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Talk:tennis player

RFD
soccer player, baseball player, basketball player, tennis player

SoP. If not, we would expect to have one of these entries for every sport, which is sheer insanity. P.S. I realise they may translate to single words in other languages, but that doesn't force the existence of English entries; the translations from those other languages need only be broken into multiple links. Equinox ◑ 22:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

 * Basketball player and tennis player have previously passed RFD, on the basis that in common use they refer specifically to a professional player of the sport. The same reasoning would presumably apply to soccer player and baseball player. I am slightly less convinced of this reasoning than I was the last time around, but still don't see any pressing need to delete; the set of entries to which this argument applies is quite small. -- Visviva 04:42, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. As Visviva has noted, we've been through this discussion twice before (at least).  Without new reasoning or a change in policy, there is no need to go through this discussion again. --EncycloPetey 16:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per EP.—msh210 ℠  16:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep per EP. Perhaps we could file a copy of the last discussion on the talk pages of the three or four most common entries? -- A LGRIF  talk  17:09, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Please do (or preferably a link, to avoid partial duplication), or else this will come up again and again. I had no idea that a person who plays basketball non-professionally wouldn't count as a basketball player (and I think that's ridiculous and wrong, but I will yield to consensus). Equinox ◑ 00:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep all. Master P plays basketball, but failed to become a basketball player. bd2412 T 20:17, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

All kept. 63.95.64.254 03:01, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

RFV
"A person who plays tennis, especially professionally." Talk:tennis player states that this was kept because tennis player implies a professional (though the definition doesn't reflect this, has the definition been changed?) Anyway, to the best of my knowledge tennis player does not imply a professional. It implies a player of tennis. Am seeking verification of that. Definition will be reworded to fit with RFD debate. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Same or almost same wording is used in soccer player, baseball player, basketball player, ice hockey player, squash player, chess player and whatnot. If I recall right, the reasoning was that these may be professions and all professions should be included. The reasoning also served as justification for the current wording and, I think, to circumvent the obvious SOPism of defining a tennis player as one who plays tennis. BTW, for some reason we do not have golf player, although "professional golf player" gets more than 30,000 hits in a Google search. --Hekaheka (talk) 05:43, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Doubtless, the term is attested in the sense "A person who plays tennis." If the "especially professionally" part of the definition does not get attested, a pro-keeping argument to be subsequently used in RFD is translation targets per Italian "tennista", Polish "tenisista", and Russian "теннисист", all single-word translations that are non-compounds. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * But all other-languages arguments are irrelevant, a point that is well-established. DCDuring TALK 22:49, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Where is that point well established? --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:36, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep all and reformat like one and a half into Category:English non-idiomatic translation targets. A great number of languages have "players" incorporated into the name of the game (if not a majority) but English words like footballer are less common. The template will solve the problem with definitions. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 01:15, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

 * I say keep as-is. Barack Obama plays basketball, but he isn't a basketball player; LeBron James is a basketball player, even though he might also have played a game of tennis or football at some point. The term passes the, well, "tennis player" test of WT:IDIOM. Most available citations are of the given definition, which adequately conveys the quasi-idiomatic nature of the term. - -sche (discuss) 07:54, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Barack Obama is a basketball player, it just isn't the first thing that comes to mind when you hear his name. LeBron James can be called a tennis or football player during any period of time during which he at least semi-regularly plays tennis or football. In any case, you can put any sport in front of the word player and get the same result so it is SOP with the relevant definition belonging on . --WikiTiki89 08:22, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, delete: of course Obama is a basketball player because he plays basketball. The phrase "keen basketball player" (always an amateur) makes this clear. Equinox ◑ 09:54, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Since this has turned into an RFD discussion, (and I would claim "clear widespread use" as far as RFV is concerned, I suggest moving to RFD. - -sche (discuss) 20:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

 * I noticed (belatedly) that the term in its first sense (professional) had already passed RFD and was kept. The word "especially" implies that non-professional tennis players can also be called that. No need to create an additional sense for non-professionals. The entry should be detagged and left alone. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 21:49, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

 * I have removed the tag, because the term is clearly attested, and the discussion above should be taking place on WT:RFD. Feel free to tag the entry  and move this discussion to WT:RFD. - -sche (discuss) 00:18, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

RFD 2
Fails the tennis player test. Tennis player means a player of tennis, either professionally or not professionally. The 'professional' bit has to be worked out from the context, i.e. by reading the whole passage or document and not just the words 'tennis' and 'player'. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:11, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * What happened to the fried egg test?
 * Keep as an important sporting term, and as a translations target. It's not in the same league as a tiddlywinks player. Donnanz (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * What is the difference between the two? Seem the same to me. - TheDaveRoss 16:32, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * He's saying it's culturally different (but not lexically different). Renard Migrant (talk) 14:48, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

 * What has changed since this term was kept in 2006, 2008, 2009, and 2012? I don't think our policy has changed, nor has the meaning of the term "tennis player". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:28, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

 * X-player terms have previously been kept on the grounds that a non-professional X player isn't an X player, which I have refuted more than once. (After all, one can talk about a "keen tennis player", "amateur basketball player", etc. which are clearly not professionals.) So I'll just raise that point again and repeat my delete. Equinox ◑ 17:56, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well consensus can change: for one, accordion player has failed since 2012. 2012 was RFV not RFD so in fact 2009 was its last RFD, aroud 7 years ago. That's a lot. For an organization to have changed its views in 7 years is not very surprising. Renard Migrant (talk) 19:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete A look at Google books shows that actually, "tennis player" implying professionalism is far from universal. Of the hits for "is a tennis player" where I can see the context clearly, the following are about adults who are amateur tennis players:

 * 1978, introduction to Samuel Pepys, The Illustrated Pepys: Extracts from the Diary, Univ of California Press ISBN 9780520036338, page 7
 * In this perspective the great personages are reduced to the same dimensions as the rest of us - the King is a tennis player and an amateur of science
 * 2002, Abraham N. Lieberman, Shaking Up Parkinson Disease: Fighting Like a Tiger, Thinking Like a Fox : a Book for the Puzzled, the Hopeful, the Willing, and the Prepared, Jones & Bartlett Learning ISBN 9780763718664, page 193
 * George is a tennis player and was having difficulty with his backstroke. [George's job is not defined, but it's implied to be management.]

 * 2002, Frederick Charles Copleston, Contemporary Philosophy: Studies of Logical Positivism and Existentialism, A&C Black ISBN 9780826465078, page 77
 * Smith may be both a metaphysician and a mystic, but this no more means that mysticism is synonymous with or a part  of metaphysics than the fact that Jones is a tennis player and a doctor means that the practice of medicine is synonymous with or a part of tennis-playing.
 * 2006, Michael F. Bird, Jesus and the Origins of the Gentile Mission, Bloomsbury Publishing ISBN 9780567451583
 * In the academic sphere, to my Doktorvater Dr Rick Strelan (who is just a fine a scholar as he is a tennis player).
 * 2007, Victor Woods, A Breed Apart: A Journey to Redemption, Simon and Schuster ISBN 9781416592044, page 248
 * My father is a tennis player and he would often talk to me about the many duels he would have on the courts at the country club he  belonged to.

 * The following is about a professional tennis player:

 * 2013, Mark Hodgkinson, Andy Murray Wimbledon Champion: The Full and Extraordinary Story, Simon and Schuster ISBN 9781471128578
 * Where is a tennis player's body most likely to plead with him to drop his racket in the middle of the rally, put his head under a towel and retreat to the locker-room? Well, it's not Wimbledon [...]

 * And these are about students who play tennis:

 * 2004, David L. McKenna, Isaiah 1-39: Isaiah 1-39, Thomas Nelson Inc ISBN 9781418587666
 * Our youngest son, Rob, is a tennis player who seldom wor a major championship in high school or college because he lacked the “killer instinct”needed to crush  his opponents.
 * 2013, Girls And Love, Booktango ISBN 9781468920901
 * Autumn Leigh is up anything because she is an optimistic. She is a tennis player that makes her level headed and trusting.
 * 2013, Pamela Erens, The Virgins: A Novel, Tin House Books ISBN 9781935639633, page 22
 * He is a tennis player, shorter than Detweiler. His hair is dark, his cheeks hollowed. His family has loads of money and a ski cabin in Vermont.

 * It does in fact seem to be someone who plays tennis in any capacity, not just professional. Smurrayinchester (talk) 18:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete. The claim that a basketball player is necessarily one who plays professionally is at best a no true Scotsman fallacy and at worst an outright lie. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:25, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Make it a translation target or delete it, either way overturning the "tennis player test". I don't mind keeping it as a translation target, I just want us to recognize that it's not idiomatic. shows that even defining this as "a person who plays tennis" is wrong!
 * 1991 April 30, Weekly World News, volume 12, number 30, page 43:
 * "Gala is five times stronger than your average male tennis player and never gets tired because she is a machine. Her Japanese researcher has robot tennis player that and plays rings around [humans...]
 * 2015, Felice Arena, Tennis: Sporty Kids ISBN 0857977369:
 * The Rally Robot was a super tennis player.
 * etc
 * At Tea room/2016/February, it's just recently been opined and I agree that "woodwind player" is SOP and shouldn't have an entry. In that case, we have woodwindist, an idiomatic term, to host translations. Perhaps woodwind player should still exist as a hard- or soft-redirect to woodwindist so that those translations are more easily findable, but woodwind player shouldn't have a full entry with a definition (IMO), and neither should this. - -sche (discuss) 19:34, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Who on earth would want to put a translation under woodwindist? Not me. Donnanz (talk) 19:49, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I come back to the same question I've asked at least twice before. Is it really all about you, Donnanz? Renard Migrant (talk) 21:51, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Let's not personalize the debate like that. I see the point that "woodwindist" is a very uncommon term, perhaps not one where people would think to look for translations. The question, I suppose, is whether people (who are presumably vaguely aware that we don't include entirely unidiomatic strings like "the shirt is blue", and hence who don't expect us to have translations of "the shirt is blue") would expect us to have translations of "woodwind player". If they would, then we should have a redirect of some sort to woodwindist (or, some might argue, an entry) at "woodwind player". (My main concern is that we recognize these things as unidiomatic translation targets, rather than pretending they're something idiomatic, something more than just "tennis" or "woodwind" + "player".) - -sche (discuss) 22:13, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a much more constructive comment. RM needs to be reminded that users cannot be forced, and they can vote with their feet. Donnanz (talk) 22:35, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll make the general point then. User should put the good of the project ahead of their own personal preferences. Renard Migrant (talk) 22:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The "good of the project" is not being served by RFDs like this. Donnanz (talk) 22:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know about overturning it - it's a perfectly good rule (it protects entries like eye doctor and interior designer), it just doesn't apply in the eponymous case. Perhaps it should be renamed the border guard rule or truck driver rule. Smurrayinchester (talk) 16:08, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per SMurray's facts, which would seem to trump the other contributions to this discussion. DCDuring TALK 20:47, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Deletionism is rising again… Job titles for athletes in English are well fixed. No child says “I wanna be a player!” when he/she wants to be a tennis player. If tennis player was an arbitrary combination, you could say player of tennis interchangeably, but at least in modern English everyone says tennis player when referring to a professional tennis player. The cover term of tennis player, baseball player, etc. is rather athlete, not player. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 23:30, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
 * People also say "my child" far more often than "child of mine," that doesn't mean that "my child" is idiomatic. People say "cook" when referring to professional cooks, yet cook doesn't apply exclusively to professional cooks. - TheDaveRoss 00:13, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Where else would we put the translations? Benwing2 (talk) 01:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * BTW, in regard to "robot tennis player", this is the same issue of prototypicality as with "glass bird". Our defn of bird says it's an animal with wings and feathers that usually flies; glass birds are none of these (unless you throw them at someone?) but that doesn't make the defn wrong. Benwing2 (talk) 01:19, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

