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Ian Paice

Ian Anderson Paice (born 29 June 1948) is an English musician who is the drummer and last remaining original member of the rock band Deep Purple. He remains the only member of Deep Purple who has served in every line-up since the band's inception in 1968, as well as having played on every album and at every live appearance. He was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a member of Deep Purple in 2016.

Aside from Deep Purple, he was also a member of a number of projects that also involved other Deep Purple members, including Whitesnake (also featuring Jon Lord and David Coverdale, both of Deep Purple), and Paice Ashton Lord (also featuring Jon Lord). He also played drums backing other musicians, including Gary Moore, the Velvet Underground, Paul McCartney, and George Harrison.

The early years
Born in Nottingham before moving south in early childhood, Paice got his first drum kit at 15. He began his professional career in the early 1960s playing drums in his father's dance band. The first band he was in was called Georgie & the Rave-Ons, which after being renamed the Shindigs released their first single featuring the 17-year-old Paice and George Adams.

In 1966 Paice joined the MI5, which soon changed its name to the Maze. Primarily a club band, the Maze produced a number of singles, recorded mainly in Italy and France.

Deep Purple
The Maze featured vocalist Rod Evans, who alongside Paice was to form the original line-up of Deep Purple in March 1968. Evans had responded to an ad for a lead singer published by Deep Purple management, and showed up for his audition with Ian Paice in tow. Given that Deep Purple's first choice as drummer, Bobby Woodman, had expressed dislike for the band's musical direction, the group hastily arranged an audition for Paice, with guitarist Ritchie Blackmore leading the charge. Blackmore in interviews years later stated: "I had looked for Ian Paice for about a year after seeing him perform in Hamburg. He's an incredible drummer. And he was the motor of the band". Paice is the last remaining original Deep Purple member in the band in the present day.

Whitesnake
Deep Purple split up in 1976 and eventually reformed in 1984. During the split, Paice formed a new group, Paice Ashton Lord in 1976. The band, also comprising singer/pianist Tony Ashton, Deep Purple organist Jon Lord, guitarist/vocalist Bernie Marsden and bassist Paul Martinez, recorded one album (Malice in Wonderland) and played only five live shows. Paice Ashton Lord were put on hold in 1977, halfway through recording the group's second album. They subsequently broke up, allegedly because Tony Ashton only felt at home playing live shows in little clubs.

In August 1979, Paice was asked by David Coverdale to join Whitesnake on the Japanese tour for the Lovehunter album. He stayed with the band for almost three years. He appeared on the Whitesnake albums Ready an' Willing (1980), Live...in the Heart of the City (1980), Come an' Get It (1981) and Saints & Sinners (1982).

This incarnation of Whitesnake featured David Coverdale and Jon Lord, which meant three members of the Mark III and IV line-ups of Deep Purple were in Whitesnake during this period. Following musical differences with David Coverdale, Paice left Whitesnake in January 1982.

Gary Moore Band
In 1982, Paice joined Gary Moore for an album that turned into Corridors of Power. Moore's manager subsequently came up with the idea of Moore and Paice putting a band together under Moore's name, so that his management would take the business side of the project with Paice having a sizeable interest in the band. The collaboration turned out to be a successful one and produced a couple of albums and extensive tours. Paice left Moore's band in April 1984 when the reformed Deep Purple reconvened, and he remains in Deep Purple to the present day.

Notable collaborations
Paice played drums on the Velvet Underground's final album Squeeze, which was released in 1973. At that point, the band only consisted of singer and multi-instrumentalist Doug Yule (all of the other members, including Lou Reed, had either left or been fired by their manager), and the album was poorly received and quickly fell into obscurity.

In 1973, Paice was among English rock musicians invited by Eddie Harris, an American jazz player, to take part in the saxophonist's London sessions at Morgan Studios. Paice played on two songs: "He's Island Man" and "I've Tried Everything" along with Jeff Beck, Steve Winwood and Rick Grech. The album, called E.H. in the U.K. – The Eddie Harris London Sessions, produced by Geoffrey Haslam, was released the next year thru Atlantic Records.

In 1983, Paice took part in one of the first tribute recordings by symphonic orchestra paid to a rock band. Arrested – The Music of Police was a joint venture by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by Don Airey and assembled rock musicians (other artists involved included Neil Murray, Graham Bonnet, Chris Thompson, Gary Moore, Roy Wood, Keth Airey and Raff Ravenscroft). The sessions took place mainly in London, primarily at Abbey Road Studios, but also in Los Angeles.

In July 1989, Paice took part in George Harrison's recording session at Friar Park, which resulted in three songs "Cheer Down", "Cockamamie Business" and "Poor Little Girl", which also featured Jeff Lynne, Jim Horn and Richard Tandy among others. The songs were recorded for the compilation album Best of Dark Horse 1976-1989, released in October the same year. The purpose of this album was to close Harrison's contractual obligations to Warner Brothers. "Cheer Down" was also released on the Lethal Weapon 2 (1989) soundtrack album.

In March 1999, Paice joined Paul McCartney at Abbey Road Studios for the recording of Run Devil Run, released in October that year. The line-up also featured Pink Floyd's David Gilmour and The Pirates' Mick Green. Paice also joined the album's line-up at three one-off performances in September and December 1999, including a show at the famous Cavern Club. Steve Morse said of Paice: "He's like a real heavy Ringo. He's just so good on the drums, but doesn't want to make a big deal about it."

In 2001, Paice guested on Jim Capaldi's album Living on the Outside. He played on a 1960s-style rock-and-roll song, "Anna Julia", and the guitar-driven "We're Not Alone". "Anna Julia", which was also released as a single and turned out a considerable hit, also features George Harrison and Paul Weller.

Paice has worked on numerous occasions with former Spencer Davis Group drummer, Pete York. In December 2001 the two played a low key club tour of Germany, playing two drums on one stage, supported by Colin Hodgkinson (bass) and Miller Anderson (guitar, vocals). Apart from the regular setlist consisting of songs from York's and Paice's back catalogue, the shows featured impromptu drumming demonstrations and Q&A sessions.

Paice often joins Italian guitarist Tolo Marton, with whom he has performed on many occasions over the last decade, on stage. Marton's live album Dal Vero features Paice on the Jimi Hendrix songs "Stone Free" and "Hey Joe". Since 2005, he has also been involved in Moonstone Project led by Italian guitarist Matteo Filippini. The band performs regularly, mainly in Italy; they have also released two studio albums on which Paice has guested. Time to Take a Stand, released in 2006, featured two songs featuring both Paice and Glenn Hughes, performing together for the first time since 1976.

The list of Paice's declared admirers includes Red Hot Chili Peppers' Chad Smith. On 21 June 2004 Smith and Paice joined forces at the launch of the London Drum Company. The next year they also played together at the Modern Drummer Festival at New Jersey Performing Arts Center. Both performances were released on DVD.

In mid-2011, Paice took part in the all-star recording of William Shatner's Seeking Major Tom, the actor's fourth album, a collection of space-themed cover songs. Paice plays on a rendition of Deep Purple's "Space Truckin'" alongside Johnny Winter. The album also features former Deep Purple guitarist Ritchie Blackmore.

Special performances/charity activities
On 19 June 1992, Paice was among guest musicians performing at the Leukaemia Research charity concert in Oxford. The concert featured members of Bad Company and Procol Harum as well as Gary Moore and Tony Ashton.

On 20 October 1992 in New York, Paice played at the John Bonham Tribute alongside Jason Bonham, Tommy Aldridge, Denny Carmassi, and Frankie Banali among others. Paice performed "The Rover" from the Led Zeppelin album Physical Graffiti.

Paice joined Tony Ashton at two performances at the Hell Blues Festival on 10 and 11 September 1999 in Norway. The band also featured Paul Martinez on bass, who had played alongside Ashton and Paice in Paice Ashton Lord in 1976/1977. The group was, however, billed as Tony Ashton & Legendary Friends.

Paice entertained more than 1000 people at a special charity concert in Reading on 13 January 2006. This highly successful event, which raised over £7000, was organised by Chris Wright, MD of DrumWright. The show was organised in aid of Tong-Len, which supports primary education for highly deprived children in Northern India.

On 31 March and 1 April 2006, Paice joined Don Airey, Thomas Blug and Thijs van Leer at impromptu performances held during the ProLight+Sound fair in Frankfurt, Germany. The show included songs from the highly acclaimed Billy Cobham album Spectrum as well as songs by Deep Purple and Focus.

Since 2006, Paice has also been involved in The Sunflower Jam, a London-based charity founded by his wife Jacky Paice and also involving actor Jeremy Irons. Paice is usually featured as a member of the SunflowerJam house band. He has performed there with likes of Robert Plant, Brian May, John Paul Jones, Gary Moore and Bruce Dickinson.

On 2 March 2007, Paice held a drum clinic organised by the University of Glamorgan. The show was organised in partnership with ATRiuM the University's Cardiff School of Creative & Cultural Industries. Commenting after the show Paice said: "ATRiuM will be a great place for young musicians to learn their craft, not to mention all the other things they’ve got going on there. This drum clinic of mine will hopefully demonstrate that drummers are also musicians, despite the jokes!".

On 13 January 2008, Paice took part in the ChildLine Rocks charity concert in London, where he played live with former Deep Purple bassist Glenn Hughes for the first time since 1976.

On 24 May 2008, Paice participated in "Rock Legends Adventure" concert in Cologne, Germany. He joined an all-stars line-up featuring Pete York, Leland Sklar, Steve Lukather, Bobby Kimball and John Miles among others. Paice played on 10 of 32 songs performed that night, including The Kinks' "You Really Got Me", The Beatles' "I Saw Her Standing There" and "Come Together", Allman Brothers Band's "One Way Out", Steve Wonder's "Superstition" and Deep Purple's "Smoke on the Water".

