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Put Name as a subcategory under History
The "Name" section could be a small subcategory under History, or at least be more concise.

For the new name change, see: https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/interior-department-completes-vote-remove-derogatory-names-five-locations and https://geonarrative.usgs.gov/names_taskforce/ CityLightsAndMaps (talk) 21:51, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

 * Some settlements have a separate heading for their names, but it is usually called "Etymology" instead of "Name". RobotGoggles (talk) 05:02, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

Placename change
An IP made his edit reverting the placename throughout to Squaw Valley claiming it "unfair" and not voted on. The policy and practice at Wikipedia is for editors to boldly make changes, especially when one expects them to not be challenged. If such an edit is made the person reverting is expected to start a discussion. The IP has not done that, so I will.

The changing of placename involving "squaw" has been going on for a while and the consensus is already established to change these to match local and federal mandates. I have reverted the IP's edit on that basis. But if the IP wishes a survey (we do not vote, we survey), we can start one here. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Survey

 * I support the recent changes minimizing the use of "Squaw Valley" to a passing mention as a past name. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 19:52, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅ There's some overlap with the considerations in last year's debate about Olympic Valley. This community has a longer association with the name "Squaw Valley" than Olympic Valley, but without the marketing and world renown in sports, making this case more like any other unincorporated community that gets renamed officially at the state and federal level. While WP:COMMONNAME does generally prefer the most common name for a place, which might still be "Squaw Valley" for all I know, it allows us to make an exception when the most common name is "problematic" in some way and fall back to another common name. For an unincorporated community, any state and federal usage should probably weigh heavily in determining whether a name such as "Yokuts Valley" is common enough to serve as an article title. – Minh Nguyễn 💬 19:02, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

I think this change was premature. The official name is till S Valley. I think there's confusion here because the geographic valley has undergone an official name change, but the community has not. Crescent77 (talk) 18:14, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

 * @Crescent77: This is incorrect. The USBGN approved renaming the valley last September ("has voted on the final replacement names") and subsequently approved renaming the unincorporated populated place last month ("has voted on the remaining replacement names"). The two features underwent the renaming process in parallel. The CACGN's submissions to the USBGN regarding the valley and populated place are detailed in the January 2022 and August 2022 quarterly review lists, respectively. Minh Nguyễn 💬 06:55, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect Minh. As per your source, the name change of the community is not official, the name change of the geographic feature is. Crescent77 (talk) 03:42, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

 * @Crescent77: All I'm saying is that the "unincorporated populated place" (their words, not mine) has been officially renamed. If we need to split hairs between "unincorporated populated place" and "community", then this article is in the wrong categories. Minh Nguyễn 💬 04:57, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Once again, the name of the "unincorporated populated place" has not undergone an official name change. As per your sources, it is still under review.

Once again, I'm not concerned enough to "split hairs" and make the change, and instead wait until a change becomes official, but I do support anyone's willingness to edit for the sake of encyclopedic accuracy. Crescent77 (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

 * @Crescent77: The sources cited in the article categorically state that the review has taken place and the decision to approve the new names is now "immediately effective for federal use". Perhaps you overlooked the use of past tense in "The seven places for additional review included", as well as the title of this press release? In case there's any doubt regarding the change that took place, here are some additional sources:
 * GNIS, the federal government's official gazetteer
 * Local media coverage:
 * In a footnote, KFSN states that they will refer to the place as "Yokuts Valley" from now on in news and weather reports. Others are doing likewise without saying so.
 * National media coverage:
 * Supervisor Magsig's op-ed criticizing the official rename
 * In any case, the natural feature was renamed to "Yokuts Basin", not "Yokuts Valley". "Yokuts Valley" only refers to the populated place.
 * – Minh Nguyễn  💬 17:40, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * National media coverage:
 * Supervisor Magsig's op-ed criticizing the official rename
 * In any case, the natural feature was renamed to "Yokuts Basin", not "Yokuts Valley". "Yokuts Valley" only refers to the populated place.
 * – Minh Nguyễn  💬 17:40, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Supervisor Magsig's op-ed criticizing the official rename
 * In any case, the natural feature was renamed to "Yokuts Basin", not "Yokuts Valley". "Yokuts Valley" only refers to the populated place.
 * – Minh Nguyễn  💬 17:40, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Disambiguation
FYI, I moved this page from Yokuts Valley to Yokuts Valley, California. Even though there's only one notable Yokuts Valley in the whole wide world, the convention for U.S. geographical articles is to include the state in the article title, regardless of whether the name is unique, making exceptions for only a handful of major cities. This isn't an arbitrary guideline; it's based on a very strong written convention in American English. Minh Nguyễn 💬 19:13, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Incorrect information
Squaw Valley has not changed it's name to Yokuts Valley. This issue is still in dispute with the local authorities. Please remove Yokuts Valley from this article. You can confirm this with the office of Nathan Magsig in Fresno Ca. 96.67.217.74 (talk) 17:47, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

It does seem the name change here was premature. I believe the confusion stems from the fact that the Valley itself has undergone an official name change, but the CDP (the subject of this artice) has not yet. Crescent77 (talk) 18:11, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

 * The recent state law went further than the USBGN decisions around natural features, also directing counties to stop calling places by the old names and Caltrans to change road signs about them. But it is awkward that this article is about both the community and the CDP, which might have different names for the time being. Maybe the infobox, which is purely about the CDP, should be different than the article title? Minh Nguyễn  💬 20:43, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

The distinction between the community and CDP isn't that relevant here. The state law did direct a change, but it did not identify what that change would be to, as of yet. At this point, Yokuts is not official, nor is it WP:COMMON. It comes across as non-encylopedic to declare a name change that has yet to gain consensus among its own community / CDP nor declared law by higher authorities. I would expect the change to be official in the near future, but I think currently we are premature with the implementation.

