text:
Talk:黍

Middle Chinese
Need Middle Chinese pronunciation. 24.29.234.185 18:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:黍


text:
uhlí

Etymology
From ; from.

Noun

 * 1) coal carbon fuel

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: uhlí


text: Category:Old Persian conjunctions

title: Category:Old Persian conjunctions


text:
𐎢𐎫𐎠

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Mayrhofer and others suggested a further connection with 🇨🇬, ultimately from 🇨🇬. This connection has been disputed by later scholars due to the difference in usage, but a direct PIE ancestor is still possible; 🇨🇬 serves an identical function, and on this basis Klein reconstructs.

Conjunction

 * 1) and

Descendants

 * 𐭥
 * (after a pause)
 * (after a pause)
 * (after a pause)

title: 𐎢𐎫𐎠


text:
Wiktionary:Grease pit/bug reports

Use of HTML codes for special characters in links
I was looking at the Most Wanted page and it shows a very ugly entry for (Zoöl (subject)), where the umlauted "o" appears as a question mark in a dark diamond. The writer represented to "ö" by using the HTML "ö" format. I changed a few of these to the Alt 0246 format and the characters were correctly represented. Should we be outlawing the use of HTML codes for special characters in links? We seem to be heading to a broader and more exciting variety of acceptable characters in titles than was ever imagined on Wikipedia. I think that's great! In the course of that, we might as well get rid of dead end options before doing so becomes a huge job. Eclecticology 06:28 Dec 18, 2002 (UTC)

 * The named-reference->character conversion code is currently hardwired to use an iso8859-1 table. Likewise, the numbered-reference->character conversion code is currently hard-wired to make UTF-8. ;) I'll see about fixing that. --Brion 06:56 Dec 18, 2002 (UTC)

OK, then it shouldn't be a problem if I use the "Alt " format for most 8859-1 characters. Ec

Ug. And for those of us who can remember the standardised entity names but not Alt whatever? (What is that, anyway, Mes$Winduhs?) Does it matter if the entity names map to 8859/1, doesn't Unicode embed 8859/1? Perhaps if it's a problem, the thing that munges wikicode to HTML or XHTML or whatever is fed to the browser, should accept and translate the standard entities itself.

Shakespeare links
New issue: There are now several links from articles marked like Shakespeare (source). That article is a redirect to Shakespeare which in turn redirects to William Shakespeare. That's where it should end-up. The path getting there is the problem, and the redirect entry in Wiktionary is not accessible for amendment since the trace back to the first redirect in Wiktionary does not show up on the Wikipedia article. -Ec

 * Workaround: http://wiktionary.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Shakespeare (source)&redirect=no

Chinese font
Chinese font 睾 is romanized as follows,

YI 4 is wrong,

this is an organ in male body under penis,

it should be romanized as follows,

GAO 3

3Q~

Jacques Pascal Huang

2004/4/8 CST AM 3:05

"jumping" user toolbar?
I don't know if it's just me, but whenever I put my cursor over the user toolbar (the one on the top-right corner of the screen, if the MonoBook skin is used), it (the toolbar) jumps to the left. I find it kind of annoying. :\

I don't have a problem when I use the Classic skin, but for me, Wiktionary looks much better with MonoBook. --Ixfd64 09:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

I have this problem too, but I don't complain about quirks I've encountered (e.g. not being able to read the IPA symbols either) since I'm on an Asian computer system. Davilla 15:22, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Search query
Hello. When I make a search for However. I get this messeage Badly formed search query. I think, such words should be better available by the search engine in a dictionay. -- Youssefsan
 * "However" is on a stoplist of common words that can't be searched. It seems to me that it would be of benefit to have some way of overriding this for the Wiktionary.  At some point we will need to consider them in their own right. Eclecticology 02:56 Jan 13, 2003 (UTC)

The whole system of searching needs to be changed, for 1 we don't need to search for words within articles only the page titles. -fonzy

edited by Andrew Trott

 * I disagree with fonzy -- in my mind the only purpose for the Search button is to find words which are not page titles (and I have used it many times for that). If we just want page titles, we simply press Go. But yes, we do need to get round the stop list -- which of course Go manages. --Eng in ear 17:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

In the "Search" or "Go" mode, why doesn't Wiktionary offer similar words for searched words not found (similar to spell check)? Many times a user doesn't know the exact spelling, especially of uncommon words (e.g., "plebiscite").

't is query
I've tried to edit 't is (Dutch for it's), but it comes up as "/'t is" (with a slash--could have been a backslash too). I don't know if English has words starting with other characters than letters, but in other languages there are (Dutch: 's morgens, 's middags, 's avonds). AFAIK the glottal stop in South African languages is represented by "!" as in the name of the language !Kung. Can anything be done so everything shows up as it should? D.D. 18:43 Apr 28, 2003 (UTC)

Update: 't is starts with a backslash and !Kung seems to be working fine. But some words in other languages might start with still other characters. D.D. 19:00 Apr 28, 2003 (UTC)

I am assuming the problem is due to how the software works, and that character might be involved with the software, but i am just guessing. - fonzy

Wiki system date query
The mainpage says Today is Monday , but when I first loaded the page on Friday, Oct 3, 22:54 UTC, it displayed as "Thursday", 2 Oct 2003. Only when I change and preview the page do I get Friday. Is this a bug? The page is probably cached somewhere, just make a minor change and the date will be right for some hours until midnight :-)

Note: The main page also says that the ISO date is 2003-10-2, which is very misleading (as it could be interpreted as the second day of the 10th week), but I guess that 29 cannot be forced to display as 2 digits.

No Bug Reporting Directions
Is this really how you report a bug in the Wiktionary? If so the directions should be more explicit--it's far from obvious. It also doesn't inspire confidence that someone is reading these or acting on them.

Anyway, the bug is that the "quick jump to word beginning with letter" doesn't work. It only shows the first 500 or so words beginning with the specified letter and doesn't have any "next" button. At best it's only marginally useful. At worst, people see these lists and assume they're complete and that the word they're looking for isn't in the dictionary.

Searching for nonexistant word shows bogus $1 in google textbox
If you try to search for "asdf" or something equally bogus, the resulting page has two identical "search google" forms, the first one having $1 instead of the word in the textbox (but the second one has the correct word).

Error message
(This is moved from the beer parlour. Eric119)

I don't really know where to put this, but when I submitted some changes to ironing, I got the following message:

"

From Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wiktionary), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:

UPDATE recentchanges SET rc_this_oldid=63074 WHERE rc_namespace=0 AND rc_title='Ironing' AND rc_timestamp='20040423143040'

from within function "RecentChange::save". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; Try restarting transaction".

"

(ps. when I hit reload, it worked fine again) Anyone who can 1) tell the right ones or 2) tell me who to tell? (or tell me not to worry..:-)
 * \Mike 15:43, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

wiktionaries and en:-type links
A link like en:Malta used to link to a page on Wikipedia, but now links to the page on Wiktionary. This may be useful for a link like es:Malta to link to the spanish wiktionary's corresponding page, but some articles (I have no idea how many, but I have seen it, e.g. Malta) used an type link (which is now broken) instead of a article type link (which still works). Given that an en: type link is not likely to be meaningful on en.wiktionary.org can we get at least this type to point back to Wikipedia? (see also Inter-wiktionary links) —Muke Tever 08:09, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

 * It seems as we could benefit from some sort of bot to change all links from link to link . The latter seems to work. \Mike 09:02, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

 * Oh, by the way, anyone knows how to make links from the 'pedia to non-en: wiktionaries? Whithout using the complete URL? \Mike

 * I've not been on Wiktionary since the start of April and back then there were NO other language Wiktionaries. I hadn't realised we couldn't put en: links any more so I've still been putting them. I'll change them now, but ultimately we de need a bot to change en: to w: on the English Wiktionary. Anyone no much about this or have another solution? --Rob 00:31, 23 May 2004 (UTC)

Bug on search failure page
When you perform a failed lookup on a word ("parbroil" for instance) the results page ( http://en.wiktionary.org/w/wiki.phtml ) lists both search boxes as Google (wikipedia has one Google and one Yahoo search box.) Additionally, the default text in the top box shows up as "$1", likely a scripting error as it should be the failed search term (same behavior as the second search box, which works correctly on this page.)

YAGSP (Yet Another Google Search Problem)
The Google site-search searches in http://wikipedia.org/. That should be updated to http://en.wikipedia.org/.

 * I suppose that depends on whether you want to search all lang's or just english? \Mike

Bug in Greek page titles with Χ χ Φ φ Ψ ψ Π π
Okay, so I clicked a link to χάλιξ (chalix), and the resulting page informs me I am Editing &Ch1;άλι&x1;... similar problems with Ἄλφα...

Heck. Apparently it does this for all Greek letters whose names end in -i: Χ χ chi, Φ φ phi, Ψ ψ psi, and Π π pi — something somewhere is turning it into a 1 when it makes page titles.

—I just checked and the URLs work properly (I can link to Μηχανή and get the right page), it's just whatever converts the Greek into entities for the displayed title does this. —Muke Tever 03:56, 8 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Bugs on et:Wiktionary
et:Wiktionary has a lot of bugs. The article counter has stopped on 46. There is no way to see which articles there are in the Wiktionary. No special page functions, nor all pages, nor new pages. Andres 19:48, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

 * Works for me. -- Tim Starling 02:03, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Bug on sv.wiktionary
As I understand it, the random page should not direct the user to articles in the Wiktionary name space, as it does on sv:. Anyone knows anything about it? \Mike 08:56, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

That's because there were a whole heap of pages in the Wiktionary pseudo-namespace, which were apparently recreated after the namespace was changes. The following pages were recovered:

 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Begäran om administatörskap
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Begäran om administratörsskap
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Bybrunnen
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Hur redigerar jag en sida
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Lista över meddelandevariabler
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Om
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Recentchanges
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Sandlådan
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Statistik
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:A
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:B
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:C
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:D
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:Ä
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Svenskt språkindex:Ö
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:Tinget
 * sv:Recovered/Wiktionary:sandlåda

-- Tim Starling 02:03, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The swedish wiktionary has some problems with identifying Å as capital å. The same goes for Ä/ä and Ö/ö. This allows us to create two different pages - one where first letter is capitalized, one were it is not, providing the first letter is å,ä or ö. Is this something that will be corrected as we get UTF-8, or is there something else around? \Mike 01:07, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

bugs on la.wiktionary
When I created a new talk page to an existing article (linear) I found that the page says:
 * Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for Linear.

