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what film studio produced Showgirls? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.49.196.232 (talk) 05:23, 9 October 2002 (UTC)
 * MGM David de Paoli]] —Preceding undated comment added at 16:57, 9 October 2002 (UTC)

I don't recall Nomi pushing Crystal down the stairs? Wasn't it someone else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dgrant (talk • contribs) 08:30, 21 November 2003 (UTC)
 * No, it was definately Nomi! It was the major turnaround in the plot where Nomi's character changes from "innocently involved in a bad world" to "turned bad." It's also the drive behind her conflict with other character for the rest of the movie (She gets into a fight with her best friend Molly over it and there's a good 3 minutes of footage of them arguing over it because Molly saw the dancer who claims that Nomi was nowhere near Cristal when she fell, and that dancer was looking the other way. That dancer, in turn, is covering for Nomi because Nomi covered for her when she threw the beads on the floor and injured the black dancer previously.) Drama! In the final scene Cristal forgives her, saying "There's always someone younger and hungrier coming down the stairs behind you." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.48.180.113 (talk) 05:05, 2 October 2004 (UTC)

I read somewhere that European reaction to the film was more positive than American reaction -- and that French critics view it as a critique of American consumer culture. A blurb about that might be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malvolio80 (talk • contribs) 19:38, 7 December 2004 (UTC)
 * Hardly surprising - Europeans are more concerned with violence in movies (as opposed to nudity), whereas the American audience can't stand seeing naked human bodies. --Bicycle repairman 23:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem with this movie wasn't the nudity. The problems were a mediocre plot, terrible dialogue, and bad acting. MK2 16:31, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Also notable, it infactually states Nomi pushed Cristal down the stairs to get ahead, but that isn't the case. It's a point of plot contention because those who *do* know that Nomi did, in fact, intentionally push Cristal think she did it to get ahead, when in fact it was an un-meditated, rash reaction to Cristal's treatment of Nomi onstage in the preceeding dance number. 151.197.51.96 05:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * "Europeans are more concerned with violence in movies..." That's not true, not here in Sweden anyways. We haven't had movie-censorship of any kind since "Casino" (ie 1995). Addicted2Sanity 05:13, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
 * But the movie was also brutally violent. So how does the movie's content factor into differing reviews in Europe? (Exempting Sweden, of course.) Verminjerky (talk) 13:35, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

Missing content regarding the films NC-17 rating
There is some interesting facts regarding the films NC-17 rating that should be included in my opinion such as: If I find the time I will dig up sources for the above info and ad it myself. --Cab88 11:02, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * It was at the time, and likely still is the most widely distributed NC-17 film in the U.S.
 * In order to convince many theaters that normally would not show an NC-17 film to show this one, the distributers offered their own security guards to ensure no minors would be able to enter the theaters where it was showing.
 * Some anti-obscenity groups, especially some Christian based groups, picketed some theaters for showing the film. This led some theaters that had been showing the film to withdraw it.
 * Supposedly, the filmakers originally thought they could use this film to show audiences outside major cities that NC-17 films wheren't simply porno films in disguise. Supposedly, the criticism of how the sexual content was treated in the film was said to give the NC-17 rating a negative connotation with many American audiences causing many studios for a time to avoid releasing films with a NC-17. Instead they where such films would be cutting for a R-rating or released unrated. The moderate success of the NC-17 film The Dreamers, apparently made studios more comfortable releasing NC-17 art films again.

Rape Scene
I feel like the comments RE: the rape scene need to be referenced or cited, but I'm not sure how. A search on google for "rape scene in showgirls" brings up 21 results, and all of them lead to online discussions which discuss the scene unfavorably. It seems to be almost universally loathed, yet I can find no one authoritative citation of this fact. Pacian 06:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Loathing is an appropriate response to a rape scene. The American audience is too used to seeing rape exploited simply as a plot point in an entertainment, so it's refreshing--if disturbing--to see a rape scene portrayed as horrifically as it is in Showgirls. See "I Spit on Your Grave" for another example of a film that makes it abundantly clear that the rape scene is not intended for entertainment. As brutal as the rape scenes are in these movies, it's clear that both of them are anti-rape movies. So the scene has fulfilled its purpose. (Frankly, I'm a bit repulsed when someone suggests that the rape scene in Showgirls should somehow be softened.)lissener 05:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Version on TNT
Hilariously the version of this I am watching on TNT right now has bras and other clothing "drawn on". I feel like I'm watching some warped version of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. Haven't seen any nudity whatsoever. 70.189.213.149 09:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Lost Character?
Sorry, I saw this movie many years ago and it was so bad that I "escaped" far before the end... But it seems to me that there were a character not cited in the plot section of the article... he was a black boy, friendly with her, that told her he studied a new dance just for her. They almost have sex, but she quits -her "problems", what a good taste for a movie! Bah!-. Later in the movie she returns to this friend and she finds him with another woman, telling her he created a new dance just for her (only to have sex...). Is it right? Is this part of this movie? If yes, although only a sub-plot, it completes the picture of a false and cruel entertainment industry, so I think it should be included in the article. Bye! --151.27.7.179 (talk) 23:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Trivia section removed from entry
The following bits o' trivia were removed from Showgirls entry. I'm posting them here on the remote chance someone can justify their inclusion.

