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 * Is it okay to publish your replies on WikiNews and elsewhere (such as my science blog or wiki)?
 * Yes.

 * The temperatures for the highest levels of oxygen are really low -133 C, so, is the idea that this oxygen would be retained when the brines warm up to more habitable temperatures during the day or seasonally? Or would the oxygen be lost as it warms up? Or - is the idea that it has to be some exotic biochemistry that works only at ultra low temperatures like Dirk Schulze-Makuch's life based on hydrogen peroxide and perchlorates internal to the cells as antifreeze?
 * The options are both: first, cool oxygen-rich environments do not need to be habitats. They could be reservoirs packed with a necessary nutrient that can be accessed from a deeper and warmer region. Second, the major reason for limiting life at low temperature is ice nucleation, which would not occur in the type of brines that we study.

 * How quickly would the oxygen get into the brines - did you investigate the timescale?
 * No, we did not yet study the dynamics. We first needed to show that the potential is there. We are now studying the timescales and processes.

 * Could the brines that Nilton Renno and his teams simulated forming on salt / ice interfaces within minutes in Mars simulation conditions get oxygenated in the process of formation? If not, how long would it take for them to get oxygenated to levels sufficient for aerobic microbes? For instance could the Phoenix leg droplets have taken up enough oxygen for aerobic respiration by microbes?
 * Just like the answer above. Dynamics is still to be explored. (But this is a really good question 😉).

 * I notice from your figure 4 that there is enough oxygen for sponges only at tilts of about 45 degrees or less. Do you have any thoughts about how sponges could survive periods of time in the distant past when the Mars axial tilt exceeds 45 degrees, for instance, might there be subsurface oxygen rich oases in caves that recolonize the surface? Also what is the exact figure for the tilt at which oxygen levels sufficient for sponges become possible? (It looks like about 45 degrees from the figure but the paper doesn't seem to give a figure for this).
 * 45 deg is approx. the correct degree. We were also tempted to speculate about this temporal driver but realized that we still know so little about the potential for life on Mars/principles of life that anything related to this question would be pure speculation, unfortunately.

 * And I'd also like to know about your experiment you want to send to Mars to help with the search for these oxygenated brines
 * We are now developing at “NASA/JPL-California Institute of Technology” a small tool, called TH2OR (Transmissive H2O Reconnaissance) that might one day fly with a yet-to-be-determined mission. It will use low frequency sounding techniques, capable of detecting groundwater at depths down to ideally a few km under the Martian surface, thanks to the high electric conductivity of only slightly salty water and Faraday’s law of induction. Most likely, such a small and affordable instrument could be placed stationary on the planet’s surface or be carried passively or actively on mobile surface assets; TH2OR might be also used in combination with existing orbiting assets to increase its sounding depth. Next to determining the depth of groundwater, we should also be able to estimate its salinity and indirectly its potential chemistry, which is critical information for astrobiology and ISRU (in situ resource utilization).

 * and about whether there are any future plans for using a more detailed model with time variation dirunally or seasonally.
 * Yes, we are now exploring the kinetics part and want to see what happens on shorter timescales.

 * Does your TH2OR use TDEM like the Mars 94 mission - and will it use natural ULF sources such as solar wind, diurnal variations in ionosphere heating and lightning?
 * The physical principle it uses is the same and this has been used for groundwater detection on the Earth for many decades; it’s Faraday’s law of induction in media that are electrically conducting (as slightly saline water is).
 * However, we will focus on creating our own signal as we do not know whether the EM fields needed for such measurements exist on Mars. However, we will also account for the possibility of already existing fields.

 * Does your paper's value of up to, 0.2 moles of oxygen per cubic meter, the same as Earth's sea water mean that there could potentially be life on Mars as active as our sea worms or even fish?
 * Mars is such a different place than the Earth and we still need to do so much more work before we can even start to speculate.

 * Some news stories coupled your research with the subglacial lakes announcement earlier this year. Could the oxygen get through ice into layers of brines such as the possible subglacial lakes at a depth of 1.5 km?
 * There are other ways to create oxygen. Radiolysis of water molecules into hydrogen and oxygen can liberate oxygen in the deep and that O2 could be dissolved in deep groundwater. The radiolytic power for this would come from radionuclides naturally contained in rocks, something we observe in diverse regions on Earth.

 * Could it get into a layer of fresh water just 30 cms below clear ice melted by the solid state greenhouse effect, as in Mohmann's model (which forms subsurface liquid water at surface temperatures as low as -56 °C).
 * See response above.

