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Associated with Madison County?
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2-23-06

My grandmother tells a story about the college:

During the Civil War it was a "polishing school" for young ladies. Methodist I think. The Union soldiers came through burning, after Atlanta I think. They were going to burn the college and all the women were upstairs looking out the windows. The president of the college had a letter. She said it was from Lincoln and it was orders not to burn the school. It was always thought that it was a trick and not really from him.

Also, blue spring park in Athens was not there when I was a child, I was told that during the Civil War it was covered over to prevent being poisened when the Union came through. When I was little they took the cover off and now it is a duck pond with a playground.

I don't know how to go about verifying this but feel free to use it however.

B.B.
 * So it:s poisoned, now, ironically! We had a spingfed "lake" in our town, too.  It was once pristine and beautibul.  Children would wade and swim there.  People would buy their children baby ducks for Easter, and when they started growing up, and were no longer cute little babies, they were left at the "lake."  Now it's a nasty mess.  Ni more swimming!  Rags (talk) 06:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

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Zpb52 (Talk) rerverted my edit: "Revert to revision 98334847 dated 2007-01-04 03:40:31 by MicahDCochran using popups". My purpose for that edit was to ask for a few statements where I think citations need adding. I used the notation   which looks like this  when rendered. I read through the document and only marked the ones that are easy to verify or if they are in errorenous should be removed. I don't have any reason to disagree with the factualness of the statements I marked up. However, I would like to be able to verify the facts (especially, if I am very interested in the topic). Zpb52, I would appreciate a reason for reverting this edit. Please point out the problems with my edit or my reasoning. Thank you and have a good day. — MicahDCochran 04:01, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. --Zpb52 06:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't understand your response. Please clarify. — MicahDCochran 12:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * No.--Zpb52 17:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Your short responses do not help me to understand why my edit was reverted. Since you won't explain your action, would you revert the page to the last edit that I made (the one containing the   tags)? By that I mean, revert the page back to the state as if you had not reverted it. -- MicahDCochran 23:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Why don't you do it?--Zpb52 23:58, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Concerns about the Notability of Residents
I am concerned that some of the residents in the "Notable residents/natives" section wouldn't pass the Wikipedia guidelines for Notable people (see Notability (people)). Last week, I added tags to ask for citation and verification of information. I am just curious about how to handle this issue. Thanks.-- MicahDCochran 16:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Major international art shows and major research documents housed within museums don't qualify? Do your research before adding tags! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.146.13.180 (talk) 04:36, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

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I am currently working to establish citations where they are warranted. Sedriskell (talk) 23:49, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Problem with Areas in table
There is a problem with the areas in square kilometers and square miles in the table on the left. I don't know the correct values to insert. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by KudzuVine (talk • contribs) 21:27, 31 December 2006 (UTC).

To Test Your Objectivity
Decatur has a problem with syphilis now. It is a fact. I have posted it on here to see if you people really can stand a NPOV, or want everything whitewashed. Please, don't disappoint me.

 * Don't delete it again. Just because you've never heard of it, doesn't mean it isn't happening. Yay for Decatur's beautiful Soviet-style logic!

 * As the piece of information that you have contributed has been deleted before by the AntiVandalbot, I see no reason for it to be included. So, it hasn't truly* been my decision, I'm simply holding up the AntiVandalbot's decision.  Also, if you're going to edit on this site, learn how to do it correctly, and with a username.  People might respect your* opinions more if it does not appear that you are trying to hide your identity. AlaGuy 20:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

 * How am I doing it incorrectly? If a user name was required, it would not be optional. I have a right to anonymity. I know it was removed by you and not the AntiVandalbot just by looking at the history, so don't feed me that. It's going back up. Plus, it's not an opinion. It is fact. Why do you think I'm including the link to the CDC website? By the way, if you're going to complain about untidy truths, learn how to spell.

 * It'd also be nice if you would read the correct context. I meant your opinion that it should be included (what???).  I'm not an* idiot I realize it was backed up.  One thing you do not have the right to do is to edit my comment on the discussion page.  That's got to be breaking some rules.  Who cares if I misspelled it, big woop.  Another thing, if you want that piece of info in the article, please put it in the CORRECT section, it does not belong on the opening paragraph.  The opening paragraph is not for that specific of info, put it in a section that pertains to the quality of life.  This site is open to anyone who has info about the place, but please, if you're goig to edit do it correctly.  The link need not be so long, and please move it to a section that relates to the info you are providing. AlaGuy 01:02, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, upon reviewing it AGAIN, I'm removing it again. This is old information. I cannot even pull it up anymore, the link is dated 1-31-1004.  This is the year 2006, a good two years since this information has been published.  If you can show me more recent proof I'd be glad to put it in the correct section for you.  But, seeing as this link is very old, I don't see how the information you provided is even close to accurate.  It sounds more like you're trying to make the city look bad, judging by how much you've been fighting to have this included, than to provide useful information.  AlaGuy 01:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The link still opens fine for me. I don't know why you couldn't get it up.

