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220 up grandly in the distance across the plain. Our road led through a wide avenue lined with immense pepper trees in full green foliage, contrasting vividly with the brilliant red berries which loaded down every bough.

All was quiet and peaceful as a New England Sabbath in the olden time. But three years since, this same tree-embowered road presented a far different scene. The usurping "Emperor" and his foreign mercenaries and domestic traitors, brought to bay, at last, and rendered desperate by the hopelessness of their position were making a sortie, for the purpose of cutting their way out towards Morelia and the Pacific Coast, when they saw, streaming down through the wide avenue, the victorious "Army of the West," under Ramon Corona, from Sinaloa, who, with wild yells rushed directly into the thickest of the fight, and closed the last avenue of escape to them forever.


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 which may be employed according to custom for the service of the correspondence of the Legations of friendly Powers. The Plenipotentiaries of the Courts of Great Britain, Austria, Prussia, and Russia, took note of the above Declaration, for the purpose of communicating it to their respective Courts. (Signed) PALMERSTON. NEUMANN. BÜLOW. BRUNNOW. CHEKIB. Reserved Protocol (2) signed at London by the same on the 15th of July, 1840. The Plenipotentiaries of the Courts of Great Britain, Austria, Prussia, Russia, and Turkey, having, in virtue of their full powers, concluded and signed this day a Convention between their respective Sovereigns, for the pacification of the Levant ;

Considering that, in consequence of the distances which separate the capitals of their respective Courts, a certain space of time must necessarily elapse before the ratifications of the said Convention can be exchanged, and before orders founded thereupon can be carried into execution ; And the said Plenipotentiaries being deeply impressed with the conviction, that by reason of the present state of things in Syria, the interests of humanity, as well as the grave considerations of European policy which constitute the object of the common solicitude of the Contracting Parties to the Convention of this day, imperiously require that, as far as possible, all delay should be avoided in the accomplishment of the pacification which the said Convention is intended to effect ;

The said Plenipotentiaries, in virtue of their full powers, have agreed that the preliminary measures mentioned in Article II of the said Convention, shall be carried into execution at once, without waiting for the exchange of the ratifications; the respective Plenipotentiaries recording formally, by the present Instrument, the consent of their Courts to the immediate execution of these measures.

It is moreover agreed between the said Plenipotentiaries, that His Highness the Sultan will proceed immediately to address to Mehemet Ali the communication and offers specified in the Separate Act annexed to the Convention of this day.

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E had been told that we should find a revolution in full blast at Querataro, and everything in confusion. Instead, we found every thing going on in clock work order, peace, apparent contentment, and comparative prosperity. The Governor, it is true, having quarreled with the Legislature or State Congress, had been impeached, and was then in the city of Mexico, awaiting trial before Congress; but the Gefe Politico, Señor Angel Dueñas, and other officers, were conducting business with regularity in his absence.

We found the City and State officials, ready with carriages at the gates to receive the party. The city contains forty thousand people, and though far less important, commercially, than it once was, is still reckoned a wealthy one. It has schools, churches, and historic localities enough to occupy one's attention for a week; but as we had only a day and a half to devote to it, we decided to spend the first half-day in visiting the great factory which, in fact, supports the town; then devote all the following day to the scenes of interest connected with the siege, and the capture and death of Maximilian.

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222. It was the work of a rich Mexican who offered, by way of a banter, to do it free of cost to Queretaro, if a friend of like wealth would build a saint and shrine of solid silver. The bantering offer was accepted, and both parties carried out their agreement. The city is still supplied with water through this aqueduct.

The first factory which we saw was the small one known as La Purisiana Conception—i. e. The Immaculate Conception—which is run by water, and employs only three hundred operatives. It is owned by Señor Don Cuyatano Rubio, an aged, and very wealthy and enterprising Mexican, whose sons carry on all his immense business. It stands in a beautifully arranged enclosure, with high walls, fountains, orange-trees, and flowers around it, and is guarded all the time by watchmen in full military uniform, armed and drilled in the best modern style. It is lighted with gas, and the fine machinery is of the most improved pattern. Only manta or common cotton-cloth, such as is used by the poorest class and the common people, is made at this factory.

We passed on to the next and largest factory, not only in Queretaro, but in Mexico. This is situated just outside the city limits, and is known as the "Hercules." This is one of the largest establishments of the kind in America, and is a model in its way. It was founded twenty-five years ago by Señor Rubio, who then employed fifty workmen. Since then he has added to the capacity of the works until he has now the largest establishment in Mexico, and his income from it is immense. The buildings, mostly of but one story, cover a large extent of ground, and are enclosed by a high wall and guarded by watch-men in uniform,


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Rh armed and drilled as soldiers. The motive power is furnished by two double oscillating engines of English manufacture and one hundred horse-power each, and the largest over-shot water-wheel in the world, sixty-five feet in diameter, and of iron, wholly. The factory employs at present eighteen hundred men, women and boys, directly, and has eighteen thousand spindles in operation. The buildings are erected, already, for five thousand spindles more, and the number of operatives will be increased to three thousand. This mill produces six thousand pieces of common cotton goods, each thirty-two varas—say thirty yards English—in length, weekly. The women and men who do the weaving, receive thirty-one and one-fourth cents per piece, or about one cent per yard for their work, and are paid weekly. They earn two and one-half to five dollars per week, and are furnished with comfortable quarters near the factory at a nominal rental. But they work from 6 to 9 1-2, with only an intermission of half an hour, for breakfast, and an hour for dinner. Among the employes are many small boys from seven to ten years of age.

The Government provides a day-school on Sunday for these poor, little unfortunates; but what can they be expected to learn, when they have worked fifteen hours out of the twenty-four during the entire week, and can only have, at best, one brief day of liberty and enjoyment of the sunlight in seven? The buildings are all well-lighted and ventilated, and were as well-calculated for the purpose as any I have ever seen, and the office and residence of the superintendent are on a scale of extent and magnificence to be found in no similar establishment, elsewhere. The factory was working


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224 at the time, on orders largely in advance, and literally "coining money." The universal testimony of the employers in all these factories, is that the workmen and workwomen are patient, laborious, and reliable; and that no better class of operatives could be procured in the world. A beautiful statue of Hercules and the lions, the latter spouting water, stands in the center of the court-yard, and the entire surroundings of the place give evidence of a cultivated taste, and unbounded wealth on the part of the proprietor.

Queretaro was once famous for the bigotry and fanaticism of its people. The appearance of the procession carrying the Host, on the public streets, was the signal for everybody in sight falling on his knees at once; and if any heretic dared to remain standing, or with his hat on, he was sure to receive violent handling even if he escaped with his life.

A few years since, an Englishman who was employed at one of the mills, chanced to be on the streets when the procession with the Host hove in sight. Not being posted on the customs of the country he remained standing until he was knocked down and nearly killed. Some time after, he heard a small bell ringing on the streets, and as this was the signal for the appearance of the Host, supposed it was time to kneel. Down he went on his knees and remained there with his face buried deep in his sombrero until somebody came along, and recognizing him, demanded an explanation of his conduct. It turned out that the bell which he had supposed headed the procession of the Host, was being rung by the official dustman, as a warning to the inhabitants to have their refuse dust and garbage ready for him to remove.


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I believe all countries and all languages have the same stories, only slightly varied to suit the locality. A man told me in Queretaro, with all possible gravity, that a few years since, an American bought a rancho in the vicinity of that city, and took a large drove of mules to pasture for a year, for one-half of the increase. As the mules did not breed as rapidly as he had anticipated, he lost money, and finally bursted up in business. This story has been told me in every country I have ever visited, at the expense of the next door neighbors, and I am half satisfied that, spite of the Mosaic account of the affair, the real cause or origin of the difficulty between Cain and Abel was the telling of this very anecdote by the former to the latter. Abel replied, "that is an old story, you had better start something fresh!" and the brutal row began.

On the evening of our arrival a number of gentlemen assembled at the parlor of the house occupied by Mr. Seward and party, and Señor Angel Dueñas, Political Chief, made an address, to which Mr. Seward replied briefly; and on his leaving, presented him with a letter of thanks for the address and the efforts made by the people of Queretaro and the authorities, to make his stay in the state and city, a pleasant one.

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226 : I pray you, my dear sir, to accept in this form my grateful acknowledgment for the generous words of welcome, which on my arrival at this place you addressed to me, on behalf of the officers and agents of the Federal Government residing in the city of Queretaro. Republicanism on this continent, my dear sir, is not the cause of the United States of America, or of the United States of Mexico, only, but it is the common cause of both countries, and, as I believe, of all the nations which now exist on the American Continent. It will be a happy consequence of my present travel in Mexico, if it shall enable me, in any degree, to cultivate and mature this sentiment, either in your interesting country, or in my own".

The legislature of the state of Queretaro, presented by one of its members, an address of welcome, of which the following is a translation:

The Legislature of the State has the honor to felicitate Mr. W. H. Seward, giving him the welcome. It is the true interpreter of the people of Queretaro with regard to the expressions of its gratitude. Meanwhile, history does not efface off its pages the unjustified invasion of France in Mexico; likewise, will not be effaced the important services which Mexico received of the Hon. Minister of America, in 1866.

Queretaro, Nov. 11th 1869.

(Signed,)

President.

