text: incarnationibus

title: incarnationibus


text: incarnationem

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: incarnationem


text: incarnatione

title: incarnatione


text:
detailee

Noun

 * 1) An employee of a United States government agency on assignment or loan.

title: detailee


text:
indulgentia

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) leniency, concession, pardon
 * 2) indulgence, gentleness, complaisance, tenderness, fondness, kindness
 * 3)  indulgence, remission
 * 1)  indulgence, remission
 * 1)  indulgence, remission
 * 1)  indulgence, remission

title: indulgentia


text: indulgentiae

title: indulgentiae


text: indulgentiarum

title: indulgentiarum


text: indulgentiis

title: indulgentiis


text: indulgentiam

title: indulgentiam


text: indulgentias

title: indulgentias


text:
infidelis

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) unfaithful
 * 2) treacherous, disloyal
 * 3) unbelieving, infidel

title: infidelis


text:
infidele

Adjective

 * 1) unfaithful

Noun

 * 1) infidel

title: infidele


text: infideles

title: infideles


text: infidelia

title: infidelia


text: infidelium

title: infidelium


text: infideli

title: infideli


text: infidelibus

title: infidelibus


text: infidelem

title: infidelem


text:
iniquitas

Etymology
From, from +.

Noun

 * 1) unfairness, inequality, unevenness
 * 2) injustice, inequity
 * 3) iniquity
 * 4) crime
 * 1) crime

title: iniquitas


text: iniquitates

title: iniquitates


text: iniquitatis

title: iniquitatis


text: iniquitatum

title: iniquitatum


text: iniquitati

title: iniquitati


text: iniquitatibus

title: iniquitatibus


text: iniquitatem

title: iniquitatem


text: iniquitate

title: iniquitate


text:
veteraan

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) veteran
 * 2)  a player of a higher age (depending on which branch of sports)

title: veteraan


text: veteraantje

title: veteraantje


text: insidiarum

title: insidiarum


text: insidiis

title: insidiis


text: insidiam

title: insidiam


text: insidias

title: insidias


text: intercedis

title: intercedis


text: intercedit

title: intercedit


text: intercedimus

title: intercedimus


text: interceditis

title: interceditis


text: intercedunt

title: intercedunt


text: intercedam

title: intercedam


text:
globemaker

Noun

 * 1) A person or business that produces globes of the Earth and other planets.

title: globemaker


text: intercedet

title: intercedet


text: intercedemus

title: intercedemus


text: intercedetis

title: intercedetis


text:
intercedent

Etymology
From , present participle of.

Adjective

 * 1) Passing between; mediating; pleading.

title: intercedent


text: intercedebam

title: intercedebam


text: globemakers

title: globemakers


text: intercedebas

title: intercedebas


text: intercedebat

title: intercedebat


text: intercedebamus

title: intercedebamus


text: intercedebatis

title: intercedebatis


text: intercedebant

title: intercedebant


text: intercessi

title: intercessi


text: intercessisti

title: intercessisti


text: intercessit

title: intercessit


text: intercessimus

title: intercessimus


text: intercessistis

title: intercessistis


text: intercesserunt

title: intercesserunt


text: intercessero

title: intercessero


text: intercesseris

title: intercesseris


text: intercesserit

title: intercesserit


text: intercesserimus

title: intercesserimus


text: intercesseritis

title: intercesseritis


text: intercesserint

title: intercesserint


text: intercesseram

title: intercesseram


text: intercesseras

title: intercesseras


text: intercesserat

title: intercesserat


text: intercesseramus

title: intercesseramus


text: intercesseratis

title: intercesseratis


text: intercesserant

title: intercesserant


text: intercedor

title: intercedor


text: intercederis

title: intercederis


text: interceditur

title: interceditur


text: intercedimur

title: intercedimur


text: intercedimini

title: intercedimini


text: interceduntur

title: interceduntur


text: intercedar

title: intercedar


text: intercedetur

title: intercedetur


text: intercedemur

title: intercedemur


text: intercedemini

title: intercedemini


text: intercedentur

title: intercedentur


text: intercedebar

title: intercedebar


text: intercedebaris

title: intercedebaris


text: intercedebatur

title: intercedebatur


text: intercedebamur

title: intercedebamur


text: intercedebamini

title: intercedebamini


text: intercedebantur

title: intercedebantur


text: intercedat

title: intercedat


text: intercedamus

title: intercedamus


text: intercedatis

title: intercedatis


text: intercedant

title: intercedant


text: intercederem

title: intercederem


text: intercederes

title: intercederes


text: intercederet

title: intercederet


text: intercederemus

title: intercederemus


text: intercederetis

title: intercederetis


text: intercederent

title: intercederent


text: intercesserim

title: intercesserim


text: intercessissem

title: intercessissem


text: intercessisses

title: intercessisses


text:
globemaking

Noun

 * 1) The activity of manufacturing representations of the Earth or other planets.

title: globemaking


text: intercessisset

title: intercessisset


text: intercessissemus

title: intercessissemus


text: intercessissetis

title: intercessissetis


text: intercessissent

title: intercessissent


text: intercedaris

title: intercedaris


text: intercedatur

title: intercedatur


text: intercedamur

title: intercedamur


text: intercedamini

title: intercedamini


text: intercedantur

title: intercedantur


text: intercederer

title: intercederer


text: intercedereris

title: intercedereris


text: intercederetur

title: intercederetur


text: intercederemur

title: intercederemur


text: intercederemini

title: intercederemini


text: intercederentur

title: intercederentur


text: intercedito

title: intercedito


text: intercedite

title: intercedite


text: interceditote

title: interceditote


text: intercedunto

title: intercedunto


text: interceditor

title: interceditor


text: interceduntor

title: interceduntor


text: intercessisse

title: intercessisse


text: jejunium

title: jejunium


text: jejunia

title: jejunia


text: jejunii

title: jejunii


text: jejuniorum

title: jejuniorum


text: jejunio

title: jejunio


text: jejuniis

title: jejuniis


text: ieiunia

title: ieiunia


text: ieiunii

title: ieiunii


text: ieiuniorum

title: ieiuniorum


text: ieiunio

title: ieiunio


text: ieiuniis

title: ieiuniis


text:
intercedens

Etymology
Present active participle of

Participle

 * 1) intervening
 * 2) interceding
 * 3) interrupting
 * 4) vetoing

title: intercedens


text: intercedentes

title: intercedentes


text: intercedentia

title: intercedentia


text: intercedentis

title: intercedentis


text: intercedentium

title: intercedentium


text: intercedenti

title: intercedenti


text: intercedentibus

title: intercedentibus


text: intercedentem

title: intercedentem


text: judicium

title: judicium


text: judicia

title: judicia


text: judicii

title: judicii


text: judiciorum

title: judiciorum


text: judicio

title: judicio


text: judiciis

title: judiciis


text:
largior

Etymology 1
Comparative degree of.

Etymology 2
From.

Verb

 * 1) to grant, bestow, dispense, distribute, impart
 * 2) to lavish or bestow
 * 3) to give bribes
 * 1) to give bribes
 * 1) to give bribes

title: largior


text: largiris

title: largiris


text: largitur

title: largitur


text: largimur

title: largimur


text: largimini

title: largimini


text: largiuntur

title: largiuntur


text: largiar

title: largiar


text: largieris

title: largieris


text: largietur

title: largietur


text: largiemur

title: largiemur


text: largiemini

title: largiemini


text: largientur

title: largientur


text: largiebar

title: largiebar


text: largiebaris

title: largiebaris


text: largiebatur

title: largiebatur


text: largiebamur

title: largiebamur


text: largiebamini

title: largiebamini


text: largiebantur

title: largiebantur


text: largiaris

title: largiaris


text: largiatur

title: largiatur


text: largiamur

title: largiamur


text: largiamini

title: largiamini


text: largiantur

title: largiantur


text: largirer

title: largirer


text: largireris

title: largireris


text: largiretur

title: largiretur


text: largiremur

title: largiremur


text: largiremini

title: largiremini


text: largirentur

title: largirentur


text:
largitor

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) bestower, granter, dispenser, distributer, imparter

title: largitor


text: largiuntor

title: largiuntor


text: largiri

title: largiri


text:
едно

Etymology 1
Neuter form of (standard inherited stem ).

Etymology 2
Nominalization of.

Noun

 * 1) one number or digit 1

title: едно


text:
miseratio

Noun

 * 1) pity, compassion, commiseration

title: miseratio


text: miserationes

title: miserationes


text: miserationis

title: miserationis


text: miserationum

title: miserationum


text: miserationi

title: miserationi


text: miserationibus

title: miserationibus


text: miserationem

title: miserationem


text: miseratione

title: miseratione


text:
misericors

Etymology
From 🇰🇲.

Adjective

 * 1) merciful, compassionate
 * 2) tenderhearted, sympathetic
 * 3) mean, pitiful, contemptible
 * 1) tenderhearted, sympathetic
 * 2) mean, pitiful, contemptible

title: misericors


text: misericordis

title: misericordis


text: misericordium

title: misericordium


text: misericordi

title: misericordi


text: misericordibus

title: misericordibus


text: misericordem

title: misericordem


text: monachi

title: monachi


text: monachorum

title: monachorum


text: monacho

title: monacho


text: monachis

title: monachis


text: monachum

title: monachum


text: monachos

title: monachos


text: paraclitus

title: paraclitus


text: paracliti

title: paracliti


text: paraclitorum

title: paraclitorum


text: paraclito

title: paraclito


text: paraclitis

title: paraclitis


text: paraclitum

title: paraclitum


text: paraclitos

title: paraclitos


text: paraclite

title: paraclite


text: passiones

title: passiones


text: passionis

title: passionis


text: passionum

title: passionum


text: passionibus

title: passionibus


text: passionem

title: passionem


text:
resync

Etymology
Shortening of resynchronization.