I think it ought to be ... for Talk:Linear, i.e. to add the namespace. Not a major issue, though.\Mike 14:40, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Save Page => Preview
Every so often, you hit the "Save Page" button, or press alt-S, and you get the Preview page instead of the page being saved. You might then have to try half a dozen times until it works. SemperBlotto 28 June 2005 13:53 (UTC)

georeactor
I posted a scientifically precise long definition of "georeactor" as well as a precise summary. An hour or two later, I discovered that the long definition had disappeared and only a different, and INCORRECT summary definition was in its place. What is happening here? J. M. Herndon mherndon@san.rr.com

 * Not a software bug, I've noted this on the (anonymous) user's talk. --Wytukaze 22:59, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Server error for "Index of language indexes"
Clicking on the "Index of language indexes" on the Main page gives an error message:

Warning: strpos: Empty delimiter. in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Parser.php on line 1065

Nurg 22:50, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

 * That's a temporary problem with the Wikimedia apaches, and can happen on any page. It should be fixed soon enough. --Wytukaze 23:20, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

Position of '[edit]' links
When I view the colon page the [edit] links do not line up correctly. For example if I click "Derived terms [edit]" it opens the editor on "See also". Is it me or does the same happen to others?

 * Nick1nildram, that seems to happen sometimes when there is a template on the same line as a header (somewhere on the page), or if the header marks (the '=') are not properly aligned. \Mike 11:17, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

template:Rfd
Why has the template stop working on pages such as roundheels? -- Nick1nildram 19:35, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

new word templates for multiple word searches
The availability of templates is wonderful! There's a small bug for multiple word searches though. Spaces should be replaced with underscores for links to function. Possibly other character substitutions should be performed as well. Davilla 16:29, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It should, yes, but this appears to be currently impossible in wikimarkup. See 839.  (In earlier versions of the software—i.e. before about a week ago—this was possible because Mediawiki:Nogomatch (which produces the links with the templates) used to allow HTML where this is not a problem, but HTML is now disallowed on it.  —Muke Tever 20:53, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Double Redirects not listed properly
Special:DoubleRedirects initially shows no entries. Changing 50 to 500 shows numbers 1 to 180. Next 500 shows numbers 501 to 529. Whats up? (numbers may vary as the entries get cleaned up) SemperBlotto 16:57, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Magic caches. The whole list is cached, but it is 'smart' enough to know when its entries are no longer applicable and thus removes them from the cache.  However it is apparently not smart enough to properly renumber what remains. (It shows 1 to 180 numbered thus because the numbering is done with an HTML auto-numbered list; presumably the internal enumeration, if any, is different.) —Muke Tever 20:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

incorrect statement of "Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for X"
If a page has no talk page, as in Talk:statistician as of this minute, the page has a header saying that "Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for statistician" when it should say "Wiktionary does not yet have a talk page for statistician", since the former sentence is incorrect. This is nit-picking, but it can't be hard to fix. Hogghogg 17:39, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Actually it can, because the same messages (Mediawiki:Noarticletext if you're viewing the page, Mediawiki:Newarticletext if you're editing the page) is used, regardless of what namespace it is. Better would be a more generalized message such as "Wiktionary does not yet have a page by this title." —Muke Tever 20:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

 * If one writes " Wiktionary does not yet have a page for . ", that ought to do the trick. Jon Harald Søby 10:53, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Bug in display of category entries when passed a parameter
There is a subtle bug in the display of category entries. If an entry is passed as in "category:potato|foo" on page "bar", the entry is alphabetized as "foo", but is still displayed as "bar". The bug is that the category page display uses whatever you give it after the "|" for alphabetizing the list, but ignores that passed parameter when displaying the entry. It should show the entry as "foo" alphabetized under "foo". This behavior is important in the Wikipedia in order to properly alphabetize names, but is less important here in the Wiktionary, so as such is a low priority bug. Brholden 00:29, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

Dear Sir,

An error message comes up which states "404 Page not found". Can you download this dictionary to Palm OS 5 handheld? How much memory do you need to download it? I just looooooove this dictionary.

Best, David

Polish not possible
I've noticed some shortcomings in the availability of certain character sets. In particular, Russian e-umlaut is not available in the Cyrillic character set, and a-ogonek, and e-ogonek are not available as Polish characters. These letters are essential for these languages, so why aren't they available from the edit pages? --EncycloPetey 10:51, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Arabic script
In Special:Recentchanges, the Arabic entries come on the right. I know that Arabic is written left-to-right, as in the following:

(diff) (hist). . Wiktionary:Arabic index; 21:30. . Jackbrown (Talk) (suggested reorganization of Arabic/English dictionary) (diff) (hist). . gadolinium; 21:29. . Hyark (Talk) (→External links - cat fi:chem elem) (diff) (hist). . N رأس; 21:28. . 196.218.4.51 (Talk) (diff) (hist). . Hall; 21:28. . Uncle G (Talk) (Category:English proper nouns) (diff) (hist). . User:Vildricianus; 21:27. . Vildricianus (Talk) (→Current Mission) --Wonderfool 21:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Add  to each definition
Both Yahoo! and Google support "define word" as a special query which returns their local dictionary definitions. I noticed that Wiktionary articles are not returned for these special defintion queries. If "define word" was added to the meta keywords for the page, this would increase the chances that the Wiktionary article would be returned for these "define" queries.

Add <meta name="description" content="first defintion" to each definition
When I did the query word wikipedia on Yahoo! and Google, I noticed that the page descriptions for the wiktionary articles were pretty weak. You might consider creating a defintion template that incorporates the pimary defintion in the description for each entry.

For instance, juggernaut might have the default description:

Noun: juggernaut, The term juggernaut is used to describe any literal or metaphorical force regarded as unstoppable; that will crush all in its path.

In the title, add "juggernaut: definition from Wiktionary, the free dictionary"

What links here not working
For templates especially, using What links here is not finding all pages that link.

--Connel MacKenzie T C 07:11, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

no edit tab
illegal does not allow edit. Something's wrong with the page, and it must be screwing up the parsing. That or some funny HTML is stopping the rendering on my machine. No way to tell what's going on in the page code. 59.112.41.146 10:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Works OK for me - I have cleaned it up. SemperBlotto 10:56, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Strange. There was the start of a comment tag showing that no longer appears in the history. Possibly some sort of database corruption, who knows? Davilla 17:53, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

not a bug report as much as a question
preface: I am not accustomed to capitalizing anything I don't absolutely have to over at pedia, so maybe just have to get used to that here. now, for entry titles I understand why there is a distinction. but everytime I type special:whatever or bug reports the word after the colon has to be capped?? could this be changed? is there an advantage to keeping it how it workz currently? let me know. thankz, Ling  Lang  Lung  02:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It used to be the same over here as it is over there, it is because *pedia is not first letter case sensitive (Word == word) but we recently changed this (and every) wiktionary to be case sensitive (Word =/= word) for a variety of reasons.  It is handy to note that while you do have to capitalize everything that requires it, we have many shortcut pages (WT:BP = Beer_parlour, also WT:A for admins) so you can still be a little lazy with the typing ;) Happy editing, - TheDaveRoss
 * dude. w:SA is a frikkin double yo. Ling  Lang  Lung  08:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed. Likewise sa (in deference to SA.)  --Connel MacKenzie T C 23:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

 * It's because the first-letter decapitalization is a feature intended for a few languages (chiefly Klingon) where upper and lower case letters have different meanings entirely (Klingon |q| is pronounced /qʰ/, an aspirated uvular stop, and |Q| is /q͡χ/, an uvular affricate). In these languages the distinction in letters is needed in all namespaces, so there was no option to limit it to the main namespace.  This feature was not built or intended for Wiktionary, where it is ill-suited.  —Muke Tever 23:01, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Confirmation clears edit summary
When submitting external links to an edited page, I get a confirmation notice with an image of text to type. On this intermediate page the edit summary is reset and has to be re-entered.

(Also + tab at top of this page would be nice, in addition to Make a Report link.)

∂ανίΠα 21:19, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

 * +-tab should be there now. \Mike 12:39, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Memory of username
I would consider it odd enough that "Remember this user" is not checked when logging in, as though it remembers me, but doesn't remember that it remembers me. However, it's questionable that this checkbox even does anything. When logging in under a new user name, and not checking the checkbox, it subsequently remembers the new username anyways. In other words, the function is applied regardless. Davilla 17:14, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

 * I haven't tried checking for this site, but "Remember this user" is usually intended to mean "Do not require me (or anyone else using this computer) to sign in or use a password in future, but allow automatic login as this user", rather than the sense you are implying: "Enter the last used user name as default, to save unnecessary keystokes for those (the majority) who do not have multiple personalities." (And I do hope you get DAVbetter soon) ;-p ... O no, I think it's catching — εηĝίпær, no, ENGinear, no...try very hard...think straight...repeat to myself, "I am not a cipher, I am an Enginear, I am not..." 01:41, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

 * The checkbox is unchecked by default, for people logging in in public places (cybercafes, libraries, etc.) in case they close their broswer (or their cafe-time runs out and their browser closes,) before they log out. --Connel MacKenzie 19:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand how it works now. It's a little troubling that it would remember the username though, even if it doesn't automatically log in, when the box is unchecked. It's also somewhat annoying that it doesn't automatically check the box if it had been checked last time. Essentially all-or-nothing makes more sense to me. Right now the checkbox only applies to the critical stuff. Username, always remembered, and whether the checkbox was checked, always forgotten, are not tied to it. But this isn't the bug I thought it was. DAVilla 05:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

 * But, it is your browser that is filling them in. Because you told it to, at some point.  Or am I completely misunderstanding what you are reporting?  --Connel MacKenzie 05:32, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Really? Damn it I hate Windows. No, I think you're right. My new roommate speaks Chinese, so I'll ask to go over the security settings, which I can't read on this machine. DAVilla 05:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Word of the Day Archive
It seems that regardless of which month is being viewed it has March up the top next to the days (although the days change with the month requests).

 * This is being fixed by bot, as I type this. --Connel MacKenzie 02:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Feature request: link all words
Wiktionary! Why isn't every single word in the definition a link back to it's Wiktionary definition by default? That would make Wiktionary unbeatable dictionary source and also if the links turned red that didn't exist would show what words are missing. Paul D.

 * Firefox has that feature built in, and several alternates exsist to doubleclick a word on any website and look up that word here. But Wiktionary prefers to put emphasis only on key terms, as appropriate.  Auto-linking all words prevents proper linking of multi-word terms (e.g. kick the bucket) which would be a horrible loss.  --Connel MacKenzie 19:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay but 1. Not everybody uses Firefox 2. word groupings could be maintained as needed so that if your kick the bucket gets maintained with brackets around the whole then it's a unit. Otherwise it's good to link to each word independently so you can understand what kick the bucket literally means.

