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User talk:Ortolan88

hello, I am a student from the british schools in Uruguay, I am sitting for the IB exam of chemistry in may. I ahve to perform an experiment related to alcohol. My idea was to get different alcoholic beverages and calculate its percentage. I thought that I could do this by a fractional distillation, so there I cpuld identity the quantity of alcohol in that beverage. but is there a better way of calcultating the %??? pleasde I thank you if you answer me thank you !!!!!!! Agustina please contact me: agustina1987@hotmail.com

Please see Ortolan88's Archive1 for everything from mav's cheery greeting in March '02 to yesterday's windstorm that made me decide it was time for filing away. Ortolan88 03:11 Jan 22, 2003 (UTC)

If you put something here that requires an answer, I will answer on your user talk page. That way, if anyone wants to eavesdrop on our conversation, they will have to go to considerable trouble.

If you put something tiresome here, I will delete it, quite possibly without answering except for a sarcastic or despairing summary line. That way, if anyone wants to see something tiresome, they will have to go to considerable trouble.

Fire away!

Hello Ortolan,

May I recommend the hydrochloric acid page? You were one of the first contributors to it. It is now up for Peer Review request.

Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim van Dorst 22:36, 2005 Feb 18 (UTC)

Good day to you, Tom!

Please accept my apologies. It does appear that there was considerable confusion about the origin of the material. Please do let me know your opinion of my extensive - and IMO superior, rewrite. However, with respect for citations - with which were absent - please do cite them. I'm sure that musicologists and others would be interested. Just so you'll know, I have been a long-time resident of that area, and have done some study of Handy. His music figures importantly in my musical development. As for the quality of the article - without regard for that now-resolved issue previously in question - I thought it was atrocious and most definitely did not even adequately render the subject. Again, perhaps a new category describing how his music was different from the standard of the time, and of today, would be an excellent in-depth. Further, to say he was a trained musician demeans his tremendous and extraordinary contributions. A monkey or dog can be trained, but only a human being can be educated - and Handy was EDUCATED. That is one very important thing that set him apart from others. Also, I most definitely DISAGREE with the rap references on "Long Gone". I do have that recording, it is nothing like rap in any sense, save for a few spoken words. If, however, spoken word categorizes and suffices for rap, I submit Johnny Cash's "Ride This Train" was the FIRST rap... and not Debbie Harry's or anyone elses. Regards, K. L. Bardon 15:53, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

You're a funny guy. :-) Koyaanis Qatsi

Thanks! God Bless you!! :)

Sincerely yours, AntonioMartin

O, the mail that I sent to wikien-l was received, but the two I sent to wikipedia-l both bounced back saying there is no such address. -- Zoe

I dig your work. Some generally great additions you make. :-) Koyaanis Qatsi

I do want a laugh. The only time I can remember not wanting one was when I got the hiccups from watching There's Something About Mary. Koyaanis Qatsi

I think this goes without saying, but for what it is worth I am glad you were "sucked in" to the NI article, however briefly. Slrubenstein

Just like those French, children reading poems by preverts! 168... P.S. I hope this doesn't count as vandalism. I saw no Talk:Ortolan88 and knew I could just call you a hypocrite if you were to reject my one liner. Didn't get your blue-paint joke at Talk:Editor, but would like to. -- Regarding Manual of Style

 * not the place to explain commas, particularly if not quite correctly)

What do you mean by that? Commas are not optional? Some (including me) might wonder In physics, bahabah or In physics bahabah -- Taku 18:29 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

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Hey Yo! Ortolan88!

 * 1) can you break talk:Manual of Style into smaller pages so that we "bad browser citizens" can play?
 * 2) Your last comment brought to mind a problem with the wekipedia style manual. If real names, rather than known names, are used, both Jesus (actually Yeshua or something like that) and Buddha have to be secondary in the encyclopedia. This doesn't seem strange to you?

Arthur 23:25 Jan 25, 2003 (UTC)

- Dear Orto: Hey whats up? Hey I was just wondering if you could put world boxing champion next to the names of those boxers who have been world champions when yo are ID'ing people on the biographical listings. It's just that, well, I mean, boxers who have been world champions are in a way, lto boxing, like world leaders are to politicians. Not every boxer gets to be a world champion, and I have had to write about some boxers who were non champs too. (Some non champs have had quite a significant contribution to society, such as Chuck Wepner.

Anyways, I just think that for example, no one would write Politic next to Bill Clinton on the biographical listing, and it would be nice to see some protocol in noting which of the boxers on the list have been world champions too.

Thanks and God bless! Oh and keep up the good and hard work!!

Sincerely yours, AntonioMartin

The governor called and commuted your sentence. Koyaanis Qatsi

Dear Orto: Hi! Thanks for answering..;) you dont know how much Id give to shake hands with Ingemar Johannsen, although knowing me Id also be extremely nervous and asking for an autoraph..LOL I will try also to put worlc boxing champ next to the name of such fighters on the bio list.

Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, AntonioMartin

Tom, I just love the way you rush in after people have cleaned up nonsense and fill the void with an actual article. I'm thinking of Liberace at the moment, but it seems to be one of your calling cards. -- Stephen Gilbert 19:58 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC)

I shall never be able to see Rappin' Rosalind Russell in quite the same way again.  -- "Rap Master " Someone else 00:14 Feb 10, 2003 (UTC)

 * On your recommendation, I'm going to look for that Wonderful Town recording. Of course, I'll have to take the "Ethel Merman Disco Album" out of my CD player to listen to it! -- Someone else 01:48 Feb 10, 2003 (UTC)

As someone who has previously contributed to music-related articles, consider this a cordial, engraved invitation to participate in the discussion at List of songwriters/temp. I think this page can actually be useful instead of a random list of songwriters, but more input is needed. Tokerboy 03:16 Feb 12, 2003 (UTC)

Your courage, insight, and reason are understated. -Stevert

I think you're cooler than a bowl of ice cream. And, uh, that's cool. Koyaanis Qatsi

I just looked at the formatting you did on Krazy Kat, & comparing how I left it versuses how it is now, I can't figure out just what you changed. (This is not a criticism -- I simply can't see the difference, except for your italicizing The Dingbat Family -- llywrch 18:29 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks for helping find the right words on the Lingua Franca page. I just reordered it a little. brettz9.

