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Talk:Hangul consonant and vowel tables

IPA
I'd like to see more info about how the Hangul corresponds to the IPA, so far I've only found the Roman transcription. 惑乱 分からん 14:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Agreed, I was looking for the same thing (even if there are multiple possibilities). For example, the difference between "j" and "jj" makes little sense without the phonetics. -- Beland (talk) 20:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Ieung
Where is "ieung" name for North Korea? --Octra Bond 09:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Table layout
(Discussion transferred from the Help Desk) Could someone with more knowledge of wiki markup please improve the layout of this article, so that the tables can perhaps fit two next to each other? Inter change  able  18:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm really not quite sure what you're looking to do. I might be able to help, but let's move this discussion to the talk page for the article. MyNameWasTaken (talk) 04:40, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I want to know if the tables can fit two next to each other. At present they are aligned on the left side of the page and don't take up the full width, which makes for an ugly scrolling experience. I'm looking for a layout of 9 rows of 2 tables, plus the one additional table at the bottom. Inter  change  able  15:19, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Archaic Hangul not mentioned
For instance the hangul character ㅿ links to this article, but no information is given here about it. —kess (talk) 17:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

"ㅿ" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect ㅿ. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 28 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:52, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Hangul Day

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I removed the following passage:
 * Some American and German linguists, including late James D. McCawley, celebrate this day yearly to recognise the creation of the Korean alphabet as a linguistic achievement of global significance.

I don't think this is significant enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia. I read. It looks like they just wanted to have a party that was by no means formal. --Nanshu 22:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Original year
Was it 1444 or 1446? Both are mentioned... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.37.29.254 (talk) 14:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Spelling
The title of the article uses "Hangul," but the opening sections use "Hangeul." I understand that there can be variations in the the transliteration of any language, but it should be consistent within the article, or the difference should be explained. [user:PurpleChez|PurpleChez] 10/9/14
 * I agree, the title should be Hangeul Day. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:35, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
 * yes --134.153.8.19 (talk) 17:06, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

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ethnocentric
why is this article listed as "north korea" instead of dprk. north korea is an american coined phrase and i dont think it should be used.

 * In my experience, South Koreans and Russians commonly call it North Korea (Korean Buk Han, Russian Severnaya Koreya). Can you support the claim that it's an "American-coined phrase?" -Reuben 18:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

 * actually, in korean it is "buk han" or "ebuk" in the south, but "buk choseon" is common in the north. as for calling it north korea instead of the DPRK, wikipedia is inconsistent on whether it calls a country by its official title or the commonly used english term. for example, china is one page, but the peoples republic of china has another page. russian federation is simply tossed under russia. Hongkyongnae 22:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I feel that it is substantial to have "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" redirect to "North Korea". Many English users are going to search for it as "North Korea" (at least in the US).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Camoen (talk • contribs) 19:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * There is nothing "democratic" about Korean Buk Han....-> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.214.59 (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL. Yeah. This article doesn't reflect the proper North Korean perspective on North Korea! lol75.201.177.191 (talk) 15:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

 * i guess for the same reason we don't consider russia to have democracy but putinism. there is no "d", nor "p" in dprk 195.91.12.66 (talk) 22:22, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Tree Chopping Incident
Is it listed anywhere about the 1970s tree chopping incident? Three americans were beheaded along the DMZ and it almost caused a war. -Husnock 20:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
 * See Operation Paul Bunyan.

International bailout
The Current situation section says:
 * An international bailout, which may be the best way to bring about a "managed transition" of the DPRK, would only be possible with the co-operation of the U.S.

I can see no reason why this is "only be possible with the co-operation of the U.S.". Why couldn't China or South Korea do that? This article] is relevant, saying:
 * "China’s investments jumped from about a million dollars in 2003 to $200 million last year ... For nearly a decade, the Chinese have counseled North Korea’s leaders to follow their example, gradually opening the economy to market forces.".

I don't see why it needs to be a "bailout", investment alone could bring a gradual transition if the DPRK had the political will.

I'll change this, unless someone can source a justification for the current version. -- Rwendland 20:41, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

--

I feel that the paragraph about North Korea's "Early Years" is not based on factual information, being largely biased. Perhaps this needs to be raised in the interests of integrity. ---

I am not sure what the exact criteria for placing a page in the "disputed" cateogry may be, but i doubt having someone "feel" that a paragraph maybe biased, and then providing absolutely no basis for this "feeling" qualifies. as far as the "paragraph" in question, if it verifiable if you refer to either bruce cumings' works or charles armstrong. perhaps the "feeling" in questions arises since so much of western representation of norht korea is negative that anything that does not attack north korea seems, in context, to be "biased." check virtually any standard of industial progess and urbanization and it is clear that in asia north korea was second only to japan until the 1970s. so, with that being said, i will remove the label to this section. Hongkyongnae 00:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Bruce Cumings is a problematic source, in particular as he seems to be the only source according to the citations. Although it is true that North Korea did quite well in terms of industrial output in comparison the South, industrial output is not the same as standard of living. In fact, if one looks at the standard of living North Korea was always behind the South, see for example Andrei Lankov. 76.117.1.40 (talk) 23:11, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
 * So I checked real GDP per capita at the Penn World Table, for South Korea the earliest data is for 1953, real GDP per capita is $250 in 1953 and steadily increasing since then. The earliest data for North Korea is for 1970, in this year real GDP per capita was $112, steadily increasing since then. This rather suggests that real GDP per capita for North Korea was always well below the South Korean real GDP per capita. 76.117.1.40 (talk) 01:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Bruce Cumings is a world-renowned scholar and the foremost US expert on Korean history. He might be wrong, but he is a suitable source. You are ignoring the fact that South Korea was receiving massive American aid, which is reflected in the GDP.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:32, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I have reinserted information about the North Korean economy with multiple sources. By the way, Cumings cites CIA reports, and Hunter is a CIA analyst.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:41, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Kim Il-Sung
The article doesn't really state what hole Kim Il-Sung pops out of, it just starts to mention him somewhere in the middle with no introduction. Someone should probably fix this?

