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User talk:Xyb

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Broken sorting on Comparison of web frameworks
Hi, when you made this series of edits to Comparison of web frameworks, it broke the sorting by date. Unfortunately no one spotted this at the time, and it's quite tedious to undo now. Please can you help restore the original templates, or, alternatively, find a way that does not break the functionality. Greenman (talk) 12:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your review User:Greenman, I have fixed the data format, please take a look. --Xyb (talk) 05:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks for fixing, looks good! Greenman (talk) 22:48, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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User talk:Rm

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Thanks for the welcome. If you want to bring something to my attention you can also drop me a note at the Dutch wikipedia where I am more frequently around then here. Cheers. Rm 09:33, 8 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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User talk:Hippietrail

es:Usuario Discusión:Hippietrail nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hippietrail

Hey there! Welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like this place--I sure do--and want to stay. If you need help on how to title new articles check out Naming conventions, and for help on formatting the pages visit the manual of style. If you need help look at Help and The FAQ, plus if you can't find your answer there, check The Village pump or The Reference Desk! Happy Thanksgiving! Alexandros

Hi there,

Er, just wanted to say hi. It's siobhan from over there at E2. I'm currently trying to get the powers that be over here to help me recover the siobhan account I created on here ages ago and promptly forgot my password to, and of course never gave an email addy. If they can't help me, I'll sign up as something else, I guess. And ping you here.

Hope all is going well what with travelling and all :)

Smiles, cj

Howdy. Great work on the Hebrew/Arabic/Cyrilic transliterations you've been busily adding. Are you some amazing polyglottal overman, or are you cut'n'pasting them from somewhere else? Either way, they're a super addition. -- Finlay McWalter 18:20, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Kinda both. I only speak English and dodgy Spanish but I'm interested in languages and writing systems and I did a lot of work finding the native ways to write many foreign terms that pop up in English over on Everything2 so I'm bringing them all over here since this site is so cool. Hippietrail 00:10, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * I have to confess to liking them, particularly the hebrew and arabic, mostly for their aesthetic appeal. Coincidentally, I'm curious why you elected to contribute to Wikipedia after your Everything2 experience.  Having only contributed here (and being aware of our shortcomings, but not of e2 or h2g2's) I'd be interested in how you find the contrast between the two. -- Finlay McWalter 00:39, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * I've also got Chinese, Japanese, and a bunch of miscellaneous stuff waiting. Then I'm hoping to do some Sanskrit stuff I just came across. I'd been using Everything since 1999 when it was still E1 and I like the community feel over there but every so often there's a schism and things get deleted or policies change or whatever. When E2 went offline for a month or so to move the server across the country I was doing a google search for "Linguaphile" which is a project of mine and discovered that somebody had made an article about it on Wikipedia. So even though I'd read a bunch of stuff on Wikipedia before I'd never delved into it. This time I wanted to edit the article and make a Spanish and a German version. I really like the way everybody perfects a single article here compared to E2's article-per-person. Though I like their way too - I'm glad there is a place that works each way. Hippietrail 01:02, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * We have server problems sometimes too (but a spanky new $6000 server seems to be improving things greatly). We also have a few (well, one, that I can think of) people who want to be the sole-owner of an article.  I restrain myself from telling that person "well, get thee to E2 or h2g2 then", as their contributions are generally excellent.  It does, I confess, take some "personal maturity" to accept some dude rewriting your magnum opus. -- Finlay McWalter 01:16, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

es:Usuario Discusión:Hippietrail nl:Overleg gebruiker:Hippietrail

- Please look at eo:Vikipediista diskuto:Hippietrail and fr:Discussion_Utilisateur:Hippietrail. Arno Lagrange 05:01, 16 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Thanks, you answered my question in your esperanto and french discussion pages. The esperanto wikipedia community may considere the arguments. I remember that I've seeen discussions in the french wikipedia whether put the languages links at the bottom or to let them at the top. I don't know if one reached any conclusion. I shall submit this discussion in the esperanto wikipedia and you will know.  Arno Lagrange  08:59, 17 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi, if you know the Bengali script for Bangladesh, can you add it there? --Jiang 12:12, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Thanks Jiang, I've added it (বাংলাদেশ). I hope it's correct. Hippietrail 12:18, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Great! Actually, the full name "People's Republic of Bangladesh" would be even better. --Jiang 12:22, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Sorry I don't have the long-form names in my collection ): Hippietrail 12:25, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Since you added the Hebrew and Arabic scripts to the Middle East, could you return and provide transliterations as well? The scripts don't mean much on their own. Adam 22:36, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Distinguishing accents in English
Thank you for your help. If your grandparents were native Australians, we may conclude /aI.t{l.j@n/ is not a regional pronunciation but perhaps a global (deliberate) mispronunciation. Pædia | talk 14:10, 2004 May 3 (UTC)

