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talk:Spencer family
I have added a further question there under the heading "lineage question", and I was told you could be of help with all this stuff. I hope you can be of any help. Thank you very much. VM (talk) 13:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Baron Sandys
Hello, nice to see that you're back. I have a couple of questions I think you could help me with. What names did the second and third Barons Sandys use (Moyses and Marcus, I believe although I don't have any sources). They also had a younger brother named Lord Arthur Augustus Edwin Hill (known as Augustus?). Can you also confirm that it was the third Baron who served as Comptroller of the Household and Treasurer of the Household in the 1840's and 1850's (as stated here). According to these Wikipedia articles, Whig Government 1835–1841, Whig Government 1846–1852 and Arthur Hill-Trevor, 1st Baron Trevor (as well as the two articles above), it was his nephew Lord Trevor who held these posts, but I think they are wrong (he wasn't an MP in 1841 for a start). Tryde (talk) 19:12, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. But did the second Baron Sandys use the same first name as his elder brother, the Marquess of Downshire? Tryde (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I used all his first names in the article I created on him. If we don't have a source that explicitely say what name he used, I think it's best to include all of them. I'm also going to add this discussion to the article's talk page. By the way, I was surprised that you moved Frederick John Robinson, 1st Viscount Goderich to Frederick Robinson, 1st Viscount Goderich. I have always thought he was known as F. J. Robinson before he was created a viscount. Tryde (talk) 05:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Alan Sugar
Who is "we"? Bradley0110 (talk) 10:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Reply
Hey, I've replied to your reply to my comments at Talk:Order of precedence in England and Wales. john k (talk) 02:46, 19 August 2009 (UTC)ths 4 your help can call me hp 83065591

Tom Denning
This needs to be reverted. Firstly, his most common name was simply Lord Denning, but secondly MOSTCOMMON specifically excludes people with peerages, who should go at the most appropriate title per MOS naming guidelines for peers (which is actually wrong in regards to how it's done irl, but meh). I was ignorant of this fact until a few months ago, when an attempted move by me was queried by a user citing the same thing. As per WP:MOSTCOMMON "The principal exception is in the case of naming royalty and people with titles". Ironholds (talk) 21:41, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Hi Proteus - as you seem to be offline Ironholds contacted me. I listed the matter at AN/I for review and to get consensus to over-turn. Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. I hate go against you but you don't seem to be around to present your case. Cheers Manning (talk) 12:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

 * Actually, "Lord Denning MR." is how he is known in the law reports and quoted throughout the common law world.

I happen to have your talkpage on my watchlist and I couldn't help noticing Masalai's comments which seem to be personal attacks. You can always report them on Administrators' noticeboard. Surtsicna (talk) 11:26, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Referencing
Hi ! An article you have been involved with has been tagged as being in need of  further sources to  avoid being  deleted. If you can help with these issues please see Talk:Double-barrelled name.

Declining a British honour
Hi, Proteus. I added a couple of names to the article (R. A. Butler, 3rd Marquess of Lansdowne). I know that Charles Pelham Villiers declined a peerage in 1885 or 1886. Do you know what kind of peerage he was offered (a barony or more likely a viscountcy, I presume)? Tryde (talk) 18:38, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello Proteus! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 3 of the articles that you created  are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the list:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 05:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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 * 2) Susan of Mar, Mistress of Mar -
 * 3) Charles Morris (politician) -

Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom GA review
A review to see if Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom meets Good article criteria has started, and has been put on hold. Suggestions for improvement are at Talk:Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom/GA2, and are mainly to do with coverage and neutrality, and building the lead section. Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom is one of our most high profile and popular articles, attracting an average of over 11,000 readers every day. You have made more than 30 edits to the article, and so you might be interested in helping to make the improvements needed to get it listed as a Good Article.  SilkTork  *YES! 12:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

You are back!
Dear lady, how wonderful that you are again with us! Your old folks' home has internet access? In any case, long may you persist! Masalai (talk) 13:08, 18 March 2010 (UTC)

Marquis/Marquess?
Per che the reverts? The Marquis of xxx is the standard spelling in Scotland for Peers of this rank, and the correct manner to address them is Marquis in Standard Scottish English. The Marquis of Huntly being the oldest of this rank extant in the Peerage of Scotland. English Marqu-es-ses may differ but these are, after all, Scottish Peerages you are looking at here. (BTW a quick google reveals 17,600,000 for the Scots spelling, as opposed to 1.3m for the English, and I know that they don't all refer to peers, but there you go!) see here http://www.british-civil-wars.co.uk/biog/hamilton.htm Brendandh (talk) 19:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Orders, Decorations and Medals of the United Kingdom
G'day Proteus,

I've become involved in a discussion re the future content of Orders, decorations, and medals of the United Kingdom. I am interested in your thoughts on my and Wiki-Ed's views on this (see Talk:Orders, decorations, and medals of the United Kingdom. If you are unwilling to comment on the article's talk page, I would be just as happy to correspond here. Cheers, AusTerrapin (talk) 15:56, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

Viscount Wenman
Hi. I know that you have access to some good sources and perhaps you could help me here. Was it the 2nd or 3rd viscount Wenman who sat in parliament for Oxfordshire in 1660? Was the 3rd viscount an MP at all? And how were the 2nd and 3rd viscounts related - brothers? Regards, Tryde (talk) 12:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

you're invited
Based on your contributions to wikipedia related to history, genealogy, and nobility, you may find these 2 articles and debates interesting. Both articles are related, need to be improved, and might benefit from your insight.

