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To heck with the density of Tethys, I want to know more about this "telnet HORIZONS System"! Is there a Wikipedia page for it yet? If not, got a link handy where I could find out about it? -- John Owens 23:06 May 5, 2003 (UTC)
 * No 'pedia page (yet); WWW is at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/horizons.html; telnet is just: telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775

Looxix, thanks for merging the Kung Fu/Gong Fu and Wu Shu/Wushu articles --synthetik 03:58 May 11, 2003 (UTC)
 * my pleasure, I just feared that I took your job :-) -- Looxix 04:01 May 11, 2003 (UTC)

duplicated articles to duplicate articles... Martin -- No offense, but could you add an interlanguage link as minor edit? I don't think many people think your change may be wrong. -- Taku 01:31 18 May 2003 (UTC)
 * Oops sorry. -- Looxix 01:36 18 May 2003 (UTC)

 * Should interlang links not be at the bottom? I read that if it's at the top is shows in search engine summaries, instead of the first sentences of the article which is much more useful. - Jeandré, 2003-06-22t20:44z
 * I have never seen any rules about the placement of the interwikis links, except that they are normally placed on top. But maybe this have changed since may, in fact I am not really active here anymore, only on the french wiki. The only edit that I made here are the interwikis and some obvious typos that I discover when I translate some articles. If there is any recommendation about the placement of the interwikis links, let me know please so that I can do the right thing. -- Looxix 21:49 22 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Looxix, great job! I will look into it soon, hopefully tomorrow or saturday, thanks so far. Erik Zachte 00:15, 15 Aug 2003 (UTC)

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Quelle tristesse, quand je vois que tu retires tous mes beaux liens, a tous mes futurs beaux articles, que je pourrais ecrire si j avais pas a me faire c...... a refaire tout l' !
 * Ah, c'était de toi; en fait, j'ai pensé un moment que ça pouvait être les tiens. C'est en cherchant un article sur en: pour lier avec Zone tropicale humide que je suis tombé dessus et j'ai vu que des liens vers fr: existaient déjà, mais en vérifiant, j'ai vu que ces articles n'existaient pas. Je les ai donc retirer, comme ce n'est pas l'usage de faire des link vers des articles inexistant. Si tu veux je les remets.
 * Rapport A*****e, je doute que ça va le calmer pendant longtemps, je ne sais pas si tu as vu, mais peu de temps après tes premières versions il s'est un peu défoulé sur le Bistro. Que fera-t'il ensuite? Je t'avoue que toute cette histoire et l'ambiance malsaine qui en découle m'ôte toute envie de faire du travail un peu sérieux; dire que je suis passé sur fr: car j'ai trouvé que l'ambiance était excellente! -- Looxix 23:59, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * C'est une question de principe loo. Il a raison sur certains aspects. Bon, j ai fini ma prose (il reste des bidules, mais bon). Je viens de virer les micros edits de vincent, car je n avais pas le courage de tout merger, qd j ai fait un conflit d edit au dernier save. Va admirer ! Commente ! Encense !

 * Oui, je sais qu'il a raison sur certain point du contenu mais il aussi énormément tort sur le contenu et sur le comportement. PLusieurs versions où il est intervenu en beuglant comme en veau étaient déjà très neutre. Pour tes changements, oui j'aime assez; je me demande juste combien de temps ça va durer.

 * Ses opposants ont tout aussi tort sur le comportement. Et certains ont aussi tort sur le contenu. Loo, c'est fait expres, pour nous faire réagir, pour mettre en évidence nos faiblesses, nos erreurs, ne t y trompes pas. Regarde d'au dessus, essaye de t abstraire. Regarde et analyse la démarche. Lis attentivement la page NPOV test, surtout la fin. La dernière série sur "comment faire taire un adversaire" est passionnante. Regarde bien aussi la liste d'extrait de point de vue sur le NPOV : tu réaliseras que nous ne parlons pas de la même chose, nous tous. Il y a aussi des pistes de résolution de conflit a explorer. Vois l'épreuve comme un apprentissage. Je suis assez optimiste pour ma version. Elle changera bien sur, il manque encore des choses, mais sur le fond, je suis assez sure de moi. Sinon, je vais brailler :-))))

 * Et moi, je vais faire dodo. Merde, quand je pense que je voulais m occuper de la promotion... soupir
 * Bonne nuit ... et pour tes liens je fais quoi?
 * bof, rien, tant pis :-)

PP3
If you want to translate the constellation maps, please download the [http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pp3/pp3-1.3.2.tar.bz2?download source distribution].

Everything takes place in the subdirectory examples. You should use sed for substituting French names for the Latin ones. You create a text table like

s/Andromeda/Andromède/ s/.../.../ ...

and then sed translates all files with one call. Don't forget things like "Coalsack" or "Pleiades". And watch out for words that become multi-words with spaces inbetween, because they must be enclosed with quotes.

Next, adjust wiki.pp3 to your needs, change colours, line widths etc. After that one "make" call will create all maps and will create thumbnails when necessary. A bunch of PNGs is the result. They will contain some mistakes (e.g. too wide labels or missing translations) that you can amend now.

Finally make a zip file of your new files and send it to me. I will include the French version to the distribution as a patch file of the English version, which needs not much space and means that the French version will profit from improvements of the English one.

Please note that all this becomes very much simpler if you have access to a Linux system. If the only problem is the actual creation of the maps, I can call PP3 for you.

The created maps are free of any copyright, you can use your own. It would be kind however if you mentioned PP3 on the description page. -- Torsten Bronger 16:45, 15 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Hi Torsten, yes will one of these day translate for PP3; but for the moment I'm a bit short of time. I don't think I will have problems for the translation I know enough of TeX & LaTeX, dvips and so on. For the moment, on fr: I have used only one map Andromède (constellation).
 * BTW, I really like your PP3. See you. -- Looxix

 * I created a translation table. Maybe you can recruit some helpers.