Noun

 * 1) resynchronization

Verb

 * 1) to resynchronize

title: resync


text: resyncing

title: resyncing


text: resynced

title: resynced


text: resyncs

title: resyncs


text: resyntheses

title: resyntheses


text:
peak body

Noun

 * 1)  An organisation which represents an entire sector of industry or the community to the government, often incorporating other organisations in that area.

title: peak body


text:
سلام رساندن

Verb

 * 1) Give one's regards

title: سلام رساندن


text: broomrapes

title: broomrapes


text:
sprigging

Noun

 * 1) ornamentation in the form of sprigs or sprays

title: sprigging


text: peak bodies

title: peak bodies


text: pupped

title: pupped


text: pupping

title: pupping


text: rogued

title: rogued


text: roguing

title: roguing


text:
peak organisation

Noun

 * 1)  An organisation which represents an entire sector of industry or the community to the government, often incorporating other organisations in that area.
 * 2) * 1997, James Elliott, Tourism: Politics and Public Sector Management, Routledge, UK, |%22peak+organisations%22+-intitle:%22%22+-inauthor:%22%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mvTVT8jSHqikiAeO_LCqAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22peak%20organisation%22|%22peak%20organisations%22%20-intitle%3A%22%22%20-inauthor%3A%22%22&f=false page 187,
 * A peak organisation seeks to represent all the companies within that industry. There are several peak organisations in the tourism industry.
 * 1) * 2005, Alfred C. Aman, Jr, Globalisation, Democracy, and the Need for a New Administrative Law, Michael Likosky (editor), Privatising Development: Transnational Law, Infrastructure and Human Rights, Brill Academic Publishers, UK, |%22peak+organisations%22+-intitle:%22%22+-inauthor:%22%22&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mvTVT8jSHqikiAeO_LCqAw&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=%22peak%20organisation%22|%22peak%20organisations%22%20-intitle%3A%22%22%20-inauthor%3A%22%22&f=false page 289,
 * Peak organisations are not at all typical in the U.S., but the economic discourse that increasingly dominates much of regulation, and certainly, the raison d′etre for privatisation, narrows the discourse in such a way as to make most groups sound essentially the same. There may be no peak organisation, per se, but the discourse is so similar that this may be a distinction without a difference.
 * Peak organisations are not at all typical in the U.S., but the economic discourse that increasingly dominates much of regulation, and certainly, the raison d′etre for privatisation, narrows the discourse in such a way as to make most groups sound essentially the same. There may be no peak organisation, per se, but the discourse is so similar that this may be a distinction without a difference.

title: peak organisation


text: peak organisations

title: peak organisations


text: detailees

title: detailees


text: Category:The Simpsons

title: Category:The Simpsons


text: Category:The Matrix

title: Category:The Matrix


text:
birdling

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A little bird; birdie; a nestling (young bird, baby bird).

Translations

 * Esperanto: birdeto, virbirdeto, birdetino
 * French:
 * German:, , , , Vogerl ; , Vogeljunges
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: småfugl
 * Nynorsk: småfugl
 * Tagalog: inakay
 * Volapük: bödil, hibödil, jibödil ; , hibödül , jibödül

title: birdling


text: militpaŭzoj

title: militpaŭzoj


text: minimumoj

title: minimumoj


text: minutoj

title: minutoj


text: miozotoj

title: miozotoj


text: mirakloj

title: mirakloj


text: militpaŭzon

title: militpaŭzon


text: minimumon

title: minimumon


text: militpaŭzojn

title: militpaŭzojn


text: minimumojn

title: minimumojn


text: minuton

title: minuton


text: minutojn

title: minutojn


text: miozoton

title: miozoton


text: miraklon

title: miraklon


text: miozotojn

title: miozotojn


text: miraklojn

title: miraklojn


text: Category:Esperanto terms suffixed with -n


text: mirindaĵoj

title: mirindaĵoj


text: misteroj

title: misteroj


text: mjeloj

title: mjeloj


text: mirindaĵon

title: mirindaĵon


text: misteron

title: misteron


text: mirindaĵojn

title: mirindaĵojn


text: misterojn

title: misterojn


text: mjelon

title: mjelon


text: mjelojn

title: mjelojn


text: molanasoj

title: molanasoj


text: momentoj

title: momentoj


text: molanason

title: molanason


text: momenton

title: momenton


text: molanasojn

title: molanasojn


text:
clerkling

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A young or insignificant clerk.

title: clerkling


text: momentojn

title: momentojn


text: monludistoj

title: monludistoj


text: monludiston

title: monludiston


text: monludistojn

title: monludistojn


text: montaroj

title: montaroj


text: montegoj

title: montegoj


text: montetoj

title: montetoj


text: montarojn

title: montarojn


text: montegon

title: montegon


text: monteton

title: monteton


text: montegojn

title: montegojn


text: montetojn

title: montetojn


text:
Phillips screw

Noun

 * 1) A screw with a Phillips head.

title: Phillips screw


text: Phillips screws

title: Phillips screws


text: birdlings

title: birdlings


text: Category:jbo:Foods

title: Category:jbo:Foods


text: Category:jbo:Food and drink

title: Category:jbo:Food and drink


text: Category:User be-1

title: Category:User be-1


text: Category:Esperanto terms suffixed with -atoro


text:
vole nevole

Phrase

 * 1) voluntarily or involuntarily, willingly or unwillingly, like it or lump it

title: vole nevole


text:
Tajik Persian

Proper noun

 * 1) Tajiki (variety of the Persian language)

title: Tajik Persian


text: écritures

title: écritures


text: volon

title: volon


text: volojn

title: volojn


text: voloj

title: voloj


text:
at church every time the doors are open

Prepositional phrase

 * 1)  Religious to the point of excess; ridiculously religious.

title: at church every time the doors are open


text:
pencil pleat

Noun

 * 1) A pleat with a semicylindrical appearance like a row of pencils, often used for curtains.

Translations

 * Irish: pléata pionsail, pléata caol

title: pencil pleat


text:
conqueste

Etymology
From, , from a , from the feminine of.

Noun

 * 1) conquest act or instance of conquering

title: conqueste


text: montriloj

title: montriloj


text: montrilon

title: montrilon


text: montrilojn

title: montrilojn


text: morkeloj

title: morkeloj


text: mortigoj

title: mortigoj


text: mortpunoj

title: mortpunoj


text: moskitoj

title: moskitoj


text: motorbicikloj

title: motorbicikloj


text: morkelon

title: morkelon


text: mortigon

title: mortigon


text: mortpunon

title: mortpunon


text: moskiton

title: moskiton


text: motorbiciklon

title: motorbiciklon


text: morkelojn

title: morkelojn


text: mortigojn

title: mortigojn


text: mortpunojn

title: mortpunojn


text: moskitojn

title: moskitojn


text: motorbiciklojn

title: motorbiciklojn


text: movadoj

title: movadoj


text: movadon

title: movadon


text: movadojn

title: movadojn


text:
pneŭo

Etymology
Apocope of.

Noun

 * 1) pneumatic tire/tyre protective covering of a wheel

title: pneŭo


text:
nonrotting

Adjective

 * 1) Not prone to rotting.

title: nonrotting


text:
pneŭmatiko

Etymology
From and, both from , from.

Noun

 * 1) pneumatic tire/tyre protective covering of a wheel
 * 2)  pneumatics
 * 1)  pneumatics

title: pneŭmatiko


text:
nonpreserved

Adjective

 * 1) Not preserved (in various senses).

title: nonpreserved


text:
kahlekuningas

Noun

 * 1) escape artist

title: kahlekuningas


text:
reconquête

Etymology
From and Early Modern French, corresponding to.

Noun

 * 1) reconquest act of reconquering

title: reconquête


text: reconquêtes

title: reconquêtes


text:
reconqueste

Noun

 * 1) reconquest act or instance of reconquering

title: reconqueste


text: pneŭoj

title: pneŭoj


text:
mythohistorical

Adjective

 * 1) Of or pertaining to mythohistory.

title: mythohistorical


text: pneŭon

title: pneŭon


text: pneŭojn

title: pneŭojn


text:
nitro-hydrochloric acid

Noun

 * 1)  aqua regia

title: nitro-hydrochloric acid


text: pneŭmatikon

title: pneŭmatikon


text: pneŭmatikoj

title: pneŭmatikoj


text: pneŭmatikojn

title: pneŭmatikojn


text:
Talk:reconquer

Dunno if *undefined: is attested in Old French. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:reconquer


text: Category:eo:Auto parts

title: Category:eo:Auto parts


text:
nitro-hydrochloric

Adjective

 * 1)  Containing nitric and hydrochloric ions, see nitro-hydrochloric acid.

title: nitro-hydrochloric


text: Category:eo:Automotive

title: Category:eo:Automotive


text: radoj

title: radoj


text: radojn

title: radojn


text:
ĵipo

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) jeep

title: ĵipo


text: ĵipon

title: ĵipon


text: ĵipojn

title: ĵipojn


text: ĵipoj

title: ĵipoj


text:
demonstrabil

Etymology
and. Equivalent to.

