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User talk:Eliyak

The Sources and Analogues of 'A Midsummer-Night's Dream'
Thanks for the rename - it looks a lot better in the categories now!--Laverock ( Talk ) 21:46, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Problematic pages in PotM
Was there alternate copies of the vol. 1 PotM, the pages Page:Ornithological biography, or an account of the habits of the birds of the United States of America, volume 1.djvu/373 and Page:Ornithological biography, or an account of the habits of the birds of the United States of America, volume 1.djvu/374 have a crease/fold on the page and we are going to need to check the text for a few lines. — billinghurst  sDrewth  07:49, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

 * This "woodpecker report" is found in many other "bird books" - the following 2 have the missing content needed for this particular work...
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=KHpIAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA218#v=onepage&q&f=false
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=KHpIAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA219#v=onepage&q&f=false
 * I've taken the liberty of adding the 3(?) ommissions but did not feel comfortable marking it proofread. — George Orwell III ( talk ) 08:59, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

 * Sorry for not responding sooner, I was on vacation. I think if the correct text can be linked from the talk page, it can be marked proofread. --Eliyak T · C 22:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Images used in PotM
Wondering if you approve of the derivatives of plate images that I have been touching up for use in this month's PotM... Please let me know if they are acceptable, and whether their placement (and size settings) "in the Main" is also appropriate or not. Suggestions and/or criticisms welcomed! Thank you, Londonjackbooks (talk) 18:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Help with Hebrew
On this page: fr:Page:Dictionnaire de Trévoux, 1771, I.djvu/37 there is some illegible text near the bottom of the right-hand column. I pulled the JP2's and it looks like it could be "Aleph Yod" but I really have no idea if that makes sense in context. It looks like they are discussing the Hebrew and Greek (and to some extent the Aramaic) of Matthew but I can't tell if the characters I think I see make sense. I can post somewhere or e-mail you the single jp2 if you want to see as it's still not all there but what is there is clearer than in the djvu. My French is not at all good, so if you don't know French best to chat with phe or Pathoschild or someone else fluent. Thanks.--Doug.(talk • contribs) 21:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Index:Horsemanship for Women.djvu
Could you please put images on the above index, so it can be upgraded to Proofread. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 13:11, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ as of 23:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC) --kathleen wright5 (talk) 23:13, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Mishnah
Thanks for your kind words on my Mishnah work. I've been trying to get to Mishnayot that have some relevance to the weekly Torah parshah. But generally speaking, this is a fine time of year to be filling in Avot. And its contents reward attention. I invite you to join me in that project, if you are so inclined. Thanks again. -- Dauster (talk) 09:46, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

Automatic "Kapitel" Formatting for Jewish Texts
I've posted this question at Dovi's page but seems he hasn't read it yet; perhaps you can help?  Namely, is there a way to get automatic "kapitel" styling on our texts, i.e. first word in each paragraph large and bold, as is the traditional print in many Jewish books and this would be in accordance with Wikiproject standards I believe I read that the Wiki text should resemble the original prints as much as possible.

Also re: "Hebrewtop" and "Hebrewbottom" formatting such as on it seems to give a nice face to the otiyot however the lines do not wrap, so long lines just run off the page. Any ideas for this?

Thank you! Nissimnanach (talk) 17:44, 20 July 2011 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Page:Adjustment Team.djvu/1
How about validating the title page? --kathleen wright5 (talk) 08:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Also there's something wrong with page 2 in mainspace. --kathleen wright5 (talk) 09:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Insular script
Do you think it possible to create representations of Insular script using Typography templates? If so or not so, your comments would be welcomed at Scriptorium. Gavin Collins (talk|contribs) 17:28, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

You're invited to Wikimedia events in June and July: bot, script, template, and Gadget makers wanted
I invite you to the yearly Berlin hackathon, 1-3 June. Registration is now open. If you need financial assistance or help with visa or hotel, then please register by May 1st and mention it in the registration form.

This is the premier event for the MediaWiki and Wikimedia technical community. We'll be hacking, designing, teaching, and socialising, primarily talking about ResourceLoader and Gadgets (extending functionality with JavaScript), the switch to Lua for templates, Wikidata, and Wikimedia Labs.

We want to bring 100-150 people together, including lots of people who have not attended such events before. User scripts, gadgets, API use, Toolserver, Wikimedia Labs, mobile, structured data, templates -- if you are into any of these things, we want you to come!

I also thought you might want to know about other upcoming events where you can learn more about MediaWiki customization and development, how to best use the web API for bots, and various upcoming features and changes. We'd love to have power users, bot maintainers and writers, and template makers at these events so we can all learn from each other and chat about what needs doing.

Check out the the developers' days preceding Wikimania in July in Washington, DC and our other events.

Best wishes! - Sumana Harihareswara, Wikimedia Foundation's Volunteer Development Coordinator. Please reply on my talk page at mediawiki.org. Sumanah (talk) 01:11, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Help with Hebrew
Hi,

May I prevail on you to check Page:Eight chapters of Maimonides on ethics.djvu/178 please?

Hesperian 12:04, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

 * Thanks! Hesperian 13:44, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I just discovered Hebrew missing and Category:Pages with missing Hebrew characters! Hesperian 07:58, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

 * I see my work is cut out for me! --Eliyak T · C 04:48, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Progress on search results?
Hi,

I've been mindful of your comment in passing about how we should see positive search engine results in about two weeks or so but I've been like crack addict ever since our "break-through", checking daily for any change(s). Well today there was a dramatic jump in the number of entries containing the '- Wikisource, the free online library' tag-line. A search for "Leo_Tolstoy" now comes up (for me) on the 2nd page at roughly the 19th hit returned as well. The cached entry for Leo_Tolstoy shows June 28th and that one still has the Author: prefix in the title tag to boot. Hoo-ray!!!

After looking over the pages and pages of the new results, I'm not so sure including the tag-line for all the namespaces and associated talk pages is beneficial, desired or even warranted by the community at large. What are your thoughts about limiting the tag-line to just the 3 primary namespaces promoting works or relevant subdirectories to works (the main, Author: and Portal: + maybe Category: & File: as well)? Primarily, I'm not so sure the tag-line is a welcomed addition to User: accounts & their talk pages without actually asking for some sort of community consent first, but also don't see how it helps the remaining namespaces, such as Template: or MediaWiki:, used for the most part just to facilitate the operation of content in the primary and sub-primary namespaces. So am I being too uptight about this? Appreciate your thoughts in advance. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:12, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Match
Eliyak, thanks for your sterling work on matching vol 3 of 1001 nights. As you might guess I'm experimenting on this because it's a good example of a book in a mess, though a bit larger than sensible for an experiment. I see your fixes to the page took about 45 minutes which is encouraging for a text of about 350 pages. Doing the identification of page-breaks offline takes me at least 35 seconds per page so that's a 5 times speedup. Of course there are bugs in the routine so they need to be fixed first. And I haven't yet tried stage 2, the Split, which is supposed to take longer. I see Phe hasn't made any changes since April so I don't know who looks after the code. Do you know where the code is? Chris55 (talk) 08:04, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Header template
Eliyak, I'm getting template errors on The Book of the Thousand Nights and a Night/Volume 3/ab and I wonder if your change to put in 2 extra headers has anything to do with it. I thought there was a strict limit on the number of compulsory args to avoid all sorts of errors in editing old headers. Chris55 (talk) 16:13, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 * huh, I can be as blind as any bat! Thanks. Chris55 (talk) 16:26, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Page Triage
Have you looked over the new patrolling feature I proposed us enabling at the Scriptorium? It does not interfere with the current method of patrolling so no one would be forced to switch if it were brought in. --Birgitte SB  01:31, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

Toolserver
Eliyak, You may see on the MOTM page that I've finally come round to your campaign for categorising, albeit with a difference. However I've realised that I can't get the sort of information I want using the standard interface to WS and wonder what the way ahead is. One seems to be by getting a proper account on the toolserver but I've also heard about other sort of shell access to the wikis. Are these different or the same thing and which is the way to go? I've used the toolserver once or twice via their query server but that's not very satisfactory. Also do I need support from another user? Chris55 (talk) 16:41, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

Social media & Tumblr
With regards to WikiProject Social media and your transitional government, I was wondering if we should set up a Tumblr page for English Wikisource. (Probably "wikisource.tumblr.com" or "englishwikisource.tumblr.com".) It seems like an easy way forward for social media and Wikisource outreach. We could start somewhat slowly with maybe a post every one or two weeks: things like the featured text, the proofread of the month (and its conclusion). We can use the tumblr for these kinds of project announcements to begin with, maybe adding quick posts for new texts when they're added to the main page list. If it's successful, we can expand on the posts (perhaps soliciting suggestions on the project talk page). Do you think I/we should go ahead with this? - AdamBMorgan (talk) 21:52, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Trial run now operating: englishwikisource.tumblr.com. When you get back to Wikisource, I will add you as a Tumblr admin per the WikiProject. - AdamBMorgan (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Music
Any chance you could try and work out a way to format this using your music template?

(One thing that's missing from your template set is 'signatures' both time and key.) https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Page:The_Army_and_Navy_Hymnal.djvu/32&action=editSfan00 IMG (talk) 12:41, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

format page
Hello Eliyak! Kind person, please format your pages before saving so that the m-dash connects to the words around it. Okay? Happy New Year 2013! —Maury (talk) 06:21, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

 * I agree with your view 100 percent. I was doing the same as you because it looks better to me. I was just told to do different. I have been validating your pages and naturally I followed that rule (?). It's no big thing either way imho. Have a great New Year. —Maury (talk) 06:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikisource User Group
Wikisource, the free digital library is moving towards better implementation of book management, proofreading and uploading. All language communities are very important in Wikisource. We would like to propose a Wikisource User Group, which would be a loose, volunteer organization to facilitate outreach and foster technical development, join if you feel like helping out. This would also give a better way to share and improve the tools used in the local Wikisources. You are invited to join the mailing list 'wikisource-l' (English), the IRC channel #wikisource, the facebook page or the Wikisource twitter. As a part of the Google Summer of Code 2013, there are four projects related to Wikisource. To get the best results out of these projects, we would like your comments about them. The projects are listed at Wikisource across projects. You can find the midpoint report for developmental work done during the IEG on Wikisource here.

