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Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2016-02/Entry name 3

Entry name 3
Voting on:

Adding some text in WT:EL. (added text is underlined) The name of the entry is the term, phrase, symbol, morpheme or other lexical unit being defined.

For languages with two cases of script, the entry name usually begins with a lowercase letter. For example, use for the English noun and verb, not "". Words and phrases which begin with a capital letter in running text are exceptions. Typical examples include proper nouns, German nouns , and many abbreviations. Compare: and. If someone tries accessing the entry with incorrect capitalization, the software will try to redirect to the correct page automatically.

Omit an initial article unless it makes a difference in the meaning. E.g., instead of. For multi-word entries, prefer the generic personal pronoun for the main entry. (,, , , etc.) Common forms with other pronouns are usually redirected to the main form. For example, would be the main entry and these are some entries that would redirect to it:, , , , , etc. Use the infinitive form of the verb (but without ) for the principal verb of a verbal phrase, for example:. In English, sometimes the lemma should include a specific personal pronoun. For example, the proverb would be the lemma, not. For prefixes, suffixes and other morphemes in most languages, place the character "-" where it links with other words:, , , etc.

When multiple capitalizations, punctuation, diacritics, ligatures, scripts and combinations with numbers and other symbols exist, such as (as in "frying pan"),  (the Greek god),  (meaning "all-") and  (Japanese for "bread"), use the template  at the top of the page to cross-link between them. When there are too many variations, place them in a separate appendix page, in this case Appendix:Variations of "pan".

Use the "Alternative forms" header for variations of the same word kept in multiple pages, includ ing :

 * regional variations:, ; ,
 * historical variations:, ; ,
 * hyphenization/compounds:, ,
 * style variation: ,
 * some misspellings: see WT:CFI
 * uncertain capitalization: ,
 * different scripts:, (Serbo-Croatian for ) (sometimes, this is located in the headword line)

Some page titles can't be created because of restrictions in the software, usually because they contain certain symbols such as # or |, or are too long. The full list of those entries is at Appendix:Unsupported titles. They are named using the descriptive format "Unsupported titles/Number sign", while using JavaScript to show the correct title like a normal entry.

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 * References

Removing the whole section WT:CFI.

Many phrases take several forms. It is not necessary to include every conceivable variant. When present, minor variants should simply redirect to the main entry. For the main entry, prefer the most generic form, based on the following principles:
 * Idiomatic phrases

Prefer the generic personal pronoun, one or one’s. Thus, feel one’s oats is preferable to feel his oats. Use of other personal pronouns, especially in the singular, should be avoided except where they are essential to the meaning.
 * Pronouns (subsection)

Omit an initial article unless it makes a difference in the meaning. E.g., cat’s pajamas instead of the cat’s pajamas.
 * Articles (subsection)

Use the infinitive form of the verb (but without “to”) for the principal verb of a verbal phrase. Thus for the saying It’s raining cats and dogs, or It was raining cats and dogs, or I think it’s going to rain cats and dogs any minute now, or It’s rained cats and dogs for the last week solid the entry should be (and is) under rain cats and dogs. The other variants are derived by the usual rules of grammar (including the use of it with weather terms and other impersonal verbs).
 * Verbs (subsection)

A proverb entry's title begins with a lowercase letter, whether it is a full sentence or not. The first word may still be capitalized on its own:
 * Proverbs (subsection)
 * you can't judge a book by its cover
 * Rome wasn't built in a day

Rules moved from WT:CFI to WT:EL:
 * prefer the generic personal pronoun, one or one’s
 * omit the initial article
 * use the infinitive form of the verb (without to)
 * a proverb entry's title begins with a lowercase letter

New rules added to WT:EL which weren't taken from WT:CFI:
 * use redirects in some cases
 * explaining the difference between -related entries and alternative forms
 * mentioning that sometimes, different scripts are found in the headword line

Rationale:
 * Having a more complete WT:EL by adding some entry name information that wasn't there yet.
 * Removing WT:CFI; arguably, the affected rules are not about criteria for inclusion.

Schedule:
 * Vote starts: 00:00, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Vote created: --Daniel Carrero (talk) 21:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/February
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/pl-2016-02/Entry name 3

Support

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:06, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) The "compare" doesn't flow well and is missing context; the second paragraph talks about a grab-bag of different things (articles, pronouns, infinitives, affixes) in no particular order, which might be better served by splitting it into smaller paragraphs of one or two sentences each; the sentence "In English, sometimes the lemma should include a specific personal pronoun. For example, the proverb you can't fight City Hall would be the lemma, not one can't fight City Hall" doesn't make any sense to me and needs to be better explained; vague remarks like "sometimes, this is located in the headword line" (when is "sometimes"?) are decidedly unhelpful in a policy document. I like to think of myself as a positive person, and yet I'm opposing almost all of this vote, but there you are... This, that and the other (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your feedback, I'll use it in a later vote after this one ends. :) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:18, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Only controversial changes need to be voted on. Copyediting doesn't need to be voted on, and shouldn't be (it's annoying bureaucracy). - -sche (discuss) 05:46, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  Needs rewrite. Not worth rewriting. DCDuring TALK  13:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  I'm not sure why we are replacing something simple and organized with something complicated and disorganized. --WikiTiki89 20:11, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  mostly because you can't fight City Hall is linked but isn't a page :o -Xbony2 (talk) 19:31, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 4) I feel like this "rewrite" takes away more than it gains. --Neskaya sprecan? 16:33, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Firstly, since Japanese get Romanisation entries, I don't think  would/should be included in the  list for . Secondly, – is a better example of a historically varying spelling than –. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:44, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Decision
Fails 1–5. This, that and the other (talk) 09:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)


text:
नै

Particle

 * 1) emphatic particle, emphasising the word it follows

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: नै


text:
बिकास

Noun

 * 1) Alternative form of.

title: बिकास


text:
सहचर

Noun

 * 1) companion, friend

title: सहचर


text:
puremalihas

Noun

 * 1)  muscle of mastication

title: puremalihas


text: 买进

title: 买进


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/stanъ

Etymology
From, from , from. Morphologically. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) stature, stand
 * 2) camp
 * 3) frame
 * → loom (secondary)
 * → mill (secondary)

Descendants

 * East Slavic:
 * South Slavic:
 * Old Church Slavonic:
 * Cyrillic:
 * Glagolitic:
 * West Slavic:
 * Pomeranian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Cyrillic:
 * Glagolitic:
 * West Slavic:
 * Pomeranian:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Pomeranian:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Pomeranian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Pomeranian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:

 * Non-Slavic:

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/stanъ


text: Category:Proto-Slavic terms derived from the Proto-Indo-European root *steh₂-


text:
買進

Verb

 * 1) to purchase; to buy

title: 買進


text: mǎijìn

title: mǎijìn


text: 节点

title: 节点


text:
節點

Noun

 * 1)  node

title: 節點


text: jiédiǎn

title: jiédiǎn


text:
सन्देश

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) message
 * 2) news, information

title: सन्देश


text: 北区

title: 北区


text: 东区

title: 东区


text: 南区

title: 南区


text: 西区

title: 西区


text:
北區

Noun

 * 1) northern district

title: 北區


text:
東區

Noun

 * 1) eastern district

title: 東區


text:
南區

Noun

 * 1) southern district

title: 南區


text:
西區

Noun

 * 1) western district

title: 西區


text: běiqū

title: běiqū


text: dōngqū

title: dōngqū


text: nánqū

title: nánqū


text: xīqū

title: xīqū


text:
भिडियो

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) video

title: भिडियो


text:
तर

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) wet, soaked, moist
 * 2) fresh
 * 3) cool, cold
 * 4) splendid, great
 * 1) cool, cold
 * 2) splendid, great
 * 1) splendid, great

Conjunction

 * 1) then

Interjection

 * 1) so, consequently, in that case

Noun

 * 1) boat, ferry, raft

Conjunction

 * 1) but, nevertheless

Noun

 * 1) cream; milk skin, lactoderm

Noun

 * 1) Crossing
 * 2) Surpassing, excelling
 * 3) Conquering, overpowering
 * 4) Freight
 * 5) road
 * 6) ferry-boat
 * 7) Fire

title: तर


text: bàituō

title: bàituō


text: zhěntou

title: zhěntou


text:
यस

Pronoun

 * 1) Inflected form of.

Noun

 * , which is and alternative stem thereof

title: यस


text:
लेखहरू

Noun

 * 1) Inflected form of.

title: लेखहरू


text: zhěntào

title: zhěntào


text: zànshǎng

title: zànshǎng


text: high context culture

title: high context culture


text: high context cultures

title: high context cultures


text:
वास्तविक संख्या

Noun

 * 1) real number

title: वास्तविक संख्या


text: 铜像

title: 铜像


text:
महिना

Noun

 * 1) month

title: महिना


text: tóngxiàng

title: tóngxiàng


text:
वास्तविक

Etymology
Likely from.

Adjective

 * 1) real, existent
 * 2) genuine
 * 3) truthful

title: वास्तविक


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/staviti

Etymology
From, from , from. Cognate with 🇨🇬 and akin to 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to place, put
 * 2) to incorporate into

Descendants

 * East Slavic:
 * South Slavic:
 * Old Church Slavonic:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * South Slavic:
 * Old Church Slavonic:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * West Slavic:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:
 * Sorbian:

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Slavic/staviti


text:
भन्दा

Postposition

 * 1) than, more ... than

title: भन्दा


text:
गरेर

Noun

 * 1) Circuit; round

Adverb

 * 1) Around, round about; siege, surrounding
 * 2) winding, spiral

Verb

 * 1) Inflected form of.

title: गरेर


text:
बिभिन्न

Adjective

 * 1) many different, diverse, varied

title: बिभिन्न


text: 到时候

title: 到时候


text:
high-context culture

Etymology
Coined by anthropologist Edward T. Hall in his 1976 book Beyond Culture

Noun

 * 1) A culture in which communication relies heavily on context, leaving many things implied rather than explicitly put into words.

title: high-context culture


text: high-context cultures

title: high-context cultures


text: छैन

title: छैन


text:
到時候

Adverb

 * 1) when the time comes

title: 到時候


text: dàoshíhòu

title: dàoshíhòu


text: 慕尼黑

title: 慕尼黑


text: Mùníhēi

title: Mùníhēi


text:
भने

Etymology
From.

