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catamitism

Noun

 * 1) The practice of keeping catamites.
 * 2) * 1686: Gatien de Courtilz de Sandras and Ferrand Spence, The Hiſtory of the Life and Actions of that Great Captain of his Age the Viſcount de Turenne, page 312:
 * [T]he Viſcount de Turenne…Remonſtrated to Madam de Buillon, that this Prince having us’d his firſt Wife Ill, whom he had kick’d when with Child, of which ſhe dy’d, ‛twas expoſing her Daughter to the like treatment; that he was addicted to Wine and Women, Qualities not only unworthy a Perſon of his Rank, but allſo to a little Catamitiſm…
 * 1) * 1996: Jacqueline Long, Claudian’s In Eutropium: Or, How, When, and Why to Slander a Eunuch, page 80:
 * Libanius’s invective against Philip successively despises barbarian origins in and of themselves, mocks dependency, rebukes failure to learn cultural values, snidely notes catamitism, drowns practical achievements in the immorality alleged to have won them, and further damns character with accounts of unproductive vice[.]
 * 1)  The essence of being a catamite.
 * Libanius’s invective against Philip successively despises barbarian origins in and of themselves, mocks dependency, rebukes failure to learn cultural values, snidely notes catamitism, drowns practical achievements in the immorality alleged to have won them, and further damns character with accounts of unproductive vice[.]
 * 1)  The essence of being a catamite.
 * 1)  The essence of being a catamite.

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Wiktionary:Purpose/taskforce

Charged with detailing a purpose for the English Wiktionary.

Participants
Add your name to the bottom.
 * --Daniel. 15:57, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Mglovesfun (talk) 16:16, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Conrad.Irwin 23:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Suggested timeline
I reckon this will take a while to sort out, but unless some thumb is kept on the pulse it will die and disintegrate like so many proposals here. I suggest to have idea-splurging for a month, finishing 2010-5-30, by which time we'll have a clear idea of the direction we want to head. Clarifications and updates for a fortnight (probably involving WT:BP) 2010-6-13, and start a vote for acceptance on or around 2010-6-20 after a final clean up. Conrad.Irwin 23:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Ideas
The purpose should be explained in terms of why we need/want a Wiktionary, and whose existence we want Wiktionary to improve. Policy issues such as how exactly we should achieve this shouldn't need stating here, but hopefully what this page creates will give us a sound base to start building a dictionary that makes coherent sense. Conrad.Irwin 23:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Details
Things I think we should include:

 * Making content re-usable.
 * We want to help native english speakers, english learners, EFL students, english students learning foreign languages, people interested in characters and symbols.

Food for thought
"So what have we done then? Why The Century Dictionary Online? It needs to be emphasized, though the marketers and publicists referred to above are loathe to do so, that no dictionary can satisfy everyone's requirements completely. This is one reason that there are so many specialized dictionaries of various kinds: learner's dictionaries, technical dictionaries, dictionaries of slang, dictionaries of regional or historical English, bi-lingual dictionaries, dictionaries of new words. It is also why there are general dictionaries of different sizes: school dictionaries, pocket dictionaries, concise dictionaries, collegiate dictionaries, and, of course, the so-called unabridged dictionaries, though these expensive, flagship products seem to have become a rare, perhaps even a dying breed. With paper books, the decision about which kind of dictionary you actually needed was relatively easy to make. If you needed quick information about relatively common words, you needed a book you could hold in one hand and perhaps carry around with you, a pocket dictionary or a collegiate, but not a six-inch thick three-column affair or one in multiple volumes. If you were a scholar, on the other hand, and had to find out about rare or even obsolete words, a collegiate, in spite of the appellation, simply didn't have enough words (collegiates typically define fewer than 200,000 terms).

The advent of online dictionaries has changed this 'rule of thumb' in interesting ways. It is hard to tell from an online user interface and even from the look of some entries just what kind of dictionary you are dealing with, and thus whether it is really what you need. Another rule of thumb, unfortunately true for the most part with online dictionaries as with those sold as books, is that the cheaper it is, the less you have. To get access to the unabridged wordlist of the OED, even if you have no special taste for its Anglicized spellings, pronunciations, and general approach, you have to pay out a considerable amount of money. You can get the little Webster's and the little American Heritage free, on the other hand, but a little dictionary is all you are getting. There is a free version of the 1909 edition of Webster's New International Dictionary which has a few more, if older, terms than a modern collegiate, but it is a fairly sloppy affair and considerably smaller than the revised version of the same edition which appeared only a few years later. Unfortunately, its initial keyboaders, in addition to introducing errors, neglected to preserve such important information as the pronunciations and Greek words in the etymologies. This is a noble effort to provide a full-sized, free dictionary to the Internet community, but its flaws of design and execution make it unlikely to trouble any dictionary publisher's sleep. What might be called the Internet dictionary gap remains. Why The Century Dictionary Online — http://global-language.com/CENTURY/" Conrad.Irwin 19:59, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

title: Wiktionary:Purpose/taskforce


text:
μοναστηριακός

Adjective

 * 1) of a monastery, monastic

Related terms

 * (monastery)
 * (monk)
 * (monk)

title: μοναστηριακός


text:
bancable

Adjective

 * 1) bankable (certain to bring profit)

title: bancable


text:
Talk:plot structure

Deletion debate
SOP: it means the structure of a plot. What sort of structure that is (rising action, et al.) is encyclopedic, not part of the definition. —msh210℠ 16:49, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Yet another waste of user/contributor time, energy, and bandwidth. DCDuring TALK 21:01, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:51, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Per Msh210, that's an example of a plot structure, not a definition. It would be like saying orange juice is a definition of fruit juice. Mglovesfun (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, please, per above. ---> Tooironic 01:35, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Done. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:40, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:plot structure


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bidimensionality

Noun

 * 1)  The condition of being bidimensional

title: bidimensionality


text: Category:Translingual citations

title: Category:Translingual citations


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dilogarithm

Noun

 * 1)  The form of polylogarithm having a base of two

title: dilogarithm


text:
trilogarithm

Noun

 * 1)  The form of polylogarithm having a base of three

title: trilogarithm


text:
fuzzifying

Adjective

 * 1) That fuzzifies

title: fuzzifying


text:
fuzzify

Etymology
or.

Verb

 * 1)  To subject to fuzzification.

title: fuzzify


text:
interplaying

Adjective

 * 1) Mutually or reciprocally interacting

Noun

 * 1) interplay

title: interplaying


text:
miscalibration

Noun

 * 1) An incorrect calibration.

title: miscalibration


text:
nonparametrically

Adverb

 * 1) In a nonparametric manner

title: nonparametrically


text:
sociodynamics

Noun

 * 1) social dynamics

Related terms

 * sociodynamic

title: sociodynamics


text:
social dynamics

Noun

 * 1)  The study of interactions within and between societies.

title: social dynamics


text: fuzzifies

title: fuzzifies


text:
assabentar

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to inform; to let know
 * 2)  to find out, to learn, to come to know, to hear
 * 1)  to find out, to learn, to come to know, to hear

Verb

 * 1) to inform
 * 2)  to stay informed

title: assabentar


text: asagar

title: asagar


text:
asaigar

Etymology
From, from , corresponding to.

Verb

 * 1) to water cover with water

title: asaigar


text:
subtus

Etymology
From. Compare.

Descendants

 * Balkan Romance:
 * Dalmatian:
 * Italo-Romance:
 * Salentino: suttu
 * Padanian:
 * Northern Gallo-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Italo-Romance:
 * Padanian:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Insular Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Balear:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Northern Gallo-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Italo-Romance:
 * Padanian:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Insular Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Balear:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Insular Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Balear:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Insular Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Balear:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Southern Gallo-Romance:
 * Balear:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Valencian:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:

title: subtus


text: arríder

title: arríder


text:
asclar

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to chip, to splinter

Etymology
From, from , from.

Verb

 * 1) to cleave split in two

title: asclar


text:
veggie burger

Noun

 * 1) A burger containing a patty made without meat or other animal products.
 * 2) A burger patty made without meat or other animal products.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Estonian: juurviljaburger
 * Finnish: kasvishampurilainen
 * French: burger végétarien
 * German: Bratling
 * Italian: hamburger vegetariano
 * Japanese: ベジ バーガー
 * Russian: вѐджибу́ргер
 * Spanish: hamburguesa vegetariana

title: veggie burger


text: veggie burgers

title: veggie burgers


text:
mucegai

Etymology
, from, the same source as. Formed similarly to. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) mold, mildew
 * 2) moldiness, mustiness

title: mucegai


text:
arroïnar

Etymology
. Compare Spanish and Portuguese, French , Italian.

Verb

 * 1) to ruin destroy
 * 2) to ruin spoil

title: arroïnar


text:
muced

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) moldy, musty, fusty, mildewed

title: muced


text:
animal product

Noun

 * 1) Any product, such as a food, ingredient, fiber, hide, or fertilizer, made from the meat, bones, skin, hair, or other parts of an animal.

Translations

 * Japanese: 動物製品
 * Portuguese: produto animal
 * Swedish: djurprodukt

title: animal product


text:
mucidus

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) moldy, musty
 * 2) sniveling

title: mucidus


text: animal products

title: animal products


text:
Citations:interperformance

 * , Loreto Todd, "Cultures in Conflict: Varieties of English in Northern Ireland", in, 1989, Ofelia García and Ricardo Otheguy, editors, English Across Cultures, Cultures Across English, Mouton, ISBN 0899255132, page 346 :
 * Different styles have been recorded: anecdotal (usually one informant + me), instructional (parent explaining a skill to a child, for example, how to use a sewing machine), formal (high tea with guests), party (including singing, recitations and interperformance banter) and wake.
 * 2008, Philip Norman, John Lennon: The Life, ISBN 9780385661003, page 452 :
 * Despite the high security surrounding the Beatles' interperformance flights—arrivals far away from terminal buildings where marksmen might lurk; departures, where possible, under cover of night—several bullet holes were later found in the aircraft's fuselage.

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Talk:hectic

I suggest that the definitions should explicitly include the original signification (from the Greek) of habitual and consumptive / wasting, as well as the medical one given at 2, since the 'habitual' meaning, though obsolete, is necessary for literature and the consumptive, i.e. fitful meaning still currentArdj 16:42, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Youth slang: cool
A friend's teenage brother in Canada uses this to mean cool, excellent, admirable, etc. Urban Dictionary confirms:. Probably not in print yet! Equinox ◑ 23:52, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:hectic


text:
fedakârlık

Etymology
From, equivalent to.

