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Talk:German beer company Eichbaum issues public apology for printing Saudi Arabian flag on beer bottle caps

Concerns
In the second paragraph, who are the people on social media? Are they authority figures? Are they religious scholars? Are they just random people on Twitter or what? If so, how were they chosen and why is their opinion significant? I linked the policy in the text next to they concerning sentences. --SVTCobra 19:13, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * People on social media are just the people. Do we say who participated in "March against abortion" in Ireland? I have mentioned alcohol is considered haraam, and banned in KSA, and what the shahada means, and the "opinions" which really matters, the embassy's is mentioned in the article -- when something is condemned on the internet, everybody is treated equally online by these companies for maintaining their brand, and it is because of those unnamed common people that company decided to issue a public apology. Again, when people protesting in the US held banners saying "Trump not my president", did we answer who they were? •–• 19:30, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The only difference is, the first three sentences of that paragraph literally tells: alcohol is against Islamic belief, but again, saying in Wikinews' words may be frowned upon -- sometimes even the obvious needs to be mentioned, and that too, in a way that it does not sound or feel dumbed down. •–• 19:40, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Problematic. There are enough people on the internet that almost anything one can imagine is being said by someone.  We can't take something out of our own voice by ascribing it to someone anonymous.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:53, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't read the sources. Can it be attributed? Like, "According to XYZ News, thousands of people tweeted at the brewery ..." or "A hashtag was started that reached trending on Twitter". There needs to be something. Right now, it is a textbook example of what the policy does not allow. --SVTCobra 20:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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Interestingly, another submission from the same author has exactly the correct way of dealing with this matter of people on social media as seen in Sudanese teenager sentenced to death for killing husband while raping her. --SVTCobra 04:22, 14 May 2018 (UTC)


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Sudanese teenager sentenced to death for killing husband while raping her

May 13, 2018 On Thursday, a court in, Sudan, confirmed death penalty for a nineteen-year-old woman, who was previously found guilty of premeditated murder of her husband. Hussein, who was married to Abdulrahman Hammad at the age of sixteen, said she stabbed her husband in during a second rape. Hammad's family declined money for Hammad's killing, and the shari'a court announced death by hanging.

Hussein said she was married at the age of sixteen against her will, after which she took shelter at her aunt's home for three years. According to reports, when Hussein was nineteen, she returned home to visit but her father sent her to her in-laws. She refused to have sex with Hammad and she said she was raped six days later by her husband with assistance from Hammad's relatives. She stabbed Hammad the next day when he tried to rape her again. According to Amnesty International, Noura Hussein's father handed her to police after she fled to her home after stabbing Hammad.

Sudan is a Muslim-majority country governed by shari'a law. and are not illegal in Sudan. The legal age for girls to get married is the age of ten with the consent of guardians. Noura Hussein said the conviction for murder was "shocking moment" but said she knew she would be executed. "It was a shocking moment when the judge convicted me with murder. I knew then that I [would] be executed, leaving my dreams unfulfilled", the teenager said.

After the confirmation, Hussein's lawyers were given fifteen days to appeal against it. Afrika Youth Movement's activist Eldin Salah, who attended the court hearing said, "Noura's lawyers say they plan to appeal against the decision, but we also need strong international support from organizations such as the African Union, the United Nations and the European Union to support her." An online petition campaign for Noura Hussein's defence was launched on and, and #JusticeForNoura hashtags were trending on Twitter.

Hussein was raped six days after she was with her husband. According to Amnesty International, Noura Hussein was first raped on May 2, 2017, when her husband's cousins restrained her while Hammad was raping her. Next day, when Hammad tried to rape her again, Hussein stabbed him with a knife in self-defence. Hussein has been in jail since May 2017. The July 2017 ruling pronounced it as "intentional murder".

Equality Now said they were writing a mercy plea to the Sudanese president Omar al-Bashir. Equality Now's Global Director Yasmeen Hassan said, "Noura is a victim, not a criminal, and should be treated as such."


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Hawaii's Kīlauea volcano releases ash plumes to 30,000 feet, prompting aviation alerts

May 20, 2018

On Thursday morning, before dawn, Hawaii's  erupted again, sending up an ash plume to an altitude of 30,000  (9,100 ). This follows an earlier eruption Tuesday afternoon, after which authorities issued an aviation alert and to extend an advisory for residents. The current eruption event began May 3 and has caused thousands of people to evacuate their homes.

Robert Hughes, whose Aloha Junction Bed and Breakfast, is only 1.5 miles from the volcano's crater described the day as otherwise "a nice rainy day" and reportedly some nearby residents slept through the 4:00AM eruption (1400 ).

Hawaii is one of the United States and an in the Pacific Ocean. Kīlauea is located on the island of Hawaii, generally called the The 2018 eruptions at Kīlauea first started on May 3. Since then, about 20 have opened, cracking concrete and giving off steam, lava and toxic gases. The (HVO) issued a "notice for aviation" to alert pilots of dangerous conditions. "We're observing more or less continuous emission of ash now with intermittent, more energetic ash bursts or plumes," said Steve Brantley of the HVO. The (USGS) also issued a "red alert" which means "major volcanic activity is imminent, underway or suspected with hazardous conditions both on the ground and in the air."

The extended its advisory about ash-fall as winds spread the ash and cause elevated risk of respiratory problems for residents. By mid-morning on Thursday, the warning ran until midday (12:00 local, 2200 UTC).

Monday, authorities reported fissures throwing and boulders as far as 500 feet (about 150 meters). The volcanic eruption has destroyed dozens of buildings, and necessitated the evacuation of more than 2000 people.

