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KIA NAME MEANS " GEAR" IN KOREAN LANGUAGE. NO RELATIONSHIP WITH KOREAN-SINO WORD OR RISING OF THE EAST/ASIA. KIA COMPANY DOES NOT USE CHINESE CHARACTER TO DESCRIBE COMPANY LOGO. IN KOREAN WE DO NOT USE " R" PRONUNCIATION. WE DROP THE R SOUNDS. KIA LOGO MEANS KOREAN MEANING THE WORD "GEAR". PLEASE CORRECT INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The text was claiming that browser problems would occur if visiting a Korean auto manufacturer web site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.165.120.66 (talk) 09:10, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

 * I know this comment is 14 years old, but for any editor 14 years later who sees this: Kia literally said that it comes from the Sino-Korean word (see the 2 citations citing official Kia websites on Etymology section). Cobblebricks (talk) 18:36, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

I always thought, KIA meant GEAR. KIA = GEAR. KIA does sound like GEAR.

The Logo
KIA MEANS " GEAR" IN KOREAN. KOREAN DO NOT USE "R" PRONUNCIATION. KOREAN WE DROP THE "R" SOUND. NO RELATIONSHIP WITH KOREAN-SINO WORD. COMPANY DO NOT USE CHINESE CHARACTER DESCRIBE LOGO. PLEASE CORRECT INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

The logo appears clearly as ΚΙΛ... That would be pronounced as KILL... Should the page be moved to "Kill Motors", since Unicode article titles don't work on the English Wikipædia?

I wonder if any of their customers know both the Greek alphabet and English..? Κσυπ Cyp    06:03, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)

While appearing as such, the Logo's really just a stylied 'KIA'. MardukZero 18:20, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

KIA means 'rising asia'

content from KIA
This was in the article KIA. Maybe some of this can be incorporated here? Rvollmert 12:34, 2004 Aug 28 (UTC)

 * KIA motors was found in 1944 as an industry of bicycle parts manufactures in Seoul, south Korea. KIA took its current name 1951 (from earlier name Kyungsung Precision Industry).

 * KIA produced Korea's first bicycle 1951, first motor cycle 1961, first truck 1962, first gasoline engine in 1973, and October 1974 country's first motor car, Brisa. KIA was taken over by Hyundai Business Group in 1998.

Stub?
Is this article still short enough to be considered a stub? Most stubs are far shorter than this. Alex July 9, 2005 06:04 (UTC)

Does Kia Motors Europe really have a website?? I think someone just assumed that address is legit.

Hyundai Automotive Group is not a parent company of Kia Motors Corporation(KMC). In fact, no such company exists. Hyundai Motor Company(HMC) and its affiliates including KMC are collectively called Hyundai Automotive Group. Detailed information on the relationships of the Group companies are available on the Hyundai Motor investor relations website.

http://ir.hyundai-motor.com/eng/index.html

Acronym
I always thought KIA was an acronym. Korean International Automobiles. 67.188.172.165 18:32, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
 * That is incorrect.
 * The word Kia has origins in the Chinese language.
 * ki is Chinese for "arise or come up out of" and the a stands for Asia. So Kia means to "arise or come up out of Asia".
 * http://www.kia.com/faq.php

Kia is a Korean word and doesn't come from the Chinese language. The Korean language is from Korea and has its own alphabet (26 characters).
 * It would be more correct to say that the name comes from Chinese characters, namely hanja, not from the Chinese language as that term is normally understood. The pronunciations gi/ki and  a are specific to the Korean language. See 起, 亞 -- Visviva 11:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

 * That may be. But Chinese characters can be called the Chinese language. It's the written language.
 * In any case, that is Kia's own definition of their own name so it must be the correct one when referring to Kia Motors.
 * Furthermore, "rising up" could just as easily be translated to mean "rebirth". It is derived so it does not have to be a literal translation!

"martial arts term"
the statement about "ki" also having a different meaning as a "martial arts term" is irrelevant here. "ki" is simply a latinization/transliteration. just because it happens to share a tranliteration with a totally different word, should not merit any significance here.

Peugeot 604 and Fiat 132
What about the licensed manufacture of Peugeot 604 and Fiat 132? Did that really happen? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dieselnutjob (talk • contribs) 18:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC).

