence except for violation of a law in force at the time of the commission of the act charged as an offence, nor be subjected to a penalty greater than that which might have been inflicted under the law in force at the time of the commission of the offence."

The trial is to be conducted in accordance with the (RPC). Due to special provisions for Jammu and Kashmir mentioned in Article 370 of the constitution, the Ranbir Penal Code is applicable for Jammu and Kashmir; since the case falls in the of that state. The RPC, which is different from the (IPC), has been in effect since before Indian independence from Great Britain}, when  of the  was the king of the then-independent state. Deepika Singh Rajawat, the lawyer who took Asifa Bano's case said, "There is not much difference between IPC and RPC, especially for rape and murder. Even though the order of sections are different, that would not affect the hearing of the Kathua case."

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Translation of the Hindi source. Link •–• 21:59, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Grammar question
I noticed Pi zero twice changed "accused of rape and murder" to "accused for rape and murder". I believe this to be incorrect. A suspect can be "wanted for rape and murder" but once they are caught they are either "charged with rape and murder" or "accused of rape and murder". Please see the usage note at Merriam-Webster. Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree, using "for" or "over" is not correct in this instance. Green Giant (talk) 15:43, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Taking this carefully,
 * I did not change "of" to "for", rather I declined a proposed change from "for" to "of".
 * The proposed "of" would be wrong in this case, because the eight are not all accused of rape and murder; only some of them are accused of actually participating in it.
 * Prepositions are extraordinarily slippery words. They effectively defy the basic assumption of a dictionary, which is that each word has its own meaning; in effect, all use of a preposition is somewhat idiomatic (that is, the meaning is in the phrase rather than the individual words).  I believe use of prepositions simply varies between regional varieties of English, and it's really hard to make a call between "incorrect" and "regional variation".
 * I did make suggestions of possible alternatives in my edit summaries. However, I didn't feel they were urgent, and I was, again, primarily declining the proposed change.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 16:58, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it is unsound to assume it is a regional variation. As a test, however, I did a verbatim search for "accused for". If it were a regional usage, one would expect a lot of hits from that region. I found no such results. In fact, "accused of" seems to be standard usage in India. See: "Two accused of waging war against India move Delhi High Court against the charge". --SVTCobra 18:50, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (I didn't assume it was regional variation; I'm just uncertain it isn't.) --Pi zero (talk) 19:19, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It is not true that all eight are accused of actually carrying out the acts of rape and murder. The police do not claim that they all participated in those physical acts (although they may be legally guilty of the acts; that's a legal point that should not obscure the claimed events).  They are not all accused of actually doing that.  They are all accused in relation thereto.  The preposition "for" in this case is awkward, imho; the preposition "of" is incorrect, and so I declined to change "for" to "of".  --Pi zero (talk) 19:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

NPOV concern
This sentence in the second paragraph: "Two former members of the pro-Hindutva Bharatiya Janata Party participated in a rally showing support for the eight accused." My concern is that it is totally out of place. The paragraph describes the crime and the accused and jumps to point out two people in a rally? The rally is not otherwise mentioned. Were they two out of ten people? Or two out of a thousand? What does the fact they are former BJP members have to do with anything? If this is somehow important and relevant to the article, it ought to be better explained. Right now, it just looks like ugly mudslinging. It is no secret the author has no lost love for the BJP. Cheers, --SVTCobra 11:34, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Focus on the last line of this article: "We are here for the fundamental concept of fair trial for both victims and the accused". If you have paid attention, the victim was from a Muslim minority, who was held captive in a Hindu majority area, raped in a Hindu temple, and all the eight accused are Hindus. If you have read the previous article, the protests took place for this case as well as another rape case in Unnao, and the accused is a BJP MLA. Supreme Court had said about transferring the case at slightest doubt of unfairness. When BJP politicians are participating in rally supporting the accused, and even getting promoted as a minister, while the convicts had requested CBI probe despite the police investigating and filing a charge sheet, there are possibilities of influencing the case -- and as mentioned, the family and lawyer also received death threats. Now, I can't opinionate my article saying "there is a possibility of political bias" -- the political alignment of those supporters had to be mentioned, as not doing it will be hiding known, and related fact. The rally is not mentioned anywhere is because: the only thing to tell about it is that there was a rally supporting the accused, in which BJP MLAs participated, and one of them was promoted as a minister. I do not know how many participated in that rally, and woah woah, it was organised by "Hindu Ekta Manch". Well, when I was following the entire story, I remember there were some who resigned, so they become "former ministers". 2/10 or 2/10k; why does that matter; I am not writing about the rally, I am writing about the potential influence when one involved is ex-minister.

