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Arman Sanchez is the present governor of Batangas for 2004-2007. Hermilando Mandanas is Congressman. --203.177.177.69 11:31, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Re: Sections "Batangas Universities" and "Shopping Centers"
Do we really need these sections here? Doesn't it look like advertising? I'm removing those sections. Feel free to revert if you think the sections are acceptable. --124.6.182.190 12:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am 124.6.182.190. I forgot to login, sorry. --Joseph Montalbo 12:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Rip off?
vs. -- Howard   the   Duck  16:50, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

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This article may be outdated for current events and issues and further lack of reliable references. Available or suitable images for this article must be concern also. User: Kampfgruppe will help to fix those problems. Just wait for it may last too long. Kampfgruppe (talk) 15:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

"First class province" in introductory section
I'm wondering about the text "first class province" used to describe Batangas in the introduction to the article. Does this phrase actually refer to an established distinction between different kinds of provinces, such as first-, second-, third class and so on? Or is it, as I tend to suspect, a non-objective insertion of praise for Batangas that is out of place in an encyclopedic article like this?

Kiwehtin (talk) 22:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)Chris Miller, Montreal Canada

paul the great —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.223.71 (talk) 11:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

 * I was thinking the same thing. This needs to be removed unless anyone can references to a province class system.  --Khatores (talk) 23:32, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Laiya, nexts to Boracay
Batangas is popularly known for its best destinations. One of those is Laiya, located at the Municipality of San Juan, Batangas. Its long beach shore and its white sand make everyone's favorite. You have nothing to do but amaze and compare Laiya to Boracay. Laiya can give you experiences that you are looking for. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.127.223.71 (talk) 11:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Split History Section into a separate article?
This article is much too long. I would suggest removing the history section and creating a separate article. --Bruce Hall (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Written like a promotional flyer
This article reads like it was ripped word-for-word from some provincial promotional material. It should be re-written so that the tone is more objective and fitting with the standard are an encyclopedia. Unfortunately, this is a common affliction of many of the articles on Philippine provinces and municipalities. --Bruce Hall (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

The Maragtas and the 10 Datus - Fact or Fiction?
The Philippine educational system and the subsequent history being taught in Philippine textbooks are at the minimum - western oriented and at the most - racially biased.

The core idea in the current version of Philippine history is " the Philippines was a group of Islands that were ruled by Rajah's, Datu and chieftains - independent of each other and that the Filipinos did not have a civilization or political interaction with the rest of the world until Magellan came"

Similarly - the Oral sources of history have been discounted as hoax due to the lack of hard documentation. Consequently, - the Filipino historian do not do research on leads supplied by these oral histories.

In the case of the Maragtas - it has been erroneously labeled as a hoax. But what is the Maragtas??

The Maragtas are a collection of Oral stories that was compiled by Pedro Alcantara Monteclaro and published in 1907. On Monteclaro's foreword he said that the stories are remnants of stories being told by the elders of his community. The Maragtas saw limited use by historians due to the espoused view by William Henry Scott that the Maragtas is a fabrication by Pedro Monteclaro.

William Henry Scott's assertion that the Maragtas is a pure fabrication has to be critically evaluated. Scott has claimed that the Maragtas cannot be supported by written documentation. However, Scott has failed to evaluate the contents of the Maragtas scientifically and has failed to grasp the Maragtas contextually (i.e. based on culture, customs and modes of transmission of knowledge by Filipinos).

Let us then take a look at the merits of the Maragtas.

First,

The Maragtas according to Pedro Monteclaro is a record of "oral" histories. As such it has no written documentation. The idea of oral histories was not prevalent or given weight during the Spanish and American colonial times given that western historical tradition usually relied on written histories to transmit knowledge. Malays on the other hand used chants and epic to transmit knowledge rather than putting important histories on paper.

The reason for this is that paper and plant materials tend to rot and degrade faster in the humid and hot climates of south east asia. Thus the ancient Hiligaynon developed their history in an oral tradition by creating the "Binukot". The binukot are women of royal parentage who's main function in society is to study and memorize the history of her people. They are not allowed to work and are supported by the people of the community. In fact, binukot are married into the richest families who have proven their ability to support a binukot. Thus binukots are the living encyclopedia's of the hiligaynon nation.

the same oral tradition existed in south east asia prior to the arrival of the europeans. In fact the empires of Madjapahit and Sri Vijaya would have remained unproven and undiscovered if not for the temple complex of Borobodur. Recent knowledge about the extent and the workings of Madjapahit are mostly taken from epics since there are no surviving written documents.

