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Wetten, dass..?

Wetten, dass..? (German for "Wanna bet, that..?") is a German-language Saturday entertainment television show. It is the largest and most successful television show in Europe. Its format was the basis for the British show You Bet! and the American show Wanna Bet?

The shows were broadcast live six to eight times a year from different cities in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. There were also seven open-air summer shows, broadcast from Amphitheatre Xanten, Plaça de Toros de Palma de Mallorca, Disneyland Paris, Waldbühne Berlin, and Aspendos Roman Theatre. Each of the shows, which were shown without commercial interruption, was usually scheduled to last for about two to three hours, but it was not uncommon for a show to run as much as 45 minutes longer.

The game show gained great popularity in the German-speaking countries through the presenters Frank Elstner, who was also the creator, and Thomas Gottschalk in the 80s and 90s. After that, especially due to the takeover of Markus Lanz, the audience ratings dropped significantly, which caused the discontinuation of the show in 2014. From 2021 to 2023, Thomas Gottschalk returned for one episode each year.

History
On 14 February 1981, the German channel ZDF broadcast the first episode in cooperation with the Austrian broadcaster ORF and the Swiss channel SF DRS as an Eurovision network show. The inventor of the show, Frank Elstner, hosted the show until its 39th episode in 1987. Wetten, dass..? has since been hosted by entertainer Thomas Gottschalk, except during a brief interval from 1992 to 1993, when nine episodes were presented by Wolfgang Lippert. Gottschalk hosted his 100th episode of the show on 27 March 2004.

In summer 2007, Wetten, dass..? had its first show in 16:9 widescreen. Since late 2009, Michelle Hunziker has assisted Gottschalk in hosting the show. The show on 27 February 2010 was the first show broadcast in HD. Thomas Gottschalk left the show on 3 December 2011, the end of the 2011 season, because of an accident involving Samuel Koch, a 23-year-old man who became a quadriplegic due to a stunt which he performed on the show on 4 December 2010.

After long speculations who would take over the show, ZDF announced on 11 March 2012 that Markus Lanz would be the next presenter. His first show was on 6 October 2012 and the last show was on 13 December 2014.

The show got a satirical homage with fake bets in 2016 for two episodes of 45 minutes each. It was hosted by comedian Jan Böhmermann.

On 6 November 2021, Gottschalk moderated a one-off repeat of Wetten, dass...?

Concept
The core gimmick of the show was the bets: ordinary people offer to perform some unusual (often bizarre) and very difficult task. Some examples, all of which were performed successfully, include:
 * Lighting a pocket lighter using an excavator's shovel (19 February 1983)
 * Assembling a V8 engine from parts and making it run within 9 minutes (2 November 1991)
 * 13 swimmers towing a 312-tonne ship over a distance of 25 meters (7 October 1995)
 * Recognising 5 of 6 (out of a total of 75) species of birds blindfolded by feeling a single feather (9 November 2002)
 * A Chinese martial artist pushing a car with a spear, the tip of which was resting on his throat
 * A nine-year-old boy from Vienna computing the shortest bus and railcar routes throughout the city from memory
 * A blindfolded farmer recognizing his cows by the sound they made while chewing apples

The other major attraction of the show was the top-ranking celebrity guests, with considerable screen time given to the host greeting and chatting with them. Each of the guests had to bet on the outcome of one of the performances and offer a wager, in recent years usually a humorous or mildly humiliating, originally more charitable, activity to be carried out if they lose. Until 1987, each of the celebrities bet on all the performances and the most accurate one was selected to be that show's Wettkönig ("bet king"). Ever since, one of the people performing the task is selected by a telephone vote. Celebrities that have appeared on the show included a vast range of personalities, with repeated guests including the likes of Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Tom Cruise, Angelina Jolie, Cameron Diaz, Naomi Campbell, Michael Douglas, Michael Jackson, Jennifer Aniston, David Beckham, Hugh Grant, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Claudia Schiffer, Heidi Klum, Bill Gates, Karl Lagerfeld, Mikhail Gorbachev, and Gerhard Schröder.

Additionally, until 2001, members of the audience could offer bets against the host to find a certain number of unusual persons (e.g. 10 ladies over the age of 65 driving motorbikes). One of these was selected at the beginning of the show and had to be fulfilled by its end. Since 2001, the host bets against the entire city where the show is held.

Between the bets and the celebrity smalltalk, there were musical performances by top-ranking artists like Johnny Cash, Phil Collins, Take That, Jennifer Lopez, Coldplay, OneRepublic, Rihanna, Spice Girls, Kiss, t.A.T.u., Whitney Houston, Katy Perry, Madonna, Kylie Minogue, Anastacia, Avril Lavigne, Christina Stürmer, Bryan Adams, Shakira, Britney Spears, Scorpions, Bon Jovi, Meat Loaf, Elton John, Tokio Hotel, Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, Ashley Tisdale, Joe Cocker, Lady Gaga, Luciano Pavarotti, Celine Dion, Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Robert Plant, Status Quo, Leona Lewis, David Bowie, Bruno Mars, Cher, Tina Turner, and Michael Jackson.

International versions
In the Netherlands, a version was broadcast between 1984 and 1999 under the name Wedden, dat..? by the AVRO and (from the early nineties) RTL 4. The Dutch shows were hosted by Jos Brink until 1993, after which Rolf Wouters took over. Reinout Oerlemans presented the show for one season in 1999.

Wetten, dass..? inspired the British series You Bet!. It was produced by London Weekend Television and was broadcast on ITV from 1988 to 1997. The hosts were Bruce Forsyth (1988–1990), Matthew Kelly (1991–1995), and Darren Day (1996–1997).

In October 2004, Wetten, dass..? also started in the Chinese television under the title Wanna Challenge (as gambling is illegal in China). It is shown once a week and reaches 60 million viewers each episode.

In 1998, a Slovenian version of Wetten, dass..? started weekly on POP TV under the title Super Pop hosted by Stojan Auer. There were initiations of close production connections with the original Wetten, dass..?, but the show was canceled because of high production costs before any further common productions were made.

The show was also broadcast with great success in Italy by Rai 1 from 1991 to 1996 (and then in 1999, 2001, and 2003) with the title Scommettiamo che...?. In 2008 it was taken up again by Rai 2. It has had ten seasons.

In 2005 and 2006, a Polish version was broadcast under the name Załóż się.

In 2006 and 2007 a Russian version was broadcast on the Channel One under the name Большой спор (Bolshoy Spor, literally A Big Betting). The host was Dmitry Nagiev. The show was closed after the 7th episode due to its low popularity.

¿Qué apostamos? is the Spanish version of the show. It originally run on Spain's national broadcaster TVE 1 between 4 May 1993 and 30 June 2000. The show was fronted by Ramón García, accompanied by Ana Obregón (1993–1998), Antonia Dell'Atte (1998–1999), and Raquel Navamuel and Mónica Martínez (2000). If the audience bet was completed, the person that placed the bet had to be drenched in water, and if it was not completed one of the presenters or guests had to take the water shower. In 2008, the Spanish federation of regional TV stations operating under the FORTA umbrella later recovered the format, hosted by Carlos Lozano and Rocío Madrid, but the revival was short lived and was swiftly axed due to low ratings and the high cost of producing the programme.

In 2006, ABC signed with reality producer Phil Gurin of The Gurin Company to develop an American version of the show. Six episodes were broadcast in July–September 2008, hosted by British duo Ant & Dec. This is not the first time the show has been produced for American audiences; in 1993, CBS broadcast a pilot called Wanna Bet?, hosted by Mark McEwen, which was not picked up as a full series.

