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Leader of South Korea requests foreign involvement in decommissioning of nuclear test site

May 4, 2018 On Tuesday, South Korean President Moon Jae-in contacted the United Nations and requested U.N. supervision of the decommissioning of, a subterranean tunnel network beneath where all six of North Korea's nuclear tests took place. North Korean leader Kim Jong Un reportedly said during April 27's session of the 2018 Inter-korea summit he would invite journalists and other experts from other countries to witness the site's closure. A statement issued by the, the South Korean presidential residence, said President Moon phoned U.N. Secretary General António Guterres to request the United Nations confirm the shutdown, and Guterres responded, while that specific request had to go through the Security Council he would assign someone at the U.N. to work with South Korea. Moon's office also reported Kim Jong Un saying he would invite experts from the United States and other countries to view the site as it was closed.

On April 27, Kim and Moon met at a border village called to discuss relations between their two countries. They emerged with the, calling for removal of all nuclear weapons from the Korean Peninsula. According to Moon's spokesperson, Kim told Moon, "If we maintain frequent meetings and build trust with the United States and receive promises for an end to the war and a non-aggression treaty, then why would be need to live in difficulty by keeping our nuclear weapons?"

International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) officials, in remarks to, said the IAEA is willing to assist with the decommissioning of Punggye-ri.

Director of the  described the closure as "of limited value, but it's not meaningless. [...] I would compare it to the blowing up of the cooling tower at  in 2008."

Last week, published a report saying the tunnels of Punggye-ri are likely to have partially collapsed after last September's nuclear test, itself of seismic magnitude 6.3  and triggering subsequent earthquakes. Kim said this was not the case: "Some say that we are terminating facilities that are not functioning, but you will see that we have two more tunnels that are bigger than the existing ones and that they are in good condition," again reported through Moon's spokesperson.

"This is a small but welcome step. But, as always, we must take North Korea's actions with appropriate caution," said former United States diplomat. "We can't rule out that Kim Jong Un wants to be seen as a maverick. He has a clear taste for bold moves that surprise the international community, something that sets him apart from his father."

"If reports are true that the tunnels have collapsed," said Duyeon Kim of the Korean Peninsula Future Forum think tank, "then the test site would be useless for future nuclear tests anyway, so it would just be a symbolic gesture to close it down[...] It's not a serious or sincere gesture to denuclearize." He also observed, "Advanced nuclear states don't need to conduct explosive tests after a certain point, so Pyongyang might be trying to show it is a part of that nuclear club."

Officially, the, which began in 1950, never ended. There was a cease-fire in 1953 but no formal peace treaty. At the April 27 summit, the leaders discussed nuclear disarmament, the reuniting of families separated by the partition, and general relations between the two countries.

Kim also announced plans to reverse a 2015 change to North Korea's time zone. The country's clocks are currently set 30 minutes ahead of South Korea's. "I feel sad to see that there are two clocks hung on the wall of the Peace House, one for Seoul time and the other for Pyongyang time," Moon's spokesperson reported Kim said during the talks. "Since it is us who changed the time standard, we will return to the original one."

Kim Jong Un and United States President Donald Trump have spoken of meeting in a few weeks, but no date or location has been firmly announced. President Moon plans to visit Pyongyang in person in the fall.


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As always, I consider the title serviceable, but I'm not head over heels. Anyone wants to change it, go ahead. Darkfrog24 (talk) 19:45, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4403446 [Not ready]

 * 1) Redid the first line to establish that the point is that they are both doing the same thing in different ways, which is a very Koreas thing to do.
 * 2) Removing the Kim Jong Un focus would render a lot of the commentary on his motives irrelevant to the article.
 * 3) That line introduces the subsequent paragraphs, which provide the rest of the reaction. Added a "for example" to make this clearer.
 * 4) Removed one of the officiallies and the line that you cite as redundant. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

 * On another note, closing the test range really is insignificant because it consists of tunnels. I am pretty sure those tunnels were dug by hard labor political prisoners, a bunch of whom died when one of them collapsed a few months ago. Also, for a test facility to exist, you have to have testing equipment to show you how well the test did. I would be interested to see if any of that is being looked at the moment. AZOperator (talk) 21:30, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4403633 [Not ready]

 * Good enough for re-review? I focused on Tuesday ad removed any analysis of whether the two statements were equivalent. I only touched the first paragraph. --SVTCobra 23:11, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

