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Talk:September 25

--mav 00:20, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hug a Vegetarian Day
Even if it's a fake holiday, could this be added as a note of interest?

Shigeru Miyamoto
I think that the entry about Shigeru Miyamoto is a little bit out of place as something important or to be considered as relevant compared to historical entries.

This is truth.

-- october 1 2005 - 20:20 pm

Halo 3
Why should the Halo 3 release be removed from this page? It is a huge event for video games and will likely sell extremely well. Halo3 is the most anticipated game release for 2007. So to whoever is reverting it please post your reason please. L CuRtiS 22:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * First, it is a future event. Those don't go here no matter how important they are.  Second, it is a video game.  See here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * According to the link you provided, the sections for births and deaths should also be removed. So should some of the events. L CuRtiS 01:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Halo 3 will Be there either you quit pissing yourself or go kill yourself let some people live in a fantasy you ass.

 * Please remain civil or you will be blocked. On September 25 Halo 3 can be added, it is going to be more notable than some of the events on the page (bearing in mind that perhaps they don't belong but I'm not very familiar with the policy regarding date articles). The thing is though, it has not been released yet, perhaps the game will be a complete flop, it's highly unlikely but possible so we should wait until there has been an event before adding it. Note also that the link provided (Notability on a global scale over time) is not a policy or guideline.  James086 Talk |  Email 12:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

 * "Halo3 is the most anticipated game release for 2007." - That's opinion, not fact. What about The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass? Or how about movie releases? Should Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End be added as well? Here's some more notable events for today: GM workers begin strike after deadline passes, Anger at Iran leader's NY speech, FBI: Violent Crimes in U.S. Approaching 5-Year Peak. The fact is, it's fancruft. I didn't put the final episode of Gilmore Girls on that date list. Just because it happens to be important to you does not mean it's notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, then how is this: Halo 3 will be the LARGEST REVENUE GROSSING MEDIA EVENT IN HISTORY. Bigger than any Movie, TV show, Book, Game, pay-per-view, ANYTHING MEDIA. It happened with the release of Halo 2, It will happen again with Halo 3. Tomorrow, Halo 3 will go into the record books, and into this calender, and there is nothing you or anybody else can do about it (except Jimbo Whales, who could simply shut the site down :) 68.143.88.2 18:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

And yes, being the best/biggest makes it notable. BURRRRRRRRN 68.143.88.2 18:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Yes, there is something s/he can do about it. If there is consensus not to enter Halo 3 then it will be kept out of the list. I would argue though that the release of Halo 3 is more notable than the 73 000 workers striking. However, even though the game is out, there are no sources to say that it's notable. When it breaks records then it may be notable. I agree that the inclusion is on the edge of what should/shouldn't and until it's clear with all parties, it should default to "not included" in the article/list. James086 Talk |  Email 23:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * An event is rarely notable on the day that it occurs. Only on reflection and in historical context can an event be evaluated as notable (in most cases - a notable exception is the assassination of a president).  Remember that newsworthy does not mean noteworthy.  Not all records are notable.  In 50 years will anyone care that this event occurred?  Absolutely not.  I also often see the argument "But what about all these other events, surely this is more important than those."  That is a vapid argument and simply indicates ignorance of the fact that one can only address one issue at a time and the newest issues always get the attention first.  71.255.161.120 00:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * That's true (see my first comment) and I'm starting to doubt whether the release belongs. Yes it has broken records but it will not hold up to the 50 year test. I'm a big fan of the series though so I'm not exactly neutral when it comes to Halo, not the best quality when trying to write a neutral encyclopedia. James086 Talk |  Email 08:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * "In 50 years will anyone care that this event occurred? Absolutely not." Ummmm...yeah... Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. You're argument is COMPLETELY FLAWED because your point is based off a bastardization of policy itself.  How do you know nobody will care?  Did you gaze 50 years into the future?  Does Wikipedia policy state "...Well, if we can assume it is going to be notable in the future, by god!!  Lets just stick it in there!!"  No, it doesn't.  You CAN NOT use a crystal ball argument on Wikipedia, it just doesn't make sense.  Oh, and BTW, Halo 2 is 4-5 years old now, and it is STILL being used as a case study in many studios and universities.  It is also STILL the MOST PLAYED GAME ON XBOX LIVE...EVEN AFTER 4 YEARS (not surprisingly, as of yesterday Halo 3 is the most played game on Xbox).  Next time, make your argument logical.  68.143.88.2 15:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

it is clearly illustrated in the policy on this that, dates pertaining to individual video games are not notable enough. therefore i am deleting it again. i will watch this. This may need an admin Ragingbullfrog 09:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * it is clearly illustrated in the policy that...individual video games are not notable enough. Wow, thats news to me.  Wholly crap, that changes everything...except...  POLICY SAYS NOTHING LIKE THAT.  I suggest you read before you make comments.  Besides, it's NOT THE GAME FOR THE LAST TIME AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, it is notable because of the economic impact it had in the industry.  It caused Microsoft stock to increase!  A freakin' video game!  Do you have any idea how significant that is, that a single video game release can make a significantly positive increase in a companies stock the size of Microsoft's in it's 1st 24 hours of release? OMG, open your eyes people. 68.143.88.2 15:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I'm going to try and explain this in language as simple as possible... We are not asking that the game be included because it is, in fact, a new released game. Ok, lets get that out of the way. Who cares about Halo 3 the game. The NOTABLE REASON, once again... NOTABLE (please read here if you don't understand) REASON to undeniably add it to the list is because it is meets one of these requirements "Largest, biggest, most significant" of a given industry. It is, once again, the largest revenue grossing media release in the HISTORY OF THE PLANET. No other form of any other media (e.g. movies, books, video games, etc) has ever acquired more revenue in the first 24 hours of release; over $125,000,000.00 dollars. THAT IS FUCKING HUGE!!! So, please don't be a POV pushing, I-don't-want-it-on-the-list-because-I-don't-play-video-games, biased because you think your "mature" contributor. Just because it's a "video game" does not take away from it's WORLDWIDE SIGNIFICANT IMPACT on the industry, and on the economy in general. Additionally, please read this essay. Thank you 68.143.88.2 14:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * For someone who "doesn't give a fuck", you certainly have said a lot about your opinion. -- 12.116.162.162 17:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

please calm down, a consensus requires more than just your opinion, from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_on_a_global_scale_over_time#What_Is_Not_Notable

"What Is Not Notable
 * In general, events that would not be of interest globally/that do not have an impact on more than one country.

Births and deaths (except assassinations) Future events - this is speculation Dates that pertain to television programs, movies, books, video games, etc. - this is not notable on a global scale " read the last line whilst i dont disagree the release of halo 3 has a massive global impact on the industry as you say, that does not mean it ahs a golbal impact in general

and i am an avid video gamer but i just dont think this event is as notable in human history as the other things noted on this page15:26, 26 September 2007 (UTC) Ragingbullfrog 15:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Look, I'm calmed down. This is just driving me crazy.  For example, you say "this is not notable on a global scale", then you say, "halo 3 has a massive global impact on the industry as you say".  Do you not see how contradictory this sounds?  It did have an impact on a global scale...economically.  Some of the other markets, Europe for example, have not had time to develope examples via press releases and other news media, but it will come.  There is no denying something is a "global impact" if it generates that much money.  When the final figures are in, they are saying $155,000,000 on release day.  That is more than any Spiderman movie grossed over an entire weekend!  Did you know there is also more media tie-ins than any other media event in history?  Halo 3 "leased" a NASCAR with a new paintjob.  Pepsi Co. invented a new "gaming drink" themed Halo 3.  Microsoft spent more money on TV advertising than the GDP of the 19 lowest preforming emerging countries!

