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makeprotected acagastya PING ME! 13:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

 * ❌ I'd be more inclined to nominate this for deletion than anything else. --SVTCobra 11:39, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * btw, you would never be able to give a compelling reason. •–• 13:04, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Don't tempt me. --SVTCobra 13:08, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I would love to see you try. •–• 13:10, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * At the moment it seems useless and harmless. However, is it meant to eventually be part of MediaWiki:Recentchangestext? --SVTCobra 13:21, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

no. Neither the content, nor the template will be a part of it. The content is for the idea of admin dashboard, which something admins would always have on every page, of cource, they can opt-out. The template, however, it to test code for new templates before actually putting it out there -- in other words, something like sandbox for templates, without sandbox message being displayed; something very specific in purpose only to test templates as compared to almost anything that a sandbox is used for. •–• 13:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. But that makes me more confused as to why you want to have it protected. If I did so, you'd be locked out from modifying this template. --SVTCobra 13:43, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This is similar to votings, which is semi-protected for editing and fully protected for moving (although in this case, perhaps semi-protection from moving would make sense?). --Pi zero (talk) 13:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * But it is a project, no? If implemented then protect. But while it's a project then everyone should be able to contribute. --SVTCobra 14:04, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Make protected template asks only for protection against renaming; not editing. It would be pointless to rename this template, and that protection would make sure others can still edit it. The reason for creating make protected was to request page renaming protection after I publish an article. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 14:43, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I was going to ask what the purpose of move-protection would be, but on second thought I'm more inclined to ask what the purpose of this template is? From the history, it appears to be a sort of template sandbox.  --Pi zero (talk) 15:11, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. It is a template for testing purpose -- so that one could test a template before putting it out there. Like the beta version of the template -- also, when the template is not ready (better say incomplete) to be out there, just like the admin dashboard. I know I should be working on the dashboard, but again, there is no "copius free time" this semester. •–• 15:26, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Looking at other sisters, some of them have a template sandbox called  (Wikiquote and Wikisource use this name), but here atm we're using that name for the template that generates the standard header for Sandbox.  At least two sisters (Wikibooks and Wikipedia) have a template sandbox called  .  --Pi zero (talk) 02:44, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * this one is for “testing a template” and personally I can not think of a better self explanatory name. (But maybe it is something that others don’t feel, and that is why this discussion is happening) For the record, I was unaware of those two templates on sister projects, maybe because it is such an ill-thought concept of naming, hugely influenced by the original sandbox that I might not have ever guessed. Naming should be independent, out of reach of possible influence of other namings, so that each one is well thought, and feels obvious. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 03:08, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I remember on various projects having trouble finding the template-space sandbox page. Iirc, of the projects I looked at, only one of them had a sandbox header that specified what page to use for experimenting with templates.  If we settle on this name, perhaps we should add such a link to sandbox.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:23, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

