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Afghanistan: Ambulance suicide attack kills about 100 people in Kabul

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On Saturday, an ambulance laden with explosives was driven past a police checkpoint in Afghanistan's capital Kabul. As the ambulance entered a "secure zone" of the city the ambulance detonated. According to the latest updates, at least one hundred people were killed and around 200 injured. The Taliban has claimed responsibility for the attack.  { "type": "FeatureCollection", "features": [ {     "type": "Feature", "properties": {}, "geometry": { "type": "Point", "coordinates": [ 69.169167,         34.526944        ]      }    }  ] } The blast occurred near midday. The ambulance had cleared one checkpoint, but was found out at a second checkpoint. It was here the driver detonated the explosives before police could stop him. This is according to Interior Ministry spokesman Nasrat Rahimi, who also said the nearby ministry building was the apparent target. The driver had claimed to be taking a patient to Jamhuriat Hospital. Mirwais Yasini, a member of the, was nearby when it happened. He agreed that the Interior Ministry was the intended target, however, most of the victims were people in the busy streets, he told Reuters.

Wahid Majrooh of the confirmed the number of causalities. Witnesses told the BBC that the streets were crowded at the time of the explosion. Dejan Panic, who works for Italian-based, coordinates a trauma center which treated dozens of the wounded and called it a "massacre" when speaking to Reuters.

United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres' office released a statement: "Indiscriminate attacks against civilians are a serious violation of human rights and humanitarian laws, and can never be justified." Chief executive of Afghanistan, Abdullah Abdullah wrote on Twitter: "We condemn this terrorist act and share the sorrows and loses of our people. Our priority and focus right now is to help those in need and provide the best treatment for those wounded."

Zabiullah Mujahid, a spokesperson for the Taliban in Afghanistan, claimed responsibility on behalf of the fundamentalist group.

, head of the, said in a statement: "I am particularly disturbed by credible reports that the attackers used a vehicle painted to look like an ambulance, including bearing the distinctive medical emblem, in clear violation of international humanitarian law."


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This happened before Wednesday's sentencing. The scandal has been brewing for a while. But it is hitting a boiling point now. Cheers, --SVTCobra 18:35, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * My purpose was to restrict the statement to before, rather than after, the sentencing. Perhaps that can be phrased better (I'll consider).  But it needs to be limited so as to exclude later fallout, if we're to consider this article still fresh on Saturday.  --Pi zero (talk) 18:42, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * All I was saying (and it was written in the version of Jan. 24) that ahead of the sentencing which happened Wednesday, those board members resigned two days before on Monday. It has nothing to do with the follow-up article which is about the resignation of the rest of the board. In retrospect, we can now see that they perhaps knew that the shit was about to hit the proverbial fan, but it was not written with any retrospect. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:14, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * Preliminary check against sourced turned up a bunch of over-similarities. There were also verification problems perhaps due to revision of sources.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:34, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

 * I did see it took you an inordinately long time to chew through this one. Sorry about that. I am shocked that you couldn't find MSU gymnastics and crew. I will look into that. As far as this diff, it is nearly unavoidable to use the same language as everyone else when that's how it's said. It feels like changing "guilty of murder" to "guilt for murder". I didn't really see a problem. Cheers, and thanks for your time today. --SVTCobra 22:30, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Wow, all of the sources have changed. Astonishingly, Reuters keeps the January 24 date on the article, even though they talk about things that happened on the 25th and 26th. But I think it is this "For years, Nassar treated gymnasts and other athletes in an official capacity for USA Gymnastics, Michigan State University and a private gymnastics club." from LA Times that changed. I distinctly remember "crew" being mentioned and thought that was odd because the sports are so unrelated. And I do not remember anything about private gymnastics clubs. Methinks LA Times got something wrong. Anyway, at least it's not in our published article if it was blatantly false that he treated crew (rowing) team members. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:59, 27 January 2018 (UTC)


