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Talk:Copy editing

Copyedit vs copy-edit vs copy edit
Some sources use copyediting/copyeditor as one word, in which case hyphens are never appropriate. Others (e.g., Merriam Webster) specify that it's 2 words, in which case hyphens are appropriate only when the phrase modifies another word (in other words, standard hyphenation strategy--as in, copy-editing process). I don't know of any source that specifies copy-edit as a hyphenated phrase on its own. (I'm saying all this because I'm about to go in and remove most of the hyphens, including moving the page again since "copyediting" apparently was disliked ;-). ) Elf 16:51, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Me again. Argh, I started with paper references, but occurred to me afterwards to see what various online references have to say.

 * Merriam-Webster online has copyedit the verb as one word but copy editor the noun as two.
 * Encarta online has copyedit the verb as one word and copy editor or copyeditor both as  valid spellings
 * Dictionary.com has the verb as one word and the noun as two

So I'm back to believing that the original entry, copyediting was the most common form; an entry for copy editor likewise would reflect the most common form.

So now before moving things around again, let's see whether I can rouse opinions on where this really belongs; please indicate your preference:

 * 1) Under copyediting
 * 2) Under copy editor
 * 3) Under something else (please state sources/reasons)

Thanks! I'll go away for a while now. Elf 17:17, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I think you are right. I chosed two words because English almost always use as short words as possible then I looked in the dictonary and it said "copyediting". BL 23:33, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

Definitely copy-editing, with a hyphen! Perhaps this a UK bias, but it's very definitely the standard way to spell it over here. The standard textbook on the subject, by Judith Butcher, is called Copy-Editing. If you really must delete the hyphen or (worst of all - very ignorant) insert a space, let's at least have a REDIRECT page! --Hugh2414 08:54, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I have to go with "copyediting", since I believe this is the most common way of writing it. If it's going to be moved anywhere, Hugh, of course there will be redirect pages :) Dysprosia 09:00, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

OK, I give up! Do I now have to rewrite my CV to describe myself as a professional copyeditor? I'll get back to yediting some cop! --Hugh2414 09:02, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * You'd hate German... or any agglutinative language... ;) Dysprosia 09:07, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No - very keen on German and Scandinavian languages - but this is English! Seriously - as a professional in the field, I would not be too impressed by someone looking for a job as a copy-editor and spelling it copyeditor or copy editor - but maybe that is just a reflection of the way it is in the UK. In America there is a general tendency to delete hyphens and close up the gap in compound words, so it's certainly logical to spell it copyeditor in America. But I'm still allowednottolikeit! Hugh2414 09:15, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Actually, industry use in the USA is "copy editor" and "copy editing": see the American Copy Editors Society (a den of reactionaries who, of course, invite you to "e-mail" the "Web master"). As a nonprofessional, I don't mind "copyedit" (but I might not use it, depending where the text's headed), but I still find "copyeditor" very jarring. The Slot is another very good copy-editing site. –Hajor 15:17, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Well, who'd'a thunk that something like this would be different between UK and US English? Very interesting. (As far as style/editing manuals--Chicago Manual of Style, which is just about the preeminent style guide over here, has both copyedit and copyeditor as one word.) Personally I am least comfortable with the hyphenated version because we'd never do that here. Certainly Merriam-Webster and Encarta are US-based dictionaries. I have an OED from the early 1970s and I can't find copy(-)edit(or) in any form--just copy and editseparately--which makes me think that they think that it's 2 separate words. Dang. Now what? According to Wiki general guidelines, the original flavor (flavour :-) ) US/UK of an article is maintained, which would put it back to copyediting.) Of course this is probably the most trivial of things to be spending time sorting out... Elf 17:01, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Interesting comment about CMS's usage -- presumably a book/newspaper difference, then? (I think newspapermen do tend to be more reactionary: you've got the AP still holding out with "teen-ager", for example. I wonder when they admitted defeat on "news-paper"?) –Hajor 18:18, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Must disagree. Chicago Manual of Style is not the preeminent style AE style - AP is. :) [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 05:25, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'm a newspaper editor and a member of the American Copy Editors Society. My understanding is at least in the United States, newspapers use two words for "copy editor" and "copy editing" and book and magazine people often use one word.

Maybe a compromise would be too split the difference with a hyphen.

I believe that in U.K. newspapers, the equivalent job is "sub editor," though I'm not sure of the style.

It's also my understanding that copy editors at newspapers have more lattitude than those at books and magazines.

Because part of the job of any copy editor is to understand and enforce style, perhaps at some point, a summary of this discussion would be useful on the main page.

And by the way, the Associated Press stylebook now lists "teenager" as one word.

- Maurreen Skowran, 11 Sep 2004

 * Copyediting and copyeditor will worldwide be standard usage within a few years in places where they aren't already. This is standard in the English language: common two-word phrases start out as separate words with literal meanings (in this case "copy editing", meaning "the editing of copy"), eventually become joined with hyphens, and eventually drop the hyphens.  Rarely does the process stop in the middle, so it's highly unlikely copy-editing will persist for long. FWIW, US English tends to skip over the hyphenation stage altogether and go from two words straight to a single compound word. --Delirium 18:33, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC)

no commercial links, please
I killed a link to a commercial editing service - DavidWBrooks 17:58, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

CopyEdit and wikipedia
Hi,

What about an article on copyedit in wikipedia. It can be informative for new users using wikipedia. May be it should be in wikipedia name space. A link can be given in this article to copyedit in wikipedia.

Zain 20:30, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I think Manual of Style does it. I don't know about putting it in the article, though - wikipedia usually tries to keep internal stuff separate from articles. - DavidWBrooks 21:19, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I deleted the mention of WYSIWYG as this is followed by the sentence about XML coding. Most copy editors use a text editor (though sometimes with a WYSIWYG split screen) so they can insert tags and other coding. (I would hate to attempt any copyediting in Microsoft Word, unless that was to be its end format.) Shantavira 09:53, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Improvement . ..
The article needs more on radio, tv and Web copy editing, as well as copy editing done in other fields, like public relations and advertising. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I think this article needs a copy edit.  Jolly  Ω   Janner  20:58, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

I think the article needs more about book copyediting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.54.144 (talk) 15:35, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Do you think we should we add a section on accessibility for readers with disabilities; i.e., audio translations of text for the visually impaired? -Ethicks1998 (talk) 14:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Traits, Skills and Training
I deleted "commercial centers" because I don't know what they are. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:31, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

 * Argh - serial commas! The AP Stylebook will hunt you down! - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

I checked wp:style and was reminded that WikiP does not have any particular rule on serial commas. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 15:41, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Question on UK terminology
Can someone with the knowledge please include explanation of why a copy editor is a "sub"? The North American usage is explained (editor who prepared "copy," typeset material or prepared text.) But what is the "sub" about? "Subject"? "Subordinate"? "Subtle"? If it's more an organizational title than a functional title, are we sure it's the equivalent of copyeditor? I'm sorry to be ignorant, but in the UK are there proofreaders? Is that maybe the equivalent job? 72.148.152.214 (talk) 19:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC) (DavidH)
 * sub-editor --Senra (talk) 16:12, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
 * It means exactly the same thing as copy editor in the context of newspapers and magazines. However, even in the UK, copy editors on books and other non-periodical publications are usually called copy editors rather than sub-editors. Proofreaders are called proofreaders. I don't know where the "sub" bit of the word comes from, though I presume it's "subordinate"; the only comparator I can think of, offhand, is "sub-organist", a term sometimes used in the UK for the assistant organist at a large church or cathedral. Barnabypage (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

For the "copy-edit" assignment: Looking good, you make this statement “this case along with many others, continue to be fundamental tools when dealing with Indian land rights that are covered under the various treaties between the U.S. and Indian tribes.” Possibly you could talk about how this case continues to be a fundamental tool when dealing with Indian land rights and add a link to other fundamental cases. Misstbird (talk) 20:36, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The "five Cs" summarise the copy editor's job
I "undid" this revision by User:SlimVirgin today. We have had the following listed thus, "The "five Cs" summarize the copy editor's job: Make the copy clear, correct, concise, complete, and consistent. Copy editors should make it say what it means, and mean what it says" for as long as I have been aware of this article. My edit summary – "Reverted good faith edits by SlimVirgin (talk): comprehensible means the same as clear (understandable)" – explains why I reversed User:SlimVirgin, who has immediately reverted my edit. Surely the duplication of comprehensible with clear (both meaning "understandable") should not remain and 'complete' should be restored –  –  Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | 19:39, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Hi Gareth, I added a source for the five Cs, including comprehensible. It's not the job of a copy editor to make sure the text is "complete" in the sense of comprehensive. SlimVirgin (talk) 19:46, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

–  Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | 20:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi SlimVirgin, Yes I have seen the new reference. Thank you. My point is the duplication – keep 'comprehensible', I prefer it to 'clear' – replace 'clear' with ... any ideas? –

 * If the "five Cs" is actually a legendary copy editor's maxim, we should leave it untouched. Are there better sources for it than somebody's workshop-talk presentation PDF? --McGeddon (talk) 20:11, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * There are lots of online sources, e.g. SlimVirgin (talk) 20:20, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * A quick Google search yields 18,500 hits for "clear, correct, concise, complete, and consistent" and 12,600 hits for "clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent". Both can be found in advice guides and advertisements from professional copy editors. Is there a reputable source that first came up with the 5 C list? I haven't been able to find it yet. Personally, I agree that "complete" is beyond the strict definition of what a copy editor does, and I'm uncertain about what the distinction between "clear" and "comprehensible" is supposed to be. Tdslk (talk) 21:01, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * A Google search isn't a good way to measure this, because lots of sources will have copied the text from this article. I have never heard of "complete" being included in the five Cs -- not least because it would make no sense. Copy editors don't as a rule expand text to ensure that it's "complete"; they work with what's there. I'll look around to see if I can find the oldest and best source for the list. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Not an RS for our purposes, but worth noting that WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/How to also uses "clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent." SlimVirgin (talk) 21:15, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * Not an old source but a good one: Peter Lyons and Howard J. Doueck, The Dissertation: From Beginning to End, Oxford University Press, 2010, p. 170. They don't refer to the five Cs by name, but they do refer to ""clear, correct, concise, comprehensible, and consistent." SlimVirgin (talk) 21:21, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * That's better than any source I've found. Does it explain the intended distinction between "clear" and "comprehensible"? Also, FWIW, the original edit used "comprehensible": http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Copy_editing&oldid=82757023. Tdslk (talk) 21:29, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

