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Albany Patch external link
I added a link to Albany Patch as an external link but it was removed as spam. The "local media" section that was also removed was not my addition and was superfluous given the external link I added, which also included a page link to Patch. As a resident of the city of Albany CA, I can vouch for albany.patch.com as a valuable, well-maintained community resource highly relevant to this city and feel that it should be retained as an external link. This patch site serves precisely the same purpose as the sparsely-populated Albany wikispot site now listed under external links; the only difference is that albany.patch is actually useful. SteveChervitzTrutane (talk) 08:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, I've actually removed most of the links as unnecessary and/or advertising. City articles should generally contain links to official city sites or school districts. TN X Man  12:48, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I suppose that's consistent, however, I feel it would be appropriate for Wikipedia to have a way to point to hyperlocal community resource for any given city. Such sites may contain ads, but they contribute substantially to the community by providing local news, events, stories of local interest, and pointers to local businesses -- going beyond what could be provided by a city government run website or a city-specific Wikinews feed, and valuable to anyone interested in learning about the goings-on in a particular city. Larger cities might cover this via dedicated articles (e.g. Media in Seattle), but that would be overkill for a small city like Albany, CA. Perhaps something can be done via a category such as Hyperlocal media coverage by State along with State-specific articles that could list resources per city or region. Just an idea. SteveChervitzTrutane (talk) 08:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to add there is an external link to the Chamber of Commerce, and links on the page to other places such as Golden Gate Fields (race track), and other entities that have their own financial stakes. I run a news website that has no subjective bias (though it does allow community members to share there opinions of every stripe). Again -- I don't see why this valuable community resource should be censored by Wiki. EmilieAlbany (talk) 02:35, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

census 2000 data
The data reported does not match with the data from the census web site linked from the city's web site ( at http://albanyca.org/index.aspx?page=60): http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=86000US94706&_geoContext=01000US|86000US94706&_street=&_county=albany&_cityTown=albany&_state=04000US06&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=geoSelect&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=860&_submenuId=factsheet_1&ds_name=DEC_2000_SAFF&_ci_nbr=null&qr_name=null%C2%AE=null%3Anull&_keyword=&_industry=

resident: 16,444 (wiki reads 16,447) There may be other discrepancies. wiki also lists the number of families residing in the city. i could not find it in the census data.

Anyway it may be obsolete soon when Census 2010 becomes available next month. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngufra (talk • contribs) 21:31, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

I updated the data to include the 2010 U.S. Census and the 2005-09 American Community Survey. I included the ACS data because most of the demographic info from 2000 is no longer part of the U.S. Census form.EmilieAlbany (talk) 04:01, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

From Albany Patch, Emilie R
I run Albany Patch. It's Albany's only daily news source. I am a trained journalist and I work full time writing about and documenting what is happening in Albany. How is this not relevant to someone who wants to learn about the city?

It doesn't make sense not to include information about local media. I post 5-10 items a day about what is happening in Albany, from schools and government to photographs and other features, volunteer opportunities, recognition for achievements. It simply makes no sense to have a blackout on this information.

I could post 100 messages on here from community members saying how much the site matters to them, and how much it improves their experience of their city. To dismiss a link to the site as advertising seems short-sighted at best.

I apologize if this is an emotional topic for me, but I live and breathe Albany, and dedicate probably 80 percent of my waking time to reporting on what seems most important and relevant to the community. For this to be repeatedly dismissed strikes me as unfortunate and unnecessary. AlbanyPatch (talk) 09:09, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

The bulb
Wikipedia's article could probably have something about the bulb, not just in Geography heading but also in Demographics (about the homeless living at the bulb.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngufra (talk • contribs) 19:03, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Daveed Diggs from Albany??
Was looking over the section that talks about famous people from Albany, and noticed Daveed Diggs (Jefferson from the Broadway musical Hamilton). This was news to me. But, when I go to the Wikipedia page for Diggs, it says he was from Berkeley. What is source to attribute him to Albany?Robertjm (talk) 02:09, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

 * Daveed attended Albany Middle School. Here is an interview from 2016 where he says as much.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doLjpZGUGv4&t=112s 2601:644:500:D4E0:9443:24A4:A8D7:F31C (talk) 17:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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Homelessness - POV issue
Much of the section reads more like an editorial than an encyclopedia entry. Also, much of it deals with homelessness generally, and not specifically Berkeley. You should not be able to gauge the opinion of the author(s) on non-factual issues, but in this case it is quite obvious that the author(s) are on a particular side of the debate. Wikipedia is supposed to be about facts that are backed up by third-party information, not an advocacy forum.174.21.65.181 (talk) 02:07, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Laboratory
I am missing the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, a national lab. -DePiep (talk) 11:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Vollmer
Shouldn't there be at least a mention of August Vollmer, Berkeley's first police chief and an important figure in law enforcement? 70.36.136.182 (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

 * I don't see much on the police force in general, and thus naming individual chiefs might be undue. Vollmer is definitely notable and is listed at List of people from Berkeley, California, which is linked to at the bottom of the article. At least there's that. Dhtwiki (talk) 03:58, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

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Local Lore
The sentence on Castro Valley's high concentration of fast food restaurants seems to be too much of an urban legend/myth to be included in a Wikipedia article. Absent anything to substantiate the claim, I think the sentence should be removed. Any objections? - Walkiped 21:27, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * I removed the following sentence for the reasons above: It is believed (though unsubstantiated) that Castro Valley has the highest concentration of fast food restaurants in an arbitrarily large geographical area. - Walkiped 08:02, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, in about one square mile there exist 2 McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Subway, Togo's, KFC, Taco Bell, and Jack in the Box. (There's also three Starbucks, but that's another story.) While there's no real proof (it's claimed that this is in the Guiness Book of World Records), I think it's a pretty pervasive meme among the population. But you're right; it doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article. - mako 11:41, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

External Links: Commerical or Not
I reverted to the version with the external links. While I agree the Local2Me site really borders on being commercial, I think the MyCastroValley.com link is a fantastic historical source.

