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Talk:Eddie McGuire

Misc
I see my add about Eddie as Humphrey B Bear in 12th man finally deleted after adding it 3 years ago. Hehe, finally every add I've ever made to wikipedia has been removed. Skinhat

For more info see Media Man Australia @http://www.mediaman.com.au/profiles/mcguire.html

Thanks for tidying that up and shifting the CNNNN piece lower. I can't say I've ever heard him called Toorak Eddie. Is this commonly used? Grimhim 20:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I'd like to hear a bit about his childhood, which is not yet mentioned in the intire article. I remember hearing that he was born and raised in Broadmedows, as well as having attended Broadmedows high school, which should be mentioned.

I think his incompetency as Nine Network CEO needs some more detail.

In the 'Football media' section the page says "Despite Lane's resignation, Friday Night Football proved a huge success for Channel Nine," but there is no previous mention of Lane or his resignation, and no first name to indicate who Lane is. Again, in the 'CEO of the Nine Network' section, it says "McGuire's decision to force Wendt off the Sunday program backfired with the relaunch of the show on 3 September 2006", with no previous mention of Wendt or the Sundayshow. I can only presume it is Jana, but the first name should be used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.105.213.122 (talk) 22:10, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

"Eddie's a wanker"
The edit that I added refering to the Port Adelaide crowd chanting "Eddies a wanker" is not vandalism! This is a good example of how Eddie is percieved by some football fans as well as how football fans react to someone they don't like. Adding to this the incident was also recorded in the Melbourne newspaper "The Age" hence it has a reliable source, and therefore was a real incident that is worth noting. I find it interesting that this was the only externally referenced piece of information on the page and it was removed! Does Eddie have Wikipedia editing goons?

Clearly the answer to your question is, "Yes".

The more significant questions are who, and why?

NPOV
On from "In May 2006, McGuire traveled..." there seems to be a bias view including "The locals were quite peeved". Last time I checked "peeved" isn't even a word. There are also no links to articles to support these clams. And there is no mention of the fund raising that has been promoted by the Nine Network which leads me to think once again that this is nothing more then a bias paragraph. The changes made by Billyharrison on 9th May 2006 seems to be less bias to the current article. Lodders 10:36, May 11 (AEST)

Thanks to Billyharrison, for fixing that up, lets hope it stays that way.Lodders 11:11, May 12 (AEST)

Fair bit of Eddie-Bashing here. Removed the following baseless opinion:

Moreover, his well-honed 'good guy' image has been irretrievably tarnished, making a return to on-air duties unlikely.

And this assumption around "popular culture"

 "Most newpaper headlines featuring his name now routinely link it to the word 'bone' or 'boning'."''

I've got no great love for the man but let's try to keep the bias out of this. NoBias 7:16, September 29 2006(AEST)

Lodders: FYI, peeved is definitely a real word, in relatively common use (see http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/peeved). ojitarian 13:19, November 16 2006 (AEST)

Old NPOV
OK...why is there an NPOV notice in this page? I checked the discussion page and nothing came up on the NPOV...BigDan 11:57, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Public speculation
According to the PBL website, it doesn't just control the Nine Network (which it could if it owned 51% of it); it owns it. Grimhim 07:10, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Or, if you need a link to confirm this: []Grimhim 10:11, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Autism
Is this thing about autism real, or is it a surruptitious vandalization? Also, PBL owns 45% of Channel 9, which gives it effective control. But it doesn't own it outright. You can still buy Channel 9 shares! :) - Richardcavell 10:58, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I've deleted the autism reference. I can't find anything published anywhere that suggests this. It sounds mischievous. And I'm baffled by your view, Richardcavell, that PBL is a minority shareholder in Nine but somehow "effectively controls" it. The network is 100% owned by PBL. PBL appoints its CEO. Nine is not a listed company. Unless you're aware of something that's so far eluded the ASX or James Packer, the only way to buy shares in Nine is by buying shares in PBL. But all means point me to a good source if you can find evidence to the contrary. Grimhim 03:16, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * You're right. Nine was delisted on 9/11/1994.  *Bangs Head*.  - Richardcavell 09:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

WWTBAM host
The article is incorrect. WWTBAM had a different host initially - an older man with grey hair. I clearly remember watching the first episodes in 1999 and it had a different host. Davez621 13:16, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

I think you're confusing this with Frank Warrick, the Brisbane Channel 7 newsreader, who hosted "Million $ Chance of a Lifetime" on Seven. The show went head to head with Eddie's for a season before Seven conceded defeat.Grimhim 23:41, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

'bone' = sack?
When has the colloquial 'bone' EVER meant sack? Whilst the intention may have been to fire Rowe, the statement would most commonly be interpreted as a sexual reference. --Stickyweb 08:10, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

You're right. "Bone" means "fuck", it doesn't mean "sack".

Not any more! The funny thing is, Eddie got Boned himself!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.59.71 (talk) 04:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

CEO resignation
Can't find any web as yet to this, but this is true. -- glasnt <3  03:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

No, that report is false. Eddie was sacked (or to use his terminology "boned").

9 vs. Nine
I think it's fine to say "Channel 9", but when shortening it to just the number, it should be Nine, not 9. I've made some edits accordingly. JackofOz 01:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Resignation
Eddie McGuire is the outgoing CEO of Nine, he has not yet left the position and will not officially step down until june 30, 2007.

(Jones234Jones 10:23, 18 May 2007 (UTC))

Get your facts straight Jonesy - Eddie was sacked, he did not "resign".

Image
This article badly needs a photo. ROxBo 22:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Definitely. Put it on Requested pictures and you may get one.  Chicken - 7   11:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Not really. Do we really need to see his smug, supercilious face? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.59.71 (talk) 04:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: deleted content
Popular culture

Yesterday I added this under the heading of popular culture, unfortunatly someone saw fit to remove it:

" In 2006 the Australian Musical Comic Sammy J (aka Sam McMillan) released a satirical song, entitled "The Eddie McGuire Song". It makes the allegation that McGuire once raped him, and challenges McGuire to deny it. The truth of the allegation is not known, it is assumed to created as a joke but McGuire is yet to rise to the bait.