Interlanguage links
No, I think a copy of all that might be confusing. Here are the main points of the discussion; Angela

The guidelines say that putting them "at the top is conventional" but it is suggested that this is problematic because
 * it floods the edit box.
 * the links may be confusing for new editors (although this can be solved by explaining them in the how to edit page)
 * the links may show up in search results, particularly for pages that have the same title in more than one language.

The majority of them are at the top currently. If two people put them in a different place on the same page, they may appear unalphabetically. If a change is going to be made, it needs to be made across Wikipedias. It may be possible to have a bot reposition them.
 * Yes, I know this (personnaly, I favor the actual situation of putting them at top, mostly because I'm used to), but I want to inform the reader of the ML of the discussion.

 * Maybe the above summary of discussion with a link to the whole thing might be best? Angela

beur = arabe en verlan (via a-ra-b-e -> be-ra- -> beur).

bonne idée à ajouter

Je ne sais pas si c'est le cas en France, mais en Belgique le terme plus 'politicaly correct/neutre' pour arabe (dans certains sens utilisés dans l'article) est 'maghrébin' (vu l'origine en général).

je vais ajouter ce point ds la page de discussion.

on ne parle pas du fait que un certain nombre (grand? moyen? minoritaire?) de 'arabe/musulman/...' en France/Belgique/Europe sont très bien intégrés (dans le sens socio-culturellement peu ou pas distingables des indigènes).

grand j'espère :-)

c est un article a trous. Il y a bcp de choses a mettre. Toujours laisser qlq chose d evident pour qn d autre emplir

bon, la lenteur du serveur est horrible pour regarder les images :-((((
 * Oui, je vient d'avoir une page qui a mise 20 minutes pour être sauvegardée!!! Ca va mieux maintenant. (j'espère vraiment que le nouvel hardware reglera ces problèmes mais j'ai un mauvais sentiment persistant).

You may have forgotten that you made a draft for Oxygen burning process. Could you go back to it and make it understandable? :) Kingturtle 00:34, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
 * Bbbubut but it was 5 months ago! OK I promise I will do it but not in the firts weeks. See you. -- Looxix 18:02, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Merging pages
Basically, delete page A, move page B to page A, undelete page A and then check the history to revert to the right version.

How to rename (move) a page might help. Be careful. It can not be undone! Angela

MSG substitutes a message as the page is viewed. For example writing in an article will produce "Wiki software successfully installed" when the page is viewed. does the same thing, except the text is substituted as the page is saved, similar to ~ signatures. should substitute the message as the page is viewed, just like, except that the text is displayed as if it were surrounded by <nowiki> tags. That feature doesn't actually work at the moment, although I'll probably fix it soon enough.

See also this wikitech-l post. -- Tim Starling 23:22, Oct 26, 2003 (UTC)
 * OK thanks for the info. -- Looxix

les bras m'en tombent vraiment Loo. Je te souhaite bonne chance pour ce panier de crabe. Je ne comprend pas vraiment ce que j'ai pu faire d'aussi infame, mais il semble que tout serait entièrement de ma faute.

Finalement, il faudrait changer la page de politique de blocage, et indiquer que tout sysop est le bienvenu pour bloquer qui il souhaite, sans avoir a en referer a quiconque. Car finalement, si l'on ne bloque pas un utilisateur inapproprié, on est forcément coupable, les insultes viennent de notre propre bouche. A partir du moment ou cela est posé, il n'y a plus rien a dire, le processus wiki n existe plus et celui qui tentera d'être un médiateur ds un conflit est un salaud. Triste situation.

quand on est forcement un salaud.(par) mais c'est moi !

 * non, en l'occurence, je ne parlais que de moi (pas de toi, ni de papotages) mais j'ai utilisé le terme masculin, car salope a une autre signification que salaud; pas celle que je voulais donner. C'est assez d'avis que je pratique la censure, que je fais du terrorisme intellectuel; en plus, j'empêche de bloquer les vandales. terrible hein ? Tseee, mauvaise fille va :-)

 * Très heureux que tu ne parlais pas de Papotages ou de moi, j'ai supprimé ce que j'avais rajouté humoristiquement, çà pouvait alors aller, mais maintenant vraiment pas du tout ce serait complètement déplacé. :-)

Cher Looxix, après longue réflexion, j'ai décidé de réitérer ma demande de l'autre jour concernant mon éradication wikipédienne, je te fais confiance pour quelle soit la plus totale et la plus rapide possible. J' ai gêné, donc je dégage c'est aussi simple que cela ! Je suis sincèrement désolé du travail que je te demande. Je te renouvelle mes remerciements pour tout.

Je te dis adieu mais pas sur le ton antherien auquel j'ai eu droit l'autre jour, cela va sans dire.

Pour terminer sur une note gaie, crois-tu que je sois écologiste ?

 * Eslios, le terme ecologiste ne recouvre pas la meme realité que le terme ecologist :-) Ce sont de faux amis. Anthère

Le ton anthérien pense un jour sur deux qu'il va laisser tout ce beau petit monde se démerder tout seul. Après tout, bloquons bloquons bloquons et admirons le résultat. Evitons de nous poser des questions. Fuyons les problèmes. C'est plus simple. Moi, je serais ailleurs. Et toi Eslios, tu ferais bien mieux de revenir.

Message [la-bas], merci.

Reading Nikolai Ivanovich Lobachevsky, I noticed much of the text was the same on. As you are the user listed as posting this text, I wanted to ask you about it. Obviously the two pages have some identical text. How did this come to be?
 * Mmmm, indeed. This is the first real article that I wrote on wikipedia more than 15 months ago. At this time I didn't knew much about the subtilities on copyright and yes I used this text as basis for the article and most probably I used too much from it. I'm very sorry for the inconvenience; please do whatever you think is appropriate. -- Looxix 19:36, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Steward: Thanks :-)
Hi Looxix,

I have not yet had the chance to get to know you more, but thank you nevertheless for the trust you gave me by giving me your vote for Steward. I feel very honored.

If you ever see me doing something you disagree, please let me know. I always want to learn, to improve.

