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Talk:Yankee Doodle

Claim is not supported
The entry states: "During the aftermath of the Siege of Yorktown, the surrendering British soldiers looked only at the French soldiers present, refusing to pay the American soldiers any heed. The Marquis de Lafayette was outraged, and ordered his band to play "Yankee Doodle" in response to taunt the British"

It gives a link to a PBS site. The PBS site does not support this claim. Instead, it says this

"Contemporary accounts are certain, however, of the importance "Yankee Doodle" had in the ceremony. Henry Knox, Washington's chief of artillery, says that the British band was specifically not allowed to play the song. The Marquis de Lafayette writes that the French army played the song to "discomfort" the British as they marched from the fort between the French and Americans." https://www.pbs.org/ktca/liberty/popup_songs.html

Please, correct the erroneous claim!Mwidunn (talk) 01:06, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

Orphaned content
I believe there are other verses to this song, one particularly concerns connections to Cape Cod. talking about going to Aunt Hettie's house and the house of Grandma Chase. Aunt Hettie may have been Mehitable Crosby Nickerson of Orleans and Grandma Chase may have been the mother of Ebenezer Chase of Harwich or Dennis, who was one of the two fifers from Cape Cod who served in the Revolutionary War. Does anybody know the words to this verse? I believe it was used during the bicentennial by members of the Cape Cod Militia. Thanks, Gail Nickerson

Here are lyrics that include the word "macaroni" in the song "Yankee Doodle"

Yankee Doodle came to town, A-ridin' on a pony; stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni.

Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle Dandy; Mind the music and the steps And with the girls be handy.

Father and I went down to camp, Along with Cap'n Goodwin; The men and boys all stood around As thick as hasty puddin'.

Yankee Doodle keep it up, Yankee Doodle Dandy; Mind the music and the steps And with the girls be handy.

Interestingly, the Wikipedia Yankee Doodle article linked to from the Wikipedia Macaroni article does not mention this version of these lyrics. LarryW 02:54, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * Until today.... -- Bevo 03:58, 26 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * I can't find a reference, but I recollect reading that "macaroni" was soldier's slang for the gold braid on officer's uniforms of the period. Makes more sense in this context - Yankee Doodle doesn't have a real uniform with gold braid, just a feather in his cap.  Makes more sense gramatically too if macaroni is a specific object rather than a fashion.  Toiyabe 23:15, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Content copied from Straight Dope?
It looks like much of this article was copied from The Straight Dope, including the typo of "larde" for "large", which I have just corrected. Is there a risk of copyright violation here? http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/myankeedoodle.html

Jeffr 14:01, May 27, 2005 (UTC)

No —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.63.188.33 (talk) 19:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)

About Macaroni
According to "Merriam-Webster's Word of the Day" [(c) 2006 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated] : (paraphrased) The 2nd, obsolete meaning of macaroni was " a) a member of a class of traveled young Englishmen of the late 18th and early 19th centuries who affected foreign ways; b) an affected young man : fop". Quote: "As you may have suspected, the "macaroni" in the song "Yankee Doodle"    is not the familiar food. The feather in Yankee Doodle's cap     apparently makes him a macaroni in the now rare "fop" or "dandy"     sense. The sense appears to have originated with a club established in     London by a group of young, well-traveled Englishmen in the 1760s. The     founders prided themselves on their appearance, sense of style, and     manners, and they chose the name Macaroni Club to indicate their     worldliness. Because macaroni was, at the time, a new and rather     exotic food in England, the name was meant to demonstrate how stylish     the club's members were. The members were themselves called     "macaronis," and eventually "macaroni" became synonymous with "dandy"     and "fop."

I'd say the statement in the article that reads "The joke being that the Yankees are stupid enough to believe that a feather in the hat is sufficiently spiffy to gain entry to Macaroni." is just another example of guesses and theories presented as fact on Wikipedia... (Note in the quote above how professional authors _qualify_ their statements.)

p.s. Any other references besides the Library of Congress webpage on whether it's "Cap'n Goodwin" or "Captin Good'in" ? - Libertas 04:47, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Agreed - The section about the club should be removed unless it can be well verified. I'll make the change so this reads closer to what's in the description of macaroni (fashion).

More regarding the history
Шизомби 04:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Please edit to include more complete versions of Yankee doodle.
I came across this article while doing some research on Yankee Doodle for my American Wars class. It does not appear to be as complete as it could be because it is lacking several versions. I will leave the editing to more experienced folks because I am afraid of committing some infraction of rules regarding editing. Here are the sources for more complete versions of Yankee Doodle and also brief explanations:

 * 1. Complete version of the "Early Version" The date for the earliest version should be 1758.
 * 2. The true 1775 lyrics of Yankee Doodle
 * 3. Lyrics to the 1775 Loyalist version of Yankee Doodle with comments on specific verses

Macaroni and Dandy references
Would the support for Macaroni, as is implied by the Macaroni link not be supported by the second line of the second verse (i.e. "Yankee Doodle Dandy"? This could be evidence that the reference is to Yankee Doodle's Dandyism and hence sticking a feather in his cap to be part of the Macaroni club and calling it Macaroni.

