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A.D. Vision

A.D. Vision Holdings, Inc. (known simply as ADV and also referred to as ADV Films) was an American multimedia entertainment distributor headquartered in Houston, Texas, and founded in 1992 by video game fan John Ledford and anime fans Matt Greenfield and David Williams. The company specialized in home video production and distribution, theatrical film distribution, merchandising, original productions, magazine and comic book publishing. They also ran Anime Network, a television channel devoted to airing the company's titles. Some of their titles were Neon Genesis Evangelion, Super Dimension Fortress Macross, RahXephon, Full Metal Panic, Azumanga Daioh, Elfen Lied, Gantz, Red Garden, and Le Chevalier D'Eon.

The company maintained offices in North America, Europe and Asia. In addition to North America, ADV Films distributed their home media releases in the United Kingdom, Italy, and Germany. The company was also involved in various lawsuits with other companies, though none of them made it to court.

With declining fortunes in the mid-2000s due to low sales, ADV ceased all of its operations and eventually liquidated their assets in 2009. Sentai Holdings, owner of Section23 Films, Sentai Filmworks, AEsir Holdings, Valkyrie Media Partners, and Seraphim Digital, took over the ADV brand name and still uses it on some of their releases. Most of ADV's former titles have been re-released by other companies. Sentai was subsequently acquired by AMC Networks in 2022. As of 2024, ADV exists as a domiciled shell corporation.

Beginnings
John Ledford, a native of Houston, Texas, started a Japanese video game and video console import business in 1990. He was introduced to anime when he watched My Neighbor Totoro at his friend's suggestion. At the time, Matt Greenfield, born in Sacramento, California, ran a local anime club called Anime NASA, which also included classmate David Williams. After consulting with Ledford, Greenfield joined him and Williams to found A.D. Vision, which officially opened for business on August 17, 1992. Ledford contacted Toho about optioning the rights to license Devil Hunter Yohko. Shozo Watanabe, the general manager of Toho's Los Angeles office, expressed concern that A.D. Vision would not be able to handle the distribution of the film. Unable to find another distributor, Toho convinced A.D. Vision to license the series. That December, Devil Hunter Yohko became the first title to be released by A.D. Vision.

In 2007, Japan's Sojitz announced that Japan Content Investments (JCI), an investment group run by Sojitz, Development Bank of Japan, and film distribution company KlockWorx, planned to contribute money to A.D. Vision, in return for equity in the company. Ledford was to remain the majority shareholder and CEO. JCI subsidiary ARM also planned to contribute money for ADV to use in acquiring new distribution licenses. The investment was to ADV Films to raise its output of new anime titles, which had dropped in 2006, back to previous levels or above. In return, ADV planned to assist Sojitz with the acquisition of North American and European content for importation into Japan. According to ADV, they also reportedly had "big plans" for its manga line.

Partnerships and acquisitions
In August 2007, a notice was sent to retailers stating that ADV Films would be taking over the distribution, marketing, and sales of Geneon properties in the US as of October 1. In preparation, Geneon United States laid off most of its sales division; however, in September the distribution deal was canceled. Dentsu confirmed that the distribution deal was canceled through a press release on September 21, 2007 with no reasons given except that Geneon and ADV were "unable to reach a mutual agreement."

In June 2006, 20% of ADV Films was acquired by the Japanese Sojitz Corporation. This was done as a means of acquiring more titles in the Japanese market. From this point on, virtually all titles that ADV acquired were under Sojitz's ownership. However, in January 2008, ADV mysteriously removed a large number of titles from their website. All the titles removed were titles acquired since the Sojitz acquisition including Gurren Lagann, which had test disks sent out with dubbed episodes. As of May 2008, Gurren Lagann was licensed by Bandai Entertainment. ADV Films made booth appearances at the Anime Central 2008 convention, but they canceled their planned panel. In July 2008, Funimation Entertainment (then owned by its parent Navarre Corporation, now owned by Sony Pictures Television under the Crunchyroll brand) announced the acquisition of thirty of these titles.

On October 20, 2008, it was announced that ADV had entered into a licensing arrangement with new licensor Sentai Filmworks. The highlight of the new partnership was that ADV would be distributing the anime television adaptation of the popular visual novel Clannad, also they acquired the distribution rights to Koharu Biyori, Mahoromatic, Mahoromatic: Something More Beautiful (both were previously licensed by Geneon), Tsukihime (previously licensed by Geneon), Pet Shop of Horrors (previously licensed by Urban Vision), and Jewel BEM Hunter Lime (previously licensed by Media Blasters).

Following the May 2009 bankruptcy and liquidation of Central Park Media, ADV Films acquired the North American rights of Grave of the Fireflies and re-released it on DVD on July 7, 2009. ADV Films also acquired the licenses of multiple other Central Park Media titles as well.

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On September 1, 2009, ADV announced that it was liquidating its assets, including intellectual properties, its distribution arm and the Anime Network, and going out of business. These assets would be transferred to four companies: Seraphim Studios, AEsir Holdings LLC, Valkyrie Media Partners LLC and SXION 23 LLC. The impact of this sale on the company's plans to license and release new titles, is still not fully known, but the ADV brand name and logo have been retired. Anime News Network has reported that Seraphim Studios, Valkyrie Media Partners and SXION 23 are all corporations registered (initially filed) by Griffin D. Vance IV, who was ADV's senior vice president of business and legal affairs.

The following companies all acquired assets from A.D. Vision:
 * Sentai Filmworks is the licensor company for acquiring Japanese anime into the North American market.
 * AEsir Holdings has licensed rights to most of ADV Films' former library of titles (some titles are licensed directly by Sentai Filmworks).
 * Seraphim Studios acquired Amusement Park Media, ADV's production studio, and it was renamed Seraphim Digital Studios.
 * Valkyrie Media Partners acquired the Anime Network. The network continues to operate as before the sale.
 * Section23 Films is a distributor and marketing company of Switchblade Pictures, Sentai Filmworks, Maiden Japan, and AEsir Holdings.

That day, major retail website Robert's Corner Anime Blog contacted Mike Bailiff, formerly of ADV Films and now heading up Sales and Marketing at Section 23 Films. Bailiff revealed that "Section 23 has acquired all of ADV's former licenses and most of the staff" including "everyone at ADV that mattered."

On September 18, 2009, the anime review site iSugoi.com posted a full podcast devoted to the shutdown of ADV, analyzing that ADV had not shut down and the new companies such as Section 23 were ADV selling itself to itself: that it was not a shutdown but a drastic rebranding and restructuring. The report went on to say that Section 23 was, for all intents and purposes, the direct successor-organization to the old ADV company name, and that ADV split its assets such as the Anime Network into the other three companies to take advantage of several legal loopholes. The podcast report concluded with the assertion that Section 23, and the umbrella of associated companies ADV split into, could effectively be thought of as Neo-ADV (referencing how in Mobile Suit Gundam, when the Principality of Zeon was defeated, its remnants reorganized into Neo Zeon).

On October 15, 2009, rival distribution company Funimation posted an online Q&A video panel hosted by events manager Adam Sheehan. When asked about ADV going out of business, Sheehan's response was the following:

"ADV isn't out of business. ADV did remaster itself, as you might call it, and change itself into multiple different companies (Section 23, etc.), holding different parts of its brands, of its marketing, so [it's] still around...the best way I would describe it is to think of it as Voltron: if it turned back into the five lions, so it's not the one Voltron robot anymore, so the ADV logo is no longer around, but the lions and all the properties are still around."

Ken Hoinsky, Managing Founder of MX Media LLC, a translation and localization company contracting with most major anime distribution companies (Funimation, Viz Media, Bandai), appeared on the October 29, 2009, Anime News Network podcast: in it he said that his company also contracts with Section 23, but that he also collectively refers to the allied companies that ADV split into as Neo-ADV.

ADV Films
ADV Films was the home video publication arm of A.D. Vision based in Houston, Texas, specializing in publishing anime and tokusatsu videos, as well as other live-action material. In 1996, ADV Films opened its UK division, and diversified into the realm of live-action television series and Japanese films.

The first title to be licensed and released to video was Devil Hunter Yohko. After that, they began acquiring an extensive library of titles. Initially, titles were released to video with the original Japanese language track and English subtitles added. A few years later, they began dubbing releases to English using a production and recording facility in Houston. They eventually started offering their recording services to other companies, so this studio was named Amusement Park Media. This studio was sold to Seraphim Digital after their bankruptcy.