There are also plans to show Wetten, dass..? in India, Northern Africa, and the Middle East.

Additional information

 * There was an instance where Frank Elstner lost a private bet himself; he had bet with his family that his colleague and friend Kurt Felix would never fool him. (Kurt Felix ran a show similar to Candid Camera, called Verstehen Sie Spaß? ("Can You Take a Joke?"). On the 29th show (21 September 1985), after a successful outdoor challenge which involved uncorking a bottle of wine and filling four glasses with a gripper claw fixed to a helicopter's skid within the space of $3 1/2$ minutes, the pilot was invited – along with the guests – for a drink of wine. But the contents of the bottle turned out to be pure vinegar, as Elstner discovered when he was the first to take a sample, and the red-haired and bearded pilot revealed himself to the laughing audience as Kurt Felix in disguise.   As Felix would later admit in one of his later Verstehen Sie Spaß? broadcastings, it was he and his production team who had sent the bet to the ZDF in the first place.
 * In a special on German TV, Elstner said, Wetten, dass..? had the chance to have Pope John Paul II on the show, but only via video link, not direct in person. Elstner refused, because this could be precedent for future celebrities and famous people to come on the show via video link and not appear in person on the set. Elstner regretted the once-in-a-lifetime chance to have the pope on his show and said it was the greatest mistake of his career.
 * Actor Karl-Heinz Böhm initiated his long-time charity project Menschen für Menschen in the 3rd show: Regarding a famine in the Sahel, he said at the end of the show: I bet that not even one third of our viewers in Austria, Switzerland and the Federal Republic of Germany will donate one Deutsche Mark for the starving people in the Sahel. And I want to lose this bet. If he lost, Böhm added, he would himself travel to Africa to hand over the money. Even though Böhm won the bet, as total donations were only around 1.2 million DM, he traveled to Africa and started his aid project for Ethiopia.
 * In the 25th show on 15 December 1984, environmental activists ran in front of the cameras with a banner that read "Nicht wetten – Donauauen retten" ("Don't bet – save the Danube wetlands"). When they were pulled out of the way by the show's security, Frank Elstner commanded that no one was to be thrown out of his show. He let the activists make their request and they left the show peacefully. The banner was for the then Austrian chancellor Fred Sinowatz, who was a guest on that show.
 * In the 48th show on 3 September 1988, an editor of the German satirical magazine Titanic, Bernd Fritz, snuck into the show as a contestant under the pseudonym Thomas Rautenberg. The real Thomas Rautenberg, a graphic artist from Munich, offered his bet to Wetten, dass..?, to see how the ZDF would react. He claimed to recognize the colour of pencils by tasting them. Bernd Fritz took the bet to the show and won the bet. However he admitted he was cheating and the solution of how he did it could be read in the next issue of Titanic. Gottschalk then told the audience that he would read the magazine, and tell the trick in the next show, so that the magazine wouldn't get the publicity from this stunt. It was later explained that the blacked ski goggles that contestants wear if they need their vision removed for the bet, were adjusted by Fritz so he could peek through a gap along his nose to see the colour of the pencil. The host tested the visibility through the goggles by faking punches against Fritz eyes and seeing if he would try to dodge them, but after the test it seemed as if Fritz adjusted the goggles to a more comfortable position before he attempted the bet. Since then, swimming goggles with a rubber sealing that sticks to the skin have been used.
 * In a show in 1992, actress Whoopi Goldberg came onto the show for a bet. Goldberg lost and as a result, she had to cast Gottschalk in her next movie. That movie was Sister Act 2: Back in the Habit where Gottschalk played the German cook, Father Wolfgang.
 * In the 102nd show on 8 December 1996, a live bet at the Russian space station Mir was planned. The cosmonauts wanted to decorate a Christmas tree in zero gravity in two minutes. Because of technical problems, however, the station couldn't be contacted during the show.
 * Salma Hayek is credited for restarting the popular trend of wearing Trachten (German for costumes, specifically Lederhosen for men and Dirndl for women). Wearing Trachten to the Oktoberfest wasn't fashionable for several decades after the second World War, and most of visitors wore the regular clothes. She appeared on the show on 5 October 2008. Salma would have to dress in a Dirndl if she was wrong. Salma decided that the boy would not be successful in assembling a tower of 20 beer crates placed upon one after one and climbing up. The boy failed his mission so Salma didn't have to wear the Dirndl presented to her. In a surprise move, Salma indicated she would like to try on Dirndl and see how it looked on her. The audience erupted in applause as she walked off the stage. When she returned to the stage with her Dirndl, Karl Lagerfeld was applauding so loudly and couldn't stop looking at her Dirndl. Salma commented how besotted she was about Dirndl and wanted to keep it.

Samuel Koch incident
Samuel Koch, a 23-year-old aspiring stuntman-turned-actor, became a quadriplegic during a stunt performed on the show on 4 December 2010. The incident was broadcast live on German television. Koch took on a challenge to jump over five moving cars of gradually increasing size using spring-loaded boots. Koch failed to clear the fourth car, driven by his own father. Koch's head hit the windshield and he landed on the studio floor, fracturing two cervical vertebrae and damaging his spinal cord.

Koch survived after emergency surgery, but as of 2021 he is permanently paralyzed from the neck down. The episode was suspended and then taken off air about 20 minutes later, for the first time in the program's history. In the following episode host Thomas Gottschalk announced his resignation, leaving after the last installment of the 2011 season.

Decline
Following Gottschalk's retirement, ZDF TV host Markus Lanz took over the hosting of the show (debuting on 6 October 2012). However, his approach to the show did not meet public or critical approval, causing the show to experience a drastic ratings loss. Eventually, with the conclusion of the 2014 Offenburg show (5 April 2014), it was announced that the show would be cancelled at the close of 2014, official statements claiming "out-moded concepts" as the main reason for this decision. This announcement drew protests from both Frank Elstner and Thomas Gottschalk. However, it was also stated that an eventual revival would be considered.

The 215th and last regular show was broadcast on 13 December 2014 from Nuremberg, with Samuel Koch – who never blamed Wetten, dass..? or Gottschalk for his condition – being one of the prominent guests.

Revival
On 28 July 2018, ZDF announced a one-evening revival of Wetten, dass..?, owing to the occasion of Gottschalk's upcoming 70th birthday (18 May 2020). It was later announced that the special would not happen in 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic. It was instead relegated to air live on 6 November 2021. The special became an instant ratings hit, scoring nearly 14 million views, prompting ZDF to consider a full comeback of the show.

With the success of the 2021 show, another broadcast of Wetten, dass...? was scheduled for 15 November 2022 out of Friedrichshafen, hosted once again by Thomas Gottschalk. In August 2023, however, Gottschalk announced his ultimate retirement from hosting the show, with the last one being the broadcast on 25 November the same year. This announcement drew hefty criticism from his fanbase.

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tragically often the implements have been transported thousands of miles from their homeland, a legacy of colonialism and racism among other things.

Pedant17 10:57, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I just looked this up, as I was wondering what it is. I see that Webster's dictionary (I looked it up on-line), which is the normative American English dictionary as far as I know, lists "Adze" as the main entry word, and "Adz" as an optional form. I feel like the article should reflect this. LKarabeg (talk) 07:48, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
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The article currently states that the adze is "similar to an axe but with the head mounted perpendicular to the handle". Of course, the head of an ax is also mounted perpendicular to the handle. I have no direct knowledge of the adze, but looking at the picture it seems as if the author of this statement meant to say that points along the surface of the adze head are perpendicular to the handle or, equivalently, that the normal of the head's surface was parallel with the direction of the handle. Can someone with a stake in this article correct his if I am right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.17.81.24 (talk) 00:35, 14 March 2014 (UTC)

Caption for pic "Adzes, Marshall and Yap Islands"
Of the 3 items shown, only the top appears to be an adze. The middle item is an ax, while the bottom item would be an adze if it had a sharp blade, but it has a blunt stone, perhaps for cracking grain ? Not sure what such a tool is called. Can we correct the caption ? SinisterLefty (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

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BCE Inc.