The prevalence of Oral traditions vs written has not been taken into consideration by Henry Scott.

Second,

The description of the courts, royal titles and the politics of the ten datu's can be correlated with actual events.

The story of the ten datu's happened during the 12th century at a time of transition in the royal courts and a time when Sultan Makatunaw (this is not his real name - but this is a an allegorical name - makatunaw meaning - he who dissolves i.e. destroyer) ascended the throne. This new Sultan ws seen by the rest of the royal family as evil and immoral. He was further hated because he desired and engineered his marriage to Dayang Kapinangan who at the time was already bethrothed to another prince - Datu Sumakwel.

This contest between Makatunaw and Sumakwel prompted the Grand Vizier - Datu Poteh to mediate and he then advised Sumakwel and the other princes to take Kapinangan and flee the empire. Poteh said that this is what the God Munsud Buralakaw (the God's of the seas, politics and men) wanted.

The ten Datu's assaulted the bridal train, stole Kapinangan and fled to Sulu. They then sailed north and became the legendary founding fathers of the Bisaya and the Tausug.

When we evaluate this story and match this to other oral histories the following records matched. a. the oral history of the Bisaya in borneo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisaya_(Borneo)tells of the Sulu people drowning the son of Awang Alak Betatar a hundred years before the Bisaya in Borneo converted to Islam and a hundred years before the Sultanate of Brunei was created. b. the Oral Histories of the Badjao also correlated (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Badjao) to the story that a princes was about to be Married to the royalty of Brunei but was instead stolen.

Both oral histories occur at roughly the same period in the 12th century.

The royal titles used such as Datu are are also similar to the royal title used in the rest of South East Asia.

The title Datu Poteh (or Patih - since in hiligaynon/hiniray.a /a/ can be pronounced as /uh/) was said to be the right hand/prime minister of the Sultan - this corresponds to the royal title "senapati" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senapati or Rakryan Mapatih or Patih Hamangkubhumi in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majapahit. (in hiligaynon - "pati" means to obey)

Also, the concept that the flight of the Datu's was not only political but also religious must also be evaluated. The priest reminded the datu's about their kasugtanan (agreement) with Buralakaw. It is helpful to note that the ancient priest of Madjapahit were called Dharmmadhyaksa ring Kasewan (State's highest Hindu Shivaist priest) and Dharmmadhyaksa ring Kasogatan (State's highest Buddhist priest). The datu's home nation was called "bornay/barunay" which is the old name of Brunei (how did Monteclaro come up with that name in 1907 when interest in South East Asian history was minimal is a question we need to ask as well). From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brunei "It was renamed "Barunai" in the 14th Century, possibly influenced by the Sanskrit word varunai (वरुण), meaning "seafarers", later to become "Brunei".[citation needed] The word "Borneo" is of the same origin."

The Name Varunai also has its origins in the God Varuna (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varuna) who has corresponding qualities with the God Munsad Buralakaw who was the God of men and politics. The God Buralakaw was the sea comet (comets or light belive coming from the sea going to heaven). his twin is the God Bulalakaw.

It is worth mentioning that Pedro Monteclaro was able to show these traditions/terms in his book in 1907. The Madjapahit (borobodur) and Sri Vijayan empires were only rediscovered during the 1920's. More than two decades after Monteclaro see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Majapahit.

It is time for historians to take a look at the Maragtas as a historically based account (although it has made into a legend). Doing so might give us insights in how interkingdom politics and alliances were forged and broken during the pre spanish period. The philippines were more of the greek states i.e. one nation with different polities rather than just unrelated - self contained kingdoms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.227.212 (talk) 04:53, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Who was the first governor of Camarines Sur, Philippines?
Shake Magat was not the first governor of Camarines Sur, Philippines. The creator of this page used the official website of Camarines Sur as his source but how it came about he still had the wrong information is puzzling. George Curry was the first governor of Camarines Sur/. Please see other sources cited in Bikol Wikipidya on the article about George Curry.

