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User talk:DHN

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Image archives
Hi, you seem to be a knowledgeable person about Wiki stuff that relates to Vietnam. Do you know any good online archives that house high resolution public domain images of Vietnamese history and culture? Looking for 2MB minimum, ideally 10-20MB or more in uncompressed .tif format. Thinking of potential material for featured picture candidacy, would be glad to restore if the technical specs are up to par. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 06:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Renaming
I have to "copy paste" because the article with the new name has already existed and redirected to the old one. Please show me how to delete the page then i'll move the article to it.

I think the article is still at its early age. So, be flexible to what we do. Mr Vinx (talk) 10:49, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet is attempting to have the Joseph Cao picture removed
Apparently, there is a sockpuppet that goes by the various names of Admitaside342 on Wikimedia Commons and Showwould40q on Wikipedia. In both places, Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons, Admitaside342 and his sockpuppet Showwould40q is arguing that there is an undefined copyright violation. Showwould40q attempted to begin a 3RR fight that I refused to participate in--even though he had already wrote me for the 3RR after merely placing the picture back in the article ONE. Both Admitaside342 and Showwould40q have ONLY edited three things in both of their entire editing careers with Wiki--Joseph Cao and Joseph Cao's picture. They both started their wiki careers in the last couple of days and they both seem to know how to complain to the Admin Notice Board and to have pictures taken down--specifically the Joseph Cao portrait that was specifically released by the Congressman's office. A Wikipedia admin has stated that he believes Showwould40q is a sockpuppet. I quote, "S's edit history is suspiciously short, presumably someone's sock." William M. Connolley (talk) 19:47, 2 February 2009 (UTC)No Violation Decision. As to the substance of the claim, the picture has been specifically released by the Congressman's office. There is paperwork on file with the Wikipedia Foundation to refute the sockpuppet's claim. I just wish that the sockpuppet would come forward and explain who he is.--InaMaka (talk) 02:22, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * You claimed that you have permission from Cao's office for the image that you uploaded. You should provide proof of that to prevent it being considered a copyright violation. DHN (talk) 02:41, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * As I stated above I have an e-mail directly from Congressman Cao's office. When I posted the picture I forwarded a copy of the e-mail directly to the Wikipedia Foundation, as the posting instructions indicate.  I still have that e-mail and the Wikipedia Foundation's response to my e-mail.  How can I provide you with a copy of these various e-mails?  And let me repeat that Showwould40q and Admitaside342 are sockpuppets of each other.--InaMaka (talk) 02:47, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Just to wrap up this discussion. The picture that placed in the article was completely legitimate.  Just trying to put these silly arguments in perspective.--InaMaka (talk) 23:45, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Please review:

Vietnam photos
I noticed that the original image on the Viet Wiki has been deleted, and I shamefully can't really read that much Vietnamese to be of much help. It looks like it was deleted on request of a non-member or something, and as the person who uploaded it to this side, and knowing more Vietnamese, maybe you're able to figure it out?

Also, somewhat unrelated, I was thinking of snapping some useful shots of the local Tet Festival tonight at Inala but ended up having camera problems. The usefulness of the camera's pretty dubious, since it's a bit old, but I'd take suggestions of something that may be considered useful, so I can try getting it tomorrow evening. I don't really know much about Tet and what's usually there, besides food, fireworks and lions, so I'd appreciate anything. - Zero1328 Talk? 14:11, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

 * I couldn't find that image on Commons, actually. Maybe I didn't put in the right word or something? I never actually of Tet Festivals that way; I thought it was a regular thing, since I grew up going to them every year. I should probably consult my mum on that.

 * I was only really thinking of generic things that could be found in a Tet Festival anywhere, instead of more unique things. Thanks for the suggestions; I'll try to keep an eye open for clear shots of the bamboo pole, and the various displays of the flag. There are already good pictures of those three foods, but I can probably get shots of something like nem nuong, bo la lot, nuoc mia and the juicing machine for it. - Zero1328 Talk? 22:37, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, if it's really in the public domain like you say it is, it's probably just better off at Commons and having it copied from there, instead. And I've never seen a reconstructed Vietnamese village before! That sounds really weird for me. There's a large Vietnamese/Chinese community here and I've honestly thought Tet Festivals were a regular occurrence, instead of being something to introduce our culture. I don't really see anything done here in that regard. Anyway, if I do end up taking shots I'll be sure to let you know, since you can contribute to the Viet Wiki too. - Zero1328 Talk? 23:22, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, I just came home and reviewed my photos, and realised that I actually did fairly terrible. It was only on a whim but I ended up trying to prep for the second day, but I still had camera problems. I ended up taking photos at 1024x768 and my (quality) batteries kept dying after 10-15 shots, without flash or the active display. I also forgot about personality rights and forgot to make it very clear that I intended to publish the photos. Except for maybe the battery problem, it's been an interesting experience, taking photos in this type of environment, so I'll probably try to learn more about my camera when I find the next interesting photo op. Out of the 102 photos, I think only 5 or so are usable, but I won't place them on Commons, since I could do better next year. Nonetheless, I'm still grateful for your tips. - Zero1328 Talk? 14:11, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Finally had a chance to do a lot of personal stuff, but only because I got ill and resting at home right now. Thanks for the suggestions again; I've been thinking that you might be doubting me or something, since I haven't shown anything, so I grabbed a sample and stuck it on megaupload:

My hands have been shaky lately, for some reason, and most of these photos were taken from inside the car, whilst driving. We've mostly been going around the areas close to the house. I stuck them on megaupload instead of commons because I've only glanced at them so far and I want to be personally sure of the licensing and blurring of the sensitive things like faces, and I can probably only do that when this is all done. - Zero1328 Talk? 14:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I forgot to describe each photo; here's a quick summary in order of the photo numbers:
 * 1) bamboo pole at Inala
 * 2) nem nuong at Inala, mum said that it's red food colouring in the nem mix, not like that in vietnam
 * 3) Entrance to Tet in INala, at night, the center banner in viet is actually all over the place in vietnam
 * 4) A performance in Inala Tet, too blurry
 * 5) This is taken over singapore
 * 6) Something at a quality vietnamese restaurant
 * 7) Interior of main saigon post office, has international help, money exchange, phones
 * 8) power lines, it's like this everywhere
 * 9) I think it's the emergency side to the hospital, I'll catch the name later
 * 10) roundabout in front of a shopping center, billboards in center
 * 11) one of many small streetpost signs
 * 12) balut with side dishes, I cracked one open and placed it on the tray, this needs cropping
 * 13) The ones with phone numbers are some sort of advertisement, I don't know what the center text says, I can't read it and didn't ask my mum

A quick file count says 244 photos in my camera so far, and I'll leave the settings as you see the vietnam photos as. I still need to further study my phone's abilities to take better photos. My sister also has a camera and I might use some of the ones she took, but I'd prefer to have her properly aware of the licensing available, which I also haven't properly studied. - Zero1328 Talk? 14:49, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

After you and YellowMonkey download it I'll probably delete it just in case, next time I'm free, or after a few days, since this isn't really ready for presentation. I have fruit in the fridge and some dried lychee thing, a bit like raisins, which i might take photos of if I grab a plate to properly present it. I've taken alot of street photos, since I've been trying to find a photo of the explicit danger involved, particularly one with a turning group overtaking someone going straight, or someone crossing a road. It's all from the car though, so there should be a slight window reflection, and right now I can't tak photos at night due to light blurs, I need to work that out. - Zero1328 Talk? 15:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I think that was taken from the car, actually. I guess I'll try to take some new pics of it. But what do you think of the photo quality/usability? Those were the non blurry ones; I tried to take multiples for redundancy when I could, so generally, out of the several hundred photos I'll take, I guess half would be usable while a quarter would be informative enough for inclusion. - Zero1328 Talk? 02:44, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Province and District
These don't need to be at the end of the names do they? eg Guangdong Province, California State etc, except for Quan 1, Saigon etc. I asked this at WT:VIET. They're everywhere here.  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 02:59, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Vietnamese wiki
Hi. Yes its doesn't happen all of the time as I've managed to retrieve some data from it but especially the last few days when I click the Vietnamese wiki link my whole Internet browser just freezes. It doesn't even work if I try to ctrl alt and delete, I have to end up rebooting my PC. What details would you like to know? Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:00, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I'm afraid I have no idea but the codes are. I['m using a Dell Dimension 3000 and I use Mozilla Firefox as far as I'm aware and am located in the Cardiff Wales area. The crash occurred on several different pages which I can't recall. Hope the problem diesn't persist as I want to get the communes of Vietnam up and running in the next few weeks. I could sure use some help though translating some articles in Category:Articles needing translation from Vietnamese Wikipedia. Hopefully I can obtain some reliable sources for population and area data on communes. I know it must exist as I've seen 2004 data on Vietnamese wiki (when I managed to get through) but can't find the government census details. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:04, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

I use XP. I've tried searching but nothing is showing up. I haven't a standard task bar as I've opted for this slim bar which maximises the extent of the page. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 19:16, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Request for photos
Hi DHN,

As far as I'm concerned, the image is already licensed under Creative Commons Attribute-Noncommercial-ShareAlike. I'm not really good at this Wikimedia Commons uploading procedure, so I'll look into uploading it into Wikimedia Commons when I have some time later in the week. yellowtailshark (talk) 09:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Joseph Dinh
Yes it is hopeless. Also can you help chip in with the districts of Vietnam translationg drive please?  YellowMonkey  ( click here to vote for world cycling's #1 model! ) 03:17, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Pringels000
I feel like you have a weird bias towards vietnamese people, i just get the feeling... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pringels000 (talk • contribs) 06:13, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

could you check this out?
It looks like this anon has placed several mistranslations in vietnamese food articles. Could you check their edits and fix them?

