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This county just became wet and i think that this needs to be added in the article about it.Akamaru Toshibo 19:17, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

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EGS

EGS may refer to:

Education

 * Enfield Grammar School, an English school
 * Ermysted's Grammar School, an English school
 * European Graduate School, a Swiss private university

Science

 * Edinburgh Geological Society
 * EGS (program), a Monte Carlo simulation program
 * Ehlers–Geren–Sachs theorem
 * Enhanced geothermal system
 * European Geophysical Society, now part of the European Geosciences Union

Technology

 * Emergency gas supply, a backup life support system for underwater diving
 * Enhanced Graphics System, on the Amiga computer
 * Epic Games Store, a digital video game storefront
 * Ergis (company), a Polish chemical company
 * Experimental Geodetic Satellite, a Japanese satellite
 * Exploration Ground Systems, a NASA program

Other uses

 * Ecological goods and services
 * Egilsstaðir Airport in Iceland
 * El Goonish Shive, a webcomic by Keenspot CTO Dan Shive
 * Expert Global Solutions, a defunct American debt collection agency

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Rio Grande Mud

Rio Grande Mud is the second studio album by the American rock band ZZ Top. It was released in 1972 by the London Records label. The album title was inspired by the Rio Grande, the river that forms the border between Mexico and Texas.

Background
ZZ Top frontman Billy Gibbons said of the album: "It was the first record that brought us into step with the writing experience. We started documenting events as they happened to us on the road; all of these elements went into the songwriting notebook. As we went along, we were keeping track of skeleton ideas as they popped up. The craft was certainly developing."

Release
The only single released from the album was "Francine", which peaked at number 69 on the Billboard Hot 100. The A-side was the album version, while the B-side featured the song with the vocals re-recorded in Spanish. Another 45 version was released in the UK and Germany backed with "Down Brownie". Various official ZZ Top releases throughout the years, beginning in 1972, have used the alternative spelling "Francene", especially on the various 45 releases both within and outside the United States as well as the first edition of the LP.

In 1987, the album was remixed for CD release. On January 11, 2011, Rhino released a remastered version from the original 1972 mix on vinyl only. This album was put up for download on Amazon's MP3 store and iTunes as a digital download in 2012, and features the original mixes of the tracks that are on Chrome, Smoke & BBQ, and the 1987 remixes of the tracks that are not from that box set. The original mix of the album was released on CD in June 2013 as part of the box set The Complete Studio Albums (1970-1990).

Reception
AllMusic retrospectively gave the album 3.5 stars, stating: "With their second album, Rio Grande Mud, ZZ Top uses the sound they sketched out on their debut as a blueprint, yet they tweak it in slight but important ways."

The album peaked at number 104 on the Billboard 200 in June 1972.

Personnel

 * ZZ Top
 * Billy Gibbons – guitar, harmonica, vocals
 * Dusty Hill – bass guitar, background vocals on "Francine" and "Chevrolet"
 * Frank Beard – drums, percussion

 * Additional personnel
 * Pete Tickle – acoustic guitar on "Mushmouth Shoutin'"

 * Production
 * Bill Ham – production
 * Robin Hood Brians – engineering

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Rivervale, AR county
Rivervale was in Poinsett County Ar. Not sharp co. 174.247.224.233 (talk) 08:24, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

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Should there be some mention of the numerous Couger attacks in this county? What about the controversy about the alleged suppression of the evidence of these attacks (packs of wild dogs, run-aways not located, various unsolved murders, etc.), by the local authorities?

There was a well documented case 10 years ago, that was never resolved. Plus all the attacks on domestic pets that are better documented. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggb667 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Buffalo River
The Buffalo River does not flow through Washington County. However, the White River does. 72.204.15.161 (talk) 20:37, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

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Something that I am curious to know (the entire reason I came to this article, actually) is, why does Yell County have two county seats? This is not satisfactorily explained in this article or the articles for Danville and Dardanelle. Are there any locals who can provide sources to answer this? Thanks. MolotovH (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:Alameda County, California

Missing table header rows.
The tables: Places by population and race and Places by income are not sortable and missing header rows. 2601:2C3:C582:3EB0:D425:F98E:D54:413E (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

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Possible merger?
I would be interested in seeing some discussion of whether the subject of merging Alpine with another county has ever been considered. Alpine has such a small population that the per capita cost of running the county government must be high. Of course, territoriality probably plays a strong role in county residents resisting the idea of merging with another county. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.166.18.236 (talk) 00:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

It's just like the government of a small town2601:640:4001:266C:6409:7E30:861B:4F4B (talk) 01:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

No incorporated cities?
The Atlas of California (p. 17) states that Markleeville was incorporated in 1864, although it is "inactive". --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 21:47, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

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Shenandoah Valley
This section does not seem very objective and lacks all references. T71024 (talk) 06:42, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

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Maxi yacht

A maxi yacht usually refers to a racing yacht of at least 70 ft in length.

