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Talk:May 21

I added the date of the last event for 3PW which I think is as important as any other date in this entry.

Champions League 2008
The final (and tournement) finished in Moscow on May the 22nd (after midnight) so the Man Utd winning third trophy item has been moved to that date (137.108.145.250 (talk) 15:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC))

Battle of Long Sault
I have removed an event that looked like this
 * 1660 In Long Sault, French Garrison commander Adam Dollard-Des-Ormeaux & his remaing caravan meet their demise after a sudden explosion of a lit & hurled powder keg hits a wooden barrier.

It certainly needed some cleanup, and it's notability is perhaps questionable (I'd be OK with it tho). I removed it because I don't think it occurred on May 21, and researching this it seems the exact date of the end of the battle is unknown. This isn't really surprising as none of the French survived. The best reference I can find that discusses the dates is this one, which states "According to Chaumonot, the battle of the Long Sault was begun on 2 May; according to Radisson and Chaumonot it probably lasted seven days, eight according to Dollier de Casson and ten according to the Relation. If we except the five survivors who fell into the enemy’s hands, Dollard and his companions must have perished between 9 and 12 May 1660". As the date is not known exactly this event doesn't belong on a DOY page, although I suppose it could be added to the 1660 article. Winston365 (talk) 18:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

End times prediction date
C'mon, let 2011 be "End of the World/Judgment Day/666 Satans!!!111!!" on May 21st. Show the world that Wikipedia has a sense of ironic humor (Uncyclopedia doesn't count). The world demands the ability to look up May 21st on Wikipedia, see "Judgment Day" on the screen for 2011, and look at our buddy and go, "Even Wikipedia has it, yes!!" and high-five him. 72.145.217.42 (talk) 14:37, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but not for comedic value - this is a newsworthy event and should be listed on this page with some factual information, such as the groups who believe this is the end of the world, why, and what steps have been taken. I'm not a believer, but many come to this page for research on the 'judgment day' of May 21 and we need to provide them with some info. Sam metal (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

 * Levity and WP:IDONTLIKEIT aside, this item has been restored to the events section. People are coming here expecting to see it and it's been linked to the appropriate article (2011 end times prediction).  Doesn't matter if it's ridiculous or not (it is).  The ad campaign launched by this man and his devotees is receiving significant media attention to meet WP:GNG and is focused entirely around this one date which makes it appropriate for inclusion in this list.--RadioFan (talk) 15:41, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * C'mon, why do you think this page is protected? There is no consensus to add this nonsense. TL565 (talk) 20:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It's protected from vandalism which is why it's a semi-protection not full protection.--RadioFan (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It isn't notable because a radio host says its the end of the world. Judging from your name, of course you would think so. People should not be expecting it to be on this page. It is always removed from the 2011 page if added. This page lists factual events, not outrageous predictions. It was protected because people were adding the same thing. TL565 (talk) 20:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

If you must know what I think of what this radio host says, I think he's full of crap, but it doesn't matter what you or I think, It's notable, Days of the year does not limit entries to "factual events" in fact it meets the Major dates in the history of world religion. item in the guideline, The only objection I'm seeing to an neutral entry is yours with the only comment of "it's nonsense". I agree it's nonsense but it's still notable, has an article that's notable and it's clear that this event is driving people to this page which demonstrates that people expect to see it here. As for protection, It's protected from vandalism which is why it's a semi-protection not full protection, big difference. Looking at the history, several editors have reverted edits, but that's been in reaction to vandalism. --RadioFan (talk) 20:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * How is it notable? I predict the world is going to end tomorrow, should we add that in? It has been reverted many times on the 2011 page. The IPs were adding the same thing you added, but that's vandalism? The reason for the protection states "Protected until after "Judgment Day", which means that the date should not be added. TL565 (talk) 21:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The IPs weren't adding the same thing I added. Their wording stated it as a fact that it will happen.  My wording points to the predication which is far more nuetral and treats it the same way it's being treated in the media.   You seem very very opposed to any coverage of this in Wikipedia.  I agree that the predication is ridiculous but again that doesn't matter.  It meets notability guidelines.  If you disagree, feel free to nominate the article itself for deletion, I dont think you'll be sucessful though.--RadioFan (talk) 21:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Future events do not go on days of the year articles. These pages are for historical events and until this event is history and is proven to have a worldwide impact, it can't be on this page. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:23, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * TL565, when MSNBC and the Washington Post run stories about your prediction and campaign to spread it, then you may feel very free to add your own page about it. If you'd bother to visit the page link, you would already know the answer to "how is it notable?". That said, I'd have to agree with Mufka. This date page really only lists significant events that have actually happened and the prediction really doesn't make the cut. -- Fyrefly (talk) 21:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, only few minor articles, but its not like its dominating the news. I'd say it's notable to have its own page about the prediction, but to link it to a day of the year page is not. TL565 (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

What of the readers that are coming here expecting to see an entry for this? It's pretty clear from recent activity that it's picked up, what else would people be coming here for? Should WP:COMMONSENSE tell us that an entry here is in the best interest of the project? --RadioFan (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if they're expecting to see something. I do it too, but to add it just for the sake of adding a link is not enough. If people really are interested, they will find it eventually. TL565 (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * EC - They'll see that this is a page for historical events and be a little disappointed. The project won't be harmed by this fact.  If there were an article about the subject, I'd consider a hat note if it is determined that a lot of people are hitting this article looking for it.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * That's a good suggestion. Anyone have any objections?--RadioFan (talk) 21:54, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * It couldn't hurt to have it in, considering it's a one off thing and won't come around next year (whether that be the prediction or Judgement Day) and because it's in the news I support the notion that it should go in. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 18:19, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