Thx for the fix. Obviously they arent separate languages, not a bit, it is an internet myth only. Cause most Brazilians and Portuguese dont think a bit in that. I talked today about that internet myth, people were astonished and started laughing. It's really incredible! -Pedro 14:09, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I've fixed the rest. -Pedro 14:41, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Use HTML entities
Nive work on List of Harry Potter chapter titles in other languages, but might I suggest you try using an HTML entity rather than each explicit character, which might help prevent this problem happening again? I would try myself but my Latvian is non-existant and I would probably end up making it even worse :-( I think it happens when someone edits the page with a browser which can't hndle the extended character, so any attempt to use those characters will only work until the next time that happens. --Phil | Talk 11:00, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)

Re-factor pages
I've been thinking about rearranging the articles so each of the books gets its own translation page. So we could have Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone in translation, or maybe you'd prefer Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (translations)? Then we could modify Template:Harrypotter to add an extra column. What do you think? --Phil | Talk 15:32, Sep 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * They badly need refactoring. I think having them split up by book is one good idea. Especially since each book introduces new interesting-to-translate words and phrases. It would even be really nice to put the page number where each term first occurs but there are so many different English editions. I think Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (translations) or may even Harry Potter in translation (Philosopher's Stone) — but I think I'm better at finding translations that refactoring Wikipedia articles myself. Thanks for the message. — Hippietrail 23:42, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I was meaning the book and chapter titles, not the various items. I agree about the page numbers: probably the chapter is sufficient. I'll see if I can get the time ... --Phil | Talk 13:06, Sep 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Take a look at Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone (translations) over the weekend and let me know what you think. --Phil | Talk 16:57, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * Looks good. It has reminded me of a few things I haven't liked in the articles while I've been working on them.
 * Non-latin scripts are even harder to read in Italics, and many scripts seldom use italics at all. I think it's better to leave the native script non-italicized and italicize the transliterations.
 * We should divide the Chinese by country or publisher rather than by script type. Using "Simplified" and "Traditional" implies that the words ought to be the same but they are not because the translators in Taiwan and in China worked independently.
 * Now I have to work. Have a good weekend. — Hippietrail 21:57, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 * I was wondering about an alternative approach. Take a quick look at this and tell me if you think I've gone completely mad (I was also wondering if I ought to have started in my user space in the first place :-) --Phil | Talk 07:49, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

Chennai
I discussed my edit (which you reverted) on Talk:Chennai, but didn't see a response, so I decided perhaps you're not watching that page. Would you care to respond there? I was thinking of reverting your revert, but wanted some input from you before. Thanks. Ambarish | Talk 05:13, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Okinawan language
Hi Hippietrail.

I saw your questions on Talk:Okinawan language and figured I'd answer them.

As to the writing of Okinawan... that question needs a very long answer.

A very very very long time ago, a script called 時双紙 (toki-kisoushi) was used in the Ryukyus. I'm not sure when it eventually fell out of use, but I think it was around 700 AD. One can still find books and documents written in it. I'm not sure if anybody knows what it means or not. I would assume it's been deciphered, but it's possible I'm wrong.

At around the same time, there was a similar writing system called 砂川双紙 (sunagawa-kisoushi) in use. I'm not sure how the two are different, but they're always referred to as different writing systems.

There is also evidence for other non-Chinese and non-Japanese writing systems, however most of it is in Yonaguni, Okinawa and Yaeyama; neither of them speak Okinawan but rather related languages (the former speaks "Yonaguni", the latter speaks "Yaeyama"). In Yaeyama, a script called "kaidaa-di" was used until perhaps the early 1800s, when it lost ground to Hiragana, Katakana, and (in most cases) illiteracy. There was also a script called "yaahan" used at the same time, however it wasn't really a script because it was only used for writing family seals. There are still small traces of "kaidaa-di" literacy in modern Yaeyama, however it is for the most part dead.

More intriguing, however, is the case of Yonaguni. Until as late as 1910, a related-but-not-quite-identical script called "kaidaa-zi" was known by everybody throught the island. There was also a script used for writing family seals, called "daahan". HOWEVER, in this case there is still alive today a woman who was taught the script by her father. She is the curator of the island's ethnographic museum.

In addition to these two scripts, there is evidence of a third script on Yonaguni, called "sanninnudai". It is known only from one inscription (located at a place called "sanninnudai"), and remains completely undeciphered. It's believed to be much older than kaidaa-zi or daahan.