Origin
The term maxi originated with the International Offshore Rule (IOR) rating system, which in the 1970s and 1980s measured offshore racing yachts and applied a single-number rating to each boat. This number was approximately equal to the sailing waterline length in feet, plus or minus speed enhancing or reducing factors in the design. A yacht with a rating of 40 ft was generally about 47 to 52 ft in length overall. The IOR had upper and lower rating limits of 16 ft and 70 ft, so a yacht designed and built to exceed the maximum limit of 70 ft rating was known as a maxi. "Being the biggest sailing yachts afloat, Maxis have always had the best chance of finishing first. They were sufficiently fast and seaworthy to cross oceans and became the craft of choice of pioneers of the Whitbread Round the World Race. The racing giants in the Maxi Yacht Rolex Cup 2005 are the modern descendants of those early aquatic thoroughbreds."

Competition
The IOR Maxis were generally 75 to 82 ft long overall, and raced boat-for-boat without handicap, unlike the rest of the IOR fleet which raced with a time correction factor depending on the boat's rating. In the 1980s they were the most glamorous, exciting, expensive and high-visibility racing yachts in the world, with regular appearances at most of the great races such as the Fastnet, Sydney-Hobart, Bermuda Race, and their own private series of regattas in the Mediterranean and Caribbean seas. The maxis were also prominent as line honour contestants in the Whitbread Round the World Race from 1973 to 1993.

Modern maxis
Modern maxi yachts are usually custom-designed and built to the IRC rule but regardless of handicap in order to achieve line honour victories. In 2001 however two 86 ft Reichel/Pugh boats were built to the "maxZ86" class in order to match boat speed evenly, but the class did not generate further interest. For the 2009 Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race, the Cruising Yacht Club of Australia increased the IRC rating upper limit for length of hull from 98 to 100 ft, and most 98 ft yachts have been lengthened to this size. In order to achieve higher speeds, maxi yachts were early adopters of modern materials and technologies such as carbon fibre, thermoformed sails, rotating wingmasts, water ballasts and canting keels. Previous smaller maxi yachts are still raced with corrected time class victories in mind whilst the 72 ft "mini-maxi" yachts now have a class of their own. Maxi yachts are raced in both inshore and offshore races.

List of largest maxi yachts
• LH designates the length of hull as measured by IRC, excluding bowsprits

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Talk:Butte County, California

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Changes to Government and Politics section
We are not going to revisit this again. Nope. Wikipedia is NOT a political battleground, and election results are a matter of public record, no matter which way they turn out. You cannot simply remove information from an article because it is not favorable to one party or another. Instead, rewording is a better option in this case, as I have done in the article.

This has happened before, back in August of 2008. The same kind of politics-based edit warring was going on, with some biting comments included in the edit descriptors. ("LEAVE MY EDITS ALONE." (Wikipedia is not Chris Crocker!), "It is currently being edited by a fervent REPPUBLICAN who refuses to let the DEMOCRATS have a voice.") Again, Wikipedia is NOT the place for either Reps or Dems to seek a "voice". Rivendweller, as you are one of our newer editors, I suggest you see Wikipedia policies at Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and Wikipedia is not a battleground. In short, we're not going to go there, albeit a second time. Edit Centric (talk) 09:00, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Rivendweller, what I would suggest is, instead of REMOVING information to make the section lean more towards a certain direction, you WORK THE ARTICLE; gather MORE information about the recent swing in the voting and registration trends! ADD information, and BUILD the section. To simply say; "We're gonna remove some info to make it look more or less favorable to one side or the other" is to deny access to that removed information. That is neither constructive, nor is it appropriate for Wikipedia. Give the reader ALL the information, let THEM draw their own conclusions. By ALL the information, I also mean information that can be added to document any change in the voting demographics from point A towards center, or even past center towards point B! I'm sure if you look, it's out there. Once again, work the article, don't tear pieces from it. Edit Centric (talk) 07:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes. It's nearly always bad to remove information from Wikipedia, unless it's flatly incorrect or wrong or slanderous. If its presense unblanaces something, leave it, and figure out how to balance it. But removing good stuff denies other access to it, as has been noted. S  B Harris 08:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Rollback on 2009 02 04
Just a quick notation / justification for recent rollback, was done under WP:SPAM. The removed link was a spam addition by unregistered IP editor. Edit Centric (talk) 06:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