Noun

 * 1) self-sacrifice (giving up of one's own benefit)

title: fedakârlık


text:
mebos

Etymology
From, from.

Noun

 * 1)  A type of sweet snack food consisting of dried apricot made into a pulp and flavoured with salt and sugar.

title: mebos


text:
Talk:από πού κι ως πού

Old etymology
I have removed the old etymology which was "Based on nereden nereye, 'for some reason or other; I don't quite know why'". It is diffucult to see where this came from. Replaced with literal translation. — Saltmarsh απάντηση 16:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:από πού κι ως πού


text:
pissapoika

Noun

 * 1) windscreen washer device to clean windscreens

title: pissapoika


text: cow patty

title: cow patty


text: cow patties

title: cow patties


text:
nonstreamlined

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Not streamlined.

title: nonstreamlined


text:
nontelepathic

Adjective

 * 1) Not telepathic.

title: nontelepathic


text:
noncardinal

Adjective

 * 1)  Not cardinal.

title: noncardinal


text:
nonordinal

Adjective

 * 1)  Not ordinal.

title: nonordinal


text:
arreconéisher

Etymology
From, from , present active infinitive of , further prefixed with.

Verb

 * 1)  to recognize

title: arreconéisher


text:
User talk:Ardj

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text: desimpedida

title: desimpedida


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visão

Etymology
From, borrowed from. Compare the inherited doublet.

Noun

 * 1) view the act of seeing something
 * 2) sight; eyesight; vision the ability to see; the condition of not being blind
 * 3) vision; eye the ability to notice things
 * 4) vision an idea about how things should be in the future
 * 5) view; vision mental image
 * 6) view a person’s way of understanding something
 * 7)  view logical table in database formed from data from physical tables
 * 8)  vision a mystical mental image of something that happened or will happen
 * 1) view a person’s way of understanding something
 * 2)  view logical table in database formed from data from physical tables
 * 3)  vision a mystical mental image of something that happened or will happen
 * 1)  vision a mystical mental image of something that happened or will happen
 * 1)  vision a mystical mental image of something that happened or will happen

title: visão


text:
suitsuttaa

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to smoke to give off smoke
 * 2) to cense to perfume with incense
 * 3)  to praise, admire, elate

title: suitsuttaa


text:
rawl plug

Etymology
From ; from the name of the original inventor, John Joseph Rawlings, and.

Noun

 * 1) A wall plug; a screw anchor.

title: rawl plug


text: rawl plugs

title: rawl plugs


text: rawhides

title: rawhides


text: pearwoods

title: pearwoods


text:
nonsapient

Adjective

 * 1) Not sapient.

title: nonsapient


text:
nonsentient

Adjective

 * 1) Not sentient.

Noun

 * 1) Any entity that is not sentient.

title: nonsentient


text:
wall plug

Noun

 * 1)  A fixing that allows screws to be fitted into masonry walls, a dowel or screw anchor.
 * 2)  An electric socket.

Translations

 * Finnish: seinätulppa, kiinnitystulppa
 * French:
 * German:, Schraubdübel, Wanddübel
 * Greek: ,
 * Hungarian:, dübel
 * Portuguese:
 * Serbo-Croatian:

 * Finnish:
 * Greek: ,

title: wall plug


text: wall plugs

title: wall plugs


text: wallplug

title: wallplug


text: wallplugs

title: wallplugs


text:
lightfoot

Etymology
From, , from ,. See more at,.

Adjective

 * 1)  Light-footed.
 * 2) * 1906, original 1590, Edmund Spenser, The Faerie Queene, III.iii:
 * There she alighted from her light-foot beast, / And sitting downe upon the rocky shore, / Bade her old Squire unlace her lofty creast
 * There she alighted from her light-foot beast, / And sitting downe upon the rocky shore, / Bade her old Squire unlace her lofty creast

title: lightfoot


text: unlabored

title: unlabored


text: kerosines

title: kerosines


text: kerosenes

title: kerosenes


text:
apréner

Etymology
From, from , variant of , present active infinitive of.

Verb

 * 1)  to learn

title: apréner


text:
arpar

Verb

 * 1) to claw

title: arpar


text:
aprofechar

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1) to profit make use of

title: aprofechar


text:
aprigondir

Verb

 * 1) to deepen become deeper

title: aprigondir


text: Category:Occitan terms suffixed with -ir


text: aprene

title: aprene


text:
distroubled

Etymology

 * see.

Adjective

 * 1)  Troubled, disturbed.

title: distroubled


text: apregonir

title: apregonir


text: apregondir

title: apregondir


text:
hatchetation

Etymology
, coined by Carry Nation (1846-1911) to describe her own acts of vandalism. Possibly a pun on.

Noun

 * 1) A violent protest against the drinking of alcohol in which the protester attacks the bar with a hatchet.

title: hatchetation


text: hatchetations

title: hatchetations


text:
Pañchatantra

Proper noun

 * 1) Panchatantra (a collection of Sanskrit and Pali animal fables in verse and prose)

title: Pañchatantra


text:
Kohyponym

Noun

 * 1) cohyponym (a word or phrase that shares the same hypernym as another word or phrase)

title: Kohyponym


text: κίτρινου

title: κίτρινου


text: κίτρινη

title: κίτρινη


text: κίτρινε

title: κίτρινε


text: κίτρινης

title: κίτρινης


text:
overgo

Etymology 1
From, from , equivalent to. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  To cross, go over (a barrier etc.); to surmount.
 * 2)  To pass (a figurative barrier); to transgress.
 * 3) * 1882, John Payne, trans., The Thousand Nights and One Night, vol 3:
 * How many an one in its vanities hath gloried and taken pride, / Till froward and arrogant thus he grew and did all bounds o'ergo!
 * 1)  To pass by, pass away; often, to go unnoticed.
 * 2) To spread across (something); to overrun.
 * 3) To go over, move over the top of, travel across the surface of; to traverse, travel through.
 * 4) To go beyond; to exceed, surpass.
 * 5) To get the better of; to overcome, overpower.
 * 6)  To overtake, go faster than.
 * 7)  To cover.
 * 1) To get the better of; to overcome, overpower.
 * 2)  To overtake, go faster than.
 * 3)  To cover.
 * 1)  To overtake, go faster than.
 * 2)  To cover.
 * 1)  To cover.
 * 1)  To cover.

Synonyms

 * , ; see also Thesaurus:transcend
 * , ; see also Thesaurus:pass by
 * , ; see also Thesaurus:exceed
 * , ; see also Thesaurus:exceed
 * , ; see also Thesaurus:exceed
 * , ; see also Thesaurus:exceed

Etymology 2
.

Noun

 * 1)  A sequence of overlapping oligonucleotides, used to design hybridization.

title: overgo


text: κίτρινοι

title: κίτρινοι


text: passeuse

title: passeuse


text: passeuses

title: passeuses


text: κίτρινες

title: κίτρινες


text: κίτρινων

title: κίτρινων


text: κίτρινα

title: κίτρινα


text: κίτρινους

title: κίτρινους


text:
panyókás sakál

Etymology
, from

Noun

 * 1) black-backed jackal

Declension

 * For the noun, see.
 * The adjective remains unchanged.

title: panyókás sakál


text: preneuse

title: preneuse


text: preneuses

title: preneuses


text:
Gesetzgeber

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) legislator

title: Gesetzgeber


text:
sujtásos sakál

Noun

 * 1) side-striped jackal

Declension

 * For the noun, see.
 * The adjective remains unchanged.

title: sujtásos sakál


text:
aranysakál

Noun

 * 1) golden jackal

title: aranysakál


text: Gesetzgebers

title: Gesetzgebers


text:
conferencier

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) A person who organizes a conference, or is a leading member of one
 * 2) A compère or master of ceremonies in a revue

Translations

 * French: ,
 * Russian:

title: conferencier


text:
conferential

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to a conference

title: conferential


text: conferenciers

title: conferenciers


text:
Cailí

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * 1)  Kali

title: Cailí


text:
conferruminate

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1) To unite into a solid mass

Adjective

 * 1)  Closely united by the coalescence of contiguous faces.
 * The cotyledons of the live-oak acorn are conferruminate.

title: conferruminate


text:
Bráma

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * 1)  Brahma

title: Bráma


text:
Síve

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * 1)  Shiva

title: Síve


text:
confessable

Adjective

 * 1) That can be confessed.

Etymology
From.

title: confessable


text:
confessionalist

Noun

 * 1) A person who confesses
 * 2) A priest who hears confession
 * 3) An advocate of confessionalism

title: confessionalist


text: guāmùxiāngkàn

title: guāmùxiāngkàn


text:
confessionless

Adjective

 * 1) Having no confession (formal creed)

title: confessionless


text: khats

title: khats


text:
confessoress

Noun

 * 1) A woman who hears confession

title: confessoress


text:
confessorial

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to a confessor.

title: confessorial


text: confessionalists

title: confessionalists


text: confessoresses

title: confessoresses


text: User:Achado

title: User:Achado


text: User talk:Achado

title: User talk:Achado


text: vertaistaan

title: vertaistaan


text:
brahmana

Alternative forms

 * brāhmaṇa

Etymology
Anglicized/transliterated from.

Noun

 * 1) The brahmin varna in Hinduism. (Plural: brahmana.)
 * 2) A brahmin; a member of the brahmana (sense 1).
 * 3) * "'It was I who struck this wily brāhmaṇa' said Virāṭa." (Mahābhārata: "Virāṭa Parva")
 * 4) A prose text that explains aspects of the Vedas.