I've reviewed your comments. Local2Me is an annoyance. They (or someone else) re-add their link every few days. I've also pointed to the history section on mycastrovalley. It's inaccurate, but many historical reference are about the SF Bay Area. Part of the problem is the 1906 earthquake and fire burned many of the pre-1849 records; including Mission reports to Spain. Their might be Spanish records, but I haven't run into anyone that can answer that question one way or another. Nor is there any information, that I've found yet, if anyone has looked if Spain has records. meatclerk 05:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. I was not aware there was any controversy about the historical accuracy of the mycastrovalley site. However, the later sections with the photographs are certainly useful (as you say, post 1849). Let's just remove the Local2Me and keep the mycastrovalley unless anyone else has an objection.--imars 06:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

 * There are no inaccuracies per se. I am currently reviewing a statement by Alan Hynding in his book, From Frontier to Suburb: The Story of The San Mateo Peninsula, pg. 9. He writes:

 * The careless use of words like Oholone and Costano reveals the general confusion and ignorance surrounding the history and culture of San Mateo (County) Indians, (...)

 * Just before that he writes:
 * South of Half Moon Bay, (...) Father Juan Crespi (...) describes the local Olxan (Ohlone) villages ...

 * The second quotation actual says Ohlone in paranethesis(sp?). So what he says is that somehow over the years the word Ohlone has been used incorrectly. Ohlone is a group that resided next to the coast just south of Half Moon Bay. There is no, nor was there ever, a larger group, or group of the same name in a different area. I can get the name of that indiain group and we could correct that error on the website, but everyone else has it wrong. So correcting it means correcting the several hundred volunterr historicans now in the SF Bay Area. No small task. That's the only real error. meatclerk 07:45, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

 * The naming of the Ohlone as Ohlone is no different than the French calling the Germans "Allemann", which was the name of one specific German tribe (or our using the name "German" for that matter). I see nothing wrong with using what has become the accepted name for this group. From the article on the Ohlone:
 * "Originally, the name 'Ohlone', probably derived from a Spanish rancho called Oljon, referred to a single band who inhabited the Pacific coast near Pescadero. The name 'Ohlone' may have also come from the name of an Indian village or site near modern-day San Mateo. However, since the 1960s the term is now informally extended to refer to all the native Americans who live around San Francisco Bay and Monterey Bay, often replacing the term Costanoan ('coastal people'), a name given to them by Spaniard explorers."
 * --imars 15:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

 * To note on this subject of the name ohlone, it is not a correct usage. Can you please quote your source?
 * Both names are historically incorrect contrivances and adaptations. meatclerk 04:47, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I listed my source above. The Ohlone Wikipedia article. We do not always get to choose what we call ourselves. The Japanese call themselves nihonjin. The Germans call themselves deutsch. You say Ohlone is wrong, but you provide no alternative. What term should we be using?--imars 07:21, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

 * I have reviewed this matter as best I could. At the present, I do not have an alternative, nor do I believe one might be available. The best thing to do might be to make note that the name is inaccurate in the Ohlone article. I have several sources at this point that could give us alternative names, but I believe (at least at this point) that simply disregarding Ohlone would be counter productive. Should I continue? meatclerk 08:09, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Aaah. OK. I am all for in the Ohlone article stating the term Ohlone is an anglicization of the name the Spanish used for one community of California coastal Indians, also known as Coastanoan (or some such). Alternative terms used by xyz noted in source abc are alpha, beta, gamma. In this article you might note, "...the Ohlone (though there is some dispute about the usage of this name)...That would be my suggestion. Hats off to you for your diligence!--imars 06:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Continue Ohlone
I note that article is inaccurate also. I did write some information on the talk page. But as I said it is a real problem. In addition, I am reading The Costanoan/Ohlone Indians of The San Francisco and Monterey Bay Area. ISBN 0-87919-140-6 (pbk.) (c)1997 by Lauren Teixeira. She notes the errors also. I also note the constant errors of Spanish translation and Anglosization of the words. It makes research very difficult. I read and speak Spanish. meatclerk 07:29, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
 * On the other hand, one person's egregious error may be another's evolution of language. --Guinnog 08:13, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Barbara Lee

 * Lee received a 97% progressive rating from a self-described non-partisan group that provides a "searchable database of Congressional voting records from a Progressive perspective", and a 13% conservative rating from a conservative group.

I moved this section to the talk page. The nature of Barbara Lee's record should be included in her article not in the CV article.imars (talk) 11:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Crimes section
This section was added: "On May 1st 2003, the body of a young girl was found in a large green bag near the dumpster of the Carrows. After years of research, it is revealed that the girl is 16 year old Yesenia Nungaray. [ref=http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=33287]"

The questions that the imars asked upon removing the section were : ''Does this really contribute to the article? Do other cities have Crimes sections?'' My humble opinion: No, it does not add to the article, and No, other cities do not have crimes sections. But I do understand the psychological reason behind adding a section like this. I live in Castro Valley. Not much happens here. Locals like me have an interest in recording some of the things that make Castro Valley famous or infamous. For example, a recently removed "famous people from Castro Valley" section included that Val Diamond, the actress in the long-running show, Beach Blanket Babylon, lives in Castro Valley, is of interest to me. I understand the desire to add that to the article. There was a fairly infamous unsolved murder of a girl, Jenny Lin, who we don't want to forget.1 The body found near Carrows is important for Castro Valleyans to remember. Does the rest of the world need to know this about Castro Valley? Probably not.--Ccady (talk) 23:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

 * I was born in Castro Valley, so I have an obvious interest in the town, too. I agree that people should not forget victims of violent crime, but should an encyclopedia article serve as a memorial to them? You seem to agree that this event may not be something that the rest of the world needs to know. Perhaps another forum would better serve as a memorial. Another point: what kind of precedent does this set. Exactly what crimes warrant inclusion in the crimes section? Do we list every murder that ever occurred in Castro Valley? What about assault, arson, rape, shoplifting? It is hard to know where to draw the line. I also wonder if this is not link spam for FOX's America's Most Wanted.
 * To the point about Val Diamond. I think she should be included as she is notable, see WP:NOTEimars (talk) 05:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I added Val Diamond. The section was deleted because there were no references to verify whether those people were ever resident.imars (talk) 06:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Brazil brothers notable or not?
There seems to be an edit war between two IP users 76.222.95.131 and 71.202.78.255. Would you two like to discuss the issue instead of reverting each other?imars (talk) 19:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that adding these two to the list is unwarranted. My guess is that the wiki article on Darren Brazil would fail a challenge of notability. Just because TV is TV does not make everyone who works in that industry notable.--Fizbin (talk) 20:19, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree to a certain extent. According to the article, the one brother has won three local Emmy awards in the last two years. I would consider that notable, but the links to the Emmys are dead. imars (talk) 07:28, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Notable residents
Shall we have a discussion about the notable residents section? I think it is sensible to have, but we should establish who is notable and who is not. For that we can certainly fall back on WP:NOTABILITY imars (talk) 09:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I think any Notable Residents section is bound to fail. There will always be people who think that X is notable, and others who think that's ridiculous.  The existence of a Wikipedia article on that person does not guarantee "notability", as someone will just add the article in order to make the link.  If we have links in the Castro Valley article to people, they should have some important function in Castro Valley other than just happening to live there.  We do not have a "Notable Residents" section in the "Los Angeles" article -- it, too, is doomed to failure.  I believe that the section must be removed.--Ccady (talk) 18:50, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Notable residents is part of the U.S. City template. See WP:USCITY. As for the standard of notability, one should be able to cite some mainstream media indicating the a) the person is notable and b) that the person is from or lives in Castro Valley. That said, I am not a huge fan of the notable resident heading, because people misuse it, but I do feel it has its place.  imars (talk) 21:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I think it is a poor idea, but unless others join me in this, I won't try to remove it.--Ccady (talk) 13:35, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

