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Astronomers report dwarf star with unexpectedly giant planet

November 3, 2017 In findings reported on Tuesday, an international team of astronomers discovered an exoplanet, called, revolving around star NGTS-1, that the team said does not fit existing notions of how stars and planets form. NGTS-1b is a, similar to Jupiter and of comparable volume and mass, but its parent star is about half the diameter and mass of the Sun, making this the most massive planet orbiting an M-dwarf ever discovered.

NGTS-1b, about 600 from the Earth, is so extremely close to its star that a revolution around its star takes only about 2.6 Earth days — 2.647298 ± 0.000020 — and its surface temperature is about 800. The planet was discovered by observing periodic fluctuations in the star's apparent brightness as NGTS-1b passed in front of it. NGTS-1b's mass is less than Jupiter, about 0.812 (mass of Jupiter), but it has greater volume, with radius about 1.33  (radius of Jupiter). Its density was reported to be 0.42 -3 (with error: +0.59 to -0.28), meaning Jupiter, whose density is 1.326 g cm-3, is likely around thrice as dense as the exoplanet.

"The discovery of NGTS-1b was a complete surprise to us," said lead author Doctor Daniel Bayliss of the, in. "[S]uch massive planets were not thought to exist around such small stars. This is the first exoplanet we have found with our new NGTS facility and we are already challenging the received wisdom of how planets form."

The existing understanding of planetary formation, the team explained, says small stars can produce rocky planets but cannot pull in enough mass for larger, gaseous ones like NGTS-1b. Based on the observations, NGTS-1's radius is 0.573±0.077 (solar radius) and using that value, astronomers calculated its weight to be about 0.598  (solar mass). The star's density is almost ten times of the gas giant, 4.4 (with error: +2.4 to -1.4) g cm-3. In comparison, the Sun's density is 1.409 g cm-3.

The research team discovered NGTS-1b using the (NGTS), an array of telescopes physically located in Chile, which was designed to search for planets around bright stars. NGTS-1 is a relatively dim red M-dwarf, which are very common in the universe, of 15.52 ± 0.08. University of Warwick professor Peter Wheatley, who runs the NGTS, said, "NGTS-1b was difficult to find, despite being a monster of a planet, because its parent star is small and faint. Small stars are actually the most common in the universe, so it is possible there are many of these giant planets waiting to be found."

To date, scientists have discovered only three gas giants which revolves around M-dwarf stars. The other two are Kepler-45b and HATS-6b which have masses 0.505 MJ and 0.32 MJ respectively.


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Isn't that a blog website? Is it reliable? acagastya PING ME! 08:53, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I asked myself the same question, so I checked its about us page and it looked okay. This is the part I found particularly useful: "Geller regularly provides expert analysis for acclaimed news programs on networks such as CNBC, CNN, Bloomberg, and NBC News, and BGR has been quoted by countless globally recognized media outlets including The New York Times, CNN, The Wall Street Journal, MSNBC, TIME Magazine, Barron’s, Los Angeles Times and many others." On Wikipedia, this would be considered an expert self-published source.
 * While it might be worthwhile to give BGR Wikinews' stamp of approval or disapproval for future articles, it's not that big of a deal for this one because there are more sources available if we need to replace it. For now, the Fox News source is independent of both others. Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:42, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * For utmost clarity: This article needs a minimum of two sources. I say Eurekalert and Fox do that.  Consider BGR an extra. Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:51, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Your "one extra" approach is not okay. It must be used. I assume you would have, but it must not be there just for "an extra." FOX, lol! acagastya PING ME! 16:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)

 * I don't mean extra as in extraneous or unnecessary, Acagastya. I drew information from all three sources.  BGR had information that the other two did not. Darkfrog24 (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The way you say it matters. I don't know if you had done something like that in the past or not, but when you say it like this, it is worrying. But we haven't discussed about trustworthiness/reliability of BGR yet. acagastya PING ME! 17:41, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The page you link is BGR's self-description. I would expect  to describe itself as reliable.  I've not yet applied myself to this (just atm I can't get to it before morning at least, ten or eleven hours from now), and I agree it's a good sign, but we're going to need broader perspective with which to assess it.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:51, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * That sounds reasonable. Would you like to do it separately?  I realize time's a factor, but I could remove the content supported by BGR from this article while we abscond to another page to evaluate BGR as a source.  I'm a little busy right this minute, so I'll only do it if you think it would help.  I don't have the budget for six-to-one-half-a-dozen-to-the-other right now. Darkfrog24 (talk) 04:36, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

 * I found the MediaBias.com review of BGR: It talks about using loaded words when discussing political matters, nothing we don't routinely extract when dealing with traditional print media. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:55, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

 * Also of some interest: .  --Pi zero (talk) 16:54, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

