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User talk:Pagingmrherman

Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav

Hi! I deleted your entry at Stompin' Tom Connors. Wikipedia can't tolerate copyright violations, even when you give the original source credit. If you want to write an original article, please do so. -- Zoe

Aww man, copyrights suck!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pagingmrherman (talk • contribs) 2003-02-02 06:59:33 (UTC)

I understand that you feel Myers-Briggs Type Indicators are the greatest thing since sliced bread, but please do not add personality types to biography article headers (see Manual of Style). I noticed that you did it in the case of Linus Torvalds, if you did it in other cases, please clean it up. If you want to keep them in, do the following:

 * 1) Get a reference for each type classification -- who has classified this person and where was this classification published?
 * 2) Move the classification - with that reference - to a "Personality" section at the bottom or something similar. "XY has classified AB as foo in the Myers-Briggs personality type classification scheme based on ..."

I'd prefer to have this limited to the respective articles, though (e.g. ISTP), but also with references. --Eloquence

Your recent article on The Turbans was seriously in error and several of the other articles you put in today are extremely short and non-encyclopedic. Perhaps you need to do a little more research before committing to writing an article and also read up on the idea of NPOV, the neutral point of view. Ortolan88

I just removed your content for Linux zealot. It did not explain what a linux zealot is, even remotely. matt 06:25 Feb 5, 2003 (UTC) - You need to understand that this is a serious endevour to produce an encyclopedia. I have had to alter or delete several of your entries. --rmhermen

 * Yes I agree. --mav

 * that's ok I like doing stubs sometimes they get through sometimes they don't.   At least some people fix them up.  I'd rather throw something in there and let someone else do the cleanup —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pagingmrherman (talk • contribs) 2003-05-06 04:58:06  (UTC)

 * Clean-up is a lot of work. Most people would rather work on their own entries than clean up other people's messes. --mav

 * ya but there are a *few* people that prefer to clean up rather than start anything new. Some of the largest trees can grow from a pile of shit!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pagingmrherman (talk • contribs) 2003-05-06 05:04:04  (UTC)

 * Please, In this case if you want trees it's better to plant seeds than spread shit. Perhaps a better metaphor is that much of what you've planeted has been noxious weeds, and you're imposing on others to check what you planted in any given place. Please don't put in random guesses or stuff you just make up. Usefull link: http://www.google.com Spend a little time looking something up, and you can probably find some good information to start or add to an article. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 05:18 May 6, 2003 (UTC)

DVD
I noticed you posted a new article titled "Dvd". You may not be aware that there's already another article titled "DVD". —Vespristiano 01:25, 2004 Feb 20 (UTC)

woops, I didn't see that (I thought it was a glaring omission) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pagingmrherman (talk • contribs) 2003-05-06 05:04:04 (UTC)

I notice you are still having problems knowing how to format your articles. Some usefull links for you to take a look at:

 * Welcome, newcomers
 * How to edit a page
 * How to write a great article
 * Naming conventions
 * Manual of Style

Hope this helps! -- Infrogmation 05:26, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Admin Nomination
Hello, I would appreciate your help by earning your vote as an admin. I have been here about 5 months now and have been nominated. I have made many contributions and have improved on my editing and behavior. I take this seriously, that is why I have gotten into it with Anthony so much. You can look at my user page yourself and see my contribtions. I would appreciate a vote in the yes column if you agree. Again, thanks for your time and help. ChrisDJackson 02:34, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I saw the Breadbox article you recently created. While I applaud your efforts to improve Wikipedia, if you are making entries this short, you should really mark them with as stubs (or in this case, substubs). In any case, this article seems to be mainly a definition of "breadbox", so I am nominating it to be moved to Wiktionary. If you have more to add to it, go ahead, and remove the Wiktionary notice. Next time, if you want to add something like this, please do it directly to Wiktionary. — [[User:Knowledge Seeker|Knowledge Seeker দ (talk)]] 19:16, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Image licencing
Hi, you contributed these images Image:Vgapinout.JPG and Image:Vgapinout0.JPG. Could you please add copy right infomation to the image pages see Image copyright tags for more details. Thanks --nixie 08:49, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Your edit on Wikipedia
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Production work
Your article Production work has been nominated for deletion, if you wish to comment please do so here. Eivind 01:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Steve Jobs
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Request for edit summary
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Parks in the city of Windsor, Ontario
The parks and recreation lists the distance from the Bridge to Hiram Walker on its bike trail, every few hundred meters, with decimals, such as 1.1, 2.0, 3.5, meaning the distance from the bridge, or distance to it. Even the Ganatchio Trail has "20.7" and 20.3" on it near Sandpoint Park. Riverfront Trail has "5.8." at its present eastern end, the junction with Lincoln Avenue, Riverside Drive, and the bike lanes.

 User:Raccoon Fox • Talk 20:25, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Oh well, maybe it is, I used the 'measure distance' thing in MS Mappoint and it came out to 5km and I thought I read it in the Windsor Star before.

Image tagging for Image:DVI_Connector.JPG
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Please try to edit responsibly
Here's an edit where I did a bit of cleanup to one of your stubs. I really think you should be able to take care of such things yourself by now. You've been here a good while, but you keep making newbie type edits. Please review the above links or ask for help if you don't understand how to do things. -- Infrogmation 13:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

Youtube
Hi, as I mentioned on the discussion page, youtube currently does not use vp6, and the player swf is version 7. You can confirm this by grabbing the player swf file and any flv from browser cache after visiting youtube, then there are tools that will tell you the versions. So, could you fix the article please as it is incorrect?

Roof Rack
Hi there, I moved your Roof Rack article to Roof rack; no difference, except the removal of capitals on the second word (because it wasn't a name). All the best Fourohfour 15:15, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

DNS Service Discovery
DNS Service Discovery has been proposed for deletion. NickelShoe (Talk) 16:38, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The Scout Association of the Cayman Islands
Do you have evidence that camping is illegal in the Cayman Islands? I find it surprising, so if you can not source it I suggest your edit should be reverted. --Bduke 02:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Candy
Can you give a source as to why you are claiming sour things aren't candies? 170.232.128.10 19:40, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I added sour candies to candy and someone took it out. So I guess they've decided sour "candy" isn't candy.

