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The picture attached to this page is taken from Lone Pine, about 45 minutes south of Big Pine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fordpinto77 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Pine vs. Manzanar High School foot ball game
During WWII the Big Pine High School football team played a game against the Manzanar Relocation Center high school football team.

Several teams in Owens Valley had refused to play against the Manzanar teams. Big Pine broke with them and went to play a game there.

The OC Register ran an article about the game and the story surrounding it: http://www.ocregister.com/articles/nakano-269836-manzanar-school.html

I was going to just add it to the external links section but this article doesn't have an external links section and I wasn't sure that this was a valuable enough link to justify the creation of the section for it.

I thought it might be an important enough story that it might be mentioned in the history section of the article, but I thought the principle editors of the article should make that decision. --Davefoc (talk) 20:43, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

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Bishop's incorporation
Bishop is the only incorporated city in Inyo County...true???...can someone provide proof?...Baldwin91006 (talk) 18:03, 26 February 2008 (UTC) quoting from http://www.csac.counties.org/default.asp?id=79, which is about California counties, "Five of the county seats are in counties which have only one incorporated city, but that city is not the county seat. They are Bridgeport in Mono County where Mammoth Lakes is the incorporated city, Downieville in Sierra County where Loyalton is the incorporated city, Independence in Inyo County where Bishop is the incorporated city, Quincy in Plumas County where Portola is the incorporated city, and San Andreas in Calaveras County where Angels Camp is the incorporated city." I am going to fix Capitol to Capital - one's a building, one's a location. Patroo (talk) 02:21, 27 February 2008 (UTC) Patroo

I'm glad I asked; I was afraid I would've put something stupid in this situation, then get called on the carpet for being stupid...sigh...you've been a great help...thanks...Baldwin91006 (talk) 03:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed sections
Just wanted to explain why I dropped the sections: Happy editing —hike395 (talk) 06:03, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Races --- redundant with the demographics section
 * Tourist attraction / hotels / radio --- According to WP:NOTDIR, this sort of material is not appropriate for WP. Possibly more useful over at WikiTravel.

Controversial building mural
Anyone else heard of this? Apparently not many people thought much of it till a reporter from the LA Times was passing through town, saw it, and decided to do a story on it. Most of the locals are for the mural. Basically the mural is an image of the area from before the lake was drained, showing it being very lush and green. At the bottom of the mural is a drain, symbolizing LA's taking the water. --RyanTee82 (talk) 02:22, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.illusion-art.com/bishop_drain.asp
 * http://www.illusion-art.com/Bishop_Drain/bishop_drain_full.jpg

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The photo begs for an expansion of the history of this place. I wish I knew anytbhing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.32.43.184 (talk) 18:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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Demonym for Cartago?
What do you call residents of Cartago? DBlomgren (talk) 03:58, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

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Lowest point in the world?
I'm not going to edit that out but it's pretty obviously untrue. We do have the World's Lowest Golf Course though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.131.32.179 (talk) 06:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

The highest ground temperature
The highest ground temperature in Furnace Creek, CA was 201°F.

Don't think so guy... IT was 136 in Libya.. I believe Death Valley was up to 134.

 * ground temperature and air temperature are two different things. The highest air temperature in furnace creek is 134 (Its where the death valley record was recorded in 1913) But ground temperature usually isnt consitered important information. 66.36.26.154 15:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Apparently yesterday it reached 139 in Republic, Washington (I know that's really hard to believe), breaking the world record, the old record 134 from Furnace Creek. ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk) 15:17, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

 * It is hard to believe. Citation to reliable source, please. —hike395 (talk) 02:40, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

 * Later:I don't believe it. see —hike395 (talk) 02:42, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * @66.36.26.154 Libya has been removed from the records, proved to be a wrong reading. Telecine Guy (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Furnace Creek is now officially the hottest place on Earth
The WMO (World Meteorological Organization) this morning de-certified the record for the world's highest surface temperature, held for 90 years by El Azizia, Libya. The now official hottest temperature ever recorded on Earth was the 56.7°C (134°F) reading taken at Furnace Creek (née Greenland Ranch) in Death Valley on July 10, 1913, should someone wish to adjust this page. Since this is just a talk page-- interesting that on the temperature profile chart; there's no mention of humidex!-- Gees I wonder Why? HAH! In fact, Death Valley is so dry that heat indices are often well -below- the actual ambient temperature. http://wmo.asu.edu/, and http://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/comment.html?entrynum=89 75.147.156.165 (talk) 13:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Questionable Arithmetic
"There were 18 housing units at an average density of 0.6 per square mile (0.2/km²), of which 11 (73.3%) were owner-occupied, and four (26.7%) were occupied by renters. The homeowner vacancy rate was 0%; the rental vacancy rate was 0%. 19 people (79.2% of the population) lived in owner-occupied housing units and five people (20.8%) lived in rental housing units."