8th Senate District
Calaveras County is not in the 8th Senate District. If you click on that link, it shows that the 8th Senate District represent parts of San Francisco and San Mateo Counties, but comes nowhere close to Calaveras County. RNealK (talk) 04:47, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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2010 Demographics
"Non-native, non-black" is totally unspecific and an poorly veiled attempt at political correctness. This is an encyclopedia, not a social justice blog. Fix it.

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Sheriffs
According to the article, Alexander Hunter recently began his 161st year as county sheriff. It might be desirable for someone to do something about updating that. Rick DiBasilio is the current (2019) one, according to the county website. He took office in May 2016 following the death of Gary Kuntz, according to an archived 2018 Union-Democrat article ((https://www.uniondemocrat.com/localnews/6291667-151/calaveras-county-sheriff-election-likely-to-head-to)) David Downum held the position on the 2008 WayBack page that rather quaintly serves as the article reference for the Board of Supervisors.

I apologize, but I don't have time to research this any further; I only followed up to the extent I did because the Hunter reference showing no end date for his tenure seemed ludicrous.Ajericn (talk) 00:51, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

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Pacific Mineral and Coal Oil Company
Anyone ever hear of the Pacific Mineral and Coal Oil Company? --evrik (talk) 14:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC) "Colusa County History in 1863 - "Colusa County", Justus H. Rogers, Orland, CA,

This year was not remarkable for any stirring or extraordinary happenings. It was the third year of the war, and Colusa County, by its firm adherence to the Democratic party of that period, by its invariably large and increasing Democratic majorities, as well as by its rash and often imprudent expressions condemnatory of the administration of Mr. Lincoln, became the target of every Republican newspaper in the State. There existed in Colusa a saloon, at which the leading politicians and office-seekers congregated to discuss politics as well as to imbibe beverages. It bore the saucy and defiant name of the Copperhead Saloon. Hanna & Chester were the first proprietors of the place, and on their business cards, which were scattered everywhere throughout the State, and preserved either as curiosities or to stir the blood of the loyal when read at public meetings, they announced that at Durst's Old Corner, opposite Suydam's store, they prepared "Constitutional Cocktails," "Seymour Smashes," "Habeas Corpus Juleps," and " Vallandigham Eye-openers." This saloon continued its business, and flaunted the same name until the May following, when it ceased to advertise itself. Doubtless, the presence of United States soldiers, who were at that time sent to the county seat, had much to do with the disappearance of the name of this whisky mill, it being but reasonable to suppose that its mixed assortment of so much "constitution" and so little proof spirits was soon exhausted by the thirsty boys in blue.

It was during the early months of this year that this county, which had been always classed as a "cow county," showed evidences of minerals under the explorations of the prospector. Around Simmon's Springs, now known as Wilbur Springs, rich prospects of quicksilver were found, as also gold in paying quantities. Garnett & Co. found excellent indications of copper, but it was chiefly for gold and quicksilver that this locality afterwards became the scene of busy exploitation, as will be seen further on.

It will recall the memory of many old-timers to transcribe here the names of those who figured prominently in business or the professions. Among the attorneys were: D. Shepardson, J. C. Treadway, McQuaid & McQuaid, H. C. Street, F. L. Hatch, H. W. Dunlap, John A. Rush, C. C. Hazen, of Colusa, and H. Young, of Princeton, were practicing. John H. Liening was the proprietor of the Colusa House, and was also postmaster. U. S. Nye, of Frute, was introducing French Merino bucks, as was also Lew Byngton, and advertising them for sale. J. Hop Woods, a remarkably active man, conducted the Colusa Drug Store. Alex. McGregor and M. McDougald, as well as Jonas Baer, did the blacksmithing for the town. Louis Cary was in the store and tinware business. Marker & Corey conducted the Eagle Livery Stable, on C Street, near the United States Hotel. Goad & Jones carried on the Colusa Lumber Yard. Allen Pinkard spread himself as a tonsorial artist. George F. Jones was largely engaged in general merchandise. At Princeton the hotel was conducted by A. Munsel. James C. Carlisle carried on a dry goods and grocery store in the same village.