The initial eruption was accompanied by a magnitude-6.9 earthquake and followed by many smaller quakes thereafter. Dozens of homes and other buildings, as well as roads, have been destroyed. However, the Hawaii Civil Defense Agency sought to calm public worries about a on Tuesday, stating: "according to the [HVO] there is no geologic evidence for an tsunami-generating earthquake at this time. Any such event is extremely unlikely."

The lava released so far has been slow and relatively cool, left over from an earlier event in the 1950s, but there were concerns that fresh, fast-moving lava may be right behind. Although the current eruption event began May 3, technically the volcano hasn't stopped erupting since 1983.


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It is not the best headline, how about "Sudanese teenager sentenced to death for killing husband in self-defence after marital rape"? or something better? •–• 21:12, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * On IRC, pizero suggested "Sudanese teenager sentenced to death for killing husband in self-defence after rape". I would still like to see "marital" in the headline, but seems redundant. •–• 21:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I might drop the "self-defence" from title. We may think of it as a universal thing, but obviously not under Sudanese law. --SVTCobra 21:21, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * that can be used, inside single quote, but I bet it would be frowned upon; as I realised last night that trying to be too correct, even neutrally, is not always welcomed. I guess I would have frowned upon a headline with self-defence in single quotes, but well, it is your call now. (But if I am not wrong, self-defence is independent of sovereign boundaries; and is related to HR; but I don’t want to create and delay at 3 in the morning. •–• 21:31, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am having some problems with the legal details. If I give a fail with a list, can you fix it quickly? --SVTCobra 21:47, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * what details? (This is why we need IM for fixing things quickly.) but yes, I am here. •–• 21:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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Oh, and the missing part of the story of how she went from aunt's back to husband after the 3 years. --SVTCobra 22:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Missing part is addressed in the lede, and later in the body, the second point can be fixed by rewording, the conviction last year was for "intentional murder", this time it was for "premeditated murder" -- Reuters mentioned it, the third point is how penalty for murder is, in shari'a -- the blood money, as it is called. •–• 22:04, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, she was safe at aunt's. But she was returned to husband's house. It's a two-step story, I read the sources, but can"t write it for you. I know, the blood money bit, but it's not in the article. --SVTCobra 22:11, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I know the complexity involved -- others are making claims about what happened and what not. I don't want to turn it into quote-farm. I hope the newer version addresses the concern. •–• 22:14, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * the family decided death, and the judge only confirmed 'yes, ok' ... and her own family is so complicit both in putting her back with husband and giving her to police after the kill. --SVTCobra 22:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Sure it did. Only if I had decided to write it yesterday, instead of wasting time behind being neutrally too correct to be polite and then engaging my time behind it, thanks for published it. •–• 23:16, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Aunt/Aunty/Auntie
I understand there may be differences of opinion on this spelling but the matter should be discussed calmly on the talkpage by all concerned. Looking through the sources, I note that, of the two sources that use this word, both The Guardian and CNN use "aunt", whilst AlJazeera and Reuters use "relative" and the others don't mention this element of the story. My own opinion is that "aunty" and "auntie" are both informal spellings per Oxford and Cambridge, so it would be preferable to use "aunt". An analogy would be using "her dad sent her" instead of "her father sent her" in the second paragraph. Your thoughts? Green Giant (talk) 08:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Informal spelling is not a typo. And changing it is a substantial change for the article after 24-hours duration. And as I have mentioned earlier, “aunty” is the most widely used spelling in India, and it is/was even taught in the school. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 08:20, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have not seen widespread use of "aunty" in Indian news. I do see a lot of "aunt" as in this example: link. --SVTCobra 09:16, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Do me a favour and never link the Toiletpaper of India -- there are other websites which you can use -- ToI is a joke, one of the worst news orgs, which are often factually incorrect, and some of their reporters have no journalistic ethics or even common sense. In any case, here is a link •–• 09:41, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That appears to be a lighthearted article calling a certain group of cricket fans "aunties" not referring to a family relative. Here is India Today using "aunt" in a serious article. link Cheers, --SVTCobra 09:47, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Please do not restart a nonsensical edit war over a single letter. --SVTCobra 17:12, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Stop changing content 24 hours post-publication -- you are violating official policy by doing that. •–• 17:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Listen, this amounts to a typo. It is not substantive. It is one letter. Furthermore, using an informal diminutive adds the complication that the article could be talking about someone who is not actually a relative. Just look at the usage notes. --SVTCobra 18:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

That was never a typing mistake. Do you treat all "informal words" as spelling mistake? 103.254.128.130 (talk) 18:48, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you subvert all reviews by changing the reviewers edits? --SVTCobra 18:54, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with SVTCobra. The two sources, highlighted above, use "aunt" and the dictionaries say "aunt" is the formal version. I disagree with Indian English having anything to do with this because Sudan is a separate country, which if anything was influenced by British English. Let's leave it at "aunt". Green Giant (talk) 19:22, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Author's preference of the sub-dialect; not the country in question. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 19:32, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree with 103.254 here, as far as choice of dialect is concerned. Sudan should not be an influence. But it has not been shown that "aunty" is anything but informal, except for the anecdotal "I was taught that word in school". Well, I learned to spell many informal words in school, too. I have found multiple articles authored in India which use "aunt" when dealing with serious matters. I would also like to point out that I did not change phrases like "self-defence" which is not the spelling in my own particular dialect. --SVTCobra 19:44, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


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Netta wins Eurovision Song Contest for Israel

May 15, 2018 On Saturday, Israel won its fourth victory, first since 1998, at the, held at Lisbon's in Portugal. 's song  won 529 points from public and professional judges. Cyprus and Austria finished second and third respectively with 436 and 342 points. Out of 43 countries participating this time, 26 countries including hosts Portugal and the Big Five — France, Germany, Italy, Spain and the United Kingdom — competed in the finals. The competition began on May 8. Spain and United Kingdom finished in the bottom five while the hosts and last year's winners, Portugal, ended up at the bottom of the vote ranking; collecting respectively 61, 48, and 39 points.

