text:
urologically

Adverb

 * 1) In a urologic manner; with respect to urology

title: urologically


text:
vectoriellement

Etymology
From.

Adverb

 * 1) vectorially

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: vectoriellement


text: lydpottene

title: lydpottene


text:
Talk:H.P.L.A.

Deletion debate
Not dictionary material. Needs cleanup if OK. SemperBlotto (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * WT:FICTION seems to apply. Probably not CFI meeting if it's only used by one author in one book. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:42, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There's an additional problem in that it's attributed to Stanisław Lem, who was a Polish author and wrote in Polish. This term therefore appears in translations of his works, and so may not even qualify under WT:FICTION. --EncycloPetey (talk) 23:40, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * For the purposes of WT:FICTION, whether or not a book is a translation should be irrelevant.--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, that's not what I meant. I worded the second part of my comment badly and hastily, as I was passing on to write another comment in another edit window.  WT:FICTION allows that "terms which have three citations in separate worksmay be included only in appendices", and also says "a series of books, films, or television episodes by the same authorshall be considered a single work."  So, if support for this term comes only from the short story collection The Cyberiad, then we're talking about a single work and this term would therefore not even be allowed in an Appendix. --EncycloPetey (talk) 00:53, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 17:29, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:H.P.L.A.


text: vindolines

title: vindolines


text: kawain

title: kawain


text: flavokawain

title: flavokawain


text: flavokawains

title: flavokawains


text:
flavokavain

Noun

 * 1)  Any of a class of chalconoids found in the kava plant.

title: flavokavain


text: flavokavains

title: flavokavains


text:
lyddempar

Noun

 * 1) a silencer (used to reduce the sound of a gun when it is fired)
 * 2) a silencer (UK) or muffler (US) (part of an exhaust system)

Synonyms

 * (part of an exhaust system)

title: lyddempar


text: Redwood

title: Redwood


text: lyddemparen

title: lyddemparen


text: lyddemparar

title: lyddemparar


text:
Talk:look and feel

Deletion discussion
Rfd-sense for the adjective. Obviously just attributive use of the noun. -- Liliana • 19:57, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Found no hits for comparative, superlative nor usage with copula. — Ungoliant (Falai) 12:19, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per Ungoliant. DCDuring TALK 13:38, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Outcome: RFD deleted per consensus. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:08, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

RFC discussion: May 2013–June 2014
"Having the combination of visual design and behaviour of a user interface." The usex makes it even less clear what that means... - -sche (discuss) 17:15, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Resolved: the line "Having the [...]" was either cleaned up or possibly RFD-failed and removed at some point, as it is no longer to be found in the entry. - -sche (discuss) 01:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:look and feel


text: lyddemparane

title: lyddemparane


text:
Talk:I need you

Question about a phrasebook entry I'd like to create - I need you
(This discussion was originally posted at WT:RFD.) Equinox ◑ 14:42, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

We have phrasebook entries I love you, I like you, I miss you, which seem to be safe.

Would people rfd a page I need you if I create it? If yes, then why? Just checking the moods before I waste my time adding a bunch of translations. We have too many "I need ..." entries, which upset some editors but not this one, which I think is important. I don't think we need I want you but if it's created by someone and kept, I'll add translations. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 03:32, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Which sense do you mean? If your boss at work says "Bob, I need you", that's rather different from a clingy lover saying it. There may be other senses of the sentence (but not of the individual words). Equinox ◑ 07:56, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * None of the uses I can think of belong in a phrasebook that meets my idea of what a phrasebook should be. But that's not worth very much. —msh210℠ (talk) 19:13, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Closing. This seems to be a simulated RFD on I need you, a redlinked entry not yet created; no particular definition was discussed. No one posted a boldfaced delete about I need you, so the entry can be created, and if someone does not like it, they can send it to RFD again. Place of archival: probably Talk:I need you. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:19, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:I need you


text:
Talk:absolve from

Deletion discussion
Sum of parts. (Needs cleanup of strange section if OK) SemperBlotto (talk) 07:38, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

keep: But in here that could be a Phrasal Verb. (Alborzagros (talk) 08:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC))
 * I'm only familiar with absolve of, but whichever preposition you use, I think we can cover it at absolve, to which both of these entries can be redirected. I don't understand why both absolve from and absolve of are marked "US". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also Alborzagros, what is your reason for wanting to keep this? Mglovesfun (talk) 11:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. —msh210℠ (talk) 05:51, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No different than free from or acquit from. bd2412 T 21:42, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:absolve from


text:
Talk:building boom

Deletion discussion
A boom with respect to building. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Yet, has entries in several dictionaries. Morgengave (talk) 13:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. has the relevant sense: “A period of prosperity or high market activity.” Perhaps the definition could be refined to reflect more clearly its usage in expressions like building boom, fishing boom, logging boom, Internet boom, etc.. — Ungoliant (Falai) 13:44, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete per nom, clear SoP. bd2412 T 14:12, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Strong delete. There are all kinds of booms. Equinox ◑ 16:15, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete BTW, it is not to be found in a reference at . What dictionaries have it, so I know not to recommend them to anyone? DCDuring TALK 16:47, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed, several dictionaries? Name a few, please. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Deleted for lack of evidence of several dictionaries having entries. bd2412 T 03:53, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:building boom


text:
Talk:key witness

Deletion discussion
Isn't this just key + witness? Chuck Entz (talk) 18:51, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. As an attorney, I can tell you that there is no special legal significance afforded to the term "key" with respect to a witness or to evidence. A witness whose testimony is so vital that a legally sufficient case can not be made without them is a material witness, and in some cases designation as a material witness permits the court to hold that witness in custody so as to compel their testimony. bd2412 T 19:56, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Reaction. Hi BD2412. Thanks for your clarification. These two entries were created by me and I wasn't 100% sure whether this is correct or not. So I'm glad to see that this has now been checked by an attorney. The reason to create this article actually is this entry (created by me as well). The German word "Hauptzeuge" is not a legal term in German law but a common term used in media reports on court cases. Hence the word has been tagged as "Rechtssprache" (used in legal language context but not necessarily a legal term). Looking for a translation of the term into English I found the following translations: key witness, prime witness, principal witness, chief witness for the crown. Both "key witness" and "principal witness" were tagged with the word "law". I decided to use these two terms because I thought that the Category:en:Law isn't solely restricted to legal terms but comprises the vast field of law.
 * While it turns out now that material witness is the correct legal term in US-American law it remains unclear to me what kind of term key witness actually is.
 * In Europe this term is widely used in legal context. There are other terms with the same or nearly the same meaning as well. I looked up the translations of "Hauptzeuge" in translations from the European Parlament and they are using terms like these here: main witness, chief witness, central witness, key witness and so on.
 * Having entered the term "Hauptzeuge" into this program for translated quotes from various text sources I found the term "key witness" several times on the website "europarl.europa.eu".
 * Furthermore, the term "key witness" is used in the UK in official documents as this statement from the Kent Police clearly shows: 8.4. It should be noted that only very basic statements should fall within this bracket. Detailed key witness statements are not appropriate to be taken using this method..
 * Having said that, however, I do agree that the articles should be deleted if it turns out that these two entries are incorrect terms or inappropriate (SOP) for the goals of this dictionary.--91.61.98.16 17:14, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * In that case, it may be worth keeping this entry as a literal target for translations. Material witness does not mean quite the same thing, as it only refers to a witness in a criminal case whose testimony is necessary to establish the crime. bd2412 T 20:13, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete DCDuring TALK 20:01, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, straightforward, I have no other comments. 20:43, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 16:31, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:key witness


text:
algebraization

Noun

 * 1)  conversion to algebraic form

Translations

 * Portuguese: algebrização

title: algebraization


text:
ontynan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to open, to loose, to free
 * 2) * late 9th century, King Alfred's translation of Saint Augustine's Soliloquies
 * "ang"

- Þū ūs clypast tō ūrunm weġe, and ūs ġelēdest tō þǣre dura and ūs ðā untȳnst,...

 * 1) * late 9th century, King Alfred's translation of Saint Augustine's Soliloquies
 * "ang"

- ...ac untīn mē þīne dura...

 * 1) * 10th century,, Elene, 1228–1231
 * "ang"

- ...Sie þara manna gehwam behliden helle duru, heofones ontyned, ece geopenad engla rice, dream unhwilen...

 * 1) to disclose, reveal, display

title: ontynan


text: bioprosthetics

title: bioprosthetics


text:
no soap

Etymology
The phrase appears, with no clear meaning, in a 1755 nonsense prose poem, "The Grand Panjandrum". In the U.S., took on the meaning of money (see OED), and so  was a denial of money, say in response to a request for some.

Phrase

 * 1)  It is (or was) a failure.

title: no soap


text: behliden

title: behliden


text: ᠤᠤ

title: ᠤᠤ


text:
copredication

Noun

 * 1)  The act of making two (sometimes incompatible) things the subject/predicate of a proposition.

title: copredication


text:
behlidan

Etymology
From. The latter is related to.

Verb

 * 1) to close, to cover or cover over

Usage notes
Frequently appears in reference to doors.

title: behlidan


text:
decorrelator

Noun

 * 1) A device or system that produces decorrelation

title: decorrelator


text: decorrelators

title: decorrelators


text:
kohero

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) coherence
 * 2)  cohesion

title: kohero


text: graphynes

title: graphynes


text:
graphdiyne

Noun

 * 1)  A form of graphyne in which each benzene ring is connected to each of six others by a diacetylene bridge

title: graphdiyne


text:
koheri

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Verb

 * 1)  to cohere

title: koheri


text:
graphtriyne

Noun

 * 1)  A form of graphyne in which each benzene ring is connected to each of six others by a triacetylene bridge

title: graphtriyne


text:
kohera

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) coherent, cohesive

title: kohera


text: koheraj

title: koheraj


text:
triacetylene

Noun

 * 1)  Any polyyne containing three linked acetylene residues

title: triacetylene


text: koheran

title: koheran


text: koherajn

title: koherajn


text: koheron

title: koheron


text: Bööm

title: Bööm


text:
haploblock

Noun

 * 1) A block of haplotypes that are rearranged during meiosis

title: haploblock


text: Bäum

title: Bäum


text:
kohereco

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) coherence
 * 2)  cohesion

title: kohereco


text: koherecon

title: koherecon


text: User:Dpleibovitz

title: User:Dpleibovitz


text:
memristic

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to, or characteristic of a memristor

title: memristic


text:
nekohera

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) incoherent

title: nekohera


text: nekoheraj

title: nekoheraj


text: nekoheran

title: nekoheran


text: nekoherajn

title: nekoherajn


text:
galacto-

Etymology
, from stem  of

Prefix

 * 1) ; milk-related.