Thanks a lot :-) Fantasy 20:02, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Hi Fantasy,

You gained my vote after your suggestion to make the discussions on meta instead of by emails; I was thinking the same thing. So, I said to myself this can't be a bad guy. :-)

See you,
 * -- Looxix

Steward Election : Congratulations!
Congratulations to you, Looxix, on your election to the position of Steward. I don't know you very well, but I've heard enough about you to be very pleased to see you on board. I look forward to seeing you about. David Cannon 23:35, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
 * Hi David, thanks for your support. Yes, we don't know really each other (I just know you by name), alas I dont' really edit on the the english wikipedia anymore (there is already so much things to do on the french one. See you. -- Looxix

Perseus
Bonjour Looxix, Ravi de constater que tu fais également partie du wiki anglais :-) J'ignore si j'ai bien agi, mais j'aimerais bien avoir ton avis sur ce qui suit. Raul654 a déplacé Perseus (mythology) vers Perseus. Je me suis permis de lui faire un message sur sa page de discussion. Comme je n'ai aucun statut d'admin, j'ai quelquefois peur d'aller trop loin dans mes interventions, mais il y a des fois où la logique l'emporte sur la peur. J'aimerais ton opinion, ou encore si tu préfères, que tu donnes suite à mon intervention sur la page de cet utilisateur. Merci. Robin des Bois ♘ ➳ ✉ 05:20, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Salut Robin, he oui j'ai commencè à contribuer ici avant fr:, mais comme je ne me considère plus vraiment comme un contributeur ici, j'estime que je n'ai plus vraiment de raison d'y donner mon avis. Toutefois, personnellement, je pense que:
 * les pages d'homonymies, c'est bien!
 * créer une ambiguité quand des pages de désambiguation existaient déjà, c'est un peu stupide; il y a des choses plus intéressantes/importantes à faire.
 * casser/âbimer des liens et des pages de suivis, c'est mal!
 * tu peux être certain que tôt ou tard, il y aura d'autres articles avce le nom Perseus (une pièce de théâtre?, un bateau? un vasseau spatial?)
 * Donc oui, je suis pour remettre la page à sous son ancien nom.
 * A+ -- Looxix 20:40, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Merci, c'est ce que j'avais besoin de savoir. Je serais ravi de le faire, mais le problème est qu'il n'est pas si facile de reverter dans ces situations. Je suis incapable de déplacer Perseus vers Perseus (mythology) puisque ce dernier est un redirect. J'ai cru comprendre que tu es maintenant Steward. Penses-tu alors que tu peux me donner un coup de pouce en effectuant le déplacement (en fait, le même que tu avais fait l'an dernier) ? Moi, je me charge des quelques liens la page d'homonymie. Merci encore.
 * Désolé je ne peux pas faire ça, je ne suis pas sysop ici (en tant que steward j'ai uniquement le droit de donner le statut de sysop sur les wikis sans bureaucrate et après qu'il y a eu un accord/demande de la communauté du wiki; sans cet accord je n'ai aucun droit). Perso, je laisserait tomber ce truc; il y a tellement de chose intéressante à créer et tôt ou tard les choses seront pour le mieux. Bonne chance et A+ -- Looxix

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started the Free the Rambot Articles Project which has the goals of getting users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to... using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) version 1.0 and 2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to the GFDL (which every contribution made to Wikipedia is licensed under), but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles (See the Multi-licensing Guide for more information). Since you are among the top 1000 most active Wikipedians, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles.
 * 1) ...all U.S. state, county, and city articles...
 * 2) ...all articles...

 * Nutshell: Wikipedia articles can be shared with any other GFDL project but open/free projects using the incompatible Creative Commons Licenses (e.g. WikiTravel) can't use our stuff and we can't use theirs. It is important to us that other free projects can use our stuff.  So we use their licenses too.

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the   template (or    for public domain) into their user page, but there are other templates for other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace   with   . If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know at my talk page what you think. -- Ram-Man 18:06, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)

Untagged Images
Can you tell me how often the Untagged Images lists are updated or, what the current state of this project is. A sample of 1 shows it was generated on the 26th August. There is now a small posse of wikipedeans using the lists and, ideally, we'd be working from fiarly current lists. Any onfo you could let me have would be most appreciated. --Tagishsimon (talk)

déblocage
Bonjour Looxix, j'ai présenté mes excuses à Utilisateur:Hégésippe_Cormier pour mes diverses blagues. Peux-tu s'il te plaît maintenant me débloquer sur FR ? (sachant que je souhaite de nouveau contribuer sérieusement, sous mon login initial (Utilisateur:Kexexa), qui actuellement est lui aussi bloqué) Merci d'avance. Utilisateur:Ehj'aizappé_l'Crémier alias Kexexa 08:37, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Bon, tout d'abord merci d'avoir pris la peine de me répondre (contrairement à Hégésippe Cormier).

Primo, je voudrais te dire que ta première "excuse" à Hégésippe est très loin d'être délicate: pourquoi doner le prénom alors que sur le wiki ont a un login, Hégésippe n'a jamais fait mystère de son prénom, il suffit de connaître son ancien login (que tous les « anciens » connaissent, chez Wikipédia), ou tout simplement le logo qui orne sa page d'utilisateur actuelle. Bon, j'aurais dû l'appeler Hégésippe, pour faire plus officiel.

parler d'"obstruction permanente" alosr que ce terme s'applique aussi bien à toi, ... Avec du recul, disons que nos positions étaient inconciliables sur divers sujets ("Louis XVII", Guillaumine, etc.), ce qui est paradoxal alors que nous avons une sympathie commune (voir ci-dessous).

Et je ne ferai qu'évoquer l'ironie qui semble sortir de ce texte, dont le "Et puis surtout ta sympathie pour une personne qui m'est chère plus que toute autre". Aucune ironie là-dedans, une grande sincérité au contraire, la personne en question est un certain Louis de B., puisqu'il faut le préciser.