Global message delivery, 23:21, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Commons File Update
I updated the Commons file at Commons (new file has eyes), but the updated file does not show on Wikisource. Does it take time? Or did I do the linkage wrong? Nissimnanach (talk) 19:31, 22 October 2013 (UTC)Nissimkaufmann

Thanks...
...for your trust. ~ DanielTom (talk) 20:59, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

You seem to know your way around...
...javascript; could I impose upon that knowledge and ask you a thing or two about a section in our MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js file?? specifically the  part copied to the window below.....

I'm mostly concerned with the second to last line setting up the .prepend (more on that later) but for starters can you just look over the section in general and make sure we're not handicapped through scripting neglect or something?

For instance, shouldn't  really be  ??? (again - I have no clue but "&&" seems to indicate an "and" condition when it should be either namespace --> "||" = "or" <-- no?). Anyway, I'm worried the script is outdated and needs tweaking/cleaning/etc. If this is not your bag, then please do not worry about and forget I asked. Thanks either way. -- George Orwell III (talk) 02:10, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Well, I must give credit where credit is due - You Da' Man !!!!!! Since the switch to load during vs. afterwards, everything is as I had hoped for & more. Two points remain outstanding - ones that weren't part of the original .js but were haphazardly added as gadgets when they didn't work in the old ThomasV development.
 * 1) While some folks like (or have blindly accepted?) the gray-highlight feature, the option to disable it via it's gadget (adds   to User:s local common.js file) seems kind of overkill. For example, I prefer to disable it because, more often than not, the end point or points are beyond the viewable screen area anyway; requiring a scroll and losing the mouseover in the process. Is there anyway to make life easier and have the enabling/disabling of the highlight feature part of the left-hand side's Display options menu as a toggle like 'Show / Hide page links' currently are?
 * 2) Generally the same issue as above but with the enabling of inline page links rather than the usual forced margin display  instead. It seems to me making a toggle switching between inline & marginalized page links also under the Display options menu would be better than the current option of adding it via Gadget (if it can be done that is).

I'd also like to note that under the current PageNumbers.js with inline page links enabled, the automatic disabling of what of course would be the redundant gray-highlighting feature still takes place as it did before but the hide/show toggle has no effect on the inline links whereas (at least for me) this was only mode where hide/show actually worked before undertaking the optimizations over the past week or so. I hope this can be fixed - where hide/show works regardless of marginalized or inline page links being selected & in use. TIA (really - you have no idea how long & how much this file has driven me nuts; thanks again). -- George Orwell III (talk) 22:08, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Template:Translation_header
Hi Eliyak, I'm writing to you as you made the last edit to the page Template:Translation_header. The fields do not include one for translator, and the article says the translator will automatically be assigned the value "Wikisource." But further below in the Template:Translation_header section it does have a field for translator that seems to be variable. Should Translation works indeed have the translator specified? Nissimnanach (talk) 18:31, 28 October 2013 (UTC)Nissimnanach

PageNumber.js backgound info
Saw some of the remarks to yourself and figure I'd try to fill in the blanks or layout the history for you so you can move forward with removing the crap that no-longer/never served a purpose.

The first thing you should know is that the reason there are three wrapping DIV containers instead of just the "logical" two (1 for floating page link 'columns' &/or floating navigation headers and another for the actual content transcluded in from the Page: namespace) is because the DIV block that we have today - assigned the id mw-content-text & class mw-content-ltr (or rtl for right to left languages) - did not exist in the skin.php(s) generating the basic layouts at the time of roll-out. More percisely, the DIV existed but had no class nor id given to it. This caused all sorts of headaches for ThomasV because he did not seem to know how to manipulate that 'naked' DIV; instead he worked around it (to put it nicely). This is why the header template was wrapped in its own DIV and assigned the id headertemplate and the original wrapping scheme started with a DIV outside of the edit-box (DIV#contentSub) and ended with the CAT bar divs. This was contrary to what was first "advertised" prior to roll out - things like the navigation header, it's footer, any license banner(s), the later VIAF info-bar and the ever present category bar were all not suppose to be subject to Dynamic Layout resizing (why should they be? They are suppose disappear on User print and in Book compilation/creation anyway). But since he couldn't manipulate that 'naked' DIV block, DIV#text-wrapper became the faux substitute for what is properly DIV#mw-content-text today. ThomasV pretty much left the project soon after - never bringing the DIVS into alignment nor as was originally advertised all this time. In short, the concept really only needed 2 DIV wrappers to work - DIV#text-wrap, the faux DIV#mw-content-text, was relegated to just setting up position:relative; margin-left:3em; for the other two DIVs that followed it.

Second, the only reason those classes are stripped prior to being 'wrapped-up' is to avoid some long resolved margin setting inheritance problem. Anybody who used inline styles rather than those 4 or 5 defined classes always had their settings incorporated into the default Dynamic Layout settings & quickly learned it was better to stop adding custom settings (Dynamic layouts did not play well with some User: prefered settings at all - the Statutes at Large project comes to mind). So while the practice of adding any of those DIVs with classes that now get stripped has pretty much stopped, its best to keep the stripping function in there just to cover any grandfathered-in old works that still have them. Hope that helps. -- George Orwell III (talk) 06:12, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks GO3, that's useful to know. --Eliyak T · C 06:27, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

what does the match= parameter do?
Another unfinished bit to this fabulous disaster - Side-by-Side now DoubleWiki. Thankfully, it was pruned from the ProofReading scheme (the best that I could tell that is) and made into its own [//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DoubleWiki extension]. I believe the Bilingual_link(?) portion in our MediaWiki:Common.js file is still integrated with it somehow (another "pushed upgrade" that should have been made an optional Gadget for Users rather than universal, imho).

In a nutshell, it allows side-by-side viewing of a single work in English and some other language's version at once. See it in action... ... and since standards & practices on the most basic of transcription elements currently vary from domain to domain - this too is only useful to the folks who contribute a work in more than one language domain themselves. Personally, I have yet to find a work that actually renders usefully from one column to the other all the way to the end - usually the offset between the two versions becomes so great, one or the other scrolls out of screen view or, even better, one language has all the chapters on one mainspace page while another has broken the chapters out onto their own subpages. The concept seems sound however, but without any real coordination, its not very useful (thank God its a stand-alone, again, as far as I can tell - seperate from the current PR regime). Just note that it seems like it was actually part of this mess - to what degree & when; I cannot say. -- George Orwell III (talk) 07:00, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
 * https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Le_Corbeau_%28Mallarm%C3%A9%29?match=fr

following you along is like
... a private lesson in scripting :) I'm picking up more about JQuery just following you along than any website ever did - that much is for sure!

Anyway, I've loaded your test script and thought I better remind you of a thing or two now that I just remembered them myself.

First, I'm pretty sure I recall Tpt (maybe even ThomasV) say there is something (or some things?) that are not exactly 100% the same when testing PR extension/DynLayouts in namespaces other than the main namespaces - like the current subpage(s) of your User: space hosting the testbed example(s). I believe that this is/was the case due to certain css/php settings only "pointing" to elements & their attributes as defined specifically for instances detected in the main namespace only. This imbalance was probably compounded further by the recent introduction of the Translation: mainspace, but that is most likely a seperate issue than the current goal here. I understand testing in the User: was unavoidable but I figure best mention the possibilty that even once your done "testing" to your satisfaction & move your .js to the MediWiki space - you should not be surprised if bits & pieces don't work the same as they did under your User: space. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Probably also a private lesson in how many little mistakes one can make in scripting! I'm learning a lot myself, too. My main sources are http://api.jquery.com/ and google generally. I know things will be different "in production," but hopefully not too different. Also, since it seems that private JS loads before the public JS, I should be able to do a "private screening" before going live.

Second, I was wondering to myself how MediaWiki:Proofreadpage pagenum template fits into the ongoing process of development/testing - not that I understood how or why it was put into play by the PR extension before these latest refinements began either - but I was always concerned that this template existed ontop of the stuff already coming down from the extension's php files & in addition to any of the supporting scripts like PageNumbers.js called "locally". Isn't this faux-template "getting in the way" at this point of your attempted overhauls? (of course, I could be totally off-base in my assumption here.) Thanks again & please reply, if at all, only when you have the time & the urge. No problems with that on my end. -- George Orwell III (talk) 23:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I think the "template" is necessary to some extent, since it is used by the Proofreadpage extension directly, and the information it pulls in is necessary to have in *some* format. JS can't bring in that info unless it's already on the page ("in the DOM"). So the template actually gives us more control by giving the ability to modify the format of that HTML without actually going into the extension PHP code. --Eliyak T · C 01:49, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

 * 18 Novemeber

It seems your changes work well enough in that nobody has "complained" about anything to date. I've also put dozens and dozens of examples to task under the changes and, again, all seems just fine -- save that one text character offset thing at the first-child of the div_highlight container. At least for me, after the first embedded page link transcluded "in" from the Page: namespace, every mouseover activating the gray highlight field(s) start at the wrong position (always 2nd text character from the left of the start of the target word where a page break exists). The last (or third child) always ends properly when the page break occurs between paragraphs or with a 'space' when the page break occurs mid-paragaph.

This leads me to believe the 1 character offset is somehow tied to the automatic space insterted at the end of one page being transcluded in and the start of the following page being transcluded in & not so much with anything in the .js itself (I've tinkered with the "math" found in the first child of the container in PageNumbers.js with no change; still off by one). This "theory" is supported by the instances where the templates for hyphenated word starts & ends are put to use across page breaks within a paragraph spanning more than 1 page. The highlight feature is unable to process this and the highlight ends & starts at the begining of the word rather than at the point where the now mainspace removed hyphen is suppose to be in the Page namespace.

Anyway, if this one character offset thing can be overcome (?refresh offsets way after the end of last transcluded page inserts all those extra spaces [only to strip them down to just a single space @ final rendering] maybe?), your refinements work perfectly!! -- George Orwell III (talk) 03:19, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * The hws/hwe issue is because hws does not actually transclude anything from the first page, and it is hwe that shows the full word. The reason is that as you have noted, MediaWiki inserts a space between pages.