 * I haven't found an explanation for the difference between clear and comprehensible. The text was changed here in 2010 by an anon, btw. SlimVirgin (talk) 21:57, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Well done Tdslk for finding Revision as of 04:03, October 21, 2006. Also SlimVirgin for finding the anon who has not edited since from that IP, or before for that matter. It is now beginning to dawn on me that the present version, that is to say SlimVirgin's revision should remain. Thanks to all who contributed! –  –  Gareth Griffith-Jones | The Welsh Buzzard | 21:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

"three levels" of copy editing
Is the paragraph starting with "copy editing has three levels: light, medium, and heavy" an arbitrary classification copied from a beginner's text book or how-to on the topic? I don't want to simply remove it because it is sourced, but it doesn't sound generic or universal to me. -- Theoprakt (talk) 08:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Impacts of technology in copy editing
Hi everyone. I've made a brief perusal of the page and it currently looks pretty solid. However, I was wondering if it would be possible to add a section regarding the impacts of technology in copy editing compared to manually-edited content. Please feel free to offer suggestions if you have any comments or concerns. I'd appreciate any feedback. -Ethicks1998 (talk) 00:22, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

"Why Aren't These Pages Copyedited" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Why Aren&. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. UnitedStatesian (talk) 18:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Question on spelling
Is there meant to be consistency in the way variations of "copy edit" are spelt within the body of the article? For example, there are several instances each of "copy editor" and "copyeditor". Thanks, Mondo Beer (talk) 14:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Copy editing vs. language editing
I have tried to figure out the difference between the two. Can anyone answer my question, maybe by putting it into the Wikipedia article? I am sure I am not the only one who has that question. Cheers, 130.226.41.9 (talk) 12:35, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

On systematically changing the spelling of the subject of this article
The spelling should match the title of the article. If you feel strongly that the article title is not spelled correctly, you can read about how to suggest a change at WP:RM. - MrOllie (talk) 15:36, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading?
This organisation has no article so the default assumption is that it is not wp:notable. Consequently I have removed the reference to it from this article as potentially misleading promotion. If an article about it is created, the info can be reinstated.

To be accepted, the article as minimum should say what the charter is, and how/when it came into existence, citing a (disinterested) wp:reliable source. The article would need to provide third-party evidence that its qualifications have any de facto or (preferably) de jure recognition. Any WP:conflict of interest must be declared.--John Maynard Friedman (talk) 23:51, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Citation needed that describes how the terms "proof-reading" and "copy-editing" have become merged in common usage
I have asked at talk:Proofreading if anyone can provide a citation to support my "as everybody knows" statement. Please reply there or edit that article. Thank you. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:13, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

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Chosen people

Throughout history, various groups of people have considered themselves to be the chosen people of a deity, for a particular purpose. The phenomenon of a "chosen people" is well known among the Israelites and Jews, where the term (עם סגולה / העם הנבחר) originally referred to the Israelites as being selected by Yahweh to worship only him and to fulfill the mission of proclaiming his truth throughout the world. Some claims of chosenness are based on parallel claims of Israelite ancestry, as is the case for the Christian Identity and Black Hebrew sects—both which claim themselves (and not Jews) to be the "true Israel". Others claim that the concept is spiritual, where individuals who genuinely believe in God are considered to be the "true" chosen people. This view is common among most Christian denominations, who historically believed that the church replaced Israel as the people of God.

Anthropologists commonly regard claims of chosenness as a form of ethnocentrism.

Judaism
In Judaism, "chosenness" is the belief that the Jews, via descent from the ancient Israelites, are the chosen people, i.e., chosen to be in a covenant with God. The idea of the Israelites being chosen by God is found most directly in the Book of Deuteronomy, where it is applied to Israel at Mount Sinai upon the condition of their acceptance of the Mosaic covenant between themselves and the LORD God. The decalogue immediately follows, and the seventh day sabbath is given as the sign of the covenant, with a requirement that Israel keep it, or else be cut off. The verb 'bahar, and is alluded to elsewhere in the Hebrew Bible using other terms such as "holy people". Much is written about these topics in rabbinic literature. The three largest Jewish denominations—Orthodox Judaism, Conservative Judaism and Reform Judaism—maintain the belief that the Jews have been chosen by God for a purpose. Sometimes this choice is seen as charging the Jewish people with a specific mission—to be a light unto the nations, and to exemplify the covenant with God as described in the Torah. This is first prominently outlined in Genesis 12:2.

While the concept of "choseness" may be understood by some to connote ethnic supremacy, Conservative Judaism denies this, as it claims that as a result of being chosen, Jews also bear the greatest responsibility, which incurs the most severe punishment upon disobedience. "'Few beliefs have been subject to as much misunderstanding as the 'Chosen People' doctrine. The Torah and the Prophets clearly stated that this does not imply any innate Jewish superiority. In the words of Amos (3:2) 'You alone have I singled out of all the families of the earth—that is why I will call you to account for your iniquities.' The Torah tells us that we are to be 'a kingdom of priests and a holy nation' with obligations and duties which flowed from our willingness to accept this status. Far from being a license for special privilege, it entailed additional responsibilities not only toward God but to our fellow human beings. As expressed in the blessing at the reading of the Torah, our people have always felt it to be a privilege to be selected for such a purpose. For the modern traditional Jew, the doctrine of the election and the covenant of Israel offers a purpose for Jewish existence which transcends its own self interests. It suggests that because of our special history and unique heritage we are in a position to demonstrate that a people that takes seriously the idea of being covenanted with God can not only thrive in the face of oppression, but can be a source of blessing to its children and its neighbors. It obligates us to build a just and compassionate society throughout the world and especially in the land of Israel where we may teach by example what it means to be a 'covenant people, a light unto the nations.''"Likewise, Rabbi Lord Immanuel Jakobovits views the concept of "choseness" as God choosing different nations, and by extension individuals, to perform unique contributions to the world, similar to the concept of division of labor.  "'Yes, I do believe that the chosen people concept as affirmed by Judaism in its holy writ, its prayers, and its millennial tradition. In fact, I believe that every people—and indeed, in a more limited way, every individual—is 'chosen' or destined for some distinct purpose in advancing the designs of Providence. Only, some fulfill their mission and others do not. Maybe the Greeks were chosen for their unique contributions to art and philosophy, the Romans for their pioneering services in law and government, the British for bringing parliamentary rule into the world, and the Americans for piloting democracy in a pluralistic society. The Jews were chosen by God to be 'peculiar unto Me' as the pioneers of religion and morality; that was and is their national purpose.'"

Mormonism
In Mormonism, all Latter Day Saints are viewed as covenant, or chosen, people because they have accepted the name of Jesus Christ through the ordinance of baptism. In contrast to supersessionism, Latter Day Saints do not dispute the "chosen" status of the Jewish people. Most practicing Mormons receive a patriarchal blessing that reveals their lineage in the House of Israel. This lineage may be blood related or through "adoption;" therefore, a child may not necessarily share the lineage of her parents (but will still be a member of the tribes of Israel). It is a widely held belief that most members of the faith are in the tribe of Ephraim or the tribe of Manasseh.

Christian Identity
Christian Identity is a belief which holds the view that only either Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, or Aryan people and those of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and hence the descendants of the ancient Israelites.

Independently practiced by individuals, independent congregations, and some prison gangs, it is not an organized religion, nor is it connected with specific Christian denominations. Its theology promotes a racial interpretation of Christianity. Christian Identity beliefs were primarily developed and promoted by American authors who regarded Europeans as the "chosen people" and Jews as the cursed offspring of Cain, the "serpent hybrid" or serpent seed, a belief known as the two-seedline doctrine. White supremacist sects and gangs later adopted many of these teachings.

Christian Identity holds that all non-whites (people not of wholly European descent) will either be exterminated or enslaved in order to serve the white race in the new Heavenly Kingdom on Earth under the reign of Jesus Christ. Its doctrine states that only "Adamic" (white) people can achieve salvation and paradise.

Mandaeism
Mandaeans formally refer to themselves as Nasurai (Nasoraeans) meaning guardians or possessors of secret rites and knowledge. Another early self-appellation is bhiri zidqa meaning 'elect of righteousness' or 'the chosen righteous', a term found in the Book of Enoch and Genesis Apocryphon II, 4.

Rastafari
Based on Jewish biblical tradition and Ethiopian legend via Kebra Nagast, Rastas believe that Israel's King Solomon, together with Ethiopian Queen of Sheba, conceived a child which began the Solomonic line of kings in Ethiopia, rendering the Ethiopian people as the true children of Israel, and thereby chosen. Reinforcement of this belief occurred when Beta Israel, Ethiopia's ancient Israelite First Temple community, were rescued from Sudanese famine and brought to Israel during Operation Moses in 1985.

Unification Church
Sun Myung Moon taught that Korea is the chosen nation, selected to serve a divine mission and was "chosen by God to be the birthplace of the leading figure of the age" and was the birthplace of "Heavenly Tradition", ushering in God's kingdom.

Nation of Islam
The Nation of Islam teaches that black people constitute a nation and that through the institution of the Atlantic slave trade they were systematically denied knowledge of their history, language, culture, and religion and, in effect, lost control of their lives. Although not the Founder of The Nation of Islam, Elijah Muhammad was outspoken and called for the establishment of a separate nation for black Americans and the adoption of a religion based on the worship of Allah and on the belief that blacks were his chosen people.

Maasai religion
The traditional religion of the Maasai people from East Africa maintains that the Supreme God Ngai has chosen them to herd all cattle in the world, and this belief has been used to justify stealing from other tribes.