Made in North Korea?!
According to Carfax, my Kia Rio was manufactured in "KOREA, DEMOCRATIC PE". Is this a mistake, or do they really have plants north of the border? Mtford 01:42, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Almost certainly a data-entry error. Not everybody knows which one is the "Republic" and which one is the "Democratic People's Republic."  -- Visviva 04:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hyundai/Kia do not have plant in north korea. hyundai/kia totally irrelevant to north korea. Also, Hyundai Group and Hyundai motor company are NOT same company. Kia is a part of Hyundai Kia Automotive Group. Hyundaiboy 09:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

No Kia is made in North Korea
Kia made in North Korea is DEFINITELY a mistake. There is ABSOLUTELY no Kia made in North Korean until now (2007). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buhin (talk • contribs) 18:35, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

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The result of the move request was: no consensus. Jenks24 (talk) 14:38, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Kia Motors → Kia – WP:COMMONNAME. Given that Kia redirects here, very few people refer to Kia as Kia Motors, and that neither is the full company name, I don't see why the Motors disambiguator is required. Luke no 94 (tell Luke off here) 15:28, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Kia Motors Corporation is the company's name. FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 22:27, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment should redirect to KIA (disambiguation) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
 * No, it shouldn't. If that was to happen, we'd be moving the disambiguation over to Kia, and there is a clear commonname argument for Kia pointing here. Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 10:43, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Support as per most other car brands. OSX (talk • contributions) 11:54, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Oppose proposed moved per the precedence set in Ford Motor Company, Hyundai Motor Company, etc., given that this article is about the company and not the brand (Toyota is the only exception I can find right now.) Weak support Kia Motors Corporation as mentioned above as this being the company's name. Steel1943  (talk) 15:21, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

 * These are not precedents, but more like excepts to the rule. Almost every other brand is referred to by the WP:Common name: Honda, Toyota, Suzuki, and Mazda, Holden, BMW, Porsche, Ferrari, Daihatsu. The only reason Ford and Hyundai are not at their common name is because there are other uses for the names "Ford" and "Hyundai". "Kia" redirects to Kia Motors anyway, so there is no other significant use for "Kia". OSX (talk • contributions) 08:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, Ford redirects to Ford Motor Company, so that page should be moved as well (it's something I've already looked at, but I decided to run this RM first to establish a bit more of a precedent on a page where I view there to be less argument against the move.) The comparison to Hyundai here by Steel1943  is not a fair one; the Hyundai article contains information on the former parent company of Hyundai Motor Company.  Luke no 94  (tell Luke off here) 09:47, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Due to this information, I've struck out part of my statement. Steel1943  (talk) 14:18, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

 * Support as proposed, for the same reasons (WP:CONCISE) Red Slash 04:29, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose: This company is definitely not the primary topic for the word "kia". See Kia (disambiguation). Sawol (talk) 04:58, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose due to ambiguity, per Sawol. Noted earlier comments re: "clear commonname argument for Kia pointing here", "no other significant use for 'Kia, but I'm not sure it is that clear, and a case could be made that Kia should be the dab page. – Wdchk (talk) 14:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

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Kia Motors → Kia – The company just recently had dropped the 'Motors' from its name, to just Kia Corporation or simply Kia. Andra Febrian (talk) 08:16, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * See KIA for a long list of other meanings. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:15, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Currently Kia (disambiguation) redirects to KIA, and it seems to me that it should be the other way around. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 17:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Curiously enough, Kia redirects to Kia Motors. Andra Febrian (talk) 09:23, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Support, because, as Andra Febrian says, "Kia" (lower case) already redirects here anyway, and Kia the car manufacturer seems the most relevant, source-covered topic for the name (i.e. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC). The only usage it may contend with it's "Killed in action" as it's a widely used abbreviation, although it may be kept at "KIA" (upper case). If the move proposal fails, I think the article should be moved to "Kia (company)".

 * There are no more complications that I can think of, as it seems non-controversial at first glance, because Kia was already a WP:COMMONNAME for the car manufacturer, at least in English-speaking countries. --Urbanoc (talk) 12:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

 * Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 19:04, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support – I notice the only other subject specifically called "Kia" is "Kia (magic)", and even though I am not a big fan of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, this clearly takes precedence over the other subject, so if this fails I would support "Kia (company)" as well. JE98 (talk) 16:34, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Support per nom. | MK17b |  (talk)  17:48, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

"Stylised as ΚΙΛ" removed
I've removed the section claiming the name is "stylised as ΚΙΛ". There's a difference between stylisations which are used in textual form and those which are merely graphical flourishes or font choices.