September 26, J. C. Addington and Will S. Green purchased the Weekly Colusa Sun, and at once began placing it in the front rank of journalism, as an able advocate of locality, conscientious in its intercourse with the public, and whose editor immediately attracted the attention of the press of the State for his originality of thought and method of expressing it.

October 3, W. F. Goad tendered his resignation as county clerk, and was succeded by Jackson Hart. October 15, two white men, named Richards and Stanley, engaged in a fight with some Indians, on Cortinez Creek. The former killed an Indian known as Captain Lewis, when the friends of the latter killed his white assailants. During the month of October, Rev. T. C. Barton, of the M. E. Church South, was sent back to this circuit by this conference Elder Pendegast was active in Baptist work and performing baptism by immersion, while the Catholics were deliberating whether they should erect a church at Colusa or Sycamore Slough.

Great excitement now prevailed, owing to the discovery of various copper lodes in Indian Valley. In November, more than two hundred miners had gathered here. Leads were located, and the croppings of some of these could be traced as much as twenty miles. Thinking that this locality must soon become a center of great activities for miners and copper smelters, a new town called Ashton was laid out, additions were made to it, and town lots became valuable. The Mary Union, Copper Hill and Pioneer were among the first companies to open up and develop their claims. Pack-trains, usually driven by Indians, were seen crossing the plains; loaded with copper ore, en route to San Francisco, for reduction or a mill-run test. An almost breathless interest in copper for a time took possession of the people, to the partial neglect of other affairs. Even the then postmaster of Colusa was so occupied in dreaming out fortunes in the mines that it was said of him that he one day forgot to open the mail on its arrival, and in an absent-minded moment of rapt copper-bound felicity, he sent the same mail back the way it came.

In Stony Creek district the excitement was at fever heat. Five hundred claims were recorded within a week. The recorder was occupied day and night with what proved to him for the time a veritable gold mine. A new district was formed west of Snow Mountain, ledges located, and the people had now grown wild with the fever for "copper feet." As new developments are made and machinery brought in, we will notice them in the order of their occurrence, though for a complete summary of this subject the reader is referred to a carefully-written article, prepared by Julius Weyand for this work.

The apportionment of the school fund made by the Board of Education, at Sacramento, on November 12, for the school districts of Colusa County, was as follows: Franklin, 51; Union, 62; Indian Valley, 43; Colusa No. 1, 75; Plaza, 42; Princeton, 14; Grand Island No. 3, 63; Grindstone, 17; Stony Creek, 32; Marion, 58; Grand Island No. I, no apportionment¯447 children, at 58 cents each, $259.26.

Coal was now being discovered in various localities along the Coast Range. A. R. Weaver, of Colusa, in company with others, located a claim on Big Stony Creek; and a company was incorporated at Marysville, to develop a coal bed located on Bear Creek, about two miles below Wilbur Springs. The capital stock of the company was $420,000. Some work and money were expended on these properties, but the quality of coal extracted not proving valuable, they were soon abandoned. Assessment for 1862, total valuation, $1,603,460. Assessment for 1863, total valuation, $1,545,261."

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Wondering how to edit this U.S. County Entry? The WikiProject U.S. Counties standards might help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambot (talk • contribs) 21:32, 26 July 2003 (UTC)

Linking
63.197.235.94 - I reverted your re-edits of my corrections. Please note that if a name in a link (especially an unsatisfied link to be later filled in) is overspecified it will not be likely to be found by article title. As city names tend to be not unique, these are always followed by the state name. However, well known major cities usually have a redirect - so that you may enter San Francisco and will get to the article San Francisco, California.

I have also satisfied the links, mostly with external references that I found by simple search engine and page navigation. I do not have time now for your Alameda County, California changes, so these are also reverted.

For example - Blackhawk Auto Museum. Only one of these - Blackhawk Auto Museum Blackhawk both incorrect and rather useless, as it is unlikely to be entered in an article search, and while more technically correct, Blackhawk Auto Museum, Blackhawk does not improve the situation much and Blackhawk Auto Museum, Blackhawk, California is even worse.

San Ramon train Museum is improperly capitalized - If the title seen at the site is capitalized, then this would be San Ramon Train Museum. There is no such museum, but there is a "San Ramon Valley Museum" located in a refurbished train station.

Lindsay Wildlife Museum Walnut Crk - no, we do not abbreviate Creek, and if we were to use the name for disambiguation purposes, it would be Lindsay Wildlife Museum, Walnut Creek. The city name is not required at this time.

