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Talk:Main Page/Archive 9

Protect pages listed on the Main Page?
After the latest vandalism on the front page link to Tli Cho it might be appropriate to discuss protecting also pages listed there. Or make an option to add them automatically to watchlists of all admins. Safety measure. --Kpjas 07:16, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

 * I think protecting them would be a bad idea. If these are the pages people are coming across first, you don't want to give them the idea they can't edit them as they may think it applies to the whole site. Watching them would be a good though. Angela. 07:22, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Question on database schema moved to village pump.

Front page quotation
I really dislike that pretentious front page quotation. Firstly, it pushes the actual content of the page even further down on smaller displays. Secondly, it doesn't make any sense concerning Wikipedia. Wikipedia contains lots and lots of (often very good) information, but it is not exactly a source of wisdom! I think the quotation is pretty silly in this context... --Morn

 * I agree on all counts. I've never heard of this guy John Naisbitt either. I'm getting rid of it. Mintguy 18:12, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)

I suggest include a link to disccuss this page in the top part of the page, near to protected page and include a new page named Main Page/simulation to propose changes.

 * You might want to take a look at Talk:Main_Page/Layout_design, Main Page/Temp, Main Page/Temp2, Main Page/Temp3, Main Page/Temp4, Main Page/Temp5, Main Page/Temp6 and Main Page/Temp7 first. :) Angela 23:06, 30 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Note: Harley-Davidson and Anniversaries discussion moved to Wikipedia talk:Selected Articles on the Main Page. --Jiang 22:24, 1 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers
Welcome, newcomers is not linked on the main page. To make the main page more welcoming, I propose we replace "Community" with that link, or at least add it in that section. --Jiang 05:05, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * The "you" in the second sentence of the introduction used to be a link there - looked like a fine solution. Don't know why it's gone. Kosebamse 05:14, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

The "you" doesn't seem prominent enough. We need to make this link very visible. --Jiang 05:16, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * See archive 8 of this page. Angela 06:18, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I agree with the decision made on Archive 8 but we need to link it somewhere else. --Jiang 06:22, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Okay, added it in, but should it be made more prominent? --Jiang 20:42, 2 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * It's fine - the help page is already very prominent. --mav

The Magic Door
Where can I go to find information about a Television show viewed in the U.S.A. called the Magic Door. A Miniature man that played an accoustic guitar and lived in a mushroom? Back in the 1970's.

 * If you are refering to the children's show "The Magic Door Television Theatre", as of this moment, there is no article on Wikipedia about it. If you would like to create an article about it, I have found a few possible sources of information: , .  I have not been able to find any information on a show called just The Magic Door based your description though.  I hope this helps.  { MB | マイカル } 15:45, Sep 3, 2003 (UTC)

I agree.

Fitting the screen
I'm using IE 6. How do I adjust by screen to see if everything will fit at 800? Install linux.

--Jiang 04:34, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * The simplest way is to adjust your screen to 800x600 resolution and try it out. :) Right-click on the desktop and go into "display properties", you should be able to adjust the screen resolution from there. --Brion 04:51, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * One way of acheiving this is to view the page through a frame that is set at 800 pixels. It isn't going to be exactly the same as viewing the page at 800 by 600, but it will likely be close enough to be useful.  Copy the following code and paste it into a file, for instance wiki.html.  Then load it in a browser and the left side of the screen should have the main page of Wikipedia in a frame which is 800 pixels wide. -- Popsracer 09:57, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Another way to do this could be bookmarklets. Have a look at this page and add the "Resize Window to 800 x 600" bookmarklet to your bookmarks. Then you just click on that bookmark and the window resize itself to 800x600.

 * http://www.bookmarklets.com/tools/windowing/indexE.phtml

 * -- Ludvig 17:24, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Article count on front page
Seeing the article count at 154006 reminds me of an old issue I have with this count. I think it would be better to always truncate these article counts to the nearest thousand, because

 * the counter is not realtime but only updated every few days. It will thus be never as accurate as it seems, which is quite unscientific.
 * a large number that ends in some zero digits looks much more pleasant in a text.
 * one could then reformulate the Wikipedia introduction in a way that underlines the ever-growing nature of Wikipedia more effectively, so that instead of, for example

 * We started in January 2001 and are currently working on 153472 articles in the English version.

it would read

 * We started in January 2001 and are currently working on more than 153000 articles in the English version.

which I think sounds considerably more exciting. --Morn

 * The article count is only updated every few days? That's new to me. -- Schnee 15:53, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * You're right, it is updated daily. But since Wikipedia usually grows by several hundred articles a day the accuracy of this count is still very limited. --Morn

 * No. Unless something has recently changed then ror logged-in users it is updated in real time; all you have to do is reload the page. For anon users the count is only updated when somebody edits the main page to create a new version. This is due to the fact that we cache every page for anons. --mav

 * OK, sometimes I am logged in and sometimes not when I am reading or contributing to the site. That explains why the counter sometimes froze for me.
 * Still, the main question is if a first-time visitor really needs or wants the information with that seeming precision. There is a statistics page after all.
 * I see those three introductory sentences on the frontpage as the Wikipedia sales pitch. And while the first and third sentences are fine, the second sentence is a little weak and comes off as bean counting (two numbers in a sentence, not very good style).
 * The less nerdy our intro sounds, the less likely first time visitors will become vandals, I suspect. In the end, my question revolves more around the psychological effect on newcomers than the technical side of the issue. --Morn 22:37, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * I guess that's a matter of taste really - it looks just fine to me, and I also don't think that visitors will become vandals simply because the number is not rounded to the nearest 1K or so. That sounds a bit far-fetched really... -- Schnee 00:22, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * I prefer to have the maximum number of significant digits. Look at McDonalds Corp.  They put "one billion served", or "3 billion served" on their signs.  With so many zeroes, it makes people think that they don't really count!  Even if they only updated the sign weekly with a new number to the maximum number of significat digits, it would give more credibility to the number.  dave 12:37, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)

Logo voting
The front page should be changed to mention that the first round logo voting ends Sept 5 20:00 UTC. Jrincayc 02:59, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Done.
 * James F. 03:26, 5 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Lt Gen Bazilio Olara Okello
Dear Sir/ Madam I recently saw a detailed article on Bazilio by Col Joseph Ntare on your page, could you please forward it to me. Thank you James Tawny
 * I answered your query at the Village Pump which is the best place for this sort of query. Pete 12:07, 8 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Assination attmpts
I changed the "assassination attempt" link to Anna Lindh to "Anna Lindh" because there have been a few assasination attempts today -- in case people havent read the wires. Its too general a category. -戴&#30505sv 01:56, Sep 11, 2003 (UTC)

Chile
Surely the September 11 aniversary link should be Salvador Allende rather than Augusto Pinochet.

MIT Media Lab survey
See the discussion on the link to MIT Media Lab survey added to the main page of Wikipedia on September 11. Nanobug 23:36, 11 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Mahmoud Abbas
Shouldn't the "current events" link go to Abu Ala at this point rather than Mahmoud Abbas? -- AdamRaizen 18:22, 2003 Sep 13 (UTC)

 * Yes, it should. Done.
 * James F. 22:06, 13 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Underemployment
Would someone add the article Underemployment to the "New Articles" line? It's a well-written article. (I would, but I made some relatively minor changes -- adding links -- & I feel I should recuse myself.) -- llywrch 05:02, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Done.

 * James F. 14:08, 15 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Recent Deaths
Shouldn't someone add the Williams sisters' sister's death to the main page?

 * I dunno. Does she really qualify as suitable? She's only famous by association... (This also applies to adding her to RDs itself.)
 * James F. 00:40, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Response time
Moved to Village pump

You mean it's accurate?
Do we have to say "complete and accurate"? As if someone would be creating an inaccurate encyplopaedia? CGS 20:10, 16 Sep 2003 (UTC).

 * When any 4-year old or jerk can edit, I think it is necessary to mention that our goal is to be complete and accurate. --mav 01:59, 17 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hurricane Isabel
Why hasn't the hurricane ever registered on "In the News"? It's slamming North Carolina right now, and I think deserves mention (and I can't make the edit). -- VV 23:27, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

It needs an article. Does it have one? --Jiang 23:29, 18 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Yes: Hurricane Isabel. -- VV 00:05, 19 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Layout bad on Opera 7
The tables with the different language doesn't wrap with my setup (Opera 7) and generates a thousands of pixels wide table. Please look into this. Thanks, drx
 * I can confirm this (Opera 7.20 on winXP) - the yellow "Community" box is indeed thousands of pixels wide. The languages list reads "Wikipedia language list - Afrikaans [huuuuge gap] [arabic (in arabic script, right aligned]"  So it seems likely that it's a difference in how Opera handles R->L langages inside tablecells -- Finlay McWalter 13:06, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Elbasan?
What newsitem mentions this town? How is it deserving of the first place among current events? Just curious. --Igor 7:11, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * It's listed under "new articles". That doesn't mean "news articles". --Wik 06:13, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)

 * OK, silly me :), how does one go about selecting an particular article for the list? Surely, there must be thousands of new articles every day?

--Igor 23:24, 20 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Well, maybe not thousands, but there's a lot, yes :) Selection is done on a pretty informal basis - there are some guidelines at Selected Articles on the Main Page, but basically it boils down to trying to pick well-written, well-formatted articles of a reasonable length. --Camembert

Biographies
Would someone please update the link to Lists of people? The page was renamed some time ago. -- User:Docu

 * Done. Angela 17:59, Sep 20, 2003 (UTC)

Recent Deaths
How do we get to select which people appear on the front page? I think that Jack Brymer is deserving of this (died 15th September), as he was really a very distinguished clarinettist. David Martland 18:54, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I've added Jack Brymer. The relevant guidelines here are:
 * 1)  All links appearing in section should first be included on corresponding news/deaths/events/anniversaries page
 * 2) All links appearing in this section should go to non-stub entries (greater than 500 chars)
 * 3) Recent deaths: simply, famous people who have died within the last week or so.