 * In other news, I think I may have fixed your problem (an IE8 bug?). Let me know if my latest edit did the trick. --Eliyak T · C 04:35, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure did!... Perfect. -- George Orwell III (talk) 05:47, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Cookie question
Hey again,

I've been seeing a lot of folks claiming when they 1st click-in to a transcluded page, they are automatically seeing the page in Layout 2 when no forcing of Layout 2 is present. Could this behavior be caused by the cookie thing you added at the begining of MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js?

I'm about to remove it (since it says remove after a week or so anyway) but I'm hoping I don't botch things up on top of wondering if could possibly be the cause of the "skipping" of Layout 1 thing some folks are seeing? Thanks for your attention (& sorry for being a pain). -- George Orwell III (talk) 00:41, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

TOC limit Template
w:Template:TOC_limit doesn't seem to work: see Chayey Moharan. Thanks! Nissimnanach (talk)Nissimnanach
 * Abracadabra hocus pocus! --Eliyak T · C 04:58, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, it's beautiful! Nissimnanach (talk) 17:18, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Hmm -- worked before; appears to have reverted and it's not working. ? Nissimnanach (talk) 03:01, 11 December 2013 (UTC)Nissimnanach
 * Looks good on my end... --Eliyak T · C 01:26, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Rename template doesn't work
Please see Kitzur_Shulchan_Aruch -- the w:Template:Rename_media template from Wikipedia does not work. Gracias! Nissimnanach (talk) 18:02, 9 January 2014 (UTC)Nissimnanach

Fyi on main page css
Actually, MediaWiki:Common.css/Mainpage.css held the stuff for the main page formatting but since none of it seem to apply anymore, it was no longer called to be loaded (I could be wrong about that however). Either way, you should revive that css instead of lumping it with the rest of the "orphans" imho. -- George Orwell III (talk) 06:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Sounds right to me. I'll leave it as is until it gets promoted to actually being used on the main page. --Eliyak T · C 06:28, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Question about your reorganization at https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Arukh_ha-Shulchan/Orach_Chaim
Hi,

I see you have reorganized the pages at this work by adding them to "Translation:". I added "Translation:" to the sub pages so that the linking would work. Two of the links do not seem to go to their sub pages. Would you know what happened to these sub pages? Did they get orphaned somewhere?

Thanks, Shemindex (talk) 14:49, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

 * Thanks for cleaning up my mess. I'm thinking that those pages may never have been created; as you can see, the text is not complete in any case. If you think this is not the case, let me know. --Eliyak T · C 02:29, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

 * I was not the user who started chapter 3 so maybe that was never created. I am relatively sure that I translated chapter 432 since I see that I started 433. Shemindex (talk) 17:10, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

 * I did some searches, and was unable to find either chapter 3 or 432, even when I looked through all deleted pages starting with "Aru". I did see that you created 431 in July 2012, but 433 in July 2013. I'm not sure, but I can't find any evidence of either page being started... --Eliyak T · C 22:33, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

 * Thank you for checking. Sorry for the bother, I must be mistaken. Shemindex (talk) 01:31, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Gadgetize a magicword?
Do you know if it is possible to "load" a magic-word on every page I view via a Gadget or something? The magicword I'm most thinking of is (  { {noexternallanglinks } } ). It retards the generation of interlinks from Wikidata on any page where such links exist. -- George Orwell III (talk) 02:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Cookie conflict?
Hi again,

When you have some time, could you please review/revise the "cookie" relationship between MediaWiki:Base.js and MediaWiki:PageNumbers.js now that the former is no longer being loaded from old.wikisource. Call me crazy, but the whole approach to creating the Display options portlet seems contrary to the way collapsible nav panes are setup in the Skins, collapsibleNav.js. At the very least, what is started in Base doesn't seem optimal when continued in PageNumbers. -- George Orwell III (talk) 11:03, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Shulhan Aruch
I see that you did some editing of the shulhan aruch a couple of years ago. Thought you might like to know that there is a site http://www.shulchanarach.com/ which has a basic translation which could be used as an editing baseDfrankfurter (talk) 05:01, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

removal of admin rights due to inactivity
Hi Eliyak,

The consensus at your annual admin confirmation is that your rights be removed due to inactivity. If you should return to the Wikisource soon, you may request immediate restoration of your admin rights. Sorry to have lost you from the site; I hope you're well and enjoying life. Thanks for all your contributions! Hesperian 04:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

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Page:Best Russian Short Stories.djvu/202

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It was seven o'clock in the evening. Mrs. Shaldin and her trunk had arrived hardly half an hour before, yet the captain's wife was already there paying a visit; which was a sign of the warm friendship that existed between the two women. They kissed each other and fell to talking. The doctor, a tall man of forty-five, seemed discomfited by the visit, and passed unfriendly side glances at his guest. He had hoped to spend that evening undisturbed with his wife, and he well knew that when the ladies of the regiment came to call upon each other "for only a second," it meant a whole evening of listening to idle talk.

"You wouldn't believe me, dear, how bored I was the whole time you were away, how I longed for you, Natalie Semyonovna. But you probably never gave us a thought."

"Oh, how can you say anything like that. I was thinking of you every minute, every second. If I hadn't been obliged to finish the cure, I should have returned long ago. No matter how beautiful it may be away from home, still the only place to live is among those that are near and dear to you."

These were only the preliminary soundings. They lasted with variations for a quarter of an hour. First Mrs. Shaldin narrated a few incidents of the trip, then Mrs. Zarubkin gave a report of some of the chief happenings in the life of the regiment. When the conversation was in full swing, and the samovar was singing on the table, and the pancakes were spreading their appetising odour, the captain's wife suddenly cried:

"I wonder what the fashions are abroad now. I say, you must have feasted your eyes on them!"

Mrs. Shaldin simply replied with a scornful gesture.

"Other people may like them, but I don't care for them one bit. I am glad we here don't get to see them until a year later. You know, Tatyana Grigoryevna, you sometimes see the ugliest styles."

"Really?" asked the captain's wife eagerly, her eyes gleaming with curiosity. The great moment of complete revelation seemed to have arrived.

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 * Things seen in Madagascar, 1856
 * Madagascar and its people, 1870
 * The Great African Island: Chapters on Madagascar, 1880
 * A Madagascar Bibliography, 1881
 * Folk Lore Record (1883)
 * Madagascar before the conquest, 1896
 * Our English cathedrals, 1911
 * A naturalist in Madagascar, 1915

 * "On the Oratory, Songs, Legends, and Folk-tales of the Malagasy: 1–15; 33–40; 65–77; 97–106; 169–174; 201–211; 233–243; 273–279; 305–316; 337–343" The Folk-Lore Journal. Volume 1. 1883

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Rh "Perfectly hideous, I tell you. Just imagine, you know how nice the plain skirts were. Then why change them? But no, to be in style now, the skirts have to be draped. Why? It is just a sign of complete lack of imagination. And in Lyons they got out a new kind of silk—but that is still a French secret."

"Why a secret? The silk is certainly being worn already?"

"Yes, one does see it being worn already, but when it was first manufactured, the greatest secret was made of it. They were afraid the Germans would imitate. You understand?"

"Oh, but what is the latest style?"

"I really can't explain it to you. All I know is, it is something awful."

"She can't explain! That means she doesn't want to explain. Oh, the cunning one. What a sly look she has in her eyes." So thought the captain's wife. From the very beginning of the conversation, the two warm friends, it need scarcely be said, were mutually distrustful. Each had the conviction that everything the other said was to be taken in the very opposite sense. They were of about the same age, Mrs. Shaldin possibly one or two years younger than Mrs. Zarubkin. Mrs. Zarubkin was rather plump, and had heavy light hair. Her appearance was blooming. Mrs. Shaldin was slim, though well proportioned. She was a brunette with a pale complexion and large dark eyes. They were two types of beauty very likely to divide the gentlemen of the regiment into two camps of admirers. But women are never content with halves. Mrs. Zarubkin wanted to see all the officers of the regiment at her feet, and so did Mrs. Shaldin. It naturally led to great rivalry between the two women, of which they were both conscious, though they always had the friendliest smiles for each other.

Mrs. Shaldin tried to give a different turn to the conversation.

"Do you think the ball will be interesting this year?"

"Why should it be interesting?" rejoined the captain's wife scornfully. "Always the same people, the same old humdrum jog-trot."


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 Kirby, Henry George Middleton, B.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1865, a member of the Western circuit, a student of Lincoln's Inn 17 Jan., 1865 (then aged 22), called to the bar 30 April, 1868 (2nd son of Thomas Kirby, Esq., of Inhurst, Berks, commander R.N.); born, 1843.
 * 6, St James' Place, S.W.

Kirby, Thomas Frederick, bursar of Winchester Coll. since 1862, secretary for Hants of the Society of Antiquaries, M.A. Trin. Coll., Camb., fellow 1861, assistant tutor 1861–4, an Etonian, a student of Lincoln's Inn 27 Jan., 1862 (then aged 25), called to the bar 26 Jan., 1866 (eldest son of Thomas Kirby, of Inhurst House, Hants, commander R.N.); born 3 Sept., 1836; married 15 Oct., 1865, Helen, dau. of Walter John Hunter, Esq., of Baughurst House, Hants.
 * St. Mary's College, Winchester.

Kirke, Henry, M.A., B.C.L., Wadham Coll., Oxon, 1866, stipendiary magistrate British Guiana 1872, acting puisne judge April, 1874, sheriff of Essequibo 1877, went the Midland circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 8 Nov., 1862 (then aged 20), called to the bar 27 Jan., 1868 (posthumous and only son of late Henry Kirke, of Chapel-en-le-Frith, co. Derby); born 4 June, 1842; married 19 May, 1864, Agnes, youngest dau. of Admiral Sir Stephen Lushington, G.C.B., and has issue (see Foster's Baronetage, ).
 * British Guiana.

