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January 27, 2019 In findings published earlier this month in , scientists from the and  examine the reason for the plummeting numbers of female, Spheniscus magellanicus, that have been reported at the birds' breeding sites in South America over the past twenty years and more. Wikinews caught up with postdoctoral researcher and study co-author Natasha Gownaris to learn more. In a press release, Gownaris said, "Two decades ago, there were about 1.5 adult male Magellanic penguins for every adult female at [...] Today, it's approaching three males for every female." The findings suggested a disparity in the death rate of juvenile and adult penguins, rather than differences in chick survival, account for this difference.

Punta Tombo is one of the annual breeding sites for the species; it is in Argentina. The penguins travel thousands of miles each year to reach these sites.

The work involved building population models out of over thirty years of data collected by tagging individual penguins. Findings also suggested the pronounced sex disparity might make population models used to predict survival among other birds with a more even gender balance inappropriate for use on Megallanic penguins.

According to the data, since 1987, overall population of Magellanic penguins in Punta Tombo at one of their annual breeding sites in Argentina has declined 40%, while the male-to-female ratio has greatly increased.

Since 1983, the research team has been putting stainless steel bands on tens of thousands of chicks hatched at the Punta Tombo breeding site in Argentina, noting which juvenile and adult birds make it back to the site the next year and extrapolating how many lived and died. Among juveniles, there was a 17% survival rate for males and 12% for females. Among adults, it was 89% and 85%. These effects became compounded every year, reaching as high as six males to one female among older penguins.

The researchers noted implications for penguin conservation: Gownaris remarked, "Over the years, this team has helped preserve the land and waters around breeding colonies like Punta Tombo[...] But now we're starting to understand that, to help Magellanic penguins, you have to protect waters where they feed in winter, which are thousands of miles north from Punta Tombo." Gownaris answered a series of questions for our correspondent.

What prompted your curiosity about Magellanic penguins?

Natasha Gownaris: I've wanted to be a marine scientist since I was a child, when I would collect sand crabs () from local beaches in New York. I studied fish as a graduate student, but I have a pair of adopted parrots and I am generally fascinated by birds. Plus, penguins eat fish! Studying penguins seemed like a great way to merge my love for the ocean and my love for birds. Penguins and other seabirds are also important to study because they tell us something about the health of the ocean ecosystems they feed in, similar to the use of canaries to test air quality in coal mines. Unfortunately, the decline of many seabird species worldwide is yet another warning sign of the negative and widespread impacts humans are having on the ocean.

How did you approach putting together such a large-scale study?

NG: This study started in 1982, long before my joining the lab in March of 2016. Dr. Dee Boersma began this study as a response to a Japanese company's interest in harvesting penguins for their skin, meat, and oil. Although the project has evolved over time, Dr. Boersma had the foresight to start banding chicks in 1983 and to set up a standard protocol that we follow each year. Since then, over 44,000 chicks have been banded at Punta Tombo. We’ve been able to follow some individuals for 30+ years, collecting detailed information on things like how often they breed and how many mates they've had.

How much time did you end up spending in Argentina? What was it like at the breeding site? NG: Members of the Boersma lab and volunteers spend approximately six months each year at Punta Tombo. I was fortunate enough to spend nearly four months at the colony between 2015 and 2017. It's an incredible, otherworldly place. Magellanic penguins nest in burrows or bushes, and some areas of the colony are so dense with burrows that you feel like you're on a different planet. The colony has declined by over 40% since the study started...so I can't even imagine what it was like in the 1980s. My favorite time of the day is around 8PM, when (hopefully fat) penguins are returning to the colony en masse after a foraging trip. They are also most vocal in the morning and evening, making their characteristic braying sound— the related African penguin earned the name "" because they sound a bit like donkeys. The colony is also full of other beautiful and interesting creatures, including a -like species called the and an ostrich-like species called the.

Do you have any theories on why more female juveniles die at sea? You mention starvation; what might be the causes of that, and are there other possible explanations you can think of?

NG: We are not yet certain why females are more likely to die, but we think it must be related to their smaller body size. Because the mortality is most uneven in juveniles, higher mortality doesn’t seem to be related to greater costs of breeding for females than for males. Female Magellanic penguins are about 17% lighter than males and have smaller bills. We think that, because of this size difference, females have a lower storage capacity, can't dive as deep, and can't take as wide a range of prey as males — all disadvantages when faced with limited and unpredictable food resources. These disadvantages hit juvenile females even harder, as juveniles are still learning how to forage and often travel further than adults do in the non-breeding season. Counts of carcasses in the species' migration range support starvation as the main cause of female-biased mortality; while oiled carcasses have a sex ratio of 1:1, females outnumber males in carcasses of starved birds. The only other possibility is that females are moving to other colonies at higher rates than are males, but this species is known to almost always return to its natal colony to breed. You suggest conservation efforts should look at protection of feeding grounds. What sort of measures do you think might be beneficial?

NG: Because penguins migrate such long distances over the non-breeding season, a mixture of tools (including no-take marine protected areas and traditional fisheries management tools, like catch limits) is likely to be needed. Although there is currently some spatial protection surrounding the species’ breeding colony, this protection does not extend to their migratory route. And, of course, everyone can contribute to penguin conservation by reducing their plastic waste, making more sustainable food choices, and reducing their.

What do you think might be causing pressure on food sources for the penguins?

NG: The two main threats to the food sources of this colony are climate change, which cause shifts in primary productivity and fish stocks, and fisheries. Fisheries compete with penguins for fish species such as and.