 * Linking every word also puts a very large load in the servers which as we know constantly need updating as more and more people use Wikipedia and friends. Every linked word means a database lookup. Linking just relevant words is a lot less stressful for the servers. Also, many of us don't want every word linked - it's just too distracting. Now what should be possible is for somebody to use the ToolServer to make some kind of tool that shows pages with every word linked, preferably looking at an offline database rather than the main one. It would be a very useful tool but there would be some difficulties including correct parsing to avoid re-linking words that are already linked as a group, and handling apostrophes and hyphens, both of which are sometimes part of a word and sometimes punctuation. Another concern is that Wiktionary is for all languages and quite a few major languages such as Chinese, Japanese, and Thai do not put spaces between words so that any automatic treatment is not really possible and would produce garbage results. — Hippietrail 17:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Your general demeanor is troubling. First there should be little or no load on the servers.  Every linked word does NOT necessarily mean a database lookup.  The URL is known only by the word (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/word).  You must be joking about "many of us don't want every word linked".  Because many of US do want every word linked.  Normally when going to a dictionary to find something that is defined with words you also don't understand will result in more lookups.  Distracting? lol that's funny.  Entries still will get parsed so that corrections can be made for apostrophes and hyphens; there's no difference between that and kick the bucket  Chinese & Japanese -- sorry about ya.  This works for the majority of languages.  Anyone who has learned a foreign language knows how beneficitial this feature would be. —This unsigned comment was added by 12.135.52.82 (talk • contribs) 2006-07-14 13:31:03.

 * Anon, your specific demeanor is troubling. Hippietrail is right about the server load. Each page save would require significant database load in order for the server to determine which words should be blue-linked and which red-linked. Did you even bother to look at a URL for red-links before posting above? If not, look at the link for this. Hippietrail is not joking when he says that many of us don't want every word linked. Editors here generally make good decisions about which words to link, as Connel explained above. Note also that only lemmata get full definitions here, so having the software automatically link everything would force the reader to click through the inflected form to get to the entry with meaning. Your anyone who has learned a foreign language knows how beneficitial this feature would be... is not only wrong, but rude. Rod (A. Smith) 04:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Anon1 is right. If all words are entries then they are all blue; meaning no database lookup.

 * This is a pretty good idea. The problem discussed is only to red/blue the words.  What if the color stayed black?  It wouldn't be "distracting", wouldn't require a database lookup but may or may not have an entry.  Just a thought.
 * Hey, why not? I still think phrases should be linked as they are, but otherwise any unlinked word could very easily be linked in black, with no server load at all. DAVilla 05:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

 * As a WT:PREF, yes, I could see that. Once they load a page, every word not already linked could get one, from a small Javascript bookmarklet.  If we wanted to get really fancy, they could each be spell-checked and given a red background (if not wikified, and kicked out by the spell check.)  Or course, the toolserver would melt.  (30,000 anon users x 3 pages x 200 words would be a lot of redundant spell checking, for just one day.)  --Connel MacKenzie 09:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

wikipedia.org blocked in Yahoo Messenger
I can't seem to get wikipedia links to work in Yahoo Messenger with BT Communicator (BETA) MyYahoo Module (7.5.0.1).

Don't know how to contact Yahoo about this.

Has anyone else noticed this? —This unsigned comment was added by 84.13.34.183 (talk • contribs) 2006-07-19 11:47:47.

 * Are you having trouble clicking through links or creating them? If you're having trouble clicking through them, what happens when you try? Rod (A. Smith) 06:37, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

cosmetic problem

 * See Template talk:en-noun --Connel MacKenzie 23:31, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Dates on headers in word of the day archive...
Dates on headers in word of the day archive for future dates all show today's date, not the day corresponding to that word being posted as word of the day. For example, looking at the archive for November 2006, every word has a posting date of Novemeber 6, as it's today. Not true though surely? In fact not only on future dates, but past months also.
 * This is a feature of the template. It prevents us from having to type each full date manually. It is also why the day of the month displays above each entry in regular text. --Versageek 16:16, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

 * A possible remedy would be to change the last parameter to be just the date, instead of the page edit link, then 'bot change all the entries. The template could then display the comparison date format in the display portion (which would probably be reported as another bug here) yet still work for the current edit links.

 * The other 'fix' would be to add a display-date parameter, and 'bot-fill the entries. This however, seems pretty yucky for all future WOTD entries.  --Connel MacKenzie 19:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

 * This is being bot-fixed as I type this. --Connel MacKenzie 02:32, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Erroneous 'doesn't have a page' message for capitalised word at the start of a line.
Actually, the message is literally correct since the search in case sensitive, but surely this feature needs to be addressed as it makes the whole project look very Mickey Mouse.

I tried to work around the problem on a definition I added a few das ago by creating a page for the capitalised word and just including the non capitalised one. It worked beautifully but within a minute or so it had been deleted leaving an ugly red ling that looked very amateurish.

Sometimes it's possible to recast the sentence without making it look too gruesome but it's a pain and I've noticed not everyone bothers. Moglex 09:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

 * The simplest solution is to "pipe" the word - e.g. Simplicity gives Simplicity SemperBlotto 09:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Great. That'll work for new ones, thanks. As for the ones already lying around, I feel a robot coming on.

 * I tried 'botting this a couple ways, but none have been satisfactory. I think a cleanup list will be the way to go.  But I'm not sure how the cleanup list will be refreshed; once something has been struck from the list, it probably shouldn't be re-added after the next XML dump.

 * That is to say, most of the resultant redlinks are valid (e.g. German nouns pointing to capitalized varient, where a lower case entry exists but the German noun has not yet been entered.)

 * Additional suggestions for a viable approach are appreciated. --Connel MacKenzie 19:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Ideally the parser would capitalize the first unparenthesized character of the resultant text within an enumerated item list. (The stuff in parens we already have a great deal of control over.) Talk about fixing a solution though! Good luck changing your mind on that style. DAVilla 17:53, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, this is so common it might be better to just incorporate it as word, which is currently equivalent to  word . DAVilla 03:42, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

page cuts off
At Template talk:context I get only <script type="text/javascript" src="/w/index.php?title=-&a in the left-hand corner. The HTML code likewise cuts off at that point. Temporary problem? DAVilla 17:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Worksfineforme. Did you try the normal stuff, e.g. logout, view page, log back in, view again?  Restart browser, reboot, etc?  --Connel MacKenzie 03:19, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

 * But why should only that page have problems, and reloading do nothing? Very well, it's back. DAVilla 03:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, when I've seen errors like that, it is usually due to a tag not being closed properly somewhere in the various Javascript snippets. Does the behavior change when you log out?  --Connel MacKenzie 19:55, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

script error in tooltips because of poor handling of innerHTML
/* Wiktionary-specific tooltips*/ ... function headingToolTips { ...   // level 3, 4, and 5 headings depend on their content var h345 = new Array('h3', 'h4', 'h5'); for (var j = 0; j < h345.length ; j++) { var allh345s = document.getElementById('bodyContent').getElementsByTagName(h345[j]); if (allh345s != -1) { for (var i = 0; i < allh345s.length; i++) { // part of speech var ht = allh345s[i].innerHTML.replace(/^(?:\d+(?:\.\d+)* )?(.*)/, "$1"); if (ht.search(/editsection/) != -1) { ht = ht.split(' ')[1]; ht = ht.split(' ')[0]; }

I'm using: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; InfoPath.1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727)

when I load: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ageless I get an exception. What follows is what happens when I let the script debugger walk through, first using my own variants of the above, and then executing the actual code:

ht = allh345s[i].innerHTML.replace(/^(?:\d+(?:\.\d+)* )?(.*)/, "$1");

"[edit] Etymology"

ht.search(/editsection/)

12

ht.search(' ')

-1

ht = allh345s[i].innerHTML.replace(/^(?:\d+(?:\.\d+)* )?(.*)/, "$1");

"[edit] Etymology"

(ht.search(/editsection/) != -1)

true

ht = ht.split(' ')[1];

undefined

ht = ht.split(' ')[0];

'ht' is null or not an object

-- The problem is that the code is assuming SPAN will be lowercase as part of innerHTML. it shouldn't do that. It could use / /i and /<\/span>/i instead. or it could be removed.

 * Interesting that the double quotes are stripped off, as well as "span" being converted to "SPAN". --Connel MacKenzie 03:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

 * OTOH, there is no excuse for using innerHTML. I'll try to remember to fix this soon.  --Connel MacKenzie 09:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Logins, don't
I'm running Firefox (latest version), on linux. Cookies are enabled. I login as 'fastluck' and am told that I have logged in successfully. Then I attempt to edit my preferences to change my email address (or edit a page--doesn't matter). Next, I am sent to a page that tells me I need to log in. This continues until I give up.

 * Try logging out first, and then log in again. —Stephen 04:12, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Stephen,

Thanks. I had already tried that and it didn't change anything.

John

 * In the Special:Preferences [misc] section, there is a "Disable page caching" item, that may be confounding your login. If I recall correctly, that item is worded opposite the behavior, so try toggling the setting.  Also check your FF cache settings, and restart your browser after you log out.  I have not experienced the problem you report in a very long time now (on FF, IE, Netscape, Konqueror, lynx, w3c, etc.)  --Connel MacKenzie 09:42, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

I'm having a problem with logging in. I've tried using Opera9 and IE7. On both browsers, wiktionary tells me I need to have cookies enabled. I thought I did, but still cannot log in. What kind of cookies are Wiktionary looking for? I don't have any cookie problems with the wikipedia sites. --67.135.143.106 19:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

 * The same exact software is used to perform the logins at both places. You may have exemptions for *.wikipedia.org but not *.wiktionary.org (*.wikibooks.org, *.wikinews.org, etc.)  --Connel MacKenzie 19:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I haven't figured it out.  But its something in my ZoneAlarm.  --Wiciwich 19:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Results problem
When doing a special search for "far idiom" I find that I cannot get beyond the third page of the results, even though there's supposed to be quite a few more entries (147 of them) -- it stops first item of the third page -- perhaps there's some invalid character in the text of that item?

