text:
半圓

Noun

 * 1) semicircle

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

title: 半圓


text: 半圆

title: 半圆


text:
山泉

Noun

 * 1) mountain spring

title: 山泉


text:
山洪

Noun

 * 1) mountain torrents

title: 山洪


text:
山牆

Noun

 * 1) gable

title: 山牆


text: 山墙

title: 山墙


text:
山神

Noun

 * 1) mountain deity

Noun

 * 1) deity of a mountain
 * 2) deities and spirits which dwell in the mountains

title: 山神


text:
山窩

Noun

 * 1) out-of-the-way mountain area

Noun

 * 1)  col

title: 山窩


text: 山窝

title: 山窝


text: Citations:clattawa

title: Citations:clattawa


text:
山系

Noun

 * 1)  mountain system

title: 山系


text: Nooan

title: Nooan


text: 山积

title: 山积


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/lahō

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) lake
 * 2) pond; pool; puddle

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/lahō


text: pipfruit

title: pipfruit


text: pipfruits

title: pipfruits


text:
Veeh

Etymology
From, , , from. More at 🇨🇬.

title: Veeh


text: ikiin

title: ikiin


text:
山澗

Noun

 * 1) mountain stream; mountain creek

title: 山澗


text: 山涧

title: 山涧


text: ikineen

title: ikineen


text:
山莊

Noun

 * 1) mountain villa
 * 2) mountain village

title: 山莊


text: 山庄

title: 山庄


text: iälle

title: iälle


text: iältä

title: iältä


text:
山貨

Noun

 * 1) mountain products (such as haws, chestnuts, and walnuts)
 * 2) household utensils made of wood, bamboo, clay, etc.

title: 山貨


text: iällä

title: iällä


text: 山货

title: 山货


text:
山子

Noun

 * 1) rockery; rock garden

title: 山子


text:
山巒

Noun

 * 1) chain of mountains; multipeaked mountain

title: 山巒


text: 山峦

title: 山峦


text: 山岚

title: 山岚


text:
보통화

Noun

 * 1) Putonghua, Mandarin Chinese the official language of the People's Republic of China

title: 보통화


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (19)

To be more exact, it seems to be the line 202 through 214: if not stems["ill_pl"] and stems["pl"] then stems["ill_pl"] = {} for _, stem in ipairs(stems["pl"]) do			-- If the stem ends in a long vowel or diphthong, then add -h if mw.ustring.find(stem, "([aeiouyäö])%1$") or mw.ustring.find(stem, "[aeiouyäö][iyü]$") then require("Module:debug").track("fi-nominals/h") table.insert(stems["ill_pl"], stem .. "h") else table.insert(stems["ill_pl"], stem) end end end

title: Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (19)


text:
山凹

Noun

 * 1) mountain cave, hole, recess, etc.

title: 山凹


text: widelcem

title: widelcem


text:
山國

Noun

 * 1) mountainous country; hilly region

title: 山國


text: 山国

title: 山国


text: 山贼

title: 山贼


text: szklankę

title: szklankę


text:
山坳

Noun

 * 1) col

title: 山坳


text: kawy

title: kawy


text:
山陵

Noun

 * 1)  tall and lofty mountain
 * 2)  tomb of an emperor; imperial tomb

title: 山陵


text:
山雞

Noun

 * 1)  pheasant
 * 2)  someone who doesn't know how to swim

title: 山雞


text: 山鸡

title: 山鸡


text:
山風

Noun

 * 1) mountain breeze; mountain wind
 * 2)  katabatic wind; downslope wind; mountain breeze

title: 山風


text: 山风

title: 山风


text: transhumanisms

title: transhumanisms


text:
山響

Adjective

 * 1) deafening; thunderous

title: 山響


text:
-oidi

Etymology
<

Suffix

 * 1) -oid similar to, but not the same

Usage notes

 * Used in terms in which the headword is a loanword.

title: -oidi


text: 山响

title: 山响


text:
山難

Noun

 * 1) accident during mountain climbing

title: 山難


text: 山难

title: 山难


text:
Hispania Tarraconensis

Proper noun

 * 1) A province that till the 3rd century comprised the North and East of the Hispania; later
 * 2) A province, surrounding  (modern Tarragona), in Northeastern Spain.

title: Hispania Tarraconensis


text: nożyczek

title: nożyczek


text: κατσαρό

title: κατσαρό


text: czasopisma

title: czasopisma


text:
κατσαρός

Adjective

 * 1) curly

title: κατσαρός


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (20)

Oh no, the change made things worse. Originally there were only two affected words AFAIK: boa and Nooa, plus their compounds of course. Now the whole "risti"-category goes wrong: partitive plural becomes "risteiä". I suggest you revert the edit and figure out a better solution.

title: Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (20)


text:
Tarraconensis

Adjective

 * 1) of  pertaining to  (modern Tarragona), in Northeastern Spain.

title: Tarraconensis


text: κατσαρού

title: κατσαρού


text: తోలాం

title: తోలాం


text: κατσαρέ

title: κατσαρέ


text: κατσαρή

title: κατσαρή


text: κατσαρής

title: κατσαρής


text: తైలం

title: తైలం


text: κατσαρών

title: κατσαρών


text: κατσαρά

title: κατσαρά


text: κατσαρές

title: κατσαρές


text: తులం

title: తులం


text: κατσαροί

title: κατσαροί


text: κατσαρούς

title: κατσαρούς


text: హలం

title: హలం


text: శ్రీఫలం

title: శ్రీఫలం


text:
posthumanity

Noun

 * 1) The quality or condition of being a posthuman.
 * 2) Posthumans as a group; mankind populated by posthumans.

title: posthumanity


text: posthumanities

title: posthumanities


text: dzwonki

title: dzwonki


text: Category:zh:Parapsychology

title: Category:zh:Parapsychology


text: post-humanism

title: post-humanism


text: post-humanisms

title: post-humanisms


text: φαρμάκωσα

title: φαρμάκωσα


text: φαρμακώνομαι

title: φαρμακώνομαι


text: φαρμακώθηκα

title: φαρμακώθηκα


text: కూలం

title: కూలం


text: dzwonka

title: dzwonka


text: తలం

title: తలం


text: జాలం

title: జాలం


text:
technoromanticism

Etymology
, coined by between 1991 and 1996.

Noun

 * 1)  The theory of links between art and new technologies, within the context of the threats posed to nature by technoscience and economic development.

title: technoromanticism


text: εξοχική

title: εξοχική


text: εξοχικής

title: εξοχικής


text: User:Anthracenedione

title: User:Anthracenedione


text:
หมึกกระดอง

Etymology
From 🇰🇲.

Noun

 * 1) cuttlefish.

title: หมึกกระดอง


text:
technoself

Noun

 * 1) The interdisciplinary concept which deals with all aspects of human identity in a technological society.
 * 2) Self in the context of the technologically developed society.

title: technoself


text: technoselves

title: technoselves


text: idą

title: idą


text:
มนตร์

Etymology
From ; probably via. Compare Modern 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) mantra.

title: มนตร์


text:
มนต์

Etymology
From ; probably via. Compare Modern 🇨🇬.

title: มนต์


text: జీవితకాలం

title: జీవితకాలం


text:
User:Ajpolino

Hello! If you want to reach me, you'll have much better luck over at w:User Talk:Ajpolino!

title: User:Ajpolino


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2016/September 16


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/reply (8)

Where is this supposed Lepontic Unicode block? Point me to it. I would be terrifically surprised to discover a separate Lepontic Unicode block given that the Unicode standard was amended in 2014 according to this 2011 request to make the Old Italic script block be used for Lepontic.


text:
కలకాలము

Adverb

 * 1) always, at all times.
 * 2) for ever.

title: కలకాలము


text: కలకాలం

title: కలకాలం


text:
కలియుగము

Proper noun

 * 1)  The Kali Yuga, i.e. Modern times beginning from the Deluge.

title: కలియుగము


text: కలియుగం

title: కలియుగం


text: Category:Old English terms suffixed with -ot


text:
User talk:Ajpolino

Hi. Transwikis from Wikipedia are rarely useful to Wiktionary, and should probably not be done any more. Not only were there serious formatting issues with your entry alabaster brow, but it probably does not even meet our criteria for inclusion; I have sent it to RFD (our version of WP's AfD). —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 06:25, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi Metaknowledge, sorry about that! There wasn't enough info on it to make an article on the WP side either so I'd hoped it might be useful to someone. Didn't meant to make a mess. Thanks for picking up after me! Ajpolino (talk) 06:30, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

title: User talk:Ajpolino


text: Rhymes:Telugu/కం

title: Rhymes:Telugu/కం


text: internettleverandører

title: internettleverandører


text: internettleverandørene

title: internettleverandørene


text: internettleverandørar

title: internettleverandørar


text: internettleverandørane

title: internettleverandørane


text:
Kentish plover

Noun

 * , a small wader that breeds in a wide range, from southern Europe to Japan and in Ecuador, Peru, Chile, the southern United States and the Caribbean, but not including Kent.

