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User talk:Sae1962

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Again, welcome! Mglovesfun (talk) 11:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Language names in translation tables
We use names (e.g. Italian) not templates (e.g. {it}) in translation tables. They are easier to put in alphabetical order. SemperBlotto 09:09, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Template:initialism
This template is listed as obsolete. Words should be split by part of speech. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can you rescind that template so that nobody uses it? Sae1962 12:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not easily, it's used a few thousands times! Mglovesfun (talk) 12:19, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * Not sure how many other editors would agree with me, but you don't need to have a capital letter for each word. I personally just find it distracting. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:33, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Capital headwords
Hi. The abbreviations should be at the correctly capitalised entry, i.e. SNAP not snap. I'll move them. Equinox ◑ 13:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I wonder how to create an identical entry in a non-case-sensitive environment. Whenever I searched for SNAP, I ended up with the entry for SNAP. Sae1962 13:17, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
 * One way is to edit the lower-case article and add at the top; this will create the red link to the other form. Equinox ◑ 16:41, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Redirections
WT:REDIR. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Which redirection of me is wrong? Sae1962 18:42, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Very Large Scale Integration
It seems to me that this, and all your other recent entries, should be decapitalised to very large scale integration. They are not always used with capital initials (eg at ). < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 07:36, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * You may be right, but I think that the capitalised form is better, indicating the capital letters. I used it all the time this way when I was involved in microchip development for years. To me, the whole set of words is a notion. For similar usages, please see Very Large Scale Integration, or What is Very Large Scale Integration (VLSI)?. But if you change my entries, I will not be angry with you. Sae1962 08:38, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Babel
You may use the template to list the languages you know. It's a much more clear and concise way to let others know what you know! Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 05:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Initialisms
Please don't bold or underline the first letters of initialisms. The main reason for this is we like to credit our readers with a shred of intelligence. --Mglovesfun (talk) 12:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. :-> Sae1962 13:08, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Please be careful about changing initialisms arbitrarily into nouns, and especially about assuming existence of a plural. "Not this group" is not a noun; it's more of an exclamation/interjection, but IMO the best possible thing for it is to stay as an initialism. No other part of speech seems to be useful; it is a phrase, not a word, and used as such. Equinox ◑ 17:36, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Interwikis
The plural of interwiki is interwikis. --Mglovesfun (talk) 09:40, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, please don't put, would you put ==English== as well? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:36, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, please don't put ==English== either. --Simplus2 13:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

graceful
Hi,

Please note that I have removed many of your Arabic translations. --Anatoli (обсудить) 07:11, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

German noun forms
Please include genders as well as to categorize. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:20, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Would you please give me a link to an example German word using this "noun form" extension of the head template? Thank you! Sae1962 09:28, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Instead of:

===Noun=== the word goes here

===Noun===
 * Mglovesfun (talk) 12:35, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

bs translation entries
If your knowledge of bosanski is zero, why do you add Bosnian language translations? E.g. this wasn't correct. As Translations suggests: don't rely on automatic translators. If you are interested in contributing and/or learning about Serbo-Croatian there is WT:ASH. It's not Wiktionary's official stand on sh as it isn't rock-solid, but it can come quite useful for starters. There's also Requested entries (Serbo-Croatian), which I tend to depopulate when given the chance. Cheers, --BiblbroX дискашн 15:40, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, it is not automatically translated but an entry in [www.dict.cc dict.cc] I thought is correct. They have strict rules when adding a new entry, but obviously not strict enough. The entries for other languages (English, German, Turkish, etc.) seem to be better. I will stop to add any Bosnian entries from other dictionaries. Sae1962 (talk) 17:22, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually, both translations could be used with similar meaning - but not similar enough since their original meaning is different. Also, I would suggest you not adding translations for any language you don't speak. You might encounter a more intolerant editor. ;-) --BiblbroX дискашн 11:00, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Translations
Translations are for English entries only. This is to avoid massive duplication. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:45, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. Sae1962 (talk) 19:08, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Please use "lang=" in templates
Failure use the "lang=" parameter in most generic templates used in non-English language sections causes the entry not to be properly categorized. Take a look at the changes made in some of your recent contributions. DCDuring TALK 15:53, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you please be more specific than in some of your recent contributions? Thank you! Sae1962 (talk) 08:22, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, . The reason for this is the template does not categorize unless there is a language parameter, and dozens of your entries are ending up in Special:UncategorizedPages. de is for German, tr is for Turkish. Any further questions? Mglovesfun (talk) 12:34, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I remembered this today again. I will check the uncategorized page to find out my wrong entries. (Actually, such errors could be corrected also by a bot, isn't it? A Turkish entry should always have the "lang=tr" addition, or?) Sae1962 (talk) 13:33, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Breaking things
Please do less of it, thanks! Mglovesfun (talk) 16:59, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Where, when? Sae1962 (talk) 18:48, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty much every edit you make. You're just not good at this, sorry. Not sure if your capable of improving either as you've got plenty of comments on this talk page and it hasn't worked. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Thread pool pattern
I can't see how this can be a proper noun. I also don't see why it should be capitalised. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:56, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Because only one thread pool pattern exists, I think that it is a proper noun. If more than one pattern uses this term, like different thread-pool patterns, it is should be a noun only. Sae1962 (talk) 13:01, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * That's manifestly wrong. A simple Google search shows very many hits for "thread pool patterns". I'm going to change it (and move it to uncapitalized). SemperBlotto (talk) 14:10, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

A tip or two
Don't use in etymologies lol, it's only for translation tables. For saying a Turkish term is from a certain Arabic term (as you did in one entry) use this format: From.

Also, don't add topical categories to non-lemma forms such as plurals. Pronunciation is welcome if you feel like adding it there, but of course only written in IPA, SAMPA or enPR (though I guess enPR is English only, though I could be wrong), but not topical categories. They are for the lemma entries only. 50 Xylophone Players talk 10:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I do not know how to write in SAMPA. I will stop to add pronounciation information, as there is no hint how to use IPA or SAMPA for Turkish. Also, I will go through my last non-lemma forms and remove all the topical categories from there. Sae1962 (talk) 11:22, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * For Turkish IPA have a look at wikipedia:Wikipedia:IPA for Turkish, Azerbaijani and Turkmen Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 12:17, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

ungeeignete Person
Hi! You may have noticed that several of your entries, like [[ungeeignete Person]], have been nominated for deletion. This is because they aren't idiomatic, they're "sum of parts" — someone who sees "ungeeignete Person" in a German text can figure out what it means by looking up [[ungeeignet]] and [[Person]]. We sometimes list non-idiomatic translations in translations tables, like the table at [[square peg into a round hole]], but when we do, we link the words separately, and don't create entries for the whole terms (so no [[ungeeignete Person]]). Cheers, - -sche (discuss) 21:20, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with you, but is it better to make the translation entry in this case as  * German: ungeeignete Maßnahme , or even as  * German: ungeeignete Maßnahme ? Otherwise, the link would lead to nowhere. Sae1962 (talk) 01:56, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. If the translation itself isn't an idiom in German, then linking the words separately is the thing to do. Using on both words can look a little heavy, so I usually use  only on the semantically most important word (by some purely subjective standard) and use  on the other(s), e.g.  . Ideally, of course, the thing to do would be to translate an idiom with an idiom, if there is one, but in this case, I can't think of a German idiom that's equivalent to "square peg in a round hole" either. The closest I can think of is Was nicht passt, wird passend gemacht, but it's a proverb, not a noun phrase, and of course it implies that the square pegs are going to be forced into those round holes no matter what. —Angr 07:50, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
 * What about words like oy hakkı or oy verme hakkı? I add them as "nouns", although composed of several words, they are not really a single word. Am I also supposed to enter them splitted in parts? Sae1962 (talk) 11:52, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know Turkish, so I don't know if they're idiomatic expressions or sum-of-parts in that language. If they're sum-of-parts, then each word should be entered separately in the translation box. —Angr 12:32, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:second person singular dative of and Template:Template:third person singular possesive dative of
Speedy deleted your templates, per your request. You still had two pages you created which used those templates, gücüne: and mevkine:. I changed them to use ; please update them if there's another template they should be using. ~ Robin (talk) 10:16, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! Sae1962 (talk) 11:13, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * possessive: has four s's, not three. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 12:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh my God, a typo! I will make the corrections. Sae1962 (talk) 12:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Good. It may help you cleaning those up to use What Links Here with the misspelled template pages (frex, Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:first person singular possesive of). ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 12:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Silav Sae

 * Bence büktürtmek fiilinin birinci shais ichin büktürtürüm hali dogrudur, ve büktürtürim varyantesi degil.Chünkü bak--> äldürtürüm, göründürtürüm ve saire. George Animal  . 16:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Çok teşekkürler! Görmemişim, düzelttim. Sae1962 (talk) 16:07, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

ku-noun

 * Hi Sae
 * Könntest du die Kategorien: and  and  hinzufügen zu template:ku-noun oder in diese integrieren, da ich mich mit diesem Vorlagenkram nicht so gut auskenne.Vielen Dank im Voraus.-- George  Animal  . 10:44, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Ich habe die Frage an einen der Hauptautoren dieser Vorlage weitergeleitet, da ich mich auch nicht besonders damit auskenne. Sae1962 (talk) 11:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Kesme işareti
Merhaba, yapım eki almadıkları sürece ulus isimlerinden sonra gelen çekim ekleri kesme işaretiyle ayrılmalıdır, çoğul eki hariç. Bu yüzden oluşturduğunuz Arabın ve Araba maddelerine sil şablonu koydum. Sinek (talk) 21:17, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Yanlışsınız. Türkleri, Arabın gibi kelimelerde kesme işareti konmaz ve sondaki sessiz yumuşamabilir. Yani Arap'a yerine Araba denir ve araba ile de sesteş kelime oluşur. Sae1962 (talk) 21:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Lütfen "kesme işareti" kısmındaki açıklamalara göz atın, -ler/-lar ekinde size katılıyorum ama Arap'a yazılıp "Araba" okunur. Örneklerde Alman'sınız, Kırgız'ım ve Türklerin şeklindeki yazılışları göreceksiniz. Sinek (talk) 12:46, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Bir soru

 * Selam Sae1962!
 * Türkçen süperdir vallahi! Sen Kürtçe biliyor musun? Eğer biliyorsan Kürtçe kelime yapımında yardımcı olabilir misin? Günde bir kelime bile olur, eğer olursa. Ben de (zaten arada bir yapıyorum). Sana Almanca veya Türkçe kelime yapımında seve seve yardımcı olurum. Selam ve teşekkürler. -- George Animal  . 19:27, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Malesef Kürtçem yok. Ama elimden geldiğince yardımcı olmaya çalışırım. Kumanci mi, Sorani mi? Yoksa Kelhuri mi gireceksin? Bu arada şuradaki yazılar tamam mı? Sae1962 (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Teșekkürler. Ben yaratmayı biliyorum. Ama ben burada Kürtçe kelimeler yazan tek kișiyim. Kürtçe kelimeler yalnız olmaktan sıkılıyorlar ve bir kaç yeni kelime arkadaşlara ihtiyaç duyuyorlar.-- George Animal  . 19:41, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * :-D Sae1962 (talk) 06:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Bazı eksiklikler gözetleniliyor. Önümdeki günlerde tamamlayacağım. Teşekkürler.-- George Animal  . 19:42, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Templates and categories nominated for deletion
I recently nominated for deletion a block of categories and templates that you created. These were for grammatical categories that would be wrong for most languages (though I don't know anything about their use in Turkish). It's only fair that I give you a chance to participate in the discussion about whether to delete them or not.