In reply Mr. Seward wrote a letter, concluding:

"The Legislature will scarcely need to be assured that I appreciate the legendary and historical character of the state of Queretaro. While its capital will be forever celebrated, as the scene of the earliest and most pious labors of the humble founders of Christianity in Mexico, it will be even more distinguished, as the scene of those mighty events, which concluded the last and most desperate attempt of all, to establish European monarchial domination on the American Continent. Peace, harmony, and sympathy among the several American Nations, is now the


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Rh common interest of all of them, and it is soon to be perceived that it is equally the interest of all mankind. With most profound respect, etc."

A similar reply was addressed by Mr. Seward, to a letter of welcome from Governor Varquez, which closed the felicitations.

We spent all one day riding around Queretaro, visiting the scenes of the last act in the bloody farce of the "Empire of Mexico," and hearing the story from the lips of men who witnessed it all, and participated in it, or were familiar with all the details.

It is the common belief in the United States and Europe, that the execution of Maximilian and his associates, Miramon and Mejia, was in defiance of the will of the majority of the people of Mexico, and that Maximilian's memory is greatly revered by all classes of society. Certain newspaper correspondents, whose motives may well be questioned, have represented that every relic and trace of him, is regarded with superstitious reverence by the people of Mexico; and that the men who sent him to his death, are everywhere detested and abhorred. I could see no trace of such a feeling, and must be allowed to express a personal unbelief of the whole story. Imperialists, belonging to the wealthy and, former, "ruling classes," who might be expected to speak reverentially of him, so far as my observation, at least, goes, all hold his memory in contempt, and regard him as the author, not only of his own misfortunes, but of those who adhered to his cause. They often say of him that he was, personally, a gentleman, in his carriage and demeanor, but vain to the last degree, cold-blooded, fond of idle pomp and show, and devoid of all the qualities of heart and


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228 head to fit him for personal popularity, and enable him to succeed in such an enterprise as founding an empire on the ruins of a republic.

Queretaro is situated on the north-eastern edge of a wide plain, around which, on the north-east, north, and west, runs a range of low hills commanding the city. In April, and the early part of May, 1867, the position of the contending armies was about as follows: Gen. Escobedo, the Commander-in-Chief of the Republican forces, had his head-quarters on the heights east of the city, and held undisturbed possession of the northeast and south-east, and debated with the Imperialists the possession of the lower part of the city nearest his head-quarters. The Imperialists held the west, south-west, and south-east, and the main portion of the city; while Gen. Corona on the south, and Regules and the American Legion on the west, hemmed them in, and prevented their escape toward the Pacific.

The old Convent and Church of Las Cruces, is an immense structure, with walls of great strength, and is situated on a hill sufficiently high to command the city, but is commanded in turn by the heights beyond the town occupied by General Escobedo. The Alameda is on low ground, overlooked by the heights occupied by Corona, but is surrounded by a stout, stone wall, and was well defended by artillery and the Casa Blanca. Between it and the Cerro de Las Campanas is an old hacienda, with immense walls, invulnerable to everything but the fire of the heaviest ordnance. From Las Cruces to the Cerro, in a direct line, is a mile and a half, and the line of defences was nearly two miles—twice too long for the force that held it, or rather, tried to hold it.


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Rh The story of the siege of Queretaro and the deeds of daring on both sides is now tolerably familiar to the reading public. Maximilian sent out Miramon with the flower of his army to attack, and if possible, capture Juarez at Zacatecas. He captured the city, Juarez barely escaping, but next day was attacked and routed by Escobedo, and on the following day, having retreated thirty miles and united his forces to those of Castillo, was again overtaken and routed completely, by Escobedo, his whole army being killed or dispersed, and himself escaping wounded, and with but a handful of men remaining.

On the fourteenth of April, Corona made a daring and desperate attack upon the strong-hold of Las Cruces, and scaling the high walls of the cemetery on the north-east side, occupied a position under the very walls of the Convent for an hour, but was driven out at last by the besieged, after a hand-to-hand conflict. Later in the siege, Corona, while resting his forces in the plain, in the rear of the Casa Blanca, was surprised in the early morning by the forces under Miramon, who marched under the cover of the night from the Casa Blanca to the Alameda, and suddenly flanking his position, routed him, and compelled him to retreat to the hills, a few hundred yards in the rear. This, however, gained him no permanent advantage, and he was in turn flanked by Escobedo, and compelled to retire within the intrenchments.

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Rh, and Mejia to death; and from other parties who were eye-witnesses, some of whom evidently sympathized with the Imperialists.

On the night of the 14th of May, 1867, the Imperialists were defeated at all points, exhausted and dispirited. They had lived on mule-meat and bean-bread for weeks, and even that was gone. Maximilian, despairing, at last, of assistance from abroad, saw that all was lost, and at 11 he sent Lopez, who was then the "officer of the day," to the head-quarters of General Escobedo, with instructions, to say to him, that he proposed to take fifty picked horsemen, escape across the Sierra Gordo to Tampico or Tuxpan, and embark for Europe, leaving the place to surrender at once, if his own life was guaranteed him. Escobedo repelled the proposition with contempt, telling Lopez that he had strict orders to refuse all terms to Maximilian, as an outlaw, and violator of the laws of war, and that he would carry the city by assault at the next attempt. Lopez returned to Maximilian, told him of his utter want of success, and then returned to the advanced post occupied by him, just below Las Cruces, on the north-western side, and in the outskirts of Queretaro.

Escobedo, reasoning that the proposition could only come from a man in the last extremity, at once called a council of war, and the general assault which had been previously ordered for the following day at 8, was directed to be made immediately. The Republican troops reached the out-post held by Lopez in front of Las Cruces at 4, and as soon as Lopez saw them, he told his men that further resistance was useless. Some say, that he said that the Republicans were deserters who came to join the Imperialists, but this is


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Rh denied by Lopez and his friends. At any rate, he ran directly to the head-quarters of Maximilian at La Cruces, told him all was lost, and urged him to fly to Las Campanas, and escape if he could. Maximilian, who appeared to have completely lost his senses, ran down from his room in the second story of the convent to the basement, and demanded his horses, but was told that the Republicans already had possession of the stables. He then ran out toward the north, but was caught by the shoulder, by an officer who pushed him back, telling him that he was running directly into the jaws of death. He then ran on foot through Queretaro in a south-westerly direction toward the Cerro de Las Campanas. On his way through the city he was seen in uniform by some of the soldiers of the regiment of Col. Rincon of the Republican forces, who had already made their way to the heart of the city. They cried out to stay him, but Col. Rincon, either because he did not recognize him, or because his father had been under great obligations to Maximilian, replied, "No; he is only a private citizen, and a countryman of ours; let him go!" He then ran on to Las Campanas uninterrupted, and, demanding horses, was told that it was useless, as all the country in front was already occupied by General Regules.

Thus cut off, and surrounded at all points, he took a white flag in his hand, and started down the slope of one hundred feet toward the city, and before reaching the bottom met Col. Geo. M. Green, the accomplished officer in command of the American Legion of Honor from San Francisco, whom he recognized. Shots had by this time been fired at Maximilian, repeatedly, by the advancing Republicans, and he was in a pitiable


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232 condition; exhausted, disheartened, and with his great, weak lips trembling so that he could hardly command his speech, he asked Col. Green not to let him fall into the hands of General Escobedo, of whom he stood in mortal terror, but to point out General Corona and allow him to surrender to him. Col. Green said to him:

"Calm yourself; the Emperor of Austria has sent a commission to ask the American Government to intercede for your life!"

Maximilian apparently greatly relieved by the information, replied:

"And my brother has done this?"

By this time—all had passed in a few seconds—General Corona had reached the spot, and going straight up to him, Maximilian said:

"I am Maximilian, Emperor of Mexico." (drawing his sword and presenting it;)

"I am the Emperor no longer, but a Mexican citizen, and your prisoner?"

Corona replied:

"No, Maximilian, you are not now Emperor, and never were!"

He then motioned to a subordinate to receive his sword, refusing himself to accept it, or make any terms of surrender, and referring him, altogether, to General Escobedo, his superior in command. Lopez now ordered the Austrians and others in his command, to disarm, and the work was complete.

The story that Lopez sold out to Escobedo for seventy thousand dollars, in coin, is in a measure rebutted by the facts that the Republicans had not a dollar to pay him; that he has not been known to have a dollar since; and that there was no need of such a bribe, as all chance for successful resistance was gone, and the


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Rh Republicans already, had the city, practically, in their power; the City of Mexico was certain to fall, for it could not be defended long by the forces within it. There was no point on the continent from which succor could possibly come. It is a fact against him, that he was not imprisoned, for a time, like his brother officers; but may not that be explained on the hypothesis, that although detested (as were all those who had gone over to the Empire,) by the Republicans, they still felt that he was entitled to some consideration for having stopped the effusion of blood, when the proper time arrived, and it was just and proper that he should do so. Strict military disciplinarians might urge that his duty was to have died at his post; not to presume to judge of the exigencies of a situation when his superior officer was in command, and on the ground; but civilians will ask, to what good would such self-sacrifice conduce, and it will be hard to answer. I do not propose to offer an apology for a man whose former life had been regarded infamous by his most intimate acquaintances; but something is due to the truth of history; and it really seems to me, from all the evidence which I gathered at the time, and that which I found on the spot, that Maximilian was not betrayed by Lopez; and that he (Maximilian), on the other hand, did, on the night of the 14th of May, offer to abandon his companions to their fate, and escape, personally, to the coast of the Gulf of Mexico, and from thence to Europe, is beyond a doubt.