BCE Inc., an abbreviation of its former name Bell Canada Enterprises Inc., is a publicly traded Canadian holding company for Bell Canada, which includes telecommunications providers and various mass media assets under its subsidiary Bell Media Inc. Founded through a corporate reorganization in 1983, when Bell Canada, Northern Telecom, and other related companies all became subsidiaries of Bell Canada Enterprises Inc., it is one of Canada's largest corporations. The company is headquartered at 1 Carrefour Alexander-Graham-Bell in the Verdun borough of Montreal, Quebec, Canada.

BCE Inc. is a component of the S&P/TSX 60 and is listed on the Toronto Stock Exchange and the American-based New York Stock Exchange. It was ranked as Canada's 17th largest corporation by revenue as of June 2014, and as the ninth-largest by capitalization as of June 2015.

History
The Bell Telephone Company of Canada Ltd. was created by an act of Parliament on April 29, 1880. Later known as Bell Canada, its charter granted it the right to construct telephone lines alongside all public rights-of-way in Canada. Under a licensing agreement with the US-based American Bell Telephone Company, Bell also manufactured telephones and telephone equipment, an activity that would be spun off in a separate company that later became Northern Telecom and then Nortel Networks.

In 1983, all of the Bell Canada group of companies (also known as the "Bell Group") were placed under a new holding company, Bell Canada Enterprises Inc. (BCE). This corporate reorganization resulted in Bell Canada and its subsidiaries, including Northern Telecom (later Nortel Networks) and over 80 others, becoming subsidiaries of the new holding company, BCE. Under the new parent, each company was owned directly by BCE, which had the benefit of freeing the manufacturing company, Nortel, and other holdings from the heavily regulated telephone company, Bell Canada. Under a variety of leaders, BCE has embarked on a series of diversifications, consolidations, and corporate strategies. In 1988, Bell Canada Enterprises was shortened to BCE Inc.

Diversification and expansion
In 1983, A. Jean de Grandpré, chairman of Bell Canada, was appointed as the first chairman and chief executive officer (CEO) of BCE. The company soon embarked on a major diversification into property development, the energy sector, financial services, and other sectors. Within a few years, it became the first Canadian company to report CA$1 billion in profits.

When Jean Monty assumed the job of CEO in 1998, he pursued a convergence strategy, attempting to combine both content creation and distribution within BCE, and to take greater advantage of the emerging Internet market. BCE's acquisition in 2000 (and subsequent financing) of overseas carrier Teleglobe cost billions of dollars. BCE sold Teleglobe two years later; Jean Monty resigned and was succeeded by Michael Sabia as CEO.

Refocus on core business
Michael Sabia refocused BCE on its core telecommunications business, prompting BCE to buy back the 20% share in Bell Canada that it had sold in 1999 to Ameritech (later acquired by SBC Corporation). BCE also spun off operating units that it did not consider to be core to its business, including Emergis in 2004, and Bell Globemedia and Telesat Canada in 2006.

On February 1, 2006, stating the need to remain competitive, Bell Canada announced job cuts of 3,000 to 4,000 employees by the end of 2006.

On April 28 that year, BCE announced that CEO Michael Sabia was taking a 455% pay increase; his salary being raised from CA$1.21 million to $6.71 million. The pay included a $1.25 million salary, a $2.2 million bonus that Sabia converted to deferred share units, a long-term incentive payout of $3 million and other compensation, the filing shows. Bell Canada also posted record revenue increases for the previous fiscal year.

Under pressure from investors, on October 11, 2006, BCE announced it would be wound down, with its remaining assets converted to an income trust so its income could be distributed directly to shareholders through dividends, avoiding corporate taxes. The new entity was planned to be named "Bell Canada Income Fund". As part of this restructuring, Bell Aliant offered to take Bell Nordiq private, while remaining separate from the new Bell trust. Due to announced changes in taxation law by the Canadian federal government, on December 12, 2006, BCE announced it would not proceed with its planned conversion to an income trust. It then started planning a restructuring that would have eliminated the BCE holding company, but this was put on hold when the company began attracting takeover bids.

In February 2021, and in line with the growing importance of 5G wireless networks, BCE announces the launch of the largest investment program in its history to double the proportion of Canadians covered.

Proposed takeover
Due to its stagnant share price, starting in April 2007, BCE was courted for acquisition by pension funds and private equity groups, including a consortium led by the Canada Pension Plan Investment Board (with Kohlberg Kravis Roberts as one of the participants), a consortium led by the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan (OTPP), and a consortium that included Cerberus Capital Management. On June 30, 2007, BCE accepted a bid of $42.75 per share in cash, for a total valuation of $51.7 billion, from the group led by the OTPP, and including Providence Equity Partners, Madison Dearborn Partners, Merrill Lynch Global Private Equity, and Toronto-Dominion Bank. The proposed deal would have been the largest acquisition in Canadian history and the largest leveraged buyout ever. The deal was approved by BCE shareholders, Quebec Superior Court (whose ruling was overturned by the Quebec Court of Appeal, but was later upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada ), and the CRTC, subject to certain conditions for its corporate governance structure to ensure that Bell remained under Canadian control. (See BCE Inc v 1976 Debentureholders for further information).

Due to the tightening of the credit market caused by the subprime mortgage crisis, the investment banks financing the deal – led by Citigroup, Deutsche Bank and the Royal Bank of Scotland – started negotiations on May 16, 2008, to revise the terms of their loans with greater interest rates and greater restrictions to protect themselves. On July 4, 2008, BCE announced that a final agreement had been reached on the terms of the purchase, with all financing in place, and Michael Sabia left BCE, with George Cope assuming the position of CEO on July 11.

On November 26, 2008, BCE announced that KPMG had informed BCE that it would not be able to issue a statement on the solvency of the company after its privatization, one of the required conditions of the buyout. As a result, the purchase was cancelled.

Expanding again into mass media
With Shaw Communications purchasing the Global Television Network, Vidéotron launching its wireless telephone network with video content as a key selling point, and the enormous popularity of wireless and Internet video and other media streams at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, Bell once again sought to bring a content provider into its portfolio. In September 2010, Bell announced a deal to reacquire full control of the broadcasting properties owned by CTVglobemedia including the CTV Television Network. Bell also obtained a 15% interest in The Globe and Mail, CTVglobemedia's other major asset, with the remaining 85% owned by the Thomson family. Through this acquisition, Bell responded to an increasing trend away from traditional cable and satellite delivery channels and towards new distribution methods over the Internet and wireless networks. The CRTC approved the transaction in March 2011.

In 2016, BCE announced that it had entered an agreement to acquire Manitoba Telecom Services (MTS) in a transaction worth $3.9 billion. The deal was approved by both companies' shareholders and boards of directors, and closed in March 2017 after the Competition Bureau and other agencies approved of the acquisition.

Major subsidiaries
As of 2016, BCE Inc. has three primary divisions: Bell Canada, Bell Mobility, and Bell Media, comprising over 80% of BCE's revenue. Bell Aliant was a subsidiary company formed in 1999 from the merger of the four BCE-controlled telephone companies serving Canada's Atlantic provinces. In 2016, the operations of Bell Aliant were consolidated into those of Bell Canada.

