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Thursday

Thursday is the day of the week between Wednesday and Friday. According to the ISO 8601 international standard, it is the fourth day of the week. In countries which adopt the "Sunday-first" convention, it is the fifth day of the week.

Thor's (or Jupiter's) day

The name is derived from Old English þunresdæg and Middle English Thuresday (with loss of -n-, first in northern dialects, from influence of Old Norse Þórsdagr) meaning "Thor's Day". It was named after the Norse god Thor. Thunor, Donar (German, Donnerstag) and Thor are derived from the name of the Germanic god of thunder, Thunraz, equivalent to Jupiter in the interpretatio romana.

In most Romance languages, the day is named after the Roman god Jupiter, who was the god of sky and thunder. In Latin, the day was known as Iovis Dies, "Jupiter's Day". In Latin, the genitive or possessive case of Jupiter was Iovis/Jovis and thus in most Romance languages it became the word for Thursday: Italian giovedì, Spanish jueves, French jeudi, Sardinian jòvia, Catalan dijous, Galician xoves and Romanian joi. This is also reflected in the p-Celtic Welsh dydd Iau.

The astrological and astronomical sign of the planet Jupiter (♃ ) is sometimes used to represent Thursday.

Since the Roman god Jupiter was identified with Thunor (Norse Thor in northern Europe), most Germanic languages name the day after this god: Torsdag in Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, Hósdagur/Tórsdagur in Faroese, Donnerstag in German or Donderdag in Dutch. Finnish and Northern Sami, both non-Germanic (Uralic) languages, uses the borrowing "Torstai" and "Duorastat". In the extinct Polabian Slavic language, it was perundan, Perun being the Slavic equivalent of Thor.

Vishnu's/Buddha's/Dattatrey's Day
In most of the languages of India, the word for Thursday is Guruvāra – vāra meaning day and Guru being the style for Bṛhaspati, guru to the gods and regent of the planet Jupiter. This day marks the worship of Vishnu and his avatars such as Rama, Satyanarayana, Parashurama, Narasimha, and Buddha as well as the deity Dattatreya in Hinduism. In Sanskrit language, the day is called Bṛhaspativāsaram (day of Bṛhaspati). In Nepali language, the day is called Bihivāra as derived from the Sanskrit word same like in Hindi vara means day and Bihivāra meaning Bṛhaspati. In Thai, the word is Wan Pharuehatsabodi, also in Old Javanese as Respati or in Balinese as Wraspati – referring to the Hindu deity Bṛhaspati, also associated with Jupiter. En was an old Illyrian deity and in his honor in the Albanian language Thursday is called "Enjte". In the Nahuatl language, Thursday is Tezcatlipotōnal meaning "day of Tezcatlipoca".

In Japanese, the day is 木曜日 (木 represents Jupiter, 木星), following East Asian tradition.

Fourth day
In Slavic languages and in Chinese, this day's name is "fourth" (Slovak štvrtok, Czech čtvrtek, Slovene četrtek, Polish czwartek, Russian четверг chetverg, Bulgarian четвъртък, Serbo-Croatian четвртак / četvrtak, Macedonian четврток, Ukrainian четвер chetver). Hungarian uses a Slavic loanword "csütörtök". In Chinese, it is 星期四 xīngqīsì ("fourth solar day"). In Estonian it's neljapäev, meaning "fourth day" or "fourth day in a week". The Baltic languages also use the term "fourth day" (Latvian ceturtdiena, Lithuanian ketvirtadienis).

Fifth day
Greek uses a number for this day: Πέμπτη Pémpti "fifth," as does quinta-feira "fifth day," Hebrew:  (Yom Khamishi – day fifth) often written  ("Yom Hey" – 5th letter Hey day), and Arabic: يوم الخميس ("Yaum al-Khamīs" – fifth day). Rooted from Arabic, the Indonesian word for Thursday is "Kamis", similarly "Khamis" in Malaysian and "Kemis" in Javanese.

In Catholic liturgy, Thursday is referred to in Latin as feria quinta. Portuguese, unlike other Romance languages, uses the word quinta-feira, meaning "fifth day of liturgical celebration", that comes from the Latin feria quinta used in religious texts where it was not allowed to consecrate days to pagan gods.

Icelandic also uses the term fifth day (Fimmtudagur).

In the Persian language, Thursday is referred to as panj-shanbeh, meaning 5th day of the week.

Vietnamese refers to Thursday as Thứ năm (literally means "day five").

Quakers traditionally referred to Thursday as "Fifth Day" eschewing the pagan origin of the English name "Thursday".

Christian holidays
In the Christian tradition, Maundy Thursday or Holy Thursday is the Thursday before Easter — the day on which the Last Supper occurred. Also known as Sheer Thursday in the United Kingdom, it is traditionally a day of cleaning and giving out Maundy money there. Holy Thursday is part of Holy Week.

In the Eastern Orthodox Church, Thursdays are dedicated to the Apostles and Saint Nicholas. The Octoechos contains hymns on these themes, arranged in an eight-week cycle, that are chanted on Thursdays throughout the year. At the end of Divine Services on Thursday, the dismissal begins with the words: "May Christ our True God, through the intercessions of his most-pure Mother, of the holy, glorious and all-laudable Apostles, of our Father among the saints Nicholas, Archbishop of Myra in Lycia, the Wonder-worker…"

Ascension Thursday is 40 days after Easter, when Christ ascended into Heaven.

Hinduism
In Hinduism, Thursday is associated with the Navagraha Brihaspati, whom devotees of this graha will fast pray and fast on Thursdays. The day is dedicated to the deity Vishnu or his avatars, such as Rama, Parshurama, Narasimha, and Buddha. However, Wednesday is dedicated to his avatars of Krishna and Vithoba. Devotees usually fast on this day in honor of Vishnu and his avatars, especially Vaishnava Hindus.

Islam
In Islam, Thursdays are one of the days in a week in which Muslims are encouraged to do voluntary fasting, the other being Mondays.

Judaism
In Judaism, Thursdays are considered auspicious days for fasting. The Didache warned early Christians not to fast on Thursdays to avoid Judaizing, and suggested Fridays instead.

In Judaism the Torah is read in public on Thursday mornings, and special penitential prayers are said on Thursday, unless there is a special occasion for happiness which cancels them.

Druze faith
Formal Druze worship is confined to weekly meeting on Thursday evenings, during which all members of community gather together to discuss local issues before those not initiated into the secrets of the faith (the juhhāl, or the ignorant) are dismissed, and those who are "uqqāl" or "enlightened" (those few initiated in the Druze holy books) remain to read and study their holy scriptures.

Practices in countries
In Finland and Sweden, pea soup is traditionally served on Thursdays.

In Indonesia, and Malaysia, in a week, batik clothing is usually worn on Thursday, especially at education and civil servant institutions.

For Thai Buddhist, Thursday is considered the "Teacher's Day", and it is believed that one should begin one's education on this auspicious day. Thai students still pay homages to their teachers in specific ceremony always held on a selected Thursday. And graduation day in Thai universities, which can vary depending on each university, almost always will be held on a Thursday.

In the Thai solar calendar, the colour associated with Thursday is orange.

In the United States, Thanksgiving Day is an annual festival celebrated on the fourth Thursday in November.

Conventional weekly events
In Australia, most cinema movies premieres are held on Thursdays. Also, most Australians are paid on a Thursday, either weekly or fortnightly. Shopping malls see this as an opportunity to open longer than usual, generally until 9 pm, as most pay cheques are cleared by Thursday morning.

In Norway, Thursday has also traditionally been the day when most shops and malls are open later than on the other weekdays, although the majority of shopping malls now are open until 8 pm or 9 pm every weekday.

In the USSR of the 1970s and 1980s Thursday was the "Fish Day" (Рыбный день, Rybny den), when the nation's foodservice establishments were supposed to serve fish (rather than meat) dishes.

For college and university students, Thursday is sometimes referred to as the new Friday. There are often fewer or sometimes no classes on Fridays and more opportunities to hold parties on Thursday night and sleep in on Friday. As a consequence, some call Thursday "thirstday" or "thirsty Thursday".

Elections in the United Kingdom
In the United Kingdom, all general elections since 1935 have been held on a Thursday, and this has become a tradition, although not a requirement of the law — which merely states that an election may be held on any day "except Saturdays, Sundays, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Good Friday, bank holidays in any part of the United Kingdom and any day appointed for public thanksgiving and mourning".

Additionally, local elections are usually held on the first Thursday in May.

The Electoral Administration Act 2006 removed Maundy Thursday as an excluded day on the electoral timetable, therefore an election can now be held on Maundy Thursday; prior to this elections were sometimes scheduled on the Tuesday before as an alternative.

Astrology
Thursday is aligned by the planet Jupiter and the astrological signs of Pisces and Sagittarius.

Popular culture

 * In the nursery rhyme, "Monday's Child", "Thursday's Child has far to go".
 * In some high schools in the United States during the 1950s and the 1960s, rumours said that if someone wore green on Thursdays, it meant that he or she was gay or lesbian.
 * Thursday is the day of the Second Round draw in the English League Cup.
 * Super Thursday is an annual promotional event in the publishing industry as well as an important day in UK elections (see above).

Literature

 * Gabriel Syme, the main character, was given the title of Thursday in G. K. Chesterton's novel The Man Who Was Thursday (1908).
 * The titular day in Sweet Thursday (1954) (the sequel to John Steinbeck's novel Cannery Row (1945)), the author explains, is the day after Lousy Wednesday and the day before Waiting Friday.
 * In The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams, the character Arthur Dent says: "This must be Thursday. I never could get the hang of Thursdays". A few minutes later the planet Earth is destroyed. In another Douglas Adams book, The Long Dark Tea-time of the Soul (1988), one of the characters says to the character Thor, after whom the day was named: "I'm not used to spending the evening with someone who's got a whole day named after them".
 * In the cross media work Thursday's Fictions by Richard James Allen and Karen Pearlman, Thursday is the title character, a woman who tries to cheat the cycle of reincarnation to get a form of eternal life. Thursday's Fictions has been a stage production, a book, a film and an 3D online immersive world in Second Life.
 * Thursday Next is the central character in a series of novels by Jasper Fforde.
 * In Garth Nix's popular The Keys to the Kingdom series, Thursday is an antagonist, a violent general who is a personification of the actual day and the Sin of Wrath.
 * According to Nostradamus' prediction (Century 1, Quatrain 50), a powerful (but otherwise unidentified) leader who will threaten "the East" will be born of three water signs and takes Thursday as his feast day.