Re browser problems: this is getting curiouser and curiouser, as I would seem to have the same setup as you (Mac OS X, Omniweb, flat screen) and am not running into this problem with the white/tan. Hephaestos
 * Aha, a Radius. Does it have associated driver software?  (It's been years since I've dealt with a Radius.)  If so, it might be worth it to reinstall that.  I agree with your brother that flat screens aren't quite so good with color, but doubt that's the specific problem here; most of my experience with Radius displays (dated, as I mentioned) has been that they're very good quality, but temperamental. Hephaestos

I was working on the Frozen Dead Guy Days article. :) -- Zoe

What problem do you have with the statement that the concept scalar is used in mathematics and consequently also in physics? Before I added that, the article said the word is used in both mathematics and physics, thereby making it look as if this might be a case in which the same word is used for two different unrelated concepts. But they are not unrelated; the use in physics is more concrete, but it is not a completely different concept; it follows naturally from the concept of scalar in mathematics. Michael Hardy 22:45 Mar 10, 2003 (UTC)

 * To interject another opinion, do either of you know which has historical prescedence? Especially if the less technical, less mathematical version is older, it may be odd to introduce it primarily as a derivation of the more technical, more mathematical version. --Ryguasu 02:37 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC)

Ortolan,

I finally found your comments on User:Ryguasu/Linguistics. I'm curious about a few things:

 * 1) Is your book published, and can one obtain it in the US?
 * 2) It would seem you would sympathize with Steven Pinker's discussion of "language mavens". Is this perhaps accurate?
 * 3) How often do people actually "mix up singular subjects with plural verbs?" This seems like the kind of mistake that people just won't tend to make, at least as native speakers of something more or less akin to Standard English.
 * 4) Do you have a coherent argument for why we ought to take opposite stands on prescription for written and spoken language? Why not have one standard for all of language?

--Ryguasu 02:37 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC) --- Wow, has it been that long? Have a nice Wikipedia vacation. :) I hope you return soon nicely rested. --mav

Have a nice break, Tom, and come back soon. -- Zoe

We will miss you, Tom. Enjoy, and don't forget to come back! Tannin

Wow! We'll really miss you here, Tom. Hope you are back a lot sooner than you think! Danny

Hope to see you back soon Orto - enjoy the break. --Camembert

And back you are! Great to see you around again :) --Camembert

Likewise, good to see ya. - Hephaestos|§ 02:52, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Yay! Nice to see you back Ortolan! --mav 06:39, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

1911
If you have a real hard copy (a book I think they were called) of the 1911 Britannica could you check Leucite. Our version of the article has great lines like: "the leucite is partly I re5h, partly altered to analcite". Not that even the correctly scanned parts are easy to read. Rmhermen 20:12, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick look at this. This has bugged my since I first saw it. Even properly reproduced, I fear it is mainly useless. Rmhermen 04:28, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the edit to Illinois Jacquet, you did a great job, as usual, summarizing his style. --SeanO 03:38, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)

Ooh. Nice job on Slim Gaillard too... You can copyedit my crap anytime! Hey, go look at Nellie Lutcher if you're so inclined. --SeanO 10:44, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)

beta Systemic Bias section
Hi, if you wish to help contribute to a beta version of a Wikipedia page section designed to counter-act Wikipedia's systematic bias, please sign the bottom of this section on the Village pump - Village_pump. If not, no worries.--Xed 03:36, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I need your help
I have been working on expanding the entry for Pirate Radio by adding a lot of sub pages for additional info so that the original remains the master index, so to speak. However, I went to discussion and then I went from discussion back to the article and up popped one of the intermediate versions which had been created while I was working on completing the full changeover (that sounds as clear as mud - I hope you can follow what I mean.)

Anyway, I had to click back to find the latest version because without that all of the new pages are mere orphans. So, whatever it is that needs to be done to marry the latest discussion page with the latest article page is what I am requesting help with, because I don't know how the problem came about or how to fix it. (The latest article pages essentially has a list of links with contents to other geographical areas, but there is no text for those geographical areas on the main page - that is now on the new sub-pages.) MPLX/MH 21:06, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Where the problem arises is when you type in Pirate Radio in search you get taken to a redirect page named "Pirate radio" which is correct. But if you type Pirate radio in search you end up with one of my old transition pages that was half-way through the expansion and incorrect. I don't know how this works because it means that there are two different pages called Pirate radio = but only the redirect from Pirate Radio is correct. "Pirate radio" accessed via search is incorrect and it is the transition page. It is very confusing, Can you help get rid of the transition page so that search and redirect end up at the same place? Thanks MPLX/MH 23:38, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Boston meetup
Hi Ortolan, will you be in town the weekend of the 20th? you can sign up or suggest times/places at Meetup/Boston. +sj + 21:14, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Adminship
I've nominated you. Please accept! uc 22:21, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Snowshoe
Could I ask you to fix two scannos in that article. User:Cimon avaro asked for clarification on the talk page over a year ago but no one ever responded (or perhaps no one had a hard copy of the 1911). Rmhermen 17:02, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
 * "lumberjacks is about .~1/2 ft. long"
 * "hurdle-race over hurdles ~ ft. 6 in. high"

Rock Around the Clock vs. RATC
Hi! Thanks for the edit on the Rock Around the Clock article. Just FYI the abbreviation "RATC" is relatively new and is starting to be used to abbreviate the song in articles and discussion. I use it on my Rockabilly Hall of Fame Web site (that's my page that's linked at the bottom of the article), and Peter Ford uses it in his article on the song which was published in Goldmine and Now Dig This. Similarly, "See You Later Alligator" is starting to be referred to on subsequent references as SYLA. It's not widespread yet, I agree. Cheers! Alex 23skidoo 15:46, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

About Black Folks and Wikipedia and Blackface
Hey, Ortolan *waving*. Sorry to be so late responding, but I'm a techno-idiot and just figured out how to do this. I like, pretty much, the most recent changes to African American. (I'm even warming to the divisions.) I took a look at your piece on blackface and made some changes. However, I removed the stuff about white artists covering black artists, because it's simply not blackface. Yeah, it's white folks stealing black music and/or mimicking performance styles, but it's not the same -- and, I think, somewhat diminishes the value of the black innovators being ripped off. Instead, I stuck in a quote which, perhaps, says more succinctly what you may have had in mind. I think you did a respectable job with the subject, and I'm glad you tackled it.