GameStop fired over 75 employees for playing the game early. Over 10,000 stores across the United States and 600 across Europe opened up at midnight on release day to supply the massive demand. In Europe, they opened at midnight! I can't find a single other event where that has happened over there. Halo 3 sold over 3,000,000 pre-orders, at a minimum of $60.00 each. That is $180,000,000.00 in just pre-orders alone minimum! Xbox live servers all over Europe and in same places in the United States failed due to usage volume last night directly caused by Halo 3. All Internet traffic slowed 0.8% due to the massive bandwidth from Halo 3 online matches. How can this not be notable? 68.143.88.2 15:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

'global impact' is different from 'global impact to the industry', that is my point of course halo 3 has an article, and i believe that the realease of halo 3 is probably notable enough to have it own article. however this doesn't affect human history like the other items in this list such as wars, disasters etc. For example how much effect did this event have on people living in third world countries where no-one has a 360? None for them this is a non-event for that reason it is not notable enough for this page, but of course it is notable enough for other parts of wikipedia

you could be right about this whole thing, the economic impact of the release was massive but i'm just not sure if that qualifies it for historical notability. For example fluctuations in prices of commodities like oil occur and have massive impact on the economy but are not notable enough for this page because they happen all the time, much like massive media/videogame releases. I just want others opinions

note i am not reverting your entry until other people give their opinion, out of good faith to you, and to prevent a pointless edit war Ragingbullfrog 17:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, thank you for the bid of good faith. I removed the reference on the list until we have other peoples opinions. It is not fair that I include it on the list simply because I'm stubborn :) and if I am to truly show good faith, I feel I should revert myself out of respect towards your opinion. So, the consensus as of now (basically you and myself) should be to wait until other editors are involved before adding it to the list.  Agreed? 68.143.88.2 17:21, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

yeah agreed im not editing this, i think i will just watch it, although it seems the argument has sort of exploded below this post Ragingbullfrog 19:56, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * My reason for "suggesting" other events on the same day was to establish that there are certainly things that are more relevant and notable on a global scale, having more of an impact on people's lives than whether or not they play a video game. It has not radically changed the way video games are played. As far as the midnight release -- umm... Harry Potter? A midnight release itself should not be the determining factor of something being added to the list. It should be: is it notable? I don't know of a single instance where it made a top story on any new program, or above-the-fold on a newspaper. In 3 years, when the next killer app is released, Halo 3 will fall by the side of the road. As far as the "FUCKING HUGE"-ness of the sales -- the figures are flawed, since many of the sales were pre-ordered and pre-paid. That is -- copies of Halo 3 were sold before September 25, but not released until then. Using the figures from 68.143.88.2, that's $180 million in pre-orders. That means all those sales did not happen on September 25. I hate to burst your overshield, but that's not a 24-hour record. "Pepsi Co. invented a new 'gaming drink' themed Halo 3" - That's nothing new. (Remember the 7-Elevens-turned-Kwik-E-Marts for the Simpsons movie?) It is illogical to say something is notable because the marketing people say it is. That's the purpose of marketing - to get you to believe that you need something that you don't and to buy it. -- 12.116.162.162 17:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Until we get actual sales figures from a source other than Microsoft reporting day-of-release sales and not pre-orders, it is inaccurate to say that it broke sales records. -- 12.116.162.162 18:09, 26 September

2007 (UTC)

^^^^BTW, Microsoft is a publicly traded company. By law they have to release accurate figures (duh) 68.143.88.2 18:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

'''Wow! Great points! Now lets see why they don't matter and/or just aren't relevant:'''

 * 1) Pre-orders are not the entire balance. They cost $5.00.  You can't pay for the pre-order before it is released...hence "pre-order", not "pre-sale".  Check your sources before making up new information.  Basically, '''all those sales DID happen on September 25th".

 * 2) Name once instance where Harry Potter was sold at mid-night in Europe.

 * 3) "In three years when the next killer app is release halo 3 will fall by the side of the road". Ummm...Halo 1 and Halo 2 are STILL the most played games on Xbox, the latter is the most played game on Xbox live.  Halo 1 = 6 years old, Halo 2 = 3 years old.  Obviously history doesn't repeat itself with your level of thinking...which is basically...flawed.  Please add common sense.  If Halo 3 shares the same success as it's predecessors (which is highly likely), then it will be the most played game for a very, very long time.

 * 4) Give the Newspapers time, Halo 3 will be front page of the business section -- watch! Just like Halo 2 which did $125,000,000.00 it's opening day.

 * 5)"certainly things that are more relevant and notable on a global scale"...hmmmmm. Anyone living on planet earth experienced a 0.8% slower connection to the internet as a direct result of massive Xbox live Halo 3 play.  This is not notable....how?

 * 6) $180,000,000.00 in pre-orders itself if notable. There has not been an instance, not even close (except Halo 2), with that revenue in pre-orders.  I've looked everywhere!

 * 7) Name 1 event that happened on a September 25 that tops this? The polygamist that raped 3 girls?  Some workers went on strike? Wow, that effects people over in Asia.

 * 8) "(Remember the 7-Elevens-turned-Kwik-E-Marts for the Simpsons movie?)"...I don't get it, you can drink those? I don't even know what a 7-Eleven is, I know what the Pepsi Co. is.  I know, lets take Pepsi Co. public information in a few months on the revenue generated by this new Halo drink, and compare it to the total revenue generated by 7-Eleven.  I wonder which will be higher?

 * 9) Please provide a reason not POV or opinion, and then I'll take you seriously. 68.143.88.2 18:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Let's see if you can follow me on this

1)You can pay for pre-order before the release date. That's why the store asks you how much money you want to put down for it. "Negative - this is just wrong. I work for Best Buy ( Store 052, Springfield, Missouri).  If you're that interested I'll scan and post a typical receipt of a pre-order.  Maximum is $5.00.  In fact, there isn't even a way to override the register to take more money.  The SKU is a $5.00 SKU.  Additionally, Basic rules of accounting state a depost, or pre-order is an "Open Sales Order", which is non-invoiceable.  Only invoices can count as a profitable outcome on a P&L statement. Business 101.  So, all these sales DID and WERE invoiced on September 25"

 * Gamestop lets you pay the full amount. I will grant you this though, since I cannot speak about Halo specifically, but I do know with any other game I had pre-ordered, there was the option of paying the full price at the time of pre-order.

2)Internet connections slowing 0.8%? Where did you get that figure from? And how can you possibly determine by fact that it was from Halo 3? "I'm trying to find my source, I remember reading it on USAToday maybe? I'll find it."

3) Just because nothing else significant happened does not mean Halo 3 gets on by default. If anything, nothing should be on the list. agree

4) Since you want a significant event - The President of Iran addressing the UN and the US delegation walking out just before he speaks. How's that for global? actually this is a good argument, however I think Halo 3 is more significant.

5) You misunderstood my point about 7-Eleven. Just as 7-Eleven was involved in marketing for the Simpsons movie, Pepsi was involved in marketing for Halo 3.

6) The purpose of marketing is to get people to buy a product by name recognition. The way this is achieved is by the use of advertising (TV, radio, magazines, etc.) and corporate sponsorship. For example, "Pepsi is the official soft drink of the NFL". (I'm not saying this is the case, it's just an example.

7) Because of that, you cannot use the amount of marketing to establish that it's notable. "well marketing = $$$, if Halo 3 most expensive advertising campaign in history, that would also make it notable. I'm not sure I understand your argument here?."