Paice appeared at the Pearl Day (Pearl drums event) which was held on 1 June 2008 at the East Midlands Conference Centre in Nottingham, UK. Apart from Paice, guests included Jerry Brown, Mark Brzezecki, Jimmy Degrasso, Darrin Mooney, and Dan Foord.

On 6 September 2009, Paice joined Neil Murray, Doogie White, Jonathan Noyce, Clive Bunker and Phil Hilborne at a "Night with Jethro Tull and Deep Purple" concert in Turin, Italy.

On 18 April 2010, Paice, Jon Lord and Iron Maiden frontman Bruce Dickinson joined leading actors (Gillian Anderson, Julie Christie, Sinéad Cusack, Emilia Fox, Derek Jacobi, Zoe Wanamaker, James Wilby, among others) to support Survival International at the Apollo Theatre in London for fundraising event "We are One – a celebration of tribal peoples", created by actor Mark Rylance.

On 2 April 2012, Paice performed at the Buddy Rich 25th Anniversary Memorial Concert at the London Palladium. He was joined on stage by the Buddy Rich Orchestra and Bruce Dickinson.

On 16 September 2012, Paice appeared at the Sunflower Jam charity concert at the Royal Albert Hall, performing alongside guitarist Brian May of Queen, bassist John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin, and vocalists Bruce Dickinson and Alice Cooper.

Personal life
Paice is married and has three children: James, Emmy and Calli. His wife, Jacky, is the twin sister of the late Jon Lord's wife, Vicky.

It had been rumored (and even mentioned by former Gillan guitarist Bernie Torme in an interview) that Paice has only one lung: in reality, he is only missing a portion of the lower lobe in his left lung, due to contracting a case of pneumonia when he was six years old that turned into tuberculosis.

He is almost always seen wearing glasses with blue (or occasionally green or purple)-tinted spectacle lenses.

Paice is a supporter of England rugby and has a good knowledge of the game. His son James played for a long time. He talked about it in "Oval Bin" Show with Luca Tramontin.

Health
On 14 June 2016, he suffered a transient ischaemic attack, or mini stroke. This led to Deep Purple cancelling two concerts planned in Sweden that week. He said after the incident that there was "no serious or permanent damage" and expected to return to performing in July. He added that the cancelled concerts were the first Deep Purple performances of which he had forced the cancellation since his co-founding of the band in 1968. He returned to stage with Deep Purple in Gothenburg on 1 July, playing a full setlist with the band, but without performing his drum solo.

Equipment
Today Paice uses Pearl drumkits as his main performing drums, incorporating Paiste cymbals, Remo drumheads and Pro-Mark drumsticks. He used Ludwig kits during the seventies and early eighties in remarkable large sizes: 26" Bass drum, 16" Tom, an 18 & 20" floor tom and 14 x 6.5" Supraphonic snare which was a blueprint for his signature snare from Pearl. In 1982 he switched companies, because Ludwig's development stalled and he got a better deal from Pearl. He also prefers a single bass drum set-up, both live and in the studio. Pearl Drums produce his signature snare drum.

He has also released a solo DVD which is aimed at both drummers and music fans in general.

Influences and style
Paice's early influences include jazz and rock drummers such as Gene Krupa, Buddy Rich, Bobby Elliott, Ringo Starr and Charles Connor, and later he was inspired by Carmine Appice, Ginger Baker and Mitch Mitchell.

He is primarily left-handed with a left-handed drum-kit set-up and uses the matched-grip approach. He is well known for his extremely fast and smooth single and double-stroke rolls as well as single bass pedal speed. He did however perform once with a double-bass setup on the title track of the Fireball album and was performed live occasionally. He is also known for perfecting the one-handed roll as demonstrated on a Drummerworld video.

Paice has been cited as an influence on many notable rock drummers, including Clive Burr, Mikkey Dee, Virgil Donati, Dave Grohl, Gary James, Simon Phillips and Matt Starr.

Recognition
On 5 November 2007 at the Classic Rock Awards, Jacky and Ian Paice received the ChildLine award in recognition of their philanthropic work with the SunflowerJam raising money for children with cancer. Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden presented them with the award. It was the first time the award has been given.

On 2 April 2012, Paice was presented with a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Buddy Rich 25th Anniversary Memorial Concert at the London Palladium.

He was inducted into the Modern Drummer Hall of Fame in 2015. In 2016, Paice was ranked 21st in Rolling Stone's list of the "100 Greatest Drummers of All Time".

As a member of Deep Purple, he was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame on 8 April 2016.

Discography

 * MI5 & The Maze
 * 1966 You'll Never Stop Me Loving You/Only Time Will Tell (SP, UK)
 * 1966 Hello Stranger/Telephone (SP, UK)
 * 1967 Aria Del Sud/Non Fatemio Odiare (SP, Italy)
 * 1967 Harlem Shuffle/What Now/The Trap/I'm So Glad (EP, France)
 * 1967 Catari, Catari/Easy Street (SP, UK)

 * Gary Moore Band
 * 1982 Corridors of Power
 * 1983 Falling in Love with You (EP)
 * 1983 Rockin' Every Night - Live in Japan (European release: 1986)
 * 1983 Victims of the Future
 * 1984 We Want Moore!

 * Solo
 * 2002 Not for the Pro's (DVD+CD)
 * 2005 Chad Smith & Ian Paice – Live Performances, Interviews, Tech Talk and Soundcheck (DVD)
 * 2006 Modern Drummer Festival 2005 (DVD)
 * 2007 Ian Paice and Friends Live in Reading 2006 (DVD)
 * 2007 Ian Paice and Lee Joe Band — Live In Belgorod 2007, Interview (DVD)
 * 2015 Ian Paice's Sunflower Superjam - Live at The Royal Albert Hall 2012
 * 2016 Ian Paice The Legend - Rock Summit 2014 (DVD)

 * Film and TV appearances
 * 1983 Rock School (BBC, educational)
 * 1991 Deep Purple – Heavy Metal Pioneers (Warner, interviewee)
 * 1995 Rock Family Trees, ep. 'Deep Purple' (BBC, interviewee)
 * 2002 Classic Albums, ep. 'Deep Purple – Machine Head' (ITV, interviewee)
 * 2004 Roger Glover – Made in Wales (ITV, interviewee)
 * 2005 Hard Rock Treasures (Feature, interviewee)
 * 2006 Heavy Metal: Louder Than Life (Feature, interviewee)
 * 2007 Highway Star: A Journey in Rock (interviewee)
 * 2010 I'm in a Rock n' Roll Band, ep. The Drummer (BBC, interviewee)
 * 2011 Metal Evolution, eps. Pre-Metal, Early Metal, Part 2: UK Division (VH1, interviewee)
 * 2013 Behind The Music Remastered, ep. 'Deep Purple' (VH1, interviewee)
 * 2013 Jon Lord: It's All Music (BBC, interviewee)
 * 2014 Made in Japan - The Rise of Deep Purple Mk II (interviewee)

 * Sessions & guest appearances
 * 1967 Do Your Own Thing/Goodbye Baby Goodbye (Soul Brothers, SP)
 * 1968 I Shall Be Released/Down In The Flood (Boz Burrell, SP)
 * 1968 I Feel Fine/Let Me Love You (Tony Wilson, SP)
 * 1968 Sundragon (Sundragon)
 * 1971 Natural Magic (Green Bullfrog)
 * 1971 In My Time (Mike Hurst)
 * 1972 Gemini Suite (Jon Lord)
 * 1972 ELF (ELF - as co-producer)
 * 1972 Rolling With My Baby [Single] (Silverhead - as producer)
 * 1972 Home is Where You Find It (Eddie Hardin)
 * 1972 The Pete York Percussion Band (The Pete York Percussion Band)
 * 1973 Squeeze (Velvet Underground)
 * 1973 Bump & Grind (Jackson Heights)
 * 1974 E.H. in the UK – (Eddie Harris)
 * 1974 First of the Big Bands (Tony Ashton & Jon Lord)
 * 1975 Funkist (Bobby Harrison)
 * 1975 Get Off II (NAPRA)
 * 1977 You Can't Teach An Old Dog New Tricks (Eddie Hardin)
 * 1978 Composition (Kirby)
 * 1980 And About Time Too (Bernie Marsden)
 * 1980 Free Spirit (Ken Hensley, "Brown Eyed Boy")
 * 1981 Look at Me Now (Bernie Marsden)
 * 1982 Before I Forget (Jon Lord)
 * 1983 Arrested – The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra & Friends Tribute to Police ("Truth Hits Everybody", "Arrested", "Message in a Bottle", "Invisible Sun")
 * 1987 Super Drumming (Pete York & Friends)
 * 1988 The Christmas Album (Keith Emerson, "Captain Starship Christmas")
 * 1989 Best of Dark Horse 1976–89 (George Harrison)
 * 1990 Jump The Gun (Pretty Maids)
 * 1990 Pete York Presents Super Drumming Volume 3 (Pete York & Friends)
 * 1993 BBC Radio 1 Live in Concert '74 (Tony Ashton & Jon Lord)
 * 1994 From Time To Time (Ken Hensley, "Inspiration")
 * 1999 Run Devil Run (Paul McCartney)
 * 1999 Live at the Cavern (Paul McCartney, DVD)
 * 2001 Living on the Outside (Jim Capaldi)
 * 2001 Twister (Max Magagni)
 * 2002 Dal Vero (Tolo Marton, "Stone Free", "Hey Joe")
 * 2003 E-Thnik (Mario Fasciano)
 * 2006 Gillan's Inn (Ian Gillan, "Sugar Plum", "Trashed", "Smoke on the Water", "No Laughing in Heaven")
 * 2006 Time To Take A Stand (Moonstone Project, +2008 extended ed., "Rose in Hell", "Where Do You Hide The Blues You've Got", "Silent Hunter")
 * 2007 Little Hard Blues (Andrea Ranfagni, "Forget My Boogie", )
 * 2007 One Night Jam (Lee Joe Fiafari, "Sweet Girl")
 * 2009 Rebel on the Run (Moonstone Project, song "Halfway To Heaven")
 * 2010 Stay Tuned (Bernhard Welz, "Drum Jam – live 2002")
 * 2010 Made in Verona – Live (Forever Deep – The Italian Deep Purple Tribute)
 * 2011 Seeking Major Tom (William Shatner, "Space Truckin'")
 * 2012 Raining Rock (Jettblack, "Feel the Love", CD single)
 * 2012 A Spoonful of Time (Nektar Tribute Album, "For the Love of Money")
 * 2012 Who Are You: An All Star Tribute To The Who ("Bargain")
 * 2013 Forever Deep (Forever Deep, "The Wish", "Without Your Love", "Marosh")
 * 2014 Shine (Bernie Marsden, "Trouble")
 * 2014 Celebrating Jon Lord
 * 2015 This Is The Thing #1 (Purpendicular)
 * 2015 Sunflower Super Jam Live at the Royal Albert Hall 2012
 * 2016 Unfolding (Steve Balsamo & Rosalie Deighton)
 * 2017 "Paicey Story, Made In Breizh
 * 2017 Venus To Volcanus (Purpendicular)
 * 2021 DMX - X Moves (Ft. Bootsy Collins & Steve Howe & Ian Paice)