As far as my "lost love" is concerned, I am not pro-anyGovernmentInIndia; I have mentioned this to Wikinewsies time and time again. I never went to get a voter's card, or even know how to get one, to begin with. I am writing on Wikinews because I am politically neutral, and I was fed up with the political bias in every news channel, dailies and social science textbooks.

(This isn't the first time BJP members have supported a rape accused/convict, btw) •–• 12:35, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

 * Some thoughts.
 * In general, if you see a concern like this on an article that's in its 24 hour window after publication, try to devise a way of mitigating the problem that will be extremely uncontroversial (that is, uncontroversial re Wikinews policy) and act on it immediately; perhaps, use an edit summary that says it'll be explained on talk, and leave a note on the article talk page explaining why the submitted edit eliminates the problem. Sometimes one just can't think of a way, but it's worth exerting oneself to try to think of something that no Wikinewsie will strongly object to; I'm just saying, give some pushback against the impulse to start discussions.  You don't, of course, want to submit a "fix" that will be itself controversial.
 * As usual, better to focus on the technical characteristics of the article and leave out personalities.
 * Some article history, that explains how that awkward lack-of-flow that you (SVTCobra) observe happened. There was a misapprehension during the writing of the article, that a source had said the accused former government official was a member of BJP.  If that were true, one would naturally say that in the sentence that says one of the accused was a former government official and two were police, and then it would be entirely natural to mention in the next sentence the thing about the rally.  Review uncovered that it was a misreading of the sources; there is nothing in the sources to indicate the accused is BJP; but when I removed that incorrect claim, I failed to notice that it was creating a problem with the last sentence of the paragraph.
 * I think the simplest solution is to remove the sentence about the rally, as, without the thing that used to come before it, it lacks context. I'm submitting such a change now.  Related articles are possible, of course, depending on availability of fresh developments.
 * --Pi zero (talk) 12:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

 * -edit conflict- The problem is, none of this is explained in the article. We can't assume the reader to know all this background information. Also, since they are former BJP members it holds even less validity to include. It would have been better to have a sentence that "Hindu Ekta Manch" held a rally, rather than cast aspersions on the entire BJP which is by far the largest party in the country. Individual BJP MLAs can believe strange things such as this guy who believes PM Modi is the reincarnation of . Does that mean all of BJP believes that? I doubt it. --SVTCobra 13:02, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My apprehension about unilateral action without discussion was based on the history between the author and myself. The perceived adversarial nature of this relationship has led to rather aggressive reverts in the past. The author is usually more amenable to a decision coming from you. --SVTCobra 13:09, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The technique I'm recommending does ultimately allow for discussion on the talk page, but with a gentle solution already in place. It does help if one has some accumulated confidence in successfully steering such discussions away from acrimony.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Since protests for Kathua and Unnao's incident happened at the same time, there was certain influence and I mistook Sengar's position for the ex-BJP minister involved. That said, when BJP ministers rallying for innocence of rape accused when the accused is or was of the same party -- that has to be mentioned.(if it had happened) 103.254.128.130 (talk) 13:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


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Category talk:Kashmir

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It would be helpful to have a usage note on this one. What goes in this category, what does not? Also, should it be part of both Category:India and Category:Pakistan? •–• 08:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added, together with a suggested usage note. Please modify as appropriate. Green Giant (talk) 14:36, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That isn't the solution to this question. Kashmiri is someone who is from Kashmir valley. Kashmiri is a language as well. There is a grey area -- I can't recall ever coming across a word for people from Jammu, as we have been using the word "Kashmiri" for them. And then, there is PoK. So someone from Pakistan can also be Kashmiri. Should we link Kashmir when we are speaking about someone from Kashmir? If yes, then which Kashmir? Should we link when we are talking about the Kashmiri language? There is a whole lot of confusion involved. •–• 15:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So, what’s your proposed wording? Green Giant (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know. There is so much politics involved that I can not decide for myself, and that is why it is flagged. •–• 17:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Why be so official about it? The point of a category is so readers can find what they want, and people don't always want things logically.  How about "This category applies to the Kashmir valley, the people from this geographic area, and the Kashmiri language." Do we have so many Kashmir articles that we need separate categories for all three or would a reader who clicks on CAT:KASHMIR quickly see what they want? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:19, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
 * As presented, this is a geocat, about an intermediate-sized region. A bit like Category:Korean Peninsula, but tricky because this one isn't a neat grouping of countries.  Supposing we continue to treat it as a geocat, neither India nor Pakistan would belong to it because neither of those countries is entirely contained within it.  Our geocats have always contained everything in the region; but whether this is a true geocat — that, it would seem, is the question.  If it's a true geocat, it should contain (according to en.wp) everything in, , , , and the .  We've struggled with how to categorize just those articles related to a larger area as a whole, but it's a can of worms and we've never come up with a straightforward solution. --Pi zero (talk) 11:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * At the very least the description should include China, since and  are administered by China; so there's three countries involved. Cheers, --SVTCobra 12:24, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm uncomfortable with a category whose name sounds like a region but whose usage note presents it as issue-driven. Seemingly either it should be a straight union of the areas that make it up, or it should have a different name. A question that arises is, how many articles are at stake, either way; another is, what would be really good name for it if we take that route. --Pi zero (talk) 19:19, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I had to see what we did for Kurdistan. But I wonder, how about Somaliland?  Maybe we can look at what we did for Jerusalem, West Bank and Gaza too? •–•  22:26, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I've just looked, via DPL, at all articles in Category:Kashmir but not any of its subregions with en.wn categories (Jammu and Kashmir, Azad Kashmir, Gilgit-Baltistan). Most of the ones I found should have been in Jammu and Kashmir, so I added them.  That left just one article, India and China to develop friendly relations, which mentions 38,000 square kilometres of Kashmir held by China and claimed by India.  Since part of that 38,000 is Aksai Chin, and I'd already noted, via string-search, two articles that could belong to a Category:Aksai Chin, maybe we have a justification for that additional subcat.  At which point Category:Kashmir would not contain any articles not in any of its subcats. --Pi zero (talk) 23:46, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