 * In The Simpsons episode Brother's Little Helper, Marge and Homer see the movie on their date.
 * During a The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air episode, Will goes to see the movie eight times with one time being on a date.
 * In an episode of Family Guy called Hell Comes to Quahog, Peter says that cable always ruins things. Then a cut-off shows Peter laying on his bed watching TV when an announcer says "And now back to Showgirls... on TBS", which disappoints him.
 * In the Family Guy album Live in Las Vegas, fictional reporter Tom Tucker describes his association between Las Vegas and Showgirls; specifically, his fantasy of "Elizabeth Berkley and Gina Gershon having girl-on-girl sex". Kinkyturnip (talk) 03:34, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Why is the film so poorly regarded?
I cannot understand why this film is so mocked. Sure there is a *lot* of nudity but once you get past that the acting's not so bad nor is the script so terrible. There are plenty worse films. I think it has a certain kitschy charm. Any comments?  SmokeyTheCat   •TALK•  20:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Totally agree. My feeling is that the average american movie-goer simply doesn't want to cope with movies that present certain facets of life without sanitizing them in the ritualistic manner which have become commonplace in most films. The 'kitschy' aspect is certainly there, and has eluded most moviegoers completely. Just as much as what happened with Verhoeven's other movie, Starship Troopers. They're both essays on violence: Showgirls deals with sexual and interpersonal violence, Starship Troopers deals with militaristic violence and institutionalized xenophobia (against an alien species). But both appear to promote that violence, at least at first sight; most people could not get past that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.84.19.198 (talk) 07:29, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Disagree but agree. There are plenty more awful films, but the lead performance... whether it be the fault of the lead or the director/script... is overwhelmingly stilted and stereotypical. If it's taken as intentional camp, as Verhoven may actually have intended, it's actually a little brilliant. I'm obliged to point out the initial dance club scene where Nomi incites a minor riot. It's pretty awful, BUT it's done to the musical background of David Bowie/Trent Reznor's "I'm Afraid of Americans", which I think elevates it a little for the implication. ---D--- (talk) 12:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is obviously sympathetic toward the movie, trying hard to show that it wasn't such a failure, it was the NC-17 rating and "controversial" sex subjetc the one to blame for the poor performance in theaters (not the script, or the acting, or etc) and (like practically all bad movies and box office bombs in Wikipedia) is regarded as a "cult film". It has became a fashion to brand as "cult film" all failure films in Wikipedia--Dereck Camacho (talk) 01:03, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the article says three times that the film made $100 million from video rentals and became one of MGM's top 20 all-time bestsellers who wrote this? Verhoeven? --Dereck Camacho (talk) 01:12, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

The 'Sexploitation' Label
I don't understand how distilling this film down to the single adjective 'sexploitation' really communicates to the reader what Showgirls is. I don't doubt that some people have seen the film because of the nudity and sexuality, but I think they are the disappointed, they are the ones who label it bad.

The reason Showgirls has achieved cult status is that audience 'gets' it for what it is -- for what all Paul Verhoeven's (American) films are -- ironic comedy, camp.

Gina Gershon has been widely quoted as saying that she played her role so that drag queens would want to dress as her on Halloween.

I think the term 'sexploitation' is misleading, and limiting, and I think it should be removed. BigJohnSF (talk) 15:33, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

References to use

 * Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.

 * —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erik (talk • contribs) 02:20, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Motive of the rape ?
Andrew tries to get closer to Nomi. She introduces her friend. Andrew participates the rape, but does not penetrate her himself. This happens just after Kristal has been hurt. This sounds revenge to me. They wanted to hurt Nomi, but could not get together with her, so they decided to hurt her by proxy. Just my toughts... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.152.161.130 (talk) 17:52, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Reevaluation section
I could have sworn I have seen some writing about this film comparing it to the works of Russ Meyer, in particular his Beyond the Valley of the Dolls which when compared in broad strokes does touch on many of the same notes as Showgirls. I can't find the source so I can't add this to the article, but I'm putting this here in case anyone else is able to find such a citation. With the film being reevaluated as a "serious satire" (to quite the article), it isn't unrealistic to compare it to Meyer who made similar films that were as much about satire and social commentary as they were sexploitation. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 18:20, 6 February 2015 (UTC)

How does one create a category for NC-17 rated films
How does one create a category for films that are rated NC-17 on Wikipedia? I feel that there should be one. If anyone has any information on how this category can be created, please share. Thanks very much.Frschoonover (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
 * A category for R-rated films was previously created and deleted, so I suspect that one for NC-17 films would eventually be deleted. There is a List of NC-17 rated films article, though, which may serve a similar function. Trivialist (talk) 01:54, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