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234 of flowers. Some one had written in bold letters, on the wall, with charcoal, "Mexico es Libre!" but I saw no other inscription. In the rooms below, all was just as it was when the imperial horses were taken out, after the fall. We went up and stood in the bell-tower in which Maximilian stood when a cannon-ball from Escobedo's batteries cut down his aid by his side. All the buildings around the Convent were tenantless, roofless, and in ruins, having been dismantled by the Imperialists, or leveled by the Republican batteries, and never repaired.

From Las Campañas, Maximilian, with Miramon, Mejia, Prince Salm Salm, and others, was taken back to the city and imprisoned for six or seven days in the old Convent of Theresite. From thence he, with Miramon and Mejia, went to the old monastery of Los Capuchinos, and there they remained under guard (while the court-martial decided their case) until the 19th of June, thirty-four days after their capture, when they went out to die. Maximilian persisted until the last hour in the belief that the barefooted and ragged Republicans of Mexico would not dare to shoot a Prince of the house of Hapsburg-Lorraine, and one of the "Lord's Anointed." But they did!

When at Los Capuchinos, I was shown by a friend who accompanied me, the window at which Maximilian was looking out, when he visited the place during the pseudo Emperor's confinement after the court-martial had sentenced him to death. It faces the patio, and in the room adjoining, on the other angle, Miramon and Mejia were confined. By looking diagonally across the corner of this patio, they could see each other when standing at their windows. When my friend entered


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E left Queretaro early on the morning of Nov. 12th, and, passing through the battle-field, of El Cemetario, around La Cruces, and San Francisquito, with their loop-holed and shattered walls, ruined outworks, and surrounding hamlets, deserted and desolate, ascended a long hill, from the summit of which, we obtained a glorious view of the white-walled city and the lovely valley around it. Our road led us, nearly all day, through a very broad and rich valley, covered with corn-fields stretching out to the very horizon, well cultivated and very productive. The haciendas of the proprietors of these vast estates, each a strong-walled fortress surrounded by the hovels of the laborers like ancient feudal castles, formed a very picturesque feature of the scene.

At 2, we had made forty-two Mexican miles, and reached the fine old Mexican town of San Juan del Rio, where we were received and entertained in the most hospitable manner, by Señor Don Antonio Diaz y Torres and his amiable and accomplished wife, at their beautiful city residence. The municipal authorities welcomed Mr. Seward with addresses and music, and Señor Don Ramon de Ybarrola, a young civil engineer, proprietor of the great estate of Galindo, in the vicinity, made a brief "felicitation" in English.


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 along flats on either side of the River Swan, from below Guildford, until it becomes lost in the Darling Range. The extreme fertility of the flats is apparent to the most casual observer. Back from the river on the banks there is a formation of reddish friable loam, gradually merging, as it extends into the plains, into a yellow clay and sandy grit; the timber on the rivers and lowlands being flooded gum and wattle, on the uplands red gum, jarrah, and wando; in many parts the wando prevails. At Gingin the character alters slightly, having ridges mixed with rich soil, sandy loams, and lime stone formations with ti-tree swampy flats, as the country extends towards the Moore River. These districts are watered by the Swan, the Helena, Ellen Brook, Gingin Brook, &c., and water is obtained by sinking at from 25 feet to 60 feet. The rainfall at Guildford and Swan is 32·37 and 28·20 inches respectively; at Gingin, 30·53 inches; the average cost of clearing varies from £2 per acre to £6 and £7.

The Districts of Wandering, Murradong, the Williams and the Arthur Rivers contain country in many respects similar to that around and near Northam; more open in its character, and more undulating; at periods of the year heavily grassed with silver grass. The soil is of a reddish chocolate colour and very friable on the ridges, alternating into clayey flats and grit. The timber generally is raspberry jam, wattles, York gum, white gum, and bastard oak; the country round and about Wandering and Murradong being perhaps more thickly wooded than on the Williams and Arthur Rivers, and much richer in character and general fertility. These districts are watered by the Arthur, Williams, Beaufort, and Bannister; and by sinkings at depths varying from 30 to 50 feet. The rainfall of the Williams is 22·81 inches; of Vandering, 23·56 inches; and the average cost of clearing is from £3 to £5 per acre.

.—The Upper Blackwood, Jayes, Bridgeto,vn, and Preston River differ in character in every respect from any of the above enumerated areas. The character of the country and soil are subject to different climatic conditions altogether. The districts named are more or less similar in character, having many features in common, an d therefore a general description will embrace features common to each. They consist generally of very hilly country covered with heavy timber; the agricultural land growing principally the red gum and flooded gum, and more or less covered with a heavy growth of black-boy. The soil varies very materially: at times belts or ridges of reddish chocolate soil are to be


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 met with, and at others strong dark soil deepening into rich black loam as it extends into the valleys below; all yielding, under fencing, clearing and ring barking, heavy crops of grass. These districts are well watered by brooklets, springs, and shallow sinking. The agricultural country on the banks or the flats of the Preston River differs only in character from the fact of having rather a larger stretch of level country along the banks of the river, and being perhaps more uniform in the general character of its soil. The average rainfall is—Jayes, 26·95 inches, Bridgetown, 35·78; and the average cost of clearing from £3 to £ 15 per acre.

The Districts of Bunbury and Vasse are alike in some respects, but differing materially in others; both are seaport towns, and both the seat of considerable dairying operations. The Vasse may be described as a belt of rich swamp deposit placed behind the sea hills, and running in a narrow belt along the coast, from 10 to 15 miles on either side of the port, with ridges of limestone formation skirted by clay flats, and with low-lying sand and clay plains, covered generally by shrubs, wattle, and tuart, on the poorer land; and on the rich land growing flooded gum, tuart, and ti-tree.

Bunbury and its surroundings differ from that description materially, having rich alluvial swamp land to the right and left of the port, running north for many miles along the coast with ridges of limestone and clay plains, and backed up heavy deposits of black loamy soil at Dardanup, the Ferguson, the Collie, and Brunswick Rivers. All these districts are well watered by numerous rivers and watercourses, to wit:—the Rivers Vasse, Ludlow, Capel, Preston, Ferguson, Collie, Brunswick, and others of smaller note, while water is procured any where by sinking at depths varying from 6 feet to 20 feet. The rainfall at Dardanup is 40 inches; Bunbury, 34·64 inches; the Vasse, 36·67 inches. The cost of clearing at the Vasse averages about £3 to £8 per acre; at Bunbury from £3 to £14; Dardanup, Ferguson, and Brunswick from £3 to £8 per acre.

The District of Harvey may well be classed with that of the Bruns wick, Collie, and Dardanup, as the same character of land prevails, and the situation, as regards the Darling Range, identical. Pin jarrah and its surroundings, on the other hand, differs from other localities in the Southern Districts, being all more or less flat and open country, having along the banks of the Murray River stretches of reddish loam backed up by clayey and sandy plains. The timber is generally red gum, with wattle on the flats; ti-tree, banksia, and flooded gum on the plains. It is watered by the Murray River, and


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"Shaving Made Easy: What the Man Who Shaves Ought to Know" is a 1905 illustrated textbook about shaving published by the 20th Century Correspondence School.

Shaving at home instead of going to the barber has recognised advantages in terms of time, money, and health; but it can also be more difficult. The work is particularly intended for those men who have difficulties in shaving themselves. It examines all aspects of shaving and all necessary objects. The purpose of this textbook is to make each man "able to shave himself easily and even better than the barber can do it for him." First-class tools are necessary at the very outset. No matter how skillfully one may handle inferior tools, they will invariably produce poor results.

Probably as many failures have resulted from the use of poor razors, strops, or soap as from the lack of knowledge how to use them. In order that the best possible results may be attained, good tools and skill in using them should go hand in hand.

The shaving outfit should consist of one or two good razors, a first-class strop, a mirror, a cup, a brush, a cake of shaving soap, and a bottle of either bay rum, witch hazel, or some other good face lotion. These constitute what may be considered the necessary articles, and to these may be added a number of others, such as a good hone, magnesia or talcum powder, astringent or styptic pencils, antiseptic lotions, etc. which, while not absolutely requisite, will nevertheless add much to the convenience, comfort and luxury of the shave. Featured April 2012

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"Popular Science Monthly," (vol. 1) the initial volume of the long-running magazine of science and technology.

The journal was launched in 1872 by Edward Livingston Youmans to disseminate scientific knowledge to the educated layman—changing in 1914 to target the general public—and became an outlet for the writings and ideas of many scientists, several of whom remain household names. Each issue features a collection of articles on various subjects within the fields of science and technology. This volume, containing the issues published from May-October 1872, includes such articles as "The Causes of Dyspepsia," "Darwinism and Divinity," "Action of Dark Radiations," "Astro-Meteorology," "Concerning Corpulence," "The Physiology of Sleep," and "Has our Climate Changed?"