Sorry for not getting back to you on those photos; I have a lot but haven't gotten around to even touching them yet. - Zero1328 Talk? 04:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

 * So those translations to the banhs are correct? I only looked at them since my sister asked me to, since I'm more familiar with Wikipedia. Thanks for letting me know. - Zero1328 Talk? 10:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Bánh mì
Hi, can you help the anon at Talk:Bánh mì, and also at Talk:Bánh bò? Badagnani (talk) 06:59, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Banh it
Hi, can you tell which subtype of banh it this one is? It's not the "naked" kind and it wasn't wrapped in a ramie leaf (it was wrapped in what appeared to be a banana leaf, with a darker green leaf wrapping inside that was more like the bamboo leaf used to wrap Chinese zongzi. Badagnani (talk) 04:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that was quick. I was just going by the label (they're often wrong). This search does pull up a lot of the bright green pyramid dumplings, which my photo was. Badagnani (talk) 04:08, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

What can you glean from this article? Badagnani (talk) 04:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the photos you showed me, the one I had had a filling that was a very fine, soft-ish white paste made from sticky rice flour, filled with smashed mung beans, rather than whole sticky rice grains. Also, the inner leaf looked dark green and dull like the ones you showed me, but the outer leaf wrapping was very bright green, a banana leaf like in the above article's photo. Badagnani (talk) 04:11, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

It seems to be the same one I got here in Ohio. Perhaps makers in the U.S. are imitating the one you mention. There are other articles calling this bright green pyramid "banh it," such as this one. Badagnani (talk) 05:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

N & S
Can you find sources for:

 * Southerners more entrepreneurial
 * Southerners are shorter and darker (a stereotype some Northerners hold based on both climate differences and the idea that Southern Vietnamese, upon first settling in the southern regions, have mixed somewhat with the native Chams and Khmers)

I think there were a couple of other things that got lost in the shuffle as well.

Badagnani (talk) 23:09, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Bánh bò
There has been an editing dispute about what the name of these cakes mean. Can you offer an expert opinion that might help resolve it? Thanks. ChildofMidnight (talk) 19:26, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Com ruou
Hi, can you tell me if gạo rượu is another term for com ruou? I just found this term online referring to the Chinese jiuniang, which I just tasted for the first time yesterday and which appears to be almost exactly the same thing. Badagnani (talk) 15:45, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Here's the search:. Badagnani (talk) 18:34, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much; I've just created an article on Jiuniang, which is very similar to com ruou. Badagnani (talk) 18:47, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Misleading claim
I was going thorough an archives and came across an issue. I do not like how you handled it as feel your change did not address the issues I had raised and instead continued to introduce highly misleading claims in the article, that we not supported by the sources used. I have therefore modified the articles accordingly and further explained that here Talk:Cultural and political image of John McCain. Your comments are welcome. I understand given your background you may have your experience of the matter, but remember that we can only go by what the sources. The sources do not say that the majority of Vietnamese Americans were supportive of his use of the term gook, simply that they were generally supportive of McCain himself. This is quite a different thing and the two should not be conflated even if it is fine to mention both. As I've said, unless a poll was done on the specific issue, it seems unlikely anyone knows whether the majority of Vietnamese-Americans were supportive of his usage of the term. P.S. Just to be clear, I'm not saying that the majority of Vietnamese Americans were not supportive of McCain's usage of the term. I have no idea but would guess it's possible although would also guess a more subtle general opinion is possible e.g. are not necessarily offended by it but feel it would be best if he didn't use it even if they understand why he uses. Ultimately however, without reliable sources it's not something we should comment on (Nil Einne (talk) 21:30, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

Check these pictures
I took them as your suggestion but don't know where I can put them into.--AM (talk) 11:45, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

I am going to create a page named Propaganda in Vietnam. The pics you took are very useful. Best! --Trananh1980 (talk) 03:58, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Lien Thanh
Has this fellow Major Lien Thanh, the former head of police in Hue come round to your area to speak about his new book "Bien Dong Mien Trung" about the Buddhist crisis in 1966, the Tet Offensive and Hue Massacre in 1968 and the 1972 communist offensive? I presume he went around the US before Australia. Apparently 1000+ people turned up in Melbourne. About 300 people here came out of maybe 12,000 Viets in the city, although only about 1% were under 45. He made some quite sensational claims about Thich Tri Quang etc [which violated BLP so I won't repeat it here], and all these people he claimed to be communists. The crowd, as far as I can tell, was more like an organised Diemist demonstration. Actually more like any Asian country where teh govt cadres tell the villagers to applaud at the end. There were a stack of people who all started clapping and cheering in a raucous way each time he bagged Thich Tri Quang, and their way of doing it didn't appear surprised as though they were taking new info, it seemed feigned. Most of them were well known Catholic activists lol.  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 03:47, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Locking it  YellowMonkey  ( cricket photo poll! ) paid editing=POV 08:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

East Asian Calligraphy
User DHN, I'm currently engaged in a discussion with user Asoer on whether East Asian Calligraphy is "calligraphy" or not. You've contributed to discussions on East Asian Calligraphy before, so I wonder if you could have a look in.

Bathrobe (talk) 05:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Facebook in VN
Need some update in Facebook.--AM (talk) 12:36, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
 * http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8370762.stm
 * http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/21/Officials-Vietnam-not-blocking-Facebook/UPI-33831258824999/

 * OK, thank you.--AM (talk) 10:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Translantion
Grenouille vert (talk) 21:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed the title as your advice, thank you! Grenouille vert (talk) 22:14, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Re:Gratuitous use of Chinese in Vietnamese language
Actually, many Vietnamese-related articles are annotated with Chu Han in Chinese, English, Japanese, Korean and other Wikipedias regardless of whether the same Chu Han annotations are used in Vietnam Wikipedia or not. Besides, for readers who from East Asian Cultural Sphere or who are familiar with Chu Han, it will be a good help for them to understand the original meaning of the certain terms if Chu Han annotations were used. Moreover, Chu Han is still used in some special cases in Vietnam, such as traditional ceremonies, history studies, traditional literature or Han Nom studies. By the way, I insist that people should not forget their own history and cultures.-- 서공·Tây Cống·セイコゥ ? ★ 委ủy班ban復phục活hoạt漢hán喃nôm越việt南nam ★ 13:54, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:10000pt.jpg
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 * Kindly refrain from templating regular, valued, and productive contributors. If there is no rationale, add it rather than damaging our project by attempting to delete valuable images added in good faith and used according to our project's standards. Badagnani (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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 * Kindly refrain from templating regular, valued, and productive contributors. If there is no rationale, add it rather than damaging our project by attempting to delete valuable images added in good faith and used according to our project's standards. Badagnani (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

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Happy New Lunar Year
Chúc bạn năm mới an lành, an khang, và thịnh vượng.--AM (talk) 10:24, 13 February 2010 (UTC) Em chúc anh và gia đình một năm mới được nhiều sức khỏe, an lạc, và vạn sự như ý.  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars photo poll )  06:33, 15 February 2010 (UTC)

Re:JR
Thank for you help. But here in Vietnam, I could not access to most of Google books material and your suggested book is one of these blocked contents :(.--AM (talk) 00:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

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User:Michaelpkk
On a Han tu rampage  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  07:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Trường Sa, Khánh Hòa
Hello, I am an administrator of the Tagalog Wikipedia and can I ask for your help? I encountered an anonymous user who is attempting to create an article about Trường Sa but he/she is inserting it to the following pages: Kalayaan, Spratly Islands, and Palawan. The problem is, his/her contributions is incomprehensible probably created by Google Translate. This Vietnamese-language article does not have an English equivalent that is why I can't polish the translation. Can you help translate it to English so that I can also create a Tagalog translation? Thank you very much. --Bluemask (talk) 18:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Help for Translation
Hi ! We are looking for someone who could translate into Vietnamese (and upload on Vietnamese WP) a page re an artistic movement founded by the daughter of the poet Dylan Thomas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMMAGINE%26POESIA