Israel won the first semi-final round with 283 points. The 25-year-old Netta won the competition earlier this year to represent the country in this contest. Netta performed Toy, written by and Stav Beger, with a Chicken Dance and chicken noises. With a lot of involved, the song lyrics included, "I'm not your toy; you stupid boy". Her performance included 112, Japanese beckoning cats used as lucky charms, which were placed in two shelves.

Apart from the Japanese Maneki-neko dolls, Netta wore a kimono; a Japanese dress, styled her hair in two buns as well as referenced, a Japanese anime and video game, in her song, which led to some people including Portuguese writer Joana Ramiro to point out cultural appropriations in her performance. "Can I, however, ask if anyone here has already commented on the quite shocking Japanese cultural bastardisation-appropriation going on in Netta's song?", Ramiro tweeted.

Shortly after the contest began, last year's winner called Toy "a horrible song". In an interview with Wiwibloggs, Sobral said, "YouTube thought I would like the Israeli song. I opened it and a horrible song came out of it." After winning the contest in Ukraine last year, Sobral had said, "We live in a world of disposable music; fast food music without any content. I think this could be a victory for music with people who make music that actually means something [...] Music is not fireworks; music is feeling. So let’s try to change this and bring music back." Toy's performance used strobe lighting and quirky noises.

After Netta was declared the winner, she said, "Thank you so much for choosing different. Thank you so much for accepting differences between us. Thank you for celebrating diversity. Thank you. I love my country. Next year in Jerusalem." Previously, Israel won the contest in 1978 and 1979, and 1998.

UK's artist, who performed Storm, was interrupted in her performance when a stage invader snatched her microphone. UK was given another chance to perform, but SuRie declined after discussing with her team. SuRie said, "We had that conversation, but I was really proud of that performance." "You don't get to do the 100 sprint at the Olympics again because your shoelace is untied or something. You had that one shot and that was my moment, and we didn't need to repeat that [...] We had those conversations backstage, I saw the reaction and faces of my team, who were very proud of the recovery and the power of that, and we didn't need to go again", the British singer added.

As the winner of this edition of the competition, Israel is to host next year's competition. Last year, then 27-year-old Salvador Sobral won the competition, receiving 758 points for the song , a ballad written by his sister.

For the preparations of next year's contest, Israeli Deputy Health Minister wrote a letter to Culture and Sport Minister  asking shabbat, the Jewish holy day to rest, not to be violated. In the letter, he wrote, "In the name of hundreds of thousands of Jewish citizens from all the populations and communities for whom Shabbat observance is close to their hearts, I appeal to you, already at this early stage, before production and all the other details of the event has begun, to be strict [in ensuring] that this matter does not harm the holiness of Shabbat and to work in every way to prevent the desecration of Shabbat, God forbid, as the law and the status quo requires". Last year, he submitted resignation after Jewish workers were made to undertake railway work on shabbat. That time, both Israeli welfare minister and Israeli transportation minister  expressed potential threat to passengers if the railway work was postponed.


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Threats to humans
It maybe interesting to talk about the sulfer-dioxide in the air which is caustic to humans. Also how is FEMA, Red Cross, and others are working in the area. When you take a story and bring it down to the human level it is far more effective. AZOperator (talk) 22:57, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I guess it is dangerous to a lot of animals, so better say "caustic to many animals, including Humans". •–• 22:59, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, forgetting the other in "humans and OTHER animals" is a slight peeve of mine. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:59, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The biological definition of the word refers to all members of the kingdom Animalia, whereas in colloquial use, animal often refers to non-human animals. --SVTCobra 05:02, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * something may or may not be lethal for every animal. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 07:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, SVT, that's why I don't make a habit of objecting when other people use it that way. I don't do it myself, though. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:22, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Headline
It bothers me that, although the content has been updated, the headline hasn't needed updating because it isn't specific enough to distinguish the shifts in focus. Though we also don't like to build into our headlines numbers that are likely to increase (such as precise death tolls from disasters). --Pi zero (talk) 17:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Then change it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 03:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That is something the author should be doing. They need to practice it and improvise. A reviewer can do it once in a while. But on a regular basis, it is not reviewer’s task. Because the reviewer does not know what the focus is about. The author knows it, and they should make sure it is reflected in the article. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 03:45, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4406426 [Not ready]
I personally would like to hear if the FAA has put a no-fly zone over the volcano or is considering it. AZOperator (talk) 23:01, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

