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Wells College
Wells College should be mentioned somewhere in this entry. It's in Aurora, and it's the county's only higher education institution. Greatfaults (talk) 04:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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 * I don't think making a list of other counties in NY is any substitution for the history text it displaced. Is Wikipedia going to be only lists or definitive writing? Stepp-Wulf 23:01, 26 September 2006 (UTC).

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User:Souldrifter02 restored the Chamber of Commerce link that I removed, with an edit summary of: "this is area info that Chemung visitors would look for, no?"

My take is that Wikipedia is not a directory means that it doesn't matter that visitors might be looking for this info, what matters is whether the link meets WP:EL. With rare exceptions, C of C sites are primarily promotional-- this is not neutral, unbiased, reliable info: it is unencyclopedic.

Can you give me an example of information from the site that is encyclopedic, but can't be simply added to the article?

If you feel strongly that it should stay, I won't war over it, but it is something that ought to be settled-- there are a lot of similar links out there that, I believe, violate WP:EL. In looking for an example of info that "visitors would look for", I looked to see if there was a link to Disneyworld in the Orlando, Florida article. There isn't, but in its place is a link to "Orlando Welcome Center Guide" that is (to me) grotesquely commercial, and offers to sell you Disneyland tickets online. If C of C links are OK, how about this one? Seems to me that a more stringent read on WP:EL keeps one out of the spam. -- Mwanner | Talk 14:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the consideration of the topic, Mwanner. While I understand your positions and your points, I look at this from the perspective of a Wikipedia user.  Granted, Wikipedia is not a directory, but a Chamber of Commerce does represent the businesses of a specified region.  When I plan a trip, I use Wikipedia to research the area that I am visiting and use the "official" links to continue my research beyond Wikipedia.  The Chemung County Chamber of Commerce is an accredited Chamber of Commerce with the US Chamber of Commerce.  I can agree with you that the information is not unbiased, but users who click the link should probably expect that... I would agree with the removal of a posting of an organization that was not an official organization like a non-profit or for-profit organization that declares itself a source of area info, but a Chamber of Commerce holds more weight.

 * So my argument is based on how I use Wikipedia. It can be argued that Wikipedia is not a website for travel information -  but if that is how users choose to use it, then doesn't it fit the mold?  Granted, I would not use a "traditional" encyclopedia for travel info, but doesn't that prove how Wikipedia is more than an Encyclopedia in its evolution?

 * So that's my view.  I'm not too great at quoting Wikipedia policies so if you can cite Wikipedia policies that would explicitly demonstrate how the C of C websites are not appropriate to an article like this, I cannot argue,  However, from my perspective, Wikipedia policies are not designed to be "hard laws" but flexible guidelines that change and evolve with the changes and evolution of Wikipedia itself.

 * If there are others that would like to weigh in on this issue, I'd be interested to hear what they think? I too am not looking to "go to war" over this issue.  If someone wants to challenge my opinions with Wikipedia policy, I am sure than a moderator would likely side against me... and I'm not looking to get into an edit war over a minor issue.

 * Thanks for the consideration. Souldrifter (talk) 02:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

 * I admit that I have a visceral reaction to anything that feels like advertising. Jimmy Wales famously said that "Wikipedia makes the web not suck", and to me, that is because it is free of advertising.  And if you spend any time fighting off the spammers who are trying to use Wikipedia for promoting their crap, you can get kind of twitchy on the subject.

 * Let me refer any who read this to Wikipedia_talk:External_links where it was hashed out further (and in favor of tolerating C of C sites). And my thanks to Souldrifter for a reasoned discussion of the issue. -- Mwanner | Talk 11:56, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

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Our article says that "Chenango" is an Onondaga word, but this chart from the Susquehanna River Basin Commission, says it's Oneida. This history, from Wikisource, agrees that it's Oneida, so I'm changing it. Choess 22:53, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

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First courthouse
I understand, that from 1786, the first county courthouse was in Claverack, which so was the first county seat. I didn't find any hint in the text, when the seat moved to Hudson. Could someone please add that information ... or make it more visible? ThomasPusch (talk) 18:30, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

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The Cortland Academy, which has redlinks all over Wikipedia, seems to have run from around 1819 to about the time of creation of the normal school, into which it may have been merged as a laboratory school for the student teachers to practice on. Anybody willing to give it a preliminary stab at creation? I'm finding disagreements as to whether it was in the town of Cortland, in Homer, etc. - maybe it moved? -- Orange Mike |  Talk  03:34, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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It says Dutchess County has a Eastern border with Berkshire county. But on Berkshire County's page, it says it is a southern border. Which is correct?