A version of the song is available on Sammy J MySpace at http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=93459383 "

It's all true and verifiable if you follow the link, I just don't know how to embed it as a reference in wiki code. Could someone please do that instead of arbitrarily deleting true and relevant information. Also see www.sammy-j.com as evidence.

Thanks

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'Close to three-quarter time calls'?
You might be interested to find that the match in question took place in 2002, and not 2003 as was stated in the article (edited). This can be told due to the fact that the Port Adelaide players are wearing the teal strip which the Power opted to don for the clash (round nine, 2002, Friday Night Football, Collingwood gave the Power an early start before clawing to within a kick, Anthony Rocca narrowly failing to tie the scores with half a minute remaining).

Is it actually a controversy? Labelled an 'embarassing error', wouldn't all sporting commentators have had moments like these? One to ponder... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnson 26 (talk • contribs) 11:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Tony Hancock
There is a slight facial resemblance to the late British comedian Tony Hancock. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.74.250.143 (talk) 12:33, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

New Section for "eddie haters"
From reading the discussion page I suspect a lot of "Eddie haters" are desperate to add their two cents on the article, and lets be honest they are not Collingwood Magpie supporters. Can I suggest to the rightful author of the Eddie McGuire article to actually create a new Section called "Eddie McGuire Football Controversies" to the affect. I think this would satisfy most haters as their would be frenzy of additions and edits. The recent Collingwood Grand Final win will certainly add further interest to this proposed section. --211.27.67.46 (talk) 15:13, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't encourage a criticism and controversy section. They never make articles better. Just watch the edits closely. HiLo48 (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * I'm a Collingwood supporter and I dislike Eddie, but this article is not the place to air that. #notmypresident --118.200.160.78 (talk) 01:09, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

"Business entrepreneur"?
I have removed the words 'business entrepreneur' and replaced them with game show host. If anyone knows any business he has started please add it, otherwise this statement is untrue. Although he was CEO of Channel 9 this does not make him a entrepreneur. Also I put sports journalist, instead of just 'journalist' as I think this more accurately reflected what he has done. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.110.218.57 (talk) 07:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

 * He was sacked as CEO of Channel 9. Maybe that makes him a "Failed Business entrepreneur"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.38.64 (talk) 11:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Racist
His racial vilification of champion football player Adam Goodes is an issue that editors should ensure in not sanitized in any way from the main article by Eddie supporters and Channel 9. This person has made his fortune from his "personality". This dark aspect of his true character and personality is important to highlight to counter-balance the false public persona he promotes of himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.44.46 (talk) 12:51, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

 * We state that he has acknowledged his remark amounted to racial vilification. No sanitising there.  But we draw the line at describing him as a racist.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  13:08, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

Why? Maguire's statement is an example of a person inadvertently revealing their true nature. His so-called "apology" was prefaced by these word - and I quote - "I wasn't racially vilifying anyone". How can you say, Jack of Oz, that "he has acknowledged his remark amounted to racial vilification"?? Please note, I am not having a go at you. We are all entitled to our views on this. But they were Maguire's exact words at the time, were they not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.79.15 (talk) 02:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Our job is to describe what happened, as described in reliable sources, and let our readers draw their own conclusions. It's not our job to tell the world that he is a racist, or not. You can decide that if you like, but it won't impact our article. HiLo48 (talk) 02:57, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

That's fair enough HiLO48. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.58.111 (talk) 07:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Also, even if it were our job to come to a conclusion about him - which it isn't - we'd balance a great many positive things he's done over many years to counter racism, against one (1) negative incident that he has profusely apologised for.  This one incident - and nobody's excusing him for it, certainly not me - does not suddenly eradicate all the good work he's done in the opposite direction.  How does this one incident reveal his "true nature", and how come all the good stuff he's done fail to reveal anything about his nature?  That just doesn't work on any level.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  08:37, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I guess it's a matter of opinion, but I don't find his past conspicuous charity and self-serving "good stuff" overly redeeming. Maguire has prior form when it comes to inappropriate denigrating comments, firstly sexist and now racist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.40.30 (talk) 11:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

 * I wish to refer to the following quotation from the article, concerning the racism controversy Eddie McGuire has been involved in:

 * On Friday 24 May 2013, during a match at the MCG, a 13-year-old Collingwood fan racially vilified Sydney Swans player Adam Goodes by referring to him as an 'ape'.
 * McGuire ... said that the girl did not know that what she had said was a racist slur.
 * McGuire ... said that the girl did not know that what she had said was a racist slur.

 * This simply asserts that calling someone an ape is a racial slur; but I have never heard of this before, and it is not self-evidently true to me that it is. It seems to me that this girl is certainly guilty of being rude and abusive in a general sense (really not all that notable in itself for a 13-year-old caught up in the emotion of a football match), but not racist - unless there is some widely-known but non-standard meaning of the term "ape" that I am not privy to.

 * It certainly is a term of general insult or abuse, as are probably many, many things yelled at football matches (many very likely much worse than this); but I don't see how it is specifically a term of *racial* abuse. I feel this article should not simply assert that it is without explaining why, and in whose opinion it is.

 * So on what basis does the article make this assertion? If a reliable source can be found that indicates that this is generally accepted as being racial abuse, perhaps it should be mentioned - or else the insult should simply be quoted, and then mentioned, not as *being* racial abuse (as if it were an undisputed fact), but as being interpreted by so-and-so as racial abuse (and the various people who have asserted this could then be mentioned); and readers could then draw their own conclusions as to whether it can reasonably be considered racial abuse.