11 is not 73.3% of 18, and 4 is not 26.7% of 18: the percentages are correct for 15, but another year's stats also mentions 18. Something is wrong, but what I do not know.

75.156.37.89 (talk) 00:31, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

 * Excellent catch! The data was added by, and there was a slight mistake. There were 18 housing units in 2010, of which 15 were occupied. The 73.3% fraction is of the total number of occupied units, not total housing units. I fixed the text for this article, but it may be a pervasive problem for the census data that Carlossuarez46 imported in 2012. —hike395 (talk) 01:13, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

 * I see what the problem is; percentages are based on occupied housing units, here 15 of 18. I had begun to fix them and got as far as Inyo county alphabetically before user:BeenAroundAWhile told me to stop. So I've stopped and I expect that user will finish the corrections since he or she has taken control of the process. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:30, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

 * Discussion now at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_2010_US_Census Carlossuarez46 (talk) 20:42, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Broken widgit or something
I don't know how to fix this, but the thingey that lists Census numbers isn't working.... Thmazing (talk)

 * It wasn't broken --- no one had bothered to enter the data. I could only find 2010 and 2018 data, so filled that in. Thanks for flagging this! — hike395 (talk) 14:00, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

 * Thank YOU for fixing it! Thmazing (talk) 16:10, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Highest temperature?
The bogus 1913 entry should be deleted and replaced with one of the modern, reliable extremes. Scientists examined 1913 records recently and determined they are impossible to occur and most likely a falsified by inept caretaker as they fail statistical, meteorological and geographical scrutiny at once: https://www.wunderground.com/blog/weatherhistorian/an-investigation-of-death-valleys-134f-world-temperature-record.html

Ambiguity in definition
There are two GNIS entries for Furnace Creek. There is, which is a "populated place" and whose coordinates are in the center of the resort/village of Furnace Creek. There is also, a census designated place, which stretches from 36.36185°N, -116.86252°W to 36.51006°N, -116.88969°W, approximately 10.3 mi apart.

The lede defined the article to be about the CDP. changed the infobox to reflect this, along with the elevation. However, I wonder if readers really expect the article to be about the 10-mile-long swath of desert? Or to be more specifically about the resort/village? The infobox image shows the entrance sign to the resort.

Thoughts? — hike395 (talk) 00:18, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

 * The early GNIS entries were simple single coord descriptions - then the folks at GNIS went through and amplified the earlier descriptions with more detail and a new id#. I prefer to use the more recent "updates" as they add more details. I know nothing about the Furnace Creek area beyond what GNIS and USGS topo maps tell me. Vsmith (talk) 02:23, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

October record high
Is there sufficient evidence that it was once 118? If so, that would break the US record by 1 degree. Griffin Wilkins (talk) 03:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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California Capital
I heard that Independence was the capital of California at one time. Is this true?

Not true. The capitals have been: * Monterey: 1777-1849. (Capital under Spanish and Mexican rule.) * San Jose: 1849-1851. Statehood voted here. * Vallejo: 1851-1853. * Benicia: 1853-1854. * Sacramento: 1854--present

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A Companion to California. Hart, James D. University of California Press, 1987.

California's Legislature. Wilson, E. Dotson. California State Assembly, 1994.

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Independence is the Fruitcake Festival capital of the World! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavyrunner (talk • contribs) 01:08, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I put a link to the Pepsi commercial because it was shot in Independence and the fact that the commercial was shot in Independence is mentioned in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavyrunner (talk • contribs) 11:45, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Winnedumah closed
The article contains a picture of the Winnedumah Hotel with the following caption: "The Winnedumah Hotel is a popular rest stop for trekkers when they come down into Independence to resupply. photo Paul Fretheim"

We stopped by today (August 8, 2011) and there was a notice dated July 12, 2011 posted on the front door that the Hotel was closed until further notice. The image probably should just be removed from the article. Alternatively the caption should be edited to indicate that the hotel is closed.

In addition, the caption provides a photo credit. I believe that this is against Wikipedia policy and the credit should be removed if the photograph is left in the article.