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Requested move 28 June 2020

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus to move. Technically I should not be the one closing this since I participated in the discussion, but no one else has stepped up, the close goes against my own !vote, and the absence of consensus at this point has become glaringly clear, with recent participation trending strongly against the proposed move. Both the current title and the proposed title are permissible titles for this topic, and precedents can be found for both potential schemes, so the discussion comes down to a matter of preference among competing policies, not a single overriding policy mandate. There is no apparent appetite for a proposed alternative of pointing the title to the disambiguation page, Showgirl (disambiguation). If anyone disagrees with my closing due to my involvement in the discussion, ping me in the morning and I'll revert myself. BD2412 T 06:16, 23 August 2020 (UTC) Showgirls → Showgirls (film) – The primary topic for this title is showgirl, which seems to be acknowledged by its listing at the very top of Showgirl (disambiguation). This title should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to showgirl. Note that there is also Show Girl (1928 film), so this page may be better titled as Showgirls (1995 film). Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC) —Relisting.  Steel1943  (talk) 22:40, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, I was thinking of closing this discussion to the same result the other day, so I endorse this close as uninvolved. Steel1943  (talk) 20:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Disambiguate although showgirl seems to be primary by long-term significance by usage the film is probably so per WP:NOPRIMARY redirect to Showgirl (disambiguation) or create a plural DAB page.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Leaving disambiguate per the discussion below, should indeed not be redirected to singular though. I would agree that "(film)" is sufficient.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:PRECISE and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Not sure if that's a typo in the nom, but the film is clearly titled Showgirls, not Showgirl, and in any event |Showgirl pageviews show the film getting almost 7x the views of showgirl. - Station1 (talk) 18:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose, per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Allan Rice (talk) 00:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:SMALLDETAILS doesn't appear to apply since as noted there is an error in the request and showgirl(s) is a countable noun just like car(s) per WP:PLURALPT.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:12, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support to append "(film)" after the nom changed to plural. Mikus (talk) 04:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support moving Showgirls to Showgirls (film) as a clear primary topic plural. Can you guess what the film, Showgirls, is about? BD2412  T 22:52, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Support after has corrected typo in template, good housekeeping work. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Showgirl (disambiguation) In ictu oculi (talk) 10:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks, @In ictu oculi. I have fixedIn ictu oculi] the nomination.
 * Sorry, my nomination contained crucial typos. Please can your review the revised nomination. --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 12:46, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * (response to ping) I had assumed the lack of the s might be a typo, so my previous comment stands. The film is the clear primary topic for the title "Showgirls". Station1 (talk) 18:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * @Station1 it seems utterly bizarre to assert that a film named X is the primary topic for X. Do you hare any evidence for your assertion? --  Brown HairedGirl  (talk) • (contribs) 20:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes. I already presented it in my original comment. Please view |Showgirl this chart showing pageviews for Showgirls and showgirl over the past 90 days. It shows that about seven times as many users read the article about the film as read the article about showgirls, even if we assume every person reading the showgirl article first landed on Showgirls by mistake (very unlikely). At least 1500, and more likely over 1700, people per day want to read about the film, while only a couple hundred want to read about showgirls. If Showgirls is turned into a redirect, it would mean that only a fraction of people reaching that link would be on the article they want, while the large majority would have to click on a hatnote to get to the article they want. That is a disservice to the majority. Station1 (talk) 21:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If you want additional evidence, just Google "showgirls -wikipedia" (without quote marks) and look through the first few pages of results. Station1 (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Particularly the 2nd criteria, see Cars/Cars (film) example at WP:PLURALPT and Cats/Cats (musical) (a level 5 vital article) for example.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Oppose. I think WP:SMALLDETAILS does apply here. See Window vs. (Microsoft) Windows. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:PLURALPT is probably what you mean but Cars v Cars (film) and Cats v Cats (musical) are similar to this though maybe not completely due to the larger view difference here.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:48, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:SMALLDETAILS says "Plural forms may in certain instances also be used to naturally distinguish articles" and then references WP:PLURALPT. But "car(s)" and "cat(s)" are very common nouns, and a reader searching their plural form will most likely be looking for the singular article subjects, which is why their plurals should redirect to them. "Showgirl(s)" is a much less common noun, and I think someone searching for "showgirls" is more likely to be searching for the film article, which is why WP:SMALLDETAILS should apply here. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:54, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Retarget to Showgirl (disambiguation) as a compromise per Crouch, Swale. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 02:19, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support move to Showgirls (1995 film), and redirect the plural to the singular, with a hatnote there to the DAB of course. Really, if we think that this obscure piece of erotica is the primary topic for a fairly common English term, then it's just another piece of evidence of what a failure the whole concept of primary topic is. It's certainly notable for its cult following. But both those looking for the film, and those looking for or linking to the plural of showgirl, will more likely assume that showgirls will lead them to the singular. Most readers don't know or care about our stupid rules. So, does pointing showgirls to the film improve Wikipedia? Does it make it easier for anyone to find the article they want? Not a chance. Andrewa (talk) 13:59, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It would IMO be even better to move the DAB to the base name of course, and give up on P T here. But I'm not sure Wikipedia is ready for this. The important thing for now is, we do need a move. See the link in below. Andrewa (talk) 17:34, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support since "showgirl" and "showgirls" are easily interchangeable for the primary topic. Strippers redirects to stripper, for example. Gambler and gamblers redirect to gambling. Film directors redirects to film director. No one will be WP:ASTONISHed to land at the primary topic. No issue with using hatnotes. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:01, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose. To me, the film is the clear primary topic for the plural form. Call it WP:ASTONISH or whatever you like. I would expect "Showgirls" to be about that film. It gets 7x the views of showgirl per above evidence, and I don't think the generic showgirl is such a well-used long-term-significance term (like bell or apple would be) that those page views should be overridden in the plural version of this name. Per 's comment which I've just seen here, "the primary consideration used to be the reader, and still should be". Readers will be served best by the current arrangements as they stand now. — Amakuru (talk) 21:36, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. Clear primary redirect. -- Necrothesp (talk) 23:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It really isn't. Just Google the term "showgirls" and see what comes up... The primary topic for the plural form is overwhelmingly the film. Even when you Google in the singular the film still crops up a lot. The argument seems to be predicated on the fact that the generic showgirl, which was apparently a thing in Paris and Vegas at one time, and for which we have just a low-quality stub article, is vastly more significant than a mainstream film that came out in the 1990s and has vast coverage in reliable sources (often for the wrong reasons!). It just doesn't stack up. — Amakuru (talk) 07:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * It really is. The film is directly derived from the primary topic. Just because a film is named after a common topic doesn't mean it gets to trump that common topic as primary. Common topics have long-term significance. "Showgirls" as a common topic has a large historical and cultural meaning. Showgirls were a thing before the film, and they continue to be a thing regardless of the film. Examples:
 * Burlesque west: Showgirls, sex, and sin in postwar vancouver
 * Baseball, Apple Pie, and Burlesque Queens: Nationalism in Walt Kuhn's Portraits of Showgirls
 * Showgirls and stars: Black-cast revues and female performers in Britain 1903-1939
 * Mammy Goes to Las Vegas: Showgirls and the Constancy of African-American Female Stereotypes
 * Gangster, Gamblers, Showgirls and Revolutionaries in 1950s Cuba
 * In contrast, a simplistic Googling does not indicate anything substantive. Thanks, Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 11:58, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Just because the title of the film is derived from another article topic does not mean that the film can't still be the primary topic as the plural form. If it's more likely that someone searching for "showgirls" is looking for the article on the film, then the film certainly can be the primary topic, and Google search results are actually pretty good evidence of what someone searching a particular term is likely looking for. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:54, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Exactly. The city of Boston in Massacusetts is directly derived from the smaller English town of Boston, Lincolnshire, but nobody would suggest the latter should be the primary topic. It's clear that of the two usual WP:PTOPIC criteria, common usage favours the film so the only real question we have to answer is whether "long-term significance" means we should set aside the common usage. For major concepts like apple or bell that's fairly clearcut. But for showgirl? Very dubious IMHO. Its long-term significance is limited, particularly given that it doesn't seem to be something that exists much anymore, even in Vegas. — Amakuru (talk) 09:32, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm not convinced that this is similar to the Boston example since they are 2 very different places miles away from each other with the only similarity being the name while in this case the film is intended to invoke the generic meaning so it could be argued that WP:DABCONCEPT somewhat applies. But I do agree that in this case the generic meaning probably isn't primary due to its smaller views and the fact the article doesn't have that much content unlike Apple and Cars. I'm not strongly against keeping this here but no primary topic might well be best.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 17:42, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Strong Oppose. Thanks to for pointing out the rules support the current title over the proposed title, but following the rules is not the main reason to oppose. It’s because following the rules makes a better encyclopedia. Anyone using the WP search box with the search term showgirls is almost certainly looking for this article about the film. Let’s not send them to some other article, or to a god forsaken dab page. This practical argument for optimizing user experience is supported by policy in WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (this article is viewed 7x more than Showgirl), WP:SMALLDETAILS, and WP:PLURALPT; policy designed to make the best possible experience for users. —В²C ☎ 07:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think the rules support the current title at all! As so often, they're not clear either way, as evidenced by the variety of opinions above as to their application. We all know that you hate to arrive at a DAB page, but for most readers, loading a DAB is a win. On the other hand, going to the wrong article is a loss for anyone, as is not recognising the article they want because we've put it at an ambiguous title which they think means something else. Ah yes, you regard a DAB as a wrong page. We have agreed to disagree on this I think, but your view is important so thanks for raising it, and for the ping. A DAB gets me quickly and unambiguously to the article I want, so for me it's a win. Andrewa (talk) 09:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * just interjecting in this thread here: we can agree to disagree on the pros and cons of whether to land the readers on this page as PTOPIC first, or the dab page first, I know you have a longstanding opinion that primary topics may not serve readers best, which is fair enough. But your !vote above appears to advocate neither, instead suggesting we should make a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to the considerably less viewed and (to me at least) somewhat obscure topic that is the stub at showgirl. I still favour retaining the current status quo, as I don't think anyone would deny that the majority of readers typing "Showgirls" into the search box would be seeking the film. But if we really have to do a move, then targeting the dab page is vastly better than redirecting to showgirl. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 09:26, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Very good point and I have modified my !vote above accordingly. Andrewa (talk) 02:31, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support Anyone typing "Showgirls" into the search box who would be seeking the film would only be helped by the film being suggested back to them as Showgirls (film), and Showgirls (1995 film) would be even better. Only committed Wikipedian editors know without hesitation that a title, which could be singular, present as a plural, must be a composition title.  Singular/plural is too small a SMALLDETAIL.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:17, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * This assertion would be correct if showgirl were the primary topic for the plural term "showgirls". Like "bells" and "apples" are primary topic in either singular or plural. This case is different though, because in the plural form the film is clearly primary per heavy favouring in common usage, offsetting the possible long-term significance because the Vegas/Paris term is still somewhat obscure, unlike bells and apples. Since Showgirls is not a contender for the singular "showgirl" but it is primary topic for "showgirls", it's correct in this case to separate them out. For similar examples see Windows vs window, Airheads vs airhead etc. — Amakuru (talk) 08:56, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I really don’t see your contention. Showgirls is the plural of showgirl. The movie could have been about a singular showgirl, or multiple showgirls.  The movie is not a particularly important topic.  The encyclopedia likes, strongly, to have singularly titles, and plurals going to the singular.  Windows is an extraordinarily internationally prominent topic, so it is very special.  Airhead is a particularly obscure topic. These are not rule setting precedent examples. The Vegas/Paris term is obscure? Google searching both terms shows, ignoring the 1995 movie, the same long term topic, decades to centuries, and it being quite international.  Images from the 1995 movie gets prominence due to the exact title match matching sentences matching image captions, and these are search engine artefacts, not scholarly significance. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:25, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nomination; Crouch, Swale; BD2412; In ictu oculi; King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠; Andrewa; Erik; Necrothesp and SmokeyJoe. Would support either Showgirls (film) or Showgirls (1995 film), but would prefer Showgirls (1995 film). —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 22:30, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per Born2cycle, this is clearly the primary topic, and someone typing in this instead of the shorter "showgirl" is much more likely looking for the film, not the occupation. —Locke Cole • t • c 07:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Support per nom and WP:PLURALPT. No need for the year as far as I can see. -- Netoholic @ 08:39, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * WP:PLURALPT says the opposite of what you are implying it says. It says we should assess the plural primary topic separate from the singular. — Amakuru (talk) 08:57, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * "the normal situation is that a plural redirects to its singular". In this case, I place the basic plural over the film named after the basic topic. -- Netoholic @ 09:02, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * You are literally arguing the opposite of what the linked page says. "A plural form is treated like any other topic", something you haven't attempted to do at all - you're simply trying to invoking some sort of "default" redirect to the singular. The bullet points then go on to say "Since normally users can be expected to search/link for/to topics using the singular form, searching/linking with a plural form is likely to be for a topic named with the plural form, when applicable" with the example that Queens which doesn't redirect to Queen. Again, exactly the same situation here. — Amakuru (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment (already !voted above): To me this situation is quite different from Talk:Clerks (1994 film). In this case, we are comparing a film which is quite well-known against a profession which is not so well-known. In the other case, we are comparing a relatively obscure film against a very common profession, so there Clerks is an obvious WP:PLURALPT to me. However, Showgirls doesn't quite rise to the level of household name like Windows. Hence I reaffirm my support for disambiguation. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠</b> 03:01, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * REQUEST FOR ADMIN CLOSE would request that this RM be closed only by an admin given that (i) we have had at least two poor non-admin closes in relation to WP:PRIMARYTOPIC yesterday and at Move Review now. (ii) misunderstanding of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC as WP:PRIMARYTITLE in several oppose above. (iii) The compromise suggestion Retarget to Showgirl (disambiguation) as a compromise per Crouch, Swale, means that several of the oppose arguments have been neutralised. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:28, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I don't think that "compromise" neutralizes the opposes. It certainly doesn't neutralize mine. A second RM can be opened after this one is closed regarding the proposal to retarget to a disambiguation page. But the close for this RM should stick just to the original proposal. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Either way the request here is for an ADMIN CLOSE. We could re-run, but it looks like a forgone conclusion, cf Jaws (film) not just Jaws. Incidentally why aren't the opposers trying to move Jaws (film) to plain Jaws, how is this different? In ictu oculi (talk) 21:40, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Why aren't the supporters trying to retarget Windows to Window or Window (disambiguation)? Every case is different, and we have to look at each case to determine what the best option is. Maybe Jaws (film) should be moved, but that's a question for a different RM discussion. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Rreagan that's True. Although targeting to a dab is preferable to a straight redirect to showgirl, it is still a distant second choice in terms of the right thing to do for readers. The film is far and away the primary topic (and probably the primary title too, although I have no idea what that means). And anything other than the status quo is simply making life harder for readers for no great benefit. — Amakuru (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes I would (weakly) support having no primary topic for "Windows" (but I would oppose making the building part primary). I think also that there is no clear primary topic here which is why I support the move but oppose redirecting to the singular title. the reference to PRIMARYTITLE is probably to cases like Talk:People from Ibiza (song), Talk:Novae and Talk:Roulettes where many oppose arguments were simply arguing that because the topic was the only one that could be placed at the title the topic was primary. That doesn't appear to have happened as much though here and more policy based arguments against have been presented here.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk )  16:34, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * ah fair enough, well that makes sense. Of course, the notion that there's no such thing as a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT is always debunked, and the fact that a particular topic enjoys a different title is rarely a consideration in these debates. But the flipside of that argument has to hold sway too. Just because there is some WP:DICDEF term existing at a singular name doesn't mean the plural or other SMALLDETAILS-separated name is automatically *not* a contender for its own title. Each individual term, singular or plural, Airplane or Airplane! should be evaluated on its own terms, independent of others. I've noticed that you routinely favour disambiguation pages in these discussions, which is fair enough, and maybe is a good compromise where common usage and long-term significance clash seriously. In this case I just don't see that as being the case. The DICDEF showgirl simply isn't a major enough topic, with its |Showgirl 200 page views per day. Apple or bell it is not. And IMHO is just isn't significant enough to kick out the film even just to a dab page, given that the latter has with 10x the page views, albeit that it was a ratings flop and not everyone finds porn movies tasteful. — Amakuru (talk) 19:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes while many inexperienced editors (or at least those who don't commonly participate in primary topic RM discussions) don't realize PRIMARYREDIRECT they often also don't get SMALLDETAILS either. An interesting example is Cricket v Crickets where both the sport and insect are contenders for the singular but only the insect is for the plural meaning either the plural should go to the insect or DAB but not the sport. I think that there are reasonable points for either disambiguation or keeping it as is. I do definitely find you're point that the singular titled topic is not that much more than a DICDEF and 10x views convincing which is definitely not the case with the likes of Apple or Cars that are commonly cited for PT#2. So indeed I would be happy for this to be kept as is.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Oppose Per WP:PLURALPT, the plural form serves as adequate disambiguation. Those who choose to search for a plural version of the title can easily make their way their through the hatnote. That page views for this subject also dominate over showgirl is also helpful in this.--Yaksar (let's chat) 07:38, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per PLURALPT.  Calidum   08:24, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose Technical mumbo jumbo move that only inconveniences readers. Showgirls itself has a combined 4 million views across the project and the article is in 22 other Wikis,, meanwhile showgirl itself only has 500k views all together and in 9 diff wikis. The 1928 film has 67 total views, probably helped by this discussion. . this will only inconvenience our readers at the cost of wikipedias technical worries. what exactly does this achieve for our readers? GuzzyG (talk) 23:54, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:PLURALPT. It's extremely unusual for a plural form to have any sizeable fraction of the pageviews of the singular form, let alone a multiple of those pageviews. This is clearly a separate primarytopic from "showgirl". Dohn joe (talk) 00:42, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Oppose per WP:PLURALPT, the movie is the primary topic for the pluralized version of the word, a hatnote covers the rare case of confusion. SnowFire (talk) 23:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Note that Category:Showgirls is about the preformer in general, maybe that should be renamed to disambiguate if this is kept to avoid confusion though it could probably be argued that this article should be in there anyway as a sub topic since its about showgirls.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:33, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Discussion
Comments on the broader issues welcome at User talk:Andrewa/P T examples and scenarios. TIA Andrewa (talk) 16:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Major source
This deep and readable consideration of the film looks at the views of it as, distinctively, camp, awful, great, satire and accurate, and could power much of this article: How Showgirls exposed the rot of our misogynistic culture, BBC. - Onanoff (talk) 15:39, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Showgirls (soundtrack) into Showgirls
Couldn't find enough independent coverage primarily discussing the soundtrack itself to justify keeping it separate. This article from Billboard is a start, but everything else I saw only mentioned the soundtrack briefly among other discussion of the film overall. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