 * Does anyone else agree with me on this? I would modify the article myself, only I haven't been following this affair quite closely enough to be able to quote all the relevant sources and people. M.J.E. (talk) 13:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

 * I think the point is that Adam Goodes took it as a racist comment. If it had been "You're an idiot!", I doubt he would have been anything like as upset as he was.  It may not have been in the girl's mind at all, but it's easy to see how a certain unenlightened cast of mind might think "Aborigines = sub-human = ape".  That Goodes took it that way is what's important here.  --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  21:46, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Jack is right. Even local legislation takes this position. It's the view of the target of the words that matters, not what's "generally accepted". Wording such as the latter would only lead to endless debate, inevitably involving more racially based comment about the victim. That is to be avoided at all costs. HiLo48 (talk) 22:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

 * So, basically Wikipedia is biased towards protecting alleged victims "at all costs", even if it means not following secondary sources. If you really want to keep the word "unknowingly" out you should at least change the reference to one that favours your bias. Doing otherwise, is effectively interpreting the primary sources which is original research. Hopefully the recent changes in Wikipedia culture haven't resulted in changes to that fundamental policy. Ans e ll  22:17, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

I think HiLO48 is correct, but it is an interesting issue. Not long ago, Australian cricketer Andrew Simmons was abused by a large number of a crowd in India, calling him a "monkey". He claimed the abuse was racial vilification, and no doubt perceived it to be so, but the motivation of the abuse was in reality his unusual style of wearing sunscreen - by wearing prominent white zinc cream sunscreen around his mouth - which caused members of the crowd to abusively compare his appearance to a monkey's face. I am not saying Simmons was wrong in the stand he took. But where the definition of racism is in the heart of the abusee, rather than the abuser - these definitional issues will continue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.75.37.245 (talk) 12:07, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

 * That's Andrew Symonds. --   Jack of Oz   [Talk]  12:12, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Robin Tunney

Robin Tunney (born June 19, 1972) is an American actress who made her film debut in Encino Man (1992), and later rose to prominence with headline parts in the cult films Empire Records (1995) and The Craft (1996). Her performance in Niagara, Niagara (1997) won her the Volpi Cup for Best Actress. She then had leading roles in End of Days (1999), Supernova, Vertical Limit (both 2000), Cherish, The Secret Lives of Dentists (both 2002) and The In-Laws (2003), and earned wider recognition playing Veronica Donovan on Prison Break (2005–2006) and Teresa Lisbon on The Mentalist (2008–2015).

Tunney's portrayal of a sexual assault victim in Open Window (2006) was praised. Her subsequent film credits included Hollywoodland (2006), August, The Burning Plain (both 2008), Passenger Side (2009), Looking Glass and Monster Party (both 2018). She starred on the short-lived ABC series The Fix in 2019.

Early life
Tunney was born in Chicago, Illinois, to a car salesman father, Patrick, and a bartender mother, Cathy. Tunney's father was born in Straide, County Mayo, Ireland, and her maternal grandparents were from Clare Island, Ireland. She is a cousin of Chicago Alderman Tom Tunney.

Tunney grew up in Orland Park, a southwest suburb of Chicago. She was raised Irish Catholic, attended Carl Sandburg High School, Saint Ignatius College Prep in Chicago and the Chicago Academy for the Arts in Chicago, and resided in Palos Heights, also in the Chicago area.

Career
Tunney moved to Los Angeles and was cast in roles in Class of '96, Law & Order, Dream On, and Life Goes On amongst other works. She appeared in the film Empire Records, released in 1995, which polarized critics and audiences. Tunney realized subsequent success in the role of Sarah Bailey in horror-fantasy film The Craft, in which she starred alongside Fairuza Balk, Neve Campbell and Rachel True. The movie was a commercial success, earning $55 million against a budget of $15 million. She later led the independent film Niagara, Niagara which was released in 1997, and earned critical praise; she won the Volpi Cup for Best Actress at the 1997 Venice International Film Festival. She was also featured opposite Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 1999 supernatural action film End of Days.

Tunney appeared in the 2004 pilot episode of the medical drama series House as a kindergarten instructor who suffers from an aphasic condition. She subsequently portrayed Veronica Donovan on the first season of Prison Break, which was released in 2005 to critical acclaim. Tunney appeared in 2007's Closing the Ring. In the following year, she began one of her longest roles as Teresa Lisbon on the television series The Mentalist, which lasted seven years. In 2018, she led the thriller film Looking Glass alongside Nicolas Cage, which was negatively received although her performance earned praise. In 2019, she starred in the short-lived legal drama series The Fix.

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Tunney married producer and director Bob Gosse on October 4, 1997; they divorced in 2006. Tunney was engaged to Australian writer and director Andrew Dominik from 2009 to 2010. Tunney became engaged to Nicky Marmet on December 25, 2012, while on vacation in Rio de Janeiro. They have two children.

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BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir London

BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir (also commonly known as the Neasden Temple) is a Hindu temple in Neasden, London, England. Built entirely using traditional methods and materials, the Swaminarayan mandir has been described as being Britain's first authentic Hindu temple. It was also Europe's first traditional Hindu stone temple, as distinct from converted secular buildings. It is a part of the Bochasanwasi Shri Akshar Purushottam Swaminarayan Sanstha (BAPS) organisation and was inaugurated in 1995 by Pramukh Swami Maharaj. The temple complex also consists of a permanent exhibition entitled "Understanding Hinduism" and a cultural centre housing an assembly hall, gymnasium, bookshop, and offices.

Mandir complex
The BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir is located on Pramukh Swami Road, Neasden, London NW10 8HW, United Kingdom. The mandir is close to the North Circular Road, and can be reached by bus or on foot from Wembley Park, Stonebridge Park, Harlesden, and Neasden Underground and Overground stations. The complex is 102,018 square feet and includes the first traditional stone mandir in Europe adjoined with a cultural center, and a 550-car parking lot. At the time of its completion, the mandir became the largest Hindu mandir built outside of India. The cultural center includes a foyer, a prayer hall, a conference hall, an exhibition hall, a marriage hall, a sports hall, a library, and a health clinic.

In August 2020, to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the mandir's opening, King Charles III and Queen Camilla said that, "the first of its kind outside India, Neasden Temple serves the local community as a place of worship, learning, celebration, peace and community service." The King and Queen had previously visited the temple in 2009 for the traditional festival of Holi.

Main structure
The mandir rises to a height of 21 meters (70 feet) and is 60 meters (195 feet) long. The exterior of the mandir covered with 990 cubic meters (35,000 cubic feet) of Bulgarian limestone, while the interior of the mandir is composed of 700 cubic meters (25,000 cubic feet) of Indian and Italian marble. The mandir covers 1.5 acres of land and is made up of over 1,699 cubic meters (60,000 cubic feet) of stone, without the use of ferrous materials like steel. The mandir includes 7 shikhars (pinnacles), 6 gummats (domes), 193 sthambhas (pillars), 32 gavakshas (windows), and 4 jharukhas (balconies). The central dome is 10 meters high and the design was inspired by the Delwara Jain Mandir in Mount Abu, Rajasthan. The mandir has over 500 unique designs, 26,300 carved stone pieces, and 55 different ceiling designs. In its September 2000 edition, the National Geographic referred to the mandir as "A London Landmark."