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Fill this category acagastya PING ME! 15:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) Election of new 7 wonders of the world: deadline approaching ✅
 * 2) Canadian boy killed in Cambodian seige; Police storm school
 * 3) Plane with Korean, Czech tourists aboard crashes in Cambodia
 * 4) Search continues for crashed Cambodian plane and 22 aboard
 * It looks as if only the first of these (the 7 wonders thing) is directly about Angkor Wat. Thoughts?  --Pi zero (talk) 02:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * direct relation? [what about Griezmann's category for that obituary?] Well, jokes apart, but there are several instances where we add categories when something happens nearby/less directly. I think all of these it is okay to add the category. •–• 14:22, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, there are things done here and there that aren't ideal. Because we have a definite element of standards-enforcement on Wikinews, we can't allow ourselves to think in terms of "it was done a few times, therefore it's okay to do it more"; there's too much variety of material here, done over a long period of time to standards that have evolved.  If we allowed anything that had ever been done, our current standards would unravel entirely.  We need some pressure to improve things (where we can, though some things are archived and can't be revised), but of course not too much or we'd create an impossible amount of work for ourselves (both for present practice and past curating).  So we try to juggle all these things.  Specifically, I don't think "this happened near Angkor Wat" is worthy of categorization, it's just a description of the place where the event actually happened; the principle (set down somewhere or other, perhaps in the draft categorization policy that never got officially enacted but has largely worked its way into best practice) is that one puts an article in a category if, when researching that topic in our archives, one would like the article to show up.  "Happened nearby" doesn't feel to me like a reason to want an article to show up in researching Angkor Wat.  (Re obituaries, there are some situations that connect the present to the past, so that a category about a past event belongs on a present article; such as when current legislation directly relates to signature legislation of a previous administration; and obituaries are a particular case of this.)  --Pi zero (talk) 15:09, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I am not trying to say that we should do because we have done something like that before (that was a joke, when I mentioned that other article) But I think it is not that bad: what if one wants to know what has ever happened in Angkor Wat, or it's surroundings? [BRS actually told me regarding this; but for Ivan Rakitic's category for FIFA Balon d'Or] •–• 16:23, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I suppose it would depend on how immediate to Angkor Wat the place really is. To my mind it would have to be very proximate; closer than I was under the impression was the case here.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:32, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know why I did not think about this before. Why not Angkor? All of them would satisfactorily relate to the city category. •–• 17:03, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Consider populating Angkor's category, and delete this one. [for time being] •–• 03:05, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm a bit unclear on the different place names involved. It looks as if  is a ruined ancient city, and  is a current city whose main claim to fame atm is that it's the gateway to the ruins of Angkor.  I'm not sure how we ought to be handling that.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:25, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * It is harder than understanding Holland != Netherlands, and Yangoon and Rangoon are the same cities. However, this map might help. Looks like Angkor is a proper subset of Siem Reap. Now that it involves complexity, best to ask someone who knows a lot about Cambodia. •–• 03:37, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I think we've got the answer to my question about terminology, anyway, from that map you link to. It shows Krong Siem Reap, which afaict is neither the city, nor the  of which that city is the capital, but one of the  of the province containing the city and also containing the ruins of Angkor.  (I got clued in to this from Wikipedia article , which lists Krong Siem Reap as one of the twelve districts of the province; it notes krong means city — which is more translation help than I got out of Wiktionary or google translate — and links to the district article so I figure the name of the district is "Siem Reap City".)  --Pi zero (talk) 12:09, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * And Angkor literally translates to city. •–• 12:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * "Capital city" according to the en.wp article, which is very plausible considering how big it was at its height. --Pi zero (talk) 12:17, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Sanskrit?  Says Wiktionary.  I admit I'm out of my depth, on that.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:18, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is. Wat comes from the word "vatika" or maybe "watika" (depends on IPA) which means garden. •–• 12:21, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Of interest: the page about the city in km.wp: ក្រុងសៀមរាប.  Note the collapsed box at the bottom about the province.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:28, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
 * One approach would be to set up three categories, nested one in another, for the city, district, and province. The seven-wonders article would be in the province and district but not the city.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

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U.S. government report says climate change is human-made

November 6, 2017

On Friday, thirteen agencies within the United States government jointly issued the Climate Science Special Report, declaring that roughly 90% of climate change is caused by human activity, most notably the production of by the burning of. This directly contradicts assertions made by politicians within the administration of the current president, Donald Trump.

The report notes, "It is extremely likely that human influence has been the dominant cause of the observed warming since the mid-20th century[...] For the warming over the last century, there is no convincing alternative explanation supported by the extent of the observational evidence."

Officially, the report was submitted through the Trump Administration's Office of Science and Technology Policy, to which President Trump has not appointed a head. The official response from the rest of the White House, given to the press by White House spokesperson Raj Shah, reads as follows: "The climate has changed and is always changing. As the Climate Science Special Report states, the magnitude of future climate change depends significantly on 'remaining uncertainty in the sensitivity of Earth's climate to [] emissions[...] In the United States, energy related carbon dioxide emissions have been declining, are expected to remain flat through 2040, and will also continue to decline as a share of world emissions."

The report clocks in at roughly 500 pages and places the human contribution to the increase in the Earth's temperature at 92–123% since 1950. As explained by co-author Katherine Hayhoe, the space over 100% indicates counteraction of forces that have a cooling effect, like sun-blocking dust kicked into the upper atmosphere by. Overall, the report calls the past 115 years "the warmest in the history of modern civilization."

The study cites several factors, called "tipping points," that might make global climate change more intense, such as changes in and other major patterns in ocean currents, the loss of arctic and antarctic ice sheets, and the release of methane, a greenhouse gas, from rotting material as previously  ground begins to thaw and cites both the wildfires in California and  for effects due to global climate change. It predicts one scenario in which ocean levels rise as much as 8 (2.4 ) by the year 2100.

Unlike with previous studies on climate change released by U.S. government agencies, said one lead author, David Fahey of the, the Trump Administration does not appear to have made an effort to block publication of the report or alter the wording describing its scientific findings, though there were some alterations to the description of U.S. policy with respect to the. Fahey remarked, "I'm quite confident to say there has been no political interference in the scientific messages from this report...] Whatever fears we had weren't realized."