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Thank you (?) but what is your source for the update in numbers? Wikipedia is not acceptable as a source, I hope you know. Cheers, --SVTCobra 22:19, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Go to the reference list for the Wikipedia page. I included the link for the specific reference.The Nth User (talk) 22:27, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Eh, if you are going to change a Wikinews article, it is incumbent on you to list the sources. You can't just demand I need to hunt them down from the long list of references on Wikipedia. --SVTCobra 22:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I am sorry, but the 3 sources we currently have, do update on the situation. Some as recently as 30 minutes ago. All 3 agree on these numbers. Wikipedia has a single source from India claiming a higher number. That doesn't fly here, sorry Nth. --SVTCobra 23:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I figured that the other sources just hadn't been updated recently. The source just below it also said that over 100 people had been killed, but after I looked at it, which I didn't do the first time, I saw that it said that 95 people died.The Nth User (talk) 00:29, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No worries. Hey, if you want to write news, we can use more contributors. --SVTCobra 00:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Casualty count
We avoid building death tolls into headlines for a breaking story, as it's an invitation to post-publish renaming which we dislike. --Pi zero (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I know, Pi zero. This morning it was changing constantly, but it stabilized for many hours on 95. --SVTCobra 22:38, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Our sources are updating and they stay at same number. Wikipedia has one source with a higher number. --SVTCobra 23:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * No copyedits? --Pi zero (talk) 21:16, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * There are no spelling or grammar issues that I can see. The information doesn't seem to be copied, is verified by the sources (I did wonder to question whther so many sources were needed but I don't think its a major issue), and flows fairly well from describing the incident to the response from the NGO, the UNAM rep, the UN Sec-Gen. There isn't any POV-ishness but straightforward reporting. Overall, I'm sure someone will find an error(s) soon, but I was satisfied it met the requirements. Green Giant (talk) 21:25, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Which Taliban claimed the responsibility? •–• 21:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, we have to assume it was the Afghan Taliban (based on the location) but none of the sources specifies the branch. I would have to look it up but I seem to recall adding something to a Wikipedia article about an arrangement between the two branches that they don’t stray into each other’s area of operations. However, we shouldn’t speculate in the article. Green Giant (talk) 22:13, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * To be honest, I do not fully understand the meaning of Acagastya's question. Can more details about this be found back anywhere in the given sources, or are other sources still missing here for it? If so, it can just be added to the article here. Otherwise, no speculations about the responsible Taliban division must be made here, of course. Anyway, I think we can in any case assume that it was the Taliban, unless this news turns out to be a big hoax. De Wikischim (talk) 22:18, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the article say, toward the bottom iirc, that it's the Taliban in Afghanistan? --Pi zero (talk) 22:19, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The lede says "The Taliban has claimed responsibility for the attack." -- the branch of Taliban must be mentioned here. And as a news org, one should avoid speculations/assumptions. •–• 22:29, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes and no. Although CNN names him, the branch can be assumed on the basis of the identity (however shadowy) of the spokesperson i.e. he is known to comment on Afghan Taliban events in eastern Afghanistan. If you read the WP article about him, note that there is uncertainty about his actual identity, and even whether it is one person. That’s why I think it’s better to be cautious about saying it is definitely the Afghan branch. However, it’s not exactly the same as we might assume with Sarah Huckabee Sanders (WH Press Sec), who would definitely be speaking for the US Gov. the question was referring to which one of the two main Taliban groups (Afghan and Pakistani) was behind the attack. Green Giant (talk) 23:04, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I think it is self-evident that the Taliban in question is the so-called Category:Afghan Taliban. Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan is by no means considered to be equal to that in Afghanistan. If fact it is not even a single group, more of a umbrella term of loose affiliations. Furthermore, if this is not immediately clear to the reader, clicking the link will clarify it to them. It is similar to why we don't specify that Paris is not Paris, Texas. Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:55, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

We should, because, just like how SC means Supreme Court for a billion people, but some 300 million people know it as South Carolina — content has to be for global audience and these things needs to be explained properly. This is equivalent to WP:BLUE and WP:NOTBLUE in some extent. 223.237.228.204 (talk) 20:22, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * From my experience in migrating articles out of our deprecated Category:Taliban, "Taliban" in articles about Afghanistan are pretty much always the Afghan Taliban, while "Taliban" in articles about Pakistan might be either the Afghan or Pakistani Taliban though they're most frequently the latter. As noted somewhere above (iirc), sometimes the distinction can be sorted out by a reference to some secondary person in the story, such as a spokesman, whose affiliation is known.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:00, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Utter nonsense, 223.237.228.204. SC is not universal for Supreme Court, notwithstanding the "billion people" in India. BTW, I don't think English is first language for all of them. Secondly, the Taliban ruled Afghanistan for quite some time. Their little 'sisters' (if we can call them that) in Pakistan operate in the margins.--SVTCobra 21:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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 * The map is working fine. I tried two different browsers. Are you on mobile? --SVTCobra 13:03, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
 * No, browsing via laptop. •–• 13:11, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you so much to add the out of context BJP reaction to the article, and following the lead of other Indian news orgs, to dump everything into one article, making Wikinews no different from the shithole companies, which are politically biased to the core. Thank you for choosing the article, written by the user who wrote on Wikinews because xe hated Indian media, to tell how this project is a collaboration and multiple authors can actually write together even though one author has no clue about the political conditions between two parties, that too, leaving facts hanging, and endorsing the bullshit BJP and Congress spread and that is the only thing they do, way more than the work any party actually does.