That said, I personally wouldn't (and won't) bother making the change, as I do expect the situation to update soon, but I would support someone's effort to make the correction. Crescent77 (talk) 21:57, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

 * @Crescent77: As noted above, the community's name change is official with respect to federal agencies as of last month. The only reason I would hedge about the CDP is that the Census Bureau updates its demographic estimates and Boundary and Annexation Survey maps on a schedule, and this decision missed this year's maps by a month. Under the provisions in AB 2022, the CACGN was required to coordinate with other government agencies on getting signs and maps updated within 90 days of having approved the new name (which actually happened last March). However, you're right that Supervisor Magsig's office won't be legally prohibited from calling it by the old name until January 2025. Minh Nguyễn 💬 07:02, 9 February 2023 (UTC)

Once again, as per your sources, the name change of the geographic feature is official, the name change of the community is not. Crescent77 (talk) 03:43, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Oops
As for encyclopedic accuracy, some please tell Encyclopaedia Britannica ' s fact checkers that they still managed to mix up the Fresno and Placer county communities even after the name changes:

🤦♂

– Minh Nguyễn  💬 17:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTAFORUM We discuss this article here. An Encyclopaedia Britannica article is not handled from here. You go to https://corporate.britannica.com/contact to report errors to them. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 01:20, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
 * @Richard-of-Earth: That's fair. I mainly wanted to point this out to explain the additional hatnote in this article, which otherwise wouldn't be necessary. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Minh Nguyễn 💬 05:46, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

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I am curious about the history of the name "Orland." What is the history of this town and the origin of its name? Neither the City web page nor this entry has any mention of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.162.131.66 (talk) 15:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Willows?!
"Orland is located 16 miles (26 km) north of Willows."

Why would anyone write this? Willows is one of the most obscure places in California. If you don't know where Orland is (as many don't) there is absolutely no way you'd know where Willows is. Absolutely ridiculous! Compare relative distance to Sacramento, or at the very least, Chico (a somewhat obscure place but there is a university there). Willows? Really? Did someone who's stuck in Willows write this thing? The Mayor/Barber/Used Car Salesman of Willows? Gingermint (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh, and I really had to eliminate this sentence: "It has a few traveler services on I-5 at Highway 32, but not as many as Willows, Williams, or Corning." Not only is this unsubstantiated, not only is this a really crazy sentence (again with a Willows reference!) but is just a sort of a weird or stupid thing (I'm not sure) to say. Who wrote this? Gingermint (talk) 20:14, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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To answer some of the questions raised here, first let me introduce myself somewhat and provide a bit of a disclaimer. I'm a factory worker that works in Willows and lives in Orland, and I did not write any of the stuff about where I live and work that you've read here.

First, the name "Orland," from what I heard of the story, was a change from the name "Orlando." And as the story goes, the town had a "Spanish" name just like many places in California. For instance, many of the neighboring towns have names like "Chico," "Los Molinos", and an unincorporated area locally known as "Capay," but was originally "Capay Rancho" (an old Spanish land grant). And then there's the nearby "Sacramento River."

So, "Spanish" names are all over the place. But, sometime in the early part of the twentieth century, around 1905 maybe, the overwhelmingly white population of "Orlando" decided that they didn't like the "Spanish" sounding name of their town. It was a little too "Mexican-ish." And the political consensuses was that something had to be done about it.

So, they dropped the last "o" in "Orlando" and that's how we ended up with the name "Orland." It just sounded "better" that way.

I got this stuff from reading up on the subject in some articles I found in the local underfunded public library. And from talking with some of the old timers.

One final note on this subject. The population currently is becoming increasingly Hispanic. And, as the local "ese's" like to put it, "We're taking it back!" So, stay tuned. The name might get changed back to "Orlando."

As for the other comments regarding the obscurity of a place like Orland, all I can tell you is that it is a typical small town in America, and as such is a microcosm of the country as a whole. What was once a quiet little town with a sustainable economy where, as the locals were fond of saying, "Nothing ever happens in Orland;" we've now got all of the problems that the entire country has. If you come here and take a good look around, you will notice the poverty, the unemployment, the under-employment, the rundown infrastructure, the drug abuse and alcoholism, the gang violence; and, of course, the ignorance, arrogance, and apathy that go along with it. Yep, we're pretty much all a bunch of "Real Americans." Just check out how we vote.

And I don't guess things are going to improve much any time soon. JoedogShaydog (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

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SoSa
1. I have lived in the general area for 25+ years and have never heard of SoSa. I have never heard of South Samoa. 2. The community of Samoa is neither near nor adjacent to Arcata. Samoa is more than 9 miles from Arcata.

But SOSA is a neighborhood in Arcata.
1. I just moved here a few months ago, but I live in the neighborhood south of Samoa Boulevard, near a bunch of new businesses that refer to the neighborhood as SOSA. 2. The Wordpress Site for Upcycling center SCRAP http://scraphumboldt.wordpress.com/ refers to the neighborhood as SOSA. 2602:306:CF46:5340:39BB:176:780C:9FFD (talk) 15:37, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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NOTE: The census does not count students the way people might think. Dependent students, especially are often NOT counted while away at school. This means the population of Arcata may actually swell by at least several thousand during regular terms. Arcata may actually exceed 20,000 persons in late August or September, especially before students start dropping.

