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Talk:that

Usage note
The usage note here contradicts the one at which. 86.142.245.22 19:38, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

 * that makes a completely different point, I thought: that "that" can be omitted completely in some cases. which discusses the preference by a number of early 20th century usage experts to carve out distinct realms for "that" and "which". DCDuring TALK 20:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

What about the definition for the usage like: "It's not 'that' hard"? 24.136.77.239 11:08, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
 * That is an adverb sense - we are missing it - wait a while and I'll add it. SemperBlotto 11:13, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

If "that" could be used to define something to an extent or a degree, then couldn't "this" also be used that way? An example would be, "Someone this stupid couldn't have done it. 75.4.204.231 03:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with three things in this page.
Here are three things that bother me about the page. I'm not saying I'm right. I'm not a native English speaker, although I have studied the English language academically. Opinions and discussion are welcome, and so are demonstrations of me being wrong if it turns out to be the case.

(i) the Usage Notes for the Conjunction are, I believe, misleading. Is "that" really _often_ omitted? I would rather say it _sometimes_ is. (ii) As for the example -- "He told me that it is a good read." could just as easily be "He told me it is a good read." -- I disagree as well. It could not "easily" be the same. One is much heavier yet much clearer.

 * We could argue about whether it should be "often" or "sometimes". You may be right.  However, I disagree with your assessment of the example.  The meanings are identical and I don't think the version with that: is "much clearer" (in most contexts).
 * I am currently working on research papers, which often feature long/complex relatives. IMHO, it is often a bad thing for clarity when "that" is omitted. Then again, the "H" in "IMHO" is to be stressed, since I am not a native English speaker.
 * Long and complex relative clauses are a different case, but as I say, the example given is not one of those where clarity is lost by cutting "that".
 * Fair enough. Do we agree, however, that the example is then poorly chosen, since it is supposed to support the claim that "that" and "Ø" are pretty much the same, when, in fact, there is a non-negligible amount of situations where they are not?

(iii) the meaning "very" for the adverb "that". When you say "It is not that hard", you are not saying "It is not very hard", you are saying "It is not [as] hard [as you imply/think it is]", which is covered by the first definition. - I don't think I have ever seen the comparative/superlative versions of the adverb "that". Anyone has got examples, or is it because they simply don't exist?
 * Nnno, it certainly started that way, but nowadays the meaning is similar to saying "it's not especially hard" or "it's not very hard".
 * I'm sorry if this is nitpicking. It's probably not important anyway, but... oh well, I might as well try to explain myself =) What I'm saying (and perhaps wrongly so), is that I believe the meaning "very" is nothing more than the implication I've mentioned, and that, in this regard, it is wrong to present it as a strong definition of "that". As a native English speaker, could you think of sentences where "that" is used as "very" while not being easily replaced by what I wrote? More precisely, doesn't "that" refer to someone's expectations, while "very", though relative, is more independent? Would you say "it's not that hard to do" if you didn't expect people to find it hard to do? "very" seems to be like a judgement from the speaker, and "that" seems to be a correction of someone else's judgement. Again, sorry if it's nitpicking. At the very least, it'll help me have a better grasp of the English language! Thank you very much for your answers and contribution =) Augustin (140.77.14.195) 09:57, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * There is no problem with nitpicking. The problme here is that we are not talking about meaning per se but connotations of the word.  Sometimes, as you say, "that" implies that a distinction is being made between a given situation and previous expectations.  But not always.  Very often it is just a vague intensive ("I wasn't all that happy about my sister's wedding", "I got it wrong, but I suppose it doesn't matter that much").  Ƿidsiþ 11:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, point taken. I still have a "gut feeling" that in those sentences, "(all) that", "very", and "Ø" would all have different meanings (see my previous comment for how i would interpret them). However, this feeling may simply be a mistake. I'm not gonna nitpick anymore; after all, you're the English guy =P Thank you for your answers. Augustin 11:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I know this is an old conversation, but I think I agree with Augustin here. I'm a native English speaker (from Australia) and I would suggest that rather than "very hard", it probably means "as hard as [implied]".  In the examples you gave Ƿidsiþ, I would say they actually mean: "I wasn't [as] happy about my sister's wedding [as I had thought/I would have liked].", "I got it wrong, but I suppose it doesn't matter [as] much [as I'd previously thought/as it might've mattered]".  I think by way of use, this kind of misunderstanding is natural and understandable, but I don't think that means it is correct.  Following etymology and usage of the word would probably lead to this conclusion as well.  Davecw (talk) 03:36, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * You are probably right. Ƿidsiþ 14:37, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Common mistake for "than"?
I sometimes see "that" used in places where "than" would be appropriate. This is incorrect, right? I didn't have an example at hand so I googled for "more that" as a likely candidate, and it yielded e.g. "The removal of more that 500 snares during this survey", "I do not understand this reaction at all, is more that 2 kids really that bad?", "More that meets the eye", etc. It's not just the interwebs, I've seen this in respectable printed books also. -- Coffee2theorems 16:16, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Those are typos. Duoduoduo 17:47, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

O that...
"O that I had her here, to tear her limbmeal!" "O that my God would grant me grace / To know and do his will." What is that: doing in these vocative utterances? Is it a separate sense? Equinox ◑ 19:51, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Translations to be checked
Why does it keep moving to "Translations to be checked" in Conjunction section? I remember there were all checked and I checked personally a lot. Anatoli 01:05, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Do you mean, why do the translations keep getting moved to the ttbc section? If so, User:DCDuring does it. I have no idea why he does this. —Stephen 01:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I see. That's not the first time he moves translations to ttbc, if something small changes. Should we call all contributors to recheck their work!? Anatoli 01:18, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Pronouns
Do the two different pronouns really need to be split up like that? Seems a bit pointless (not to mention confusing) to me. Tooironic 03:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Unstressed Pronunciation
The unstressed everyday pronunciation IPA: /ðət/ seems to be missing from this page. I'd add it myself but I think that it is mainly (only?) for the conjunction, and I wasn't sure whether that would entail splitting the section. Sabretoof 20:25, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Derivation
Does the Old English derive from the Sanskrit "tat" (तद्, meaning "that")? 71.66.97.228 01:34, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

"That" = "Indeed"?
The adverb section includes:

 * (dialect) indeed.
 * The water is so cold!
 * That it is.

I don't think (that) this is right. I think "that" has the antecedent "so cold", and that word order inversion has occurred for emphasis. Duoduoduo 17:53, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Are you suggesting that, instead, this example falls under the pronoun usage of the word 'that' (ie. The second sentence is actually saying: "So cold it is." )? I think you may be right here. Davecw (talk) 03:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC) -EDIT: It's already been shifted. My bad :\

Prescriptive?
Hi, please don't revert without giving a reason in the edit summary. The passage you restored is

 * In this sense, that is prescriptively used in restrictive contexts only. For non-restrictive contexts, e.g. I like the last song on the album, which John wrote (one out of many), which is preferred.

There are two things wrong with this. First, the non-restrictive clause "which John wrote" does not imply that John has written many. Second and more important, that is never used non-restrictively: no one would ever say I like the last song on the album, that John wrote (except possibly as a shortened version of I like the last song on the album, the one that John wrote, which is restrictive). Duoduoduo 18:23, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

 * You're just plain wrong. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:33, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

 * How do users actually use the word? As you must know from experience, many users don't respect the prescription. That is usually the principal reason for the existence of the prescription. Wiktionary attempts to be descriptive. Please do not insert purely prescriptive material as if it were a universal fact of usage.

 * Admittedly, it is difficult to find the right wording for usage notes that reflects prevailing grammatical and stylistic prescriptive opinion and reflects actual usage. Many distinctions that occur in careful, educated writing do not occur in speech, written dialog, less careful writing, and other contexts. DCDuring TALK 18:35, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I'm well aware that Wiktionary attempts to be descriptive, and I disagree that I have inserted purely prescriptive material as if it were a universal fact of usage.

 * The comment from DCDuring is slightly more subtle than that from Mglovesfun, but it amounts to the same thing -- an unsupported assertion that people sometimes use "that" non-restrictively. I do not know from experience (nor from the descriptive literature on the English language) that this ever happens. If you want the entry to make an assertion that "that" is sometimes used that way, you should back it up with some quotes. Duoduoduo 18:48, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Garner's Modern American Usage is contemporary and has a rating system for the degree of acceptance of various usages. I don't know what other modern sources there are that might be considered authoritative, especially reflecting UK practice, Burchfield's revision of Fowler? DCDuring TALK 21:59, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * These look like uses of that with a non-restrictive clause:
 * It is tedious to look for them. Google is unlikely to help much, as it ignores punctuation, which can be a clue for non-restrictive clauses.
 * Garner's refers to this as a less common error than the oft-proscribed use of which where that is preferred. DCDuring TALK 23:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It is tedious to look for them. Google is unlikely to help much, as it ignores punctuation, which can be a clue for non-restrictive clauses.
 * Garner's refers to this as a less common error than the oft-proscribed use of which where that is preferred. DCDuring TALK 23:22, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

I agree that finding something like this, if it exists, will be hard. I've just never noticed anyone saying it before, despite the fact that I always listen to how people use English. And I'm sure I've seen it said in the literature, just in passing as if it were uncontroversial, that the use in the non-restrictive context never occurs. But that, too, would be hard to track down.

As for your proposed examples, neither one works -- they are both examples of restrictive clauses.

 * Then, you need to construct the framework that responds to the needs and aspirations of the Afghan people, that are simultaneously the requirements of our international partners.

Since not all the needs and aspirations of the Afghan people are simultaneously the requirements of our international partners, the last "that" clause serves to narrow down which needs and aspirations are being referred to. The comma before the last "that", or the speaker's possible pause that may have induced it, is either not called for or is simply induced by the substantial length of the sentence.

 * Laura Reiff, do the businesses, that are your members, find what they need in this temporary worker program?

Since not all businesses are her organization's members, the "that" clause serves to narrow down which businesses are being referred to.

Perhaps the other examples you and Mglovesfun believe you've noticed in the past have been like these.

I'll try to find a valid example (though of course I'm skeptical that any such example exists). It's an interesting issue. But in the meantime, in the absence of empirical evidence of this usage, I propose that the disputed passage "In actual usage this prescription is not always followed" be deleted. That would be a compromise, as the remainder of the paragraph would still be describing something as a prescription rather than as both a prescription and a description. Duoduoduo 15:35, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You are probably right about the Laura Rieff instance. I think your reading of the other one is possible, but not the most likely reading. I could understand an objection based on both being transcriptions of speech, with the comma indicating a spoken pause. Whether such a pause is a reliable indication of a nonrestrictive clause would be debatable. I understand that you must object to every possible counterexample as you have taken the extreme position that counterexamples never occur. What would constitute sufficient evidence or do you reserve the right to object to any example on whatever grounds? I still wouldn't mind seeing some contemporary authorities to support your position. DCDuring TALK 17:56, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * [comma appears only in some editions]
 * [comma appears only in some editions]

Why impugn my motives? Ad hominem attacks are not a good debating style -- they make it look like one can't think of any real arguments. I am here to make Wiktionary as good as it can possibly be, and if that means being convinced to change my perception of things, then fine.