Kirke, John, a student of the Middle Temple 31 Oct., 1850, called to the bar 1 May, 1854 (7th son of John Kirke, Esq., of East Markham, Notts); born 27 May, 1826; married 12 July, 1866, Emma M., elder dau. of late J. Brewster, of Brampton, Hunts.
 * Care of Mirfield Hall, East Markham, Tuxford, Notts.

Kirkham, Arthur Macdonald, LL.M., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1879, B.A. 1875, a member of the Northern circuit, a student of Lincoln's Inn 3 July, 1878 (then aged 27), called to the bar 11 May, 1881 (only son of late Arthur Leeche Kirkham, Esq., of Berehurst, Surrey); born, 1851.
 * 1, Harcourt Buildings, Temple, E.C.

Kirkham, Thomas Brown, matric. London Univ. 1858, educational inspector central division Bombay, justice of peace Bombay, a student of the Middle Temple 9 June, 1880, called to the bar 18 April, 1883 (2nd son of James Kirkham, of London, gent., dec.); born,.
 * Bombay.

Kirkpatrick, Clarence, pleader before the High Court North-west Provinces India and of the Punjab, licentiate in law of the Calcutta Univ., a student of Lincoln's Inn 5 June, 1878 (then aged 33), called to the bar 29 June, 1881 (4th son of William Kirkpatrick, Esq., formerly deputy registrar of the Sudder Dewanny Adaw, late of Calcutta, dec.); born, 1855.
 * Allahabad, North-west Provinces India.

Kirkpatrick, Edward Godman, M.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1855, a student of the Middle Temple 2 April, 1846, called to the bar 26 Jan., 1853 (eldest son of Richard Godman Kirkpatrick, Esq., of Ryde, Isle of Wight); born,.
 * United University Club, S.W.

Kirkpatrick, Henry Clare, M.A., Trin. Coll., Dublin, 1868, reporter to the High Court at Calcutta, a student of Lincoln's Inn 8 Nov., 1864 (then aged 22), called to the bar 6 June, 1883 (eldest son of Rev. William Baillie Kirkpatrick, D.D., of Dublin); born,.
 * Calcutta.

Kirkpatrick, John, M.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1840, late major Kent artillery militia, J.P. Kent, editor of Mackenzie's Roman Law, a student of the Inner Temple 31 Jan., 1835 (then aged 20), called to the bar 31 Jan., 1840 (2nd son of George Kirkpatrick, of Bromley, Kent); born, 1815; married , 1854, Margaretta, eldest dau. of Henry Caldecott, Esq., of Holton Hall, co. Lincoln, and has issue.
 * Monks Horton Park, Hythe; Oxford and Cambridge Club.

Kirkpatrick, William Trench, B.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1880, a student of the Inner Temple 24 Jan., 1879 (then aged 21), called to the bar 18 April, 1883 (eldest son of Alexander Richard Kirkpatrick, of Donacomper, Celbridge, co. Kildare); born 1 Aug., 1857.
 * Donacomper, near Celbridge, co. Kildare; 8, King's Bench Walk, Temple, E.C.

Kirkwood, William Montague Hammett, Crown advocate Japan, a student of the Inner Temple 25 April, 1870 (then aged 20), called to the bar 30 April, 1873 (4th son of John Townsend Kirkwood, of Yeovale, Bideford, Devon); born, 1850; married , 1874, Alice Harriett Eva, 2nd dau. of Hugh Darby Owen, Esq., of Bettys, co. Montgomery.
 * Yeovale, Bideford; Yokohama, Japan.

Kirton, James, matric. London Univ. 1864, a student of the Middle Temple 17 April, 1862, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1864 (4th son of Nathaniel Kirton, of Barbados, landed proprietor); born,.
 * Barbados.

Kisch, Benjamin, M.A. London Univ. 1863, B.Sc. 1862, and a member of Convocation, a student of Lincoln's Inn 15 April, 1863 (then aged 20), called to the bar 26 Jan., 1866 (eldest son of Joseph Kisch, Esq., of London); born 11 Nov., 1842.
 * 9, Randolph Road, Maida Vale, W.; 11, New Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.

Kisch, Henry, matric. London Univ. 1870, goes the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Middle Temple 11 April 1872, called to the bar 7 June, 1875 (3rd son of Simon Abraham Kisch, of London, solicitor); born,.
 * Albert House, Fulham Road, S.W.; 3, Garden Court Temple, E.C.

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 Grimshaw, Joseph Stanfield, B.A. London Univ. 1855 and a member of Convocation, goes the Northern circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 19 Jan., 1856 (then aged 19), called to the bar 26 Jan., 1859 (2nd son of John Grimshaw, Esq., of Manchester); born, 1837.
 * 1, Tanfield Court, Temple, E.C.

Grinfield, Thomas Goddard, a student of Lincoln's Inn 17 Nov., 1835 (then aged 20), went to the Middle Temple 19 April, 1839, where he was called to the bar 24 May, 1839 (3rd son of Rev. Edward William Grinfield, of Notting Hill Square, Middlesex); born, 1815.

Groom, Samuel Robert, a student of the Middle Temple 3 July, 1873, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1879 (only son of Thomas Groom, Esq., of Jamaica, dec.); born,.
 * Turleigh Villa, i5radford-on-Avon, Wilts; 2, Pump Court, Temple, E.C.

Groot, Rudolph James Van Ryck de, late clerk to the supreme courts of civil justice of British Guiana, a student of the Middle Temple 22 April, 1882, called to the bar 25 June, 1884 (eldest son of Emanuel Van Ryck de Groot, of Georgetown, British Guiana); born,. Georgetown, British Guiana.

Grosvenor, Hon. Richard Cecil, undergrad. Balliol Coll., Oxon, from Eton, goes the North Wales and Chester circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 12 Jan., 1870 (then aged 21), called to the bar 18 Nov., 1872 (5th son of Robert, Lord Ebury); born 27 Jan., 1848 (see Foster's Peerage).
 * 35, Park Street, Grosvenor Square, W. 2, Harcourt Buildings, Temple, E.C.

Grove, Florence Craufurd, a member of the South-eastern circuit, author of The Frosty Caucasus, a student of Lincoln's Inn 10 Nov., 1857, went to the Inner Temple 12 and called to the bar there 17 Nov., 1862 (eldest son of the Hon. Sir William Robert Grove, a justice of the High Court and a master of the bench of Lincoln's Inn); born 12 March, 1838.
 * 4, Bolton Row, Mayfair, W.

Grove, (Hon.) Sir William Robert, D.C.L., LL.D., F.R.S., a justice of the High Court of Justice (Queen's Bench Division) since 1879, knighted 21 Feb., 1872, M.A., Brasenose Coll., Oxon, 1833, D.C.L. (hon.) 1875, LL.D. (hon.) Camb. 1879, member of royal commission on patents 1864, commissioner for Oxford Univ., a justice of Court of Common Pleas 1871–5, of High Court of Justice 1875–8, author of The Correlation of Physical Forces, etc., royal medallist 1847, president of British Association 1866, was leader of the South Wales and Western circuit, a student of Lincoln's Inn 11 Nov., 1831 (then aged 20), called to the bar 24 Nov., 1835, Q.C., 1853 (only son of John Grove, Esq., of Swansea, co. Glamorgan); born 11 July, 1811; married 27 May, 1837, Emma Maria, dau. of John Diston Powles, Esq.; she died 8 March, 1879.
 * 115, Harley Street, W.; Athenæum Club, S.W.

Groves, Frederick William, M.A. London Univ. 1867, LL.B. 1870, and a member of Convocation, of the India Office, a student of Lincoln's Inn 16 Nov., 1866 (then aged 22), called to the bar 17 Nov., 1869 (eldest son of Frederick Humphrey Groves, of Stockwell, Surrey, architect and surveyor); born 19 May, 1844.
 * India Office; 8, Prince Arthur's Road, Hampstead, N.W.

Grubbe, John Eustace, M.A., Pembroke Coll., Oxon, 1842, from Eton, J.P. Suffolk and Southwold, mayor 1867, 1874, 1879, 1884, a student of the Inner Temple 29 May, 1837 (then aged 22), called to the bar 11 June, 1841 (2nd son of John Grubbe, Esq., of Horsendon House, Bucks); born 14 June, 1815; married 25 March, 1845, Julia Catharine, 2nd dau. of late Rev. George William Hall, D.D., master of Pembroke Coll., Oxon, and canon of Gloucester, and has issue.
 * Southwold, Suffolk; 29, Holland Park, W.; 7, Great George Street, S.W.

Grubbe, Walter John, B.A. Pembroke Coll., Oxon, goes the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 24 April, 1871 (then aged 22), called to the bar 30 April, 1874 (2nd son of John Eustace Grubbe, of London, and of Southwold, Suffolk, aforesaid); born 25 Oct., 1848.
 * 29, Holland Road, W.; 1, Dr. Johnson's Buildings, Temple, E.C.

De Gruchy, William Lawrence, a judge of the royal court Jersey 1878, high constable (mayor) St. Helier's 1876–8, capt. south regt. royal Jersey militia 1872–8, a student of Gray's Inn 21 May, 1870, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1875 (eldest son of late William Philip de Gruchy, of St. Helier's, Jersey, merchant); born 9 Dec., 1838; married 7 May, 1864, Augusta C., dau. of J. Smith, Esq., of Millbrook Lodge, Jersey.
 * Jersey; 12, New Court, Carey Street, W.C.

Grueber, Herbert Appold, hon. secretary Numismatic Society since 1874, a student of the Middle Temple 27 May, 1868, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1871 (3rd son of Rev. Charles Stephen Grueber, B.A., vicar of Hambridge, Somerset); born, 1847.
 * British Museum, W.C.

Grundy, Edward Estlin, a student of the Middle Temple 3 June, 1840, called to the bar 21 Nov., 1845 (2nd son of Rev. John Grundy, of Rockferry, Cheshire); born.
 * Care of Hey Vicarage, Lees, Manchester.