You can go to the discussions by clicking on the following links for the categories and for the templates. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Pronunciation in Turkish translations
Hi Sae1962, I have seen that you add pronunciation of Turkish translations in the transliteration section. Our policy is that transliterations should only be added for languages with non-Latin script and pronunciation should only be added to the foreign language (Turkish) entries (not to the translations sections). If you think, that it would make sense to add pronunciation to the translation sections, then you should discuss this issue on WT:Beer parlour before. Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 12:12, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I stop adding pronunciations to translations. It's a pitty that the pronunciation alphabet is not explained for the Turkish language, so I can't add it to the entries either. What I will continue is to add usage notes, if a syllable is stressed and this changes the meaning, like it is the case in evlenme and evlenme. Sae1962 (talk) 12:50, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * For Turkish IPA have a look at wikipedia:Wikipedia:IPA for Turkish, Azerbaijani and TurkmenMatthias Buchmeier (talk) 12:57, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

şikayet
Hmm, the link you've provided in the edit summary of şikayet actually uses the lowercase s with cedilla which is ş. Are you intending to contradict the link you've provided? If so, why provide it at all? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * You are right: I forgot to save şikâyet - so silly from me! Sae1962 (talk) 14:33, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No I'm not right, apologies, and thanks for adding şikâyet. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Template:de-adj
Your last edit broke this template. It now shows the comparative as superlative (even if the superlative was explicitely given as a parameter). Please be careful and check the conequences after changing frequently used templates like this, you just introduced errors in thousands of pages with German adjectives. --Zeitlupe (talk) 12:34, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you be more specific? I tested the new version under the name . It worked for phänomenal both with the old parameters and the new, shortened ones. And it worked also for groß. Please give me a few examples that do not work with the again created temporary template  . Sae1962 (talk) 20:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I noticed that the template was broken in my recently created page dünnhäutig, which uses the template like this: . After you changed the template, it suddenly displayed "dünnhäutiger" as the superlative. I also noticed that when I reverted the template, the old and correct behaviour did not immediately take effect on all pages (maybe there is some caching involved?), although it did immediately take effect in preview pages. --Zeitlupe (talk) 06:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Anagrams
Please add these sections only at the bottom of a Language section (but before categories and interwikis). See upbeat. DCDuring TALK 13:48, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am a little confused. Where have I added it wrongly (link)? Perhaps, I was irritated because of the "Declination" section, which is not ranked when selecting the "Headers" down the page. Sae1962 (talk) 14:01, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry. You added a translation section after the Anagrams. See the history. DCDuring TALK 14:25, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Headers in template
Can you please avoid headers like ====Usage notes==== in templates? The reason is, in entries, when someone clicks the edit link next to the header, they will in fact end up editing the template, which is not what usually happens when you click an edit section link. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:09, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but I need your help. As far as I remember, there are two templates of me with headers that I have used several times. These are the Template:first-person singular usage notes and the Template:Turkish intrusive verbs usage note. One must first find out which entries use the headers (how?) and add the header to the entries, then remove it from the template. Thank you! Sae1962 (talk) 09:12, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I should be able to do this by bot, it's a simple enough task. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help! Sae1962 (talk) 10:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

hominin
Hi! I undid you changes to hominin and hominini. The singular ("Any member...") is hominin; hominini is a plural form of hominin and the name of the tribe. (Hominins is another plural form.) - -sche (discuss) 21:16, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I was misled by the link of hominini to hominin. And also the Wikipedia article that starts with "Hominini is the tribe of Homininae that comprises Homo, and the two species of the genus Pan (the common chimpanzee and the bonobo), their ancestors, and the extinct lineages of their common ancestor (but see the discussion below for alternative views)." Are you sure that Hominini is not the name of the tribe? Sae1962 (talk) 10:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Hominini (capital "H") is the name of the tribe, but hominin (lowercase "h") is the word for an individual member of the tribe, and hominini (lowercase "h") is sometimes used as the plural of hominin, meaning "members of the tribe". I reverted your change because you made "hominini" the singular. It's a bit like how "the British" is a collective term for all Britons, while "Briton" means "one British person", and "Britons" is the plural, meaning "multiple British people". - -sche (discuss) 19:43, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * :-o :-s :-/ That's complex! :-D Sae1962 (talk) 06:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

İyelik ekleri
Merhaba, bir süredir burada çok aktif değilim. En son, iyelik eki almış Türkçe sözcük çekimlerinin yaratılması konusunda bir tartışma vardı, bir sonuca erdi mi? insanımsım, insanımsısı gibi bazı katkılarınızı gördüğüm için size soruyorum. Ayrıca TDK sözlüğü insanımsı ve insansıyı eş anlamlı olarak gösterirken Vikipedi'de insansı hominin, insanımsı ise hominoid olarak açıklanmış. Bu sınıflandırmalara çok aşina olduğumu söyleyemem, yalnızca size belirtmek istedim. Sinek (talk) 12:30, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Merhaba! O tartışmadan haberim yoktu. Bu konuda bir karar alınırsa haberim olsun isterdim. Yalnız şablonda "poss=+" imkânı var. Prensip olarak dilde bu ekler mevcuttur. Dolayısıyla konması problem olmasa gerek. Çoğullar ve sıfatlarda da böyle sorularla karşılaşıyorum (Allah'lar, çırılçıplak gibi). Bence Türkçe maddeler, aynı zamanda dil hakkında genel bir "feeling" de vermeli; mesela iyeliğim maddesiyle aldırtmak maddelerinde böyle "Usage notes"lar ekledim. Sae1962 (talk) 12:50, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Bahsettiğim tartışma burada ama dediğim gibi, hâlâ bir sonuca varmamış. Elbette ben de bir problem olduğunu düşünmüyorum, ancak olası tüm hâlleri girmeye kalkmak büyük bir iş yükü olacaktır. Ben çekim şablonlarında sözcükleri ve ekleri belirtmeyi, eklere de bağlantılar vererek görevlerini açıklamayı daha mantıklı buluyorum. Verdiğim linkte de bu örneği vermiştim, evimizdeyiz gibi, kullanıcıların her eke tek tek ulaşabilmesini sağlayacak bir ayarlama daha pratik olacaktır diye düşünüyorum. Sinek (talk) 16:23, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ben sen girersek zor tabii. Am bot diye birṣey var... Sae1962 (talk) 18:04, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Bir soru
Selam Sae1962! Sayfaları ve ad formlarını tek tek yaratmak yerine niye bir bot hesabı açmıyorsun? Daha rahat olur senin için. George Animal. 20:46, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Ben de bu konuda bana yardım edecek birilerini arıyorum! Acaba bot denilen yazılım nasıl hazırlanıyor? Bu konuda Vikipedi'nin ne gibi sınırlamaları var? Ayrıca çoğullar için (sağ sütun) şablonlara nasıl ad vereceğimi bilemiyorum. Mesela işletmem, "first-person singular simple present possessive form of işletme" olarak giriliyor. Pekiyi, o zaman işletmelerim "first-person singular simple present possessive plural form of işletme" mi olacak?? Sae1962 (talk) 20:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
 * İstersen bir test yaparım, botumla ondan sonra sen programı indirirsin ve sana nasil yapacağını o zaman söylerim. Tamam mı? Selam! -- George Animal  . 19:40, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Tamam! Sae1962 (talk) 19:43, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Test bitti.Cogul formlarini nasil yazacagiz/form olarak?selam George Animal  . 10:27, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Süper! Şimdi ne yapmam lâzım? Sae1962 (talk) 09:00, 7 October 2012 (UTC)].
 * Das ist nicht so schwer. lade die aktuelle Version herunter (welchen Betriebssystem hast du denn?; je nach), (du muss nichts installieren), dann entpacke die Datei, dabei wird ein ordner namens pywikipedia erstellt.Dann kopiere den Link zu python (wo dass installiert ist) und gehe zu Windows Einstellungen für Windows 7), das gilt auch für viele andere Betriebssysteme.Dann folge hier [[http://geekswithblogs.net/renso/archive/2009/10/21/how-to-set-the-windows-path-in-windows-7.aspx für Windows 7).Wenn alles klappt, dann gib auf deiner Konsole (cmd, DOS-) den Link zu dem pywikipedia-ordner ein.Wenn das klappt, dann sage ich dir, was du noch tun musst.Wenn das nicht klappt, dann schau hier .LG--[[User:George Animal| George ]] Animal . 09:45, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Vielen Dank! Werde heute Nacht oder einer der kommenden Nächte mir das anschauen. :-) Sae1962 (talk) 11:38, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * selam
 * Programi indirebildin mi ? George Animal  . 19:09, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Kasım ayında vaktim olacak. Hanımım burada olmayacak, ben de bu işlerle ilgileneceğim. --Sae1962 (talk) 19:14, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Javacı olduğumdan Jython'u indirdim ve installer'le yerleştirdim. Şimdi C:/Program Files/Jython2.5.3'tedir. Ama tabii ki bu pywikipedia yok. Kendim "Dokumente" altında bir jyWikipedia</tt> oluştururum. --Sae1962 (talk) 08:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Yılın ayları
Could you please use English names for templates, so we all know what they are for? Also, if you want to make a list of months, please use, like. 10:32, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Sae1962 (talk) 10:51, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Um... that's not quite how it works. Again, see . 12:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Ruhr bölgeleri?

