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County, Georgia Pays Hackers $400,000 After Ransomware Attack
Jackson County, Georgia Pays Hackers $400,000 After Ransomware Attack — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falkmart (talk • contribs) 17:06, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

County Pays Hackers $400,000 After Ransomware Attack
i miss that County Pays Hackers $400,000 After Ransomware Attack. https://www.dataprivacyandsecurityinsider.com/2019/03/jackson-county-georgia-pays-hackers-400000-after-ransomware-attack/ --Falkmart (talk) 17:07, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

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Why did half of the population leave between 1920 and 1930? 71.8.96.226 (talk) 01:07, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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Real son
Why no mention of his children? Did I just miss it? 70.51.30.244 (talk) 01:12, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Since there is info on his kids available, I assume there is a policy regarding the inclusion of info on the spouses and children of notorious guys like Manson. Yes? No? Homeboy (talk) 16:44, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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The 'early life' section says "in an attempt to life honestly". That is a typo. "Life" should be changed to "live" SenatorMS (talk) 20:48, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅. Thank you! RegentsPark (comment) 20:51, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

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I'd like to add "The Book of Manson" (1989) by Raymond Pettibon to the list of fiction inspired by Manson. Here is the IMDB entry https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096967/ Devinludwig (talk) 20:06, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

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Can anyone kindly remind me what the Wikipedia policy standard is regarding the infobox photo of deceased persons? Is it always required to use a “prime of life” or younger photo rather than their more recent / elderly one? Aliy Dawut (talk) 19:31, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

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Named for Thomas Jefferson
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Via WP:BOLD, I am changing this to read "named for Thomas Jefferson, the main author of the Declaration of Independence who became the third president of the United States." Truthanado (talk) 22:59, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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7 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 1 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 2 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 3 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 4 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 5 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 6 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 7 (You are here.) Talk:New Imperialism/archive 8 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 9 Talk:New Imperialism/Linking to the alternative version from the top of the article Talk:New Imperialism/archive 10 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 11 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 12 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 13 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 14 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 15 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 16 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 17 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 18 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 19 Talk:New Imperialism/archive 20

This entry is WAY too long. - erzengel 15 Apr 2003 1133 UTC

I’m sorry that the entry on New Imperialism was a bit lengthy, but this was a very complex era of history and very much a global phenomenon that cannot be explained by easy answers. The language is already dense and succinct as well. A shorter version would be left laden with reductionisms, sweeping generalizations, and over-simplifications (a twice-banned user tried that, and the results were horrendous). Or it would just be a basic chronology of myriad disparate events, trends, and developments that would not seem, to any lay reader, interconnected with each other or even related to the subject matter of New Imperialism. Or it would just give an overview of what happened without illuminating why it happened or giving readers prerequisite background and context needed to be able to judge for themselves why this epoch of history unfolded the way it did. While I’m sure that there’s room for improvement, a brief offhand criticism on the basis of length will do little to enhance the readability of the article.

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 * I understand your reservations. But I'm sure it would be possible to split the article (as opposed to dumbing it down). Sorry if the comment above sounded a bit n00bic. erzengel 15 Apr 2003 1533 UTC

--- That would be far too drastic. As it is, each section of the article builds on the previous section. If you spit the article up you’d end up having much more content. Some development explained at the beginning of the page would have to be re-explained in a new article not containing that content. For instance, references the "breakdown of the concert for Europe" or the "breakdown of Pax Britannica" would have to be explained over and over again in many separate articles that would make references to these developments. I’m sympathetic to your cause, but it would be a far better idea to focus on readability rather than length.

Sadly, the article would probably be more readable if it were longer, which would mean that the prose wouldn’t have to be so dense.

