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Talk:nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug

nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drug
"Any anti-inflammatory drug that does not contain steroids." Obvious SoP. Keep NSAID of course (single word) but split the link in that entry into [[nonsteroidal]] [[anti-inflammatory]] [[drug]]. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:10, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Ungoliant (Falai) 16:16, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep; it is a set term or a taxon in a widespread classification of pharmaceuticals. It may be a semantics sum of parts, but that is just because someone cared to give the taxon a transparent name. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:50, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete per nom. —msh210℠ (talk) 06:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Looks like this might pass the lemming test, so keep. DAVilla 16:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

 * Delete please. It's usefulness in pharmaceuticals can be cured by Wikipedia. --WikiTiki89 16:46, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * @DAVilla. I'm not sure that we have true Lemmus coverage of these, rather than coverage by other arvicolines, such as WordNet, medical glossaries, and mirrors of us. All are known to have SoP terms in abundance. Are they good enough? DCDuring TALK 17:47, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Kept. bd2412 T 16:01, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


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Talk:parents

parents
The translations table can stay (or be incorporated into [[parent]]'s), but surely the sense "one's mother and father" is redundant to the sense "plural of parent" to the extent that it isn't simply misleadingly and incorrectly over-specific. (We don't have a sense "one's own mother" at [[mother]] distinct from the sense "human female who parents a child or gives birth to a baby", or a sense "one's uncles" at [[uncles]].) - -sche (discuss) 01:54, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete BTW, "mother and father" doesn't cover all the cases, eg, step-, same-gender parents, let alone one or more transgender parents. DCDuring TALK 02:30, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Redundant to plural of parent, per nom. bd2412 T 03:41, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: Talk:parents


text:
Talk:I need a city map

I need a city map
This gets just 12 Google Books hits, and three of them are from the same book (Angels and Demons by Dan Brown). Mglovesfun (talk) 19:37, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete (along with all similar rubbish) SemperBlotto (talk) 07:02, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

 * I need a map: would be a rather more sensible phrasebook entry. Equinox ◑ 07:11, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree. --Yair rand (talk) 09:55, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * moved -- Liliana • 12:09, 6 June 2013 (UTC) Nope, I need a map failed RFD, we can't move it there. In this case, delete. -- Liliana • 12:10, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I thought, that in Phrasebook/Travel one can add all sentences, which one needs in a journey to solve problems. Maybe this was a mistake?! What sentences is Phrasebook/Travel for? I'm new and really don't know this. --Allexkoch (talk) 08:59, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't really have criteria for a phrasebook, apparently because no one finds the effort of drafting and getting agreement for it worthwhile, especially given some uncertainty about whether a phrasebook belongs here. Wiktionary is at least the most sensible incubator for a phrasebook and may be the best permanent home in the Mediawiki empire.
 * I personally think that the core sentence "I need a map" might be best, with some further Usage notes about how the English term is modified for politeness and greater specificity. "Excuse me. Where could I find a bus map of the city?" might be one useful end product for a user of a phrasebook, but it is obviously cumbersome as a entry itself. I don't know how to help a user who needs such a sentence get to I need a map and then produce the specific polite sentence needed. Maybe removing the politeness requirement helps. Interaction with strangers might begin with "(Excuse me. [if interrupting]) Could you help me?" That framing allows many following statements that would otherwise be too direct.
 * Without some kind of framework, I don't see how a user-useful phrasebook can be constructed. DCDuring TALK 13:20, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi DCDuring, thank you so much for your answer, I didn't expect to get one. (Please excuse my bad english, I'm german.) My aproach to the phrasebook/Travel is totally different (from yours and the others). I travel a lot through the world and I try to know the most important and useful words of the language of the country where I am by heart. So all this "excuse me bla bla bla ..." and "if interupting bla bla bla ... " is totally out of frame for me. If I am in a country like Hungaria or China I have to concentrate of a minimum of useful words, which will my partner hopefully understand. If my partner speaks english, then there is no problem, but if not!!!
 * For me, my purposes and my opinion this phrasebook/travel is a wonderful thing!!! One can get the most important sentences online!!! And I think, it should contain all these short (minmal short!!!) sentences one need abroad. You (and all this english speaking people here) should consider, that "I need a map" and "I need a city map" are very similar sentences in english but f.i. in German map is "Landkarte" and city map is "Stadtplan" or in french map is "carte geographique" and city map is "plan de ville" there is no similarity at all there and you will get two very different things if you use the false word.
 * So, I hope, this phrasebook/travel will continue to be - with minimal-word-sentences not concerned of good english, but of memorizable(!) words in all these other languages. And that it will not fail for this language purists, who I also honor with respect to the use of there own language. But if you are abroad you will be lucky to be understood by the people there with few words.
 * I think, phrasebook/travel should be not so much concerned with english but with internationalism. I anyway don't understand, why there are so many wiktionaries. I think one wiktionary is enough from every language to every language - like now the english wiktionary. All the other wiktionaries are - in my opinion - lost energy. I really hope for your and the others understanding - english is not the only language in the world! greetings --Allexkoch (talk) 19:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The fact that some language like French and German distinguish between "city map" and "country map" doesn't mean we have to have separate entries. We could still have a single I need a map page and then in the translations write "German: ich brauche einen Stadtplan ; ich brauche eine Landkarte ". —Angr 20:10, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
 * To Allexkoch: The English Wiktionary is usable by readers understanding English, the German Wiktionary by readers understanding German, etc. Yes, all wiktionaries are needed. About the phrase, I understand your concern, but the solution would be topical pages (e.g. Finding one's way), not this kind of page. Lmaltier (talk) 21:40, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

 * The voters in Talk:I need a map have decided that "I need ..." entries should be deleted. People wanting to delete these kind of entries in Talk:I need a map include Thrissel, Hekaheka, SemperBlotto, Mglovesfun, DCDuring, WikiTiki89, Equinox, CodeCat, Maro and possibly Liliana. This entry has mere 8 hits in Google books, which excludes it per one of the few objectives heuristic criteria that we had for phrasebook entries, that of number of hits. WT:PB mentiones three criteria for phrasebook entries: usefulness, simplicity and commonness. This entry does not meet the commonness criterion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

And it's gone. DAVilla 16:39, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Striken out. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:39, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:I need a city map