Articles_for_deletion/Francis_Martin_O'Donnell

Articles_for_deletion/Vice_Great_Seneschal_of_Ireland

ReidarM (talk) 12:34, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Baron Latymer and Baron Latimer
You made this comment on Talk:Baron Latimer please could you expand on your reply here? -- PBS (talk) 10:29, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Shaftesbury heir
The recent addition made to the Earl of Shaftesbury needs a full citation. At this time, the content referring to an heir is unverifiable. While the birth may be true, it needs appropriate sourcing. I have asked Dinah to make a notation to the estate website. At that time, we can add use that source. Can you add a full citation from The Times to support the addition to the article?  Cind. amuse  02:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * You provided an edit summary to the Earl of Shaftesbury article that states that "there isn't a fuller citation". Everything can be appropriately cited. To that end, I have provided the citation format within the article. Can you provide the name of the editor along with the page number of the Announcement? Simply add this information as indicated in the template. Your assistance is appreciated. Best regards,  Cind. amuse  11:28, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Hello, Proteus! Thank you for correcting my lapsus calami in the infobox in the article about Jamila M'Barek. I was wondering, isn't she still "The Right Honourable the Countess of Shaftesbury" (since neither of her stepsons is/was married)? If she is, should we omit her name from the infobox? Surtsicna (talk) 12:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Marquess of Halifax/Savile Baronets
You were involved in this page being moved a while ago; It has been moved again, and the discussion is here if you wish to comment. Swanny18 (talk) 16:44, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Earl of Cambridge
If you look at the citation for Balfour Paul Vol IV, p383, it leads one to an online Scots Peerage, dating from 1907. P383 clearly stipulates that the 4th Duke's mother, Anne Duchess of Hamilton surrendered her titles to the crown to be regranted to her son. This happened prior to the political union of 1707, and the creation of the peerage of GB. Therefore the Earldom of Cambridge and the Barony of Innerdale stand in the peerage of England. The Duke also was also granted his Great-Uncle's title of Earl of Lanark in the peerage of Scotland. Hope this clears things up? Brendandh (talk) 15:14, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

 * Sir James Balfour Paul was one of the longest standing Lord Lyons of Scotland, and I would be more inclined to follow him than Cokayne.(that with respect to Clarenceaux) Brendandh (talk) 01:26, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

Earl of Shaftesbury
You restored the inclusion of Anthony Ashley-Cooper, Lord Ashley (1900-1947) to the list of earls in the above referenced article, stating "usual to list heirs who never succeeded amongst holders". However, this is not standard practice, in accordance with either WP:MOS or WP:PEER. In fact, if they were heirs, they would have inherited the title. For example, Anthony Ashley-Cooper, Lord Ashley (1900-1947) was not an heir. I've reverted your addition to the list of Earls of Shaftesbury, since he was not in fact, either an earl or an heir. I'm puzzled why you would add him to the list. It's like that old Sesame Street song, "One of these things is not like the other one." If you seriously thought it was appropriate to add him to the list, why did you limit yourself to only adding the one individual? In all things, if you want to include the lords in the article, I would suggest either creating a separate list, or renaming the section to reflect the appropriate content within the list, i.e., Earls and Lords. To include the lords, establishes the current section heading as misleading. It would also be appropriate if you were going in this direction, to include all apparent heirs, rather than just the one. At the end of it all, the inclusion in the list of earls is not in compliance with either WP:MOS or WP:PEER. Best regards,  Cind. amuse  08:04, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Wessex children NPOV
Hullo there. I have opened a new discussion about the styling of HRH The Earl of Wessex's children: here because their articles are currently in violation of the NPOV policy. Do please drop by and have your say (and feel free to pass on the word to other concerned parties!) DBD 21:58, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

WP:VPT
Hey, why did you just revert this?  Thanks,  [ stwalkerster | talk ]  21:18, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi I have asked this to be changed because it is the incorrect spelling.

You have changed this back to the original which spells 'Ramsay MacDonald' please not that this is wrong and it should read 'Ramsey Macdonald' Thank You Jam.lawson (talk) 19:47, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
 * "The sources seem to suggest that "MacDonald" is correct. Do you have a source that says "Macdonald" is? Proteus (Talk) 21:03, 29 May 2011 (UTC)"
 * He is a descendant of my family, and in my family tree it is spelt as Macdonald. Some places spell it as MacDonald but other Macdonald, people in my family spell it Macdonald, this might be the same in his case.
 * Thanks Jam.lawson (talk) 21:37, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Query
. Kittybrewster  ☎  10:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Mary Boleyn
Hello, Proteus. An edit war seems to be developing over whether the lead should refer to her as 'Lady Mary Boleyn', I was interested in your opinion? Thanks,Boleyn (talk) 09:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Latvian
"Gardstein" is a Latvian name, according to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.127.7 (talk) 17:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Earls of Desmond: numbering
Hi Proteus, I see a few years back (6 years ago this month, gasp) you were involved in a debate (at Talk:Gerald FitzGerald, 15th Earl of Desmond) on renumbering some of the Earls of Desmond according to the published sources available. I've gone through some of the public domain sources that have become available since and created a proposal (or three) on how the numbering might be changed, it'd be great if you could take a look and see what your preferred option would be.

The discussion is on Talk:Earl_of_Desmond. KerryMuso (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Denning
See the exceptions to the common naming rule; given that this is the third time you've tried to move it to the incorrect title, could you perhaps take the hint? ;p Ironholds (talk) 16:24, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Jimbo wants to delete your work
Hi Proteus. I see that you originally added this material a year ago. Now Jimbo himself suggests it be deleted as unsourced. I have to say that I cannot easily find support for this material in the reference you cited, and for all I can tell it may be WP:SYNTH at best. But I want to make sure you know about this so that you can provide a clear source if one exists. --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 03:25, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Proteus,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at obar@msu.edu. I will be more than happy to speak with you.

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Baronets of first creation
A baronet of first creation must swear an oath of allegiance under the Promissory Oaths Act 1868 s 14(5). Is this still the case? Kittybrewster  ☎  15:59, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Andrew Lloyd Webber
Please can you have a look at the talk page? Kittybrewster  ☎  10:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Article moving
Why did you revert my movings of the Kathleen Kennedy and William Cavendish articles? They had rather long titles and I was making them more concise and easier for people. The whole "___ of Hartington" really isn't needed in their article titles. XXSNUGGUMSXX (talk) 15:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Nicholas Russell, 6th Earl Russell for deletion
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Hillary Rodham Clinton move request
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Global account
Hi Proteus! As a Steward I'm involved in the upcoming unification of all accounts organized by the Wikimedia Foundation (see m:Single User Login finalisation announcement). By looking at your account, I realized that you don't have a global account yet. In order to secure your name, I recommend you to create such account on your own by submitting your password on Special:MergeAccount and unifying your local accounts. If you have any problems with doing that or further questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Cheers, —DerHexer (Talk) 21:20, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Ada Lovelace
Hello, Proteus. I note your recent edit to Ada Lovelace. There is a debate on its talk page that might interest you. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC).