Haveli

The haveli, built in a traditional haveli style, has a courtyard architectural style that was originally developed in 17th century western India, and serves as a cultural center for the mandir. The traditional haveli design highlights specific architectural components like the façade, open courtyards, carved columns, arches, doors, windows, and balconies.

Adjoining the mandir is BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Haveli, a multi-function cultural centre. Whereas the mandir is carved from stone, the haveli is constructed from wood. English oak and Burmese teak have been fashioned into panels, arches and screens, all carved by craftsmen in India with a cornucopia of geometric patterns, stylised animal heads, and flower garlands.

The Burmese teak used was harvested from sustainable forests. To compensate for the 226 English oak trees used, over 2,300 English oak saplings were planted in Devon. The haveli also incorporates energy-saving features such as light-wells.

Richly carved haveli-style woodwork from Gujarat is the most striking characteristic of the building's façade and foyer. It has been designed according to traditional Indian haveli architecture, to evoke feelings of being in Gujarat, India, where such havelis were once commonplace. It required over 150 craftsmen from all over India three years to carve 1,579 m2 (17,000 square feet) of wood. Behind the traditional wooden façade, the cultural centre houses a vast pillarless prayer hall with space for 3,000 people, a gymnasium, medical centre, dining facilities, bookstall, conference facilities, and offices.

Garden
The mandir is surrounded by a garden featuring sculpted flowerbeds, lush lawns, evergreen yews, and a topiary. The garden displays two distinct styles to illustrate Hindu motifs. The parterre garden style is used on the front and sides of the mandir. The formal garden is planted behind the mandir and includes interconnected walkways and floral designs to symbolize the human relationship with nature and the universe.

The garden won first place in the 'Brent in Bloom' competition in 2009, 2010, and 2012 and received a Certificate of Excellence in 2009 from 'London in Bloom.'

Exhibition
The lower level of the mandir consists of a permanent exhibition open to visitors called 'Understanding Hinduism.' The exhibition spans over 3,000 square feet and is designed to display Hindu values and wisdom through 3D dioramas, paintings, tableaux, and traditional artwork. The exhibition also includes an 11-minute documentary that explains the religious significance of the mandir and how it was created.

Construction
Fifteen years prior to its construction, Pramukh Swami Maharaj envisioned that a traditional Hindu mandir would be built in the UK for its followers. The mandir was built in accordance with the principles of the Shilpa Shastras, a Vedic text on architecture that dates back to approximately 5,000 years ago. Pramukh Swami Maharaj appointed CB Sompura, an Indian architect, as the lead architect for creating the design for the mandir. Prior to being used in construction, all of the stones were tested for properties such as density, compression, flexibility, water absorption, and freezing before being chosen. Planning permissions were obtained in August 1992, and the construction of the mandir began in November 1992. The Italian marble used for the interior of the mandir was sent to Kandla, India, to be carved by craftsmen and then shipped to London, UK to be assembled, "like a giant jigsaw to form the temple."

In December 1993, 169 craftsmen began working together across five different sites in India (Uttar Pradesh, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Rajasthan, and Bengal) to create the carved designs seen in the haveli. The haveli work of about 9,000 square feet was completed in 1 year and 8 months. The intricate designs in and around the haveli are carved on Burmese Teak wood and structurally supported by English Oak wood, both of which have been preserved in their natural colors.

Initially, while planning for the cultural center, architects proposed four architectural designs to Pramukh Swami Maharaj: the Jaipur palace style, the Jaisalmer arcade, the Raj Indo-British style, and the haveli style. The architects predominately favored the Raj or Jaipur styles, but Pramukh Swami Maharaj preferred the haveli style and approved the corresponding designs. Chief architect for the haveli, Nigel Lane, a recipient of the BBC TV Pride of Place, was a key British architect who assisted BAPS in tailoring the Haveli architectural style to suit the British climate.

Approximately 450 craftsmen, 100 full-time volunteers, and over 1,000 part-time volunteers dedicated time and effort toward the creation of the mandir. Volunteers often devoted time from their day jobs to help with the construction of the mandir and ensure its completion by 1995. Volunteer tasks varied and included cleaning the site, performing electrical work, cementing and concreting, plumbing and drainage work, fixing windows and transporting materials. In addition to construction efforts, volunteers also organized fundraising initiatives. The aluminum can recycle project was recognized with the 1995 Brent Green Leaf Award for recycling over 7 million aluminum cans. Construction of the mandir complex was completed in 1995.

History
The mandir and haveli were built and funded entirely by the Hindu community, and the entire project spanned five years, although the construction itself was completed in two-and-a-half years. Building work began in August 1992. On 24 November 1992, the temple recorded the biggest-ever concrete-pour in the UK, when 4,500 tons were laid in 24 hours to create a foundation mat 6 ft (1.8m) thick. The first stone was laid in June 1993; two years later, the building was complete.

The mandir was cited in Guinness World Records 2000 as follows: "Biggest Hindu Temple outside India: The Shri Swaminarayan Temple in Neasden, London, UK, is the largest Hindu temple outside India. It was built by Pramukh Swami, a 92-year-old Indian sadhu, and is made of 2,828 tonnes of Bulgarian limestone and 2,000 tonnes of Italian marble, which was first shipped to India to be carved by a team of 1,526 sculptors. The temple cost £12 million to build."

Since 2000, it has been surpassed in size by other BAPS mandirs elsewhere.

Overview

 * June 1970: the first BAPS Swaminarayan Mandir in the UK was opened in a converted disused church in Islington, North London, by Yogiji Maharaj.
 * 1982: having outgrown the temple, the congregation moved from the Islington temple to a small, former warehouse in Neasden.
 * 1990: BAPS was again in search of a building that could cope with the growing congregation, and plans for the present temple were made.
 * 1995: they moved to their present temple, built on the site of a disused truck warehouse opposite the previous temple. The old temple building was retained and converted into Shayona, an Indian grocery shop and vegetarian restaurant.