Head of the  and Secretary of Energy Rick Perry have both said publicly that carbon dioxide does not cause much global warming.

Phil Duffy of the noted, "This is a federal government report whose contents completely undercut [the Trump Administration's] policies, completely undercut the statements made by senior members of the administration." President Trump has announced plans to withdraw the United States form the Paris Climate Accords, in which participating countries pledge to reduce carbon emissions, and to loosen federal laws regulating fossil fuels.

The Climate Science Special Report is part of the fourth National Climate Assessment, the last of which was in 2014. The National Climate Assessments are required by a law passed by the United States Congress in 1990.


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Tennis: Nadal withdraws from Paris Masters, suffers from knee injury

November 4, 2017 Yesterday, Spanish tennis player and world number 1 Rafael Nadal withdrew from the  suffering from a knee injury.

Nadal decided to leave the tournament in Paris for a flare-up of a right knee injury during the third round match against Uruguayan in the Paris tournament. Nadal, who played the third set wearing a knee strap, said "the pain during the match was too much."

The "King of Clay" said he would consult a doctor. Last year, Nadal withdrew from French Open suffering from a wrist injury. He missed significant time from the tennis season last year, but this year, Nadal became the first person to win a particular Grand Slam on ten occasions in the open era, winning the French Open for a record tenth time. He also won the, his sixteenth grand slam title, but lost to Roger Federer in the ATP , last month.

The Spaniard said he would "do his best" for the upcoming London tournament scheduled from November 12 to 19. Nadal said, "For me it's not about London. For me it's about the longer term[...] And longer term, I'm going to do the treatment I believe that is going to be more safe and more important to keep playing tennis as long as possible."

Nadal has never won the Paris Masters tournament, and finished second only when he made his debut in the Paris Masters in 2007. However, Nadal has secured enough points to finish the season as the number 1, for the first time since 2013.


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 * Wasn't the best, I know, I did a poor job in the last one, too. But why did you remove the "days" from wikinews. You never removed it before -- but like how you said for league categorisation (which is encyclopedic approach), we shouldn't have done it, I want to know why you think so. We also need to decide what to do for league categories. Any thoughts about it? acagastya PING ME! 09:46, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


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 * I'm sorry if any of my actions made you feel bad. We'll work it out.
 * I did have time to look at all of your edit summaries this time, Pi zero, but it's not so much giving up on looking at them as I just never got that much out of them at any point. Until recently, I didn't know that you even meant them as instructive or that you were addressing them at any one person specifically.  A two-word edit summary only tells the reader so much. "Source-check" can mean that you checked a source (but can also mean any of several other things) but doesn't say what you were looking for, whether you found it or whether or not it was important.
 * I don't think you should put more effort into your edit summaries than you are currently putting. There's only some extent to which that's either your job or your place. Wikinews doesn't have an editor in chief.  It has a community.
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Italian footballer Andrea Pirlo announces retirement

November 9, 2017 On Monday, Italian midfielder formally announced his retirement from football. A 2006 winner with Italy, Pirlo had announced his intentions to end the 22-year-career last month, and his final professional game ended in a 2–0 win for  (NYCFC) against  in  play-offs at. "As my time in NYC FC comes to an end, I want to thank everybody for the kindness and support they have shown me in this incredible city", 38-year-old Pirlo wrote on Twitter. Last month, the Italian told

Pirlo spent 20 years playing in Italy, making his professional debut for before moving to Internazionale in 1998. Three years later, in 2001, he made a switch to Inter's local rivals, AC Milan. Pirlo spent a decade with Milan, and won two Serie A titles, and two UEFA Champions League titles — in 2003 and in 2007, just a year after Pirlo won the World Cup in Germany with Azzurri defeating France.

His contract with Milan expired in 2011, and then 32-year-old Pirlo moved to and joined Juventus. He won four consecutive Serie A titles with the Old Lady. He was close to winning a third UEFA Champions League gold medal in 2015, but Juventus lost 3–1 against FC Barcelona in the final.

Having won six Italian league titles, two Champions League and as well as a World Cup with the national team, Pirlo moved to Yankee Stadium in July 2015. Pirlo was substituted in during the 90th minute in his last match for NYCFC, losing 4–3 on aggregate in the MLS play-offs. NYCFC's manager said, "He [Pirlo] had a fantastic career, not just on the field but off it because he's a true gentleman. He's a really good guy."