Etymology
, from stem  of

Translations

 * Polish: galakto-

title: galacto-


text:
nanoweb

Noun

 * 1) A nanoscale web, especially a molecular filter of this form

title: nanoweb


text:
nonmetricity

Noun

 * 1) The condition of being nonmetric.

title: nonmetricity


text:
piperidinium

Noun

 * 1)  A cation formed by the protonation of piperidine.

title: piperidinium


text:
polyhedrality

Noun

 * 1) The condition of being polyhedral

title: polyhedrality


text:
pseudomomentum

Noun

 * 1)  The property of a wave, analogous to momentum, that determines the force exerted by the wave when it interacts with matter

title: pseudomomentum


text:
παράγκα

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) shack, shanty

title: παράγκα


text: concejalas

title: concejalas


text:
taxímetro

Noun

 * 1) taximeter a device in a taxicab that calculates the fare

Etymology
. See 🇨🇬 for more information.

Noun

 * 1) taximeter
 * 2)  taxi

title: taxímetro


text: taxímetros

title: taxímetros


text:
quasicondensation

Noun

 * 1)  The formation of a quasicondensate

title: quasicondensation


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/fadōną

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to graze; feed oneself

Descendants

 * (in past part )
 * (in past part )
 * (in past part )
 * (in past part )
 * (in past part )

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/fadōną


title: catch-22s


title: Catch-22s


text:
Citations:skewon

 * 2013 Wei-Tou Ni, "Skewon field and cosmic wave propagation" arXiv
 * Hehl, Obukhov and Rubilar have started from charge-flux formalism to study electromagnetism, discovered the antisymmetric part (Sk){chi}ijkl (15 degrees of freedom) of {chi}ijkl under the interchange of index pairs ij and kl worthy investigation, and called it skewon field. In this paper, we study the propagation of the Hehl-Obukhov-Rubilar skewon field in weak gravity field/dilute matter or with weak violation of the Einstein Equivalence Principle (EEP), and further classify it into Type I and Type II skewons.

title: Citations:skewon


text:
supersquare

Noun

 * 1)  The equivalent of a Latin square in greater than two dimensions

title: supersquare


text: supersquares

title: supersquares


text:
synchrophasor

Noun

 * 1) A phasor measurement unit

title: synchrophasor


text: 𥃞

title: 𥃞


text:
thermofield

Noun

 * 1)  The quantum mechanical field associated with thermal quantum field theory

title: thermofield


text:
𠁀

Han character

 * 1) existence
 * 2) world
 * 3) generation
 * 4) era

title: 𠁀


text:
לעבעדיק

Etymology
From, from. Equivalent to.

Adjective

 * 1) alive
 * 2) lively

title: לעבעדיק


text:
dzióbek

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) spout
 * 2) pout, duckface
 * 1) pout, duckface
 * 1) pout, duckface

title: dzióbek


text:
endolith

Noun

 * 1)  An organism (generally a small or micro-organism) living inside rocks.

title: endolith


text:
Kamelle

Etymology
Ripuarian, a corruption of.

Noun

 * 1)  candy, sweets (usually those given away during carnival parades)

Usage notes
Although originally a plural form, the word is most often used as a feminine singular in standard German.

title: Kamelle


text: lydpotterne

title: lydpotterne


text:
Talk:discussion room

discussion room
Obvious SoP -- Liliana • 06:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Can discussion room or chat room be attested before the use of room on its own in this sense? --WikiTiki89 08:19, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:58, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Good question. I wouldn't think so, but that's just a guess. DAVilla 01:17, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Abstain. I wouldn't vote delete until my question is investigated. --WikiTiki89 08:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Discussion room? Oh I WONDER what that’s FOR HMMMMMMMMMMM --Æ&Œ (talk) 00:38, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. The definition "A forum or message board" is incomplete, though; it should be "An Internet forum or message board" or the like. If this is a semantic sum of parts ("SOP"), then with respect to what sense of "room"? By looking at, I see the term sometimes used to rooms people can physically occupy; how common is that usage? Does the phrase tend to pick the Internet context in preference over a physical face-to-face context? --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:28, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You are looking for sense 12 of room, (Internet, countable) A forum or chat room. -- Liliana • 05:35, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

No clear consensus for deletion. bd2412 T 15:50, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:discussion room


text:
Talk:fa bolle

fa bolle
I'm pretty sure this is +. It's SoP. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, currently neither of those have Neapolitan entries. --WikiTiki89 18:39, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. --Æ&Œ (talk) 15:55, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * fa should be written fa' tha means to do or make as you correctly said. Then also the entry fa should be dismissed. Anyway the entry bolle (to boil) I can write it right now Aufels (talk) 20:16, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd say this is the same as French . Faire can be followed by a lot of infinitives (possibly every infinitive!) by the meaning is always transparent because it's a standard meaning of . Mglovesfun (talk) 11:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 15:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:fa bolle


text:
Talk:vaginal sex

vaginal sex
Looks pretty obvious, doesn’t it? --Æ&Œ (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

 * I personally think it's a dumb entry. However, note that (according to us) it's only vaginal sex if the penis is inserted, and not (say) a dildo, or the fist; if true, that might make it less than SoP. Compare anal sex, where anything can be inserted into the anus, not just a penis. Equinox ◑ 21:20, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Looks like an important point to me. DAVilla 06:54, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I seriously doubt anyone differentiates vaginal sex and anal sex that way. Some people may say a penis has to be inserted in both cases in order for the definition to be met, while others may say that the insertion of other objects (dildo, fist, light bulb, zucchini, gerbil) will also fit the definition, but I cannot believe anyone applies the penis-only rule to the definition of "vaginal sex" but not to the definition of "anal sex". —Angr 19:41, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Re entry: I think widening the def is the solution. Re Angr: No. Just no. We gerbils have rights too. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Fine, I believe you. No need to be so graphic, all of you. DAVilla 16:31, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Closed. no consensus to delete. bd2412 T 14:42, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:vaginal sex


text:
Talk:Kelvin scales

Kelvin scales
There is only 1 Kelvin scale. All usages are things like "Celsius and Kelvin scales". DTLHS (talk) 22:33, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

 * I'll take your word for it. Delete unless anyone wants to formally RFV. DAVilla 16:49, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Found this usage: "Also to keep in mind is that the Kelvin scales on cameras will not and do not match the real world measurements". Should we add a sense to "Kelvin scale" and mark it as uncountable and countable? --Hekaheka (talk) 07:45, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The source of the quote appears to be here: http://www.whibalhost.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8926 . It strikes me as a very unusual usage - I don't know if that matters? Furius (talk) 07:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It is countable, but the plural form is not attested. DAVilla 05:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Another interesting quote: "The Celsius scales have their zeros at 0-01 ° below the triple point of water, and the Kelvin scales have their zeros at the absolute zero". I understand this so that there are several alternative principles for measuring temperature and these methods lead to slightly different scales, i.e. one Kelvin scale is a theoretical ideal, which may be emulated by various measurement methods. --Hekaheka (talk) 09:57, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * For further consideration: why do we have Kelvin scale in the first place? It is nothing but a scale using Kelvin as unit. We don't have Fahrenheit scale, millimeter scale or whatever. --Hekaheka (talk) 03:10, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Right. Though Kelvin doesn't commonly appear in many phrases, it does appear in about the same sense elsewhere, eg, as degrees Kelvin and a million Kelvin. It also appears in helpful explanatory phrases such as Kelvin temperature scale, thus indicating that Kelvin scale is not a set phrase.
 * If Kelvin scale is to be kept, then we must keep Kelvin scales, based on a mere three cites.
 * OTOH, I don't see much reason to keep Kelvin scale. DCDuring TALK 13:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

No consensus to delete (although a separate process may need to be opened for Kelvin scale. bd2412 T 16:39, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:Kelvin scales


text:
Category talk:Old Korean appendices

Deletion of Middle/Old Korean, Silla, Goguryeo and Baekje
As per Requests_for_deletion, I would like to repeat my call to delete all extinct/reconstructed words from the Korean Peninsula, including Silla, Goguryeo and Baekje. No evidence has been presented for the existence of those words and User:DolphinL has not responded to my inquiry. The deletion would be all words under the following categories:

 * Category:Middle_Korean_language
 * Category:Old_Korean_language
 * Category:Silla_Old_Korean (this is actually a subcategory of Old Korean)
 * Category:Baekje_language
 * Category:Goguryeo_language

As cool as these entries are, reconstructed terms qualify only for inclusion in appendices (CFI) and for extinct terms, "one use in a contemporaneous source is the minimum, or one mention is adequate subject to" certain requirements (CFI). All of these terms fail to qualify for inclusion. --BB12 (talk) 22:05, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * A closer look will show that Category:Middle_Korean_language was created- in its entirety- by (who should know a thing or two about CFI), and not by . There are also IPs who created many Old Korean entries,  and  are the first ones I ran into, though there may be others- though I suppose they might just have been  before he/she had a Wiktionary account. There's even at least one Goguryeo entry in there created by . This may require a more complicated approach than the previous rfd Chuck Entz (talk) 02:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Thank you for checking. We already know that Joseon814 is not reliable. I have left a note on Visviva's page. These are extinct words without any citation and are therefore subject to deletion if Visviva or someone else does not provide a citation for each. --BB12 (talk) 04:21, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the alert. Here's my three cents:
 * Middle Korean: Middle Korean is reasonably well-attested, though like most "Middle" languages it suffers from massive ambiguity in terms of how it is defined, and the entries are a pain in the butt to write & cite due to inconsistent orthography &c. The extant 15th-century hangul texts are definitely Middle Korean, and most authorities would extend that definition either backwards to include the idu and gugyeol texts of the Goryeo period, or forward to some later point in the Joseon dynasty, or both (Korean Wikipedia considers OKM to cover the 10th through 16th centuries, which jibes with my general impression of the consensus).
 * By way of example, for 귀믿터리, two citations (from the same c. 1481 text) are presented here; however, in order to transfer them to Wiktionary, I would need to a) install that accursed PUA font that Naver et al. use for precomposed Middle Korean glyphs, and b) painfully reconstruct those syllabic blocks in the Wiktionary-approved Unicode-compliant fashion. It looks as if I went through this process once or twice (see ᄆᆞ니다), but then decided the hell with it.  I don't expect I'll be revisiting that decision.
 * I would not fault Wiktionary for deciding it didn't want to be bothered with having OKM entries, or Middle English or Middle French entries for that matter -- but I think they do (or at least can) meet CFI.
 * Old Korean / Sillan: There are some extant texts in Sillan, including inscriptions and some quoted passages in the old chronicles. Many of the hyangga poems are also believed to date from the Silla period (although the texts in which they occur are of slightly more recent vintage), and are therefore used as source material for the study of Old Korean.  The European analogy that comes to mind is Gaulish: extremely spotty but attestable.
 * IMO these OKO entries can meet CFI as well. On the other hand, AFAIK no Sillan entries have actually been properly cited, and I'm not likely to take up that challenge myself, so it probably wouldn't harm the project terribly if they were all deleted.
 * Baekje / Goguryeo: There are no extant texts in these languages, although individual words are occasionally glossed in Chinese chronicles or readily deducible from proper names. The European analogy that comes to mind is Pictish, and I think that these categories (if retained at all) should probably be as empty as that one.  The only reason Wiktionary has these entries now is that moving them to their actual quasi-recorded form seemed, at the time, like a reasonable compromise with the user who had been dumping putative hangul (!!) entries in these languages (and Sillan) into Wiktionary; see this very brief discussion from 2008.  But IMO the project would be better off without any Baekje or Goguryeo entries at all. -- Visviva (talk) 05:33, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