2011 Proposal
Since there is resistance to adding a link to the article on the predicted end times, and to avoid an edit war, I'll put it out there as a proposal. I believe this is an appropriate addition to this list because of the notability of the subject (it's receiving sufficient coverage in reliable sources that the article easily meets WP:GNG), the fact that the topic is very date centric and that recent traffic to the May 21 article make it clear that people are coming here expecting to see an entry. Here is the proposed wording. I believe it is sufficiently neutral to alleive any encyclopedic concerns and welcome comments:
 * 2011 Date predicted by religious radio host Harold Camping as the end of the world
 * I don't have a strong stance on whether it should be on this page (except that it will make it easier for people searching for that article to find it, as there is no ideal titles for it), but I will note that it's not the date predicted as the end of the world; it's the date predicated for the Rapture. Under that timetable, the end of the world isn't until October 21. --Nat Gertler (talk) 21:34, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The proposed entry above is based on the article title. If that's not correct it should be noted there.--RadioFan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The article title is 2011 end times prediction; the end times covers the entire period from the May 21, 2011 rapture to the October 21, 2011 end of the world. -Nat Gertler (talk) 21:59, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Do you have a suggestion for an alternative wording for this list?--RadioFan (talk) 22:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What you have, only ending with either as the Rapture or as the the start of the end times. --Nat Gertler (talk) 22:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Whatever it's called it, it's a future event and is specifically excluded by WP:DOY. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 21:36, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:DOY is a guideline, not policy, a little WP:COMMONSENSE mixed with some consensus overrides that guideline. Traffic to this article is up 10-20x over this time last year.   There's a lot of readers who expect to see it here, does that not count for something?  Do we see ourselves as editors as counting for more?--RadioFan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * What I was trying get at before, maybe I didn't say it the right way, but this article lists historic events. If you add the prediction, you can just see that it doesn't really match with the rest of the events. I agree that this page is for historical events that already happened and not someone predicting what will happen. I'm not sure if WP:CRYSTAL would apply here. TL565 (talk) 22:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:CRYSTAL does apply. Since the article is for historical events, we can't know if this one will have a historical significance before it happens.  The proposal suggests adding something that just doesn't belong here.  It's not what these pages are for.  You won't find any future event on any date article.  There's a reason for that.  The hat note suggestion seems like a good compromise.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:13, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Not to sound clueless, but what exactly is hat note? Is it like those "If your looking for" notes at top of an article? TL565 (talk) 22:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. WP:HATNOTE.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree then, but only if it's temporary. I doubt it will have any long term significance. We'll just have to see. TL565 (talk) 22:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * On second thought, after looking at WP:HATNOTE, what would be the reason for the hat note? Would recent news or page traffic be enough to put a hat note? TL565 (talk) 22:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm accepting on good faith the assertion that the higher than normal traffic to the page is due to people looking for this event. If these people are looking for something else that they're not finding, then a hat note would be appropriate.  If a reasonable person could type in May 21 and expect to find information about this story/event/whatever, then a hat note is appropriate.  Hat notes generally aren't temporary, but it may be the only thing that can gain consensus.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:40, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Definitely either list it or put up a hatnote; the hatnote might be preferable since this page is not about the future. But seriously, this page was viewed yesterday by 21,000 people, as compared to the usual less-than-5000. Many of them are clearly looking for 2011 End Times prediction; the publicity this week has been massive. (See Current Google News search results) It would be simple courtesy to put a note at the top that says "This page lists historical events and recurring commemorations. For the prediction that the Christian Rapture will occur on May 21, 2011, see 2011 End Times prediction." The sooner this is done the better. The hatnote could be taken down after site traffic returns to something approaching normal. --MelanieN (talk) 00:21, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * We seem to have reasonable consensus on a temporary hat note, which has been added. I've tried to incorporate comments about the wording but am open to other wordings of course.  The hat note should remain until the date has passed or the semi-protection removed, which ever is longer.--RadioFan (talk) 00:51, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth metrics for the article have been updated for today (it, works on UTC) and today's hits are 22.5k.
 * And to be clear - while one might expect traffic for any date to be spiking a bit as the date approaches, the views of May 21 are running about 10 times the viewings for May 20. Running that temporary hat note seems quite appropriate in this circumstance. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:27, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

I support the notion that it should be included because as stated above it is what people would be looking for as I know it's been referenced in several newspapers. Also considering it's a one off thing no matter whether he's wrong or it is the Rapture day. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:41, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The hat note is a good compromise. I think we can leave it at that.  If this event proves to be correct tomorrow (and I'll go out on a limb and say that we all know it absolutely won't be), then we can certainly consider adding it as an event - once it is history.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:14, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, I didn't notice it myself, but, considering I have been told my eternal destination is one of the warmer climates by many people with different beliefs, I suppose I personally might not anyway. Use of the hat note seems a reasonable compromise under the existing conditions. I have reservations about use of such hat notes in general. For instance, we could just as easily list upcoming national elections of various countries for the same reasons, as well as final episodes of longrunning TV shows, dates for widespread release of upcoming movies, and the like, particularly if the advertising campaigns stress the relevant date. Also, I think, under the circumstances, that now, considering that we're all still here (we are all still here, right?), maybe now the hat note might be removed and the material might be moved directly into the body of the article as an end-of-the-world proposal which apparently didn't live up to the advance publicity. Personally, I'm not sure if all such proposals should be included in these articles, given their number, and that might be worth some degree of broader discussion. John Carter (talk) 17:19, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I say remove the hat but add it to the history section of the article for sure. The hat I think is kinda pointless to keep, like, 3 months from now, but as a historical date thing, I totally believe it's notable to keep.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.187.150.30 (talk) 02:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Article hits are still abnormally high so the hat note is still appropriate. It still shouldn't be included as an event since an event that didn't happen isn't all that notable and this won't be notable in the long term.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:08, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to calrify, the topic is notable and is significant in that it received international media attention and will likely be notable in the long term as it's expected that the event will be referenced each time a end of world prophesy is generated again, and it will happen again. Consensus was that a hat note was more appropriate rather than an entry in the article not because of the notability of the topic but because it did not meet the guidelines for inclusion in date articles, which are very specific.  All that being said, the hat note should stay until traffic to the article returns to normal levels, lets check back the end of the week.--RadioFan (talk) 13:53, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
 * And, as per policies and guidelines, notability is not temporary. It certainly received extensive international coverage, and I have a feeling the October date probably will receive significant coverage in October as well, maybe meriting the same sort of treatment there in time. Having said all that, the guidelines are still just guidelines, not policies. If it is just based on the guidelines that the material wasn't included, I think in a few cases the guidelines could not be followed, and that, at least for the next several years, this prediction (and, maybe, if the attention is similar, the now-rescheduled October event) might be sufficiently notable to qualify as exceptions. John Carter (talk) 16:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Remove hat note?
Traffic on this page has returned to normal. Should the note be removed now? TL565 (talk) 12:12, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
 * While traffic is not as large as it was, it's still in the 800-hits range, whereas traffic for the May 20 and May 22 dates are in the 400 range. So while this is actually significantly down for all the articles from the same time last year, it does suggest that a large portion of the traffic this page is now getting is due to some specific momentary interest in May 21, which seems likely due to the subject of the hatnote. --Nat Gertler (talk) 13:29, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

St Constantine
The article on Constantine indicates that he is venerated in the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox Churches, and in the Eastern Catholic Churches. Should this last indication be taken to mean that he is venerated in the "Catholic" Church? Or should these 3 denominations be listed after his name here? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 10:39, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

1703 – Daniel Defoe imprisoned on charges of seditious libel. - Possible error in Date
This entry says that DeFoe was imprisoned on the 21st. The link to The DeFoe record, [|Daniel_Defoe], states that "Defoe was a natural target, and his pamphleteering and political activities resulted in his arrest and placement in a pillory on 31 July 1703". According to the Defoe article, it was after he served his time in the Pillory that he went to prison. The article states that he served three days in the pillory. Therefore, the date of his imprisonment would be August 3, 1703.

If the Defoe entry is correct, then Defoe could not have been imprisoned on the 21st of may 1703, since he was sentenced later in the year.

Unless more relevant citations are found, I suggest that this entry be moved to the August 3rd page.