Dutchess borders Berkshire County, Massachusetts to the east. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.81.129 (talk) 15:43, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Name
Where soes the name come from ? -- Beardo (talk) 17:25, 15 August 2008 (UTC) --- Yes, there should be something about the name included besides merely after the Duchess. I remember reading a whole article once about the how the county became D-U-T-C-H-E-S-S instead of D-U-C-H-E-S-S, but can't remember the details or where I saw it. Sound familiar? Wordreader (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Shakespeare used both forms with and without a T. The NY county was established after the T-spelling had been around for nearly a century. check this 1899 bit for some more info: http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70D10F83F5512738DDDAA0A94D1405B8985F0D3 ...And of course there's Fergie. Mang (talk) 13:24, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

The Oblong
I see nothing about the Oblong. That's a significant part of DC history and should be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wordreader (talk • contribs) 18:43, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

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No government section?
There are government officials mentioned. Also, no 2020 election results, in contrast to articles on counties in other states.Dogru144 (talk) 01:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Sheesh. An article about Erie County that rambles on about irrelevant loyalists in Tryon County but never once mentions the Holland Land Company. Kind of like writing about Massachusetts without ever mentioning the pilgrims. I'll take a stab at it when I get some time. Guybrarian (talk) 17:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Present-day Erie County was NEVER a part of Albany County. This part of the country was still Indian territory in 1683! Western NY was not officially owned by the US until after the Revolutionary War. 71.243.150.135 (talk) 04:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Realizing that some of the towns contain villages with the same names also helps. Tmesipt. 2.20.04.

Finished subordinate political units and other places someone put here. Tmesipt. 3.1.04.

West Seneca is not a city in New York State! It is a town in Erie County, New York. Author, Please correct the footnote summary.

Does anyone have historical census info? It would be good to see since the Buffalo Population has fallen so much and some attribute it to white flight to the suburbs.

Responding to the above, I did that analysis about a year ago for a paper I wrote, I can see if it's still kicking around somewhere. Long story short Buffalo proper shrinks since early to mid 20th century while the aggregate of all other municipalities in the county grows; the growth in the aggregated suburban communities, however, does not outstrip the population loss demonstrated in the city proper and the county still shrinks. Grzond 13:20, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Missing
The following municipalities are missing: Derby, New York, and Snyder, New York.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:03, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I added them.1archie99 (talk) 15:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

West of Canada-US Border
The lead has "To the north of the Canada–US border is the province of Ontario." Shouldn't that be "To the west…"? The border is on the western edge of the county, and the province of Ontario is on the west of that border. --papageno (talk) 03:11, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right, the only immediately adjacent portion of Canada is to the west. More importantly, I can't fathom why this particular point of relative geography needs to be mentioned in the lede (it's covered in the Adjacent counties and municipality section, and I don't think it's a truly defining characteristic of the county), so I've removed it altogether. But if it's restored: Yep, it's to the west, for sure. Thanks - Antepenultimate (talk) 03:54, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, glad the error is corrected. I'll let regular editors of this article decide if it belongs in the lede or not. --papageno (talk) 04:22, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

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Lake Storm "Aphid"
I propose we mention the 2006 event of Lake Storm "Aphid". Forich (talk) 21:17, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Mark P. Addition?
There really should be an addition of Mark Poloncarz as a standalone article; Joel Giambra, the former county exec, has one, and Mark definitely meets the criteria for notoriety. 2603:7080:6701:32E6:9D5A:AD86:6A85:20BF (talk) 02:29, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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Genesee County political units reviewed and elaborated. Tmesipt. 3.6.04.

Question.
There is an article for Batavia, NY, but while typing that term into the WP search, I noticed a result for "Batavia, NY μSA", that redirects to this article. I am confused - what does "Batavia, NY μSA" mean and if it's a typo for Batavia, NY, why doesn't it redirect to that article? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 20:00, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It's because Batavia has it's own Micropolitan Statistical Area, and this would be the redirect to more information on the topic based on this discussion. Buffaboy (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Map coming
Genesee County is next on my list of counties for SVG maps. Buffaboy (talk) 21:50, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Missing
LIke the two article for Batavia, the newspaper and the radio station are not listed. Why?