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"Chosen People" = "Master Race"?
It's pretty much the same notion, eh? They both fall under the rather narrow category of "ethnocentric superiority complex"... The parallels should at least be mentioned. 71.247.177.135 (talk) 20:08, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I suggest that you read the section regarding that issue under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chosen_people#Ethnocentrism . Groups that hold an idea of a chosen people typically regard it as being something very, very different from the notion of a "master race". Asarelah (talk) 04:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

 * In fact, I would suggest that different groups have different definitions of what "chosen people" really means. Some might define it similar to a master race; some might define it in terms that only their religion or group can achieve salvation or heaven. Still others might define it to mean that anyone joining their religion is accepted into the "chosen people"; and still others might see it as any who believe certain ideas, no matter what religious affiliation, are "chosen." Of course, this is a very short list and isn't complete. And then defining "chosen" is also varied. Chosen for heaven or salvation after this life, chosen for a better place in this life, chosen to have certain beliefs, chosen to accomplish certain things in the world, etc. Depending on a person's religious beliefs, the definitions can be drastically different. We need to be careful in how concepts and ideas are worded in these articles. It is important to define a religion in terms that it's followers agree with for it to appear legitimate.--Truecolors (talk) 16:23, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

"Chosen People" does indeed mean "Master Race", that is why the Herrenrasse ideology of the Nazis should be mentioned in this article. Whether a group of people think themselves better and above the rest of humankind due to a proximity to god (as in Judaism) or due to some grand destiny (as with Nazis) does not matter. The underlying idea of superiority of one's own group is the same. It is the very lowest form of intellectual tribalism. ♆ CUSH ♆ 09:12, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Relatively Unknown Sects
Removed advertisement from minor sect. Any particular cults listed need to have risen to a sufficiently known status first to satisfy encyclopaedic Q. Lycurgus 14:19, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Moved from article
'Islamic supersessionism retroactively rewrites the role of Abraham, and presents Muslims as the only people chosen to carry the true word of God.'

 * This really isn't NPOV, is it? Sam [Spade] 03:12, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Um, it is what Muslims believe. No religion's beliefs are NPOV! But this statement is presented in an NPOV fashion. It would be a violation of NPOV to say that "Muslims are the only people chosen to carry the true word of God." To make this statement NPOV, we must rewrite this not as a fact, but rather as a statement which makes it clear that this is what Muslims happen to believe. "Islamic supersessionism retroactively rewrites the role of Abraham, and presents Muslims as the only people chosen to carry the true word of God." RK 14:52, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

 * ok, lets try again. This sentance is extremely POV. It takes it as a given that muslims "retroactively rewrote" the story. Also this article is the only source I can find for the word "supersessionism". Did you make it up, or what? (found the wiki article on Supersessionism). Sam [Spade] 23:38, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Is the link to Americentrism NPOV? It should be changed to Ethnocentrism, as the link suggests Americentrism is stronger than other kinds of ethnocentrism.

Purposes of Being Chosen
I'm removing this section. This has nothing to do with the definition of exclusivism. It seems more like a straw man against exclusivism being smuggled in.

Big QUESTION?
Why does exclusivism link to "Chosen People". Being chosen in not a necessary inference to exclusivism. Exclusivism is simply a belief that certain ones adhering to a particular religion will be saved or blessed. (In Christianity, go to heaven)

This does not necessitate being chosen. Some would argue exclusivism based upon free will. Some one needs to change this link.

NPOV issue in Hitler/Nazism statement
I'm opening a serious can of worms here...

 * The Nazis considered the Aryan race to be superior, and believed it was their mission to eliminate all races they considered "inferior" in the name of secular human evolution

This statement seems to come from a creationist/anti-evolution POV. One of creationism's key arguments against evolution is that it's the "basis" of Nazism, Communism, "moral relativism," etc. As skeptic Michael Shermer has pointed out, that's like arguing that the printing press is responsible for Mein Kampf. Evolution was no doubt (mis)used to justify Hitler's ideology, but so were genetics and other sciences. Hitler's genocides weren't "in the name of" evolution, they were in the name of racism, white supremacism and Hitler's own perverted megalomania. Szyslak 00:11, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

 * And the only race they did try to wipe out was Jews, chosen not because of theories of evolution but because of longstanding Christian antipathy. Nothing in evolutionary theory, even of the most racist variety, would rationalise singling out Jews. You find it used in the late nineteenth century to justify the elimination of Khoisan peoples and Australian Aborigines as "inferior", but not Jews. The Nazis never had any plans to eliminate all races other than the Aryan (however you define Aryan). Paul B 11:45, 20 June 2005 (UTC)
 * Not quite correct. The decision to wipe out the Jews was not taken until 1941/42, at the notorious Wannsee Conference. Until then many Jews had been killed, but not gassed im masses. There was a plan to deport them to Madagascar which could not be realised.

Hitler adhered to a conviction that the Nordic Germans were a kind of chosen people, not by a god, but by providence, a term he liked to use. Another unpopular race with the Nazis were the Slavs, whom they called untermensh. Millions of Russian etc. POWs were killed or left to die. In fact the Slavs are quite Aryan, at least as much as the Germans. Ontologix (talk) 04:51, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

error
"Muslims who believe that Muslims, Christians and Jews all serve the same God" ALL muslims believe that Muslims, Christians and Jews all serve the same God.. - --Cyprus2k1 22:25, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Excised section
This paragraph doesn't seem to add any new information, and parts of it are unclear in their meaning. Precisely what does it mean for a movement to be "untrue"? The assertion that movements of all types consider themselves to be "'chosen' in one way or another" is also very debatable. What of atheist movements? ''However, it is important to distinguish between the self-importance of a movement and the truth of its message. Movements of all types consider themselves to be "chosen" in one way or another to change the course of history. Some movements may prove to be true, and some movements may prove to be false. The truth of their message and their confidence in their message are entirely separate questions.''

Jewish "salvation"?
I have a problem with this part of the article: "This belief is primarily rooted in the understanding that gentiles can achieve salvation just as Jews." The problem is, "salvation" is a primarily Christian concept that doesn't exist in Judaism. Can someone who knows more about this topic fix this section and remove the salvation reference? --D Monack 03:33, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

Salvation DOES exist in Judaism as a concept, as it says: Isaiah 43:3 "For I the L-RD am your G-d, the Holy One of Israel, YOUR SAVIOR. I gave Egypt as a ransom for you, Ethiopia and Saba in exchange for you." (JPS). Christians interpret this savior as being Jesus, while traditional Jewish thinking refeers to god as the savior. The same applies to Redeemer: Isaiah 60:16 says "...And you shall know that I the L-RD [ie, HaShem] am your Saviour, I The Mighty One of Jacob, am your Redeemer."

Salvation in the sense that a person can "achieve salvation" is NOT a Jewish concept. As I understand it, that kind of salvation is needed by Christians because of original sin, another concept not shared by Jews. The Israelites did not "achieve salvation" at the Red Sea, they were saved from the Egyptian army.

EMV Dec 2005

 * Some mention needs to be made that this term almost always, in American English, is slang for Jewish people. It is such a well-known slang synonym that born-again Christians and other fundamentalist Christians even routinely joke back, "No, we are the real chosen people, you guys abandoned G_D (Jesus)."  This is anecdotal context and story, but the point should be clear.  Oemb1905 16:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

This second paragraph under Roman Catholicism
Jesus has never mentioned being the son of God. "I am the way, the truth, and the life, No one comes to the Father except through Me" Relation to God was established by man, we can refer to God as the creator, the father, and everything he created deserves respect. There is one simple rule everybody should practice "never do to others what you do not want them to do to you" There is no chosen people, nobody has the right to pretend so, each one of us must find his own path. Life on earth is a bridge, all we have to do is cross that bridge leaving things behind as clean as possible. Man is capable of the best and the worst, we all should focus on best and better.

I removed that. Jinniya 23:36, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

 * As a picky point, I could accept "Jesus has never mentioned being the son of God" if Jesus had said "our Father" in John 14:2, but (according to John) he said "my Father".
 *  In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you.  (King James version)
 * Though given that the writing of John is traditionally dated 90-110 CE, it is more a matter of faith and/or ideology than verbatim reporting as to whether Jesus actually said "my" or "our", let alone the rest of that famous verse. Vaughan Pratt (talk) 19:04, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Islam
The treatment of Islam throughout the Wikipedia is problematic and especially so where contested topics are under discussion.

One major source of error is the failure to distinguish between "Islam" (more an ideal way of life, based on the Qur'an and sunnah, than a system of beliefs or philosophy) from "Muslims" (whose behavior exhibits great variation, in response to multiple factors that go into the making of their passions and interests). Another, to squeeze out "Islamic" or "Muslim" answers to essentially extra-Islamic questions; questions that are often phrased in terminology that defies any valid translation in the Muslim much less Islamic context.

The statement on this page that: "Some Muslims believe Islam is Exclusive [sic. -- why capitalised?], and some do not" needs review (as does this entire entry). Even if true, this is misleading; for Islam is no more defined by what "some" (how many?) Muslims believe than Judaism, Christianity, or Budhism by what some Jews, Christians, or Budhists believe. The near unanimous consensus of Muslims would be that "Islam is not exclusive" - in the sense that anyone can be a full and equal member of the Muslim community if she so wishes. In other words, any one who by a simple proclamation renounces all gods other than the One-God and accepts Mohammad as the messenger of the One-God -- and nothing else, becomes a full and equal member of the Muslim community. Your full and equal member of the Muslim community has several exclusivistic conditions attached. So. you have conceded that Islam is exclusivistic. Why should one renounce one's version of God handed to him/her by generations of tradition? Why should one accept Mohammed as "the messenger"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.134.114 (talk) 07:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

In Islam there is no concept of Muslims as a chosen people (in fact, like Christianity, Islam holds that the people of Moses, historically, were the Chosen People); instead the Qur'an speaks of "mankind" as a chosen creation. Unlike prophets before him, Mohammad did not address his congregation as "O people of Quraysh [the tribe to which he belonged]" or "O people of Makkah [the city to which he belonged]" but as "ya ayyuha al-naas" (or O members of the human race). In my view therefore all references to Islam could be deleted from this article; it doesn't belong here. No Muslim would object to this and I do not see why anyone else would!

Digression: Wiki: "Exclusive - Excluding items or members that do not meet certain conditions". Thus, to say that Bolivians shall be excluded from being considered Brazilians, is not being exclusive; but to say that Bolivians shall not be eligible to become Brazilians is being exclusive. (So, the definition above should really be: "Exclusive - Excluding items or members that do not meet certain conditions, that they can meet.") Two further refinements are possible. First, the conditions should not be onerous (a club that requires a million dollars as membership fee would be called exclusive, just as one with a "whites only" policy. Second, the membership should be full and equal (if new members are not eligible for the same privileges as old members then -- at least until they become so eligible -- then we would call this exclusion, or if they are eligible for all privileges but only in a subsidiary position to some other members then again we would call this exclusion). If this is accepted, then the definition would be: "Exclusive - Excluding from full and equal inclusion items or members that do not meet certain conditions, that they can easily meet." Or some such thing.