Have you noticed differences in behavior among the penguins as the ratios become increasingly skewed?

NG: In a separate study currently under review, we have shown that aggression between males of Magellanic penguins is higher when the sex ratio at the colony is more skewed towards males. We also showed that nearly all females at the colony breed but that, over time, fewer and fewer males find mates. Single male penguins sometimes intrude [on] nests of mated pairs and interrupt the incubation of eggs or feeding of chicks, leading to mortality. In some cases, they will even attack and kill chicks.

Your release mentioned sexing the penguins was problematic; how did you achieve it with confidence? NG: We have some methods of sexing penguins that we feel confident about — using genetics or measures of size around egg laying, for example. However, these methods are time intensive, so we have also developed visual cues for sex penguins (bill size, behavior, forehead shape). We looked at individuals that had been sexed using both a certain method (e.g. ) and visual methods to calculate how often we got it right based on visual cues alone and found that we have very high accuracy. We also used statistical tools to help to deal with uncertainty in the sex of some individuals.

How well can you extrapolate population trends at Punta Tombo based on the birds you tagged? More broadly, how well do you think this work represents global populations?

NG: It is likely that females have higher mortality than males at other colonies of this species and in other penguin species. We unfortunately do not have enough information from other colonies of this species (e.g. sex ratio and population trends) for an accurate global assessment of population trends. We do know that some colonies of the species are growing but that, at the global level, the species is still in decline.

In your opinion, for how much longer are penguin populations sustainable without intervention?

NG: This is nearly impossible to answer without more information on other colonies of the species, but the Punta Tombo colony is declining rapidly. We estimate declines of at least 43% since 1987 from our annual surveys at the colony, but it is likely that actual declines are higher because of the increasingly skewed sex ratio.

What are your next plans moving forward with your work?

NG: We are currently studying the sex ratio in Magellanic penguin chicks (at hatching and at fledging) to determine how this influences the sex ratio in adults. There are two priorities moving forward — 1) estimating sex ratio at other colonies of this species and determining whether females are more likely to leave Punta Tombo for other colonies than are males and 2) determining the mechanisms underlying lower female survival, e.g. by studying the foraging behavior and diet of males and females and the individual characteristics (like body size) that correlate with survival.


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Nancy Pelosi again elected Speaker as 116th U.S. Congress sworn in

January 4, 2019

Nancy Pelosi yesterday resumed the office of, being voted into the position by the incoming 116th United States Congress.

The new members of the House of Representatives, which include 235 Democrats and 199 Republicans, voted for Pelosi to serve as Speaker with 220 votes. Republican, who held the post of Majority Leader this past term, received 192. "I pledge that this Congress will be transparent, bipartisan and unifying; that we will seek to reach across the aisle in this Chamber and across the divisions across our nation," Pelosi told the public. Guests at the swearing in included Pelosi's grandchildren and such celebrities as fashion designer and  drummer.

President Donald Trump congratulated Pelosi, saying, "hopefully we're going to have a lot of things that we can get done together."

Pelosi has said her plans for the new term will begin with less controversial issues with which she could find common ground with Republicans, but Democrats also plan to address the current government shutdown promptly.

About a quarter of the U.S. federal government, 800,000 employees, is not in operation because President Trump and the previous Congress could not reach an agreement about the national budget. President Trump has said he will not approve a budget that does not allocate funding for with Mexico. Pelosi has proposed legislation that would fund the government through September. For the budget to pass, it must also be approved by the Senate, which has a Republican majority, and it must be signed by President Trump.

Within her own party, the choice of Pelosi was not uncontested. Some called for younger leadership. Altogether, fifteen Democrats defected. Pelosi had agreed to support some of her opponents' plans, such as term limits for individuals serving as Speaker.

The 116th U.S. Congress has the greatest number of women, 102, and people of color in the country's history and also has the youngest average age.

Nancy Pelosi became the first woman to serve as Speaker of the House in 2007 and held the post until 2011. The Speaker of the House is the third-highest ranking person in the U.S. Federal government and automatically assumes the presidency if the President and Vice President are both killed or incapacitated.

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I think this article is presentable in its current form. I'm going to let it sit for a bit. As always, I welcome anyone who wants to to make any kind of improvement, including hitting review if you feel it's ready. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:44, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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The Guardian lists the authors of the article as "Lauren Gambino, Ben Jacobs and David Smith in Washington."

At the end of the Guardian source article are the words "The Associated Press contributed to this story."

I'm concerned that the current source listing may make it look like Gambino, Jacobs and Smith work for the Associated Press rather than for the Guardian directly. But maybe (AP) is just how we say "and the Associated Press" on Wikinews. Thoughts? Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:08, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I read the previous formulation as a longer-winded way of saying the same thing, missing in the source the differentiation you mention. I was about to go correct it but I see PiZ has beaten me to it. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:37, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This problem doesn't usually come up because, I think, we don't usually mention wire services when they were only consulted, as here. --Pi zero (talk) 20:41, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

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On Thursday, former United States presidential candidate Senator Ted Cruz and fellow Republican Representative proposed to set lifetime limits for service in the Senate and House through amendment to the. It was co-sponsored by Senators Marco Rubio of Florida, of Utah, and  of Georgia, all Republicans.

Under current U.S. constitutional law, the president is limited to two terms of service but senators and representatives may serve for as many terms as their constituents wish to re-elect them. Under this proposal, senators would be limited to two terms and representatives to three.