 * I support merging it since there isn’t enough coverage. @QuietHere Spectrallights (talk) 17:28, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

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Vicenza

Vicenza (, ; Vicensa ) is a city in northeastern Italy. It is in the Veneto region, at the northern base of the Monte Berico, where it straddles the River Bacchiglione. Vicenza is approximately 60 km west of Venice and 200 km east of Milan.

Vicenza is a thriving and cosmopolitan city, with a rich history and culture, and many museums, art galleries, piazzas, villas, churches and elegant Renaissance palazzi. With the Palladian villas of the Veneto in the surrounding area, and his renowned Teatro Olimpico ("Olympic Theater"), the "city of Palladio" has been listed as a UNESCO World Heritage Site since 1994.

In December 2008, Vicenza had an estimated population of 115,927 and a metropolitan area of 270,000. Vicenza is the third-largest Italian industrial centre as measured by the value of its exports, and is one of the country's wealthiest cities, in large part due to its textile and steel industries, which employ tens of thousands. Additionally, about one fifth of the country's gold and jewelry is made in Vicenza, greatly contributing to the city's economy. Another important sector is the engineering/computer components industry (Federico Faggin, the microprocessor's co-inventor, was born in Vicenza).

Roman era
Vicentia was settled by the Italic Euganei tribe and then by the Paleo-Veneti tribe in the 3rd and 2nd centuries BC. The Romans allied themselves with the Paleo-Veneti in their fight against the Celtic tribes that populated north-western Italy. The Roman presence in the area grew exponentially over time and the Paleo-Veneti (whose culture mirrored Etruscan and Greek values more so than Celtic ones) were gradually assimilated. In 157 BC, the city was a de facto Roman centre and was given the name of Vicetia or Vincentia, meaning "victorious".

The citizens of Vicetia received Roman citizenship and were inscribed into the Roman tribe Romilia in 49 BC. The city was known for its agriculture, brickworks, marble quarry, and wool industry and had some importance as a way-station on the important road from Mediolanum (Milan) to Aquileia, near Tergeste (Trieste), but it was overshadowed by its neighbor Patavium (Padua). Little survives of the Roman city, but three of the bridges across the Bacchiglione and Retrone rivers are of Roman origin, and isolated arches of a Roman aqueduct exist outside the Porta Santa Croce.

During the decline of the Western Roman Empire, Heruls, Vandals, Alaric and his Visigoths, as well as the Huns laid waste to the area, but the city recovered after the Ostrogoth conquest in 489 AD, before being conquered by the Byzantine Empire soon after. It was also an important Lombard city and then a Frankish center. Numerous Benedictine monasteries were built in the Vicenza area, beginning in the 6th century.

Middle Ages
In 899, Vicenza was destroyed by Magyar raiders.