 * I know that the story is no longer "in the news" but it wasn't covered in great detail and I think there may well be a fair bit of interest in an expanded article about it. It does rather strkingly extend the potential habitability of Mars.
 * Our work really opens up new possibilities for the Martian habitability, and that’s why it’s so exciting!

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Dozens of people killed in Mogadishu, Somalia car bombings near Sahafi Hotel

November 12, 2018

On Friday at about 4 p.m. local time, four car bombs detonated near Sahafi Hotel in Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia. About four to five armed attackers reportedly attempted to enter the hotel through a hole in the wall. The attackers were shot by police and the hotel security guards. This has resulted in the death of at least 53 people and injury of at least 100 people, Agence France-Presse news agency quoted officials on Sunday morning.

A witness, Abdiaziz Ibrahim, who was a former spokesperson for the Internal Security Ministry, said the attackers were dressed in police uniform, according to CNN. The victim count continued to rise on Saturday. According to a police official, some of the bodies were burnt and impossible to identify.

al-Shabab, a militant group in Somalia, claimed the attack. According to Reuters, they said the hotel was a "government base" where "government officials" were always present.

The owner of the hotel also died in the attack. The hotel was located in the vicinity of Somalia's Criminal Investigations Department.


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TH2OR and TDEM
Short summary

He explained that his TH2OR is a small device that lets you generate ultra low frequency radio waves, far below the frequency of radar. These waves are ideal for detecting salty brines, even if only slightly salty, well below the surface of a planet (the salt makes the brines more conducting and so easier to detect using radar). They can penetrate to a depth of kilometers.

The waves would be at least kilometers in wavelength up to thousands of kiloemters. It's not practical to use a normal antenna for this. It could use natural sources such as changes in the ionisphere, solar wind, or lightning. But there is another ingenious method widely used on Earth for geological surveying, to set a current looping around in a loop - then suddenly switch it off. This causeas an eddy current to propogate down into the ground a bit like a smoke ring, getting wider as it gets deeper. This gives the momentary very long wavelength radio waves, only for a short time as transietns, but broaad in bandwidth. The Russians planned to fly to Mars in their ill fated Mars 94 mission. This is what they plan to use. They will use natural sources as well if they are present but don't know enough about Mars to rely on them being there.

Details
TH2OR would use Ultra low frequency radio waves to detect deep subsurface brines. It is a method widely used for surveying on Earth, using frequencies far lower than for ground penetrating radar, typically in the range from a fraction of a Hertz to kilohertz. These are hard to generate because the wavelengths are typically measured in kilometers, for instance at 30 Hz you need a wavelength of 10,000 km, see Radio wave. You can't just use an antenna kilometers in scale.

There are two main ways of doing this, using natural background radiation from various sources such as lightning (rare on Mars) diurnal changes in ionosphere heating, and solar wind.

The other method is "time‐domain electromagnetic" methods. A good paper about all this is this one:

The way this works is that a pure sine wave is transmitted and then a broad spectrum of frequencies is generated when the signal is switched off. This generates a secondary circular electrical current that diffuses into the ground at an angle of 47 degrees expanding like a smoke ring as it descends. Described in another paper as: ]

""The EM primary field diffuses downward as a plane wave because of the high air-surface impedittivity, which implies the electric field tolie in a horizontal plane. The eddy currents are horizontal and concentric below the transmitter loop and diffuse away through the mediumlike smoke rings.""

Nobody has sent a detector of this type to Mars yet, but the Russians planned to do so with their Mars 94 mission. That never happened because of the fall of the USSR. Details here

Grimm gives details about the Russian instrument as told by personal communication with E. Fainberg in 2000

Nilton Renno droplets
Summary: Nilton Renno and his team found that droplets of salty water can form in minutes when salt is thrown on top of ice in Mars surface conditions. This is something that could mean there are widespread tiny droplets of liquid that a microbe could live in on Mars.

I asked him if his research means these droplets could be oxygenated. He said they haven't studied the time it would take for the brines to get oxygenated yet, but it's a good question.

Details
This is the background here, from my astrobiology wiki again. This got a lot of media attention at the time. We don't need to go into this level of detail though I probably will in my expanded article, Droplets on its landing legs

"In 2008 through to 2009, droplets were observed on the landing legs of Phoenix. Unfortunately, it wasn't equipped to analyse them in that location. However, the leading theory is that these were droplets of salty water. They were observed to grow, darken and coalesce, and then disappear, presumably as a result of falling off the legs.