Generically, if there is only one of something, say Fubar Towers located in Walnut Creek, California, Fubar Towers works fine. Now suppose there is discovered a Fubar Towers in some remote location. Fubar Towers then becomes a disambiguation page, pointing to the renamed original, now Fubar Towers (California), or some such (someone more expert than myself should be consulted concerning this name).

Rather than create twenty unsatisfied links as you have recently done, it would be better to write one article. You even broke the one link that I fixed (Mount Diablo) by putting editing it back to Mount Diablo State Park Danville Walnut Crk.

Your copying of display text from Mount Diablo State Park to Mt. Diablo State Park resulted in a junk article - no pictures. Besides, this is not the way it is done. Go to the Mt. Diablo State Park article and click on edit to see how it is done using a REDIRECT command. Just as with programming, it is bad to do the same thing in two locations - fixing anything is double the work, articles may diverge, and what the user gets is dependent upon the wording used.

So please think about studying and writing one article - for example, where is the San Ramon Valley Museum, what does it exhibit, include some pictures, link to the external web site so the viewer may get current operating hours, etc. Then link to the article from the appropriate places, replacing any external link references (replace single bracketing with double bracketing). By the way, if you are using a Macintosh you may turn on the built-in on-the-fly spell checker, which works when editing article text.

Also, It would be best if you registered as a user - you will find a lot of help in our community. It is also possible to communicate privately by e-mail. Your addition of information will be welcome if it does not degrade the article through too many misspellings, bad link names, bad link syntax, etc. I will try to get back to the Alameda article re-insert the material with proper links.

Best wishes, -- Leonard G. 05:58, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

(Trolling for 63.197.235.94) - Please stop entering unsatisfied links. Do some internet research to find the appropriate external link for park, museum, etc info. To see how a these links are written, use the edit button and read, then cancel or simply navigate elsewhere. I restored your previous edits in this article after correcting them. You are going all over the place, Philo, Mendocino, Animal, etc. and are making a lot of work for others. I prefer to believe that your work is well intentioned and not vandalism, though others have doubts. Failure to listen and modify your actions may result in your IP address being blocked. -- Leonard G. 03:49, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Native American section

 * Unlike the nomadic native American of the Great Plains it appears that these tribes did not incorporate warfare into their culture but were instead generally cooperative. Within these cultures the concept of individual or collective land ownership was nonexistent.

These sound like they could be "noble savage" factoids. Can anyone cite a source? -- Beland 21:01, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * As the culture and its values was not respected by either the first Spanish colonizers (who considered the natives both heathans to be converted to Christianity and easily enslavable labor) nor the second U.S.A occupiers (who did their best to exterminate them)

This is more than a little one-sided. -- Beland 21:01, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * But it is factual - In the early days of California statehood there were actually "Black Sundays", the sport on this day off was to ride out and hunt and kill any free natives. I'll get some sources Leonard G. 21:12, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * See also California 4th Grade Mission Project.

 * Certainly in other areas, there was hostility and violence on both sides, and disease also played a major role in facilitating the military subjugation of native peoples. I'd be interested to hear what various historians have to say about the influence of these factors in this particular area.  -- Beland 01:50, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the NPOV dispute tag, after removing the assertions about how the natives were treated by the Spanish and Americans who settled in the area. The discussion has been stale since March with no further editing or offer of evidence to support the idea that natives in Contra Costa County specifically suffered from Spanish oppression or American extermination beyond that generally true of all natives in California. This leaves little to dispute in the section.

To those who wish to edit the discussion of this section further, please remember that the article in question is about Contra Costa County specifically, not the treatment of indigenous populations in California by Spanish, Mexican and American settlers. --DSYoungEsq 23:05, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Expansion
Can anyone fill in the modern history of the native tribes, including the various casino controversies? -- Beland 01:50, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The "Technical innovators" and "Corporate headquarters" sections pique one's interest, but seem incomplete. Can anyone name any of the specific companies involved? -- Beland 01:57, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Early post-war period
Can anyone cite sources for the reasons behind suburban expansion in this period? This paragraph sounds like an off-hand analysis. -- Beland 01:51, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Much of the suburban expansion can be attributed to several factors:

 * White flight from urban areas becoming populated by Negro workers from the southern US employed as shipyard workers during WW ||. Although some of this flight may be attributed to cultural and racial bias, the primary driving factor was parental concern for obtaining a quality education - a bias that still exists and has been deepened by the extensive volunteering of both time and money to suburban school systems, combined with reduced support for public schools in general, much a consequence of Proposition 13.