Conjunction

 * 1) if
 * 2) what if
 * 1) what if

title: भने


text: Kūnmíng

title: Kūnmíng


text: low context culture

title: low context culture


text: low context cultures

title: low context cultures


text:
low-context culture

Etymology
Coined by anthropologist Edward T. Hall in his 1976 book Beyond Culture

Noun

 * 1) A culture in which communication tends to be explicit, with little reliance on context or shared understandings to convey meaning.

title: low-context culture


text: low-context cultures

title: low-context cultures


text:
kniving

Etymology 1
Inflected form of.

Etymology 2
Possibly from misunderstanding of the spoken word as kniving with a pronounced k, perhaps influenced by its semantic associations with backstabbing and knives.

title: kniving


text:
knived

Etymology 1
From, with -f- changed to -v- as in the plural.

Etymology 2
From.

title: knived


text:
teremôt

Noun

 * 1)  earthquake

title: teremôt


text:
फ़ज़ूल

Adjective

 * 1) pointless, futile

title: फ़ज़ूल


text: tèrratremols

title: tèrratremols


text:
अकारथ

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) futile, pointless

Adverb

 * 1) ineffectually

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) meaningless, unsuccessful, futile

title: अकारथ


text: valsane

title: valsane


text: tèrratrems

title: tèrratrems


text:
unluxuriant

Adjective

 * 1) Not luxuriant.

title: unluxuriant


text:
bat detector

Noun

 * 1) A device that helps to identify the presence of bats by converting their echolocation ultrasound signals to audible frequencies.

title: bat detector


text: bat detectors

title: bat detectors


text:
coemerge

Verb

 * 1) To emerge together.

title: coemerge


text: coemerged

title: coemerged


text: coemerges

title: coemerges


text: coemerging

title: coemerging


text:
erythroferrone

Noun

 * 1) A protein hormone produced by erythroblasts that inhibits the action of hepcidin and so increases the amount of iron available for hemoglobin synthesis.

title: erythroferrone


text:
heterogeneric

Adjective

 * 1) Of different genera.

title: heterogeneric


text:
intergenogroup

Adjective

 * 1) Between genogroups.

title: intergenogroup


text:
noninhibitor

Noun

 * 1) A substance that is not an inhibitor.

title: noninhibitor


text: noninhibitors

title: noninhibitors


text:
भाडा

Noun

 * 1) hire, rent

title: भाडा


text:
कुइरो

Noun

 * 1) fog, mist

title: कुइरो


text: discolorates

title: discolorates


text:
undemonstrated

Adjective

 * 1) Not demonstrated.

title: undemonstrated


text:
unablated

Adjective

 * 1) Not ablated.

title: unablated


text:
कुइरे

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) misty
 * 2)  blue or grey

Noun

 * 1) A person with blue or grey eyes (usually considered inauspicious in Nepali culture)
 * 2) A Caucasian foreigner with blue or grey eyes;  American; European; Westerner

title: कुइरे


text: chondroprogenitors

title: chondroprogenitors


text:
dirofilarial

Adjective

 * 1) Of or relating to the, a genus of nematodes.

title: dirofilarial


text: endotransglycosylases

title: endotransglycosylases


text:
डुल्नु

Verb

 * 1) to walk around; to wander, roam
 * 2) to hang out; to loiter

title: डुल्नु


text:
graviportality

Noun

 * 1) The quality of being graviportal.

title: graviportality


text:
intrascanner

Adjective

 * 1) Within a single scanner.

title: intrascanner


text:
बारेमा

Postposition

 * 1) (-को बारेमा) about, concerning

title: बारेमा


text:
захидал

Noun

 * 1) letter (written message)

title: захидал


text:
osteopathological

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to osteopathology.

title: osteopathological


text: racemisations

title: racemisations


text:
захиа

Noun

 * 1) letter ; message

title: захиа


text:
यसै

Etymology
+

Adverb

 * 1) just

title: यसै


text:
triciribine

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  A cell-permeable tricyclic nucleoside used to treat cancer.

title: triciribine


text:
cabotegravir

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  An integrase inhibitor used to treat HIV infection.

title: cabotegravir


text:
चरित्र

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) conduct, behaviour
 * 2) (good) character, nature
 * 3)  a character
 * 1)  a character

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) conduct, behaviour
 * 2) moral character

Etymology
From, from +. The Sanskrit root is.

Noun

 * 1) a foot, leg
 * 2) going
 * 3) acting, behaviour, habit, practice
 * 4) nature, disposition
 * 1) acting, behaviour, habit, practice
 * 2) nature, disposition

title: चरित्र


text: cannabimimetics

title: cannabimimetics


text:
intermonth

Adjective

 * 1) Between months.

title: intermonth


text:
intramonth

Adjective

 * 1) Within a single month.

title: intramonth


text: reprepared

title: reprepared


text: reprepares

title: reprepares


text: repreparing

title: repreparing


text:
unlimiting

Adjective

 * 1) Not limiting.

title: unlimiting


text:
prãshescu

Etymology
. Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to hoe

title: prãshescu


text:
Module talk:yi-verb

Just a reminder
That I'll add a whole lot of prefixed and compound verbs as soon as there is support for them. :) —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:32, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * As above. I have a pile of prefixed verbs just waiting to be added as I go through adding everything else. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:05, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. But I've been kind of busy. I'm barely keeping up with what's going on around here. --WikiTiki89 18:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand, and I hope that my pestering you hasn't been merely an annoyance. I'm trying to focus on Yiddish on Wiktionary to help in my quest toward fluency, hence my insistence. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:39, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

 * An additional problem to fix: I have hardcoded the correct 2nd person singular form at, but really the module should be fixed so that it generates the correct form. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:24, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I reverted that edit before I saw this post. Anyway, are you sure that you are right about that? I had done not-so-thorough investigating before writing the module to confirm that the z is dropped in the spelling of the 2nd-person singular, but I may have been wrong. --WikiTiki89 19:27, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sure, at least for Standard Yiddish (and BGC confirms it as far more common for most writings in aggregate). —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:29, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * But is that the general case for all z-stem verbs, or only for muzn? I already went ahead and changed the module, but I still want to be sure that that was the right thing to do. --WikiTiki89 19:33, 28 March 2016 (UTC)
 * All z-stem verbs, yes. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 20:46, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