8) Any sales figures that I have read about have words like "projected" or "predicted" or some other word indicating it's not a solid figure. "Give it time"

9) "Name once instance where Harry Potter was sold at mid-night in Europe." England "*note Did you read your cite? It mentions nothing about going on sell at Midnight in Europe.  Also, the only paragraph what mentioned the word 'midnight' was in reference to the United States." -- 12.116.162.162 19:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * England is in Europe -- 12.116.162.162 19:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * And it says "midnight London time" -- 12.116.162.162 19:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

This is how Halo 3 will read

 * 2007 Halo 3 is released, generating more revenue in the first 24 hours than any other media event in history, including weekend box office blockbuster holiday films. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.143.88.2 (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

 * The entry isn't even grammatically correct. What does it mean? Only blockbuster films released at the box office on a holiday weekend? That's what it says. Or, does it mean "box office blockbuster, weekend, or holiday films?" -- 12.116.162.162 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Please, allow me to help you, I know you're having a hard time with all these words and stuff. What I mean is that historically, Holiday blockbuster films gross more revenue than any other time of year.  wat this meens is dat holoday movies are reel sucessfol. 68.143.88.2 18:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * But that's not what the entry says. Say what you mean. -- 12.116.162.162 19:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

request for comment on notability of Halo 3 release
request for comment on notability of Halo 3 release

Support for inclusion It should go in based on the discussion above. 68.143.88.2 14:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

not notable on the calendar. It's not a 24-hour record, since most of the sales are pre-paid pre-orders, which means the sale actually took place before Sept. 25. Not even notable on a global scale. It wasn't front page news or lead story on a news program. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 17:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm withdrawing my above comment, and changing my comment to include.

 * Additionally, Halo 2 is not on the November 9 calendar. Halo: Combat Evolved isn't on the calendar. The release of the XBox is though. Do you see a pattern? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 18:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

^^^Who care about a pattern? Is that what we base notability on now? Xbox release was not really significant. Halo 2 was significant until yesterday when Halo 3 was released. But yes, if I would have thought about it, I would have added Halo 2 release to the appropriate calender for being notable. (it lost its notability when Halo 3 out preformed the revenue aspect).
 * comment Then it's not notable if it will be outperformed in 3 years by something else. -- 12.116.162.162 19:01, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * ^^^^ hmmmmmm...has that happened yet? arguing a crystal ball case? 68.143.88.2 19:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * You're the one arguing a crystal ball, see above: "Give the Newspapers time, Halo 3 will be front page of the business section " -- 12.116.162.162 19:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * note Pre-selling is prohibited by law. The maximum is a $5.00 refundable deposit.  They are not "pre-paid". 68.143.88.2 18:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * cite the law -- 12.116.162.162 19:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * 1)How is pre-selling against the law
 * That's not the law. That's a "Terms of service". And it says nothing about pre-sales -- 12.116.162.162 19:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You're going to need to use a little common sense for this one. Halo 3 is Microsoft copyrighted.  Microsoft controls the release.  If a move/game/CD or anything copyrighted for that matter distributed to the public before the parent companies official release date, being the sole property of the said parent company, it violates copyright and/or user agreements in which violate U.S. copyright law.  There have been major fines for selling/distributing movies, books, games, etc before release dates.  Common sense... 68.143.88.2 19:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * BTW, you made a really good point here that I hadn't thought of in terms of pre-release. I had used the same argument (the copyright owner has the right to say if/when it is released) about emulators and ROMs, but I hadn't thought of it applying to things that haven't been released yet. -- 12.116.162.162 20:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks! I have a lot of experience with business related things.  There was a Best Buy in Oklahoma that was fined $10,000 for playing Finding Nemo on a Big Screen TV for picture demonstration purposes.  Also, we always get audited to ensure all counts of pre-release inventories are still in the store.  The only things where it really doesn't matter are electronic items, like digital cameras.  Even they have release dates, however there are either no penalties or they are rarely enforced if a store starts selling them early.
 * For distributing, but not for paying in advance for it. -- 12.116.162.162 19:45, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * You may be right about being able to pay for it in advance at GameStop. Still, you can't count an open sales order as an invoiced received until it's been invoiced (meaning the product has been delivered to the customer and can no longer be returned).68.143.88.2 19:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. I'll grant you that -- 12.116.162.162 19:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * 2)Examples of early release
 * What does that have to do with this? If it's illegal, why aren't they in jail? -- 12.116.162.162 19:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * 3)Why it’s notable 68.143.88.2 19:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * But not notable for the calendar page. -- 12.116.162.162 19:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

*comment, obviously this person User:12.116.162.162 is pushing some kind of anti-halo POV and should be ashamed. Hopefully in real life you don't have your difficulty level set above "easy". 68.143.88.2 18:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment You know, that's just it, I spend my entire time in "real life". -- 12.116.162.162 19:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Not noteworthy, yet Untill total sales figues of the release date are announced, the pre-orders are all this has to stand on. Although pre-orders alone may be enough to give it a place here; untill store sales figures are released I don't believe we should. Neobros 18:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Strong Include, and those opposed are going to feel extremely silly when the sales figures hit papers. Unless the largest single-day worldwide revenue-generating event in arts and entertainment history lacks notability to you. Certainly it should be more notable than U2 forming in a basement or some guy becoming the youngest formula one champion. Not to say these aren't notable, but be realistic here. Take your anti- video game bias somewhere else. ZG 21:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Strong include: Just loook at the numbers. Just.. look at them. şœśэїŝәқιￆṱᾅἻқￂ 05:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

 * Removed template because apparently we've already come to a consensus somehow. şœśэїŝәқιￆṱᾅἻқￂ 05:19, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

New edit point
For the record, all I'm saying is in a few days, if it does indeed turn out to be the largest revenue producing media release in history, that fact should make Halo 3 note worthy enough for the calender. I am NOT saying I want it added now (see the last edit on the article page, it was me removing another uses insertion of Halo 3). This would be an extraordinary event with global impact in many different areas. This this was a movie, I would feel the same about it, but it happens to be a video game. This is a turning point for Microsoft, and the video game industry will feel the ripple effect of this release for years to come. It will penetrate to other markets, for example Sony Pictures has announced rejuvenating the Halo movie if this launch goes as predicted. I just don't want the event downplayed because it's a video game. Like I said, lets give it a few days for final figures, and if it does what is predicted I think adding the release date of the #1 media release in history is notable for a calender. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.143.88.2 (talk) 20:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * And I now agree with you, and I apologize for any of my comments that were harsh. I see your point, and there are some things that I didn't understand, as far as the technicalities of when the sales are considered to have taken place. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 20:07, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * It's cool. I'm sorry for anything harsh I've said as well.  Just an FYI: you stand your ground well; I think I've developed carpal tunnel as a direct result of this talk page.  I'm still open minded, and will not make my final decision on weather or not I would like to see it included until the final figures post somewhere reliable.  In the mean time, if something comes up that is notable and should be discussed, I'll remain civil and maybe brush up on how not to be a dick :) 68.143.88.2 20:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Awesome :) I think I should too. At least make sure I have all my facts lined up before I go commenting on things. And you stand your ground well too. I'd be really surprised if the numbers don't meet or break the projections, and as the biggest media event in history, it should be included. Until the next big thing comes out hehe ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Hehe I just reminded myself of the part in Crimson Tide where there was a fight because one guy thought the Kirby Silver Surfer was awesome and thought the Moebius Silver Surfer was crap and the other guy was a Moebius fan :) -- 12.116.162.162 20:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The truth is that . People have done things just like these cha boards bolt issues paranoia health decline . Judgments false precursor and aimed in that directions. Then …. What’s the issue? 172.56.153.154 (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
 * OMG thats weird but funny! I totally remember that.  I like that movie.  You know, somebody is going to freakout when they see all these heated IP edits.  We should probably just get accounts ;D

Results for Request for comment: speedy include (zero oppose)
In light of a new press release by a highly reliable source (MSNBC), attributing to Microsoft's new video game Halo 3 netting over $170,000,000.00 within 24 hours of release date, I am updating the article.  Digital Ninja  03:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC) initially i was opposed to this but after these discussions i am now convinced that the release of halo 3 does belong here as the highest grossing media event in history Ragingbullfrog 08:12, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

HALO 3 IS RELEASE
IT ARE RELEASE! I KNOW BECAUSE OF MY LEARNINGS IT ARE AN FACT! 170 MIL IN ONE DAY IS MERIT ENOUGH FOR THIS ARTICLE, STOP QQING!

ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!!! 68.143.88.2 15:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

 * No this is false 172.56.153.154 (talk) 21:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

The Canberra Raiders' Third Premiership and Mal Meninga's Final Match were and continue to be globally significant events
Hi there,

It has been 14 long years since the Raiders won their third and most recent premiership. Until they (god willing) win another 25 September 1994 will remain a globally significant event.

I would be grateful if you could revert your changes to my changes so that the Wikipedia entry "25 September" will inform readers of this globally significant event.

Yours in wiki,

Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.81.3 (talk • contribs)

 * Please have a look at WP:DOY. No sports team winning any championship is globally notable.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Tabloid style and commercial interests
A featured article dedicated to an actress, a model remembered in the anniversaries, a TV anchor mentioned in Did you Know, a Microsoft troll making a lot of noise because his company best selling video game is not advertised. The home page today has really a tabloid feeling pressured by further commercial interests. May I suggest to replace some administrators?

World Pharmacist Day
September 25th is World Pharmacist Day. Pharmacist are the backbone of medical stream,if there's no Pharmacist, there is no Pharmaceutical Product and Medicine,So there don't have any Doctor,Nurse,Paramedical Staff because without a medine or medical products they could not give treatment to the Patients.25th September was dedicated to the soldiers who didn't get in front but giving their best to making doctors as God, Nurses as Pari. Congratulations to the Lovely Responsible Pharmacist for their job, World Pharmacist Day is Dedicated to them 🙏 Hemanta.puchu (talk) 21:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Published it as a Special day like other day celebration occurred. Make the Change. Hemanta.puchu (talk) 21:26, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

National Research Administrators Day
do entries like this require a Wiki article? --142.163.194.161 (talk) 22:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

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Simple majority

Simple majority may refer to:
 * Majority, a voting requirement of more than half of all votes cast
 * Plurality (voting), a voting requirement of more votes cast for a proposition than for any other option
 * First-past-the-post voting, the single-winner version of an election with plurality voting and one vote per person

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Mariano Rivera
The last career game of Mariano Rivera has been removed because it does not meet the notability requirements per WP:DOY. There is no particular significance in this last game or the last game of any MLB player's career. Additionally, in this case, even if it were notable, this date and the facts stated are not supported by a directly referenced source in any linked article. So it fails the inclusion criteria on two factors. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:54, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I see your point. However, the significance of that player is not debatable, so I don't see why we shouldn't. Further more, that moment when he exited was one of baseball most heartwarming moments. And I even have a source to support my claim: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/we-went-there-mariano-riveras-last-home-game/ 75.119.242.229 (talk) 21:12, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Still not notable. Against DOTY page guidelines as well. EvergreenFir (talk) 01:25, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

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Untited
"1988 - King Mahoonski, also known as Ryan Mahon-Abbott. a mythological god."

Is this not nonsense? I will be taking this out shortly. --Dyefade 14:57, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

What event occured in 1821 for Mexican independence from Spain? The Treaty of C%C3%B3rdoba ending the war was signed on August 24, 1821. --Bo Lawler 09:15 27Sep06

Minor Edit 14:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
1389, Cosimo de' Medici, ruler of Florence (d. 1464) removed from Birth list, as other sources show it to be April 10th. Silica-gel (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Updated based on research
1886 John Taylor did receive the mentioned revelation, the revelation is not controversial and is easily understood by knowing the vocabulary used (vocabulary that precedes the revelation). There is no mention of polygamy in the revelation and mainstream LDS have no issues with the revelation. It is simply used by the fundamentalists as justification. Redrok84 (talk) 02:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Google
On the Google page it states that Google was incorporated on 7th September 1998, but it is listed on this page as well as at September_7. Which is correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.229.2.22 (talk) 19:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

 * Removed. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 19:43, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

It should be added that google launched in 1999 on 27th September, the website is advertising it's birthday today.78.109.182.11 (talk) 10:13, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

 * It wasn't founded on the 27th. It was incorporated on the 4th.  Google must be doing a month long thing on their web site.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

every single year they put their birthday logo up on the 27th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.250.120.131 (talk) 03:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Right, has anyone actually ASKED Google why they choose the 27th September as their birthday: I’m finding nothing … Cuddy2977 (talk) 13:17, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

David Croft
David Croft (TV Producer)

I’ve tried adding David Croft — of Dad's Army and It Ain't Half Hot, Mum fame ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Croft_(TV_producer) ) — to the deaths section, but I’m blowed if I can work out how: is it possible someone could give me a hint, please. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddy2977 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

 * It was a result of the "P" in "(TV producer)" being capitalised. I have added the entry for you now. Jared Preston (talk) 14:45, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

 * Thanks, Jared … !

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1944 – The Kassel Mission results in the largest loss by a USAAF group on any mission in World War II.
I'm hesitant to unilaterally delete this on the chance I'm misunderstanding the post, but the Kassel Mission doesn't compare in terms of Allied losses to the Second Raid on Schweinfurt, and I don't see any information on the Kassel Mission page that offers information on either number or percentage losses of a single group on 27/28 September 1944.Eltrace (talk) 13:58, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I agree that it should be deleted, there isn't anything special about the bombing for the September 27th date for what was bombing attacks that lasted a year and a half. NZ Footballs Conscience  (talk) 20:40, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

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Kazan
Elia Kazan is listed as Hungarian. Elsewhere he is listed as having Greek parents and being born in Istanbul. Obviously an error here.

Changing this.Μάριος Ζηντίλης 05:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Star Trek
Use it as a reference? What, the bit about some star trek episode first being shown? Loons.

Sharon's visit
To limit the item to mentioning Sharons visit (and also only referring to it, as the Mosque and not the Temple Mount, the holiest site in Judaism) makes that entry, opinionated. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ucscottb4u (talk • contribs).

"Al-Aqsa Intifada begins", while technically a whole sentence, is far too insufficient. Whether Sharon's visit was the cause -- or intent -- it's indisputable that the violence followed his visit, which is what the entry says. Trying to remove this is a form of whitewashing. And as for the Temple Mount argument, please don't tell me you're going to recycle the old "it's holier to us than it is to them!" argument. --CalendarWatcher 01:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

This has nothign to do with my point of view. My edits are about REMOVING point of view. if i wanted to add my point of view there are like 12 different things that could be added on the other side of the argument. lets just leave it at it began this day. Its not a question of who the site is holier to, its holy to both religions but that again is not why i remved the reference to Sharon. Ucscottb4u 01:36, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Ucscottb4u...I didn't revert the substance of the dispute. Here's what I deleted, because it adds nothing to the entry:

 * "It would continue for another 6 years." Was there a definitive ending?

 * Can we all accept the Mitchell Report as an unbiased source? Here's what he says; does this help?

 * Accordingly, we have no basis on which to conclude that there was a deliberate plan by the PA to initiate a campaign of violence at the first opportunity; or to conclude that there was a deliberate plan by the GOI to respond with lethal force. However, there is also no evidence on which to conclude that the PA made a consistent effort to contain the demonstrations and control the violence once it began; or that the GOI made a consistent effort to use non-lethal means to control demonstrations of unarmed Palestinians. Amid rising anger, fear, and mistrust, each side assumed the worst about the other and acted accordingly.

 * The Sharon visit did not cause the "Al-Aqsa Initifada." But it was poorly timed and the provocative effect should have been foreseen; indeed it was foreseen by those who urged that the visit be prohibited. More significant were the events that followed: the decision of the Israeli police on September 29 to use lethal means against the Palestinian demonstrators; and the subsequent failure, as noted above, of either party to exercise restraint.