Grundy, Sydney, dramatic author, author of Mammon, The Snowball, The Vicar of Bray (operetta), etc., matric. London Univ. 1866 from Owens' Coll., Manchester, went the Northern circuit 1870–5, a student of the Middle Temple 31 Oct., 1866, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1869 (only son of Charles Sydney Grundy, of Manchester, merchant); born 23 March, 1848.
 * 1, Wynnstay Gardens, Kensington, W.

Guerin, Thomas Austin, equity draftsman and conveyancer, a student of the Middle Temple 30 Jan., 1872, called to the bar 26 Jan., 1877 (only son of John Guerin, of Failsworth Hall, co. Lanc.); born,.
 * 4, St. James' Square, Manchester.

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 Gane, John Lawrence, a member of the North-eastern circuit, lecturer to Leeds Law Students' Society 1880, a student of the Middle Temple 15 Nov., 1867, called to the bar 10 June, 1870 (youngest son of Edward Gane, of Devizes, Wilts, timber merchant, dec.); born,.
 * 13, East Parade, Leeds; 5, Essex Court, Temple, E.C.

Gant, Tetley, M.A., St. John's Coll., Oxon, 1880, a student of the Inner Temple 14 April, 1874 (then aged 20), called to the bar 18 April, 1883 (only son of James Greaves Tetley Gant, of Bradford, Yorks, dec.); born, 1854.
 * Hobart, Tasmania.

Gantz, William Sydenham, a member of the South-eastern circuit, practised before the High Court at Madras, a student of the Middle Temple 1 Nov., 1865, called to the bar 6 June, 1868 (only son of Julius Walter Gantz, of Madras); born,.
 * 126, Harley Street, W.

Garcia, George Lewis, solicitor-general Trinidad since 1869, matric. London Univ. 1865 from Stonyhurst Coll., a student of the Inner Temple 17 Nov., 1865 (then aged 20), called to the bar 6 June, 1868 [eldest son of (Hon.) George Garcia, solicitor-general of Trinidad]; born, 1845.
 * Trinidad

Gardiner, James (Robert), M.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1837, of the duchy of Cornwall office, a student of the Inner Temple 11 June, 1832 (then aged 19), called to the bar 10 June, 1836 (youngest son of John Gardiner, of Smithston, Rhynie, Aberdeen); born, 1813.
 * 51, Victoria Street, Buckingham Gate, S.W.

Gardiner, William Dundas, M.A. (fellow) St. Peter's Coll., Camb., 1856, an examiner to Inns of Court since 1869, a student of Lincoln's Inn 8 April, 1853 (then aged 22), called to the bar 30 April, 1859 (eldest son of William Gardiner, capt. R.N.); born 3 Aug., 1830; married 1 Oct., 1863, Georgina Mary, youngest dau. of Thomas Sidney Cooper, Esq., A.R.A., of Vemon Holme, Kent.
 * 14, Stafford Terrace, Kensington, W.

Dunn-Gardner, Arthur Andrew Cecil, M.A. Balliol Coll., Oxon, a member of the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 3 Jan., 1872 (then aged 20), called to the bar 26 Jan., 1877 (eldest son of John Dunn-Gardner, of Chatteris, co. Camb., J.P., D.L.); born 8 Jan., 1851.
 * 89, Mount Street, W.

Gardner, Francis William, chief of the registration of British ships, etc. (under the Board of Trade) since 1872, formerly in solicitors' department H.M. customs, a student of the Middle Temple 26 Oct., 1863, called to the bar 6 June, 1866 (eldest son of Francis Geary Gardner, of Newton House, Blackheath, Kent, secretary to H.M.'s customs); born, 1836; married 30 June, 1868, Jane, 2nd dau. of late John Stewart, Esq., of Plymouth.
 * 15, Haringey Park, Crouch End, N,; Board of Trade, 82, Basinghall Street, E.C.

Agg-Gardner, James Tynte, of the Oxford circuit, undergrad. Trin. Coll., Camb., from Harrow, J.P. co. Gloucester and lord of the manor of Cheltenham, M.P. Cheltenham 1874–80 (contested 1880), a student of the Inner Temple 18 April, 1868, called to the bar 30 April, 1873 (eldest son of late James Agg-Gardner, Esq., of Cheltenham); born 25 Nov., 1846.
 * Carlton Club.

Gardner, Rev. John, LL.D., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1853, LL.B. 1847, rector of Skelton-in-Cleveland since 1857, lord of the manor of Pilling, Lancashire, J.P., a student of the Inner Temple 18 Nov., 1842 (then aged 19), called to the bar 7 May, 1847 (eldest son of John Gardner, Esq., of Garstang, co. Lanc.); born June, 1823.
 * Skelton Rectory, R.S.O., Yorks

Richardson-Gardner, Robert, F.S.A., M.P. Windsor since 1874, capt.-commandant Hants rifle volunteers 1859–69 and hon. col. North-east London rifles 1869–72, D.L. Tower Hamlets, assumed the additional surname of Gardner by royal licence 1864, commander of the royal order of the Crown of Italy and an officer of the royal order of Leopold of Belgium, a student of the Middle Temple 29 Oct., 1850, called to the bar 6 June, 1853 (5th son of John Richardson, of Swansea, co. Glamorgan, merchant); born, 1827; married , 1854, Maria Louisa, only child and heir of late Henry Gardner, Esq.
 * 41, Grosvenor Square, W.; Constitutional, Salisbury, and Vine Clubs.

Gardyne, David Greenhill Bruce, B.A., Trin. Coll., Oxon, 1866, a member of the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Middle Temple 27 Oct., 1862, called to the bar 6 June, 1868 (4th son of late Major Bruce Gardyne, of Middleton, co. Forfar, and of 37th regt.); born 4 Aug., 1834; married 29 May, 1883, Azemia Helen, eldest dau. of Thomas Sellar, Esq., of Hall Grove, Surrey.
 * 128, Sloane Street, S.W.

Garnett, Charles, J.P. cos. Stafford and Warwick, a student of Lincoln's Inn 5 May, 1837 (aged 26), went to the Middle Temple 1 Dec., 1840, where he was called to the bar 29 Jan., 1841 (eldest son of Robert Garnett, Esq., of Manchester); born, 1811; married , , Mary Anne, dau. of Robert Peel Willock, Esq., and has issue.
 * Bonehill House, Tamworth; Conservative Club.

Garnett, Wade Shenton, B.A., Trin. Coll., Dublin, 1864, practises before the supreme court of Victoria, also a member of the Australian bar, a student of the Middle Temple 3 June, 1864, called to the bar 30 April, 1867 (youngest son of George Gamett, Esq., of Williamstown, Kells, co. Meath); born,.
 * Care of Williamstown, Kells, co. Meath; Melbourne, Victoria.

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 Garratt, John, M.A., Christ Church, Oxon, 1836 (B.A. honours 2nd class classics 1833), J.P. Devon, high sheriff 1869, retired capt. 1st Devon yeomanry, a student of Lincoln's Inn 16 Jan., 1833 (then aged 20), called to the bar 5 May, 1837 (eldest son of John Garratt, Esq., of Bishop's Court, Devon); born 19 July, 1812; married 12 Dec., 1838, Anne, dau. of Richard Heming, Esq., of Hillingdon, Middlesex, and has issue.
 * Bishop's Court, near Exeter; Oxford and Cambridge Club.

Garraway, Robert John, a student of the Inner Temple 6 June, 1853 (then aged 19), called to the bar 26 Jan., 1859 (2nd son of James Garraway, of Dominica, West Indies, merchant); born, 1834.
 * 53, Upper Gloucester Place, N.W.

Garrett, Edmund William, M.A. St. John's Coll., Camb., a member of the Midland circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 18 April, 1871, called to the bar 30 April, 1875 (only son of Henry Garrett, Esq., of Cromac House, co. Antrim, dec.); born 1 Feb., 1851; married 3 April, 1878, Fanny, dau. of late John Andrews, Esq., J.P., of Comber, co. Down, and has issue.
 * Ardeevin, Sunningfields, Hendon; 2, Harcourt Buildings, Temple, E.C.

Garrick, James Francis (barrister and solicitor, practising at Christchurch, Canterbury), a student of the Middle Temple 19 Nov., 1870, called to the bar 7 June, 1873 (2nd son of James Francis Garrick, of Sydney, New South Wales, gentleman); born,.
 * Sydney, New South Wales.

Garrod, Herbert Baring, M.A., Merton Coll., Oxon, 1880, B.A. honours 1872, Newdigate prizeman 1869, senior classical postmaster Merton Coll., Oxon, 1868, a member of the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 16 Nov., 1870 (then aged 21), called to the bar 6 June, 1874 (elder surviving son of Alfred Baring Garrod, of London, M.D., F.R.S.); born 22 May, 1849; married 22 July, 1884, Lucy Florence, 4th dau. of William Colchester, Esq., of Springfield, Ipswich.
 * 22, Clifton Hill, N.W.

Garth, Sir Richard, M.A., chief justice of Bengal since 1875, M.P. Guildford 1866–8, M.A., Christ Church, Oxon, 1845, from Eton, counsel to Incorporated Law Society, went the Home circuit, knighted 13 May, 1875, lord of the manor of Morden, a student of Lincoln's Inn 9 July, 1842 (then aged 22), called to the bar 19 Nov., 1847, Q.C. 24 July, 1866, bencher 26 July, 1866 (eldest son of Rev. Richard Garth, of Farnham, Surrey); born, 1820; married 27 June, 1847, Clara, dau. of William Loftus Lowndes, Esq., Q.C., and has issue.
 * Calcutta; Morden, Surrey; Carlton and Junior Carlton Clubs, S.W.

Garth, William, B.A. Merton Coll., Oxon, a member of the South-eastern circuit, a student of the Middle Temple 17 Nov., 1874 called to the bar 13 June, 1877 (3rd son of Sir Richard Garth, of Morden, Surrey, chief justice of Bengal); born,.
 * 21, Portman Street, W.; 6, Crown Office Row.

Gartside, John Gibson, B.A. St. John's Coll., Camb., a student of the Middle Temple 21 Nov., 1878, called to the bar 17 Nov., 1881 (only son of James Hampson Gartside, Esq., of Manchester); born,.
 * Victoria Park, Manchester; 25, Old Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.