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  a Brahmin, a man belonging to the 1st of the 3 twice-born classes and of the 4 original divisions of the Hindu body (generally a priest, but often in the present day a layman engaged in non-priestly occupations although the name is strictly only applicable to one who knows and repeats the veda).

title: brahmana


text:
Talk:Fleischlaberl

Concerning the plural: I (coming from upper austria) would not say "Fleischlaberln" but rather "Fleischlaberl" (same as the singular form)

84.74.139.189 19:17, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

 * I've changed it accordingly. --MaEr (talk) 17:44, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:Fleischlaberl


text: utilisatrice

title: utilisatrice


text: utilisatrices

title: utilisatrices


text:
User talk:Mzajac/2007

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Ukranian help
Please, could you add (or check) the Ukrainian translations on these pages?
 * listen
 * parrot
 * Central Europe

Thank you, --EncycloPetey 01:00, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

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User talk:Mzajac/2008

recon
Most English words have only one primary stress. --EncycloPetey 01:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

WWIN
Please keep in mind that we are not an encyclopedia. --Connel MacKenzie 19:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I second that, see my cleanup of Little Russia, if people want detailed information about the thing to which a word refers, they can go to Wikipedia. If they want details about the word itself they come here. Conrad.Irwin 21:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Oops, I cross-replied at User talk:Conrad.Irwin. See also User talk:Connel MacKenzie, and let's move further discussion to talk:Little Russia. —Mzajac 21:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Would that be almost Etymological information, or is that the definition of the word? Feel free to change the entry to reflect the information that you feel is important, however the definitions shouldn't be too much longer - certainly if they are taking up more than a line and a bit they contain too much information. I feel that Wiktionary should almost never have specific dates, regions or other boundaries in its entries, as a dictionary we just don't have the facility to give that information about every country/region on earth, not to mention everything else that only existed for a set time in a set place. That is what Wikipedia is for, and it would be foolish to try and replicate their articles in our definitions. This is more general than just Little Russia, so I will post it here - though feel free to cross-post to the talk page too. Conrad.Irwin 22:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

re: romanize
Just a note, be sure to list such removals on WT:RFV to give folks a chance to look around for citations. More than once I have found a definition I thought was bogus only to be informed that it was widely used somewhere I had never been :) Thanks! -  20:54, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I did not know that; will do so right away. Thanks. —Mzajac 20:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Translations
Thanks for adding the Ukrainian translations to Canadian. However, putting all the inflections there does look a bit messy (imagine if every language did that). Usually what we do is define a form (for adjectives usually the masculine singular, but it depends on the language) as the lemma, or main entry, and put all important information at that form (including a full inflection table). For example, the entry is the lemma page and has the definition, etymology, full inflection, etc; it is found as the translation for loosen. Additionally, entries like λύεις and λυέτω are inflected form entries which simply say which form they are and direct the user back to the main page. If you pull open the inflection tables, you'll quickly see why we wouldn't want to put them all at loosen. :) I suggest that you do something similar.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 05:56, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

 * That makes more sense. I've done this on a few pages, and I'll try to clean it up.  Thanks. —Mzajac 06:00, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Many thanks. You may want to get in touch with User:Stephen G. Brown, as he's working on Russian and will probably have some useful ideas for Ukrainian.  You may also want to take a look at About Russian, which gives the policies for that language.  While there will probably be some differences between the way the two languages get done, I imagine many things will be similar.  -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 06:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Also - for languages with grammatical genders, such as Ukrainian - common lemma form for adjectives is masculine and that one should be listed, without the gender indication; see Languages with more than one grammatical gender for more info. Cheers! --Ivan Štambuk 08:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Oops, I had to be told twice. It just feels incomplete to list only the masculine, when I am not yet prepared to take the time to create the main entry plus the supplementary entries for the other genders and numbers. —Michael Z. 15:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * No, you were right; that document is not policy and should be considered somewhat obsolete in parts. We have the one-letter gender templates precisely because we use them in translation tables. Lots of entries give both the m and f forms. Of course we don't want to list all the inflections, but sometimes 2 and (more rarely) more gender/numbers are very useful. (and note that even that document shows the example with a gender marker.) 4 (m/f, sg/pl) was probably overkill ;-) Robert Ullmann 16:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I have no problem with it not being policy. Even if it is not, it is the closest we have to it and consistency is good.

 * The translation links should be systematic: linking to just the lemma is not comprehensive, but it does make sense that more detailed information will appear in the entry. It just seemed easy to add the other genders/numbers in place to me, but would have been significantly more work to format one or more entries.   I was also reluctant to include partial information when some other entries on the page had more.

 * The more I think about it, the more it seems that including any additional forms will bloat the translation section and leave it with a bunch of inconsistent entries. In many cases a particular language will already have more than one translation for a word, anyway.

 * In either case, I think the translation sections could be quite a bit neater if the template format were cleaned up, bet there doesn't seem to be any active support for the idea.

 * Thanks for your patience. —Michael Z. 03:53, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

- the purpose of is to introduce at the top of each page (i.e., in a language-agnostic part) minor spelling variants, not to replace ====See also==== or ====Related terms==== sections. That should have been handled at the software level, but up until it does, we have to take care of it manually. --Ivan Štambuk 10:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Also, per WT:ELE ===Alternative spellings=== section is intended for support of spelling variants such as Brittish/American/Canadian... and also for use in the definition lines. Creating redirect such as grey jay is not really preferable, because it favors one spelling over another, and that might initiate some very unproductive discussions over which spelling is "the best" (like for color vs. colour - see the talk pages) --Ivan Štambuk 10:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

 * But I don't see how using avoids these discussions.  It still points the reader to a "primary entry", as the template notes state. —Michael Z. 16:49, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

 * It doesn't, but at least it adds English-language section, so if the redirect name means something in some other language, entry could easily be expanded without "losing" information. Redirects are generally done only in extreme cases (not like 'pedia!), but lots of folks here would find it very problematic if it were a common practice redirecting non-US (Canadian/UK/Australian) spelling to those of American English, such as with gray/grey. Cheers! --Ivan Štambuk 17:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi :) Just a few more little but important things to keep in mind before you end up approved on WT:WL: Beside that, everything is perfect :)
 * Wiktionary is case sensitive so Fierce and fierce could well be entries in two different languages.
 * ==Related terms== section is reserved for related terms in the same language as the {PAGENAME}, so if you want to list cognates/borrowings in other Slavic languages you could add them in =Etymology= section.
 * All languages are written in their native script (except when there's none), so you might want to use for Persian and Arabic, and someone knowledgeable will hopefully come and check spelling, or provide proper spelling when transliteration is only available.

BTW, I recently updated from uk.wikt Index:Ukrainian with tens of thousands of entries, so you might wanna check those. Also, if you're interested, you might help adding Ukrainian cognates into Proto-Slavic lists inside Category:Proto-Slavic language, and add Ukrainian entries with etymologies based on those (using ). Cheers! --Ivan Štambuk 12:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Lots to remember, but it is impressive how structured the Wiktionary entries become (compared to Wikipedia articles).

 * But woah, woah, I don't know about this white-list thing.... If I get approved, then how will I get someone to follow me around and clean up all my edits?  Regards. —Michael Z. 18:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

 * Well, IMHO almost all of your edits so far are conformant with WT:ELE and of very high quality. It takes some time for all of newcomers to adapt to the normal usage of some dozen of usual templates, but once that step is finished, adding new content becomes simply a matter of automation (i.e. you focus on the content, not the format of content). The most important thing is the format itself - and you're doing it just fine. There is also Ullmann's AF bot that checks recently edited articles in the background and tags them with messages like "missing language tag" or "invalid part of speech header" etc. - kinds of silly mistakes people often do, so watch out for AF's changes on the entries on watchlist.
 * One more thing; as you probably noticed in my edit, all of those etymology templates take a parameter for FL etymologies: ISO-639 code of the destination language, so Persian derivations in Ukrainian would be  .  is genericized version of those: it takes 2 parameters: the source and dest. language, so using it it would be    because  = Persian (Farsi,  in Old Persian, reborrowed from Arabic where there is no "p" :). Cheers! --Ivan Štambuk 19:56, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:t customization
If you care to inspect and friends you'll probably realize why I wasn't bothering with the stray space by itself ;-) Anyway, you will be able to get any of the link forms that you suggested. Robert Ullmann 14:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Category:uk:Bulgarian derivations
Hello there, I have rolled back your edit toCategory:uk:Bulgarian derivations where you reverted my last contribution. The templates, , were a temporary work around that I created until the  template could be revised to handle the Etymology categories correctly.The new template  is set to replace  at some point but there are some gubbins that need to added to the sub pages of  for it to handle the categorisation and explanatory text of each Etymology category.

I am busy doing this and hope to be finished in a couple of weeks (there are a lot of categories to fix/migrate/update). for the time being feel free to use and  until I manage to get to all the derivations categories.

BTW is now completely deprecated.

Since you brought this up I will create an entry for these templates at WT:RFDO this week to make sure all discussion around this move is in the open. Regards, --Williamsayers79 17:17, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry about that. I just noticed that the Bulgarian cat showed up in *Topics, while no others did.  I changed it following some examples.

 * I'll make sure I'm more familiar with the category templates before I go messing about there too much.  Thanks. —Michael Z. 17:20, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

"We can't see your unlinked dictionary"
Hm. This was not appreciated. I don't think it's helpful to arbitrarily remove references, or demand that another editor duplicate Oxford's research.

Here's part of the Canadian Oxford Dictionary's definition of skid mark, for your review: "2 slang something resembling such a mark, esp. a stain left on underwear by feces."

Now please restore the citation and the sense you removed, or I'll do so. —Michael Z. 00:08, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Let me first say I do not mean at all to be uncivil. Let's pursue the answers knowing that neither of us means no ill.  As far as that sense goes, you have just shown me exactly what I had thought -- that it was Canadian Oxford's attempt to soften the blow of that particular reference, or arbitrarily enlarge or generalize the definition to be more inclusive.  However, I don't think there's any evidence for the use of "skid mark" to refer to a general stain that wasn't caused by a skid.  Any skid marks on the walls, on clothing, skin, are called such because they are caused by skidding.  The separate reference to poop is a direct and specific euphemism to tire tracks.  Additionally, you have parsed and separated one sense from Can.Oxford into two senses.  It's really them trying to fully explain and make sense out of the poop euphemism.  All we are really talking about for the sense you want is someone using "skid mark" to refer to a stain not caused by something sliding across something else.  Hence the request for a cite -- It wasn't meant to be uncivil; I just don't believe "skid mark" refers to a non-skidding stain except the poop euphemism. -- Thisis0 18:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I had thought your edit summary implied that I was being dishonest, so I'm glad to hear that you didn't intend any offence.