 * We've been there. The entry was kept. Keep keeping. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 01:31, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete. Let's try to imagine how this would look in a printed dictionary:
 * Basketball: a game played by two teams of five players, in which the object is to maneuver a ball, called a "basketball", into the other team's goal, known as a basket.
 * Basketball player: one who plays basketball.
 * Chess: a strategy game for two players using a board with sixty-four squares and two sets of sixteen pieces of varying rank and function.
 * Chess player: one who plays chess.
 * Tennis: (orig. lawn tennis) a racquet game usually played by two players stationed on opposite sides of a tennis court, with a low net stretched between them.
 * Tennis player: one who plays tennis.
 * Just how many examples should I list? I could release quite a volley: baseball, football, soccer, quidditch, hockey, darts, table tennis, croquet, badminton, volleyball, checkers, Monopoly, backgammon, lacrosse, horseshoes, polo, water polo, Marco Polo, one old cat, two old cat, rounders, court tennis, jai alai, poker, blackjack, gin rummy, jacks, tiddlywinks, marbles, pool, snooker... and many others.  Who is served by these obvious definitions?  I don't mean to fault anyone's intentions, but the mere fact that we often have impressions of some of the persons described by a phrase (such as some of them being "professionals") doesn't seem to point to any pressing need.  Such a set of definitions doesn't appear to match what other dictionaries have done; is there an urgent reason for Wiktionary to break new ground?  Is there really some advantage to having "tennis player" primarily for non-English speakers who cannot not intuit the meaning of tennis + player?  I can't force anyone to agree with me on whether such phrases should be left in or taken out; if people aren't willing to change their minds, resolving this will be a deuce of a challenge.  All I can say to them is that the ball is in their court.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you want examples from another online dictionary, which leaves Wiktionary in the shade - (several pages). Some terms such as football player have an equivalent (footballer), but this doesn't apply in every case, including tennis player. Donnanz (talk) 20:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's not a dictionary, it's a wordbook. Its sole purpose is to provide translations from English into German, so of course it includes all kinds of examples we don't have or need.  Or are you suggesting that we should add English entries for every word or phrase that exists in German?  If so, then we need to add accordion player, attacking player, bagpipe player, bass player, billiards player, blues player, Bosman player (as well as Bosman), bowls player, brass player, bridge player, card player, cautious player, cithara player, clarinet player, clavichord player, clean player, club player, concertina player, conservative player, contract player, cricket player, cymbal player, daring player, defensive player, doubles player, experienced player, fellow player, fistball player, flute player, former player, global player, golf player, guitar player, gusle player, harmonica player, harp player, harpsichord player, homegrown player, individual player, intermediate player, key player, keyboard player, lottery player, lute player, mandolin player, market player, midfield player, oboe player, offensive player, opposing player, organ player, outfield player, radball player, reckless player, recorder player, reed player, regular player, rugby player, sitar player, skat player, skittles player, squash player, string player, tambourine player, top player, tournament player, trombone player, trumpet player, tuba player, viol player, viola player, violin player, visiting player, weak player, wind player, woodwind player, young player, youth player, zither player, beach volleyball player, blues piano player, cycle polo player, cycle-ball player, double bass player, English horn player, exceptionally skilled player, fellow skat player, frame drum player, French harp player, French horn player, ice hockey player, international football player, left-footed player, locally trained player, and visually handicapped player, as well as all of the above, and many others, such as Scrabble player, four-square player, kickball player, Calvinball player, wiffleball player, eight-ball player, nine-ball player, ninepins player, tenpins player, duckpins player, rubber-band-duckpins player, ping-pong player, Twister player, Hungry Hungry Hippos player, Operation! player, mumblety peg player, hide-and-seek player, I spy player, bingo player, pinball player, air hockey player, air guitar player, blind man's bluff player, canasta player, cribbage player, Dungeons & Dragons player, duck duck goose player, hot potato player, musical chairs player, king-of-the-hill player, keep away player, kick the can player, monkey in the middle player, Mikado player, mahjong player, dominoes player, dice player, craps player, baccarat player, roulette player, leapfrog player, pattycake player, peekaboo player, pin-the-tail-on-the-donkey player, Poohsticks player, Pick-up sticks player, Russian roulette player, rock-paper-scissors player, seven-up player, hearts player, spades player, crazy eights player, snap player, old maid player, authors player, spin-the-bottle player, tag player, truth-or-dare player, Yahtzee player, trick player, practical joke player, serpent player, sackbut player, sousaphone player, cornet player, contrabass player, soprano saxophone player, alto saxophone player, tenor saxophone player, and many, many, many more.  Can you give me one good reason why readers would benefit from these entries?  What is it about them that isn't discernible, even by speakers of foreign languages, from the separate and constituent parts of each phrase?  P Aculeius (talk) 22:57, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You wasted all that space in asking a silly question? The answer is, of course, NO. Donnanz (talk) 00:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * You don't like the question? That's too bad.  Nobody made you waste your time reading it.  In answer to your query, "did I waste all that space asking a silly question?" the answer is, of course, NO.  I wasted all that space replying to a silly suggestion that the challenged entry was justified by its occurrence in a wordbook together with pages and pages of similar entries.  P Aculeius (talk) 04:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have noticed that you tend to waste a lot of space wherever you leave your four tildes, not just here. Every entry should be judged on its merits, and I have spent some time deliberating on whether to make an entry, e.g. woodwind player - fortunately I don't create many in English - someone thought this entry is worthwhile and I agree. If it is deleted many translations, quite a few of which are not compound words, will be orphaned as a monument to stupidity. Perhaps you would like to vent your spleen on clarinet-player instead (current RFV). It was entered by the same user who nominated accordion player for deletion, so a double standard was employed. Donnanz (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, bully for you! I'm glad somebody on Wiktionary makes it his personal mission to ensure that nobody wastes too much space.  As we know, space is in very short supply on Wiktionary.  Each unnecessary jot and tittle uses thousands of photons on each computer screen, and our world has much more need of them for combating hunger and disease!  You too can contribute by not attempting to refute other people's arguments with murky reasoning that we should keep "tennis player" as an entry, because a German user would be confused by the notion that tennisspieler merely equals tennis + spieler!  If it was not your intention to suggest that all of the above list be turned into entries because they might be compounded into single words in German or other languages, then why exactly did you make the point of how many similar words there were?  Perhaps your aggression toward others ("you wasted all that space in asking a silly question?  ...NO.  ...you tend to waste a lot of spaces wherever you leave your four tildes.  Perhaps you would like to vent your spleen...") is a sign of misdirected anger toward your own inability to present a cogent argument based on your opinions.  If you think a particular entry is useful and ought to be kept, fine, say so, state your chief reason, and let others present their opinions without the need to imply that their reasoning must be faulty because you can find distantly-related examples that even you don't consider relevant to the discussion.  And when such arguments are effectively rebutted by showing what kind of strange results would come of following your reasoning to its logical end, I suggest you give up, rather than attacking what you consider to be the personal faults of the contributor ("your posts use too many Kilobytes!  You're killing too many e-trees!  You're wrong because you're an angry person!").  I'm sure your talents could be put to better use.  P Aculeius (talk) 13:55, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I had to plough through all that lot of nothingness to get to the bottom line. Yes, you're right in one respect, I have better things to do than argue the toss. I have made my point. Donnanz (talk) 16:27, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Donnanz you've failed to explain which of those terms should be created and which shouldn't. You say 'of course, NO' and I assumed you'd've have said 'of course, YES'. What criterion are you using to separate these into two groups, then. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Also I don't think you have made your point, unless your personal attack on P Aculeius was your point. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have reread what I have written, and I can't find one word which constitutes a personal attack. Yes, I have given criticism, but we all have to take that whether we like it or not, and I seem to get plenty. Donnanz (talk) 20:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * dict.cc is a bad "lemming" (in the sense of the "lemming test" some people use), because it functions (as noted above) as a phrasebook, and even includes things like "A car drove past the house. = Ein Wagen fuhr am Haus vorbei.", which I hope no-one wants us to include. - -sche (discuss) 22:21, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If you don't like it you can edit it, unregistered users can do that just like here. Donnanz (talk) 00:03, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you hear yourself? You can't expect us to have to edit every other editable online dictionary to justify making a change here. --WikiTiki89 01:12, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * My point is that dict.cc's CFI are fundamentally different from Wiktionary's, because dict.cc routinely includes unidiomatic things up to and including entire long sentences, whereas we don't. Hence, the inclusion or non-inclusion of "tennis player" in dict.cc, which you cite, is not relevant to us. - -sche (discuss) 02:11, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought you meant the translation was wrong. But I have seen example sentences including translations within entries, which is not such a bad idea. Donnanz (talk) 10:16, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per everyone else who voted delete above. --WikiTiki89 23:58, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. I'm fairly certain that this is covered by a meaning of (one needs to be added as a subsense of "one who plays"), and is entirely SOP. It could be applied to any sport, board game, video game, etc. The fact that it's a profession doesn't seem like a good argument for keeping it. By that logic, we'd also have  among a host of others. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 23:59, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as a translation target. Do the supporters of deletion really think that we should omit translations from SoP English terms in cases where many other languages use a single-word term for the concept in question? This, that and the other (talk) 10:28, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * YES WE DO. We've heard that argument 99 times before too. Agglutinative languages often have single words for extraordinarily complex concepts (that-he-was-about-to-pick-up-the-newspaper), or things unknown to Anglophone culture (do we need an English entry for e.g. Maori digging-stick since that's one word in Maori)? Equinox ◑ 13:04, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, obviously. Why else would we be voting to delete? Renard Migrant (talk) 18:29, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do we need entries for fellow student (Mitstudent) and female fellow student (Mitstudentin) and third-party motor vehicle insurance (Kraftfahrzeughaftpflichtversicherung)? Each German word, and each English phrase, is attested. - -sche (discuss) 22:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's the perennial problem that we're up against all the time with compound words as used in German and other languages, and it certainly applies to this RFD. Donnanz (talk) 13:38, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Well, we clearly need to draw the line somewhere between "water" and "that-he-was-about-to-pick-up-the-newspaper", and it looks like I see this term falling on the "water" side of the line (mainly because it's a reasonably simple, common term that could plausibly be found in the English-to-X part of many paper bilingual dictionaries), while many others see it on the "that-he-was-about-to-pick-up-the-newspaper" side. In my view, deleting entries like this makes Wiktionary worse for our readers. This, that and the other (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 12:58, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. - TheDaveRoss 13:09, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I voted Delete in the last 25 discussions about this, and I still vote the same. There has not been a single convincing argument to keep it. --Ce mot-ci (talk) 15:41, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep: per Donnanz Pur ple back pack 89  15:27, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have found a whole bunch of hyphenated WurdSnatcher "creations", including accordion-player, yet accordion player was nominated by the same contributor for deletion. Grr! Needless to say I have RFVed it. Donnanz (talk) 11:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep as a translation target: single-word non-compound translations include Galician tenista, Italian tennista, and Spanish tenista; many other languages can be listed along as per tennis player. I don't count German Tennisspieler toward translation target since that is a compound. For those who are interested, me and bd2412 have been drafting candidate criteria at User_talk:Dan_Polansky/2015; we have drafted rationale at User_talk:Dan_Polansky/2015. From the rationale, let me quote the middleman/hub example: "anglistika → English studies → Anglistik". From what I have seen, the opposers of translation target are using various strawman arguments. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:36, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * An example entry is [[elder brother]], where a part of the definition is (This entry is here for translation purposes only.) (it's all it needs) and belongs to [[:Category:English_non-idiomatic_translation_targets]]. The entry lets find idiomatic translations (and optionally non-idiomatic) into numerous languages and is a compromise. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:44, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't like these "This entry is here for translation purposes only" texts and the template. I don't find it more useful or better. On another note, "tennis player" is in Collins; since Collins shows translations, it may be there as a translation target, but I don't know. Collins does not show "This entry is here for translation purposes only". --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:47, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't insist on that text. It just indicates that the entry was kept or created for the purpose of translations, especially if it's more common to have idiomatic translations in the target languages. If the term appears in Collins, then it passes the lemmings test. We should keep it and stop wasting each other's time. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:00, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment: Just wanted to point out that the "translation target" argument previously led to a discussion about twelve-year-old being kept for lack of consensus for deletion. Smuconlaw (talk) 13:11, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Question: is there some reason why the German entry for tennisspieler can't show the English translation as tennis player (two words, each leading to its own entry)? If it's allowable, why would it be so confusing?  Tennis and spieler are both perfectly ordinary German words, and German speakers are perfectly well aware that tennisspieler is simply tennis + spieler, and player is the usual translation of spieler in English.  P Aculeius (talk) 14:24, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Aculeius, you are absolutely right. I do that all the time, see e.g. my recent entries for, . Finnish, like German, uses a lot of closed compounds, many of which are esentially SOP, and I believe it would be nonsense to have an English entry for each of them. --Hekaheka (talk) 06:50, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