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Unlikely to have a category of fruits, but I don't think it is good to redirect this one to Apple, Inc. There are other Apple companies, and while we have time, we should fix this. Else this can get hectic in future. acagastya PING ME! 09:46, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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Qatar appoints four women to its law-drafting Shura Council

November 11, 2017 On Thursday, Qatar's royal decree announced 28 new members were appointed for the country's. Four of those members are women, marking it the first time Qatar has appointed women for the council responsible for discussing drafting of laws and government policies.

Hind Abdul Rahman al-Muftah,, Reem al-Mansoori, and Aisha Yousef al-Mannai are the new female appointees for the 45-member council. The decree was issued by Emir. Dr Hessa al-Jaber had previously served as Communication and Information Technology minister. She was sworn in on June 26, 2013, and was nominated by emir Al Thani.

Dr Jaber wasn't the first woman to enter politics in Qatar. In 2003, became the first woman to join the Qatari cabinet, and served as Education Minister. Dr Ghalia Al Thani was the only other woman, until Dr Jaber's nomination in 2013, to serve as a minister for the Qatari government. She was Qatar's Public Health Minister.

With the ongoing regional crisis between Bahrain, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates against Qatar, the Qatari government brought some changes to their laws in the last five months. Resident law was amended and they modified labour laws for foreign workers working for the preparations for the 2022. FIFA (Fédération Internationale de Football Association) is already facing charges over mistreatment of labourers in Qatar for building stadiums. Per research conducted by New York-based organisation Human Rights Watch, workers had to work in extreme climate for stadium construction.

Last month, Qatar's Government Communications Office director Sheik Saif Al Thani told CNN labour laws were under review to guarantee "migrant workers receive the necessary on-site protections".


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If that quote explains why the policy was introduced, it is just not correct.


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flagWe need to decide if it is okay to use Women's category, and if not, what should be done? See this. •–• 18:26, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I suggest we flag the discussion there but not here. After all, if we eliminate the category, that will ensure that something gets done about this particular article, along with all the others (which was my reasoning when I added this article to the category).  --Pi zero (talk) 21:28, 11 November 2017 (UTC)


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 * So, what's your reasoning here? The page is semi-protected against casual vandalism.  Why does it warrant full protection?  --Pi zero (talk) 20:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * protect against renaming. I should change the wording. It is to add rename protection, like when an article is published. •–• 03:50, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * Here also; do you want full protection, and if so, what's the justification? --Pi zero (talk) 20:48, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * for rename. It is used for other templates. And it would be a mess if someone moves it. Just like how we have xambox protected. •–• 03:54, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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"here and elsewhere" -- you mean other templates on enwn, or from other sister projects, •–•  05:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
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flag Should be move the category to "Category:Sir Alex Ferguson" or "Category:Sir Alexander Chapman Ferguson"? So, the next question is, if we have a category for a doctorate holder, should me mention "Dr" in the page name? After all, we have Category:Queen Elizabeth II. •–• 18:07, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

 * The fact that people's titles can change is a good reason not to include them in their category names, and there are very, very few cases where we do include it. Although we do use it for Category:Queen Elizabeth II, we don't for comparable cases such as Category:Abdullah II of Jordan, who is a king.  We've included "Pope" in the names of Popes, probably as a practical concession to keep their names long enough to be unique, but is there a similar way we could avoid the title in those cases too?  Elizabeth's category could be, or something like that.  We can make the person's title appear on the category page using parameter pipe for topic cat.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:17, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

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Overly broad category?
flag This is a broad category, and hence, it is very hard to decide for most of the articles. Should we even have this category. Recently it was used for Qatar appoints four women to its law-drafting Shura Council after I removed Women's rights category. I don't think it has anything to do with Women's right. If a woman becomes the president of the US, or when Amelia Earhart became the first female aviator to cross the Atlantic ocean -- gender has nothing to do with these cases. FWIW, if tomorrow, a female becomes the Pope, that too would not concern women's rights. It is just bizarre, and belongs to wacky news category [They can't be priest, that is how it is. Right to equality law is not violated]. However, when Saudi Arabia announced women would be permitted to drive, it is correct to put under that category since it was decided on the gender. Similarly for triple talaq, since the (Indian) Supreme Court said it violated right to equality. So, how to make use of this category? •–• 18:23, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

 * This category as it exists is too broad and ill-defined to be useful, imo. I agree that the Shura Council article is not a good fit for Category:Women's rights. It does seem like there ought to be some category where it belongs, though; some place for articles about the changing roles of women in their societies.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:25, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