Adjective

 * 1) demonstrable

title: demonstrabil


text:
User talk:212.112.176.91

See Help:Interwikis. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

title: User talk:212.112.176.91


text:
télémark

Noun

 * 1)  telemark

title: télémark


text:
Talk:unlike

Preposition?
The usex "[it is] unlike" seems to justify the adjective, not a preposition. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:16, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Unlike + complement is also used adverbially:
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=cyMNAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA78&dq=unlike
 * This was surely a new Eoin, this man who talked unlike anything she had heard in her life before.
 * and it's pretty unusual for an adjective to take a prepositionless noun as a complement (though it's not completely unheard of; cf. ).
 * But given that, even in this sort of use, it can be modified by and other such adverbs, I'm guessing that — as you say — it's more an adjective than anything else.
 * The OED gives it as an adjective/noun, as a verb, and as an adverb, but not as a preposition.
 * —Ruakh TALK 14:40, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * CGEL shows it as both adjective and preposition. The preposition usex should be removed. I have a citation that shows prep + wh-clause. DCDuring TALK 15:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Re: your second and third sentences: I wonder if we're miscommunicating a bit. In an analysis of "X is unlike Y" such as the OED's, whereby unlike is an adjective, Y is the complement of unlike, and "unlike Y" is modifying X. It's just like "X is different from Y", where Y can be any sort of nominal, the only difference being that unlike construes its complement directly. The OED's analysis would therefore treat your 1926 cite as a use of the adjective, and your 1999 and 2009 cites as uses of the adverb. Since the CGEL shows it as a preposition, I'm on board with keeping the ===Preposition=== section, but maybe a usage note is in order? —Ruakh TALK 17:32, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Would OED then say that "like" as adverb took a clause as complement? Is it a "conjunctive adverb"? That doesn't seem to simplify anything.
 * The preposition vs. adjective tests that CGEL has are: [Square brackets contain bits of my interpretation.]
 * Ps, not Adjs, can occur was head of non-predicate adjunct in a clause [but some Adjs have complements and may look like (!) ]. [CGEL allows no-complement prepositions, which many call adverbs.]
 * PPs cannot occur as complement to become:
 * Adjs are modifiable by "very" and "too" [PPs would require something like "much": "He is very much on top of the problem."]
 * Central prepositions allow NP complements, whereas adjs do not
 * Central prepositions accept modification by right: and straight:
 * Ps taking NP complements can normally be fronted along with their complement in relative and interrogative constructions.
 * Normally 4 is the source or confirmation of a native speaker's understanding of whether something is a preposition, but unlike as an adjective takes a complement. I was having trouble finding verbs that are not sometimes interpreted as copulas that collocate with a "like" phrase for test 1. Tests 2 and 3 require some fine semantic distinctions. Test 5 doesn't seem appropriate semantically. Which left me with Test 6. (1999 and 2009).
 * I think I now have a usage that meets test 1. DCDuring TALK 19:06, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed that the gloss "different from" doesn't work for the non-predicate PPs, which are very much like manner adverbs. "Differently from" seems more natural to me. The clausal complements don't work with "differently from". "In contrast with" or "different from" seem OK, though "different from" seems too adjectival. Should the sense by split as the glosses seem to differ by type of complement? DCDuring TALK 19:29, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * In general, I don't think we should have separate senses for adjectival and adverbial uses of prepositions, any more than, in general, we should have separate senses for attributive and head-of-noun-phrase uses of nouns. —Ruakh TALK 20:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. But we lose the desideratum of substitutability. MW has multiple senses.
 * Re: "Would OED then say that 'like' as adverb took a clause as complement? Is it a 'conjunctive adverb'?": More or less. It includes that use in its “adv. (quasi-prep., conj.)” section, with the definition “Used as conj.: = ‘like as’, as.”
 * (It bears note that the OED tends to base its analyses on historical and etymological development, at least in part, whereas the CGEL makes an effort to give the analysis that best fits present-day English with absolutely no regard for past usage. I think you'll agree that we shouldn't follow the OED slavishly; but we obviously can't follow the CGEL slavishly either, because we cover >500 years' worth of English. More, if you listen to Widsith. Both are very important and useful guides, though.)
 * I don't totally understand this one. :-/
 * gets four independent relevant hits.
 * and get tons of hits. ( and  also get some, but not nearly as many.)
 * O.K., on this front it's clearly preposition-like.
 * I don't think you can blame semantics for this. "In the center" and "central(ly)" have similar semantics, but "right in the center" works and *"right central(ly)" doesn't. That said, gets two independent hits, both of which seem relevant. ( gets none, but that one I will let you blame semantics for.)
 * P-fronting of "unlike" seems to be pretty rare — the first several pages of find no examples — but  does turn up a fair number of examples. (Only in relative clauses. I crafted a number of searches trying to find examples where it's fronted in an interrogative construction, but they found nothing relevant.)
 * —Ruakh TALK 19:59, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wide divergence of treatment in dictionaries. MW has it as conjunction, adjective, and preposition. They have more senses than we do. My Longmans DCE as as preposition a sense that CGEL calls adjectival. I don't thing Cambridge American follows CGEL, either.
 * And we still lack the "unlike in" collocaton. "Unlike in dictionaries, there is a rationale for classification in grammar books." This can be interpreted as an ellipsis for something like "Unlike [what appears] in dictionaries, ....". DCDuring TALK 19:45, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Is "unlike in" a specifically important collocation? For example, is it more "set" than, say, "unlike with"? —Ruakh TALK 20:01, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It is a usage point mentioned in Garner's and MWDEU. DCDuring TALK 22:02, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

 * Consider the following as possible subsenses of the preposition, the question being whether they really represent an adjective sense.
 * different from
 * a landscape unlike any other ~ The landscape was unlike any other.
 * not characteristic of
 * it was unlike him to be late ~ To be late was unlike him.
 * in a different manner from
 * She spoke clearly, unlike the others. ~ ...differently from the others
 * The last seems clearly to be a preposition, making a prepositional phrase that functions as a manner adverb, not functioning as a predicate. Note, however that "very" could appear before "unlike" almost as easily as "very much".
 * The other two seem like adjective uses to me. Note that the usage examples for both suffer from the defect that MG identified. The first more obviously and adjective:
 * Las Vegas became a city (very) unlike any other.
 * "Any other" would seem to be filling a mandatory NP complement slot of the adjective "like" in this sense. The second one seems unnatural with "become", but CGEL also offers "seem" (and "make"):
 * To be late seemed (very) unlike him.
 * They certainly don't accept "right" and "straight" as modifiers. I also can't make those senses fit the relative or interrogative fronting tests. Perhaps someone else can.
 * Thus, I conclude that, in contrast with worth:, which does not form PPs that function adverbially, "like" is a preposition, but not with the senses "different from" and "not characteristic of", which are adjective senses. This would put us at odds with MW (from whose "unlike" preposition entry the above senses were taken), Longmans, and other dictionaries that I have looked at. Were it not for the explicit criteria that CGEL provides, I would not waste time disagreeing with so many authorities. DCDuring TALK 01:07, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

RFV discussion
Verb sense. Obviously a neologism, but perhaps one which meets our criteria. -Atelaes λάλει ἐμοί 01:02, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added and cited a sense "dislike", which I discovered in the course of attempting to cite the senses originally challenged. Accordingly, the RfV is now two rfv-senses. I am skeptical that there are two separate attestable senses. I expect that we will have to use usenet to attest to the RfVed senses or a merged sense. DCDuring TALK 10:44, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I found only one mentiony citation from William Safire. There might be something on usenet, but not for forms "unliked" or "unliking". More creativity required in searching. DCDuring TALK 11:25, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

RFV failed, senses removed. The Facebooky sense had two cites, both now at Citations:unlike (one being the mentiony Safire cite that DCDuring mentions, though it's actually from Ben Zimmer). Besides those two, I found one other relevant use on Usenet, but it's playing with this sense rather than quite being in this sense, and I didn't feel comfortable using it. —Ruakh TALK 19:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Usage has picked up in the last 6 months. I have added two cites. It is still often used in inverted commas. DCDuring TALK 19:49, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I checked the last seven months of Usenet and didn't find anything new; it didn't occur to me to try the last six months of Google News Archive. Unstriking. —Ruakh TALK 20:38, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

RFV passed. —Ruakh TALK 00:49, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Adverb → Preposition
Stanford Parser's parsing for quotation "He walked unlike other men.":

(ROOT (S (NP (PRP He)) (VP (VBD walked)     (PP (IN unlike) (NP (JJ other) (NNS men)))) (. .)))

PP = Prepositional Phrase (functioning, as a whole, like an adverb.)

IN = Preposition or subordinating conjunction. (Here it would be a preposition since it heads a PP.) —AugPi 15:21, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Stress on first syllable?
In the sense "unlike my brother, I like sport", isn't the first syllable stressed? Equinox ◑ 04:17, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

title: Talk:unlike


text:
incorrigibleness

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) The quality of being incorrigible; incorrigibility.

title: incorrigibleness


text:
Talk:snigger

Spelling
Should there be a mention that nowadays a lot of people write snicker because snigger looks to much like nigger? I have English a 2nd language, learned it some 30 years ago and I was very surprised that the spelling had changed... —This.

 * I don't think the spelling has changed much. In fact I thought the two words were different but similar words at first, until I checked the etymology for confirmation. I've seen people use "snickering", but not "snicker" unless the brand name "Snickers" counts as the word. And this might be a reason why "snicker" is now being used more often in the US (if snigger was even the most used in the past compared to snicker). And btw, I first encountered "snigger" through Harry Potter, which is British, so this agrees with the etymology for that word. OjdvQ9fNJWl (talk) 01:09, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:snigger


text:
miseror

Etymology
See.

Verb

 * 1) to lament, bewail or deplore
 * 2) to have pity or mercy, feel sorry for

title: miseror


text: miseraris

title: miseraris


text: miseratur

title: miseratur


text: miseramur

title: miseramur


text: miseramini

title: miseramini


text: miserantur

title: miserantur


text: miserabor

title: miserabor


text: miseraberis

title: miseraberis


text: miserabitur

title: miserabitur


text: miserabimur

title: miserabimur


text: miserabimini

title: miserabimini


text: miserabuntur

title: miserabuntur


text: miserabar

title: miserabar


text: miserabaris

title: miserabaris


text: miserabatur

title: miserabatur


text: miserabamur

title: miserabamur


text: miserabamini

title: miserabamini


text: miserabantur

title: miserabantur


text: miserer

title: miserer


text: misereris

title: misereris


text:
possessorship

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) The state of possessing something, possession.

title: possessorship


text: miseretur

title: miseretur


text: miseremur

title: miseremur


text: miseremini

title: miseremini


text: miserentur

title: miserentur


text: miserarer

title: miserarer


text: miserareris

title: miserareris


text: miseraretur

title: miseraretur


text: miseraremur

title: miseraremur


text: miseraremini

title: miseraremini


text: miserarentur

title: miserarentur


text: miserare

title: miserare


text:
miserator

Etymology 1
From.