"Full House" reference & Barney? Vandalism?
The Full House reference looks bogus. I don't think there was a "Derek" on the show, and those are just the lyrics to Yankee Doodle Dandy. Also, the reference to Barney is odd. Cleanup? Bigmac31 15:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

The Full House reference was not vandalism. Derek was one of Michelle's friends and they had a school play about America. If you want to take it down, you'll have to find a better reason than "Vandalism?" Leaving the Barney version up but taking this down is inconsistent. Papercrab 01:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Full House again
By an incredible quirk of fate, I saw the Full House episode alluded to. It has to do with a patriotic school show put on my Michelle's school (Mary Kate/Ashley). It is of course too cute. One of her schoolmates sings "Yankee Doodle Dandy." But still, that's it. He just sings that song. The notes about Barney and Roger Ramjet are ok because they DID appropriate the melody for their themes. But this one is still spurious. Bigmac31 17:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

anti-hitler variant
This version by The Firesign Theatre pops up frequently with Fortune_(Unix). Is is noteworthy enough to add to the article?
 * Yankee Doodle came to term,
 * Writing Martin Buber,
 * Stuck a Fuehrer in the back
 * And called it Schikelgruber! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Frotz (talk • contribs) 09:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC).

 * Absolutely. I have found a multitude of references on the web.
 * Metro Lyrics with complimentary Ringtone
 * KO Video
 * There are a multitude of additional references via Google Search if none of these are significant enough to warrant inclusion.
 * I believe that this was from the How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're Not Anywhere At All album
 * --Tralfaz (Ralraz, yech) (talk) 19:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * --Tralfaz (Ralraz, yech) (talk) 19:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Children's version
The way I learned the refrain in kindergarten was:

 * Yankee Doodle ha ha ha!
 * Yankee Doodle dandy,
 * All the lassies are so sweet,
 * As sweet as sugar candy.

(Whoever thought that one up had a filthy mind.) Kostaki mou 02:40, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm too dense to see it... Doops | talk 04:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

 * I refer to "ha ha ha" instead of "keep it up!" Kostaki mou 02:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I would like to see the citation or source of the "yankee doodle round the world/ sweet as sugar candy". I have never heard those lyrics. I always thought it was "mind your manners and your step/ and let the girls be handy", but "mind the music and the step/and with the girls be handy" sounds alright too. It's a shame if kids today can't learn the legit version of the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asod001 (talk • contribs) 04:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

Fort Crailo
The song Yankee Doodle Dandy was first written at Fort Crailo, in what is today the city of Rensselaer, New York. Today Fort Crailo is on both the state and national historic registers for that very reason. It was written as an insult during the French and Indian Wars by the local Dutch-decendents about the Connecticut militia that came up to be stationed at Fort Crailo. This is fact, and should be added to this article. I know that Connecticut has a long history with being associated with "Yankee" but its my belief that this shouldnt be an article labelled as being part of the wikiproject-Connecticut seeing as how the song wasnt written in Ct. and Yankee now means anyone from the northern US or even from anywhere in the US and not just someone from Ct. I feel it takes away a piece of history and pride of NY and of Fort Crailo.Camelbinky 12:54, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What's the evidence in support of that claim? Baseball Bugs 12:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
 * One reason that its part of wikiproject-Connecticut is because its the state song. That's usually justification enough. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.67.97.194 (talk) 16:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Check the article on Fort Crailo and History of Albany, New York. Go to google or google books and check for "yankee doodle house" "yankee doodle dandy" or "fort crailo" and you will probably find more independent sources for Fort Crailo being the place of origin for the song than any other theory on this page.Camelbinky (talk) 06:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Have no clue
I am all for the post which consists with the topic macaroni and the macaroni club,for I too have read about the dealings with the exotic ffod thing. The Feather is quite important and everyone has perhaps worn one i definetly agree with also, Though for the The History Buffing isn't also a little bit about heritage and Old Ancient values. There was a King whom Invented this Feather wearing and perhaps had something to do with his female and then again maybe it wasn't about her. A Dandy for sure wore those excellent clothing apparel and huge top hats, and it is i think a mixture of speaking such as Hello Daddy, responce how is everything. responce Everything is just Dandy. Then it was the son's turn; perhaps in a different tune The Doodle perhaps may be a recognition of doing it right and not so much as of a clown or fool type. For insteance a Yankee a grouping of, in wich were allowed to do something by approval this was the attraction of a personage whom asked for obedience and was refered to get with this answer.YES AND KEEP IT Y-AN-KEE perhaps came from each other making fun of each other through time perhasp cashual. The British Brigades did play the Tune in Memory and while doing stayed close to the rear for the aprouch was silent but deadly and as when the Lance was then used for qietness as well. The tune now may be heard with some formation a beep or fol. a lance also may be within the folding of something wich was used though now is used in the position of the pole of lance and clled perhaps a flag, the lance when gather round about and when the sun gleems from it puts a light into the folded flag , when the proportion is almost tucked the Lanceibg is then within brought back and stabled to an upright position. God Day 6:10 P.M. E.S.T. David George DeLancey (talk) 22:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Try again, in English. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 22:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

British/American song
I've changed it to read as British song rather than American as all sources I've seen, including this page, point towards its origin amongst British soldiers during the Seven Years War.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 21:05, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm surprised no Americans have come looking for you for this. Perhaps we could say its a song of British origin. Clearly Americans adopted it, so its not really British anymore.--Sabrebd (talk) 00:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I think the current text describes the situation fairly well now, originally British but widely adopted by Americans. National ownership of songs is always a complex thing but I'm not sure I'd agree it isn't British anymore. Americans have adopted it, but its still widely known and played in Britain. The British haven't relinquished it.