 * I'll have a lot of time soon to add verbs, so I hope you'll have to chance to work on the module at some point. Just to collate a couple more requests so that they're all on this page:
 * Verbs with alternate participles
 * It should handle verbs with supporting ע like or  more intelligently
 * —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The first step would be to document the existing features better (take a look at my edits to and, I could make the module a little bit smarter in those cases, but it's pretty good as it is). Now the question I've been struggling with is how to link separable prefixes. There are two things I don't like about the way German does it. One thing is that they are really adverbs, not prefixes. Thus, I think ausgehen = aus + gehen makes more sense than ausgehen = aus- + gehen (this applies mostly to etymology sections). The other thing is that I don't think we need to link to or create form-of entries for things like gehe aus. We should either link these forms as "gehe aus", or as "gehe aus". What do you think. --WikiTiki89 23:59, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I suppose you meant and, rather? I agree, the module does do a pretty good job: I just need better documentation.
 * As for the prefixes, they are indeed adverbs, but they are often written the same way as prepositions. The prepositions, however, are distinct (in the case of, at least some speakers use /uf/ for the adverb/prefix and /af/ for the preposition). I would rather keep the information on the adverb at to avoid confusing the two and have them link to each other prominently, but I'm open to other solutions.
 * I like the [[gehe]] [[aus]] solution best (and if I had my way, gehe aus would be deleted). —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 00:09, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * (Yes that's what I meant, copy/past error.) The adverb is not always prefixed (such as when it comes after the verb), therefore, still needs to contain the information for both the preposition and for the adverb. We maybe should still have an entry for  and just call it a "prefixed form of" and not link to it from etymologies. The thing is, I think of ausgehen as a compound of adverb + verb, just like Weißbier is a compound of adjective + noun. That doesn't make weiß- a prefix, so why should aus- be a prefix? --WikiTiki89 00:23, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that's a pretty good argument by my lights, and the only thing that keeps me hesitant is that Germanic lexicographical tradition seems to be against you — compare aus- and aus. Yiddish traditionally follows German in these regards, and I think that it is best for us to keep to the traditional presentation rather than make innovations that the German Wiktionarians and other lexicographers have not. Another concern is that marking them as prefixes allows for effective categorisation by prefix, which is a handy feature. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:14, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Did you suddenly turn British? Categorisation? Anyway, the categorization problem can be solved by the conjugation module itself. I can make it automatically categorize separable verbs like Category:Yiddish separable verbs with אויף. I don't think the traditional representation is really that traditional. --WikiTiki89 12:21, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Actually, I've been spelling this way for years. It's my own personal set of orthographic norms, approximately the same as 19th-c. Canada. Anyway, that would be an even better solution to categorising, but perhaps can give their input on whether  is a real prefix or not? I'd just like a linguistically-informed native speaker of such a language to weigh in first. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:29, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There's some disagreement over whether everything added to the front of various verbs is a prefix or whether some things are adverbs, but aus- is pretty well on the prefix side of things. The Duden and other dictionaries (e.g. DWDS) tend to consider (all?) common front-end-additions to be prefixes: see [//www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/herbei_ Duden: herbei-], [//www.dwds.de/?view=1&qu=herbei- DWDS: herbei-]; [//www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/zurueck_ Duden: zurück-], [//www.dwds.de/?view=1&qu=zur%C3%BCck- DWDS: zurück-]; [//www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/aus_ Duden: aus-], [//www.dwds.de/?qu=aus- DWDS: aus-]. Wiktionary deleted Talk:herbei-, and arguments were made (unsuccessfully) for deleting Talk:zurück-, but note that in the first discussion Liliana contrasts herbei- with "true prefixes, like ab-, an-, aus-". Aus- also applies to nouns like Ausland (nouns which aren't substantivizations of verbs), where it carries the same semantic values. - -sche (discuss) 17:27, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So what exactly distinguishes aus- from herbei-? Is it just the fact that verbs with aus- do not always have predictable meanings? What I would consider "true" prefixes would be be-, ge-, er-, etc. --WikiTiki89 18:22, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * One argument, made by Liliana on Talk:herbei-, is that "herbei" is always separable; you can say "herbei führen" even in the infinitive (sometimes with a different sense, but sometimes with the same sense; either way significantly less common but attested), whereas if you separate "aus-" or "auf-" in places where separable prefixes aren't separable, you get a different meaning or gibberish: "bitte auf hören!" doesn't make sense, and likewise with many "aus-" words.
 * Also, "aus-" must be a prefix on nouns — I can't think of any examples of adverb+noun compound words — and Occam's razor prefers the explanation "it attaches like a prefix to both nouns and verbs, and it is a prefix on both" to "it attaches like a prefix to both nouns and verbs, and it is a prefix on nouns, but on verbs it's not".
 * These points are separate. I can't think of any nouns that were formed by the addition of "herbei(-)" (although some substantivized verbs contain it), but even if there were one, one could argue that the separability of "herbei" from verbs even in the infinitive renders the Occam argument less applicable, since "herbei" doesn't (obligatorily) "attach[] like a prefix to both [certain] nouns and verbs" the way "aus-" does.
 * I'm not sure how much of this is applicable to Yiddish, though. Consider that our Dutch entries reportedly consider separable "prefixes" to be adverbs (I don't know if that's also how other Dutch dictionaries and grammars handle them or not). - -sche (discuss) 22:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Yiddish does work the same way in all these respects, except the orthographic ones (which are a bit irregularly applied, but follow Standard High German in Standard Yiddish). I'm glad I asked your opinion. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 22:38, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 * , it's my latest plea. I'm working on full fluency in Yiddish, and I'd really like to add all those verbs (I've been waiting on a lot of other vocab just because it's a pain to add as a bunch from my wordlists and notes while leaving certain vocabulary items for later). —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:00, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Please don't let this hold you up. You can add words with a (and perhaps a comment about the conjugation if necessary). Then when this is done I will replace them all with the actual tables. --WikiTiki89 14:45, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

צ-stem verbs
Just like z-stem verbs, I suppose these really should be adding -st instead of -t for the 2nd pers singular. For example, with, BGC reveals that as being vastly more common, in both older and more recent writings, including YIVO material. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 07:42, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅ --WikiTiki89 14:36, 2 June 2016 (UTC)

Pluperfect of zeyn-verbs

 * the pluperfect of zeyn-verbs like is being generated as "ikh bin gehat gegangen". Shouldn't it be "ikh bin geven gegangen"? —Mahāgaja · talk 15:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's zayn, not zeyn. But yes, it should be changed to match the standard language, although the form as shown is also found in speech. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:58, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * , the most common form is indeed "bin geven gegangen", but there are other dialectal forms as "bin gehat gegangen" and even rarely "hob gehat gegangen", and some others. I'm pretty sure the standard accepts both "bin gehat" and "bin geven" but not "hot gehat". --Shad Veyosiv (talk) 01:31, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * So can one of you edit the module to generate "bin geven gegangen" instead of or in addition to "bin gehat gegangen"? —Mahāgaja · talk 05:26, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't know my way around this module. Maybe wants to take this on, or maybe we can find someone else to handle it. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * This module is not too large; I can fix it, I just need to know how (a) geven is written in Yiddish, (b) what we want to do: should it display both bin gehat and bin geven for zayn-verbs, or only bin geven? Benwing2 (talk) 06:53, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you. It's written <געווען>. I wouldn't bother giving any other options. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:55, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Should be done. Benwing2 (talk) 07:04, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Manual transliteration
It's pretty ridiculous that the manual transliteration shiker has to be added for every single form at אָנשיכּורן. —Mahāgaja · talk 09:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

title: Module talk:yi-verb


text:
Dwarfer

Noun

 * 1) A fan of the British comedy series .

title: Dwarfer


text:
समाज

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) society, community
 * 2) an

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) society, community

Noun

 * 1) society, community

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) society, assembly, conclave

title: समाज


text: Dwarfers

title: Dwarfers


text:
plivescu

Etymology
From ; compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to weed

title: plivescu


text:
хөлөх

Verb

 * 1) to wander about, gallivant

title: хөлөх


text:
Talk:дезоксирибонуклеиновая кислота

Is there any secondary stress in this (very long) word? Benwing2 (talk) 23:38, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think it's on "-ри-". --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:42, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:дезоксирибонуклеиновая кислота


text:
หมาย

Etymology
From. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to expect; to anticipate.
 * 2) to desire; to want.
 * 3) to mean; to intend.
 * 4) to mean; to denote.
 * 5) to mark; to inscribe.
 * 6) to indicate; to specify.
 * 7)  to direct a writ or warrant (to).

Noun

 * 1)  mark; sign; symbol.
 * 2)  writ: formal document issued in the sovereign's name.
 * 3)  writ; warrant.

title: หมาย


text:
хэлэх

Etymology
From *kele-, a haplological variant of, equivalent to.

Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1) to say, speak, tell

title: хэлэх


text:
push polling

Noun

 * 1) The practice of using push polls as a campaign or marketing technique.

title: push polling


text:
Lutra lutra

Hypernyms

 * - order; - family;  - subfamily;  - genus

title: Lutra lutra


text:
ἀρφύς

Etymology
. Apparently synonymous with, according to.

The reading of the Hesychian gloss is not entirely clear: Μακεδόνες may also refer to a play of that name by Strattis.

Noun

 * 1)  (leather) strap

Usage notes

 * Only attested as a hapax in Hesychius:

title: ἀρφύς


text:
sãrinji

Etymology
From. Compare archaic and regional Romanian, with the same meaning.

Noun

 * 1) place where a salt lick is located for sheep

title: sãrinji


text:
гаргах

Verb

 * 1) to release
 * 2) to emit, take out, move away, reveal
 * 3) to express, create
 * 4) to issue, publish

title: гаргах


text:
үнэмлэх

Noun

 * 1) certificate; licence, license

Verb

 * 1) to certify,

title: үнэмлэх


text:
sãrãtor

Noun

 * 1) salt cellar

title: sãrãtor


text: push-poll

title: push-poll


text: push-polls

title: push-polls


text:
βαβρήν

Etymology
. Apparently equivalent to, according to.

According to Mircheva and Mihaylova (2020), from a zero-grade of – probably equivalent to. Compare.

Noun

 * 1)  oil cake

Usage notes

 * Only attested as a hapax in Hesychius:

title: βαβρήν


text: push-polled

title: push-polled


text:
chiquiuhchiuhqueh

Noun

 * 1) ; they are basketmakers.

title: chiquiuhchiuhqueh


text:
solniță

Etymology
or.

Noun

 * 1) salt cellar

title: solniță


text:
Module:hi

local export = {}

local lang = require("Module:languages").getByCode("hi") local m_translit = require("Module:hi-translit") local rsplit = mw.text.split local gsub = mw.ustring.gsub local sub = mw.ustring.sub

--From Module:th function export.new(frame) local title = mw.title.getCurrentTitle.text local args = frame:getParent.args local pos = args[1] or "" local def = args[2] or "" local pos2 = args[3] or (args[4] and "" or false) local def2 = args[4] or "" local pos3 = args[5] or (args[6] and "" or false) local def3 = args[6] or "" local etym = args["e"] or false local head = args["head"] or false local pron = args["pron"] or false local g = args["g"] or false local g2 = args["g2"] or false local g3 = args["g3"] or false local decl = args["decl"] or false local conj = args["conj"] or false -- conjugation stuff local t = args["t"] or false local c = args["c"] or args["cat"] or false local ref = args["ref"] or false local pp = args["pp"] or false --perfect participle