so-called "negation"
I don't care that you changed it to "about" but what you replaced was '~' a tilde, not a '-' dash. Tilde is used in math to indicate approximately equal to, so it was not wrong. --SVTCobra 10:54, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Unlike humans, the computer uses tilde for performing subtraction. '~' flips the bits. Speaking mathematically, ≈ is a better approximation as compared to ~ -- so where do we draw a - ? There is one suggestion "Omit needless words". That is not same as "Omit words". •–• 11:12, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * We are humans aren't we? Anyway, See Tilde. I am not a computer programmer, but according to SVTCobra 11:19, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It makes more sense to omit needless words instead of omitting words. Actually, "$" by itself should never be used because the question arises, "Which dollar? CA$? AU$?" It would be better if we stick to ISO currency code. •–• 11:24, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Good so putting US$ clears up the ambiguity does it? That's why "US First Lady" is also unambiguous.Got it. BTW, I will continue to use tilde as a symbol regardless of your silly computer talk. --SVTCobra 11:28, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, actually, there should be a standard practice, hence, the ISO code should be followed. "US First lady" is also ambiguous, because it is not just about which country are we talking about, but also, what is the meaning of "first lady". Just like "Canada tables a bill " would "produce confusion in the US", this would also. The "silly" talk was my choice of edit summary -- It is not that only US-based editors can write punny summaries. If you want to continue using tilde, you might end up reaching home. I will stick by "omit needless words but don't 'omit words'." on and off-wiki. •–• 11:45, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Pardon a technical point on terminology. "US First Lady" is not, in fact, ambiguous.  Clearly it's possible for someone from another part of the world to not know what it means, but that's not ambiguity.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:08, 20 May 2018 (UTC)


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I am very pleased with this attitude towards the wearing of these headscarves. If it is considered the wearing of the Christian Cross to be offensive, then the same must go for all other religious dress. A very good move for Germany and I hope the laws will be obeyed and not just obeyed by the German people (Christians) but also by the muslem hordes.


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Freedom of expression includes what one chooses to wear, and if one wishes to wear a headscarf of a cloth with a colour or even a motif, they should not be stopped from doing so. The only effect it has on primary school students is they find the motifs interesting. Unlike the Christian cross, which depicts violence, by crucifixion which can affect children. Is the Sikh community going to face inconvenient because of it? Turban is an important part of their clothing but I don’t see anyone complaining about it. Where is the neutrality now? And just to remind you,Jumping JackJack, that the Christian leader of Bavaria ordered hanging Christian cross on walls of classrooms, and other administrative buildings for “Bavarian identity”. So when one can not do it in the name of religion, this is what they should do? Say it is that area’s identity to tiptoe around the neutrality laws? Now that does not affect the primary children? I fail so see how wearing a headscarf is going to affect their work they are expected to do.


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This flag 🏴 displays as a black flag on my computer. So does 🏴 the one for Scotland. They look exactly the same as well. --SVTCobra 23:05, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * These set of emojis were added in 2017, and are not supported in older browsers. However, check the URL, you can see the English flag, I assume. •–• 23:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Screenshot of it in RC on my phone. link 103.254.128.130 (talk) 23:09, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And this File:Flag screen shot.png is what it looks like to me. I am running the latest version of Firefox. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:27, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I know. Per Emojipedia, it is “New in 2017. May not show on older devices.” It is yet to receive support from most of the desktop browsers. Mozilla Firefox and Safari for iOS can display it. I bet you can see the English flag in URL address bar in chrome . Opera, Firefox and Chrome on Ubuntu 16.04 and Chrome OS are still showing black flag. Address bar in all three desktop browsers can not render the black flag. Well, one will never actually come to this page as they will be redirected. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 23:37, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * For fun, I switched to Chrome for Windows. As you can see here it's even worse. Just square boxes. --SVTCobra 23:46, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ”Windows” is no less than a nightmare. But as I mentioned earlier, “popular” mobile browsers can render it. And it is primarily aimed to help mobile users. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 23:50, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

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Wikinewsies on computers cannot find these pages in order to edit them. The only way I can even get to them is when I see them in Recent changes. To help this, I think we can make a category for them. "Emoji redirects"? Is that good? --SVTCobra 01:14, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Okay by me. --Pi zero (talk) 01:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, another way to get to this page would be to use Special:WhatLinksHere from the target category. --Pi zero (talk) 01:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, but that necessitates knowing that it even exists in the first place. Anyway, I started the category. I am only aware of the England and Scotland ones. Do more exist? --SVTCobra 01:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Wales. (Not sure about NIR) Are there any very-recently-declared countries so tat I can check? 103.254.128.130 (talk) 04:07, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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Song titles styling
This article has a number of song titles which are italicized, which at the moment is according to our style guide. However, as I have stated at Wikinews talk:Style guide this a poor choice of style and should be changed to a more consistent style. Song and album styling should not be the same because that defeats the purpose of having a style. I will because Pi has already been involved in that discussion. Now is the time to fix our style guide before the problem spreads any further, imo. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:17, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see it as a problem. For one thing, it's simple.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:44, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yet, we might be the only people on the globe (sorry, flat-earthers) that uses that style. Our combined research showed no instance of any style guide recommending italics. I'm sorry, but I do see that as a problem. We have self-determination on Wikinews, but I don't see carving out unique styling as a good use of that. It should not be that hard to admit that BRS got it wrong in a single edit made without any consensus. --SVTCobra 00:04, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * By "we", do you mean enwn, or frwn and eswn, nlwn and ru as well? •–• 00:26, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * -edit conflict-- Yes, French is a different language if you hadn't noticed. Styling is language specific. Besides, it looks like the table was just copied without any thought to styling. In fact, despite your loathing of Wikipedia, English Wikipedia is a much better place to take styling cues from if you are going to use cross-wiki references. See this table. But I have been very careful to craft my argument without referencing Wikipedia for that very reason. And We just want to be different is a very poor argument against my position. --SVTCobra 00:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The Russian link shows a style of «Toy» which disproves your case and shows how it varies from language to language. --SVTCobra 00:37, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, flat-earth believers aren’t language specific. In any case; we cannot copy from Wikipedia, and only if I could have used pseudo elements, the table have been amazing. It is modified from French Wikinews and I am personally very fond of that table. The “wikitable” class is horribly designed and the CSS simplicity is what I like. 223.237.204.134 (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Russian? 223.237.204.134 (talk) 00:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Russian. But none of those are good arguments. Please find a style guide on the English language which says song title should be in italics. Pi and I were unable to do so. We only found guides which recommended simple quotes around song titles, ie "Toy". --SVTCobra 00:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Table, by itself is copyrighted, then I am pretty sure all the football articles which use FIFA as the source would be under copyright violation and so will be be thousands of Wikipedia articles. For the record, it was copied from frwn, and not from Eurovision. That source was used only to make sure everything there was correct. •–• 23:47, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The music and lyrics column seems to be formatted differently than the others. It lacks the lines separating rows. I can't review, because Eurovision has chosen to make those videos unavailable in my country. --SVTCobra 09:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I know -- and it would be difficult to directly jump into how to verify it (If you use Opera, they have in-built VPN) I had asked Green Giant to review it, but I was too late. Seems like they are gone. But if you are using VPN to access it, some tips:

•–• 09:46, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So, let's see the columns which are going to be, in the table.
 * 1) Order (of performance), Country, Artist(s), Song, Music and Lyrics, Points and rank. (as of now)
 * 2) In the first few seconds of the video, you can see the country name, Artist(s), Music and Lyrics.
 * 3) For the points, you need to refer this tweet (cited in the sources)
 * 4) For the chronology of when they perform, let the video start (on YouTube) and at the bottom left corner, you can see the order number in which they performed.
 * 5) You won't have to watch more than 10 seconds of any video.
 * 6) Remember, I will separate music and lyricist by "&".
 * 7) Needless to say, if there is no "&", the same person did both.
 * 8) I would say, check each tuple one by one.
 * ”BOrislav Milanov” in Austria, lowercase O. Slovenia’s Lea Sir is for Music as well as lyrics. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 10:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, Sobral is linked to ice in the article; can you remove the second link? 103.254.128.130 (talk) 10:37, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * if you have verified the table, sight the edits. •–• 12:08, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Although we have a "link on first instance" policy, that is generally for the text body of the article. So-called "duplicate links" can often be found in infoboxes, image captions, tables, and other parts of articles, such as match report templates. It is very useful for the reader to have the links in the table, so they don't have to go back up to the text and "hunt" for the link to the artist or song. --SVTCobra 12:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sobral is last year's winner, and in the article, his name was linked twice. That was to be fixed. He is not in the table. •–• 13:05, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, good. --SVTCobra 13:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)


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 * I'm ambivalent over whether we want a category that would include moonwalks, or for that matter Mars-walks. Renaming this to spacewalk would help to clarify, in that regard.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:34, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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 * As you're agreeable, I think it'll be okay to just change it. Hopefully I can do that later today.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:30, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

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Dublin mayor suggests not sending Irish representative to Israel for Eurovision 2019; two European Parliament lawmakers support boycott

May 16, 2018 On Sunday, Dublin's Lord Mayor spoke about not sending Irish representatives to the next year's Eurovision Song Contest, asserting Palestine solidarity. The announcement came just one day after Israeli singer won this year's Eurovision in Portuguese capital Lisbon. Two European Parliament lawmakers from Ireland, Lynn Boylann and Nessa Childers, endorsed boycotting next year's contest.

Speaking to news site Dublin Live, MacDonncha said next year's contest should be boycotted to display solidarity with Palestineans. "I don't think we should send a representative", the mayor said. "I think the horrific ordeal of the Palestinian people needs to be highlighted", MacDonncha said.

After winning this year's contest, 25-year-old Netta, who performed Toy featuring chicken dance, chicken noises, and Japanese cultural references criticized as, said, "Thank you for celebrating diversity. Thank you! I love my country. Next year in Jerusalem!" The country which wins the song contest hosts next year's iteration of Eurovision. Israel claims Jerusalem, including. Palestine claims East Jerusalem as the capital of their future state. is on-going for years. Clashes between Israel and Palestine have happened several times. This Monday, more than 50 Palestine civilians were killed in Gaza in a clash against Israeli forces.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a tweet congratulated Netta after her victory and said, Israel came to control East Jerusalem as a part of the 1967. Legal sovereignty of Israel's claim of the entire city is not globally acknowledged. Until this Monday, no country in the world had its Israeli embassy in Jerusalem; On Monday, Israel's ally the United States shifted its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

MacDonncha, speaking to Dublin Live, said, "The Irish-Palestinean solidarity campaign has collected names of 500 artists who have said they would not work in the State of Israel, that they would boycott in the protest and the treatment of Palestinean people". At the time of the contest, Ireland regional lawmaker Órla Nic Biorna tweeted, "Shocked at the support for Israel tonight in the Eurovision. People seem to forget that they [Israel] are a state illegally occupying Palestine".

Regarding hosting the contest in Jerusalem, European Parliament lawmaker Nessa Childers wrote on Twitter, "Jerusalem? The mind boggles. I thought Tel Aviv." Lynn Boylan of the party tweeted saying, "Israel wins Eurovision so let's make BDS [Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions] more successful than ever in 2019." Lawmaker Emmett O'Brien replied to Boylan saying "So much pathetic hate against Israel" and later added, "How many times has Palestine been offered peace? Will you condemn the barbarity of Hamas?"