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Talk:make a living

earn a living
Both are SoP, in contrast to such expressions as bring home the bacon and even pay the bills/pay the rent/put food on the table, which at least are idiomatic inasmuch as they are metonymies. DCDuring TALK 21:22, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete, or redirect if we absolutely must (which is dismissing the readership as idiots who can't separate words by spaces). Equinox ◑ 21:41, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep. From a non-native-English perspective, make a living at least isn't entirely obvious.  The common JA gloss for EN, for instance, is , but this verb cannot be used sensibly with any of the common glosses for  (though I suppose some kind of allusion to Frankenstein might be possible).  That would seem to make this an idiomatic phrase.  The idiomatic JA equivalent would be , literally “to stand or set up a living”, similarly non-obvious for anyone not fluent in the language.  -- Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 22:11, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Re: "common gloss". That's why we take the trouble to offer several definitions of make. and livelihood is a perfectly serviceable gloss at living. I think it does a serious disservice to a language learner to suggest the there are idioms that have to be memorized just to know a single expression, when instead there are polysemic words to learn of very broad application, like make and living. DCDuring TALK 22:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete or redirect to [[living]] or [[living]]. —msh210℠ (talk) 07:46, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep both as idiomatic set expressions. Another synonym: bring home the bacon. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 14:33, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep, possibly outside of CFI. While both phrases can probably be understood when seen or heard, the existence of this way of putting it in English is unobvious, I think. Furthermore, both "make a living" and "earn a living" seem more common than the other synonyms, as per Google Ngram Viewer: make a living,earn a living,make ends meet,pay the bills,bring home the bacon,put food on the table,pay the rent.--Dan Polansky (talk) 19:27, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep both. Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 16:57, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Having read make, I can't see a sense to cover this, so keep. Definitely keep earn a living too Mglovesfun (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:make a living


text:
Talk:earn a living

RFD
RFD kept because of no consensus. See Talk:make a living.

title: Talk:earn a living


text:
Gander

Etymology

 * As an English surname, from the noun.
 * Also as an English surname, spelling variant of, itself related to.
 * As a north surname, from  in Brandenburg.
 * Also as a north German surname, from.
 * As a south German and surname, from.

The town in Newfoundland is named after or, the names of which derive from the noun.

title: Gander


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Talk:redwood

redwood
Adjective, both senses.

I strongly doubt that these are ever used as true adjectives. The adjective-like usage I have examined looks to be attributive use of the noun. DCDuring TALK 19:37, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. The usexes clearly show attributive use of the noun senses. — Ungoliant (Falai) 21:45, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. Equinox ◑ 14:35, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:redwood


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Talk:kick off the team

kick off the team
+ . Direct object not always 'the team' (kick off the committee, kick of the board, etc.) Mglovesfun (talk) 10:40, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. — Ungoliant (Falai) 11:30, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Sadly, I had to add the sense to 'kick off'. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:59, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 17:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Straightforward SoP. bd2412 T 16:10, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:kick off the team


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Talk:Winsock

Winsock
I would have thought that this is a Sae1962 entry, and I was surprised when I looked at the version history to notice it isn't. In any case, you know the drill. -- Liliana • 20:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * No, Sae1962 would have created something like "Winsock attribute binding agent" - but this is a, and we include "all words in all languages". SemperBlotto (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks like a brand to me. DCDuring TALK 21:38, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * We don't even have Windows which should be far more widespread, so... -- Liliana • 21:57, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
 * It is not a brand but an abbreviation. Compare Winmodem (genericised from a trademark) and Wintel (never AFAIK been registered by anyone). Equinox ◑ 16:47, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * "Joe's Grocery Store" may or may not be registered, but it's still a brand. DCDuring TALK 17:11, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

 * But what is brand-like about it? I am pretty sure it originated as a technical abbreviation inside Microsoft for this particular technology and then reached the wider world through a filename (WINSOCK.DLL being the file that held the relevant code). Equinox ◑ 17:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep a single-word entry in the absence of a deletion rationale. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:47, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Equinox ◑ 14:38, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. Pro del: Liliana; pro keep: SemperBlotto, Equinox, Dan Polansky; unclear: DCDuring. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:45, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:Winsock


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Talk:I don't speak Indonesian

I don't speak Russian
Similar entries were deleted as covered by I don't speak English per Talk:I don't speak Bulgarian and Talk:I_don't_speak; I don't speak English was kept. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't speak Russian was restored out of process despite having failed RFD. I deleted it again. -- Liliana • 14:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree, delete. Persian and Indonesian are the only ones left. --Hekaheka (talk) 04:38, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Deleted per the consensus here and per precedent cases. - -sche (discuss) 08:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Stricken out. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:I don't speak Indonesian


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Talk:I don't speak Persian

I don't speak Russian
Similar entries were deleted as covered by I don't speak English per Talk:I don't speak Bulgarian and Talk:I_don't_speak; I don't speak English was kept. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't speak Russian was restored out of process despite having failed RFD. I deleted it again. -- Liliana • 14:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree, delete. Persian and Indonesian are the only ones left. --Hekaheka (talk) 04:38, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Deleted per the consensus here and per precedent cases. - -sche (discuss) 08:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Stricken out. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:I don't speak Persian


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Talk:I don't speak Russian

I don't speak Russian
Similar entries were deleted as covered by I don't speak English per Talk:I don't speak Bulgarian and Talk:I_don't_speak; I don't speak English was kept. --Dan Polansky (talk) 08:18, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't speak Russian was restored out of process despite having failed RFD. I deleted it again. -- Liliana • 14:30, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * And delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete all. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Agree, delete. Persian and Indonesian are the only ones left. --Hekaheka (talk) 04:38, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Deleted per the consensus here and per precedent cases. - -sche (discuss) 08:26, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Stricken out. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:46, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:I don't speak Russian


text: 织女

title: 织女


text:
織女

Noun

 * 1)  weaving girl; weaver girl

Proper noun

 * 1)  Zhinü, the weaver girl; see
 * 2)   Weaving Girl, an asterism in the Chinese constellation

title: 織女


text:
專集

Noun

 * 1) monograph containing works by one author or works on the same subject
 * 2) special collection of works

title: 專集


text: 专集

title: 专集


text: 兆吨

title: 兆吨


text:
走出去

Verb

 * 1) to go global; to implement the Go Out policy

title: 走出去


text:
Talk:duka la vitabu

duka la vitabu
Swahili: bookstore. Not a set phrase; literally means "shop of books" or "shop that has books". —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 17:14, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep assuming this is a common Swahili term for bookstore. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Commonness is not a valid reason for keeping it; idiomaticity is. How is this any more deserving of an entry than duka la vifaru ("rhinoceros shop"), were that to be attestable? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:25, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. Pro deletion: Metaknowledge, pro keeping: Dan Polansky. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:48, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

duka la vitabu
I'm nominating this one again in hopes that more people will comment. It is the Swahili for bookstore, and is not idiomatic IMO; it literally means "shop of books" or "shop that has books". —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:34, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's like Russian, which I also think should be deleted (I remember it being nominated before, but there is nothing on its talkpage). Of course, the English is unfortunately protected by WT:COALMINE. --WikiTiki89 04:42, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per my comments here: "We don't keep SOP terms [in other languages] just because they translate into non-SOP things in English." - -sche (discuss) 06:27, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