Translations

 * Catalan: corriol camanegre
 * Czech: kulík mořský
 * Dutch: ,
 * Finnish:
 * Irish: feadóigín chosdubh
 * Japanese: シロチドリ
 * Maltese: monakella żgħira
 * Polish: sieweczka morska
 * Russian: морской зуёк
 * Swedish:
 * Welsh: cwtiad Caint
 * West Frisian: dûkelmantsje

title: Kentish plover


text:
gubber

Noun

 * 1)  A gold ducat or sequin.

title: gubber


text: gubbene

title: gubbene


text:
วิตามิน

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) vitamin.

title: วิตามิน


text:
ไวตามิน

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  vitamin

title: ไวตามิน


text:
User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 11

"this isn't Wikipedia"
It's true. But this doesn't mean that here we mustn't apply the same rules. The adding of the asterisk for syntactic gemination is just an intromission from IvanScrooge98. It's not used in any phonetic transcription and above all it's not found in the IPA which is the alphabet used to transcribe the pronunciation of the words here. I wonder why an arbitrary convention as IvanScrooge98's should be kept. He inserted that symbol in the Wiki dictionary on its own initiative and without consulting anyone. He did the same in the Wiki encyclopedia and there he was contested. The issue was discussed and it was decided unanimously to remove the asterisks. Tell me why it's worng to remove his personal IPA convention and right to leave it here please.

 * I don't necessarily feel that we should use the asterisk notation here, but I do feel that we should discuss it here first, separately from the discussion on Wikipedia, and come to our own conclusion. You can bring it up at the Beer parlor for discussion. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 18:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Well, in this case wouldn't it be better to start removing IvanScrooge98's insertion in order to restore the previous status quo and then discuss about the possible use of the asterisk for syntactic gemination in Italian? It's normally this the ways Wikipedians deal with such issues, when something not enough encyclopedic but quite subjective is added it's removed until a consensus to add it is reached... Furthermore, in the discussion I've mentioned above IvanScrooge98 didn't even take part! 1 + 1 = 2

 * If it were a brand-new addition, yes, but it isn't. It's been there several months already and seems to be in use in several entries. By this time, removing it requires discussion. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:17, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Okay, I understand your point of view even if I don't agree, it's not urgent so I'm not doing it right now.

Fête 2.0
aka, who is globally locked under both accounts, has reappeared as /. He's been doing mostly Chinese/Cantonese edits, which makes sense, since that's his native language. It's entirely possible that those are ok.

Unfortunately, he's also been doing edits of English pronunciation sections. He's always had a real fascination with pronunciation, but in the past has been really bad at it. I suspect that he's still having problems, but my IPA skills aren't strong enough to properly patrol those edits. Could you look through his English-language contributions and check for any problems? Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 02:06, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The English pronunciation edits look fine to me, apart from (1) his insistence on putting British pronunciations first (which strikes me as POV-pushing), and (2) his use of the labels "UK" and "US", which are meaningless in pronunciation sections. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 09:23, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Request to unblock an user
Hi Angr! I'm contacting you as the last active sysop I found in recentchanges, I notice a [//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/.mau. fellow it.wiki's admin] has been blocked for 9 years for "unacceptable username". I'm pretty sure it was at time but because of sul such this limitation shouldn't be longer in effect. Can you please give me a feedback about the best way to get him unblocked? Thank you! --Vituzzu (talk) 20:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess the best thing would be to ask at the Beer Parlor. I don't see any reason for him to be blocked indefinitely, but maybe other people know more about what constitutes an unacceptable user name than I do. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 20:09, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Special language codes for Khmer
Hello! --หมวดซาโต้ (talk) 06:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * 1) I was referred to you by User talk:Stephen G. Brown. Please see: User talk:Stephen G. Brown and User talk:Stephen G. Brown.
 * 2) Would you please create special language codes for Old Khmer, Pre-Angkorian Khmer, Angkorian Khmer, and Middle Khmer? Thank you very much!
 * Having read Khmer language I'm not convinced there's a need for separate codes for Old Khmer, Pre-Angkorian Khmer, and Angkorian Khmer. How about if I just create codes for Old Khmer and Middle Khmer? How do  and   sound? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:45, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Though Pre-Angkorian Khmer and Angkorian Khmer are part of Old Khmer, Pre-Angkorian and Angkorian terms are sometimes different (e.g. according to this, the Old Khmer term kaṅa was also spelt as kaṅ during the Pre-Angkorian period and as koṅ during the Angkorian period). Separate codes will also enable us to specifically indicate the origin of a term (e.g. the Thai term "จับ" jàp was derived from Pre-Angkorian Khmer cap, not from Angkorian cāp). So, I personally think we need separate codes for them. Anyway, let's hear 's opinion. He principally works on Khmer here. --หมวดซาโต้ (talk) 02:50, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It's possible to distinguish stages of a language in etymologies without having separate codes. We do this for Latin, where etymologies distinguish between Vulgar Latin, Ecclesiastical Latin, Late Latin, Medieval Latin, and Renaissance Latin, but for entries they're all just . So it would be possible to have etymologies distinguish between Angkorian Old Khmer and Pre-Angkorian Old Khmer, while still just having Old Khmer for entries. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * To clarify: we do that by making etymology-only codes for the variants, so that references to the languages in the etymology templates can use those codes, but the terms themselves and the references to them use the main code. Thus LL. produces 🇨🇬, but you would refer to la/ rather than LL., which would give you a module error. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * However, you can use the etym-only codes together with the term when you use the templates der, bor, and inh, e.g. fr. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:28, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Still a little confusing. So we would need at least one new code, since the older forms of Khmer will be in the Latin alphabet and presumably in a separate category or categories from the Modern Khmer entries. Thus for Khmer, one would use km km, Old Khmer mkh-okm mkh, Pre-Angkorian Khmer mkh-pakm mkh, Angkorian Khmer mkh-akm mkh, and Middle Khmer mkh-mkm mkh. —Stephen (Talk) 17:15, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Almost. We would need mkh-okm and mkh-mkm to be regular codes, which could be used for anything. The codes mkh-pakm and mkh-akm would be etymology-only codes that are sort of subcodes of the other two: assuming that Pre-Angkhorian Khmer is part of Old Khmer, you would have mkh-pakm mkh-okm. mkh is a family code, and you can't speak a family, so mkh won't work.
 * As Angr mentioned, there are a whole series of new etymological templates that work like a combination of etyl and m. All of these are smart enough to use the etymology-only code for the etyl part and the main code for the m part. For instance, fr is exactly equivalent to  LL. la. bor, and inh are used for borrowings and inherited terms, respectively, while cog is used where you don't want it to add an etymological category, so you could safely have fr (which produces "🇨🇬") in etymologies at, , or . Confusingly, bor is different in that it adds "Borrowing from" unless you tell it not to, but there's talk of getting rid of that feature. The other source of confusion is that the order of the language-code parameters in those templates is reversed from the way etyl has them, but etyl always was a bit counter-intuitive.
 * My apologies to Angr for turning a simple conversation into a seminar... Chuck Entz (talk) 22:03, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