--Heero Kirashami (talk) 17:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

NPOV: Neutrality dispute
I've tagged this article with a POV dispute because it is largely written like a personal essay, expressing subjective opinion throughout. Some examples are:

"Kim opted for continued ideological purity, inasmuch as he had no understanding at all of market economics."

"All parties and mass organizations were cajoled into the Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland, ostensibly a popular front but in reality dominated by the Communists."

"The latter were especially known for this, as they usually spoke and acted Russian far more than Korean."

"He had always had a personality cult from 1949 onward, and by the 1970s it would reach pseudo-religious dimensions."

"China was also comparatively backwards and could not provide the technical and military assistance Pyongyang sought."

"...relations with the ROK and the United States were bitterly hostile."

"...the personality cult of Kim had assumed grotesque proportions not seen anywhere else in the world."

See what I mean? It's one long personal essay. Some of the statements might be OK if they were attributed to an author or article of notability, which brings me to my next point; I also think the article is severely lacking in references, hence the addition of the ref tag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.54.123 (talk) 02:23, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

 * I agree, the article is horrible as it currently stands. I made some small edits to tone down the personal-opinion-style language and make it sound more encyclopedic, but what we really need is a complete rewrite by an expert on the subject. -- Amerul (talk) 07:26, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

 * This article needs more cites to say the least because the article about Pikachu has 58 cites, as of August 17, 2012, and I gotta catch them all. When I finish my most recent quest, I will return after reading more about the DPRK. I hope to work with User:Fred Bauder, Amerul, and 82.33.54.123 on this. Maybe, we could call in User:DBigXray or User:Homunculus to help. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:20, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Also, ... or user:Dougweller, if that user is avaiable. Geraldshields11 (talk) 16:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately the article remains biased and unsourced.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:58, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Agree with all previous commenters. This article is a horrible, unencyclopedic mess. It probably needs redoing from scratch tbh. 86.30.168.72 (talk) 02:34, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 * It's difficult to approach, I think, because it is so one-sided, but at the same time there is interesting information in there (often unsourced). Perhaps we can cut and paste from related articles, then modify as needed, and retain the interesting parts, but continue to eliminate the bias.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:26, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Having started to add information from books, I am inclining to think the unsourced text should go. It's highly opinionated. It frequently implies that the author has an insight into the thinking of Kim Il-sung and others (which again is an opinion). It seems to give undue weight to the relations between the DPRK and the PRC and the USSR. It contains a number of errors, such as stating the Rangoon bombing occurred on a plane. As this has been tagged for almost five years, it seems reasonable to remove unsourced material, but I will wait until I have finished using the sources that I have before doing anything drastic.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:07, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
 * WELL, THIS ARTICLE NOW HAS 100 CITATIONS. EAT YOUR HEART OUT PIKACHU!!!--Jack Upland (talk) 09:24, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
 * I have taken off the NPOV/Refimprove tag as I believe that most of these issues have been resolved. I have tagged the remaining parts of the article that still require citations.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:47, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

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Degeneration
Since I worked on it over a year ago, the article is degenerating, with slabs of unreferenced and quite opinionated text being added. I have removed this:

 * Kim's eagerness to get rid of the lingering Chinese troop presence in North Korea was partially because he fretted over the influence of certain KPA officers who had served in the Chinese military and had strong pro-Beijing leanings, and he could not easily remove them as long as the Chinese remained in the country. For both countries, it also served a useful political purpose since the US troop presence in South Korea now seemed less justified with the Chinese gone from the North. However, Washington, while welcoming China's withdrawal from North Korea, made no effort whatsoever to remove US troops, stating that they were needed there to preserve the UN peacekeeping effort in Korea and that the eventual political fate of the peninsula should be decided under UN auspices.

It is purely speculative, and is uncited. I think it's reasonable, given that this is contentious topic, and given that there has been an effort to improve the references and neutrality of the article, that any text that's added to the article have references. Also, we shouldn't claim to have insights into the thinking of Kim Il Sung (or anyone else), which was a flaw in the article before. Another problem is the lopsided emphasis on Soviet and Chinese relations with North Korea, which again was a flaw previously. Of course, it's hard to get information about North Korea, but this is an article about North Korea, not about its foreign relations. But the fundamental problem is the lack of any sources for these additions.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

 * I have removed all the text tagged "citation needed", some of which was tagged since 2016 or 2015. There is still some unreferenced text in the latter sections, but this should be easy to find citations for.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:26, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Article restructuring
The article has undergone needed restructuring and reformatting.

The previous structure was written from the perspective of an outsider looking in, with events from how one might view North Korea by only seeing it pop-up in the news. Due to the fact it was written in relation to world events, and not particularly major events within the country, greater emphasis seemed to be placed on elections in South Korea and small missle launches than leadership change, the famine or economic reform.