As far as getting more black folks to contribute to Wikipedia, I don't know anyone. Most of my friends and associates are activisits who, frankly, have better, more real-world things to do -- battles to fight, wrongs to right -- that kinda stuff. I did once make mention of Wikipedia on BlackPlanet a long while back, but that place has turned into such a cesspool, I think another mention would simply attract vandalism. What can ya do? Peace. deeceevoice 17:48, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Went back and reread, then restored your cover stuff. Thought it important (I hate Elvis!) and noticed the language about "admiration." Cool. :-) deeceevoice 22:33, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I've gone back and even more substantially reworked, rewritten and expanded blackface to include its racist iconography and impact on American culture. I had to -- particularly after noting the igorance/naivete of some of the comments in the discussion thread. Besides, IMO, it's too important in the shaping of the American psyche (how I wanted to use that word, but I figured some ignorant asshole would flag it as violating NPOV) shouldn't be treated as merely as an entertainment phenomenon. Let me know what you think. Peace. deeceevoice 15:47, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Congratulations, Tom!
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 22:25, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dubreq Stylophone
Thanks for the cleanup -- and for sending me to the manual of style regarding trademark notation. Did you read the external links for this peculiar instrument? --jpgordon{gab} 01:39, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Meetup this wknd
Dear TP, please opine on where to eat tomorrow. And if you would post some thoughts re: the handout you are thinking of bringing, I will offer my two bits... +sj +

Stylophone
The Samples are very short just a few cycles so you need a looping Wav-player (preferably a wave editor) to play those. --Deelkar 17:36, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * I read that you had some problems playing the files on the Mac. QuickTime can play WAV files. Set it to loop using the first item in the Movie menu. — David Remahl 14:24, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

re: Polar bears
Hi Ortolan, of course I realied you were talking about the northern islands, I merely wanted to point out that polar bears aren't as typical of Norway as, for example, reindeer, because they don't live anywhere near the mainland...sorry, that was maybe a bit poorly phrased, didn't want to sound like Mr. knowitall :p

So...what does one have to do to become a member of Isbjørnklubbe ? :) -- Ferkelparade π 23:18, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to... using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.
 * 1) ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
 * 2) ...all articles...

 * Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff.  So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the   template (or    for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace   with   . If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 18:06, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Style guide
Your comments about the style guide are very well put. One comment especially so. Thank you. Maurreen 06:11, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the help on the Carmen Miranda page. Cheryl Cunha is a friend of mine and she's been instrumental in helping me flesh out the article. Later! - Lucky 6.9 01:44, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)

rambot and articles
I've added your name to the opt out list to ask later when the status changes. In essence I stumbled upon the WikiTravel site purely by accident and I thought it was another cool project, yet it used the CC-by-sa v.1.0 license. Now since travel mainly has to do with going to places, in many respects it directly ties into articles that the rambot created. (BTW, the rambot FAQ and User:rambot both do and should always attribute the name to you!)  Now I've had some discussions on WikiTravel about changing their license to version 2.0 (which like the GFDL allows for "or later versions).  Version 1.0 is a draft version and shouldn't have been used, but alas it was.  So they have a similar problem, but they are much smaller.  Now since I wanted to contribute to WikiTravel, I wanted to use the U.S. city articles.  I mean every travel guide is going to have a line or two about some demographic statistics like the total population and the like, and some of that could be in theory copied from Wikipedia.  The problem is that many people, especially people like you, have made many edits to those articles and thus the licensing does not match.  So I started the project to multi-license all of the "rambot" articles so that I could use them with WikiTravel. That has entailed asking pretty much everyone for specific permission just for those articles. Now after the debacle at Talk:Oregon City, Oregon I learned some of the serious downsides of the GFDL. And I truely hope that a newer version of the GFDL fixes our problems, but I'm not being too hopeful at this point, especially since apparently they WANT it to be non-free (free being in the GPL sense). Still, you never know what might happen. When I started the project I realized that only around 4% of people don't want to multi-license at all, and almost 90% would rather just multi-license everything. Probably a third of those even went all the way and released into the public domain, which I don't recommend, but if they want to it is their right to do so. So I started asking people if they would multi-license ALL of their edits, because that seems to be what the majority of people want. Now I don't know if Wikipedia could ever move to a different license, but from my experience it has had a rather large support, and the progress in a few weeks by one person asking people has been substantial. It is still too early to worry about a Wikipedia fork or even a license change, but those types of discussions might come up if I can reach over 90% multi-licensing, which is extremely hard I would imagine. So I guess this long comment is to try and separate the two issues: 1) My desire to use all of the rambot articles on WikiTravel (which more people are comfortable with because of the smaller scale) and 2) Trying to multi-license all of wikipedia or at least improve the licensing if at all possible. Only #1 is reasonable at this point, but I'll try for both anyway. -- Ram-Man 15:30, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Meeting up
Two more upcoming boston meetups on Meetup/Boston, these next two thursdays. I hope you can make the later day, at least. +sj. +
 * Oh, and come to New York on Sunday! Everybody's doing it.  :-)  If you want to come up Saturday afternoon, I can give you a ride.  +sj  +

Too much Jack the Ripper
Please see talk Talk:Lewis Carroll, Talk:Patricia Cornwell, Talk:Walter Sickert and most particularly Talk:Prince Albert Victor, Duke of Clarence [unregistered user]

I'm not sure why this unregistered user is asking you to get involved, but if you know them, please tell them to actually read the discussion and pages in question before making snotty replies there and on my user pages. DreamGuy 23:34, Dec 5, 2004 (UTC)

 * Hi I really would appreciate it if you could please take a look at Talk:Patricia Cornwell Thank you. IVoteTurkey 11:08, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Bombing of Dresden in World War II
There is a staw poll going on at the moment at Talk:Bombing of Dresden in World War II please have a look and if you are interested please vote. Philip Baird Shearer 23:56, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Tweakette"?
Made me smile. Also following the martingale thread landed me into a morass of badly formatted & written articles on horse colors. Interesting, but even a quick once-over took me WEEKS AND WEEKS (all compressed into the last hour or so, of course). One never knows where this will lead one--unfortunately--. Elf | Talk 18:58, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