Could you please help us or suggest what to do ? Thanks! --Aeron10 (talk) 16:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Diacritics in Vietnam-related articles
There is a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Vietnam that you may wish to to contribute to. Colonies Chris (talk) 09:07, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Hey, I've cleaned up the "In a nutshell" section in the diacritics discussion. When you get the chance, please indicate your support or opposition to each consensus point to allow us to determine which points have the most support. I've also added a note to the effect that, for now, these points do not constitute a formal proposal, but just indicate where we're at in our discussion. --dragfyre_ ʞןɐʇ c 14:29, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

pictures of Tinh Xa Trung Tam
Hi, can you ask someone in Vi.wiki to get someone for the GA if possible please? Thanks  YellowMonkey  ( vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll )  02:06, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Donna Nguyen
I removed the speedy delete template from this article as this is not really a vanity page. It concerns a Vietnamese royal. The article is also duly referenced. I hope you agree. JoJan (talk) 18:55, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Translating an article to Vietnamese
Hello, I wanted to ask you if you can help translating this article to English and Vietnamese: Viên Giác Pagode. This is the biggest German (and of the biggest ones in Europe) Vietnamese Buddhist temples. --Maturion (talk) 14:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

WT:VIET
Can you see the bit about VC Army news at the bottom?  YellowMonkey  ( new photo poll )  02:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

South China Sea
Hi, DHN. I added the Vietnamese name to infobox. Please add other names to infobox freely because I don't know other name like "Vietnamese in Quoc Ngu script", "Vietnamese Chu Nom" or "Vietnamese Han Tu". By the way, I recommend to move the infobox to the top of the article. Thank you. ――　Phoenix7777 (talk) 10:43, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Direct-controlled municipality
Hán tự is not used by vietnamese people anymore? Whatever, but I thought this is a concept in the Sinosphere, so I add Hán tự.--WWbread （Open Your Mouth?） 05:24, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * OK.--WWbread （Open Your Mouth?） 10:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Please help
Hi, how are you doing? I would like to ask you for help. My account has been locked for a month by sysop Dung005. The reason he did that, according to him, is that I reverted his warning more than 3 times. And I actually did that. However, the reason I did that is because he, I strongly believe, issued an illigimate warning. I ll go into more detail. At first, we talked about the reason and the way he locked a new user who just made an edit for the first time in the article Nhan Quyen tai Vietnam. I argued with him about the ligitimacy and the process by which he did that. (You can read our discussion on the page Tin nhan cho bao quan vien in the section called Ve viec cam thanh vien Modesldale-and don't forget to look at the history page.) While discussing, he used insulting words to me, resulting in my deleting his insulting words (i used ). That's the reason he issued the first warning. I didn't accept that. And I reverted it. To conclude, please look for the way Sysop Dung005 locked the new user, and the way he issued various warnings to me. I believe that all of what he did is illegitimate and shows signs of abusing the sysop tools. While waiting for the expiry of the locking, I will be active in English. I use a permanent IP address, so i have no way to give any feedback on my Vietnamese page. Thank you.--Trananh1980 (talk) 03:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm going to try to look through the relevant comments this weekend. DHN (talk) 05:20, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
 * By now, I hope you have finished reading the discussions between me and user dung005. If you do not agree with me on something, just make it clear to me. I ll understand. Thanks--Trananh1980 (talk) 22:17, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, it's been a hectic week and I haven't had time to do anything. As soon as I find some free time I'll take a look. DHN (talk) 23:28, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I cannot edit any page on vi.wiki. Anyway, this is a good time for me to calm down and refresh my mind. If you have spare time, I will appreciate your help. But if you don't, that's fine. I m okay. --Trananh1980 (talk) 02:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping. However, don't you think user Dung005 has to take responsibility for issuing illigitimate warnings? How would you deal with that? He thought I could not delete his discussion for his rudeness?--Trananh1980 (talk) 02:38, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I checked the wikipedia and there is nothing preventing you to delete comments on your talk page.  EBE123  talkContribs 20:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
 * According to User pages, users can't delete warnings issued by system operators. The reason I did that is because I believe the warning i received was illegitimate. I should have talked to other sysops, which I did not.--Trananh1980 (talk) 22:12, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Invitation to take part in a study
I am a Wikipedian, who is studying the phenomenon on Wikipedia. I need your help to conduct my research on about understanding "Motivation of Wikipedia contributors." I would like to invite you to Main Study. Please give me your valuable time, which estimates about 20 minutes. I chose you as a English Wikipedia user who made edits recently through the RecentChange page. Refer to the first page in the online survey form for more information on the study and me.cooldenny (talk) 01:24, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Giup xóa lịch sử trang thành viên
Phiền anh xóa giúp tôi lịch sử trang cá nhân của tôi bên vi. và đổi tên của tôi thành TDA? Tôi không muốn nhờ anh bên vi. vì không muốn các thành viên khác để ý. Có lẽ có rất nhiều thành viên đang theo dõi hoạt động sửa đổi của tôi. Cảm ơn anh--Trananh1980 (talk) 02:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Tôi muốn lưu sửa đổi. Đổi tên là muốn tránh người mới tò mò vì những thảo luận cũ, nhưng vẫn giúp người cũ đã từng cùng làm việc hiểu ý nhau. Xóa lịch sử trang thành viên cũng là ngăn sự tò mò quá khích của một số người. Nếu không vi phạm quy định gì của wiki thì nhờ anh giúp. Còn nếu vi phạm thì thôi. Cũng không sao. --Trananh1980 (talk) 05:17, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:10000pt.jpg
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Help with source in Vietnamese?
Hi! I've been helping with the FAC for S&M (song) and found a source about what countries the song was banned in, but it's in Vietnamese... I did Google Translate, but just wanted to confirm that the machine translation was accurate. Based on the source would it be fair to say the following? "The video was banned in eleven countries, including China, Malaysia, and Indonesia." And for the source I intended to do: (Machine translation via Google.) Thoughts? Calliopejen1 (talk) 02:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Chinese Characters
Okay, no more Chu Nom from now on. Calvin Marquess (talk) 00:24, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Hi DHN, Calvin Marquess keep changing his accounts (Earth Wikipedia; Heavenly Dragon) to add Han Tu to Vietnam-related articles. I have removed some of them before and he now re-added them. I think it isn't legal. Can you do something, as an experienced editor?--AM (talk) 18:46, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

South Vietnam/North Vietnam
There has been persistent edit warring on these articles recently. See this post on my talk for details. Kauffner (talk) 16:53, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Woody Island, Sth China Sea listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Woody Island, Sth China Sea. Since you had some involvement with the Woody Island, Sth China Sea redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). – hysteria18 (talk) 17:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Hán-nôm
Are you sure that Hán tự and chữ nôm are not being used in Việt Nam anymore? 梁棚元 (talk) 17:28, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Parkson is not a Vietnamese company. I can show you plenty of pictures of Chinese writing in the US, does that mean that Chinese is used in the US? DHN (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
 * I tagged these for speedy delete but was denied, you can help me to give better properly reason: 阮富仲, 藍長, 阮晉勇, 阮明哲. All of these were created by a suspected sockpuppet. ༆ (talk) 21:50, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Beside that reason, you already know the one particular reason to delete. Those are irrelevance since those characters had died out when those guys were born. Those are just simply the translation of their Latin-alphabet names and NOT their native names. ༆ (talk) 02:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, I agree with ༆, no need for Hán tự in modern bios, but do you mind me asking a question. what about giving the Hán tự for place names? Is there a guideline? I have no strong view. Thanks. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that what I would have thought. Take care. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:39, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

RfC on the spelling of Vietnamese names
RfC: Should the spelling of Vietnamese names follow the general usage of English-language reliable sources? Examples: Ngo Dinh Diem, Ho Chi Minh, and Saigon, or Ngô Đình Diệm, Hồ Chí Minh, and Sài Gòn. The RfC is here. Kauffner (talk) 14:54, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

Audio
Can you record the pronunciation of the word cà rốt please ? Fête —Preceding undated comment added 17:20, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I want that you record the pronunciation of cà rốt in Wikimedia Commons. Fête —Preceding undated comment added 17:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

audio
Can you record the pronunciation of the word cà rốt in Wikimedia Commons please ? Fête (talk) 16:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Re: Translation
Thanks for the reply, yes I'm looking for a professional translation. I've run it through Google Translate and you're right, I get the gist but it's pretty useless really. Regards, --Viennese Waltz 22:13, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

FYI
has been talking about a block you made at Vietnamese here. --Rschen7754 07:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Use of HTML/CSS for Stylistic Formatting
I'm a little bummed at your reversion of the infobox portraits of Vietnamese Americans. But since style is secondary to content, it's not too big a deal. Although, in order to be a more effective editor, I'm wondering if there were any guidelines that point to the use of HTML/CSS as something to avoid. The best I could find was WP:USE, which is neither a Wikipedia policy nor guideline, but rather a project goal, and their recommendation for HTML/CSS is to avoid its use (because it makes editing harder) unless it is absolutely necessary (as in to stylize things like notice boxes). yellowtailshark (talk) 07:27, 10 December 2012 (UTC)