 * Your interpretation of the story behind the Canadian Oxford's definition may be correct, or it may not. All we have to go on is what it says in the dictionary.  I believe that they place a lot of emphasis on researching usage, then boil it down to a very terse definition, so lacking additional evidence we should take them at their word.  And regardless of how we choose to interpret it, I don't believe that paper references are considered to be problematic around here, so the entry's only reference should be restored. —Michael Z. 2008-04-16 21:05 Z

 * I'll point out again that you separated one of their senses into two. A sense they wholly tagged as slang.  The first part of their definition was an attempt to define, or put into general terms, the observed slang sense of "poop stain".  They were approaching it from the front end, attempting to describe the sense, while you are looking at their definition from the back end, assuming they must have observed citations for something other than poop.  It's one sense for them, don't try and make it two.  On the other hand, if you can possibly find a couple examples where people refer to a not-cause-by-a-skid stain as a "skid mark", then obviously we can cite that.  As for now, I believe all bases are covered by the three senses present at skid mark and skidmark:  1) Tires. 2) All-inclusive marks caused by skidding and sliding. 3) the well-traveled poop stain euphemism. -- Thisis0 00:03, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I first tried to enter it as one sense, following the basic definition. When this was reverted, I added the general definition as I remembered from the dictionary.  If you're happy with the entry as it is now, I'll leave it, but please don't remove the reference again. —Michael Z. 2008-04-17 02:52 Z

 * What you did the first time was remove the euphemistic sense in favor of a more (in my eyes unsupported) general sense. This is actually confusing to me now in light of the definition you were referencing, which directly refers to the underpants sense you claimed was "not a particular sense of the word". -- Thisis0 03:14, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * You're right. I was wrong.  but please let's leave the reference in. —Michael Z. 2008-04-17 04:52 Z

 * hey man, i promise i'm not trying to belabor the issue, but i'm curious why you want that templated unlinked reference to stay? At this point, there's no special case why this reference is any more relevant here than in any and every other entry? -- Thisis0 05:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

 * It seems to be the one and only reference we have for this usage. Citing sources is the basis for wiki. —Michael Z. 2008-04-17 11:04 Z

 * Well, Wikipedia is a tertiary source; it cites secondary sources. Wiktionary does that too, to a certain extent, especially in etymology sections and usage notes. But unlike Wikipedia, Wiktionary is also a secondary source, inferring definitions directly from quotations; that's what Criteria for inclusion is all about. —Ruakh TALK 23:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

etyl
Just so you know, when using to introduce a cognate or other form for comparison, you have to insert a dash into the second parameter, otherwise the word comes up as a descendant of that language when it's not. For example, take a look at the changes I've made to Kyiv. Also, just to let you know I have not forgotten about your request for a dialect friendly version of etyl. Rest assured that I am thinking about that. It's finals week for me, so it probably won't happen 'til next week, but I am working on it. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 05:13, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Oops, thanks. I usually just type the name sans template, but sometimes forget.  Dash is better. —Michael Z. 2008-05-15 05:15 z

diaeresis
Your changes to diaeresis made the definition wrong; the diaeresis is not used to indicate a separate syllable in Spanish vergüenza:, nor in French ambiguë:. This is especially a problem since Spanish vergüenza: is one of the examples we give. —Ruakh TALK 23:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Forming a separate syllable implies both that the letter doesn't form a diphthong, and that the letter is sounded, not silent. I couldn't find any pronunciation transcribed to confirm that this is what happens with the Spanish and French terms, but the older definition didn't contradict that either.  (I had initially written "indicating that it is sounded separately from another", but then found the unusual example of Brontë.)

 * Can you better explain what the diaeresis does in these examples? Do the vowel combinations become diphthongs in vergüenza and ambiguë/ambigüe, or form two syllables? —Michael Z. 2008-05-15 23:23 z

 * In both examples, the diaeresis indicates that the <u> is not silent; in the Spanish one it's a /w/, or maybe a /w/ (labialization of the /g/), and in the French it's an /y/. With French ambigüe: the current definition is misleading but not inaccurate; but in French ambiguë: the <e> is silent, and in Spanish vergüenza: the <u> is part of a diphthong or part of a consonant, I'm not sure which. (It might depend on the analysis.) —Ruakh TALK 23:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

 * I'll move this for more eyes and reply back at WT:TR. —Michael Z. 2008-05-15 23:52 z

category.py
See this edit: the wikipedia pybot code moves categories to the end if you do any category operation; this is not correct for the wikt; we put cats in language sections. category.py (or whatever) must be run with the -inplace option to prevent this. Robert Ullmann 15:24, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Sorry about that. I'll be more careful in the future (and don't have any more plans to run robots anyway). —Michael Z. 2008-05-20 05:40 z

Adminship.
Hi Michael,

Would you accept a nomination for adminship?

—Ruakh TALK 23:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Cool. :-)  To accept your nomination, go to [ Wiktionary:Votes/sy-2008-08/User:Mzajac_for_admin?action=edit&section=1] and fill out the commented-out part after "Acceptance:". —Ruakh TALK 01:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

cyrillization
Hi there. Couldn't help notice your use of this word (that we haven't got a definition for yet). I was wondering - are there any Greek restaurants in Russia and, if so, what do the menus look like? Does Russian wiktionary include cyrillizations? SemperBlotto 16:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

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workword

Etymology
🇰🇲, perhaps as a.

Noun

 * 1)  The operative word, especially in a thought, phrase, or idea; keyword.

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User talk:Mzajac/2009

French Canadian
Sorry to have mislead you about fre/fra. Better luck with Afrikaans, anyway. I'll take a look at you template. DCDuring TALK 11:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * So, you display "canadian french" but use "fr" within etyl and term? Do you put inside  or italbrac so that it could be found? I haven't been following such discussions, but it seems to me we would want to make it easy to find all and only such entries by some means such as a distinct category or better template-enclosed text next to the definition or ed word in an etymology. The issue may have been addressed already (somehwere???). If you have figured it all out, I'd love to know about it. DCDuring TALK 11:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I had forgotten about this conversation. Today I added batteau, almost certainly of French Canadian derivation. I added to that headword using "fre" and created . I was then surprised to find that the category already existed. I don't know whether it matters that we have two etyl routes to the same objective, but I thought you should know. Let me know if you want to amend anything. Neither "fr-CA" nor "fre" yet have much use so we could standardize on one with minimal effort now. "fre" has the advantage of conforming to the main standard, but you may be aware of other considerations. DCDuring TALK 14:43, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

New buttons
Welcome to sysophood. There is probably help somewhere - I'm sure you can find it. SemperBlotto 06:58, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Thank you. I'm sure I can muddle through it.  Regards. —Michael Z. 2008-08-26 14:57 z

Please add yourself to the table at WT:A with the information listed. Thanks! Robert Ullmann 18:07, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Request
Would you be able to create an entry for Ukrainian слухати (slúxaty)? We don't seem to have an entry for it. --EncycloPetey 16:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

 * Done. —Michael Z. 2008-08-26 17:34 z

Garage pronunciation
When you added the Canadian pronunciation to garage, did you really mean the final vowel in the first two to be, which is the sound in the British pronunciation of stop: for example? I'm not familiar with Canadian pronunciation but I would have thought  (as in the word  and the US pronunciation of ) would be more likely? Thryduulf 23:28, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Without actually hearing an audio pronunciation of the Canadian pronunciation I can't actually say what the phoneme used is, but [ɒ] seemed a little unlikely. However I should qualify that by pointing out that I'm British and can't tell the difference between US and Canadian accents. Soliciting the opinion of any other Canadians here is the only other thing I can think of. Thryduulf 01:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

etyl again
Please be more careful with the template. For example, the change put reconnoiter into Category:English derivations (which should always be empty, save subcats). Only languages which supply an etymon should receive the template. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 02:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Canuck
Can you cite your source for the etymology of Canuck? I'd like to add two more: from etymonline, and the CanOD which just says “apparently from Canada.” —Michael Z. 2008-09-10 14:49 z

 * Just napped them from the wiki page. Probably want to update both if you could. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 23:01, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

PVT
Please note:. All the forms are all abbreviations of the same word, so they are not synonyms but the same word in different forms. There is no "en-abbreviation" template; the template is used in the POS header directly (and can accept parameters for various languages). --EncycloPetey 19:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks. —Michael Z. 2008-10-06 19:22 z

User:Hjtouy
I've reblocked him indef - checkuser shows he is the same userpage vandal we've been dealing with all week. -- Versa geek  06:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks. —Michael Z. 2008-11-19 06:03 z
 * As a victim, I appreciate you both for your diligence and speed. -- IrishDragon 06:24, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

 * My pleasure. I was Johnny-on-the-spot just because I happened to load a page when my talk page was vandalized. —Michael Z. 2008-11-19 06:40 z

Template:IPAchar
Are you sure that Template:IPAchar isn't a script template? —Ruakh TALK 18:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Is a good question. It was originally intended for IPA transcriptions following the IPA template (which only took one parameter), but is now more often used with terms in languages written only in IPA i.e. languages with no written form, transcribed in IPA by researchers. That would make it more a script template. You would think IPA would have a 15924 code, but apparently not. Robert Ullmann 18:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Note: The template is also used when an IPA transcription appears within text outside of a Pronunciation section, such as on talk pages, and occasionally it is used within Usage notes sections. --EncycloPetey 18:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Are there languages written only as IPA transcriptions, and not by some more normal “written” method?

 * Technically, “the International Phonetic Alphabet (IPA) is an extension of the Latin alphabet, enabling it to represent the phonetics of all languages” (The Unicode Standard 5.0, p 225). The IANA registry assigns it a variant tag fonipa.  I am guessing it would be used, e.g., en-fonipa for English in IPA, or uk-Latn-fonipa, for Ukrainian in IPA (as opposed to uk-Latn, a historical Latin alphabet for Ukrainian). Details about language tags are in RFC 4646.

 * I separated IPA and others because they aren't native or adopted scripts for written languages, but a transcription method for pronunciation of speech, accents, and speech impediments.  In the dictionary, they aren't so much a subject of study as a tool for use (if you know what I mean, but let's not get into that discussion).  For convenience, I sorted them out into category:Pronunciation templates and category:Transliteration templates (or perhaps these two belong together in category:Transcription templates). —Michael Z. 2008-11-21 22:06 z

tank as a name
I only moved it, because it seemed to be in the wrong place (not actually a definition); I didn't verify the accuracy. Perhaps it should go. Equinox 18:11, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

inherit
I think this should be looked at. You've been adding :inherit to the CSS (with the MSIE6 hide trick), but that is a change: the script templates have been forcing the font lists on all browsers. If :inherit is in the CSS, then when the fonts are removed from the templates (the outer span), the other browsers will go back to their defaults (modulo user config, fonts loaded, etc). I don't think that's wanted: we have been forcing font lists on all browsers for a reason. And now, of course, users will be able to over-ride them, but there isn't/won't be any (simple) way for users to over-ride the :inherit and use the font lists. (!)

I think what I am saying is that in all cases where we have moved the lists from templates to CSS, we should not add :inherit. That way we get the status quo ante. Robert Ullmann 09:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Okay, I'll go through them and restore the behaviour shortly. —Michael Z. 2008-11-26 16:07 z

 * Also answered question on my talk page; I think there is a workable hack, given that it is temporary. Robert Ullmann 08:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

MSIE-specific CSS.
Hi Mzajac,

Thanks for your recent efforts to standardize and clean up the script templates. But as part of this, you've been "fixing" a number of templates to impose fonts only for MSIE, which (as you've since seen) causes problems sometimes. I'm guessing that this also caused problems in various cases that you still don't know about, because there's no one who both (1) has noticed and (2) knows where to bring it up.