Cinema

 * Thursday (1998 film) is a movie starring Thomas Jane, about the day of a drug dealer gone straight, who gets pulled back into his old lifestyle.
 * The Thursday (1963), is an Italian film.

Music

 * Thursday Afternoon is a 1985 album by the British ambient musician Brian Eno consisting of one 60-minute-long composition. It is the rearranged soundtrack to a video production of the same title made in 1984.
 * Donnerstag aus Licht (Thursday from Light) is an opera by Karlheinz Stockhausen.
 * Thursday is a post-hardcore band from New Brunswick, New Jersey, formed in 1997.
 * "Thursday's Child" is a David Bowie song from the album hours...(1999).
 * "Thursday's Child" is a song by The Chameleons on Script of the Bridge (1983).
 * "Outlook for Thursday" was a hit in New Zealand for Dave Dobbyn.
 * Thursday (mixtape)" is the name of a mixtape by R&B artist The Weeknd released in 2011.

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Wednesday

Wednesday is the day of the week between Tuesday and Thursday. According to international standard ISO 8601, it is the third day of the week. In countries which have Friday as their holiday, Wednesday is the fifth day of the week. In countries which use the Sunday-first convention, and in both the Islamic and Jewish calendars, Wednesday is the fourth day of the week.

In English, the name is derived from Old English Wōdnesdæg and Middle English Wednesdei, 'day of Woden', reflecting the religion practiced by the Anglo-Saxons, the English equivalent to the Norse god Odin. In many Romance languages, such as the French mercredi, Spanish miércoles or Italian mercoledì, the day's name is a calque of Latin dies Mercurii 'day of Mercury'.

Wednesday is in the middle of the common Western five-day workweek that starts on Monday and finishes on Friday.

Etymology

 * See Names of the days of the week for more on naming conventions.

The name Wednesday continues Middle English Wednesdei. Old English still had wōdnesdæg, which would be continued as *Wodnesday (but Old Frisian has an attested wednesdei). By the early 13th century, the i-mutated form was introduced unetymologically.

The name is a calque of the Latin dies Mercurii 'day of Mercury', reflecting the fact that the Germanic god Woden (Wodanaz or Odin) during the Roman era was interpreted as "Germanic Mercury".

The Latin name dates to the late 2nd or early 3rd century. It is a calque of Greek ἡμέρα Ἕρμου (heméra Hérmou), a term first attested, together with the system of naming the seven weekdays after the seven classical planets, in the Anthologiarum by Vettius Valens (c. AD 170).

The Latin name is reflected directly in the weekday name in most modern Romance languages: mércuris (Sardinian), mercredi (French), mercoledì (Italian), miércoles (Spanish), miercuri (Romanian), dimecres (Catalan), marcuri or mercuri (Corsican), mèrcore (Venetian). In Welsh it is Dydd Mercher, meaning 'Mercury's Day'.

The Dutch name for the day, woensdag, has the same etymology as English Wednesday; it comes from Middle Dutch wodenesdag, woedensdag ('Wodan's day').

The German name for the day, Mittwoch (literally: 'mid-week'), replaced the former name Wodenstag ('Wodan's day') in the 10th century. (Similarly, the Yiddish word for Wednesday is מיטוואך (mitvokh), meaning and sounding a lot like the German word it came from.)

Most Slavic languages follow this pattern and use derivations of 'the middle' (Belarusian серада serada, Bulgarian сряда sryada, Croatian srijeda, Czech středa, Macedonian среда sreda, Polish środa, Russian среда sredá, Serbian среда sreda or cриједа srijeda, Slovak streda, Slovene sreda, Ukrainian середа sereda). The Finnish name is keskiviikko ('middle of the week'), as is the Icelandic name: miðvikudagur, and the Faroese name: mikudagur ('mid-week day'). Some dialects of Faroese have ónsdagur, though, which shares etymology with Wednesday. Danish, Norwegian, Swedish onsdag, (Ons-dag meaning Odens dag 'Odin's day').

In Japanese, the word for Wednesday is meaning 'water day' and is associated with 水星 (suisei): Mercury (the planet), literally meaning 'water star'. Similarly, in Korean the word for Wednesday is, also meaning 'water day'.

In most of the languages of India, the word for Wednesday is Budhavāra — vāra meaning 'day' and Budha being the planet Mercury.

In Armenian (Չորեքշաբթի chorekshabti), Georgian (ოთხშაბათი otkhshabati), Turkish (çarşamba), and Tajik (chorshanbiyev) languages the word literally means 'four (days) from Saturday' originating from Persian (چهارشنبه cheharshanbeh).

Portuguese uses the word quarta-feira, meaning 'fourth day', while in Greek the word is Tetarti (Τετάρτη) meaning simply 'fourth'. Similarly, Arabic أربعاء means 'fourth', Hebrew רביעי means 'fourth', and Persian چهارشنبه means 'fourth day'. Yet the name for the day in Estonian kolmapäev, Lithuanian trečiadienis, and Latvian trešdiena means 'third day' while in Mandarin Chinese 星期三 (xīngqīsān), means 'day three', as Sunday is unnumbered.

Religious observances
The Creation narrative in the Hebrew Bible places the creation of the Sun and Moon on "the fourth day" of the divine workweek.

Quakers traditionally referred to Wednesday as "Fourth Day" to avoid the pagan associations with the name "Wednesday", or in keeping with the practice of treating each day as equally divine.

The Eastern Orthodox Church observes Wednesday (as well as Friday) as a fast day throughout the year (with the exception of several fast-free periods during the year). Fasting on Wednesday and Fridays entails abstinence from meat or meat products (i.e., four-footed animals), poultry and dairy products. Unless a feast day occurs on a Wednesday, the Orthodox also abstain from fish, from using oil in their cooking and from alcoholic beverages (there is some debate over whether abstention from oil involves all cooking oil or only olive oil). For the Orthodox, Wednesdays and Fridays throughout the year commemorate the betrayal of Jesus (Wednesday) and the Crucifixion of Christ (Friday). There are hymns in the Octoekhos which reflect this liturgically. These include special Theotokia (hymns to the Mother of God) called Stavrotheotokia ('Cross-Theotokia'). The dismissal at the end of services on Wednesday begins with these words: "May Christ our true God, through the power of the precious and life-giving cross...."

In Irish and Scottish Gaelic, the name for Wednesday also refers to fasting, as it is Dé Céadaoin in Irish Gaelic and Di-Ciadain in Scottish Gaelic, which comes from chéad, meaning 'first', and aoine, meaning 'fasting', which combined means 'first day of fasting'.

In American culture many Catholic and Protestant churches schedule study or prayer meetings on Wednesday nights. The sports calendar in many American public schools reflects this, reserving Mondays and Thursdays for girls' games and Tuesdays and Fridays for boys' games while generally avoiding events on Wednesday evening.

In the Catholic devotion of the Holy Rosary, the glorious mysteries are meditated on Wednesday and also Sunday throughout the year.

Wednesday is the day of the week devoted by the Catholic tradition to Saint Joseph.

In Hinduism, Budha is the god of Mercury (planet), Wednesday, and of merchants and merchandise. Krishna, Vithoba, and Ganesha are also worshipped on Wednesday.

Cultural usage
According to the Thai solar calendar, the color associated with Wednesday is green.

In the folk rhyme Monday's Child, "Wednesday's child is full of woe". In the rhyme Solomon Grundy, Grundy was "married on Wednesday". In Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day, the disagreeable nature of the weather is attributed to it being "Winds-Day" (a play on Wednesday). In Richard Brautigan's In Watermelon Sugar Wednesday is the day when the sun shines grey. Wednesday Friday Addams is a member of the fictional family The Addams Family. Her name is derived from the idea that Wednesday's child is full of woe. Additionally, Wednesday sometimes appears as a character's name in literary works. These include Thursday's fictions by Richard James Allen, Wednesday Next from the Thursday Next series by Jasper Fforde and Neil Gaiman's novel American Gods. In the 1945 John Steinbeck novel Sweet Thursday, the titular day is preceded by "Lousy Wednesday".

Wednesday is sometimes informally referred to as "hump day" in North America, a reference to the fact that Wednesday is the middle day—or "hump"—of a typical work week. Lillördag, or "little Saturday", is a Nordic tradition of turning Wednesday evening into a small weekend-like celebration. Humpday is also a name of a 2009 film.

In Poland, Wednesday night is often referred by young people as "time of vodka", after song by Bartosz Walaszek "Środowa noc to wódy czas"

Astrology
The astrological sign of the planet Mercury,  ☿ , represents Wednesday—dies Mercurii to the Romans, it had similar names in Latin-derived languages, such as the Italian mercoledì (dì means 'day'), the French mercredi, and the Spanish miércoles. In English, this became "Woden's Day", since the Roman god Mercury was identified by Woden in Northern Europe and it is especially aligned by the astrological signs of Gemini and Virgo.

Named days

 * Ash Wednesday, the first day of Lent in the Western Christian tradition, occurs forty-six days before Easter (forty, not counting Sundays).
 * Black Wednesday, the day of a financial crisis in the United Kingdom
 * Holy Wednesday, sometimes called Spy Wednesday in allusion to the betrayal of Jesus by Judas Iscariot, is the Wednesday immediately preceding Easter.
 * Red Wednesday, the Yezidi festival celebrated in Iraq

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Tuesday

Tuesday is the day of the week between Monday and Wednesday. According to international standard ISO 8601, Monday is the first day of the week; thus, Tuesday is the second day of the week. According to many traditional calendars, however, Sunday is the first day of the week, so Tuesday is the third day of the week. In some Muslim countries, Saturday is the first day of the week and thus Tuesday is the fourth day of the week.