In 1001, Otto III handed over the government of the city to the bishop, and its communal organization had an opportunity to develop, separating soon from the episcopal authority. It took an active part in the League with Verona and, most of all, in the Lombard League (1164–1167) against Emperor Frederick I Barbarossa compelling Padua and Treviso to join: its podestà, Ezzelino II il Balbo, was captain of the league. When peace was restored, however, the old rivalry with Padua, Bassano, and other cities was renewed, besides which there were the internal factions of the Vivaresi (Ghibellines) and the Maltraversi (Guelphs).

The tyrannical Ezzelino III from Bassano drove the Guelphs out of Vicenza, and caused his brother, Alberico, to be elected podestà in 1230. The independent commune joined the Second Lombard League against Emperor Frederick II who sacked the city in 1237, after which it was annexed to Ezzelino's dominions. On his death the old oligarchic republic political structure was restored – a consiglio maggiore ("grand council") of four hundred members and a consiglio minore ("small council") of forty members – and it formed a league with Padua, Treviso and Verona. Three years later the Vicentines entrusted the protection of the city to Padua, so as to safeguard republican liberty; but this protectorate (custodia) quickly became dominion, and for that reason Vicenza in 1311 submitted to the Scaligeri lords of Verona, who fortified it against the Visconti of Milan.

Vicenza came under the rule of the Republic of Venice in 1404, and its subsequent history is that of Venice. It was besieged by the Emperor Sigismund, and Maximilian I held possession of it in 1509 and 1516.

Early modern era
Vicenza was a candidate to host the Council of Trent.

The 16th century was the time of Andrea Palladio, who left many outstanding examples of his art with palaces and villas in the city's territory, which before Palladio's passage, was arguably the most downtrodden and esthetically lacking city in Veneto.

After the Fall of the Venetian Republic in 1797, under Napoleonic rule, it was made a duché grand-fief (not a grand duchy, but a hereditary (extinguished in 1896), nominal duchy, a rare honor reserved for French officials) within Napoleon's personal Kingdom of Italy for general Caulaincourt, also imperial Grand-Écuyer. One of the consequences of the city's occupation was the destruction of a prized silver model of the city, the Jewel of Vicenza.

19th century and later
After 1814, Vicenza passed to the Austrian Empire. In 1848, however, the populace rose against Austria, more violently than in any other Italian centre apart from Milan and Brescia (the city would receive the highest award for military valour for the courage displayed by revolutionaries in this period). As a part of the Kingdom of Lombardy–Venetia, it was annexed to Italy after the Third War of Italian independence.

Vicenza's area was a location of major combat in both World War I (on the Asiago plateau) and World War II (a focal center of the Italian resistance), and it was the most damaged city in Veneto by Allied bombings, including many of its monuments; the civil victims were over 2,000. The end of World War II was followed by a period of depression, caused by the devastation during the two world wars. In the 1960s, the whole central part of Veneto, witnessed a strong economic development caused by the emergence of small and medium family businesses, ranging in a vast array of products (that often emerged illegally) that paved the way for what would be known as the "miracolo del nord-est" ("miracle of the northeast"). In the following years, the economic development grew vertiginously. Huge industrial areas sprouted around the city, massive and disorganized urbanization and employment of foreign immigrants increased.

Vicenza is home to the US Army post Caserma Ederle (Camp Ederle), also known as the U.S. Army Garrison Vicenza. In 1965, Caserma Ederle became the headquarters of the Southern European Task Force, which includes the 173d Airborne Brigade. In January 2006, the European Gendarmerie Force was inaugurated in Vicenza.

Geography
Vicenza lies in the Veneto region, at the northern base of Monte Berico, where it straddles the Bacchiglione River. Vicenza is approximately 60 km west of Venice and 200 km east of Milan.

Demographics
In 2007, there were 114,268 people residing in Vicenza of whom 47.6% were male and 52.4% were female. Minors (children ages 18 and younger) totalled 17.17% of the population, compared to pensioners, who number 21.60%. This compares with the Italian average of 18.06% (minors) and 19.94% (pensioners). The average age of Vicenza residents is 43 compared to the Italian average of 42. In the five years between 2002 and 2007, the population of Vicenza grew by 3.72%, while Italy as a whole grew by 3.85%. The current birth rate of Vicenza is 9.16 births per 1,000 inhabitants compared to the Italian average of 9.45 births.

In 2010, 83.5% of the population was Italian. From 1876 to 1976 it has been calculated that over 1,000,000 people from the province of Vicenza have emigrated, with more than 3,000,000 people of Vicentino descent living around the world (most common migrational currents included Brazil, the United States, Canada, Australia, Germany, France, Belgium and Switzerland) escaping the devastation left by poverty, war and sickness. Today, almost 100,000 Vicenza citizens live and work abroad and the city has morphed from a land of emigration to a land of immigration. The largest immigrant group comes from the United States (about 9,000 people, partly due to the presence of the military base). Other ethnic minorities comes from other European nations (the largest being Serbia, Romania, and Moldova), South Asian (the largest being Bangladesh and Pakistan), sub-saharan Africa, and North Africa (largest is from Morocco). The city is predominantly Roman Catholic, but due to immigration, it now has some Orthodox Christian, Muslim and Sikh followers.

Architecture

In 1994 UNESCO inscribed "Vicenza, City of Palladio" on its list of World Heritage Sites. In 1996, the site was expanded to include the Palladian villas outside the core area, and accordingly renamed "City of Vicenza and the Palladian Villas of the Veneto".

