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Hurricane Floyd

Hurricane Floyd was a very powerful Cape Verde hurricane which struck the Bahamas and the East Coast of the United States. It was the sixth named storm, fourth hurricane, and third major hurricane in the 1999 Atlantic hurricane season. Floyd triggered the fourth largest evacuation in US history (behind Hurricane Irma, Hurricane Gustav, and Hurricane Rita) when 2.6 million coastal residents of five states were ordered from their homes as it approached. The hurricane formed off the coast of Africa and lasted from September 7 to 19, becoming extratropical after September 17, and peaked in strength as a very strong Category 4 hurricane. It was among the largest Atlantic hurricanes of its strength ever recorded, in terms of gale-force diameter.

Floyd was once forecast to strike Florida, but turned away. Instead, Floyd struck the Bahamas at peak strength, causing heavy damage. It then moved parallel to the East Coast of the United States, causing massive evacuations and costly preparations from Florida through the Mid-Atlantic states. The storm weakened significantly, however, before striking the Cape Fear region, North Carolina as a very strong Category 2 hurricane, and caused further damage as it traveled up the Mid-Atlantic region and into New England.

The hurricane produced torrential rainfall in Eastern North Carolina, adding more rain to an area already hit by Hurricane Dennis just weeks earlier. The rains caused widespread flooding over a period of several weeks; nearly every river basin in the eastern part of the state exceeded 500-year flood levels. In total, Floyd was responsible for 85 fatalities and $6.5 billion (1999 USD) in damage. Due to the destruction, the World Meteorological Organization retired the name Floyd and replaced it with Franklin.

Meteorological history
Floyd originated from a tropical wave that exited the west coast of Africa on September 2. The wave moved generally westward, presenting a general curvature in its convection, or thunderstorms, but little organization at first. By September 5, a center of circulation was evident within the convective system. Over the next day, the thunderstorms increased in intensity as they organized into a curved band. Aided by favorable outflow, the system organized further into Tropical Depression Eight late on September 7, located about 1000 mi east of the Lesser Antilles. With a strong ridge of high pressure to its north, the nascent tropical depression moved to the west-northwest, where environmental conditions favored continued strengthening, including progressively warmer water temperatures. On issuing its first advisory, the National Hurricane Center (NHC) anticipated that the depression would intensify into a hurricane within three days, a forecast that proved accurate. On its second advisory, NHC forecaster Lixion Avila stated that the depression had "all the ingredients...that we know of...to become a major hurricane eventually."

Early on September 8, the depression became sufficiently well-organized for the NHC to upgrade it to Tropical Storm Floyd. The storm had a large circulation, but Floyd initially lacked a well-defined inner core, which resulted in only slow strengthening. The first Hurricane Hunters mission occurred on September 9, which observed the developing storm. On September 10, Floyd intensified into a hurricane about 230 mi (370 km) east-northeast of the Lesser Antilles. Around that time, the track shifted more to the northwest, steered by a tropical upper tropospheric trough north of Puerto Rico. An eye developed in the center of the hurricane, signaling strengthening. On September 11, Hurricane Floyd moved through the upper-level trough, which, in conjunction with an anticyclone over the eastern Caribbean, disrupted the outflow and caused the winds to weaken briefly. The hurricane re-intensified on September 12 as its track shifted more to the west, steered by a ridge to the north. That day, the NHC upgraded Floyd to a major hurricane, or a Category 3 on the Saffir-Simpson scale.

Over a 24-hour period from September 12–13, Hurricane Floyd rapidly intensified, aided by warm waters east of The Bahamas. During that time, the maximum sustained winds increased from 110 to 155 mph, making Floyd a strong Category 4 hurricane. This was based a 90% reduction of an observation by the Hurricane Hunters, which recorded flight-level winds of 171 mph (276 km/h). Around the same time, the pressure dropped to 921 mb, which was the fourth-lowest pressure for a hurricane not to reach Category 5 intensity in the Atlantic Ocean – only Hurricanes Iota, Gloria and Opal had lower pressures than Floyd. Around this time, tropical cyclone forecast models suggested an eventual landfall in the Southeastern United States from Palm Beach, Florida to South Carolina.

At its peak, tropical storm-force winds spanned a diameter of 580 mi, making Floyd one of the largest Atlantic hurricanes of its intensity ever recorded. For about 12 hours, Hurricane Floyd remained just below Category 5 status while crossing The Bahamas. Late on September 13, the eye of the hurricane passed just north of San Salvador and Cat Islands. On the next day, the hurricane made landfalls on Eleuthera and Abaco islands. During this time, Floyd underwent an eyewall replacement cycle, in which an outer eyewall developed, causing the original eye to dissipate near Eleuthera. This caused a temporary drop in sustained winds to Category 3 status, only for Floyd to restrengthen briefly to a Category 4 on September 15.

While approaching the southeastern United States, a strong mid- to upper-level trough eroded the western portion of the high-pressure ridge, which had been steering Floyd for several days. The break in the ridge caused Floyd to turn to the northwest. After the hurricane completed its eyewall replacement cycle, Floyd had a large 57 mi (93 km) eye. The large storm gradually weakened after exiting The Bahamas, due to drier air and increasing wind shear. On September 15, Floyd paralleled the east coast of Florida about 110 mi (170 km) offshore, as it accelerated to the north and north-northeast. At around 06:30 UTC on September 16, Hurricane Floyd made landfall in Cape Fear, North Carolina with winds of 105 mph, a Category 2. The eyewall had largely dissipated by that time. Continuing northeastward along a cold front, Floyd moved through eastern North Carolina and southeastern Virginia, weakening to tropical storm status by late on September 16. The storm gradually lost its tropical characteristics as it quickly moved through the Delmarva Peninsula, eastern New Jersey, Long Island, and New England. Late on September 17, Floyd transitioned into an extratropical cyclone near the coast of southern Maine. The storm continued to the northeast, passing through New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Newfoundland on September 18. On the following day, a larger extratropical storm over the North Atlantic Ocean absorbed what was once Hurricane Floyd.

Preparations
Early in Floyd's duration, the hurricane posed a threat to the Lesser Antilles, prompting tropical storm watches for Antigua and Barbuda, Anguilla, Saint Martin, and Saint Barthelemy. After the storm bypassed the region, the government of The Bahamas issued a tropical storm warning and a hurricane watch for the Turks and Caicos Islands and the southeast Bahamas, as well as hurricane warnings for the central and northwestern Bahamas.

Although Floyd's track prediction was above average while out at sea, the forecasts as it approached the coastline were merely average compared to forecasts from the previous ten years. The official forecasts did not predict Floyd's northward track nor its significant weakening before landfall. At some point, the NHC issued a hurricane warning for nearly all of the East Coast of the United States, from Florida City, Florida, to Plymouth, Massachusetts; however, only a fraction of this area actually received hurricane-force winds. The last time such widespread hurricane warnings occurred was during Hurricane Donna in 1960.