--Davefoc (talk) 08:21, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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Earthquakes
I've noticed |on the USGS lists that Keeler experiences a ridiculous number of earthquakes even compared to other CA regions, with a decent number of magnitude 3+ quakes and even some magnitude 5+ quakes every day. If Keeler is on a particularly active fault or something particularly interesting it might be nice to include it here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.113.10 (talk) 23:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Tramways
1951 New York Butte 15' USGS quad and 1951 Keeler 15' quad show two tramways ascending northeast from Keeler to Morning Star Mine and Cerro Gordo Mines.Rdmoore6 (talk) 16:26, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

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It seems to me that the two paragraphs devoted to the history of early ascents of Mt. Whitney are better left to the page on that mountain. They could easily be summarized in a couple sentences. Indeed, it's questionable what relevance they have to the history of Lone Pine itself. The movie history, for example, is much more relevant. Doug (talk) 18:08, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

 * Having had no reply to this for a year, I've gone ahead and deleted the paragraphs on climbing Mt. Whitney. Doug (talk) 13:44, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

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why was southern inyo fire edit reverted
the fire station is located in tecopa in the resorts district. I was going to add the link from inyo county.2603:8000:5000:E9D2:4971:A567:FAD:83E (talk) 06:23, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

 * they no longer have a website. can't site facebook 2603:8000:5000:E9D2:4971:A567:FAD:83E (talk) 06:27, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

founding date
would tecopa's founding date be 1907 or 1875? I know someone put the whole "whites" moved into the area, but the local tribes were nomads at the time. so it would the original townsite in 1875 or the relocated townsite in 1907 be the founding date of tecopa? 2603:8000:5000:E9D2:A169:512C:F184:3B55 (talk) 01:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

 * 01:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC) "Whites began populating what would become the CDP in the late 19th century to support nearby mines."
 * Why on earth would anyone identify a group of people by their skin color unless they were an extreme racist?
 * We can't know for sure the racial make up of every single one of these so-called 'whites', but we do know they were pioneers.
 * The word 'whites' which is racially divisive, hostile and offensive should be changed to pioneers because it is your activities that define you, not your skin color.
 * Tired of this anti-whiteism in our society. It has no place on wikipedia and it needs to stop. 47.158.171.202 (talk) 01:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

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Hi. I updated this page to dates provided in Kern County Place Names. No reference was cited for the previous dates. Please feel free to change the dates (years) if they are wrong but provide a source for your dates or years. David Jordan

City???
Arvin is a city? By what standards? - Aditya Kabir 03:40, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

In many states, an incorporated community may be officially designated a "city," irrespective of population. I don't know if that is the case with Arvin. It may be incorporated as a "town" (probably not as a "village," though). 64.85.240.22 (talk) 17:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Spanish
INTERESANTE PAGINA WEB, PERO LES RECOMIENDO PUBLICAR ARTICULOS EN ESPAÑOL, DADO QUE EN ESTA CIUDAD DE ARVIN LA MAYORIA DE LA GENTE ES MEXICANA Y EN BASE A ESTO HABEMOS MUCHOS MEXICANOS CON FAMILIARES HAY Y NOS GUSTARIA CONOCER LA CIUDAD ATRABES DE LA PAGINA WEB, UN SALUDO PARA TODA LA POBLACION DE ARVIN CALIFORNIA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.216.80.105 (talk) 23:57, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Pues, hay una página de Arvin en español (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvin). Sin embargo, en el futuro, favor de no escribir solamente en mayúsculas. Se consideran gritos. 64.85.240.22 (talk) 17:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