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User:172 threatened me after I linked some words to various articles. I thought this was a bit extreme... He apparently thinks Im some other user who removed text (apparently several users have tried to edit this page) and, since the page most definitely is too large (50+k) I think its hightime somebody remove some of 172s text. Pizza Puzzle

 * This article certainly needs to be split, as it is at such a size that some users will not be able to edit it. There's no need to remove material, however - if there is no better way, it can simply be broken down the middle into New Imperialism part 1 and New Imperialism part 2 (as done with British Penny part 1 through British Penny part 4). --Camembert

Examining the edit history it seems that a user:Vera Cruze, some time ago created theories of imperialism and he moved text there (the latter half of this article greatly consists of the various theories of various individuals) as well as to imperialism. Then he just gave up...I can't blame him seeing the trouble I ran into just trying to  some words. Pizza Puzzle

- Lir/Vera/Pizza Puzzle: If you start butchering this article once again, the only thing that’s going to be removed is you. I'll protect this page; the content will be restored; and you'll be banned. New Imperialism got Vera Cruz banned. It's only a matter of time before it gets you banned. 172

 * 172, I am also advocating splitting the page into smaller parts, please don't turn this into an "us versus them" argument. This article needs to be split up in some way, as it is too big for some users to edit - once an article gets larger than 32KB, some users have trouble saving it after an edit - the end of the article gets chopped off. This is why the length of this article has to be reduced. You are probably more knowledgable than others on the subject of the article (certainly more knowledgable than me), so could you break it up in a way that makes sense? If you don't want to, then that's fine, I'll do it, but I probably won't do it as well. It does need to be done by somebody, however, or certain people aren't going to be able to edit it at all. --Camembert

--- Camembert:

Thanks for your concern. I will break this up into a series. In fact, I've done that to a number of long articles, such as the History of the US and USSR. I plan to do this for Cold War and Great Depression as well. And I'm working on a series for the history of Brazil. See History of Russia for an example of the charts for the series that I've been adding. But it's been like this for months and it's not urgent.

Vera Cruz/Pizza Puzzle, however, cannot be involved. The last time he (Vera Cruz=Pizza Puzzle) tried to hijack this article he started off by pretending to be polite and constructive, but the results are disastrous. See the mailing list and the talk page history for evidence of this. Or ask Jtdril or Tannin why I would be so mortified that PP has an expressed an interest in 'removing some of 172's text.' Tannin, in particular, remembers the Vera Cruz/New Imperialism disaster vividly. 172

Please, spare us from the series concept. Nobody reads all the way through them anyway, so it's just a waste of effort. It's a mark of skill to be able to summarize key issues succinctly, and to provide cross-references to logically connected articles. This article would easily break up into "overview", multiple "history", and multiple "theories" articles. For instance, there should be a Scramble for Africa that is readily accessible to readers interested in Africa, but also gainfully employed and without the spare time to ponder World systems theory and the other dubious theories, plus which it will be a more relevant link than New Imperialism. If for instance I'm a stamp collector interested in understanding British Central Africa, I'm much more likely to link to Scramble for Africa than New Imperialism; the latter title positively screams "Marxist revisionist history" with lots of big hard-to-understand words. :-) But this is all just a suggestion; I don't want to deal with 172 trying to get me banned for disagreeing with him, so I'm not going to touch this article myself, not even to fix the obvious mistakes. Stan 00:59 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Stan I reccomend that text go to imperialism and theories of imperialism with stuff on Cecil Rhodes going there and stuff on the Congo Free State going there...etc etc Pizza Puzzle

- Well, we historians take the past seriously, as well as the contributions of the theorists of political science, economics, sociology, and so forth. I'm sorry that we're concerned with things other than postage stamps. I suggest that you start an article on the history of stamps and leave me alone for not writing about stamps in such an article as this one. 172

 * That wasn't how I read Stan's message - I think he just meant that for somebody writing about, say, British Central Africa, a link to an article specifically on the Scramble for Africa is more pertinent than a link to a more general article on New Imperialism, and that for the non-specialist a series of short articles is easier to take in than a single long one. --Camembert

--- 50 KB! Please learn how to summarize events - this is an encyclopedia. The detail should be spun off into daughter articles and the main points summarized here. The "series" idea is just a technical hack that leaves a useless list of links on the main page (such as at History of the United States - I'm tempted to restore a much older version to serve as a summary of US history that fits on one sub-30KB page). I just hope large chucks of text in this article not duplicated is a half dozen other articles - you've done that before 172 and it is very annoying. That is what hyperlinks and the ability to summarize are for.--mav 02:21 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Thanks to Lir/Vera this has turned into an attack 172 free-for-all, hasn't it? I'm tempted to just say to hell with it all and leave this site for good. Long before I created the series for the History of the United States, there were series for German and Russian history. People have even suggested that such a series be created for the history of China. Some people have respect for history. Others don't. Some users think that history is relevant. Others want a few facts for trivia. I'm not the only one who has praised the idea of historical series. So far, you and Stan are the only two of whom I'm aware who have such a contempt for the series. Perhaps, it's personal, since I'm involved with the US one. 172