 * I went to another computer later that pulled it up. Please, read this carefully.  It is a copy of my previous comment which you obviously didn't not understand.

"This is old information. I cannot even pull it up anymore, the link is dated 1-31-2004.    This is the year 2006, a good two years since this information has been published. If you can show me more recent proof I'd be glad to put it in the correctsection for you.  But, seeing as this link is very old, I don't see how the information you provided is even close to accurate.  It sounds more like you're trying to make the city look bad, judging by how much you've been fighting to have this included, than to provide useful information."

 * If the information were recent, I would see a reasonable use for the information. But seeing as it has been delt with, and a verfiable epidemic no longer exists among the population, I see no reason why it should be included. If anything, it's a historical reference.  And since it does not go to the context of explaining how the city formed, it should not be included.  Please, try to understand this and tell me what the decision should be.  Think in the best interest of the article.  Not in the interest of shouting every last problem to the world. AlaGuy 22:49, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Decatur a "tiny little burgh"
Decatur has it's own Wikipedia page, and it's huge. It makes this tiny little burgh look vastly more important than it really is. Alright, which one of you Morgan County Economic Development Board folks made this? Let's not pretend we're *that* much of a "city". ;) Reverend Raven 07:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually I've contributed the most to the article, but I'm not a member of the Economic Development Board. Haha, I'm really not that old. AlabamaGuy2007 07:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * That's not really an appropriate attitude to have here. One of the fundamental principles of Wikipedia is a neutral point of view. Decatur, regardless of how you may feel about it personally, is one of the largest and most important cities in North Alabama. And to me, the beauty of Wikipedia is that almost anything people care about is notable enough to have a significant article, and that because Wikipedia is not paper, it has infinite capacity for information. Though you may argue about their relative value, Decatur does have its own history and culture, and I expect this article to grow a good deal more. —LonelyPilgrim 16:36, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

 * You may not share my opinions of the city of Decatur, and that's fine. However the tiny passage I added about one of Decatur's nicknames was valid. It is a phrase I have heard many times during my lifetime of living in Decatur, and I added it to the main wiki page because of this. It is as NPOV of a statement as any of the other statements on the page (some of the other statements even come across as not having a NPOV, but a positive POV). I encourage considering this, as I feel strongly that the tiny passage in question should be restored. Decatur also has a darker, more insidious side than the article mentions, and information along these lines shouldn't be downplayed simply because some Decaturite doesn't like the sound of it. Reverend Raven 01:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

 * I've also lived in Decatur my whole life, and have never heard anything close. By that virtue alone, I don't think it's common enough to warrant mentioning as a nickname, but it also comes across as somewhat offensive. It's true that Decatur, like any city, has its share of blights and dark spots. I'm not trying to whitewash them. Feel free to write about them at great length in an unbiased, neutral historical context. But inserting this as a nickname is only a step or two above name-calling. —LonelyPilgrim 04:49, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Slavery
It is said on many "dumb laws" style websites that slavery is still legal in Decatur, Alabama. I would suggest that someone in the know about this issue explain the history of this. It is a very strange thought, and I was looking here to determine whether it be a fact or urban legend and how this law or legend came to be. Jon Thompson 01:16, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Can you show us an example? That's patently impossible. To begin with, slavery was prohibited by the thirteenth amendment to the U.S. Constitution in 1865. For another, slavery would have been a matter of state law rather than local, and Section 32 of the Alabama Constitution of 1901 also prohibits slavery, in mirror to the U.S. Constitution. So it sounds like someone is just making things up. —LonelyPilgrim 01:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I should also add that I've lived here my whole life and have never even heard such a myth. —LonelyPilgrim 01:48, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I realize that it is impossible because of the Constitution. I also realize that there can be a law on the books that is symbolic, such as those legalizing medical marijuana in some states.  As for examples...

 * dumb.com
 * crazylaws.com

 * Also, please note that I requested an exclamation of the comment, including how it could be interpreted as true, or whether it is some sort of urban legend. Snopes does not mention this at all, so I thought that Wikipedia may. Also, I know some of the laws on these sites to be fact, so I know that they are not making everything on the list up.  I also know that many locals have never heard the true laws that are on the list for my state.  Jon Thompson 22:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, as I said, I've never heard of it, so I can't very well tell you how it could be interpreted as true. If it's an urban legend, it's not an urban legend around here. Also as I said above, I can't imagine why, or even how, slavery could have been an issue for local law rather than state. If you know how law in Alabama works at all, you'll know that practically any local issue of any significance has to be submitted to a statewide referendum and ratified as a constitutional amendment. Since I've already shown the constitution to be incompatible (and done a quick search through the amendments), this doesn't appear very likely. These look to be the kind of sites to which anyone can contribute their own crazy laws, without any real research or fact-checking. So I really do suspect that someone just made this up. In short, don't believe everything you read on the Internet. If you're that interested in it, why don't you e-mail the creators on these sites and ask them? —LonelyPilgrim 23:42, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Alabama Jubilee
The Alabama Jubilee Hot-Air Balloon Classic is *not* the oldest balloon race in the South. That designation would probably have to go to the balloon race that is held in conjunction with the Kentucky Derby, in Louisville, Ky. However, the Alabama Jubilee is indeed one of the oldest hot-air balloon races in the U.S. The 30th Jubilee will be held in 2007.