Don't let them get away with that without making them find a source for you! AFAIK being sour doesn't disqualify sour sweets like skittles from being candy.Zebulin 23:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

war of 1812 article
Thanks for replacing erroneous war of 1812 casualties figure with sourced accurate numbers. I knew 16,000 war dead was much too high.Zebulin 23:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of Leading Man
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Speedy deletion nomination of Molson Stock Ale

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Holy shit that was fast - there must be robots patrolling wikipedia nowadays. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pagingmrherman (talk • contribs)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Brainwave Music Project
Hello Pagingmrherman,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Brainwave Music Project for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Tina Gasturich (talk) 21:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

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ArbCom elections are now open!
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Proposed deletion of Kiosk (software)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Contextual Electronics
Hello Pagingmrherman,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Contextual Electronics for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Kavdiamanju (talk) 03:23, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Supply Frame
Hello Pagingmrherman,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Supply Frame for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Kavdiamanju (talk) 03:27, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

January 2016
This is your only warning; if you vandalize Wikipedia again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''STOP. I have reverted inappropriate changes you made to six articles you edited in the last 40 minutes.'' —Largo Plazo (talk) 03:37, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

JEEEEZ TAKE A CHILL PILL OK MAN WIKIPEDIA IS SO NAZI NOW COMPARED OT 2005 (ER. 2003) You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text to the bottom of your talk page:. Materialscientist (talk) 03:55, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Keyboards listed at Redirects for discussion
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Nomination of Bulk bins for deletion
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title: User talk:Pagingmrherman


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User talk:ArnoLagrange

(Sorry for the inconvenience, it looks like the blocking admin accidentally missed turning off the autoblock. Syrthiss (talk) 12:19, 8 July 2010 (UTC))

Hello and Welcome! I hope you like the place. --mav

Hello, you have an interesting choice of name. Arno 06:21, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Bonjour, monsieur! Arno 07:41, 5 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Press Release
I see you contributed to the creation of the press release. Might you be willing to follow these steps, and send off the press release? -- user:zanimum

For your Dad
I know just now about your father in Mediawiki. If you don't mind, please let me pray for him the eternal memory on the Lord. KIZU 23:05, 9 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Not to mention. As for your question, I read it on the announcement of Mediawiki. KIZU 07:02, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

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In order to confirm your standing in the Wikimedia election either me or Danny need to speak to you on the phone, so if you could email one of us we'll send you our phone numbers so you can call us. My email is imran@bits.bris.ac.uk. -Imran 23:20, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Hello, Arno! I am here in London staying at the Cherry Court Hotel. I am unfortunately unable to access my email, I have only access to the web. I am hopeful of meeting up with you this afternoon sometime, I will be around my hotel, you can leave a message. The best way to contact me is to leave a message on my User_talk page, I will check it every hour or so all afternoon. Jimbo Wales 11:44, 4 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Copyvios on is.
Please dont post copyright violations on other languages like you did here. Thank you. -- Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   14:08, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)

Possible Copyvio re: Propedeutic value of Esperanto
Please see Talk:Propedeutic value of Esperanto. It looks like you copied a document and lightly edited it; can you verify that the source is public-domain or that we have permission to copy and modify it? --Jim Henry 22:26, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Image
Hello I have cropped and uploaded one of the pictures you took at the London meetup Here, as you were the only person to take a photo of me. You said that your images were freely editable so I assume you wont mind, but I just though I'd check. G-Man 15:12, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Comunleng
Hi. :) The article Comunleng has recently been placed on votes for deletion. I was wondering if you would like to add your input, as very few of us involved in the discussion can read the Spanish or French versions of the article. Thank you. func (talk) 18:10, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Birthday
--User:Jenmoa 02:12, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

Rosicrucian article
Dear ArnoLagrange, as I have seen a edition of yours at the article Rosicrucian, I come to request your support to this article that I have just purposed for nomination at Featured_article_candidates. May you may give a look into it? And, if you consider it acceptable, then may you support it? Thank you! :) --GalaazV 02:45, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

From Hungary to NYC to you
Hi, Arno. I got your messages regarding the commons. Thanks for taking the time to to explain these things to me.

 * (Its interesting how we can get confused.. Anyway,nice to see that you are still here.) Arno 08:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

May I ask how you found out about my article moving from en:wiki to hu:wiki? News seems to travel fast here. I'm just curious, that's all. It's exciting to see one's work translated.

I found your user name at hu:wiki, but since you do not have a page set up there, I am leaving this message here.

I hope we can find a way to work together. Meanwhile, I will go over your instructions regarding the commons, and make my best effort to learn them. If I have some questions about this, I may come back and ask you.

Thanks again for volunteering your expertise.

Regards,

paul klenk talk 06:54, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

p.s. It appears you know Esperanto. I have a user page at eo:wiki; if you know of a translator, or would like to translate it yourself, I'd be much obliged. -- p.k.
 * Hi, I noticed your work on my page! I left a message for you at the eo:wiki. Thanks!  paul klenk talk 07:52, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Oh, I think I figured it out now. Thanks for explaining it to me!  paul klenk talk

Native esperanto speaker?
I'm curious how you ended up being a native Esperanto speaker. The only native Esperanto spakers I know about are cases where a couple falls in love and marries, where the only language the coupld share is esperanto. Samboy 01:02, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Excuse me for butting in, but my guess is thats what happenned.Cameron Nedland 02:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes my parents met with esperanto. My mother is born as a german and my father was french. But my mother speaks french very well for a long time and my parents spoke together in french or in esperanto as they wanted. It's a very personal question in which language people speak at home. For example my mother nether could speak german with me while I speak/spoke german with my grandmother, my aunts, etc. She just doesn't want or doesn't like. I know families where three languages are spoken : the mother's one, the father's (which are different) and esperanto. Does that work well ? It depends on each people and lot of subtile things. Arno  Lagrange ✉ 06:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

 * That's cool bro. I'm learning EO right now.  It seems like an easy language and a good choice for the world.Cameron Nedland 13:44, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks bro!Cameron Nedland 19:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
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Grace Moore

Mary Willie Grace Moore (December 5, 1898 – January 26, 1947) was an American operatic lyric soprano and actress in musical theatre and film. She was nicknamed the "Tennessee Nightingale." Her films helped to popularize opera by bringing it to a larger audience. She was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actress for her performance in One Night of Love.

In 1947, Moore died in a plane crash at the age of 48. She published an autobiography in 1944 titled You're Only Human Once. In 1953, a film about her life was released titled So This Is Love starring Kathryn Grayson.

Early life
Moore was born Mary Willie Grace Moore, the daughter of Tessa Jane (née Stokely) and Richard Lawson Moore. She was born in the community of Slabtown (now considered part of Del Rio) in Cocke County, Tennessee. By the time she was two years old, her family had relocated to Knoxville, a move Moore later described as traumatic. She found urban life distasteful at the time. After several years in Knoxville, the family again relocated to Jellico, Tennessee, where Moore spent her adolescence. After high school in Jellico, she studied briefly at Ward-Belmont College in Nashville before moving to Washington, D.C., and New York City to continue her musical training and begin her career. The Black Cat Café in Greenwich Village was where she landed her first professional singing gig. She relocated to New York in 1919 to pursue her singing career and performed there in nightclubs to help pay for singing classes.

Musical theater
Grace Moore's first Broadway appearance was in 1920 in the musical Hitchy-Koo, by Jerome Kern. In 1922 and 1923 she appeared in the second and third of Irving Berlin's series of four Music Box Revues. In the 1923 edition she and John Steel introduced Berlin's song "What'll I Do". When Moore sang "An Orange Grove in California", orange blossom perfume was wafted through the theater.