The Popular Science Monthly has been started to help on the work of sound public education, by supplying instructive articles on the leading subjects of scientific inquiry. It will contain papers, original and selected, on a wide range of subjects, from the ablest scientific men of different countries, explaining their views to nonscientific people. A magazine is needed here, which shall be devoted to this purpose, for, although much is done by the general press in scattering light articles and shreds of information, yet many scientific discussions of merit and moment are passed by. It is, therefore, thought best to bring this class of contributions together for the benefit of all who are interested in the advance of ideas and the diffusion of valuable knowledge.
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"Homes of the London Poor" (1875) a collection of magazine articles about social housing by Octavia Hill.

Hill was a late Victorian social reformer and pivotal in the development of social housing. The articles collected here were originally published in influential magazines from 1666 to 1875. These drew attention to the appalling housing conditions and her methods of remedying them. When they were compiled and published together, the collection was distributed around the world, helping to spread her ideas further. Hill's work became internationally recognised and her ideas were taken up and copied in continental Europe and the United States of America. The German translation of this collection was made by Princess Alice. This American edition was published in the same year as the British edition by Louisa Lee Schuyler, an enthusiastic supporter of Octavia's work.

The subject of dwellings for the poor is attracting so much attention, that an account of a small attempt to improve them may be interesting to many readers, especially as the plan adopted is one which has answered pecuniarily, and which, while it might be undertaken by private individuals without much risk, would bring them into close and healthy communication with their hard-working neighbors.
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"Mexico, as it was and as it is" (1847) a travelogue and study of Mexico in the 19th century by Brantz Mayer.

Brantz Mayer was twice secretary of the United States legation to Mexico. On his final return to the United States of America in 1843 he published the first edition of this work, narrating his first term in that post. Mayer's letters and appendices cover anthropology, social mores, politics, religion and geography along with extensive notes on the benefit the Panama Canal would bring.

I left New-York on the 27th of October, 1841, with a fair wind, and on the twelfth day after, at sunrise, saw the lofty peak of Orizaba, towering above the distant line of the western horizon.

I have rarely beheld a more beautiful sight than this was. The maritime Alps, as seen from the Gulf of Lyons, present a spectacle of great majesty and beauty. But this grand and solitary peak, lifting its head more than 17,000 feet above the ocean, the sentinel, as it were, of a land toward which you may still sail for days before you arrive, has struck every traveller with wonder since the days when Cortez first hailed it on his adventurous voyage for the conquest of Mexico.
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, 22nd Sept., 1804

Pub. Hist. & Phil. Soc. of Ohio, I, 102 ,

I have to acknowledge the receipt of your two letters one by post and one by Mr. Thomas. I began to think that you had forgotten me as some of my other friends in Cincinnati have done. I have long wished to pay you a visit but I have been hitherto prevented sometimes by Public and oftentimes by private business. I hope however that this will not always be the case. During the whole of this summer and part of last I have been engaged in building a large House [Harrison House, Vincennes] which will I fear prove rather too expensive for my finances. However the trouble and three fourths of the expense will be at end in a few days and by next Spring I shall be in a situation to accomodate [sic] you and your large family, if you should think it worth your while to come and see us. Independent of the gratification of seeing your old friend you will be interested in the Country around this place—the appearance of which is altogether different from anything you ever saw.

I did not accept Mr. [Peyton] Shorts offer because I was informed that $1600 was not enough for my preemption Right; and had I been inclined to have taken $1600 the land which he offered me was certainly not worth $400. I have written to my brother to assist me in paying the first instalment in January next, and as I know he has the command of money I calculate with certainty upon receiving assistance from him unless he has entered into some engagement that I am unaquainted [sic] with. I am very much indebted both to [David?] Killgour and yourself for the Indulgence shown with regard to the fees.

Mrs. Harrison requests you to present her in the most affectionate terms to Mrs. Findlay. She (Mrs. H.—) is very much distressed at my being obliged to leave her. I shall set out for Louisiana [St. Louis] about the 2d or 3d of October.


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"The Canterville Ghost" (1887) a short story by Oscar Wilde.

A humorous ghost story about an American family moving into a haunted British country house. Wilde uses the story to contrast British and American culture. The humour comes from the American family's complete lack of fear in the ghost and its increasing frustration at this. The roles become reversed and the ghost becomes the victim of the family. The story was very popular and has been adapted into plays, operas, television dramas and films.

WHEN Mr. Hiram B. Otis, the American Minister, bought Canterville Chase, every one told him he was doing a very foolish thing, as there was no doubt at all that the place was haunted. Indeed, Lord Canterville himself, who was a man of the most punctilious honour, had felt it his duty to mention the fact to Mr. Otis when they came to discuss terms.

"We have not cared to live in the place ourselves," said Lord Canterville, "since my grandaunt, the Dowager Duchess of Bolton, was frightened into a fit, from which she never really recovered, by two skeleton hands being placed on her shoulders as she was dressing for dinner, and I feel bound to tell you, Mr. Otis, that the ghost has been seen by several living members of my family, as well as by the rector of the parish, the Rev. Augustus Dampier, who is a Fellow of King's College, Cambridge. After the unfortunate accident to the Duchess, none of our younger servants would stay with us, and Lady Canterville often got very little sleep at night, in consequence of the mysterious noises that came from the corridor and the library."
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"The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" (1864) an edition of the 1820 short story by Washington Irving.

The story of a headless horseman chasing a schoolmaster is one of the earliest examples of enduringly popular American fiction. The nature of the horseman is left for the reader to decide. The story borrows elements from the folklore of several European countries and transplants them to late 18th century New York state. The story has been widely reprinted and adapted since its publication in 1820 in a collection called The Sketchbook of Geoffrey Crayon. This is a later, self contained, 1864 edition published by G. P. Putnam with additional illustrations.

ON the bosom of one of those spacious coves which indent the eastern shore of the Hudson, at that broad expansion of the river denominated by the ancient Dutch navigators the Tappan Zee, and where they always prudently shortened sail, and implored the protection of St. Nicholas when they crossed, there lies a small market-town or rural port, which by some is called Greensburgh, but which is more generally and properly known by the name of Tarry Town. This name was given, we are told, in former days, by the good housewives of the adjacent country, from the inveterate propensity of their husbands to linger about the village tavern on market-days. Be that as it may, I do not vouch for the fact, but merely advert to it, for the sake of being precise and authentic. Not far from this village, perhaps about two miles, there is a little valley, or rather lap of land, among high hills, which is one of the quietest places in the whole world. A small brook glides through it, with just murmur enough to lull one to repose; and the occasional whistle of a quail, or tapping of a woodpecker, is almost the only sound that ever breaks in upon the uniform tranquillity.
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"The Hound of the Baskervilles" (1902) a Sherlock Holmes novel by Arthur Conan Doyle.

The Hound of the Baskervilles is the third of four novels by Doyle featuring Holmes. Originally serialised in The Strand Magazine from August 1901 to April 1902, it was the first Holmes piece Doyle had written in eight years, after killing the character in "The Final Problem"; he would revive the series two years later. The novel is set largely on Dartmoor in Devon in England's West Country and tells the story of an attempted murder inspired by the legend of the "monstrously evil" Richard Cabell and a fearsome, diabolical hound.

Mr. Sherlock Holmes, who was usually very late in the mornings, save upon those not infrequent occasions when he stayed up all night, was seated at the breakfast table. I stood upon the hearth-rug and picked up the stick which our visitor had left behind him the night before. It was a fine, thick piece of wood, bulbous-headed, of the sort which is known as a “Penang lawyer.” Just under the head was a broad silver band, nearly an inch across. “To James Mortimer, M.R.C.S., from his friends of the C.C.H.,” was engraved upon it, with the date “1884.” It was just such a stick as the old-fashioned family practitioner used to carry—dignified, solid, and reassuring.
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"The Door into Infinity" a 1938 novelette by Edmond Hamilton.

Hamilton was a prolific writer for the pulp magazines of the early 20th century; this short work was first published in the weird fiction pulp Weird Tales. It mixes the science-fiction-influenced cosmic horror that was popular in that magazine with the orientalism and east-end of London setting that would have been familiar to the wider readership of popular fiction of that era. Hamilton was at this time already popular as an author of space operas in other pulps and would later move on to writing for DC Comics.

"Where leads the Door?"

"It leads outside our world."

"Who taught our forefathers to open the Door?"

"They Beyond the Door taught them."

"To whom do we bring these sacrifices?"

"We bring them to Those Beyond the Door."

"Shall the Door be opened that They may take them?"

"Let the Door be opened!"
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Under Ben Bulben

I

Swear by what the sages spoke

Round the Mareotic Lake

That the Witch of Atlas knew,

Spoke and set the cocks a-crow.

Swear by those horsemen, by those women

Complexion and form prove superhuman,

That pale, long-visaged company

That air in immortality

Completeness of their passions won;

Now they ride the wintry dawn

Where Ben Bulben sets the scene.

Here's the gist of what they mean.

II

Many times man lives and dies

Between his two eternities,

That of race and that of soul,

And ancient Ireland knew it all.

Whether man die in his bed

Or the rifle knocks him dead,

A brief parting from those dear

Is the worst man has to fear.

Though grave-digger's toil is long,

Sharp their spades, their muscles strong,

They but thrust their buried men

Back in the human mind again.

III

You that Mitchel's prayer have heard,

"Send war in our time, O Lord!"

Know that when all words are said

And a man is fighting mad,

Something drops from eyes long blind,

He completes his partial mind,

For an instant stands at ease,

Laughs aloud, his heart at peace.