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Fill this category
 * NASA announces water on Mars
 * After Mars, NASA announces water ice on Pluto
 * NASA says water found on exoplanet
 * Mars orbiter finds widespread evidence of water-bearing minerals
 * Indian lunar mission Chandrayaan finds water on moon
 * NASA mission finds water on the Moon
 * NASA: Signs of liquid water found on surface of Mars
 * Mars studies find water
 * Saturn moon may contain liquid water
 * Geysers of water on one of Saturn's moons
 * Spirit Rover on Mars finds water made 'silica-rich soil'
 * Moon water possibly originated from comets, data shows
 * Cassini spacecraft collects sample from geyser on Saturn's moon Enceladus
 * Scientists say that a 'global layer of water' exists on Saturn's moon Titan
 * Curiosity Rover analysis suggests chemically complex lake once graced Mars's Gale crater
 * Massive ice deposits found on Mars
 * Recently discovered planet may contain 'hot ice'
 * Saturn moon Enceladus may have salty ocean
 * NASA says Phoenix spacecraft may have landed on ice
 * Signs of ancient hydrothermal vents found on Mars

Hopefully, these should be obvious candidates for this category. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 11:08, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Impressive list. No shortage of articles for this new category. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 11:53, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
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May 12, 2018 On Wednesday, a state labour court in the German capital Berlin pronounced the neutrality law of the city-state, which disallows public employees from wearing religious clothing and symbols, was in accordance with the German constitution. Justice Arne Boyer, said the neutrality law was above the freedom of religion. The ruling comes after a female Muslim teacher, who taught in a primary school for a day, complained the neutrality laws prohibited her from wearing a headscarf and violated her freedom to practice any religion.

Public servants across the country are barred from covering their face at work, with some exceptions such as firefighters for whom it is a question of safety. However, the ban does not include the hijab, a headscarf mostly worn by Muslim women. Court spokesperson Martin Dressler said, "Primary school children should be free of the influence that can be exerted by religious symbols".

This ruling came just two weeks after the recently-elected n Minister President of the  gave orders to hang the Christian cross on every state building, in school classrooms, and the courts, saying it was a "clear avowal of our  and Christian values".

Last year, the Berlin labour court decided that a school discriminated on the basis of religion when it denied a job to another Muslim teacher. The school failed to show how the teacher's headscarf was "a threat to peace at school". The teacher received EUR 8680 (about USD 10,300) as compensation.

Regulations on headscarves are varied amongst the different states of Germany. Teachers in are not prohibited from wearing a face scarf. In, the allowance is on a case-by-case basis. One primary school headteacher in wrote to parents stating headwear was not allowed in the classroom.

Per the ruling of this case, the teacher can wear a headscarf while teaching secondary school students. She can still appeal against the court's decision.


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Regarding this edit, I disagree with removing this category from Category:Pakistan. Absolutely I agree that it is a grey area e.g. there is no representation in the Pakistani parliament, but removing it from CAT:Pakistan would suggest there is no link whatsoever. Looking through the, I’ve eventually reached this page, which seems to be the legal basis for the current political status of this territory. The territorial governor is appointed by the government of Pakistan, which also has a cabinet minister who specifically oversees Gilgit-Baltistan and the neighbouring. I also note that the Indian-administered part of Kashmir has significant autonomy in comparison to other Indian states. I think it’s better to link the relevant subcategories to the countries that administer them. Green Giant (talk) 16:11, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Curacao is part of the Kingdom of Netherlands, but we don't have that mentioned in the category, so I guess a simple rollback does not clarify this situation, and we need a discussion. •–• 17:36, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Legal status seems reminiscent of FATA. --Pi zero (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