Gaselee, Henry, LL.M., King's Coll., Camb., 1867, B.A. 1864, equity draftsman and conveyancer, a student of Lincoln's Inn 23 Jan., 1864 (then aged 21), called to the bar 18 Nov., 1867 (only son of Binsteed Gaselee, late of Lincoln's Inn, bar.-at-law, dec.); born 19 May, 1842.
 * 30, Brunswick Gardens, Kensington, W.; 11, New Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.

Gaskell, Alexander Barclay Penn, a member of the Midland circuit, a student of the Inner Temple 13 Nov., 1865 (then aged 20), called to the bar 6 June, 1868 (3rd son of William Penn Gaskell, of Ealing, Middlesex, gentleman); born, 1845; married 9 Oct., 1880, Miriam, only dau. of late Isaac Gomes de Costa, of London.
 * 31, Edith Road, West Kensington, W.; 10, King's Bench Walk, Temple, E.C.

Gaskell, Charles George Milnes, M.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1866, from Eton, went the Midland circuit, J.P., D.L. Yorks West Riding, a student of the Inner Temple 21 Nov., 1862, called to the bar 30 April, 1866 (eldest son of James Milnes Gaskell, late of Thornes House, Wakefield, Yorks, M.P., dec.); born 23 Jan., 1842; married 7 Dec., 1876, Lady Catherine Henrietta Wallop, eldest dau. of Isaac, 5th earl of Portsmouth, and has issue (see Foster's Peerage).
 * Thornes House, Wakefield; Wenlock Abbey, Salop; Brooks' Club.

Gaskell, Francis, B.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1873, matric. London Univ. 1874, a student of Lincoln's Inn 8 May, 1878 (then aged 28), called to the bar 17 Nov., 1884 (4th son of late Frederick Gaskell, of Chelsea, M.R.C.S. and L.S.A., dec.); born, 1850.
 * Waresley House, Kidderminster.

Penn-Gaskell, George Edward, B.A., Lincoln Coll., Oxon, 1881, a student of Lincoln's Inn 1 Nov., 1881 (then aged 24), called to the bar 17 Nov., 1884 (6th son of William Penn-Gaskell, Esq., of Ealing, Middlesex); born, 1857.
 * Ealing, Middlesex.

Gaskell, Roger, M.A., Trin. Coll., Camb., 1871, equity draftsman and conveyancer, a student of Lincoln's Inn 28 April, 1866 (then aged 19), called to the bar 30 April, 1870 (eldest son of John Dakin Gaskell, of the Middle Temple, bar.-at-law); born, 1847.
 * 3, New Square, Lincoln's Inn, W.C.

Gasper, Arra Kiel Peter, practises before the High Court at Calcutta, a student of Lincoln's Inn 7 June, 1869 (then aged 19), called to the bar 6 June, 1872 (youngest son of Peter Malcolm Gasper, of Calcutta, zemindar); born, 1850.
 * Calcutta.

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 Garnett, Edmund Peel, 5s. Robert, of Manchester, arm. , matric. 19 May, 1864, aged 18; B.A. 1868, a Roman Catholic priest.  Garnett, Frederick William, y.s. Robert, of Manchester, arm. , matric. 18 March, 1836, aged 18; B.A. 1840, M.A. 1845, of Bonehill House. co. Warwick, a student of Inner Temple 1840, died unmarried 4 April, 1874.  Garnett, Herbert, 4s. Robert, of Manchester, arm. , matric. 23 May, 1861, aged 18.  Garnett, John, of, Cambridge (B.A. 1728, M.A. 1732, B.D. 1739, D.D. 1752), incorp. 6 July, 1738, bishop of Ferns 1752, Clogher 1758, until his death at Dublin 1 March, 1782, aged 73.  Garnett, Lionel, 2s. Henry, of Chester (city), arm. , matric. 20 Nov., 1862, aged 18; B.A. 1865, rector (and patron) of Christleton, Cheshire, 1869.  [5]

Garnett, Richard, s. Edward, of Prescott, Lancashire, pleb. , matric. 2 March, 1718-9, aged 18; B.A. 1722, M.A. 1725.  Garnett, Richard, s. John, of Liverpool, Lancashire, pleb. , matric. 9 April, 1739, aged 20; B.A. 1742, M.A. 1745.  Garnett, Richard, 5s. Peter, of Otley, co. York, gent. , matric. 2 June, 1858, aged 27; B.A. 1862, M.A. 1865.

Garnett, Theodore, 2s. Philip Frederick, of Southport, Lancashire. , matric. 21 May, 1880, aged 18;, B.A. 1884.

Garnet, Thomas, s. John, of Dacre, Cumberland, pleb. , matric. 12 March, 1732-3, aged 20; B.A. 21 Feb., 1737-8, M.A. 1739.
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Garnett, William, s. George, of Nantwich, Cheshire, gent. , matric. 23 May, 1789, aged 22; B.A. 1793, of, Cambridge, M.A. 1797, of Houghton Hall, Cheshire, J.P., rector of Tilston 1798, until his death in 1829, father of Rev. William Bishton Garnett-Botfield.

Garnett, William, 1s. William James, of Garstang, Lancashire, arm. , matric. 15 Oct., 1869, aged 18; B.A. 1874, of Bleasdale Tower and Quernmore Park, Lancashire, J.P., D.L., high sheriff 1879.

Garnett, William Bishton. ., 1835. See.

Garnett, William James, o.s. William, of Manchester, arm. , matric. 19 Oct., 1837, aged 19; B.A. 1841, M.A. 1844, of Bleasdale Tower, Lancashire, captain of the boats at Eton 1837, bar.-at-law, Inner Temple, 1845, M.P. Lancaster 1857-64, died 15 Sep., 1873. See Eton School Lists.

Garnier, Edward Southwell, 5s. Thomas, of London, cler. , matric. 16 Oct., 1869, aged 19; B.A. 1873, M.A. 1876, rector of Quiddenham, Norfolk, 1883.
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Garnier, George, s. George, of Wickham, Hants, arm. , matric. 19 Oct., 1786, aged 17; brother of Thomas 1793.

Garnier, John, 3s. Thomas, of Bishopstoke, Hants. cler. , matric. 19 Feb., 1831, aged 17, B.A. 1834; fellow 1835-8, M.A. 1837, died curate of St. Ebbes, Oxford, 26 March, 1838.

Garnier, John Carpenter, 1s. John Carpenter, of Tavistock, Devon, arm. , matric. 4 June, 1857, aged 18; B.A. 1860, M.A. 1864, of Rookesbury, Hants, and of Mount Tavy, Devon, assumed the additional surname of by royal licence in 1864, a student of Lincoln's Inn 1861, M.P. South Devonshire June, 1873 to Aug., 1884.

Garnier, Russell Montague, 7s. Thomas, of London, cler. , matric. 14 Oct., 1872, aged 18: B.A. 1876.

Garnier, Thomas, s. George, of Wickham, Hants, arm. , matric. 21 Oct., 1793, aged 17; fellow, B.C.L. 1800, rector of Bishopstoke 1807-68, dean of Winchester 1840, until his death 29 June, 1873.
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Garnier, Thomas, 1s. Thomas, of Bishopstoke, Hants, cler. , matric. 6 Feb., 1827, aged 17, B.A. 1830; fellow 1830-5, B.C.L. 1833, chaplain to the Lock Hospital and also to House of Commons 1849-50, vicar of Lewknor, Oxon, 1835-40, rector of Longford, co. Derby, 1840-50, and of Trinity Marylebone 1850-60, appointed dean of Ripon 1860, dean of Lincoln 1860, until his death 7 Dec., 1863.

Garnier, Thomas Parry, 2s. Thomas, of Longford, co. Derby,, matric. 31 Oct., 1859, aged 18; fellow 1863-73, B.A. 1863, M.A. 1866, vicar of South Hincksey, Berks, 1868-71, rector of Cranworth, etc., 1874, hon. canon of Norfolk 1884. See Crockford.

Garnier, William, s. George, of Wickham, co. Southampton, arm. , matric. 4 Feb., 1790, aged 18; B.A. 1793, M.A. 1797, preb. of Winchester 1800, rector of Droxford, Hants, 1801, until his death 18 March, 1835.

Garnier, William, 1s. William, of Chelsea, Middlesex, cler. , matric. 21 Jan., 1819, aged 19; of Rookesbury, Hants, J.P., D.L., died 25 Dec., 1863.
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Garnons, Richard, s. Richard, of Carnarvon (town), arm. , matric. 13 Dec., 1791, aged 17.

Garnons, William Lewes Pugh, of, Cambridge (B.A. 1814, fellow, M.A. 1817, B.D. 1824), adm. 'ad eundem' 21 June, 1832, vicar of Ulting, Essex, 1848, until his death 5 March, 1863.

Garnons, William Wynne, s. Richard, of Carnarvon (town), arm. , matric. 14 Oct., 1787, aged 18.

Garnor, Thomas, s. Thomas, of Gloucester (city), pleb. , matric. 12 March, 1732-3, aged 21; B.A. 1736.

Garnor, William, s. Thomas, of St. Mary de Crypt, Gloucester (city), pleb. , matric. 27 July, 1733, aged 16.

Garnsey, Rev. Henry Edward Fowler, 1s. Thomas, of Newland, co. Monmouth, cler. , matric. 26 Oct., 1843, aged 17; demy 1846-51, B.A. 1848, fellow 1851, M.A. 1851, junior dean of arts 1855, senior dean 1856, bursar 1857, B.D. 1858, vice-president 1859, dean of divinity 1865, usher 1861-6, 1868-75. See Bloxam, iii.; vii.
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Garrard, Charles Bennet Drake, o.s. Charles, of Wheathamstead, Herts, arm. , matric. 14 Jan., 1823, aged 16; of Lamer, Herts, died s.p. in 1884.

Garrard, Charles Drake, s. William Drake, of Westminster, arm. , matric. 17 May, 1774, aged 18 of Lamer, Herts (assumed the additional surname of ), M.P. Amersham 1796 to Jan., 1805, died 27 July, 1817, father of the last named.