Secondo, au sujet de Djaunedrec & Djaunenedrec, sache tout d'abord que les sysops ne savent pas changer les mots de passe, les infos que tu avais donner concernant les dates et heures d'utilisation de ces comptes étaient fausses (c'est facile de vérifier dans le contributions de ces login). Non, je n'ai donné aucune fausse info. On tentait de me mener en bateau, et j'ai au contraire rétabli tous les faits dans leur exactitude.

De plus "mon pseudo a été modifié par un sysop en Utilisateur:Djaunenedrec" ne veut rien absolument rien dire et si tu veux dire par là que tu as utilisé le login "Djaunedrec" avec le mot de passe associé et que tu t'es retrouvé loggué sous "Djaunenedrec" (dont le mot de passe est différent) et que par hasard tu en as déviné le mot de passe (puisque tu as utilisé ce compte) et bien c'est complètement fantaisiste comme hypothèse. Quand de plus tu mentionnes la ligne suivante que tu as du recréer le compte "Djaunedrec" .... As-tu une explication plus claire de ce qu'il s'est passé ? Au vu ce cette situation, ton comportement à l'époque, insultes comprises, c'est de toi qu'on attend encore les excuses. Après avoir un peu râlé à l'époque j'en suis vite venu à prendre cette affaire pour ce qu'elle était : une bonne grosse blague de potache, tout comme mes petits utilisateurs marionnettes "Le Quadra Suresnois", "Ma'ame Cormier", "M'sieu Cormier", "Hégésippe Michu", "M'sieu Michu" et "Ehj'aizappé l'Crémier". Aujourd'hui je lève le voile et présente mes sincères excuses à Hégésippe Cormier, pour avoir moi aussi fait le potache. Je vais tout expliquer, ce qui a déclenché mon énervement c'est son insistance à me qualifier de "réincarnation" d'un autre utilisateur, en me traitant en plus de cinglé (pour cette insulte, voir ici, le 9 novembre). À l'époque je n'avais pas encore pigé qu'Hégésippe Cormier n'était autre que Ma'ame Michu. C'est quand Oly a dit ça que j'ai eu l'idée de faire mes petites blagues avec les Michu et les Cormier. Voilà, tout simplement. Encore une fois je présente mes excuses pour ces utilisateurs marionnettes humoristiques.

Au sujet de l'affaire Djaunedrec/Djaunenedrec, si je n'étais pas sûr de moi pourquoi maintiendrais-je ma version des faits ? Je n'en veux nullement à l'auteur de cette blague, simplement par souci de vérité je répète qu'il y a bien eu blague, de la part d'un sysop (ou admin, ou développeur, je ne sais pas à quel niveau ça s'est situé). J'avais créé un Djaunedrec, et le lendemain toutes ses contribs étaient devenues "signées" Djaunenedrec, et Djaunedrec n'existait plus, et son mot de passe fonctionnait sur Djaunenedrec. Donc du coup j'ai dû créer un autre Djaunedrec, avec forcément un nouveau mot de passe. J'ai râlé à l'époque, je le reconnais, mais c'est compréhensible vu qu'on tentait de me faire passer pour un menteur. Mais je veux bien présenter mes excuses pour avoir râlé.

Tierto, écrire "ne prends pas ce projet trop au sérieux, car il coulera un jour (comme d'autres projets gratuits d'Internet) et après tu regretteras d'avoir perdu des centaines d'heures sur ce truc" est très explicite sur ta motivation à revenir sur le wikipédia francophone. C'est seulement qu'Hégésippe Cormier passe des centaines d'heures sur le Wiki, et ça me rappelle que dans le passé j'ai aussi passé un temps fou sur d'autres projets gratuits et participatifs qui ont fini par couler. Mais je souhaite tout de même participer de nouveau à la Wikipédia francophone, mais pas à forte dose comme notre ami. Simplement participer sur quelques sujets sur lesquels j'ai beaucoup d'infos à apporter. Or je vois que tu maintiens mon blocage... Kexexa 11:54, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Images and tables
Hi. I saw that you placed the list of images without tags on Yann's page. I am considering starting a similar project for replacing HTML table syntax with wiki table syntax. I was wondering if this was possible and, if it were, whether you would be able to procur a list of such pages for me. Thanks a lot. Smoddy (t) (e) (c) 17:50, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

MBot
Um... Sorry to bother you but, it doesn't seem that MBot went through any of the proper channels... -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Nevermind... I checked the archives. -- AllyUnion (talk) 11:21, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin
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Please check your WP:NA entry
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 * 3) Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Please check HD 10307
I created info page for HD 10307 and it is not complete yet. I would apprecite your feedback.

Siddiqui 20:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

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Wikipedia's Expert Peer Review process (or lack of such) for Science related articles
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Hi - seen WikiProject Albums? Secretlondon 13:14, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've seen it. I'll see if I can spend some time later fitting "my" albums within that format. Mortene 14:57, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav

Hello! I reverted some vandalism from Suffragette, and I think one of your edits got caught in the crossfire, but I can't seem to find it. Could you have a look and see if anything's missing? 81.105.48.31 00:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but it is oke, my small contribution remains. Ellywa 10:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, I came here through the Dutch wiki, where I am currently kindof addicted to. Its nice!

Hoi. Bedankt voor je welkom. Kan jij me vertellen of de inlognamen van de Nederlandse en de Engelse versie op de een of andere manier gerelateerd (kunnen) zijn? Dolf

Bedankt voor je welkom. Ik zal waarschĳnlĳk niet veel in NL wikipedia komen, maar heb alvast mĳn username daar aangemaakt. Darkelf 10:45, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)

Please check again your historical atlas. In 1686 Danzig was a biggest city of Polish Province of Royal Prussia, and this didn't change until 1793. Thanks in advance. Cautious 12:57, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * For who does not understand this: Cautious is talking about Gabriel Fahrenheit, where an edit war is going on. Ellywa 17:52, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