No such highway
Mention of Interstate 238 has gotta be a mistake, because there's no such highway in this area. However there IS a California state highway 238 in this area. Could that be a valid correction to the text? 198.144.192.45 (talk) 14:31, 13 August 2014 (UTC) Twitter.Com/CalRobert (Robert Maas)
 * Interstate 238 is correct according to the wiki article Interstate_238.Tonywiki09 (talk) 07:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

There is an Interstate highway entering into Castro Valley, though it mostly passes through San Leandro and San Lorenzo.2601:9:5F80:D550:80B8:DEC5:3E5A:1DEB (talk) 02:15, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * West Dublin TOD info -

The article states that the city council approved the building of an IKEA despite the fact that residents do not want it built. Were there public hearings or some sort of vote? Without a reference, that statement sounds like opinion.

I'm sorry if it's a big no no, but I edited that to make it not in Headline form. As for my response, you don't live in Dublin, do you? There was a lot of outcry down here about the things, I.E petitions and meetings and shit. Though I have no idea if there was an official city council forum. Lettuceclock 22:21, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Valley Christian
Lori Cantrell is Vice Principal of the elementary school, not principal of the school.

 * What's your reasoning for calling VCS an "elite prep" school? To my knowledge it is neither elite nor a prepatory school. - Walkiped 21:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

 * So the school does claim to be a prep school, but until we can somehow back up the "elite" claim I'm striking it from the article. - Walkiped 03:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Civic boosterism
This article is dominated by civic boosters, who have been putting civic pride ahead of encyclopedic content. I don't see any mention of Santa Rita Jail in this article, as an example.(mercurywoodrose)76.245.45.179 (talk) 07:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

This whole article reeks of boosterism and NPOV propaganda. I've been to Dublin, it's just not that impressive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.180.83 (talk) 12:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

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Comment
I found some interesting information about the Emeryville Shellmound on the Olympia Oyster page. I am, unfortunately, not skilled enough to integrate it into this page, so this is just my little pointer. MDCore 17:58, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the tip, that page is now pointed to by a new ==See also== section. Leonard G. 06:15, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Picture request
Need pictures of the Emeryville Mudflat art. Can you contribute (these will be old - 1960, 70, 80) -- Leonard G. 04:24, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * Some of this stuff is still up. I can go take pictures of it as I live in Emeryville. - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 06:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Also, that main image is basically impossible to see. I want to see if I can get a better one of Emeryville. - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 16:35, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I concur that photo is terrible. It looks like a vidcap from a home video shot as one was flying out of SFO or something.  We definitely need a better photo of the skyline, though I have no idea where you can get one.  Taking a photo from Treasure Island in the afternoon facing towards Emeryville might work.  --Coolcaesar 16:57, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'm trying to think about places to get the shot from. There are those tall apartments that are in the city that might give a nice shot. Or maybe I should get my helicopter out of storage and go for a spin. Wouldn't that be sweet? - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 17:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I just removed the main image because of its poor quality. I'd rather have no main image that a poor one. There are at least other pictures on the page to make up for this one missing. - Zepheus (ツィフィアス) 20:20, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Possible Historical Subject
Does anybody remember anything about the past Emeryville Police Chief that drove around in a Delorean DMC-12? He would 'facilitate' doing business in Emeryville. This was when the Townhouse Restaurant was a country-western bar. The Chief would hold court in one of the back booths.

As I remember it, he disappeared without a trace.

This would make a good history story. Something that the present Emeryville promoters may not be keen on seeing in print.

It was big news in the early 1980's.

--DJay 21:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

 * I added a section about E-ville's "colorful past" before I read your comments. You can bet your sweet ass that those booster and C-of-C types will positively hate any such stuff here. Tough shit.
 * My take: Emeryville of old was all about whoring, as it is today. Only difference is that yesterday's was a good-hearted hooker, while today's is a money-grubbing, dot-comming, blood-sucking yuppie scum real estate developer. You know the type.
 * I honestly don't know much more about that "colorful past" but would like to; will stay tuned here. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 06:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

History section
The History section needs cleaning. It seems to jump forward and backward through time a bit, needs subheadings as it's getting quite long, and needs references. ''It has some external links embedded which could be turned into citeweb references. - Zepheus <ツィフィアス> 21:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Importance
Is Emeryville mainly important because it is at the intersection of the 80, 580, and 880, Berkeley, Oakland, and San Francisco, or are there other reasons? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:640:4000:8CD0:F180:BBC8:CDF3:9894 (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

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Partly due to it's low residential but high daytime population and industrial nature, Emeryville still has a ridiculously high crime rate, mostly property crime, which is about 10x the national average. Violent crime is only double the national average, which is only moderate for an urban area. The 80s anecdotes above have been removed, as well as the mention of 21st century crime, despite ranking as a 0/100 safety score for serveral years in a row. B137 (talk) 02:19, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

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I'm surprised there is no mention of the Hayward climate being by bay area standards -the best. Never cold,hot,too wet, or dry.Summers are spring like,Winters mild. Or,that Clint Eastwood grew up in Hayward,if not born here.22:22, 25 March 2007 209.244.43.90 (talk)(moved from Wikimedia Commons talk page for hayward ca)
 * Climate should definitely be mentioned, but its not much different from other cities. though the bay area is noted for having microclimates. Eastwood was a resident in Piedmont, not hayward, AFAIK.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Well,Wiki says Johannesburg is a "subtropical climate". Yet,its winter temperatures are colder then Hayward.

Also- Tom Hanks the actor went to Chabot College..and has done free events for the school. He always says nice things about the schools drama and credits it for helping him develop.

Is Jon Miller mentioned? The Baseball HOF announcer is from Hayward.