Even the wisest man grows tense

With some sort of violence

Before he can accomplish fate,

Know his work or choose his mate.

IV

Poet and sculptor, do the work,

Nor let the modish painter shirk

What his great forefathers did,

Bring the soul of man to God,

Make him fill the cradles right.

Measurement began our might:

Forms a stark Egyptian thought,

Forms that gentler Phidias wrought,

Michael Angelo left a proof

On the Sistine Chapel roof,

Where but half-awakened Adam

Can disturb globe-trotting Madam

Till her bowels are in heat,

Proof that there's a purpose set

Before the secret working mind:

Profane perfection of mankind.

Quattrocento put in paint

On backgrounds for a God or Saint

Gardens where a soul's at ease;

Where everything that meets the eye,

Flowers and grass and cloudless sky,

Resemble forms that are or seem

When sleepers wake and yet still dream,

And when it's vanished still declare,

With only bed and bedstead there,

That heavens had opened.

Gyres run on;

When that greater dream had gone

Calvert and Wilson, Blake and Claude,

Prepared a rest for the people of God,

Palmer's phrase, but after that

Confusion fell upon our thought.

V

Irish poets, learn your trade,

Sing whatever is well made,

Scorn the sort now growing up

All out of shape from toe to top,

Their unremembering hearts and heads

Base-born products of base beds.

Sing the peasantry, and then

Hard-riding country gentlemen,

The holiness of monks, and after

Porter-drinkers' randy laughter;

Sing the lords and ladies gay

That were beaten into clay

Through seven heroic centuries;

Cast your mind on other days

That we in coming days may be

Still the indomitable Irishry.

VI

Under bare Ben Bulben's head

In Drumcliff churchyard Yeats is laid.

An ancestor was rector there

Long years ago, a church stands near,

By the road an ancient cross.

No marble, no conventional phrase;

On limestone quarried near the spot

By his command these words are cut:

Cast a cold eye

On life, on death.

Horseman, pass by!

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Declassified per Executive Order 13526, Section 3.3 NND Project Number: NND 63316. By: NWD Date: 2011 TOP SECRET – Sensitive a report that considered the Thakhek–Dong Hoi line (midway between the 17th and 18th parallels) defensible in the event Vietnam were partitioned. Moreover, Chauvel had told U. Alexis Johnson, then a member of the American delegation, that French flirtation with the idea of one or more enclaves for each side in the northern and southern zones of divided Vietnam had been abandoned. Chauvel indicated his government had decided it would rather give up Haiphong than accept a Viet Minh enclave in the south if the choice came to that. The conference report and the Paris change of heart on the enclave concept had the effect of convincing some that if partition were adopted, it could provide for a solid, militarily defensible South Vietnam.

 * d.

In another area, the communists had conceded — with Chou En-lai's proposal at a restricted Conference session of 16 June — that Laos and Cambodia were problems distinct from that in Vietnam. And in a conversation with Smith, Molotov added his conviction that Pham Van Dong already had evidenced his willingness to withdraw Viet Minh "volunteers" from Laos and Cambodia. But, here as with partition, communist initiatives only satisfied in small part the American conception of acceptable terms. Until regular Viet Minh forces were entirely removed from Laos and Cambodia, until their puppet Free Khmer and Pathet Lao elements were disarmed or withdrawn, and until the right of the royal governments to seek outside support for self-defense was confirmed, the U.S. saw little progress in Chou's statement.

 * e.

The gloom in American circles thickened considerably in late June. Continued irresolution at the conference table, together with the strong feeling in Washington that the French delegation, now responsible to Pierre Mendès-France (as of 18 June), would conclude a settlement as soon as the Conference reconvened, led Dulles to caution Smith against becoming involved in committee work (as the French proposed) that would appear to link the U.S. to any final decisions. "Our thinking at present," Dulles cabled Smith on 34 June, "is that our role at Geneva should soon be restricted to that of observer...."

 * 3.

 * a.

While the U.S. wanted to cut back on its involvement in the Conference proceedings, the French hoped to obtain, as previously, sufficient U.S. support to bolster their negotiating position in the face of communist pressure. Thus, on 26 June, Henri Bonnet delivered an aide-memoire from his government to Dulles and Eden, noting the difficulties Rh

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Declassified per Executive Order 13526, Section 3.3 NND Project Number: NND 63316. By: NWD Date: 2011 TOP SECRET – Sensitive of the French position. The French wanted to "assure the State of Vietnam a territory as solid as possible," but the Viet Minh were unlikely to make concessions in the Tonkin Delta, and the Vietnamese in Saigon were likely to object violently to a partition arrangement. The French government, therefore, hoped that the U.S. could find a way to assist it in both directions: first, the U.S. and U.K. might issue a declaration following their upcoming talks in Washington that would "state in some fashion or other that, if it is not possible to reach a reasonable settle ment at the Geneva Conference, a serious aggravation of international relations would result"; second, the U.S. might intercede with the Vietnamese to counsel them against opposing a settlement really in their best interests.

 * b.

The second suggestion was never given serious consideration, for the U.S. did not wish to be tied to a settlement that would cede territory to the Viet Minh. The first, however, was acted upon when Churchill and Eden arrived in Washington on 24 June. Four days later, the U.S. and U.K. issued a joint statement which warned: "if at Geneva the French Government is confronted with demands which prevent an acceptable agreement regarding Indochina, the international situation will be seriously aggravated."

 * c.

Of more immediate consequence for the course of the negotiations was the unpublicized agreement between the two countries on a set of principles which, if worked into the settlement terms, would enable London and Washington to "respect" the armistice. The principles, known subsequently as the seven points, were communicated to the French. They were:

(1) Preservation of the integrity and independence of Laos and Cambodia, and assurance of Viet Minh withdrawal from those countries;

(2) Preservation of at least the southern half of Vietnam, and if possible an enclave in the Tonkin Delta, with the line of demarcation no further south than one running generally west from Dong Hoi;

(3) No restrictions on Laos, Cambodia, or retained Vietnam "materially impairing their capacity to maintain stable non-Communist regimes; and especially restrictions impairing their right to maintain adequate forces for internal security, to import arms and to employ foreign advisers";

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Declassified per Executive Order 13526, Section 3.3 NND Project Number: NND 63316. By: NWD Date: 2011 TOP SECRET – Sensitive (5) No provision that would "exclude the possibility of the ultimate reunification of Vietnam by peaceful means";

(6) Provision for "the peaceful and humane transfer, under international supervision, of those people desiring to be moved from one zone to another of Vietnam";

(7) Provision for "effective machinery for international supervision of the agreement."

 * d.

Although agreement to the seven points represented something of an American diplomatic victory (with the important exception of point 2, where the U.S. for the first time conceded that partition was inescapable), the U.S. was by no means confident that the British would actually abide by the relatively hard bargaining lines set forth. "...we have the distinct impression," Dulles wrote, "that the British look upon this [memorandum of the seven points] merely as an optimum solution and that they would not encourage the French to hold out for a solution as good as this." The Secretary observed that the British, during the talks, had settled for agreement to "respect" the final terms; they preferred something stronger, and in fact "wanted to express these 7 points merely as a 'hope' without any indication of firmness on our part." The U.S., quite aside from what was said in the seven points, "would not want to be associated in any way with a settlement which fell materially short of the 7 point memorandum." The possibility of a unilateral withdrawal was still being "given consideration," Dulles reported, even as the seven points were agreed upon.

 * e.

Despite reservations about the feasibility of implementing the seven points, the U.S. hoped to get French approval of them. On 6 July Dillon telegraphed the French reaction as given him by Parodi, the Secretary-General of the cabinet. With the exception of point 5 dealing with elections, the French were in agreement. They were confused about an apparent conflict between the elections provision and point 4, under which political provisions, which would include elections, were not to risk loss of retained Vietnam. In addition, they felt U.S. intention merely to "respect" any agreement was too weak a term, and requested clarification of its meaning.

Dulles responded the next day to both matters. Points 4 and 5 were not in conflict, he said. It was quite possible that an agreement in line with the seven points might still not prevent Indochina from going communist. The important thing, therefore, was to arrange for national elections in a way that would give the South Vietnamese a Rh