Palladio's works
Vicenza is home to twenty-three buildings designed by Palladio. Famous examples include:

 * Basilica Palladiana, centrally located in Vicenza's Piazza dei Signori, of which Palladio himself said that "it might stand comparison with any similar work of antiquity"
 * Teatro Olimpico, designed for the Accademia Olimpica (Olympic Academy) and begun to be built in 1580, when Palladio died. The wooden scenes are by Vincenzo Scamozzi.
 * Villa Almerico Capra (also known as "La Rotonda"), located just outside the downtown area
 * Palazzo Chiericati, home of the city pinacotheca
 * Palazzo Barbaran da Porto, home of the Museo Palladio
 * Palazzo del Capitaniato, home of the city council
 * Palazzo Porto
 * Palazzo Porto in Piazza Castello (incomplete)
 * Palazzo Thiene Bonin Longare (built by Vincenzo Scamozzi)
 * Palazzo Thiene
 * Villa Gazzotti Grimani, in the frazione Bertesina

Churches
Some of the main historical churches:
 * Cathedral of Vicenza (church of Santa Maria Annunciata), dating from early in the 11th century, and restored in the 13th, 16th, 19th and after the ruinous destruction of World War II, possesses a number of paintings and sculptures, nearly all of them by Vicentine artists; the dome and north side door were designed by Andrea Palladio.
 * Basilica Sanctuary of Saint Mary of Monte Berico: the structure was completed in two stages, creating two churches in different styles: the first in 1428 in Gothic style, the second in 1703 by Carlo Borella, designed as a late-baroque style basilica. The adjacent convent, houses The Supper of Saint Gregory the Great, a large canvas by Paolo Veronese. The bell tower (1826) was designed by Antonio Piovene. The basilica commemorates two apparitions of Our Lady to Vincenza Pasini, a pious woman who lived in a village in the province, and the liberation of the city from a terrible plague.
 * Basilica of Santi Felice and Fortunato: church built in the 4th century within a Roman cemetery and expanded in the 5th century to house the relics of the martyrs Felice and Fortunato. In the 9th century, the city, and the church, were razed by the Hungarians; by the 10th century, the church had been re-erected by the bishop Rodolfo with the support of Emperor Otto II. It has the layout of a paleochristian basilica, initially rectangular, then doubled in width and divided into three naves. After the Hungarian invasions, the Benedictines built a new baptistery and the semicircular apse, adding the bell tower and the rosette, as well as a series of blind arches and a Byzantine cross in front. In later centuries, the interiors underwent a radical alteration, enriching it with Baroque altars and decorations. A 20th century restoration removed many of these embellishments. Next to the church there is a small museum exhibition with archaeological finds from the church and from the nearby Roman necropolis.
 * Santa Corona: one of the oldest and most important churches of the city, this 13th century church first endowed by the bishop of Verona, the Blessed Bartholomew of Breganze, to shelter one of the thorns from Christ's crown. It was under the purview of the Dominicans after the death of Ezzelino III da Romano. It houses paintings by Montagna (The Magdelene), Bellini (Baptism of Christ) and others; the crypt hosts the Valmarana chapel by Palladio. The church underwent a major restoration in 2012.
 * San Giorgio in Gogna: one of the oldest churches in the city, built before the year 1000 with a Romanesque façade. The outer walls consist of agglomerates of different materials (brick, stone, marble salvaged from other buildings) are clearly a demonstration of the origin of the construction craft, which can be seen especially in the polygonal apse. It was restored by the diocese in 2011.
 * San Lorenzo (1280): church built by minorites in mixed Gothic and Lombard Romanesque styles. Located along Corso Fogazzaro facing the central Piazza San Lorenzo, it hosts the tombs of illustrious Vicentines and is served by the Conventual Franciscans.
 * Santa Maria Nova: late 16th-century church is the only religious architecture designed and built by Palladio in Vicenza, apart from the Valmarana chapel and the limited interventions in the cathedral.
 * Santa Maria in Araceli (1244): church later refurbished by Guarini in Baroque style, formerly belonged to the Clarisses, contains statues by Orazio Marinali and Cassetti, and the reproductions of original altarpieces by Piazzetta and Tiepolo (now at the Pinacotheca Civica).
 * Santa Maria of the Servites: church in Piazza Biade adjacent to the Piazza dei Signori, was commissioned in the early 15th century by the order of the Servants of Mary. The church portal was executed in the studio where Andrea Palladio worked at the beginning of his career and would be one of his earliest works. In the cloister, in 1319, the miracles of St. Philip Benizi de Damiani took place.
 * Santa Maria Etiopissa (1154): a simple stone and brick structure church.
 * San Marco in San Girolamo (early 18th century): late baroque church built by the Discalced Carmelites on a previous convent and church of the Jesuati. The architect is unknown, but inside it is clear the influence of the style of the Venetian Giorgio Massari. After the Napoleonic abolition of the religious orders and their convents, it became in 1810 the church of San Marco, one of the oldest parishes in the city. It hosts many works by Vicentine and Venetian artists of the early 18th century, including some masterpieces. The sacristy preserves the complete original furniture of the time.
 * San Vincenzo: church dedicated to Saint Vincent of Saragossa – ancient patron of Vicenza – overlooks Piazza dei Signori, facing the Basilica Palladiana, interrupting the smooth texture of the Palazzo del Monte di Pietà. The church was built between the 14th and the 18th centuries. The baroque façade (1614–1617) hosts two lodges with three arches, in Corinthian and composite style. The lodges are surmounted by a crown with Christ mourned by angels by Giambattista Albamese, also author of the five statues in the pediment. Behind the lodge there is the ancient church of 1387, offset in relation to the building that has incorporated, with the altar facing east. The interior of the church, as amended in 1499 and again in the 18th century by Francesco Muttoni, was restored in the 1920s. It hosts the ark of Simone Sarego (14th century), the impressive altar, rococo work of Bernardo Tabacco, and the altar of Pietà, masterpiece of a young Orazio Marinali (1689). Within the porch, a red marble stele is engraved with the ancient official linear measures of the Community of Vicenza.
 * Sant'Agostino: church built upon older buildings in the 14th century, the ancient convent of Saint Augustine is located on the western outskirts of the city, giving its name to the parish and to the frazione. The abbey church was rebuilt in Romanesque style during the rule of Cangrande della Scala between 1322 and 1357. The church has a rich decoration and a large altarpiece of 1404 by Battista da Vicenza.
 * Oratory of San Nicola da Tolentino: finished in 1678 on commission of the fraternity of St. Nicholas, it is a chapel that houses a series of paintings focused on the life of the saint, among the highest levels of the measured Baroque of Vicenza.
 * The Churches of the Carmini (1372) and St. Catherine (1292), formerly belonging to the Humiliati, possess notable pictures.
 * Santa Croce (1179)
 * Santi Filippo and Giacomo (12th century)

Secular buildings

 * The Torre Bissara (clock tower) (1174), at 82 meters high, is one of the tallest buildings.
 * The Biblioteca Civica Bertoliana, a public library founded by Count Giovanni M. Bertolo and opened in 1708
 * Casa Pigafetta (1440), house of Antonio Pigafetta
 * The Pinacotheca Civica houses mainly Vicentine paintings in the Palladian Palazzo Chiericati.

