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On Sunday, a long-distance snapshot of New Jersey governor and former Republican United States presidential candidate and his family on a beach outside the gubernatorial residence in  went public, raising criticism of the governor, who had ordered Island Beach and the rest of New Jersey's state parks closed the previous Friday amid a budget dispute. The response included comments from fellow Republicans and tourists, a plane over Seaside Park, and a variety of memes showing the Governor's beach chair digitally added to other images.

"[Christie's] rise to national prominence was that he had this reputation as a fighter, and that when he was fighting he was on the side of the Everyman and the New Jersey taxpayer against the status quo," Republican political strategist Kevin Madden offered. "I think the danger of the photos is that it undermines that."

Christie's lieutenant governor,, said, "If I were governor, I sure wouldn't be sitting on the beach if taxpayers didn't have access to state beaches. We need to end the shutdown now. It's hurting small businesses and ordinary New Jerseyans." Guadagno is planning to run for governor.

One visitor to Atlantic City, New Jersey — Matt Jenkins — told the press, "I think it's a shame, it's hideous."

Regardless of whether they shared Jenkins' opinion, users of and similar programs added the Governor in his beach gear to images of television programs such as Jersey Shore and ', movies like ', and one scene from the.

On Monday, a plane towed a banner over Seaside Park reading, "Tell Gov Christie: Get the hell off Island Beach State Park," echoing the Governor's own words in 2011, in which he told visitors "Get the hell off the beach" as approached. The plane received applause from beachgoers.

The dispute that precipitated the shutdown concerned a law letting the New Jersey state government decide how much money the state-founded health insurer would be allowed to accumulate before being required to contribute to the New Jersey state health fund passed the state Senate but not the House, which is largely made up of Democrats. Governor Christie supported the bill. On Sunday, he told the press he would sign any budget the legislature sent him so long as the bill is passed as well: "If they send it to me with Horizon, I will sign it. If they send it to me without Horizon I will use my authority to make a smaller budget[...] If they send me a budget today the shutdown would be over. The Legislature is deciding not to send me either budget." The smaller budget that the governor proposed would include less funding for schools and other programs. Late Monday, the state legislature complied with the governor's stipulations, and Governor Christie signed the bill, reopening the state's parks in time for the holiday.

Christie enjoyed an approval rating of roughly 70% after his response in 2012 to, but his popularity suffered following a 2016 scandal called , in which some of his aides ordered some of the entry lanes into the , a major artery for the commute from New Jersey into New York City, closed during rush hour, possibly as political retaliation against a politician in , New Jersey, the town most potently affected by the closure. He also lost the Republican presidential nomination to now-President Donald Trump and the vice presidential nomination to Mike Pence.

Christie defended his decision not to cancel his family's vacation plans by pointing out that many of New Jersey's beaches, over 100 miles (160 km) remained open to visitors and saying that he has the right to use the gubernatorial residence and that his visit required no government services. The Guardian noted a state helicopter shuttled the governor between the park and the state capital,.

New Jersey is one of several U.S. states that did not have budgets ready for the fiscal year. The northeastern state of Maine also underwent a government shutdown.


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German Bundestag votes for same-sex marriage

July 3, 2017

On Friday, the, the German parliament, voted in favour of legalising same-sex marriage. The bill was passed on the last day before the parliament's summer break.

With 393 members voting for legalising same-sex marriage, four members abstained leaving 226 against votes. German chancellor Angela Merkel, on June 26, said she would allow parliamentarians to vote their own, and Martin Schulz of the , on the next day, asked for voting before the election in September.

"I hope that the vote today not only promotes respect between the different opinions but also brings more social cohesion and peace", Merkel said. She voted against same-sex marriage, she told the media, explaining she believed the German constitutional definition of marriage required a man and a woman.

, Schulz tweeted. After the voting, Germany's capital football club tweeted, and hoisted the rainbow-coloured flag — a symbol of the LGBT community.

Civil partnership has been legal in Germany since 2001, but this bill awaits the president's signature to enter the lawbooks. Other countries in Europe where same-sex marriage is legal include Portugal, Spain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Ireland, and the whole of the United Kingdom except Northern Ireland.