 * Keep as a non-English term serving as a common translation of single-word English term; thus, possibly outside of CFI. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:41, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. List translation as . — Ungoliant (falai) 13:39, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep per Dan Polansky. In addition, it is a construction that an English-speaker probably would not be able to deduce, and the plural form makes it even more complex. In Swahili, noun-class accord has a much larger footprint than gender accord does in European languages. —Stephen (Talk) 04:56, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Kept as no consensus. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:00, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

--Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 03:51, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:duka la vitabu


text:
兆噸

Noun

 * 1) megaton

title: 兆噸


text:
Talk:ۅسۉمدۉك

ۅسۉمدۉك
As far as I know, we only accept Kyrgyz entries in Cyrillic script. Should  be added to the module or should we delete this? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:36, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Per WP, Kyrgyz is written in the Arabic script in Xinjiang. Arienne M. Dwyer confirms this, writing in The Xinjiang Conflict on page 22 that "The unique use in Central Asia of an Arabic-based script by Xinjiang's Uyghurs, Kazakhs, and Kyrgyz focused the language-issue discussion inwards and towards Beijing." It has also been written in the Latin script. We should probably make the Cyrillic spelling the lemma, though. - -sche (discuss) 00:53, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:ۅسۉمدۉك


text:
Talk:سارسەنبى

سٵرسەنبٸ
Same situation as above, only this one's Kazakh instead. As above, we already have the Cyrillic script entry (сәрсенбі). —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:48, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

 * Like Kyrgyz, Kazakh is written in the Arabic script in China. It has also historically been written in the Latin alphabet. - -sche (discuss) 00:56, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
 * As I suggested be done to ۅسۉمدۉك, I have converted this entry to a soft redirect to the Cyrillic spelling. Unless you think Arabic-script Kazakh should be banned for some reason, I think this RFD can be withdrawn...? - -sche (discuss) 19:28, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Since when do we do soft redirects for entries in different writing systems? We don't do that for other languages like Serbo-Croatian (and ooh it'd spark a huge editwar if we did!). -- Liliana • 22:59, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I think a soft redirect is better than a hard redirect or deletion in this case. The problem with Kazakh, Kyrgyz and Tatar in Arabic and Roman scripts is that words in these scripts are not regulated by anyone, they are used in chats and some online discussions, sometimes Wikipedia. It's hard to say for sure if that particular form is correct. E.g. Turks have created dictionaries for Tatar language using Roman letters (and using wrong grammatical forms and inconsistent spellings), making similar efforts for Kyrgyz and Kazakh before the changeover to Roman is announced. Try searching for سٵرسەنبٸ online, it's many hits (most are wikis), might as well be an Uighur misspelling or dialectal form, not Kazakh. Don't think I am biased because my native script is Cyrillic.
 * I don't have a very strong opinion on this but this spelling needs to be verified, which is hard. Kazakh and Kyrgyz in the Arabic script are obviously not thriving and there are very few resources. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 06:35, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, this entry uses the official Kazakh Arabic script that is still used in China. I would suppose it isn't used much today on the Internet which is why you won't find many hits, but it does seem to be valid. It uses letters like ٵ or ٸ which do not occur in any language other than Kazakh. -- Liliana • 07:40, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

 * @Liliana: As you know, Serbo-Croatian is a special case; everything about it sparks huge editwars. We do soft-redirect Arabic-script Afrikaans words like كُوْنِڠْ to Latin script, and we soft-redirect some Cyrillic-script Romanian words like доктор (used in Transnistria) to Latin script, and have since at least 2011. OTOH, other Cyrillic Romanian words, like молдовенеск and нє, still have full entries... - -sche (discuss) 08:11, 2 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm doing those Romanian entries now. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:12, 6 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Not to undo your work, but I'm going to switch them to use (especially so that the usage note doesn't end up varying from entry to entry). - -sche (discuss) 21:58, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Kept. - -sche (discuss) 03:13, 12 August 2013 (UTC)
 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:16, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:سارسەنبى


text: 遭报

title: 遭报


text:
雜耍

Noun

 * 1) variety show; variety entertainment

title: 雜耍


text:
遭報

Verb

 * 1) to meet one's nemesis

title: 遭報


text: 杂耍

title: 杂耍


text: 干红

title: 干红


text:
乾紅

Noun

 * 1) red wine made from pure grape juice, without addition of water, spices or alcohol; claret

Noun

 * 1) dark red

title: 乾紅


text:
Talk:check up on

check up on
Same reason as for check into above: IMO, it's check up + on; not a phrase as a whole, but a phrase combined with the beginning of another (prepositional) phrase. Longtrend (talk) 17:12, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Even MWOnline finds this one idiomatic. There may be a UK sense of "check up" that is applicable here as Macmillan has, but that does not carry over to the US. I find the [[check up]] entry suspect, especially as the usex is for check up on. Check on and check up on are nearly synonymous with up adding some sense of thoroughness or completion. DCDuring TALK 21:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep, at least since Merriam-Webster and Macmillan have it. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:check up on


text:
樣式

Noun

 * 1) type; style; pattern

title: 樣式


text: 样式

title: 样式


text: 豫剧

title: 豫剧


text:
Talk:Иосиф Виссарионович Джугашвили

Иосиф Виссарионович Джугашвили
This is like Albert Einstein. We have individual names, but not combined names that refer to individual people. 20:32, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also delete and . --Vahag (talk) 20:48, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I've been speedy deleting this per an amendment to WT:CFI saying that first name + surname combinations aren't allowed. Here's we've also got a middle name I suppose, and the text doesn't mention that possibility. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:56, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
 * It's not a middle name, it's a patronymic. We don't have middle names in this part of the world. Middle names are useless. --Vahag (talk) 21:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

 * The policy banning individual names probably didn't exist when this entry was created, but it exists now (and I support it), so delete. - -sche (discuss) 21:36, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm OK with delete but I'd prefer to have entries for each missing part (including patronymics) and a usex in Джугашвили/Сталин, ჯუღაშვილი/სტალინი before it gets deleted. We don't have Иосиф, Виссарионович, ბესარიონის --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:41, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

 * I would say that the full name entries are of no use for creating these, though. They're speedied now since they obviously fail CFI as per the vote. -- Liliana • 15:39, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:Иосиф Виссарионович Джугашвили


text: 豫劇

title: 豫劇


text: 肴馔

title: 肴馔


text:
餚饌

Noun

 * 1)  sumptuous courses at a meal

title: 餚饌


text:
smalahove

Noun

 * 1) A traditional Norwegian dish made from a sheep's head, originally eaten before Christmas.