local result = "" local function genTitle(text) local pos_title = { [""] = "Noun", ["n"] = "Noun", ["pn"] = "Proper noun", ["propn"] = "Proper noun", ["pron"] = "Pronoun", ["v"] = "Verb", ["a"] = "Adjective", ["adj"] = "Adjective", ["det"] = "Determiner", ["adv"] = "Adverb", ["prep"] = "Preposition", ["postp"] = "Postposition", ["post"] = "Postposition", ["con"] = "Conjunction", ["part"] = "Particle", ["suf"] = "Suffix", ["pref"] = "Prefix", ["prov"] = "Proverb", ["id"] = "Idiom", ["ph"] = "Phrase", ["intj"] = "Interjection", ["interj"] = "Interjection", ["num"] = "Numeral", ["abb"] = "Abbreviation", ["conj"] = "Conjunction", ["adj-form"] = "Adjective", ["verb-form"] = "Verb", ["noun-form"] = "Noun", ["pp"] = "Perfect participle", };		return pos_title[text] or mw.ustring.upper(sub(text, 1, 1)) .. sub(text, 2, -1) end local function genHead(text) local pos_head = { [""] = "noun", ["n"] = "noun", ["pn"] = "proper noun", ["propn"] = "proper noun", ["v"] = "verb", ["a"] = "adj", ["adv"] = "adv", ["postp"] = "post", ["prep"] = "prep", ["conj"] = "con", ["pron"] = "pron", ["intj"] = "interj", ["pp"] = "perfect participle", };		return pos_head[text] or text end local function other(class, title, args) local code = "" if args[class] then code = code .. "\n\n===" .. title .. "===\n* " if args[class .. "2"] then code = code .. "\n* " if args[class .. "3"] then code = code .. "\n* " if args[class .. "4"] then code = code .. "\n* " end end end end return code end -- header result = result .. "==Hindi==" -- Wikipedia if args["wp"] then result = result .. "\n" end -- Alternative forms result = result .. other("alt", "Alternative forms", args) -- Etymology if etym then etym = mw.ustring.gsub(etym, "^%<", "From") end if etym then result = result .. "\n\n===Etymology===\n" .. etym end -- Pronunciation if pron then result = result .. "\n\n===Pronunciation===\n* " else result = result .. "\n\n===Pronunciation===\n* " end result = result .. "\n\n===" .. genTitle(pos) .. "===\n\n\n# " .. def -- Morphology if decl and decl ~= "" then if pos == "a" or pos == "adj" or pos == "det" then result = result .. "\n\n====Declension====\n" else result = result .. "\n\n====Declension====\n" end end if pos == "v" then result = result .. "\n\n====Conjugation====\n" end -- Other result = result .. other("syn", "=Synonyms=", args) result = result .. other("ant", "=Antonyms=", args) result = result .. other("der", "=Derived terms=", args) result = result .. other("also", "=See also=", args) -- Actual Entry if pos2 then result = result .. "\n\n===" .. genTitle(pos2) .. "===\n\n\n# " .. def2 end if pos3 then result = result .. "\n\n===" .. genTitle(pos3) .. "===\n\n\n# " .. def3 end -- categories and references if ref and ref ~= "" then result = result .. "\n\n===References===\n* " elseif ref == "" then result = result .. "\n\n===References===\n* " end if c then result = result .. "\n\n" end return result end

function export.hi_format(text) text = (' %s '):format(text) return text end

function export.wordify(text) local words, translits = {}, {} for word in mw.text.gsplit(text, ",") do		table.insert(words, export.hi_format(word)) word = gsub(word, "%]%] %[%[", " ") table.insert(translits, m_translit.tr(word, "hi", "Deva")) end text = table.concat(words, ", ") .. " " .. table.concat(translits, ", ") .. " "	return text end

return export

title: Module:hi


text:
Module:hi/documentation

General purpose Hindi module.

title: Module:hi/documentation


text: push-polling

title: push-polling


text: push polled

title: push polled


text: roligste

title: roligste


text: Template:hi-x

title: Template:hi-x


text:
тоглох

Verb

 * 1) to play, act, joke

title: тоглох


text:
इक्का

Etymology
, from, but influenced by , for which compare 🇨🇬. . Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  ace

Adjective

 * 1) sole, only, solitary
 * 2) one, single

title: इक्का


text: Category:hi:Card games

title: Category:hi:Card games


text: Template:table:playing cards/hi

title: Template:table:playing cards/hi


text:
хөзөр

Etymology
Deriving from, or from the same source as.

Noun

 * 1) playing card

title: хөзөр


text: MediaWiki:Abusefilter-unbalanced tags

title: MediaWiki:Abusefilter-unbalanced tags


text:
रमी

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  rummy

title: रमी


text:
Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot

Would you consider creating one?

title: Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot


text:
10/40 Window

Proper noun

 * 1) The geographic region between 10 degrees north and 40 degrees north latitude, especially when considered as a target for Christian missionary work.

title: 10/40 Window


text:
Citrullus lanatus

Hypernyms

 * - order; - family;   - tribe;  - genus

Hyponyms

 * For subspecies see

title: Citrullus lanatus


text:
Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot/reply

What do you mean? I have a bot account User:TheDaveBot and I have some software which I use for semi-automated and automated editing. Is there some specific task you think I should do or is it just for flood prevention?


text:
हुक्म

Etymology
. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) order, instruction
 * 2)  spade
 * 1)  spade
 * 1)  spade
 * 1)  spade

title: हुक्म


text:
สามล้อ

Etymology
From 🇰🇲.

Noun

 * 1)  (classifier: คัน for the vehicle, คน for the driver) tricycle; pedicab; driver thereof.

Usage notes

 * Pedicabs are formally called, which literally means "three-wheeled pedal vehicle(s)".
 * Auto rickshaws are generally called and are formally called, literally meaning "three-wheeled motor vehicle(s)".

title: สามล้อ


text:
कोहेनूर

Etymology
, from 🇰🇲.

Proper noun

 * 1) the Koh-i-Noor diamond

title: कोहेनूर


text:
รถสามล้อ

Noun

 * 1) tricycle, trishaw, pedicab, tuk-tuk.

title: รถสามล้อ


text:
Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot/reply (2)

Just flood prevention. Maybe such task would be done by the bot next time. I can also flood-flag your account.


text:
Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot/reply (3)

I do use a flood flag for some things, I thought that making changes to so many templates was best to do in a way that everyone could see the changes, since templates have such a big impact on so many pages. Sorry about the flooding, but it is all done now.


text:
Thread:User talk:TheDaveRoss/A bot/reply (4)

It's alright.


text:
aequanimis

Etymology 1
Derived from.

title: aequanimis


text: aequanime

title: aequanime


text: 地动

title: 地动


text:
地動

Verb

 * 1)  to move; to quake

Noun

 * 1)  earthquake

title: 地動


text:
भूकम्प

Noun

 * 1) earthquake

Etymology
From 🇰🇲.

Noun

 * 1) an earthquake

title: भूकम्प


text:
भुईँचालो

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) earthquake

title: भुईँचालो


text:
भुइँ

Noun

 * 1) ground
 * 2) floor

title: भुइँ


text: aequanimi

title: aequanimi


text: aequanimem

title: aequanimem


text: aequanimes

title: aequanimes


text: aequanimia

title: aequanimia


text: aequanimium

title: aequanimium


text: aequanimibus

title: aequanimibus


text:
unforgiver

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) One who does not forgive.

title: unforgiver


text: unforgivers

title: unforgivers


text:
प्रविधि

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) technique specific method by which something is done

Noun

 * 1) technology
 * 2) skill

title: प्रविधि


text:
प्रबिधि

Noun

 * 1) Alternative form of.

title: प्रबिधि


text:
Talk:possessionism

Any ideas as to what "copism" means in the 2009 citation? Equinox ◑ 01:04, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:possessionism


text:
पहिलो

Adjective

 * 1) first

title: पहिलो


text:
रुप

Noun

 * 1) Alternative form of.

title: रुप


text:
e-therapy

Etymology
en

Noun

 * 1) Therapy delivered by means of electronic technology, especially computer networks.

title: e-therapy


text:
परिबार

Noun

 * 1) family; relatives
 * 2) Alternative spelling of.

title: परिबार


text:
मार्नु

Verb

 * 1) to kill
 * 2) to murder

title: मार्नु


text:
उँचाइ

Noun

 * 1) Alternative form of.

title: उँचाइ


text:
उचाइ

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) height
 * 2) elevation

title: उचाइ


text: Template:eo-l

title: Template:eo-l


text:
चढ्नु

Verb

 * 1) to climb
 * 2) to rise
 * 3) to ride (vehicle, horse)
 * 4) to ascend (throne)
 * 5) to become spoiled, arrogant

title: चढ्नु


text:
उमेर

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) age
 * 2) youth
 * 1) youth

title: उमेर


text: Rumpolean

title: Rumpolean


text:
Rumpolian

Adjective

 * 1) Of or relating to Horace Rumpole, a fictional eccentric barrister who defends any and all clients.

title: Rumpolian


text: Citations:merkel

title: Citations:merkel


text:
derailable

Adjective

 * 1) Capable of being derailed.

title: derailable


text: Citations:grasshopperhood

title: Citations:grasshopperhood


text:
ज़लज़ला

Etymology
, from. as.

Noun

 * 1)  earthquake, seism

title: ज़लज़ला


text: lainausmerkeissä

title: lainausmerkeissä


text:
زلزلہ

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) earthquake, seism

Etymology
, from. as.