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Former Chelsea and England's football captain signed a one-year contract with  on a free transfer, the club announced on Monday. In April, the 36-year-old defender announced his desire to leave his boyhood club, Chelsea, after his contract ended with the London-based club.

John Terry joined the Blues 22 years ago, and made his professional debut against Aston Villa in 1998. Since then, Terry has won fifteen trophies making 717 appearances for Chelsea. The only players who made more appearances for Chelsea were and. He has won the and  five times,  thrice, and one each of UEFA Champions League and. Terry led Chelsea to the Premier League title in his final season.

Terry said he did not want to play against Chelsea, and hence joined Aston Villa, who are in the, the second tier of English football. He said, "The mental side of playing against Chelsea was too much to get over for me. I was there for 22 years at the football club. I am very proud of that but this is a new chapter in my life and career."

After signing the contract, Terry said, "My thoughts are 100% here and the ambition is to get us back to the Premier League. It's a huge club." Terry has been assigned jersey number 26, the number he wore on his back in his entire professional career. His contract with Chelsea expired on Friday.

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 * Any of these seems a plausible choice to me. Acagastya is apparently disinclined to any such image; but historically, we've encouraged used of some image on an article.  I don't know what they have in mind as a principle, in this case.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * I don't think this needs to be treated as a big problem. It doesn't say they used Photoshop, it says "Photoshop and similar programs".  If you would like it to say "Photoshop or similar programs" (without the emphasis) I think we could do that, because it doesn't really change the meaning, just clarifies slightly. How would you prefer to have phrased it, in the first place?  --Pi zero (talk) 11:40, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Why do we explicitly say Photoshop? It has been 24 hours and removing Photoshop will be a substantial change. acagastya 12:40, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * It's used as a example that is commonly recognized; probably the most commonly recognized example, so common that Wiktionary lists as a common verb.  Although I don't think it's problematic enough to justify a correction, I really would be interested in a suggestion for an alternative phrasing that avoids using such an example — because while we don't respond to flaws in an article by tweaking it forever like Wikipedia does, we do seek to learn from those flaws how to do better in future articles.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Photoshop is Adobe's Trademark, besides, see this. Here's what I'ld say:

 * 1) "Regardless of whether they shared Jenkins' opinion, photos of the Governor in his beach gear were added to images of television programs such as Jersey Shore and The Sopranos, movies like Jaws, and one scene from the Oval Office by using digital manipulating applications."
 * 2) Digitally manipulated images of governor in his beach gear in the tv programmes [...] circulated ... regardless of [...] opinion. acagastya  14:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't even understand what the issue is here. Removed the tag. Please resubmit if this is still an issue and clarify. --SVTCobra 18:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Read the article, and you would understand. You just can't jump onto a moving vehicle. •–• 22:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ photoshopping has become ubiquitous and a neolgism, much like xeroxing and hoovering did years ago. The language in the article further takes into account that it is not the only brand. --SVTCobra 17:23, 27 April 2018 (UTC)


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"One of the things that annoys me on the usual news media web sites is reading a vaguely familiar sounding story that turns out to be weeks, months or even years old. That happened on your site. It is a story about an Oakland, CA record release party fire. It was written on 12/4/2016. I, like most people (I think), read news daily. If you would differentiate between stories under and over 24 hours old in some instantly obvious fashion (background color, font color, etc.) it would be useful to many readers like me."

I think the article referenced is Oakland, California record release party catches fire. —mikemoral (talk) 17:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

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IFTTT issue, Facebook
Hi all, apologies for Facebook going silent the last few days. I just scheduled all the backlog of articles that haven't been shared there, they'll be unleashed in the next 12 or so hours.