 * EDIT CONFLICT
 * It seems that you [Pi zero] and I have stylistic differences. I did not fail to choose one event.  I deliberately chose two.  It's not a focus problem; it's a focus difference.  Per your last review, it looked like you simply didn't understand that that's what I was doing.  I'm a believer in "don't tell me in the talk page; tell me in the article," so I made the changes that you seem to find just made things worse.
 * This is not about Moon or Kim but rather about both of them. If you were to change the beginning in the way you describe, you would not be fixing a problem but rather transforming the piece from an article about This into an article about That.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, and certainly not something that you aren't allowed to do, but if you truly think it's necessary, then you should do it and then let someone else do the review, and if no one does and the article times out, oh well.
 * It looks like what's going on here is that this article meets Wikinews' standards in general but is very much not to your taste. For such articles, perhaps switching from review team to draft team or just not reviewing it is the thing to do.
 * POST EDIT CONFLICT It seems that SVTCobra has taken the lead on this issue. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:24, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Eh, I think it was better the way I did it (which is why I did it that way) but it's still pretty good. I'm cool with it in this form. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:27, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * ...and reading SVT's work has given me some ideas. Pi zero, is the problem that you have with the original version of the opener that you think it wasn't tight enough/focused on two things and not just one or was it something else, something qualitatively different from that?  Right now, I'm not asking why you think having two focal events is bad.  I'm asking whether that is indeed what you are talking about in your review responses. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:32, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * A large part of it, I believe, was this: "both asked for the same thing in different ways" ... Wikinews should not decide that. Just state the two different things and let the reader draw their own conclusions. --SVTCobra 23:44, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
 * For me it was both the technical point about focus and its consequences. I saw this article faltering in ways that followed from its technical focus problem; either the faltering or the technical problem would be an obstacle, but they don't come separately.  It does seem a rather good concrete demonstration of the principle of focus —something I've been trying for some time to describe abstractly, without notable success— including demonstration of how crisp focus acts to eliminate other problems, and demonstration that crisp focus does not have to inhibit presenting the structure of the story.  --Pi zero (talk) 02:02, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answer. I don't really see what you mean by "technical problem" or any place the reader is likely to get confused What technical problem do you mean? Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Some months ago, there was a similar discussion here, and there may have been more similar discussions. It seems some users here have very big problems with having two focal events more or less at once. I for my part do not think this should be such a big problem. Sometimes it's just necessary to "merge" two focal events, in order to comply at the same time with the strict "freshness" policy. De Wikischim (talk) 08:16, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, it is not necessary. There is, in fact, no reason at all to do so, which is the point.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:21, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Quote from, 20:42, 25 January 2018: "I don't see a problem. There seems to be a direct cause and effect linking the two events". So I'd say there surely is a reason, or at least, there may be one in some cases (like in this article, for example). De Wikischim (talk) 15:41, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You've apparently failed to read and understand the discussion, and the case. --Pi zero (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * YAY, PRECEDENT CONVERSATION!! I'm going to go give it a look! Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * So in your opinion, SVT, the second draft of this article had a problem in the lead but the first did not?
 * I've been doing some thinking and I think this is the problem: If it is something that I have seen professional news outlets do, like have two focuses once in the while, then "that's wrong" is not going to fly with me. My eyes are telling me that it's not wrong.
 * However, if you were to say, "I Pi zero am not comfortable/not going to/[say as you like] hit publish on an article that goes against my own ideas of what's best for Wikinews and/or its readers," but then don't kick it to "disputed." Leave it in the review hopper in case another reviewer wants to give it a go. (Also good: "We at Wikinews decided years ago not to do it this way; here's a link to that conversation.") Your two responses here give me vibes of "What are you going to believe, what you see or what I tell ya? Obey me!" and that creeps me out. Darkfrog24 (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No. The lead paragraph was nearly unchanged between the two. It was only after the second failing review that I looked at it critically. --SVTCobra 13:03, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Darkfrog,
 * you violated the requirement of a focal event — that's a focal event, singular — which I've characterized as 'technical' although, of course, like all the basic principles of Wikinews there are deep practical reasons for it,
 * by doing so you introduced various other serious problems into the article, thus demonstrating the wisdom of the 'technical' principle, and
 * fixing the 'technical' violation eliminated the consequent problems without creating the problem you had claimed would result, thus demonstrating that your concern was illusory.
 * I do not not-ready based on mere personal preference; in fact, every time I allow you to deprive readers of information by using information-lossy punctuation conventions on quotes I go somewhat beyond the limits of merely tolerating personal preferences, putting up with a mild betrayal of our responsibility to inform readers to the best of our ability. If you imagine I would abuse my status to push a mere personal preference... I lack words to express how badly you've misread me.  However, it's not really news that you've misjudged me; you've demonstrated that often since you arrived here.  You also continue, I see, to imagine that somehow msm practice is automatically "right" — which isn't even necessarily true journalistically, let alone valid in the context of Wikinews.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:39, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "Violated"? What the eff. And no, a single focal event is not a requirement.  According to the content guide, the article can also focus on a single phenomenon, like the two Korean leaders doing the same thing in different ways.
 * What "various other serious problems" are you talking about, and why not name them in your first review response?
 * Yes, the article does look lopsided now with a lede and headline that are about Moon but so much of the body about Kim. It's good enough, but it was better before.
 * No I am not "violating" Wikinews or "betraying" the readers by writing an article that was not to your liking. I find your language far too strong.  I think "abusing your position" is too strong a term as well.
 * If these are not your personal preferences, if they don't come from you, then show me where they do come from. Journalism lecture? Textbook? Wikinews precedent conversation? It would be great for me to see your source, so that I can be enlightened by it too.  I am not being sarcastic; I am 100% serious.  And if it's not coming from you personally or from a source, then what?
 * "You also continue, I see, to imagine that somehow msm practice is automatically "right" — which isn't even necessarily true journalistically" Okay, I think we can make some progress here:  I do not think that MSM practice is automatically right so much as I think the sources are far more likely to be right than any one individual person working at Project Wiki.
 * So this is the nail on the head: When you want to convince me "I the reviewer am right," especially if it's "The source is wrong and I the reviewer am right," you have to do more than just say so. Show me your source.  Show me your precedent.  Show me something that went wrong the last time it happened.  Or at least show me how you came to have that opinion. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:31, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Juuuuuuust in case anyone years from now sees that post out of context, the issue at hand is a matter of source practices on paragraph structure, not on facts. No one's accusing anyone of alternative facts. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:38, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'd call it article structure, rather than paragraph structure. Getting dragged down into details on this is simply a road to insanity without end. If I meant to spend the next several days composing an essay, I'd start with a list of specific points you just made, then write notes on what comments should be made about each... not remotely practical. I've at least partly given up on convincing you, tbh.  You haven't got, and for whatever combination of reasons probably never will have, an intuition for the underlying principles (and no, I'm not changing the subject; a theme here is your perception of how well I understand things, and my sense of the inner harmony of the Wikinews principles can't impress someone to whom that harmony is invisible).  Your mode of operation that works best for you is fundamentally different from that of typical veteran Wikinewsies, and I've relatively recently started trying to work out what that means in practice for Wikinews contribution — how to maximize your strengths while steering entirely clear of your weaknesses, rather than trying to squeeze you into a particular mold that isn't the right shape for you.  I haven't got it figured out yet, though; and I have continuing trouble with just which of my explanations are not going to come across to you successfully (I keep getting blindsided by things that I say that unexpectedly don't come across; sometimes it takes a while for me to even realize they fell flat).  --Pi zero (talk) 01:27, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I have to agree to a large extent with what Darkfrog24 says hereabove., I'm beginning to get the idea that everyone here who has a slightly different opinion, "does not understand the basic principles" according to you. For similar reasons, you've even blamed me for trolling and misuse just because I did (and yes, still do) not agree with some parts of the policy. Now I see it's Darkfrog24 who is being accused of things such as abuse and violation.
 * Well, if you really feel the need to comment that way on other contributors, just go ahead - actually I don't care, but the final result may be that on term, you'll be the only contributor left on this project. De Wikischim (talk) 10:07, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * By the way, I now see below that you've finally approved this for publication - OK, that's good anyway. De Wikischim (talk) 10:35, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The fact that you describe the passing review as "approving for publication" is further, amongst extensive, internal evidence that, although you claim (and appear to sincerely believe) you understand-and-disagree, in fact you signally fail to grasp the concept. I do see you as a very different case from Darkfrog24, and both of you as very different again from various relative newcomers who are attempting to learn how the project works.  Your claim to understand is problematic; it is hard to distinguish lack of journalistic values from not having a clue what news is.  Our high standards present a challenge for attracting contributors —no duh— but also fuel the idealism that has been essential to en.wn's (vast, by "citizen journalism" standards) longenvity.  However, your incessant heckling of our policies and practices is a negative for which there is no obvious positive side.  --Pi zero (talk) 10:47, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, our policies and practices? It's apparent that some of the more or less steady contributors here do not − OK, at least not fully − agree with the polices and practices you're probably referring to. De Wikischim (talk) 10:54, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