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Stephen Barnes Death??
Should we Include the Death of Former Cellino & Barnes attorney Stephen Barnes Who died In this County Builder900 (talk) 23:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

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Congressman Mentioned Has Now Changed
Kirsten Gillibrand has moved on. FYI. --Pat (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Adirondacks?
The Geography section lists the southern and western part of the county as being in the Adirondacks. I'm quite sure that's the Catskills, but my geography isn't great. Adirondacks is north of Albany, correct?67.245.170.188 (talk) 15:44, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

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What is the "eastern half" of the United States?
The article claims that Hamilton County is the most sparsely populated in the "eastern half" of the United States. Since Alaska is a western state and distorts the "halves" so much, this could be interpreted to mean anywhere east of a line running through approximately the western part of North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska, and Texas. If this were the literal meaning of the statement, then most of the counties in these states, in addition to all of Kansas and Oklahoma, would literally be in the "eastern half". In this case then, Kenedy County, Texas would qualify as the most sparsely populated.

I would assume that the author meant the states east of and including Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, and Louisiana, which would mean approximately half of the contiguous United States. Backspace (talk) 02:25, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Political units checked out and linked.

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Some more links and corrections. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.51.18.196 (talk) 05:17, 30 March 2004 (UTC)

Buildings
Skyscrapers! Oo! Look at the airplane! I love New York even though I havent been there! Skyscrapers! says the little girl! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.113.198.253 (talk) 02:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Internal Government Entities
It would be nice if someone smart on wiki could modify the Towns subsection to branch outline the levels of governments. As it is curretly, it just dumps all place names in Jeff Co. in an alphabetized list (inefficient). It would be more efficient to branch the levels of governemnt: the next level of government down would be Townships, such as Wilna, Champion, et. al. All villages (the one or two cities), hamlets, and named placed subject to that towns municipal governance should be under their respective Township branch. I just think it would make referencing further locations in the county easier. Clinton and Onondaga County pages do this somewhat well, though I feel improvements could be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.215.21.3 (talk) 17:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

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Rudolph Ackermann

Rudolph Ackermann (20 April 1764 in Stollberg, Electorate of Saxony – 30 March 1834 in Finchley, London) was an Anglo-German bookseller, inventor, lithographer, publisher and businessman.

Biography
He attended the Latin school in Stollberg, but his wish to study at the university was made impossible by lack of financial means, and he therefore became a saddler like his father.

He worked as a saddler and coach-builder in different German cities, moved from Dresden to Basel and Paris, and then, 23 years old, settled in London. He established himself in Long Acre, the centre of coach-making in London and close to the market at Covent Garden. His extraordinary business instinct, as well as his flair for design and talent for self-promotion, won him the £200 contract to design the ceremonial coach for the Lord Chancellor of Ireland, John FitzGibbon, 1st Earl of Clare. After this he designed The Royal Sailor, an 8-wheel omnibus that ran between Charing Cross, Greenwich and Woolwich.

Ackermann then moved to Little Russell Street where he published Imitations of Drawings of Fashionable Carriages (1791) to promote his coach-making. Other publications followed. An able artist in his own right, in 1795 he established a print-shop and drawing-school at 96 Strand. Ackermann set up a lithographic press and began a trade in prints. He later began to manufacture colours and thick carton paper for landscape and miniature painters. Within three years the premises had become too small and he moved to 101 Strand, in his own words "four doors nearer to Somerset House", the seat of the Royal Academy of Arts.

Between 1797 and 1800 Ackermann rapidly developed his print and book publishing business bringing together wide variety of talented artists and printmakers including Thomas Rowlandson, Isaac Cruikshank, John Bluck, Theodore Lane, Henry Singleton, Maria Cosway, F. J. Manskirchten, J. C. Stadler, J. H. Schultz, Henri Merke, Thomas Sutherland, Nicholas Heidelhoff, Augustus Pugin, and G. M. Woodward in numerous projects to produce both individual prints as well as illustrations for books and magazines, encompassing many different genres including topography, caricature, portraits, transparencies and decorative prints.

In 1809 he applied his press to the illustration of Repository of Arts, Literature, Fashions, which appeared monthly until 1829, by when forty volumes had appeared. The Repository documented the changing classicising fashions in dress and furniture of the Regency; Thomas Rowlandson and other distinguished artists were regular contributors. William Combe and Rowlandson's parody, Dr Syntax in search of the Picturesque first appeared in parts in Ackermann's Poetical Magazine and was then reissued as a bestselling separate book. Ackermann also published Rowlandson's masterpiece The English Dance of Death (2 volumes 1816). He introduced from Germany the fashion of the once popular Literary Annuals, beginning in 1823 with Forget-Me-Not; and he published many illustrated volumes of topography and travel, including The Microcosm of London (3 volumes, 1808–1811), Westminster Abbey (2 volumes, 1812), The Rhine (1820), The Seine (1821), and The World in Miniature (43 volumes, 1821–1826).