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This headline does not tell anything unique, special, or newsworthy. To be honest, it reads like a click bait headlines. But this article was renamed because the previous version didn't simplify things, and the way that was presented, that was horrible. I wouldn't have clicked on it even if I was paid for it. It is not how a news headline should be. Moreover, it's lede, or even the whole article fails to tell what is the unique thing, and why is it newsworthy. Please go through the comments and improve the article. acagastya PING ME! 13:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see the click-bait thing, myself. "You won't believe what this dwarf and giant have been doing together!" is click bait; it's trying to draw clicks under false pretences.  The current headline intends, I think, to tell people what the article is about, so they can make an intelligent decision about whether they're interested to read more.  I asked someone here what they thought of the headline, without telling them any details of objections raised, and they said it made them want to read the article.  The flaw in the current headline, I think, is that it's not describing an event, rather it's describing a state of affairs.  It doesn't indicate that some specific event happened.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:42, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Click bait isn't necessarily limited to "X did Y" -- if Indian media is good at something, they are, in writing such headline -- they would skip important things which should be mentioned in headline. And this headline does similar -- making readers think wonder why are astronomers puzzled. It might be just in front of our eyes, "Dwarf star has giant planet", but, so what? That does not sound anything like unique, or news. The problem is magnified since the article also fails to explain the picture. acagastya PING ME! 16:53, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you're reacting to the difference between "this is unexpected" (which the article does talk a bit about in the second paragraph) and "this is puzzling" (which would seem to require rather more supporting detail in the article)? --Pi zero (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Even for that, there should be some fact which make this "newsworthy". Is there a theoretical limit for the ratio? It the ratio significantly larger than the next pair, if yes, by how much. Why can't small stars have large planets? How large is that planet, how small is that star? Without those figures, we are not reporting the more important facts, which anyone would want to know for these articles. acagastya PING ME! 17:19, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

1) I'm not asking you to change the new title. I think it's better than the old one because it's less awkward. 2) This goes back to the issue of how science news differs from other news. The truly important event was millions of years ago when the planet formed. Even if we treat the event as the discovery and release of this information to the public, the point is that the planet is there and has been for a long time. Most of the events we talk about on Wikinews have to do with a change of some kind. Puerto Rico changed from an undamaged place to a hurricane-damaged place. Donald Trump changed from someone who wasn't a president to someone who is. Kim Jong Nam and Debbie Reynolds changed from alive to dead. From a human perspective, this planet was always there; we just didn't know about it. Most scientific work is like that, learning what the world is in the present tense. "The weird planet is there" seems a lot more important (and concise) to me than "human beings changed from not knowing to knowing the weird planet is there." Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:41, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Whatever the above paragraph is trying to say, why is the "discovery" newsworthy? There are objects discovered every day. What particularly was notable in this case to make it news when you had no supporting information to share? acagastya PING ME! 01:18, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * "No supporting information"? Don't exaggerate. I could believe that information that you happened to want or believed would improve the article was not among the information provided.  Exaggerating gets in the way of meaningful discussion because it makes it harder to take you seriously when people really ought to.
 * To take an example, "Why wouldn't a small star have a large planet," look at the first sentence of the second paragraph. Perhaps you missed it the first few times through. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:58, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I had read the article multiple times. There is no information about what type of star it revolves around. It is possible for a neutron star to have planets revolving around it. After all, density are escape velocity have a linear relation. Supporting information would be what are the dimensions of that planet and the star, what was the gravitational pull, mass or lux. It is rather odd for such article not to mention these facts. If you find exaggerating, the only conclusion I can make is that you do not think about answering the questions a reader would wonder about, after reading the article. NOte: even mentioning the type of star does not necessarily explain why that can not happen [else we won't have this article]. Can you answer why the astronomers believed that system could not exist? acagastya PING ME! 02:22, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

 * There is no information about what type of star it revolves around: The article reads "NGTS-1b's star, though, is a relatively dim red M-dwarf" and "its parent star is small and faint."
 * That's what I mean by exaggeration. "There is no information" is not literally true. What you meant was probably more like "I feel this article would be much better if it listed lux and escape velocity and other specific numerical stats." That's perfectly legitimate.  But it takes a double-take for me stop and figure out that you don't mean it literally—in my post above I thought you just hadn't seen the information.  After all, if I was tired when I first wrote it, maybe you were tired when you read it. Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:42, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