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Oh, I see how it is, now. Your POV is the NPOV, right? One sentence that mentions a complaint from the BJP in 6 of 8 sources which you listed amounts to "fucking up NPOV". Well, tell me, then. Why was BJP's opinion left out of the article? Is that neutral?


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Yes it is. Indian media is full of political bias. The article is to inform about the problem between states, the history, what happened, what schools and transportation services did, what people not affected by the river (who rely on different river) did after ex-CM’s comment, what city ambassador said, and how people supported the idea of bandh. It had nothing to do with opinions of political parties. There were bands for water issues during BJP government, and they were during Congress government. The farmers suffer, politicians blame each other, media exploits the childish debates go get more views and make money by mixing need to call for a protest and what politicians blatantly accused each other without any proof. And just like the Indian media, who cares for views by adding political opinions in almost every single news article, English Wikinews did the same.


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So why was the bandh on the same day as Amit Shah's rally? Why is the next one on Narendra Modi's day in Bangalore? Are you really telling me that is not anti-BJP action? Anyway, who are they protesting against, then? Karnataka needs water, but the river also starts there. People want canals. So who are they protesting against? In my view, the ruling BJP party. You are young. Soon you will learn that everything is a political opinion. It's harsh but true. P.S. I almost went to Goa last year, but if you cut off the water, let me know. Thanks.


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People want the central government to interfere. When there was BJP in state and congress at centre, there were bandhs. In 2016, when there was no rally there was bandh; Shah’s role was only because of the upcoming state election. They do not care for the state until the election season. His mere presence in this state was for the election and that constitutes for an entirely different focus. Why it happened on that particular day? I don’t know. January 26 is National holiday. Saturday is many people’s day off, and there would be relatively less activity and that would not appear as a protest. I believe that is the reason they had to shift from Saturday to Thursday.


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Thread:Comments:India: Karnataka closed for a day for protests over Mahadayi river share/Thank you for fucking up the NPOV, and shifting the focus, and incomplete information/reply (5)

BTW, if (as you say) the overwhelming majority of Karntaka is in favor of fixing the water situation and they need the central government to make it happen, how does a bandh help? Especially, when it is local. To me it just seems like it hurts the local economy. Wouldn't it be more efficient to send a bunch of people to New Delhi with banners and flags?


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Some suggestions.
 * Small changes can greatly improve things. When the original objection was raised here, there would still have been time to make a surgical adjustment to the article to improve it.
 * Leaving information out of an article is a dubious way to achieve neutrality; on the face of it, leaving out the BJP's objections because you don't agree doesn't seem neutral. If you are deliberately leaving out something under such circumstances, it'd be a good idea to leave a note on the collaboration page explaining it — not only for the reviewer (though I missed this issue during review, alas), but also for some third party such as came along in this case.
 * I don't think the outcome is direly problematic.
 * The objection at the start of this thread would have been more useful all around if it had confined itself to discussing ways of improving the neutrality of the article, treating SVTCobra as a colleague who shares that goal (which they are). It's even possible that SVTCobra also would have done better to have more confidence in the neutrality of the article to start with, which suggests that in fact the article may have suffered (somewhat) from the two of you not having enough confidence in each other.
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Yeah, I didn't bring the discussion here. I think it may have been due to the logged-in user protection thing. Though I don't think it applies to collaboration pages, but I may be wrong. Anyway, it is not unusual to see a young person ideologically driven. It's probably useful for the world that they have this passion. But passion can lead to oversights and missteps, and that's what old people like me try to correct. I did what I did out of concern for NPOV. If I had wanted to shred the article, I probably could have done so. It would not have been hard to find sources to cast this in a different light.


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I realize you were concerned about neutrality. I had reviewed the article, though, and I didn't think there was a problem, or I wouldn't have passed it. As I say, I don't think the final outcome here is disastrous. I'm just wondering — this is a subtle effect — if your lack of faith in acagastya's grasp of neutrality made you more inclined to perceive a problem in this case.


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TBH. 100% honest. It was the disappointment when not all cities in the state observed bandh. It was sincere (but betrayed a POV) and described as a "flop". Don't know if you recall that message.


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Having an opinion does not imply non-neutral news writing. An intelligent person generally does have an opinion, but if they understand how to write neutrally for Wikinews, their opinion should rarely get in the way of their writing, and they'll usually know when it's a problem. (I remember brianmc declining to write about the Scottish independence referendum.)