In December 2013, Nilton Renno and his team using the Michigan Mars Environmental Chamber were able to simulate the conditions at its landing site and the droplets. They formed salty brines within minutes when salt overlaid ice, with the salt, especially perchlorates, acting as an "antifreeze". The team concluded that suitable conditions for brine droplets may be widespread in the polar regions. The Phoenix droplets may have formed on mixtures of salt and ice that were thrown up onto its legs when it landed. . The Michegan Mars simulation chamber was developed to study the possibility of brines forming in Mars surface conditions"

Mohmann model
Summary: This doesn't get much media attention, so it was a bit of a technical question to ask him this. It is a way that fresh water can form beneath a thin layer of ice on Mars even if surface conditions are extremely cold, -56 C. Normally fresh water would boil instantly over most of Mars and be near boiling even at the depths of the Hellas Basin. But if covered with a thin layer of clear ice it is stable and in Antarctica then fresh water does form beneath clear ice because the heat is trapped by the solid state version of the greenhouse effect.

I asked him if oxygen could get into this water. He said that it might be possible through radioactivity in rocks breaking apart the hydrogen and oxygen in the ice, so leaving oxygen rich ice. He hasn't modeled this.

Details
It's a bit technical to ask that question, I have a special personal interest in this model and wanted it for my own article on the topic. For some resaon it hasn't had much media attention but it gives a way to have fresh water within a few tens of centimeters of the Martian surface in polar regions, by a process similar to one that occurs in Antarctica.

Vlada was saying that it is possible oxygen gets into this water via ionizing radiation from radioactive elements in the rocks breaking up hydrogen from oxygen in the water ice. But they haven't modeled this yet.

If you want to do a shorter version of the interview and leave this question and answer out, okay by me. I can do the full interview in my astrobiology wiki. Indeed I have already uploaded it there, but marked it as NOINDEX so as not to scoop Wikinews:

 * Oxygenated brines on Mars - email interview with Vlada Stamenkovic

This is how I summarize it in my astrobiology wiki:

"Möhlmann uses a solid state greenhouse effect in his model with translucent ice or snow-ice packs, rather than dry ice as a solid state greenhouse layer. JoekullsarlonBlueBlockOfIce.jpg, Iceland. On the Earth, Blue ice like this forms as a result of air bubbles squeezed out of glacier ice. This has the right optical and thermal properties to act as a solid state greenhouse, trapping a layer of liquid water that forms 0.1 to 1 meters below the surface. In Möhlmann's model, if ice with similar optical and thermal properties forms on Mars, it could form a layer of liquid water centimeters to decimeters thick, which would form a few cm below the surface.]]

In his model, first the ice forms a translucent layer - then as summer approaches, the solid state greenhouse effect raises the temperature of a layer below the surface to 0 °C, so melting it. This is a process familiar on the Earth for instance in Antarctica. On Earth, in similar conditions, the surface ice remains frozen, but a layer of liquid water forms from 0.1 to 1 meters below the surface. It forms preferentially in "blue ice"."


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Welcome
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Merkel, Macron hold ceremonial meeting before 100th anniversary of World War I end

November 13, 2018

On Saturday, the day before, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and French President held a ceremonial meeting at  in northern France. There, 100 years prior, an was signed, ending fighting between the Allies and Germany in World War I. This was the first time a German leader had visited the site since 1940.

The forest near Compiegne is also where France signed its surrender to Germany during the Second World War.

The two leaders commemorated the occasion with a plaque at the site to celebrate reconciliation between Germany and France. Merkel and Macon then signed a vistors' book in a railway carriage modeled after the original used in 1940. In contrast to German and French officials gathered in 1918 and 1940, the two leaders sat side by side.

Macron left for Paris later that day to host a dinner for several foreign leaders before commemorations on Sunday. The French president was to lead a ceremony on Sunday in Paris at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier.

The French presidential palace — the — called the Merkel–Macron meeting "highly symbolic".


