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January 24, 2018 United States Vice President Mike Pence was in Israel on Monday and addressed the Knesset, Israel's highest legislative body. During his speech, Pence promised the US would transfer its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem before the end of 2019. He also spoke of US support of Israel, often using references.

"In the story of the Jews, we’ve always seen the story of America. It is the story of an exodus, a journey from persecution to freedom, a story that shows the power of faith and the promise of hope," said Pence. "My country’s very first settlers also saw themselves as pilgrims, sent by Providence, to build a new Promised Land. The songs and stories of the people of Israel were their anthems, and they faithfully taught them to their children, and do to this day. And our founders, as others have said, turned to the wisdom of the Hebrew Bible for direction, guidance, and inspiration."

"Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. And, as such, President Trump has directed the State Department to immediately begin preparations to move the United States Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem," Pence said later in the speech. "In the weeks ahead, our administration will advance its plan to open the United States Embassy in Jerusalem, and that United States Embassy will open before the end of next year."

Twelve Israeli Arab and one Jewish member of the Knesset protested Pence on the floor of the legislature. Holding signs such as "Jerusalem is the capital of Palestine," they were escorted out by security. Generally, Pence's words were met by applause and some standing ovations.

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United States: Two dead in Kentucky high school shooting

January 24, 2018 Tuesday morning, before the start of classes at in, Kentucky,  a shooter opened fire on students and faculty. The incident left two dead and seventeen injured. The suspected shooter is in police custody.

State Police Commissioner Richard W. Sanders said the shooter entered the school at 7:57 in the morning and started shooting with a handgun in a common area of the school prior to the beginning of classes. According to Kentucky Governor first responders arrived at the scene at 8:06 and were able to secure "a non-violent apprehension" of the suspect.

According to both Bevin and Sanders, a fifteen-year-old girl died at the school and a fifteen-year-old boy died at the hospital. Twelve other people suffered gunshot wounds and five more were injured in the chaos. State police say all of the shooting victims were students ranging from fourteen to eighteen years of age. Governor Bevin added that the suspect is also a fifteen-year-old student at the high school.

Marshall County Attorney Jeff Edwards said that the suspect will likely be tried as an adult and that there was no current indication as of now that anyone specific was targeted. Marshall County High School. Edwards said, "I've been doing this for 25 years. It's not like anything I've experienced in my life."

"I did not see the shooter, but I did see the commons after. It was a disaster. Everyone just dropped their stuff and ran," said Allissa Hubbard, a student, while speaking to 's local affiliate.

Benton is located in western Kentucky. Marshall County High School had an enrollment of 1374 students last school year, according to state data.


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Talk:United States: Two dead in Kentucky high school shooting

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The number of students enrolled came from the USA Today article. To double verify, I have been able to confirm the number with the Kentucky Department of Education. I am not listing it as a source, because of the nature of the site. This link and then select in the "School Report Card" section: County: Marshall, Year: 2016/2017, School: Marshall County High School. After submitting the form, a report is generated that does show 1374 students. However, there's no direct link. Hope this helps. Cheers, --SVTCobra 15:09, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * I've added the country to the lede (I left it pending review, though it seems pretty close to the self-sight-able line). The headline, though I'm sure we can live with it, might ideally have mentioned the country too; I would have been tempted to just say "Kentucky, US" there.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:07, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Eh, the first words in the title are literally United States. --SVTCobra 16:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Heh, and I usually don't even notice them there. (I'd usually rather integrate the country into the headline sentence.)  --Pi zero (talk) 16:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Cheers. I think it’s fine to include the country in the lede unless perhaps it is somewhere really well known like New York. Green Giant (talk) 16:50, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


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United States: Dr. Larry Nassar sentenced in sexual abuse case

January 27, 2018 Former team doctor  was sentenced to prison on Wednesday for 40 to 175 years in, Michigan, United States. Nassar pleaded guilty in November to seven charges of sexual assault in Ingham County, however, he is alleged to have victimized over a hundred girls over several years. Nassar is currently serving a 60-year sentence for federal child pornography charges.

Judge, presiding over the Ingham County Circuit Court in , Michigan, handed down the sentence, stating: "I've just signed your death warrant."

Rachael Denhollander first accused Nassar, filing a criminal complaint in 2016. Nassar was charged in Ingham County with seven counts of sexual abuse and pleaded guilty in November of 2017. The true number of victims is alleged to exceed one hundred. During the in court over 150 women testified Nassar abused them. Alleged victims include famous Olympic gymnasts, such as, , and , although Nassar was not specifically charged with abusing them.