Enovickas 17:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

 * No, there is nothing wrong with the item. This occurs with many such searches, where it claims to have found more pages than it actually displays. I don’t know the technical reasons for this, but it seems to be nothing more than a counting inconsistency. Perhaps it is counting the number of occurrences rather than the number of pages, and it appears more than once on some pages. —Stephen 17:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

 * In Special:Preferences [search] tab, you can select all namespaces to be checked. The Lucene search doesn't know a user's preference when it counts the potential matches, so if you have the default three namespaces selected (only) it will consistently give misleading results.  --Connel MacKenzie 09:44, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Two web page suggestions
1. At http://wikipedia.org/ - the header tag says the charset is UTF-8 but there is a lot of stuff on the page (repeated on many other pages) that all of my UTF-8 browsers and editors show as question marks. (While still rendering correctly some of the Arabic and Chinese)
 * UTF-8 is an encoding scheme. It enables your browsers to figure out what character is intended.  If you don't have those fonts loaded on your computer, (Control panel: Regional and Language Settings) you will see question marks or boxes.  I'm not sure how Firefox works around that limitation, but it seems to do a great job of rendering characters that other browsers do not.  --Connel MacKenzie 04:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

2. On the search page, where there are numerous checkboxes for areas to search - I recommend putting a non-breaking space between the check box and its item. Also for any spaces within item names. Leave a 'normal' space between items. This will prevent a check box on the end of a line with its label at the beginning of the next line.
 * That is a good suggestion, however, that text is auto-generated by the MediaWiki software, so fixing that will take a while, probably after someone files a bug report on bugzilla. --Connel MacKenzie 04:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Please sign your posts with ~ . Thanks.  --Connel MacKenzie 04:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Missing Devnagari Characters
Hi. I was trying to correct the spellings of Hindi words typed in Devnagari script and to my great surprise many alphabets are missing. Most of the half letters cannot be typed. Characters for "Ksha", "shra", "tra" etc simply do not exist! What can be done about it? Msddn 17:08, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Please supply the characters that are missing at MediaWiki talk:Edittools and one of us will try to get them in, soon. --Connel MacKenzie 17:22, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

 * The words that you have corrected were already spelled correctly. It seems that you do not possess the appropriate fonts for viewing Unicode characters.  I suggest you obtain one.  Half letters can be typed by the use of hala.nt, which is the appropriate way.  To spell ksha you will have to type क ् ष.  --Dijan 19:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

 * You probably have a font that does not allow for the correct display of characters by the use of the hala.nt and instead it assigns a unit to each half letter and ligature as well. Please obtain a font, such as Xdvng.ttf for Devanagari, that is able to correct this error.  --Dijan 19:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

http://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:hu-hr/e ???
Hello, Please help me. I was using this link/adress for some of my translations, but now I can't: http://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:hu-hr/e. is this some where else? Would you give me the new adress? Thank you! Sylvia
 * You might want to try an admin at the hu Wiktionary, who would be able to see the history of the deleted page. DAVilla 14:38, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

werewolf
It could be just my machine, or my work's network, but every time I go to werewolf I get this error: Appliance Error (internal_error)

An unrecoverable error was encountered: "" This problem is unexpected. Please use the contact information below to obtain assistance.

For assistance, contact your network support team.

Any thoughts? sewnmouthsecret 21:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

 * - try calling your ISP? --Connel MacKenzie 21:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Hmm. I'll try at home and see if it works there; if so I'll leave it be. Thanks for checkin. sewnmouthsecret 21:13, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

what it says on the tin
Unable to revert to previous version as it seems to have no history now. DAVilla 07:01, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Never mind. DAVilla 07:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

claim
I assume it is a bug. I can only see the top half of the page, but I can see the full editing script. I cant see any sort of nowiki in the edit page. - Algrif 17:23, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
 * OK found it. missing trans-bottom. - Algrif 17:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

free-form, free form and freeform
There are 2 definitions of the same term in these page. Cumeo89 18:25, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

 * See my changes. If you find such instances in the future, you are welcome to edit.
 * This isn't really a "bug report" since it doesn't concern the software. DAVilla 18:39, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Transclusions on protected pages
Unprotected pages that are transcluded on protected pages and would normally show edit tabs do not, despite the subpage itself being editable if the user is knowledgeable enough to find it. DAVilla 02:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

 * If the page is that important (like the Main page) then "cascading protection" can be switched on which stops the subpages from being editable. Or are you saying something else, in which case could you give a link? Conrad.Irwin 23:32, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

 * What I said is true of Votes, which does not have cascading protection turned on. You have to log out to see that nothing on the page is editable, although Votes/2008-01/IPA for English r for instance is. DAVilla 04:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Votes is semi-protected, which is why it is not editable by anonymous users. Special:Log shows that it was protected for "edit=autoconfirmed" by Connel in September 2006. Mike Dillon 06:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Error message
I have a couple of times the last half hour or so gotten the message "Error, Setup.php must be included from the file scope, after DefaultSettings.php" instead of the actual page. As in, a blank page with this as it's only text. It's infrequent, and irregular, so I can't really pinpoint what's been happening. It's occurred both when searching and clicking on existing links. Anyone knows what's going on? \Mike 11:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Something weird
Something is wrong with the database or software. Look at this last change to Template:patrol box. It's just a single letter. But while the old revision can't find the misspelled name in the Template space, the current revision is looking for "patrol box/disply" in the Main namespace. I think it may have something to do with the fact that I overrode a redirect at Template:patrol box/display which was pointing to a page different from the one I was moving there. For a time, the revision history of that page said there was only one deleted edit, but later it was corrected to four. DAVilla 04:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Never mind, the problem was here. I never knew what would happen if a template referenced itself. How strange. DAVilla 16:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Historic note: When templates were first turned on, the vandals of the day set to building recursive (and later, circular) template references which caused over five minutes of disruption. Imagine not being able to save an edit for five minutes!  The horror!  --Connel MacKenzie 06:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Feature request: link all words
Wiktionary! Why isn't every single word in the definition a link back to it's Wiktionary definition by default? That would make Wiktionary unbeatable dictionary source and also if the links turned red that didn't exist would show what words are missing. Paul D.

 * Firefox has that feature built in, and several alternates exsist to doubleclick a word on any website and look up that word here. But Wiktionary prefers to put emphasis only on key terms, as appropriate.  Auto-linking all words prevents proper linking of multi-word terms (e.g. kick the bucket) which would be a horrible loss.  --Connel MacKenzie 19:20, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Okay but 1. Not everybody uses Firefox 2. word groupings could be maintained as needed so that if your kick the bucket gets maintained with brackets around the whole then it's a unit. Otherwise it's good to link to each word independently so you can understand what kick the bucket literally means.

 * Linking every word also puts a very large load in the servers which as we know constantly need updating as more and more people use Wikipedia and friends. Every linked word means a database lookup. Linking just relevant words is a lot less stressful for the servers. Also, many of us don't want every word linked - it's just too distracting. Now what should be possible is for somebody to use the ToolServer to make some kind of tool that shows pages with every word linked, preferably looking at an offline database rather than the main one. It would be a very useful tool but there would be some difficulties including correct parsing to avoid re-linking words that are already linked as a group, and handling apostrophes and hyphens, both of which are sometimes part of a word and sometimes punctuation. Another concern is that Wiktionary is for all languages and quite a few major languages such as Chinese, Japanese, and Thai do not put spaces between words so that any automatic treatment is not really possible and would produce garbage results. — Hippietrail 17:41, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Your general demeanor is troubling. First there should be little or no load on the servers.  Every linked word does NOT necessarily mean a database lookup.  The URL is known only by the word (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/word).  You must be joking about "many of us don't want every word linked".  Because many of US do want every word linked.  Normally when going to a dictionary to find something that is defined with words you also don't understand will result in more lookups.  Distracting? lol that's funny.  Entries still will get parsed so that corrections can be made for apostrophes and hyphens; there's no difference between that and kick the bucket  Chinese & Japanese -- sorry about ya.  This works for the majority of languages.  Anyone who has learned a foreign language knows how beneficitial this feature would be. —This unsigned comment was added by 12.135.52.82 (talk • contribs) 2006-07-14 13:31:03.

 * Anon, your specific demeanor is troubling. Hippietrail is right about the server load. Each page save would require significant database load in order for the server to determine which words should be blue-linked and which red-linked. Did you even bother to look at a URL for red-links before posting above? If not, look at the link for this. Hippietrail is not joking when he says that many of us don't want every word linked. Editors here generally make good decisions about which words to link, as Connel explained above. Note also that only lemmata get full definitions here, so having the software automatically link everything would force the reader to click through the inflected form to get to the entry with meaning. Your anyone who has learned a foreign language knows how beneficitial this feature would be... is not only wrong, but rude. Rod (A. Smith) 04:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Anon1 is right. If all words are entries then they are all blue; meaning no database lookup.

 * This is a pretty good idea. The problem discussed is only to red/blue the words.  What if the color stayed black?  It wouldn't be "distracting", wouldn't require a database lookup but may or may not have an entry.  Just a thought.
 * Hey, why not? I still think phrases should be linked as they are, but otherwise any unlinked word could very easily be linked in black, with no server load at all. DAVilla 05:11, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

 * As a WT:PREF, yes, I could see that. Once they load a page, every word not already linked could get one, from a small Javascript bookmarklet.  If we wanted to get really fancy, they could each be spell-checked and given a red background (if not wikified, and kicked out by the spell check.)  Or course, the toolserver would melt.  (30,000 anon users x 3 pages x 200 words would be a lot of redundant spell checking, for just one day.)  --Connel MacKenzie 09:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

 * We could use the feedback system to gauge how many users would actually like it. As a dictionary we have a slightly different aim than an encyclopedia, but Wikipedia decided against the "Allwiki" idea (see w:Wikipedia:Build the web). --Bequw → ¢ • τ 15:27, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for NAMESPACE:Article
See https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13636 Jidanni 22:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Resolved (to my satisfaction anyway). Conrad.Irwin 23:00, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

cusor
Is it possible to default the cursor to the search box? I have no technical knowledge, just want to be able to access the dictionaries more easily.

 * We would like to make that happen as well, although there are certain technical restrictions with the system that we use. See this thread for more info. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 16:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Weird edit
I recently unified my accounts on Wikipedia. I first visited Wiktionary a few days ago and just made an edit. Then I checked my contributions and found it lists an edit I didn't make. Did someone own this account before I came here? Fisdof9 04:25, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

 * They are probably edits that were transwikied from another Wikimedia site. Mike Dillon 04:39, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Error at gride
At the entry gride, the gerund is given as "grideing" and the past tense is "grideed" (instead of "griding" and "grided". What are we going to do about these words that drop the E? 75.58.19.21 04:22, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Fixed. Just put in the proper forms. —Stephen 11:55, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Internet Explorer 7 search-box
Not sure if this is a bug exactly. For users of Internet Explorer 7, the search box at the top right of the toolbar allows for adding an array of different search providers. In order to do so, you must first go to the home page of the search provider you wish to add, and type the word "TEST" (in all capitals, without the surrounding quotes) into the search box & click "ENTER". You then copy the link from your address bar of the resulting page, and paste it into the "Find Search Providers" form for I.E. Doing so adds the chosen search provider to the drop-down list on your toolbar. I have a number of different providers, of all different types. Wiktionary was one I definitely wanted to add, however, Internet Explorer wouldn't recognize it (an error message pops up saying "the search results URL must contain the word test- please check the URL, etc, etc"). I tried several times, still getting the same error message (despite the fact that the search results URL did contain the word test! Here is the URL: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/test

Maybe because the word TEST, although in all caps in the query, was not in all caps in the results page URL. It would be great to have Wiktionary in my search providers list, but for some reason it will not go through.