 * Added: Balhae_Old_Korean should also die a swift and painless death. -- Visviva (talk) 05:38, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

 * If you have a dictionary which contains some of these, name it in the references section of the entries, and they're sufficiently verified without you having to write out any complex characters — since extinct languages are allowed in with only one use or mention / reference work. :)
 * And if you can link to citations of Middle Korean words, I would consider it rather unconstructive if someone RFVed the entries to demand that you actually compose the gylphs. When people link to Google Books citations of words on RFV, I often pass the terms without making them type up the citations. - -sche (discuss) 06:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * "although individual words are occasionally glossed in Chinese chronicles". I thought we now allowed mentions in extinct languages? So such mentions would be enough. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:05, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * As long as the entries provide the source, that is not a problem. There is, of course, the additional issue that since (I assume) only Chinese characters are used the actual pronunciations cannot be very precisely determined. --BB12 (talk) 21:31, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

As 10 months have passed and no citations have been provided for any of these languages, I would like to request all entries in all of these languages be deleted. --BB12 (talk) 04:10, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

 * I'll put them in appendices in the next day or two and then request deletion again :) --BB12 (talk) 04:16, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

- I have moved all the Middle Korean entries to Category:Middle Korean appendices, and deleted three entries that are just sections of pages that have other information: 어른, 누, 쇼. Could an administrator please delete the following pages? I have all of them to the appendix as well.
 * ᄒᆞᆫᄢᅴ, 구레, 구룸, 굴에, 귀믿터리, ᄆᆞ니다, 갈아디다, 고ᄋᆞ다, 괴오다, 기드리다

--BB12 (talk) 08:19, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

--BB12 (talk) 19:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Request for Category:Balhae_Old_Korean words to be deleted: 基下, 太妃, 老王, 聖王
 * Request for Category:Silla_Old_Korean words to be deleted: 居西干, 麻立干. I deleted the Old Korean sections for 干, 忽 and 薩 myself.
 * All of these terms can be found at Category:Old Korean appendices.

--BB12 (talk) 06:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Request for deletion of words in Category:Baekje_parts_of_speech: 久知下, 吉支, 固麻, 夫里, 扶蘇, 斯麻, 於羅瑕, 於陸, 珍惡, 鞬吉支

 * All done. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:02, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Struck as resolved. bd2412 T 16:04, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Category talk:Old Korean appendices


text:
Talk:dependency injection

dependency injection
An injection (sense #6) of dependency (and also the plural dependency injections. Furius (talk) 00:36, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 07:14, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep. I don't think it is obvious from the parts of the term to which technique it refers. Not that the current Wiktionary definition explains the technique; the current 1st sentence in Wikipedia seems much better. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This work seems to explain it as sum of its parts. The pieces are hard to understand if one is not familiar with the very specific context. It is not a dictionary's job to explain something that in the opinion of the authors seems to take a chapter of a book to explain. If it doesn't fit in one or two lines, a "full definition" belongs somewhere else. DCDuring TALK 20:09, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay, so have you understood the explanation given in the book? If so, can you rephrase and give a clear and succinct summary of what dependency injection is and from what it is counterdistinguished? --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:43, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Spurious argument. You would have it that any concept your opponent on this page can't explain should be included. Obviously the author of the book that provides a usage context has explained it in an SoP fashion in that context. DCDuring TALK 15:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 16:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:dependency injection


text:
Talk:place of decimals

place of decimals
Next up in the parade of sums‐of‐parts. --Æ&Œ (talk) 14:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Do people say this? DCDuring TALK 16:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If they once did, this might be entry-worthy. DCDuring TALK 16:53, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. But RFV. --WikiTiki89 19:05, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is much, much more common in the plural (See Google book search). But the definition is just plain wrong. It means the number of decimal places used in a particular expression. i.e. pi: is 3.1 to 2 places of decimals, but 3.1415926 to 8 places of decimals. 22:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
 * In that case, the definition is not wrong (because decimal places are used that way too), but just not specific enough. I still think it should be RFV'd first. --WikiTiki89 06:26, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes - in my usage: π το the fourth decimal place = 3.1416, is synonymous with π το four decimal places = 3.1416, which is synonymous with π το four places of decimals = 3.1416 — Saltmarshαπάντηση 06:41, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That is common usage. See:
 * 1980, Michael H. Stone, The Borderline Syndromes: Constitution, Personality, and Adaptation, page 101:
 * Find the positive root of the equation ex – 3x = 0, correct to 3 places of decimals.
 * 1995, G. N. Watson, A Treatise on the Theory of Bessel Functions, page 655:
 * In consequence of the need of Tables of Jn (x) with fairly large values of n and x for Astronomical purposes, Hansen constructed a Table of J0 (x) and Ji (x) to six places of decimals with a range from x = 0 to x = 10.0 with interval 0.1.
 * 2005, Veerarajan & Ramachandran, Numerical Methods: With Programs In C, page 3-54:
 * Use Newton Raphson method to find the values of (i) VT2 and (ii) —, correct to four places of decimals.
 * 2006, Bansi Lal, Topics in Integral Calculus, page 272:
 * In the application of Simpson's rule, when the number of places of decimals to which the answer is required, is not mentioned, it is usual to calculate the answer correct to three places of decimals.
 * bd2412 T 15:17, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

 * How would we use the label template to convey that this term is now used almost entirely in relatively technical works in the context of computation (not "pure" mathematics, BTW)? The current label "arithmetic" is, at best, a topical categorization. Ideally, we would get appropriate categorization, but we should at least get a good presentation. If necessary, we could bypass . DCDuring TALK  16:15, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I provided references to technical works, but I believe it can be found in some slightly more mundane works. For example:
 * 2001, Keith Pledger, Edexcel GCSE Mathematics, page 103:
 * To round a decimal correct to one place of decimals (1 d.p.) you look at the second place of decimals.
 * 1841, Charles Hutton, Thomas Stephens Davies, A Course of Mathematics in Two Volumes, Composed for the Use of the Royal Military Academy, page 56:
 * It will always be better to calculate one place of decimals more than are required by the question.
 * Of course, the term is not to be found in works of more general character than that, but "mathematics" alone should do. bd2412 T 19:09, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. Remaining issues are matters for discussion on the entry's talk page. bd2412 T 16:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:place of decimals


text:
Talk:I need a condom

I need a condom
Too many I need ... phrases and let's keep it decent. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

 * What's not decent about that? This seems a very valid phrase for a traveller to need to use in a foreign country. I can't lay my hands on a phrasebook at the immediate second, but I suspect most commercial ones have twice the list of "I need ..." phrases we do, and almost certainly "I need a condom".--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:53, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

 * OK, I'll withdraw if you find a commercial phrasebook with "I need a condom". On the decency, until we have clear CFI, we should keep the phrasebook as decent as possible with less duplications, perhaps also without big growth, IMO. So far, it seems there are more people against the phrasebook and then for it - Votes/pl-2012-12/Removing phrasebook. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 01:44, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * If being published in a commercial phrasebook is our standard, here's some related phrases we could use:
 * ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 03:11, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * A couple more related phrases:
 * ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 21:02, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what you mean by decent. A condom is an ordinary item that may well be needed by a travelling tourist.--Prosfilaes (talk) 06:50, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Or a couple on a honeymoon. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 18:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep to counteract the bare-bones vote by Tolkien's monster. I would consider supporting deletion if a meaningful rationale is provided. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For future reference, whenever I don’t give my own rationale it’s because I agree with nominator’s rationale. — Ungoliant (Falai) 00:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Ungoliant (Falai) 02:21, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep to counteract the bare-bones vote by Tolkien's monster. I would consider supporting deletion if a meaningful rationale is provided. --Dan Polansky (talk) 20:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
 * For future reference, whenever I don’t give my own rationale it’s because I agree with nominator’s rationale. — Ungoliant (Falai) 00:16, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

No consensus to delete. bd2412 T 19:12, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deletion
Hello, and happy New Year. You've deleted this entry in April 2017, but I cannot find an RFD discussion apart from the one above. To be clear, I agree with the deletion, but I just want to know if it was your own decision or a communal one. I'd like to delete 🇨🇬 as well, but maybe there's no need for RFD? --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 16:32, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Happy New Year. Please see Talk:I need shampoo, where you'll find an RFD discussion I created to delete the entry I need shampoo. In that discussion, we entertained the notion that maybe the numerous "I need ..." entries could be deleted without RFDs. That's why I deleted I need a condom without an RFD, and now, after you sent that message, I deleted j'ai besoin d'un préservatif without an RFD too. I trust that if someone disagrees and wants to see them restored, they will do it themselves or create a new discussion about it. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 09:59, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Could I ask you to delete мне патрэбны прэзерватыў and мне нужен презерватив as well? Thanks! --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 17:28, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 18:08, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

title: Talk:I need a condom


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Talk:conceited

conceited
Rfd-redundant: vain and egotistic

Sense covering it: having an excessively favorable opinion of one's abilities, appearance, etc.

The second definition was added in by an anon on 9 May 2007.

See also Tea_room, where DCDuring opined that "They are redundant. The second definition is better."