ADV Films offered a program called Anime ADVocates, which provided free screening material and other promotional content to nearly 3,000 anime clubs in North America. To qualify for the program, the club had to be sponsored by a local high school, college, university, or public library and have at least 10 members. Member clubs were also asked to participate in surveys about the content they received. However, in November 2007, ADV Films put the program on hiatus, then on January 18, 2008, ADV Films announced that the program was being suspended indefinitely due to amount of resources the program needed. The company continued to offer anime clubs screening permission for its titles prior to its reorganization.

In July 2008, ADV Films and ARM Corporation transferred the licenses to over 30 different shows into the hands of fellow anime distributor Funimation. Those rights included the home video, broadcast, digital, and merchandising rights in North America and other regions.

Since then, former ADV titles have since been re-licensed by other companies such as Funimation, Sentai Filmworks, Discotek Media, Universal, Paramount and Nozomi Entertainment. Today, the ADV Films brand name is owned by Sentai Filmworks, who has released several titles under its name, such as Mezzo DSA on DVD, Kino's Journey on DVD, and standard-definition Blu-ray, Elfen Lied on DVD  and Blu-ray,  and Lady Death: The Motion Picture on Blu-ray.

Anime Network
Anime Network was a cable channel in North America dedicated to anime. The network launched in North America in late 2002 and was marketed to multi-system operators (MSOs) as both a stand-alone 24-hour linear network and as a video on demand (VOD) programming service. The Anime Network was the United States' first all-anime cable TV network. On January 4, 2008, Anime Network officially announced that the traditional 24/7 service would cease operations.

Anime Network now exists as a VOD channel operating on many cable and satellite operators such as DirecTV, Dish Network, Cox, Time Warner, Cablevision, and Charter. It also has a Roku app. However the online service was decommissioned in 2017 following the launch of HIDIVE.

ADV Manga
ADV Manga was ADV's division for the licensing and distribution of English translations of Japanese manga. The division was launched in 2003, with a strong list of titles and an ambitious plan for growth within the United States manga market. However, ADV Manga canceled many of their titles in late 2004 and 2005. In 2006, ADV Manga released the 6-volume Neon Genesis Evangelion: Angelic Days series and in 2007 the company resumed releasing several popular titles that had been on hiatus, including Yotsuba&! and Gunslinger Girl.

At Anime Expo 2006, manga publisher Tokyopop announced that it had obtained the licenses for three titles formerly licensed by ADV that had been cancelled: Aria, Tactics, and Peacemaker Kurogane. Meanwhile, Yen Press has acquired the rights to Yotsuba&! and Azumanga Daioh.

ADV Music
ADV Music was the music publishing division that focused on distributing anime and movie soundtracks. It was launched in 2003 after ending their partnership in AnimeTrax with The Right Stuf International. One initial release was the soundtrack for Onimusha 2: Samurai's Destiny.

ADV Pro
ADV Pro was the company's anime production studio. They worked on such in house productions as Lady Death: The Motion Picture and Mutineers' Moon. John Ledford stated in 2007 that ADV Pro had been "reactivated" and was working on Mutineers' Moon.

ADV Kids
ADV Kids was their label for works intended at younger audiences, with releases such as Sonic the Hedgehog OVA and Mega Man: Upon a Star, as well as the 1994 Mega Man animated series, one of few Western animation releases from the company. However, the label failed to take off.

SoftCel Pictures
SoftCel Pictures was the branch of the company that specialized in the release of hentai anime titles on VHS and DVD. The first product released was Legend of Lyon Flare. This division was shut down in 2005 after spinning off from ADV, and most of its titles were acquired by Critical Mass, the hentai division of The Right Stuf International. In 2017, the SoftCel label was relaunched by Section23 Films, one of ADV's successor companies.

Happy Carrot
ADV started the Happy Carrot branch in 2008 to release hentai anime titles on DVD, replacing SoftCel.

Newtype USA
Newtype USA was the US edition of Japan's Newtype magazine. The first issue was published in November 2002. A.D. Vision (ADV) contacted its advertising partners to let them know that the February 2008 issue of Newtype USA was the last issue of the magazine. The magazine contained material it translated from the Japanese release as well as articles from American writers. It was expected to have 50,000 copies in for its initial circulation.

PiQ
PiQ premiered in May 2008 as a replacement for Newtype USA. It was published by PiQ LLC, a now-defunct subsidiary. The magazine had a broader focus and expanded coverage of topics beyond anime and manga. PiQ retained much of the editorial staff and freelance writers that once worked on its predecessor, as well as its 15,000 subscribers. In June 2008, after only four issues had been published, PiQ was canceled and its offices abruptly closed down. The July 2008 dated issue, which had already been released when the announcement was made, was the magazine's last issue.

ARM Corporation
In 2008, A.D. Vision sued ARM Corporation and its parent Sojitz for a breach in a contract made previously. In the suit, the exact amount A.D. Vision paid to license twenty-nine titles was disclosed. The lawsuit was withdrawn and no ruling was made.

Gainax
In August 2011, A.D. Vision sued Gainax over their refusal to accept an option payment for the perpetual live-action rights to Neon Genesis Evangelion, including the planned live-action film; ADV charges that by refusing to accept payment, Gainax broke the contract and is asking for the rights and legal fees.

Funimation
In 2012, Funimation sued A.D. Vision, Sentai Filmworks, John Ledford, and several other associated organizations and individuals for US$8 million, accusing them of breaching a contract. They wanted to get their transfer of assets done three years earlier declared void. The suit was settled out of court. The exact terms were not disclosed.

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Anime Network

Anime Network was an American video on demand (VOD) network dedicated to anime owned by AMC Networks.

History
The network was launched in North America in late 2002 and is marketed to multi system operators (MSOs) as both a free and subscription Video On Demand (VOD) programming service. Anime Network also provides online streaming of its anime for North America via its website with free full-length preview episodes for non-members, more episodes for members, and all online titles available for subscribers.

In October 2007, Anime Network was launched on DirecTV On Demand, initially on channel 1801 at launch. As of the fall of 2015, it can now be found on channel 1889.

The Anime Network ceased broadcast of its linear 24/7 network on January 1, 2008; it continues to support a VOD service and online player on its main website. On September 1, 2009, A.D. Vision had sold off the Anime Network to Valkyrie Media Partners LLC as part of the dissolution of the company and the reorganization of its assets.

In June 2017, Section23 Films announced it would discontinue the Anime Network Online streaming service and focus solely on Anime Network's pay television and subscription VOD services. HIDIVE, LLC, a new company which is not affiliated with Anime Network, Section23, or Sentai Filmworks, acquired Anime Network Online's assets and spun them off into a new streaming service called HIDIVE. On June 20, 2017, Anime Network Inc. announced it acquired the "www.theanimenetwork.com" domain name from Anime Network Online.

Availability and distribution
At launch, the Anime Network was only available by Video On Demand to Comcast subscribers in the Philadelphia area with 1.2 million customers with more providers choosing to carry the service later on. The linear service launched on June 30, 2004, to complement the VOD service. Comcast Communications previously carried the channel on video on demand since its launch. On May 29, 2009, Comcast discontinued carriage of the service in both its free package and its pay-per-view digital television package which, however, are periodically included among Comcast Xfinity's Top Picks.

24/7 linear service
From June 30, 2004, to January 4, 2008, Anime Network offered a 24/7 channel available to pay television providers. The service was only carried by small cable companies. On January 4, 2008, Anime Network officially announced that the 24/7 service would cease operations. The network will still operate as a VOD provider.

Video on demand
The Anime Network's content is distributed through video on demand in two formats.

Sony announced at E3 2010 that the PlayStation Network would begin carrying The Anime Network.

Anime Network (UK)
On June 3, 2007, Anime Network was launched in the United Kingdom as a programming block on the Propeller TV satellite channel, produced by A.D. Vision. It was broadcast as a 2-hour block with 4 different anime series and aired from 8:00pm to 10:00pm, 7 days a week. The block was removed from the schedule on January 1, 2008, which was the same day Anime Network discontinued its North American 24/7 linear service to continue to support its VOD service.

Programming

 * Azumanga Daioh
 * Coyote Ragtime Show
 * Elfen Lied
 * Guyver: The Bioboosted Armor
 * Innocent Venus
 * Jinki:Extend
 * Kurau: Phantom Memory
 * Neon Genesis Evangelion
 * Pani Poni Dash
 * This Ugly Yet Beautiful World

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Mafeking (disambiguation)

Mafeking or Mahikeng is the capital of the North West province of South Africa.

Mafeking may also refer to:
 * Mafeking, Victoria, a locality near Willaura in Australia
 * Mafeking, Manitoba, an unincorporated hamlet in Canada
 * Mafeking, Ontario, a former hamlet in Canada
 * Mafeking, Trinidad and Tobago, a village in Trinidad and Tobago

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VOD (disambiguation)

VOD refers to video on demand, a system for watching video content such as television.