City of London …city of London?
Completely agree with your edit and left a note on the editor's talk (trying) to explain why the distinctions are necessary.Pincrete (talk) 11:07, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

Straw poll on the use of The Rt. Hon.
Hello. I have created a straw poll on whether The Right Honourable should be used in infoboxes for all Barons, Viscounts and Earls or just for Privy Counsellors. The poll is here. I wish that you could give your opinion there and maybe comment. --Editor FIN (talk) 05:25, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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A new user right for New Page Patrollers
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Demanding consensus while refusing to engage
The funny thing is, I now have two editors haranguing me to obtain consensus, yet neither of them is actually willing to engage in the discussion. I just keep looking at WP:V for the part that says material doesn't have to be verifiable, as long as nobody responds to the attempts at discussion made by the person challenging it. Perhaps you could show me where that bit is? Agricolae (talk) 19:52, 5 February 2018 (UTC)

Field
... but surely not Middlesex ? ‑ ‑ Gareth Griffith‑Jones The Welsh Buzzard ‑ ‑ 08:58, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Baron's Heir Apparent
Hello Proteus!

I was hoping you might be able to help me with this scenario: a Baron holds two baronies, X and Y, which were inherited separately and were not created together (such as in a barony such as Baron X and Y). Baron X is considerably older than the other, thus takes precedence. Can the eldest son of the Baron hold Baron Y as a curtesy title since his father is not a single-title peer? If not, why? His father will not use this other title, so is it simply because he is a lower noble that he is not allowed to give his son a courtesy title? Otherwise, is it possibly a choice that the son can make whether or not it is proper to take the barony Y instead of The Right Honorable Mr. Z?

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:648:8600:1AC0:64A6:89AB:9678:A8B6 (talk) 00:05, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

ArbCom 2019 special circular

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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
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Sean Connery's name.
Here's the support for the appearance of Sean Connery's name as "Sir Sean Thomas Connery."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sean_Connery#Proper_appearance_of_name_%28Sean_Connery_is_neither_KBE_nor_CBE%29

In short, although he was born "Thomas Sean Connery," his own webpage refers to him as "Sir Sean," and his name appeared in the London Gazette as "Sir Sean Thomas Connery."

City of London Police Ranks
Hi Proteus. You reverted changes to new vector images for these ranks with the comment that the collar numbers were wrong. Would you be able to elaborate what is wrong with them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.90.206.255 (talk) 16:31, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Most Noble

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Frederick Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood, 1st Marquess of Dufferin and Ava
Dear Proteus. I see you have a lot of experience with aristocratic biographies and you seem to be one of the editors from whom I picked up the habit of bolding the subject's titles when they first appear in the body of the biography. I have submitted Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty for an A-Class review and have been told by a reviewer to unbolden these titles. I thought such styling was prescribed somewhere in WP:BIOGRAPHY but I cannot find where (if it exists), or perhaps it was once there but has been changed? I found you use such boldings in Frederick Hamilton-Temple-Blackwood, 1st Marquess of Dufferin and Ava (where you added the bolding of Baron Dufferin on 12:42 9 Oct 2004), Charles FitzGerald, 1st Baron Lecale, and Charles FitzGerald, 1st Baron Lecale]. Could you please enlighten me. With many thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:34, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

"Simon Christopher Joseph Fraser, 15th Lord Lovat" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Simon Christopher Joseph Fraser, 15th Lord Lovat. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 2 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Leofbrj (talk) 14:09, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled
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Met Police
Hi Proteus

Do you have any thougths on where I could include the information I added to the Met Police article? I agree its not as high profile as the others. I think maybe expanding this section out into its own article would be suitable but I'm not sure what to call it, any ideas?

Thanks

John Cummings (talk) 16:58, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

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New jack swing

New jack swing, new jack, or swingbeat is a fusion genre of the rhythms and production techniques of hip hop and dance-pop, and the urban contemporary sound of R&B. Spearheaded by producers Teddy Riley, Bernard Belle, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, new jack swing was most popular from the late 1980s to early 1990s.

Merriam-Webster's online dictionary defines new jack swing as "pop music usually performed by black musicians that combines elements of jazz, funk, rap, and rhythm and blues." Digital synthesizers were heavily used, notably the Yamaha DX7, Korg M1, and Roland D-50. New jack swing took up the trend of using sampled beats and tunes and created beats using electronic drum machines, such as the SP-1200 sampler and Roland TR-808, to lay an "insistent beat under light melody lines and clearly enunciated vocals." The Roland TR-808 was sampled to create distinctive, syncopated, swung rhythms, with its snare sound being especially prominent.

History
Kyle West remembered 1985 as the year he listened to new jack swing with Teddy Riley. Riley as well as drummer Lenny White credit the start of new jack swing to English singer-songwriter and producer Junior Giscombe and his 1985 single "Oh Louise". Some music critics said Full Force's "Alice, I Want You Just for Me" (1985) was the first new jack swing song, and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis called Full Force and said Alice was their favorite song, and their favorite group was Full Force. After that, Jam & Lewis produced Janet Jackson's digital R&B album, Control (1986). Musicologist Richard J. Ripani PhD, author of The New Blue Music: Changes in Rhythm & Blues, 1950–1999 (2006), observed that the album was one of the first successful records to influence the rise of new jack swing by creating a fusion of R&B, rap, funk, disco and synthesized percussion. The new jack swing sound is particularly evident in the second single, "Nasty". The success of Control, according to Ripani, bridged the gap between R&B and rap music. He asserts that "since Jackson's album was released in 1986 and was hugely successful, it is not unreasonable to assume that it had at least some impact on the new jack swing creations of Teddy Riley." Mantronix's early records in the mid-1980s also had new jack elements.

The term "new jack swing" was coined in an October 18, 1987 Village Voice profile of Teddy Riley by Barry Michael Cooper. "New Jack" was a slang term (meaning ~'Johnny-come-lately' ) used in a song by Grandmaster Caz of the Cold Crush Brothers, and "swing" was intended by Cooper to draw an "analogy between the music played at the speakeasies of F. Scott Fitzgerald's time to the crackhouses of Teddy Riley's time."

The term "new jack swing" describes the sound produced and engineered by R&B/hip hop artist and producer Teddy Riley. Riley is an American R&B and hip hop singer-songwriter, musician and record producer. He led the band Guy in the late 1980s and Blackstreet in the 1990s. Riley said, "I define the term [new jack swing] as a new kid on the block who's swinging it." The defining feature of Riley's music was the introduction of swingbeats, "a rhythmic pattern using offbeat accented 16th note triplets." In an interview with Revolt TV in 2017, Andre Harrell called Riley the inventor of the sound, hailing him "the king of New Jack Swing, because he invented it."

