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= > "As an entirely white highland county historically devoid of slaves" Is incorrect though most Fannin County, Georgia residents did not own slaves some people did. I am a resident of Fannin County and have visited the grave sites listed in the reference. I am not going to edit the article maybe the author will as I am not versed to adding references though the "VOID OF SLAVES" has no reference that I see.. d ,=Untitled== Wondering how to edit this U.S. County Entry? The WikiProject U.S. Counties standards might help. Information about the town of Blue Ridge, located in Fannin County, Georgia may be found at http://www.visitblueridge.com

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Forsyth Wealthiest County?
I believe the information citing Forsyth as the wealthiest county in Georgia is now outdated. From statistics taken by the news channel WSB (which includes counties' per capita income, percent living below poverty line, and unemployment rates), Oconee County, GA is now the wealthiest. Forsyth County is still up there, but in the interests of accuracy the information stating Forsyth as the wealthiest should be updated. Dubosec (talk) 15:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Addendum - Actually, at further investigation, Forsyth County has the highest median household income in Georgia, but Oconee appears to have the highest per capita income in Georgia. Information from the US Census Bureau has data from 2007 confirming that Forsyth County had the higher median household income, but the data for per capita income was from 1999 and thus 10 years out of date. I am going to keep researching this until I can come up with some a verifiable conclusion. Dubosec (talk) 15:52, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Living in Forsyth County all my life (17 years), I don't really find much racist sentiment exists, and I think it's a bit inaccurate to call the area "segregated." While there are few black people around, I don't detect any "fear." Particularly as rapid population growth is quickly converting the area from rural/redneckville to more of a middle class suburbia, I believe the racist element is declining. -- Booyabazooka

 * Booyabazooka - This may be true, but one anecdotal post doesn't account for much. The racist element of the Forsyth County population (prevailing or declining) is not worthy of notation, in my opinion.  I don't think it adds anything to the article. Racism in a historical context is, of course, always noteworthy. Justinlwilson (talk) 19:49, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

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No, but thanks. 68.219.72.114 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

March NOT from Atlanta to Cumming
This quote can't be right. "The following week, January 24, approximately 20,000 civil rights activists marched from Atlanta to Cumming."

No way! First of all, I was there, there is no frelling way we marched from Atlanta to Cumming. That would have been about 30 miles on GA 400. That would not have been a protest march but an insane massive walkathon. No, the march was just a few miles (maybe two or three?) from a staging area to the Town Square.

I'd change it myself, but that'd be original research, wouldn't it? 68.219.72.114 03:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

The march was less than a mile. Fairgrounds to town square. Picking Forsyth County for the march was about 20 years late. But other than Atlanta itself, is the only target around Atlanta that was in the running and it was a long shot at best.

BTW redneck is not a race or ethnic group. It is not even derogative unless the user intends it that way. Rednecks are hard working farmers whose necks get red in the sun all day.

1910-1912
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Vast majority of civil rights marchers were black
I was one of the 20,000 civil rights marchers that day, and I'm here to tell you that those of us of a distinctly European hue were a significant minority among the 20,000 that day. There is no way whites were 2/3 of the crowd. Alluding to unnamed and uncited eyewitnesses is not any better than me as a primary source, but we ought to be able to successfully dispute this notion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sanba38 (talk • contribs) 07:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
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 * I was living there, and as a spectator, remember whites were 10% of crowd, at most - Mitch 3000  18:52, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Pronuciation
The way the county's name is pronounced is the same way it's written. The "y" sounds like an "I." It is not pronoucned the same way the Star War's "sith" is. The "for" is pronouced the same way the english word is, an "f" sound, then "or"

It is not pronoucned fersidth. It seems that everyone else wants to pronounce it that way, but everyone who lives in the county would laugh if you called it that.

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 * "The 1910 census recorded 10,847 white, 658 black, and 440 mulatto (mixed-race) residents, making the number of black citizens slightly more than 5% (as classified under the binary system of the South that classified all people of any African descent as Negro or black)."