2009
2009 is 99.9& hispanic? that seems steep. is that correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.165.18.99 (talk) 23:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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List of sites of interest in Bakersfield, California has been in CAT:NN's backlog for over 10 years and is unreferenced. I don't think it meets WP:LISTN or WP:GNG, but could be a useful section in this well-written article. Proposing a merge/redirect as an WP:ATD. Boleyn (talk) 06:27, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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Crime
According to an article the top 20 most dangerous neighbor hooods in Bakersfield are : Lake View, East Bakersfield, Rio Bravo, Southgate, Amberton, Quialwood, Homaker park, beton park, East Bridge, Estates, Downtown, Tyner homes, Spice Track, Oleander sunset, sagepoint, stockdale Greens, park Stockdale, CollegeHieghts Baker street, Rexland Acers, Stone meadows, haggin oaks. With a crime rate of 491.43 per 100,000 residents Bakersfield is considered one of the most dangerous cities in Californa. In 2004 Bakersfiled's crime rate was 710.53 per 100,000 residents. Bakersfield has many gangs on different sides of Bakersfield. The different areas in Bakersfield are Central Bakersfield also known as(Downtown),North Bakersfield,Northeast,East Bakersfield,Southeast, Bakersfield,Southwest,Northwest. With gangs like Eastside Crips, Westside Crips,Country Boy Crips,Southside Bakers,Varrio Rexland Park,Varrio Bakers,Loma Bakers,Okie Bakers,Greenfield Bakers,Oildale Peckerwoods,Eastside Lamont,arrio Chico Lamont,Lamont Familia Surenos,Arvina Locos,Arvina Poorside,Varrio Weedpatch,Brown Pride,Varrio Nueva Estrada,Deadly Young Psyclones,Hillside Loma Bakers,Warlord Piru,Eastside Bakers,Westside bakers according to Bakersfield Gang Map. And according to another website there are gangs like spoonie g crips,stroller boy crips, mid city crips,lakeview gangsta crips,project crips,clifton mob crips,westside gangsta crips, west side crips, west side family crips,watts & lotus blocc crips,melwood blocc crips aka helwood,bradshaw hustler gang,mad blocc crips,reece & cheetam blocc aka rc blocc,cottonwood crips,westside warlord piru,loma bakers 13,hillside loma bakers 13,colonia bakers 13,okie bakers 13,varrio bakers 13,bakers sur trece gang,southside bakers 13,lil locos (ss bakers),southgate locos (ss bakers) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9008:1A03:8C84:3074:70D4:911B:3379 (talk) 01:10, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Crime rates
What’s the crime rate in Bakersfield ? 2603:8000:753F:7147:E9CF:FA00:C731:5CBE (talk) 16:29, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Theres two different population numbers
One for the census, one how it is now. Should we remove the census because it is outdated? Janlopi (talk) 21:34, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you're referring to the number in the lead? If so, no, we should remove the other one for being unsourced. That number, furthermore, is actually for the urban area around Bakersfield and not Bakersfield itself. I, however, cannot find a source backing that number up, and as such will be removing it as unsourced. SkyWarrior  21:54, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * thank Janlopi (talk) 21:21, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

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Gah! How can you have an article on a place called "Boron, California" without a paragraph explaining that the local economy is almost entirely built around the mining and distibution of boron, the element?! The article on Boric Acid points out that this town is the world's largest source of that boron compound, but the article on the town doesn't mention boric acid at all. This article needs attention from an expert in boron chemistry.

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Bad Links
The link to Castle Rocks goes to some place in Montana, far from California.

That's because there is no Castle Rocks near Boron. It is actually 15 miles southwest of Red Rock Mountain and the town of Red Mountain (Ghost town). Missaeagle (talk) 13:56, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

The link to the Boron chamber of commerce goes to a place that's trying to sell that web site.

Sure wish the Census Bureau would release the 2010 population figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.109.15 (talk) 02:52, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

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Gas prices
On Sunday, May 22, 2005, the gas prices in Buttonwillow were the cheapest on I-5 between the Grapevine and CA-152, at $2.20/gallon. Gentgeen 18:46, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

I was in an auto accident near there, and was told by the tow truck operator, that it is a very dangerous drive with many accidents.

Buttonwillow landfill discussion NPOV
This section of the article appears highly biased. The NPOV guidelines indicate that both sides of a dispute should be presented in a neutral manner. This section provides only a single point of view: that of opposition to the landfill. This section should be rewritten to remove judgmental and pejorative language and to present the viewpoint of those who support the landfill.--QLFixBoy (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

"Toxic waste dump" is a pejorative and inaccurate term. The correct description is "Class I landfill" or "hazardous waste landfill". The word "toxic" is used incorrectly throughout this section. "Toxic" and "hazardous" are not synonyms, either in the dictionary, or in federal or California regulations. They are not interchangeable. Not all hazardous waste is toxic.

The last sentence of the third paragraph in this section implies that the landfill released toxins and that the released toxins caused the birth defect cited in the preceding sentence. Neither statement has been proven; indeed, the cause and effect relationship between releases from the landfill and birth defects are impossible to prove.

The last paragraph of the section describes "myths" that apparently the cited source describe. However, the pertinence of the discussion to the topic is not described. It appears the word "myth" is used to further the author's apparently biased position.

The serious environmental justice issues raised in this article are undermined by the author's biased POV.--QLFixBoy (talk) 19:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Buttonwillow landfill discussion factual content
This section of the article includes numerous references to Laidlaw. The Buttonwillow landfill is currently operated by Clean Harbors Buttonwillow, LLC. The content appears to be three years out of date. Recent developments, with correct references to current operations, regulatory decisions, and citizen complaints should be added.