If you can not explain things in your article, or if the article isn't ready, do not submit it. There is still no explanation about why they believed it was not possible. Until and unless the article answers it, I would feel this is another random "heavenly body" discovered. acagastya PING ME! 02:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * There is still no explanation about why they believed it was not possible The article reads "[small stars] cannot not pull in enough mass."
 * Now if you feel that could have been expressed more clearly or highlighted brighter, that's one thing, and you're of course welcome to make any improvements yourself, but I did make sure the article was presentable when submitted for review. Darkfrog24 (talk) 05:04, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Darkfrog24, you know the escape velocity is independent of the radius of the star, right? Neutron stars, on the order of 10 kilometres can have planets. It is the density which comes into picture. Small XYS can not pull PQR is factually incorrect without mentioning the density. Think about all those eleventh grade students who would be wondering if what you wrote is true, because they studied something else in their physics class. acagastya PING ME! 14:54, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

I recall you've said similar things before, about the "important" event being something in the far past. No; that's a serious misconception. There is not some "truly important event" far in the past. There is a focal event in the recent past, of which you are taking a snapshot. There can be lots and lots of stuff about the far past (well, claims about the far past, anyway), but the organizing principle of the news article, starting with making it news at all rather than encyclopedic, is the focal event. Learn to think of the whole structure in terms of how everything relates to the focal event. I'm remembering something from several decades ago... this probably won't help, but I'll mention it anyway. had some advice, long ago (in an excellent monthly column called Programming on Purpose), on ways to structure a computer program. As best I recall (I could look this up if I weren't so lazy, as I have every issue of the long-gone magazine it was in), he described writing a diagram of how data flows between the major modules of the program, and then, he said, to derive a top-down structure for the program, take hold of that graph by any particular module and give it a good hard shake, so the whole diagram ends up being a with at the top (the "root node") of it that one module you were holding onto. Voila; top-down structure. My point is this. Organizing a news article around a focal event is a little — at least, a little — like that. With, no doubt, lots of obvious differences, starting with the fact that Plauger's metaphor involved choosing an arbitrary module, whereas with a news story there's probably only one best choice of focal event at a given time. But it's still, arguably, true that you take the network of related parts that make up the content of the news story, pick it up by the focal event, and give it a good hard shake to get a structure depending from the focal event. (I have this pessimistic vision that I'll be trying to clear up misunderstandings from this metaphor for ages, but I thought I'd give it a try.) --Pi zero (talk) 01:34, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Must be the conversation on this page, Talk:Telegram introduces unsend messages and data usage statistics features acagastya  PING ME! 01:51, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

 * EDIT CONFLICT: I think the reason we keep coming back to this is that other news outlets, though they do do it for political and sports news, don't use that model for scientific discoveries. It's not clear why Wikinews would.  With features and editorials, I suppose it's the neutrality element of Proejct Wiki overall, but none of that seems to apply here. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:58, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

 * Msm coverage of science is terrible. We strive to avoid mistakes/weaknesses of msm; I recall thinking, on various occasions in the past when you've remarked on the comparison/contrast between us and msm, that you've overestimated how different we are from the highest ideals of professional journalism (granted we're a wiki and there are some consequences of that), but we're not msm wannabes here. But evidently you're failing to get the message I'm sending.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * If you remember the other articles that I've drafted, you will realize that I understand what a focal point is and can use the concept effectively. The issue is that I don't believe it applies to science news in the same way as to politics and sports, not with your ability to describe the idea, if that's what you meant by "message I'm sending."
 * What do you see as the weaknesses of MSM on science news? I'm talking publications like the ones we use as sources, Guardian, NYT's science times, and so on. (I don't see treating science news differently from other types of news as a weakness.  If science news were held to the same standards of freshness and focal events, none would ever appear in general-audience publications.) Darkfrog24 (talk) 02:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I wonder if you consider the announcement/publication of the study as the focal point or not. Because if you do, I don't think there is a need of an exception for freshness. acagastya PING ME! 02:34, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't consider it the focal event, but I understand that you and Pi zero do, so I usually structure the articles accordingly. To me, treating the date of publication as a focal event feels like a patch or workaround. 02:44, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