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Let's just keep it simple. I've found that usually avoids a lot of problems, with category intros. We only need enough to identify it, here; detailed descriptions should be left to Wikipedia unless particular details impinge on category usage. --Pi zero (talk) 18:10, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Kind of what I said in the last edit -- saves us from being politically incorrect, at the place where we should not even attempt to be. •–• 18:13, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately it’s not as simple as we would wish. Acagastya has raised the issue of usage at Category talk:Kashmir, which is what I was trying to address. The name "Jammu and Kashmir" applies to the whole region (which we have labelled as Category:Kashmir), the Indian-administered state (this category), and the Pakistani-administered autonomous territory (Category:Azad Kashmir, fully known as "Azad Jammu and Kashmir", where the word "Azad" means "Free"). If we are not going to have some explanation of the dispute, i think we should be non-partisan in our approach to naming categories i.e. let’s use more neutral terms. And no, Acagastya, I think your approach is somewhat biased towards one side because you haven’t removed the same words from the other two categories. Let’s remove it from all of them or keep it in all of them but not a partial approach. Green Giant (talk) 18:23, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I see your point. The other two each have a sentence tacked onto the end of the intro, "It is part of the disputed Kashmir region."  If the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir is, in its entirety, "part of the disputed Kashmir region", then we should have the same sentence here.  My initial impression is that it is.  Perhaps this question is part of what is so complicated/murky about Kashmir?  --Pi zero (talk) 18:31, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have not done it because I am working on an article, and this situation can not be dealt with just within minutes. •–• 19:04, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

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Pakistani parliament passes bill for transgender rights

May 11, 2018 On Tuesday, Pakistan's passed a bill at Islamabad's  which granted transgender people various civil rights. The bill, "Transgender Persons (Protection of Rights) Act", which was presented by Pakistan Peoples Party's lawmaker, was approved by the senate in March, and now awaits signature of the president.

The bill ensures people have the right to identify themselves as male, female or as "", also known as  in Pakistan. This identity choice is to be reflected in the, as well as other official documents like passports and driving licence.

Per the bill, transgender people can now cast votes, run for election, have the right to assemble, and can obtain loans for business startups. They are also eligible to inherit property per their identified gender. Transgender people are to be no longer discriminated at school, working place, for medical services, public transportation facilities, by their employers, or at private business. Separate confinement areas, jails and prisons are to be established for transgenders. Anyone found guilty of forcing transgenders to beg is to face a six-month prison term as well as 50 thousand fine.

The legislation was sent to and later approved by the, a government advisory body. Lahore-based activist Mehlab Jameel, who was involved in writing the bill, said the Council of Islamic Ideology "appreciated that the bill included directions on inheritance in accordance with Shari'a" law.

Last year, transgenders were included for the census count for the first time. Mehlab Jameel said, "the definition of 'transgender' [...] was basically based on genitals" in the initial draft of the bill, written last year.

Speaking to National Public Radio, Jameel said, "This kind of development is not only unprecedented in Pakistani history, but it's one of the most progressive laws in the whole world." Human Rights Watch has reported at least four deaths of transgenders in the country since the beginning of 2018, and at least 57 transgenders were killed in Pakistan since 2015. Pakistan's —reportedly— first transgender news anchor and activist told Images the transgenders "are forced to dance and beg because they have no other means to make ends meet." "My trans friends who have masters degrees don't have jobs which is why they end up on streets or become sex workers", Malik added.

The draft for the policy to implement this bill is not yet prepared. From the date the bill was approved, President Hussain has ten days to sign the bill or reject it.


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For now that is the umbrella category that we have for such articles. Even if we do add Category:Transgender it would still be a subset of LGBT because that is what the 'T' stands for. It is a proper subset. I have seen a little of what Acagastya has said on other talk pages and edit summaries, and it seems to me there's some axe grinding going on. --SVTCobra 10:49, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * T is a proper subset of LGBT, but this bill is exclusively for T - LGBT in terms of set -- when homo/bisexuals are clearly excluded, it may have very less to do with the other three, which, by the way are illegal in Pakistan. They aren't getting any rights with this bill, or are even mentioned in the article. In any case, a separate category is a must. •–• 11:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that is how we deal with all categories. The bill only applies to Pakistan, but we include the article in Category:Asia. Cheers, --SVTCobra 11:51, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * LGBT rights does not exist in overwhelming majority of Asian countries, and this is exclusive for T, which is not dependent on a partner, unlike L, G or B. They are alienated in this case. •–• 12:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The LGBT category can deal with rights or the lack thereof. Just like Category:Human rights can deal with human rights being protected or abused. The article fits within the scope of the LGBT category, regardless how you feel about the partnerships or alienation of the constituent groups that it covers. It is not a formal organization. --SVTCobra 12:40, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * protection or abuse of rights for LGB is not even discussed in this article. LGBT category should be used only when the article focuses on homo, bi, and trans; if it is individual, then prefer individual categories, especially when trans deals with ones own identity and not whom one wants to have relation with. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 13:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Category:LGBT is a union category, not an intersection: it is inclusive of anything to do with any of the subtopics.  The article belongs to Category:Human rights, as would any article that deals with any aspect of human rights despite whatever aspects it doesn't deal with.  The general principle suggested for categories is that they exist for someone who is searching for articles related to a topic: if somebody is looking in our archives for articles related to "LGBT", they would want to know about this article.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:27, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * -edit conflict- It is the overarching category that covers this subject. If we have enough articles for Category:Transgender or Category:Transgender rights, such categories can be added, but LGBT should not be removed. --SVTCobra 13:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