In the fifth paragraph, the California Environmental Quality Act is mentioned. The paragraph subsequently states that an Environmental Impact Report “examines the potential environmental impacts of many projects such as toxic waste dumps”. (The quotation marks are the author's.) CEQA does not include the quoted line. The word "dump" does not appear in CEQA at all. The source quoted by the author appears to be inaccurate or biased. --QLFixBoy (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

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I decided to add in a little bit of info on two Filipino immigrants that helped in shaping the direction of farm working organizing for the UFW because not that many people know that Filipino labor workers helped in starting the farm workers movement. --Shawnobina 6:17, 14 June 2011

 * Delano has a good-sized Asian-American (mostly Filipino) community, in addition to a Hispanic or Latino majority, the legacy of Filipino farm laborers from the Philippines arrived in Kern County, California and the annual Philippine weekend is held there. Mike D 26 (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

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I did a bunch of cleaning up, adding cites, conversion to prose, editing for style and clarity, etc. I think the page is better, tighter and more accurate now. I think the lists of locations should be converted to prose or eliminated - I think they were pasted in right from the City's website. Maybe I'll do it later. Also, I don't know how to fix the climate chart, which seems be placed over other elements of the page, and I'm not sure why the reference numbers are out of order. --Ferretstew (talk) 06:51, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation
My family having lived there from 1956 to 2001, I was surprised to see the first pronunciation. I have never heard anything but dee-LAY-no, so are there references? It may well have been different at earlier times, but I think the local popular standard should rule, at least for place names. On the other hand, the place is very cosmopolitan for such a small country town, and the demographics have shifted towards hispanic since I last lived there myself, in 1959. Wwheaton (talk) 21:39, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

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"Although very real, no one else knows about this city". I assume this statement is meant as a joke, but even if someone is trying to make a comment on Delano not being well know in the state or across the US, it needs to be stated in a different way with some reference article that proves the point. Raszoo (talk) 04:00, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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Airport Diagram
Your airport diagram is outdated. See http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0905/00500ADROGERSLAKEBED.PDF 75.170.177.18 (talk) 15:30, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

 * The diagram is included only to provide a quick ref to the commentary in the article, not replace the official resource. Looks like the only significant change is a likely temporary threshold displacement on RWY 15. Please feel free to edit, though :) AlanM1 (talk) 06:22, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Link is 404
In the References section, the USAF Flight Test Center Museum link goes to a 404 page. I tried to edit it but can't. The only links I could find are http://www.edwards.af.mil/questions/topic.asp?id=812 or http://www.edwards.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123055011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.58.81.17 (talk) 20:32, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

North Base Correction
In the North Base section of the article, the statement about the proximity of the 95th Security Forces Squadron to the "secret" hangars is inaccurate. I was a senior ranking member of the squadron when we moved from our old location on the Main Base to the new one on the North Base in late 2004. The move was made because the old building was constructed in the late 50's/early 60's and was no longer suitable for the size the squadron had grown to and our operational needs. When the 18th Space Surveillance Squadron deactivated in 2004, their building became the only one available that met the needs of the SFS (size and immediate availability). Now, the 18th SSS may have had something to do with the North Base mission, but we weren't involved with that. All we were concerned with was getting a new facility that more than tripled our total office space and allowed for continued growth for future operations. On a side note, the only working relation we had with the North Base operations was to provide, when requested, military working dog support for explosives and drug detection. Beyond that we never worked or interacted with them because they have their own contracted security and are almost entirely self-sufficient (from a security stand point). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.34.248.10 (talk) 18:34, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Around the world flight took place at Edwards?
In Overview section... I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Did the flight originate there? Did it land there? Both? As it is now, it makes no sense.

Bullet to subsection, #Associate Units
Hi y'all, I came across a Wikilink in Air Force Research Laboratory which failed to reach it's target and defaulted to the top of the page. Furthermore, the Table-of-Contents provided no clear cues as to where the link had been intended to take the reader. Upon examination, this situation seemed largely due to the subsections of Edwards Air Force Base being listed as bullet points rather than with traditional subsection markup. In addition to targeting issues, when presented as bullet points there was also a lack of bold text to set apart the subsection headings which made finding the relevant info difficult even by manually scrolling through the article. I eventually resorted to my web browser's search function.

This process seemed, among other things, to fail the 'least surprise' standard for readers attempting to follow links and find information in the article so I've transitioned the section from bullet points to standard subsections. This has left the existing indented formatting intact while bold-facing the headings and adding them to the ToC.

--Kevjonesin (talk) 15:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Name change
The Dryden Flight Research Center has been renamed the Neil A. Armstrong Flight Research Center, so the article should reflect this name change.68.4.28.33 (talk) 02:45, 8 February 2014 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian

 * http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/home/index.html seems to indicate that it has not actually happened yet only the act has been signed. MilborneOne (talk) 12:19, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

PDF Download
Some of the sidebar information is missing in the rendered PDF, specifically: USA_California_location_map.svg, Edwards_Air_Force_Base_-_Main_-_2006.jpg, Edwards_Air_Force_Base_-_Rogers_Dry_Lake_CA_2006.jpg, and the Airfield Summary and Runways sidebars.