If the definition gets removed, its translations need to be tagged with ttbc. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:10, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

I have merged the senses, and moved all inconsistent translations to ttbc. bd2412 T 20:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

RFV discussion: December 2016
Striking, and also bumping this off the "smallest discussions" list. I assume this can just be deleted though? Andrew Sheedy (talk) 00:08, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:conceited


text:
Talk:-oth

-os
I'll just repeat my statement from the tea room: "-os, -oth et alia aren't actually suffixes in English. They're suffixes in Hebrew (and arguably Yiddish), but they're never appended (except humorously, but not in a CFI-attestability sort of way) to nouns that didn't already have that pluralization back in Hebrew. Put another way, halachoth is not halachah + -oth but taken wholesale from Hebrew halakhót." —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete. As Μετάknowledge says, these don't seem to be applied to non-Hebraic words; they don't even seem to be applied to that many Hebraic words. It is somewhat useful to know that foo+ usually becomes "foo-os" or "foo-oth" in English, but a usage note at may be a better place to house that information, because I'm not convinced that anyone would look at "halachot", know what "halacha" meant but not know what "halachot" meant, and think "-ot must be an English suffix, I should look it up" as opposed to "I should look up halachot". PS, note that I am the creator of "-oth"—I think it is as deserving or undeserving as "-os". - -sche (discuss) 17:55, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Keep -os, and keep -oth if "halachoth" is really an English word. As -sche says, no one would ever look this up; however, they might well follow a link to it. It's (presumably) true that this suffix is not productive in English, but it is retained in English, which can't be said for all languages' plural endings. (There are plenty of English nouns from Amerindian languages, but I challenge you to find even one singular–plural pair where English retained the source language's number marking. Go ahead, try.) —Ruakh TALK 05:40, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

 * @Ruakh: They wouldn't follow a link to it if we would just remove the links. The links should be removed in turn because it's not an English suffix. Moreover, even with your unfair Amerindian challenge (many such languages don't follow the Indo-European concept of countability), I easily found the example of pochtecatl (plural pochteca), which can be attested in English (both forms) via BGC. I don't really see your argument to keep. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 21:44, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Why isn't this analogous with -i, which forms the plural of some Latin-derived words? Furius (talk) 01:43, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * -i has been internalized into English. For example: rhinoceri. --WikiTiki89 02:00, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Kept for lack of consensus to delete. bd2412 T 14:35, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

RFV discussion: November 2013–June 2014

 * See Talk:-os.

title: Talk:-oth


text:
Talk:antilibration

Today's dictionary.com word of the day was "lipogram", and one of the example quotations also include "antilibration". I see that there is no quote here, so I'll copy over the one from there. I am not too familiar with copyright laws, but I think this should be okay since it's just a simple sentence that they quoted from somebody else. "So the poet whose hunger is simply to speak—tell truths, right wrongs—what need has he for the lipogram, for colors of rhetoric, antilibrations of phrase on phrase?" -- John Gardner, Jason and Medeia, 1973. source: http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday/archive/2013/12/12.html--Garfieldnate (talk) 07:14, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:antilibration


text:
Talk:-x

Deletion discussion
Same as above, except this time for certain French nouns. It also isn't productive in English. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Delete per the definition itself. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:31, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Move to RfV or delete. DCDuring TALK 15:32, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I think I've managed to attest this suffix in use in English formations; see, Citations:cointreaux, , and the insufficiently-attested-for-an-entry Citations:maraboux. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Moved to RfV. bd2412 T 16:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

RFV discussion
RFV for the plural suffix (from the homographic French). Bd2412 closed the suffix's RFD discussion with "Moved to RfV" (see Talk:-x), but it was never sent here. I bring this here for that procedural reason. Regarding the suffix's attestation, I think, Citations:cointreaux, Citations:maraboux, and are enough to verify the independent use of -x in English. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:34, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

 * I'm not so sure they're English. The first quote for binioux is instructive: "...the bagpipes or binioux as they are known in France". The writer is obviously under the impression that binioux is the correct plural in French, and is using it as a French word. Being bad at speaking French doesn't change your French into English, it's just bad French. It would be like creating an English entry for buenas días because some people who don't speak Spanish very well think is feminine. It looks to me like most, if not all, of these quotes are of people attempting to use the French plural for a French word, but getting it wrong (except for cointreaux, which apparently is the correct plural in French- see fr:cointreaux). Chuck Entz (talk) 04:47, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

 * To quote myself, mut. mut., in above (my post timestamped: 01:15, 18 January 2014), "I think that use of a plural-marking suffix in contexts that would be incorrect in the source language is a sign of its morphemity — it shows that the user of the suffix is thinking ‘[-x] marks a plural’, and not just that there are a bunch of listemes where the singular happens to end in [-u] and the plural meanwhile happens to end in [-ux]." Of course, uses of cointreaux in English do nothing to establish the morphemity of -x, since that plural could simply have been borrowed directly from French (rather than having been constructed independently in English). BTW, if * is attested in English, then yes, it should have some kind of entry (compare ). — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:55, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * It's kind of ambiguous. On one hand, it's productive use in English by English speakers. But on the other, those same speakers consciously intend to form a plural in a non-English way. Is it English if English speakers try to purposely apply French grammar to French words that are used in English? It's really not different from Latin or Greek plurals. 00:16, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

 * Nobody seems very convinced, and a year has passed, so I'm calling this RFV failed. Equinox ◑ 16:24, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Gender-neutral suffix
However, see Tea_room/2015/February where it is argued that something like this is not a suffix and should be moved back to x; compare -@. - -sche (discuss) 06:31, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
 * See also Tea_room/2019/March. - -sche (discuss) 20:49, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Tea_room/2022/August. - -sche (discuss) 18:44, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

English
As plural of French loanwords. For many words in -eau and -ieu adopted from French, we still write the plural with -x as an alternative to the English -s. Sometimes we pronounce it /z/, as in standard English plurals, but if we want to be truer to a word’s origins, we often do not. It seems that we appreciate the look of final -x as a plural marker, perhaps as a reminder that these words came from French.

Portmanteaus for the linguistic sense, but -x is used for the item of luggage; (iv) purlieus; the - x of the plurals jeux d’esprit, prie-dieux, and often of milieux, is left unpronounced, unlike that of rouleaux. --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:04, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

"30x classes"
How does this example read out exactly? --Backinstadiums (talk) 08:28, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:-x


text:
Talk:dolemite

dolemite
Rare misspelling of dolomite. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:21, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Clearly a "word". Why is this an RfD issue rather than an RfV issue? In any case, a Google Books search for "dolemite" AND calcium brings up well over a hundred results; for example:
 * 2013, Richard C. Ropp, Encyclopedia of the Alkaline Earth Compounds, page 364:
 * Marble is a rock resulting from the metamorphism of sedimentary rocks such as limestone or dolemite rocks.
 * 2011, John P Rafferty, Britannica Educational Publishing, Geology: Landforms, Minerals, and Rocks: Minerals page 330:
 * ...a review of recent scientific progress and remaining scientific and economic problems concerning the mineral dolemite.
 * 1924, Arthur Hastings Grant, Harold Sinley Buttenheim, The American city, Volume 31, page 34:
 * These include limestone (calcium carbonate), dolemite (calcium and magnesium carbonate), sandstone and shales, as well as beds of chlorides of sodium (common salt), calcium and magnesium, and beds of calcium sulfate (gypsum).
 * Whether it is a rare alternative spelling or a misspelling, it is something we would have. Since the original word, dolomite, is "[f]rom French dolomite, named after the French mineralogist and engineer Déodat de Dolomieu", it follows that dolemite is indeed a misspelling. In that case, it's worth having to correct the errant. Cheers! bd2412 T 02:21, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept for no consensus for deletion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:32, 28 September 2013 (UTC) Reopening. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as too rare a misspelling, thus per nom. suggests that the frequency ratio of the two forms is too unfavorable for "dolemite", which is more than 8000 times less common than the other form. I've used User_talk:Dan_Polansky to calibrate the ratio threshold, which I leave unspecified. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I would suggest that this situation differs from the normal misspelling due to the half-million Google hits that "dolemite" gets, largely due to the film, Dolemite, which could lead people astray. bd2412 T 19:14, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 16:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:dolemite


text:
papillo-

Etymology
From.

Derived terms

 * papilloma
 * papillomatous
 * papillorenal
 * papillorenal
 * papillorenal
 * papillorenal
 * papillorenal
 * papillorenal

title: papillo-


text:
Moorish Scientist

Noun

 * 1) An adherent of the, a religion founded in the early 20th century by Timothy Drew on the claim that African Americans descended from Moors and were originally Islamic, and centered on personal transformation and racial pride.

title: Moorish Scientist


text:
g'

Pronoun

 * 1) * Circa 1180, Chrétien de Troyes, Lancelot ou le chevalier de la charrette
 * "Mes va quel part que tu voldras Et g’irai la ou tu iras."
 * "But go wherever you want And I'll go where you go."
 * "But go wherever you want And I'll go where you go."

title: g'


text:
mjedis

Etymology
From, equivalent to 🇰🇲.

Noun

 * 1) environment, nature

title: mjedis


text:
Citations:sidewall

Verb: to sneak into a (circus) tent by crawling under the wall

 * 1985 December 15, Jeff O'Neill, Ballyhoo [video game], Infocom:
 * Side-walling—crawling in under the canvas wall—is the last resource of local urchins who can't even afford the blues.
 * 1985 December 15, Jeff O'Neill, Ballyhoo [video game], Infocom:
 * Side-walling—crawling in under the canvas wall—is the last resource of local urchins who can't even afford the blues.

title: Citations:sidewall


text: pistokkaista

title: pistokkaista


text: 𢏣

title: 𢏣


text:
power structure

Noun

 * 1) A system of authoritative power in an institution.
 * 2) Those who participate in such a system.
 * 1) Those who participate in such a system.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish: magtstruktur, magtapparat
 * Finnish: valtarakenne
 * German:, Machtgefüge
 * Japanese: 権力構造
 * Norwegian:
 * Bokmål: maktstruktur
 * Nynorsk: maktstruktur
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian: вла́стная структу́ра

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Danish:
 * Finnish: valtaapitävät
 * German:
 * Japanese:
 * Portuguese:
 * Russian:

title: power structure


text:
unligne

Etymology
From, the latter from ,.