 * It seemed inaccurate as it was before, which is why I changed it. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 00:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * During the Seven Years War, the colonists *were* British. They were just longer-term residents.  It is certainly now very American indeed, and has been for a longer time than there has been a United States of America.- sinneed (talk)
 * Changed to British/American. Thoughts?- sinneed (talk) 02:58, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Doodle
Here is the original, rude, English meaning, with refs cited you can read. The English don't always use proper English, especially when saying something rude, like calling us "yankee doodles." Where do you think "Give 'em the raspberries!" came from? ("Raspberry tart" rhymes with "fart.") Much of American, Australian, and modern English was once English slang. I've put the definitions in my edit notes. What more do you want? Yet more academic citations? It is not synthesis to conclude the obvious. What does "yankee doodle" mean apart from "OBSCENE ONOMASTICS ..." in the very title of one of the refs cited? -74.162.156.72 (talk) 02:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

,similar to the [[Yiddish]] "[[schmuck]]" in double meaning,

 * How does this add value to an encyclopedic article about a song?
 * It is vulgar and seems off-topic.
 * The wp:burden is on the individual adding the content. I see that it is sourced.  I oppose its addition.- sinneed (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Chopped Civil war bit
Flagged since Jan 2009, no obvious source.

During the American Civil War, Southerners added some new lines of their own:

 * Yankee Doodle went to town
 * A-riding on a pony
 * Stuck a feather in his hat
 * And called it macaroni.

 * Chorus:
 * Yankee Doodle, keep it up
 * Yankee Doodle dandy
 * Mind the music and the step
 * And with the girls be handy.

 * Father and I went down to camp
 * Along with Captain Gooding
 * And there were all the men and boys
 * As thick as hasty pudding.

 * Chorus

 * There was Captain Washington
 * Upon a slapping stallion
 * A-giving orders to his men
 * I guess there was a million.

 * Chorus

- sinneed (talk) 22:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

incautious in personal habits
"incautious in personal habits" - This is very much not correct. Perhaps something like "whose ideas of sophisticated appearance and behaviour are quite quaint" or something. He puts a feather in his cap and thinks he is dressed foppishly ("calls it macaroni").- sinneed (talk) 02:56, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Since "doodle" means (among other things) "penis", to what activity do you think it is that "yankee doodle" refers? ...at the very least, an uncouth, public repositioning (euphemistically called "dressing" oneself by tailors, something never to do in public), and, at the very worst possible meaning, well, ... masturbation. Being considered to be (or, worse, to be expected to be) yanking one's doodle, in whichever way intended, pretty much kills any hope of great expectations in polite society. -74.242.252.203 (talk) 05:30, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Well if you can find a wp:RS that says that is what "yankee doodle" means, please share. "doodle" is also used to mean "a piece of feces".  It also means the little scribbles one "doodles" on bits of paper when bored.  Should we infer that "yankee doodle" means going about with a crumpled bit of paper with scrawls on it, tugging?  I think we can count on not having such a source appear, but I am certainly interested, to say the least.- sinneed (talk) 05:35, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Assuming that you are attempting to say that "yankee doodle" means "masturbation", that is not supporting "incautious in personal habits".- sinneed (talk) 05:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * I just discovered this is part of the same PoV push. Dropped it from the lead.  It needs a clear wp:Reliable source, one that does not rely on unpublished synthesis.- sinneed (talk) 05:50, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Continuing from above, do you deny that "doodle" means both "fool" and "penis", just like "schmuck"? (If so still, read the refs you've deleted, searching on "doodle", and note that "schmuck" follows immediately in one of them.) Assuming you grant that it does, how is it unacceptable synthesis to say "yankee doodle", as a name, refers to someone yanking his doodle? (Whether repositioning or masturbating, it's certainly incautious to be found out, certainly personal, and most likely a habit.) -MBHiii (talk) 18:12, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * "how is it unacceptable synthesis to say "yankee doodle", as a name, refers to someone yanking his doodle?" - Because it is unpublished synthesis as more than one experienced editor has explained. If you find a wp:RS the makes that synthesis, then it could certainly be included.  But I have very high confidence that isn't going to happen.- sinneed (talk) 18:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yankee doodle / masturbation

 * Here below is yet more. Isn't it deliberately obtuse to deny what the two words, used together, clearly mean? -MBHiii (talk) 20:10, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Yankee Doodle - popular tune of the Amer. Revolution, apparently written c.1755 by British Army surgeon Dr. Richard Schuckburgh while campaigning with Amherst's force in upper New York during the French and Indian War. The original verses mocked the colonial troops serving alongside the regulars, and the Doodle element just may have been, or hinted at, the 18c. slang term for "penis." The song naturally was popular with British troops in the colonies, but after the colonials began to win skirmishes with them in 1775, they took the tune as a patriotic prize and re-worked the lyrics. The current version seems to have been written in 1776 by Edward Bangs, a Harvard sophomore who also was Minuteman. - Online Etymology Dictionary, © 2001 Douglas Harper - "Yankee Doodle." Online Etymology Dictionary. Douglas Harper, Historian. retrieved 11 Sep. 2009. . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbhiii (talk • contribs) 20:51, 11 September 2009
 * Well. I think you mean:

 * Mr. Harper's site is very interesting, and I enjoy his opinions, and I confess this one is new to me. wp:SELFPUB doesn't seem to apply, reading the Wikipedia article about the site. It seems to support your idea of including "pulling the pud" as one possible meaning, but doesn't seem to support anything I removed from the article, so I am somewhat mystified.  What do you propose?- sinneed (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC) - edit I wasn't clear about what article.  - sinneed (talk) 21:25, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Restore "04:38, 11 September 2009 Mbhiii (talk | contribs)" at least to show the double meaning of doodle and that using the same slang words for both "fool" and "penis" is not unique to English. MBHiii (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The content removed does not rest on the background shown. So I oppose.  Perhaps other interested editors will join in.
 * But instead of waiting, why not propose content that is based on the source at Yankee Doodle if you want to include it? The fact that I don't wp:LIKE it doesn't have any bearing by whether it deserves a mention... but there has not been such a mention before, so none can be restored.- sinneed (talk) 04:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Could yankee doodle be 'yank ye doodle' originally when the british were using it to make fun of americans? Could it be related to jerking off/a jerk? And what does "keep it up" and "And with the girls be handy." mean? It sounds like a bawdy tavern song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.129.48.229 (talk) 10:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

 * That could be the derivation, but speculation here is pointless. We need sources. HiLo48 (talk) 10:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

"The 'lasses they eat it every day." What are the lasses eating? I hope it's hasty pudding and not something else. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.129.48.229 (talk) 10:25, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

diminutive fellow
"such a diminutive fellow would want to take on Lil, until Pete 'yanked his tool ..." - "Lady Lil" from journalist Eugene Field (1850-95) or "oral tradition". - Ronald L. Baker, "Lady Lil and Pisspot Pete." Journal of American Folklore, 1987.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mbhiii (talk • contribs) 20:51, 11 September 2009
 * This just seems random vulgarity. Is there a point here?- sinneed (talk) 21:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Vulgarities are expressed in dizzying arrays of possibilities, for instance "verb a noun." Noun=doodle is established already. Verb=yank is demonstrated above. Therefore "yank a doodle" is just as possible a vulgar expression as "pull a pud" (the former gets 3 times the Google hits as the latter). MBHiii (talk) 21:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Then please don't. wp:talk - This is not for general discussion of language peculiarities.  Either the published wp:Reliable sources will have already reached the conclusion or it doesn't matter to WP.  Please focus on the content.- sinneed (talk) 04:11, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Sample media is not the standard version of the tune
The Carrie Rehkopf version of the song available on the page is quite musical, but seems to be nonstandard. In the chorus, the 7th note of the scale is lowered, effectively modulating to the subdominant. I've never heard this done before, and it doesn't agree with the sheet music shown on the page.

-- Andrew Myers (talk) 22:55, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

In the 1963 edition of the World Book Encyclopedia, the sheet music in the article on Yankee Doodle also has the lowered seventh. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thinkatron (talk • contribs) 05:19, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

"Dirty" verses
Here are two verses I learned as a teenager, that were claimed to date from the Revolutionary War era:
 * Yankee Doodle went to town,
 * And climbed upon a steeple,
 * Sat up there the live-long day,
 * And pissed all over the people.

 * Yankee Doodle went to sea,
 * Aboard a Cutty clipper,
 * Filled his ass with broken glass,
 * And circumcised the skipper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.5.11.63 (talk) 02:49, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

The music and words go back to 15th century Holland, as a harvesting song that began, "Yanker dudel doodle down." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.181.135.158 (talk) 12:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

feminine Americans ?
Is this an assumption made by the contributor? "The Macaronis adopted feminine mannerisms, and the men were deemed 'effeminate.' Thus, the British were insinuating that the colonists were womanish and not very masculine[6]." I read this on a website: "The Macaroni wig was an extreme fashion in the 1770s and became contemporary slang for foppishness. The implication of the verse was therefore probably that the Yankees were so unsophisticated that they thought simply sticking a feather in a cap would make them the height of fashion." If this is correct, then the British were insinuating that the Americans were country bumpkins who didn't understand European fashion, not that the British saw americans as feminine/woman-like.