 * You start with Czech tenista and want to go to Polish. Czech tenista contains tennis player as a translation but not Tennisspieler. From the Czech entry, you cannot go to Tennisspieler but you can go to tennis player, and from there to Polish tenisista, which is where you wanted to land. That's the middleman/hub argument. --Dan Polansky (talk) 14:29, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * And it wouldn't simply be easier to include translations under the Czech entry in English Wiktionary, as well as under the German, and the Catalan, and the Polish, than it would be to have an entry in English as the hub, linking to translations in every language. Is that the argument?  That does make some sense, but it would seem to be an argument for having an English entry for every phrase that is regularly expressed as a single word in any other language, even if it never is in English.  Is there any logical or objective criterion for limiting the scope of such a policy?  The number of such entries could easily stretch into the tens of thousands.  I'm not sure that people could be counted on to agree to include only words or phrases of a certain commonness, much less on what meets the definition; if tennista produces a list of equivalents in other language, why not tiddlywinkarista (assuming the term exists)?  P Aculeius (talk) 17:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep - as above. SemperBlotto (talk) 14:35, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There is an entry on the German site for Tennisspieler . Say no more. Donnanz (talk) 14:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep. With basketball player for instance, there's a world of difference between a professional player and someone who just shoots baskets in their driveway for exercise. Shoof (talk) 23:33, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

 * No, that argument has been refuted multiple times. An "amateur tennis player" is still a tennis player, though not a professional. Equinox ◑ 13:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. I note also that it passes the lemming test – the OED has it (as a main entry, not just a sub-entry), as do some other dictionaries. Ƿidsiþ 16:15, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete as SOP, or keep as a translation target. I have always found the tennis player test strange, and I am happy to overturn it (or at least force it to be renamed the "truck driver test" or the "border guard test"). —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 13:49, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as a translation target. (They have a "phrasebook" full of entries like I'd like to kiss you, please repeat after me and I'm illiterate and they'll forever attack poor tennis player.) --Droigheann (talk) 14:25, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
 * RFD kept as no consensus for deletion: >= 12 keep votes. Note that translation target was used often as the keeping rationale, while the "tennis player test" was rejected by multiple participants. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:38, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:tennis player


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ipoestesia

Noun

 * 1)  hypoesthesia

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: ipoestesia


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мустак

Noun

 * 1) moustache

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Talk:eliminate

eliminate
Reality tv sense. This sense seems to be broader than just reality tv, and yet I'm not seeing any of the other senses which describe it well. Perhaps we need to replace it with something else? -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 05:45, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Delete this sense, but replace with something like "to exclude or banish", which is noticably missing. Have added new sense to exclude, which basically means the same thing.--Dmol 06:33, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Delete, far too specific. Should we also have a definition for each of tournaments, voting procedures, case studies, and decision trees? 63.95.64.254 02:07, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed.—msh210 ℠  23:32, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Talk:office de tourisme

office de tourisme
SoP: office + de + tourisme. —Internoob (Talk|Cont.) 20:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Agree. Delete. Even the defn is not correct. If ever we allow tourist information office, then we could reconsider this entry. But until then..... -- A LGRIF  talk 15:21, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Or just tourist information. Delete unless it's useful as a phrasebook entry. 63.95.64.254 02:00, 17 March 2009 (UTC) Abstain. DAVilla 05:31, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * strong keep. It's a set phrase (really!), and this sense of office is not usual in French (the normal term is bureau), except in this phrase, probably derived from English. office du tourisme also exists, and I think that there is a subtle difference between them. I feel that office du tourisme is more usual when the definite article is used, but this is something to be studied more: very helpful linguistic information could and should be given. The former phrase syndicat d'initiative must also be kept, it's impossible to understand it without a definition. Lmaltier 18:14, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Agreed, set phrase, keep. There is also agence de tourisme. —Stephen 19:03, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
 * It's much less clear for agence de tourisme', it might be kept, but I'm not sure. It's difficult to consider it as a set phrase (the set phrase is agence de voyage, or agence de voyages). Lmaltier 21:58, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

No consensus: kept.—msh210 ℠  23:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:office de tourisme


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ipofaringe

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypopharynx, laryngopharynx

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Talk:breakfast in bed

breakfast in bed
User:Muke claimed this is slightly more than SoP upon creating the entry. I disagree. I've had breakfast in bed which I made myself before (Coke and yesterday's pizza which I left on my bedside). --Jackofclubs 14:50, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Weak delete. It's commoner than "lunch in bed", but IMO no more deserving. Equinox ◑ 14:53, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Move to RfV. It's evocative. Perhaps someone can come up with a non-SoP definition and matching quotes that show why the other OneLook dictionaries are wrong to omit it. DCDuring TALK 15:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep since the term is understood to mean that breakfast is prepared specially by someone else. I'm sure I could make breakfast for myself and eat it in bed, but that would be a literal reading, not the default assumption that makes the term somewhat idiomatic. DAVilla 05:46, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's more than the sum of its parts. DAVilla's comment says it well.--Dmol 06:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. Has the specific connotation of being a sort of a treat. Contrary, if you think about it, to sending someone to bed, which is a punishment. bd2412 T 06:53, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Delete. In a good hotel one might order a "breakfast in bed", so it is just breakfast+in+bed. We don't have an entry for a box of chocolates just because somebody might give one to a loved one. --Hekaheka 12:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. That's becauase you can have a box of cornflakes too (but breakfast in chair doesn't quite work).
 * A good hotel? I've never stayed at a hotel where I didn't at least have to get up and open the door for them to give me breakfast. bd2412 T 14:06, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * You obviously haven't stayed at the right hotels. —msh210  ℠  16:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Full disclosure: I am just dying to add an entry for breakfast in chair. Equinox ◑ 22:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep When I make breakfast in bed for someone, I'm actually doing it in the kitchen. —Michael Z. 2009-03-20 15:28 z
 * Keep per DAVilla.—msh210 ℠  16:55, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe a good definition would be [edited]

 * 1) Breakfast for someone still in bed.

