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Collecting

The hobby of collecting includes seeking, locating, acquiring, organizing, cataloging, displaying, storing, and maintaining items that are of interest to an individual collector. Collections differ in a wide variety of respects, most obviously in the nature and scope of the objects contained, but also in purpose, presentation, and so forth. The range of possible subjects for a collection is practically unlimited, and collectors have realised a vast number of these possibilities in practice, although some are much more popular than others.

In collections of manufactured items, the objects may be antique or simply collectable. Antiques are collectable items at least 100 years old, while other collectables are arbitrarily recent. The word vintage describes relatively old collectables that are not yet antiques.

Collecting is a childhood hobby for some people, but for others, it is a lifelong pursuit or something started in adulthood. Collectors who begin early in life often modify their goals when they get older. Some novice collectors start by purchasing items that appeal to them and then slowly work at learning how to build a collection, while others prefer to develop some background in the field before starting to buy items. The emergence of the internet as a global forum for different collectors has resulted in many isolated enthusiasts finding each other.

Types of collection

The most obvious way to categorize collections is by the type of objects collected. Most collections are of manufactured commercial items, but natural objects such as birds' eggs, butterflies, rocks, and seashells can also be the subject of a collection. For some collectors, the criterion for inclusion might not be the type of object but some incidental property such as the identity of its original owner.

Some collectors are generalists with very broad criteria for inclusion, while others focus on a subtopic within their area of interest. Some collectors accumulate arbitrarily many objects that meet the thematic and quality requirements of their collection, others—called completists or completionists—aim to acquire all items in a well-defined set that can in principle be completed, and others seek a limited number of items per category (e.g. one representative item per year of manufacture or place of purchase). Collecting items by country (e.g. one collectible per country) is very common. The monetary value of objects is important to some collectors but irrelevant to others. Some collectors maintain objects in pristine condition, while others use the items they collect.

Value of collected items

After a collectable has been purchased, its retail price no longer applies and its value is linked to what is called the secondary market. There is no secondary market for an item unless someone is willing to buy it, and an object's value is whatever the buyer is willing to pay. Depending on age, condition, supply, demand, and other factors, individuals, auctioneers, and secondary retailers may sell a collectable for either more or less than what they originally paid for it. Special or limited edition collectables are created with the goal of increasing demand and value of an item due to its rarity. A price guide is a resource such as a book or website that lists typical selling prices.

Products often become more valuable with age. The term antique generally refers to manufactured items made over 100 years ago, although in some fields, such as antique cars, the time frame is less stringent. For antique furniture, the limit has traditionally been set in the 1830s. Collectors and dealers may use the word vintage to describe older collectables that are too young to be called antiques, including Art Deco and Art Nouveau items, Carnival and Depression glass, etc. Items which were once everyday objects but may now be collectable, as almost all examples produced have been destroyed or discarded, are called ephemera.

Psychological aspects
Psychological factors can play a role in both the motivation for keeping a collection and the impact it has on the collector's life. These factors can be positive or negative.

The hobby of collecting often goes hand-in-hand with an interest in the objects collected and what they represent, for example collecting postcards may reflect an interest in different places and cultures. For this reason, collecting can have educational benefits, and some collectors even become experts in their field.

Maintaining a collection can be a relaxing activity that counteracts the stress of life, while providing a purposeful pursuit which prevents boredom. The hobby can lead to social connections between people with similar interests and the development of new friendships. It has also been shown to be particularly common among academics.

Collecting for most people is a choice, but for some it can be a compulsion, sharing characteristics with obsessive hoarding. When collecting is passed between generations, it might sometimes be that children have inherited symptoms of obsessive–compulsive disorder. Collecting can sometimes reflect a fear of scarcity, or of discarding something and then later regretting it.

Carl Jung speculated that the widespread appeal of collecting is connected to the hunting and gathering that was once necessary for human survival. Collecting is also associated with memory by association and the need for the human brain to catalogue and organise information and give meaning to ones actions.