Cruz, in remarks to, said, "For too long, members of Congress have abused their power and ignored the will of the American people[...] Term limits on members of Congress offer a solution to the brokenness we see in Washington, D.C. It is long past time for Congress to hold itself accountable. I urge my colleagues to submit this constitutional amendment to the states for speedy ratification."

If passed without measures specifically stipulating otherwise, this would limit Cruz himself to his current term.

Both President Trump and some Democrats, such as former Representative, have expressed favorable interest in Congressional term limits in the past.

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A fire yesterday afternoon killed five girls, all aged fifteen, at an the group was visiting to celebrate a birthday in, North Poland. Following the fire, which also seriously injured a man, authorities are performing checks on all the nation's escape rooms. Escape rooms see participants locked into a space and given clues and a time limit to figure out how to free themselves. The enterprises have grown in popularity in recent years with reportedly over 1,000 in Poland which are especially patronised by teens.

President Andrzej Duda said the victims were "joyful girls starting out in life [who] have had life torn away from them" in an "appalling tragedy" while Interior Minister wrote he had ordered fire safety checks on escape rooms across Poland by the State Fire Brigade. He tweeted, "I want to express my sympathy and regrets to the families of the victims of the fire". Duda also characterised the deaths as "crushing" and wrote "May God protect their parents and loved ones."

Tomasz Kubiak, a fire service spokesman, told Agence France-Presse the male victim is in intensive care with "severe burns". Police press officer Monika Kosiec stated police believe him to be aged 25. Kosiec revealed police have been unable to question him. State press agency has reported being told off the record all five deaths were caused by  poisoning.

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January 5, 2019

A road accident followed by a fire on a Florida highway near Gainesville on Thursday killed five children in a church bus and two truck drivers. One and a car broke through the center guardrail before colliding with other vehicles; around 50 gallons of diesel fuel, officials said, spilled and ignited. The children were all from, Louisiana. The Avoyelles House of Mercy, a church, had been travelling 700 miles from Louisiana to  and was within an hour of its destination. One truck driver was from, Florida, the other from Albuquerque, New Mexico.

The deceased were aged nine, ten, thirteen, two aged fourteen, 49, and 59. At least eight more people were hospitalized.

The accident sequence began, described, in the northbound lanes of  close to  when the initial collision between the car and truck occurred. After crossing the center divider, the out-of-control vehicles collided with the church bus and a second semi truck in the southbound lanes. The bus overturned, with occupants ejected; a southbound fifth vehicle was unable to prevent itself running through the debris. Reports indicate this vehicle may have struck victims lying on the roadway.

According to eyewitness Vinnie DeVita, "within probably 15 to 20 seconds of it all, it exploded. I mean, just a ball of flames." DeVita narrowly avoided being caught up in the accident. The Alachua Sheriff's Office tweeted the response "required all hands on deck." Authorities stated the road was damaged by the fire's ferocity. Emergency workers have indicated a probe is ongoing.

Another eyewitness, Nicole Towarek, described extensive tire marks and "insane" heat. official Troy Roberts said yesterday morning the road itself, which is straight in the vicinity, will be examined as part of investigations. He said "Guardrails can only take so much." The guardrail would be examined, Roberts said, to determine if it had performed as designed. The state had lanes closed last night as it worked to repair the damaged surface.

Also investigating is the Florida Highway Patrol, which is attempting to ascertain who, if anyone, is to blame. Meanwhile the National Transportation Safety Board, commonly involved in major highway accident probes, was absent. It is presently unable to operate due to a shutdown of much of the Federal government in a budget dispute; however, its website notes that its operations center is still accepting accident notifications without specifying if this resource is operating 24/7 as it usually does.


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I did my usual check for typos and didn't see any. Like none. The only thing is that the word "row" meaning "fight" isn't used in American English but that's so minor of a thing. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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Alas, while a few news outlets have reprinted the UW press release, none have composed their own original articles within our time window. Cute penguin content is fit for Wikipedia but not Wikinews. I've already hit es.wiki. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:23, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Might make a good candidate for a nice science interview. You've done some of those (as have I). May as well invite you to the table. If all three of us prepped questions we could get a really great piece.  BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:14, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible questions:
 * 1) What prompted your curiosity in Male Magellanic penguins? What other previous research about them have you done?
 * 2) How was the skewed sex ratio discovered? Whose research effort was used as a base for this study?
 * 3) What technology/equipment was involved/used in the study?
 * 4) What activities did the study involve? How did you tag the penguins? Who was involved and when, where did the tagging occur?
 * 5) How did you keep track of the tags? Where and when and how did you count which penguins survivd?
 * 6) How did you analyze the data from the tags?
 * 7) What was the study timeline? How long did it take?
 * 8) What were the roles of the people involved in the research? What activity was most time-consuming?
 * 9) Are there any further plans on exploring the species habitat and lifestyle?
 * 10) Do you have a photo of the species, of equipment, people, lab?