 * The growth of the suburbs was aided by the rise of the personal automobile as a commuting device and the willingness and ability of the Dept. of Transportation to create state highways, these eventually becoming our modern freeway system. This was made possible by an excess of funding from gasoline taxes dedicated to road building and maintenance and a rather arrogant attitude on the part of CDOT (now CalTrans).

 * The availability of relatively cheap land, enabling the construction of large-lot subdivisions (1/4 acre). These could be relatively cheap to construct owing to relatively flat land not requiring extensive grading, they did not require sidewalks, and most of these suburban streets were not required to meet modern standards as to width, 33 ft widths being typical, nor modern drainage standards.

 * Relatively low costs due lower standard of habitability than now expected - despite a more severe climate than that of the immediate bay area, these houses were neither insulated nor air conditioned. While not economical to operate in the modern sense, natural gas for heating was relatively cheap and a fireplace was a standard amenity.

 * General prosperity in the post war period, especially among second and third generation immigrant families of European origins.

 * Prior to California's Proposition 13, most families would make several "upgrade" moves over a period of 12 to 16 years, living in from three to five owned houses. With constantly increasing housing values, equity built in one house could be used to found the down payment on the next, more expensive house. This was also an era of steadily rising standards of living, with wages outpacing the cost of living. To an certain extent the upgrade move was wise under these circumstances, as newer suburban housing increased in value faster than that older established neighborhoods, and prices in the later could sometimes stagnate if the social structure of the communities were not improving. Proposition 13 in the long run has significantly changed these dynamics, with fewer moves, more investment in improvements, and extensive gentrification in the more urban housing regions.

 * Attractiveness of the inland suburban lifestyle as compared to urban districts formerly established as "streetcar suburbs" of San Francisco. A typical move from Oakland to Walnut Creek would exchange a 50 year old two bedroom one bath 800 sq. ft. house with detached single car garage on a 2,500 sq. ft. lot for a new 1,200 sq. ft three bedroom one bath house with attached two car garage on a 10,000 sq. ft lot. This would prove to be especially attractive to families in the thick of the postwar "baby boom", where a working father, a stay-at-home mother, and three of four children would be considered a normal sized family. While such houses appear quite modest by modern housing standards, with small rooms and very limited closet space, these comprised a significant increase in habitability for the larger families that were becoming prevelant at the time.

 * Sources: personal experience. I have lived in the region since my birth (late 1930's) and have observed what I have stated.

 * Leonard G. 02:02, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * This is still great stuff, but can anyone incorporate more of it with reliable sources instead of this editor's obviously original research? 2600:1004:B16D:C243:B126:ED85:98AF:55D6 (talk) 02:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

Cities and Town list and Countybox list
Anybody want to add this very small community between Crockett and Rodeo to the cities and towns list? I believe Selby may be a census-designated place. Correct me if I'm wrong. --68.127.152.9 09:46, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

 * i agree all localities should be included if they are named and are a community, however i think it is even more important that North Richmond be added, it has a population of 14,000. Qrc2006 07:41, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

The "Places by population and race" and "Places by population and income" expandable tables are missing column headers that explain what each column describes. I assume the columns follow the order of the table above (Population, race, and income), but it would be much clearer with headers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.53.249.122 (talk) 16:12, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed this same thing, There are numbers and percentages in both of the tables, with no indication of what those numbers mean. The tables are useless without headers. 73.127.147.187 (talk) 17:31, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

Time Zone
Why does the time zone display as 'mountain' even though it says 'Pacific' in the text?68.223.77.240 17:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC) This an error the correct time zone should be Pacific. This error seems to be propagated across several of the California counties articles in the "time zone" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Special:Contributions/ (talk)

 * Good catch. Tracking that one down was interesting; looks OK now. --rich

Looking good, needs references
This article is looking pretty good in terms of how much information is provided. However, at this point it has no inline references (footnotes, citations) which would really help when you come to a statement that seems to be controversial. For example, it says that "all of the bayside portions opposite San Francisco, and Northern portions of Santa Clara County were given up to form Alameda County in 1853." But isn't Richmond on the bay? Or is this saying that Richmond is not opposite San Francisco? Anyway, good work. --Tinned Elk 23:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Mount Diablo section

 * Another point. This article is long. I would like to suggest that the Mt. Diablo portion of the article be shortened to Summary Style, and make sure that the material in the Contra Costa Article is in sync with the main Mount Diablo article. Having two long discussions tends to let them get out of sync. I can work on this if no one else is interested. --Tinned Elk 00:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

✅ I made sure that all info listed in this article was in the main article and summarized most important info here. --Tinned Elk 21:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

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County Pension Woes
I'd like to see mention of the huge pension/health care liability discussed recently for the county. The county's plan is CCCERA for Contra Costa County Employees' Retirement Association. Here is an older link, think it is now $2.6 billion.--Billymac00 (talk) 06:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Realignment of sections
I'm entering this as a justification for my recent changes to the Contra Costa County article, so that any and all discussion regarding these changes can be facilitated if necessary.