We need an article about the neologism spum, which (according to the article) won't appear on the internet until next month? -- Wondering simply, Infrogmation 04:11, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks, correction made. Ellywa 11:00, 26 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Believe me, I didn't mean to do that, I was just thinking in English too much. I'll have to go round and fix the Interwiki links, since I did it in the other languages I signed up for as well! Thanks for listing things on the Dutch VfD. David Newton 06:11, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Why do you delete the thumbnails from the constellation entries? – Torsten Bronger 00:44, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * The "tumbnails" were no real thumbnails, bur redirects to larger images. I replaced them, because the interwiki robot could not upload them automatically. I think I changed only one. I am now hoping the robot will be debugged. If you don't like it, it may be reverted (I saw you did this already). My apologies if I caused any inconvenience. Ellywa 01:13, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Could you please put a more descriptive caption on the image you added to birefringence? Thanks. —Steven G. Johnson 03:58, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)

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Bedankt voor je welkom! groetjes, Sietse 21:09, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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Interwiki for Thai cities
Recently you add Interwiki links for Thai cities. However the dutch article you link is a disambiguation page, while the German or English one are about the city. Thus I had to remove the links again. andy 22:05, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Sorry and thank you for restoring this. I am currently adding many links to dutch wikipedia, I try to avoid mistakes, but it is sometimes inevitable. Ellywa 16:18, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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Have you applied for permission to run your interwiki bot? I don't see anything about it on Bots. --Carnildo 05:25, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, I did, please note Wikipedia_talk:Bots below on that page. I thought I could the run the bot while permission is pending? Is this correct? Ellywa 05:32, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'd missed that. It would probably be a good idea to stop the bot, at least until it gets approved for a proper test run.  We've had trouble recently with interwiki bots accidentally removing potentially thousands of interwiki links. --Carnildo 05:57, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I do not see the need for that now. I have run the same bot from this account, Ellywa, for many 1000's of changes without any comments. The only difference is the name of the user. Please look into my "User contributions" and take a stance after that. Ellywa 06:00, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 * You may run your bot for a full duration of one week, to prove the burden of proof that the bot is: harmless, useful, and not a server hog. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:50, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello. RobotE is now flagged as a bot. If you ever need this flag removed, please ask at requests for permissions. Angela. 09:39, May 31, 2005 (UTC)
 * HI, thank you very much Angela, in behalf of all who don't want the bot in the Recent changes. Ellywa 05:33, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Dear Ellywa, after looking the contributions under User:RobotE, I'm very impressed. Congratulations for receiving the bot status flag for the account.  Please understand that my replies on Wikipedia talk:Bots was not meant to be harsh or go against your bot in any matter.  You must understand that FlaBot caused some damage with its edits which remained unnoticed for sometime.  Therefore, I was attempting to be careful and making sure that nothing bad happened.  Although you made edits under User:Ellywa, there was no prior request for the status.  Certainly, we can accept your proof with your edits under User:Ellywa, but it is far better to make certain that whatever code you are running is run under the account you say you are going to run.  I apologize if I had caused any trouble for you, but I wished only the best for the Wikipedia.  Thank you. -- AllyUnion (talk) 09:01, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi AllyUnion, Of course I understand you have to be carefull and as I am not a regular contributor here you are not aware of my intentions and the way I work at NL wikipedia. No hard feelings at all. Keep up the good work for the good of Wikipedia, Regards, Ellywa 10:16, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

RobotE's edit to Tarsier (and likely other pages) was marked as modifying the ja and nl interwiki links, but it also modified the he link. I'm not sure if you intended this or noticed it, or if it worked correctly. — The Storm Surfer 01:12, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Mashhad
Hi, thank you for your message. I didn't know Wolley was from the Dutch WP and creating problems there. The website he is linking to is actually Persian. The information he wants to add to the article is totally inappropriate since these events are covered elsewhere in much more specific detail and within the proper context. See Judicial system of Iran, for instance. He also has a very definite POV as he is stating that they are homosexual when there is no evidence of this (they were convicted of raping a boy). The only way I see of dealing with him is taking the case to ArbCom. What are your thoughts? SouthernComfort 00:52, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Correction: it seems that he is from the German WP - he has been involved with the article there as well. ] The image he uploaded there was also deleted it seems, as it was here (he took it from another website). SouthernComfort 03:04, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki links for categories
Hello I noticed RobotE is working on the wikilinks between articles of different languages. Is there any plan to work on categories too? Thanks. :-) — Instantnood 13:05, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Personally I have no plans, but I will try an automatic run. Usually I only put new links starting from new articles on Dutch wikipedia. Ellywa 10:25, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
 * Hello, I've seen that RobotE has been adding wikilinks to categories such as Category:1991 births. As you can see, this makes for a pretty nasty page, since the interwiki is already included in the template of which the page is made up. Would you mind reversing these changes? Thank you Sam Vimes 20:48, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
 * My sincere apologies, I put a request for help from an administrator here: Vandalism in progress. And of course I stopped the bot. Ellywa 21:11, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I fixed dagger
I fixed the dagger on your front user page, so it looks like a dagger, not just a cross.

hope you don't mind.--GordonWattsDotCom 10:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

PS: Here's the raw link to the diff -which was on 10:26, 31 August 2005:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Ellywa&diff=22242074&oldid=21589400

 * Thank you very much, you are very helpfull. I want to prepare an article about this in Dutch wikipedia, but there is need to do more research. Ellywa 21:02, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

 * You are welcome. Well, I am glad I could help, but now I am going to remove your page from my watchlist, so if you replied again, I would not see it. Have a nice day.--GordonWattsDotCom 09:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Appeal
Hello. Can your bot help with one issue? The issue is double-interwikis in "births" and "deaths" categories (for example look at Category:1983 deaths and Category:1847 births). Some of the interwikis are already in the "birthyr" and "deathyr" templates. - Darwinek 10:55, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

 * I would be glad to help, but there is currently no solution. I have asked bot developer Andre Engels, but it is complicated he says. Ellywa 07:15, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Lakshadweep
Hello,

Did you remove Kiltan island from the inhabited islands list? If so what is the reason for removal. It is one among inhabited islands. Noorul 14:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I am not aware I did such thing the last few days, of even before, Ellywa 19:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

