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The url / png name is misspelled "Jersy"
The url / png name is misspelled "Jersy" for the number coded map of Camden County municipalities, but I don't know how to change it.- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric12 (talk • contribs) 17:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Pine Valley disestablishment
Pine Valley merged into Pine Hill effective Jan 1, 2022. The municipality map needs to be updated to reflect this GigachadGigachad (talk) 15:50, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

 * The interactive map needs to be updated as well GigachadGigachad (talk) 17:23, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Florence Township appears on interactive map of municipalities
I don't know how to remove it, but the interactive municipalities map shows Florence Township in Burlington County 216.6.178.148 (talk) 17:34, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

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 * There seems to be a conflicting name in the town Romney Marsh. In the Cape May Court House, New Jersey page it's called Rumney March. Neither sentences are cited. S EMMENDINGER  ( talk ) 17:13, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Northernmost humid subtropical climate?
Not even close for the east coast. The northernmost Cfa is found on Long Island. Heff01 (talk) 09:37, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Actually it depends on which climate classification system is used. Koeppen has the county as Cfa but it is not subtropical under the Trewartha defintion (even though Cape May Beach comes close.) Under Trewartha downtown Baltimore is the northernmost subtropical climate in North America except for California and southern coastal Curry County, Oregon. Heff01 (talk) 09:41, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Most if not all of the county is farther south than Baltimore, where an urban heat island makes a difference in downtown and on the Inner Harbor. Heff01 (talk) 09:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

North America's northernmost Cfa is Montauk, New York at the end of the South Fork of Long Island. Heff01 (talk) 06:43, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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The "Expires in 2005" Freeholders should probably be updated WRT who replaced them/didn't replace them. 68.39.174.238 23:13, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Info was updated with latest term expiration dates. Alansohn 01:52, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

They've changed again, someone with better info than me needs to update... 80.43.94.114 23:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

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Current Problems, very POV, factually inaccurate
This section needs a tremendous amount of work. The overall im pression one gets is that the taxes are so high, because, as is written in the article, the tax money is going to fund "ghetto east". Although there is SOME factual basis for the author's claims, I know that the bulk of my property taxes goes to Bloomfield.

Don't get me wrong, see my userpage for my political bias. This just needs a lot of work.

Its a VERY complicated issue, and even the counties with no "ghetto" pay enormous property taxes.

Further, I suspect that this is the work of User:Mr._Treason, a vandal from a year ago...

Roodog2k (talk) 19:23, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

I found this part to be somewhat POV, I mean the "ghetto east", sure there are some parts of the city of Newark and surrounding ares that are not the nicest places, but it's not "that" bad. This was obviously someone who the last time they paid attention to New Jersey was in like the 70's or something.

population density
the article previously stated '' The county is the seventh most densely populated in the nation, after the five boroughs of New York City (each of which is a unique county), Hudson County, and San Francisco County in California, which is made up entirely of the city of San Francisco. Alternately, Essex County could be described as the most densely populated "suburban" American county, since the six counties denser than it are all mostly, if not entirely, made up of a city or several cities. ''

This isn't true. First of all, seven counties are named there (the five boroughs plus two), not six. Second, there are other counties with population densities greater than Essex (6298 per square mile), including Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (11234 per square mile; the city and county are legally the same); Suffolk County, Massachusetts (11788 per square mile, contains Boston). I suspect that there are others, probably others containing major cities, but don't have the time to look for them right now.

Anyway, Essex County is not "suburban". Well, maybe some parts are, but no one has ever called Newark Suburban, so there are even fewer grounds for such a designation.

Livingston's Jewish Population
The Essex County, New Jersey and Livingston, New Jersey articles have conflicting statements.

The former states "...and especially Livingston, where the population is reportedly nearly 60% Jewish", while the latter states "Livingston is approximately 30% Jewish, one of the higher percentages of Jews in any American municipality".

60%, while certainly possible, seems innacurately high and I would be very interested in seeing the data to back it up. LoveOfFate 22:36, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

 * See the Talk Page of the Livingston, NJ article for more on this conversation. MKaiserman 00:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Even newer stuff posted on the Livingston Talk Page on the changes on this page and the Livingston, NJ page regarding the Jewish population of Essex County and Livingston. MKaiserman 05:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Dispute TONE/CONTENT
"I'm in denial so I don't want to admit that Newark, Irvington, and East Orange, do have some of the highest crime rates in the country, so instead I'll just turn this into a race issue when this is really a money issue."

remove sections
The editoralizing and apparently original research found in the two sections really bothers me. Its mostly uncited, and the use of weasel words color the article in such a way to exaggerate the issues and has the subtle effect of blaming Newark, East Orange, and Irvington for the counties issues.