The English name is derived from Middle English Tewesday, from Old English Tiwesdæg meaning "Tīw's Day", the day of Tiw or Týr, the god of single combat, law, and justice in Norse mythology. Tiw was equated with Mars in the interpretatio germanica, and the name of the day is a translation of Latin dies Martis.

Etymology
The name Tuesday derives from the Old English Tiwesdæg and literally means "Tiw's Day". Tiw is the Old English form of the Proto-Germanic god *Tîwaz, or Týr in Old Norse. *Tîwaz derives from the Proto-Indo-European base *dei-, *deyā-, *dīdyā-, meaning 'to shine', whence comes also such words as "deity".

The German Dienstag and Dutch dinsdag are derived from the Germanic custom of the thing, as Tiw / Týr also had a strong connection to the thing.

The Latin name dies Martis ("day of Mars") is equivalent to the Greek ἡμέρα Ἄρεως (hēméra Áreōs, "day of Ares"). In most languages with Latin origins (Italian, French, Spanish, Catalan, Romanian, Galician, Sardinian, Corsican, but not Portuguese), the day is named after Mars, the Roman parallel of the Ancient Greek Ares (Ἄρης).

In some Slavic languages the word Tuesday originated from Old Church Slavonic word въторъ meaning "the second". Bulgarian and Russian Вторник (Vtornik) (уторак utorak) is derived from the Bulgarian and Russian adjective for 'second' - Втори (Vtori) or Второй (Vtoroi).

In Japanese, the second day of the week is 火曜日 (kayōbi), from 火星 (kasei), the planet Mars. Similarly, in Korean the word Tuesday is 화요일 (hwa yo il), means literally fire day, and Mars the planet is referred to as the fire star with the same words, but this is unrelated to the Roman god Mars, which is referred to phonetically as Mars.

In the Indo-Aryan languages Pali and Sanskrit the name of the day is taken from Angaraka ('one who is red in colour'), a style (manner of address) for Mangala, the god of war, and for Mars, the red planet.

In the Nahuatl language, Tuesday is Huītzilōpōchtōnal meaning "day of Huitzilopochtli".

In Arabic, Tuesday is الثلاثاء (al-Thulatha'), and in Hebrew it is יום שלישי (Yom Shlishi), meaning "the third". When added after the word يوم / יום (yom or youm) it means "the third day".

Religious observances
In the Eastern Orthodox Church, Tuesdays are dedicated to Saint John the Baptist. The Octoechos contains hymns on this theme, arranged in an eight-week cycle, that are chanted on Tuesdays throughout the year. At the end of Divine Services on Tuesday, the dismissal begins with the words: "May Christ our True God, through the intercessions of his most-pure Mother, of the honorable and glorious Prophet, Forerunner and Baptist John…"

In Hinduism, Tuesday is also a popular day for worshipping and praying to Hanuman and some also worship Kartikeya, Kali, Durga, Parvati, and Ganesha. Many Hindus fast during Tuesday. Many Hindu married women also observe the Mangala Gauri Vrat of fasting every Tuesday in the Hindu month of Shravana, as the month is dedicated to Gauri and Shiva. Tuesday is also viewed as the day ruled by Mangala (Mars) in Hinduism.

Cultural references
In the Greek world, Tuesday (the day of the week of the Fall of Constantinople) is considered an unlucky day. The same is true in the Spanish-speaking world; it is believed that this is due to the association between Tuesday and Mars, the god of war and therefore related to death. For both Greeks and Spanish-speakers, the 13th of the month is considered unlucky if it falls on Tuesday, instead of Friday. In Judaism, on the other hand, Tuesday is considered a particularly lucky day, because in Bereshit (parashah), known in the Christian tradition as the first chapters of Genesis, the paragraph about this day contains the phrase "it was good" twice.

In the Thai solar calendar, the day is named for the Pali word for the planet Mars, which also means "Ashes of the Dead"; the color associated with Tuesday is pink.

In the folk rhyme Monday's Child, "Tuesday's child is full of grace".

United States
Tuesday is the usual day for elections in the United States. Federal elections take place on the Tuesday after the first Monday in November; this date was established by a law of 1845 for presidential elections (specifically for the selection of the Electoral College), and was extended to elections for the House of Representatives in 1875 and for the Senate in 1914. Tuesday was the earliest day of the week which was practical for polling in the early 19th century: citizens might have to travel for a whole day to cast their vote, and would not wish to leave on Sunday which was a day of worship for the great majority of them. However, a bill was introduced in 2012 to move elections to weekends, with a co-sponsor stating that "by moving Election Day from a single day in the middle of the workweek to a full weekend, we are encouraging more working Americans to participate. Our democracy will be best served when our leaders are elected by as many Americans as possible."

Video games are commonly released on Tuesdays in the United States, this fact often attributed to the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 "Sonic 2s day" marketing campaign in 1992. DVDs and Blu-rays are released on Tuesday. Albums were typically released on Tuesdays as well, but this has changed to Fridays globally in 2015.

Australia
In Australia, the board of the Reserve Bank of Australia meets on the first Tuesday of every month except January. The federal government hands down the federal budget on the second Tuesday in May, the practice since 1994 (except in 1996 and 2016). The Melbourne Cup is held each year on the first Tuesday in November.

Astrology
In astrology, Tuesday is aligned by the planet Mars and the astrological signs of Aries and Scorpio.

Named days

 * Black Tuesday, in the United States, refers to Tuesday, October 29, 1929, part of the great Stock Market Crash of 1929. This was the Tuesday after Black Thursday.
 * Easter Tuesday is the Tuesday within the Octave of Easter.
 * Patch Tuesday is the second Tuesday of every month when Microsoft releases patches for their products. Some system administrators call this day Black Tuesday.
 * Shrove Tuesday (also called Mardi Gras – Fat Tuesday) precedes the first day of Lent in the Western Christian calendar.
 * Super Tuesday is the day many American states hold their presidential primary elections.
 * Twosday (portmanteau of two and Tuesday) is the name given to Tuesday, February 22, 2022, and an unofficial one-time secular observance held on that day.
 * Travel Tuesday is an unofficial observance occurring the Tuesday after Thanksgiving.

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Young Talent Time

Young Talent Time is an Australian television variety program produced by Lewis-Young Productions and screened on Network Ten. The original series ran from 1971 until 1988 and was hosted by singer-songwriter and record producer Johnny Young for its entire run. The show was briefly revived by Network Ten in 2012 and was hosted by singer and actor Rob Mills.

History
The series featured a core group of young performers, in the vein of The Mickey Mouse Club, and a weekly junior talent quest. The regular cast known as "The Young Talent Team" performed popular classic songs along with the top hit songs of the day. The original program launched the careers of a number of Australian performers including Sally Boyden, Jamie Redfern, Vikki Broughton, Debra Byrne (billed then as Debbie), Tina Arena and Dannii Minogue and spawned numerous hit singles, fifteen Young Talent Time albums, a film, as well as merchandise including swap cards, boardgames, toys, and mugs. The program won numerous Logie Awards.

Production details
Young Talent Time was produced as a joint venture by Lewis-Young Productions (the production partnership between host Johnny Young and his friend and colleague Kevin Lewis, one of the directors of Festival Records) and was taped mainly at the studios of ATV-10 in Nunawading, Melbourne although occasional shows were taped at the TEN-10 studios in Sydney or on location.

Many of the episodes from the early- to mid-1970s no longer exist as the tapes were wiped for re-use, being the official Network Ten policy at the time. Some later episodes from the series were repeated by pay TV broadcaster Foxtel in the late 1990s.

On average, 44 episodes were produced per year for 18 years. The episodes were broadcast in black and white from April 1971 to April 1975, thereafter in colour. The final episode aired on 23 December 1988.

Caravan Holiday
In the Christmas break between the first and second seasons of Young Talent Time, Johnny Young and the Young Talent Team shot a 22-minute colour film. (At the time, Young Talent Time still screened in black and white on Australian television.) Sponsored by the Caravan Trade & Industries Association Caravan Holiday was completed by early 1972 and released in cinemas across Australia as a supporting feature to Peter Bogdanovich's hugely popular US comedy picture What's Up, Doc? which starred Barbra Streisand and Ryan O'Neal.

The cast featured the then-current line-up of the Young Talent Team (Jamie Redfern, Rod Kirkham, Greg Mills, Philip Gould, Julie Ryles, Debbie Byrne, Vikki Broughton and Jane Scali) prior to Redfern's departure to tour the US with Liberace. Despite not appearing in the film, new team member Trevor Hindmarch turned up to the premiere, as seen in the documentary Young Talent Time Tells All.

It featured actor/comedian Buster Fiddess (as Mr Crawley) and Addie Black, and guest appearances by Johnny Young (in multiple cameos as a service station attendant, farmer, caravan site manager and speedboat lake), Evie Hayes and John Farnham (then known as Johnny Farnham) as himself. Fiddess died just a few days after he finished filming his scenes. There was also a film clip made for the Young Talent Team's version of The Cowsills' hit song The Rain, The Park and Other Things, shot in Melbourne's Royal Botanic Gardens, but despite not appearing on the actual recording, being recorded prior to their recruitment, Mills and Ryles appeared in the clip.

It screened on television just once, on Christmas Eve 1972. It was then unseen for three decades until a restored version was featured as a bonus extra on the 2002 DVD Young Talent Time: The Collection (Universal Pictures - 2002).

In the opening credit sequence, Jane Scali's surname is misspelt as Scarli.

Alumni
Over the original run of the show, from 1971 to 1988, there were a total of 40 cast members.

Members of the cast who found continued success after leaving the series and continue working as performers include Tina Arena, Vikki Broughton, Jane Scali, Jamie Redfern, Dannii Minogue, Karen Knowles, Sally Boyden, and Debra Byrne, Beven Addinsall and John Bowles.

The show had a policy that when team members reached 16 years of age, they had to leave the series and move on, but this rule would subsequently be stretched and broken.

Concerts and live appearances
Over the 18 years of the original show, Johnny Young and the various cast members made numerous live appearances all over Australia, performing full concerts or short publicity appearances at various venues.