--al95521 06:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Minor theater claim.
The statement that the Minor theater is the oldest continuously operated theater is not true. My grandfather operated the Alto Freight and Express shipping company out of an unused Minor Theater for a period of time in the 1940s. The claim that it has been continuously operated cannot be substantiated because it is not true. It was a marketing ploy by the Minor Theater company. Odd that they made the claim some years back...had my family laughing. IF an editor wants to claim something that is a marketing ploy/propaganda then feel free. But please site one of the so-called sources you refer to. It might be best to consider a real publication (scholarly work) other than local chamber of commerce types of publications...and certainly not one of the Minor theater pamphlets. Again thanks, but please provide a reference to a text when you put this back as I am sure you will. Norcalal 12:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * "Aside from a few temporary closures, the Minor continued to operate continuously until 1960. It reopened in 1972 after major renovation by the Minor Theater Corp." ...This from an interview and article with the actual company printed in November 2000 in the highly respected Northcoast Journal http://www.northcoastjournal.com/012700/cover0127.html
 * As anyone can see the theater, having been closed and reopened in 1972, cannot possibly have the claim of the "longest continuously operted theater" that was placed here in the article. Again this is all about accuracy...right? Norcalal 12:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

 * Please cite a source for your assertion, Norcal. Wikipedia doesn't care so much that its true, so much as its sourceable. I'm not disputing what you say, and right now we have a source backing up the current wording, but if there are "local chamber of commerce" publications saying anything, they are quite firmly in play for the article. We are charged with not synthesizing our own arguments (like the argument that since the NCJ says this, therefore the Minor is not the oldest theater)-but simply repeating what others say.   Levi P. 08:22, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

 * You write, "Please cite a source?" The source is as I researched it...see http://www.northcoastjournal.com/012700/cover0127.html. IF anyone can provide a source that shows the theater is the longest continuously operated theater, then I guess we could say that incorrect or erroneous source exists. Nevertheless, my mother reported to a dark, CLOSED theater after school in the late 1940's to assist her father with his freight and express company. There is the letter of a rule and the spirit of a rule. In this case the letter of a rule you cite would lead to the public being misinformed. Can we ALL move on to developing the article in the areas that are woefully absent? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Norcalal (talk • contribs) 19:55, April 19, 2007

Recent extensive additions by anonymous editors
There are many wiki procedures and standards for article development that are not present in the style of many recent additions. These additions may not improve the quality of an article if done in "travel guide" style. These types of comments are often the outlet for people who feel they have something to say, but do not enrich the encyclopedia. Informal and flippant remarks may be witty ( I know I like some of them), but are not appropriate in a wiki city article. IF anonymous users would develop a log name and use it, there could be back and forth on these issues that could lead to an overall improved article. Many pieces of information provided by anonymous editors are interesting and may lead to better coverage in the article. However, there is also an effort to improve citations and that does not seem to be occurring. Can we work together? And can we follow at least some of the protocols? Thanks Norcalal 17:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Unique cultural attributes
This entire section should be rewritten or deleted. It reads like Lonely Planet. The writer obviously loves Arcata, and that's the problem with the entry. Wlegro 05:00, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Folks I would encourage these types of writing styles be expressed at Humbolpedia.org the Humboldt specific wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.180.38.46 (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Stalinists Strike
It seems the same censures that ripped pot filled headlines from the racks stole again. The attraction of the Arcata Community Forrest proved to strong for camping hippies around the world. In an underhanded move, the Arcata Stalinists have pulled the forest postings from Wikipedia's Arcata page. Lets hope some of you stoners notice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.151.135 (talk) 10:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

first ban on GMO claim
http://www.healthyworld.org/GdGMOs.html http://calag.ucop.edu/0501JFM/scibriefs.html http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2008/04/12/18492388.php

There are some conflicting references. Is it the Mendocino or Arcata being first, in Canada or in US? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.170.138.209 (talk) 00:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Floods of 1964
The article fails to mention the devastating floods in the winter of 1964-65, when roads, parts of Highway 101, and many houses were washed away. Gov. Pat Brown had the area declared a disaster.--jeanne (talk) 10:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Though affected indirectly by this disaster and the torrential rainfall, there were no bridges lost, no rivers overflowed into the town, and no homes were lost in the City of Arcata. Clearly, this would need to be addressed in an expanded article on Humboldt County. Norcalal 15:56, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Dubious
The following statement appears to be dubious, and uncited, or maybe Original Research. The political leanings of Arcata are diverse. The article clearly shows a political left leaning POV in its editing of this section Arcata, California, so it would be more approriate to define what constitutes diverse in this statement, and citations to back that definition or the claim that the politics of this city are "diverse". --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 11:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Marijuana
I feel that someone more knowledgeable on the subject should add more info to the article about the impact of marijuana on the culture and economy of Arcata. I lived there for most of my life and can attest to the prevalence of weed to the well being of Arcata. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.182.178.89 (talk) 20:07, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Form of Government
Arcata, CA is council-manager form, not mayor-council form. See the municipal code at http://www.codepublishing.com/ca/arcata/. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adminprof (talk • contribs) 18:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Wastewater Issues
I am not sure why the line "The EPA discloses that for 9 of the past 12 quarterly reports (January 2005-December 2007), the Arcata Wastewater Treatment Plant was found to be in violation of discharge permit limits" is relevant. Aracata does not appear to have an especially high number of quarters out of compliance in comparison to other california cities of similar size and climate. I used this website (found eventually through the link provided in the statement: http://www.epa-echo.gov/echo/compliance_report.html) to determine that Arcata had the second lowest number of the five cities I looked at (Ukiah: 7, Arcata: 9, Eureka: 10, Santa Cruz: 12, Petaluma: 12). As far as I can tell the only reason this statement is in here (and sourced) is because the City of Arcata is actually concerned about it's violations and reports them upfront and with great detail and clarity on it's treatment website. --Metatree (talk) 20:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
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drugs
Arcata -