VOD may also refer to:

 * Velocity of detonation, the speed of a shock wave through a detonated explosive
 * Veno-occlusive disease, a complication of bone marrow transplantation
 * Versant Object Database, a database management system
 * Vision of Disorder, a musical group
 * Vodafone Group, stock symbol VOD
 * Voice of Democracy, Cambodian news outlet
 * Voice of Democracy (scholarship)

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Mattock

A mattock is a hand tool used for digging, prying, and chopping. Similar to the pickaxe, it has a long handle and a stout head which combines either a vertical axe blade with a horizontal adze (cutter mattock), or a pick and an adze (pick mattock). A cutter mattock is similar to a Pulaski used in fighting fires. It is also commonly known in North America as a "grub axe".

Description
A mattock has a shaft, typically made of wood, which is 3 - 4 ft long. The head consists of two ends, opposite each other and separated by a central eye. A mattock head typically weighs 3 - 7 lb. The form of the head determines the kind and uses of the mattock:

 * A cutter mattock combines the functions of an axe and adze, with its axe blade oriented vertically and longer adze horizontally.
 * A pick mattock combines the function of a pick and adze, with a pointed end opposite an adze blade.

Both are used for grubbing in hard soils and rocky terrain, with the pick mattock having the advantage of a superior penetrating tool over the cutter mattock, which excels at cutting roots.

Uses

Mattocks are "the most versatile of hand-planting tools". They can be used to chop into the ground with the adze and pull the soil towards the user, opening a slit to plant into. They can also be used to dig holes for planting into, and are particularly useful where there is a thick layer of matted sod. The use of a mattock can be tiring because of the effort needed to drive the blade into the ground, and the amount of bending and stooping involved.

The adze of a mattock is useful for digging or hoeing, especially in hard soil.

Cutter mattocks (jembe-shoka) are used in rural Africa for removing stumps from fields, including unwanted banana suckers.

History
As a simple but effective tool, mattocks have a long history. Their shape was already established by the Bronze Age in Asia Minor and ancient Greece. According to Sumerian mythology, the mattock was invented by the god Enlil. Mattocks (μάκελλα) are the most commonly depicted tool in Byzantine manuscripts of Hesiod's Works and Days.

Mattocks made from antlers first appear in the British Isles in the Late Mesolithic. They were probably used chiefly for digging, and may have been related to the rise of agriculture. Mattocks made of whalebone were used for tasks including flensing – stripping blubber from the carcass of a whale – by the broch people of Scotland and by the Inuit.

Etymology
The word mattock is of unclear origin; one theory traces it from Proto-Germanic, from Proto-Indo-European. There are no clear cognates in other Germanic languages, and similar words in various Celtic languages are borrowings from the English (e.g. matog,, màdog). However, there are proposed cognates in Old High German and Middle High German, and more speculatively with words in Balto-Slavic languages, including Old Church Slavonic motyga and Lithuanian matikas, and even Sanskrit. It may be cognate to or derived from the unattested Vulgar Latin matteūca, meaning club or cudgel. The New English Dictionary of 1906 interpreted mattock as a diminutive, but there is no root to derive it from, and no semantic reason for the diminutive formation. Forms such as mathooke, motthook and mathook were produced by folk etymology. Although used to prepare whale blubber, which the Inuit call "mattaq", no such connection is known.

While the noun mattock is attested from Old English onwards, the transitive verb "to mattock" or "to mattock up" first appeared in the mid-17th century.

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User:AndrewKepert

Me

 * Maths lecturer at University of Newcastle, NSW, Australia
 * Based at Ourimbah campus, a multi-sector campus shared by the University of Newcastle, TAFE NSW and the Central Coast Community College.
 * Double Bassist - Classical and Jazz. ( Gotta fix that article getting there)
 * Get around on a road bike.

Me and WikipediA
Previously a sporadic skimmer of wikipedia, I took the plunge on 18:26, 4 Aug 2003 with MetaPost. Not intending to be a hard-core wikipedian, you can look in the usual place for my contributions -- some things on maths, some on music, some on TeX etc. I am too busy to do much to WP nowadays, other than tweak things, revert vandalism, etc.

How much you can re-use my contributions
As suggested in the Free the rambot Articles project it is useful if wikipedians be a bit more explicit about the licensing of their contributions. So here it is:

Unless otherwise stated, I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

HOWTO

 * MediaWiki User's Guide on Meta-Wikipedia
 * Editing overview
 * Using tables
 * Extended image syntax
 * MediaWiki custom messages like
 * Categorization
 * Deletion_policy and Criteria_for_speedy_deletion

WP todos

 * WikiProject_Mathematics
 * List of functional analysis topics
 * List of general topology topics
 * Requested articles/mathematics

Keep an eye on

 * Wikiportal/Australia

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User talk:The Anome/archive 2

The agreed policy is that all words in a species' official common name should be capitalised, other than those following a hyphen if they refer to a part of the animal: "Bald Eagle", "Red-necked Phalarope", "Wilson's Storm-Petrel".

The biology convention appears to be applicable to math as well. Pizza Puzzle

 * ...and were the mean value theorem an animal, I'd agree with you. -- The Anome 14:13 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Well, so much for logic...do you have some conventional ruling which you feel somehow overrids that and the convention that proper names should be capitalized? How is it easier to read Joseph-Louis LaGrange; instead of simply LaGrange. Students of the Mean Value Thoerem do not need to be on a first name basis with Joe. Pizza Puzzle

 * I'm a bit tired at the moment, and I've got to do some real work now. Three points:
 * If you have "real work" to do, why do you find these issues to be so important as to change them - at worst they are extremely minor grammatical errors; at best, Im absolutely right.
 * There is more than one mean value theorem: see the article itself
 * but only one Mean Value Theorem

-- The Anome 14:26 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)
 * Lagrange should most certainly redirect to Joseph-Louis Lagrange
 * And it does, LaGrange is far easier to read, most people find names cumbersome to read - it is not proper to use full names when briefly referring to somebody in passing.
 * The capital "G" in LaGrange is highly non-standard usage for the mathematician, perhaps you were thinking of places like LaGrange county, Illinois?
 * Yes, I was thinking of Joseph-Louis LaGrange, as in LaGrange county.

- Great work on the SCO vs. IBM page. :-) (also, this page is currently 37 kb long).  Best,  Koyaanis Qatsi 01:03 3 Jul 2003 (UTC) -- RE 142.177. I've been performing an experiment to see if the banned user who uses this IP range can become a valid contributor to Wikipedia. You are not under any obligation to participate in this experiment since Jimbo's HardBan order is still in place, but I would like you to consider joining the experiment. If and when this user violates our policies (such as niceness) then we can enforce the HardBan. --mav

He has certainly mellowed a bit, and sometimes makes useful edits. This should be discussed on the mailing list before we lift the ban. I agree, there should be incentives for good behavior, but Jimbo and the mailing list should be the ultimate authority under the current rules. -- The Anome 21:49 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Since nobody is obligated to enforce the ban then simply not acting is still consistent with the ban order. The order just gives anybody the right to revert his edits and the HardBan aspect legally prevents anybody from resurrecting those edits. I still want to wait and see before we try to make any official change in policy. --mav

That's why I've not been grepping his edits and retroactively blasting them away en masse: I'm only intervening when I notice him making a nuisance of himself: then I just IP block his latest IP address and then remove/rollback the most recent batch without checking them individually. -- The Anome 22:00 3 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * OIC. That has been my policy too. --mav

In the talk page of tensors (and that of the classical treatment), we have agreed upon doing both approaches as independant and complimentary. There are many reasons for this. If you feel that things should be otherwise, please have the courtesy to discuss it first, before going ahead and making drastic structural changes. And read the discussions regarding this structure first. -- Kevin Baas

Heh heh. So The Cunctator keeps reverting the main page to the colourless version rather than offering any detailed argument. Oh well, some things never change. Every so often we seem to become Cuncpedia, when Cunc gets an idea into his head. I was told off once by a couple of users for trying to debate an issue with him once. I was told I was wasting my time. How on some issue we will all have a debate. A consensus will be reached and then Cunc will completely ignore it and do things his way. I guess the main page behaviour as elsewhere just proves it. :-) FearÉIREANN 23:37 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thank you, Anome. I don't mean to discourage your attempts, they are very noble. I hope that the intermediate treatment works out well. It will be an excellent addition to the tensor pages.
 * "Many are obstinate with regard to the once-chosen path, few with regard to the goal."
 * -Fredrich Nietzsche

-- Kevin Baas

 * Thank you, Evercat! So, that's
 * $$\left\lceil \frac{mV}{n+1} \right\rceil + 1$$
 * then.