Judge Aquilina read out parts of a statement Nassar submitted to the court. In the statement, Nassar wrote, "I was a good doctor, because my treatments worked and those patients that are now speaking out are the same ones that kept coming back over and over". He also criticized an earlier judge for going "ballistic". Aquilina declined to read the entirety, citing concern for the victims; "I don't want them re-victimized by the words in the letter", she said. Nassar served as the team physician for USA Gymnastics for years, spanning four. Simultaneously, he served with. He abused his victims under pretense of treating them as a doctor.

Nassar's case has led to allegations of lack of oversight by Michigan State University, USA Gymnastics, and the (USOC). At USA Gymnastics, prior to the sentencing three board members resigned over the case on Monday, as well as its president last year. Corporate sponsors of the organization also pulled out.

The current president of USA Gymnastics, Kerry Perry, who was appointed in December, released a statement after the sentencing: "During the last seven days, more than 150 courageous women have shared their deeply personal experiences and how Larry Nassar’s despicable crimes impacted their lives. [...] USA Gymnastics applauds Judge Rosemarie Aquilina for handing Nassar the maximum sentence of up to 175 years[...] As stated on my first day on Dec. 1, 2017, I will not waver on my commitment to focus each and every day on our organization’s highest priority — the safety, health and well-being of our athletes."

USOC head Scott Blackmun also released a statement in which he apologized: "The purpose of this message is to tell all of Nassar’s victims and survivors, directly, how incredibly sorry we are. We have said it in other contexts, but we have not been direct enough with you. We are sorry for the pain caused by this terrible man, and sorry that you weren’t afforded a safe opportunity to pursue your sports dreams. The Olympic family is among those that have failed you."

Both and the  noted applause in the courtroom when Nassar was escorted out. Judge Aquilina said, "There has to be a massive investigation as to why there was inaction, why there was silence."


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Healthy cloned monkeys born in Shanghai

January 25, 2018

In findings published Wednesday in the scientific journal , a team of scientists from the in Shanghai, China have announced the first-ever cloning of a primate from post-embryonic cells, namely two macaque monkeys. They used, the same method that was used to create in 1996.

In somatic cell nuclear transfer, scientists remove the, which is the organelle that contains the , from an unfertilized , or egg cell, and implant the nucleus from a , or non-reproductive cell, into that ovum. The ovum is then stimulated and develops in the normal way, growing into a whole organism that has the same nuclear DNA as the donor organism, though it will have all of the ovum's and other cellular machinery. Clones like these have been described as identical twins to their donors, but younger.

The scientists implanted 21 into surrogate mother monkeys, resulting in six pregnancies, two of which produced living animals. The young clones were named both derived from, the Chinese-language word for the Chinese people. They are both, or crab-eating macaques (Macaca fascicularis). The scientists also attempted to clone macaques using nuclei from adult donors. They implanted 42 surrogates, resulting in 22 pregnancies, but there were still only two infant macaques, and they died soon after birth. The Scotland-based team that created Dolly the sheep in 1996 required 277 attempts and produced only one lamb.

Generally, the older the donor organism, the more difficult it is to get the DNA from the harvested nucleus to reactivate the genes that allow the clone organism to grow. Previous efforts to clone (Macaca mulatta) using  have been successful, but the current attempt used significantly older donors: fetal, which are key cells in connective tissue, and adult monkey.

"We're excited — extremely excited," said study co-author. "This is really, I think, a breakthrough for biomedicine." He went on to say that the cloned monkeys could be used as test subjects for the study of neurological diseases such as and 's. Primates are already a popular  for neurological studies. In the United States, for example, non-human primates are used in less than 0.3% of all animal experiments, most of them involving neuroscience, and macaques in particular are a well-established animal model of, which causes.

"I think it's a very exciting landmark. It's a major advance," agreed reproductive biologist Dieter Egli of. "It should be possible to make models of human disease in those monkeys and study those and then attempt to cure it."

About 90% of the laboratory animals used in the United States are rodents. Although the first cloned mouse was born in 1998, cloned mice are not currently common in laboratory settings. This may be because producing inbred mouse lines is still relatively effective.

Although the announcement raised enthusiasm from researchers, it also drew caution from. "Cloning one individual in the image of another really sort of demeans the significance of us as individuals," says Harvard Medical School's Dr. George Daley, speaking specifically of cloning humans. "There's a certain sort of gut sense that it violates sort of natural norms." While Muming Poo concedes it is now theoretically possible to clone a human, he says his lab has no plans to do so.

Although somatic cell nuclear transfer was used successfully in amphibians as early as 1952, getting it to work in mammals took much longer. Dolly, the first cloned mammal, was born in 1996. Teams have been trying to clone monkeys for decades, but primate DNA is notoriously difficult to work with. "The trick is we choose the right chemicals to turn on these genes we transfer into the egg," Mu-ming Poo told the press. "So that's what we did different. I think that's the key." One of the agents used to treat the ova was messenger RNA from the human gene.