Pham Duy
If you (1) make sure the article is updated, so all the verbs are in the past tense, and (2) make sure a few more comments related to reaction to his death are added, we should be able to get this article listed on Recent Deaths. μηδείς (talk) 20:11, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi DHN. It's a shame that more hadn't been done prior to this sad news. But thank you very much for picking it up. I had meant to start a stub for his father for some time. A request, would you mind seeing if there's any way the picture from vi:Phạm Duy Tốn could be uploaded to Commons? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:09, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I created his brother's bio stub, and supported as you said. But my attempt to upload the father's photo was derailed by my incompetence at wikimedia. Best regards. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:52, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid Phạm Duy Tốn's photo was deleted, I found the upload very difficult and evidently didn't fill out everything properly. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Article move request for Nan Yue to Nam Viet
Hi DHN, can you please move the article "Nan Yue" to Nam Viet? From my experience the name Nam Viet is a much more common name for the kingdom than the name "Nan Yue", so, changing the article's main title to "Nam Viet" would make this article more recognizable to fellow readers. The name "Nan Yue" also implies that this was a "Chinese" kingdom when it's not, as the Chinese (original Han, Mandarin-speaking) nation only spanned over current-day northern and central China at that time, what's now southern China had several indigenous kingdoms, including Nam Viet. As well, even though Nam Viet did have some ethnic Han Chinese immigrants living there and the kingdom was gradually "Sinocized" in culture, the people, the main language, and overall culture was still Yue/Viet. The western and southern Yue/Viet would (along with the Lac peoples) form today's Vietnamese people. Northern and eastern Yue/Viet will become assimilated and intermarry with Han Chinese to form today's Cantonese Han Chinese. Given that Nam Viet helped to give rise to an entire nation and people, the Vietnamese, rather than just form a small region of another (China), the article's main title should be changed to Nam Viet, given its cultural and historical importance to Vietnam. Just because Nam Viet was somewhat Sinocized throughout it's existance, not assimilated during its existence, it cannot be classified as a "Chinese" nation, as other countries in the Sinosphere (Vietnam, Korea) were also to a degree Sinocized themselves, yet with their independence, separate distinct culture, separate distinct language, separate distinct ethnicity, and separate distinct identity, they cannot be called a "Chinese" nation. Northern Vietnam and northern Korea, and Mongolia, were a part of the Chinese empire at some time in it's history, but they cannot be called a "Chinese" nation. As well, just because Han Chinese from the north immigrated to Nam Viet and settled there, just as how Han Chinese have immigrated to other nations like Vietnam, Thailand, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore (even forming the majority in Singapore), does it justify in calling all these countries "Chinese"? The name Nan Yue should stay, like in the first line in the first paragraph for example, but the main article's name and title should be changed to Nam Viet.

Brewing edit war on Spratly Islands dispute
Hi DHN, there's a brewing editwar on this Truong Sa article, where a user named "Freedom of Navigation" is deleting sourced material and denying the US' apparently indirect and implicit involvement in the dispute there, implicitly siding with VN and the Philippines, and is accusing me of having a vested interest in this, when i don't. Can you please look into it please? Thanks Nguyen1310 (talk) 04:25, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Help needed on Flag of Vietnam
Hi DHN. Can you help improving the article Flag of Vietnam? Besides bad organization and lack of reliable references, an important issue is that a user insists on adding Chinese flags as "influences" of the Vietnamese flag. I tried to |discuss with him but it seems to be fruitless. I saw that the same problem existed on the Vietnamese version and was sorted out, so maybe you can help?Thachx (talk) 14:30, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thachx is has been editing for only a couple of weeks, focused almost entirely on this image. Yet he is well-versed in Wiki-lawyering and who to contact, so he is obviously not a new editor. The problem is mainly some IPs that he claims not to be affiliated with. Who ever heard of demanding references to show that an image is relevant? I have requested semi-protection. Kauffner (talk) 23:26, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Han-Viet
You can look at Hán Việt Từ Điển. Put in a Chinese character, and it gives you a transliteration into Vietnamese. The character dictionaries typically abbreviate Han-Viet as "Hv.", which is always followed by a transliteration. Here is one that's online. What the "synthesis"? That this system of transliteration is notable enough to write an article about? Or that it is called "Han-Viet"? Kauffner (talk) 12:58, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

DYK for My Best Gay Friends
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:03, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring discussion
FYI Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Logical Cowboy (talk) 15:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Talk:Nguyen
Hi DHN, I know you are not keen on this subject, but where do you stand now? Are you in favour of restoring Kauffner's 1400 undiscussed page moves? In ictu oculi (talk) 05:09, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, okay thanks, I think then I mistook your completely understandable realism for opposition to Vietnamese and I apologise for doing so. I would agree there seems to be a double standard in this matter with regards to Eastern European names however there have recently been Eastern (and Western) European editors noting this point, and Japanese Chinese American and Australian too. I think if we re-ran the RfC now it would be 23:5 in favour of Vietnamese names not 23:16. Note that User:Colonies Chris has - with a series of 5 RMs - restored most of the undiscussed moved geo articles.
 * As regards inviting back and retaining Vietnamese editors, well that's a longer term problem. Wikipedia is losing editors all over the project, not just WP Vietnam. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:44, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

HCPUNXKID edit-warring and 3RR violation on South Vietnam...
Hi DHN, could you please intervene on the South Vietnam article and page-protect the article? The user HCPUNXKID changed the status of VNCH in the article's infobox from "Sovereign republic" to "Client state of the United States" 3 times now, and reverted 4 edits on this. HCPUNXKID's edit is controversial and is disputed even in academic circles, and it is clearly POV. Sources he used includes one from the Peace Pledge Union (which clearly lacks a neutral POV and even got the date for the Fall of Saigon wrong), another from a poetry site (also lacking NPOV), and one from a bookstore review... In the past, there were edit wars over the U.S. client state status, at least 2 i can recall since 2010, and it was consistently rejected. Nguyen1310 (talk) 19:13, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Enquiry regarding about sources
Hi, user MiG29VN keeps on removing sources that links to WGBH (PBS Boston) and SBTN video interviews, which are credible references, simply because they were uploaded on Youtube. I would like to ask, can video interviews/documentaries produced by a credible source (like popular news outlets, eg those listed above), that are simply uploaded on Youtube or a popular video site, be used as references? MiGVN has also made the ridiculous declaration that "In wikipedia's law, and we agreed History.net and xxx.edu are the reliable sources". An online criminal can create a malware site, or any fake "educational" institution can create an .edu website, and those will still be considered "reliable sources"??

Peter Nguyen Van Hung
I Love He! --Mario0214 (talk) 06:31, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Johnny Nguyen (footballer)

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Revert on Carlos Hathcock article.
re: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Carlos_Hathcock&oldid=639965371&diff=prev

Someone (you?) added a "who?" tag, seeking the name of the NVA General that Hathcock assassinated. I removed the tag, for the name has not been published in any sources, reliable or otherwise. You might as well go and add the same tag to the articles on Jack the Ripper or the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. No one knows. The tag is silly and pointless, so remove it. - the WOLF  child  19:41, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Article upgrade assistance request (Pre-translation stage)
Seasons Greetings,

This is in reference to a relatively new umbrella article on en-wikipedia named Ceremonial pole. Ceremonial pole is a human tradition since ancient times; either existed in past at some point of time, or still exists in some cultures across global continents from north to south & from east to west. Ceremonial poles are used to symbolize a variety of concepts in several different world cultures.

Through article Ceremonial pole we intend to take encyclopedic note of cultural aspects and festive celebrations around Ceremonial pole as an umbrella article and want to have historical, mythological, anthropological aspects, reverence or worships wherever concerned as a small part.

While Ceremonial poles have a long past and strong presence but usually less discussed subject. Even before we seek translation of this article in global languages, we need to have more encyclopedic information/input about Ceremonial poles from all global cultures and languages. And we seek your assistance in the same.

Since other contributors to the article are insisting for reliable sources and Standard native english; If your contributions get deleted (for some reason like linguistics or may be your information is reliable but unfortunately dosent match expectations of other editors) , please do list the same on Talk:Ceremonial pole page so that other wikipedians may help improve by interlanguage collaborations, and/or some other language wikipedias may be interested in giving more importance to reliablity of information over other factors on their respective wikipedia.

This particular request is being made to you since your user name is listed in Translators available list.

Thanking you with warm regards Mahitgar (talk) 06:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi
Happy 2016. If you're around or know of other WP:VN editors around can you take a look at Vietnamese mythology and see if recent large deletions are justified. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Peter Nguyen Van Hung

 * Welcome to the TIP Report Heroes Network - U.S. Department of State Trafficking in Persons Report Heroes

--Jack Chen Wan Xiong (talk) 18:03, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

HCM
Xin chào DHN,

I´m not experienced in the English or Vietnamese Wikipedia but I noticed by chance that you are. Maybe you can have a look to my first English article about a new guilding in HCM: Deutsches Haus Ho Chi Minh Stadt.