Adjective

 * 1) undeniable

title: unligne


text: 𢆫

title: 𢆫


text: tonners

title: tonners


text:
User talk:Reinthal

borrowed words are not cognates
No, we allow borrowed words as cognates. Per yourself it isn't even borrowed from German, but from Yiddish. The Yiddish comes from Old High German whence the German... . Mglovesfun (talk) 19:51, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

title: User talk:Reinthal


text: 雾霾

title: 雾霾


text:
霧霾

Noun

 * 1) smog; fog and haze

title: 霧霾


text: 内脏

title: 内脏


text:
內臟

Noun

 * 1)  internal organ; viscera

title: 內臟


text:
follow the crowd

Verb

 * 1)  To conform to majority beliefs, opinions, or practices.
 * As much as the next guy, I don't like to follow the crowd.

Translations

 * Chinese:
 * Mandarin:
 * Finnish: kulkea joukon mukana, kulkea lauman mukana
 * French:
 * Portuguese:, ir pela cabeça dos outros, ir na onda dos outros
 * Swedish: gå med strömmen,, ,

title: follow the crowd


text:
bryce

Etymology 1
From, from.

Noun

 * 1) breaking
 * 2) breach, violation
 * 3) fragment

Etymology 2
From.

Adjective

 * 1) breakable, frail, fleeting

Etymology 3
From.

Adjective

 * 1) useful

title: bryce


text:
powerstructure

Noun

 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.
 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.
 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.
 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.
 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.
 * 1)  An analog of a power set in the context of mathematical structuralism.

title: powerstructure


text:
bellan

Etymology 1
From, from.

Verb

 * 1) to roar, bellow, bark

title: bellan


text:
beorcan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to bark
 * 2) * late 10th century, , Riddle 68
 * "ang"
 * "ang"

- Hwīlum iċ beorce swā hund.

title: beorcan


text:
nallebjörn

Noun

 * 1) a teddy bear or teddy

title: nallebjörn


text:
teddybjörn

Etymology
, equivalent to.

Noun

 * 1) a teddy bear or teddy

title: teddybjörn


text: nallebjörnen

title: nallebjörnen


text: Category:Terms derived from Afar

title: Category:Terms derived from Afar


text: Category:Requests for gender in Somali entries


text: Category:Venetian terms derived from Spanish


text: Category:Venetian terms derived from Phoenician


text: Category:Venetian terms derived from Canaanite languages


text: Category:Venetian terms derived from Northwest Semitic languages


text: 裂缝

title: 裂缝


text:
裂縫

Noun

 * 1)  crack; crevice

Verb

 * 1)  to crack; to split

title: 裂縫


text: nallebjörnar

title: nallebjörnar


text:
裂紋

Noun

 * 1) crack
 * 2) crackle e.g. on porcelain

title: 裂紋


text: 裂纹

title: 裂纹


text: nallebjörnarna

title: nallebjörnarna


text: Category:Punic determiners

title: Category:Punic determiners


text: Category:Punic terms derived from Phoenician


text: Category:Punic terms derived from Canaanite languages


text: Category:Punic terms derived from Northwest Semitic languages


text: teddybjörnen

title: teddybjörnen


text: Category:Punic terms derived from Central Semitic languages


text: teddybjörnar

title: teddybjörnar


text: teddybjörnarna

title: teddybjörnarna


text:
User talk:Quercus solaris

galacto-, papillo-
These two pages you created have triggered errors. Can you fix them please? 21:57, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Well, this *is* Wiktionary, so they haven't generated any errors in the true meaning of that word but rather just (1) the pedantic treating of nonerroneous differences of preference for how to phrase something as if they were errors and (2) the introduction of true errors during the follow-up (iatrogenic illness, as it were) when another person doesn't entirely understand the value that they are subtracting when they remove or comment out information that is valid and useful in a way that they just don't happen to recognize; and so on. ;-) But anyway, all of the introduced errors and other-people's-preference-accepting are resolved now. Quercus solaris (talk) 14:21, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

asynchronous
We don't just create headings on the fly here. Refer to WT:ELE for proper headings. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 20:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

pathosis
See my edit: here. Refer to other entries as a template. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 21:54, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

obviate
"Ha ha, once upon a time this was an open wiki dictionary that invited the public to edit." You've already been asked on this talk page to add stuff properly. If we don't enforce basic norms, it will become absolute gibberish. Don't get touchy. Equinox ◑ 04:08, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

mononuclear, etc.
I think this is just. I see no need to postulate a separate suffix. — Keφr 15:04, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
 * Also, the morphology category should be added by a morphology template like, not manually. — Keφr 16:36, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

 * On the first point, I suppose you're right, the more I think about it. I checked some major dictionaries for a suffix entry and did not find one. Are you able to delete the page I created? If so, you have my blessing. I don't know how to do that. On the second point, I suspected as I was proceeding that there was something about automated processes for category tagging that I didn't know, but I did the best I could during the session at hand (during which I was short on time to go off and learn more about that). :-) Thanks for the input. Godspeed. Quercus solaris (talk) 00:26, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Not at all. (Also, there is no semantic restriction to this supposed suffix either; is attestable, and it pertains to atomic nuclei.) It could be 'd, but I guess nobody is going to object if I speedy it. Hail Discordia. — Keφr 13:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Darwinism, Parkinsonism
Both have many plural uses easily found in Google Books. Why remove plural? Please restore. Equinox ◑ 00:15, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

 * You are correct. Done. Thanks. Quercus solaris (talk) 01:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)

Your "oughta" list
Would it be helpful for me to remove the blue links that have English? Equinox ◑ 18:37, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks for offering, but I kind of like them right now. Interestingly, just the simple expedient of being able to dump all those terms into a window, hit "preview", and immediately get to see "scattered red bits swimming in a sea of blue" was really helpful and was a fun exercise for me. I know that applying that term to it could seem a bit grandiose, but I really do feel that it was legitimately a bit of data visualization for me (more explanation follows). For various reasons, that particular data set provided an interesting test of Wiktionary's comprehensiveness, and I am pleased to say that Wiktionary scored very well on it, because (1) most of them are already blue (which is a big deal by itself) and (2) the only ones that were still red as of the date of that page creation are ones that are not especially low-hanging fruit for new entry, with fairly few exceptions. As I was skimming over the red bits, I grabbed a few of (what were for me) the "juiciest" ones to immediately pluck (that is, to turn blue by entry creation). My plan is that in coming months I can pluck another one whenever I have time or need a mental break from what else I was doing. Which is kind of enjoyable (I say to a fellow Wiktionary contributor, who would understand—while of course many other people would disagree!). Eventually the red in that list will dwindle to near zero, not only because of my own plucking but because of the background rate of continual crowdsourced growth. Cheers, Quercus solaris (talk) 22:14, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * The square-bracket links show blue if there is any entry, regardless of language. If you use, they will be blue for English and orange for other languages (and red for missing). Equinox ◑ 22:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Cool. I will switch to that soon. Thanks. Quercus solaris (talk) 22:22, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * That needs to be enabled in your preferences under Gadgets, "OrangeLinks: colour links orange if the target language is missing on an existing page" DTLHS (talk) 23:17, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I turned it on. Quercus solaris (talk) 23:20, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Quote formatting: #*, not #:
I fixed some of them, e.g. Special:Diff/49179837/49216460. – Jberkel 23:36, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

miscarriage
Hi QS. I've edited this entry, changing the definition and Usage note in a way which hopefully deals with the distinction that was bothering you. I think a subsense is not necessary (and a bit messy), and "Outside of modern medicine" is not really an appropriate context label. Ƿidsiþ 07:41, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

 * I like the way you handled the distinction; it is another good way. Thanks for following up thoughtfully. Now that I see the way you handled it, I'm slightly surprised that I didn't think of handling it that way myself, because I've handled similar cases that way before: "X, especially X with Y attribute". It's interesting to think about the various ways that lexicography can handle closely related/overlapping but not identical word senses, including the distinction that some dictionaries make of "sense 2" versus "sense 1b"—that is, two ways to differentiate from "sense 1", but the latter a subset rather than a coordinate sense—and also "X, especially X with Y attribute," within one numbered sense. The difference between that handling and the "sense 1 versus 1b" handling is interesting to me also because humans can easily handle the overlap and ambiguity ("within one numbered sense"), but I suspect that it is challenging for, which maybe wants to model the world in terms of "1 versus 1b". Anyhow, regards. Quercus solaris (talk) 22:58, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Alternative forms
Hi. If you create an alt form entry (like mon(o)arthritis) and copy the entire definition etc. this gets really hairy to maintain: we have to think about two pages of definitions, translations, pictures, blah blah. It's better to create a simple alternative form of entry that links back to the first one. Thanks for considering. Equinox ◑ 03:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

 * Hi, Good point. Brain blip. I agree with you that the non-content-forked method is superior. I will convert these sometime. Thanks. Quercus solaris (talk) 03:36, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Capital letters on glosses
Hi. Glosses are case-sensitive. If you write Publishing instead of publishing (for example) it won't work! Equinox ◑ 16:07, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

 * @Equinox — Thank you for the tip! I saw them displaying with lowercases despite my capped input and I thought, "Oh, I guess MediaWiki is automatically rendering them that way per a design decision." But I guess you had already fixed them for me! Thanks, Quercus solaris (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Bringing down the outhouse
You deserve a barnstar for deadpanning this usage note. Minh Nguyễn 💬 22:08, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

 * And kudos to you for having the sharpness to notice. As much as some other editors might conceivably decide to attack the phrasing, there's hardly a more succinct way to convey the point, nor a pedagogically better way. Cheers. Quercus solaris (talk) 22:26, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Please accept my most sincere apologies
I value your edits to this project and I apologize that I and I alone have caused this controversy, but I'm removing the autopatroller right per discussion on my talk. I've made a mess for you and I hope this doesn't discourage you from contributing here. Again, please forgive me for making things needlessly complicated. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:46, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Hi Justin! No sweat, regarding autopatrol detail! Thanks for being collegial. I added my two cents/reply at this edit. And by the way, thanks also for being hugely helpful to humanity with the scale of your accomplishments at both Wikipedia and Wiktionary. I remember when I read the news article about your Wikipedian work several years ago, I think it was in NYT or some similarly big digital newspaper. I admire your productivity—you get more done per year than I ever will. It's fun to actually thank you directly, kind of analogous to being a fan at a book signing who gets to spend one minute thanking the author directly. Best regards! Quercus solaris (talk) 19:07, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * How kind. Unfortunately, real life has been keeping me busy for a long time and I haven't been as productive around these projects as I would like to be. I'm glad that so many others decide to donate their time and energy, such as yourself. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:09, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Adding alternative o-suffix analyses
In, you added alternative analysis +. I think it is not a good idea: it clutters the entry without adding anything of value. Our having entry in addition to  is bad enough. For instance, is not alternatively described in the entry as  +, and I don't think it should, or that we should provide nearly all such -o- entries with these two parallel analyses. We are fortunate enough to have no and only. was deleted via RFD. Admittedly, our practice has been inconsistent, but most suffixes do not have their -o variant while they could. I created a RFD for. Dan Polansky (talk) 08:00, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