If this is accepted, the rest of the entry (on Islam, and other statements about Islam in this article) needs to be deleted (or if you must, re-written). Also, once we agree on this meaning of exclusion, some of the statements about other religions may need further review.

Azlondon 10:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)azlondon

 * This same issue occurs throughout Wikipedia for the term Jew. I suggest you read some of the dsicussions there as we have made changes and suggestions that seem to help.  One helpful thing is to refer to the sub groups by specific name, instead of making a hasty generalization, like stating adherents of Islam, or something like that.  At the same time, certain groups do contain macro-principles that all adherents believe.  For example, all adherents of Islam, would probably agree that Mohammed was prophet of A__ah.  Oemb1905 16:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

People
Why does this article talk about groups in general? Somehow, I usually encounter the concept of "chosen people" as using "people" in reference to racial or ethnic groups, not just groups of people. I think it is not fitting to address just about any group that thinks it is superior in some way, such as the Christian and Islamic groups considering themselves as chosen to carry the truth. This non-ethnic religious aspect is definitely worth mention, but I feel that it does not match the meaning of the phrase very well, and such should receive mention elsewhere. Of course, the mention of Christian-Nazi-Aryan mixes and other times where the racial aspect is tied to the religiously chosen notion should still be mentioned, since this identifies one 'people' out of the 'peoples' for some sort of divine selection.

Including all groups that feel chosen(and happen to be composed of people) makes the scope of the article wider than that of "chosen people" as it is commonly used. Thus, I suggest that the parts with an indisputable ethnic/racial tie should be included, but other types(such as a religion considering itself truthful) should be relegated to another article. So I think it just that the sections regarding Jewish, Nazi-Aryan, Christian Identity, and be kept under this name. (About LDS, I think it should also be kept since the usage is really beyond that of a general Christian group, in that it seems to imitate the original Jewish notion in many ways, such as identification of followers with tribes of Israel, and using "Gentile" to describe non-Mormons.) But the inter-religious rivalry over truth alone should not be part of this article. In my opinion, of course.

What do you all think of this proposal?

 * My responce to this anon user from over a year ago is this. Your proposal is highly offensive and absolutely POV (see WP:NPOV) (and at the same time incorrect).  The belief in Jewish "chosenness" is religiously based, like Christianity and Islam, and not racial or ethnic as you try to group it as, like White Supremacists.  In case you are unaware, anyone can be come Jewish through conversion, just like any other religion, at which point they are a full Jew in every way.  You're statement is made on false beliefs, one cannot become "Aryan" if they were not born as one. Epson291 08:38, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Rastafari
I think we need evidence for the statements regarding Rastafari. Rastafaris are divided along Muslim, Christian, and other groups. Some believe, in a positive way, that they are inferior to the white race and destined to serve them in a biblical sense. And they trace this to allegorical and biblical stories. Would a Rastafari expert please be consulted ASAP, since this information seems at the best incomplete, and at the worst, wrong. Oemb1905 16:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Mormon Section
Can anyone provide a reference for the "kin blood of the Jews" statement? I've never heard the claim stated this way, and the quotes make it appear as though it is a direct quote from something doctrinal. I've inserted a citation request. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulistano (talk • contribs) 01:45, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The CHOSEN PEOPLE SELF-imposed standards (according to article intro)
How can religious standards be self-imposed when God allegedly "chose" the people? (If God chose them, HE imposed whatever religious standards, and if only by choosing)

It is logically impossible, and clearly serves only to embellish a concept akin to that of being a master race. Somebody please edit the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.154.104 (talk) 18:59, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

 * Oh please, don't be so naive. If one makes a claim to be chosen by god, then it is not actually the god (which is likely non-existing anyways) who chooses, but the one making the claim self-imposes the choseness. · CUSH · 17:34, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Article Intro: "Jews and, by extension, Christians consider themselves to be the "chosen people""
Christians consider themselves "chosen" as well? This is new to me. Citation/quote/source anyone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.181.155.52 (talk) 18:40, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See supersessionism Epson291 (talk) 05:37, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

AfD: Manichaean paranoia
Please partake in the discussion whether Manichaean paranoia should be deleted or not on this page (WP:AfD/Manichaean paranoia (2nd nomination)! ... said: Rursus (bork²) 13:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Could someone please paraphrase the following sentence, for correction of wrong translation?
Could someone please paraphrase the following sentence, as I think there is a mistake in translation in the Japanese version of the article "Chosen people".

Although the paragraph about "Roman Catholicism", which was added by RK by copying from the God article, has been deleted by Rchamberlain, it still remains in the Japanese version of the article and needs clarification.

The question is that in the sentence shown at the bottom, the word "nor" is used to negage the noun phrase "the possibility of asking to be baptized"; then, what is the first instance of negation which introduded the word "nor"?

The paragraph in question is as follows:

"Roman Catholicism had traditionally taught that all non-Christians would not be saved. Today many within the Roman Catholic Church teach that salvation is not ruled out for those who have not had the Gospel proclaimed to them, nor the possibility of asking to be baptized."

PS: Please be reminded that this does not concern legitimacy or authenticity of the article, but concerns the correctness of the translation. Thanks in advance.--YOSHIYUKI OGAWA (talk) 06:54, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

 * The answer is that the negation is a reiterated one. "Nor" reiterates the lack of possibility of being Christianized. You shouldn't expect too much logical precision in the use of language in this arena. The common thing negated as I stated is the possibility of receiving the gospel of Jesus Christ, which apparently it is being stated that RC doctrine then does not say those who nonetheless live lives in accordance with Christian principles, though they may have lived in times and places where christian evangelism could not reach them, would still nonetheless receive salvation. I don't know if it's still the case but I believe the doctrine was that they would still have to cool their heels in purgatory while all the proper Christians were processed first. So the paraphrase would be:

"Roman Catholicism had traditionally taught that all non-Christians would not be saved. Today many within the Roman Catholic Church teach that salvation is not ruled out for those who have lived in accord with the teachings of Jesus Christ whether or not they had the Gospel proclaimed to them, or had the possibility of asking to be baptized." Also it should be made clear that the RC is a monolithic top-down organization and its doctrine is not determined by what some faction believes or teaches. So the weasel wording probably can be replaced by a reference to an encyclical or bull or refuted by same. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 13:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Christianity heading
The Christianity Section Heading divides the views of SDA and Mormons (Christians) from those of Islam, Rastafari and the Unification Church. The supersessionism link describes a common christian belief that Christians are the new chosen people. I think that it is useful. Editor2020 (talk) 01:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. If you prefer to put it back, feel free to do so. Bus stop (talk) 01:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Link Bob Dylan song
Please, it was more general!!!

Just Abrahamic?
Is it only the Abrahamic related religions that have this particular viewpoint? Wouldn't really be a shocker if this was the case, but is this really the case? ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ (Ταλκ ) 07:12, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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There are not the chosen people
I do not think that there are the chosen people because I do not think that God likes discrimination. For a group of people to say that they are the chosen people, they discriminate against the others. Ruby2021 (talk) 11:58, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We do not ay there are we say "Throughout history, various groups of people have considered themselves to be the chosen people", which is true, there is.Slatersteven (talk) 12:24, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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Annie Gosfield

Annie Gosfield (born September 11, 1960, in Philadelphia) is a New-York-based composer who works on the boundaries between notated and improvised music, electronic and acoustic sounds, refined timbres and noise. She composes for others and performs with her own group, taking her music to festivals, factories, clubs, art spaces and concert halls. Much of her work combines acoustic instruments with electronic sounds, incorporating unusual sources such as satellite sounds, machine sounds, detuned or out-of-tune samples and industrial noises. Her work often contains improvisation and frequently uses extended techniques and/or altered musical instruments. She won a 2012 Berlin Prize.

Work
Gosfield's work includes large-scale compositions, opera, orchestral work, chamber music, electronic music, video projects, and music for dance. She uses traditional notation, improvisation and extended techniques to explore relationships between music and noise. Her music is often inspired by non-musical sounds, such as machines, destroyed pianos, warped 78 rpm records, and detuned radios. She often collaborated with musicians to emphasize their unique qualities.

Gosfield's compositions have been performed internationally by The Bang on a Can Allstars, Agon Orchestra, Joan Jeanrenaud, Fred Frith, Felix Fan, Roger Kleier, Blair McMillen, William Winant, the FLUX Quartet, the Miami String Quartet, The Silesian String Quartet, So Percussion, Talujon Percussion, Newband (on the Harry Partch instruments) and many others, at festivals including Warsaw Autumn, ISCM World Music Days, Bang on a Can Marathon, Huddersfield Contemporary Music Festival, Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival, Festival Musique Actuelle, Wien Modern, OtherMinds, Spoleto Festival USA, Company Week, Taktlos, and three "Radical New Jewish Culture" festivals curated by John Zorn.

In November, 2017, The Los Angeles Philharmonic presented Gosfield's first opera, an original setting of Orson Welles's The War of the Worlds, adapted and directed by Yuval Sharon, simultaneously performed inside Walt Disney Concert Hall and on the streets of Los Angeles, using three repurposed air raid sirens to broadcast the music to the public in satellite performances in parking lots in Downtown Los Angeles.

Gosfield has composed a site-specific work for a factory in Germany, collaborated on installations with artist Manuel Ocampo, and created a video for an imaginary orchestra of destroyed instruments. She has worked with many choreographers, including Karole Armitage, Pam Tanowitz, and Susan Marshall. Her music for dance has been featured at the Venice Biennale, the Next Wave Festival at the Brooklyn Academy of Music (BAM), Teatro Olimpico (Rome), The Joyce Theater, Jacob's Pillow, and the Duke Theater on 42nd Street. Her uncle was actor Maurice Gosfield.

Her large-scale compositions include Daughters of the Industrial Revolution, a concert-length piece inspired by her grandparents’ immigrant experiences in New York City during the Industrial Revolution, commissioned by the MAP Fund and premiered at The Kitchen in 2011; the signature piece EWA7, a site-specific work created during a residency in the industrial environments of Nuremberg, Germany; and Floating Messages and Fading Frequencies, which incorporated coding systems used by the Resistance in WWII, conducted by Pierre-André Valade and performed by the Athelas Sinfonietta, with Gosfield's electronic trio in a four-city U.K. tour that included the 2011 Huddersfield Contemporary Music Festival.