Music website VH1.com notes that, while "hip-hop and R&B are kissing cousins" in the 2000s, "the two genres were seldom mentioned in the same breath" in the early 1980s. However, in the late 1980s, "during the era of high-top fades, and parachute pants, producer Teddy Riley and label boss Andre Harrell successfully fused and marketed the two sounds in a sexy, exclamatory music that critics termed new jack swing. It sparked a revolution." Riley stated that before new jack swing, "Rappers and singers didn't want anything to do with one another", because "Singers were soft, rappers were street." Riley's new style blended "sweet melody and big beats." The sensibilities of Riley's fusion of the styles would forever change pop music/hip-hop music pairing and was further popularized with Bad Boy's dominance of the late '90s through much of the same techniques. Riley, a 19-year-old man from Harlem, quickly became an A-list producer and commanded big fees to add his sound to major artist projects.

Influences
The 1989 film Ghostbusters II helped spread new jack swing with its theme song, "On Our Own" by Bobby Brown (written by L.A. Reid, Babyface and Daryl Simmons), who was along with Riley nicknamed "The King of New Jack Swing". NBC sitcom The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air also boosted the spread of this culture, as the star of the show, Will Smith, was known initially for his hip-hop duo with DJ Jazzy Jeff. During the first episode of the series, Will Smith dances to the Soul II Soul new jack swing single "Back to Life (However Do You Want Me)". In other episodes, he sings "Teddy's Jam" and "Rump Shaker". A Different World, Waynehead and In Living Color are other television programs of the era which exhibit influences from the new jack swing style. Video Soul, Soul Train, Showtime at the Apollo as well as the late night talk show The Arsenio Hall Show also helped to promote these acts.

House Party with Kid 'n Play, Boyz n the Hood, Juice, New Jack City, Boomerang, Above the Rim, Poetic Justice, used New Jack Swing songs in their soundtracks. Dance-oriented artists such as Michael Jackson, the Good Girls, Jane Child, Tammy Lucus, Abstrac, Nayobe, Paula Abdul and Bell Biv DeVoe also have new jack swing elements in their late 1980s and early 1990s output.

To date the most successful new jack swing album is Dangerous, released in 1991 by Michael Jackson, produced by Jackson and Riley, which has sold over 30 million copies worldwide.

Golden age
Many songs with elements of new jack swing peaked in the top 10 of the U.S. R&B and U.S. Billboard Hot 100 chart throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s. The height of its popularity was 1988-1993, with it reaching its peak in 1990.

In the Spring of 1988, Keith Sweat's first new jack swing song "I Want Her" peaked at number 5 on the US Billboard Hot 100 chart. It is considered the first official New Jack Swing hit. A few months later, Bobby Brown's "My Prerogative" would take the genre even further.

The musician and record producer Teddy Riley's group Guy, a group which was one of the early pioneers of hip-hop and R&B had a hit with the song "Groove Me", which went to number 4 in the US R&B charts, and the 1988 song "Teddy's Jam", which ranked number 5 in the US R&B charts. Single "My Fantasy" was from the OST Do the Right Thing. "New Jack City" was on the soundtrack for the film of the same title. Johnny Kemp's "Just Got Paid" also cracked the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100 in 1988 and went to number 1 on the Hot Dance Music/Club Play. The musician and Al B. Sure! had success with "Nite and Day" and other two singles went to the Top 5 of the R&B chart in 1988.

In 1988, Bobby Brown began his string of Top 10 Billboard hits from his second album, Don't Be Cruel, which ranked number 1 in the US. In that same year, Paula Abdul had the US number 1 hit "Straight Up". Tony! Toni! Toné! had three songs in the top ten of the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Singles & Tracks, including "Little Walter" which hit number 1. New Edition, after being in a transition due to the departure of Bobby Brown, recruited Johnny Gill as his placement, leading to the release of the Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced album Heart Break, which spun off five hit singles "If It Isn't Love", "You're Not My Kind of Girl", "Can You Stand the Rain", "Crucial", and "N.E. Heartbreak".

In 1988, Wreckx-n-Effect, a Teddy Riley-produced group which garnered press attention regarding their use of bikini-clad women in their videos, released "New Jack Swing", helping to popularize the new name for the emerging style. That same year, Fenderella garnered a hit with "Mr. DJ", a song with featured Doug E. Fresh, who was known as the "human beatbox" for his realistic imitations of drum machines and other hip-hop sounds.

Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis produced seven top 5 singles off Janet Jackson's 1989 album Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814, which merged the Minneapolis sound with new jack swing. The album included a number of successful tracks, such as the number one Billboard Hot 100 hits "Miss You Much". Karyn White, also produced by the Flyte Time team also had hits in the late 1980s and early '90s. Sheena Easton also had a few hits from her 1991 album What Comes Naturally produced by hitmaker Vassel Benford. Other notable new jack swing artists between 1988 and 1993 included Big Daddy Kane's "I Get The Job Done" and Kool Moe Dee's "I Go To Work", Heavy D. & the Boyz, Teddy Riley and Tammy Lucas, Deja, Abstrac, Nayobe, The Good Girls, Starpoint, Father MC, the Winans, Omar Chandler, 3rd Avenue, James Ingram, Jane Child, Boy George, Kashif, Johnny Gill, Cristopher Williams and Ready for the World. Producer Babyface had a hit with his song "It's No Crime", which ranked number 7 in the US charts and number 1 on the US R&B charts. Another Teddy Riley-produced group, Today, had a hit with "Girl I Got My Eyes on You", which garnered a number 1 spot on the US R&B charts.

After the band New Edition broke up, its former members formed several splinter groups or acts, including Bell Biv DeVoe, Johnny Gill, Ralph Tresvant, and Bobby Brown. In 1990, several ex-New Edition members had hit songs. Bell Biv DeVoe's songs "Poison" and "Do Me!", as well as Johnny Gill's single "Rub You the Right Way", all made it to number 3 in the US top 100. Ralph Tresvant had a number 4 hit (US top 100 charts) and number 1 hit (US R&B) with his song "Sensitivity", with another on the House Party 2 soundtrack "Yo Baby Yo". Also in 1990 pop singer Whitney Houston recorded "I'm Your Baby Tonight", produced by Babyface & Antonio "L.A." Reid (later become record executive). The single topped the US Hot 100, giving Babyface his first produced number 1 song while further helping to bring the genre to the mainstream. Fourth single "My Name Is Not Susan" also utilized the same style, peaking at number 20 on the US Top 100.