It seems that there were roughly 10,000 whites and 600 blacks + 400 mulatto = 1,000 blacks. This would be 10%, not 5% as the article states. What am I missing? Carptrash (talk) 03:00, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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It glitched and show the references in the box I didn't vanalize it but it just put the references in the box Mikey4prez (talk) 02:58, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

"Outside the area"
Someone has gone into this page (and the page about the marches) and been very clear to point out that "thousands of marchers on both sides came from outside the area."

This is both-sidesism taken to a logical extreme: of course the Black protestors came from outside the area, they would be chased out of town if they tried to live in the county. It adds nothing to the article and makes it seem like the white protestors also were outside rabble rousers, when there's no such reporting of this in contemporaneous reports. There certainly were outsiders in the protests, but this shouldn't be reported as fact.

I'm pulling this out; if someone wants to find some citations about this and add it back, go for it, but I'm not sure they exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ofsevit (talk • contribs) 17:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

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I think the options listed should probably be striken entirely. Much more useful would be a description of the option the state legislature has actually chosen, and how it relates to the large number of active annexation & incorporation proposals in the county. Jon 15:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, no one else has done it, so I've done it myself. Jon 13:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Secession
This heading contains POV. It needs to be rewrittedn in a more neutral tone. --Mjrmtg 15:17, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

In my opinion, the whole section contains POV. In particular, the paragraph with Vincent Fort is POV and unnecessary. IE: "Of course, there are other possible explanations for the proposed succession." I say we remove it, and work up a more balanced opposition view. Anyone have data on how this will affect Fulton County? Patrick Sewell (talk) 14:00, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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For whom was Fulton County named?
The article says that Fulton County was named after Robert Fulton and includes two references. But the first reference says that Fulton County was named after Hamilton Fulton, "a railroad official who acted as surveyor for the Western and Atlantic Railroad...and also as chief engineer of the state". The second reference says that it was named after Robert.

Which is it? I live in Fulton County and am leaning towards the Hamilton answer but I'll look for authoritative references before changing anything.

I copied the references verbatim from the article. I hope that didn't violate any any of the rules and guidelines. ROsattin (talk) 02:33, 13 March 2018 (UTC)

I think it's Robert Fulton. All official sites state that. (see below)

https://georgia.gov/cities-counties/fulton-county

http://www.fultoncountyga.gov/visitors-about-fulton-county

It seems like people want the Hamilton theory to be true since he actually has ties to the area, but that it's really Robert just as many other totally unrelated jurisdictions were named for him. (see below)

https://www.ajc.com/news/actual-factual-georgia-who-was-fulton-county-named-for/rzXYtA04RzUaGJxgJQamWI/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Fulton#Places_named_for_Fulton

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Why was it moved from Central_Military_Commission? This article discusses both the party and state CMCs. The title suggests it is only about the state one. Do other countries have prominent CMC's? --Jiang 22:46 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The article says the top leadership of the state CMC and the party CMC are the same, and Jiang Zemin passed the leaderships of both CMCs to Hu Jingtao in September 2004. Nonetheless, as far as I remember Jiang passed the leadership of the party state CMC slightly later than the state party CMC to Hu. — Instantnood 20:42, Feb 14 2005 (UTC)

I have found that Jiang is still the leader of the state CMC. It is expected the position will be passed to Hu on March 13, 2005, the last day of the meetings of the People's Consultative Conference and the National People's Congress. — Instantnood 07:10 Feb 26 2005 (UTC)

Jiang Zemin submitted the resignation today (March 4) and is pending to the approval by the National People's Congress. — Instantnood 13:05 Mar 4 2005 (UTC)

