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Israeli Supreme Court overturns expulsion of US student

October 20, 2018

On Thursday, the Israeli ruled in favor of Lara Alqasem, a 22-year-old  student who appealed an expulsion order, allowing her to remain in the country. She was refused entry upon arrival in Israel on October 2 at and threatened with deportation; Israeli authorities alleged that Alqasem supported a pro-Palestinian boycott against the state. The student was held in custody as she appealed the order.

On entry at Ben Gurion, Alqasem had a valid student visa to enrol in the. According to reports recounted by The New York Times, the student recently served as president to a small chapter of (SJP). Israel enacted a law in 2017 granting the state the authority to deport individuals supporting the movement.

An Israeli lawyer representing the student called the allegation "egregious"; Alqasem studied in Florida. The Hebrew University asked to join her during the appeal process, in defence of Israel's academic freedom. The director of the university, Barak Medina, stated: "To be clear, we strongly oppose the boycott campaign against Israel, and Israel has to fight it[...] But to deny entry to every person who has expressed support for a boycott is counterproductive".

Alqasem appealed to the Israeli High Court after being rejected by a lower court. The ruling allows her to pursue further education in the country.


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Review of revision 4438857 [Not ready]
I was working on addressing the points you raised but noticed your first caveat. I admittedly misunderstood what “freshness” meant when I wrote this article. Because new information is still being published about this story, I thought it was permissible. Since I cannot change the time of the story, should I just move on and find another subject?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:00, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Pi zero. To further clarify: the freshness may in some cases be addressed by a refocus. That is,
 * 1) a new event is written of which is fresh, while
 * 2) some of the current content remains at the end of the new story as background.

Here is a fresher event from October 12: The Tel Aviv District Court rejected on Friday (October 12th) the appeal (to Supreme Court?). The deportation was delayed to October 14, 10am local time.

"The Tel Aviv District Court rejected on Friday the appeal by the American student who was barred entry to Israel over alleged ties to the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement and detained for 10 days." (haaretz)

"Lara Alqasem, 22, had filed an appeal with the Tel Aviv District Court on Thursday after being held for more than a week since arriving from the United States to begin a master's degree at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, despite having a valid student visa." (aljazeera)

"Her deportation has been delayed until October 14 at 10 AM." (haaretz)

However October 12th is still not fresh enough. October 14th could be sufficiently fresh for publication.

00:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC) - time now (UTC)

If there is evidence online of the fact that the student was deported -- I couldn't find any, for some reason. Can you? -- then the refocus could work.

--Gryllida (chat) 00:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , according to the latest reports, the Israeli Supreme Court has delayed her deportation until Wednesday. I could refocus on their final decision—whatever the outcome may be—if that is acceptable.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * TheGracefulSlick: Yes this is acceptable. :) (Sometimes marked with prepared tag at the top, but it is optional.)
 * Not sure how it is possible given that in one of the sources I linked, the appeal was disallowed, but I guess someone higher made a different decision. I hope you can be more clear and less vague than the sources which we are reading. :) --Gryllida (chat) 00:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

The 'when'; two sources for the focal event
Hello TheGracefulSlick,

1) "Lara Alqasem, a 22 year-old University of Florida student, has appealed against an expulsion order by the Israeli High Court." when did this occur? This needs to be added to the first paragraph. It is my understanding that
 * the appeal itself occurred a long time ago (maybe even last week);
 * hearing in the Supreme Court occurred this Wednesday the 17th;
 * Supreme Court was 'friendly' according to the source provided, challenging the other side;
 * Supreme Court needs to output a verdict - unknown when;
 * deportation not done - the student still in the country is this correct? - to me it is unclear what is the current planned the deportation date.

2) The focal event --the subject of the headline and the first paragraph-- needs to be supported by two independent sources. Only one such source is currently provided.