 * Did you try pressing "Search", instead of "Go?" -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 23:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I see the problem. If you type "TEST" in the search-box and click "Go", it sends you to . Since we don't have an entry for TEST:, but do have one for test:, that page redirects you to our entry for test:: . You then gave that URL to Internet Explorer, and as you've guessed, it couldn't process that URL, because it contained test instead of TEST . Since this is probably a common problem, I think it might be worth it to us to create an entry for TEST:, perhaps with an -type message. —Ruakh TALK</i > 16:04, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * You realize you answered your own question? Just change "test" to "TEST" in the URL you are entering in the IE box. However a better URL to enter would be  That, of course, doesn't help anyone who doesn't happen to read this ... you might use Firefox, Wiktionary search is built-in. We should create a TEST page I think. Robert Ullmann 16:24, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Added TEST, I think it will help. (If someone actually reads it, they will do even better!) Robert Ullmann 16:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Very strange. I use IE7, but I don't remember ever using that search box. I've just had a look and I've got Google as default + Wiktionary (en) - where did that come from? SemperBlotto 16:27, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

 * There was some widget or code floating around that would add the wikt to IE, before IE7 added the present configuration option. Presumably you must have tried it? Robert Ullmann 16:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Error in Appendix List
I have found a small but annoying problem inthe appendix list. When I try to scroll through the list of appendices, I find that the next page has only one entry-which, strangely begins with the letter G. Mathmagic 00:40, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

WT:WOTDN
Could someone take a look at WOTDN. I'm not sure what is causing the prob. I tried to correct it, but made it worse, so undid. -- <i>A LGRIF </i > talk 14:10, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Fixed. Two relevant aspects of wikisyntax:
 * that anything from  to   is taken to be a comment, and is ignored, almost without exception, meaning that editors can see it when editing a page, but it has no effect on processing; and
 * that a line that starts with whitespace is taken to be "preformatted", meaning that it's displayed somewhat like plain-text;
 * together conspired to create weirdness.
 * —Ruakh <i >TALK</i > 03:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Auto Log Off On Edit Selection
Whenever I select to edit a file for the first time while logged on that day, I automattically get logged off, much to my chagrin. --Dictionman 22:32, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

sv:Wiktionary:Felrapporter

title: Wiktionary:Grease pit/bug reports


text:
𐎱𐎢𐏂

Etymology
From ,(compare 🇨🇬), from (compare 🇨🇬), ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1) son

Descendants

 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)
 * Lari: پس (pus), پسر (pusar)

title: 𐎱𐎢𐏂


text:
𐎭𐎠𐎫𐎶

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)   law

title: 𐎭𐎠𐎫𐎶


text:
𐎠𐎼𐏁𐎫𐎡𐏁

Noun

 * 1) spear
 * 2) weapon

title: 𐎠𐎼𐏁𐎫𐎡𐏁


text:
𐎯𐎢𐎼𐎡𐎹

Etymology
From, from. Compare 🇨🇬.

Adverb

 * 1) afar, far away

title: 𐎯𐎢𐎼𐎡𐎹


text:
𐎠𐎱𐎼𐎶

Adverb

 * 1) after
 * 2) hereafter

title: 𐎠𐎱𐎼𐎶


text:
rakend

Etymology
From.

Preposition

 * 1) concerning, regarding, about

title: rakend


text: Category:Afrikaans prepositions

title: Category:Afrikaans prepositions


text:
dřevěné uhlí

Noun

 * 1) charcoal

title: dřevěné uhlí


text:
𐎱𐎡𐎫𐎠

Etymology
From, from , from (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) father

Descendants

 * Middle Persian: pitar, pidar, pid
 * (pedar)

title: 𐎱𐎡𐎫𐎠


text:
uhel

Etymology
From, from , from , from.

Adjective

 * 1) high

Etymology
, from, from .Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) charcoal stick used for drawing

title: uhel


text: tossed and turned

title: tossed and turned


text:
User talk:DCDuring/2007

The Beginning
Hi there. You might like to read the following welcome links, and then format redintegration according to our standards. SemperBlotto 15:42, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

affect
Hi. Stop inserting copyrighted definitions. Cynewulf 03:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm trying very hard to assume good faith here, so I'm assuming that you're just copying dicdefs from wikipedia, which are either badly written or copyvio.

Since you seem not to care about copyrights enough to look at the bloody link I gave you, let me make it abundantly clear what you did. I'll say this very slowly.

You added:
 * (psychology) the conscious, subjective aspect of an emotion apart from physiological changes.

MW medical contains:
 * the conscious subjective aspect of an emotion considered apart from bodily changes
 * Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary, © 2002 Merriam-Webster, Inc.

Now are you going to stop, or do I get to block you? Cynewulf 03:22, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting one word and changing another is hardly paraphrasing. Cynewulf 03:27, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the new definition. I've replied on my talk page -- let's have this conversation in one place or the other. Cynewulf 03:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Block
Reviewing your recent contributions, I see evidence of wholesale copying. While checking other references to verify that you haven't missed a part-of-speech is helpful, copying material from elsewhere is never useful. Copying material from other dictionaries is always compromising.

I implore you to assist removing your copied material, when you block expires.

--Connel MacKenzie 04:30, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. Sorry. Didn't grasp difference from WP practice. One completely accidental duplication. DCDuring 22:35, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

plurals
Even plurals need a language and a part of speech entry. See the changes to points of view. SemperBlotto 07:14, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

prunus / Prunus
prunus is Latin, Prunus (the genus) is translingual - I don't believe that either of them are English. SemperBlotto 18:53, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Kinds of unemployment
Do you have 's classic book "Economics"? It would be nice if you could check how he defines frictional, seasonal, cyclical and structural unemployment, and if you have the energy and interest, quote them to the appropriate pages. I rewrote classical unemployment. If it is not good enough now, I don't know what might be. I'm sure there are thousands of worse defined terms currently in Wiktionary. Hekaheka 14:50, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I found my old edition (8th) of Samuelson. "Classical unemployment", "seasonal unemployment", "cyclical unemployment", and "frictional unemployment" (and corresponding employment terms) are not in the index. "Structural unemployment", "technological unemployment", and "disguised unemployment" are. The section "Defining structural unemployment" begins "No one has been able to agree on the exact meaning of structural unemployment". He refers to it as so-called "structural unemployment" (in quotes).
 * Personally, I think it is a mistake to include multi-word terms, especially technical vocabulary, in a dictionary without strong indication of use of the term in publications for general readers. In economics, I would go beyond general newspapers and include the business newspapers and general business periodicals. It would help if the term is used without definition in an article, indicating that the audience is expected to know it. DCDuring 16:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

quotations
(e.g. at wash, which I like), the first line starts with #*, second (quote itself), #*: so the quotes have bullets, not numbers. Cheers, Robert Ullmann 14:31, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

get on up
Hi,

We had an edit conflict at get on up, the upshot of which is that I restored the sense that you had added and then removed. If there's a reason you removed this sense and quote, please feel free to re-remove it.

—Ruakh TALK 18:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

 * If you think it makes sense, then we can leave it with your other changes, which are definitely a net improvement. Adding the more ordinary meanings makes more sense of meanings in the cited songs. I could imagine "get on up" as a poetic allusion to an erection, but, without something a bit more obvious, I would have thought that we would just credit James Brown with a little double-entendre and leave it at that. How DOES one attest to double entendres or "hidden" meanings? DCDuring 18:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

However at the end what does "get on up" mean?
However at the end what does "get on up" mean?

 * It means "get up", plain and simple. When directed to one's penis, "up" means means "erect". DCDuring 22:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

hornbook
I really like the good job you did in citing hornbook — especially with referencing the old dictionary. That is exactly as it ought to be done. (Well, except for the format of the reference.) Keep it up! †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 23:49, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

from Algrif
Hi. Not ignoring you. It's just that a 90 page technical translation landed in my inbox on Monday. They want it for Friday if not before!!! Algrif 12:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Hi. There is actually very little written about chunk theory related to language. Mostly you will find glancing references to it in language teaching books that are dealing with TBL techniques. My interest stems from language teaching and the realisation that students at any age do not really learn much from words + grammar. What they learn are patterns and parts of patterns. This applies to any field you care to look at. (Chunk theory info is abundant if you do not restrict searches to language). The problem with standard lamguage reference works is that they all try to explain either words, or grammar. This is all well and good, but what we use in speech are chunks. Take any text at random from a magazine or a general interest article from a newspaper (news is written in journalese chunks. Books, I will mention in a moment), or even this piece I am writing now(!) and analyse it for chunks. These are what Wikt calls Idioms, Set phrases, Phrasal verbs, Collocations, Proverbs, etc. but they go further than that. My interest in Wikt is that it provides an open database that can be conditioned for pattern and chunks search. Just look at all the category functions and appendices, and you quickly realise that this is already happening, even tho most contribs have not even noticed!
 * (I use the star to force a new paragraph) In books, and short stories etc, you will find an interesting phenomenon. A lot of chunks, but also a lot of creative use of chunks. This is where the writer starts a chunk, but finishes it, or applies it, in an unexpected way, causing surprise and interest in the reader. e.g., a writer might put something like "don't look a gift horse in the arse". Or he might talk about a "war of attrition" but apply it to an unexpected situation, like an escalating argument between neighbours. This is one of the things that make reading in another language so difficult, no matter how well you might know the words and the grammar. Journalese chunks is a study in itself. I'm sure I don't need to say more than that.
 * That's it for the moment. I've kept off the subject of memes, because if I start, I'll not finish. Suffice to say that I disagree with just about everything that Dawkins has ever written or said. Algrif 19:04, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Quotations
Hi,

Thanks for all the quotes you've been adding; it's a huge help. :-)  You might be interested in Quotations, which details the formatting we use. (For some of the information we include, you'll need to click the "About this book" link, assuming you're getting these from Google Books.) Thanks again!

—Ruakh TALK 20:57, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

+
By the way, you might be interested in the "+" tab at the top of discussion pages, between "edit" and "history"; it makes it easy to create a new section, with helpful edit summary and everything. :-) —Ruakh TALK 22:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

speedy the entry
Believe it or not, I got jumped on from all sides for putting speedy to my nigger. I checked the contribs of 85.214.73.63 so I thought speedy was correct. I don't want to comment on that entry at all now, publicly, but I still think it stinks of vandalism. Algrif 18:33, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: by extension template
The template doesn't have any effect besides the visible label. Neither does. I believe they were mainly created to make their listings on Special:Wantedpages go away. Another benefit of having them is that users don't have to guess which context labels can be used as top-level templates and which only work when embedded in. They also has the benefit that they can be redirect targets for variant context labels that we want to display consistently. This is currently the case with the redirect from Template:figurative to Template:figuratively, both of which display as "(figuratively)". Hope that helps. Mike Dillon 03:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

cribbage board
Hi. Why the informal tag? Any particular reason? I would say it is the correct term. It is a particular type of pegboard for specific use when playing Crib. (A game I really enjoy, btw!) - Algrif 13:40, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I thought that it was more informal than cribbage board. I defer to your judgment. Informal seems like a completely non-judgmental tag. If I were inventorying property (a document that might end up in court), I wouldn't use a phrase like crib board, though it would certainly be acceptable there. In that context, the meaning of "crib" as in cribsheet would be bothersome, too. DCDuring 14:44, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Did you intend to put the informal tag on crib board? If anything, it should be there rather than cribbage. - Algrif 16:35, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

 * D'oh. Yes that's what I intended. DCDuring 16:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Fixed. Now, feel free to correct it what I intended. DCDuring 16:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: When In Rome
Please see my talk page. --Neskaya talk 02:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

 * Again, I just responded to you on my talk page. --Neskaya talk 06:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Muggle
This def.: A non-specialist; someone lacking a particular skill or ability. 2003, "There are too many flashing lights nowadays for a knight of the road...", in Nursing Standard, May 14, 2003 […] I have finally worked out that the word ECNALUBMA in back-to-front writing translates as 'get out of my way, you Muggle motorist'.