OK, I have now created the language codes  for Middle Khmer and   for Old Khmer. Both are set to use the Latin alphabet. These codes can be used in all situations where any other language code (e.g.  for Modern Khmer) could be used.  In addition, I've created the etymology-only codes  for Angkorian Old Khmer and   for Pre-Angkorian Old Khmer. These codes can be used in Etymology sections inside etym, bor, cog, der, and inh tags, but not inside l, m, and t tags.  Finally, I've created the pseudo-regional tags  and   which can be used inside lb and label in Old Khmer entries to tag certain senses as belonging to one or the other variety of Old Khmer. This will place words into the categories Category:Angkorian Old Khmer and Category:Pre-Angkorian Old Khmer.  Moreover, JohnC5 has very kindly set Middle Khmer as an ancestor of Khmer and Old Khmer as an ancestor of Middle Khmer, so now inh can be used to trace Khmer words as inherited at every stage from Modern Khmer all the way back to Proto-Austro-Asiatic. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 06:17, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
 * :) — JohnC5 06:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you again. Would you please create an etymology-only code for Modern Khmer too? Such code is and will be required by a considerable number of entries. Thank you very much! --หมวดซาโต้ (talk) 03:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Modern Khmer is a full-fledged language, not an etymology-only language. You can use  in the etymology templates. For example, the etymology section at kouprey says "From 🇨🇬  ", which could be rewritten as "From  " or as "  ". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand that  is equal to Modern Khmer. But when I need to distinguish varieties of the Khmer language, I just feel weird to manually add the word "Modern" (see the etymology of จวัก for example). Is such manual addition okay? Or should I avoid doing so? --หมวดซาโต้ (talk) 13:16, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I think adding the word "Modern" manually is fine. I've done that for Modern Irish and Modern Greek myself. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 13:33, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much! I am very grateful for your kindness. --หมวดซาโต้ (talk) 14:12, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Old Irish for dó
We currently seem to be missing an entry for this rather elementary word. Could you create one? —CodeCat 22:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The Old Irish word for "two" is listed at, though it should probably really be at since that's the oldest form. When used independently (i.e. not directly governing a noun) the form is , which becomes  in Middle and Modern Irish, but AFAIK dó doesn't occur in Old Irish proper. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 05:28, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

A Question... maybe.
When I was dreaming this morning I had a question that I wanted to ask you, but (since I was dreaming) I was unable to ask it. If I remember what it is, I will ask you. I'm a little ticked off that I can't remember it, honestly. Tharthan (talk) 15:40, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

drobami
Hello. I have noticed that you edited the entry drobami, but it seems that the template  does not exist. Did you mean to add  ? --Jan Kameníček (talk) 16:46, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I guess, if that's the only way to make it work. There was no reason for instrumental plural to be deleted, though. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:47, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It never existed in the first place. DTLHS (talk) 16:50, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Right, I meant instrumental plural of, which is the template I actually used at drobami. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:52, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

We exist phrase
If you would like to translate the phrase into German, "We exist because God loves us.", that could be great. Here's my somewhat educated guess: Wir existieren, weil Gott uns liebt. Also: "When in doubt, go back to your roots." --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 21:57, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, Wir existieren, weil Gott uns liebt sounds fine. For the other, Im Zweifelsfall kehre zurück zu deinen Wurzeln. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 22:07, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

One Burmese Noun
Hippietrail added. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 11:52, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

 * Also, don't be afraid to check the newly added pages (such as ) as well as the oldest entries by their last edit. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 14:25, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

FWOTD pronunciation help
Phonology isn't my strong suit, and I've shied away from adding pronunciations in any languages other than those that I actually have some experience in. As you expressed willingness to help with FWOTD, I was wondering if you could apply your skills to reviewing the linguistic literature to help add pronunciations for terms like Wintu or Hausa, which have lingered unfeatured for a while for that reason. Please don't feel obligated, but I would appreciate whatever help I can get. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 23:45, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do, but without access to a university library it may be very difficult to find out complete information (especially regarding stress, which is often overlooked in simple phonological descriptions). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 07:42, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Not knowing your situation in meatspace, I wasn't sure what you have access to. Well, whatever you can do is appreciated. I just became mildly concerned at the fact that after setting a bunch of words, there aren't too many left that are ready to be featured! —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 08:21, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't forget about Foreign Word of the Day/Emergency. There may be gold among the dross. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:27, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
 * I thought I'd leave it for emergencies, being rather boring words overall. It might be more useful if an updated version were to be produced, but I won't bother Ungoliant for that unless I really need it. In any case, you're right that I should go through it more systematically. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 08:31, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Diminutives for lb-noun
The template ought to have a parameter for diminutive forms, just like. --Lo Ximiendo (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
 * It's not protected; go for it! :) —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:02, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

copper in Cyprius
Better in Derived terms? Sobreira (talk) 08:53, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
 * No, that's for same-language terms too. It could go in Descendants, but it should really be in the Descendants section of ; could be in Derived terms of, though. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:55, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

OCS pronunciations
I noticed you added IPA to, , , and. We generally don't add IPA pronunciations to OCS terms. There is so much we don't know about it that the IPA cannot possibly be accurate, plus the IPA you added does not convey any information not conveyed in the transliteration. Also, it was more of a literary language and not so much a spoken language, and so probably did not have a well-defined pronunciation and was pronounced according to the various vernacular Slavic dialects. User:CodeCat and User:Ivan Štambuk can probably explain this in more detail. --WikiTiki89 19:48, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I only added it to make them eligible for FWOTD. If OCS words can be exempt from FWOTD's requirement of pronunciation information, I don't mind if it's removed. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:53, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * That's a good point. What do you think about this? --WikiTiki89 19:55, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Two independent references or quotations is sufficient for featuring at FWOTD, so the pronunciation isn't even strictly necessary. That said, even for a language like OCS, I don't see why we can't just give IPA and put in something like "per the reconstruction by Fulano et al.", and then put Fulano et al. in the References section. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 20:01, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Don't forget that OCS had tonal accents, like Slovene and Serbo-Croatian still do. —CodeCat 20:47, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * : I deliberately omitted all stress and accent information from OCS because it isn't shown in the writing, so it would have to be purely conjectural (even more conjectural than the segmental info). Besides, I myself don't know where the accents are conjectured to be. The pitch accent systems of Slovene and SC have changed a lot since Proto-Slavic, and I am in no position to be guessing where OCS's accents fell or how they were realized. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:06, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Most likely, OCS still had the archaic accent like that found in Chakavian. —CodeCat 21:54, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
 * The problem is we don't know exactly what the accents were like or on which syllable they were on for every form of every word. I would support giving a pronunciation from a reference like in Metaknowledge's example, but only if the reference gives the pronunciation of that specific word. --WikiTiki89 14:43, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

PIE/ine-pro
Can I ask you from time to time (let's say once a week) about ProtoIndoEuropean? Things like why this evolves to that, or what form/grade is one? For the sake of timing, are you West Coast, East Coast, European, Australian? Sobreira (talk) 06:29, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * It's probably better to ask at the Etymology Scriptorium. There's a lot about PIE I don't know or don't remember (it was more than 20 years ago that I studied it). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 06:33, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, but it's more about solving my ignorance than fixing or checking something wrong. Sobreira (talk) 09:14, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
 * I understand that, but I think you'll be better served by getting answers from several people rather than just from me. If you just ask me, more often than not my answer will probably be "I dunno". —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 11:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

e-mail
Hi, Angr. I sent you an e-mail. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 10:25, 17 June 2016 (UTC)

Dere
Yes, you are right. It does not apply to Etymology 3. For Etymology 3, /dɛːɹ/ is appropriate. A slight oversight on my part.

Collins' pronunciation for Etymologies 1 and 2 is /dɪə/.