History

Collecting is a practice with a very old cultural history. In Mesopotamia, collecting practices have been noted among royalty and elites as far back as the 3rd millennium BCE. The Egyptian Ptolemaic dynasty collected books from all over the known world at the Library of Alexandria. The Medici family, in Renaissance Florence, made the first effort to collect art by private patronage, this way artists could be free for the first time from the money given by the Church and Kings; this citizenship tradition continues today with the work of private art collectors. Many of the world's popular museums—from the Metropolitan in New York City to the Thyssen in Madrid or the Franz Mayer in Mexico City—have collections formed by the collectors that donated them to be seen by the general public.

The collecting hobby is a modern descendant of the "cabinet of curiosities" which was common among scholars with the means and opportunities to acquire unusual items from the 16th century onwards. Planned collecting of ephemeral publications goes back at least to George Thomason in the reign of Charles I and Samuel Pepys in that of Charles II. Collecting engravings and other prints by those whose means did not allow them to buy original works of art also goes back many centuries. The progress in 18th-century Paris of collecting both works of art and of curiosité, dimly echoed in the English curios, and the origins in Paris, Amsterdam and London of the modern art market have been increasingly well documented and studied since the mid-19th century.

The involvement of larger numbers of people in collecting activities came with the prosperity and increased leisure for some in the later 19th century in industrial countries. That was when collecting such items as antique china, furniture and decorative items from oriental countries became established. The first price guide was the Stanley Gibbons catalogue issued in November 1865.

On the Internet
The Internet offers many resources to any collector: personal sites presenting one's collection, tools for tracking conditions and number of items collected, item identification tools, pricing guides, online collectable catalogs, online marketplaces, trading platforms, collector clubs, autograph clubs, collector forums, and collector mailing lists.

Some of the most popular collecting websites are StampWorld, Delcampe, and Numista.

Some of the most spread collectables online are stamps and coins.

Notable collectors

 * Alfred Chester Beatty — various collections
 * Barry Halper — baseball memorabilia
 * Bella Clara Landauer — various, primarily ephemera
 * Charles Wesley Powell — orchids
 * Christopher Ross, Imperial militaria
 * Demi Moore — dolls
 * Donald Kaufman — antique toys
 * Forrest J Ackerman — books and movie memorabilia
 * Geddy Lee — bass guitars
 * George Gustav Heye — Native American artifacts
 * George Weare Braikenridge — primarily art of Bristol
 * Hans Sachs — posters
 * Hans Sloane — natural history
 * Harvey H. Nininger — meteorites
 * Henry Wellcome — medical objects
 * James Allen — antiques and photographs
 * Joaquín Rubio y Muñoz — antique coins
 * J. P. Morgan — various, primarily gems
 * Kenneth W. Rendell — historical documents, primarily World War II
 * King George V — stamps
 * Magnus Walker — Porsches
 * Margaret Bentinck, Duchess of Portland — primarily natural history
 * Philipp von Ferrary — stamps and coins
 * Raleigh DeGeer Amyx — historical memorabilia
 * Sam Wagstaff — various collections
 * Tim Rowett — children's toys and novelties
 * Tom Hanks — typewriters
 * William Dixson — primarily Australiana

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Talk:MOS Technology 6502

FOLDOC WP:PLAGIARISM checked ~Kvng (talk) 18:15, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Sales "in the 100's of millions" out of date
The article claims that the 65C02/65xx family continues to be widely used, with "with estimated production volumes in the hundreds of millions".

The linked reference is to the Western Design Centre website. The actual paragraph there says: "...Annual volumes in the hundreds (100's) of millions of units keep adding in a significant way to the estimated shipped volumes of five (5) to ten (10) billion units. With 200MHz+ 8-bit W65C02S and 100MHz+ 8/16-bit W65C816S processors coming on line in ASIC and FPGA forms, we see these annual volumes continuing for a long, long time. The 65xx brand is probably the only processor family that has remained loyal to its ISA over the last 33 years."

The last 33 years since 1975, start of the '65xx brand', means this was written in 2008, making it 14 years out of date.

That website redirects you to a newer WDC website, which contains a revised statement: "Through the last 30+ years as one of the most popular microprocessor architectures of all time the 65xx brand is estimated to have over six billion embedded 65xx processors shipped and is growing by hundreds of millions of units per year, provided by WDC and its licensees."

The relevant text on that page looks like a rehash of the original site's text. The '30+ years' looks like a rehash of the '33 years', aimed to make it timeless so they don't have to worry about changing the website. So it's also not proven to be current and is likely out of date.