MacDonncha is banned from entering Israel. Last month, the Israeli Interior ministry tried to bar MacDonncha's entry to Israel. The mayor was invited by the Palestinian Authority for a conference. However, reportedly the misspelt name of MacDonncha failed to bar him from arriving at Israeli capital Tel Aviv from which he went to Ramallah for the conference. Earlier, the Dublin city council passed a resolution to endorse and support the Palestine-led Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions movement. The resolution read, "Since its violent establishment in 1948 through the ethnic cleansing of more than half of the indigenous people of Palestine, the state of Israel has denied Palestinians their fundamental rights and has refused to comply with international law [...] this City Council fully supports and endorses the Palestinian-led Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions movement for freedom, equality, and justice."

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Three revert rule
You are in violation of the three revert rule and deserving to be blocked. --SVTCobra 23:20, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That is for disruptive editing, which by the way, does not apply when the author is trying to excercise right to use their particular choice of English, and when they are not wrong. 223.237.219.120 (talk) 23:22, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * And that is exactly what you are engaged in. I see you violated it again. --SVTCobra 23:30, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * speak to pizero after they have reviewed the article. 223.237.219.120 (talk) 23:31, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No. There is nothing to talk about. --SVTCobra 23:34, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * actually, there is. •–•  23:42, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, there really isn't. "Aunty" or "auntie" is informal regardless of what Wiktionary does or doesn't say. It should not be used, just like we don't use "mommy" and "daddy". It is not subject to an "author's choice". --SVTCobra 23:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * In India, we are taught “aunty” in school. Up to a point that “aunt” seems alien”. If you use Google for searching, go for Google Scholar otherwise all you would find is link to porn sites. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 23:54, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Then I suggest you bring it up with the headmaster at your school or perhaps the Education Minister. File:Aunty screenshot.png --SVTCobra 00:08, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay then; tell every user on-wiki to strictly abide by English (UK). 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:11, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If you looked, there was also US English. --SVTCobra 00:13, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * That isn’t the real English. That isn’t the version used in all the US states to begin with. If English (IN) is not allowed, why should one allow English (US)? 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:17, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * We only have your word for it being proper English (IN). No disrespect, but you are not a credible source. --SVTCobra 00:21, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * should have pointed before voting for my accreditation request. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:23, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * though a blog, but the numbers confirm I am not wrong. link. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:26, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * It also clearly shows it as being informal. If someone was changing "aunty" to "auntie", I'd agree with your choice of spelling, however, as it is informal, that discussion is moot. --SVTCobra 00:33, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Cop is informal, too. Nobody acts crazy that time. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what you are talking about, but I wouldn't allow that either. --SVTCobra 00:40, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Then fix all those articles mentioning “cops”. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:43, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * A quick gander, just to humor you. Seems that most if not all are either in quotes or in source titles. --SVTCobra 00:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, most != all. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 01:02, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Thread:Comments:Netta wins Eurovision Song Contest for Israel/Cultural appropriation

Cultural appropriation is such a garbage concept. Was Netta mocking the Japanese? No? Well, then stfu, Joana Ramiro. Nobody appointed you the defender of Japanese culture. And by the definition of so-called cultural appropriation, as if it matters, Netta is part of a much smaller minority so it should be impossible for her to culturally appropriate. Joana Ramiro is nothing but an SJW busybody whose divisive opinions should be ignored at every turn.


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In this particular case I think the point was that these Eurovision songs should generally be characteristic of the culture of the respective countries. However, I kind of agree about the concept of cultural appropriation in general. It might seem reasonable at first, protecting cultural identities, but in the bigger picture, cultural purity is a rallying cry of ultra-nationalism.


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Talk:Dublin mayor suggests not sending Irish representative to Israel for Eurovision 2019; two European Parliament lawmakers support boycott

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Thread:Comments:Dublin mayor suggests not sending Irish representative to Israel for Eurovision 2019; two European Parliament lawmakers support boycott/Another idiot

Well, well, well. Looks like we have another idiot. Who does MacDonncha think he is and what does he think his job is? I suspect the good citizens of Dublin elected him to administrate their city, not engage in foreign affairs like a complete douchebag. MacDonncha, that's the job of Ireland's government, not Dublin's mayor.


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I wouldn't care to guess what the citizens of Dublin think of this. Ireland has recent experience with generational conflicts, and all things considered have done rather well with it lately.


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Thread:Comments:Dublin mayor suggests not sending Irish representative to Israel for Eurovision 2019; two European Parliament lawmakers support boycott/Another idiot/reply (2)

Ah, he's Sinn Féin, well, that explains some things. The IRA made alliances with all kinds of other terrorist organisations -- ahem, I mean revolutionaries -- back in the day. It's odd these loyalties can survive so long. It's as if he doesn't realise Hamas would just as soon kill him once he outlives his usefulness to them.


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Thread:Comments:Netta wins Eurovision Song Contest for Israel/Cultural appropriation/reply (2)

You are not the only one who can exercise freedom of expression. Nobody appointed you to defend the "beautiful creature", who was too busy singing about "stupid boy" and yet call it "empowering" song. If Ramiro wants to point out something, who the hell are you asking them to shut up? Surely you have not watched the video to make a fair comment. 100+ Maneki-neko dolls, yet audacity to say that. Funny to see you exercising your constitutional rights per the first amendment, but want to curtail other's fundamental rights to freedom of expression.


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Thread:Comments:Netta wins Eurovision Song Contest for Israel/Cultural appropriation/reply (3)

LOL ... I am not so much defending Netta ... I am attacking Ramiro. The concept of cultural appropriation should not exist and there's nothing to point out. My telling her to "stfu" is not curtailing her freedom of speech, it's more saying her statements are complete garbage and nobody should listen to her. Have you seen her twitter? It's a never-ending stream of bitching and moaning. She is dividing people, not helping to bring together any kind of common understanding.