An inventor and innovator, he was important as a carriage designer and patented the Ackermann steering geometry. In 1801 he patented a method for rendering paper and cloth waterproof and erected a factory in Chelsea to make it. He was one of the first to illuminate his own premises with gas. Indeed, the introduction of lighting by gas owed much to him.

During the Napoleonic wars, Ackermann was an energetic supporter of the Allied cause and made significant contributions to British propaganda through his publication of anti-Napoleonic prints and military manuals. He became a naturalised British citizen in March 1809. After the Battle of Leipzig, Ackermann collected nearly a quarter of a million pounds sterling for the German relief effort.

As one of the pioneers of modern publishing methods, Ackermann developed an international distribution network for his publications and came to have significant commercial interests in South America. The business he founded in London flourished throughout the 19th century under the management of his descendants. He was buried at St. Clement Danes in the Strand, London.

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"Brooklyn" seems a lot more common. Move this page! --Jiang

Agreed
I feel the same way. NYC boroughs should not be treated the same way as typical counties.

Question fron a Brit
So what is actually the difference between Kings County and Brooklyn then? Martyn Smith (talk) 19:02, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

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Residents
Have just removed all entries that are already listed in the Rochester Residents list and added a reference to it. We can add in here any person who is in the county but NOT in the city, if there are any. Hopefully nobody has an objection to this. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 17:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

new user category.
FYI, there is now a Category:Wikipedians in Rochester, New York. Kingturtle (talk) 18:55, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Rich Funke is the state Senator for the 55th district, not Ted O'Brien. 66.67.32.161 (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Merge Monroe County Sheriff's Office (New York)
The Monroe County Sheriff's Office does not appear to be notable on its own. As it stands, it has a single reference. Another editor listed some local news articles at, but local news does not establish notability under WP:ORG. I've searched myself and have found pretty much nothing. The New York Times has a few archive articles, but those don't appear to constitute significant coverage either. I suggest that the Monroe County Sheriff's Office could be covered adequately in a small section on this page. -Apocheir (talk) 22:44, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Works for me. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:28, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

 * I just stripped a bunch of uncited or inappropriate information from the article. Time to build it up from there. Still needs citations, though, for the content that remains. Someone added some suggested sources on the talk page. Might have potential. Not my interests, though, so I won't work on that part. Platonk (talk) 02:04, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

 * No action on this discussion in ~4 months. Taking a look at the proposed sources, and taking a gander on the net, notability for a standalone article doesn't seem to be there. Many of the references mention the Sheriffs office only in conjunction with a more notable event. Coverage is on the incident, not on the office proper. Going to close this out per WP:SILENT and merge. Bgv. (talk) 21:57, 13 March 2022 (UTC)

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City of Niagara Falls and City of Tonawanda are in NY-26 Brian Higgins,Democratic,in the House Representatives  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.88.20 (talk) 18:52, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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Have done some clean-up - mostly removing duplicate stuff, and making it a little more wikified. please feel free to adjust as necessary. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 18:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Why include so much detail about Erie County educational institutions?
204.153.16.62 20:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

I second the question. There's a long list of Erie County, and then WNY schools from Jamestown to Rochester that are not obviously relevant to Niagara County. That whole section can be stricken. D. J. Cartwright (talk) 08:25, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

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Oneida County should not redirect here as their is another Oneida county, in Idaho.
 * -IkonicDeath —Preceding undated comment added 22:46, 18 July 2009 (UTC).

Flag
The flag spells "Rome" as "Reme" which is not a place. Additionally, all pictures I see online of official use of the flag use the seal on the state with yellow background, not the Erie canal version. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francophilique (talk • contribs) 18:42, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

 * File:Oneida County, NY Flag.svg was created based on File:Us-ny-on.gif. That sources to, which dates the flag as 2002. So it may be an older version of the flag.
 * I've notified the Commons user who created the SVG version of the typo and asked if they have any interest in creating an updated version. -Apocheir (talk) 20:49, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

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Every damn place
Whoever wikified every damn place in the county certainly set himself on the road to a mighty task, but is it necessary? Stepp-Wulf 03:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC).