IPA Reality Check On New Contributor
It's probably nothing, but I get nervous any time I see a new contributor making large numbers of edits with edit comments like "wrong" and "incorrect". They do seem to know their IPA pretty well, but it would be good to confirm that they're not trying to singlehandedly upend current practice. I'd appreciate it if you could look through their edits, and see if they're doing things right. The user is (please note that I'm just using the vandal template for convenience- I wouldn't dream of accusing them of vandalism). Chuck Entz (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
 * He seems to be working mostly on languages I don't know very well (or at all), so I'm not really in a position to verify his edits, but Ungoliant has already engaged him on his talk page, so it looks like on top of it. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 08:57, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

Rith
It rhymes with teeth, heath and neath. The spelling for this word is a bit messed up. And I am not really sure how to spell it in the first place, because I never saw it spelled I just heard it said. There seem to be a ton of forms out there for this word. There is even a form reeth, but there are also ryth, and rithe and ride and reth and a lot more other forms including rith. Rith, as far as I can tell, is the most common of them and it is the form that is still found in surnames and place names. I heard people say /ɹiːθ/ when they were referring to small, fordable streams, but I do not know how they would spell it though.

Spans
I noticed in your edits and  that you replaced   with. In markup terms, these are functionally equivalent. Is there some flaw in the MW markup parser that doesn't properly handle self-closing tags? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:40, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * In XML, they are equivalent, in HTML, they are not. The  syntax is now deprecated and will soon no longer be supported. See the GP discussion Grease pit/2016/July. --WikiTiki89 18:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh, gawd. Is this one of the changes in HTML 5?  I am very disappointed in the changes in HTML 5 that move away from a common markup framework.  :(
 * Thank you for the brief explanation and the link. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:11, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Apparently no version of HTML ever supported self-closing of non-void tags. --WikiTiki89 19:18, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Reading the linked thread, I realized that my bias was XHTML, and my comment above should have read one of the failures to change in the shift to HTML 5.  HTML 5 continues so much of the horribleness of earlier HTML.  Yet the specification work had the potential of making things saner by incorporating much of what works well with XHTML.  <sigh.../>  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

More Irish pages with invalid self-closing HTML tags
Alba, sioc, Ó DTLHS (talk) 00:57, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Trughanacmy and Ciarraige
Hi. You seem to be knowledgable about Ireland and the Irish language, and are active. Could you please help me with these entries that are derived/borrowed from Irish as well as creating the cognate Irish terms as entries? i.e. Ciarraige and Triúcha an Aicme? Thanks.

(BTW, do you happen to know where Ratass might've come from in Irish?)

Philmonte101 (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
 * http://www.logainm.ie is a good resource for place names in Ireland. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 14:50, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Nortmann
How would Nortmann be a direct borrowing of Norðmaðr into Old Irish? Old Irish had /θ/ and /ð/, so why not Northmann or Nordmann? Tharthan (talk) 14:44, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe via some variety of Old Norse in which /θ/ had already become /t/. On the other hand, I'm not sure Old Irish had /θ/ or /ð/ between /r/ and another consonant, so "Northmann" might have violated OIr. phonotactics even if all the individual phonemes were present. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 14:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Kashmiri
I was using a script to batch upload words, hence they're at the end of the pages. I have been using the Latin script that most people use with some minor modifications since neither the Devanagari or the Perso-Arabic standardised script can be typed on the platform I'm on (Mac), or Windows for that matter. Only some obscure programs for Windows handle the Perso-Arabic for Kashmiri properly. Most people around me use the Latin script to write Kashmiri. I've never come across Devanagari in Kashmiri and barely anyone is aware of the existence of a standardised Devanagari. You might as well think that I am transcribing a language. Haziqmir (talk) 11:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)Haziqmir
 * Can you modify the script to insert Kashmiri in the right place, or do it manually? Otherwise it just creates work for other people to clean up. I don't know anything about Kashmiri myself, all I know is what it says at Wikipedia. One thing it says there is "The Kashmiri Perso-Arabic script has come to be associated with Kashmiri Muslims, while the Kashmiri Devanagari script has come to be associated with the Kashmiri Hindu community", so if you don't know many Kashmiri Hindus it makes sense that you're not familiar with it in Devanagari. When you say "most people around me use the Latin script to write Kashmiri", do you mean just on computers, or do they use the Latin script even when writing by hand? Is the Latin script used in published words like books and newspapers? —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 11:56, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Like I said, there isn't a way to type the PA or Devanagari equivalents without manually copying each character from some Unicode block. People definitely use the Latin alphabet on computers, but most of Kashmiri media is in Urdu and English. However, I have run across poetry written in the Latin alphabet here and there. Haziqmir (talk) 12:09, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
 * OK, as long as there are published works in the Latin alphabet, then including it is fine. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 12:13, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Moor Etymology
@Angr Many thanks for modifying the etymology and especially for sorting the vertical line format which I failed to correct. Regarding the initial sentence, after the rest of it could be deleted, that sorts out the missing term for the PIE root, since this word, as stated in its Discussion Page, is a rare example of a lexeme that was handed down from the Brythonic in the other Germanic dialects also. Andrew H. Gray 09:28, 27 August 2016 (UTC)Werdna Yrneh Yarg

title: User talk:Mahagaja/Archive 11


text:
ужым

Etymology
Directly or perhaps via mediation (compare 🇨🇬), from, from Russian.

Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * winter cereals, grain crops sown in the autumn and harvested next autumn

title: ужым


text:
Talk:มะโรง

I think the first syllable may be the remnant of some prefix, perhaps from some other language. I'm not sure though. It could well be (what's called in Sino-Tibetan linguistics) a prefix run from the other zodiac signs. Wyang (talk) 08:19, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

 * It's true that the word is originated as "โรง". But when it comes with มะเส็ง มะเมีย มะแม, "โรง" then becomes "มะโรง" to rhyme with those words. Nothing special with this "มะ". --Octahedron80 (talk) 09:02, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

 * I see. Thanks! Wyang (talk) 09:26, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:มะโรง


text:
көй

Etymology
From, from.

Cognate with 🇨🇬; 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬/, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, etc.

Pronunciation

 * (one syllable)
 * (one syllable)

Noun

 * 1) melody, tune

Noun

 * 1) melody, tune

title: көй


text:
selkeytyä

Verb

 * 1)  to clear, clear up, clarify to become clearer

title: selkeytyä


text: కాకం

title: కాకం


text: అద్రికాకం

title: అద్రికాకం


text:
పాకము

Noun

 * 1) cooking, dressing food, boiling

title: పాకము


text: పాకం

title: పాకం


text: పికం

title: పికం


text: శాకం

title: శాకం


text:
Talk:systkin

I know this word is etymologically derived from systir + some ending, but what ending is it? Is it Old Norse kyn, as in kind ? Or is it the Old Norse diminutive -kin?

title: Talk:systkin


text: శుకం

title: శుకం


text:
더러워지다

Verb

 * 1) to become dirty, to be stained
 * 2) to become despicable
 * 3) to be tarnished
 * 4) to become unchaste

title: 더러워지다


text: 黃埔

title: 黃埔


text: bavianar

title: bavianar


text: 黄埔

title: 黄埔


text: bavianane

title: bavianane


text:
påtreffe

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to encounter, meet (accidentally), run into, come across
 * 2) * Bavianer fins hovedsakelig i Afrika, men noen kan også påtreffes i Midtøsten.

title: påtreffe


text:
baadali

Verb

 * 1) comb

title: baadali


text: zhuǎnyí

title: zhuǎnyí


text:
baandali

Verb

 * 1) straighten up (tidy)
 * 2) put in order

title: baandali


text: fèi'ái

title: fèi'ái


text:
冰皮

Noun

 * 1) “snow skin” or “ice skin”, referring to the crust of a kind of mooncakes made of glutinous rice flour

title: 冰皮


text:
afschuimen

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to remove foam
 * 2)  to remove impurities (from)
 * 3) * 1853, P. F. Klijnsma, "Het ijzer. Zijne smelting en bewerking", in Algemeen handboek van kunsten en wetenschappen. Nijverheid, vol. 8, in, Volks-bibliotheek, Weijtingh & Brave, 17.
 * "nl"
 * "nl"

- Tusschen de kruin van den dam en het uiteinde der ijzeren plaat, die het onderste gedeelte van het gewelf der werkplaats draagt, bevindt zich het schepgat, waardoor men in den kroes zien, en het noodige werk onder in den oven verrigten kan, zooals het afschuimen van de overtollige vreemde stoffen van het ijzer en het scheppen hiervan met lepels tot het gieten van verschillende voorwerpen in vormen, enz.