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 * Annuity —
 * Acts granting annuities out of the public revenues— cont. :Napier, Lord
 * 31 & 32 Vict. c. 91.
 * Nelson, Lord (annuity and estates)
 * 46 Geo. 3. c. 146.
 * 53 Geo. 3. c. 146.
 * 55 Geo. 3. c. 96.
 * Penn's descendants
 * 30 Geo. 3. c.46.
 * Prince of Wales
 * 26 & 27 Vict. c. 1.
 * Prince Alfred.
 * See Edinburgh, Duke of.
 * Prince Arthur (Duke of Connaught)
 * 34 & 35 Vict. c. 64.
 * Prince Leopold
 * 37 & 38 Vict. c. 65.
 * Princess Alice
 * 34 & 35 Vict. c. 15.
 * Princess Helena
 * 29 & 30 Vict. c. 7.
 * Princess Louise
 * 34 & 35 Vict. c. 1.
 * Princess Mary (Princess of Teck)
 * 13 & 14 Vict. c. 77.
 * 29 & 30 Vict. c. 48.
 * Princess Royal
 * 20 & 21 Vict. c. 2.
 * Princess of Wales
 * 26 & 27 Vict. c. 1.
 * Raglan, Lord and Lady
 * 18 & 19 Vict. c.64.
 * Richmond,Duke of
 * 39 & 40 Geo. 3. c. 43.
 * Rodney, Lord
 * 33 Geo. 3. c. 77.
 * St Vincent, Lord
 * 38 Geo. 3,c. 21.
 * 46 Geo. 4. c. 92.
 * Seaton, Lord
 * 3 & 4 Vict. c. 11.
 * 19 & 20 Vict. c. 43.
 * Schoenberg's, Duke of, heirs
 * 19 & 20 Vict. c. 59.
 * Wellington. Duke of
 * 50 Geo. 3. c. 8.
 * 52 Geo. 3. c. 37.
 * Wellington,Duke of purchase and settlement of estates for
 * 63 Geo. 3, c. 4.
 * 53 Geo. 3. c. 133.
 * 54 Geo. 3. c. 161.
 * 56 Geo. 3. c. 186.
 * 59 Geo. 3. c. 21.
 * 59 Geo. 3. c. 63.
 * 2 & 3 Vict. c. 4.
 * Williams, Sir W.F.
 * 19 & 20 Vict. c. 30.
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 * 13 & 14 Vict. c. 16.
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 * Searching drugs of, in. London, by warden of Grocers' Company, &c.
 * 32 Hen. 8. c. 40.
 * 1 Mar. sess. 2. c. 9.
 * (E.) 65 Geo. 3. c. 194. s. 3.
 * Exemption of, from office of constable and other parish offices
 * 6 & 7 Will. & Mar. c. 4.
 * Exemption of, from serving on juries.
 * See ;
 * Regulation of society of apothecaries ; power to enter shops and examine drugs ; none to practise as, without certifcate
 * (E.) 55 Geo. 3 c. 194.
 * (E.)37 & 38 Vict. c. 34.
 * Power of society to, strike off names of licentiates convicted of felony or misdemeanor, &c.
 * (E.) 37 & 38 Vict. c. 34. s. 4.
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Please do mark as Proofread
If you have been through the proofreading process, please do mark the page as proofread. It means the next person to proofread the page will be able to move it to the next stage of Validated. — billinghurst  sDrewth  08:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

PSM TOC creation
Continuing the conversation, I added more info.— Ineuw talk 22:19, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

..... Another reply. — Ineuw talk 14:28, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Tancred
Thanks for your sterling work on Tancred. It was next on my to do list and now I can cross it off and not think about it. I hadn't thought of doing the Chapter List as a multicolumn - looks good. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 21:52, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I tried to proofread as well against the file on the Internet Archives file, at least for formatting of paragraphs and italics. For sure some mistake is in there, but more than that was not easy without side-page text :-) Mpaa (talk) 21:59, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
You made a note about a continuing footnote. I addressed this note at Laverock's page as we have a new, improved schema for managing such. — billinghurst  sDrewth  15:22, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Images and copyright Index:John Masefield.djvu
User_talk:Inductiveload

I'd say PD-US-no notice. I checked, that is a Commons template too. The book is US-published, so US copyright is the only one to worry about, even at Commons. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 23:33, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Page:Collodi - The Story of a Puppet, translation Murray, 1892.djvu/7
The above page needs images, then the index can be validated. Could you please add them? --kathleen wright5 (talk) 12:25, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
 * done --Mpaa (talk) 21:27, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Img at Commons
Please see. -- Commons:User:Docu

Inserted missing V92 image
Page:Popular Science Monthly Volume 92.djvu/338

Eurasia neede a redirect.
Number Forms is a redirect to the PSM article. :-) I feel a bit stupid because the article title is instantly added to the searchables. So, I added the Eurasia is a redirect as well. I am sorry for misinforming you due to a temporary memory failure. :-)

To find how it is linked click on "What links here" in the toolbox.— Ineuw talk 04:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Page:Popular Science Monthly Volume 37.djvu/400
Sorry to make you crazy:

Regarding the floating image tables, if you wish to create a smaller image than the usual 200px, then size adjustments must be made in two places: One for the image, and one for the table cell. Then you get a smaller image as in the above page where I also reduced the table to 150px.

 * If the description line contains both small caps and regular lower case, as it does in this page, then one must also change the shorthand parameters of the cell.
 * If the image description exceeds two lines (in the original), then a justified block starting with a hanging indent is called for, instead of a centered line. - See Fig. 13.

When you come to any problem, please contact me and I will gladly help.— Ineuw talk 06:32, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

A Tramp Abroad
Hi Mpaa, thanks for the note. I am not very savvy with how this kind of linking works -- I was mostly just trying to copy what I saw elsewhere in the page, and muddle through figuring out how it works. So I am unlikely to have any brilliant breakthroughs! Feel free to revert my edit, of course, if the page works better without those links. -Pete (talk) 16:02, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

IRC cloack request
request

About your ideas
Hi. If you have an idea how to set up a PSM progress, I would gladly contribute to the effort. The first thing that came to mind is that some of the WikiProject_Popular_Science_Monthly sub-pages are redundant and can be combined into a comprehensive info. I always felt that there are too many sub-pages dealing with navigational issues, but kept delaying to deal with them, like Volume, volume dates, indexes, etc. I would like to incorporate them into a single entry with the addition of the progression of it's components, like images, tables, proofread pages, TOC, indexes, anchors, or whatever. I am just throwing these ideas as I write this. Your thoughts? — Ineuw talk 21:25, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I was thinking something of this kind, just to give you the look and feel: Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Backlog elimination drives/September 2011, of course tailored on PSM needs. I do not know which capabilities WS has to provide the numbers that we would need. But we can ask for assistance to the experts. I have the feeling that with the proper categorization of pages and tagging, one should be able to get the number we need. They can make this kind of calculations: Wikisource_talk:Proofread_of_the_Month on progress vs. pages status. I think that, in the same way pages with image not inseted yet might be counted if tagged properly, pages tagged with PSMTable, etc. Maybe a template similar to the one they use in WP should be created, etc.
 * As first steps, I would say: 1. define what to shall be measured, 2. check what is needed to do it with he help of someone expert in this. Then one could see what is the next step then (e.g. ask for bots to add the info we need, etc.) Does this make sense? --Mpaa (talk) 21:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Apologize for the non-response as I need a little time off from Wikisource because of having neglected personal matters for quite a while. I agree with you 100% that it's best to define what we want, before spending a lot of time in addition to our proofreading. Currently, I am studying the above Wikipedia backlog link to learn from it. Also, I think that we should move this conversation to the project's much neglected talk page. It's a more appropriate (central) place for discussing our ideas and it will show up more accurately on the Recent changes list.— Ineuw talk 20:37, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

submitted for consideration
Just an idea:. Feel free to revert or adapt or adopt. Hesperian 00:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the idea, but in this case, where there may be as many as 10 titles in a series, I took it upon myself to lay it out as Mpaa done here: Popular Science Monthly/Volume 12/January 1878/Illustrations of the Logic of Science II. But, in the end I leave it up to him to make the final decision.— Ineuw talk 09:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Multipart article headers
I really like the aesthetics of the small cap titles as you have them here:Popular Science Monthly/Volume 12/January 1878/Illustrations of the Logic of Science II, but for the time being, I will keep updating the WikiProject Popular Science Monthly/Multi part articles simply because it's a generated list and I find it easy to notice and correct mistakes and omissions. For example:

I know that the whole series of "The Development of American Industries Since Colombus" is wrong and I plan to add short subtitles as I've done in "New Chapters in the Warfare of Science" series. Just because in later articles the main title became the sub-title, this has no bearing on the main namespace title design where we can be consistent. Before creating or changing any main namespace pages, I will submit the revised title list for your consideration. — Ineuw talk 09:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I agree. Regardless of what we do in the Main namespace, a reference place for multi-part articles is needed and that is your list. It is also needed to cross-check if an article is actually part of a series and to make naming uniform. The rest just makes navigation easier for readers but would not be of any help in keeping control and consistency. --Mpaa (talk) 09:37, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Yes, your clarification is superior to mine. :-)

Here is the idea:

The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry I The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry II The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry III The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry IV The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Wool industry I The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Wool industry II The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Wool industry III The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry V The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Iron and steel industry VI The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Pottery industry I The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Pottery industry II The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Musical instruments I The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Musical instruments II The Development of American Industries Since Columbus - Musical instruments III

Sorry.— Ineuw talk 10:17, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

 * And this will have to be adjusted, and probaly more to come from Vol. 41--Mpaa (talk) 10:51, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

The Glass Industry II Note: same series as The Development of American Industries Since Columbus The Glass Industry II Note: same series as The Development of American Industries Since Columbus

I am aware of it, but left it as is in case there is more in volume 41.— Ineuw talk 16:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

PSM progress monitoring
Hi, I've just emailed you the python script that generates the following table. I'm happy to alter and/or run this any time, indefinitely or until you're up to speed and ready to take over. (Sorry for cluttering up your talk page — feel free to delete the table or move it somewhere else) Hesperian 02:27, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

As promised
Hi. As promised, the following is what hopefully will define my ideas.

The TOC in the main namespace is of paramount importance since everything else flows from there. Thus I plan to complete all the TOC's as the primary contribution.

Also decided to alter my approach and collect the article titles without proofreading, since I won't be inserting articles in the main namespace. Causing rancor is really not worth it, regardless of my losing article categorization before a complete article is proofread.