No, it's:

$$\left\lfloor \frac{mV}{n+1} \right\rfloor + 1$$

Evercat 17:25 7 Jul 2003 (UTC)

About the images of U.S. counties - James F. has set up some web space, and I have been emailing him the images I've done. Hopefully we'll get all of them into a consistent naming format, size, etc. prior to uploading. What I'm hoping is that we can find some automated way to:

 * 1) Upload image highlighting X County
 * 2) Insert comments for image of X County (specifically, the original source of the images, prior to editing, asks for a mention)
 * 3) Add the image, in a floating DIV or some such, to the article on X County

Any help you could give by way of automating any of the above would be greatly appreciated! -- Wapcaplet 02:42 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Brilliant work on Ley lines. I wanted to balance the initial rather credulous page by debunking some of it, but couldn't do much more than add the statement that ley lines probably arise by chance - I didn't have the maths to do it properly, so thanks for taking up the challenge and (I sincerely hope) laying the whole silly business to rest! GRAHAMUK 10:51 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I second that. It really makes the link with Chaos magic possible. I was wondering how to work that one in. Harry Potter 00:12 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Why have you moved snowballing to snowballing (sexual practice)? If there is another use of the term snowballing that needs a Wikipedia entry, you need to make snowballing a disambiguation page. Otherwise, the page should be moved back. Unless, of course, you know of some policy that I'm not aware of. Do let me know... -- Oliver P. 11:19 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * I'd say this is a good thing. Snowballing to me is throwing snowballs at one another, the other thing surprised me! If someone was looking for articles about harmless winter activities for cold weather, they might be surprised to find the explanation as such. In other words, it does have a second, (and much more obvious and banal) meaning. GRAHAMUK

The throwing of snowballs! Just never got round to it. -- The Anome 11:21 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Aha! :) Erm, except that snowball redirects to a page about the Simpsons' pet cat! Hmm... How often is the throwing of snowballs referred to as "snowballing", anyway? And would we really need any article about the throwing of snowballs? Couldn't we just refer people to the article on snow? Do we really need a disambiguation page, do you think...? -- Oliver P. 11:34 8 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I thought you might be interested in the opinion poll going on now at Talk:Clitoris. MB 17:54 9 Jul 2003 (UTC)

--- Thanks so much for fixing the table on history of post-communist Russia! I would have been able to solve that problem myself! 172

I invite you to comment on talk:ley line - Harry Potter wants to remove your excellent stuff to a different page, and only offers some vague arguments for doing so... Evercat 11:18 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hello Anome, I've answered to your question about copyright on my talk page Nikola 11:33 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I was just curious about what your plans are for uploading U.S. County images. There aren't too many states left now, and a bunch are ready for uploading. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help! -- Wapcaplet 16:51 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Alas, I've looked at a bot for doing the interaction, and I'm not sure I have the time to do what's needed. I'll get back to you soon. -- The Anome 19:08 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK, I've built an uploader. What file names and comments do you want? Is just the last component of the filename going to be sufficient? Then I can just upload "Map_of_Alaska_highlighting_Aleutians_West_Census_Area.png" with comment "Map_of_Alaska_highlighting_Aleutians_West_Census_Area.png created by Wapcaplet licensed under GFDL." Is that OK? -- The Anome 20:36 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The file names should probably be the same as on James' site. The comments for each image can be something general like this:

It's not even really necessary to customize these on a per-image basis. -- Wapcaplet 20:47 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Okay, here's a proof of concept:

Please check this to see whether it's OK, and when you have a sufficient batch of clean pages to upload. How far along are you with your map generation? -- The Anome 21:24 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

That looks great! Do you want to wait until all of the states are done, or can you do the existing ones and come back for the rest later? All of the stuff on James' site under "Ready to upload" are good to go, as far as I know. The rest, hopefully, will be done in a week or so. -- Wapcaplet 21:31 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

How many of them are there/will there be? Are you doing them in alphabetical order, by any chance, or state-by-state? I'd prefer to only upload them once, so some sort of clear boundary between runs would be helpful. -- The Anome

I'm not certain how many there are - each state tends to have around 100 counties, so 5000 is a good ballpark estimate. I'm not doing them in any particular order, so if you want to go ahead and do the ones that are there now, I will have James put all future ones into a different directory for the second run. Or, if you'd rather wait until they are all finished, that'd be fine with me. -- Wapcaplet 22:00 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK, let me know when you are ready for a run. Then I'll set things going within a day or so. -- The Anome 22:07 11 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I like your idea of linking from the attribution to the US County page. I see you've gotten started! A few new states have been posted to the website (Illinois, Indiana, and Wisconsin), as well as several US maps highlighting each state; you probably haven't gotten to these yet, but please hold off on them if you have. We've been using a width of 300 pixels for all states, and letting the height vary proportionally, but it got out of control on Illinois and Indiana (which look twice as big as Texas, since they're tall and skinny).

I hate to interrupt your run, but if possible, do not yet upload:

 * Illinois
 * Indiana
 * Delaware
 * Vermont
 * New Hampshire
 * New Jersey

If you can't stop it now, don't worry about it. We can just overwrite them later. The rest of the states should be okay, though. Sorry for the hassle - I should have checked these a bit more carefully beforehand. -- Wapcaplet 16:26 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I've stopped the bot. I'll manually delete the directories for those states. -- The Anomebot 16:30 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Tell ya what... I'm having doubts about the whole batch. Our original plan was to keep them at a consistent size, but the heights vary from 100 to more than 500, which could really do bad things for consistent article appearance. I will resize all of them to 300x300 max. If you prefer, I can just e-mail them to you as I finish them. -- Wapcaplet 17:10 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Ergh. Forget I said that. I should have just waited longer before asking for help uploading these :) Okay. Here are the states to go ahead and upload:

 * Alaska (looks like you've already done most of it)
 * Arkansas
 * Colorado
 * Hawaii
 * Iowa
 * Kansas
 * Missouri
 * Monatana
 * Nebraska
 * North Dakota
 * Oklahoma
 * Oregon
 * South Dakota
 * Texas
 * Washington
 * Wyoming

That is my final answer. There may be more, but these I am sure about. They all have a maximum height of 300, and any less than that is fine. Sorry about all this nonsense! I really appreciate your patience. -- Wapcaplet 17:31 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK. I've deleted all the files except those in those directories. Re-starting the bot, just for a test. -- The Anomebot 21:00 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * It is not a matter of whether I agree with the argument or not, but that the argument is not well put in light of the issue. As i put on the talk page:::Yes but the problem here is that this is not an excellent argument, it is waffle and it does not deal with the long debate around this issue which Watkins himself was involved in (See The Ley Hunters Manual}: "But this chance (by accidental coincidence) increases so rapidly in geometric progression with each point added, that if 10 mark points are distributed haphazard on a sheet of paper, there is an average probability that there will be one three point alignment, whiule if only two more points are added to make 12 points, there is a probability of two three point alignments. It is clear that a three-point alignment must not be accepted as proof of a ley by itself, as a fair number of other eligible mark points are usually present. A ley should not be taken as proven with less than four good mark points. Three good points with several others of less value like cross-roads and coinciding tracks may be sufficient." This has been developped by Peter Furness and Robert Forrest and Williamson and Bellamy have given a good review of the material in Ley Lines in Question. As to the question of "expectation", the example of Coin tossing was used to illustrate precisely how bad the question of expectation was used in this piece. Therefore the probabilty piece should be removed until something a bit more relevant is produced. As for the first section, yes this does need more work, not just on it, but also around it, which is why i have been working on ordnance Survey, O. G. S. Crawford and Alfred Watkins himself.Harry Potter 23:09 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * I think there are several issues here:
 * a) Watkins is talking about there only being ten or twelve points on a map. Is this because the number of feartures was much less then than now (probably thanks to the innovations of people like O. G. S. Crawford
 * b) The probablistic explanation is poorly put - e.g. in the comparison of w with d, it is moving a line length d across a square (or is it a circle, because the word diameter appears in the text) and does not take account that many lines connecting two points randomly selected within a square would be of shorter or longer length.
 * c) No account is taken of the fact that ancient monuments are not distributed randomly
 * d) In such books as The Ley Hunter's Companion ley lines with 6, 7, and 8 points are put forward, so the pictures of all the 4-point lines are beside the point In fact the probability argument ends up showing that such alignments are very unlikely in a random distributioin of points, as shown by the maths on the talk page.
 * e) Two other key questions are side stepped in this mathematical model: the size of the monuments and the earths curvature - "This can be ignored when dealing when keeping to one sheet of a inch map" says Watkins and he is unable to come up with answers to these questions "which are clear working instructions".