title: smalahove


text:
原籍

Noun

 * 1) one's ancestral hometown

title: 原籍


text:
游擊

Verb

 * 1) to engage in guerrilla warfare

title: 游擊


text: 游击

title: 游击


text: Citations:McDunghole

title: Citations:McDunghole


text: Category:en:Newfoundland and Labrador

title: Category:en:Newfoundland and Labrador


text: 遊擊

title: 遊擊


text: Category:Newfoundland and Labrador

title: Category:Newfoundland and Labrador


text:
陰物

Noun

 * 1)  thing with yin
 * 2)  vagina; vulva

title: 陰物


text: 阴物

title: 阴物


text: 押韵

title: 押韵


text:
押韻

Verb

 * 1) to rhyme

Noun

 * 1) rhyming

Verb

 * 1) to rhyme

title: 押韻


text: 腌菜

title: 腌菜


text:
一二

Noun

 * 1) one or two; just a little

title: 一二


text:
永別

Verb

 * 1)  to part forever; to be parted by death

title: 永別


text: 永别

title: 永别


text: 云霄

title: 云霄


text:
雲霄

Noun

 * 1)  sky; heavens

title: 雲霄


text:
Ocimibundu

Noun

 * 1) A member of the southern Mbundu, a Bantu ethnic group living on the Bié Plateau of central Angola and in the coastal strip west of these highlands.

title: Ocimibundu


text: Ovimbundu

title: Ovimbundu


text:
搖搖晃晃

Adjective

 * 1) staggering; vacillating

title: 搖搖晃晃


text: 摇摇晃晃

title: 摇摇晃晃


text:
User:Zerochill

Jereme Tirschmann

title: User:Zerochill


text: 重圆

title: 重圆


text:
重圓

Verb

 * 1) to have a reunion after a long parting

title: 重圓


text:
jebena

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) A kind of coffee pot used in Ethiopia, Eritrea and eastern Sudan.

title: jebena


text: jebenas

title: jebenas


text:
破鏡

Etymology

 * ferocious beast that eats its own father
 * Earliest extant attestation is in . Related to, attested in 《》 Tales of Strange Matters by  Ren Fang.

Noun

 * 1)  broken mirror
 * 2) parting of a married couple
 * 3)  waning moon; quarter moon; half-moon
 * 4)  pojing, a ferocious beast that eats its own father

title: 破鏡


text: 破镜

title: 破镜


text: 选曲

title: 选曲


text:
喜新厭舊

Idiom

 * 1) to love the new and loathe the old; to be fickle in affection

title: 喜新厭舊


text: 喜新厌旧

title: 喜新厌旧


text: Trouty

title: Trouty


text:
相配

Adjective

 * 1) matching; well-matched

Verb

 * 1) to match up; to be a good match; to be well-suited

title: 相配


text: 賢母良妻

title: 賢母良妻


text: 贤母良妻

title: 贤母良妻


text: Citations:McDungheap's

title: Citations:McDungheap's


text:
賢妻良母

Idiom

 * 1) a ; the ideal role for a woman in the traditional Chinese society

title: 賢妻良母


text: 贤妻良母

title: 贤妻良母


text:
Durrell

Etymology
Nickname from a diminutive of.

Statistics

 * According to the 2010 United States Census, Durrell is the 34272nd most common surname in the United States, belonging to 662 individuals. Durrell is most common among White (72.66%) and Black/African American (22.81%) individuals.

title: Durrell


text: 无奇不有

title: 无奇不有


text:
無奇不有

Idiom

 * 1) to be full of strange sights; nothing is too strange in the world

title: 無奇不有


text:
משכן

Etymology
. Compare. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) dwelling, residence (as of a person or organization)

Proper noun

 * 1) the tabernacle
 * 2) * Exodus 26, 12, Leningrad Codex.
 * "he"

- וְסֶרַח הָעֹדֵף בִּירִיעֹת הָאֹהֶל חֲצִי הַיְרִיעָה הָעֹדֶפֶת תִּסְרַח עַל אֲחֹרֵי הַמִּשְׁכָּן׃

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  tabernacle (residence)

title: משכן


text:
McDungheap's

Etymology
.

Proper noun

 * 1)  McDonald's, viewed as a purveyor of low-quality food.

Synonyms

 * see Thesaurus:McDonald's

title: McDungheap's


text:
五毛党

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1)  50 cent army, wumao

title: 五毛党


text: 五毛黨

title: 五毛黨


text: Croque

title: Croque


text: 纨绔

title: 纨绔


text:
紈絝

Noun

 * 1)  silk trousers
 * 2)  sons of the rich

title: 紈絝


text:
我儂

Pronoun

 * 1)  I; me
 * 2)  we; us

title: 我儂


text: 我侬

title: 我侬


text:
童鞋

Noun

 * 1) baby shoes

title: 童鞋


text:
Placentia

Etymology
The town in Newfoundland is likely named after the town of.

title: Placentia


text:
nunchi

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) In Korea, the ability to gauge other people's moods, seen as important in interpersonal relationships.

title: nunchi


text: noonchi

title: noonchi


text:
滔滔

Adjective

 * 1)  torrential; surging
 * 2)  incessant
 * 3)  grand; magnificent

Adjective

 * 1) torrential (of flowing water)
 * 2) voluble (of speech)
 * 3) flowing strongly in one direction (of a matter of the times)

title: 滔滔


text: 汤儿

title: 汤儿


text: 湯兒

title: 湯兒


text:
糖水

Noun

 * 1) sugar water; sugar solution
 * 2)  ; sweet soup a type of Chinese dessert

title: 糖水


text:
Burgeo

Etymology
A corruption of, a originally applied to the.

title: Burgeo


text:
通俗

Adjective

 * 1) understandable and enjoyed by the general public; popular; common; accessible

title: 通俗


text:
Talk:una vez más

una vez más
Not idiomatic, at least to me. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
 * delete per MK -WF

 * Keep. Same with once again/once more, noch einmal, 再次, ещё раз, kerran vielä, مرة اخرى, etc. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 02:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Atitarev, idiomaticity is not uniform over all languages. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * This set expression is an exact equivalent of the few of the above and a few in other languages, including those for which we don't have entries yet. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 11:24, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

What ever is decided, I think otra vez should be treated similarly. There's an unfinished rfd discussion on it about a mile up this page. I'd support keeping both as set expressions. --Hekaheka (talk) 19:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep both. Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 15:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