The collected title data will allow me to generate the header pages as before but plan to store them in a Wikisource PSM project sub page, surround by the  tags. Whenever an article is proofread, we just copy/cut the header and paste it in the main ns.

Here is the example for Volume 40.

Along with the header data, I will also generate the index pages at the end of each volume in the Page namespace. When the proofread article is placed in the main ns, the index entry will be automatically be linked since they originate from the same data source.

Will keep updating article lists, authors lists, and any ancillary info that's collected.

Will continue to upload images at a rate of about 20 images per day minimum, I am currently working on images of volume 68 (~140).

Will continue to proofread title pages, pages with images and tables, and an occasional complete article, when of special interest.

Will present you with ideas that cross my mind and place them in my sandboxes.

I collected a great deal of information related to the project, so if you need to know something and save time, please feel free to connect. — Ineuw talk 06:38, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Sounds good!An let's hope someone else will jump on board. If you look at number of pages to be proofread, that is huge :-))

If sometimes you do not feel like making a table, mark it with PSMTable. Every now and then I look in that box and fix something. One minor question on music: I saw a lot of pages with music. Are you taking images for those as well or we just leave the indication that the page needs music? --Mpaa (talk) 07:39, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

 * I also do the same with the pages marked with PSMTable - proofread a few at a time, and I just tagged some more yesterday. When it's a very large table and a fairly clean original, then convert it to a .png.
 * The music is problematic. a. I don't read music, and don't want to learn the software. b. Don't like to ask others, since everyone is busy with their work. c. Did a few images but the original is of very poor quality and require a lot of touch up, so for the time being I just tag the pages.
 * FYI, in addition to the images that go with the text, there are also hundreds of advertisements which I set aside for a later time to be dealt with, since they are of secondary importance to proofreading. — Ineuw talk 15:30, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Ligature in the TOC
Hi. Forgot to mention that ligatures like æ or Æ etc. are omitted from the TOC because it's best to restrict web titles to ANSI/ASCII. I already changed them in the coming Vol 42 TOC. — Ineuw talk 20:28, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. When in doubt I have always put on hold, waiting for your revision first. E.g. The Glass Industry in Vol. 42 is Proofread, I am just waiting that the right multi-article is selected and then it can be transcluded. --Mpaa (talk) 20:31, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
 * One more thought. If you are regenerating the TOC completely, it must be verified that the previous/next links in the Main ns articles are still valid for already transcluded articles before/after what you will modify. --Mpaa (talk) 22:55, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Capitalization and more PSM editing history
Hi.

Please consider posting the main namespace article titles in a sandbox, or email them to me. I will run the capitalization procedure and return them immediately.

History: You can omit the | notes = Scans link from article header. I inherited this from someone and at that time didn't know that the "Source" tab on top is the same link. I do keep it in the TOC's because that's not part of the scans.— Ineuw talk 19:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Apologies 1 & 2
Apology 1 is about my being ever so slow in realizing that you wanted me to create the TOC for volume 68. It's symptomatic, but it's not the advancing age - I was always like that. The next time you would like something, please advance the idea with some detail, and I will oblige, unless there is some emergency which prevents me to do so.

Apology 2. As I was looking for you online to apologize about #1, I wondered into your work in Vol 86 because I saw that you categorized the page as PSM maintenance. Thinking that something was wrong, I made a minor correction. Aside from the fact that this was your territory, I don't even know/understand what this hidden category is. :-)

Hoping to connect soon.— Ineuw talk 20:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. I placed the generated Table of contents HERE and it's identical. Sorry, about this.— Ineuw talk 20:38, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

 * No need to apologize for either 1&2. In #1 you were not slow, I did not expect you to do it. It takes me little effort to generate the TOC once I have the list I sent you by mail. It was good to check capitalization so we avoid the re-generation of the wrong article titles. The page is in maintenance as it needs author. With you Author dB I can now automatically check what is already present in your list or not. Pls send me an update every now and then so I can cross-check.
 * BTW, I saw that you created articles for the whole Vol 42, even if not proofread. I thought that you changed your mind after the discussion of the past weeks ... --Mpaa (talk) 20:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I didn't change my mind. I only did it for Volume 42 since most articles were done, couldn't paste headers selectively just for completed articles, and also the header links would lack continuity.

Since you are working on V68 - the same volume in which the images are in the process of being uploaded, I will expedite the process so, as not to hinder you. - I will let you know how things are going with the images.

Also, if I can clean & proof the Volume Index at the back of the volume. As things stand, I ran into a formatting issue between old vol indexes done months/year ago, and recent ones. I must understand the issue in the differences. I suspect that the problem is with the new software update, but then, I don't understand why old indexes are not affected. Ignorance makes me suspect that old pages are recalled from archive??? Who knows. — Ineuw talk 21:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

 * Do not change your prios just for the images. It is full of work to be done in Vol 68. Proofread pages are lacking a lot of formatting. If I come across an image not ready yet, I will skip it. Take your own time. My progress will not be fast anyhow. In the meantime I am working on maintenance, after my request to Billinghurst.--Mpaa (talk) 21:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Maintenance is also what I am very concerned about so that it doesn't accumulate and overwhelm. Plans mentioned some time ago were not carved in stone, and I wasn't aware of these past issues with the exception of the ones I tagged with PSMTable. Now, I stopped to re-assess my plans. As old issues crop up, I prefer to resolve them rather than undertake new work.

There were 61 images were uploaded up to djvu 193. Still have another 83 pages but some have multiple images, however image preparation and upload is a quick and welcome distraction since I became progressively better at it. When I started I knew 0 about images.

Also, don't consider the Vol 68 TOC as final. It's missing info about articles that begin in mid page, and we don't yet know if any of the articles are multi-part.— Ineuw talk 22:26, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I checked articles to build the table I sent you and no one begins in the middle of the page. Multi-part article: I identified only what I inserted in your list on PSM project page (see top part). I can't remember articles which might suggest to be a continuation, but I will re-check when proofreading first page. (unless I am wrong, which can always be ...). --Mpaa (talk) 22:39, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I commented on your discussion re: PSM maintenance
Just in case you missed it, I commented on your discussion of PSM maintenance on Billinghurst's page HERE. — Ineuw talk 03:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Volume 68 Authors & articles to be added
Hi. Merged your author list to my master list, matched them to the Vol 68 Article titles and generated new PSM contributor lists (look at my contributions). If you sort the Change columns, it will show you the names & current contributions. You are welcome to add the new contributors and their contribution, if you wish.— Ineuw talk 06:21, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

P.S: Also placed the main namespace headers in WikiProject Popular Science Monthly/Volume 68 for future use. — Ineuw talk 06:30, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Revisiting Vol 42 TOC
I pasted your original Vol 42 TOC to see which article titles changed so that I can delete the incorrect ones. I didn't find any. Have you had them deleted? — Ineuw talk 06:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Re: Conflicting PSM pages by StateOfAvon
I figured out how I can move User:StateOfAvon's collection of articles to his subpages so that they won't be lost. Let me know what you think. — Ineuw talk 06:40, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I replaced the content of his articles with redirects to PSM (e.g. |The_Meaning_of_Easter_Eggs) according to the directives B. gave. I did it for articles which pointed at a proper PSM structure (Vols<43). But if you want, you can move all of them. to me they are not very useful. --Mpaa (talk) 07:59, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

 * It took awhile to refresh my memory about conversations I had with StateOfAvon about his contributions and I understand what you did. I was referring to a "deeper" level of his work and surprised that you can't read my mind :-).

 * At the start of StateOfAvon's contributions, I tried to convince him to place the work in his namespace because I had sufficient foresight to know that his selections and ideas are problematic . Namely that, while we have portals and categories in the traditional sense, I haven't seen a personal portal which selectively relates to a single user's particular interest.

 * Personally, I think that this is a unique idea which can be implemented within the framework of WS and even enhance additional contributor participation. However, then as now, I am not ready to present this idea because I haven't thought it through, it would delay my own proofreading progress. I am always confident that in time, a satisfactory solution will be found.

 * Essentially, I looked for a way to gently guide him to a better quality of proofreading in the context of WS and the PSM project. The end of the story is that he disappeared. Nevertheless, I will save his work to his namespace, and eventually create a main namespace "portal/access" of sorts that would find approval from the community and StateOfAvon, and use it as the foundation for the idea. — Ineuw talk 07:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

my sandbox
Hey if you could check out (on my Page) the PSM Vols 1 to 10 table, I borrowed the template you used for PSM stats for my direct article stats. I did one, but it looks funny. Is it supposed to look like that since it is 100% validated? And I hope you don't mind me using your progress bar.