I thought the entire page would be rendered as a PDF, and was disappointed so much was not included.

I'm interested because I was a member of the JSC team in the 80's that measured lakebed hardness (via soil penetrometer studies). We confirmed the hardness of the lakebed runway varied along its length and changed from year to year. The study verified the ORES lakebed landing simulation anomalies we'd seen were based on reality.

ORES was the Orbiter Rollout Energy Simulation, a computer program used (from STS-1 to retirement) to estimate the brake life retained after a landing. Kiisu Buraun (talk) 22:48, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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Was Edwards damaged in the July 2019 Earthquakes?
I was reading this page and also looking at the Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake to see the difference between the two facilities.

I noticed in the last paragraph under China Lake Naval Air Weapons Station that China Lake suffered massive damage ($Billions) during those earthquakes, the epicenter being underneath the facilities.

Edwards is only 55 miles away. So I was wondering if there were any effects at Edwards?

All the best,

James 202.44.193.229 (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

 * I was there, i do not remember any damages but i can ask contacts who were also there if they can remember any. Sheabutter98 (talk) 23:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Runway adjustments
Appears to me as a layperson that at least two of the runways have had their numbers adjusted due to magnetic drift. At least, from what I can see on the current page on AirNav. Don't feel fully comfortable that I fully know how to verify this 100%, so leaving this here for an intrepid editor to look into and update if desired. thadius856talk 03:47, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

 * Hello, I've checked the records FAA records at https://adip.faa.gov/agis/public/#/public and appears they have changed so I've updated to reflect the new designations. Thx811 (talk) 19:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Military
Is it possible to remove the USMC Squadron based on Edwards, designation VMX-1? They no longer have a detachment there testing the F35b as of October 2019. They moved to MCAS Yuma, Arizona with their mothership command.Sheabutter98 (talk) 23:55, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Correction needed for commander section
EDWARDS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. Col. Douglas Wickert assumed command of the 412th Test Wing from Brig. Gen. Matthew Higer during a change of command ceremony at Edwards Air Force Base, California. Aug. 18, 2023 2600:1702:6B1:8A30:68A5:1EB5:D43:735 (talk) 12:10, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

 * to the name of the commander! In-fact the commander is Col. Charles "MD" Jones as of 18 AUG 2023! AboveNBeyond8 (talk) 21:07, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

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Water area
"ALL of it is covered by water"? Hmm. I think the US Census Bureau is wrong... I just drove through there last week and it looked pretty high and dry to me. ;) Perhaps we should modify this, despite what the Census Bureau website says? RockBandit 20:52, Aug 3, 2004 (UTC)

Generic Frazier Park
Regarding Cuddy Valley, Lake of the Woods, et al: Do you mean that the Census Bureau considers these all part of Frazier Park for census purposes? US Geological Survey sees these as separate. Talk:David Jordan

No, though it might. People of those communities say they live in Frazier Park. Wikibout-Talk to me! 04:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

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Kindly refer to EL before adding an external link. Yours sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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Government
At this edit I removed text from this article with the edit summary "Remove unencyclopedic detail". This was reverted here by with edit summary "Restoring. It's important to the story." I maintain that the inclusion in the article of a list of names and mini-biographies of otherwise non-notable people (with the greatest respect to the individuals concerned) in article about a small community is much more detail than is required in an encyclopedia. I'd be grateful for the opinion of others. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello, there. Often WP is the only source for information about small towns. Why omit information which is of value to a community, no matter its size? WP is not limited as to size. I did not see any reasons here to remove so much info, or any info, from this article. Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:12, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
 * (3O) - Agreed it's too much detail. WP shouldn't be the only source for anything at all, as a tertiary source. It's not a substitute for an official local website (nor an extension thereof). As per fundamental content policies, aspects of a subject we cover should be roughly proportional to coverage of those aspects in the body of literature about a subject, without going into too much detail. Biographical statements about non-notable local officials isn't something we would typically include, except when those people are an important part of the town's history (and covered by reliable sources as such). — Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:08, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW it's usually better to have a bit more discussion before going to 3O rather than just one message apiece. :/ — Rhododendrites  talk \\ 17:09, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't know what 3O means. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 06:28, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * . it's a Third opinion
 * thank you for your time, and specific and general advice. Regards, Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:09, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