 * Hi, That's fine, I accept that viewpoint and will adhere to it going forward. Thanks, Quercus solaris (talk) 08:01, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Excessively wordy usage notes
Thank you for reducing the usage note in developed country. I think the purpose of the note was fine, but the execution less so. Some notes: I think you have a potential to write unique usage notes that other people do not write, but the style needs to be dramatically improved, and in case of doubt, one or two short sentences should suffice. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:32, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Avoid using difficult words. quantitation is a difficult word even if attested and documented in dictionaries. Communicate to have readers understand, not decipher.
 * I have no idea what "better quantitation" means, not even after reading quantitate, in the sense "To measure the quantity of".
 * Avoid excessive linking of words and phrases in the usage notes. If the term is difficult, it is perhaps not a good idea to use it. Some linking may be fine.
 * Avoid long complex sentences. This was a single sentence: "Although the terms developed country and developing country remain in wide use as of 2022, some style guides (for example, the AMA Manual of Style in its 11th edition) deprecate the use of these terms because they presuppose or imply that either economic development or human development is a binary concept of haves and have-nots rather than the reality that it is a never-ending/always-changing spectrum of ongoing effort and degrees of attainment; for example, none of the G7 countries is "finished" being developed socioeconomically (as the participial adjective developed implies) or is "better" than "the rest of the world", and many of the countries that some people assert as being developing (or, still more insultingly, third-world) are not destitute, lesser, lagging, primitive, savage, pathetic, or pitiable, as the participial adjective developing sometimes implies and as the adjective third-world almost always implies when not clearly/unmistakably being used in its historical sense (see also Third World § Usage notes)."
 * Remarkable. This does not look like English writing.
 * It looks as an exercise in wordiness, documenting for readers near-synonym lists and alternative ways of phrasing the same. To wit, "destitute, lesser, lagging, primitive, savage, pathetic, or pitiable" has 7 adjectives. And as the matter of fact, "developing" implies almost none of the strongly negative adjectives. Did the source use these adjectives? The gravest objection to "developing" is that the "developed" countries are also developing, not finished. One may come up with the opposite interpretation: "developing" is good since it is still improving while "developed" is bad since it is finished. Arguably, the usage guides are opinionated on the matter, and not very objective.
 * Avoid parentheticals. Sparse parenthetical can be fine (but nested ones less so [and doubly nested even less]). Multiple parentheticals in a single sentence are suspect.
 * Cut needless words. Instead of "rather than the reality that it is a never-ending/always-changing spectrum", you can write "rather than being a never-ending spectrum", with not much difference in the conveyed meaning.

 * TL;DR: Hi Dan, thanks for the analysis, and although it may seem surprising, I just want to assure that I actually totally "get" all of the above points already (to which you might think "how is that possible when you don't follow them?!"). I actually have an important and valid defense on that point, but I am starting to learn better how to sequester my efforts to shield other audiences from them. Long story short, in the <1% of instances when my writing gets too long, it is because I am addressing an underlying problem that is more complex than a one-line upshot can adequately address. But going forward, you should see little to none of those outliers at Wiktionary, because I am getting better at sequestering them in other places. Any few that you might find somewhere in Wiktionary, from now on, will probably just be the few that I did before I improved on this point (and the developed country entry is an example of that). I'm OK with you just deleting them on sight if you find any more. Regards, Quercus solaris (talk) 16:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Further exposition, which you need not read, but which closes the loop for my own analysis, and might possibly be interesting to a few others who might read this page in future: The points above, very good and well-intentioned though each of them is, in certain combinations generate some double bind instructions that don't work successfully in the particular context that my working life is constantly immersed in. A chief example of the double-bind theme is an instruction to "explain (and/or point out) to someone the factors that they are overlooking, or failing to integrate, or even unaware of, but also without forcing them to learn anything, not even a single vocabulary item, and it doesn't matter whether you link the "Big Word" to its definition (as help tip), because if they have to click through on even a single link then you've failed, by that fact per se." But people can't actually learn much under that double-bind version of pedagogy; it only works for the more basic subsets of things that they may need explanations of. (For example, no school textbook can teach any academic subject successfully under the rubric of "introduce absolutely zero new vocabulary, even if it's linked".) Much of my career has been in solving certain problems and also explaining to other people how it was done, for any combination of spreading the capability and/or justifying/defending the solution against counterchallenges. But beyond those facts, what I've started to learn better lately is that that aspect of what I do for a living has to remain sequestered within certain contexts because it is beyond the level that is acceptable outside those, and furthermore, my work recurrently forces me to deal with the outliers and boundary cases, because all of the simpler ones are solved by others without my help, which means by corollary (via that species of filter bubble) that other people see output coming from me (recurrently) that is of an unusual type that they are not familiar with and they "don't know what to make of it" (how to view or categorize it). Thus I am largely (although not exclusively) an engine that churns out a special class of solutions that aren't provided by the other engines upstream, which handle all the normal work. For a long time I was understandably miscalibrated on the aspect of how much I should share, because major reference works contain plenty of the same thing that I do, at least of the basic and intermediate classes, and I've always (naturally) thought, "well, I'm just providing some helpings of that same dish, and also sharing them at the Wikimedia projects (e.g., Wiktionary, Wikipedia) where people can access it whenever they google something." But what I've become more conscious of lately is that there are several classes of this type of effort—the basics class, an intermediate class, and a hard class of boundary cases. And by the very nature of the business world, I deal a lot with the boundary cases and corner cases that other people couldn't deal with, because they don't need me for the others that are easier. The appropriate action going forward is to keep that hard class sequestered within the context of "special help inside the business world, only for people who need it to preempt usage disputes," not any reference work that the public can dip into sporadically for easy answers that require little to no thought or learning. I think I'm finally OK with that fact now that I no longer misapprehend that I would be abdicating by sequestering thus. And I now understand that all Wiktionary needs to do is either (1) provide a dirt-simple single-line usage tip (where one is applicable) or else (2) just tell its user that a usage caution exists about this term but they will have to turn to additional reference works X or Y to learn what it is. Aside: Too much of my work is helping people who still have questions even after doing that, which explains why I acknowledge synonyms and hypernyms and hyponyms so much, and try to provide glosses and examples so much, because when I don't do those things, people don't get it, plus they then ask about whichever points I didn't already preemptively acknowledge, which just makes a conversation that we already don't have time for (because it is too lengthy) even longer. Counterproductive. For example, reduce the developed country tip to just "be more quantitative", but then people don't get what it means because it's not explained. (But if it were explained then we would be back to multiple lines of text again, but they don't want multiple lines of text. So then, "teach me what you mean but without explaining and without saying more than 5 words." Oh, OK, sure, well that's easy, lol). But I am learning to get better and better at hiding it all since they largely are unable to handle it anyway. Capture it in a knowledge base, for example, and if they ask about it, give them a one-line link saying "already handled here" (and then they are on their own to develop their own counterchallenges if they so dearly value doing so, but of course they virtually never do, once they encounter the true depth or scope of the problem that pops their superficial flawed assumption that the tip of the iceberg were the entire iceberg. "Oh, never mind then, I'm not participating anymore." This is where most truly tricky current usage disputes eventually end up (not the simple long-settled ones). Quercus solaris (talk) 16:38, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Well, the above contains more examples of what I was trying to point out to avoid. If that's the style that you have consciously chosen for your self-presentation, that's up to you. I think you have mixed in my advice with advice given by someone else. My advice does not lead to any insoluble double bind (contradictory instructions) as far as I can see. It is about avoiding "excess"; it is not all or nothing. Some hard words are fine, some linking may be fine, some brackets can be fine. It is to ponder whether you are writing text for others to read and understand or whether you are writing an analysis for yourself for your later reference. The requirements for the two cases are very different. I suspect that I do not wholly understand some of the things you are saying, but then, I am not a native speaker. On the other hand, I have just surveyed academic literature on compounds and I understood their writing well.
 * Let me pick just one example: "I was understandably miscalibrated on the aspect of how much I should share": what does it mean? Does it mean "I had a wrong idea about how much I should share"? finds almost nothing; is this idiomatic English?
 * Anyway, you got the message and there is a good chance the usage note problem is largely solved now, except for what remains in the mainspace to be edited and pruned. Thank you.
 * As an aside, did you consider adding Babel to your user page?
 * --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:41, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

 * Ha ha, yes, it is definitely idiomatic English, just not simple English and not dumbed down from its first draft. It is an instance of the class that "I expressed exactly the thought/concept that I wanted to express, as fast as I could and using quite apt vocabulary and syntax, but then did not bother to spend more time making it shorter and ejecting half the thought content and nuance." You are of course right that the upshot is that other people don't have time for reading it. In fact not even I have time for typing it, let alone sinking more time to make it shorter. Thus I ought to just disengage more from WT and WP—dial back my degree of participation. I have started working on implementing that goal. As soon as these discussion threads are over, WT and WP should be hearing less from me, except for dumb simple edits (such as linking a synonym and just writing "syn" in my edit summary). Quercus solaris (talk) 20:09, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Most people do not care about accuracy of edit summaries; I may be an outlier.

said "semantic relations and ontology components", but did nothing of the sort, from what I can see. It should have said "Add usage note", "+usage note", "+usg", or the like.