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User:Gryllida/local

= How to report locally (and does it help)? =

What to do

 * 1) Install an news reader, such as Facebook or Twitter (follow a few relevant news sources there) or mPage, an RSS reader for Firefox.
 * 2) Bookmark Special:Watchlist and style, content guides.
 * 3) Every morning and every evening:
 * 4) *Read the headlines in your local area -- for example Texas US or NSW Australia -- then read and bookmark anything relevant from today. Use bookmark tags such as 'food' or 'health' or 'traffic' etc.
 * 5) *If two sources are found, or if the story is sufficiently interesting and relevant to investigate, report about it. This needs about 40 minutes. See WN:PILLARS and WN:WRITE (bookmark these, too).
 * 6) *If you want more information than available in mainstream media, search footage on Flickr or Twitter or Youtube etc:
 * 7) **they may have more information available visually, and
 * 8) **query the author for relicensing their image.
 * 9) *...and contact relevant parties such as universities or government bodies. Since it's local, if you have a good phone plan which has unlimited national calls, give them a phone call.
 * 10) *Aim to report 1 story every week.
 * 11) Check back for updates -- in the news or on the talk page of the draft -- regularly, 2-3 times a day. Act on it immediately.
 * 12) If the story is published, share it with your friends. Ask the how did they like it. Ask them to share.
 * 13) After a while, ask a friend to start reporting. You can have meetings every week to do it together.

How to check whether it helps

 * Whether the friends share the stories.
 * Whether the friends want to start reporting.
 * What tactics works best - share yours.

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User:Gryllida/welcome a bit

To encourage timely completion of new submissions, you can help by 'welcoming' each new article 'a bit'. A welcome is:

To offer your help with the code, click 'source code' below.

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Sign up here.

Note: There also are alternative signup options for advanced users; see /Signup.

What is in it for me?
Want to be a welcome-a-bit (WaB) superhero?

Recent changes
Version 4, April 4 2020: Version 3, April 28 2019: Version 2, April 1, 2019:
 * added 'review' category notifications (type '/r')
 * fixed a bug with list of categories in wiki delivery
 * fixed a bug with empty delivery when all news is already delivered
 * added 'bot' flag for the bot
 * added gui for signup
 * added gui for removal of personal talk page messages
 * added author and categories information to each article in the notifications
 * avoid duplicate notifications if a page was added to two categories of interest;
 * added on-wiki notifications;
 * added workaround for DPL bug (T218016) which does not exclude Published category;
 * grouped new messages together not by category
 * corrected a loop to ensure the unsorted list of pages is fully processed even when one of the pages in the middle is too old

People and whom to ask for help
This tool is being maintained by Gryllida who does the coding and documentation.

Thanks also to these people who have greatly helped with their ideas and feedback:

 * Qwerty number1 (testing on-wiki)
 * SVTCobra (testing on-wiki)
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If the are any issues or suggestions, just ask at the talk page: Click here to leave a message.

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After signing up, you will receive notifications at your email or talk page each time a new article is created in the topic of your choice. You will receive instructions how to welcome the article.

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More informations: /More

See also and related links
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Information for helpers: User:Gryllida/welcome a bit/for helpers

Source code: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/weabit/

Mastodon (the free federated Twitter alternative): @gry@masthead.social

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Talk:Merkel, Macron hold ceremonial meeting before 100th anniversary of World War I end

Review of revision 4445607 [Passed]

 * What the hell is the headline trying to say? "and" was not needed and a comma would have suffice, but "Macron", "Merkel", "Armistice Day"? How do you think it works for international audience, Pi? 103.254.128.86 (talk) 06:23, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * What would you suggest? (If it's a massive enough improvement, and suggested soon enough, it's still possible.) --Pi zero (talk) 12:36, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * How about "Merkel, Macron hold ceremonial meeting before 100th anniversary of World War I end"? --Pi zero (talk) 12:43, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Sought feedback from someone off-line about this, since time is short. They felt it was a significant improvement, and re the imperfect conveyance of who those people are they remarked (and it is a valid point, if not taken too far), read the article.  So I'm going for it. --Pi zero (talk) 15:03, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Done; anyone willing to sight the rename? --Pi zero (talk) 15:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


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User:Gryllida/NPOV/Examples

Bias is presentation of content that is not factual. Bias can mislead the reader. It needs to be avoided in news reports. See WN:NPOV.

There are a few types of bias.