King Leopold
Last November you made some useful edits to an article I worked on called King Leopold's Ghost On the talk page you requested an english version of a website -- no such version exists, but I speak French and if you would like, I will translate the site.

the sitsZantastik 08:16, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Anon request (blanked earlier)

 * I've reverted this users edit. All other items were removed. Now, I've copied it here for your convenience. Mgm|(talk) 13:41, Mar 4, 2005 (UTC)

hello, I am a student from the british schools, I am sitting for the IB exam of chemistry in may. I ahve to perform an experiment related to alcohol. My idea was to get different alcoholic beverages and calculate its percentage. I thought that I could do this by a fractional distillation, so there I cpuld identity the quantity of alcohol in that beverage. but is there a better way of calcultating the %??? pleasde I thank you if you answer me thank you !!!!!!! Agustina (User:200.58.132.18)

Journalism wiki
Hi, Ortolan. I'd like to invite you to a new journalism wiki here. Maurreen 19:15, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

BOSTON WMEET?
another one :) +sj +  07:20, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)

soul article
you mention that the soul music article could use some helpers; i'm new and would love to help on that piece and any related ones. are there any specific tasks that need doing, or articles that need writing, or what?

Janis Joplin
Hey, Ortolan. :) Our paths haven't crossed since the early days of Blackface.  I just saw your comments in JJ.  I agree.  I had to change a blatant falsehood that was probably added after you left the piece.  I can't imagine you'd let it stand.  Anyway, I appreciated your comments on the talk page.  Never could understand the deification of Joplin.  She couldn't sing worth a damn. :p

I just noticed you haven't edited in quite a while. Since your last edit, Blackface has become a featured article -- thanks, in part to your valuable input. I hope and trust you are well. Peace. deeceevoice 08:56, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Just Hey
I realize this is so late as to seem gratuitous, but: welcome back. I missed your participation for a very long time and although I do not contribute as much as I used to, it is very encouraging to know you are back, Slrubenstein  |  [[User talk:Slrubenstein|Talk]] 00:06, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Classic Rock
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! 02:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Classic Rock
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most like classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! RENTA FOR LET?  19:03, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Peachtree Street
Hi, you made this edit in 2004 in which you mentioned a "Old Peachtree Street Road Highway" that runs to Alpharetta, Georgia. That claim seems dubious and I removed it from the article after another user brought it up. Maybe it was a mistake but if you have any further information please go to the article talk page and let us know. Thanks — GT 11:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Shake Rattle and Roll
Thanks for the edits on Shake Rattle and Roll. Just to preserve the honor of Haley (based upon your edit summary comment), it should be noted that to my understanding the bowlderizer wasn't actually Haley, but rather the great Milt Gabler himself. Cheers. 23skidoo 21:11, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Hairstyle
Hi, I see you reverted my revert. Why do you think "Contemporary Evangelist Billy Sunday regularly denounced "long-haired men and short-haired women" belongs in a list of hairstyles? That edit, made by an anon user, looks like vandalism to me. At best, it belongs somewhere else in the article, not in a list of styles (IMHO). Thanks, Brian 17:46, 22 August 2006 (UTC)btball
 * ok, I see. My humor setting must be on low today (probably is - there's a lot going on in real life). I can see why it can fit it the article and maybe with a lead in sentence (such as your explanation on my talk page) it will be easier to see why it fits where you put it. Thanks for your explanation - if I get creative I might take a shot at crafting a sentence to put the quote in context. And I hope that my question really did come across as polite, that was certainly my intent. Brian 18:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)btball

Can you help with a Boston Globe story?
I'm a reporter for Globe West doing a story about wiki articles for local cities and towns. Wanted to do a quick telephone interview with a contributor and saw you on the Newton history page. Please send me an e-mail at thomascaywood@yahoo.com if you have time to talk by Monday, Sept. 18, 2006. Sooner the better is best for me with deadline looming. Thanks, Thomas.

Saying
"Better to light a candle than curse the darkness" -- that's a great saying. I never really knew its meaning until you used it in the Skiffle article. Great job. Badagnani 17:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Yes, we're having a big problem in that regard at the deletion vote for the 9/11: Press for Truth article -- it seems that some people would rather ignore the families' voices (by deleting the article entirely) rather than face them, like ostriches. Badagnani 18:08, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Stevenson and Children's Literature
Thanks for reverting the deletion of my template. Please see my note on the talk page of the RLS entry. Sanjay Tiwari 02:20, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Skiffle
Good copy edit-I like it! Best wishes, Lion King 22:10, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Dizzy Gillespie
noticed you did some edits there a while back - check it out now, lot's of changes and a touch of controversy about the opening paragraph.--Smkolins 23:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Survey Invitation
Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. --WikiInquirer 03:36, 4 March 2007 (UTC)talk to me

Valdosta photos
I visited Valdosta late last year on business. It was a stunningly beautiful day so I took some photos. Lucky for me, Valdosta itself made for a great subject. :) Any other interesting things I should take photos of next time I visit? --mav 00:58, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Discussion worth your two cents
I remembered reading your views on Fahrenheit somewhere and this discussion maybe worth your two cents. Template_talk:Infobox_Weather Cheers.—MJCdetroit 01:45, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

West Newton
Thanks for correcting someone else's thing about the train station. I wrote the subsection about buildings destroyed for the turnpike and I was sure I had it right. I grew up in West Newton, but haven't been back since 1985. I was sure the train station wasn't there in 1985, but I hesitated to correct the other guy. I wrote the article on Peirce School, since I was in the fifth grade there when it closed and I was in the first 6th grade at the new one on Temple Street. Perhaps, you can solve a mystery for me. According to the Newton City assessment roll online, the old school at Chestnut & Austin is still owned by the city but is empty. Yet their aerial view of it shows a bunch of cars in the parking lot on the south side. The last time I was there I got the impression it was being used for apartments. Maybe it's being used for storage or school district offices? Perhaps you can tell me what's going on there. Thanks. I share many of your views on W. clariosophic 21:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Harry S. Truman
Hola! You added: "It was a common practice in southern states, including Missouri, to use initials rather than names." (by Ortolan88 (Talk | contribs) at 20:17, 30 November 2002) Do you have a source for this? We have been having an edit war in the Harry S. Truman article, thought if you had a source, that would be great. Thanks, carry on. WikiDon 18:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Well, of course I finally pulled it to get the edit war to stop. I was only going to put it back if there were some good sources (multiple). I'll leave it out. It's not that important. I did change it to "Scotch-Irish" per David McCullough. Thanks, carry on. WikiDon 02:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

