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Talk:inhibiting hormone

RFD
SOP; any hormone that inhibits. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:13, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Sigh. Delete - See under "intracellular digestion" above. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:21, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It does say a hormone that inhibits another hormone, so a hormone that inhibits something else would not be an inhibiting hormone. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
 * A cursory glance through the medical literature is unhelpful, because it seems to be underused. If it passes RFD, it'll likely fail RFV. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * See: WT:RFV. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:36, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Everything on the first page of Google Scholar results seem to support the definition given, although I would hesitate to extrapolate from that that it is never used in any other context. Spinning Spark  18:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we need to focus more on the grammar, not the biochemistry, to determine lexicographic includability.
 * This pair of words seems to often occur with hormone functioning as the object of inhibiting functioning as a verb. There are many instances of the words appearing as part of numerous noun-phrase constructions of the general form X-inhibiting factor. This "term" may mostly be an uncommonly used hypernym for all of these constructions or some subset of them. It may also occur as a short form referring to one particular X-inhibiting hormone where the full term appeared earlier in the document. Among the many words that can appear in the X slot are molt (a bodily process, not a hormone), release (a process, not a hormone), melanocyte (a cell, not a hormone). Thus, there seems to be a prima facie case against the definition, which can be refuted by evidence showing that it is used in other ways with the possibly non-SoP definition given. DCDuring TALK 20:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * A sufficiently humble lexicographer might also note that, among OneLook references, none has a full entry for this, one medical dictionary having a redirect to hormone. DCDuring TALK 20:45, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete as a semantic sum of parts. I don't believe the thing inhibited can only be another hormone; the phrase "molt-inhibiting hormone" suggests otherwise. As an auxiliary indicator, the entry has been created by known for shoddy entries. As a second auxiliary indicator,  finds only one dictionary; the entry of the single dictionary reads "See hormone". --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:48, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

RFV
I'm not seeing anything that matches the current definition. See also: WT:RFD. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:38, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Here are some citations that seem to work, based on a search using Somatostatin:
 * see page 678
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That said, this seems to be SOP to me. If tomorrow, someone comes up with a hormone that inhibits X (where X is not a hormone), I think it would be natural to also call that an inhibiting hormone. --BB12 (talk) 07:57, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The RfD discussion contains examples that show not only hormones, but bodily processes (which may or may not be hormone-controlled), cells, etc can be inhibited.
 * I think that valid citations for this should not be of the use of X-inhibiting + hormone. I would argue that such uses are prima facie evidence that inhibiting hormone is not a set phrase, contradicting one argument for inclusion. DCDuring TALK 13:19, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Closed. inhibiting hormone failed RFD. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:inhibiting hormone


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betouch

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  To touch about or all over; contact; concern; regard; handle.
 * 2) * 1832, The progresses and public processions of Queen Elizabeth:
 * Betouching the matter contained in your Lordship's letter, albeit I know mine own insufficiency [...]

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: betouch


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Talk:ʳ

ʳ
Rfd-sense: (chiefly where HTML-marking of superscription is unavailable) Used to represent a superscript ar. This isn't really a use of the letter ʳ. Just as well, you might have definitions for ɟ as "used to represent an upside-down f", or ɘ as "used to represent a mirrored e". -- Liliana • 14:26, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep. This use is directly, unambiguously attested; see . — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 14:39, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

 * At least put "nonstandard|proscribed" on it. Equinox ◑ 14:43, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Done, though I don't think the is appropriate. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:00, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep That's probably the most common use of ɟ on the net, so we might as well that have that definition.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:56, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Mʳ must be moved to Mr. See Mme, which contains Mme (and Mr of the French version). — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 04:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Please see Votes/pl-2012-02/Handling of superscript and subscript letters. I think there's agreement that printed texts should be transcribed as Mr, but there's no agreement on how to deal with born-Unicode texts that are written Mʳ.--Prosfilaes (talk) 05:33, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 01:47, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:ʳ


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Talk:chick with a dick

chick with dick
Gtroy created this, then nominated it for speedy deletion as it should be chick with dick. I disagree, for uncountable nouns it is usual to use an article for the singular, and then not for the plural. For example 'we have a dog', 'we have many dogs' (no article in the second). Mglovesfun (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Delete, I created this by accident and it's not ma fucking word it's a sentence!Lucifer (talk) 03:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But isn't it SOP? Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 03:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If I were going to use a singular of chicks with dicks:, I'd write chick with a dick:, but google returns over 600,000 hits for both phrases, with or without a:. ~ Robin (talk) 04:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Are the terms SOP? It's debatable... - -sche (discuss) 05:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But I agree with Robin, I'd interpret "chick with a dick" as the singular and "chicks with dicks" as the plural, and if either entry was kept, I'd want to keep the other entry accordingly. - -sche (discuss) 05:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Sounds like the RFD should be for the ungrammatical chick with dick entry instead. -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 05:14, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Being ungrammatical is all the case that chick with dick needs. I'm leaning towards keeping the other as well, since the meaning cannot be literal: if a person has a penis, then they are not a chick. It could be taken to metaphorically account for a characteristic of a woman, one who behaves as a man in e.g. giving orders, or to mean two people, a girl and her play toy, never mind the literal interpretation of a young male chicken. DAVilla 18:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

 * My point about grammaticality was that I doubt that chick with dick can be verified -- my strong suspicion is that the form of this phrase actually used in the singular would be chick with a dick. But if folks can find citations, I'm happy.  -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 20:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I've shoe-horned it in. - -sche (discuss) 05:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Both kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 03:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

RFD discussion: April–May 2021
This passed RFD years ago, despite its own creator thinking it should be deleted and the single keep vote coming from someone who had apparently not bothered to read the definition. As noted at Tea room/2021/April, the current definition is probably wrong, and if we redefine it to be "woman with a penis", then it's transparently SOP. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 22:18, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wait, what? You really thought I didn't bother to read the definition? Why exactly? Because I listed alternative interpretations for everything other than the definition? That was the point, that it could be interpreted as something else. Don't you think it's a coincidence that I listed everything except the definition? Am I just wasting my time here? DAVilla 23:32, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It could also be a hermaphrodite, and a trans woman may have had that part of her anatomy removed, but the term is rather lowbrow anyway, and I wouldn't miss it. It may have originated as a porn term for a shemale. DonnanZ (talk) 08:52, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

 * Delete per nom. In addition to DonnanZ's comment, I strongly doubt that every instance of the, to mention another lowbrow term, is supposed to be trans, but this collocation could also include that term. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  11:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - a currently more polite term for a hermaphrodite is intersex, but nonetheless this is still a term not SOP. Facts707 (talk) 11:39, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Eh, no, intersex is not generally applicable to trans women. Despite your edit, the definition still seems incomplete. Also, I really doubt that the term would be applied to every intersex person with a penis. What is not SOP about the term? ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  12:16, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
 * The previous text in Facts707's reply was ambiguous: "a more polite term is intersex". ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Sorry, updated defn. with "appears female..." and my previous comment "a currently more polite term for a hermaphrodite is intersex." Also I meant "narrows the possible combinations of 'chick' and 'dick' to one", e.g. it's not a young chicken with a detective. Facts707 (talk) 03:42, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * : That's not how idiomaticity works. If I say "she's a cute chick", you know I'm not talking about a bird (unless engaging in wordplay), but that doesn't make cute chick or she's a cute chick idiomatic. This is a dictionary composed of words and idiomatic expressions, not a collection of collocations that happen to have unambiguous semantics. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:22, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete as simple sum of parts --Frigoris (talk) 12:58, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are nuances of meaning (and connotation) that a reader unfamiliar with the term would not necessarily intuit. Consider this quote from a 1993 issue of Spy magazine: And, you know, we got to go down to film on Bourbon Street, so you know, you see a lot of interesting things. You know, chicks with dicks is big down there... I think it's guys with tits, but it's called chicks with dicks. As the speaker points out (crudely), the term refers only to AMAB individuals - it would not be used to describe an AFAB person with a packer, for example (except as a deliberate subversion/play on words). It's also highly resistant to substitution (we don't really see synonyms like girls with dicks or chicks with cocks). The term is also strongly associated with a particular period of time (roughly 90s to 2000's) when transgender people were becoming increasingly visible in the wider culture, but usually as objects of mockery or sexual fetishization. Hence why the term (along with tranny, which has a similar trajectory) is now considered highly offensive. All that is to say that, unlike green door, there's a lot to say about this term beyond what's conveyed by its constituent words. Colin M (talk) 17:35, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "the term refers only to AMAB individuals". Except that it doesn't. At least in non-durable usage (typically NSFW), you can also find chick with a dick being used for 'futanari', 'dickgirls' and intersex people if you look around on Google. Sometimes it is implied (albeit seldom for 'dickgirl') in those contexts that the person in question is not to be considered AMAB. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep roughly per Colin M. The fact that it refers only to AMABs is important, I think. I'm pretty sure that someone who rejects transgender identity (like a TERF for example) and considers trans men to be women would still not refer to a trans man who's had a phalloplasty as a "chick with a dick". —Mahāgaja · talk 19:11, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * "The fact that it refers only to AMABs is important", not true, see reply to Colin M. Conservative opponents of trans rights often try to ignore trans men altogether and TERFs, for all their sins, are still radical feminists and aren't very likely to use chick in public discourse. That TERFs have an objectionable ideology doesn't magically cause them to talk like Beavis and Butt-Head. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. There are no nuances. “Chick” is “someone who looks female” and “with a dick” “having a male member”. The reason for this odd combination is left to be imagined by the recipient. It means no more than this. Fay Freak (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Colin M. Men who are effeminate to some degree in appearance, but still representing as men, are not referred to in this way even if could be said that they look female. bd2412 T 22:36, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
 * This does not seem a convincing counter-example; it is unusual to use for an effeminate man. ←₰-→  Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:17, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * In that case, for what sort of men is it usual to use ? bd2412 T 18:56, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * None, and that is the problem with your analysis. That the term isn't used of men is a property of, it's not particular to chick with a dick. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  14:14, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
 * If the term "chick" not being used with men is a property of the term, but "with a dick" is typically a characteristic of men, then doesn't that render this phrase unparseable from its component parts? Along the lines of a horseless carriage or an Invisible Pink Unicorn? bd2412 T 17:29, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * No, that analysis implies that not having a penis is inherent to being woman, a view that Wiktionary obviously should not espouse. Besides, one could substitute chick with woman, girl, etc. and dick with penis, etc., so there's far too much substitutability to make entries based on this analysis. Note that your last example is oxymoronic (something cannot be pink and invisible, meant to coyly imply the hard atheist view that the existence of deities is logically impossible) and your first example seems exocentric to me (an automobile is not called a carriage anymore). ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  14:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Colin M. Imetsia (talk) 17:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
 * RFD-kept by no consensus. Imetsia (talk) 17:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