Your opinion

 * Bias by including your opinion. (Do not include it. If it is something important, include the relevant facts.) Example:

Someone else's opinion, no attribution

 * Bias by including other's opinions in Wikinews's voice. (Include them, with attribution, instead.) Example (this also plagiarises, but this is another issue)

Balance bias

 * Balance bias - presenting views only from one party or group of parties who work closely together. (You should present views from another party as well, whenever possible.) Example:

Bias by being vague

 * Bias by being vague or unspecific, which may cause confusion or brainwashing. Example:

 * A special kind of bias by being vague is not specifying where the information came from, making its source seem -- if the reader is OK with assuming that it is true (which the brain is inclined to do) instead of never assuming (which is what journalism and critical thinking requires) -- seemingly reputable:

 * Another kind: attribute the information to seemingly everyone, only later in the next paragraph saying it was 'N% of responses to that survey"

Bias by omission

 * Bias by omission. Important information is not included, or is included too late where the readers don't read.

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Israel and Palestinian militants agree to ceasefire after worst Gaza violence since 2014

November 14, 2018

On Tuesday, Hamas and the Islamic Jihad Movement in Palestine, among other Palestinian militant groups in the Gaza Strip, announced a ceasefire agreement with Israel. The agreement was brokered by Egypt and the United Nations.

A renewal of violence between Israel and militants in Gaza occurred on Monday and Tuesday. According to Hamas, hostilities resumed as a consequence of an Israeli raid within Gaza. The raid operation occurred on Sunday, killing seven Palestinian militants and an Israeli officer.

About 400 rockets were fired from Gaza. Israel's air defensive system intercepted some of these, some missed their targets, but some still reached cities. Israel, meanwhile, launched over 100 aerial strikes on militant targets, and naval strikes against Hamas ships.

The latest confrontation marks the worst fighting between the two sides since 2014. The reported seven Palestinians were killed, and Israel announced a Palestinian from  was killed in a rocket strike on a residential building in. Others also suffered wounds, especially shrapnel wounds.

Prior to the recent violence, Israel and Hamas were making progress on a long-term diplomatic solution involving financial aid for Gaza. Israel's assistance was to come with the condition that Hamas crack down on protests along the Israeli-Gazan border, as well as restrict flying incendiary kites into Israel.


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Wikinews:Water cooler/technical/archives/2018/October

The 'random article' link in the sidebar seems a bit useless for a news site...
...as unfortunately the current tools do not allow to limit it to "random page among 'last couple weeks' submissions". Is this correct?

Interestingly, people read and use the sidebar, as Excoriation helpfully pointed out.

Perhaps the 'random article' link needs to be removed from MediaWiki:Sidebar as this might cause confusion.

Thoughts? --Gryllida chat / how do YOU get started? 01:51, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

 * Our archives are a major asset of the project. (The next link after that in the navigation side-bar is an archive splash page that I've been working on upgrading for some time; it's been taking a back seat to other dialog-related upgrades.) I don't see a problem with it.  Most people probably won't even notice that link, those that do and take the name of the link literally won't be surprised by what it does, and those that are surprised will only be so for an instant.  Providing most-recent articles is a function of the main page, which is at the top of the navigation side-bar. --Pi zero (talk) 12:03, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Get a notification when any article status changes
I would like to receive a notification --through email or Echo, for example-- each time an article status changes - for any new article - for example this can be addition to develop or review or tasks.

I can watch a category, but this does not generate email notifications.

The gadgets --the action done when people click 'submit for review' in the develop tag, the ezPR gadget-- could do a ping in edit summary on opt-in basis. If it is via edit summary, a list of opted-in participants may need to be stored at a wiki page.

I am not sure what would be the best approach.

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 * You can subscribe to your watchlist thru RSS. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:27, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't know how (think via API, but I had difficulty finding documentation about where to put the watchlist token). --Gryllida (chat) 05:30, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Go to Special:Watchlist
 * View source (e.g. Ctrl+U if you are using Firefox)
 * Search for "atom" (e.g. Ctrl+F)
 * Find a string like: "w/api.php?action=feedwatchlist&allrev=1&wlowner=Gryllida&wltoken=[gibberish]&feedformat=atomz"
 * Add the feed "https://en.wikinews.org/w/api.php?action=feedwatchlist&allrev=1&wlowner=Gryllida&wltoken=[gibberish]&feedformat=atom" to your RSS reader.
 * Let me know if you need more help. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:37, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * This looks great. Thank you. Gryllida (chat) 05:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 * This looks great. Thank you. Gryllida (chat) 05:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Edittools and MediaWiki:Edittools.js still need fixing
I raised an issue early this year about MediaWiki:Edittools and MediaWiki:Edittools.js possibly not working properly. There weren't enough replies here, so five months ago I decided to ask for help or suggestions at MediaWiki.org's Support Desk. I figured that the suggestions there are helpful, but I'm unsure. I wanted to file a Phabricator task about this, but I decide to raise this once more. --George Ho (talk) 08:48, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for following this up George Ho.
 * Why don't they fix it? Edit tools is a part of MediaWiki.
 * Does this bug not occur at Russian Wikinews or English Wikipedia?
 * If it does not parse our MediaWiki:Edittools then it is a bug in MW's code?
 * I do not follow what code needs fixing.
 * If you don't understand either then we can ask at the topic that you linked. --Gryllida (chat) 09:35, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * I still don't understand codes much, even when using the "F12" key, i.e. developer tools. I tried finding flaws in Elements tab via Google Chrome, but I don't know which code needs fixing. I also couldn't detect "exceptions". --George Ho (talk) 09:51, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * OK thanks George Ho;
 * and maybe others; do you have suggestions different from 'this is a bug in MediaWiki which needs to be reported'? --Gryllida (chat) 10:41, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