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 * OK, well tinkering causes problems with Source-science, which just makes more work. I have reset the PMID template and created a new one at PMID2. Please replace as above but with . Green Giant (talk) 01:14, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * What does Source-science have to do with it? I'm asking because I want to understand, and afaict Source-science doesn't use PMID.
 * When I changed the PMID template, it caused an error on several pages which are already using Template:PMID e.g. on American Academy of Pediatrics supports dairy for lactose intolerant children, it causes the PubMed link in the Sources to display like this: [ PMID:16951027 PubMed ] rather than a normal external link as it is doing currently. This would need a change on Template:Source-science which would make more work than necessary for already-stretched admins. So I figured it’s easier to just have a separate template. Green Giant (talk) 02:41, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * In the long run it generally pays to find a clean solution. By my count, there are only seven pages that use PMID, and only 31 that use source-science.  Likely I can straighten it out pretty straightforwardly, perhaps sometime tomorrow (it's getting late, tonight), so we'll end up with a standard PMID instead of an increasingly peculiar infrastructure.  --Pi zero (talk) 03:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, same here. I’ll be thinking more clearer with some sleep. Green Giant (talk) 03:09, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I've rearranged things so I could slide the new template into the standard name, but then modified it because it seemed like we wanted a space separator instead of a colon separator. That last bit might turn out to be something to undo.  --Pi zero (talk) 05:01, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
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ABANDONED? - It is impossible to get any work done around here
I am preserving here some of the information that I posted as edit summaries on articles that I just found out are scheduled for deletion. Instead of being left alone to try and improve articles, I am spending my time right now trying to figure which of my articles (some of which have been renamed seeral times), have been proposed for deletion and asking for them to be userified:

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09:09, 6 November 2017 (diff | hist). . (+12) . . Japanese Knotweed discovered on Google's Dublin docklands headquarters  (I need those articles because their talk-pages are the the only up-to-date working instruction available on wikinews) (current)

09:05, 6 November 2017 (diff | hist). . (+12) . . Ottawa narrows short list of Innovation Superclusters  (userify please, again) (current)

09:05, 6 November 2017 (diff | hist). . (+12) . . Travel from Canada to the United States continues to decline  (When did all this happen? Looks like pretty much all my articles have been declared abandoned) (current)

09:02, 6 November 2017 (diff | hist). . (+12) . . CMHC Canada's housing agency undergoes stress tests  (came here to keep improving articles I wrote previously, but spending my time trying to save my previous work instead (userify please)) (current)

08:57, 6 November 2017 (diff | hist). . (+11) . . Buyers in Canada will soon require higher incomes to buy a home  (need to preserve comments such as this : "There should not be facts in the article that aren't in the sources when the article is submitted") (current) --- Ottawahitech (talk) 09:23, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

 * And, while I am posting here I see an IP posted a question to my talkpage (have not read it yet)! to do with this issue. PLEASE EVERYONE, I Aam just one person and my priority is/was to do some work on the articles I started working on, not to participate in unending discussion necessitated by the unfamiliar rules. Ottawahitech (talk) 09:34, 6 November 2017 (UTC) Which reminds me: Is there documentation anywhere explaining ABANDONED ARTICLES: when what who why and how? Ottawahitech (talk) 09:39, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

 * I see one of the reviewers has just reverted a request from me to userify an article I started which the same reviewer sent to ABANDONED-purgatgory earlier. It would be nice if instead the reviewer found time to answer my questions instead of creating make work for good-faith editors trying to participate? repeat question: Is there documentation anywhere explaining ABANDONED ARTICLES: when what who why and how?Ottawahitech (talk) 14:57, 11 November 2017 (UTC) please ping me
 * Just to let you know, you marked an article abandoned which was edited earlier today. And the revert was for an article which had no meaningful content to use userified. It is still tagged abandoned. You might be looking for WN:ABANDON. By the way, there is not AGF on Wikinews. •–• 15:06, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, but I'm afraid it is very hard to change the policy here as long as the project remains undercrowded. Currently there are only 2 active reviewers. De Wikischim (talk) 20:59, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Cold wave in Canada and US
Currently, there is an extreme cold wave in both Canada and the US. This is a news item worth writing about. There must surely be enough sources available. It seems there is no corresponding article yet on Wikipedia. If Wikinews is fast enough, it can prove itself this time as a real news site. De Wikischim (talk) 20:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * From time to time you say things that indicate you think we are somehow in competition with Wikipedia. We are not.  They do not attempt to do what we do, and we do not attempt to do what they do.  Above you also evidently suggest that somehow Wikinews needs to prove, through competition with Wikipedia, that it is a "real news site"; we don't need to prove it because we already are one, and if we did need to prove it, any comparison/contrast with Wikipedia would be irrelevant since Wikipedia is unequivocally not a news site.  --Pi zero (talk) 21:31, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
 * That said, I am inside that cold wave. It would be great to see it covered.  --Pi zero (talk) 22:05, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


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January 30, 2018 On Sunday, female ice hockey players from North and South Korea joined one another for a training session before the upcoming Winter Olympics. Players from the two Koreas are to compete together as a united team for the events hosted in, South Korea, which are scheduled to start on February 9; Seoul's Unification Ministry said. The cross-border gesture is part of diplomatic efforts to ease tensions on the divided Korean Peninsula and the team was approved by the.