 * category is too broad: Why do you say it is too broad? With only 2 articles in 2017, none in 2016, one in 2015, etc. How can you say it is too broad? Sounds like an excuse to keep an important topic off wiki-news. Ottawahitech (talk) 16:04, 13 January 2018 (UTC) please pin me

 * ( I'll try to provide a helpful answer to your question, "How can you say it is too broad?"; although, frankly, if you think it's remotely plausible that we'd be trying to "keep an important topic off [Wikinews]", you've somehow got yourself deeply misguided about the nature of this place.) Few articles get added to this category for much the same reason few get added to Category:World: if interpreted in a simplistic way they would be so absurdly inclusive that they would be useless, so the only way there's any point to populating them at all is they're given some narrower interpretation — but the name of the category gives no obvious support to any narrower interpretation, leaving it up to individuals to occasionally put things here as it's not clear what else to do with them.  It is also an important part of maintaining our categories that there be keywords that naturally redirect to the category and are likely to get wikilinks from an article when, and largely not unless, the article belongs in the category; otherwise, it is currently difficult to populate the category.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

 * @Pi zero: You may not be doing it on purpose, but I believe you do not understand that women are now very much in the news as a topic. Take for example my very first article for wikinews (New book by Ellen Pao, former Chief Executive of Reddit, explores sexism in Silicon Valley), a book review of an autobiography written by a woman famous for trying to right the gender gap, initially rejected by  you as as "spam", then stale, and after a long and arduous journey  on wiki-news finally deleted rather than userified as I requested.

 * the same reason few get added to Category:World: The point is articles about women on wiki-news are not as prolific as one would hope. Comparing Category: Women to Caegory: World (which would encompass all wiki-news articles) is a red-herring. Ottawahitech (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC) Please ping me

 * From your second remark, it seems that you have a particular topic in mind, and you've supposed that this category corresponds to that topic. But it doesn't, and that's a big part of the problem that this thread was established to discuss.  The name of this category is simply "women"; it seems, from what you say, that you're already thinking of something narrower.  I believe all of us would like a category for what you're talking about... but part of what's needed, in practice, to maintain an en.wn topic category is a category name that supports a clear-cut criterion for what does and doesn't go into it, and preferably also keywords that robustly support ongoing category-population.

 * The latter part of your second remark suggests that you're supposing some causal force from our choice of categories to our choice of article coverage. Such a supposition would be unrelated to how the project works.  (Tbh, it seems to me that pretty much since you arrived you have consistently imagined that reviewers, rather than following stringent neutral review criteria (which is the case), are arbitrarily imposing some sort of bizarre social agenda on which articles they pass.  It doesn't seem to have registered on you that we are the antithesis of that; it's not just "oh, by the way, we don't do that".)

 * A few words on the subject of designing suitable category names for topics. We have a category "free speech"; various other-language Wikinews projects have a category whose name translates into English roughly as "censorship"; the two should be mapped into each other for purposes of interwiki links, though the design of Wikidata (I'm actually thinking, the misdesign of Wikidata) discourages that.  There is some lesson there about how tricky category choices can be, though.  For many years we didn't have a category for issues relating to ownership and non-ownership of guns: "the right to bear arms", "gun control", and so on.  This is not the same as a category "guns", which would be basically an encyclopedic category.  The category we've ended up with?  Category:Gun politics. --Pi zero (talk) 20:56, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

I would like to see this category replaced by one that's better-defined. I do not know what it should be called, but choosing a good name for it seems to me to be a desirable goal here. It seems as if the topic we're mostly interested in here is somewhere in the neighborhood of what, in academic circles, is referred to as "Women's studies" (imo clearly not suitable for a news category name). --Pi zero (talk) 21:06, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Question is, what type of articles would have this category as such? There are well defined categories like women’s rights, and discussion from the last night suggested about if Hillary Clinton won the US presidential election, that would be a probable candidate — Women in politics could be a better option, but seems like encyclopaedic. •–• 12:18, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I do not think we need this category at all. I have seen editprotected requests to add it to articles that seem to merely mention a woman in the title. I did allow it on requests that were related to a "first" by a woman. But if we have this category, we ought to have Category:Men as well. And before you know it, someone will say that these categories are gendered and gender is not binary, but a spectrum, and demand 73 more categories. Well, by now, you all probably know my feelings about category proliferation. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:47, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Heh. I don't think one has to be opposed to expanding the category hierarchy in order to not want that scenario.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Here's a particular case of interest: It seems to me this typifies the sort of article that belongs in... the sort of category we want to have instead of this category. --Pi zero (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * But in that case, it is not that she was not allowed to join the air club, or the FFF/RAF/ATA -- she was even honoured for her services. •–• 23:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
 * She bucked the system. That's the way sexism was in that generation.  From the sources, when she arrived in England with about a dozen other Chileans and reported to the Free French, the bureaucracy had gotten her first name wrong and they didn't know she was a woman, and when they found out she was a woman they didn't know what to do with her; they had her tending wounded pilots, till she transferred to the transport auxiliary where they let her fly (remember, she supposedly learned the word for plane before she learned the word for her mother, and she lied about her age to start flying lessons two years before she was allowed to).  The male pilots were inclined to believe women didn't fly as well as men did, a belief that was spoiled by the reality of how good the few women pilots were.  Yes, the war made people care a lot more about what a person could do, (it also induced the British military to tolerate Alan Turing despite his homosexuality), but it still took an exceptional person, with gumption, to create an example such as Duhalde did.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:39, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