This seems more to be associated with the 1st def., which I believe should have the words "in the works of J.K. Rowling" removed, as it simply means non-magical person.

In muggle, def. 2, (skilled or specialized groups) a person who lacks a skill or is not a member of said group, could this be considered an "outsider", in your opinion? sewnmouthsecret 19:29, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm still trying to just get some quotes together for discussion and place them where they make prima facie sense. I haven't sorted much of anything out. I have gotten a little gun-shy on jumping to conclusions because I find I misinterpret/misread a lot. BTW, the Muggle page is looking a little sick on my browser right now. Two templates (rfd and en-noun) are off. I hope that some roll-back will eventually fix it. DCDuring 19:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

thanks for petit four help!
I thought that might be the case, thanks for clarifying.

toe rag
Umm... that's not the procedure we use for suspect definitions. Usually, we place either an or  tag on the page and list the word on the appropriate discussion page. In this case, you could use, which sits on an individual line which just one sense is in question. --EncycloPetey 00:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

 * If it had been a sense of "rag", I would have done exactly that as I have always done in the past. This was a purported sense of "rag" that was called on the senses line "toe rag". There is simply no way that it could stay in "rag", no matter what else would change. Are my efforts getting too aggressive generally? DCDuring 01:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

 * One problem is certainly that I was interrupted here before completing what I wanted to do, which was tag the new entry (although I had hesitated, recollecting that someone had been soundly berated for tagging their own entry). Sorry and thanks for reminding me. I might not have reviewed and caught the problem. Would it really have been better to leave a sense line for a different entry in rag? DCDuring 01:49, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

 * No, but you could have left it on the main entry page for toe rag. That's the usual place for it.  You're an experienced person here, so I thought I'd just drop off some ideas in passing.  I've often benefitted from notes left by people on my talk page and like to "share the wealth" as it were.  --EncycloPetey 05:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Plurals
Umm... you do know that the way you're formatting those new entries means that they won't be counted towards Wiktionary's page total, yes? Although the template will function fine the way you're using it, the software that counts the number of entries we have will not count a page with no wikilinks. It judges this by looking for the double square brackets around links, so with no such brackets on the pages you're adding, they won't count as "good" entries (it's dumb, but true). The way to rectify this is to place the wikilink brackets around the lemma form inside the template. The template is designed to be capable of handling this for this very reason. So, if you use then the entry won't add to our total, but if you use  then the entry will count. --EncycloPetey 03:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Now you tell me. Where is that writen ? Why doesn't the template default to put the brackets in? DCDuring 03:28, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * No idea, and it probably should. It hasn't been written down anywhere because, frankly, I don't know where to put it to be useful.  Instead I watch Recent changes and alert individuals who seem to create a lot of such entries. --EncycloPetey 04:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I would guess that the same principle applies to verb inflections and comparatives of adverbs and adjectives, right? DCDuring 04:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, though I can't guarantee that all the "form of" templates have been set to accomodate wikilinks. I know all the major English ones have, but there may be some minor templates that haven't, particularly for other languages. --EncycloPetey 04:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

coms
Thanks for catching that, but it doesn't need to be deleted. It can just be switch to the "plural of com". --EncycloPetey 22:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Done DCDuring 22:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

 * No, you moved it to corns; I meant the coms antry could be corrected to be "plural of com" (communication). I've fixed both entries now. --EncycloPetey 22:42, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Same eyesight problem, going to switch to next larger size type. DCDuring 22:43, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

admissability
Odd, dictionary.com doesn't show an entry for admissability at admissability. (I should check my big paper dictionary but it's at home and I'm not.) RJFJR 17:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

 * The main entry in my print MW3 is at "admissibiity", so they agree with WP, g.b.c., et al. as to which is preferred. They tend to be very permissive. That's part of their value as an "authority": they are lax and they are particularly accommodating to US practice. Is "common misspelling" accurate? It isn't very common, relative to the correct spelling, though in absolute terms it is. If it is called alternative, it probably should be called US. Is the usage note good enough? I'm a little confused about what to do. I don't want this to turn into the battle of the "facades". This isn't a case of two equally good spellings (which is at least arguable in the "facade" case). One is better; the other one is acceptable (only?) in the US. What do you think ?DCDuring 17:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm comfortable with either the the usage note or with marking it as a common misspelling. It may be more common in the US (perhaps because of pronounciation reasons).  RJFJR 18:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

rathole
FYI, I was still trying to work on rathole, but I'll let you do your thing and come back later. ENeville 19:13, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Feel free to add what you'd like. We have problems with spurious entries. I can see that at least 2 senses of the verb are readily verifiable. There is also a sense of "hoardng", which is close to the poker sense. The adjective seems obscure, but interesting. Good luck. Usage examples are good. Please don't take an RfV as much more than folks being interested in something that doesn't fit their experience (and might be vandalism). I can see that you are not a vandal. Welcome. DCDuring 19:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

 * No offense taken, I was just running into repeated edit conflicts. I was working on completing a (2-year old) transwiki of ratholing, BTW.  Looking at the citations on that page, I would agree with your doubt of the common acceptance of the two verb meanings currently flagged, as the source looks self-referential.  I didn't find a convenient online citation for "rathole tunnel" that meets Wiktionary specs, but the term does seem to be established, by my estimation (see rathole tunnel at Wikipedia).  Perhaps sources from the era of railways would be more useful.  Do review rathole & ratholing for form, if so inclined.  ENeville 20:58, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

 * P.S. Whoops, the two citations referred to only one meaning. Returned other to ratholing.

The adj. sense makes little sense to me. I find it hard to imagine how it would function as an adjective. What noun would it modify, "tunnel"? It may be that a noun sense should be expanded or added to include places other that residences. DCDuring 00:07, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I think you're right. Bad grammar on my part.  The entry should be "rathole tunnel". ENeville 00:27, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Abbreviation POS header
The standard, the way I understand it, is that we do not use the Phrase POS header when another does better; for example, if a phrase is a verb, then we list it as a Verb, not as a Phrase. I assume (though I haven't seen anyone say this) that the logic is as follows: It's obviously a phrase (count the number of words, and see that there's more than one), so use the Verb header to show that it's also a verb (which is not as obvious).

 * I couldn't agree more. I may have started on that program before I really knew the logic of it, but I don't think I've made too many serious mistakes in this area. DCDuring 23:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

The same would seem to apply to Abbreviation. If something is an abbreviation, but also a noun, then we should list it as a Noun, and put in its definition line (or in its Etymology). That abbreviation info will suffice for people to know it's an abbreviation; and the Noun POS header will give the non-obvious info that readers need: this is almost completely analogous to the phrase case.

This is the way I've been doing it, and it seems the most reasonable way to me. What do you think?

 * It makes much more logical sense to me than inserting an abbreviation family template in the PoS position. I can't actually see the point of differentiating initialisms, acronyms, and abbreviations except for pronunciation and etymology purposes, which would place that info above the PoS line. I does clash with policy or practice, doesn't it? DCDuring 23:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

(The reason I'm writing you is that you made this change to Fx. The change you made removed from the page any indication that Fx is a noun: now readers have no way of knowing whether it's a noun, a verb, or both. Also, it added redundancy: the Abbreviation header is redundant for the template.)—msh210 ℠ 21:02, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I think the problem is nearly universal with abbreviations. Isn't it? I thought I was following some standard practice. I really hadn't put any thought whatsoever into abbreviations. I have been more interested in idioms and dialect/popular/old-timey English, a la Damon Runyon, Bret Harte, Raymond Chandler, Mark Twain, et al., as well as more contemporary slang.

 * I see your logic. I'll look through my "contributions" to see whether I've perpetrated any more outrages of that type. {I'm sure that I've done other types of outrages.) I was just reading today the record of some of the discussions on PoS headers and noted the point made about abbreviation entries needing true PoS indications. I wasn't aware of how it ought to be done. Do you have an ideal model that is more or less consistent with policy the more firmly held practices? In particular, do you have any particular entry that I could view? I assume that you have reversed the change in accordance with your views within whatever policies have actually been set out and I will look at it. Are you thinking of making a proposal at BP or any other forum?

DCDuring 23:53, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I have not reversed the change, if you're referring to Fx: I didn't want to revert you without at least hearing you out first. As far as policy, I don't know if there's even a written-down policy on the Phrase header, let alone Abbreviation: WT:POS has no guidance about what POS header to use when there's a choice of two or more. Fine: I'm bringing it up in the BP (approximately simultaneously with posting this response).—msh210 ℠ 18:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

common collocations
DC, below is your comment from the rfv page, with the sample collocations internally linked. Actually, I may be even more of an inclusionist than you. I'd be pretty content to see every bloody one of them as a WT entry, except, I guess, "at work". All of the rest seem to me to have arguably more than sum-of-parts (and, in some cases, established technical or discipline-specific) meanings. -- WikiPedant 20:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * WPedant: I am curious as to whether there is any common collocation that you would exclude from Wikitionary and on what basis.  Examples: "cause and effect", "house of cards", "dawn of a new day", "all about", "global economy", "at work", "rise and fall", "paranoid delusions" . About all of these I can say that they are set phrases that I have heard many times. I'm quite sure that I could get numerous g.b.c. hits, let alone Google hits. "any time any place" E.g., BP, my talk page or here. DCDuring 20:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * So, you are an inclusionist, close to radical, I suppose. I believe that we ought to be able to make some strong assumptions about the rules of phrase contruction. Mere frequency of collocation would not warrant inclusion, IMHO. I even favor exclusion of phrases where the collocation represents a majority of use of one of the words, provided it is not an overwhelming majority of current use. But, I don't really object to other policies. I just wish that we had more explicit policies. I am also increasingly concerned about the low quality of some senses and the vast numbers of missing important senses for many words in the top 10,000. I worry that proliferation of phrases makes it harder to achieve high quality in those basic entries. DCDuring 21:50, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, inclusionists and Bolsheviks—two of a kind. Anyhow, I do agree that mere frequency is not a sufficient basis for inclusion. The meaning must warrant explication.  I agree too that many existing definitions need work, and I think we are all chipping away to get it done.  But that doesn't mean that worthwhile new entries, even of idioms, should not be created in the interim.  Addition of phrases is not automatically "proliferation" and the result is not automatically clutter.  Actually, I find that it is sometimes when adding an idiom that the basic terms which comprise it get my attention and I end up working on them too.  BTW, sorry, but you didn't seem to be asserting any proprietary interest so I just couldn't resist creating an entry for dawn of a new day. -- WikiPedant 22:15, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

 * As I look at the examples, I wouldn't bother with:

 * 1) global economy because it does not really mean very much at all.
 * 2) at work because it is too trivial.
 * 3) all about, triviality.