In 1973, Young, the cast and Denis Walter supported Jamie Redfern in a series of live concerts. The Jamie Redfern Show sold out a number of shows at Melbourne's Festival Hall.

In 1987, an unanticipated audience turnout of over 4,000 people caused trouble at a concert at the Westfield Shopping Centre, Parramatta. Some fans were crushed in the crowd and the concert was cancelled. Joey Dee had to be treated for a knee injury and Courtney Compagnino had to be treated for shock.

In 1988, over 12,000 people attended an outdoor concert held in Brisbane at the 1988 World Expo, which was broadcast on television the following week.

At the end of 1988, Young and the cast performed a series of concerts. The final concert was held at the Melbourne Tennis Centre on 23 December, the same night on which the last episode of Young Talent Time aired on Network Ten.

Luna Park incident
In the early 1970s the cast performed at Luna Park Sydney. Due to the large crowd in attendance, they were unable to leave. Park management offered to stop the scenic railway so that the cast could exit through the tunnel. According to Greg Mills, the train driver was not told, and the train did not stop. The cast narrowly avoided death by pressing themselves against the wall of the tunnel. If not for Brad Boyden, Sally Boyden's father, neither of the team would have known that the roller coaster train was even approaching. Trevor Hindmarch came the closest to death or injury as his jacket was almost caught on the speeding vehicle as it passed. Fortunately Trevor lost only a button.

Final years
In 1988, an episode of Young Talent Time was shot in the United States. The two-hour special, Young Talent Time at Universal Studios, aired on 13 August 1988.

In its final years, Young Talent Time began to struggle for ratings, particularly following the decision of the Nine Network to move its popular early morning variety show Hey Hey It's Saturday to the 6:30 pm slot in 1985, which put it in direct competition to Young Talent Time.

After four years of dwindling ratings, in October 1988 Network Ten finally decided to move YTT to Friday nights at 7.30 pm, but the change did not help. The show was cancelled three months later. The general manager of Channel 10 Melbourne, Renny Cunnack, announced on 25 January 1989 that Young Talent Time would "not be resuming production in 1989". Cunnack himself was dismissed as General Manager three months later. The following day on Australia Day in 1989, the Young Talent Time cast performed a concert at the Sidney Myer Music Bowl in Melbourne.

Near the end of 1988, Johnny Young had invested a large amount of money in building his own TV studio complex in Richmond with the intention of producing the show himself and leasing it to Channel 10 but the termination of the show ended this plan and he was forced to sell his family home to finance his debts.

Network Ten continued airing compilation episodes in early 1989, initially as The Best of Young Talent Time at 7.30 on Friday nights, then as Young Talent Time Favorites at 11.00 on Saturday mornings. The last of these aired in Melbourne on Saturday 1 April 1989.

On September 26, 2021, Channel 10 aired a special anniversary edition of Young Talent Time. It marked the show's 50th anniversary.

List of team members 1971–1988

 * Vikki Broughton (1971–73) (first act to be signed)
 * Rod Kirkham (1971–73)
 * Phillip Gould (1971–75; 1975–76)
 * Debra Byrne (1971–75)
 * Jamie Redfern (1971–72)
 * Jane Scali (1971–76)
 * Greg Mills (1971–75)
 * Julie Ryles (1971–76)
 * Trevor Hindmarch (1972–77)
 * Sally Boyden (1973–76)
 * Derek Redfern (1973–76)
 * Karen Knowles (1975–80)
 * Steven Zammit (1975–80)
 * Debbie Hancock (1976–79)
 * Robert McCullough (1976–79)
 * Nicole Cooper (1976–81)
 * John Bowles (1977–81)
 * Tina Arena (1977–83; longest-serving cast member)
 * Bobby Driessen (1979–83)
 * Jodie Loebert (1980–83)
 * Joe(y) Perrone (1980–84)
 * Michael Campbell (1981–83)
 * Karen Dunkerton (1981–85)
 * Katie Van Ree (1981–86)
 * Mark McCormack (1982–83)
 * Danielle Minogue (1982–88)
 * Vince Del Tito (1983–88)
 * Beven Addinsall (1983–88)
 * Vanessa Windsor (1983–87)
 * Greg Poynton (1984–88)
 * Lorena Novoa (1984–87)
 * Tim Nelson (1984–87)
 * Natalie Miller (1985–88)
 * Mark Stevens (1985–88)
 * Courtney Compagnino (1986–88)
 * Juanita Coco (1987–88)
 * Joey Dee (1987–88)
 * Rikki Arnot (1987–88)
 * Jamie Churchill (1988)
 * Johnnie Nuich (1988; shortest-serving cast member)

The New Generation (1988)
In 1988 Johnny Young launched an American version of the show re-titled The New Generation.

Produced in Australia, it starred the current senior members of the former Young Talent Time cast: Dannii Minogue, Vince Del Tito, Natalie Miller, Lorena Novoa, Beven Addinsall; and a new member, Keith Williams, from Los Angeles. The show also featured regular appearances from the younger members of the former cast, who were billed as "The Young Generation": Jamie Churchill, Johnnie Nuich, Joey Dee, Courtney Compagnino, Juanita Coco and Rikki Arnot.

The New Generation was hosted by American Michael Young, the host of the Emmy Award winning Kids Are People Too. Thirteen 30-minute episodes were produced by Johnny Young's Television House and Fries Entertainment and screened on CBN Cable Network/The CBN Family Channel (now Freeform) in the US.

Young Talent Time (1990)
In 1990 Johnny Young self-funded and produced a one-off direct-to-video special titled Young Talent Time Now - 1990. It featured the final six members of the cast (Jamie Churchill, Johnnie Nuich, Joey Dee, Courtney Compagnino, Juanita Coco, and Rikki Arnot) and former cast member Beven Addinsall.

Young Talent Time (2012)
Network Ten and Granada Australia - in conjunction with Johnny Young and Johnny Young Music - were the producers of a revival of Young Talent Time. Taped before a live studio audience at Fox Studios in Sydney, the 15-episode series debuted on Network Ten across Australia at 6.30 pm on Sunday 22 January 2012.

Hosted by former Australian Idol 2003 contestant Rob Mills, the 2012 revival featured a regular Young Talent Team (of 10 members) performing a couple of group numbers each week, with one team member featuring in a solo spot each episode to showcase their individual talents. Starting from Episode 10, duets were sung instead of solos as each team member had performed a solo.

Each weekly episode featured three or four young contestants (or acts) under the age of 16. These solo performers, duos, groups, etc., included singers, dancers (ballet, hip hop, tap, jazz, etc.), musicians, sight acts, illusionists, comedians and so on. The winning contestant (or act) each week received $5,000 from NAB (National Australia Bank) and the Grand Final winner received $100,000. Sherrynne Johnson a young Tasmanian semi finals Winner was unable to return for the Grand Final due to unforeseen family circumstances.

The show's two judges/mentors were the original show's longest-serving Young Talent Team member Tina Arena (who appeared from 1977 to 1983 – six years 6 Months), and Filipino-American choreographer Charles Klapow, one of the winners of the Emmy Award for 'Outstanding Choreography' for High School Musical 2. Better known as 'Chucky' Klapow, he also helped choreograph the films Cheetah Girls 2, High School Musical and High School Musical 3: Senior Year as well as appearing in all three High School Musical movies as a dancer. He has choreographed for Mick Jagger and dances alongside Michael Jackson in the film Michael Jackson's This Is It. Klapow had previously been a judge on UK talent show Don't Stop Believing. TV Personality Ian Dickson filled in as judge while Tina Arena was ill for one episode. From the beginning of the finals competition he served as a full-time judge.

While the judges decided the winning contestant (or act) of each weekly episode, viewers could vote online for any of the weekly runners-up to become a 'wild-card' entrant, giving them a second chance of making it into the finals. On 20 March, it was announced that YTT would move to Fridays at 7:30 to 8:30, the current time slot of Glee. It is believed YTT was moved because of poor ratings on Sunday night resulting in the much more popular program The Biggest Loser taking the 6:30 to 7:30 timeslot. The YTT team then commenced a tour having shows in Melbourne, Sydney and Canberra. The Grand Final episode was aired on 4 May. The talent quest was won by first heat entrants and wildcard winners Lil' Banditz Krew. The all-boys Hip Hop troupe toured with the YTT team and Rob Mills in June and July 2012, visiting various Sydney venues as well as Melbourne and Canberra.

YTT was not renewed for a 2013 season because of poor ratings. However, such team members as Aydan Calafiore and Adrien Nookadu went on to have music careers and Georgia-May Davis worked with Disney Channel Australia. Lyndall Wennekes later starred on The Voice in 2014, Adrien Nookadu on The X Factor in 2014. Aydan Calafiore appeared on Australia's Got Talent in 2013 and auditioned for the 2017 and 2018 seasons of The Voice, being unable to turn a chair in 2017 but turning all four chairs in 2018. Aydan joined Joe Jonas' and ultimately placed 4th place on The Voice, which resulted in him releasing his own music as well as being on Eurovision - Australia Decides in 2019.

List of Team Members

 * Aydan Calafiore
 * Georgia-May Davis
 * Nicolas Di Cecco
 * Sean Emmett
 * Tia Gigalotti
 * Michelle Mutyora
 * Adrien Nookadu
 * Serena Suen
 * Lyndall Wennekes
 * Tyler Wilford

DVDs
A one-hour prime-time television documentary Young Talent Time Tells All aired on Network Ten on 29 October 2001. Produced and directed by former YTT cast member John Bowles, it was a tremendous ratings success celebrating the show's 30th anniversary. Bowles interviewed over thirty of the original cast members for the programme. Archive footage, including clips thought to have been lost, were interspersed with the YTT kids speaking about their experiences on and off-air.

A small reunion of YTT cast and crew members (including Tina Arena, Dannii Minogue and Johnny Young) was held in Melbourne in October 2003 to launch the release of an extended version of the Young Talent Time Tells All documentary on DVD (through Universal Pictures). The original documentary TV Special was extended, and bonus features and rare footage, not seen in the television version, were added. It was titled Young Talent Time: The Collection.