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how about "...an entire nucleus from a non-reproductive cell, known as somatic cell ..." I think that is what your original edit suggested; saying "non-reproductive somatic cell" would make a noob wonder if there are reproductive somatic cells too.

And what about "though it will have all of the ovum's cell organelles including mitochondria." -- by "cellular machinery", did you mean the cellular activities/organelle activities? •–• 06:08, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

 * I rewrote some of the explanation of the study to try to make it more layman-friendly and fit the pyramid structure a little more. I tried to add in some more explanatory text about the more jargony terms, and more wikilinks. There was a diagram of the process from Wikipedia that could be used: File:Cloning_diagram_english.svg. —mikemoral (talk) 09:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I made a couple of factual corrections but overall your changes are good. The thing we need to not trip over is that not all our DNA is in the nucleus.  The mitochondria also have their own DNA (but it's only used in the mitochondria; it doesn't encode anything for your eyes or bones or blood chemistry like nuclear DNA does).  I feel the best thing to do is to mention the mitochondria but not go into detail.  That way, readers who already know about mitochondrial DNA will see the reference and readers who don't will not be either misled or confused or overwhelmed.
 * The other trick? The real term for "the DNA in the nucleus (as opposed to the DNA in the mitochondria)" is "somatic DNA"!  That would probably confuse people, so I just called it "nuclear DNA" here. Darkfrog24 (talk) 14:04, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was trying to find a way to describe the nucleus briefly in text, "DNA-containing" seemed to work, but I get it's confusing with those cellular powerhouses having their own DNA, so "nuclear DNA" works better. —mikemoral (talk) 19:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Date of mouse cloning
The source says a male mouse in 1998. It doesn't say when the first mouse was cloned. If we got that wrong, we need to issue a correction (and no, we don't have to stick to the cited sources in establishing that we got something wrong; we do need to document it very well, though). --Pi zero (talk) 23:17, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * A quick google yielded this CBS News story which says October 3, 1997 was when the first cloned mouse was born. Her name was Cumulina (RIP). --SVTCobra 23:24, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * An old press release from the University of Hawaii at Manoa seems to suggest it was first in 1998. Tracking down the relevant issue of Nature Genetics the researchers published a report which gives that same October 1997 date as the Cumulina's birth (named after cumulus cells apparently), though the paper itself wasn't published until June 1998. —mikemoral (talk) 23:39, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In regards to any correction, I'd suggest we could either note the year it was reported, or the year of actual birth. —mikemoral (talk) 23:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

I was trying to correct the second "1998" in reference to Dolly the sheep, a typo for "1996." I simply got the wrong one. The mouse was indeed 1998. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:04, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * That seems to me treatable as a typo, since we'd already fixed the earlier mention of that date. We seem to have a question about the mouse, now, though.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The press release that Mike found seems to pertain to the first male mouse cloning (1999, not 1998 btw). The first female mouse does seem to be October 1997. Is that close enough to leave as 1998, which is likely when it became public? --SVTCobra 02:26, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Skimmed the release. Dates are funny in science.  You can perform a study and then not publish it until two years later.  The press release is dated 1999, but the study may have happened in 1998.  Let's take a closer look.  The release doesn't say when anything happened, except like this: "When we produced mouse clones last year, people asked if it could be done with males." So the first clone, irrespective of gender, was the year prior to this person being interviewed, probably 1998.
 * As for the first female mouse clone, CBS says 1997 and University of Utah says 1998. Maybe check the date on the actual study and switch from "born" to "announced." Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:19, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Reminder: if we decide we've got it wrong, it requires a correction. --Pi zero (talk) 12:42, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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'Save the Children' organisation suspends all activities in Afghanistan after ISIL attack

January 26, 2018 Wednesday, UK-based non-governmental charity organisation announced in an official statement on their website the temporary suspension of all their activities in Afghanistan. The reason for this is an ISIL-claimed attack on a Save the Children office in, , which cost the lives of three staff members of the charity.

A group of militants attacked Save the Children's office after a suicide car explosion Wednesday morning just after 9 AM, local time. Staff member Zabiullah told The Guardian he heard "a very big explosion", after which he and his friends "rushed the basement". According to the latest reports, the attackers killed six people in total and injured more than two dozen people. One eyewitness said the attackers used to blast the compound gates, according to the BBC. A spokesperson for Nangarhar's governor said in a statement, six militants were involved in the attack. Later, in an updated statement, he said there were only five and all of them were killed. Afghan security personnel said the attackers killed two soldiers, two guards and two civilians. Sohrab Qaderi, a government member of Nangarhar province, said about four dozen people were rescued from the basement of the building, most of whom were Save the Children employees. They managed to escape through a back exit, one of them told the BBC afterwards. It took about ten hours to stop the attack, Qaderi added.