--Gryllida (talk) 06:58, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Most of this information is right there in the paper itself. Scientific papers always list the exact equipment and methods of analysis used so that other scientists can check their work if they want.  The papers also almost always list plans for further research.
 * If you decide to interview the scientists, I can help you find answers to some of these questions so you can focus a new list of questions. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm most likely going to reach out to one or more potential interviewees after work tomorrow, and see what happens. My usual process is, upon acceptance, to promise to prep and submit questions quickly thereafter; saves wasted effort on interviews that may not happen. In reality, though, academics are passionate about their work and most love nothing more than an opportunity to talk about it. So there's scope to be optimistic. Gryllida and I have both achieved featured articles in this way. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 23:21, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * (Webmail is being buggy, but have a request typed up, will send in the morning my time (UTC).) BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Scratch that, I'm awake late; email sent. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 02:18, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

 * I got a 'yes' back from Natasha Gownaris, I'll work on it tomorrow; feel free to chip in everybody! BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:00, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, I've sent them; fingers crossed this goes well. :) BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 00:33, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Responses received; Tasha also expressed an (unsolicited! :D ) interest in offering us some of her pictures. I've sent back asking if those could be licenced freely, so I'm going to hold back on revealing the details until I hear back on if that'd be okay or not. The answers are really great, though, I'm really looking forward to this going live. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:21, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This thing looks kabunga, BRS. These questions are so delightfully qualitatively different from the content of the paper.  I like how the interviewee gives subjective impressions of the nesting site.  They don't put that in the journal article, but our readers are likely to care about it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

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Tasha is one of the researchers on this, as indicated by the press release;

Her profile here links in turn to a CV (here for convenience) with a gmail address. Sent the following:

Hello Natasha,

A colleague of mine took a shine to your recent research looking into the skewed sex ratios of Magellanic penguins. After some discussion within the project, I've decided it would be fantastic if we could interview you. This would be for Wikinews, which is a sister to Wikipedia (a core difference being that we rigorously factcheck our material before it goes out the door).

I'm proposing a Q&A-style interview via email which would allow you to write up your responses, at leisure, and when it suits you. The aim would be to delve deep into your research and explore it, and hopefully bring it to a wider audience. I know we've been quite disappointed in how poorly the mainstream press has covered this one.

If that's something you'd be willing to do, let me know and the team will prep some interview questions.

Thanks for your time,

[me]

And got the following:

Hi Iain, That sound great to me! Thank you so much for reaching out.

Will look out for your interview e-mail.

Thank you, Tasha

As above, questions were prepared. I'd like to thank Gryllida for assistance with that; while the questions asked don't at first-glance appear to have much resemblance, they were greatly inspiring and deserve a healthy dose of credit. Whilst I'm doing thanks: It was also great to start this process with the core text prewritten, and done well at that. The questions were sent away. Tasha replied as follows:

Hi Ian, Sorry for the delay!

I hope these responses are helpful, happy to answer any other questions you have. Do you want any photos of mine for the article?

Thank you again for your interest!

Tasha

She sent her answers as an attachment, and I will attach a copy of that to the email chain when I forward to scoop. My response:

Hi Tasha,

Thank you so much! That was genuinely fascinating. No need to apologise; I'm glad you took the time to get your thoughts detailed so carefully.

Photos would be great! But there's a catch to that... We like to try and release things that can be published freely. Do you have any pictures you took yourself you'd be willing to donate? I believe the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International Licence is the current "go-to". The human-readable version is here: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ and that links to the full/technical/legal version.

I don't want to pressure you into it if you don't want to; we have access to a pretty impressive library of images we can use for file photos, but if you do want to, be sure to state clearly you're happy to release under that licence. That way I can securely store a copy of the release.

I'm astonished to say I have no further questions, which feels wrong somehow; take it as a compliment, that you have so fully answered all I wanted to know. Your passion for the subject really shines through.

Thanks once more for your time.

Iain

And, post-weekend and post negotiations with superiors, the delay has paid off:

Hi Iain, Sorry for the late reply!

Boss was most interested in me sending along a photo that was directly related to the work (not just a cute penguin photo...though those are my favorite). So here's one of a mated pair (which showcases how similar the two sexes look) and a few of two males fighting over a female, then eventually the "winner" leaving with the female. The fighting photos aren't the best quality. Obviously feel free to use something already in the commons if none of these work!

Thank you! Tasha

I'm going to upload those locally as a temporary measure so we can move forward. I'm sending Tasha an email which will link to the local versions, asking her to confirm those are hers and she releases them under the licence. When I have that, I can put them on Commons; this arrangement allows me both to move forward in the interim AND have a solid, brief, email exchange for Commons to archive in their OTRS system. I will naturally forward the interview exchange to scoop, as touched briefly upon above. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:30, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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This old revision contains a photo that, while it has bee replaced by Tasha's pics, might make a better choice for MakeLead? Probably it's clearer. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:51, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

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Who picked out that cover pic? It looks like they're holding hands. It's gorgeous. Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:20, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Heh. Makelead was defaulting to the first image in the article, which didn't seem to me to work very well at the smaller magnification of lead images, so I looked at the other images on the article and chose the one I thought would work best.  Glad you like it. :-)  --Pi zero (talk) 19:54, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I'd also suggested another alternative, above, although I'm glad to say Tasha's seems to work alright. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:17, 2 February 2019 (UTC)


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United States Donald Trump said on Friday he can and may declare a national, which he said would allow him to act without approval from Congress and allocate funding for the construction of a wall along the country's border with Mexico. The US government is currently because the president and Congress could not agree on a national budget. The President insists that the budget include funding for the wall, which was one of his campaign promises, but Congress has not passed his proposed budget. Trump said on Friday "I can do it [call a national emergency] if I want. I may do it." Trump also said that he would prefer to agree a solution with the opposition. He also said, "I never threaten anybody." He also claimed that the wall was a crucial part of America's border security. The, Mike Pence, said on Friday the United States is "in the midst of a crisis on our southern border." Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, said on Friday "We are committed to keeping our border safe. We can do that best when government is open. We made that clear to the president."