Angela 20:02, Sep 21, 2003 (UTC)

Links
Why is there a separate link for "Software engineering" under "Applied Arts and Sciences"? A link for "Engineering" already is there.152.163.253.2 01:01, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * I partly agree that it is superfluous as software engineering is linked to from the engineering page, but on the other hand it is a very popular page, so I don't see any overwhelming reason to remove it. Angela 01:17, Sep 22, 2003 (UTC)

EU enlargement
The "EU enlargement" link should point to Enlargement of the European Union, not to European Union as it currently does. Cabalamat

 * Done. Thanks for spotting it. Angela

Galileo
The link to the Galileo spacecraft should be itealicized to meet standard style.64.12.96.47 01:34, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * NASA doesn't italisize it.Vancouverguy 01:38, 24 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * The Government Printing Office Style guide says that it should be. What does NASA know about writing style? 64.12.96.47 00:23, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Done. James F. 11:46, 25 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Moving
I'm stunned that that worked. I couldn't put it back without using an admin account. -BuddhaInside

 * Yes you could have. As long as the redirect page wasn't edited, you could have moved it back the same way you moved it out. -- Tim Starling 14:57, 26 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Recent Deaths: George Plimpton
His passing is at least as significant as that of Robert Palmer. Would someone with the proper access please add George to the list of Recent deaths featured on the Main Page? -- NetEsq 18:46, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)

International Wikipedias: Arabic
I have noticed that while the list of languages (on many wikipedia opening pages) refer to the Arabic Wikipedia as "(Araby)" or something like that, the Arabic script reads at best al-Arabiya (العربية)... and last I checked, we refer to languages rather than regions or countries (also according to the "Araby" transscript mentioned earlier).

Am I correct - Arabic readers please comment and correct - that it would be more appropriate to call this عربي instead? -- Ralesk 18:01, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)

PS: the bidi support of Mozilla is terrible :-(

PPS: as a matter of fact, Ericsson mobile phones that support Arabic interface language also write عربي.

 * I think I agree, although I don't actually speak Arabic, so I'm basing my opinion on a Google search. It would presumably need to be changed in the Language.php files by someone with CVS access. You may have more luck if you take this to the mailing list. Angela 20:47, Oct 3, 2003 (UTC)

 * I've noticed before (seems my post on this page was removed), that the Arabic letters didn't seem to match the English transliteration, just wasn't sure whether to change the English or the Arabic... Looking at the bottom of the Arabic main page, maybe العربية means Arabic, as an adjective rather than a noun. Κσυπ Cyp 07:03, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Rather the other way around... "al" is a definite article, so I'd guess al-Arabiya is the noun and arabiy (to follow one of the more reasonable Russian latin letter transscription conventions) would probably be the adjective. I wish our Arabic editors would step in and tell us what this all is about.  Then again, if we just list editions and we say, for example "German, Hindi, Hungarian", we are practically saying "German Wikipedia, Hindi Wikipedia, Hungarian Wikipedia" etc., which are pretty much adjectives aren't we?  If I'd say "there is an edition in Hungarian" then that'd be a noun, I believe.  So if I am correct, the first use, and thus the edition listing is the "arabiy" that is adjective use, and their mentioning of "how to edit wiki pages in Arabic", that sounds like there the "al-Arabiya" is indeed a noun. -- Ralesk 11:37, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Can someone confirm which is the correct version so we can update it? --Brion 17:39, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

800 x 600
Jiang, I fully appreciate the desirablity of having the Main page fit in an 800 x 600 screen, but if you are working on a 1024 x 768 or 1280 x 1024 screen (as I am) the correct size is not exactly intuitive when you are entering text. Perhaps a solution might be hard-coding the table cell width in the respective locations so that they wrap anything too long, making it directly obvious. Just an idea. -- Viajero 09:08, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)

An exhortation for us to become post-larval posted here can be read at user:Khranus

'''We are trying to make Wikipedia faster and more responsive. You can help by making a donation.'''

 * ...and the donation page does not even work
 * It does for me. Maybe it was a temporary glitch? Pete 15:08, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Strange that nobody noticed it. http://wikimediafoundation.org/fundraising Works perfect with Mozilla Firebird but not with IE 6.0 on the computer at work or IE 5.5 at home. Only the left menu is loaded. The right is blank. I send this also to Wikitech-l  Giskart Walter 20:24, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * The right-hand side loads works for me at work (WinNT4/IE5.5) and at home (WinXP/IE6.0)... fraid I can't tell you why it does for me and not you
 * It works now thanks to Brion. Giskart Walter 22:50, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * Think the whole thing did work, just had to scroll down past a few pages of blank space. (Mentioned it on Village pump.) Κσυπ Cyp 06:51, 8 Oct 2003 (UTC)

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"The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words." -Phillip K. Dick

(Don't you think wikipedia is at least a step in the direction of freeing up words so as to decentralise control over 'words'? sorry to add a comment to this page if you'd rather it go somewhere else, but seeing as how this is a comment about wikipedia itself...)

Khranus

I thought it was pretty silly to remove Steve Biko just to make room for an awfully long last name, when a first name will do, because everybody in the world knows who Arnold is. Silly is ov course a nice way of puttin it.戴&#30505sv 08:04, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * YEEES! And if they don't, (are they living in a cave somewhere?) they click Arnold out of curiousity. Sometimes I get the impression that people are so literal-minded here, with no sense of humor. Like when Galileo was listed under Recent deaths, which I thought was kind of witty. It only last about six hours before some humor-challenged admin. switched it to In the news with the comment: "satellites don't die". Oh. -- Viajero 08:39, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * I agree with you that sometimes humour is sacrificed on the artifical altar of being "encyclopedic". I have been on the receiving end myself (see Talk:London Congestion Charge). I was said to see the Galileo 'death' get moved, that was a good neat bit of humour. However, how is writing "Arnold" humourous? In that case it is better simply to be as informative as possible to readers. Pete 09:24, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * Obviously not everyone in the world knows who "Arnold" is. More pertinently not everyone who reads the front page of the Wikipedia knows who it is. I know that for a fact, because when I opened up the main page the other day I didn't know for sure who it was, because frankly my dears I don't give a damn about Hollywood and the elections for some province of some country that speaks English (or least not so much that I just use the first name of the winning candidate). Would you automatically who I meant if I wrote "Ken"? Your arrogance is not becoming. Note also that a Google search for "Arnold" gives 8 different Arnolds in the first ten pages.
 * Of course the current solution of just writing Schwarzennegger is a much better solution that what I put... I was just not certain that about the screen fit for 800*600 resolutions so was too cautious. Pete 09:24, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * Yup, Ken Livingstone. Aside from that, perhaps you are right, but if a European celebrity ran a noisy campaign in which his or her followers referred to her frequently by the first name, I wouldn't mind seeing it on the first page, even if I didn't immediately recognize who it was; I think I would get the point. Anyway, 'nuff said. -- Viajero 09:43, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * Nearly nuff said... you make good points.. apologies for over-reacting ... I allowed myself to get annoyed by Sv's rather sharp comments. Pete 10:05, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * No problem! I assure you that I am on your side. I don't live in the US either, and I am generally pretty alert to American provincialism sneaking into Wiki. Anyway, A. Sch. has now been deposed in favor of Shirin Ebadi on the Main Page, a completely different kettle of fish. -- Viajero 12:34, 10 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Hey!!! Someone Take out the Arabic Text from the main page (العربية). The problem is not with Arabians, no racism intended. The problem is that my browser [Opera 7 http://www.opera.com] generates a thousands pixel wide table, could someone fix that, it happens only with the (العربية) in the main page, not in other pages, could someone fix it or delete it. It appears to be a problem with bidirectional text. Changing web browser, no chance! I use opere for speed and convinience :) Elnoyola 00:27, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * "Change browser, no chance!" What??? Your solution to the Arabic link problem, which is fine with every other browser, is to say "WIkipedia must change, because I, me, me, me... will not change MY browser to something made after 1996" -- is ridiculous. Read my lips-RI-DiC-CU=Lous. The rule, as Anthere helped us figure out a while ago, the argumet "I like my ancient old, but comfortable brower hold abosolutely no weight whatsoever. Sorry nice try. 戴&#30505sv
 * Err.. Stevertigo, try writing something you have a clue about. Opera 7? 1996? You'd do well to apologise to Elnoyola. Pete 07:40, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * I removed it until someone can figure out what was wrong with it and fix it. Angela 00:36, Oct 12, 2003 (UTC)

Hello, Angela, I suppose that you after 7 minutes of my post on the Talk Page corrected the Arabic Link. Thanks, the main page now work well. Possible solutions: Write: Arabic Text Backwards (Like arabic Right to Left without using the  (amp sign) (number sign) 8238;, that I think changes the direction of text) or use a transliteration od the Arabic Name. Thanks for solving the problem really fast, less than 7 minutes after my post.