There's more to this, however: recently, divers discovered a man-made structure on the ocean floor right off of Yonaguni. There are a couple of pyramids, as well as stairs and other structures. Little is known about them, except that they are considered to be impossible because all evidence indicates they were built less than 5000 years ago, but the last time the water level was low enough for those structures to not be underwater was over 10000 years ago. What does this have to do with kaidaa-zi? On a stone which some believe "marks the entrance to the monument", there are inscribed two characters, resembling very very closely two kaidaa-zi, one meaning "male horse" and the other meaning "male goat".

This has led some to believe that kaidaa-zi are actually much more ancient than was previously postulated.

Also, it's generally accepted that at one time, kaidaa-zi were in use throught the Ryukyus, including the island of Okinawa (they're believed to be named after a district of the island named "kaiya")

There is also evidence of another script used for religious writings in Okinawa, but I don't know what it's called.

Anyhow, on to more modern times. As the ancient scripts were gradually phased out, they were replaced with Hiragana (and at times katakana). On the main island, most people were literate in Hiragana in the classical period, and many short inscriptions in classical Okinawan can be found on rocks.

The usage of Hiragana/Katakana for Okinawan is slightly different than for that of Japanese. The sequence "ta-u" is to be read as "to-o", the sequence "ha-u" is to be read as "ho-o" (the same rule can be applied to any "?a-u" sequence). Similarly, "ta-i" is to be read as "te-e", "ha-i" is to be read as "he-e" (and so on and so forth). The same rules apply to "?a-o" as to "?a-u", and the same rules apply to "?a-e" as to "?a-i".

Many a time, what would be read in Japanese as "e" is read as "i", and what would be read in Japanese as "o" is read as "u".

In modern times, usage varies between the system I just described and a system resembling that used for modern Japanese (with some modifications for syllables not existing in Japanese).

Best wishes, Node

WikiProject Sydney
Want to join? I'm still formulating policy. Incidently, there is a message board Australian wikipedians' notice board - Ta bu shi da yu 06:09, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
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Latin language
Hey Hippietrail, would you be willing to cast a vote at Requested moves in re the Latin move? —Tkinias 02:17, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Genders in Dutch
Hi Hippietrail,

You are right. Dutch has three genders. It was me who told you on Wiktionary. Thanks for showing me the article where this info was erroneously added. Polyglot 16:24, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Review request
Hi :) If you have a few minutes it be great if you could have a look at West Papua and the re-name proposal at the bottom of its discussion page. Any input, edits, or opinions be great. I've always tried to ensure there was an abundance of supporting evidence before adding content, and avoid emotive wording; I welcome different opinions, just wish they would explain what it is they disagree with. All Best :)Daeron 17:26, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

RfD tag
Hi, I found an {RfD] tag on Pronunciation (simple guide to markup, American); however, it's not a redirect, so an RfD tag is not appropriate, so I deleted the RfD tag. (And in any event, you needed to list it on WP:RfD, not just add the tag.) Perhaps you wanted WP:VfD, or WP:SD? Noel (talk) 19:29, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * Nothing shows in the history because an admin just deleted it, then plopped down a new redirect! Here's the old history:

 * 19:30, 25 Jan 2005 . . Jnc (Not a redirect; {rfd} tag is not appropriate)
 * 04:10, 26 Nov 2004 . . Hippietrail (rfd: there is nothing to this article and it has no history)
 * 09:46, 22 Nov 2004 . . 61.246.221.28
 * 15:03, 6 Nov 2004 . . Ta bu shi da yu (Pronunciation (simple guide to markup, American) moved to Wikipedia:Pronunciation (simple guide to markup, American))

 * Not a big deal, I just wanted to let you now that I wasn't horribly confused when I said you'd added the {RfD} tag! Noel (talk) 12:58, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Help needed
Hi Hippietrail, I find that you are interested in language-related articles. If you have some time, can you suggest a good format for the gloss that I did on your request here? I'm planning to format it and add it to the article itself under the Examples section. This would take the article one step closer to featured-quality. -- Sundar 09:11, Feb 15, 2005 (UTC)

Preferred evolutionary direction
Hippie --

In Agglutinative language you wrote:
 * there seems to exist a preferred evolutionary direction from agglutinative synthetic languages to fusional synthetic languages, and then to non-synthetic languages, which in their turn evolve again into agglutinative synthetic languages.

This is fascinating to me since I've been hoping to write a master's thesis on a similar topic. Do you have a source for this evolutionary observation? Do you know any more about it?