The Swaminarayan School
Opposite the Mandir is The Swaminarayan School, Europe's first independent Hindu school. Founded in 1992 by Pramukh Swami Maharaj, it follows the National Curriculum, while promoting aspects of Hinduism and Hindu culture, such as dance, music and language. The school's premises formerly housed Sladebrook High School, which closed in 1990.

The 2007 GCSE results placed the school fourth among all independent schools in the country. On June 25, 2018, the school publicly announced that it would be shutting down. The school formally shut down on 31 August 2021.

Awards and recognition

The Mandir was awarded the 'UK Pride of Place' award in December 2007 by Government authorities after a nationwide online poll.
 * Pride of Place Award

Time Out declared the Mandir as one of the "Seven Wonders of London". In an "epic series... to pay tribute to... the capital's seven most iconic buildings and landmarks", they embarked upon an ambitious search of London's best.
 * Seven wonders of London

In 2000, Guinness World Records presented two certificates to recognise the world record of offering 1,247 vegetarian dishes during the Annakut Festival held at the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, London on 27 October 2000, and secondly to recognise the largest traditionally built Hindu temple outside India.
 * Guinness World Records

Reader's Digest (1998) featured the Shri Swaminarayan Mandir lauding its scale, intricate detail and the extraordinary story of how it was built and inspired by Pramukh Swami Maharaj.
 * The Eventful 20th Century – 70 Wonders of the Modern World

The 1997/8 Annual Report of the Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England, featured the Mandir, and referred to as a "modern building of major importance in our multicultural society".
 * Royal Commission on the Historical Monuments of England

The Most Enterprising Building Award 1996 was awarded by the Royal Fine Art Commission & British Sky Broadcasting to the Swaminarayan Mandir in London on 5 June 1996.
 * Most Enterprising Building Award

The Stone Federation issued a special award to the Swaminarayan Hindu Mandir in 1995 as part of its Natural Stone Awards.
 * Natural Stone Award

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A copyright infringement
A number of sentences in this article were taken directly from other articles on the web, and have been removed as possible copyright violations. Please write articles in your own words, or inform us if you are the copyright holder of those original articles. -- The Anome 08:57 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)

 * Thanks for putting me right. It was my first from scratch article! David Thrale 18:23 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)

Security section
Who has added the irrelevant [leaving aside unsubstantiated and incorrect] notes under the subtitle 'Security'? > What is the reason for this? The wording of the text seems totally out of place - especially the 'same material as police riotshields'. Is there some implicit, negative undertone to this kind of message?
 * To explain what polycarbonate is. Anthony Appleyard 23:03, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I was also wondering about the 'Security' section. Whilst I'm sure it was well intentioned, it seems quite unecessary.86.139.174.117 13:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Does anybody have any justified objections to the removal of this section? If not I'll go ahead and delete it. Dylanpatel 23:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

 * In these times of much religious and racial hostility, and much casual vandalism, and much ordinary theft of valuable objects such as temple images, needs for security at this sort of place are very relevant and necessary. Leave this section in. Anthony Appleyard 09:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not disputing the NEED for the security measures in place, I just don't feel its necessary to mention them in the article. You don't generally find assesments of the security features in other buildings on wikipedia, or encylopedias in general. I couldn understand if there's been some major security threat or incident at the temple, but that isn't the case. Whilst well intentioned, I'm afraid it's just a superfluous bit of information.Dylanpatel 16:09, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

 * It may not be interesting to you, but it is interesting to some. Security matters. Anthony Appleyard 18:04, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd be greatful if you qualify the following remarks:
 * "Otherwise, representative images seem to be largely high up on the walls. "
 * "Some of the ornamental pillars inside the temple have transparent polycarbonate casings (same material as police riotshields)."
 * What exactly do you mean by representative images? Are you referring to the deities carved on the pillars and in the dome? If so, they are there because that's where they belong according to Indian temple design, not because the designers were worried people would steal them. Also, the plastic casings around the pillars are simply there to deter people from touching - thereby wearing away - the carvings. They're not there for security. You'd need a chisel and hammer to remove a carving as it's carved into the solid stone pillar!

Dylanpatel 12:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I was not talking ony of removing the image, but also other sorts of other damage. Anthony Appleyard 15:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Finally, as I said before, I wasn't disputing the NEED for security, and I agree that it matters and is important, but here, on Wikipedia, it is irrelevant. The whole concept of Wikipedia is that it is open to all to edit and contribute. Making changes and removing out of date or irrelevant information is just part and parcel of life here, and it's not meant as a personal attack! You've done a great job on other aspects of the article, I just feel it could do with a little clean up. Dylanpatel 12:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Can we compromise?
 * There is a sliding iron security screen in front of the murtis.
 * Can we reword this to, "Murtis are protected by a sliding iron security screen.", and include it in the murtis section of this article?
 * Otherwise, representative images seem to be largely high up on the walls.
 * Seems irrelevant and out-of-place.

Moksha88 12:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I have seen pictures of Hindu temples where there are plenty of images low on the walls. There must be some reason not to have them here. Anthony Appleyard 15:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Some of the ornamental pillars inside the temple have transparent polycarbonate casings (same material as police riotshields).
 * Perhaps we could reword this comment to, "Some of the ornamental pillars have transparent polycarbonate casings.", and include it in the architecture section? Although, this one as well seems a little odd as well.