The International Olympic Committee selected Pyeongchang in 2011 to host the event, marking South Korea's first opportunity since the in Seoul. The earlier event was marred by violence as North Korea had several months prior, killing over 100 and boycotted the event. Inter-Korean relations have changed considerably in the ensuing thirty years, including the two sending unified teams for table tennis and youth football in other non-Olympic competitions.

The announcement that the two countries would compete together was a stated goal of South Korean President Moon Jae-in. Last year, he announced the proposal and the two nations went into discussion this month. After two weeks, they made the announcement to field a consolidated 35-strong team of ice hockey players and have joint skiing exercises with both team coaches involved.

According to Yonhap News Agency estimates, about 80% of South Koreans support dialogue, but the move to have a joint team has been controversial. Over 10,000 South Korean citizens sent a petition to South Korean President Moon opposing the union and a group of North Korean held a protest at the South Korean  on January 24, tearing apart photos of the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-un. Public support for eventual reunification of the Korean peninsula has waned in recent years, with the younger generation more skeptical of the possibility.


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It seems that it took forever to do this because of the chemicals required to transfer the DNA across. Interesting. It would be nice to know which chemicals were used and what was the path to finding the right chemicals too.


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I'd like to review this, but sadly 3 of the sources are pay-walled for me. --SVTCobra 13:56, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Which three? I'm guessing that the NYT is two of them, so I am removing them. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:20, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * How about the current edition? Mostly, only the sources changed. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:37, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Justin, the really old NYT was ok (I guess they felt they'd squeezed enough $$$ from it). It was the two recent ones and the WaPo. (I know this is very late to reply to this). Cheers, --SVTCobra 19:39, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I have made some small changes, including formatting the previous related story. I think that revision 4379341 is good to go. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:09, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "Drastic change" — I am not comfortable with having that mentioned in the article. Seems like a Wikinews is saying it was drastic. Better if one mentions number of times they have paired up. What do you say ? •–• 08:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * "substantially" instead? Alternately, something that explains how they have ebbed and flowed. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:52, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * note that something that I am not okay with, it would not affect reviewers decision, since I am not a reviewer now. •–• 09:04, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * but tbh, last line seems it is opinion. There should be some facts listed to support the claim. Or an attributed quote is fine CC •–•  09:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Do you suggest I go back to working on it? —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * No, don't pull it out of review queue, because I am not a reviewer -- I can just suggest. BTW, I found this source, which I was going to use for the newest development of the story, you can see photos of people burning photos of Kim Jong-un. That might be a worthy inclusion. •–• 09:18, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Great. I have a handful of sources about the polling issue and I can update the article to be a cancellation of the joint session now, actually. Thanks,. Once a reviewer gives feedback, I will update the article accordingly. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I have already created/ and started working on the cancellation article -- Winter Olympics 2018: N Korea cancels joint performance with S Korea. What the sources claim -- only the cultural event is cancelled. I am not sure if the joint team event is cancelled or not. If you do that, (depending on the depth of information) the update article would not be publishable. So, if you are going to, please make sure you explain the context in the lower half of pyramid, and not shift the focus. •–•  09:22, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Note to self: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/27/south-north-korea-unification, https://thediplomat.com/2015/01/the-generation-gap-on-korean-unification/ , http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/more-than-half-of-north-korean-defectors-believe-korean-reunification-is-impossible —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:23, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know if I would be able to write about that update story -- don't even know if it is still fresh -- if you want to write about it, I think you should go on. •–• 03:14, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Man, I just got started and realized there is no way I am going to be able to do it myself--I have a weekend job. Thanks for the offer. :/ —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:50, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Goal question
I am reviewing the article but just one little obstacle. Did President Moon make an electoral promise about having a joint team? I can't see it in the sources or his WP page. Cheers. Green Giant (talk) 19:07, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't see anything tying it to an election, just that he stated it in 2017. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4379588 [Passed]

 * Score. Thanks, man. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:14, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Sorry it took a while (busy with some Commons things too). Green Giant (talk) 20:15, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Stuff takes time. Unfortunately, this is the one WMF project that actually has a deadline. :/ See you around the WikiSphere. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:24, 30 January 2018 (UTC)


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Football: Barça centre-back Piqué extends contract until 2022

January 30, 2018

Yesterday, Catalan football club FC Barcelona officially announced the Spanish centre-back Gerard Piqué signed a contract extension which runs through June 2022. , the Spanish international said after the contract extension.