 * 2022 ‘’Human Mechanic’’ (Purpendicular)

Drum clinics/guest performances
Paice has been touring with his drum clinics extensively since the 1980s. Additionally, he very often gives performances with Deep Purple coverbands, playing many obscure Deep Purple songs, often never played by the band itself.

1990s 2001 2002 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009
 * 1992 – UK, Oxford – charity concert in aid of Leukemia Research
 * 1997 – Poland
 * September 1999 – Norway, Hell, Hell Blues Festival – concert with Paul Martinez (bs) and Tony Ashton (vpc/pno), also a drum clinic
 * March 2001 – Australia, drum clinics in Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney
 * December 2001 – Tour of Germany with Pete York (dr), Colin Hodgkinson (bs) and Miller Anderson (voc/gtr)
 * 15 March 2002 – one-off concert with Italian guitarist Tolo Marton
 * September 2002 – Poland, Opole – appearance at the Opole Drumming Festival
 * 21 June 2004 – UK, London – concert at the opening of London Drum Company with Chad Smith, Fairfield Halls, Croydon, UK, filmed and released on DVD the next year
 * 2005 – concert with Chad Smith at the Modern Drummer Festival, filmed and released on DVD
 * 2005 – Poland, Piekary Śląskie
 * 2005 – Sweden, Stockholm, Bass n' Drum Festival
 * 25 May 2005 – Austria, Vienna – concert with a band led by Austrian drummer, Bernhard Welz
 * 3 August 2005 – Italy, Trieste – concert with the Italian Deep Purple cover band Rain
 * 29 November 2005 – UK, London – Appearance at the Clive Burr Testimonial
 * 13 January – UK, Reading – charity concert
 * 31 March & 1 April – Germany, Frankfurt, ProLight+Sound – two concerts with Don Airey, Thijs van Leer, and others
 * September – UK, London – charity concert at The Sunflower Jam, organised by Jacky Paice
 * 22–25 February – Netherlands/Germany/Austria – four concerts with a German Deep Purple coverband, Demon's Eye
 * 2 March – UK, Wales, Glamorgan University – guest appearance in support of the Cardiff School of Creative & Cultural Industries initiative
 * 20 September – UK, London – concert at The Sunflower Jam, organised by Jacky Paice
 * 17 October – UK, Liverpool – concert with a Deep Purple coverband, Cheap Purple
 * 13 January – UK, England, London – performance at the Childline Rocks with Glenn Hughes
 * 5 April – Italy, Padova – concert with an Italian Deep Purple coverband Terzo Capitolo
 * 24 May – Germany, Cologne – Rock Legends Adventures
 * 1 June – UK, England, Nottingham, East Midlands Conference Centre – Pearl Day 2008
 * 29 August – Italy, Fano, Marina dei Cesari – drum clinic and concert with Machine Head, Italian Deep Purple coverband
 * 25 September – UK, England, London – charity concert at The Sunflower Jam, organised by Jacky Paice
 * 17–20 December – Short German tour with a Deep Purple coverband, Purpendicular
 * 8 February – Russia, Moscow – drum clinic
 * 31 July – Italy, Bordighera – concert with The Running Birds
 * 3 August – Italy, San Giorgio Piacentino, Dragon Beer Fest with Italian band Matt Filippucci, and Bernie Marsden
 * 6 August – Italy, Fermignano, Stadio Comunale with Italian Deep Purple coverband Machine Head
 * 4 September – Italy, Rome – drum clinic and concert with an Italian Deep Purple coverband Hush
 * 6 September – Italy, Turin – drum clinic and concert with Phil Hilborne, Neil Murray and Doogie White as part of "Night with Jethro Tull and Deep Purple" concert
 * 20 September – Paris, La Pigalle, La Baguetterie – drum clinic alongside Billy Cobham
 * 24 September – UK, England, London – concert at The Sunflower Jam, organised by Jacky Paice
 * 6 Nov – Poland, Bydgoszcz, Lizard King – concert with Free Blues Band (Bydgoskie Drums Fuzje 2009)
 * 7 Nov – Poland, Szczecin, Free Blues Club – concert with Free Blues Band (FBB 30th anniversary celebrations)

2010
 * 24 January – UK, Leamington Spa – Judged the National Young Drummer of the Year Competition
 * 28 January – Italy, Verona – with Deep Purple tribute band Forever Deep
 * 29 January – Spain, Vigo – with Deep Purple coverband Hush
 * 30 January – Spain, La Coruña – with Deep Purple coverband Hush
 * 26 March – Hungary, Győr – Győr's 11th Drummer Festival with coverband Cry Free (Hungarian Deep Purple Cover Band)
 * 8 April – Italy, Padova – with Tolo Marton Band (40th anniversary of "In Rock")
 * 9 April – Italy, Calvari – with Tolo Marton Band (40th anniversary of "In Rock")
 * 16 December – Italy, Verona – with Deep Purple tribute band Forever Deep (special guest Tolo Marton)
 * 18 December – Italy, Castelmassa (with Deep Purple tribute band Forever Deep)
 * 19 December – Italy, Caserta, Polo Regency (with Deep Purple tribute band The Stage)

2011
 * 1 April – Italy, Pompei, Hotel Vittoria (with Deep Purple tribute band The Stage)
 * 2 April – Italy, Cremona, Highway Star Rockclub (with Matt Filippini Band)
 * 5 August – Italy, Genova, Sestri Levante, Teatro Arena Conchiglia (with Tolo Marton Band)
 * 6 August – Italy, Tagliacozzo, Disco Pub Duca33 (drum clinic)
 * 6 August – Italy, Tagliacozzo, Complesso Turistico "Rolling Park" (with Tolo Marton Band, Somewhere in Rome and Steel Tyrant)
 * 10 September – Italy, Pavia di Udine, Sagra dei Pirus (with Italian Deep Purple tribute band RAIN)
 * 17 October – Argentina, Buenos Aires, Estadio Luna Park
 * 18 November – Italy, Vicenza, Teatro Astra di Schio (with Italian Deep Purple tribute band Forever Deep & Tolo Marton)
 * 19 November – Italy, Sassari, Vintage Cafe (drum clinic and concert with Matt Filippini Band)