"We have temporarily suspended our operations across the country following today's events, however we remain fully committed to helping the most deprived children of Afghanistan", stated Save the Children in an official statement published Wednesday. They added, "We remain committed to resuming our operations and lifesaving work as quickly as possible, as soon as we can be assured that it is safe to do so." Furthermore, the organisation confirmed in the statement the death of three of its own staff members, one of whom was one of the two killed civilians. They also said four other staff members, who were injured, were receiving medical aid.

Via, militant group Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) has claimed the responsibility of the attack, calling British and Swedish foundations, as well as institutes of the Afghan government, the targets of the attack.

Save the Children established operations in Afghanistan in 1976. As of 2018, it was present in sixteen Afghan provinces. In recent years, several attacks on rescue organisations have taken place northern Afghanistan. In February 2017, six people working for the Red Cross were killed in Dasth-e-Leili, while delivering humanitarian aid. Nine members of Czech-based organisation were killed in  in 2015; and in 2013, six staff members of, a French charity, were shot dead in.


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Number of deadly victims among the non-IS militants
There seem to be at least four (three of whom were staff members of Save the Children), but other sources say there are five or six. There's still a lot of uncertainty right now, so the article may need adaptations on this point. De Wikischim (talk) 21:38, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You submitted this for review at 21:34, but now more than 90 minutes later, you are still editing and changing the article. Please don't submit until you are ready and satisfied with your work. Cheers, --SVTCobra 23:26, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Update: it seems rather sure now that six people have been killed by the attackers. Especially the Guardian article is clear about this. There are more details about this in the text here now. De Wikischim (talk) 10:57, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * I agree, a quick check confirms very extensive similarities. Please see the compact advice at WN:PILLARS and discussion at WN:Plagiarism.  (There are other significant difficulties with this article, but there's no point getting into them with a large-scale "copyvio" problem.)  --Pi zero (talk) 01:22, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The article says "terrorist attack" which is not neutral. The headline says "IS" which is an ambigious abbreviation. Had it be "Islamic State" it is inaccurate, and also biased. Use ISIL instead. Write "Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant" for the first time, and from the next time, you can write ISIL. Avoid information in parenthesis. Spell out small numbers. Restrict lede for answering only the basic 5Ws and Hs. 223.237.226.119 (talk) 01:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

 * As far as I can see, some improvements have been made (thanks for that), while some other information was deleted for unclear reasons (I've put an eyewitness report back about how they escaped from the building, I really see no need to remove that). I do not understand why all the links in the text to WP had to be removed (I see user:Mikemoral has put them back, thanks.) Furthermore, I do not think the original version as I uploaded it yesterday night can really be called an example of copyvio; there were perhaps somewhere three or four succeeding words which matched certain text parts in the sources, but surely no entire sentences which had been copied (apart from the quotes, but those are still in it). I'd rather not be accused that soon of plagiarism (which is, actually, a delict). De Wikischim (talk) 09:59, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Update: I have made some further changes to the article. I've changed the lede again too; for the main topic, it is important to mention immediately the fact that three staff members of Save the Children were killed. The lede only mentioned that four people were injured; it's a little ridiculous, in my view, to mention only that there were people injured and not immediately that other people were killed. I think this is surely ready for review now. De Wikischim (talk) 10:45, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am going to revert most of your edits before it breaks the flow, adds complexity of the lede — it was already humongous. 223.237.197.23 (talk) 10:56, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Why? Can you please be a little clearer about why my changes are that wrong?--De Wikischim (talk) 10:58, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Minimising info in lede, fixing article flow, removing claims which can be questioned. •–• 11:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am editing the article -- if anyone interrupts, and I get an edit conflict, I am going to overwrite it. Don't say that I did not warn you before. •–• 11:07, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have undone this again - sorry but you cannot simply claim an article this way. The version which you just put back twice had some evident errors (mainly linguistic) which I had just corrected and it had other shortcomings too. Please try to discuss individual points here, instead of simply undoing a great amount of work done by others. I'm waiting. De Wikischim (talk) 11:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * An example of a linguistic error which you've just put back for the second or third time: lot of attacks on the rescue organisations has taken place  (a better word choice would be a lot of or lots of, I've chosen the last option). This morning I had added some other verifiable info which you deleted by simply putting an older version back. Furthermore, can you explain why Save the Children's official statement must be split into two separate paragraphs? De Wikischim (talk) 11:18, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

 * OK, I'll wait for some minutes now to let you go ahead, but I do not accept that you're ruining the info I added and other improvements. So those changes will be put back again shortly. De Wikischim (talk) 11:21, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Let's not jump into how much your work was lost because I literally had to rewrite the article from scratch and your edits did the following:

 * 1) diff=4378229&oldid=4378226 It breaks the continuity (and that happens to be the first edit you make, and per the wiki software, I have to deal with things from ground zero) We can break the official statement, this article deals with stopping the services, and not the attack, so it was important to tell that in the lede. But talking about when they are going to continue is for background information, which goes for the bottom of the pyramid, and helps connecting to the other attacks, and finding a link between them. With the other part of statement not at bottom, the last paragraph feels out of place.
 * 2) diff=next&oldid=4378230 taken care of.
 * 3) diff=next&oldid=4378230 added the info about basement -- could not find how they escaped, with only available statement from the govt. official.
 * 4) diff=next&oldid=4378231 taken care of.
 * 5) diff=next&oldid=4378232 taken care of.
 * 6) diff=next&oldid=4378234 diff=next&oldid=4378234 could not verify.
 * 7) diff=next&oldid=4378241 partly taken care of, and there requires more background information for "ambush", besides, it is too close to source, otherwise.
 * 8) diff=next&oldid=4378243 lede should be used only to introduce the readers answering Ws and Hs for the focus of the article. If the article was about the attack, that would be meaningful, for service stoppage, it isn't.
 * 9) diff=next&oldid=4378245 there is one source claiming it was suicide car explosion however, the minister/spokesperson said nothing about finding a sixth body, so avoiding ambigious claims.

Seems I answered everything. •–• 11:41, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry but to my idea, this is mainly your own opinion on how this article should be. For example, the info about the people who were rescued from the basement can simply be found back in Guardian, as well as the fact they escaped through a back exit. That latter info was already in the article even yesterday. First you delete it, and then you ask here how they've escaped? De Wikischim (talk) 11:46, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * actually, go ahead. Do what you want. I don’t care. You are not clear about the focus or have any idea about the need of continuous and proper flow. Do what you want. 223.237.197.23 (talk) 12:14, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Nice, thanks a lot for letting me go ahead. Meanwhile I have restored most of the relevant info you had earlier deleted. I also noticed again some newly introduced language errors and some older ones which I had already corrected before - it's apparently you who put them back afterwards. De Wikischim (talk) 12:24, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

 * Acagastya writes above: this article deals with stopping the services, and not the attack » incorrect, this article deals with BOTH. These two news events are so heavily intertwined that they cannot be discussed separately. (However, if someone else still wants to write a separate article on the attack itself - just go ahead). De Wikischim (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * you don’t know how to segregate it. Your focus is not clear. And you still think you know what you are doing. •–• 18:47, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Can someone else (user:SVTCobra, user:Pi zero) comment on this too please? Is it really such a serious problem that the article now focuses both on the ISIL attack and the withdrawal of Save the Children from Afghanistan which is an immediate consequence of the attack? Acagastya's main remark is that I don't have any idea of what I'm doing, which is not really a good basis for further discussion. The other option would be to write two separate articles, but even then they surely must be linked to each other. In my idea, everything is so strongly connected that it is very justified to treat it on one single page. In addition, writing two separate articles would take a lot of extra time. I cannot spend all my time only here. De Wikischim (talk) 20:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see a problem. There seems to be a direct cause and effect linking the two events. --SVTCobra 20:42, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, that's my main point too - thanks for the comment. By the way, the text has been completely re-written since yesterday night. So if there was any copyright infringement at all as you had remarked (which I don't believe, however), then it is fully gone now. De Wikischim (talk) 20:47, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We use the term "copyvio" as a term of art, covering both to copyright infringement proper and similarities that fall under the heading of plagiarism (there's usually no reason to draw a line between the two since either is a reason not to publish). The problem before was quite pronounced, and if you don't understand what the problem was there's nothing to prevent you from doing it again which would be bad (the best that could happen would be that you'd expend reviewer time and effort dealing with your mistake, which you should devoutly wish to avoid doing).  I suggest rereading WN:PILLARS and WN:Plagiarism.  Btw, the problem has not been completely eliminated; mostly, perhaps, but a quick check still flags out at least one or two over-length too-similar passages.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, if you could indicate more exactly the passages that it's about, perhaps I can still re-write them. By the way, sometimes it is just very difficult to tell the same things in 100% different wordings - "real" news sites are sometimes worse on this point. De Wikischim (talk) 22:10, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Indeed, "real" news sites sometimes do things that are Just Awful. Like forgetting to answer "when", as if they'd forgotten it's one of the five Ws.  Although I suspect such small-scale similarities of phrasing between "real" news sites are often because both sites paid to be allowed to use material from the same wire service.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I've now replaced the quote from ISIL with a paraphrase so that it no longer corresponds to the quote as it was formulated elsewhere on news sites. De Wikischim (talk) 22:41, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Why does the title need to include the word "organisation"? Green Giant (talk) 23:01, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not clear for a general international audience what Save the Children is. --Pi zero (talk) 01:35, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't find this addition in the title necessary either (comparable to saying "US president Donald Trump" etc.). On the other hand, this is not such a big issue for me. De Wikischim (talk) 08:49, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I was just curious because I know the charity quite well but Pi zero's explanation is good enough for me. Green Giant (talk) 10:05, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