hey
It is hard to judge your wikipedia-state from your user page, just now. But I wanted to drop you a note to say this: although it has been many years since we last crossed paths as long as you are around i will always have some hope for Wikipedia. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 21:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Rounder
Would you care to tell me why you reverted my edits to Rounder, since you failed to explain yourself in your edit summary? Keeping in mind that Rounder is a disambiguation page, not an article or a dictionary entry, its purpose is to help users find relevant WP articles that might be called "rounder". The information I removed belongs either in the Wiktionary entry or, if sufficiently notable, in a separate article. Please look at the Manual of Style regarding dab pages to see the guidelines for these pages. -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  15:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Rumble
If you have a problem with me see User talk:Hyacinth. Hyacinth (talk) 17:56, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Can you cite a source saying where Wray first used the power chord? Hyacinth (talk) 23:32, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I found one - Zitz, Michael. Fredericksburg Free Lance-Star. Fredericksburg, VA. "Fredericksburg Offered up Fertile Spot for Rock's Roots" December 20, 2005. Hyacinth (talk) 23:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

just poking around
We used to run across one another periodically, and haven't in a long time. I read your critique of WP and agree with it mostly and just wanted to say: I am glad you are beck editing. Slrubenstein  |  Talk 22:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hey Hey!
Hey Tom,

I remember when SV and I both put a lot of work to turn NOR into a serious policy. That was when she was fighting the Larouchites and I was fighting CheeseDreams. NOR seemed to be a crucial corellary to NPOV and "verifiability" that was essential to the integrity of the project. Now I see articles I largely wrote - based on real research, following the standards of the time, with a bibliography (just like real encyclopedia articles) but without the in-line citations typical of academic journals but not encyclopedias, and what I wrote has been deleted because it isn't cited. This is not what we meant! I really think the problem is that the rapid expansion of Wikipedia means LOTS of editors with not enough experience, and not enough good judgment, and no real community any more to make collective decisions ... the result is an overly literal reliance on policies, often in needlessly dumb ways. If you ever want to try to fix NOR or other policies, let me know.

I am more active than you but not by much. Helga and Lir, those were the days. The problem is, now no one believes in trolls. The number of policies have exploded, and now bad simply = "violated a policy." I believe in a lot of those policies, but the policies used to be props to support good judgment, now they are substitutes for good judgment, and people do not realize that the definition of a troll is someone who wreaks havoc while following the rules, literally. And I have seen too many editors I really really admire leave. It frustrates me deeply.

Mostly I just keep an eye on a few articles I put a lot of work into, and really care about. i like to see them edited because most of the time - honest! - the edits are improvements. But periodically someone has to come along and just add something downright dumb. This is what keeps me around.

Well, if you ever want to try to put up a fight to restore some lost sanity, count me in, but otherwise I hope you can stick around and just maintain your own little niche and know you are maintaining some bits of quality people will go to.

Steve PS so what is your Firefox advice? Is there a way to make it managable? Slrubenstein  |  Talk 00:16, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

I am just not so sure Windows is that great. By the way i just made three proposals at NOR - feel free to comment, Slrubenstein  |  Talk 01:01, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

The discussion at WP:NOR talk page is starting to heat up, here is a chance for you to express your concerns and perhaps shape some change ... Slrubenstein  |  Talk 17:53, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of fictional dogs
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Dr. Strangelove
Please note that I deleted from the article a mention that the crew of the B-52 is called "The Leper Colony", since I could find no indication of this in a recent viewing of the film. Since a search of the revision history seems to indicate that you were the first editor to include this material, I wanted you to know. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 04:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

On your departure
Heya, Tom. I appreciate you stopping by my page. Wikipedia is losing a talented, knowledgeable writer and editor. But, hey, you're (good editors are) leaving in droves. It's so bad, there've been a few articles I've noticed on the web to that effect. Jimbo's beloved ship/enpsychopedia is listing -- and badly.

Actually, I'm gone as well. I may drop in once in a blue moon, but I don't really write anymore either. It's a supreme waste of time. There's always some semi-literate, abysmally ignorant, opinionated a**hole coming behind the good editors and trashing their contributions. I'm sure you and I could name a long list of articles destroyed and many de-featured as a result.

I wish you well. I, too, have far better things to do with my time. If you're ever in D.C., hit my e-mail. Maybe we can have lunch. Take care of yourself. Peace to you -- and all the best to you and yours in the coming year. deeceevoice (talk) 18:26, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

 * You folks are (were) hilarious. Despite all your arrogant whining, this project is still going strong. Sure there are a lot of inept and bad faith editors, as was always to be expected. But competence and good faith mostly prevail. You left because you were no longer privileged. 2600:8802:5913:1700:2D28:9FA9:B7FB:D55 (talk) 08:34, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Really sad to see you have moved on. You will be missed. --mav (please help review urgent FAC and FARs) 17:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

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Raymond Hill
I saw your comment at Rocket 88. I'd thought about writing a brief article, but apart from the fact that he played with Ike Turner and was Tina's son's father, I've very little information on him - not really even enough for a stub. Do you have more information? If you do, you're the man to write it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:39, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I look forward to seeing it! Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:48, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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 * Why have you deleted the article? There was a developing consensus that it be kept and expanded, and that process had begun.  I've requested its undeletion.  Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:01, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

 * I'm going to ask the exact same question. Please respond ASAP, as this was a very improper use of admin tools ( talk→   BWilkins   ←track ) 10:31, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Origins of rock and roll
TLDR - I understand! Summary: the other editor is insisting on including, in the text, a statement that "Most rock historians consider "Rocket 88" to be the first rock'n'roll record" - because one journalist here made that claim. It's a tiresome debate, but necessary, unfortunately. Regards, Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:44, 14 August 2013 (UTC)  PS: Feel free to email me over shared interests - via my home page. Have you tried thisismyjam.com - I've heard a lot of stuff on there that's new to me!
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 * PS: Next stop is to see if I can put together a stub on Willie Kizart....  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:46, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Just seeking to clarify your comment on the talk page - are you in support of the line "Most rock historians consider the first to be "Rocket 88"...", in the second sentence of the "Views on the first rock and roll record" section? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:02, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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User:Greg Carter

[mailto:gcarter@cartersystems.com Greg Carter] lives with his wife and three children in the small town of Cloverdale, California, about 50 miles north of San Francisco. He is self-employed, and programs computers in Visual Basic for a living.