--Gryllida (chat) 23:26, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I updated the article in light of the court ruling in favor of her. It happened today so I also updated the date and slightly refocused the intro.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 21:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * 1. The headline and the leading paragraph need to talk of the same thing, "The ___ Court ruled in favour of her" (with a few more words to clue the reader in"). This is not currently the case. 2. The dates need to be very clear, she was detained for over 10 days I think and after reading the first paragraph this is not clear to me either. --Gryllida (chat) 23:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


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U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren releases DNA test results, asks Donald Trump to make promised donation

October 18, 2018

United States Senator Elizabeth Warren released to newspaper  on Sunday, with public statement following on Monday, the results of a DNA test suggesting she has somewhere from 1/64 to 1/1024 ancestry. She took the test in response to a dare from U.S. President Donald Trump, who promised at a rally this July to donate USD1 million to a worthy cause if she could prove she had Native American genes, as she claimed. Warren on Monday reminded Trump of his offer publicly on Twitter: "By the way, @realDonaldTrump: Remember saying on 7/5 that you'd give $1M to a charity of my choice if my DNA showed Native American ancestry? I remember – and here's the verdict. Please send the check to the National Indigenous Women's Resource Center".

Trump responded by telling the press "I didn't say that. You better read it again." He later added he would only write the check if he could personally test Warren's DNA himself, adding "That will not be something I enjoy doing, either."

An aide to Warren said her DNA was collected in August. It was tested by professor and genetics expert, who. Accoriding to Bustamante's report, "While the vast majority of the individual's ancestry is European, the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual's pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago." Bustamante himself told the press about a stretch of genes on Warren's 10th chromosome. "We found five segments, and that long segment was pretty significant. It tells us about one ancestor, and we can't rule out more ancestors. [...] We are confident it is not an error."

Chuck Hoskin Jr., Secretary of State of the, voiced a concern: "Using a DNA test to lay claim to any connection to the Cherokee Nation or any tribal nation, even vaguely, is inappropriate and wrong. [...] Senator Warren is undermining tribal interests with her continued claims of tribal heritage."

Democratic strategist told the press, "She is most clearly doing the things you do if you're running for president."

Teaching from 1987 to 1995 at the, Warren identified there as Native American, and again at , where she served as a professor. This fact re-emerged during her 2012 campaign for the senate, drawing some criticism. President Trump has sarcastically referred to Senator Warren by the nickname "" after the famous chief's daughter. Warren has said she identified as Native American during that part of her life because that was when her older female relatives were dying and she wanted to feel closer to her family history. Warren said on Monday via Twitter, "DNA & family history has nothing to do with tribal affiliation or citizenship, which is determined only – only – by Tribal Nations. I respect the distinction, & don't list myself as Native in the Senate."

In the 1980s and 1990s, universities like Harvard and Penn were under pressure to show they had minorities on staff. Warren recently released employment documents to The Boston Globe that reportedly indicated her purported ethnicity did not affect her career.

Warren's family's history names a great-great-great grandmother called O.C. Sarah Smith. She is listed as white on period documents, but Warren's family maintained she was, in some degree, Native American.

Bustamante's report notes searching DNA for Native American ancestry is difficult because the databases of known Native American DNA to which to compare samples are relatively small. Some tribal authorities have asked their members not to participate in genetic studies because of exploitation and misuse by scientists in the past. In one case, beginning in 1989, hundreds of provided blood samples to researchers from the University of Arizona who claimed they were performing a study on, from which many Havasupai suffered. The donors later learned their samples were used not only for diabetes but for other disease studies and for migration studies that contradicted the tribe's traditional stories about its origin. This was without the donors' knowledge or permission, in violation of standard medical ethics. This led to the  lawsuit, which was settled in 2010. Warren's sample was tested against samples from Mexico and South America believed to have genetic markers in common with Native Americans from what is now the United States.


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The starting point
I find it surprising when the first two paragraphs are written from one source. I know this can be fixed in the future, but ...

This information may be difficult to verify once written up compared with finding a second source first and only then writing a paragraph or two based on information that is already fact-checked.

That is, in my opinion fact checking is easier to do before or during writing a paragraph than after.

Just a remark on the process. Perhaps different people have different processes -- but I think it is worth sharing the thought in case someone finds it useful.