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Cheers, --SVTCobra 05:43, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Who called for the bandh?
 * "The people"? Surely, not everyone is of the same mindset.
 * "observing" bandh. Is it not true that shops close, not willingly, but because they would get smashed by those who called the bandh?
 * you do realise Mysore is not in northern Karnataka, and they would do it on serious note for Kaveri— of course, only if you about the geography, or read what ex-Cm said (you can find it in the article) 182.19.57.115 (talk) 07:37, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Also, Bangalore, which is a city with population size in 10^6 (and not even in North Karnataka, which is severely affected) — all people came together for a bandh. Self explanatory that different people were willing to stop activities for a day. Also; just to let you know, Netravati and Kaveri do not get support from each other. That poster quote tells one why. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 07:58, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * So you are saying that there's is not a single person there who is loyal to BJP? Sounds dubious. Still, the article should state who called the bandh. Why did they need to deploy 15,000 police if there was no threat of violence and everyone was in complete agreement? --SVTCobra 12:44, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * When there is a bandh -- there are certain instances where protestors vandalise. I have seen it happen. Threat to violence -- it is not guaranteed, you can see that. And in complete agreement does not mean one is not free to carry on their business -- the TTT 2018, which is in Mysore started on 25th, and most of the participants arrived via Bangalore -- which is a great example to tell that why some people were out during a bandh. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 22:21, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You were asking who called for the bandh. The best answer available seems to be in our third paragraph.  --Pi zero (talk) 04:10, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Times of India seem to pin it down on a single political activist, namely who is definitely Kannada affiliated. --SVTCobra 04:29, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hm. Anything agreed on by Kannada groups would likely go, at some point, through the person who's the head of the umbrella group. --Pi zero (talk) 14:47, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

ToI has published misleading incorrect information several times and it is not reliable, to be honest. 223.237.255.84 (talk) 15:20, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Vatal Nagaraj is mentioned in several of the listed sources. It seems odd not to mention the vocal leader of a political faction in an article about their activities. It also seems odd not to mention that the bandh was set to coincide with BJP president Amit Shah's rally. It is mentioned in 6 of 8 listed sources (Twitter omitted in count). It seems to be a major contention that the bandh is not just about the river water. --SVTCobra 16:32, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ...which calls into question who is responsible for it happening? --Pi zero (talk) 17:19, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The story feels pro-Kannada. It doesn't represent both sides. Omitting the leader makes it seem like a noble undertaking by the people. Also, bandh are considered illegal by the Supreme Court of India, but that, too, is not mentioned. --SVTCobra 17:34, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Can you submit an edit or two to address this concern? Often one or two gentle additions will mitigate such a difficulty.  (I didn't feel it was pro-Kannada so much as describing observable consequences rather than getting into the aspects you mention, but that doesn't mean the article mightn't be improved by some straightforward factual additions.  If I spent my afternoon on this as well I might devise something, but I want to attend this afternoon to other articles as well.)  --Pi zero (talk) 17:50, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * OK. I will have to read the sources more in-depth than I have so far. Also, I need to run to the store. Give me 90 minutes +/-. --SVTCobra 18:09, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I added two tiny paragraphs. I tried to insert them best I could without breaking any flow. They can be moved around if you so choose. I annotated which sources (I did not add any sources) that the information can be found in. Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:01, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