—Michael Z. 2009-03-20 21:58 z

 * Weak keep --EncycloPetey 05:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep - A widely used idiom that deserves its own article here. Razorflame 14:25, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Kept. 63.95.64.254 02:53, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

RFV discussion: February 2017
Both the noun and the verb seem SoP to me and also to all the lexicographers who failed to provided entries (even redirects) at. DCDuring TALK 00:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Did you mean to bring this to RFD? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did. Thanks. DCDuring TALK 01:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

 * See WT:RFD. DCDuring TALK 01:39, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Discussion moved to RFD. — SMUconlaw (talk) 03:50, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

RFD discussion: February–August 2017
Both the noun and the verb seem SoP to me and also to all the lexicographers who failed to provided entries (even redirects) at. DCDuring TALK 00:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, per your and DAVilla's comments in the last RFD discussion. If one said "I was served breakfast in bed," it would be an SOP expression, but it's usually used with "have": "I had breakfast in bed," which makes it at least somewhat non-SOP. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 01:57, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

 * Delete as SoP. — SMUconlaw (talk) 03:52, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Try as I might, I cannot perceive any meaning of "breakfast in bed" that is different from "breakfast" + "in bed". Mihia (talk) 04:18, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
 * It's mostly the fact that it heavily implies that one was served breakfast in bed rather than simply eating it there. I'm not strongly opposed to deleting it, but it feels like it's more than SOP. Now, if we had a collocations section, I would be fine with relegating it to there... Andrew Sheedy (talk) 02:29, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep per Andrew, being served is not inherent to any component term. bd2412 T 04:12, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete; having it served is not a necessary part of the definition. Here's a case of someone saying "I had breakfast in bed" when they were alone and had to get it themselves. There are other similar cases. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:42, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Along the same lines many of the instances in this Google Books search are examples in which the server/preparer of breakfast and the one served are the same. The logistics of the situation (How often would I want to get out of bed, make breakfast, then return to bed to eat it?), not the meaning of the words seems to be what makes breakfast in bed normally involve a situation in which someone else is preparing and serving it. DCDuring TALK 18:56, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

 * Keep. Grabbing a bagel and eating it in bed in the morning would not be referred to as "breakfast in bed" (except perhaps humorously). Even if someone brings you a bagel while you're lying in bed, that probably wouldn't count. It implies some sort of fanciness; whether someone is serving you, or you're serving yourself, there is still the idea of service and luxury. --WikiTiki89 20:52, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Maybe in your idiolect, but other people's usage seems different, eg:
 * I have this feeling that there may be other entries, including for true idioms, that need work more than we need to cover every collocation, especially those not covered by any other OneLook reference. DCDuring TALK 22:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I may be misunderstanding you, but it looks to me like these support WikiTiki and my position. They all seem to support idiomaticity, especially the third one. It's clear that she didn't actually make her aunt breakfast while in a bed, but rather prepared her aunt's breakfast to be eaten in bed. In the first quote, "Megan" isn't taking breakfast while in bed, but rather taking breakfast in bed to her parents and for herself. Between those three quotes, I'd say there's an even stronger case for idiomaticity than I had thought. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 03:22, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Wikitiki made the point that point that there was some connotation of fanciness and being served (though he backed away from both elements, in the end merely claiming that the term implied luxury even when the service was by oneself and the food was simple).
 * There is some kind of connotation, but only because of the pragmatics, the situations in which one is likely to have breakfast in bed. But many collocations have some kind of connotations, often, as here, simply because of the situations in which they are used.
 * Should romantic dinner have an entry? For that matter, should oyster have a separate definition because of its connotational association with sex (It's a supposed afrodisiac.). DCDuring TALK 15:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't really understand what you're trying to say. What I was trying to say is that it has a specific connotation of luxury and/or service or something like that. When in reality there is no luxury or service, the use of this phrase is ironic. Oysters may sometimes have an association with sex, but when they don't there is no irony. --WikiTiki89 20:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think it should! If you look up romance and dinner you find "An intimate relationship between two people; a love affair." and "The main meal of the day, often eaten in the evening.". This doesn't even come close to explaining dimmed lights, rose petals, candle lights, fine wine and smooth music. As for the oyster, that still refers to a mollusc. It's aphrodisiac (it's aphrodisiac right? I'm not a native speaker and you are so now I'm confused) properties belong on Wikipedia in that case. I would have voted keep if this hadn't been decided yet. W3ird N3rd (talk) 02:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Should romantic dinner have an entry? For that matter, should oyster have a separate definition because of its connotational association with sex (It's a supposed afrodisiac.). DCDuring TALK 15:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't really understand what you're trying to say. What I was trying to say is that it has a specific connotation of luxury and/or service or something like that. When in reality there is no luxury or service, the use of this phrase is ironic. Oysters may sometimes have an association with sex, but when they don't there is no irony. --WikiTiki89 20:34, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Actually, I think it should! If you look up romance and dinner you find "An intimate relationship between two people; a love affair." and "The main meal of the day, often eaten in the evening.". This doesn't even come close to explaining dimmed lights, rose petals, candle lights, fine wine and smooth music. As for the oyster, that still refers to a mollusc. It's aphrodisiac (it's aphrodisiac right? I'm not a native speaker and you are so now I'm confused) properties belong on Wikipedia in that case. I would have voted keep if this hadn't been decided yet. W3ird N3rd (talk) 02:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

 * I think that cases like these would be easier to resolve if a "set phrases" exemption to the SoP rule could somehow be framed. Mihia (talk) 02:43, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep: per Andrew, BD and Wikitiki Pur ple back pack 89  04:52, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion: 4:3 (keep:delete). --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:12, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

the usage-example
I couldnt find any information about this supposed custom of small children delivering breakfast to their mother's bedside each morning in NZ and the Netherlands. This isnt Wikipedia, so a use-example doesnt need to contain factual information, but I still think it's misleading if it's false but worded in such a formal way. If we're making up a fictional custom, maybe we should put it in a fictional nation too? Something like Bedlandia that presumably nobody would mistake for a real place. Either that, or change the sentence out completely for something that actually is true. Best regards, — Soap — 15:08, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

title: Talk:breakfast in bed


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Talk:in a jiffy

in a jiffy
Entry claims idiomaticity but I disagree. I'll be there in a jiffy, in a minute, in a few seconds, in just a tick, in half a mo, in a year or two. It's just use of the existing sense at in ("after a period of time"). Equinox ◑ 15:21, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Delete. See also e.g.—msh210  ℠  16:51, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I’ve never heard "for a jiffy" and would think anyone who said or wrote it a foreigner. in a jiffy is an extremely common adverb and we should have it. Keep. —Stephen 20:37, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Do you think it's somehow distinct from my other examples above (in a minute etc.), or do you perhaps think that those other examples deserve entries? What is the difference? Equinox ◑ 23:52, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep per Stephen G. Brown. msh210's link has demonstrated that for some speakers, jiffy: means " A very short, unspecified length of time." (as our entry for it says), but personally, I'd never encountered that sense outside of this expression (which is common in the Midwest) and a few proper nouns, and until now it never occurred to me that Jiffy Lube's name was trying to convey something. Stephen's comment tells me that his experience is similar. —Ruakh TALK 00:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. Idiomaticity seems clear to me as has been demonstrated in that the word jiffy is virtually non-existent outside of this phrase. __meco 11:13, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * For something to "take a jiffy" is very common. Equinox ◑ 22:09, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Hmmm, I've never heard it. I would say semi-strong keep if in a jiffy is the origin of the meaning of jiffy, if the phrase had existed before the word was used independently, although I'm honestly not sure how we handle those situations. Otherwise semi-weak keep because jiffy is less well known and therefore could have contextual information that differs from that of the phrase. 63.95.64.254 02:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Strong keep per meco. As I've said elsewhere, this tendency of treating words/senses which only occur in one or two set phrases by defining them at the words' entries and deleting those set phrases as SoP's is possibly understandable but certainly anything but helpful to a user. --Duncan 12:48, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Strong keep. An idiomatic prepositional phrase. -- A LGRIF  talk 17:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep, as above. Mglovesfun 23:46, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Kept. 63.95.64.254 00:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:in a jiffy


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Talk:越國

越國
Wiktionary is not a place for, well, names of places. The user who created this solely did it for the purpose of linking to it from Wikipedia, which is inappropriate according to WP policies anyway. 75.79.43.199 23:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Certainly we want place names. Besides, it was not linked to Wikipedia until I just now did so. Without a dictionary entry, students of Chinese cannot read and understand a text containing this word. This is the only place that gives the pronunciation, meaning, meaning of each character, and dignation as simplified or traditional. Keep. —Stephen 00:57, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. All words in all languages. We have hundreds of place names and need them for translantions. (For the record, I actually think that every place name on earth is valid for inclusion, certainly down to the city size at least)--Dmol 01:05, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. Not making a judgment as to "all place names", but this is a state-level entity. Definitely include all of those. bd2412 T 02:08, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep While I have my reservations about placenames in general, I agree that state level placenames deserve entries.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 04:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Strong keep per unwritten rules. States and provinces (at the very least) are included. Once an entry is valid it will always be valid for all time. 63.95.64.254 02:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep per Dmol. I don't believe that we should have entries for every placename, but we should have some for the bigger cities :P.  Cheers, Razorflame 14:24, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep for the reasons cited above. Mglovesfun 23:45, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Kept. 63.95.64.254 23:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:越國


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Talk:vacuüm

vacuüm
The English section. All quotes are from Dutch speakers that probably hypercorrected, using the Dutch form in English. (Note that Wim is a common Dutch name.) H. (talk) 21:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep, possibly with a dialect marker to place in Category:Netherlandic English if that's where the majority of the usage is coming from.  I use the two syllable pronunciation of vacuum myself, but the three syllable variant is well attested.  While the use of the diaeresis is largely absent from English today, it's still valid to indicate adjoining but separated vowel sounds, and certainly vacuüm is no less proper to include as an alternate spelling than blessèd. — Carolina wren discussió  02:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 02:35, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Category:Netherlands English I think, unless Netherlandic English is standard terminology. —Michael Z. 2009-04-07 03:13 z

 * If there is a standard term for Dutch-influenced English, it is probably Dutch English. — Carolina wren discussió 04:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Dutch also refers to the people and their language, while Netherlands is unambiguously a geographic label. —Michael Z. 2009-04-07 04:11 z

 * Hold on a sec, we need to be careful here. If there's a body of  native  English speakers in the Netherlands, with their own quirks, then that's something worth documenting.  If, on the other hand (and I rather think this more likely), there are a bunch of Dutch speakers who have learned English as a second language, and added some quirks to it from their native tongue, then I don't think Wiktionary should give two shits about that (others are free to disagree, of course).  I think we're only concerned with native tongues here.  If, and this may well be quite difficult to prove, one way or the other, these quotes are from native Dutch speakers, then I think Hamaryns' point is valid, and this entry should be deleted.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 05:08, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * But we include Chinglish, Spanglish, Singlish, etc. How is this any different? DAVilla 02:57, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. "All words in all languages" comes to mind here. The word is used, correctly or not, by some of the English-speaking population who happen to be Dutch. I suggest a usage note, stating that it is predominantly used this way in the Netherlands, (and I suspect in other places in Europe where English is not the first language). English is very well spoken in the Netherlands, especially amongst the young where it is almost univerally understood.--Dmol 06:57, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