I said in my previous post that "I'll try to find a valid example (though of course I'm skeptical that any such example exists)." I just spent two hours yesterday afternoon in the library doing nothing but that -- looking (unsuccessfully) for counterexamples to support your position. Did you spend any time trying to find statements from authorities backing up my position? No, it's not that I must object to every possible counterexample on whatever grounds -- I must object to things that are mistakenly labeled as counterexamples. What would constitute sufficient evidence? -- a counterexample that does not narrow down the meaning of the noun.

 * Faster walk-in options, that are open late and on weekends as well, are increasing

Restrictive. Not all faster walk-ins are open late; the ones that are are increasing.

 * ...to compound and divide the Materials, that are made to his Hand

Restrictive. Without the relative clause, the scope of "the Materials" is unclear.

 * This is a part of New York State where the sky draws your attention. Not the mountains, that are mostly covered in trees, but the sky forces your eyes to lift

Excellent example.

 * ''"Now I believe Ansar made many mistakes, that are not part of Islam."

A non-restrictive reading requires one to interpret it as meaning that no mistakes are part of Islam, which may possibly have been the intent, though it seems to me to be a more natural reading that Ansar made many non-Islamic mistakes, a restrictive reading.

 * ...they receive greater matching dollars for their endowed chairs, that are held by outstanding leaders....

Another excellent example.

I think the Joyce Carol Oates example in particular should be inserted in the entry, rather than just leaving the assertion unsupported. I still think it's pretty rare, though.

Do you stand by your assertion that "I understand that you must object to every possible counterexample"? Maybe an alternative way to look at it is that my raising the issue led to an unsupported assertion in the entry being given some justification. Duoduoduo 15:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry that I gave you the impression that I was impugning your motives. I was simply noting that the logic of the position you had been taking puts the burden of proof on me to find counterexamples. As even a single counterexample defeats the strong form of your position (which is one way of reading the usage note), defending such a position (strong form) requires defeating any example. But, as you know, there are always counterexamples. The counterexamples can be challenged on various grounds, including that they are simply errors or are exempt from normal practice under literary license. What I think the examples show is that "that" sometimes introduced phrases that are not restrictive, but rather descriptive. The punctuation, isolation by commas, is an indication or non-restrictiveness. To dismiss the punctuation requires a kind of inconsistency in analysis.
 * Of course, it is true that "that" is only used for restrictive clauses in careful writing and speech and in most other writing and speech and that most authorities seem to argue for the practice of using "that" only for such clauses. I didn't think any of these points are in dispute. I am happy to stipulate them explicitly. DCDuring TALK 16:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Specifically:
 * "Now I believe Ansar made many mistakes, that are not part of Islam."
 * A non-restrictive reading requires one to interpret it as meaning that no mistakes are part of Islam, which may possibly have been the intent, though it seems to me to be a more natural reading that Ansar made many non-Islamic mistakes, a restrictive reading.
 * I think your reading is idiolectic, premised on an assumed meaning of "that". Your reading might seems to imply that "Ansar made other mistakes that are a n inherent part of Islam," which seems an unlikely reading . I believe that a more conventional reading is simply to substitute "which" for "that". This same substitution seems more plausible than the restrictive-clause reading that you insist on in the other cases you object to, even the Locke case, though the editors of many editions seem to agree with the restrictive-clause reading. DCDuring TALK 16:49, 15 October 2011 (UTC) Editing changes: 17:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Conjunction
Is that a coordinating or subordinating conjuction (in the case of w:If It's Lovin' that You Want)? Or is it a preposition? Or is it neither? Ian Streeter (talk) 00:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I think it's a relative pronoun. Equinox ◑ 00:18, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Well, you've opened up a can of worms with this question. Either conjunction or pronoun. There is no difference, in loose terms, between subordinating conjunctions and relative pronouns. There is a technical distinction, argued by some, which states "that" cannot be considered a pronoun because it does no function as other pronouns do. However, it a very contentious issue among grammarians. Indeed, in the book "Relative That": A Centennial Dispute, by Johan Van Der Auwera and published by the Cambridge University Press, the arguments for and against are both laid out and tested.—GrecoBomb (talk) 21:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Archaic?
Definition 4 of conjunction 'that' is marked as archaic:

(archaic) Without any antecedent: so that.

From experience as a native English speaker in Australia, I believe that archaic is too strong a term because I do see the word in this meaning still in use occasionally. I would suggest (dated). Due to the fact it _is_ dated and uncommon, I as of yet do not have a source, I'll keep my eye out though. Davecw (talk) 04:11, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

1903 Century dictionary entry
The following is how the 1903 Century dictionary defined that. - -sche (discuss) 01:01, 19 January 2015 (UTC) that ( TH at), pron. or a.; pl. those ( TH ōz). [Also dial. thet; ‹ ME. that, thet, ‹ AS. thæt, that, the, = OS. that = OFries. thet, dat = MD. D. dat = MLG. dat, that, = OHG. MHG. G. das, the, = Icel. that, the, = Dan. det, the, = Sw. det, this, = Goth. thata, the; neut. of the demonst. pron. which came to be used as the def. art., AS. masc. se, fem, seô, neut. thæt, ME. and mod. E. in all genders, the; see further under the1. Hence that, conj. and adv.]
 * A. demonst. pron. or a.
 * 1. Used as a definitive adjective before a noun, in various senses,
 * (a) Pointing to a person or thing present or as before mentioned or supposed to be understood, or used to designate a specific thing or person emphatically, having more force than the definite article the, which may, however, in some cases be substituted for it.
 * It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment than for that city.  Mat. x. 15.
 * Touch but my lips with those fair lips of thine.
 * Shak., Venus and Adonis, 1.115.
 * David indeed, by suffering without just cause, learnt that meekness and that wisdom by adversity which made him much the fitter man to reigne.
 * Milton, Eikonoklastes, xxvii.
 * That House of Commons that he could not make do for him would do to send him to the Tower till he was sober.
 * Walpole, Letters, II. 8.
 * (b) Frequently in opposition to this, in which case it refers to one of two objects already mentioned, and often to the one more distant in place or time: frequently, however, mere contradistinction is implied: as, I will take this book, and you can take that one.
 * Of Zion it shall be said, this and that man was born in her.
 * Ps. lxxxvii. 5.
 * (c) Pointing not so much to persons and things as to their qualities, almost equivalent to such, or of such a nature, and occasionally followed by as or that as a correlative.
 * There cannot be / That vulture in you, to devour so many.
 * Shak., Macbeth, iv. 3. 74.
 * Whose love was of that dignity / That it went hand in hand even with the vow.
 * Shak., Hamlet, i. 5. 49.
 * Majesty never was vested to that degree in the Person of the King as not to be more conspicuous and more august in Parliament, as I have often shown.
 * Milton, Ans. to Salmasius.
 * 2. Used absolutely or without a noun as a demonstrative pronoun.
 * (a) To indicate a person or thing already referred to or implied, or specially pointed at or otherwise indicated, and having generally the same force and significance as when used as an adjective: as, give me that; do you see that?
 * Foretell new storms to those already spent
 * Shak., Lucrece, 1.1589
 * What springal is that? ha!  Shirley, Love Tricks, ii. 1.
 * From hence forward be that which thine own brutish silence hath made thee.
 * Milton, Church-Government, Pref., II.
 * She has that in her aspect against which it is Impossible to offend.
 * Steele, Spectator, No. 118.
 * (b) In opposition to this, or by way of distinction.
 * If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this or that.
 * Jas. iv. 15.
 * This is not fair; nor profitable that.
 * Dryden, tr. of Persius's Satires, iv. 19.
 * A hundred and fifty odd projects took possession of his brain by turns — he would do this, and that, and t'other — he would go to Rome — he would go to law — he would buy stock — . . . he would new fore-front his house, and add a new wing to make it even.
 * Sterne, Tristram Shandy, iv. 31.
 * When this and that refer to foregoing words, this, like the Latin hie or the French ceci, refers to the last mentioned, the latter, and that, like the Latin ille or the French cela, to the first mentioned, the former.
 * Self-love and reason to one end aspire, / Pain their aversion, pleasure their desire; / But greedy that its object would devour, / This taste the honey and not wound the flower.
 * Pope, Essay on Man, ii. 88.
 * In all the above cases, that, when referring to a plural noun, takes the plural form those: as, that man, those men; give me that, give me those; and so on.
 * (c) To represent a sentence or part of a sentence, or a series of sentences.
 * And when Moses heard that, he was content.  Lev. x. 20.
 * [That here stands for the whole of what Aaron had said, or the whole of the preceding verse.]
 * I'll know your business, Harry, that I will.
 * Shak., 1 Hen. IV., ii. 3. 83.
 * Upon my conscience, / The man is truly honest, and that kills him.
 * Fletcher, Valentinian, iv. 3.
 * If the Laymen will not come, whose fault is that?
 * Selden, Table-Talk, p. 37.
 * Certain or uncertain, be that upon the credit of those whom I must follow.
 * Milton, Hist. Eng., 1.
 * They say he's leam'd as well as discreet, but I'm no judge of that.
 * Steele, Lying Lover, i. 1.
 * You are a foolish bribble-brabble woman, that you are.
 * Sir R. Howard, The Committee, iii. 1.
 * Yet there still prevails, and that too amongst men who plume themselves on their liberality, no small amount of the feeling which Milton combated in his celebrated essay.
 * H. Spencer, Social Statics, p. 167.
 * That sometimes in this use precedes the sentence or clause to which it refers.
 * That be far from thee, to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked.
 * Gen. xviii. 25.
 * That here represents the clause in italics. It is used also as the substitute for an adjective: as, you allege that the man is innocent; that he is not. Similarly, it is often used to introduce an explanation of something going before: as, "religion consists in living up to those principles — that is, in acting in conformity to them."
 * (d) Emphatically, in phrases expressive of approbation, applause, or encouragement.
 * Why, thatʼs my dainty Ariel!  Shak., Tempest, v. 1. 95.
 * Thatʼs my good son!  Shak., R. and J., ii. 3. 47.
 * Hengo. I have out-brav'd Hunger. / Cor. Thatʼs my boy, my sweet boy!
 * Fletcher, Bonduca, iv. 2.
 * (e) As the antecedent of a relative: as, that which was spoken.
 * And die, unhallow'd thoughts, before you blot / With your uncleanness that which is divine.
 * Shak., Lucrece, l 193.
 * (f) By the omission of the relative, that formerly sometimes acquired the force of what or that which.
 * Thogh it happen me rehercen eft / That ye han in youre fresshe songes sayd.
 * Chaucer, Good Women, 1. 79.
 * We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen.
 * John iii. 11.
 * The good of my Countrey is that I seeke.
 * Capt. John Smith, Works, II. 179.
 * (g) With of, to avoid repetition of a preceding noun : as, his opinions and those of the others.
 * I would desire my female readers to consider that, as the term of life is short, that of beauty is much shorter.
 * Addison, Spectator, No. 89.
 * (h) With and, to avoid repetition of a preceding statement.
 * God shall help her, and that right early.  Ps. xlvi. 5.
 * And all that. See all. — That present. See present1. — That time. See time1. — To put this and that together. See put1.
 * B. rel. pron. Used for who or which. That in this use is never used with a preposition preceding it, but may be so used when the preposition is transposed to the end of the clause: thus, the man of whom I spoke, the book from which I read, the spot near which he stood, the pay for which he works; but not the man of that I spoke, etc., though one may say, the man that I spoke of, the book that I read from, the place that' he stood near, the pay that he works for, and so on. When the relative clause conveys an additional idea or statement, or is parenthetical, who and which are in modern English rather to be used than that: thus, "James, whom I saw yesterday, told me," but not "James that, etc." That more often introduces a restrictive or definitive clause, but who and which are frequently used in the same way. See who''.
 * Lord God, that lens ay lastand light, / This is a ferly fare to feele.  York Plays, p. 58.
 * Treuli, treuli, Y seye to you, the sone may not of hym silf do ony thing, but that thing that he seeth the fadir doynge.  Wyclif, John v. 19.
 * This holi child seynt Johun, / That baptisid oure lord in Jordon / With ful deuout & good deuocioun.
 * Hymns to Virgin, etc. (E. E. T. S.), p. 56.
 * And Guthlake, that was King of Denmarke then, / Provided with a navie mee forlead.
 * Mir. for Mags., 1.184.
 * If I have aught / That may content thee, take it, and begone.
 * Beau. and Fl., Maid's Tragedy, v. 4.
 * He that was your conduct / From Milan.  Shirley, Grateful Servant, i. 2.
 * You shall come with me to Tower Hill, and see Mrs. Quilp that is, directly.
 * Dickens, Old Curiosity Shop, vi.
 * In the following extract that, who, and which are used without any perceptible difference.
 * Sometime like apes, that mow and chatter at me
 * And after bite me, then like hedgehogs, which
 * Lie tumbling in my barefoot way and mount
 * Their pricks at my footfall, sometime am I
 * All wound with adders, who with cloven tongues
 * Do hiss me into maduess.  Shak., Tempest, ii. 2. 10.
 * With the use of that as a relative are to be classed those cases in which it is used as a correlative to so or such.
 * Who's so gross, / That seeth not this palpable device?
 * Shak., Rich. III., III. 6. 11.
 * Who so firm that cannot he seduced?
 * Shak., J. C., i. 2. 316.
 * Such allow'd infirmities that honesty / Is never free of.
 * Shak., W. T., i 2. 263.
 * That as a demonstrative and that as a relative pronoun sometimes occur close together, but this use is now hardly approved.
 * That that is determined shall be done.  Dan. xi. 36.
 * That that is is. &nsp; Shak., T. N., iv. 2. 17.
 * But for the practical part, it is that that makes an angler: it is diligence, and observation, and patience, and an ambition to be the best in the art, that must do it.
 * I. Walton, Complete Angler, p. 191.
 * Frequently used in Chaucer for the definite article, before one or other, usually when the two words are put in contrast.
 * That on me hette, that othir dede me colde.
 * Chaucer, Parliament of Fowls, 1. 145.
 * That . . . he† = who; that ... his (or her)† = whose; that . . . him† = whom; that . . . they† = who; which that† = whom.
 * My hertes Ioie, all myn hole plesaunce,
 * Whiche that y same, and schall do faithfully
 * With treue Entente.
 * Political Poems, etc. (ed. Furnivall), p. 40.
 * A Knight ther was, and that a worthy man.
 * That fro the tyme that he first bigan
 * To ryden out, he loved chivalrye.
 * Chaucer, Gen. Prol. to C. T., l. 44.
 * Now fele I wel the goodnesse of this wyf,
 * That bothe after her deeth and in her lyf
 * Her grete bountee doubleth her renoun.
 * Chaucer, Good Women, I. 521.
 * This man to you may falsly been accused,
 * That as by right 'him'' oghte been excused.
 * Chaucer, Good Women, 1. 351.
 * (That came in during the twelfth century to supply the place of the indeclinable relative the, and in the fourteenth century it is the ordinary relative. In the sixteenth century, which often supplies its place; in the seventeenth century, who replaces it. About Addison's time, that had again come into fashion, and had almost driven which and who out of use.
 * Morris, Historical Outlines of Eng. Accidence, p. 132.)