Her work has been profiled in The New York Times, The New Yorker, on National Public Radio, and in articles in The Wire (magazine), Contemporary Music Review, Avant Magazine, Strings Magazine, MusikTexte, and in the book “Music and the Creative Spirit”. She received a 2008 Foundation for Contemporary Arts Grants to Artists Award, and has received recent fellowships from the McKnight Foundation, New York Foundation for the Arts, and the Siemens Foundation.

Her music is featured on four solo CDs on Tzadik Records. Her 2012 release, Almost Truths and Open Deceptions, features a chamber cello concerto, a piece for piano and broken shortwave radio, and compositions inspired by warped 78 rpm records, baseball, and the industrial revolution, performed by the Annie Gosfield Ensemble, Felix Fan, the Flux Quartet, Real Quiet, Blair McMillen, David Cossin, and the Pearls Before Swine Experience. Her third release, Lost Signals and Drifting Satellites, features work scored for solo violin accompanied by satellite transmissions, and solo and chamber works performed by Joan Jeanrenaud and the Flux Quartet. Her previous Tzadik CD, Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery, features two pieces inspired by her 1999 residency in the factories of Nuremberg, Germany. Burnt Ivory and Loose Wires, her first solo release for Tzadik, focuses on her work for detuned piano.

Gosfield taught composition as a visiting lecturer at Columbia University from 2019 to 2021. She was the Milhaud Professor of composition at Mills College in 2003 and 2005, visiting lecturer at Princeton University in 2007, and a visiting artist at Cal Arts in 1999. She also taught composition at the University of Texas Austin in 2019 and Indiana University in 2022.

Gosfield's writing on music has been featured in four essays published by The New York Times' "TimeSelect", and her essay "Fiddling with Sputnik" was published in Arcana II, edited by John Zorn. She is a periodic contributor to "The Score", The New York Times blog where composers discuss their work and the issues involved in creating music in the 21st century.

Honors and appointments
Gosfield received a 2021 Music Award from the Academy of Arts and Letters, and a 2017 Guggenheim Fellowship in music composition. She received the Berlin Prize in music composition, and was made a Fellow at the American Academy in Berlin in spring 2012. She was the Paul Fromm Composer-in-Residence at the American Academy in Rome in 2015, and was a 2008 Civitella Ranieri Fellow.

Discography

 * Burnt Ivory and Loose Wires (1998). Music for detuned piano, saxophone quartet, and cello, performed by Gosfield's ensemble, Rova Saxophone Quartet, and Ted Mook.
 * Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery (2001). Two pieces inspired by a residency in the factories of Nuremberg: EWA7, performed by Gosfield's ensemble, and Flying Sparks and Heavy Machinery, performed by the Flux Quartet and Talujon Percussion.
 * Lost Signals and Drifting Satellites (2004). Chamber and solo works performed by Joan Jeanrenaud, The Flux Quartet, and George Kentros.
 * A Sideways Glance from an Electric Eye (2008). Appears on The Art of Virtual Rhythmicon with works by seven other composers (Innova Recordings).
 * Almost Truths and Open Deceptions (2012). A chamber cello concerto, a piece for piano and broken shortwave radio, and compositions inspired by warped 78 RPM records, baseball, and the industrial revolution. Performed by the Annie Gosfield Ensemble, the Flux Quartet, Real Quiet, Blair McMillen, and the Pearls Before Swine Experience.

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Curling Canada

Curling Canada (formerly the Canadian Curling Association (CCA)) is a sanctioning body for the sport of curling in Canada. It is associated with more than a dozen provincial and territorial curling associations across the country, and organizes Canada's national championships in the sport. It was formed in 1990 by the merger of the two previous sanctioning bodies, Curl Canada (men's) and the Canadian Ladies' Curling Association (women's).

History
The CCA was created in 1990 when Curl Canada and the Canadian Ladies' Curling Association amalgamated. From its creation until 2007, Dave Parkes was the general manager and then chief executive officer (CEO).

Greg Stremlaw was the CEO until 2015 when he took over as head of sports at CBC Sports Katherine Henderson became CEO in 2016 and continued to be in that role until August 2023, when she became CEO of Hockey Canada. Danny Lamoureux took over as interim CEO as her replacement. Nolan Thiessen was appointed CEO in January 2024.

On February 27, 2015, the organization rebranded as Curling Canada.

Presidents (Chairs of the Board 2008–present)

 * 1935–38: John T. Haig
 * 1938–39: Elbridge MacKay
 * 1939–40: Ross Harstone
 * 1940–41: Dr. A. F. Anderson
 * 1941–42: Hon. Thane Campbell
 * 1942–46: George Norgan
 * 1946–47: James E. Armstrong
 * 1947–48: Hon. Brig. Colin A. Campbell
 * 1948–49: Murray Macneill
 * 1949–50: Gordon Hudson
 * 1950–51: Fred Lucas
 * 1951–52: Niven Jackson
 * 1952–53: Fielding Rankine
 * 1953–54: Emmett Smith
 * 1954–55: Cyril Boyd
 * 1955–56: Hon. Sen. Richard Donahoe
 * 1956–57: John Dutton
 * 1957–58: Samuel Rothschild
 * 1958–59: Archibald Wilson
 * 1959–60: Walter B. Cowan
 * 1960–61: Alan MacGowan
 * 1961–62: Earl Bourne
 * 1962–63: Ted Pattee
 * 1963–64: Richard T. Topping
 * 1964–65: Arthur Skinner
 * 1965–66: Frank Sargent
 * 1966–67: Hon. Gordon Lockhart Bennett
 * 1967–68: William Lumsden
 * 1968–69: Harry P. Carter
 * 1969: Alf Parkhill
 * 1969–70: H. P. Webb
 * 1970–71: Dr. Maurice Campbell
 * 1971–72: T. Gordon Thompson
 * 1972–73: Irl England
 * 1973–74: D. William Currie
 * 1974–75: L. E. Olson
 * 1975–76: William Leaman
 * 1976–77: David C. Smith
 * 1977–78: Herbert Millham
 * 1978–79: G. Clifton Thompson
 * 1979–80: Frank Stent
 * 1980–81: Cecil Watt
 * 1981–82: Thomas Fisher
 * 1982–83: Cyril S. Walters
 * 1983–84: Ray Kingsmith
 * 1984–85: Dr. Clyde Opaleychuk
 * 1985–86: Ralph Boyd
 * 1986–87: Jerry Muzika
 * 1987–88: Harvey Mazinke
 * 1988–89: Joseph Gurowka
 * 1989–90: Dr. Edward Steeves
 * 1990: Donald R. MacLeod
 * 1990–91: Dr. Edward Steeves
 * 1991–92: Mary-Anne Nicholson
 * 1992–93: Stanley Oleson
 * 1993–94: Evelyn Krahn
 * 1994–95: Lorne Mitton
 * 1995–96: Shirley Morash
 * 1996–97: Pat Reid
 * 1997–98: Harvey Malo
 * 1998–99: Judy Veinot
 * 1999-00: Jack Boutilier
 * 2000–01: Zivan Saper
 * 2001–02: Don Lewis
 * 2002–03: Maureen Miller
 * 2003–04: Don Petlak
 * 2004–05: Barry Greenberg
 * 2005–06: Jerry Shoemaker
 * 2006–07: Donna Duffett
 * 2007–08: Al Forsythe
 * 2008–09: Fran Todd
 * 2009–10: Graham Prouse
 * 2010–11: Jack Bowman
 * 2011–12: Laura Lochanski
 * 2012–13: Ron Hutton
 * 2013–14: Hugh Avery
 * 2014–15: Marilyn Neily
 * 2015–16: Hugh Avery
 * 2016–17: Peter Inch
 * 2017–18: Resby Coutts
 * 2018–19: Maureen Miller
 * 2019–20: John Shea
 * 2020–21: Mitch Minken (until June 2021)
 * 2021–22: Amy Nixon (from June 2021)
 * 2022–24: Michael Szajewski

Championship events

 * Canadian Mixed Curling Championship
 * Canadian Mixed Doubles Curling Championship
 * Canadian Junior Curling Championships
 * Canadian Visually Impaired Curling Championship
 * Scotties Tournament of Hearts (women's nationals)
 * Montana's Brier (men's nationals)
 * PointsBet Invitational
 * Canada Cup of Curling
 * Canadian Wheelchair Curling Championship
 * Canadian Senior Curling Championships
 * Canadian Masters Curling Championships

Member Associations

 * Curling Alberta
 * Curl BC
 * Curling Québec
 * Curl Manitoba
 * New Brunswick Curling Association
 * Newfoundland and Labrador Curling Association
 * Northern Ontario Curling Association
 * Northwest Territories Curling Association
 * Nova Scotia Curling Association
 * Nunavut Curling Association
 * CurlON (Southern Ontario)
 * Curl PEI
 * CURLSASK
 * Yukon Curling Association

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Daniel Richler

Daniel Richler (born 1957) is a Canadian arts and pop culture broadcaster and writer.

Biography
Richler was born in London, England. His biological father is screenwriter Stanley Mann. His mother, Florence Wood, divorced Mann when Daniel was two years old, and married Mordecai Richler in 1960. The family moved back to Montreal, Quebec — the hometown of both Florence and Mordecai — in 1972 when Daniel was 15.

He became a punk rocker as a teenager and was lead singer of the punk rock band Alpha Jerks. He also joined the Ontario biker gang The New Hegelians as an honorary member, despite not actually owning a motorcycle.

Career
From 1977 through the early 1980s, Richler was a deejay, presenter and critic on a variety of major market radio stations including CHOM-FM in Montreal, and CJCL and CFNY-FM in Toronto. In his early radio career, he used his birth name, Daniel Mann, to avoid trading on his stepfather's fame. He also joined the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, where he was a cultural commentator on CBC Radio's Morningside with Peter Gzowski.

He moved to CITY-TV in 1985, becoming co-host and eventually producer of The NewMusic, the internationally syndicated, pioneering weekly rockumentary show that pre-dated MTV and later gave rise to MuchMusic. The show fused international field journalism and in-depth interviews with rock videos to create an occasionally tough rockumentary newsmagazine geared at 15- to 30-year-olds. Items and documentaries included those on Band-Aid, post-revolutionary music in Zimbabwe, the Japanese pop industry, Andy Warhol's art video work, William Burroughs, Frank Zappa at the Parents Music Resource Center hearings in Washington, the death and legacy of Bob Marley, Yoko Ono post-John, and Malcolm McLaren's manufacture and manipulation of the Sex Pistols.