title: Talk:chick with a dick


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Talk:chick with dick

chick with dick
Gtroy created this, then nominated it for speedy deletion as it should be chick with dick. I disagree, for uncountable nouns it is usual to use an article for the singular, and then not for the plural. For example 'we have a dog', 'we have many dogs' (no article in the second). Mglovesfun (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Delete, I created this by accident and it's not ma fucking word it's a sentence!Lucifer (talk) 03:28, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But isn't it SOP? Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 03:42, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * If I were going to use a singular of chicks with dicks:, I'd write chick with a dick:, but google returns over 600,000 hits for both phrases, with or without a:. ~ Robin (talk) 04:58, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Are the terms SOP? It's debatable... - -sche (discuss) 05:08, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But I agree with Robin, I'd interpret "chick with a dick" as the singular and "chicks with dicks" as the plural, and if either entry was kept, I'd want to keep the other entry accordingly. - -sche (discuss) 05:10, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Sounds like the RFD should be for the ungrammatical chick with dick entry instead. -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 05:14, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Being ungrammatical is all the case that chick with dick needs. I'm leaning towards keeping the other as well, since the meaning cannot be literal: if a person has a penis, then they are not a chick. It could be taken to metaphorically account for a characteristic of a woman, one who behaves as a man in e.g. giving orders, or to mean two people, a girl and her play toy, never mind the literal interpretation of a young male chicken. DAVilla 18:46, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

 * My point about grammaticality was that I doubt that chick with dick can be verified -- my strong suspicion is that the form of this phrase actually used in the singular would be chick with a dick. But if folks can find citations, I'm happy.  -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 20:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I've shoe-horned it in. - -sche (discuss) 05:16, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Both kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 03:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

RFV discussion: August–September 2012
Note the RFD discussion (currently still on WT:RFD, though closed). - -sche (discuss) 04:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

 * Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 03:48, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:chick with dick


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marginalistically

Adverb

 * 1) In a marginalistic manner.

title: marginalistically


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Talk:joint account

RFD
This was tagged RFV years ago and never listed... but frankly the fact that it's a [[joint]] [[account]] seems more pressing. - -sche (discuss) 01:53, 24 March 2012 (UTC)

Keep the banking definition, it's idiomatic because you have to somehow now that it is referring to a join (bank) account, ax the other one.Lucifer (talk) 01:17, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

 * One could have a joint account at a any financial institution or indeed at many non-financial institutions. Indeed an account of a married person at any vendor is a joint liability of the married couple. At most, wording like "such as a bank account" is warranted in the absence of evidence that joint account much more frequently means "joint bank account" than account in the applicable sense means "bank account". DCDuring TALK 22:53, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Does joint imply married, then?
 * Keep. This isn't just an account that's held jointly, it's a type of account where both parties are known and have defined access, restrictions, and liabilities. I could share an email address with a business partner, but that wouldn't be a "joint account". DAVilla 01:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, that would be a joint account / joint e-mail account. - -sche (discuss) 22:47, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Kept. Note that a sense is still tagged with RFV. — Ungoliant (Falai) 03:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

RFV
Rfv-sense. Tagged years ago but not listed. Might be in widespread use, in which case, feel free to wave your hand at citations and de-tag the entry... - -sche (discuss) 04:18, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this article durably archived? If so, that's one. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:56, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted. The sense was SOP, anyway. - -sche (discuss)

title: Talk:joint account


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Talk:slim chance

slim chance
SOP: slim + chance --Cova (talk) 11:27, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Might be a good idea to include the collocation in usage examples or citations at the appropriate senses of [[slim]] and [[chance]]. DCDuring TALK 13:34, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Just one question, for the sense of slim, can anything other than a chance be slim? Mglovesfun (talk) 20:22, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Same or closely related concept: odds, possibility, hope, prospects.
 * Similar concept: evidence. DCDuring TALK 21:20, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * And with chance, also small chance, good chance, etc. Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Perhaps misguidedly created to go with fat chance? Equinox ◑ 22:11, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, it does not mean skinny+probability, it means unlikely.Lucifer (talk) 01:14, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * @ Lucifer, the fact it's possibly to misinterpret it by deliberately attempting to misinterpret it means nothing. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:35, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Right, I quote CFI: "For example, bank has several senses and parking lot has an idiomatic sense of "large traffic jam". However bank parking lot can't possibly mean "to put a large traffic jam in a financial institution". With such clearly wrong interpretations weeded out, the remaining choices are "place to park cars for any of several kinds of business" or "place to park cars by, for or on a river bank or similar (as opposed to, say, the hill parking lot)." The whole phrase could plausibly mean either, depending on context (though the first is likely far more common), and so the phrase is not idiomatic." - -sche (discuss) 18:34, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * But we have a sense at "slim" saying "tiny, very small", which also works in things like slim hope. Equinox ◑ 01:19, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 04:14, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. This does appear to be SOP wrt the required sense of "slim". Some dictionaries have this nonetheless: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/slim+chance, http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/fat+chance in McGraw-Hill Dictionary of American Idioms and Phrasal Verbs. (Checking other dictionaries is outside of CFI, I know.) --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:56, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's outside of CFI for attestation, but not for idiomaticity. That almost matches the lemming test except that, as written, it applies only to specialized dictionaries for some reason. DAVilla 02:58, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep because if we're going to keep non-idiomatic phrasebook entries, we have no excuse not to keep a basic idiom. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:41, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This gets about 400.000 Google hits, but "slight chance" gets over a million. Idiomatic and "often used" are not the same thing. Delete. To Μετάknowledge I wish to say that one stupidity should not be used to justify another. --Hekaheka (talk) 13:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as stupidities go, I would rather you campaign against something that at least has a slim chance of ever being used (I'm illiterate). --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 21:11, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. DAVilla 02:55, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wait, why is this not the OPPOSITE of fat chance? I'm undecided. DAVilla 06:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Unlikely or small chances can be little, outside, off, remote, slight, faint, long, low, slender, slim, thin, and odd, to mention those that appear among the top 100 collocations with chance at BNC. DCDuring TALK 03:57, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I would say the idiomatic phrases are outside chance and off chance. I'm not sure about faint chance and long chance where it seems we're missing more basic definitions. (I was surprised by remote and odd.) DAVilla 05:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete SOP. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:29, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete. Fails the in between test and others. —Internoob 19:24, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 03:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:slim chance


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Talk:overhead

overhead
sense: (business, accounting} of, or relating to the operating expenses of a business.

This sense is not comparable and does not grade (*very overhead). Therefore when overhead modifies a noun attributively, we should present it as a noun. DCDuring TALK 12:32, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete: sense covered in the noun section Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 04:13, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 04:05, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Adverb: so as to be completely submerged or deeply involved
to plunge overhead in water; to sink overhead in debt. https://www.wordreference.com/definition/overhead --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:41, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

title: Talk:overhead


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Talk:insert mode

insert mode
Per Requests for deletion. - -sche (discuss) 20:38, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

 * Probably delete. It is the mode where insertion occurs. Not as clear-cut as overtype mode, though, since things other than text can be "inserted" on a computer, and I doubt this term is used for those (though it certainly could be in theory). Equinox ◑ 01:41, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, but possibly add a specialised computing definition to insert. Something along the lines of (verb) "To type text without deleting the characters after the cursor" or (noun) "A feature in wordprocessing whereby characters after the cursor move to make room for newly typed text." along the lines of overtype. Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:55, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 04:40, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:insert mode


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Talk:reptilian

reptilian
Rfd-redundant: sense 3 is the same as sense 1. Sense 2 is quite similar as well.... —Internoob 00:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say that there are at least two senses of reptilian bound up in those definitions. One pertains to reptiles themselves: "a reptilian organism", "reptilian egg"; a second sense refers to similarity with reptile characteristics: "Early ancestors of mammals had a reptilian walk," or "His reptilian stare unnerved me."  --EncycloPetey (talk) 01:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Sense 3 is definitely redundant, so delete. Maybe sense 1 could go too. I'd say "Early ancestors of mammals had a reptilian walk" is also sense 2, and "His reptilian stare unnerved me." seems more like sense 4. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 01:39, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I would argue that reptilian walk is actually idiomatic, because it refers to a gait that results from having the legs at the side of the body rather than the bottom, much like reptiles do. —CodeCat 02:01, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think in this case, it would have been ok to skip the rfd and just merge #1 and #3. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:31, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 04:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Definition 2 of noun
Definition 2 of noun says ' One of a race of extraterrestrial shape-shifters purported to secretly control the world.' I think that is a mistaken definition. This is in reference to David Icke's use of the term reptilian, Peter Myers has told me 'I understand that phrase of David Icke's is metaphorical, not to be taken literally.' I don't think when Icke and others write about the world's leaders being reptilian they mean it literally, I think it is metaphorical. So I don't think that definition is appropriate because I don't think anyone literally believes reptiles rule the world. RandomScholar30 (talk) 02:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I'll create an RFV. Equinox ◑ 02:07, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