In 1990, Samuelle, a former member of the disco-infused dance-urban group Club Nouveau had a number 1 R&B hit with "So You Like What You See". Troop also had a number 1 hit with a single from their second album, Attitude, entitled "Spread My Wings". "Feels Good" by the Oakland, California group Tony! Toni! Toné! reached number 1 on the R&B charts in 1990, and it also placed on the US top 100 (number 9) and on the dance charts (number 3). Today charted again in 1990 with "Why You Gettin' Funky on Me?", which reached number 2 on the R&B charts. "Let's Chill" by Guy garnered a number 3 spot on the US R&B charts.

"Feels Like Another One" is a 1991 single co-written and recorded by singer Patti LaBelle off her album, Burnin. The new jack swing-styled track was the leading track for LaBelle's eleventh solo album and featured a rap from rapper Big Daddy Kane. The track became successful on the R&B chart as it ended up peaking at number three on the Hot R&B Singles chart. The video for the song was shot at the Apollo Theater and also featured Kane, who appeared at LaBelle's show wearing a tux. The song would help LaBelle's album go gold. Color Me Badd had a number 1 hit with "I Wanna Sex You Up". That same year, Christopher Williams released a single "I'm Dreamin'" from the New Jack City soundtrack, which became a number 1 single on Billboard′s Hot R&B/Hip-Hop chart. Boyz II Men's debut single "Motownphilly" was a number 1 R&B and top 5 U.S. pop hit. "I Like the Way (The Kissing Game)" by Hi-Five garnered the US number 1 and R&B number 1 spots. Jodeci's debut album Forever My Lady garnered three number 1 R&B Hits in the fall of 1991 ("Forever My Lady", "Stay", and "Come and Talk To Me"). "Exclusivity" by Damian Dame charted as number-one R&B single, spending two weeks at the top position, a position also achieved by the Rude Boys with their song "Are You Lonely For Me".

In 1992, Michael Jackson's singles "Remember the Time" and "In the Closet" placed in the top 10 on the Billboard Hot 100, the top 2 in the Hot Dance Music/Club category, and reached number 1 in the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop category. "Jam" also reached the top 5 in Hot Dance Music/Club and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop. Joe Public's single "Live and Learn" hit number 4 on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100, number 3 on Billboard′s Hot R&B/Hip-Hop chart and becoming the group's most successful single. In 1993 Teddy Riley's new group Blackstreet got new jack swing hit "Baby Be Mine". Chuckii Booker scored a number 1 R&B hit with his song "Games". That same year, "She's Got That Vibe" by R. Kelly and Public Announcement reached the number 7 position on the R&B charts. "Weak" by SWV (Sisters With Voices) hit the number one spot on both the US top 100 and the R&B charts. In 1993: "Don't Walk Away" by Jade made it to number 4 and number 3 in the US top 100 and R&B charts, respectively. The New Jack R&B group II D Extreme scored a hit in 1993 with their New Jack ballad "Cry No More". TLC's debut album, Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip (1992) had several hits, including "What About Your Friends", "Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg" and "Baby-Baby-Baby".

In 1995, Montell Jordan had a number one new jack swing hit, in "This is How We Do It", which after its release saw the popularity of the genre decline. As hip hop culture became increasingly ubiquitous, the pop-crossover approach and perceived artifice of new jack swing began to lose its appeal with young urban listeners. Even the creator of the New Jack Swing, Teddy Riley, made his sound evolve with his second supergroup BLACKStreet, with their 1994's eponymous first album. A sound he sometimes called "Heavy R&B" in interviews.

The last hit single to use the classic new jack swing sound was Michael Jackson's "Blood on the Dance Floor", released in 1997.

Incorporation into pop music
Australian pop singer Kylie Minogue incorporated a strong new jack swing sound into her 1991 album Let's Get to It, most notably the lead single "Word Is Out". The album and singles achieved notable success in the UK, Australia and throughout Europe.

American pop singer Bruno Mars infused elements into his 2016 third album 24K Magic, with fifth single "Finesse" being completely influenced by new jack swing. The song was a commercial success, peaking at number two in New Zealand, number three in the United States and Canada, and the top ten of Australia, Ireland, the Netherlands and the United Kingdom.

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 * Bodyline (cricket)
 * Keep - Gareth Owen, Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - ChrisG,

 * Montreal Canadiens
 * Keep - Gareth Owen
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat

 * Summer Olympic Games
 * Keep - Gareth Owen, Kingturtle
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat

Other

 * Anno Domini
 * Keep - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat
 * Remove

 * Bulldogging
 * Keep - Imacomp
 * Remove - Kingturtle

 * Doctor Doom
 * Keep - Auric The Rad
 * Remove

 * Freedom fries
 * Keep
 * Remove

 * Freemasonry
 * Keep - Imacomp
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Blueboar, Vidkun

 * Gulliver's Travels
 * Keep Bmills
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat

 * Hebrew calendar
 * Keep - Kingturtle, r3m0t
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat

 * Horse-breaking
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, zandperl

 * Horseshoe
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Bmills. moink

 * Leet
 * Keep - Secretlondon
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Alex.tan

 * Nude celebrities on the Internet
 * Keep
 * Remove -Kingturtle, Bmills, Alex.tan

 * Political correctness
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Dbroadwell, Secretlondon

 * Science fiction
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, ChrisG, DavidA

 * Sheepshead
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle

 * Sniper
 * Keep
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat

 * Spacecraft propulsion
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle

 * Tea
 * Keep - Muriel Victoria, Tuf-Kat, Wikikiwi, Gentgeen, Chadloder
 * Remove

Wikipedia

 * Wikipedia FAQ
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, r3m0t

 * WikiProject U.S. States
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat


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Wikipedia:Historical archive/Refreshing brilliant prose - History and religion

This poll is now closed Filiocht | Blarneyman 12:00, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

These articles concerning History and Religion''' were added to Brilliant prose before the institution of the Nomination system that is presently in use. Moreover, some of them are more than a year old and the standards of wikipedia had (fortunately) improved since then.

Now we call upon all wikipedians to have a say on these articles. You can vote only with your signature for:
 * Keep or
 * Remove

Please add short comments within parentheses after your vote, and long comments on the talk page.

Within a month, on the new year, the Brilliant prose page will be refreshed according to the voting. Articles with no vote at all will be considered boring and will be removed.