In 1932 she appeared on Broadway in the short-lived operetta The DuBarry by Karl Millöcker.

Opera
After training in France, Moore made her operatic debut at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City on February 7, 1928, singing the role of Mimì in Giacomo Puccini's La bohème. She debuted at the Opéra-Comique in Paris on September 29, 1928 in the same role, which she also performed in a Royal Command Performance at Covent Garden in London on June 6, 1935. During her sixteen seasons with the Metropolitan Opera, she sang in several Italian and French operas as well as the title roles in Tosca, Manon, and Louise. Louise was her favorite opera and is widely considered to have been her greatest role.

In the 1930s and 1940s she gave concert performances throughout the United States and Europe, performing a repertoire of operatic selections and other songs in German, French, Italian, Spanish, and English. During World War II, she was active in the USO, entertaining American troops abroad. In 1945 she sang Mimi to Nino Martini's Rodolfo in La bohème for the inaugural performance of the San Antonio Grand Opera Festival.

She also performed during and after WWII in support of Allied Forces. From the personal memoire of Lt. Gen. John C. H. Lee, on 24 July 1945: "After an early dinner drove in convoy to the Paris Opera House for the gala performance entitled "Pacifique 45" given by the French for the benefit of the families of French war veterans. The program laid particular emphasis on the war in Japan and included the showing of two films - "Fighting Lady" and "Iwo Jima" and the rendition of several songs and the French and American national anthems by Grace Moore.  Seated in the box of honor were General Alphonse Juin, the French Minister of Information Jacques Soustelle, and a number of important American and French officers.  It seemed to be a great success and was particularly appreciated by the crowd of some 20,000 gathered in the square outside the Opera House."

Film

Attracted to Hollywood in the early years of talking pictures, Moore had her first screen role as Jenny Lind in the 1930 film A Lady's Morals, produced for MGM by Irving Thalberg and directed by Sidney Franklin. Later that same year she starred with the Metropolitan Opera singer Lawrence Tibbett in New Moon, also produced by MGM, the first screen version of Sigmund Romberg's operetta The New Moon.

After a hiatus of several years, Moore returned to Hollywood under contract to Columbia Pictures, for whom she made six films. In the 1934 film One Night of Love, her first film for Columbia, she portrayed a small-town girl who aspires to sing opera. For that role she was nominated for the Academy Award for Best Actress in 1935. She starred in 1936 as Empress Elisabeth of Austria in Josef von Sternberg's production The King Steps Out.

By this time, she was so popular that MGM was able to insist on equal billing for Moore in a projected film with Maurice Chevalier, who had always enjoyed solo star billing up until then. Chevalier felt so deeply about this blow to his status that he quit Hollywood and the film was never made.

A memorable highlight of When You're in Love (1937) was a comic scene in which Moore donned flannel shirt and trousers and joined a 5-man band for a flamboyant rendition of Cab Calloway's "Minnie the Moocher", complete with gestures and "hi-de-ho's", but with the lyrics slightly altered to conform with Hollywood sensibilities. Also, she performed the popular Madama Butterfly duet "Vogliatemi bene" with American tenor Frank Forest in the 1937 film I'll Take Romance.

The last film that Moore made was Louise (1939), an abridged version of Gustave Charpentier's opera of the same name, with spoken dialog in place of some of the original opera's music. The composer participated in the production, authorizing the cuts and changes to the libretto, coaching Moore, and advising director Abel Gance. This production also featured two renowned French singers: dramatic tenor Georges Thill and basse cantante André Pernet.

Controversies
She was widely criticized in December 1938 when she curtsied to the Duchess of Windsor, in Cannes. Upon her return to the United States after six months and ten days in Europe ("to save money in income tax"), Moore defended her curtsy, saying: She would have been a royal duchess long ago if she had not been an American. After all, she gave happiness and the courage of his convictions to one man, which is more than most women can do. She deserves a curtsy for that alone.

According to Joe Laurie Jr., vaudeville performer and historian, Grace Moore would not perform on vaudeville bills that included black performers.

Honors
In 1935 Moore received the gold medal award of the Society of Arts and Sciences for "conspicuous achievement in raising the standard of cinema entertainment." In 1936 King Christian X of Denmark awarded her his country's medal of 'Ingenito et Arti.' In 1937, she was commissioned as a colonel (an honorary position) on the staff of the governor of Tennessee, and was also made a life member of the Tennessee State Society of Washington, D.C. She was decorated as a chevalier of the French Légion d'honneur in 1939. Moore was also a member of the Peabody Awards Board of Jurors from 1940 to 1942.

Personal life
Moore married Valentín Parera, a Spanish movie actor, in Cannes, on July 15, 1931. They had no children. During the 1930s they maintained homes in Hollywood, Cannes, and Connecticut.

Death
Grace Moore died at the age of 48, along with 21 other people, including the crown prince of Sweden, in a plane crash near Copenhagen Airport on January 26, 1947. Moore is buried in Forest Hills Cemetery in Chattanooga.

Filmography

 * A Lady's Morals (1930; later released under the title Jenny Lind in the United Kingdom and in a French-language version)
 * New Moon (1930)
 * One Night of Love (1934)
 * Love Me Forever (1935)
 * The King Steps Out (1936)
 * When You're in Love (1937)
 * I'll Take Romance (1937)
 * Louise (1939)

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Links and redirects...
Now, that redirects can link to anchors, how about making the often used redirects link to the exact entry. I tried doing something like this for vice versa by adding a at almost the right spot and making the redirects go there. I say almost, because currently you have to scroll up slightly to see the entire definition, but in my opinion this is still infinitely more comfortable than being thrown to the beginning of V or even worse the beginning of (P-V). PS. If redirects to anchors don't work for you, you might have to shift-reload the page (once!). Anyway, it works for me... Try vice versa... should we do the same for others entires that are redirected here? --Merzul 16:49, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Better to use section see below --PBS (talk) 12:16, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Move?
An anon with no previous edit history nominated the whole series of Latin Phrases for transwiki to Wiktionary. Seeing no discussion, and seeing that this has been rejected before, is there an objection to my removing the tag? Robert A.West (Talk) 00:15, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Please remove it. 207.225.65.76 03:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Ad Verbatim
Isn't this latin? I'm not a Latin scholar so I don't really know, but if it is, should it be on the list? I believe it is commonly translated as "to the word" or meaning "in full". Ra.rochford 02:00, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Verbatim is a Latin adverb meaning "Word for word". Adam Bishop 05:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Category sorting
Regarding the following:.
 * Is that verical line followed by a space necessary, or is it a typo?
 * Yours truly, --Ludvikus 16:33, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It places the link at the top of the list on the category page. (Otherwise it would be under L.) Adam Bishop 16:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
I am a current latin student. This is actually the first phrase we learned, to help us remember the three very common words. The translation is, "Always where under where" a joke that sounds like,"Always wear underwear" This is a good one to say to your teacher, assuming they have a nice sense of humor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hockadori (talk • contribs) 04:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