so according to you, "Snowden revealing what NSA was doing" was never a focal event? acagastya PING ME! 02:47, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No, it is. I consider human-culture things that people have kept a secret to be different from facts about the universe that were always there.  A whistle-blower revealing secrets is also a lot rarer than scientists publishing the findings of routine research (even when the discovery is groundbreaking, the process is usually routine), though I'm not sure "rare" is quite what I'm going for. Darkfrog24 (talk) 04:57, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * You know I've been paying attention to your articles, in fact I've been scrutinizing them — that's the nature of review — and you see that I haven't come to the conclusion you have a solid grasp on the focal event principle. Now you say to acagastya, "I don't consider it the focal event, but I understand that you and Pi zero do"; what that shows is that you don't get the principle.  You're misunderstanding what an article focus is.  And I've just tried to explain it to you and it seems you weren't even aware that that was what I was trying to do — which tbh makes perfect sense:  I'm trying to explain something to you that you don't understand, and it's not working because you're unaware that you don't understand.  You've stopped moving forward in your Wikinewsie skills on this and a number of other fronts, and it really seems part of the trouble is that your shortcomings in those areas aren't visible to you.  I don't know how to help with that, if there is any way to help; you're an immensely valuable contributor, either way (do you have any idea — well, I suspect you do — how beyond price it is on a volunteer wiki to have someone who looks for ways to sneak in time to contribute?), but you would be yet more valuable for getting past this hurdle.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:04, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I got that you were trying to explain what a focal event was using a computer programming metaphor. I'm not a programmer, so the metaphor doesn't mean much to me.  I just mentally subbed in your previous posts on the matter.
 * This reminds me of something that happened at grad school. To paraphrase, I asked a professor "what's an apple" and got a seven-minute speech about apple pie that didn't include "an apple is a kind of fruit." Well, you're doing a lot better than that guy, and it's not even your job to teach things.
 * I'm not a computer programmer, so let's go with what I am. Why not define the term as you see it, with a definition made out of words?
 * "A funnel opening is an introductory paragraph or group of sentences that starts with a wide-ranging or even vague reference to of the core concept and then grows more specific until it has contracted to the specific matter at hand." Like that. I didn't say what a funnel opening was like or why it was important or what it reminded me of.  I said what it is.  I didn't dwell and try to get the definition perfect, I just did it in one go.  So in your own view, Pi zero, what is a focal event?
 * Like with the water cooler discussion of freshness, if we define what it is, we can translate it for science news. Darkfrog24 (talk) 04:57, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

 * Turns out that the density of the star was more than the Sun, and density of the planet was almost a third of Jupiter. "Massive planet", "dwarf star". I think I should expect you to comment about the inverse square law, and give credit to radius. But, I could not find the distance. So, I did what I could, more than I should. You still have time to explain why such it could not "pull" now that the density is mentioned. acagastya PING ME! 17:08, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * That's odd. What did you think was left out?
 * You are correct about why I did not use the paper itself this time. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:32, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Dumbing down is a relative word. While I was writing that Kazakh article, some things were too obvious for me but it might not be for someone else. Or for triple talaq, that explanation would be "dumbing down" for those who know about it. But for those who does not know, it is important information which, if not provided, does not make sense. (Another example, explaining how electoral college works for Donald Trump's article.) Dumbing down should not omit details. And it is better to frame it such that it does not feel like dumbing down to the people who already know about it. acagastya  PING ME! 01:23, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, things tend to involve adding explanations. Darkfrog24 (talk) 01:58, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

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what about those sources I had used, but Date of Access was after the date of publication? acagastya PING ME! 09:53, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

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June 13, 2017
Speedy deleted as prepared article where the event happen more than 5 days ago. Any major media coverage on the Comey memo would have been months ago. —mikemoral (talk) 07:40, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikinews:Story preparation/Evidence of bias: Media coverage of Comey memos
Created in November 2016, about seven months ago. Has not developed since then. The article discusses Hilary Clinton and email circus stuff. I don't see the purpose of keeping it other than... prize possession or something. --George Ho (talk) 01:46, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

May 8, 2017
Creating user nominating for speedy deletion under A7. PokestarFan (talk) 19:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

"7. Self-requests by the author with no third-party edit history."

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 * I'm in agreement with the nominator. --Pi zero (talk) 14:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

March 31, 2017

 * Article was deleted already. —mikemoral (talk) 20:18, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Why do children keep dying?
Sandbox testing, very obvious. PokestarFan (talk) 23:22, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

March 14, 2017

 * Taken care of. --Pi zero (talk) 12:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Upacking List
Non-newsworthy advert. --Cabayi (talk) 15:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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 * Not to worry. The author requested temporary undeletion so they could retrieve their work, and now that it is done, I'll delete it again and all will be well.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:17, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

June 16, 2016

 * Delete; the abandonment process got there first in this case. --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

La Fest
This appears to be some article that might belong on Wikipedia if it were not so promotional. This does not seem newsworthy at all. --Peter SamFan (talk) 14:09, 16 June 2016 (UTC).