Mug shots?
Are police mug shots public domain? - user:zanimum

 * Generally no - they belong to whatever municipality that took them. But if the US government took it (FBI, Justice Department, federal prison), then it is in the public domain. However, I've never heard of a market for mugshots nor any municipality suing anybody over using them in any context. They, to me at least, seem like publicity shots by celebrities (the celebrities want their publicity photos widely distributed; likewise authorities want their photos of criminals to be distributed widely). This also seems like something that would not only be fair use for us (a non-profit educational use), but even with downstream commercial users. So even though IANAL, I say go ahead and use them (just say where you got it on the image description page). --mav

Main Page wiki text
As only the administrators can edit the text of the Main Page, how can one get the actual wiki text for adapting it to one of the other Wikipedias (non-en)? I know that the page changes, but some links are invariant, ditto for the formatting. ¬ Dori 01:42, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * It's also a GFDL violation, as has been pointed out on a mailing list or two. Allowing people to obtain the wikitext for protected pages is generally considered a good idea, just no-one's gotten around to coding it yet. If you just want it for the purposes of adapting to another language, you could get it from the layout proposal page Main Page/Temp. -- Tim Starling 01:53, Oct 14, 2003 (UTC)

 * The HTML source is still available, so it is not a violation per the letter of the GFDL. I just updated Main Page/Temp, but a "View source" link on every protected page would be better (seems like that would be easy to code to me, but then I'm PHP illiterate). --mav 02:10, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Yes I know that I can get the html, but I am lazy and would rather not adapt it to wiki :) Tim, thanks for the link. ¬ Dori 02:28, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * There's no view source link in the interface yet but the function is there: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Main_Page&action=edit

 * (Also the wiki source is in the downloadable database dumps, but that's a little more work to find the page you want!) --Brion 23:53, 14 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Albanian Wikipedia
Could someone with powers put a link to the Albanian Wikipedia (e.g. Shqip ) in the appropriate place? No articles yet, but it might entice a passing-by Albanian less lazy than myself to do something about it :) thanks ¬ Dori 06:32, Oct 16, 2003 (UTC)

 * Done! -- Brion

Karl Malden honoured
Might be pushing it but in case somebody agrees, not just any Hollywood actor, this one is getting a lifetime achievement award at 91.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/3193816.stm

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=387984&section=news

Saint Teresa
This is supposed to be on Selected Articles for the Main Page, but, can we fit in Saint Teresa? We already have John Paul II on the front page, but she seems seperately important. I'd replace another news headline, but all seem so important. - user:zanimum

 * As in Mother Teresa? Isn't she just being beatified, not canonized? Adam Bishop 12:50, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
 * Now I'm confused. Radio and TV were calling her a Saint, but BBC says she'll just be canonized. - user:zanimum

Recent Deaths
I think that Eugene Istomin is worth noting as a recent death. Also Denis Quilley - though I'll have to check the articles. Istomin's is taking shape, and perhaps satisfies the requirements. He was at least as well known in music as many of the others that get a mention. David Martland 05:42, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Done. Angela 04:52, Oct 18, 2003 (UTC)

Does drummer Tony Thompson (Chic, David Bowie, Power Station) merit a mention? Catherine 05:27, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Categories
Originally, Philosophy was with "Mathematics and Natural Sciences." I believe that it should be restored to this category. Say what you will about philosphy, but it does not belong beside the social sciences. Traditional views of knowledge categories group philosophy into the same group as mathematics.

I propose slightly modified categories: Philosophy & Mathematics, Natural Science, Applied Science, Social Science, Humanities, and Fine Art.

Psychology was originally seen as being as an elevated branch of philosophy but lost that status in the 20th century when it progressed more toward a science. Philosophy has nothing to do with psychology anymore.

CATEGORY DEFINITIONS to avoid ambiguity!!

Philosophy & Mathematics: Purely analytic ways of knowing. This should be seperated from science because science is not as "pure" as mathematics. (Comptuer science is not self-evident analytic knowledge!!)

Natural Science: Sciences that are concerned with natural phenomena. (e.g. biology, physics, earth science, chemistry, etc.)

Social Science: Sciences that study aspects of society using theories and scientific models. (e.g. sociology, political science, economics, etc.)

Applied Science: Scientific knowledge that is applied to a specific end. (e.g. engineering, health science, computer engineering, computer science, etc.)

Humanities: Knowledge systems that do not require fine art skills and do not accumulate knowledge through scientific means. (e.g. history, mythology, theology, law, etc.)

Fine arts: Any mode of production, including that which is produced, which requires a skill that cannot be learned but through practice and excersises (hence a fine skill or "talent"). (theatre, dance, ballet, music, poetry, opera, film, etc.)

Furthermore... if it is not a system of knowledge (e.g. "tourism") I don't think it belongs on the main page, or at least in a sepearte section.

- PETA/Pamela Anderson/Kentucky Fried Chicken is in the news. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Nathaniel Heatwole is in the news. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Why does the Abortion in the U.S. link to go Intact dilation and extraction, and not Abortion in the United States? I think it's inaccurate to link to the specific technique when the label does not match. Fuzheado

 * I've changed the link so it now goes to Abortion in the United States. Fuzheado 02:23, 22 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I went from the Main Page of Wikipedia, until I got into the section with an alphabetical listing of subjects. In that alphabetical listening I found "transexualism" (a missplelling of "transsexualism"), and "transexuality" (a misspelling of "transsexuality"). -DN
 * Shall fix Dysprosia 09:00, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

WikiSource
Is there a reason for not mentioning WikiSource in the para. "Syster Projects"? Found it in the French Main Page^^ Dod1 13:48, 25 Oct 2003 (UTC) Can you please respond to this question? ^^ Dod1 21:03, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Little Orphan Annie's Second Plea for Help
I've "changed" my username to Little Orphan Annie before for this exact same purpose, so I'll do it again.

Once again I dawn a red wig to plea to someone to just update the Orphaned pages list. I know the server is slow, that's why it doesn't automatically do it. But they haven't changed since May. I thought after the first time I became the cute red head that the list would update at least every two months. But the list has just sat, and all articles were linked to.

If this doesn't finally get someone on the course of action to update the list every month or so, I seriously will change my username to Little Orphan Annie in protest. - Little Orphan Annie

 * Try asking at SQL query requests. Angela 23:25, Oct 27, 2003 (UTC)

Why are people not removing the articles on the right and adding to the left? The World Series is still stuck there on the left-hand side, yet the news is getting old now. Someone added Wildfires to the right-hand side, and someone else added the Ian Smith or whatever to the middle!? What is going on here? dave 04:06, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * I can only speak to my own addition. I took a look at the story behind all the headlines listed, and made a considered choice, balancing age of news, importance of news and general cultural balance. Maybe that was wrong. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 04:33, Oct 29, 2003 (UTC)

Why does the link say "Iain Duncan Smith" but point to UK Conservative party? --Wik 07:34, Oct 29, 2003 (UTC)

Suggestion of new feature in Wikipedia software. How about a User-To-User page that would be a page that associates two users? A URL might look like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UserToUser.phtml?User1=MyUserName&User2=YourUserName

The reason is I have people leave me messages on my talk page but I have no idea the context. If I reply to them on my talk page they might never see it unless they happen to be monitoring my talk page. So I go to their talk page and unless I quote their message they won't know the context. If instead any messages where placed on a User-To-User page, and any User-To-User pages that referenced me that have been recently updated would show in my watchlist.

Whadayathink? MikeSchinkel 00:09, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * I can't think of a problem with that. I guess the developers have the ball on stuff like this. -- Cimon Avaro on a pogostick 00:36, Oct 30, 2003 (UTC)

Note to Zanimum
Maybe I am blind, but I see no relevant anniversary date in Lend-lease. What's going on? -- Viajero 18:33, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * The other ones Zanimum added did not have context either. But even if they were updated to establish context, then we should still wait a day before listing them because they are already listed on October 30. When that page falls off the Main Page and those articles are updated, then a few good examples should be listed. Summarizing a list that is already directly linked does not encourage people to visit the current day page. Also, the point of that section is to show off our articles on historical events. So a combination of the 'majorness' of the event, the mix of items already listed, along with the relative completeness of the article, have to be the filter we use (no context, of course, means no listing on the Main Page; we want to encourage people to update the articles - the reward being a possible Main Page listing - and we don't want to confuse readers). --mav 18:53, 30 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * All of these points are listed and were listed on the calendar page for October 30. I don't see how these articles don't count, the Land-Lease and War of the Worlds are certainly major.
 * October 30, 1938 - Orson Welles broadcasts his radio play of H. G. Wells's The War of the Worlds, causing a nationwide panic.
 * October 30, 1941 - World War II: Franklin Delano Roosevelt approves US$1 billion in Lend-Lease aid to the Soviet Union.
 * October 30, 1470 - Henry VI of England returns to the throne after Earl of Warwick defeats Yorkists in battle.
 * October 30, 2001 - Michael Jordan returns to the National Basketball Association with the Washington Wizards after 3 1/2 years (the Wizards lose 93-91 to the New York Knicks).
 * Granted I do relize now that it should have been linked to War of the Worlds (radio), other than that I can't see the problem. - user:zanimum

 * Zanimum, the point is that articles listed under In the news,  Recent deaths, New articles;, and Week in history should indicate in the article itself the relevant date and other information, which Mav refers to as context. So, if you go to the article, it is immediately explicit why it is listed (which wasn't the case, for example, with Lend-lease). Being listed under the appropriate day isn't enough. I don't know who cooked this policy up but it is a good one.
 * I have one small favor to ask of you as someone who regularly updates the Main page as I do: do you think you could indicate in the Summary what your change is? It would make it much easier to track the changes to the page. Thanks in advance. -- Viajero 15:00, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)

 * Just read the guideline on this issue Zanimum: Selected Articles on the Main Page --mav

 * I have reworked and added the above text to Selected Articles on the Main Page -- Viajero 13:19, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Page space
Out of curiosity, how come Week in history gets two lines? Shouldn't In the news and New articles get two lines too? Kingturtle 21:32, 1 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Because there is far more past history to cover than current history. "Recent deaths" is already the second line of current news. --mav 11:28, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Richard Neustadt died Lirath Q. Pynnor

The "new articles" should be at the bottom of the selected articles list; the other 3 are related to the news; "new articles" is just some random sysops selection of random articles -- however, "anniversaries" is 2 lines long; and, we don't want a two liner admist one liners...so, "new articles" should either be deleted or increased to two lines. Lirath Q. Pynnor

 * Clarification: "New articles" may be arbitrary choices but they are not random. -- Viajero 17:58, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Without any formal procedure governing what is placed there; its pretty random -- regardless, it is not of the same category as the other 3; and should not be intermingled. Lirath Q. Pynnor

 * Random suggests they are picked out of a hat. In actuality, a human mind decides which ones to choose, based on criteria. Kingturtle 23:20, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Right...how about acknowledging my actual point (rather than my opinion on some side issue); that the "new articles" shouldn't be interspersed between three lists of articles whose topics are, in some way, related to the current date? Lirath Q. Pynnor