 * But well and natively are two very different things. "English-speaking population" is, I think, a rather misleading phrase.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 07:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, and from all the cites given (and under assumption that the authors are Dutchies, and therefore don't have English as a native tongue), this is just a (frequent?) error by Dutchies. I'd be worried if we started putting in here errors that non-native speakers make, no matter how well-educated they may be. --Jackofclubs 09:11, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thoughts, keep. I have reread WT:CFI, and was aghast to discover there was in fact nothing in there about disallowing English words used by Dutchies in permanently recorded media. --Jackofclubs 16:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep Only “native English” counts is a fallacy.
 * WT:CFI says nothing about “native English”, and there is no way of knowing whether many authors are native English speakers or not. Wiktionary has hundreds of quotes by non-native anglophones, and there's no way to identify and remove them.  What about the ones we can identify?  Joseph Conrad, for example, wasn't a native English speaker – is someone trying to disqualify Heart of Darkness as an attestable source?
 * Welcome to the 21st century of English as a second language. English-speaking countries nos. 2 and 3 are India and Nigeria and no. 5 is the Philippines.  That's over two hundred million speakers, very few of them are first-language anglophones.  Every country in the world will have English regionalisms, and if they're attested, then we should document them.  Be careful what you call an error.
 * If all of the attestations are Dutch, then we label the term or sense as restricted to the Netherlands, and date the etymology 1981 or whatever. Whether you consider the term an embarrassing national error, or a new buzzword to drop over herring and waffles, is completely up to you. —Michael Z. 2009-04-07 10:07 z

 * If properly tagged, keep all words in all languages. If you want to be proper then restrict yourself to the Queen's English, but even the OED doesn't do that. DAVilla 00:44, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep but properly tagged as a misspelling, not as a spelling of some fictitious "Dutch English" or "Netherlands English". Angr 11:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Definitely not a misspelling. I'll grant that persons who are not influenced by the Dutch spelling are not likely to use the optional diaeresis on vacuum, especially if they use the two syllable pronunciation instead of the three syllable one, but it is a perfectly valid alternate spelling. — Carolina wren discussió  17:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * What makes you say "definitely not a misspelling"? Is it sanctioned by any dictionary? Angr 08:37, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not a misspelling since the use of a diaeresis to indicate adjacent vowel sounds are in separate syllables (i.e. va-cu-um instead of va-cuum) is a well documented option in English. It would only be a misspelling if the writer used /ˈvækjuːm/ and not /ˈvækjuəm/ as eir pronunciation. — Carolina wren discussió 20:07, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't know if using any sort of rules to defend English spelling will get you very far. As English spelling is largely etymological (as opposed to phonetic), there really are no rules, only history.  Diaereses are basically obsolete in American English (with a few rare exceptions, such as naïve, which is probably on its way to extinction, in favour of naive), although I can't really make any claims about any other English.  Thus, the spelling "vacuüm" would certainly look quite odd to an American English speaker.  Obviously it is heavily influenced by the Dutch spelling/is the Dutch spelling/is there really a difference?  I don't think that we've really figured out what the difference between an alternative spelling and a misspelling are on Wiktionary, and the distinction is usually made somewhat haphazardly, based on frequency and tradition.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 21:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Dictionaries these days are documentary. I don't think any of them take the role of “sanctioning” usage, although I believe the AHD does add usage recommendations based on a panel of experts to some entries.  Other dictionaries do have constraints on research budgets, the existence of corpora, and limits on the size of print publications, so they are quite unlikely to try to document English regionalisms in places like Holland.
 * But according to Netherlands, 70% of Netherlanders “have good knowledge of English,” so how could a community of 11.5 million anglophones in a small country not develop some of their own regionalisms? And if they do, then why should we ban them from our dictionary? —Michael Z. 2009-04-11 18:25 z

Kept per WT:BP discussion. DAVilla 05:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:vacuüm


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Talk:stand by

stand by
As in "stand by your man". Not a phrasal verb in this sense, exemplify at stand. DAVilla 06:09, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I would disagree. She "stood by" him through his long illness and recovery does not mean literally standing anywhere. It is therefore idiomatic. To place this at "stand" would involve saying that it only has this meaning with "by", that is to say, it is a phrasal verb. Most other dictionaries agree with this view as far as I can see, some even separating "stand by" a decision, and "stand by" a person. -- A LGRIF  talk 21:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Retracted, not sure what I was thinking. DAVilla 22:37, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Translations to be checked

 * "German: stehen Sie bereit, bereitstehen (de)"

Both are fine for "To wait in expectation of some event", but not for the other two meanings. "stehen Sie bereit" means "stand by", when one person speaks to another person (singular) or other persons (plural), i.e. a imperative form. "to stand by" is "bereitstehen", i.e. the infinitive form. 93.196.246.93 14:14, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

RFD discussion: February 2021–January 2022
Rfd-redundant redundant to 84.228.239.108 21:10, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
 * (intransitive) to be ready to provide assistance if required
 * (idiomatic, intransitive) To wait in expectation of some event; to make ready.

 * Keep, I think. As I read them, they are distinctly different. The usex "The tug stood by in case it was needed." is a good one. DonnanZ (talk) 22:26, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
 * In fact it was me who added this sense. diff DonnanZ (talk) 22:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Keep — Dentonius 18:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment. "to make ready" is not intransitive in normal English, and presumably it should say "to be ready"? Anyway, I changed it, but please delete it or do something else with it if you prefer. Mihia (talk) 20:29, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I see you altered sense 1, but you don't say whether sense 1 or sense 5 should deleted. If, say, a riot squad stands by in expectation of a riot, they wouldn't be providing assistance if one occurred, it would be more like a battle. If a fire brigade stood by, it could be because a fire may flare up again. An airport fire tender can stand by to assist in any potential accident at a moment's notice. DonnanZ (talk) 21:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, my comment may have been unclear. By "delete it or do something else with it" I was referring only to the part sense "to make/be ready", not to either sense in full. I feel unsure at the moment about the distinctness of the two senses overall. Mihia (talk) 22:14, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Delete "To be ready to provide assistance if required" is an overspecialization of "To wait in expectation of some event". Make/get/be ready is a sometime accompaniment, not a part of the general definition "To wait in expectation of an event". DCDuring (talk) 00:35, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Imetsia (talk) 23:51, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

 * Combine the two into one line: * (idiomatic, intransitive) To wait in expectation of some event; to make ready to provide assistance if required. bd2412 T 03:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as overspecified, unless you can find a dictionary that makes this a subdefinition, where we would then need the others. DAVilla 09:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

RFD-deleted. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 03:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:stand by


text:
Talk:Acinonychinae

Acinonychinae
The subfamily is now obsolete and Felinae has taken its place. 98.166.139.216 22:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

 * That doesn't mean we should delete the entry: it's still a word (and presumably a word that occurs in plenty of scientific literature); we just need to gloss it as obsolete and mention the new one as its replacement. Equinox ◑ 22:18, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Kept. DAVilla 08:14, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:Acinonychinae


text:
ipofisectomia

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypophysectomy

title: ipofisectomia


text:
ipofosfito

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypophosphite

title: ipofosfito


text: colgadas

title: colgadas


text: colgados

title: colgados


text: colgada

title: colgada


text:
ipogammaglobulinemia

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypogammaglobulinemia

title: ipogammaglobulinemia


text:
gammaglobulinemia

Noun

 * 1)  The presence of gamma globulin in the bloodstream.

Etymology
From.

title: gammaglobulinemia


text:
noguera

Etymology
From , from.

Noun

 * 1) walnut tree

Etymology
, from. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) walnut (tree)

title: noguera


text: nogueras

title: nogueras


text:
lánguido

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) languid, weak

title: lánguido


text: lánguidos

title: lánguidos


text: lánguidas

title: lánguidas


text: lánguida

title: lánguida


text: glucagoni

title: glucagoni


text: gluconati

title: gluconati


text: gorgogliamenti

title: gorgogliamenti


text: insulinomi

title: insulinomi


text: premedicazioni

title: premedicazioni


text: volemie

title: volemie


text: ipocapnie

title: ipocapnie


text: ipocentri

title: ipocentri


text: ipochilie

title: ipochilie


text: glucagonica

title: glucagonica


text: ipocicloidi

title: ipocicloidi


text: glucagonici

title: glucagonici


text: glucagoniche

title: glucagoniche


text: cicloidi

title: cicloidi


text: gommifera

title: gommifera


text: gommiferi

title: gommiferi


text: ipocloridrie

title: ipocloridrie


text: gommifere

title: gommifere


text: ipocondri

title: ipocondri


text: idrosalina

title: idrosalina


text: idrosalini

title: idrosalini


text: ipoestesie

title: ipoestesie


text: idrosaline

title: idrosaline


text: iliaca

title: iliaca


text:
hyperforeign

Etymology
1933, 1983 . From. Compare /.

Adjective

 * 1)  Resulting from the misapplication of foreign reading rules, such as dropping the ‘t’ in claret.
 * 2) * 1970, Joshua Blau, On Pseudo-Corrections in Some Semitic Languages, Israel Academy of Sciences and Humanities, p 17:
 * Half-literate persons, who try, without proper knowledge, to pronounce a foreign language, are apt to coin hyper-foreign forms, a special kind of hyper-correction.
 * 1) * 1973, Milton L. Boyle, Jr, untitled book review in Journal of Biblical Literature, v 92:
 * [pp 309–10] Professor Blau combines his thorough grounding in linguistics with vast knowledge of Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and related languages to alert scholars to the occurrence of a phenomenon he terms “pseudo-corrections” in Semitic language texts. The term is a general one encompassing largely hyper-corrections which have been studied for some time in the Indo-European languages. Hyper-corrections occur when a speaker, or writer, attempts to correct his own speech by using forms from another speech which he regards as more prestigious, or “higher” than his own. When he uses a “higher” form incorrectly, producing a form that is correct in neither the “higher” nor “lower” speech, the form is called a hyper-correction by linguists.
 * [p 310] Blau indicates that other pseudo-corrections may occur as the result of spelling pronunciations, reversal of sound shifts (regression), and may be found in hyper-foreign form, “inverted calques,” inverse spelling, and “literary pseudo-corrections” which are correct linguistically but incorrect stylistically.
 * [p 310] Blau indicates that other pseudo-corrections may occur as the result of spelling pronunciations, reversal of sound shifts (regression), and may be found in hyper-foreign form, “inverted calques,” inverse spelling, and “literary pseudo-corrections” which are correct linguistically but incorrect stylistically.

