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Andrei Tupolev

Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev (Андрей Николаевич Туполев; 10 November 1888 – 23 December 1972) was a Russian and later Soviet aeronautical engineer known for his pioneering aircraft designs as the director of the Tupolev Design Bureau.

Tupolev was an early pioneer of aeronautics in Russia and served as a protégé of Nikolay Zhukovsky. Tupolev designed or oversaw the design of more than 100 types of civilian and military aircraft in the Soviet Union over 50 years, some of which set 78 world records. Tupolev produced many notable designs such as the Tu-2, Tu-16, Tu-95, and Tu-104, and the reverse engineered Tu-4.

Tupolev was highly honoured in the Soviet Union and awarded various titles and honours including the Hero of Socialist Labor three times, Order of Lenin eight times, Order of the Red Banner of Labour two times, made an academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences in 1953, and a Colonel-General of the Soviet Air Force in 1968. Tupolev was also honoured outside the Soviet Union as an honorary member of the British Royal Aeronautical Society and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics in recognition of his work. In 2018, Vnukovo International Airport was formally renamed to Vnukovo Andrei Tupolev International Airport in his honour.

Early life

Andrei Nikolayevich Tupolev was born on 10 November 1888 in Pustomazovo (Пустомазово), a village near the city of Kimry in Tver Governorate, Russian Empire, the sixth of seven children born to his Russian parents. Tupolev's father, Nikolai Ivanovich Tupolev (1842-1911), was a native of Surgut, who worked as a notary for the governorate. Nikolai had studied law at St. Petersburg University, but was expelled after the assassination of Alexander II for his ties to revolutionaries despite not being involved in their actions. Tupolev's mother, Anna Vasilievna (née Lisitsyna) (1850-1928) was born in Torzhok in the family of a judicial investigator, and graduated from the Mariinsky Gymnasium in Tver. Anna's parents purchased the small estate in Pustomazovo where Tupolev was born. After first being educated at home, Tupolev studied at the Gymnasium in Tver and finished in 1908. Tupolev then applied for courses at two Russian universities: Imperial Moscow Technical School (IMTU ИМТУ) and the Emperor Nicholas II Moscow State University of Railway Engineering. Tupolev was accepted at both, but ultimately chose to attend at IMTU.

In 1909, Tupolev began studying aerodynamics under the Russian aviation pioneer Nikolay Zhukovsky, and volunteered for the Aeronautical workshop (Kruzhok) headed by Zhukovsky. In 1910, together with his workshop friends, Tupolev built and test piloted his first glider. During his workshop days, Tupolev also built a wind tunnel which led to the formation of an aerodynamic laboratory at IMTU. In 1911, Tupolev was accused of taking part in revolutionary activities, including demonstrations and distribution of subversive literature, and was arrested. Tupolev was later released on condition that he return to his family home in Pustomazovo. Tupolev was only allowed to return to IMTU in 1914, studying during World War I and the Russian Revolution. Tupolev completed his studies in 1918 and was awarded the degree of Engineer-Mechanic when he presented his thesis on the development of seaplanes. By 1920, the IMTU had been renamed the Moscow Higher Technical School (MVTU) and Tupolev was teaching a course there on the basics of aerodynamic calculations.

Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute
Tupolev was a leading figure of the Moscow-based Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute (TsAGI; Центральный аэро-гидродинамический институт; ЦАГИ) from 1929 until his death in 1972. The Central Design Office or TsKB (Центральное конструкторское бюро; ЦКБ) based there produced bombers for the Soviet Air Force and some airliners, which in the years before World War II and especially in his 1930s-era designs, were based partially on the all-metal aircraft design concepts pioneered by Hugo Junkers. In 1925, Tupolev designed a twin-engine bomber, the TB-1, which was considered one of the most advanced designs of the time. By 1934, Tupolev had led the design bureau that designed the largest aircraft flying in the world at the time, the 63-meter wingspan, eight-engined Maksim Gorki, again built with the Junkers metal structure airframe concepts. In 1937, an improved version of the earlier TB-1, the four-engined TB-3, made a landing at the North Pole. As the number of qualified aircraft designers increased, Tupolev set up his own office, producing a number of designs designated with the prefix ANT (АНТ) from his initials.

Sharashka
However, on 21 October 1937, Tupolev was arrested together with Vladimir Petlyakov and the entire directorate of the TsAGI and EDO during the Great Purge on trumped up charges of sabotage, espionage and of aiding the Russian Fascist Party. Many of his colleagues were executed but Tupolev himself was imprisoned. In 1939, Tupolev was moved from a prison to an NKVD sharashka for aircraft designers in Bolshevo near Moscow, where many surviving ex-TsAGI people had already been sent to work. The sharashka soon moved to Moscow and was dubbed "Tupolevka" after Tupolev, its most prominent inmate. In 1940, Tupolev was tried and convicted with a ten-year sentence, and during this time he developed the Tupolev Tu-2 which would become one of the most important aircraft of World War II. Tupolev was released in July 1941 around the time of the German invasion of the Soviet Union to "conduct important defence work" but was not fully rehabilitated by the Soviet state until 1955, two years after Joseph Stalin's death.

Post-war
Tupolev headed the B-4 project, as it was initially designated, to reverse engineer the American Boeing B-29 Superfortress strategic bomber, which had been the first aircraft to deliver a nuclear weapon. The Soviet Union had repeatedly asked for B-29s through the World War II Lend Lease program but these requests were all denied by the US. Tupolev succeeded in the complex task of re-engineering the design with Russian engines, weapons, equipment and airfoil sections, while using available metric sheetmetal which required a nearly complete redesign as the original had been built to imperial measurements, while new alloys also had to be brought into production. They used four B-29s which had come down in Soviet controlled territory as references, after having sustained light damage while bombing Japan in 1945. Tupolev's own design for the role had been ignored in the interest of getting the new long range bomber into service as rapidly as possible to respond to the multiple illegal American overflights, mostly with Martin PBM-5 Mariners that had already begun, and the overt threat of nuclear attack. Tupolev had several examples of the resulting Tu-4 flying in time for the 1947 May Day parade.

By the time of his rehabilitation on 9 April 1955, Tupolev had designed and was about to start testing his unique turboprop strategic bomber, the Tu-95. In the following years, Tupolev overcame competition from Vladimir Myasishchev and his M-4 series of jet-powered strategic bombers, to get the Tu-16 design into service. This was in part thanks to Tupolev's close rapport with Nikita Khrushchev, the new leader of the Soviet Union who had denounced Stalin's terror, of which Tupolev had been a victim. At about the same time, Tupolev introduced into service the Tu-104, the world's second operational production jet airliner.

Later years and death
After Khruschev's removal from office in late 1964 and the rise of Leonid Brezhnev, the ageing Tupolev gradually lost positions at the centres of Soviet power to rivals in the aircraft industry. The prestigious Tu-144 programme enjoyed top level support until 1973, as did the important Tu-154 airliner, but the favored position the Tupolev Design Bureau enjoyed through Tupolev's personal political connections was largely eclipsed by the Ilyushin aircraft manufacturing and design company. To his contemporaries, Tupolev was known as a witty but crude master of obscene vocabulary who invariably and energetically insisted on fast and adequate technical fixes at the expense of scholastic ideal solutions. A hallmark of Tupolev was to get an aeroplane into service very rapidly, then began an often interminable process of improving the shortcomings of the "quick and dirty" initial design. To his competitors among the Soviet aircraft design community, he was known above all as politically astute; a shrewd and unforgiving rival.

Tupolev died on 23 December 1972 and was buried in Novodevichy Cemetery in Moscow.

Memorials
Various streets in cities across the Eastern Bloc were named in honour of Tupolev, as well as one in Western Europe, the Tupolevlaan near Amsterdam Airport Schiphol. In 1973, the Kazan Aviation Institute was named after Tupolev, and a monument of him was erected in Kazan in a public square at the intersection of Dekabristov, Gagarin and Korolev Streets. In 1979, a bust of Tupolev was erected at a public square in Kimry, near his birthplace Pustomazovo which no longer exists. Another memorial to Tupolev was erected in the estimated location of Pustomazovo in the present-day Ustinovo, north of Kimry in Kimrsky District, Tver Oblast. The local high school in Ustinovo was renamed after Tupolev and a memorial plaque was installed. In 1988, the Soviet Union issued a postage stamp dedicated to Tupolev. The 1979 biographical film Poema o kryl'yakh (Поэма о крыльях) directed by Daniil Khrabrovitsky is about the life and works of Tupolev and Igor Sikorsky, the Russian-American aviation pioneer. Prospekt Tupoleva, the main avenue in the Aviatsionny microdistrict of Domodedovo located next to Domodedovo Airport, was named after Tupolev. A memorial mural of Tupolev was painted on the side of the 20 Prospekt Tupoleva apartment building. In 2018, Vnukovo International Airport in Moscow was formally renamed to Vnukovo Andrei Tupolev International Airport.

On December 1, 2022, in honor of the 100th anniversary of aircraft designer Andrei Tupolev, his first monument was opened in Moscow. He appeared next to the building of the design bureau on the embankment of Academician Tupolev in the square of the same name. The sculpture is made of bronze and represents the figure of an aircraft designer and the outline of a Tu-144 taking off.

Personal life
Tupolev was married to Yuliya Nikolaevna Tupoleva (née Zheltyakova) until her death in 1962. Tupolev's daughter Yuliya (1920–2011) was a doctor who was awarded the title of Honored Doctor of the Russian Federation. Tupolev's son Alexei (1925-2001) was a successful pioneering aircraft designer who designed the Tupolev Tu-144 supersonic passenger jet, and helped design the Buran space shuttle and the Tu-2000 long-range heavy bomber.