In 1987 and 1988 Richler was chief arts correspondent on The Journal, CBC's national news program. His international profiles and docs included those on Anthony Burgess, Keith Richards, Art Spiegelman, Pat Nixon and numerous others. He subsequently moved to TVOntario where he became creative head of arts programming, and launched the long-running literary program Imprint, which he later served as host and executive producer. At that time Richler also oversaw the schedule, acquisitions, commissioning and original programming of the channel's arts sector. He developed and launched Prisoners of Gravity with Mark Askwith and host/comedian Rick Green, and commissioned Peter Vronsky's 1991 feature documentary film Mondo Moscow.

He published a novel, Kicking Tomorrow, in 1991. The book was named one of New York Times Book Review's Best Books of 1992.

In the mid-to-late 1990s he was producer, director and presenter of the counterculture show Big Life on CBC Newsworld. Subjects included trepanation, anti-genetically modified food activism, digital downloading, auto-erotic asphyxiation, the Furries, anti-G8 anarchism, Burning Man, Genesis P-Orridge, the true nature and history of ecstasy, turntablism, etc. In 1998, he won the Gemini Award for Best Host in a Lifestyle, Variety, or Performing Arts Program or Series for his work on Big Life.

In 2001 he moved back to ChumCity as editor-in-chief and executive producer of its new literary specialty channel BookTelevision, which launched on September 1, 2001 as a digital service across Canada. There he conceived and developed the channel format, oversaw development of its schedule, budget of original in-house programming, acquisition selection and overall design. He served as executive producer and/or director for The Word News, The Word This Week, Richler, Ink., Writers on the Road, Authors at Harbourfront, Lust, The Electric Archive and a variety of full-length documentaries.

He left BookTelevision in 2004 to move to London, after his wife Jill Offman accepted a senior position with Discovery Channel UK. In the United Kingdom, he has been a writer and director of television documentaries, including How Do They Do It? and Real Vampires, and has continued as an occasional contributor of feature journalism to Canadian newspapers such as the National Post and The Globe and Mail. He returned to Canadian broadcasting in 2015 with a week-long stint as a guest host of CBC Radio's Q.

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Prisoners of Gravity

Prisoners of Gravity was a Canadian television news magazine program. Produced by TVOntario, the show was created by Mark Askwith and Daniel Richler, and was hosted by Rick Green. The series aired 139 episodes over five seasons from 1989 to 1994.

The series explored speculative fiction—science fiction, fantasy, horror, comic books—and its relation to various thematic and social issues.

Format
As established through a comic-strip montage opening sequence drawn by Ty Templeton, the premise held that Rick, a fan of speculative fiction, becomes disturbed by news broadcasts describing the alarming state of the world and decides that he must escape the Earth. He broadcasts his show each week, with help from his computer companion Nan-Cy (short for NANo-CYbernetic 3000), from an orbiting space station. The show's presentation was fully wrapped in its quirky premise, featuring on-screen graphics and background sounds to simulate a space station atmosphere, "using active, innovative cinematography to ease the visual boredom that often accompanies interviews with talking head(s)."

The week's topic was introduced with a few opening thoughts before launching into various interview clips. In each episode, Rick would interview a number of authors and artists, along with filmmakers, animators, and the occasional futurist. Topics that were discussed ran the gamut: censorship, superheroes, humour, religion, fairy tales, Mars, cyberpunk, war, overpopulation, and sex. Episodes were 30 minutes in length (having no commercial breaks on public television) and typically showcased six to fourteen interviewed creators alongside bridging commentary from Rick. Roughly six hundred interviews were conducted and aired by the time the show's run came to an end.

Production
The series was produced by TV Ontario, a public broadcasting station.

The interviews were conducted at science fiction and comic book conventions by production team members Mark Askwith, Shirley Brady, and Gregg Thurlbeck. The majority of the shows were edited by Brian Karn. The series was produced and directed by Jamie Mandelkau (season 1) and by Gregg Thurlbeck (seasons 2 through 5).

Interviews
During its run, the list of authors interviewed became increasingly prestigious, including Clive Barker, George R.R. Martin, Ray Bradbury, David Brin, Charles de Lint, Harlan Ellison, Douglas Adams, William Gibson, Frederik Pohl, Terry Pratchett, Anne Rice, Spider Robinson, and Robert J. Sawyer, who was the most frequent guest on the program. Among the many interviewed comic book creators were Chris Claremont, Will Eisner, Neil Gaiman (who was twice selected as the fan-favourite guest in a viewership mail-in vote), Bob Kane, Jack Kirby, Stan Lee, Daniel Clowes, Fabian Nicieza, Walt Simonson, Scott McCloud, Frank Miller, and Alan Moore. Other notable guests included Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry and actor Michael Dorn, film directors James Cameron and David Cronenberg, award-winning CGI animator Steve 'Spaz' Williams, and renowned palaeontologist Richard Leakey.

Awards
The program was critically successful and won several awards, including the following:

 * 1) Two Prix Aurora Awards
 * 2) A Broadcast Media Award from the International Reading Association
 * 3) A Silver Medal from the New York Festivals of Television
 * 4) Two Gemini nominations.
 * 5) An Honourable Mention from the Columbus International Film & Video Festival

Cancellation
The show was cancelled in 1994 for unspecified reasons, possibly relating to TVOntario's intended programming diversification. According to Rick Green, the signature chair from the space station sat in his garage until "raccoons pooed all over it..." and it was discarded.

Availability
In the 1990s, the series premiered with select episodes from Season 2 onward being broadcast in the United States on PBS, and in Canada on the sci-fi specialty channel Space (which producer Mark Askwith had gone on to develop and continues to helm) and on Discovery Channel Canada.

Due to contractual restrictions made with interviewees at the time of the show's production, there is no commercial release on video or DVD. In 2011, TVOntario posted several episodes from the series in a lower resolution in their public archives. In addition, many episodes (bar the first series) are available for viewing by appointment at The Merril Collection of Science Fiction, Speculation and Fantasy public library located in downtown Toronto, Canada. The Merril Collection's tapes are reputed to be Askwith's own, donated to the collection for preservation. Interview clips from the show are also included with the CD-ROM in newer editions of The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction by John Clute.

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Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone

Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone (ダブルドラゴン3 ザ・ロゼッタストーン) is a side-scrolling beat 'em up arcade game produced by Technōs Japan in 1990. It is the third arcade game in the Double Dragon series. Unlike the previous two games in the series, Double Dragon 3 was not developed internally at Technōs, but development was instead contracted to the company East Technology, resulting in a game that looks and plays differently from its predecessors.

As in the previous games of the series, players control twin martial artists Billy and Jimmy Lee, as they are approached by a mysterious fortune teller named Hiruko, who sends them on a worldwide journey to retrieve three mystical Rosetta Stones and uncover the mystery surrounding them in Egypt. Similar to The Combatribes, which ran on similar hardware, the game can be set for up to two or three players depending on the cabinet, with the third player controlling a new Lee sibling named Sonny. The U.S. version also features item shops where players could use additional credits to purchase in-game items such as weapons, additional moves and new playable characters in one of the earliest forms of microtransactions in a video game, although this system would end up being removed in the later-released Japanese version of the game in favor of a conventional character select feature similar to Golden Axe or Final Fight.

The game's arcade release was followed by home versions for the Sega Genesis, Game Boy and various personal computers. In 2013, emulated versions of the arcade original for various platforms were officially released by DotEmu along with the previous two arcade games in a bundle called Double Dragon Trilogy.

Gameplay
Double Dragon 3 can be played by up to two or three players simultaneously, similarly to The Combatribes. The first two players control returning heroes Billy and Jimmy Lee respectively, while the third player controls a new character named Sonny (a yellow-clad palette swap of the Lee brothers). The controls consist of an eight way joystick and three buttons again, but the combat system has been greatly altered from previous games. The game discards the directional attack buttons from Double Dragon II: The Revenge, returning to the punch and kick format of the original Double Dragon. However, moves such as the elbow strike and the hair grab had been removed and new abilities replaced them. The player can now run by pushing the joystick left or right twice and perform moves with a second player such as a back-to-back hurricane kick when standing near each other and a triangle jump kick when one player jumps towards the other. Other new moves include a running head-butt, a belly-to-back throw and a jumping knee drop.

At the start of certain stages, players will have access to an item shop where they can purchase in-game power-ups by inserting more coins into the cabinet, with each item costing one credit. The item selections varies slightly between stages, but usually includes "Energy" (which restores the player's health up to 150% from the starting value), "Power Up" (which increases the player's attack speed), "Tricks" (which unlocks two additional moves, a solo hurricane kick and a jumping throw) and "Weapons" (which arms the player character with a nunchaku in Mission 2 or a sword in Mission 3 and 5).

One item, "Extra Guys", allows the player to control one of three new character types in addition to the Lee brothers (リー兄弟). These characters form other teams of fighting siblings as well, allowing each player to control a different member of the group. When the player's current fighter is killed, the new one will replace him, essentially substituting the extra lives system from previous games. These new fighters consists of the Urquidez brothers (ユキーデ兄弟) (mixed martial arts champions), the Chin brothers (陳兄弟) (tai chi experts) and the Ōyama brothers (大山兄弟) (karate masters). Each player can hold up to three extra fighters in reserve and can temporarily cycle between any of them for a second before the next character is automatically chosen. The availability of a fighter type varies depends on the stage (the Urquidez brothers are available in Mission 1 and 5, the Chin brothers in Mission 2 and the Ōyama brothers in Mission 3). The new character will inherit any purchased special techniques that the previous character had, but the increased attack speed must be repurchased. Additionally, unlike the Lee brothers, the other character types cannot purchase nor retrieve weapons.

The Japanese version of Double Dragon 3 was finished a bit later than the English version and features drastic changes as a result. Most notably, the item shops were removed from the game and players can instead choose which character to control at the start of the game, allowing the ability to start the game as any of three new fighter types (Urquidez, Chin and Ōyama) in addition to the Lee brothers. Players have access to their character's entire repertoire of moves, although the command input for the Hurricane Kick requires more precise timing in the Japanese version. Since weapons are no longer purchasable items, they can be found lying around on the floor in certain stages, waiting to be picked up by a player controlling a Lee brother. The game was also made easier, with enemies doing 1/3 less damage than in the overseas releases.