All in all, there needs to be better evidence that the 65C02/65xx family sells these quantities per annum, either in parts or as licenced IP.

Or the statement's wrong and should be removed - not just removing the quantities but also the claim of popularity and any volumes.

Since this applies to the 65C02, I have posted this on the Talk page there also. I did that a week or so ago but had no replies. ToaneeM (talk) 18:57, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

 * Using the weak ref we have, I think it is safe and robust to say that billions of these processors have been shipped. Documenting a more exact number or shipments per year will need ongoing attention and is potentially WP:PROMO. ~Kvng (talk) 15:57, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Instruction table layout
Should the instruction table have the rows 000xxx00 to 111xxx11 (approximately corresponding to instructions) and the columns xxx000xx to xxx111xx (approximately corresponding to addressing modes)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qalle2 (talk • contribs) 22:45, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps something like this (updated link). -Qalle2 (talk) 02:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
 * That's an interesting table but it might only be valuable for hard-core 6502 people. The current table seems fine. Johnuniq (talk) 02:50, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

The Tamagotchi probably did not use a 6502
The Wikipedia page states that the Tamagotchi used a 6502 and links to someones blogpost claiming it uses a 6502 with no evidence. Many pages, such as http://tama.loociano.com/, claims the original Tamagotchi uses a CMOS E0C6S46, which is more likely given its specs with, among other things, a controller for a LCD. Bjanders (talk) 17:47, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

 * The original Tamagotchi (P1) used E0C6S46, but a later version ("Tama-Go"?) used a 6502-derived GPLB5X processor.  Krótki (talk) 09:22, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

74158
"Peddle suggested that anyone that actually required this style of access could implement it with a single 74158." I don't see how that would work with just one, the 74158 is a quad 2-input mux, the bus is 16 bit. The source doesn't say "single" either, just "a". Someone with better knowledge of the topic, please fix Aecho6Ee (talk) 08:04, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes it looks like you need four of them. More usual would be tristate buffers like the 74367, but the MUX are fine, too. Many of the early chips, and I didn't look up this one, could barely drive one TTL gate. Gah4 (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes it looks like you need four of them. More usual would be tristate buffers like the 74367, but the MUX are fine, too. Many of the early chips, and I didn't look up this one, could barely drive one TTL gate. Gah4 (talk) 21:05, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

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On 24 Aug 2001 you started a stub Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - and you challenged Wikipedia "to improve on the quality of articles already out there." Well, it's been 3 and a half years, and I think it's turned into something pretty good. I hope you're doing well. cheers, Kingturtle 07:00, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for the pointer. It is, indeed, a good article now! — tbc 22:58, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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 * Thanks for the invite. I may do that when my job isn't so demanding. — tbc 00:02, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I noticed you mentioned me in your user page. I believe the Episcopal Church began calling itself TEC last winter (2006), I hope that helps!

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 * Ah, yes. In 2006 I was curious about that . Thanks for the info! — tbc (talk) 23:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

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G'day from Australia. I've just edited the Claudia Rosett article using information you provided. If you could take a look, I'd appreciate any comments or improvements you might have. Cheers, CWC (talk) 07:13, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

 * G'day, Chris. The edits look good to me. Then again, I haven't touched that page lately. It's evolved far beyond my modest first draft. — tbc 09:01, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

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Dude sorry about your mom. --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 00:01, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Yeah, I mentioned that at Wikipedia_talk:Deceased_Wikipedians. Thanks, Camilo. — tbc (talk) 15:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

MWUP 2009
I found your old user page while checking out some old deleted contributions. I have history merged it, so that all edits are in one place. Hope you don't mind. Graham 87 14:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi Tim, I've also moved your old user talk page to User talk:Tim Chambers/Old, and reverted it to the content version, while I sort out where the history went to on Meta. I've left a note about the history of the Meta version of that page here on Meta. Graham 87 15:13, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi Graham. Thanks for the maintenance, but I see zero diffs. — tbc (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