Noun

 * 1) earthquake, seism

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) earthquake

title: زلزلہ


text:
User:Noice-cream

Hey there— Nice ice cream but in an accent d'Oz.

title: User:Noice-cream


text:
unfraudulent

Adjective

 * 1) Not fraudulent.

title: unfraudulent


text:
Talk:bērns

The English and Scottish bairn (barn, bern) is related to this as well.

title: Talk:bērns


text:
clubling

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  One who frequents or belongs to a club; club attender or member

title: clubling


text: clublings

title: clublings


text: Category:Proto-Slavic terms derived from the Proto-Indo-European root *srew-


text: Category:Esperanto adjectives with red links in their headword lines


text:
bürümek

Etymology
From. Since it is not attested during the Old Turkic period, Nişanyan thinks it may be a back-formation from 🇨🇬 where is a reflexive suffix in both Turkish and Old Turkic, see. However compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬. From,. Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  to cover, fill (a place); to spread over, take over
 * 2)  to wrap, enfold
 * 1)  to wrap, enfold
 * 1)  to wrap, enfold

title: bürümek


text:
buluug

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) blue

title: buluug


text:
Wiktionary:Votes/2016-02/Multiple pronunciation sections

Multiple pronunciation sections
Voting on:

 * Proposal 1: In the case of multiple pronunciations:
 * Option A: We should have multiple pronunciation sections.
 * Option B: We should put multiple pronunciations in one pronunciation section (but special exceptions may be made for specific languages).
 * Note: Proposals 2, 3 and 4 below only come into effect if we use multiple pronunciation sections.
 * Proposal 2:
 * Option A: If there are multiple pronunciation sections, they should be numbered.
 * Option B: If there are multiple pronunciation sections, they should be repeated unnumbered.
 * Proposal 3:
 * Option A: If there are multiple pronunciation sections, the content to which the pronunciation applies should be nested under the pronunciation section.
 * Option B: If there are multiple pronunciation sections, the content to which the pronunciation applies should follow the pronunciation section.
 * Proposal 4:
 * If there are multiple pronunciation sections, etymology sections should not be nested under pronunciation sections.

Rationale:
 * Deciding if there should be some standardization of the formatting of multiple pronunciation sections.

Schedule:
 * Vote starts: 00:00, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Vote created: --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/January
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-02/Multiple pronunciation sections

Support Option A

 * 1)  It's been a while since I read the discussion, but I'm assuming that the multiple sections only are created when the pronunciations differentiate definitions, because everything else would be nonsense. Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 19:09, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Support Option B

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  --WikiTiki89 20:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  -- we have already discussed the reasons for this. Benwing2 (talk) 22:51, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 4)  --Vahag (talk) 21:40, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 5) . Option A is poorly written and could be taken to imply we need to duplicate all the content of e.g. quahog about a dozen times (one section for each pronunciation), or at least that we should split up upbeat, neither of which I'm enthused about. - -sche (discuss) 05:56, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 6)  -Xbony2 (talk) 19:10, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  What about language-specific decision-making as the rule not the exception? DCDuring TALK  13:51, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  No good reason for this. Even if there were, this is not the way to solve such a problem. Tharthan (talk) 17:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  — Sometimes proposal A would define the right course of action, and at some other times proposal B would define the right course of action. I don't think there is a need to legislate on this, but if a regulation is still sought, it should be a more nuanced one than either of those proposed. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 23:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * : There is no rationale; "Deciding if there should be some standardization of the formatting of multiple pronunciation sections" is not a rationale for any of the discussed options. Option B--single pronunciation section--is what we mostly do and what WT:ELE specifies but since WT ELE also contains the flexibility clause, WT:ELE is good as is, and no policy change seems to be required. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:06, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  per I.S.M.E.T.A. and Dan Polansky. --Droigheann (talk) 04:34, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Support Option A

 * 1)  Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 19:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * , but only if they share a nest. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 23:58, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 1)  Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:08, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Support Option B

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  -Xbony2 (talk) 19:12, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * What about language-specific decision-making instead? DCDuring TALK 13:51, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No good reason for this. Even if there were, this is not the way to solve such a problem. Tharthan (talk) 17:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've indented the "votes" above, which were copied and pasted from proposal 1, because they don't make sense in this section — if proposal 1 passes and we have multiple pronunciation sections, we're either going to number them or not... - -sche (discuss) 06:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Support Option A

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 19:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  - -sche (discuss) 20:10, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 4)  — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:00, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 5)  -Xbony2 (talk) 19:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 6)  Andrew Sheedy (talk) 05:09, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Support Option B

 * 1)  If I understand this correctly, Option A possibly means Etymology 1 at L2 > Pronunciation 1 at L3 > POS at L4. --Droigheann (talk) 04:44, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * What about language-specific decision-making instead? DCDuring TALK 13:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No good reason for this. Even if there were, this is not the way to solve such a problem. Tharthan (talk) 17:35, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've indented the "votes" above, which were copied and pasted from proposal 1, because they don't make sense in this section — if proposal 1 passes and we have multiple pronunciation sections, we're either going to nest them or not. (Or if one of you actually opposes both nesting and listing the content after the pronunciation and wants to specify that the pronunciations should be after the content they apply to [and thus before other content which they don't apply to], perhaps like [//en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Sandbox&oldid=37503203 this], then re-instate your vote) - -sche (discuss) 06:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Support

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 04:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1)  What about language-specific decision-making instead? DCDuring TALK  13:53, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  No good reason for this. Even if there were, this is not the way to solve such a problem. Tharthan (talk) 17:36, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  I maintain that the order of Pronunciation/Etymology should be decided case by case or possibly that etymology should follow pronunciation per default.Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 4)  -Xbony2 (talk) 19:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * 5)  per Korn. --Droigheann (talk) 04:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1)  — I'm inclined to support this fourth proposal, but I'd like to know if there are any arguments that have been made in favour of nesting etymology sections under pronunciation sections, because none are currently occurring to me. Are there any? — I.S.M.E.T.A. 00:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I brought forth that pronunciation is a spoken æquivalent to spelling and thus making it an entry-defining optional top level header would be an idea worth discussing, since it is what truly differentiates entries, much more than etymology. (Always with the restriction to pronunciations which do make a semantic difference and are not merely consequenceless variants.) Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 20:44, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Decision
The vote has no consensus; Option B, which had the most support in Proposal 1, has no consensus 6-5 (55%), and Option A failed 1-5 (17%). As a result, all the dependent proposals are null. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 03:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The other proposals are still relevant. The failure of Proposal 1 means that the status quo is still in place and, as far as I know, multiple pronunciation sections are not explicitly forbidden. The remaining three proposals say "If there are multiple pronunciation sections", and not "If Proposal 1, Option A passes", so they still apply to whenever there are multiple pronunciation sections and should be closed. --WikiTiki89 15:42, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The vote's structure was very unclear, and I don't think I could close them in good conscience when it seems that much of the votership thought, like me, that it was implied to be dependent on multiple pronunciation sections being legislated, not being used in general. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 16:59, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to determine what the votership thought, except by asking them. The default should be to go with what the vote literally says. --WikiTiki89 18:09, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I too thought was implied. -Xbony2 (talk) 18:33, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The vote doesn't literally say "If there are multiple pronunciation sections", it literally says "if we use multiple pronunciation sections". Who is "we" now Proposal 1 has failed? --Droigheann (talk) 23:58, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree with Meta. Even if we were to close the other proposals, nothing would change: Proposal 2 shows no consensus (each of the two mutually-exclusive options got about even levels of support), proposal 3's option A (if one argues that it passed) is existing practice, and proposal 4 is also existing practice (that there is no ban on not nesting etymologies under pronunciations). - -sche (discuss) 02:08, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 02:43, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't understand how Proposal 3 Option A is existing practice. Could you link me to an example entry? I tried bow, row and record and their contents are not nested under, they follow the respective pronunciations (Option B), POS's are the same level headers as Pronunciations. --Droigheann (talk) 02:50, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * bow has multiple Etymology sections, with content (including pronunciation information) nested under it. That's the usual format. In cases where there are multiple pronunciation sections (sections distinguishing things by pronunciation), as in auraria and にじ, the content is nested under the pronunciation. (If anyone pursues a very legalistic line of argument that not only should proposals 2-4 be judged independent of the proposal whose passage they depended upon, but that furthermore proposal 3 should cover bow because it technically has "multiple" pronunciation sections, then I point out that frau also has multiple pronunciation sections: one in the English section, one in the Catalan section, and one in the German section; nothing in the vote says the multiple sections have to be in the same language section. I await your edit putting the POS headers in frau at L4...) - -sche (discuss) 03:09, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't await with bated breath, for ye await in vain. In fact both the "at bow actually nested under Etymology" and the "maybe I've never seen this as it happens in languages I don't look at" ideas occurred to me, true to form, the moment I switched off my laptop. So thanks for the links confirming the latter. I don't like the way the L3 POS looks under the L2 pronunciation at にじ, but then I never liked the way L3 POS look under L2 Etymology anywhere, so I guess I can live with it, especially as "my" languages will aparently be virtually unaffected. --Droigheann (talk) 07:06, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, I overlooked the note "Note: Proposals 2, 3 and 4 below only come into effect if we use multiple pronunciation sections." (despite the fact that I apparently wrote it...). Taking that into account, I would have to agree that it is unclear what was meant and proposals 2, 3, and 4 should be ignored. --WikiTiki89 14:54, 17 March 2016 (UTC)


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Talk:Donetsk People's Republic

RFV discussion: July–September 2015
Given that the Donetsk People’s Republic was only proclaimed in April 2014, I hereby request verification of the various translations of the name that have been given entries. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Данецкая Народная Рэспубліка
Belarusian. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Doněcká lidová republika
Czech. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Volksrepubliek Donetsk
Dutch. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Λαϊκή Δημοκρατία του Ντονέτσκ
Greek. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Repubblica Popolare di Doneck
Italian. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Doniecka Republika Ludowa
Polish. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Донецька народна республіка
Ukrainian. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

RFV failed. Entry deleted. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:48, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

RFV discussion: July 2015–April 2016
Given that the Donetsk People’s Republic was only proclaimed in April 2014, I hereby request verification of the various translations of the name that have been given entries. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