 * Uh - the articles were created around the current date. --mav 23:41, 3 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Whoever runs the Main Page should consider adding Edgardo Mortara to the New Articles list. It's beautifully written. Michael Hardy 00:41, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * It was created on Oct 23. Many hundreds of even newer articles have added since then. --mav 03:22, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)~

Inserting comma
Pardon me if this has been done to death already, but wouldn't it be better to have a comma in the centre of the figure indicating the number of articles being worked on, i.e., 170,323 instead of 170323? Moriori 22:58, 5 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * The problem is that a comma is used as a decimal point in most of Europe so it could appear confusing. Angela 23:12, Nov 5, 2003 (UTC)

 * Umm, isn't it their problem they don't conform to Wiki style and not the rest of the world's? Can you imagine removing all the commas on the List Of Countries By Population page (and throughout the rest of Wikipedia)?  Heh heh. Moriori 02:07, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Wikipedia is multinational. And yes, some words and punctuation are different - but as long as we all can read it, I don't see how there's a problem.  Using *no* separators in numbers makes it unambigious.  -- Pakaran 23:17, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Why not add some sort of new markup feature for handling numbers, where the display format is controlled by the user's preferences? Not putting commas when giving elevation in feet makes it harder to read but then it may be confusing to those who are used to a comma being used as the decimal point. There is inconsistency when using commas on pages containing elevation (e.g. mountains) RedWolf 08:12, Nov 10, 2003 (UTC)

width and height for the wikipedia logo
It would be great, if the measures of the Wikipedia-Logo (wiki.png) could be fixed using HTML width and height attributes, since this could reserve space for the image even it is not loaded and would make rendering faster. 82.82.117.237 17:54, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Bobby Hatfield of the Righteous Brothers is a recent death. -- Cyan 22:59, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Pretty meager article for the Main page, doncha think? -- Viajero 23:19, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Richard Neustadt recently died, its irritating that I have to again suggest this. People with worse articles, who are less notable; get on the recent deaths list -- why are my suggestions being ignored? Lirath Q. Pynnor

 * Your suggestion was not ignored. As you can see from the page history, I added the article to the Main page on Sunday but Angela took it off several hours later because of the "edit war". However, I am not going to argue for adding it again until the typography has been quieted down; as it now stands, it looks like a billboard -- Viajero 13:57, 7 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I suggest create an online tool to resize jpg and png uploaded images to the ideal wikipedia image size Mac
 * It might be better to suggest this in the feature requests section at SourceForge rather than here. There are instructions on how to do this on the Bug reports and feature requests page. Angela 14:54, Nov 9, 2003 (UTC)

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Japan general election
Please add a link to Japan general election, 2003. Thanks -- Taku 17:30, Nov 9, 2003 (UTC)
 * Done. Angela 17:39, Nov 9, 2003 (UTC)

Anniversaries

 * This month sees the 50th anniversary of the uncovering of the Piltdown Man hoax, with a major exhibition at the NHM Andy Mabbett 09:41, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Anyone? Andy Mabbett 16:33, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

 * Today is the first anniversary of the Prestige's sinking. --zeno 11:08, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Done. -- Viajero 13:48, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Urgent
There is a br-Tag or something similar in the section "Wikipedia in other languages". --zeno 13:27, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * I removed an unneccessary carriage return in the source, which means that the languages are all now shown in the same font size in my browser (IE5.something) Hope this fixes whatever problem you were having. Pete 13:43, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Houston Museum District

The Houston Museum District is an association of 19 museums, galleries, cultural centers and community organizations located in Houston, Texas, dedicated to promoting art, science, history and culture.

The Houston Museum District currently includes 19 museums that recorded a collective attendance of over 8.7 million visitors a year. All of the museums offer free times or days and 11 of the museums are free all the time. Thursdays the Museum District gets particularly crowded because of museum free days. On Thursdays, The Houston Museum of Natural Science is free after 2 p.m., The Children's Museum of Houston is free after 5 p.m., The Health Museum is free from 2–7, and the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston is free all day.

Houston's Museum District is walkable and bikeable. Sidewalks are wide and well-maintained, and attractions and restaurants are situated near each other.

The district is bordered roughly by Texas State Highway 288, Hermann Park, U.S. Route 59, and the Texas Medical Center. The Museum District Civic Association compared the area to Georgetown in Washington, D.C., and to the French Quarter of New Orleans.

The Museum District is served by four stops on the METRORail, one specifically named for it and is easily accessible from I-69/US 59, State Highway 288 and Main Street, across from the main entrance to Rice University.

The beginnings of the Museum District are found in 1977, when it became apparent that some action needed to be taken to provide easier access to the museums of the area. This call for community improvement evolved into the non-profit Montrose Project by the mid-1980s but changed into the Museum District Development Association of Houston (MDDAH) shortly thereafter. Based on the works of this organization, the Museum District was formally recognized by the City of Houston in 1989. The founding organization was dissolved in 1994, but the Museum District is now under the auspices of the Houston Museum District Association, founded in 1997.

The Museum District attracts visitors, students and volunteers of all ages, backgrounds, and ethnicities to learn about and celebrate art, history, culture, and nature around the world. More information on the 20 institutions of Houston's Museum District may be found on their official website.

The Third Ward Redevelopment Council defines the Museum District as being part of the Third Ward. T. R. Witcher of the Houston Press wrote in 1995 that the district and nearby areas are "not the first places that come to mind when you say "Third Ward,"[...]".

History
In the late 1970s, the area currently including the Houston Museum District had fallen into disrepair, badly needing attention from local, county and state governments to improve roads and beautify the area, then unsafe for pedestrian traffic and cyclists.

The Houston Museum District began as a grassroots community movement in 1977 led by Alexandra R. Marshall whose concept was to create a pedestrian-friendly district with the Museum of Fine Arts, at the intersection of Bissonnet Street and Montrose Boulevard, as its core. In such a strongly vehicle-oriented city, and one which to this day retains the title of the largest city in the United States without zoning, this was fairly progressive.

The Museum District Development Association of Houston proposed a multi-phase plan to beautify and make more pedestrian-friendly the area located between Allen Parkway, Buffalo Bayou and Hermann Park. It took advantage of the opportunity to create in Houston an area of vital urban importance, similar to the French Quarter in New Orleans, St. Germain in Paris, and Georgetown in Washington, DC.

Since its creation, the numerous efforts of the Houston Museum District organizations have included community improvement projects, tree planting, sidewalk planning, construction and expansion, esplanade design, development and beautification, establishment of public transportation to and from the area, police support and various cultural events The Montrose Association, the Museum Area Municipal Association, the South Main Civic Association, the Cultural Arts Center of Houston and TALA (Texas Accountants and Lawyers for the Arts) all played a part in the development and subsequent success in the creation of the Houston Museum District.

Timeline

 * 1977: Concept formulated, area associations involved.
 * January 1986: Montrose Project incorporated.
 * July 1986: Montrose Project becomes the Museum District Development Association of Houston.
 * March 1987: MDDAH gains 501(c)3 status.
 * May 1988: “Raiders of the Lost Art” event held to raise funds and awareness of the District.
 * September 1989: The Museum District receives a Clean Houston Honorable Mention in the Proud Partners Awards for its Museum District Improvement program.
 * September 1989: Business leaders, museum directors and members gathered to sign a coalition agreement supporting a City of Houston Resolution creating an official Museum District.
 * October 18, 1989: The area along Montrose Boulevard, from Allen Parkway to Hermann Park was designated by the City of Houston City Council and Mayor Kathryn Whitmire as the official Museum District of Houston.
 * 1990: The Cultural Arts Council of Houston, now known as Houston Arts Alliance published The Cultural Guide to Houston, a guide book of Houston which included maps of each cultural center in the city, including a map of the Museum District.
 * December 1991: MDDAH helped host the 5th Annual Christmas and Hanukkah in Neartown, with a tree lighting, caroling and a Children's Parade and Festival.
 * May 1992: “Savor the Flavors” benefit held for the Museum District, highlighting 23 local restaurants.
 * 1994: The organized abandonment/dissolution of the 501(c)3 Museum District Development Association of Houston. Records were handed off to the South Main Center Association for further collaboration and development within the community.
 * November 1996: Shepherded by the South Main Center Association, now South Main Alliance, the organizations of the Museum District joined to publish a brochure, promoting the Museum District, which included new member museums.
 * January 1997: Eleven institutions reincorporated the Houston Museum District Association as a 501(c)3 corporation. Five new museums joined in 2002 and two more in 2007.

Founding members
According to 1st board meeting notes (October 4, 1986):

Directors:
 * Alexandra Marshall, Chairman
 * Ora Harrison, President
 * Lyn Mathre
 * Jan Chism
 * John B. Honeycutt
 * Barbara Brown
 * Jill Hafner
 * Nancy Hinckley
 * Candyce Rylander
 * Dr. William Shiffick

Ex Officio members

 * Peter Marzio, Director, Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
 * Truett Latimer, Director, Houston Museum of Natural Science
 * Jane Jerry, Director, The Children's Museum
 * Paul Winkler, Director, The Menil Collection
 * Suzanne Delehanty, Director, The Contemporary Arts Museum
 * Don Piercy, Director, The Museum of Print History
 * Harla Kaplin, Director, Houston Fotofest, Inc.
 * Jean Caslin, Director, Houston Center for Photography

Participating civic leaders at founding

 * Marty Reiner, executive director, South Main Center Association
 * Kathy Hanns, Director, The Art League of Houston
 * Sarah Brunon, President, Neartown Association
 * Gail Ramsey, President, Neartown Business Alliance
 * Barry Moore, President, Museum Area Municipal Association
 * Mimi Walker, President, Westmoreland Civic Association
 * Burt Nix, President, Greater Montrose Business Guild
 * Andrea di Bagno, Representative, Audubon Civic Club
 * Jan Cato, Representative, Shadowlawn Civic Club
 * Dr. Joseph McFadden, University of St. Thomas
 * Dr. John Lancaster, Pastor, First Presbyterian Church
 * Don Olson, Director, Parks and Recreation Department, City of Houston

Current museum members

 * Asia Society Texas Center
 * Buffalo Soldiers National Museum
 * Children's Museum of Houston
 * Contemporary Arts Museum Houston
 * Czech Center Museum Houston
 * DiverseWorks
 * The Health Museum
 * Holocaust Museum Houston
 * Houston Center for Contemporary Craft
 * Houston Center for Photography
 * Houston Museum of African American Culture
 * Houston Museum of Natural Science
 * Houston Zoo
 * The Jung Center Of Houston
 * Lawndale Art Center
 * The Menil Collection
 * Moody Center for the Arts
 * The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston
 * The Rothko Chapel

Parks and other institutions
 * Clayton Library Center for Genealogical Research
 * Hermann Park

Funding
Originally, funding was completely based on private sources—association member dues and members’ donations. Later, with growing awareness of the MDDAH and their work, funding came from numerous other sources.