There were two
The KMT and ROC also had a Central Military Commission, with the same name and basic structure, set up by the same Soviet advisors. We should either create two level 1 sections or create a disambiguation. --Jiang 13:45, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Requested move
Central Military Commission → Central Military Commission of the People's Republic of China – disambiguation with the one in Vietnam and possibly other communist countries. DHN 04:40, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Please create the dab page now. — Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 09:23, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Reorganization?
There was something to that effect mentioned at the end of National Security Council. I've no other information about this, but still thought it was better served here. Alcarillo 17:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Remove this
Believed by whom? Also the chair of the CMC is only one member among several, and it is not clear how the decision making process works. Finally, Hua Guofeng was CMC chair and it didn't help him in the power struggle against Deng Xiaoping.
 * Leadership of the CMC is largely believed to be the most important in the PRC. Anyone who sits as a chairperson of the CMC has control of the armed forces, is recognized as Commander-in-Chief, and thereby has effective control over the state.Roadrunner 03:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

 * CMC chairmanship didn't help Jiang Zemin retain power 2003-04 either. Jiang couldn't even stop the "two centers" article from being published in the army newspaper, so the CMC is obviously set up in such a way that the chairman can be outvoted. Jiang had a 6-3 majority on the Politburo, but Hu Jintao put him out to pasture anyway. So the military members of the CMC, a group of people we know nothing about, may well be China's kingmakers. All the same, what position is more important than CMC chairman? The other big position is general secretary. During the Hua/Deng struggle, Hua was general secretary as well as CMC chairman. Mao was continuously CMC chairman, never general secretary. Kauffner 14:07, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Kauffner, you seem to have missed the transition from "hang on to power for as long as possible, at whatever cost" to "change leaders on a regular basis." Jiang Zemin's term was up, and he went. When Hu Jintao's term is up, he'll go, too. DOR (HK) (talk) 07:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Jiang's term was up only as party chief. He was planning to stay on CMC chairman until the army newspaper published an article criticizing the idea of "two centers." After what happen to Shanghai party boss Chen Liangyu, I doubt Hu or his major supporters will give up power voluntarily either.
 * To get back to the article, I think it should mentioned that Mao was CMC chairman. The military was his power base, how he could terrorize the Communist Party and the Politburo. Also, I think this sentance needs to be rewritten: The CMC is usually chaired by the Chinese President. Combining president, CMC chairman and party chief into one person is a recent development. After Liu Shaoqi was purged in 1966, nobody was president for 17 years. Kauffner (talk) 17:01, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Origins
I've added some earlier material about the party military committee pre-1949.DOR (HK) (talk) 07:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Structure
I'm surprised we missed mentioning the General Office, now headed by Wang Guangzhong, a member of the CCP DIC. DOR (HK) (talk) 10:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Remove Vietnam
Remove sentence that Vietnam has a CMC structure. According to the Vietnam People's Army article, it doesn't. Roadrunner (talk) 07:15, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It does. --TIAYN (talk) 07:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Tiananmen
Remove this sentence pending a correction:

 * Three members of the Politburo Standing Committee voted for martial law while two, General Secretary Zhao Ziyang and President Yang Shangkun, voted against it

Yang Shangkun was not a member of the PSC at the time of Tiananmen.

Any discussion on page move?
The page was recently moved from Central Military Commission (People's Republic of China) to Central Military Commission (Communist Party of China). Was this move discussed? Given that the CMC answers to two masters (state and party), and PRC does not necessarily imply a state-based entity, the previous title seems more appropriate. Am I missing something? Homunculus (duihua) 16:37, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A leader's party position is his "real" position. His state position may correspond to his party position, or it may be just an empty title. But the article title is not the place to attempt an explanation of such party-state complexities. A disambiguator is to allow the reader to easily distinguish among Wiki articles with similar titles. So the title of this article should be something like Central Military Commission (China). CMC answers to two masters? More like, the CMC picks the party boss. As for the state, it is never an independent actor in Chinese politics. Kauffner (talk) 07:22, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, the article should be at "Central Military Commission (China)", instead. Technically the two CMCs (military and state) are separate, but they are one in the same. Colipon+ (Talk) 12:32, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