Steverapaport 23:53, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * It is pretty interesting but I'm afraid you've attributed that statement to me in error. I have recently added the page to a category but I'm not the one who added the text which interests you. By browsing through the edit history I see that it was added at 11:18, 6 Aug 2004 by User:Danakil. I hope you find the answers you're looking for there. — Hippietrail 11:14, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the re-reference, I'll have to check those edit histories more carefully next time... Steverapaport

Z-variant
I just started a new article Z-variant that you requested. It's just what I've gleaned from online reading, so it may not stand up to scrutiny. :) But it gives a few examples and so on. --Quuxplusone 22:53, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

Aan het
See Talk:Dutch_grammar. Feel free to ask further questions. Sixtus 20:51, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

History of Spanish orthography
Hi, Hippietrail. I hadn't noticed your comments on the evolution of Spanish spelling and the successive standardization attempts. How fluent is your Spanish? I don't have time to write at length on the subject right now, but this site carries a succint and substantially correct chronology that might be useful. Far more fun to read is the prolonged and well-informed rant at http://www.lapaginadefinitiva.com/politica/peun/6.htm, but it carries less information and is throughly colloquial, which greatly diminishes its usefulness to anyone but a native speaker of Castilian Spanish (I have a hard time of it myself, being Argentinian). This PDF at the Cervantes Center virtual library yields some more information about the Golden Century linguists.

Hope you find this useful. Best, Taragüí @ 15:34, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Hi, Hippietrail. I also recommend you the entry for Antonio de Nebrija, who was the first creator of a Spanish grammar. Actually, the first one to make a Romance language grammar. Before that, the Spanish language was unruled and unofficial, and after that succeeded Latin as official language in Spain. Later, the final regulation for Spanish language came from the Real Academia Española, the institution responsible of regulating Spanish language in Spain, together with many other national language academies in every Spanish-speaking country. The Real Academia practically "froze" Spanish language in a somehow 18th-century grammar with minimal changes. Despite of that, it's possible for a native speaker to understand every written text in Spanish from 14th century and later.

 * I hope this info to be useful to you. Cheers and visit us soon! OrlandoSM discuss

Taino
The Taino article is up for peer-review. Go help out if you can. --MateoP 23:33, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:MalayalamScript
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Universidades y Colegios
I would like to invite you to check out the userboxes that I have created in Wikipedia! If your Collge/University is not there feel free to make create one or let me known and I'll make it (User: Lufthmark)

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Lois Hamilton Article
Hello,

I just got finished editing the Lois Hamilton Article. After I saved the page for the final time I looked at the History Page - Good Grief! It seems you did a great job on the Article on February 22, and then someone came along and all but destroyed it. I'm still learning some of the finer points of editing Wiki. How about taking a look at the Article and its History and see what would be the easiest way to combine our edits.

Regards,

 * Michael David 21:12, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Sorry Michael, I actually know nothing about Lois Hamilton but at one point I was interested in writers who committed suicide, found her name on a list, and added her article to the appropriate category. All the information that was vandalised was added by other editors before me. I think the best you can do is to look at what was deleted and add it back in now that the rest of the article has changed. Good luck! — Hippietrail 01:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Hippietrail (Great name! - Great trail! - been there!): Ok. I'll do what I can. Thanks for your response.

 * Michael David 01:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Copy editing
I just noticed that last night I accidentally reverted your edits in Frisian language edit history However I stand my revert. To me, it does not sound like idiomatic English to use language twice in one sentence the way you suggest. If you care to revert again I will let it stand. --82.152.97.125 08:37, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

 * No you did the right thing. My copyedit was only to remove an extraneous comma. I didn't notice the double use of the word "language" as I was only quickly scanning while looking for something else. Thanks for letting me know. — Hippietrail 02:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Open Source Speech Synthesis Projects
Hi Hippietrail

I noticed that you were enquring about Open Source Speech Synthesis Projects. I develop a project called Text2Speech which runs on Windows and uses SAPI5 to convert Text To Speech. The link is http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/text2speech

Bobbo

Two wiktionary coding projects?
Sounds like a duplication of effort, can we cooperate? --Kim Bruning 19:43, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Absolutely. Where can I read more? I'm often on IRC #wiktionary by the way. — Hippietrail 05:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of David Toscana
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Margaret Jull Costa
Please look at Margaret's page. In the Discussion box you will see I have provided an authoritative answer to your query about her name. Incidentally, do try to get hold of a copy of her latest book for Dedalus, Helena, or The Sea in Summer by Spanish author Julian Ayesta - a total delight and another masterpiece of translation. She is a literary marvel.

Best wishes John Thaxter (talk) 07:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Brumbies and Mustangs
Hi Hippietrail,

Just wanted to let you know why I tossed your see alsos cross-referencing Brumby and Mustang. It's not that I personally disagree with you, as it is true that there are a lot of similarities. (Though also a lot of differences, including ancestral stock) They once did cross-link each other, but then people started adding almost every other type of feral horse out there until the lists were unwieldy and a mess, to boot. By creating the article feral horse, where they are ALL listed, and then putting that in the see also sections, we eliminated an ever-growing laundry list. I didn't want you to think I just reverted you on a whim, there was a real reason for it! And I liked your good edit summary that explained your thinking. Hope this all makes sense (smile). Montanabw (talk) 02:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

rollback
Hi, I have granted you rollback. Note that English Wikipedians get a bit antsy if you use it for anything besides vandalism. Regards, John Vandenberg (chat) 22:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

 * Ta mate. — Hippietrail (talk) 09:45, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
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info boxes
Hi Hippietrail!