Bonus features on the DVD include a restored version of the 1972 short film Caravan Holiday featuring Johnny Young and the Young Talent Team; full biographies of all 40 Team Members and Johnny Young; Nicole Kidman's appearance as a guest on the show to promote her 1983 film BMX Bandits; assorted television commercials featuring members of the team; footage of some of the Team when they appeared as contestants on the show; and the full-length clip of sisters Dannii Minogue and Kylie Minogue performing the song "Sisters Are Doing It For Themselves".

Rare footage includes a nine-year-old Jamie Redfern (pre-Young Talent Time) appearing with Happy Hammond on a Channel Seven test broadcast of colour television in 1968, seven years before Australian television actually began broadcasting in colour.

TV Week Logie Awards

 * Best Australian Musical Variety Show of 1971
 * Best Australian Musical Variety Show of 1973
 * Best Australian Musical Variety Show of 1974
 * Best Australian Musical Variety Show of 1975
 * Award for Sustained Excellence (presented in 1982)
 * Johnny Young - Logie Hall of Fame (1990)

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Talk:Quantum Leap (1989 TV series)

Requested move 21 May 2022

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Too soon to judge whether the new show is a meaningful competitor of the older show for primary topic. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 03:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Quantum Leap → Quantum Leap (1989 TV series) – A brand new television series of the same title is scheduled to premiere on NBC this Fall. AdamDeanHall (talk) 13:56, 21 May 2022 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Wait Yes, NBC has slotted the new show in for this fall, but we have very little information about the new show beyond showrunners and stars. It's also not 100% clear if the new show will simply be "Quantum Leap" or something with a subtitle or the like. Also, its not sure if this new show will have a significant impact. If its a show cancelled mid-season, for example, I see no reason to move the original show off the title. Even now, the 1989 show has far more recognition than the new series. --M asem  (t) 14:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Masem. -- Vaulter  14:45, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose - per WP:TOOSOON, WP:CRYSTAL. -- Orange Mike |  Talk  15:41, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Masem. -- Netoholic @ 07:28, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose. In addition to agreeing with the WP:TOOSOON argument that there is not enough cited content to warrant a separate article as this time, I am reminded about something like the 2019 limited series revival of Mad About You: primary content of that 12-episode limited run was merged back into the main article instead of creating a separate Mad About You (2019 TV series) page. If eventually there is enough content to warrant a split like Dallas (1978 TV series) and its revival Dallas (2012 TV series), then yes, but not for Quantum Leap yet. Zzyzx11 (talk) 18:01, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose The Magnum, P.I. revival lasted four seasons, and even then it wasn't enough to dislodge the original as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. So I do not anticipate the same happening here. Nohomersryan (talk) 15:50, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose WP:TOOSOON to determine whether it will be an equivalent primary topic. The original show had a very large impact. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 21:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:TOOSOON. Aoba47 (talk) 00:04, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Oppose no point to do this at this point of time. When new show has its own article, hatnotes would suffice, and can consider including dabs for both at that point in time. WikiVirusC (talk) 01:29, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Proposed split into Quantum Leap (2022 TV series)

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I'm closing this discussion now, since the move for the new show article is now complete. QuasyBoy (talk) 02:06, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The new show premieres in less than a month (September 19, to be exact). With the little information we know about the show right now, a stub article should be sufficient for now, with more info added later until the show's premiere. QuasyBoy (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * A draft article has now been created for the possible move: Draft:Quantum Leap (2022 TV series). QuasyBoy (talk) 00:58, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

 * Support since we have a premiere date. --M asem (t) 01:30, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment perhaps this article should also be split, into a franchise article and an 1989 TV show article. The franchise article would include the ancillary media (comics, novels, books, proposed film sequels). The character list article would be for the franchise, while each TV show gets separate episode list articles -- 64.229.88.43 (talk) 11:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support the new show should absolutely have its own page to maintain the two shows as completely separate entities. Ckruschke (talk) 17:52, 6 September 2022 (UTC)Ckruschke
 * Support Two articles for two separate TV shows. This article should also remove any reference to the new show being “season 6”. I did remove them but they were re-inserted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7E:B67:D300:F0B8:4532:C7D2:3E7D (talk) 19:51, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Wait We are only 5 days from the premier - there's no rush. Let's wait until it airs, and see if that changes any perspectives. Nfitz (talk) 20:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Support. The new series—and it is clearly a series distinct from the original, not just a sixth season of it—merits its own article. Also support the idea to create a franchise article. The section “Other media” could be moved there. – Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 12:12, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 22 February 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. – robertsky (talk) 02:06, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

– Please note the lowercase 'l' in the second suggested move. The current hatnote on the article about the 1989 TV show illustrates the confusion. The article about the 2022 TV series is about twice as popular with readers as the article about the 1989 TV series, despite the other show being positioned as a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Moreover, the 1989 TV series was named after the much more widely known concept of a quantum jump or atomic electron transition in physics, which is a topic with far greater long-term notability. "Quantum leap" with a lowercase 'l' is currently redirected to the 1989 TV series, which seems particularly absurd, since the lowercase term is obviously not the proper formatting of a TV show title. The general idea of a sudden change (e.g. a paradigm shift) is also commonly called a "quantum leap", again derived loosely from the meaning in physics, as noted in the hatnote as well. I questioned the lowercase redirect twelve years ago on the redirect's Talk page, and I continue to think that a quantum leap (lowercase 'l') should not have a 35-year-old TV show as its presumed primary topic. Both TV shows should properly have uppercase, not lowercase, titles. — BarrelProof (talk) 23:18, 22 February 2024 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Quantum Leap → Quantum Leap (1989 TV series)
 * Quantum leap (disambiguation) → Quantum leap
 * Weak support still feel that given the scientific term is not the primary one for that phenomena, that the original TV show would have PRIMARYTOPIC, but as the new show has shown strong staying power, both shows are now relatively equal in considering PRIMARYTOPIC, and it would be better to have the topic search land on the disambiguation page. Note that I think you need to add a new redirect "Quantum Leap" that redirects to the resulting "Quantum leap" page. M asem (t) 23:28, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak support first, oppose second. Since the two series are not unrelated, with the second expressly being set as a later continuation of events in the first, the base page name should be a broad concept article on the franchise, the common aspects of the shows, and the various other media produced (notably books and comics). BD2412  T 01:16, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Two works do not make a franchise - the rule is generally 3 or more. And while I know there are QL novels, they are all presently non-notable on their own and tied to the first series, so should be covered there. The few common elements between the two shows are very weak even though they share continuity. M asem (t) 01:42, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, a franchise article would use a capital 'L'. Neither of the moves I am proposing would conflict with that. — BarrelProof (talk) 17:01, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. The 2022 series averaged double the pageviews of the 1989 series last year and even more this year|Quantum_Leap|Quantum_Leap_(2022_TV_series), so the original series is no longer the primary topic. (No objection to making Quantum Leap a broad concept article if someone wants to write one, but until then Quantum Leap should be the dab page or redirect to the dab page.) Station1 (talk) 07:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't really have an opinion about the TV series, but the scientific meanings need to be available in a disambiguation page at quantum leap, because I was astonished to find out that they weren't, in favor of pop culture topics that can't have significantly higher long-term significance. This hatnote we have right now is just unwieldy for navigation. The history of the redirect and Talk:Quantum leap also indicates a lack of proper consensus, this is just weird. Google Books Ngrams indicates the use of the term is clearly not strictly correlated with the TV series. (Support #2) --Joy (talk) 08:20, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support per nom.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:53, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support both per nom. Dicklyon (talk) 03:26, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Support. The original TV series is primary among the two TV series, but there is no primary topic overall. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak Indifference I once supported the idea that the redirect "Quantum leap" should be directed to this article, but.as that was before there were two separate series that use the same name, it may be more appropriate to change the redirect to a disambiguation page. Although I reject the premise that the new show is more popular than the old show. Recentism is the most likely reason why the new show has more page views. I suggest that if the redirect is changed, that we can review this page move in a few years, to see if the page views are the same or if they have changed.--JOJ  Hutton   15:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

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Manowar

Manowar is an American heavy metal band from Auburn, New York. Formed in 1980, the group is known for lyrics based on fantasy (particularly sword and sorcery) and mythology (particularly Norse mythology and Greco-Roman mythology), as well as numerous songs celebrating the genre and its core audience. The band is also known for a loud and emphatic sound. In an interview for MTV in February 2007, bassist Joey DeMaio lamented that "these days, there's a real lack of big, epic metal that is drenched with crushing guitars and choirs and orchestras... so it's nice to be one of the few bands that's actually doing that". In 1984, the band was included in the Guinness Book of World Records for delivering the loudest performance, a record which they have since broken on two occasions. They also hold the world record for the longest heavy metal concert after playing for five hours and 1 minute in Bulgaria (at Kavarna Rock Fest) in 2008. They also have been known for their slogan "Death to false metal".

Origins (1980–1981)
Manowar's history began in 1980 when Joey DeMaio, the future bassist of the band, met guitarist Ross the Boss while working as a bass tech and fireworks manager for Black Sabbath on the Heaven & Hell Tour. Ross the Boss, a former member of the punk rock band the Dictators, was the guitar player in Black Sabbath's support band, Shakin' Street. The two bonded over their shared musical interests, became friends and decided to form a band with the suggestion and advice of Ronnie James Dio during the tour. At the end of the tour with Black Sabbath, the duo got together to form Manowar. To complete the roster, they hired drummer Donnie Hamzik and singer Eric Adams, a former classmate and friend of DeMaio. The name Manowar was suggested to Joey DeMaio and Ross the Boss by their instrument designer, John "Dawk" Stillwell.

Battle Hymns (1981–1982)
On the strength of their debut demo, Manowar secured a recording contract with label Liberty Records in 1981. The label pressured the band to produce a good number of songs in a short time towards a debut album. The resultant album, Battle Hymns, was released the following year. The legendary actor and director Orson Welles served in the role of narrator on "Dark Avenger".