The, , said on Friday "We made a plea to the president once again: don't hold hundreds of thousands of federal workers hostage" and "So we told the president we needed the government open. He resisted."

and incoming chair of the   both yesterday questioned the President's power to do as he proposed. Schiff called it "a non-starter". Durbin said "I can just tell you, I don't know what he's basing this on, but he's faced so many lawsuits when he ignores the law and ignores tradition and precedent and just goes forward without any concern".

President Trump claims he would be okay if the impasse over the shutdown went on for "years." This lockdown started on December 22, last year. Some museums, the, and immigration courts have shut, with some people working in still-open services without pay. The website advises citizens to continue paying their federal taxes. Some services are still open, including medical services and. Federal courts are relying on non-government sources, like court fees, for funding.


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This is crazy long. I don't think we can avoid a long title entirely, but; how about US Senator Ted Cruz proposes US constitutional amendment limiting terms in both Congress houses? I can't make it shorter than that without mangling it. (Is the Constitution a proper noun?) BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:44, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Now that you mention it, with United States, yes, it's proper. --Pi zero (talk) 20:15, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps "US Senator Ted Crus proposes US Constitutional term limits on both Congressional houses"? --Pi zero (talk) 20:33, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Or "Senator Ted Cruz proposes US Congressional term limits"? Whether it is done by constitutional amendment or another method such as a Bill can be discussed in the article. Green Giant (talk) 21:08, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I like it. Also, we don't need to say "U.S." twice.  It's unlikely the reader won't know what country we mean by mentioning it just once. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:42, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

Minor error
as you’re reviewing, in Paragraph 6 it says "it would have to be ratified by at least two thirds of the country's 50 state legislatures." This is incorrect - it needs ratification by three-quarters of state legislatures per the ENWP. Green Giant (talk) 23:04, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Heh. Happens I was busy catching and fixing it, then read this; but, not to discourage giving a heads-up like this; thanks!  (It's actually in a source: 38 of 50; but to be sure I double-checked it, in the hardcopy US Constitution I keep handy.) --Pi zero (talk) 23:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
 * This was my error. Nice catch. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:07, 7 January 2019 (UTC)


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Explain who "Trump" is, and what country we're talking about. Don't call the country "America" in Wikinews's own voice; call it the US, the U.S., the United States, less commonly the USA or United States of America. --Pi zero (talk) 22:11, 5 January 2019 (UTC) Done?! Qwerty number1 (talk) 22:15, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * We require three paragraphs minimum and an overall content equal to three mid-size paragraphs. We don't count single-sentence paragraphs; this article consists solely of six single sentence paragraphs. I'm not convinced it's long enough to be equal to three mid-size paragraphs; in terms of having at least three paragraphs total, it effectively has none. Surely, there's more details than this you can add. Background, reaction, all that stuff. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:17, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Review of revision 4456836 [Not ready]
Done, is it a pass now? Qwerty number1 (talk) 14:31, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Might be. If nobody beats me to it I will review in a few hours. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 15:16, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Possible update tonight
I see review is under way, but if it does not pass, we may be able to do a refresh. Ol' Tribblenoggin is planning an address about the border tonight: NY Times Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

Rename: "President [Donald] Trump" instead of "Trump" post-archive
flag 103.254.128.86 (talk) 15:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Has consensus changed? Traditionally, one would expect a reader to understand who Trump was from a headline, with suitable detail in the lede. This was discussed and agreed during Obama's tenure. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 17:33, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Who the fuck is Trump? Which Trump is being discussed?  Or why is it worth the time?  Thing is, which person: that decides a lot of things.  Consider: "Modi visits Pakistan".  Which Modi?  If Narendra Modi, current PM of India, that might be of interest for a lot of people.  Turns out the everyday Joe like person "Viral Modi" visits Pakistan (and somehow that is newsworthy), the headline is blatantly misleading.  Things get messier when two fairly notable people share the last name: "Irani joins Congress" would clearly be a clickbait.  Just because things were done in one way in the past does not mean it can not be improved now. •–•  17:43, 8 January 2019 (UTC)


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Catalonia apartment block fire kills three, injures sixteen

January 7, 2019 An apartment block caught fire on Saturday morning in, a Catalonian city around ten from Barcelona. The blaze killed three, including a 92-year-old woman, and injured sixteen, including a baby.

The fire service indicated on Twitter the baby girl was critically ill, while two adults were seriously injured. Local authorities indicated the most seriously injured adults escaped alive by leaping from windows to flee the ten-storey building. As of yesterday, no cause had yet been released for the fire by authorities in the Mediterranean coastal town.

Firefighters put the fire out on Saturday and were subsequently pictured searching the charred apartments. Windows were broken out on multiple floors, with soot coating the outside of the structure.

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New Wikimedia password policy and requirements
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These new requirements will apply to new accounts and privileged accounts. New accounts will be required to create a password with a minimum length of 8 characters. Privileged accounts will be prompted to update their password to one that is at least 10 characters in length.

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Indigenous journalism
https://www.nationalobserver.com/2018/12/11/indigenous-journalists-talk-about-past-present-and-future-journalism —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Invitation from Wiki Loves Love 2019

Love is an important subject for humanity and it is expressed in different cultures and regions in different ways across the world through different gestures, ceremonies, festivals and to document expression of this rich and beautiful emotion, we need your help so we can share and spread the depth of cultures that each region has, the best of how people of that region, celebrate love.

Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an international photography competition of Wikimedia Commons with the subject love testimonials happening in the month of February.

The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects.

The theme of 2019 iteration is Celebrations, Festivals, Ceremonies and rituals of love.