First, I NEVER do anything in Wiki without a good reason. The changes that I just made are for the purpose of bringing this article in-line with all other California county articles. Relocating the "Transportation infrastructure" section higher in the article served a two-fold purpose; first, to have the afore-mentioned uniformity between articles, and second, because when one reads about these adjacent places, the next logical question is "well how do I get there from here?"

I have been working on the transportation sections of all California county articles since 2006, mainly because I've driven most of these routes in my lifetime, and know where they lead... Edit Centric (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Ranchos
The current Rancho text seems to be too detailed for this page. I have added a simplified list of Contra Costa ranchos, and am suggesting deleting the old text (rest of this section). But leave that to others. Emargie (talk) 03:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Removed paragraph about Alameda County
I took out this paragraph:

 * Some of the inner suburbs accessible from highway 24 (such as Rockridge in north Oakland, Alameda County), in turn have become gentrified, offering easier access and shorter commutes to businesses that remained or established in San Francisco, particularly financial organizations.

First, it references a neighborhood in Oakland for some reason, which is not in Contra Costa County. Secondly, these assertions are opinions, rather than encyclopedic facts. I will try to find some better material for this section.

I am new to editing Wikipedia, so let me know if I have done anything wrong. I should 'be bold', right?

Tarastar42 (talk) 15:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)tarastar42

Marijuana
Anyone mind writing up about marijuana laws and medical marijuana laws/dispensaries in contra costa? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.49.238 (talk) 03:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Urban decay at the fringes
this paragraph appears as little other than conjecture, opinion and appears to explain its points solely by inference. Complaining about the economic inequalities seen in the county - which to be fair, are vast - seems to have little factual relevance to the article as a whole. None of the claims put forth are cited nor are they substantiated.

Bravotango (talk) 01:20, 8 September 2011 (UTC)bravotango

Pleasant Hill
Seems to be missing from the chart. Will have to fix it later if someone else doesn't get to it. Bastique ☎ call me! 00:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Sheriff Dept
If you help out in the Sheriff Dept and the sheriff gives you permission to do some thing get it in writting. They are very willing to turn on you and treat there volunteers like a criminal. Just saying. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.119.68.26 (talk) 16:29, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Contra Costa County name origin
In the interest of full disclosure, let me tell you that I don't go around looking for factual inaccuracies in Wikipedia, but when I believe I have found one, I usually feel compelled to look further on the subject.

For this entry, I took issue with a statement that appears twice regarding the origins of the name "Contra Costa", as it did not sound right that it would translate directly into "opposite shore or coast". I'm not a native Spanish speaker, but a quick dictionary search (wordreference.com or dictionary.com) seems to prove my point.

'Contra' is either a preposition or a noun, but not an adjective. 'Costa' is 'coast'. While the English word 'opposite' is also a preposition, its Spanish translation (as a preposition) would be 'enfrente de, frente a'; or 'in front of' in English. The English adjective 'opposite' could only be translated in Spanish (also as an adjective) as 'contrario'. Therefore, if the county was to be named due to its geographical location opposite San Francisco's coast, it should have been named 'Costa Contraria'. While 'Contra Costa' passes the same idea, it doesn't change the fact that it is, from a strict linguistic perspective, wrong.

I'm not trying to change the name of the county. I just thought it would be best to define on an encyclopedic entry that its name is a freely-adapted Spanish expression, not an actual one.

Furthermore, the only referenced source for the county's name origins links to the county's website. I could not find where on that website this information is located, but I could find an article by Jose Ignacio Rivera on another website that corroborates what is stated on this entry.

I kindly ask any native Spanish speaker to provide us an explanation for why 'Contra Costa' can be accepted as a correct translation for "opposite shore/coast". In case it cannot be accepted, but tolerated, I think it would be a sensible move to point it on the article.

I know this smells like original research, but I did not invent Spanish and its rules. I'm barely pointing out that 'contra costa' does not mean 'opposite shore' unless we're willing to broadly stretch the actual meaning of the words.