that ( TH at), conj. [‹ ME. that, thet, ‹ AS. that = D. dat = OHG. MHG. daz, G. dass = Goth. thata, that; orig. the neut. pron. or adj. that used practically as a def. article qualifying the whole sentence: see that, pron.]
 * 1. Introducing a reason: in that; because.
 * Thus I speak, not that I would have it so; but to your shame.
 * Latimer, Sermon of the Plough.
 * Not that I loved Caesar less, but that I loved Rome more.
 * Shak., J. C, iii. 2. 23.
 * Streams of grief / That I have wrong'd thee, and as much of Joy / That I repent it, issue from mine eyes.
 * Beau, and Fl., Philaster, v. 5.
 * It is not that I love you less / Than when before your feet I lay.
 * Waller, The Self-Banished.
 * Weep not that the world changes.  Bryant, Mutation.
 * 2. Introducing an object or final end or purpose: equivalent to the phrases in order that, for the purpose that, to the effect that.
 * Treat it kindly, that it may / Wish at least with us to stay.
 * Cowley, The Epicure, 1. 9.
 * The life-blood of the slain / Poured out where thousands die that one may reign.
 * Bryant, Christmas in 1875.
 * 3. Introducing a result or consequence.
 * The buerne, with his bare sword, bere hym to dethe, / That he felle of his fole flat to the ground!
 * Destruction of Troy (E. E. T. S.), 1. 6451.
 * I neuer heard the olde song of Percy and Duglas that I found not my heart mooued more then with a Trumpet.
 * Sir P. Sidney, Apol. for Poetrie.
 * Learning hath that wonderfull power in it selfe that it can soften and temper the most Sterne and savage nature.
 * Spenser, State of Ireland.
 * Is cheating grown so common among men, / And thrives so well here, that the gods endeavour / To practise it above?
 * Beau. and Fl., Thierry and Theodoret, iv. 2.
 * What have I done / Dishonestly in my whole life, name it, / That you should put so base a business to me?
 * Beau. and Fl., King and No King, III. 8.
 * I knew him to be so honest a man that I could not reject his proposal.
 * Swift, Gulliver's Travels, iii. 1.
 * 4. Introducing a clause as the subject or object of the principal verb, or as a necessary complement to a statement made.
 * 'Tis a causeless fantasy, / And childish error, that they are afraid.
 * Shak., Venus and Adonis, 1. 898.
 * You gave consent that, to defeat my brother, I should take any course.
 * Fletcher, Spanish Curate, iv. 1.
 * This is most certain, that the king was ever friendly to the Irish Papists.
 * Milton, Eikonoklastes, xii.
 * The Naragansett men told us after that thirteen of the Pequods were killed, and forty wounded.
 * Winthrop, Hist. New England, I. 233.
 * I have shewed before that a mere possibility to the contrary can by no means hinder a thing from being highly credible.
 * Bp. Wilkins.
 * It is a very common expression that such a one is very good-natured, but very passionate.
 * Steele, Spectator, No. 438.
 * The current opinion prevails that the study of Greek and Latin is loss of time.
 * Swift, Modern Education.
 * 5. Seeing; since; inasmuch as.
 * There is something in the wind, that we cannot get in.
 * Shak., C. of E., iii. i. 69.
 * Where is my father, that you come without him?
 * Beau. and Fl., Laws of Candy, ii. 1.
 * 6. Formerly often used after a preposition, introducing a noun-clause as the object of the preposition: as, before that he came, after that they had gone, etc., where at present the that is omitted and the preposition has become a conjunction; also, by mistaken analogy with such cases, that was occasionally added after real conjunctions, as when that, where that.
 * Go, litil bill, and say thoue were with me / This same day at myne vp-Rysainge, / Where that y be-sought god of merci / Tho to haue my souerein in his kepeing.
 * Political Poems, etc. (ed. Furnivall), p. 40.
 * After that things are set in order here, / We'll follow them.
 * Shak., 1 Hen. VI., ii. 2. 32.
 * Take my soul . . . / Before that England give the French the foil.
 * Shak., 1 Hen. VI., v. 3. 23.
 * What would you with her if that I be she?
 * Shak., T. G. of V., iv. 4. 115.
 * Since that my case is past the help of law.
 * Shak., Lucrece, 1. 1022.
 * When that mine eye is famish'd for a look.
 * Shak., Sonnets, xlvii.
 * 7. Sometimes used in place of another conjunction, in repetition. [A Gallicism.]
 * Albeit Nature doth now and then . . . commit some errors, and that sometimes the things shee formeth haue too much, and sometimes too little, yet deliuereth she nothing broken or disseuered.
 * Verstegan, Restitution of Decayed Intelligence (ed. 1628), p. 98.
 * 8. Used elliptically to introduce a sentence or clause expressive of surprise, indignation, or some kindred emotion.
 * That a brother should / Be so perfidious!
 * Shak., Tempest, i. 2. 67.
 * O God, that men should put an enemy in their mouths to steal away their brains!
 * Shak., Othello, ii. 3. 291.
 * 9. Used as an optative particle, or to introduce a phrase expressing a wish: would that: usually with O!
 * O, that you bore / The mind that I do!
 * Shak., Tempest, II. 1. 207.
 * This was the very first suit at law that ever I had with any creature, and O that it might be the last!
 * Evelyn, Diary, May 26, 1671.
 * For that1. See for. — In that. See in1. — Now that. See now. — So that. See so1. — Though that1. See though.

that ( TH at), adv. [‹ that, pron. or a.; abbr. of such phrases as to that extent, to that degree.]
 * To that extent; to that degree; to such a degree; so: as, I did not go that far; I did not care that much about it: the comparison being with something previously said or implied, as in the preceding examples: used colloquially to express emphasis. A similar Scotch uso of the word, following a negative, corresponds to the Latin ita (as in Cicero's non ita multi): as, no that bad; nae that far awa'.
 * Ye think my muse nae that ill-faurd.
 * Skinner, Misc. Poetry, p. 109. (Jamieson.)
 * This was carried with that little noise that for a good space the vigilant Bishop was not awak'd with it.
 * Bp. Hacket, Abp. Williams, ii. 67. (Davies.)
 * Death! To die! I owe that much / To what, at least, I was.
 * Browning, Paracelsus, iv.
 * Women were there, . . . because Mr. Elsmere had been "that good" to them that anything they could do to oblige him "they would, and welcome."
 * Mrs. Humphry Ward, Robert Elsmere, xlix.