I´m contributioning mostly in the German Wikipedia.

Thank you and kind regards--F.Blaubiget (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

You are invited to join the WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge
  The Asian 10,000 Challenge Improve/create any article on anywhere in Asia whenever you feel like it and list it!...

Hathcock
16 years, 13,000 edits, a clearly worded request at the top of my page (that is fairly standard practice across the project), plus you claim to be a bureaucrat and an admin on vi.WP, with whatever numbers of years and edits there, so... really? With all that experience, do you not know by now that article content issues are discussed on the article talk page? In the future, if have a question or comment regarding an article, then please post it on the article talk page, not mine. Thank you - wolf  07:39, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 * You didn't bother to read the article's talk page when you made that change. If you already did that, you would have noticed why it was worded that way, and I wouldn't have needed to nicely remind you of that. DHN (talk) 07:53, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Translation help?
I found you from the list of translators, so I hope you can help me. I am working on Draft:Longan witches broom-associated virus and I have used google translate to get me most of the way, but it seems that the Vietnamese terms for the disease do not use the word 'witch'. The terms I found are chổi rồng trên nhãn, chổi rồng hại nhãn, bệnh chùn ngọn, bệnh chổi sể, and bệnh hủi nhãn. Google lends me to believe that these terms refer to dragons and not witches, which seems plausible given the idiom 'witches broom' doesn't necessarily mean anything in Vietnam. I am hoping you can provide a good literal translation, and hopefully I can use it as a DYK hook for halloween or something. Let me know if I'm close or not. Thanks! --Nessie (talk) 02:57, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

 * It's plausible. Chổi rồng literally means "dragon's broom" and it seems to be only used in the context of this disease. DHN (talk) 19:41, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Ho Chi Minh Monument
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Gin people don't speak Vietnamese?? Vietnamese don't use Chu Nom??
Hello DHK You reverted with reason Gin people do not speak Vietnamese. Why in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-hEWdMh5G0 Gin people can talk with the Vietnamese interviewer from VTV. A Gin kid can sing a Vietnamese traditional song? As you said, that's mean Vietnamese interviewer speak Cantonese? You base the source from the book of non-Vietnamese author, are you sure that author understand Vietnamese?? And you said that Vietnamese not written in chu Nom. Do you know thu phap?? And you said chu Nom is Chinese-derived? That's mean chu Nom is Chinese language??

(Sorry for my bad English)

07 September 2020
 * The news segment is sensationalistic since they want to promote the language. Even the name of the segment is sensationalistic ("Days of returning to our beloved roots").  If you notice, the people speaking Vietnamese are old.  The Vietnamese teachers are actually trained in Vietnam, and as you see in the classroom they actually teach quốc ngữ and not chu Nom.  If you read the Chinese characters on the whiteboard, they're actually Chinese and not chu Nom.  For example, màu đỏ (red) and màu vàng (yellow) have the corresponding characters 红色 (hồng sắc) and 黄色 (hoàng sắc), which are decidedly not Vietnamese. DHN (talk) 07:44, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Users with indefinitely protected user talk pages". Thank you. Jackmcbarn (talk) 19:19, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Áo dài là của Việt Nam, ko phải của tàu. Aodai is Vietnamese, not China.
Áo dài là trang phục truyền thống của nước Việt Nam chứ đeo phải của china! Stop adding hoaxes! Trương guy (talk) 06:42, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Revisionist history

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/983220580

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1000810546

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1017867150

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1007023450

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1025106370
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1025133128 (this was actually fixed).

 * Suspiciously similar.

 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/60.224.19.131

This revisionist history you pointed out at the "Kingdom of Vietnam" article isn't an isolated incident, it is systemic and has been going on for quite some time. Unfortunately nobody has actually stood up to it except for "" in that one edit. But this user really doesn't seem to like the mainstream historiography, please see my comments in the AfD for more details. It really isn't an isolated case. --Donald Trung (talk) 19:36, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Feedback requested
Not sure if you have the time, but could you take a look at "Talk:Đại Việt" and its corresponding article? Is this something that has now become commonplace in Vietnamese historiography to group all pre-Nguyễn periods together as the "Kingdom of Đại-Việt"?

BTW, maybe you should set up an archive for your talk page as it's really long. --Donald Trung (talk) 12:21, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for flagging. I'm currently quite busy but I'll take a look when I get a chance. DHN (talk) 01:36, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

Translation help?
I usually work in French->English translation and keep encountering a series of articles about  the Franco-Prussian War whose only other versions are in Vietnamese. Somebody ran them through Google Translate and the results are of course uneven. I am working with that editor since he is apparently interested in the topic, but wondered if you might be interested/available to clarify some of the more mysterious passages? If your interest is limited I could make the questions really specific, as I suspect the problem in places is a word-for-word translation of a sentence that *does* parse in Vietnamese. Please let me know at your convenient Elinruby (talk) 05:39, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 * Are you saying that the Vietnamese-language articles have been machine-translated from English or the other way around? We have some issues with those at the Vietnamese Wikipedia. If it's the other way around, let me know which passages are machine-translated and I might be able to help. DHN (talk) 06:32, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 * They’ve been machine translated from Vietnamese. I understand the issue, as these are an example of why. I myself spend a lot of time cleaning up machine-translation from French to English. However, they do represent information about given battles that is not elsewhere in Wikipedia, and while I don’t see an urgent need to expand our coverage of the Franco-Prussian War — the fr and de Wikipedias haven’t done so — it *was* however the reason for the abolition of the Bourbon Empire, and the Third Republic, so if we can get the articles to a certain standard, I am in favor of keeping them. Let me know how you would like to proceed. If certain problems are also in the original, that would tell us something. If names have been translated, you can let us know. Ideally you would proofread them against the originals, but that may be more than you are willing to do. But while there are several, each of them is fairly short, and since their importance is mainly to 19th century European history, as far as I am concerned at least, there is no urgency and this could be a long-term side project, pro bono, as it were. WP:PNT pages don’t usually get deleted once we list them, unless we do it ourselves. On the other hand, if your interest is limited, I could ask you specific questions when I get stuck. So far I have been identifying and wikilinking names of people, places and military units. I do speak French very well, and can read German a little, took it in school. Let me know. If you want to look at one, am currently working on Battle of Buchy and have linked some of the references, which look quite good. Battle of Gray is much worse, but I have brought it to the attention of the original translator, and it seems only fair that he improve it as much as he can before somebody else goes to heroic measures over it. If you like, I can tag you on others as I encounter them. He said he did these for the redlinks in the nav box for the war. Elinruby (talk) 18:35, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 * PS: I am l learning from this exercise that this war was also pivotal in the creation of the German Empire Elinruby (talk) 18:37, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I have limited interest in this topic but feel free to ask me any specific question regarding translation. Typically names from French or German will be left as-is in Vietnamese, so if you see a difference it might just be a transcription error. DHN (talk) 06:48, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Two specific translation questions
1) could the place name “Zalmay” become “Talmay” in Vietnamese somehow? I am trying to determine if this is the same village, and the change doesn’t seem like something that came from French. Neither one has a wiki page, as best I can tell.

2) In the Vietnamese text “Trong cuộc giao chiến ở Essertenne và Talmay gần Gray, lữ đoàn của Hoàng thân Wilhelm xứ Baden thuộc Quân đoàn số 14 thuộc quân đội Đức - Phổ dưới quyền chỉ huy của tướng Karl August Werder của Phổ đã nhanh chóng đánh bại một lực lượng Garde Mobile được phái đến phòng ngự suối Vingeanne thuộc Binh đoàn Côte d'Or của quân đội Pháp dưới sự chỉ huy của Đại tá Laval, buộc đạo quân Pháp này phải rút chạy tiến hành khỏi Gray” google is doing something ambiguous with the relationship between the Garde mobile and the Côte d’Or army, can you clarify perhaps? Côte d’Or is the region where the battle took place, so I think that army is a local regiment, but it isn’t clear what they are doing in that sentence. The Garde mobile was holding a line on the banks of the Vingeanne, right?

thanks for any brainpower you apply to these questions ; ) Elinruby (talk) 04:37, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This passage seems to be partly sourced from here (p. 483), so 1) Talmay seems to be the correct name; and 2) you can see the relationship between the Garde mobile and the Côte d’Or army described in the book (the Garde mobile was designated the Armée de la Côte d’Or). DHN (talk) 06:53, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

 * aha. I hate it when they call the same thing by different names. Thank you much. I will definitely check that out Elinruby (talk) 06:57, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Talmay does have a Wikipedia article. DHN (talk) 07:02, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