A bandh is not illegal. But what happened in Mumbai, recently, what are the reasons and objectives and the way a protest happens — all those factors contributes to what is permitted. The quote discussing about Ballari schools would remain closed says it was what Farmer Association wanted. Taking the credit from many farmers in north Karnataka and giving it to one political leader, that is not a good thing to do. Just like a million things happening, including the Wikimedia TTT that day — just because two political parties who don’t go well together doesn’t mean it is totally in context. Look at the BJP4Karnataka’s (I assume that is what their handle name was) tweets — just like how an angry thirteen year old would whine. BJP’s reaction and all of that part calls for a different focus and a different story. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 01:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No? And also tl;dr on your farmer discussion. Please see this and this. The functional quote from that is: "On 6th January, 2010 Gauhati High Court declared that “Bandh” is illegal and unconstitutional."
 * That does not mean that 'bandh' is not a continuing practice and effective protest. It simply means that, de juris it is illegal and de facto it still exists. Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Oops, Gauhati is only regional, but per the "Supreme Court, a bandh interferes with the exercise of the Fundamental freedoms of other citizens, in addition to causing national loss in many ways. The Fundamental Right of the people as a whole cannot be regarded as subservient to a claim of Fundamental Rights of an individual, or of a section of the people. The Supreme Court has now declared the reason why bandh should be banned." I can't tell if the Supreme Court said that in 2013 or if the site added it in 2013. --SVTCobra 02:19, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I live in this quasi federal country and I know how it . Just weeks ago, there was a non-peaceful protest in Maharashtra where SC’s ruling comes into picture. Not this. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 02:23, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, don't stress. Nothing was added to the article about the legal status of bandh. Who or what is SC, btw? --SVTCobra 02:28, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * More than a billion people in the world have heard about Supreme Court. Your country has one. Reminds me of the BBC. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 03:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, SC=Supreme Court. We call ours SCOTUS, probably because we have SC (South Carolina). Well, why doesn't the Supreme Court's ruling apply? I am genuinely interested. Is it because of that quasi-federal thing you mentioned before? How much of the constitution applies to your part of the country? --SVTCobra 03:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Why is edit limited for autoconfirmed users? 182.19.57.115 (talk) 01:28, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've enabled IP editing, since you ask. We had some rather aggressive vandalism of the project recently.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:39, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * just like how you would not protect a template just because it might be vandalised, I don’t think you should protect the page until it is vandalised. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 02:01, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Bakery question
Just to satisfy my curiosity, the photo of the bakery with the shutters down while customers are inside and protesters outside, that means the bakery was not observing bandh, right? They were just pretending to be closed until potential trouble-makers were gone, right? Did you ask the shopkeeper how he felt about the bandh? Cheers, --SVTCobra 02:35, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I believe I can not disclose that detail publicly without breaking the journalistic code of ethics. 182.19.57.115 (talk) 03:21, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * True. But what is the point of not writing about it in your journalism? I mean, you can hide the name of the shop and the shopkeeper, but a journalist's job is to tell the story, yes? --SVTCobra 03:48, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I regularly visit that bakery, and there are a lot of things that I know, because I am a customer and not because I asked on the behalf of Wikinews. There comments/opinions would be pointless unless I tell their origin, and other details which I know because of a friendly chat. You can see my classmate in one of the photos, and a lot of people know about me, and the so called "anonymity" will be no less than an illusion. However I can interview them…and some others, like the local basket weavers, and the people who earn money in a daily basis and whose lives seems to be affected a lot by a bandh. 223.237.249.225 (talk) 10:47, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don’t know if I am allowed to do that, but I feel if Wikinews can interview Diego Grez after an earthquake, this should not be unacceptable. 223.237.249.225 (talk) 10:49, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * We do want to be careful. Not every precedent in the archives is a good one.  Which said, I don't know, first-hand, one way or another about measures taken when that particular interview was conducted (on IRC?); I wasn't involved in the article's production in any capacity.  It seems as if the interview was not conducted by people who know Diego Grez irl, since I'm pretty sure Diego was at the time the only Chilean Wikinewsie.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:51, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * true. But instead of thinking about why it is not a good idea, we can think about what measures to take to have one of such — considering the upcoming bandh in February 4, in a manner that article stands on the pillars. 223.237.206.41 (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


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India: Karnataka closed for a day for protests over Mahadayi river share

January 27, 2018 On Wednesday, various cities in the Indian state of Karnataka observed, as people protested for central government to sort out the dispute of water share for the , also known as Mahadayi, which has been going on for decades. Bus service in Karnataka's capital Bangalore was at a complete halt, however, the  was not strictly followed in southern parts of Karnataka, including in Mysore.

The 77 kilometer (about 48 mile) river originates in northern Karnataka, and flows through Goa. Almost two thirds of the river's length is in Goa. Requests for 7.6 billion cubic feet (about 175,000 ) of river water to be released to, , and  districts were made by Karnataka government for seventeen years. There were plans for Karnataka to build canals for storing water for those four districts, which are prone to drought, which were stopped by judge JN Panchal in July 2016, asserting the affects on environment.

As a result of bandh, various schools and colleges announced a holiday, and postponed their exams. Deputy Commissioner Ramprasath Manohar said, "Schools and colleges in district of Karnataka will remain closed in the light of the state-wide bandh called by the pro- organisations and farmers' welfare associations".

Indian Medical Association wore a black band for the support, as the medical services we not interrupted in Banglaore, nor were services. Hotels remained open at some places. Movie cinemas and malls were also to stay closed.