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Greetings, editor! Your name appears on List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct: Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 04:10, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
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 * 2) If you are currently interested in being considered for adminship, please be sure your name is in bold; if you are opposed to being considered for adminship, please cross out your name (but do not delete it, as it will automatically be re-added in the next page update).
 * 3) Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.
 * Thanks, I have been on a long-time wikibreak, but made my name bold today. Ellywa 07:33, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!
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Eiland
I have nominated Eiland for deletion, you may leave a vote and a comment on its deletion here. -- E ivindt@c 07:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. Ellywa 08:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Ellywa/testarticle
This really ought to be a User: subpage, not in the main article namespace. (And you might want to consider what it says in WP:CONTEXT before proceeding further with this idea.) --Russ Blau (talk) 21:34, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Sorry, this was a mistake, I renamed it into User:Ellywa/testarticle. Can you please delete the redirect, I never know how to list a page for speedy deletion down here. Thank you for telling me. My suggestion is to make no links at all anymore, never, exept maybe for combined terms, but to link automatically if somebody wants to know more about any word or term. Guidelines such as context you mentioned are not effective (at least not at NL wikipedia) because people keep always going on with adding links.... Today somebody made a link to an old aunt of mine, just a very ordinary although nice person. Only because she is the mother of somebody... Just because the name is there, the link is made. It happens all the time. Ellywa 05:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

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I noticed that Image:Dagobertduck.gif is marked as GFDL, but that tag was added by another user, RedWolf. Could you please verify that you have released this image under the GFDL? —Remember the dot (talk) 03:17, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, this is correct, I confirmed this on the image page. Ellywa 17:50, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks. —Remember the dot (talk) 05:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Idea
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Spum
deleted article about spum

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Use of dagger † (From Wikipedia:Help desk)
At the Dutch wikipedia we are having a discussion regarding the dagger † in front of the date a person has died. Did you have any discussions about this here, and where and why did you decide not to use this sign? I cannot find any discussions about it, maybe in some archive. It would be helpful if you can point it out. Thanks, Ellywa 22:40, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I see no reason to, and never heard of anyone proposing this. Millions of these little crosses would need to be used, and personally I would be against since it doesn't refer to anything except some lame religious symbols. Elfguy 23:10, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * It's not a "lame religious symbol" - by which presumably you mean a cross - it's a dagger. (Most computer fonts don't display the difference very well, but if you paste it into Word or the like, switch to something like Times New Roman, and blow it up, you can clearly see the "daggerness"). It's a standard typographical character - the second conventional marker for a footnote (the series goes * asterisk, † dagger, ‡ double dagger).
 * Whilst the original use of the symbol was to indicate a cross - it was used in printing religious liturgies, and signalled the priest to make the sign of the cross during the reading - it became quickly secularised, probably in order that they wouldn't have to worry about using a religious symbol in a secular text. Dagger it is and has been for centuries.
 * Use of a dagger to indicate "deceased" is rare in English, but certainly not unknown - I have a copy of the Oxford University Press compositors' handbook next to me, which mentions it, though it holds that it should be prefixed to the name (so, eg, †Churchill). It's only really valid in some highly specific contexts - for example, in a list of names, where it's useful to note which ones are dead but you don't want to go into detail. It is, though, a perfectly acceptable if obscure use with no particular religious significance. There's also a similar standard use for philology, where a dagger prefixed to a word means that it's obsolete.
 * For the original question - I'd discourage its use without a particular reason, and certainly discourage adding it to all death-dates in a biography. Shimgray 23:50, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * If it was intended to be a dagger it would look like one. It looks like a cross, and thus is intended to be religious in nature, therefore has no place here. Religious arguments are restricted to Religion related articles, Nintendo related material is left to Nintendo related articles, and so on. I don't want a cross on every article mentioning anyone who ever lived, same as I don't want an image of Mario Bross everywhere. Elfguy 00:37, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Some fonts represent it in a way such that it looks like a cross - some fonts also represent the characters "l", "1" and "I" identically, but this doesn't make the letter l "intended to be a number".
 * Your argument is just silly, because it does look like a dagger - in some fonts one stylised into being simple (since, lets face it, how much detail can you put in one-pixel-thick Courier?), in some fonts a very ornately stylised one. (see Image:Daggers.png for a set of examples) Typographical symbols are stylised by their very nature, and this is much more recognisable than most - does a pound sign look like "lb"? does an ampersand look like someone writing "et"? No-one really knows what an at-sign originally represented, but this doesn't stop people using it to mean "at" - you'd certainly not get very far claiming it looks like a snail so it represents a snail.
 * It's a valid literary use. It's not part of some super-secret religious conspiracy to infiltrate Christian symbols into people's writing - are you going to argue next that half of all books using footnotes are filled with religious symbols because they use daggers?
 * I'm not claiming we should use it on wiki - I personally think it's messy, and biographical articles aren't a good place for it even were it in common use - but spurious anti-religious objections don't help anyone. Shimgray 01:10, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * The German wikipedia does this. I suspect that it sounds horrible on a blind user's screen reader, and the trivial gain for sighted users doesn't seem worthwhile to me. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 23:22, August 21, 2005 (UTC)
 * I see no reason to use it either since it seems to suggest some sort of religious bent which would not be NPOV. I much prefer "d. January 1, 2006", "died January 1, 2006", or eliminating the letters altogether such as "(January 1, 1900 — December 31, 2005)".  People are going to know that those dates relate to birth and death so there's not really a reason to even say "born" or "died".  I don't like "passed away" or "met their creator" or any of those terms that hedge around, and imply religion in, the fact that the person is dead.  Plus if we started using the "dagger" character, all the other religions would throw their arms up saying that they would require a Star of David or 9 pointed star or whatever.  Then we'd have disputes over what symbol to use for those people who were born into one faith but then no longer practised that faith or even converted.