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 * On second thought, the potential for confusion is a reason. --Pi zero (talk) 22:09, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

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Editprotected 'S' of September for BBC source should be in uppercase. •–• 19:45, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * 1) Partizan Belgrade kicked out of 2007/08 UEFA Cup
 * 2) Football CL: All first leg games of second qualifications round are over
 * 3) Serbia and Montenegro football: Partizan secures League title
 * 4) Partizan increases its lead
 * 5) Football CL: Third qualifying round draw results
 * 6) Serbia and Montenegro: Red Star advances to cup finals
 * 7) Football: Kežman goes to Madrid
 * 8) Former Yugoslavian footballer Stjepan Bobek dies aged 86
 * 9) Football: Kežman goes to Fenerbahçe
 * 10) Football CL: Second qualifying round final results
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Poland: Thousands of far-right nationalists gather in Warsaw to march for white supremacy, anti-liberalism, and anti-Islam on Polish independence day

November 14, 2017

On Saturday afternoon, thousands of far-right gathered in Poland's capital Warsaw to participate in "Independence March" which was organized by far-right groups including, the National Movement, and the National-Radical Camp. Participants objected to liberalism, Islam, and some banners supported white supremacy.

The slogan of this year's Independence March was "We want god". The march, which coincided with Poland's independence day, began at 3:00 P.M. local time (1400 ). Marchers chanted "Great national Poland, religion is the basis of the Polish nation, Great Catholic Poland and one nation across the borders" under banners reading "We want God" and "White Europe of brotherly nations." There were also anti-leftist, anti-United States slogans as well as slogans against liberal media broadcasters.

Poland's Interior Minister said, "We are proud that so many Poles have decided to take part in a celebration connected to the Independence Day holiday." , Polish president, condemned the march and called this march a display of "sick nationalism". He also added "there is no place [for xenophobia] in Poland". Emmanuel Nahshon, spokesperson of the Israeli Foreign Ministry, called the march "a dangerous march of extreme and racist elements" and told the Associated Press, "We hope that Polish authorities will act against the organisers [...] History teaches us that expressions of racist hate must be dealt with swiftly and decisively."

Rafał Pankowski, a sociologist of the anti-extremist organization Never Again, said, "I think that most of the organisers are not very religious, either. [...] But use Christianity as a kind of identity marker, which is mostly about being anti-Islam now."

Muslims make up under one percent of Poland's population, and Poland has refused to welcome refugees.

The organizers of the march estimate more than 100,000 people attended, but the police put the number at 60,000. Antifa Warsaw (Anti-fascist Warsaw) organized a counter-march in the capital. One of the participants, lidia Domanska said about 5000 people participated in the march. Only one clash between the two groups was reported, of a man kicking women who were holding a flag reading "Stop Fascism."

The event drew people from other European countries, including Slovakia, Sweden and Hungary. 39-year-old, a white supremacist from the United States, was invited to Poland by far-right groups, and he was scheduled to attend the event but did not. On October 27, Poland's Foreign Minister said, "He [Spencer] should not appear publicly, and especially not in Poland." Saying Spencer's opinions "are in conflict with the legal order" of the country, Waszczykowski added, "as a country which was one of the biggest victims of, we believe that the ideas promoted by Mr Spencer and his followers could pose a threat to all those who hold dear the values of human rights and democracy".

November 11 is the anniversary of the end of World War I, after which Poland regained its status as an independent country in 1918. The Independence March was first organised in 2009 and the number of participants has grown since.