 * was just looking at that. Senior moment? Anyway, thanks, I am convinced now that it should be Talmay, going in to fix that now Elinruby (talk) 07:22, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Nguyen Kim Hong→Nguyen Kim Hong
See: --Ju Gau-jeng (talk) 20:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ja:グエン・キム・ホン
 * vi:Nguyễn Kim Hồng (đạo diễn)
 * zh:阮金紅 (導演)
 * See Vietnamese people in Taiwan, OK? --Ju Gau-jeng (talk) 18:17, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Vietnamese in Malaysia→Vietnamese people in Malaysia
OK! --Ju Gau-jeng (talk) 19:16, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Already done. DHN (talk) 20:33, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

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Tôn Thất An
See: OK? --Chiang Wan-an (talk) 20:37, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
 * ja:トン・タット・アン
 * vi:Tôn Thất An
 * Seems like a notable person. You can write a draft and I can help edit. DHN (talk) 20:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
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Boat People (film)
I noticed that you removed the paragraph. You may think it's irrelevant. Actually, The book Women Film Directors: An International Bio-critical Dictionary mentions that the movie was banned, and probably unbanned in 2008 (with a DVD importation from Hong Kong). That's why I added that release content. Though, I don't intend to restore the revising, just to remind that the film used to be banned in China.-- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 06:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

 * @Beta Lohman The assertion that the film was "banned" in China seems illogical, since it was filmed in Hainan with the permission of the PRC government (who reviewed the script and requested that the director change some details). It might not have been screened in China but I don't see any logical reason why the PRC government would actively oppose it given its apparent subject matter. Hui was pretty optimistic that "it will be distributed in Mainland China as well as in the usual movie markets for Hong Kong films.". In fact, much of the controversies about the film is about whether it's PRC propaganda.  Perhaps they confused the PRC with the ROC government, which did in fact ban it. In any case, I think a DVD release in 2008, more than 25 years after it was in theaters, is hardly worth mentioning. DHN (talk) 07:20, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

 * Thanks for response. I would like to respond to one more thing. For example, Summer Palace was not submitted to the State Administration of Radio, Film, and Television (SARFT) for review in the beginning, and then participated in a French film festival, and is still banned in China. The Chinese government can ban a film for any reason, and political issues are illogical in the first place.
 * As for whether Boat People was banned in the 1980s or not. I don't intend to pursue this issue, because the book says it was banned, so it's a banned (and unbanned) movie.-- Beta Lohman ※ Office box 07:55, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you!
Just dropping by to say that I just read the article about the Vietnamese language in the United States and that I loved it. I found the section about some Vietnamese Americans' distrust of or distaste for some words in the Vietnamese language for their communist connotation especially interesting. I am a white American, and Vietnamese American culture has always been a minor but intriguing influence in my life. But aside aside from having a few Vietnamese classmates growing up and eating at Vietnamese restaurants once in a while, I have never had much contact with that culture or language. Thank you for enlightening me a little, and thank you for all your hard work. :) Bobnorwal (talk) 14:22, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

 * Thanks for reading! I hope it was informative. I've got to thank for the tidbits that you found interesting in the article, as he added them after I wrote the original article in the Vietnamese Wikipedia. DHN (talk) 14:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Ah, well, thanks to Mxn as well! :) Bobnorwal (talk) 16:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

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Languages of the United States ranks Vietnamese as fifth. please, we already have enough articles that contradict each other. Great Mercian (talk) 01:32, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

The sources used by that article are already outdated and contradict its claim. The ranking depends on whether you consider French and French patois to be the same language. The source used here does. DHN (talk) 04:03, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Used where? Great Mercian (talk) 19:08, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Also to add on, the article above doesn't even show French in the top 10, so it's an irrelevant topic. Great Mercian (talk) 19:09, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

5* my mistake. Great Mercian (talk) 19:10, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

 * It's Ref #9 in Languages of the United States. In Vietnamese language in the United States I used this source. DHN (talk) 20:09, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Hi-Tek incident and Vietnamese-language sourcing
Wow, it's been a while - time really flies. If you have time, I would like to discuss the inclusion of Vietnamese-language sourcing in the article, partially in consideration of a FAC run. I think I have been able to consider and incorporate most English-language material about the incident, but there are few Vietnamese-language references (both from US publications covering the event, often anti-Trường, and Vietnamese state media which seems to have taken him up as an "overseas patriot" through the years - based on the original article on viwiki that you created) currently used. Do you think this significantly impacts the article, or is the current use of sourcing enough? Thanks. MSG17 (talk) 22:46, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

 * @MSG17 Hi, thanks again for creating the English version of the article! I was mostly using the Vietnamese-language sources for the exact quotes (instead of back-translating from English-language sources). However, I didn't have much luck finding contemporary sources online - most Vietnamese-language sources I found were written years after the fact, and some of those sources published in Vietnam got some facts wrong to fit their narrative. I wouldn't use them as factual sources, but more of "reaction" sources. I think the inclusion of the BBC source is enough, or if you'd like you can add Vietnamese government views of the events years later but I don't consider it essential. There's a couple of contemporary RFA articles I found that you might want to consider incorporating, but again only for the "reactions" section. DHN (talk) 23:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was definitely thinking about reactions/perspectives. I had earlier hoped to include something about the Vietnamese government's perspective, but since I couldn't find a secondary source I am hesitant to cobble together the "primary sources" (state media) in what would seem to be original research (especially if they "modified the facts"). I also don't think the RFA sources give a lot of relevant info that isn't already in English sources (esp. Ha 2002). This article from Saigon Nhỏ seems interesting with regards to the developments with Trường and the community, but I don't know how reliable or well-known this publication is (I didn't link the first part as it seems to mostly be a summary of the event which I suspect was strongly influenced by the Wiki articles). MSG17 (talk) 01:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @MSG17 Yeah, I found that article recently, and a lot of text from it (the description of the events) was taken verbatim from vi.wiki. However, they did have some new information, particularly some behind-the-scenes perspective of someone directly involved (Van Tran). DHN (talk) 01:43, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @MSG17 FWIW, this article from Nhan Dan also liberally lifted passages from the vi.wiki article (the negative mainstream American reaction). I also found this contemporary article that will give you a view of the events from the local Vietnamese-American perspective. DHN (talk) 02:19, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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Harley Street

Harley Street is a street in Marylebone, Central London, named after Edward Harley, 2nd Earl of Oxford and Earl Mortimer. Since the 19th century it has housed a large number of private specialists in medicine and surgery.

Overview
Since the 19th century, the number of doctors, hospitals, and medical organisations in and around Harley Street has greatly increased. Records show that there were around 20 doctors in 1860, 80 by 1900, and almost 200 by 1914. When the National Health Service was established in 1948, there were around 1,500. Today, there are more than 3,000 people employed in the Harley Street area, in clinics, medical and paramedical practices, and hospitals.

The nearest London Underground stations are Regent's Park, Great Portland Street and Oxford Circus.

Land ownership
Harley Street is part of the Howard de Walden Estate.

Notable occupants
Many famous people have lived or practised in Harley Street, including the Victorian Prime Minister William Ewart Gladstone, the artist J. M. W. Turner, and the speech therapist Lionel Logue. Queen's College, founded in 1848 and one of the oldest girls' schools in England, is situated on Harley Street.

 * Sir William Beechey (Portrait painter) lived at No.13.
 * George Frederick Bodley (Greek Revival Architect) lived at No.109 from 1862 to 1873. Blue Plaque.
 * Mary Everest Boole, self-taught mathematician, and widow of George Boole, lived at No.68 in 1865 following the death of her husband.
 * Wilkie Collins, author of The Woman in White and The Moonstone, lived at No. 12 (later renumbered No. 26) with Caroline Graves from 1860 to 1864.
 * Sir Grantly Dick-Read (Obstetrician) lived and had his practice at No.25. Green Plaque.
 * Sir Stewart Duke-Elder (Ophthalmologist) lived & worked at No.63. Blue Plaque.
 * Sir James Galloway (1862–1922), dermatologist, practised at No. 54
 * Harriet Harman MP KC, Labour politician, born at 108 Harley Street.
 * William Henry Giles Kingston, Victorian author of boys' adventure novels, was born on Harley Street, 28 February 1814.
 * John Langdon Down moved in 1881 with his medical practice from 47 Welbeck Street to 81 Harley Street.
 * Lionel Logue (Speech therapist), from Australia, had his practice at No.146. He helped King George VI overcome his stammer with lessons here. There is a Green Plaque.
 * Sir Charles Lyell (lawyer, author and geologist). Lived at No.11 (which is now No.73).
 * Sir Morell Mackenzie, the 'Father of British Laryngology' lived in 19, Harley Street till his death. Involved in the great controversy while treating the German Crown Prince Fredrick III, the Son-in-law of Her Majesty Queen Victoria for his laryngeal disease, allegedly cancer of the left vocal cord which led to the demise of the Emperor in 1888.
 * Stafford Northcote, 1st Earl of Iddesleigh (British Politician, Conservative Chancellor of the Exchequer) lived at No.86.
 * Allan Ramsay (Portrait painter) lived at No.67.
 * Sir Harold Ridley (Pioneering Ophthalmologist). Lived at No.53.
 * John St. John Long, a famous quack, practised in Harley Street from 1827 to 1834.
 * J. M. W. Turner (Landscape painter) lived at No.64 from 1799 to 1805.
 * Sir Arthur Wellesley, the future Duke of Wellington, had his first London residence in Harley Street.
 * Charles Wilson, 1st Baron Moran, who was Winston Churchill's personal physician, had a private practice at No. 29 during the 1920s and 1930s.
 * Isabel Thorne member of the Edinburgh Seven lived at 148, Harley Street, London.
 * Mary Scharlieb, Dame and pioneer woman doctor had a medical practice and lived at 149 Harley Street, London.