When they say "The South", they refer to everything south of (and including) Tennesse, North Carolina, and Arkansas. They also do not include Oklahoma, and most of Texas. Most people in this area where the event is held do not consider Kentucky part of the South. Especially as far north as Louisville.AlaGuy 21:24, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

 * 10-Aug-2007: (11 months later) I checked that Kentucky was also part of the Confederacy (with 2 rival governments), so it could be called "South" in the sense of the "War of Northern Aggression" (Civil War). I recommend stating, "south of Kentucky's Great Balloon Race (1973)" as a better phrase for all, so I will insert that, replacing "in the South" as previously stated.  This is in the spirit of Alabama as "The Heart of Dixie" for a well-mannered solution, as might have occurred in that southern civilization "gone with the wind" (original meaning).  -Wikid77 08:28, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

 * That seems a bit tedious to explain. How bout we just put "in the Deep South".  I think that works best.  AlaGuy (talk) 21:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Showing the area
10-August-2007: Many other city articles have been created in a massive push simply to convert demographic tables into town articles. That was the era of "Wordipedia" (2003-2005) when Wikipedia articles were mostly words. Since Decatur is a major city in the whole state, an Alabama roadmap has been added noting Decatur's location, along the Tennessee River, southwest of Huntsville, north of Birmingham, etc. The structure of the text allows the map to be wide, displayed mostly along the Table of Contents, as 310px width, which is a common size in other Alabama articles for rapid redisplay of the cached map-image. The map has been relabeled from the US National Atlas of the United States, as a reasonable sized reduction, of those enormous, slow, gargantuan Atlas PNG-format files that crash browsers with many windows open. As a reduced image, there is ample space to add other labels or major suburbs in the Decatur area, with the luxury to show the whole state, putting perspective on Decatur's northern location.

Roadmaps are generally very tedious to create, so Wikipedia had avoided them like the plague, instead using bizarre blank maps and tons of text to convey a "picture" of a town's place in the region. While the world websites have progressed now to showing video-clips, "Wordipedia un-illustrated" had become a friggin joke, but at least adding maps can vastly improve the value of WP articles, as a major illustration of a region. -Wikid77 06:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

water transportation
I was reading about the Delta IV Heavy and that Wikipedia article said that they were made in Decatur. "What?!?" I thought. I know enough geography to know (1)Decatur is in the far northern part of Alabama, and (2) there are no roads nor railroads big enough to transport these rockets. I came to this article and clicked on the "transportation" section and saw nothing to explain how they got these rockets to the space ports. Then I hunted for and found the part of this article about the rocket production facility which said they were shipped by water via the Tennessee River. That is a pretty important "Transportation" fact about Decatur.Nick Beeson (talk) 13:10, 30 September 2013 (UTC) The Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway makes it possible to travel from the state docks port of Decatur, Al. to the Gulf of Mexico via the Tennessee River.The Delta IV Rocket is loaded onto a specially built ship called the MV Delta Mariner designed to ferry the rockets from the Decatur facility all the way to the launch site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Decatur gold refiner (talk • contribs) 04:38, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

→ Also the Atlas V is produced in Decatur. I recently edited the section to show that there are other locations where Space Launch vehicles are produced. B787 300 (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

Busiest intersections
Is the "busiest intersections" section really necessary? Most people are not going to know those intersections' locations, the roads, and so on; who gives a damn? People seeking information on traffic are not going to turn to Wikipedia, anyways. Bmag32 (talk) 01:46, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

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2010 Census?
The Demographics section needs to be updated with 2010 Census data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.58.77.138 (talk) 20:40, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

 * 180,105 population in Huntsville in April 1, 2010 Census. 182,956 population in Huntsville in July 1, 2011 Estimate. --Rossdegenstein (talk) 21:33, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

This is notable
...BED INTRUDER SONG!