The majority of the content is good, however, further restructuring needs to be completed, with much new content and linking to extended "main article" Wikipedia articles and further addition of sources needed.

 * I don't really understand this restructuring. Having worked on the previous structure, I don't understand the comment about South Korean elections. I don't see the point of creating subsections with little or no content. Some of the headings you have created don't seem to make sense: "Juche and self-reliance era (1970s - 1994)". Why that era in particular? What is the heading "Developing the whole society on Kimilsungism" supposed to convey? And I don't see the point of having a heading about every party congress if there's nothing much to say.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:14, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

 * I have amended many of these headings, and removed uncited text.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:50, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

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Does this article need to exist? We have Jeolla, after all. I have a hard time seeing how this can extend much beyond a dicdef. -- Visviva 12:47, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Jeolla Province(전라도) is historical administrative division, and Honam(호남 지방) is region. --ㅂㄱㅇ (talk) (ㅂ|Bieup ㄱ|Giyeok ㅇ|Ieung) 09:44, 29 September 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, I am from Korea, but this is strange:

 * The Haerye is Korean national treasure number 432.

Above was introduced in 2003-09-14 edit. I can confirm that there is no such thing as Korean national treasure no. 432. In fact the last number of the national treasure list is currently at 307. (No. 307 was assigned 2004-09-02. I read it on the newspaper.)

Haerye copy is No. 70, as far as I can tell. Current Wikipedia articles on Hunmin Jeongeum copies are seriously confused. There are actually 3 versions we are talking about:

1) Ye-eui copy. (Sample and Signification) 2) Eon-hae copy. (Hangul annotation) 3) Hae-rye copy. (Explanation with examples)

1) is the one recorded in the Annals. 2) is mostly a translation of 1), although there are differences. 3) is much longer, and includes 1) at the beginning.

(By the way, "The Sejong Chronicles" reference is a crap. It is just a part of Annals of Joseon Dynasty.)

There are 4 copies of 2). There are only 1 copy of 3).

-- Anon

 * Dear Anon from Korea, since it is so "strange", then please be bold and simply improve/correct this "crap". Wiki means those "seriously confused" articles gets corrected. Your insights will be appreciated more that way. --Menchi 21:30, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Different image?
I think Image:Hunmin jeong-eum.jpg is obviously
 * not
 * "Hunmin Jeongeum Haerye"
 * (訓民正音解例 or 解例本;, )

 * but
 * "Hunmin Jeongeum Eonhae"
 * (訓民正音諺解 or 諺解本; ; 훈민정음 언해, 훈민정음언해)

mainly because of its hangulfulness. :) Mulukhiyya (talk) 11:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * You're absolutely right. --Kjoonlee 23:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

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I've put up the new logo, but I'm not sure if I've got the tags right. If anyone can help me understand how to do this correctly, it would be apprciated! jke (talk) 00:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

I think there should be a separate page for Hwacheon Dam, due to the extensive military history surrounding it. jke (talk) 12:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

A source is needed for the estimated number of military personnel in the area. The exact number is confidential, but most people in the area commonly quote a number from 30,000 to 35,000. I'm not sure where to verify this or how to accurately estimate it using anything more reliable than local 'common knowledge'. jke (talk) 13:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Is Hwacheon entirely north of the 38th parallel north? I haven't found a detailed political map with latitudes shown. jke (talk) 02:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

To Do
Photos of: samgyeopsal, the mountains, sancheoneo trout, otter.

Sources for: economy, dragon festival (others?), native species (sancheoneo and mountain otter).

Feel free to edit this list directly to add more ideas until we have the core layout basically established. jke (talk) 13:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

1953-4 photos
I have photos posted on Facebook that may interest you. Please fell free to use them

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Spelling of Hwaom
Is anyone on Wikipedia aware that RR's rendering of the underlying pure vowel in 엄 (taken directly from the defunct and ridiculed MRE system) was a historical mistake based on an erroneous assumption about the French spelling of 서울 as se-oul (which Koreans incorrectly assumed was seo-ul)? (reported in an academic journal edited by David McCann). I will have to get the contents of that article and post in on Wikipedia; it seems that many of the egregious shortcomings of RR have never been discussed. Even so, the ambiguity that results from keeping this MOE/RR mistake is simply unacceptable in this case. The reader doesn't know whether "hwaeom" is "hwa-eom" or "hwae-om." Of course an educated reader familiar with international spellings would naturally conclude that the pronunciation should be "hwa-e-om!" - Do c  t  or  W  06:07, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * As long as we're using RR, we don't have much choice about "eo."  However, you do have a point about ambiguity.  How about moving the page to "Hwa-eom"? -- Visviva 07:11, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Your solution is that of the old South Korean Ministry of Education (MOE) system, on which the RR system is based, a system that was universally reviled among academics, and which has been empirically shown to be cumbersome and misleading. Why does a very small number of uninformed people on Wikipedia agreeing by majority vote on something make others here act like it is cast in stone, as though the use of McR is equivalent to a mathematical error? Has anyone here noticed that virtually no publishers not under pressure from the Korean government have embraced RR? It's a bad system! Wikipedia uses both RR and McR anyway, and should certainly use McR in this case, and if those involved were familiar with the issues, they would use McR (without the superscripts), like everyone else. - Do c  t  or  W  07:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm... well, now I'm not sure what you're saying. Is it a) there is something particularly wrong with rendering 화엄 as Hwaeom, which does not apply to other Wikipedia articles ... or b) the default use of RR for all non-North-Korean articles, currently stipulated by Naming conventions (Korean), is foolish and wrongheaded?
 * If a), please clarify; I don't actually see how RR leads to any more problems here than it does in any digraphic context. Some users, like the American general in Welcome to Dongmakgol, may pronounce Gangneung as "Gang-knee-ung" and Hwaeom as "Hwa-E-om" ... but those users are likely to be confused by any systematic romanization.  If b), please take the discussion to Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Korean).  The last time this issue was raised, there appeared to be a consensus in favor of the status quo, if only because RR is vastly more straightforward than MR.  But as you say, perhaps we were simply uninformed; if so, please share your information with us  on that page, so that we can make Wikipedia better.
 * Absent either a change in the naming conventions or an explanation of why Hwaeom should be excepted from them, I find the move of this article very difficult to support. While the previous name could be read as 홰옴 (hwae-om), MR and RR seem to agree that the current name can only be read as 화옴 (hwa-om).-- Visviva 14:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