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 * Not news, promotional and encyclopedia-like. –  Nascar1996  ( talk • cont ) 14:26, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yup. --Pi zero (talk) 16:47, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

June 7, 2016

 * Delete --Pi zero (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Brainwash of Sikhs
User working on this doesn't seem able to take a hint that we're not an encyclopedia, nor a platform for what might-well be construed as some sort of 'conspiracy theory'. I am hoping a DR will get the message across - or simply see us rid of the page. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * Whilst the usual is to run a DR for seven days, I simply can't see this changing from consensus to remove the offending page. I've no problem whatsoever if that means someone simply closes this and removes the page; the only reason I've not done so is having been the nominator. --Brian McNeil / talk 08:30, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

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 * useless. --Brian McNeil / talk 20:22, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * as is, it's an opinion piece. To get from what it is to a news article would be a complete replacement of content, together with a completely different headline.  See .  Probably the article would simply become abandoned and get deleted in the normal course, but a formal deletion process will save argument in case that wouldn't happen on schedule.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * per above. –  Nascar1996  ( talk • cont ) 21:14, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
 * as completely unsuitable material for this website. Bencherlite (talk) 16:37, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Unnecessary controversial opinions which is not news. acagastya 16:49, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

December 30, 2017

 * Deleted. --Pi zero (talk) 22:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Not that it matters, but, looks to me as if the mainspace page is a ; only other thing by same user, yes, but the mainspace page was created in May and promptly deleted by DragonFire1024 as spam, whilst the image was uploaded in July. --Pi zero (talk) 12:13, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete - per my own nomination. --SVTCobra 22:55, 30 December 2017 (UTC).
 * Delete it is well established that Commons is to serve as the repository for free media, with the exceptions of logos and maps which can change with time. (However, I cannot see EXIF data for an own work, and it is possible it is a copyvio.) •–• 06:11, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
 * I tried a Google Image search, but I couldn't find a copy that was not on a Wiki project. If it was demonstrably a copy-vio, I would have speedy deleted it. However, I think the lack of EXIF data is likely due to it probably being a non-digital photograph that was then scanned. --SVTCobra 19:16, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

 * Delete; it serves us no news function to justify hosting it here, and as it's proposed for movement from Wikipedia to Commons anyway (haven't quite figured out how nominator noticed that), there's no loss to the sisterhood in deleting it here, either. --Pi zero (talk) 11:59, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm, that's how! ... No, it was Google's image search function. It is scary good; it analyzes the image and can find any other copy of it, even if it as been resized. --SVTCobra 12:12, 8 January 2018 (UTC)


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 * 4) Volkswagen CEO resigns after emissions scandal
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 * 2) Football: Wigan 1-3 Bolton Wanderers
 * 3) English FA Cup third round draw
 * 4) English Premier League: Week 33 round-up
 * 5) English Football: Roundup for Easter weekend
 * 6) English Premier League: Week 32 round-up
 * 7) Wolverhampton Wanderers relegated from English Premier League
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 * 4) Netherlands ease to 1-0 win in Group C
 * 5) Ancient neanderthal protein sequenced
 * 6) Apes and birds are able to plan ahead: psychologists
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 * If we have enough articles for a category about the capital, it looks like it can reasonably be called .  --Pi zero (talk) 13:04, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
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 * ✅ Except #8 (to which I added Manchester United) and #9. Those two are not about this club and the name is only mentioned as the next matchup for another club. --SVTCobra 20:37, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * Creating the redirect makes sense but you could have done that yourself, however, wikifying the articles would be much more time-consuming, which would slow down the process of populating the category. Also, it is my understanding that Pi zero has an on-going systematic project of going through the entire archive for the purpose of wikifying. Didn't want to interfere with that project. --SVTCobra 17:27, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikifying is a big task, yes. One of my major candidates for semi-automation (and I've discussed it with Gryllida too, so there's more than one vector from which a device for that task might come).  But, if you do feel like wikifying the occasional article in our archives, surely don't let my long-term project discourage you!  It's not like we have a shortage of articles to wikify so we have to ration them.  It's a very welcome discovery, when I go to wikify the articles from a given day, to find that some of them have already been done.  I sometimes do drive-by wikifyings here and there myself.  My only caveat would be, if there's a local target and the article isn't in the target category but should be (or, it's not clear whether or not it should be), either add the category, or use w so the matter is flagged out to be revisited eventually.  Laziness is a sufficient reason for leaving a w for now instead of adding the category.  --Pi zero (talk) 17:48, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
 * yes, I can do it now. I could not have done it before the category was populated because that would lead readers to empty category which “makes Wikinews look ugly”. I think it is better if the one undertaking the categorisation work creates after populating so that we don’t forget. Recently, I have started listing the redirects to be created — but these things, I guess Pi zero and I had that understanding evolved over time and if you are also going to use the dashboard at testing, I must let you know about the tasks which are expected to be done so that nothing remains incomplete and we don’t need to spend more time in future. •–• 20:46, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