 * Pi zero, take your time. I'm planning on being here for a good long while, and I'd be interested in reading that essay if you ever feel like writing it.
 * In the interest of having productive conversations in the future, I've noticed a pattern. When I say something like "Show me your source" or "'specific problem'?  Okay, name it," you almost always change the subject.  When you do that, I feel like you're not being honest.  It looks like you don't have a source/specific detail, and you don't have a good reason why not, and you don't want to admit it.
 * There are probably other explanations, but if you were to say "I don't need a source and here is my very good reason why not" or "well it's not a specific problem, more like I know there's a problem but I can't put my finger on exactly what's bothering me. I guess it's my long experience giving me some intuition," I'd get to spend less time wondering what's going on. Darkfrog24 (talk) 12:23, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Darkfrog24, I would never attempt to write that particular essay. It would be altogether a waste of time. There are some definite recurrent patterns in our interactions.  You describe what one of those looks like from your perspective.  Just as an experiment, I'll take a shot at describing (a subset of) that one from my perspective.  You say something like "Show me your source", I point out that that's the wrong question to be asking, my explanation of why it's the wrong question entirely fails to make any sense to you, and we're both left altogether frustrated. A broader pattern, I think, is that when I'm trying to explain things to you, parts of my explanations make no sense to you, to the point where, it seems as if, parts of my explanations are effectively invisible to you.  Why would that happen?  Some theories I've moved past:
 * You could have been missing some particular deep insight that, if it could just be explained in a way that would cause you to see it, would cause the various other bits floating around to converge for you. I do think something like that often happens as I'm helping Wikinews contributors grow into the role.  However, it hadn't happened, and continued to not happen, in your case.  It would have been convenient, if all that was needed was for me to work out just what needed to be explained, and find just the right way to explain it; but after a sufficient number of variations have completely failed to gain any traction whatever, a simple failure analysis suggests reconsidering that whole strategy.  So the next question is, why no traction, no convergence?
 * You could (I'm especially unfond of these variants) be refusing to believe there's something more for you to learn, either because you're too sure of yourself or because you're too doubtful of me. Or, combining with a variant of the previous theory, because you've underestimated the role that reviewers' expertise plays in passing things on to later generations of Wikinewsies (so that the challenge would become, how to get that across to you).  But after various explorations in the neighborhood of those theories, it really doesn't feel as if any of them are likely to be so.
 * Which brings me to the theory I'm currently trying on for size. This has to do with something I learned about from a professor at college.  As we interact with other people, we all tend to assume what goes on in their heads is basically akin to what goes on in our own.  But suppose, as a sort of science-fiction-y premise, that you were living in a world whose population was made up of a whole bunch of different kinds of minds, with wetware working along a bunch of mutually alien sets of principles.  How would you even know?  I worked with that professor for some years, long enough to appreciate that such stuff can be very treacherous; even harder than grokking different ways that minds can work, is grokking how different kinds of minds fail to communicate with each other.  And the researcher is inside that difficulty. That would neatly explain, though, why a bunch of my explanations would fail so utterly they might as well not exist:  I tend to describe things in terms of the inner world of my mind, and if what goes on in my mind is not at all what goes on in yours, my descriptions would be unrelatable to your experiences.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Your professor's hypothesis is very interesting. You will notice I keep asking you to show me things that exist outside your mind, like books and articles and old Wikipages.
 * Per your bullet point one, please pick out one of the times you tried to explain to me why you don't need a source, one that you think was especially good or especially core to who you are as a Wikiwriter, so I can go back and reread it a few times.
 * As for your second bullet point, no it's not that I don't think I could learn anything else. Why would I keep asking to see journalism books if I did?  It's that if you want me to learn from you, you must offer some proof that you are right or that the guesses and assumptions and reasoning that you make are better than my own.  Otherwise, you might as well learn from me. If I look at something and see it's red (or a gold and white dress), and someone wants to convince me that it's some other color (like black and blue), then they should show me proof that my eyes are playing tricks on me (like with a pixel analysis of that gold and white/black and blue dress from the meme).  If no such proof exists, then that other person should permanently accept that no reasonable person is under any obligation to change his or her mind.
 * It sounds like you should be saying in your review responses something a bit more like, "My gut/intuition tells me that X is wrong and Y is right, but I cannot figure out why," and then accept that your unexplained gut, while not nothing, is not as convincing as a source. That would come off as more sincere. Darkfrog24 (talk) 20:21, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Coming back to this interesting science fiction idea, at WP:MoS, I often found myself thinking "So-and-so is thinking like a logician and I am thinking like a scientist. So-and-so says logic shows that American punctuation should result in loss of information or confused readers, but the observable evidence shows that it doesn't result in loss of information or confused readers." I've looked over the math and logic of the Monty Hall problem but I didn't really believe it until I saw that a group of people had gone and counted how many times each person got a car or a goat.  In the Monty Hall case, the two methods produced matching results.
 * You say you focus on things that are inside your head, and, at least on Project Wiki, I rely very heavily on things outside my head. Darkfrog24 (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Everyone describes things in terms that fit the way their mind works; the variation between people is in how it is that their minds work. And there's not infinite variation in that, either; we're not talking about idiosyncratic mental landscapes, just two or three cognitive skills that, to a first approximation, each person either has or doesn't have, for either four or eight kinds of minds. I see the same pattern here that I was describing above:  I say things that add up to something for folks with sufficiently similar cognitive type to mine, and it doesn't add up for you, with the result that you get something out of it very different from what I put into it.  And we're both frustrated (at least, I certainly am; I'm only guessing that you are too).  --Pi zero (talk) 01:06, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The scenario "It's there but it's invisible to your eyes [because you are fool or a traitor]" is the Emperor's New Clothes. It's reasonable for me to least entertain the idea that there is nothing there. Darkfrog24 (talk) 11:50, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Korean names