MyRandomUserName (talk) 16:26, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Criteria for who is worthy of being mentioned on these pages
The following people were deleted 21/Aug/16 by with the explanation “undo insufficiently globally notable entries”: Can anyone please tell me: Otherwise, I am tempted to put these (and other) people back into the list. -- -- -- 20:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1801 – Princess Sophie of Sweden, Swedish princess (d. 1865)
 * 1806 – Harriet Sutherland-Leveson-Gower, Duchess of Sutherland, English duchess (d. 1806)
 * 1828 – Rudolf Koller, Swiss painter (d. 1905)
 * 1) What is the exact criteria for deciding who is considered “sufficiently globally notable”?
 * 2) Where was consensus achieved that “insufficiently globally notable entries” should not be mentioned on these pages?

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 * 1984  – Sara Goller, German volleyball player
 * 1985  – Heath L'Estrange, Australian rugby league player
 * 1987 – Beau Falloon, Australian rugby league player
 * 1988 – Claire Cashmore, English swimmer
 * 1991 – Guilherme, Brazilian footballer
 * 1992  – Philipp Grüneberg, German footballer
 * 1993 – Grete Gaim, Estonian biathlete. -- -- -- 20:21, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1974  – Aditi Gowitrikar, Indian model, actress, and physician, Mrs. World 2001
 * 1977  – Michael Fuß, German footballer
 * 1979  – James Clancy Phelan, Australian author and academic
 * 1982 – Brian Klemm, American singer-songwriter and guitarist (Suburban Legends and Big D and the Kids Table)
 * 1983  – Deidson Araújo Maia, Brazilian footballer
 * 1985  – Isa Guha, English cricketer. -- -- -- 20:30, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1969 – Pierluigi Brivio, Italian footballer
 * 1972 – Adriano Cintra, Brazilian singer, guitarist, and producer (CSS). -- -- -- 20:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1954  – Janice Karman, American film producer, record producer, singer, and voice actress
 * 1963  – David Lonsdale, English actor
 * 1964 – Danny Bailey, English footballer and coach
 * 1965 – Josh Richman, American actor and producer. -- -- -- 20:51, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1944  – Marcie Blane, American singer
 * 1948  – Jacqueline Davies, English lawyer and judge
 * 1949  – Denis O'Connor, British police officer. -- -- -- 21:23, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1912  – Akiva Vroman, Dutch-Israeli geologist and academic (d. 1989)
 * 1915 – Cathleen Cordell, American actress (d. 1997)
 * 1920  – Forrest White, American businessman, co-founded the Music Man Company  (d. 1994)
 * 1923 – Vernon Biever, American photographer (d. 2010)
 * 1923  – Evelyn Ward, American actress (d. 2012)
 * 1934 – Jocasta Innes, Chinese-English journalist and author (d. 2013)
 * 1938 – Lee "Shot" Williams, American singer (d. 2011). -- -- -- 21:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1808 – David de Jahacob Lopez Cardozo, Dutch Talmudist (d. 1890)
 * 1827 – William P. Sprague, American banker and politician (d. 1899)
 * 1893  – Giles Chippindall, Australian public servant (d. 1969)
 * 1901 – Manfred Aschner, German-Israeli microbiologist and entomologist (d. 1989). -- -- -- 21:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1979  – Briana Banks, German-American porn actress and model
 * 1981  – Kaori Shimizu, Japanese voice actress and singer
 * 1985  – Marie McCray, American porn actress and model
 * 1998 – Koki Ogawa, Japanese actor and entertainer. -- -- -- 20:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1237 – Olaf the Black, Manx son of Godred II Olafsson
 * 2012  – Otis Clark, American butler and preacher, survivor of the Tulsa race riot (b. 1903)
 * 2014 – Tunku Annuar, Malaysian son of Badlishah of Kedah (b. 1939). -- -- -- 21:26, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1985  – Mark Cavendish, Manx cyclist
 * 1984 – Ann Little, American actress (b. 1891)
 * 2013 – Count Christian of Rosenborg (b. 1942)
 * 2013  – Mohammad Khaled Hossain, Bangladeshi mountaineer (b. 1979)
 * 2014  – Alireza Soleimani, Iranian wrestler (b. 1956). -- -- -- 21:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1970  – Pauline Menczer, Australian surfer
 * 1985  – Mutya Buena, English singer-songwriter. -- -- -- 20:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1984  – Brandon Fields, American football player
 * 1986  – Greg Stewart, Canadian ice hockey player
 * 1995 – Diego Loyzaga, Filipino actor. -- -- -- 20:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1946 – Allan McKeown, English-American screenwriter and producer (d. 2013)
 * 1954 – D. B. S. Jeyaraj, Sri Lankan-Canadian journalist and blogger
 * 1960  – Mark Ridgway, Australian cricketer. -- -- -- 20:49, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1756 – William Babington, Irish-born, English physician and mineralogist (d. 1833)
 * 1893 – Arthur Carr, English cricketer (d. 1963)
 * 1927  – Péter Zwack, Hungarian businessman and diplomat (d, 2012)
 * 1932  – Leonidas Vasilikopoulos, Greek admiral and intelligence chief (d. 2014). -- -- -- 21:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1929 – Larance Marable, American drummer (d. 2012)
 * 1930 – Tommy Bryant, American bassist (d. 1982)
 * 1976  – Abderrahim Goumri, Moroccan runner (d. 2013)
 * 1976  – Deron Miller, American singer-songwriter and guitarist. -- -- -- 21:20, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1885 – Princess Sophie of Schönburg-Waldenburg (d. 1936)
 * 1963  – Pete Sandoval, Salvadoran-American drummer
 * 1963  – Kevin Shields, American-Irish singer-songwriter, guitarist, and producer. -- -- -- 21:32, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1984  – Syamsul Yusof, Malaysian actor, film director, scriptwriter, film producer, rapper and singer. -- -- -- 21:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1878 – Glenn Curtiss, American cyclist and engineer (d. 1930)
 * 1928 – Tom Donahue, American radio host and producer (d. 1975). -- -- -- 21:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1416 – Anna of Celje, queen consort of Poland (b. 1386). -- -- -- 19:21, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1920  – Anthony Steel, English actor and singer (d. 2001)
 * 1977  – Ricky Williams, American football player and coach
 * 1978 – Max B, American rapper and songwriter
 * 1983 – Līga Dekmeijere, Latvian tennis player
 * 1984 – Lorena Ayala, Dutch model
 * 1985  – Alison Carroll, English gymnast, model, and actress
 * 1986 – Myra, American singer and actress
 * 1986  – Alexander Noyes, American drummer
 * 2012 – Eddie Blazonczyk, American singer-songwriter (b. 1941)
 * 2012  – Roman Dumbadze, Georgian commander (b. 1964). -- -- -- 20:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 * 1988  – Kaire Leibak, Estonian triple jumper
 * 1995 – Katharina Andresen, Norwegian heiress and equestrian
 * 2012  – Douglas Rodríguez, Cuban boxer (b. 1950)
 * 2015  – Annarita Sidoti, Italian race walker (b. 1969). -- -- -- 20:37, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

several entries were restored. If no one will express opposition I will add more. -- -- -- 19:48, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 * You don't seem to have taken note of the requirement for references. Deb (talk) 12:07, 3 February 2019 (UTC) Sorry, my mistake - I've no objection as long as refs are included. Deb (talk) 12:11, 3 February 2019 (UTC)