RFV discussion: December 2016–April 2017
"(ufology) One of a race of extraterrestrial shape-shifters purported to secretly control the world." Questioned by a user at Talk:reptilian. Equinox ◑ 02:08, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I discussed this with an Australian journalist named Peter Myers years ago in the context of criticizing a source he used named Eustace Mullins who used the phrase. I argued that Mullins using the phrase suggested Mullins was not a reliable source and Myers replied "the reptilian part [of Mullins' writings] is metaphorical" and "I understand that phrase of David Icke's is metaphorical, not to be taken literally". I'm inclined to agree with Myers' interpretation, on reflection, I don't think anyone has ever argued the world is literally ruled by reptiles. RandomScholar30 (talk) 02:23, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Sometimes a metaphorical meaning deserves a dictionary sense, like pig = "greedy eater". I don't think greedy eaters are literally pigs. Equinox ◑ 02:26, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Well, we would have to change the current definition to reflect a metaphorical meaning, I think. The current definition appears to be literal. RandomScholar30 (talk) 02:30, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I believe Icke's expression 'reptilian' is meant to describe political leaders as cunning, evil and duplicitous. It is similar to Hitler's description of Jews as 'parasites', in that it is intended as an offensive metaphor, not a literal statement of fact. So it should be defined in a way to show that its meaning is metaphorical rather than literal. RandomScholar30 (talk) 04:44, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really matter what Icke meant. The originator of a term doesn't own it once it becomes part of the language, and it means what the people who use it mean when they use it. If you search on the plural to weed out the adjectival uses, there seems to be enough usage that reflects the current definition. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:11, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * FWIW, I’ve spoken with a decent number of people who have argued exactly this (that »the world is literally ruled by reptiles«). Whatever Icke meant, others have subsequently latched onto the literal interpretation. —Vorziblix (talk) 18:21, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Its clearly sometimes used metaphorically though. For example David Duke once said "Yet, in the end it should be clear that Michael Hart was the one who chose to make a disruption in a reptilian response to my rather mild question. " I'm pretty sure Duke was not saying Hart was literally a reptile. Duke's use of the term relates to Icke's, I think, because Icke's work has highly Anti-Semitic themes, so that was the basis of Duke using the term. I think both Icke and Duke meant it as a derogatory term with at least partly Anti-Semitic tones, similar to Hitler's use of the term 'parasite'. It is meant to describe world political elites as cunning, evil and duplicitous. So perhaps a metaphorical definition should be added after the literal one. RandomScholar30 (talk) 12:30, 22 December 2016 (UTC)

 * Ignoring the question of whether it is literal or metaphoric, it is pretty easy to cite (I have added the requisite three), although in this sense it usually appears capitalized. Kiwima (talk) 17:16, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

 * RFV-passed Kiwima (talk) 00:00, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

title: Talk:reptilian


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Talk:topiary

topiary
RFD adjective senses. --Backtobasix (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Senses? Only one is tagged. The etymology claims that the adjective sense is much older than the noun, so I'm not sure about this. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 16:12, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the adjective is the main entry in the OED. The noun is then defined as "the topiary art" (rather like the French as WF ought to know). SemperBlotto (talk) 16:16, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I doubt that this meets the criteria that distinguish an adjective from a noun. DCDuring TALK 17:17, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What if it was an adjective before it was a noun? A new sense never overrides an older one. DAVilla 18:18, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't think we took diachronic derivation all that seriously, based on our treatment of the derivation categories for affixes. In any event, the Latin adjective was used substantively. If we just want to follow the lead lemming's assertion, we can, of course. The evidence is solely attributive use, AFAIK. DCDuring TALK 18:51, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I agree with DAVilla, if the adjective preceded the noun, then the term cannot be only a noun used attributively. (See also Talk:aliquot.) - -sche (discuss) 20:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:04, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:topiary


text:
marginalistic

Adjective

 * 1) Tending towards marginalism; having the characteristic of being marginal.

title: marginalistic


text:
Talk:sexual tension

sexual tension
Looks very much like sexual + tension to me. The current smartass definition only serves to confuse an occasional visitor: "physically induced libidinal unrest"!! Delete per "no useful content". --Hekaheka (talk) 03:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * delete - yet more SoP. SemperBlotto (talk) 06:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's super clear cut, but I think delete. In physical tension, the same sense of tension is used, so this isn't unique. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:11, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * A perfectly ordinary SoP combination with hormone-enhanced import. We'll see it again. DCDuring TALK 13:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If that's a concern, it can be protected. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really a concern. Protection would be worse. I'd forgotten to vote to delete. DCDuring TALK 22:07, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete SOP. —msh210℠ (talk) 16:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. No more merits an entry than existential malaise or erotic feeling. Equinox ◑ 16:37, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. SOP of: sexual (Of or relating to having sex) + tension (Psychological state of being tense (Showing signs of stress or strain; not relaxed)). Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 17:05, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep but rewrite definition. Wikipedia's definition of "A social phenomenon that occurs when two people interact and one or both feel sexual desire, but the consummation is postponed or never happens." seems idiomatic. ---> Tooironic (talk) 22:36, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia's definition looks almost equally dubious to me. For how long do you have to postpone in order for the "social phenomenon" to be called sexual tension? And why limit the number of people involved to two? --Hekaheka (talk) 04:22, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - familiar from psychology. If WP seems dubious, well, that's the nature of Freudianism. It's still more than just the SOP it seems to be with our present def. --Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:13, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep it's psychomologicalLucifer (talk) 07:20, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Occurs between compatible individuals, not between rivals although the nature of their rivalry may be sexually aggressive. DAVilla 02:22, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per DAVilla. bd2412 T 17:23, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 17:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 08:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:sexual tension


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Talk:business trip

business trip

 * We should deport this word back to Durango. Lucifer (talk) 05:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 13:11, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Keep, you could but that is not what people understand the term to mean. I rescind my nomination.
 * Keep, if only for the translations. Furthermore, if I did not know what this referred to, I would have thought it was a company outing. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:54, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. DCDuring TALK 19:58, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. SoP. And the definition is not right either - I can go on a business trip tomorrow but that doesn't necessarily mean the expenses are paid by an employer. I could just be going on a trip on my own accord for some random business opportunity. ---> Tooironic (talk) 22:42, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Above comment unsigned by Luciferwildcat at 03:25 on 6 April 2012. Striking as withdrawn. DAVilla 06:22, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Unstriking, nominations shouldn't be rescinded when there's a fairly even debate going on. Or if you want to think of it another way, I'm tagging it. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep common collocation. < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 18:23, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * So is lives there. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 10:30, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep --Anatoli (обсудить) 10:40, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * road trip: and field trip: are more common at COCA than business trip. The following at 3/4 to 1/3 as common: return trip, fishing trip, camping trip, day trip, shopping trip, ski trip, and side trip.
 * Such English noun-noun compounds are sometimes viewed as being construed with a preposition. The term using fishing, camping, shopping, and ski(ing) (?) are construed with for:. Perhaps ski trip and return trip could be considered as being construed with to:. Side trip and road trip might be construed with on (the) and field trip with into (the). The "for" construction may be the most common on this kind of construction. I would have thought this needed lexical entries the least and would require the largest number to cover common instances. DCDuring TALK 11:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * A construal with on: would justify the "often" clause in the definition.
 * Most English noun-noun compounds have one significantly more common "prepositional" interpretation of this kind. The logic often invoked to defend these by Dan P. would apply to all such compounds. Moreover, there is no convenient way to confirm that one construal is more common than another, unless the difference in frequency is truly overwhelming. DCDuring TALK 11:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Our current definition is "Travel for business purposes, often paid for at least partially by the employer". The "often..." part, inasmuch as it is an "often..." part, is not part of the definition of the term, but a mere random fact about the term's referent. (One could as well say "often including a airplane flight".) (That needs to be cleaned up.) So our current definition really is then just "Travel for business purposes", which seems SOP to me. Could it theoretically mean something else that it pretty much never does, taking it out of SOPland? Not that I can think of. Delete. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:23, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 04:13, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:business trip