However, there is still a problem in the line-up of Camarines governors. The official website of said province is silent about Paz Cea de Conde, the first appointed woman governor of the province, in fact in the entire Philippines, as mentioned by Paz Verdades M. Santos in her book 20th Century Bikol women Writing, (p. 47) or, of Max Noble who served as interim governor, as mentioned in Miguel R. Cornejo's book, tne ''Commonwealth Directory of the Philippines. 1939 Encyclopedia Edition''.

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First governor of Ambos Camarines
Actally, George Curry was the first governor of Ambos Camarines (1899-1901) under the American period. Camarines Norte was separated from Camarines Sur in the year 1919. 121.1.18.237 (talk) 21:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC) Ringer 28 August 2009

Camarines Sur, Philippines correct land area is 548,160 hectares or 5,461.6 sq.kms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.212.70.116 (talk) 02:19, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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In 1942, during during World War II, the Japanese Imperial forces entered and occupied in Albay. In 1945, Filipino and American troops, fighting with the Bicolano guerrillas, liberated Albay from the Japanese forces. WWriter (talk) 17:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Abaca Industry
I wish to include a specific portion to Albay's history to describe that particular period when Albay enjoyed a boom in abaca industry. However, I do not know where I could place it anywhere on here, as the boom began in the late 1800s and endured well until the American period. Here's my source: http://books.google.com.ph/books?id=kCbfDsQQ-cMC&pg=PA108&lpg=PA108&dq=abaca+boom+in+albay&source=bl&ots=HC6PHOjnxR&sig=th8UNVLrGm44uIqgnMgjmHJm_pg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=D9xgU9TbDcm3iQfDqoDQBw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=abaca%20boom%20in%20albay&f=false

Anyhow, I still included it on the Economy portion as the industry has remained to subsist.Unique Albay (talk) 11:26, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

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Districts
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FYI: PALAWAN IS NOT IN WESTERN VISAYAS BECAUSE WESTERN VISAYAS IS COMPOSED OF PANAY ISLAND LIKE AKLAN ANTIQUE ILOILO NEGROS OCCIDENTAL CAPIZ AND GUIMARAS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.185.174 (talk) 16:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Safety
I have read recently about diminishing safety for westerners. Should I add it in? --216.229.226.53 (talk) 19:08, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

The aberration of one event of terrorism in Palawan has so negatively impacted eco-tourism that the economic consequences have, for many, been devastating for nearly a decade. These issues are very small in the history of Palawan and represent no real danger to visitors. Caril Ridley —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caril Ridley (talk • contribs) 07:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Paragoa
In ancient maps, Palawan is indicated as Paragoa Paragoia, most probably by the Portugues before the'official' discovery of the Philippines by the Spaniards. I believe they meant it as a stop over from the Moluccas to Goa, India ( 'para Goa' ). I'm still searching sources.--Jondel (talk) 23:19, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Ancient names
Ancient names included Paragoia, Calamianes, Puloamum. --Jondel (talk) 03:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC) I have cut from the article the following

(means Kapalauan in Meranau or Kepulauan in standard Malay or Islands in English)

A new paragraph etomology is needed to cover names Pbmaise (talk) 08:43, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

pictures
hi, i added some pictures in the geology section. Matikas 0805 (talk) 19:30, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

May July nonsense
Latest edit now results in text reading: As of May July, the abeyance is still in effect and Palawan remains a part of MIMAROPA.

This is nonsense.

I am reverting the text once again. Gubernatoria (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Region placement
This appears to be still in confusion. As the article notes, EO429 ordered the transfer of the Province of Palawan and Puerto Princesa City from Region IV to Region VI on May 23, 2005 and AO129 on August 19, 2005 ordered implementation of EO 429 to be held in abeyance pending approval by the President of its Implementation Plan. As of January 3, 2020, This PSGC Updates page lists AO129 but does not list EO429; it also lists a PSGC Updates (January 1- June 30, 2005) which lists the province of Palawan as having been transferred from Region VI to Region IVB on May 23, 2005 following on EO429. The PSGC Palawan page lists it as being in REGION IV-B (MIMAROPA) as of 30 June 2009.