 * Sorry, BeenAroundAWhile, there's a special template I should've used which would've linked to 3O. It's typically an early (and pretty informal) step in dispute resolution. The idea is that, for arguments that two people can't resolve, a third opinion is often useful (granted, it's not usually used after just one message by each party :/ ). It's not binding, however, and you can choose to use one of the other DR processes if you like (like an WP:RFC), but I would be very surprised if it went a different way. — Rhododendrites  talk \\ 14:19, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I've used Third Opinion a couple of times. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for adding the helpful request at the top of the page to update this section. In the meantime, the accepted version should remain because of WP:Bold, revert, discuss. There was a (1) Bold move to delete most of the section, then a (2) Reversion, which was followed by a (3) Discussion on this WP:Talk page. While it's being discussed, the original wording should be retained. The retention will help any interested editor to update the section. A discussion has begun, but it hasn't continued long enough for a decision to delete anything. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 23:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

In the meantime, I suggest solving this problem by deleting the text of the "Government" section and referring the reader to Mountain_Communities_of_the_Tejon_Pass, which has the same information, but updated. What do you say? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 00:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you're subverting process. I opened a discussion. After a week there was a response from only you. I then asked for a 3rd opinion which agreed that there's too much detail. I therefore deleted the material again. After a further week you have restored the detail. How much more discussion do you want? The section you link to has precisely the same problem: too much unencyclopaedic detail. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 14:57, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

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Climate Effects on Saw Music
This article states: "Inyokern is often indicated on world climate maps.[citation needed] This notoriety is unique for a town of its size.[citation needed] Inyokern has the highest insolation of any locale on the North American continent, having over 355 days of sunshine each year. In addition, the town is home to the past and current world champion musical saw players.[5]" This paragraph starts off talking about climate and then abruptly changes to talking about saw music - perhaps these seemingly disparate thoughts should be reorganized into two paragraphs... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.61.141 (talk) 20:24, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

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This is same Keene as in movie Grapes of Wrath?
The Joad family are told by a passing recruiter who sees them fixing their truck alone the road that they can find work at the Keene Ranch -- I assume that this ranch was in Keene or is synonymous with Keene or later the ranch became a town but it is a location important to the movie (and maybe novel too) and perhaps this can be added to the article. 50.230.251.244 (talk) 18:32, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

"Woodford, California" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Original site?
So Kernville was moved when the dam went in. I am guessing the Rustic Mountain Inn, built mainly to house motion picture industry people filming in the area, was razed before the dam was installed. Anybody know WHERE in the lake Kernville was at? --Ragemanchoo (talk) 08:40, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Slow answer, but -- it's just a bit east of Wofford Heights. You can still see foundations and such when the lake is low, as it is now. As far as the Mountain Inn is concerned, it was moved up to new Kernville, and is now the River View Lodge. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 17:36, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool! Glad to hear its still around. It doesn't appear to have a wikipedia article, which is surprising.. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 02:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Turns out I was wrong about that. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:38, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

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Any ideas on what should be added?
I am having a difficult time in general tracking down websites with historical information on Lamont,CA. Any comments or links would be appreciated.

I did find this site : http://www.weedpatchcamp.com/Other%20htms/Arvin.htm but it seems to be in massive disrepair. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cernys Tub (talk • contribs) 05:41, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Where is the nearest airport north and where is the nearest airport south? Small town, so if someone wanted to be closer to one or the other and drive into town, renting a car, into which is a better city to land?Kristinwt (talk) 02:25, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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Can more details about the agricultural production in Lost Hills, California be added to the article? Are pistachio trees grown there? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:21, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

To add to this article: how and when did Lost Hills get its name? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 00:22, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Both of these are very good suggestions, if you can find a reliable source for this information, I would be happy to help add it to the article. Do you know of any history books, news articles, magazines, etc. that have this information? - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Lost hills CA. History
At times lost hills was a parachute drop zone, a motorcycle riding area as it was mostly desert. 47.208.239.164 (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Can any locals please help to verify when and why the town's name was changed, both from Hunt and from Lone Pine? I suspect it could not remain Lone Pine because another town in California already went by that name, but we need a source. 97.68.84.119 (talk) 14:47, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Is there nothing but Mexicans mcMcFarland?
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Nickname?
I always had friends call it "the 'Dale", but I don't know how extended its use was. Should someone mention Trout's? --Bobak 20:00, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
 * How? We might want to think about changing the article to reflect the fact that Buck's old studio has closed down.  Frotz (talk) 18:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

It is commonly referred to as "the 'Dale", another common nickname is "the '08", based on the zip code of 93308, which is used solely for Oildale. --justinpmeisinger 21:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.95.210.77 (talk)

Take off the redneck jokes
No one goes to a ghetto towns page and says that their town is the subject of "nigger jokes"...come on wtf is this