 * Selam Sae1962
 * Ruhr bölgesinin çoğulu var mı? Diğer Ruhr bölgeleri denilince ne anliyorsun?--<font face="Impact"> George Animal  . 12:07, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Türkçede her zaman çoğul ve Steigerung oluyor. Sae1962 (talk) 20:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Arabic vocalization
You cannot add compound Arabic vocalizations on Wikipedia or Wiktionary. When you save the page, the order of the two diacritics is automatically reversed, which is the incorrect order. You have correctly typed, for example, "shadda" + "fatha", but if you go back and look at what you have saved, the order is now "fatha" + "shadda", which is wrong. Some Arabic fonts are able to display this as if it were entered correctly, but most Arabic fonts cannot. The same is true for all combinations of Arabic compound vocalizations. —Stephen (Talk) 21:05, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for this! I will go back to the previous version and remove other vocalisation I made (only a few). --Sae1962 (talk) 21:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

 * There is a way that it can be done. You have to enter the XML character references in place of the actual vowels: Shadda+fatha =  • shadda+kasra =   • shadda+dhamma =  . —Stephen (Talk) 21:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, that's far away from WYSIWYG and too painstaking for me. But for all words having a transliteration, it should be a viable task for a bot. --Sae1962 (talk) 21:41, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

 * Now that I think about it, there is another way. A few years ago we looked at this problem and made a template that would do the work. You can use and indicate sha/shi/shu (shadda+fatha/shadda+kasra/shadda+dhamma). For example, you can type كتب and then place  after the ت to get:   كتب   . —Stephen (Talk) 21:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

more on vocalization
The vocalization that you added to was incorrect. It should have been مَسْؤُولِيّة. For one thing, you used a compound diacritic again ( يَّ ); and secondly, the mark you put here... ؤً ...is nunation, which would add the sound -an. Nunation is a diacritic that is used for grammatical purposes, and it can only be placed on the final consonant in a word. You should have used dhamma instead. But never put compound diacritics for Arabic unless you add them by using one of the three methods I mentioned in the previous comment. Otherwise, compound diacritics will always be saved incorrectly. —Stephen (Talk) 13:08, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry, of course, you are right. It happend because of the new notebook with a high resolution and the naturally small Arabic characters. I had to zoom in to see if the shaddah on the ي. OK, you write not to use compound diacritics in this way. That is a shaddah should never become a diacritic sign, as it is technically also a diacritic. --Sae1962 (talk) 13:14, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

mobile app at RFD
Your "mobile app" and "mobile application" have been sent to WT:RFD as semantic sum of parts. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:34, 23 November 2012 (UTC) Other your entries that have been deleted or are at WT:RFD: --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:37, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Video Object
 * WT:RFD

ausnahmlos
You have entered German "ausnahmlos" as "indispensable". That is wrong. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:13, 1 December 2012 (UTC) Thanks for the correction! Sorry for the error. :( --Sae1962 (talk) 20:09, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like an adverb to me, possibly invariably: (without exception). SemperBlotto (talk) 11:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * de:ausnahmslos has adjectival examples, such as "ausnahmslose Zustimmung" (unanimous agreement), "ausnahmsloses Verbot" (strict prohibition). --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:22, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, my German is very rusty. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:23, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

compound terms
Hi Sae1962,

First let me thank you for your many contributions, especially Turkish and German which others have said are decent additions. I don't speak those languages, but I trust them especially knowing how much effort you put into your English entries. At the same time, I'd like to point out that you've acquired somewhat of a name for yourself by creating many English entries that are not idiomatic, that are no more than a sum of the meanings of the individual words. These may not be a majority of your multi-word entries, but they are common enough that there is a noticeable trend in WT:RFD of nominations for deletion. Personally I'm not convinced that all of the nominations are actually sum of parts, but it would be quite helpful for your reputation and for our sanity if you wouldn't mind being somewhat more selective in your additions. Alternatively, if you feel strongly about the need for including all of these terms, then you could join the discussion at WT:RFD. Thanks for your understanding, and I hope that this note doesn't deter you in any way from your enthusiasm and dedication. DAVilla 13:59, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello!

I am aware of the five to ten RFDs, and I will stop to add such entries directly. The reason for entering them is perhaps that I am not a native speaker, and German "loves" to create new notions by concatenating words together. So, when adding translations, these words become compound terms - similar is it the case in Turkish. I hopefully will not forget to make a request for creation for such terms the next time so that there is no excess work to be done with deletion discussions etc., but also in order not to annoy other Wikipedians. --Sae1962 (talk) 10:37, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Cool, thanks for your response! DAVilla 03:27, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Tea Room Invitation
Hello, Sae. I am inviting you to discuss the etymology of the German verb ausmerzen. Do you have any idea about where it came from apart from the fact that it involves the prefix aus-? --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 09:51, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Here's also wiedergutmachen; Longtrend can participate if desired. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 11:54, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

ausgegraut
Looks like past participle of ausgrauen: to me, and possible an adjective, but not an adverb. (But I'm only de-1) SemperBlotto (talk) 08:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you may be write. But what about the sentence "The widgets are grayed out"? Here, grayed out is specifying what is. So, it should be an adverb in this case. Of course, when one says that "There are grayed-out widgets in this GUI", it is clearly an adjective. --Sae1962 (talk) 08:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks like a past participle usage (in English). Adverbs apply to verbs other than "to be" - there's a grammatical way of saying that, but I've forgotten it. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:34, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, then I will change it to an adjective. --Sae1962 (talk) 08:39, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

Fabrikmethoden
Hi! Just a reminder: be careful when you create entries that you use the right language header. For example, you created Fabrikmethoden as a Turkish entry and Initialwörter as an English one. - -sche (discuss) 01:05, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry! That's because the predefined templates do not exist for German and Turkish. I have created my own templates file, but rarely such things happen. --Sae1962 (talk) 07:49, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

sırat köprüsü
Merhaba. Sırat köprüsü söz öbeğini büyük harfle başlayarak yazmak doğru değildir. Dinle ilgili cennet, cehennem, sırat köprüsü gibi sözcükler ve sözcük öbekleri küçük harfle yazılmalıdır. Bu nedenle yaptığınız yönlendirmeyi geri aldım. İyi günler Sinek (talk) 14:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Özel isimlerde dinle ilgili bir kısıtlama olduğunu bilmiyordum. Fakat başka konularda da Türkçede büyük harfle başlama konusunda pek dikkat edilmiyor. Mesela güneşte olduğu gibi. Eğer astronomik kelimeden bahsedersek sadece bir tane güneş vardır ve aslında büyük yazılmalıdır. Bu dînî konularda da mantıken böyle: bir cehennem var. --Sae1962 (talk) 10:38, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Aslında burada da, dilin kullanımında da dediğiniz gibi zaten. Eğer yıldız olandan bahsediyorsak Güneş, ama gölgede kalma güneşe gel gibi bir kullanım varsa güneş şeklinde yazılıyor. Sinek (talk) 15:24, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

priyatno
Please, don't add entries for languages you don't speak! --biblbroksдискашн 19:49, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

 * Joining the request. And please don't add translations for language you don't write. It's prijatno, not priyatno! --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 05:52, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

to
Please don't create such redirects. We don't do that. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:57, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

algorithm
Sorry, I must not have logged in for a while. I've added a response to your question on my page. DAVilla 02:08, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

Products/brands
Specific branded software products like SQL*Plus are not dictionary words. For the same reason we don't have Heinz Baked Beans (food product) or Ford Sierra Sapphire (car product). Equinox ◑ 14:30, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the information! --Sae1962 (talk) 14:32, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

 * You've still been regularly adding stuff like this (soapUI). PLEASE STOP. Equinox ◑ 19:31, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

sürümden
Is there an n missing in the proninciation, or is it not pronounced? – Krun (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your question! I added the n in the pronounciation section. --Sae1962 (talk) 08:00, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

process
Your recent edits to this entry caused a script error in the Arabic translation. I fixed it now. 16:28, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry for that! I checked the entry several times and came to the wrong conclusion that somebody is editing an Arabic template, causing the error. :( --Sae1962 (talk) 17:17, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

WT:TR
Hi, could you help out with this? 16:43, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

A couple of notes
Please don't add "noun form" to for English entries. Plurals already belong to Category:English noun forms by way of Category:English plurals. Also, context templates now should be inside of and contain a lang= parameter (see WT:NFE for more). Chuck Entz (talk) 18:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Sum of parts again
Nominated for deletion: WT:RFD. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:12, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * How is it possible to add a non-sum-of-parts entry for translations then? I want that the English-speaking reader can see all translations for "coding conventions" at a place.--Sae1962 (talk) 17:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That is not possible. German tends to form long closed compounds for many of which there is going to be no target entry in English. On the other hand, translations for many other languages can probably be formed by translating "coding" (as an adjective) and "convention" separately. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:first-person singular usage notes
Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I have renamed Template:first-person singular usage notes to Template:U:tr:first-person singular. The "U:" prefix indicates that it's a usage note template, and the "tr:" prefix after that indicates that it's Turkish. (For more on this naming scheme, see Beer parlour/2014/June.) Cheers, - -sche (discuss) 00:44, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the categorization!--Sae1962 (talk) 08:02, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Nasiräer, Nazaräer, Nazoräer
Hello Sae1962. I recently created the German entries, , and , based on the entries in the online Duden which I've linked to in those entries. Would you mind checking them for mistakes, please? Also, User talk:Matthias Buchmeier should provide context. Thanks for your time. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 19:40, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Russian translations
What was this edit for? The "alt=" parameter is the display form of the word, unnecessary for Russian. It is not for transliterations. Transliterations should use the "tr=" parameter, but they are unnecessary here because Russian is transliterated automatically. Not to mention, your transliterations simply don't conform to our standards. --WikiTiki89 21:55, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I obviously used a wrong parameter for the transliteration.--Sae1962 (talk) 11:42, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Bolding
Hi. Please don't Do The Bolding like this to abbreviations; it's against policy (and looks pretty nasty). Thanks! Equinox ◑ 13:40, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the notice! Hopefully, I will not forget this, as bolding is a standard on other wikis of Wikimedia.--Sae1962 (talk) 14:30, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

de-noun and pluralia tantum
I started a discussion at Template talk:de-noun, and I thought you might be interested in giving a reply to it. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 03:41, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Non-standard Arabic transliteration
Hello,

In this you added non-standard Arabic transliteration. Please follow WT:AAR or provide Arabic vowels for automatic transliteration where possible. There's no need for alt= parameter with the Arabic diacritics, they are deleted by the links module, e.g. جَوَال is linked to جوال. (Note also that I have removed final sukuns when ʾiʿrāb endings are applicable but not provided.) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 09:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the warning. I will refrain from Arabic entries, as I am informed by other Wikis that my Arabic is too weak, and that is best not to go further.--Sae1962 (talk) 11:58, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for understanding. It's up to you. I don't discourage you or anyone, as long as people follow established conventions and try to avoid making too many mistakes. Pls note that your transliteration was correct (by other standards) but not following OUR standards. Doing everything right is difficult, especially considering many varieties of transliteration and difficulty of adding Arabic vowel points (diacritics). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 12:06, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Template tr-third-person singular possessive of
I saw you post on Template talk:tr-third-person singular possessive of. Can you please explain what you need the template for, and why does not do the job for you? The markup for emiri would be. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:04, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! :-D That was exactly what I needed. Perhaps, it is better to redirect all these old unwanted templates to the correct versions. If this is not desirable, the information on the template that it should not be used should be somewhat visible when using it, like <font color="FF000">deprecated! . I have a file with a lot of templates of my own, where  is one of the entries there that I will replace now.--Sae1962 (talk) 10:18, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. If you need to figure out the markup for any other template of yours, let me know. I'm looking forward to seeing those Turkish templates replaced with . --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:31, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * The proper template to use for these is . —CodeCat 17:24, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't see why that should be the proper template. For a tr- specific template, there needs to be a specific rationale. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:12, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Please be more careful
In, you not only added a Turkish entry (which is fine), you also deleted the Tok Pisin entry (which is NOT fine). Please be more careful. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 11:04, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