Today, total operating budgets for the member museums exceed $80 million, funded almost completely from revenues and private donations. Museum District funding includes approximately $1.5 million in Hotel Occupancy Tax funds from the City of Houston and the Houston Arts Alliance; contributions from all participating museums; foundation support from The Houston Endowment, Inc.; The John P. McGovern Foundation; The Wortham Foundation, Inc.; The Brown Foundation, Inc.; Susan Vaughan Foundation, Inc.; and corporate support from  KHOU-TV Channel 11, KUHT-TV (PBS), the Houston Chronicle, Texas Monthly, Exxon, and Cadillac.

Public issues
The District plays an ongoing role in forming responses to public concerns and opportunities that include transportation improvements, signage, visitor information, area beautification, flood control and urban planning considerations. The HMDA also serves as an intermediary, which fosters an ongoing dialogue among the museums in the district to maintain continuing interest and visitation in the area.

Leadership
Laurette Canizares, executive director, Houston Museum District Association Gina Miller, Programming and Public Relations Manager, Houston Museum District Association

Residential areas
Museum Park Neighborhood Association (MPNA) serves houses roughly bound by Texas State Highway 288, Hermann Park, Main Street, and Alabama Street. Several apartment and/or condo communities are already in the area and new ones are currently being built and developed. One benefit of living at The Circle at Hermann Park, The Mosaic, The Parklane, The Plaza, The Warwick, or new residential communities being built is that residents enjoy easy walking distance to the Houston Zoo, The Children's Museum of Houston, The Houston Museum of Natural Science, Miller Outdoor Theater, Hermann Park, The Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, and more.

In 2003 Keiji Asakura of SLA Studio Land presented the Museum District Walk Project, a project to expand walkability in the area. In 2015 a walkability study came from SWA Group.

By 2018 residential condominiums became a popular form of residence in the community.

Parking
Parking in the Houston Museum District can be tricky if you visit on Thursdays, weekends, HISD Spring/Summer/Winter vacation days, or evenings when Miller Outdoor Theater is hosting a popular show. A parking lot adjacent to the McGovern Centennial Gardens on Hermann Drive was added in 2014. You may park there for free. Parking in the lot across from the Law Building at MFAH is also free. You may also park at the zoo or in the lot near the Rice University Light Rail Station for free (there is a 3-hour time limit). You may pay to park along Hermann Drive or on side streets, in the HMNS garage, or in various garages. You may also park along the MetroRail Line and take the light rail train to Rice University or The Museum District stops.

Primary and secondary schools
The Houston Independent School District (HISD) operates area public schools.

Elementary schools serving portions of the Museum District area:
 * MacGregor
 * Poe

Middle schools serving portions of the Museum District area: Beginning in 2018 Baylor College of Medicine Academy at Ryan also serves as a boundary option for students zoned to Blackshear, Lockhart, and MacGregor elementary schools.
 * Cullen (east of Fannin Street and Montrose Boulevard)
 * Lanier (west of Fannin Street and Montrose Boulevard)

Lamar High School serves houses in the Museum District area.

Presbyterian School is located in the Museum District. The Post Oak High School, a private Montessori high school, opened in the northern hemisphere fall of 2012. It is the first high school in the Museum District.

In 2013 Houston A+ Challenge announced that the private middle school A+ Unlimited Potential would open in the Museum District area.

Public libraries
The Houston Public Library Clayton Library, Center for Genealogical Research is located in the Museum District. The genealogical collection, originally housed in the Julia Ideson Building in Downtown Houston, moved to the William Clayton Home, a Georgian-style house built in 1917, in the Museum District in 1968. A site for a new building, adjacent to the Clayton Home, was purchased in 1986. The new building, which was built in 1988, was designed to complement the Clayton Home. The city implemented a $6.8 million renovation project for the Clayton Home and the guest house and carriage house on the property in the 2000s. The city planned to renovate the property so it would meet LEED standards. The city installed an elevator in the guest house so the building could be used as an administrative office. The carriage house received an addition so it could function as a 100-person conference room. The Clayton site can accommodate one plenary session and four breakout meetings, which would be required for a national genealogical conference. The Houston Business Journal awarded the renovation as the best historic renovation for its 2009 Landmark Awards. There is also a branch of the Houston Public Library in the Children's Museum of Houston.

Religion
First Presbyterian Church is located in the Museum District. St. Mathew's Lutheran Church and St. Paul's United Methodist Church are located in the Museum District.

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Don Valley Parkway

The Don Valley Parkway (DVP) is a municipal freeway in Toronto, Ontario, Canada, which connects the Gardiner Expressway in downtown Toronto with Highway 401. North of Highway 401, it continues as Highway 404. The parkway runs through the parklands of the Don River valley, after which it is named. It has a maximum speed limit of 90 km/h for its entire length of 15.0 km. It is six lanes for most of its length, with eight lanes north of York Mills Road and four lanes south of Eastern Avenue. As a municipal road, it is patrolled by the Toronto Police Service.

The parkway was the second expressway to be built by Metropolitan Toronto (Metro) after the Gardiner Expressway. Planning began in 1954, the year of Metro's formation. The first section opened during 1961 and the entire route was completed to Sheppard Avenue by the end of 1966. South of Bloor Street, the parkway was constructed over existing roadways. North of Bloor Street, it was built on a new alignment through the valley, requiring the removal of several hills, diversion of the Don River and the clearing of woodland. North of Eglinton Avenue, the parkway follows the former Woodbine Avenue right-of-way north to Highway 401. A proposed extension to Steeles Avenue was instead taken over by the province and built as Highway 404, which also absorbed the Metro-built segment between Sheppard and Highway 401. The parkway was planned to be one of several municipal and provincial north–south expressways into downtown Toronto. The others, the Spadina Expressway (Allen Road) and a proposed southern extension of Highway 400 were truncated due to public opposition, leaving the parkway as the sole north–south expressway connecting downtown to the northern areas of Metro; the only other complete north-south freeway connecting to the Gardiner Expressway is Highway 427 at Toronto's west end.

Traffic conditions on the parkway often exceed its intended capacity of 60,000 vehicles per day. Today, some sections carry an average of 100,000 vehicles a day and have bumper-to-bumper traffic conditions during commuting hours. The parkway is also used by regional transit buses which can access designated lanes to pass slow-moving traffic. Locals refer to the parkway as the "Don Valley Parking Lot" due to the bumper-to-bumper traffic.

In November 2023, the municipal and provincial governments announced a tentative deal which will see responsibility for the Don Valley Parkway and the Gardiner Expressway transferred to the province and both maintained as provincial highways.

Route description
The Don Valley Parkway begins at an interchange with the Gardiner Expressway near the mouth of the Don River in downtown Toronto. From there, the parkway runs northwards on the eastern bank of the valley, between the river and the developed city to the east. Beyond the southern, older section of the city, the valley widens and the parkway continues northwards through the parklands along the river to Don Mills Road. The route leaves the valley, rises to meet Eglinton Avenue, descends into the valley again and goes through the park lands of Milne Hollow to Lawrence Avenue. The parkway ascends to meet York Mills Road and ends at Highway 401, with the physical road continuing as Highway 404.

South of the Forks
At its southern end near the mouth of the Don River, the parkway begins in a multiple-level interchange with the ground-level Lake Shore Boulevard and the elevated Gardiner Expressway directly above the boulevard. The Gardiner–Don Valley ramps provide access to the section of the Gardiner Expressway west of the parkway. There is no access either from or to the Gardiner east of the parkway (before the Gardiner's east end realignment that commenced in 2021, the Gardiner ended shortly after crossing the Don River as it descended and merged into Lake Shore Boulevard via the Logan Avenue ramp from 2002-2021, prior to that the elevated Gardiner extended to Leslie Street from 1966-2001 where it was known as Gardiner East). To travel east from the southbound lanes of the parkway, motorists must exit via an off-ramp that meets the Lake Shore Boulevard at a signalized intersection.

Less than 500 m north of the Gardiner, the Canadian National Railway (CNR)/GO Toronto railway viaduct passes over the parkway. The interchange is constrained by that distance for the Gardiner—Don Valley two-lane ramps bridge the difference in height from ground-level under the viaduct with the height of the Gardiner. Acceleration and deceleration lanes for the Lake Shore—Don Valley ramps connect under the viaduct.

From the viaduct, the parkway proceeds north as a four-lane freeway on a straight course along the east bank of the channelized Don River, passing beneath the Eastern Avenue Bypass viaduct and veering slightly to the east as it passes below Queen Street East. On- and off-ramps project northward from the Eastern Avenue viaduct, each adding a lane to both carriageways. The expressway continues northward, with the Don River sandwiched between the highway and Bayview Avenue. The Parkway passes beneath Dundas and Gerrard Streets and rises onto the 'Don Flats' plateau at Riverdale Park. In this section, the elevation of the highway is close to the level of the river and is liable to flood after heavy rains, as occurred in June 2010, for example.