"Opinions" tab not appearing while using debug=true in a browser's address bar
When I was using " " (e.g. this one) and developer tools, I noticed that "Opinions" tab is missing. On the other hand, without using " ", the "Opinions" tab appears. Also, when I used the developers tools (F12 key) via Google Chrome, I found one error message (or an "exception"?). --George Ho (talk) 10:04, 28 October 2018 (UTC)


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User:Pi zero/essays/Meta-assistance

In theory, the primitive dialog tools should empower the wiki community at large to grow semi-automated assistants to aid on-wiki expert tasks, gathering contributors' expertise in much the way that wikis gather contributors' knowledge of primary content. In practice, design and implementation of such semi-automated assistants is itself an on-wiki expert task, therefore a natural target for a semi-automated assistant. Designing a meta-assistant is a daunting challenge, so I'm writing this essay to try to sort out how to do it.

Kinds of knowledge
The knowledge to be captured by an assistant divides along two dimensions.
 * Creation versus modification. It's easier for a meta-assistant to help with creating an assistant than to help with modifying one.  This is because, during creation of an assistant, the meta-assistant would naturally ask the user all about how the assistant should work, and, moreover, the user is reasonably expected to be able to supply those answers.  With modification, though, we're dealing with a humanly-created artifact, with no required constraints to make it tractable for a non-sapient meta-assistant to figure it out, no particular expectation that the meta-assistant would grill the user about how it works, and no expectation that the user would know how it works if asked.  So these two cases, creation and modification, are quite different.
 * High-level versus low-level. There's lots of good advice that can be given about how an assistant should behave; things like allow the user to do unanticipated things; preserve the user's reasons for deviating from expectations so later users don't just keep getting pushed to do things the expected way; show the consequences of an edit before asking for a commit to it; check after an action to make sure it worked right and be prepared to deal with the situation if it didn't.  That's high-level.  Then there's low-level stuff, that may be difficult and tedious for the human user — though it's important when aiding it to exercise caution and show clearly what is being done under-the-hood, to preserve the learning-by-osmosis process.  For creation, low-level help may be especially straightforward, whereas for modification low-level help may be especially difficult since it deals with low-level code that, having been developed previously by humans, might employ any technique the human mind could devise (to say nothing of techniques the human mind could blunder into).

Workflow
The very fact that assistants have behavior patterns is what makes them so much more challenging than passive hypertext documents. Most of the following items apply both to assistants and to the meta-assistant — the meta-assistant must simultaneously possess and nurture these properties (with the balance between the two differing by item). The last item on the list, stability, is in practice very meta.

Graceful degradation
Fancy stuff is more likely to break. Even though the dialog tools are designed to be as rugged as possible, there will be situations where they stop working. There's even a dialog template specifically to provide for that, dialog/ifsupported.

So it's highly desirable that each assistant (including the meta-assistant) should provide directions, that can be usefully perused as documentation pages when dialog isn't working, on how to do by hand what the assistant is meant to do semi-automatically. For this to work smoothly, the directions ought to arise naturally from the way the assistant is set up, so that when the assistant changes, the directions do too, preventing them from getting out-of-sync. A certain amount of manual synchronization is already required between wiki markup and its corresponding documentation page; here we want to avoid further multiplying the need for synchronization.

Intermediate stages
When an assistant has been partly built, but parts of it are incomplete, it should be possible to use part of it and then be told what else to do manually. This seems related to availability of instructions for graceful degradation, with the degradation caused here by incompletion.