Census information
Made a correction of african amercian and white populations. Somebody incorrectly inserted 20% for African American and 32% for white..Darwinzape 21:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I verified the anon edit today. Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Template cleanup
I've cleaned up the hayward template. some items removed are: silver star veterans park (ipn)-cannot find info on it. Holiday Bowl-defunct bowling alley of minor historical interest (at least so far). Edwin Markham Elementary School, replaced by its replacement school. Buffalo Bills Brewery, first CA brewpub but no article♥. links to AC transit and Bart for west hayward may refer to the test yards and training yards, which dont have articles. Bret Hart Middle School, and Newman Park, no article yet, minor. hayward public library, no article. Impact Academy♥, placed a brief mention here. Fairway park, minor park. Im mentioning them here only to encourage other editors to first create articles for these subjects. if they turn out to be more notable than they seem, we can add them to the template. I also want to merge the "hayward attractions" template, but that can be discussed at the template talk pages. ok, ive removed the attractions template, as its just clutter. in that template were the following subjects without articles: Hayward Area Historical Society♥, and the McConaghy House. so two more potential articles. (♥ next to subjects added to article)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Template merge completed.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Places to add
Chapel of the Chimes, Lone Tree, Mount Eden and Holy Sepulchre cemetaries♥. Taper Park, Hayward Golf courses♥. St. Rose Hospital♥, Kaiser hospital♥. Green Belt Park♥. hayward salt flats. East Avenue Park. John f. Kennedy park/Mcconaghy house. hayward memorial park/hayward plunge♥. buffalo bills if its truly the first brewpub to open in california since prohibition♥(to downtown article). sulphur creek nature center♥. Hayward Hall of Justice, hayward police dept and jail♥(to courthouse article). Eden Congregational Church♥. Ron Simms' cycle shop♥ (he's actually quite a notable bike guy). There is also a large, unidentified historic property on Hesperian which i cant find info on, its not mconaghy house, just north of Chabot college. Oh, this is the Cornelius Mohr estate,, which is near the Hermann Mohr house, which has an image in the article. (links placed around articles created, ♥ next to subjects added to this article) Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Images
Wikimedia commons has some very old stereoscopic images, that had not been categorized as related to hayward. they are now. The two distinct images would be good here.75.61.135.68 (talk) 06:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

New city report
2010 city report is available at. data incorporated.(mercurywoodrose)76.245.46.57 (talk) 08:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Money magazine
minor mention, best places to retire,, not sure where this would go if anywhere(mercurywoodrose)76.245.46.57 (talk) 07:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Correction, this is just a database listing, Hayward did NOT make any of the lists. Cant be mentioned in the body of the article, but may qualify as an external link for its store of data.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Moved from article
could not find source for this, so i put it here for a researcher to find in a print source, if true:

In the late 1950s, Asian Americans began moving to a new housing development in south Hayward off Ruus Road. The developer was willing to sell new homes to Asian Americans, despite housing discrimination against minorities in California at that time.

Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Ive found a ref for this, at, so i may add this.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:53, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Images
This article would benefit from better images than the current crop, which is primarily aerial views indistinguishable from any other aerial view of any city on earth. photos on WP/WC should be information rich, which these arent. I plan to add images later this month (and i know im talking to myself here, but others MAY occasionally drop by to edit here)(mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 22:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

bio refs
work in progress, ref tags empty, will complete.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Courtney Devine
All i can find is this imdb page,, which is not a reliable source for her birthplace, and which doesnt show enough notability as a porn star to have an article created. also on iafd, but this may not be reliable for birthplace as well. IF she becomes notable enough for an article or article section, and we can confirm her birth place, she can be added here, but not before.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Notables
from moreau catholic high article: from hayward high: I havent checked thoroughly for duplicates. 75.61.132.26 (talk) 06:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Cindy Chavez, vice mayor of San Jose
 * Brian Copeland, author and comedian
 * Darren Lewis, Major League Baseball player
 * Joe Trippi, political campaign strategist
 * Chauncey Bailey, journalist, editor-in-chief of The Oakland Post
 * Jeff Barnes, National Football League linebacker, Los Angeles and Oakland Raiders from 1977 to 1987
 * C. J. Brown, soccer player, Major League Soccer, Chicago Fire
 * D. J. Carrasco, MLB baseball player, Kansas City Royals
 * Michael Kearney, anthropology professor and author
 * Jon Miller, ESPN and Major League Baseball announcer
 * Landon Curt Noll, astronomer, cryptographer and mathematician
 * Don Wakamatsu, Manager, Seattle Mariners, first Asian-American Major League Baseball manager, Bench Coach Oakland A's, Texas Rangers
 * Adrian Ward, cornerback, UTEP, Minnesota Vikings
 * Andre Ward, Olympic gold medalist, 2004 Olympics boxing champion
 * Michael Darren Young, outfielder and designated hitter, Major League Baseball
 * Roy Steele, Oakland Athletics Public Address announcer

Mohr properties
Cornelius Mohr estate, and Hermann Mohr home, both notable, one has an image in article.(mercurywoodrose)12.125.80.214 (talk) 16:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Mickopedia
They give the city motto as "Heart of the bleedin' Bay", which might actually work...76.232.10.26 (talk) 04:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Good Article review request
Talk:Hayward, California/GA1 is a link to a GA review, deemed incomplete by other editors besides myself. the content doesnt belong here, as it would then appear to have been completed already. I'm providing the link for historic purposes only. As the GA review requester (and a major editor of the article), i cant comment on whether this review is complete, but i do know that the review, if not deemed complete, doesnt belong on the talk page in full. thanks to all who have paid any attention to date to this article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 * This article has a few significant and obvious issues that need to be resolved. It's full of "citation needed" tags, and the lead does not sufficiently cover the breadth of the article - Peripitus (Talk) 11:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. now i have some idea of how to proceed with improvements to the article.very helpful, if daunting.(mercurywoodrose)108.94.0.199 (talk) 05:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Obscure reference works
For anyone researching the history of hayward, these titles were used in the first edits to the article: Mt. Eden, Cradle of the Salt Industry in California by John Sandoval, published by Mt. Eden Historical Publishers, Hayward; Hayward ... the First 100Years by Eden Writers, Florence Carr Randall, editor, published by the Hayward Centennials Committee. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Name history
It may well be impossible to actually disentangle the actual explanations here, but I did remove a bit that I am quite sure is false -- that the name 'Haywood' was used 'because it was not legal to name a post office after a living person'. There are numerous counterexamples, e.g. Annette, California, and my own hometown, Janesville, Wisconsin, which the Postmaster General indubitably named after the postmaster, Henry Janes, even though he had submitted the name 'Blackhawk' (since there was already a post office by that name in Wisconsin Territory). The explanation for 'Haywood' seems to have been there since what this article history calls a "student essay" was pasted in back in 2004, but is not supported by the reference later appended (Durham's). That book, searchable on Amazon, indicates only the name changes without an explanation.