Initial fears were of a direct hit as a large Category 4 hurricane in Florida, potentially costlier and deadlier than Hurricane Andrew had been in 1992. In preparation for a potentially catastrophic landfall, more than one million Florida residents were told to evacuate, of which 272,000 were in Miami-Dade County. U.S. President Bill Clinton declared a federal state of emergency in both Florida and Georgia in anticipation of the storm's approach. As the storm turned to the north, more people were evacuated as a progressively larger area was threatened. The massive storm prompted what was then the largest peacetime evacuation in U.S. history, with around 2.6 million evacuating coastal areas in Florida, Georgia, and the Carolinas.

With the storm predicted to hit near Cape Canaveral with winds of over 140 mph, all but 80 of Kennedy Space Center's 12,500-person workforce were evacuated. The hangars that house three space shuttles can withstand winds of only 105 mph, and a direct hit could have resulted in potentially billions of dollars in damage of space equipment. In the theoretical scenario, the damage would be caused by water, always a potential problem in an area only nine feet above sea level. If water entered the facility, it would damage the electronics as well as requiring a complete inspection of all hardware. When Floyd actually passed by the area, Kennedy Space Center only reported light winds with minor water intrusion. Damage was minor overall, and was repaired easily.

A hurricane warning was issued for the North Carolina coastline 27 hours prior to landfall. However, due to the size of the storm, initial forecasts predicted nearly all of the state would be affected in one form or another. School systems and businesses as far west as Asheville shut down for the day landfall was predicted. As it turned out, only the Coastal Plain sustained significant damage; much of the state west of Raleigh escaped unscathed. In New York City, public schools were closed on September 16, 1999, the day Floyd hit the area. This was a rare decision by the city, as New York City public schools close on average once every few years. Before Floyd, the last time New York City closed its schools was for the Blizzard of 1996. After Floyd, the next time its public schools would close was due to a blizzard on March 5, 2001. Walt Disney World also closed for the first time in its history due to the storm. The resort would later close during hurricanes Frances and Jeanne in 2004, Matthew in 2016, Irma in 2017, Dorian in 2019, and Ian in 2022.

A state of emergency was declared in Delaware, Maryland, and New Jersey prompting schools statewide to be shut down on September 16. In Delaware, about 300 people evacuated.

In Atlantic Canada, the Canadian Hurricane Centre issued 14 warnings related to Floyd, generating significant media interest. About 100 Sable Offshore Energy Project employees were evacuated to the mainland. In southwestern Nova Scotia, 66 schools were closed, and provincial ferry service with Bar Harbor, Maine was canceled.

Impact
With a death toll of 85, Hurricane Floyd was the deadliest United States hurricane since Hurricane Agnes in 1972. The storm was the third-costliest hurricane in the nation's history at the time, with monetary damage estimated at $6.5 billion (1999 USD); it ranked the 19th costliest as of 2017. Most of the deaths and damage were from inland, freshwater flooding in eastern North Carolina.

Caribbean and Bahamas
Around when Floyd first became a hurricane, its outer bands moved over the Lesser Antilles.

Hurricane Floyd lashed the Bahamas with winds of 155 mph and waves up to 50 ft in height. A 20 ft storm surge inundated many islands with over five ft (1.5 m) of water throughout. The wind and waves toppled power and communication lines, severely disrupting electricity and telephone services for days. Damage was greatest at Abaco Island, Cat Island, San Salvador Island, and Eleuthera Island, where Floyd uprooted trees and destroyed a significant number of houses. Numerous restaurants, hotels, shops, and homes were devastated, severely limiting in the recovery period tourism on which many rely for economic well-being. Damaged water systems left tens of thousands across the archipelago without water, electricity, or food. Despite the damage, however, few deaths were reported, as only one person drowned in Freeport, and there were few injuries reported.

Southeastern United States
For several days, Hurricane Floyd paralleled the east coast of Florida, spurring widespread evacuations. Ultimately, the storm left $50 million in damage, mostly in Volusia county. There, high winds and falling trees damaged 337 homes. The highest recorded wind gust in the state was 69 mph in Daytona Beach. Beach erosion affected much of the state's Atlantic coast. The most significant effects were in Brevard and Volusia counties, where waves damaged houses and piers. Rainfall in the state reached 3.2 in in Sanford.

Farther north in Georgia, Floyd produced wind gusts of 53 mph at Savannah International Airport. The winds knocked down a few trees and power lines near the coast, but statewide damage was minimal. In Savannah, the hurricane produced tides 3.3 ft above normal. Rainfall was light in the state, reaching 0.85 in in Newington.

Tropical storm force winds affected the entirety of the South Carolina coastline, with statewide damage estimated at $17 million. Sustained winds reached 54 mph at the Charleston National Weather Service Office, which also recorded wind gusts of 85 mph. The winds destroyed a few roofs and knocked down thousands of trees, leaving more than 200,000 people without electricity. The hurricane produced above normal tides along the coast, reaching 10.1 ft above normal in Charleston Harbor. The waves caused minor to moderate beach erosion. At Myrtle Beach International Airport, Hurricane Floyd dropped 16.06 in of rainfall, the highest recorded in the state.

North Carolina
North Carolina received the brunt of the storm's destruction. In all, Hurricane Floyd caused 51 fatalities in North Carolina, much of them from freshwater flooding, as well as billions in damage.

The storm surge from the large hurricane amounted to 9 – along the southeastern portion of the state. The hurricane also spawned numerous tornadoes, most of which caused only minor damage. Damage to power lines left over 500,000 customers without electricity at some point during the storm's passage.

Just weeks prior to Floyd hitting, Hurricane Dennis brought up to 15 in of rain to southeastern North Carolina. When Hurricane Floyd moved across the state in early September, it produced torrential rainfall, amounting to a maximum of 19.06 in in Wilmington. Though it moved quickly, the extreme rainfall was due to Floyd's interaction with an approaching cold front across the area.

Extensive flooding, especially along NC Hwy 91 and the White Oak Loop neighborhood, led to overflowing rivers; nearly every river basin in eastern North Carolina reached 500 year or greater flood levels. Most localized flooding happened overnight; Floyd dropped nearly 17 in of rain during the hours of its passage and many residents were not aware of the flooding until the water came into their homes. The U. S. Navy, National Guard and the Coast Guard performed nearly 1700 fresh water rescues of people trapped on the roofs of their homes due to the rapid rise of the water. By contrast, many of the worst affected areas did not reach peak flood levels for several weeks after the storm, as the water accumulated in rivers and moved downstream (see flood graphic at right).

The passage of Hurricane Irene four weeks later contributed an additional 6 in (150 mm) of rain over the still-saturated area, causing further flooding.