 * FWIW, I'm completely neutral here...my only interest is in establishing where WP:NPOV can be found. -- Jim Douglas (talk) (contribs)  01:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

That is all i want to. Thats why i kept removing the part about Sharons visit. It is an opinion not a fact.Ucscottb4u 02:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Tomato
I removed an entry that stated "1820 - The tomato is publicly proven safe when Robert Johnson eats a bushel (24 kg) of tomatoes in Salem, Massachusetts." According to the tomato page, the story was concocted in the mid 20th century and there is scant evidence the event actually occurred. Bo Lawler 28Sep06

Notability of Holidays
I added Ask a Stupid Question Day, which is apparently a real holiday with its own Wikipedia page, to "Holidays and observances", but it was removed because it was "not notable". Now, I understand why "Events" have to be notable, but there isn't any notability standard on "Births" -- anyone with a Wikipedia article and a birth date can get in. It seems to me that "Holidays and observances" should use the same test as "Births" -- if the holiday is notable enough to get its own Wikipedia article (and note that no one has even challenged the Ask a Stupid Question Day article), it should be allowed onto the date page... Shadzane (talk) 00:05, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

 * WP:DAYS and WP:DOY discuss observances. It is in the spirit of the project that observances should be limited to those that are widely and regularly celebrated.  Any fabricated holiday that is mentioned in a couple of sources could feasibly get an article, but most of those would not be widely observed and recognizable by most readers.  Much like births and deaths, being the subject of an article is a minimum requirement.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 00:27, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

 * As far as I can tell from looking at the date articles, in Births & Deaths being the subject of an article isn't just a minimum requirement, it's the only requirement. But I did read WP:DAYS, and Holidays are held to a slightly higher standard, so I see your point.  But please stop referring to "fabricated holidays" -- all holidays are fabricated (made up) by someone.  The difference between successful holidays and unsuccessful ones is how many other people have agreed with the holiday's fabricator that the holiday is worthy of celebration. Shadzane (talk) 06:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * However notable ASQD might be to the American school community, it's not global by any stretch of the imagination. Also, the article's sources are not of a 'reliable' enough nature. So how has the entry stood here for so long? Bjenks (talk) 02:12, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

It's back again. In the absence of criteria for this page that would allow such a thing, I see no reason it should be here. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 17:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)

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Freedom from hunger day
good idea, but seems to have died out. Does it still exist? Gov't supports?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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Brief description needed for each entry
To whoever: please add an explanation for any births or deaths you add of people who don't have an article - especially if they are currently only 17 yrs old. DJ Clayworth 14:41, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Dylan
I've changed the 1961 Dylan reference to the article by Robert SHELTON instead of Sheldon. Subtle difference in spelling, big difference in people. Jason 18:27, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Jesus
For the 2nd time, I have added this. Please, all religious Christian fanatics, DO NOT remove it. This is the estimated date of Jesus' birth, not just a made up date! And do not change it to BC either, as the terms BC and AD are no longer used. You should use the terms BCE (Before Common Era) and CE (Common Era).

5 BCE - Jesus of Nazareth (This is the estimated date of birth, based on research and facts, although it is formally celebrated on 25th December).

I heard Jesus was born in spring around 7 BCE. Igor Skoglund

(Source: http://www.new-life.net/chrtms10.htm)
 * Regardless, the issue appears to be covered in Munk, Linda. (1997) The Devil's Mousetrap: Redemption and Colonial American Literature. Oxford University Press. ISBN 0195114949. I placed a disclaimer in the birth section to prevent people from continuing to add the date.  There are many different dates suggested for the birth of Christ, and they all conflict with one another.  The only thing people can agree on, was the fact that if the historical Christ existed, then it is certain that he was not born on December 25.  Viriditas (talk) 09:46, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

 * Just a note on the statement that I was not entirely correct: In the entry, there was no support for the dob of Jesus on September 29. Per WP:DAYS any entry must be supported by a linked article.  The linked article (Jesus Christ) does not mention September 29.  So in that regard, I was 100% correct. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 14:31, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's fine, but aren't you appealing to a proposed guideline? Anyway, I have no real position on the matter other than attempting to end the dispute.  I think the disclaimer does that, but as you point out, it's so esoteric that it doesn't even appear in a current article.  It might actually help if we can find the names of the sects that believe Christ was born on this day; That information may be available, however, I suspect there are many, many dates like this, and we probably don't want to put disclaimers on all of them!  So, what to do?  If the disclaimer prevents editors from repeatedly adding the date for the short-term, then I say keep it for now, but obviously, we need a better solution, preferably one that links to an article.  And, in if the information can't be added to Jesus Christ, we probably shouldn't keep it, but I'm pretty sure we can add it.  Part of the problem with the current Wikipedia culture is that editors are too quick to delete instead of helping to research and add information. Viriditas (talk) 16:43, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

The use of a condescending tone with words like "religious Christian fanatics" is quite ironic, especially when it comes from someone who sounds like a "politically correct athiestic non-religion fanactic". Where do you get off stating so unequivically that the terms "BC" and "AD" are "no longer used"? I don't remember seeing a law passed anywhere to that effect. I have no problem using the terms BC and AD, and I resent someone telling me that I'm not allowed to use them because they find their connection to a religiously significant person to be culturally offensive. Using "AD" and "BC" is no worse than saying "Merry Christmas" to someone who isn't of a Christian faith in the period leading up to December 25th. Or have you unilaterally decided that the term "Merry Christmas" is "no longer used" either?

Having said that, I will acknowledge that there are terms that are exceptionally offensive, and are to be avoided at all costs. Examples would be offensive names used to describe members of a racial group, a religious group, or persons of a particular sexual orientation. I don't think that referring to the current year as "2010 AD" is anywhere nearly as offensive as any of those. 66.59.184.226 (talk) 20:03, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

If I (sorry, my name is Tina-Bella and my email is tinabelb@yahoo.com should you want the summary) may, I would like to contribute to the birth of Christ, our Lord. Definitely not 25/12, more likely anywhere between 11/9 and mid/10, and around 4BC. (At that time they still used BC and AD and I use it for clarification purposes.) Reason for my certainty is that my husband has been doing intensive research on this subject for more than 25years, and we believe now the date could have been 29/9 - or at least, that is the day we will commemorate in public from 2019 onwards, due to the fact that the Jewish Religious Calendar is different from the Roman Calendar on which our Calendar is based, we will keep to the date which is mid-stream between 11/9 and 15/10. Why are we so sure? Because we followed the clues to the puzzle in the Bible. And by that I don't mean the astrological clues, but the actual dating clues given to us. Anyone want those clues they are free to contact me, and we will provide a summary with everything. The clues include various facts and can be followed from Luke 1. Definitely no 25/12 'Christmas' any longer. James 4:17 tells us that if we know the right thing to do and we don't do it, then it is sin.. What do you think is right in this case? Keeping the celebration of the birth of Jesus on a Pagan Holy Day, (25/12) or remembering Him on a day which is recognised as His day of birth? Why should we recognise and remember His day of birth? Is YOUR birthday important to you? More-over, was it important to God that you have been born? Yes, it was, or else you wouldn't have been born. ;) Yes, it is important then, to celebrate the birth of our Lord, because it also shows the coming of the Lord, when He returns. Amen.105.226.87.30 (talk) 13:36, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Music
I have removed 2 music related entries from the Events section. Release dates of albums and songs is not a notible event. If you feel they are notible please discuss.

Removed Events:
 * 1987 - American alternative rock band Red Hot Chili Peppers releases The Uplift Mofo Party Plan, their third studio album.
 * 1992  - Erotica (song) released by Madonna

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2008 drop in dow
The 777 point drop in the DOW average is not of particular notability in the context of the life of the average. While it is indeed a record point drop, its impact is not the same as other smaller point drops that were a higher percentage of the total. This is reinforced by the fact that the average rebounded by 485 points the next day. This event should not be included here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 20:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * and yet, the economic implact of this news will be felt for decades.
 * I completely disagree.