Further, the other section in Demographics desribing where certain ethnic groups are migrating is pure speculation and at best an accurate emerical observation. No matter what, its unverifiable and further supports the tone of the article, which I would be inclined to call racist, if I were not assuming good faith.

I think we should consider removal of those sections.

Roodog2k 16:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

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removed section
OK, removed the section which was more demographic information. This included commentary which was mostly emperical observation regarding demographics. Anyway, I kept the cited material, since it relevant and interesting, and merged that back into the demographic information. Roodog2k 13:49, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

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South Orange Village
South Orange Village is actually a township, which is reflected on the South Orange article and on the map of Essex County municipalities (South Orange is no. 21). I took the liberty of correcting the list of municipalities to reflect this fact. Perfectorange007 (talk) 02:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Essex County Flag
I am wonderring why the flag for the county is missing on this page. I have found the falg at the following link (http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/us-nj-ex.html), but I am unsure on the reasons why this is not added to Wikipedia already. AlbertTom (talk) 16:21, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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Map colors
Why does the map have a unique color for townships, but not for cities, towns, and boroughs? In New Jersey the names don't even correspond well to the form of local government, which I'd argue is more significant than the name. In Essex, Township of West Caldwell has a borough form of government, and Township of South Orange Village has a unique village form. JoeBrennan (talk) 14:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Overview needs an entire rework
The overview paints a very misleading image of the county. Firstly it’s description of “eastern Essex” is wrong. Citing “high crime rates” and then mentioning towns like Nutley and Belleville in the same sentence is absurd. It’s definition of West Essex is also incorrect: the Oranges, Montclair, etc are not considered West Essex by any stretch of the imagination. These are just a couple of the issues present in that section. I’ll likely come through eventually and fix this myself, but if someone else wants to come through and do it, please do. 2600:1001:B11C:1A09:38B5:827C:BB51:18AE (talk) 14:43, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Redoing the Overview
The Overview is poorly written and does not reflect the realities of how Essex County actually is. Very POV. EssexNNJ (talk) 19:15, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * , what changes do you think should be made specifically? Also, are you affiliated with the town/city in some capacity? I only ask because your username suggests you might be. Reply here with any changes you think can be made. Thanks! SPF121188  (talk this way) (contribs) 19:32, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
 * No I just live here. The overview needs a change as it holds an inaccurate depiction of East Essex. It is also objectively wrong in certain areas, with outdated information. Also fairly POV - describing East Essex as an area of "high crime, high poverty" etc while describing West Essex in an opposite manner makes it very clear someone from West Essex with a strong bias edited this page to fit that. EssexNNJ (talk) 19:55, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

history
keep this section uncapitalized, as it contains no history. Looks like it never did. Topeka Sam (talk) 16:54, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

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Wondering how to edit this U.S. County Entry? The WikiProject U.S. Counties standards might help — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rambot (talk • contribs) 14:25, 27 July 2003 (UTC)

History section
While working through New Jersey counties with the US counties wikiproject, I noticed the poorly-written history part of this article. I corrected the spelling errors and did my best to make it grammatically correct, but I'm not sure whether the result is accurate, as I've never been to the area. Also: I'm very curious about the idea of the sunken ship being stored in a shed. Was it dredged up? It doesn't sound very likely to me, but stranger things have happened. Nyttend 16:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

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Education section?
Would an education section linking to Gloucester County College and GCIT be appropriate? Allens (talk) 12:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Simpler names for townships
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Talk:Hudson County, New Jersey