--Gryllida (chat) 00:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually I started by reading the New York Times article, which we must use sparingly here. I then scouted for more sources that could back things up while remaining accessible to reviewers.  I often write Wikinews articles starting from a news report I heard on the radio. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:09, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Could add this as a source, too. Is the radio transcript available online? Gryllida (chat) 01:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't start from the radio this time. It's just an example of how a lot of the articles I write start with a source that isn't ideal for use on Wikinews despite being fully reliable.  The New York Times allows limited non-paywall access to non-subscribers, so it's possible to use it, but the reviewer loses one of their five or so free articles per month.  Other sources were available, so I used them after the fact. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:13, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh ok. Is the radio script generally available online in your area? --Gryllida (chat) 01:15, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It's been a while since I checked but I vaguely remember the transcripts being unsatisfying to the point where I decided not to make a habit of using them. Sometimes that station posts something, but I recall it being more like a companion article than a transcript. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:33, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Timings
There are some things like Twitter comments whose timing is not indicated (date for example). It may need to be added unless they were all on the same day - in which case the clarification would be nice to have too.

The date or time of the 'dare' is also unclear.

The date of the test done is unclear.

--Gryllida (chat) 01:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

 * I didn't get the Twitter comments straight from Twitter; they're from the articles. The dare was made in July, which is in the main text now.  The sample was taken in August; I'll add that. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. :) Two questions about this.
 * I'd add a note to "7/5" since to international audience it is not clear whether this is 7th of May or 5th of July.
 * Trump responded by "telling the press". This is a part of the 'How'; perhaps this can be clarified to specify which press he told this and whether he replied at Twitter?
 * --Gryllida (chat) 01:43, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Per the posted source it was "when asked by reporters on Monday." He literally told the press. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:25, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Submitting for review
At what point does this need to be submitted for review?

I presume the timings comment above may need to be addressed first.

But at what point and who would make the call for collaboration to end and the review to commence?

It happened on October 14th, and now it is 01:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC).

--Gryllida (chat) 01:23, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Where I am it's still the 15th (and I'm in the same time zone as the newspaper in which the findings were released on the 14th, so if we're going by universal time, then take into account that it may have happened on the 15th universal time even if it was 14th local). I like to let an article sit for a bit before hitting review.  That makes it easier to catch typos and simple mistakes.  But if you or anyone think it's ready now, go ahead and submit it.  I don't mind. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:26, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, do you plan to proofread it later and then submit? --Gryllida (chat) 01:41, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I usually give articles that I draft a last once-over yes, but if you think time is a factor, go ahead. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:47, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I would like to understand the process a bit better though (my head is not thinking very clearly today): does the "last once-over yes" happen a moment before you walk away saying 'collaboration welcome', or a moment before you submit for review? --Gryllida (chat) 23:27, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I usually do one last check for obvious problems (and the sorts of things Pi zero has mentioned not liking to see in articles under review, hehe heh) right before I hit the review button. "Collaboration welcome" is not something I have a set time for saying. In this case, I knew I was walking away for a while and that there would be a very low risk of edit conflicts if someone else made major changes to the article, so I gave the extra green flag for other people to contribute as they saw fit. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:50, 17 October 2018 (UTC)

Title
I really wanted to call this "Donnie dithers over DNA dare" but y'know. Current title is basically a placeholder. No objection if someone makes it snappier. Darkfrog24 (talk) 04:42, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