Its Bell MTS Inc. subsidiary, owns 100% of its Bell Canada division which includes Bell Aliant, Bell Mobility, Bell Satellite TV, Bell Media, Bell Fibe TV, Virgin Mobile Canada and Lucky Mobile. Bell's flanker wireless brand, Virgin Mobile was officially rebranded to Virgin Plus on July 19, 2021, to reflect the brand's evolution beyond just wireless offerings which now includes Virgin Plus Internet as well as Virgin Plus TV.

The Bell Media assets include three Canadian conventional television networks, CTV, CTV 2 and Noovo along with dozens of specialty television channels including BNN Bloomberg, CTV Comedy Channel, CTV News Channel, CTV Drama Channel, CTV Sci-Fi Channel, MTV Canada, MTV2 Canada, Much, E!, TSN, RDS and 109 licensed radio stations in 58 markets across the country, all part of the iHeartRadio brand and streaming service. In 2014, Bell launched their CraveTV streaming service which offers the latest originals from Crave, HBO, HBO Max and Showtime, exclusive access to the entire HBO library, the biggest Hollywood blockbusters, and the best French-language content in Canada.

BCE also owns 18% of the Montreal Canadiens ice hockey club, and (together with BCE's pension plan) a 37.5% interest in Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment (owner of several Toronto sports franchises).

Bell Canada
Bell Canada formed the primary historic core of the company in central, Atlantic, and northern Canada.
 * Bell Aliant
 * Distribution (Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic) – Bell Canada, Cablevision du Nord de Quebec Inc.
 * Bell MTS
 * Bell Satellite TV – Bell ExpressVu Limited Partnership

Bell Media
Bell Media is the BCE broadcast and media subsidiary. In 2000, BCE bought the CTV Television Network for $2.3 billion. The company combined CTV with its holdings in The Globe and Mail newspaper to form Bell Globemedia, with BCE owning 70% and Thomson Newspapers and Woodbridge Co. Ltd. the remainder. In 2005, BCE sold its controlling interest in Bell Globemedia for $183 million to Woodbridge, Torstar, and the Ontario Teachers' Pension Plan, with BCE retaining a 20% stake. The company was subsequently renamed CTVglobemedia. In 2007, it acquired most assets of CHUM Limited. In 2010, BCE bought out the other owners, acquiring CTV's specialty television, digital media, conventional TV and radio broadcasting platforms. In August 2015, BCE sold its remaining 15% stake in the Globe and Mail to Woodbridge. Bell Media's subsidiaries:

 * Bell Media TV
 * Bell Media TV – Sports Specialty Services
 * Bell Media TV – Specialty Services (other than Sports)
 * Bell Media Radio
 * Bell Media Astral – Radio, TV, & Specialty Services

Other holdings
Below is partial list of the holdings of the BCE conglomerate.

Montreal Canadiens
In 2009, BCE partnered with the Molson family in acquiring the Montreal Canadiens Hockey Club and the Bell Centre. The $575 million purchase was termed "the richest deal in NHL history"; BCE's share was reported to be $40 million.

Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment
In 2011, together with Rogers Communications and Kilmer Sports (holding company of Larry Tanenbaum), BCE acquired Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment, owner of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Toronto Raptors professional sports teams. BCE's interest is held in partnership with Rogers Communications through the holding company 8047286 Canada Inc., 50% owned by Rogers and 50% by BCE holding company 7680147 Canada Inc., which is in turn 74.67% owned by BCE and 25.33% by BCE Master Trust Fund (investment fund of Bell's pension plan).

Kilmer Sports and BCE also co-own the Toronto Argonauts, a team the companies purchased in 2015; BCE and Kilmer each own 50% of the team.

BCE Development
BCE Development was founded as Daon Development by Vancouver-based developer Jack Poole in 1964. In the mid-1970s, Daon became known for expanding aggressively in the United States. The company first entered the American market in 1976 and nearly quadrupled its total assets to $1.67 billion in four years. It borrowed heavily to finance deals for premium office space and condominium conversions. By 1981, the company had assets worth more than $2 billion. When interest rates soared, however, Daon was caught overextended, could not meet its debt payments, and was forced into a major restructuring with its bankers. In 1985, BCE acquired 68% of Daon from its creditors and changed its name to BCE Development Corporation in February 1986. In March 1986, it agreed to acquire US$1 billion of commercial real estate from the American subsidiary of the Oxford Development Group Ltd., more than doubling BCED's portfolio. BCE stated its goal was to convert from a land developer to a developer of prime commercial properties.

In July 1990, BCE Inc. sold 50% ownership in BCE Development to Carena Developments Ltd. (controlled by the Toronto branch of the Bronfman family). BCED was renamed Brookfield Development Inc. (now Brookfield Asset Management) followed in 1994 by the remaining 50%.

Montreal Trust
In March 1989, BCE bought a 64% stake in Montreal Trust from Power Financial for $547-million. The diversification was considered a "natural evolution" due to BCE's long-standing interest in financial services, its familiarity in selling services to the public, and its in-house money management operations. In 1993, BCE sold Montreal Trust to Scotiabank for about $290-million, taking a substantial loss.

Nortel Networks
When BCE was created in 1983, Northern Telecom was transferred from a subsidiary of CRTC-regulated Bell Canada to a non-regulated subsidiary of BCE. In 1998, with Nortel's acquisition of Bay Networks, the company's name was changed to Nortel Networks. As a consequence of the stock transaction used to purchase Bay Networks, BCE's holding was diluted to a minority stake. In 2000, BCE spun out Nortel, distributing its stock in Nortel to its shareholders. Nortel's share price collapsed with the dot-com crash of 2000 and combined with a mishandling of a subsequent accounting investigation, the company never fully recovered. It was liquidated in 2009.

Teleglobe Inc.
In 1987, BCE purchased a 30% stake in Memotec Data Corporation for $196 million. When Memotec purchased international telecommunications carrier Teleglobe Canada from the Canadian government in 1987, the company was renamed Teleglobe Inc. In March 2000, BCE announced the purchase of the Teleglobe shares it did not own for $9.65 billion. In April 2002, BCE announced it was cutting off long-term funding of Teleglobe, would give up on the company, and take a charge of up to $8.5 billion. In 2005, Teleglobe was sold to the Tata Group and is now known as VSNL International Canada. In September 2002, it sold its voice and data business for $197 million.

Telesat Canada
In 1970, Bell Canada acquired a minority interest in satellite telecommunications carrier Telesat Canada. In 1998, BCE raised its stake to 100% at a cost of $158 million for the 42% of shares it did not already own. In December 2006, BCE announced the sale of Telesat to Loral Space & Communications and the Public Sector Pension Investment Board for CAD$3.28 billion.

TransCanada Pipelines
In 1983, BCE acquired a controlling 42% stake in TransCanada PipeLines Limited (TCPL). In 1990, it announced its departure from the energy sector and sold its stake in TCPL for $1.1 billion.

Corporate governance
BCE Inc.'s ISS Governance QualityScore as of December 3, 2019, is 2. The pillar scores are Audit: 1; Board: 3; Shareholder Rights: 3; Compensation: 3.

Corporate governance scores are provided to Yahoo! Finance by Institutional Shareholder Services (ISS). Scores denote a decile rank relative to index or region. A decile score of 1 denotes the lowest governance risk, while a score of 10 denotes the highest governance risk.