The others actually seem OK to me. It was honestly intended to provoke dialog and get some clarification, because your stated justification of mere commonness of collocation seemed unwarranted. I still don't think that "sickeningly sweet" is worth it, whereas sickly sweet does seem to warrant inclusion because the sense of "sickly" in this phrase is not common currently. I'm basically inclusionist, but I think that folks have to be expected to know how to make and interpret phrases. (I would apply the same to words. We need to have a very full set of English prefixes and suffixes! and an Appendix on English word morphology.) DCDuring 22:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

aborn
I think you're confusing yourself.

bear/bears/bearing/born (borne, yborn)

abear/abears/aborning/aborn (aborne)

And of course the meanings shift a bit with usage. His efforts died aborning. does not come from the efforts being "born" in the sense of childbirth, but born or borne in the sense of endurance, but is often thought of that way now.

("abeared"? Seriously? Ever heard "beared" for bear? Illiterately: I grinned and beared it.? No.) Robert Ullmann 18:25, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

 * I definitely was confusing myself. My MW3 doesn't have it inflected. The inflections before I visited the entry included abeared, not aborn. For bear, isn't it bears, bearing, bore, born? I couldn't find "aborn" in g.b.c. which really undermined my confidence. I hope you've cleaned it up. I'll visit again to take a look. I never cease to be amazed at how dealing with words consciously positively interferes with unconscious skill - like the proverbial centipede who was paralyzed after getting instruction in walking. Of course I haven't used any derivatives of abear knowingly, ever, and don't remember reading them, except for "died aborning". DCDuring 18:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

myrrh
Nice tidy-up. But is it really countable? I don't want to change it if I'm wrong ;-) - Algrif 17:48, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

 * 613 raw g.b.c. hits for myrrhs. More than I thought. That's a lot more than for some of our singular forms! I think that the issue really is that it is only in some forms of discourse that plurals are possible. People who study or sell myrrh or use it in some production process are much more likely to find that the plural is useful than just anyone. If you don't know much about myrrh, you won't see the need for a plural. But even a frequent user will find the need to compare different sorts of myrrh. I think this is an excellent model of the generic problem of claims of uncountability. In my efforts at WT, I have found some truly uncountable words or senses and some extremely rare plurals which I have labelled as "uncountable". But I have found many, many more nouns deemed uncountable, where the plural can be found in reasonable abundance at G.B.C. It may be that I need to devote my WT time to searching through all the uncountable nouns and define a sense (typically, a type of "myrrh") that is countable, modify en-noun, and insert the appropriate countable/uncountable tags at the sense level. What do you think? DCDuring 19:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

title: User talk:DCDuring/2007


text: tosses and turns

title: tosses and turns


text: tossing and turning

title: tossing and turning


text:
𐎳𐎼𐎶𐎠𐎫𐎠

Noun

 * 1) commander

title: 𐎳𐎼𐎶𐎠𐎫𐎠


text:
𐎴𐎱𐎠

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) grandson

title: 𐎴𐎱𐎠


text: wards off

title: wards off


text:
𐎧𐏁𐏂𐎱𐎠𐎺𐎠

Etymology
Literally "protector of the realm, province", an agent noun based on and.

Akin to 🇨🇬,, 🇨🇬. Compare the Iranian borrowings: 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and, 🇨🇬 and , 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  governor of a province under Achaemenid Persian rule

title: 𐎧𐏁𐏂𐎱𐎠𐎺𐎠


text: warding off

title: warding off


text: warded off

title: warded off


text:
Kant

Etymology 1
.

Proper noun

 * , a German philosopher.
 * , a German philosopher.

Translations

 * Arabic:
 * Armenian: Կանտ
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * German:
 * Hindi:, कांट, काण्ट
 * Japanese: カント
 * Korean: 칸트
 * Russian:

Etymology 2
From

Translations

 * Kazakh: Қант
 * Kyrgyz:
 * Turkish: Kant
 * Uzbek: Qand

Etymology

 * As an occupational surname for a precentor, from, from.
 * As a habitational surname, from the noun.

Proper noun

 * , notably borne by the German philosopher Immanuel Kant

Etymology
Perhaps directly from, or through , from , from the same. Further from, northern variant of , from.

Pronunciation

 * Homophones:
 * Homophones:
 * Homophones:

Noun

 * 1) edge

Etymology
.

title: Kant


text:
Southern Rhodesia

Etymology
.

Derived terms

 * North-Eastern Rhodesia
 * Northern Rhodesia
 * North-Western Rhodesia
 * Rhodesia

Translations

 * Belarusian: Паўднёвая Радэ́зія
 * Bulgarian: Ю́жна Роде́зия
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Czech: Jižní Rhodesie
 * Danish: Sydrhodesia
 * Dutch: Zuid-Rhodesië
 * French:
 * German:
 * Japanese: 南ローデシア
 * Korean: ^남로디지아
 * Marathi: दक्षिण रोडेशिया
 * Polish: Rodezja Południowa
 * Portuguese: Rodésia do Sul
 * Russian: Ю́жная Роде́зия
 * Slovak: Južná Rodézia
 * Spanish:
 * Ukrainian: Півде́нна Роде́зія

title: Southern Rhodesia


text:
Northern Rhodesia

Etymology
.

Related terms

 * North-Eastern Rhodesia
 * North-Western Rhodesia
 * Rhodesia
 * Southern Rhodesia

Translations

 * Danish: Nordrhodesia
 * Dutch: Noord-Rhodesië
 * French:
 * Marathi: उत्तर रोडेशिया
 * Portuguese: Rodésia do Norte
 * Spanish:

title: Northern Rhodesia


text:
Bechuanaland

Translations

 * Aragonese: Bechuanalandia
 * Danish: Bechuanaland, Protektoratet Bechuanaland
 * Dutch: Protectoraat Bechuanaland
 * Finnish:
 * French: Protectorat du Bechuanaland
 * German: Betschuanaland
 * Greek:
 * Italian: Protettorato del Bechuanaland
 * Japanese: ベチュアナランド
 * Lithuanian: Bečuanalandas
 * Norwegian: Protektoratet Bechuanaland
 * Polish: Beczuana
 * Portuguese: Bechuanalândia
 * Romanian:
 * Spanish: Bechuanalandia
 * Swedish: Bechuanaland
 * Thai: เบชวนนาแลนด์

title: Bechuanaland


text:
hipp hipp hurra

Interjection

 * 1) hip hip hooray

Interjection

 * 1) hip hip hooray

Interjection

 * 1) hip hip hooray

title: hipp hipp hurra


text:
batterí

Etymology
From, from , from.

Noun

 * 1)  battery
 * 2)  a military fortification or shelter such as a bunker

title: batterí


text:
User talk:Tito 22

!! how could i become a real member of this site !![[Media:Example.ogg]]

title: User talk:Tito 22


text: Банкок

title: Банкок


text:
𐎲𐎼𐎠𐎫𐎠

Etymology
From, from , from. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) brother

title: 𐎲𐎼𐎠𐎫𐎠


text:
lychnobite

Etymology
From and.

Noun

 * 1)  A person who works or labors at night and sleeps during the day.

title: lychnobite


text:
𐎣𐎠𐎶

Etymology
From. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) wish
 * 2) desire

title: 𐎣𐎠𐎶


text:
𐎭𐎡𐎺

Etymology
From, from , ultimately from. Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 (whence the first element in 🇨🇬), 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)   foreign god, false god

Descendants

 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *

title: 𐎭𐎡𐎺


text:
𐎶𐎠𐎫𐎠

Etymology
From (compare 🇨🇬), from  (compare 🇨🇬, from  (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 (whence  🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) mother

title: 𐎶𐎠𐎫𐎠


text:
𐎱𐎠𐎭

Etymology
From, , from , thematized form of.

Noun

 * 1) foot

title: 𐎱𐎠𐎭


text:
𐎴𐎠𐎶𐎠

Etymology
From, from , from.

Adverb

 * 1) by name, named, called

Usage notes
Usually after feminine names.

Related terms

 * (nāma)

title: 𐎴𐎠𐎶𐎠


text:
𐎴𐎠𐎶

Etymology
From (compare 🇨🇬), from  (compare 🇨🇬), from  (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, and 🇨🇬 (English )).

Adverb

 * 1) by name, named, called

Usage notes
Usually after masculine names.

Descendants

 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:

title: 𐎴𐎠𐎶


text:
𐎶𐎠𐏃

Etymology
From, from , from.

Noun

 * 1) month
 * 2) moon

title: 𐎶𐎠𐏃


text: Category:Old Persian particles

title: Category:Old Persian particles


text:
𐎴𐎡𐎹

Particle

 * 1) not

title: 𐎴𐎡𐎹


text:
𐎠𐎿𐎶𐎠

Noun

 * 1) sky

title: 𐎠𐎿𐎶𐎠


text:
𐎭𐎼𐎥𐎶

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) long

title: 𐎭𐎼𐎥𐎶


text:
paranumismatica

Noun

 * 1)  exonumia

Synonyms

 * exonumia

title: paranumismatica


text: Category:Old Persian adjectives

title: Category:Old Persian adjectives


text:
𐎭𐎼𐎥

Etymology
From (compare 🇨🇬), from  (compare 🇨🇬), from  (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬).

Adjective

 * 1) long

Descendants

 * ("long")
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *
 *

title: 𐎭𐎼𐎥


text:
𐎭𐎼𐏁𐎶

Adverb

 * 1) greatly
 * 2) mightily
 * 3) steadfastly

title: 𐎭𐎼𐏁𐎶


text:
𐎡𐎭𐎠

Adverb

 * 1) here

title: 𐎡𐎭𐎠


text:
𐎼𐎥𐎶

Adverb

 * 1) quickly

title: 𐎼𐎥𐎶


text:
𐎠𐎺𐎠

Adverb

 * 1) thus
 * 2) as

title: 𐎠𐎺𐎠


text: Gjibraltari

title: Gjibraltari


text:
𐎵𐎢𐎼𐎶

Adverb

 * 1) now

title: 𐎵𐎢𐎼𐎶


text:
𐎺𐎿𐎡𐎹

Adverb

 * 1) greatly
 * 2) utterly

title: 𐎺𐎿𐎡𐎹


text:
𐎭𐎿𐎫

Etymology
From, from , from , from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) hand

title: 𐎭𐎿𐎫


text:
𐎶𐎼𐎫𐎡𐎹

Etymology
From, from , from.