The PSCG REGION IV-B (MIMAROPA) page shows Palawan as being in that region as of 30 September 2009. The PSGC REGION VI (Western Visayas) does not show Palawan as being in that region as of 30 September 2009. The NCSB Regional Divisions page does not list Region 4, saying that as of as of January 2010. there are ten regional divisions in the whole of the Philippines, but listing only nine (the Cordillera Administrative Region plus Regions numbered 1, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12). The NCSB Provincial, City and Municipal Profiles page does not mention Region 4 or Palawan, and shows Region 6 as not containing Palawan. The PROVINCIAL SUMMARY; NUMBER OF PROVINCES, CITIES, MUNICIPALITIES AND BARANGAYS, BY REGION As of September 30, 2009 page shows Palawan under Region IV-B (MIMAROPA).

The General Appropriations Acts for 2002, 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008 and 2009 (I have not found the 2004 and 2006 acts) show Region 4 as "Region IV - SOUTHERN TAGALOG AND PALAWAN" and list Palawan budget items there.

Googling around, I stumbled over two files on the dbm.gov.ph website — this file, which contains "Sec. 83. Implementation of Executive Order No. 429, Series of 2005. The appropriations provided in this Act for the regional/field offices in Region IV-B may be realigned to Region VI to implement E.O. No. 429, s. 2005 upon approval by the President of the Philippines of the implementation plan to be submitted by the DILG under A.O. No. 129, s. 2005." and this file, which contains, "     Sec. 82. Implementation of Executive Order No. 429, Series of 2005. The appropriations provided in this Act for the regional/field office in Region IV-B may be realigned to Region VI to implement E.O. No. 429, s. 2005 upon approval by the President of the implementation plan to be submitted by the DILG under A.O. No. 129, s. 2005." Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 05:29, 3 January 2010 (UTC) (copyedits/fixes 05:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC))

palawan massacre must have its own article
Can anyone split palawan massacre into a new article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.134.203 (talk) 08:31, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Tandolanos
I am looking to see how these people fit in. Should this be a stub, or are they referred to differently now? They are reported on Palawan by a U.S. government report, and are the subject of a short notice in Americana: Bob Burkhardt (talk) 17:44, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Education data is out of date
There is an tag in the "Education" subsection of the "Demographics" section.

The data about public elementary school enrollment needs to be updated.

Kind regards, Matt (talk) 02:42, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

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I moved this page from "Rizal" to "Rizal (Province)"; on the other hand, "Rizal" now redirects to the biography of the Philippine national hero José Rizal. This is because for most Filipinos (especially for students in all levels), "Rizal" refers to the person, not the province. --- Tito Pao 11:31, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Pasig City is still the capital
I've searched in vain for a law that designates Antipolo as capital of Rizal province, Sec. 52 of RA 7829, which converted Pasig City into an HUC still designates it as the provincial capital of Rizal. Not even RA 8508, which converted Antipolo into a city has designated it to be the provincial capital. --Scorpion prinz (Talk 00:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Rizal Governor Casimiro A. Ynares III on June 17, 2008 announced the transfer of the Capitol from Pasig. It's P 270-million capitol building, being constructed in Antipolo City by Ortigas & Co., owner thereof, will be completed by December. Built on 5-hectare lot at the Ynares Center, it will employ 2,008 employees.gmanews.tv, Rizal capitol to be transferred to Antipolo--Florentino floro (talk) 11:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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QC?
Was it a part of Rizal? -- Howard  the   Duck  17:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Economy Section Deleted
I deleted the old section of the article called Economy. It had to link whatsoever to the economy of Rizal. It was a timeline of events that may have been copied from another website. It had no citations, and did not comply to Wikipedia's policy on neutrality.

If you wish to see it; here is the link to the edit before me: Economy of Rizal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asmark2 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

UPDATE I checked some old articles, and apparently, the article that is called Rizal used to have a better article on the economy. Someone trolled wikipedia by deleting to old old one and replacing it with something ridiculous. I shall be inputting the old article. The person who trolled was: 202.137.113.146. The date he edited was the 7th of December, 2012.

-Asmark2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asmark2 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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I proposed that "Rizal" shall be moved back to "Rizal (province)". The name "Rizal" shall be redirected to Jose Rizal page. A Wikipedian moved this page to "Rizal (province) in 2006, making Rizal to be redirected to Jose Rizal. It is now been moved back to the original as of today.