The hamlets with the same names as the townships are distinct entities and should have separate links, and ultimately, articles. I'm trying to get county residents to check out the article, or lack thereof, on their village or hamlet and add to it. I doubt that there'll ever be an article for every spot with a name, but isn't that the mark to shoot for? Clarkpark

I'm working on fleshing out "every damn place" but it will take time and, hopefully, help of others. I see this opportunity for local historians and others interested in their communities to add information available to others. It's certainly simpler than setting up one's own web site. Paul Malo Phmalo 00:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Never mind wikifying, do all these places even need mentioning? For example, in the Town of Onondaga, "Griffin's Corners".  It's listed as a "populated place" in the USGS GNIS, and shown as such on topo maps.  I used to live a couple miles from Griffin's Corners and drove through it frequently.  It's where Griffin Road tees out on Route 80, just outside South Onondaga, and there are three houses there.  Another two or three or four houses nearby.  That's it.  Now I don't know if it once had more historical significance, if there was once a general store and a blacksmith and a boarding house there or something... but even if so, is it really worth mentioning outside of, perhaps, a listing or a sentence or two in the Town (not County) of Onondaga article?  And I suspect the same could be asked of many, many others of the hamlets shown here. -- Rsholmes 12:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Mentioning? Yes, I think so.  As you say they appear on the Census, and on maps, so why not?  now, whether they deserve a Wp page is a quite separate matter, and depends on what material people can find out about them. -- Alucard (Dr.) 13:45, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * But why in the county article, as opposed to the town article? Certainly major villages and hamlets should be listed here, but little "populated places" like Griffin's Corners? -- Rsholmes 14:06, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Maybe my take on this is a little flawed, but it's not spelled out in the county article. Instead the article links to the county template which contains everything in the county, includes CDP and hamlets.  This has been done in many other counties, both in New York and other places (see Albany County, New York, [Allegany County, New York]], Cattaraugus County, New York and many, many others).  The only difference I see with Onondaga County is that it Wikifies each of the place names. -- Alucard (Dr.) 14:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Maybe I'm confused as to what you're saying, but the Onondaga County article certainly does list all the places mentioned in the template. In fact, I made the template the other day myself using the article's list as a basis.  They're wikilinked in both the article table and the template.  Question... do "many other counties" include tiny populated places that are not officially classified as hamlets in the county article, and/or in the county template? -- Rsholmes 16:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Most of the templates I have seen have lines for Cities, Towns, Villages, CDPs and Indian Reservations and since CDps are a Census-=related entity, I suggest we use the census as a basis. So my take is that if it's a recongized CDP, then it's on there.  And as for the duplication between the article and the template, I say get rid of it from the article - I have done that for the two counties where I wrote the template.  Now I also see what you mean about if they need to know which town each thing is in, they should go to the town. -- Alucard (Dr.) 16:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Hamlets
If we take The New York State Gazetteer (pub. by NYS Department of Health, 1995; http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/scandoclinks/ocm35297616.htm) as authoritative, many of the "hamlets" listed here are not officially hamlets. The Gazetteer lists the hamlets in Onondaga County as follows:

 * Camillus
 * Amboy
 * Fairmount
 * Memphis (part)
 * Warners (part)
 * Cicero
 * Brewerton
 * Bridgeport
 * Cicero
 * Clay
 * Clay
 * DeWitt
 * DeWitt
 * Jamesville
 * Elbridge
 * Hart Lot
 * Fabius
 * Apulia
 * Apulia Station
 * Geddes
 * Eddes [sic]
 * State Fair Grounds
 * LaFayette
 * Cardiff
 * LaFayette
 * Lysander
 * Lysander
 * Plainville
 * Manlius
 * Kirkville
 * Marcellus
 * Clintonville
 * Marcellus Falls
 * Marietta
 * Rose Hill
 * Thorn Hill
 * Onondaga
 * Cedarvale
 * Howlett Hill
 * Indian Village
 * Navarino
 * Nedrow
 * Onondaga Hill
 * Onondaga Valley
 * South Onondaga
 * Split Rock
 * Taunton
 * Otisco
 * Amber
 * Otisco
 * Pompey
 * Delphi
 * Delphi Falls
 * Oran
 * Pompey
 * Pompey Center
 * Watervale
 * Salina
 * Galeville
 * Hinsdale
 * Long Branch
 * Mattydale
 * Skaneateles
 * Mottville
 * Skaneateles Falls
 * Spafford
 * Borodino
 * South Spafford
 * Spafford
 * Tully
 * Vesper
 * Van Buren
 * Memphis (part)
 * Van Buren
 * Warners (part)

-- Rsholmes 16:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I've edited the table to make the list of hamlets match what's given in the Gazetteer. This involved deleting a lot of places that are not hamlets, adding a few hamlets that had been omitted, moving a couple hamlets that were in the wrong town, splitting a couple hamlets between two towns, and adding " (hamlet)" to the wiki name in cases where the hamlet and town have the same name.  I've left all links as links.  Many are redlinks, but that's no bad thing as long as the link is to an article that reasonably could and should be created.  Now that the list has been pruned to true hamlets, I think they all satisfy that criterion. -- Rsholmes 16:53, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