Kannada actor uploaded a video on Twitter saying, "First of all, all political parties must stop politicising it. We Kannadigas have a right over the water that flows past Kalasa Banduri. In a democracy, once a political party comes to power, it is no longer just a political party, but a party that is duty-bound to work for the people it represents. Any party that keeps saying — 'our party is ruling at the Centre, so we will take the water through political means' — is telling a blatant lie. This is a pro-people agitation. Please don't do politics over people's fundamental rights. My request to all parties — please leave your political ideologies aside, put aside these attempts to beg for votes. We must come together and stand together to put pressure for our rightful share in the water. Let's agitate and ensure our rights are given to us."

The (BJP) claimed the timing of the bandh was a political ploy to distract from party president 's scheduled rally on the same day in Mysore.

, who heads the pro-Kannada umbrella group Kannada Okoota which called the bandh, thanked public and private organisations for their observance of the bandh and claimed it was "total" across Karnataka. He said he visited different parts of the city Thursday morning.

Speaking to, Deryk Natto, the managing director of Goa's state bus service Kadamba Transport Corporation Limited, said, "The services to Karnataka have been suspended for a day due to the strike called by them. The services will resume once the strike is called off". 23 buses bound to Karnataka were suspended.

Due to the strikes, traffic in Bangalore was lesser than usual. Unlike the case with buses, service in Bengaluru was functioning. A spokesperson of the metro service said, "If and only if there is a hindrance to safety of the passengers, we will inform the police and stop services." Police arrested protestors at the who attempted to disrupt the railway facilities. 15000 police officials were assigned for security measures in Bangalore alone.

In Mysore, a number of shops were open at 10:30 AM, and there was usual traffic. Pharmaceutical shops remained open, however, some shops were closed. Protesters forced some shops to close, but classes in The continued. Former Chief Minister B.S. Yeddyurappafew said a few days ago, "We fully support the Mahadayi project. There is no need for a bandh. Bandh is only needed in the areas where people are suffering."

A person from told Wikinews there was no effect of bandh in Mangalore, and some restaurants and hotels had posters, which roughly translate, ".

A bandh is scheduled on February 4, when Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi is to address a BJP rally in Bangalore.


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 * Oh good, thank you! As was noted in the review of my last article, I'd fallen into a pattern of repetitive "According to ...", so I went too far in trying to correct that. Sorry. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2018 (UTC)


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USA Gymnastics board resigning after sex abuse

January 29, 2018

On Friday, (USAG) — the  national governing body for the sport of gymnastics — issued a statement that it will comply with an ultimatum for its entire board to resign. The (USOC) issued the ultimatum, in the wake of the sentencing on Wednesday of  for sex abuse, that the entire USAG board must resign within six days or face decertification as the gymnastics national governing body.

On Wednesday, Larry Nassar was sentenced to prison for 40 to 175 years on seven counts of sexual abuse. He is alleged to have well more than 150 victims, however, with a history of sexual abuse of minors going back more than a decade. Nassar served as the team physician for USA Gymnastics in a career that spanned four. He abused female members of the gymnastics team under pretense of treating them.

On Thursday, Scott Blackmun, head for the USOC, sent a letter to the USAG board, listing a set of demands. "[W]hile the USOC encourages USA Gymnastics to think and act broadly on reforming its culture, we also believe that reform must start with an entirely new board", Blackmun wrote. "We do not base these requirements on any knowledge that any individual USAG staff or board members had a role in fostering or obscuring Nassar's actions. Our position comes from a clear sense that USAG culture needs fundamental rebuilding."

Although three members of the board had already resigned two days before Nassar's sentencing, Blackmun insisted on a "categorically fresh start at the board level." The letter gives the USAG board until January 31 to resign. By February 28 a new interim board with athlete representation must be seated. Blackmun also outlined a number of additional steps demanded by USOC or face immediate decertification. These include fully cooperating with independent investigations into the Nassar case, ethics training for all staff and board members, and "SafeSport" anti-abuse (i.e. bullying, harassment, hazing) training.

On Friday, USAG issued the statement on its website, saying it intends to comply: "USA Gymnastics supports the United States Olympic Committee's letter and accepts the absolute need of the Olympic family to promote a safe environment for all of our athletes. We agree with the USOC's statement that the interests of our athletes and clubs, and their sport, may be better served by moving forward with meaningful change within our organization, rather than decertification. USA Gymnastics supports an independent investigation that may shine light on how abuse of the proportion described so courageously by the survivors of Larry Nassar could have gone undetected for so long and embraces any necessary and appropriate changes. USA Gymnastics and the USOC have the same goal — making the sport of gymnastics, and others, as safe as possible for athletes to follow their dreams in a safe, positive and empowered environment."


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