When writing the story about something happening in Tel Aviv, one would first add that category, and then add Category:Israel -- not doing so just seems weird -- (and since this is so overdone, I find it odd, and this is led to disagreement so many times) is just weird. It is a different scenario if we did not have category for Tel Aviv. It is a completely different story if there weren't enough articles for that category -- and I have always stressed upon doing things now rather than leaving it for future and now we have enough articles for the transgender category so it should be done.

I am still not convinced of having Category:India for a truck accident in Andhra Pradesh (the veterans will tell me otherwise) and the same applies for my views on LGBT or any category for it to be inclusive, (not exactly a mathematical intersection, but something that is not alienating/excluding others), -- there should be an exclusive category for transgenders. •–• 13:28, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I do not find your argument to be consistent. Tel Aviv should be in Israel, but Andhra Pradesh not in India? LGBT does not excludes/alienates Transgender? I am utterly confused. --SVTCobra 14:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Clearly, you did not differentiate a generic case with a specific example. An accident in Yerpedu is not big enough for having Category:India -- that is my personl opinion -- don't mingle it with the generic example of what is happening on enwn. •–• 14:44, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * But you were the one that commingled the generic with the specific. Either use two generic examples or two specific examples. Either way, this "big enough" concept seems unworkable to me. How many must die before it is "big enough" to be included? There's no way to ascribe these value judgements. --SVTCobra 14:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

If I might offer some broad perspective.