text:
Talk:know someone in the biblical sense

know someone in the biblical sense
Shouldn't this just be a sense in our definition of know:? SemperBlotto (talk) 13:14, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * p.s. Several redirects exist.
 * There are so many senses of sense, in, and biblical that I don't see how this can be deleted. DCDuring TALK 13:54, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Agree with DC. The word "know" is used in the Bible in the both the traditional sense of knowledge (Genesis 4:9: "And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper?"); and in the sexual euphamism sense; but to "know someone in the biblical sense" refers only to sex. bd2412 T 13:56, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Wasn't he being sarcastic? Equinox ◑ 14:02, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Was he? I think the point is valid; certainly to a non-English speaker the phrase as a whole would be a mystery, as it requires prior familiarity with its meaning to be comprehensible. Certainly it is counterintuitive. If you told a person who was unfamliar with the phrase that you would like to "know them in the biblical sense" they would probably assume that you wanted to pray with them or engage in other religious activity. bd2412 T 14:19, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I failed to be clearly sarcastic. DCDuring TALK 18:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Although I haven't actually voted here, I agree with those below who find the entry for in the biblical sense to provide a satisfactory resolution to this question. I would redirect this title there. bd2412 T 21:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I think there is a certain amount of set-phrasiness about this. Equinox ◑ 13:58, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, I think; the -less use of — b.g.c. finds nonce-usages with "marry", "be with", "take possession of", and "have", among others — suggests to me that this phrase has taken on a life of its own. (Besides, the KJV uses the word "know" in lots of ways; the very first occurrence seems to be Genesis 3:7, " they knew that they [were] naked; ", which despite the nakedness is just the ordinary modern sense of "know".) —Ruakh TALK 15:28, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * (Original poster of the entry)  Keep  No-one would read "Alice knew Bob" in a contemporary text as meaning "Alice had sex with Bob", even if the word was in a sexual context ("Alice and Bob were members of a swingers club, and knew each other" would not be read as implying they had sex). "in the biblical sense" is therefore not just a clarifier (in the way that "in the literal sense" would be for something like decimate), it's part of a phrase that's fundamentally divorced from the word "know" as it's currently understood. I think this passes the fried egg test. Smurrayinchester (talk) 16:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It looks like a weird entry title being 6 words long, but I don't see how to decompose it into parts (by adding definitions to know, biblical, etc.) to make it sum of parts. Ergo, keep. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:59, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't much like entries that contain the word "someone". You could add "someone" or "something" to any transitive verb. Could it be changed to "know in the biblical sense"? 86.179.113.102 17:05, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * in the biblical sense: and the synonymous biblically: seem to me to be certainly idiomatic and includable. The prepositional phrase is clearly derived from the phrase in question. But I conjecture that the phrase in question occurred as a kind of double-entendre with attached indicator. Thus in the biblical sense: is like the similar indicator as the actress said to the archbishop:.
 * If the full phrase is deemed idiomatic, I would like to know whether attestable terms ending in "X in the 'y' sense" where 'y' is something like a context or topic are all includable. Or is it just if there is some complication like double entendre, irony, or humor involved? DCDuring TALK 18:55, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * My "keep" vote, at least, was based on much more than double entendre, irony, and humor: it was based on specific evidence that this set phrase has been reanalyzed as an idiom. You can dispute that evidence, of course, but I don't think you can claim that it applies equally to a wide class of entries. —Ruakh TALK 19:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems to me that the phrase in the biblical sense: is the idiom. The one other OneLook reference that "includes" it handles it as a redirect to "know", though a redirect too in the biblical sense would be even more useful. DCDuring TALK 19:26, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Can you do anything else "in the biblical sense"? 86.179.113.102 21:44, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * -- DCDuring TALK 23:33, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Are you sure that has the relevant "sexual/carnal" meaning? I can't see that actual page, but overall the book seems to have a strong religious agenda, encouraging people to look at relationships in religious terms, and containing statements like "how many of us can honestly say we understand relationships from the biblical perspective". I think of "know in the biblical sense" to be a bit irreverent, a bit nudge-nudge-wink-wink. I'm not sure if it fits the tone of that book. 86.179.113.102 01:52, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Quite so.
 * -- DCDuring TALK 02:13, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, in that case I vote redirect to in the biblical sense and explain there that the expression is often (but not necessarily) used with "know". 86.179.113.152 13:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete (changing my vote on the basis of in the biblical sense). Mglovesfun (talk) 11:03, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Since we now have in the biblical sense, I'm going to change my vote to delete. "Know in the biblical sense" still seems subtly different from the "know" "in the biblical sense", largely because unlike "have", "met" or "make one's relationship official", "know" actually does have a biblical sense that is being referenced, but that's probably splitting hairs, since like I say, no-one would recognise this sense any more in contemporary writing without the "in a biblical sense" tag. I'm also not quite sure how this should be explained on the know page. Perhaps add to sense 7 something like "In contemporary use, usually indicated by biblically or in the biblical sense." Smurrayinchester (talk) 16:07, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Though I am glad that I added the missing sense of biblically: and in the biblical sense:, I am not sure that the full challenged expression is not idiomatic.
 * The non-idiomatic usage of the term in the biblical sense in X in the biblical sense seems to be followed by an explicit definition of X, at least in the first use of X in the passage, section, or larger unit of writing. Very few uses of in the biblical sense occur without know. No OneLook reference has in the biblical sense, though three (really one) have know in the biblical sense, albeit only as a redirect. This seems to be one of the rare cases where we can find an appropriate lexical entry (in the biblical sense) to cover the construction generalizing from a core idiom (the know form). So, I lean toward keep.
 * One interesting aspect of the usage is that there are many citations of the challenged term that refer to another biblical sense of know: as also being "the" biblical sense. In those cases it seems to refer to a sense of know intentionally (mis?)applied to prevent any sexual sense from corrupting the children or women. DCDuring TALK 16:49, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This is part of the etymology of in the biblical sense. Keep. DAVilla 02:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete < class="latinx" >Ƿidsiþ 07:51, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Definitely idiomatic. Few people are immediately familiar with the archaic sense of "know" being referenced here, and there is conceivably more than one way to "know" someone in a "sense" that might be deemed "biblical" (belonging to the same church?), so you can't really obtain the precise meaning of this set phrase ("to have sex with someone") by breaking the sum into its parts. Astral (talk) 22:51, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
 * , but I thought our convention was to replace person X in set phrases with “one”, not “someone” (frex, on this page: how one rolls, lose one's virginity). ~ Robin (talk) 11:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * When the headword is a verb phrase, "one" refers to the subject (provided that the subject is generally expected to be human or at least animate), whereas "someone" refers to anyone else. (This is normal English usage in non-finite clauses without specific subjects or implied subjects: one might say "losing one's virginity should be a joyous thing", whereas [*]"knowing one in the biblical sense should be a joyous thing" would mean something different, in that it assumes that some noun after the "one" is implied by the context.) When the headword is not a verb phrase, I think the two are generally more or less equivalent, and I'm not sure whether we have a standard one way or the other. —Ruakh TALK 14:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * , but I thought our convention was to replace person X in set phrases with “one”, not “someone” (frex, on this page: how one rolls, lose one's virginity). ~ Robin (talk) 11:43, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * When the headword is a verb phrase, "one" refers to the subject (provided that the subject is generally expected to be human or at least animate), whereas "someone" refers to anyone else. (This is normal English usage in non-finite clauses without specific subjects or implied subjects: one might say "losing one's virginity should be a joyous thing", whereas [*]"knowing one in the biblical sense should be a joyous thing" would mean something different, in that it assumes that some noun after the "one" is implied by the context.) When the headword is not a verb phrase, I think the two are generally more or less equivalent, and I'm not sure whether we have a standard one way or the other. —Ruakh TALK 14:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:03, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

"Erkennen" in German translations
is the same 2A0A:A541:5A30:0:B097:9819:83CC:DC5A 23:09, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

title: Talk:know someone in the biblical sense


text:
Talk:for kicks

for kicks
As for fun was deleted, there's a stronger case for SOP-ity --Itkilledthecat (talk) 17:05, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd keep it anyway. "Fun" most prominently means a good time, while "kicks" most prominently means "strikes or hits with the foot". bd2412 T 17:10, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to kicks. DCDuring TALK 17:18, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This may be a keeper, as from my personal experience, kicks is rarely used outside of this expression to mean enjoyment or excitement. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:33, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean: Kicks just keep gettin' harder to findSee WP here or here and YouTube here. But perhaps you could support your case with some evidence. Or maybe I'm the only one who gets his kicks from citations. DCDuring TALK 18:07, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And then there's Get Your Kicks on Route 66. If we're going to keep because of usage that doesn't mention feet, then we might as well go through I Get a Kick Out of You and create a phrase entry for the first phrase in each verse: "I get no kick from champaigne", "I get no kick from a plane", etc. Not that I'm totally for deletion- even though it seems to me like the idiomaticity actually rests more in the phrase just for kicks.Chuck Entz (talk) 06:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * If we're citing uses of "kicks" from songs, then "Get teenage kicks right through the night" is yet another without "for". Actually, I think the non-for version is possibly more widely used than "for kicks". Smurrayinchester (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. If someone says, "I'm going to try karate for fun," there's no ambiguity over the intended meaning, because "fun" isn't idiomatic. But if someone says, "I'm going to try karate for kicks," they could be saying they want to try karate to learn specific kicking techniques or for fun, because "for kicks" can be either a literal statement or a figurative expression. Astral (talk) 19:03, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Ambiguity is a characteristic of the use of any polysemic word. Ambiguity increases if more than one polysemic term is used in a phrase or longer unit. Any phrase or clause using set or head is very ambiguous.
 * As for "for fun", consider:
 * This is ambiguous except for the context provided by the title, until the ambiguity is mostly resolved by punches. DCDuring TALK 22:44, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
 * This is ambiguous except for the context provided by the title, until the ambiguity is mostly resolved by punches. DCDuring TALK 22:44, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

 * If you're reading a book about kickboxing, it can pretty much be taken for granted that instances of "kicks" refer to the motion made with one's leg. The authors aren't going to suddenly switch to using the idiomatic sense of "kicks" without clarification, because that's just going to confuse readers. But if you were to overhear someone say, "I'm going to try karate for kicks" without any more context to go on then that ("I want to meet new people, so I'm going to try karate for kicks" or "I want to strengthen my leg muscles, so I'm going to try karate for kicks"), then there could be ambiguity. Astral (talk) 00:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

 * I find it strange it was nominated for deletion. It's idiomatic and it's obvious. Keep, of course. --Anatoli (обсудить) 00:46, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

 * Redirect to kicks. It's perfectly harmless, there's just no reason to have this and not for fun, for jollies or for shits and giggles. This way, someone who searches "for kicks" will still find what they need, without splitting the definition across the two pages. Smurrayinchester (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirect to [[kicks]]. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:01, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Kept. — Ungoliant (Falai) 05:10, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:for kicks


text:
Talk:now wife

now wife
It is now (adjective) + wife. You can also find "now husband" and "now spouse" in all kinds of legal documents. Equinox ◑ 15:03, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems completely SOP, yeah. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:34, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved to now. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 07:51, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Now anything. bd2412 T 22:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:now wife


text:
Talk:social skills

social skills
Looks like this might just be social: skills:. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:56, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The American Psychological Association's dictionary has it. Also a business glossary and McGraw-Hill Concise Dictionary of Modern Medicine at OneLook. In the psychology and management context, the social skills deemed relevant are almost always restricted, excluding those that are merely self-serving [for the individual having them DCDuring TALK 18:27, 23 May 2012 (UTC)]. I think looking at the definitions offered would probably confirm this, though finding confirmation through attestation would be both better and much harder. DCDuring TALK  16:19, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, while an important concept they are simply skills of a social nature. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:52, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, for reasons I can't articulate. :-/  —Ruakh TALK 17:18, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps "rocking chair" or "fried egg" 'tests'? DCDuring TALK 18:30, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is a set phrase used widely in psychological/behavioural fields. Based strictly on its parts, "social skills" may be understood to indicate skills related to society, but not specifically "personal skills needed for successful social communication and interaction", which is what the term is used pretty much exclusively to refer. Astral (talk) 04:34, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 17:52, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 08:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:social skills