The Tar River suffered the worst flooding, exceeding 500-year flood levels along its lower stretches; it crested 24 ft above flood stage. Flooding began in Rocky Mount, as much as 30% of which was underwater for several days. In Tarboro, much of the downtown was under several feet of water. Nearby, the town of Princeville was largely destroyed when the waters of the Tar poured over the town's levee, covering the town with over 20 ft of floodwater for ten days. Further downstream, Greenville suffered very heavy flooding; damages in Pitt County alone were estimated at $1.6 billion (1999 USD, $2.81 billion 2022 USD). Washington, where the peak flood level was observed, was likewise devastated. Some residents in Greenville had to swim six feet underwater to reach the front doors of their homes and apartments. Due to the heavy flooding in downtown Greenville, the East Carolina Pirates were forced to relocate their football game against #9 Miami to N.C. State's Carter–Finley Stadium in Raleigh, where they beat the Hurricanes 27–23.

The Neuse River, Roanoke River, Waccamaw River, and New River exceeded 500-year flood levels, although damage was lower in these areas (compared to the Tar River) because of lower population densities. Because most of the Cape Fear River basin was west of the peak rainfall areas, the city of Wilmington was spared the worst flooding despite having the highest localized rainfall; however, the Northeast Cape Fear River (a tributary) did exceed 500-year flood levels. Of the state's eastern rivers, only the Lumber River escaped catastrophic flooding.

Rainfall and strong winds affected many homes across the state, destroying 7,000, leaving 17,000 uninhabitable, and damaging 56,000. Ten thousand people resided in temporary shelters following the storm. The extensive flooding resulted in significant crop damage. As quoted by North Carolina Secretary of Health and Human Services H. David Bruton, "Nothing since the Civil War has been as destructive to families here. The recovery process will be much longer than the water-going-down process." Around 31,000 jobs were lost from over 60,000 businesses through the storm, causing nearly $4 billion (1999 USD, $7.02 billion 2022 USD) in lost business revenue. In much of the affected area, officials urged people to either boil water or buy bottled water during Floyd's aftermath.

In contrast to the problems eastern North Carolina experienced, much of the western portion of the state remained under a severe drought.

Virginia
Hurricane Floyd left $101 million in damage in Virginia, and contributed to four fatalities – two from fallen trees in Fairfax and Halifax County, one in a traffic accident in Hanover County, and a man in Accomack County who drowned in his submerged vehicle. As in North Carolina and elsewhere along its path, Floyd dropped torrential rainfall across eastern Virginia, reaching 16.57 in in Newport News. While Floyd moved through southeastern Virginia, it was still at hurricane status, producing winds strong enough to knock down hundreds of trees and power lines. The highest sustained winds in the state were 46 mph at Langley Air Force Base. Wind gusts were much stronger, reaching 100 mph on the James River Bridge. Floyd's winds and rains knocked down hundreds of trees across the state, some centuries old.

The heavy rains washed out several roads, and closed regional routes including Interstate 95 between Emporia and Petersburg, U.S. Route 58 between Emporia and Franklin, and U.S. Route 460 near Wakefield. The rainfall led to overflowing rivers in the Chowan River Basin, some of which exceeded 500-year flood levels. The Blackwater River reached 100-year flood levels and flooded Franklin with 12 ft of water. Extensive road damage occurred there, isolating the area from the rest of the state. Some 182 businesses and 150 houses were underwater in Franklin from the worst flooding in 60 years. In addition, two dams along the Rappahannock River burst from the extreme flooding. Throughout all of Virginia, Floyd damaged 9,250 houses. In addition to the heavy rainfall, tides in Norfolk were 3.9 ft above normal, resulting moderate to locally severe coastal flooding. Along the Chesapeake Bay, Floyd produced a 5 to 7 ft storm surge, causing up to 6 ft of flooding in Accomack County homes. Floyd's winds and rains knocked down hundreds of trees across the state, some centuries' old.

Mid-Atlantic
As Floyd moved northward from Virginia, a stalled cold front acted as a conveyor belt of tropical moisture across the Mid-Atlantic. Wind gusts in Washington, D.C. reached 56 mph at the Children's National Medical Center. The storm knocked down trees and dropped heavy rainfall, causing a shop on New York Avenue NW to close after the roof collapsed.

The hurricane's rainbands moved across Maryland, dropping 12.59 in of rainfall in Chestertown, Maryland. Statewide, about 450 people required evacuated from low-lying areas. A mudslide in Anne Arundel County stranded five trains carrying about 1,000 passengers. Flooding closed 225 roads statewide, with dozens of motorists requiring rescue, and more than 90 bridges were damaged. A man in Centreville died while attempting to jump a washed out bridge on his motorcycle. High tides, 2 to 3 ft above normal, affected coastal areas of St. Mary's, Calvert, Harford, and Anne Arundel counties, with 5 houses destroyed and 23 severely damaged. Flooding inundated the only bridge to St. George Island, stranding six people. The highest statewide wind gust – 71 mph (114 km/h) – occurred in Tall Timbers, while the highest wind gust in eastern Maryland was 52 mph (83 km/h) in Ocean City. The winds knocked down hundreds of trees, including the nearly 400 year–old Liberty Tree at St. John's College in Annapolis. The winds also knocked down power lines, leaving about 500,000 customers without electricity. Two people were injured, and one person killed, from Carbon monoxide poisoning related to using a generator. The Anne Arundel county fair was canceled for the first time in its history. In Baltimore, the Baltimore Orioles postponed a baseball game. Statewide damage was estimated at $7.9 million.

In Delaware, Hurricane Floyd left $8.42 million in damage. The storm dropped torrential rainfall, reaching 12.58 in in Greenwood, Delaware. During the storm, Greenwood recorded 10.58 in, breaking the record for the state's highest 24 hour rainfall total. The rains caused record crests along rivers and streams in New Castle County. The White Clay Creek crested at 17.6 ft, and was above flood stage for 18 hours. Statewide, Floyd damaged 171 homes, and caused 33 homes to be condemned. Flooding closed hundreds of roads and bridges, with two bridges and a few miles of track belonging to the Wilmington and Western Railroad washed out. Dozens of motorists required rescue. Winds in the state reached 64 mph (104 km/h) at Cape Henlopen along the coast. The winds knocked down hundreds of trees and power lines, leaving about 25,000 people without power.

As Floyd continued up the coast, it dropped heavy rainfall in New Jersey, reaching 14.13 in in Little Falls; this was the highest statewide rain from a tropical cyclone since 1950. Following the state's fourth-worst drought in a century, the rains collected in rivers and streams, causing record flooding at 18 river gauges, and mostly affecting the Raritan, Passaic, and Delaware basins. Statewide damage totaled $250 million (1999 USD), much of it in Somerset and Bergen counties. This made Floyd the costliest natural disaster in New Jersey's history, until it was surpassed by Hurricane Irene in 2011. Seven people died in New Jersey during Floyd's passage – six due to drowning, and one in a traffic accident. A police lieutenant took his life after working for nearly 48 hours coordinating floodwater rescues. In Bound Brook, the Raritan crested at a record 42.5 ft on September 16, well above the 28 ft flood stage, and exceeding the previous record of 37.5 ft set during Tropical Storm Doria in 1971. Downtown Bound Brook was flooded 13 ft, causing 200 buildings to be condemned. In Manville, the Raritan crested at a record 27.5 ft, nearly double the flood stage of 14 ft. Parts of Manville were flooded to a depth of 10 ft, which damaged 1,500 homes, caused 284 homes to be condemned, and forced 1,000 people to evacuate. A water treatment plant was damaged in Bridgewater Township, forcing nearly 500,000 people in Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, and Somerset counties to boil water for eight days. The Rochelle Park, New Jersey hub of Electronic Data Systems was inundated by the nearby Saddle River, disrupting service to as many as 8,000 ATMs across the United States. Flooding in an adjoining Bell Atlantic switching facility cut off phone service to one million customers in the area.