Garrard, Christopher, s. Thomas, of Lambourne, Berks, arm. , matric. 17 July, 1718, aged 16; B.A. 1722, M.A. 1725.

Garrard, Frederick Ernest, 2s. Samuel, of Salford Priors, co. Warwick, cler. , matric. 15 Jan., 1875, aged 18;, B.A. & M.A. 1881, curate of Brailes, co. Gloucester, 1882-6, vicar since 1886.

Garrard, Richard, s. Thomas, of Lambourne, Berks, arm. , matric. 19 March, 1722-3, aged 17; B.A. 1726, M.A. 1743.
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Garrard, Richard, s. Richard. of Ramsbury, Wilts, cler. , matric. 23 Oct., 1753; B.A. 1757.

Garrard, Robert, 1s. Robert, of St. John's Wood, Marylebone, London, arm. , matric. 18 May, 1850, aged 18.

Garrard, Samuel, 1s. Samuel Ellis, of Dumbleton, co. Gloucester, cler. , matric. 11 June, 1847, aged 18; B.A. 1851, M.A. 1859, curate of Salford Priors, co. Worcester, 1858-60, vicar since 1860.
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 Garrard, Samuel Bromley, 1s. Samuel, of Salford, co. Warwick, cler. , matric. 31 May, 1873, aged 18; B.A. 1878, M.A. 1880.  Garrard, Samuel Ellis, s. George, of Knightsbridge, Middlesex, gent. , matric. 11 Nov., 1813, aged 20; B.A. 1817, thirty-two years curate of Dumbleton, co. Gloucester, died vicar of Salford, co. Warwick, 2 Jan., 1860.  Garrard, Sawrey George, s. George, of Knightsbridge, Middlesex, pleb. , matric. 15 Nov., 1808, aged 19; B.A. 1812, M.A. 1815.  Garrard, Thomas, s. Samuel, of St. Augustine's, Middlesex, baronet. , matric. 21 Oct., 1715, aged 15; bar.-at-law, Middle Temple, 1722, and of Inner Temple ad eundem 1725, common sergeant of the city of London, died s.p. 10 Feb., 1758.  Garrard, Thomas, s. Charles, of Kingswood, (par.) Lambourne, Berks, arm. , matric. 8 Feb., 1721-2, aged 15; B.A. 1725.  [5]

Garrard, Thomas, 1s. Thomas, of Reading, Berks, gent. , matric. 27 June, 1836, aged 18; scholar and fellow 1836-53, B.A. 1840, M.A. 1844, B.D. 1849, incumbent of Macquarie plains, Tasmania.  Garrard, William, 4s. George, of Knightsbridge, Middlesex, gent. , matric. 5 Dec., 1818, aged 25.  Garrard, William Austin, 3s. Thomas Edward, of Dalston, London, gent. , matric. 16 Oct., 1882, aged 19; B.A. 1885.

Garratt, Charles Eustace, 1s. Charles Foster, of Little Tew, Oxon, cler. , matric. 13 April, 1880, aged 19.

Garratt, Charles Foster, 8s. John, of Kingston, Surrey, arm. , matric. 6 Feb., 1851, aged 18; B.A. 1856, M.A. 1857, vicar of Little Tew, Oxon, 1858-80.
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Garratt, John, 1s. John, of St. Michael's, London, arm. , matric. 21 Oct., 1829, aged 17; B.A. 1833, M.A. 1836, of Bishop's Court, Devon, J.P., D.L., high sheriff 1869, bar.-at-law, Lincoln's Inn, 1837, father of the next named. See Foster's Men at the Bar.

Garratt, John Arthur Thomas, 1s. John, of Hillingdon, Middlesex, arm. , matric. 13 April, 1861, aged 18; J.P. Devon, late grenadier guards, son of the last named.

Garratt, Sudlow, 7s. John, of Kingston, Surrey, arm. , matric. 14 June, 1844, aged 18; B.A. 1848, M.A. 1851, curate of St. Antony, Cornwall, 1852.

Garrell, John Watkins, 1s. Thomas, of Sutton-under-Brails, co. Gloucester, gent. , matric. 8 July, 1826, aged 16.

Garrett, Alfred William, 1s. Alfred, of Hobart Town, Tasmania, arm. , matric. 19 Oct., 1863, aged 19; B.A. 1869.
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Garrett, Frank, o.s. Henry Gibb, of Chelsea, Middlesex, gent. , matric. 21 June, 1854, aged 17; B.A. 1858, M.A. 1861, vicar of Par, Cornwall, 1872, until his death 17 Dec., 1885. See Crockford.

Garrett, George, s. Daniel, of Portsmouth, co. Southampton, gent. , matric. 1 Dec., 1788, aged 16; B.A. 1792, M.A. 1809.

Garrett, Rev. Henry Godden, 2s. William, of St. Peter's, Colebrook, Winchester (city), pleb. , matric. 31 March, 1849, aged 19; chorister 1836-44, clerk 1850-3, head-master Old Malton Grammar School since 1866.

Garrett, Henry Spencer, o.s. Spencer Thomas, of Stoke, co. Stafford, gent. , matric. 5 Feb., 1877, aged 25.

Garrett, James Hugh Eliot, 1s. William Raymond, of Weymouth, Dorset, arm. , matric. 16 Oct., 1885, aged 17.
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Garrett, Rev. John, s. James, of Broadhampton, Devon, gent. , matric. 15 May, 1812, aged 23; of, Cambridge, B.D. 1824, died at Eastbourne, 5 July, 1863.

Garrett, Mark William, 2s. William, of Hursley, Hants, gent. , matric. 11 Oct., 1873, aged 22.

Garrett, Thomas, 3s. John, of Ramsgate, Kent, arm. , matric. 8 Dec., 1826, aged 18; B.A. 1831, vicar of East Pennard 1839-45, held various curacies 1845-68, chaplain South Hants Infirmary 1868, until his death, 7 Oct., 1885. See Foster's Our Noble and Gentle Families.

Garrett, William, s. Alexander, of London, gent. , matric. 20 Nov., 1758, aged 18.

Garrett, William George, s. William, of London, arm. , matric. 15 June, 1786, aged 17; B.A. 1790.
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Garrett, Rev. William Thomas. M.A., Dublin, 1854, (B.A. 1842) adm. 'comitatis causa,' 5 Nov., 1863, of the Hall, Crakehall, Yorks, died 6 Sep., 1884.

Garrett, William Whitehall, 1s. William White (sic), of St. Peter's, Winchester, Hants, pleb. , matric. 5 July, 1845, aged 18; chorister 1836-43, clerk 1845-50, B.A. 1849, M.A. 1874, chaplain R.N. 1855-71, vicar of Hasletown 1874-6, and of Cramlington, Northumberland, since 1880.

Garrick, Rev. George, 2s. Nathan Egerton, of Hampton, Middlesex, arm. , matric. 2 June, 1829, aged 18; B.A. 1833, died at the Rectory, St. Tudy, Cornwall, 23 Nov., 1849.

Garrod, Archibald Edward, 3s. Alfred Baring, of London,, matric. 19 Jan., 1877, aged 19; B.A. 1880, B.Med. & M.A. 1885, D.Med. 1886

Garrod, Herbert Baring, 2s. Alfred Baring, of London, D.Med. , matric. 17 Oct., 1868, aged 19; senior classical postmaster 1868-72, B.A. 1872, M.A. 1880, bar.-at-law, Inner Temple, 1874. See Foster's.
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Garrow, David William, s. William, of Plumpton, Kent, arm. , matric. 20 Oct., 1800, aged 19; B.A. 1804, M.A. 1807, B.D. 1814, D.D. 1818, bar.-at-law, Lincoln's Inn, 1806, rector of East Barnet, Middlesex, 1815, until his death 11 April, 1827.

Garrow, Edward William, 2s. William, of Sutton, Surrey, gent. , matric. 21 May, 1834, aged 18; B.A. 1839, M.A. 1842, P.C. Compton Abdale, co. Gloucester, 1847-67, rector of Bilsthorpe, Notts, since 1867.

Garrow, George William, 3s. David William, of Barnet, Middlesex, doctor. , matric. 10 Nov., 1836, aged 19; exhibitioner 1837-41, B.A. 1840, P.C. St. Patrick, Tamworth, co. Warwick, died chaplain R.N., at Port Royal, Jamaica, 1847-8. See Eton School Lists.

Garry, Francis Nicholas Arbuthnot, o.s. Nicholas Thomas, of Aylesbury, Bucks, cler. , matric. 31 May, 1879, aged 18; B.A. 1883, M.A. 1887.

Garry, Nicholas Thomas, 1s. Nicholas, of St. George's, Hanover Square, London, gent. , matric. 25 Jan., 1849, aged 18; B.A. 1852, M.A. 1855, vicar of Lakenham St. Mark, Norfolk, 1861-73, of Speenhamland, Bucks, 1873-5, and of St. Mary-the-Virgin, Reading, since 1875. See Eton School Lists.
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Garsed, James, 2s. James, of co. Glamorgan, arm. , matric. 8 June, 1820, aged 18.