Vote also on:
 * Refreshing brilliant prose - Science
 * Refreshing brilliant prose - People and culture
 * Refreshing brilliant prose - Others

History

 * Battle of Jutland
 * Keep Arwel, TeunSpaans (excellent, detailed info, maps should be added for clarity), Den fjättrade ankan, Warofdreams (agree, add maps), Karl Schalike, Nico
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Ugen64, Gentgeen (too much information), Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Behistun Inscription
 * Keep - Gentgeen, Warofdreams (is there a pic anywhere?), Vardion
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Byzantine Empire
 * Keep - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams (article covers basics v clearly), Karl Schalike, Vardion
 * Remove - I'm moving my vote, because there is just so much to say about the Byzantine Empire, and the article doesn't really say a whole lot, despite having been greatly expanded since it was first listed. It probably needs to be split up in longer pieces, or something. Adam Bishop, Lord Emsworth

 * Chinese history
 * Keep - Alex.tan (should be renamed to History of China), Warofdreams, Vardion
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * East Germany
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, TeunSpaans, Lou I, Warofdreams, Karl Schalike, Nico, Lord Emsworth

 * Falkland Islands War
 * Keep - Kingturtle, Ugen64, Alex.tan, Gentgeen, :ChrisG, Lou I, Vardion, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams

 * History of Egypt
 * Keep - TeunSpaans
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Vardion (for reason below), Lord Emsworth
 * It is in the process of being rewritten and should be removed until it is finished (when no doubt it will be brilliant once again). Adam 05:32, 6 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * History of England
 * Keep Bmills (but see my comment on talk page), Kingturtle, Vardion
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Lord Emsworth

 * History of Germany
 * Keep - TeunSpaans, Karl Schalike, Nico
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Lord Emsworth

 * History of Levant
 * Keep - TeunSpaans
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Lord Emsworth

 * History of Scotland
 * Keep - Bmills, TeunSpaans, Warofdreams, Vardion, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Nico

 * History of the Netherlands
 * Keep - Warofdreams, Karl Schalike
 * Remove - Muriel Victoria (incomplete), Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * History of the United States
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Infrogmation, Lou I, Tempshill, Warofdreams, Nico, Lord Emsworth

 * Irish Houses of Parliament
 * Keep - Bmills, Warofdreams, Vardion, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, DanKeshet, Nico

 * Krakow
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Nico, Lord Emsworth

 * Nagasaki
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Vardion (still contains unintegrated info), Lord Emsworth

 * Operation Market Garden
 * Keep - TeunSpaans
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, DanKeshet, Lord Emsworth

 * Peloponnesian War
 * Keep - Kingturtle, Warofdreams, Vardion, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Adam Bishop

 * September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks
 * Keep - Vardion
 * Remove Jiang, Kingturtle, Ugen64, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Nico, Lord Emsworth

 * Treblinka extermination camp
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Nico, Lord Emsworth

 * World War I
 * Keep - Wikikiwi, Vardion, Nico
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Warofdreams, Lord Emsworth

Religion and beliefs

 * The Book of Mormon
 * Keep
 * Remove - Smerdis of Tlön, —Eloquence (hijacked by Mormons, POV), Tuf-Kat, TeunSpaans (not NPOV), COGDEN (article is still rudimentary), Lord Emsworth

 * Christianity
 * Keep - Muriel Victoria, Mkmcconn, ugen64, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat

 * End times
 * Keep - Kingturtle
 * Remove - Mkmcconn 21:46, 13 Dec 2003 (UTC) Of the several articles on eschatology, this is the weakest; and they all are weak, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Greek mythology (and related pages)
 * Keep - Smerdis of Tlön, Karl Schalike
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Idolatry
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Norse mythology (category)
 * Keep Bmills (but see my comment on talk page)
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth
 * Remove - Contains many inaccuracies and is somewhat poorly written (I hope to have time to fix it eventually). Haukurth

 * Protestantism
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Scientology
 * Keep
 * Remove - Kingturtle, Tuf-Kat, Lord Emsworth

 * Sons of Noah
 * Keep - Gentgeen
 * Remove - Tuf-Kat, Karl Schalike, Lord Emsworth, Alex.tan


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User talk:HappyDog

FNORD
Hi! This is Icarus!, being non-Wiki (I'm not logged in...), saying thanx for the work on the Discordianism page! Keep it up!24.176.20.60 16:20, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Some old stuff
User:Tim Starling/Test1 is not needed, it just hasn't been worth the effort to delete it. If it annoys you, then I guess I can get rid of it. -- Tim Starling 08:29, Dec 18, 2003 (UTC)
 * If it's no longer required for anything, then it'd tidy things up a bit. Cheers! HappyDog 22:54, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Hi, please could you stop removing those links from Cyp's signature. I believe he is experimenting to see if the phrase will appear on Special:Wantedpages so he might not be too pleased if you remove them all! Also, I'd rather my watchlist wasn't filled up with fixed dead link summaries. :) It just makes it harder to see whether any real changes have occurred to the pages. Cheers, Angela.

Not THE Mark Clements formerly of MoH?

 * erm... Ministry of Health? I don't think so...

Archiving

 * Hi. I archive whenever the page is big (more than 32Kbytes). I don't really read what I am archiving, I just start from the top and I move some contents to an archive page. Actually it is not a job that I enjoy, it's tiresome and boring, but I do it in order to keep VP's size small. The problem with the Village pump is a community problem: It fills very quickly and it becomes very big. We (the Wikipedia community) need to solve this problem somehow. Even now, the VP is more than 32Kbytes and people with slow connections and certain browsers may experience problems. I try to keep the Village pump and the Reference desk accessible to anybody, so I try to reduce its size (ideally to less than 32Kbytes, but usually I allow it to be 40-45Kbytes because I know it fills so quickly that even one day discussions may fill it up) by archiving its contents. Until the community finds some way to solve the VP problem (probably by creating more specific fora), I don't see what else can I do except from mercilessly archiving in order to let people with slow connections be able to access the VP. We also have problems with the servers and big pages create more problems. Sorry for this, but I think nobody wants a 80KB or 100KB Village pump: It would be just unusable. You are free to move archived discussion again into the Village pump. Delete the discussion from the archiving page and move it at the end of the Village pump. Or, tell me which discussion you want me to restore and I will do it. The archiving pages are not protected so you can edit them (you can even continue your discussion there). I am sorry if I archived active discussion, but I just try to keep VP accessible and easy-to-use. You may consider having some discussion outside VP (at some talk page) and just putting a link in VP. Optim 17:28, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