Libraries

 * Biblioteca Civica Bertoliana, a public library founded by Count Giovanni M. Bertolo and opened in 1708
 * International Library La Vigna, a specialized library

Economy and infrastructure
The surrounding country is predominantly agricultural. Major products are wine, wheat, corn, olive oil (in the Barbarano area) and cherries and asparagus are a particularity of Bassano. There are also quarries of marble, sulphur, copper, and silver mines, and beds of lignite and kaolin; mineral springs also abound, the most famous being those of Recoaro.

Massive industrial areas surround the city and extend extensively in the western and eastern hinterland, with numerous steel and textile factories located in the Montecchio Maggiore, Chiampo and Sovizzo area in the west and Camisano Vicentino and Torri di Quartesolo in the east, areas characterised by a disorganised and extensive cementifaction.

Elite sectors are the jewelry and clothing factories. Important vicentino clothing firms include: Diesel, Pal Zileri, Marzotto, Bottega Veneta, Marlboro Classics etc. The Gold Exposition is world-famous and it takes place in Vicenza twice a year (January and September).

Other industries worthy of mention are the woollen and silk, pottery, tanneries, and musical instruments. The headquarters of the bicycle component manufacturer Campagnolo and the protective wear for sports manufacturer Dainese are located here.

Transport
Vicenza railway station, opened in 1846, forms part of the Milan–Venice railway, and is also a junction of two branch lines, to Schio and Treviso, respectively.

Sport
Vicenza is home to Vicenza Hurricanes American Football team which currently plays in League 2. Founded in 2009, the Hurricanes have a junior team and a senior team with a roster of 35+ athletes.

Vicenza is home to football club L.R. Vicenza Virtus, formerly Lanerossi Vicenza and Vicenza Calcio, which currently compete in Serie C. Their home venue is the Stadio Romeo Menti.

Vicenza is home to Rangers Rugby Vicenza, a rugby union team who compete in Serie A2.

Cuisine and popular dishes
Vicenza's cuisine reflects its humble, agricultural past: simple, hearty meals made with fresh local ingredients that reflect the province's geographical diversity.

Unlike Venetian cuisine where fish reigns supreme, game meat, cheeses and vegetables take center stage accompanied by polenta, soft from the stove or day-old sliced and grilled over the fireplace embers, better yet cooked in a pan under the spit where it lightly fries in meat drippings to create a crunchy golden outer crust.

Vicenza is known for its simple dishes, and often famous cheeses, fruits, ingredients and wines, such as sopressa vicentina, Asiago cheese, Marostica cherries, Nanto truffles, Bassano del Grappa asparagus and Breganze Cabernet wine.

 * Baccalà alla vicentina
 * Risi e bisi (rice and green peas)
 * Polenta e osei
 * Bigoli all'arna (thick fresh egg noodles with duck ragout)
 * Putana (in this case not the vulgar term meaning "whore", but a fruit cake traditionally made with poor ingredients such as old bread or polenta and dried fruit such as raisins)

The inhabitants of Vicenza are jokingly referred to by other Italians as mangiagatti, or "cat eaters". Purportedly, Vicentini turned to cats for sustenance during times of famine, such as during World War II.

People

 * The Bloody Beetroots, band
 * Tekoser Malatesta, YPG International fighter
 * Amy Adams, American actress
 * Lewis Albanese, Medal of Honor recipient during Vietnam War
 * Giovanni Maria Angiolello, traveller and historian
 * Francesco Aviani, painter
 * Sebastiano Carlise, singer and writer
 * Giuseppina Bakhita, saint
 * Flavio Albanese, architect
 * Roberto Baggio, football player
 * Fernando Bandini, writer
 * Valerio Belli, sculptor and engraver
 * Maria Bertilla Boscardin, saint
 * Ottavio Bertotti Scamozzi, architect
 * Miki Biasion, rally driver
 * Marzia Bisognin, YouTube celebrity
 * Gelindo Bordin, athlete
 * Roberto Busa, religious and informatic engineer
 * Aulus Caecina Alienus, Roman general
 * Gentullio "Tullio" Campagnolo, bicycle component maker and inventor
 * Domenico Cerato, priest and architect
 * Francesco Chieregati, papal nuncio and bishop
 * Bartolomeo Cittadella, painter
 * Carlo Cracco, chef and television personality
 * Luigi Da Porto, writer
 * Alby Sabrina Pretto, ballerina
 * Almerico da Schio, astronomer and inventor
 * Otello De Maria, painter
 * Ilvo Diamanti, political scientist
 * Federico Faggin, inventor
 * Adolfo Farsari, photographer
 * Ferreto dei Ferreti, historian (14th century)
 * Antonio Fogazzaro, writer
 * Antonio Giuriolo, partisan
 * Graziano Giacomello, musician, composer, producer and artisan bag designer
 * Jessie James, singer
 * Fedele Lampertico, economist, writer and politician
 * Niccolò Leoniceno, medic
 * Paolo Lioy, naturalist
 * Luigi Meneghello, writer (professor at University of Reading)
 * Romeo Menti, football player of the Grande Torino, died in the Superga air disaster
 * Francesco Muttoni, architect
 * Andrea Palladio, architect
 * Goffredo Parise, writer
 * Antonio Pigafetta, explorer, companion of Ferdinand Magellan
 * Guido Piovene, journalist and writer
 * Joseph Pivato, Canadian writer and academic, born in Tezze sul Brenta
 * Orlando Pizzolato, athlete
 * Sergio Romano, diplomat and historian
 * Paolo Rossi, football player
 * Mariano Rumor, politician
 * Sonia Gandhi, Indian politician, wife of former Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi
 * Flo Sandon's, singer
 * Vincenzo Scamozzi, architect
 * Gian Antonio Stella, journalist and writer
 * Sharon Tate, American actress and model. She attended Vicenza American High School.
 * Tiziano Treu, politician
 * Vitaliano Trevisan, writer and actor
 * Gian Giorgio Trissino, humanist and poet
 * Antonio Turra, botanist and physician
 * Guido Vedovato, painter
 * Nicola Vicentino, theorist and composer
 * Giacomo Zanella, writer and priest

Twin towns — sister cities
Vicenza is twinned with:
 * 🇫🇷 Annecy, France, since 1995
 * 🇩🇪 Pforzheim, Germany, since 1991
 * Wuxi, China, since 2006
 * 🇺🇸 Cleveland, Ohio, U.S., since 2009

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