MWUP 2010
Hi Tim, I'm baaaaack; :-) I'm just going through the list of pages with the most edits on the Nostalgia Wikipedia. The null diff is normal; if the diff showed any change in the text, I'd be worried. Anyway, re: your Meta userpage, I've just asked a friend of mine to undelete it. It was deleted because the username "Tim Chambers" is not registered on Meta. Graham 87 13:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 * I've restored your userpage and moved it to your Meta username. Please ask to be renamed at m:Meta:Changing username. Thank you, Nemo 21:10, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Graham and Nemo, thank you so much! I hope I meet you both in person someday. Might have been my mistake. I see that I never renamed it from meta:User:Tbc. If it's all the same to the community, I'll just leave the redirect from Tim Chambers to tbc. — tbc (talk) 20:47, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * You're most welcome. Graham 87 00:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * BTW, you might want to create an account named "Tim Chambers" on Meta, just to make sure that the "User:Tim Chambers" redirect survives there. Also, I've replied to your question on Meta. Graham 87 01:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * You Stupid bot (but smart programmer, please don't misunderstand :). I did nothing. But I'm pleased others have improved the article. — tbc (talk) 20:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

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 * Sorry I don't read my wikimail more often, Buaidh. I'd love to help, but I don't have time right now. I did my small part with a tweet that was re-tweeted. — tbc (talk) 20:26, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

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Ellipsis button
Do you think you'd might have been better creating this currently unreferenced stub within the 'Usage in menus' section of Ellipsis, or making a new 'GUI' section there? Cheers Nick Moyes (talk) 01:06, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm satisfied with the stub I created. I was inspired when I saw the incorrect redirect of Kebab menu to Hamburger button. I don't think it makes sense to mention Ellipsis button in Ellipsis. I don't see Hamburger menu in Hamburger. I did add it to Ellipsis (disambiguation), though. — tbc (talk) 21:47, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm not at all satisfied with a tiny stub that fails to cite a single source. Please fix that, at least. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:33, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
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 * I was too busy Twittering today to respond promptly. So sorry. — tbc (talk) 07:14, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

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This article still needs lots of attention before I can submit it for the WIR-140 and 50,000 challenge. Earlier today, an editor (User:Toddst1) deleted an entire section of Anne Hawley before I had a chance to add more refs. Your Thank you is very timely and very much appreciated. I'm back to happy editing... SWP13 (talk) 04:58, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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I just wanted you to know that when you say "the Bible," you are just saying the book. That confuses people sometimes.

You should specify with the word "Holy." Mop700000 (talk) 19:27, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

 * @Mop700000 I appreciate you! God—Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost—loves you and so do I. I shall certainly keep that in mind from now on. — tbc (talk) 19:39, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

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Gender of the Holy Spirit
Given that there are valid arguments for a male, female and gender-neutral Holy Spirit, shouldn't this wiki use gender-neutral pronouns, such as "they" and "it" instead of "He" in related articles (and especially this one) to avoid bias?The Talking Toaster (talk) 17:48, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

 * After a quick look at this article, I'm not even seeing where the pronoun "he" is being used. Is it being used? As it relates to the religion-specific articles, it would come down to how the Holy Spirit is referred to in those religions. For example in Christianity, the vast majority of Christians today and historically consider the Holy Spirit to be a person of the Trinity. Therefore, it would be wrong to refer to the Holy Spirit at Holy Spirit (Christianity) as an "it". Furthermore, most Christians refer to the Holy Spirit as "he". While the minority viewpoint should be noted, it shouldn't be given undo weight so that we change every instance of "he" to "they". That's my opinion. Also, this might be something better addressed on each sub-articles specific page, since they each cover different religions. Ltwin (talk) 18:33, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

 * I agree. No big deal at all. History2007 (talk) 18:35, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Once patrilineality system had been set up, the Holy Spirit or any great God (Zeus, for example) were regarded as a Big Father. If matrilineality were dominant, we're supposed to have a Big Mother instead. Tuanminh01 (talk) 06:42, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

What makes you thing that "most Christians refer to the Holy Spirit as "he" "? It depends on the language. The Greek language term "πνεῦμα (pneuma)" is used the Bible and translated to English as "spirit". The term's grammatical gender is actually neuter, neither masculine nor feminine. See the article Gender of the Holy Spirit for variations. Dimadick (talk) 10:48, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