title: hyperforeign


text: ipofaringi

title: ipofaringi


text: iliaci

title: iliaci


text: iliache

title: iliache


text: ipofisectomie

title: ipofisectomie


text: impositori

title: impositori


text: impositrice

title: impositrice


text: ipofosfiti

title: ipofosfiti


text: impositrici

title: impositrici


text: ipogammaglobulinemie

title: ipogammaglobulinemie


text: inaccurata

title: inaccurata


text: inaccurati

title: inaccurati


text: gammaglobulinemie

title: gammaglobulinemie


text: indoeuropea

title: indoeuropea


text: indoeuropei

title: indoeuropei


text: indoeuropee

title: indoeuropee


text: ingiuntiva

title: ingiuntiva


text: ingiuntivi

title: ingiuntivi


text: ingiuntive

title: ingiuntive


text:
trastienda

Noun

 * 1) backroom room located in the rear of a shop

title: trastienda


text: ipercorrettiva

title: ipercorrettiva


text: ipercorrettivi

title: ipercorrettivi


text: ipercorrettive

title: ipercorrettive


text: iperglucidica

title: iperglucidica


text: iperglucidici

title: iperglucidici


text: iperglucidiche

title: iperglucidiche


text: iperosmolari

title: iperosmolari


text: herkenbare

title: herkenbare


text: presinaptica

title: presinaptica


text: presinaptici

title: presinaptici


text: presinaptiche

title: presinaptiche


text: postsinaptica

title: postsinaptica


text: postsinaptici

title: postsinaptici


text: postsinaptiche

title: postsinaptiche


text: stomatica

title: stomatica


text: stomatici

title: stomatici


text: stomatiche

title: stomatiche


text: tensiva

title: tensiva


text: tensivi

title: tensivi


text: revolucionarios

title: revolucionarios


text: revolucionarias

title: revolucionarias


text: revolucionaria

title: revolucionaria


text: definidos

title: definidos


text: definidas

title: definidas


text: definida

title: definida


text: quebrantos

title: quebrantos


text: canarios

title: canarios


text: canarias

title: canarias


text:
rewicker

Verb

 * 1) To redo the wickerwork, as the wicker seat of a piece of furniture
 * So as to be able to use them for years to come, Susan decided to rewicker Grandma Rose's old dining room table chairs.
 * 1) To rework, update, redo, reformulate; especially in the case of a multi themed, or woven, product.
 * After learning more details of the customer's needs, the team felt it was important to rewicker the proposal.

title: rewicker


text:
pestilencia

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) pestilence

title: pestilencia


text:
rybařit

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to fish to try to catch fish
 * 2)  contact with the net

title: rybařit


text: tardía

title: tardía


text: tardíos

title: tardíos


text: tardías

title: tardías


text:
polvoriento

Adjective

 * 1) dusty

title: polvoriento


text: polvorienta

title: polvorienta


text: polvorientos

title: polvorientos


text: polvorientas

title: polvorientas


text: pronósticos

title: pronósticos


text: evocaba

title: evocaba


text: evocabais

title: evocabais


text: evocaban

title: evocaban


text: evocabas

title: evocabas


text: evocad

title: evocad


text: evocada

title: evocada


text: evocadas

title: evocadas


text: evocado

title: evocado


text: evocados

title: evocados


text: bananeros

title: bananeros


text: evocamos

title: evocamos


text: evocan

title: evocan


text: bananera

title: bananera


text: bananeras

title: bananeras


text: evocara

title: evocara


text: evocarais

title: evocarais


text: evocaran

title: evocaran


text: evocaras

title: evocaras


text:
five-and-twenty

Numeral

 * 1)   Twenty-five.

Usage notes

 * is used by some older speakers instead of when referring to that many minutes before or after the hour, as in.

title: five-and-twenty


text: evocareis

title: evocareis


text: evocaremos

title: evocaremos


text: evocaren

title: evocaren


text: espinillas

title: espinillas


text: evocares

title: evocares


text: evocaron

title: evocaron


text: evocará

title: evocará


text: evocarán

title: evocarán


text: evocarás

title: evocarás


text: evocaré

title: evocaré


text: evocaréis

title: evocaréis


text: evocaría

title: evocaría


text: evocaríais

title: evocaríais


text: evocaríamos

title: evocaríamos


text: evocarían

title: evocarían


text:
plutarchy

Noun

 * 1) rule by the wealthy; plutocracy

title: plutarchy


text: evocarías

title: evocarías


text: evocas

title: evocas


text: evocase

title: evocase


text: evocaseis

title: evocaseis


text: evocasen

title: evocasen


text: evocases

title: evocases


text: evocasteis

title: evocasteis


text: evocábamos

title: evocábamos


text: evocáis

title: evocáis


text: evocáramos

title: evocáramos


text: evocáremos

title: evocáremos


text: evocásemos

title: evocásemos


text: evocó

title: evocó


text: evoque

title: evoque


text: evoquemos

title: evoquemos


text: evoquen

title: evoquen


text: evoques

title: evoques


text: evoqué

title: evoqué


text: evoquéis

title: evoquéis


text: næses

title: næses


text: næsens

title: næsens


text: næsers

title: næsers


text: næsernes

title: næsernes


text:
մալադեց

Etymology
From.

Interjection

 * 1)  attaboy!, well done!

title: մալադեց


text:
szabadrúgás

Noun

 * 1) free kick

title: szabadrúgás


text: szabadrúgások

title: szabadrúgások


text:
ապրես

Interjection

 * 1) attaboy!, well done!

title: ապրես


text:
刺青

Verb

 * 1) to tattoo

Etymology 1
The kanji is, from.

Noun

 * 1) tattoo

title: 刺青


text:
paquistaní

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Pakistani

Noun

 * 1) Pakistani

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) * Pakistán: Talibán se atribuye atentado, BBC Mundo, 2009-05-28
 * "es"
 * "es"

- ...el ataque fue perpetrado en respuesta a la ofensiva del ejército paquistaní en el Valle de Swat...

title: paquistaní


text:
User:The Ice Mage/Leaflets, ingredients and other sundries/Kinder toy hazard

 * This is currently incomplete.
 * Due to poor ordering on the original thing the languages are not in alphabetical order. 50 Xylophone Players talk 18:08, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

English
Warning, read and keep: Toy not suitable for children under 3 years. Small parts might be swallowed or inhaled.

German
Lesen und aufbewahren: Warnhinweis! Nicht für Kinder unter 3 Jahren geeignet da Spielzeug oder Kleinteile verschluckt oder eingeatmet werden können.

Italian
Attenzione leggere e conservare: Le parti piccole potrebbero essere ingerite o inalate.

French
Attention, à lire et à conserver: Les petites pièces pourraient être avalées ou inhalées.

Dutch
Opgelet, lezen en bewaren: De kleine stukjes kunnen ingeslikt of opgesnoven worden.

Romanian
Atenţie, de citit şi reţinut: Pǎrţile mici pot fi înghiţite sau inhalate.

Macedonian
Внимание, читај и зачувај: Ситните делови можат да бидат проголтани или вдишани.

Finnish
Huomio, lue ja säilytä: Pienet osat voivat juuttua kurkkuun tai nenään.

Swedish
Obs läs och behåll: Små delar kan fastna i halsen eller näsan.

Danish
Obs læs og opbevar: Smådele kan sætte sig fast i hals eller næse.

Kazakh
Назар аударыңы, оқыңыз жене еске сақтыңыз: усак бөлшектерін жутып коюы немесе тыныс жолдарына турып қалуымумкін.

Something of note
Kazakh seems to use at least 2 letters which we don't have entries for yet:

Ң/ң      and       Қ/қ

Greek
Προσοχη να διαβάσετε και να φυλάξετε. Περιέχει μικρά κομμάτια που μπορεί να εισπνεύσουν.

Αlbanian
Kujdes, lexo dhe kujto: Pjëset e vogla mund të gëlltiten ose futen në rrugët e frymëmarrjes


text:
szabadúszó

Adjective

 * 1) freelance

Noun

 * 1) freelancer

title: szabadúszó


text: szabadúszók

title: szabadúszók


text:
habiline

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A specimen of the now extinct species.

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to habilines.
 * 2) * 1995, Johan Matheus Gerardus van der Dennen, The Origin of War: The Evolution of a Male-Coalitional Reproductive Strategy, Origin Press, page 572:
 * Sexual division of labor may be as old as the habiline hominids (H. habilis, ± 2.5 mya), who in all probability practiced a flexible subsistence strategy of "ecological opportunism optimized by tool use"[…].
 * Sexual division of labor may be as old as the habiline hominids (H. habilis, ± 2.5 mya), who in all probability practiced a flexible subsistence strategy of "ecological opportunism optimized by tool use"[…].

title: habiline


text:
Szabina

Proper noun

 * 1) Sabina.

title: Szabina


text: düğümü

title: düğümü


text: düğümler

title: düğümler


text:
ridiculez

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) ridiculousness

title: ridiculez


text: erkeği

title: erkeği


text: erkekler

title: erkekler


text: alhajis

title: alhajis


text:
oncome

Etymology 1
From, from , , from , equivalent to. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  To arrive; come to; come on.

Etymology 2
From, equivalent to. Compare 🇨🇬. More at,.

Noun

 * 1) Advent, arrival, approach; onset.
 * 2) The commencement or initial stages of a business, especially of one which requires great exertion.
 * 3) The setting about of an action; development; progress.
 * 4) An attack; an attack or onset of a disease, fit, or episode.
 * 5)  A mysterious disease or ailment.
 * 6)  A heavy fall of rain or snow; cloudburst.
 * 7)  The lower edge of a fire-clay lining piece.
 * 1)  A mysterious disease or ailment.
 * 2)  A heavy fall of rain or snow; cloudburst.
 * 3)  The lower edge of a fire-clay lining piece.
 * 1)  The lower edge of a fire-clay lining piece.

Noun

 * 1) advent, arrival (of)
 * but thir is nae mair an the oncome o birth-thraws --Mark 13, W.L. Lorimer translation

title: oncome


text:
auriculares

Noun

 * 1) headphones
 * 2) earphones

title: auriculares


text:
proctite

Noun

 * 1) proctitis

Noun

 * 1)  proctitis

title: proctite


text:
autosómico

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) autosomal

title: autosómico


text: chemins de fer

title: chemins de fer


text:
benzfetamina

Noun

 * 1)  benzphetamine

title: benzfetamina


text:
alhaji

Etymology 2
From.

Noun

 * 1)  title of respect, often used as a shorthand for a businessman from Northern Nigeria.

Etymology
From (with the definite article).

Noun

 * 1)  hajji one who has been a pilgrim to Mecca, usually used as a title

Usage notes
As a title, usually pronounced with a short final vowel, and placed before any other titles.

Etymology
(with the definite article).

Noun

 * 1)  hajji one who has been a pilgrim to Mecca, usually used as a title

title: alhaji


text:
alhajia

Noun

 * 1)  A woman who has made a religious pilgrimage to Mecca

title: alhajia


text:
benzphetamine

Noun

 * 1)  An anti-obesity drug.