North from Riverdale Park, the valley widens considerably. The expressway rises from the floor of the valley and passes beneath the towering Prince Edward Viaduct bridge, which connects Bloor Street with Danforth Avenue and carries a subway line. The highway runs along the eastern wall of the valley for the next several kilometres, rising and dipping repeatedly.

The expressway curves eastward into a cut in the hillside as it passes the 'Half-mile' railway bridge. Immediately to the north, it meets the Bayview Avenue–Bloor Street connector at a trumpet interchange. The long off-ramp to these roads was the original southern terminus of the parkway in 1961. The off-ramp was later proposed as the eastern terminus of the proposed Crosstown Expressway. This expressway, opposed by the City of Toronto, was never built: it was intended for construction only after the completion of the Spadina Expressway, which itself was cancelled in 1971.

Just north of the Bayview–Bloor interchange, the expressway passes over Pottery Road. To the east is Todmorden Mills, a collection of historic buildings and a former industrial site, the original "Don Mills". The nearby pond was a section of the Don River cut off by the parkway construction. Further north, to the west where the highway crosses Beechwood Avenue, is Crothers Woods, a restoration site.

The expressway continues east along the southern edge of the valley. The opposing lanes split as the expressway passes beneath the Leaside Bridge, the southbound lanes at a lower level. The lanes rejoin as they approach the Don Mills Road interchange at the "forks of the Don". Just east of the Don Mills Road interchange, several large white sculptures resembling human teeth are installed on both sides of the road. The sculptures, called The Elevated Wetlands, are examples of "eco-art" and have become a landmark. The sculptures resemble concrete but are made of plastic and filled with waste plastic and wetland plants. The sculptures function as a water filter, removing pollutants from the Don River. A solar-powered pump lifts water to the top of the sculpture and it is returned to the Don after filtration. The sculptures were installed in 1998 and the wetland plants added in 1999.

North to Highway 401
The expressway crosses Taylor-Massey Creek and the East Don River, and climbs out of the valley, swinging northwards toward Eglinton Avenue. In this section, the DVP passes around the apartment buildings of Flemingdon Park. The lanes split again before the underpass at Spanbridge Road, the road that connects a three-tower complex of apartments to the east of the parkway with Flemingdon Park to the west. The lanes pass beneath the Gatineau Hydro Corridor and reconnect south of the Eglinton interchange.

As it crosses Eglinton, the expressway passes a business park to the west and the Concorde Place commercial and condominium development to the east. The expressway begins to descend back into the East Don Valley. It passes beneath Wynford Drive and two railways (the CPR Midtown line and the CNR/Richmond Hill GO line) before reaching Lawrence Avenue East, one of the few remaining cloverleaf interchanges in Ontario. This area, known as Milne Hollow, is partially forested, some of the land being conservation reserve.

Passing beneath Lawrence Avenue and back over the East Don River, the expressway begins climbing out of the valley once more. Residential sub-divisions are present along both sides of the road, isolated from the expressway by noise barriers, from north of Lawrence to Highway 401. It reaches the top of the valley and curves along a plateau before rising and passing over York Mills Road and Underpass Gate, right after the latter provincial control of the road begins. At a large interchange with Highway 401 (built and maintained by the province) the northbound lanes splits into two branches: two left lanes continuing north as Highway 404, and the three others exit to Highway 401 westbound and eastbound.

North of the interchange with Highway 401, a former segment of the parkway continues to an interchange with Sheppard Avenue (both that section and the Sheppard overpass were built by Metro), which has since been incorporated as part of Highway 404 in 1977 and has been widened in the early 2000s with a short collector-express system.

Traffic cameras
The entire length of the parkway uses the RESCU Traffic Management System, which was installed in 1994. Like the similar COMPASS system on provincial freeways, RESCU combines in-pavement sensors with traffic cameras and changeable message signs (6 fixed and 10 portable) to alert drivers of accidents, traffic conditions and upcoming closures. The system is used as a means of managing traffic flow along the parkway. The message signs also frequently display non-urgent messages to motorists, such as notices for future construction, safety messages and smog alerts.

The RESCU Traffic Cameras are located at regular intervals along the parkway. The cameras, which are operated by the City of Toronto, can be viewed on television and online. The cameras are located on poles and are fixed in direction. There are 16 camera locations on the parkway. Most have one camera for northbound and one for southbound traffic. RESCU operators monitor the cameras for emergency purposes; local radio and television media use the service for traffic reports.

Traffic congestion
The Don Valley Parkway, along with the Gardiner Expressway, is one of Toronto's busiest municipal routes. It is the sole north–south expressway into Toronto's downtown, a role it was not designed to support. The parkway was planned as one of a series of expressways to provide commuter routes to downtown from the expanding suburbs. Two other un-built expressways were planned: the Scarborough Expressway, expected to handle traffic between downtown and the eastern suburbs, and the Spadina Expressway, expected to serve traffic from the north-west. By the early 1980s, traffic volumes on the parkway exceeded capacity, and today, the parkway has significant traffic congestion on most days. During the morning commute, commuters fill the southbound lanes as far south as Bloor Street. In the afternoon/evening commute, commuters fill the northbound lanes from Bloor Street, and often the full length of the highway in event of a collision or other hazard. The daily congestion has earned the highway the quasi-affectionate nickname of the "Don Valley Parking Lot".

The section immediately south of Highway 401 is often congested at all hours. Traffic studies have attributed congestion in the southbound lanes to the number of lanes merging from Highways 401 and 404 into the parkway and the lane changing that results from merging traffic from Highway 401 clashing with exiting traffic to the nearby York Mills exit. Congestion in the northbound lanes is attributed to truck traffic coping with the steep grade of the valley, lane changing, and insufficient advanced signage for Highway 401. Most traffic in this section travels north on Highway 404, but only two of the five lanes lead to it.

History
The construction of the Don Valley Parkway was a major undertaking that changed much of the Don valley. While industrial areas existed both near the mouth of the Don River and the area of today's Leaside Bridge, several natural areas remained in those places where the steep sides of the valley had dissuaded large-scale urban development. The post-war growth period of Toronto provided an impetus to build a new automobile route into central Toronto, and the route through the valley was chosen to avoid expropriation of existing development and provide access for new development in the Metropolitan Toronto region. The construction of the six-lane highway modified the valley through the removal of hills, other earth works and the rerouting of the Don River. Since completion, the parkway has not been changed significantly, other than adding one partial interchange at Wynford Drive and updating its infrastructure to current standards.

Conditions before construction
The Don River valley, formed during the last ice age, has played an important role in the development of Toronto from its beginning as the Town of York. Using the power of the river, the first sawmill was erected at today's Todmorden Mills by 1795 and other industry was founded soon after, including a grist mill, paper mill and brewery (Helliwell or Don Brewery) by 1828. Railways were introduced into the valley after 1850 with the building of tracks into Toronto (Ontario, Simcoe and Huron Union Railroad had trackage at mouth of the Don after 1850 and Canadian Pacific Railway Toronto branch along the lower river after 1880s). By 1900, the Don River south of today's Bloor Street was straightened into a channel for boating purposes, with roadways and industry built on both banks. North of Bloor Street, the wide valley floor became dominated by industrial concerns of the Taylor family, including the Don Valley Brick Works. The area from the Forks of the Don and north along the river valleys had been lumbered and farmed, such as at Milne Hollow, but several natural areas remained by the 1950s. The forests of the Don valley had been where Canadian naturalist Ernest Thompson Seton spent much of his youth in the 1870s studying animal life.

The Don Valley Parkway was not the first highway planned through the valley. In the 1930s, a "speedway" through the lower valley was promoted as possible depression relief. Unlike today's parkway, this road would have curved northwest near the Don Valley Brick Works and connected to Mount Pleasant at Davisville. The city did not have the money and appealed to 'civic-minded citizens' to donate the land on which the highway would be built. None came forward. In 1939, city transportation planner Norman Wilson proposed a boulevard that would follow the valley into the northeast. On January 1, 1946, Toronto voters approved the building of a 'Don Valley Traffic Artery' following the same route as the "speedway" by a vote of 31,882 to 12,328. This was the same plebiscite where Toronto voters approved the construction of the Yonge segment of Line 1. The City then borrowed $1.5 million to finance the project. In 1949, the Official Plan of the City of Toronto updated the Don Valley Roadway plan to include two branches—one to the north-west which would eventually become the Crosstown Expressway proposal, and one to the north-east leading to O'Connor Drive. The original plan to connect to St. Clair remained. East York Township opposed construction of the north-east roadway. The City started the first section of this route from Eastern Avenue south to Keating Street in 1949, but had to suspend work in 1951 due to a lack of steel.

Recognizing the value of the natural spaces of the valley, conservationists such as Charles Sauriol founded the Don Valley Conservation Association, in 1948 to assist the provincial Don Valley Conservation Authority (DVCA) itself founded in 1946. The Association promoted conservation of the valley with rail tours and public events. In 1951, the Ontario Department of Planning and Development released its "Don Valley Conservation Report", which recommended the preservation of the valley, including an artificial reservoir where Lawrence Avenue crossed the Don River. It also proposed that the valley not be used for any new major transportation routes. The DVCA adopted the report and budgeted to buy lands in the valley, but the City of Toronto withheld funding to the DVCA for land purchases.

In April 1953, the Metropolitan Toronto (Metro) federation was approved and Fred Gardiner was named as its first chairman. Its mission from the start was to build the infrastructure needed to support the rapidly growing suburbs, whose governments could not afford the projects and often disagreed on joint projects. One of its first priorities was to build the Lakeshore Expressway, and its second road priority was an expressway through the Don River valley. Gardiner was a major proponent of building a highway through the valley, since his days in the 1940s with the Toronto and York Planning Board. At the time, engineers felt that building a six-lane roadway was unfeasible due to the two large hills and a narrow valley. Gardiner and T&Y Board (and later Metro Planning Board) chairman James Maher personally walked the route through the valley, determining the works that would be needed to put the highway through. "We'll move the railway over a piece. We'll tear down the hill. We'll shift the river over a piece, then we can have the highway through there." Gardiner toured New York City in June 1954 to study the city's expressways and municipal parking lots. Gardiner compared the proposed Don Valley expressway to the scenic Grand Central Parkway, and was quoted as claiming that valleys like the Don are not spoiled by arterial highways, but beautified by them. The first Metro staff survey and feasibility study of the parkway's route was approved in late 1953, before the Metro government itself came into being in 1954.