Sign up your affiliate or individually at Participants page.

To know more about the contest, check out our Commons Page and FAQs

There are several prizes to grab. Hope to see you spreading love this February with Wiki Loves Love!

Kind regards,

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Two things. First, the US presidency has become way too powerful and that's a much bigger problem just atm. Second, if you want to fix something about the US Congress, term limits are treating the symptom rather than the disease (and treating it badly, as they would simply guarantee that people in those jobs would lack experience). If you want to fix something, how about changing the way Representatives are elected, to eliminate first-past-the-post and single-member-district.


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Wikinews investigates disappearance of Indonesian cargo ship Namse Bangdzod

January 10, 2019

In late December, Indonesian cargo ship Namse Bangdzod vanished in local waters. The tanker, around 1,150 and loaded with crude, had over ten crewmembers. Wikinews examined data and contacted experts and local authorities in an effort to establish further details.

The exact date of disappearance is unclear, with industry publications reporting either December 27 or December 28. Crew totals are also unclear, with both eleven and twelve reported by industry sources while  reports a captain and eleven other crew. Wikinews has contacted the Command and Control Centre of the seeking to clarify, among other things, the date of the disappearance and is awaiting a response. Wikinews is also awaiting responses from both the Coast Guard and the National Search and Rescue Agency detailing the efforts being made to find the ship, which was last known to be in the Java Sea. MV Namse Bangdzod sailed with cargo from, a port town on a river in Borneo; it was last bound for Jakarta. It is owned and operated by Indonesian companies and also registered in Indonesia. The 75 (250 ) ship was built in 1993 in Japan.

Ships broadcast their position and other information via both the (AIS) and the  (LRIT) system. AIS is a ship-to-ship safety system, but can also be detected from further afield by satellites. 's AIS tracking database shows a reestablishment of AIS contact by MV Namse Bangdzod on January 6, with a pattern described by Marine Bulletin as "rather hectic and kind of confused". In addition to asking local authorities, Wikinews sought expert input on the AIS data.

Dr. Tristan Smith of, a shipping researcher with expert experience interpreting AIS results, explained to Wikinews that crews might turn their AIS transponders off on purpose for security reasons, such as "in certain sea areas where piracy is a risk" in order to "avoid attracting unwanted attention. This can involve them being turned off for several days at a time." Doug Miller of Milltech Marine, a firm specialising in AIS, told our correspondent an AIS transponder will broadcast automatically provided it has power and antennae, even if the crew abandoned the vessel. Baslan Damang, a security official from the port of departure, on Tuesday told The Jakarta Post radio broadcasts were being used to alert other traffic such as fishing vessels to look out for MV Namse Bangdzod. He added authorities "are still waiting for updates on the tanker's condition, so please refrain from speculating that it had been hijacked". As of yesterday, no oil slicks or other evidence of accidents have been found along the scheduled route the vessel was due to take. A major search continues.

Miller and Smith both acknowledged faults with the AIS system on-board as possible explanations, with Miller describing issues with the signal between the transponder and the satellite receiving it as one potential scenario for intermittent data reception. He too suggested a hypothetical scenario, in which "the AIS equipment has been tampered with or has been turned off for some of the time — either intentionally or accidentally or due to a power malfunction." Smith called the disappearance an "interesting" case; Miller said "It is a little hard to definitively say what's going on". Miller explained that while transponders generally transmit every ten seconds "even if the transponder is transmitting there is no guarantee that other vessels or MarineTraffic can see it". "It could also be a power supply issue or faulty transponder", said Smith. Smith told Wikinews "There are also some operations done on ships containing hazardous cargoes[...] where all risks of sparking/arcs need to be removed and radio transmitting equipment is sometimes turned off for this reason." He said this applied to product tankers, but the long duration of AIS downtime would in this instance be unusual if this is the reason. Smith had one more theory: Namse Bangdzod could be the victim of identity theft, with a second vessel conducting manoeuvres it wished to conceal while falsely transmitting information identifying itself as Namse Bangdzod. Smith told Wikinews this might happen in cases of illegal fishing. He stated "In this scenario, it would normally be expected that both the legal and illegal transmission would be received but depending on how Marine Traffic handle this, it's possible the two signals could be confused." Smith drew attention to LRIT as another method for personnel to find the tanker. Unlike AIS, which is a safety and tracking system, LRIT is used for maritime security by seagoing nations. Created under the auspices of the, LRIT allows states to examine data about ships bearing their flag, visiting their ports, or in or near their waters.

Like all vessels exceeding 300 tons, Namse Bangdzod is required to transmit LRIT data. Search and rescue bodies can also access this information; Smith told Wikinews he believed this would include foreign navies with ships in the Java Sea. Singapore, India, and Australia have in the past conducted emergency searches of the Java Sea: All three nations offered military assistance after Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501 vanished in December 2014.

Marine Traffic's website's most recently publicly available AIS result, as of Tuesday, showed the ship underway a few miles off Jakarta. VesselFinder listed no AIS results for the last month. Vessel Tracker's database had no sighting of the ship within the last 59 days on Tuesday; the website noted the AIS signal received from Jakarta but declared the ship was not actually there. Maritime Connector has an entry for the ship in its database but has no location data available.

Local authorities, according to Maritime Bulletin, have noted other unusual AIS data. The website yesterday suggested piracy, perhaps to obtain the valuable cargo, is now the most prominent theory. The Indonesian Palm Oil Producers Association reports a value of US$473.60 per metric ton of crude palm oil as of November 2018, with the price decreasing that month. "Its plausible that an explanation [why] the AIS transponder is not transmitting is that it had been turned off by pirates who wanted to hamper the efforts of a rescue mission" Smith told Wikinews yesterday.