Clearly this needs reworking before being put up again!Harry Potter 00:21 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No, you just haven't understood what was written there properly. See my reply on the talk page, and consider the large d values in the examples given. For my conculding argument: take a look at the 5-point and 8-point alignments generated from London's pizza restuarants on the talk page. Actual data, actual alignments. -- The Anome 02:08 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I think there's a problem with the Colorado maps; I was adding them to the articles and noticed the one for Broomfield County, Colorado is missing. I tracked down a map on another site and it looks like they may have redrawn the lines. - Hephaestos 23:55 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Please, can you let User:Wapcaplet know? I'll stop downloading images for a bit. -- The Anome 23:58 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Anomebot is now officially a bot. --Magnus Manske 09:39 14 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Feel free to resume uploading states anytime. Also, after some lengthy discussion, we seem to have come to a consensus regarding the too-tall states (Illinois, etc.). James has created re-sized versions and placed them on his site; he re-sized them all, but I think the only ones that will be different than what you already have are:

 * Arizona
 * California
 * Delaware
 * Idaho
 * Illinois
 * Indiana
 * Maine
 * Minnesota
 * Nevada
 * New Hampshire
 * New Jersey
 * New Mexico
 * Ohio
 * Utah
 * Vermont
 * Wisconsin

I probably missed some; in any case, the images of these states in the above location are good to go whenever you are ready. Thanks! -- Wapcaplet 02:45 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Downloading them now. -- The Anome 09:14 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)
 * Uploading has now reached Kansas. -- The Anome 10:37 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Note: Just testing. Can someone please add this account to the registered bots list, please? -- The Anomebot 12:21 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Just to confirm, Anomebot is me. (See the edit history of this page for proof). -- The Anome 12:22 12 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Recent Changes
The Anomebot's edits are currently visible in Recent Changes, even though Markus has set it to be a registered bot. Currently, there do not seem to be any complaints, so I am letting it run. Is there any chance of a developer checking the current codebase to see if the bot registration is working ok? -- User:The Anome posting as The Anomebot

 * sounds like a bug. Follow links on Bug reports? Martin 10:18 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The account already has bot status. Strangely enough, your edits still show up. I haven't checked yet, but I suspect that the code that checks for the bot flag is not triggered on image uploads. --Eloquence 13:58 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * I think that's what must be happening. Normal edits are indeed hidden, but image downloads are not.-- The Anomebot 15:55 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Would it work to mark them as 'minor', so the 'don't show minor edits' preference would let us filter them out of recent changes? --Delirium 18:30 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * I don't think I can do that (there's no means to indicate that to the software) -- what is needed is for a developer to put the appropriate line of code in the Recent Changes code. Then all the downloads will disappear from everyone's sight. -- The Anome 18:37 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Uploads...

 * That's right. My mistake.

Looks like the uploading is proceeding nicely! I've been busy this week with work and plans for moving, so I unfortunately haven't had time to finish the rest of the states. I have finished a couple, though. Should I e-mail them directly to you, or would you prefer for them to be posted to the same website as the others? Either one is fine with me. Thanks again for your help uploading all these. -- Wapcaplet 12:30 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

 * Please post them on the same website. You can re-use the same directory as last time, I've got update management sorted now. -- The Anomebot 13:01 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Ad hominem attack on articles is a poor policy. No one does it but you - I suggest there is more reason than just "experiment" to join Mav in a truce.

Belief that user X "is" user Y, as defined only by yourself, since you seek no second opinions, and have no special insight, and executed only by yourself, since you have no allies in this political vendetta to promote bias, is not a sufficient reason to do what you do to articles in quite sad shape, due to your interventions. The fact is, no one but us trolls actually care about fixing some of the Larry's Text stuff, and getting it sanely integrated with the rest.

It's past time to adopt some of the smarter solutions User:MyRedDice has suggested. The Wikimedia foundation is supposedly there to replace this absurd patchwork of sysop opinion, with respect to what ought to be in the Wikipedia, and what censored out.

I owe no apologies and offer none, certainly not to Mav, but, that's all over. Now that you are the only one who believes in your own judgement, or this "punishment works" or "hard ban" game that arises clearly and only from your own politics and ignorance of people who run blogs not encyclopedias, I suggest you engage in some dialogue "with Wikimedia" about consistent standards. That might be constructive.

As it is, your selective censorship (reverting some edits you believe to be from your phantoms, but by no means all) is simply evidence of your own political bias. It does not stop me, and never will, but it does reveal much about you.

Truce suggested: no objection will be made to substantive edits or raising of NPOV dispute if you don't trust what you read. Why should you? You have the same right to do these things, with little attention, as others do with bad judgement. This is just normal editing. Raise the disputes without reading, as you have done in the past. Be as suspicous as you feel you need to be.

However, for unsubstantiated, uncommented "reverts" that have no validity other than ad hominem and which degrade the quality of the whole Wikipedia project, allies will be sought to "second" or "vouch for" things - this will leave people engaged in personality-driven edit wars that distract them from quality content. This is at best random interruption of well-meaning folk.

I suggest we avoid it.

To the contributor of the comment above: -- The Anome 20:07 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your point of view.
 * I also believe that the balance of probability is (judging by IP address and writing style) that you are the person whose edits I have been enforcing the ban on.
 * Please understand that we have to do this sort of guesswork for users who will not abide by our policies, but insist on not creating accounts.
 * If you are this person, you will remember that you were banned permanently from Wikipedia some time ago, but that some people are seeking to encourage the new behavior that appears to be associated with your IP address range
 * I am not interfering with these efforts
 * You also seem to be engaging in the dialogue that was sought, and have made many useful and cooperative edits recently
 * Perhaps you should now e-mail Jimbo (who I understand runs the Wikimedia Foundation) to see if you can get him to lift your ban?
 * Until this is the case, please appreciate that you will sometimes be the target of what you see as "selective censorship" if your previous behavior appears to be re-emerging

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Talk:Dissident

missing link
please someone who knows how to do it add the link to the french version Bohan (talk) 20:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

'Scientific dissident" section
I doubt this section belongs here. This is a fringe term. google gives less than 500 hits. - üser:Altenmann >t 14:29, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

The section discusses some scientists who disagreed with prevailing theories, and whose alternative views were subsequently shown to have validity. Isn't this just part of the process by which scientific progress is made? Isambard Kingdom (talk) 14:53, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't see how this is related to the article subject. Disagreements with mainstream are everywhere, in politics, culture, science. The terms "dissident" today has a specific political meaning, and it is the subject of the article. - üser:Altenmann >t 14:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I'd just remove it outright. A section about scientific dissent based upon high-quality sources from the perspective of the history and philosophy of science might be an encyclopedic replacement, as long as it includes well-sourced material on how the phrase is used as propaganda to undermine science- and evidence-based decision making. --Ronz (talk) 15:41, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I just deleted the entire section, because it's frankly a bunch of bull. Questioning the established status quo is a part of the scientific process, ergo none of these people were "dissidents", they were just scientists. The only purpose this section serves is to add credence to the term.142.105.159.60 (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Dear Ronz, Not all scientists try to make large changes in science, the ones that do have been historically treated as dissidents. (as the references I added confirm). One of Michael Faraday's biographers notes that Michael Faraday was both a religious dissenter and a scientific dissenter (against action at a distance) and that the two might not be unrelated. I hope that you put the section on scientific dissenters back.

BinaryPhoton (talk) 16:11, 6 July 2016 (UTC)BinaryPhoton
 * Dear Ronz,

On my website is a personal letter from Erwin Chargaff to me (September 20, 1995) that says "I do not have to tell you that the so-called "scientific community" is one of the most narrowminded lobbies one can imagine." see http://labs.plantbio.cornell.edu/wayne/ at the bottom of the page. Dissidents are truly needed and needed to be recognized in science. BinaryPhoton (talk) 16:22, 6 July 2016 (UTC)BinaryPhoton Hello. Dissidents are part of the political enterprise, the religious enterprise and the scientific enterprise. And they play an important part in all of these processes...sometimes they even change the status quo for the better, sometimes they just present a new and diverse view that others are free to take or leave. I think that the section on scientific dissidents should stay. By the way, I make no profit from my books (the royalties from which go directly to Habitat for Humanity and The Profiles in Courage Award given by the Kennedy Library). I cited them because they are good sources of primary references and analyses of the role dissident scientists play in the scientific enterprise as well as the difficulties they faced in making their contributions. Thanks. BinaryPhoton (talk) 15:54, 6 July 2016 (UTC)BinaryPhoton
 * Dissidents are part of the political enterprise, the religious enterprise and the scientific enterprise. And they play an important part in all of these processes...sometimes they even change the status quo for the better, sometimes they just present a new and diverse view that others are free to take or leave. Says who?
 * Could you please respond to the comments so it doesn't appear you are ignoring them? --Ronz (talk) 15:59, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Still no response. I think the removal is warranted, though problematic while under discussion. I'll copy it for reference. --Ronz (talk) 18:00, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I believe I responded above. IS there something else I can provide for you?