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Talk:Beatles

Beatles
This is a dictionary after all, bands, even "notable" ones like the Beatles, simply don't belong here. --The Evil IP address (talk) 19:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Tempted to agree, although if only one band belongs in a dictionary it's probably the Beatles. (Of course regardless we can have Beatlesque and Beatlemania.) The etymology is interesting too. Equinox ◑ 19:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

 * However, what about the word Beatle? That's not the name of a band, but is widely used to refer to any one of the band. Compare Pringle (not a trademarked brand, like Pringles, but widely used to refer to a unit of their snacks). Equinox ◑ 19:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete. Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV 19:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * We could do something like and retain the Wikipedia link. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per Equinox and Mglovesfun, when two members of the band perform together they are referred to as "Beatles" (as in a Beatle, and another Beatle). bd2412 T 22:40, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Similarly done for other bands as well, e.g. Beach Boys. --The Evil IP address (talk) 11:09, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep - "all words in all languages". (I can find you citations if you want) SemperBlotto (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep - Isn't this what WT:BRAND is about? There are lots of use of phrases like "the new Beatles" meaning a band expected to metaphorically conquer the world. That seems to fit the examples at Criteria for inclusion/Brand names.Smurrayinchester (talk)

 * But Beatles isn't a brand name. -- Liliana • 21:15, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. According to this article the trade mark is owned by Apple Corps, a company formed by The Beatles. --Hekaheka (talk) 01:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Consider:
 * 2004, Elliot J. Huntley, Mystical one: George Harrison : after the break-up of the Beatles, p. 235:
 * When George and Eric arrived in Japan at the New Tokyo International Airport on November 28 they were mobbed like Beatles.
 * 2000, The Beatles Anthology, p. 160:
 * We were going to all these shops and buying little uniforms for ourselves. That's also why we looked like Beatles,- beside the haircut, we were all looking the same.
 * Notice, "like Beatles", not "like The Beatles"; the references appear to be to plurals of Beatle. If two people go out dressed as Lennon and McCartney, they are two short of being dressed as the Beatles, but are clearly dressed as Beatles. bd2412 T 16:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * @Smurrayinchester so if someone says 'the next Wayne Rooney' you think we should have an entry for Wayne Rooney, do you? We are supposed to be a complement to Wikipedia, and Wikipedia a complement to us, where entries with no linguistic information are at Wikipedia only. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:17, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
 * People are a little different, but I'd say that, for instance, the existence of "Bend it like Beckham" is a point in favour of including Beckham. The point I was trying to make is that there is lexical information tied up in the word Beatles ("unprecedented, world famous band"), just as there is in Porsche ("luxury sports car"). Smurrayinchester (talk) 22:31, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Comment. The existence of the singular form "Beatle" and derived terms like "Beatlemania" does strike me as a solid argument in favour of inclusion. While I agree that Wiktionary isn't an encylopedia, and should serve to complement Wikipedia, I also think there are cases where understanding X is critical to understanding the meaning and etymology of Y. Beatles could potentially be seen as serving to improve the understandability of entries like Beatle, Beatlesque, etc., thereby helping to make Wiktionary function as a self-contained resource. On the other hand, I understand the slippery slope argument: that the attestability of things like "Radioheadesque" and "Spice Girl" could open the door for entries on the relevant musical groups. Perhaps "Beatles" could be appendicized somewhere? Astral (talk) 06:19, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 08:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:Beatles


text:
mysticality

Noun

 * 1) The characteristic of being mystical; mysticism.

title: mysticality


text: mysticalities

title: mysticalities


text:
Talk:physical checkup

physical checkup
A physical checkup? (example sentence does not use the term defined) SemperBlotto (talk) 14:41, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Delete ; a checkup that is physic. --Æ&Œ (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, SOP. — Ungoliant (Falai) 16:12, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, NB no usable definition either. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:26, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Gone. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:29, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. bd2412 T 21:25, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:physical checkup


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Talk:alcohol dependence

alcohol dependence
dependence upon alcohol? SemperBlotto (talk) 06:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * To me it would seem like a set phrase that is specifically distinguished from alcohol abuse. On that basis, I'm leaning towards keep. -- Liliana • 08:38, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. We actually already have exactly this sense at [[dependence]]. —Ruakh TALK 12:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. as an example, gets over 28,000 hits. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete...goddammit why did that anon readd it? 50 Xylophone Players talk 13:20, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Gone. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:31, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. bd2412 T 02:54, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:alcohol dependence


text:
Talk:jemanden reinlegen

jemanden reinlegen
bad entry title ("jemanden" is equivalent to English "someone") -- Liliana • 08:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete and improve the definition of reinlegen to include the "pull (s.o.'s) leg", "trick" meaning. —Angr 10:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:33, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Gone. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. bd2412 T 03:10, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:jemanden reinlegen


text:
Talk:in der Zukunft

in der Zukunft
in + der + Zukunft. Clear case imho. -- Liliana • 08:44, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

 * The translation given is "down the road", which isn't the same as the English "in the future"/"into the future", because it can be used in a sort of pluperfect way (referring to an event that was in the future at some point in the past, but is now in the past itself). "They ran into trouble down the road" is grammatical, "They ran into trouble in the future" is not, unless you're talking about time travel. Does the German in der Zukunft work the same way? Smurrayinchester (talk) 09:42, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * No, it doesn't. in der Zukunft really just means "in (the) future". Someone is translating English idioms into German non-idioms, and then creating entries for the German non-idioms (see the entry above and the two entries below for more examples). Delete. —Angr 10:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, thanks. Delete. Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per native speaker above. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete. - -sche (discuss) 10:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

We have in the future. What's wrong with a German term which means exactly the same? I'm not opposed to deleting both, though. In fact, I'm in favor of it. --Hekaheka (talk) 10:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Gone. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:42, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:in der Zukunft


text:
Talk:ungeeignete Maßnahme

ungeeignete Maßnahme
SOP of ungeeignete "unsuitable" + Maßnahme "measure". —Angr 10:22, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete Not only is it SOP, it's also a poor translation of square peg in a round hole. Smurrayinchester (talk) 11:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete per nom. bd2412 T 03:11, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

 * For the record, delete. - -sche (discuss) 10:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Gone. —msh210℠ (talk) 21:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:ungeeignete Maßnahme


text:
Talk:dollhouse

dollhouse
Sum of parts. A house for dolls. Boxieman (talk) 00:22, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Usually we only consider a word a sum of parts when its parts are separated by spaces or hyphens. — Ungoliant (Falai) 00:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. It's a single word. By definition it can't be sum of parts--Dmol (talk) 01:03, 29 July 2012 (UTC).
 * Keep. We treat English words spelled solid as atoms that are inherently includable. Terms consisting of words joined by hyphens can be includable but not automatically. For example, this page could be called the request-for-deletion page. We would not include request-for-deletion. In contrast, file-card (relatively obscure meaning) is probably includable (though it hasn't been challenged).
 * Other languages may come to different conclusions about such compounds in Wiktionary. German, Finnish, and Hungarian, I believe, do not automatically include solid-spelled compounds. DCDuring TALK 01:24, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. No spaces isn't SoP; reader might be unable to parse it. Equinox ◑ 11:03, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's conventional to keep attestable single words. WT:CFI isn't particularly clear on the issue, the polar opposite in fact, but ah well. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. (Criteria for inclusion actually implies that a compound like this can be SOP, but common practice holds otherwise.) —Ruakh TALK 13:36, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * But for the record, I do not support Dan Polansky's comment below. Just because something contains no spaces, that doesn't mean it's a single word and should be included. (Even in English, but especially in other languages.) —Ruakh TALK 15:34, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

 * SNOW Keep: per others above Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 21:56, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete could still be a sum of parts and the meaning is fairly obvious.Lucifer (talk) 23:34, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
 * "doll" can be slang for "darling" or "woman" (see doll) so by your usual "logic" it could be a term for a brothel (a house for dolls, or women). You are not consistent. Equinox ◑ 20:48, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
 * So now I am not being inclusive enough?Lucifer (talk) 20:34, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 06:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep per no spaces. I wanted to refrain from commenting for the obviousness, but let this be a precedent case with as many editor signatures as possible. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep --WikiTiki89 (talk) 18:18, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep (I'm only voting to counteract Lucifer, although Dan's remark holds a lot of merit in my humble opinion.) --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:16, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep for being a clear and straightforward example of "a word". bd2412 T 03:05, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:dollhouse


text:
zA

Noun

 * 1) The SI unit symbol for the electric current measurement zeptoampere.

title: zA


text: Category:gmq-osw:List of related-to categories


text: Category:gmq-osw:All topics

title: Category:gmq-osw:All topics


text:
women's room

Etymology
Probably a generic variant of the earlier-attested.

Noun

 * : a public lavatory intended for women.
 * 1)  A waiting room in a railway station or other public building intended exclusively for women and usually including a separate women's lavatory.
 * 1)  A waiting room in a railway station or other public building intended exclusively for women and usually including a separate women's lavatory.