 * I assume you mean "Central Military Commission (People's Republic of China)"? Homunculus (duihua) 18:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

 * No, because there is no ambiguity. We only use PRC when there is ambiguity. Colipon+ (Talk) 20:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Didn't the KMT had a central military commission, or something with a very similar name? That may introduce ambiguity.Homunculus (duihua) 20:51, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

 * You're talking about the "National Military Council". Sometimes it is rendered "CMC", but in most contexts there is no ambiguity whatsoever. Reminds me of the Vancouver, BC and Vancouver, Washington debate. Colipon+ (Talk) 20:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
 * A "(People's Republic of China)" disambiguator would imply that the article is about the state CMC. But the party CMC is the one that counts. It is also a really ugly four-word disambiguator. As a general principle, you don't make the disambiguator longer for no good reason. Kauffner (talk) 01:52, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

 * Fair enough, though we should probably add a note at the top of the page clarifying that it refers to the PRC organization, and directing readers looking for the KMT military council to the appropriate page. Homunculus (duihua) 02:38, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

Relationship with Politburo
This isn't true
 * Under the constitution of the Chinese Communist Party, the CMC is subordinate to the Politburo.

see http://www.china.org.cn/english/congress/229722.htm

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highly opinionated
The article seems VERY biased & highly opinionated. It needs serious re writing to be neutral. Teamgoon 09:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

mall of georgia
should'nt the mall of georgia be included in this?

-It is added now...

Maybe an attractions section should be added to? I hvent read the guideline link above but I dunno.. Onejsin 02:23, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

2nd largest?
"A county now over 725,000 residents, Gwinnett County is the second largest county in Georgia, next to Fulton County, which encompasses Atlanta city."

I removed this statement. I have not seen any substantiation of this claim. The Atlanta Regional Commission estimates still have DeKalb County ahead of Gwinnett County by 6,600 residents (700,500 to 693,900) as of 2005.

So until there is a clear consensus, please refrain from cheerleading Gwinnett into second place. Onyourside 10:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

-According to the US Census Quickfacts Data, Gwinnett had an estimated population of 700,794 while Dekalb was only had 675,725 residents as of 2004... |Gwinnett and |Dekalb Also, Gwinnett county's own website gives the population as 700,794 siting 'Gwinnett County Forecasting and Research Division and U.S. Census Bureau, 2005'

Yep go to www.census.gov

Then go to the Factfinder. Here's the details of the 2004 census: Total population Fulton County: 782,858 Gwinnett County: 694,024 | Gwinnett Dekalb Co.: 660,714 | Dekalb Cobb Co.: 644,798

I was sure I saw 700k somewhere; it is 2006 (2 years after that data) so I'm pretty sure we're over 700k; nonetheless, we're still second after Fulton and before Dekalb. Also according to your statement, the proof you have is an estimate. I used the official census to get the details.--Onejsin 04:46, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

I didn't see any in depth history here. What counties was it former of, who founded and when, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.24.73.188 (talk) 21:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

Re-write
Article highly biased; removed several which and also wordings. Ncsr11 (talk) 20:44, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

 * The article is far less opinionated after re-write. Ncsr11 (talk) 15:10, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

As of 2019, Gwinnett is the 2nd largest county in Georgia by population and poised to surpass Fulton within the next 20 years. gujamin (talk) 17:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Commute time
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 * The average commute time is 30.8 minutes, ranking it the highest in the metropolitan Atlanta area