 * If it's not supposed to represent a cross, though most would just assume this anyway, and it is supposed to be a dagger, its use seems archaic and has fallen out of disuse to the point where it would be more of a sore thumb than an indicator of death. Dismas 23:42, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

 * This HAS come up before, see Village_pump/January_2004_archive_6. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:37, August 22, 2005 (UTC)

 * The dagger (which I always thought was a cross) is a very common way to mark death dates in genealogy. However, this use is not common in the US, where genealogists tend to write (b. 1909, m. 1938, d. 1999).  The "m." is for "married".  I don't think such a huge change would ever be approved.  -- Reinyday, 16:19, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much. This is very interesting, there are totally different viewpoints about this subject here than on Dutch wikipedia, where we have these two extremes: Ellywa 18:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
 * 1) The use is non-neutral because its a christian symbol.
 * 2) The use is trivial because it is used everywhere.

Marking births and deaths (from Village pump/January 2004 archive 6)
How should we be marking births and deaths on the anniversary pages? (eg January 21) people born on this day who are now dead have their year of death marks as († YYYY), (+ YYYY) or (d. YYYY) (each page seems to be different). For people who have died on this day, births are often not marked, or they use the convention ( * YYYY), (+ YYYY), (b. YYYY) or (YYYY - YYYY). I had been changing all the death symbols to the dagger (†) as I thought it was a good symbol of death (stab, stab) and * for births, but another user pointed out that both † and + could be seen as Christian symbols and there was a policy to avoid them. I can't find any policy on this in the manual of style. Fabiform 20:21, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * NPOV is the policy you seek. We need not have a Christian bias here when it is not needed. See related talk at Talk:Historical anniversaries/Example --mav 20:36, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * Well I'm not Christian and it hadn't occured to me people would see the dagger as a cross instead of weapon. But I do of course want to be NPOV which is why I asked here.  Thanks for pointing me toward the relevant talk page.  I see the consensus on the talk page is for (b. YYYY) and (d. YYYY).  Cheers, Fabiform 20:57, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * When I saw the symbol I thought it was supposed to be a cross. But, whatever, I don't care one way or another for that reason.  The dagger is unclear, though.  I'd prefer (yyyy-yyyy), or alternatively, (died yyyy). Anthony DiPierro 01:54, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * Actually Manual of Style (biographies) is better. We use (yyyy-yyyy). de.wikipedia uses the format with * and crosses. Secretlondon 20:44, Jan 21, 2004 (UTC)

The issue at hand is on pages like January 21 (as indicated) where there is a ==Births== section. In that section, if the person born then has since passed on, it's common to list the year of their death. In what manner should this indication be given. Of the above options, (d. YYYY) is my preference. - UtherSRG 20:55, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * ah but (YYYY - YYYY) would duplicate information in this case

Today we have this entry for example- Births Changing this to (d. 1789) is one thing, but this would look odd IMO- Fabiform 20:58, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)
 * 1738 - Ethan Allen, American patriot († 1789)
 * 1738 - Ethan Allen, American patriot (1738 - 1789)

 * The dagger (†) notation for many English-speaking users is a footnote notation. Its use to mark a death is archane and unclear to modern readers. When I see a "†", I start looking for the footnote explainer. My vote is for the standard (YYYY-YYYY) WP style. As for the Ethan Allen Link above -- the death is not germane to the list topic unless he died on his birthday. Otherwise, it should be in his bio entry article. Davodd 21:48, Jan 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * I disagree that the mention of Ethan Allen's (and everyone else's) year of death is out of place on the anniversary page. It adds context.  Either way, these dates are all over the anniversary pages and written in many different formats, so I think it's worthwhile to tidy them up (rather than remove them).  Of course, if lots of people jump in and second your comment, I'll bow to the consensus.  Fabiform 22:31, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * I think that including the death dates on the year page for someone who was born that year is a TERRIBLE scheme. If you want to know when they died, read the darn article. The only reason to have that year link there is to jump people to that year page, but presumably people aren't interested in reading about the magical connections between 1738 AD and 1789, but in reading about Ethan Allen. I beg, beg, beg people not to do this (+1789) thing. Among other things, it looks unprofessional, it clutters the page and we have enough work maintaining those timeline pages already, without having to add in a death date everywhere we put a birth date and visa versa! Please. Stop. (And delete all the junk that's already in there. Thank you kindly. jengod 02:36, Jan 23, 2004 (UTC)

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The Propaganda Poster Art Centre is a museum located in Shanghai wich exhibits posters from the Maoist period of communist China, especially from the Cultural Revolution period.. The museum is located in the basement of an apartment building in Huashan Lu in the former French Concession area. It consists of only two rooms.

Many posters are showing Mao as the rising sun of the country. On other posters the western world is shown as the "bad guys", depicted with big noses.

The owner of the museum, Mr. Yang Pei Ming, is keeping the posters as they are to be seen as an art form. He started collecting the posters as a hobby, and he wants to preserve the posters for the future. The museum is visited mainly by tourists, as it is listed in The Lonely Planet guide.

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With this edit: you added the information "provinces have made in the past a large profit from selling energy  companies". Is this a translation from the Dutch word "enegiebedrijven"? In that case the translation could also be "power companies". See the redirected articles energy company and power company. I think "power company" might be better. Please have a look. --VanBuren (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You are absolutely right. I am missing your subtle knowledge. What I meant however was "nutsbedrijven " which is broader. It can include water and gas. Do you think public utilities could be a better word? I have changed the article accordingly. Do you think its correct? Btw nice to see you here.Ellywa (talk) 23:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Nice. I linked it as well. :) --VanBuren (talk) 12:24, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

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 * Hi Jbhunley, there was a single reference, but apparently it was not noted somehow, perhaps because the template references was missing. I added several more and will remove the template. Thanks for warning me. Ellywa (talk) 10:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

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it is important to protect https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Buk_missile_system&diff=653082522&oldid=653082078