English pronunciation
Hi, I changed the pronunciation at kisses (and on tr.wikt) to reflect RP and GenAm pronunciations. If it does belong to a different dialect, please add it back but only after marking where it is pronounced that way. Ultimateria (talk) 16:29, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * You're being too kind- no native speaker would ever pronounce it that way, with a cardinal vowel in an unstressed syllable. Unstressed vowels in English tend to end up as some sort of mid-to-high central unrounded vowel like ɘ or ᵻ- and certainly not a low back vowel in the presence of a front high one. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:56, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the correction of the obviously wrong pronunciation information! --Sae1962 (talk) 05:55, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was attempting to be tactful. While I'm here: Sae, please don't forget to add slashes (//) to IPA pronunciations! The category of IPA errors is already very full. Ultimateria (talk) 14:45, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Where can I find information about the category of IPA errors? And another point: if the double slashes are always required, why not making the IPA template more intelligent so that it adds them, if they are missing?--Sae1962 (talk) 14:54, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Some delimiter is required, but it can be either slashes for phonemic pronunciations, or square brackets for phonetic pronunciations. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:47, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * It's Category:IPA pronunciations with invalid IPA characters. It's more general than the name indicates. (Maybe) clarifying on Chuch Entz's comment, we can't assume that a pronunciation uses slashes because if it's actually phonetic, square brackets are needed. Ultimateria (talk) 17:36, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Please be more careful adding English pronunciations! See. I would suggest that you only add pronunciations to forms of entries that already have IPA, but I've noticed that you sometimes end it in the wrong sound (/s/ or /z/) when the rule for it is very simple. Ultimateria (talk) 19:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Better not to add any, if they are sometimes not correct.--Sae1962 (talk) 20:03, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

aşdırılır aşdırılmaz
The definitions of this term are not comprehensible. They make no sense in English. Can you rewrite them? It seems to be a form of aşılır aşılmaz. I can understand the definitions of aşılır aşılmaz. —Stephen (Talk) 11:49, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * It may make no sense for a non-Turkic language speaker, but the syllable/character -tir/-t is a strong building block when creating new verbs. With this feature, it is very easy to show hierarchical dependencies in the social hierarchy. A horrible example is the one-word sentence Avusturyalılaştırttıramadıklarımızdandır. The same way, "aşar aşmaz" in passive form is "aşılır aşılmaz". If a hierarchical dependency is added, this passive form becomes "aşdırılır aşdırılmaz", the next hierarchical step is "aşdırtılır aşdırtılmaz". One can indefinitely continue this, but more than -tirttirt will hardly be used.--Sae1962 (talk) 17:35, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Stephen's complaint is about the English definition, which is incomprehensible. It should be restated in a clearer fashion. --WikiTiki89 17:56, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * This is English Wiktionary- our audience is primarily "non-Turkic language speaker"s. If you can't explain it to the people it's intended for, something's seriously wrong. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Turkish palindromes
There are some Turkish entries that are categorized as palindromes, but look unusual: katar, Sayan, Sayar. Do you know if this is correct? DTLHS (talk) 01:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Seems that the user has copied some other page entry with this category. All of them are not palindromes, and I corrected it.--Sae1962 (talk) 04:08, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

üzüntü
An anonymous IP address added üzüntü in an improper manner. So I stepped in. Expand it as you wish. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 07:52, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

Silme etiketi koyduğun
Selamünaleyküm, silme etiketi koyduğunu artık şuradan https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:Requests_for_verification#.C3.A7imerlik takip edebilirsin. --123snake45 (talk) 20:14, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Aleykum selâm ve Rahmetullah! Teşekkür ederim.--Sae1962 (talk) 06:02, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Rock
As for, rock is a hypernym of Britrock rather than a hyponym. Also, in English entries, Wikipedia usually goes to External links rather than References. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:19, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I already made the corrections in several entries.--Sae1962 (talk) 11:20, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Declension and conjugation
These headers go before synonyms, hyponyms, derived terms etc, not after. —CodeCat 16:01, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Would you mind adding this information below the page in edit mode? These headers are not enlisted there, making any order possible.--Sae1962 (talk) 17:07, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You never read WT:EL? —CodeCat 17:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, I haven't. Good to know that we are now in a discussion as described at WT:EL.--Sae1962 (talk) 17:42, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
 * There's not much to discuss. I was merely reminding you of the policy. —CodeCat 18:02, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Your incorrect handling of "Derived terms" and "Related terms"
Hello Sae1962 -- Many, many times, you have incorrectly entered terms into "Related terms" sections.

As explained at WT:ELE, derived terms are any morphological derivatives of the defined term. A morphological derivative is any term which includes the form or structure of the defined term, as bossy incorporates the form of boss. In keeping with the meaning of "morphological derivative", derived terms also include any compound term, phrase, or proverb that includes the form or structure of the defined term -- so, for example, feel for, feel free, and feel the heat are all derived terms of feel. You routinely mistakenly move such terms into the "Related terms" section.

The "Related terms" section (as is also explained at WT:ELE) is solely for etymologically related terms which do not preserve the same form or structure as the defined term, such as beef and bovine. For most entries, "Related terms" is a relatively small section, if it is present at all.

Please respect Wiktionary's established practices and policies with respect to "Derived terms" and "Related terms". Respectfully -- · (talk) 04:43, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
 * I am genuinely sorry for that, as I thought that derived terms are "Wortbildungen" in German (see the fourth meaning)!! Nobody told me that I am wrong till you wrote this reminder, although I am making these"corrections" for some time.--Sae1962 (talk) 08:28, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

"Initialism" and "Abbreviation" headers are deprecated
Please use the real part of speech, like Noun or Verb. I'm changing it back at dmg. Equinox ◑ 10:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Please stop creating obvious sum-of-parts entries!
Equinox ◑ 14:59, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You mean software testing and it's hyponyms?--Sae1962 (talk) 15:00, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

Negative-of-negative meanings for positive verb forms
You have added meanings to several positive verb forms, like here for, as being a negative form of a negative verb:
 * 2. third-person singular present simple indicative negative of gitmemek.

In some cases these negative-of-negative meanings even come as the first meaning, like for. Including these seems a bit strange to me, as if we were to list the meanings of believable as:
 * Capable of being believed; credible.
 * Not unbelievable.

Is there a good reason for listing such negative-of-negative meanings for positive verb forms? --Lambiam 15:09, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * As all verbs in Turkish have also a negative form, each third-person singular present indicative is at the same time the negative third-person singular present indicative of the negative of that same verb. So, it is grammatically correct that same third-person singular present indicative word has always two meanings.--Sae1962 (talk) 15:33, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Semantically, that's true, but grammatically, that's nonsense. It would be like adding a verb section to every Turkish noun because you can say "A is B" in Turkish by just saying "A B". If you don't have a "negative of gitmemek" sense at gitmek, why are you cluttering all the other entries with that kind of useless information? After all, if you're going to have gitmek and gitmemek as separate lemmas, then you shouldn't have their inflected forms refer to other lemmas- it defeats the purpose of having lemmas in the first place. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:29, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
 * It's gramatically and semantically the case. What do you mean with "having lemmas in the first place"? I think thos is a language-specific feature that has no point for an English entry. If you think that is inappropriate, then open a discussion on this subject. As a native speaker of Turkish, I would for sure vote against your point. But if the decision confirms your point, such entries will become forbidden. Again, I think that a dictionary should stress also grammatic/semantic specialities. Calling them "cluttering" is a proof that you do not understand this subject thoroughly.--Sae1962 (talk) 09:07, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

I must say that I am with Chuck Entz here. The argument that we do not list, for example, as a verb, although semantically it can function as one, is, in my eyes, compelling. The argument that it is "gramatically the case" that all verbs, including negative verbs, also have a negative form, is begging the question. Sae1962, can you cite any Turkish grammar book or other authoritative source that treats or mentions a verb as being, or serving as, the negative of a -memek verb? --Lambiam 09:07, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Here is a Turkish site about English & Turkish grammar & the (negative) verbs. And here is an English site on the same subject.--Sae1962 (talk) 12:35, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I can't say anything about the Turkish site, but the English site just says that every positive can be made into a negative by adding -me. It says nothing about negatives of negatives. One could just as easily conclude from that description that one would make a negative of a negative by adding another -me to it. Of course, no one would ever do that, because there's already a positive form that means the same thing as a double negative without adding more complication. Stating that gider is a negative form of gitmemek is about as useful as saying that it's the negative of the negative of gitmek- anyone with any sense can figure that out without having it explained in the entry. There are all kinds of logically-correct things that aren't stated explicitly in reference works: for instance,  a right angle is described as 45 degrees, even though it's also 405 degrees, 765 degrees, etc. We also don't say that gider is the third person singular form of gidersin, because readers are supposed to know that they can find out all that stuff from the lemma entry, gitmek. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:33, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, a right angle measures 90 degrees (one quarter of 360 degrees). --Lambiam 20:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * The Turkish page basically says the same: "In Turkish, on the other hand, the suffix -me/-ma is used when making sentences negative." It does specifically not suggest that, say, yapmak serves as the negative of yapmamak. --Lambiam 20:51, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * OK, in that case, it is an irrelevant grammatical detail that should not necessarily be part of a lemma. In that case, I suppose that this decision should be written as a result of an open discussion. The adoption of these entries could be made in this case with a bot. By the way: Negative of gitmemek is gelmek and gitmek only.--Sae1962 (talk) 15:47, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * I'll start removing these negative-of-negative meanings then. If I counted correctly, this concerns 70 entries, from to . In my estimation, it will be about as much work to write bot code for this task as doing it by hand.  --Lambiam 21:08, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * (edit conflict) I think most linguists would describe gitmek as the positive of gitmemek rather than its negative, since it's easier to explain it as a system where affixes are added to change the meaning or grammatical function of a base form, rather than focusing on the relationship of any one form with any other form. If Turkish is like any of the American Indian languages I've worked with, there are nearly an infinite number of combinations of the base form and of all the various affixes, so you can't possibly include everything that's relevant in every entry- whatever you do is going to be inadequate, so it's better to just keep it simple. That's not to say that Turkish is inherently harder than any other language- they're all learned by babies, after all. It just means that the complexity is in different parts of the system- some others do it with word order, some with specialized grammatical particles, and others with a larger vocabulary- though no language sticks completely to any one approach.
 * At any rate, it's not for me to dictate how each language is handled. I've been arguing rather forcefully precisely because it's not my decision, and I want you to understand my point of view. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:20, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

✅ – For the record, I also made four corrections in the remaining positive meanings, which is in 5.7% of the lemmas – disconcertingly high, I must say. --Lambiam 22:02, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello Sae,

Back in '16, you tried to transclude a template called "edia" on slipway, but no such template seems to have ever existed. Do you remember what work this was meant to refer to? And do you perhaps know if you've tried to use that template elsewhere?__Gamren (talk) 20:47, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Your definitions for "mühimlik"
I have never heard these three definitions for "mühimlik", nor do they make a lot of sense judging from what "mühim" means. What sources have you used for these "dated" definitions? Ali Sami Sayın (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

title: User talk:Sae1962


text: posar-se

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: posar-se


text:
purjekerta

Noun

 * 1)  suit full set of sails required for a ship

title: purjekerta


text:
サラダ油

Etymology 1
From.