Board of directors
As of March 2020, the current board of directors are: Barry K. Allen, Mirko Bibic, Sophie Brochu, Robert E. Brown, David F. Denison, Robert P. Dexter, Ian Greenberg, Katherine Lee, Monique F. Leroux, Calin Rovinescu, Karen Sheriff, Robert C. Simmonds, and Paul R. Weiss.

Since inception, BCE has had five CEOs:
 * A. Jean de Grandpré: 1983–1988
 * 1988–1992
 * Lynton Wilson: 1992–1998
 * Jean Monty: 1998–2002
 * Michael Sabia: 2002–2008
 * George A. Cope: 2008–2020
 * Mirko Bibic: Current

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Yakin

The following people with the surname Yakin have articles:

 * Yakin brothers, both Swiss footballers of Turkish origin
 * Hakan Yakin (born 1977)
 * Murat Yakin (born 1974)
 * Abraham Yakin (1924–2020) Israeli painter
 * Boaz Yakin (born 1966) American screenwriter and film director
 * Hannah Yakin (born 1933) Israeli artist

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/French alphabet

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of pages entitled French alphabet and English alphabet.

Further comments should be made on the articles' talk pages rather than here as this page is kept as an historic record.

The result of the debate was to keep the pages, which had been largely rewritten since their original VfD listing.

seems to be wrongly named disambiguation pages for French and English. No content about alphabets, though. Rmhermen 00:58, Nov 25, 2003 (UTC)
 * An individual has taken the trouble of redoing the English alphabet page. Still, the page is redundant, there already existing a page on Latin alphabet, which, incidentally, seems the more appropriate term. I beg that either the pages be rendered as redirects, or be Deleted. Lord Emsworth 01:29, Nov 25, 2003 (UTC)
 * I agree that French alphabet and English alphabet are both largely redundant. I'd suggest that they become redirects, and that any peculiarities be added to their respective entries at latin alphabet. Dduck 15:38, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * French alphabet should be kept, unconditionally. Most of the the English-specific stuff from Latin alphabet should be moved to Latin alphabet, and Latin alphabet used for, well, the alphabet used for Latin? (A B C D E F G H I K L M N O P Q R S T V X Y Z), with a list of adaptions, and perhaps notes on common ones. Morwen 07:22, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Note the "Latin alphabet" doesn't just mean the alphabet used in Latin, it also refers to modern alphabets derived from Latin. Onebyone 11:45, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the best solution would be to retain the Latin alphabet page as is and have a page of Alphabets derived from the Latin which would show the actual alphabets for French, English and other vernacular languages? Bmills 11:56, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * I disagree. The English alphabet doesn't come entirely from the Roman one: The current letter Y, was, in Shakespeare's time, a slightly diffent symbol with a phonetic pronunciation equal to the Greek 'theta'- a Th sound. That's why, for a while, the word 'You' was spelled 'Thou', and 'The' and 'Ye' (as in Ye Olde Shoppe) meant the same thing. In the modern words, sometimes the sound won and sometimes the spelling won. Keep. -Litefantastic
 * Not totally relevant, but this isn't quite right. Y was a letter in its own right. The thorn was used at times in writing English, but the Europe-imported printing press lacked it, and so the similar-looking y was used. You and thou were, however, always different words (though they did rhyme, unlike today's renditions). (Bigger digression: Greek theta used to be a t-, not a th- sound, though the latter is in Modern Greek.) -- VV 04:44, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Which is why I think a page showing how modern language alphabets vary from the Latin would be a good way to organise this material. Bmills 13:02, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * That's exactly what I did: Alphabets derived from the Latin. BTW, what that (UTC) thing stand for? -Litefantatsic 8:24, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Off-topic, I know, but look it up: UTC == Coordinated Universal Time
 * Keep in light of Litefantatsic's work (no pun intended). Bmills 13:53, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep. Stub needs work but could be very useful in beginning comparitive language research. Davodd 21:10, Nov 29, 2003 (UTC)
 * Keep. The alphabets are different. They deserve different articles. Kingturtle 03:43, 30 Nov 2003 (UTC)
 * Obviously nothing should be deleted. We are discussing the organisation of the pages, not their existence. Things might be redirected, but never deleted. And towards that discussion, I'd just suggest that Latin alphabet (the generic term), English alphabet et al, and List of alphabets derived from the Latin (note proper naming convention) each contain contents appropriate to their names. -- Toby Bartels 22:54, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Delete. I oppose the very notion of a "french alphabet". We, writers of french, indeed use letters with diacritic marks like "é", or ligatured letters like "œ", but these do not really count as letters, for instance they do not count as special letters when classifying words in the alphabetical order. That's much different from the cases of "ch" in czech or "ll" in Spanish. --FvdP 23:31, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC) (native french speaker, if that counts.) I admit an article on french writing conventions could be useful, though (if a paragraph on that subject doesn't exist already somewhere in Wikipedia).
 * Just a note: "ll" in Spanish has been normalized and is now considered as two l's instead of a separate letter, so maybe a better example would be "ñ". Anyway, in my opinion, even if the "French alphabet" article isn't deleted it should be corrected. After all, it consists of 26 letters, but maybe a note on diacritics and ligatures would be needed. Sabbut

Remember (see top): this is an archive, it was decided to keep the pages.


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User talk:Jahsonic

First Choice
Hi, your article First Choice was speedy deleted for no apparent reason. I've listed it on votes for undeletion. Kappa 00:06, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Jahsonic 00:28, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi to Wayland
Hi User:Wayland, I just found out today, that aside from excellent history of subcultures in the 20th century, you also did the history of literature and alternative society. So you could say I am a fan. Could you check upon some edits I have made on Underground culture and transgressive art, please? Thanks in advance.--Jahsonic 11:03, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

 * thanks, very useful indeed --Jahsonic 08:19, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

 * I just rewrote the entry for Underground music and I get the feeling that we need to differentiate between underground culture and underground cultural products. These include underground film, cult movies, underground music and a curiously absent article: cult fiction. In short, all products that develop a cult following. Thanks for your input. and if you have any ideas to start the cult fiction article. I guess it would include such authors as (long list omitted)

 * Okay, I haven't had much time to do much editing recently but I did have a little bit of time today. I've created Category:Underground and placed quite a few related articles together in the category so they can be navigated easily. I'm thinking these are all to do with "square pegs in round holes" (or round pegs in square holes) or the relationship between odd individuals and an over-normalising society so the category spans various divisions.

--wayland 17:16, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Just saying hello
I've just stumbled upon your userpage. I've been an admirer of the Jahsonic site for some years. Didn't realise you were a wikipedian too. Cnwb 11:31, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Je me joins à ce message pour vous faire part de mes plus vives félicitations à propos de votre site Jahsonic. C'est une mine d'informations sur beaucoup de sujets. Votre page sur l'histoire de la house music est-elle disponible en français ? Je serais très intéressé par cela. Serait-il possible aussi de crée une page sur le DJ français Laurent Garnier, un grand merci pour ça !!!! Alsop

Un autre site intéressant: http://www.soulwalking.co.uk/

 * Merci pour les commentaires. I will not at this time translate parts of Jahsonic in French. Feel free to translate the house music yourself, but please credit the original authors. --Jahsonic 12:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Critical Theory
I'm a little bit confused as to why you are editing the content of discussions... Voyager640 15:42, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi Voyager, Yes I see what you mean. I meant no harm. I changed cultural theory to culture theory because of the redirect