I have an IFTTT script set up, it usually emails me when there's new articles. Not sure what's gone wrong after probably eight months of it working, but I was unaware there was anything new over the last few days. -- Zanimum (talk) 01:06, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Everyday spammers and vandals
Seems that we are dealing with spammers and vandals and copyright violators everyday. Maybe it's something to do with "referrer information" that Wikinews is giving out lately. I addressed referrer info at Water cooler/policy, but I've not yet seen one response. If sending out referrer info is not exactly the cause, how else do those folk retrieve word about Wikinews? --George Ho (talk) 05:29, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

Good and bad news about cross-wiki search results in English Wikipedia
Good news: The cross-wiki search results from other projects are now live in English Wikipedia. Bad news: The search results from English Wikinews are suppressed via RfC discussion in English Wikipedia, meaning users won't see those results there. Feel free to share your thoughts here. --George Ho (talk) 20:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't see how it is a good news, or a bad news considering the way people use "search" on Wikipedia. acagastya 02:43, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Just wondering: would the search results inserted into English Wikipedia attract Wikipedia users into coming to Wikinews? Would it attract more editors? --George Ho (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Do you remember the time when Google displayed the commercials/ads on the right hand side? Remember how quickly we realised it was not something we were looking for? Just like that, this move by Wikipedia, or media would be futile. It is no rocket science to figure out how to look for Wikipedia articles. Most of the readers search for the term on search engines. Those who don't know the naming policy would use a search engine rather than Wikipedia's search. Wikipedia's search shows a drop down list of the articles with the string typed in the bar. Those who edit Wikipedia knows where exactly they need to go, and they can just modify the URL for ithe target page. Wikipedia's search is the best for finding archived discussions, of something that is at the tip of the tongue but still you don't recall what exactly you are looking for. or the other time someone uses the search when the thing you are looking for is not what search engine shows and what you are looking for is trivial. In any case, whatever biaspedia shows, readers who searched, and clicked the sister project links would find some degree of information, but they would hardly choose to write. (If they wanted to, they would not be using the Wikipedia search for what they were looking for). For editors who see sister project links, well, they might choose to write or might ignore the list. Good number of people who thinks of you are on wikiproject, you have to be on Wikipedia. acagastya 15:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
 * There used to be a link to Wikinews at the bottom of the ITN section on the Wikipedia main page. A massive campaign of bullshit was used to ram through a vote to remove it.  Despite the existence of some great folks at Wikipedia, the Wikipedian community contains a high level of project bigotry, which the aforementioned campaign catered to, and attempting (by direct address) to enlighten the Wikipedian community sufficiently to get them to work with the rest of the sisterhood instead of against it is just a recipe for expensive failure.  I do care about Wikipedia, and would help it if I could, but I decline to put any energy into worrying about what they will or won't do for us.  --Pi zero (talk) 16:24, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Jimmy Wales Reddit AMA on Wikitribune
https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/67vbyo/iama_jimmy_wales_from_wikipedia_and_as_of_this/ A month old but I just saw it. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:26, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

De-Recognition of Wikimedia Hong Kong
''This is an update from the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Translations are available.''

Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the Wikimedia mission.

The principal Wikimedia movement affiliate in the Hong Kong region is Wikimedia Hong Kong, a Wikimedia chapter recognized in 2008. As a result of Wikimedia Hong Kong’s long-standing non-compliance with reporting requirements, the Wikimedia Foundation and the Affiliations Committee have determined that Wikimedia Hong Kong’s status as a Wikimedia chapter will not be renewed after February 1, 2017.

If you have questions about what this means for the community members in your region or language areas, we have put together a basic FAQ. We also invite you to visit the main Wikimedia movement affiliates page for more information on currently active movement affiliates and more information on the Wikimedia movement affiliates system.

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Review of initial updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process
''Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. Message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.''

The Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. For 15 years, Wikimedians have worked together to build the largest free knowledge resource in human history. During this time, we've grown from a small group of editors to a diverse network of editors, developers, affiliates, readers, donors, and partners. Today, we are more than a group of websites. We are a movement rooted in values and a powerful vision: all knowledge for all people. As a movement, we have an opportunity to decide where we go from here.

This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve. We hope to design an inclusive process that makes space for everyone: editors, community leaders, affiliates, developers, readers, donors, technology platforms, institutional partners, and people we have yet to reach. There will be multiple ways to participate including on-wiki, in private spaces, and in-person meetings. You are warmly invited to join and make your voice heard.