Noun

 * 1) vegetable oil

Etymology 2
From.

title: サラダ油


text:
lauluääni

Noun

 * 1) singing voice, set of pipes voice for singing

title: lauluääni


text: x-sistemo

title: x-sistemo


text:
JSR

Noun

 * 1)   an assembler command

title: JSR


text: x-sistemon

title: x-sistemon


text:
middle way

Etymology
From +. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬; compare also 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) The middle of three paths.
 * 2) An intermediate course (of action, policy etc) between two extremes; a compromise.
 * 3) The midpoint of a person's life; middle age.
 * 1) The midpoint of a person's life; middle age.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Finnish: keskitie, keskimmäinen tie
 * French:

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Finnish: keskitie
 * French:

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Finnish:
 * French:

title: middle way


text:
éponymie

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) eponymy

title: éponymie


text:
cotschen

Etymology
From. Compare 🇨🇬.

Adjective

 * 1)  red

title: cotschen


text:
cucumera

Noun

 * 1)  cucumber

title: cucumera


text:
háromágú szigony

Noun

 * 1) trident a three-pronged spear

Declension

 * For the noun, see.
 * The adjective remains unchanged.

title: háromágú szigony


text:
divewear

Noun

 * 1) Items of clothing appropriate for diving.

title: divewear


text:
cudesch

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  book

title: cudesch


text: tzigany

title: tzigany


text: tziganies

title: tziganies


text:
cuschina

Etymology
From, from earlier.

Noun

 * 1) kitchen

title: cuschina


text: tzolkins

title: tzolkins


text:
cockroachy

Adjective

 * 1)  Infested with cockroaches.
 * 2)  Resembling or characteristic of cockroaches.
 * 1)  Resembling or characteristic of cockroaches.
 * 1)  Resembling or characteristic of cockroaches.
 * 1)  Resembling or characteristic of cockroaches.

title: cockroachy


text:
eĥoŝanĝo ĉiuĵaŭde

Etymology
Literally "echo change every Thursday," from,.

title: eĥoŝanĝo ĉiuĵaŭde


text:
damaun

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) tomorrow

Noun

 * 1) tomorrow

title: damaun


text:
háromágú

Adjective

 * 1) three-pointed, three-pronged, trifurcate

title: háromágú


text:
ĉiuĵaŭde

Etymology
From [from ].

Adverb

 * 1) every Thursday

title: ĉiuĵaŭde


text:
ágú

Adjective

 * 1) -branched, -forked, -pointed, -pronged

title: ágú


text: duzend

title: duzend


text: geduzt

title: geduzt


text: duze

title: duze


text:
gerbable

Adjective

 * 1) stackable

title: gerbable


text: gerbables

title: gerbables


text: duzt

title: duzt


text: duzest

title: duzest


text:
watchstanding

Noun

 * 1) Standing on watch on a ship.

title: watchstanding


text: duzet

title: duzet


text: duzte

title: duzte


text: duztest

title: duztest


text: minuteries

title: minuteries


text: duzten

title: duzten


text: duztet

title: duztet


text:
Minuterie

Noun

 * 1) time switch, timer
 * 2) * 1793, Johann Karl Gottfried Jacobsson, Technologisches Wörterbuch, oder alphabetische Erklärung, volume 6 (H-P), page 570:
 * "de"
 * "de"

- Die Minuterie oder das Vorgelege, denn also heißt auch dieses Weiserwerk, könnte auch anders [...].

 * 1) * 1865, Neuer Schauplatz der Künste und Handwerke, Vollständiges Handbuch der Uhrmacherkunst, volume 171, edition 4, page 466:
 * "de"

- Die Wirkung ist hier unfehlbar, weil der Sperrer ein Schwengelstück ist, welches in der Minuterie auf dem Stundenrade befestigt ist, so daß es materiell unmöglich ist, daß der Hammer mehr Stunden schlägt, als der Zeiger auf dem Zifferblatte andeutet.

 * 1) minute scale (on watch dial)
 * 1) minute scale (on watch dial)
 * 1) minute scale (on watch dial)
 * 1) minute scale (on watch dial)

Quotations

 * 1981, Werk, Bauen + Wohnen, volume 68, published by the Bund Schweizer Architekten (Association of Swiss Architects), page 46:
 * "de"

- Auch die Elektrizität regt durch ihre Betriebsdauer von wenigen Augenblicken, die die Minuterie für den Weg gewährt, zum schnellen Durcheilen des Ganges an.

Derived terms

 * - dash minute scale

title: Minuterie


text: manĝaĵoj

title: manĝaĵoj


text: manĝaĵon

title: manĝaĵon


text: manĝaĵojn

title: manĝaĵojn


text:
llygod

Etymology
From, plural of , from. .

Noun

 * 1) mice
 * 2) voles

title: llygod


text:
nástupce

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) successor

title: nástupce


text:
daner

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  Danes

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  money

title: daner


text:
GiB

Related terms

 * gigabyte (GB)

title: GiB


text:
bletsch

Adjective

 * 1) humid, wet, soaked

title: bletsch


text:
lecar

Etymology
From, from.

Verb

 * 1) to lick touch with one's tongue

title: lecar


text:
Template:ca-decl-ppron/table

Catalan personal pronouns and clitics

title: Template:ca-decl-ppron/table


text: Template:ca-decl-ppron/documentation

title: Template:ca-decl-ppron/documentation


text:
compus

Etymology
Past participle of.

Adjective

 * 1) composed

Noun

 * 1) compound

title: compus


text:
tenir la chandelle

Etymology
lit. 'to hold the candle'.

Verb

 * 1) to be the third wheel, to play gooseberry

Usage notes
This is not the equivalent of the English idiom to.

Conjugation

 * see

title: tenir la chandelle


text: borsoj

title: borsoj


text: borson

title: borson


text: borsojn

title: borsojn


text: botaŭroj

title: botaŭroj


text: botaŭron

title: botaŭron


text: botaŭrojn

title: botaŭrojn


text:
User:EdwardsBot

m:User:EdwardsBot

title: User:EdwardsBot


text:
kriptaĵoscienco

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) cryptography

title: kriptaĵoscienco


text: brandoj

title: brandoj


text:
brandon

Etymology
, from, from +.

Noun

 * 1) firebrand; torch made of twisted straw
 * 2) loose, burning material from a fire
 * 3)  firebrand someone or something that is a source of trouble
 * 4) straw at the end of a staff placed at the corner of a field to indicate the juridical seizure of a crop
 * 1) straw at the end of a staff placed at the corner of a field to indicate the juridical seizure of a crop

title: brandon


text: brandojn

title: brandojn


text: chandelles

title: chandelles


text: brankoj

title: brankoj


text: Category:eo:Desserts

title: Category:eo:Desserts


text: branoj

title: branoj


text: branĉaroj

title: branĉaroj


text: brankon

title: brankon


text:
tiggy

Noun

 * 1)  The children′s game tag.

title: tiggy


text: Category:rm:Days of the week

title: Category:rm:Days of the week


text:
dumengia

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) Sunday

Adverb

 * 1) on Sunday

title: dumengia


text: branojn

title: branojn


text: brankojn

title: brankojn


text: branĉaron

title: branĉaron


text: branĉarojn

title: branĉarojn


text:
chasey

Noun

 * 1)  tag (the children's game).

title: chasey


text:
ŝorbeto

Etymology
From, , , , , , , all from , from , from , from.

Noun

 * 1) sorbet, sherbet frozen fruit puree

title: ŝorbeto


text: bretoj

title: bretoj


text: bretojn

title: bretojn


text: bridoj

title: bridoj


text: ŝorbeton

title: ŝorbeton


text:
emna

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) belief, faith

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  week

title: emna


text: bridon

title: bridon


text: ŝorbetoj

title: ŝorbetoj


text:
singing voice

Noun

 * 1) A person's voice when singing.

Translations

 * Danish: sangstemme
 * Dutch:
 * Faroese: songrødd
 * Finnish:
 * French: voix chantée
 * German:
 * Maori: reo waiata
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: sangstemme
 * Nynorsk: songrøyst, songstemme
 * Polish:
 * Swedish:

title: singing voice


text: ŝorbetojn

title: ŝorbetojn


text: bridojn

title: bridojn


text:
enviern

Etymology
From, a modification of.

Noun

 * 1) winter

title: enviern


text:
poŝtaĵo

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a piece of mail letter, postcard, package

title: poŝtaĵo


text: poŝtaĵon

title: poŝtaĵon


text: poŝtaĵoj

title: poŝtaĵoj


text: poŝtaĵojn

title: poŝtaĵojn


text: britoj

title: britoj


text: briloj

title: briloj


text: briliantoj

title: briliantoj


text: briton

title: briton


text: brilianton

title: brilianton


text: brilon

title: brilon


text: briliantojn

title: briliantojn


text: brilojn

title: brilojn


text: britojn

title: britojn


text: bronzoj

title: bronzoj


text: brosoj

title: brosoj


text: bronzon

title: bronzon


text: broŝuroj

title: broŝuroj


text: bronzojn

title: bronzojn


text: broson

title: broson


text: broŝuron

title: broŝuron


text: brosojn

title: brosojn


text: broŝurojn

title: broŝurojn


text:
sprijini

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to support, sustain, bear, succor
 * 2) to encourage, endorse, back up
 * 1) to encourage, endorse, back up

title: sprijini


text:
sprijin

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) support, assistance, aid, succor

title: sprijin


text: gourdes

title: gourdes


text: dalasis

title: dalasis


text:
szövőszék

Noun

 * 1) loom weaving frame

title: szövőszék


text:
wiluite

Etymology
? +

Noun

 * 1)  A dark green, brownish, or black blocky silicate mineral.

title: wiluite


text: szövőszékek

title: szövőszékek


text: hoglegs

title: hoglegs


text:
fichtelite

Etymology
Named for type locality Fichtelgebirge (contracted) (in Germany)).

Noun

 * 1)  A rare white monoclinic organic mineral, 7-isopropyl-1,4a-dimethyl-dodecahydro-1H-phenanthrene, found in fossilized wood from Bavaria.

title: fichtelite


text:
margaritasite

Noun

 * 1)  A yellow monoclinic caesium-bearing mineral in the carnotite group.

title: margaritasite


text:
lockpicker

Noun

 * 1) A person or device that lockpicks or picks locks.

title: lockpicker


text:
malloot

Etymology
Borrowed from, a dialectal word for a horsefly or gadfly.