2012 2014 2015 2016 2018 2019
 * 28 January – Italy, Verona, San Giovanni Lupatoto, Teatro Astra (with Italian Deep Purple tribute band Forever Deep & Tolo Marton)
 * 12 February- Canada, Vaughan, Drumland (celebrity guest)
 * 13 February – Canada, Toronto, Just Drums (drum clinic)
 * 18 February – Canada, Calgary, Axe Music (celebrity guest)
 * 10 March – Italy, Arzignano, Teatro Mattarello (with Altro Mondo & Free Soul Singers)
 * 21 March – Switzerland, Patteln (with Deep Purple tribute band – Purpendicular (also including a surprise appearance of original Deep Purple bassist Roger Glover))
 * 23 March – Germany, Aschaffenburg (with Deep Purple tribute band – Purpendicular)
 * 2 April – UK, England, London, Palladium – Buddy Rich Memorial Concert
 * 23 April – UK, England, Woodley, Berkshire, DrumWright
 * 28 July – Italy, Gubbio, Teatro Romano, Purple Guitar Experience (with Blue Jade & Alex De Rosso)
 * 29 July – Italy, Potenza, Vaglio Basilicata (with Pig Floyd)
 * 3 August – Italy, PN, Arba (with RAIN)
 * 4 August – Italy, Campobasso, Villa Rosa (drum clinic)
 * 4 August – Italy, Cercemaggiore (CB), Baloma Bikers Festival (with Deep Purple tribute band – The Purple Inside)
 * 5 August – Italy, Genova, Teatro Arena Conchigilia (with Tolo Marton Band)
 * 6 August – Italy, Tagliacozzo, DISCO PUB "DUCA33" (drum clinic)
 * 6 August – Italy, Tagliacozzo, Complesso Turistico "Rolling Park" (with Deep Purple tribute band – Perfect Strangers)
 * 7 September – Italy, Palermo (with the student orchestra of Conservatorio Vincenzo Bellini conducted by Alberto Maniaci)
 * 9 September – Netherlands, Ittervoort, Drumworld Adams Festival
 * 17 September – UK, England, London, The British Music Experience "Practice Room" session
 * 30 September – Poland, Opole, Filharmonia Opolska, Drum Fest (with Moonstone Project), also drum clinic
 * 11 November – Germany, Düsseldorf, Drummers Institute
 * 18 December – Italy, Canicattì, Cineteatro Odeon (with Rapture tribute band)
 * 7 October - Czech Republic, Brno (with Purpendicular)
 * 8 October - Germany, Burgrieden (with Purpendicular)
 * 9 October - Germany, Rutesheim (with Purpendicular)
 * 19 December - Italy, Pistoia at Santomato live (with the Ranfa Band)
 * 12 March - France, Vaureal(Paris) (with Purpendicular)
 * 13 March - Switzerland, Zug (with Purpendicular)
 * 14 March - Germany, Burgrieden (with Purpendicular)
 * 26 March - Denmark, Copenhagen (with Purpendicular)
 * 27 March - Denmark, Fredericia (with Purpendicular)
 * 28 March - Germany, Ahlen (with Purpendicular)
 * 17 March - France, Vaureal (near Paris) (with Purpendicular)
 * 18 March - France, Riom (near Clermont Ferrand) (with Purpendicular)
 * 19 March - Switzerland, Zug (near Zürich) (with Purpendicular)
 * 20 March - Germany, Burgrieden (near Ulm) (with Purpendicular)
 * 26 March - Germany, Neurupinn (near Berlin) (with Purpendicular)
 * 27 March - Germany, Karlsruhe (with Purpendicular)
 * 28 March - Switzerland, Pratteln (near Basel) (with Purpendicular)
 * 15 April - Austria, Klagenfurt at Eboardmuseum ( with Perfect Strangers)
 * 30 May - Italy, Cittanova (with Into The Purple)
 * 15 December - Germany, Finnentrop (with Purpendicular)
 * 8 June - Belgium, Zik Zak, Ittre (with Purpendicular)
 * 4 August - Germany, Berlin, Biesdorfer Parkbühne (with Purpendicular)

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Successfully mimicking a genuine scientific work, Rhinogradentia has appeared in several publications without any note of its fictitious nature, sometimes in connection with April Fools' Day.

Background
Rhinogradentia, their island home of Hy-yi-yi, zoologist Harald Stümpke, and a host of other people, places, and documents are fictional creations of Gerolf Steiner (1908–2009), a German zoologist. Steiner is best known for his fictional work as Stümpke, but he was an accomplished zoologist in his own right. He held a professorship at the University of Heidelberg and later the Technical University of Karlsruhe, where he occupied the department chair from 1962 to 1973.

Steiner was also interested in illustration, and in 1945 drew a picture for one of his students as thanks for some food. He took inspiration from a short nonsense poem by Christian Morgenstern, The Nasobame (Das Nasobēm) about an animal that walked using its nose. He took to the drawing, made a copy for himself, and later incorporated the creatures into his teaching. According to Bud Webster, Steiner's motivation for writing a book about them was instructional, to illustrate "how animals evolve in isolation", but Joe Cain speculates that the success of the joke may have led to a teaching and writing career based on that rather than the other way around.

Harald Stümpke's account
Steiner's fictional author, credited as "quondam curator of the Museum of the Darwin Institute of Hy-yi-yi, Mairuwili", provides a very detailed account of the order and individual species, written in a dry, scholarly tone. Michael Ohl wrote that the book is written "in truly amusing attention to detail and using what is immediately recognizable as a practiced scientific patois". The evidently expert voice of the author, his competent writing, and apparent familiarity with conventions of academic literature set the work apart as a rare example at the intersection of fiction and scholarship. Steiner credits himself by name as illustrator of the book, and explains how that role led him to possess the only remaining record of Rhinogradentia.

Discovery and study at Hy-yi-yi
According to Stümpke, Rhinogradentia were native to Hy-yi-yi, a small Pacific archipelago comprising eighteen islands: Annoorussawubbissy, Awkoavussa, Hiddudify, Koavussa, Lowlukha, Lownunnoia, Mara, Miroovilly, Mittuddinna, Naty, Nawissy, Noorubbissy, Osovitissy, Ownavussa, Owsuddowsa, Shanelukha, Towteng-Awko, and Vinsy. The islands occupied 1,690 km2 and the archipelago's highest peak, 2,230 m, was on its main island, Hiddudify (Hy-dud-dye-fee).

The first description of Hy-yi-yi published in Europe was that of Einar Pettersson-Skämtkvist, a Swedish explorer who arrived in Hiddudify by chance in 1941, after escaping from a Japanese prisoner-of-war camp. Each of the islands was home to distinctive fauna, dominated by Rhinogradentia, the only mammals other than humans and one species of shrew. In the time after the war, a number of scientists took interest in the rhinogrades and began formal research into their physiology, morphology, behaviors, and evolution.

In the late 1950s, nearby nuclear weapons testing by the United States military accidentally caused all of the islands of Hy-yi-yi to sink into the ocean, destroying all traces of the rhinogrades and their unique ecosystem. Also killed were all the world's Rhinogradentia researchers, who were attending a conference on Hy-yi-yi at the time. The book's epilogue, credited to Steiner in his capacity as the book's illustrator, explains that Stümpke had sent the book's materials to Steiner to serve as the basis for illustrations in preparation for publication. Following the disaster, it is the only remaining record of the subjects it describes.

Biological characteristics and behavior
Rhinogrades are mammals characterized by a nose-like feature called a "nasorium", the form and function of which vary significantly between species. According to Stümpke, the order's remarkable variety was the natural outcome of evolution acting over millions of years in the remote Hy-yi-yi islands. All the 14 families and 189 known snouter species descended from a small shrew-like animal, which gradually evolved and diversified to fill most of the ecological niches in the archipelago — from tiny worm-like beings to large herbivores and predators.

Many rhinogrades used their nose for locomotion, for example the "snout leapers" like Hopsorrhinus aureus, whose nasorium was used for jumping, or the "earwings" like Otopteryx, which flew backwards by flapping its ears and used its nose as a rudder. Some species used their nasorium for catching food, for example by using it to fish or to attract and trap insects. Other species included the fierce Tyrannonasus imperator and the shaggy Mammontops.

Pettersson-Skämtkvist's early descriptions of the animals he encountered on Hy-yi-yi led zoologists to name them after the title creature in Christian Morgenstern's The Nasobame. In the poem, which exists outside of this fictional universe and also served as an inspiration for Steiner, the Nasobame is seen "striding on its noses" (auf seinen Nasen schreitet).

Genera
Stümpke's book classifies 138 species of rhinograde in the following fictitious genera: • Archirrhinos

• Cephalanthus

• Columnifax

• Corbulonasus

• Dulcicauda

• Eledonopsis

• Emunctator

• Enterorrhinus

• Hexanthus

• Holorrhinus

• Hopsorrhinus

• Larvanasus

• Liliopsis

• Mammontops

• Mercatorrhinus

• Nasobema

• Nudirhinus

• Orchidiopsis

• Otopteryx

• Phyllohopla

• Ranunculonasus

• Remanonasus

• Rhinochilopus

• Rhinolimacius

• Rhinosiphonia

• Rhinostentor

• Rhinotaenia

• Rhinotalpa

• Rhizoidonasus

• Stella

• Tyrannonasus

The names generally refer to particular forms or functions of the nasorium of animals in that genus, typically providing vernacular names for clarity.

Publication history
Steiner's books as Stümpke have been translated into other languages, sometimes crediting other names based on the country of publication. "Harald Stümpke", "Massimo Pandolfi", "Hararuto Shutyunpuke", and "Karl D. S. Geeste" are pseudonyms. Translator names are real.
 * Stümpke, Harald (1957). Bau und Leben der Rhinogradentia. Stuttgart: Gustav Fischer Verlag. ISBN 3-437-30083-0..
 * Stümpke, Harald (1962). Anatomie et Biologie des Rhinogrades — Un Nouvel Ordre de Mammifères (Trans. Robert Weill). Paris: Masson. ISBN 978-2-10-005449-7..
 * Stümpke, Harald (1967). The Snouters: Form and Life of the Rhinogrades (Trans. Leigh Chadwick). Garden City, NY: The Natural History Press..
 * Pandolfi, Massimo (1992). I Rinogradi di Harald Stümpke e la zoologia fantastica (Trans. Achaz von Hardenberg). Padua: Franco Muzzio. ISBN 88-7021-485-0..
 * Shutyunpuke, Hararuto (1997). Bikōri: atarashiku-hakken-sareta-honyūrui-no-kōzō-to-seikatsu. Tokyo: Hakuhinsha. ISBN 4-938706-19-9..
 * Geeste, Karl D. S. (1988). Stümpke's Rhinogradentia: Versuch einer Analyse. Stuttgart: Gustav Fischer Verlag. ISBN 3-437-30597-2..

Legacy
Rhinogradentia is considered one of the best known biological hoaxes and scientific jokes and Steiner's pseudonymous works on the subject continue to be reprinted and translated. The first edition did not explicitly state that it was a hoax.