 * On further consideration I am not certain this is the best solution. Hamlets have no official status, and while the Gazetteer is in some sense a definitive source, the fact is there are many other places that can equally well be considered hamlets.  If we deny them the "hamlet" label, what else can we call them?  On the other hand, if we include every place of settlement that has or had a name, the list will be huge.  I don't know what criteria were used in choosing hamlets to list in the Gazetteer -- there is nothing in its text that says.  Generally they seem to be larger than the hamlets that are omitted.  Perhaps for the county page it's best to limit the list of hamlets to those in the Gazetteer (and say so), and for the county navigation template include those hamlets plus those others that actually have WP articles -- in other words, merge what I've put into the "other places" row back into the hamlets row.  Comments/suggestions welcomed. -- Rsholmes 03:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

 * An alternative that has been used elsewhere on WP is the US Census "Census Designated Places" - these will include the hamlets. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 14:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I looked for a list of CDPs. I haven't found one with an easy way to identify the county for each CDP.  Furthermore, the Gazetteer hamlets are not all included; indeed, most appear not to be.  See List of census-designated places in New York. -- Rsholmes 15:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, maybe you'll be mad now that I deleted the redundant "hamlets" that are also listed as "towns". If there were entries for these hamlets or even a reasonable expectation of an entry, I would not have done that. But at least the "town" entries represent government subdivisions, whereas the "hamlet" designations often, if not usually, represent archaic place names almost forgotten from history. While I like preserving history, don't we need some actual entries for these "hamlets" to justify listing so many that are especially redundant with actual political subdivisions in the same exact area? EmjayMiller (talk) 01:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Onondaga County template
Does this really need to be hidden by default? I keep coming back here and forgetting it's hidden and wonder how many others don't realize? Is there any really good purpose for doing that? EmjayMiller (talk) 01:08, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Help wanted
I need some help on copyrights. I have a History of the Town of Skaneateles, which has information on the hamlets in that township that would be hard to find elsewhere. This book was written under the WPA writers program – employing out of work authors during the depression to create historical tomes that would otherwise never exist. What copyright status do these publicly financed works have sixty and seventy years after publication? What's Wiki policy on this? When I have time, can I summarize the history from this book and create articles? Can it used in its entirety (which actually isn't likely, since the book is a couple of hundred pages)? Is there a way to find out which other townships and communities were chronicled by WPA writers? This seems to be a resource that would advance Wiki's goals of preserving knowledge in the virtual Encyclopedia Galactaca. I'll check this page every so often, or anyone with answers can email me directly at clarkpark@twcny.rr.com. Clarkpark

 * I am not a lawyer, so take this with caution, but it sounds like this is probably on the borderline of entering public domain. Public financing has nothing to do with it, I believe -- copyright is copyright.  But summarizing in your own words should be fine. -- Rsholmes 12:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Photos
This article REALLY needs better photos. Anything would be better than those boring shots of Oneida Lake and Lysander. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.58.32.209 (talk) 01:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Presidential election results (reference needed)
This article's table with presidential election results references "Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections" as source. At least in the public online version of that source, the data presented are at a state level only; it is not clear where the county-level data were sourced from. Additional reference(s) needed. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:06, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Looking for help on Radisson?
The National Urban Policy and New Community Development Act of 1970 provided funding for an entity that would be in Onandago County called Radisson. Wikipedia doesn't have an article on this town. I suspect it was never officially turned into its own municipality. Most of the so-called "new towns" failed. But I see that the Radisson Community is an ongoing thing. Its office address is in Baldwinsville, New York. I wonder if anyone who works on this Onandago County article knows anything about this situation. Novellasyes (talk) 19:01, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

"Syracuse County" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Onondaga County Legislative District maps
... may need verification/ updating, following the legislature's recent redistricting. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 16:36, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