I looked into a Dutch newspaper from 20 March 2015, De Volkskrant. It states in Dutch that a journalist has found a metal scrap three months after the crash in a part of the fuselage. The journalist took the piece with him. It has appeared to be a part of a Buk. The Dutch government has not commented yet, at least, I could not find any formal reference, so I am quite sure there is no official publication from the goverment. The "Onderzoeksraad" (research council for accident investigation) says they will study the material as soon as it is handed to them and cannot draw conclusions before they have done their own research. Ellywa (talk) 15:32, 22 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.104.201.221 (talk)

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Hi Ellywa! Saw you working on Drs. P. You can include a link to De Zusters Karamazov if you like. Sietske (talk) 16:57, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you Sietske, I like that song very much. Sad he died.... Ellywa (talk) 17:03, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Sad indeed! You're welcome. Sorry for replying so late. Sietske (talk) 20:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

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 * Thanks VanBuren, we certainly need this! I saw some nasty discussions on NL about Tai Chi, I do not know how to help.... Ellywa (talk) 10:18, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
 * That's okay, that problem has been solved. Sometimes you yourself have a disagreement where I do not know how to help, so it goes. Keep smiling :). --VanBuren (talk) 11:25, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Penny Green
Hoi Ellywa,

I see that you made Penny Green a disambiguation page, also including a Professor at Queen Mary University. Because we don't yet have an article about her, I have restored the redirect: I'd suggest that you first write the article about the professor, and then restore the disambiguation page. --Slashme (talk) 09:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

 * Hi Slashme, thanks for mentioning. I wasn't aware this was the usual way to disambiguation here. I took your suggestion and made a short article about her and again made a disambiguation page. I hope somebody can correct my mistakes... I am not fluent in English. Kind regards, Ellywa (talk) 10:33, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Good work! After reading the references on that page, it seems that Green and Lynck were both controversial candidates, so I've made that clear. Maybe you'd like to translate the article to Dutch? Do you have the Content translation tool active on your account? --Slashme (talk) 11:59, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your addition! Perhaps I should translate the article, the issue was discussed in our national parliament. Thats how I came to look for her at Wikipedia. :-). I sometimes use the tool. Ellywa (talk) 12:10, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

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Please excuse my erroneous edit, likely a mistaken rollback or revert caused by my fat fingers, hypnagogia, or one of my ridiculous cats. I have likely self reverted or noticed the mistake after you corrected it. Again, my apologies. Thank you.  Eve rgr een Fir  (talk) 14:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem, it happens all the time. For instance on my previous phone, which had a small screen. Actually, thanks for checking my edits (and those of others). And many thanks for the nice image of your sweet little cat. Ellywa (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

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User:Ellywa, je had een vraagje over Hebreeuws. Alles wat er staat is "וְלֹא־יִכָּרֵ֧ת שֵׁם־הַמֵּ֛ת מֵעִ֥ם אֶחָ֖יו וּמִשַּׁ֣עַר מְקוֹמ֑וֹ". Dit is een citaat uit Ruth 4:10. De tekst van jullie is onnodig langer. In het Engels is dat "that the name of the deceased may not disappear from among his kinsmen and from the gate of his home town." Modern Joodse vertaling op Sefaria. gidonb (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Dank je wel Gidon! Groet Ellywa (talk) 06:28, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ook mijn dank; ik was degene die de vraag stelde. Echter, als ik deze tekst aan Google Translate voer, geeft hij En het zal niet nodig zijn dat de naam van het woord van zijn plaats komt. (And it will not be necessary for the name of the word to come from its place.)
 * Is GT zo beroerd met Hebreeuws? En voor mijn begrip: Als ik Ellywa goed begrijp zijn op de sokkel van het monument klinkertekens ingevoegd die in het (Bijbelse) Hebreeuws ontbreken. Klopt dat?  →bertux 07:46, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * op de sokkel staat de tekst zonder klinkers, de kleine streepjes en puntjes onder de tekst van Gidon zijn de klinkers. Hebreeuws wordt heel vaak zonder klinkers geschreven. n tkst znder klnkers s gd t bgrpn. tnmnst ls j rn gwnd bnt. Ellywa (talk) 09:51, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Nog iets, hier staat de zin in context. Je kan van elk woord de vertaling zien. Daar kan je weer op klikken, en zo zie je dat de vertaling van אֶחָ֖יו, broederen, ook "de ander" kan betekenen. Zie dit. Het oude Hebreeuws uit de Tenach is moeilijk te vertalen, vandaar dat er vele varianten zijn van de vertaling van dezelfde tekst, en GT zal er dus ook veel moeite mee hebben. Ellywa (talk) 09:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Ah, juist. Van de omgang met klinkers in het Hebreeuws weet ik wel iets, dat is het probleem niet.
 * Op een parallelle vertaling had Matroos Vos me ook al gewezen en die heb ik uitgeprobeerd, maar toen ik die met GT terugvertaalde kwam er een kreupele tekst uit. Ik durf het niet aan om die te plaatsen, ik kan alleen verder als ik zekerheid heb.
 * Begrijpelijkheid is niet mijn doel, want in De Levenspoort heb ik de betekenis al uitgelegd. Ik zou gewoon graag de letterlijke tekst van de sokkel willen hebben, zonder klinkers dus en inclusief eventuele fouten  →bertux 10:07, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Op de sokkel staat: ולא־יכרת שם־המת מעם אחיו ומשער מקומו gidonb (talk) 12:59, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Merci Gidonb (mis je nog steeds op WP-NL)!, op een presenteerblaadje de tekst zonder klinkers, maar niet te vertalen vrees ik. Ellywa (talk) 16:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Google Translate doet het hier best behoorlijk: En de naam van de overledene zal niet worden afgesneden van zijn broer en de plaats van zijn familielid.
 * Vergelijk NBG 1951: Zo zal de naam van de gestorvene niet uitgeroeid worden uit zijn broederen en uit de poort zijner woonplaats.
 * Dankjewel Gidonb, ik kon het nu nauwkeurig formuleren in het artikel, want eindelijk weet ik zeker dat de vertaalde tekst niet helemaal overeenkomt met de Hebreeuwse. Plus dat het zo provinciaal voelt om het origineel weg te laten  →bertux 23:31, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

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