Fictional references
In Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility (1813), the Dashwood sisters, Lucy Steele, Mrs Jennings, Edward Ferrars, and others spend some of their free time there while in London.

In Elizabeth Gaskell's North and South (Gaskell novel) (1854-55), Margaret Hale lived with her aunt Mrs. Shaw and cousin Edith in a house on Harley Street for nine years, before she moved with her parents to the fictional northern town of Milton.

In Virginia Woolf's Mrs. Dalloway (1925), medical professional Sir William Bradshaw lives on Harley Street.

P.G. Wodehouse's Sir Roderick Glossop, the “nerve specialist", was said to maintain a practice on Harley Street.

Dr. Janet of Harley Street is a novel about a woman doctor published in 1894 by Dr. Arabella Kenealy.

In Agatha Christie’s The Secret of Chimneys (1925), Lord Caterham ruefully mentions that his doctor advised him to “avoid all worry. So easy for a man sitting in his consulting room in Harley Street to say that.” Earlier in the book, a surgeon in Harley Street is mentioned among names listed in a phone book. Agatha Christie's Death in the Clouds (1935), ‘’The Hollow’’ (1946), and And Then There Were None (1939) include characters who are Harley Street physicians. In Agatha Christie's Crooked House (1949), Edith de Haviland visits Harley Street.

In Henry James' "The Turn of the Screw" (1898), the wealthy uncle at the beginning of the work apparently has a house on Harley Street.

In the movie The Revenge of Frankenstein, Dr Victor Frankenstein aka Dr Franck after his brain transplant begins his medical practice on Harley Street W.

In John Banville's The Untouchable, Victor Maskell visits his doctor and is told "I should have thought you had died already, in a way." ... which is "not the kind of thing you expect to hear from a Harley Street consultant, is it."

In Eoin Colfer's novel Artemis Fowl and the Eternity Code, the title character rents a cryogenic pod from a facility off Harley Street.

In Downton Abbey (2011), a fictional obstetrician with a practice on Harley Street Sir Philip Tapsell is hired by Lord Grantham to deliver the baby of his daughter Lady Sybil. When another physician Dr. Clarkson notices signs of preeclampsia, Sir Tapsell and Lord Grantham ignore his warnings and suggestion to perform a Caesarean section. When Lady Sybil dies of eclampsia, Lady Grantham blames her husband for valuing Sir Philip Tapsell's reputation over Dr. Clarkson warnings stating, "And you believed him, when Dr. Clarkson knew Sybil's history and he did not. You believed Tapsell, because he's knighted and fashionable and has a practice in Harley Street. You let all that nonsense weight against saving our daughter's life!"

In Hilary Mantel's short story Harley Street (2014), from her bundle The Assassination of Margaret Thatcher, features the street and its many doctors offering services to rich clientele, to the backdrop of a vampire story. Each of the doctors have been given funny names to represent their expertise. "When the doctors scuffed in and out, I could hear their Lobbs scraping the carpets. I could hear Gland's wheezing and puffing; the snarls of her patients, and the sobs of the patients of Smear, as he pushed in with his cold speculum, while Mrs Bathurst stood by. I heard the whine and grind of Snapper's drill, and the chink of steel instruments against steel dishes."

In Richard Osman's The Bullet That Missed (2022): "Now the door opens, and Fiona Clemence pops her head around it. That auburn hair, so famous from the shampoo adverts, the full smile, so famous from the toothpaste adverts, and the cheekbones honed by genetics and Harley Street."

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Talk:Blender v.6

Is there a particualar reason that this article is separate from the main Blender article? I don't think we should start a new article for every new release of a program.

Also, I've never heard of Blender v.6. I didn't see anything about it on the official site, and for as long as I can remember the releases have been 2.25, 2.26, etc. (with the latest release being the Blender 2.3x preview, announced on October 30).

-- Wapcaplet 23:33, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)

Ah, yes i was wondering about the v.6 thing because it does seem quite odd. This is simply rumours and speculation (i just found this out), please do as you wish or leave something on my talk page to notify, thank you. être 04:57, 29 Nov 2003 (UTC)

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Harad

In J. R. R. Tolkien's high fantasy The Lord of the Rings, Harad is the immense land south of Gondor and Mordor. Its main port is Umbar, the base of the Corsairs of Umbar whose ships serve as the Dark Lord Sauron's fleet. Its people are the dark-skinned Haradrim or Southrons; their warriors wear scarlet and gold, and are armed with swords and round shields; some ride gigantic elephants called mûmakil.

Tolkien based the Haradrim on ancient Aethiopians, people of Sub-Saharan Africa, following his philological research on the Old English word Sigelwara. He deduced that this word referred to some kind of soot-black fire demon before it was applied to the Aethiopians. He based the Haradrim's use of war elephants, meanwhile, on that of Pyrrhus of Epirus in his war against Ancient Rome. Critics have debated whether Tolkien was racist in making the protagonists white and the antagonists black, but others have noted that Tolkien showed anti-xenophobic sentiments in real life, opposing any attempt to demonise the enemy in both World Wars.

In Peter Jackson's film The Two Towers, the Haradrim were based on 12th century Saracens: they have turbans and flowing robes, and they ride mûmakil. The Haradrim appear in a variety of games and merchandise inspired by The Lord of the Rings.

Geography

Harad is a large land in the south of Middle-earth, bordered to the north by (from west to east) the lands of Gondor, Mordor, Khand and Rhûn. Historically the border with Gondor was to be the river Harnen, but by the time of the War of the Ring all the land further north to the river Poros is under the influence of the Haradrim. The border with Mordor runs along the southern Mountains of Shadow. Harad's west coast (the nearest to Gondor) is washed by the Great Sea, the western ocean of Middle-earth. Harad's eastern shores looks out on the Eastern Sea, Middle-earth's eastern ocean.

The elves named the land and its people Haradwaith, "South-folk", from the Sindarin harad, meaning "south", and gwaith, meaning "people". The Quenya word Hyarmen similarly means "south" in addition to being the name of the country. The hobbits called the area the Sunlands, and the people Swertings. Aragorn briefly describes his journeys in the land as being in "Harad where the stars are strange". Tolkien confirmed that this meant that Aragorn had travelled "some distance into the southern hemisphere" in Harad.

The great harbour city of Umbar lies on Harad's north-west coast; its natural harbour is the base of the Corsairs of Umbar, inspired by the Barbary pirates, who provide the Dark Lord Sauron with a sizeable fleet. The ships are different types of galleys, with both oars and sails; some are named as dromunds, others as having a deep draught (requiring a deep channel), many oars, and black sails.

Elsewhere in Harad there are "many towns"; one of these is "the inland city", the home of Queen Berúthiel (mentioned by Tolkien in an interview). The Harad Road is the main overland route between Gondor and Harad. Harad possesses jungles with apes, grasslands, and deserts.

Gondor described Harad as consisting of Near Harad and Far Harad. Near Harad corresponds loosely with North Africa or the Maghreb, while Far Harad, the vastly larger of the two regions, corresponds loosely with sub-Saharan Africa. Tolkien's own annotated map of Middle-earth, used by the illustrator Pauline Baynes to construct her iconic map, suggests that "Elephants appear in the great battle outside Minas Tirith (as they did in Italy under Pyrrhus) but they would be in place in the blank squares of Harad – also camels."

People

The Men of Harad are called Haradrim ("South-multitude"), Haradwaith, or Southrons by the people of Gondor. The Haradrim are of various ethnicities and cultures; some are organized into kingdoms. Frodo and Sam meet Faramir and his Rangers of Ithilien just before the latter ambush a company of Haradrim on the North Road. Frodo and Sam do not see much of the battle, since they are positioned elsewhere, but they hear the sounds of fighting, and a slain Haradrim warrior crashes at their feet. This warrior is described as having "brown" skin, with black plaits of hair braided with gold. He wears a scarlet tunic, as do the other Haradrim, and a gold collar. He is armed with a sword and has a corslet of brazen scales. Their standards are scarlet, and their great beasts, the mûmakil, have scarlet and gold trappings. They carry round spiked shields, painted yellow and black. Their leaders have a serpent emblem. The people of Far Harad were black-skinned; a group of them is described as "black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues" and "troll-men".