 * Oh stop it with the strawmen please, 172. I didn't take issue with the content but the unusable length and organization (that is, "everything in one page" organization). And History of Germany is a very good example of splitting up content - that is not comparable to History of the United States (which is just a list of links). History of Russia is, IMO, just as bad as the American counterpart - it has no content on the main page. History of Germany does. That is the whole point. When you said "series" the History of the United States article came to mind. And it is a bit insulting to say that that is wanting "trivia" over real history or that I don't have "respect" for history. It is valid complaint about an unmanageably long article - that's all. --mav

 * I didn't mean you, Mav. You'd be one of the last people for whom that would be true. You are extremely knowledgeable and well-rounded, well-versed in a huge array of subjects: history, politics, humanities, natural science, etc. Next to you, I'm just a narrow specialist. I'm just talking about people with that mentality in general. I wrote this statement, over-reacting to being criticized by three people on a single talk-page, misunderstanding your point about the series. Now that I know that you have the history of Germany page in mind as a model, I realize that our positions are exactly the same. Sorry for the misunderstandings. 172

 * WikiHug. I'm sorry too. --mav

Just for the record: I personally am not very bothered about how this article gets split up, so long as it is split up. My only concern is that, as it stands, the article is uneditable for some users. --Camembert

Neither am I. Look at the History of Germany series, a model for those interested in in-depth, scholarly, and complete surveys of history. 172

 * Indeed the Germany history is a good example of how to partition usefully. I mentioned postage stamps because many collectors are curious about the history behind their little pieces of paper, and Wikipedia has the potential to connect the hobby interest to the historical context. In particular, 19th century imperialism drove the development of postal systems worldwide, and the stamps in collectors' albums today are mute but concrete evidences of that process. Stan 05:47 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

theories of imperialism has duplicate text from this page. Pizza Puzzle

Here is a "temp"; don't let it go to waste. New_Imperialism (temp) Some text, such as the long "definition of imperialism" paragraph at New Imperialism can be moved to imperialism -- other text has been moved to theories of imperialism -- topic specific text on the Panic of 1893 or the Congo Free State or Cecil Rhodes...or....or...etc can be reinserted at those appropriate locations. I urge you to read New Imperialism very closely and you will find some amusing things (not to mention a migraine headache). Pizza Puzzle

Why did 172 just delete a redirect? There was nothing wrong with it, was there? -- Tim Starling 06:37 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Was it a redirect that I made? Pizza Puzzle

 * No, I made the redirect, by moving New Imperialism/templol to New Imperialism (temp). (Moving leaves a redirect behind.) כסיף Cyp 13:04 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

But I made the original page right? 172 doesn't want anybody to see the alternate version of this page. Please try and read New Imperialism -- i am sure you will want to edit it; thus understanding why I made a temp page (since 172 wont let you edit this page). Pizza Puzzle

 * Both versions seem to be about history, and, I can't read more than a couple of sentences of either, without falling asleep. (History isn't my strong point, especially at this time of day.) So I have no idea which is better, and can't comment. I don't get the urge to edit either version, since me editing either article would be as useful as a thousand monkeys with typewriters editing the article. (Assuming the monkeys didn't know English.) If someone could make a version that uses lots of integrals and vectors and no politics, then maybe I'd prefer that version. כסיף Cyp 22:15 23 Jul 2003 (UTC)

This is absurd. I never had a problem with people editing this article. It's just that the version that Pizza Puzzle, the user formally known as Vera Cruz, wants to restore is just incoherent and unacceptable. 172

You need to stop calling me by other names, you have long since crossed the "line of abuse". I have never tried to restore any version. Pizza Puzzle

my article is neither intended only for laymen, nor is it a summary -- mine is a FULL article -- this one is just rambling Pizza Puzzle

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Stephen Timoshenko

Stepan Prokopovich Timoshenko (Степан Прокопович Тимошенко; Степан Прокофьевич Тимошенко; December 22 1878 – May 29, 1972), later known as Stephen Timoshenko, was an ethnic Ukrainian,  citizen of the Russian Empire    and later, an American engineer and academician.