Noun

 * 1) one who pities, commiserator

title: miserator


text: miserantor

title: miserantor


text: miserari

title: miserari


text:
misereo

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to lament, bewail or deplore
 * 2) to pity or feel sorry for

title: misereo


text: miseres

title: miseres


text: miseremus

title: miseremus


text: miseretis

title: miseretis


text: miserent

title: miserent


text: miserebo

title: miserebo


text: miserebis

title: miserebis


text: miserebit

title: miserebit


text: miserebimus

title: miserebimus


text: miserebitis

title: miserebitis


text: miserebunt

title: miserebunt


text: miserebam

title: miserebam


text: miserebas

title: miserebas


text: miserebat

title: miserebat


text: miserebamus

title: miserebamus


text: miserebatis

title: miserebatis


text: miserebant

title: miserebant


text: miserui

title: miserui


text: miseruisti

title: miseruisti


text: miseruit

title: miseruit


text: miseruimus

title: miseruimus


text: miseruistis

title: miseruistis


text: miseruerunt

title: miseruerunt


text: miseruero

title: miseruero


text: miserueris

title: miserueris


text: miseruerit

title: miseruerit


text: miseruerimus

title: miseruerimus


text: miserueritis

title: miserueritis


text: miseruerint

title: miseruerint


text: miserueram

title: miserueram


text: miserueras

title: miserueras


text: miseruerat

title: miseruerat


text: miserueramus

title: miserueramus


text: miserueratis

title: miserueratis


text: miseruerant

title: miseruerant


text:
misereor

Verb

 * 1) to feel pity, to pity
 * 2) to have compassion, feel compassionate
 * 3) to commiserate

title: misereor


text: miserebor

title: miserebor


text: misereberis

title: misereberis


text: miserebitur

title: miserebitur


text: miserebimur

title: miserebimur


text: miserebimini

title: miserebimini


text: miserebuntur

title: miserebuntur


text: miserebar

title: miserebar


text: miserebaris

title: miserebaris


text: miserebatur

title: miserebatur


text: miserebamur

title: miserebamur


text: miserebamini

title: miserebamini


text: miserebantur

title: miserebantur


text: miseream

title: miseream


text: misereas

title: misereas


text: misereat

title: misereat


text: misereamus

title: misereamus


text: misereatis

title: misereatis


text: misereant

title: misereant


text: misererem

title: misererem


text: misereres

title: misereres


text: misereret

title: misereret


text: misereremus

title: misereremus


text: misereretis

title: misereretis


text: misererent

title: misererent


text: miseruerim

title: miseruerim


text: miseruissem

title: miseruissem


text: miseruisses

title: miseruisses


text: miseruisset

title: miseruisset


text: miseruissemus

title: miseruissemus


text: miseruissetis

title: miseruissetis


text: miseruissent

title: miseruissent


text: miserear

title: miserear


text: miserearis

title: miserearis


text:
misereatur

Noun

 * 1)  The first part of the absolution service in the Roman Catholic liturgy, beginning "Misereatur vestri omnipotens Deus" (may almighty God have mercy on you).

title: misereatur


text: misereamur

title: misereamur


text: misereamini

title: misereamini


text: misereantur

title: misereantur


text: misererer

title: misererer


text: miserereris

title: miserereris


text: misereretur

title: misereretur


text: misereremur

title: misereremur


text: misereremini

title: misereremini


text: misererentur

title: misererentur


text: misereto

title: misereto


text: miserete

title: miserete


text: miseretote

title: miseretote


text: miserento

title: miserento


text: miseretor

title: miseretor


text: miserentor

title: miserentor


text: miseruisse

title: miseruisse


text: misereri

title: misereri


text:
miseritus

Etymology
Perfect passive participle of.

Participle

 * 1) lamented, deplored
 * 2) pitied

title: miseritus


text:
patriarcha

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1)  patriarch (all senses)

Noun

 * 1) patriarch

title: patriarcha


text: patriarchae

title: patriarchae


text: patriarcharum

title: patriarcharum


text: patriarchis

title: patriarchis


text: patriarcham

title: patriarcham


text: patriarchas

title: patriarchas


text:
vervaldatum

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) due date (of payment)
 * 2) best before date

title: vervaldatum


text: peccatores

title: peccatores


text: peccatoris

title: peccatoris


text: peccatoribus

title: peccatoribus


text: peccatorem

title: peccatorem


text:
placat

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  announcement, poster

title: placat


text: placamus

title: placamus


text: placatis

title: placatis


text: placant

title: placant


text: placabo

title: placabo


text: placabis

title: placabis


text: placabit

title: placabit


text: placabimus

title: placabimus


text: placabitis

title: placabitis


text: placabunt

title: placabunt


text: placabam

title: placabam


text: placabas

title: placabas


text: placabat

title: placabat


text: placabamus

title: placabamus


text: placabatis

title: placabatis


text: placabant

title: placabant


text: placavisti

title: placavisti


text: placavit

title: placavit


text: placavimus

title: placavimus


text: placavistis

title: placavistis


text: placaverunt

title: placaverunt


text: placavero

title: placavero


text: placaveris

title: placaveris


text: placaverit

title: placaverit


text: placaverimus

title: placaverimus


text: placaveritis

title: placaveritis


text: placaverint

title: placaverint


text: placaveram

title: placaveram


text: placaveras

title: placaveras


text: placaverat

title: placaverat


text: placaveramus

title: placaveramus


text: placaveratis

title: placaveratis


text: placaverant

title: placaverant


text: placor

title: placor


text: placaris

title: placaris


text: placatur

title: placatur


text: placamur

title: placamur


text: placamini

title: placamini


text: placantur

title: placantur


text: placabor

title: placabor


text: placaberis

title: placaberis


text: placabitur

title: placabitur


text: placabimur

title: placabimur


text: placabimini

title: placabimini


text: placabuntur

title: placabuntur


text: placabar

title: placabar


text: placabaris

title: placabaris


text: placabatur

title: placabatur


text: placabamur

title: placabamur


text: placabamini

title: placabamini


text: placabantur

title: placabantur


text: placem

title: placem


text: placarem

title: placarem


text: placares

title: placares


text: placaret

title: placaret


text: placaremus

title: placaremus


text: placaretis

title: placaretis


text: placarent

title: placarent


text: placaverim

title: placaverim


text: placavissem

title: placavissem


text: placavisses

title: placavisses


text: placavisset

title: placavisset


text: placavissemus

title: placavissemus


text: placavissetis

title: placavissetis


text: placavissent

title: placavissent


text: placeris

title: placeris


text: placetur

title: placetur


text: placemur

title: placemur


text: placemini

title: placemini


text: placentur

title: placentur


text: placarer

title: placarer


text: placareris

title: placareris


text: placaretur

title: placaretur


text: placaremur

title: placaremur


text: placaremini

title: placaremini


text: placarentur

title: placarentur


text: placatote

title: placatote


text: placanto

title: placanto


text: placator

title: placator


text: placantor

title: placantor


text: placavisse

title: placavisse


text: placari

title: placari


text:
video DVD

Noun

 * 1) A DVD containing video in DVD-Video format

title: video DVD


text:
audio DVD

Noun

 * 1) A DVD containing audio in DVD-Audio format

title: audio DVD


text: shealing

title: shealing


text:
deshaitier

Verb

 * 1) to discourage
 * 2) to render (someone) hopeless

title: deshaitier


text:
acesmé

Adjective

 * 1) decorated; adorned
 * 2)  beautiful; pretty
 * 3) equipped; tooled

title: acesmé


text: proficis

title: proficis


text: proficit

title: proficit


text: proficimus

title: proficimus


text: proficitis

title: proficitis


text: proficiunt

title: proficiunt


text: proficiam

title: proficiam


text: proficies

title: proficies


text: proficiet

title: proficiet


text: proficiemus

title: proficiemus


text: proficietis

title: proficietis


text: proficiebam

title: proficiebam


text: proficiebas

title: proficiebas


text: proficiebat

title: proficiebat


text: proficiebamus

title: proficiebamus


text: proficiebatis

title: proficiebatis


text: proficiebant

title: proficiebant


text: profeci

title: profeci


text:
acesmer

Verb

 * 1) to decorate; to adorn
 * 2) to equip; to tool

title: acesmer


text: profecisti

title: profecisti


text: profecit

title: profecit


text: profecimus

title: profecimus


text: profecistis

title: profecistis


text: profecerunt

title: profecerunt


text: profecero

title: profecero


text: profeceris

title: profeceris


text: profecerit

title: profecerit


text: profecerimus

title: profecerimus


text: profeceritis

title: profeceritis


text: profecerint

title: profecerint


text: profeceram

title: profeceram


text: profeceras

title: profeceras


text: profecerat

title: profecerat


text: profeceramus

title: profeceramus


text: profeceratis

title: profeceratis


text: profecerant

title: profecerant


text: proficias

title: proficias


text:
proficiat

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Interjection

 * 1) congratulations!

title: proficiat


text: proficiamus

title: proficiamus


text: proficiatis

title: proficiatis


text: proficiant

title: proficiant


text: proficerem

title: proficerem


text: proficeres

title: proficeres


text: proficeret

title: proficeret


text: proficeremus

title: proficeremus


text: proficeretis

title: proficeretis


text: proficerent

title: proficerent


text: profecerim

title: profecerim


text: profecissem

title: profecissem


text: profecisses

title: profecisses


text: profecisset

title: profecisset


text: profecissemus

title: profecissemus


text: profecissetis

title: profecissetis


text: profecissent

title: profecissent


text: proficiar

title: proficiar


text: proficiaris

title: proficiaris


text: proficiatur

title: proficiatur


text: proficiamur

title: proficiamur


text:
chenole

Noun

 * 1) trachea; windpipe

title: chenole


text: proficiamini

title: proficiamini


text: proficiantur

title: proficiantur


text: proficerer

title: proficerer


text: proficereris

title: proficereris


text: proficeretur

title: proficeretur


text: proficeremur

title: proficeremur


text: proficeremini

title: proficeremini


text: proficerentur

title: proficerentur


text: profice

title: profice


text: proficito

title: proficito


text: proficite

title: proficite


text: proficitote

title: proficitote


text: proficiunto

title: proficiunto


text: proficitor

title: proficitor


text: proficiuntor

title: proficiuntor


text: profecisse

title: profecisse


text: profici

title: profici


text: profectum

title: profectum


text:
huimés

Adverb

 * 1) now
 * 2) from now on

title: huimés


text:
preces

Noun

 * 1)  The alternate responsive petitions, as the versicles and suffrages, between the clergyman and the congregation in liturgical worship.

title: preces


text: precibus

title: precibus


text: precem

title: precem


text:
faiture

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) action; act
 * 2) method; way; manner
 * 3) form; characteristic(s)

title: faiture


text: protectiones

title: protectiones


text: protectionis

title: protectionis


text: protectionum

title: protectionum


text: protectioni

title: protectioni


text: protectionibus

title: protectionibus


text: protectionem

title: protectionem


text: protectione

title: protectione


text:
Carchemish

Translations

 * Arabic: كركميش
 * Czech: Karchemiš
 * Egyptian:
 * German: Karkemiš, Karchemisch
 * Russian: Кархемиш

title: Carchemish


text:
psalmus

Etymology
.