--Jahsonic 16:17, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Nanostubs
Hi! Sorry to keep blowing off that article on the French director, but an article about a guy like that needs more than just his birthday. It's pretty useless unless you can tell a lot more about this fellow. - Lucky 6.9 07:39, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * You are referring to the Claude Miller article. I disagree with you. Birthday is where every article starts and I provided the link to the French entry as well. Furthermore, Ludivine Sagnier, Lino Ventura, Patrick Dewaere, Lumière and Company and Elsa Lunghini were incoming links to this page, and for those pages my entry provided real info. Build the web, not just the article. See Build_the_web. I resent that you deleted an article that I had just begun to edit and which was 2 minutes old. Was my article inaccurate, POV? No. --Jahsonic 07:49, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Your article was neither inaccurate nor POV. It was, however, a speedy deletion candidate for lack of content all three times. If you had put half as much effort into the article as you have defending it here, you wouldn't be taking a 24-hour time out for breaking the three-revert rule. I tried being nice and you jumped down my throat. - Lucky 6.9 09:16, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * One friendly suggestion: If you were planning on expanding this anyway, you should have done so on a temporary page, such as the sandbox or your talk page.  I'll go ahead and lift the block so that you can expand your work. - Lucky 6.9 09:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * OK, you're unblocked. - Lucky 6.9 09:21, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks, but the only page I can edit now is this one, was that your intention? --Jahsonic 12:36, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

This was the article how I had written it:

Claude Miller is a French film director who was born February 20 1942 in Paris. Claude Miller

Mannerism
Hi! at the risk of being dropped from your list of favorite Wikipedians I restored the statement that Mannerism is "one of the few style designations whose label was self-applied." I'm trying to think of others besides Art Nouveau and all the self-conscious self-designations within Modernism. It seems such an unexceptionable statement. Should we discuss it at Talk:Mannerism? --Wetman 20:53, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Wetman, no offense taken, I have added an entry at the Mannerism talk page. You are still one of my two favourite Wikipedians. (and you both recently contributed to an article I started: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Modern_novel&action=history)

Deconstruction
Sorry for reverting your edit to this page. It's not exactly wise to remove so much content without giving any reason in your edit summary or discussing it on the talk page. Johnleemk | Talk 19:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

 * You are, of course, completely right, sorry for not discussing it, the intro to this article, however, reads as pure gibberish. --Jahsonic 19:23, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Sentiment and the Sentimental
Just a note on the change of sentimental novel to sentiment in Augustan literature: I understand the change, as a red link is annoying, but we (those few folks doing 18th century literature) keep waiting for one of us to break down and attempt an article on the sentimental novel. I know that I'm something like the last person on earth who could do a fair job on it, because I'm a satire fan, and the sentimental novel was one of the drippiest, most insipid things on earth, from my point of view. Bishonen knows the material better, but she likes it not much better than I do. I hope the red link, spread out now across 12 articles or so, will spur someone with training in feminist theory and the novel will jump in. (Generally, the feminist literary historians praise the sentimental novel to some degree, or find it interesting, while unreconstructed old historians and Marxist literary people like me think of it as a sign of mass psychosis.) I'm not going to change the link back, as I really have no objection to the change, but I thought I'd explain why that red link is so prevalent in articles I've been the primary author on (and a little bottle of oil (put in so the sentence doesn't end on a preposition)). Geogre 13:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Vanity
Is this page vanity or not: Mikhail Lebedev --GoOdCoNtEnT 08:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

 * not my field of expertise --Jahsonic 08:05, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Rémy Belvaux (I)
Has Rémy Belvaux really passed away? Please cite your sources in the article. --Edcolins 13:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * ooops, cannot confirm for the moment, have reverted Belvaux's page to present tense, I like this from your page "All in all, Wikipedia is a terrific, addictive, Borgesian project..." and your touching the issue of notability. --Jahsonic 13:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * found source --Jahsonic 14:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks. --Edcolins 14:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Rémy Belvaux (II)
Thank you for pointing out that IMDB now contains the date of birth of Rémy Belvaux. It wasn't there a couple of days ago... I didn't check again. How do they know that by the way? Is IMDB a kind of wiki? Cheers. --Edcolins 09:47, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Not a wiki, but edited by humans nevertheless --Jahsonic 10:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Anyway, I have added a footnote. Even if the piece of information is wrong, at least it relies on a (relatively) reliable external source (see however IMDB, a bit scary I have to say). --Edcolins 11:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Invite to consider Novels WikiProject Collaborations
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Redirect
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 * Hi, I've removed the redirect. I do not know if the page meets the criteria for making a Wikipedia article, but would consider moving if the answer is yes. --Jahsonic 11:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

 * It might be suitable... looks like it could be useful material, anyway. Almost all the items on the list have links, which is good (lists full of red links don't go down well). It certainly wouldn't be speedy deleted, though obviously I can't promise someone won't send it to AfD. I recommend you see if you can fix it up so the numbering works without having to indent like it is, before you move it, as it would look better without everything being monospaced – Gurch 12:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

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Hello, Jahsonic: I looked through the edit history for Transgressive art and found that you were a major contributor. After looking at your user page, I can see that I've come to the right person, so to speak, to solicit input from on this CFD (especially since the creator of the category was an anon. IP editor). As for myself, I have concerns about the workability of the category, but have not as yet come to any conclusions. Any insights or suggestions you can offer would be very welcome. Regards, Cgingold 19:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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question
How well do you know the academic literature on subcultures? Slrubenstein  |  Talk 15:36, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

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César Graña
Hi Jahsonic. Are you currently active and, if so, are you still interested in doing an article on César Graña? I have some bibliography. Herostratus (talk) 02:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, I have completed this article myself, mostly using Russian sources. But your proto-article was useful to me, thank you. Herostratus (talk) 03:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hakan Yakin

Hakan Yakin (Hakan Yakın; born 22 February 1977) is a Swiss professional football manager and former player who last coached İstanbulspor in Turkey. Having spent the majority of his playing career as a forward or attacking midfielder, Yakin spent most of his playing career in the domestic league with brief forays into other leagues. He represented Switzerland national team for eleven years, garnering 87 caps and scoring 20 goals.

Early and personal life
Hakan Yakin was born on 22 February 1977 in Basel, Switzerland, to Turkish parents. He grew up and went to school in suburban Münchenstein, Basel-Landschaft, just outside Basel, and close to the borders of France and Germany. He is the younger brother of international football player Murat Yakin, also a former member of the Switzerland national team, who currently works as a manager. His elder half-brother Ertan Irizik is also a former football professional. Yakin's surname is based on the Turkish word Yakın (meaning close, adjacent ), however as he is a Swiss resident and citizen, the name which he uses is Yakin.

Club career
As a child, Yakin played in the youth teams of his local side Concordia Basel. He signed his first professional contract with hometown club Basel in January 1995. He played his League debut for Basel on 12 April 1995 in the 1994–95 season in the match against Lausanne. He was brought on in the 60th minute as replacement for Alexandre Rey and with his first touch of the ball, just 18 seconds later, he scored the goal to make it 3–0, a header (final score 5–0).

After two and a half years in Basel, he transferred to Grasshoppers, with manager Christian Gross, but could not establish himself, making most of his appearances as substitute, and he was loaned to St. Gallen for the second half of the 1997–98 season. He moved immediately into the starting eleven and so the loan was prolonged, before he returned to the Grasshoppers.

During January 2001, he transferred back to Basel. At the end of the 2001–02 season Yakin won the national Double with Basel and a year later won the Swiss Cup again. He recalls the 2002–03 Champions League Group B match on 12 November 2002 against Liverpool in St. Jakob-Park as the "match of his life". The game was drawn 3–3 and Yakin gave all three assists as Basel cruised to a 3–0 half-time lead as they qualified, one point above Liverpool, for the 2002–03 UEFA Champions League second group stage.