If I can suggest some possibilities, with an eye toward local research of archives, it may be that either the Post Office/Postmaster General (who in my interpretation had sole final authority on these matters) had a duplicate name, or misread the name, or any of various possible rationales involving that bureaucracy; the name 'Haywood' was chosen to suggest a shady, attractive location for other settlers (which was often a factor in these sorts of decisions); or another entity, perhaps a railroad, may have had a naming conflict and that spilled over. It's also *just* possible at this point in time that spelling was still a little flexible. In any event, it was not for the reason stated, and there is no source backing that statement up, so it had no place in the article. --Dhartung | Talk 21:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your edit. when the Hayward Area Historical Society opens its new offices, i will go there to research the city, provide references for the history. of course, removing any unsourced material is always acceptable.i had left a lot of the history here as i had no way to confirm it, but i probably could have removed this as well: i guess it sounded so assertive, i thought it must be backed up somewhere.(user:Mercurywoodrose)99.101.138.144 (talk) 06:28, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Climate zones
I removed some info on USDA and Sunset Magazine climate zones as unsourced, but i need to add a source on its mediterranean climate, which i found in another article on the bay area.

Hayward has a Mediterranean climate,is a USDA Z10A and Sunset z17, and contains microclimates, both of which are features of the greater Bay Area.

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Wineries
I know they're all red, but I'm the process of making at least stubs for them all, so please don't start deleting just yet. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:20, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

 * Pretty much entire Wine section moved to Livermore Valley. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 22:46, Mar 8, 2005 (UTC)

Tara Kemp
Did Tara Kemp live and/or go to school in Livemore? I remember hearing her name alot when I lived there. --Mjrmtg 01:34, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Population
I dont know who keeps editing my correct population but stop! The pop is nit 80,000. If your going off the population signs on the freeways THEY ARE OLD AND OUTDATED. The CURRENT pop is 104,845! Stop editing it for whatever your purposes are! Livermores popualtion was that low in the 1990s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John2011 (talk • contribs)
 * As I stated on your talk page, the population count in the article cites a verifiable source. If you wish to update the population count, you must change the citation to cite a reliable and verifiable source. A street sign on the freeway does not qualify, although you may be able to contact the transportation authority to see where they received the number. You may also wish to investigate the U.S. Census Bureau web site to see if they have updated population numbers for the city. At the moment the numbers come from the City of Livermore web site. --Mperry (talk) 05:07, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
 * A few more thoughts on the population. The U.S. Census Bureau has Livermore's population listed at 73,345 for 2000. Their projection of the population for 2007 is 79,532. (Source). The City of Livermore web site has the population listed as 81,443 (Source) and that number and source are what is cited in the article. It's likely that the City of Livermore has access to more up-to-date data that makes their number more accurate.  That's why their number is used in the article. --Mperry (talk) 19:44, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Clean-up
This page is very, very poorly written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.164.3.133 (talk) 18:54, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Then do something about it (rewrite it) instead of complaining. --Mjrmtg (talk) 01:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

 * I cleaned up this page a little bit. Kylee20051 (talk) 15:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Tri-Cities
I honestly can hardly tell where Livermore ends and Pleasanton begins; it's a little easier to tell the break between them and Dublin. Should something be mentioned about how these cities seem to be melding together as they grow outward? 71.142.139.114 (talk) 20:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I believe thats a relative common occurrence, at least in the bay area, as city centers and surrounding suburbs begin to merge, and the rural space between cities shrinks to nothing. If it was particularly true for livermore/pleasanton and no other bay area cities, id say yes, but its not.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:39, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

History
I was fascinated to learn today that the oil and gas I saw flowing in Altamont Creek in North Livermore is caused by natural seepage. A little Internet research turned up information about gas and oil drilling in and around Livermore. Here's some links to information in case anyone wants to add this to the history section. I have some photos of the seepage in the creek too. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 04:24, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
 * http://certmapper.cr.usgs.gov/data/noga95/prov8/text/prov8.pdf
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=v3LOAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA570&lpg=PA570&dq=north+livermore+oil&source=bl&ots=kHEQ2gcK5i&sig=KW63pKc9bBFvTU5KKipmrOoFr6c&hl=en&ei=-3YRTcfAO4OqsAPr4emwAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=north%20livermore%20oil&f=false
 * http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jR7Wauw6ljcJ:search.datapages.com/data/specpubs/basinar1/data/a128/a128/0001/0300/0339.htm+%22hospital+nose+gas+field%22&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Top Employers way wrong
Speaking as someone born and raised in Livermore, I can assure you the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory is by far the top employer in the city. It has over 10,000 people working at it, the majority of them Livermore residents. I have no idea why the source doesn't mention it, but the list of employers in general is way, way wrong to not even have them in the top 10. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sephalon1 (talk • contribs) 07:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I believe the source only cites private sector employees, but there should most definitely be a notation showing the size of the workforce at LLL and how they are the major employer, citing some other source.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:32, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup
Here's an interesting point: the light bulb is claimed as the citys sole world record, but in the next paragraph, the LLL has claim to the worlds largest laser, the NIF. so is it one record or two? does the laser count, as its at lll and not on city land? This article needs (and i have started to give) major cleanup.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:06, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Light Bulb
Way back in the 1960s I and several other young hooligans used to grab rocks from the railroad bed and heave them as hard and accurately as possible, aiming for the red light bulb in its semi-protective cage next to the small door on the side of the main fire station. We kept our distance so we would have a head start if any fireman seeing us decided to apprehend the future juvenile delinquents. That light bulb was not nearly as famous back then... obviously not since it was in an outside receptacle with minimal protection. Our lack of success is also obvious. I wonder if we had succeeded if possible fame and fortune would have been ours; especially with the advent of the Web. Of course, if such an event occurred in today's "new and improved" USA we would be labeled as internal terrorists and labeled as a "hate group" by some. Sniff.Obbop (talk) 16:27, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Districts - Springtown
"Originally conceived as a retirement community in the early 1960s, Springtown has many of the city's hotels, as well as luxury homes and a public golf course."