Preview
When editing the primary information content of a wiki page, it's extremely desirable to be able to preview what the typeset page will look like, at various intermediate points in the editing process as well as just before committing the edit. This preview ability is one way of reconciling the need to see the underlying markup (essential to the learn-by-osmosis process that enables the long-term viability of wikis) with the need to know what the typeset page will look like (without which even simple edits would be extremely error-prone), Some blog-comment interfaces (though not the wiki platform) provide an instantaneously-updated preview.

When editing a wiki page that interacts with other wiki pages, one may want to preview what happens to the interaction. The existing wiki platform already goes to some trouble to support an extended preview function for templates, showing what some other page would look like if the current draft edit were committed; though that template-preview function is not always sufficient, hence the assistant. For interactive assistants, even more extensive preview facilities would likely be wanted. One might wish to see how a draft edit would affect a walkthrough of the assistant; or, even more fraught, one might wish to see how a draft set of edits would affect a walkthrough, raising the spectre of version-control for drafts of a whole assistant.

Walkthrough
It's desirable to be able to simulate the functioning of an assistant, as if it were doing things but without actually doing them; in order to understand how it works, how one might want to modify it, and how one would go about doing such a thing by hand.

Version control
Some changes to an assistant can be understood as tweaks within the overall structure; but beyond a certain point (depending on something more complex than mere size), they become changes to the assistant as a whole, so that the assistant after the change is a different assistant than the assistant before the change. One may actually want the entire assistant to continue to function as before for anyone who was using it at the time of replacement, and perhaps also to have the old version available for deliberate use later on. Reversion of the whole assistant to an earlier state is possible; and one may wish to commit a multi-part change all at once.

Stability
The assistance facility design as a whole needs to assure availability of a working version of the meta-assistant so it can be applied to resolving a difficulty with a defective version of the meta-assistant. The situation is inherently volatile because the means for fixing problems is itself editable; in contrast to primary wiki content, which is edited by means of the basic platform interface, independent of the content of the page and generally stable (barring design changes, alas).

This seems related to the above-mentioned version control problem; and is, more esoterically, reminiscent of the notional of a computational.

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Rename
moveprotected Please rename to change "worse" to "worst". Heavy Water (talk) 22:55, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

 * @Heavy Water: if I recall correctly, moving pages after publication/archiving does funny stuff with the dynamic page lists since they use the date of categorization rather than any date on the page. Though, it probably won't show up on the main page since Main headlines explicitly excludes archived things. I'll need to check first to make sure it won't cause any funny behavior. —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 20:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think so. E.g. 130 countries at OECD summit agree to back global corporate tax rate still displays correctly. Messing with DISPLAYTITLE is known to, though. Heavy Water (talk) 20:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ I won't place a correction notice, unless it seems necessary. It's a fairly minor typo. Good catch, —chaetodipus (talk · contribs) 00:07, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But you forgot to sight it. Heavy Water (talk) 02:24, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


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Re: 20160206
Hello,

Did you know that Wikinews only publishes stories about events that are 2-3 days old at maximum?

Please head to WN:PILLARS and then to WN:WRITE to add another story.

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User talk:MD Nazrul Islam Joy

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User talk:FaustoWharton

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User talk:Caizhongbin

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User talk:EmelyGilbertson

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User talk:Elvylifestyle

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User talk:MiltonAbercrombi

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User talk:SaulNoonan4339

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User talk:StephanyTober

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User talk:MadeleineBeamon

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User talk:FakeRealAlbert

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User talk:Imtiaz ahmed rifat

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User talk:Fruitarian2

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User talk:Adrianoaguiarb

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User talk:Tasinrahmanovi

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Template:ASST/find/doc

This subtemplate of ASST determines which field of a page name has prefix. Meant to be used at option by other templates, not only by ASST and its subtemplates.

Usage
Specify the page name as unnamed parameter. If the parameter isn't a valid page name, returns blank. If no field of the page name starts with, returns. Otherwise, returns the index of the first field that starts with, starting with   for the first field.

This subtemplate is designed so it can be substituted (via ) as well as transcluded.

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User talk:Catty 2021

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User talk:R-sellimor

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Template:ASST/parse/doc

This subtemplate of ASST completes the parse after the page name has been identified and its assistant field located.

Usage
Provide as first unnamed parameter the page name, and as second unnamed parameter the result of applying ASST/find to the page name.