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Unlike undefined which is limited to ten section can have many more entries on an page. By adding section template before the name in the table, it is then possible to point a redirect at the specific phrase. For example dolus specialis redirect so List of Latin phrases (C-E). The table entry for doulus specialis starts with " |doulus specialis||... " and as the template contents do not show in the table there is no apparent change to the text. However if the Note is extensive it is probably best to place the template at the start of the Notes cell as the first text in the first cell is centred and the text at the start of the Notes cell will be above the top of the viewing window. --PBS (talk) 12:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you misunderstand the restriction of Anchor: it can have no more than 10 anchors specified in one invocation ; there is no restriction on how many anchors can be placed on a page. Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Per medium
I encounter this one in stilted English writing occasionally. It it used in place of "via" or "by way of". —  SMcCandlish  [talk] [cont] ‹(-¿-)› 00:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Split
I split the six articles into 20 because of their relatively large size. (sorry for not clearing up the redirects!) Is it just me, or is the full list redundant? Should we be deleting it? --Woodelf 14:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Their size was not a problem; their splitting caused problems. Did you familiarise yourself with WP:SIZE, particularly with "No need for haste", and WP:SPLIT before you proceeded?
 * Apart from the many orphaned redirects, there were also several errors in the newly created split-off pages (headers missing), and in the full list ("I" missing altogether).
 * But what's done is done, and there is now no point in post-match analysis.
 * The full list is not redundant; its purpose is explained in its lead. And "we" cannot delete it; that needs a proposal, a discussion/vote, and administrative action. Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:45, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Canes pugnaces
Hi, would some of you mind chiming in on this article Canes pugnaces advising them, that Latin phrases, words, terms or idioms are allowed to have their own article for this category. They want to #Redirect it to a similar meaning in English. Thank you. Green Squares (talk) 14:13, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The discussion is at Talk:Canes pugnaces where there was a clear consensus to turn this into a redirect. including several editors from WP:WikiProject Classical Greece and Rome. I'd welcome more comments to convince Greensquares that "canis, pugnax" (with the comma in several of his sources, which are in fact from the identical non-Classical text) is not a Latin phrase. Dougweller (talk) 18:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Article name
Given that this page doesn't contain any Latin phrases but a list of such articles, shouldn't the page be moved to Lists of Latin phrases? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:07, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No. There's still only one list. It's just broken up alphabetically for length concerns. If they were divided by topic or source, then a name change would be appropriate. Reywas92 Talk 22:27, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
 * In addition to the one list broken up alphabetically, there are quite a number of other lists listed in the "See also" section. That makes this part of, and the article name should reflect that. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, because the see also is not part of the list itself. Most of those links are either categories or unrelated to either latin or phrases. Reywas92 Talk 16:54, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Proposed link
There are few external links listed on this page. I would like to see a link to my personal site: Latin quotes, sayings and words of wisdom

The collection I have is more comprehensive. Besides, many sites with Latin phrases replicate each other's errors. I try to keep my list in better shape.

Deses (talk) 12:42, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

 * Thanks for asking – it's a nice list. User:Wareh's comments on his and your talk pages notwithstanding, I think your site may fail WP:ELNO no. 5 (too many ads), no. 7 (accessability (the scroll box for the letter "A") ), and most importantly, no. 11 (personal web site). Others may think differently. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

 * Thank you! For what it's worth, I have streamlined the pages a bit. The scroll box did not work well on mobile devices. Still a useful resource, considering the links presently available. Deses (talk) 17:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Why here?
Why such list is in Wikipedia, but not in Wikiquote? I think wikiq is better place for it. Did here is some discussions about it? -- Base talk сontr.  11:50, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * At the top of this talk page are three links that point to previous discussions related to your question:

 * 1) Talk:List of Latin phrases/Archive 1,
 * 2) Articles for deletion/List of Latin phrases,
 * 3) Articles for deletion/List of Latin phrases (2nd nomination).
 * It seems long-standing consensus is to keep the page(s) here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:42, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh not noticed :( Consensus, consensus, bla-bla-bla... Consensus is highter then idia of WP... Okay, I cant change anything... Thanks for answer! -- Base talk сontr.  20:55, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Popular Wikipedia quote - in Latin - include - or not? ==

FWIW - Talk-page discussion (copied below) seems relevant:

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english => "We help the internet not suck."

latin => "Nos Auxilium Facere Interrete Non Lactaverunt."

(UserBox and related talk-page)

-- A Latin motto that you appear to have contributed --

"Nos Auxilium Facere Penitus Non Nutrientibus" means something close to "We the help to make internal for those who do not suckle." (Auxilium is a noun, facere is infinitive, suckling is the reverse of sucking, and there is a far more correct Latin word for Internet.) "Iuvamus ne interrete sugat" would still be silly, but at least it would be Latin. And how can anyone enjoy, knowing that somewhere on the Internet someone's Latin is wrong? Peter Gulutzan (talk) 17:27, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you *very much* for your comments - and suggestion re the Latin phrase ("Nos Auxilium Facere Penitus Non Nutrientibus.") - I wikilinked the phrase in the userbox (User:UBX/WikiLatin) to the "Google Latin Translator" - see wikilink at => https://translate.google.com/#la/en/Nos%20Auxilium%20Facere%20Penitus%20Non%20Nutrientibus - which Google translates as follows => "We help make the Internet not suck." [Note: edit-add => the related phrase, "Nos Auxilium Facere Interrete Non Nutrientibus.", based on one of your suggestions, is also translated by Google the same way - as => "We help make the Internet not suck."] - your own suggested phrasing - which may be better - and more correct - is translated (on Google Translate) as follows => "Iuvamus ne interrete sugat." => "Helps prevent internet suck." - interestingly (to me) - capitalizing seems to give a different phrase (on Google Translate) as follows => "Iuvamus Ne Interrete Sugat." => "Internet helps prevent sugar. - nonetheless - I may consider changing the phrase to your suggestion - in any case - Thanks again for your comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 18:24, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
 * BRIEF Followup: Updated Latin motto to the following => "Nos Auxilium Facere Interrete Non Lactaverunt" - based on Google Translate - also, see related => List of Latin phrases (N)#N - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 16:16, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi, I've reverted your change to the Wikipedia page "List of Latin phrases (N)". If you wish to insist, I believe the main talk page for "List of Latin phrases" might be appropriate. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 14:42, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