Well obviously, there is a RAPIST in wherever Antoine Dodson lives. Should the guy and his song be included on the list of notable people? Or should I just hide yo kids, hide yo wife? --70.106.138.58 (talk) 00:04, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Dodson is included on the List of people from Huntsville, Alabama. Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 01:29, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

I Corrected The Comedy Section...
I corrected the part that said Alright Bayou used to be known as Comedy Rush (It's hosted by a former host of Comedy Rush is more accurate), but I still think it should be reviewed for bias. It's not an all-inclusive list, there are no sources, and every one of the shows listed in the page has ties to one particular comedian, suggesting that comedian may have been the one to include them in the first place. Due to my personal bias, I'm not the best one to decide what to do with it, so if someone more objective could, that would be great.50.168.176.243 (talk) 16:02, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

 * Upon further inspection, the comedy section was added and exclusively maintained (except for the change I made today), by the webmaster for Huntsville Comedy, thus confirming my suspicion of bias. He's not the guy all the shows listed are tied to, but he administers the guy's website.  I do think a comedy section is important but, like I said, I'm biased myself, so I'm not the right person to diagnose which shows are notable and which are not, and clean the section up.50.168.176.243 (talk) 18:41, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

 * The text in the Comedy section seems fairly basic and not really promotional. I don't think it is a problem now, provided things do not get out of control. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:03, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

 * It seems the shows are now sourced, with their respective Facebook pages and own websites? Would you consider that out of control?  Aside from the self-promotional thing, I do recall some earlier cleaning due to Facebook pages not being valid sources.50.168.176.243 (talk) 18:51, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * By the way, I'm still biased. I'm a comedian in the area, so I obviously have a lot to gain from the promotion of shows in the area, so you probably want to have someone impartial look at it.50.168.176.243 (talk) 19:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, Facebook pages are not reliable sources. I've removed those and tagged the section for needing more sources. -Fnlayson (talk) 02:51, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Films Section...
In addition to the potential self promotion that should be looked at (mentioned in the section above), I think the films section is naked without including Tom And Huck, which was shot in and around Huntsville. Here's a source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112302/locations?ref_=tt_dt_dt 50.168.176.243 (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Status of Singing River Trail of North Alabama? Some sections are open but not officially named?
Anybody know when the Singing River Trail will start officially using its name?

Governors House Road (from Bob Wallace to Jordan Lane) is up and running. Protected bicycle lanes and everything. But that segment is not officially named yet. And because of that, some wiki editor is censoring content about it.

News articles, in case you don't know what I'm talking about: --Hsvbypass (talk) 23:59, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * waaytv.com article from Feb 2019
 * huntsvillebusinessjournal.com article from Dec 2019

"Nazi", not "German"
As I'm sure all know, not all Germans are Nazis. However, the scientists taken from Nazi Germany were, in fact, all Nazis. They all were members of the National Socialist Party of Germany during World War 2. This is unambiguous. Calling them German puts them on equal footing to modern-day German citizens, which is dishonest. Huntsville, Alabama's history was shaped, in small part, by Nazi immigrants. To paint over that and call them German is not only dishonest, it is unfair to the readers who will read this article. It's like calling Hitler a German. No, he was a Nazi. Not only that, he wasn't even ethnically German, he was Austrian. The same is true for von Braun. Von Braun was Polish. Not German.

Calling him German is incorrect on two counts. Do not edit the article to that incorrect state. RobotGoggles (talk) 23:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

 * I will draw your attention to the citation used in the article, titled "German Rocketeers in the Heart of Dixie: Making Sense of the Nazi Past during the Civil Rights Era."

 * The source itself uses Nazi and German interchangeably.

 * Since the word Nazi is more specific, it is more correct and therefore more encyclopedic. RobotGoggles (talk) 23:38, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

 * It might be more specific, but not all Germans were Nazis, so no, it's not always incorrect. Further, the title of the source calls the people "Germans", but the era "Nazi", so that's not interchangeable usage. Since this article has evidently referred to them as Germans for a long time, and your change has been challenged, per WP:BRD, it's up to you to get a consensus to change it, which hasn't happened yet. BilCat (talk) 05:19, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

 * No, not all Germans were Nazis, but the scientists who were brought to Huntsville were primarily brought because of their experience building rockets for the Nazis during World War II. And I don't have a source handy, but there was considerable debate when the Civic Center was named after Von Braun.  He was a Nazi and worked on rockets for the Nazis in World War II.  I don't know about all of the rest of the scientists.  In Germany at the time, people in some positions were required to join the Nazi party or they couldn't hold the position.  I expect that would have been true of all the scientist working on war weapons.  I don't think it's accurate to "clean-up" the past by failing to acknowledge that these scientists had worked for the Nazis.  RobinLampert (talk) 04:09, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 * Working for the Nazis is different than actually being a Nazi. I realize calling people "Nazis" when they aren't is politically in vogue right now, but unless we know for certain that all of these scientists were party members, we shouldn't do it in Wikipedia's voice. BilCat (talk) 04:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Outdated map
Is anyone able to update the map? Huntsville is now annexed into Morgan County as well, which isn't on the map. Thanks! --PixelRocket (talk) 02:11, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

Major changes for GAN
Hi everyone, I've made a number of big changes today to prepare it for a good article nomination. These include cleaning up citations, bringing the article back up to date, and shuffling some sections around (like moving the biotechnology section from history to economy). If you have any comments or suggestions, please reply to this or go to my talk page. Thanks!