He is considered to be the father of modern engineering mechanics. An inventor and one of the pioneering mechanical engineers at the St. Petersburg Polytechnic University. A founding member of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, Timoshenko wrote seminal works in the areas of engineering mechanics, elasticity and strength of materials, many of which are still widely used today. Having started his scientific career in the Russian Empire, Timoshenko emigrated to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes during the Russian Civil War and then to the United States.

Biography
Timoshenko was born in the village of Shpotovka, Uyezd of Konotop in the Chernigov Governorate which at that time was a territory of the Russian Empire (today in Konotop Raion, Sumy Oblast of Ukraine).

He studied at a Realschule (реальное училище) in Romny, Poltava Governorate (now in Sumy Oblast) from 1889 to 1896. In Romny his schoolmate and friend was future famous semiconductor physicist Abram Ioffe. Timoshenko continued his education towards a university degree at the St. Petersburg State Transport University. After graduating in 1901, he stayed on teaching in this same institution from 1901 to 1903 and then worked at the Saint Petersburg Polytechnical Institute under Viktor Kirpichov 1903–1906. In 1905, he was sent for one year to the University of Göttingen where he worked under Ludwig Prandtl.

In the fall of 1906, he was appointed to the Chair of Strengths of Materials at the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute. The return to his native Ukraine turned out to be an important part of his career and also influenced his future personal life. From 1907 to 1911, as a professor at the Polytechnic Institute he did research in the earlier variant of the Finite Element Method of elastic calculations, the so-called Rayleigh method. During those years he also pioneered work on buckling, and published the first version of his famous Strength of Materials textbook. He was elected dean of the Division of Structural Engineering in 1909.

In 1911 he signed a protest against Minister for Education Kasso and was fired from the Kyiv Polytechnic Institute. In 1911 he was awarded the D. I. Zhuravski prize of the St. Petersburg State Transport University that helped him survive after losing his job. He went to St Petersburg where he worked as a lecturer and then a Professor in the Electrotechnical Institute and the St Petersburg Institute of the Railways (1911–1917). During that time he developed the theory of elasticity and the theory of beam deflection, and continued to study buckling. In 1918 he returned to Kyiv and assisted Vladimir Vernadsky in establishing the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences – the oldest academy among the Soviet republics other than Russia. In 1918–1920 Timoshenko headed the newly established Institute of Mechanics of the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences, which today carries his name.

After the Armed Forces of South Russia of general Denikin had taken Kyiv in 1919, Timoshenko moved from Kyiv to Rostov-on-Don. After travel via Novorossiysk, Crimea and Constantinople to the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes, he arrived in Zagreb, where he got professorship at the Zagreb Polytechnic Institute. In 1920, during the brief liberation of Kyiv from Bolsheviks, Timoshenko traveled to the city, reunited with his family and returned with his family to Zagreb.

He is remembered for delivering lectures in Russian while using as many words in Croatian as he could; the students were able to understand him well.

United States
In 1922, Timoshenko moved to the United States where he worked for the Westinghouse Electric Corporation from 1923 to 1927, after which he became a faculty professor in the University of Michigan where he created the first bachelor's and doctoral programs in engineering mechanics. His textbooks have been published in 36 languages. His first textbooks and papers were written in Russian; later in his life, he published mostly in English. In 1928 he was an Invited Speaker of the ICM in Bologna. From 1936 onward he was a professor at Stanford University. He was elected to the American Philosophical Society in 1939 and the United States National Academy of Sciences in 1940.

Timoshenko's younger brothers, architect Serhii (Sergius Timoshenko, Ukrainian Minister of Transport, participant in the 1921 Second Winter Campaign against the Soviet regime, and member of the Polish Senate), and economist Volodymyr, both immigrated to the United States as well.

In 1957, ASME established a medal named after Stephen Timoshenko; he became its first recipient. The Timoshenko Medal honors Stephen P. Timoshenko as the world-renowned authority in the field of mechanical engineering and it commemorates his contributions as author and teacher. The Timoshenko Medal is given annually for distinguished contributions in applied mechanics. In 1960 he moved to Wuppertal, West Germany to be with his daughter.