I've never seen any reputable source refer to the company as "ΚΙΛ" (i.e. using lambda in place of "A") in purely textual form.

It's rather obviously meant to be a graphically stylised letter "A" and as per MoS: Trademarks: Indicating stylizations:-

 * [We conventionally add "stylized as" for] the stylized version (which may include simple stylization, like capitalization changes, decorative characters, or superscripting, but not [..] attempts to emulate font choices, or other elaborate effects).

This falls into the latter category, so it was removed.

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Service relating customer quarries
Sir, We own a kia sonet vehicle purchased just 8 months back. On 10th December my wife was in  Bangalore along with my daughter in law travelling in our kia car. The driver was Mr. T. Satyanarayana driving in Hosur road in Bangalore. Suddenly an Auto Rickshaw over took our car from left side hitting in the front corner on the left side and ran away. A message to this effect has been sent to the kia showroom in Kadapa where the vehicle was purchased. And on 12 the December we have handed over the car in the show room at Kadapa. In turn they took the vehicle to Tirupati show room and today the service personal are attending to it. My request is, we are senior citizens both husband and wife age 72 and 64 respectively. We are suffering from multiple health problems .We need the vehicle for commuting to the hospitals and other essential works. The accident occurred on 10th Dec, it was handed over to the KIA showroom on 12 the, today it is 18th and the repair work didn't bigun. No doubt that kia is an excellent vehicle, however the service seems to be very poor. Especially for the senior citizens this experience is really hard to digest. Request you to attend the work of the senior citizens with courtesy and promptness. Thank you, Thodime Malla Reddy. For. Sangireddy Uma Devi. Reg owner. 2405:201:C000:7242:E050:61D:C05B:23A3 (talk) 10:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

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No mention of TikTok theft issue
Why no mention of the TikTok theft issue involving Kia abd Hyundai 2601:19E:4180:F530:65B7:D90F:7195:97A3 (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:Kim (Korean surname)

History
Someone with IP address 138.162.8.57 consistently vandalizes the origin part of this article. The person keeps adding a text that claims Mongolian origin of the surname. Even if that claim is partially true, it only dates back to the 13th century at the most. The origin of the surname is way older than the 13th-century claim. According to Britannica, we can trace back to 42 CE and chronicles officially record it in 668. Some previous editors blamed Koreans for the vandalism. However, it is not reasonable to think that Korean people deny its origin in Korean kings, which can be backed up by firm historical sources while arguing unsourced 13th-century Mongolian/Chinese origin. Please stop manipulating the history of Korea and its historical origin. The article should be protected from any further unsourced vandalism or manipulation.

DON'T OVER SIMPLIFY KOREAN KIM CLAN CAME FROM CHINA. KOREAN " KIM" CLAN ORIGIN IS IN NORTH KOREA/ MANCHURIA REGIONS. WHICH " MANCHURIA" OR " MANCHURIAN PEOPLE AND CULTURE" WAS NOT PART OF CHINA OR HAN-CHINESE. KOREANS AND MANCHURIANS SHARE ALOTS OF SIMILIARITY BETWEEN THE TWO BECAUSE KOREANS, MONGOLIANS, MANCHURIANS ARE ALL " ALTAIC" TRIBAL PEOPLE. KOREAN LAST NAME " KIM" IS NOT POPULAR NAME WITHIN HAN-CHINESE SURNAMES. IN CHINA " KIM " OR " JIN" IS COMMON AMONG KOREAN-CHINESE, HALF KOREAN-CHINESE, OR MANCHURIANS LIVING IN NORTHEASTERN PART OF NORTH KOREA/ MANCHURIA BORDER.