History
The Haradrim are independent peoples, but in the Second Age they are caught between the ambitions of Sauron (the Dark Lord) and the Númenóreans, who often kill Haradrim or sell them as slaves, and who become rulers of Harad. Over the centuries many Haradrim fall under Sauron's dominion, and to "them Sauron was both king and god, and they feared him exceedingly". They become mixed with Númenórean settlers, some of whom fall under the sway of Sauron as "Black Númenóreans". Under King Hyarmendacil I "South-victor" of Gondor, Harad becomes a vassal of Gondor. By the time of the War of the Ring, the Haradrim are again under the dominion of Sauron, and the Haradrim Corsairs provide the whole of his Black Fleet; many other Haradrim join his armies, some riding mûmakil. In the Battle of the Pelennor Fields, the leader of the Haradrim army is killed by King Théoden of Rohan.

Tolkien did not work out any particular languages for the Haradrim, though mûmak, "elephant", may be in the Harad language. Despite having a meaning in Quenya ("fate"), the name Umbar is adapted from the natives' language and not from Elvish or Adûnaic.

"Sigelwara Land"
Tolkien arrived at the idea of Harad, a hot Southern land, through his philological work. The Old English Biblical poem Exodus in the tenth-century Codex Junius 11 includes a passage that caught Tolkien's attention:

Tolkien was interested in particular in the Old English word used for "Aethiopians": it was Sigelwara, or in Tolkien's emendation Sigelhearwan. The Tolkien scholar Tom Shippey writes that Tolkien's philological research, described in his essay "Sigelwara Land", began from the assumption that the word could not originally have meant Aethiopian, but must have been co-opted to that usage having once meant something comparable. Tolkien approached the question by analysing the two parts of the word. Sigel meant, according to Tolkien, "both sun and jewel", the former as it was the Old English name of the Sun rune, Proto-Germanic: *sowilō (ᛋ), the latter connotation from Latin sigillum, a seal.

Tolkien decided that Hearwa was related to the Old English heorð, meaning "hearth", and ultimately to the Latin carbo, meaning "soot". The resulting meaning for Sigelhearwan, Tolkien decided tentatively, was "rather the sons of Muspell than of Ham", an ancient class of demons in Northern mythology "with red-hot eyes that emitted sparks and faces black as soot". This was exactly the sort of "stray pagan concept" hinting at England's lost mythology that Tolkien wanted.

In drafts of The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien toyed with names such as Harwan and Sunharrowland for Harad, which were derived from Sigelwara; Christopher Tolkien notes that these are connected to his father's Sigelwara Land. The philologist Elizabeth Solopova similarly notes that the hobbits' name for Harad, Sunland, suggests a similar link.

Moral geography
The Germanic studies scholar Sandra Ballif Straubhaar notes that it is not clear whether Tolkien meant the Haradrim to be grouped with his "Wild Men", though he named them as ancient enemies of Gondor. They are "ethnic others but not as ugly", they have a rich culture and well-trained elephants. The exception would be, she suggests, the men of Far [Southern] Harad whom the people of Gondor saw as "black men like half-trolls with white eyes and red tongues". With his "Southrons" from Harad, Tolkien had – in the view of John Magoun, writing in The J. R. R. Tolkien Encyclopedia – constructed a "fully expressed moral geography", from the hobbits' home in the Northwest, evil in the East, and "imperial sophistication and decadence" in the South. Magoun explains that Gondor is both virtuous, being West, and has problems, being South; Mordor in the Southeast is hellish, while Harad in the extreme South "regresses into hot savagery".

Solopova argues that the Haradrim's mûmakil war elephants put their country far to the East, since only India and lands to its east went on using war elephants after classical times. Lee and Solopova mention that Tolkien could have used the Old English version by Ælfric of the Book of Maccabees, which carefully introduces elephants to its Anglo-Saxon audience, using much the same phrase as Sam Gamgee, "māre þonne sum hūs", "bigger than a house", before describing their use in battle; the hero stabs the elephant, which is carrying a "wīghūs", a "battle-house", from below. Tolkien however mentioned Pyrrhus of Epirus's use of war elephants against Ancient Rome in 280–275 BC in his notes for the illustrator Pauline Baynes.

The stereotypical "Other"

Commentators such as Anderson Rearick and Stephen Shapiro have identified the Haradrim as a recognisably foreign race as well as the enemy, and have accused Tolkien of racism. Conversely, scholars such as Straubhaar have come to Tolkien's defence on the matter, noting that during the Second World War Tolkien expressed an anti-racist position. Straubhaar writes that "a polycultured, polylingual world is absolutely central" to Middle-earth, and that readers and filmgoers will easily see that. From there, she notes that the "recurring accusations in the popular media" of a racist view of the story are "interesting". She quotes the Swedish cultural studies scholar David Tjeder who described Gollum's account of the men of Harad ("Not nice; very cruel wicked Men they look. Almost as bad as Orcs, and much bigger." ) in Aftonbladet as "stereotypical and reflective of colonial attitudes". She argues instead that Gollum's view, with its "arbitrary and stereotypical assumptions about the 'Other'", is absurd, and that Gollum cannot be taken as an authority on Tolkien's opinion. Straubhaar contrasts this with Sam Gamgee's more humane response to the sight of a dead Harad warrior, which she finds "harder to find fault with": "He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home." Straubhaar quotes Shapiro, who wrote in The Scotsman that "Put simply, Tolkien's good guys are white and the bad guys are black, slant-eyed, unattractive, inarticulate, and a psychologically undeveloped horde". Straubhaar concedes that Shapiro may have had a point with "slant-eyed", but comments that this was milder than that of many of his contemporary novelists such as John Buchan, and notes that Tolkien had in fact made "appalled objection" when people had misapplied his story to current events. She similarly observes that Tjeder had failed to notice Tolkien's "concerted effort" to change the Western European "paradigm" that speakers of supposedly superior languages were "ethnically superior".

In other media

In Peter Jackson's film The Two Towers, the Haradrim appear Middle Eastern, with turbans, flowing robes, and riding mûmakil. A companion book on the film's "Creatures" states that the Haradrim were based on 12th century Saracens. The battle scene in Ithilien between the rangers of Gondor and the men of Harad was shot at the Twelve Mile Delta near Queenstown, New Zealand.

The Haradrim and the Corsairs of Umbar appear in much merchandise for the film trilogy, such as toys, The Lord of the Rings Trading Card Game, and the computer game The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth II. "Haradrim Slayers" feature in the computer game The Lord of the Rings: War of the Ring, while in the video game Middle-earth: Shadow of War, Baranor, a playable character who is a captain in Gondor's guard, is originally from Harad.

Iron Crown Enterprises produced a series of books for their tabletop roleplaying game Middle-earth Role Playing containing information about Harad and content allowing games to be set there. Key publications included the setting books Umbar: Haven of the Corsairs (1982), Far Harad (1988), and Greater Harad (1990), as well as the adventure books Warlords of the Desert (1989), Forest of Tears (1989), and Hazards of the Harad Wood (1990). Games Workshop have produced miniatures and rules relating to Harad for use in the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game, including for mumakil and Corsairs of Umbar.

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Expressways in South Korea

Expressways in South Korea, officially called as National expressways , are owned by the government, and operated mostly by the Korea Expressway Corporation, and to a less extent by the private sector. They were originally numbered in order of construction. Since August 24, 2001, they have been numbered in a scheme somewhat similar to that of the Interstate Highway System in the United States; the icons of the South Korean Expressways are notably similar to those in the United States because they are shaped like U.S. Highway shields and colored like Interstate shields with red, white, and blue, the colors of the flag of South Korea.
 * Arterial routes are designated by two-digit numbers, with north–south routes having odd numbers, and east–west routes having even numbers. Primary routes (i.e. major thoroughfares) have 5 or 0 as their last digit, while secondary routes end in other digits.
 * Branch routes have three-digit route numbers, where the first two digits match the route number of an arterial route.
 * Belt lines have three-digit route numbers where the first digit matches the respective city's postal code.
 * Route numbers in the range 70–99 are not used in South Korea; they are reserved for designations in the event of Korean reunification.
 * The Gyeongbu Expressway kept its Route 1 designation, as it is South Korea's first and most important expressway.

List of expressways

 * red backgrounds are not opened to traffic

Numbering scheme until 2001
A numbering scheme of expressways in South Korea changed in 2001. Before 2001, roads are numbered as order of its approval (although not exactly same). This list below is the lines by the old scheme. Note that name, origin and terminus of some lines are changed with numbering scheme.

Electronic toll collection
Hi-pass is the name of an electronic toll collection system for the expressways in South Korea. From the highway toll gate to the high-pass lane, it is a blue line.

Motorcycling restrictions

Since June 1, 1972, all motorcycles except police motorcycles are prohibited from driving on expressways in South Korea, regardless of engine displacement. Before 1972, motorcycles with an engine displacement greater than 250 cc were permitted on expressways.

Since March 15, 1992, all motorcycles except police motorcycles have been banned from certain other roads designated for motor vehicles only. These roads are marked by a circular blue sign with a white silhouette of a car.

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