Yesterday the Search and Rescue Agency told The Jakarta Post it was intending to end its search on the basis of piracy, which is outside its remit; the paper also spoke to the, who told it this was as-yet uncomfirmed and noted no ransom has been sought and the ship vanished from an area without previous piracy problems. Four Navy ships assisted by aircraft are searching. "We will continue searching until we find it," 1st Fleet Command's Navy Information Agency head Arba Agung told The Jakarta Post, which also today reported location data falsely showing the ship in Sunda Kelapa Port after its inaccurate position in was recorded.


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BASARNAS
BASARNAS, which is the acronym for the search and rescue agency, have a contact email, basarnas@basarnas.gov.id, on their website. I sent the following:

Hello,

Apologies for writing in English. I am working on a report about missing tanker Namse Bangdzod. Can you confirm please some information for me?

Is the ship still missing?

What resources are you using to search? (For example, are you searching the sea with your own ships and planes or Navy ships etc)

A shipping industry news website reports that automatic identification system data has been reported by Marinetraffic.com as coming from this ship on January 6 with an unusual route. Are you aware of this?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

[myself]

Will forward the original message and any replies to scoop. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:27, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Coastguard
This is a bit messy. The coastguard's website isn't actually operational. Like, I can't get it to load. Fortunately, Google can, or at least they did recently. They supply, at the very bottom, two contact email addresses. I chose to use the puskodal@ address. Here is a useful dictionary on terms that might be useful, in a security context, in understanding Indonesian topics. It lists the meaning of puskodal as shorthand for an Indonesian phrase translatable as command and control centre. I sent this message to them:

Hello,

Apologies for writing in English. I am working on a report about missing tanker Namse Bangdzod. Can you confirm please some information for me?

Is the ship still missing?

What resources are you using to search? (For example, are you searching the sea with your own ships and planes or Navy ships etc)

When was the ship first reported missing?

A shipping industry news website reports that automatic identification system data has been reported by Marinetraffic.com as coming from this ship on January 6 with an unusual route. Are you aware of this?

Thank you for any help you can give me.

[Me]

Once again, will send the original to scoop and any replies will also go there. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:27, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Dr. Tristan Smith
Dr. Smith's expertise on AIS should be readily apparent by the simple fact he is an author of "Assessment of shipping’s efficiency using satellite AIS data" for The International Council on Clean Transportation. Here is his University College London profile. I sent him this:

Dear Dr Smith,

I am working on a report about the tanker Namse Bangdzod, which vanished Dec 27th with a crew of 12 in Indonesian waters. An industry publication has indicated AIS data shown on Marine Traffic's website has the vessel reestablishing AIS uplink on Jan 6. The report notes the track is erratic.

I was wondering if you can think of reasons this might be? I was wondering if this might be an indication the ship is drifting, or even simply that the AIS transmitter is malfunctioning.

I appreciate any insight you may be able to offer.

[Me]

I quickly got back the following thoughtful and detailed response:

Dear Iain,

Thanks, interesting story - just had a quick look.

AIS transponders can be turned on/off at the crew’s discretion if its operation is deemed to be a safety risk. This means, for example, that in certain sea areas where piracy is a risk (e.g. Somalia, some parts of West Africa etc) transponders are turned off for certain periods of navigation to avoid attracting unwanted attention. This can involve them being turned off for several days at a time.

There are also some operations done on ships containing hazardous cargoes (which include product tankers), where all risks of sparking/arcs need to be removed and radio transmitting equipment is sometimes turned off for this reason. It would be unlikely that the duration of the AIS being switched off would last this long.

It could also be a power supply issue or faulty transponder.

And its also possible that the transponder has been ’spoofed’ in some way. A ship using a VHF set with an illegal but identical MMSI (callsign) could be transmitting and giving the impression that it was a different ship in order to try and undertake other activity (e.g. illegal fishing). In this scenario, it would normally be expected that both the legal and illegal transmission would be received but depending on how Marine Traffic handle this, its possible the two signals could be confused.

Besides AIS, ships broadcast their position at 6 hourly intervals on LRIT (Long Range Information and Tracking). This system is independent of AIS and is data collected by the country in which the ship is registered (flagged). The port/safety authority will presumably already be enquiring of the flag on this subject, but it tight be worth checking.

Hope that’s of some use.

Tristan

Now, I'd never heard of LRIT. Well, I probably have, but I don't ever remember hearing of it. That sent me scrambling to grok the subject. I came across this from Safety4Sea. It explains that LRIT is a security system set up by the International Maritime Organisation to enable nations to quickly request and receive basic intelligence on any ships in their area to establish if they present a threat. It also notes "The LRIT system is mandatory for all passenger ships, high speed craft, mobile offshore drilling units and cargo ships of over 300 gross tonnes, and has been in force since July 2009."

So, I sent Tristan back the following:

Hello Tristan,

Thanks for your swift and detailed reply. I'm UK-based as well so I understand this may not have been the most convenient of times.

The LRIT data is an interesting point, one I was not aware of (or if I ever was, long forgotten). From a quick look it seems to be security based; I assume I'd be correct that in thinking emergency situations are something of an exception? (So, for example, a Singaporean or Australian navy ship that might happen to be in the vicinity could readily access this vessel's LRIT data?)

Thanks,

Iain

Tristan quickly responded:

Hi Iain, no problem, the working day knows no borders.