The funny thing is Netta and Ramiro are both obviously fourth-wave feminists. So, they should be allies, right? Well, no. The philosophy is so toxic that they will eat each other as they attack anyone and everyone with their bullshit message. I did not watch the video, but I have seen still photographs.

You've seen the video of the performance. Were you offended on behalf of the Japanese people? Was Netta oppressing them? I understand there was a Pokemon involved in this dire human tragedy.


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But you did not hesitate assuming she was defending the culture.


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Thread:Comments:Netta wins Eurovision Song Contest for Israel/Cultural appropriation/reply (5)

I didn't have to assume. That's what she said she was doing. And, yes, I've read a lot more of her tweets than just the one in the article.


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If I was reporting her tweets as hate-speech or some other nefarious shit, then you could say I was trying to curtail her freedom of speech. Saying "stfu" does no such thing.


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Category talk:Environmental Protection Agency

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Editprotected Could we rename this category to Category:Environmental Protection Agency? Green Giant (talk) 19:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good idea to me. Better to do it now before we add other articles. --SVTCobra 19:59, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Done. --Pi zero (talk) 20:10, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Fill this category The first four are obvious candidates. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 19:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
 * U.S. EPA submits 2003 greenhouse gas inventory to U.N.
 * George W. Bush nominates EPA Administrator Mike Leavitt as health secretary
 * Federal judge calls EPA head's post 9/11 conduct "conscience-shocking".
 * EPA proposes using Clean Air Act to fight global warming
 * U.S. Supreme Court to hear arguments on global warming because the role of the EPA was central to the discussion.
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Thread:Comments:Dublin mayor suggests not sending Irish representative to Israel for Eurovision 2019; two European Parliament lawmakers support boycott/Another idiot/reply (3)

Best keep issues separated. Whether or not the Israeli state is awful does not depend on whether or not Hamas is awful. It's perfectly possible for them to both be awful.

I'm being told I wouldn't be able to post this if I weren't an admin because of a blacklist entry that I know wasn't meant to have anything to do with LQT (because I wrote that entry myself). I've got no clue why the current situation matches that blacklist entry, but it's likely to be something invisibly internal to LQT. Something is sure screwed up.


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Hello, I saw your contribution. However, it is not news. It happened long ago. If you want to preserve President Trump's speeches, I suggest you go to Wikiquote. If you want to contribute Wikinews, look at the above links and get an overview. Sometimes, Wikipedia will have an article for an important speech, but I don't know if that is the case here. You will have to look for yourself. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:39, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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Football: Atlético Madrid beats Marseille 3-0 to win third Europa League title

May 19, 2018 On Wednesday, Spanish capital football club Atlético Madrid defeated French team 3–0 to win the  Final at the, in France. French striker Antoine Griezmann scored a brace (two goals in one game), one goal in each half, and Atlético's captain netted the third goal a few minutes before the final whistle as Atlético won the UEFA Europa League for the third time. This was Marseille's third defeat in three Europa League or UEFA Cup finals, never netting a single goal in the final. Marseille had greater ball possession and better passing accuracy. Marseille were awarded three free-kicks in the first ten minutes of the match. The French side created several chances in the first half but failed to convert any into a goal. Around the 20th minute, Marseille's André Zambo Anguissa lost the ball, as Madrid's captain Gabi assisted Griezmann who opened the scoring with his left foot. A couple of minutes later, a referee made the first booking of the match. Atlético's received a yellow card for a bad foul. Just after the half-hour mark, Marseille's midfielder was injured and replaced by. Payet has provided 22 assists in all competitions this season. The first half ended in a 1–0 lead for the Spanish side. Marseille's was the second player to receive a yellow card.

At the beginning of the second half, Vrsaljko was replaced by due to injury. Less than five minutes into the second half, Frenchman Griezman doubled the lead, scoring another left-footed goal, assisted by. Koke also assisted Gabi in the 89th minute, who scored his first goal for Atlético since August 2015. 34-year-old Gabi became the oldest player to score a goal in a Europa final. Fernando Torres was substituted for Griezmann in the 90th minute. Marseille committed eighteen fouls in the match, twice as many as their opponents. Madrid's goalkeeper acheived his seventh clean sheet in this season's European competitions — UEFA Champions League and Europa League.

Griezmann was awarded the Man of the Match award. After winning the match, Griezmann said, "I've been working to experience such a moment for many years". Marseille's defender Adil Rami said, "The final step was too far for us but we fought for everything. We lacked experience. Against a team like this you shouldn't try to play football. You need to knock it long and high and win second balls. When you try to play and lose the ball against them, that's when you're in trouble. The opening goal we conceded was the turning point. Up until then we had troubled their defence."

Previously, Atlético won the Europa League in 2010 and 2012. This was the second Europa league victory for the Rojiblancos under Diego Simeone's management. Atlético has also reached two UEFA Champions League finals under Simeone's management — in 2014 and 2016 — losing both to their city rivals Real Madrid.