Descendants

 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
 * Salentine:
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title: psalmus


text: psalmorum

title: psalmorum


text: psalmis

title: psalmis


text: psalmum

title: psalmum


text: psalmos

title: psalmos


text: psalme

title: psalme


text:
redemptor

Etymology
From, , from , from.

Noun

 * 1) One who redeems.

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) contractor, undertaker, purveyor, farmer
 * 2) redeemer (one who pays another's debt)
 * 3) The Redeemer

title: redemptor


text: redemptores

title: redemptores


text: redemptoris

title: redemptoris


text: redemptorum

title: redemptorum


text: redemptori

title: redemptori


text: redemptoribus

title: redemptoribus


text: redemptorem

title: redemptorem


text: redemptore

title: redemptore


text:
conversion rate

Noun

 * 1)  The proportion of visitors to a website who take an action desired by the marketers, such as buying a product or subscribing to a newsletter.

Translations

 * Dutch: omzettingsgraad
 * Finnish: konversioaste
 * French:
 * Polish:

title: conversion rate


text: renes

title: renes


text: renum

title: renum


text: renibus

title: renibus


text: renem

title: renem


text:
resurrectio

Etymology
From,.

Noun

 * 1) resurrection
 * 2)  resurrection, the Resurrection, the resurrected

title: resurrectio


text: resurrectiones

title: resurrectiones


text: resurrectionis

title: resurrectionis


text: resurrectionum

title: resurrectionum


text: resurrectioni

title: resurrectioni


text: resurrectionibus

title: resurrectionibus


text: resurrectionem

title: resurrectionem


text: resurrectione

title: resurrectione


text: Category:ca:Biblical characters

title: Category:ca:Biblical characters


text: multoj

title: multoj


text:
retribuo

Verb

 * 1) to give back, return or repay (money)
 * 2) to recompense

title: retribuo


text: retribuis

title: retribuis


text:
retribuit

Etymology
Past participle of.

Adjective

 * 1) remunerated

title: retribuit


text: retribuimus

title: retribuimus


text: retribuitis

title: retribuitis


text: retribuunt

title: retribuunt


text: retribuam

title: retribuam


text: multon

title: multon


text: retribues

title: retribues


text: retribuet

title: retribuet


text: retribuemus

title: retribuemus


text: retribuetis

title: retribuetis


text: retribuent

title: retribuent


text: retribuebam

title: retribuebam


text: multojn

title: multojn


text: retribuebas

title: retribuebas


text: retribuebat

title: retribuebat


text: retribuebamus

title: retribuebamus


text: retribuebatis

title: retribuebatis


text: retribuebant

title: retribuebant


text:
retribui

Etymology
, from.

Verb

 * 1) to retribute

title: retribui


text: retribuistis

title: retribuistis


text: retribuerunt

title: retribuerunt


text: retribuero

title: retribuero


text: retribueris

title: retribueris


text: retribuerit

title: retribuerit


text: retribuerimus

title: retribuerimus


text: retribueritis

title: retribueritis


text: retribuerint

title: retribuerint


text: retribueram

title: retribueram


text: retribueras

title: retribueras


text: retribuerat

title: retribuerat


text: retribueramus

title: retribueramus


text: retribueratis

title: retribueratis


text: retribuerant

title: retribuerant


text: retribuor

title: retribuor


text: retribuitur

title: retribuitur


text: retribuimur

title: retribuimur


text: retribuimini

title: retribuimini


text: retribuuntur

title: retribuuntur


text: retribuar

title: retribuar


text: retribuetur

title: retribuetur


text: retribuemur

title: retribuemur


text: retribuemini

title: retribuemini


text: retribuentur

title: retribuentur


text: retribuebar

title: retribuebar


text: retribuebaris

title: retribuebaris


text: retribuebatur

title: retribuebatur


text: retribuebamur

title: retribuebamur


text: retribuebamini

title: retribuebamini


text: retribuebantur

title: retribuebantur


text: retribuas

title: retribuas


text: retribuat

title: retribuat


text: muzeon

title: muzeon


text: retribuamus

title: retribuamus


text: retribuatis

title: retribuatis


text: retribuant

title: retribuant


text: retribuerem

title: retribuerem


text: retribueres

title: retribueres


text: retribueret

title: retribueret


text: retribueremus

title: retribueremus


text: retribueretis

title: retribueretis


text: retribuerent

title: retribuerent


text: retribuerim

title: retribuerim


text: muziksintezatoroj

title: muziksintezatoroj


text: retribuissem

title: retribuissem


text: retribuisses

title: retribuisses


text: retribuisset

title: retribuisset


text: retribuissemus

title: retribuissemus


text: retribuissetis

title: retribuissetis


text: retribuissent

title: retribuissent


text: retribuaris

title: retribuaris


text: retribuatur

title: retribuatur


text: retribuamur

title: retribuamur


text: retribuamini

title: retribuamini


text: retribuantur

title: retribuantur


text: retribuerer

title: retribuerer


text: retribuereris

title: retribuereris


text: retribueretur

title: retribueretur


text: muzeojn

title: muzeojn


text: retribueremur

title: retribueremur


text: retribueremini

title: retribueremini


text: retribuerentur

title: retribuerentur


text: muziksintezatorojn

title: muziksintezatorojn


text: retribue

title: retribue


text: muziksintezatoron

title: muziksintezatoron


text: retribuitote

title: retribuitote


text: retribuunto

title: retribuunto


text: retribuere

title: retribuere


text: retribuitor

title: retribuitor


text: retribuuntor

title: retribuuntor


text:
retrorsum

Etymology
Contraction of (archaic form of, ).

Adverb

 * 1) backwards
 * 2) in reverse order

title: retrorsum


text: najbarecon

title: najbarecon


text:
scand

Etymology 1
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) shame, disgrace

Etymology 2
From, from , , from.

Noun

 * 1) a disgraceful person: disgrace, embarrassment

title: scand


text:
Isus Cristos

Proper noun

 * 1) Jesus Christ

title: Isus Cristos


text:
Talk:Eurovision Song Contest

Eurovision Song Contest
A specific television programme. Equinox ◑ 17:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Delete or WP. DCDuring TALK  18:45, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Just delete. We don't want "only in" for every WP title, and I don't see that more people will look here for this than for any other. (Unless, of course, this can be attested per the band- brand- name criterion. I can't imagine it will be, which is why I'm saying to delete rather than to send this to RFV as I have for other nominations for deletion.) —msh210℠ (talk) 18:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC) 18:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

 * "The band-name criterion". What a scary thought. Equinox ◑ 18:54, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Typo fixed. —msh210℠ (talk) 18:57, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Delete per Paulie. --Vahagn Petrosyan 20:46, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete but we have some similar entries like Red Nose Day. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, as its meaning is plainly obvious from the component words.--Dmol 23:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

 * deleted --Volants 21:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:Eurovision Song Contest


text:
Talk:Twofish

Twofish
"# An encryption algorithm used in modern cryptographic software." --Volants 18:37, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * But why do you think it should be deleted.--Dmol 22:24, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's like a brand name. Equinox ◑ 23:43, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not a brand name. It's only the name given to that algorithm.--Dmol 01:09, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Why is Twofish capitalised and quicksort not? Equinox ◑ 02:27, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
 * No idea why, but encryption algorithms are normally capitalised. Some because they are initialisms such as DES or RSA so I'll ignore them in the argument, but Serpent, Cast, Blowfish, Twofish, etc, are always caps.--Dmol 23:36, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Intention seems to counter use so struck unless I'm mistaken in that assumption. DAVilla 06:32, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:Twofish


text:
ज्यौ

Etymology
Borrowed from. .

Noun

 * 1) the planet Jupiter

title: ज्यौ


text:
Talk:the show

the show
baseball: major leagues. I suggest a move to show --Volants 16:29, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Move per nom. DCDuring TALK 17:02, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Never heard of it. Is it not just a figurative use of show (any entertaining event?). Mglovesfun (talk) 17:12, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * We have a proliferation of sports/games/entertainment senses for many words. If I don't know or like the entertainment, I often don't like the word. This is US sports informal for the major leagues of any sport, usually, baseball or hockey, but possibly applicable to other sports with a similar organizational structure. Synonym: "the bigs" or "bigs". I don't think the term is applicable to smaller sports such as lingerie football yet. (see Lingerie Football League. DCDuring TALK 18:57, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Better yet, see Google Images. Mglovesfun (talk) 07:41, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

I was ready to move, but what about the anagram? DAVilla 06:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * That's letting the tail wag the dog. DCDuring TALK 14:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, just making sure. I've kept “the show” (linked separately) as an anagram to showeth however. Redirected. DAVilla 05:55, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:the show


text:
Talk:show

with a show of doing sth
Collins Concise English Dictionary reads MAKE: (intr; followed by to, as if to, or as though to) to act with the intention or with a show of doing something: they made to go out, he made as if to hit herhttps://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/make is the meaning of show in with a show of doing sth already added? --Backinstadiums (talk) 12:41, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

In the passive voice 'shown' is mandatory
In the passive voice shown is mandatory --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:21, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:show


text:
Talk:call on

call on
Rfd-sense:
 * 1)  In a classroom, to select a student.

Is redundant to

 * 1)  To request or ask of somebody; to select for a task.

They don't look the same, but I think they are. If you 'call on' a student, it's always going to be for them to do something isn't it? Plus surely it doesn't have to be a student. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:37, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Keep. In sense 1, a teacher can "call on" a student who has his/her hand up, thereby giving said student permission to ask a question; but I don't think that fits at all with sense 2. (I'm not sure how well-defined the distinction is between the two senses — there definitely seems to be overlap — but I really don't think a single def could cover both.) —Ruakh TALK 22:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I'd be really suprised if the sense is as narrow as "In a classroom, to select a student". So it has to be a student, not only that, but in a classroom. Can I not call at someone at work, or call on someone in a classroom that's not a student? Or call on a student but outside the classroom. Granted, classroom is a meronym for "educational setting", but there is that ambiguity. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

 * You're right that there are some other situations where this sense of "call on" is applicable — for example, a person holding a press conference chooses which reporter to "call on", allowing said reporter to ask his or her question (see e.g. this b.g.c. hit, found via a search for "called on the reporter") — but I think you're wrong that this sense is redundant with the "request" sense, given that it's just as often a matter of giving permission as of making a request. (I wonder if there's a U.S./U.K. difference here?) —Ruakh TALK 19:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good, Ruakh. Keep. — msh210 ℠ 19:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Delete I agree with nom's assessment. < class="latinx">Ƿidsiþ 12:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The newly added sense doesn't seem to be a phrasal verb. I think there are many adverbials that can fill the "on it" slot, even when clauses, but most especially prepositional phrases headed by "on", "about", "concerning", "re", "over".