 * In traditional Christian theology, all persons of the Godhead are referred to in masculine pronouns. This is true even of English Bible translations as well. See John 14:26 in the King James, English Standard Version, the Douay-Rheims, and the English Revised Version: "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." Ltwin (talk) 19:33, 22 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Fathers carry Life. Billions in one small sac
 * Indeed fathers carry the seed that gives life to that monthly dying egg. Women carry. Men give life. God gave life. Jesus is his son. The holy spirit is a part of the triunal God. Not that difficult to understand but people can nowadays make everything over the top ridiculous. Masculinity plays a big role on this planet and it’s never gonna go away. It will live forever
 * Mothers ,yes women, you know your role. You are very important too. God forms you in the womb OK.
 * when you emasculate yourself that’s when you decide your seed ends. Your bloodline is done. For eternity.
 * God is not gonna rewrite the Bible to fit every generation.
 * Stop trying to change scripture when scripture. supposed to change you 2603:3012:380:4100:CC7D:4BF7:E562:B47E (talk) 12:58, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Argument for male pronoun seems POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Db919 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Our gender in the resurrection age will be the gender of the Holy Spirit. Neither male, nor female, but a totally new creation. A totally new gender that the world do not know. Amen Oluwaseyi229 (talk) 04:27, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia content must be based on coverage in independent reliable sources. Your belief is not a reliable source. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 14:15, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hindu View?
The proposition put forward here as the Hindu view of Holy Spirit strikes me as implausible in the extreme. As it stands this section screams "idiosyncratic mumblings of some California professor" to me. As for the idea that there is "a Hindu view" of ""the" Holy Spirit," I think the article would have to establish that there is any such idea before making good-hearted ecumenical, or other, claims about what the idea's content might be. David Lloyd-Jones (talk) 21:36, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You have a point. A lot of the existing material seems to relate to the Trinity, not the Holy Spirit per se. Does what is written below look any better to you?

 * In Hinduism, the concept of Advaita has been indicated as a parallel to the Christianity view of the Trinity, and in North India Indian Christians have associated the Hindu term Atman, the Ultimate reality or absolute, directly with the Holy Spirit. The relation has been discussed by comparative religion scholar Raimon Panikkar. He called the Holy Spirit, as one of the Three Persons of the Trinity of "father, Logos and Holy Spirit", a possible bridge builder between Christianity and Hinduism, saying “The meeting of spiritualistic can take place in the Spirit. No new 'system' has primarily to come of this encounter, but a new and yet old spirit must emerges."

 * I agree, it's nonsense. If there's any Hindu equivalent of the Holy Spirit it's the usually-dormant spiritual energy inhabiting the body known as kundalini shakti. Philip St. Romain’s book, "Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality" covers this parallel. I would quote from it but have no copy currently. 90.215.11.206 (talk) 22:25, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Zoroastrian View
I remembered a while back while browsing through Wikipedia that there was a section on this article on Zoroastrianism, but I noticed recently that it was removed for some reason. If there is a brief section on Hinduism and Buddhism, then surely Zoroastrianism also deserves a section, as it is mentioned very frequently in their belief system. However, I will indeed try to check the existing sources and replace them with more reliable and appropriate ones if possible. Aldergarbo (talk) 05:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

After looking at them, I believe the sources used were indeed unsuitable, and have replaced them with several new ones. The concept of a Holy Spirit is indeed central to the Zoroastrian faith as I understand it, and I do not believe it should be entirely omitted from the article. Aldergarbo (talk) 06:03, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Gender of the Holy Spirit
Do most religions like Judaism and Bahai Faith say that the Holy Spirit is male and/or female, or essentially genderless? Should it be mentioned somewhere in the article maybe?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.24.111.89 (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

I think the Jewish Encyclopedia has some information: "The spirit talks sometimes with a masculine and sometimes with a feminine voice (Eccl. vii. 29 [A. V. 28]); i.e., as the word "ruaḥ" is both masculine and feminine, the Holy Spirit was conceived as being sometimes a man and sometimes a woman." it also says something about "Shekinah" as well, which apparently may or may not sometimes be the same concept: "The Shekinah tinkled like a bell (Soṭah 9b), while the Holy Spirit also manifested itself to human senses in light and sound. The Holy Spirit had the form of a dove, and the Shekinah had wings." -- http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7833-holy-spirit http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13537-shekinah