PLEASE CORRECT THE MISINFORMED INFORMATION. KIM LAST NAME DOES NOT DERIVE FROM CHINA. ( FAR COMPLICATED IT MAY SEEMS NOT THAT SIMPLE ORIGIN FROM CHINA!!!!!) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koreankimklan (talk • contribs) 02:31, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, it does seem like original research as the claim made could not be found in reliable sources. I will delete the section unless sources are given and verified. --DandanxD (talk) 13:40, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Could we get an explanation of why so many Koreans are called Kim? (And why nearly all the rest are called Pak or Li). Adam 05:29, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * At some point in the dusty or not-so-dusty past, the majority of people (i.e., the peasantry) did not have family names, just as was the case in Europe a few hundred years ago. When families starting taking names, there was a tendency to choose a well-known name of an aristocratic family (since they already had family names, and you could, I guess, strive for illustriousness by association).  Kim/Gim, Pak/Park/Bak, and Lee/Rhee/Yi are all dynastic family names (from various different kingdoms: see Rulers of Korea), and so were popular choices.  Wang, on the other hand, was also a dynastic name (the ruling family of Goryeo had the name), but an episode occurred early in the reign of King Taejo of Joseon in which, in a rage to suppress perceived malevolent influence over the new government by the deposed royal family, Taejo had most Wangs in the country killed; thus, Wang is now not a very common family name.

 * The Wang bit I know for certain; as for the rest, I'm pretty sure I've read this explanation in a book somewhere, but I wouldn't add it to the main article until I'd checked my references. --Sewing 15:57, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Actually, as it happens, the external link explaining the clan structure that I added to the article also explains why there are so many Kims, Parks, and Lees. --Sewing 16:55, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for that explanation, Sewing. I think some text to that effact ought to be added to the article, because it is always the first question westerners ask about Korean names. Adam 02:46, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * Agreed. In fact, that might be a better point to base the article off of, as it seems to make a lot of assumptions as it is, despite having been modified a lot.Editfromwithout (talk) 06:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed the sentence, "Despite being the most common name in Korea, not all Kims are related to each other, not even in the most remote sense.". How can one be sure that two individuals are not related to each other at all? From a scientific point of view, all humans have a common ancestor (also, most major religions hold this as well—as far as I know). Is there any evidence that some of these people have no relation whatsoever? — Knowledge Seeker দ 03:48, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

List of everyone
Surely a Wikipedia article is not the place to list everyone who shares a common name? I have just cleared up Kim, the disambig page, which was even worse. I suggest removing the list, and tellign readers to search for the full name of the person they want. BrainyBabe 13:17, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Gimhae, Gyeongju, and Andong
I'm pretty sure the number for the Gimhae Kims (listed at 26,300) is wrong. But before I actually edit the page itself, I wanted some recognition/confirmation of this. Also, a noted member of the Gimhae Kims includes, from what I am told, the first Roman Catholic saint from Korea, St. Andrew Dae-gun Kim. Again, I think we need confirmation, and probably, from what I can tell, a little cleaning up.Ecthelion83 (talk) 04:08, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Gimhae, Gyeongju, and Andong
Yeah, I think Andong and Gimhae have been mixed up. That paragraph about Andong definitely describes the Gimhae clan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.188.90.211 (talk) 21:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The Word Gyeongju Contains Kim...?
The first paragraph seems to be saying that the hanja "金," normally pronounced geum, is instead pronounced gim when it is used as a surname or when it appears in place names. It then purports to go on to give examples of place names that include that character, and lists "慶州" among them, which is apparently pronounced gyeongju. "Gyeongju" does not seem to contain kim or geum, nor does "慶州" seem to contain "金." Am I missing something? — Modus Ponens (talk) 16:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * An anon editor added Gyeongju to the list. Perhaps he was confused about the meaning of the sentence in the introductory paragraph, which is about the pronunciation of 金 as "gim" in place names. It is not about places where Kim clans originated, which include Gyeongju and Gimhae as stated later in the article. I've remove Gyeongju from the sentence-- Joshua Say "hi" to me!What I've done? 16:30, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Rephrase please?
Admittedly English isn't my first language, but I think that "Two clans have been set as the main Andong exist." isn't proper English. At least there must be an easier to understand way to express the thought behind it. 87.156.193.204 (talk) 13:30, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2017
Noteable people: Kim Tae-hyung Kimtaehyunglover (talk) 16:35, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  JTP (talk • contribs) 19:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