There seem to be distinguishable senses:
 * 1) calling on someone to do something (which seems to be what we have) and
 * 2) calling on something (in the sense of drawing down a resource, possibly a personal resource)

The challenged sense does not seem to require an infinitive, in contrast to 1 and 3 which do seem to. It seems a stretch to deem sense 2 an elliptical version of one of the others. I don't think too much can be made of a student or audience member having raised their hand or not. In classrooms and certain types someone at the front of the room may have the power to ask a question of an individual. The common element seems to be the ability of someone in the front to invite an individual in the audience to speak. DCDuring TALK 00:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

 * And isn't there a sense of "call on" that means initiate (?) courting. I think it might lead to "keeping company with", which in turn might lead to dancing. DCDuring TALK 00:32, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't think any of the senses requires an infinitive. Sense #3 ("to request ") seems to require, or almost require, an additional complement besides the person called on; that complement is usually either an infinitive or a for-phrase indicating what is being requested, but sometimes it's some other random adverbial. (I've added a citation of each type — infinitive, for, and other; please take a look.) —Ruakh TALK 01:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Kept for no consensus.--Jusjih 02:15, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

call upon
call upon reads "Alternative form of call on (certain senses)". JMGN (talk) 16:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

title: Talk:call on


text:
केन्द्र

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) centre of a circle
 * 2) argument of a circle
 * 3) distance of the first point in a planet's orbit to the fourth, seventh, or tenth point (, etc.)
 * 4) first, fourth, seventh, or tenth lunar mansion

title: केन्द्र


text:
जामित्र

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) seventh lunar mansion

title: जामित्र


text:
Talk:se regarder

se regarder
Sum of parts, +. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete —Internoob (Disc.•Cont.) 23:17, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I think it would be a mistake to delete that entry. Because there are two meanings that are idomatic:
 * 1. se regarder can be translated by to face each other, for instance in the expression deux murs qui se regardent : two walls facing each other.
 * 2. We musn't forget that the reflexive forms can stand, in French, for the passive forms. That way, se regarder would be translated by to be looked at; e.g. : la mort ne peut se regarder en face -- Death cannot be faced up to (literaly "cannot be looked in the face"...)
 * So : keep.
 * --Actarus (Prince d'Euphor) 20:07, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Kept, no consensus. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:09, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

RFD discussion: May–June 2021
French: Was nominated 11 years ago and passed. Still just se + regarder Indian subcontinent (talk) 15:39, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. If it does have an idiomatic meaning, as asserted in the RFD 11 years ago, it should be added to with the label fr. —Mahāgaja · talk 15:41, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note. With a plural subject this can also be used reciprocally: “to look at each other ”, as in the idiomatic expression (literally, “to look at each other like ceramic dogs”).  --Lambiam 08:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. I have added a sense “to face” to, making the “idiomatic” examples in the earlier RfD discussion also sums of parts. (That the referent of can be the subject of a following infinitive but not that of the finite verb of the main clause is a general property of French grammar – see the example Il est normal de se parler in the usage notes there; it has no bearing on the idiomaticity of the specific combination se regarder.)  --Lambiam 09:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Imetsia (talk) 15:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. PUC – 20:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * RFD-deleted. Imetsia (talk) 19:30, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:se regarder


text:
dialogar

Etymology
From. .

Verb

 * 1) to dialogue

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to dialogue; to discuss to participate in a conversation

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to talk, discuss
 * 2) to dialogue

title: dialogar


text: dialogane

title: dialogane


text:
Talk:sich vergrößern

sich vergrößern
See s'écouler above. Should be under vergrößern with a template. -- Prince Kassad 20:57, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Just on the same topic, I have been creating Dutch reflexive verbs in separate entries (such as zich vergissen). Zich, of course, is cognate with the German sich. Are there any written guidelines on how to treat reflexive verbs? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 06:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Anything at WT:ANL? It seems to be a 'per language' thing. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:56, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * vergrößern already has this definition, so we can safely delete or redirect this - I can't see it being created in another language, so the redirect seems safe. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * deleted -- Prince Kassad 09:34, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:sich vergrößern


text:
Talk:aerial photography

aerial photography
Just found this while deleting aerial photograph. It has a Wikipedia article, but so does George W. Bush. Mglovesfun (talk) 08:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * weak keep. One might assume this means "a photograph taken of the sky" --Rising Sun talk? contributions 11:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I am not commenting on whether to keep this entry. I had never heard of this term and my first reaction when I saw it was photographs taken of objects in the sky. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 01:16, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Just because someone has never heard of a term is not justification to delete it. This term has been around for more years than I care to count. It was a subject that I studied in getting my BS in Film and Television/Still Photography. The act of aerial photography has been around as long as there were airplanes, rockets, hot-air or lighter than air gas ballons and the still camera. Please do not remove something that has been instrumental in fighting battles to preserve world peace as well as documenting such simple things as corn mazes and crop circles. Ignorance is not the way to make these decisions. 71.217.173.21 07:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)lmullette
 * Heh. If anything, Jamesjiao's comment goes to keeping this entry, not deleting it: he said he couldn't make out what the term meant from its parts; see also [[WT:CFI]]. In any event, we don't much care about how important a word's referent is: as Mglovesfun notes, George W. Bush is important, but we don't have an entry on his full name. —msh210℠ 17:45, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Kept. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per Rising Sun, Jamesjiao's comment. bd2412 T 19:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:aerial photography


text:
Category:Letters by language

See also Category:Numerals by language

title: Category:Letters by language


text:
Mannea

Proper noun

 * 1)  ancient region south-east of lake Urmia

Translations

 * Armenian: Մանա
 * Russian:

title: Mannea


text:
Talk:for fun

for fun
I'm seeing for + fun. See also above (or Talk:just for fun when it's been archived). Mglovesfun (talk) 16:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Strong delete as per nom. Easy SoP. Facts707 10:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I think "for fun" also means "for no good reason", especially when applied to actions that have negative aspects from the speaker's PoV (difficulty, criminality, cruelty, etc). Also, three OneLook lemmings have this as an idiom in a run-in at "fun": RHU, Cambridge, AHD Idioms. Also McGraw-Hill. All of them have this as meaning the same as in fun. All of them have more literal-seeming definitions than fit my reading, however. DCDuring TALK 11:16, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you want for yuks, for laughs, for giggles, for grins and giggles, etc.? I've heard these many times too but they are blatantly obvious as is for fun. What the writer considers "fun" is up to him to explain. If he thinks cruelty or difficulty is fun, then that will have to become clear from the context because there is no way to infer that from simply the term for fun. Facts707 09:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * A: Why did you put the hamster in the microwave oven? B: I did it for fun. or I thought it would be fun. or It made me smile. or It was just in fun. Facts707 09:20, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, Facts. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Lemmings

 * DCDuring TALK

for fun
Deleted per previous RFD. I'd like to restore/undelete this. It seems sufficiently idiomatic, it's found in several other dictionaries, and it would be useful for hosting translations. See also /  (which I've created, admittedly), Talk:for kicks. Canonicalization (talk) 16:28, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

 * From a translation viewpoint I can see that this is valuable. It is a unit. Doing something "for fun". So at the very least it should be in phrasebook. Regarding the entry I will boringly abstain. Equinox ◑ 10:46, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

 * I note it is included in the OED: for fun (or for the fun of it) - in order to amuse oneself and not for any more serious purpose: I paint a bit for fun. Let's keep it. ---> Tooironic (talk) 03:18, 6 November 2019 (UTC)
 * A keep for me. --Vealhurl (talk) 21:39, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Undelete (=Keep) per WT:LEMMING: M-W, Lexico. As for translations and WT:THUB, none were mentioned so I can't tell; some uses would be translated into Czech as pro zábavu, other uses probably as z legrace, none of which is terribly supportive of WT:THUB. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:11, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Undelete Purplebackpack89 12:00, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Undelete. Come back from the dead, oh beautiful collocation. - Dentonius (talk) 12:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

 * Undeleted. - -sche (discuss) 07:15, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

in fun
for/in fun --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:for fun


text:
Talk:shoot on sight

shoot on sight
to shoot + on sight. NISoP. DCDuring TALK 03:31, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, No meaning of either shoot or on sight will cover the second definition. It's totally idiomatic.--Dmol 03:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It's just a figurative use of "shoot". We're trying to lexicalize everyday poetry. "I wanted to shoot him" is an everyday kind of expression, at least where there is a right to bear arms. DCDuring TALK 10:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I've added the appropriate sense of on sight. —msh210℠ 16:17, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Figurative rather than idiomatic. Delete. 91.105.54.107 09:53, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
 * There is still not any meaning of shoot that conveys the meaning of to dismiss or ignore.--Dmol 00:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
 * But... are you saying it doesn't exist? I quite fancy trying to cite "shoot" in this sense, assuming it wouldn't be redundant to something else. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:02, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

No relevant citations. Delete. —Michael Z. 2010-06-03 19:34 z

Did anyone mention this could be used literally? With the right definitions, seems SOP. I would weak delete but I want to see the proof at shoot per Dmol. DAVilla 11:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Deleted. I've added a sense to [[shoot]]. —msh210℠ (talk) 17:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:shoot on sight


text: billettar

title: billettar


text: billettane

title: billettane


text: konjakken

title: konjakken


text: konjakkar

title: konjakkar


text: konjakkane

title: konjakkane


text:
Talk:楚文王

楚文王
King Wen of Chu (ruled Chu between 689 BCE - 675 BCE). We don't include the names of people - that's Wikipedia's job. Delete.
 * Delete or like for some sort of generic use - 'a King Wen of Chu'. But that won't happen, just delete it. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:58, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Deleted. —msh210℠ (talk) 17:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:楚文王


text:
User:Sano/kala

= natlangs =

Arabic

 * Arabic Grammar - arabic.desert-sky.net/
 * Arabic Roots - studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm
 * Arabic Roots - rickmor.x10.mx/arabic_morphology.html
 * Semetic roots - semiticroots.net/