Moksha88 12:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I see no reason not to leave this line as I wrote it, and I see no reason not to have a ==security== section. Security is as important a consideration as anything else. Anthony Appleyard 15:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The protected pillars seem to be in the temple room and not elsewhere; and I put in "same material as police riotshields" to explain what polycarbonate is. Moksha88 12:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good compromise to me. Good job. Dylanpatel 13:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I still prefer to put all the information in. Anthony Appleyard 15:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Ok, this is getting out of hand. You can't go adding replies here and there so it looks like I've agreed to your response. There are brass gates at the front of each shrine like EVERY SINGLE other Hindu temple in world. There are clear plastic casings on the most intricate pillars to stop people touching the delicate carvings. Thats it. By your standards, you should be editing every article of every building that has protective coverings to note the fact. I am still none the wiser as to what you mean by 'representative images'. We now have four people who have said that having a security section is irrelevant. We can wait for more people to agree, or we can remove it. What's it to be? You really can't be over protective of your contributions. If people feel they're out of place, or unnecessary, perhaps they are! This edit of the security section was meant to be the first part of a series of edits to bring the article up to scratch. You're going to have to loosen the apron strings a bit and let other people contribute if this article is to meet Wikipedia standards.Dylanpatel 15:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * I have been in Hindu temples in England where there is no screen or barrier in front of the murti platform. Anthony Appleyard 12:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I can only conclude that they are either the exception to the rule, or they have some sort of other arrangement in place to stop anybody desecrating the images. But I'm glad that we've reached a conclusion on the matter, thanks for being understanding. Hopefully we can work together to improve the article even more! Dylanpatel 12:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Name of the building
Hi, I have a suggestion. The official name of this building is 'BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, London' (according to their website). Perhaps it would be an idea to move this page to a title that reflects that, and have 'Neasden Temple' redirect there. This would be in keeping with the pages for BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir Chicago and BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir Houston. Any suggestions? Objections? Ideas? Regards, Dylanpatel 23:12, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Anybody have any thoughts on this? I think moving the article to a new page would make sense. Dylanpatel 12:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and changed the name of the article. I checked for double redirects but didn't come across any...if I've missed any please let me know! Dylanpatel 13:35, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey bhai, hate to nit pick (and I know know it's incredibly late) but would it have more sense to add a comma (to all of them to keep uniform, perhaps)? Example: BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, London, BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Chicago, etc... I feel it would make sense to distinguish the location, for some reason... Just my opinion. -- Harish - 02:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Suggested Edit
Hi, as it says at the top of the article, it could do with a clean up. Here's my suggestion below. Please feel free to make comments and suggestions!

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BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, London is a Hindu temple in Neasden, in the London Borough of Brent, in North West London. It is Europes first traditional Hindu temple, and according to Guinness World Records, it is the largest temple outside india, although this distinction may now be taken by the Balaji Temple in Tividale, West Midlands. It is also known as the 'Neasden Temple'.

The Mandir
The Mandir is the focal point of the complex. Designed according to the ancient Indian Stapatya-Shastra, it is a from Italian marble and Bulgarian limestone. The stone was shipped to India where it was hand-carved by over 1,500 craftsmen. Each individually numbered piece was then shipped back to London and the building was assembled like a giant three dimensional jigsaw. The Mandir facility contains no iron or steel, a unique feature for a modern building in the UK. The Mandir was inaugurated on 20 August 1995 by Pramukh Swami Maharaj, the spiritual leader of BAPS - the organisation behind the temple.

The Mandir serves as the centre of worship. Directly beneath each of the seven pinnacles seen from the outside are shrines. Each shrine houses murtis within golden sihasans (alters). Each murti is treated like the incarnation of Godhead and therefore each deity is bathed, clothed, fed, and attended to each day by the sadhus (monks) who live in the temple. More details on the daily rituals.

The Haveli
Adjoining the Mandir is BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Haveli, a cultural complex. it has been designed according to traditional Indian Haveli architecure - an architectural style fashioned from wood, involving intricate carving. The building was designed to evoke feelings of being in Gujarat, India, where such architecture is commonplace. It took over 150 craftsmen from all over India 3 years to carve 17,000 square feet of wood. Behind the traditional wooden facade, the cultural centre houses a vast pillarless prayer hall with space for 4000 people, gymnasium, marriage hall, medical centre, dining facilities, bookstall, conference facilities, and offices.

Shayona
Across from the Mandir complex is Shayona. It is made up of a shop that sells Indian groceries, and also as a restaurant that serves vegetarian food. The building Shayona occupies, a former warehouse, served as the BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir from 1982 until 1995. Next to Shayona is Akshar IT Centre, an adult learning centre that provides IT courses.

The Swaminarayan School
On the opposite side of the Mandir is The Swaminarayan School, Europes first independant Hindu school. Opened in 1991 by Pramukh Swami Maharaj, it follows the National Curriculum whilst promoting aspects of Hindu culture such as dance, music, and language.

Other BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandirs
Since the opening of the Neasden Temple, other Mandirs and Haveli's have opened across the world:

 * BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Nairobi - 1999
 * BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Toronto* - 2004
 * BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Houston - 2004
 * BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir, Chicago - 2004

In 2007, BAPS will open a Mandir in Toronto, Canada (Toronto currently has a Haveli but no Mandir) and a Mandir and Haveli complex in Atlanta, USA. A Haveli will also open in Los Angeles, USA with plans for a Mandir in the future.

Please sign your comments!
This page is looking incredibly disorganized - please sign your comments when you make an edit here using four tildes ~. Sfacets 23:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

"largest outside India"
Whether one building is "bigger" than another, may differ according to whether it is measured by:- Anthony Appleyard 12:04, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Ground area of buildings.
 * 2) Floor area of buildings including all storeys.
 * 3) Volume of buildings.
 * 4) Area of buildings and attached land.

 * Hi, thats something you'd have to take up with Guinness World Records, not the temple. Dylanpatel 12:02, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

'Notable Achievements' Section?
Hi all! I was thinking to add a section documenting the achievements this mandir has received, and just wanted some thoughts...

I came across this, which inspired the thought:
 * Neasden Temple wins 'Pride of Place' poll

Maybe I'd need to look for more, but it helps add to the article positively.

Another thought; I dunno if it's worth mentioning when we get notable dignitaries who visit? For example, when Prince Charles and his wife visited on the Hindu new year's day in November, 2007. I would like to make it clear that this is a separate point and suggestion from the main point of this topic. -- Harish - 02:10, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

'Stapatya-Shastra'
Under the heading of 'The Mandir', it's uses this term and it links to nothing. My question is, is it meant to mean the following: 'Shilpa Shastras'? If someone actually knows, do change. -- Harish - 12:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Another massive Hindu temple in London?
There's a BBC News article about another Hindu temple similar in size to this, the Shree Sanatan Hindu Mandir on the Ealing road. A quick check with mapping tools suggests that this is a completely different building, in a different part of London, and not a duplicate name for the BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir. Presumably we should have an article on this, too. -- The Anome (talk) 07:35, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