In Pennsylvania, Floyd killed 13 people, largely due to drownings, fallen trees, or heart attacks, and another 40 people were severely injured. The hurricane left about $60 million in damage, mostly related to its heavy rainfall, which peaked at 12.13 in in Marcus Hook. The highest wind gust was 58 mph occurred at the Commodore Barry Bridge. The two hardest-hit counties were Delaware and Bucks, where more than 10,000 homes were flooded, including 200 that were damaged to the point of being uninhabitable. More than 4,000 people statewide lost their homes due to the storm. Many creeks swelled to record levels, in some cases over double their estimated flood stage, which left motorists in need of rescue, including a bus with 11 students in Buckingham Township. Statewide, Floyd left over 500,000 homes and businesses without power.

As Floyd moved through New York, its precipitation reached 12.21 in in Cairo. Floyd's rainfall resulted in flooding that killed two people in the state, and caused several creeks and rivers to exceed their banks. In the Albany area, Normans Kill rose to extremely high levels, and the resultant flood waters damaged nearby buildings. The floods washed out portions of several roads, and destroyed a dam on a mill pond near Lake Placid. The Saw Mill and Bronx rivers both overflowed, causing urban flooding. The heavy rainfall triggered mudslides on the bluffs overlooking the Hudson River near the Tappan Zee Bridge. Winds in the state reached 54 mph at Stewart International Airport. The winds, combined with saturated ground from the rainfall, knocked down hundreds of trees and power lines, leaving over 100,000 people without power. Damage was estimated at $14.6 million.

New England and Canada
Floyd's heavy rainfall continued into New England, with 11.13 in of rain reported at the Danbury Airport in Connecticut. One person drowned in the state due to the swollen Quinnipiac River. Floyd's effects in Rhode Island were limited to rainfall and winds, which brought down trees and power lines. Wind gusts in Massachusetts reached 76 mph at the New Bedford Hurricane Barrier, strong enough to knock down power lines. In New Hampshire, Floyd's winds caused power outages for about 10,000 people, while heavy rains rose the banks of rivers. In Randolph, Vermont, a tree fell onto a mobile home, killing its occupant. About 15,000 residents were affected by power outages in Maine.

The remnants of Floyd produced rainfall and gusty winds from Ontario to Atlantic Canada, with 118 km/h occurring along the Saint Lawrence River in Quebec, the strongest winds in the country. The high winds damaged corn and other crops along the river's south shore from the l'Amiante to Bellechasse regions. The highest rainfall in Canada also occurred in eastern Quebec, reaching 122 mm. Power outages affected Montreal and Quebec City, causing classes to be canceled at the Université de Montréal. Inclement weather was a potential factor in a five car accident on Autoroute 15 in Quebec City. Minor traffic accidents also occurred in the Maritimes. Heavy rainfall backed up storm drains in Fredericton, New Brunswick. The Confederation Bridge connecting Prince Edward Island to the mainland shut down during the storm due to 116 km/h winds. About 6,000 people lost power in Nova Scotia.

The Bahamas
To help the affected citizens, the Bahamas Red Cross Society opened 41 shelters, though within one week many returned home. The Bahamas required $435,000 (1999 USD; $ USD) in aid following the storm, much of it in food parcels. The Inter-American Development Bank loaned $21 million (1999 USD; $ USD) to the archipelago to restore bridges, roads, seawalls, docks, and other building projects in the aftermath of the hurricane.

North Carolina
The Hurricane Floyd disaster was followed by what many judged to be a very slow federal response. Fully three weeks after the storm hit, Jesse Jackson complained to FEMA Director James Lee Witt on his CNN program Both Sides Now, "It seemed there was preparation for Hurricane Floyd, but then came Flood Floyd. Bridges are overwhelmed, levees are overwhelmed, whole towns under water ... [it's] an awesome scene of tragedy. So there's a great misery index in North Carolina." Witt responded, "We're starting to move the camper trailers in. It's been so wet it's been difficult to get things in there, but now it's going to be moving very quickly. And I think you're going to see a—I think the people there will see a big difference [within] this next weekend."

Runoff from the hurricane created significant problems for the ecology of North Carolina's rivers and sounds. In the immediate aftermath of the storm, freshwater runoff, sediment, and decomposing organic matter caused salinity and oxygen levels in Pamlico Sound and its tributary rivers to drop to nearly zero. This raised fears of massive fish and shrimp kills, as had happened after Hurricane Fran and Hurricane Bonnie, and the state government responded quickly to provide financial aid to fishing and shrimping industries. Strangely, however, the year's shrimp and crab harvests were extremely prosperous; one possible explanation is that runoff from Hurricane Dennis caused marine animals to begin migrating to saltier waters, so they were less vulnerable to Floyd's ill effects. Pollution from runoff was also a significant fear. Numerous pesticides were found in low but measurable quantities in the river waters, particularly in the Neuse River. Overall, however, the concentration of contaminants was slightly lower than had been measured in Hurricane Fran, likely because Floyd simply dropped more water to dilute them.

When the hurricane hit North Carolina, it flooded hog waste lagoons and released 25 million gallons of manure into the rivers, which contaminated the water supply and reduced water quality. Ronnie Kennedy, Duplin County director for environmental health, said that of 310 private wells he had tested for contamination since the storm, 9 percent, or three times the average across eastern North Carolina, had faecal coliform bacteria. Normally, tests showing any hint of faeces in drinking water, an indication that it can be carrying disease-causing pathogens, are cause for immediate action.

Retirement
Due to the high impact, extensive damage, and loss of life from the hurricane, the name Floyd was retired by the World Meteorological Organization in the spring of 2000, and it will never again be used for another north Atlantic tropical cyclone. It was replaced with Franklin for the 2005 season.