The immediate goal is to have a strategic direction by Wikimania 2017 to help frame a discussion on how we work together toward that strategic direction.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Beginning with this message, monthly reviews of these updates will be sent to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a review of the updates that have been sent so far:

 * Update 1 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (15 December 2016)
 * Introduction to process and information about budget spending resolution to support it
 * Update 2 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (23 December 2016)
 * Start of search for Lead Architect for movement strategy process
 * Update 3 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (8 January 2017)
 * Plans for strategy sessions at upcoming Wikimedia Conference 2017
 * Update 4 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (11 January 2017)
 * Introduction of williamsworks
 * Update 5 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 February 2017)
 * The core movement strategy team, team tracks being developed, introduction of the Community Process Steering Committee, discussions at WikiIndaba conference 2017 and the Wikimedia movement affiliates executive directors gathering in Switzerland
 * Update 6 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (10 February 2017)
 * Tracks A & B process prototypes and providing feedback, updates on development of all four Tracks

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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Overview #2 of updates on Wikimedia movement strategy process
''Note: Apologies for cross-posting and sending in English. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.''

As we mentioned last month, the Wikimedia movement is beginning a movement-wide strategy discussion, a process which will run throughout 2017. This movement strategy discussion will focus on the future of our movement: where we want to go together, and what we want to achieve.

Regular updates are being sent to the Wikimedia-l mailing list, and posted on Meta-Wiki. Each month, we are sending overviews of these updates to this page as well. Sign up to receive future announcements and monthly highlights of strategy updates on your user talk page.

Here is a overview of the updates that have been sent since our message last month:
 * Update 7 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (16 February 2017)
 * Development of documentation for Tracks A & B
 * Update 8 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (24 February 2017)
 * Introduction of Track Leads for all four audience tracks
 * Update 9 on Wikimedia movement strategy process (2 March 2017)
 * Seeking feedback on documents being used to help facilitate upcoming community discussions

More information about the movement strategy is available on the Meta-Wiki 2017 Wikimedia movement strategy portal.

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== Start of the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections ==

''Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.''

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

'''We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.'''

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

 * April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
 * April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
 * April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
 * May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
 * May 15–19 – Board vote checking
 * May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

 * Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
 * There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

 * Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
 * One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-electionswikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,

Katie Chan, Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee

Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

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Tech News: 2017-26
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The  has a new  parameter. You can add values like  . It will add that to the user's search query.

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 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 June. It will be on all wikis from 29 June (calendar).
 * Users will be able to choose whether they want to see Wikidata changes in enhanced watchlist/recent changes. Previously, this was disabled for everyone.

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 * You can join the next WMF Language team office hour, an open session to talk about Wikimedia Language projects. The meeting will be on 27 June at 13:00 UTC.

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Volvo announces all new car models electric or hybrid from 2019

July 7, 2017

On Wednesday, automobile company announced all of its cars to be released in 2019 onwards are to use some form of battery-powered engine, leaving conventional petrol-only vehicles altogether. The decision comes after Volvo announced in May their intent to cease production of diesel vehicles.

The chief executive of Volvo Cars,, said, "People increasingly demand electrified cars". Volvo aims to release five new electric vehicle models between 2019 and 2021. While little has yet been revealed about them, the company has stated two of them are to be high-performance electric vehicles, branded as Polestars.

Other car models from 2019 may be or 48-volt "" systems. and are also releasing mild hybrid cars for the European market.

"This announcement marks the end of the solely combustion engine-powered car. Volvo Cars has stated that it plans to have sold a total of 1m electrified cars by 2025. When we said it we meant it. This is how we are going to do it," Samuelsson said. Volvo is owned by Chinese automotive giant, and China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology has said by 2025 they want new vehicle sales to be 20 percent "new energy vehicles".