Not sure if you're still around. If you are, would you mind repeating this? This time with the names of the articles that have unsupported field. I'd like to clean that up. Or maybe tell me how to do it.

Another common issue: field fam(n), when there is no fam(n–1), for n > 2. When that happens, fam(n) and up do not display. (Not a problem for child(n).)

Same concern w fam(n) for Infobox language. I've come across quite a few of these, but since they're not visible, I'm sure there are dozens more.

Thanks, — kwami (talk) 06:22, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

 * Well I'm kinda around but I'm travelling around the world for the next uncertain number of months and not doing a lot of wikistuff at present. A lot of my infobox stuff was fully automated run once per day by cron on the toolserver. But when they moved from Linux to Solaris they stopped using cron and I had so many things on my todo list that I never learned the new system.

 * The code is all open source though so if you can code or can get somebody who can code to tweak it then please go right ahead. Search for "hippietrail" on the toolserver and follow links until you see stuff with "infobox" in it and you'll find it. Best of luck to you! — Hippietrail (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Article Feedback deployment
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Rmdir

In computing,   (or  ) is a command which will remove an empty directory on various operating systems.

Implementations
The command is available in Unix (e.g. macOS, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX), Unix-like (e.g. FreeBSD, Linux), DOS, Digital Research FlexOS, IBM OS/2, Microsoft Windows or ReactOS operating systems. On MS-DOS, the command is available in versions 2 and later. DR DOS 6.0 also includes an implementation of the rmdir command.

It is also available in the open source MS-DOS emulator DOSBox and in KolibriOS. The numerical computing environments MATLAB and GNU Octave include an  function with similar functionality.

Unix, Unix-like
Normal usage is straightforward:

where name_of_directory corresponds with the name of the directory one wishes to delete. There are options to this command such as -p in Unix which removes parent directories if they are also empty.

For example:

will first remove baz/, then bar/ and finally foo/ thus removing the entire directory tree specified in the command argument.

rmdir will not remove a directory if it is not empty in UNIX. The rm command will remove a directory and all its contents recursively. For example:

DOS, OS/2, Windows, ReactOS
Normal usage is identical to Unix-like operating systems:

The equivalent command in MS-DOS and earlier (non-NT-based) versions of Microsoft Windows for deleting non-empty directories is deltree.

In later version of Windows:

Windows based on the NT kernel (XP, Vista, 7, 8, Server 2003/2008) are case insensitive, just like their earlier predecessors, unless two files of the same name and different case exist. Then case sensitivity applies when selecting which file to use, or if the case does not match either file, one may be chosen by Windows.

Having two files named the same with different case sensitivity is allowed either when Windows Services for Unix is installed or when the Windows Registry settings are set to allow it.

An example of the security risk is:

Using rd/rmdir and two directories with the same name and different case sensitivities exist, one of which contains valid data and/or programs, and the other contains incriminating materials and/or malware. If rd/rmdir gets executed without regard to case sensitivity and Windows chooses the legitimate folder to delete, the only folder left is the undesired one. Windows then uses this folder instead of the previously legitimate one to execute programs, and one may be led to believe it contains legitimate data.

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Paul Shane

Paul Shane (born George Frederick Speight; 19 June 1940 – 16 May 2013) was a British actor and comedian. He was known for his television work, in particular playing Ted Bovis in Hi-de-Hi!, a 1980s BBC sitcom.

Early life
Shane was born on 19 June 1940 in Thrybergh, near Rotherham, in the West Riding of Yorkshire. After leaving school in 1955, he was a miner at Silverwood Colliery until he suffered double herniated discs after slipping on soap in the pithead baths in 1967, being pensioned from the coal mines as a result. Two years later he became a professional entertainer. He already had ten years' experience as a part-time entertainer in pubs and clubs in south Yorkshire.

Career
Shane's first appearance, as a singer, was at the Grafton pub — now demolished — in St Ann's Road, Rotherham. His first club booking was at St Ann's Club in Rotherham, for 30 shillings. His transformation from singer to comedian was gradual, starting with his version of "Green, Green Grass of Home", which was straight at first, but ultimately became a send-up of the version by Tom Jones.