République populaire de Donetsk
French. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't have time to write these up, but here you go. To be honest, I don't see any reason to doubt these. They are all translations of the original Russian/Ukrainian name in just the same way that the English is, and "People's Republic" is a standard phrase.
 * Ukraine: Donetsk proclame sa souveraineté, Kiev dénonce une agression russe
 * Élections rebelles pour la «République populaire de Donetsk»
 * « C’est un avion civil » : une vidéo montre les rebelles prorusses découvrant le crash du MH17
 * Smurrayinchester (talk) 06:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Thank you. The La Presse and Le Monde citations both look good to me, so I've added them to Citations:République populaire de Donetsk; however, the La Dépêche article has « En fin de matinée, barricadés dans les locaux de l’administration, les séparatistes ont proclamé sous les vivats une “république populaire de Donetsk”, comme le montre une. » (“…the separatists proclaimed to cheers a ‘people’s republic of Donetsk’…”, emboldenment my emphasis), which is a common, rather than a proper, noun. We need one more citation, dating from the 17th of July 2014 or before.
 * I don't doubt that these languages each have at least one name for the Donetsk People’s Republic; however, in the same way that there is no grammatical reason why the English name could not be “the People’s Republic of Donetsk”, there may be no reason to assume that the prevailing names in these languages are as given. For example, it would be quite plausible for the French name to be « la République populaire donetskaise » or even « la République du peuple de Donetsk » or « la République des Donetskois ». That is why it is necessary to look at actual usage and to gather quotations. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 16:32, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

This term still needs another qualifying citation, either dating from the 17th of July 2014 or before or dating from six days hence (the 23rd of September 2015) or later. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 12:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

 * Cited. - -sche (discuss) 18:52, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

Volksrepublik Donezk
German. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 22:50, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

 * I don't have time to write them up, but here are three spanning a year:

 * "Volksrepublik Donezk" wünscht Russland-Anschluss
 * Ein Jahr Volksrepublik Donezk: Die Separatisten und ihre rechten Freunde
 * Separatisten kündigen Wahlen für Oktober an
 * Smurrayinchester (talk) 06:30, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 * That shouldn't count: web sides usually aren't durably archived (cf. WT:CFI). Regarding books that are durably archived there might be the problem that books do not appear as fast as news paper articles, i.e. it might take some time till the word is attestable with book quotes. -eXplodit (talk) 12:02, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 * We generally accept the websites of newspapers, under the assumption that what appears there most likely also appeared in print. Smurrayinchester (talk) 12:33, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 * tagesschau.de shouldn't appear in print, and I doubt that n-tv.de does. Well, both should also appear in TV, but maybe another wording is used there, and TV news shouldn't be durably archived too (at least not publicly durably archived). Anyways, google books has ~11 results for "Volksrepublik Donezk" from 2014 and 2015, though sometimes maybe selfpublished e-books.
 * Do quotes with quotations marks count such as the following one?
 * 2014, Ukraine: Der Weg in den Krieg, Die Welt ISBN 978-3-944166-54-4 (e-book version without page numbers):
 * Inzwischen sind es die militanten Separatisten, die die "Volksrepublik Donezk" komplett kontrollieren.
 * BTW: Maybe it is also "Donezker Republik" in German?
 * -eXplodit (talk) 14:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * "Donezker Republik" and "Donezker Volksrepublik" are both quite rare. At Google News, the two terms are used almost only by the German-language version of the pro-Putin Sputnik, and only vanishingly rarely by anyone else. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:54, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

This term currently has four citations, dating from the 16th of June 2014 – the 22nd of May 2015. It still needs one more qualifying citation, either dating from the 22nd of May 2014 or before or dating from the 16th of June 2015 or later. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 13:38, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

 * 2016 January 26, K von Beyme, Der Ukraine-Konflikt, Die Russland-Kontroverse, 2016 (DOI 10.1007/978-3-658-12031-3_7):
 * Ein Drittel der Bevölkerung wäre nach Umfragen lieber Teil der prorussischen »Volksrepublik Donezk«.
 * Cited. - -sche (discuss) 16:37, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you. RFV passed. — I.S.M.E.T.A. 15:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

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Talk:Данецкая Народная Рэспубліка

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Talk:Doněcká lidová republika

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Talk:Λαϊκή Δημοκρατία του Ντονέτσκ

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Talk:Repubblica Popolare di Doneck

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Talk:Doniecka Republika Ludowa

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Talk:Донецька народна республіка

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Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-02/Multiple pronunciation sections

Pinging participants of the discussion
I'm pinging the participants of Beer parlour/2016/January.

Let me know if the vote looks good, what would you change, what options you would add, etc.

--Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

 * For proposal 4, I think it should be something like this: "Etymology sections cannot be nested under pronunciation sections", with no alternate proposal. What you put is kind of meaningless. --WikiTiki89 02:42, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

 * ✅ --Daniel Carrero (talk) 02:44, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't think you really understood what I meant, but I fixed it. --WikiTiki89 02:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I would like to have no separate Pronunciation 1, Pronunciation 2, etc. but make an exception for Japanese kana entries. Benwing2 (talk) 02:53, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you give an example of such a Japanese kana entry? --WikiTiki89 02:55, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The example of まく is one that was given in Beer parlour/2016/January. I argued that these should be organized by etymology but the Japanese editors argued that kana entries are special cases that are present specifically to indicate pronunciation. I'm willing to make an exception for these but I don't think we should have "Pronunciation N" sections (or plain "Pronunciation" sections) in general. Benwing2 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That makes sense. Each sense is a different etymology it seems. I think we can just add that special exceptions may be made for particular languages. Really, I would say, though, that the pronunciation sections in those kana entries are a different kind of pronunciation section than the one discussed in this vote. But making such a distinction would be too confusing. --WikiTiki89 03:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I added the proposal of making an exception for Japanese. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Can we not do that? I think we should have a generalized exception like the one I just mentioned. --WikiTiki89 03:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I just implemented my suggestion. Any objections? --WikiTiki89 03:30, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * It looks good to me. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 14:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * So proposal 4 is a vote on whether Pronunciation sections or etymology sections should be higher up in the hierarchy? Korn [kʰʊ̃ːæ̯̃n] (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Essentially, but not exactly. Since a single pronunciation section is still allowed at the top of a page, followed by multiple etymology sections. --WikiTiki89 16:28, 8 February 2016 (UTC)


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Herpestes ichneumon

Hypernyms

 * - order; - suborder;  - family;  - subfamily

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Talk:気にするな

気にするな is a verb form or phrase?(period: 2 weeks approx.)
This should be categorized as "phrase". a: there is no するな in conjugation.(see する) b: "-な" is one of ending-sentence particles(in ja, 終助詞), not an ending of conjugation. c: "don't worry"(don't is an additional element). and "-な" is also an additional element. "don't worry" is registered as "Phrase" And Wiktionary is supposed to have conformity. --220.52.27.1 02:57, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Either all plain negative forms are just that -- verb forms -- or they are non-idiomatic sum-of-parts entries and thus not worth of inclusion.
 * Regarding "conformity", a phrase in one language may be a single term in another language. The fact that  is currently listed as a phrase in English has exactly zero bearing on the correct part of speech for the translation of this saying into other languages.
 * In addition, our Japanese conjugation table is incomplete, so the lack of plain negative imperative there is no valid argument against its existence as a verb form. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

 * (somewhat off-topic, but searching for "するな" in Google I was rather surprised to see that this entry is the first result :p —suzukaze (t・c) 06:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC))
 * (more on-topic) It seems like 終助詞 refers to words like だ and よ. Does （動詞）～な really count? I'd consider it part of the verb, as it only means "don't" after the plain form of a verb. —suzukaze (t・c) 06:51, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * suzukaze: It is often listed as a 終助詞 in monolingual dictionaries: see about a quarter of the way down the page here for the Daijisen entry.
 * That said, I don't think that invalidates the argument that [PLAIN FORM] + is a verb form.  At least a few Japanese authors on Google Books describe this as a conjugation form, and apply the label .  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 07:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

気にするな
Sum-of-parts. This is just the regular negative imperative of.

If we are not to delete this, the entry must at least be stubbified. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 17:58, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep as a useful phrasebook entry per don't worry. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 19:13, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
 * The Japanese phrase isn't as idiomatic. Moreover, the Japanese phrase's structure makes it much more limited in its social acceptability: the plain verb form  +  is a very informal form, and could be interpreted as extremely bossy and arrogant in a way that  wouldn't be.  I don't think the Japanese term is appropriate for a phrasebook.  Shinji, what say you?  Are imperatives (positive or negative) appropriate for a phrasebook? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 09:32, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I know the phrasebook project is based on usefulness, and a sum of parts can be accepted. In this case, as you clearly say, a bare imperative is not polite and you can use it only to close friends, children, lower people in hierarchy, or in cheering (行け!, がんばれ!, etc.). Having an entry for 気にするな is probably misleading. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 23:58, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * As mentioned above, besides not being the best analogue of "don't worry", this expression is indeed unsafe and cannot be recommended for people unfamiliar with the language or customs and who have distant relationships to their audience, or to put it another way, the type of people who use phrasebooks. --Haplogy (話) 05:19, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

 * I struck my vote due to the arguments of the Japanese editors. Perhaps a more appropriate equivalent could be created as a phrasebook entry, though? —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:22, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
 * A polite, phrasebook worthy equivalent would be 気にしないでください.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:28, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

I've stubbified the entry and indicated that this is a verb form, specifically the plain negative imperative. We don't seem to have a template for this verb form (at least, there's nothing that quite fits over in Category:Form-of templates). If anyone is aware of a better template (or creates one), by all means please replace the call to. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 16:46, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