Divergence between conjunction and all other roles?
Hello. In my dialect "that" as a conjunction is *always* pronounced as ðɛt even when unstressed, and "that" in all other usages is always pronounced as "ðæt" indicated on this page. I'm American, but I don't know what particular regions make this distinction persistently, which makes me hesitant to add the pronunciation and note.

My dialect is a mix of North-Western New England according to http://aschmann.net/AmEng/ with Southwestern New England according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_England_English.

1) Should this page indicate anything like this?

2) If it does, should the distinction be noted as regional, or does it happen in other places as well?

Funny note, just for conversation's sake. This bothers me from time to time because it makes it difficult for me to write unambiguously to ESLs with incomplete intuitive grasps on English grammar, so I make the joke that "I wish it were spelled as 'thet' when I use it like this" to help them remember that it can use used to nest clauses.

74.67.16.190 18:00, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

with that
Following with this thereupon: She said, "I quit!, and with that she left.'' https://www.wordreference.com/definition/that --Backinstadiums (talk) 10:47, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Possible, but I disagree that such entries are necessary. It's just like "she left with a groan" or "with a smile", but using "that" in its normal way to substitute for a named thing. Equinox ◑ 19:52, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

zat
Is this pronunciation the one heard in the following sentences? where does /z/ come from?

'Does that feel o.k., comfortable?' at 09:02; 'Does that sound good?' at 01:03 --Backinstadiums (talk) 00:32, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Two words are blended together: does that -> "duzzat" (not a real spelling). Equinox ◑ 18:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 * what phonological process deletes/geminates /z/ before /ð/? --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:51, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

 * I don't know. It's a blend. I merge words if I speak sloppily and I don't use "phonological processes", I just speak sloppily. This isn't some kind of clever evolution of words. It's just sloppy talk. Equinox ◑ 20:06, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Not directly answering your specific question, but perhaps something akin to the derivation of wazzup? —DIV (49.186.86.22 11:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC))

if
Is the meaning used in a sentence such as the following added? I don't know that I have much else of value --Backinstadiums (talk) 00:11, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

['t]
OED: 't dial. shortened form of that (rel. pron. or conj.) --Backinstadiums (talk) 02:01, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

“will he come?” — “that he will!”
“will he come?” — “that he will!” Here it substitutes just the core verb --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:45, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

insofar as
7.b. According to what; insofar as: He never knew her, that I know of. https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=that --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:06, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

in reference to groups (where "who" would sound peculiar)
That also occurs idiomatically in reference to groups (where who would sound peculiar), as in "[She] had two sons, and settled into raising a family that soon included twin daughters" --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:01, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Family that is vs family who are.jpg --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:07, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

"There was that in his face..."
We don't cover this (dated) kind of thing:

 * 1902, John Buchan, The Outgoing of the Tide
 * 'Bide here,' he says, 'and boil the wine till I return. This is a ploy of my own on which no man follows me.' And there was that in his face, as he spoke, which chilled the wildest, and left them well content to keep to the good claret and the saft seat, and let the daft laird go his own ways.

Where can we include it? Under the pronoun heading somewhere? Equinox ◑ 22:58, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Concessive: as/though
Concessively in very formal expressions such as He did not give things away, rich that he was https://www.eltconcourse.com/training/inservice/phrases_clauses_sentences/subordination.html JMGN (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

 * I think that is ungrammatical. It should be "rich as he was". Equinox ◑ 17:32, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

EN conjunction: Immediately that ...
I am having trouble reconciling whether the wording "Immediately that ..." is good/correct English (albeit possibly dated), and — if so — which sense (if any) it matches in the entry.

Made up examples: And I somehow feel that that is optional in the above examples.
 * "Immediately that the sun came out I began to burn."
 * "Immediately that the train arrived, they said their goodbyes."

Real quotations extracted from the British Hansard corpus
 * "Immediately that the peace of Tilsit placed his army at the disposal of the French emperor, he marched troops into all the ports of the continent, [...]" (1812)
 * "And had the inequality, vexation, and fraud vanished immediately that the noble Lord took possession of the Treasury benches?" (1815)
 * "a writ of habeas corpus was issued by Chief Justice Drummond, and immediately that the Governor General heard of that he telegraphed to the Colonial Office" (1867)
 * "Immediately that the last outbreak occurred they made inquiries" (1881)
 * "Immediately that the final payments have been made, I shall be prepared to lay a statement on the Table of the House" (1890)
 * "Immediately that the distress became apparent my right hon[.] Friend addressed a Circular" (1893)
 * "the boats shall, [...], start on their voyage immediately that the mails are put on board" (1918)
 * "the Tuberculosis Order was issued by the Board of Agriculture to come into operation immediately that the Milk and Dairies Act came into operation" (1920)

After finding those quotations I feel more assured that it is (or was) good English. But still having difficulty to map it to any of the existing definitions in the entry.

—DIV (49.186.86.22 11:11, 23 November 2023 (UTC))

title: Talk:that


text:
MediaWiki:Randompagebylanguage-url

Wiktionary:Random page

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: MediaWiki:Randompagebylanguage-url


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MediaWiki:Randompagebylanguage

(by language)

title: MediaWiki:Randompagebylanguage


text:
Wiktionary talk:Random page

Overview
There are various methods of getting a random page in Wiktionary:
 * Using the Mediawiki native function for getting a random page. However, the set of entries from which one is chosen ranges over all the languages. The native function: Special:Random.
 * Using a dedicated function at the toolserver, per language. See the links per language in this project page; for instance: . Accessible using.
 * Using the native function constrained to a namespace, like in Special:Random/Wikisaurus.
 * Using the bookmarklet posted in one of the sections below to pick a random page from a category.

"Excepting recent changes, the text on that site appears below."
Do we really need a copy of the text here?—msh210 ℠  19:45, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Note that the text here has been unchanged since, at least, June of 2007, but is not the same as the one on the Web site. If no one objects pretty soon, I'll remove the text from here.—msh210 ℠  19:49, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Done.—msh210 ℠  07:43, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

Links to random functions don't work. FWIW I am looking for a function that will return xml with the random word and a definition.

Bookmarklet to pick a random element of a category
The following bookmarklet will load a random entry from a category. If used on a category page, it uses that category; otherwise it uses the first category that the current page is in.

 * '' javascript:void((function {function rltr(n) { if (n>0) {return 'ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz'[Math.floor(Math.random*52)]+rltr(n-1);} else {return ""}; }; function prc { if (req.readyState==4 && req.status==200) { var q=req.responseXML.documentElement.getElementsByTagName("cm"); document.location="/wiki/"+q[0].getAttribute("title"); } }; req=new XMLHttpRequest; req.onreadystatechange=prc; req.open("GET", document.location.protocol + "//"+document.location.host + "/w/api.php?action=query&list=categorymembers&cmtitle=" + ((document.location.pathname.indexOf("Category") !=-1 ? document.location : document.getElementById("catlinks").firstChild.childNodes[2].firstChild).pathname.replace("/wiki/","")) + "&cmstartsortkey=" + rltr(3) + "&cmlimit=1&format=xml",true); req.send(null)}))

''

Enjoy! (and please copy it to the various places it should be listed...) JesseW 22:16, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Inserting direct links from HT's page
Would anyone have a problem with inserting the links from Hippietrail's page http://toolserver.org/~hippietrail/randompage.fcgi?langs direction onto the project page? Or is it too experimental? It looks like that page is generated after every dump (is it created dynamically on each page load?). In case there's weird things in the current version, we could just hard-code random page links for the known languages. We could put the top40 at the top, and alphabetize the rest. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 03:48, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

 * You can add all the random-per-language links you want.
 * Or you could just go to WT:PREFS and switch on "For each language section add interwiki and random links." — hippietrail 00:29, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

 * I am also intrested in giving a direct link to a single language that is marathi.Presently it does not seem to work. this would be usefull fuction to lot of people with Marathi Language background.
 * I suppose all other people who want to study various languages will also benefit.
 * A wikipedian has given a Java script code, I would be interested to know exactly how to use where to use and as second openion to confirm if that code is safe enough security point of view.
 * Mahitgar 05:26, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't Work
No matter how much I try to use any of the links on here, it belches out a 500 error. I have tried it dozens of times, and it's only ever worked twice. The first time, I was shocked because it had been months since I first encountered the problem and it had, minutes earlier, failed. Each time, it gave me this information: Request host: toolserver.org Request path: GET	 /~hippietrail/randompage.fcgi 129.171.233.77 01:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC) Scratch that, it randomly works now, just not for the language I want (mandarin) :/

 * Not sure that we can do anything about this. Is there a contact point for toolserver.org? Equinox ◑ 01:25, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

 * I've fixed this at last. In the future file a bug report on Jira or Bugzilla so that us Wiktionary dev types can track issues. — hippietrail 15:29, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

doesnt work
79.183.15.191 15:25, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

WFM
This has always and currently works for me, so I'm going to remove the notice that it doesn't work. If it doesn't work, it's a client-side issue. TortoiseWrath (talk) 02:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
 * I'd suggest checking, again. I'm with the others (see below).  --Jackson Peebles (talk) 04:59, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

"403: User account expired"
The random page by languagae does not work anymore... :( Jagwar (talk) 20:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Same here.95.91.250.139 19:45, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Same. --Jackson Peebles (talk) 05:01, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary is aware. Don't hold your breath for it to be fixed, though. I don't know how to fix it, and the people who might know how to fix it are for the most part very busy and/or incommunicado in countries with little internet access. :/ - -sche (discuss) 06:10, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Sidebar. Just remove the link. DTLHS (talk) 06:12, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but that only stops people from clicking on it and being disappointed that it doesn't work...I'd rather make it work again.
 * PS, all of this goes to show that we need to re-sysop you so that you can fix these things yourself. :b - -sche (discuss) 06:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Criteria for inclusion on list of languages?
What are the criteria for including languages in the list? Is there for example a threshold of a certain number of entries in a language for it to be added? TIA.--A12n (talk) 11:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Archived feedback: July 2015
Hi. When using the RandomInCategory operation for some languages, especially Georgian, the system chooses a random word out of maybe 20-30 words in total instead of 13,000. It's doesn't choose a "random word" at all. --176.74.103.118 14:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * I guess it is because of T27931. Nothing we can do. — Keφr 14:54, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It's a shame. Seemed like a very useful feature. --176.74.103.118 15:15, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
 * It was previously implemented as a Toolserver service, but the Toolserver was shut down (and the service was never properly maintained anyway), so I switched it to use Special:RandomInCategory. You can prod the developers to make a better randomiser, but I would not count on much. — Keφr 15:20, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Definitions in other languages?
Links such as https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/Japanese_lemmas#Japanese will take you to a random Japanese word definition, in English. However, https://ja.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:RandomInCategory/Japanese_lemmas#Japanese will not take you to a random Japanese word defined in Japanese.