Shane played small parts and made guest appearances in television series throughout the 1970s. In May 1979, the comedy writer Jimmy Perry spotted Shane playing Frank Roper in an episode of Coronation Street and offered him the part of Ted Bovis in his new holiday-camp sitcom Hi-de-Hi!. The series ran from 1980 until 1988, when Perry and his co-writer David Croft wrote the pilot of You Rang, M'Lord? and invited Shane to play Alf Stokes. That show ran until 1993.

In 1991, Shane was given his own show, Very Big Very Soon, which ran for one series.

Shane's performance of "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" on Pebble Mill at One in 1996 was voted the 72nd-funniest moment on British television in an opinion poll on Channel 4 in 2004.

Between 1995 and 1997, Shane played Jack Skinner in two series of Oh, Doctor Beeching!. Subsequently, he appeared most frequently in theatre, though he also had guest spots in Holby City and Emmerdale.

Shane also appeared in variety theatre in towns including Blackpool in 2006, and in pantomime in Jack and the Beanstalk in 2008. In 2008, he was in an episode of the ITV drama series A Touch of Frost, playing boatsman "Diesel Bob". He was the subject of This Is Your Life in 1981, when he was surprised by Eamonn Andrews in London's Covent Garden.

Personal life
Shane was married to Dorothy Shortt (Born 28 February 1943) from 1961 until her death on 4 April 2001 aged 58. They had three daughters.

On 1 April 1984, he was inducted into the Grand Order of Water Rats.

In May 2009, Shane was admitted to the Northern General Hospital in Sheffield for heart surgery and made a full recovery.

Following another short period of ill-health, he died on 16 May 2013 in a Rotherham hospice, aged 72. His three daughters and six grandchildren survived him. His funeral was held on 31 May 2013 at Rotherham Minster.

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Charmides (dialogue)

The Charmides (Χαρμίδης) is a dialogue of Plato, in which Socrates engages a handsome and popular boy named Charmides in a conversation about the meaning of sophrosyne, a Greek word usually translated into English as "temperance," "self-control," or "restraint." When the boy is unable to satisfy him with an answer, he next turns to the boy's mentor Critias. In the dialogue, Charmides and then later Critias champion that Temperance is "doing one's own work" but Socrates derides this as vague. The definition given next of "knowing oneself" seems promising but the question is then raised if something can even have the knowledge of itself as a base. As is typical with Platonic early dialogues, the two never arrive at a completely satisfactory definition, but the discussion nevertheless raises many important points. The Charmides is one of Plato's most homoerotic dialogues. Socrates admires Charmides' beauty at the beginning of the dialogue, saying "I saw inside his cloak and caught on fire and was quite beside myself."

Characters

 * Socrates the Athenian philosopher
 * Charmides, the son of Dropidas, a handsome young boy and wrestler famed for his beauty and temperance
 * Critias, Charmides' uncle and the most cruel and bloodthirsty of the Thirty Tyrants. His connection to Socrates was one of the main charges of scandal against him in the Apology. This dialogue ultimately tests his views of temperance.
 * Chaerephon, enthusiastic friend of Socrates and jokingly described as "a kind of madman"

Setting
Socrates narrates the dialogue, and says that he has just returned from a battle at Potidaea, a city besieged and conquered by the Athenians at the beginning of the Peloponnesian War. Socrates says that, shortly after returning home, he again sought out his habitual conversations by heading to the palaestra of Taureas, a wrestling school where boys gathered. With the help of Chaerephon, who pushes him for details about the battle, he finds his way to Critias and asks him about affairs at home, the present state of philosophy, and whether any of the boys had distinguished himself for wisdom or beauty, or both. Critias answers that Socrates will soon get to know the beauties firsthand, for Charmides and his entourage have just arrived.

Critias tells Socrates that Charmides is his cousin, son of his uncle Glaucon. Chaerephon rushes over and asks Socrates if the boy is not beautiful, and Socrates agrees with a poetic quote from Cydias. Chaerephon says suggestively that if Socrates could see his naked form, he would forget all about his handsome face. Socrates says all this will be good and well if the boy also has a noble soul. Socrates tells Critias that before they look at his body, they will ask the boy to strip and show them his soul.

Charmides was Plato's uncle, his mother's brother. Critias, Socrates' other interlocutor, was Charmides' first cousin, making Plato Critias' first cousin once removed. Both Critias and Charmides went on to become important members of the Thirty Tyrants, the short-lived oligarchic regime that was established following Athenian defeat in the Peloponnesian War in 404 BCE, making the question of their sophrosyne, or moderation, alternatively ironic or pressing.

This is generally considered one of Plato's earlier dialogues based on analysis of his writing and the fact that it ends in aporia. Some critics like Johann Gottfried Stallbaum traced the dialogue back to the period before the Thirty Tyrants' reign of tyranny over Athens, around 405 BC, while the majority bring it back much later, around 388, after the death of Socrates.