Another diff says "semantic relations and ontology components—syn". That's kind of excessive, isn't it? Better say "syn", "synonym", "+syn" or the like? No need to tell others that synonymy is a semantic relation and an ontology component, right? Possibly just a matter of preference. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:53, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

 * TL;DR: You're correct, and it's coincidental that you mentioned it just now, because just recently (before this feedback) I've started laying off that pattern of edit summary. The rest of my commentary (you can skip this part): That pattern of notation evolved in my edit summaries a while back because I had found myself recurrently doing edits that addressed semantic relations and ontology components—most simply, "what is X", "what other words are synonymous with this name for X", "is X a type of Y, or is it the same thing as Y", "how it X different from Y and from Z", and so on. I was trying to show/document that theme and also ward off the criticism (which I received at Wikipedia years ago) that I was not bothering to explain each edit enough, often did not give an edit summary, and so on. So I set my settings to prompt for edit summary and used the browser's autocomplete to fill in the pattern, then tweaked the tail of it for each edit. Recently I decided to stop doing all that, because it is superfluous in net effect and because I am finally accepting that no matter what I do do or don't do at WT and WP, someone is going to complain about it anyway. Speaking of the latter theme, I will probably dial back my WT and WP participation soon. At least, desisting is my theory at the moment. I have had that theory before, only to drift back into engagement again. But I think it may stick this time, because I now have a bit better understanding of the limits of what WT and WP can do for people. Regards, Quercus solaris (talk) 20:00, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

Hidden entry notes

 * I am not sure this is a good idea. It's witty, to be sure. Is it to amuse editors as opposed to readers? --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:08, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

 * It is to acknowledge a relevant point among editors while also avoiding bringing it to the users' attention and making them read it. Such commentized notes do have editorial value (referring to the sense of the word, not the journalism sense), but not value to most users. Editorial commentizing also serves as the editorial analogue of commentizing in programming: in the latter, the machine is the "user" of the executable but does not need the comments (and does not "read" or even "see" their contents), whereas the programmers use the comments as documentation, education, etc. Quercus solaris (talk) 22:26, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Labels
Hello. Please don’t use lb outside of definitions, as it also categorises terms. If you need to add a qualifier to a linked term or page, use q. The reason for this is that lb will categorise the page, so your edit categorised as a dated term. Theknightwho (talk) 19:59, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the heads-up. Will do. Quercus solaris (talk) 23:47, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

Venn overlap at piston engine
I think the only way to eliminate overlap is to have distinct definitions for the different circumscriptions. It's just link taxonomy. Traditional taxonomic names, say, at family rank, are occasionally split into sensu lato and sensu stricto. I imagine this is done to avoid the possibility that an unhelpful name will be required by following strict naming rules. We have lots of entries with definitions with both narrow and broad circumscriptions. Look among entries with "by extension" or "broadly" and "specifically", "narrowly", or "strictly". DCDuring (talk) 22:38, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

 * In some instances, a semantic relation reflects the difference between (1) a taxonomy instantiated as an entirely hierarchical tree albeit with narrow-versus-broad differences on each branch or leaf (which is what biological taxonomy by ancestry and heredity resolves to), and (2) other ontology (with Venn overlaps that do not resolve solely to hierarchical structure because concepts overlap in other logical ways — adoptive parents, stepparents, godparents, cousins, and friends, in addition to biological parents and grandparents, to speak figuratively). In other words, it is the same reason why many relational databases have relationship maps that do not resolve to purely hierarchal trees, as old hierarchical databases would require. Which naturally reflects some aspects of reality. I'm fine with the result at piston engine, although one thing that is very much worth pointing out is that if ontologies and semantic relations are to be both machine-readable (in the classic non-AI way) and consistently accurate (unambiguous and never wrong), then it is always safe to put something at the "coordinate terms" level if there is any hypernymous noun or noun phrase that is invariably truly hypernymous, and then use qualifiers to tell human users (as an added bonus, on the next logical level) that in many instances the relation is even closer than that. For example, a piston engine and an internal combustion engine are always (invariably) cohyponymous beneath the hypernym of engine, so it is always (invariably) true and safe to place them in the "coordinate terms" category (in a way that even the dumbest machine or human can comprehend and not get wrong), and the fact that most internal combustion engines are piston engines (and most mentions of ICEs refer instantially to piston ones) can additionally be noted with a qualifier (or not, if people refuse to do it). I am fine with putting things under cot or hypo in cases where the cot-vs-hypo difference depends on the narrow-vs-broader sense distinction, and noting by qualifier that "sometimes synonymous" or "sometimes coordinate" etc. Quercus solaris (talk) 01:31, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Translations in non-English entries
It looks like you've only done this once, but let me make it perfectly clear: translation tables are only allowed in English or some Translingual entries. People who add translations to one page aren't going to look for all the other pages that mean the same thing. Worse, if someone adds the same wrong translation to multiple pages, it's entirely posssible that those correcting it on one page won't fix the other pages. All of that means that none of the pages are as complete and correct as they could be. Think about the chaos that would result if every entry linked to at water/translations had its own version. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:44, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

 * Makes sense, thanks. I certainly appreciate the principle of not content forking whenever it can be avoided. I hadn't realized that translation tables are solely for English or Translingual in EN.wikt (whereas NL terms would have transl only in NL.wikt), but it makes sense, I now realize upon thinking consciously about it. I can't remember what drove me in that single instance to experiment with non-EN → non-EN transl, but I'll make sure not to repeat, now that I know better. Quercus solaris (talk) 05:11, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

enjoying
..the "more readily available at Google" HTML comment. Which manages to pack "1. fuck WT:CFI" and "2. do your own homework" into a small bullet of "f-you". Man you are audacious. Equinox ◑ 02:44, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Ooh, in dead seriousness, I'm sorry for coming off in a way that I totally didn't mean to. Really. I gave the commented-out link as a way that (in my intent) not only shows the size of the sample that I was working from but also provides a hyperlink to make it easy to get there (i.e., "don't have to take my word for it; here's what I'm working with"). It seriously was not a jab at all (I mean that). That's what any of my commented-out corpus searches are meant to provide, never any implication of "JFGI". Not at all. I apologize for coming off wrong. I will seriously try to be clearer with those in future. Quercus solaris (talk) 02:58, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Haha. No problem. I was born angry. I like you even if we disagree. Equinox ◑ 03:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Ditto! :-) Quercus solaris (talk) 03:07, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * I will take this conversational moment to beg you to be concise, and think of the poor uneducated reader who is looking up a word. I don't like it when you write a little mini-blog that could be equally stated with Related-Terms and See-Also. Yes, I know you're smart and there can't be many people on the planet who can tell "leucostasis" from "leukostatics" or w/e.  but you do tend to cross the line into blogging. No offence. Having said that, there are people who repeatedly get stuff wrong and you will never be one of those. THE FACTMAN. Equinox ◑ 03:11, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Bless you sir. I'm getting better at extracting the extract and bottling it up. You have my commitment to continuous improvement. Which sounds like corporate platitude but is meant sincerely here. Quercus solaris (talk) 03:22, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
 * PS: Wiktionary would be stillborn by now without you. Thank you for helping to save humanity from itself, or at least taking one hell of a crack at doing so. Quercus solaris (talk) 03:25, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * That's my boy ❤ RED HEART EMOJI Equinox ◑ 05:21, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

because you replied to Tea_room/2024/April
you might want to see if anyone else agrees with us in Beer_parlour/2024/April

Cheers! --173.67.42.107 23:56, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

title: User talk:Quercus solaris


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Kontinuum

Noun

 * 1) continuum

Related terms

 * (Continuo, Basso continuo)
 * (Continuo, Basso continuo)
 * (Continuo, Basso continuo)
 * (Continuo, Basso continuo)
 * (Continuo, Basso continuo)

title: Kontinuum


text: Kontinuums

title: Kontinuums


text: Kontinua

title: Kontinua


text: Kontinuen

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突変

Noun

 * 1)  mutation

title: 突変


text: 突变

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突變

Verb

 * 1) to change suddenly; to undergo a sudden change
 * 2)  to mutate; to undergo mutation

title: 突變


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đột biến

Etymology
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Verb

 * 1) to suddenly change; to transform suddenly

Noun

 * 1)  mutation

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染色體

Noun

 * 1)  chromosome

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text:
nhiễm sắc thể

Etymology
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Noun

 * 1)  a chromosome

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text: Scholastic

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text:
적응도

Noun

 * 1)  fitness

title: 적응도


text:
염색체

Noun

 * 1)  chromosome

title: 염색체


text:
Eckius

Etymology
Latinisation of the.

title: Eckius


text:
集団遺伝学

Noun

 * 1)  population genetics

title: 集団遺伝学


text:
自然選択

Etymology
🇰🇲

Noun

 * 1) natural selection

title: 自然選択


text:
ネオダーウィニズム

Noun

 * 1) neo-Darwinism

title: ネオダーウィニズム


text:
シンビオジェネシス

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  symbiogenesis

title: シンビオジェネシス


text:
하플로그룹

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  haplogroup

title: 하플로그룹


text: 組換え

title: 組換え


text:
くみかえ

Etymology
Nominalisation of.

Noun

 * 1) reshuffling, rearrangement, recombination
 * 2)  recombination

title: くみかえ


text:
くみかえる

Etymology
From (< ) +.

Verb

 * 1) to rearrange, reshuffle, reform, recombine (genes)

title: くみかえる


text:
Talk:водоросль

Dropping the middle "о"
Considering I have lived my whole life near a beach and heard this word quite frequently and never even knew that there was an extra vowel between the "д" and the "р", I think it's say to say that it is frequently dropped in speech. Next you'll be telling me that the "од" is never dropped in двоюродный. --WikiTiki89 22:48, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
 * You have surprised me again. I grew up on the beach (on the Black Sea coast) as well. I never heard such pronunciations. If they exist, I wouldn't spread them, they would be too rare or individual. The drop happens but not in these words. Do you really hear /dvɐˈjʉrnɨj/? I'd like to know who speaks so.
 * I don't know how to resolve this dispute. Perhaps, it needs to be cited. There are some knowledgeable people on the Russian Wiktionary, who may be able to dig something up for you or reveal accents they've heard. I can post a question, if one or two people confirm, we can add restore your IPA on двоюродный and here. Sorry, you must be feeling angry at me but I just can't accept this at the moment. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:00, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * If you search Google for "двоюрный" or "водросли", you can find tons of instances of such misspellings, including people asking what the correct spelling is. I think that's enough evidence that these pronunciations exist, even if only colloquially. --WikiTiki89 23:07, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * You're right. I have confirmed the variant pronunciations and restored, even though I never heard them. Sorry. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I think what happens is that when you know the spelling, you tend to hear the spelling, regardless of what is actually said. --WikiTiki89 23:27, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * I am more exposed to southern accents where there are other issues but vowels are pronounced clearer or even too clear. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:34, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

The audio on this page says во́доросель. Всем к логопеду! --Vahag (talk) 09:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * I agree with the epenthetic е, but Anatoli always seemed to remove them when I added them and I never thought of it as a big deal. --WikiTiki89 11:56, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Не вижу проблем с "водоросель", такое написание очень популярно в фольклоре, да из-за альтернативного смягчения "с" перед "ль" делает произношение немного неудобным. В любом случае, есть аудиозапись. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:водоросль


text:
핫스팟

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) hotspot

title: 핫스팟


text:
ཁྲབ་ཁྲབ

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) weeper, one that sheds tears on every occasion

title: ཁྲབ་ཁྲབ


text:
བཞད

Etymology 1
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to laugh, to smile