Soon after the album's release, Manowar engaged in their first tour. The band played support for hard rocker Ted Nugent, but their collaboration lasted only a few months. Manowar then decided to put together a short tour by themselves and all the arrangements were made in a few weeks by their manager. Despite these setbacks, the band gained domestic fame on this short tour and also began to get their first European fans, particularly in the United Kingdom and in Germany. Stressed from the strain of the continuing performances, Hamzik decided to leave the band at the end of this tour and was replaced with Scott Columbus.

Into Glory Ride and mainstream success (1983–1988)
By 1983, the band left Liberty Records and struck a deal with Megaforce Records in the US and Music for Nations in Europe—signing the contract in their own blood, to make a stance against the music industry they felt slighted by. The signing was a cover story in the 1983 July–August issue No. 47 of Kerrang!.

When Manowar returned home, they immediately went into a recording studio to produce what, in the intentions of the group, would have been a simple EP, but came out instead, due to the quantity and quality of the tracks made in that period, as the band's second album, Into Glory Ride. An EP was actually published in 1983 with the title Defender containing, as its main track, the eponymous song, which included more work by Orson Welles. The atmosphere of the album evoked classical heroic fantasy and mythology, and served as a predecessor to Viking metal. It contained several innovative features, both in style and sound, and led to a huge increase in the number of fans of the group, particularly in the United Kingdom, where the band planned a long tour that was ultimately canceled. The song "Defender" was later re-recorded and included in the Fighting the World album of 1987.

To apologize for the failure of their UK tour, Manowar decided to dedicate their next album to the United Kingdom. The album, Hail to England, was recorded and mixed in just six days and was released in early 1984.

Manowar soon returned to work in the recording studio. After leaving Music for Nations, the quartet released Sign of the Hammer ten months after their previous album.

Following further disagreements with their new label, the group changed record label to Atlantic Records in 1987. Via Atlantic, they released Fighting the World, which enjoyed more extensive distribution and increased the band's prominence in the international heavy metal scene. Album art was designed by Ken Kelly.

In 1988, Manowar released the album Kings of Metal, which is the band's best known work. Songs like "Heart of Steel", "Kings of Metal" and "Hail and Kill" are performed regularly in concerts. Kings of Metal is Manowar's highest-selling album worldwide.

Manowar embarked on a world tour, for a period of approximately three years, with stops in almost all European nations. During that tour, Joey DeMaio "fired" Ross the Boss. According to a 2008 interview with the guitarist, "Joey felt that Manowar would be better without me". He was replaced by David Shankle, who was chosen by members of the band after a search among about 150 candidates. Scott Columbus later also decided to leave the band during the Kings of Metal tour. Columbus himself picked his replacement Kenny Earl Edwards (soon nicknamed 'Rhino').

New albums, first video, and live publications (1992–2002)
A new musical unit after the recent changes, Manowar released The Triumph of Steel in 1992. It gained some success and was particularly famous for the presence of a suite lasting no less than 28 minutes entitled "Achilles, Agony and Ecstasy in Eight Parts", inspired by the events of the Iliad and the hero Achilles. After this release, the band went on a world tour for two years. After the expiration of their contract with Atlantic, the band signed with Geffen Records. In 1994, Shankle unexpectedly left the band to form his own group. He was replaced by Karl Logan, a musician met by DeMaio during a motor meeting. The same year saw the unexpected return of Scott Columbus, who replaced Edwards.

In 1996, they released Louder Than Hell, their first new studio album in four years. Despite good sales the album was criticized for its simple style.

Despite such criticisms, Manowar released a new collection, called Anthology, and their first live album, Hell on Wheels, released by BMG International in the guise of a double CD containing all the most popular songs of the group. Not having the time to record a new studio album because of the ongoing promotional tour, Manowar released a second live album, Hell on Stage.

Warriors of the World, Hell on Earth, and Magic Circle Music (2002–2005)
In 2002, six years after the last studio album, Manowar released the Warriors of the World album. Warriors of the World presented a sound somewhat renewed in style, but maintained the usual energy and power. The most famous tracks from the album became "Warriors of the World United", "House of Death" and "Call to Arms", in addition to Puccini's aria "Nessun Dorma", covered in honor of the Italian fans and sung live for the first time in a concert in Milan, Italy.

Manowar then began a long world tour, called "Warriors of the World United Tour" that kept them busy and away from a recording studio for a long time. To compensate for the lack of studio albums, the band released several DVDs: in 2002 the video Fire and Blood, in 2003 Hell on Earth Part III and in 2005 Hell on Earth Part IV. These (and all DVDs since the year 2000) were directed by Neil Johnson, and have all been certified Gold in Germany.

In 2003, DeMaio founded his own record label, Magic Circle Music, which became the official home of the band, having been created to fit the needs of Manowar, and other bands of similar genre. Under the label Magic Circle were also released the EP The Sons of Odin with footage taken during the Earthshaker Fest 2005.

Gods of War and Thunder in the Sky (2006–2009)
Manowar released Gods of War through Magic Circle Music in 2007. After playing numerous shows in Europe, including a concert that spanned the course of two nights, they worked on a new EP, entitled Thunder in the Sky, which was released in 2009. The EP consisted of two discs: the first playing the regular track list; the second playing the song "Father" in fifteen different languages.

Scott Columbus' death, Battle Hymns MMXI, and The Lord of Steel (2010–2013)
On June 1, 2010, Classic Rock magazine published an interview with drummer Scott Columbus who said that he had not worked with the band since April 2008 and had left the band. He also said that statements made in the past, regarding his break in 1990 and 2008 because of an illness and a personal tragedy, were largely untrue and were made without his agreement. On October 15, 2010, Joey DeMaio announced on Facebook that Hamzik was officially a member of Manowar again after a 26-year absence.

On April 4, 2011, Columbus died at the age of 54. On April 5, 2020, Columbus' daughter Teresa publicly announced that her father's cause of death was suicide, and urged for more awareness on mental illness and depression.

Manowar's subsequent release was a re-recording of their 1982 debut album Battle Hymns. This album was released on November 26, 2010, with the narration of Sir Christopher Lee and formally entitled Battle Hymns MMXI. On July 21, 2011, the band embarked on a UK tour for the first time in 16 years in November and performed the Battle Hymns album in its entirety.

Manowar's next studio album, The Lord of Steel, was released worldwide on June 16, 2012, exclusively on iTunes and on the band's own online store. The album sees a reversion from the symphonic elements present on the Gods of War album back to a more straightforward, heavy metal sound. The song "El Gringo" is featured in the soundtrack to the film of the same name.

After the Lord of Steel tour was over in 2013, Manowar released a live EP, titled The Lord of Steel Live, which included six live tracks recorded during the tour.

Kings of Metal MMXIV (2013–2014)
On July 28, 2013, Manowar announced that they would be re-recording their 1988 release Kings of Metal with an expected release date of late 2013. Brian Blessed recorded his narration for the track "The Warrior's Prayer" at Circle (Recording) Studios in Birmingham, England. Like the re-recording of Battle Hymns MMXI, this album allowed the band to use modern day technology.

Kings of Metal MMXIV was released through iTunes as a digital download on February 4, 2014. Hard copies of the album were released on February 28.

The embarked on a world tour in support of the album in 2014.

Upcoming twelfth studio album, Logan's arrest, and continued touring (2015–present)
On May 22, 2015, Manowar announced that they were currently working on a new studio album that was set to be released in early 2016. This album was not released, and instead they went to Europe in early 2016 for the "Gods and Kings World Tour 2016" which included their first concerts in Slovakia, Latvia and Belarus.

On May 25, 2016, the band announced that they would embark on their next world tour dubbed "The Final Battle". They would later recruit drummer Marcus Castellani from the tribute band Kings of Steel as their drummer for the tour.

On October 25, 2018, it was revealed that guitarist Karl Logan was arrested on August 9 in Charlotte, North Carolina, for allegedly possessing child pornography and was charged with six counts of third-degree exploitation of a minor. Manowar issued a statement shortly after saying that Logan would not perform with them. They then said that their upcoming album and tour would not be affected. Following Logan's arrest, former guitarist David Shankle expressed interest in rejoining the band.

On January 1, 2019, Manowar announced that guitarist E. V. Martel would join them on their tour. On March 22, 2019, the band announced that they would release a trilogy of EP's based upon The Final Battle World Tour. The first EP, The Final Battle I, was released on March 29 in an exclusive pre-sale at the merchandise booth in Frankfurt and also during the European shows. It was then released on iTunes worldwide that day. The EP was digitally and physically released on May 30. Former HammerFall and Yngwie Malmsteen drummer Anders Johansson was announced as the new live drummer shortly after and made his debut at the March 25 show in Brno. Despite the tour's name, bassist Joey DeMaio dismissed any claims of Manowar's retirement, mainly due to the fans' demands to have them continue to perform.

In June 2019, the band's appearance at Hellfest was cancelled for undisclosed reasons. Fans who were to attend the show expressed their disappointment towards their cancellation. Manowar stepped in and said that they did not cancel their performance, but that it was the festival's organizers who cancelled their appearance in an announcement that appeared on their website. Swedish band Sabaton replaced Manowar in the lineup. Joey DeMaio later said that the band filed a lawsuit against the Hellfest organizers.

In May 2020, Manowar announced that they would embark on a tour, beginning in April 2021 in Europe, to celebrate their 40th anniversary. However, the band did not tour in 2020 and 2021.

On June 4, 2022, the day of the first show of their 2022/23 tour, it was announced drummer Anders Johansson could not perform with the band on their upcoming "Crushing The Enemies of Metal Anniversary Tour '22/'23" due to family commitments, and was replaced by Dave Chedrick for the tour. On September 2, 2022, following the announcement by guitarist E. V. Martel that he would not be available for touring next year, the band announced Michael Angelo Batio as their touring guitarist for their upcoming 2023 "Crushing The Enemies Of Metal" Anniversary Tour.