In any case - Comments Welcome - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 15:03, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
 * From Latin intro which appears on every "List of Latin phrases ([A–Z])": "This page lists English translations of notable Latin phrases". The proposed entry, "Nos auxilium facere interrete non lactaverunt", fails that requirement on several levels. 1) It's not a Latin phrase; 2) no-one has uttered or written it; it's a (humorous?) attempt to translate a well-known phrase by Jimbo into Latin, similar to Obama's "vero possumus" (which has documented usage, unlike the phrase discussed here); 3) it's debatable whether it's actually Latin. All that suggests to me that it shuld not be included in List of Latin phrases (N). -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 07:33, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your *excellent* comments - yes - *entirely* agree - the noted phrase may not be worthy of including in the List of Latin phrases after all - Thanks again for your comments - and - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 11:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Macrons
Should these phrases include macrons over long vowels? I feel they’re pretty essential and should be. Thoughts? שונרא (talk) 19:55, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose merging nomen mysticum into List of Latin phrases (N). Many other phrases (such as vice versa) redirect to the list. Mast303 (talk) 04:10, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

Is this not a list of lists of Latin phrases?
I believe this is a list that contains lists of Latin phrases. This article is a list of Latin phrases: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(full). It is a list where everything on the list is a Latin phrase. This article just links to other lists of Latin phrases. Clamless (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * What are you proposing? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:54, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

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Gavin Bryars

Richard Gavin Bryars (born 16 January 1943) is an English composer and double bassist. He has worked in jazz, free improvisation, minimalism, historicism, avant-garde, and experimental music.

Early life and career
Born on 16 January 1943 in Goole, in the East Riding of Yorkshire, England, Bryars studied philosophy at Sheffield University but became a jazz bassist during his three years as a philosophy student.

The first musical work for which he is remembered was his role as bassist in the trio Joseph Holbrooke, alongside guitarist Derek Bailey and drummer Tony Oxley. The trio began by playing relatively traditional jazz – they toured with saxophonist Lee Konitz in 1966 – before moving into free improvisation. Bryars became dissatisfied with this when he saw a young bassist (later revealed to be Johnny Dyani) play in a manner that seemed to him to be artificial, and he abandoned improvisation, becoming interested in composition instead. In 1998 the trio reformed briefly, giving two live performances and making recordings.

Bryars's first compositions owe much to the New York School of John Cage (with whom he briefly studied), Morton Feldman, Earle Brown and minimalism. One of his earliest pieces, The Sinking of the Titanic (1969), is an indeterminist work that allows the performers to take a number of sound sources related to the sinking of the RMS Titanic and make them into a piece of music. The first recording of this piece appeared on Brian Eno's Obscure Records in 1975. The 1994 recording was remixed by Aphex Twin as Raising the Titanic (later collected on the 26 Mixes for Cash album). In 2012, the centenary of the Titanic's sinking, Bryars made a new extended version, with film projections by Bill Morrison and Laurie Olinder, that included his four children as a low-string ensemble (viola, 2 cellos, bass) and turntablist Philip Jeck, subsequently released on GB records (BCGBCD21 2013)

Another well-known early work is Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet (1971), which has as its basis a recorded loop of a homeless man singing a musical fragment that the old man had improvised. On top of that loop, rich harmonies played by a live ensemble are built, always increasing in density, before the whole thing gradually fades out. A recording of this work was made in 1993 with Tom Waits singing along with the original recording of the vagrant during the final section.

Bryars was a founding member in May 1970 of the Portsmouth Sinfonia, an orchestra whose membership consisted of performers who "embrace the full range of musical competence" – and who played popular classical works. Its members included Brian Eno, whose Obscure Records label would subsequently release works by Bryars. In one of the label's first three releases, Eno's album Discreet Music, Bryars conducted and co-arranged Three Variations on the Canon in D Major by Johann Pachelbel, which constitutes the second half of the album.

The 1992 composition A Man in a Room Gambling was written on commission from Artangel. Bryars's music is heard beneath monologues spoken by the Spanish artist Juan Muñoz, who talks about methods of cheating at card games (drawing on The Expert at the Card Table by S. W. Erdnase). The ten short works were played on BBC Radio 3 without any introductory announcements, and Bryars wrote that Muñoz hoped they would appear to the listener in a similar way to the Shipping Forecast, "bemused by this fleeting and perhaps enigmatic curiosity."

Bryars has written many other works, including five operas, and many instrumental pieces, among them four string quartets and several concertos. He has written several pieces for dance, including Biped (1999) for Merce Cunningham, as well as works for William Forsythe, Carolyn Carlson, Edouard Lock and David Dawson. In 1981–1984 Bryars participated in the CIVIL warS, a vast, never-completed multimedia project by Robert Wilson, who also directed his first opera, Medea. His cello concerto Farewell to Philosophy was recorded in 1996 by Julian Lloyd Webber. He has also written a large body of vocal and choral music for groups such as the Hilliard Ensemble, the Latvian Radio Choir, the Estonian National Men's Choir, Red Byrd, Trio Mediaeval, Singer Pur, Nordic Voices and The Crossing, whose recording of "The Fifth Century" won a Grammy in 2019. He has written a great deal for early music performers including six books of madrigals, several works for viol consort and a collection of 54 "laude" based on a 12th century manuscript.

Bryars' When Harry Met Addie (a tribute to jazz singer Adelaide Hall and saxophonist Harry Carney) was premiered at the Duke Ellington Memorial Concert at the Queen Elizabeth Hall, London, on 1 May 1999. The piece was performed by the London Sinfonietta Big Band and commissioned by the baritone saxophonist/bass clarinettist John Surman. Cristina Zavalloni sang the soprano and the London Sinfonietta Big Band was conducted by Diego Masson·

Bryars founded the music department at Leicester Polytechnic (now De Montfort University), and was Professor of Music there for several years. He left in 1994 to concentrate on composition and performance. He lives in England, and, for part of the year, on the west coast of Canada.

Since 1986 Bryars has run The Gavin Bryars Ensemble with his preferred musicians, consisting chiefly of low strings. Now, in addition, this regularly includes his children (2 cellos, piano and double bass)

Since 1974 Bryars has been a member of the Collège de 'Pataphysique and was elected Regent in 2001. In 2015 he was named Transcendent Satrap, the highest honour in the Collège, a position he shares with Marcel Duchamp, Man Ray, Eugène Ionesco, Umberto Eco, and others.

In 2020, Bryars composed Altissima Luce for Sound World’s Coronavirus Fund for Freelance Musicians, a project supporting struggling musicians during the UK’s Covid 19 lockdown. It was included on the album Reflections alongside specially written pieces by other composers such as Nico Muhly, Mark-Anthony Turnage, Evelyn Glennie and Sally Beamish.

In 2023, Bryars collaborated with Goole band Sandra's Wedding on their new EP, "Another Rugby League Town".

Also in 2023, Bryars provided a special guest vocal for experimental composer Bill Vine's work, "Norwich Under the Water". The piece premiered at Norwich Cathedral in August 2023.

Personal life
Bryars is married to Anna Tchernakova, a Russian filmmaker, and has a stepdaughter and son. Bryars has two daughters from his first marriage.