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 * Just took a quick peek and can suggest one major thing: several long sections are just list of places/things; they need to be replaced with prose. Also, some paragraphs are still uncited.  Sounder Bruce  05:07, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your comments! --MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 13:18, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

New images in the infobox
Hi everyone. Having lived in Huntsville in the past, the images in the infobox montage seem odd to me; the Saturn V and First National Bank are most definitely iconic and I believe should stay there, but I also think we should consider replacing the other two images of the courthouse and Shelby Center. I believe that an image of Big Spring Park, like this, this, or this one would be much more fitting, as Big Spring Park is (in my opinion) more of a Huntsville icon than the courthouse/Shelby Center. As for the other image, an image of Lowe Mill (like this or this) or the Train Depot (like this) would be (again, in my opinion) more fitting for the article and capture some of Huntsville's most iconic sites more than the current images. Thoughts? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 18:15, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This picture looks good. Magnolia677 (talk) 19:41, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Comments and questions
1. In the "Civil War" section I read "The 4th Alabama Infantry Regiment" and "The Fourth Alabama Infantry".

Are they the same? If they are, why aren't they spelled the same way?

2. Under "Civil War" I read "During the first occupation" and right after that "In the initial occupation" which are repetitive.

3. "Huntsville has borders surrounding both the cities of Madison and Triana. Huntsville also borders the cities of Decatur, Athens, Owens Cross Roads, the town of Mooresville as well as the CDPs of Moores Mill, Meridianville, Laceys Spring, and Redstone Arsenal."

What the heck is "CDPs"?

3. Spoiler: for those of you who want to see the Space Shuttle Pathfinder at Space Camp, do not keep your hopes too high. I have been there in September of 2023 and the Pathfinder has been missing for at least 2 1/2 years so do not expect it to be back soon. If you are expecting to see the image used in the article you will be disappointed.

4. In the "Visual arts and festivals" section "HALMA" is mentioned. After that the text says "HAL". Is that the same? If it is, why isn't it spelled out as "HALMA"?

5. "The Tennessee Valley Raptors were an indoor football team established in 2000 and relocated to Rockford, Illinois in 2005.[193] The Alabama Hammers were an indoor football team established in 2010 and folded in 2016 due to the collapse of the league."

What's the correlation with Huntsville?

6. In the "Higher education" section the text mentions "STEM workforce".

What the heck is that?

7. "Huntsville is the 108th largest radio market in the United States."

How important is it to make this statement? I would understand if it were in the top 10.

8. "Until the mid-1950s, the L&N provided freight and passenger service to Guntersville and points South."

I do not follow the grammar or meaning of this sentence which needs to be revised.

9. "He also said: "Having that body cam there, having the police video there record what actually happens, and when people come in with complaints against Huntsville police officers, they get to see the action that actually happened.""

Who is "he"?

ICE77 (talk) 07:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Thank you very much for the ce and comments- I believe I've fixed them all in the prose now. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 14:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk, thank you for fixing/updating. ICE77 (talk) 06:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Notable Addition
After looking through the article I didn't see any mention of the vast amount of caves in Huntsville nor that Huntsville is the location for the NSS (National Speleological Society) headquarters. I believe Madison county has the highest concentration of individual cave systems in the nation. Are these wikiworthy facts? Nsherer (talk) 01:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Coordinates
Maybe this is wrong but i think the coordinates listed in the Geography section are incorrect? I think they are for Demopolis, Alabama instead of Huntsville. Sorry if this is wrong, I don’t want to be a bother 42 Xela (talk) 04:34, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

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"Madison is also home to 8 Dollar Generals. Some may think it is where Dollar Generals were started, however, it is not. These dollar generals are an eyesore, and many people boycott them due to this. This means there is a dollar generaly for rougly every 4 thousand people." - I don't even understand what this means, let alone its non-NPOV. Please justify, further explain, and conform this section with NPOV policies or remove.--Gregorof 02:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

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Tuskegee Experiment
Some mention of the Tuskegee experiment should be mentioned in the main page (besides just an external link), I think, as it is a prominent feature of the history of this city. This should probably be a single sentence in the end of the first paragraph. For most people, when you think of Tuskegee, you think of the Tuskegee experiment. --Beezer137 (talk) 06:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I was looking up the Tuskegee medical experiment but couldn't remember how it was usually referred to so I just looked up Tuskegee and found no reference to it at all. This seems really strange and probably should be corrected.  I imagine Tuskegee isn't all too proud of this history, but it is by far the most famous part of its history.  Please add several links to this page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.236.23 (talk) 13:30, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Dangling Sentence at the end of the "History" section
The sentence starts "By 1975, the hospital complex had". Was part of an excellent large edit by Parkwells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee,_Alabama#History — Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.93.132.100 (talk) 18:34, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