IKAROS
Is it possible to double check or move the entry about the launch of IKAROS? The entry says it launched on 20th May! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuddy2977 (talk • contribs) 16:25, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

 * The most accurate external reference I can find is here, where it says:
 * "Date: May 20, 2010 Time: 2158:22 GMT (5:58:22 p.m. EDT) Site: Launch Pad 1, Yoshinobu Launch Complex, Tanegashima, Japan"
 * That translates to 06:58, 21 May in Japan. Kiwipete (talk) 00:13, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

title: Talk:May 21


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Talk:May 22

Leonard F. Morse
Needs an article Rklawton 04:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Tracy Brookshaw
Her article says she was born in 1980, even citing a source, but this page says 1980. TJSwoboda (talk) 15:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

So her article agrees with this page? Is this a problem? --CalendarWatcher (talk) 15:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * D'oh! I fail at basic composition.  It's what Bishop said. TJSwoboda (talk) 01:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Correction: the May 22 article actually says 1975, but her wikipedia article says 1980.Bishop^ (talk) 19:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Champions' League
the game finished after midnight Moscow time so I've moved it from May 21 to May 22. (137.108.145.250 (talk) 15:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC))
 * Football matches are not sufficently important events to be included on Day articles. Jim Michael (talk) 10:56, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Harvey Milk Day
The page for May 22 includes Harvey Milk Day, but in parentheses next to it it says "United States". Harvey Milk Day is celebrated only in California.

Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2014
Please make the page unprotected so other people can edit it!

Please add the following to the page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Luis_Mi%C3%B1ano Spanish footballer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Hig%C3%B3n Spanish footballer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Benedetti Italian runner

71.202.1.48 (talk) 00:31, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: - Added 3 to list. Cannot (and would not) unprotect page. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:00, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

Please discuss
My attention was brought to this page by a filing at DRN. I saw that an edit was made to the article that required review before passing the edit though. Since it was only a revert and was not vandalism I accepted the edit, but it needs discussion here before it gets into an edit war. I suggest all parties come to the talk page for dicussion.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:03, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

For editors that are reverting each other please remember the following when editing the article:

 * The births and deaths listed on this page are only for people for whom there is a Wikipedia article (no red links and no redirects). Please do not add yourself (unless there is a Wikipedia article about you), or anyone without a Wikipedia article. Any entry added for anyone without an article will be deleted.
 * The events listed on this page should be events that are globally notable and will remain so for the foreseeable future. Further guidelines for what should and should not be included are provided at Days of the year. Events not meeting these guidelines will be removed.
 * The formatting of this page is considered static and should not be changed without discussion (and consensus) at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. The formatting is based on the template at WikiProject Days of the year/Template and includes spacing, use of – instead of –, the number of sections, over linking of years, and the use of references.--Mark Miller (talk) 20:33, 19 August 2014 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 18 September 2016
add Lucy Gordon (1980) and Nazanin Boniadi to births. 71.202.1.48 (talk) 22:24, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mlpearc  ( open channel ) 22:35, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
 * WP:DAYS pages do not require on-page references, but must link to a subject article which has a source. Lucy Gordon appears to have a source which identifies her date of birth, though the Nazanin Boniadi page does not.—Laoris (talk) 17:25, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * ✅. Lucy Gordon (actress) added.  Vanjagenije  (talk)  19:16, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

translation of relics of St Nicholas
The listing says "Ukraine", but this is off. First, does the state of Ukraine celebrate this? Or the churches of Ukraine? And only those churches? I would say all churches of Byzantine tradition, but perhaps the Arabs don't. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 15:38, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * There isn't much in the article, Translation of the Relics of Saint Nicholas from Myra to Bari about Ukraine. There is a note that says it is a church wide celebration in the Ukraine.  There are categories (not supported by anything in the article) that it is a tradition in Russia, Belaruse and Ukraine.  Maybe, who created the article' can shed some light on this.  ~ GB fan 16:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
 * What I know is in the article. --evrik (talk) 17:30, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

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Roh Moo-hyun suicide: justification for listing
I briefly explained why former President Roh's suicide was restored to the events list, but it looks like I need to be more specific. His death was not merely the result of natural causes or an accident, as is the case with most of the deaths that are listed on these pages. It was suicide, something that no sitting or prior leader of South Korea had ever done, and only one other Korean leader across thousands of years (Biryu, a Baekje king, in 344) had ever done. This was a unique event in Korean history, and because it was seen by many to have been driven by politics, it has impacted relations between the ruling and opposition parties for years. In other words, the act itself is historically significant beyond just the man's death. -- BlueResistance (talk) 12:18, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Clavijo
Given that the Battle of Clavijo most likely never actually happened, should it even be in an "on this date" list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.18.248.20 (talk) 17:01, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Removal of birth and death entries
Continuing the ongoing effort to reduce the size of the Births and Deaths sections to make them manageable, as well as continuing the globalization effort, I am removing celebrities with few or no articles in other wikipedias, moving the entries to the appropriate Year in Topic article if they were not already present. See discussions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Days of the year. Deb (talk) 11:58, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

World Turtle Day
This seems to be a private initiative. And it's trademarked. I recommend for removal from holidays and obervances.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:36, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2019

 * 1966  – Ryad Al Salek 192.197.82.153 (talk) 13:55, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: This list only includes entries with an existing Wikipedia article based on multiple independent sources. Please take a look at Wikipedia's general notability guideline, and see WP:WTAF for an essay with some additional advice. Thanks, ‑‑ El Hef  ( Meep? ) 14:02, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2021
Add Marvin Hagler's death year, 2021, to the May 23rd entry of his 1954 birth. Source: ABC News March 14, 2021. 2600:1005:B169:899B:2C6E:E1EF:8461:5CBE (talk) 02:00, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅. ◢  Ganbaruby!   (Say hi!) 04:21, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2021

 * 1995 – Constantina Georgiou, Cypriot artist 62.228.167.96 (talk) 14:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:59, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2021

 * 1707 – Carl Linnaeus, Swedish botanist and physician (d. 1778) AGILESWARANGOVIND (talk) 16:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

 * 1778 – Carl Linnaeus, Swedish botanist and physician (b. 1707)

Data missing AGILESWARANGOVIND (talk) 16:39, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ― Qwerfjkl  | 𝕋𝔸𝕃𝕂 (please use  on reply) 20:33, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2021
May 23rd, 2021 is the major Christian feast day of Pentecost in the Western church. This should be added under the "holidays and observances" section for May 23rd, 2021.