Plot
After returning home from a two-year training mission, Billy and Jimmy Lee come across a fortune teller named Hiruko. The woman tells the Lee brothers that in order to challenge the world's strongest adversary, they must seek out the three Rosetta Stones that have been scattered around the world.

The game begins in the United States, where the Lee brothers must defeat the remnants of the Black Warriors gang from the previous games before they set off to find the stones. Afterward, the heroes must travel to China, Japan, Italy, and finally Egypt, where each of the stones are being guarded by formidable fighters unique to each country (such as the shinobi in Japan and archers in Italy) who will refuse to give them up without a fight. Once all three Rosetta Stones have been procured, the Lee brothers' journey reaches its final destination in Egypt, where they face all sorts of supernatural creatures as they enter Cleopatra's tomb to uncover the mystery surrounding the stones.

Development
The game was not internally developed by Technōs Japan, who were busy working on other projects at the time such as WWF Superstars and The Combatribes. Instead a company called East Technology, whose previous work was the 1989 arcade shoot-'em-up Gigandes, was contracted to develop the third game in the series, resulting in a sequel with a drastically different gameplay and graphic style than its predecessors. The game was controversial upon its release due to the addition of item shops where players acquire power-ups by inserting real money into the cabinet, which was removed from the later Japanese release after negative feedback from playtesters.

Music
The music was composed by Akira Inoue and Takaro Nozaki, replacing original Double Dragon composer Kazunaka Yamane, who was busy composing for The Combatribes at the time (Yamane later returned for Super Double Dragon). Inoue composed the background music for the US, Italy and Egypt stages (including the boss battle themes), while Nozaki worked on the rest. The soundtrack was released on June 21, 1991, by Pony Canyon in Japan as a joint CD album that also included the soundtrack to The Combatribes. The catalog number is PCCB-00065. The first half of the album (tracks 1 to 12) covers the Double Dragon 3 portion, which include an arranged version of the title theme. The album does not feature the shop themes that were present in the export versions of the game.

The demo versions of Inoue's tracks were later uploaded on his personal YouTube and Niconico channels in 2014. They were recorded on a KORG T3 synthesizer.

Release
A version for the Nintendo Entertainment System titled Double Dragon III: The Sacred Stones was released in February 1991, a few months after the Japanese arcade release. This version is not a port, but rather was actually a parallel project that was developed simultaneously with the arcade release. While the plot of the two versions are similar, the graphics, gameplay system and characters featured in the NES version are very different compared to the arcade version.

Double Dragon 3 was ported to various platforms under license from Tradewest. Versions were released for the ZX Spectrum, Amstrad CPC, Commodore 64, Amiga and Atari ST in late 1991, followed by the IBM PC, Genesis and Game Boy in 1992. These versions of the game were developed by The Sales Curve, with the exception of the Genesis version (which was handled by Software Creations). The Game Boy and Genesis versions were published by Acclaim under the title of Double Dragon 3: The Arcade Game, distinguishing them from the earlier NES release.

Double Dragon 3 was re-released in 2013 alongside the first two arcade games in a compilation titled Double Dragon Trilogy produced by DotEmu, which was released on iOS, Android and Steam platforms. It only includes the overseas version of the game.

Reception
The game was a hit in the United States, where weekly coin drop earnings averaged $188.25 per arcade unit during November and December 1990. In Japan, Game Machine listed Double Dragon 3: The Rosetta Stone on their January 1, 1991 issue as being the third most-successful table arcade unit of the month.

Julian Rignall, writing for Computer and Video Games, reacted positively to the arcade game's change to a more realistic art style and recommended the game to fans of the series, scoring it an 83%.

The arcade game was controversial for its use of microtransactions to buy items in the North American version. This was later removed from the Japanese version of the game.

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Rick Green (comedian)

Richard "Rick" Green, BSc (born November 4, 1953) is a Canadian comedy writer, producer, director and performer. He is most well known as co-creator of The Red Green Show, creator of ADD & Loving It?!, creator of History Bites, founder of Rick Wants to Know, and co-founder of comedy troupe The Frantics. Green also hosted Prisoners of Gravity on TVOntario.

Profiles
Green has a Bachelor of Science degree from the University of Waterloo. His first job was as a demonstrator at the Ontario Science Centre, where he worked as a presenter from 1975 until 1979.

In 1979, Green helped found the Toronto-based comedy troupe The Frantics.

In 2009 Green wrote and directed a documentary called ADD & Loving it?! The film, featuring fellow comedian Patrick McKenna, won a New York Festivals Silver World Medal for Best Medical Documentary and earned Green the CAMH Foundation Celebrity Transforming Lives Award for 2009.

Green has been appointed to the Order of Ontario, and on June 30, 2017, the Governor General of Canada announced Green's appointment as a Member of the Order of Canada for "his contributions to Canadian television as a comedian, actor and writer, and for his efforts to raise awareness and understanding of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)."

In 2024, Rick served as the principal voice actor, and a contributing writer, on the film "Roaches" by short filmmaker David Creighton. As of April 2024 the film is on the film festival circuit.

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Six Flags Darien Lake

Six Flags Darien Lake (also known as Six Flags Darien Lake Resort and formerly known as Darien Lake Fun Country, Darien Lake, Six Flags Darien Lake and Darien Lake Theme Park Resort) is a 1,200-acre (4.86 km2) amusement park and resort located in Corfu, New York, off of Interstate 90 between Buffalo and Rochester. Six Flags Darien Lake features a theme park, water park, campground and lodging. It is owned by EPR Properties and operated by Six Flags.

Darien Lake Fun Country
In 1954, Darien Lake was excavated and filled. The lake was a popular swimming destination for many years. In 1964, investor Paul Snyder acquired a 164-acre (66.37 ha) parcel of land bordering the lake and opened a small 23-site campground and picnic area. Snyder continued acquiring more land eventually increasing his holdings to almost 1,000 acres (4.05 km2) of land which included seven lakes, the largest of which was Darien Lake. He stocked one of the smaller lakes, Trout Pond, with fish, increased the number of campsites and added activities for resort guests such as a small petting zoo, horseback and pony rides, paddleboats, skateboarding, tennis courts and miniature golf. From the late 70s and into the early 80s, Snyder added more attractions, including a set of water slides on a hill near the park's entrance called Rainbow Mountain, creating an amusement park he named Darien Lake Fun Country. Snyder made a deal with HUSS Park Attractions, turning Darien Lake into the North American showcase for the German manufacturer's new rides. Through this deal, the park acquired rides such as the Pirate, Ranger, Thrillbilly and the Corn Popper, for use in the park and to give HUSS a location to display them to potential US and Canadian buyers. In 1982, the newly merged Arrow Huss built and opened the park's first major roller coaster, Viper.

Funtime Parks
In 1983, Snyder sold a 50% stake in the park to Funtime Inc., which also owned Geauga Lake and Wyandot Lake Park. The Fun Country was dropped from the name, and Funtime brought in some major improvements. Funtime's first purchase was the Vekoma-built Giant Wheel Ferris wheel, the showcase of the 1982 World's Fair in Knoxville, Tennessee, and the largest in the United States at the time, which was permanently installed in the park's center. Although no longer the largest in the country, the Giant Wheel is still in operation today (*closing as of 2021 season). Entertainment was also added to the park, with the construction of the Tops Jubilee Theater (now the Grande Theatre), the Lakeside Amphitheater, a large-scale concert stage on the south side of the main lake, presenting big-name acts including The Who, Alice Cooper, and Black Sabbath and Cinema 2000, a wide-angle movie theatre in the back of the park. In the mid-to late 1980s, there was Splashmania, a water skiing show located on Fun Lake. The improvements continued throughout the 1980s and early 1990s, with the addition of a themed kids area, Adventure Land for Kids in 1988 and in 1989 Grizzly Run replaced a kids ride area that was located where a skatepark was. In 1990, six new slides were added to the back of the water slide complex and the area became known as Barracuda Bay and an extra charge was added to the waterpark as well a new locker area, food complex, shopping area and changing rooms. Following the success of a new wooden rollercoaster at Geauga Lake in 1988, Funtime contracted Dinn & Summers to build a new wooden coaster for Darien. The Predator roller coaster opened in May 1990. Around this time, Paul Snyder, sold his remaining share of the park to Funtime, turning over all control to them. In 1992, a new style of entertainment debuted on the midway between Barracuda Bay and the Giant Wheel, a laser light show called Laser Light Fantasy (now called Ignite the Night), which included laser graphics and fireworks. The show was permanently installed in the Lakeside Amphitheater the following year, while concert events were moved to the new Darien Lake Performing Arts Center, which could hold nearly four times as many guests. In 1994, the old Rainbow Mountain waterslides were replaced with a new set called 'Cuda Falls and waterpark became included with park admission.

Premier Parks/Six Flags
In 1995, growing regional park chain Premier Parks bought Funtime, Inc. and its three parks. Premier dove right into changes and additions. In 1995, Skycoaster opened located over Fun Lake. In 1996, Adventure Land was replaced by Popeye's Seaport with all new kiddie rides like a Ferris wheel made to look like barrels, a hand-cranked train ride, a submarine ride, a ship themed play place (removed in 2004), children's shows Popeye's Magic Show and Olive Oyl's Circus that featured audience volunteers, and a food stand and restrooms in the then new kiddie area in an area that was occupied by miniature golf course. A new miniature golf course opened behind the then-new kiddie area near Viper which replaced the old golf course. Also a waterpark expansion with new attractions took place in 1996 and 1997 with Hook's Lagoon (opened in 1996) the Crocodile Isle wave pool (opened in 1997) took over Adventure Land's old location by Elk Lake with new changing rooms and a food stand were built, and a bridge was built to connect the Barracuda Bay slides with the then new water park area and a boat tag game was added to the midway. Three of the old Adventure Land rides were moved to another part of the park as the Tiny Trio in 1997. From 1996-1999, Premier would also install a new roller coaster each year, Nightmare at Phantom Cave in 1996, Mind Eraser in 1997, Boomerang: Coast to Coaster in 1998 and Superman Ride of Steel (the world's first Intamin hypercoaster) in 1999. Nightmare was removed in 1998 and relocated to sister park The Great Escape. In 1998, Premier purchased Six Flags Theme Parks and began to rebrand its own parks as Six Flags. In May 1999, Six Flags Darien Lake opened under its new name, with a few major changes. Premier brought Six Flags' own character base, Looney Tunes and DC Comics, into the parks, renaming Popeye's Seaport to Looney Tunes Seaport, added a show in the vacant former Nightmare at Phantom Cave building called the Batman Thrill Spectacular and Hydro Force, Pipeline Plunge, Riptide Run and Torpedo Rapids were removed from Barracuda Bay and Scrambler replaced Cinema 2000. The midway stage was added to replace the boat tag game and The Emporium gift shop opened in Lasso's old location, Crazy Quilt was removed and replaced with Lasso. Premier Parks formed in 2000, assuming the name "Six Flags Inc." and adding new attractions. The next major attractions installed the Twister in 2000 and Shipwreck Falls in 2002, replacing the old Cascade Canyon water slides on the east side of Barracuda Bay as well as Slingshot behind the 'Cuda Falls water slides; and the Tornado in 2005.