Tupolev was never a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union despite his status and being elected to several deputy positions.

Awards and honors

 * Hero of Socialist Labour, three times (1945, 1957, 1972)
 * Eight Orders of Lenin (1933, 1945, 1947, January 1949, December 1949, 1953, 1958, 1968)
 * Order of the October Revolution (1971)
 * Order of the Red Banner of Labour, twice (1927, 1933)
 * Order of the Red Star (1933)
 * Order of the Badge of Honour (1936)
 * Order of Suvorov, 2nd class (1944)
 * Order of the Patriotic War, 1st class (1943)
 * Lenin Prize (1957)
 * Stalin Prize (1943, 1948, 1949, 1952)
 * USSR State Prize (1972)
 * Order of Georgi Dimitrov (People's Republic of Bulgaria, 1964)
 * Laureate of the Zhukovskii Academy of Sciences of the USSR (1958)
 * Gold Medal of the FAI Aviation (1958)
 * Leonardo da Vinci Prize (1971)
 * Gold Medal of the Society of the founders of Air France (1971)
 * Honorary Fellow of the Royal Aeronautical Society of Great Britain (1970) and the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (1971)
 * Honorary Citizen of Paris (1964), New York and the city of Zhukovsky, Moscow Oblast (1968)
 * Inducted into the International Air & Space Hall of Fame at the San Diego Air & Space Museum in 1988.

Aircraft designed by Andrei Tupolev
''List (partial) of retired or active aircraft designed or made by aviation designer/engineer Andrei Tupolev; incl. both military and civilian planes, jets and other aircraft:''
 * Tupolev Tu-2
 * Tupolev Tu-16
 * Tupolev Tu-22
 * Tupolev Tu-95/Tupolev Tu-116
 * Tupolev Tu-104
 * Tupolev Tu-114
 * Tupolev Tu-124
 * Tupolev Tu-126
 * Tupolev Tu-134

Literature

 * "S. P. Korolev. Encyclopedia of life and creativity" - edited by C. A. Lopota, RSC Energia. S. P. Korolev, 2014 ISBN 978-5-906674-04-3

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Walla Walla University

Walla Walla University is a private Adventist university in College Place, Washington. The university has five campuses throughout the Pacific Northwest. It was founded in 1892 and is affiliated with the Seventh-day Adventist Church.

The university has an annual enrollment of around 1,700 students. It is accredited by the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities and is also denominationally accredited. Walla Walla University offers more than 100 areas of study including preprofessional degrees and four graduate programs.

History
In 1887, W.W. Prescott became the first education secretary of the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. He noticed that Seventh-day Adventist schools were opening all over the place without a plan for long-term success, and decided to encourage these new Adventist schools to consolidate into larger, regional institutions that would stand a better chance of survival. In 1890, Prescott visited the Pacific Northwest and asked the three Adventist schools there to merge; and after overcoming local opposition, the Adventist schools in Coquille, Portland, and Milton, all in Oregon, agreed to merge. A committee chose to place the new school on forty acres of land located just west of Walla Walla, Washington that were donated for the school. The new school opened on December 7, 1892, named Walla Walla College, and Prescott was named the first president. However, Prescott was also president of two other institutions at the time, so Edward A. Sutherland, the principal, took over running the school's day-to-day activities and eventually became the second president of the college.

On the first day, Walla Walla College offered all education from elementary up to the first two years of college; total enrollment was 101, with six teachers. All classes were run out of the four-storey tall administration building, deliberately built tall so that it could be seen from the city of Walla Walla. Sutherland focused on following the counsels of Adventist prophetess Ellen G. White as closely as possible, and under his direction the school became the first to offer an exclusively vegetarian diet. Likewise, he emphasized manual labour for the students. Initially school finances were shaky, but the manual labour of the students eventually provided sufficient income to stabilize the school's finances. The school's first graduation was held in 1896; three students graduated.

The school quickly celebrated a number of important milestones. In 1895, the school became the first Adventist institution to allow a brass ensemble to play during church services. In 1899, the first college bakery opened. In 1901, Walla Walla College was incorporated. In 1905, Marion E. Cady became the school's eighth president, and under his leadership the school expanded its college course offerings to a full four-year college program; by 1909, the college celebrated its first baccalaureate graduate. Cady also stabilized the school's finances, which resulted in the college paying off its debt in 1909. However, in 1910 the school suffered the first of many fires, when the power plant burned down. In 1911, Ernest Kellogg took over as president, and under his leadership the academic program of the college was further strengthened; elementary and high school classes were moved to separate buildings, and the school received accreditation from the University of Washington in 1913 for its high school; in that same year, enrollment reached 400 students. Kellogg designed the school's seal, and under Kellogg, the first yearbook was published, the first student newspaper was published, the student association was founded, and the alumni association was created. The first school gym opened when Kellogg retired in 1917; the current cafeteria building is named after him.

In 1919, a fire destroyed the top floor of the school's administration building. In the 1920s, Walla Walla College pursued accreditation for its college program, receiving accreditation for the first two years of its college program and also winning accreditation for its teacher training program. However, the college met opposition from the church over its pursuit of accreditation, and suspended its application. During this time period, OPS and AGA (dorm clubs) were founded, the Johnson Music Conservatory was built, and a fire burned down the women's dorm. In the 1930s, Walla Walla College again pursued accreditation, and by 1935 it received accreditation for its full college program; in this same year, the high school separated from the college and became Walla Walla Valley Academy, leaving the school strictly a college. By this time, Walla Walla College was the largest Seventh-day Adventist college in the world. Walla Walla went through further conflicts with Adventist authorities, which reached an apex in 1938, when several theology professors were fired because they were considered heterodox. President William Martin Landeen resigned.

In 1939, the Columbia Auditorium opened, a popular performing arts venue. In the 1940s, a number of important developments helped found some of Walla Walla's most popular programs. An airfield was built in 1942 which led to the start of Walla Walla's aviation program. In 1944, the present library building was completed, and in 1947 the present boys dorm was built. In 1945, the village that had grown up to support the college was incorporated as the city of College Place, Washington. In 1947, the university opened up the first school of engineering in the Seventh-day Adventist church, and the first physical education program started around the same time. Also in 1947, the school opened its first satellite campus, when it began its school of nursing at the Portland Sanitarium, today Adventist Health Portland. In 1948, the college's first master's program was offered in Biology, and a master's degree in Education began two years later. A second satellite campus was opened in 1954 at Rosario Beach in Anacortes, Washington, for the marine biology program. Enrollment more than doubled in the post-war years, reaching 1,300 by 1950.

Growth slowed in the 1960s. A church was built in 1962, the present-day University Church. The college radio station, KGTS, began broadcasting in 1963, as the first FM-radio station in the Walla Walla Valley. Several buildings were built towards the end of the decade. The college also began to liberalize its rules, allowing its female students more freedom in how they dressed, and also hired its first full-time black professor. In 1971, the university's engineering school was granted accreditation.

In the 1970s, the college ran into financial difficulties; a number of college industries were closed, sold, or privatized. A fire damaged the women's dorm, and in 1978 a fire destroyed the Columbia Auditorium. Enrollment reached 2,000 by the middle of the decade. In the 1980s, WWC established an endowment fund in 1987. Also in 1987, a graduate program in social work began.

In 2007, the school was renamed Walla Walla University. Today enrollment fluctuates just under 2,000 students who are served by over 200 faculty and staff, across the university's five campuses.

Presidents
Past presidents of Walla Walla University:

 * William Prescott (1892–1894)
 * Edward A. Sutherland (1894–1897)
 * Emmett J. Hibbard (1897–1898)
 * Walter R. Sutherland (1898–1900)
 * Edwin L. Stewart (1900–1902)
 * Charles C. Lewis (1902–1904)
 * Joseph L. Kay (1904–1905)
 * Marion E. Cady (1905–1911)
 * Ernest C. Kellogg (1911–1917)
 * Walter I. Smith (1917–1930)
 * John E. Weaver (1930–1933)
 * William M. Landeen (1933–1938)
 * George W. Bowers (1938–1955)
 * Percy W. Christian (1955–1964)
 * William H. Shephard (1964–1968)
 * Robert L. Reynolds (1968–1976)
 * N. Clifford Sorenson (1976–1985)
 * H. J. Bergman (1985–1990)
 * Niels-Erik Andreasen (1990–1994)
 * W. G. Nelson (1994–2001)
 * John C. Brunt (2001)
 * N. Clifford Sorenson (2001–2002)
 * Jon L. Dybdahl (2002–2006)
 * John K. McVay (2006–2012)
 * Steve Rose (2012)
 * John K. McVay (2013–present)

Academics
Walla Walla University is accredited by the Northwest Commission on Colleges and Universities, and also by the Adventist Accrediting Association. Some of WWU's schools and departments are also accredited by agencies specific to their field. WWU has authorization from both the state of Washington and the state of Oregon.

WWU offers pre-professional programs, Associate degrees, Bachelor's degrees, and Master's degrees. The largest undergraduate programs are the nursing, engineering, business, biology, and education schools.

Walla Walla University is administratively divided into six schools and several departments.

School of Business
The school of business offers a Bachelor of Business Administration among many other bachelor's degree programs, and is accredited by the Accreditation Council of Business Schools & Programs. The school employs ten faculty, and currently operates from Bowers Hall.

School of Education and Psychology
The school of education and psychology offers bachelor's degrees in education and psychology, and also offers master's degrees in education. The school prepares students to graduate with a Washington State teacher's certificate, but also offers the option to receive an Adventist education certificate. The school employs 16 professors and support staff, and can be found in Smith Hall.