30-year-old Piqué joined Blaugrana through the youth ranks of in 1997 and made his professional debut for Barcelona on August 13, 2008. In his tenure at, the Spaniard international has won three UEFA Champions League titles, six Spanish LaLiga titles, five trophies and three.

Making his international debut in 2009, a year after he returned to Spain after spending four years at Manchester United, Piqué has 94 international, and has won the 2010 in South Africa, as well as the  trophy with La Roja. He won the UEFA Champions League with Manchester United as well.

Piqué has played 425 games in the Catalan jersey and has won 25 trophies with the Barcelona club, five less than Andrés Iniesta and Lionel Messi, who have won the largest number of trophies in the Catalan colours.

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Happy to see your copyedits. I do have one reservation, about the dashes. We've generally preferred the ascii-based  and , because that way it's easy to see at a glance, when looking in the wiki markup, that it's really the character it's meant to be.

Btw, a general-orientation link I recommend (that iirc isn't on the Howdy template, above): Pillars of writing.

Cheers! --Pi zero (talk) 12:53, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Nice to see you edit here, Nadzik. I know I am asking a lot, but could you please put the HTML symbol dashes back in place -- so that one does not have to worry if that dash is a minus, an endash or an emdash?  I would really appreciate it.  You can leave the other edits like uppercasing 'F' in "file" or removing "_" from file names. •–•  13:23, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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 * You are welcome! If there is anything else, please let me know. Cheers! Nadzik (talk) 13:58, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Right now I am just transcribing an interview, so no. :-) •–•  13:59, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

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Amit Shah has various roles to play. He, Narendra Modi, and Rahul Gandhi would be coming to Karnataka for the upcoming state election in late April, or early May. The opinions of Shah like finding the murderers from hell, or the corrupt government, etc can be discussed indefinitely. There is no stopping. Not mentioning it is hiding important information since things are not mentioned in the context, and what is mentioned requires more explanation which would distract the focus. There needs to be a proper flow, and change a lot of things to present that information, which will require significant structural change. The way sati pratha or the pork/beef was discussed in the Triple Talaq article -- there needs to be a clear difference between what is relevant, fresh and to the context, and what is not directly relevant to the story or needs a proper set up. The difference is just like Marvel Cinematic Universe vs DC universe.


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This page should not exist since there are not enough published articles in the category it is redirected to. •–• 05:34, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * This was discussed at the Water cooler. For what it's worth, I think we'll have a couple more Olympics articles by the end of the week. Are you prepared to pass the article I wrote? Koreas hold joint training session for Olympics. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:50, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but until we have the third article ready, it should not be used. TBH, I am currently reviewing the article, however, I can not pass the article. I thought about leaving Wikinews for good, but after TTT, I feel like continuing, and before leaving, I asked Tom Morris to remove my rights -- I need to re-apply for reviewer rights. •–• 06:01, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sorry to see you go but appreciative that you are reviewing my writing. I hope that you're well. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:05, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
 * I just came back for Target300. (a dumb name for my aim, I decided last year, but that is so) •–• 06:20, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

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A user image for a profile that hasn't been completed? It's only a couple of weeks old.
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Football: Manchester United announces extending Juan Mata's contract

February 1, 2018 On Tuesday, English football club Manchester United announced Spanish midfielder has a one-year contract extension with the club. The club triggered the one-year-contract extension clause in Mata's contract which would keep Mata tied with the club until 2019.

Speaking about the Spaniard, Manchester United's manager José Mourinho said Mata is "[a]n important player for me; an important player for the club; an important player for the other players." Juan Mata joined The Red Devils in 2014 on a four-and-half-year contract. Mata made the switch from London club Chelsea FC for then-club record transfer fee 37.1 million under ' management. Mourinho was Chelsea's manager that time.

As of Tuesday, the Spaniard played 172 matches and scored 39 goals for Manchester United, and featured this season in 26 games in all competitions. In his tenure at the, he has won the FA Cup, EFL League Cup as well as the UEFA Europa League trophy.