Was there some discussion leading up to this? I'm somewhat annoyed, firstly because you don't seem to have asked about it in the Grease pit discussions, and secondly because even so, I anticipated that you might want to do it, and explicitly advised against it (in the "Survey of script templates" section — my first comment, sixth bullet-point). Obviously, my advising against something doesn't make it forbidden, but I'd like to think it should have at least prompted you to ask for a second opinion before altering functionality for many of our non-MSIE-using users.

I stand ready to retract my annoyance if it turns out there was discussion that I simply didn't notice. ;-)

Thanks again, —Ruakh TALK 14:59, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

 * (butting in) I think it just got lost by mistake. In almost all applications (the wikt being a spectacular exception), it is entirely sufficient to leave the fonts to the browser, only doing all this horrid hackery for MSIE, with the typical brokenness of all things MS. (see his comments a bit further down GP) That combined with the MSIE-hidden :inherit for most of the things already in the CSS caused an understandable error. Just IMNSHO. (note this is the same issue as the previous section "inherit") Robert Ullmann 15:15, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

 * I'm sorry for the trouble and the extra work I've caused. My plan was to rearrange things without changing any of the output at this point, but even though I had read Ruakh's warning, that got lost in my shuffle.  I was also frustrated a bit by the lack of documentation for any of these templates, and assumed that some which were not represented in the style sheet may have had inline fonts because the MSIE hack wasn't possible to apply in a template, or because their author only used MSIE.  That was a bad assumption.

 * I was also a bit distracted from the target by the unexpected occurrence of a font-size inheritance problem which was brought to my attention when I'd already proceeded to the next step. In the future I will do more testing to prevent a reoccurrence.

 * I've already restored a number of the non-MSIE font specs because of direct complaints (Cyrillic, Devanagari and all the Arabic templates), and I'll restore the rest shortly.

 * Next, I'll try to document some of what I've learned. Thanks for your patience and understanding, all. —Michael Z. 2008-11-27 16:26 z

 * Makes sense. Thanks for taking care of it. :-)  —Ruakh TALK 17:27, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, the style sheet should now be in synch with the templates, as they were four days ago. I posted details at the bottom of Grease pit. —Michael Z. 2008-11-27 18:08 z

sc- classes
Um, why? Why "sc-Goth" when we want and need "Goth" ? Robert Ullmann 22:59, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Template:Deva
I think that there's an extra span end bracket here. Take a look at πατήρ. It looks fine as a regular entry, but if you open the edit window and do a show preview, the last half of the etymology is too big (presumably the changes are still in the job queue). I imagine that simply removing the second end span should fix it, but I thought I'd give it to you, as your understanding of these script templates vastly outstrips my own. Many thanks. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 21:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

nationality
Your edits do not follow WT:ELE conventions. Individual translations do not receive separate sections by sense. --EncycloPetey 06:38, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I hadn't realized there was a secondary edit. Reverting takes the page back to the last version not by that contributor, and by the time I realized my mistake and went to correct it, you had made another edit.  However, I'll note that the concept of sub-numbered definitions is still controversial.  WT:ELE does not make provision for them. --EncycloPetey 06:44, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Restoring it at this point would give me credit for the edit. As I said, you made another edit after I realized my error, so I couldn't undo my change. --EncycloPetey 06:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, as you wish, but you'll lose the edit you made afterwards. Some people get upset, some people insist, and I get yelled at either way. --EncycloPetey 07:09, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have found that when I make the format corrections, I have to make them over and over, because the same mistakes pop up again and again from the same user. When I allow  the user to correct their own mistakes (as I tried to do in this case), the user usually learns something useful and produces better product in future.  There is no one magical method for operating on Wiktionary that will guarantee the best results. --EncycloPetey 20:05, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed it because you repeatedly insisted that I revert instead of making even a slight effort yourself. you knew that reverting would do this because I told you repeatedly that it would.  Please go away. --EncycloPetey 20:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I have put the entry back the way it was before any of this started. Do not ask me to "revert" again.  Figure it out for yourself. --EncycloPetey 20:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

toque
Umm... you put in four etymology section headers, but only gave two etymologies. I've moved the etymology content under the correct headers. --EncycloPetey 01:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * The alternative spellings are fine, as far as I'm concerned. I don't whether you've seen the recent discussion (in the BP, I think), where Alternative spellings/forms are under discussion.  As I pointed out there, there aren't any policies about this section.  The example in the ELE places it ahead of the Etymology section, and that's the norm for most people, but there are situations like toque where I would put them in exactly the place that you did.  However, the ELE makes no mention at all of this section; it simply appears without explanation in the example.  Even Alternative spellings doesn't mention the section! --EncycloPetey 01:29, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

coureur des bois
Chambers only has coureur de bois, too, so it appears we should have that. Wikipedia's article is Coureur des bois, though, and so do a lot of sources on Google Books. Perhaps it's a legitimate alternate form? Equinox 11:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Going by (193),  (329),  (406), and  (296), both forms are common in both languages, but the "de" form is preferred in English and the "des" form is preferred in French. (Those numbers are last-page figures, found by adding &start=900 to the search URL.) —Ruakh TALK 12:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks, folks. I will adjust the entry accordingly.

 * Is the number 900 magic, or will any large number find the accurate count? —Michael Z. 2009-01-27 15:22 z

 * Any number that's large enough to bring you to the last page, but small enough that you don't hit the limit on the requested number of results (which I think is 1000). Even then, b.g.c doesn't actually say the accurate count; it will say something like "Books 191 - 196 of 906", which I interpret as meaning "196". —Ruakh TALK 16:08, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

User:Mzajac/Language attributes
"What's the best way to deal with incorrect input? Should we add comprehensive error-checking?"

No, absolutely not. Got into a lot of trouble with this myself, other contributors complaining that the template code was unreadable.

"Should error input be corrected, dropped silently, or throw an error message?"

Corrected only in cases where it is necessary. Usually better than correction is to have obviously incorrect output, which does not have to be a pretty error. The cases that require most attention are errors that are likely yet not obvious. One way I've found to throw an error is by category, e.g. Category:Translation table header lacks gloss, but ideally that would be eliminated once the problem has been corrected.

"Should the input case be adjusted (EN > en)? This is supposed to be case-insensitive, so changing it is safe, and it may help buggy implementations deal with our content."

Good reasons, but also important that it is not obtuse coding and not resource intensive. May as well.

"If the code grows complex, should it be generalized and maintained in a single template, to be transcluded into any script template?"

Yes, but better to defer such until it is put to trial. A tolerable mess is okay: that's the way wikis are tweaked. From experience, putting out an idea as a change of direction does not easily gain traction. And again, better to keep it from growing complex in the first place. DAVilla 16:50, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Михайло
A couple of quick things. First, the code for (Old) Church Slavonic is. Also, it's important to make the distinction between Ancient Greek and Greek. Almost anything Biblical will come from Ancient Greek, as well as anything which comes from Old Church Slavonic, which predates the border between Ancient Greek and Greek (1453). I've made the appropriate changes to the entry. Cheers. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 22:19, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I have a few of these things figured out now, but I'm probably too timid to second-guess a source that just says “CS.” or “Greek”.  Cheers. —Michael Z. 2009-03-27 22:53 z

cross the floor
The way you list it does appear that it is British with particular regard to Canada, which is clearly incorrect. But do we list them all Australia / NZ / Canada / South Africa etc, or would it be better to leave it as I had it with usage notes. I totally agree with your opinion with regard to Commenwealth English. No such thing, and I didn't realise when I reverted to the previous version that that was included. Will have another look later, no time now. Denis.--Dmol 03:38, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

en quad etc.
Your simplification eliminated a real if subtle distinction between en quad and en space. In a condensed font, the en quad remains 1 en wide, while the en space shrinks in width to the same degree as other characters. — Carolina wren <small style="font-family:sans-serif">discussió 16:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: "too wide"
To avoid confusion: my screen resolution is 1028x768. On Internet Explorer 7, I set Text Size to "Larger" - it is this that causes the appearance of a horizontal scroll bar on your new design. No other version of Wiktionary or Wikipedia etc does this (I have not actually tried them all!) and very few other sites do it either. SemperBlotto 15:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

404
I thought that the (machine readable) status code was "404" and the example (human readable) reason phrase was "Not found" Conrad.Irwin 22:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:index
Hi, I've noticed that you changed the formatting of the index alphabets. I like the font but the alphabet now takes two lines instead of one. Can you reduce the distance between the letters? Also, can you center it? It would look better. Thanks. --Panda10 11:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Context labels in ELE
Looks good, but I'd like to see just a bit more explaining what appropriate areas on "context" are. Not a complete list, of course, but perhaps three examples or three areas named to show appropriate scope rather than just (informal) as the only example. Perhaps revise the opening to:

 * A context label identifies a definition which only applies in a restricted context. Such labels indicate that the following definition has a restricted grammatical function, or occurs in a limited geographic region or temporal period, or is used only by specialists in a particular field and not by the general population.  Many context label templates also place an entry into a relevant category, but they must not be used merely for categorization (see category links, below).

 * One or more labels may be placed before the definition:

This would give more emphasis to what a context label is, rather than to what it is not (which the current draft emphasizes correctly, but omits sufficient explanation). note also the paragraph break between the theory of use and the practical implementation. --EncycloPetey 18:55, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

East Slavic and руський
Michael, please see the reply in my talk page. Here's a link describing the meaning. http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/Руський Anatoli 05:16, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Update. http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/False_Friends_of_the_Slavist/Russian-Ukrainian You are right, there is such a meaning but there is a negative meaning too. Anatoli 05:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Landau
Out of curiosity, would the Landau reference you mentioned re: labels be The Art and Craft of Making Dictionaries? I've read that book (I don't remember whether I've checked the 2001 edition, though, do you know how updated it was?). I agree with the basic point about grammatical vs. other forms of information. In that regard, Wiktionary is quite anomalous in the way it deals with them. Circeus 16:47, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I absolutely agree about the conceptual aspect. I am in fact of the opinion that putting them as if they were contextual labels is a sub-par choice, but I unfortunately doubt we can do anything much about it anymore (and I would be hard-pressed to offer an alternative myself). Commercial dictionaries are lucky in that (I gather) they are usually written in a form of XML-like language, and the actual formatting is handled separately. We unfortunately do not have that possibility. Circeus 19:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Template:generally
I'd sooner delete that template rather than redirect it to "mainly". Those two words do not mean or imply the same thing. --EncycloPetey 05:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I looked at every case, deleted the ones where it appeared in isolation, and in all other cases it seemed to mean "mainly". I'm glad to delete it though, because its meaning isn't self-evident.  I'll list it at WT:RFDO. —Michael Z. 2009-06-25 05:06 z

Talk:in
At your convenience, please take a look. I collected the top 100 in+noun collocations from COCA and began sorting.