Edward F. Cross School of Engineering
The Edward F. Cross School of Engineering was founded in 1947 by Edward F. Cross, for whom the school was later named. It is the first engineering school in the Adventist education system. It has been accredited by the Engineering Accreditation Commission of ABET since 1971. The school offers a Bachelor of Engineering with four possible concentrations: civil, mechanical, electrical, and computer; and also offers a major in bioengineering. The school employs 12 full-time professors and operates from the Chan Shun Pavilion. The school also sponsors a chapter of Engineers Without Borders and the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Walla Walla University's IEEE student branch collaborates closely with the IEEE Richland Section and PNNL at Tri-Cities, WA.

School of Nursing
The nursing school was founded in 1947. It is accredited by the Commission on Collegiate Nursing Education. The school offers a Bachelor of Nursing, which involves two years of study at the College Place campus, followed by two years of study at the Portland nursing campus, where nursing students work at Adventist Health Portland.

Wilma Hepker School of Social Work and Sociology
The school of social work and sociology offers bachelors, masters, and doctoral degrees in social work, and a major in sociology. Founded in 1975 by Wilma Hepker, the school has been accredited by the Council on Social Work Education since 1980, and operates satellite campuses in Billings and Missoula in Montana for its master's degree program.

School of Theology
The school of theology is one of Walla Walla University's oldest programs. It has employed a number of important Seventh-day Adventist theologians, including Alden Thompson; and has graduated others, including Charles Scriven.

Other programs
Walla Walla University's Department of Biological Sciences is one of its most popular programs, and is important to the university due to its operation of the Rosario Beach Marine Campus as well as being the university's oldest master's degree program.

Campuses
Walla Walla University has five campuses. They are located in Washington, Oregon, and Montana.

College Place Main Campus
The first campus of Walla Walla University remains its central campus. Located outside of Walla Walla, Washington, the campus was initially 40 acres before being expanded to the present-day 83 acres, in addition to 592 total acres in the local area. The city of College Place, Washington sprung up shortly after the founding of the campus in 1892 to support the students and workers of the university. Nearly the entire undergraduate program of Walla Walla University is located on this campus, and the graduate program in education is also located on this campus. The oldest building on campus is Village Hall, built in 1920 as the university church. The campus includes Martin Airfield, opened in 1942 for the aviation department; and KGTS, the campus radio station, which heads the Positive Life Radio network that operates across Washington, Oregon, and Idaho.

Portland nursing campus
The School of Nursing operates a campus in Portland, Oregon adjacent to Adventist Health Portland, where third and fourth-year nursing students complete their practicum. Opened in 1947, the campus includes a small dormitory for nursing students, named Hansen Hall.

Rosario Beach Marine Laboratory
The department of Biology operates a 40-acre campus on Rosario Beach, next to Anacortes, Washington. The campus operates during the summer, offering courses in biology and marine biology. The campus also supports courses in scuba diving. The campus was purchased in 1954.

Montana campuses
The school of social work and sociology operates two campuses in Montana, at Missoula and Billings, in support of its graduate program in social work. The Missoula campus opened in 1997, and the Billings campus opened in 2001.

Student government
The Associated Students of Walla Walla University (ASWWU) was founded in 1914 as the Collegiate Association. They have published the school yearbook, Mountain Ash, beginning in 1915 as the Western Collegian, and since 1917 under its current title. They have published the school newspaper, The Collegian, published under that title since 1916. ASWWU has also published the school directory, The Mask, since 1954.

Athletics
The Walla Walla athletic teams are called the Wolves. The university is a member of the National Association of Intercollegiate Athletics (NAIA), primarily competing in the Cascade Collegiate Conference (CCC) since the 2015–16 academic year. The Wolves previously competed as an NAIA Independent within the Association of Independent Institutions (AII) from 2008–09 to 2014–15, and in the Pacific Northwest College Conference (PNCC) from 1994–95 to 1999–2000. They also were a member in the United States Collegiate Athletic Association (USCAA) from 2004–05 to 2012–13; and in the National Christian College Athletic Association (NCCAA) from 1997–98 to 2007–08.

Walla Walla competes in eight intercollegiate varsity sports: Men's sports include basketball, cross country, golf and soccer; while women's sports include basketball, cross country, golf and volleyball.

Club sports
Unofficially, Walla Walla was affiliated with a men's ice hockey team, called the Wolfpack.

Campus Ministries
The Chaplain's Office of the university includes departments of Campus Ministries and Student Missions.

Student Missions
While Walla Walla University students have been involved in mission work from the very beginning, the modern Walla Walla University Student Missions program began in 1960 when they sent out their first student missionaries overseas. Today, Walla Walla University sends out between 50 and 90 student missionaries (SMs) each year, to locations around the world. Many Seventh-day Adventist schools in Micronesia are staffed primarily by Walla Walla University student missionaries.

Notable people
Alumni of WWU include business people such as Jeri Ellsworth, Peter Adkison and Forrest Preston, ornithologist Pamela C. Rasmussen, ophthalmologist and Order of Canada recipient Howard Gimbel, theologian Alden Thompson, and former lieutenant governor of Guam Michael Cruz.

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Buckeye

Buckeye may refer to:

Relating to the US state of Ohio

 * Buckeye (nickname), a nickname for residents of the U.S. state of Ohio, the "buckeye state"
 * Ohio State Buckeyes, the intercollegiate athletic teams of the Ohio State University
 * Brutus Buckeye, the mascot of the Ohio State University
 * Aesculus glabra, also known as the Ohio buckeye, Ohio's state tree
 * Cleveland Buckeyes, a Negro league baseball franchise, 1942–1950
 * Buckeyes, the athletic teams of Nelsonville-York High School, Nelsonville, Ohio

Arts and media

 * "Buckeye", a song by Lamb of God on the album Burn the Priest
 * Nathan "Buckeye" Heywood or Citizen Steel, a DC Comics character

Businesses

 * Buckeye Broadband, a cable company
 * Buckeye Industries, an American aircraft manufacturer
 * Buckeye Partners, a petroleum distributor based in Texas, US
 * Buckeye Steel Castings, a former steelmaker in Columbus, Ohio

Places

 * Buckeye, Arizona
 * Buckeye, California (disambiguation)
 * Buckeye, Colorado
 * Buckeye, Indiana
 * Buckeye, Iowa
 * Buckeye, Kansas
 * Buckeye, Kentucky
 * Buckeye, Missouri
 * Buckeye Township (disambiguation)
 * Buckeye, Washington
 * Buckeye, West Virginia
 * Buckeye, Ohio, which also houses the "Buckeye Furnace" and the Buckeye Furnace Covered Bridge
 * Buckeye Lake, Ohio
 * Buckeye Trail, a long-distance trail in Ohio
 * Buckeye–Shaker, a neighborhood of Cleveland, Ohio

Biology

 * Buckeye (tree), several tree species of the genus Aesculus
 * Buckeye chicken, a breed of chicken originating in Ohio
 * Buckeye rot of tomato
 * Junonia coenia, also called buckeye, a butterfly in the family Nymphalidae found in the United States and Canada

Other uses in science and technology

 * Buckeye, a named passenger train operated by the Pennsylvania Railroad between Cleveland, Ohio and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
 * Buckeye coupler, a railway car coupler
 * North American T-2 Buckeye, an aircraft

Other uses

 * Buckeye candy, a peanut butter and chocolate candy resembling the nut of a buckeye tree
 * Buckeye Division, or 37th Infantry Division, of the US Army
 * Garland Buckeye (1897–1975), former professional football and baseball player

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Why is Alan Thicke listed as being from Brampton? This is an urban myth. He was born in Kirkland Lake and went to high school at Elliot Lake, neither of which is anywhere near Brampton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.137.234 (talk) 05:49, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Note that the article doesn't claim Alan Thicke was born in Brampton. His stepfather (Dr. Brian Thicke) had (or still has) a medical practice in the City of Brampton. This is Alan Thicke's connection to Brampton. See: http://www.stirmedia.ca/screeningalanthicke.php for more information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.188.90.26 (talk) 15:13, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Economy Addition
I added Best Buy / Future shop to the list of major businesses a week ago and it was deleted. Best Buy / Future Shop operates their largest DC (warehouse) At Williams Parkway and Airport Road,(Future shop is a subsiduary of Bestbuy, the warehouse is joint). They employ 500-800 people through out the year depending on seasonal demand! If you add in the number of people working in stores, I am sure it would be over a 1000 people very easily, but even with just the DC alone, we are talking more people then many of the companies listed! Please leave them in the list!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.56.255.140 (talk) 14:51, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Population Mistake
"Population growth in Brampton

* 1858: 50   * 1922: 8,000 (according to Celebrating 150 Years) * 1949: 6,000 (according to Brampton: An Illustrated History) * 1959: 14,500   * 1963: 26,363    * 1967: 37,701    * 1978: 95,000    * 1983: 165,000    * 1985: 180,000    * 2002: 351,646    * 2005: 415,000    * 2031: 123,344,334,222,000 (est.)" I very highly doubt that brampton will have 123,344,334,222,000 people in 25 years.