 * 1)  to plunder, to rob
 * 2) * 1838, Adriaan van der Hoop, Junior, De Renegaat. Een berymd verhaal, Elix & co., 80-81.
 * "nl"

- On ne se souvient plus des promesses, quand les périls sont passés, zegt het fransche spreekwoord: het was het motto, dat de Algerijnen immer schreven op het teboekstellen hunner verdragen; want by iedere verademing, na eene ontfangene tuchtiging, schuimden die Korsaren den Oceaan roofgieriger af dan ooit.

 * 1)  to rummage, to scour
 * 2) * 2002, Jan Frans Verbruggen & Rolf Falter, 1302: Opstand in Vlaanderen, Lannoo, 121.
 * "nl"
 * 1) * 2002, Jan Frans Verbruggen & Rolf Falter, 1302: Opstand in Vlaanderen, Lannoo, 121.
 * "nl"

- Roofridders schuimden de wegen af om handelaars te plunderen met het motief dat ze voor de andere partij werkten.

title: afschuimen


text:
put the bottom rail on top

Verb

 * 1)  To reverse a hierarchy.

title: put the bottom rail on top


text:
baayali

Verb

 * 1) crack between teeth
 * 2) bite off
 * 3) chop

title: baayali


text:
baaylirrmali

Verb

 * 1) boil

title: baaylirrmali


text:
trữ tình

Etymology
.

Adjective

 * 1) lyric; lyrical

title: trữ tình


text:
한가위

Etymology
From +.

Noun

 * 1) Mid-Autumn Festival

title: 한가위


text: påtreffes

title: påtreffes


text:
Talk:schuimen

There also seems to be a meaning "to roam, to wander" that isn't covered by most references. It can be difficult to tell the difference with the sense "to search, to scour" or the unincluded sense "to rage, to rampage" (see the English quotation from Orlando Figes). Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 10:08, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
 * 2006, Daniel de Wolf, Jezus in de Millinx. Woorden én daden in een Rotterdamse achterstandswijk, KOK, 35.
 * Illegalen, junks, drugsrunners en hoertjes schuimden over de straten.
 * 2012, Lynn Austin, De plantage, tr. by Roelof Posthuma, Voorhoeve.
 * Het was gevaarlijk om naar buiten te gaan, met alle vluchtelingen, zwarten en soldaten van beide partijen die over de wegen schuimden of probeerden naar huis te komen.
 * It was dangerous to go outside with refugees and Negroes and soldiers from both sides wandering the roads, trying to get home. (original English)
 * 2014, Orlando Figes, Revolutionair Rusland 1891-1991. Een geschiedenis, tr. by Toon Dohmen, Nieuw Amsterdam.
 * Duizenden dronken soldaten en arbeiders schuimden door de stad, waar ze winkels plunderden, inbraken pleegden en welgesteld uitziende burgers molesteerden en beroofden.
 * Thousands of drunken workers and soldiers were rampaging through the city looting stores, breaking into houses, and beating up and robbing well dressed citizens. (original English)

title: Talk:schuimen


text:
ovleg

Adverb

 * 1) very, to a high degree

title: ovleg


text:
påtreff

Usage notes
Mainly used as a noun instead.

title: påtreff


text: påtreffer

title: påtreffer


text: påtraff

title: påtraff


text: påtruffet

title: påtruffet


text: Category:Lepontic terms inherited from Proto-Celtic


text: Category:Lepontic inherited terms

title: Category:Lepontic inherited terms


text: Category:Lepontic terms derived from Proto-Celtic


text: Category:Lepontic terms by etymology

title: Category:Lepontic terms by etymology


text: Category:Lepontic terms derived from Celtic languages


text: Category:Lepontic terms derived from Indo-European languages


text: Category:Lepontic terms derived from other languages


text:
salsbu

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) (market) stall, booth, small open-fronted shop

title: salsbu


text: salsbua

title: salsbua


text: salsbuer

title: salsbuer


text: salsbuene

title: salsbuene


text: వృకం

title: వృకం


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/reply (9)

Posted it in the beer parlour. As you admitted there, some characters are not used in Old Italic and some are not used in Lepontic.


text:
పతకము

Noun

 * 1) A medal-like ornament or jewel worn on the breast, suspended from the neck.

title: పతకము


text: పతకం

title: పతకం


text: 中秋饼

title: 中秋饼


text:
mynteining

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) monetary unit, standard currency

title: mynteining


text:
中秋餅

Noun

 * 1)  mooncake

title: 中秋餅


text: mynteininga

title: mynteininga


text:
hakutermi

Noun

 * 1)  search term word or phrase entered into the search box of a webpage

title: hakutermi


text: mynteiningar

title: mynteiningar


text: mynteiningane

title: mynteiningane


text:
Tết Trung thu

Noun

 * 1) Mid-Autumn Festival

title: Tết Trung thu


text:
bánh trung thu

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) mooncake

title: bánh trung thu


text: etende

title: etende


text:
སྟོན་ཀ

Noun

 * 1) autumn

title: སྟོན་ཀ


text:
morgonraude

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) morning red, a red sky in the morning.

title: morgonraude


text:
morgenrøde

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) morning red, a red sky in the morning.

title: morgenrøde


text:
เทศกาล

Etymology
From ; equivalent to. Compare 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1)  occasion; season.
 * 2) carnival; festival.
 * 1) carnival; festival.
 * 1) carnival; festival.

title: เทศกาล


text:
Ríkaldur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Ríkaldur: Ríkaldsson
 * daughter of Ríkaldur: Ríkaldsdóttir

title: Ríkaldur


text:
Ríkin

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Ríkin: Ríkinsson
 * daughter of Ríkin: Ríkinsdóttir

title: Ríkin


text:
Rodleivur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rodleivur: Rodleivsson
 * daughter of Rodleivur: Rodleivsdóttir

title: Rodleivur


text:
کتێب

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) book

title: کتێب


text: morgonrauden

title: morgonrauden


text:
Rodmar

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rodmar: Rodmarsson
 * daughter of Rodmar: Rodmarsdóttir

title: Rodmar


text: morgonraudar

title: morgonraudar


text: morgonraudane

title: morgonraudane


text:
پەرتووک

Etymology
Compare 🇨🇬, of which the papyrus is made.

Noun

 * 1) book

title: پەرتووک


text:
Rodmundur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rodmundur: Rodmundarson or Rodmundsson
 * daughter of Rodmundur: Rodmundardóttir or Rodmundsdóttir

title: Rodmundur


text: morgenrøden

title: morgenrøden


text: morgenrøder

title: morgenrøder


text: torēnā

title: torēnā


text:
Roði

Etymology
From, from , a base meaning "fame," from.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Roði: Roðason
 * daughter of Roði: Roðadóttir

title: Roði


text:
スウェットシャツ

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) sweatshirt

title: スウェットシャツ


text: suwettoshatsu

title: suwettoshatsu


text: morgenrødene

title: morgenrødene


text:
مۆبایل

Noun

 * 1) mobile phone

title: مۆبایل


text:
Róaldur

Etymology
From, , from earlier , from , , from  +. Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, and 🇨🇬.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Róaldur: Róaldsson
 * daughter of Róaldur: Róaldsdóttir

title: Róaldur


text:
Róðbjartur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Róðbjartur: Róðbjartsson
 * daughter of Róðbjartur: Róðbjartsdóttir

title: Róðbjartur


text: morgonrode

title: morgonrode


text:
morgonrøde

Etymology
From.

title: morgonrøde


text:
Róðolvur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Róðolvur: Róðolvsson
 * daughter of Róðolvur: Róðolvsdóttir

title: Róðolvur


text: morgonroden

title: morgonroden


text: morgonrodar

title: morgonrodar


text:
スウェットスーツ

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) sweatsuit

title: スウェットスーツ


text: morgonrodane

title: morgonrodane


text: suwettosūtsu

title: suwettosūtsu


text:
Rókur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rókur: Róksson
 * daughter of Rókur: Róksdóttir

title: Rókur


text: morgonrøden

title: morgonrøden


text:
سەگ

Etymology
From, from , from.