In addition to his textbooks, in 1963 Timoshenko wrote a book Engineering Education in Russia and an autobiography, As I Remember in the Russian language. It was translated into English in 1968 by sponsorship of Stanford University. Jacob Pieter Den Hartog, who was Timoshenko's co-worker in the early 1920s at Westinghouse, wrote a review in the magazine Science stating that  "between 1922 and 1962 he [S.P. Timoshenko] wrote a dozen books on all aspects of engineering mechanics, which are in their third or fourth U.S. edition and which have been translated into half a dozen foreign languages each, so that his name as an author and scholar is known to nearly every mechanical and civil engineer in the entire world.. Then, Den Hartog stressed: "There is no question that Timoshenko did much for America. It is an equally obvious truth that America did much for Timoshenko, as it did for millions of other immigrants for all over the world. However, our autobiographer has never admitted as much to his associates and pupils who, like myself often have been pained by his casual statements in conversation. That pain is not diminished by reading these statements on the printed page and one would have wished for a little less acid and a little more human kindness."

The celebrated theory that takes into account shear deformation and rotary inertia was developed by Timoshenko in collaboration with Paul Ehrenfest. Thus it is referred to as Timoshenko-Ehrenfest beam theory. This fact was testified by Timoshenko. The interrelation between Timoshenko-Ehrenfest beam and Euler-Bernoulli beam theory was investigated in the book by Wang, Reddy and Lee.

He died in 1972 and his ashes are buried in Alta Mesa Memorial Park, Palo Alto, California.

Eduard Ivanovich Grigolyuk (1923—2005) wrote several  papers devoted to S.P. Timoshenko’s life and  work. He also composed two books about him. Elishakoff et al. wrote several articles investigating S.P. Timoshenko’s scientific activities and the question of the priority.

An archive of his manuscripts, letters, and handwritten materials are available online.

List of doctoral students in the U.S.
Timoshenko remembered his students in his autobiography:
 * University of Michigan
 * Coates, W. M., (1929)
 * Donnell, L. H., (1930)
 * Billevicz, V., (1931)
 * Everett, F. L., (1931)
 * Frocht, M. M., (1931)
 * Goodier, J. N., (1931)
 * Brandeberry, J. B., (1932)
 * MacCullough, G. H., (1932)
 * Jamieson, J., (1933)
 * Taylor, W. H., (1933)
 * Verse, G. L., (1933)
 * Vesselowsky, S. T., (1933)
 * Weibel, E. E., (1933)
 * Jakkula, A. A., (1934)
 * Maugh, L. C., (1934)
 * Schoonover, R. H., (1934)
 * Way, S., (1934)
 * Wojtaszak, I. A., (1934)
 * Allan, G. W. C., (1935)
 * Horger, O. J., (1935)
 * Maulbetsch, J. L., (1935)
 * Miles, A. J., (1935)
 * Young, D. H., (1935)
 * Anderson, C. G., (1936)
 * Fox, E. N., (1936)
 * Hetenyi, M. I., (1936)
 * Hogan, M. B., (1936)
 * Marin, J., (1936)
 * Zahorski, A. T., (1937)

 * Stanford University

 * Bergman, E. O., (1938)
 * Kurzweil, A. C., (1940)
 * Lee, E. H., (1940)
 * Huang, Y. S., (1941)
 * Wang, T. K., (1941)
 * Weber, H. S., (1941)
 * Hoff, N. J., (1942)
 * Popov, E. P., (1946)
 * Chilton, E. G., (1947)