We've gone through the process of figuring this out repeatedly; it's getting so it doesn't take as long, but somehow we're still not to the point of being sure of the details without some checking. As a general rule (with, potentially, individual exceptions because an individual person is the final authority on their own name), North Korean names make the third part a separate word with an upper-case letter, thus Kim Jong Un, while South Korean names make the third part hyphenated with a lower-case letter, thus Moon Jae-in. I remember once spending lots of time assembling that understanding from widely scattered bits and pieces, along with the insight that some news sites use the South Korean convention for North Korean names probably because they have ultimately South Korean sympathies. The quick way to re-confirm the convention we'd arrived at —as I did on this occasion— is that it's prescribed by my copy of the 2015 AP Style Guide. --Pi zero (talk) 00:24, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I think I did look this up in the 2017 AP Style Guide a couple of articles back, but I don't remember off the top off my head. I do remember Escape from Camp 14 referring to its author as Shin Ingeun and Shin Dong-hyuk within the same work, though that's a long-form work. 00:37, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Feels rather crazy to have two different styles for Korean names, regardless of what AP says. We are the English speakers, we should be able to anglicize in any style we choose. Do we really believe Korea, China or whomever cares what we think when they style proper English names in their script? Also, if Kim Jong Un is what we prefer, why is the category Kim Jong-un? And why on Earth would we adopt a style that is different from literally every English wiki-project as evidenced by the Wikidata entry Q56226? Who are we aiming to please with this unnecessary complication? --SVTCobra 13:22, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
 * "Do we really believe Korea, China or whomever cares what we think when they style proper English names in their script?" Actually, yes. And any wikinewsie knowing that I edit multiple wikinews projects would be aware of it. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 00:24, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * If en.wp gets it wrong there's a good chance the others would just by imitation; and if en.wp had a motive for getting it wrong, as I've speculated some of the news services might, that would make it even more likely for the others to do the same because they might share the motive. I see on the Wikidata page that there's no such universal agreement across languages.  --Pi zero (talk) 00:44, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Btw, I think our category is "Kim Jong-un" because when we created it, we were still floundering around trying to figure this out, and by the time we did figure it out we didn't scrape up the time to fix it. --Pi zero (talk) 00:47, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * 103.254.128.130, If you are who we are assumed to believe you are, I find your claim extremely close to complete bullshit. --SVTCobra 00:57, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Pi, there is no right or wrong in this situation. But there is overwhelming consistency for "Kim Jong-un". The New York Times, The Guardian, Encyclopædia Britannica all use the same style. There will always be exceptions like the Library of Congress which uses "Kim Chŏng-ŭn" ... Hmmm, that looks even more 'authentic', why don't we go with LoC? ... Sorry for the sarcasm at the end. --SVTCobra 01:10, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * You can assume that the IP is used by user:Acagastya, yet fail to check for the contributions of the person who is user:Acagastya. “Acagastya” is not the only account, and that link which you have mentioned, actually that is bullshit because you should be knowing that page would not show projects that are in the incubator. So how about you keep your baseless and incomplete findings up to yourself 103.254.128.130 (talk) 05:16, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, so what? Prove your claims. "Never assume" ... right? But are you saying you are engaging in sockpuppetry? Either way, "any wikinewsie knowing that I edit multiple wikinews projects would be aware of it" is a completely worthless statement, so keep it out of the discussion unless you provide something verifiable. --SVTCobra 05:30, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sockpuppetry is a problem in situations like voting for/against something using multiple accounts, which I don't. And I don't care about what you "completely worthless statement" -- it is for Wikinewsies. You show up after ages, and expect to know everything that happened while you were gone? 103.254.128.130 (talk) 06:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Again, you contribute nothing to this discussion. Stop it, please. --SVTCobra 06:42, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, just like every time, you assume something, I reply to it, and you ask me to stop. A typical day on enwn in 2018. 103.254.128.130 (talk) 08:54, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * This seems a typical example of how discussions are likely to go wrong when allowed to become personal. (To be clear, I do not see this as caused by any one person, but I think a solution, at least for interactions between you two, might be brought about by both of you, each acting as an individual)  Looking above, the first IP comment was reasonably on-topic, though in retrospect also maybe a bit edgy and a bit first-person-y; SVT's response took that first-person-ality and focused on it, and the digression builds like a pearl forming around a speck of dust.  Suggestion: both of you work at trying to be less inflamatory, and less personal, than the other; if both sides are trying to do that, the conversation can become inherently stable, tending always towards being on-topic (rather than unstably tending off-topic).  --Pi zero (talk) 12:07, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * 103.254.128.130, I asked you to stop posting replies that don't contribute to the conversation. What is the merit of claiming that you edit multiple Wikinews projects and that is evidence of how we should style Korean names? BTW, you should probably post all your usernames some place, so we can be sure you are not reviewing your own work. --SVTCobra 15:36, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Not everyone uses that style. Besides my 2015 AP Style Guide, I noticed at least one of the sources of this article uses "Kim Jong Un" (Reuters, iirc). And I see it as very significant why a great many publications would do that. It smells thoroughly political. What my 2015 AP Style Guide says, precisely, is
 * The style and spelling of names in North Korea and South Korea follow each government's standard policy for transliterations unless the subject has a personal preference. North Korean names are written as three separate words, each starting with a capital letter[...]