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As you see, I've made some changes to improve this article. As there seems to be a variety of formats for presenting information, or more specically the order in which info is presented, I've made some shifts from my POV as priorities. Is there a formula? opening, geography, demographics, transport, government, tranportation, history????? Does it matter? Would like to help with more contributions to expand this piece which is not rated, but considered to be of high importance. Djflem 15:31, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Now that article has been rated to be of B-scale, help with images, references, fact checking, copyediting, and concise contributions would seem to be in order. All help is appreciated. Djflem 19:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Ethnic/economic diversity
Most people who live in Hudson experience the ethnic and economic diversity of the the city everyday, so it's quite easy to make statements about it. On the other hand there are people who fill the necessity of an encyclopedia to include substanciated facts. both are valid. i've included, by adding in the section Interesting facts that should satisfy both sides and hopefully will help with the Jersey City article as well.Djflem 18:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Politics
This section needs to go unless there is significant justification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.80.116.183 (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Mergers, Incorporations, Boundaries
Anyone willing to sort this out to give a proper image of what took place? Section will need to go otherwise...Djflem 00:41, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Most racially diverse
I'm changing the "Jersey City" thing that states this, as Jersey City is the most ethnically diverse (41 % of the population is Hispanic (which is not a race), much of it is middle eastern, and much of it is of Italian descent, and some Irish. Most Hispanics (if but barely)are White, Arabs are White, Italian and Irish people are defitnitely White.  Thanks Iamanadam 16:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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Laguardia
As discussed in another article, Laguardia is not in Hudson County. There is no reason to put it here except boosterism and WP:TRAVEL.There is plenty left to cover in this article that editors don't need to pretend that resources that aren't actually within the county need to be covered here. Suggest sticking to the WP:TOPIC.Student7 (talk) 01:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Exhibitions
I am removing the tag that demands "It needs sources or references that appear in third-party publications. Tagged since October 2010." and "It is written like an advertisement and needs to be rewritten from a neutral point of view." It doesn't need third party references to establish verifiability, those are needed only for notability. If each entry was to have their own article then we would need to have third party references to establish notability. It doesn't read like an ad at all, it is a list, there is just a few sentences of text and a list. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:27, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I've restored the tags. My concern is the section is being used to list and promote exhibitions that are not notable in their own right, and have no independent sources. The relevant policies are WP:RS (especially WP:SPS), WP:NOTADVERTISING, and WP:NPOV (especially WP:UNDUE). Sorry if the tags aren't a perfect fit for the situation.
 * "If each entry was to have their own article then we would need to have third party references to establish notability." I don't understand your meaning. Could you explain further? --Ronz (talk) 17:26, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * To verify an entry on a list the reference doesn't have to come from a third-party. Third party references are needed to establish notability for the topic of the article, in this case the topic is "Hudson County, New Jersey". I think you are arguing that there are too many museums and exhibition spaces listed. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for clarifying.
 * Could you address my concerns now, or do I need to explain them further?
 * It's not that there are too many listed, it's how the entries are being justified in the list, and the fact that this list is being used to promote exhibitions (sometimes through WP:REFSPAM). --Ronz (talk) 20:03, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Bergen/New Jersey counties - demographics section upgrade
Transposed from Alansohn (talk)'s talk page: Fabulous work on upgrading the Bergen County article, Alansohn, thank you! I think this should be kicked up another notch for New Jersey counties in general. Have you seen the Orange County, California article before, with its wealth of municipal demographic information? Let me know what you think of doing the same for New Jersey counties. Best, Castncoot (talk) 17:41, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
 * In fact, now that I look at it, other California counties (e.g., Los Angeles County) are formatted the same way. Castncoot (talk) 17:45, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

 * 1. Agreed that you've (Alansohn) done a very good job on Bergen County, and a tremendous job of updating so much data for the state!
 * 2. Also agree with Castncoot that the collapsible sections in Orange County make it much easier to read!
 * It's great to work with such dedicated people! Jacona (talk) 17:55, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the thanks from both of you. I'm working my way through the counties by alphabetical order, updating geography, county government, politics and municipalities as a focus, with other edits as they arise. I think that the New Jersey county articles are a strong start, but where the California articles come off better is in history an other sections where there is greater work in prose and descriptions of geography, economy, sports and culture. I'd love to see one of the New Jersey county articles expanded using Orange, Los Angeles or Nape counties as a model, perhaps with one of the weaker county articles., kudos to you on the ethnodemographic side, which should be ported over to other counties, and I agree that Hudson County would be a good place to start, probably followed by Essex and Passaic in the area. , I think that we are reaching some sort of consensus on some of the wording for area and other data, and I hope that we can mutually agree on some wording that would allow us to use AWB (or other tools) to apply the changes on a more consistent, thorough and faster basis. It's amazing what one person can do, but all the more work can be accomplished working together. Alansohn (talk) 18:05, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