A bit of the 'how'
Regarding the "I remember – and here's the verdict" quote -- did that include a link to the verdict? Was it published online? How was it delivered to Donald Trump? --Gryllida (chat) 23:38, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The quote was on Twitter, but I got it from an article (and the article said they got it from Twitter). As for delivery, the fact that President Trump is active on Twitter is common and commonly lamented knowledge and the reader can see the @ symbol, which is like a Wikimedia project ping.  Are you asking if the actual Tweet had a link to the test results, the Globe article or to that video of Warren talking to the geneticist that I decided not to mention in the article?  I'll check.
 * It had a link to the charity to which she wanted the donation made and looks like it had a picture of the Boston Globe article. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:55, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am asking if the actual Tweet had a link to the test results. Gryllida (chat) 02:50, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * It did not. It had a link to the Boston Globe and to the charity of Warren's choice but that was all.  It was just a Tweet. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:10, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess this is only an allegation then. Like writing on a fence 'my DNA is 1/64 native American'.
 * We can not say "senator released the results of a DNA test" until and unless we know the venue with which the results were released.
 * This needs to be emphasized in the story.
 * (And if there is evidence to support the allegation, for example an independent party confirming the results, this needs to be emphasized.) --Gryllida (chat) 22:48, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh that's what you were getting at. I thought you just wanted the article to have more details about the Tweet itself, but you really wanted to know about how the test results were disclosed. Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:51, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm finding, on in-depth review, that we do know the venue: two different sources corroborate that she released the material on Sunday to .  If I'd gotten to this yesterday (alas, that's not the world we're living in), that might have been sufficient, but as of today there really should be a mention of Monday in the lede to establish freshness, which I'd have to figure a way of working in with sufficiently minimal intervention. --Pi zero (talk) 15:28, 18 October 2018 (UTC)


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Hello Guruhsukarnoputra,

Deleted as abandoned.

Tips to consider:

 * Write of something that happened today (or yesterday).
 * Specify when, in the first paragraph.
 * Include 1-2 sources (URLs, names of TV channels or radio stations) at the end.

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User:Jacklin jeke nilling

Jacklin Jeke Nilling is affiliated with North Eastern Regional Institute of Science and Technology (NERIST) and Indian Institute of Technology Kanpur (IITK). He was born and brought up in Arunachal Pradesh, India and is very much fascinated about science and technology. He obtained the Bachelor of Technology in Civil Engineering (2013) and the Masters of Technology in Environmental Engineering (2015) from NERIST. He pursued the Doctorate of Philosophy from IIT Kanpur (2021).

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Hi CarolineP18, please stop spamming. Why not write a news article instead??
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spamblock--Pi zero (talk) 21:18, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

Unblock request
Please unblock my account. I only copy and pasted my user bio from the Mediawiki page. If the issue is that I included a link to my website it is only because I may not check back in on a particular wiki for awhile and want people to be able to access my contact info if they need something. I try to make a practice of drawing as many points of contact between my different internet communities as possible in case I have periods of not being active in one. Thedonquixotic (talk) 21:23, 18 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Okay, I've unblocked you. No external link from your user page, please; we're pretty sensitive about neutrality, on Wikinews.  Of possible interest, here's a compact overview of the project:  Pillars of writing. --Pi zero (talk) 16:52, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Sure thing, gotcha. Thedonquixotic (talk) 17:25, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:New Mouse City

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Welcome to Wikinews, New Mouse City.

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User talk:72.225.6.147

Thank you for helping the world discover more!

Welcome
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Is Twitter exposing Saudi royal family divisions?
Hi. I've done a review of this article. Please see my review comments. --Pi zero (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 * , Thanks for the review!. I think the article should be removed. It can't be confirmed. This is my first article and I wasn't well-informed about the policies and guidelines here. I made many mistakes.--SharabSalam (talk) 01:46, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * The effort is much appreciated, though. Sure it didn't work out; but it seemed to me, looking at what you wrote, that with more familiarity with en.wn you could write quite well here. (Don't worry about the earlier article; we have a usual process by which, when an article doesn't get published, after about a week it gets deleted.) --Pi zero (talk) 02:16, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

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User:AslanFrench

Hi. I'm new to Mediawiki. I've used wikipedia for most of my life. It's probably the website that has had the biggest single impact on me and has changed my life in innumerable ways. I recently set up my own dokuwiki and now I'm trying my hand at MediaWiki after seeing the new VisualEditor. I'm quite excited to see what it can do.

I'm a UX Designer/Developer living in Austin, TX. I'd like to contribute to open source projects more, how ever I can. I'm still very early in my developer journey though so I'm mostly just dipping in my toe for now.

One of the first things I want to do is create a cool modern new theme for Mediawiki and the Visual Editor. It seems that there aren't a whole lot of good mediawiki themes and I want to change that! .... Well first I have to get my own wiki working but I'll be sure to link my git repo here when I get the first draft up!