Troubled times
2006 was a year of turmoil for Six Flags and its parks. For the 2006 season, Six Flags moved the Big Kahuna, a family-sized waterslide, from Six Flags AstroWorld to Darien Lake and also moved the Batman The Escape roller coaster from Astroworld into storage at Darien Lake, with possible plans to build it. They also added an opportunity to meet with the entire Justice League at the park. Only a month into the season, however, Six Flags began pulling back the Justice League from Darien Lake and announced Darien Lake, along with eight other parks, was being considered for sale. Many parks throughout the chain, not just those for sale, also experienced numerous changes and cutbacks throughout the summer. In October 2006, after shortened operating hours and seasons, Six Flags officially announced the parks were being offered for sale as a package. Paul Snyder stated in a radio interview he would have considered purchasing Darien Lake from Six Flags if they allowed the parks to be sold individually. In January 2007, Six Flags announced a potential sale of seven of the parks to a new company, PARC 7F (officially called PARC Management). Six Flags chose to retain two parks it had originally considered for sale.

PARC Management/CNL Lifestyle (2007-2010)
In April 2007, Six Flags completed the sale of Darien Lake and six other parks to PARC Management. Upon completion of the sale, PARC entered into a fifty-year contract with CNL Income Properties, under which CNL purchased the properties from and lease them back to PARC for operation. Because of the timing of the final sale with respect to the park's opening, PARC was unable to make any major changes for the 2007 season. The biggest changes for the season were the addition of an all-new show, Le Grande Cirque, which replaced the Batman Thrill Spectacular, and the removal of all Six Flags-, Looney Tunes- and DC Comics-themed signage and references. In 2008, the park debuted the Orange County Choppers MotoCoaster, its first launched rollercoaster. A Zamperla Motocoaster coaster, it was the prototype that had been running outside Zamperla's factory in Italy. PARC pledged to lower admission prices that had risen under Six Flags ownership. Floodgate Falls was closed. In March 2010, Darien Lake expanded its current waterpark to Six Flags Hurricane Harbor (Darien Lake) (featuring several new attractions and a repaint of the 'Cuda Falls waterslide complex in Barracuda Bay), a new 16 ft lazy river called Flotation Station, Swirl City slide complex (with four new slides) and a kiddie wave pool called Lazy Days Lagoon. 2010 also brought about some minor park changes such as Viper being repainted with a black track, The Predator getting new trains and the addition of the Critter Chase in Adventure Isle replacing Raft Adventure. CNL subsequently announced that it had reached an agreement to terminate PARC's lease of Darien Lake and up to 17 other locations. The move was made after, according to their 2010 SEC filings, PARC defaulted on their lease obligations.

Herschend Family Entertainment/CNL Lifestyle (2011-2014)
In 2011, Herschend Family Entertainment assumed day-to-day operation and management of Darien Lake and Elitch Gardens. Rowdy's Ridge opened in 2012 with several family rides. For the 2013 season, Blast Off was placed in the newly rethemed Waterfront Boardwalk area, which included major renovations to rides like the Grand Carousel and the Giant Wheel, along with some new dining options. Laserblast received new improvements and was rebranded Ignite the Night. UFO and the 'Cuda Falls waterslides were closed and removed. The Scrambler ride returned after two years in storage.

Premier Parks, LLC (2014-2018)
Herschend Family Entertainment's lease ended after the 2014 season and was taken over by Premier Parks, LLC. New rides installed during this period include Rolling Thunder, a 72-foot Larson 22M Giant Loop; Brain Drain, a set of two body slides that drops riders through a trapdoor at high speeds; and Ripcurl Racer, a six-lane Proslide Kracken Racer. Following the 2016 season, CNL Lifestyle sold Darien Lake and 14 other amusement parks to EPR Properties. The park continued to be leased and operated by Premier Parks, with no immediate change in operations or staffing. Tantrum, a Gerstlauer Euro-Fighter coaster, opened for the 2018 season.

Six Flags/EPR Properties (2018-present)
In May 2018, Six Flags Entertainment Corporation acquired lease rights to operate the park, with the park remaining under the ownership of EPR Properties. Six Flags SkyScreamer, a Funtime Star Flyer, opened for the 2019 season. During this season, the park reverted to the Six Flags Darien Lake branding. For the 2020 season, it was announced that Wahoo Wave, a ProSlide waterslide, would be added to the newly re-named and re-themed Hurricane Harbor WaterPark.

However, the park was temporarily closed due to the COVID-19 pandemic (except for the campgrounds and Darien Square), with no timeframe from the state of New York on when theme parks can open. Despite this, the park announced on September 11, 2020, the park would remain closed and all season passes and tickets would be carried over to the 2021 season.

Thrill rides
Many of the rides manufactured by Huss Park Attractions were installed as part of a deal with Huss to use Darien Lake as a North American showcase for Huss's new rides in the early 1980s.

Kids rides
Adventure Land for Kids contained all kiddie rides from 1988 through 1996 when it was replaced by Beaver Brothers Bay (previously called Popeye's Seaport, Looney Tunes Seaport and Adventure Isle) with all new rides, exclusively from Zamperla. The Tiny Trio was a set of older kiddie rides from Adventure Land located near Mind Eraser. In 2012, the trio was expanded into Rowdy's Ridge. The Bay is located on an island surrounded by the midway originally formed by Treasure Island Mini-Golf.

Entertainment
All show venues listed here are included with price of admission.

Fright Fest
The original Six Flags Fright Fest was an annual event held at the end of the operating season (Weekends in October, typically) from 1998 to 2006, which celebrated Halloween. Fright Fest added new areas to the park (Bloodstone Hollow, a free haunted graveyard and town; and Brutal Planet, an upcharge haunted house) and different shows than the regular season (Dead Man's Party in The Grande Theater and Laser Spooktacular at the Lakeside Amphitheatre.) When the park was sold to PARC Management in 2007, the event was rebranded as "Fall Family Fun Fest," adding family oriented areas such as hay mazes and pumpkin painting in addition to the haunted house. During this event, admission to the park was free, with individual charges for each ride and attraction. A re-branded FrightFest returned in 2008 with similar elements to the former Six Flags Fright Fest and additional new elements such as the Fright Night Field Trip, a bus ride through the haunted campgrounds. (However, the event's name had a lack of space between the words "Fright" and "Fest" in order to steer clear of any legal conflict with Six Flags.) The Haunted House and the Trick or Treat Trail also returned from previous years. Fright Fest was removed from Darien Lake in 2015 and replaced by Harvest Fest. The Halloween-themed event returned to Darien Lake in 2018 under the Six Flags branding.

Magic of Lights
In August 2021, the park unveiled a new Christmas lights display that would be taking place at the park during the upcoming 2021 holiday season. It ran from November 19, 2021, through January 2, 2022. It is a 1.25-mile drive-thru holiday light display extravaganza running through the park. This event was free to all current Season Pass Holders and Members. It did not return in 2022 based on the website.

Harvest Fest
In 2015, Darien Lake replaced their fall events with a more family-friendly event named Harvest Fest. Although this idea was attempted before with Fall Family Fun Fest, here rides were included with admission and less focus was put on scary attractions. Instead of upcharge haunts, hay rides and crafts for children were included with admission. Food trucks, craft beers and other vendors were made available to offset lower staffing during the offseason. Also, the schedule of the season was shortened to end in September, rather than the end of October. In 2018 and 2019 the season was extended through October, this event took place on weekends in September until Fright Fest started. This event didn’t take place during the 2021 or 2022 seasons.

Past entertainment
Former entertainment venues within the park.

Lodge on the Lake Hotel
In 1998, Premier Parks made a major investment to the property with the park's first on-site hotel, designed with a North Woods theme. The $12 million Lodge on the Lake Hotel opened with 161 hotel rooms, two suites and an outdoor heated pool. A few months later, the similarly themed Beaver Brothers Cafe opened as a full-service restaurant offering breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Campgrounds
The campground and picnic area offers campsites, approximately half of which are equipped with park-owned RVs and cabins.

Darien Square
Located within the campgrounds which includes; a General Store, 2 restaurants, a gift shop, arcade and lounge, laundry and the campground Office.

Darien Lake Performing Arts Center
The Darien Lake Performing Arts Center is an outdoor music venue on the park grounds.

Ignite the Night COLORBLAST
Concerts were formerly held at the Laser Stage, also known as the Lakeside Amphitheater. A pool was added in front of the stage as part of the Ignite the Night laser show.

Incidents

 * On July 26, 1987, lightning killed three campers sleeping in tents on the campground.
 * On May 16, 1999, a 365 lb (165 kg) guest who had been unable to properly secure his lap bar was ejected from Superman – Ride of Steel as the car went over a camel-hump hill. He fell approximately 9 ft, sustaining serious injuries. He was awarded US$3.95 million in damages. Seatbelts and an extra brake segment before the final hill were added to the coaster after the incident.
 * On September 6, 2009, the body of William Sutherland, a Pennsylvania resident who had been reported missing the day before, was found in a park lake.
 * On July 8, 2011, James Hackemer, an Iraq War veteran who had lost both legs in a 2008 roadside bomb attack, fell to his death from the Ride of Steel. The accident was attributed to operator error.

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