Selected works

 * The Sinking of the Titanic (1969, first performance: Queen Elizabeth Hall, London, 1972)
 * Necropolis, soundtrack for Franco Brocani film (1970)
 * Jesus' Blood Never Failed Me Yet (for pre-recorded tape and ensemble), 1972
 * Medea (opera, libretto after Euripides), 1982, revised 1984 and 1995
 * CIVIL WarS (incomplete opera collaboration with Robert Wilson), 1984. Some sections of the music exist in completed form, as follows:
 * On Photography for Chorus (SATB), harmonium, piano
 * 2B for Percussion ensemble
 * Arias For Marie Curie, The Queen of the Sea, Captain Nemo, The Japanese Bride
 * String Quartet No. 1 Between the National and the Bristol, 1985
 * Cadman Requiem (dedicated to Bill Cadman, his sound recordist, who perished in Pan Am 103), 1989
 * String Quartet No. 2, 1990
 * A Man in a Room, Gambling, for speaking voice and string quartet (text: Juan Muñoz), 1992
 * The War in Heaven, cantata for soprano, counter tenor, chorus and orchestra
 * The North Shore for viola and piano, 1993
 * Three Elegies for Nine Clarinets, 1994
 * ''Cello Concerto Farewell to Philosophy, 1995
 * Adnan Songbook, 1996
 * Doctor Ox's Experiment, opera, 1998
 * String Quartet no.3, 1998
 * Biped – music for the dance by Merce Cunningham, 1999
 * When Harry Met Addie - music for soprano voice (vocalise) and big band, 1999
 * G (Being the Confession and Last Testament of Johannes Gensfleisch, also known as Gutenberg, Master Printer, formerly of Strasbourg and Mainz), opera, 2002.
 * I Have Heard It Said That a Spirit Enters, 2002
 * Nothing like the Sun – 8 Shakespeare sonnets for soprano, tenor, speaking voice, eight instruments, 2007
 * Piano Concerto ("The Solway Canal"), 2010
 * Marilyn Forever - opera, 2013
 * Hövdingar hittast (Heroes Meet), 2014 with Rúni Brattaberg (bass) and Eivør Pálsdóttir (soprano) - A collection of pieces based on Faroese and Icelandic sagas
 * Pneuma - ballet, 2014, with Carolyn Carlson
 * The Seasons - ballet, 2014, with Edouard Lock
 * 11th Floor - ballet with Edouard Lock
 * The Fifth Century - cantata for choir and saxophone quartet, text from Thomas Traherne, 2014
 * The Heart of August - ballet with Eduard Lock
 * The Collected Works of Billy the Kid, chamber opera, text by Michael Ondaatje, 2018
 * Requiem - ballet with David Dawson Dutch National Ballet, for full orchestra, choir and four soloists 2019
 * A Native Hill - large a cappella choral work for The Crossing, setting Wendell Berry 2019
 * Altissima Luce - trio for bass-clarinet, viola and cello
 * String Quartet no.4, 2020
 * Wittgenstein Fragments for soprano, flute and string quartet 2021
 * In Là collaboration for installation with sculptor Massimo Bartolini, Prato, Italy 2022
 * Strng Sextet ("The Bridges of Könisberg") 2022
 * Three New Gnossiennes (after Satie) in memoriam Ornella Volta 2022
 * The Bridges of Königsberg 2023

Filmography

 * Jacqueline Caux, Dolce voce, 2012
 * ECM50 | 1990 Gavin Bryars (2019), a short film portrait of Gavin Bryars and his work with ECM Records, shot at his house in Leicestershire

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Dangerous (1935 film)

Dangerous is a 1935 American drama film directed by Alfred E. Green and starring Bette Davis in her first Oscar-winning role. The screenplay by Laird Doyle is based on his story Hard Luck Dame.

Plot
Don Bellows, a prominent architect, is engaged to the beautiful and wealthy Gail Armitage when he meets down-and-out Joyce Heath, who was once the most promising young actress on Broadway. Don feels deeply indebted to Joyce because her performance as Juliet inspired him to become an architect.

While rehabilitating her, Don falls in love with the tempestuous actress. Joyce, convinced she destroys anything and anyone she touches, warns him she is a jinx. Compelled to save her, Don breaks his engagement to Gail and risks his fortune to back the actress in a Broadway show. Before opening night, he insists they marry, but Joyce resists his proposal, hiding the fact she is married to Gordon Heath, an ineffectual but devoted man who was financially ruined by their marriage.

Joyce goes to Gordon and begs him for a divorce. When he refuses, she causes an automobile accident that cripples him for life. Her own injuries keep her from opening in the show, which fails. Don is ruined, and when he learns that Joyce has deceived him, he accuses her of being a completely selfish woman, her only true jinx.

Joyce briefly considers suicide, but eventually sees the truth in Don's accusation. She re-opens the show and, although she truly loves Don, sends him away to marry Gail. The show is a success, and Joyce, now dedicated to a responsible life, goes to visit Gordon and salvage her marriage.

Cast

 * Bette Davis as Joyce Heath
 * Franchot Tone as Don Bellows
 * Margaret Lindsay as Gail Armitage
 * Alison Skipworth as Mrs. Williams
 * John Eldredge as Gordon Heath
 * Dick Foran as Teddy
 * Walter Walker as Roger Farnsworth
 * Richard Carle as Pitt Hanley
 * George Irving as Charles Melton
 * Pierre Watkin as George Sheffield
 * Douglas Wood as Elmont
 * William B. Davidson as Reed Walsh (as William Davidson)

Production
Bette Davis initially turned down the script, but Warner Bros. studio production chief Hal B. Wallis convinced her she could make something special out of the character, who had been inspired by one of Davis' idols, actress Jeanne Eagels. In fact, one of the characters in the film mentions how Eagels and Davis character Joyce are the only two actresses who can play the lead in the play "But to Die". Davis was determined to look like an actress on the skids, and insisted Orry-Kelly design costumes appropriate for a woman who had seen better days. It was for this film Perc Westmore styled her hair in the bob cut she would favor for the rest of her life.

Based on Laird Doyle's short story Hard Luck Dame, the $194,000 film had six working titles before producer Hal B. Wallis decided on Dangerous. The other titles were Hard Luck Dame, Evil Star (which Davis favored), The Jinx Woman, Forever Ends a Dawn, Tomorrow Ends and But to Die.

Franchot Tone, who recently had completed Mutiny on the Bounty, was borrowed from Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer to bolster Davis' marquee value. Davis was immediately drawn to the actor, who was engaged to Joan Crawford at the time. Producer Harry Joe Brown later revealed he had walked in on Davis and Tone in a compromising position. Crawford apparently knew about the liaison, but didn't break the engagement. Most biographers believe this was the start of the lifelong feud between the two actresses, vividly portrayed in the 2017 anthology series, Feud.