Wiki link, including the date of Pentecost: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecost 2605:8D80:5A0:1CB9:9BDE:9502:7B6C:22BE (talk) 12:33, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As noted at WP:DOY, holidays and observances in articles like this are limited to events that occur on the same day each year. ‑‑ El Hef  ( Meep? ) 13:32, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 February 2022
Clyde and Bonnie should be beside each other on the lineup for deaths on May 23rd. They weren't able to be buried together so shouldn't their deaths on a list at least be beside each other? Spicyapplesauce (talk) 21:30, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: that part of the list is alphabetical. In the other part of the list, they are listed on the same line.  RudolfRed (talk) 00:32, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
 * it's been explained to you above that the entries are kept in alphabetical order, so please stop making this change. Thanks, Kiwipete (talk) 08:40, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2023
Could you add Mohamed Ramadan, the Egyptian actor and singer his year of birth was 1988, to (Births)? and my source is: 102.42.131.70 (talk) 11:10, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: the citation that you have given states his date of birth to be 22 May, not 23 May (at least according to the Google Translate version). Can you please verify and make your request at Talk:May 22? Kiwipete (talk) 07:03, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

Fix dash formatting
Under "Rino Wicaksono", "–" should be changed to "&ndash;" to match with the rest of the article and WP:DOYSTYLE

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Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon
This is certainly a notable event. I recommend linking the event to the article (or creating one). That would be an appropriate forum to present research regarding the occupation, withdrawal, and related events. True or not, the deleted sentence is more a matter for such an article than it is for the events section of a date article. Rklawton 21:08, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Great articles! However, the Operation Litani 1978 invasion didn't seem relevant to this particular withdrawal since this withdrawal was from the 1982 invasion.  The Operation Litani withdrawal had been apparently been completed previously.  I agree that the Litani invasion is part of the Israeli invasion history (as stated in the 1982 invasion article) but it's not really part of the withdrawal event that took place on May 25th.  As a result, I removed the Litani reference and reworded the event for clarity.  Folks who click on the invasion link will quickly see the Litani link and hence the history of invasions.  I hope these edits meet with everyone's approval.  Rklawton 03:43, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Israel did not completely withdraw its forces after Litani Operation. See United Nations Security Council Resolution 425. I have started a new article, Liberation Day of Lebanon. Cheers--A rihani 08:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

 * As per the Litani article cited in the event: Lebanon's claim that Israel has not fully withdrawn (see Shebaa Farms) was explicitly rejected by the UN's Secretary-General's report which led to UN Security Council Resolution 1583. I had changed the number of years to 18 for the sake of consistancy between articles.  I trust your proposed article will explore this issue further.  Once the dust settles, please revisit the event on this page.  If the number of years remains in contention, perhaps we should limit the reference in this article to the facts that are not in dispute, namely, Iraeli soldiers withdrew from Lebanon on this day in 2000.  Rklawton 14:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right about the UN Security Council Resolution 1583. This should be included whenever Shebaa Farms is mentioned. You are welcome to edit that page any time :) As for the number of years, I do not understand why it should be subject to dispute. Israeli army partially withdrew from Lebanon after United Nations Security Council Resolution 425 was adopted before invading again in 1982. The Israelis do not deny that and it is obvious in the UN Secretary General report which states that the Israeli army was out of Lebanon as of June 2000. If the Israeli army completely withdrew before 1982, the UN would have reported the withdrawal in accordance with Resolution 425 by that time. Cheers--A rihani 16:02, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I had the impression from the Litani article the UN had reported the full withdrawal. Since you are more familiar with the specifics, could you review these articles and make sure the language is clear enough for everyone to understand?  That's probably how I got confused.  Rklawton 20:35, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right. Litani Operation article is misleading. I think it is not NPOV at all and it needs lots of work. I hope you can help. I have done a quick edit and I will do more later. Cheers--A rihani 21:29, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

New rumor that a disaster that is perdicted to happen
Eric Julien perdicts that this day in 2006, a cataclysmic wave will strike the east coast of america.

Link to his site

Jack Zhang 02:57, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

 * didn't happen.Geni 12:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Carpet Day conflict
I get conflicting information about whether Carpet Day is always celebrated on May 25, or whether it's a floating holiday observed on the last Sunday in May. vs. Joyous! | Talk 15:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Hands Across America
This was the day Hands Across America took place in 1986; I was wondering why this was up but then removed? I put it back up last week, but it's disappeared again. I know it didn't ultimately work, but it was a pretty big day in American history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by UCH-Matt (talk • contribs) 18:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Its nice when people get together to raise money for charities, but its not a notable event. I read the wiki article and it doesn't mention anything significant resulting from this event.  I see no reason to include it. Grouf(talk • contribs) 16:58, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

It does seem rather significant that several million people participated in an event together all at once. That sort of thing does not happen every day. Thoughts? LiquidInkspot (talk) 02:55, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Nerd Pride Day
I tried to add Nerd Pride Day under "Holidays and observances", which I think is fitting, but it has been removed several times already. I see it rather equivalent to Towel Day and other similar holidays, but appearently someone disagrees with me. That may not be the part that worries me the most; I got several messages calling my edit "unconstructive" (I can't see how it is any different from the other links) and I was also called a "vandal". That is ridiculous. It may not fit in the article in your eyes, but I'm not a Vandal.

80.212.173.184 (talk) 09:27, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

 * If it's notable enough to have a Wikipedia article -- and it does, at least for now -- it's notable enough to be in this list. The article has a Notability flag, but unless/until it's removed, there's no reason not to treat it consistently and list it here. TJRC (talk) 15:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Having an article does NOT mean it is notable, certainly not on a global, regional, or even national scale. And having an article is not and has never been sufficient grounds for inclusion for anything other than birth and death listings for individuals, so the mere existence of an article--and a very weak article it is--is a complete non-starter as an argument for inclusion. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

 * See WP:Notability: "Within Wikipedia, notability is an inclusion criterion based on encyclopedic suitability of a topic for a Wikipedia article." Notability is definitely a criterion for inclusion of an article.  And it's obviously not a non-starter, as we've started, haven't we? TJRC (talk) 05:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Except that's the general ARTICLE criteria and not the specific standards regarding the Days of the Year articles, so--to repeat--the mere existence of an article is a complete non-starter--i.e.; unrelated--as a standard for THESE pages. Are there any other bits of out-of-context and inapplicable citations you'd like to bring up? --CalendarWatcher (talk) 11:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Calendarwatcher, keep it civil.TJRC (talk) 14:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe I have a solution. Include the release of Star Wars in 1977, and say later that it spurred a holiday--Nerd Pride Day. PTPLauthor (talk) 15:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

 * I have added the release of Star Wars to the Events section with links to Jediism and Geek Pride Day in the description. While there is question over whether Geek Pride Day is notable enough to include in the list of holidays, the release of Star Wars unquestionably fulfills the requirements of notability, having also been the inspiration for a religion that has attracted tens of thousands of followers worldwide in just over 30 years. (Please note that whether or not you take Jediism seriously does not impact whether its followers do.) Also, as stated in the discussion page for Geek Pride Day, the word "nerd" is considered derogatory and should not be used interchangeably with "geek". Caben42 (talk) 00:12, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

It's back as "Geek Pride Day". I suggest it be removed from here. It seems to be a private initiative. Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:44, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * should be removed. any arguments? it does not to fit definition of what is to be in this. 2607:FEA8:D5DF:1AF0:59A5:255D:EFE7:DF65 (talk) 15:29, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Celtic F.C. Europeon Cup Win 1967
I tried to add Celtic F.C. 1967 European Champions Cup win under "Events", which I think is appropriate, but it has been removed several times.