Actually, out of 20+ hotels in Livermore, only 4 are in Springtown, and while there are some large and relatively new homes in Springtown, the luxury homes are in completely the other end of town. Springtown does contain the mentioned public golf course (9 holes only, not a full course). Onesweettart (talk) 03:16, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Senior Services
Livermore is sadly lacking in senior services. The recreation and parks department closed the Senior Center and put them into an alcove in the new Robert Livermore Center.

Removed from lede
"Its south side, home to local vineyards, has developed several executive subdivisions near Ruby Hill." the second half refers to either a local hill, not otherwise referenced, or to a gated luxury community/private golf course. I dont think the gated community deserves to be in the lede. (pretty ritzy places, though, the one percent must love it there)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:24, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Requested edit
Our request has to do with the text: Today, most of Livermore's over forty wineries are represented by the The Wine Group that has administrative offices just outside of Livermore, at the Concannon Vineyard on Tesla Road.

I believe you may have confused the Livermore Valley Winegrowers Association with The Wine Group. Also there are over 50 wineries in the Livermore Valley... we are requesting that the above sentence be edited to read: Today, most of Livermore Valley's fifty olus wineries are represented by the Livermore Valley Winegrowers Association.

If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us. Thank you!

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 * As an alternative to adding this unsourced information, I have removed the info about The Wine Group. -- Diannaa (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

recent news
"Livermore golf coach Andrew Nisbet is sentenced to 27 years in prison on charges of molesting three of his juvenile students, and then plotting to kill them while being held in jail "

I think this is significant enough to warrant a mention here. (this is taken from the Portal:San Francisco Bay Area, where i added it)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:22, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

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Climate
The mean temperature for the year somehow exceeds all the average temperatures for the months in Livermore. Can anybody confirm that the calculations for the weather were done correctly?

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Livermore Heritage Guild
Livermore Heritage Guild may be helpful when expanding Livermore-related articles. It has historical content, government documents, and even newspapers that may be really helpful. Kori das 📣 20:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

History Subsections
I am considering rephrasing the history section to include a sub-header reference for the time period before the 1700s. There is quite a bit of variation among Bay Area cities, San Jose uses "pre-Colombian", Oakland uses "Ohlone" and San Francisco makes no distinction. If anyone in the Wiki local community, I would like to get some feedback about preferences. Patziteypaz (talk) 05:32, 15 February 2022 (UTC) Hello Wiki Livermore community, I just edited the History Section and added a Pre-contact header. In this section I identified the tribal groups who occupied the area of livermore at the time of contact. Recognizing the tribal lands is a common feature in city articles, however this section was recently edited out? What might be a way to talk about Livermore history that is inclusive of local tribes?Patziteypaz (talk) 02:32, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Nottingham?
Livermore is linked from the disambiguation page for Nottingham. There's only a single mention of this name in this article, linking to an out-of-print reference without explanation, and the only mention that comes up on a basic search besides the page itself is Nottingham Cellars, a locally winery establishment, founded in 2009. Curious if anyone has local knowledge supporting this appellation. JavonFair (talk) 02:42, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

 * See this revision in the history. There used to be some info about the post office (not the town) being named Nottingham. The Livermore Heritage Guild backs that it operated out of his home, but the citation for it being called Nottingham erroneously seems to come from either the citation in the lead, or the two newspapers linked. I don't think that the town itself was every actually called Nottingham in any case. Mrfoogles (talk) 20:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Piedmont, California

Education
"In particular, cost-benefit analyses will reveal that, for many households, Piedmont schools make more economic sense than private schooling." This sounds like it was written by a creative Piedmont real estate agent. Bias? Citation? The whole paragraph is very un-encyclopedic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.218.216 (talk) 07:19, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

This can be largely attributed to the dedicated population of parents who have resources to pay higher prices for housing so that their children can attend Piedmont schools instead of private schools. Is this sentence suggesting personal dedication on the part of Piedmont's parents, or just saying that their money is legally dedicated to the school district? If it's the former, the word "dedicated" should be struck; if the latter, the sentence needs rephrasing.

I find this section pretty offensive and poorly conceived/poorly written overall. Seems like the facts are: parcel tax, additional resources for public schools beyond neighbors' funding streams, excellent scores, many private school options nearby as well. But I find the overtly commercial and un-informative link to a realtor's website as reference #1 to be even more offensive. I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be non-commercial? A Piedmont resident and first-time commentor24.23.130.37 05:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

edit war over liberal/disapproval/criticism
Edit war over: ''It is an extremely liberal city known for its disapproval of conservatism. A liberal majority runs the city proudly and partisanly, receiving much criticism from residents''. As noted with similar edits on Talk:Piedmont High School (California) this controversial statement needs verification from reliable sources as to the elements: Noted sample google news archive edits at the Piedmont High talk page. Zedla (talk) 20:55, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) "extremely liberal...known for disapproval"
 * 2) "liberal majority ... proudly and partisanly"
 * 3) "much criticism from residents"

 * The edit war is over for a second time, for the reasons above. Saying that it doesn't need a source because it becomes fact when one person says it is not good enough, because it breaks both citation and notability policies. Please discontinue adding this information. WHSL (Talk) 10:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Past Notable Residents
What was noted in the article was:

"Author Jack London lived in Piedmont, and Kennedy's Secretary of Defense Robert S. McNamara grew up in Piedmont, where his family lived on Ranleigh Way."

After checking the 1930 census and various Alameda County voter registrations through 1940, the McNamara's lived on Annerley Road, not on Ranleigh.

Highlandclan (talk) 05:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

A Liberal City?
Your most recent edit to the page went something like this:

''It is an extremely liberal city known for its disapproval of conservatism. A liberal majority runs the city proudly and partisanly, receiving much criticism from residents.''