Could we get the right date of incorporation here? -- Zoe
 * Yes. The City of Brampton has three "birthdates" - in 1973, it had the Centennial celebrations (the town incorporation in 1873) and in 2003, there was the sesqicentennial celebration, marking the 1953 incorporation as a village. Of course, 1974, the formation of the city, was also marked in 1999 for the 25th anniversary. The city really should pick one date and stick with it to mark. --Spmarshall42 00:55, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

123,344,334,222,000 people would probably crowd five earths, not to mention the Peel Region. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Arts Person of the Year
Does City of Brampton Arts Person of the Year refer to this Brampton or a different one in the world? Kingturtle 23:22 May 13, 2003 (UTC)
 * This one. -- Jay  (Reply)  00:05, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

 * BTW I moved (and updated) this list to Brampton Arts Council/Person of the Year. -- Robocoder 18:28, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Population accuracy?
Note the sign saying welcome to Brampton says the population is 386,000 and that was changed in 2004. However the mayor said in Brampton guradian (april,29th,2005) that the population of brampton is 412,000. Has brampton's population jumped by 100,000 since 1999????
 * Bet your bottom dollar it has. That's estimated, based on new homes and other records. Also, there's hundreds of homes in Brampton that are, shall we put it, "over capacity", and would likely boost the numbers a thousand higher. But such stats have never included people illegally in the country, or who deny existance in the census. --  user:zanimum

Brampton was such a only 220,000 people in 1995 i remember. Population climbing by 180,000 in ten years is insane. I think we should add two things about this page. One the growth and the demographics of the city which i very interested in knowing. Brampton is a growing city with a population confirmed over 400,000. Wow this city has grown alot. It all started in 1999 when the North of Brampton got developed a lot!!

750,000 population in 2010? Impossible! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.170.136 (talk) 22:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

to be merged (from "Bramalea")
Bramalea is the location of an automobile factory in Ontario, Canada, owned by DaimlerChrysler and originally developed by Renault for the manufacture of its large Premier sedan.

Schools in Brampton
Someone entered Lincoln Alexander as a school that lies in Brampton, however it's not, and actually lies in Malton (Mississauga). Also, a lot of the Catholic high schools were left out of the list. Image:Amsterdam4.jpg Image:Amsterdam2.jpg Image:UnionVillage4.jpg Image:Brampton, Ontario.jpg Image:CGCP1.jpg Image:RailroadSt1.jpg

Traffic
Some of the discussion of the traffic sounds more like the opinion of a frustrated commuter than an unbiased expert. Great Green Arkelseizure 21:30, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Can you find info from one? --  Zanimum 23:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

New Info Box

 * As per a request by user:Phil-hong I made this page a new, more updated looking info box. Because of the "interesting" format of Brampton's City Council, I'm a little torn on how to list the Councillors - Right now I have them all lumped together in two rows of cells "Regional" and "City" with their wards listed in brackets after their names (see current article page for example). Alternatively, each ward grouping could have their own cell row - like in the example below. Let me know which one you think looks better and we can either leave it, or switch it. Thanks pm_shef 23:24, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Like I said about the Infobox made for Vaughan, I am terribly impressed by your work. It certainly looks a lot better than the older tables. Given the EXTREMELY confusing ward system in Brampton, I think your idea in organising the wards like that is the best, because otherwise we'll have clutter. Phil-hong 20:56, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Unanimous vote
How long has this fact tag been up? How come no one has a citation? Shouldn't I remove the statement now? If not why not? Something like that needs a citation. Thanks. Wjhonson 00:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * It's been there since you put it there a few days ago. I suspect that the editor who added that information (WikiWoo) has been too busy with other issues to find a citation that quickly, especially since this may have been his least contentious contribution. --Gary Will 19:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't know where to add this but this paragraph seemed the most relevant given the options. I just wanted to say, I searched Brampton because I know it has a large Indian population. I was hoping to read a little about the history of the large Indian population. I also searched Wikitravel. I love Indian food and I am sure there are plenty of great Indian restaurants in Brampton. Sadly there was little information about the large Indian population on Wikitravel either. I am from Chicago and love to visit Devon street. If any Brampton residents happen to read this post and agree with me, please try and post some info on either site. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.21.196.197 (talk) 04:42, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Neither political nor any other hype doesn't belong in an encyclopedia
There is nothing "unprecedented" or "remarkable" about simple population growth that the City cannot cope with (due to the "Ontario" and confederate feds stealing all of our revenues, not abiding by their own laws, etc., and sorry, nothing in the Ontarios comes close to that compared to the City of Toronto).

Here is the population growth of the Canadas. See how many pages it takes before you manage to hit little Brampton under Vaughan (page 8), Barrie (page 9), Canmore (Alta.) (Town but with over 10,000 in population), Airdrie (Alta.) (City), with Brampton tied with Constance Lake 92 (Ont.) on page 14. Or in the GTA around real population growth, not worthless percentages of a whole 5 people amounting to 1000% population "% change":

Greater Toronto Area, Census Division and Census Subdivisions (Municipalities), 2001 and 1996 Censuses _______________________________________________________________________                                      Population         Pop     % of Name                         Type   2001       1996      Growth    GTA _______________________________________________________________________ 01-Toronto Division              2,481,494  2,385,421   96,073   48.83 _______________________________________________________________________ Toronto ................... C 2,481,494 2,385,421   96,073   48.83 _______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________ 02-Peel Regional Municipality      988,948    852,526  136,422   19.46 _______________________________________________________________________ Mississauga ............... C  612,925    544,382   68,543   12.06 Brampton .................. C  325,428    268,251   57,177    6.40 Caledon ................... T   50,595     39,893   10,702    1.00 _______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________ 04-York Regional Municipality      729,254    592,445  136,809   14.35 _______________________________________________________________________ Markham ................... T  208,615    173,383   35,232    4.11 Vaughan ................... C  182,022    132,549   49,473    3.58 Richmond Hill ............. T  132,030    101,725   30,305    2.60 Newmarket ................. T   65,788     57,125    8,663    1.29 Aurora .................... T   40,167     34,857    5,310    0.79 Georgina .................. T   39,263     34,777    4,486    0.77 Whitchurch-Stouffville .... T   22,008     19,835    2,173    0.43 East Gwillimbury .......... T   20,555     19,770      785    0.40 King ...................... TP  18,533     18,223      310    0.36 Chippewas of Georgina Island First Nation ...... R      273        201       72    0.01 _______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________ 05-Durham Regional Municipality    506,901    458,616   48,285    9.97 _______________________________________________________________________ Oshawa .................... C  139,051    134,364    4,687    2.74 Whitby .................... T   87,413     73,794   13,619    1.72 Pickering ................. C   87,139     78,989    8,150    1.71 Ajax ...................... T   73,753     64,430    9,323    1.45 Clarington ................ T   69,834     60,615    9,219    1.37 Scugog .................... TP  20,173     18,837    1,336    0.40 Uxbridge .................. TP  17,377     15,882    1,495    0.34 Brock ..................... TP  12,110     11,705      405    0.24 Mississaugas of Scugog Island ............ R       51          ¶        ¶    0.00 _______________________________________________________________________

_______________________________________________________________________ 11-Halton Regional Municipality    375,229    339,875   35,354    7.38 _______________________________________________________________________ Burlington ................ C  150,836    136,976   13,860    2.97 Oakville .................. T  144,738    128,405   16,333    2.85 Halton Hills .............. T   48,184     42,390    5,794    0.95 Milton .................... T   31,471     32,104     -633    0.62 _______________________________________________________________________ Municipality of Toronto          2,481,494  2,385,421   96,073   48.83 Rest of GTA                      2,600,332  2,243,462  356,870   51.17 _______________________________________________________________________ TOTAL                            5,081,826  4,628,883  452,943  100.00 _______________________________________________________________________ Source: Statistics Canada - Tables - Canada Population and Dwelling Counts (by about any way one wishes to view them)

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A whole 57,177 in pop growth from the 1996 Census to the 2001 Census. See how many other municipalities, just in the GTA, gained more; like the municipality of Toronto for example.

Try to keep it somewhat real. --S-Ranger 10:32, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

 * In response to your GTA comment, you're making little sense. The population growth of Toronto is staggeringly small compared to Brampton.  Brampton grew by 21.3% between the 1996 and 2001 censuses (and I believe the growth rate for 2001-2006 is actually a good deal higher than that).  Toronto grew by only 4%. As for Brampton and the rest of Ontario, I stand corrected, Brampton is not the second-fastest growing city in Ontario, it's the third (fourth if you include the Town of Richmond Hill, which is a town in name only).  That's still pretty good.  The whole issue of "remarkable" (which simply means that it's something you'd remark on) is to say it is a very fast-growing city. And it is.  Choose a different word if you must, but it's not a political word, it's simply a modifer of "growth" to show that it's pretty damn good growth, indeed. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 16:31, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

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 * "Remarkable" means "notably or conspicuously unusual; extraordinary: a remarkable change. (Dictionary.com). It does not simply mean something one remarks upon unless the context is, " remarked " or the like, which is explaining that someone else made a remark.  Like, "Osgoodelawyer remarked ..." or do you think, lawyer, that that means the same as "Osgoodelawyer is remarkable"? It means extraordinary, unusual, and there is nothing extraordinary or unusual or remarkable about Brampton period.  And it used to state unprecedented with no qualifier at all, as though Brampton's popuation growth, which isn't even as high as Toronto's is in reality, not "% change", has never occurred on the face of the planet at any point in history because there is no time qualifier either.  And even if "Brampton's population growth [which is not "% change"] is unprecedented in the GTA over the last 5 years" was stated, good luck finding a verifiable source for it.

 * Did you even read what I posted? After I specifically stated (and proved if you click on the link just above the table I posted above) that "% change" is totally worthless/meaningless in the Canadas (or Kshish 4 (B.C.) with 5700.0 in "% change" in population from the 1996 Census to the 2001 Census takes the cake in the Canadas), why would you point out what I already proved is nothing but hype; by going back to irrelevant "% change"?

Brampton gained 57,177 people from the 1996 Census to the 2001 Census, so even with its little population of only 325,428 residents in 2001, how can it possibly mean anything when the City of Toronto gained more people in reality, 96,073 from the 1996 to 2001 censuses, with a 2001 population of 2,481,494? You think that Brampton is going to "catch up with the City of Toronto's population" (or is at all remarkable; let alone unprecedented, which is what was stated) by not gaining as many people as the City of Toronto does and having nowhere close to its (irrelevant) resident population either?