Hi Greg! Welcome to Wikipedia!

I hate to begin with a criticism, but :-) you've created a bunch of articles such as Mel Smith and Billy Crystal that are, to be frank, worse than useless for our purposes. Please see the perfect stub article on how to write a brief article on a topic.  Simply mentioning that an actor was in one (admittedly, charming little) movie just isn't a good start for an encyclopedia article.  IMO. --LMS

Hi Larry! Thanks for the welcome!

I see your point, and will remove the overly-stubby stubs. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Greg Carter

Well, you could always just add actual stub articles instead of completely removing them. :-) That would be more trouble, of course... --LMS

I added the stub articles. Please let me know whether they're the kind of thing you're looking for.

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Marion Tinsley

Marion Franklin Tinsley (February 3, 1927 – April 3, 1995) was an American mathematician and checkers player. He is considered to be the greatest checkers player who ever lived. Tinsley was world champion from 1955–1958 and from 1975–1991 and never lost a world championship match. He lost only seven games (two of them to the Chinook computer program, one of them while competing drunk and one in a simultaneous exhibition) from 1950 until his death in 1995. He withdrew from championship play during the years 1958–1975, relinquishing the title during that time. Derek Oldbury, sometimes considered the second-best player of all time, thought that Tinsley was "to checkers what Leonardo da Vinci was to science, what Michelangelo was to art and what Beethoven was to music."

Early life and education
Tinsley was born in Ironton, Ohio, but spent his early life in Greenup County. Tinsley was the son of a school teacher and a farmer who became a sheriff. He had a sister and "felt unloved" by his parents. To gain the affection of his parents, he competed in math and spelling bees as a child. He said of his parents' disapproval: "And as a twig is bent, it grows: As I grew up, I still kept feeling that way."

He skipped four of his first eight grades. He graduated from a Columbus high school at fifteen. Tinsley had a doctorate from Ohio State University in the mathematical discipline of combinatorial analysis. He worked as a professor of mathematics at Florida State University and Florida A&M University. Tinsley once claimed to have spent approximately 10,000 hours studying checkers while in graduate school. Tinsley also served as a lay preacher in the Disciples of Christ church.

Checkers career
After reading a book by Millard Hopper, Tinsley became interested in the game.

Tinsley enlisted in the Navy in 1945 and was stationed at Gulfport, Mississippi, where he won the Southern Louisiana Open. In 1946, he finished second behind William F. Ryan at the Newark National Tourney, losing the finals 2–1–11. Tinsley won four Ohio State Opens (1946, 1947, 1948, 1949), six Cedar Point Tourneys (1946, 1949, 1950, 1951 and 1952), and two Canadian Opens (1949 and 1950).

Tinsley was an eight-time three-move world champion (1954, 1955, 1958, 1979, 1981, 1985, 1987 and 1989) and once in two-move checkers (1952).

His 1951–1995 tournament record, excluding the Chinook games:

Chinook games
Tinsley retired from championship play in 1991. In August 1992, he defeated the Chinook computer program 4–2 (with 33 draws) in a match. Chinook had placed second at the U.S. Nationals in 1990 after Tinsley, which usually qualifies one to compete for the World Championships. However, the American Checkers Federation and the English Draughts Association refused to allow a computer to play for the title. Unable to appeal their decision, Tinsley resigned his title as World Champion and immediately indicated his desire to play against Chinook. The unofficial yet highly publicized match was quickly organized, and was won by Tinsley.

In one game from their match in 1990, Chinook, playing with white pieces, made a mistake on the tenth move. Tinsley remarked, "You're going to regret that." Chinook resigned after move 36, only 26 moves later. The lead programmer Jonathan Schaeffer looked back into the database and discovered that Tinsley picked the only strategy that could have defeated Chinook from that point and Tinsley was able to see the win 64 moves into the future.

The ACF and the EDA were placed in the awkward position of naming a new world champion, a title which would be worthless as long as Tinsley was alive. The ACF granted Tinsley the title of World Champion Emeritus as a solution.

In August 1994, a second match with Chinook was organized, but Tinsley withdrew after only six games (all draws) for health reasons. Don Lafferty, rated the number two player in the world at the time, replaced Tinsley and fought Chinook to a drawn match at game 20. Tinsley was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer a week after the match, and died seven months later.

Death
Tinsley died in Humble, Texas, on April 3, 1995, at the age of 68. He lived in Conyers, Georgia, but was visiting his sister in Texas when he died of cancer. He was survived by a twin sister, Mary Clark, who lives in Humble, Texas, and by two brothers, Ed, of Sarasota, Fla., and Joe, of Thornville, Ohio. He is buried at Greenlawn Cemetery, Columbus, Ohio, next to his father, Edward H. Tinsley and his mother, Viola Mae Tinsley. His brother, Harold Edward Tinsley is also buried there.

Television appearances
In 1957, Tinsley appeared as a guest challenger on the television game show To Tell the Truth.

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Walter Hellman

Walter F. Hellman  (June 15, 1916 – July 28, 1975) was the longest reigning world American checkers champion.

Background
Walter Oskar Fredrik Hellman was born in Gamla Nordsjö, Nordmaling, Sweden. His family moved to Gary, Indiana, United States, in 1927.

Career
Hellman first entered at the age of fifteen and won a Gary City chess tournament. He won his first Indiana State Tournament in 1933 at the age of seventeen. Hellman placed 10th in the masters' level at a young age of 18. Three years later, in the 9th American tournament of 1937 held at Martins Ferry, Ohio, Hellman placed third in the checkers. In 1946, Hellman entered and won the eleventh ACA American tournament held at Nashville, Tennessee, and also the third NCA American tournament played in Indianapolis, Indiana. In 1948, Walter defeated Asa Long to become the new World Checkers Champion.