I, as the reader, have no idea whether this is a true statement. So, I want to check it. OH NOES! There is no citation or reference. What you need is to reference the relevant political parties in the city and their majorities for the first statement. That will not be too hard: it is a fact, and usually voting in Liberals implies a dislike of Conservatives. Alternatively just run an online questionairre (a little bit dubious). For the second statement, if you are adamant it should go in get an impartial friend to go out and questionairre people on the street: there is no other fair way of doing it. It is inconvenient, but nothing else can be done. I realise my answer doesn't help much, but it is the most factual way of going about this. Elemesh (talk) 10:49, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * Exactly. One must source information on Wikipedia, especially if it may be controversial. However, the questionairre is a very questionable source... (by the way, I made the quoted text italics so the whole excerpt can be seen). WHSL (Talk) 10:54, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

HiHi, your answer actually helps a lot. One question: Would it be acceptable to say "It is a city known for its disapproval of conservatism."? Grammatically, that is correct as long as one person knows it for that. Since I know it for its disapproval, that phrase would be correct, even it it did not disapprove of conservatism. For part two, would it be okay to say "receiving criticism from residents" since I personally know residents who criticize it for that reason, that would be true. How could I cite that? If I follow your directions and we agree and I post it up there, would there be any way to guarantee it doesn't get deleted. I am willing to put work into this, if you are willing to help. :) READY?! (That is not shouting; it's excited!)76.102.193.102 (talk) 10:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

This isn't really a matter of grammar. The first statement is fine, as long as you refer to the fact that the ruling council of the city (or whatever it happens to be) are primarily Liberals. Saying it receives criticism from some residents as long as you hav some assurance it is not original research - how you would get this is up to you. If you do all of that, I think the outcome is good enough to stay there until the city is no longer Liberal. Elemesh (talk) 11:11, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I am going to change it now; I don't mean to do any vandalism. Feel free to delete or fix my edit if it is not what you meant. I mean no wrong. Ready? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.193.102 (talk) 11:13, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Thank you Elemesh, if you approve this, is there any way to "lock" this article so people do not delete those two sentences every day? Or can you make that edit irreversible? If you don't approve it, that's fine; please clarify what I did not comprehend. Thanks. 76.102.193.102 (talk) 11:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I have changed it slightly. I am still not content with it though - it needs sources badly. See what you can come up with, but I cannot guarantee that in the mean-time an editor will not come storming in and decimate it. Elemesh (talk) 11:26, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

I know for a fact that it consists of 60-70% percent voters who supported Hussein Obama, but I did that before and a Wikipedian argued that has nothing to do with being liberal. 76.102.193.102 (talk) 11:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Well you need to link to that fact or a similar one. Then everything is ok: if you vote for a Liberal president, logic suggests you are liberal. Elemesh (talk) 11:30, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I'll try to find that online from a reputable source and link it. What if I don't find that. I know exactly where and when I read it. It was the second issue of the "Piedmont Post" after the election. I am sure it was published 11/19/2008. As far as I know, only county results are posted online. The county may be even more liberal than Piedmont. Thanks. 76.102.193.102 (talk) 11:33, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Newspaper is fine - it is a reliable source. I am not sure how you reference them, but it is doubtless possible. Try asking at the help desk. Elemesh (talk) 11:35, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * I saw the edits, and I'm not going to remove them for now, even though I am obviously displeased they were made. Your disregard for sourcing is unbelievable. And no, there's no reason to protect this article, and there's no way to make that edit irreversible. That is not what this wiki is about. I will eventually remove the statement if no citation continues to be provided. Of course, if one is provided, I will not remove the statement. Newspapers are fine. I would also like you to stop making unhelpful remarks on my page. WHSL (Talk) 11:37, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

WHSL, I am going to leave you with this. I agree the current situation is not ideal, but if correct they are useful encyclopediac content and should be kept, if referenced. Elemesh (talk) 11:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * My argument isn't against the statement's inclusion. It is the inability to provide a source for it, and the IP's previous refusal to acknowledge the reasoning behind sourcing, that really annoys me. Of course, if a source is provided, then I have no reason to remove encyclopedic content. WHSL (Talk) 11:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

 * This whole argument around justifying the use of the term "liberal" confuses me. The ENTIRE Bay Area is extremely liberal.  If you're going by one newspaper article (which is unavailable online, but I understand still a valid reference) and an election results PDF (which agrees that the ENTIRE BAY AREA is extremely liberal), it just seems like a moot point.  By the logic given, shouldn't the opening sentence for all cities in the SF Bay Area contain something about being "extremely liberal"?  What makes Piedmont unique in this respect?  Even the article for Berkeley doesn't mention the word "liberal" until the second paragraph.  So perhaps it is the conspicuousness/prominence of it that is causing the problem. 99.39.0.1 (talk) 17:42, 8 April 2009 (UTC) jonathan.

I've removed the "well known for its disapproval of Conservatism" line as unsourced OR. I've also removed the voting map ref as OR. Showing that a county voted heavily in favor of Barack Obama in 2008 doesn't show them as liberal, it just shows that they voted heavily in favor of the candidate. I haven't removed the liberal line in the intro yet because I haven't tried to check the article yet. Right now I'm guessing it's more OR based on voting for Barack Obama, but completing the source by filling out cite news including at least the specific article being mentioned would help me in assuming good faith here. Right now I'm thinking this is the same POV pushing that User:(logged in as well as from various IPs) has been doing, both here and at Piedmont Unified School District and Piedmont High School (California). -Optigan13 (talk) 01:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I was involved at the PHS edit war and wholeheartedly agree that a city that favored Barack Obama in the 2008 election does not constitute an "extremely liberal" city that is known for its "disapproval of conservatism." The only encyclopedic, non-POV statement I can see that source backing up would be something along the lines of "X percent of Piedmont residents voted for Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election." One might even be able to stretch the information to support a statement like "Piedmont residents supported Democratic Party candidates in the 2008 general election." and your IP addresses - DO NOT take my words out of context, as you did on the PHS discussion. I now see why your RFA failed miserably. KuyaBriBri Talk 16:12, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've had enough. I tried to resolve this without getting admins involved when I became involved at the PHS article but this is ridiculous. Please see WP:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. KuyaBriBri Talk 17:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the extremely liberal line(diff). It did not specify an article or page number to verify the source. I had initially hoped would specify what article, but seeing as he's been indef blocked again I've removed it. If anyone wants to specify the article or page being used, or something where I could try and find the article to check that is isn't further improper synthesis feel free to let me know. -Optigan13 (talk) 19:54, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Notable residents
i added names from the Category for people from piedmont. some of the following names already in the article have no references here or in their articles that say they are from piedmont: al davis, tre cool, billie joe armstrong, peter docter, country joe, dean butler austin tichenor f wayne valley james gamble. also, some other names not in the category are also not refd. i left the info standing wihtout refs, as my purpose was to remove the inappropriate link to the category. all unrefed names should be refd or removed.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 04:17, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Dipper &Mabel Pines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.101.152.13 (talk) 02:33, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Pines twins
Aside from the last episode where the bus pull up to the sign, is there any other earlier episodes of Gravity Falls which specifies this as their home? 184.145.18.50 (talk) 19:50, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Dipper's bag said Piedmont in the opening theme ever since the very first episode. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.101.152.13 (talk) 01:01, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Climate section needed
This article lacks a climate section, which any good city article will have. Minimum and maximum temperatures, average rainfall and snowfall, records, that sort of thing. I am not qualified to add it myself, but if anyone is, please do so. Thanks! 1980fast (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Cover pic
The main pic on this page is Henry J. Kaiser Elementary School and Highlands Country Club in Oakland, several miles from Piedmont 135.180.194.138 (talk) 20:30, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