A need for the Tuskegee's Selective Buyers Campaign (Boycott) of 1957
Due to problems with achieving voting rights the Black population of Tuskegee rooted a Selective Buyers Campaign that lasted four years. This campaign was to act as a boycott against the white store owners of the county. During the first two years 26 white businesses closed down and created a large economic desperately. Showing the minority of whites in the Tuskegee the power that the Black population had in the their county. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vpower13 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

Tuskegee's Selective Buyers Campaign (Boycott) of 1957
The black residents of Tuskegee began their Selective Buyers Campaign due to the states legislature that passed a law gerrymandering the city boundaries of Tuskegee. This law prevented some 420 black voters from participating in local elections. Due to the financial independence of the black residents of Tuskegee they were able to set up Selective Buyers Campaign as a response to the gerrymandering. During the first two years 26 white businesses closed down and created a large economic desperately. This campaign continued for four years with a steady level of effectiveness. Though the campaign did not result in the end of the unjust gerrymandering it did show the lengths white residents would take to keep political power in their hands.

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 * Washington secretly provided funding to the NAACP for its legal defense of some highly visible civil rights cases, including supporting challenges to southern states' discriminatory constitutions and practices that disenfranchised African Americans.

His support of highly visible civil rights cases had nothing to do with the NAACP. It and DuBois were Washington's biggest critic.

 * Through the 1920s and 1930s, Washington worked with Julius Rosenwald and architects at the college to develop models for rural schools, to be used with Rosenwald's matching funds to gain construction of more rural schools for black children in the South.

Hard to do that when he died in 1915. I've made corrections. deisenbe (talk) 09:10, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

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Harvest Square entry
Somebody thinks it is appropriate to talk about a new shopping center called Harvest Square. I'm sorry, but in my opinion, a generic suburban shopping center is NOT significant enough for an encyclopedia entry. There is nothing unique about Publix, Domino's, and a Mexican restaurant coming to a suburb. I'm going to revert the edit again unless someone gives me a good reason why it should be included in the article. Huntsville89 (talk) 21:02, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I can state that I feel that it is good information. The article presently states: "Retail trade is rapidly expanding as of 2004. Service industries such as automotive repair and many others are growing rapidly. The area is a center of small businesses servicing a wide area".

This is generic enough to tell me nothing. THe point of the new shopping center is that Harvest is becoming a real town. People are moving to the area, and finally there are services to support. This is no longer the country now it is the suberbs. I feel the economy section should reflect this. 128.158.211.200 (talk) 11:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

There's a Publix in Meridianville. Moores Mill also has one. Do you see any mention of the store in those articles? Once again, there is nothing special about a Huntsville suburb having a Publix, a Redstone Federal Credit Union, and an Advance Auto Parts; it just sounds like local boosterism that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article. Now, if someone adds something that doesn't directly mention these stores, such as this, then there wouldn't be a conflict: "Retail trade is rapidly expanding as of 2008, with the construction of new stores and restaurants which coincide with continuing residential growth. The area's businesses serve a wide area, encompassing much of Northwest Madison County and Northeast Limestone County." Huntsville89 (talk) 01:11, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

I added your words. I have no interest in boosting the area. I've lived there several years, and those who live in the area find the above growth unexpected and surprising.

Update economy
The economy section is talking about home construction stats from 2003. Probably timer for an update. RJFJR (talk) 16:34, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

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The haunted house story is probably interesting for some but really is far too large for an article about the town. I would suggest a separate article. In any case it probably shouldn't be more that three or four sentences in this article.  Jody B talk 14:46, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

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City or Town?
To the person who keeps editing the page saying that New Hope is a "small town": While NH might look to you and me like a small town, the US Census Bureau officially classifies it as a "city." If you want to argue with that, talk to them. Otherwise, don't edit pages without some credibility other than your own opinion. Huntsville89 (talk) 21:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

it is such a small town you wouldnt know it if you drove through it, i know i drive through it everyday plus everyone is stupid —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.58.86.15 (talk) 02:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

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Public Image Integrity Question
I added a new picture that I took outside the base. The Mil Gov website states that Photography and access are limited or prohibited in marked areas. Drones are prohibited. If you spot suspicious behavior, contact the Police at 256-876-2222. Hand held devices are prohibited from use while operating a motor vehicle on Redstone Arsenal.

If that image is not prohibited, I could add it again. Thoughts? American Diabetio (talk) 16:20, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Textbox Solutions
I was having trouble adding the map to the Infoblox as well as when adding Lt. Gen. Chris Mohan there was a parminder that said something was wrong. Any fixes or guidance? American Diabetio (talk) 16:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

 * That's not enough specifics to help much. This article uses an infobox that's a template. See Template:Infobox military installation for details and info on how to use it, such as image2, caption2. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:46, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

History
The history in the first section would fit better in the "history section" where I originally placed it. I think it makes the article flow better. I'm open to either ideas but I think it looks out to place when its in the wrong section.