 * Sounds like a plan. Castncoot (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

 * As far as the wording on the land/water area goes, I think I like the "including" or "composed of" wording best. Anything to get rid of that extra comma and the two "of it"s. Jacona (talk) 21:54, 12 May 2015 (UTC)

 * Will transpose this thread to the Talk page of Hudson County. Castncoot (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

--- Will leave a period for others to comment upon before this is embarked upon for Hudson County. Castncoot (talk) 21:02, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

 * --- OK, subsection started here, and similarly started in the Jersey City article, given that Jersey City constitutes the predominance of Hudson County's diversity and has a total population greater than several New Jersey counties themselves. Castncoot (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Elected Positions Out of Date
I noticed that the elected positions are out of date. I updated the names/dates for the Commissioners. Does anyone know the term expiration for the Surrogate and Sheriff?Acebarry (talk) 02:57, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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Pictures
Would anyone happen to have pictures that they could post of Hunterdon County? I checked all the towns linked under Hunterdon County and did not see one. Sorry I am not familiar with protocol, but can someone make an official request for wikipedians in that area to take some pictures? I would gladly take some pics myself, but moved out of the area a while ago. Thanks. Skeeter08865 (talk) 17:14, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Income ranking
The following statement was removed from the article: "Statistically Hunterdon County's household and family incomes place it as the fourth richest county in the United States, as well as the wealthiest in New Jersey. Hunterdon's averages outpace traditionally wealthy counties including Westchester County, New York, Fairfield County, Connecticut and Orange County, California."

The page Highest-income counties in the United States ranks it 13th in the US and third in NJ. If this statement is to be included it needs a source. Alansohn 23:45, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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Political trends
The political trend for Hunterdon County as a whole is increasingly toward being decreasingly Republican. Trump's margin shrank by over 10% between 2016 and 2020. The county may be in play for the 2024 Presidential election, just like I predicted in Morris County for 2020. Watch---Hunterdon and Morris will begin electing Democrats as Freeholders soon. Heff01 (talk) 03:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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Simpler names for townships
Should these be applied to the municipalities section for townships? ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 14:07, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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I think it might be worth noting that Mercer County is considered part of both the New York and Delaware Valley (Philadelphia) metro areas...suburbs extending from the two cities have started to meet there, and the lines between the two metro areas are beginning to blur (and considering the rate at which both metro areas are growing it seems likely that this trend is going to continue.)

No doubt Philadelphia is growing, but in my opinion New York is growing at a faster rate. There does not seem to be an equal push from both metro areas into Mercer. Rather, Philadelphia is likely to push further west and east into less developed, and therefore cheaper areas. There is more of an incentive for New York City (and surrounding areas) to commuter further down (Mercer) or west (Sussex) because the metro area is already incredibly dense. The more logical choice for Philadelphia commuters seems to be the counties west of the western suburbs (Berks) and counties east of the eastern suburbs (Ocean and Atlantic Counties, NJ), where there is still room to develop, unlike the surrounding NYC counties. When I was living in South Jersey (long time ago for sure), there was still a lot of room in Burlington County and certainly plenty of room in Gloucester County. New developments in areas less densely populated tend to have the lowest costs, thereby attracting the flow. I don't see Philadelphia growing in Mercer any more than it already has. Jps57 (talk) 01:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)jps57

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Municipalities Map
Have a concern about the municipalities map that colors each of the municipalities according to whether they're a borough, township, city, etc. I wonder if the color coding on this map unintentionally misleads the user. In New Jersey, there is not necessarily a legal distinction between a "city" and a "township" (or a "borough"). These are mostly historical designations. For example, in Mercer County, "Hamilton Township" and "City of Trenton" have the same legal form of government ("Mayor-Council" under the Optional Municipal Charter Law, or "Faulkner" act.) Meanwhile, since Princeton Borough and Princeton Township merged a few years back, the new entity has begun referring to itself as the "Municipality of Princeton", but uses the traditional "Borough" form of government.

I could try to fix this but it would take some time.