Noun

 * 1)  exuberant, hyperactive or foolish woman
 * 1)  exuberant, hyperactive or foolish woman
 * 1)  exuberant, hyperactive or foolish woman

Adjective

 * 1)  foolish

title: malloot


text: lockpickers

title: lockpickers


text:
readahead

Noun

 * 1)  The operation of reading data from a storage medium in advance so that it is immediately available when requested.

title: readahead


text:
Talk:DILLIGAF

RFV discussion (1)
Common enough use to merit an entry? bd2412 T 04:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I like it, but it doesnt have to be capitalised. There are 220 000 google hits. Also, it seems to be an acronym used on T shirts and things, but (at least in the first 6 google pages, I didn't see it being used as text. I will leave it for now, and revert at the end of the month. More comments please. Andrew massyn 19:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC) "As there are no more comments, and the capitalisation is all wrong, deleting. Andrew massyn 18:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Def = Does it look like I give a fuck

RFV discussion (2)
"Do I [or does it?] look like I give a fuck?" Many mentions but few uses. Apparently military slang. Equinox ◑ 19:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Leftmostcat just told me (on IRC) that this word has failed rfv several times, which somehow I didn't notice. L☺g☺maniac chat? 19:17, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * From a quick Google Books scan: here's this, though I'm not sure whether it's a mention or a usage. Also this. L☺g☺maniac chat? 19:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Google Groups is probably a better place to look for this, since it's vulgar slang. Unfortunately my first quick glance found loads of irrelevant stuff. Might come back to it. Equinox ◑ 19:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Possibly "Another thing Massry doesn't like, that accusations that he's ruining the town's family atmosphere, to which he says... Dilligaf." Peptonized 19:52, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

RFV failed, entry moved redirectlessly to Citations:DILLIGAF. —Ruakh TALK 01:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:DILLIGAF


text: ŝtelinton

title: ŝtelinton


text: ŝtelintoj

title: ŝtelintoj


text:
अष्टक

Adjective

 * 1) having eight parts (,, etc.)
 * 2) familiar with the eight books of Pāṇini's grammar

Noun

 * 1) son of Viśvāmitra (,, , etc.)

Noun

 * 1) an object having eight parts or chapters

title: अष्टक


text: ŝtelintojn

title: ŝtelintojn


text: holla backs

title: holla backs


text:
Talk:White House rose garden

White House rose garden
Is this actually a place-name? Looking at CFI, it is not specifically disallowed, but it seems to go against the spirit of rules which disallow "Madison Street" or "London, Ontario" – ie, an uncomfortable number of literal words are needed to pinpoint its specificness (badly explained, but hopefully that makes sense). < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 18:14, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I think we ought to have an entry for the Rose Garden; I am not sure about the listed entry. If the President gives a speech from the Rose Garden it is a very specific rose garden. -  18:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with TDR. And White House rose garden should redirect to the Rose Garden. -- Ghost of WikiPedant 19:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's used attributively in US politics, "a rose-garden strategy", etc, I think, so it would probably have met our more stringent attestation standards of yore. DCDuring TALK 20:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * IPA needs work. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:40, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The Hebrew translation might not meet CFI, only one Google Book hit, 80 Google hits. BTW I'm not so sure that this entry shows up the weaknesses in the rules, or just it's possible to bypass the rules by making a contrived effort to do so. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:52, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:White House rose garden


text:
यथोपदेशम्

Adverb

 * 1) according to advice or instruction (,, etc.)

title: यथोपदेशम्


text:
Talk:entrance to Sea Gate

entrance to Sea Gate
Since the translation gets zero Google hits, this isn't valid. I'm assuming the translation(s) would have to meet CFI too. If not, errr. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:44, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Forget the translations, this is SoP through and through - I mean the definition for the "entrance to Sea Gate" = the "entrance to Sea Gate" for Christ sake. Delete with speed. ---> Tooironic 12:25, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * pwnt with a swiftness. — [ R·I·C ] opiaterein — 14:03, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
 * To point something out, "Place names, that is, names of geographic entities, are subject to the criteria for inclusion specified in the section "General rule", extended with the following additional requirements" (from CFI as of today's date). So this would qualify for deletion as "sum of parts" as would, debatably, New York, New York. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:entrance to Sea Gate


text: poŝton

title: poŝton


text:
Talk:-torus

-torus
Not sure this is a noun; if anything, it is a suffix, but n-torus isn't n suffixed with torus but the compound of the two with a hyphen (compare n-space). Equinox ◑ 21:29, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Right. Move to be a separate sense at [[torus]] instead and either delete or redirect. —msh210℠ (talk) 20:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree; move to torus and delete the "suffix" entry. --EncycloPetey 03:09, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Merged into [[torus]] and redirected thereto. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:41, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:-torus


text: canções

title: canções


text:
Talk:Delphines

Delfines
Genitive singular form of Delphin? Several dictionaries I checked say that Delphins is the only possible genitive form (same for Delfines, which is only a spelling variant). Longtrend 11:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Appears to be an error. These forms are not even remotely attestable, therefore they're gone. -- Prince Kassad 16:20, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The form "Delphines" is attestable in Google books:
 * "Die Gestalt eines Delphines bezieht sich wohl, allem Ansehen nach, vor ..."
 * "Die Energien des Delphines und Ihres Engels umgeben Sie und wenn Sie soweit sind..."
 * "Auf den Kopf des Delphines hat jeder Jüngling ein Bein gestellt,"
 * "Der Schädel ähnelt dem des gemeinen Delphines, ist etwas breiter..."
 * It may be a rare form or a non-standard one, but it seems attestable. See also b.g.c.: Delphines, lang=de.
 * For the other form "Delfines" I have not looked. --Dan Polansky 22:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like, actually. -- Prince Kassad 12:16, 16 September 2010 (UTC) addendum: and the second one I think refers to a person called "Delphines".

title: Talk:Delphines


text:
Talk:Delfines

Delfines
Genitive singular form of Delphin? Several dictionaries I checked say that Delphins is the only possible genitive form (same for Delfines, which is only a spelling variant). Longtrend 11:44, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Appears to be an error. These forms are not even remotely attestable, therefore they're gone. -- Prince Kassad 16:20, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The form "Delphines" is attestable in Google books:
 * "Die Gestalt eines Delphines bezieht sich wohl, allem Ansehen nach, vor ..."
 * "Die Energien des Delphines und Ihres Engels umgeben Sie und wenn Sie soweit sind..."
 * "Auf den Kopf des Delphines hat jeder Jüngling ein Bein gestellt,"
 * "Der Schädel ähnelt dem des gemeinen Delphines, ist etwas breiter..."
 * It may be a rare form or a non-standard one, but it seems attestable. See also b.g.c.: Delphines, lang=de.
 * For the other form "Delfines" I have not looked. --Dan Polansky 22:34, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks like, actually. -- Prince Kassad 12:16, 16 September 2010 (UTC) addendum: and the second one I think refers to a person called "Delphines".

title: Talk:Delfines


text:
Talk:-stuff

-stuff
Not a formative suffix; simply the word stuff used as the second half of a compound. --EncycloPetey 03:06, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 04:14, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete DCDuring TALK 09:24, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Go ahead and delete it if you want to, but only if there's a sense at stuff (which I don't know if there is yet) that covers this use. — lexicógrafo | háblame — 11:56, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sounds not entirely unreasonable. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

 * It would be much easier to be able to infer the meanings of the word when used as an element of a compound if we had a category of words compounded from it. A simple analog to the current state of the categories created by and  would suffice for now. We could make more distinctions (such as position and head) later. It would also be handy if all of these templates could facilitate links to sections. (Obviously, a link that was based on the gloss would be better.)
 * Using "what links here" from stuff mostly generates non-English terms. Using OneLook, I found the following spelled-solid terms: breadstuff, dyestuff, feedstuff, greenstuff, hardstuff, lodestuff, veinstuff (for stuff) and restuff, overstuff for stuff. The first four noun senses use "stuff" with about the same sense and the same relationship to the other element of the compound. The mining senses have a different relation to the other term, I think. There are also what might be similar uses of stuff not spelled solid, eg glad stuff:. DCDuring TALK 16:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As far as open compounds, M-W also has coarse stuff, fine stuff, gauge stuff, having to do with plaster, as well as blue stuff, garden stuff, hot stuff, kid stuff, kitchen stuff, mind stuff, red stuff, rough stuff (or roughstuff), serving stuff, ship stuff, small stuff, sob stuff, thick stuff, washing stuff, and white stuff. — lexicógrafo | háblame — 16:42, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:30, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:-stuff


text:
Talk:brindled-gnu

RFV discussion
Attestable in this form? Equinox ◑ 22:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Deleted. Equinox ◑ 23:57, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:brindled-gnu


text:
Talk:Syktyvkar

RFV discussion
Tagged in September by DCDuring. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

 * What is the aspect that requires verification? There's no doubt about the existence of the city nor of this being a widely used transliteration of the Russian name of it. It is also a capital of a semi-autonomous region and we tend to include them. --Hekaheka 08:52, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Is the transliteration actually used not mentioned in English running text? Do all capitals ipso facto get a free pass? Do they not have to meet attestation standards?
 * We still don't have a well thought-out approach to WikiGazetteer/WikiAtlas entries. (BTW, I have no search-and-destroy effort for these. I just tag the ones that show up on clean-up lists for bad formatting etc.) DCDuring TALK 15:41, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Re: "What is the aspect that requires verification?": Attributive use, per the CFI: "A person or place name that is not used attributively (and that is not a word that otherwise should be included) should not be included. Lower Hampton, Sears Tower, and George Walker Bush thus should not be included." (See Criteria for inclusion.) —Ruakh TALK 17:20, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

 * See Talk:United_States_of_America and many other Unresolved_issues/Place_names. We shouldn't have double standard policy on deletions. --Anatoli 01:04, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

RFV failed, entry deleted: no citations were provided. —Ruakh TALK 19:16, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

 * Clearly in widespread use in Google and Google books, so should be undeleted, as the term exists and meets the attestation criterion. The attributive-use rule is now obsolete per Votes/pl-2010-05/Names of specific entities. Could be sent to RFD for failing to meet the new regulations for geographic names, but I cannot recommend that. --Dan Polansky 09:54, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd never heard of the place before, so it doesn't seem to be in universal widespread use. There are probably at most a few thousand places that would qualify as universally in widespread use. We need to make sure that the transliterations in our entries are the ones actually in use. Citations in English running text that are on the "use" side of the use-mention distinction would be nice and substantially enhance the value of the entry. Both News (topicality) and Books (literary and historical use) citations seem beneficial. DCDuring TALK 12:15, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems we have a different understanding of "widespread use"; anyway.
 * Some quotations for you from Google books, easy to find by anyone:
 * "After completing his dissertation, Eliashberg found himself in the northern Russian city of Syktyvkar which is, according to"
 * "A clear majority of Syktyvkar respondents supported Komi acquisition of sole, or majority, control of the economic production in the republic."
 * "Soon the tours went so far afield that the performers were away from Syktyvkar for eight or ten months at a time."
 * Hence, here we have a proof that the term meets the attestation criterion of CFI. --Dan Polansky 13:01, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Citations for the place belong at Citations:Syktyvkar. DCDuring TALK 13:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Restored
Added citations provided, restored the entry. Don't we have modified CFI allowing place names? --Anatoli 00:35, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:Syktyvkar


text:
Talk:differential diagnosis

RFV discussion
Rfv-sense: This definition roughly defines "diagnosis", not "differential diagnosis". The current first two definitions should be merged or replaced with a proper definition. The third definition seems okay.
 * The process by which a physician produces a diagnosis that explains a patient's symptoms.