My ultimate goal = make an easy to reference table showing each article and its status (i.e. to see which ones need worked on). If you have any suggestions or ideas, feel free to say them. - Tannertsf (talk) 20:40, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

 * Looks like that as you have only 98% pages validated. I was thinking that maybe is better to use number of pages. I found out that WS Sweden has a similar template based on number of pages. What do you think? See Swedish template?
 * How do you get those numbers? Are they real-time? I am trying to figure out a way on how that is done. Do you know how? Can you connect to freenode IRC? --Mpaa (talk) 21:01, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

 * I'm just doing an old-fashioned way, which will initially take a while but after will be short. That is to count the lines of an article. For example, lets say one article has 1,000 lines. If the first pages were validated, then it would be something like 400 out of 1000, so it would be 40% on the progress bar. And so on, and so on. - Tannertsf (talk) 21:09, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

 * How do you do that? Do you have some scripts? I have asked how do they get the colored bar on top of the article. That is automatically done, so there must be a way. I think I found a work-around through the API:Query but that's beyond my programming skills. Which are very basic. --Mpaa (talk) 21:15, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

I have no programming skills, so I will use my own way since this project of mine is mine at least for now. - Tannertsf (talk) 21:17, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I thought you were interested in the possibility of getting something that might save you time and give better accuracy. To be honest, when you say 'mine', that surprises me a bit as we are on a wiki after all ... I'll let you know if I find out more. As far as the Pagestatus template is concerned, I might change inputs to absolute numbers in the future. I still need to make up my mind on what is the best way to provide the input. --Mpaa (talk) 21:53, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Well, what I mean by "mine" is that before we put it onto the project, I want to finalize it. But I do also only want a couple of people to help at most, because I want to do this. Way too many past projects that were finished before I could barely start on them. And I want to do the line count because I feel a guesstimation is not practical - we need correct %'s. Sorry if I seem like a Nazi but I just want everything to work out well. - Tannertsf (talk) 22:54, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
 * To make things work well is also my goal. That's why I am investigating if these numbers can be get free of charge and correct, without investing time in getting them. Sorry if I am a bit busybody, just curious to see if I can learn from others. How will you do the counting of the lines and update of the information as the proofreading process proceed? --Mpaa (talk) 23:06, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Definitely not a busybody - I don't like the way people work so fast on here like its the end of the world or something. I will do the counting of the lines with a tool my friend uses, but can't give out. I will reassess it every 2-3 weeks. Yes, thats slow, but will have to do. Hence my comment to start this. - Tannertsf (talk) 23:18, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Some minor reorganization
Hi. I've been quietly working to clean up after the two broken volumes so that I can get back to my old routine. I split the multiple part articles to two pages 1 & 2 because of its increasing size ~600. When you have the inclination, would you kindly look at them, and please feel free to modify them as you wish. — Ineuw talk 04:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. Had a look at them. Looks OK to me. These tables are really useful! I like to follow the chain in proofreading. --Mpaa (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, and I can't help but keep defending my approach because dealing with article titles, authors and organizing in general, as the first part of proofreading, reduces an incredible mess later on. Furthermore, it will be a better incentive to proofread a single article of personal interest. WS editors are greatly mistaken when comparing a magazine project with books.— Ineuw talk 23:16, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That is one of the paths I follow to proof read here and there. Sometimes multi-articles, sometimes Categories, as you might have noticed.
 * BTW, 2 things. 1) Page 737 is not very nice. Do you think it is worthwhile breaking into smaller images? I could do it if you agree, but I am not sure the effort will be worth the final result. second opinion appreciated. 2)I noticed that you are in contact with LJB. I have followed her in my watchlist and it would be very really good if we could make her interested in PSM. --Mpaa (talk) 23:36, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That page on Arabic numerals was one of my first image efforts. :-) Please feel free to do anything you want with any part of the project. :-). I would love to get her interested in PSM. She's is a wonderful editor, but I presume that she is interested in the Atlantic Monthly, which was/is a very good and popular publication. — Ineuw talk 23:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

PSM contributions by Italian scientists
I don't know if you are interested, but there are a number of wonderful contributions by Italian scientists written up in PSM. The dearth of published material is due to a variety of reasons; in the 1870's it was because unification has taken up a great share of the meager resources, and later, I justifiably suspect that there was a confluence of language issues, as well as national rivalries among the European scientific circles. This is just another area of my many interests, since I consider myself an unabashed, albeit an idealistic admirer of the risorgimento and its three main players, Garibaldi, Mazzini, and count Cavour. :-)

About the evolution of the English language to its current usage, I would recommend proofreading pages post 1895. It amazes me the change that occurred with the short time of two decades. Enjoy. — Ineuw talk 05:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

 * About contributions by Italian scientists written up in PSM. That would be nice. Is there an easy way to pin-point them? I came cross a few of them but randomly. --Mpaa (talk) 08:18, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. I didn't mark them, thinking that I will find them again when re-reading, proofreading or validating. The first one which really impressed me was the analog facsimile (fax) and how well it worked. Here is the link: Page:Popular Science Monthly Volume 3.djvu/430 — Ineuw talk 00:31, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Incorrect Djvu numbers on images
Hi. In about 10-15 volumes the downloaded .JP2 Djvu numbers were off, (usually by 2), from the our WS scan Djvu number. Corrected hundreds of them before uploading, but there may be a few that I missed. When you insert an image and notice that the Djvu doesn't match our Wikisource Djvu number, please tell me and I will move it immediately. Thanks.— Ineuw talk 02:00, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I will. Is this related to my request here for Volume 10? In that case there was an offset 2 (p. 85 instead of 83) in the jp2 image I took. I didn't bother too much as it was taken from another scan. I named the image I posted as 83 to match the page number on djvu we are using and where we will swap the image. Hope what I did is correct. Can you cross-check it and notify George_Orwell_III if my request is not correct? --Mpaa (talk) 10:42, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

 * Hi. They are not related. :-). Whatever you did is fine as GO3 needs all the info to be sure. My image naming convention was the result of demands for our need to accurately identify the image location, (page numbers are not accurate), and the Commons' requirement that a description must accompany the image. I combined the two and that worked out great as everyone who uses the images appreciates it.

 * The downloaded .JP2 package contains one numbered file per page. (900 pages = 900 files), and the numbers correspond to our .djvu number, unless the volunteers make an error when scanning the pages. The situations include leaving their hands under the scanner and then attempting to correct, stopping and then restarting the job on the wrong page, two different machines are used in one volume, or two volunteers working on the same volume. Each error tells a different story, and one can unravel them on a cold winter day, when it's dark outside, its snowing, and one studies the tech info provided on the IA page of the volumes. Now, I check the file numbers with our .djvu numbers of the volume, and if there is an error, I correct. — Ineuw talk 19:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Categorization
Hi. You can find the prepared headers HERE to save you time reconstructing them. Also, you don't have to bother with categorization, I will add THIS CATEGORY to every header and when time comes, I will categorize them properly. If this is not added, I won't find the articles unless I check every web page which is a slow process. Thanks. :-) — Ineuw talk 19:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK. --Mpaa (talk) 20:18, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
 * A Categorised Uncategorised subject is a paradox ... :-) --Mpaa (talk) 20:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * :-)) Absolutely, but it's the only way articles can be identified properly. Even the PSMTable template is linked to a category. — Ineuw talk 02:04, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

The progress of our knowledge of the flora of North America
I found this problematic as well. It's a beautiful effort, and I don't know how to incorporate it, because of the addition of some text not in our PSM original, and because of the Garamond font. If you have any ideas, please let me know.— Ineuw talk 17:47, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Maybe we could use versions? Or add a note in PSM article that also this one exists? --Mpaa (talk) 19:05, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

 * I really like both solutions, but I think that in this case the note is better because this is not really two versions from PSM, only two versions of an article which, (I suspect based on past experience with PSM that) they shortened to suit the monthly issue. :-) — Ineuw talk 01:59, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Bot running with no edit summary
Hi, I'm just starting to look at Recent Changes for the last day or so and see that your bot is beavering away but it's not leaving an edit summary. Without it we can't see instantly what it's up to. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:00, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I know, I am using replace.py ( python ..\pywikipedia\replace.py -cat:Popular_Science_Monthly_Volume_22 -fix:example, with example containing regex) to remove unwanted comment in notes field of header. I tried to use -summary option. I did not manage to get anything out of it, summary was blank in some tests I did in my User space. So I left it without option, at least it was writing some words. I should have asked on #wikisource ... I apologise for the inconvenience. If you can indicate how the option should be set, that would be appreciated. --Mpaa (talk) 19:11, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Addition. I tried some more. The only way I managed is one word only, with _ instead of blanks. I will use it like this until I will learn more. --Mpaa (talk) 19:21, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * (e/c) Sorry, I can't help you there - this is out of my current field of knowledge. I've just reviewed WS:BOTS and I can't recall seeing a community request on the Scriptorium for this bot; I also note the expectation that a useful edit summary will be used. I'm going to have to request you stop the bot running until you've resolved this issues. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:23, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I tried to understand the process (I asked billinghurst who pointed me to the directive). As that was not reaaly clear to me, I chatted with Doug on which bots I was going to use and the process. My understanding was that if I use bots from pywikipedia, with no additional coding on my side, it was enough to create a Bot account and run the script. So now I am a bit lost in the next steps to resolve the issues. Do I have to ask on Scriptorium everytime I want to use replace.py for example? Are you connected to #wikisource right now? We might continue there. --Mpaa (talk) 19:30, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, I'm not an IRC user. The relevant section of the policy is WS:BOTS. There's a section in WS:S for BOT approval requests. Just add a new subsection there with the name of your bot and what you are going to use it for in broad brushstrokes (e.g. "Maintaining PSM articles in the main namespace only"). Once you have approval from the community for its use then you can use it for the purpose you stated. It's only if you want to use the bot outside of your original field of reference that you would need to come back to WS:S to ask for approval for a different use. Cheers, Beeswaxcandle (talk) 19:40, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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