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acagastya PING ME! 16:27, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * 1) 2007/08 FA Premier League: Middlesbrough vs. Arsenal
 * 2) English Football: Roundup for Easter weekend
 * 3) English Premier League: Week 33 round-up
 * 4) British student falls to his death from 10th floor window
 * 5) United force replay against 'Boro in FA Cup
 * 6) Chemical Explosion in Billingham
 * 7) Hearse key thief spared prison
 * 8) Accident on set of British television program Heartbeat
 * 9) Minor earthquake shakes England
 * 10) Footballer Adam Johnson arrested on suspicion of sex with under-age girl
 * 11) Claims from British quake may run into "low tens of millions of pounds" - Insurance association reps
 * 12) British House of Commons' Speaker addresses Parliament ahead of vote of no confidence
 * 13) UK holds referendum on voting system
 * 14) 2010 UK general election results
 * 15) Results of 2005 United Kingdom General Election
 * 16) FIFA and European Union are set to collide

 * ✅ (with a couple exceptions) I guess this request wasn't seen until now as there was no flag. --SVTCobra 15:48, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

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Fill this category
 * 1) 2007/08 Bundesliga: Wolfsburg vs. Bayern Munich
 * 2) Fußball-Bundesliga 2008–09: Wolfsburg win first season title
 * 3) Borussia M'Gladbach sacks coach Schubert; appoints Hecking
 * 4) Götze to make Dortmund return, Schürrle completes Dortmund offensive lineup
 * 5) Wolfsburg player draws criticism for withdrawal from squad
 * 6) Fußball-Bundesliga 2007–08: Bayern Munich vs. Wolfsburg
 * 7) Jürgen Klopp signs 3 year contract with Liverpool
 * 8) UEFA Champions League 2015-2016: Draw for Last 16 held at Nyon
 * 9) Football: Leverkusen, Bremen, HSV proceed in DFB Pokal
 * 10) 2009–10 UEFA Champions League: Round of 16 field set
 * 11) Fußball-Bundesliga 2007–08: Matchday 1 roundup
 * 12) 2007/08 Bundesliga: Wolfsburg vs. Hansa Rostock
 * 13) Football: Werder Bremen win DFB-Pokal acagastya  PING ME! 16:52, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I did most of these, excepting two articles where, afaict, the only connection is that a fired Manager's last game had been against VfL Wolfsburg.
 * Borussia M'Gladbach sacks coach Schubert; appoints Hecking
 * Jürgen Klopp signs 3 year contract with Liverpool
 * --Pi zero (talk) 01:33, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * For the first article about M'Gladbach, Hecking was former coach of Wolfsburg, and the article speaks about his accomplishments with the Wolfsburg club. So I think it is perfectly okay for adding the category to that article. For the other one, Klopp's article mentions his last match as Dortmund manager was against Wolfsburg (VfL Wolfsburg wins first DFB Pokal; my fifth article to be deleted) I think the connection is not that strong. If I had chosen to mention the score, it would have been okay. It is border case, but has some importance. It is up to you then. (But we add categories of the manager's former club when they join a new one, see Guardiola to replace Pellegrini as Manchester City manager and Jürgen Klopp signs 3 year contract with Liverpool) •–• 09:30, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I had missed the stronger connections to Wolfsburg in the Gladbach article; have added that one. In the Klopp article, we're agreed it's a weaker connection.  I wouldn't have thought merely mentioning the score would make the difference on the Klopp article; my reasoning there is that (1) the match was about five months prior to the focal event of the article, and (2) we aren't led to believe that there was a substantial causal connection between that match and the focal event, such as that match causing him to be let go from Borussia Dortmund.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:40, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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 * 1) 2007/08 Bundesliga: Wolfsburg vs. Bayern Munich
 * 2) Fußball-Bundesliga 2008–09: Wolfsburg win first season title
 * 3) Götze to make Dortmund return, Schürrle completes Dortmund offensive lineup
 * 4) Wolfsburg player draws criticism for withdrawal from squad
 * 5) 2007/08 Bundesliga: Wolfsburg vs. Hansa Rostock
 * 6) Football: Leverkusen, Bremen, HSV proceed in DFB Pokal
 * 7) Fußball-Bundesliga 2007–08: Matchday 1 roundup
 * 8) Portugal to produce new Volkswagen model in 2008 acagastya  PING ME! 16:52, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Did all but the the Volkswagen article (will do redirect in a moment). The only connection I saw on the Volkswagen article was that the image, which seems to be a general background image, showed a plant in Wolfsburg.  --Pi zero (talk) 14:33, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
 * reasonable enough to exclude. I don't think there is a way to avoid image caption to appear in search results. The other possible, weak, not sufficient connection would be "it is Wolfsburg-based company". I think we both agree we need to rule that out. •–• 14:44, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