Three songs by Harry Warren - "Forty-Second Street," "The Little Things You Used to Do," and "Sweet and Slow" - are heard on the soundtrack. The other song was "Bridal Chorus" by Richard Wagner.

In 1941, the film was remade as Singapore Woman as a second feature with Brenda Marshall in the lead role. It coincidentally utilized some of the sets from The Letter, the 1940 film starring Davis.

Davis won the Academy Award for Best Actress for her performance, but always felt it was a consolation prize for not having been nominated for Of Human Bondage the previous year, and believed that Katharine Hepburn should have won the award for her performance in another 1935 film, Alice Adams. In 2002, Steven Spielberg anonymously bought the Oscar Davis had won at auction at Sotheby's and returned it to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences. The statuette had been part of the memorabilia displayed by the Planet Hollywood restaurant chain.

Critical reception

The New York Times wrote "That Bette Davis has been unable to match the grim standard she set as Mildred in Of Human Bondage is not to her discredit. In Dangerous, she tries again. Except for a few sequences where the tension is convincing as well as deadly she fails...Say this for Miss Davis: she seldom lets down."

Variety wrote "Laird's dialog is adult, intelligent and has a rhythmic beat. Davis' performance is fine on the whole, despite a few imperfect moments. When called upon to reach an intense dramatic pitch without hysterics, Davis is capable of turning the trick. Yet there are moments in Dangerous when a lighter acting mood would be opportune."

Writing for The Spectator in 1936, Graham Greene gave the film a mixed review. Characterizing the story as "poor, [and] the ending atrociously sentimental", and criticizing Margaret Lindsay's portrayal of Gail, Greene also praised Bette Davis for her portrayal of Joyce, and concluded that the film was "a picture to see for [Bette Davis'] sake"—"unusual, but only because of Miss Davis."

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Talk:Northern France Campaign (1944)

Relation to Battle of Normandy
Before this entry goes any further, it would be wise to ponder just how it's going to sit in with the other related articles, particularly the one on the Battle of Normandy. How are we going to draw a line between Normandy and Northern France, and how are we going to deal with the several matters that cross over from the one conflict to the other? (If, indeed, it's sensible to consider them seperately at all)

It might actually be easier to decide this after writing the text rather than in advance - i.e., simply continue the Normandy entry, and then split it up into two pages when it gets too big.

It might also be worth pondering an Invasion of Western Europe entry, which could summarise events of June 1944 to May 1945 and then link to the various subsiduary battles: Normandy, Northern France, the Channel Ports, the Battle of the Bulge, and so on. Tannin

 * Yes, the existing Normandy page will need a bit of slicing and dicing. The (US) military tends to be precise about the beginning and ending dates of campaigns - the dates decide logistics, service records, who gets which ribbons, etc, and to them the last day of the "Normandy campaign" is July 24th, even though the popular accounts usually go through to the closing of the Falaise Pocket.  If you google for "northern france campaign" and so on, you'll notice that divisional histories and such are extremely conscious of which campaigns they can claim to have participated in.

 * Ahh. That explains it. Yes, I did Google around, and it seemed a little odd. (I was actually just checking before I made a horrible howler by changing the general in charge from Patton (which I knew was wrong) to Montgomery (which was what I remembered) but I thought I better make sure that the Mongomery to Eisenhower changover hadn't already taken place.) Actually, I don't recall seeing thet phrase "Northern France campaign" used much at all by British historians, they seem to just roll the whole thing from 6th June on to the fall of Paris into one. But for our purposes, I think the split is useful - a single huge article would be too long. Tannin

 * Originally I thought the campaign division was obvious to everybody, but the writing process has been very educational - I haven't yet found any source material that explains how the US and Commonwealth interacted campaignwise. My working hypothesis is now that the common Allied concepts were "theater" and "operation", and formally-defined "campaign" was purely internal to US. Stan Shebs

 * I am experimenting a little here, and deliberately chose a shorter campaign as guinea pig. The idea is that this is a finer-grained rendition that accounts for the times in-between the famous battles - the "days of boredom" in between the "moments of terror", as it were. :-)  Organizing by campaign is perhaps not as obvious to the average reader, but it has the advantage of accounting for all days of the war.  I think you're right that it will need some kind of umbrella article to join the campaigns together.  -sts

 * I agree. I've actually had that same thing in mind for the South Pacific War for some time: single-battle articles on (among others) Pearl Harbor, fall of the Phillipines and barious other parts of SE Asia, then the Battle of the Coral Sea, Midway, Milne Bay, Guadalcanal, Kokoda, Buna/Gona/Sananda, each of them designed to lead onto the next one in a more-or-less continuous narrative, with next battle and previous battle links at the bottom (the same way that it's done for Kings of England or US Presidents)and with a top-level entry to tie them all together. But there aren't enough complete Pacific Theatre articles to do this yet.Tannin

 * Another thought, to tie into military strategy; there was a whole series of plans that occasionally intersected with reality, and one could have an article or two describing the various plans and then cross-linking to articles about what actually happened. -sts

 * Yep. That gets tricky though, especially with Montgomery. He was actually quite good at adapting his plans as he went along (Second Alemain is an excellent example), but he had a mania for rewriting history after the battle so that he could pretend he planned the whole thing exactly the way it turned out. And, just to make it harder, sometimes he did plan the whole thing just the way it turned out. We certainly should look at the major invasion plans that didn't take place, but it could get us into pretty deep water if we try that on a tactical level! Tannin

 * Amen. The cogent summary is sorely needed though; the toplevel article makes it all sound like a triumphant march to victory, and it will be an eye-opener for some readers to hear about the arguing and fingernail-chewing that went on in the high command. Stan Shebs

Nearly Every Continental European war that the English/British have fought has involved a Northern France Campaign so I have moved it to Northern France Campaign (1944) to avoid confusion.

why Northern France? If an article is going to be written which about the campaing in France after the break-out of Normandy, shouldn't in be called the French Campaing? By late summer 1944 the Western Front stretched from the North Sea to Switzerland and had 3 Army Groups. Shouldn't it also cover the U.S. 6th Army Group once control was passed from AFHQ to SHAEF and never went anywhere near North France; Or does it only refer to the British 21st Army Group and the American 12th Army Group?

The British normally refer to this action as part of the North West European Campaign of which there are two in World War II 1939-1940 and 1944-1945 (sigh!)