Marijuana prices plunge

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95534 and 95503 zip
Cutten is an adjacent unincorporated community tied in every way to its larger neighbor, the City of Eureka, thus it is part of Greater Eureka, which the US Census defines as the Eureka Urban Cluster. EVERY address of all 3,000 plus residents and businesses has BOTH a Eureka, Ca street address and a Eureka-specific phone number. The Cutten Post Office is a very small one-person PO for the convenience of area residents who do not want to travel to the Main Greater Eureka Post Office (down off busy Broadway- miles away). The PO at Cutten has its own zip - 95534, just as all Post Offices do. Even the main PO downtown ( or rather off Broadway) has its own zip (95502) unrelated to physical property addresses.ALL post offices have a distinct PO zip separate from the zips used for the physical areas served. In the case of Eureka, ALL Greater Eureka area addresses have the 95501 and 95503 (and others- but that's too complicated for the Cutten issue). Pull up a Zip Code map of the region through a real estate search ( those are easy to find) and it's easy to see that ALL Cutten physical addresses ARE in the 95503 zip ( years ago it was 95501, then a split happened to make life easier at the Main Eureka PO). However, long ago planners included Cutten within the larger context of Eureka, so the little Cutten PO was not expanded. In an age of consolidation, the Cutten PO will likely never see expansion, and may cease to exist, therefore NO specific ADDITIONAL Cutten zip will be created. HB Fire, the consolidated fire suppression resources for the City ("proper" of Eureka) and the old Humboldt Fire District #1 (serving the unincorporated CDPs and neighborhoods surrounding Eureka "proper," all of which are part of Greater Eureka) were consolidated around 2011 as an administrative cost-cutting measure to serve all 50,000 to 55,000 residents of the Greater Eureka Area. The documents related to this consolidation list Cutten prominently (however, I'm looking for the "best" source to cite in the article, so please be patient). In any case, the residents of Cutten and all Cutten institutions, such as the only major grocery store, Cutten Elementary School, and Winship Jr High School ( also part of Eureka City Schools) are ALL physically LOCATED in the Cutten CDP, BUT ALL have Eureka addresses and Eureka phone numbers. Btw, the US Census defines Greater Eureka ( an official local government term) as the Eureka Urban Cluster (UC). I hope this begins to clear this up. However part of the difficulty here is a complex, often messy relationship between the City of Eureka and it's unincorporated, adjacent and nearby CDPs and neighborhoods...but that is a very long "story" for another time and place. The facts above are facts...some require digging, but the zip code issue requires one Google search of zip code maps, and this issue goes away (until the next time it comes up somewhere else!). :-) Norcalal (talk)

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"According to the United States Census Bureau, the city has a total area of 1.0 square miles (2.7 km²), all of it land. [edit] Demographics

As of the census[7] of 2000, there were 1,382 people, 611 households, and 392 families residing in the city. The population density was 1,343.2 people per square mile (518.1/km²)"
 * so an area of one square mile, 1382 people in it, working the math we have ?1346.2 people per square mile? 98.148.182.33 (talk) 06:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Sitka Spruce in Ferndale
Recently, an anonymous editor has repeatedly reverted a small comment about the presence of Sitka spruce in Ferndale. I spent some time this morning and have changed the single mention of its presence to the following:

... Local microclimates are varied and support tropical palm trees[1] and Sitka spruce,[2] including a mature Sitka forest in Russ Park,[3][4] and the over 150 feet (46 m) tall spruce lighted every year for Christmas.[5]

 * 1 Corwin, Diane (2011). "Palm Tree Toupee". Sense of Place. National Geographic. Retrieved 01 October 2011.
 * 2 "Ferndale Series". Soil Series of California. United States Department of Agriculture. Retrieved 01 October 2011.
 * 3 Sawyer, J.O.; T. Keeler-Wolf (1995). A Manual of California Vegetation. Sacramento, California: California Native Plant Society. p. 471.
 * 4 "Russ Park". California's Redwood Coast. Humboldt County Convention & Visitors Bureau. Retrieved 01 October 2011.
 * 5 Hasslinger, Tom (January 9, 2011). "Tall tree tale". Coeur d’Alene Press. Retrieved 01 October 2011.

I realize it may be unlikely that this anonymous editor will read the discussion page. He or she seems to be someone making mostly personal knowledge edits. No citations have been left for any edit by this IP. I request, however if indeed this person reads this section, to please enter into discussion about the pages before cutting out chunks with no explanation and no citations. Otherwise it begins to look like a pattern of disruptive editing. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:06, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Points of Interest
I removed "The 1891 Eastlake-Stick Style Russ-Williams Bank Building (currently the Victorian Inn), corner of Ocean and Main, was designed by noted architect J. Frost, with a millinery store, a haberdashery and the Ferndale Enterprise newspaper on the ground floor, as well as business and professional offices on the upper floors." from the article because it is only one building in the historic district. It might make a nice photo caption. Ellin Beltz (talk) 02:56, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Weather Chart Reverted
I reverted a massive edit to the weather and climate chart today because while the new chart had much prettier colors, the new weather data was incorrect. The record highs/lows and the rainfall numbers are completely different (highest high is 11 degrees F higher than the record, etc.) than they were before and the source does not back up the new figures. I also see no reason to take out the Ferndale climate chart as that information is not provided visually after the edit. Photo attached for comparison of the chart I removed and the version to which I reverted. Ellin Beltz (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Subsequently I converted the old climate charts to the newer format and colors, but retained the correct data. Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:14, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I like what you did with the climate charts. However, the text in the climate section contained the following statement, which I just removed: "The average yearly temperature is 46.0 °F (7.8 °C): January is the coldest month; July is the warmest.". All of these statements are contradicted by the climate chart: According to the chart the warmest month is August (average high 72F, average low 50F), the coolest month is December (average high 56F, average low 39F) and therefore the average yearly temperature cannot possibly be 46.0 F (this is slightly below the average temperature of the coldest month of the year, December). The source cited (Weatherbase) does indeed make these claims, but also contradicts itself by offering a climate chart in line with that shown here. Weatherbase also says the coldest month (January) averages 26.4 F, which is ludicrous. I know the area well, and can confidently say that the temperature in Ferndale might drop that low once per year, if that.