3 to 1 for "keepers" -> kept. --Hekaheka (talk) 22:16, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:una vez más


text:
Talk:通俗

Also Japanese つうぞく, Korean 통속, Vietnamese thông tục. Wyang (talk) 03:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:通俗


text:
Talk:dx

dx
Sum of parts: + x; just because it has no space in it, does not means it is not two symbols. x just happens to be the most popular variable name. Keφr 07:45, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I would delete both translingual senses. No reason why dx/DX is more dictionary-worthy than five hundred and ten. At 10 should we mention it means two in binary as well? Or sixteen in hexadecimal? Mglovesfun (talk) 18:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I second the move to delete the Roman-numeral sense. There are literally an infinite number of distinct combinations of Roman numerals, and I would expect that a great many are attested. We shouldn't be including entries for most numbers, even special ones like 65536- whether represented using Roman or Arabic numerals. Chuck Entz (talk) 23:42, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
 * What's 65536? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:15, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
 * 2^16, which is the maximum number of possible combinations of 1s and 0s in 2 bytes. It's not as important as it used to be now that characters and address ranges have gotten so much bigger, but I would guess that most programmers who do anything system-related would still recognize it. It was the largest binary "magic number" I could remember to the last digit without checking. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:59, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
 * We have quite a lot of Roman numerals, should we group rfd them? I wouldn't even put these in an appendix as the information isn't linguistic. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:24, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

 * IMO delete. Since I wanted to delete the kept n-dimensional and three-dimensional (and feel the same about ith; see Talk:ith), I gather that I hold a minority position. Equinox ◑ 22:23, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Also dy, dz, dw, dx₁, dx₂, dx₃, dθ, dφ, dr, etc. (Checking on preview... oh, thank goodness: we don't have any of those (in this sense).) —msh210℠ (talk) 06:36, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is d + x. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 06:17, 16 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

RFD discussion: January–December 2020

 * See Talk:9000.

title: Talk:dx


text:
Kippens

Etymology
Etymology. Proposed etymologies include a derivation from an archaic dialectal term meaning "bundle of hides" or an English surname.

title: Kippens


text:
天山

Etymology
(Tengri Tagh).

Proper noun

 * 1) Tian Shan (a mountain range in China and Central Asia)

Proper noun

 * 1) Tian Shan

title: 天山


text:
嘆詞

Noun

 * 1)  interjection; exclamation

title: 嘆詞


text:
Talk:infant mortality rate

infant mortality rate
SOP. mortality rate of infants. Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 02:09, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep. The definition is more specific than that. --Æ&Œ (talk) 02:11, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The thing is, is this specific definition applicable across all countries/cultures? Under one and 1000 live births seem to be a little too specific? Jamesjiao → T ◊ C 02:31, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * For tiny populations, yes, it is not useful. But I do not see how that would destroy the usage’s existence. --Æ&Œ (talk) 02:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * This and the following material is suggestive that we a dealing with a specific standard way of calculating a rate of the mortality of infants:
 * 2011, Mary Zeiss Stange, Carol K. Oyster, Jane E. Sloan, Encyclopedia of Women in Today's World, Volume 1, page 749
 * The infant mortality rate (IMR) is the standard way of measuring infant deaths.
 * The authors say it is standard and subsequently give the same numerator and denominator. (I would have thought that one would have the deaths counted for a period lagged six months after the births to better match the dying population with the population aborning.) DCDuring TALK 03:17, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, mortality rate cover this, it's obvious that infant mortality rate refers to the mortality rate among infants, and we have entries for both. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:54, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep. The coverage, especially for medicine and social science, of shows that this is a standard term indicating a particular definition of 'infant', a particular scale, a particular time period, and a particular accepted mismatch between the population of births and the population in which the deaths occur. DCDuring TALK  13:25, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I would say those are just conventions, the definition of 'infant' for example could be changed at any time. Notice at we don't give specific ages despite it having different legal definitions in different countries. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:48, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. The definition of infant does vary, and the per 1000 part is just a standard way to quote a number for a stat like this in studies of population statistics. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:01, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, it's a standard or conventional meaning within a community, evidenced by use in publications. Why would you want to delete something that is so clearly like an idiom by your own description? We treasure such expressions when it is the linguistics community, the computing community, or certain other communities involved. DCDuring TALK 19:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * You implicitly make the point yourself, it it has a meaning within a community, but then a different meaning in the next community, and the next, and the next. For example do the US and UK define it the same way? What about Canada, Indian, Australia and New Zealand? That's before we consider places that don't use English but can still be written about in English. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:33, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * As with many MWEs that we include, there is a general, vague and unspecific cloud of meanings which I would stipulate for purposes of this discussion to be SoP. Then there is a very specific meaning shared by all those who attempt to publish statistics that can be meaningfully compared. It is this letter group that has created the standard conventional meaning that is attestable. Whether there are others that can be attested, I do not know, but I doubt it. DCDuring TALK 20:45, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Even if I conceded the point (and I don't) so what? Metres per second has a standardized international meaning but isn't includable in a dictionary because it's the sum of its parts. Mglovesfun (talk) 20:49, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The key difference is that there is only one specification of the relevant senses of meter and second and only one way of implementing per, ignoring questions of acceptable approximation. Neither of infant mortality, and rate are well defined, but infant mortality rate is, precisely because it specifies:
 * who is in the class of infants (live-born up to one year in age),
 * that the period is a year, and
 * that the result is to be expressed as a number per thousand per year.
 * DCDuring TALK 22:21, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is a well-established indicator in demography. Read related books. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 15:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. but also mention the SoP meaning (the special meaning is dimensionless). --80.114.178.7 21:29, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:infant mortality rate


text: 叹词

title: 叹词


text:
特邀

Verb

 * 1) to specially invite

title: 特邀


text:
Talk:chronic Lyme disease

chronic Lyme disease
Sum of its parts? (plural looks unlikely) SemperBlotto (talk) 08:38, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * It's a different condition from Lyme disease. It is not long-term untreated Lyme disease infection. -- 76.65.131.217 08:44, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * The Wikipedia article is pretty well sourced so I imagine this is totally genuine. The thing is, according to evidence it isn't Lyme disease that's chronic in nature, it seems to be a misdiagnosis. I suppose in terms of how it's coined it's Lyme disease that's chronic, but current usage is different to that. Keep. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:53, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * Keep for that reason. It seems to be a rather poorly named condition! Equinox ◑ 11:55, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per the misnomer principle. DCDuring TALK 13:09, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion after months since nomination. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:33, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:chronic Lyme disease


text: Pacquet

title: Pacquet


text:
Talk:drastic

drastic
rfd-sense: "Extremely severe or extensive." Seems very similar to "Extreme; severe". So similar in fact it looks as if someone's added a third definition without reading the first two. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:18, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * It will soon be the fifth anniversary of the edit that added the sense. Thanks for reviewing the entry.
 * Delete. DCDuring TALK 23:52, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be deleted.
 * Delete. Aupiff (talk) 05:12, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

deleted -- Liliana • 08:52, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:drastic