How do we get definitions in other languages?
 * Naturally, "Japanese lemmas" is not a category on Japanese Wiktionary, and the equivalent is called something else there. — surjection ⟨?⟩ 15:04, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Request for edit: Tagalog
I'd like to request for the Tagalog language to be added to the list. Thank you.

Ganmatthew (talk) 15:43, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

 * @Ganmatthew: ✅. —Svārtava (t/u) • 15:46, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

title: Wiktionary talk:Random page


text:
vzhůru nohama

Adverb

 * 1) upside down

title: vzhůru nohama


text: ratoncitos

title: ratoncitos


text:
pre-shared key

Noun

 * 1) A method used to protect network traffic in WPA (Wi-Fi Protected Access) networks by requiring that all connected devices use the same manually entered password.

title: pre-shared key


text:
TKIP

Proper noun

 * : a wireless security encryption mechanism used in some protected Wi-Fi networks.

title: TKIP


text:
kilinä

Etymology 1
From.

Noun

 * 1) A jingle sound of metal or glass clattering against itself.

Etymology
From. Akin to 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) jingle

title: kilinä


text:
helinä

Noun

 * 1) jingle sound of metal or glass clattering against itself

Usage notes

 * is a more melodic and less irritating sound than . That's probably the reason why it is also used as a female given name, but isn't.

title: helinä


text:
stipular

Adjective

 * 1)  Of, relating to, or constituting a stipule.

Translations

 * Italian:
 * Spanish:

title: stipular


text: Category:Shan verbs

title: Category:Shan verbs


text:
User:Visviva/Time/20081215

 * 1) antiwhaling
 * 2) brownface
 * 3) cyberchondriacs
 * 4) dryest
 * 5) geocoded
 * 6) geocoding
 * 7) grippingly
 * 8) nonpotable
 * 9) nonrechargeable
 * 10) nonstops
 * 11) perspectiveless
 * 12) provokingness
 * 13) rewatchable
 * 14) rivetingly
 * 15) seatback
 * 16) storeworker
 * 17) tootled
 * 18) undeluded
 * 19) viddies

title: User:Visviva/Time/20081215


text: dryest

title: dryest


text: sexualizes

title: sexualizes


text: sexualizing

title: sexualizing


text:
trayless

Adjective

 * 1) Without a tray
 * The cafeteria is trayless this year, in an effort to save water.

title: trayless


text:
helmetless

Adjective

 * 1) Without a helmet
 * The helmetless rider was killed in the crash.

title: helmetless


text:
postelection

Adjective

 * 1) Occurring after an election.
 * The postelection television coverage was canceled.

title: postelection


text:
erróneo

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) erroneous, incorrect

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1)  erroneous; incorrect containing an error

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) erroneous
 * 2) fallacious

title: erróneo


text: erróneos

title: erróneos


text:
around the world

Prepositional phrase

 * 1) Around Earth from east to west, or west to east, thus crossing all meridians.
 * He sailed around the world.
 * 1) In a large proportion of Earth; in various parts of Earth.

Noun

 * 1) A particular trick move with a yo-yo.

title: around the world


text:
User talk:Burndive

Welcome!
Hello, and welcome to Wiktionary. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
 * How to edit a page is a concise list of technical guidelines to the wiki format we use here: how to, for example, make text boldfaced or make a hyperlink. The Wiktionary tutorial is a more wordy, multi-page document that helps you through those same formatting issues, and also touches on a couple of other issues relevant to editing.
 * The document What Wiktionary is not may be of interest. In particular, if you've edited Wikipedia in the past, you should note that Wiktionary is not an encyclopedia and does not have Wikipedia-style page titles.
 * How to start a new page is a technical guide to, well, how to start a new page. But you'll also want to look at our guidelines for how to format an entry (what goes where) and our criteria for inclusion (what can be included), which are our two main policy documents. (You can get a feel for how to format an entry by looking at existing entries.)
 * The Sandbox is a safe place for testing markup.
 * The FAQ has, of course, some frequently (and some infrequently) asked questions, and their answers.

I hope you enjoy editing here! By the way, you can sign your comments on talk (discussion) pages using four tildes, like this:, which automatically produces your name (or IP number if you're not signed in) and the current date and time. If you have any questions, then see the help pages, add a question to one of the discussion rooms or ask me on my talk page.—msh210 ℠  20:34, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:Burndive


text:
geocode

Verb

 * 1) To find the latitude and longitude coordinates of an address.
 * I geocode my customers' addresses to provide them with more relevant promotional material.

Related terms

 * geocodable
 * geocodify

Translations

 * French:
 * Vietnamese: mã hóa địa lý, mã hoá địa lý, mã hoá địa lí

Noun

 * 1) A code made up of latitude and longitude, indicating a geographical location.

title: geocode


text: geocodes

title: geocodes


text:
User talk:Luigi Tramontana

Welcome!
Hello, and welcome to Wiktionary. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
 * How to edit a page is a concise list of technical guidelines to the wiki format we use here: how to, for example, make text boldfaced or make a hyperlink. The Wiktionary tutorial is a more wordy, multi-page document that helps you through those same formatting issues, and also touches on a couple of other issues relevant to editing.
 * The document What Wiktionary is not may be of interest. In particular, if you've edited Wikipedia in the past, you should note that Wiktionary is not an encyclopedia and does not have Wikipedia-style page titles.
 * How to start a new page is a technical guide to, well, how to start a new page. But you'll also want to look at our guidelines for how to format an entry (what goes where) and our criteria for inclusion (what can be included), which are our two main policy documents. (You can get a feel for how to format an entry by looking at existing entries.)
 * The Sandbox is a safe place for testing markup.
 * The FAQ has, of course, some frequently (and some infrequently) asked questions, and their answers.

I hope you enjoy editing here! By the way, you can sign your comments on talk (discussion) pages using four tildes, like this:, which automatically produces your name (or IP number if you're not signed in) and the current date and time. If you have any questions, then see the help pages, add a question to one of the discussion rooms or ask me on my talk page.

The entry you created seems to have been a protologism and has been deleted. If you are sure that it is a real word, please provide evidence of this word being used in durably archived media (mainly printed books, and usenet groups) as required by our inclusion criteria. For a term to be included, it must be used by at least three different authors, spaced in time by at least three years, and the authors must not explain the word's meaning. If you can find any such quotations, please add them to .—msh210  ℠  20:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:Luigi Tramontana


text:
geocoded

Adjective

 * 1) identified by a geocode

title: geocoded


text: geocoding

title: geocoding


text:
antiwhaling

Adjective

 * 1) Against the practice of whaling (hunting of whales).
 * The antiwhaling protest was a success.

title: antiwhaling


text:
fotográfico

Adjective

 * 1) photographic

Adjective

 * 1)   photographic pertaining to photographs or photography
 * 2)   photographic able to remember images in detail

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) photographic

title: fotográfico


text: fotográficos

title: fotográficos


text:
User talk:Rajah

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title: User talk:Rajah


text:
cietrzew

Etymology
, from, from , from , from. Cognate to 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) grouse of the genus, especially the black grouse

title: cietrzew


text:
User talk:Elvis001

Wiktionary is a dictionary, we do not include information about people. Conrad.Irwin 21:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Conrad.Irwin 21:18, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:Elvis001


text: colaatje

title: colaatje


text: cola's

title: cola's


text:
⏏

Description
A triangle pointing upwards, located above a horizontal line.


text:
molestatore

Noun

 * 1) molester

title: molestatore


text: dzsungelek

title: dzsungelek


text: monetizzando

title: monetizzando


text: monetizzante

title: monetizzante


text: monetizzato

title: monetizzato


text: monetizzati

title: monetizzati


text:
monetizzare

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to monetize

title: monetizzare


text: monetizzata

title: monetizzata


text: monetizzo

title: monetizzo


text: monetizzi

title: monetizzi


text: monetizza

title: monetizza


text: monetizziamo

title: monetizziamo


text: monetizzate

title: monetizzate


text: monetizzano

title: monetizzano


text: monetizzavo

title: monetizzavo


text: monetizzavi

title: monetizzavi


text: monetizzava

title: monetizzava


text: monetizzavamo

title: monetizzavamo


text: monetizzavate

title: monetizzavate


text: monetizzavano

title: monetizzavano


text: monetizzai

title: monetizzai


text: monetizzasti

title: monetizzasti


text: monetizzò

title: monetizzò


text: monetizzammo

title: monetizzammo


text: monetizzaste

title: monetizzaste


text: monetizzarono

title: monetizzarono


text: monetizzerò

title: monetizzerò


text: monetizzerai

title: monetizzerai


text: monetizzerà

title: monetizzerà


text: monetizzeremo

title: monetizzeremo


text: monetizzerete

title: monetizzerete


text: monetizzeranno

title: monetizzeranno


text: monetizzerei

title: monetizzerei


text: monetizzeresti

title: monetizzeresti


text: monetizzerebbe

title: monetizzerebbe


text: monetizzeremmo

title: monetizzeremmo


text: monetizzereste

title: monetizzereste


text: monetizzerebbero

title: monetizzerebbero


text: monetizziate

title: monetizziate


text: monetizzino

title: monetizzino


text: monetizzassi

title: monetizzassi


text: monetizzasse

title: monetizzasse


text: monetizzassimo

title: monetizzassimo


text: monetizzassero

title: monetizzassero


text:
User talk:98.24.83.240

--EncycloPetey 22:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:98.24.83.240


text:
monocorde

Etymology
, itself borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1)  monochord

Adjective

 * 1) monotonous

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) monotonous (unvarying in tone)

Adjective

 * 1) monotonous

title: monocorde


text: dzsámik

title: dzsámik


text:
User talk:ImperfectlyInformed

autistic
The words autism and autistic are not the same. One is a noun, while the other is an adjective. They do not have the same meaning. --EncycloPetey 22:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm a bit new to this, but the new definition was sourced directly to a dictionary:

 * 1) A tendency to view life in terms of one's own needs and desires.

-- (added a couple years later)
 * I added the definition under the adjective, so I don't follow your argument. ImperfectlyInformed 19:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

WP vs WT
One of the important differences between WP and WT is that in a given language, say English, there are only about a dozen publishers of reliable definitions. All of them are references against which our definitions can be checked. I recommend OneLook.com as a gateway thereto. It is very easy for contributors to COPYVIO when using another dictionary. It is hard to imagine that copying a definition from a dictionary into another dictionary would be deemed "fair use".

OTOH, a definition from a non-dictionary source is often prescriptive, rather than reflecting actual use. We strive to be a real descriptive dictionary. That means that we place much more credence in citations of usage than a reference to a dictionary or other authority that might be exactly what WP wants.