In fact, would anyone be upset if I removed the link to Ref. 37 (since it contradicts itself) and find a better source? Perhaps this one, even though it's only based on 10 years of data? WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 02:56, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching this. Yes, I've deleted the climate chart altogether.  Typically NOAA does not offer climate stats for a town with just 10 years of data .... there's no reason we can't, but I don't feel obligated to spend the time typing it out when the true data is so clearly similar to that of nearby Eureka, California which has a much longer period of record.

 * Weatherbase is a commercial site whose only interest is to generate ad revenue, and as such, they pay little attention to whether their data is accurate or even if it makes sense. As above, the climate chart on Weatherbase had a number of red flags even in 2012, such as having an average temperature of 26F in January, and it is considerably worse today, such that I don't think I've ever seen one this bad before.

 * If anyone wants to add proper data for this town, please use the Desert Research Institute linked above, or another source that presents reliable data. But again, for a station with such a short period of record, I honestly think it's better off without a chart.

 * Best regards,
 * — Soap — 20:14, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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Conflict of Interest Editing
There have been many edits by someone who is on the board at Ferndale Museum (see discussion on Ferndale Museum page) who has done a lot of "buffing up and building up" without citation. Elsewhere, citations have been changed from the actual editor (Beverly Carlsen) to an editor of the second edition (Wendy Lestina) in many cases. While Wendy might have proofread the text from first edition to second edition, she in no way did enough work to have B. Carlsen changed to W. Lestina. This looks to me like more Ferndale Museum politics spilling out into Wikipedia.

The worst ones are where the original citation says A, B, C - but this editor inserts other statements thus A, B, Q, R, Z, C (citation).

These are incredibly difficult to root out and several taken off the Ferndale Museum page have been utterly without merit.

I will be fact checking this page and removing a lot of aggrandizing elements. I would request that the editor with the conflict of interest cease doing this to local pages. I have no idea how many hours of work it will be to restore all these pages.

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I will answer my own question. It took two hours to restore the citations and remove extra and non-notable information. It is likely there are still problems with the page, but I have restored the citations to the Carlson book. I removed about 30 repeated citations, you can use the format to show page number - it is not necessary to cite the same book over and over again. Cheers! Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:13, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

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This page needs corrections to meet the Wikipedia guidelines. Specifically, there are many grammatical, syntactical and spelling errors that need to be corrected. 216.231.36.191 (talk) 19:21, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

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Someone is cleansing this site of truthful information regarding the City of Fortuna. I added factual and fully cited information regarding the very conservative nature of this city's dominant political culture, and someone completely deleted it. Deleting information that is truthful but that may not cast a rosy light is censorship, and is not in the spirit of Wikipedia. Someone should do something about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.111.26.233 (talk) 03:56, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Axes to grind, Points of View (POV) issues, and grandstanding are not part of an encyclopedia. The citation to the previously removed commentary most certainly did not support any of the tone and much of the content of the material that had been added. That is precisely why it was removed. Norcalal 17:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Neutrality of "Culture" section
Much of the "Culture" section appears to be written by a party with an interest in promoting the town. While talking about some of the festivals is just fine, the light in which they're presented seems to have been taken right out of a travel brochure. Adding day-to-day cultural information would help this section, as would cleaning up the somewhat-biased tone.

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 * Re-wrote the section today to remove the non-neutral point of view. I was not the original writer.  Please sign your posts with four Tildes so we know how to get ahold of you !! Ellin Beltz (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Nicknames need citations too!
Reverted an edit today that put an unknown nickname on the mainpage. I searched and was unable to find any uses of "Jewel of the North Coast" for Fortuna, in fact, that's Mendocino. "If you have more than one day to ride I guarantee you'll enjoy a stopover in Mendocino, "the Jewel of the North Coast." The sea surrounds Mendocino on three sides and the fourth is walled with dense pines. If you don't see it from a distance, you could ride by without even realizing what treasure lies near." Verifiable and cited information only for the project please folks. Ellin Beltz (talk) 02:56, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

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Let's just accept that the area is known as "Pine Hill."
No one can be totally comfortable with everything. But one thing is for sure, regardless of the census name error, this area is known by the singular version of the name. Pine Hill is just Pine Hill, no matter how you slice it. Pluralizing this name is an error. Norcalal 03:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I do not really care how the article is named, but wrongly or rightly, the U.S. Census still calls it "Pine Hills", so I think this name still should be mentioned in the lead section as a reference because people still use the census statistics as an official source. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 08:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The article's about a census-designated place: CDPs can be wrongly named (see Lisco, Nebraska), but the standard is to name CDPs as they're actually named. Nyttend (talk) 03:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Using the Lisco, Nebraska exactly, I have redirected this article back to the correct article name with the incorrect, official CDP name in bold at the beginning. Thank you for bringing clarity to this issue, but as you can see you did not follow your own example. As a sidenote, I realize my original research would have no value here, but I can tell you as a 6th generation Humboldter that there is no one who would make the error of referring to this community in the plural form. I had a few issues (because the wrong name is so counter-intuitive) getting this similar to the example given, but it is correct and, most importantly, there is a citation from the local authority, The County of Humboldt. It makes sense to have it correct, but to respect the official CDP designated name (if incorrectly) within the correctly named article. Norcalal 05:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * As I said, I do not care what it is named. But as per Wikipedia's policies, please do not do a "cut and paste move" because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Therefore, you may want to post something on Requested moves to seek comments of others. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 06:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is it that editor Nyttend cites the Lisco, Nebraska article as the example to follow, then reverts my move without following the example. Citation opportunities abound illustrating the real name of the community as Pine Hill, California at The County of Humboldt Official Website. There are tens of references, official and otherwise in the local newspaper and government sites. However, many non-local real estate type websites (often called relocation sites) use the incorrect name, as does Google maps and other non-local entities. Should not the County of Humboldt be the authority on this matter? (Let alone the fact that every person in the region knows the area by the singular name). In any case, the reality remains that Pine Hills is a name constructed in error by the US Census. The example given for Lisco, Nebraska provides a good compromise, using the incorrect CDP name in bold within the text, but the correct community name AS the name of the article. Please discuss. Norcalal 06:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. JPG-GR (talk) 16:07, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