Synonyms

 * See Thesaurus:bathroom

Hypernyms

 * See Thesaurus:bathroom

title: women's room


text: balto

title: balto


text:
movie deal

Noun

 * 1) An agreement between a movie production studio and various other stakeholders for the production of a movie, usually based on some source material or other intellectual property created or owned by one or more of the stakeholders.
 * 2) An agreement between a movie production studio and an actor, director, or other person involved in the making of movies, by which that person agrees to participate in the production of a certain number of movies for the studio.
 * 1) An agreement between a movie production studio and an actor, director, or other person involved in the making of movies, by which that person agrees to participate in the production of a certain number of movies for the studio.
 * 1) An agreement between a movie production studio and an actor, director, or other person involved in the making of movies, by which that person agrees to participate in the production of a certain number of movies for the studio.
 * 1) An agreement between a movie production studio and an actor, director, or other person involved in the making of movies, by which that person agrees to participate in the production of a certain number of movies for the studio.

title: movie deal


text: movie deals

title: movie deals


text: baltajiem

title: baltajiem


text: baltajā

title: baltajā


text: baltie

title: baltie


text: baltajos

title: baltajos


text: baltajās

title: baltajās


text:
baltāks

Adjective

 * 1) whiter;

title: baltāks


text:
baltākais

Adjective

 * 1) the whiter;

title: baltākais


text:
baltāk

Adverb

 * 1) whiter;

title: baltāk


text:
visbaltākais

Adjective

 * 1) the whitest;

title: visbaltākais


text:
visbaltāk

Adjective

 * 1) the whitest;

title: visbaltāk


text: baltāku

title: baltāku


text: baltākam

title: baltākam


text: baltākām

title: baltākām


text: baltākiem

title: baltākiem


text: baltāki

title: baltāki


text: baltākus

title: baltākus


text: baltāka

title: baltāka


text: baltākā

title: baltākā


text: baltākas

title: baltākas


text: baltākās

title: baltākās


text: baltākai

title: baltākai


text: baltākos

title: baltākos


text: volatilisations

title: volatilisations


text: baltāko

title: baltāko


text: baltākajām

title: baltākajām


text:
User talk:Brad Watson, Miami

--Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: User talk:Brad Watson, Miami


text: baltākajam

title: baltākajam


text: baltākajiem

title: baltākajiem


text: baltākie

title: baltākie


text: baltākajai

title: baltākajai


text: baltākajā

title: baltākajā


text: baltākajos

title: baltākajos


text: baltākajās

title: baltākajās


text: visbaltāko

title: visbaltāko


text:
Israelian

Etymology
, in the historical sense in contrast to.

Adjective

 * 1)  Of or pertaining to the, its people, or their language.
 * 2)  Israeli.

Noun

 * 1)  A person from the.
 * 2)  An Israeli.

title: Israelian


text: visbaltākie

title: visbaltākie


text:
boom goes the dynamite

Etymology
Coined by Brian Collins, a college student from Ball State, during a collegiate basketball sportscast.

title: boom goes the dynamite


text: visbaltākos

title: visbaltākos


text: aha! moment

title: aha! moment


text: visbaltākajiem

title: visbaltākajiem


text: visbaltākajām

title: visbaltākajām


text: visbaltākajam

title: visbaltākajam


text: visbaltākā

title: visbaltākā


text: visbaltākās

title: visbaltākās


text: visbaltākajai

title: visbaltākajai


text: visbaltākajā

title: visbaltākajā


text: visbaltākajos

title: visbaltākajos


text: visbaltākajās

title: visbaltākajās


text: Template:fi-decl-nainen-kalleus

title: Template:fi-decl-nainen-kalleus


text:
lífræn efnafræði

Noun

 * 1) organic chemistry

title: lífræn efnafræði


text:
lífefnafræði

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) biochemistry

title: lífefnafræði


text:
platónskur

Adjective

 * 1) Platonic

title: platónskur


text:
nulde

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) zeroth

title: nulde


text: Template:fi-decl-nainen-katiska

title: Template:fi-decl-nainen-katiska


text:
délayant

Adjective

 * 1) That thins the blood

title: délayant


text:
écumage

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) skimming (removing scum from a liquid)

title: écumage


text:
emprésurage

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) renneting (adding rennet during cheesemaking)

title: emprésurage


text: Template:fi-decl-koira-valo

title: Template:fi-decl-koira-valo


text:
erehtyminen on inhimillistä

Proverb

 * 1) to err is human

title: erehtyminen on inhimillistä


text:
erehtyminen

Noun

 * 1) erring, often also to err
 * Erehtyminen on inhimillistä.
 * To err is human.
 * 1) mistakenness
 * 1) mistakenness

title: erehtyminen


text: aha moments

title: aha moments


text:
User:Pereru/Text01

1. Indoeiropiešu Valodu Saime
Jau tālā senatnē cilvēki novēroja, ka dažas valodas līdzinās cita citai, ir tuvas vārdu skanējuma un nozīmes ziņā, arī vārdu lietošanas (piemēram, vārdu saistīšanas) ziņā, bet citām valodām grūti atrast ko kopēju. Taču zinātnisku kritēriju valodu radniecības noteikšanai nebija, tie pakāpeniski izveidojās tikai jaunākajos laikos, sākot ar 16. gadsimtu. Vēl ilgi trūka ne tikai pilnīgu metožu, bet arī pietiekamu salīdzināmo datu par atsevišķām valodām. Kad 18. gadsimtā tuvāk iepazinās ar senindiešu literāro valodu — sanskritu, pavērās jaunas iespējas valodu salīdzināšanai. Angļu orientālists V. Džonss (Jones, 1746—1794), izpētījis sanskrita rokrakstus un salīdzinājis šo valodu ar grieķu (sengrieķu) un latinu valodu, konstatēja, ka tām ir tuva radniecība, un secināja, ka tas nevar būt nejauši: droši vien šīs valodas cēlušās no kāda kopīga avota, kas varbūt vairs neeksistē. Šo tēzi vēlāk pierādīja citu valodnieku pētījumi.

title: User:Pereru/Text01


text: Cáit

title: Cáit


text:
къаунэ

Noun

 * 1) muskmelon

title: къаунэ


text:
делэхъан

Etymology
From ; hence literally “hotel for crazy people”.

Noun

 * 1) insane asylum
 * 2) mental hospital
 * 3) sanitarium

title: делэхъан


text:
hatwok

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) To work hard; to do labor; to struggle

Usage notes
Although  is theoretically equivalent, it is usually only used when hat is being modified, as in the first sentence in the citation above, where  modifies hat.

Noun

 * 1) difficulty

title: hatwok


text:
Talk:делэхъан

Just like how hospital is for sick people, делэхъан is a place for crazy people, people with mental problems. Could this be a mental home or bedlam?
 * Psychiatric hospital? Bedlam is an old, probably offensive word. Mental home sounds a bit offensive to me too. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I would say insane asylum. Definitely don't use bedlam. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 20:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:делэхъан


text:
oltaim

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) forever

title: oltaim


text:
תת קרקעי

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Underground, subterranean: located below ground level.
 * חניונים תת קרקעיים — khanyoním tát-karka'iyím — underground parking structures

title: תת קרקעי


text:
зетын

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) oil
 * 2) olive

title: зетын


text:
Talk:inap

In response to the Malay section, is inap ever used on its own in a sentence? --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:34, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Most active sentence needs the verb to be suffixed with . Suffixless verbs are only used in a passive sentence by 1st or 2nd person or an imperative sentence. Amir Hamzah 2008 (talk) 00:13, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean prefixed. That makes sense. Thanks --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:16, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:inap


text:
бысылмэн

Noun

 * 1) Islam, Muslim

title: бысылмэн


text:
зэйтынчъыг

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) olive tree

title: зэйтынчъыг


text: шъуакӏо

title: шъуакӏо


text:
cárta

Etymology
Borrowed from, from , from.

Noun

 * 1) card flat, normally rectangular piece of stiff paper, plastic etc.

title: cárta


text: Category:English terms derived from Tz'utujil


text:
мэлахъо

Etymology
From ; hence literally “sheep herdsman”.

Noun

 * 1) shepherd, sheep herdsman

title: мэлахъо


text: Category:Terms derived from Tz'utujil

title: Category:Terms derived from Tz'utujil


text:
larim

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) To allow; to let

title: larim


text:
pankkipalvelu

Noun

 * 1) banking service service typically provided by a bank

title: pankkipalvelu


text:
klostu

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) near

title: klostu


text:
casóg

Etymology
From, modified to contain the suffix.

Noun

 * 1)  cassock
 * 2) jacket, coat
 * 3) carapace

title: casóg


text: Category:ga:Chickens

title: Category:ga:Chickens


text: lovertje

title: lovertje


text: vloertje

title: vloertje


text:
puolikymmentä

Numeral

 * 1) About five.

title: puolikymmentä


text:
ensel

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) angel; any supernatural creature in heaven according to Christian theology

title: ensel


text:
pakastevihannes

Noun

 * 1) frozen vegetable especially ones that are sold in bags

title: pakastevihannes


text:
bainat

Noun

 * 1) sword

title: bainat


text:
pakkoruotsi

Noun

 * 1)  The obligatory Swedish language taught in Finnish schools.

title: pakkoruotsi


text:
pallopeli

Noun

 * 1) ball game game played with a ball

Usage notes

 * An individual game or match of a ball game is rarely called . Terms, , are used instead:

title: pallopeli


text:
palkkatodistus

Noun

 * 1) salary certificate

title: palkkatodistus


text:
pallopinta

Noun

 * 1)  spherical surface
 * 2)  sphere regular three-dimensional object in which every cross-section is a circle, as opposed to a ball

title: pallopinta


text:
palosotilas

Noun

 * 1) fireman

title: palosotilas


text:
dzeltens

Etymology
Derived from an old adjective, found in old folk songs, and still in some dialects, but not in the standard language anymore (possibly due to homophony with ). It was the past participle of, from , from , from (whence also  and other color terms: compare , ).

Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 (probably a mistranscribed geltaynan; neut. pl.?), Proto-Slavic (< ) (🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬).