Ebacci EN (talk) 03:41, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

 * Right on! 2600:1004:B16D:C243:B126:ED85:98AF:55D6 (talk) 02:51, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

This contention seems rather dogmatic, especially coming from a non-speaker or non-native speaker who hasn't checked with a native informant. Languages vary from speaker to speaker, by geography and social groups, and over time. Native informants 250 years after the naming of the area, from wherever, can't really shed that much light on the origin of a name bestowed in the 18th century.

The idea that "Contra Costa" means the opposite side of the Bay seems pretty reasonable. According to this web page http://www.mdia.org/site/history/contra-costa-county-name-origin It was a Spanish explorer in 1770 who first talked about the "opposite side of the bay", and the name stuck. So maybe at that time, or in that guy's dialect, "contra" could be used like an adjective. Who knows, maybe the guy was a Portuguese, Basque or Croatian serving on a Spanish ship and his Spanish wasn't perfect. Point is, if it happened this way, somebody speaking Spanish on a Spanish ship said this, and others didn't think it was too weird to repeat. That would seem to make it an actual, rather than a "freely-adapted", expression. Anyway, who cares? It wouldn't be the only Spanish place name in California that's a bit incorrect or ungrammatical; Mission Viejo, for instance, should be Mission Vieja. Supposedly.

My documentation is even sketchier, but I thought "contra" was used in Spanish to describe situations where you had to tack instead of sail directly to a place. For example, if you the prevailing winds are going south, you have to tack far enough north first before catching that wind to take you south. I don't know about the winds in the bay, but I had heard that it was the Contra Costa because you couldn't sail straight there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.122.16 (talk) 21:17, 19 October 2018 (UTC)

By the way, if we're going to be this pedantic about grammar, maybe you shouldn't refer to yourself as behaving "kindly" when you ask for input from Spanish speakers. You're asking them to "kindly" help you out; you're not being kind! :-| 71.93.172.99 (talk) 15:40, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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"Indian" population
So, just about how many "Indians" (Native Americans) were there in the area in 1850? Only a few thousand? 32,000? 60,000 or more? The single paragraph about this would seem to suggest all of the above, which is obviously impossible, and seriously needs editing by someone with reliable sources. 2600:1004:B16D:C243:B126:ED85:98AF:55D6 (talk) 02:54, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

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Talk:Del Norte County, California

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Wondering how to edit this U.S. County Entry? The WikiProject U.S. Counties standards might help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambot (talk • contribs) 21:32, 26 July 2003 (UTC)

""Pronunciation""
I was driving thru last week and heard on the car radio the place pronounced as 'Del Nort' rather than as in Spanish. Does someone know the local or official pronunciation? Benjamin Trovato (talk) 02:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
 * That is indeed the local pronunciation. --Satyricrash (talk) 01:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Dear friends, I have a concern about the common misconception related to Del Norte's pronunciation. The article seems to assert that the Spanish pronunciation is the standard we should be pointing to. However, I think that since the area was founded by Portuguese settlers, the pronunciation is derived from Portuguese. I wish to strike the mentioning of Spanish, or connect the addition made by biblioxica about Portuguese — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikisbaldivia (talk • contribs) 20:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your interest in improving Wikipedia. A reliable source is needed regarding the source of the pronunciation. Asserting this through original research will not work. Cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 21:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * The two-syllable pronunciation of Del Norte is not derived from Portuguese; I'm from Del Norte and remember hearing people make this claim growing up, but I think it is just a local legend. In Portuguese the name would be "Do Norte" and "Norte" would be pronounced as something like "nor-chee" not "nort" (cf. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/norte#Portuguese). The contraction "del" (de + el) seems evidence that it's simply an anglicization of a Spanish place name (see https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/del#Spanish )--the kind you see all over California in "Los Angeles" as /lɔːs ˈændʒələs/ or "Los Feliz" as /lɔːs ˈfiːlɪz/. A similar thing seems to be happening to a town in Colorado also called Del Norte: https://www.9news.com/article/news/local/next/what-do-you-say-how-do-you-pronounce-del-norte/73-403062186. Theverisimilar (talk) 19:00, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Over-View section
This section is definitely not per Wiki format of article development. Generalizations need supportive citation in specific headings related to County articles and all of the information either needs to be moved to proper wiki headings or removed. It is important to note that Wikipedia is NOT the place for travel guide type writing. It is an encyclopedia. Please discuss. Within several days these changes will need to start to occur. Norcalal 06:49, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

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