The single most awkward thing about our category hierarchy is this question of whether articles in a child category ought to belong to the parent category. In some cases, yes. In some cases, not necessarily. So here we are, with a simple system that, despite its imperfections, benefits hugely from being simple. --Pi zero (talk) 15:00, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * In the case of geocats —as we have long done things— the reason for putting all articles of the child into the parent is so that when generating a DPL, one can use the parent as a union of its descendants. Very often one wants to be able to specify such a union.  The driving force here is that DPLs only directly support intersections of categories, not unions.
 * Each DPL also only supports up to six categories. On Wikinews it takes at least two of these just to specify that you only want published articles: Category:Published and negation of Category:No publish, leaving only four discretionary categories to play around with in the DPL.  So there's no practical way to ask for articles in a parent category and then specify, individually, to exclude each of its children; there'd usually be way too many children, as well as the set of children being not fixed over time.  Also, just because an article belongs to a child doesn't always mean it's not also directly relevant to the parent.
 * On English Wikibooks, we have a subject hierarchy (now being revamped as a "shelf" hierarchy, btw) that allows both at once: Each book is explicitly listed as belonging to certain subjects, but not usually to the ancestors of those subjects.  For each subject there is a "subject category" containing only books that explicitly list themselves in that subject, and then there is also an "allbooks category" containing every book that explicitly lists itself in either that subject or any descendant of that subject.  For example, for b:Subject:History there is b:Category:Subject:History (atm it has 55 books), and then there is b:Category:Subject:History/all books (atm it has 153 books).
 * The allbooks categories are populated automatically; however, this requires a certain amount of discipline on the books, a great deal of discipline on the subject pages and the various categories, and rather a lot of semi-automation. It's not quite as easy to manage subjects for a book as it is to manage ordinary categories for a wiki page, and the system itself is not easy to revise (the subject hierarchy can be changed, books can be listed under different subjects, but any fundamental change to the way the system works is insanely difficult to implement).  It wold be tricky to adopt such a system on Wikinews, because page structure is less inherently disciplined, and I would be very worried both about the ease of management and the rigidity.
 * As soon as one starts dabbling in this sort of thing, there's a powerful temptation to relate it to the distinction between an article that centrally involves a topic, and an article that peripherally involves that topic; and that leads to a staggeringly more complicated task of categorizing articles. I sometimes find myself, as I struggle to decide whether an article is closely enough related to a category to be categorized in it, half-wishing to be able to indicate it's "peripherally related" — but I don't really wish for that, because it would only make the problem worse by introducing more gradations of options to have to choose between.
 * (Yet to read Pi zero's remarks, replying to SVTCobra): I did not mingle -- both of them are in different paragraphs, and if you can not differentiate it, well may be you should. I don't have a problem with the number of deaths -- it just does not speak for the entire country -- that article has a state-level importance (with the sand related scandal involved), but not a national level importance, and definitely not freaking Asia. •–• 17:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Regarding your specific example: Maybe it is not even a state-level importance, but only for Munagalapalem. Who is to make this subjective importance level decision? I noticed recently that you think individual Bundesliga match reports are important for all of Europe as you made numerous Add-Cat requests. Why would a nominally meaningless sporting event in Germany be important to all of Europe? We cannot have such a value-based judgement system or we would spend all our lives fighting about categories. We need a simple and unambiguous system, and I think we have it.
 * At this point it amounts to a fundamental change in how we use categories, so I suggest formulating a proposal at Water cooler/policy if you are serious about changing this.
 * Cheers, --SVTCobra 06:13, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thatid for staying consistent with the ongoing way of categorising. I remember in 2015, I mockingly said, “Why not add Earth’s category for all the events happening on earth?” •–• 08:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You would not be the first. That discussion was up for Category:World. But essentially, the consensus was it was redundant.--SVTCobra 09:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Support of having a separate category for transgender not under the umbrella of lgbt
Hello everyone, I don't contribute to Wikinews so I might not have that much of a say in things here. Nonetheless I wanted to support Acagastya as I recently received more insight into the whole topic of transgender rights. For people not involved in the topic it seems like transgenders "belong" to the group of lgbt. For example transgender women might be classified as gay men that want to act effeminate. However a lot of transgender people just really feel like their "biological" sex is not the sex that they want to live as. This is about how a person identifies themselves. It has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. lgb are all sexual orientations. T however is a gender identity. Thus there have been efforts from official organisation to not use the word "transsexual" anymore and instead of that switch to transgender or transidendity or simply trans. Having trans people constantly mushed in with lgb people sexualizes trans people even if they don't want to. Image for example you were born with chimerism having both male and female sex organs however one of those were removed at birth. When you grow up you come to find out that you did more identify as the one that was removed. Now people classify you as gay or lesbian and throw all those labels at you even though none of this was your fault and all you want to do is just live an absolutely "normal" life as a person with the sex that you feel most comfortable with living in. I hope that I explained why being thrown in one pot with lgb is not what trans people generally want. I hope that over time the general population will gain more insight in this and more understand. --Sparrow (麻雀) (talk) 10:25, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * NOTE (for other Wikinewsies) There was a related discussion in Wikimedia LGBT+ telegram group, where an editor pointed out that en:w:Transgender was not linked to any of the articles on frwp. The "closest" article that editor could find was fr:w:transidentité which was linked to en:w:transsexual. That discussion was going at the same time and I really think we should consider reading those messages for the other angle. •–• 12:51, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It is a historical fact that the original LGB community opened op to include issues of gender identity. And ever more so, with a veritable alphabet soup being added to to the acronym. I do not have any specific statistics to throw at you, but it seems quite clear that a majority of Transgender people, as well as Intersex people and Asexual people, have been happy to join with LGB and support each other as they fight for their rights. The commonality shared in being discriminated against, sometimes by law, has led these diverse communities to come together. They march together, they support each other. These are facts. Now I am equally sure that there are some, such as you two, who don't share this view. I wonder what the root cause for your dissent is? Are homosexuals offensive to you? --SVTCobra 13:17, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It goes further than that. Certainly in the context of things like the Stonewall Riots, a better description would be that trans people were part of a unified movement with LGB people from the start (see Marsha P. Johnson, Sylvia Rivera) and gender non-conformity has been part of the gay movement since the start (watch Paris Is Burning, or go see a drag show). The idea that transgender folk were just added last week as an afterthought or something is historically inaccurate. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:54, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

 * As I've said at Category talk:LGBT, I don't have a problem with having a transgender category, but I broadly agree with the idea that the LGBT category is a union category, and the trans category should be part of it. See aforementioned talk page for my full comments. —Tom Morris (talk) 19:55, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

 * Talking to different trans people, this is a frequently expressed 'peeve'. Gender rights and issues are separate from sexuality and orientation rights and issues. The umbrella of LGBT+ is convenient for many, however in practice this can lead to the loudest voices holding the stage. Though we are unlikely to see an immediate change in top level categorisation, where there are opportunities to give trans topics a distinct space, this would be both a sensible and respectful approach. --Fæ (talk) 11:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)


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In discussion (elsewhere), we were considering as alternatives for the headline either