In October 1954, flooding caused by Hurricane Hazel caused the destruction of bridges and buildings in the valley. As a consequence of the destruction on the Don and other rivers, the provincial government of Ontario banned development on river floodplains. In 1957, the Metropolitan Toronto and Region Conservation Authority (MTRCA) was formed, merging all conservation authorities responsible for Toronto watersheds (including the DVCA), with greater powers to manage valley lands. The MTRCA began expropriating privately owned land in the valley for flood control, often creating or conserving open space uses. Sauriol, who was by then an employee of the MTRCA, was one of the few to speak out against the parkway project. Sauriol's cottage at the Forks of the Don would be expropriated by Metro Toronto for the parkway, although much of his land is now part of the Charles Sauriol Conservation Reserve, which extends from the Forks of the Don, along the East Don to Milne Hollow at Lawrence Avenue, visible from the parkway. By contrast, Metro chairman Gardiner had an opposite opinion of the Don Valley and was quoted "I'll tell you what the Don Valley was. It was a place to murder little boys, that's what it was."

Construction
The design of the project was contracted to the engineering consortium of Fenco-Harris, which completed the plans in the fall of 1955. The project included extending Bayview Avenue south along the Lower Don valley, which replaced the 'north' arm of the previous Don Valley roadway project, and the realignment of Lawrence Avenue over the East Don River. The design for the section north of the Don River mouth incorporated the existing river-side Don Roadway on the east side of the River. The design also incorporated a section of the old Don Mills Road leading up from the River, north of Gerrard, to Broadview Avenue and Danforth Avenue into the highway as a northbound on-ramp from Danforth. The project was designed to carry 60,000 vehicles per day. Fenco-Harris designed the route to be "located on public lands as much as possible, thus minimizing the expropriation of private property. Greenbelt land has been used for right-of-way in preference to acreage which can be commercially developed." The route required the expropriation of less than 25 properties.

The first planned route of the parkway was to follow the lower Don Valley before turning north and continuing along the Don Mills Road right-of-way north to the Toronto Bypass (today's Highway 401). Edward P. Taylor, developer of the Don Mills subdivision, situated at Don Mills Road and Lawrence Avenue, protested the plan heavily and the path was rerouted along the CPR railway from Don Mills Road and Eglinton Avenue north-east to meet the Woodbine Avenue right-of-way at Lawrence Avenue, and proceeded north to the Toronto Bypass. To facilitate the Flemingdon Park development, located south-east of Don Mills Road and Eglinton, the entire planned route south of Lawrence to the present interchange at Don Mills Road was moved east to its current alignment.

The plan, estimated to cost C$28.674 million, was approved by Metro Council in early 1956. Formal approval to build came in 1958 and construction of the parkway began. A stumbling block to construction was resolved by a deal between Metro and the City of Toronto over City-owned parklands needed for the parkway. North of Bloor Street, 30 acres of City-owned land would be transferred to Metro and any lands not needed for the parkway would be developed as parks by Metro. South of Bloor Street, Metro agreed to replace any recreation facilities lost in Riverdale Park due to the parkway construction. The City had threatened to not allow construction through City-owned land.

The first section of the parkway, from Bloor Street to Eglinton Avenue, was opened on August 31, 1961, by Ontario Premier Leslie Frost and Metro chairman Gardiner, who presented Frost with a silver plate. It opened initially without an interchange at Don Mills Road and had its first traffic jam that day at the Eglinton Avenue exit. The interchange at Don Mills was approved by Metro council on November 2, 1964. Building the section within the valley required significant civil engineering, including the rerouting of 3.2 km of the Don River, installation of 1.6 km of reinforced retaining wall and the removal of two hills. Tumper's Hill, located near the Don Mills Road interchange, stood 36 m higher than it does today. Sugar Loaf Hill, shaped like a cone, which stood alone in the shadow of the Prince Edward Viaduct where Bayview Avenue passes today, was removed completely. The 1250000 m3 of earth was used as fill for the parkway and a total of 4600000 m3 of earth was excavated and moved.

Besides modification of the natural landscape, the route required relocation and demolition of utilities and residences. Metro relocated 1.2 km of CNR and CPR railway tracks in the section from Bloor Street to Chester Hill Road to make way for the parkway. The Todmorden sewage treatment plant, built in 1926, was also demolished. The route required the removal of five homes on Minton Place located above the valley to facilitate the cut of the valley hillside. Four were demolished and one moved to Scarborough.

Construction of the section from Eglinton Avenue to Lawrence Avenue began on July 1, 1961, and it was opened to traffic in the evening of October 30, 1963, without any ceremony. The segment connected to Woodbine Avenue north of Lawrence Avenue, cutting off access to Woodbine from Lawrence Avenue. Northbound parkway traffic could continue north on Woodbine Avenue, then a two-lane road, up to the interchange with Highway 401. The 2 km section cost $2.723 million to complete.

The third section to open was from Bloor Street to the Gardiner Expressway. This section involved the removal of CPR rail sidings on the eastern bank of the Don from Eastern Avenue north. Royal Drive, which was a two-way road that connected with Bloor Street between Broadview Avenue and the Viaduct was re-purposed into a one-way north-bound on-ramp. A pedestrian overpass bridge was constructed to connect the east and west sections of Riverdale Park. The section opened in conjunction with the section of the expressway from the parkway to York Street on November 6, 1964. It was opened ceremonially by Ontario Premier John Robarts.

By 1965, concurrent with the expansion of Highway 401 into a twelve lane collector-express system, Woodbine Avenue's existing interchange with Highway 401 was being replaced by a new freeway-to-freeway interchange (similar to a Parclo A4 but modified with grade separations for free flow of traffic) for the upcoming extension of the parkway. The final section of the parkway, from Lawrence Avenue to Sheppard Avenue was opened chaotically to traffic in the afternoon on November 17, 1966, but forced drivers to exit onto Highway 401; construction inspectors were not aware that the parkway was scheduled to open until they arrived on site that morning. The section north of Highway 401 remained unopened until March 1, 1967, due to ongoing construction of the Sheppard Avenue bridge. The final cost of the project was $40 million ($ in dollars).

After passing underneath the Sheppard bridge, the parkway temporarily narrowed to the two-lane Woodbine Avenue, although Metro had plans to extend the parkway all the way to Steeles Avenue by removing the remainder of Woodbine Avenue. From Steeles Avenue onward, the Department of Highways (DHO) would continue the parkway as a "new King's Highway".

Since completion
In 1965, Metro Toronto Chief Coroner Morton Shulman released a report criticizing the lack of safety in the design of the parkway. In the first five months of 1965, there were 136 accidents on the parkway, with four deaths and 86 injuries. Among the "death-dealing" deficiencies that had to be corrected were inadequate guardrails, exposed steep slopes and light standards that were exposed to collision from passing high-speed traffic. Call boxes with emergency telephones were installed on the parkway in 1966. The boxes, attached to street lighting on the right shoulder, provided a direct line for help from the Ontario Motor League, now part of the Canadian Automobile Association (CAA). Today, the RESCU Traffic Management System monitors the highway and can call for emergency help.

On April 18, 1969, the slope behind Davies Crescent (just west of Don Mills Road) gave way after heavy rain, covering the northbound lanes and part of the southbound lanes with up to 90 cm of mud. There were only minor injuries. The slope, which had had its trees removed for the building of the expressway, was covered with sod and stakes to hold the soil.

When the province decided that the new Highway 404 should start at Highway 401 instead of the Metro boundary, it took control of the existing parkway between Highway 401 and Sheppard Avenue, as well as rebuilding the remainder of Woodbine Avenue within Metro Toronto to a freeway. The Sheppard Avenue interchange with the parkway was originally a Parclo AB2, plus Fairview Mall Drive at the time ran only east-west directly north of the shopping centre and also had its own on/off-ramps from the southbound lanes of Highway 404. In the 1980s the province removed the separate sets of Fairview Mall Drive and Sheppard Avenue ramps in favour of an on/off-ramp that fed directly to the shopping centre and an extension of Fairview Mall Drive whose eastbound lanes run south to meet with Sheppard Avenue.

In the late 1980s, a new partial-access interchange was built at Wynford Drive to provide access between the parkway and the Concorde Place development. The new partial-access interchange was paid for by the developers. The ramp connecting Wynford with the northbound parkway required a tunnel under the Canadian Pacific Railway (CPR) Midtown railway lines. To avoid delaying trains on the vital freight line, a prefabricated concrete arch was jacked into the embankment, 2 ft at a time, over 12 days. This was the first North American use of such a technique.

From 1986 to 1988, the City studied traffic congestion in the 'Don Valley Corridor', an area from Leslie Street east to Victoria Park Avenue. To improve traffic in the area, the proposed solutions were extending Leslie Street south of Eglinton Avenue and south-west to Bayview Avenue; widening Don Mills Road; and expanding the parkway. Two proposals were put forward for approval: the Leslie Street extension and widening of Don Mills Road. Don Mills Road was widened from four to six lanes with the new lanes to be high occupancy/bus lanes. The Leslie Street extension was approved by East York and North York, but was abandoned by Metro Council in 1993, after the provincial government refused to subsidize its construction.

In 1989, a public meeting was held on the future of the Don River, which was widely known for its pollution, and the Don Valley, considered an "industrial wasteland" and which had seen its last industrial use (the Taylor, later Domtar, Paper Mill) close in 1982. The Toronto City Council formed the "Task Force to Bring Back the Don", an organization of volunteers to work on conservation efforts in the Don Valley. Since that time, the task force has planted some 40,000 trees in the valley, planted thousands of wildflowers and overseen the creation of wetlands along the river. Efforts continue to ameliorate the water quality of the river and improve the environment of the surrounding valley lands. These efforts can be seen in the "Crother's Woods" north of Bloor Street and the Chester Marsh just south of Bloor Street, alongside the parkway.