I came her looking for Uragurian acts of terrorism, where people were killed, and it seems that it is also insignificant. http://terrorismoenuruguay.wordpress.com/

Yada yada yada, as the light goes out... While elsewhere on Wikipedia, others disagree http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_largest_daily_changes_in_the_Dow_Jones_Industrial_Average — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.200.41.67 (talk) 21:13, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

2011
Someone has added the vicotry of the Tampa Bay Rays and the collapse of the Boston Red Sox here. But, didn't this happen on September 28 and not September 29? L. Thomas W. (talk) 17:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)L. Thomas W. L. Thomas W. (talk) 17:53, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

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Food, and Hearts
I know today is World Heart Day.

I also note that the UN’s list of International Days tells us it’s International Day of Awareness of Food Loss and Waste.

Is it worth inserting it into the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddy2977 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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Chesapeake Capes removed
Sorry the date is September 5, not 30.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.17.15.208 (talk) 02:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Dave Arneson
Listed as born on the page for Sept. 30, but DOB on his page (sourced) says October 1. Making relevent changes. Etiji (talk) 14:01, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

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The list says: "2016 – Two paintings with a combined value of $100 million are recovered after having been stolen from the Van Gogh Museum in 2002", but the linked article Van Gogh Museum says, "The FBI Art Crime Team listed the robbery on their Top Ten Art Crimes list, and estimates the combined value of the paintings at US$30 million." Maybe the figures and currencies got mixed up somehow, as the linked article also says "The museum offered a reward of €100,000"? JezGrove (talk) 20:21, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Comiskey Park
In 1990, the Chicago White Sox played their last game at Comiskey Park, defeating the Seattle Mariners 2–1. Harold Reynolds, for Seattle, was the last man at the plate. IXPpl (talk) 03:18, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Relevance
Just curious, what counts as non-relevant? i posted another date on the page and in less than 30 minutes it was taken down, how do i know if its relevant enough? ExistingPersonWhoExists (talk) 15:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The general guidelines for relevance of events can be found here, although it says little about events as opposed to holidays and observances. The general place for 1960 TV show premiers would be in Category:1960 American television series debuts, where it is already listed. It is listed there because The Flintstones has  at the bottom of the source. For this particular case try and imagine what would happen to Days of the year pages if every TV show premier was listed on these pages or how it could be determined which TV shows could be considered sufficiently relevant. Hope this helps. Winston365 (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

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Mego Corporation

The Mego Corporation is an American toy company that in its original iteration was first founded in 1954. Originally known as a purveyor of dime store toys, in 1971 the company shifted direction and became famous for producing licensed action figures (including the long running "World's Greatest Super Heroes" line), celebrity dolls, and the Micronauts toy line. For a time in the 1970s, their line of 8-inch-scale action figures with interchangeable bodies became the industry standard.

In 1982 Mego filed for bankruptcy, and by 1983, the Mego Corporation ceased to exist; today, Mego action figures and playsets can be highly prized collectibles, with some fetching hundreds, or even in some cases, thousands of dollars (depending on rarity) in the collectibles market.

In July 2018, the newly-reformed Mego Corporation announced they would be producing a limited run of their classic style clothed dolls in their traditional 1/9 scale, as well as some 1/5 figures sold exclusively through Target. These dolls, which include recreations of action figures released in the 1970s, began seeing release later in the year.

Corporate history
Mego was founded in 1954 by D. David Abrams and Madeline Abrams. The company thrived in the 1950s and early 1960s as an importer of dime store toys until the rising cost of newspaper advertising forced Mego to change its business model. In 1971, the Abrams's son Martin, a recent business school graduate, was named company president.

Under Martin Abrams's direction, the company shifted its production to dolls with interchangeable bodies. Generic bodies could be mass-produced and different dolls created by interposing different heads and costumes on them.

In 1972 Mego secured the licenses to create toys for both National Periodical Publications (DC Comics) and Marvel Comics. The popularity of this line of 8" dolls—dubbed "The World's Greatest Super Heroes"—created the standard action-figure scale for the 1970s.

Mego began to purchase the license rights of motion pictures, television programs, and comic books, eventually producing doll lines for Planet of the Apes, Star Trek, and the Wizard of Oz. Mego also obtained licenses from Edgar Rice Burroughs for his creations, such as Tarzan.

Beginning in 1974 Mego released the Planet of the Apes action-figures, the first such toys sold as film tie-ins. 1975 saw the release of figures from Star Trek: The Original Series, which was steadily gaining fandom in syndication. The Planet of the Apes and Star Trek figures proved popular and inspired the rise of action figure series based on popular culture franchises.

During this period, Mego was known for the lavish parties the company threw at the annual New York American International Toy Fair. In 1975, Mego launched its Wizard of Oz film dolls with a gala whose special guests were every surviving member of the film's main cast. Mego's party at the Waldorf-Astoria with Sonny and Cher introducing their dolls drew a thousand people. Both dolls were formally unveiled on The Mike Douglas Show. The Cher doll was the number-1-selling doll in 1976, helping to make Mego the sixth-ranked American toy manufacturer, based on retail sales.

In 1976, Martin Abrams hashed out a deal with the Japanese toy manufacturer Takara to bring their popular lucite 3" fully articulated Microman figures to the United States under the name "Micronauts." While Marty was in Japan, Fox's lawyer Mark Peders dropped by the office to show stills from the upcoming motion picture Star Wars, but no one in the office could sign the deal, so Peders visited Kenner in the same building and Kenner president Bernie Loomis was in the office and signed the deal.  This decision seemed of little consequence to Mego at first, because the Micronauts figures initially sold well, earning the company more than $30 million at their peak. On the other hand, the Star Wars film was extremely popular and competitor Kenner Products sold substantial numbers of Star Wars action figures.

Following Star Wars ' huge cultural impact, and Kenner's great success with its action figure line, Mego negotiated licenses for the manufacturing rights to a host of science fiction motion pictures and television shows, including Moonraker, Buck Rogers in the 25th Century, The Black Hole, and Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Although these lines of Mego dolls were of much higher quality than Kenner's 12" Star Wars figures, none were as successful. The widespread success of Kenner's Star Wars 3-3/4" toy line soon made the newer, smaller size the industry standard, shifting sales away from the 8" standard popularized by Mego.

In the late 1970s, Mego was earning about $100 million in sales. Around this time, Mego began shifting their focus toward electronic toys like the 2-XL toy robot and the Fabulous Fred hand-held game player, but sales were not commensurate with the company's investment, and Mego went deeply into debt. Other problems included a rat infestation in Mego's warehouse and a lawsuit from Kenner over illegal appropriation of trade secrets related to the manufacture of their stretch figures. In the fiscal years 1980 and 1981, Mego reported combined losses of $40 million. In fiscal year 1982, the company reported losses of between $18 and $20 million.

In February 1982 the remaining staff was let go and the Mego offices were closed. On June 14, 1982, Mego filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy; the company officially went under in 1983.

In 1986, Martin Abrams co-founded Abrams Gentile Entertainment (AGE), in order to retain and manage Mego's licensing contracts, rights and deals. In October 1995 AGE attempted to reclaim the Mego trademark. In March 2002, they abandoned the effort. In early 2009, Martin Abrams announced that AGE had reclaimed the rights to the name Mego.

Mego Corporation is headquartered in Great Neck, NY, with manufacturing facilities in China and Mexico. In July 2018, Mego Corporation premiered an exclusive line with Target stores of their classic 8 inch clothed action figures as well as several 14 inch DC Superheroes figures at San Diego Comic Con with Joe Namath on hand to autograph his own 14 inch action figure. The Target exclusive featured three waves of figures hitting Target stores in August, October, and November. These figures were limited to 10,000 of each character.