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Hwanin = Indra = Sakra = 帝释天= 玉皇大帝
Hwanin is 帝释天 (in chinese) ,Sakra-devanam-Indra (in Sankrit)

Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra

"In China, Korea, and Japan, he (indra) is known by the characters 帝释天 (Chinese: 釋提桓因, pinyin: shì dī huán yīn, Japanese: "Tai-shaku-ten", kanji: 帝釈天). In Japan, Indra always appears opposite Brahma (梵天, Japanese: "Bonten") in Buddhist art. Brahma and Indra are revered together as protectors of the historical Buddha (释迦, Japanese: "Shaka", kanji: 釈迦), and are frequently shown giving Shaka his first bath. Although Indra is often depicted like a bodhisattva in the Far East, typically in Tang dynasty costume, his iconography also includes a martial aspect, wielding a thunderbolt from atop his elephant mount.

Some Buddhists regard the Taoist Jade Emperor as another interpretation of Indra."

also known as "Sakra"

"In East Asian traditions, Śakra is known as Dìshìtiān (帝釋天) or Shìtí Huányīn (釋提桓因) in Chinese, and also as Taishakuten (帝釈天) in Japan. In China, Śakra is sometimes compared to the Taoist Jade Emperor (Yùhuáng dàdì 玉皇大帝 often simplified in Yùhuáng 玉皇); both share a birthday on the ninth day of the first lunar month of the Chinese calendar (usually in February)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%9Aakra_(Buddhism) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.129.18 (talk) 02:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

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from Here
How about Hwarang Segi?

 * It is thought ordinarily as a forgery among Korean scholars. But a few scholars including Professor Yi Yung Hoon of Seoul National University department of economics is against it, and Korean News Paper reported about his claim:

 * Korean page
 * Machine translation by worldlingo (Hwarang Segi is translated as "anger Rang century")

 * If translation does not appeared, please use Worldlingo.
 * Please remember it is not my word but a report from Korean major news paper.--Kadzuwo 08:20, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've added that information to the article. I wish we had more information on the actual scholarly debate, and the reasoning behind each position. Anyway, thanks for shedding some light on this. -- Visviva 09:48, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

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AMS

AMS or Ams may refer to:

Companies

 * Alenia Marconi Systems
 * American Management Systems
 * AMS (Advanced Music Systems)
 * ams AG, semiconductor manufacturer
 * AMS Pictures
 * Auxiliary Medical Services

Educational institutions

 * Arthur Morgan School, North Carolina, US
 * Hanoi – Amsterdam High School, Hanoi, Vietnam
 * Army Medical School, US
 * Academy of Military Science (People's Republic of China)
 * Academy of Military Science (United States)
 * Association of Muslim Schools, global
 * Antwerp Management School

Government agencies

 * Agricultural Marketing Service, US
 * Army Map Service, US, later National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency
 * Army Medical Services, UK

Societies and associations

 * Alma Mater Society of Queen's University, student society, Canada
 * Alma Mater Society of the University of British Columbia, student society, Canada
 * American Mathematical Society
 * American Meteor Society
 * American Meteorological Society
 * American Montessori Society
 * American Musicological Society
 * The Ancient Monuments Society, England and Wales
 * Association of Muslim Scholars

Other

 * Aboriginal Medical Service, an Indigenous Australian community-controlled health service in Sydney

Chemical substances

 * Sodium 2-anthraquinonesulfonate known as AMS
 * Ammonium sulfate, sometimes abbreviated as AMS
 * Allyl methyl sulfide
 * Alpha-methylstyrene, a chemical intermediate
 * Ammonium sulfamate, an herbicide

Chemistry and physics

 * Accelerator mass spectrometry
 * AMS radiocarbon dating
 * Aerosol mass spectrometry
 * Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer, AMS-02
 * Anisotropy of magnetic susceptibility

Medicine

 * Acute mountain sickness, a form of altitude sickness
 * Altered Mental Status, see Altered level of consciousness
 * Antimicrobial stewardship
 * Ablepharon macrostomia syndrome, an autosomal dominant genetic disorder

Software

 * Address Management System of the US Postal Service
 * Access Method Services
 * Application Maintenance Support (see Software Maintenance)
 * Association Management System