text: 歎詞

title: 歎詞


text: emotionalisms

title: emotionalisms


text:
Talk:dolĉa ĉerizo

dolĉa ĉerizo
Sum of parts. dolĉa + ĉerizo. Mr. Granger (talk) 16:08, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, that depends. It says that this means 'cherry (fruit)', and some cherries are sour. If even sour cherries can be called dolcxa cxerizo in Esperanto, and especially if they can be called acida dolcxa czerizo, then it isn't SOP, it's idiomatic. Alternatively, if the correct meaning is not 'cherry (fruit)', but rather  (also called sweet cherry in English) as opposed to the sour cherry Prunus cerasus, then the definition should be fixed, but it still isn't SOP. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 17:05, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, you're right - according to the PIV, it does refer to prunus avium. I've edited the definition to reflect this, and I withdraw the RFD. Mr. Granger (talk) 18:03, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:dolĉa ĉerizo


text:
Talk:𪜚

𪜚 (U+2A71A)
This article appears to have been created by someone who doesn't understand Vietnamese chữ Nôm very well. The article creator seems to assume that a character given the "temporary codepoint" of V+6341E as used by the Nom Foundation with the reading of mươi is equivalent to 𪜚 even though the Unihan Database entry on U+2A71A gives no Vietnamese reading information at all. Also, the article creator had an incorrect IDS (character component notation) entry of "⿰氵⿹乚忄攵" while the correct notation is actually "⿲氵枚乙" (per CHISE Project's IDS-UCS-Ext-C.txt document). It seems like a case of amateur sinology (vietnology?) to me. Note that this article was not part of the original NanshuBot database dumps and is part of Unicode CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C. Bumm13 (talk)
 * Okay, after re-examining things, it looks like the original IDS notation wasn't too far off; I've changed it to "⿰氵⿹乙枚" (per GlyphWiki's entry) and have one "weak" source matching it to the mươi reading (a certain "nom_qn.txt" document). Still can't fully verify it as a numeral but "mươi" does mean "ten" (multiplier word) in modern Vietnamese. I think it's now good enough to at least keep around (for now) but the lack of good sources on this kind of material is a bit frustrating. Bumm13 (talk) 06:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm withdrawing this RFD (if nobody objects) Bumm13 (talk) 03:06, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the research, Bumm13. Kauffner was right about V+6341e mapping to U+2A71A, but mươi in this case doesn't seem to mean ten: the Nôm Lookup Tool gives "mươi, như 'mươi (sương giá)'". Sương giá means frost. So I wonder if this is a literary or archaic term that dictionaries don't tend to give as the meaning of mươi. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 10:01, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:𪜚


text: 生抽

title: 生抽


text: 老抽

title: 老抽


text:
四處

Adverb

 * 1) everywhere; in all directions

title: 四處


text:
Pancasila

Etymology
From. .

Proper noun

 * 1) The official philosophical foundation of the Indonesian state, comprising five principles: belief in the divinity of God; just and civilized humanity; the unity of Indonesia; democracy guided by the inner wisdom in the unanimity arising out of deliberations amongst representatives; and social justice for all of the people of Indonesia.

Translations

 * Hindi: ,
 * Portuguese: Pancasila

Etymology
, +.

Noun

 * : The official philosophical foundation of the Indonesian state, comprising five principles:
 * 1. Belief in the one and only God
 * 2. Just and civilized humanity
 * 3. The unity of Indonesia
 * 4. Democracy guided by the inner wisdom in the unanimity arising out of deliberations amongst representatives
 * 5. Social justice for the whole of the people of Indonesia
 * 1)  Five Precepts

Etymology
From, from +.

Proper noun

 * , the five principles of the Republic of Indonesia, i.e. God the Sole, nationalism, humanitarianism, democracy and social justice.

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * 1)  the official philosophical foundation of the Indonesian state

title: Pancasila


text: 四处

title: 四处


text:
Cupids

Etymology
Derived from a corruption of the surname.

title: Cupids


text:
豎笛

Noun

 * 1)  recorder musical instrument
 * 2)  clarinet

title: 豎笛


text: 竖笛

title: 竖笛


text:
Talk:いくつになっても

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:いくつになっても


text:
Talk:争いが収まる

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:争いが収まる


text:
Talk:夫に良く仕える

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:夫に良く仕える


text:
Talk:神に仕える

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:神に仕える


text:
Talk:護衛を付ける

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:護衛を付ける


text:
Talk:肉が付く

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:肉が付く


text:
Talk:敵に付く

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:敵に付く


text:
Talk:帳簿に付ける

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:帳簿に付ける


text: 声线

title: 声线


text:
Talk:帳面に付いている

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:帳面に付いている


text:
聲線

Etymology
Originally.

Noun

 * 1) a person (singer, voice actor, etc.)'s voice, voice features or quality

title: 聲線


text:
Talk:値段を高く付ける

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:値段を高く付ける


text:
Talk:箱に収まる

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:箱に収まる


text:
Talk:明治天皇の代に

いくつになっても
I assume that entries may be nominated here on the grounds that they do not constitute good phrasebook entries. The category boiler describes the phrasebook entries as "Non-idiomatic phrases in Japanese that are used in common situations, and may be useful to language learners or travellers." This phrase meaning "however old one may be" does not seem to be particularly useful to travelers, and it's not bad for language learners but it's about as helpful as most other non-idiomatic phrases. It's about the same as the English phrase "however old one may be" for learners of English.

In my opinion the phrasebook needs more than just one entry's worth of attention, so while we're at it I'd like to mention these others:

 * 争いが収まる for fighting to be settled (useful only to pugnacious travelers)
 * 行き付けの場所 one's favorite place (this is not especially common)
 * 夫に良く仕える be devoted to one's husband (In years I have never once had occasion to say this)
 * 神に仕える serve god (probably covered by other phrases related to religion, and this is not such a common expression)
 * 護衛を付ける provide with a bodyguard (who uses a bodyguard?)
 * 肉が付く gain weight (this is not so common--people actually say 太る)
 * 敵に付く take the side of the enemy (again for the angry travelers)
 * 帳簿に付ける enter in a book (not so common)
 * 帳面に付いている ditto
 * 伝言を頼まれる be given a message for someone (This was only useful before cell phones, and besides that I have never heard this in my life)
 * 値段を高く付ける put a high price on (not so common)
 * 二君に仕えず not serve two masters (not exactly a useful expression, and the register is formal or literary)
 * 箱に収まる be stored in a box (not very common or useful)
 * 明治天皇の代に under the rule of the emperor Meiji (even if you talk about this sort of thing, this was a long time ago)