Noun

 * 1) dog

title: سەگ


text:
Róland

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Róland: Rólandsson
 * daughter of Róland: Rólandsdóttir

title: Róland


text: morgonrødar

title: morgonrødar


text:
Rólant

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rólant: Rólantsson
 * daughter of Rólant: Rólantsdóttir

title: Rólant


text: morgonrødane

title: morgonrødane


text:
Rólvur

Etymology
From, from.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rólvur: Rólvsson
 * daughter of Rólvur: Rólvsdóttir

title: Rólvur


text:
Rómundur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rómundur: Rómundarson or Rómundsson
 * daughter of Rómundur: Rómundardóttir or Rómundsdóttir

title: Rómundur


text:
Rósingur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rósingur: Rósingsson
 * daughter of Rósingur: Rósingsdóttir

title: Rósingur


text:
Rubekur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rubek: Rubeksson
 * daughter of Rubek: Rubeksdóttir

title: Rubekur


text:
Rúnolvur

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Rúnolvur: Rúnolvsson
 * daughter of Rúnolvur: Rúnolvsdóttir

title: Rúnolvur


text:
Røgnvaldur

Etymology
From, from.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Røgnvaldur: Røgnvaldsson
 * daughter of Røgnvaldur: Røgnvaldsdóttir

title: Røgnvaldur


text:
maurslukar

Etymology
From. Similar to 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬

Noun

 * 1) anteater, any member of the.

title: maurslukar


text: maurslukaren

title: maurslukaren


text: maurslukarar

title: maurslukarar


text: maurslukarane

title: maurslukarane


text:
Palli

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Palli: Pallason
 * daughter of Palli: Palladóttir

title: Palli


text:
Pátrikur

Etymology
Ultimately, from.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Pátrikur: Pátriksson
 * daughter of Pátrikur: Pátriksdóttir

title: Pátrikur


text:
Poli

Etymology
Short form of.

Usage notes
Patronymics
 * son of Poli: Polason
 * daughter of Poli: Poladóttir

title: Poli


text:
User:Hic hæc hoc

 * $$\int_\gamma f(z) \,dz = F(\gamma(b)) - F(\gamma(a)).$$

title: User:Hic hæc hoc


text:
smeerlap

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  asshole, bastard
 * 2)  dirtbag, pervert
 * 3)  a gross person

title: smeerlap


text:
yellow beet

Noun

 * 1) A yellow variety of beet

Translations

 * Finnish:
 * Swedish: gulbeta

title: yellow beet


text: Thesaurus:rustler

title: Thesaurus:rustler


text:
көндөҙ

Etymology
From.

Cognate with 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬; 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, etc.

Adverb

 * 1) by day, during the day, at daytime

title: көндөҙ


text:
コーデュロイ

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) corduroy

title: コーデュロイ


text: kōdyuroi

title: kōdyuroi


text:
コール天

Etymology
Compound of, the latter an abbreviation of.

Noun

 * 1) corduroy

title: コール天


text:
コールてん

Noun

 * 1)  corduroy

title: コールてん


text: kōruten

title: kōruten


text:
Wiktionary:Votes/2016-09/Definitions — non-lemma

Definitions — non-lemma

 * Note: This follows Votes/pl-2016-08/Definitions — introduction, which edited the first paragraph of WT:EL.

Voting on: Editing the next piece of WT:EL.

Current text:
 * The vote “2006-12/form-of style” is relevant to this section, without specifying text to be amended in this document, so please see it for details.
 * The vote “2010-08/Italicizing use-with-mention” is relevant to this section, without specifying text to be amended in this document, so please see it for details.

Proposed text: Non-gloss definitions are italicized. Non-lemma definitions (plurals, conjugations, superlatives, etc.) are treated and formatted as non-gloss definitions, linking to the lemma form, which is in bold when the linked term is in the Latin script.

 * References

Rationale and notes:
 * The previous text contains two vote links concerning rules that were voted and approved. Specifically, one vote is about italic "form-of" definitions and the other vote is about bold links in "form of" entries. The proposed text states the actual rules.
 * Mentioning non-gloss definitions.

Schedule:
 * Vote starts: 00:00, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Vote ends: 23:59, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Vote created: --Daniel Carrero (talk) 12:26, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Discussion:
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Beer parlour/2016/September
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] User talk:Wikitiki89
 * [[Image:Wikt rei-artur3.svg|20px]] Wiktionary talk:Votes/2016-09/Definitions — non-lemma

Support

 * 1)  --Daniel Carrero (talk) 00:57, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  — Andrew Sheedy (talk) 21:32, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * 3)  – I have no objection to the text that is being added, but I think it would have been better if an description of what non-gloss definitions are had been proposed at the same time. — Eru·tuon 15:22, 21 October 2016 (UTC)

Oppose

 * 1) . My concerns on the talk page were not fully addressed. --WikiTiki89 21:43, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
 * 2)  because it doesn't say what a "non-gloss definition" is. I think I have a vague idea, but the link to [[gloss]] is useless. Either define "non-gloss definition" or link the whole term to a page that explains it. (And yes, I think having the undefined term "non-gloss definition" in the policy is worse than the status quo!) This, that and the other (talk) 09:55, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Abstain

 * 1)  -Xbony2 (talk) 10:58, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

Decision
No consensus: 3-2-1 (60%-40%) --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:34, 29 October 2016 (UTC)


text:
baklap

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  cutlet, schnitzel (without bread crumbs).
 * 2)  loser, jerk, oaf.
 * 1)  loser, jerk, oaf.

title: baklap


text: baklappen

title: baklappen


text: baklapje

title: baklapje


text:
hnúðkál

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) kohlrabi

title: hnúðkál


text:
スパンデックス

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) spandex

title: スパンデックス


text: supandekkusu

title: supandekkusu


text:
Beatia

Proper noun

 * 1) a city of the Oretani in Hispania Tarraconensis, now Baeza

title: Beatia


text:
Talk:semper paratus

semper paratus, semper eadem, semper fidelis
Sum of parts (in Latin). As always, mere examples would suffice. -- Romanophile ♞ (contributions) 03:40, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Motto should not be dictionary entries, if you want to know what they mean, look up the individual words and/or look them up on Wikipedia where of course they belong as they are topics of interest, not idioms. No Dieu et mon droit for example. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:10, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep the first and third: I also dissent from Renard's point that we shouldn't have mottos. Pur ple back pack 89  13:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * It’s not mottoes per se that should be eliminated. It’s phrases that are easily discernible to anybody with a competent command of the language. I don’t think that they merit entire entries, but using them within entries is a good compromise and a good idea (in my view). would probably agree with me on that. -- Romanophile  ♞ (contributions) 14:36, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 * I think keep as well, possibly as English. I have seen the third used plenty of times in English texts in a manner that presumed understanding of the phrase. I am not as familiar with semper eadem, and the Coast Guard is just smaller than the Marines, so its motto gets out less. - TheDaveRoss 14:20, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * This is a delete vote as the English entries aren't being nominated for deletion. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe I am missing something, but when I look at those entries I see only Latin sections. - TheDaveRoss 13:16, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Familiar Latin phrases found in English texts should be included in dictionaries (and usually are). You shouldn't have to be able to parse Latin grammar to figure out what English speakers mean when they use these phrases.  P Aculeius (talk) 14:29, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Like you say, they are in English dictionaries. This is logic for keeping in English, not Latin. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * If we're thinking of creating all attestable ones, I suggest which is ' motto. Renard Migrant (talk) 14:41, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Since we're not including these for lexical reasons, per P Aculeius, do we include them for notability? Do we need WT:NOTABLE to decide which sum of parts phrases are notable enough to be included, or do we just include all mottos in all languages? Do were merely need to show use as a motto for the motto to be included. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:20, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * How about All the News That's Fit to Print? Chuck Entz (talk) 18:59, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 * I honestly have almost no idea what the hell that phrase is supposed to mean. What news is ‘fit’ to print? Rich gringos dying? Gringo children being kidnapped? The crimes that poor people commit to survive? -- Romanophile ♞ (contributions) 21:11, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing you're better educated than most. If you don't know what it means, that probably means most people don't know what it means, which it turn probably means we should have it. Pur ple back pack 89   14:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