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CC-BY 4.0 as default license in upload forms
I suggest that CC-BY 4.0 should be the default suggested licensing when using the upload forms in Wikimedia projects for own works, instead of the current CC BY-SA 4.0 license (example here at Wikinews), sometimes with dual GFDL licensing (example at Wikipedia). The main difference would be that derivatives are not required to have the same license. Reasons for changing to CC-BY 4.0 are: I want to know if you agree with this suggestion, and we can then bring it to Wikimedia's legal team for review before implementation. I know the change is technically not that hard, since we only need to change the upload form layouts, not the licenses of any already uploaded works, nor the overall licensing of any wiki. I've started a vote on this issue in Wikimedia Commons. Please go to that page to join: Mikael Häggström (talk) 21:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * It is a more permissive license.
 * It makes it much easier to combine and mix works. The combination of the two images at right, for example, would not have been possible at all if the images were licensed under let's say CC BY-SA 4.0 for the first one and CC BY-NC 2.0 for the other. However, if either was CC-BY 4.0 it would have been permitted. See WP:Adaptation for further information in this regard.
 * CC-BY is by far the most popular licensing for open access journals (see Directory of Open Access Journals - Journal license tab), and is similarly popular in databases (see CC: Data and CC licenses). CC BY-SA is therefore not compatible for inclusion in most open access journals, denying them free access to the sum of Wikimedia knowledge.
 * Most uploaders may very well be as willing to upload under CC-BY, but may not be familiar with the differences between having SA or not. The current upload form layouts thus make lots of works receiving a more restrictive licensing than necessary. Just because uploaders can upload under the most restrictive license Wikimedia has to offer doesn't mean they need to be presented with that option by default. Those who still want to put the additional SA restriction would still be able to actively choose so.
 * The currently suggested dual licensing with CC BY-SA 4.0 with GFDL such as in Wikipedia (link to form) is actually incompatible in a strict sense (see Wikipedia section on this matter, and is also a lot of extra read for those who want to know what GFDL means, since it doesn't provide the short presentation as given in Creative Commons licenses (compare GFDL license page to the CC BY-SA 4.0 page. It would therefore be both easier for uploaders and more legally correct if we simply dropped GFDL from the default license suggestion. Again, those who do want to choose dual licensing for some reason would still be able to actively choose so.
 * Commons:Commons:Village_pump/Proposals
 * Hello! Currently I do not see a reason to switch. We require derivatives to have the same license now, as otherwise I believe the content may be distributed in a proprietary fashion; is there a reason to want that? See also Copyleft. --Gryllida (chat) 21:42, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Copyleft is a curse, to be honest. And I am very much in favour of having BSD or more free licence wherever possible. The fear of "Oh, I think someone will use it in proprietary fashion" is very immature -- let it me media or the code. So much for open source and free media so that you are not willing to allow more creativity for rebuilding? I am not sure what Wikinews can do about it. And as far as I know, it is second to Wikidata for having the most permissible licence. Fuck GNU and their licences. •–• 21:30, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Upcoming math announcement
Scuttlebutt says somebody may make an announcement next Tuesday (that would be September 25) regarding the Reimann hypothesis (which is considered to be part of a Hilbert problem, from 1900, as well as a Clay Institute Millennium Prize Problem. (Link: .)  I could even imagine trying, if a viable story emerges on Tuesday and there are no other demands on my time, to write it up myself; but of course I'm not greatly in practice on the writing side and there's more likely to be difficulty finding a reviewer if I'm the reporter. --Pi zero (talk) 23:48, 20 September 2018 (UTC)


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Hi
Noticed your edits. New, though, has to be fresh when published. You can read a compact overview of what we do here at Pillars of writing; and then, if you're interested to try your hand at news writing —it's a bit of an uphill scramble at first, trying to reach the threshold for publication, but we try to help folks along, and once you get the hang of it things get much easier— there's a good tutorial on writing a first article at Writing an article (and, alternatively, a sadly-not-yet-interactive "wizard" at Article wizard). --Pi zero (talk) 13:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

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Train derails near Xinma station in Yilan, Taiwan

October 23, 2018 At around 4:50 p.m. local time (0850 UTC) on Sunday, at least eighteen passengers were killed and, by varying reports, more than another 170 injured after a train derailed in in northeast Taiwan. It was the most deaths in a train crash in Taiwan in 27 years. The was transporting 366 people when the accident occurred, according to the railways administration. On Sunday authorities said an investigation was underway to determine the cause of the incident.