The meaning of this "ranking" is ambiguous, in my view. Does this mean it is the longest commute in Atlanta, or the best or what? Certainly if it is the "longest", it would be better to state that than to give it the appearance that it has some wonderful #1 ranking. 98.82.84.209 (talk) 14:24, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine, well, it's unacceptable, and no one has an explanation, so I'm deleting it. 98.82.84.209 (talk) 16:57, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Seems pretty clear that it is the longest. Meters (talk) 04:35, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, you can say it's clear, but it obviously wasn't clear to at least one person. What at least the two of us can agree on is that the current version that you have is more clear.
 * By the way, do we have a source on that? I'm not familiar with the "2003" census?  May have to delete it, anyway. 98.82.84.209 (talk) 11:41, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't argue against deleting it on the basis of no reliable source. For that matter, it is out of date too. Have at it. Meters (talk) 23:19, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Never mind. I self reverted. Meters (talk) 23:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Merge?
I propose that Type of Government and Elections in Gwinnett County, Georgia be merged into this article as the information can be easily covered in this article. - Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 19:57, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. Meters (talk) 17:26, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

Historic Courthouse Photo currently displayed
This section is being added by the Gwinnett County Government. We are trying to add a new photo to replace the Historic Courthouse photo. We tried to add the new photo yesterday, but it was reverted by another user. The current photo is of an historic courthouse that is only used as an event venue now. The new courthouse (the Gwinnett Justice and Administration Center) at 75 Langley Drive has been the official courthouse since 1988. We will be happy to find another photo that does not contain people, but we would like to have the current official courthouse of the county shown, and not the historic courthouse on the Lawrenceville town square. Gwinnettcounty (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Who is "we"? - SudoGhost 18:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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Ground-attack deleted
The initial lack of ground attack capability derives from the fact, that the FDF (Finnish Defence Forces) has an over-sized artillery branch compared to other countries of similar size. This together with advanced ballistics and trajectory modelling, and the defensive nature of the FDF made ground-attack capability unnecessary back then.--Elmeri B. Suokirahvi 15:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It was also mandated by the Paris peace treaty of 1947 that banned bombers in the Finnish air force. This ban was later unilaterally rejected, but it played a part in the original specification and the competition. -- Petri Krohn 22:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Why was this page moved?
No explanation appears to be forthcoming, so it is now back in its original location. Tannin

mearge?
why does this page need to be mearged with F/A 18?

 * I see no reason for merging these articles; the Finnish F-18 is different enough from the F/A 18 to merit ist own article and has an interesting history of its own. I'll remove the merge header for now; if anybody disagrees, fell free to reinsert the header, but please explain why it should be merged -- Ferkelparade 21:53, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I dunno, I think it can be documented in the F/A-18 page. It's not that different. In fact, I would venture to say that we should simply have a section in the main article for "International customers" or something, and reference all of those. I think the Finnish version is pretty similar to the Swiss version, no? Also, someone decided to use the image of a USN F/A-18. Isn't that against the spirit of having a separate version? -Joseph 21:56, 2004 Aug 11 (UTC)

 * I totally agree on the image (in fact, there has been a request on WP:RP for an image of a Finnish F18 for quite some time, but unfortunately, I won't be in Finland anytime this year...), but I still think that major variants of planes merit their own articles, especially if they bear their own designation. Yes, the Swiss F18 is very similar, but that information could go into a new paragraph in the article - would be much better than just having a short note in the F/A-18 article. -- Ferkelparade 22:03, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Merge II
Note: This discussion has been moved to Talk:F/A-18 Hornet per Merge Notice. Thanks. - BillCJ 23:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Merge approved 3-1. See Talk:F/A-18 Hornet for details. - BillCJ 16:53, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

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Talk:History of the United States (1964–present)

This article is huge - 50 kilobytes. There is no excuse for that. I've also read just a couple of sections and found that they are mostly copy and paste jobs of much of the material in the various main articles (such as the Vietnam War). I'm going to go through this article and cut out much of the detail and duplication in order to get this page under 30 kilobytes again. --mav 22:48 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)
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Can I suggest dividing the article into, say (1964-80) and (1980-present)?