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--Pi zero (talk) 23:56, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I was thinking something like the second one. Green Giant (talk) 00:05, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I find addition of colon beating the purpose of you moving it at the first place. Well, I am not quite convinced what you were trying to tell me about the colon because we hardly spoke about it. But I find this one somewhat similar yet more specific as compared to the original one; as if it concerns only the people from Berlin; and we didn’t discuss much about it on IRC, so I don’t know what you think of it. I would have preferred “Berlin court pronounces” because it mentioned country as well as did not diminish the preciseness. •–• 04:20, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I made the remarks above since Green Giant already had the article under review at the time. I would have gone for a verb in place of the colon, I think, but Green Giant's choice works too.  Green Giant's version does mention the country, I note, though saving a few characters by using the adjectival form rather than the possessive, "German" rather than "Germany's".  --Pi zero (talk) 04:36, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That was one of the versions I thought, but I am still not convinced about the colon, what you were trying to say; maybe we will discuss it when my mind is empty. •–• 04:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If the colon is kept, the next letter should be capitalized. --SVTCobra 04:59, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Should it? I recall, from ages ago when I first got my copy of the  and made a valiant attempt to read it straight through (so I'd have been exposed once to everything in it), they recommended following a colon with an upper-case letter if the colon is meant to apply to multiple sentences (to the end of a paragraph), or a lower-case letter if the colon is meant to apply only until the next sentence-end.  Of course, that rule pertains to a colon within text that's divided into paragraphs and sentences, whereas a headline is inherently single-sentence; but it does offer some support for a lower-case letter.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't have the reference materials at hand, but it is my recollection that full sentences after a colon would call for a capital letter. I think what you are citing is when using colons in the body of the work. In a title, I would be inclined to capitalize even if it's just a list of items. [Not that that should occur with our call for an active voice]. The use of a colon in a title makes what follows a subtitle, which should follow the same rules as a stand-alone title. --SVTCobra 14:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I also believe we have been following that rule, consciously or not. See: United States: Two killed, more than a hundred injured in Amtrak train collision in South Carolina and United States: Four injured in Los Angeles school shooting. --SVTCobra 14:19, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


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 * 1) Bomb explosion in Somaliland kills four cops event that took place in Somaliland ✅
 * 2) European Union offers to train Somali troops as fighting breaks out explosives found in this area killed three which is secondary or pseudo-primary to the article ✅
 * 3) Nine hundred thousand Somalis face food crisis mentioned in the lede, key to article's focus. ✅
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 * 5) Somali hospital hit by shells after continued unrest minute, but crucial detail about it claiming independence. ❌: background mention, rather than news proper
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I am a writer, I can write newspaper articles and magazine articles. I can photograph situations that are happening around the world.

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Comments:Pennsylvania state trooper found guilty of first-degree murder

I think she made him kill her husband and I hope she pays for it. She is pure evil and she hope she gets what she deserves by spending the rest of her life in prison. R. I. P. John


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German beer company Eichbaum issues public apology for printing Saudi Arabian flag on beer bottle caps

May 14, 2018 On Friday, German company  issued a public apology and said they have halted their marketing campaign of printing caps of beer bottles with flags of 32 countries participating in next month's  in Russia. Saudi Arabia's flag printed on a beer bottle was condemned by many on social networking platforms.

is banned in Saudi Arabia. It is considered  in Islam, meaning Muslims are prohibited from consuming alcohol. Saudi Arabia's flag bears the Islamic , or the creed "Kalimat al-Tawheed", that is. Saudi Arabia's embassy in Germany published a statement on Twitter saying printing the flag with shahada on beer beverage "constitutes a violation to the holiness of the word, an insult to the flag and a provocation against the feelings of Muslims".

The -based company, in their statement, said, "We have no interest in religious or political manifestations — certainly not about our products. If we have offended you unintentionally, we apologise." Company's marketing director Holger Vatter-Schönthal said, "We did not know that the characters were a creed. We have only checked whether the flags of the participants are correct."

The marketing strategy was condemned by Saudi Arabia's embassy in German capital Berlin. Eichbaum said they are trying to remove all the beer bottles bearing the Saudi Arabian flag.