Starting in 2019, Mego has continued to work with Target and other major retailers like Wal-Mart to bring the classic Star Trek, monsters, celebrities, and superheroes back to store shelves and on-line. Mego created action figures from the iconic Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan movie, giving fans of that 1982 classic the Mego figures they expected to see back then. Mego has also expanded distribution internationally, working with distributors in other countries to bring the magic of Mego to the rest of the world as well.

In 2020 Mego launched new waves of action figures and products with the help of Dr. Mego (Paul Clarke) to a wide audience via Target Corporation stores around the United States; Marty Abrams is greeting old and new fans at comic-cons and conventions nationwide.

Fighting Yank
A toy similar to GI Joe; so similar, in fact, that Hasbro was able to show that the toy's body had been copied directly from authentic GI Joe tooling. Hasbro threatened a lawsuit and Mego discontinued the product.

Broadway Joe Namath
An action doll based on New York Jets quarterback Joe Namath. The 1970s toyline included Broadway Joe in New York Jets football uniform, plus additional fashions sold separately.

Action Jackson
One of Mego's first toys under Martin Adams was an original character, Action Jackson, meant to compete with Hasbro's popular G.I. Joe line. Heavily promoted on television commercials and in newspaper advertisements, the Action Jackson line included dolls, vehicles, and playsets. It was a big seller on its 1971 launch, but soon faded in popularity and was discontinued after 1974. The body design was reused for 8-inch licensed dolls.

Dinah Mite
A fashion doll produced as a female counterpart to Action Jackson. The doll was not a success, but the body design was reused for 8-inch licensed female dolls.

World's Greatest Super Heroes!
Beginning in 1972, Mego released the first comprehensive line of DC Comics and Marvel Comics superhero and villain dolls, coining the term "World's Greatest Super Heroes!" (WGSH) as an umbrella title for all the dolls released in this line. To start the line, Mego produced Batman, Robin, Aquaman, and Superman dolls. (For the South African market, a local radio play hero, Jet Jungle, was included in the series.) The earliest dolls were released in a solid box, but these boxes were often damaged by shoppers who wanted to see the figure inside. The design was quickly changed to a "window" style box. The WGSH line was offered from 1972 until 1983.

Fashion dolls
Mego marketed various fashion doll lines designed to compete with Mattel's popular Barbie line. The company's first attempt was the 1973 "Maddie Mod" line, which included an extensive wardrobe and Maddie's boyfriend "Richie," was not a success. Next, Mego created "Dinah-Mite," a poseable eight-inch (203 mm) scale Barbie-like doll with a boyfriend named Don. Other fashion dolls included "Beautiful Lainie," a 19" doll that danced back and forth from the hips; and Candi, a line that included "Coppertone Candi," a "tanning" doll co-branded with Coppertone sunscreen.

TV and movie dolls
The popularity of the 1974 releases of the Planet of the Apes and Star Trek: The Original Series lines led Mego to produce a variety of licensed figures based on films and TV shows, including The Flintstones, Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, Our Gang, Starsky & Hutch, The Waltons, and Wizard of Oz.

Mego introduced a Lynda Carter Wonder Woman doll line in 1977. The first edition of the Wonder Woman dolls and accessories included:
 * Wonder Woman (factory-painted bustier top with cloth star-spangled bottoms, bracelets, golden lasso, tiara, and red boots), as well as a Diana Prince Navy Yeoman outfit, featuring black glasses and black high-heeled shoes
 * Nubia, Wonder Woman's super-foe
 * Queen Hippolyta, Wonder Woman's mother
 * Major Steve Trevor, Wonder Woman's best friend and boss

Mego added 12$1⁄2$-inch dolls from the Superman movie in 1978, which included Superman, Jor-El, Lex Luthor, and General Zod.

In the early 1980s Mego produced dolls and vehicles for the popular TV shows CHiPs, Dallas, Dukes of Hazzard, and The Greatest American Hero. The Dukes of Hazzard dolls sold well, but Mego failed with its CHiPs and Dallas dolls.

Comic Action Heroes!
Always thinking of ways to reduce costs of production, in 1975 Mego released a smaller plastic line of action toys called Comic Action Heroes! that had the costumes molded onto the figure (and later adopted by Star Wars and Super Powers lines), thus eliminating the extra cost of creating the suits. The line featured Batman, Robin, The Joker, and The Penguin, as well as other DC Comics characters, and Marvel characters such as Spider-Man, Captain America, and the Hulk. Later, in 1979, Mego re-released the line under the new name Pocket Super Heroes.

Celebrity dolls
In 1976, Mego launched a highly successful $12 1/2$-inch celebrity doll line. The first dolls were Sonny and Cher, with famed fashion designer Bob Mackie designing an extensive wardrobe for Cher. Farrah Fawcett, Jaclyn Smith, Diana Ross, Suzanne Somers, Captain and Tennille, and Kiss celebrity dolls followed in 1977 and 1978.

Micronauts
From 1976 to 1980 Mego produced a licensed line of Takara's Microman figures under the name Micronauts. The 3-3/4" toy line's popularity led Marvel Comics to launch a Micronauts comic book in 1979, which ran until 1986.

2-XL robot
In 1978, Martin Abrams purchased inventor Michael J. Freeman's toy robot, the 2-XL, which was introduced to the public and became a success. The toy was sold in different countries and was voiced in seven languages, including English. 2-XL was a revolutionary idea, combining toys and education. A lot of games were also developed for the toy. By 1981, the 2-XL's popularity had waned, and it was later discontinued. However, the 2-XL robot was upgraded and reintroduced in the early 1990s by Tiger Electronics, a US based toy company. The programs for this version were also voiced by Freeman and sold worldwide.

The 2-XL was part of Mego's electronic games line, which included the handheld devices Mini-Vid and Fabulous Fred.

Military dolls
In 1976, Mego began producing a small collection of World War II-themed military dolls marketed in France, Italy (under the Polistil name), Germany, Australia, and the United Kingdom under different names. Most of these products were branded under the "Lion Rock" name, Mego's manufacturing arm. These dolls were released in United States the early 1980s as "Johnny Action" or "Combat Man." Using the 6 in format, they were produced after the 12 in G.I. Joe dolls had lost their popularity and before the revival of the G.I. Joe line in $3 3/4$-inch format; they were also intended to compete with Spain's Madelman line of soldier dolls. The 6 in combat line was not a success.

Eagle Force
One of Mego's final large product lines was Eagle Force, a 2+3/4 in die-cast action figure toy line co-designed by Paul Kirchner and marketed in 1981-1982. Produced during Ronald Reagan's first term as president, the Eagle Force toy line was marketed as a counter-terrorist task force, to send the message that the United States wasn't going to be "pushed around" anymore. The line was similar to Hasbro's G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero dolls.

Reissued Marx playsets
Mego acquired the moulds of World War II soldiers, vehicles and landscape terrain from Louis Marx and Company, reissuing their Battleground (1980) and Navarone (1981) playsets. Mego also reissued a Prehistoric Dinosaur, Fort Apache and Galaxy Command playsets.