Also, please see User talk:DCDuring. DCDuring TALK 04:07, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Collocations and search
See User_talk:Conrad.Irwin. DCDuring TALK 15:17, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

crescent
I am curious as to where "crescent" (for the pastry) is used in Canada: in areas with Francophones or withour? It may be a Canadianism. If we call crescent a derived term from crescent roll, then it should have a different etymology from the other senses of crescent. I believe that "crescent roll" was coined to relieve American consumers of the uncertainty of pronouncing "croissant". I'm going to see if I can get confirmation of that. My question about where crescent is used would have some bearing on whether it might be a contra-Francophone reaction. DCDuring TALK 10:47, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

 * The CanOD doesn't provide any specific clues. croissant (1899) is a more recent reborrowing from French, while crescent (n. & adj.) has been around for a very long time, influenced by both Latin and French, and used for the pastry earlier (1886).  OED says that use is “more fully, crescent roll,” so it's not really clear whether the compound is derived from the abbreviation or vice versa.

 * My impression is that many older anglophones in Canada tend to resist French pronunciations, while people in French-speaking areas, younger, and better-educated people tend to use French and other borrowings more easily.

 * I'll try to check the Dictionary of Canadianisms (1967) in one of my nearby libraries, to see if there is any specific Canadian regional use documented. —Michael Z. 2009-07-17 13:35 z

 * Thanks, but from what you've said it doesn't seem that "crescent" for the pastry has a separate etymology ("translated from French to defrancify local speech"), which was my principal interest. Not that I would have necessarily thought it necessary to add such an etymology, relying as it does on speculation about motives. It does give me a little opportunity to gain some insight into other language politics issues. DCDuring TALK 15:12, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

 * Checked today: the DCHP doesn't have entries for crescent or croissant. —Michael Z. 2009-07-19 03:56 z

colours
Since you seem to be citing color words anyway, please note that burgundy will be WOTD on the 30th of this month. --EncycloPetey 05:01, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Landau 2
I seem to recall that you had mentioned Landau, presumably the author of the books on lexicography. I'm trying to decide on the value of buying and reading some material in lexicography (Landau or ?), English grammar (CGEL or Quirk), and discourse analysis (?). An alternative is MIT linguistics course material. I am also specifically interested in any empirical data about how different classes of users use dictionaries. I'd appreciate your thoughts about the value of Landau or recommendations as to the other areas. Feel free to answer on my page if you prefer. ("Eavesdroppers'" comments welcome there, too.) DCDuring TALK 15:45, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

hiding the fundraising banner
Were you looking for a way to hind the fundraising banner? If so, try adding  to your monobook.css (I did, and it works). — msh210  ℠  02:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

templates
Please note: all template names on Wiktionary begin with a lower-case letter. --EncycloPetey 23:45, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

 * I'm guessing you're referring to my use of . I always assumed that all templates are case-sensitive just like entries (including, for example,, ), and that  was another pointless inconsistency waiting for someone to vote out of existence.  I look forward to having my assumption disproved. —Michael Z. 2009-08-30 23:51 z

 * You could note the edit history; Ruakh has protected the capitalized redirect to keep it from being altered. We had this discussion about capitalization of templates long ago, but I don't recall in which year.  Templates named for proper noun dialects seem to be the sole exceptions, at least that I'm aware of.  This isn't a pointless inconsistency but part of a conscious choice to prefer lowercase template names.  --EncycloPetey 23:59, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Perhaps there was a consensus discussion one time, but it looks to me like the de facto capitalization of both entries and templates is to capitalize per English usage. Examples include,  and , , , , , , , , ,.

 * I can find very few exceptions. Only {Wiktionary} is improperly l.c., and the handful of Category:Checkuser templates and big set of Category:User templates have initial caps added for no apparent reason. —Michael Z. 2009-08-31 00:28 z

Lviv
IP undo (not sure why, so...) - Amgine/talk 22:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks. Reverting my revert.  I've expanded the etymology. —Michael Z. 2009-09-08 04:45 z

hate sex
Thanks for the cleanup. The entry started due to a deletion discussion on Wikipedia; it was noted that the article there was a dictionary definition. I'd dug up some sources using the term but not giving enough discussion for an encyclopedia entry, so I thought I'd have a go at starting my first Wiktionary entry. Apologies that it wasn't quite right. Should I also begin hate fuck? That's also got sources to attest to its usage as a noun and verb, and I should have a better idea now on what to do. Fences and windows 01:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

do you know this Ukrianian expression?
Whenever something unexpected used to happen, my gido would say something that sounded like "khadzia komadia" (this was years ago, I appologize for the poor estimation of the sound) or something to that effect. When I asked my friend who is a native speaker, he said it means "what a comedy". Have you heard this expression? Do you know what it is properly spelled in Cyrillic? We don't have a translation for comedy on en-WT yet. It must be simmilar to Russian комедия, yes? What would be the translation of inerogative pronoun "what"? And lastly, do you think a good translation for meaning of the phrase would be "what a gong show"? Kevlar67 00:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Script templates
I was checking on templates for ISO 15924 codes and thought you might be able to help me out with a few questions. Thanks. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 23:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Should we use  for Appendix:Unicode/Georgian Supplement and the Asomtavruli ("Upper case") part of Appendix:Unicode/Georgian?
 * 2) Should we make  for the few Unicode characters?
 * 3) Are the Syriac variant codes (Syre, Syrj, Syrn) used?

Votes/2009-12/Proposed CFI exception for SI Units
In light of your participation in Beer parlour archive/2009/September, please contribute your thoughts to Votes/2009-12/Proposed CFI exception for SI Units. Cheers! <i style="background:lightgreen">bd2412</i> T 21:02, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

title: User talk:Mzajac/2009


text:
interpretor

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to explain, expound
 * 2) to interpret, translate
 * 3) to understand, conclude
 * 1) to understand, conclude
 * 1) to understand, conclude

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) interpreter

title: interpretor


text:
rugină

Etymology
Probably from *, from, with a later stress shift to the penultimate syllable in Romanian, which may have occurred due to the influence of derivatives such as , , etc. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬; cf. also Asturian. Alternatively, and less likely, from Latin, accusative of , also with a stress shift; compare 🇨🇬. Cognate to 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) rust

title: rugină


text:
nameword

Etymology
From. Compare 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) A designation or name given to an object, person or location.
 * 2)  A noun.

title: nameword


text:
Talk:interpretor

Page creation
Note: I created the main article, but by mistake was not logged in when I did it. What can be done to rectify the situation?

--Mortense 19:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:interpretor


text:
rugini

Etymology
From. Compare also 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to rust
 * 2) to corrode

title: rugini


text:
seabhag-ghorm

Noun

 * 1) peregrine falcon

title: seabhag-ghorm


text: seabhaig-guirme

title: seabhaig-guirme


text: seabhagan-gorma

title: seabhagan-gorma


text: guirme

title: guirme


text: seabhaig

title: seabhaig


text: seabhagan

title: seabhagan


text: teorien

title: teorien


text: teoriar

title: teoriar


text: teoriane

title: teoriane


text:
imperscrutabilmente

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) inscrutably

title: imperscrutabilmente


text:
bacadh-cadail

Noun

 * 1) insomnia

title: bacadh-cadail


text: bacaidh-cadail

title: bacaidh-cadail


text:
insindacabilmente

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) unquestionably

title: insindacabilmente


text: bacaidhean-cadail

title: bacaidhean-cadail


text: cadail

title: cadail


text:
adorabilmente

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) adorably

title: adorabilmente


text: bacaidh

title: bacaidh


text: bacaidhean

title: bacaidhean


text:
hospitero

Noun

 * 1) host

title: hospitero


text:
miazăzi

Etymology
. Compare 🇨🇬; cf. also Catalan, Occitan , French , Italian , Spanish and Portuguese. Was the traditional word for "south", but was replaced by.

Noun

 * 1)  south

title: miazăzi


text: hospiteros

title: hospiteros


text:
doille-fhaclan

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) dyslexia

title: doille-fhaclan


text: doille-faclan

title: doille-faclan


text:
amiază

Etymology
From, from. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬. Alternatively, from Latin, variant of the standard (compare 🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) noon, midday
 * 2)  south
 * 1)  south

title: amiază


text: Category:ar:Reptiles

title: Category:ar:Reptiles


text:
sidste

Adjective

 * 1) last
 * 2) latest
 * 3) latter
 * 4) past

title: sidste


text:
dall air faclan

Adjective

 * 1) dyslexic

title: dall air faclan


text:
adorabilemente

Adverb

 * 1) adorably

title: adorabilemente


text:
Talk:crowdsourcing

Another sense
This is the sense for the term on MacMillan Dictionary: "trying to find a way of completing a task, a solution to a problem, etc. by asking a wide range of people or organisations if they can help, typically by using the Internet." I think this sense has a lot in it that is not fully covered by the existing Wiktionary sense ("delegating a task to a large diffuse group, usually without substantial monetary compensation"). Moreover, by my reading of this term in recent years, I think the MacMillan definition is more representative as to how the word is normally used. What do others think? N2e 20:43, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Currently, the only sense given in the entry is this: "delegating a task to a large diffuse group, usually without substantial monetary compensation".  I think that gets at one sense of how the term is used, and is thus valid.  In this case, some decision maker or one-to-whom-has-authority "delegates" out the task.  Fine.