Chinese

 * Chinese Grammar - resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Main_Page
 * Chinese Text Project - ctext.org/ens
 * CJK Dictionary - ubccjk.com/
 * COJAK - cojak.org/index.php
 * Common Hanzi - lingua.mtsu.edu/chinese-computing/statistics/
 * Hanzi Dictionary - handedict.de/en/chinesisch_deutsch.php
 * Hanzi Frequency - hanzidb.org/character-list/by-frequency
 * HSK Lists - wohok.com/index.php
 * Xiaoma Cidian - xiaoma.info/
 * Zhongwen - zhongwen.com/
 * Hanzi Radicals - chinese-tools.com/tools/sinograms.html

Farsi

 * Farsi Dictionary - dsal.uchicago.edu/dictionaries/steingass/

General

 * Grammar - indiana.edu/~hlw/Sentences/problems.html
 * Grammars - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Grammars_of_specific_languages
 * Sentences - tatoeba.org/eng/home
 * Universal Language Dictionary - uld3.org/uld27/index.html
 * Visual Dictionary - visual.merriam-webster.com/
 * Word Lists - enchantedlearning.com/wordlist/

Korean

 * Hanja Dictionary - hanjadic.bravender.us/
 * Korean Lessons - learnkorean.com/?page_id=647

Hungarian

 * Hungarian Grammar - hungarianreference.com/

Japanese

 * Japanese Dictionary - redfinchjapanese.com/
 * Japanese Grammar - ww8.tiki.ne.jp/~tmath/home/index.htm
 * Japanese Grammar - pomax.github.io/nrGrammar/
 * Japanese Grammar - japaneseprofessor.com/
 * Japanese Lessons - learn-japanese.info/
 * Romaji Dictionary - romajidesu.com/
 * Tangorin Japanese - tangorin.com/

Native American

 * Aulex - aulex.org/
 * Cherokee grammar - culturev.com/cherokee/vcherokee.html
 * Lakota - unilang.org/course.php?res=506
 * Mayan Dictionary - research.famsi.org/mdp/mdp_index.php
 * Nahuatl Dictionary - whp.uoregon.edu/dictionaries/nahuatl/
 * Native American Langs - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Native_American_language_revitalization
 * Quechua - quechua.org.uk/
 * Uto Aztec - www-01.sil.org/acpub/repository/21478.pdf
 * Yucatec Grammar - mahimahi.uchicago.edu/drupal/digitalmaya/

Romance

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Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2010-10/Disallowing certain appendices

Disallowing certain appendices

 * Voting on: Page splitting for appendices that are currently specified in [[Wiktionary:Criteria for inclusion]] as follows:"Terms originating in fictional universes which have three citations in separate works, but which do not have three citations which are independent of reference to that universe may be included only in appendices of words from that universe, and not in the main dictionary space."Specific new proposals are below, under the individual options' respective headings.
 * (Note: This vote, "Disallowing certain appendices", is misnamed, but shall remain with that name to avoid the confusion that may arise from moving it.)
 * Each voter may vote for any (one, two, or all) of the three options. (Signing under "Abstain" is the same as not voting at all.) Whichever option gets the greatest number of votes wins, with the caveat that that option must have a supermajority (something like 70% of non-abstaining voters, though as usual this is left to the closer's discretion).
 * Vote starts: 00:01, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23.59, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Vote created: —msh210℠ (talk) 18:08, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Discussion:
 * Beer parlour archive/2008/January
 * Votes/pl-2008-01/Appendices for fictional terms
 * Beer parlour archive/2010/September
 * Beer parlour
 * Beer parlour
 * Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2010-10/Disallowing certain appendices

One page per universe, split as needed
An appendix for such terms (terms originating in fictional universes which have three citations in separate works, but which do not have three citations which are independent of reference to that universe) shall be one page per universe (or more if needed to split long lists into parts of lists), with a list or table of terms and information about those terms; no term on such a page shall have a mainspace-entry-like structure.

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support — lexicógrafa | háblame — 01:36, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Because having a seperate entry-like page for each word is basically the same as including it in the main namespace as a word
 * How is this a problem? --Yair rand (talk) 01:43, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I disagree with Lexicografía. Having a separate page for a fictional word, and including said fictional word in the main namespace, are different things. --Daniel. 02:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't the reason they are in an appendix, because they're not (for whatever reason) worthy of a real dictionary entry? (P.S. Whatever happens to this vote will also be implemented at Appendix:Snowclones, which has a one-page-per-term format right now) — lexicógrafa | háblame — 11:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Appendix:Marvel Comics/mutant, for instance, is a dictionary entry, and worthy of the most user-friendly and most widely accepted entry layout that has been developed over years. Do you have any reason (aside from "for whatever reason"), to say otherwise?
 * I don't think that Appendix:Snowclones (and Appendix:Unsupported titles, Appendix:Proto-Germanic *sunuz, Appendix:APL and Appendix:Klingon, for that matter) is necessarily going to imitate a practice decided here. While consistency is generally good, this comparison merits further discussion. --Daniel. 22:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support  I think the complexity of our treatment of these terms should match their linguistic value. Their non-independence from their fictional universe suggests a low linguistic value. --Bequw → τ 22:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * (I'm starting to think that some people are forgetting that Wiktionary isn't paper...) --Yair rand (talk) 02:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, for instance, Category:Fictional derivations suggests a considerable linguistic value of fictional words, by listing words that derive from fiction but are used in nonfictional contexts. --Daniel. 21:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support A  fictional term that doesn't meet the CFI does not deserve a separate page. --Makaokalani 15:20, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps my definition of "doesn't meet the CFI" is a little more precise than yours; fictional words do meet the CFI, if they got enough citations, then they should be included into appendices. Anyway, can you please elaborate why shouldn't they imitate the format of entries? As of yet, I personally haven't seen a feasible and visually scannable system of placing etymologies, citations, pronunciations, usage notes and so on into lists. As I see them, there are: Appendix:Na'vi as one example of messy list; Appendix:Farscape as one example of clean list, with little information and avoiding the misleading alphabetical order in favor of organizing words by their usage; and, there is Appendix:Pokémon/Ditto as one example of page with considerable information besides one spelling and one definition. --Daniel. 21:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Equinox ◑ 23:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC) Agree with Makaokalani. Furthermore, I will support any more drastic vote that will curtail bullshit about "a 26-episode-long anime" polluting this otherwise-useful project. Equinox ◑ 23:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support per Makaokalani. I'm kind of curious what to do about works that have only a single unattested one such term (attested but not fully attested in independent universes). DAVilla 04:36, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * A work that has "a single unattested term" would not be defined on Wiktionary. The discussed appendices contain only fictional attested terms. If a work has only one attested term, that term would probably the title of the work, like defining "Romeo and Juliet" (or "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" and "Alice in Wonderland" as synonyms of each other). I have already brought the matter of defining titles up within one or more conversations, but I believe it may require to be discussed further. As standard practice, I have only kept some abbreviations like HP1 (the first book of Harry Potter); I have also kept Chobits and Star Trek, because they display multiple definitions; and the latter was defined on Wiktionary before I have started to work on fictional universes. --Daniel. 21:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I wasn't clear. I've edited the comment in my vote.
 * I believe titles of certain works to be part of the lexicon and worth including (if we could write the criteria narrowly), but I have found mixed support. There has been little objection to works with other definitions, like Moby-Dick, Cinderella and Snow White, but we have yet to see Beauty and the Beast, Hansel and Gretel, or Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. The Rise and Fall was voted for deletion because it can apparently refer to more than one work. Before that I don't think I've seen a term deleted for having more than one definition!
 * Why was Star Trek relegated to an Appendix!? The term is used exceedingly frequently outside of that universe. DAVilla 18:14, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How can you use "Star Trek" as you described? I read your sentence as a linguistic paradox. --Daniel. 19:09, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, interesting point. For now though can we please consider the name of the work a special case, where it should really read "otherwise independent of reference to that universe"? I would also be more than understanding if it were instead given treatment as a specific entity. DAVilla 03:43, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * WT:FICTION does not apply to names of works anyway, because they (usually) are not of fictional origin. --Daniel. 08:42, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support – appendices of fictional terms are fine (for now, lacking a better home), but one page per term is completely unnecessary. Yes, ’tionary is not paper, but collecting fictional terms is significantly different from a general dictionary, and has little significant overlap. If there is interest, a “Fictionary”/“Wikifictionary” for words from fiction is fine, but it absolutely should be a separate project – there are no meaningful synergies with Wiktionary. —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 19:34, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I find your apparent definition of a "general dictionary" interesting, despite I disagreeing with you here. Wiktionary is not like most other dictionaries that I know; it extends to various languages, writing systems and subjects (not counting unique electronic functions like recorded pronunciations and a plethora of lists of words by their lexical and topical characteristics). Since we have the contents expected from legal dictionaries, medical dictionaries, bilingual dictionaries and multiple other varieties, it seems natural to define words from fiction as well; especially since our criteria for inclusion of fiction is effectively identical from the rest of CFI: basically, fetch three independent citations that acknowledge that a word is fictional, then it may be included here. --Daniel. 21:28, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Mglovesfun (talk) 19:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support —Ruakh TALK 20:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 3) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support SemperBlotto 08:29, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 4) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support. —msh210℠ (talk) 07:16, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 5) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Dan Polansky 15:46, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 6) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support DCDuring TALK  17:06, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 7) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 10:21, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

One page per term
An appendix for such terms (terms originating in fictional universes which have three citations in separate works, but which do not have three citations which are independent of reference to that universe) shall have a separate page for each entry (either one page per language for each entry, or one page all together with sections for different languages), with the page looking essentially like a normal entry of the main namespace.