 * Would you prefer me not to archive VP again, and let you to archive VP instead? I don't have a problem with this, as long as someone keeps VP's size less than or close to 32Kbytes. Optim 17:36, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for understanding the VP's problem. Actually I also have lost active discussion about one article I was editing because someone archived it! yes it is annoying, but I didn't say anything because I knew the archiver had no other choice (VP was big). Now whenever I am about to initialise some big discussion which is of interest to the whole community, I start the discussion somewhere else (for example, a subpage of my userpage or some talk page) and I just put a link in VP (something like "those who are interested to discuss about this matter, visit this talk page"). We (all wikipedians) really need to find some solution to the VP problem soon: it suffers from overpopulation :( Optim 18:02, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I don't see any blank lines, though I think someone else has just changed the Mediawiki message, so maybe that's why. :) Do you still see them? Angela. 04:26, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

Oh, I thought you meant blank lines at the top. I hadn't seen those ones. I've moved the interlanguage links out of the message and back to the pump. This seems to have solved it I think. Angela. 04:44, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

The links you are adding are to pages currently listed on VfD. It might be a good idea to wait until they are more stable before linking them everywhere. Angela. 00:12, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)

No, I mean the Community Information Directory page and others like it that you are linking to. These pages might not stay, and if they do, their titles are not yet decided. It would be pointless to link to them all now and then have to change that again in a day or so. It would also be better to add the links slowly so watchlists are not rendered useless. Angela. 00:20, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)

Oh! I hadn't noticed that. Good plan. :) Still, adding them more slowly would still be a good thing. Angela. 00:31, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)

There's no need to apologise. :) Angela. 01:02, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)

Don't worry, you're very low on the list of things that bug me. ;) Angela. 01:07, Feb 10, 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. :) Angela. 19:28, Feb 14, 2004 (UTC)

Refreshing brilliant prose
Hi, thought I'd let you know that the Refreshing brilliant prose voting has ended. The discussion has now moved over to Featured article candidates to determing what should happen to these pages. Thanks, Gentgeen 19:37, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hey HappyDog, thanks for stopping by my talk page. After wondering for a few minutes whether or not my memory retention had deteriated beyond all hope, I checked the page history and it turns out that Eloquence removed the dictionary entry. Not sure whether or not he added or checked at wiktionary. Take care, and good fortune. nsh 18:43, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)

Ordering of "N is also" lists
I agree with you that the "N is also" lists in the number articles should be sorted by widest relevance, and I also think that relevance should be judged from a secular standpoint (since for me, for example, the bar mitzvah age is more important than the atomic number of aluminum). Therefore, I agree with you that Wikipedia should put aluminum ahead of bar mitzvah. But what I'm taking issue with is your suggestion in your edit summary that an edit war could start over this. I'd like to think that Jewish Wikipedians would be sensible and not try to impose their views on others. Robert Happelberg 16:48, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * I agree with your edit too, but like Bob, I didn't quite like your edit summary. For me, "edit war" is a far more unlucky thing to say than "thirteen". So I'm knocking on wood, hoping no one starts one of those over this just because that unlucky word was uttered! PrimeFan 17:37, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Sorry - didn't mean to imply anything by that. I've just had experiences where people haven't understood my edit and have just reverted instinctively, and wanted to make sure that if anyone disagreed (or just plain missed my point - which is obviously not the case here) we could talk about it first. I didn't really expect a 'war' as such! --HappyDog 19:05, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Bones in the human body
How many bones in the human body? There's a discussion on this subject at Talk:200 (number), also involving movies. Anton Mravcek 21:29, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

Inline tex
''For style issues regarding the typesetting of math, see Wikipedia:WikiProject Mathematics. In particular, please avoid using this feature as part of a line of regular text, as the formulas don't align properly and the font is too large.'' -- from Wikipedia:Tex markup page

It's current wikipedia policy to use inline tex markup as little as possible. If it's possible to render something in HTML without losing meaning, then this is preferred. If something really needs tex, then go ahead. But, this is rare. If something longer than a couple symbols really requires tex, then it's best to put it on a separate line. Revolver 01:58, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

 * Hi, again. You asked what article I was referring to. It was Integer (computer science). And I think I came across this on another user's discussion page, where you questioned him/her on why the in-line tex was reverted.
 * I see you like Monty Python. I'm semi-obsessed with Fawlty Towers, thinking of making pages for each episode sometime. Are you interested in doing part of this? (I don't even know, maybe each episode already has its own article, a few months ago I checked and they didn't.) Revolver 18:37, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Translation into English
Please see my remark/question at Wikipedia_talk:Translation_into_English -- Jmabel 17:17, Sep 23, 2004 (UTC)

Talk:translation
I'm hoping that we can begin to work out the problems on Talk:Translation. I'm trying to mediate; please leave your comments in the new topic. Thanks, Whosyourjudas (talk) 02:34, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

 * You added a short suggested message to my page (the Wikimedia Compatible License) which would be a great thing to do if you added that to your page. I created a template which aims to do the same thing at "  ".  (See Template:WikimediaTextLicensing).  I suppose either your text or the template would be fine.  Later! RM 16:07, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

WikiSpecies Logo
Hello! Thanks for your offer for brightening up the wikispecies logo, I like the idea of the wikimedia colors. However, I'm on vacation now and don't have access to the original file, but maybe the small png at http://species.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikispecies.png is useful. I'll come back to you after christmas, best, Benedikt

Nice Idea
As I am very fond of stub-sorting (I know, that's weird indeed): Thx for the compu-soft-stub Lectonar 13:56, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Stack of Books
When you proposed the "Stack of Books" logo at Wikisource you also recognized that the eventual winner would need to sign over his rights to the design to the Wikimedia Foundation. The matter has progressed to the point where it looks like we will be having a final vote between that and the stylized iceberg. Could you please indicate on your Wikisource user page that you are the designer of that proposed logo, and that you are willing to transfer all your rights under copyright and trademark law to the Wikimedia Foundation if it is finally chosen. Eclecticology 20:46, 2005 Feb 21 (UTC)

Namesdays
Oh, sure, that's OK. I was just looking in Pages_needing_attention/Culture_and_Fine_Arts and couldn't find it there. Maybe Pages needing attention/Cultural studies should be merged with it. -- Beland 05:20, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Links in headings
I thought links in headings were fine--I'm not that fond of them, actually, but I see them in wikipedia all over the place. If it's against policy, I'll start unlinking them. Quill 21:16, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Caesar
ehm, why did you revert my grammar correction? Just curious, Kosebamse 05:57, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah well, no problem :-) Kosebamse 15:09, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

About right to left languages
hi friend, in this page of wikisource http://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Scriptorium/Language_domain_proposal you said it's imposible to create a wikisource for right to left languages, but i didn't understand why was that, especially that hebrew is a right to left language and it has it's own subdomain!!!