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Law and Goevernment
I updated the title Chosen Freeholder to County Commissioner, but the people holding actual office in 2021 in this section, and the references thereto need updating. Would someone please help me with that? I no longer live there, but I'd sure like to know who to contact about my aged mother's not having been able to get a COVID vaccination yet! WordwizardW (talk) 18:04, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Simpler names for townships
Should these be applied to the municipalities section for townships? ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 13:24, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Middlesex County, New Jersey

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Graphic
Is this article missing a graphic/map of the county's location?--达伟 (talk) 00:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Middlesex County, New Jersey
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Middlesex County, New Jersey's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Freeholders": From Sussex County, New Jersey: Sussex County Board of Chosen Freeholders, Sussex County, New Jersey. Accessed September 21, 2014. From Atlantic County, New Jersey: Atlantic County Board of Chosen Freeholders, Atlantic County, New Jersey. Accessed October 21, 2017. From Monmouth County, New Jersey: Board of Chosen Freeholders, Monmouth County, New Jersey. Accessed October 21, 2017. From Union County, New Jersey: Board of Chosen Freeholders, Union County, New Jersey. Accessed January 25, 2016.

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Simpler names for townships
Should these be applied to the municipalities section for townships? ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 13:17, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

 * No. That's the full town name. If you want to do those kinds of edits, I suggest opening a move request to change the article titles as well. If you do, I suggest you open only one RM that lists all of them. Instructions on how to do that are at WP:RM. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:40, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Some of them are not using the full town name tho that was the reason why I made those changes the first time ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Im confused ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 14:32, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I suggest opening a multi-article move request and let a discussion play out. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:52, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, consider this a reply to all of the duplicate questions you asked elsewhere. Generally, it's better to ask these kinds of questions in one location and then point a reference from the other affected talk pages to where the discussion is. For common discussions of articles that fall under a Wikiproject (such as WikiProject New Jersey in this case) the discussion is usually best held there with pointers from the articles' talk pages. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, consider this a reply to all of the duplicate questions you asked elsewhere. Generally, it's better to ask these kinds of questions in one location and then point a reference from the other affected talk pages to where the discussion is. For common discussions of articles that fall under a Wikiproject (such as WikiProject New Jersey in this case) the discussion is usually best held there with pointers from the articles' talk pages. - UtherSRG (talk) 13:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Monmouth County, New Jersey

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Unincorporated Territory
The map shows the maritime municipal boundaries, but I noticed that some water in the Atlantic and in Raritan Bay are not shown to be part of any municipality. Does this mean they are unincorporated waters: being part of Monmouth County, but not any municipality? 98.221.131.77 (talk) 10:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Monmouth trending Republican?
Are you sure? Bush did recieve a higher percent of the vote in 2004, but then, if you look at the map, EVERY county in New Jersey swung toward the Republicans. That was from a 9/11 boost he recieved in the state. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.170.110 (talk) 23:13, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Origin of name
Currently says: ''Its name came from a suggestion from Colonel Lewis Morris. He suggested it be named after Monmouthshire, Wales.'' But the page List of counties in New Jersey says its name comes from "Rhode Island Monmouth Society", with a reference to Origin of New Jersey Placenames, M, which says " Rhode Island Monmouth Society, settlers", implying the first settlers were of this society. That reference also says "This publication was compiled by workers of the Federal Writers' Program of the Work Projects Administration in the State of New Jersey, and was sponsored by the New Jersey State Library Commission." Sounds pretty good, but what do I know? I'll just add a fact tag. Pfly (talk) 04:04, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * There may be more than one accepted derivation. If the Monmouthshire, Wales theory has a source, both should be listed here. Alansohn (talk) 08:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

"Border" with Staten Island
If Monmouth County shares a "border" with Staten Island by way of the Raritan Bay, then so, too, does it share a border with Brooklyn, Queens, and all of Long Island for that matter. With the exception of rivers, borders tend to be land based. The fact that there is no bridge between MoCo and S.I., as there is between Middlesex Co. and S.I., and Union Co. and S.I., only underscores this point. Terrapin7 (talk) 16:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Monmouth County doesn't border "all of Long Island," because New Jersey state waters don't extend that far east in the Atlantic. Monmouth County does have a maritime border with both Richmond County, NY (Borough of Staten Island), and Queens County, NY (Borough of Queens).  It doesn't border Kings County, NY (Borough of Brooklyn) because technically Queens and Staten Island share a maritime boundary.  If you're in Coney Island, Brooklyn and go south, you enter Queens waters before crossing the state line into Monmouth County, NJ. 98.221.131.77 (talk) 10:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Rutgers advert?
Moved comment from Talk:Monmouth County, New Jersey/Comments Astronaut (talk) 16:29, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

The Education section contains a sentence which is clearly an advertisement placed by someone at Rutgers University:

"Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey has a partnership with Brookdale Community College which offers Bachelor degree completion programs at Brookdale's Freehold campus. For more information on this program please visit http://www.wmhec.rutgers.edu."