Struggle to define
Socrates tells Critias that there would be no shame in his just talking to the beautiful and popular boy, even if he were younger than he is. Socrates informs the reader that Critias is the child's guardian or caretaker (ἐπίτροπος, literally "one to whom the charge of anything is entrusted") (155a). Critias agrees and tells an attendant to tell Charmides to come and see the physician ("iatros") about an illness that Charmides has complained about. Critias suggests that Socrates pretend to know a cure for a headache to lure the boy over.

Charmides approaches and tells Socrates about his ailment. Socrates responds that he can find a cure he heard of from Zalmoxis but in order for the cure to work, the patient must have a good soul and possess temperance. Charmides is ashamed to reply that he has temperance as he feels it will make him look vain. Socrates asks him that first instead of answering if he has it that maybe they should provide a definition of what it is exactly. That way they can have a metric to judge the character of Charmides' temperance with.

Charmides first suggests that sophrosyne is a kind of quietness or slowness (159b). Socrates talks him out of this because quickness, energetic attitude and agility are more useful to learning than quietness or slowness. Next Charmides proposes that sophrosyne is the same as modesty. Socrates says this can't be right because Homer (whose authority they both accept on this point) says that modesty is not good for all people, but it is agreed that sophrosyne is (160e). Charmides proposes that temperance is minding your own business. Socrates finds this particularly offensive, and tells Charmides that he must have heard this from some fool (162b). Socrates can tell from the uneasy look on Critias face that this was his idea, and they exchange some words. Critias accuses Charmides of misrepresenting him. Socrates says to him testily that at his age, Charmides can hardly be expected to understand temperance (162e). At this point in the argument, Critias takes up the argument with Socrates suggesting that temperance might be the same as self-knowledge. Socrates confesses as they discuss this that his motive in refuting Critias is to examine himself, that he pursues the argument for his own sake (166c-d).

Critias says that "to work" and "to make" are two completely different things and this is the basis for Socrates misunderstanding him. Critias quotes the authority of Hesiod who said "no work is dishonorable." He says that you have to use context and the quote clearly means noble professions such as shoemaking and not ignoble ones such as prostitution. He says that Hesiod would agree with him that anyone who is good and follows his noble profession is temperate. Socrates responds by asking if those who do good always know they are doing good. Critias says temperate men can not be ignorant of their own temperance and Socrates rebukes him by mentioning that doctors or physicians can sometimes do good to both themselves and others without even knowing it. This definition is then discarded.

Critias next suggests temperance is self-knowledge. Socrates asks what product this knowledge makes and Critias says not all knowledge creates a product. Socrates finds this answer unreasonable. Critias' suggestion that sophrosyne is self-knowledge spurs Socrates to a discussion of the relation between medicine and science. He says that medicine is the science of health and disease, and that a person who does not understand these things is not in a position to distinguish a real physician from a quack (171c). He says that if wisdom is the science of knowing what you know and knowing what you don't know, no one would ever make a mistake, and we would pass through life without erring. He concludes that this does not happen, therefore this definition of wisdom is inaccurate.

Socrates asks Critias what type of knowledge wisdom is. He suggests a prophet or sooth-sayer and Critias agrees. Socrates asks him by what knowledge do these people become wise. Is it the knowledge of fortune games? or of health? Critias responds in the negative and concludes to him it's "the knowledge of good and evil." Socrates likes this answer and says that knowledge of other things like health are useless unless you understand good from evil.

Socrates says he dreams, however, of a world in which no one pretends to be something he is not (173a-d). In the end, Socrates appears to have recruited a new disciple to philosophy: Charmides says he is willing to be charmed every day by Socrates, and Critias tells the boy that if he is willing to do this, he will have proof of his temperance. Charmides says that if his guardian instructs him to submit to Socrates' charms, then he would be wrong not to do it.

Socrates' analogy, that ignorance is to the philosopher what disease is to the physician, is important and persistent in the dialogues. And everywhere, Socrates fails to effect a cure. In the Protagoras, for example, when the sophist Prodicus accuses Socrates of making a mess of their discussion, Socrates accepts the complaint and calls himself a laughable doctor (geloios iatros), whose treatment not only does not cure the disease, it worsens it (Protagoras 340e).

A variation on the medical theme is in the Theaetetus, where Socrates compares himself to a midwife who helps boys and men give birth to their ideas. He says there that he (never having conceived of a viable idea himself) is barren, and has frequently had to commit the intellectual equivalent of infanticide (Theaetetus 160e).