My entry is: 1967 – Celtic F.C. become the first northern European team to win the European Champions Cup, which had previously been the preserve of Italian, Portuguese and Spanish clubs by beating F.C. Internazionale Milano 2 – 1.

I see an equivalent event entry for: 1968 - Manchester United win the European Cup, the first English Club to do so.

Celtic F.C.’s 1967 European Cup win is a greater and more notable achievement than Manchester United’s 1968 win that is already listed in the calendar for MAY 29.

First, I was informed by CalendarWatcher that “that's REALLY stretching notability”.

Second, that “it's a ridiculously artificial distinction made in order to claim some sort of distinction”.

Third, that “you've drawn a purely artificial line ('first northern European club'? Can't bring yourself to say 'British', can you?) claim a distinction of no real import)”.

In response let me point out that this is a notable sports achievement listed in the Events of 1967 Wikipedia page, and the term “first northern European team” is a quote taken from both the Celtic F.C. and May 1967 Wikipedia pages.

Northern Europe is a destinct area as define by the United Nations and descibed in Wikipedia as is Eastern Europe and Southern Europe.

Celtic's achievement went far beyond the British isles.

I think the Istanbul miracle should be added too. User:miroa12004 —Preceding undated comment added 21:50, 2 June 2009 (UTC).

Irl32csc (talk) 13:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I've added this again since it seems to have been removed. --Connelly90[AlbaGuBràth] (talk) 10:00, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

 * This has been removed again, with "local observance" cited as one of the reasons. I believe this is relevant as Celtic were the first Northern European team to win the European Cup and so I think it is more relevant to a wider audience than, for example, US labour strikes that are also mentioned here. Also, if the relevence of this is questioned then you must also question the relevance of US athlete Jessie Owens breaking world records. --Connelly90[AlbaGuBràth] (talk) 12:21, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

2008: Parkersburg, IA tornado
Is this natural disaster notable enough for inclusion in this list? --David7581 (talk) 00:14, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Date page needs a new section: "Objects?"
The main page can use a new redirection section of things or objects which are named for dates in various cultures. E.g., Veinticinco de Mayo. 143.232.210.38 (talk) 18:03, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Big Ten Conference Track and Field Championships
On this page, it says that Owens broke five world records and tied a sixth, however on the Jesse Owens page, it says that he broke three and tied a forth. I do not know which one is correct, however this inconsistency should be corrected. POTUS270 12:37, 25 May 2010 (UTC) timestamp fixed by -- Mufka (u)|undefined (t) (c) 11:15, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Presumably the Jesse Owens article is sourced. And since this date article gets its source from that Jesse Owens article, it should reflect what is in that article.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 11:07, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

Gul Ahmed Joyo
Gul Ahmed Joyo Born on 25th May 1986, In Pakistan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.184.77.26 (talk) 08:23, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Why is memorial day 2015 not listed? I googled May 25 to see why it was highlighted on my calendar and the wiki page had no reference, even though it has hundreds of references to historic events and trivial stuff like a list of birthdays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.67.230.16 (talk) 18:15, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

"Day of Youth"
When you go to "Day of Youth" (which is rather "Youth Day" when you get there) you discover that it "was celebrated throughout the former Yugoslavia". Is this list of "holidays and observances" meant to include holidays or observances that no longer exist? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:52, 25 May 2015 (UTC) ok, I've removed it. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:46, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Towel Day
not notable, seems like a club activity. I suggest it be removed from here. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 12:49, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am to agree. Should to be deleted. any debate?--2607:FEA8:D5DF:1AF0:59A5:255D:EFE7:DF65 (talk) 15:31, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Central Park birdwatching incident
On May 25, 2020, an incident at Central Park happened. A white woman, Amy Cooper, called the police after a black man Christian Cooper (no relation) told Amy to put her dog on a leash. It happened on the same day as the murder of George Floyd. Both incidents gained international attention due to both being about racism against Black Americans. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flossingjonah (talk • contribs) 19:57, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
 * That was a relatively minor event. I'm not familiar with how we decide what to include in this list, but this does not seem worth including to me. I've undone the proposed change pending consensus to include it here. Meters (talk) 20:13, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Shavuot
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavuot 217.180.216.89 (talk) 02:48, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

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Suggestions for removal
- "May 27, 2006: The final of the 2006 Super 14 will be played." I fail to see the encyclopedic relevance of this fact; finals in sports tournaments are played all over the world on any given day. (Btw, May 27th is my birthday too :-)
 * Agree. Be Bold. --nsandwich 03:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Question
Should the fact that every comic paid tribute to peanuts on this day in 2000? LazyLaces 13:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC) dorkwad —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.200.107.166 (talk) 05:07, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * No, because it was not an important world event; it was merely tributes to its writer from other cartoonists. Jim Michael (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

2006 Java earthquake
May 26 and 27 have the Java Earthquake listed as an event. One needs to be removed, but I am not sure of the true date. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.91.171.42 (talk) 13:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Cellophane Tape Day
Perhaps a silly observation, but there are many such observations in Wikipedia and posted on calendar days. May 27 is the anniversary of the cellophane tape patent, and it is referenced as well. theprez98 (talk) 13:40, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This is not an observance. No one celebrates it and it isn't the subject of an article as is required by WP:DOY.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 14:02, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * To be fair, you can't really say that "no one celebrates it" without having actual knowledge; but your point about WP:DOY is well-taken. Maybe their should be such an article! theprez98 (talk) 17:46, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
 * It is not observed by a significant number of people, hence no article about it should be created. Jim Michael (talk) 22:01, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Dragon Warrior
Bringing this here per WP:BRD. I believe this meets the definition of being important as its only systemic bias that caused it to be removed. If you look at the impact the game and the franchise has had on the industry and on the nation of Japan you will see how important the date is. It is also marked on of the few clear turning points in video game history by RSes and as such a date can be assigned. ∞ 陣  内  Jinnai  18:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Model T Ford
"1927 – The Ford Motor Company ceases manufacture of the Ford Model T and begins to retool plants to make the Ford Model A."

The wikipedia page for the Model T ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Model_T#Production ) says "On May 26, 1927 Henry Ford and his son Edsel, drove the 15 millionth Model T out of the factory. This marked the famous automobile's official last day of production at the main factory." Either this page should be clarified to the exact meaning, a source added, or this item moved to the previous day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.217.33.146 (talk) 23:12, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

The Venerable Bede
According to his Wikipedia [|entry], Bede’s feast day is on either the 25th or 27th May.

The entry on the Roman Calender says it’s on the 25th.

Can we get this clarified, please?