The 29-year-old midfielder's contract was previously set to expire at the end of the season. Manchester's veteran midfielder is set to retire at the end of the season. Earlier in January, United signed Chilean forward from another London club Arsenal FC, on the expense of Armenian midfielder  in the swap deal. Mourinho, who has been in-charge of Manchester United for one and half years, said they "need to get a player to compensate the situation" of Carrick's retirement.


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For unrelated reasons I just looked at Category:Economy and business and was a little surprised to see that the image is a 16th century painting of an ancient Greek courtesan. I realise it’s been used in this category for about a decade but is it really representative of economy and business. The image would be fine if we had lots of articles about ancient and medieval economies etc. I suggest we replace it something a little more modern like:
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What do you think? Green Giant (talk) 19:12, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Worth thinking about. Eventually, we have in mind for an assistant to suggest images for articles, and the most likely places for an assistant to go to find such images would be categories and infoboxen.  The infobox already has an image (this); it would make sense to have a different image on the category.  That would tend to rule out the first of your suggestions since it's similarly themed.  Of the others, the fourth bothers me because it suggests things always going up.  I'm not immediately enamoured of either of the other two.  Hmm.  --Pi zero (talk) 19:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Hmm, well I suppose there is no hurry. It's just when I look at this category I'm almost expecting news articles about the outcome of the case of the, rumours of rising prices on the or another bumper year for the ! It doesn't say modern economics or business to me. I'm open to suggestions if those four aren't acceptable. Green Giant (talk) 20:05, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Another conceivable candidate: File:NYSE.jpg. I'm still hoping for new inspiration on this.  --Pi zero (talk) 01:32, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Another: File:Банка на Англија - зграда.jpg. (That's the Bank of England.)  --Pi zero (talk) 14:58, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps File:EH1079134 Bank of England 06 (cropped).jpg would work a little better for the Bank of England; the facade just looks like a bank. Though, the ticker photo too is a good option here. —mikemoral (talk) 05:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

We could put a gallery of the above options.

Personally I like option number two, File:Exchange Money Conversion to Foreign Currency.jpg, as it is easiest for me to associate with the subject. For me the second best option is the last image, File:EH1079134 Bank of England 06 (cropped).jpg. The others are difficult to see what is there, either because too small or because they require specialized knowledge to interpret. --Gryllida (talk) 05:05, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

 * I've put in the second option, which I think works very well. The ticker image seems a good choice too; it fits the mental image people not in finance have of trading floors with big screens covered in ever-changing jargon. Leaving the flag up on this one; a long time ago aviation was reworked to cycle between multiple images, and maybe this could have a similar setup. BRS  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:04, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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India: Head of Delhi Commission on Women calls for prompt capital punishment for child rape

February 3, 2018

On Wednesday, following the rape in India's capital, New Delhi, of an eight-month-old girl,, head of the , announced she was beginning a 30-day — a form of non-violent civil protest — to persuade the  to impose the death penalty promptly when offenders rape children. She asked for others to join in her protest action.

As reported in the Indian press on Monday, the baby girl was initially in after she was raped on Sunday at her home in Subhash Nagar in western New Delhi while her parents were at work. According to the police and a statement by the baby's father to the agency, when the mother returned, the baby was crying and was covered in blood. A police spokesman said the baby's 28-year-old cousin was arrested under the and Section 376 of the.

After Ms Maliwal visited the baby's hospital, she tweeted: "How can Delhi sleep today when 8 month baby has been brutally raped in Capital? Have we become so insensitive or we have simply accepted this as our fate?", and addressed Prime Minister Narendra Modi demanding "stricter laws and more police resources" to combat rape. She said the baby's internal injuries were "horrific" and "inhuman" and had required three hours on the operating table to repair, and she could "still hear her screams and cries". Others responded with tweets calling the rape "monstrous" and "disgusting and disturbing".

In a tweeted statement on Wednesday announcing her protest action, Ms Maliwal demanded offenders who rape children should be executed within six months. "I will not go home for 30 days. I will work in the office throughout the day and at night I will inspect different places of Delhi. I will do double work. I will sleep in the office only. I give 30 days' time to accept my demands." She also demanded a 14,000-person expansion of the and improvements to police software and  resources and reform of the prosecution department. She asked "people who understand the severity of such crimes and who really care for their kids" to join her in going house to house throughout Delhi to get the government to meet her demands.

Since the 2012 gang rape and murder of a student on a Delhi bus, there have been widespread protests in India against and calls for heavier penalties for rape. In response the government has made the law stricter and introduced dedicated 'fast-track' courts. Problems persist. There have been other press reports of child rape in the country in recent years, including the kidnapping and rape of a three-month-old in Hyderabad in 2015 and the kidnapping and rape of an eleven-month-old in Delhi in 2016. 2016 statistics list 19,765 child rapes, an 82 per cent increase over the previous year.