 * What a particular newspaper deems to be fit (suitable) to print isn't lexical information, though: you clearly know what the phrase means in the lexical sense, just not which news it would apply to in the real world (which varies by newspaper of course). So not dictionary content. Equinox ◑ 15:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Seems kinda disingenuous to me to have an English definition for a Latin phrase, but not a Latin one. Pur ple back pack 89  14:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I agree. It is odd but it's a way of complying with CFI (and some people care about that). The only argument apparently for including it in Latin is because it's used in other languages which to be honest I find even more odd. A further question for P Aculeius. Is Latin a special case or should we include mottos in other languages other than Latin? What about English ones? Just Do It (Nike) Impossible Is Nothing (Nike or Addidas or something like that). Renard Migrant (talk) 12:00, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 21:01, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Comment: it's absurd to have well-known Latin phrases defined as English, merely because English speakers use them, and not defined as Latin. Moreover, as much of the significance of these phrases is how, why, or by whom they're used; something easily explained in a single sentence, without the need for an encyclopedia entry.  And that you can't get from parsing each word to figure out its function in the phrase.  There's a difference between a well-known phrase that's been widely used for hundreds or even thousands of years, and a corporate advertising slogan that vanishes from popular use within a few years of the ad campaign that created it.  I think that Wiktionary editors wouldn't have too much trouble distinguishing between them.  If you want to create a notability guideline for phrases like this, go ahead, but it'll result in more "keeps", which clearly you're opposed to.  P Aculeius (talk) 12:58, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * There's not a lexical distinction (as you freely admit), it's just which are more 'notable' than others. While it's absurd, surely including a Latin entry only for non-Latin speakers is even more absurd. Imagine an English entry aim only at non-English speakers like Just Do It because non-English speakers may come across it. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:31, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
 * In case anyone cares what WT:CFI says, an I do, believe it or not, this is as straightforward a delete as it gets. But a vote to have CFI trump voting failed, so it literally is just a vote. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

 * Keep -- They are more than mottoes, and should definitely stay. A silly debate. 86.132.37.179 16:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So what are they, then? Renard Migrant (talk) 18:33, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Keep: Any foreign language phrase that is frequently used in documents written in English should be documented in some glossary within the Wikipedia Foundation. If rigid rules prevent them from being documented here, then put them in a separate wiki. Also, having entries for these mottoes document prominent organizations using them is welcome information to find. Fred Holmes

First and third closed as no consensus to delete. It is not entirely clear whether there is a consensus to delete the second. bd2412 T 19:56, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep semper eadem: since it consists only of two words and is a motto of multiple counties and schools per the mainspace entry, it is going to be cool to enter this into wikt and find what it means. Thus, err on the side of usefulness at the risk of redundancy. --Dan Polansky (talk) 10:39, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Keep: other dictionaries have them, listed as foreign terms, with the pronunciation as used in English. That's the key point: a Latin phrase like, say, pro bono or ad lib has a different pronunciation and meaning in English than it might have had in Latin. When I make stuff up, I /ADD_LIB/, I don't /AHD-LEEB/. When I work pro bono, it implies I'm a professional doing normally-paid work for a charity or good cause, not that I'm merely working "for the good". Similarly, these mottos have meaning and probably also pronunciations that go beyond the Latin. They belong in an English dictionary. Eric TF Bat (talk)

Closing as no consensus to delete as to all. bd2412 T 16:29, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:semper paratus


text:
Talk:semper eadem

Deletion discussion
See Talk:semper paratus. Cheers! bd2412 T 12:43, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:semper eadem


text:
Talk:semper fidelis

Deletion discussion
See Talk:semper paratus. Cheers! bd2412 T 12:43, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:semper fidelis


text:
Talk:colored person

colored person
Per Talk:white person. Equinox ◑ 01:20, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * FYI: In Thai, คนผิวสี has roughly meaning of this. There is also คนมีสี that could have been translated into this. But they are not the same meaning. :) --Octahedron80 (talk) 02:31, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

"When I was born, I was black. / When I grow up, I'm black. / When I go in the sun, I'm black. / When I'm cold, I'm black. / When I'm scared, I'm black. / When I'm sick, I'm black. / And when I die, I'm still black. But you white people: / When you're born, you're pink. / When you grow up, you're white. / When you go in the sun, you're red. / When you're cold, you're blue. / When you're scared, you're yellow. / When you're sick, you're green. / And when you die, you're grey... And you're calling me a colored person?"
 * — attributed to a variety of people from several continents

However, polysemy of "colored" doesn't stop this from being SOP. Delete per nom; colored covers this. - -sche (discuss) 06:02, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * The reasons to keep fall under the head . I don't find WP's to foreclose our opportunity to add value in this area. If there were nothing to say about the contexts, dates of prevalence, and meanings of this term to speaker and audience it would not merit inclusion in a lexicon. But there is plenty. Keep DCDuring TALK  10:45, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So add it to colored. Delete. It's a person that's colored and no amount of discussion is going to change that. Renard Migrant (talk) 10:53, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * I will leave it to you to demonstrate how the use of colored in colored people, coloreds, colored person differs (or not), how the combinations of colored and various nouns differ in their referents and frequency regionally and temporally. DCDuring TALK 13:00, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * So just create colored + every noun where it's attested? Surely that makes things worse not better because it divides up the usage notes over several entries instead of one, so it makes understanding the word colored harder, not easier. Is that your intention, to make comprehension more difficult? Renard Migrant (talk) 17:45, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * Colored isn't really a slur; in the early twentieth century it was a polite form of reference, avoiding the negative connotations of "black" and "African", hence the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. Fashions change, which is why once-polite terms like "colored" and "negro" aren't used much anymore, except historically or by people who for one reason or another refuse to say "black" or "African-American".  Some may do so because they find current terms too dignified, but that doesn't make the older words ethnic slurs.