Curiosity during the championship play-off round of their 2002–03 season was, that in the home match in the St. Jakob-Park on 19 April 2003, Yakin had a good game and scored a perfect hat-trick during the first half of the game as Basel won 3–0 against Young Boys. Yakin showed his other side in the return match in the Stadion Neufeld in Bern one week later. As YB went a goal up he lost his temper and kicked the ball away, thus collecting a yellow card. Just ten minutes later he committed a rough foul and collecting a second yellow, thus yellow/red, to be sent-off.

His career was then overshadowed by some trouble regarding his club transfers, as his engagements outside Switzerland (Paris Saint-Germain, VfB Stuttgart, and Galatasaray ) were not accompanied by luck. In 2005–06, Yakin returned to Switzerland, joining BSC Young Boys. In July 2008, Yakin signed a contract with Qatar champions Al-Gharafa, for a salary of around €2.5 million per year.

In March 2009, it was reported that Yakin had been training with the Grasshoppers Under-21 side, coached by his brother Murat, in a bid to get fit. Yakin then signed a contract on 25 June 2009 in his homeland Switzerland with FC Luzern, running through to 30 June 2011. In summer 2011 his brother Murat became his manager at FC Luzern.

During the mid-season break in January 2012 Yakin transferred to Bellinzona in the Challenge League, the second tier of Swiss football. He played his team debut on 26 February in the 2–0 home win against Stade Nyonnais. He scored his first two goals for the club in the 3–2 away win against Aarau on 9 April 2012.

International career
Yakin was capped 87 times for Switzerland, the first coming in 2000. He was offered Turkish nationality before being called up to the Swiss squad, but turned it down for personal reasons. He has played in UEFA Euro 2004, UEFA Euro 2008 and both the 2006 FIFA World Cup and the 2010 FIFA World Cup with his country.

On 11 June 2008, he scored the opening goal in the 32nd minute of Switzerland's second Euro 2008 Group A match against Turkey, giving them a 1–0 lead and he refused to celebrate after the goal, out of respect for his family's birth country. However, he missed another chance shortly afterward as Turkey scored two second-half goals, resulting in Switzerland's becoming the first team to be mathematically eliminated from their own tournament within five days of its beginning. However, in Switzerland's final group match against Portugal on 15 June, Yakin added two second-half goals, the second a penalty kick, to secure their first ever win at the UEFA European Championship, 2–0. Yakin finished the tournament as joint-second highest goalscorer with Lukas Podolski, Roman Pavlyuchenko, and Semih Şentürk with three goals each, behind David Villa's four goals.

Under new national team coach, Ottmar Hitzfeld, Yakin participated in seven of Switzerland's ten qualifying matches for the 2010 FIFA World Cup, starting twice and making five substitute appearances, scoring one goal in Switzerland's opening qualifier against Israel. He announced his retirement from the Switzerland national team on 4 October 2011.

Coaching career
He was hired as an assistant coach to his brother Murat at Schaffhausen in 2019. After Murat was hired as the manager of the Switzerland national football team in August 2021, Hakan served as a caretaker manager for Schaffhausen for 3 games. He returned to being assistant coach for the remainder of the season under Martin Andermatt. Together, they coached Schaffhausen to a second place finish in the 2021–22 Swiss Challenge League, but missed out on promotion in the promotion playoff.

On 4 June 2022, he was confirmed as the new head coach at Schaffhausen, as Andermatt's contract was not renewed. This appointment is contingent on Yakin entering the course to receive his UEFA Pro Licence. As a result, he was briefly removed from the sidelines, but was later confirmed as head coach on 5 September 2022. On 20 May 2023, he departed Schaffhausen, following a 2–0 loss to Aarau. Due to middling results in his first season as head coach, the club had decided not to renew his contract for the coming season. For personal reasons, Yakin stepped down from his post for the last two games of the season.

International goals

 * Scores and results list Switzerland's goal tally first.

Club
Grasshoppers
 * Swiss Super League: 2000–01

Basel
 * Swiss Super League: 2001–02
 * Swiss Cup: 2001–02, 2002–03
 * Uhrencup: 2003

Galatasaray
 * Turkish Cup: 2004–05

Young Boys
 * Uhrencup: 2007

Individual

 * Axpo Swiss Super League Player of the Year: 2003, 2008
 * Swiss Super League top scorer: 2007–08 (24 goals)

Notes and references

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Murat Yakin

Murat Yakin (Murat Yakın ; born 15 September 1974) is a Swiss football coach and former player. He is the manager of the Switzerland national football team.

In 2021, following stints as manager at Swiss clubs including Basel, Grasshoppers and Sion, he was appointed as coach of the Swiss national team, guiding them to qualification for 2022 FIFA World Cup and UEFA Euro 2024.

Playing career
Yakin spent the longest spell of his career playing for his hometown club Basel, where he was the defensive linchpin, captain and libero of a team which enjoyed domestic and relative European success. He won the Swiss Super League on five occasions (1995, 1996, 2002, 2004, 2005), and the Swiss Cup three times (1994, 2002, 2003). He recalls the 2002–Champions League second leg qualifying match on 28 August 2002 against Celtic in St. Jakob-Park as the "match of his life". Basel won the game 2–0, with Yakin scoring the second goal in the 22nd minute as Basel qualified 3–3 on the away goals rule for the 2002–03 UEFA Champions League group stage.

In 2003, he played in the FIFA "Match against Poverty" in Basel, on Ronaldo's team which won 4–3 against Zinedine Zidane's.

Yakin was capped 49 times for the Switzerland national team, representing his country at UEFA Euro 2004.

Early career
Yakin was appointed coach of Thun in 2009, after a time as a youth coach at Grasshoppers and head coach of Frauenfeld. Yakin led Thun to promotion in his first year as manager there, winning the Swiss Challenge League in 2010. In his second season with the club, Thun managed to finish fifth in the Swiss Super League and earned a spot in the second qualifying round of the following season's UEFA Europa League.

In May 2011, he joined Luzern for a reported 200,000 Swiss francs. He took over from Christian Brand, who was made caretaker after the sacking of Rolf Fringer.

Basel
On 15 October 2012, Yakin was appointed as the new manager of Basel. Under his management, Basel won twice, home and away, against Chelsea in the 2013–14 Champions League group stage. He praised the supporters in the stadium, saying that they pushed the team to win through the 90 minutes. He was also delighted to have received praise from then Chelsea manager José Mourinho. On 17 May 2014, Basel announced Yakin was no longer with the club after he guided them to two domestic titles in as many years.

Spartak Moscow
On 16 June 2014, Yakin was appointed as manager of Russian Premier League side Spartak Moscow. According to Russian media, the deal was a long-term contract with Yakin earning an annual salary of 1.6 million euros ($2.18 million).

On 30 May 2015, after only one season with the club, his contract with the club was terminated after a mutual agreement.

Return to Schaffhausen
On 17 June 2019, it was confirmed, that Yakin had returned to Schaffhausen, as their new manager having left Sion previously that year.

Switzerland national team
On 9 August 2021, Yakin was appointed as the manager of the Switzerland national team. In the 2022 World Cup qualification, Northern Ireland held reigning European champions Italy to a goalless draw, thereby ensuring that Switzerland qualified for the tournament and Italy had to play in the playoffs. In gratitude, he sent 9.3 kg of Swiss chocolate to the Irish Football Association. In the 2022 FIFA World Cup, he led Switzerland to finish second in their group, to qualify to the round of 16, where they lost 6–1 to Portugal. At the UEFA Euro 2024 tournament, Yakin guided Switzerland through to the Round of 16 knockout stage where they recorded a famous 2-0 victory against defending champions Italy. They were subsequently knocked out of the Quarter Finals in a penalty shootout loss to England, after a 1-1 draw.