Technology

 * Analog and mixed-signal, as in Verilog-AMS and VHDL-AMS
 * Anti Missile Systems in missile defense
 * Automatic milking systems in dairy farming

Other uses

 * Acquisition Management System issued by the US Federal Aviation Administration
 * Additional Member System of voting
 * Alan Michael Sugar, British businessman, uses initials for enterprises such as Amstrad
 * American Samoa, UNDP code
 * AMS, group of characters in The House of the Dead (series)
 * Amsterdam (Amtrak station) in New York (Amtrak station code)
 * Amsterdam Airport Schiphol (IATA airport code)
 * Arbeitsmarktservice, Austrian employment agency
 * Atlanta Motor Speedway
 * Auto, Motor und Sport, a German automobile magazine
 * A US Navy hull classification symbol: Ocean minesweeper (AMS)

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Talk:ISO 3166-2:KR

you shoud redirect to Korea.

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Compendium

A compendium (: compendia or compendiums) is a comprehensive collection of information and analysis pertaining to a body of knowledge. A compendium may concisely summarize a larger work. In most cases, the body of knowledge will concern a specific field of human interest or endeavour (for example: hydrogeology, logology, ichthyology, phytosociology or myrmecology), while a general encyclopedia can be referred to as a compendium of all human knowledge.

The word compendium arrives from the Latin word compeneri, meaning "to weigh together or balance". The 21st century has seen the rise of democratized, online compendia in various fields.

Meaning, etymology and definitions
The Latin prefix 'con-' is used in compound words to suggest, 'a being or bringing together of many objects' and also suggests striving for completeness with perfection. And compenso means balance, poise, weigh, offset.

The entry on the word 'compendious' in the Online Etymology Dictionary says "concise, abridged but comprehensive", "concise compilation comprising the general principles or leading points of a longer 'system or work. Its etymology comes from a Medieval Latin use (com+pendere), literally meaning to weigh together.

Examples
A field guide is a compendium of species found within a geographic area, or within a taxon of natural occurrence such as animals, plants, rocks and minerals, or stars. Bestiaries were medieval compendiums that catalogued animals and facts about natural history, and were particularly popular in England and France around the 12th century.

A cookbook is a compendium of recipes within a given food culture.

An example would be the Catechism of the Catholic Church, a concise 598-question-and-answer book which summarises the teachings of the Catholic Church.

Most nations have compendiums or compilations of law meant to be comprehensive for use by their judiciary; for example, the 613 commandments, or the United States Code.

The collected works of Aristotle is a compendium of natural philosophy, metaphysics, language arts, and social science.

The single volume Propædia is Encyclopædia Britannica's compendium of the many volumes of its Macropaedia.

The Bible is a group of many writings of the law, prophets, and writings of the Hebrew Bible held to be comprehensive and complete within Judaism and called the Old Testament by Christianity.

Some well known literary figures have written their own compendium. An example would be Alexandre Dumas, author of The Three Musketeers, and a gourmand. His compendium on food titled From Absinthe to Zest serves as an alphabet for food lovers.

In popular culture
"Compendium" appears as a Latin pun in the English translation of the Franco-Belgian comics The Adventures of Asterix, where it is the name of one of the four Roman military camps surrounding the Gaulish village where the protagonists reside.

Compendium Records was the name of a record store and label, which operated in Oslo, Norway, between 1974 and 1977.

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Past tense
“Jeolla was located in …” – what? Isn't it there anymore?

Except for the Culture section near the bottom, this article uses the past. I think most people say “전라도” instead of “호남” or even “서남부 지방” when they talk about this area (not as an administrative entity), and this article should reflect that usage. The same problem perhaps affects similar articles.

Uninformed people who follow a link in, for example, the People's Republic of Korea article will be surprised to learn that its units were active in a province of the Joseon dynasty. If you insist that 전라도 is a thing of the past, we'd have to change a few links from Jeolla to Honam to avoid anachronisms, although I think we should go with the term people use. Wikipeditor 01:00, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Wave of Ilbe-style vandalism in several South Korea-related pages
In the last few days there have been several articles vandalized with claims that Jeolla and Gwangju are pro-North and that pro-democracy protestors were traitors to South Korea. This is in line with typical trolling from Ilbe, which is like the Korean 4chan. Please revert any changes like this, and be extremely cautious of any claims of "pro-North" activity or "rioting" in South Korea. Kondratev (talk) 12:00, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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Racist attitudes against this region
Could the racist attitudes against this region from South Koreans be mentioned/explained in the article?--Adûnâi (talk) 17:26, 17 February 2019 (UTC)

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Talk:Jeonju

Map is inadequate
The map doesn't indicate where in Korea it is. Kdammers 04:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

I tried to insert a link to a facebook group about Jeonju. This was removed by your bot. I understand your rules about links. So please tell me why you have allowed this link: The Jeonju Hub - a community site for English speaking residents (mostly ESL teachers) That is a website controlled by a private individual showing information about Jeonju, with ads etc etc. My link is a simple facebook group allowing people in Jeonju and Jeollabuk-do to communicate with each other. If you remove my link, then logically that must also be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwjkr (talk • contribs) 01:57, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply
With all due respect, The Jeonju Hub provides information ABOUT Jeonju. It is a principal English source for such information. Why whine and apply to REDUCE available info (attack the Hub) because your Facebook group was denied? LOGICALLY, you should leave the Hub out of your complaint. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thejeonjuhub (talk • contribs) 13:04, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Both links are inappropriate. Facebook groups are not encyclopedic (WP:EL), and the Hub link is clearly being placed in breach of WP:COI. Thanks,  Dei z  talk 22:45, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Jinhae-gu

the name change
Someone should put in the article when and why the name of the city was changed from Chinhae to Jinhae.--Rockfang (talk) 12:19, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