Traveling between and, the train's eight carriages derailed around Xinma station.

According to Associated Press, locals assisted passengers to escape through the windows of the train before the emergency response team arrived. Emergency workers and roughly 120 soldiers worked to free survivors from the wreckage.

Injured passengers were transported to four different hospitals for treatment, The New York Times reported.

The train's conductor, according to, reported some sort of object was on the tracks and might have derailed the train. Transport ministry officials said on Monday the train driver had reported abnormally low pressure in the brakes of the train 20 minutes before the crash.

This incident exceeded the fatality count of seventeen in a train derailing at, in 2003. Previously 30 passengers died and 112 were injured as a result of a train collision in in 1991.


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Death tolls
With count of number killed in a breaking story, there's a temptation to write the number into the headline, but we've found that's risky and we modernly try to avoid it; we have technical (as well as aesthetic) reasons to avoid renaming articles after publication (it causes duplicate entries in some feeds). Btw, we mostly spell out integers up to twenty. --Pi zero (talk) 22:02, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 * understood. I wrote the title as is, mainly because I compared other articles on this site related to train accidents. What do you recommend as a replacement title?TheGracefulSlick (talk) 00:28, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe "Train derails near Xinma station in Yilan, Taiwan"? --Gryllida (chat) 00:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, alternative detail to provide uniqueness ("tell the most important and unique thing"). If the number killed seems important, sometimes one can specify a bound, or an approximation (or both). --Pi zero (talk) 00:43, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * The changeability of the numbers on such things is also a good reason to attribute such numbers with care (there are of course plenty of reasons to attribute in news reporting). --Pi zero (talk) 20:32, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

This needs to be checked for plagiarism very carefully...
...as we are not legally allowed to copy any phrases from external sources. We have to write them in our own words -- without rearranging them, instead aim to convey the information in our own succinct way. I had to correct 'a mountain tourist attraction' in the last paragraph and a phrase one paragraph up but I ask the authors and reviewers and everyone else to check more. --Gryllida (chat) 05:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


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Jordan declares intent not to renew land lease to Israel

October 24, 2018 On Sunday, King Abdullah II of Jordan announced his decision not to renew Israel's lease of two tracts of land on Jordan's side of the border. The lease, agreed upon in a, is set to expire next year.

The territories specified in the treaty are and ; in Arabic, Baqura and Ghamr; between them about 405  (1,000 ; about one and a half square ). Both tracts have served as agricultural land for Israeli farmers. Eyal Blum, the head of, in a statement said in Tzofar about 30 Israeli farmers will be affected if a new agreement is not reached.

Leading up to his announcement, protests in Jordanian capital Amman on Friday urged the king not to renew, as did a petition reportedly signed by at least 80 members of Jordan's parliament.

In response to the announcement, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated his intent to enter negotiations to "extend the existing agreement", which states that the lease renews automatically unless either party wishes otherwise, and that party must give a year's notice. The deadline for this notice is Thursday.


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NYT
Because not all of our reviewers have subscriptions to The New York Times, we have to use it sparingly. If NYT is listed as one of your sources, then a reviewer will have to give up one of their five free articles per month to do the review (if they have any left this late in the game and are willing to spend it on WN up if they are). Would it be possible for you to remove NYT and any information found solely in that article? This WN article would then still meet the requisite two source minimum. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:31, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * True, use of NYT should be minimized, if not avoided altogether. NYT is pretty clear that they intend their material to be paywalled, so we should try to respect their wishes by not using it (noting the Wikinews policy prohibition against use of pay-to-read sources). --Pi zero (talk) 02:05, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I will look for a replacement source. Unfortunately, the NYT piece was arguably the best out of the bunch I read while writing this article. Perhaps new stories have been published since I last checked.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I replaced the source with a piece by the Jerusalem Post. It did not have the same material, so I rewrote a part of the article to avoid original research. Hope this helped.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 02:36, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