Band members

 * Current members
 * Joey DeMaio – bass, keyboards (1980–present), guitars (2018–present)
 * Eric Adams – vocals (1980–present)
 * Dave Chedrick – drums (2022–present)
 * Michael Angelo Batio – guitars (2022–present)

 * Former members
 * Carl Canedy – drums (1980–1981)
 * Ross "the Boss" Friedman – guitars, keyboards (1980–1989)
 * Donnie Hamzik – drums (1981–1983, 2009–2017)
 * Scott Columbus – drums (1983–1991, 1994–2008; died 2011)
 * David Shankle – guitars (1989–1994)
 * Kenny Earl "Rhino" Edwards – drums (1991–1994, 2008–2009)
 * Karl Logan – guitars, keyboards (1994–2018)

 * Former live members
 * Marcus Castellani – drums (2017–2019)
 * E. V. Martel – guitars (2019–2022)
 * Anders Johansson – drums (2019–2022)

The Faceless Warrior
The Faceless Warrior, also known as the King of Metal, is the band's mascot. The character first appeared in 1988 on the cover of the album Kings Of Metal, and has since appeared in the cover artwork of almost every following Manowar album, as well as on merchandise and in almost every Manowar live show to follow.

In a May 2002 interview with Metal-Rules.com, vocalist Eric Adams was asked, "Who is that guy in your album cover? Do you have any name for him?". He replied, "No because he is you, he is her, he is this person he is that person and so on. He has no face and that was in [sic] purpose because everyone needs a heroes [sic] in their life and our music is all about heroes and you know being the leader not the follower. It's picture [sic] of hero and you being that hero is that what it is all about. So there is no real name for it. It's a fantasy world man. Put your face there are you are the hero!"

The Sign of the Hammer
"The Sign of the Hammer" is a cultural gesture developed in the early years of the band, after the release of their fourth album of the same name, and serves as a signature of the band: It is formed by raising the right fist above the head, while using the left hand to grab the back of the right wrist. The sign is most likely to have been shaped from the vocalist Eric Adams. The Media Company "Heilbronner Stimme" published an article describing the Sign of the Hammer as, "the striking greeting. A gesture that unites. A gesture that fits the pathos of the self-proclaimed Kings of Metal. A gesture that has become the trademark of the group founded in 1980".

The first official appearance of the gesture was on the front cover of the band's fifth album, Fighting the World, where vocalist Eric Adams is shown making the gesture in a drawing of the band members. The gesture then appeared in the official music video for Blow Your Speakers, shown being made by the band members and crowd during a concert, as well as in the full cover art of the album The Triumph of Steel. Since then, the sign has been featured in almost every official music video of the band.

Awards
Metal Hammer Golden Gods Awards

 * 2012 || Joey DeMaio || The Golden God || Won
 * 2012 || Joey DeMaio || The Golden God || Won

Discography

 * Demo albums
 * Manowar (1981)

 * Studio albums
 * Battle Hymns (1982)
 * Into Glory Ride (1983)
 * Hail to England (1984)
 * Sign of the Hammer (1984)
 * Fighting the World (1987)
 * Kings of Metal (1988)
 * The Triumph of Steel (1992)
 * Louder Than Hell (1996)
 * Warriors of the World (2002)
 * Gods of War (2007)
 * The Lord of Steel (2012)

Legacy and influence on other artists and the genre
Manowar have a very important place in the history and evolution of heavy metal music and are a significant influence in the heavy metal genre especially on subgenres such as: power metal, epic/ symphonic/ melodic metal, viking metal, war metal, pagan metal, folk metal, doom metal, gothic metal and death metal and "on every power metal band to emerge in the past 25 years". "Manowar's influence in the rock music industry is undeniable, they have left their mark in the heavy metal genre thanks to a combination of unique craftsmanship and characteristic songwriting". Manowar has influenced a huge amount of Heavy Metal bands and artists around the world, such as: Sabaton, Burning Witches,  Rhapsody of Fire, Brothers of Metal,  Warkings  Amon Amarth Battle Beast,   Beast in Black,  Death,  Elvenking,  Symphony X, Firewind,  Abbath Battleroar,  Exmortus,  Hammer King,  Jack Starr's Burning Starr, Battle Born, Rocka Rollas, Týr, Warrior Path, Wotan,  Wizard, HammerFall, Van Canto,  Ensiferum, Avatar,  Trivium, Majesty, Angra, Eternal Champion, Evertale, Death Dealer, Burning Point, Crystal Viper, Sacred Outcry, Imperial Age,  Therion,  Hercules, Lost Horizon, Visigoth, Atlantean Kodex, Vhäldemar, Grand Magus, HolyHell, Skelator, Doomsword, Ironsword, Metal Law, Orden Ogan  Pegazus, Battlerage, Hellish War, Holy Martyr, Grey Wolf, Moonspell Cryonic Temple, Runelord, Iron Kobra, Trick or Treat Hürlement, Assedium, Wrathblade, Rosae Crucis, Validor, Stormburner, Hysterica, Stormwarrior, Skullview, Steelpreacher, Kramp, Mike Lepond's Silent Assassins, Axe Steeler, Paladine, Vanlade, Claymorean, Arch Enemy, Korpiklaani, Marius Danielsen, Seven Witches, Adramelch, Steel Attack, Stormwarrior, Aktarum, Atramentus, Derdian, Dread Sovereign, White Skull, Heathen Foray, High Reeper& Hippie Death Cult, Ironflame, Khemmis,  Nocturnal, Seven Kingdom, Silver Bullet, Vanir, Veonity, Winter's Verge, Winterhymn, Wintersun, Falconer, Children of Bodom  Destroy Destroy Destroy Holy Dragons Arryan Path, Guardians of Time, Sons of Apollo, Sound Storm, Sulphur Aeon, Unleash the Archers Wolfthooth,  Crom, Coronatus Perpetual Etude Brainstorm Untamed Land Feuerschwanz  Immortal, Satanic Warmaster, Barathrum and many more.

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Gender?
From the first paragraph: "the voice (also called gender or diathesis) of a verb..." Gender of a verb? I've never heard that term; is there a citation? (I've also never heard of diathesis in this context, but I'm less ready to call that into question--still, a citation would be nice.) Mcswell (talk) 19:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I added both "gender" and "diathesis" orginially. I've just re-inserted "gender". It's a common enough expression in older literature. The reason that it rubs some people against the furs is probably due to sexual politics of the past few decades. However, "gender" (genus) didn't originally mean "sex" in Latin. It meant something broad like "type". There's a very frequent confusion about this among amateur linguistics who take "gender" to have something to do with modern sex roles. It doesn't. At least, it didn't originally. Bantaar (talk) 02:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Can you point to some sources that use gender to mean voice? John M Baker (talk) 02:33, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * From the on-line version of ENCYCLOPEDIA BRITANNICA: "in language, a phenomenon in which the words of a certain part of speech, usually nouns, require the agreement, or concord, through grammatical marking (or inflection), of various other words related to them in a sentence."

 * Okay, this doesn't conclusively prove my point, but notice the expression "usually nouns". In order to get more citations, I'll have to get up from the computer and pull down some books from the shelves. Bantaar (talk) 03:12, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * "genĕra verbi (Aspects gre: Διαθέσεις) 4.

genus actīvum (active). laudo I praise. genus medĭum (middle). lāvor = lavo me I wash, I wash myself. genus passīvum (passive). laudor I am praised (by somebody else). genus neutrum (neutral). dormio I sleep. "
 * -http://www.webtopos.gr/eng/languages/latin/verb.web.htm Bantaar (talk) 04:07, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Britannica clearly is talking about grammatical gender, a construction unrelated to voice. John M Baker (talk) 04:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Voice has nothing to do with agreement, so the Britannica example doesn't actually support your assertion. The Latin example only supports the use of the term genus, generis with that meaning in Latin (English gender, while ultimately deriving from genus by way of Old French, is not a direct translation). — Gwalla | Talk 06:13, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * OK, I yield. I've been looking through several books of grammar, and English language ones very consistently use the term "voice". Other languages (notably old Latin grammars of ancient Rome), often use the term "genus" which is etymologically the origin of the English "gender", but just as with the Britannica quote (which I admit to having added rather hastily), that's neither here nor there in this context. English language grammars, I admit, very consistently use the term "voice". Feel free to remove the term "diathesis" as well, if you like, since it's very Greek-oriented. Bantaar (talk) 19:02, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

 * I admit that my previous example wasn't very good. However, now rereading parts of Robert Beekes: "Comparative Indo-European Linguistics", I have come across a book where "gender" is clearly used as a term for "voice". See for example the very beginning of chapter 18: "The Verb", 18.1: "General", 18.1.1: "Introduction":

 * (quote:)
 * [...]In this way the following categories were long ago inferred for PIE:
 * gender: active, middle
 * tenses: present (with imperfect); aorist; perfect (perhaps with pluperfect)
 * moods: indicative, injunctive, subjunctive, optative, imperative
 * (end quote)

 * I don't know if one example, even from a prominent source in the academical source in the linguistic world, merits a reinsertion. My feeling is that it should be, because people may come across this use and try to look it up on Wikipedia, only to be told that the word "gender" has to do ONLY with categories of nouns. For such people, the Wikipedia entries as they are now, are particularly unhelpful. The discussion is, of course, ideologically related to the discussion that led to the split of "noun classes" from "gender" relating to nouns, which I likewise feel to be sadly unhelpful. Actually, I even feel that it might be better if terms were used more clearly, conformly and unambiguously throughout literature; however, that's not the case, so I'd still be in favour of even the inclusion of a disambiguation entry of "gender" to direct here. I'm not prepared to take up any time-consuming debate over the issue at the moment, however, so I won't make any changes to the main pages, at least for now, but offer the above quote only as support for anybody who might wish to pursue such improvements. Bantaar (talk) 12:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I, like others, was taken aback by this use of "gender" in the article on voice. Think of the poor naive reader who comes to the encyclopedia to get an introduction (!) to the concept of grammatical voice. This is probably not a person who will soon be reading "older literature". I take part in an online forum that discusses grammar with language-learners, many of whom are not familiar with the standard terminology. Sometimes I give them a link to Wikipedia to get an understanding of a basic term that they may not know. But if the article on voice is telling these beginners that voice is also called gender—and by the way, my concern has nothing to do with sexual politics—I can't in good conscience refer them to an article with such unnecessary complication. The Wikipedia guidelines say "Be bold", so, having given my rationale, I will do so and delete "gender". If you still feel that it is important, please consider putting "gender" in a footnote. Kotabatubara (talk) 21:25, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

"To be born"
I took Latin many years ago and vaguely recall that "to be born" is not active or passive voice, but something else. I was hoping to find something on this subject in this article, but alas, do not. Can anyone help? JKeck (talk) 05:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

 * "to be born" is English -- are you looking for genus neutrum, deponens or commune, or for supine? -84.161.8.150 (talk) 09:03, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Comment
This comment was inside the article, but IMHO that's a wrong place. If it's wrong, it shouldn't be inside the article. If it's doubtful, then it should be discussed here and not in the article. If it isn't wrong and if all doubts are cleared or if there are sources so one can ignore the doubts, then it should be re-inserted into the article. I, Shinobu, commented out this section because "open" is an adjective. Compare in Dutch:
 * De winkel is open.      - adjective       - The store is open.
 * De winkel is geopend.   - static passive  - The store is open. Someone must have done it, but now it's just open.
 * De winkel wordt geopend. - dynamic passive - Someone is opening the store, unlocking the door, turning the "open" sign and thus in the process of opening it.