If that's right, the widespread use of "Kim Jong-un" is an act of unified political defiance against the North Korean government. A second layer is, of course, that one or the other government (or both) might be deliberately using a different convention than the other; but it does seem that using the conventions preferred by the respective governments is the least politicized position we can take. --Pi zero (talk) 12:32, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, the political sword swings both ways. One could just as easily say that it's the DPRK just wanting to be different and following their wishes — in lieu of adopting a consistent style — is kowtowing to their whims. Keep in mind, we call the countries North Korea and South Korea, which is a style neither country endorses. We are not — and should not — be beholden to foreign governments when it comes to using our English language. Take the city of Kiev as an example. Ukraine says it should be Kyiv. Well, they can cry all they want. (A little aside here, even though they share the same basic alphabet, Russia doesn't even spell it the same as Ukraine does.) --SVTCobra 15:28, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I did specifically remark that either or both governments could have deliberately chosen to differ on this; and my wording was carefully chosen when I wrote "it does seem [...] the least politicized position". Sometimes the least political choice one can make is to acknowledge who is actually in charge of a country.  This has all been strongly reminding me, for several rounds back in the discussion, of the choice of "Myanmar" versus "Burma".  --Pi zero (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I have been trying, without much success, to find if there was a style before the Koreas were divided. In addition to Burma/Myanmar, there's Peking/Beijing, Bombay/Mumbai, but I think the common thread in adopting those changes was it represented a fundamental change in the pronunciation. --SVTCobra 16:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Tbh I don't think it matters whether there was a standard before, but in any case my guess would be there wasn't. --Pi zero (talk) 16:20, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