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It's been suggested elsewhere (off-wiki) that the headline ought to characterize this as not renewing a lease rather than as reclaiming something. --Pi zero (talk) 01:13, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


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Simple animals could live in Martian brines: Wikinews interviews planetary scientist Vlada Stamenković

January 9, 2019 Planetary scientist Vlada Stamenković of the NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory and colleagues have developed a new chemical model of how oxygen dissolves in Martian conditions, which raises the possibility of oxygen-rich brines; enough, the work suggests, to support simple animals such as sponges. The model was published in  on October 22. Wikinews caught up with him in an email interview to find out more about his team's research and their plans for the future. The  is far too thin for humans to breathe or for lungs like ours to extract any oxygen at all. It has on average only around 0.6% of the pressure of Earth's atmosphere, and this is mainly carbon dioxide; only 0.145% of the thin Martian atmosphere is oxygen. The new model indicated these minute traces of oxygen should be able to enter salty seeps of water on or near the planet's surface at levels high enough to support life forms comparable to Earth's microbes, possibly even simple. Some life forms can survive without oxygen, but oxygen permits more energy-intensive metabolism. Almost all complex multicellular life on Earth depends on oxygen.

"We were absolutely flabbergasted [...] I went back to recalculate everything like five different times to make sure it's a real thing," Stamenković told .

"Our work is calling for a complete revision for how we think about the potential for life on Mars, and the work oxygen can do," he told , "implying that if life ever existed on Mars it might have been breathing oxygen".

Stamenković et al cite research from 2014 showing some simple sponges can survive with only 0.002 of oxygen per cubic meter (0.064  per ). Some microbes that need oxygen can survive with as little as a millionth of a mole per cubic meter (0.000032 mg per liter). In their model, they found there can be enough oxygen for microbes throughout Mars, and enough for simple sponges in oases near the poles.

In 2014, also suggesting multicellular life could exist on Mars, de Vera et al, using the facilities at the (DLR), studied some, including , which can grow high up in Antarctic mountain ranges. They showed those lichens can also survive and even grow in Mars simulation chambers. The lichens can do this because their algal component is able to produce the oxygen needed by the fungal component. Stamenković et al's research provides a way for oxygen to get into the Martian brines without algae or.

Stamenković et al found oxygen levels throughout Mars would be high enough for the least demanding (oxygen-using) microbes, for all the brines they considered, and all the methods of calculation. They published a detailed map[3] of the distributions of solubility for calcium perchlorates for their more optimistic calculations, which they reckoned were closer to the true case, with and without. The lowest concentrations were shown in the tropical southern uplands. Brine in regions poleward of about 67.5° to the north and about 72.5° to the south could have oxygen concentrations high enough for simple sponges. Closer to the poles, concentrations could go higher, approaching levels typical of sea water on Earth, 0.2 moles per cubic meter (6.4 mg per liter), for calcium perchlorates. On Earth, worms and clams that live in the muddy sea beds require 1 mg per liter, bottom feeders such as crabs and oysters 3 mg per liter, and spawning migratory fish 6 mg per liter, all within 0.2 moles per cubic meter, 6.4 mg per liter.

 * Does your paper's value of up to 0.2 moles of oxygen per cubic meter, the same as Earth's sea water, mean that there could potentially be life on Mars as active as our sea worms or even fish?

 * Stamenković: Mars is such a different place than the Earth and we still need to do so much more work before we can even start to speculate.''

Stamenković et al studied magnesium and calcium perchlorates, common on Mars. They found the highest oxygen concentrations occur when the water is colder, which happens most in polar regions.

 * The temperatures for the highest levels of oxygen are really low, -133 °C, so, is the idea that this oxygen would be retained when the brines warm up to more habitable temperatures during the day or seasonally? Or would the oxygen be lost as it warms up? Or — is the idea that it has to be some exotic biochemistry that works only at ultra low temperatures like 's life based on hydrogen peroxide and perchlorates internal to the cells as antifreeze?