Adjective

 * 1) yellow having the color of, e.g., gold, or of the dandelion flower
 * 2) yellow the color of old leaves
 * 3) yellow without color, pale and unhealthy
 * 4) yellow having a slightly darker skin color
 * 1) yellow the color of old leaves
 * 2) yellow without color, pale and unhealthy
 * 3) yellow having a slightly darker skin color
 * 1) yellow without color, pale and unhealthy
 * 2) yellow having a slightly darker skin color
 * 1) yellow having a slightly darker skin color
 * 1) yellow having a slightly darker skin color

title: dzeltens


text:
palorakko

Noun

 * 1) A blister caused by burning.

title: palorakko


text:
palorakkula

Noun

 * 1) A blister caused by burning.

title: palorakkula


text:
paloviina

Etymology
,.

Noun

 * 1) spirit, liquor distilled alcoholic beverage

title: paloviina


text:
palopesäke

Noun

 * 1) fire pocket

title: palopesäke


text:
pankkilaina

Noun

 * 1) bank loan loan made by a bank

title: pankkilaina


text:
papinkaulus

Noun

 * 1) clerical collar

title: papinkaulus


text:
poznámka pod čarou

Noun

 * 1) footnote comment at the bottom of a printed page

title: poznámka pod čarou


text:
parivaljakko

Noun

 * 1) span pair of horses or other animals driven together
 * 2)  two friends that spend a lot of time together
 * 3)  double act, comedy duo

title: parivaljakko


text:
parijono

Noun

 * 1) double file, double line queue two items wide

title: parijono


text:
pasaasi

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) arcade

title: pasaasi


text:
patruunatehdas

Noun

 * 1) cartridge factory

title: patruunatehdas


text:
paukama

Etymology
According to LÄGLOS, from, which is borrowed from. Probably further derived with.

Noun

 * 1) sting bump on skin after having been stung

title: paukama


text:
pehku

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  straw chaff, such as used in animal shelters
 * 2)  sack bed

title: pehku


text: Category:lv:Yellows

title: Category:lv:Yellows


text:
peukalonjälki

Noun

 * 1) thumbprint

title: peukalonjälki


text:
roomboter

Etymology
From to distinguish the original butter from  and other fatty foods like.

Noun

 * 1) butter, made by churning the cream of milk

title: roomboter


text:
petankisti

Noun

 * 1) pétanque player

title: petankisti


text:
perunamuhennos

Noun

 * 1) mashed potatoes

title: perunamuhennos


text:
baltmaize

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) white bread bread baked with finely minced wheat flour

title: baltmaize


text:
pelastuskoira

Noun

 * 1) rescue dog

title: pelastuskoira


text:
pelastusalus

Noun

 * 1) rescue ship

title: pelastusalus


text:
pelastusretkikunta

Noun

 * 1) rescue party

title: pelastusretkikunta


text:
pelastustyö

Noun

 * 1) rescue work

title: pelastustyö


text:
pelastuspalvelu

Noun

 * 1) rescue service

title: pelastuspalvelu


text:
pelastushissi

Noun

 * 1) rescue elevator

title: pelastushissi


text:
pelastusnaru

Noun

 * 1) lifeline line for drowning or falling person

title: pelastusnaru


text:
pelastuslento

Noun

 * 1) rescue flight

title: pelastuslento


text:
pelastusoperaatio

Noun

 * 1) rescue operation

title: pelastusoperaatio


text:
pelastuspalkkio

Noun

 * 1) salvage fee

title: pelastuspalkkio


text:
pelastussukka

Noun

 * 1) rescue chute

title: pelastussukka


text:
pendelöinti

Noun

 * 1) commuting

title: pendelöinti


text:
rupjmaize

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) dark rye bread bread baked with wholemeal rye flour

title: rupjmaize


text:
penetranssi

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1)  penetrance

title: penetranssi


text:
pengerrys

Noun

 * 1) terracing

title: pengerrys


text:
perinnöllisyys

Noun

 * 1) heritability, heredity

title: perinnöllisyys


text:
Talk:operaatio

Is this derived from Latin operatio:? --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:17, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: Talk:operaatio


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/Meervoud van roomboter

Ik zou zelf veel liever "soorten roomboter" (of zoiets, "typen", "merken") zeggen dan "roomboters"; "roombotertje" staat me niet direct tegen, maar een zin waar ik het in zou kunnen gebruiken, heb ik nog niet bedacht. --129.125.102.126 21:18, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


text: émulsifiante

title: émulsifiante


text: émulsifiants

title: émulsifiants


text: émulsifiantes

title: émulsifiantes


text:
perunakellari

Noun

 * 1) potato cellar

title: perunakellari


text:
perunakuutio

Noun

 * 1) potato cube

title: perunakuutio


text:
perunakuokka

Noun

 * 1) potato hook

title: perunakuokka


text: encadrée

title: encadrée


text: encadrés

title: encadrés


text: encadrées

title: encadrées


text:
radaica

Etymology
From, from Latin. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) root

title: radaica


text:
perunasäkki

Noun

 * 1) potato sack
 * 2) sackful of potatoes

title: perunasäkki


text: ensemencée

title: ensemencée


text: ensemencés

title: ensemencés


text: ensemencées

title: ensemencées


text:
perunasalaatti

Noun

 * 1) potato salad

title: perunasalaatti


text:
perunatärkkelys

Noun

 * 1) potato starch

title: perunatärkkelys


text: filée

title: filée


text: filées

title: filées


text:
peuranliha

Noun

 * 1) deer, venison

title: peuranliha


text: peptic ulcers

title: peptic ulcers


text:
vãsilje

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) king

title: vãsilje


text: mécanisée

title: mécanisée


text: mécanisés

title: mécanisés


text: mécanisées

title: mécanisées


text:
peuranmetsästys

Noun

 * 1) deer hunting

title: peuranmetsästys


text: prédécoupée

title: prédécoupée


text: prédécoupés

title: prédécoupés


text: prédécoupées

title: prédécoupées


text:
peuranpyynti

Noun

 * 1) deer hunting

title: peuranpyynti


text:
bãsilãu

Etymology
Ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1) king

title: bãsilãu


text: rebutée

title: rebutée


text: rebutés

title: rebutés


text: rebutées

title: rebutées


text:
peurannahka

Noun

 * 1) deerskin

title: peurannahka


text: renseignée

title: renseignée


text: renseignées

title: renseignées


text:
periskooppi

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) periscope

title: periskooppi


text:
perhetuttu

Noun

 * 1) family friend

title: perhetuttu


text: perhetuttava

title: perhetuttava


text:
sagnfræði

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) history

title: sagnfræði


text:
perheyhtiö

Noun

 * 1) family business

title: perheyhtiö


text:
perheystävä

Noun

 * 1) family friend

title: perheystävä


text: balta maize

title: balta maize


text:
dýrafræði

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) zoology

title: dýrafræði


text:
gatorboard

Noun

 * 1) A rigid but lightweight sheet material composed of a layer foam between thin layers of wood pulp vaneer. Available in a variety of thicknesses from 1/8" - 1". Commonly used for mounting photographs and graphics.

title: gatorboard


text:
perhevalmennus

Noun

 * 1) parent training

title: perhevalmennus


text: Gatorboard

title: Gatorboard


text:
grasafræði

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) botany

title: grasafræði


text:
perhosentoukka

Noun

 * 1) caterpillar

title: perhosentoukka


title: Template:lv-decl-AdjN-indef-5


text:
perifyton

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬).

Noun

 * 1) periphyton

title: perifyton


text:
perikunta

Noun

 * 1) heirs collectively

title: perikunta


text:
Gatorfoam

Noun

 * 1) Gatorboard.

title: Gatorfoam


text:
personifiointi

Noun

 * 1) personification

title: personifiointi


text:
arãdãtsinã

Etymology
From, from. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) root

title: arãdãtsinã


text:
persoonapääte

Noun

 * 1)  personal suffix

title: persoonapääte


text:
pesuneste

Noun

 * 1) washing liquid

title: pesuneste


text: rupja maize

title: rupja maize


text:
peliitti

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Contains the suffix.

Noun

 * 1)  pelite

title: peliitti


text:
petiitti

Etymology
From, from.

Noun

 * 1)  brevier

title: petiitti


text:
personointi

Noun

 * 1) personification

title: personointi


text: Category:Tarantino numerals

title: Category:Tarantino numerals


text:
pianismi

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬). Contains the suffix.

Noun

 * 1)  pianism

title: pianismi


text: Category:Tarantino determiners

title: Category:Tarantino determiners


text:
pieteetti

Etymology
(see 🇨🇬), ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1) piety towards traditions

title: pieteetti


text:
pihkaniska

Noun

 * 1) orienteer

title: pihkaniska


text:
tümlük

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) wholeness

title: tümlük


text:
mutafacient

Adjective

 * 1) capable of inducing mutation (used mainly of intracellular agents)

Synonyms

 * mutagenic

title: mutafacient


text:
pihvikarja

Noun

 * 1) beef cattle

title: pihvikarja


text:
lihakarja

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) beef cattle

title: lihakarja


text:
pii-levä

Etymology
.