Texts and translations

 * The Internet Classics Archive
 * Thomas Taylor, 1804
 * Benjamin Jowett, 1870: full text
 * Walter Rangeley Maitland Lamb, 1927: online
 * Rosamond Kent Sprague, 1973
 * Thomas G. West and Grace Starry West, 1986
 * Rosamond Kent Sprague, 1973
 * Thomas G. West and Grace Starry West, 1986

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John Stephens

John Stephens may refer to:

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 * John Legend (John Stephens, born 1978), American musician
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Politicians

 * John Stephens (MP for Bristol), MP for Bristol (UK Parliament constituency), 1391–1393
 * John Stephens (MP for Hythe) (fl.1571)
 * John Hall Stephens (1847–1924), U.S. Representative from Texas
 * John Stephens (English politician) (1622–1679), English MP for Bristol, 1660
 * John W. Stephens (1834–1870), state senator from North Carolina
 * John Stephens (Illinois politician), coroner of Cook County

Sports

 * John Stephens (American football) (1966–2009), American football player
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Charles Fremantle

Admiral Sir Charles Howe Fremantle GCB (1 June 1800 – 25 May 1869) was a British Royal Navy officer. The city of Fremantle, Western Australia, is named after him.

Early life
Fremantle was the second son of Thomas Fremantle, an associate of Horatio Nelson, and of Fremantle's wife Elizabeth, the diarist. His middle name, Howe, is derived from his date of birth: the anniversary of Lord Howe's victory over the French on the Glorious First of June, 1794.

Career
Fremantle joined the Royal Navy in 1812 and worked his way up the ranks on a number of vessels. From 1818 to 1819 he served on his father's flagship in the Mediterranean Fleet.

In 1824 Fremantle received the first gold gallantry medal of the new Royal National Institution for the Preservation of Life from Shipwreck, later the Royal National Lifeboat Institution, for an attempted rescue at Whitepit near Christchurch, Dorset.

In April 1826 Fremantle was charged with raping a 15-year-old girl. His family is said to have paid off witnesses and leant on the judiciary to avoid scandal.

Swan River Colony
In August 1826 Fremantle was promoted to captain and in 1828 took command of the 26-gun frigate HMS Challenger (1826), and sent to claim the west coast of Australia for the United Kingdom. Challenger was dispatched by the Admiralty from the Cape of Good Hope on 20 March 1829, anchored in Cockburn Sound on 27 April and landed on Garden Island the next day. On 2 May he hoisted the British flag on the south head of the mouth of the Swan River and took formal possession in the name of His Majesty King George IV of "all that part of New Holland (Australia) which is not included within the territory of New South Wales."

The appointed Lieutenant Governor James Stirling arrived in Cockburn Sound, Western Australia, on 2 June, aboard the hired transport barque Parmelia. He brought his family and other intending settlers, numbering 69, to found a colony at the Swan River. On 8 June they were joined by a military detachment of some 56 officers and men who disembarked from the consort ship HMS Sulphur (1826). On 17 June, a proxy proclamation was read by Stirling confirming Fremantle's earlier one. These immigrants, along with Frederick Town, the semi-exclave military outpost of New South Wales established two years earlier, began the history of Western Australia as a British colony, then as a state of federal Australia.

Trincomalee
Fremantle left the Swan River Colony on 28 August 1829, heading for the British base at Trincomalee, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka), where he was based for a couple of years. While there he visited many locations, including Kowloon in China, which he recommended as a good site for a British settlement. The British government agreed and Hong Kong Island was settled in 1841.

On his way back to England from Ceylon, Fremantle in September 1832 visited the Swan River Colony for a week, but never returned. In 1833 he stopped at Pitcairn Island, where he tried to resolve a leadership dispute between Joshua Hill and George Hunn Nobbs. He was given command of HMS Inconstant (1836) in the Mediterranean Fleet in 1843 and of HMS Albion (1842), also in the Mediterranean, in 1847. Then in 1853 he became Captain of HMS Juno (1844) on the Australia Station.

Balaclava
Fremantle served as Rear-Admiral controlling the naval transport service from Balaclava during the Crimean War. He went on to be Commander-in-Chief of the Channel Squadron in July 1858 and Commander-in-Chief, Plymouth in 1863.

Family life
Fremantle married Isabella Wedderburn on 8 October 1836. They had three children:
 * Emily Caroline Alexander (14 April 1838 – 10 February 1929), who married Reverend C. L. Alexander, Rector of Sturton-by-Bridge, Derbyshire
 * Celia Elizabeth McNeil (8 October 1840 – 15 February 1929), who married Canon E. A. McNeile, Vicar of St Paul's, Princes Park, Liverpool
 * Louisa Frances Fremantle (23 February 1843 – 20 March 1909)

Fremantle died in 1869 and is buried in Brompton Cemetery, London. The grave lies against the east wall, near a more prominent monument to the politician David Lyon.

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