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India Supreme Court overrules High Court: rivers Yamuna, Ganga no longer living entities

July 9, 2017 On Friday, the supreme court of India overruled a High Court decision which identified rivers and  as living entities. The appeal, filed by the state government of from which these two rivers originate, claimed the decision was "unsustainable in the law". Days after the was identified as living being in New Zealand, Uttarakhand's high court ruled in favour of granting the two rivers — Ganga and Yamuna — status as living persons. The bench of justices Rajeev Sharma and Alok Singh hearing a related case ruled the rivers "legal and living entities, having the status of a legal person with all corresponding rights, duties and liabilities of a living person", and the director general of project and the chief secretary and advocate general of Uttarakhand as the legal guardians of the rivers on March 20.

The state government raised concerns that the high court ruling did not consider other states where the river flows, and hence it was outside the judicial limits of the state court. The river passes through the states of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, and West Bengal, as well as through Bangladesh. "Since the matter of cleaning the Ganga is not just restricted to Uttarakhand, as it also flows through West Bengal, how could the Chief Secretary and the Advocate General tackle all the issues related to the river", Uttarakhand state government spokesperson Madan Kaushik said. Granting status as a living entity would also mean the river could be sued like other citizens. The State government explained, using the example of flooding, that the "legal guardians" or the state may not be able to support financially the harm caused by the river to others.

Those rivers originate from and  glaciers, and are considered sacred in Hinduism. Ganga is also referred to as maa (mother). But, these rivers are among the most polluted rivers on Earth. The previous ruling of the high court could provide legal grounds to prevent industries from harming the "living entities" by disposing of toxic wastes in the rivers.

In the plea, the government said, "only to protect the faith of society, the rivers can not be declared as a legal person".


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"State government explained with the example of flooding as the "legal guardians" or the state may not be able to support financially for the harm caused by the river to others."

This sentence may need some rewording - what exactly is it meant to be saying? It's a bit confusing to read currently. -- numbermaniac  04:37, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

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 * The problem about names is subjective. People call this river as "Ganga" in this part of the world. The number is in the order of hundred millions to a billion. Calling it the Ganges makes no sense. I can understand Köln is called Cologne because ö is not in the English alphabet. But again, isn't it a personal choice? Let the people know it exists and what they know was not the actual pronunciation/spelling. People acagastya 04:01, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I did not know that "Ganga" was another name for the "Ganges" until just now. I've heard "Ganges" many times but had never heard "Ganga" until this draft.  When I worked on it, I thought that it was a completely different river. (India does have more than one river, after all.) It wasn't like that article with the girl from Virginia, where I could tell from context that the word probably meant "Ramadan."
 * So regardless of whether the goal is to make the article accessible to as many readers as possible or educate U.S. readers that another version of the word they're used to exists, then yes, we have to add "also called the Ganges." It costs us almost nothing to do so.
 * Things can change. "Beijing" has supplanted "Peking" as the standard U.S. and British spelling of the name of that specific city,  but we still pronounce "llama" with an L sound and not a Y sound.  Maybe "Ganga" will supplant "Ganges" one day, especially if there's a case that it's more correct (see "tsunami" supplanting "tidal wave" just because people think it's more correct), but that's not the audience we have to work with this week. Darkfrog24 (talk) 21:05, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * You didn't know. Now you know. Good, isn't? The thing here is: billion people calls it Ganga. That is more than the number of people using English (US). Something might be called by a different name in a different geographical location that doesn't mean we should list all of them. We are not an encyclopedia. I don't know what to say: you are arguing about Ganga Vs The Ganges for a story that deals with the country where it is called Ganga. Yamuna is also called as Jamuna. Why miss that point? We call Ram, in English, native speakers call it Rama, we say Bharat, they say Bharata, we say Ravan, they say Ravana. We can't please everyone. acagastya 07:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * That reminds me of "to table a bill". Please stop using the grey area of the policies for what you wish for. acagastya 07:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Afaik, the question at this point is not whether to use "Ganga", but whether to explain that "Ganga" refers to the same thing as "the Ganges". When you're arguing against providing clarity in news writing, and some of your readership would not understand as well without the explanation, you're not in a strong position.  It doesn't matter how many know it as "Ganga", but rather how many would benefit from the explanation.  The fact that those who would benefit are unevenly distributed on the planet is, if anything, a further point in favor of explanation — we want our article to be as helpful as possible to as many as possible, and we certainly want to be helpful uniformly across the planet.  --Pi zero (talk) 11:39, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