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Talk:Football: Atlético Madrid beats Marseille 3-0 to win third Europa League title

Lede paragraph
Why is there so much focus on previous Europa League finals in this paragraph. Also, it is confusing, it makes it look like Atletico and Marseille played each other three times, which I believe is not the case, they just happen to both have reached the finals three times. I would prefer a lede that concentrated more on the focal event. --SVTCobra 11:44, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As the headline suggests, the focus is not Atléti winning the trophy, but winning it for the third time; just like the undecima article mentioned "eleventh" in the lede or the decima article mentioned "tenth" in the lede. •–•  11:50, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Images
First, I don't see anything wrong with portraits of athletes. But secondly, this edit summary: "licence requirements -- don't bother adding images to my articles if licence link is not explicitly mentioned" seems to show a lack of understanding that articles belong to Wikinews, not the author. And P.S. it is not a requirement of CC-BY licenses; if you want to add that, I'm not going to stop you. But you can't make me do it for you. --SVTCobra 13:41, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Of the many things an author can control, including sub-dialect, style, flow, and caption I am saying what I can. By the way, "Attribution — You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made." Don't make re-users hunt for the licence. See how Create Commons mentioned the link. In all fairness, I am still the author of the content, and I can even prove it for almost every article I have written the last eighteen months. Articles do not belong to Wikinews, Wikinews is just one of the places it is published on, and Wikinews can curate the content. Unlike Wikinews, I can release the content in any licence, let it be more "free" or less "free" licence. But if you still have a problem when I said "my articles" -- I will reword that for you -- "articles where I am the main or major contributor". •–• 15:04, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't care how Creative Commons does it. The simple fact that our images are clickable and all of the license and author information is available there satisfies all legal requirements. Even our practice of crediting the author in the caption is overkill, strictly speaking. "Hunt for the license" you say. It is literally one click away. Why would I do all that work to save someone one click? BTW, the author does not have creative control over style. We have a style guide which is official policy. You can add the license if you want. I'm just saying, it's not my job. --SVTCobra 15:15, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I can tell you what I did do, however. I went to Commons, checked their license and author, noticed they had the author wrong, and fixed it over there. I think I did more than enough to make sure no rights were being violated. --SVTCobra 15:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, as the license says the attribution must have a link to license -- they don't say the file page should have the licence link. If you don't want to do it, either write a mail to Creative Commons asking them to explain that part (oh, wait! I already did that) or give them an example of what is Wikipedia is doing, ask tell them to clarify the sentence. But if you can't, then use media licensed under licences with do not ask for link to licences. If it is not your job, it is not your job, then it is not your job to add images (but I can't possibly stop anyone from editing it). Authors wrote the SG, so in a way, they control the style, subject to endorsement by other authors and a more complex process behind it. •–• 15:25, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Advantage of mentioning licence and link to original file is that it prevents the harm done by vandalism of one file page. It would not give misleading information; and I guess that was the motivation of Creative Commons for mentioning it in the license. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 15:40, 17 May 2018 (UTC)


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Principal, teacher arrested for allegedly whipping two students late for school in Ayetoro, Nigeria

May 19, 2018 state police said the proprietor, the principal, and a teacher at Meteorite Standard School in, Nigeria were arrested on Wednesday for allegedly tying two students — one male and one female — to crosses and lashing them with a for being late to school. They are being charged with assault as well as intention to cause grievous bodily harm. According to police officer Livinus, who witnessed the lashing, he told the proprietor of the private school, identified as Afolayan Joseph, to untie the students. The proprietors "refused, saying there was nothing anybody could tell him that would make him to release them," Livinus told a local newspaper . Livinus added that he was beaten when the tried to untie the students. "Before I returned from picking handcuffs from my car, they had grabbed a friend who was with me [...] and beaten him up with a horsewhip", the police officer said.

Livinus said he entered the school property with the help of neighbours, but the principal denied to follow him. Linivous later called police station's divisional officer for additional police at the scene, who later handled the situation. Calling the act as "barbaric", Ogun Police Public Relations Officer Abimbola Oyeyemi confirmed the arrest of three. Oyeyemi said the investigation is to be conducted by State Criminal Investigation and Intelligence Department.

The public relations officer said, "I don't see any offence that a secondary school pupil will commit that will make someone to tie him or her and be flogging them in public." Oyeyemi later added saying, "The act is no longer a corrective measure; it is a barbaric act and it will not be allowed in this 21st century". Nigeria is not one of the countries who have banned.


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Swaziland's King Mswati III signs gazette to rename country to eSwatini

May 20, 2018 On Thursday, the King of Swaziland, Mswati III, signed an official to change the name of the country to, which means "land of the Swazi" in the. Per the gazette, a form of official government publication for important announcements, the absolute monarchy is to be referred to as "eSwatini" in all official documents including Swazi passports. The Gazette read, "In exercise of the powers conferred on me by section 64 (3) of the Constitution of Swaziland Act No. 1 of 2005, I, Mswati III, King and Ingwenyama of Eswatini makes the declaration that the name of the Kingdom of Swaziland is changed to Kingdom of Eswatini."

A month ago, on April 19, on the 50th anniversary of the country's independence from Britain, and King Mswati's 50th birthday, the ruler said in a speech that the country's name "was inherited from the British". The monarch has used "eSwatini" on various international stages including the United Nations's 2017 General Assembly and an African Union summit.

In the independence day speech, the king said, "If we are to give true meaning to our independence, time has come to give our country a name of its people. It must be said that this process is long overdue, particularly if you consider how other countries in the region localised their names soon after independence [...] I have the pleasure to present to you, on this historic day, a new name for the kingdom. Our country will now be called Kingdom of Eswatini". The nearby countries of Zimbabwe, Malawi and Botswana all changed their names after attaining independence from Britain. Their previous names were Rhodesia, and  respectively.

Although the gazette was signed this week, it states "the notice shall be deemed to have come into force on April 19". At the April event, the monarch highlighted the similarity between the names of "Swaziland" and "Switzerland", a European nation. He said, "Whenever we go abroad, people refer to us as Switzerland".

The citizens are to be referred to as "Emaswati" (plural) or "Liswati" (singular).


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