Dolls

 * Action Jackson (1971–1974)
 * CB McHaul line (1977) – figures and vehicles designed to cash in on the short-lived citizens band radio craze
 * Comic Action Heroes (1976–1978) – 3-3⁄4" action figures of DC Comics characters
 * Eagle Force line (1982) – included playset and vehicles
 * Elastic Superheroes line (1979–1980) – stretchable dolls designed to compete with the popular Kenner product Stretch Armstrong; includes Mego Elastic Donald Duck, Mego Elastic Batman, Mego Elastic Incredible Hulk, and Mego Elastic Plastic Man
 * Fighting Yank (1973–1974) – discontinued by Mego after being sued by Hasbro as being too similar to G.I. Joe
 * Johnny Action/Combat Man (c. 1981–1982)
 * Legends (1975) – historical characters from the American West, Robin Hood, "Super Pirates," "Super Knights," and a medieval playset
 * Micronauts (1976–1980)
 * One Million B.C. (1976–1977) – included "Cave People" and dinosaurs
 * Pocket Super Heroes (1980–1982) – line of 3-3/4" DC Comics and Marvel Comics figures, vehicles, and playsets
 * Tarzan (1975) – 3" "Bendy" figure made of poseable, malleable plastic
 * World's Greatest Super Heroes! (1972–1983)
 * DC Comics characters Aquaman, Batgirl, Batman, Catwoman, Green Arrow, Isis, Joker, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Penguin, Riddler, Robin, Captain Marvel (for legal reasons labeled as "Shazam"), Supergirl, Superman, Tarzan, Teen Titans (Speedy, Kid Flash, Aqualad, and Wonder Girl), and Wonder Woman, as well as a Batmobile that could seat two 8-inch dolls
 * Marvel Comics characters Captain America, Conan, Falcon, Green Goblin, Hulk, Human Torch, Invisible Girl, Iron Man, Lizard, Mr. Fantastic, Spider-Man, The Thing and Thor
 * American West series (1974) – included Sitting Bull, Davy Crockett, Wyatt Earp, Wild Bill Hickok and his horse Shadow, Cochise, Buffalo Bill, and a Dodge City playset
 * Mad Monster Series (1974–1975) – included Frankenstein, Dracula, the Wolfman, and the Mummy
 * Secret Identity line (1974) – exclusive to Montgomery Ward; included Bruce Wayne, Dick Grayson, Clark Kent, and Peter Parker

TV/movie dolls

 * The Black Hole (fall 1979) – 12" and 4" lines
 * Buck Rogers in the 25th Century (1979–1981) – 12" line and a series of 3.75" figures and scaled spaceships
 * CHiPs (1981–1982) – 3-3⁄4" figures
 * Dallas (1981)
 * Doctor Who (1977–1978) – released only in the United Kingdom in partnership with Denys Fisher; 9" dolls including the Fourth Doctor, Leela, K-9 (released in 1978 after the first six), the Giant Robot, a Cyberman, a Dalek, and a TARDIS
 * Dukes of Hazzard (1981–1982)
 * Flash Gordon (1978)
 * The Flintstones (1977)
 * Greatest American Hero (1982)
 * Happy Days (1977–1978) – included Fonzie, Richie Cunningham, Potsie, Ralph Malph, Fonzie's Garage playset and Fonzie's Motorcycle
 * King Kong (1977)
 * Laverne & Shirley (1978) – included Laverne, Shirley, Lenny, and Squiggy
 * Lynda Carter Wonder Woman doll line (1977–1979) – included Wonder Woman, Nubia, Queen Hippolyta, and Major Steve Trevor
 * Moonraker (1979)
 * Our Gang (1976–1977)
 * Planet of the Apes (1974–1977)
 * Star Trek: The Original Series (1974–1976) – 8" line included Captain Kirk, Mr. Spock, Dr. Leonard McCoy "Bones", Mr. Scott "Scottie", Lt. Uhura, the 9 Star Trek Aliens (a Klingon, a Neptunian, the Keeper, a Gorn, a Cheron, a Romulan, a Talos, an Andorian, and a Mugato), and playsets of the U.S.S. Enterprise, Star Trek: Mission To Gamma VI, as well as a standalone Star Trek Transporter
 * Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) – 3-3/4" line and 12" line
 * Star Trek Super Phaser II Target Game
 * Starsky & Hutch (1976–1978)
 * Superman doll line (1978) – included Superman, Jor-El, Lex Luthor, and General Zod
 * The Waltons (1974–1976)
 * Wizard of Oz (1975)

Celebrity dolls

 * Captain and Tennille (1977)
 * Diana Ross (1977)
 * Farrah Fawcett (1977–1978)
 * Jaclyn Smith (c. 1977)
 * Kiss (1978)
 * Kristy McNichol (1978)
 * Muhammad Ali (1976–1977)
 * Sonny and Cher (1976–1978)
 * Suzanne Somers (c. 1977)

Fashion dolls

 * Candi (1979)
 * Dinah-Mite (1973–1975)
 * Lainie (1973) —19" doll
 * Maddie Mod (1973)

Electronic games and toys

 * 2-XL (1978–1982) – toy robot
 * Batman Command Console (1977)
 * Fabulous Fred (1980) – handheld device with 10 games
 * Time Out (1980) – A short-lived rebrand of Nintendo's early Game & Watch titles, such as Ball (retitled as Toss-Up), Vermin (Exterminator), and Fire (Fireman Fireman), that was discontinued when the then-recently established Nintendo of America began releasing the games under their original titles the same year.
 * Mini-Vid (1979) – handheld electronic games like Break Free, Dodge City Gunfight, Sea Battle, and Spacewar
 * Pulsonic baseball (1980)
 * Star Trek tricorder (1976) – life-size

Games

 * Ball Buster (1975)
 * Magnadoodle (1978)
 * Mazeroni (1975)
 * Obsession (1978–1979)
 * See 'N Drive (1978)
 * Sixth Sense (1978–1979)

Other

 * Beanie Buddies (1978)
 * Bubble Yum Baby (1977) – doll that blew a chewing gum bubble; co-branded with Bubble Yum
 * Chills 'N Thrills stunt car game (1975)
 * Clown Around (1981)
 * Commander Zack Power and his Lightning Cycle (1975)
 * Dare Bros. toy glider (1975)
 * Doodlebugs (1978–1979) – wooden toy cars
 * Dune Machine (1980) – toy dune buggy
 * Evel Knievel bike accessories (1975)
 * Luv'n'Stuff (1975) – soft animal characters
 * Magnanimals (1978) – wooden toy animals, vehicles, and playsets, including some Disney characters
 * Poz 'N Play (1978)
 * Puppet Love (1978)
 * Speed Burners (1976/1977/1978) – diecast cars designed to compete with Matchbox and Hot Wheels
 * Woodies (1973) – wooden preschool toys

"Mego Melt"
Several different (but not all) plastic dolls made by Mego have suffered from "Mego Melt" (also known as "Mego Molt"), a term coined by toy collectors to describe the material deteriorating over time. The plastic used for the doll's torso reacts with the rubberized plastic used for the arms and legs. The result is a melting of the torso at those joining points: shoulder, underarm, hips, and buttocks. Even when stored carefully, this melting often results in the costumes becoming stuck to the dolls. Excessive heat from storage in hot attics or garages exacerbates this problem. The dolls' hair and eyelashes are prone to similar deterioration when exposed to high temperatures.

In popular culture
From 1996–2011, Mego's 8 in dolls, particularly the superhero line, found new life in Twisted ToyFare Theater (originally called "Twisted Mego Theatre"), a humorous photo comic strip appearing in ToyFare, a monthly magazine published by Wizard Entertainment. ToyFare staff posed and took photos depicting the dolls in bizarre situations, with added dialogue balloons. The series was well known in comic book and collectors' circles for its distinctive, off-the-wall sense of humor. The popular strips were later published separately in their own collections.

Mego dolls as well as similarly styled figures are used in sexually perverted adult oriented situations in the Cartoon Network/Adult Swim program Robot Chicken. The show, which debuted in February 2005, is directly based on Twisted ToyFare Theater and features three of its writers.

Sources consulted

 * Bonavita, John. Mego Action Figure Toys, 3rd Edition (2001)
 * Holcomb, Benjamin. Mego 8" Super-Heroes: World's Greatest Toys!, (2008) TwoMorrows Publishing ISBN 1-893905-82-9

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