Happy Holidays! American Diabetio (talk) 01:59, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

 * The first section or Lead is supposed to summarize the body of the article and could be expanded more, not shorten. -Fnlayson (talk) 02:16, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand now.
 * Thx. :) American Diabetio (talk) 02:37, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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This statement is curious: "The Toney-Powhatan Tribe sacred burial ground circa 1800, is located on property developed by the Powhatan-Toney family within the Redstone Arsenal boundary." Is it a tribe or a family? Is it "Toney-Powhatan" or "Powhatan-Toney"? The same user also wrote the Powhatan-Toney article, titling it Powhatan Tribe. After discussion there's been a move and name change, but I'm wondering about notability here. -  Kathryn NicDhàna  ♫ ♦ ♫ 03:12, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

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It is obvious that the person who wrote this article did not bother to dive deeper into the original history of Demopolis, Alabama. The town was originally settled by the French colonist who were searching for a settlement that was further inland for protection from the hurricanes, exploring the river along with food sources, and good soil for growing food, along with timber for building homes, and soil that had a firmer foundation rather than the swampy marches of Florida and what is known as Mobile, AL. The town was originally called The Vine and Olive Company. Later, the name was changed to Demopolis. The Tombigbee and Black Warrior rivers meet on the northern edge of the town and known as the Tombigbee Black Warrior waterway. This water highway is a major water highway that empties into the Gulf of Mexico in Mobile, Alabama. The town is also known for 2 of the 13 famous "ghost" of Alabama. The town was always known to be "the Bible Belt"..along with being part of the Black Belt for it's rich soil. The town still basically shuts down on Sundays recognizing The Lord's Day of rest. As for the soil, "you plant it...it will grow" is the town's motto. People are very proud of the town and of the schools. The majority of the people work for one the 2 electric power companies, the paper mill, cement plant, or medical personnel. The rest of the locals farm, raise cattle, Settles Trucking Company, teachers, or local business owners. The town is very centered around religion, education, and sports. The people are friendly and the locals have a saying about their "coffeehouse/tables"...that is "their is always room for one more".

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Merged list into new article
I merged the section "Famous Demopolis people" into an article of its own: List of people from Demopolis, Alabama. This type of list in the article about Demopolis itself can quickly overwhelm the other content and is much easier to maintain as a list article of its own, and helpd the Demopolis article conform to Wikipedia's MOS. Altairisfartalk 20:53, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Expansion of history section
I've done an expansion of the history section, since the initial section I wrote on the colonization efforts by the French expatriates only covered the first decade. It's now up to the 1870's, but I will try to expand further as new reliable sources are found. So far, I've found very little on the period from 1875 through the modern era. Any help appreciated. Altairisfar (talk) 02:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

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Editing wars - pettiness
I am a citizen of Demopolis who has been trying to edit and update this article about my hometown that is so outdated it is rediculous. I have been asked by city officials to “clean up the city’s Wikipedia page” but it seems like an overzealous Wikipedia user refused to let me do that. He won’t let me edit and update the page (although I’m using proper citations to support all of my edits) yet he won’t update the page himself either. He seems content to let the city’s page sit with information, some of which is a decade inaccurate. For example, the page lists UWA as the managing partner of the Demopolis Higher Education Center when, in fact, it is Wallace Community College of Selma and has been since 2019. UWA’s partnership with the city ended in 2014 yet he wouldn’t know that because he doesn’t live here. It’s petty and ridiculous this behavior. Tristanmullen1999 (talk) 22:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid that you are not using "proper citations to support all of my edits". You added an external URL to Laird Cottege and to The West Alabama Watchman; we don't allow external URLs in the body. You added a bunch of content that is unsourced entirely. The only thing you sourced was the US 43 upgrade, but the study that you link to doesn't support the claim that "Preliminary talks have indicated that Alabama state officials support" the plan. You will have more success achieving your goal if you make individual edit requests here on this talk page: list the sentence to be changed, what it should say, and what the source is for the new information. Schazjmd   (talk)  22:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

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Residents in lead?
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 * This town was the birthplace of Hazel Lucille Parden (b. April 7,1921- d. August 13,2005) and her spouce Ernest Franklin Beverly (b. May 1,1921- d. December 9,1996 Alexander City,Alabama). Their burial occurred here nine years apart. They spent a lifetime in Hueytown near Bessemer.