The real trick seems to be whether this is a matter of national variants of language (like British and American English), in which case we'd focus on internal consistency, or whether it's about proper nouns, in which case we'd go with the individual's preference. Darkfrog24 (talk) 23:02, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Names aren't quite like anything else. Individual preference matters especially, but in this case we're only discussing transliteration anyway so the individual might not have a preference.  --Pi zero (talk) 23:55, 8 May 2018 (UTC)


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Just out of curiosity, why do we need this file? •–• 10:31, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * From the "what links here" it seems to have been a stalled project about news about Wikinews. Might come back if we become a really big site.--SVTCobra 10:43, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * We also use it in the WN:newsroom--SVTCobra 11:33, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Internal news about Wikinews, apparently. Since we don't publish news about ourselves in the modern era; cf. Relevance.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:41, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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Hi. The page you'd created appeared to be simply amplifying the voice of some site; no independent perspective. We don't publish press releases. There was no independent source, nor grounds for considering the one source trust-worthy.

For a compact overview of what we do here, see Pillars of writing. Then, there's a tutorial on writing a first article at Writing an article. --Pi zero (talk) 16:40, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2018-14
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
 * Octicons-tools.svg The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.

Problems
 * MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week.
 * The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
 * Octicons-tools.svg User subpages ending in  will now be protected from other people editing them, like   and   pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like   to do this without concerns.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time.
 * Octicons-tools.svg AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks.
 * In Special:Preferences, the preference "" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist.
 * You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed.
 * You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 3 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 4 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
 * Octicons-tools.svg On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement.

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Tech News: 2018-15
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available. Recent changes
 * Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it.
 * You can now thank users for many more actions than edits to a page. This was one of the top ten requests in the Wishlist Survey last year.
 * The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details.
 * Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left).

Problems
 * The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed.
 * For a week in March rollbacks got both the  and the   tag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).
 * Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits.

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 10 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 11 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The iOS and Android apps will get synced reading lists later in April.

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Tech News: 2018-16
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Changes later this week
 * Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons ( and  ) will be affected leaving the values unchanged.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 17 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 18 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3.
 * Octicons-tools.svg Volunteer developers can fill out the Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey. The last day is April 22 (UTC). This is a third-party service survey. See the privacy statement.

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Tech News: 2018-17
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * All Wikipedias now have Page Previews.
 * The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
 * The icons in the 2010 wikitext editor have changed.
 * The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press . This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressing   is not the last step.

Changes later this week
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 24 April at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 25 April at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May.
 * The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).

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Tech News: 2018-18
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links.

Problems
 * Octicons-tools.svg We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator.

Changes later this week
 * You will be able use CodeMirror in the 2017 wikitext editor on all wikis. CodeMirror helps with syntax highlighting. It has previously been a beta feature and only available on wikis with scripts that are written from left to right.
 * When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date.
 * Octicons-tools.svg You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly.
 * Octicons-tools.svg There is a new abuse filter function called . You can use it to check if its first argument is equal  to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
 * Octicons-sync.svg The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).

Meetings
 * Octicons-sync.svg You can join the next meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 1 May at 18:30 (UTC). See how to join.
 * Octicons-sync.svg Octicons-tools.svg You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 2 May at 15:00 (UTC). See how to join.

Future changes
 * The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jhare@undefinedwikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
 * Octicons-tools.svg All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018.