 * It's self-deprecating humor. Frotz (talk) 05:06, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Misinformation?
A section in here states that the KKK sometimes marched down Chester Ave in the 60's. That is not accurate but I cannot find the proof. I lived and grew up in Oildale from 1944 until 1960. My folks and other family are still there. I and they would have known about the KKK marching down Chester Ave. and not one of my family nor friends can come up with an incident of the KKK in Oildale. Yes, the KKK sympathizers (sp) were there, but they stayed out of site. If I can find the truth, I will forward it on to you. In the mean time, the blurb about the KKK should be removed until I can prove or disprove it. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oildalekid (talk • contribs) 15:33, 2 December 2011 (UTC) Dennis D. Paul 03:15, 5 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oildalekid (talk • contribs)

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Festivals
Someone should do a write up of the annual festivals in PMC, like the Lilac Festival and the Wine in the Pines event. I guess I should do it, but not yet.

Roger that

The PMCPOA news paper (the Condor) & it's archives should be a good source / reference for a Festivals section. TSayles 04:32, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Randsburg, California

Map talk
Map code line was moved to bottom of Geography section because it caused a large gap in the page. It should be moved back to the begining of the Geography section when enough information has been added to the first paragraph of the article (and history) to fill the gap. Grburns 19:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

Since this page gives no history of Randsburg, I'm wondering why it's listed on the California Ghost Town page. 63.207.25.194 22:13, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Try 117 deg W, not E (unless you place this town in China). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.108.180.87 (talk) 18:46, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Ridgecrest, California

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 * LARGE PORTIONS OF THIS PAGE ARE LIFTED DIRECTLY FROM and several of the pictures are of totally different places, and therefore mislabeled.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.79.20 (talk) 06:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Murray
It should be noted that Murray Middle School is on the base. What I mean is this: it's easily accessible (I went there for my middle school years) but it isn't shown to be on the base. Should it be fixed or no? Drakonis 15:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Ridgecrest, California
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Reference named "nhlsum": From Edwards Air Force Base: NHL Summary for Rogers Dry Lake From Walker Pass: NHL Summary From Naval Air Weapons Station China Lake:

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 * God bot! Good bot! *pet pet pet. They are all to different links. Those petroglyphs sure a beautiful. Hamster Sandwich (talk) 01:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

More of the Good Stuff
I would love to see some EPA stats on air quality, and perhaps any environmental impact that the adjacent military base has on the community. Any ideas where to go after that kind of data? Hamster Sandwich (talk) 01:55, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe what you are looking for can be located here in three volumes of PDF files. 138.163.0.44 (talk) 21:58, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Revisions
Various edits have been made by various editors to bring this article closer to the norms for city articles, as found in the examples of other articles and in the WikiProject Cities/Guideline. Which of those changes are problematic?  Will Beback   talk    00:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Temp Gauge is off...
I lived in Ridgecrest for 15 years (1990-2005) and in that time frame I know for a fact that temperatures have exceeded 122 degrees. I know it's a small detail and of little importance, but I have worked plenty of days in that hot sun where the temp was over 125 and up to 130. I've cooked eggs and pizzas in a box lined with aluminum foil on the side-walk when i was a child, and I know I'm not the only one who can verify this. Simply living there and owning a digital thermometer can show that Ridgecrest averaged over 100 consecutive days over 100 degrees during that entire time-frame, and that it hasn't been until recently that the temperatures have begun to drop oddly enough.

98.127.132.237 (talk) 02:48, 21 October 2010 (UTC)JHAM1986

 * The source is Weather.com. I don't think it's an official weather source. In fact, I believe they estimate some of these values. The folks at China Lake probably keep good weather records, but they probably don't share them.   Will Beback    talk    03:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

I know that the official records for August at KNID (NAWS, CHina Lake) will show a 119 maximum for that month, too. August 3,1993 48.3°C cited at http://www.tutiempo.net/en/Climate/China_Lake_Naval_Air_Facility/08-1993/746120.htm That is the all time high. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.16.144.242 (talk) 22:13, 25 November 2012 (UTC) The record they cited https://wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ca1733 clearly show that August 119°F day as does Farmers Almanac (enter 93555 and Aug 3 1993). The NOAA records say August 2 NOAA NWS records. Those are the government official records, though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rinkevichjm (talk • contribs) 07:25, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * August 1993 record verify that

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Thought I'd add some "flesh" to the previous addition made - which was a nice start from the original stump that used to be present here. The info should be useful to the Edwards AFB military community, as well as area leaders and those outside the community. Headings have been added as well. 209.221.223.134 03:23, 31 May 2004 (UTC)avnative

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