Also: "Jan-Kees": dutch word for New Englanders moving into Dutch-settled land - Yankee = "yancey" native american word for white man — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.129.48.229 (talk) 10:05, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Look out for the " Welsh Wig " headgear of American Colonials with feathers stuck in it
I must apologise for just dropping in like this but I was referring to " Yankee Doodle Dandies " and linking to this thread in an email and I think that it is worthwhile encouraging those researching it to consider this angle. The common head gear of sailors, poor colonials and slaves in America were various varieties of woolen cap especially Monmouth Caps which were manufactured in bulk for export e.g. Washington ordered them for his slaves. The gist of the argument is that when the colonial proprietors etc wanted to raise support amongst those not due to be made to be taxpayers they came up with the idea that this common headgear of poorer people and slaves was the equivalent of the woolen hat bestowed upon a freed slave in ancient Roman and Greek ceremonies, and presumeably paraded around therein on poles thus the popular symbol was born of Republican Liberty. Many people sported caps which they may have made themselves but were after a pattern called a " Welsh Wig " which was the sort of thing a peasant or sailor with access to short lengths of threads might make : loose ends stuck out of the cap all over it and hence the argument that this was akin to the wigs worn by the Macaroni or rather by British aristocratic officers who were thus mocked as effeminate in contrast to the sturdy colonials who lived in the rough and fought their own battles " like real men." These in turn may have had feathers stuck in them by surreptitious way of proclaiming to the British forces that the people sporting them counted themselves to be natives - as they did in the Boston Tea Party. Nice theory if anybody can find some contemporary evidence : there certainly are portraits of the original American revolutionary leaders sporting woolly hats and poles ... e.g. the engrosser of the Declaration of Independence Timothy Matlack is depicted by Charles Wilson Peale with the pole and cap http://www.calligraphersguild.org/penmen.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Willson_Peale ... but not a Welsh Wig - http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/tricorne.htm - see illustration near bottom - http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/images/H-Thrum.jpg - then stick a feather in it - and imagine these thrum caps made to the French Canadian ' Voyageur ' pattern too perhaps - http://sallypointer.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=270&osCsid=ae96c611d6ba1d4e6effa3583cde113a -  http://sallypointer.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41&products_id=266 - and have an interesting discussion DaiSaw (talk) 12:09, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

"Uncle Sam"
Am curious why no mention, or inclusion, of the "Uncle Sam" stanza as mentioned in the Uncle Sam Wikipedia article? 2600:8800:785:8500:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 02:19, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Diss track?
I read that this song is an insult to Americans. Would that make this a diss track? Cganuelas (talk) 21:20, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

"All the lassies are so smart / and sweet as sugar candy"
This was the second half of the chorus as I learned it in school. Any info on this version? Romomusicfan (talk) 09:37, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Geographical Matter
"...well known across western Europe, including England, France, Netherlands, Hungary, and Spain."

Someone correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't believe Hungary is located in western Europe.

Also, the sentence references as a source another Wikipedia article. 24.62.224.22 (talk) 04:06, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

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Robert Brackenbury

Sir Robert Brackenbury (died 22 August 1485) was an English courtier, who was Constable of the Tower of London during the reign of Richard III. He is believed to have been responsible for enabling the (presumed) murders of the Princes in the Tower, though there is no conclusive evidence to prove it. He died defending the King at the Battle of Bosworth Field in 1485.

Early life
His date of birth is unknown. He was a younger son of Thomas Brackenbury of Denton, County Durham, England. This was a family which had been known in Durham since the end of the 12th century. They were lords of the manors of Burne Hall, Denton and Saleby. Robert inherited Saleby; in the immediate vicinity of Barnard Castle. Barnard Castle had passed to the Duke of Gloucester (later Richard III) in the right of his wife, Anne Neville in about 1474. Richard III and Brackenbury, were therefore, close neighbours. Indeed, a tower of Barnard Castle is still called Brackenbury Tower.

Royal service
Brackenbury was one of Richard III's close associates. He was treasurer of Richard's household when he was Duke of Gloucester. When King Edward died Brackenbury was almost certainly one of the Northerners who accompanied Richard to London. Shortly after Richard took the throne Brackenbury received a number of appointments, including Constable of the Tower of London. After the collapse of the Buckingham Revolt he was rewarded with large grants of land in the south-east of England forfeited by Rivers and the Cheney family and in 1484 was appointed sheriff of Kent.

Brackenbury remained Constable of the Tower and on 17 July 1483 he was appointed Constable of the Tower for life. He was also given the very lucrative post of Master of the King's Moneys and Keeper of the Exchange, that is, Master of the Mint after the execution of William Hastings, 1st Baron Hastings, the previous incumbent. Many other honours and duties were laid on him. In March 1485 he was entrusted with Richard's bastard son, John of Gloucester, whom he took to Calais to become its captain. In May he was placed in command of the defence of London. His income must have exceeded £500 per year – more than many Barons. He must have been better rewarded than all but three or four of the household. Between August 1484 and January 1485 he was knighted.

Brackenbury seems to have been a man of popularity and wide learning. The Italian poet Pietro Carmeliano, dedicated one of his Latin works to him.

Brackenbury and the Princes in the Tower
As Constable of the Tower of London, Brackenbury inevitably figures in any account of the fate of Richard III's nephews, the Princes in the Tower.

For example, in Thomas More's version of the life of Richard III, More says that after the coronation on 6 July 1483 and while on his way to Gloucester, Richard sent John Green to Brackenbury with written orders for Brackenbury to kill the princes. Brackenbury, says More, replied "that he would never put them to death, though he should die therefore". So Richard then ordered Sir James Tyrrell to go to Brackenbury with a letter by which he was commanded to deliver to Sir James all the keys of the Tower for one night, "to the end he might there accomplish the King's pleasure".

Although Thomas More seems to have written a rather convincing account of the events during the reign of Richard III, it should not be relied on wholeheartedly. Thomas More was only 7 years old during the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

Tudor invasion and death
In 1485, when news arrived that Henry Tudor had landed in Wales he was ordered to escort Lords Hungerford and Bourchier to Leicester but en route they escaped.

When Richard III marched against the invader, Brackenbury hurried himself to reach the King and arrived two days before the Battle of Bosworth Field (22 August 1485), in which – according to Molinet and Lindsay – he had joint command of Richard's vanguard; he took part in the final charge on Henry and was killed by Sir Walter Hungerford of Farleigh fighting beside Richard III.