We don't seem to know how to make this evident and justified in our documentation such as it is. DCDuring TALK 19:42, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't really agree with this legal reasoning. The fact is that many of these definitions date back for a very long time period, and the copyright over them is dubious. I'm skeptical that someone can copyright the actual definition of a word in the language. Dictionaries are more for convenience. In any case, I'm guessing you're referring to the definition of autistic above. I do want to restore the other definition since I don't we should be limiting our definitions to only the most common and modern definitions. For example, the definition on gay would be remiss if it did not have the (dated) definitions of happy, joyful, festive. Similarly, I want to restore the (dated) but still relevant meaning of autistic as "a tendency to view life in terms of one's own needs and desires", which is the definition in . How would I do that?

 * Incidentally, is EncycloPetey a friend of yours? When he reverted my addition, he marked the edit minor . This is certainly not consistent with Help:Minor_edit and seems rather unfriendly, as it suggests my edit is vandalism or something. Certainly not the way I would expect a long-term contributor and administrator to treat a newbie. ImperfectlyInformed 19:31, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

 * See also Help:Interacting with humans - the revert button marks things as minor (I'm not sure if there's a way to override that). While the definition of a word is not copyrightable (per se), it is possible that the wording of a definition is. Additionally, a large number of words definitions taken as a unit, such as a dictionary, may become copyrightable by virtue of the nuances of the wording of the definitions showing creative effort. (Or something like that anyway). It's best not to copy, just in case. If you want to restore the definition, you may have to find a citation of the word actually being used - other dictionaries do make mistakes (see dord), and (particularly the online ones) tend to copy each other mercilessly, so finding independent proof is important. Conrad.Irwin 19:39, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the response. I've been on Wikipedia for a while and reverting there (using the undo button) has never marked edits on minor, nor does the undo button mark edits as minor on here. On Wikipedia, rollback is only for vandalism. So I'm not sure why EncycloPetey is marking reverts of good-faith edits as minor. It certainly doesn't seem good and it's not an accepted practice on Wikipedia. As far as an example, see eg this or most of these. ImperfectlyInformed 00:06, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

title: User talk:ImperfectlyInformed


text: mecsetek

title: mecsetek


text:
monopartitismo

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a political system based on a single political party

title: monopartitismo


text: müezzinek

title: müezzinek


text:
moralizzazione

Noun

 * 1) moralization

title: moralizzazione


text:
muisjes

Noun

 * 1) Sprinkles of aniseed covered with sugar, commonly used as sandwich topping in the Netherlands.
 * 1) Sprinkles of aniseed covered with sugar, commonly used as sandwich topping in the Netherlands.

title: muisjes


text: dzsemek

title: dzsemek


text:
Talk:불

cf. Proto-Indo-European *perjos, *paewr-, "fire"? 96.248.16.204 22:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:불


text: dzsesszek

title: dzsesszek


text:
ear dagger

Noun

 * 1) A medieval dagger with a distinctive ear-shaped pommel

title: ear dagger


text: dzsihádok

title: dzsihádok


text:
parrying dagger

Noun

 * 1) A medieval dagger usually wielded with the left hand. It was used primarily for parrying and defense, while the other hand held a longer, single handed sword like a rapier. Also known as a main gauche.

title: parrying dagger


text:
wireless network

Noun

 * 1)  Devices connected to a network using a centralized wireless access point (WAP).
 * 1)  Devices connected to a network using a centralized wireless access point (WAP).

Hyponyms

 * network, Wi-Fi

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 無線網絡
 * French: réseau sans fil
 * German: Drahtlosnetzwerk
 * Japanese: ワイヤレスネットワーク, 無線ネットワーク
 * Russian: беспро́водна́я сеть
 * Tagalog: awangkawad na kabalagan, walang-kawad na kabalagan

title: wireless network


text: bit rate

title: bit rate


text: dzsörzék

title: dzsörzék


text: dzsúdók

title: dzsúdók


text:
ਤੁਫਾਨ

Etymology
, from. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) hurricane, typhoon.
 * 2) storm

title: ਤੁਫਾਨ


text: fridzsiderek

title: fridzsiderek


text:
Talk:logical

examples of logical
 * What are you talking about? Internoob 23:51, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:logical


text: lándzsák

title: lándzsák


text: dárdák

title: dárdák


text: maharadzsák

title: maharadzsák


text: mandzsetták

title: mandzsetták


text:
douching

Noun

 * 1) A washing or irrigation with a douche.

title: douching


text: douched

title: douched


text:
אתגר

Noun

 * 1) a challenge

title: אתגר


text:
User talk:211.27.17.117

- Kakav bogovetni travnik, jesi ikad čuo tu riječ (osim kao naziv naselja)? Nemoj dodavati izmišljene riječi. --Ivan Štambuk 00:18, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Samo one koje postoje u recniku gde ne pise da je pokrajinska, zastarela, novokovanica itd vec samo sinonim za travnjak. Vi hrvati volite da pravite reforme i izmisljotine od jezika ali to u srpskom ima reda i pravila pa tek tako ne izbacujemo svoje reci i izmisljamo pantolodrzace i cetvoronozna vunena hodala. A ako nisi kompetenatan da dopunjujes srpski recnik na wiktionary-u (kao sto to i nisi i ne radis vec cekas da "upecas" mene sa nekom greskom [samo u tvojim ocima!] koje nema da bi zadovoljio svoje komplekse nize vrednosti) onda dopunjuj samo hrvatski a srpski ostavi srbima da dopunjuju, a ako imas nekih nedoumica o srpskom recniku (na wiktionary-u) ili kontaktuj mene ili se raspitaj po nekom srpskom recniku - u suprotnom se ne mesaj. Zbogom.

 * Ajde ne laprdaj. Što se tiče "izmišljanja riječi" - ama baš svaka riječ ikad porabljena je u jednoj točki vremena i prostora izmišljena od strane nekoga i otuda raspršena. Nema baš nikakve razlike između širenja leksičkih i fonetskih izoglosa. Čak i one naslijeđene iz prajezika su jednom morale biti "izmišljene". Kovanje novih riječi na slavenskim korijenima je jedno od suština hrvatskog jezičnog purizma koje ima pisanu tradiciju bar 6 stoljeća. Čak i tekstovi starocrkvenoslavenskog kanona imaju skoro 100-ak čistih kalkova iz starogrčkog (dakle neologizama)—o učenim posuđenicama da i ne govorimo. Tvoj "narodni" srpski fabriciran od strane polupismenog opančara iz hrv. rječnika ima na tisuće kroatizama koji su čiste novokovanice, i to najobičnije riječi kao što su sladoled, kišobran ili vodovod—sve odreda posuđenice iz hrvatskog u srpski. Da ne govorim o ekskluzivnim "srbizmima" danas poput pozorište koje su skovali hrvatski filolozi prije 4 stoljeća. To što si ti neuk po tom pitanju je tvoj problem i molim te ne projiciraj svoje ideološke frustracije na druge jer nemaš pojma o čemu trkeljaš.
 * Meni se iskreno čisto jebe za srprski leksik ovdje na wiktionaryju, nit ga dopunjujem nit ispravljam (osim što dodajem etimologije iz praslavenskog kao i svim ostalim slav. leksemima), no kad vidim maloumne idiote poput tebe koji 1) miču posve vrijedeće ideologije iz bolesnih nacionalistiških pobuda (sram te svih tih silnih posuđenica iz otomanskog, jelte?) 2) dodaju izmišljene riječi poput svetlokaz, jajinjak ili ovaj travnik smuči mi se i moram reagirati. Vidiš, jedna od dužnosti admina ovdje jest patrolirati nepatrolirane nedavne promjene a tvoje smeće tu obično blješti kao lightshow. Evo lijepo ti obećajem da ako te još jednom vidim da dodaješ nepostojeće riječi na wikcionar da ću potražiti tehničku pomoć, tj. bota koji će sve tvoje "prijevode" prebacivati u ==Translations to be checked== a unose u glavnom imenskom prostoru označiti s . Tako će svaki tvoj edit bit obiljižen za nekog normalnog da ih provjeri (Dijana ili mene). Izgubio si ama baš svaki kredit i odsad te tretiram kao najobičnijeg trola. --Ivan Štambuk 06:53, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:211.27.17.117


text:
domaćinstvo

Noun

 * 1) household

title: domaćinstvo


text:
Švicarka

Noun

 * 1) (female) Swiss person

title: Švicarka


text:
Švicarac

Noun

 * 1) (male) Swiss person

title: Švicarac


text:
Šveđanka

Noun

 * 1) Swede (female)

title: Šveđanka


text:
Šveđanin

Proper noun

 * 1) Swede (male)

title: Šveđanin


text:
pjena

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) foam

title: pjena


text:
žarulja

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  lightbulb

title: žarulja


text:
jetrica

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) liver (as a meal)

title: jetrica


text:
odjenuti

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to dress, clothe, put on clothes

title: odjenuti


text:
dual-band

Adjective

 * 1) capable of operating on two frequency ranges

title: dual-band


text:
tiho

Noun

 * 1) face
 * notiho — my face
 * tihoti — someone's face

Adverb

 * 1) quietly, silently

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) bar or plate of gold or silver

title: tiho


text: thinktank

title: thinktank


text:
DTIM

Noun

 * : a signal sent as part of a beacon by an AP (access point) to a client device in sleep mode, alerting the device to a packet awaiting delivery.

title: DTIM


text:
beachside

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  Bordering a beach
 * beachside property

Translations

 * Finnish: ;

Noun

 * 1) The land bordering a beach.

Translations

 * Finnish: ,

title: beachside


text:
coalface

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  The surface of coal exposed by mining, or a part of a coal seam that is currently being mined.
 * 2)  The end of a drift, entry, or room in a coal mine.
 * 3)  A place where difficult or strenuous work is done.
 * 4)  A place where more tangible, practical, or direct work of an activity is done, as opposed to theoretical or managerial work.
 * 5) * 2010, Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons. Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Exporting out of recession: third report of session 2009-10. Oral and written evidence, The Stationery Office ISBN 9780215543554, page 20
 * By all means look at streamlining systems, look at changing the way that you produce public services for sure, but please do not cut at the coalface. That goes for a teacher, it goes for a policeman and it goes for a nurse.
 * 1)  A place where more tangible, practical, or direct work of an activity is done, as opposed to theoretical or managerial work.
 * 2) * 2010, Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons. Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Exporting out of recession: third report of session 2009-10. Oral and written evidence, The Stationery Office ISBN 9780215543554, page 20
 * By all means look at streamlining systems, look at changing the way that you produce public services for sure, but please do not cut at the coalface. That goes for a teacher, it goes for a policeman and it goes for a nurse.
 * 1) * 2010, Great Britain. Parliament. House of Commons. Business, Innovation and Skills Committee, Exporting out of recession: third report of session 2009-10. Oral and written evidence, The Stationery Office ISBN 9780215543554, page 20
 * By all means look at streamlining systems, look at changing the way that you produce public services for sure, but please do not cut at the coalface. That goes for a teacher, it goes for a policeman and it goes for a nurse.