Are Parden and Beverly notable? If so, shouldn't they be in a section other than the lead? Tlesher 02:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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Citizens
We may want to revisit the prominent citizens listed here. I'm not sure they are notable enough. Jody B  22:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

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Cool town name. Abeg92 23:59, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

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Article Super Outbreak states 23 as the number of dead in Guin after the tornado. This article states 30.-- Hús  ö  nd  03:53, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

 * I'll have to go back and dig through some family archives, but I believe 23 is the correct total. GeofFMorris 22:08, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks! Hús  ö  nd  22:25, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Death toll confirmed at 23. This storm formed at the MS/AL state line at 8:50 PM and devastated Guin,AL at 9:21PM. Mail from the town was found as far away as Huntsville,AL. This was the first time in history that a class F5 tornado had been sound recorded. This was accomplished by Alan Lindley using a cassette recorder as the killer approached his family's home. The recording was loaned to military/weather service for a time. As a memorial, the local radio station located in Winfield,AL played the recording on the anniversary of the disaster. It was as if it was happening afresh (both exciting and frightening).CaptKman1 (talk) 16:16, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

30 out of 2,300 is 1.3% ... 23 out of 2,300 1%. Definately not 11% of the population.

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911 rumor
Probably need to remove a "rumor." Of course if it's verified it can stay. Jody B  22:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

We might would need to remove it, if it was a rumor, but it is not. It is true, and if user:JodyB has problem with that, he needs to do some research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.120.22.59 (talk) 01:56, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

It is not a rumor. It is fact. A Non-Haleyville related source on the internet I have seen the red phone in person. Mbama7 (talk) 18:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Divorce
It seems essential to verify and provide attribution for the section on speedy divorces. Especially inasmuch as you name names. Jody B  22:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC) You must be a southerner,lol look at that last sentence Jody Bostick? Is that your name, lol? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.10.109.244 (talk) 19:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

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Election 2012
This year we elected Tracy Honea, who's son was is on this seasons Redneck Island on CMT on Saturday Night's at 8pm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.158.236.200 (talk) 11:14, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

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Albertville al. Was birthed by Cicero Miller a confederate. He named his town after his fatherinlaw it Albert. The F amily has done extensive￼geneaolo gly and background work. Thank you. 166.199.168.5 (talk) 18:58, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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Regina Benjamin
Dr. Benjamin is not from Bayou La Batre, although she set up a clinic there because she was required to spend a certain number of years serving a rural community in exchange for government financing of her medical education. Regina Benjamin is from Baldwin County and went to high school in Fairhope.

Either change the heading to say people who've lived in Bayou La Batre or else take her name off. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.217.246 (talk) 17:21, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

IPA pronunciation?
I lived the first 18 years of my life in Bayou La Batre, and I don't recall ever hearing "Bayou" pronounced [ˈbe.ju]. More like [ˈbaɪ.oʊ lə ˈbætʃ.ɹi] or [ˈbaɪ.u lə ˈbætʃ.ɹi]. (See pronunciations given in bayou article). In fact it sometimes sounds more like [ˈbaɪ.lə ˈbætʃ.ɹi] or [ˈba.lə ˈbætʃ.ɹi]. Unless somebody can defend the pronunciation current in the article, I'm planning on changing it. --Jeff robertson 00:49, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is the last syllable really chree, or is it just the sound of tree? kwami (talk) 21:31, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * At least in my speech, "tree" has a discernible "ch" sound in it. I can make myself say [tr], but the tendency to say [tʃr] is so strong that I would always do it in normal speech. --Jeff robertson (talk) 13:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, as long as that's automatic, and doesn't contrast with tree, we don't need to transcribe it. kwami (talk) 19:36, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Agree with the proposed change in pronunciation (assuming I understand the symbols correctly). Locals speaking to locals call the place By-la-ba-tree, ("y" as a long "I" sound, "a" as short "a" sound, light touch on the "t") all slurred together without a breath.(Doctorfun (talk) 17:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC))

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Is it a city or a town?
Bayou La Batre is a "city" according to its website. An editor in 2008 changed the text in the article to "town" with the explanation of "Perhaps a matter of semantics, but I don't believe a population of 2,500 residents should be referred to as a "city"."

I don't know if there is any legal difference in Alabama between a city and a town, but I think we should defer to what the community calls itself unless there is a reliable source that can substantiate something contrary. This is affecting where the article is categorized and where it appears in a navbox.

I propose changing the texts, categories, and navbox to show that this is a city and not a town. — Archer1234 (talk) 21:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
 * From the Wikipedia article on towns,

In Alabama, the legal use of the terms "town" and "city" is based on population. A municipality with a population of 2,000 or more is a city, while less than 2,000 is a town (Code of Alabama 1975, Section 11-40-6). For legislative purposes, municipalities are divided into eight classes based on population. Class 8 includes all towns, plus cities with populations of less than 6,000 (Code of Alabama 1975, Section 11-40-12).
 * — Archer1234 (talk) 16:15, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I changed the article to reflect that Bayou La Batre is a city and not a town. — Archer1234 (talk) 19:27, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

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