And it's nothing against Brampton: it's simple reality with verifiable sources, which is what encyclopedias are for -- not hype. You probably "think" that I'm "hyping" Toronto but it's only because you have an inferiority complex of some sort against Toronto if that's the case. I just state the facts and make sure that they're verifiable.

Statistics Canada doesn't release updated population estimates for CSDs/municipalities (just CMAs) and the Assessment Office of the Ontario Ministry of Finance doesn't release any CSD/municipal population estimates; only for "counties"/Census Divisions (CDs). So amalgamate Peel into one municipality with one city hall and no regional government/council and it will be able to compare apples to apples, with verifiability, as Toronto can: because the municipality of Toronto is also a CD, unlike the rest of the GTA with its 24 (at minimum) municipal governments/councils and four regional governments/councils. --S-Ranger 16:53, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

And don't you ever pull this crap again: "I find Brampton's statistics credible. Prove they're not."

YOU PROVE THAT THEY ARE. YOU GET THE METHODOLOGIES, YOU MAKE DAMNED SURE THAT THEY ARE FROM A CREDIBLE SOURCE BECAUSE NO ONE CARES "WHAT YOU (or anyone else) HAPPEN TO THINK" AROUND AN ENCYCLOPEDIA. --S-Ranger 17:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Dear S-Ranger, you are dangerously close violating WP:NPA. You have certainly violated WP:CIVIL. Claiming that I have an inferiority complex is just ridiculous.  Your "shouting" above is also pretty uncalled for (and also the "threats" for me not to "pull this crap again").  I will "pull" what I find to be reasonable.

 * If you read, which you proved you do not regarding your first response, which is why I checked, you would see that I stated, "but it's only because you have an inferiority complex of some sort against Toronto if that's the case." I have no idea what the case is, but simply by taking offense to what I laid out, you must have an inferiority complex or the like against Toronto (or just a Brampton inferiority complex), because I stated, "if that's the case." So you're saying that it is the case?  If not, it doesn't aplly to you, so ignore it.

 * It's always interesting to see who does take offense to nothing they have been accused of. And you proved that you don't read (hence the caps; and I should have bolded it as well but didn't even mention a handle so how do you know I was referring to you?), which is exactly what I was trying to prove.  The first statement and proof above is all that was necessary.  Get proper verifiability (whomever, I wasn't addressing anyone) and that's that.  Don't and the 2001 population is all you've (whomever, it's not an email) got that is verifiable.

 * As for your claim that percentage change is meaningless by noting that some tiny communities grew by massive percentages, I can't possibly see how that means anything. That an Indian Reserve with a population of 1 in 1996 grew to 58 in 2001 (the Kshish 4 you refer to) cannot possibly be considered relevant when discussing the population growth of cities.  When compared to other municipalities in Ontario with significant or larger populations, Brampton is clearly growing very fast.

 * Brampton is a tiny community compared to Toronto. It's not ridiculous at all.  You just want it to be ridiculous because you can't figure out that "% change" means nothing when comparing the Sun to Pluto or an ocean to a puddle. The puddle may grow in area by 800% over 15 minutes, but who cares when comparing to oceans?  Even with the 2 million removed from Toronto's 2001 population, Brampton still doesn't have the population of the municipality of Toronto, which makes it a puddle and allows anyone else to claim that they have 'unprecedented' (your work?) population growth (which "% change" is not) compared to Brampton.

 * Just because you don't happen to find the population "% change", not growth, to be remarkable elsewhere doesn't mean a thing. I don't find Brampton to be remarkable around anything at all. Toronto has 8 times the population of Brampton (without including all of your commuters into this city), so anything with 8 times less the population of Brampton, 10 times less, 100 times less, so what?  "% change" is all that matters and Brampton has no population to speak of from my perspective (let alone a global perspective; which is the perspective of Wikipedia), so why should it be any different around anyone else looking at this page with 8 times less the population of Brampton (and much higher "% change" in population) or more, to claim that their population "growth" makes Brampton look like nothing, which is almost exactly what you said about Toronto's real population growth?

 * So what if Brampton happens to have more population than communities you find to be irrelevant, regarding their population % change? So does Toronto -- and I also told you and proved that the City of Toronto gained more in real population, which totally destroys your hype.  And hype is all it is. You're talking in circles and are making no sense at all.

 * As for your comments on remarkable not being what I said it was, er, your quoted "notably or conspicuously unusual" is an apt description of Brampton's population growth in percentage (which, despite your claims to the contrary, is an important indicator of growth). Whereas few cities in Ontario have a population growth of over 21%, Brampton's growth is, well, conspicuous.

 * Is the above sentence supposed to make sense? I've read it ten times and still have no idea what you're trying to say.  A dictionary proved you wrong on what "remarkable" means.  Period.  Go complain to the dictionary.  Do you know how many times I've seen these "tactics" around "Canadians" who simply cannot accept reality becauze it happens to offend them?  Give it up.  If you wish to express your opinions then go find some phpBB discussion board.  This is an encyclopedia and opinions mean nothing -- only verifiable facts.

 * First you claim that remarkable means a remark, just something that is remarked upon and you were proven wrong by a dictionary. Now you claim that "% change" in population is an important indicator, which goes right back to the irrelevance of total population and simply focues on "% change", which is exactly why I stated that it was/is worthless -- which you agree to by claiming that just because other communities have less in total population than Brampton that their "% change" in population is irrelevant. And that makes Brampton's % change in population irrelevant and you did it all on your own.

 * And finally, what the heck are "Canadas"? As far as I know, there has only been one Canada since 1867. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 18:03, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * "As far as you know" again -- which is not good enough for an encyclopedia. You have to know and back it up with credible sources, not assume/guess anything.  The Canadas are the reality of the fiction of the alleged singular "Canada" that is falling apart; again.  And "as far as you know" is wrong again.  Canada is the Union of Canada referred to in the British North America Act 1867; Upper Canada/Canada West and Lower Canada/Canada East.

 * The former British colony of New Brunswick, from which the colony of Nova Scotia was formed, joined the Union of Canada in 1867. Then the others followed and if you have not heard that Quebec wants to suceed from Canada and that Kenora wants to be part of Manitoba and that BC is going to suceed and "take Alberta with it" and then "we'll be sorry" (uh huh; they have no land claims at all other than as granted by the federal government as nothing but jurisdictional boundaries), as with the Ontarios, but obviously you know nothing about Canadian history either.  Nor is this the place to discuss it. And I'll call the Canadas whatever I feel like calling the mess; on talk pages around immature fools, not in mainspace articles.  You can see verifiable every time you edit anything and you are not only "close" to violating that, which is the #1 problem Wikipedia has, you are getting quite hysterical about it. --S-Ranger 19:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * 1) S-Ranger, not only was your use of "if that’s the case" grammatically misplaced, but it was also a "weasel phrase"—you were clearly at the very least suggesting, and likely accusing me of having an inferiority complex. You can't get out of responsibility for such statements by using weasel words.  Most intelligent people around here can read around technical use of language to get to the actual meaning. And we'll hold you to it.

 * 2) You're the one not making any sense. If Toronto has eight times the population of Brampton, then if it was growing like Brampton, one would expect it to have a population increase of eight times that of Brampton.  Clearly, that is not the case.  Speaking of cities in Ontario, Brampton has very high population growth.  If you read the sentence surrounding the use of the word that this whole thing started from, you'll see it was intended to show that Brampton was having a hard time dealing with its population growth.  Toronto has no trouble dealing with a population growth of 90-something thousand, but a growth of half that for Brampton is a big deal.  That's what the sentence was for, and you seem to miss that.  As for ignoring things like "Kshish 4", well, yes, of course we're going to ignore it.  It's irrelevant for the purposes of significant cities (and yes, clearly Brampton is nowhere near as big as Toronto, and clearly, culturally it is nothing next to Toronto, but that's not relevant to the issue, and you bringing it up furthers nothing in this discussion).

 * 3) Wow. I'm sorry you're having trouble understanding a simply-constructed sentence. I believe the dictionary made it very clear that "remarkable" was an acceptable use for the growth rate of Brampton. Yes, I think that "remarkable means something that is remarked upon", but not in the way you're thinking.  It's something that deserves to be remarked on, that is, something that it would be more than a passing comment  If Brampton's growth rate was, for instance, the average, then it wouldn't be remarkable.  That it is far above the average shows that it is remakable. Your quoted definition shows exactly that use.  Brampton's population is indeed Noticably or conspicuously unusual when compared to other cities of its size (and what else would it be useful to compare it to?).

 * 4) Um, no. My comment was, based on other cities of like population, the population growth in percentage is important.  The population growth of the Kshish 4 Indian Reserve from 1 to 58 is irrelevant to a discussion of population growth in cities.  In comparisons of like things (for instance, comparing the top ten municipalities in Ontario according to population), percentage change is certainly a relevant statistic.