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I removed the two images recently added because neither were very clear. It was impossible to tell what they were pictures of. Also, the caption of one image said that Globe-Miami were "grooved together into one city", which isn't true. While they're adjacent, and to the traveller may seem to be one, they're seperate cities with seperate city governments, and are actually seperated by the communities of Claypool and Central Heights. --Bad carpet 00:07, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

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Besh ba Gowah, meaning "place of metal," is indeed the Apache name for Globe and the copper mines. My recollection is that the name got mistakenly applied to the ruin, when the archaeologist excavating it asked her Apache laborers for their name for it, and they misunderstood and gave her their name for the general area. I don't have the source at hand, but IB it was a book or article on the history of the ruin. I used to live in the area. --Pete Tillman (talk) 21:58, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

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I just passed through the Globe-Miami Arizona area yesterday and there is now a self guided walking tour of the Old Dominion Mine. I realized that the photo that I authorized you to use of the Old Dominion is actually the Miami Copper Company Number 5 mine headframe, not the Old Dominion. I have a picture of the Old Dominion that I took if you would like to replace it. Let me know. jerry_minemappers@yahoo.com Sorry about the confusion. Jerry — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.249.187.162 (talk) 16:23, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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Miami Mine names confusion
What's now known as the Miami mine was originally several individual deposits, many owned by Inspiration Copper, but the Bluebird mine was owned and operated by an independent operator, until the property was bought by Inspiration or a successor company.

The largest individual deposit is the great Miami-Inspiration deposit, which had two operators for many years (and may still). The Miami Copper Company operated the east end of the deposit as the Miami Mine, and also mined a deeper, high-grade deposit underground as the Miami East mine. There is another, deeper deposit east of Miami East, which is inconveniently directly under the International Smelter. The smelter would be destroyed if the latter were mined, so there it sits, for now. Last owner I know of was BHP.

Note the name confusion, as Freeport calls their end of the property the Miami Mine. It is composed of the old Inspiration mine and various smaller pits, all of which are idle at present. As is the BHP Miami mine, unless its leach plant still operates.

I used to work there (for BHP) but I'm not up to date on the current situation. I plan to look into it one of these days..... --Pete Tillman (talk) 20:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

 * See Miami-Inspiration deposit for a good discussion of the larger deposit, and some of the individual mine names. This might be a good start on a new article on the M-I deposit. --Pete Tillman (talk) 20:15, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposed Merge
Proposal to merge List_of_historic_properties_in_Miami,_Arizona with Miami, Arizona Are there other examples of small towns having separate articles devoted specifically to historic properties? I could see a separate article for a large city (i.e. Miami, FL), since the main article may be too large, but as half of the source article is actually devoted to the history of the town, it seems more appropriate that into the destination article. 97.102.30.205 (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Not to be merged. The list is a well written "list" which is part of a series related to historic structures in the cities, towns and CDP's in Arizona. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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Visit Payson? Maybe not...
I was thinking of a road trip up to Payson and was pleased to find an entry in Wikipedia until I read the section on Culture, which I think contains too many opinions to be encyclopedic, regardless of citations. In light of the other comnments and examples in this section, I wonder if someone is determined to present Payson in a bad light.

"The area is well known for the cultivaion of Cannabis Sativa. Some of the Largest fields in the United States have been found there. [4]

The use, distribution, and manufacture of d-N-methylamphetamine in the area is extremely heavy.[5]

A heavy concentration of registered sex offenders live in the area. Including individuals who impersonate minors and even register as students in the local schools..[6]"

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Some debated content
Okay, here we go, I've pasted in below the content that's been added several times. My main objection is the colloquial tone and overall unencyclopaedic quality. I'm open to discussion though - so is there anything in particular about all of this that you want to see added; that you think the article is currently lacking? This is just to get the ball rolling. --P e ruvianLlama(spit) 06:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

 * I've read carefully through the above, and weeded out everything that was overtly non-NPOV or irrelevant. I was left with this:

''The Mogollon Rim lies to the North of town. Three golf courses exist within the area, two of which are owned and operated by private country clubs.''
 * I have since added this back into the main article. Thoughts? --P e ruvianLlama(spit) 06:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

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External link redirected to scam site
In External links section, the link to weather gets redirected to a scam site. Not sure how to edit, or if it should just be removed.

http://www.pineazweather.com/

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 * Removed a link to a radio station broadcasting from a city near San Carlos. Has nothing to do with the reservation or town of San Carlos other than you can probably pick the signal up there. --Bad carpet 15:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

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This entry is actually describing Star Valley, Arizona. In this case, the latest census seems to have mixed up Sun Valley, which is in Navajo County, with Star Valley, which is in Gila County.

I'll fix this in the near future. Brian Rock 01:22, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)

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Are there any services provided to the residents. Water & Sewer, Gas, Electric,
Is there a city manager, council? 2600:1700:AA90:EB30:6531:63FA:447F:2B45 (talk) 16:30, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

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I think a place to start on improving this article is the Geography section. This place is a pass through the Superstition Mountains, is that right? That is why US Highway 60 is there. That is worth mentioning. --Prairieplant (talk) 05:45, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

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Were get winkelman his name?
Anybody knows? H. Winkelmann, Germany —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.130.109.57 (talk) 17:30, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks
I would like to thank whoever put up the map of the county and city limits. It is absolutely wonderful. Thank you again. Justin Herbert 01:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

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aka South of Town
My attempts to edit the article to indicate that Swift Trail Junction is more commonly known as "South of Town" have been met with revert action twice, by user Nyttend, who insists that it's a violation of NOR. For a similar situation, one need look no further than the article on "Gold Camp, Arizona". The CDP name Gold Camp is virtually unknown outside the census world, yet the article mentions the fact that it's more commonly known as "Gold Canyon" with no citation given. Why is this not an issue for that article? In the interest of providing accurate information, I respectfully demand that the "Out South" colloquialism be included in this article. Having grown up in the Safford area, I know for a fact that the name "Swift Trail Junction" is virtually unheard of within the community, and that the name "Artesia" and the colloquial term "Out South of town" are far more common among the locals. This is not original research, it is a fact. Roadiejay (talk) 05:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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 * There isn't a double standard — that's why I've worked with that article as well. Please understand: I work with thousands of geography articles nationwide, so if I do something to an article and don't to another similar one, it's quite possible that I didn't observe the problem elsewhere.  Nyttend (talk) 01:44, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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Old demographic data
Why do we still use 20-year-old demographic data? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnpacklambert (talk • contribs) 01:43, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Addition
https://history.wisc.edu/publications/the-great-arizona-orphan-abduction/

This is an interesting story about Clifton that could be added if a "history" section were to be added. UltraTech66 (talk) 23:02, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 * UltraTech66: that episode is currently covered in the "Brief history" section of the article List of historic properties in Clifton, Arizona. That section should probably be merged into this article. – Fayenatic  L ondon 10:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

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USGS Public Lands Survey Map shows Duncan as outside the Purchase. --JWB (talk) 23:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

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Pete Waterman

Peter Alan Waterman (born 15 January 1947) is an English record producer, songwriter, and television personality. As a member of the Stock Aitken Waterman production and songwriting team, he co-wrote and co-produced many UK hit singles. An avid railway enthusiast, Waterman is the owner of significant collections of both historic and commercial railway locomotives and rolling stock.

Early life
Peter Alan Waterman was born in Stoke Heath, Coventry, Warwickshire on Wednesday, 15 January 1947. He was educated at Whitley Abbey Comprehensive School until he left in 1962 to work for British Railways. He became a steam locomotive fireman based at Wolverhampton (Stafford Road) depot. In 2002 he said of his time working for British Railways, "I loved every minute of it. The squalor was unreal, but the camaraderie was phenomenal." After closure of the depot in 1963, Waterman chose to follow a career in music, being inspired by The Beatles. To supplement his income as a DJ, he became a gravedigger and then an apprentice at General Electric Company, becoming a trade union official. He also worked as a coal miner.