In fact, that's what I'm going to do. 172 23:05 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * That does not negate the fact that much of the material here is simply copied from other articles - very little summarizing has gone on and I am also working on this article right now. If you want to help build a textbook on American history then please do so on the textbook Wiki. In Wikipedia, however, we leave the detail on articles that deal with specific subjects - higher level articles like this are supposed to summarize events not largely regurgitate them. I also question the legality of your willy nilly habit of copying text from other Wikipedia articles and not stating that fact in the edit summaries. Per the GNU FDL attribution is an absolute requirement. --mav 23:14 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * This is a huge work in progress and many measures taken along the way are going to be stop-gaps. Also, the vast majority of the 64-80 and 80-present articles consist of new material not on any other site. While the Vietnam and civil rights sections are largely borrowed, wouldn't you say that they're summarized? 172 23:21 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * No - they are not summarized when they are copied wholesale with all their tiny little facts. Just because you didn't copy the whole article doesn't mean that that makes it a summary. --mav
 * Come on. I never claimed that the section was finished. Second, it was a summary since I copied only the key points: the background, the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, the Tet Offensive, the My Lai Massacre, Vietnamization, and the withdrawal. I'm happy to see you editing this, but what's wrong with dividing it between 64-80 and 80-present. It would be a good idea to redirect this page again and post your changes to the 64-80 article. I say this because there should be an article on the last 23 years rather than the past 39 years since so much has to be ended on the past 12 years. The 1990s so far remains practically the only period in the past 70 years on which I haven't really worked. BTW, sorry for the horrific writing style of this message. I'm going need to freshen up with my coffee and cigarettes, which keeps my mind working. 172 23:50 26 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Hall county has been hit pretty hard by the Covid-19 pandemic so I was wondering if it is necessary to include a section dedicated to the effects of the Covid-19 pandemic in Hall County? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grahamevan05178 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

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Proposed change to Harris primary topic
At present if you type "Harris" into the wikipedia search box you are taken to the Isle of Harrises entry! As there are many uses of the word Harris it has been proposed to change this so that when you type "Harris" you are taken to the Harris (disambiguation) page instead.

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Thanks --WickerWiki (talk) 18:59, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Removed Mulberry Grove link
In Cities and Towns, a link referring to a place in Harris County called Mulberry Grove, redirects to a place called Mulberry Grove Plantation near Savannah, hundreds of miles from Harris County. The only sign I can find of such a place in Harris County is a road; if someone creates a page specifically about the place in Harris County and a disambiguation page to distinguish it from the plantation, there would be some justification for listing it as a "town" on this page. In the meantime, I've removed it. ak4mc (talk) 04:03, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Claim In History Section
It is noted that the January 1912 lynching in this county of Dusky Crutchfield was the first instance in Georgia of a woman being a victim; however, according to the former website BEFORE THE NEEDLES, there were several incidents antedating this: one in October 1884, another in July 1886, a third in November 1906 and one case in May 1907 with a mother and daughter dying at the hands of mob violence.

I do not propose to dispute the edits made on the basis of the article published in the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, as I am uncertain how reliable the source I cite may be.

http://web.archive.org/web/20080805190333/http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/lynchings/Georgia%20Lynchings.htm

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Heard County Rangers
One of or the Confederate soldier units from this area was called the Heard County Rangers, which saw service across a wide area from Mississippi to Virginia. It was esp composed of local farmers who supplemented farming with hunting in local woods of deer, turkey etc making them excellent sharpshooters.