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Review of revision 4380018 [Not ready]

 * Yes, I feared as much when I got down to writing this. The BBC even specifically points out that word didn't get out till Monday. The sources emphasise the reaction but don't give much except the one lady. I'll make a quick search for follow-up stories in case there were broader protests reported later. Yngvadottir (talk) 20:34, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4380052 [Not ready]

 * Hmm, good point about the need for a second source: I found only multiple versions of the same AFP article. I did add a point and a half from that source to the "legal" paragraph at the end: increasing seriousness of legal treatment of rape after the wave of protests following the student's rape and death (that had been in at least one of the sources I had already used), and the harshest available punishment being life imprisonment (in only the latest source, I think, and that does relate to the new focus. But I take your point; I had tried to tighten up the account of what happened in this case, but found there was little I could reasonably cut. In fact I considered adding the colostomy bag detail, but became a bit suspicious when searching for that (I was trying to find the AFP article on their site) turned up previous young children with the same detail mentioned, and it hadn't been in the earlier news stories I saw. So thanks, sorry for taking your time, and I still hope it won't be wasted, but a renewed search for new sources will now have to wait for tomorrow UTC. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:15, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Further source now apparently offline
The additional source I had originally intended to add today was "30-day satyagraha after baby rape" at The Telegraph of India, dated February 1. However, it seems to have been taken down. I don't know whether anyone else can see it at this Google cache URL. I had intended to use it to add a statistic about violence against women, and the background that satyagraha was introduced as a technique by Gandhi, and that article also includes further statements by Maliwal, presumably exclusive to their reporter, that would offset the reliance on Twitter. However, it appears to be unsalvageable, and this is getting stale again, so I'm using the January 31 source instead. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:43, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Review of revision 4380382 [Passed]

 * I somehow left out of the above review comments the single most important point about this review: the headline and article both clearly said, when submitted, that she was calling for the introduction of the death penalty for child rape, but two of the sources (admittedly, not independent of each other on this point) said there already was a death penalty for rape, since the reforms following the 2012 case.  I weakened the claims of the article to what I could verify, which was that she was calling for the death penalty to be imposed promptly in cases of child rape (specifically, that it be imposed within six months).  --Pi zero (talk) 23:47, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * That was a technically small, but conceptually on the large side, adjustment. --Pi zero (talk) 23:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I'm puzzled by the discrepancy over the death penalty. I see it's the two British sources—the BBC and The Independent—that have "including the death penalty" for the changes introduced after the 2012 rape (and thank you by the way for finding earlier coverage here of the aftermath of that event); but Asia One explicitly states, "Under Indian law the maximum sentence for rape is life imprisonment." So I'm scratching my head a bit at the discrepancy. Yngvadottir (talk) 05:02, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
 * For this article, we don't have to say whether there is a death penalty, as we only have to pin down what is being called for rather than what about it differs from the status quo. Although the 2013 article wasn't used here as a source, now that we raise the point, I see in it that the accused were facing the death penalty.  --Pi zero (talk) 12:43, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


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Football: Arsenal signs Aubameyang from Dortmund

February 2, 2018 On Wednesday, English football club Arsenal FC announced signing Gabonese striker from German club Borussia Dortmund (BVB) on "a long-term contract" which runs until 2021. The deal is worth about 56 million, making Aubameyang the costliest player in the history of the club.

The 28-year-old striker joined Borussia in 2013 from French club, and since then, scored 141 goals in 213 matches for BVB. In German Bundesliga, he scored 98 goals, scoring one goal in 116 minutes on average. During his tenure at the, the Gabonese captain won the 2017 (German Cup).

Aubameyang scored 31 goals in Bundesliga last season. Aubameyang was named 2016 Bundesliga player of the year. A year earlier, in 2015, he won award. He has 56 international with Gabon and has netted 23 goals.

Via their official website, Arsenal announced Aubameyang is to wear jersey number 14, previously worn by until last month when he moved to Everton FC. The Gabonese, who has already scored 21 goals in 24 games this season, reunites with Armenian midfielder. They were teammates at Dortmund until 2016, when Mkhitaryan moved to Manchester United. Mkhitaryan's transfer to the London club came in exchange of Chilean forward moving from Arsenal to their rivals Manchester in a swap deal.

Dortmund had signed Belgian footballer from Chelsea on loan before Aubameyang's deal was agreed upon. With Aubameyang's arrival, French forward Olivier Giroud moved to Arsenal's cross-town rivals Chelsea. In summer, Arsenal had signed for a then-club record fee of around £46.5 million.