Following the publication of the French translation, George Gaylord Simpson wrote a seemingly serious review which extended the hoax in a 1963 issue of the journal Science, taking issue with the way Stümpke named the animals as "criminal violations of the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature". Simpson also noted that Stümpke neglected to include an unrelated mathematical concept, a "rotated matrix".

Since the book's original publication several scientists and publishers have written about Rhinogradentia as though Steiner's account were true, though it is unclear how many of those who continued and popularized the joke did so intentionally. Wulf Ankle wrote that the order "is not a poetic invention, but has really lived". Rolf Siewing's Zoology Primer lists them as an order of mammal, noting that their existence is doubted. Erich von Holst celebrated the discovery of "a completely new animal world". Timothy E. Lawlor's widely read textbook Handbook to the Orders and Families of Living Mammals includes an entry for Rhinogradentia that does not acknowledge its fictional nature. The East German Liberal Democratic Newspaper took note of the nuclear demise of the rhinogrades, writing that they would still be alive "had we, the peaceable powers, managed in time to implement widespread disarmament and prohibit the production and testing of nuclear weapons."

Prior to the publication of Leigh Chadwick's English translation, an abbreviated version ran in the April 1967 edition of Natural History, a magazine published by the American Museum of Natural History. It comprised material from the book's introduction, first chapter, selected descriptions of genera, and the epilogue, and was presented as the lead story, without qualification, by the normally serious publication. The following month, The New York Times ran a story about the snouters on the front page, based on the Natural History article. According to the magazine's editorial director, they had "received more than 100 letters and telegraphs about the snouters, most of them from people who forgot that the article was published on April Fool's Day." Natural History printed several letters to the editor in its June–July issue, and conveyed to the Times the content of several more, ranging from skeptical to fascinated and continuations of the joke. One reader, entomologist Alice Gray, expressed thanks for the article, which enabled her family to identify an animal-shaped metal bracelet from the South Pacific as having been modeled after a "Hoop Snouter", and included a drawing to preserve the record because, she said, it had been melted down with some toy soldiers and a spoon by a young cousin with a new casting set.

Decades later, papers are still published purporting to continue Stümpke's research or otherwise paying homage to Steiner's hoax. In a 2004 paper in the Russian Journal of Marine Biology, authors Kashkina & Bukashkina claim to have discovered two new marine genera: Dendronasus and an as yet unnamed parasitic taxon. The Max Planck Institute for Limnology announced a new species discovered in Großer Plöner See. On April Fools' Day in 2012, the National Museum of Natural History in France announced the discovery of a wood-eating termite-like genus, Nasoperferator, with a rotating nose resembling a drill.

Rhinogradentia has been included in a number of museum exhibitions and collections. The National Museum of Natural History's Nasoperferator announcement was accompanied by a two-month exhibit honoring the animals, featuring purported stuffed specimens in its gallery of extinct species. Mock taxidermies of rhinogrades have also been included in an exhibit at the Musée d'ethnographie de Neuchâtel, and in the permanent collections of the Musée zoologique de la ville de Strasbourg and the Salzburg Haus der Natur.

Three real species have been named after Steiner and Stümpke: Rhinogradentia steineri, a snout moth, Hyorhinomys stuempkei, a shrew rat also known as the Sulawesi snouter, and Tateomys rhinogradoides, the Tate's shrew rat.

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ScienceBlogs
Why would we use scienceblogs as a source, when it is a blog site. What you site to the blog is already cited to other sources, so there is no need to use the blog.Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 15:53, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's somewhere between WP:SPS and WP:NEWSBLOG (no clear editorial oversight, but not a personal website). But a blog is not inherently unreliable. It's context-dependent. WP:SPS: "Self-published expert sources may be considered reliable when produced by an established expert on the subject matter, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications". I don't think this is an issue. —  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It feels like citation overkill. The blog is only used for a single sentence that is already sourced elsewhere(unless my eyes have failed me). It's not something super important that needs plenty of citations so I feel we could get rid of the blog source and nothing would be lost to the article. If we don't need the blog source why have it?Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 00:45, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Harald Stümpke's account / Background
My primary issue with the statement is that it is puffery we would attribute to an author, not in the voice of Wikipedia. It also isn't needed there, as it interrupts the flow of describing the account. A statement like that, properly attributed would be better served under legacy section. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 15:58, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Do we have any sources saying he was a respected and accomplished zoologist? We only cited his University's website and so it is synth to put that there. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 16:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * "Respected" should have good source, and it may not be easy to find one (I´m fairly certain he was respected though). I think that "accomplished" is reasonable because of his professorships, and should stay. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:00, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

I combined the two sections above since they touch on the same subject, more or less. These are not unreasonable comments. As I recall, the descriptions were pulled directly from sources. I'll try to look for them later, but I have no problem with removing "respected". —  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:05, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * That's fine then. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 00:46, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Popular Culture
Do we have any other examples? Because saying it influenced several and then only naming one is poor form. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The Merzbow album was just the only notable example (in the sense of having a wikipedia article). There are other ones that there are citations for, but I try to avoid non-notable examples of "in popular culture" stuff. I can look for others, but assuming it's just Merzbow, what wording would you recommend? —  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure. Just stating it like the butterfly fact without qualification might be awkward, but it would be better than what's currently there if there is only one example. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 00:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
 * PS, Isthisreallifeorabaddream, out of curiosity, how did you come upon this article? I'm content to assume good faith, but it's unusual to see a new account created moments after a good article review in order to send it to GAR/take issue with the review (i.e. the bot hadn't even updated the page yet -- it's just the talk/review pages that were updated). And, of course, it's unusual for a brand new user to know about things like GAR and terms like "synth". I don't plan on starting an SPI or anything, but if it's the same person who was criticizing another of Sagecandor's GA reviews shortly before this, please just use your main account. —  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:09, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't worry I'm just a lurker. Only reason I made account was to initiate a possible GA reassessment but then I thought about it and realized it is good just need to fix these mistakes. I'd probably be just using my IP if I hadn't made the account. I understand the general fear though. But after this the account will probably sink. Isthisreallifeorabaddream (talk) 00:39, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

Do we have a copyrightproblem?
In the EL:s and possibly the genera-section, though that bit looks a bit to detailed to me, copyright-problem or no. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:47, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Good point re: the link. I remember considering removing it a long time ago and don't remember why I didn't. Gone now. I don't think the list of genera is an issue. It's a remnant of the article when I first came across it. With sources cited, it didn't seem harmful. Descriptions of them are what largely make up the book (i.e. I think there's detail about all of them). The only place they're presented as a group like this, as far as I can see, is in a key to a diagram, but while the names themselves are his creations, there is no creativity to their arrangement or presentation there so as long as it's cited, it seems reasonable to include (i.e. they're major topics in the book, and that they also happened to be listed together in one place doesn't mean we shouldn't list them together). I don't know if I'm explaining that clearly... —  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 14:20, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough, they do no harm. And how else would we learn about the Tyrannonasus?. I suspect R'lyeh was close to this island. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:44, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Yep, I hearby declare Great Cthulhu a Rhinogradentia. It´s obvious. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:56, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

the archipelago
why is there no information on the pacific islands they are meant to be from? are the islands made up too? if so it should be clearly stated in the article that the islands are also fictitious. 86.178.71.202 (talk) 12:42, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

 * The islands are entirely fictitious. Their names were cleverly invented: their meaning in Bavarian/Austrian dialect becomes clear only when pronounced in English which was a challenge for German-language readers at the time. I guess the names are omitted here because they would mean nothing to English readers. IP 89.51.66.67 (talk) 14:42, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

 * The article says Rhinogradentia, their island home of Hy-yi-yi, zoologist Harald Stümpke, and a host of other people, places, and documents are fictional creations of Gerolf Steiner — Rhododendrites  talk \\ 16:13, 19 June 2022 (UTC)

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UHF (film)

UHF (released internationally as The Vidiot from UHF) is a 1989 American comedy film starring "Weird Al" Yankovic, David Bowe, Fran Drescher, Victoria Jackson, Kevin McCarthy, Michael Richards, Stanley Brock, Gedde Watanabe, Billy Barty, Anthony Geary, Emo Philips and Trinidad Silva. The film is dedicated to Silva, who died shortly before filming wrapped. The film was directed by Jay Levey, Yankovic's manager, who also co-wrote the screenplay with him. The film was originally released by Orion Pictures and became owned by Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer after their takeover in 1997. Yankovic and Levey struggled to find a production company to finance the film, but eventually secured Orion's support after agreeing to a US$5 million budget. Principal photography took place around Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Yankovic stars as George Newman, a shiftless dreamer who stumbles into managing a low-budget television station and is surprised by success with his eclectic programming choices, spearheaded by the antics of a janitor turned children's television host, Stanley Spadowski (Richards). The competitive upstart provokes a major network station. The title refers to the ultra high frequency (UHF) analog television broadcasting band on which such low-budget television stations were often placed in the United States. Yankovic and Levey wrote the film following Yankovic's second album, "Weird Al" Yankovic in 3-D, and set parodies within George's vivid imagination.

UHF was a financial disappointment, as it was overshadowed by several concurrent major Hollywood blockbusters. The film also received mixed critical reviews, which left Yankovic in a slump until the surprise success of his next album, Off the Deep End in 1992. UHF became a cult film on home video and cable TV. The VHS version was rare and out of print for many years, with high prices online. In 2002, the DVD was released, and Shout! Factory released a special 25th-anniversary edition on November 11, 2014, on DVD and Blu-ray. On July 2, 2024, Shout! Factory released a 35th Anniversary Edition on 4K UHD, boasting a new 4K scan of the original 35mm camera negative and audio commentary with Weird Al and director Jay Levey.