Pine Hills, California → Pine Hill, California — See previous posts here. The article (the name for the community) is in error due to the CDP mistaken plural name for the community. The example for these issues is Lisco, Nebraska. The format is clear enough. Why not follow it? — Norcalal 06:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Survey

 * Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with  or  , then sign your comment with  . Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

 * Support. There seems consensus above that the singular version is the common name. I don't see what the problem is in mentioning and bolding the CDP name in the lead, in fact following the proposed move conformity to WP:MOS will require it IMO, to provide a target for the resulting redirect. Andrewa (talk) 09:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose Contrary to what is stated, locals are not the authorities on what to call a census-designated place, and we really need overwhelming proof to demonstrate that the Census Bureau made an error — after all, the Census Bureau is the definitive source for demographics etc., on which the entire federal government depends for issues as important as the apportionment of Congress, as well as for tons of lesser tasks. Moreover, see |b=40|l=en|t=1110|zf=0.0|ms=ref_stat_90dec|dw=3.5537487849846974|dh=2.0193100479566697|dt=gov.census.aff.domain.map.EnglishMapExtent|if=gif|cx=-123.98822234629979|cy=40.72794880323966|zl=7|pz=7|bo=593:591:590:600:596:594|bl=438:437:436:435:443:474|ft=416:470:469:413:412:431:430|fl=450:461:449:460:489:484:462|g=01000US&-PANEL_ID=rm_result&-_pageY=425&-_lang=en&-_pageX=414&-_mapY=215&-_mapX=247&-_latitude=&-_pan=&-ds_name=DEC_1990_STF1_&-_longitude=&-_changeMap=ZoomIn this page, a map from the 1990 census (to see the context, go to this link, click "Reference maps" and zoom in progressively) — if this were such a problem, why would it not have been reported to the Census Bureau before 2000; as noted in the Census Bureau's CDP description, CDPs are typically named/bounded in coöperation with local officials, so surely a complaint about the name would lead to a new spelling.  Moreover, you find Google's usage problematic because it's not local, as (I assume) you do the Census Bureau — remember that local data comes from local people, so it's not like Google headquarters and the Census Bureau offices order that the place be called this just because they feel like it. "PHs" is also recognised as a populated place by the USGS.  I definitely don't think it right to omit notes about sheriff, county supervisors, etc. calling it "PH", but without overwhelming evidence as we have for Lisco (after all, with Lisco we even have the CCD around the community being called Lisco), we shouldn't presume that we should reject the Census Bureau's designation for this census-designated place.  Nyttend (talk) 12:36, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * PH has never been called anything else. In six generations of my family owning land there, the name has never been plural. You like the federal reference, but it is in error as are you. If you say the federal reference is so vital to apportionment or highway funds or whatever, would not the local school district have gotten the plural name? Or any of the several churches? And yet, not one of those entities has. Norcalal 16:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
 * If this were an article about the area as a cultural entity, I'd be inclined to support this request as common usage. However, the article explicitly states that its scope is the census-designated place, and as such, I don't find the current title to be incorrect. Oppose, unless the article is rewritten so that it is about the place itself, and not "the federal reference". Dekimasu よ! 02:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Support if the article is written as the area on the edge of Eureka that is known as Pine Hill. Since "Pine Hills" is only a census construct, that will have to be made clear. Any definition of Pine Hill that includes areas like Westgate and Ridgewood are most definitely constructs that no one outside statisticians at the Census would consider as having any basis in reality beyond demographics. Norcalal 15:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Any additional comments:

Has anyone noticed that the area named Pine Hill as shown in the Humboldt County Neighborhoods/Urban Limit Line and Pine Hill Zoning is not the same area described by the Pine Hills CDP? The Pine Hill neighborhood is north of Herrick Ave while the Pine Hills CDP is to the south. The Pine Hill neighborhood appears to be more closely approximated by the Bayview CDP. The GNIS also has separate entries for both singular and plural forms with a similar difference in placement. and. The location of the is closely aligned with the Pine Hills populated place. The GNIS citation for Pine Hill is Collected during Phase I data compilation (1976-1981) while the citation for Pine Hills is Census County/Townships, CDP's and incorporated cities - Bureau of Census, Geography Division, coordinates are located at the centroid. There is a GNIS record for  from the Phase I data compilation which appears to be located at the northwest corner of both the Bayview CDP and the Pine Hill neighborhood plan.

The place is listed under "Pine Hill" in California's Geographic Names by David L. Durham, where it is described as ''district, 2.5 miles south of downtown Eureka (40.76528°N, -124.17222°W, near NE cor. sec. 3 T 4 N, R 1 W) Named on Eureka (1958) 7.5' quadrangle. The place was also called East Sunnyside and Tigerville, as well as Pine's Hill for Safford E. Pine, who had a dairy farm there.'' The USGS topographical map shows the summit of Pine Hill at the described location, or near the northeast corner of the intersection of Higgins St. and Union St.