 * ✅. DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

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I have the utmost respect for Wikipedia and what you are trying to accomplish. I have donated in the past. I grew up in orange county and love to research the history of it. I was stunned when I read on this page of "Famous" people that Jay Westerveld is listed as famous for environmentalism and activism. Does anyone check facts? He has no education in this area and all he has ever done is send rambling letters to editors about made up facts and issues. Is this all it takes to get into Wikipedia? Letters to editors and rambling? Can someone explain this to me?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Westerveld as well as this page. Signed WVHS84 — Preceding unsigned comment added by WVHS84 (talk • contribs) 20:52, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
 * This is more an issue for Talk:Jay Westerveld rather than this one. This page just lists people in other articles. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 21:49, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Wondering how to edit this U.S. County Entry? The WikiProject U.S. Counties standards might help. No, The list says "cities and towns." It should probably say "Cities, towns, and villages," and maybe did so in the past until someone edited it. Hamlets can be placed in the town pages, unless they are such significant communities that they merit inclusion in the county list. Stepp-Wulf 02:01, 22 July 2006 (UTC).
 * Why are we putting every hamlet on the county page? Isn't the town page good enough? Stepp-Wulf 02:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC).
 * I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. The list at the bottom of the article is designed to list all cities, villages, towns, and hamlets...as they are all part of Orange County. If you could specify more your objection, maybe that would help. Newnam(talk) 02:14, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I've changed the title of the section to Places which should allow for inclusion of all that is listed. It is my opinion that the hamlets and villages should be mentioned in the list, as there is no reasno here to not be all inclusive. Let me know what you think, Newnam(talk) 04:25, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

 * If you look at some of the big counties like Nassau and Suffolk, people have tried to do this, and the county articles get to be rather cumbersome (like half the article is list after list of communities). Orange County has lots of places, so, if you want to do this, you have a big task ahead of you, more so, if you try to make an article for each little pudunk place.  Another concern is that there are many places across the state with the same name {"Wrights Corners" is really popular).  In truth, most "hamlets" don't amount to much, maybe a few houses and a convenience store. Stepp-Wulf 03:21, 23 July 2006 (UTC).
 * Ok, I took a look at Hamlet_%28place%29 and you're right, hamlets shouldn't be in there...however, villages should, as they are there own incorporated place. Thanks for helping to clear it up, Newnam(talk) 06:18, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

William H. Seward
How could OC, New York be the "birthplace of William H. Seward in Florida"????? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DellusMaximus (talk • contribs) 08:26, 10 December 2006 (UTC).
 * Florida, Orange County, New York. It's about 75 years older than the state. Kafziel Talk 08:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

How about George Washington? I haven't seen anything about him living in Orange County (he was from Virginia and OC was quite rural back then).Papercrab (talk) 02:46, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * He had his headquarters there during the Revolution. (Funny... almost three years since the last question and I'm still the one answering.) Kafziel Complaint Department 07:37, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps it would be more accurate to say that Washington was encamped or headquartered in OC during the Revolution, as I'm sure he never considered it as a "home" nor treated it as such. I doubt that Mount Vernon was ever on the market! With the War over and Presidential responsibilities in NYC finished, he beat feet. It's still a great association for the county and state, though! And what with the Purple Heart museum in OC and all (Washington's creation - the medal, not the museum). I read where NYS was going to close New Windsor Cantonment to save money, but I don't know if that really happened. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:11, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Washington's headquarters in what is now central Newburgh. A state historic site. Dogru144 (talk) 19:45, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

OC history - subractions and additions
With the loss of the Rockland County area, OC gained the Newburgh area from Ulster County. I am foggy on the details, though, which is why I can here. This was significant to the county's history and should be discussed. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