Thanks BinaryPhoton (talk) 18:56, 6 July 2016 (UTC)BinaryPhoton Many hypotheses (e.g. phlogiston, caloric) that were once accepted as proven truth by the scientific authorities and the scientific consensus were later, in the light of new or previously overlooked knowledge, shown to be limited in scope—if not wrong. Thomas Young, who questioned the dogma of those who narrowly followed Isaac Newton,  is an example of a scientific dissident in the field of optics. James Croll, who questioned the dogma that the ice ages were exclusively the result of geological process, is an example of a scientific dissident in the field of geology. Hermann Staudinger, who questioned the dogma that high molecular mass polymers were just artifacts due to the aggregation of small molecules into colloids, is an example of a scientific dissident in chemistry. James B. Sumner, who questioned the dogma that proteins only performed a structural function and could not be enzymes, is an example of a scientific dissident in biochemistry. Barbara McClintock, who questioned the dogma that the genome was stable, is an example of a dissident scientist in biology and genetics. She described the response to her work, for which she later earned the Nobel Prize, as "puzzlement, and, in some instances, hostility." Peter D. Mitchell, who questioned the dogma that ATP was formed by substrate-level phosphorylation, proposed the chemiosmotic mechanism of ATP synthesis and is an example of a scientific dissident in the field of bioenergetics. After winning the Nobel Prize for his work, Mitchell repeated the observation first made my Max Planck, "a new scientific idea does not triumph by convincing its opponents, but rather because its opponents eventually die." Boris Ephrussi and Ruth Sager, who questioned the dogma that heredity could be accounted for exclusively by nuclear genes, are further examples of scientific dissidents in the fields of biology and genetics. Ephrussi famously said, "we cannot determine the truth of a hypothesis by counting the number of people who believe it". From an historical perspective, the scientific dissidents have been an important part of the scientific enterprise.

Dissidents and New Technologies
Hello,

As a part of my school requirement, I am going to make some edits to this article. I am planning to add a paragraph about modern dissidents and their usage of technologies such as Darknet. Please let me know if you have any concerns/suggestions. Thanks Anastasia192 (talk) 23:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Anastasia192Anastasia192 (talk) 23:37, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

 * Please use proper citation formatting, rather than cite to your sandbox. Thank you. Isambard Kingdom (talk) 15:24, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

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"Western Democracy" Dissidents
Whats abbout Dissidents in the West? For example victims of the anti-communist campaigns in the US. --188.152.144.96 (talk) 18:54, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

American Dissidents
Would whistleblowers in the United States who were arrested under the Espionage Act qualify for the article. Many were arrested or had to flee the country. Not exactly on par with some of the fates of the people in this article, but maybe worth mentioning? DukeOfGrammar (talk) 13:57, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:American imperialism

Gone too far
The American Imperialism page has actually gone too far in one direction. Whilst this talk page was initially created to speak regarding the softness of the article regarding the topic, the entire article has been revamped in the opposite direction. Thus, it is still not a neutral article. In most other professional and encyclopedic versions of articles I have read on Wikipedia, historians are cited occasionally to give a point of view, but in this article it is so cluttered with negative historical views of America's foreign policy, you miss out on the actual informative things. A standard middle school textbook does a better job than the current article, which desperately needs to be fixed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.7.66.150 (talk • contribs) 22:41, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Gender and Technoculture 320-01
— Assignment last updated by WGST320 (talk) 01:37, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

is nayirah-al-sabah an example of American Imperialism?
yes no, and does it receive enough attention (WP:UNDUE ig) to have a mention in this article? 98.59.80.64 (talk) 05:12, 8 December 2022 (UTC)

Expansion of timeline
The timeline currently goes only up to the USA in Korea and Vietnam. Needs a massive edit to add everything after that, such as:

Iraq War, Afghanistan, Operation Condor, Grenada, Indonesia and US support of the coup there (Jakarta Method) among many others. Genabab (talk) 21:23, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Gender and Technoculture 320-01
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1800s American expansion through artistic expression
I think that adding a section on how public opinion manifested itself in artistic expression with relation to American expansion would be beneficial in exploring responses and gauging the consensus at the time concerning American pursuits for territory. Looking into how C19th art was used to rally support and criticize US expansion will help conceptualize such a multifaceted period of time Maisiesucks (talk) 21:26, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

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Len Lye

Leonard Charles Huia Lye (5 July 1901 – 15 May 1980) was a New Zealand artist known primarily for his experimental films and kinetic sculpture. His films are held in archives including the New Zealand Film Archive, British Film Institute, Museum of Modern Art in New York City, and the Pacific Film Archive at University of California, Berkeley. Lye's sculptures are found in the collections of the Whitney Museum of American Art, the Art Institute of Chicago, the Albright-Knox Art Gallery and the Berkeley Art Museum. Although he became a naturalized citizen of the United States in 1950, much of his work went to New Zealand after his death, where it is housed at the Govett-Brewster Art Gallery in New Plymouth. He is best remembered for his 1933 short film "experimental Animation 1933," better known as "The Peanut Vendor."

Career
As a student, Lye became convinced that motion could be part of the language of art, leading him to early (and now lost) experiments with kinetic sculpture, as well as a desire to make film. Lye was also one of the first Pākehā artists to appreciate the art of Māori, Australian Aboriginal, Pacific Island and African cultures, and this had great influence on his work. In the early 1920s Lye travelled widely in the South Pacific. He spent extended periods in Australia and Samoa, where he was expelled by the New Zealand colonial administration for living within an indigenous community.

Working his way as a coal trimmer aboard a steam ship, Lye moved to London in 1926. He quickly entered modernist circles, exhibiting with the Seven and Five Society from 1927 until 1934, and becoming affiliated with the Footprints Studio. Most notably, Lye exhibited in the 1936 International Surrealist Exhibition and began to make experimental films. Following his first animated film Tusalava, Lye began to make films in association with the British General Post Office, for the GPO Film Unit. He reinvented the technique of drawing directly on film, producing his animation for the 1935 film A Colour Box, an advertisement for "cheaper parcel post", without using a camera for anything except the title cards at the beginning of the film. It was the first direct film screened to a general audience. It was made by painting vibrant abstract patterns on the film itself, synchronizing them to a popular dance tune by Don Baretto and His Cuban Orchestra. A panel of animation experts convened in 2005 by the Annecy Film Festival put this film among the top ten most significant works in the history of animation (his later film Free Radicals, not completed until 1979, was also in the top 50).

Lye also worked for the GPO Film Unit's successor, the Crown Film Unit producing wartime information films, such as Musical Poster Number One. On the basis of this work, Lye was later offered work for The March of Time newsreel in New York. Leaving his wife and children in England, Lye moved to New York in 1944.

In Free Radicals he used black film stock and scratched designs into the emulsion. The result was a dancing pattern of flashing lines and marks, as dramatic as lightning in the night sky. In 2008, this film was added to the United States National Film Registry.

Lye continued to experiment with the possibilities of direct film-making to the end of his life. In various films he used a range of dyes, stencils, air-brushes, felt tip pens, stamps, combs and surgical instruments, to create images and textures on celluloid. In Color Cry, he employed the "photogram" method combined with various stencils and fabrics to create abstract patterns. It is a 16mm direct film featuring a searing soundtrack by the blues singer Sonny Terry.

As a writer, Len Lye produced a body of work exploring his theory of IHN (Individual Happiness Now). He also wrote a large number of letters and poems. He was a friend of Dylan Thomas, and of Laura Riding and Robert Graves (their Seizin Press published No Trouble, a book drawn from Lye's letters to them, his mother, and others, in 1930). The NZEPC (New Zealand Electronic Poetry Centre) website contains a selection of Lye's writings, which are just as surprising and experimental as his work in other media. One of his theories was that artists attempt to reproduce themselves in their works, which he exposited in an essay complete with visual examples. Lye was also an important kinetic sculptor and what he referred to as "Tangibles". He saw film and kinetic sculpture as aspects of the same "art of motion", which he theorised in a highly original way in his essays (collected in the book Figures of Motion).

Many of his kinetic works can be found at the Govett-Brewster Art Gallery in New Plymouth, Taranaki including a 45-metre high Wind Wand near the sea. The Water Whirler, designed by Lye but never realised in his lifetime, was installed on Wellington's waterfront in 2006. His "Tangibles" were shown at MOMA in New York in 1961 and are now found worldwide. In 1977, Len Lye returned to his homeland to oversee the first New Zealand exhibition of his work at the Govett-Brewster Art Gallery at that time under the directorship of Ron O'Reilly. Shortly before his death in 1980, Lye and his supporters established the Len Lye Foundation, to which he gave his work. The gallery is the repository for much of this collection, employing a full-time curator to ensure its preservation and appropriate exhibition.