Related terms

 * chalkface
 * code face
 * faceworker

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish: louhintapinta, louhintaseinämä
 * Portuguese:
 * Spanish: frente de carbón

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish: louhintapinta, louhintaseinämä
 * Portuguese:
 * Spanish:

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish:
 * Portuguese:
 * Spanish:

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish:
 * Portuguese:
 * Spanish:

title: coalface


text: MTU

title: MTU


text: ⱅⱐⰿⰰ

title: ⱅⱐⰿⰰ


text:
ljepilo

Noun

 * 1)  glue

title: ljepilo


text:
ecosphere

Noun

 * 1) The portion of the atmosphere from sea-level to about 4000 meters in which it is possible to breathe without technological assistance.
 * 2) The biosphere.

Translations

 * Catalan: ecosfera
 * French:
 * Italian: ecosfera
 * Kazakh: экосфера
 * Swedish: ekosfär

 * Russian:
 * Ukrainian: екосфе́ра

title: ecosphere


text: ecospheres

title: ecospheres


text:
mesh network

Noun

 * 1)  A communications network with at least two pathways to each node, forming a net-like organization. When each node is connected to every other node, the network is said to be fully meshed. When only some of the nodes are linked, switching is required to make all the connections and the network is said to be partially meshed, or partially connected.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 網狀網絡
 * Finnish: silmukkaverkko
 * French:

title: mesh network


text:
repin

Verb

 * 1)  To pin again.
 * The doctor repinned the bandage.

title: repin


text: repins

title: repins


text:
repinning

Noun

 * 1) The act of pinning something again.
 * 2) * 2009, Glen David Gold, Sunnyside
 * There were last-minute panicked repinnings of bunting that had diabolically chosen this moment to sag

title: repinning


text: repinned

title: repinned


text: TLS

title: TLS


text: SDMA

title: SDMA


text:
rogue access point

Noun

 * 1)  An unauthorized access point installed on a WLAN.

title: rogue access point


text:
ἀνταποδίδωμι

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to give back, requite, repay, give
 * 2)  to correspond to; to cause to correspond with
 * 3) to make convertible
 * 4)  to correspond with
 * 5)  to give back insults, esp. tu quoque
 * 6)  to give in turn
 * 7)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to correspond with
 * 2)  to give back insults, esp. tu quoque
 * 3)  to give in turn
 * 4)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to correspond with
 * 2)  to give back insults, esp. tu quoque
 * 3)  to give in turn
 * 4)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to give back insults, esp. tu quoque
 * 2)  to give in turn
 * 3)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to give in turn
 * 2)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to give back a sound
 * 1)  to give back a sound

title: ἀνταποδίδωμι


text: abhorrencies

title: abhorrencies


text:
Talk:технический

Why the ..not tɛxníčeskij)? Jcwf 01:33, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Because apparently there are those who think it’s a borrowed technical term and that it’s pronounced hard. This would be an incorrect pronunciation. —Stephen 08:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:технический


text:
sæskrímsli

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) sea monster

title: sæskrímsli


text: tenebrarum

title: tenebrarum


text:
BSSID

Proper noun

 * 1)  A unique address that identifies the access point/router that creates the wireless network.

title: BSSID


text: WPAN

title: WPAN


text: VLAN

title: VLAN


text: tenebrionis

title: tenebrionis


text:
Rhymes:Icelandic/auŋkʏr

Two syllables

 * angur
 * drangur
 * gangur
 * hangur
 * klangur
 * krangur
 * langur
 * rangur
 * sangur
 * strangur
 * svangur
 * tangur
 * vangur

title: Rhymes:Icelandic/auŋkʏr


text:
Talk:G

I've checked several pages for English letters so far, and I noticed the page for u (not U, that is a separate page, though I'm pretty sure it shouldn't be) had a nice pronunciation section for the English letter section, but then L had a nearly as good one, l had none, neither S nor s had one, and now this page (I added pronunciation sections to the English letter sections of those pages lacking one), this inconsistency between pages about letters of the same alphabet, even between capital and lowercase, requires attention. I suggest starting a project working to improve pages dealing with letters of the Latin Alphabet and letters and diacritics of Alphabets derived form the Latin Alphabet, if one does not already exist.Scotty Zebulon 01:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

New definition
G is an abbreviation for gangster in English, and I am not sure if this is attested. 184.19.98.82 23:58, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:G


text:
inadustus

Adjective

 * 1) unburned, unsinged

title: inadustus


text:
unsinged

Adjective

 * 1) Not singed.

title: unsinged


text:
User:Daniel Carrero/vector.js

importScript('User:Lupin/autoedit.js', 'en.wikipedia.org','46637295'); importScript('User:Conrad.Irwin/creation.js'); document.write(' '); importScript('MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js');

title: User:Daniel Carrero/vector.js


text:
muzejski

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  museum

Adverb

 * 1) as if in a museum

title: muzejski


text: mandzsettagombok

title: mandzsettagombok


text: menedzserek

title: menedzserek


text:
mudrac

Etymology
. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) a wise, enlightened man

title: mudrac


text:
temelj

Etymology
From, from ,.

Noun

 * 1) foundation

title: temelj


text:
tjelovježba

Etymology
+.

Noun

 * 1) physical exercise

title: tjelovježba


text:
obilje

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) luxury
 * 2) profusion, abundance

title: obilje


text:
orahovina

Noun

 * 1) walnut

title: orahovina


text:
pepeljara

Noun

 * 1) ashtray

title: pepeljara


text:
širina

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) width, breadth
 * 2) latitude (geographic)

title: širina


text:
duljina

Etymology
See.

Noun

 * 1) length

title: duljina


text: sinistres

title: sinistres


text:
dojka

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) breast (female organ)

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) wetnurse

title: dojka


text:
konobarica

Noun

 * 1) waitress

title: konobarica


text:
čekatelj

Noun

 * 1) waiter someone who waits

title: čekatelj


text:
čekalac

Noun

 * 1) waiter (someone who waits)

title: čekalac


text:
ljetni

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  summer; summery, summer's

title: ljetni


text:
proljetni

Adjective

 * 1)  spring

title: proljetni


text:
zimski

Adjective

 * 1)  winter

title: zimski


text:
ἀνανταπόδοτος

Etymology
From, from +  +.

Adjective

 * 1) without apodosis, being a proposition lacking a consequent clause

title: ἀνανταπόδοτος


text:
veselje

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) joy, delight, revel
 * 2) party, celebration

Noun

 * 1) happiness

title: veselje


text: ἀνανταπόδοτον

title: ἀνανταπόδοτον


text:
nosačica

Noun

 * 1) porter, carrier, bearer

title: nosačica


text: ἀναπόδοτον

title: ἀναπόδοτον


text:
User:Robert LaBonte

I LOVE RETA

title: User:Robert LaBonte


text:
страус эму

Noun

 * 1) emu

title: страус эму


text:
страус

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) ostrich

title: страус


text:
ojačati

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to strengthen (to make strong or stronger, grow strong or stronger)

title: ojačati


text:
пещерный человек

Noun

 * 1) caveman, troglodyte, cave-dweller

title: пещерный человек


text:
kozmički

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) cosmic

title: kozmički


text:
svemirski

Adjective

 * 1)  cosmic, universe

title: svemirski


text: démocratiques

title: démocratiques


text:
sanuka

Adjective

 * 1) small

title: sanuka


text: Category:Warao adjectives

title: Category:Warao adjectives


text:
iné

Pronoun

 * 1) I, first person nominative pronoun

title: iné


text:
tida

Noun

 * 1) woman

title: tida


text:
homakapa

Noun

 * 1) fish

title: homakapa


text: Category:Warao language

title: Category:Warao language


text:
vješalica

Noun

 * 1) hanger (for clothes)

title: vješalica


text:
hoto

Alternative forms

 * (Benin)

Etymology
Possibly from, cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬

Noun

 * 1) belly
 * 2) pregnancy

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) photograph

Noun

 * 1) blood

title: hoto


text:
huhi

Noun

 * 1) feather

title: huhi


text:
izgubljen

Adjective

 * 1) lost

title: izgubljen


text:
-kʷa

Noun

 * 1) head

title: -kʷa


text: Category:Warao nouns

title: Category:Warao nouns


text:
odluka

Etymology
,.

Noun

 * 1) separation
 * odluka státu a církve, odluka manželů

Noun

 * 1) decision

title: odluka


text: Category:Warao pronouns

title: Category:Warao pronouns


text:
kameho

Noun

 * 1) breast

title: kameho


text:
hokohi

Noun

 * 1) sun

title: hokohi


text:
odlučan

Adjective

 * 1) resolute, energetic, decisive, decided

title: odlučan


text:
presudan

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) decisive, crucial (having the power or quality of deciding a question or controversy)

title: presudan


text:
odlučujući

Adjective

 * 1) decisive (having the power or quality of deciding a question or controversy)

title: odlučujući


text:
waniku

Noun

 * 1) moon

title: waniku


text:
naha

Noun

 * 1) mother

Pronoun

 * 1) ; I

Pronoun

 * 1) that, that one

Noun

 * 1) land, country

Noun

 * 1) today

Noun

 * 1) rain

title: naha


text:
freknóttur

Etymology
From. Composed of.

Adjective

 * 1) freckled

title: freknóttur


text:
waha

Noun

 * 1) playing in water

Etymology
From. Compare 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) mouth

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) mouth

Noun

 * 1) sand

Etymology
From or.

Pronoun

 * 1)  I; me

title: waha


text:
kohe

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) at once, immediately, right away
 * 2) right, in the immediate distance of
 * 3)  soon, in a minute
 * 1)  soon, in a minute
 * 1)  soon, in a minute

Noun

 * 1)  vagina

Interjection

 * 1) yes

Etymology 1
From (cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬). Sense of tree comes from similarity of thick stems and leaflet bases to bamboo fronds displacing the original meaning.

Noun

 * 1)  bamboo
 * 1)  bamboo

Derived terms

 * (by reduplication)

Noun

 * , a kind of passionfruit endemic to New Zealand.

Noun

 * 1) cloud

title: kohe


text:
hehuku

Noun

 * 1) smoke

title: hehuku


text:
hekunu

Noun

 * 1) fire

title: hekunu


text:
huhu-hoko

Noun

 * 1) ashes

title: huhu-hoko


text: umiac

title: umiac


text: oomiac

title: oomiac


text:
žmuo

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) man

title: žmuo


text:
xatt il-baħar

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) beach

title: xatt il-baħar


text:
ภู

Declension
With implicit vowels:

Without implicit vowels:

Declension
With implicit vowels:

Without implicit vowels:

Etymology 1
From or. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  earth; land; world.
 * 2)  king.

Etymology 2
From. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) mound.
 * 2) mountain; hill.

title: ภู


text:
विंशति

Etymology
, from, from.

Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1) twenty, a score (with a noun either in genitive or in apposition, e.g.)