 * The name changed when the Korean government introduced Revised Romanization system in 2000 (see Revised Romanization of Korean). Its Hangul name, 진해, remains unchanged. The same thing happened to Pusan or Taegu, which became Busan and Daegu respectively.--Bin2k1 (talk) 04:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Chemical plant.
The chemical plant is said to be on the 'far' end of the city. What end is this? It depends where you're looking from. Say East or West. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.193.69.218 (talk) 23:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I removed. Because it is not germane to the general topic of Jinhae. Nxo (talk) 23:48, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Cherry Blossom Festival
I have added some text about the festival here on the Jinhae page because it is known throughout Korea as the Jinhae festival and people will look for it there and not under Changwon city, where there is a brief mention of it. Alternatively it is arguably important enough to merit its own page, since it has over a million visitors a year. Minnowonsay (talk) 17:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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heads up. there's a new cryptocurrency scam bearing the name joseon, claiming to be a digital state accepted into UN. they are pushing a token JSM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.80.16.73 (talk) 12:57, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Korean Bias
The claim that Old Chosun was founded in 2300 BCE needs to be supported. It has no archeological evidence and little textual evidence to back up that claim. So far, Old Chosun is only a legend and nothing more.

Intranetusa 01:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't this article get a disambiguation tag? gK [[User talk:GK|¿?]] 13:33, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Or be expanded into an article? Also, shouldn't the Chinese and Japanese names be moved from the text to the name table? — I thought that was the whole point of name tables. Kokiri 09:34, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

The case of the vanishing content
This article has lost an impressive amount of content over the past few months -- all of the discussion of the meaning of the name, also the name table. I could dig it all back out of the history, but perhaps there is a reason that it was removed? -- Visviva 12:52, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

 * i think this page essentially works as a disambiguation page, with etymological discussion belonging in Names of Korea. if i deleted something useful, it was probably unintentionally lost in the transition to Names of Korea, so feel free to add there. Appleby 15:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Inclusion of North Korea on disambiguation
I included North Korea in the list - separate from Korea as a whole - because the DPRK still refers to itself AS Joseon, not just "Korea". The name - 조선민주주의인민공화국 - is made of four Korean words - 조선 (Joseon) 민주주의 (Democracy) 인민 (People) 공화국 (Republic). South Korea prefers to refer to Korea as 한국 ("Hangook", literally translates as "one nation"), so it's important to note the difference between the two. 160.133.1.228 (talk) 20:45, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

title: Talk:Joseon (disambiguation)


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Talk:Ju Si-gyeong

상호
Naver says "별칭: 초명 상호". I gather this is different from a 자? If somebody knows more about this, please correct the article accordingly. Thanks, Wikipeditor 19:47, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

title: Talk:Ju Si-gyeong


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Talk:Juche

Original research in the section "Comparisons to religion"?
The section "Comparisons to religion" (formerly known as "Religious features of Juche") appears to be premised on an original argument synthesised from various sources. Whoever added this section split it into three subsections: "Presence of a sacred leader", "Rituals", and "Familism". The original wording of the introductory paragraph for this section was as follows (appropriate revision linked here):

The sentence that explains the nomenclature of the three subsections (i.e. the long second sentence in the paragraph) cites page 192 of the Historical Dictionary of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea by James Hoare. However, Hoare does not mention any of these three elements. The full text of the page is as follows:

In fact, everything in the second sentence cannot be verified by the source given; Hoare does not mention anything about the influence of East Asian religions on Juche, nor studies which view it as a "national and indigenous religious movement" (emphasis mine). The only sentence that even references comparisons of Juche to religion is the last one: "To many outsiders, juche [sic] seems more like a religious movement than a political philosophy, and it has been examined in this sense in a number of academic studies." Although this could be used to verify a reworded version of the first sentence, this is not necessary because it is a topic sentence and I gave specific examples from the Jung source ("Jucheism as an Apotheosis of the Family: The Case of the Arirang Festival" by Hyang Jin Jung) in my later edits.

Thus, the second sentence is in fact unsourced, along with the third and fourth sentences. The citations for the fifth and last sentence are also deceptively placed; they only speak to North Korea being an atheist state, but nothing to the second part of the sentence, i.e. "...but some argue (weasel words) that it maintains a cult of personality identical to a religion." For these reasons, I have reworded the first and second sentences and removed the latter three. However, I did not remove the part about the features being "the presence of a sacred leader, rituals, and familism" because it is the premise of the entire section. Instead, I have added a tag to it.

The way this section is worded, however, makes me suspect that it is an original argument made by an editor's interpretation of multiple sources. Each subsection is a collection of various facts and arguments supporting an overarching thesis, specifically that the namesake of the subsection is an element of Juche. None of the authors cited actually groups these three elements in particular when making their comparisons of Juche to religion. I think this section would benefit from a modified explanation of its premise. For example, rather than definitively saying these three elements make Juche a religion (an assertion which none of the authors cited make), the introductory paragraph should say that scholars often point to these three elements when comparing Juche to religion(s).