 * Strongly Keep though "気にするな" should be categorized in Phrase, not in Verb. All you guys in Wiktionary are so wise that you'd already know "気にするな is a phrase translated from English phrase "don't worry". Wiktionary is supposed to have an entry of those phrases. --Carl Daniels (talk) 11:39, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If is categorized as a verb, which it should be as it's a phrasal verb, then  is a verb form, as the plain negative imperative form of.
 * Also, did you read the thread above?  is extremely more restricted in appropriate usage than the English .  The Japanese could come across as fucking don't worry about it, or depending on context, even as .  This is enough of a divergence in meaning and usage that listing  as a phrasebook entry for  could actually be dangerous to any poor schmuck attempting to use such a phrasebook in Japan.
 * The entry is being kept, as a verb form of . ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:06, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I still believe "気にするな" should be categorized as a phrase. We can apply a simple analytic approach: <"気にするな"(ki ni suru na)> is <"気にする"(terminate form of verb)> + <"-な"(sentence ending particle)>. "-な"(- na) is additional and grammatically belongs to a group of sentence-ending particles(終助詞), like -よ, -ね, -か, -ぞ, -ぜ, ... . So, "気にするな"(ki ni suru na) is not a verb form, while "気にしろ"(ki ni shiro) is a verb form. (Plese refer Japanese conjugation table of "する" - a1:し(ない), a2:せ(ず), b1:し(ます), b2:し(て), c:する（. ）, d:する(とき), e:すれ(ば), f:しろ（. or ！）) And, don't worry ("don't" is additional) is also registered as a phrase as I said before. I think we have some room to reconsider. In advance, Thank you.--Carl Daniels (talk) 07:03, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The な here is not a particle but an inflectional suffix. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 11:19, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry sir! it's a particle! 食べるな, 飲むな, 気にするな, ... All of these "-な" is a sentence-ending particle "な"(na)(禁止の終助詞「な」) it is clear as yo can see here (（禁止）「な」（例）二度と飲むな. )I suppose you are Japanese. You can see it.(私は日本語文法を日本語の用語で理解しています/ I understand Japanese grammar with Japanese terminology.) :) if you have an opinion, you can bring the reference. --Carl Daniels (talk) 03:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * There is also a recognition that this analysis of the plain negative imperative (and even of the plain imperative) may be problematic. See ja:w:活用 (“Conjugation#Problems with the Conjugated Forms”) for some discussion of this.
 * There are multiple possible analyses of Japanese verb forms. What we currently call the “passive” in English could well be analyzed instead as a kind of sum-of-parts, as the irrealis or incomplete verb stem + reru or rareru, with the latter element itself decomposable into ra (as a ligature element or sorts when the verb stem does not end in a) + reru (derived from the attributive form of passive / spontaneous base auxiliary verb ru via regular historical processes that applied to all lower bigrade verbs).  But for practical purposes, we treat the passive as a single form.  There is no real reason that one could not analyze the plain negative imperative similarly, and indeed some do, even some Japanese authors, such as at least a few of those appearing here on Google Books, using the term  to refer to this conjugation.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 07:04, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * : As Eirikr said, there are sources on the prohibitive form (禁止形), and it is totally up to you which theory you follow. “私は日本語文法を日本語の用語で理解しています” well, honestly speaking, it doesn’t help. In the traditional Japanese grammar (国文法), all phonologically-dependent non-inflecting morphemes are called joshi (助詞), and it doesn’t distinguish clitics and inflectional suffixes. If you analyze the prohibitive -na, you can clearly see that nothing can be inserted before it, which is a sign of inflectional suffix rather than a clitic.
 * {| class="wikitable"

! Prohibitive な !! Exclamatory な Don’t eat. You eat a lot! You have eaten a lot! You eat a lot! No?
 * 食べるな.
 * 食べるな.
 * よく食べるな.
 * style="text-align: center" | —
 * よく食べたな.
 * よく食べたな.
 * style="text-align: center" | —
 * よく食べるよな.
 * よく食べるよな.
 * }
 * Anyway this is a digression. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 15:05, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * If we are to analyze this as not a verb form, then this is non-idiomatic SOP and not worthy of inclusion. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 07:20, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
 * if you say so, why do we prepare an entry "don't worry" as a phrase? I thought we were able to have "phrase".--Carl Daniels (talk) 03:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm confused by your insistent reference to the English entry. Are we not discussing the Japanese entry?  If so,  is currently regarded as an integral idiomatic term that is treated as a verb.  Hence, its plain negative imperative is regarded as a form of that verb, and we have therefore applied the template  in the  entry.  The phrase-ness or non-phrase-ness of the English entry has exactly zero to do with the correct part of speech for the translation of  into other languages.
 * This also fails to decide the question: if is deemed to be not a verb form, then it is a non-idiomatic sum-of-parts, as  +, and thus it fails CFI and should be removed.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 06:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I have a phrase for you: "My hhovercraft is fool of eelss". As explained above, 気にするな may be a literal translation for the phrase, "don't worry", but socially it's closer to "don't worry, toots" addressed to the boss's wife. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:04, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

No clear consensus to delete. bd2412 T 13:22, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

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text:
vine staff

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  A cane originally made of twisted grapevine trimmings and used by Roman centurions to beat the soldiers under their command; the various mushroom-headed batons later borne by them as a mark of office

Translations

 * Hungarian: szőlőbot, vezérbot
 * Latin:

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Talk:рибонуклеиновая кислота

Should this word also have secondary stress on ри-? Benwing2 (talk) 03:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * No, IMO.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:рибонуклеиновая кислота


text:
ecospheric

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to the ecosphere, especially in the context of its contributions to the economy.

title: ecospheric


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Bauhausian

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) Of or relating to Bauhaus or the style it promulgated.

Noun

 * 1) A member of the Bauhaus artistic movement.

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Brunton compass

Etymology
After geologist David Brunton, founder of

Noun

 * 1) A type of precision compass commonly used by geoscientists.

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text:
𠁝

Han character

 * 1)  to comprise, to consist of, to include

title: 𠁝


text:
Brunton

Etymology
From a metathesized form of +. This surname is also common in Ireland.

Proper noun

 * 1)  A placename:

Statistics

 * According to the 2010 United States Census, Brunton is the 14070th most common surname in the United States, belonging to 2139 individuals. Brunton is most common among White (91.91%) individuals.

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Geum urbanum

Hypernyms

 * - order; - family;  - subfamily;  - tribe;  - genus

title: Geum urbanum


text: застёжек-молний

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Foo

Bla

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마무리

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) finishing, completion, concluding
 * 2) conclusion, ending

title: 마무리


text:
마무르다

Etymology
Compare.

Verb

 * 1) to finish off; to give the final touch
 * 2) to settle; to bring something to a finish; to conclude

title: 마무르다


text:
ăn Tết

Etymology
🇰🇲

Verb

 * 1) to celebrate the (Vietnamese) New Year

title: ăn Tết


text:
ngày Tết

Etymology
🇰🇲

Proper noun

 * 1) Vietnamese New Year; Tết holiday

title: ngày Tết


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text:
bệnh tòng khẩu nhập, hoạ tòng khẩu xuất

Etymology
.

Phrase

 * 1) Illness comes in via the mouth because of food and trouble goes out via the mouth because of words; carefulness required in diet and speech

title: bệnh tòng khẩu nhập, hoạ tòng khẩu xuất


text:
love offering

Noun

 * 1)  Money collected from members of a congregation by passing a plate during the religious service.

title: love offering


text: love offerings

title: love offerings


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돌이키다

Etymology
from +. .

Verb

 * 1) to turn around
 * 2) to regain, to recover, to undo
 * 3) to look back upon, to reflect
 * 4) to reconsider, to change one's mind
 * 1) to reconsider, to change one's mind

title: 돌이키다


text:
chúc tụng

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1) to express good wishes; to congratulate

title: chúc tụng


text:
祝頌

Verb

 * 1) to express good wishes; to congratulate

title: 祝頌


text: 祝颂

title: 祝颂


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text:
tiệc

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) banquet, party, dinner

title: tiệc


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text:
frajda

Etymology
From a cognate of 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  delight, joy

title: frajda


text:
permanent shave

Etymology
From the early 1900s, presumably a pun on permanent wave.

Noun

 * 1)  A throat-slitting.

title: permanent shave


text:
non-denominal

Adjective

 * 1)  Not denominal.
 * 2) * 2015, Richey Novak, Ph.D., A Love Affair: An Essay on Life, Love, and Being Together
 * He found fertile grounds in Palestine, and in time his tent was turned into a substantial permanent building and an independent, non-denominal church called the Temple.
 * He found fertile grounds in Palestine, and in time his tent was turned into a substantial permanent building and an independent, non-denominal church called the Temple.

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Talk:полуведра

Do this word and related forms have secondary stress on полу̀-? Benwing2 (talk) 05:08, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 05:11, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't pay attention to the stress mark when I said "yes". It's "по̀лу-", not "полу̀-"! --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:полуведра


text:
sağmak

Etymology
From, from.

Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  to milk (an animal)

title: sağmak


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text:
Talk:полуимя

This one claims to have secondary stress on по̀лу-, not полу̀-. Is this wrong or an exception? Benwing2 (talk) 05:23, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * по̀лу is correct.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:12, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:полуимя


text:
Talk:получеловек

This one too: по̀лу- not полу̀-. Mistake or exception? Benwing2 (talk) 05:28, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Correct, I think there are quite a few words with по̀лу pronunciations.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:14, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, all the words whose lemma has полу- in it seem to have по̀лу- (полуимя, получеловек, полуось, полуостров). I've assumed that all the words with a lemma in пол- and non-lemma forms in полу- have полу̀-. This is полуведр-, полувек-, полугод-, полукилометр-, полулитр-, полумесяч-, полуметр-, полумиллион-, полуочк-, полусотн-, полутысяч-, получас-. Could you verify this? Thanks! Benwing2 (talk) 07:09, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * All these would have по̀лу, it's полу̀ that is more like an exception, like полу̀ночь.-Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 07:42, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Earlier you said that полуведра and related forms had полу̀-, did you mean по̀лу-? Benwing2 (talk) 09:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Do you remember where that discussion was? In any case, I'll try to give more details later tonight when I get to my desktop.--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 09:51, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * At Talk:полуведра. Benwing2 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:получеловек


text:
Talk:歩子

RFV discussion: August 2015
This is by an IP who's very good at coming up with new ways to get things horribly, horribly wrong, and it seems bogus, but I have no way to check.
 * Japanese Wikipedia and Google searches just yield the female given name 歩子 (most often read "Ayuko"). Denshi jisho just gives the name, with four readings: Ayuko, Ayumiko, Fumine, and Poko (the last of which sounds very unusual). Unless the editor can come and substantiate this somehow, it'll go. Interesting to note that Hoko was just edited today with this same definition, by the same IP and another IP, presumably by the same editor. Aperiarcam (talk) 02:31, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Yep. Same idiot, two different IPs. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:57, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Also, the sense line that points to this in the hiragana entry:

ほこ

 * Idiocy extirpated. At least from these entries.  Including the WP article.
 * I'm somewhat impressed; where does this person even get such whackadoodle nonsense? Are they just making it up, whole cloth?  Are they grossly misunderstanding a reference work somewhere?  It baffles me.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 04:40, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to handle this user with a filter like abuse filter 40? Take a look at it and my comments on it (respond there, to keep the workings of the filter private). - -sche (discuss) 04:56, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
 * My guess is that this started out as an incidental detail in some anime or manga story, and some random word or phrase that happened to be coincidentally associated with it. Our IP apparently misinterpreted that detail as a basic feature of Japanese culture, and the random text as the name for it in Japanese. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:12, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

title: Talk:歩子


text:
Talk:canican

RFV discussion: June 2015–January 2016
Does not seem to exist as an English word. Possibly Spanish. Uppercase may possibly mean Canadian American. SemperBlotto (talk) 10:10, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
 * I came across the word in the Looking Glass Library edition of Twilight Land by Howard Pyle. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 20:09, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

 * Should be speedied, since it has no definition, no etymology, no pronunciation, no nothing. We already have WT:REE for requests. Equinox ◑ 20:26, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

 * I think it's a variation of canakin. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 20:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)

 * It seems Pyle is the only one to have used this spelling. RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 22:23, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:canican


text:
Talk:tenor

RFV discussion: September 2015–January 2016
Rfv-sense: adjective: Of or pertaining to the tenor part or range.

The example sentence he has a tenor voice strikes me as nominal, not adjectival. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * This is an RfD issue, not an RfV one. How do you explain phraseology like "tenor horn", "tenor trombone", "tenor saxophone", "tenor clef" or "tenor drum"?  Tenor as a word works the opposite way from the way you're alleging. Pur ple back pack 89   04:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * I, as a native speaker who has spent a fair amount of time in musical situations, as well as the lemmings, strongly disagree that such a use is nominal. I would say that "tenor voice" and all the examples PBP used are evidence of widespread use of the adjectival sense. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 05:06, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * A few citations of tenor behaving like an adjective:

 * 1962, Frank Howard Richardson, For Parents Only: The Doctor Discusses Discipline
 * Many a star athlete has very little hair anywhere except what he wears on top of his head, and a voice that is  absolutely tenor.
 * 2009, Richard Smith, Can't You Hear Me Calling: The Life of Bill Monroe, Father of Bluegrass, Da Capo Press ISBN 9780786731169
 * Sometimes Charlie would sing notes that were more tenor than original melody, forcing Bill to sing a high baritone-style line.
 * 2012, Lily George, Captain of Her Heart, Harlequin ISBN 9781459221239, page 173
 * The door swung open, and a masculine voice—a little more tenor than Brookes's bass tones—called, “Brookes, come in. Do you have your colleague with you?”
 * 2015, Michael J. Senger Sr., The Connection, Lulu Press, Inc ISBN 9781257217854
 * Kahn was not a big man and he had a voice that was a little more tenor than most preferred.
 * Smurrayinchester (talk) 12:56, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Since nobody has objected to the last four citations, I am placing them in the entry. If this RfV passes, I will likely create adjective senses for soprano, alto, bass and maybe baritone, as if this is verifiable, those likely are as well. Pur ple back pack 89   13:15, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
 * To answer the original question, "[h]ow do you explain phraseology like "tenor horn", "tenor trombone", "tenor saxophone", "tenor clef" or "tenor drum"?" using the noun, 'tenor' (like car door does not justify car). However I don't dispute Smurrayinchester's citations. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:18, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

 * RFV-passed. - -sche (discuss) 02:04, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:tenor


text:
Talk:memrize

RFV discussion: May 2015–January 2016
The original creator of this page challenged it on my talk page. A quick look at isn't particularly promising. What I'm actually seeing is hits for and totally unrelated hits. Renard Migrant (talk) 10:57, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I found a few hits on Google Books (though some of them might be typos):, , , , . Einstein2 (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * The second and third look okay; the fourth and fifth are the same one and looks like a typo, not an eye-dialect. I can't see the first as there's no preview. So that's two. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:45, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * This is what I can see at the first one: "can find to do is memrize the printin' on all the cans and". In addition to this, I found another use: . Einstein2 (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Renard Migrant (talk) 15:04, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

 * I've typed up the linked-to citations. Thanks for them. RFV-passed. - -sche (discuss) 21:06, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:memrize


text:
Talk:ほこ

RFV discussion: August 2015

 * See Talk:歩子.

title: Talk:ほこ


text: écrantant

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title: écranté


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title: écrantée


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title: écrantés


text:
postrimero

Adjective

 * 1)  last; final

title: postrimero


text: écrantées

title: écrantées


text: écrante

title: écrante


text:
écranter

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to screen (especially from electromagnetic fields)

title: écranter


text: écrantes

title: écrantes


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title: écrantons


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title: écrantez


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title: écranterez


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title: écranteront


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title: écranterais


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title: écranterait


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title: postremero


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title: écranteriez


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title: écranteraient


text: écrantasse

title: écrantasse


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title: écrantasses


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title: écrantât


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title: écrantassions


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title: écrantassiez


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title: écrantassent


text:
écrantage

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) screening (protection by means of a screen)

title: écrantage


text:
émaillerie

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) enameling

title: émaillerie


text:
Thesaurus talk:stick

Move
This is a lovely list of 条 but the English word "stick" does not ever include the idea of metal nails or needles; nor does it include the entire trunk of a tree; nor does it include writing implements like markers and quills. Having some items that can or often are metal is no excuse for including items that are never subsumed by the concept of "stick", any more than having "walking stick" means we should include "walker" or "hiking boots".

If the following terms are going to be included, this page needs to be moved elsewhere (possibly bar?):

Fwiw, the writing utensils, architectural beams, and sailing spars should probably be shunted off regardless of where the page ends up, as they're entirely separate concepts. — Llywelyn II   05:49, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Hmm... thinking about it more, a pole might be a kind of stick but various kinds of poles (such as the sailing spars) really wouldn't be. Perhaps a move to Wikisaurus:rod or Wikisaurus:shaft is in order, which would permit the return of items like nails and pens... Right now, Wiktionary thinks that rods need to be round, but the OED doesn't agree. Planks and boards probably still don't count but then they really shouldn't be here, either. — Llywelyn II   06:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * The word "stick" is just a convenient approximate headword; the sense is "any solid thing that is long, thin and rigid". --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * And even if some of the hyponyms were not really hyponyms of "any solid thing that is long, thin and rigid" but were close enough, they should better be moved to "Various" section, the point being to help people find words. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Calling a "trunk" a stick seems downright wrong to me. Same for "nail" and "screw". —suzukaze (t・c) 12:58, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
 * That's why I said "approximate headword". But if it is insisted that the headword has to fit very closely, then we can change the definition and move the questioned items to Various section for maximum accuracy. Or we can move this page to WS:solid, long, thin, ridig thing, or say that solid is implied and move this to WS:long, thin, ridig thing. Or come up with another idea. This was intended to be a broad class of objects based on their overall shape and rigidity (not a rope), and the resulting selection seems to be an interesting one. Again, the Various section makes it possible to combine accuracy with being able to show the broader neighborhood of the word set. --Dan Polansky (talk) 13:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

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text:
femtométrique

Etymology
From or.

Adjective

 * 1) femtometric

title: femtométrique


text:
femtometric

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to, or measured using the femtometre

Translations

 * French:
 * Italian: femtometrico

title: femtometric


text:
femtometrico

Etymology
From. .

Adjective

 * 1) femtometric

title: femtometrico


text:
finalisme

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) finalism

title: finalisme


text:
gyromagnétique

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  gyromagnetic

title: gyromagnétique


text:
gyromagnétisme

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  gyromagnetism

title: gyromagnétisme


text:
Judas Iscariote

Proper noun

 * 1) Judas Iscariot

Proper noun

 * 1) Judas Iscariot

title: Judas Iscariote


text:
giromagnetico

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1)  gyromagnetic

title: giromagnetico


text:
Munĥeno

Etymology
Likely from.

title: Munĥeno


text: Munĥenon

title: Munĥenon


text:
fileto

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * : little son

title: fileto


text: fileton

title: fileton


text: filetoj

title: filetoj


text: filetojn

title: filetojn


text:
filineto

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * : little daughter

title: filineto


text: filineton

title: filineton


text: filinetoj

title: filinetoj


text: filinetojn

title: filinetojn


text: interpénétrant

title: interpénétrant