This distinction is available in English through the use of the "be-passive" and the "got-passive", though this is not accepted by all speakers, and is considered colloquial or substandard in some circles:

 * The store is open.        - adjective       - The store is open.
 * The store is opened.      - static passive  - The store is open as someone has just opened the door.
 * The store gets opened.    - dynamic passive - Someone opens the store by opening the door, unlocking the door, turning the "open" sign and thus in the process of opening it

- 84.161.8.150 (talk) 10:01, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Middle Voice in Bengali?
I have no idea, where is the middle voice in Bengali. If anyone has any information about it, please give an example and source from which it has been taken. Ashutosh Jha (talk) 11:15, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Re-organization of content & structure
Over the next few weeks, we'll be re-organizing the content & structure of this article to regularize the presentation of the datasets in according with the norms of how to format natural language data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RM Dechaine (talk • contribs) 23:45, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Chinese and Japanese
You have added lots of valuable material about voice in Mandarin and Japanese which by now already quite much dominates the article. This article is about grammatical voice as a general concept, and not a place for amassaing data about voice from various languages of the world. Examples from individual languages are certainly fine and helpful as long they serve to illustrate the gerenal concept. But all the details which you have added here are not even found in Mandarin grammar and Japanese syntax, where they actually belong. I'd strongly advice to add the material in those articles (and maybe in a later step create specialized sub-articles), and to trim it here to a reasonable minimum. Your thoughts? –Austronesier (talk) 12:24, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, we are three undergraduate linguistics/speech science students working on our final project which is on the syntax of voice in Japanese, Mandarin and English. The project was to edit and add information to a wiki page regarding a specific syntactic topic. We were instructed by our professor to use this wiki page to edit and add our info to. We apologize for adding too much detail and taking away from the general concept. We agree that our info on Mandarin and Japanese voice would be better suited to the pages Mandarin grammar and Japanese syntax. However, we are graded on the content present on this specific Wikipedia page so we would appreciate if these sections could be kept for a little longer just until our project has been marked and then we would be happy to edit and transfer the info over to the other pages. –300voice (talk) 6:04, 18 December 2020 (PST)
 * I'm delighted to see such detailed exposition of a grammatical topic! However, I do agree with Austronesier that this level of detail belongs to the individual grammar articles about each language (and the content can even be plausibly split into Grammatical voice in Chinese, etc.), with a summary replacing it here. I'm not sure that all of it needs to be summarised either – I don't know anything about Chinese, but the section based on Yip et al. for example, seems less about passive voice proper and more about disparate grammatical devices that achieve the same pragmatic function as does the actual passive in languages like English. For the time being, of course I don't see anything wrong with having that content here. Also, that's not just about the newly added Chinese and Japanese sections: the older section "Dynamic and static passive" contains rows of examples for various European languages, which we could very easily do without. – Uanfala (talk) 17:14, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the more detailed background information, I for my part agree with that you can ahead first and build up your content on this page. We can think about moving it to other pages in a next step after your additions have been assessed by your instructor. Both of us of course cannot speak for other editors, who might see things differently. Though it's spilled milk now, to be on safe side, many class assignments make use of the "sandbox", where content can be built undisturbed with all the necessary trial-and-error, and only insert the complete material once into the main article. In any case, just give a sign when your project is finished. –Austronesier (talk) 20:34, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your understanding. We will let you know as soon as we receive our grade, which will most likely be sometime early in the new year. Happy Holidays! –300voice (talk) 10:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi, we have received our grade and we were wondering how we should go about removing or transferring the content to other pages. Any insight would be appreciated. Thanks! –300voice (talk) 4.35, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, hope you got an A :) Come to think of it, as long as we don't have really a good idea about how to distribute the detailed language-specific material to other existing/new articles, we can just leave the page as it is for the time being. –Austronesier (talk) 19:50, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting us know! Now that we are finished with the assignment we won't be checking this account very often so feel free to delete, edit or change whatever you see fit. Thanks again for your patience and understanding! –300voice (talk) 9:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Unsourced assertion
There's no citation for the article's following assertion: "When the subject is the agent or doer of the action, the verb is in the active voice." The assertion qualifies as an ipse dixit. The assertion is especially troubling because it includes the words, "doer" and "action." The definition therefore excludes syntax with a subject (i.e. not a "doer") that entails a copula/stative verb  expressing a status (i.e. not an "action"). Although I agree that a sentence like "This is strange" doesn't qualify as active voice (despite some linguistic theory to the contrary), there remains a lack of a citation for the article's assertion corresponding to that observation. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 08:40, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Fixed. I could not find a source for middle voice, but that is cited in its own section. A sentence like "This is strange" is called an "anticipatory construction," evidently not in Wikipedia but cited in Crews, p.438.—Anita5192 (talk) 18:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Your cite satisfies the Wikipedia criteria, but the article's assertion, as attributed to Crews, doesn't satisfy me. In my lexicon, "This is strange" constitutes neither active voice nor passive voice but stative voice. Don't bother googling the term; I coined it myself. On a separate note, you might want to re-examine your understanding of what anticipatory construction entails. (In my lexicon, it's termed a vicaritive pronoun. The term, "dummy pronoun," sounds too condescending for my tastes.) Cheers. --Kent Dominic·(talk) 00:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Issue with tree diagram in "Middle voice"
I described some concerns I had with the tree diagram for "(8) The window broke from the pressure/by itself." in the[|the talk page for that image file]. Wanted to make sure I also brought them up here. In addition to what was said there, I want to note that the text given in (8) does not match the linearization in the tree, since (8) gives the (somewhat ambiguous) "from the pressure/by itself" chain. I can't access the source of this 'adapted' tree, Alexiadou & Doron 2011. Do those authors actually construe the PP by as a complement of the agent-theta-role-bearing PP complement of V broke ? I think another example should be drawn up to illustrate, because as is, this sentence misinforms a careful reader. anon:73.219.15.198 (talk) 18:45, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Voice - Diathesis
attn:admin and. I do not know what is valid for other languages. But "voice (aka diathesis)"?? At least for Latin and Ancient Greek, vox, φωνή voice, wikt:el:Appendix:Glossary is a typological set of forms (by vox = how you say it), which usually -but not always- corresponds to a homonymous sense (diathesis, genus / genera verbi ( cf., preferably transl. as diathesis, to avoid fem/masc connotations )= the sense of what I say). It is indeed very confusing that the terms 'active', 'passive' are used for both voice and diathesis (=a meaning of inflectional forms). I see that Smyth#Anc.Gr.Grammar#voice uses a distinction 'transitive', 'intransitive', but I cannot find the word 'diathesis'. While all native Greek Grammars make a distinction of φωνή - διάθεσις/διάθεση, e.g. @current school textbook for Anc.Gr where 6.φωνές (voices) are discussed completely separately from 1.διαθέσεις (diatheses). Sorry that I cannot provide bibliography in English for diathesis, at least when concerning Latin, Ancient Greek, Modern Greek. Could en.wikipedia comment or clarify this issue? Thank you. Sarri.greek (talk) 16:14, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe the book Grammatical Voice (Zúñiga & Kittilä, 2019) can bring light to this question. Zúñiga & Kittilä use the following definitions (p. 4):
 * refers to any specific mapping of semantic roles (SRs) onto grammatical roles (GRs).
 * is defined here as a grammatical category whose values correspond to particular diatheses marked on the form of predicates.
 * So according to their definition, diathesis is the mapping (e.g. passive: patient → subject), while voice is the morphologically marked category (e.g. English passive voice expressed by 'to be' + past participle). In most languages, these are just two facets on the same thing (as in the case of "case", which can refer to a syntactic functional category and at the same time to its morphological realization). In a handful of languages, however, you can express diathesis without any morphological marking on the verb (e.g. in Tukang Besi, Manggarai or Palu'e); diathesis is only visible from the accompanying patterns of person-agreement and the case-marking of noun phrases. So in Zúñiga & Kittilä's terms, these languages have diathesis without corresponding voice marking.
 * In practice, however, linguists usually treat diathesis and voice as synonymous. So you will find that the above-mentioned languages are described as having "voice without morphological voice marking", instead of "diathesis without voice marking". –Austronesier (talk) 18:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Thank you M for you immediate and detailed response. I am neither a linguist, nor a wikipedian. I was just worried by the very first line's expression (voice, aka diathesis) which gives the impression of a tautonymy. And the lack of a clarification (as a language-specific?) which might be helpful to students of e.g. Greek for example, for an exercise of 'grammatical recognition' for a verb like εργάζομαι (= I work) by stating: 'verb. voice:passive. diathesis:active (or: voice:passive with active sense). tense:present. mood:indicative 1st person singular.' Thank you again. Sarri.greek (talk) 19:40, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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