Someone with IP address 138.162.8.57 consistently vandalizes the origin part of this article. The person keeps adding a text that claims Mongolian origin of the surname. Even if that claim is partially true, it only dates back to the 13th century at the most. The origin of the surname is way older than the 13th-century claim. According to Britannica, we can trace back to 42 CE and chronicles officially record it in 668. Some previous editors blamed Koreans for the vandalism. However, it is not reasonable to think that Korean people deny its origin in Korean kings, which can be backed up by firm historical sources while arguing unsourced 13th-century Mongolian/Chinese origin. Please stop manipulating the history of Korea and its historical origin. The article should be protected from any further unsourced vandalism or manipulation It's semi-protected right now, but if you see the previous activities of the person with ip address 138.162.8.57 and others, there has been persistent efforts to vandalize this article. The person came back to add this unhistorical claim after a temporal protection was lifted. Please consider more permanent and effective means to protect it from this person or a group of people that have anti-Korean agenda. After all, the article refers to the "Korean Surname" rather than "Kim as a Chinese surname."

Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2018
j 207.99.246.76 (talk) 20:23, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — KuyaBriBri Talk 20:40, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 September 2018
In the Infobox surname, please remove:

 * | pronunciation = Kim, Gim (.f gimantane)

(which is unclear whether the pronunciation is supposed to be "Kim" as in "Kimberly" or "Gym" as in "Gymnasium", and the Internet has never heard of the word "gimantane") and replace with:

 * | pronunciation =

A source for the IPA pronunciation: Of course not everyone can read IPA in general, but these particular IPA symbols are pretty intuitive, and the template generates a link to Help:IPA/Korean for anyone who's still confused. Thanks 59.149.124.29 (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

 * Yes check.svg Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:36, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2018
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Kim Jae-hwan, participated in Produce 101 Season 2 and member of South Korean boy band Wanna One

Dubudubuu (talk) 18:06, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  ♪♫Al ucard   16♫♪  18:11, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I wanna delete 'equivalent' in the 'jin' sentence in see also in Kim (Korean surname). not only 'kim', other korean surnames document too.
Hello, I am Joseph Seo. I see Korean surnames in English Wikipedia for interests. But, some documents of korean surname is weird for me. honestly confusing. the reason why I confuse is the Chinese surname is in korean surname documents. We, Koreans used the hanja before the 15th century, chinese character for korean surname to write. But Today, Koreans do not use hanja to write in most cases. Koreans use hangul. But I feel confusing in 'see also'. Because I never thought Kim and Park are equivalent to chinese surnames, 'Jin' and "Pu'. Well, the meaning is equal. But the pronunciation sound is clearly different. it means Word is different too in korean from chinese. So Chinese surnames and Korean surnames are not equivalent for me as I think 'equivalent'. and the documents of korean surnames feel different for me. Feels like some korean surnames include Chinese surnames. so I d like to standardize the documents of korean surnames in my way(Anyway, it it personal request). The way is All of korean surnames are not equivalent in chinese surnames. like Yun-That is correct document for me. 'The Korean surname Yun or Youn has no relations with the Doãn surname of Vietnam or Yin of China.' Most of Korean surnames have no relation in chinese surnames. We have own surname, not equivalent chinese surname. Choi-I prefer it too. Just add the chinese surname with same chinese character in the document. Id like to edit some sentences in some documents of Korean surname. Seo-This include a personal thing to me. Seo is absolutely not related to chinese surname. it is unfair to write 'related' to use the same chinese character. and the pronunciation is different too. I d like to delete the sentence 'For the related Chinese surname, see Xú.' Kim- In 'See Also', Jin, the equivalent Chinese surname. Can you delete 'equivalent' in this sentence? Park- In 'See Also', Pu, the equivalent Chinese surname. Can you delete 'equivalent' in this sentence?

We used Chinese characters to write korean pronunciation before. and the pronunciation is different from the Chinese mandarin language. We have own writing system, 'hangul'. and the word is different from the Chinese language. So I request to delete 'equivalent' or 'related' chinese surname in see also or the upper sentence in the documents of korean surnames.

 * They're related to the Chinese surnames. Even if they weren't, you still use the Chinese character 金 and it means "gold" just like in Chinese. You seem to have a general problem that Chinese characters are used at all. Hanja is an integral part of the Korean languages, and many words are of Chinese origin. --82.207.237.142 (talk) 18:35, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

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