 * 5) Indeed, there was more than one Canada prior to 1867, and this is why I said "since 1867". I'm perfectly aware of how Confederation occurred, and I'm perfectly aware that Canada is a federation and as such the provinces are autonomous in many respects.  I'm also quite aware of secessionist movements in Canada (although none outside of Quebec are much more than a thought), but I hardly see how this results in there being "Canadas".  Also, you used the word "Ontarios" as well.  Again, as far as I know, there is only one Ontario.  I've never heard anyone else refer to modern-day Canada or Ontario as being plural, so you seem to be making words up that nobody else uses, which kind of makes for difficult conversation. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 20:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * As I said, no hard feelings on this end and keep looking for that source. Something is bound to turn up sooner or later. --S-Ranger 22:06, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Where's the love, people? Brampton is my favorite city in North America, and I don't even live there. Gage park, The Mandarin on Biscayne Circle...you know it. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 21:24, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Brampton in the news
Brampton Governance Criticised for lack of Ethnic Diversity [Toronto Star, August 14, 2006]

If there is critism of this addition then lets discuss it here. This is notable and an important subject. That the corruption of Brampton by individuals leads to new stories such as these is notable. We may not be in a possition to publish opinions and POV about how corrupt people and systems are, but the notable events and statements that do get in the mainstream medea needs to be documented so that Wiki does not become a Soapboax of the establishment to use as more of its propaganda for free. They pay enough for their propaganda paying off politicians and local media to conceil and misrepresent the facts about their inherant corruption. But the obvious parts of the consequenhces of their corruption such as the UNATURAL make up of the Council and Staffing of Brampton, which is a mirror reflection of its godfather the Region of Peel should be properly reflected on Wiki as notable information.--Wiki The Humble Woo 18:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I explained to you on your talk page why the addition is unencyclopedic. It certainly does not deserve to be at the top of the page in its own section (a whole section for one sentence which is an incorrect summary of one article)!  I also explained how you are actually putting spin on the article, claiming it says something it does not.  Claiming that I am censoring information and vandalising the article after I made a clear edit summary and explained my edit to you on your talk page is just incivil and uncalled for, and you've been warned about claims of censorship and vandalism plenty of times already.  As for your rant, the makeup of Brampton City Council and Peel Regional Council has to do solely with the choice of those running for those offices, and the choices of the citizens in voting for them.  └ OzLawyer / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 18:17, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The article talks about exactly that kind of thing. Which exposes the corruption in Brampton and Peel Region in the manipulation of elections so that corrupt politicians tend to advance as the article clearly outlines if you read between the lines. You ARE CENSORING the information and using vandalism as your means of doing so. This is why I susspect you are a Laywer on the payroll of corrput government in Ontario posing as a law student. You are pushing POV and ensuring Wiki is misleading about what's published to help maintain the public in the dark about the truth behind Brampton and Peel Region which is that they are to Heart of ALL CORRUPTION in Canada. It accumulates there and all other systems are at work to keep their activities outside of public scrutiny. You are vandalizing the Bramton page as well as others. I would apreciate you leaving it without your censorship.--Wiki <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid; padding:0px 2px 2px 2px; color:white; background-color:darkred; font-weight:bold">The Humble Woo 00:54, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * WikiWoo, this has gone on long enough. Not only are your accusations of vandalism and censorship utterly outrageous, but you are personally attacking me by accusing me of being "on the payroll of corrupt government in Ontario posing as a law student" which is THE MOST RIDICULOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD!  I have explained at least twice now why your addition is a) unencyclopedic, b) misleading, and c) completely misplaced even if it did have any value.  └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 12:29, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I removed the "in the news" section from the article. To have a section be a sentence fragment with a link is not encyclopedic.  There is no indication that this is an ongoing controversial issue.  WW, discussing things with you on talk pages does not result in a rational discourse, only with your assertions that anyone who modifies "your" articles is a censoring vandal.  Enough is enough. JChap2007 16:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Questioning population estimates
In response to S-Ranger's removal of Brampton's population estimate:

Ontario estimates the 2006 population of Peel Region to be: 1,248,570.

Peel region is made up of Brampton, Mississauga, and Caledon.

Brampton estimates 2006 population to be 434,000. Mississauga estimates 2006 population to be 700,000. Caledon estimates 2006 population to be 58,500 (Sorry, I don’t have a source for this one, but it's on the article page). Total of the three estimated populations: 1,192,500.

If anything, Brampton may be underestimating. Since Brampton and Ontario’s estimates seem to match, I reiterate that the Brampton estimates are reliable and should be included. └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 17:21, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

 * May be, could be, who knows? Where's the methodology showing the low, medium and high estimates and explaining how they were arrived at so that statisticians will agree with it as opposed to writing it off as nothing but irrelevant political hype from a press release that proves nothing?  It's not verifiable and that's why it was removed.

 * This is a global encyclopedia and just because you think you can "trust" a press release from the City of Brampton means nothing. You'll have to wait for the 2006 Census numbers regarding Census Subdivision/municipal population numbers to come out to be able to prove anything -- or complain to Statistics Canada and/or the Ontario feds to release municipal population data more than once every 5 years or so.

 * Toronto is in its own "county"/Census Division/CD, and the Assessment Office of the Ontario Finance does release population estimates (with methodologies and low, medium, high estimates so that others actually believe them, which is called verifiability) or complain to Mississauga, which wants out of Peel anyway, Brampton and Caledon (one town hall/local government/council?) and the Peel regional government/council to amalgamate the Peel CD into one municipality.

 * Then, anyone in whatever the amalgamated single municipality of Peel in its own CD, will have no problems at all getting verifiable sources, for population and anything else the Ontario and/or confederate feds release regarding CDs. Until then you'll just have to wait for the 2006 Census numbers for CSDs to be released in 2008/2009 or so.

 * Or complain to Brampton city hall to get verifiability into is allegations. Or call your counciller or whatever it's called in Brampton and ask it why it's publishing numbers pulled from a hat in press releases, with no verifiability. --S-Ranger 17:13, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sure they're not just pulled from a hat. Just because they don't say where exactly the numbers come from doesn't mean they haven't been gotten from some proper statistical analysis or whatever the heck they do.  As I said, the numbers jive with the Ontario numbers listed above, so it's not blind trust (or are you not trusting the Ontario numbers either, now?). └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 17:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * And so what that "you" are sure of anything around an encyclpedia? If you were so sure you'd have the documentation at least showing the statistical methodologies used, so that others who truly KNOW THINGS could look at them and decide whether they used anything scientifically statistically accurate or not.  If and when you get those documents, go ahead and cite them as the source and it'll be verifiable.

 * If the City of Toronto (article around this encyclopedia -- not phpBB2 discussion board) publishes anything that isn't 100% verifiable and it ends up in the Toronto article, people from all over the planet are screaming and yelling and it gets removed. Grow up.  This isn't some schoolyard "argument" it's simple verifiability -- and there is none with the source provided.  That's all.  Get verifiability and go to it with 800 trillion people in Brampton as of 2006 in some estimate (from what and based on what statistical science?) and then, others will still write it off because the entire planet doesn't have that many people.

 * I do not care about anything but the #1 problem of Wikipedia -- it is not considered to be a reliable source of information and precisely due to things like this. You want Brampton to "look better" (or whatever, I have no clue or care what you want) but you're going to have to get real verifiability to do it. And they're not my rules, take it up with an admin or ten if you want to.

 * But if this or any other page gets away with the kind of crap you're trying to get away with, then all hell will break loose on other city/town/regioon pages.

 * What's the problem calling your city counciller or going to its office or emailing it to ask where the numbers came from? You know that they're not verifiable as is, with the press release (of all things) provided, but one phone call could change that.  Go to it. --S-Ranger 17:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I have already started the process of looking into the metholodology behind the numbers. However, as I have stated twice, the numbers appear to jive with the Ontario estimates, and I think you are agreement that the Ontario estimates are acceptable (even without a detailed methodology given for those numbers), so I am unsure what your problem with their inclusion actually is.  Question: Would estimates from the Region of Peel itself be considered authoritative enough to include?

 * Also, it would be nice if you'd stop making unfounded accusations. I personally do not, in fact, want "Brampton to "look better"."  I have no love for the city, whatsoever. └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 18:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Good work, it's all that was necessary in the first place. Verifiability is not some press release that proves nothing, nor are assumptions good enough.  All the Assessment Office of the Ministry of Finance proves (with its methodologies for everything explained) is that Peel is estimated to have 1,248,570 residents in 2006.  It does not break down Mississauga (which also has no verifiable source for its alleged population), Brampton or Caledon.

 * I'm sure there is proof around, but it's always frustrating to find it, particularly when only free information for the public domain can be used, and with governments that do not provide the GTA with the statistics it needs and deserves given the amounts of revenues the Ontario and federal governments make from this region.  The GTA out-populates every province in the Canadas other than the usual: the rest of the Windsor-Quebec City corridor.  But population alone means nothing.  We also need at least real and nominal GDP for the most basic economic measure around: GDP per capita and split up by at least the 5 CDs that make up the GTA.  Lots of places out-populate this area (outside the Canadas) and with not even the most basic economic data around, we could all be unemployed, this could be Old Calcutta with less population, full of slums and open sewers, etc., because population alone means nothing.  But it's difficult even getting verification for that, which we should all be complaining to our governments about.

 * I hope personal whatever stays out of it, because the only goal is to create the best articles for an encyclpedia that we can. When I read an edit comment, I didn't even look at the handle, basically telling me to shove it, "you" (after I lookd for the handle) find the stats to be okay and prove it wrong?  That's not how encyclopedias work, and from where I sit, you started the personal attacks.  But no hard feelings on this end, the table still states the 2006 population estimate and source, but it's just not good enough and particularly as a press release.

 * It doesn't mean that the information is incorrect -- it simply means that it's not verifiable, which is all that matters to me and is all that should matter to anyone who wants to make Wikipedia better. FWIW. --S-Ranger 19:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Population Estimates
The response I received from the Peel Data Centre at the Region of Peel follows:

 * Peel’s population forecasts are developed by Hemson Consulting. They use population data from the latest census, births and deaths estimates, housing development statistics and a wide range of other data as inputs into a model.

 * We are currently in the process of updating our forecasts. We are in the midst of the political process now, but we have no way of knowing when the forecasts will be officially approved because we do not yet know how many (if any) appeals will be filed.  I can keep you apprised of this situation if you wish.