Plot
George Newman, a dreamer who bounces between jobs, is put in charge of Channel 62, a UHF television station, after his uncle Harvey wins ownership of it in a poker game. George and his friend Bob realize the station is nearly bankrupt, subsisting on reruns of old shows like The Beverly Hillbillies and Mister Ed. When a package meant for their competitor, VHF station Channel 8, is misdelivered to George at Channel 62, he decides to deliver it himself, only to be rudely thrown out by RJ Fletcher, Channel 8's CEO. Outside, George meets Stanley Spadowski, a janitor who had just been unfairly fired by RJ, and offers him a job at Channel 62.

George and Bob create new programs, including Uncle Nutzy's Clubhouse, a live children's show hosted by George. The new shows fail to increase viewership and the station is days from bankruptcy. While fretting over their finances, George forgets his girlfriend Teri's birthday dinner and she breaks up with him. George laments about his life during the Uncle Nutzy broadcast. He abandons the set, tells Stanley he can host the show, and goes to a bar with Bob to drown their sorrows. At the bar they find the patrons eagerly watching Stanley's slapstick antics on Channel 62. Inspired by Stanley's popularity, George and Bob create a range of bizarre shows to fill the schedule, headlined by the re-titled Stanley Spadowski's Clubhouse.

RJ is infuriated that Channel 62's ratings now rival those of Channel 8, including a majority of Top Five shows. He discovers Harvey owns the station and owes his bookie, Big Louie, $75,000 by the end of the week. RJ offers to pay the debt in exchange for the deed to Channel 62. George launches a telethon to sell stock in the station, which would not only save it from RJ but also make it publicly owned. RJ's henchmen stall the telethon by kidnapping Stanley, whom George and several staff-members eventually rescue. RJ again attempts to stall the telethon with a televised public statement, but Channel 62 engineer Philo hijacks it with secretly recorded footage of RJ insulting the town's population.

The telethon ends about $2,000 short of its goal. Harvey concedes victory to RJ who, instead of immediately taking ownership, gloats to the crowd. Meanwhile, a homeless man approaches George, asking to buy the rest of the stock with money obtained by selling a rare coin that RJ, not being aware of its true value, gave him when he was begging for change. George pays off Big Louie, Harvey signs the ownership transfer, and the station officially becomes publicly owned. Because Channel 8 is late in filing its broadcast license renewal and due to the tirade that Philo broadcast, the FCC revokes their license and kicks it off the air. George and the Channel 62 staff and their audience celebrate. George and Teri rekindle their romantic relationship.

Cast

 * "Weird Al" Yankovic as George Newman, a daydreaming slacker who becomes the program director of Channel 62 at the behest of his aunt Esther.
 * David Bowe as Bob Steckler/Bobbo the Clown, George's best friend and roommate.
 * Fran Drescher as Pamela Finklestein, a secretary at Channel 62 who longs to be an on-air reporter.
 * Michael Richards as Stanley Spadowski, the janitor at Channel 62 who also serves as the host of its highest-rated show.
 * Kevin McCarthy as R.J. Fletcher, the owner of Channel 8 and the film's main antagonist.
 * Victoria Jackson as Teri Campbell, George's long-suffering girlfriend.
 * Stanley Brock as Harvey Bilchik, George's uncle and a serious gambler who wins Channel 62 in a poker game.
 * Sue Ane Langdon as Aunt Esther Bilchik, Harvey's wife and George's aunt.
 * Anthony Geary as Philo, Channel 62's station engineer who is secretly an alien.
 * Billy Barty as Noodles MacIntosh, one of Channel 62's cameramen.
 * Trinidad Silva as Raul Hernandez, host of a Channel 62 show about animals.
 * Gedde Watanabe as Kuni, a karate teacher who hosts a game show.
 * Vance Colvig Jr. as homeless man
 * David Proval as Fletcher's head goon
 * John Paragon as R.J. Fletcher Jr.
 * Belinda Bauer as Mud Wrestler
 * Dr. Demento as himself/Whipped Cream Eater
 * Emo Philips as Joe Earley
 * Patrick Thomas O'Brien as Satan
 * The Kipper Kids as themselves
 * John Cadenhead as Crazy Ernie

Production
Yankovic and his manager Jay Levey had discussed the idea of a movie for Yankovic around 1985, after his second major successful album; his popularity at that time led the two to thinking what other venues would work for the musician. The story concept they created was based on Yankovic's approach to his music video parodies. After sketching several such parodies for a film, they conceived Yankovic's character owning a small-time UHF station broadcasting these parodies as shows, as this would not require having any significant plot to string the parodies together, in a manner similar to Airplane! (1980).

The two shopped the script around Hollywood film agencies for about three years. They were surprised to learn one of their agents had shown the script to the founders of a new production company, Cinecorp, which was interested and had given it to producers Gene Kirkwood and John W. Hyde; Kirkwood stated he had previously seen Yankovic's videos and wanted to make a movie with him. Kirkwood and Hyde had connections with Orion Pictures, which offered up to US$5 million (equivalent to $ in ).

The title is because of the film's spoofing of the American phenomenon of small local television stations operating on ultra-high-frequency broadcasts, which were typically known for quirky, low-cost production shows. Yankovic suggested the title The Vidiot for the international release, but the studio chose The Vidiot from UHF to connect the international and American versions, with which Yankovic has expressed dissatisfaction.

Locations
Primary filming occurred in Tulsa. Executive producer Gray Frederickson had earlier finished shooting of The Outsiders in Oklahoma, and found the ease and cost of filming in the state appealing. They found several favorable factors that made the city suitable for filming. The Kensington Galleria (71st and Lewis) was being closed down to convert the mall into office space, allowing the production team to use it for both sound stage and interior scenes including those for Channels 8 and 62. The mall was situated near a hotel, for housing the cast and crew. The area and close proximity to Dallas allowed them to recruit additional local talent for some of the acts during the telethon scenes.

The Burger World location was Harden's Hamburgers at 6835 East 15th Street, and Bowling for Burgers was filmed at Rose Bowl Lanes on East 11th Street. The bar location was Joey's House of the Blues at 2222 East 61st Street. The building used for Kuni's Karate School belongs to Welltown Brewery and is located at 114 West Archer in Tulsa, and "Crazy Ernie's Used Car Emporium" was filmed on the lot of Ernie Miller Pontiac at 4700 South Memorial. The dead fish in Wheel of Fish were obtained from the White River Fish Market. The news desk was located at OETA, a local PBS member station. The steps of City Hall are actually First Christian Church at 913 S. Boulder, built in 1920. Channel 8's exterior is an office block (6655 South Lewis Building) occupied by Hewlett-Packard. The U-62 building was constructed around KGTO 1050's AM radio transmitter site (5400 West Edison Street); the real KGTO studios had been moved elsewhere in 1975. Just the tower remains at this location. The airport scenes were shot at Tulsa International Airport.

Casting
Yankovic was always envisioned to be the central character of the film George Newman, written as a straight man with a vivid imagination as to allow the insertion of the parodies into the film's script in a manner similar to the film The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947). To focus on the parodies, George was not developed beyond driving the principal storyline. The name "Newman" was selected as homage to Mad magazine's mascot, Alfred E. Neuman, further referenced by the name of Uncle Nutsy's Clubhouse.

The role of Stanley Spadowski was written by Yankovic with Michael Richards in mind. Yankovic had been impressed with his stand-up comedy and performance on the show Fridays. Stanley's role was influenced by Christopher Lloyd's performance on Taxi, so Yankovic had considered offering it to him, but kept Richards due to their original premise. Richards's agents had told Yankovic that he was not interested in the role due to a bout of Bell's palsy, but on second contact, Richards arrived on set and dropped right into the character for the test read.

Other principal roles were cast through normal auditions, with most of the choices based on how well the actor fit the role. For George's girlfriend Teri Campbell, they did not significantly develop the relationship because they did not consider Yankovic a romantic lead. Jennifer Tilly and Ellen DeGeneres auditioned, and Victoria Jackson's soft demeanor was preferred.

For R.J. Fletcher, they found that Kevin McCarthy was in a similar stage of his career as Leslie Nielsen, one of many "serious vintage actors who had crossed over into satire", according to Levey, and McCarthy relished the role. Yankovic noted that McCarthy struggled not to laugh during takes. McCarthy later described his character as a fellow who "makes Ebenezer Scrooge look like Sally Struthers". Yankovic cited one of McCarthy's best-known roles as the ageless history teacher in the classic Twilight Zone episode "Long Live Walter Jameson". Noting McCarthy's gray hair, Yankovic recalled a scene at the end, when Jameson aged rapidly, saying, "For just a split second, he looked just like [in UHF]."

Fran Drescher was cast as Pamela Finklestein, for her established comedy and for her nasally voice that made a humorous contrast for a news anchor.

The producers considered Jerry Seinfeld for the role of George's friend Bob Speck, but he turned it down. David Bowe, who had been a long-time Yankovic fan, easily fit the role during auditions.

Philo's role was inspired by Joel Hodgson's stand-up routines with homemade inventions and deadpan comedy. Hodgson declined the role, thinking that he was not a good actor. He was also working on Mystery Science Theater 3000. They approached Crispin Glover for the role, but he only wanted to play a used car salesman and no other part. As they sought other actors, their casting agent Cathy Henderson suggested Anthony Geary, who had gained popularity on General Hospital. Geary wanted the role as a fan of Yankovic, and as completely opposite from his normal acting.

Kuni was conceived for Gedde Watanabe.

Emo Philips was a close friend of Yankovic, so he eventually created the role of the clumsy shop teacher for him.