As I continue to make edits to this article, this will hopefully serve to explain some of my edits to the "Comparisons to religion" section in particular. Yue 🌙 05:30, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Sounds like it's headed in the right direction.--Jack Upland (talk) 06:41, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

The content of this article
It dawned on me recently that some of the section headings in this article are misleading. Notably, you will never see official works on Juche (nor scholars) describe Kimilsungism–Kimjongilism, "Socialism of Our Style", "Great Leader theory", and Songun as concepts within Juche. Rather, they are concepts that scholars of Korean studies connect to Juche. Thus, a more accurate heading for this section would be "Related concepts".

But if the "Concepts" section does not actually touch on any of the concepts of Juche, are they explained elsewhere in the article? The answer is not really; basic principles like an emphasis on "self-reliance" and "man as the center of everything" are mentioned in passing to compliment a greater point. Most of the article features scholarly arguments, criticisms, and interpretations pertaining to Juche (or it is not even about Juche but North Korean politics in general; this is particularly egregious in the "Analysis and reception" section). By contrast, the Korean article (주체사상) has a massive section (사상 이론) which gives a comprehensive summary of the philosophical tenets of Juche. It is really easy to lead readers to a certain conclusion if one includes critiques that Juche is not an ideology and/or simply nonsense used to justify the WPK's rule, but omits any information on what Juche actually claims.

I hope other editors will help me remedy this issue by adding more content explaining what Juche is, or at least, what its proponents claim it to be. In my opinion, "Ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea" would be a more appropriate title for the current version of this article, as it barely touches on Juche beyond using it to posit other points. Yue 🌙 07:20, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Interesting comment. It might be hard to fix for editors without Korea.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:33, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

How should Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism be treated
Should it be its own article, should we rename this article into Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism or should the article remain as it is? Asking this because the article lead has no mention of the ideology, despite it being central to Juche messaging under Kim Jong-un, if I understand correctly? @Yue thoughts (hope didn't ping you too many times haha)? Since you happen to be the one editing this article a lot The Account 2 (talk) 15:41, 14 August 2022 (UTC) EDIT: I've seen your proposal to change this article to the Ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea above. Editing Chinese articles, it dawned to me that we can follow the Chinese example; that is articles for the WPK ideology, articles for the Juche and Songun concepts, and an article for Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism (similar to how we have the Ideology of the Chinese Communist Party, Socialism with Chinese characteristics, and various subbranches of SWCC like Deng Xiaoping Theory). What do you think? The Account 2 (talk) 19:29, 14 August 2022 (UTC)

 * Creating a new article for Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism all depends on coverage. I would make the article myself if I had the time to find, read, and paraphrase sources covering Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism. In my opinion, the sections under "Related concepts" should be moved to an article titled "Ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea". The reason why they're in this article is because the previous editors of this article, rather unsurprisingly, cited Western scholars since they're the ones writing or translating publications into English.
 * Most Western scholars on Korean history and political science that I've come across often argue that Juche is not really an ideology and just a amalgamation of various random ideas of Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il. Of course Korean sources (particularly from the DPRK / North Korea) would disagree, and official publications by the DPRK go in-depth as to what Juche is, and reading them would make it clear that Juche is making specific philosophical assertions and isn't just an umbrella term for whatever Kim Il-sung and Kim Jong-il thought. Even if you machine translate the Korean Wikipedia article, the contrast in content should be obvious. Yue 🌙 03:50, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Ok I created an article about WPK Ideology and also Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism (apparently there is indeed some degree of independent coverage). I also included in the Kimilsungism-Kimjongilism page that this ideology now encapsulates the Juche and Songun ideologies. I hope I didn't mess them up! If they're not done well, tell me so I can try to fix them (or at the worst case scenario, merge them again). The Account 2 (talk) 10:59, 15 August 2022 (UTC) Well that ended up well. The Account 2 (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * At least you were bold and gave it a shot. I should have been more clear that, although I strongly believe that the "Related concepts" section should be split into a new article titled Ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea, I or someone else has to bring in new (or reevaluate existing) sources and significantly revise the subsections so that the content and wording is closer to that of Ideology of the Chinese Communist Party. When I have the time in the coming days, I will give this a shot in my sandbox.
 * In the meantime, I invite other editors to share their thoughts, as this should not be a decision made by two editors. However, I think that feedback would be more informed once a working draft is in process or mostly complete. Yue 🌙 18:32, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

Intro
Hi again! Will it be acceptable to change the first sentence from the intro "[...] is the state ideology of North Korea." to "[...] is the state ideology of North Korea and the official ideology of the Workers' Party of Korea." or something similar, you get the idea. Ентусиастъ/Entusiast (talk) 11:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

 * That is a great suggestion. I always thought it was weird that the WPK was not mentioned in the lead. Next time you can just be bold and make the edit yourself. If I have a disagreement with your edit, I will voice it then, so do not worry about preemptively starting a discussion for your ideas. Yue 🌙 20:11, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