In Buddhism section
In Buddhism is a Christian imposition of a false equivilency & narrative. It is offensive, and misleading, and propaganda. It does not imo belong in Wikipedia. Db919 (talk) 22:05, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

Cutrent text of section for reference: "Buddhism "In Buddhism, Holy Spirit is compared to Buddha-nature as a Buddhist image or Christ consciousness, a oneness with an all encompassing plan. Hence, the Holy Spirit is considered the "means of which the faithful develop and journey to their spiritual goal."[42] Citation makes it clear: Thomas Ragland (2003). The Noble Eightfold Path of Christ: Jesus Teaches the Dharma of Buddhism. Trafford Publishing. p. 107. ISBN 978-1-4120-0013-0. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Db919 (talk • contribs) 22:10, 25 October 2019 (UTC)

 * I would agree, the source appears to be a book of advice and evangelism, not scholarship. 73.71.251.64 (talk) 02:48, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

In Ephesians 1:17 What does mean when says The spirit of wisdom and revealation
Is this the spirit of man or something else — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.160.166.110 (talk) 16:06, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

 * The spirit is the holly spirit, known to guide prophets and messangers and even jesus talked to god through him 197.119.67.157 (talk) 18:31, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

"Rooah" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Rooah. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 22 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Jay (talk) 18:09, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Definition of the Holy Spirit
I have noticed that the first input definition only talks about what the Jews believe which does not represent the 3 Abrahamic religions like Islam or Christianity.

Since each Abrahamic religion has a different definition of the Holy Spirit, it seems appropriate to leave in the entry definition of the article what each religion believes.--Rafaelosornio (talk) 21:19, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Sounds about right, and fulfills neutrality and undue. Probably the only controversy with this would concern wording. What wording would you go with? Randy Kryn (talk) 21:27, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

 * It is difficult to redact the article since each religion (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) believe something different about the Holy Spirit. I hope the wording can be improved. In my opinion it should be mentioned what each religion believes.--Rafaelosornio (talk) 23:08, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Powers of the Holy Spirit
The Bible, the new one, the one that's only 2000 years old, talks of "powers of the Holy Spirit," reserved for those who are deemed by God to be worthy, and useful, and of some idea that good and bad aren't just imaginary ideas, and that that there is life anywhere in the Universe is something like a miracle. Speaking in a voice like James Earl Jones must be one of them. What others are there? Zahadan (talk) 02:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

 * I don't know about "powers". We have an article on spiritual gifts given by the Holy Spirit.

 * "These abilities, often termed "charismatic gifts", are the word of knowledge, increased faith, the gifts of healing, the gift of miracles, prophecy, the discernment of spirits, diverse kinds of tongues, interpretation of tongues."

Spirit de sancti, Spirit de sancti, Spirit de sancti!
I hear someone praying in latin and repeating the words: Spirit de sancti ! I can not hear anything of the first parts if the baptism prayer.. I see a image of someone casting holy water on an coffin with their hand, and repeating just Spirit de sancti.. Men named Johannes, and/or "Paulus the first" are there. It looks like a funeral. If I could hear something in latin like this, translate it and then see that it says: The Holy Spirit, and actually is a sentence that makes me believe that I could hear them pray fir their dead pope.. While another pope is praying and then sprinkling holy water on the casket with his right hand I think.... It must be a sign ? I do not speak any latin before I heard this beeing said like at a seremony, at the vatican most likely.. Medium88 (talk) 06:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

This page is about me so why can’t i comment
I’m the holy spirit Skannerz22 (talk) 14:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Holy spirit is "ruah" is breath
Strange to have a page on holy spirit that does not manage to mention that ruah in hebrew also means breath/wind, and that the original greek translation of the bible used "pneuma", which also means "breath". Would interestingly connect to the vedic notion of agni, the "breath" or "fire". 2A04:EE41:4:1111:1088:833:4BF6:F7A6 (talk) 19:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

This article is way off base on Judaism
This article is so far off base about Judaism that it should be considered to be a form of missionizing. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity#Judaism and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shituf#Judaism's_views_of_the_Trinity_doctrine and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit_in_Judaism#%22Spirit_of_God%22

I will make the necessary changes to remove any reference to a Jewish belief in the topic of this article if no one else disagrees. Ruttgc49 17:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

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