We can not satisfy everyone. Chinese name for Ganga might be different. It has different name in Arabic. The Koreans know it by a different name -- how are we going to deal with it? Agastya Chandrakant  ⚽ 🏆 🎾 🎬 🎤 📰  12:29, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * No need to overthink this. Non-English names don't come into it.  --Pi zero (talk) 13:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, listing a hundred names can be a problem, but if we can get 95% of all English speakers by listing two or even three, we should do it. So let's flip this around. Adding "also called the Ganges" does something good for let's call us Western English speakers.  Does it do something bad for anyone else?
 * Even if one of the goals here were to go "Ha ha, silly Americans. How do you like it when it's not all about you?" that point is made much better by using "Ganga" as the primary term and presenting "Ganges" as the alternative. Otherwise, both joke and lesson will zoom over most of their heads. Darkfrog24 (talk) 18:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I can go on talking about it -- "how about learning to pronounce the Indian names?" Let's do a quick math. (Population of India - Population of the US) > one billion. So don't speak about how the US knows it. It is a proper name. if I ask you what is the first name of Microsoft's CEO, would you say "Truth", or "Satya"? acagastya PING ME! 04:29, 22 August 2017 (UTC)


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 * ❌ Perhaps, but that infobox was created in 2009 and this article is from 2007. --SVTCobra 20:37, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Unlike sources, templates created after the date of publication can be used for the article. Besides the story is too small to give an impression about India. The category is more than sufficient. D&a is a category which would not have anyone questioning the degree of seriousness. Consider it like this; if it was a car accident killing five in Queens, New York; would one prefer United States it Disasters and accidents? •–• 12:22, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I said I see your point. But you are tampering with the archives putting in content (and you say templates are content, remember?) that didn't exist when the article was written. --SVTCobra 17:59, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * infobox is a non-news template, which has not much to do, and often reflect potential bias/CoI? What was that article? Israeli chess players banned from participating in a tournament in Saudi Arabia, I guess. For the part where you say I am tampering with something that did not exist that time, infobox uses DLP. The articles you see in that infobox were written years after this article was archived, how do you explain that? I guess, by that same reasoning, you would deny to make use of w templates for old articles. I really think other admin should look into this (CC) as archive policy states the substantial changes to the article can not be made 24 hours after publishing, and infobox is a non-news article template. Similar logic would apply if footballbox is changed to display referee on the left hand side instead of right. 223.237.237.238 (talk) 18:51, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * <pi zero dropping in> I have no strong feelings about which infobox would be preferable. Historically we haven't treated infobox choice as part of archived content; which said, it would probably be just as well that we stay fairly conservative about cosmetic adjustments to the archives.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:05, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think, the words you used: Besides the story is too small to give an impression about India go to show that you want the infobox to add to the article; that it is in fact part of the article. Sure, the code for the newer infobox existed, but not the template itself. In conclusion, I am in favor of leaving the archives alone as much as possible. Part of it is to go back and look and say, "wow, look how primitive WN was back then ... we have come a long way since then." Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:16, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * As for your example about Queens, NY, we recently published Scaffolding collapses in Copenhagen with a "Denmark" infobox and not a "Disasters and accidents" infobox. --SVTCobra 21:40, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a side note -- that article is clearly below minimal length -- one liners do not account for paragraph. But, Airborne sedan smashes into dental office in Santa Ana, California, US -- not very near to Queens, but not that far. 223.237.208.21 (talk) 21:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I agree disasters and accidents would be a better choice than india for this article — because the question seems to me to be what navigational peripheral would be most helpful to a reader who wants more of what they're looking at — and I do maintain an infobox can be changed on an old archived article like this (I believe I've seen it done, maybe once in the years I've been on Wikinews); but I'm sympathetic to SVT's remark about saying "wow, look how primitive WN was back then". This article says almost nothing, and trying to improve it seems rather futile.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