Ginger Baker of the rock band Cream volunteered to audition for the role of the hobo, but Yankovic and the production team found Vance Colvig Jr. to be a better fit.

Levey appears as Mahatma Gandhi in the spoof segment Gandhi II.

After Trinidad Silva performed his primary scenes, he was to return for the yet unfilmed telethon scenes; however, he died in a car accident. The filmmakers were too grief-stricken to use body doubles and changed the telethon. The film was dedicated to Silva.

Sylvester Stallone had initially agreed to a cameo appearance in the final act, where Newman imagines himself as a John Rambo-type soldier on a mission to rescue Stanley Spadowski, but Stallone ultimately declined.

Reception
UHF received mixed reviews. On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes, the film has a 63% rating based on 24 reviews, with an average score of 5.6/10. The site's critical consensus reads, "UHF is bizarre, freewheeling, and spotty, though its anarchic spirit cannot be denied." On Metacritic, which assigns a weighted average based on selected critic reviews, the film has a score of 32 out of 100, based on 11 critics, indicating "generally unfavorable" reviews. Critic Roger Ebert wrote in the Chicago Sun-Times that Yankovic's approach to satire and parody works for the short-form music video, but does not work to fill out a full-length movie. Ebert also called to Yankovic's lack of screen presence, creating a "dispirited vacuum at the center of many scenes"; he gave UHF one star out of four. Chicago Tribune critic Gene Siskel wrote of the film, "Never has a comedy tried so hard and failed so often to be funny"; he gave it a zero star rating. Fellow Tribune critic Dave Kehr said of it "It's not surprising to find that UHF ultimately resolves itself into a series of four-minute, video-style sketches laid pretty much end-to-end, but at least Weird Al has given feature-length fiction the old college try, introducing rudimentary plot and number of semi-functional characters." Michael Wilmington of the Los Angeles Times believed that, as the entire film comprised parodies, it gave no structure for the larger plot to work, thus resulting in "not much of a movie".

According to Yankovic's Behind the Music episode, UHF has one of the most successful test screenings in Orion's history. Orion Pictures released UHF on July 21, 1989, hoping for a blockbuster that would revive their commercial fortunes. However, critical response was negative, and it was out of the theaters by the end of the month. The film has been compared to Young Einstein, which similarly scored well with test audiences but failed to make a critical impression. Yankovic has stated that it was not a "critic movie" but was expected to "save the studio" for Orion. He was treated very well because of this, saying: "Every morning I would wake up to fresh strawberries next to my bed. Then, when the movie bombed, I woke up and...no more strawberries!"

Since the month prior to the release of UHF, studios released bigger movies like Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, Ghostbusters II, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids, Lethal Weapon 2, Batman, Licence to Kill, Dead Poets Society, When Harry Met Sally..., Do the Right Thing, and Weekend at Bernie's. The draw of these blockbusters depleted the attendance at UHF's premiere. The A.V. Club, in a retrospective, called UHF "a sapling among the redwoods" and the type of film that Hollywood has since abandoned. Yankovic and the film's other creators considered that the film had a strong audience with younger viewers, which did well to fill midday matinees but did not succeed in helping to sell tickets for more lucrative evening and nighttime showings.

The poor critical response of UHF left Yankovic in a slump for three years, impacting the finalization of his next studio album. The slump was broken when the band Nirvana rose to wide popularity, inspiring him to write "Smells Like Nirvana" and complete the album Off the Deep End.

Legacy
UHF has since become a cult classic, becoming popular on cable and home video. The movie was released on VHS in Europe, the United States and Canada but, because of the little money earned at the box office, it soon fell out of print. In the several years UHF was out of print, it developed a cult following. It was released on DVD in 2002 by MGM and, in its debut week, it became a top ten bestseller in Variety magazine. The US and Canadian DVD contains numerous extras including a music video of the theme song, a commentary track featuring director Jay Levey and Yankovic (with surprise guest appearances by costars Michael Richards and Emo Philips and a phoned-in appearance by Victoria Jackson), and a deleted-scenes reel with Yankovic's commentary. Shout! Factory released a special 25th Anniversary Edition of UHF on November 11, 2014, on DVD and Blu-ray, and Fabulous Films released the movie on Blu-Ray in the United Kingdom on July 27, 2015.

Though Yankovic has considered the possibility of a sequel, he has not actively pursued this. He noted that UHF is "a product of its era, and comedy has changed so much over the decades", but also considered that the type of comedy predated the nature of Internet phenomena and viral videos. Yankovic further maintained the unlikelihood of a sequel to UHF in an interview, citing the underwhelming box office returns of the original, and lack of industry interest in financing another UHF project.

Gedde Watanabe later reprised his role as Kuni for a guest appearance on The Weird Al Show in 1997.

The music video for Yankovic's "Word Crimes" has the name George Newman on a test paper, and a Reddit account called u/George-Newman.

A webseries called The Real UHF which was heavily inspired by UHF started in 2009. It stars Dr. Demento, Neil Hamburger, and Count Smokula, and guest appearances including Devo and George Clinton.

Soundtrack
Yankovic released the soundtrack in late 1989, titled UHF – Original Motion Picture Soundtrack and Other Stuff, with songs and advertisements from the movie and new studio material.

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User:Saforrest

Hi, I'm Saforrest. I'm a Canadian currently living in Germany. I've been editing Wikipedia since 2004 (first article edit).

Many of my edits tend to concern history and politics (especially those of Canada and Germany), and science (especially mathematics, computer science, and genetics).

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User:Mark Krueger

I am (almost entirely) studying mathematics (and related sciences...). Talk to me or [mailto:krueger@math.uni-frankfurt.de write].

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hey steve
i remember you.. PMC 4 life! hahaha; and you lived with steph on columbia.. i think she was kinda scared of you, hehehe. Mlm42 05:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

 * actually, she may not have been scared of you, i don't know.. but she sure was scared of me! yup, phd student in cambridge now.. my first real contribution to wikipedia was ensuring the place i live, Leckhampton, Corpus Christi College, Cambridge, wasn't deleted! it was a close call, let me tell you; it's a good thing they didn't delete it.. i do need a place to stay, after all, heh Mlm42 15:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Museveni on peer review
Hey SF, just thought I'd let you know that Yoweri Museveni is now on peer review as you have contributed to it previously. I thought now was about the right time, as it would be good to get a feel for the kind of things people will say in WP:FAC now, rather than pressing ahead with expansion and then having to change a whole load of stuff later. TreveXtalk 11:05, 6 September 2005 (UTC)

Category: British Hills by Height and Category:Mountains by_Elevation (km)
I am posting this to all the particants of the Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Category:Books by title discussion and debate. (Where the categories were voted for deletion).

This earlier discussion has been cited as an example as to why the category Category:Mountains by Elevation (km) (and sub cats) should be deleted.

Could you please take a look at the following CFD and vote. Categories for deletion/Log/2005 September 1

A complication could be that Category: British Hills by Height seems be to liked by the actual British Hills content contributors. By contrast the category Category:Mountains by_Elevation (km) is not liked by User:RedWolf who seems to be a major Mountain page contributor.

Special note: the Ocean trenches by depth categories were added after the all of the people had voted. But frankly these have no real contributors and would probably get deleted if another vote was taken. You should specifically mention these to ensure there is no confusion in future.

ThanX ¢ NevilleDNZ 11:02, 6 September 2005 (UTC) ¢

User Categorisation
You were listed on the Wikipedians/Ontario page as living in or being associated with Hamilton, Ontario. As part of the User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in Hamilton for instructions.--Rmky87 02:19, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

Clayton Ruby
As I recall, he's always described himself as an anarchist. He's a left-wing anti-establishment lawyer so I don't know why you'd be surprised. I know of a few anarchist lawyers, though I know of more lawyers who are socialist or communist. Homey 02:24, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Lord Tubby
Hi there. It's not true that Right Honourable is reserved for former Canadian PMs, see The Right Honourable#Canada. Aside from that, Black is British now, and that's where the title comes from. --Saforrest 16:46, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I realize that now and also when I saw the edit. Thanks. P.S. I hear that one of the conditions that Lord Tubby is negotiating if he goes to The Joint is that he'll be allowed to start a newspaper for the inmates called The Big House Daily Examiner. Imagine the "society" columns. Also, I hear that he wants black and gold coveralls with braided epaulets on the shoulders, instead of the standard-issue orange coveralls. Barry Wells 01:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Witness
Hey. I understand your correction, but I already knew that he wasn't "English" in the sense that you interpreted it to be, as in nationality to England. I placed the word there because the whole film is about Amish perception of the "English" world. "English" is what the Old-Order Amish refer to "Americans" as; see the Amish page for further information. I presume you've never seen the film, or did not understand it. Either way, I'll play nice and not revert back to "English" just to avoid an edit war. But, I did change "big-city" to "Philadelphia" just for "city" clarification. Poisonouslizzie 02:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Wulfrun and Lady Wulfruna
Thanks. Sorry. I created Wulfrun without knowing that Lady Wulfruna already existed. Afterwards by text-searching for "wulfrun" I found Lady Wulfruna, and then I felt that I better merge them. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard 06:36, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Rwandan Patriotic Army
Hi Saforrest. It's been a while. I noticed that you broke RPA off from Rwandan Patriotic Front and have a question. My understanding is that the RPF was the political wing of the RPA, or the RPA is the military wing of the RPF, depending on how you approach it. This is similar to the SPLM/A, National Resistance Army/Movement, Sinn Fein/IRA structure than many rebel groups have. RPA currently states, "It is the successor to the army of the Rwandese Patriotic Front", when it actually was the army of the RPF as far as I know. Do you mind if I change that article around? (I normally don't bother separating out the military and political wings of rebel groups in most cases as you immediately end up with problems of where to draw the line between them.) Just to illustrate how much information I procrastinate putting into the wiki, many months ago in the Glossary of Armed Groups on Second Congo War, I had stated that the RPA had changed its name to the Rwandan Defense Forces in 2002, but I have no idea where I sourced that!