Lye was a maverick, never fitting any of the usual art historical labels. Although he did not become a household name, his work was familiar to many film-makers and kinetic sculptors – he was something of an "artist's artist", and his innovations have had an international influence. He is also remembered for his colourful personality, amazing clothes, and highly unorthodox lecturing style (he taught at New York University for three years).

The 21st century has seen renewed international interest in Lye's career with retrospectives held at the Pompidou Centre, Paris in 2000, an Australian touring exhibition organised in 2001 by the Art Gallery of NSW, Sydney, at ACMI, Melbourne in 2009, and at Ikon Gallery, Birmingham, UK in 2010. Similarly, in New Zealand, surveys have been shown at the Gus Fisher Gallery, Auckland in 2009, and City Gallery Wellington in 2013. The University of Auckland staged an opera about his life in 2012.

Personal life
Lye was married twice. His first wife was Jane (Florence Winifred) Thompson with whom he had two children:
 * Bix Lye, also a sculptor, who lived and worked in Williamsburg, New York and Newburgh New York. Died January 2023.
 * Yancy Ning Lou Lye (born 20 May 1940, Chiswick, London)

In Reno, Nevada, in May 1948, Lye married his second wife, Annette "Ann" Zeiss (born 1910, Minnesota) on the same day he obtained a divorce from Jane. Ann was formerly married to Tommy Hindle, a British journalist.

He died in Warwick, New York, in 1980.

Legacy
In 1971 artist Ray Thorburn met with Len Lye and on his return to New Zealand attempted to arrange an exhibition at the National Art Gallery but was rejected. The director of the Govett-Brewster Art Gallery Bob Ballard and local engineer John Matthews were more receptive resulting in Thorburn and Matthews going to New York to discuss an exhibition and the construction of a large work Trilogy with Lye. In 1977 Hamish Keith, Matthews and Thorburn set in motion the formation of a non-profit foundation and in 1980 a Trust Deed resulted in the Len Lye gift to the gallery. The Len Lye Collection and Archive consists of all non-film works in Lye’s possession at the time of his death in 1980, as well as several items that have been given to or otherwise acquired by the Foundation since. This body of work is extended by Len Lye works in the Govett-Brewster Art Gallery. Ngā Taonga Sound & Vision (formerly the New Zealand Film Archive) is the repository of Lye’s film prints that are owned by the Len Lye Foundation, and viewing prints are also in the Collection at the Govett-Brewster. The Len Lye Centre a dedicated gallery for the Len Lye collection connected to the Govett-Brewster was opened on 25 July 2015. This is the first gallery in New Zealand to be dedicated to a single artist.

There are two documentaries about Lye: Flip and Two Twisters, directed by Shirley Horrocks and Doodlin', and a DVD of Lye's talks illustrated with slides: Len Lye Talks about Art.

Filmography

 * Tusalava 10 min (1929)
 * The Peanut Vendor 2 min (1933)
 * A Colour Box 4 min (1935) in Dufaycolor
 * Kaleidoscope 4 min (1935) in Dufaycolor
 * The Birth of The Robot 7 min (1936) in Gasparcolor
 * Rainbow Dance 5 min (1936) in Gasparcolor
 * Trade Tattoo (1937) 5 min in Technicolor
 *  North or Northwest? (N or NW?) 7 min (1938)
 * Colour Flight 4 min (1937) in Gasparcolor
 * Swinging the Lambeth Walk 4 min (1939) in Dufaycolor
 * Musical Poster #1 3 min (1940) in Technicolor
 * When the Pie Was Opened 8 min (1941)
 * Newspaper Train 5 min (1942)
 * Work Party 7 min (1942)
 * Kill or Be Killed 18 min (1942)
 * Collapsible Metal Tubes 90 sec (1942)
 * Planned Crops 90 sec (1942)
 * Cameramen at War 17 min (1943)
 * Color Cry 3 min (1952)
 * Full Fathom Five 1 min (1953)
 * Life's Musical Minute 1 min (1953)
 * All Soul's Carnival 16 min (1957)
 * Rhythm 1 min (1957)
 * Free Radicals 5 min (1958, revised 1979)
 * Prime Time 1 min (1958)
 * Fountain of Hope 1 min (1959)
 * Particles in Space 4 min (1966)
 * Tal Farlow 1min 30sec (completed posthumously, 1980)

title: Len Lye


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Talk:Alexander Haig

Nixon - Kissinger - Haig phone calls
The article contains the following passage:

 * On December 9, 1970, U.S. President Richard Nixon telephoned his national-security adviser, Henry Kissinger, to discuss the ongoing bombing of Cambodia. This sideshow to the war in Vietnam, begun in 1965 under the Johnson administration, had already seen 475,515 tons of ordnance dropped on Cambodia, which had been a neutral kingdom until nine months before the phone call, when pro-U.S. General Lon Nol seized power. The first intense series of bombings, the Menu campaign on Vietnamese targets in Cambodia's border areas - which American commanders labeled Breakfast, Lunch, Supper, Dinner, Dessert, and Snack - had concluded in May, 1970 shortly after the coup.
 * Nixon was facing growing congressional opposition to his Indochina policy. A joint U.S.-South Vietnam ground invasion of Cambodia in May and June of 1970 had failed to root out Vietnamese Communists, and Nixon now wanted to covertly escalate the air attacks, which were aimed at destroying the mobile headquarters of the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Army (vc/nva) in the Cambodian jungle. After telling Kissinger that the U.S. Air Force was being unimaginative, Nixon demanded more bombing, deeper into the country: "They have got to go in there and I mean really go in ... I want everything that can fly to go in there and crack the hell out of them. There is no limitation on mileage and there is no limitation on budget. Is that clear?"
 * Kissinger knew that this order ignored Nixon's promise to Congress that U.S. planes would remain within thirty kilometres of the Vietnamese border, his own assurances to the public that bombing would not take place within a kilometre of any village, and military assessments stating that air strikes were like poking a beehive with a stick. He responded hesitantly: "The problem is, Mr. President, the Air Force is designed to fight an air battle against the Soviet Union. They are not designed for this war ... in fact, they are not designed for any war we are likely to have to fight."
 * Five minutes after his conversation with Nixon ended, Kissinger called General Alexander Haig to relay the new orders from the president: "He wants a massive bombing campaign in Cambodia. He doesn't want to hear anything. It's an order, it's to be done. Anything that flies, on anything that moves. You got that?" The response from Haig, barely audible on tape, sounds like laughter.

This may all be accurate or inaccurate - what is for certain is that it is unsourced. Furthermore, most (and that means over 90%) deals with Nixon and Kissinger and not with Haig. Sure, some background information is needed to understand Haig's action but a) this is way too much, b) it remains unclear what Haig actually did in this context apart from receiving Kissinger'S phone call and giving a barely audible, laughter-like response.

This seems like a case of undue weight. This allegation is supported by the previous version which unenclopedically highlighting certain items by boldening and/or repeating them.

If no source or rationale is given within the next few days, I will delete the entire passage quoted above. Str1977 (talk) 16:13, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

 * Since the passage was added only in February by an IP with a red-linked talk page and only one other, clearly vandalistic edit under his belt, I will speed things ups and delete it now (also in the light of BLP). The passage is retained on the talk page for all to see. Str1977 (talk) 16:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey, State Department janitor: where do you get off on censoring American massacres around the world? Is 2-3 million in Laos, Cambodia or Viet Nam not enough? Or would that likely offend the sensitivity of virgin American eyes idolizing a criminal like Haig? Mind you, the average American today hasn't heard the name of the criminal. Or maybe you need to see it in an All-American history textbook? Moron, open your eyes. If you think censoring this ridiculous site helps people keep shopping like dimwits while over 1,000 bases around the world effectively dominate other nations then you're beyond help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.105.30 (talk) 01:37, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Death details in lead
The vast majority of Wikipedia biographies about octogenarians who died of natural causes do not mention the cause of death in the lead. Jim Michael (talk) 04:18, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

World War II Victory Medal
Will someone who knows how the American military defined war time service please explain how Haig qualified for the World War II Victory Medal if he didn't graduate from West Point until 1947? Did transfering to West Point from a civilian college in 1945 and being a cadet from the fall of 1945 through the spring of 1947 count as war time service?