I am not sure whether this belongs to rfv-sense or rfd-sense, and why. --Dan Polansky 10:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

 * This seems like an example of an entry that needs to be upgraded to be fully worthy of a professional dictionary. I don't know what the canons of definition would say about the appropriate number of senses, the need to differentiate process from result, countable from uncountable, general from specific or multi-specific, and similar issues.
 * The fora seem to be WT:TR and the ones to be generated by for topical attention. Cites might help but are not the core of the problem. Cleanup seems to mostly suitable for lower-level issues. Perhaps we could use a new set of semi-diagnostic tags and a new page for "advanced" entry improvement. But I think we really need some more thought on the specific details of writing definitions as opposed to mere glosses or synonyms. DCDuring TALK 16:00, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

RFV failed, sense removed. —Ruakh TALK 00:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:differential diagnosis


text:
Talk:enormously

RFV discussion
Rfv-sense: In an enormous manner. I only think of this as a degree adverb. There's a sense that is something like "outrageously", "shockingly", related to "enormity". I fear many of the -ly adverbs are inadequately or even erroneously defined in this way. DCDuring TALK 02:46, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I don't think I see the difference. e.g. (Google Books) "would add enormously to the value of the remaining houses" (would add in an enormous manner; would add hugely, would be a great addition); "was enormously to the benefit of civilization" (was to the benefit in an enormous manner; gave a huge benefit, was an enormous benefit). What am I missing; what is the rule to tell them apart? Equinox ◑ 03:17, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

 * AFAICT, the difference between manner and degree adverbs is that the second can modify adjectives and, if they are from an adjective "X" are readily defined as "to an X degree". The manner adverbs usually modify verbs. I don't know what "in an enormous manner" would mean apart from "to an enormous degree" (or "shockingly", though that usage is outside my remembered experience). In the second usage above "enormously" modifies the predicate "to the benefit of civilization", interpreted as an adjective. The "to an enormous degree" wording works for the first use also.
 * An adverb like "contentiously" is almost always a manner adverb. I think a sense like "to a contentious (or debatable or disputable) degree" would be rare, though they could occur: "The election results were contentiously close."
 * Perhaps "honestly" is even more rarely a degree adverb. What would "to an honest degree" mean? DCDuring TALK 03:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

 * Okay, then I suppose "in an enormous manner" would only work in a sentence like: "The unruly giant stomped enormously through the city". I haven't really recognised any such distinction to this point, so I am probably responsible for your "many ... inadequate ... adverbs". I remember an earlier spat about "in an X manner" vs. "in an X way", and to be honest I just shut off at that point because it didn't seem to deal with any difference I could comprehend. Equinox ◑ 04:00, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

 * I myself hadn't been aware of the distinction until recently and don't have such a great understanding. Because many dictionaries give most "-ly" adverbs only the equivalent of a related-terms treatment, we don't have much to go on by way of models. Also, the manner definition is very often perfectly adequate and often difficult to beat as the adverb is so rarely used. I have just started an effort in this area and have populated a category with 87 degree adverbs (though I believe there are a few miscategorized or debatable), mostly adverbs not ending in "-ly". I am working through some grammar books lists of illustrations of degree adverbs to develop a sense of the pattern. Also there are synonyms that seem like easy cases. I doubt that this is something that could fruitfully employ many except to review what I am doing. Those that have determiner and phrase PoSs are the ones most likely to be wrong or debatable. If there are problems of any kind with the -ly adverbs It would be nice to know now before I start plowing through the main list of adverbs to locate more (in a few days to a week). DCDuring TALK 12:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

RFV failed, sense removed. —Ruakh TALK 00:11, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:enormously


text:
mustaila

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) weasel

title: mustaila


text:
atto notarile

Noun

 * 1) deed

title: atto notarile


text: ionaid-seallaidh

title: ionaid-seallaidh


text: ionadan-seallaidh

title: ionadan-seallaidh


text: ionaid-bheachd

title: ionaid-bheachd


text: ionadan-beachd

title: ionadan-beachd


text: beachda

title: beachda


text: beachdan

title: beachdan


text:
beachd-smaoin

Noun

 * 1) idea
 * 2) theory

title: beachd-smaoin


text: beachd-smaoine

title: beachd-smaoine


text: beachd-smaointean

title: beachd-smaointean


text:
beachd-smuain

Noun

 * 1) Alternative form of .

title: beachd-smuain


text: beachd-smuaine

title: beachd-smuaine


text: beachd-smuaintean

title: beachd-smuaintean


text:
pàirt-ùine

Adjective

 * 1) part-time

title: pàirt-ùine


text: pàirte

title: pàirte


text:
dead drop

Noun

 * 1)  A location used to secretly transfer items between two people, without requiring them to meet.
 * 2)  The act of leaving an item in such a location for another person to collect.
 * 1)  The act of leaving an item in such a location for another person to collect.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Dutch: dode brievenbus
 * Finnish: kylmä kätkö,
 * French:
 * German:
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian:

Verb

 * 1) To leave at a dead drop for someone else to retrieve.

title: dead drop


text:
live drop

Noun

 * 1)  A location where two people meet to exchange items or information.
 * 2)  An offline data transfer protocol to share information between two devices.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish:
 * French:
 * German:
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian: реа́льная вы́броска

title: live drop


text:
pavement artist

Noun

 * 1) An artist who draws pictures on the pavement, often hoping to get donations from the passers-by.
 * 2)  A specialist in outdoor surveillance as a pedestrian.
 * 1)  A specialist in outdoor surveillance as a pedestrian.

Translations

 * Finnish: katumaalari
 * German: Straßenmaler, Pflastermaler
 * Italian:

 * Finnish:

title: pavement artist


text:
pocket litter

Noun

 * 1)  Items in a spy's pocket (such as ticket stubs and coins) to make their cover seem more authentic.

title: pocket litter


text:
wheel artist

Noun

 * 1)  A specialist in outdoor surveillance in a vehicle.

title: wheel artist


text: inuendo

title: inuendo


text:
łacny

Etymology
, from.

Adjective

 * 1)  easy
 * 2)  kind, friendly
 * 1)  kind, friendly
 * 1)  kind, friendly

title: łacny


text:
Carnivore

Proper noun

 * 1) a computer system designed by the FBI to monitor e-mail and electronic communications

title: Carnivore


text:
eyes-only

Adjective

 * 1)  Meant to be read only, and not discussed, by the named recipient; classified.

Translations

 * Dutch: strikt geheim, strikt vertrouwelijk
 * Finnish: vain silmille
 * French:
 * Russian: то́лько ли́чно

title: eyes-only


text:
ears-only

Adjective

 * 1)  Too secret to be put in writing; only to be transmitted orally.

Translations

 * Finnish: vain korville

title: ears-only


text:
łabęć

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) swan

title: łabęć


text: Category:tr:Virology

title: Category:tr:Virology


text: Category:tr:Microbiology

title: Category:tr:Microbiology


text: Category:tr:Computing

title: Category:tr:Computing


text: การกิน

title: การกิน


text:
non-official cover

Noun

 * 1)  The assumption of a covert role in an organization which does not have ties to the government of the operative in question.

Synonyms

 * NOC

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 非官方臥底
 * Finnish: epävirallinen peiterooli
 * French:
 * Russian:
 * Spanish:

title: non-official cover


text:
การกด

Etymology
🇰🇲

title: การกด


text:
official cover

Noun

 * 1)  A cover which is a position at a governmental agency (e.g. posing as a member of the diplomatic service).

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 官方臥底
 * Finnish: virallinen peiterooli
 * Spanish:

title: official cover


text: การเขียน

title: การเขียน


text:
intelligence asset

Noun

 * 1)  Any resource by means of which intelligence is gathered.

title: intelligence asset


text: การอยู่

title: การอยู่


text: Category:Espionage

title: Category:Espionage


text:
การพูด

Noun

 * : speaking; speech.

title: การพูด


text:
arthrous

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  Of, pertaining to, or being the use of a term together with a grammatical article.
 * 2)  Used with or headed by a grammatical article.
 * 1)  Used with or headed by a grammatical article.

title: arthrous


text:
การเดิน

Noun

 * : walking.

title: การเดิน


text:
การวิ่ง

Etymology
From การ (kaan)+ วิ่ง (wíng).

Noun

 * 1) run.

title: การวิ่ง


text:
burn notice

Noun

 * 1)  An announcement of dismissal of an agent or source which an intelligence agency considers to have become unreliable.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 敗露通知
 * Danish:
 * Finnish:
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian:

title: burn notice


text: การอ่าน

title: การอ่าน


text:
การนอน

Etymology
From.

title: การนอน


text:
ভার্চুয়াল

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) virtual
 * ভার্চুয়াল কীবোর্ড
 * bharcuẇal kiborḑ
 * a virtual keyboard
 * ভার্চুয়াল রিয়ালিটি
 * bharcuẇal riẏêliţi
 * virtual reality

title: ভার্চুয়াল


text: การจีบ

title: การจีบ


text: การดู

title: การดู


text: การเปลี่ยน

title: การเปลี่ยน


text:
Echelon

Proper noun

 * 1) An international SIGINT network to monitor and gather intelligence from satellite trunk communications.

title: Echelon


text: การจ่าย

title: การจ่าย


text: การจับ

title: การจับ


text: การนั่ง

title: การนั่ง


text: cnatain

title: cnatain


text:
ความเข้าใจ

Etymology
From 🇰🇲.

Noun

 * : understanding.

title: ความเข้าใจ


text: การดูแล

title: การดูแล


text:
การยกเลิก

Etymology
From การ (kaan)+ ยกเลิก (yóklôek).

Noun

 * 1) cancellation.

title: การยกเลิก


text:
การยก

Etymology
From การ (kaan)+ ยก (yók).