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Thank you. Rdp060707 (talk) 15:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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No need to continue this for now. BTW, I did not know how I can open a discussion on proposed move before, but I know it as of today. Rdp060707|talk 05:30, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

 * @Rdp060707 Rizal most commonly refers to the hero himself. Even in our college gen. ed. class, Rizal refers to the subject that is about him (Life and Works of Rizal). If Rizal alone is ambiguous it can be the title of the disambiguation page, but it never refers to the province as being the first impression of everyone's minds. Someone must start that requested moves now. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.)  22:22, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Same case applies to Quezon which should be at Quezon (province), but here "Quezon" must be made as a disambiguation page as the province and the late president have both equal footing in primary topic hierarchy. I guess this should be discussed more thoroughly in WP:TAMBAYAN or in requested moves. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 22:30, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Removal of Pasig in the infobox
I have edited the infobox to remove reference to Pasig since RA 11475 officially designates Antipolo as the capital city and Pasig City has long been part of NCR.--Droomla (talk) 11:28, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 10 April 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved; no primary topic. (closed by non-admin page mover) { {ping|ClydeFranklin }} (t/c) 17:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Rizal → Rizal (province) – Rizal more commonly refers to José Rizal himself. "Rizal" should be made either as a redirect to his article or the title for the disambiguation page. The article on the province should be at "Rizal (province)". José Rizal is the first thing that comes to mind of many Filipinos when they encounter the word "Rizal" instead of the province that is named after him. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 17:33, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Support DAB at basename, no PRIMARY.Ortizesp (talk) 00:49, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Support Dab --00:10, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Support but move DAB here as José isn't a full match and there are other uses.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 18:21, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

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 * — This is an awesome article. I feel you should nominate it, I would love to take up the review and add my comments there itself. If we do it all here then it would be same as a peer review, unofficially. Sainsf  <^> Feel at home 10:09, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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Comments on the lead

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 * 2) "archipelago province" should be "archipelagic province". Yes "archipelagic" is a word.
 * 3) There should be a comma after "Tablas".
 * 4) You mentioned "Mindoro" as an island, but then mention "Aklan and Capiz". I suggest saying "Panay" instead.
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Reference to Waray-Waray
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On the contrary, Most many people in Tacloban can understand and speak bisaya/Cebuana. On the island of Leyte (Leyte & Southern Leyte), Waray is confined to an area surrounding Tacloban. Almost all the major towns/cities (Ormoc, Baybay, Hilongos, Inopachen, Bato, Albuera) in (North) Leyte speak bisaya/cebuana.

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SI MARTIN B DANTES AY NAG-AARAL SA ORION ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT NAKATIRA SIYA SA VILLA ANGLES AT MERON SIYANG CRUSH SA SCHOOL SI ALYSSA MAE R. NAZARENO AT LAGI NYANG SINASABI NA CRUSH NYA SI ALYSSA AT SI ALYSSA MAE HINDI NYA ALAM NA MAY GUSTO SI MARTIN SAKANYA AT FRIEND NI MARTIN SI ADRIELLINE DESTREZA AT SI RUSTOM CRUZ AT SI MARTIN PAG-NAKIKITA NIYA SI ALYSSA MAE NAHIHIYA SIYA KAYA LOVE NYA ITO THANKS FOR READ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.203.147.27 (talk) 12:26, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

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Pronunciation of 'Bataan'
My high school English teacher (1954, a long time ago) was on the Bataan Death March. Fortunately he survived it to teach me.

But he pronounced 'Bataan' with a glottal stop: "Bata'an", which he stated to me on several occasions was correct. And I always thought that, having been through all that, he must have been right.

Do we have any independent information about this? If he was right, then there should be some information about how to pronounce this name in the article (an Ogg_Vorbis, or an IPA entry). If not, then "nevermind". Bill Jefferys (talk) 03:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I grew up in Bataan and your teacher is right with her/his pronunciation :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monmon298 (talk • contribs) 07:57, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Bataan Peninsula
The Bataan Peninsula article is completely superfluous since it is synonymous with the province. Everything said about the peninsula can be added to the geography section of the province. P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:25, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * True. The province is nearly contiguous with the peninsula (except for portions of Hermosa and Dinalupihan which extend into the mountainous border between Olongapo and Pampanga). Im good with merging the two articles.--RioHondo (talk) 18:46, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

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Aurora Province's dialect ????
@FILWISE Aurora Province's dialect is Tayabas Tagalog???