Personal life
Yakin is the elder brother of Hakan Yakin, who was also a professional footballer with successful stints at Grasshoppers, Basel, and Young Boys and represented Switzerland at international level also. Yakin is of Turkish descent.

As a player
Basel
 * Swiss Super League: 2001–02, 2003–04, 2004–05
 * Swiss Cup: 2001–02, 2002–03

Individual
 * Swiss Young Player of the Year: 1994
 * Axpo Swiss Super Leaguer Player of the Year: 2002

As a manager
Thun
 * Swiss Challenge League: 2009–10

Basel
 * Swiss Super League: 2012–13, 2013–14

Individual
 * Swiss Super League Manager of the Year: 2013–14, 2017–18

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Canadian Action Party

The Canadian Action Party (CAP) (Parti action canadienne, PAC) was a Canadian federal political party founded in 1997 and deregistered on 31 March 2017.

The party stood for Canadian nationalism, monetary and electoral reform, and opposed liberal globalization and free trade agreements that had been signed by the Canadian government.

History
The Canadian Action Party (CAP) was founded by Paul T. Hellyer, a former Liberal minister of national defence in the cabinet of Lester B. Pearson. Hellyer ran unsuccessfully for the leadership of the Liberal Party in 1968, and for the leadership of the Progressive Conservative Party in 1976.

CAP nominated candidates for the first time in the 1997 federal election.

After the 1997 election, it absorbed the Canada Party, another minor party concerned about monetary reform which had been formed by former members of the Social Credit Party of Canada. Former Canada Party leader Claire Foss served as vice president of CAP until November 2003.

Hellyer resigned as CAP leader in 2003 after the New Democratic Party (NDP) didn't agree to a merger proposal, under which the NDP would change its name. In 2004, Connie Fogal, an activist lawyer, was acclaimed party leader after David Orchard failed to respond to an invitation to take over the leadership. Fogal stepped down in 2008 and was succeeded by Andrew J. Moulden following the 2008 federal election.

The acting chief electoral officer of Canada advised the party leader that the party would be deregistered effective Friday, March 31, 2017, for not having at least 250 members who are eligible voters.

Positions
A number of CAP members also belonged to the Committee on Monetary and Economic Reform and had been influential in developing CAP's monetary policy, particularly its position that the Bank of Canada, rather than chartered banks, should provide loans to the government, if required, to fund public spending.

CAP also argued for the abrogation of the North American Free Trade Agreement, and opposed current government trade initiatives and any legislation leading to the Free Trade Area of the Americas, Trans-Pacific Partnership and what it saw as integration with the United States and Mexico into a North American Union.

Federal leaders

 * Shown by default in chronological order of leadership

Presidents

 * Shown by default in chronological order of leadership

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Epispadias

An epispadias is a rare type of malformation in which the urethra ends, in males, in an opening on the upper aspect of the penis, and in females when the urethra develops too far anteriorly. It occurs in around 1 in 120,000 male and 1 in 500,000 female births.

Signs and symptoms
Most cases involve a small and bifid penis, which requires surgical closure soon after birth, often including a reconstruction of the urethra. Where it is part of a larger exstrophy, not only the urethra but also the bladder (bladder exstrophy) or the entire perineum (cloacal exstrophy) are open and exposed on birth, requiring closure.

Relationship to other conditions
Despite the similarity of name, an epispadias is not a type of hypospadias, and involves a problem with a different set of embryologic processes.

Women can also have this type of congenital malformation. Epispadias of the female may occur when the urethra develops too far anteriorly, exiting in the clitoris or even more forward. For females, this may not cause difficulty in urination but may cause problems with sexual satisfaction. Frequently, the clitoris is bifurcated at the site of urethral exit, and therefore clitoral sensation is less intense during sexual intercourse due to frequent stimulation during urination. However, with proper stimulation, using either manual or positional techniques, clitoral orgasm is definitely possible.

Causes
Epispadias is an uncommon and partial form of a spectrum of failures of abdominal and pelvic fusion in the first months of embryogenesis known as the exstrophy - epispadias complex. While epispadias is inherent in all cases of exstrophy it can also, much less frequently, appear in isolation as the least severe form of the complex spectrum. It occurs as a result of defective migration of the genital tubercle primordii to the cloacal membrane, and so malformation of the genital tubercle, at about the 5th week of gestation.

Treatment
The main treatment for isolated epispadias is a comprehensive surgical repair of the genito-urinary area usually during the first 7 years of life, including reconstruction of the urethra, closure of the penile shaft and mobilisation of the corpora. The most popular and successful technique is known as the modified Cantwell-Ransley approach. In recent decades however increasing success has been achieved with the complete penile disassembly technique despite its association with greater and more serious risk of damage.

Prognosis
Even with successful surgery, patients may have long-term problems with:
 * incontinence, where serious usually treated with some form of continent urinary diversion such as the Mitrofanoff
 * depression and psycho-social complications
 * sexual dysfunction

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Talk:Star Channel (Greek TV channel)

General attempted improvement in 2003
I edited to make it more grammatically correct and therefore understandable. Somethings I just didn't touch because I couldn't understand what the sentence was attepting to convey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carriejane (talk • contribs) 12:00, 30 November 2003

Requested move 2 March 2017

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The result of the move request was: move to Star Channel (Greece). This will move Star Channel (disambiguation) to Star Channel. Primefac (talk) 14:40, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Star Channel → Star Channel (Greece) – Disambiguation with several other topics listed on the disambiguation page at Star TV. See also the ongoing discussions at Talk:STAR TV and Talk:Star Television Network. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:22, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Oppose I'm not seeing anything else on that dab page that uses "Star Channel" as its name, much less prevents this one from being the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for "Star Channel". --В²C ☎ 21:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, there's a pretty significant topic that was originally named Star Channel. Anyone reading literature from that period might want to look up that topic. There is also a Star Chinese Channel and various topics in template:STAR and lots of other Star channels on that dab page (and lots of other Star channels outside of television – e.g., radio channels). —BarrelProof (talk) 23:25, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Well, I see that IIO just created Star Channel (disambiguation). The list of three uses there strengthens the case a bit, but |Star_Channel|Star_Channel_(US) pageview analysis  demonstrates this (Greek) Star Channel is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC.  --В²C ☎ 18:00, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * There's only about a 3:1 ratio of page views between Star Channel and Star Channel (Japan), and that includes all the people who are accidentally landing at the former when looking for the latter. Star Channel didn't even have a hatnote to help people find Star Channel (Japan) until today, and Star Channel (Japan) was also missing from the Star TV dab page until yesterday. It's no wonder people aren't viewing Star Channel (Japan) as much since it has been so difficult to find. That also totally neglects all of those looking for Star Channel (US) and Star Chinese Channel and the various other Star channels. That's not much of a case for WP:PRIMARYTOPIC status. —BarrelProof (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * A classic case of the problem with page views, is it not? Andrewa (talk) 21:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support Star Channel (US) was far more notable, and note also Star Channel (Japan) which "specializes in the provision of foreign movies to Japanese audiences via the diverse broadcasting venues of digital CS, BS, and cable television." In ictu oculi (talk) 23:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it was more notable, in the 1970s. That hardly matters to title determination 40 years later.  --В²C ☎ 18:00, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * It's enough to call into serious question the primary status of the Greek channel, and if that can't be established then the move should occur. Andrewa (talk) 21:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Support. No case for primary topic status of the Greek channel, see above. Andrewa (talk) 21:04, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

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