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May 2018
Fill this category
 * Space Shuttle Discovery arrives at International Space Station
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launches on final mission
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launches
 * Final launch of Space Shuttle Discovery delayed until at least Thursday
 * Space shuttle Discovery safely arrives at launch pad
 * Final launch of Space Shuttle Discovery delayed another day
 * Launch of space shuttle Discovery delayed indefinitely
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launches for mission STS-120
 * Space Shuttle Discovery lands safely in California
 * NASA sets launch date for Space Shuttle Discovery
 * Space Shuttle Discovery STS-114 landing postponed for weather
 * Space Shuttle Discovery successfully lifts off on mission STS-128
 * Space shuttle Discovery back in Florida
 * Space Shuttle Discovery lands for final time
 * Space shuttle Discovery photographed from ISS
 * Space Shuttle Discovery lands in Florida
 * Space Shuttle Discovery to return to Earth
 * Discovery lands at Kennedy Space Center
 * Space shuttle Discovery cleared for Monday launch
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launches for mission STS-121
 * Launch of Space Shuttle Discovery further delayed
 * Space Shuttle Discovery resumes rollout to launch pad
 * Discovery docks with International Space Station
 * NASA to launch Discovery despite crack in insulation foam
 * Space Shuttle Discovery successfully launches after a month of delays
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launch scheduled for Tuesday
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launches on mission STS-124
 * Space Shuttle Discovery landing cancelled for today/Brief
 * Space Shuttle Discovery STS-114 landing postponed for weather/Brief
 * Crew of Discovery inspect Shuttle for launch damage
 * Discovery going for second launch since 2003 Columbia loss
 * Shuttle Discovery given 'go' for landing at Edwards AFB
 * Rules may be bent to launch Discovery
 * NASA prepares to roll orbiter Discovery to launch pad
 * Space Shuttle Discovery launch on indefinite hold
 * Shuttle Discovery moved to VAB ahead of May launch
 * Discovery Space Shuttle Launch scheduled for July 13
 * Discovery launches after scrubbed attempt

Hopefully, all of these will be obvious candidates for this category. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 23:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

 * Hmm. I see we also have articles on Space Shuttle Atlantis and Space Shuttle Endevour, if not more. May I suggest we just have one category for the entire Space Shuttle Program, especially since it has already ended. Cheers, --SVTCobra 03:30, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * Categories provide nagivation through the archives; the fact that the program has ended doesn't make it less relevant to track articles about individual shuttles. --Pi zero (talk) 03:54, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * OK, but is it relevant to track individual shuttles? --SVTCobra 03:56, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * If we've got articles about them, why not? And in addition to purely beind-the-scenes organization of our archives, the more things we have links for, the more wikilinks from our articles are local, and the more incoming interwikis there are.  --Pi zero (talk) 05:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * But shouldn't there then also be a category for the program. The shuttles had overlapping operational histories, if one wants to follow our archives chronologically, such a category would be necessary. --SVTCobra 08:42, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * I think there are just too many articles about the individual shuttle orbiters to justify a single category. It just seemed inconsistent to have a category for Atlantis but not the others, although I haven’t checked how many articles are about Columbia and Challenger. I suspect there are not enough articles on the latter two to justify separate categories but they would fit into an overarching Category:Space Shuttle. Alternatively I was thinking it might be useful to have a Category:Human spaceflight, combining the individual Space Shuttle categories, Category:Soyuz programme, and Category:Orion spacecraft. I’m less sure about including Category:Apollo program, because the articles seem to be more about the astronauts or referencing the Moon landings than about the spaceflights themselves. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 08:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

 * More categories is a good thing, provided they're news-ish rather than encyclopedic in character, and they're easy to maintain — which atm means mainly that they naturally tend to be referenced by a keyword, so that w is engaged in populating them. I would favor having categories for various individual vehicles and, perhaps, also for the shuttle program as a whole. I had long-range plans (I recall, from some years ago when I last tinkered with this particular corner of the category hierarchy) to use this part of the category hierarchy as a testbed for a notion I've been working on, wherein a complete set of categories cover some aspect of things regardless of whether some elements of the set are too small to justify on their own account. The idea is, somehow, that when you click on a wikilink for an element of the set, you're taken not to an individual page for just that one tiny (perhaps even empty) category, but to some sort of page for the set as a whole, with perhaps a list of all the individual elements, specifying how many articles there are in each element, and allowing either expansion or visiting the individual element however small it might be. Exactly how this might work, I never fully worked out; but there are cases where it's much easier to work with a set if you can be confident that all the elements of the set will have categories.  We already have at least three of these:  we have categories for all the countries in the world, even though some of them are individually sparse (we used to claim we had at least one article about every country in the world, but I think we later discovered there was one exception to this), and we have categories for all the states of the US, and iirc all the states of Australia.  I've long wanted to do all the states of India, but without a clean way to handle complete sets with underpopulated elements, several Indian states succumbed several years ago to our rule-of-thumb about at-least-three-articles.  Anyway, as a testbed for the concept, I was toying with the idea of having separate categories for each shuttle mission.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:37, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:Berlin court: neutrality law above German religious freedom, bans teacher headscarves in primary school/I think Germany's doing a good job

This is how issues about religious tolerance vs freedom from religion should be run. Qualified judges should decide on a case by case basis while relying on precedent to make decisions quickly. Having the legislature make strict lines about what's allowed is an inflexible and bad system.


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