 * Stamenković: The options are both: first, cool oxygen-rich environments do not need to be habitats. They could be reservoirs packed with a necessary nutrient that can be accessed from a deeper and warmer region. Second, the major reason for limiting life at low temperature is, which would not occur in the type of brines that we study.

Stamenković et al's paper is theoretical and is based on a simplified general circulation model of the Mars atmosphere — it ignores distinctions of seasons and the day / night cycle. Stamenković's team combined it with a chemical model of how oxygen would dissolve in the brines and used this to predict oxygen levels in such brines at various locations on Mars.

When asked about plans for a future model that might include seasonal timescales, Stamenković told Wikinews, "Yes, we are now exploring the kinetics part and want to see what happens on shorter timescales."

Stamenković et al's model also takes account of the tilt of the Mars axis, which varies much more than Earth's does.

Wikinews asked Stamenković if he had any ideas about whether and how sponges could survive through times when the tilt was higher and less oxygen would be available:

 * I notice from your figure[4] that there is enough oxygen for sponges only at tilts of about 45 degrees or less. Do you have any thoughts about how sponges could survive periods of time in the distant past when the Mars axial tilt exceeds 45 degrees, for instance, might there be subsurface oxygen-rich oases in caves that recolonize the surface? Also what is the exact figure for the tilt at which oxygen levels sufficient for sponges become possible? (It looks like about 45 degrees from the figure but the paper doesn't seem to give a figure for this.)

 * Stamenković: 45 deg is approx. the correct degree. We were also tempted to speculate about this temporal driver but realized that we still know so little about the potential for life on Mars/principles of life that anything related to this question would be pure speculation, unfortunately.

 * How quickly would the oxygen get into the brines — did you investigate the timescale?

 * Stamenković: No, we did not yet study the dynamics. We first needed to show that the potential is there. We are now studying the timescales and processes.

 * Could the brines that Nilton Renno and his teams simulated, forming on salt/ice interfaces within minutes in Mars simulation conditions, get oxygenated in the process of formation? If not, how long would it take for them to get oxygenated to levels sufficient for microbes? For instance could the Phoenix leg droplets have taken up enough oxygen for aerobic respiration by microbes?

 * Stamenković: Just like the answer above. Dynamics is still to be explored. (But this is a really good question 😉).

Wikinews also asked Stamenković how their research is linked to the recent discovery of possible large subglacial lake below the Martian South Pole found through radar mapping.

 * Some news stories coupled your research with the subglacial lakes announcement earlier this year. Could the oxygen get through ice into layers of brines such as the possible subglacial lakes at a depth of 1.5 km?

 * Stamenković: There are other ways to create oxygen. of water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen can liberate oxygen in the deep and that O2 could be dissolved in deep groundwater. The radiolytic power for this would come from radionuclides naturally contained in rocks, something we observe in diverse regions on Earth.

 * And I'd also like to know about your experiment you want to send to Mars to help with the search for these oxygenated brines.

 * Stamenković: We are now developing at "NASA/JPL-California Institute of Technology" a small tool, called TH2OR (Transmissive H2O Reconnaissance) that might one day fly with a yet-to-be-determined mission. It will use low frequency sounding techniques, capable of detecting groundwater at depths down to ideally a few km under the Martian surface, thanks to the high electric conductivity of only slightly salty water and Faraday's law of induction. Most likely, such a small and affordable instrument could be placed stationary on the planet’s surface or be carried passively or actively on mobile surface assets; TH2OR might be also used in combination with existing orbiting assets to increase its sounding depth. Next to determining the depth of groundwater, we should also be able to estimate its salinity and indirectly its potential chemistry, which is critical information for astrobiology and ISRU (in situ resource utilization).

 * Does your TH2OR use TDEM like the Mars 94 mission — and will it use natural ULF sources such as solar wind, diurnal variations in ionosphere heating and lightning?

 * Stamenković: The physical principle it uses is the same and this has been used for groundwater detection on the Earth for many decades; it’s Faraday’s law of induction in media that are electrically conducting (as slightly saline water is).''

 * Stamenković: However, we will focus on creating our own signal as we do not know whether the EM fields needed for such measurements exist on Mars. However, we will also account for the possibility of already existing fields.