I don't share the apparent faith that other have in the inerrancy of the U.S. Census Bureau, especially as regards the naming of CDPs. CDPs are nothing more than statistical abstractions that for convenience sometimes share the name of nearby features or neighborhoods. CDPs are not in any way official definitions of a locality. However, we need to be careful not to misrepresent the CDP data as representing something other than a relatively arbitrary assemblage of statistical data. That is, just because a CDP happens to have the same or a similar name as a nearby place name, they are not necessarily synonymous. In this particular case, I would not move the CDP article unless it can be positively determined that the Pine Hill place name has actually been subsumed by area defined by the CDP. That is, the statistics in the article are for the area defined by the CDP -- which may or may not actually correspond to the local place name of Pine Hill. older ≠ wiser 16:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

East Sunnyside and Tigerville are names lost to the local scene. Interesting you would mention Higgins and Union, as that would be very near the high point of the hill and the main intersection at which point Union Street is a direct shot north to the city limits of Eureka located. The area of PH does mostly spread from that intersection toward the south (and east and west). In Census data from 1981, they list the area with the correct name as Pine Hill along with two other later listings for "Pine Hills." in a slightly different place (by coordinates - http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnispublic/f?p=108:2:2656074553574109::NO:::). Why the other two census community listings would refer to "Fields Landing" -see link above- is odd as that town is located to the south and west over by the bay - miles from Pine Hill). Perhaps this IS a construct of the Census, based in their need to group data, but with little or just "passing" respect for the community there (or near there?). If that is the case, I will construct a different article to include for Humboldt County related articles and bypass this weird Federal creation. The situation is so troublesome in relation to the local suburban neighborhood known as Pine Hill, that it demands resolution. Thank you to anyone who contributes...it has already been a valuable learning opportunity. Pine Hill is a very specific spot. There are others that are not. Norcalal 17:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

The coordinates provided in the article give the location of Pine Hills as existing in a place known as Westgate. This place is about 1.5 miles south southeast of Pine Hill. There is something very wrong here...unless it is a fabricated CDP with no real regard for Pine Hill. There is still a need to explore further. How do we determine if the coordinates listed in the article are exactly the same as the Census has for the CDP? Norcalal 21:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

 * The coordinates are from the GNIS record for the CDP, which as far as I'm aware directly correlates to the data used by the Census Bureau. This difference is precisely why I raised the question in the first place. older ≠ wiser 02:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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To what extent is the Census Bureau the final arbiter of place names, even for CDPs? See Talk:Lisco, Nebraska for a similar issue which was IMO far simpler.

Note also that the resolution in the case of Lisco/Cisco was quite simple... I asked the Census Bureau, who readily admitted their mistake. Andrewa (talk) 19:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

 * When it comes to incorporated municipalities and other governmental entities with defined boundaries, I think the Census can be taken as reasonably authoritative. CDPs however, are an invention of the Census Bureau and I wouldn't trust the Census as authoritative for anything other than the data reported for the statistical entity (which may happen to share a name with an actual nearby feature or community). older ≠ wiser 23:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

 * In the cases of Lisco/Cisco and Pine Hill/Hills, it's more than sharing a name... the CDP is an attempt by the Census Bureau to unambiguously identify a community. I'd argue that in such cases the community is prima facie more notable than the associated CDP, so that assuming there's only one article covering both, the article should be primarily about the community. This remains true even if the article is a stub with no content other than the census data, and not withstanding that it's a member of a category of CDPs. Do you see where I'm leading? Andrewa (talk) 23:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

 * PS and I sense that the US Census Bureau is of the same high standard of professionalism of the Australian Bureau of Statistics, who conduct the census in Australia. Part of this professionalism is being realistic about the accuracy of their data. Years ago I was one of the low-level workers in a census, and part of our briefing went There are 10,000 of you, so if you each miss one house, we'll end up 40,000 people out. Andrewa (talk) 23:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

 * I think I agree, although I'm not quite certain about your statement that the CDP is an attempt by the Census Bureau to unambiguously identify a community. Perhaps so in Lisco/Cisco, it is less clear in Pine Hill/Pine Hills. I may have missed it in earlier discussion, but I don't think there is yet any evidence that is not derived from Census data of a community named "Pine Hills". And considering that the mapped area of the CDP is at such variance with the Pine Hill neighborhood (which is actually included within the Bayview CDP), I think the similarity of the Pine Hills CDP with the nearby Pine Hill neighborhood may be little more than an unfortunately confusing coincidence. Some CDPs are defined simply to capture demographic data for an otherwise unincorporated populated area that may not have any identity as a separate community of any sort. older ≠ wiser 12:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Several times recently, an anonymous editor has added a notable person to the list, Axel Lindgren II. Mr. Lindgren was one of the descendents of the first residents of Trinidad and was instrumental in keeping the original culture alive. Unfortunately, I cannot find reliable secondary sources for his notability. He was honored in the name of a local beach and a local trail and members of his family still serves on the board of directors of the Trinidad Museum. I think there probably is a lot of material but it isn't online, it will take more digging to find. Then I think an article could be written and then he could be added to this page. Wikiproject guidelines say that a person has to have a page first, then be added to the location notables. Ellin Beltz (talk) 19:12, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