Cuddy2977 (talk) 16:26, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Toddst1 (talk) 18:46, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Eric Morecambe's date of death
can you please confirm Eric's date of death? The Graham McGann reference you use is also used on his page (footnote 20), to support the claim that "he died just before 3 a.m on Monday 28 May". Cheers, Kiwipete (talk) 09:37, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

Larry Kramer - LGBT activist?
In the Larry Kramer article I don't see any explicit activism by Kramer on behalf of lesbians or bisexual or transgender people, so is "LGBT" activist correct? JezGrove (talk) 23:24, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

 * Yes, good question, @JezGrove. His article refers to him as a "gay rights activist". Maybe that should be used. @OwenBlacker - this was an entry you added on 28 May 2020 - do you have any comments? Kiwipete (talk) 23:32, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The terms are broadly synonymous and what we called "gay rights activism" in the 1970s and 1980s is generally called "LGBT rights activism" now; it's generally only transphobes who try to use less-inclusive terms — though, to be clear, I am not suggesting that is the rationale for this discussion.
 * For references using the term "LGBT":
 * The Lancet's obit uses "LGBT activist"
 * The Montgomery Fellows Program at Dartmouth College describes him as an "LGBT rights activist"
 * as does The Cooper Union's video about him
 * Other obituaries using "LGBT activist" or "LGBT rights" include: NBC, San Francisco Chronicle, Windy City Times, Timeline Theatre Company and Pink Alliance Hong Kong
 * Virginia Film Festival described him as a "distinguished playwright and LGBT rights activist" in his biog (when he was alive, so will presumably have been approved personally or by his agent)
 * The ALA's Rainbow Round Table describes him as an "LGBT/AIDS activist" in their review of his biopic
 * Author pages on OUT magazine and POZ.com author pages both refer to "LGBT" rights
 * AnOther magazine describes "Kramer’s impact in the LGBTQ community, for whom he fought for equality and attention, is undeniably vast"
 * Brandon Cuicchi from ACT UP NYC repeatedly mentions "LGBT" and "LGBTQ" in his comments to Newsweek's obit
 * the foundation set up at Yale by his brother is called the "Larry Kramer Initiative for Lesbian and Gay Studies"
 * similarly, his brother's law firm refers to "LGBTQ Rights"
 * "LGBT rights" is the term we tend to use across Wikipedia — and indeed is how we name the User Group affiliate: Wikimedia LGBT+ —  OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 12:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

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Why are harambe edits being reverted? We need to write about his execution. 184.91.99.69 (talk) 15:08, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that is because people kept adding that name to non-harambe articles, such as this edit to Uptown Funk. That is why the name Harambe is pink blood. You see, when this event was newer, it somehow turned into a meme, and thus an edit filter was made to prevent this. Great way to ruin this name for everyone else as well. Many legitimate users, as you can see at the comprehensive abuse filter log for this article, tried to add this event under 2016, and they were greeted with an error message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.189.182.7 (talk) 02:41, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

reverted my unsourced 1990 addition, that's okay
@Bruce1ee, I apologize, I guess I still don't know how to cite stuff correctly on Wikipedia. The reason I didn't cite a Wikipedia article is because there is no article on the 1990 Arab Baghdad summit. It seemed obscure but noteworthy. So I took from the 1991 Gulf War a BBC production. But I guess I knew I should've cited but was nervous on how to. DOesn't excuse it. But now that I think about it, The Gulf War article might have something on this, I will go look, I could cite the documentary now on Youtube, I could cite the gulf war article if there is something on it, or i could cite the article linked in the gulf war wikiarticle if there is one, or just an article from the internet if there is none on wikipedia about it.

Your thoughts on the best course of action? SmileyTrek (talk) 16:40, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

 * It is also important to note that I made a similar unsourced addition to 1990, but I didn't get an uncited sources warning but i think there was a references section idk. SmileyTrek (talk) 16:42, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @SmileyTrek: All entries in day-of-the-year pages require that a Wikipedia article on the subject be linked, and that (in the case of new additions) a reliable source supporting the entry be cited. See WP:DOY. Year pages, like 1990 don't have the same requirements. —Bruce1eetalk 17:16, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay, well I'm not going to cite this in here until I find the source the BBC used, if it was the BBC itself I'll recite it but I found a familiar quote from the Iraqi foreign minister in a wikipedia article, that's it. i think the source there is a JSTOR article, I'll make sure to source before I add to day-of-the-year pages. Thank you SmileyTrek (talk) 17:28, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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Validity of events
If an event such as the victor of the Indianapolis 500 were included in this page, I can see why some people feel it of less importance than the events transpiring of world import, such as those of Tianenmen Square in 1989; however, if they are still factual, might there be a way to include them still, such as differentiating between sporting events and politics, and so forth? I will in fact do this, and hopefully the disambiguation in importance is not felt to still be frivolous, as I can only assume it was previously. --4.225.19.109 18:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
 * there exist already articles such as 1976 in sports, but no articles such as May 30 in sports. i suppose if someone were interested, they could make all 366 day in sports pages. Kingturtle 21:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Putting your own birthdays on Day of the Year articles
Are we allowed to? Zweinstein 01:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No. --CalendarWatcher 03:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Not unless you have a substantial Wikipedia article and are notable. Any ordinary people who are added should be removed as soon as possible. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 14:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

V-2 Rocket, off-course, falls near Juarez
This is an item that is interesting from May 30th. German V-2 rocket rocks Juarez Mexico —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.197.113.33 (talk) 04:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Fake Person? Inconsequential Person?
I think this entry is a fake person or an inconsequential person.

1986 – William S. Mick "185668232", American activist, artist, musician.

There is no Wikipedia article that I can find. I've done a Google search for "william s. mick activist artist musician" and only two links came up: this page (May 30), and a sample "Harmonic Life Astro Chart" on the Harmonic Life Dating website (http://www.harmoniclife.com/sample.aspx?SampleID=227445).

There is a Facebook page "185668232" (http://www.facebook.com/oneeightfivesixsixeighttwothreetwo). "185668232" has authored two entries in Urban Dictionary (http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=185668232).

Chuck Coker (talk) 01:18, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Anything that does not link to a bio article should be removed on sight. No explanation is needed.  You'll waste an awful lot of time if you try to research every one you see.  That's why the basic guideline is so simple.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:27, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

2015 – Society event of the year in North Wales, the forthcoming wedding of David and Laura
No surname given. Is this notable? Robata (talk) 21:19, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Andrew Jackson & Charles Dickinson
I have removed the claim that the duel between Jackson and Dickinson was due to Dickinson's accusation that Jackson's wife was a bigamist; although many did make that accusation (and indeed their marriage was at first, technically, bigamist), there is no indication in the article on Dickinson that he had done so, and quite a length explanation of the cause of the duel that doesn't mention it. GoldenRing (talk) 16:11, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Holidays and observations - add St Madelgisilus
May 30, as per relevant article. ref Butler's Lives of the Saints--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 23:53, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Holidays and observations - add St Anastasius of Pavia
as per his Wiki article, and ref. http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_30th--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:06, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Holidays and observations - add St Emmelia (Emily)
add St Emmelia of Caesarea (ref Roman Martyrology)--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC) also her husband Basil the Elder Same reference, where they are mentioned as a couple. Wikipedia has them in separate articles. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 00:29, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Holidays and observations - add St Walstan
as per his Wiki article, with ref. Butler's Lives of the Saints

Immaculate Heart of Mary
It is seemingly original research to say "20 days after Pentecost" - it is stated to be the day after Sacred Heart. Is there a good source for this 20 days business? --142.163.194.66 (talk) 11:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

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Šubić family

The Šubić family, also known initially as Bribirščić (Berberistich, Broborstic, Breberstic, Breberienses), was one of the Twelve noble tribes of Croatia and a great noble house which constituted Croatian statehood in the Middle Ages. They held the county of Bribir (Varvaria) in inland Dalmatia. They with their prominent branch Zrinski (1347–1703) were arguably the leading noble family of Croatia for almost 500 years.