Located north of the Bayview/Bloor interchange, the Pottery Road underpass was rebuilt in 1994. It was over 30 years old and it required the replacement of columns and a restructuring of the deck. It was worn down due to the cumulative effect of heavy traffic and weather. The replacement necessitated the closure of several lanes of the parkway from April until the autumn that year.

In 2001, Toronto City Councillor Paul Sutherland proposed to add two toll lanes in each direction along the parkway, from Highway 401 to Eglinton Avenue. From Eglinton Avenue south, one lane in each direction would be added. The proposal was criticized by transportation experts such as Transport 2000 for encouraging driving to downtown. Sutherland estimated the cost of the proposal at $200 million.

On May 11, 2007, GO Transit announced a plan to put dedicated bus lanes on the centre median of the parkway, to allow its buses to bypass traffic congestion and promote buses as an alternative to automobiles. The $12 million plan would be paid for by GO. The plan would require testing of soil conditions and an environmental assessment. GO Transit was taken over by the provincial Metrolinx transit agency, and the plan did not appear in the 2008 "Big Move" Regional Transportation Plan of Metrolinx. A second proposal, to allow GO Transit buses to use the left shoulder to pass slow traffic was approved in June 2010 by Toronto City Council. The centre median shoulders, starting with the section between Lawrence Avenue and a point 458 m north of York Mills Road, are opened to GO Transit buses to pass other traffic, at no more than 20 km/h faster, when the other traffic is going at 60 km/h or less. These lanes opened to buses beginning September 7, 2010. City Council directed the General Manager of Transportation Services to report on the feasibility of future bus bypass lanes in the segments from Pottery Road to Don Mills Road and between Don Mills Road and Eglinton Avenue East.

On June 7, 2010, a section of the expressway was dedicated by former Toronto mayor David Miller as part of the Route of Heroes. Similar to the Highway of Heroes designation of part of Highway 401, the designation serves to honour fallen Canadian soldiers. The designation applies to the portion of the parkway between Highway 401 and Bloor Street by which repatriation processions travel when transporting the remains of Canadian soldiers from CFB Trenton to the Office of the Coroner in downtown Toronto (but since September 27, 2013 all future repatriation travels to the new Centre of Forensic Sciences at Keele Street near Wilson Avenue)

The lower section of the roadway from the Gardiner Expressway to south of Gerrard Street East has been flooded by overflowing water from the Don River on more than one occasion. This section of the Parkway was closed in 1986, in 2010 and twice in 2013 due to flooding. The elevation of the highway had been designed to 1955 estimates for maximum flood levels.

The Don Valley Parkway is closed annually on the first Sunday in June for the Ride for Heart.

Future

During the 2010 municipal election, mayoral candidate Sarah Thomson proposed a road toll for the Gardiner Expressway and Don Valley Parkway, drawing comments from critics and supporters across the city.

Two projects are underway that may change the parkway's southern end. Waterfront Toronto is conducting an environmental assessment to evaluate replacing, modifying or removing the Gardiner Expressway east of Jarvis Street. The parkway would then end at Lake Shore Boulevard. The City of Toronto eventually decided to keep the Gardiner–Don Valley Parkway connection, with revised ramps. A second proposal, known as the Don Mouth Naturalization and Port Lands Flood Protection project, seeks to recreate the natural mouth of the Don River into Toronto Harbour with the surrounding parkland. The project is managed by the Toronto and Region Conservation Authority and Waterfront Toronto. The ramps between the parkway and the Gardiner Expressway pass directly over the Don River channel.

A third project, the "Don River Valley Park" to link all of the open space from the Toronto Brick Works south to the harbour, has proposed changes that will impact the highway. The first is the replacement of the current Bayview–Bloor interchange roadways to free up green space. The second is the relocation of rail lines on the west bank of the Don River to the east bank. A third is a new land bridge over the highway joining the two sections of Riverdale Park.

In late 2016, the City of Toronto and mayor John Tory considered imposing a toll to use the highway, along with the Gardiner Expressway, to cover the maintenance costs of the highway and support public transit construction. However, the plan was rejected by the Ontario government.

In November 2023, the municipal and provincial governments announced a tentative deal which will see the Don Valley Parkway and the Gardiner Expressway uploaded to the province and maintained as provincial highways.

In popular culture
The music video for the song "Subdivisions" by Canadian rock group Rush features scenes of the DVP. The song "DVP" by punk rock group PUP is named after the Don Valley Parkway, and its lyrics include references to the parkway.

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Amcaja's cartoon entries are models of wit and clarity, with unusual preceptions and depth. Thank you. User:Wetman

 * Thanks for the compliment! I hope to make them even better once my Peace Corps service is up -- I don't have access to my library here in Cameroon. But I guess the entries are still coming out okay. Amcaja 09:54, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Beaky = Hitchcock?
I removed this addition from an anonymous contributor:

 * There were several rumours that Beaky`s unusual appearance was influenced by the popular horror film producer Alfred Hitchcock as, when viewed in profile, the bald head and backward crane of the neck were astonishingly similar to Hitchcock`s features. The studio executives rapidly debunked these rumours, with the press release including the now famous quote "He`s a buzzard, they all look like that."

I couldn't find anything to corroborate it with a Google search. Does anyone know of this rumor? Is there any truth to the paragraph? —Amcaja 02:29, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Killer Buzzard
The fact that Beaky is called Killer in his first cartoon does not mean that these are different characters. Warners cartoon characters frequently changed names in their early days as directors got a hold on them and defined their looks and personalities. Let's not split hares, er hairs here. -- Amcaja 06:18, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Further support or the fact that Killer Buzzard and Beaky Buzzard are the same character: IMDB, Beaky Buzzard fan page, and another, Dan Markstein's Toonopedia, TV.com, The Total Toon Tome, The Big Cartoon Database . . . You get the idea. In fact, a Google search for "killer buzzard" -wikipedia -wiki gets eight unique hits, none of which has anything to do with Looney Tunes; a Google search for "killer buzzard" bunny -wikipedia -wiki nets zero hits. A print source also asserts that they are the same character: Why I Wake Early: New Poems by Mary Oliver, These are the same character. — Amcaja 08:50, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I stated that Killler Buzzard is the prototype of Beaky Buzzard and Killer would later evolve into Beaky Buzzard not he is diffrent then Beaky Buzzard. Now do you understand.

Mrsanitazier 16:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, I am saying that he is not the prototype of Beaky Buzzard, he is Beaky Buzzard, but that the animators hadn't come up with his official name yet. I have also provided ample evidence to back up my claims. Sorry if there was any confusion. :) — Amcaja 22:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

re merge to List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters
Someone proposed this in via template in 2010, but it was never implemented or sufficiently discussed. Instead it was just deleted and made into a redirect to that article.

On the procedural front, it looks like User:Neelix placed a merge tag at the beginning of November 2010. The discussion was over at Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters. IMO that was pretty inconclusive, but anyway User:Lord Opeth redacted this article to be just a redirect. User:JaGa objected to this on the grounds that was a (de facto) deletion rather than a merge, but this didn't stick. (Don't know why, since at Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters I don't see where JaGa was convinced to stand down from his WP:BRD right/responsibility...There may have been a side conversation between Lord Opeth and JaGa regarding this -- at least I hope there was -- but I'm not inclined to go find it, and this is a reason that I wish that talk about articles mostly take place on the article talk page...). AFAIK there was no AfD discussion.

On the merits, no, it doesn't really make sense to merge this into List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters. There are a lot if these characters, and if articles the size of Beaky Buzzard were merged into that article it would be awfully long. (As it stands now, the article is just a bare list of (over 50) names, and if the article would stand out like a sore thumb if it was shoehorned into this bare list, even if was cut back quite a bit, which I'm not sure it should be. And if Willoughby the Dog, The Three Bears (Looney Tunes), Sylvester Junior, Spike the Bulldog and Chester the Terrier, Slowpoke Rodriguez, Ralph Phillips, Quick Brown Fox and Rapid Rabbit, Playboy Penguin, Piggy (Merrie Melodies), Pete Puma, Nasty Canasta, Merlin the Magic Mouse, Hector the Bulldog, Hatta Mari, Goopy Geer, Gabby Goat, Egghead, Jr. (Looney Tunes), The Crusher (Looney Tunes), Count Blood Count, Cool Cat, Conrad the Cat, Colonel Shuffle, Clyde Rabbit, Claude Cat, Charlie Dog, Cecil Turtle, Bunny and Claude, Blacque Jacque Shellacque, Beans (Looney Tunes), Beaky Buzzard, Babbit and Catstello, Melissa Duck, and Honey Bunny were all merged into that that list, as was suggested at Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters that would make for a very long article, as I said).

Beyond that, I don't see where Beaky Buzzard shouldn't have an article, or at least a fair amount of material in a larger article (if that's what people want). He's famous, which is not necessarily the same as being notable but it's a start. I mean, I've heard of him, and I live way out in the country. He's not important, but we have a lot articles on unimportant entities. It's something that reasonable people can discuss at AfD or something.

So since I think its fair to say that a proper merge would be impossible, I'm open to other solutions, until them I'm restoring the status quo ante. If you want to entirely delete the contents of an article, take it to WP:AFD please. Herostratus (talk) 22:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

At any rate, a better place to address this might (or might not, depending on how Beaky-Buzzard-specific you want to get) be the centralized discussion at Talk:List of Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies characters. Herostratus (talk) 04:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

 * The only thing I remember of these edits (which took place more than 5 years ago) is that the mergers were performed according to Notability. I do not find enough real world content, coverage by reliable secondary sources and impact in popular culture in any section of the article (and most likely in any other of the merged articles). But if real world stuff is added to improve the article, then that's great. -- LoЯd  ۞pεth  05:42, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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