This subtemplate is designed so it can be substituted (via ) as well as transcluded.

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User talk:Hardikgosalia

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User talk:BernadineNewberr

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User talk:Udeioba

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User talk:BlueShirtz

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User talk:FootKalos1597

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User talk:ScotDanis36882

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User talk:Vahidansari1911wiki

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User talk:Ricky39

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User talk:NatishaClarkson

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User talk:Rockyrico1987

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User talk:Santolerovat02

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User talk:Elab91

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User talk:ClaireVann20

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User talk:Matikara

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User talk:EveretteFed

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User talk:SantiagoMcIntosh

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User talk:Blingcling

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User talk:Panda McRae

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User talk:JudeAlcantar1

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User talk:Resen01

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Contributing
Hi. Please take a look at Pillars of writing, which is a compact overview of what we do here. --Pi zero (talk) 14:14, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:A858687

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User talk:Unreal79

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User talk:SherrylShropshir

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User talk:ROp192

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User:Ayoddy

hi everyone my name is feyisola and am creating this page specially for people who feel they aren't special 😊😊😊

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User talk:Mrbarsa

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User talk:Fundaman

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User talk:PolitiCalder

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User talk:Breathin honey

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User talk:ElmaGilyard27

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User talk:Riad Shahriar 1

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User talk:CoolSkittle

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User talk:C7042

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User talk:AuroraCooley974

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User talk:Bigboyza118

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User talk:BirgitLawless61

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User talk:Fiona Fortuna 1081

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User talk:ManieBabbidge8

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User talk:LizetteFitzwater

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User talk:SherriC76314653

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User talk:AlejandrinaPaw

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User talk:AxolotlsAreCool

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User talk:Durgaprasanna

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User talk:SuzetteZnm

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User talk:Idealistic Lily

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User talk:JonsterMonster

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User talk:Zchhouun3721

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User talk:Duckquacker1000

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User talk:Avin mish

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User talk:Caokddjs

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User talk:Asmdeen

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User talk:WhitneyNvp

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User talk:Василий Добрый

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User talk:Andritolion

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User talk:Intruderzz

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User talk:WhisperToMe

Re: Macau Grand Prix
Hello WhisperToMe,

At the water cooler. I've suggested to just get started writing the story at your convenience, using WN:PILLARS and WN:WRITE. Not sure if you saw this..?

Perhaps a draft could be started with a list of dates and results of the event so far? How could I possibly help you? --Gryllida (talk) 10:38, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

 * A user came by on the Wikinews IRC channel, saying they were in Macau and could be contacted by leaving a message at zh:User talk:JyunWaan. --Pi zero (talk) 15:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * done Gryllida (talk) 21:57, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

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User talk:Lizbeth Thomas

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User talk:CaptainTologist

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User talk:Lurking shadow

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Wikinews:Water cooler/assistance/archives/2018/September

Talk:Fire reaches the National Museum of Rio de Janeiro
This report based mainly on a translation of a single source needs an update. How many victims were there for example. Cheers, --Gryllida (chat) 04:50, 7 September 2018 (UTC)


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User talk:Brandalanna

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User talk:Maxic

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User talk:JEHANEMF

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User talk:TameraBarajas

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User talk:Sanjubhai2018

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User talk:Vounivouna45

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User talk:Aidan Chao

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User talk:MonaHartfield8

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User talk:Kazi Saabique Ahmed

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User talk:Fausto0923

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User talk:Doro098

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User talk:RosemaryVillasen

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User talk:DPDWilly745608

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User talk:Nyatanl

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User talk:JacquelineBrande

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User talk:ShirleyFrankland

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Thread:Comments:Linkin Park's lead singer Chester Bennington dies at 41/RIP (2)

RIP wot a an amazin artist who is sadly missed x


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User talk:LaureneFethersto

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User talk:JaneParedes1928

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User talk:MarylynVanwinkle

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User talk:Dysonkalman

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User talk:Hi3100

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User talk:AndreaIverson8

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User talk:Kamioeino

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User talk:VXDArlette

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User talk:EmSixTeen

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User talk:Kick770

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User talk:Harley JEG

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User talk:MeganLuciano

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User talk:JadeCallister

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User talk:ArtisanLRO

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User talk:ShelbyVargas498

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User talk:Fareez M

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User talk:BernadetteSmallw

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User talk:LorrieHannah

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User talk:CoNtEuGoLiNo

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User talk:小小萧

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User talk:Fluxdrip

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