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The primary deity of the mandir is Bhagwan Swaminarayan according to the mandir's official website - http://londonmandir.baps.org/worship/ so I have reverted Swamiblue's change. Since it is the deity of the mandir, I have included the honorific Bhagwan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sacredsea (talk • contribs) 21:21, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Swaminarayan is not a deity but a person. The website states when there is three people in the central shrine from the group, it is called Dham, Dhami and Mukta. Go ahead and call your friends to support you even though you have a strong conflict of interest as you a member of this group but the website clearly explains it. http://londonmandir.baps.org/worship/swaminarayan-theology-a-very-brief-exposition/Swamiblue (talk) 14:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I went through the website in detail. The website states that Swaminarayan is considered a deity by them, and they have put his murti in the mandir. Swamiblue clearly has a different personal opinion, but based on their website - http://londonmandir.baps.org/worship/sacred-images/ & http://londonmandir.baps.org/worship/murti-puja-image-worship-in-hinduism/ they use the term deity and Bhagwan Swaminarayan for the murti in the mandir. Moreover, on the worship page that I cited in the earlier post, they clearly state: "BAPS Shri Swaminarayan Mandir is a Hindu temple dedicated to the worship of Bhagwan Swaminarayan and the millennia-old practice of the Hindu faith." I noted the webpage cited in the post of Swamiblue, but Dham, Dhami, Mukta is just a colloquial rendering of the murtis in the central shrine, not who the temple is dedicated to, or their principle deity. Sacredsea (talk) 01:15, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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Seychellois rupee

The rupee is the currency of the Seychelles. It is subdivided into 100 cents. In the local Seychellois Creole (Seselwa) language, it is called the roupi and roupie in French. The ISO code is SCR. The abbreviation SR is sometimes used for distinction. By population, Seychelles is the smallest country to have an independent monetary policy. Several other currencies are also called rupee.

British colony
The British Legislative Council authorized the establishment of a Board of Commissioners of Currency through the Paper Currency Ordinance of 1914, which was enacted by C. R. M. O'Brien, the Governor of the Colony of the Seychelles on 10 August 1914. In 1914, the government produced emergency issues of notes for 50c, Re. 1/-, Rs. 5/- and Rs. 10/-.

Standard issue notes began to be issued in 1918, with notes for 50c and Re. 1/-, followed by Rs. 5/-, Rs. 10/- and Rs. 50/- in 1928. The 50c and Re. 1/- notes were issued until 1951 and phased out in favour of coins. Rs. 20/- and Rs. 100/- notes were first introduced in 1968, whilst the Rs. 5/- note was replaced by a coin in 1972.

Independent republic
In 1976, the Seychelles Monetary Authority took over the issuance of paper money, issuing notes for Rs. 10/-, Rs. 25/-, Rs. 50/- and Rs. 100/-. This series featured the first President of the Seychelles, Sir James Mancham and replaced all colonial notes issued prior to independence.

In 1979, there was a redesign, featuring a more socialist and modernized theme reminiscent of the René regime. This series was also issued by the Central Bank of Seychelles when it took over full responsibility in the same year.

In 1989, a new series was introduced with better security features and colours.

In 1998, another more high-tech series was introduced with a more practical, ergonomic design. This series later saw an additional ₨.500/- note first introduced in 2005.

2011 update
On June 7, 2011, the Central Bank of Seychelles issued updated Rs. 50/-, Rs. 100/- and Rs. 500/- notes with improved security features. Each of the three banknotes has a holographic patch instead of a foil sailfish which currently appears on the notes.
 * On the Rs. 50/- note, the silver holographic sailfish alternates between the number 50 and an image of the Aldabra rail, a flightless bird.
 * On the Rs. 100/- note, the gold holographic sailfish alternates between the number 100 and an image of the Seychelles giant tortoise.
 * On the Rs. 500/- note, the gold holographic sailfish alternates between the number 500 and an image of the Seychelles scops owl.

Additional security upgrades include a 2.5-mm wide fluorescent security thread on the Rs. 50/- note, a 2.5-mm wide colour-shifting security thread on the Rs. 100/- note, and a 3-mm wide colour-shifting security thread on the Rs. 500/- note. The notes are also protected by De La Rue's unique Gemini technology that fluoresces under ultraviolet light but appears normal in daylight.

The colour schemes of the notes have been revised, with the notes being more green, red, and orange, respectively, than the notes currently in circulation. The new notes also carry the year of printing, as well as the signature of Pierre Frank Laporte, the bank's governor. Existing notes remain legal tender and will be removed from circulation as they wear out.

2016 changes
In December 2016, the Central Bank of Seychelles issued a new series of banknotes to commemorate 40 years of Seychelles' independence. The theme of this series is "Seychelles' Unique Biodiversity - the backbone of the economy".

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Nico (album)

Nico is a compilation album by American rock band Blind Melon, released in 1996 by Capitol Records. The album was released after lead singer Shannon Hoon's cocaine overdose that resulted in his death in 1995. The album was named for his daughter, Nico Blue, and the proceeds arising from album sales were placed in a college trust for her. It features unreleased tracks, recordings started by Hoon and finished by the band, unreleased versions of previous songs ("No Rain" and "St. Andrew's Hall") and the cover songs "The Pusher" (Steppenwolf) and "John Sinclair" (John Lennon).

Track listing
All songs by Blind Melon except "The Pusher" (Hoyt Axton, with additional lyrics by Shannon Hoon) and "John Sinclair" (John Lennon).