title: pii-levä


text:
tokluk

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) satiety

title: tokluk


text:
hagfræði

Noun

 * 1) economics

title: hagfræði


text:
User talk:Kephir/old

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Again, welcome! --BiblbroX дискашн 22:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

clusterfuck
Tnx for putting the translation template in it. It reminded me to try fill it up. --BiblbroX дискашн 22:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Mathematics
You wouldn't happen to be well versed in mathematics, would you? I've got a bunch of mathematical terms in English that I'm having trouble defining, and I was wondering if you're interested. Currently, I'm thinking about the terms listed at Regular grid. Thanks! --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:39, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Tried my best at regular grid. I am not sure if "tessellation" is a too technical term. Keφr (talk) 07:23, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * And now I notice we need parallelotope! Yes, your definitions are much better than mine. Well, I really hope that you keep adding mathematical terms, because we are very weak in that regard around here. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:09, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Is this so? From what I see, the core mathematical terms are already covered pretty well. Besides, mathematicians use few terms. They just generalise them a lot. In any case, drop me a list of words, and I may look through it. Keφr (talk) 06:25, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I have very limited mathematical experience, but I find that a lot of basic mathematical terms are lacking here. Some examples, if you want them (from various divisions of pre-university-level mathematics): curvilinear grid, system of equations, quad paper, SOHCAHTOA, θ-intercept, field axiom. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, some of these are pretty self-descriptive terms — there is nothing about system of equations which you cannot find defined at system and equation, actually — on the other hand, these might be considered fixed phrases with translations that are likewise so. Keφr (talk) 06:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'd say they're idiomatic. Take a look at the Pawley criteria of idiomaticity. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 01:58, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Translation fixing
I really like that script a lot! If it is bug-free enough, do you think it could be added to User:KassadBot's auto-formatting bot? It would be invaluable! 12:26, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Somewhat doubtful. First, the script is written in JavaScript — I do not know what KassadBot is written in, but I suspect something else entirely. Rewriting it in another language is nontrivial. Second, it's not really "bug-free enough" either — heuristics used by the script sometimes fail, resulting in template misapplication. Often it's enough to run the script and save the page, but just as often the script fails to parse a translation entry, or marks a qualifier as a transcription or vice versa, which is sometimes impossible to detect mechanically. So a human has to review the changes. But I encourage everyone to try it out (just click the install link and save the page). Keφr (talk) 12:39, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well then at least when you think it's ready, you should probably announce it on BP or GP. May I ask how it works, currently? Does it automatically run when the page is loaded, or does it wait for you to activate it? 12:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it is already quite usable, but I do not promise any stability. I updated the description page. I am unsure if either British Petrol or Green Party will want my script. Keφr (talk) 13:06, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you think you can make it so that it automatically tries to apply fixes whenever it can, and then presents the user with a 'save' (or 'diff') button in the top left corner, like the translation editor does? That way, you wouldn't have to click 'fix' in each entry, only to find out that there is nothing to fix. You'd just be notified whenever there is something to fix. Much easier. :) 13:21, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * It is doable. However, 1) The script currently restricts itself to a single section, and I am a bit afraid that running it on the whole page might mess things up; 2) I did not want it to put any unnecessary load on the servers — this kind of thing should be done once per page, if at all, so it's ridiculous to run it on every page load and 3) it is usually already relatively easy to spot where it needs to be run — just look for translation lists with entries without cross-edition links. Not perfect, but a good rule of thumb. By the way, my script tags generic "Chinese" entries as "zhx-zho" — is this acceptable? Keφr (talk) 14:44, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really, but all 'Chinese' translations need sorting into specific languages (usually Mandarin). So that part of the script isn't making things worse, it just isn't improving anything either. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe someone can modify to put entries marked this way into a category, so at least the problematic entries are found more easily. Keφr (talk) 09:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Any changes would need to apply to, , and , and because they appear multiple times on a page, any changes have to be considered very seriously before implementation. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)
 * As long as you're manually checking edits, I suppose the speed won't get too high, but do be aware of WT:RFFF if you intend to do any high-speed t-fixing. --Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 05:41, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

title: User talk:Kephir/old


text:
doktorluk

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) profession of a physician

title: doktorluk


text:
hekimlik

Noun

 * 1) profession of a physician

title: hekimlik


text:
tabiplik

Noun

 * 1) profession of a physician

title: tabiplik


text: mafics

title: mafics


text:
öğrencilik

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) state of being a student

title: öğrencilik


text:
talebelik

Noun

 * 1) state of being a student

title: talebelik


text:
talebe

Etymology
From, from , plural of.

Noun

 * 1)  student

title: talebe


text:
öğretmenlik

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) teaching, profession of a teacher

title: öğretmenlik


text: rupjmaizi

title: rupjmaizi


text: rupjmaizes

title: rupjmaizes


text: rupjmaizē

title: rupjmaizē


text: rupjmaizei

title: rupjmaizei


text: baltmaizes

title: baltmaizes


text: baltmaizei

title: baltmaizei


text:
dragon's wort

Etymology
A.

Noun

 * 1) A perennial herb, tarragon,.
 * , dragon arum, a flowering plant in the arum family.
 * 1)  (common bistort, a plant in the knotweed  family, once classified as  and.
 * , green dragon, a herbaceous perennial native to North America.

title: dragon's wort


text:
eğitmenlik

Noun

 * 1) profession of an instructor/educator

title: eğitmenlik


text:
User:Àlex

My main user page is on the Catalan language Wikipedia.

La meva pàgina d'usuari principal es troba a la Viquipèdia.

Mi página de usuario principal se encuentra en la Wikipedia en catalán.

title: User:Àlex


text:
User talk:Àlex

--Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 22:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: User talk:Àlex


text: Israelians

title: Israelians


text: Category:Jurchen numerals

title: Category:Jurchen numerals


text:
rupjš

Etymology
From an earlier adjective (yielding two parallel forms, a yo-stem form that became standard  and an o-stem form that yielded the dialectal variant ), from  (whence also the adjective, q.v.). The semantic evolution was probably “to pluck, to tear (e.g., wool, feathers)” > (adj.) “uneven, harsh” (skin, after removing wool, feathers) > “coarse, harsh.” Cognates include 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬,, , 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Adjective

 * 1)  coarse, rough with elements having a relatively large cross section
 * 2)  coarse having relatively large holes
 * 3)  rough having on its surface relatively wide, deep grooves
 * 4)  coarse, thick having a relatively large cross-section; made of thread, yarn having a relatively large cross-section
 * 5)  coarse, rough composed of elements having a relatively large cross-section
 * 6)  rough, harsh, unpolished; having bumps and dents on its surface
 * 7)  rough, not refined, not well designed, not completed, of low quality
 * 8)  coarse, hollow, low
 * 9)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 10)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 11)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  coarse, thick having a relatively large cross-section; made of thread, yarn having a relatively large cross-section
 * 2)  coarse, rough composed of elements having a relatively large cross-section
 * 3)  rough, harsh, unpolished; having bumps and dents on its surface
 * 4)  rough, not refined, not well designed, not completed, of low quality
 * 5)  coarse, hollow, low
 * 6)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 7)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 8)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  coarse, rough composed of elements having a relatively large cross-section
 * 2)  rough, harsh, unpolished; having bumps and dents on its surface
 * 3)  rough, not refined, not well designed, not completed, of low quality
 * 4)  coarse, hollow, low
 * 5)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 6)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 7)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  rough, not refined, not well designed, not completed, of low quality
 * 2)  coarse, hollow, low
 * 3)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 4)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 5)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  coarse, hollow, low
 * 2)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 3)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 4)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  rude, offensive, tactless, tough, violent; expressing such features
 * 2)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 3)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 2)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 2)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  gross, big which deviates strongly from the truth, from accepted norms, etc.
 * 2)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive
 * 1)  harsh, tough physical, heavy and repetitive

title: rupjš


text: Category:juc:List of related-to categories


text: Category:juc:All topics

title: Category:juc:All topics


text: Category:Khitan numerals

title: Category:Khitan numerals


text:
rupjais

Adjective

 * 1) the coarse, harsh;

title: rupjais


text: rupja

title: rupja


text: Category:wym:Mathematics

title: Category:wym:Mathematics


text:
umyć

Etymology
, from. .

Verb

 * 1)  to wash, to clean
 * 2)  to wash oneself

title: umyć


text: baltmaizi

title: baltmaizi


text: baltmaizē

title: baltmaizē


text:
User talk:46.117.30.188

Hebrew translations
Hi,

The format of your translations is incorrect, e.g. in sense of humour it should be * Hebrew: חוש הומור, not * Hebrew: (khush humor) חוש הומור. You need to write the Roman transliteration (khush humor) in the transliteration box provided. --Anatoli (обсудить) 23:49, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

title: User talk:46.117.30.188


text:
antedatable

Adjective

 * 1) Capable of being antedated.

title: antedatable


text:
gothiness

Noun

 * 1)  The quality of being gothy.

title: gothiness


text:
simplity

Noun

 * 1)  simplicity

title: simplity


text:
calidity

Etymology
Borrowed from, whence the 🇨🇬. Compare.

Noun

 * 1)  Heat.

title: calidity


text: rupju maizi

title: rupju maizi


text: espiers

title: espiers


text: rupjas maizes

title: rupjas maizes


text: rupjai maizei

title: rupjai maizei


text: rupjā maizē

title: rupjā maizē


text: baltu maizi

title: baltu maizi


text: baltas maizes

title: baltas maizes


text: baltā maizē

title: baltā maizē


text: baltai maizei

title: baltai maizei


text:
rudzu maize

Noun

 * 1) rye bread

title: rudzu maize


text:
mandibulated

Adjective

 * 1) Provided with mandibles adapted for biting; mandibulate.

title: mandibulated


text:
gainage

Etymology
From,. See.

Noun

 * 1)  The horses, oxen, ploughs, wains or wagons and implements for carrying on tillage.
 * 2) The profit made by tillage; also, the land itself

Etymology
From. See.

Noun

 * 1) sheathing, sleeving

title: gainage


text:
babaçuê

Noun

 * 1) an Afro-Brazilian religion practised in Pará and Maranhão

title: babaçuê


text: tillages

title: tillages


text:
thwite

Etymology
From, from , from. See, and compare ,.

Verb

 * 1)  To cut or clip with a knife; to whittle.

title: thwite


text: thwited

title: thwited


text: thwites

title: thwites


text: thwiting

title: thwiting


text:
breastplough

Noun

 * 1) A kind of plough, worked by handles near the worker's breast, and in some types by pushing with the breast/chest, by which ploughing can be done by hand (without a draft animal), albeit more slowly and difficultly, or by which turf (peat) can be cut for fuel; the type commonly used in preindustrial Britain is analogous to a spade with a large T-shaped handle gripped with both hands.

title: breastplough


text: breastploughs

title: breastploughs


text:
colaborer

Noun

 * 1) Someone who labors with another; a partner in labor (manual work).

title: colaborer


text: colaborers

title: colaborers