It is arguable if a campaign should be described by country, it is often better to do it by lines, both natural and man made, or by a campaign season. This is because plans are laid to overcome barriers like the Siegfried Line or the Rhine and how to proceed to the next barrier, or lets hunker down for the winter and attack in the spring, rather than "today we are leaving France so we had better have another campaign". In Europe sometimes a natural barrier is the boarder (like the Pyrenees) but in North West Europe the natural barriers are not on the boarders of countries. The alternative of two campaigning seasons, 1944 and 1945, with the Battle of the Bulge in the middle, is probably a better way to divide the fighting on this front than by camaigns by country. Philip Baird Shearer 15:21, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * "Northern France Campaign" is what the US Army calls it, for the purpose of awarding medals, recording unit histories, etc. As part of that, they bound it by precise dates, even though the fighthing was continuous. As far as I know, no other nation in any other war has given it this exact name, as a proper name (thus we capitalize the "C") so it's unique and doesn't need the "(1944)". If one were to be really precise about all this, Western Front (WWII) would be the overall description while this article would confine itself to the campaign as defined by the US Army, then link down from here down to specific incidents, such as the siege of Metz. Your points are well-made, but you'd have to convince the Army to change its designation. :-) Stan 16:00, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

No I don't, because:
 * any Northern France campaing article is likly to have captials if the author thinks it is THE only Northern France Campaing. I'll give you an example what would you call the campaign of which the Battle of Agincourt was a part? What about when the next time American invade France and capture Paris, what will they call it ;-)
 * it is done all over the place in Wikipedia, for example with the Army groups mentioned above, the US and British Armies did not call their army groups the American 12th Army Group and the British 21st Army Group the nation prefixes are tagged on in here so that they can be identified in Wikipedia.

If this is to be an article just about the US camapign honours then perhapse it should be moved to a name like US Northern France Campaign, You can then have a whole list of them, but the discussion above is about expanding this article to be much more than just the specific article about a US campaign honour. BTW do US forces get battle honours or just campaign honours? Philip Baird Shearer 16:52, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I've had some debates with Phillip on this issue and I think we've reached a compromise. What I propose is that we loosely use the U.S. campaign time periods (especially useful for redirects and tend to break quite well), but we give them neutral names.  As an example, I'm currently working on Battle of the Siegfried Line, which is basically the U.S. Rhineland Campaign, but because it's not using the official name, I can both include the actions of the British forces to the north and move the starting and ending dates a little bit (for example, I don't want to break the Lorraine Campaign, so I include it entirely within the Battle of the Siegfried Line).

 * We just need to come up with suitable names for this and the Central European Campaign (The Southern France Campaign, being conducted by the American 6th Army Group, I think can keep a non neutral name). Oberiko 14:12, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Moving the page
I'm going to move this page to Allied breakout and pursuit from Normandy. I know it's a bit long winded, but it's about the best non-ambigious, country-neutral name I can think of at the moment. Oberiko 03:35, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd like to revoke that statement. I think most of this page should probably be removed, as Operation Overlord covers most of the Northern France Campaign.

There is a lot of missing information in this article as well as egregious errors. Following is what really happened from somebody who was there.

The Northern France Campaign of World War II began on July 25, 1944, with General Omar Bradley launching Operation COBRA to break out from the Normandy beachhead, and concluded on September 14 with Belgium and most of France liberated from German rule.Operation Cobra was spearheaded by the First Army not General Patton's Third Army which did not enter the Battle for France until early August 1944.

The First Army Divisions involved in Operation Cobra were the 4th US Infantry Division in the center of the attack and the 9th and 30th Infantry Divisions on the flanks of the 4th. Because of the nature of the terrain General Bradley decided to launch the attack with three Infantry divisions rather than with his armored divisions. Backing up the attacking Infantry divisions were the 2nd and 3d Armored Divisions and the 1st Infantry Division which had been motorized for the attack.

The attack was preceded by a massive bombardment by 2 and 4 engine bombers. The ground area to be targeted was marked by fighter bombers dropping bombs. The smoke from those bombs obscured the St.LO - Perrier Road which marked the division between the German defense line and our own front line troops. Succeeding waves of planes dropped bombs on our own troops wounding and killing many of them including Lieutenant General Leslies McNair who was at the front as an observer. General McNair was the highest ranking officer killed in a combat zone in WW II. The 30th and 4th Divisions suffered terrible casualties from the missiles dropped by our own bombers but despite that the 8th Regiment of the 4th Division was able to make a penetration of about 8/10 of a mile which was unheard of in the fighting in the hedgerows. Following that initial break in the German defense, troops of the 4th Division's 22nd Regiment mounted the tanks of the 2nd Armored Division and exploited and widened the breakthrough. The 3d Armored and 1st Infantry also helped to expand the breakthrough and turn it into a breakout.

The German 7th Army in Normandy now realized that their defense line in France was no longer tenable and they began a massive retreat toward the Seine River. Much of the German units were captured in the Falaise pocket but more could have been captured if General Bradley had not been fearful of wounding and killing troops of the British and Canadians advancing from the North.

The race to liberate France was now on. It was so rapid that the Germans could not establish a defense line along the Seine River and the city of Paris was liberated on August 25 by the 2nd French Armored Division and the US 4th Infantry Division of the US First Army. Once Paris was liberated American troops moved northeast to liberate Rheims and cross the Belgian border liberating Bastogne and St. Vith which later became famous place names during the Battle of the Bulge.

I was with the 4th Infantry Division when it crossed the German Border on September 11,1944. Other divisions followed a few days later so I would say that it is accurate to write that the Battle of Northern France ended on Sept. 14, 1944.

For information on the W.W.II battles that immediately preceded it see Battle of Normandy.

After a slow start reminiscent of the previous month's stalemate, the German line finally broke under the assault of the VII an V Corps of the US First Army. and on July 30 the Americans entered the town of Avranches at the bottom end of the Cotentin Peninsula. South and west of Avranches the countryside was open, ideal for tanks. Patton poured the VIII and XV Corps through the narrow passage (Germans still being dug in east of Avranches), corps and division commanders personally directing traffic at times.

The 6th Armored Division went northwest to capture St Malo and Brest, while the 4th Armored Division went south to Rennes and St Nazaire. Initially, this was Patton's sole mission, but on August 3 he made a momentous decision to leave only minimal forces to mop up Brittany and move everything else to the East as quickly as possible.

The German 7th Army counterattacked at the small town of Mortain on the night of August 6 That attack threatened to cut off the 3d Army from the 1st Army but it was repulsed by the 30th Division aided by 4th Division artillery and the 22nd Regiment of the 4th Division plus rocket firing British Typhoon fighter planes. Units of the 3rd Army were already east of Mortain, and continued to press on. By August 16 the 1st Army had closed on Argentan, while the British had captured Falaise just to the North. Although the Germans began frantically withdrawing from the "Falaise Pocket", the Americans and British met on August 19, killing about 6,000 Germans and taking some 50,000 prisoner.

On the same day elements of 3rd Army reached the Seine, and on August 25 Paris was liberated. By August 31 the Meuse River and the Marne River had been crossed. At this point the supply lines were stretched very thin, and the primary limit to progress was fuel for the tanks.

Merge micro-articles?
I think it would be good to merge all the tiny, untended stubs that I just put in the "See also" list into this article, to provide an integrated narrative of the campaign rather than a collection of fragments. — B.Bryant 04:28, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

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