Hellman held the title the American Checker Federation World Championship from 1948 until 1955 and from 1958 until 1975. Hellman lost only one World Title match, in 1955 to Marion Tinsley. Winning the 8 other occasions in 1948, 1949, 1951, 1953, 1962, 1963, 1965 and 1967. His final appearance in the checkers arena was when Hellman played on the U.S. checkers team in the third International Match between the U.S. and Great Britain at Bournemouth, England.

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Maximal ideal

In mathematics, more specifically in ring theory, a maximal ideal is an ideal that is maximal (with respect to set inclusion) amongst all proper ideals. In other words, I is a maximal ideal of a ring R if there are no other ideals contained between I and R.

Maximal ideals are important because the quotients of rings by maximal ideals are simple rings, and in the special case of unital commutative rings they are also fields.

In noncommutative ring theory, a maximal right ideal is defined analogously as being a maximal element in the poset of proper right ideals, and similarly, a maximal left ideal is defined to be a maximal element of the poset of proper left ideals. Since a one-sided maximal ideal A is not necessarily two-sided, the quotient R/A is not necessarily a ring, but it is a simple module over R. If R has a unique maximal right ideal, then R is known as a local ring, and the maximal right ideal is also the unique maximal left and unique maximal two-sided ideal of the ring, and is in fact the Jacobson radical J(R).

It is possible for a ring to have a unique maximal two-sided ideal and yet lack unique maximal one-sided ideals: for example, in the ring of 2 by 2 square matrices over a field, the zero ideal is a maximal two-sided ideal, but there are many maximal right ideals.

Definition
There are other equivalent ways of expressing the definition of maximal one-sided and maximal two-sided ideals. Given a ring R and a proper ideal I of R (that is I ≠ R), I is a maximal ideal of R if any of the following equivalent conditions hold: There is an analogous list for one-sided ideals, for which only the right-hand versions will be given. For a right ideal A of a ring R, the following conditions are equivalent to A being a maximal right ideal of R:
 * There exists no other proper ideal J of R so that I ⊊ J.
 * For any ideal J with I ⊆ J, either J = I or J = R.
 * The quotient ring R/I is a simple ring.
 * There exists no other proper right ideal B of R so that A ⊊ B.
 * For any right ideal B with A ⊆ B, either B = A or B = R.
 * The quotient module R/A is a simple right R-module.

Maximal right/left/two-sided ideals are the dual notion to that of minimal ideals.

Examples

 * If F is a field, then the only maximal ideal is {0}.
 * In the ring Z of integers, the maximal ideals are the principal ideals generated by a prime number.
 * More generally, all nonzero prime ideals are maximal in a principal ideal domain.
 * The ideal $$ (2, x) $$ is a maximal ideal in ring $$ \mathbb{Z}[x] $$. Generally, the maximal ideals of $$ \mathbb{Z}[x] $$ are of the form $$ (p, f(x)) $$ where $$ p $$ is a prime number and $$ f(x) $$ is a polynomial in $$ \mathbb{Z}[x] $$ which is irreducible modulo $$ p $$.
 * Every prime ideal is a maximal ideal in a Boolean ring, i.e., a ring consisting of only idempotent elements. In fact, every prime ideal is maximal in a commutative ring $$ R $$ whenever there exists an integer $$ n > 1 $$ such that $$ x^n = x $$ for any $$ x \in R $$.
 * The maximal ideals of the polynomial ring $$\mathbb{C}[x]$$ are principal ideals generated by $$x-c$$ for some $$c\in \mathbb{C}$$.
 * More generally, the maximal ideals of the polynomial ring K[x1, ..., xn] over an algebraically closed field K are the ideals of the form (x1 − a1, ..., xn − an). This result is known as the weak Nullstellensatz.

Properties

 * An important ideal of the ring called the Jacobson radical can be defined using maximal right (or maximal left) ideals.
 * If R is a unital commutative ring with an ideal m, then k = R/m is a field if and only if m is a maximal ideal. In that case, R/m is known as the residue field. This fact can fail in non-unital rings. For example, $$4\mathbb{Z}$$ is a maximal ideal in $$2\mathbb{Z} $$, but $$2\mathbb{Z}/4\mathbb{Z}$$ is not a field.
 * If L is a maximal left ideal, then R/L is a simple left R-module. Conversely in rings with unity, any simple left R-module arises this way. Incidentally this shows that a collection of representatives of simple left R-modules is actually a set since it can be put into correspondence with part of the set of maximal left ideals of R.
 * Krull's theorem (1929): Every nonzero unital ring has a maximal ideal. The result is also true if "ideal" is replaced with "right ideal" or "left ideal". More generally, it is true that every nonzero finitely generated module has a maximal submodule. Suppose I is an ideal which is not R (respectively, A is a right ideal which is not R). Then R/I is a ring with unity (respectively, R/A is a finitely generated module), and so the above theorems can be applied to the quotient to conclude that there is a maximal ideal (respectively, maximal right ideal) of R containing I (respectively, A).
 * Krull's theorem can fail for rings without unity. A radical ring, i.e. a ring in which the Jacobson radical is the entire ring, has no simple modules and hence has no maximal right or left ideals. See regular ideals for possible ways to circumvent this problem.
 * In a commutative ring with unity, every maximal ideal is a prime ideal. The converse is not always true: for example, in any nonfield integral domain the zero ideal is a prime ideal which is not maximal. Commutative rings in which prime ideals are maximal are known as zero-dimensional rings, where the dimension used is the Krull dimension.
 * A maximal ideal of a noncommutative ring might not be prime in the commutative sense. For example, let $$M_{n\times n}(\mathbb{Z})$$ be the ring of all $$n\times n$$ matrices over $$\mathbb{Z}$$. This ring has a maximal ideal $$M_{n\times n}(p\mathbb{Z})$$ for any prime $$p$$, but this is not a prime ideal since (in the case $$n=2$$)$$A=\text{diag}(1,p)$$ and $$B=\text{diag}(p,1)$$ are not in $$M_{n\times n}(p\mathbb{Z})$$, but $$AB=pI_2\in M_{n\times n}(p\mathbb{Z})$$. However, maximal ideals of noncommutative rings are prime in the generalized sense below.