And OC was pivotal in the history of the French and Indian Wars, colonial "manifest destiny" expansion, and the Revolution - that's why Washington came to be headquartered there. RoseyGlow 68.197.49.1 (talk) 20:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Good suggestions. I'll see what I can dig up and add over the course of the next day or two. Thanks! Kafziel Complaint Department 21:19, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Does it make sense that the name "Orange county" was used in 1683 (before 1688)? I'm not well familiar with things, but it seems that other places named "Orange" are typically named after Willam III. Or was the county renamed later on? Or are county names from a slightly later preiod? Tzafrir (talk) 13:30, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Some places may be named for William III, but many are simply named for the Principality of Orange, or the House of Orange-Nassau in general. Naturally, as a Dutch colony, some of the parts of New Netherland would have been named after places in Europe. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 14:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your reply. At the time this name was given, this was already part of the English New York. Was this area called Orange before? Tzafrir (talk) 11:45, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Hard to say. It could be that the residents of the area had called it something like that for years before it became official. On the other hand, New York City became New Orange (which was named for William III) in 1672, so the northern county's name could be a holdover from that. But it might also just be traditional, a nod to the region's roots, like Nassau County 200 years later. I don't know. Not a lot of documentation to fully clarify the issue. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 13:18, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Orange County move request
You all might be interested to know that there has been a move request to make the link Orange County become a redirect to Orange County, California. The article Orange County is currently a disambiguation page for the seven United States counties and other things named "Orange County". It would be replaced by a page called "Orange County (disambiguation)" which would show links to all the other Orange Counties. If you want to join the discussion, you can find it here: Talk:Orange County. --MelanieN (talk) 03:20, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Points of Interest
I'm just a lowly observer, so I'm hesitant to make any changes myself, but I'd like to point out a mistake in the Points of Interest section. The Woodbury Common is most certainly not in Monroe, as its very name would suggest. It's in Woodbury, which is already listed on this page as being both its own town and village. Listing it as being in Monroe is quite inaccurate, as it is not even on the border of Monroe (or Harriman - which would not even matter because the closest part of Harriman is actually a part of Woodbury, not Monroe). Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.85.60.165 (talk) 14:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Fun Facts Section
The fun facts section is unsourced. Further, it consititues trivia. In the spirit of WP:PRESERVE, I am boldly not removing it, although I think most of it is unencyclopedic. I would suggest that the author source the appropriate content and merge into the rest of the article. Yes, yes, I know... WP:SOFIXIT, but I don't have the time... Roodog2k (talk) 13:31, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved it and trimmed a bit, pending sources. Just from the style of the list, I'm inclined to think it might be a copyright violation—copied and pasted from a website or something—so I'll look into that. At least, for now, it's out of the way and at the bottom. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 13:58, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Noah Webster
I tried finding references to whether Noah Webster actually ever lived in Orange County. I find references that he founded a school, but no references regarding whether he lived there. It was my understanding that he was basically a live-long resident of Connecticut. Roodog2k (talk) 15:01, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Named in 1683 after the British royal house?
Right now the introduction reads a bit anachronistically: "Orange County was officially established on November 1, 1683, when the Province of New York was divided into twelve counties. Each of these was named to honor a member of the British royal family, and Orange County took its name from the Prince of Orange, who subsequently became King William III of England". Unfortunately, this Dutch Stadtholder would not become king of the UK until 1689. Either "Orange County" was named after a foreign noble family (to please the largely Dutch population?), in which case "Each of these was named to honor a member of the British royal family" is wrong, or the naming took place later. Afasmit (talk) 08:26, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

No presidential votes?
Other counties have tables on presidential votes. Can someone add it here?Dogru144 (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Eliz Pope ? Barry Bostwick ? Brad Meldhau ? Al Sarrantino ?
Citations needed. May not even be OC residents... Peace is contagious (talk) 21:23, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please stop adding non-notable names to the notable people list. If you feel these are notable people, write an article about them.  Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 22:49, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Magnolia677 They most certainly r notable! U wrote thw article. Peace is contagious (talk) 23:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ps. stop stalking my work Peace is contagious (talk) 23:10, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Babe Ruth often visited and vacationed in Chester, Greenwood Lake, & Glenmere mansion
Babe Ruth, vacationed in the area, staying at the Glenmere Mansion in Village of Florida, NY & also in Greenwood Lake. He "bar hopped" between Middletown, Circleville tavern (on Route 302) and Chester (@ "American House" pub), after arriving in Middletown on the Erie RR line, and often spent time in Circleville Park, near the convent and lake. He got haircuts in Chester often by Mr. Roche, his grandsons wife is Anne Roche, age 82, is the Goshen Local History librarian. The Roche family has 2 balls signed by Babe Ruth. Peace is contagious (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

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Finished subordinate political units with labels. Tmesipt. 3.1.04.

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Whats the largest city/village/town in this county? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.83.120.99 (talk) 17:29, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Waterport
I live in Monroe County, east of Orleans County. My family and I go to a berry patch in Orleans County every year, and it's located in a [town/village/hamlet?] named Waterport. I'm just wondering why Waterport doesn't appear anywhere in the article or on the map. 74.33.174.133 (talk) 01:45, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * If you mean Brown's, it's not actually in Waterport. Regardless, though, Waterport is a hamlet in Carlton.  Currently only towns and incorporated villages are listed in this article, which I believe is consistent with other county articles.  Powers T 13:36, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

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Economy of Oswego?
I wonder if Oswego's economy would make a good addition--I came here to learn just that & was disappointed to not find anything. What does the Census say about Oswego's productivity? What about the Bureau of Labor? Are there any local reports on the local economy? Gio, Jaime, James, or Shamus (talk) 03:47, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

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Whitesborough Tract
In 1796, Ebenezer Belknap bought lots 5, 20, 28, and 33 of the Whitesborough Tract in Otsego County. Does anyone happen to know where that is within the County? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 06:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

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