Translations

 * Spanish: benzfetamina

title: benzphetamine


text:
robivecchi

Etymology
From Romanesco, cry of junk dealers; compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) a second-hand or junk dealer
 * 2) a ragpicker

title: robivecchi


text:
sassofonista

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) saxophonist

title: sassofonista


text:
rocchetto

Etymology 1
From

Noun

 * 1) spool of thread, or of a fishing rod
 * 2)  reel
 * 3)  coil
 * 4)  shuttle part of a loom that carries the woof back and forth between the warp threads
 * 1)  shuttle part of a loom that carries the woof back and forth between the warp threads

Etymology 2
.

Noun

 * 1)  rochet garment worn over the choir cassock by cardinals, bishops and certain other dignitaries

title: rocchetto


text: saxofonisti

title: saxofonisti


text: saxofoniste

title: saxofoniste


text:
rocciatore

Noun

 * 1) rock climber

title: rocciatore


text:
ore tenus

Etymology

 * Medieval Latin oretenus

Adjective

 * 1)  Of testimony, presented orally.

title: ore tenus


text:
rock climber

Noun

 * 1) A person who takes part in rock climbing

Translations

 * Irish: ailleadóir, speancaire
 * Italian:
 * Russian: ,
 * Spanish: ,

title: rock climber


text:
curium bromide

Noun

 * 1)  The curium salt of hydrobromic acid, CmBr3

title: curium bromide


text:
roco

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  parasol mushroom

Usage notes
The same species are known as and  when their "parasol" is still closed.

Etymology
From. , a borrowing.

Adjective

 * 1) hoarse, throaty

Adjective

 * 1)  old

title: roco


text:
cycle time

Noun

 * 1)  The total elapsed time to complete an operation or set of operations.
 * Order cycle time can now be minutes from when the customer starts entering an order to when it is visible to the warehouse.
 * Production cycle time is not as important as the time spent in transit.
 * Design cycle time for an all-new state-of-the-art compressor is still years from go-ahead to readiness for manufacture.

title: cycle time


text: cycle times

title: cycle times


text:
Citations:US Americans

 * 2006, Johannes Wilm, On the margins: US Americans in a border town to Mexico
 * 2007, Caitlin Upton, 2007 Miss Teen USA pageant:
 * I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, people out there in our nation don't have maps ...
 * 2006, Johannes Wilm, On the margins: US Americans in a border town to Mexico
 * 2007, Caitlin Upton, 2007 Miss Teen USA pageant:
 * I personally believe that U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, people out there in our nation don't have maps ...

title: Citations:US Americans


text:
romanico

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Romanesque

title: romanico


text: proctiti

title: proctiti


text: sassofonisti

title: sassofonisti


text: sassofoniste

title: sassofoniste


text: rocchetti

title: rocchetti


text: rocciatori

title: rocciatori


text: rochi

title: rochi


text: romanica

title: romanica


text: romanici

title: romanici


text: romaniche

title: romaniche


text:
Citations:Usonians

 * Inhabitants of the United States of America

 * Usonian-style houses

 * Residents of the Wrightian community of Usonia

title: Citations:Usonians


text:
get the drop on

Verb

 * 1)  To point one's firearm at another person, thereby gaining dominance in a situation.
 * He got the drop on them and proceeded to shoot and kill them before they could fire a shot or respond.
 * 1)  To obtain an advantage over another person, by acting before that person.

title: get the drop on


text:
hand in glove

Adverb

 * 1)  In very close cooperation.

title: hand in glove


text:
hand-in-glove

Adjective

 * 1)  Closely cooperative.

Translations

 * Italian: culo e camicia
 * Russian:, плечо́м к плечу́

title: hand-in-glove


text:
boyfriendless

Adjective

 * 1) Without a boyfriend.

title: boyfriendless


text:
girlfriendless

Adjective

 * 1) Without a girlfriend.

title: girlfriendless


text:
progestinico

Adjective

 * 1)  progestagen; progestinic, progestogenic

Noun

 * 1)  progestagen, gestagen

title: progestinico


text:
User:Edcolins

See w:User:Edcolins.

de:User:Edcolins fr:User:Edcolins

title: User:Edcolins


text:
prolasso

Noun

 * 1)  prolapse

title: prolasso


text:
off the reservation

Etymology
From.

Prepositional phrase

 * 1)  Violating rules or decorum; out of bounds.
 * 2)  Having broken with one's party or group, usually temporarily.

title: off the reservation


text:
proptosi

Noun

 * 1)  proptosis

title: proptosi


text: cathares

title: cathares


text:
prostatismo

Noun

 * 1)  prostatism

title: prostatismo


text:
prostatite

Noun

 * 1)  prostatitis

Noun

 * 1)  prostatitis

Noun

 * 1)  prostatitis inflammation of the prostate

title: prostatite


text:
tjod

Etymology
From, from , cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  a people, nation

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognate with 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  a people, nation

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognate with 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  a people, nation

title: tjod


text:
Munroist

Noun

 * 1)  One who has climbed all of the Munros (Scottish mountains of more than 3,000 feet in height).

title: Munroist


text:
protrombina

Noun

 * 1)  prothrombin

Noun

 * 1)  prothrombin a glycoprotein produced in the liver

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  prothrombin

title: protrombina


text:
trombina

Noun

 * 1)  thrombin

Etymology
, coined by A. Schmidt in 1892; equivalent to.

Noun

 * 1)  thrombin

title: trombina


text:
euglobulin lysis time

Noun

 * 1)  A blood test that measures the amount of time required for a clot to break down in the blood.

title: euglobulin lysis time


text:
protozoo

Noun

 * 1)  protozoan

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  protozoan

title: protozoo


text:
pseudomembranoso

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) pseudomembranous

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) pseudomembranous

title: pseudomembranoso


text:
antirumore

Adjective

 * 1) antinoise

title: antirumore


text:
fetoproteína

Noun

 * 1)  fetoprotein

title: fetoproteína


text:
prostático

Adjective

 * 1) prostatic

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) prostatic

title: prostático


text:
aromatasa

Noun

 * 1)  aromatase

title: aromatasa


text:
bacteriorodopsina

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  bacteriorhodopsin

title: bacteriorodopsina


text:
rodopsina

Noun

 * 1)  rhodopsin a light-sensitive pigment in the rod cells of the retina

Noun

 * 1)  rhodopsin

title: rodopsina


text:
birrefringencia

Noun

 * 1) birefringence

title: birrefringencia


text:
calmodulina

Noun

 * 1)  calmodulin

title: calmodulina


text:
caseína

Noun

 * 1)  casein

Etymology
Formed from +.

Noun

 * 1)  casein

Noun

 * 1)  casein

title: caseína


text:
caspasa

Noun

 * 1)  caspase

title: caspasa


text: adverses

title: adverses


text:
euglobulin

Noun

 * 1)  A fraction of serum proteins obtained as a precipitate by adjusting salt levels and pH.

title: euglobulin


text:
ipogonadotropo

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) hypogonadotropic

title: ipogonadotropo


text:
ipoidrosi

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypohidrosis, anhidrosis

title: ipoidrosi


text:
ipomagnesiemia

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hypomagnesemia

title: ipomagnesiemia


text:
magnesiemia

Noun

 * 1)  magnesemia

title: magnesiemia


text:
magnesemia

Etymology
=.

Noun

 * 1)  The  of  in the, and (usually, especially) the  (that is, its ).

Derived terms

 * , that is,

Translations

 * French: magnésémie
 * Spanish: magnesemia

title: magnesemia


text:
iponitrito

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hyponitrite

title: iponitrito


text:
iponutrizione

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  hyponutrition, undernutrition

title: iponutrizione


text:
hyponutrition

Noun

 * 1) undernutrition

Derived terms

 * hyponutritional

Translations

 * Italian: iponutrizione

title: hyponutrition


text:
ipoosmolare

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) hypoosmolar

title: ipoosmolare


text:
osmolare

Adjective

 * 1) osmolar

title: osmolare


text:
osmolar

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to osmolarity

Translations

 * Italian: osmolare

title: osmolar


text:
deduplication

Noun

 * 1) The act of removing duplication or redundancy
 * 2)  The elimination of redundant duplicate data.
 * 3)  The division of that which is morphologically one organ into two or more, such as the division of an organ of a plant into a pair or cluster.

title: deduplication


text:
ipoparatiroidismo

Noun

 * 1)  hypoparathyroidism

title: ipoparatiroidismo


text:
ipopituitarismo

Noun

 * 1)  hypopituitarism

title: ipopituitarismo


text:
ipopnea

Noun

 * 1)  hypopnea

title: ipopnea


text:
iporchema

Noun

 * 1) hyporchema

title: iporchema


text:
hyporchema

Noun

 * 1) A form of ancient Greek choral song accompanied by dance

Translations

 * Italian: iporchema

title: hyporchema


text:
niedostępny

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) unavailable
 * 2) inaccessible
 * 1) inaccessible

title: niedostępny


text:
مارسيل

Proper noun

 * 1) Marcel

title: مارسيل


text:
درويش

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) dervish

Proper noun

 * : Darwish

title: درويش


text:
dostępny

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) accessible
 * 2) available
 * 3) approachable
 * 1) approachable
 * 1) approachable

title: dostępny


text:
غجر

Etymology
, in Modern Standard Arabic use from  extended from the name one of the tribes of. Attested in (ᛦ 868) as the occupation of a, in the form  or  (without ʔiʕjām): possibly clipped from  from  which gave 🇨🇬  / , all meaning “beggar”, and originally a designation for mendicants of mixed ethnic affiliation.

Noun

 * 1) Ghagar, one of the tribes of
 * 2) Gypsies (Romani)
 * 3) a rude or abusive person

title: غجر


text:
بيروت

Etymology
.

Descendants

 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:
 * Hindustani:

Etymology
.

Etymology
From.

title: بيروت


text: تل العمارنة

title: تل العمارنة


text:
بعلبك

Etymology
ar. Related to.