Garside, Charles Brierley, o.s. Joseph, of Manchester, Lancashire, gent. , matric. 18 May, 1837, aged 19; scholar 1837-40, B.A. 1841, M.A. 1844, curate of Margaret Street Chapel, Marylebone, afterwards in orders of the Church of Rome. See Manchester School Reg., iii.
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Query on usage
Shouldn't the article name be inside double quotations? And then the publication be in italics? Seems more the style that I am used to. — billinghurst  sDrewth  06:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed, sorry for not noticing this comment sooner. Inductiveload—talk/contribs  01:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Where has roman notation been used
I have undone the use of roman notation as the standard is numerals, so adding more variations seems problematic. Can you please identify where it has been used so we can repatriate this matter. Thanks. — billinghurst  sDrewth  10:51, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

 * As far as I edited this, only in the sandbox, but I'll check this. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 10:52, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

 * https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns100=1&ns101=1&ns102=1&ns103=1&ns104=1&ns105=1&ns106=1&ns107=1&ns114=1&ns115=1&ns828=1&ns829=1&ns2300=1&ns2301=1&ns2302=1&ns2303=1&search=insource%3A%2Froman_vol%2F&advancedSearch-current={} is what is using the roman_vol parameter. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:23, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

As far as I can recall, the underlying link generated was the same (i.e normal numerals, per the naming guidelines.), the roman number being a 'display' value only. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

 * roman_iss seems to be unused, other than in the testcases for the sandbox version. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:16, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Not linking issue subpages
Sometimes a periodical's page (e. g. The Czechoslovak Review) is subdivided into volumes (e. g. The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 1) and all the articles from the volume are subpages of this volume page (e. g. The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 1/Permanent Peace and Austria-Hungary), i. e. they are not subpages of individual numbers/issues of the volume (e. g. The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 1/Number 10/Permanent Peace and Austria-Hungary). The advantage is a shorter name of the page and reduced number of slashes, which look too code-like and IMO drive readers away. However, for reference purposes the number/issue should be given. The problem with this template is that when the number/issue is given, it tries to link it, no matter whether the number/issue subpage exists or is desirable to be linked. Would it be possible to add a choice of non-linking the number/issue subpage? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 12:34, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Issue is not required, you can simply do to produce  — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:53, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That is not what I was applying for. Your example simply omits the issue, but if the periodical has issues, the issues should be referenced. I am seeking a possibility of generating a reference including the issue, which just would not be linked, because the issue subpage does not exist and is not intended to be founded. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:25, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Where people have been reproducing a solid string of issues to a volume, I think that accepted practice has been displaying with "issue" or the variant word and the community has tried to have a level of consistency with presentation. When working at the issue level, there are good reasons to be able to present the issue in its published form. So I don't think making that change without a community consensus is the best way to proceed. — billinghurst  sDrewth  21:50, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I observe something different: that not to go to the issue level, although the periodicals have issues, is also a quite common practice and it depends on the preference of contributors. Example: Once a Week (magazine)/Series 1/Volume 3/The training of nurses was published in Once a Week, Series 1, Volume 3, Number 53. There is no reason to redlink the number, if there is no intention to found the page of the number. And there are quite many examples like that: contributors tend not to go to the issue level if it is not necessary, because too many slashes in the title of the page make it reader-unfriendly. However, this template gives only two choices: to display the number redlinked or not to display the number at all. I am asking to add another parameter (e.g. issue_not_linked) which would enable to display the number without the link to the non-existing issue page.
 * BTW: there is also another practice shown on the example of a popular magazine Nature. Here the contributors go to the issue level but reduce the number of slashes by skipping the volumes, see e. g. Nature (journal)/1231/An Analytical Index to the Works of the Late John Gould. People simply do not like the slashes (see e. g. Scriptorium/Archives/2019-08) and until this is solved somehow, they will keep seeking some ways how to reduce them.
 * If this template is intended to be used as widely as possible, there are two ways how it can be achieved: Force the contributors to behave in a unified way and rework the existing irregularities in the systems of periodicals, or adjust the template. The first one seems like a really Sisyphean task, so I suggest to adjust the template, which would at least enable quite a standardized way of referencing the works, no matter of the system the contributors used when adding the works. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 08:14, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

 * I said "[w]here people have been reproducing a solid string of issues to a volume …", and it holds. The template is adapted for where we have the occasional drop and run, and where we simply need a holding pattern methodology.
 * "Once a Week (magazine)" has no issue numbers, and its link template uses this template.
 * Nature article does not prove your point, it got moved from a volume to an issue number, and shouldn't have been moved in the first place, and using the person who moved it as a model of application of the style guide is not a good choice.
 * Subpages is what we do here, and mediawiki uses slashes. Beyond that, it is not an argument for this backwoods page. At this stage, it is what it is.
 * Redlinks at issue level has been happily resolved by either transcluding a ToC at the Issue level, or creating a redirect to where the ToC for the issue has been transcluded
 * I didn't create the methodology used, the community did. There are definitely outliers, though we would prefer that people follow existing practice. I always encourage users where they think that the existing structure/practice is out-dated or wrong or in need of adaptation to have that discussion with the community, rather than just ignore the existing practice. It is nothing but problematic when we have people just independently doing their own thing with disregard to community practice.
 * Quietly pushing patches on templates for some new approach that is outside of current community practice is not ideal. and I am sure that you can see the reluctance to provide a de facto acceptance on a template talk page. — billinghurst  sDrewth  12:30, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ad Once a Week: I am not sure what you mean by "Once a Week" (magazine) has no issue numbers?? Of course it has issue numbers (e. g. issue no. 55). Its link template uses this template, but it does not include the issue numbers which is IMO wrong: issue numbers are traditionally part of references to journal articles. IMO this needs to be fixed.
 * Ad Nature: I am definitely not aware of using any person as a model, or even speaking about any person. This ad hominem argument definitely does not apply to what I wrote. I just wrote that the series of articles from one of the most popular magazines transcribed in Wikisource belongs among those that try to reduce the number of subpages and so cannot use this template for referencing, and that is a fact.
 * Ad subpages: I do not want to solve the problem of abundant subpages here (that would really have to be done somewhere else, but I do not feel like spending that much time on such an unobtainable goal), I just pointed out there exists also different and quite widely used current practice (i.e. many contributors reduce the number of subpages) and that this template would be more helpful if it followed their practice too.
 * Ad transcluding a ToC at the Issue level: this can be done only if such ToC to be transcluded exists. Otherwise the contributor has to design their own auxilliary TOC, but I cannot see any reason why it should be done if the contributor does not go to the issue level anyway. Blacklinking the number of the issue (either with this template or without it) seems much easier.
 * Ad redirect to where the TOC has been transcluded: If the contributor does not go to the issue level, then the TOC is often in the page of the volume. Linking the volume and at the same time redirecting the issue number to the volume seems quite useless.
 * I am far from pushing templates outside of the current practice. The opposite is true: I would like them to follow the current practice in its variety.
 * To conclude it before I return to more important work: Originally I thought I asked for a triffle which would be easily solved and enable me to use the template. The reaction surprised me but I do not want to spend more time with it. However, refusing to adapt the template will not change the (imo desirable) diversity of current practice, it will just result either in non-using the template by some contributors or in omitting the issues from references (as in the case of Once a Week). --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
 * To conclude it before I return to more important work: Originally I thought I asked for a triffle which would be easily solved and enable me to use the template. The reaction surprised me but I do not want to spend more time with it. However, refusing to adapt the template will not change the (imo desirable) diversity of current practice, it will just result either in non-using the template by some contributors or in omitting the issues from references (as in the case of Once a Week). --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:20, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

Reboot after 2 years: this is now possible with the parameter. While I think omitting the issue rank from the structure is not a good idea (and too much care is given to page names in general, not just length or slash counts, which are basically just a database key that's somewhat readable anyway, and are much overstated in importance, I think possibly due to the massive default font size and cultural overspill from the endless enWP drama over article names), the fact is there are a lot of works like this, and we should at least capture the issue numbers in the template even if they don't currently get a link. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 22:52, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 * @Inductiveload: I tried it but it seems that even when the is used, the template supposes that the issue subpage exists and creates a wrong link to the article, eg. The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 2/Issue 11/Story of a Czechoslovak Private instead of The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 2/Story of a Czechoslovak Private. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 09:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

 * Ooooo, I see. Sorry, I did it so the issue would just not get a link but still exist in the hierarchy. So I have changed it to:

 * This allows you to retain the link to The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 2/Number 11-12, as a sibling to The Czechoslovak Review/Volume 2/Story of a Czechoslovak Private. Which seems like a slightly odd layout to me, but I guess it is what it is.
 * NOte: the parameter "no_issue_link = yes" is now "issue_link = no", which I think is conceptually easier in it's interactions with "issue_in_title". Inductiveload— talk/contribs 11:13, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * OK, so helps to solve cases when a periodical has issues but there is no issue level in its structure in Wikisource, and the  omits the link from the issue number to the issue title page if such does not exist. Unfortunately, these two parameters do not work together in combination: Let’s say that we want to use the template for a periodical which has issues but its structure in Wikisource does not have the issue level and it also does not have any special issue title page to link to. Would it be possible to enable the "issue_link" work also in combination with the "issue_in_title"? I would definitely use this combination for the CS Review, as its issue title pages do not contain the full list of included articles anyway, they contain only some highlights, and so linking to them could be confusing. (The full list of articles of The CS Review is in the volume pages and so it is enough to link to the volume.)  --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * It does work if you use them both: one affects the article's link target, one affects whether the issue number gets a link at all:
 * It does work if you use them both: one affects the article's link target, one affects whether the issue number gets a link at all:

 * Inductiveload— talk/contribs 16:24, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, my mistake, I was setting the parameter in a wrong way. Thanks very much! --Jan Kameníček (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Great, my mistake, I was setting the parameter in a wrong way. Thanks very much! --Jan Kameníček (talk) 17:28, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Periodical display
I am not sure if it is connected with the other recent changes or not, but it seems that the parameter stopped working. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 17:49, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
 * I got it, the parameter was renamed to, so I am just going to update the documentation. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 18:06, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Translator
Would it be possible to add a "translator" parameter too? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 21:54, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Ordinal numerals
If the day in the date is e.g. 21, the template displays the date as the 21th instead of the 21st. The same applies to the 31st, but 22nd and 23rd display well. On the other hand 12th displays as the 12nd and the 13th as the 13rd.

Examples:

Can this be fixed, please? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 18:58, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

 * @Jan.Kamenicek ✅. Apparently I forgot the are numbers ending on 1 that are not 11. Inductiveload— talk/contribs 19:35, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Can you also have a look at numerals 12th (*12nd) and 13th (13rd), please? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 19:47, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Urgh, who invented this darn language? Inductiveload— talk/contribs 20:03, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Great, now it works well! Thanks. Jan Kameníček (talk) 22:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

Issue in brackets can be mistaken for a year
At the moment, the issue number is formatted in brackets. This can be mistaken for the year the article was written, for example at Author:William John Thoms: Would something like Title, series #, volume #, issue # be possible instead? Either with or without the words "series", "volume", "issue"/"number"? -- Yodin T 09:46, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

title: Template talk:Article link