I would appreciate some advice on how to organize these articles. Should RPA redirect to Rwandan Defense Forces, or should Rwandan Patriotic Army have its own article to focus on its existence from creation through the formal end of the Second Congo War? Thanks, BanyanTree 06:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

 * Nice work on Rwandan Armed Forces. Did I overload you with my brain dump above? - BanyanTree 17:03, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Use of #REDIRECT
Remember, if you put a space between the hash and REDIRECT the redirect will not work. I have corrected this mistake in Lightning Crashes. haz (user talk) 20:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Liam McHugh-Russell
Hi Zanimum. Liam McHugh-Russell is not an alumnus of U of T: he's currently a law student there, and his undergraduate degree is from Waterloo. So I've added a category for UW alumni and put him in it. :) --Saforrest 17:44, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, thanks for letting me know, Saforrest. I guess I jumped to conclusions too quickly there. --  user:zanimum

Wikimedia Canada
Hi there! I'd like to invite you to explore Wikimedia Canada, and create a list of people interested in forming a local chapter for our nation. A local chapter will help promote and improve the organization, within our great nation. We'd also like to encourage everyone to suggest projects for our national chapter to participate in. Hope to see you there!--DarkEvil 04:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Response to Saforrest regarding "The Honourable" prefixes to names
Hi Michael, welcome to Wikipedia! With regard to your addition of "The Honourable" to Josée Verner:

The convention Wikipedia has chosen thus far regarding honorific prefixes is to avoid their use in the first instance of the name. This is why there is no "Right Honourable" in the beginning of the pages for Joe Clark, Paul Martin, Stephen Harper, etc. This is mentioned in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Honorific_prefixes.

I'm not sure whether I agree with it (and I do like the fact that the French Wikipedia has chosen differently with le très honorable), but as it'd be a pain to change everything, it's probably best to go with that. --Saforrest 03:33, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Actually, I started changing them over because I saw someone else do the same; then I caught on later that it was convention not to do so, as you mentioned, so I stopped... Thanks for the heads up anyway! RealMontrealer 06:35, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry
Greetings, editor! Your name appears on List of non-admins with high edit counts. If you have not done so lately, please take a look at that page and check your listing to be sure that following the particulars are correct: Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 03:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) If you are an admin, please remove your name from the list.
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 * 3) Please check to see if you are in the right category for classification by number of edits.

Plant diseases
Hi Saforrest, I think that the category Diseases is implied to be the place for human disease only (it's under Medicine). I just realised that there is no Phytopathology category for plant diseases (I'll make one when I get time). Keep in mind that Category:Diseases is under Medicine, which does not encompass plant diseases or animal diseases. They belong in Phytopathology and Veterinary medicine, respectively. BTW, and off topic, I'm an undergrad at UW (though on a co-op term now). Small world :P ? --CDN99 02:59, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

R1a and R1a1
The reason I edited the R1a page to talk about R1a1 is that almost all of the statements on the R1a page are true specifically for R1a1. In particular if you are European, and you are R1, and you're not R1b then you are overwhelmingly likely to be R1a1. Also of interest is to consider the Cinnioglu et al (2004) Anatolia paper, one of the most revelaing papers for study of the R1 group to date, where 36 out of 36 who were R1a were also R1a1.

The interesting statements about R1a are those made about R1a1 -- even the first line of the article says that the deciding marker is M17, which is actually the deciding marker for R1a1. That's why R1a1 deserves the wikipedia article, with R1a* just a footnote, and R1a just a redirect. IMO.

So I think it would be a good idea if you could rv your edits back. -- Jheald 14:20, 27 February 2006 (UTC).

 * Yes, I think renaming the whole page to R1a1 (and updating corresponding text in the pages that link there) is probably the best way forward, if you would like to do the honours. -- Jheald 17:56, 27 February 2006 (UTC).

Haplogroup I
First of all, great job on the cleanup and structuring of the Y-DNA articles. One minor thing though, in the Haplogroup I article, you changed "Croat" to "the Balkans", which is not correct. For instance in Greek populations, haplogroup I is rather rare. According to the references in this article and some others (see for instance the Bosniaks article) it is only in Croat populations where the HG I frequency is relatively high (higher in Bosnian Croats than the Croats in Croatia). Further north (in Slovenia) and further south (Serbia, Macedonia..) the frequency of HG I drops rapidly. So while saying that the haplogroup was common for the Balkans would have perhaps been correct 2000 years ago, but not today. --Denoir 18:41, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, I would hazard to guess that there is a nationalist component to it - altough more cause than effect. The modern-day difference between the groups (who after all have shared the region for some time now) could be an indicator of historical national/ethnical segregation.  But that's a different story altogether. --Denoir 01:46, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Rwanda
I need to have you know that i appreciate your Rwanda edits on LoPbN, bcz changing the one i did - - - convention says i'm supposed to say it broke my heart - - - but the truth is worse than that. It made me nauseous to do that edit. Thinking about writing you about it put tears in my eyes, and so is writing you about it. I only hope this affects you differently, and i hope you won't need me to explain my edit. Thank you for yours. --Jerzy•t 04:13, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Fair & valuable questions. I'm not sure if it's clear to you that in my mind NPoV is in this context just another form of detail that doesn't support the LoPbN task of getting to the bio users who have some information about the name; i assume you grasp that i see detail as redundant when it is standing next to a lk to a bio that should include the same info. (Knowing that a soldier is a general very seldom helps, nor does knowing an athlete is a champion, nor a politician a Prez or PM. And sometimes having it there just confuses things: most people who know Gov. xxxx broke the Boston police strike are likely to keep looking for a more plausible possibility, or give up, when they see "30th President of the US" next to that gov's surname. On the other hand, occupation (the usual cause of notability), time, and nationality, each help often enuf to make a good standardized entry out of them, and the cases where they are identical for two identical names (usually two modern American politicians) are few enough that they can be given plenty of thot for a word, maybe two, to add to each of the pair for further dab'n of description. But i'm probably abusing your hospitality, which is why this is now in paren.)

"Activist" is my choice without hesitation, tho i'd welcome another scheme that works as well. My definition for LoPbN purposes is fairly rigorous (someone out to affect stranger's lives from outside the fundamental institutional structure that includes government, economics, education, and religion), but on reflection i think all that's required for "activist" (or its replacement) to work well is that people unfamiliar with LoPbN have some idea of some things it includes, and no real idea of how far afield from those you have to go to reach things the term is likely to exclude -- if that's true, when they don't see other entries nearby with "occupation" terms that apply to the person they're after, they are likely to say "well, maybe this is a form of activism", and to be sure to further consider the "activist" entries.

So i put abolitionists, terrorists, the French Resistance, Nazi hunters, Scouting leaders, demonstrators, and Alfred Nobel together as activists, along with people doing genocide as volunteers.

There are a few cases where for some reason i know the nationality but nothing about occupation etc.; i'm as happy to put "German" or "Rwandan" (or for that matter, probably Dutch tho it's unambiguously an adjective rather than a noun) alone as with "man" or "woman" following, especially since they would just be fillers. (But is saying "man" a coincidence? Yesterday someone added
 * *Baartman, Saartjie (1785-1815), Khoisan woman

-- who is also a bit of an emotional entry.) --Jerzy•t 07:31, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Swords of Righteousness
I saw you edited this a bunch. Nice job. You may be interested in Jeish al Taiifa al Mansoura. KI 02:56, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

CPM Hostage
At the time of my edit CBC and CNN were both reporting only that hostages had been rescued, without naming specific units. The edit was intended mainly to replace the previous statement claiming an "all-British force led by the SAS". As no other information was available.... I assumed it was best to err on the side of caution and leave the information general until the facts surfaced.

CanadianPhaedrus 05:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus

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User talk:Mark Krueger

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Here are some useful links in case you haven't already found them; *How to edit a page *How to write a great article *Naming conventions *Manual of Style If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Alexandros 18:51, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hello Mark! Do you object to me having the Wikipedia username 'Mark'? If you do, then I will change back to my original user name, 'Mark Ryan'. - mark-RYAN. 13:11, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)

New Mathematics Wikiportal
I noticed you've done some work on Mathematics articles. I wanted to point out to you the new Mathematics Wikiportal- more specifically, to the Mathematics Collaboration of the Week page. I'm looking for any math-related stubs or non-existant articles that you would like to see on Wikipedia. Additionally, I wondered if you'd be willing to help out on some of the Collaboration of the Week pages.

I encourage you to vote on the current Collaboration of the Week, because I'm very interested in which articles you think need to be written or added to, and because I understand that I cannot do the enormous amount of work required on some of the Math stubs alone. I'm asking for your help, and also your critiques on the way the portal is set up.

Please direct all comments to my user-talk page, the Math Wikiportal talk page, or the Math Collaboration of the Week talk page. Thanks a lot for your support! ral315 02:54, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)

New Mathematics Project Participants List
Hi Mark.

In case you didn't follow the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mathematics, I'm writing to you to let you know that I've converted the "WikiProject Mathematics Participants List" into a table. It is now alphabetical, includes links to the participant's talk page and contribution list, and has a field for "Areas of Interest". Since your name is on the list, I thought you might want to check and/or update your entry.

Regards, Paul August ☎ 23:14, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedians/Germany is being replaced by a category
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