Generalization
For an R-module A, a maximal submodule M of A is a submodule M ≠ A satisfying the property that for any other submodule N, M ⊆ N ⊆ A implies N = M or N = A. Equivalently, M is a maximal submodule if and only if the quotient module A/M is a simple module. The maximal right ideals of a ring R are exactly the maximal submodules of the module RR.

Unlike rings with unity, a nonzero module does not necessarily have maximal submodules. However, as noted above, finitely generated nonzero modules have maximal submodules, and also projective modules have maximal submodules.

As with rings, one can define the radical of a module using maximal submodules. Furthermore, maximal ideals can be generalized by defining a maximal sub-bimodule M of a bimodule B to be a proper sub-bimodule of M which is contained in no other proper sub-bimodule of M. The maximal ideals of R are then exactly the maximal sub-bimodules of the bimodule RRR.

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Peotone, Illinois

Peotone is a village in Will County, Illinois, United States. The population was 4,142 at the 2010 census, an increase from 3,385 in 2000. The city is about 43 mi south of Chicago. The village is home to the Peotone High School Blue Devils.

History
Peotone is a name derived from the Potawatomi language meaning come here.

Registered historic places

 * Downtown Peotone Historic District
 * Peotone Mill

Geography
Peotone is located at 41.32944°N, -87.795°W (41.329445, -87.795138).

According to the 2010 census, Peotone has a total area of 1.873 sqmi, of which 1.87 sqmi (or 99.84%) is land and 0.003 sqmi (or 0.16%) is water.

Main roads are Illinois Route 50, Interstate 57, Wilmington-Peotone Road, Rathje Road, and Joliet Road.

Peotone is about nine miles west of Beecher, six miles north of Manteno, six miles south of Monee and is approximately 20 miles east of Wilmington.

Demographics
As of the census of 2000, there were 3,385 people, 1,268 households, and 930 families residing in the village. The population density was 2,232.4 PD/sqmi. There were 1,299 housing units at an average density of 856.7 /sqmi. The racial makeup of the village was 97.93% White, 0.27% African American, 0.06% Native American, 0.47% Asian, 0.30% from other races, and 0.97% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 1.36% of the population.

There were 1,268 households, out of which 37.5% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 60.1% were married couples living together, 10.1% had a female householder with no husband present, and 26.6% were non-families. 22.4% of all households were made up of individuals, and 9.2% had someone living alone who was 65 years of age or older. The average household size was 2.67 and the average family size was 3.17.

In the village, the population was spread out, with 27.9% under the age of 18, 8.0% from 18 to 24, 29.3% from 25 to 44, 23.2% from 45 to 64, and 11.6% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 37 years. For every 100 females, there were 93.1 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 89.7 males.

The median income for a household in the village was $56,404, and the median income for a family was $61,768. Males had a median income of $47,500 versus $26,636 for females. The per capita income for the village was $23,415. About 0.7% of families and 0.8% of the population were below the poverty line, including 0.9% of those under age 18 and 3.5% of those age 65 or over.

Education
Peotone Elementary School (PES), located in town Peotone, serves kindergarten through 3rd grade. Peotone Intermediate Center (PIC), formerly Green Garden Elementary School in Green Garden Township, serves 4th and 5th grades. The Connor Shaw Center is home to the district offices and the Pre-K Center.

Peotone Junior High School serves grades six through eight, and has been located in the former Peotone Junior Senior High School building since the 2001-2002 school year; the high school continues to use some of the outdoor sports facilities at the junior high. Several referendums have been orchestrated to build a new sports complex at the new high school, but have failed; these have also included plans to build on to the existing high school and junior high in order to resolve overcrowding.

In 2001, a new high school was built on the northwest side of Peotone. It's named Peotone High School While the school was designed for a capacity of 600 students, its student enrollment for the 2010-2011 fiscal year was approximately 687. The school mascot of all schools, from elementary through high school, is the Blue Devil.

As of 2008, Peotone schools had a total enrollment of 2,107 students in kindergarten through 12th grade.

In 2014, the Peotone School Board, in a 4-3 vote, decided to close the Wilton Center Elementary School in Wilton Township. The remaining elementary schools were reformatted to grade centers.

Proposed south suburban airport
Peotone has long been the proposed site of a new airport to serve the Chicago area. As is often the case with the construction of airports, the proposal is controversial. In 1967, the Chicago Tribune ran several editorials regarding the need for a third airport in Peotone.

Proponents point out that the existing facilities at O'Hare and Midway airports cannot meet the transportation needs of the Chicago area, and that the development will bring economic prosperity to Chicago Southland, an area deprived of economic development, as well as the rest of the state. Politicians backing plans include former Governor Rod Blagojevich; former Representative Jesse Jackson Jr., Congressman Jerry Weller, the former representative of the district in which the airport would be located, and Will County Executive Larry Walsh. The efforts were also supported by then-state senator Barack Obama.

Opponents to the plan are concerned about the environmental disruption that would be caused by new airport construction and the roads that would be needed to support it. They also point out that Gary/Chicago International Airport in Gary, Indiana already exists, is closer to Chicago than Peotone, and is already undergoing expansion to support heavier use with minimal environmental impact. Politicians opposing the Peotone airport plan include former Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley, former Gary Mayor Scott King, Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels, and Representative Pete Visclosky from Indiana.

Former Representative Jesse Jackson, Jr. was the head of a private group in Cook County looking to take ownership of the proposed airport. A state-backed IDOT plan is more friendly to the citizens of the actual footprint of the proposed airport by giving local control of the airport to Will County officials instead.

In the science-fiction novel The Boy Who Would Live Forever (2004), which was the fifth in the Gateway series, Frederik Pohl has a character fly out of "Peotone International Airport". The late Pohl lived in Palatine, Illinois.

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A priori (disambiguation)

A priori (Latin, 'from the earlier') is a term used in philosophy and epistemology.

A priori or apriori may also refer to:

 * A priori language, a type of constructed language
 * A priori estimate, in the theory of partial differential equations
 * A priori probability, a probability derived by deductive reasoning
 * Apriori algorithm, an algorithm used with databases
 * aPriori Capital Partners, a private equity investment firm
 * Apriori Control (Apriori, LLC), later Reach-In, a technology company

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