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Twitter advising all users to change passwords after glitch
Hi. I (finally; yikes) reviewed your article. It looked not bad for a first submission to Wikinews; it did have some internal problems, as well as having unfortunately not gotten reviewed in time. Hopefully you can get some learning-experience value out of it and reapply that to future submissions; as a practical matter, the better you get at producing high-quality, easy-to-review articles, and the more of a reputation you earn for doing so, the better the changes of your submissions getting reviewed faster. Anyway, place see my review comments. Cheers. :-) --Pi zero (talk) 13:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:RockerballAustralia/Archive 14

Review ?
There are two Australian news in the review queue that I wrote. I am experimenting with identifying local information (I am in New South Wales) and reporting it. Perhaps you could take a look?

Also several original reporting pieces that I have no idea what to do with. Would be really nice to salvage some of this on time.

Thank you.

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Caboolture capture 2017–18 cricket premiership on Australia's Sunshine Coast
Something went dreadfully wrong here. I'd noticed you were editing an article, and then was puzzled that it never showed up on the review queue. Then, moments ago, George Ho renamed the article to use a hyphen instead of a slash, and suddenly there it is on the review queue — a whole week after it was written. Do you have any thoughts on what to do about this situation? --Pi zero (talk) 02:20, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
 * The only problem with the article as far as I can see is the freshness. I tend to agree with your review comment. TBH I wasn't expecting it to hang around for so long given that I wrote it on the Monday after the game.
 * I'd like to see the discussion on the talk page hang around as a record of what went on. I'm not sure how we'd do that.
 * I'm wondering if there is a precedent for ignoring the rules in a case like this. Either way I'd not be upset --RockerballAustralia contribs 07:38, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, I'm Niels! I live in the Netherlands. I don't really edit on the English Wikinews, but I'm a writer on the Dutch version of the wiki. Check out my account over there.

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NASA's InSight lander and MarCO craft launch in new mission to Mars

May 7, 2018

On Saturday, launched a  rocket carrying 's ' Mars lander and two ' (MarCO) miniature spacecraft known as. The pre-dawn launch from  in  was declared a success. This was the very first deep space launch from the west coast of the United States, and aimed to send a lander to the surface of the planet Mars to study its interior.

Launched alongside InSight were two MarCO cubesats, the first to be sent beyond Earth, nicknamed 'WALL-E' and 'Eve' after the protagonists of the 2008 animated science fiction film . They were designed as a dual telecommunications relay for InSight during the spacecraft's descent through the Martian atmosphere.

Traditionally, NASA launched interplanetary spacecraft at in Florida on the United States' east coast. There, rockets were sent eastward over the, borrowing the Earth's rotational velocity to shoot their payloads out into the solar system. Due to congestion on the launch calendar at Canaveral, NASA chose to launch the spacecraft from from Vandenberg Air Force Base on the country's west coast instead. A launch eastward from Vandenberg would have been dangerous due to densely populated areas being located downrange. Instead, rockets launched from Vandenberg were sent in a south-southeast trajectory. For Insight and MarCO, the spacecraft was placed in a temporary after the launch, with the pair being shot towards Mars during a escape burn performed over the North Pole.

Despite a heavy fog settling in at the rocket's launch pad in Lompoc, the United Launch Alliance declared a "100% chance of favorable weather for liftoff". Spectators in Lompoc were treated to a mostly obscured view of the launch, though they were witness nonetheless to the sound and shock waves of the Atlas V's as it lifted the spacecraft off the ground on-schedule at 4:05  (1105 ). People along the coast of southern and northern Baja California, however, were in clear view of the Atlas V's main engine burn and the first burn of the rocket's. People in were treated to the sight of InSight and the Centaur almost eclipsing the planet  in the night sky. The recently-inaugurated Administrator of NASA,, congratulated the InSight team in an address televised live on after the launch, along with the United Launch Alliance on what was their 128th successful launch in a row. The InSight mission part of NASA's, a class of low-cost solar system exploration missions. It was selected to launch in the program after beating the ' and ' proposals amongst responses to a 2010 request.

Both InSight and the MarCO cubesats are en route to Mars. InSight carries eight scientific instruments, including a known as  (SEIS). The SEIS instrument will be recording the very first seismic measurements of Mars, which scientists hope will shed light on the structure of Mars beneath its surface. The lander was equipped with two cameras, based on the architecture of the 's and, to allow mission scientists to monitor the activity of the instruments. NASA scheduled a November 26 landing for InSight on a broad plain in the planet's northern hemisphere, known as.