Based on the geographic location of Aurora, I doubt it falls into the category of Tayabas Tagalog, which is coined solely for the province of Tayabas (see study of Manuel for Tayabas Tagalog and other local studies in the region). And also, based on its geographic location and demographic population, Aurora has a strong influence from Ilokano, so I doubt that the province is culturally southern.

Due to the heavy influence of the northern population in the province, it is correct to assume that Aurora is northern culturally since it is culturally isolated from the southern region. Assuming that they are Southern is incorrect without proper basis and study on the matter. Quezon, on the other hand, is purely southern, with almost no presence of northern influence.

Based on the geographic location of Aurora, I doubt it falls into the category of Tayabas Tagalog, which is coined solely for the province of Tayabas (see study of Manuel for Tayabas Tagalog and local studies in the region). And also, based on its geographic location and demographic population, Aurora has a strong influence from Ilokano, so I doubt that the province is culturally southern.Liray70 (talk) 12:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

 * @FILWISE These two sources, which you included on the Quezon and Aurora pages, are unreliable. It appears to be copied and pasted, but it also appears to be related only to Baler. These references that you recently added are dubious because their content is exactly the same. It is hard to determine which of them is the original and how legitimate the sources are.  https://www.oocities.org/josephisdead/dictionary.htm https://agbasinillo.wordpress.com/2008/03/22/mga-lipi-ng-salitang-tagalog-ng-taga-quezon/ Liray70 (talk) 13:38, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

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Sumilao Farmer's March
Do we really need to add this on Bukidnon's history section? I guess there are more important events than this one. Kleomarlo (talk) 10:49, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Bukidnon is a pretty boring province so I dunno what else should be added (unlike other parts of Mindanao, this province is relatively peaceful) -- Howard  the   Duck  10:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

 * This should probably be moved to Sumilao, Bukidnon. And maybe leave just a sentence for Bukidnon. --seav (talk) 15:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

 * I think you got the wrong impression here Howard. Let me guess, you are either live in the Visayas and Luzon areas or a Filipino living abroad. If you see Bukidnon as a boring province because it is relatively peaceful, then you are wrong. Just like any other place in Mindanao, Bukidnon also has a share of "not so peaceful" state. If there are MILF, and Abu Sayyaf in the ARMM provinces, we also have our NPA brothers here. Just like any rebel groups, they cause commotion in the province every now and then but unlike the Abu Sayyaf and the MILF, which have international and national coverage, the war that happens within Bukidnon mountains are not televised nor appear in broad sheets. Coverage of the media in the ARMM provinces, both national & international, tend to be OA. Although yeah Bukidnon is really relatively peaceful but it's not boring.Kleomarlo (talk) 08:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Actually several provinces in Luzon have NPAs but they're still mostly boring, mostly due to NPA guerilla and limited engagement tactics... (IMHO it gets only "exciting" when there large scale military operations, and I don't want to see any of that...) -- Howard  the   Duck  15:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

 * Well that's your opinion...Kleomarlo (talk) 06:32, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

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 * I fixed the coordinates myself already using the (rounded) coordinates of Valencia City, which is roughly in the center of the province, Magalhães (talk) 08:53, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

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BORDER OF CAMARINES NORTE
Madaya naman yaang Santa Elena. kinuha ang Tabugon.. ok laang sana kung Plaridel/Macahadoc laang ang kinuha nila.. sobra sobra.. pati kabilang pampang nan Quezon Canal sa Calauag ay kinuha. Ipinagawa yung canal nung before war for Calauag's convenience hindi para boundary! DAPAT NGA AY STRAIGHT ELBOW/TRIANGLE ANG CAMARINES BORDERS NG QUEZON OVERLAPPING a.k.a town of "SANTA ELENA" which they couldn't even sustain prosperity to our stolen barangays! nasa papel man na CamNorth ang 9 barangays ay Quezon at heart parin kami! PILIPINAS, QUEZON NAMAN! Noon, ngayon, TAYABAS TAYO! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ken imperial14 (talk • contribs) 10:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