Noun

 * 1) man, mortal man
 * 2) human being

title: 𐎶𐎼𐎫𐎡𐎹


text:
𐎺𐎠𐏃𐎼

Etymology
From, from , ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1) spring

title: 𐎺𐎠𐏃𐎼


text:
𐎠𐎼𐎫

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) truth

title: 𐎠𐎼𐎫


text:
𐎭𐎼𐎢𐎥

Etymology
Ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1) lie untruth
 * 2) * DPd inscription, lines 12–24
 * 𐎰𐎠𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎭𐎠𐎼𐎹𐎺𐎢𐏁 𐏐 𐎧𐏁𐎠𐎹/𐎰𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎶𐎴𐎠 𐏐 𐎠𐎢𐎼𐎶𐏀𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎢𐎱𐎿𐎫𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎲𐎼𐎬𐎢𐎺 𐏐 𐏃𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎻𐎡𐎰𐎡𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐 𐎲𐎥𐎡/𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐 𐎢𐎫𐎠 𐏐 𐎡𐎶𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎭𐏃𐎹𐎠𐎢𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎢𐎼/𐎶𐏀𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎱𐎠𐎬𐎢𐎺 𐏐 𐏃𐎨𐎠 𐏐 𐏃𐎡𐎴𐎠𐎹/𐎠 𐏐 𐏃𐎨𐎠 𐏐 𐎯𐎢𐏁𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎼𐎠 𐏐 𐏃𐎨𐎠 𐏐 𐎭𐎼/𐎢𐎥𐎠 𐏐 𐎠𐎲𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎡𐎶𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎭𐏃𐎹𐎠𐎢𐎶 𐏐 𐎶𐎠 𐏐 𐎠𐎩𐎷𐎡𐎹𐎠 𐏐 𐎶𐎠 𐏐 𐏃[𐎡]𐎴𐎠 𐏐 𐎶𐎠 𐏐 𐎯𐎢𐏁/𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎼𐎶 𐏐 𐎶𐎠 𐏐 𐎭𐎼𐎢𐎥 𐏐 𐎠𐎡𐎫 𐏐 𐎠𐎭𐎶 𐏐 𐎹𐎠𐎴𐎶 𐏐 𐎩𐎮𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎷𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎢𐎼𐎶𐏀𐎭/𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐏃𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎻𐎡𐎰𐎡𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐 𐎲𐎥𐎡𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐 𐎠/𐎡[𐎫𐎶𐎡𐎹 𐏐] 𐎹[𐎠𐎴𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎢]𐎼𐎶𐏀𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎭𐎭𐎠𐎬/𐎢[𐎺 𐏐 𐏃𐎭𐎠 𐏐 𐎻𐎡]𐎰[𐎡]𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐 𐎲𐎥𐎡𐎲𐎡𐏁 𐏐
 * thâtiy : Dârayavaush : xshâyathiya : manâ : Auramazdâ : upastâm : baratuv : hadâ : vithaibish : bagaibish : utâ : imâm : dahyâum : Auramazda : pâtuv : hacâ : hainâyâ : hacâ : dushiyârâ : hacâ : draugâ : abiy : imâm : dahyâum : mâ : âjamiyâ : mâ : hainâ : mâ : dushiyâram : mâ : drauga : aita : adam : yânam : jadiyâmiy : Auramazdâm : hadâ : vithaibish : bagaibish : aitamaiy : yânam : Auramazdâ : dadâtuv : hadâ vithaibish : bagaibish :
 * Darius the King says: May Ahuramazda bear me aid, with the gods of the royal house; and may Ahuramazda protect this country from a (hostile) army, from famine, from the Lie! Upon this country may there not come an army, nor famine, nor the Lie; this I pray as a boon from Ahuramazda together with the gods of the royal house. This boon may Ahuramazda together with the gods of the royal house give to me!

Descendants

 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:
 * Lurish:

title: 𐎭𐎼𐎢𐎥


text:
𐎭𐎠𐎽𐎢𐎺

Etymology
From. Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬 (🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) wood

title: 𐎭𐎠𐎽𐎢𐎺


text:
segheria

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) sawmill

title: segheria


text:
𐎶𐎦𐏁

Etymology
From, from , from , from , as priests were considered capable of powerful feats (though some, including Beekes, are implicitly skeptical).

Noun

 * 1)  Mazdean priest

title: 𐎶𐎦𐏁


text:
नीड

Etymology
From, from , from. The constituent parts are and √, a root related with lying, sitting or sinking. Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) a bird's nest
 * 2) any place for settling down, resting-place, abode
 * 3) the interior or seat of a carriage
 * 4) place, spot

title: नीड


text:
mortalmente

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) fatally
 * 2) deadly

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) in a fatal/mortal manner

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) fatally, mortally

title: mortalmente


text:
sfondamento

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) breaking, crashing
 * 2)  breakthrough

title: sfondamento


text:
sytuacja

Etymology
.  ..

Noun

 * 1) situation
 * 2) fragment of action, especially in a play or movie
 * 3)  situation
 * 4)  position, function, office
 * 1)  position, function, office

title: sytuacja


text:
muletto

Noun

 * 1) forklift

title: muletto


text:
carrello elevatore

Noun

 * 1) forklift

title: carrello elevatore


text:
set free

Verb

 * 1)  To release, to free, to give freedom to.

Translations

 * Arabic:
 * Belarusian: вызваля́ць, вы́зваліць, адпуска́ць, адпусці́ць
 * Bulgarian:, освободя́
 * Catalan: ,
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: ,
 * Dutch: ,
 * Esperanto: liberigi
 * Finnish:
 * French:, rendre libre,
 * German:, ,
 * Gothic: 𐌲𐌰𐌻𐌰𐌿𐍃𐌾𐌰𐌽
 * Greek:
 * Ancient: λύω
 * Hungarian:, , ,
 * Italian:
 * Japanese: ,
 * Korean:, 풀어주다
 * Latin: līberō
 * Lombard: liberar
 * Malagasy:
 * Malay:
 * Malayalam: സ്വതന്ത്രമാക്കുക
 * Maore Comorian: ɓulia
 * Marathi: सोडवणे
 * Mongolian:
 * Cyrillic:
 * Occitan: ,
 * Polish: ,
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian:, , ,
 * Sanskrit:
 * Spanish:
 * Swahili: weka huru
 * Ukrainian: звільня́ти, звільни́ти, відпуска́ти, відпусти́ти

title: set free


text:
propensione

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) inclination, propensity, propension, bent
 * 2) liking

title: propensione


text:
óbundið fornavn

Noun

 * 1)  indefinite pronoun

title: óbundið fornavn


text:
longevo

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) long-lived

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Adjective

 * 1) long-lived having a long lifespan

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) long-lived, long-living, that lives for a long time

title: longevo


text:
longevità

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) longevity

title: longevità


text:
eliminabile

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) eliminable

title: eliminabile


text:
warunek

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) condition

Etymology
. . Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  obligation to take the place of the first defendant in a trial
 * 2)  good quality of goods, appropriate grade
 * 1)  good quality of goods, appropriate grade

Etymology 1
. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) condition
 * 2)  condition; requisite, requirement
 * 3) condition
 * 4)  conditional promotion

Etymology 2
.

Noun

 * 1)  guarding
 * 2)  guard
 * 1)  guard

title: warunek


text:
lesson plan

Noun

 * 1)  A teacher's document used to plan a lesson.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Dutch:
 * Finnish: tuntisuunnitelma
 * Hungarian:
 * Portuguese: plano de aula
 * Spanish:
 * Tagalog: banghay-aralin

title: lesson plan


text:
estorsione

Etymology
From. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) extortion, extorting

title: estorsione


text:
Citations:ripe

riped

 * 1824, Sir Walter Scott, "Redgauntlet" ,
 * And Sir John, when he had riped the turret weel, led my gudesire into the dining-parlour, and took him by the hand, and spoke kindly to him, and said he was sorry he should have doubted his word, and that he would hereafter be a good master to him, to make amends.

 * n.d., Anonymous, "Robin Hood and the Beggar, II"
 * The young men answer'd never a word, / They were dumb as a stane; / In the thick wood the beggar fled, / E'er they riped their eyne.

Dictionary notes

 *
 *

title: Citations:ripe


text:
influenzale

Adjective

 * 1)  flu, influenza

title: influenzale


text:
galleria d'arte

Noun

 * 1) art gallery

title: galleria d'arte


text:
positivamente

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) positively

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) positively in a positive manner
 * 2) expressing a positive answer
 * 1) expressing a positive answer

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) positively

title: positivamente


text:
własny

Etymology
., an inherited. .

Adjective

 * 1) own
 * 2) legally binding
 * 1) legally binding

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) own
 * 2) own
 * 3) own
 * 4) own
 * 5) proper, appropriate
 * 6)  inheritable; rightful
 * 1)  inheritable; rightful

title: własny


text:
capo d'abbigliamento

Noun

 * 1) item of clothing

title: capo d'abbigliamento


text:
capo di abbigliamento

Noun

 * 1) item of clothing

title: capo di abbigliamento


text:
scape

Etymology 1
From, from. Doublet of native 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  A leafless stalk growing directly out of a root, bulb, or subterranean structure.
 * 2) The basal segment of an insect's antenna (i.e. the part closest to the body).
 * 3) The basal part, more specifically known as the oviscape, of the ovipositor of an insect.
 * 4)  The shaft of a column.
 * 5)  The apophyge of a shaft.

Derived terms

 * scape-wheel

Translations

 * Bulgarian:
 * Czech:
 * Esperanto: skapo
 * Finnish:
 * French:
 * Maori: kōrari
 * Polish: głąbik
 * Romanian:
 * Russian:, ,

 * Finnish:
 * French:

Etymology 2
Formed by aphesis from escape.

Verb

 * 1)  to escape
 * 2) * c. 1600,, Elegy IX: The Autumnal, in Poems (1633)
 * No spring nor summer beauty hath such grace
 * As I have seen in one autumnal face.
 * Young beauties force our love, and that's a rape,
 * This doth but counsel, yet you cannot scape.

Noun

 * 1)  escape
 * 2)  A means of escape; evasion.
 * 3)  A freak; a slip; a fault; an escapade.
 * 4)  A loose act of vice or lewdness.
 * 1)  A loose act of vice or lewdness.
 * 1)  A loose act of vice or lewdness.

Etymology 3
Probably imitative.

Noun

 * 1) The cry of the snipe when flushed.
 * 2) The snipe itself.

title: scape


text:
powinien

Etymology
+ (predicative short form -en). . Compare 🇨🇬.

Adjective

 * 1)  obligated; forced to doing something
 * 2)  as ought; owed
 * 1)  as ought; owed

Etymology
. . Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  ought; should
 * 2)  ought; should
 * 3)  ought; should
 * 4)  ought; should

title: powinien


text:
CRB

Proper noun

 * 1) corporate records binder

title: CRB


text:
niver

Etymology
From, from.

Noun

 * 1) number, numeral

Adverb

 * 1) never

Noun

 * 1) university

Etymology
Seemingly from, a verb based on.

Verb

 * 1) to snow

title: niver