The Eureka Times-Standard published a feature on Lindgren: http://klamathbucketbrigade.org/Times-Standard_AxelLindgreniscarryingonhisfather%27slegacy031506.htm. He is listed as a cast member in the comedy Almost Heroes, IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119053/?ref_=nmbio_mbio The film was shot partly in Trinidad. Alas, Ron Givens in the N.Y. Daily news, exemplifies the critical reaction: "There's a difference between a stupid movie and a movie populated by stupid characters, and director Christopher Guest shows that distinction with Almost Heroes." On and off in the 1980s and '90s, I would see Lindgren at work on the dugout canoe he was building near the town center, using traditional tools and materials, as a piece of living history. I'm not a legit citation, of course...Jim Stinson (talk) 21:13, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Pop culture section
I have created a Pop culture section, and moved the filming of a scene in the movie "The Majestic" into it. It just didn't seem historically significant compared to the other events in the History section, yet deserves to be mentioned. 1980fast (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Thomas Pynchon
Thomas Pynchon, included in the article's list of notable residents, has no reference to Trinidad in his own Wikipedia entry. The list as a whole seems to have no citations. Is this a "George Washington slept here" type fiction?Jim Stinson (talk) 20:55, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Good question! I Googled "Thomas Pynchon Trinidad", found a source, and cited it.  I don't know how reliable the source is, but with a citation readers can dig deeper and decide for themselves.  Best regards,—Stepheng3 (talk) 21:16, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * Calexico is called the "Detroit of California", in part of the large poverty rate, civic council corruption and a decline in the standard of living in the 2000's recession. Calexico isn't urban like Detroit nor its' neighbor Mexicali, it is also a border town (Detroit is with Canada with another auto factory city Windsor, Ontario) and a strong Democratic party following in Calexico with the rest of Imperial County, the state of California when the Obama administration was thought to be really "bad" for blacks or Latinos. There's a striking parallel here about Calexico, Detroit and some would say, Oakland Cal. which is comparably more black than Latino and more prosperous by San Francisco not Calexico. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 23:39, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Calixico
I'm fairly reliably informed that Kijima Takashi was born in Calixico [note the spelling], Calif. I'm more reliably informed that he was born in a place that, when pronounced in Japanese, has an "i" rather than an "e" sound as its second vowel (even though Japanese has no trouble with "e"). I can't find any place called "Calixico"; is it perhaps a variant of "Calexico"? -- Hoary 00:40, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * PS Calexico after all. -- Hoary (talk) 07:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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Isn't the majoe employer here the State Prison? This should be mentioned, if I am correct. Also, its proxmity to tha Salton Sea might be worth a mention.--24.126.240.60 01:04, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

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Near Phoenix????????
Really????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.68.94.86 (talk) 10:42, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

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 * I believe the anon IP referred to the El Centro Naval Air Station (the Carrizo Desert Impact Area), the decommissioned Salton Sea Naval Base (rumors of nuclear tests in the 1960's) and way to the north is the Chocolate Mountains Aerial Gunnery Range are examples of secret government weaponry programs. The editor could be more precise and said it in easier terms on where exactly is the testing ground sites, but here are the areas known to perform them. + 71.102.53.48 (talk) 23:01, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Rudy Seanez plays for the Philadelphia Phillies...
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Barbara Worth
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 * Ron Kloth (Author)(President of Papago Brewing)
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 * Someone has added them again, but hasn't made any more effort to show that these people are at all notable. I concur with Justfred's concerns, and I've removed the redlinked people again.  I left the football player, for whom there is an article. Mimetic Polyalloy (talk) 20:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

 * It may be noted that the person who added the links,, has contributed only edits that might be felt to be promotional. Mimetic Polyalloy (talk) 20:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I am adding a section called "Notable people" since this is the first article I have seen that does not have one and it will be blue linked people only. Jooojay (talk) 08:28, 9 November 2014 (UTC)

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"Agriculture has been an important industry within El Centro since the 1940s, because of its strategic location near rail lines and U.S. Highways 80 and 99." Old highway 80 is for the most part I-8 now but there are some stretches where the old highway parallels the interstate highway. However, Highway 99 was replaced by I-5 (except in the central valley of Calif where it parallels I-5 somewhat). The old #99 south from Indio is now SR 86 to Brawley where two state highways, 86 and 111 south to Calexico could be considered Rte 99. Dangnad (talk) 00:11, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

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Population doubled?
The article's assertion the population has doubled since the 2000 census is unsourced.

Sperling says the 2007 population was 5,900 (http://www.city-data.com/city/Holtville-California.html). The Chamber of Commerce site speaks of 6,000 (http://www.holtvillechamber.com/).

The doubling is looking dubious. Can a source be provided? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.172.186.229 (talk) 05:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

I am in receipt of an e-mail from City Clerk Glyn Snyder dated 4-24-09 which says "The Chamber of Commerce is correct" with regard to population. The Chamber of Commerce cites 6,000.

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Alamo River Trail
Hello Wikipedians. I am learning how to make wikipedia edits for my Digital Literacy class at Arizona State University and wanted to add a section about the Alamo River Trail in the Infrastructure area of the page. It is one of the most interesting new additions to the town and would like to archive its existence here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadbeat.superstar (talk • contribs) 21:51, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

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The Wild Blue Yonder
Was this a filming location for the alien capital? DrWho42 13:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

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Homeless
I'm homeless in Orange County California and just wanted to get the heck out of the city by I'm going to go check out the Slab City I hope I could stay there with no problems 2607:FB91:282:552E:AC39:87F7:4F98:7270 (talk) 06:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Slab city
Hoping to have a place to put in my tent and me and my girlfriend and my quad 2607:FB91:282:552E:AC39:87F7:4F98:7270 (talk) 06:55, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

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Found on Youtube a channel by an Anti-Windfarm activist based in Ocotillo. The windfarm down there might be worth mentioning on this page or as it's own separate article. Graham1973 (talk) 06:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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Link appears to be ad
The Why Salton City link appears to be an ad selling lots. I thought such links were prohibited on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.124.61 (talk) 04:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

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