 * hello anonymous! I think you are confusing me with someone else, as I have made no contributions to the page in question, and I don't think I've ever expressed an opinion regarding right-to-left languages in my life!  I did archive some old discussions from the Scriptorium by moving them to that page, but I don't think they were related to this subject either. --HappyDog 16:28, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikisun
Hi, you need to tag your proposed logos with a copyright tag or else they will be deleted from WikiCommons: Image:Wikisun1.png, Image:Wikisun2.png, Image:Wikisun3.png and Image:Wikisun4.png. Thuresson 8 July 2005 18:16 (UTC)

Locating a bug report
Hi, I found bug #383 which appears to describe a problem I've encountered. You say there that you opened a new bug to replace it, but I haven't been able to locate it (and I'm not really sure how to look) - could you perhaps provide a reference? Cheers, Hv 13:42, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Date links
Since you have taken an interest in links. Please be kind enough to vote for my new bot application to reduce overlinking of dates where they are not part of date preferences. bobblewik 23:21, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Tarmac Photo
I have taken one of your Tarmac photos for use at Pavement_(material). I think it fits in there quite nicely, even though that is what your side of the pond would call 'Pavement'... :) --Mdwyer 05:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Logo contests
Hi! Since you are one of the people who proposed very well-designed logos over here, I thought you might be interested in the contests for a meta:logo for Incubator and a meta:New logo for Wiktionary. I'd love to see some proposals from you. =] Looking forward to your participation! — Nightst a  llion  (?) 06:02, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

HappyDog/WikiDB
Hi! I like a lot your concept about what WikiDB can be. Can you tell me if you have plans to develop this kind of facility as an extension to Mediawiki? Thanks a lot. IAlmeida 17:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

 * It is very much in development! I am not far from a working prototype.  I will announce it in all the usual places when it is ready to go live, but in the meantime, thanks for your interest. I am pretty excited about it... --HappyDog 00:49, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

PROD on Category:Year-branched categories
Hello, I transferred your PROD on a category to WP:CFD because PROD does not handle categories due to specially handling requirements. 132.205.44.134 05:41, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Thanks. --HappyDog 14:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Doing something about the ridiculous date autoformatting/linking mess
Dear Happy—you may be interested in putting your name to, or at least commenting on this new push to get the developers to create a parallel syntax that separates autoformatting and linking functions. IMV, it would go a long way towards fixing the untidy blueing of trivial chronological items, and would probably calm the nastiness between the anti- and pro-linking factions in the project. The proposal is to retain the existing function, to reduce the risk of objection from pro-linkers. Tony 15:05, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Last change / Long Integer
Thanks for making improvements to the long int page, especially the table format. Min range / max range didn't make sense before, but I don't know enough about wiki markup to fix that sort of thing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DigitalEnthusiast (talk • contribs) 18:59, 19 December 2006 (UTC).

Bevy
Hi Mark, see Talk:Quail,  Jimfbleak . talk .16:17, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

GIUK image
Hi. I saw your request at WP:RM, and wanted to let you know I'd replied, and wonder if you're still interested in the move, despite the image having been obsoleted by Image:GIUK gap.png. If so, you're welcome to move it by downloading the image, re-uploading it at the new title, and then requesting deletion of the old one. There's no move button for images, so that's what it would require, and you're welcome to do that; I'll even delete the old page when you're done, if you let me know. -GTBacchus(talk) 02:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Name day
I have added a "" template to the article Name day, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. Addhoc 15:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of cover versions
I have nominated List of cover versions, an article you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/List of cover versions. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:36, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs
Hello HappyDog! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 1 of the articles that you created  is tagged as an Unreferenced Biography of a Living Person. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to ensure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. If you were to bring this article up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current Category:All_unreferenced_BLPs article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the unreferencedBLP tag. Here is the article:

Thanks!--DASHBot (talk) 05:25, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Carlo Bonomi -

 * Done. --HappyDog (talk) 15:26, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Carlo Bonomi

The article Carlo Bonomi has been proposed for deletion  because of the following concern:
 * Non-notable. No RSs exist on Google. Source here seems outdated.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the  notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. 68.219.194.13 (talk) 19:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of systems supported by MESS

The article List of systems supported by MESS has been proposed for deletion  because of the following concern:
 * This looks like indiscriminate information. I'm not really sure why this is here. There's nothing interesting to say, and the list is already on the official website.

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An RfC that you may be interested in...
As one of the previous contributors to Infobox film or as one of the commenters on it's talk page, I would like to inform you that there has been a RfC started on the talk page as to implementation of previously deprecated parameters. Your comments and thoughts on the matter would be welcomed. Happy editing!
 * This message was sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of {{U|Technical 13}} (t • e • c) 18:27, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:53, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Help decide the future of Wikimania

The Wikimedia Foundation is currently running a consultation on the value and planning process of Wikimania, and is open until 18 January 2016. The goals are to (1) build a shared understanding of the value of Wikimania to help guide conference planning and evaluation, and (2) gather broad community input on what new form(s) Wikimania could take (starting in 2018).

After reviewing the consultation, we'd like to hear your feedback on on this survey.

In addition, feel free to share any personal experiences you have had at at a Wikimedia movement conference, including Wikimania. We plan to compile and share back outcomes from this consultation in February.

With thanks,

I JethroBT (WMF) (talk), from Community Resources 23:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Towards a New Wikimania results
Last December, I invited you to share your views on the value of Wikimedia conferences and the planning process of Wikimania. We have completed analysis of these results and have prepared this report summarizing your feedback and important changes for Wikimania starting in 2018 as an experiment. Feedback and comments are welcome at the discussion page. Thank you so much for your participation. I JethroBT (WMF), Community Resources, 22:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Carlo Bonomi for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Carlo Bonomi is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Carlo Bonomi until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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