On 7 November 1485, Brackenbury was posthumously attainted by Henry VII. In a document antedating Henry Tudor's rule, Brackenbury was charged with having "assembled to them at Leicester ... a great host, traitorously intending, imagining and conspiring the destruction of the king's royal person, our sovereign liege lord".

Brackenbury's attainder was partly reversed in 1489 in favour of his sisters and bastard son, allowing them to recover the family lands but not the new grants from Richard III. Ralph, his nephew and heir male inherited Saleby.

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Benny Carter

Bennett Lester Carter (August 8, 1907 – July 12, 2003) was an American jazz saxophonist, clarinetist, trumpeter, composer, arranger, and bandleader. With Johnny Hodges, he was a pioneer on the alto saxophone. From the beginning of his career in the 1920s, he worked as an arranger including written charts for Fletcher Henderson's big band that shaped the swing style. He had an unusually long career that lasted into the 1990s. During the 1980s and 1990s, he was nominated for eight Grammy Awards, which included receiving a Lifetime Achievement Award.

Career
Carter was born in New York City in 1907. He was given piano lessons by his mother and others in the neighborhood. He played trumpet and experimented briefly with C-melody saxophone before settling on alto saxophone. In the 1920s, he performed with June Clark, Billy Paige, and Earl Hines, then toured as a member of the Wilberforce Collegians led by Horace Henderson. He appeared on record for the first time in 1927 as a member of the Paradise Ten led by Charlie Johnson. He returned to the Collegians and became their bandleader through 1929, including a performance at the Savoy Ballroom in New York City.

In his early 20s, Carter worked as arranger for Fletcher Henderson after that position was vacated by Don Redman. He had no formal education in arranging, learning by trial and error, getting on his knees and looking at the existing charts, "writing the lead trumpet first and the lead saxophone first—which, of course, is the hard way. It was quite some time that I did that before I knew what a score was."

He left Henderson to take Redman's former job as leader of McKinney's Cotton Pickers in Detroit. In 1932, he formed a band in New York City that included Chu Berry, Sid Catlett, Cozy Cole, Bill Coleman, Ben Webster, Dicky Wells, and Teddy Wilson. Carter's arrangements were complex. Among the most significant were "Keep a Song in Your Soul", written for Henderson in 1930, and "Lonesome Nights" and "Symphony in Riffs" from 1933, both of which show Carter's writing for saxophones.

By the early 1930s, Carter and Johnny Hodges were considered the leading alto saxophonists. Carter also became a leading trumpet soloist, having rediscovered the instrument. He recorded extensively on trumpet in the 1930s. Carter's short-lived Orchestra played the Harlem Club in New York but only recorded a handful of records for Columbia, OKeh and Vocalion. The OKeh sides were issued under the name The Chocolate Dandies.

In 1933, Carter participated in sessions with British composer/musician Spike Hughes, who visited New York City to organize recordings with prominent African American musicians. These 14 sides plus four by Carter's big band, titled at the time Spike Hughes and His Negro Orchestra, were initially only issued in England. The musicians were from Carter's band and included Red Allen, Dicky Wells, Wayman Carver, Coleman Hawkins, J. C. Higginbotham, and Chu Berry.

Carter moved to London and spent two years as arranger for the BBC Big Band. In England, France, and Scandinavia he recorded with local musicians, and he took his band to the Netherlands. In these settings, Carter played trumpet, clarinet, piano, alto and tenor saxophone, and provided occasional vocals. In 1938, he recorded in Paris with Django Reinhardt I'm Coming Virginia and Farewell Blues in his own arrangement. He returned to America that same year and found regular work leading his band at the Savoy Ballroom in Harlem through 1941. The band included Shad Collins, Sidney De Paris, Vic Dickenson, and Freddie Webster. After this engagement, he led a seven-piece band which included Eddie Barefield, Kenny Clarke, and Dizzy Gillespie.

In the mid-1940s he moved to Los Angeles, forming another big band, which at times included J. J. Johnson, Max Roach, and Miles Davis. But these would be his last big bands. With the exception of occasional concerts, performing with Jazz at the Philharmonic, and recording, he ceased working as a touring big band bandleader. Los Angeles provided him many opportunities for studio work, and these dominated his time during the decades. He wrote music and arrangements for films, such as Stormy Weather in 1943. During the 1950s and '60s, he wrote arrangements for vocalists such as Louis Armstrong, Ray Charles, Ella Fitzgerald, Peggy Lee, and Sarah Vaughan. On something of a comeback in the 1970s, Carter returned to playing saxophone again and toured the Middle East courtesy of the U.S. State Department. He began making annual visits to Europe and Japan.

In 1969, Carter was persuaded to spend a weekend at Princeton University by Morroe Berger, a sociology professor at Princeton who wrote about jazz. This led to a new outlet for Carter's talent: teaching. For the next nine years he visited Princeton five times, most of them brief stays except for one in 1973 when he spent a semester there as a visiting professor. In 1974, Princeton gave him an honorary doctorate. He conducted teaching at workshops and seminars at several other universities and was a visiting lecturer at Harvard for a week in 1987. Morroe Berger wrote Benny Carter – A Life in American Music (1982), a two-volume work about Carter's career.