It was part of 41st George Infantry. It had repeated heavy casualties of over 100 % (replenished) and surrendered with 70 men out of normal 300+. Original commander was Capt William B Thomason

Unrelated to this unit, was an excursion during the later days of the war of 2,000 union cavelry through this area. During their movements the locals kept well back in the woods, but fired on them often until they lost half of their strength of 2,000 from this sniping.... [Heard Co Rangers may have been involved as were at nearby battle of Atlanta.]

ref ab heard co rangers pages 19-21 (see at bottom) of CARROLL COUNTY GEORGIA’S CIVIL WAR UNITS 1861-1865 by HUGH W. (BILL) BARROW [covers neighboring Heard Co, Ga.] CARROLL COUNTY GEORGIA’S CIVIL WAR UNITS 1861-1865

HUGH W. (BILL) BARROW 124 MANOR WAY CARROLLTON, GEORGIA 30117 770-830-7763

page 19 COMPANY I  “HEARD COUNTY RANGERS”   Heard County

William B. Thomason was the first captain and the only one listed. Charles A McDaniel, the President of Bowdon Collegiate Institute and pastor of the Bowdon Methodist Protestant Church, was the organizer of the 41st Georgia Infantry Regiment. (See the section on Cobb’s Legion Infantry) He had previously served as captain of Co B of Cobb’s Legion, Infantry in Virginia. He was sent back to Georgia by Colonel Tom Cobb to recruit a regiment to hopefully expand Cobb’s Legion battalion to brigade size. He successfully recruited 10 companies, about 1,000 men, and formed the 41st Georgia Infantry Regiment. The 41st Georgia was mustered in on March 17, 1862 and McDaniel was of course elected its colonel and William Ezra Curtis its lt. colonel. Curtis, of Carrollton, resigned as a captain of Company F, 19 Georgia to join McDaniel.

Unfortunately for Colonel Cobb, the regiment was not sent back to him in Virginia but was assigned to The Army of Mississippi and sent to near Corinth, Mississippi on April 6, 1862.

page 20 The 41st saw some skirmish duty around Corinth. The regiment had an alarming large number of men to die of disease in April, May and June in Mississippi. Many of these, including Captain Hembree, died in hospitals especially in Columbus and West Point and also in other cities in Mississippi. The regiment in August was assigned to East Tennessee in The Army of Mississippi. The 41st was the first Georgia regiment to become a part of this army or what later became The Army of Tennessee. They were a part of Major General Kirby Smith’s right wing of Gen Braxton Bragg’s force that invaded Kentucky and were assigned to Major General Ben Cheathams’s Division, Brig. General. Ben Maney’s Brigade in Lt. General Leonidas Polk’s Corps. Maney’s Brigade was an all Tennessee brigade except for the 41st Georgia. They saw their first combat in a pretty good little battle at Richmond, Kentucky on August 20, 1862. On October 8, 1862, the 41st was heavily engaged, being the extreme right unit of the attack on Brig. Gen Phil Sheridan’s Federal Division of McCook’s Corps at Perryville, KY. Colonel McDaniel was mortally wounded while gallantly leading his men in the successful attack. Both Carroll County companies had severe losses, Company G had 5 men killed and Company H, “The Wool Hat Boys”, had 3 killed. The 41st regiment reported 35 men killed and there were many wounded, many of whom had to be left behind when Bragg decided to get back to Tennessee through Cumberland Gap ASAP. These losses came just a short time after McDaniel’s first command; Company B of Cobb’s Legion had 14 men killed in Maryland. The 32-year-old McDaniel lived another 10 days and died in the Presbyterian Church Hospital in Harrodsburg, Kentucky and was buried in the cemetery there. Harrodsburg was occupied by the Federal Army at the time of his death. In 1871, his body was moved to Bowdon and after a long funeral ceremony at his college, he was buried in the little Methodist Protestant Church cemetery where he had been the pastor. Lt. Colonel Curtis was promoted to colonel and served in this capacity until he was seriously wounded at Mill Creek Gap near Dalton on February 25, 1864. We believe that he was moved to the home of his in-laws near Newnan where he died on March 24, 1864. He is buried in the old Methodist Church Cemetery, the only grave there that does not face east. He is buried facing north, toward the enemy. We have no information on whether there was another colonel but we do not believe there would be one. We believe that Lt. Colonel John Knight, the original major, was still around and could have been promoted or maybe he served the now small regiment at his current rank. He was discharged in June, 1864 and enlisted in the Invalid Corps. After the Kentucky Campaign, the 41st was sent back to Mississippi as a part of the Army of Tennessee in Stevenson’s Division, Seth Barton’s Brigade to serve in Gen. Pemberton’s Vicksburg defensive force. Their brigade suffered great losses in the Battle of Champion Hill including 58 killed, 106 seriously wounded and 737 missing or captured on May 16, 1863. After that terrible day of so many killed, wounded and so many captured, they fought at Baker’s Creek and the Big Black River then retreated with Pemberton’s troops to the trenches and defensive lines around Vicksburg. General Stevenson was highly complimentary of the 41st for their capture of 107 of the enemy pickets while on patrol along the Warrenton Road during the siege. The 47-day siege lasted until July 4, 1863 when Pemberton surrendered the entire army to General Grant. Grant was lenient with the starving men and paroled most of them to return to their homes.