The link is to Rutgers' web site. However, BCC has partnerships with all of the four-year colleges and universities which are part of the Communiversity, not just Rutgers (see http://www.brookdalecc.edu/pages/2324.asp).

Advertisements are not supposed to appear in Wikipedia entries. I recommend the deletion of this entire passage and replacing it with one which describes the Communiversity in a balanced way, including listing off all of the universities which are part of the Communiversity consortium with BCC, instead of just one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.98.16.84 (talk) 18:01, 15 October 2009

Founding Date 1683
From the Monmouth county website: Monmouth County was officially formed on March 7, 1683, by the General Assembly as one of the four original counties of the Province of East Jersey. "It was named, through the influence of Colonel Lewis Morris, after Monmouthshire, where his family had a vast estate."

From the following resource: "Using the Records of the East and West Jersey Proprietors", by Joseph R. Klett New Jersey State Archives: Monmouth – Established 7 March 1683. In 1693, formally divided into Freehold, Middletown and Shrewsbury townships —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.51.11 (talk) 00:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Model Monmouth Article on Hudson?
I think we should use the Hudson County, New Jersey article as a model of where the Monmouth County article should be heading. We are missing key elements like parks, landmarks and historic places, museums, and business. History ends with manumission in the 1820s. We have every possible roadway listed under transportation and talk about roads and transportation like we are all commuting into New York or going to the beach. The North Jersey Coast Line train doesn't just go through Monmouth and Middlesex counties; it also hits Union, Essex and Hudson for eight more stops. We should at least mention Newark and Hoboken to the north, and Long Branch and Bay Head to the south, as key terminuses. I like how Hudson County broke out transportation such that it didn't appear that cars were "transportation" while trains and buses were something else. The Raritan Bayshore doesn't flow into Raritan Bay, although we could include watersheds.

We have a lot of the content we need in articles that have already been written, so we need to begin to structure the sections and subsections and discover what needs to go in them. I haven't looked at Categories yet, but I imagine we can discover much of the content for the improved article by using the Monmouth County categories page. If we don't have enough structure, that could be a place to start.

I participated in the improving of the Erie, Pennsylvania article about seven years ago and it was fun earning Featured Article status. I would be interested in such an enterprise on a part time basis and hope some others might be willing to help as well.

Municipalities
A chart has been added which lists the county's municipalities. Next to the name of each municipality, an editor has added a number in parentheses (eg. "Aberdeen Township (50)"). Does anyone know why that number is there, or what it's counting? Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 00:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

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Sheriff of Monmouth County, New Jersey
With regard to [|proposal made 5 Feb 2018, to split section [[Monmouth County, New Jersey#Sheriffs]] to stand alone article:

 * Split There is sufficient material to warrant a separate article.Djflem (talk) 12:38, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Split Agree per above. The charts provided takes up too much room on this page, so making it a separate page would make more sense with added info. Plenty of reliable sources are available too. Tinton5 (talk) 04:12, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

 * Oppose- County sheriff is not a notable position. The current content should be trimmed to a list of names to address the amount of space consumed.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:01, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Moved per suggestion and discussion following format for similiar article (List of Sheriffs of Essex County, Massachusetts, List of Sheriffs of Worcester County, Massachusetts, List of Sheriffs of Norfolk County, Massachusetts) and List of Monmouth County Freeholder directors Djflem (talk) 11:46, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Split to independent article based on the level of independent content. Alansohn (talk) 01:14, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

SPCA??
Monmouth County SPCA does not deserve to be a top level heading along with wide ranging subjects like “economy” and “demographics.” 50.238.0.102 (talk) 21:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Simpler names for townships
Should these be applied to the municipalities section for townships? ThatOneJerseyDude (talk) 13:18, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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