Yes, LRIT should be accessible to navies that have an SAR function I think: http://www.imo.org/en/ourwork/safety/navigation/pages/lrit.aspx

Tristan

SAR, of course, being the acronym for search and rescue. The link goes right to the IMO's page. It discusses "the rights and obligations of[...] Search and rescue services to receive LRIT information" and notes the regulations under which these are enshrined. Of note: The regulations date back to 1974. Regulations tend to be modified routinely in both domestic and international law without updating the year appended to the end unless they are really drastically rewritten from scratch, so this in no way conflicts with the 2009 date above. The same regulations require ships to transmit. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC) I since exchanged a couple more emails with this researcher. The next one I sent I specifically noted I wasn't seeking comment, just wishing to thank him again and update him on what I had gleaned. He responded, mentioning something I hoped to use. Since I had expressly said I wasn't seeking comment, I viewed this as private embargoed correspondence but nonetheless asked if he would go on the record. He would not, which is entirely reasonable (it was an offhand remark made in private correspondence, after all, never intended to be thoughtful expert comment). He did, however, offer the following suggested quote to go on the record: “Its plausible that an explanation that the AIS transponder is not transmitting is that it had been turned off by pirates who wanted to hamper the efforts of a rescue mission”. As ever, the updated email chain is imminently going to scoop. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Nationality of ownership
Sources list the owner and operator as PT Petronusa Niaga Energy and PT Surabaya Shipping Lines, respectively. Bloomberg profile for Petronusa Niaga has only one piece of info: this it is Indonesian. FourSquare actually has a checkin location of the exact street address for Surabaya Shipping Lines; it is, as you might expect, in Surabaya. As a sanity check, PT is the approximate Indonesian equivalent to GmbH, or Ltd, or Sarl. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 18:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Milltech Marine
Milltech Marine is a maritime consultancy agency. They seem to use the tagline "your AIS experts" and sell/advertise AIS gear on their website. I used their contact form to submit this:

Hello,

I am working on a report about the missing ship Namse Bangdzod. The vessel and 12 crewmembers have been missing since Dec 27th in Indonesian waters. An industry publication notes marinetraffic.com displays a reestablishment of AIS data being received on Jan 6, but the track is erratic and unusual.

Would you be willing to briefly comment on reasons this might be? I can think of two but I could be quite wrong:

The AIS data is faulty;

The ship is drifting uncontrolled.

I thank you in advance for your valuable time.

[Me]

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Hi Iain, thanks for contacting us.

It is a little hard to definitively say what's going on but there are a few other considerations:

1. Beyond a certain range (about 20-30 miles from a shore station), the AIS transmission is no longer picked up by a shore station and is then picked up by a satellite. To get an up to date view of the satellite based track you would need a MarineTraffic subscription for that vessel.

2. Even with a subscription, there might be issues with the satellites picking up the signal consistently. There are a lot of factors that could have an impact such as the AIS equipment, the quality and placement of the AIS/VHF and GPS antennas, interference form other equipment etc.

3. As you mentioned the AIS equipment could be malfunctioning. For example, if the GPS data is not present the transponder will not transmit since it doesn't know where it is.

4. Another possibility is the AIS equipment has been tampered with or has been turned off for some of the time - either intentionally or accidentally or due to a power malfunction.

Since AIS is automatic, it will function as long as it has power and the antennas and sensors are in place. For example, even if the crew abandoned ship the AIS system would continue to send regular transmissions as long as there is power and antenna connections. As you probably know, Class A transponders send out position information every 10 seconds when underway so other vessels within 20-30 miles should see a regular track that follows the ship's real course. But even if the transponder is transmitting there is no guarantee that other vessels or MarineTraffic can see it given the possibilities above. I hope that helps.

Doug Miller Milltech Marine

I will be forwarding supporting correspondence to scoop, naturally. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:12, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Shipping databases
Here is the Marine Traffic page for the ship under examination. The last publically available location (for well over $100/month you can get newer results) at time of writing this comment was listed as: Position Received: 22 hours, 47 minutes ago (2019-01-07 21:09 (UTC)) Latitude / Longitude: -5.757743° / 106.8648°. It states the vessel was moving at 3.9knots at that time. A helpful little link to a 'live' map is included: here, which shows it's position as a few miles from Jakarta. VesselFinder declares "The NAMSE BANGDZOD's port of calls and sailing schedule for the past months are listed below as detected by our live AIS ship tracking system." There's nothing there to be seen. Vessel Tracker says the ship was "last seen" 59 days ago. It also has a news sidebar for the ship: "The tanker was already on Jakarta anchorage according to the [AIS] track but in fact wasn’t." Damn, but this is weird. Maritime Connector gives a place of construction (attained via Grosstonnage.com) of Japan. It says "Information about this ship position is not available." BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 20:15, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The databases all give a similar weight, slightly divergent from the sources. I'm going with the database weight; the news orgs say nothing of how they got their info, which is usually from shipping databases anyway. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 21:36, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Sampit is in Borneo
Using a simple and obvious yet underutilised primary source: a map. Here is Sampit on its riverbank; zoom out with the little +/- buttons on the top left corner, and you will discover it resides in Borneo. BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:25, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Related news: Courtesy note to reviewer
"Singapore, India, and Australia have in the past conducted emergency searches of the Java Sea: All three nations offered military assistance after Indonesia AirAsia Flight 8501 vanished in December 2014."

These two sentences (and nothing else) are sourced to the related article (A FA, no less). BRS (Talk)   (Contribs) 19:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)


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