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I propose to merge Catanduanes (island) into Catanduanes. Since the island is nearly contiguous with the province, there is no need for a separate article. Moreover, the island article is very brief and almost entirely duplicated in the province article already. A mention that there are a few tiny islets surrounding Catanduanes Island that are also part of the province is sufficient to make the distinction clear. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 17:08, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No objections, merge completed. -- P 1 9 9 ✉ 03:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

The claim that the Benham Rise is an integral part of Catandungan culture is likely unsubstantiated; otherwise, there would have been references (or a link at least) to this effect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.32.142 (talk) 07:38, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

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TANAUAN MUNICIPAL CULTURAL EVENTS

There is a yearly town festival held at Tanauaun Poblacion from the 14th to the 16th of August, commencing from the Canramos area on the 14th, Licud on the 15th and San Roque on the 16th. During the 15th of August there is a big festivity held at the town centre that includes all elementary and highschool students dressed in colourful custumes performing dances and routines that follows a street parade around the municipality. The festival is called "Pasaka" which is a waray word meaning invitation to progress/health/luck for the inhabitants for the coming year.

The festival is so popular and so merry that it even encourages expatriats to visit during this time of festivity. The festivity also invites people from anywhere who wish to join and enjoy the festivity and are all welcomed by the locals in their own homes regardless of whether they know them or not.

Balikbayans, a colloquial word that describes former residents who migrated overseas, also finds it interesting and exciting to visit or have a holiday to the town during this time of the year. Tanauan have a great diversity of "balikbayans" coming from all around the world. This occurence has never been more evident than the festival during the year 1998, where the yearly beauty pageant being held during the fiesta as part of the cultural activities were joined in by young candidates who were children by former local residents but who have been living overseas for many years. The young beauties came from Australia and USA who were there on a long holiday, the main purpose of which was to learn the original culture of their parents. These two young beauties ended up the winner and the first runner up. The winner and who was crowned Miss Tanauan at that time was Jetheth, a daughter of two former Filipino residents, who are now Australians citizens. She is a kayumangi(natural tan complexion) beauty who was born in the Philippines but migrated to Sydney - Australia when she was just 4 years old. The first runner-up was also a daughter of former filipino residents who have lived in USA for many years. This young beauty also holds US citizenship. Both girls joined for fun and excitement and both had the time of their lives.

Regular balikbayans to the town during the festival are from all parts of the world, however the most regular ones are from Australia. There is a "Balikbayan group" that is always in the process of organising cultural and social events to encourage more balikbayans into the town to help pumped-up the town's tourism objectives, thus help the town's economy. The best local contact for them are well known Tanauan residents by the names of Rolly, Jerry and Jun Albao who all lived in Canramos.

Helpful suggestions, bright ideas and most importantly feedback from overseas Tanauananons are very much needed and encouraged to assist in the success of the above cultural and social undertaking to help the tourism objective of the town, that is in urgent need of support and local income boost. Immediate contact can be made to the Balikbayan organiser, Gina Buraga on email address: gburaga@hotmail.com or tel no 61 2 418493322

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Propaniac (talk) 18:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)

Leyte province → — Others use "(province)" instead of "province". Schwyz (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Oppose There is no need for any disambiguator.  Per Naming conventions (geographic names) the article should be at Leyte, as primary topic, which is a redirect to the current title.  Skinsmoke (talk) 11:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
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'''I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE STILL INDIGENOUS PEOLPLE IN THE PROVINCE..AND WHATS THEIR TRIBE NAME..THANK YOU '''

Vandalism?
Does this article attract a lot of vandalism due to its amusing name?Towel401 (talk) 16:54, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Request moved here from the article body
I have moved the following request here from the article:

"Please remove from list the current name of former Mayor Clemente Arguelles Jr.and change to Mayor Ruel Amistoso Benisano of Balud, Masbate who was elected and won last 2007 election. term From 2007 till 2010

Also the tip Island of Masbate in the south is not Putic Island. it is named Jintotolo island

thanks comments from RBM and LGU BALUD"

Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:34, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Government
I'm currently listening to a speech by the governor of Masbate, which she is giving in New York City. Maybe I can find some information for this article after the speech. --Uncle Ed (talk) 21:01, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

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