I'm not here to take sides on "great statesman vs. American war criminal" debate that some of you are into. All I'm asking for is an objective explanation on how he served in World War II. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.47.232 (talk) 09:14, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The basis for the decoration was not that one must serve during WWII itself but a larger window. From World War II Victory Medal (United States) - "is awarded to any member of the United States military, including members of the armed forces of the Government of the Philippine Islands, who served on active duty, or as a reservist, between December 7, 1941 and December 31, 1946."  One would imagine that given his academy dates it would have counted as "active duty".  Hopefully another editor can confirm. — MrDolomite • Talk 15:09, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I am the one who added in the Victory Medal and American Campaign Medal. Being in West Point is being in the military. You take an oath and are a service member. For example, today all cadets are awarded the National Defense Service medal for their service in the War on Terror.

All cadets that were cadets as of Dec. 31, 1946 were awarded the World War II Victory medal. All cadets that were cadets by March 1946 were awarded the American Campaign Medal.

This site- -shows the ribbons. They are the first two, the third row from the bottom.--Panzertank (talk) 21:03, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

Removing excess and irrelevant project headers
I don't see any reason for the Pennsylvania or Business Wikiproject tags to be on this article. He has no notable association with Pennsylvania beyond childhood and early education. In any event, it looks like a bot went rather crazy putting Pennsylvania tags on probably every article with the word Pennsylvania in it. As for Business, he spent a couple of years in private industry, accomplishing nothing of note. The tags just seem excessive and unnecessary, especially as the article already falls under a number of legitimate tags. I will go ahead and prune those two tags. Safiel (talk) 04:39, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I believe it is standard practise for a project banner for the state the subject grew up in to be on the talk page of his article. I believe that he fits the criteria for the Business project due to the high-ranking positions he held in a major company, even though they only employed him for a couple of years. Does anyone know whether he does fit the criteria for each of these projects? Jim Michael (talk) 03:53, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Kissinger Wikiquote: dumb stupid animals
As per http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger :

 * In Haig's presence, Kissinger referred pointedly to military men as "dumb, stupid animals to be used" as pawns for foreign policy. Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein, in The Final Days, Ch. 14

Can this much repeated quote of Kissinger be attributed. I think this would be worthy of comment on this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.129.25 (talk) 23:41, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

 * It is unsubstantiated, and Henry Kissinger has denied ever saying it, here.

 * The only evidence that Kissinger ever said anything like that was a claim by Woodward & Bernstein in their book, The Final Days, that another of Kissinger's political foes, Alexander Haig, had told someone unnamed, that Kissinger had said it. That's triple hearsay, made even weaker by the fact that one of the "Chinese whisperers" is anonymous, and weaker yet by the fact that the other three (Haig, Woodward & Bernstein) all hated Kissinger. The quote has been substantiated by no one of known identity who claimed to have heard it.

 * As Kirkus Reviews noted about the whole book, "none of it is substantiated in any assessable way."

 * What's more, Woodward's trustworthiness is doubtful, since he was caught fabricating an elaborate fictional deathbed confession by Wm Casey for a later book, Veil.

 * In fact, the Kissinger quote is not even really plausible, on its face. Kissinger served with great distinction in the U.S. Army during WWII, and was awarded the Bronze Star. He has always been very respectful of other servicemen and their sacrifices. For him to have said such a thing would have been wildly out of character. In fact, the awkward phrasing doesn't even sound like Kissinger, whose English prose is consistently measured and careful, despite his heavy accent, even when he speaks extemporaneously. NCdave (talk) 16:39, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Haig funeral citation
I don't have an account and don't plan to do a lot of editing on Wikipedia, but I posted the details of Alexander Haig's funeral because I was there, as a paid singer in the Choir of the Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. There is nothing on their website (bnsic.org) about the service. Surprisingly, I haven't found much media coverage of the funeral at all, but here is a notice:

http://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/news/content/community/2010/02/25/Haigfuneral0226.html captured 3/8/2010 at 4:15pm EST.

As far as who gave the eulogies, I guess you have to take my word for it or find independent confirmation someplace else. I have a program from the service, but it isn't published anywhere. I don't plan to pursue this any further.

21:21, 8 March 2010 (UTC)RB

Historic quote
I saw Alexander Haig in a documentary saying "President Johnson came and said 'the American people must never believe anything else than a lone gunman shot Kennedy'." I did not make a note what the docu was, as I was not anticipating to pass it on. If anybody knows that docu and can insert it in the article, maybe this is worth doing? Please note, Haig was not quoted as having said that, he said it on camera. 144.136.176.157 (talk) 05:33, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

"Murderer" in article lead
Regardless of one's opinion of Haig, I'm not sure "murderer" in the first sentence of the article meets the idea of neutral POV. Also, not sure that a link to some Pink Floyd lyrics constitutes sufficient sourcing for such a claim, so I deleted both. 74.33.84.52 (talk) 19:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * That edit with the Pink Floyd link has showed up repeatedly. Nuke on sight. Meters (talk) 19:22, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Falklands war 1982
It has just emerged that Haig wanted to warn Argentina just before the retaking of South Georgia, to give the appearance of being an honest broker between both sides! (newly released British files Telegraph, 28 Dec 2012). Bad advisors or what?86.42.197.104 (talk) 14:55, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Song references
Haig is mentioned – rather unflatteringly – in a number of popular songs (Pink Floyd, Dead Kennedys, Fifteen).

What is the best way to cite such references?

I placed the following citation in the article (under "References in popular culture"), for example, and it was removed due to "unreliable sourcing":

Haig accused of "crimes of violence against humanity" in the 1996 song "Landmine" by the punk rock band Fifteen.

Would Last.fm be a better choice? It includes not only videos such as the one cited above, but also links to stream and/or purchase the original work, and links to lyrics. Granted, this is all less than ideal, but I don't know of any other way to cite the song lyrics other than to simply say, "go listen to the song" or "read the liner notes" - those are pretty much the most direct sources possible. Thoughts?

Example song references:
 * "Land mine" by Fifteen
 * "Fletcher memorial home" by Pink Floyd
 * "We've got a bigger problem now" by Dead Kennedys

 * I think the best way to mention this is not to at all. It is really not that big a deal.  Dbrodbeck (talk) 20:03, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I couldn't disagree more vehemently. As a librarian/historian/researcher, I know this kind of information is extremely useful for understanding an individual's cultural context, which is essential for historians, biographers, filmmakers, and more. So can anyone answer the question of how to reliably cite a song? Ebellempire (talk) 22:21, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

 * The opinion of some random punk rocker might be worth a clause somewhere in a 1000-page biography. In a brief encyclopedia article (rarely used by serious historians and researchers), it's severely undue weight. Fat&Happy (talk) 23:57, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup, this would be classic WP:UNDUE. Dbrodbeck (talk) 04:03, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

pop culture section
How much of this is notable at all? He was parodied in a couple of places and mentioned in a video game. Is this not just a big case of WP:UNDUE? Dbrodbeck (talk) 15:19, 22 December 2013 (UTC)

 * Unless and until clear guidance is formulated and enforced, articles like this are always going to be plagued with a list of appearances in Family Guy and Dino Yacht Club (cough). Problem is that the pop culture sections bring in a lot of pageviews - TVTropes grew huge on this kind of thing - and ultimately you're going to butt up against Wikipedia's strategic goals, in which case it was nice knowing you, don't let the door hit you on the way out. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 23:38, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Minor edit war
Can someone besides me please revert Renfield1031, who has started a trivial edit war to include unsourced commentary in this article? I asked him for sources, but he continues to revert with no edit summaries or discussion.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 19:39, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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"Haig, who repeatedly had difficulty with various members of the Reagan administration during his year-and-a-half in office, decided to resign his post on June 25, 1982.[36] President Reagan accepted his resignation on July 5 ."''. The underlined sentence is wrong.

washingtonpost.com 26 June 1982: [https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/06/26/haig-resigns-at-state/83660202-a2cd-4aa3-b538-4dc77f0d5b5f/?utm_term=.da826f9182e0 ''Alexander M. Haig Jr., charging that U.S. foreign policy no longer reflects "consistency, clarity and steadiness of purpose," abruptly resigned yesterday as secretary of state. President Reagan immediately chose former treasury secretary George P. Shultz to replace him.'']

Phillip G. Henderson (Managing The Presidency: The Eisenhower Legacy--from Kennedy To Reagan, May 2019) writes (chapter The Quest for Control: Haif versus the White House Staff):
 * Ten days later [on June 24], ''Haif met with the president again. [...] In his account of tghe meeting, Haig reveals that he told the President that if matters could nbot be strasightened out, "then surely you would be better served by another Secretary of State".

The next day, Reagan gave Haig a letter saying that he accepted Haig's resignation. --Neun-x (talk) 06:44, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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