Time had little effect on Carter's abilities. During the 1980s, he wrote the long composition Central City Sketches which was performed at Cooper Union by the American Jazz Orchestra. Another long composition, Glasgow Suite, was performed in Scotland. Lincoln Center commissioned him to write "Good Vibes" in 1990. The National Endowment for the Arts gave him a grant that led Tales of the Rising Sun Suite and Harlem Renaissance Suite. This music was performed in 1992 when he was 85 years old.

Carter had an unusually long career. He is one of few musicians to have recorded in eight different decades. Another characteristic of his career was its versatility as musician, bandleader, arranger, and composer. He helped define the sound of alto saxophone, but he also performed and recorded on soprano saxophone, tenor saxophone, trumpet, trombone, clarinet, and piano. He helped establish a foundation for arranging as far back as 1930 when he arranged "Keep a Song in Your Soul" for Fletcher Henderson's big band. His compositions include the novelty hit "Cow-Cow Boogie" recorded by Ella Mae Morse, and the expansive Central City Sketches, written when he was 80 years old and recorded with the American Jazz Orchestra.

Death
Carter died at the age of 95 in Los Angeles at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center on July 12, 2003, from complications of bronchitis.

Awards and honors
He was inducted into the DownBeat Jazz Hall of Fame in 1977. In 1978, he was inducted into the Black Filmmakers Hall of Fame. In 1980, he received the Golden Score award of the American Society of Music Arrangers and Composers. His 75th birthday was commemorated by a radio station in New York that played his music nonstop for over a week. The National Endowment for the Arts gave him the NEA Jazz Masters Award for 1986.

He was given a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award in 1987. In 1994 he won a Grammy Award for his solo on "Prelude to a Kiss" and received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

In 1989, Lincoln Center celebrated Carter's 82nd birthday with a set of his songs sung by Ernestine Anderson and Sylvia Syms. In 1990, he was named Jazz Artist of the Year in the DownBeat and JazzTimes polls. He was a Kennedy Center Honoree in 1996 and received honorary doctorates from Princeton (1974), Rutgers (1991), Harvard (1994), and the New England Conservatory of Music (1998). In 2016, the National Museum of American History made Carter the subject of its Jazz Appreciation Month poster.

In 2000, he was given the National Medal of Arts by President Bill Clinton.

Grammy Awards

 * Wins: 3
 * Nominations: 9

Discography
Information from AllMusic.com

As sideman
With Louis Bellson With Dizzy Gillespie With Jazz at the Philharmonic With Peggy Lee With Dave Pell With Nancy Wilson
 * Skin Deep (Norgran, 1953)
 * The Complete RCA Victor Recordings (Bluebird, 1937–1949, [1995])
 * The Drum Battle (Verve, 1952 [1960])
 * Blues Cross Country (Capitol, 1962) -- also some arrangements
 * I Remember John Kirby (Capitol, 1961)
 * The Sound of Nancy Wilson (Capitol, 1968)
 * Nancy (Capitol, 1969)

Songs composed by Carter

 * "Blues in My Heart" (1931) with Irving Mills
 * "When Lights Are Low" (1936) with Spencer Williams
 * "Cow-Cow Boogie (Cuma-Ti-Yi-Yi-Ay)" (1942) with Don Raye and Gene De Paul
 * "King Size Papa" with Paul Vandervoort II (1947)
 * "Key Largo" (1948) with Karl Suessdorf, Leah Worth
 * "Rock Me to Sleep" (1950) with Paul Vandervoort II
 * "A Kiss from You" (1964) with Johnny Mercer
 * "Only Trust Your Heart" (1964) with Sammy Cahn

Film and video

 * Thousands Cheer (1943)
 * An American in Paris (1951)
 * Clash by Night (1952)
 * The Snows of Kilimanjaro (1952)
 * Buck and the Preacher (1972)
 * Jazz at the Smithsonian: Benny Carter (1982)
 * Benny Carter in Japan (1986)
 * Wolf Trap Salutes Dizzy Gillespie (1988)
 * Benny Carter: Symphony in Riffs (1989)

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Move
(Fr. Antique -> Antique, Philippines)

Take a look at what links here. As "antique" is a common term in English that we could probably use an article on, I think this article should be moved to something like "Antique, Philippines". -- 13 Jul 2003, Infrogmation

 * Good idea. --Menchi 03:47 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Done. I was at first hesitant just putting the province under "Antique" since, it is an common word that deserves a topic. —seav 05:41 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Etymology
For many ancient European places, their articles mention the meaning of their names. How about "Antique"? Is it related to "antiguo" of Spanish? Or is this false friend? --Menchi 05:35 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * I have no idea. Let me search on the Internet. It is most probably of Spanish origin, although I have no idea why it now has the english form. —seav 05:41 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Ok. I searched and found the answer, then I remembered that I already know the answer vaguely before. Antique was named after the large red ants that can be found on Panay. These were called antik-antik. I don't know what language that is since we also call large red ants antik in Tagalog, but this is in the Visayas, which almost certainly has a different language. —seav 06:27 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Great stuff. You could add it to the end of the intro or a new paragraph. Both formats have been seen in WP. --Menchi 06:48 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Done. The research got actually more involved. I had to place an early history of the province to put the name etymology into context. (I would do the succeeding history in the future.) —seav 08:27 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Move
This article has been renamed as the result of a move request. violet/riga (t) 11:12, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Binirayan festival
I added this sub-section; at least this article has now template reference and citation or source. This started in San Jose 34 years ago by the late Gov. Evelio Javier -  a weeklong festivities of colorful street parades, beach shows, plaza concerts, beauty contest and trade fair. "Binirayan"(biray or "sailboat" in Kinaray-a, Antique's local language), refers to the difficult journey of the 10 datus to reach Malandog beach, where they befriend the Atis (Aetas) and eventually start a civilization in pre-Hispanic times. As above-stated, Antique was mythically founded by Bornean Malays in the 12th century. According to legend, 10 Bornean datus (chieftains) claimed Panay island and their leader, Datu Sumakwel, founded the settlement in Malandog, Hamtik, Antique. --Florentino floro (talk) 07:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Religion
The predominant religion in Antique is Roman Catholicsm.but also strong in Antique as well as the Iglesia Filipina Independiente (Philippine Independent Church or Aglipayan Church) founded by Fr. Gregorio Aglipay on 1904 in the province and standing as one diocese ( The Diocese of Antique) and followed by Iglesia ni Cristo ,Baptist churches ,Sevent day Adventist Church,JIL and also the mormoons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.228.50 (talk) 09:54, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