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❌ I don't see this meeting WN:PP. --SVTCobra 20:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Name and purpose
If this should exist at all, there should be the similar to specify auto-confirmed or admin only; also should specify edit or move protection. This means there should be at least four templates for this. It begins to boggle the mind why we would need even one. A simple request on a collaboration page should suffice and if not noticed there's always WN:AAA. --SVTCobra 15:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The reason I created it: When I publish an article, and Pi zero is not available, I place this template on talk page. It is a simple request on a collaboration page, yes, but the advantage of having a template is reduced writing; colour helps to identify what kind of request is made (of course it helps me because I chose the colours, but Pi zero wonder what if someone is colourblind?), and once admin dashboard is made available, it would be easy for admins to find and act, just like how reviewers use the other template to see what to review. Admin dashboard is not to eliminate AAA, but to increase the power, making it more admin-friendly. Before creating this template, I had to tweet to admins requesting page protecting or leave a note on their talk, and yet get a "no", search on non-WMF IRC channels to make such requests or follow timezone that was 13 hours behind mine, to review and publish articles. But after creating the template, I realised it could be used for protecting main space redirects (which actually requires edit protection as well). There are loads of templates required, and I will create it when I need it -- necessity is the mother of all inventions. It is a valid argument that hardly anyone monitors testing, and initially, they were in the template which we have in the RC. But the template is designed for admin dashboard. Also, I guess most of us would go back, check RC to see what happened when we were afk. •–• 15:43, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Requesting edit protection?
If there's disagreement over whether to add a parameter for what sort of protection is being asked for, it ought to be discussed here on the talk page. Edit warring is not appreciated (and doesn't look good from someone who's requesting adminship).

I do note that the name of this template is generic; one wouldn't guess, from the name "makeprotected", that it's only about renaming. One could solve that problem either by forking the template into to more specialized templates, or by parameterizing the one template. The two approaches have different drawbacks. --Pi zero (talk) 14:21, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't believe that this was edit warring... - we each made one undo. Acagastya undid with the summary "Undo: Template:Editprotected exists for requesting edit protected." I then looked at editprotected, and saw that it is for requesting edits to protected pages, not for requesting edit protection. I assumed this was a misunderstanding, and reverted with the explanation "Editprotected = please edit protected page, = please protect this page from editing" - I'm not sure where you see any edit warring or disagreement. --DannyS712 (talk) 14:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you're right. --Pi zero (talk) 15:57, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Well, perhaps the mistake of wordings. So how about ProtectFromMove and ProtectFromEdit. •–•  17:23, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

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Wikinews:Water cooler/miscellaneous/archives/2017/October

Tech News: 2017-40
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now use preload features in the visual editor. This means you can create links to create new pages and some text will already be in the edit window when someone clicks on it.

Changes later this week
 * If you have turned on "" you will now get the 2017 wikitext editor. Before this you had to turn it on manually even though it is a beta feature.
 * Special:Block and Special:Unblock will get the OOUI look.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The jQuery library will be upgraded to version 3 on all Wiktionary wikis from 2 October. It will be on all non-Wikipedia wikis from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 October. It will be on all wikis from 5 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * A new feature called Reading Lists are coming to the Wikipedia mobile apps. First it will be in the Android version. Reading Lists are a private user preference where you can see lists of articles on multiple devices. You can give feedback on this feature.
 * The search function has used fallback languages for language analysis. This means a language could be analysed with the grammar of a completely unrelated language to find related words. This will be removed from most wikis the week starting with 9 October. You can read more and give feedback.

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News on Wikipedia
You might be interest in this discussion on how news and current events are handled on Wikipedia. Waggers (talk) 14:21, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Thanks for notifying us (truly). I admit, I gave up years ago, in disillusionment, on involving myself in any Wikipedians discussion of Wikinews; such discussions are predictably dominated by false assumptions about Wikinews, and typically about news generally, that there is no point in trying to correct because those making the assumptions don't want to hear that being Wikipedians doesn't make them authorities on other wikimedian sister projects.  But it is as well for us to be aware of what they're up to over there.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Collaborative news online
Some of you may be interested in this project: https://medium.com/@dangillmor/a-new-chapter-news-co-lab-a95e0af0a27f —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:57, 4 October 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-41
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Recent changes
 * The number of active users listed by  and on Special:Statistics will now only include Wikidata edits as activity on Wikidata and not on other wikis too.
 * Previously you could create wiki links starting with two colons. Now you need to use one colon. :File:X.jpg now has to be File:X.jpg . There is now a new Linter category. You can see a list on Special:Linterrors/multi-colon-escape. The Linter extension helps you find technical errors in articles. You can read more about using Linter.

Problems
 * You will not be able to edit or upload files to Commons for around 30 minutes on 11 October. This will start at 06:00 UTC. This is because of work to let Commons show 3D models.