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User talk:64.107.219.160

Your comment at User talk:Jimbo Wales
You speak of issues over at Wikipedia. This is Wikinews, a different project. I suggest you submit your grievances at w:Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. If that fails, there is always Dispute resolution over at Meta. --SVTCobra 18:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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Your comment at User talk:Jimbo Wales
You speak of issues over at Wikipedia. This is Wikinews, a different project. I suggest you submit your grievances at w:Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. If that fails, there is always Dispute resolution over at Meta. --SVTCobra 18:51, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

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Category talk:National Security Agency

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Fill this category Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 21:00, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * BellSouth denies phone records were handed over to the NSA because the NSA is one of the two subjects of the article.
 * President Bush of the United States authorized NSA surveillance of citizens, bypassing court warrants because it is about the activities of the NSA.
 * Federal judge rules warrantless wiretaps illegal because the NSA was one of the defendants.
 * USA Today reports NSA obtained call logs from communications companies because the NSA is the main actor in this story.
 * United States Justice Department opens investigation into White House leaks because the leaks were about the activities of the NSA.
 * Electronic Frontier Foundation files motion to stop AT&T from forwarding Internet traffic to NSA because the NSA is a major actor in this story.
 * Verizon says customer phone records were not handed over to the NSA because the NSA is a major element of the story.
 * United States spies accused of illegally bugging the United Nations headquarters because the NSA was the accused agency.
 * NSA to participate in U.S. cybersecurity
 * President Bush defends NSA domestic intercepts
 * Edward Snowden in talks to return to United States because Snowden worked for the NSA.
 * Legislators in US states call for the impeachment of President Bush because they cited the "illegal" authorization of the NSA.
 * Former NSA employee alleges illegal spying because it’s obvious.
 * VP Cheney role surfaces in U.S. domestic spying because it involved the activities of the NSA.
 * Gore criticizes use of unwarranted domestic wiretaps because the story is about the NSA wiretaps.
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Talk:NASA's InSight lander and MarCO craft launch in new mission to Mars

Review of revision 4404510 [Passed]

 * Imho your work on the lede here would be one of those cases where, as a reviewer, one couldn't do that much regularly but can push the limits a bit on a specific occasion whilst helping a newcomer learn. Every great once in a while I do that sort of limit-pushing myself (when it seems a good investment, considering the reporter).  --Pi zero (talk)
 * Pi, see what you think about the title, the author complained that I said NASA launches, not ULA who is the contractor that did the Atlas rocket bit. If we need to change, let's do it as quickly as possible. Cheers, --SVTCobra 17:17, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Done; I actually drafted a minimally intrusive change myself, and it came out substantially identical to PhilipTerryGraham's suggestion. It admittedly was an odd feeling to read a headline starting 'NASA launches' and then the lede starts by saying 'United Launch Alliance launched'.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:03, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Of the massive task of review, the biggest part is the in-depth source-check, whose primary function is to verify every claim of fact in the article based on the cited sources. We tend to put a great deal of effort into documenting why we do things during review, and in this case the stuff about 11th and 12th was not found by the reviewer (in fact, I looked too and didn't succeed in verifying it either). If the reviewer doesn't succeed in verifying it, it must not be published; that's the nature of review. If the reviewer cuts information from the article for this reason, and the reporter wishes to restore it, the reporter should offer help on where to find the information in the cited sources, or the like. I earnestly recommend against being rude to the reviewer (a volunteer who puts in a massive effort for the sake of someone else's submission). --Pi zero (talk) 20:11, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

 * I see you have further objections to some of the edits I made during my review:
 * Discovery program sequence numbers: I removed because I did not see those numbers in the sources. With 9 sources, it is entirely possible that I simply missed it, but if I don't see it, I can't include it. However, just tell me which source it is in and I will happily add them back / sight your re-add.
 * "request" → "contest": It is the NASA source that seems to deal with this and in it says "NASA's Discovery Program requested proposals". Even though there is a prize involved, not once is the word "contest" used.
 * I hope you are online so we can hammer out these differences quickly. Cheers, --SVTCobra 20:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I don’t understand. Most of these basic facts about the Discovery program can be looked up on associated Wikipedia articles, though. It’s that easy to research. InSight is the 12th mission, and 11th successful after one failure (CONTOUR), and NASA chooses its Discovery and New Frontiers candidates through competitions. Institutions submit proposals, some go through as “finalists”, and winners are chosen. Contest by definition. In either case, I have never heard competitions be referred to as “requests”... that’s just bizzare. —PhilipTerryGraham (talk) 22:09, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As a Wikipedian, I am sure you know that Wikis and other user-edited sites are not accepted as reliable sources on Wikipedia ... same here. Sorry, mate. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:21, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as why there might be a difference between "requesting proposals" yet offering a reward like a contest, consider an academic scholarship to a university. Students are submitting entries hoping to get the 'prize' of a scholarship, but would you call that a "contest"? Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:32, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is inherently not useable as a source. If you see a fact on Wikipedia and want to use it here, you have to find and cite a trust-worthy source for the information.  Sometimes, Wikipedia itself appears to provide such a source, which might serve your purpose, but often the source that appears to be cited for the claim you're interested in does not, in fact, verify that claim. Btw, the licenses are not compatible from Wikipedia to Wikinews, so don't copy text from Wikipedia to here (it's a violation of Wikipedia's license to do so).  --Pi zero (talk) 22:44, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (Of course, there is no rational reason why Wikipedia couldn't use Wikinews articles (in the modern era) as sources, but there are strong emotional and political reasons for them to refuse to do so.) --Pi zero (talk) 23:19, 7 May 2018 (UTC)


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