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In October the paroled men of Vicksburg were officially exchanged and told to report back to their regiments at certain locations. Evidently many of the men of the 41st as well as Carroll County’s men from the 34th and 56th regiments refused to obey this order as they were not certain that they were indeed exchanged. They had been told by Gen. Grant when they were paroled at Vicksburg, to stay at their homes and not to take up arms again. Because such a large number resisted the call-back order, Maj. General Stevenson, their division commander, asked Governor Brown and the Confederate commander in the Atlanta area, to send a cavalry company to Carroll County to round up these men which they did. Evidently, most of all three regiments did eventually report back as all three were back in the ranks in time to take a part in Gen. Bragg’s unsuccessful defensive effort at Missionary Ridge later in November. The 41st became a part of Breckenridge’s Corps, A. P. Stewart’s Division, Stovall’s Brigade with Colonel Curtis still in command of the 41 st Regiment.

The 41st wintered in Dalton and was in several battles and skirmishes around there including the defense of Mill Creek Gap, Buzzard’s Roost and Rocky Face Ridge where Col. Curtis was severely wounded in February, 1864. They were now assigned to Gen. Hood’s Corps and played a very big part in the Battle of Resaca where Stewart’s Division was on the Rebel’s far right. They were involved in all the battles that followed in the Atlanta campaign of 1864. When General Hood replaced General Joe Johnston as head of the Army of Tennessee, the 41st served in Cheatham’s Corps, Stewart’s Division, Stovall’s Brigade. In Atlanta, Stephen D. Lee was promoted to lieutenant general and took command of Hood’s old corps with Cheatham returning to lead his old division. They fought at Ezra Church and Jonesboro under General Lee. The 41stwas commanded at Jonesboro by Major M. S. Nall.

In Hood’s Tennessee campaign of late 1864, the 41st served in Lee’s Corps, Clayton’s Division, Stovall’s Brigade with Captain J. E. Stallings commanding the brigade. They were part of the terrible battles at Franklin and Nashville in November and December and in the horrible retreat afterwards. The few that were left of the regiment eventually joined Gen. Johnston in North Carolina and took part in several battles including Bentonville. We know that the 41st was consolidated late in the war with the 40th and 43rd Georgia Infantry Regiments and called the 40th Georgia Battalion. There were not enough men of the three consolidated regiments to even make up a regulation size regiment. They surrendered with General Johnston’s Army in Greensboro on April 28, 1865.

One of these union soldiers, road up to a well at Glenn, Ga (Heard Co) to stop and get a drink and died apparently of exhaustion or a stroke and is buried at the cemetary there, and he no had papers giving his name and so no known name,etc

As the movie (Gangs of New York) showed, many union soldiers were conscripts and younger men with no stake or interest in the war but were signed up to get a small salary and three meals a day, being immigrants from e.g. Ireland. And sharpshooters soldiers, in the Conferate units esp grew tired of firing and killing so many of these "fine boys". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.250.203.180 (talk) 23:53, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

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