Noun

 * 1) lifting.

title: การยก


text:
การไป

Noun

 * : going.

title: การไป


text: การนับ

title: การนับ


text:
การได้

Etymology
From.

title: การได้


text:
การพา

Etymology
From.

title: การพา


text: การพบ

title: การพบ


text: การเจอ

title: การเจอ


text: การหา

title: การหา


text: การตาม

title: การตาม


text:
ความสบาย

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) wellness.

title: ความสบาย


text: การลา

title: การลา


text:
Talk:above and beyond

Old Tea room discussion

 * —Nils von Barth (nbarth) (talk) 19:11, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

We currently have this as only a preposition, but one example sentence is "they sure went above and beyond when they were planning this party". Does that mean it's an adverb, too?  —msh210  ℠  18:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I think so. It's used as a predicate (adj.) too. DCDuring TALK 19:22, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

 * I stumbled across this again and split usage examples and added the adverb. I dunno about adjective. DCDuring TALK 14:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

title: Talk:above and beyond


text:
bengáli tigris

Noun

 * 1) Bengal tiger

Declension

 * For the noun, see.
 * The adjective remains unchanged.

title: bengáli tigris


text: BJJ

title: BJJ


text:
Saffy

Proper noun

 * 1) A female given name, diminutive of Saffron.

title: Saffy


text: saframycins

title: saframycins


text:
User:Wōdenhelm

Greetings. I'm mainly active at the Ænglisc Ƿikipǣdia, but my work here will be almost entirely related to putting together a category (67) for Appalachian English terms and phrases.

title: User:Wōdenhelm


text:
Talk:bevy

birds are animals

Larks, quails, & women - & thanks +++ to Semperblotto
Hello, I find in the Webster's & in the Concise Oxford Dic.s, that it was used formerly (15 Th century) for women , & now mainly for birds. Hence the translations. T.y. Arapaima 08:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
 * BTW, Catherine of Medicis had around her a "escadron volant" ("flying squadron") of beautiful young ladies she used to seduce men she wanted to gain over...Arapaima 09:28, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

 * ...& thanks +++ to Semperblotto for fixing my mess Arapaima 09:29, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:bevy


text:
User talk:Wōdenhelm

Murfree
Hi there. I read a great book earlier this year by Mary Murfree, set in the Great Smokey Mountains, and full of dialect words and terms. Quite a lot of them ended up in Wiktionary. Not all of them are dialectal and some are in dialects other than Appalachian, but I thought it might be of interest if you're looking for that sort of thing. < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 20:04, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks. As it stands now, I've been gathering users on Facebook on my Appalachian English user page, and just engaging them, seeing who says what, and in which areas. This would make a nice addition. Wōdenhelm 21:07, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

stob
Hi, just wanted to let you know - I reverted your edit because the entry as it stands now only has a Scottish Gaelic section, and I believe a word shouldn't be categorized under some language without giving our readers its meaning in that language (or at least some other information explaining how the word and the language are connected). If you add the appropriate section there'll of course be no reason not to categorize it as you did. Cheers, --Thrissel 15:01, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I corrected the lack of information by adding its Appalachian English definition, found here, and a citation page for it, found here. I'm new to editing Wiktionary, but am experienced with Wikipedia, so feel free to make corrections of any mistakes. Wōdenhelm 22:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

whar
Please make sure you followed the basic format of an entry. You need at least a part of speech heading and an in-line header (please see my edit). Please read WT:ELE if you are not sure how to edit an entry. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 19:19, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm still new and inexperienced to Wiktionary, but I'll attempt to study proper formatting as best I can. Wōdenhelm 19:31, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * You really need to look at those welcome links - we have quite strict formatting. SemperBlotto 19:37, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

You can now use  at the start of your definition to mark a sense as Appalachian-English-specific. It will automatically categorize the entry in the "Appalachian English" category also. —msh210℠ (talk) 18:27, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thank you. 72.66.206.147 18:44, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

right
The term is of much broader use than Southern US, let alone Appalachian. DCDuring TALK 15:39, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

title: User talk:Wōdenhelm


text: siphuncles

title: siphuncles


text: sniffings

title: sniffings


text: underfurs

title: underfurs


text:
Roaring Meg

Noun

 * 1) A large cannon; specifically, the large 15th cannon at  (more usually called ‘Mons Meg’), or the cannon used to defend [London]derry during the siege of 1688-9.
 * 2)  Any large or impressive thing.
 * 3)  A kind of spinning top.
 * 1)  A kind of spinning top.

title: Roaring Meg


text: Roaring Megs

title: Roaring Megs


text:
underfurred

Adjective

 * 1) Having a layer of underfur.

title: underfurred


text:
spooler

Noun

 * 1)  A device for winding thread onto a spool.
 * 2)  A program or process that spools (places data in a queue to be accessed later)
 * 1)  A program or process that spools (places data in a queue to be accessed later)

Translations

 * Finnish: taustatulostin, jonotusohjelma
 * Italian: gestore code stampa
 * Maori: pūpōkai

title: spooler


text: spoolers

title: spoolers


text:
data-bound

Adjective

 * 1)  Synchronised with a data source by means of data binding.

title: data-bound


text:
Bengál-öböl

Proper noun

 * 1) Bay of Bengal

title: Bengál-öböl


text:
la fermer

Etymology
Elliptical form of

Verb

 * 1)  to shut it, to shut up refrain from speech

Conjugation

 * see

Synonyms

 * se taire

title: la fermer


text:
goatgrass

Noun

 * 1) Any of various wheatlike grasses of the genus Aegilops.

Translations

 * Arabic: دَوْسَر
 * Armenian:
 * Azerbaijani: buğdayıot
 * Catalan: blat bord,
 * Chechen:
 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin: 山羊草
 * Danish:
 * Finnish:
 * French:
 * German: Walch, Walchgras
 * Greek:
 * Ancient: αἰγίλωψ, αἴγιλος
 * Italian: erba delle capre
 * Japanese: エギロプス
 * Kazakh: қылтаншөп
 * Korean: 염소풀속
 * Maltese: brimba
 * Mongolian:
 * Ottoman Turkish: بوغدایجق
 * Persian: گندم‌نیا
 * Polish: twałek, koziook, ościec
 * Russian: коле́нница
 * Serbo-Croatian:
 * Cyrillic: о̏стика
 * Latin:
 * Swedish: bockvete
 * Tajik: бузгандум
 * Turkmen:
 * Uzbek: qasmaldoq

title: goatgrass


text:
fermer sa gueule

Verb

 * 1)  to shut one's mouth; to shut up refrain from speech

Conjugation

 * see

Synonyms

 * se taire

title: fermer sa gueule


text: goatgrasses

title: goatgrasses


text: goatfishes

title: goatfishes


text: bruoj

title: bruoj


text: bruon

title: bruon


text: bruojn

title: bruojn


text: bubaloj

title: bubaloj


text: budaroj

title: budaroj


text: budoj

title: budoj


text: bubalon

title: bubalon


text: budaron

title: budaron


text: budon

title: budon


text: bubalojn

title: bubalojn


text: budarojn

title: budarojn


text: budojn

title: budojn


text: bufedon

title: bufedon


text: bufedojn

title: bufedojn


text: bufedoj

title: bufedoj


text:
ŝteleti

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to pilfer

title: ŝteleti


text: ŝteletu

title: ŝteletu


text: ŝteletus

title: ŝteletus


text: ŝteletos

title: ŝteletos


text: ŝteletis

title: ŝteletis


text: ŝteletas

title: ŝteletas


text:
ŝtelema

Adjective

 * 1) inclined to steal, larcenous

title: ŝtelema


text: ŝtelemaj

title: ŝtelemaj


text: ŝteleman

title: ŝteleman


text: ŝtelemajn

title: ŝtelemajn


text: ĉipan

title: ĉipan


text: ĉipajn

title: ĉipajn


text: ĉipaj

title: ĉipaj


text:
szövő

Etymology
From the stem of.

Adjective

 * 1) weaving

Noun

 * 1) weaver one who weaves

title: szövő


text: szövők

title: szövők


text:
szövőnő

Noun

 * 1)  weaver one who weaves

title: szövőnő


text: szövőnők

title: szövőnők


text:
hote

Etymology
From, , , from , from , from , from , from.

Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬,🇨🇬,🇨🇬. Related to,.

Verb

 * 1)  To command; to enjoin.
 * 2)  To promise.
 * 3)  To be called, be named.
 * 4)  To call, name.
 * 1)  To be called, be named.
 * 2)  To call, name.

Usage notes

 * In the sense of "to command, enjoin", hight may be replaced as follows:
 * The captain hight five sailors stay on the other side of the inlet and guard the cargo. = The captain commanded five sailors to stay on the other side of the inlet and guard the cargo.
 * Beowulf hight his men build a great mead-hall, the kind of which man's progeny should hear tell forever. = Beowulf commanded his men to build a great mead-hall, the kind of which man's progeny should hear tell forever.

 * The word survives only as part of the oral tradition in rural Scotland and Northern England. It is no longer used in common speech.

title: hote


text:
Talk:hote

The previous entry of same title was moved from Middle English to hoten. This entry is the Early Modern English descendant of the Middle English form. Leasnam 21:44, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

title: Talk:hote


text:
malriĉulo

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a poor person

title: malriĉulo


text: malriĉulon

title: malriĉulon


text: malriĉuloj

title: malriĉuloj


text: malriĉulojn

title: malriĉulojn


text:
unu la alian

Phrase

 * 1) one another, each other

Usage notes
When used with verbs that call for prepositions, the relevant preposition is inserted after "unu" and the accusative is omitted if not required:

title: unu la alian


text: Luteron

title: Luteron


text: luteranoj

title: luteranoj


text: luteranon

title: luteranon


text: luteranojn

title: luteranojn


text: luteranaj

title: luteranaj


text: luteranan

title: luteranan


text: luteranajn

title: luteranajn


text:
kristano

Noun

 * 1)  a Christian

title: kristano


text: kristanon

title: kristanon


text: kristanojn

title: kristanojn


text: kristanoj

title: kristanoj


text: inferse

title: inferse


text:
半透明

Adjective

 * 1) translucent; semitransparent

Adjective

 * 1) translucent, semitransparent

title: 半透明


text:
不透明

Adjective

 * 1) opaque not allowing light to pass through
 * 2) not transparent not open to public scrutiny

Adjective

 * 1) opaque

Noun

 * 1) opacity

title: 不透明


text:
hoție

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) robbery, theft

title: hoție


text: agèd

title: agèd


text:
бирманский

Adjective

 * 1) Burmese

title: бирманский


text: bukedoj

title: bukedoj


text: bukedon

title: bukedon


text: bukedojn

title: bukedojn


text: bukloj

title: bukloj


text: bukoj

title: bukoj


text: bulboj

title: bulboj


text: buljonoj

title: buljonoj


text: bulkoj

title: bulkoj


text: bukon

title: bukon


text: bulbon

title: bulbon


text: buklon

title: buklon


text: buklojn

title: buklojn


text: bukojn

title: bukojn


text: buljonon

title: buljonon


text: bulkon

title: bulkon