 * Please email me directly if you have any questions.

 * Thanks,
 * Sarah

 * Sarah Cannon
 * Planner
 * Region of Peel Planning Department
 * 10 Peel Centre Drive, 6th Floor
 * Brampton, Ontario
 * L6T 4B9

 * Telephone: (905) 791-7800 Ext. 4344
 * Fax: (905) 791-7920
 * Email: sarah.cannon@peelregion.ca

While this might not be as good a response as what one might like, I think the fact that the estimates come from Hemson Consulting, a reputable firm, and take into consideration birth and deaths estimates, housing development statistics, and various other data, shows that this is not just some off the top of the head estimate of Brampton's population. I am satisfied that this is enought to support the inclusion of the figure in the article, and I have therefore included it. └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 18:06, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Odd street numbering system paragraph.
One oddity about Brampton's street network is the inconsistency of its north-south street dividing/numbering system. Queen Street is the official divider, with streets numbers increasing as as one goes north or south of Queen. However, this numbering sequence is only used for streets between McLaughlin Road and Highway 410, and only applies between Steeles Ave. and Bovaird Drive. Outside the boundaries of these four roads, the Regional numbering system (which begins at Lake Ontario), is used. This fact is usually not recognized, even by officials--for example, the Powerade Centre is usually labelled as being located at 7575 Kennedy Rd. South. "South" is technically incorrect, as the numbering sequence continues from Mississauga, and there are several houses to the north with address numbers higher than 7575. There are also several inaccurate street signs posted along Dixie Road (which lies east of the 410 and thus uses the Regional numbering system for its entire length through Brampton) that read "Dixie Rd. N".

Why was this section deleted? It was an informative paragraph on a little-known quirk of Brampton's street numbering system. How many other cities have that? A.L.70.24.71.154 05:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

 * It seemed rather specific for a general article on the city. It was also, apparently, original research as it was presented.  Why is the way streets are numbered useful for an article of this type?  I know that some very small streets in a part of Mississauga (with, for instance 20 houses), have numbers that start and end in the thousands, which is also somewhat unusual.  It would be ludicrous to think this was an important enough fact to add to Mississauga, Ontario, though. └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 13:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree. Ask at Talk:Street where this sort of information should go. --  Zanimum 15:10, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

This text was misplaced, please find a home for it
Brampton is considered to be one of the safest cities in Canada by civic officials.

Brampton is home to Peel Regional Police Headquarters, 22 Division.

Motto
I added the motto "Per ardva ad summum bonum civilium" which appears under the coat of arms (where it now says "City of Brampton") on the cover of "Brampton's 100th Anniversary: 1873-1973", a book published by the Corporation of the Town of Brampton. I have emailed the city asking for confirmation that this is still the official motto, and I have left messages on the talk pages of a couple Latin speakers on Wikipedia for translation, although I think it's something like "Through struggle to the best society". └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 14:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Good to know you have that book, I've never come across that volume anywhere but my old high school. I really doubt the motto is still in usage, but so long as there's no replacement, I don't seem the harm in including it.

 * I'd be curious to see if the city would mind waiving the copyright of the book into the GFDL. The Region of Peel Archives allowed me to start reprinting old artist bios from a book they published, on to the Visual Arts Brampton site. I wasn't asking for the copyright, but they seemed rather like "If someone wants this old stuff, why not let'm have it." --  Zanimum 16:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

 * The book is from the library, and it's due back on Sunday, so if you want it, you can have it after then. As for the motto, I'm writing a letter to the mayor right now about the disgraceful lack of proper symbolism in Brampton.  We don't really have a flag (a coat of arms on a white background isn't a flag), our coat of arms itself is not only ugly, but really lacks proper symbolism (and is heraldically wrong), and we don't have a real motto. Maybe one day they'll get their act in gear and fix the situation. └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 17:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

 * Oh, okay. CC it to the marketing department, as they're the ones in charge of that sort of stuff. Just as a point of note, the Pickering shield has a sheaf of grain on it, but it looks like a mushroom cloud when represented small on lapel pins. Really not comforting. --  Zanimum 22:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I got an email back that didn't say it wasn't still "official", but what it did was not say anything about it. Apparently, Brampton has two "official symbols", the "historic 'City Crest'", and the "modern 'Flower City Crest'" (which is a yellow flower logo with blue at the sides, "Flower City" at the top and "Brampton.ca" at the bottom.  Brampton's "positioning statement" (that's what he called it) is "Flower City".  That doesn't help a lot.  Would that be considered an official nickname?  Or a motto?  Bloody Brampton! └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 19:20, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I work in Aquatics and our new instructor and lifeguard uniforms feature the "Flower City" logo that you mentioned. They're massive little buggers, but they're becoming the official logo of the City of Brampton.. in Aquatics at any rate. It could be that Parks and Recreation (which Aquatics is a division under) could be adopting this new logo. I do think that Brampton should be referenced to as the "Flower City" somewhere in the article. --Aquatics 02:53, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

 * It's based on our old nickname, so I'd say it was closer to that. As per the above comment, hopefully I can get some info on the floral industry in. I don't think Parks and Rec would be adopting that logo entirely, they already have their own branding. Curious... what was the aquatics team's logo before hand?  --  Zanimum 16:41, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Buffy's tavern
Not too sure about the fact. A 2003 thing by the Guardian said that in fact it was a shoemaker who just served his customers tons of liqour. -- Zanimum 22:10, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Even if that's true (and everything I've read says otherwise), that's still enough for me to call it a tavern. It's not like bars were regulated back then, were they? └ <b style="color:blue;">OzLawyer</b> / <i style="color:black;">talk</i> ┐ 22:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Good point. --  Zanimum 15:54, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Related note... someone at some point applied to get a Buffy St. in Brampton. The Region denied the name submission, and the City says they will "never" reconsider any rejected name. Crazy, we have a gigantic street named after a modern mayor, in yet one of our first business people doesn't get a street. -- Zanimum 16:43, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Urban development ended on Mayfield border not until 2021?
hmm, I wonder if it is true, because on google map, I already seen some development north of Mayfield. I would prefer to buy a house north of Mayfield rd&Airport road. because I would like to enjoy some country life without sacrificing some my urban hobbies.

btw, there is a train track goes into DaimlerChrysler factory, and it looks interesting, how often the train actually pulls there? to pick up new cars? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.117.25.232 (talk) 07:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

The line dosesn't actually go into the plant (there are no tracks on the bridge). The plant was supposed to have rail service, but for some reason the tracks were never laid. A.L.74.120.54.29 02:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Canada/Ontario Project rating
I changed this article's importance rating to "Mid", to be consistent with most of the articles about cities in the province. PKT (talk) 22:14, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism is SO childish
I removed the "Ethnicity" portion of this article, due to vandalism. The vandals typed this:

გუჯარათული ენა გავრცელებულია ინდოეთის გუჯარათისა და მაჰარაშტრის შტატებში. თავისი სტრუქტურული ტიპით უკავია შუალედური მდებარეობა ჰინდისა და მარატჰის შორის. იგი ახლოსაა რაჯასტანულ ენასთან, აქვს ბევრი დიალექტები, მათ შორის სოციალური. ძირითადი დიალექტებია: ჩრდილოეთის ანუ აჰმადაბადის, დასავლეთის ანუ კათხიავარის, სამხრეთის ანუ სურატის. გუჯარათულ ჯგუფს მიეკუთვნება ინდოეთისა და პაკისტანის რამდენიმე მცირერიცხოვანი ენა, მათ შორის: აერი, ჯანდავრა, პარკარი, ვადიარა და სხვები

I know a cat named Ameer

 * Anyways, though living in Arizona, I have a personal connection to Brampton, so I don't appreciate vandalism. 65.248.164.214 (talk) 21:16, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I believe the “Motto” section at the top has been vandalised. I suggest it be removed immediately —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.136.139 (talk) 15:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Rename page
I've opened a discussion to rename this page as Brampton, and the disambiguation page to Brampton (disambiguation). See the discussion at the current disambiguation page at Talk:Brampton. Mind matrix  15:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Geography and climate
This section lacks content on climate.--Parkwells (talk) 14:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Population
Brampton's Population according to the signs saying welcome to Brampton is 452,000 thats was in 2007 and no doubt it has increased there for I am setting the population as 452,000 as that is the highest provable population. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gailgrove (talk • contribs) 18:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Municipal boundary signs are not valid sources for population information. I'm reverting the change. Mind  matrix  19:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry to announce you are wrong, this has been updated since 2006 and since Brampton's population is increasing therefor it is a valid source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gailgrove (talk • contribs) 22:52, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Absolutely not. See WP:RS. Mind  matrix  15:05, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

 * To clarify, municipal boundary signs, political speeches etc. are not valid sources as they don't provide information about the data sources used. Moreover, the Canadian WikiProject has established that the infobox only uses the latest census figures in the infobox; the text elaborate on more recent planning and estimate data. Mind  matrix  15:11, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Town hall picture.
The picture at the top of the infobox is of the original town hall (now a bar and other businesses), not the current city hall. I think this picture should be replaced with the current city hall instead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nutster (talk • contribs) 18:56, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree.-- Gordonrox24 | Talk 18:19, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Nicknames?
I am updating the nicknames to include "Brown Town, Buck Town, and B-Town as they are legitimate nicknames, I do recall these being on here before so I am unsure of what happened to them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.104.197 (talk) 22:41, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