Changes later this week
 * The font in the edit window is monospace by default. Today you can change preferences to another font family or use "the browser default" instead of monospace. Switching to the browser default has only changed the font on Macs. The option to use browser default will be removed this week.
 * If you want to print a page or make a PDF of a page you can do so in the side menu. The way the pages look when you do this will change. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 October. It will be on all wikis from 12 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2017-42
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * When you edit a template with the visual editor it follows the template's  configuration on how to save it. You can now change the format in more powerful ways if your wiki wants it.
 * The TwoColConflict extension is a new way to solve edit conflicts. It makes it easier to copy and paste the relevant text to the text field. It has been a beta feature for the last five months. You can now try out the new interface on a page where you will actually get simulated edit conflicts. You can give feedback to the developers.

Problems
 * There is a problem with recent changes pages and your watchlist that show a large number of pages. Until it is fixed, Wikidata edits will not be shown on recent changes or in your watchlist on Commons or Russian Wikipedia. If necessary, Wikidata edits will be removed from all wikis.
 * Notifications are not working for some actions. For example some users don't get a notification when they are mentioned. The developers are working on fixing this.
 * Users on some wikis could not change their preferences. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Editors and readers who still use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP will not be able to use Wikipedia from 17 October. Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP can't connect securely to the wikis. When we allow them to do so it means that we get less security for everyone else. If you use Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP you can install Firefox 52 ESR instead. Around 0.1% of the traffic to the Wikimedia wikis comes from Internet Explorer 8 on Windows XP.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 October at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

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Tech News: 2017-43
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes Changes later this week
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can use  when you create an abuse filter. This can be used to look for multiple words or phrases within a string. It will find words where some characters have been replaced. You can read more in the documentation.
 * When you search in some languages the search function could use specific other languages if the first language didn't work. This is called a fallback language. This didn't work properly and created bad searches. The search index is being fixed to work better.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 October at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 October at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * There is a Structured Commons community focus group for Commons and Wikidata contributors who want to give input on structured data on Wikimedia Commons. You can sign up to join it.

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WikiTribune Beta launched
You can request an account if you're so inclined. Stories are now live at https://beta.wikitribune.com/. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:18, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I certainly wouldn't touch it with a stick. --Pi zero (talk) 23:21, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Not for everyone, of course. But it's of interest for this community. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
 * When the fork of Wikinews happened, I gave those involved some benefit-of-doubt for good intentions, though I felt it was making some fundamental mistakes, failing to learn things that Wikinews already knew about what works and what doesn't. While I see Wikitribune making a different set of mistakes that fail to learn things Wikinews already knows, and I'm quite willing to extend a benefit-of-doubt regarding intentions to any volunteers who involve themselves, I see no reason to extend such a benefit to its founder.  I see a member of the WMF board of trustees making a badly-planned attempt to turn a profit by competing with a WMF sister project.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:04, 25 October 2017 (UTC)

Article request format
Someone came to my talk page the other day and asked me what the correct way to request an article is. I suggested 1) just start the article and post a note asking the community to finish it--this is how I interpreted the "write a brief" instructions on the Newsroom page; 2) you're allowed to post requests on specific Wikinewsies' talk pages and 3) there is a "requested articles" page but I don't know how much foot traffic it gets. During the course of this conversation, Acagastya pointed out that we don't write briefs any more.

In a separate incident, just the opposite happened: There was a case in which another Wikinewsie hit "create" but added no content, and it looked to me like he was requesting an article, but he was really planning to come back later and write it himself. He was not happy when he came back twelve hours later to find I'd already done it.

 * 1) Is it time to establish an official system for requesting articles? (Has this been attempted in the past with poor results?)
 * 2) Is it time to establish an official system for calling dibs on an article topic?
 * 3) If the "write a brief" instructions are out of date, they should be removed.

Thoughts? Darkfrog24 (talk) 16:17, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Um, there are two different things; briefs and shorts. While do don't write them anymore, I remember one newbie got a shorts published earlier this year. acagastya PING ME! 16:30, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

 * Btw, we actually do have a page for requesting articles. I don't recall that in all the time I've been here it has ever proven itself useful; it just hasn't worked.  One might suspect Wikinews writers are more likely to put in the effort to write something they care about themselves than something someone [else] cares about.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:05, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
 * But if the someone else provides a link to a good source or two... I've done a few.  As for interest, the guy who asked about requesting articles did mention that, asked if the topic was boring everyone or something.  Turned out it wasn't as boring as it looked; he'd just kind of buried the lead.  Darkfrog24 (talk) 05:06, 27 October 2017 (UTC)

It can be requested off-wiki, to. That article about Rooney's retirement, was requested on telegram, and Zerabat wrote it in Spanish and later translated it. acagastya PING ME! 09:59, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

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editprotected The name should be "Yahoo!" and not "Yahoo". acagastya PING ME! 12:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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