"Great Leader" unsupported by source, posted by blocked user
I'm reading the section on "Great Leader", it came from this edit. I'm checking the sources and none (so far) say "Great Leader". If other editors disagree with my changes, can they please ping me with a source that states "Great Leader". Thanks. Stix1776 (talk) 14:01, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Juche is not synonymous with the ideology of the WPK or DPRK
But some of the earlier works cited prominently in this article, like those of Charles Armstrong, treat them as such. The works of Brian R. Myers and those citing Myers, which have been referenced heavily in this article, make the distinction between Juche and the ideology of the WPK / DPRK. They are giving their own opinions on what they believe the ideology of the DPRK is in actuality. They are not claiming that Juche itself is fascism, because, as anyone who reads Juche literature would tell you, it is not fascistic. If an author critiques police brutality and authoritarian tendencies in the United States as akin to a fascist state, then we wouldn't be citing that critique as the basis for calling liberal democracy a fascist ideology. Yue 🌙 18:18, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:Jungang line

Cheongnyangni - Bujeon in 1 h 6 min???
"And KTX-Eum is expect to connect Cheongnyangni and Bujeon in 1 hour and 6 minutes."

This is extremely unlikely - let's be blunt here, it is not possible. The distance Cheongnyangni - Bujeon is more than 450 km. The cited source says the anticipated travel time is 3 h 6 min. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:A1F0:BD0:1B9:8FE6:E44D:3508 (talk) 18:31, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Kaesong

Romanization
"kaesong," of course, should be mr, but i thought for korean topics like goryeo, we used rr. & for gyeonggi, a south korean province? in other words, the rr/mr determination, i thought, was made for each term, rather than by article topic, to avoid the same term being romanized differently in different articles withint wikipedia. e.g. "pyongyang" & "choson" (meaning north korea) would be used even in korea and south korea related articles. Appleby 23:20, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

i see the mos is unclear on this specific issue. was it really decided that the same term would be spelled different ways in different articles? that doesn't really make sense to me. Appleby 23:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
 * "The preference is to use Revised Romanization for South Korean articles and for general articles on Korean history, culture, etc., and to use McCune-Reischauer for North Korean topics"
 * "Korean words transliterated into English should use the Revised Romanization, unless they are used in specifically North Korean context"

 * I was thinking that the rump North Korean province should be named as a North Korean province, but it seems that the remnants of the North Korean "Kyonggi" were actually merged into Hwanghaebuk-do. oops. Sorry for the mixup.-- Visviva 00:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

but what about in the article body, joseon dynasty, yi seonggye, goryeo, gyeonggi, ganghwa. are these korean topics to be in rr? we can use rr for korea/south korean terms & mr for north korean terms, but whatever spelling is chosen, shouldn't we use the same spelling for the same term throughout wikipedia? i thought this was already the practice. Appleby 00:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Side of the line
Shouldn't this sentence read "Kaesong was on the northern side of the line" instead of - - Kaesong was on the southern side of the line (within the Republic of Korea). Thus Kaesong is the only city to change control after the Korean War.[2] 1ragincajun (talk) 00:36, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

No airport
Kaesong has no airport as mentioned in the Transportaion section. I will remove it unless proof can be provided, bet there does not seem to be any. — Preceding unsigned comment added by N40798 (talk • contribs) 09:13, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Gaegyeong
The assertion (History, paragraph 2) about Gaegyeong (개경) is not clearly stated. One can understand that Kaesŏng (개성) was renamed Gaegyeong in 960 and thereafter renamed Gaesong-bu in 995. One can understand that Gaesong-bu was the name of a bigger entity created in 995, while the former city remains called Gaegyeong, etc.

It is usually stated --as in this article-- that "Yi Songgye moved the Korean capital from Kaesŏng to Hanyang (modern-day Seoul) in 1394". Can we infer that Gaegyeong was an obsolete name in 1394 ?

In any case, it would be great to provide the hangul form of all the names used in this article, since the article is mixing the two kinds of romanizations. Pldx1 (talk) 16:51, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

 * Indeed, it would be great. Pldx1 (talk) 12:58, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

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Pure In Heart/Pure 19
I think this is the same show, but which year did it start? 2005, or 2006? CanbekEsen 15:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Took out the "KBS redirects here." thing, since it doesn't redirect to this page anymore and leads to a disambiguation page. 82.41.66.173 08:51, 2 January 2007 (UTC)DanZieBoy

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Introduction Section : Irrelevance?
The introduction section to the article is mainly explaining about other major TV networks in Korea. Seems irrelevant. How about rewriting the section? --Hongmt (talk) 17:03, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Scandals and phrasing
The scandals sections is way too much blown out of proportion. This is an encyclopedia article, and not a yellow press magazine... Also the language is like that of a magazine, phrases like " hooked up" are no appropriate for an encyclopedia. Way too much irrelevant quotes from celebrities that add nothing to the subject of the article. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  15:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

 * Since nobody commented for almost a year, I trimmed the section down. The article should not be a collection of every incident that ever happened at KBS. Major ones have a place, discussed briefly, as Wikipedia is NOT a news platform! Individual issues with movies, songs and television series should be discussed in the respective articles of those, and not here. A lot of the claims are extremely biased and without proper sourcing. Teemeah 편지 (letter)  12:31, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View issue with broadcasting articles.
Hi,

I've noticed that the Broadcasting Station articles (like KBS in this case) has many controversial events written, which is mostly un-neutral (written in a way that goes against the broadcasting station itself in most cases). Also, some of the details (like Cheating on Charts, being unfair to BIGBANG, etc.) should be omitted altogether as it does not belong on an Encyclopedia. Please explain why these "Controversies" are needed in the article.

Thanks.

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