Descendants

 * Dardic:
 * Dardic:
 * Dardic:

title: विंशति


text:
User:Meksikatsi

/workspace

title: User:Meksikatsi


text:
User:Meksikatsi/workspace

.

title: User:Meksikatsi/workspace


text:
User talk:Meksikatsi

,

Savant
I have moved the discussion to my talk page, but you may prefer it on yours (to which I have no objection and which might be better all around). DCDuring TALK 21:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Just feeling my way around at the moment so I'll go with your feeling on a move; I see you've got a lot going on. Meksikatsi 21:56, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Savant is a small publisher, local to the Monterey Bay, California, an area with thousands of artists and writers. A box of materials consisting of books of poetry, treatises, papers, and art published by Savant has been passed on to me by the estate of Mr. Peter Pestoni, whose name is the In Care Of Name for the non-profit. There are no ISBN numbers or copyright notices on any of the materials, although there are multiple examples of some of them.  I suspect that the materials were never registered as they are specifically donated by the authors and copyright-free.  The Savant non-profit reference that I posted earlier does not list the details of their fictitious name statement or Fed ID number, unless you pay, but documents in the box in my possession do have that information listed.  I do have first hand knowledge that the non-profit still exists as it's fallen to me to categorize these materials and hand them over to the new administration.  Some of Mr. Pestoni's personal notes in his notebooks, which are present, requested such disposition and public categorization, which I am trying to accomplish.  A couple of further points - these works don't seem to be self-published as there are probably 30 different authors represented.  There are also newspaper clips present about several of the authors and even the newsclip (Legal Notice) when the organization filed a fictitious name statement as "Savant Nonprofit Publications".  That would seem to alleviate any concern that Savant was not a literary, non-profit publisher.   Meksikatsi 17:49, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry to make you jump through hoops, but we are now clearly in a gray area. Usually we don't have to go back to first principles when verifying an entry. Let me think about this a bit before you do any more. I will put something about the issues raised on Beer Parlor for discussion. There is a minimum of 30 days for an RfV. If it is controversial, it can and almost always does stay longer. Once the discussion is going on WT:BP, I'll make an explicit link at the RfV to reduce the risk of premature deletion (which is reversible). Might it be possible and useful to put Savant publications on Wikisource or get them scanned by Google? I am not a lawyer, but I do know that the exact terms under which Savant published these authors' works can matter. For example the GFDL that WMF uses is not the same as other "free" licenses. DCDuring TALK 18:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No issues with the "hoops" here. That's what it's all about, no?  My participation in this particular discussion came about when I saw a reference to one of the publications put up on Wikisource.  My goal is exactly as you stated, to put up all the works Savant published, but that will take time.  There are statements in the Articles of Incorporation, State of California, to the effect that Savant publications must all be donated and free of copyright, if that is the issue here...I'm just not certain where to post them...maybe under a heading in the Savant article...publisher's terms to authors...maybe?  Anyway, if you guys think it would be helpful to put up the works cited in this article first, I can do that.  Meksikatsi 19:38, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Wikisource would be the folks to talk to about licensing, scanning, and other issues. can you reach the authors or their heirs if necessary? It might be better to start with one work that has everything going for it to determine whether there are complications. I will proceed shortly to investigate any precedents in Wiktionary practice. DCDuring TALK 21:10, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking this under your wing. While you're undertaking the precedents I'll endeavor to track down some verbage in the documents.  A statement by an author or the editor may be enough if posted...but where?  I'm thinking in the Savant article with a pointer to wikisource...guess I'll try to track that down with them as well.  Meksikatsi 21:52, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The problem is identifying who is empowered to grant Wikisource a GFDL-type license, I think. As an example, if Savant had the power, but has not paid annual corporation filing fees, then what happens to its property. Does it revert to the authors by default? I suspect something like that. Publishers have people who work full time on "copyright clearance", which covers this I think. Wikimedia Foundation is a bit poverty stricken and may not have such. DCDuring TALK 00:08, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the insight. Let's see if I can clear it by learning more about licensing myself and tracking it down.  At least by reading more about GFDL I see more the fine points involved (it's going to take some study to "get it".)  The other route would be to have an author definitively release the work, as I have contact info on a few - then there is a copyright tag for that.  Is it enough for me to see the release or should it be posted somewhere on Wikimedia?  Meksikatsi 10:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)  Meksikatsi 10:15, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

 * WikiSource would probably be the place to go for that answer. DCDuring TALK 11:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

 * An interesting development. I see documentation concerning the release of one of the author's works.  This release contains the verbage "as all Savant publications are required by the by-laws of the corporation to be free of copyright..."  Does this not meet GFDL requirements?  It's obvious that a GFDL notice could not be associated with these works as they are published prior to GFDL inception, however, since they have no copyright notice, there is no copyright tag that exactly fits this criteria, i.e., there is no copyright holder to release anything.  I believe that a "PD-author-release" would fit that simply says "This work is in the public domain worldwide because it has been so released by the author."  Since Savant by-laws require this release prior to publication, the publication of such works, without a copyright, has the intent of meeting GFDL licensing, even though Savant administrators had no way of knowing about GFDL requirements.  So, ironically, we find ourselves discussing IF we can allow publication of a free copyright pioneer to a free copyright publication, Wikisource.  Meksikatsi 11:32, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Now we're getting somewhere. Don't the works themselves contain some kind of notice? DCDuring TALK 11:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No. Since the document is a general reference to works published by Savant, I'm thinking about posting it to the Savant article as a general policy with references to the works and including the new tag with each.  Meksikatsi 14:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Savant article has been annotated with the free copyright information and linked to some works on Wikisource. More of the publications will be added and linked as time allows.  Meksikatsi 21:31, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The attestation value of the sources will probably be established by being on Wikisource, but it would be nice if there were a library that had the works and recorded their ownership in Worldcat (universities do). Stanford? Santa cruz? DCDuring TALK 21:39, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. And you're suggestion started me thinking that may be the case.  I know that the present editor is a Franciscan Priest who is on some kind of retreat and I have a snail mail to him asking him some pertinent questions as of today.  From the documents and events newsclips, it's clear that some kind of non-profit library was set up by Savant.  I would assume that might hold some of their publications but there is no catalog with this lot.  I'll stick with this, checking out the libraries, and appreciate your working with me on my project.  If you want to move this to my talk page, I'm feeling more confident that I'll be able to handle it now.  Meksikatsi 00:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Beer Parlor discussion
See discussion near/at bottom of WT:BP. DCDuring TALK 01:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

title: User talk:Meksikatsi


text: RGY

title: RGY


text:
come with

Etymology
From a substrate of several immigrant languages that feature the same construction. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 for the Midwest and 🇨🇬 for South Africa.

Verb

 * Come with us and see the film!
 * My new computer came with a keyboard and mouse, but no speakers.
 * 1)  To join and come along.
 * We’re going out to lunch. Do you want to come with?
 * We’re going out to lunch. Do you want to come with?

Usage notes

 * The construction of come with as a particle verb, as above, is dialectal. See Upper Midwest American English grammar or for details.
 * Standard English does allow the preposition with to be used after to come, as in: “We’re going out to lunch. Do you want to come with us?” But since with is not a particle in this construction but a preposition, it must always be followed by an object.

title: come with


text:
त्रिंशत्

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1) thirty

title: त्रिंशत्


text:
Template talk:new es past part

Used?
Does anyone really use this? Shouldn't the name say it's used for past participles only? --Bequw → ¢ • τ 05:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Dunno but I've totally redone it, including renaming it. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

title: Template talk:new es past part


text:
User talk:Willscrlt

Hello!
Welcome to. I placed this message here just to avoid making someone else have to welcome me. I'm an experienced wiki editor with over 4,000 edits across several Wikimedia Foundation sites. Instead of giving me a generic welcome message for typical new users, why not give me some pointers on what makes unique and different from the English Wikipedia, WikiBooks, and Commons—the three sites with which I am most familiar. Thanks! Have a great day. -- Will scrlt  ( Talk )

title: User talk:Willscrlt


text:
Talk:Alaric

Etymology
It's supposed to mean "king of all." 24.29.238.60 05:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * In which language? DCDuring TALK 10:45, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Gothic, from Proto-Germanic, it seems. He preferred to be called Alaricus. DCDuring TALK 11:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Not sure if he "preferred" a Latinised name. He was famous for fighting the Romans. I think that is just an issue with Roman historians. Like Arminius. Arminius is famous also for destroying the Romans in the year 9AD. Highly doubt he would WANT to be called "Arminius".

And yes, "Alarich" is German for "all king", or "ruler of all". Wiki list is as a variant spelling of "Ulrich", but that is completely wrong. Ulrich's fist prefix comes from Othilla/Adel. Does not look like it, but it is. 73.220.34.167 18:00, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:Alaric


text: humores

title: humores


text: latinos

title: latinos


text:
montarsi

Verb

 * 1) to get a big head
 * 1) to get a big head

title: montarsi


text:
montarsi la testa

Etymology
lit. 'to swell one's head'.

Verb

 * 1)  to get big-headed

title: montarsi la testa


text: ernstiger

title: ernstiger


text:
financieel

Adjective

 * 1) financial

title: financieel


text:
चत्वारिंशत्

Etymology
, from, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1) forty

Descendants

 * Dardic:

title: चत्वारिंशत्


text: breakie

title: breakie


text:
uitblijven

Verb

 * 1)  to fail to appear, materialize or occur

title: uitblijven


text:
पञ्चाशत्

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1) fifty

title: पञ्चाशत्


text: ἐννήκοντα

title: ἐννήκοντα


text:
krediet

Etymology
From, from , neuter of , past participe of. The verb is from the noun.

Noun

 * 1) credit

title: krediet


text: kredieten

title: kredieten


text:
Եվրասիա

Proper noun

 * 1) Eurasia

title: Եվրասիա


text:
panna montata

Noun

 * 1) whipped cream

title: panna montata


text:
ἐνενήκοντα

Etymology
From, from (whence also ) +  (whence also . Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1)  ninety

Usage notes
While generally indeclinable, a genitive: is attested.

title: ἐνενήκοντα


text:
montata lattea

Noun

 * 1)  lactation onset

title: montata lattea


text: ὀγδώκοντα

title: ὀγδώκοντα


text: croste lattee

title: croste lattee


text:
ὀγδοήκοντα

Etymology
From, from earlier , influenced by in analogy with. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Numeral

 * 1)  eighty

title: ὀγδοήκοντα


text:
полуостров

Noun

 * 1) peninsula

Noun

 * 1) peninsula

Noun

 * 1) peninsula

title: полуостров


text: τετρώκοντα

title: τετρώκοντα


text:
Talk:yehr

Requests for verification - kept
Kept. See archived discussion of December 2008. 07:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:yehr


text:
Talk:hyperspace

Requests for verification - kept
Kept. See archived discussion of December 2008. 07:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:hyperspace