Verb

 * 1)  to blossom, to grow; to develop like a flower

title: བཞད


text:
kauhistella

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to bemoan, complain, regret, to dismay or worry about something; especially by using plentifully the adjectives,  and similar

Synonyms

 * see:

title: kauhistella


text:
perpetuitas

Noun

 * 1) perpetuity, continuity

title: perpetuitas


text:
འགྲོ

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to go

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to go, to walk, to proceed, to set off, to move, to depart, to migrate
 * 2) to get, to get into, to enter
 * 3) to find room in, to be contained in
 * 4) to turn to, to be transformed into, to become
 * 5) to be used for
 * 6) to be acceptable (to the senses)

Conjugation
Note: the past is more typical of eastern dialects, whereas  more of central dialects. The present/future form is occasionally also used in the past tense in colloquial Lhasa Tibetan and the colloquial speech of the Tibetan exile community.

title: འགྲོ


text:
hirvitellä

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to bemoan, complain, regret, to dismay or worry about something; especially by using plentifully the adjective,  and similar

Synonyms

 * see:

title: hirvitellä


text: bed wetter

title: bed wetter


text:
samantyyppinen

Adjective

 * 1) of the same type similar, but not quite

Usage notes
is typically used for denoting a high level of similarity while, and  usually refer to something that bears a resemblance while remaining distinct.

title: samantyyppinen


text: Category:Tagalog terms prefixed with dagi-


text:
dagisik

Adjective

 * 1) compressed

Etymology 2
.

Noun

 * 1) electron

title: dagisik


text:
dagipik

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) ion

title: dagipik


text:
ujanë

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) ocean
 * 2)  great quantity

title: ujanë


text: cuddly toy

title: cuddly toy


text:
kosedyr

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  cuddly toy (UK), stuffed animal

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  cuddly toy (UK), stuffed animal

title: kosedyr


text:
催涙ガス

Noun

 * 1) tear gas

title: 催涙ガス


text:
テクノ

Noun

 * 1) techno style of music
 * 2) techno-

title: テクノ


text: テグシガルパ

title: テグシガルパ


text: テルアビブ

title: テルアビブ


text:
電気通信

Noun

 * 1) telecommunications

title: 電気通信


text: skewnesses

title: skewnesses


text:
dagilusaw

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) electrolyte

title: dagilusaw


text:
テレタイプ

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) teletype

title: テレタイプ


text:
電話ボックス

Noun

 * 1) telephone booth

title: 電話ボックス


text:
Template:slim-wikispecies

 on Wikispecies Wikispecies

title: Template:slim-wikispecies


text:
テレックス

Noun

 * 1) telex

title: テレックス


text:
テロメア

Noun

 * 1) telomere

title: テロメア


text:
気質

Noun

 * 1) temperament, disposition

title: 気質


text:
炭水車

Noun

 * 1) tender fuel-carrying railroad car

title: 炭水車


text:
張力

Noun

 * 1)  tension state of an elastic object

Noun

 * 1)  tension state of an elastic object

title: 張力


text:
breoþan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to decay, waste away

title: breoþan


text:
テラバイト

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) terabyte

title: テラバイト


text:
valtarakenne

Noun

 * 1) power structure system of authoritative power in an institution

title: valtarakenne


text:
hallituspohja

Noun

 * 1)  government's base of support in a multiparty parliamentary system, those parties collectively which form the government

title: hallituspohja


text: tip-toe

title: tip-toe


text:
tippytoe

Noun

 * 1) * 2018,, The Shepherd's Hut, Picador UK Paperback edition 2018, p.114:
 * Auntie Marg was down from Magnet and me and Lee played cricket out the back with the littlies to get some air and keep them busy. Now and then a batter would really get onto one and the ball'd go out through the doublegee paddock towards the train tracks and someone'd have to go tippy-toeing through all that shit to get it.
 * Auntie Marg was down from Magnet and me and Lee played cricket out the back with the littlies to get some air and keep them busy. Now and then a batter would really get onto one and the ball'd go out through the doublegee paddock towards the train tracks and someone'd have to go tippy-toeing through all that shit to get it.

title: tippytoe


text: tippy-toe

title: tippy-toe


text:
じょうそう

Noun

 * 1)  upper level
 * 2)  sensibility
 * 3)  reporting to the throne

Verb

 * 1)  report to the throne

title: じょうそう


text:
ceorran

Etymology
From, from.

Verb

 * 1) to creak

title: ceorran


text:
legitly

Adverb

 * 1)  legitimately
 * 2)  really, very

title: legitly


text:
chilloh

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) Something spiced or cooked with chili.

title: chilloh


text:
cwelan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to die

title: cwelan


text:
調味

Verb

 * 1) to season food or drink; to add a condiment; to flavour; to dress

Noun

 * 1) seasoning; condiment; flavouring; dressing

Noun

 * 1) adding seasoning

Verb

 * 1) to season food or drink

title: 調味


text:
chiltototl

Noun

 * 1) northern cardinal

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A bird of red plumage; Cardinalis cardinalis, the northern cardinal.

title: chiltototl


text:
dreopan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to drop, drip

title: dreopan


text:
འོང

Etymology
From. Related to, which is an obvious alternative form of the same.

Verb

 * 1)  to come, to approach
 * 2)  to arise, to come about
 * 3)  to be suitable, to be practicable

title: འོང


text:
རྒལ

Etymology
Resultative of. A relationship with Chinese was proposed by.

Verb

 * 1)  to ford (a river), to cross, to traverse, to travel through
 * 2)  to pass, to exceed a measure

title: རྒལ


text:
ངུ

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to weep, to cry

title: ངུ


text: 边境

title: 边境


text:
邊境

Noun

 * 1) border; frontier

title: 邊境


text:
tlecalli

Noun

 * 1) chimney.

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A chimney or flue, a duct for conducting smoke.
 * 2) * Idem, f. 147r. col. 1.
 * Tlecalli. chimenea, o humero.
 * Tlecalli. a chimney, or a flue.
 * Tlecalli. chimenea, o humero.
 * Tlecalli. a chimney, or a flue.

title: tlecalli


text: 摆动

title: 摆动


text:
擺動

Verb

 * 1) to swing; to sway; to rock

title: 擺動


text: Grenadians

title: Grenadians


text:
རློབ

Verb

 * 1)  to bless, to control, to influence, to change into something else (as in )

title: རློབ


text: 辨认

title: 辨认


text:
辨認

Verb

 * 1) to identify; to recognize

title: 辨認


text:
common juniper

Translations

 * Finnish: ,
 * Welsh: meryw

title: common juniper


text:
གློ་བ

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  lung

title: གློ་བ


text:
ལྷགས་པ

Noun

 * 1) (cold, icy) wind

title: ལྷགས་པ


text:
རྦ

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) wave

title: རྦ


text:
བརླ

Noun

 * 1)  thigh

title: བརླ


text:
tleatoyatl

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A stream of fire.

title: tleatoyatl


text:
མདོག

Noun

 * 1) colour

Noun

 * 1) colour

title: མདོག


text:
མིང་ཚིག

Etymology
🇰🇲

Noun

 * 1)  noun

title: མིང་ཚིག


text:
བྱ་ཚིག

Noun

 * 1)  verb

title: བྱ་ཚིག


text:
རྒྱན་ཚིག

Noun

 * 1)  adjective

title: རྒྱན་ཚིག


text:
རྒྱན་སྤྲས

Adjective

 * 1) ornamented, adorned, decorated

title: རྒྱན་སྤྲས


text:
Juniperus communis

Hypernyms

 * - order; - family;  - subfamily;  - genus;  - section

Hyponyms

 * ,, , , - varieties

title: Juniperus communis


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/fatōną

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to hold; seize

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/fatōną


text: strong silent types

title: strong silent types


text:
dufan

Etymology
From, from.

Verb

 * 1) to dive, sink

title: dufan


text:
初年兵

Noun

 * 1) new recruit

title: 初年兵


text:
རྦ་རླབས

Noun

 * 1) wave

title: རྦ་རླབས


text:
atoyatontli

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) ; a stream or small river.
 * 2) * Idem, f. 9r. col. 1.
 * Atoyatontli. rio pequeño.
 * Atoyatontli. a small river.
 * Atoyatontli. rio pequeño.
 * Atoyatontli. a small river.

title: atoyatontli


text:
Ribes nigrum

Hypernyms

 * - family; - genus;  - subgenus;  - section

Hyponyms

 * - variety

title: Ribes nigrum


text:
deorfan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to labor
 * 2) to be in peril, perish

title: deorfan


text:
cryptorchism

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) The failure of one or both testes to descend into the scrotum.

title: cryptorchism


text: cryptorchisms

title: cryptorchisms


text:
시꺼멓다

Etymology
From the intensifying prefix and the adjective.

Adjective

 * 1) deep-black, sooted
 * 2) blackhearted, wicked

title: 시꺼멓다


text:
polyorchism

Noun

 * 1) The medical condition of having more than two testicles.

title: polyorchism


text:
acwinan

Etymology
From, the latter from.

Verb

 * 1) to dwindle, waste away

title: acwinan


text:
atoyatl

Noun

 * 1) river.

Noun

 * 1) river

Noun

 * 1) river

title: atoyatl


text:
触手

Noun

 * 1) tentacle elongated, boneless, flexible appendage
 * 2) an attempt to acquire something

title: 触手


text:
atoyapitzactontli

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) ; a stream or small river.

title: atoyapitzactontli


text:
Acer negundo

Synonyms

 * , ; box-elder, boxelder, box elder maple;, ; , , ; , , ; black ash, , ; ; ,

Hypernyms

 * - order; - family;  - subfamily;  - tribe;  - genus;  - section;  - series

title: Acer negundo


text: Category:Japanese terms spelled with 続 read as つづ


text:
atoyapitzactli

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) A small river, a stream.

title: atoyapitzactli


text: Category:Japanese terms spelled with 耶 read as や


text:
negundo

Etymology
, from

Derived terms

 * (box elder)

Noun

 * 1) box elder

title: negundo


text: 崩溃

title: 崩溃


text:
崩潰

Verb

 * 1)  to collapse; to fall apart; to crumble; to have a breakdown
 * 2)  to crash
 * 1)  to crash

title: 崩潰


text:
叫醒

Verb

 * 1) to wake somebody up; to rouse someone from their sleep; to awaken

title: 叫醒