Haplogy (話) 15:56, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete all. Some of us would say that just being in the phrasebook qualifies an article for deletion. --WikiTiki89 16:24, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Some don't count. The phrasebook was kept by a vote (Where is it now? Shouldn't be too far away). Phrasebook entries are considered for deletion like any other entry - case by case. As for the entry above - delete. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 12:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't have a strong opinion on phrasebooks in general. I nominated those because in my opinion they fail the criteria of our phrasebooks.  There are many better phrases, the ones which I did not mention above, which you might find in a dead-wood phrase book.  Greetings or common expressions like お疲れ様でした or 頂きます seem appropriate and I am not proposing that they be deleted.  The ones above, however, are neither useful nor common.   I'd say they'd even impede communication more than help it.  Haplogy (話) 14:55, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Move 行き付けの場所 to 行き付け, as you can say 行き付けのカフェ. Keep 二君に仕えず or move it to 二君に仕える. Delete the rest. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:25, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted all uncontested entries. I leave 行き付けの場所 and 二君に仕えず to our wise friend T AKASUGI Shinji, to deal with as he sees fit. Striking as closed. bd2412 T 16:48, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:明治天皇の代に


text:
Keels

Etymology
Etymology. Proposed etymologies include a corruption of the surname, a derivation from the surname , or a derivation from , referring here to the shape of the rocks near the town's harbour.

title: Keels


text:
稍後

Adverb

 * 1) later on; later

title: 稍後


text: 稍后

title: 稍后


text:
Talk:Pearl of Great Price

Pearl of Great Price
Title of a specific work by Joseph Smith, not used generically. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 16:30, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. Equinox ◑ 21:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete SemperBlotto (talk) 08:24, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * We kept 1 Chronicles which I felt was ultimately just the name of a book, albeit a very well-known and culturally important one. From a linguistic point of view, this is no less justifiable. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:13, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * 1 Chronicles is an irregular abbreviated form of the First Book of Chronicles, different from its literal title, so that case is somewhat different. Song of Solomon would serve your argument better. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 06:28, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Comment: The deletion rationale of "not used generically" is a personal one, not part of Wiktionary policies. This particular RFD is governed by WT:CFI, which contains no requirement of "generic use". --Dan Polansky (talk) 19:54, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Just so we're clear that it does not mean "a canonical text in Mormonism" in general, but rather a specific one. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 03:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I know, it is a name of specific entity, like London, New York, Lysistrata (I should create this at some point; it is a comedy), and Betelgeuse. --Dan Polansky (talk) 18:24, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Didn't it.Wikt allow all book titles for a time? I can see why: it's hard to find an objective criterion (other than date of authorship) that excludes Pearl of Great Price from the dictionary but allows the Iliad and Genesis. My inclination is to delete. I'd also question Liber AL vel Legis. OTOH, something like (e.g.) Book of Shadows probably sees enough generic use to merit keeping (Wiccans write things in their personal books of shadows). Perhaps pluralization is a possible criterion: can one refer to multiple copies of the POGP as "Pearls of Great Price(s)", the way multiple copies of the Bible and Iliad are "Bibles" and "Iliads"? - -sche (discuss) 15:26, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is trivially easy to find an unlimited number of objective criteria that differentiate "Pearl of Great Price" and "Iliad" for the purpose of inclusion, albeit irrelevant or uninteresting criteria. An objective criterion that differentiates "Pearl of Great Price" from "Iliad" that I find interesting is that (a) the latter is a single word, and at the same time (b) the single word is not a capitalized common noun optionally prefixed with an article, unlike "The Frogs" by Aristophanes. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:49, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I came across this lexicon (including the word quad as cultural literature lingo, BTW). --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 08:31, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 16:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:Pearl of Great Price


text: 蘇梅醬

title: 蘇梅醬


text: 苏梅酱

title: 苏梅酱


text:
goombay

Etymology
Afro-Caribbean dialects; compare 🇨🇬, a type of drum.

Noun

 * 1)  A type of traditional Bahamian drum.
 * 2)  A genre of folk music played with this drum.
 * 3)  A dance associated with this music genre.

title: goombay


text:
Talk:rock band

rock band
A band that plays rock (see band). I had a go at citing rockband but couldn't, or rather, it might be citable in Dutch and in German as, but the only English citation I could find talks about climbing a rockband - a band of rocks! Mglovesfun (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I think we should keep this term. More analysis is required. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Do tell us when you've done the analysis then. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I will, of course, for the moment I'm just adding my subjective opinion on the term, encouraging others to do the same. Both "rock band" and "rock group" have been borrowed by other languages in full, as one word. I'm surprised if "rockband" is not citable but I haven't checked myself. The term is defined in Collins and other dictionaries. I think it's a word, just don't have any stronger arguments handy, if that's not enough. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:12, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * jazz band was kept, see Talk:jazz band.
 * Keep. --WikiTiki89 23:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, as I have now provided citations for rockband (the musical sense). Cheers! bd2412 T 18:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 21:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

rock group
SoP as above. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. --WikiTiki89 23:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * What's the difference between rock band and rock group?
 * rock group is nothing nothing more than rock + group, rock band on the other hand is a little more idiomatic because band is limited as to which types of music groups it can refer to. --WikiTiki89 00:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 21:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not a group of rocks. Donnanz (talk) 21:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:rock band


text:
Talk:rock group

rock band
A band that plays rock (see band). I had a go at citing rockband but couldn't, or rather, it might be citable in Dutch and in German as, but the only English citation I could find talks about climbing a rockband - a band of rocks! Mglovesfun (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I think we should keep this term. More analysis is required. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Do tell us when you've done the analysis then. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I will, of course, for the moment I'm just adding my subjective opinion on the term, encouraging others to do the same. Both "rock band" and "rock group" have been borrowed by other languages in full, as one word. I'm surprised if "rockband" is not citable but I haven't checked myself. The term is defined in Collins and other dictionaries. I think it's a word, just don't have any stronger arguments handy, if that's not enough. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 00:12, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * jazz band was kept, see Talk:jazz band.
 * Keep. --WikiTiki89 23:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep, as I have now provided citations for rockband (the musical sense). Cheers! bd2412 T 18:31, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 21:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

rock group
SoP as above. Mglovesfun (talk) 19:27, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as above. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. --WikiTiki89 23:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

 * What's the difference between rock band and rock group?
 * rock group is nothing nothing more than rock + group, rock band on the other hand is a little more idiomatic because band is limited as to which types of music groups it can refer to. --WikiTiki89 00:28, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 21:05, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. Not a group of rocks. Donnanz (talk) 21:35, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:rock group


text:
unidolized

Adjective

 * 1) Not idolized.

title: unidolized


text:
unidiotic

Adjective

 * 1) Not idiotic.

title: unidiotic


text:
unmoronic

Adjective

 * 1) Not moronic.