 * But what about the spontaneous order or emergent sense? One in which noone is in charge but the diffuse and amorphous crowd of "little people" each do their thing (write on a blog, share photographs or video, etc.) and, only after the fact, can an observer note that the outcome (say, coverage of a disaster or other news event) had been crowdsourced.  In this case, the sense that says "delegating" cannot be correct, so we really do need a second sense. N2e 19:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

RFV discussion
Rfv-senses 2 to 5 - seem to be not much different from the first. Shouldn't the first definition just be expanded a little? SemperBlotto 09:55, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd happily delete 2 and 3, but 4 and 5 seem a bit different. They should be here at RFV (where I think they will fail). Any objections to straight deleting 2 and 3? Mglovesfun (talk) 10:00, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks as if the contributor wants us to sort out the "definitions" offered by various sources. Sense 2 is from WP. Sense 1 includes all the others. Who performed a task previously is immaterial to the definition. For example, the task might be one never performed before, as a not-for-profit organization compiling a new set of linked online reference works. In principle, there could be pay for some or all of the crowd, as in crowdsourcing to one's employees. DCDuring TALK 11:18, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm the one who added those. The important difference between {1,4,5} on the one hand, and {2,3} on the other, is that 2 and 3 make no reference to the amount of compensation. This seems to me to be more like what you would expect the word to mean by analogy with the word "outsourcing"; that is, it means merely employing the crowd, with no implicit judgment about fairness. However, in some quarters the word "crowdsourcing" seems to have acquired the negative connotation of exploitation. For example,

 * "one name you may have heard is called crowdsourcing. crowdsourcing is a system where you get a lot of suckers and yahoos and rubes, and you get them to do a lot of work for you, and then you take all that work that they gave to you and you sell it back to them, and you make a lot of money and these guys all get screwed over, and it's really fantastic, and it's the best kind of business ever, and if you've read books like wikinomics, or other kinds of wiki economics books, this is the kind of model that they're trying to sell, that there's a sucker born every minute, and if you can get them to work on your site for free, ha ha ha. I think that's possibly the worst thing I've ever heard. I really think that's a terrible system, I hate the term crowdsourcing, it's one of the ugliest terms yet invented on the internet." -- 10:55 of Evan Prodromou's talk on Wiki Commercialization

 * So, {2,3} are the only definitions in the list which provide a sense of the word when it is not connoting exploitation, but merely employment of the crowd. It seems to me that there are at least two sense of the word, one exploitative and one not. Btw, {3,4,5} are from http://p2pfoundation.net/Crowdsourcing

 * I guess I'm supposed to find more uses of the non-exploitative/having-nothing-to-do-with-cheapness sense?
 * "First identified by journalist Jeff Howe in a June 2006 Wired article, “crowdsourcing” describes the process by which the power of the many can be leveraged to accomplish feats that were once the province of the specialized few." -- http://www.amazon.com/Crowdsourcing-Power-Driving-Future-Business/dp/0307396207

 * "...and the word they invented, crowdsourcing, was defined as the tapping of "the latent talent of the [online] crowd"" -- page 4 of http://www.amazon.com/reader/0132244799?_encoding=UTF8&ref_=sib_books_pg&qid=1276076938&query=crowdsourcing#reader_0132244799 We Are Smarter Than Me: How to Unleash the Power of Crowds in Your Business (Hardcover) by Barry Libert (Author), Jon Spector (Author), Don Tapscott (Foreword)

 * "Simply defined, crowdsourcing represents the act of a company or institution taking a function once performed by employees and outsourcing it to an undefined (and generally large) network of people in the form of an open call. This can take the form of peer-production (when the job is performed collaboratively), but is also often undertaken by sole individuals. The crucial prerequisite is the use of the open call format and the large network of potential laborers. (2006a: 5)" quote of Howe via Crowdsourcing as a Model for Problem Solving, DC Brabham, DOI: 10.1177/1354856507084420.

 * and, the source of sense 3 isn't "durable" media, but it is a direct quote from the blog of the person who coined the term, which should count for something.. "I like to use two definitions for crowdsourcing:
 * The White Paper Version: Crowdsourcing is the act of taking a job traditionally performed by a designated agent (usually an employee) and outsourcing it to an undefined, generally large group of people in the form of an open call.
 * The Soundbyte Version: The application of Open Source principles to fields outside of software." -- http://crowdsourcing.typepad.com/
 * The Soundbyte Version: The application of Open Source principles to fields outside of software." -- http://crowdsourcing.typepad.com/

 * Bayle Shanks 09:34, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

RFV failed, senses removed. —Ruakh TALK 17:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

neologism?
Isn't this too old and widespread to be a neologism? 85.152.140.177 10:29, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:crowdsourcing


text: adorabiles

title: adorabiles


text:
miazănoapte

Etymology
, accusative of. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, Romansch mesanotg. Was the traditional word for "north", but was replaced by.

Noun

 * 1)  north

title: miazănoapte


text:
aðgát

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) care, caution
 * 2) * Einar Benediktsson
 * Aðgát skal höfð í nærveru sálar.
 * Exercise caution in the presence of a soul.

title: aðgát


text:
軋轢

Verb

 * 1) to crush
 * 2) to bully

Noun

 * 1) conflict

title: 軋轢


text:
難航

Noun

 * 1) hard flight, rough passage
 * 2) difficulties, rough time

Verb

 * 1) have a hard flight, have a rough passage
 * 2) run into difficulties, have a rough time

title: 難航


text:
răsărit

Etymology
From the verb. Was the traditional word for "east", but now is used as the standard term.

Noun

 * 1) sunrise
 * 2)  east, Orient
 * 1)  east, Orient

title: răsărit


text:
proxénétisme

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) proxenetism, pimping

title: proxénétisme


text:
活発

Etymology
→ →

.

Adjective

 * 1) active, vigorous, spirited, perky, vivacious

Noun

 * 1)  activity, vigor, vivacity

title: 活発


text:
răsări

Etymology
From, from +. Synchronically derivable from. Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to rise, arise, spring, sprout
 * 2) to appear, turn up
 * 3)  to rise

title: răsări


text:
coup du chapeau

Noun

 * 1)  hat trick

title: coup du chapeau


text:
rond central

Noun

 * 1)  centre circle

title: rond central


text:
tour du chapeau

Noun

 * 1)  hat trick

title: tour du chapeau


text:
apărea

Etymology
, present active infinitive of (19th century), with conjugation based on  (using the model of  and ; cf. also Spanish ).

Verb

 * 1) to appear, show up, turn up, emerge

title: apărea


text:
trimbaler

Etymology
From an alteration of (perhaps with influence from  or ), itself an expressive word probably formed on the basis of  and ; cf. also Latin.

Verb

 * 1)  to drag
 * 2)  to lug, lug around, cart
 * 3)  to have in mind
 * 4)  to run ragged

title: trimbaler


text: trimballer

title: trimballer


text:
couperet

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) cleaver, butchers' knife;  axe
 * 2)  knockout (match)
 * 1)  knockout (match)
 * 1)  knockout (match)

title: couperet


text:
miotas

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) myth

title: miotas


text:
Munichois

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) resident or native of Munich

title: Munichois


text:
munichois

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  of Munich

title: munichois


text: apparere

title: apparere


text:
miotaseolaíocht

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) mythology

title: miotaseolaíocht


text:
carton rouge

Noun

 * 1)  red card

title: carton rouge


text: labernd

title: labernd


text: labrest

title: labrest


text: labertest

title: labertest


text: labertet

title: labertet


text: labert

title: labert


text: gelabert

title: gelabert


text:
laber

Adjective

 * 1) nice
 * 2) pretty
 * 3) alluring
 * 4)  not very strong wind

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) moderate ( / breeze)

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) moderate ( / breeze)

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1)  weak, moderate

title: laber


text: laberten

title: laberten


text: laberet

title: laberet


text: laberest

title: laberest


text: laberte

title: laberte


text: laberst

title: laberst


text: labere

title: labere


text:
Talk:brahmana

sense 3
This seems to be for "Brahmana" not "brahmana." Perhaps it should be taken out? Nicoleta

title: Talk:brahmana


text: Category:Serbo-Croatian terms suffixed with -an


text: Category:fi:Broadcasting

title: Category:fi:Broadcasting


text:
faire le gros dos

Verb

 * 1)  to arch one's back
 * 2)  to weather the storm, lie low

title: faire le gros dos


text: aranysakálok

title: aranysakálok


text:
faire mouche

Verb

 * 1) to hit the bullseye
 * 2)  to come off; to hit home, to hit the nail on the head

title: faire mouche


text:
apune

Etymology
, present active infinitive of.

Verb

 * 1) to fade, decline
 * 2)  to set
 * 3)  to die
 * 1)  to die

title: apune


text: Category:str:Arthropods

title: Category:str:Arthropods


text: Category:de:Goats

title: Category:de:Goats


text:
Rhodanien

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) resident or native of the Rhône department

title: Rhodanien


text:
rhodanien

Etymology
From +.

Adjective

 * 1)  of the Rhône department

Noun

 * 1)  the Provençal dialect spoken on the banks of the Rhône

title: rhodanien


text: apponere

title: apponere


text:
spi

Noun

 * 1)  spinnaker

Etymology
From, alternative form of. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) ear or spike of grain

title: spi


text:
orthodromie

Noun

 * 1) orthodromic distance

title: orthodromie


text:
orthodromique

Adjective

 * 1) orthodromic

title: orthodromique


text:
génois

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Genoese, Genovese, Genoan

Noun

 * 1)  genoa (sail)

title: génois


text:
appono

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to appoint, assign
 * 2) to place near, set before (on table), serve up, appose
 * 3) to put, apply, add to
 * 1) to put, apply, add to

Descendants

 * Old Francoprovençal: apondre
 * Old Francoprovençal: apondre
 * Old Francoprovençal: apondre
 * Old Francoprovençal: apondre

title: appono


text:
Génois

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) Genoan

title: Génois


text:
actu

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1)   deed
 * 2)   division of theatrical performance

Noun

 * 1)  actuarial science

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  news

title: actu


text:
elbűvöl

Verb

 * 1)  to charm, to bewitch

title: elbűvöl


text:
aponer

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1)  to appose
 * 2)  to impute, to blame, to assign guilt to

title: aponer


text:
parleur

Adjective

 * 1) talkative

Noun

 * 1) speaker someone who speaks

title: parleur


text:
User talk:173.76.57.216

Scooby doo, etc.
This is not a dictionary entry. Please see the WT:CFI and WT:ELE. —Internoob (Disc•Cont) 22:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

title: User talk:173.76.57.216


text: NKDA

title: NKDA


text:
antiraciste

Adjective

 * 1) antiracist

title: antiraciste


text:
émanciper

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1) to emancipate

title: émanciper


text:
émancipation

Etymology
..

Noun

 * 1) emancipation

title: émancipation


text: 言论

title: 言论


text:
言論

Noun

 * 1) open discussion on public affairs; views; remarks

Verb

 * 1) to talk; to discuss

Noun

 * 1) speech (as in freedom of speech)

title: 言論


text: 言论自由

title: 言论自由


text:
言論自由

Noun

 * 1) freedom of speech; free speech

title: 言論自由


text:
合同

Noun

 * 1) contract; agreement
 * 2)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence
 * 1)  congruence

Synonyms

Adjective

 * 1)  combined, united, joined

Noun

 * 1) union, combination
 * 2)  congruence

Verb

 * 1) combine

title: 合同


text: 烤炉

title: 烤炉


text:
烤爐

Noun

 * 1) oven

title: 烤爐


text:
-oi

Etymology
From the, the second-declension masculine nominative plural case ending — the plural form of ; compare the equivalents of the Latin second declension ( → ), with which the Grecian case endings are usually substituted in English words, especially in the plural.