Publications

 * Applied Elasticity, with J. M. Lessells, D. Van Nostrand Company, 1925
 * Vibration Problems in Engineering, D. Van Nostrand Company, 1st Ed. 1928, 2nd Ed. 1937, 3rd Ed. 1955 (with D. H. Young)
 * Strength of Materials, Part I, Elementary Theory and Problems, D. Van Nostrand Company, 1st Ed. 1930, 2nd Ed. 1940, 3rd Ed. 1955
 * Strength of Materials, Part II, Advanced Theory and Problems, D. Van Nostrand Company, 1st Ed. 1930, 2nd Ed. 1941, 3rd Ed. 1956
 * Theory of Elasticity , McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1st Ed. 1934, 2nd Ed. 1951 (with J. N. Goodier), 3rd Ed. 1970 (with J.N. Goodier)
 * Elements of Strength of Materials, D. Van Nostrand Co., 1st Ed. 1935, 2nd Ed. 1940, 3rd Ed. 1949 (with G.H. MacCullough), 4th Ed. 1962 (with D.H. Young)
 * Theory of Elastic Stability, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1st Ed. 1936, 2nd Ed. 1961 (with J. M. Gere)
 * Engineering Mechanics, with D.H. Young, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1st Ed. 1937, 2nd Ed. 1940, 3rd. Ed. 1951, 4th Ed. 1956
 * Theory of Plates and Shells , McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1st Ed. 1940, 2nd Ed. 1959 (with S. Woinowsky-Krieger)
 * Theory of Structures, with D. H. Young, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1st Ed. 1945, 2nd Ed. 1965
 * Advanced Dynamics, with D. H. Young, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1948
 * History of The Strength of Materials, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1953
 * Engineering Education in Russia, McGraw-Hill Book Company, 1959
 * As I Remember, D. Van Nostrand, 1968, ASIN: B000JOIJ7I
 * Mechanics of Materials, with J. M. Gere, 1st edition, D. Van Nostrand Company, 1972
 * Erinnerungen, Translation from the Russian original edition (Translator: Albert Duda), Berlin: Wiley, 2006, ISBN 3-433-01816-2 (in German)

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El Loco

El Loco is the seventh studio album by the American rock band ZZ Top, released in 1981. It foreshadowed the band's extensive usage of synthesizers on Eliminator, Afterburner, and to a lesser extent, Recycler, by way of employing a synthesizer on a couple tracks, played by an uncredited Linden Hudson.

Background
El Loco was produced by Bill Ham and recorded and originally mixed by Terry Manning. The biographer David Blayney explains in his book Sharp Dressed Men that the recording engineer Linden Hudson was involved as a pre-producer on this album. Hudson did not receive credit for engineering the tracks on "Groovy Little Hippie Pad" which were used on the final album mix. In 1987, most of the band's back catalog received a controversial "digitally enhanced" remix treatment for CD release; however, El Loco did not receive this remix treatment and the original mix of the album has been available on CD since 1987.

On June 3, 2013, Gibbons told Joe Bosso of MusicRadar.com that the album was "a really interesting turning point", explaining that the band had "befriended somebody who would become an influential associate, a guy named Linden Hudson. He was a gifted songwriter and had production skills that were leading the pack at times. He brought some elements to the forefront that helped reshape what ZZ Top were doing, starting in the studio and eventually to the live stage. [He] had no fear and was eager to experiment in ways that would frighten most bands. But we followed suit, and the synthesizers started to show up on record. Manufacturers were looking for ways to stimulate sales, and these instruments started appearing on the market. One of our favorite tracks was "Groovy Little Hippie Pad". Right at the very opening, there it is – the heavy sound of a synthesizer. For us, there was no turning back." Gibbons would later cite seeing a Devo soundcheck in Houston as inspiring the synthesizer line on "Groovy Little Hippie Pad." However, Blayney described in his book how Hudson had composed and performed the synthesizer parts at the band's studio in Texas, a tape of which was taken to Memphis to be mixed into the final version of the song, without being credited. The double entendres on "Tube Snake Boogie" and "Pearl Necklace" are barely disguised, while much of the record plays as flat-out goofy party rock.

Critical reception
The Boston Globe wrote: "Instead of sticking to inventive boogie chops, producer Bill Ham has refined the material until only 'It's So Hard' with Billy Gibbon's scratchy guitar rises above the Ham's laundering process." The Globe and Mail opined that "the rhythm section of Dusty Hill and Frank Beard is doubtless the most pervasive around."

Track listing
All lead vocals by Billy Gibbons, except where noted.

Personnel

 * Billy Gibbons – guitar, vocals
 * Dusty Hill – bass, vocals
 * Frank Beard – drums, percussion
 * Linden Hudson – synthesizers (uncredited)

Production

 * Producer – Bill Ham
 * Engineer – Terry Manning
 * Pre-production engineer - Linden Hudson
 * Mastering – Bob Ludwig
 * Design – Bob Alford
 * Photography – Bob Alford

title: El Loco


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