title: unmoronic


text:
Talk:doni akvon

doni akvon
This is a Tbot entry from a translation for "water" (provide animals with water). It doesn't mean anything besides doni + akvon. Mr. Granger (talk) 12:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
 * We've speedy deleted Tbot entries before. In fact deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:39, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:doni akvon


text:
Talk:明くる日

明くる日
SoP. Appropriately enough the entry itself is an example at 明くる. Haplogy (話) 01:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. The distribution of 明くる is very limited and listing all combinations is not a bad idea, as they do on Goo Dictionary. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 01:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. --WikiTiki89 19:24, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Why? The "next day" is normally 次の日 or 翌日 in the reported speech. I agree with Shinji. 明くる is only used with temporal words - the next day, year or dates. 明くる日 is included in a few dictionaries. Keep. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 22:30, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Goo is not a dictionary. Goo is a name used by a company which offers several dictionaries which are licensed to them.  We should be clear about that because of those several dictionaries hosted by Goo, only one, デジタル大辞泉, includes 明くる日.  Incidentally the link was to あくる, not 明くる日.
 * This is a sum of its parts because the first part means "the following" and the second part means "day". This exception to the rule about idiomaticity is new to me but I'll accept it because the term is on 大辞泉, and checking my offline source it's on 広辞苑 and 明鏡 as well, and there are no better dictionaries than those. Haplogy (話) 15:54, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 *  Weak delete   Delete . While it is true that its combinations would be limited with temporal words, I think it is something more productive than set phrases.  You can enlist valid expressions like 明くる1月1日, 明くる10日, 明くる10月, 明くる2014年, ..., infinitely. FWIW, 日本国語大辞典, a dictionary at least as good as 大辞泉 or  広辞苑 in my view, does not include 明くる日. --Whym (talk) 14:52, 9 December 2013 (UTC) Sorry, it does include.  Accordingly I have changed my vote to weak delete. --Whym (talk) 14:59, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Be careful, the nonrestrictive あくる is productive as in you examples while the restrictive あくる is hardly productive. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:56, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
 * am I understanding correctly that the 'restrictive' uses are 明くる日, 明くる年 and 明くる朝, more or less? I tend to agree that the 明くる in these three is hardly separable from the succeeding part; if you strip 明くる from a sentence like 明くる日、私は帰宅した, it will be meaningless. On the other hand, the 明くる in 明くる1月1日、私は帰宅した looks optional (for which we could perhaps add a "Adjective" section into 明くる). --Whym (talk)
 * Yes, exactly. In 明くる日, 明くる cannot be omitted, while in 明くる1月1日 it can be omitted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:27, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reassurance. Changed to keep in light of the above discussion. --Whym (talk) 08:29, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Kept. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

title: Talk:明くる日


text: 秒杀

title: 秒杀


text:
Talk:what hath God wrought

what hath God wrought
If indeed this is idiomatic, I really doubt that the current definition is adequate. As a rhetorical question, it doesn't particularly stand out, but I suppose its use is somewhat non-literal. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * This is best known as the first message chose to send over a long-distance telegraph line (see ), with its biblical source being much less known. I wonder if there's some kind of sense that comes from this. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:16, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep . It is still productive, which is unusual given its archaic wording ("hath" and "wrought"). bd2412 T 04:23, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I have added three citations to the entry showing idiomatic use (particularly the third one, which is a 2011 publication, showing currency of the archaic phrase); note that none of these citations is from the two most obvious sources, those being the biblical passage and the first telegraph message. In other words, this is a set phrase that is used entirely outside of its historical context to convey meaning not immediately apparent from the phrase itself. As noted below, I have also adjusted the definition, per Μετάknowledge. bd2412 T 16:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as redefined and cited. DCDuring TALK 16:53, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like a keeper as currently defined. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:06, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as redefined and cited. --Dmol (talk) 20:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Kept. —msh210℠ (talk) 18:16, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:what hath God wrought


text:
秒殺

Verb

 * 1)  to "seckill"; to kill an enemy within seconds
 * 2)  to buy something as soon as it is put on sale

Noun

 * 1)  seckilling

Verb

 * 1)  seckill, kill within seconds

title: 秒殺


text:
Talk:to n decimal places

to n decimal places
One of those "placeholder" entry titles, where n stands for a variable. Adequately covered by the definition and usage example at decimal place, I would think. Equinox ◑ 15:41, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:04, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. --WikiTiki89 19:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Nitpick, not really relevant. Surely not only real numbers can have decimal places as stated. What about 1.1i? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:45, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * If this expression could be shown to be used outside the context of numbers or figuratively in a numerical context to mean something like "with as much precision as may be demanded" or "to a spurious level of precision", it would certainly be metaphorical which puts it well on the way to being idiomatic. Move to RfV (attestation unlikely, IMO). DCDuring TALK 12:15, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

 * How would you write 1.1i to any number of decimal places, since you can't get rid of the i part? Equinox ◑ 12:10, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Is this question for me? If so, I don't understand. Mglovesfun (talk) 23:25, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

 * 1.1i is really 1.1 multiplied by i. The decimal places only have anything to do with the "1.1" part, which is a real number. --WikiTiki89 23:31, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, or redirect to [[decimal places]]. —msh210℠ (talk) 22:11, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. —msh210℠ (talk) 06:23, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:to n decimal places


text:
Talk:give a blowjob

give a give a blowjob
SoP, as would be give a kiss, give a hug, give a hickey, etc. Translation table can be moved to fellate something suitably slangy, like suck off. Equinox ◑ 20:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * It seems idiomatic to me. Anyway, I fixed, added and copied the translations to [[suck off]]. It looks it's not going to survive this RFD. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 22:38, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete. --WikiTiki89 20:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, IMO. Just a hard thing to translate. Ƿidsiþ 20:20, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * How is that relevant? Mglovesfun (talk) 21:44, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Because it suggests idiomaticity. Ƿidsiþ 06:51, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I dispute that. Being harder to translate doesn't suggest idiomaticity. CFI doesn't mention it. As Equinox points out, there are synonyms which are undeniable includable like suck off which can house translations. Mglovesfun (talk) 12:13, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Furthermore, difficult to translate is really more a question of how good you are at translating. It's easy to translate if you know the translation, you just have to recall it. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:59, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as sum of parts. --Dmol (talk) 20:37, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete, "give" is fungible here. bd2412 T 22:33, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. DCDuring TALK 12:04, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm for delete, it's a sop. Just out of curiosity - what would qualify as "other phallic object"? Would an intense sucking of an ice cream stick count as "giving a blowjob"? --Hekaheka (talk) 16:07, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Web example: "blonde cutie gives dildo a blowjob". Equinox ◑ 17:21, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

 * Delete per nom. it's not just "give" that is fungible; one can also "give someone a gobby" (see the citations at gobby) or presumably other synonyms. - -sche (discuss) 17:28, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom (and bd2412), or redirect to blowjob. —msh210℠ (talk) 22:09, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 16:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

title: Talk:give a blowjob


text:
Bobo Ashanti

Proper noun

 * 1) A Jamaican religious group, one of the.

title: Bobo Ashanti


text:
松香

Noun

 * 1) rosin

title: 松香