Etymology
.

title: بعلبك


text: crìochan

title: crìochan


text: crìche

title: crìche


text: crìch

title: crìch


text:
grenlandzki

Adjective

 * 1) Greenlandic

title: grenlandzki


text:
dolmade

Noun

 * 1) A dolma.

title: dolmade


text: dolmades

title: dolmades


text:
Talk:set to work

From Requested entries.
 * set to work — a verb idiom or a set phrase. Some 9 million Google hits - . --Dan Polansky 14:41, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A quotation: "We may take next the way of MEMORY. If I set to work to recall what I did this morning, that is a form of consciousness different from perception, since it is concerned with the past."
 * Indeed, work is almost the only verb that works with "set" in this way on COCA. Compare with get + "to [verb]". DCDuring TALK 00:11, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wrong analysis for "set NP1 to work(NP2)". "Work" is a noun. Several nouns work in the NP2 position in this sense as well as many gerunds.
 * set to work may be the same. DCDuring TALK 23:48, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * (Unindent) Hi, I have only a poor command of the "set to work" phrase, which is why I have added it as a requested entry. To me it seems synonymous, in the quotation that I have provided and that you quoted above, to "try", "attempt" or "endeavor". It seems to mean not only that something is attempted without guaranteed success but also that effort needs to be expended in that attempt.
 * Other phrases showing the same syntactic pattern:, . These may be sum-of-parts, but I don't know whether they are and which of the senses of set should be a part in this candidate SoP construction. --Dan Polansky 08:43, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the extra examples of the "set to VP" structure. I have read that "set" has the longest entry in the OED. Perhaps I'll be off to my local library to read up today. I wish it also had one of the definitive grammars as well. DCDuring TALK 09:37, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:set to work


text: Նյու Յորք

title: Նյու Յորք


text: meltaway

title: meltaway


text:
Տեխաս

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * 1) Texas

title: Տեխաս


text:
heffalump

Etymology
Probably a childish mispronunciation of, perhaps influenced by a  (as in "I'll have half a lump of sugar in my tea"),  (1882–1956) as the name of an imaginary animal in his book Winnie-the-Pooh (1926). The animal was not described in the book, but the illustrator Ernest Howard Shepard (1879–1976) depicted it as an elephant.

Sense 2 (“something which is elusive”) refers to the fact that in Milne’s book the characters and Piglet set a trap for, but are unable to capture, a heffalump.

Noun

 * 1)  (A child's name for) an elephant.
 * 2) Something that is elusive.
 * 3)  A clumsy or overweight person.
 * 1) Something that is elusive.
 * 2)  A clumsy or overweight person.
 * 1) Something that is elusive.
 * 2)  A clumsy or overweight person.
 * 1)  A clumsy or overweight person.
 * 1)  A clumsy or overweight person.
 * 1)  A clumsy or overweight person.

Translations

 * French: éphélant, éfélant
 * Italian: efelante

 * Russian:

title: heffalump


text: snotnoses

title: snotnoses


text: wazzers

title: wazzers


text:
nonasthmatic

Adjective

 * 1) Not asthmatic.

Noun

 * 1) One who does not have asthma.

title: nonasthmatic


text: nonasthmatics

title: nonasthmatics


text:
nonfreeway

Adjective

 * 1)  That is not, or does not relate to, a freeway.

title: nonfreeway


text:
слонопотам

Etymology
Blend of +.

Noun

 * 1) Heffalump
 * 2)  clumsy, awkward person

title: слонопотам


text:
midaltitude

Adjective

 * 1)  At a moderate altitude.

title: midaltitude


text:
nontradable

Adjective

 * 1) Not tradable.

Noun

 * 1) something not tradable

title: nontradable


text: myringotomies

title: myringotomies


text:
tympanostomy

Etymology
=.

Noun

 * , incision in the eardrum (tympanic membrane).

title: tympanostomy


text: tympanostomies

title: tympanostomies


text: fettucini

title: fettucini


text:
watersoaked

Adjective

 * 1) Soaked with water.

title: watersoaked


text:
cravată

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) necktie

title: cravată


text:
onomastically

Adverb

 * 1) In an onomastic way.

title: onomastically


text:
cherrystone

Noun

 * 1)  A hard clam  that is larger than a countneck, littleneck or topneck but smaller than a quahog.

title: cherrystone


text: cherrystones

title: cherrystones


text:
բեգեմոտ

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) hippopotamus
 * 2)  fat person
 * 1)  fat person

title: բեգեմոտ


text:
nonbasketball

Adjective

 * 1) Not basketball, or not associated with it.

title: nonbasketball


text:
nontalkative

Adjective

 * 1) Not talkative.

title: nontalkative


text:
Hebb's rule

Etymology
Introduced by Donald Hebb in his 1949 book The Organization of Behavior.

Proper noun

 * 1)  Neurons that fire together wire together.

title: Hebb's rule


text:
posthole

Noun

 * 1)  A cut feature used to hold a surface timber or stone, usually much deeper than it is wide.

Verb

 * 1) To sink one's legs deep into snow while walking.

title: posthole


text: postholes

title: postholes


text:
prelease

Verb

 * 1)  To arrange a lease for in advance.

Noun

 * 1) A lease arranged in advance.

title: prelease


text: preleases

title: preleases


text: preleasing

title: preleasing


text: preleased

title: preleased


text:
pressureless

Adjective

 * 1) Without pressure or the use of pressure.
 * a pressureless gas

title: pressureless


text:
ungowned

Adjective

 * 1) Not gowned; not wearing a gown; unrobed.

title: ungowned


text:
girderlike

Adjective

 * 1) Resembling or characteristic of a girder.

title: girderlike


text: hardwearing

title: hardwearing


text:
monopolylike

Adjective

 * 1) Resembling or characteristic of a monopoly.

title: monopolylike


text:
midsea

Noun

 * 1) A point out at sea, away from the shore.

Translations

 * Bikol Central:
 * Tagalog: laot

title: midsea


text:
nonmortal

Adjective

 * 1) Not subject to mortality; undying, immortal.
 * 2) Not deadly; nonfatal.

Noun

 * 1) One who is not mortal; an immortal.

title: nonmortal


text:
nonpaid

Adjective

 * 1) For which no payment is levied.

title: nonpaid


text:
reinvolve

Verb

 * 1)  To involve again.

title: reinvolve


text: reinvolves

title: reinvolves


text: reinvolving

title: reinvolving


text: reinvolved

title: reinvolved


text:
squeegeelike

Adjective

 * 1)  Resembling or characteristic of a squeegee.

title: squeegeelike


text:
skateway

Noun

 * 1)  An ice rink or other route for ice skating.

title: skateway


text: skateways

title: skateways


text:
celebrification

Noun

 * 1)  The introduction of celebrity as a factor in some field or discipline.

title: celebrification


text:
dipperful

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  As much as a dipper will hold; a cupful.

title: dipperful


text: dipperfuls

title: dipperfuls


text: dippersful

title: dippersful


text:
laojiao

Etymology
From Chinese (an abbreviation of ).

Noun

 * 1) A system of administrative detentions in the People's Republic of China in which penal labour is done for a small salary, generally used to detain people who have committed minor crimes.

title: laojiao


text:
lifehacking

Noun

 * 1) The use of lifehacks.

title: lifehacking


text:
nonartist

Noun

 * 1) One who is not an artist (creator of art).

title: nonartist


text: nonartists

title: nonartists


text: wooliness

title: wooliness


text:
ragalike

Adjective

 * 1) Resembling raga or some aspect of it.

title: ragalike


text:
полуниця

Noun

 * 1) strawberry cultivated plant and fruit

title: полуниця


text:
広場

Noun

 * 1) open area, square
 * 2) plaza

title: 広場


text:
Hasse diagram

Etymology
Named after Helmut Hasse (1898–1979), though he was not the first to use them.

Noun

 * 1)  A diagram which represents a finite poset, in which nodes are elements of the poset and arrows represent the order relation between elements. Transitivity of the order relation is tacit, in other words, if $$ x \le y$$ and $$y \le z $$ then no arrow is drawn from x to z, but if there is no distinct z between x and y (such that $$ x \le z \le y $$) then an arrow is draw from x to y.

title: Hasse diagram


text:
bagay

Noun

 * 1) river

Etymology
From, from. . Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) thing

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) harmony; agreement between things

Adjective

 * 1) proper; fit; suitable

Noun

 * 1) friend

Etymology
. See also.

Noun

 * 1) thing; object; item
 * 2) affair; matter

Adjective

 * 1) proper; fit; suitable

title: bagay


text: Template:uk-ndecl-manual

title: Template:uk-ndecl-manual


text:
Boolean lattice

Noun

 * 1)  The lattice corresponding to a Boolean algebra.
 * A Boolean lattice always has 2n elements for some cardinal number 'n', and if two Boolean lattices have the same size, then they are isomorphic. A Boolean lattice can be defined "inductively" as follows: the base case could be the "degenerate" Boolean lattice consisting of just one element. This element is less than or equal to itself, which reflects the first "law of thought". Inductive step: given the structure of a 2n-element Boolean lattice, make an exact and separate duplicate of it, which preserves the order relation isomorphically. Then connect the two lattices as follows: choose one as the "bottom" and one as the "top", then draw an arrow connecting each element of the "bottom" lattice to its corresponding element of the "top" lattice. The result is the 2n+1-element Boolean lattice (unique up to order-isomorphism). The 0 of the bottom lattice becomes the new 0, and the 1 of the top lattice becomes the new 1. Note that the 4-element (Boolean) lattice is a square, the 8-element lattice is a cube, the 16-element lattice is a tesseract, and higher-order lattices are higher-dimensional hypercubes in general, with the 0 and 1 always diagonally opposite, i.e., at the highest possible Hamming/taxicab distance from each other (equal to 'n' for an n-dimensional hypercube) and the edges directed so as to connect the vertex closer to 0 to the vertex further away from 0 (in terms of Hamming/taxicab distance).

Hypernyms

 * orthocomplemented lattice, ortholattice

Translations

 * Icelandic: Boole-grind

title: Boolean lattice


text:
catepsina

Noun

 * 1)  cathepsin

Noun

 * 1)  cathepsin

title: catepsina


text:
caveolina

Noun

 * 1)  caveolin

title: caveolina


text:
caveola

Etymology
, constructed from. , which is from, an earlier, natural formation of the same term. More at, , and.

Noun

 * 1) A small (50–100 nanometer) invagination of the plasma membrane in many vertebrate cell types.

Related terms

 * caveogenesis

Translations

 * Finnish: kaveoli
 * Spanish: caveola

Etymology
From. Attested in glosses from late antiquity.

Noun

 * 1) little cage

Descendants

 * Italo-Romance:
 * Gallo-Italic:
 * Gallo-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Gallo-Italic:
 * Gallo-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Gallo-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:

title: caveola


text: caveolae

title: caveolae


text: caveolas

title: caveolas


text:
viv

Etymology
Shortening.

Noun

 * 1)  vivarium

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  wife, female spouse

Verb

 * 1) to live

Etymology
Akin to 🇨🇬, from Latin.

Verb

 * 1) to live

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  wife, female spouse

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  wife, female spouse
 * 2)  girl, young woman

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  wife, female spouse
 * 2) * 1673, ', Traditional, in 1816', Svenska folk-visor från forntiden'', 3rd. vol, p. 193, ,
 * "sv"

- Ant'en vill J bli' Wallare-vif, Eller vill J mista Ert unga lif? Inte villa vi bli' Vallarevif, Heldre vi miste vårt unga lif.

title: viv