seal
As stated on the the file's description page, File:Antique Logo.png is User:Cabaloutline "own interpretation of provincial logo" which is different from the image previously used -- File:Ph seal antique.png. --Bluemask (talk) 04:45, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

Founded in 1917 or 1780 ?
@Anyone and Re: [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Antique_%28province%29&curid=266938&diff=569973280&oldid=569919371 this edit]. Neither 1917 nor 1780 are mentioned anywhere in the prose of the article. Please add details and a citation, to clarify what/when "founded" means, in this situation. Thanks! –Quiddity (talk) 18:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * The province was established as a separate province (a politico-militar one) in 1780 with the capital in Hamtic (formerly Antique), hence the province's name. Aklan is the only province in Panay established in the 1900's. But, due to the transition to American colony and later independence, there have been certain abolishments and reestablishments of provinces that happened. Iloilo province for example, albeit re-established only in 1901 by the US government, we all know the province was among the first to be established way back in 1566. Many of our provinces were Spanish-created that's for sure. Already provided ref in the est. date. RioHondo (talk) 19:20, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the details. :) –Quiddity (talk) 20:30, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Richard Ratcliffe

Sir Richard Ratcliffe, KG (died 22 August 1485) was a close confidant of Richard III of England.

Life
Ratcliffe came from a gentry family in the Lake District, and became a companion of Richard when the latter was still Duke of Gloucester (1461–83). He was one of Richard's trustees in the lordship of Richmond, and was named steward of Barnard Castle. Richard, while Duke of Gloucester, knighted Ratcliffe during the Scottish campaigns, at the same time creating him a knight banneret.

During the ascension to power by Richard III, Ratcliffe was chosen to return to the north and organize an army to help the Protector, as Richard III was then titled. Some sources name Ratcliffe as the person who gave the order to execute Anthony Woodville, 2nd Earl Rivers (beheaded Jun 1483).

When Richard became king he gave Ratcliffe a number of offices, including the currently attainted hereditary High Sheriff of Westmorland, and made him a Knight of the Garter. He also received a large grant of lands, including much that had belonged to the Courtenay Earls of Devon. After the rebellion of 1483 he was given a very large number of forfeited estates. As a result, he had an income larger than most barons.

In July 1484, William Collingbourne, a Tudor agent, nailed a lampooning poem to St Paul's Cathedral, London, which obliquely identifies Ratcliffe as one of the three aides to King Richard: "The Catte, the Ratte and Lovell our dogge rulyth all Englande under a hogge."

The "catte" alludes to William Catesby; the "ratte" to Ratcliffe; and "Lovell" to Francis, Viscount Lovell, one of whose heraldic family devices was a white wolf (the "dogge"). The "hogge" alludes to King Richard and his badge of a white boar. The poem was interpolated into Laurence Olivier's film Richard III, a screen adaptation of Shakespeare's play.

Ratcliffe married Agnes Scrope, daughter of Henry Scrope, 4th Baron Scrope of Bolton, one of the great barons in the north of England. Ratcliffe was one of the two councillors (the other was William Catesby) who are reputed to have told the king that marrying Elizabeth of York would cause rebellions in the north.

Ratcliffe was killed at the Battle of Bosworth Field, on 22 August 1485.

Shakespeare play
Ratcliffe appears in William Shakespeare's play Richard III as a minor character who executes Rivers, Grey and Vaughn. In the Andrew Wise 1597 (first) edition, Sir Richard's character appears first as Sir Richard Ratliffe (without the 'c') then as plain Ratcliffe (with the 'c', but no 'Sir' nor 'Richard') and finally as plain Ratliffe.

In the 1995 film version (starring Ian McKellen, and adapted to a 1930s setting), Ratcliffe is portrayed by Bill Paterson, and acts as (King) Richard's batman.

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External Links of Interest

 * Friends of the North Coast
 * Mountain Bikers of Santa Cruz: Gray Whale Update
 * Coast & Ocean: Gray Whale Ranch Deal
 * Mountain Lion Habitat
 * Open Space Alliance
 * Santa Cruz Wharf interactive tour

Proposed merge
I propose to merge this article with Wilder Ranch State Park, unless there are objections. WCCasey (talk) 22:12, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

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