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 * Yes, I felt things were too close -- but that is the style I have used in other contract related news articles. So, I can use the structure of what I have written because it is under CC BY 2.5, I thought. It was more about the doubt what to do if the content was similar to the archives but a source uses the same style? acagastya 02:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * As a kid, I heard many people talking about Rooney. But only football fans would know about him. I should have remembered while naming the article (it was not what I had initially planned). How about this? "Rooney returns to Everton FC? acagastya 02:43, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I considered "Rooney returns to Everton FC", but wanted the sport named in full rather than in an initialism, and at the start of the headline rather than at the end. I also considered "Footall: Rooney returns to Everton".  --Pi zero (talk) 03:31, 10 July 2017 (UTC)


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Amsterdam to invest in affordable housing
Hello. There is a problem with this article. The sources are in Dutch, and nobody understands Dutch. If you could
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 * 2) Translate the Dutch sources to English manually

it would do. acagastya PING ME! 10:28, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

 * There are some things that make this situation more complicated.
 * Sometimes a reviewer manages to deal with non-English sources in a language the reviewer isn't at all fluent in. It depends on a lot of things, like how complex is the information that is being extracted from the source, how well we know the reporter, how much the reviewer has dealt with the source-language, how similar to English the source-language is (some European languages are pretty similar, though others are less so).  There can be real problems in trying, though; there can be idioms and nuances that no non-fluent reviewer would even know were there.  (I once coped with a Spanish-language source, only to find out later in conversation with someone whose first language was Spanish that that Spanish-language source appeared, from its overall style, to be a press release.  Which would have mattered hugely to my treatment of the source, and perhaps to my treatment of the whole review, if I had known; but only a native speaker of Spanish would ever have known that the overall tone of that source indicated "press release".)
 * Rather than replacing sources with English ones, add English sources. Sources that were actually used in writing the article should stay on the list of sources.
 * We cannot host a full translation of a copyrighted source on the wiki: a translation retains all the copyright restrictions of the original, plus whatever additional restrictions might be imposed by the translator. There are a couple of ways to deal with that:
 * It might be possible to provide translation notes on the article talk page, translating a few key passages, and/or discussing overall concerns with translation of the sources.
 * A more extensive translation, that cannot be hosted on the wiki, could be sent to the scoop mailing list — "scoop at wikinewsie dot org".
 * --Pi zero (talk) 11:11, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback acagastya and Pi zero. This is the first time I posted an article on the English version of wikinews. I appreciate the thorough review process (and the work you people do to make it happen). At the same time, the requirement to translate sources creates a pretty high barrier for posting stories on news from the Netherlands (in many cases the only sources in English, if any, will be websites targeting expats that use the same Dutch sources I’m using). For my information, has it been considered using google translate to check non-English sources? Nuams (talk) 17:28, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The thing is: machine translation has often resulted in saying things opposite to what it means. For checking English Sources, of we do that, we are no longer uninvolved reviewers, and so we won't be able to review it. I could have done it, but due to real life problems at the moment, I wouldn't be able to. I am sorry for that. I know first contribution means a lot, and I know that feeling. I hope you would look for some English sources for the next time. I hope I could be more helpful from the next time you write an article. But, I think or  can find sources for this article. George Ho, numbermaniac, could you please take care of this? I would try to review it tomorrow, and I hope the article won't lose freshness. acagastya  PING ME! 17:52, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I've found two English-language articles that verify almost all the statements in the article. Make sure to check the comments - there are some minor discrepancies here and there. -- numbermaniac  02:38, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking the sources numbermaniac. I’m not sure whether this is the right place to respond? As for the rise in house prices: Parool says 'over 21%' whereas Dutchnews says 'some 20%' - I guess a safe approach would be to use the latter? As for the publication date of the NLTimes article, it might actually be correct: on 22 June the city government issued a press release announcing the Housing Agenda (https://www.amsterdam.nl/bestuur-organisatie/college/individuele-paginas/lau-rens/persberichten/amsterdam-gaat-80/), but it wasn't adopted by the city council until about a month later.

From what I could understand, it came into effect on Wednesday night -- and today is the fourth day, so it is no longer fresh. I am really sorry. acagastya PING ME! 10:12, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

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