 * The real argument here is that anyone looking up colored person will find colored, which already covers the usage in question. If we include colored person, then we would logically need to include colored man, colored woman, colored boy, colored girl, colored child, colored baby, colored folks, colored doctor, colored nurse, colored driver, colored servant, colored manservant, colored teacher, colored maid, colored singer, colored musician, and on and on and on, all of which use the exact same meaning of the word.  Which, as the nominator points out, we would also want to do with white [whatever], black [whatever], negro [whatever], [whatever] of color, and a host of other terms used to describe ethnicity.  Why do this, if the meaning of the phrase colored [whatever] is reasonably transparent?  A previous debate over the same topic, linked at top, resulted in the rejection of this method for "white".  Why should there be a different result here?  P Aculeius (talk) 14:14, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
 * re: "Colored isn't really a slur". I never said it was. But what is it? It took quite a few sentences to give even a partial explanation.
 * It seems to me that we never undertake to cover this kind of thing very accurately, let alone thoroughly. Our entry for colored has: "Of skin color other than the white; in particular: black." Black was not even linked to the entry [[black]] until I just added the link. Our entry [[black]] has: "Of or relating to any of various ethnic groups having dark pigmentation of the skin. / "(chiefly historical) Designated for use by those ethnic groups which have dark pigmentation of the skin."
 * To omit the generally understood reference to African Americans and to blacks in South Africa is one indication of a reluctance to tackle the issue squarely and completely.
 * Colored person is one of a set of nominals that have been used to label various groups of people. Users may find entries for ''nigger, nigga, negro, black, darkie, African-American, colored, etc as nouns, but not black person, African-American person, colored person]] even though these convey something different, less abusive IMO, that the corresponding bare adjectives used as nouns.
 * We have been increasingly deciding to keep entries of the form [ADJ + NOUN] that combine the most generic noun used with a given highly restricted sense of an adjective. This seems to be an expedient to elicit a more intuitive understanding of the term, of the special meaning of the adjective in such use, and to facilitate comparison of nominal terms-in-use.
 * When we follow the other course and delete such entries, we often don't take the opportunity to enhance the restricted definition of the adjective or noun. IOW we often justify deletion based on it being SoP given ideal definitions of the component terms, while in fact having only abridged-dictionary-level (or worse) definitions of the terms. DCDuring TALK 13:41, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
 * You could have said all that without complaining about all the reading you had to do to get to the part of my comment you felt necessary to criticize as a "partial explanation". But exactly what did you think you were implying when you introduced the subject of Wiktionary's coverage of ethnic slurs into the discussion?  You could just make your point without trying to make other contributors wish they hadn't spoken up.  P Aculeius (talk) 17:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

 * There's no corresponding entry for coloured person. Otherwise I'm neutral about this. DonnanZ (talk) 21:36, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. It's just colored + person. It couldn't be more simple. Philmonte101 (talk) 09:46, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Deleted: I count five clear votes in favour of deletion (Equinox, P Aculeius, Philmonte101, Renard Migrant, -sche) and one against (DCDuring). — SMUconlaw (talk) 16:56, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Should anything be done about ? — SMUconlaw (talk) 17:02, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:colored person


text:
Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (21)

Fixed.

title: Thread:User talk:CodeCat/boa/reply (21)


text:
Varduli

Proper noun

 * 1) A tribe of Hispania Tarraconensis who dwelt westward of the Vascones

title: Varduli


text:
Talk:behave towards

behave towards
Seems as SoP as look towards or sit beside. Equinox ◑ 03:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete per ṅom. DCDuring TALK 05:17, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

 * Delete, transparent SOP. bd2412 T 15:08, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - Sonofcawdrey (talk) 13:04, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not a set phrase just a common verb followed immediately by a common preposition. Renard Migrant (talk) 16:47, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Deleted. bd2412 T 19:39, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

title: Talk:behave towards


text:
kannibal

Noun

 * 1) cannibal

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a cannibal

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) a cannibal

Etymology
..

Noun

 * 1) a cannibal

title: kannibal


text:
Clunia

Etymology
Of origin, from  or, from.

title: Clunia


text:
Turmogidi

Proper noun

 * 1) A tribe of Hispania Tarraconensis

title: Turmogidi


text:
Segisamo

Proper noun

 * 1) A town of the Turmogidi in Hispania Tarraconensis

title: Segisamo


text: Category:Hungarian nouns suffixed with -gráfia


text:
clura

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) An ape

title: clura


text:
Wasserkopf

Etymology
From,.

Noun

 * 1) hydrocephalus
 * 2) * 1810, John Cheyne, Versuch über den akuten Wasserkopf oder die Wassersucht im Gehirn, tr. by Adolph Müller, publ. by Aloys Doll, 1.
 * "de"

- Der akute Wafferkopf *), die Krankheit, welche in den folgenden Seiten der Gegenstand näherer Beleuchtung ist, kommt hauptsächlich in der Kindheit vor.

title: Wasserkopf


text:
-gráfia

Etymology
From.

Suffix

 * 1) -graphy

title: -gráfia


text:
フランネル

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) flannel

title: フランネル


text: furanneru

title: furanneru


text:
ネル

Noun

 * 1) flannel

title: ネル


text:
フラノ

Etymology
From. Possibly shortened from, or derived from the name of a specific type of flannel.

Noun

 * 1) flannel soft cloth woven from wool or other fibers

title: フラノ


text:
มาตรา

Noun

 * , which is

Etymology
From, , , , ; ultimately from. Cognate with 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) system (of units of seize, time, volume, etc).
 * 2)  distinct portion or provision of a law: article, section, etc. Abbreviation:
 * 3)  category assigned to a syllable based on its ending sound:
 * 4) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [k], which is represented by the letter, , , , , or ;
 * 5) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [ŋ], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 6) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [t], which is represented by the letter, , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , , or ;
 * 7) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [n], which is represented by the letter, , , , , or ;
 * 8) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [p], which is represented by the letter, , , , or ;
 * 9) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [m], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 10) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [j], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 11) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [w], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 12) the category  for an open syllable.
 * 1) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [j], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 2) the category  for a syllable ended by the sound [w], which is represented by the letter ;
 * 3) the category  for an open syllable.

Usage notes

 * The term only applies to . As for and international law, the term  is used.

title: มาตรา


text: afsteigan

title: afsteigan


text: kannibaler

title: kannibaler


text:
𐌱𐌹𐌻𐌰𐌹𐍆

Etymology 1
got.

Noun

 * 1) * Gothic Calendar, 29 October:
 * "got"
 * "got"

- 𐌲𐌰𐌼𐌹𐌽𐌸𐌹 𐌼𐌰𐍂𐍅𐍄𐍂𐌴 𐌸𐌹𐌶𐌴 𐌱𐌹 𐍅𐌴𐍂𐌴𐌺𐌰𐌽 𐍀𐌰𐍀𐌰𐌽 𐌾𐌰𐌷 𐌱𐌰𐍄𐍅𐌹𐌽 𐌱𐌹𐌻𐌰𐌹𐍆 𐌰𐌹𐌺𐌺𐌻𐌴𐍃𐌾𐍉𐌽𐍃 𐍆𐌿𐌻𐌻𐌰𐌹𐌶𐍉𐍃 𐌰𐌽𐌰 𐌲𐌿𐍄𐌸𐌹𐌿𐌳𐌰𐌹 𐌲𐌰𐌱𐍂𐌰𐌽𐌽𐌹𐌳𐌰𐌹

title: 𐌱𐌹𐌻𐌰𐌹𐍆


text: bilaif

title: bilaif


text:
alsine

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) A plant, perhaps the chickweed

title: alsine


text: kannibalene

title: kannibalene


text: 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍀

title: 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍀


text:
𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍀𐍃

Etymology
From and cognate to 🇨🇬. Related to.

Noun

 * 1) crown, laurel, wreath

title: 𐍅𐌰𐌹𐍀𐍃


text: kannibalar

title: kannibalar


text:
eriophoros

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) a kind of onion

title: eriophoros


text:
富良野

Etymology
.

Etymology
From. The kanji is.

title: 富良野


text: Category:ja:Cities in Hokkaido

title: Category:ja:Cities in Hokkaido


text: Category:ja:Hokkaido

title: Category:ja:Hokkaido


text: ふらの

title: ふらの


text:
Furano

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Proper noun

 * , located in the southern reaches of Kamikawa Subprefecture.

Translations

 * Japanese: 富良野
 * Marathi: फुरानो

title: Furano


text:
Template:Dasyuridae Hypernyms

 * Theria - subclass; Metatheria - infraclass; Dasyuromorphia - order; Dasyuridae - family

title: Template:Dasyuridae Hypernyms


text:
Template:Dasyuridae Hypernyms/documentation

This is a typing shortcut intended for use under the Hypernyms header of taxa under family Dasyuridae. It can also be used with subst:.


text: kannibalane

title: kannibalane


text:
cisthos

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) a plant of the genus

Descendants

 * Translingual:

title: cisthos