 * They were deleted because they were unsourced. These nicknames require some sort of reference for verifiability. We've had many problems with editors adding random names to articles about other places (particularly Scarborough, Ontario). Mind  matrix  22:59, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Bramptonite? Thought it was Bramptonian?
Since when was the demonym of someone who lives in Brampton a "Bramptonite" are there any reliable sources for this? I have only ever heard the term "Bramptonian" used. I have changed it for now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.109.15 (talk) 05:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

Walk Through Time
A self-guided historical walking tour of downtown Brampton called, “A Walk Through Time”. , is available at Brampton City Hall and online free of cost. ADDED BY Karmeet Sethi (talk) 21:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Hewetson Shoe Factory
The Old Shoe Factory, located on 57 Mill Street North, was once the home of Hewetson Shoe Company. It was known as a historical property under the Ontario Heritage Act in 2008. Today it is occupied by various small businesses including The Well Being. The lobby and hallways still have the old theme from 1907. Walls are decorated with pictures and artifacts of local Brampton history and old shoe making equipment. ADDED BY Arshdeep Farwaha (talk) 21:17, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Sports and recreation
In the 'sports and recreation' section, there is a list of amateur sports teams. Then in the article Sports in Brampton, there's another list of amateur teams. The list from the Brampton article should be removed and merged into the 'Sports in Brampton' article. Then, teams with no variable source (eg. "Bleed Blue Cricket Club") can be removed. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:30, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If there's no article on the league, it should clearly be sent over to the sport article. --  Zanimum (talk) 12:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

There is no longer OHL team in Brampton. It was relocated 2 years ago to North Bay, Ontario. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.63.136.237 (talk) 16:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Population growth statement problem
Hello. Claims made in the "Population growth" section regarding the reasons for Brampton's rising population appear to lack any concrete evidence to back them up. Would this not be considered original research? WP:NOR --AndrewH7 (talk) 17:21, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Education, cancellation of York campus
Doug Ford government cancels funding for post-secondary campus expansions in Brampton, Milton, Markham

This topic, which also affects the two other cities, was discussed at length in the Talk section of Milton, Ontario. It was agreed there, that this topic needed to be covered, in a neutral point of view.

I have updated the section in this article as per the discussion mentioned above. Peter K Burian (talk) 13:46, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

Racist and derogatory (but citable) names for Brampton
What do you do in the case of where the racist and derogatory names "B-town" "Brown town", and "Bramladesh" appear in RS? I removed them for now, but I would like some input from other editors. In your replies, please do not quote WP:CENSOR; I know all about it. I also know about racist and derogatory terms. Thanks. Dr.  K.  17:08, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Where is this place in Canada?
Someone should add, map of Canada in infobox. Foreigners will not understand it. Rock Stone Gold Castle (talk) 10:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

 * That's a good observation. There are two maps available for selection in the infobox but the default map is Peel region.  Wikipedia serves a global readership and most would not be familiar with Peel.  I have chnaged the default map to Southern Ontario which includes an inset map of Canada providing better location context. -- Whpq (talk) 12:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

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Mary Wesley

Mary Aline Siepmann CBE (24 June 1912 – 30 December 2002), known by the pen name Mary Wesley, was an English novelist. During her career, she was one of Britain's most successful novelists, selling three million copies of her books, including ten bestsellers in the last twenty years of her life.

Birth and family
Mary Aline Mynors Farmar was born in Englefield Green, Surrey, the third child of Colonel Harold Mynors Farmar, CMG, DSO, of Orchards, Bicknoller, Somerset, and his wife Violet Hyacinth, née Dalby, granddaughter of Sir William Bartlett Dalby. As a child, she had a succession of 16 foreign governesses. When she asked her mother why they kept on leaving, her mother reportedly told her: "Because none of them like you, darling."

Wesley had a lifelong complicated relationship with her family and especially with her mother, who had a sharp tongue. Following the death of her father in 1961, her mother said: "I'm not going to let that lingering death happen to me. When the time comes I'm going to crawl to the Solent and swim out." Wesley replied with feeling: "I'll help you".

Her family did not approve of her books. Her brother called what she wrote "filth" and her sister, with whom she was no longer on speaking terms, strongly objected to The Camomile Lawn, claiming that some of the characters were based on their parents. Wesley identified the appalling grandparents in Harnessing Peacocks, who bully the pregnant Hebe, as the nearest she came to a portrait of her own parents in old age.

Adult life
Lewis Clive fell in love with Wesley and asked her to marry him. In The Camomile Lawn, the character Oliver Ansty is a fictionalised version of Clive.

Wesley's first husband was Charles Swinfen Eady, 2nd Baron Swinfen, with whom she had a son, Roger Swinfen Eady, 3rd Baron Swinfen; although her son Toby Eady, born in 1941, was initially known as the son of Lord Swinfen, Wesley subsequently admitted his father to be the Czech political scientist Heinz Otto Ziegler. Toby Eady was eventually the literary agent of her biographer Patrick Marnham. She next married Eric Siepmann and with him had a third son, William Siepmann.

In 1970 Wesley was left impoverished by the death of Siepmann, and it was only then that she became an author, turning to writing as a way to restore her finances.

Final years
Only in the last year of her life did she agree to have her biography written. She cooperated fully with Patrick Marnham, on the condition that nothing would be published before her death. She provided her reminiscences from her sick bed, and commented: "Have you any idea of the pleasure of lying in bed for six months, talking about yourself to a very intelligent man? My deepest regret was that I was too old and ill to take him into bed with me." The authorised biography (published in 2006) is entitled Wild Mary, a reference both to her childhood nickname and to her sex life as a young woman, when she had many lovers. The biography holds nothing back. As Wesley stated: "It was a flighty generation.... [W]e had been brought up so repressed. War freed us. We felt if we didn't do it now, we might never get another chance." "It got to the state where one woke up in the morning, reached across the pillow and thought, 'Let's see. Who is it this time?'"

But Wesley finally did get tired of her wartime lifestyle, realizing that her way of life had become too excessive: "too many lovers, too much to drink...I was on my way to become a very nasty person". When her son Toby Eady read the book, he was so amazed at how much he did not know about his mother that he did not speak to anyone for a week.

Late in life Wesley ordered her own coffin from a local craftswoman and asked it be finished in red Chinese lacquer. She kept it as a coffee table for some time in her sitting room. She suggested that she be photographed sitting up in it for a feature in the magazine Country Living, but the idea was politely declined.

She was appointed a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in 1995. Due to her association with the town Wesley was chosen in 2007 to appear on the 1 Totnes pound note.

Death
Wesley died from cancer on 30 December 2002, aged 90, at her home in Totnes, Devon and was buried beside her second husband in the graveyard of Buckfast Abbey.

Writing style and themes
Her take on life reveals a sharp and critical eye which neatly dissects the idiosyncrasies of genteel England with humour, compassion and irony, detailing in particular sexual and emotional values. Her style has been described as "arsenic without the old lace". Others have described it as "Jane Austen plus sex", a description Wesley herself thought ridiculous. As a woman who was liberated before her time Mary Wesley challenged social assumptions about the old, confessed to bad behaviour and recommended sex. In doing so she smashed the stereotype of the disapproving, judgmental, past-it, old person. This delighted the old and intrigued the young.

In Wesley's books there are some references to her own life, although she denied that her novels were autobiographical. Her books usually take place in or around the everlasting house, the idyllic refuge, recalling her time with Siepmann, living in a remote cottage in the West Country. Other recurring themes such as the dysfunctional family, the uncertain paternity, the affirmation of illegitimacy, can also be linked to her own life. In addition, thanks to her flighty youth, sex would become her trademark in her books though she wrote about what went on in the head rather than a user's manual. Incest also plays a part in several of her novels, but Wesley never mentioned this as a feature of her own life. She may however have gained her insight from her years working as a Samaritan.

Novels
She wrote three children's books, Speaking Terms and The Sixth Seal (both 1969) and Haphazard House (1983), before publishing adult fiction. Since her first adult novel was published only in 1983, when she was 71, she may be regarded as a late bloomer. The publication of Jumping the Queue in 1983 was the beginning of an intensely creative period of Wesley's life. From 1982 to 1991, she wrote and delivered seven novels. While she aged from 70 to 79 she still showed the focus and drive of a young person.

Her best-known book, The Camomile Lawn, set in the West Penwith area near St Buryan, although filmed on the Roseland Peninsula in Cornwall, was turned into a television series, and is an account of the intertwining lives of three families in rural England during World War II. After The Camomile Lawn (1984) came Harnessing Peacocks (1985 and as a TV film in 1992), The Vacillations of Poppy Carew (1986 and filmed in 1995), Not That Sort of Girl (1987), Second Fiddle (1988), A Sensible Life (1990), A Dubious Legacy (1992), An Imaginative Experience (1994) and Part of the Furniture (1997). A book about the West Country with photographer Kim Sayer, Part of the Scenery, was published in 2001. Asked why she had stopped writing fiction at the age of 84, she replied: "If you haven't got anything to say, don't say it."

In March 2024, it was announced Wesley's literary estate had been acquired by the London-headquartered company, International Literary Properties (ILP), for an undisclosed sum.

List of works
Novels for Children
 * Speaking Terms (1969)
 * The Sixth Seal (1969)
 * Haphazard House (1983)

Novels for Adults
 * Jumping the Queue (1983)
 * The Camomile Lawn (1984)
 * Harnessing Peacocks (1985)
 * The Vacillations of Poppy Carew (1986)
 * Not That Sort of Girl (1987)
 * Second Fiddle (1988)
 * A Sensible Life (1990)
 * A Dubious Legacy (1992)
 * An Imaginative Experience (1994)
 * Part of the Furniture (1997)

Autobiographical
 * Part of the Scenery (2001)
 * Darling Pol : Letters of Mary Wesley and Eric Siepmann 1944-1967 (2017)

title: Mary Wesley