Etymology
, . See also the feminine. Compare 🇨🇬. Additionally, cf. 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, which are also augmentative suffixes.

Suffix

 * 1) used to make a masculine version of (e.g., )
 * 2) in a few cases, used as a deprecative or slightly derogatory suffix, especially relating to people (e.g., )

title: -oi


text:
Зимбабве

Etymology
From, in reference to.

Etymology
From, in reference to.

Etymology
From, in reference to.

title: Зимбабве


text:
Ruadhán

Etymology
From, from. .

Proper noun

 * , sometimes Anglicized as Rowan
 * 1)  A character from Irish mythology, son of.

title: Ruadhán


text:
Rúadán

Etymology
From. .

Proper noun

 * 1)  A character from Irish mythology, son of  and.

title: Rúadán


text:
culme

Etymology
, from, from.

Noun

 * 1) peak, top, apex, summit
 * 2) climax, culmination
 * 3) height

title: culme


text:
Tamais

Proper noun

 * 1) the Thames

title: Tamais


text:
Sabhrainn

Etymology
From (compare 🇨🇬).

Proper noun

 * 1) the Severn

title: Sabhrainn


text:
Oranócó

Proper noun

 * 1) The Orinoco

title: Oranócó


text:
Iordáin

Etymology
From, from , from.

title: Iordáin


text:
Iondúis

Proper noun

 * 1) the Indus River

title: Iondúis


text:
ʄ

Symbol

 * 1)  a voiced palatal implosive.
 * 2)  -release, -coloring, or a weak, fleeting or epenthetic.

title: ʄ


text:
Gainséis

Proper noun

 * 1) The Ganges River

title: Gainséis


text:
Eilbe

Proper noun

 * 1) The Elbe River

title: Eilbe


text:
ɫ

Symbol

 * 1)  a velarized/pharyngealized, a dark l. (See ⟨◌̴⟩.)
 * 2)  -coloring, -release (of a plosive), or a weak, fleeting or epenthetic.

Alternative forms

 * ɬ

title: ɫ


text:
Eabró

Proper noun

 * 1) The Ebro

title: Eabró


text: Category:ga:India

title: Category:ga:India


text: Category:ga:Hinduism

title: Category:ga:Hinduism


text:
Eoraip

Etymology
From, from.

Proper noun

 * 1) Europe

title: Eoraip


text:
hang fire

Verb

 * 1)  To fail to fire immediately when the trigger is pulled.
 * 2)  To wait or hold back.
 * 1)  To wait or hold back.

Noun

 * 1)  The situation when a gun does not immediately fire when the trigger is pulled, but may fire shortly after.

Usage notes

 * If the gun does not fire at all when triggered, the term misfire is normally used.

title: hang fire


text:
Eorpach

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) European

Noun

 * 1) European person

title: Eorpach


text: Template:list:Latin script letter names/de


text: Category:German list templates

title: Category:German list templates


text: Category:Latin terms suffixed with -tura


text: Template:list:Latin script letter names/es


text: Template:list:Greek script letter names/es


text:
scriptura

Noun

 * 1) writing
 * 2) scripture

Etymology 1
From.

Noun

 * 1) a writing, something written
 * 2) a composition (act of writing)
 * 3)  a passage of scripture

title: scriptura


text: -turae

title: -turae


text: -turis

title: -turis


text: -turas

title: -turas


text: boogschutters

title: boogschutters


text: -turam

title: -turam


text: -turarum

title: -turarum


text:
ɯ

Symbol

 * 1)  a
 * 2)  -coloring or a weak, fleeting, epenthetic or echo.
 * 3)  a, IPA.

Synonyms

 * in UPA: u̮

title: ɯ


text:
ɨ

Symbol

 * 1)  a  (as in English roses)
 * 2)  -coloring or a weak, fleeting, epenthetic or echo.

Noun

 * 1) water

title: ɨ


text:
ɞ

Alternative forms
The letter was adopted into the IPA in 1921 as $⟨⟩$, alongside unrounded $⟨⟩$, then abandoned. It was brought back in 1993. However, due to a confusion of sources, this form was thought to be an error, and it was replaced with the current form $⟨⟩$ (closed $⟨⟩$ rather than the intended closed $⟨⟩$) in 1996. The original turned epsilon $⟨⟩$ had been replaced with a reversed epsilon $⟨⟩$ sometime between 1957 and 1989.

Symbol

 * 1)  an.
 * 2)  -coloring or a weak, fleeting, epenthetic or echo.

title: ɞ


text:
ɜ

Alternative forms
The letter was adopted into the IPA in 1921 as a turned epsilon $⟨⟩$. Sometime between the IPA chart published in 1957 and the 1989 Kiel Convention, it started to be rendered as a reversed epsilon $⟨⟩$, its current form.

Symbol

 * 1)  An.
 * 2)  -coloring or a weak, fleeting, epenthetic or echo.
 * 3)  A vowel of uncertain quality.

title: ɜ


text:
înfuleca

Etymology
From a root, from , present active infinitive of , from , or alternatively from , present active infinitive of , from.

Verb

 * 1) to wolf down, engorge, gorge

title: înfuleca


text:
repede

Etymology
. The ending of -e was probably a later change in declension within Romanian, though some have tried to explain it with a Latin root (only a rarely used regional western Transylvanian variant,, kept the original form). .

Adjective

 * 1) fast, quick, rapid

Adverb

 * 1) fast, quickly, rapidly

title: repede


text:
two-spirited

Adjective

 * Of, pertaining to or being a two-spirit.

title: two-spirited


text:
ⱱ

Symbol

 * 1)  a labiodental flap.
 * 2)  a flapped -release, -coloring, or a weak, fleeting or epenthetic.

title: ⱱ


text:
ʥ

Symbol

 * 1)  a voiced alveolo-palatal affricate.
 * 2)  a weak, fleeting or epenthetic.

Usage notes

 * Officially replaced by the sequence ⟨d͡ʑ⟩ or ⟨d͜ʑ⟩ but still common.

title: ʥ


text: jackalling

title: jackalling


text: jackalled

title: jackalled


text:
îmbuca

Etymology
, from. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to eat quickly, gobble up, tongue, swallow, lap
 * 2) to take, have
 * 3) to interlock, mesh

title: îmbuca


text:
credulus

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) that easily believes a thing, easy of belief
 * 2) credulous, gullible
 * 3) trusting, trusting in
 * 4) full of confidence in, confiding in
 * 1) full of confidence in, confiding in

title: credulus


text:
credulitas

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) credulity, easiness of belief

Related terms

 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās
 * incrēdibiltās

title: credulitas


text: glutire

title: glutire


text:
gluttio

Etymology
Perhaps from, extension from (whence ). Cognate with, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to swallow, gulp down

title: gluttio


text: glutio

title: glutio


text: gluttire

title: gluttire


text:
dif-

Usage notes
The prefix form dif- appears only when the prefix dis- is added to a word beginning with f, as in from, or  from.

title: dif-


text:
User:Logical123

Hi. This is my page. I like knowledge. Go wiki!

title: User:Logical123


text: Template:list:Latin script letters/pt

title: Template:list:Latin script letters/pt


text:
páhæna

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a peahen

title: páhæna


text:
páfugl

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a peafowl
 * 2) a male peafowl, a peacock

title: páfugl


text:
User talk:67.165.122.127

--EncycloPetey 03:37, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

title: User talk:67.165.122.127


text:
kortikaalinen

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Adapted with the adjectival suffix.

Adjective

 * 1)  cortical
 * 2)  cortical

title: kortikaalinen


text:
îmbina

Etymology
Probably from a root, from  (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬), from. Alternatively, possibly from a related root (compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬); the expected result in Romanian,, may have been interpreted as a verbal adjective and crossed with. A variant form also exists, as well as an antonym  and variant, with various other etymologies having been proposed for each.

Verb

 * 1) to combine, join, unite
 * 2) to arrange
 * 3) to match

title: îmbina


text:
aivokuorenalainen

Etymology
🇰🇲

Adjective

 * 1)  subcortical of or pertaining to the subcortex

title: aivokuorenalainen


text:
subkortikaalinen

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Adapted with the adjectival suffix.

Adjective

 * 1)  subcortical of or pertaining to the subcortex
 * Hänellä diagnosoitiin subkortikaalinen dementia.
 * He was diagnosed with subcortical dementia.

title: subkortikaalinen


text:
Talk:compound

Etymologies appear identical
Etymology 1 and 2 look identical. Should be combined? Facts707 04:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The only difference is the "Possibly from Malay kampong, kampung (“‘group of buildings, village’”)." at the end of ety 1. This was why I didn't combine them when I did the bit of cleanup yesterday. I'm not sure that it actually fits though - perhaps we should take it to the tearoom? Thryduulf 08:02, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Demarcation in linguistics
For demarcation in linguistics, see Talk:open compound. It is open compounds that created most of the confusion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:31, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:compound


text:
adrenokortikaalinen

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Adapted with the adjectival suffix.

Adjective

 * 1)  adrenocortical of or pertaining to the adrenal cortex

title: adrenokortikaalinen


text: credințe

title: credințe


text:
lisämunuaiskuori

Noun

 * 1)  adrenal cortex outer part of adrenal gland

title: lisämunuaiskuori


text: Category:Russian list templates

title: Category:Russian list templates


text:
dissimilis

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) unlike, dissimilar, different

title: dissimilis


text: Template:list:Cyrillic script letter names/ru


text:
User talk:Abigoose

Wiktionary is not a message board or blog. It is a dictionary. --EncycloPetey 04:48, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

title: User talk:Abigoose


text: Category:Cyrillic letter names

title: Category:Cyrillic letter names


text:
disímil

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) dissimilar

title: disímil


text: disímiles

title: disímiles


text:
э оборотное

Noun

 * 1) Name of the letter Э, э, also called э

title: э оборотное


text:
talamokortikaalinen

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Adapted with the adjectival suffix.

Adjective

 * 1)  thalamocortical relating to, or connecting the thalamus and the cerebral cortex

title: talamokortikaalinen


text:
déroger

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to repeal (a law)
 * 2) to break, contravene, infringe (a law), to break away (from a tradition)

title: déroger