Musical career
Building a record collection through rare US imports, his DJ work began to take him across the UK, entertaining bigger crowds with a blend of rhythm and blues and soul music tunes he had sourced. Given a residency with the Mecca Leisure Group, he developed new initiatives including matinée discos for under 18s at Coventry's Locarno club, which gave him a valuable insight into what music interested a younger audience. Waterman noticed that the younger dancers preferred records with high beats per minute and this influenced his later work. It was at the Locarno that Waterman first met Neville Staple, later to be a vocalist for The Specials – a band that Waterman would manage for a brief period. In early 2009, Waterman wrote the foreword to Staple's biography, Original Rude Boy, which was published by Aurum Press in May 2009.

Waterman took up a job as an A&R man, and worked in the Philadelphia scene, which included introducing the Three Degrees to the UK. He then moved to Jamaica working with Peter Tosh and Lee Perry, and producing Susan Cadogan’s reggae-crossover hit "Hurt So Good".

In 1979, Waterman set up Loose Ends with Peter Collins, the first coming under the name 14–18 with a single inspired by World War I, "Good-Bye-Ee," and hits with artists like Musical Youth and Nik Kershaw. He then set up his own company PWL (Pete Waterman Limited) in 1984, quickly signing producers Matt Aitken and Mike Stock, who produced the song "Whatever I Do" for Hazell Dean. Stock Aitken Waterman became one of the most successful musical production teams of the 1980s.

Waterman has been involved in at least twenty-two UK number one singles with his acts (including Dead or Alive, Kylie Minogue, Rick Astley, Bananarama, Steps, Mel and Kim, Donna Summer, Sinitta, Cliff Richard and Jason Donovan) and he claims upwards of 500 million sales worldwide (inclusive of singles, albums, compilation inclusions, downloads, etc.). Waterman also appeared in the Steps video "Tragedy".

In the late-1990s, production company Celador hired Waterman to compose a song for their new quiz show, Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?. The company felt the song unsuitable, and instead approached Keith Strachan.

Waterman co-wrote and produced with Mike Stock "That Sounds Good to Me" by Josh Dubovie, the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest entry for the United Kingdom, which finished in last place with 10 points.

Waterman was worth £30 million in 2006/07, according to The Sunday Times Rich List.

Television
Waterman co-presented The Hit Man and Her (1988–1992) with Michaela Strachan. He also presented a show on Radio City.

Waterman has appeared as a judge on both series of Pop Idol in the UK (2001–03), and also Popstars: The Rivals (2002). The latter saw him become manager of the winning boy band One True Voice, who then lost the race to Christmas number 1 to the same show's winning girl group, Louis Walsh's Girls Aloud.

Waterman returned as judge for the second series of Pop Idol, but was constantly critical of the eventual winner, Michelle McManus, and was openly disappointed when she won. Waterman has since said he will not appear on any similar programmes in future, and has on several occasions attacked more recent talent shows (specifically those devised by his former Pop Idol colleague, Simon Cowell). Waterman has stated that he turned down offers to participate in The X Factor, Britain's Got Talent and American Idol, citing fix allegations and being put off by unprofessional behaviour including that of Popstars: The Rivals co-judge Geri Halliwell during the show.

Whilst he has kept his promise not to appear as a talent show judge, on 12 October 2008, Waterman joined his fellow ex-Pop Idol judges Neil Fox and Nicki Chapman on Peter Kay's spoof talent show Britain's Got the Pop Factor... and Possibly a New Celebrity Jesus Christ Soapstar Superstar Strictly on Ice, a fully scripted fictional spoof on the talent show genre. The show parodied the emotional manipulation behind Cowell's shows, with Waterman memorably interrupting a funeral to tell an ousted contestant that the loss of his gran (who had died of shock when learning her grandson had been dropped from the show) would provide the sob story he needed to get him on to the show.

In factual television, Waterman's interest in trains saw him present a historic self-retrospective view in Waterman on Railways for Channel Four/the Discovery Channel. Waterman also appeared in an advert by the National Blood Service in the UK, their sixth TV advert which also features Carol Smillie and Will Carling.

Waterman was one of the contestants in the 2009 series of the BBC programme Celebrity MasterChef, but was knocked out in the first round.

In October 2019, Waterman appeared on The X Factor: Celebrity. Waterman was part of an all star audience during the auditions stage in Malibu at Simon Cowell’s house, providing commentary critique behind the main judges, alongside Randy Jackson, Howie Mandel and songwriter Diane Warren.

Eurovision
Waterman wrote and produced the UK entry for the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest. This song was performed by the final three acts on Eurovision, Your Country Needs You! on 12 March 2010, Josh Dubovie was chosen to represent the UK. The song came under much criticism and William Hill's betting odds gave the song 125-1 chance that the song would win, the longest odds for a UK entry ever. In the end the song, "That Sounds Good to Me", came last at the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest receiving only 10 points in total.

Railways
Waterman's main interest outside music is in railways, and he has been involved in several railway ventures. In 1988 he revived the name of the London & North Western Railway, which as a group encompassed various ventures:
 * LNWR: a rail vehicle maintenance business, based at Crewe it had depots across the country, and was by the time of its sale the largest privately owned rail maintenance business in the country. Having accrued debts of £2 million in building the business in November 2008, Waterman sold it to Arriva UK Trains.
 * Waterman Railways: In 1994 during the opening stages of the privatisation of British Rail, Waterman bought the Special Trains Unit effective from April 1995, which ran tourist charters and special trains with six Class 47 locomotives and 200 Mark 1, Mark 2 and Mark 3 carriages.  This was the first unit sold from the LNWR Group.
 * LNWR Heritage: was the steam locomotive and carriage restoration arm, based at Crewe Heritage Centre. The company undertook the restoration of Waterman's own locomotives, as well as various complete contract locomotive renovation and boiler overhaul work. Waterman became involved from 2012 in an industry bid to create a national railway apprenticeship scheme, but the bid was rejected in autumn 2013. In March 2014, Waterman sold the business to the Royal Scot Locomotive and General Trust.

To hold his own collection of locomotives, he founded the Waterman Railway Heritage Trust, which currently owns several steam and diesel locomotives including:
 * GWR 4575 class number 5553
 * GWR 5205 class number 5224
 * GWR 5600 class number 6634
 * British Rail Class 08 number 08830 (D3998)
 * British Rail Class 25 number 25309 (D7659)
 * 46035 Ixion
 * 47402 Gateshead
 * SAR NGG 16 Class number 109

Waterman also has a keen interest in model railways, and is the founder of the model railway business Just Like the Real Thing, which specialises in O Gauge kits. He works closely with model-maker Laurie Lynch on this project. He continues to retain an interest in the company and regularly accompanies its sales stand to model railway exhibitions. Waterman has an extensive private collection of railway models and railway layouts, in O scale and larger gauges. He is currently building a large model of Leamington Spa railway station, in O scale and set in the 1950s. He has written several books and many magazine articles on the subject. He has said that his ability to become absorbed in making models helped him cope with grief after the death of his son.