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Daniel. 00:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Despite being labelled as an "extreme" (in the title of the third choice "Some solution between those two extremes, or some other solution"), this proposal is worded in a way that fundamentally does not exclude the first choice ("One page per universe, split as needed"), so it is my vote. Both lists of words with definitions, and individual pages, are essential. We have Appendix:Farscape, Appendix:Elfen Lied, Appendix:Harry Potter, Appendix:Harry Potter spells and other user-friendly lists of words with definitions, in addition to Appendix:Marvel Comics/mutant, Appendix:Harry Potter/Muggle and other pages to contain additional information. --Daniel. 00:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * You get it wrong. One page per universe is incompatible with fifty pages per universe, one page for each term. This proposal does exclude the first choice. This proposal (second option) does exclude that there should be one page per universe, as what it proposes is that the number of pages per universe should be greater than one.
 * Put differently, the first option does forbid Appendix:Harry Potter/Muggle. --Dan Polansky 09:48, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * No. I have not focused the contrast between the specific quantities of pages per universe as described in the two proposals. I've rather mentioned their formats. The first option excludes individual pages, and the second option does not exclude lists of words with definitions. According to any possible result of the vote "Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2010-10/Disallowing certain appendices", if we may have simultaneously Appendix:Harry Potter/Killing Curse, Appendix:Harry Potter/Muggle-born and Appendix:Harry Potter/Killing Curse, then we also may link them together through an Appendix:Harry Potter. --Daniel. 10:06, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The second option states a policy that allows subpages per term; the first option disallows subpages per term. The statement "subpages per term are allowed" (option 2) is incompatible with the statement "subpages per term are disallowed" (option 1). But you wrote "this proposal is worded in a way that fundamentally does not exclude the first choice": that is false; allowing subpages excludes disallowing subpages. If you intended to say something else that is true, you would have to say the other thing. --Dan Polansky 11:07, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry if I have not been clear enough from my first message. However, the adverb fundamentally gave me the benefit of limiting the concept of the second option covering the first option. Then, I have further explained my thoughts with additional statements, such as "Both lists of words with definitions, and individual pages, are essential." and "The first option excludes individual pages, and the second option does not exclude lists of words with definitions.". --Daniel. 12:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * The qualifier "fundamentally" does not allow you to read things as you see fit, although it has a bit of a weakening power. The second option (allowing certain things) does not include the first option (disallowing certain things). The meaning of the first option is what it forbids. The only thing that is correct around what you have said is that all that is allowed by the first option is also allowed by the second option; the first option is strictly more probihitive than the second option. --Dan Polansky 12:20, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Once more I disagree with you. The meaning of the first option is not strictly "what it forbids". Its meaning is what is written as a whole text of 430 characters, including the implied permission to keep lists of fictional words.
 * If, alternatively, this vote were so simple as to only "forbid" or "allow" something, it could as well be worded as a simple statement like Allow ., followed by options to support it or oppose it. Instead, there is the current system with two wordy options, followed by another one for effectively opposing them, and a last, superfluous one to oppose everything, including the previous opposition. --Daniel. 22:29, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Some solution between those two extremes, or some other solution

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support Daniel. 00:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Here, I am basically repeating my vote above. --Daniel. 00:18, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|20px]] Support (other solution: no special CFI for these words. Keep it simple! In other terms: remove this sentence.) Lmaltier 18:10, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Oppose all

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose   Appendices about groups of words carrying linguistic meaning not permissible in the main namespace should require prior approval. -- Prince Kassad 00:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2008-01/Appendices for fictional terms]] approved them. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I was more thinking of something like Requests for appendices, where you would add the appendix you want to create, and others would vote whether to accept or not. -- Prince Kassad 22:54, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose, far too early to vote on this. --Yair rand (talk) 02:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
 * 2) [[Image:Symbol oppose vote.svg|20px]] Oppose, per Yair... 50 Xylophone Players talk 11:56, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1) [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain Equinox ◑ 00:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Don't care, as this vote isn't about what it was going to be about. Equinox ◑ 00:24, 4 November 2010 (UTC) Changed my mind! See above. Equinox ◑ 23:19, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * How so? —msh210℠ (talk) 05:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Symbol abstain vote.svg|20px]] Abstain. I think it is much too early to vote on this. This issue needs more discussion. (I'd rather vote "oppose all", but that doesn't seem to be an option.) --Yair rand (talk) 02:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * To me, the option "Some solution between those two extremes, or some other solution" seems very similar to a hypothetical "Oppose all". --Daniel. 03:02, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * What Daniel said. —msh210℠ (talk) 05:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have added an "oppose all" option. While the third option is similar to it, it is not identical; it uses particular wording such as "two extremes", and speaks of "some other solution". The option "oppose all" does not commit the voter to any wording but rather refuses all proposed wordings. A mere abstain does not capture the voter's preference to let all proposed policies fail. --Dan Polansky 07:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * As there are no other proposals on the table, I think "some other option" means simply "I oppose the above two". —msh210℠ (talk) 15:12, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Quite possibly. Nonetheless, I think it is a sound formal requirement that each vote should have an option explicitly entitled as "Oppose" or "Oppose all", as an unambiguous way to oppose the proposals made in the vote. What you may think self-evident about the meaning of the third option does not need to be self-evident to a voter who did not participate on the design of the vote, and have not read your mind. Maybe Yair rand just did not read the vote carefully enough; I don't know. But he should not have had to read carefully enough: there should have been an option clearly marked as "oppose". --Dan Polansky 17:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree. (Besides, there's a fundamental difference between voting against proposed options and voting for an unproposed option. Someone might vote against proposed options simply because they think there needs to be more discussion and/or experimentation before a decision is made. I suppose "some other solution" could be taken to include "solutions" such as "more discussion", but that's not the obvious reading.) —Ruakh TALK 20:30, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Decision
Winner: One page per universe, split as needed

Votes: 13-1-2-3 (68.4%-5.2%-10.5%-15.7%)

The first option got close enough to 70%, so I'm letting it pass. Since this proposal is of deprecating a practice without suggesting another to replace it, I'm very curious on how to convert the hundreds of appendices into a new format of "one page per universe". I'll be watching. --Daniel. 00:01, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Let us do the calculation correctly. The winning proposal passes, as it has gained 72% majority (=13 / 13 + 5). The winning proposal was supported by 13 people. The number of non-abstaining people who did not support the winning proposal is 5: Daniel, Lmaltier, Prince Kassad, Yair rand, Xylophone Players. --Dan Polansky 07:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * My calculation is correct; yours is an alternative that can be argued to be also correct. I counted votes, not people, and it did not affect the final decision. --Daniel. 07:54, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * You cannot count your vote two times only because you have cast your votes to two options. Your calculation is not an alternative; it is incorrect. It is quite a difference between the comfortable 72% and the barely passing 68%. Read the voting method: "...with the caveat that that option must have a supermajority (something like 70% of non-abstaining voters, though as usual this is left to the closer's discretion)." (italics mine) The supermajority is of voters, not of votes. --Dan Polansky 07:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * The criterion is "whichever option gets the greatest number of votes wins", not "whichever option gets the lowest number of nonvoters wins". Both 68% and 72% are comfortable to me. And the "closer's discretion" is mine. --Daniel. 08:03, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * But the caveat speaks of "voters", not "votes". It is the caveat that relates to the threshold of 2/3 or 70%. On another note, couting votes rather than voters does not make sense for a multi-option vote that uses approval voting, as then such a vote would be very liable to a failure (non-passing), and people would be given great opposing power just by casting votes to several options other than the one they want to see rejected. But again, the caveat speaks explicitly of "voters". You cannot selectively quote irrelevant passage and ignore the relevant passage that I have quoted for you. --Dan Polansky 08:11, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * I did not quote any irrelevant passage nor did I ignore your words. I suppose the common practice is creating a second vote of simply supporting or opposing the most voted proposal of a multi-option vote, to counter the "great opposing power just by casting votes to several options", which is unnecessary here because the winner was clearly chosen. --Daniel. 08:31, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * There has been some controversy on using approval voting in the past, and your last suggestion is exactly what we used to do. If you can imagine creating such a vote, then you will understand why the method that Dan Polansky outlined is the one that has come to be accepted. In such a vote for just "One page per universe, split as needed", assuming we have exactly the same decisions as we had here (those who did not abstain vote for the option only if they had voted for it here and otherwise presumably vote against), then the result would be 13 to 5. In other words, we can predict the result of a second simple support or oppose measure without actually running that vote, and the result of this vote is what we presume the result of that second measure to be.
 * Of course, there is a proviso in that the voting method has to allow enough flexibility to express one's true preference, and approval voting does allow that since each option can be supported or opposed. It's kind of like running all of these votes simultaneously without having to say explicitly that you oppose any of the options that you do not support. DAVilla 04:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

 * As Daniel. says, it doesn't affect the outcome of this vote; but for the record, Dan Polansky is correct. For example, if there are four options, and every voter approves of each option, then the tally is 100%–100%–100%–100%–0%, not 25%–25%–25%–25%–0%. —Ruakh TALK 22:42, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

 * A system with the possibility of resulting in the phenomenon of "if there are four options, and every voter approves of each option, then the tally is 100%–100%–100%–100%–0%, not 25%–25%–25%–25%–0%." may be correct according to a possible consensus, comparison with past votes, etc. However, it does not necessarily present a more "fair" or obvious choice: specifically, Dan mentioned how "people would be given great opposing power just by casting votes to several options other than the one they want to see rejected", which is an issue of both systems. There are more precise ways of achieving a decision from multiple options, such as the Schulze method (which is unnecessarily complex) or nondemocratic discussion. I mentioned previously how this page could naturally simply present a choice of supporting or opposing (or abstaining) the proposal of prohibiting mainspace-entry-like structure for certain appendices. --Daniel. 16:47, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 * It's "correct" not only in terms of possible consensus and comparison with past votes, but also because that's the way the vote is set up. It's an approval vote, modified to have a status quo bias, and the vote text explicitly speaks of "non-abstaining vote r s". Your "more precise ways" are a red herring: we could have used either of those methods, but obviously this vote was not structured in those ways. Period. (And I'd contest the claim that both of those methods are "more precise" than approval voting.) —Ruakh TALK 18:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

 * I already mentioned that this vote is not structured is any of my "more precise ways"; you don't have to repeat my statement. It is not necessarily "approval voting" either, because it is not written anywhere in the introduction (differently from Votes/pl-2010-06/Number vs. numeral), so you probably inferred its method by comparison with past votes, if anything. Anyway, your link points to an article from Wikipedia that describes approval votings while apparently agreeing with my method, by stating "Approval voting is a single-winner voting system used for elections. Each voter may vote for (approve of) as many of the candidates as they wish. The winner is the candidate receiving the most votes. Each voter may vote for any combination of candidates and may give each candidate at most one vote." --Daniel. 21:02, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * On second thought, the introduction of that article does not agree with my method, neither yours, because it does not include specific rules for the caveat. --Daniel. 21:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The instructions for this vote do say it uses approval voting, though not in so many words. Fwiw, Dan P. is correct. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)


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