I've updated the picture to be a house of local historic note, but it's still not a great photo, and I don't have a better one myself it seems. If anyone wants to take a better photo, something of the city hall / fire house area would probably be a nice photo. Tschuy (talk) 01:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:Pleasanton, California

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Notes to myself

 * More detail on the area's watershed can be found here.
 * Add Iron Horse Trail
 * Add city government info and history like when Pleasanton first started directly electing the mayor (1986).
 * Add Tulare Lake
 * Add municipal park info, Pleasanton Ridge and related issues (ie. Hayward Hotel)
 * Expand culture section, add Firehouse Arts Center, public art projects
 * Flood of '55
 * Commons search http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=pleasanton%2C+california&ns6=1&fulltext=Search
 * Add Alisal (from Aliso)

Removal of sourced content
Why on earth has someone completely wiped away an entire historic cultural section (Architecture) from this article and made the page BLAND and uninformative? The page used to look beautiful and interesting, but now it makes Pleasanton look like another uninteresting cookie-cutter surburban hellscape with no history. Why don't you finish the job and remove the rest of the Arts and Culture items because they're not on some notable registry of historic cultural activities? Unbelievable! Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 19:50, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:San Leandro, California

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Eurocentrism
Oh, the writing on this page is SOOOO Eurocentric - if that's the right word, I'm trying to say it's written from a european/european-Amerrican viewpoint rather than an Indigineous Peoples/ Native American viewpoint. For example, The "History" section starts out "San Leandro was first discovered on March 20, 1772 by Spanish soldier..." but for anyone who has studied California, it's obvious that the whole bay area was "heavily populated", in terms of populations of Indiginous Peoples of the time, and going back several hundred if not thousands of years. I guess it's a question of Wikipedia style, and perhaps I should be looking at Manual_of_Style instead of shooting my virtual mouth off here... but as an (originally) American phenomenon, how does Wikipedia as an entity view the question of eurocentricity in articles such as this one? (Oh, so I did look, and it does not seem to be addressed... hmmm). I'm not quite presumptuous enough to edit the page on my own to try to remove or even mitigate the eurocentric angle, but I find the topic interesting enough that I am jotting it down here... I'll "watch" this discussion page and see if anything comes of it. Tzf 18:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * you are correct TZF. article could use more info on Native American settlement and use. i shall try to find something, but it may take some time. Newarknanny 18:46, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Seems to be largely copyvio
The entirety of the first 5 paragraphs of the history section (save 1 sentence about natives) appears to be copied in toto from http://www.ci.san-leandro.ca.us/slcityhistory.html which specifically claims copyright to its content. 71.231.107.188 03:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

San Leandro, California is in United States?
Has California moved? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.142.213.199 (talk) 03:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

Schools Section
This section should be mostly eliminated by the creation of seperate entries for each of the high schools. I do not know much of anything about these schools, so am not the right person to do so.--Fizbin 14:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Honesty about San Leandro High School
Whoever has been maintaining this page is mis-representing the issues at SLHS. It is an inaccurate picture to only allow the "glowing" things to be presented. You should also include the statistics which shows the issues they face. Omitting these challenges is akin to allowing a drunk to ignore his problem. It is only when the truth is known that the situation will improve.

Copyright Concern
It looks like the history setoin was copied from the City of San Leandro website at. It should be rewritten and the information broadened to reflect something more than this mediocre writing. This page is also poorly referenced and a bit biased in some comments about racism etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.119.90.98 (talk) 06:10, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and tagged this with the copyvio tag since it's been raised twice now on the discussion page but the copyrighted content is still there intact. I checked and it is indeed copied verbatim from the city website.  The city has copyrighted its page and reserved all rights so there is no rationale for the content's continued presence on this page. The article has other issues, including sourcing and NPOV, but removing the copyvio is a start. ferretstew 05:03, 17 July 2009 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferretstew (talk • contribs)
 * Thank you for taking care of that. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:56, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

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Restrictive covenants
The material in this article on restrictive covenants (also known as racial covenants) and the history of san leandro was almost entirely unsourced, and was highly biased in its coverage. Anyone who wants to add back any of the statements i have removed needs to have sources from reliable, notable, 3rd party print or online publications, to justify the assertions. In addition, as the removed content was clearly taking a WP:POV in favor of such covenants, any sources which show such support for covenants would have to be balanced by sources which showed opposition to such covenants, so as to give due weight to both sides, both as they existed at the time, and how the debate is viewed today. Please do not simply add back the material without sourcing. I read the book "not a genuine black man", and while the book may have information on the details of the covenants (i dont recall the details given in it), it most assuredly did not take a positive approach to the covenants, which was the impression given by having long paragraphs with only 1 reference at the end, which may only have been a source for some statistics. any sourcing from that book would have to give page numbers, with inline citations for each statement. i left in the bare bones decade by decade population breakdown, with last statement needing a citation, but presumably correct. I have placed a tag cautioning editors about this controversial subject on the talk page. If material is added back without sourcing, i will remove it again, and if added back with sources, but without due weight being considered, I will add a tag to the article itself, but its not an issue now that i have removed it.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:38, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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No Bosco?
This seems like a serious omission.--NapoliRoma (talk) 16:32, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Interesting how the majority of the article (beyond the census Data) is unsourced, yet Bosco has two references 72.0.131.210 (talk) 16:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Tone tag?
Any clarification (or even better, editing) on what the tone issues are?--NapoliRoma (talk) 06:03, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Tag is long gone.--NapoliRoma (talk) 02:54, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Sunol vs. Suñol
For clarification, Suñol is a proper noun. As such, it should be referred to with the tilday, just as Antonio Suñol's name was. Whether or not it is in usage is irrelevant and more a product of printing technologies in the US up until recently than anything else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.233.180.62 (talk) 00:17, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

 * Whether or not "Suñol" is appropriate in some other context, it is not the name of the town. It may be appropriate to add the tilde to Antonio Suñol's name in the article, but it is not correct to change the name of the town itself.
 * Similarly, the nearby city of Pleasanton is named after Colonel Alfred Pleasonton. You should not change the name of the city in the article to "Pleasonton".  Regards, NapoliRoma (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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