In 2007, Waterman became involved in a co-operative UK rail industry bid to create a national railway training scheme under the then Labour government, which after the Government seed funding was withdrawn from all such schemes, was halted in 2009. Waterman revealed in 2011 that he had since spent £900,000 of his own money on training apprentices at Crewe, and that outside Network Rail's own scheme, only 37 apprentices had been taken into the rail industry in 2011. In January 2015, Waterman announced the sale of the bulk of his model railway collection, to fund the training of rail apprentices in restoring his steam locomotives 5224 and 5553, which in May 2015 were moved from Crewe to Peak Rail. In April 2015, the collection sold for £627,229 at the auction in Birmingham. In July 2015, in partnership with rail engineering firm OSL, Waterman launched the Railway Exchange Training Academy (RETA) at Crewe.

In June 2009, Waterman unveiled Manchester Metrolink Firema T-68 1007s new name “East Lancashire Railway” as a tribute to the Heritage Railway at Bury tram stop.

In October 2018, Waterman unveiled The Will Hay Appreciation Society 's memorial bench to Will Hay, Moore Marriott and Graham Moffatt in Cliddesden, Hampshire the filming location for Buggleskelly in the railway comedy film Oh, Mr Porter!.

In 2018, Waterman became president of the Railway Benefit Fund, a railway benevolent charity based in Crewe.

On 20 October 2021 during a High Speed 2 site visit Waterman announced the name of one of the tunnel boring machines to be Dorothy.

In 2021 and 2022, Pete Waterman produced two different OO Gauge model layouts at Chester Cathedral. Both modelled different parts of the West Coast Main Line, with each being branded as 'Making Tracks' and in 2023, Pete, and his group of other enthusiasts nicknamed the 'Railnuts' group, produced a model railway focusing on Milton Keynes Central railway station.

Sport
In addition to his passion for music and railways, Waterman is also a supporter of Walsall F.C. though he supported Coventry City for many years. He is also a rugby league fan and is president of League 1 side Coventry Bears.

Honours
In 2001, Waterman was made an Honorary Doctor of Business Administration by Coventry University for his services to the pop industry. In 2004, he was awarded an honorary doctorate in music by University College Chester. In the New Year Honours List published 31 December 2004, he was made an OBE for his services to music. In December 2006, he became a patron of the newly formed charity, the City, Lambeth and Southwark Music Education Trust. In 2016, Waterman was awarded Fellowship of the Royal Northern College of Music (FRNCM), making him the first pop musician to be given the award.

Personal life
Waterman has been married three times:
 * Elizabeth Reynolds (m. 1970–74, divorced): one son Paul (1971–2005)
 * Julie Reeves (m. 1980–84, divorced): one son Peter (born 1981)
 * Denise Gyngell (m. 1991–99, divorced); two children Toni Tuesday and Charlie Ella

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No mention of it at all? I don't know enough to edit about it, but I'd think it was noteable considering how many people attend it every year... 24.121.1.121 07:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

News
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/town-of-quartzsite-puts-more-than-half-of-its-police-department-on-leave. Not leave, though, house arrest. Lots42 (talk) 23:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Freedom of speech and corruption controversy
This section does not belong in this article. To the extent recent events are sufficiently noteworthy to be reported on in Wikipedia, then someone needs to create a new article. I am removing the entire section.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:11, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't agree with your removal. The sources were solid and the recent events are definitely noteworthy.  I could understand shortening the section, but not removing it in its entirety. Cla68 (talk) 22:32, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * As you say, these are very recent events, and it's hard to sort out what they mean for the town in the longer term, which is what the article is about. It would be better to let it play out a bit. There's no rush to add it, even in drastically reduced form.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:47, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Agree per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:UNDUE. Vsmith (talk) 23:42, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Endorse removal. This does not belong in this article, adn contained BLP violations. Lady  of  Shalott  23:49, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Endorse. The removal was a result of my inquiry at the Administrators' BLP noticeboard. I would have preferred admin action, but as long as the section stays removed, I'll leave it be for the time. Asav (talk) 02:11, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Asav, BLPN is not an administrators' noticeboard. Administrative action may be requested in a variety of ways, usually at either WP:ANI or WP:AN. Here, administrative action was unnecessary. In fact, you could have removed the material yourself and discussed it on the Talk page. Generally, content issues are handled without administrative action unless the dispute involves egregious behavior by editors or escalates out of control.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm quite aware of that. However, I hoped that this would attract administrator attention, as the matter was pretty serious and may have warranted further action beyond removal. You're right that I probably should have gone WP:ANI or WP:AN instead. Asav (talk) 18:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Actually, no, that isn't what I was saying. I don't think you should have gone to ANI or AN, and if you had, I think they would have rejected it as not requiring administrative action. In any event, this is a digression that doesn't really belong on this Talk page. If you want to pursue it further, you can post a message on my Talk page. Not a big deal.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:44, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * BBB23 is correct. No admin action was needed here. FWIW, you did get admin attention anyway, just no admin actions. Lady  of  Shalott  19:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Endorse removal. Section is way beyond UNDUE, has a very strong POV and absolutely had BLP violations.  Should the IP re-add it, it should be reverted as a BLP violation. Ravensfire ( talk ) 14:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Here was the text I originally added, which I do not think had any BLP problems and was not too long: In July 2011 a video was posted on YouTube showing Quatzsite resident Jennifer Jones being arrested, manhandled, and removed from a city council meeting after accusing the city council of violating open-meeting laws. After the video received widespread public comment and media attention, the city council, in an emergency, closed-door session, removed the mayor and declared a state of emergency. The mayor, Ed Foster, has accused the city council members of embezzling money from the town's public coffers. The city council has denied Foster's allegations.  Cla68 (talk) 23:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Putting aside the issue of whether any of this belongs in the article, the cited source is from over a month ago, and from what I can tell from more recent sources, Foster is still acting as mayor. So what happened? From my point of view, the only thing that might be important to this article is the governance of the city, not temporary political turmoil, which can happen anywhere. We say that Foster is the mayor in the article. If that's actually changed, maybe it should be reported on, but certainly the article needs to be changed to reflect whoever is the mayor. August 8 sources still cite Foster as mayor .--Bbb23 (talk) 23:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Gotta love small town politics! Found some other interesting possible sources - here, here about this.  Also here about where some of this is coming from (and also called Foster mayor).  Gilbert was cleared of charges filed against him, so not really anything there.  I think Cla68's version is still too much for what happened, but there might be something in what's going on w/ the mayor / city council / police chief stuff.  Ravensfire ( talk ) 16:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if there is, I'd wait until it settles down a bit to determine whether it belongs in the article. Most articles I've read about places are relatively boring (although I guess that depends on your geographic point of view). Maybe they have some major historical milestones that werre controversial at the time, but how many ever have current, unresolved controversies reported?--Bbb23 (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree - if this settles down with nothing happening, it's just local politics. If it ends up with major cases in state court and coverage beyond local/regional, then there's something there.  Small town politics can be ... interesting.  Ravensfire ( talk ) 16:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Whole process here seems similar to the "it didn't happen, don't talk about it" that happened there. Bit of irony.  >:D  73.181.82.26 (talk) 06:28, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Considering adding controversy section again
Recently, the town of Quartzsite has come under fire for the same things that have made it a national news story six months ago. The town council was recently found in violation of numerous Open Meeting Laws under Arizona state law, the Ombudsman found them in violation of the same laws. [Source: http://qtown.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/2011-12-10-Disposition-AG-Horne-via-usps-re-OML-violations-8-pgs.pdf] Quendishir (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:25, 25 January 2012 (UTC).
 * Even assuming any of this is relevant to the article, you can't use a primary source. You'd have to find reliable secondary sources.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:14, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