 * 1) "The Pusher" – 3:06
 * 2) *Recorded in Mammoth Mountain, California, April 1994.
 * 3) "Hell" – 2:02
 * 4) *Recorded at Kelsey's Playground, Lafayette, Indiana, 1993.
 * 5) "Soup" – 3:09
 * 6) *Recorded at Kingsway Studio, New Orleans, Louisiana, November 1994, during the "Soup" sessions.
 * 7) "No Rain" [Ripped Away Version] – 2:25
 * 8) *Recorded at Bullet Sound Studio, The Netherlands, November 10, 1993.
 * 9) "Soul One" – 3:15
 * 10) *Demo, recorded at Downtown Rehearsal, Los Angeles, California, 1991.
 * 11) "John Sinclair" – 3:36
 * 12) *Recorded at Riversound Studio, New York City, March 7, 1995.
 * 13) "All That I Need" – 2:50
 * 14) *Recorded in Mammoth Mountain, California, April 1994.
 * 15) "Glitch" – 3:20
 * 16) *Recorded at Kelsey's Playground, Lafayette, Indiana, 1993.
 * 17) "Life Ain't So Shitty" – 1:50
 * 18) *Recorded in a St. Louis hotel room, 1994.
 * 19) "Swallowed" – 3:45
 * 20) *Recorded at Kingsway Studio, New Orleans, Louisiana, November 1994, during the "Soup" sessions.
 * 21) "Pull" – 3:28
 * 22) *Recorded at Kingsway Studio, New Orleans, Louisiana, January 1995, during the "Soup" sessions.
 * 23) "St. Andrew's Hall" – 3:36
 * 24) *Recorded in various hotel rooms during the 1994 U.S. tour.
 * 25) "Letters from a Porcupine" – 1:54
 * 26) *Recorded on Christopher Thorn's answering machine by Shannon Hoon, calling from home in Lafayette, Indiana, 1994.

The Japanese edition of the album contained the bonus song "Three Is a Magic Number" as track 14, originally released on the Schoolhouse Rock! Rocks album.

Personnel

 * Blind Melon – producer, engineer, mixing
 * David Michael Dill – engineer
 * Shannon Hoon – acoustic guitar, lead vocals, engineer
 * Ken Lomas – engineer, assistant engineer
 * Brad Smith – bass guitar, dumbek, flute, conga, backing vocals, double bass
 * Rogers Stevens – acoustic guitar, conga, electric guitar, Hammond organ, shaker
 * Miles Tackett – cello
 * Andy Wallace – producer, engineer, mixing
 * Howie Weinberg – mastering
 * Glen Graham – dumbek, percussion, conga, drums, Mellotron
 * Liz Heller – executive producer
 * Tommy Steele – art direction
 * Jean Krikorian – design
 * Mike Napolitano – producer, assistant engineer, mixing
 * Christopher Thorn – acoustic guitar, banjo, electric guitar, tambourine, bells, Mellotron, lap steel guitar
 * Jeffery Fey – art direction
 * Danny Clinch – harmonica, photography
 * Leo Rossi – technical advisor
 * Lyle Eaves – engineer
 * Stephen Moses – trombone
 * Patrick Halligan – triangle
 * Chris Jones – executive producer
 * John Burton – engineer

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Talk:History of the British penny (1837-1901)

Talk:History of the British penny (1714-1901)

I HAVE A 1862 VICTORIA D:G: BRITT:REG:F:D: ONE PENNY WITH A SHIP IN THE BACK GROUND ON THE RIGHT AND A LIGHT HOUSE IN BACK GROUND ON THE LEFT. COULD ANY ONE TELL ME WHAT IT WOULD BE WORTH IN AMERICAN MONEY.THE LADY ON THE FRONT IS FACING LEFT AND THE ROMAN ON THE BACK IS FACING RIGHT WITH A SHIELD ON IT SIDE.

As with all coins, the value depends on the condition of a coin, its rarity, and the state of the market -- the rarest coin will be worth nothing if no-one wants to buy it where it is being offered for sale.

That said, the British grading system for coins works like this (I will not touch the lunatic American grading system with 70 different grades!):-

 * 1) Poor coins are very worn, and most of the detail of the coin will have gone, but you're still able to tell what type of coin it is.
 * 2) Fair coins are well worn, but more of the detail of the coin is visible, and it is easy to identify the coin.
 * 3) Good coins will have almost all the lettering readable, and the date will be easy to read in most cases.
 * 4) Very Good coins  will have all the coin readable, and some of the finer details of the design can start to be made out.
 * 5) Fine coins will have the details of the coins taking shape, and the coin is starting to become collectable if it's fairly recent.
 * 6) Very Fine coins will have all the details clear, and there will be wear only on the high points of the design, and most of the fine details shows clearly.
 * 7) Extremely Fine coins will have wear on only the highest points of the design.
 * 8) Uncirculated coins will have no wear on the high points of the design at all, though faults in the engraving, or wear on the die, may mean that the design may not be fully struck.

 Under no circumstances should collectible coins be cleaned or polished -- this will destroy at least half its' collectible value.

Coming back to your 1862 penny, values for a bog-standard penny in UK Pounds, in Britain, are:

 * F - GBP 4
 * VF - GBP 10
 * EF - GBP 40
 * UNC - GBP 70

Lower grades are not worth anything much.

Multiply by 1.6 to get a US $ figure, then discount any amount for reduced interest in the coins in the States!

-- Arwel 18:10 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)

1899 one penny (British)
I was cleaning out some old storage bins belonging to a deceased relative and came across several old coins. The oldest is an 1899 one penny with Queen Victoria's bust on one side in fine condition. There are 2 Half Crowns 1937 and 1954 in superior condition. The last coin is a two shilling 1953 in superior condition. My questions are two fold, one the value and secondly the meaning of the latin inscriptions? --Fullflow 05:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

1840 & 1853 Victoria One Penny Coins??
I have recently bought by post the above mentioned pennies, I was surprised to see how small they were compared to other Victoria pennies, they measure 22mm in diameter. The head is a young Victoria facing left with the inscription VICTORIA DEI GRATIA with the dates 1840 & 1853 respectively. The reverse side is Britania facing right and the inscription BRITANNIAR: REG: FID: DEF I have not found any reference to the diminutive size, are they genuine? Can anyone help shed light on the matter?...many thanks...82.153.59.141 (talk) 10:27, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

they are worth £1 to £2000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.8.202.81 (talk) 12:16, 28 October 2014 (UTC)


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Talk:RC6

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Information on the AES algorithm (Rijndael) is available, including test values, intellectual property (IP) statements, and specifications. Please note that these pages are included for historical reference only. As these pages refer to a development effort, they may contain errors. Refer to FIPS 197 for the actual specification of AES. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.115.120.236 (talk • contribs) 11:42, 30 June 2003 (UTC)

Cryptoanalysis?
Is there any? FT2 (Talk 14:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A quick Google turns up a couple of papers from a few years back on breaking various simplified versions of RC6, nothing serious. I couldn't see much published since Rijndael was selected as AES... presumably the motivation to study the cipher was reduced at that point. — Matt Crypto 21:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

title: Talk:RC6