 * The document does appear to confirm that violations of the open meeting law did occur. The question is does this rise to the level for inclusion in the article.  Have any news agencies brought this up in their reporting?  I think you would need to show that reliable sources consider this a problem before it belongs in the article.  GB fan 01:23, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The first incident, six months ago, made national news. Let's see if this second thing does the same. Cla68 (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Would http://www.usatoday.com/USCP/PNI/NEWS/2011-12-15-PNI1215met-quartzsite-town-council-abrkPNIBrd_ST_U.htm count as a valid secondary source? What about http://www.azinews.com/2011/12/13/breaking-news-horne-finds-open-meeting-law-violations-in-quartzsite/? Quendishir (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 02:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC).
 * It's not about new incidents, just formal notification from the AG that they did it wrong, that they have to learn how to do it right and that the AG will be watching. This isn't all that notable - see here, 116 complaints, 51 cases, and 47 training sessions.  It's small-town, local politics.  One of my grandmothers was a town Treasurer in the late 60's / early 70's and she had some good stories from then.  Ravensfire ( talk ) 02:47, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Small-town local politics or not, the fact that the allegations were made over a year ago and has been a drama bomb should be pretty substantial. Maybe not to the extent people seem to think it is, but the fact that the Attorney General of the state came out and said they violated the laws should be pretty relevant.  The issue at this time isn't that the town council is accused of anything, but rather previous accusations have been substantiated. Quendishir (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 02:55, 25 January 2012 (UTC).

As it has been a solid 48 hours since my final response - and no one has brought any more issues up about the addition - I have added the section I mentioned. Quendishir (talk) 06:53, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've reworked it for appropriate weight and source-compliance.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:10, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

It was deleted again... From reading the talk page, not even remotely put any effort into getting a consensus. Reverting. 73.181.82.26 (talk) 06:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Some relevant updates on this town. Note that some of these are of poor quality (at least one is written by one of the subjects), but I included them to save someone time trying to find references.  Not going to add them yet, until more experienced users can verify them.

http://www.parkerpioneer.net/news/article_5fe22ade-089d-11e5-ae3d-3f58b06a62d9.html http://desertmessenger.blogspot.com/2014/09/losing-candidate-jennifer-jones-files.html http://desertmessenger.blogspot.com/2015/05/judge-dismisses-jennifer-jones-free.html  Not sure how to find the exact issues of the newspaper with these - anyone got access to archives to verify this? Newspaper seems to not be online other than here. http://www.sonorannews.com/archives/2014/140219/guested-jones.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPY3BIsVQq8 The infamous video, itself. http://paloverdevalleytimes.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=19362 73.181.82.26 (talk) 06:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

Removed as rather irrelevant local squabble - in the long term. who cares? Vsmith (talk) 12:42, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

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What's the best way to put in a trivia item that in the 1988 Post-Nuclear War Computer Role Playing Game, Wasteland, the town of Quartzsite was coded as Quartz? Scenario Designer Ken St. Andre is on record as having said the town Quartz is supposed to be the future version of the real life Quartzsite. Bassaf (talk) 20:53, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
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Name Change
I remember that the city wanted to change its name a few years ago. I don't remember what eventually came out of it. Can anyone check? Arbiteroftruth (talk) 13:16, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * An East Valley Tribune article from 2006 indicates that there was a move to change the name to "Superstition", due to the image associated with the name "Apache Junction" (a lot of people think "trailer park", I think). --Node (talk) 00:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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There is much more to lodging than just trailers. Don't make us look like trailer trash! Get more information or remove the lodging part completely. 184.195.87.236 (talk) 00:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

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Apache Junction was mentioned in the recent film Paul as being a UFO hotspot. I came to this Wikipedia article because I wanted to see if anything about it being a UFO hotspot was mentioned. I see no references to supposed UFO sightings here, but people I know who reside in the area say it is part of the community's history. The recent movie hasn't been added as a pop culture reference either. I'm not really a skilled Wiki user or I'd add this information to the article myself. 173.16.159.225 (talk) 20:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)AshleyAEubanks

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RE: The population projection... 2 million people by 2030 seems quite a stretch, to say the least. This reference (http://www.buckeyedevelopment.com/demographics.aspx) says 380,000. - 22:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

The total incorporated area of buckeye is 392 square miles (as of 4/1/13). The "planning area" is over 591 square miles. Much of this area will not be developed, it is slated for open space, parks, preservation, etc. An additional acreage is slated for industrial/commercial/employment uses. Taking a very conservative approach and suggesting that 300 of the total square miles will be developed as residential at a rate of 4,000 people per square mile nets 1.2 million. This is a reasonable number but it may take 60 additional years of rapid growth to see this number. Buckeye will be 100K people by 2020 Census and probably close to 200K by 2030.Boikdaddy (talk) 00:33, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

 * I'm not sure how undeveloped land counts toward square mileage total? Phoenix should still be stated to have the largest land area in Arizona. Bigapplemayhem (talk) 00:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

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Could a couple of you Buckeyes, of Buckeyians, step up and add a History section? ~ WikiDon (talk) 01:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Area
400 square miles and yet 377.5 square kilometres? Could someone in the know make this right? VanillaBear23 (talk) 11:51, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Numbers are fixed. I'm a City Planner from Buckeye Boikdaddy (talk) 00:35, 2 April 2013 (UTC)

More accurate distance from Los Angeles
I'm planning to change the distance from Los Angeles, California from 350 miles to 330 miles. I measured on Google earth, as I live near the area. Can you approve me? I will change if no one replies within 7 days.UsefulWikipedia (talk) 01:57, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Where in Los Angeles are you measuring from? I'm guessing Los Angeles City Hall? Bigapplemayhem (talk) 23:35, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

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Buckeye page is internally inconsistent
The main article refers to a certain land area, while the sidebar had a larger land and total area listed. Grimmjason (talk) 04:16, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

title: Talk:Buckeye, Arizona