Origins
Today Bribir is an archaeological site in inland Dalmatia. It is located on a flat hill about fifteen kilometres northwest of Skradin, near the old Zadar road which goes through Benkovac. Under the steep rocks of its western side there is the source of the Bribirčica stream and from here the rich and fertile Bribir-Ostrovica field spreads out. The hill of Bribir, an ideal place to control the surrounding territory, was a perfect area to inhabit. The one who held it had control over all roads and approaches from the sea to the hinterland, making it an ideal settlement.

During the Roman period Bribir, known as Varvaria, had the status of municipium and was the centre of one of the fourteen Liburnian counties. The Byzantine emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus wrote in the 10th century about the Croats settling in Dalmatia in the 7th century and described how they had organised their country into eleven counties (zupanias) one of which was Breberi, centred on site of the old Varvaria (Moravcsik & Jenkins, eds. 1967). A line of hills separated it from the territory of Knin to the north and to the south it bordered on Skradin. It was held by a kindred that in coeval documents is referred to as nobiles, comites or principes Breberienses (nobles, counts or rulers of Breber, "knezovi Bribirski" in Croatian). These Breberienses belonged to the Šubić tribe from Luka županija, one of the twelve tribes which composed Croatian statehood in the Middle Ages, and according to the Supetar Cartulary, they were one of six tribes which selected bans who, in turn, elected a new king in a case where the prior king died without leaving heirs. In 1182 was mentioned noble Tolimir filius Stephani Subici in the hinterland of Zadar, in 1248 some noble Subinich were on the island of Krk, while Mladen III Banić (1342) and Paul III Banić (1345) were first members of the main line of Bribir to be called seu generationis Subichievich.

Original coat of arms
The original coat of arms of this clan of nobles is a wing argent on a shield gules. The crest is a sprig of barberry. Argent and gules were the colours of the Croatian kindreds that sided with the papal party such as the lords of Krk (before they took on the shield of the Roman Frangipani), the Gusić, the Mogorović and the Hrvatinić, and still are those of Croatia.

The device could be derived from the winged shield standard of the royal chamberlain, a post held by Budez postelnic berberensis jupanus (1069). Wings are common, especially as a crest, in later Croatian heraldry. This could be accounted by the numerous familiares of the powerful Zrins who kept the Breber device in their coat of arms.

Timeline
In recent history books whenever members of this kindred are mentioned in relation to their prominent role in the 13th and 14th centuries the surname of Šubić is conferred upon them by the historian. This was not the way that the members called themselves at the time. During the Middle Ages every man in Croatia bore four names: the name given at baptism, the patronym, the name of his kindred which was also the name of the settlement in which he lived, and his tribal affiliation (Jirecek, 1967). When, with the introduction of feudalism, king Bela confirmed the kindred in their possession of Breber (1251) this name would again be used to identify them since by then the custom was to be called after one's premier fief. Thus, in the period from 1069 to the destruction of the county by the Turks in 1520, the many personages of the clan that emerge from the original Latin documents qualify themselves as de Breberio preceded by their Christian name and patronym; only rarely do they add their tribal affiliation.

The seal of Paul I Šubić of Bribir (born in 1312), the greatest figure of the clan, has the following lettering on it: "+ S(IGILLVM) PAVLI BREBERIENSIS BANI TOCIVS SCLAVONIE"Another seal of the same man has: "PAVLVS DE BREBERIO BANVS CROATORVM D[OMI]N[V]S ET BOSNE"Thus, in the vulgar the surname would be Breber or some variant (Breberić, Brebrić, Barbier, Barber, Barberich, etc.). The 19th century erudite Croatian historians who wrote the first history books for the public opted for Šubić which, in the ardent nationalistic spirit of the time, sounded reassuringly Slavic as compared to Breber.

During the reign of Demetrius Zvonimir (1075–1089), the mythical golden age of the Kingdom of Croatia, the highest court offices of postelnik (comes camerarius) and tepizo (comes palatinus) were held by Budez and Dominicus, both of the lineage. During the 13th and 14th centuries Brebers were many times called to cover the post of count in the townships of Split, Trogir, Skradin and Omiš, primarily clashing with Domald of Sidraga, Kačić and Nelipić family. In the documents, it is possible to identify six different branches of the Breber clan. The most illustrious of which is the one descended from iupanus Miroslaus Brebriensis, filius Bogdanizi (1184). His great-grandson Paul, mentioned above, reached the peak of power towards the end of the 13th century. He was Ban of Croatia and Dalmatia, his rule extended to Bosnia, and with his brothers he controlled the maritime cities of Dalmatia. In these regions he was champion of the Pope and was instrumental in placing Charles, the firstborn of the King of Naples, on the throne of Hungary and Croatia. He was related to the King of Naples, the King of Serbia, the Da Camino lords of Treviso, and the Tiepolo and Dandolo patricians of Venice. When he died in 1312, his eldest son Mladen tried to maintain the hold over the other Croatian clans, but was unsuccessful and bit by bit lost land, castles and towns.

Decline
Besides these particular offshoots which went their separate ways, a numerous kin continued to abide by the ancient holding of Breber. In 1324 when the citizenship of Zadar was conferred on the nobiles domini de Briberio, 190 members of the clan presented themselves for the investiture. In 1353 the Ottoman Turks crossed the Dardanelles and began their invasion of Europe. In the 15th century Bosnia was already a pashalik from where raids would be carried into Croatia-Dalmatia. The feudal levies and the clan warriors had no hope against the Turkish war machine and met their fate in the battle of Krbavsko Polje (1493). The castle of Breber was caught on the front between the Turkish, Hungarian and Venetian armies and by 1520 had become a desolate waste of rubble. Last news giving the comites Breberienses still in their ancient seat is in the diocesan synod of Skradin held at the time of bishop Archangel (1490–1502). The Turkish terror displaced large portions of the population of Dalmatia-Croatia. Some sought refuge in the cities of the coast, some crossed the sea to Italy, others, especially those belonging to the nobility, resettled to the north in that part of Slavonia still under the crown of Hungary-Croatia. Their clan organisation definitely disrupted, the single Breber families settled in various places in the county of Zagreb (Comitatus Zagrabiensis) (Adamcek & Kampus, 1976). In the second half of the 16th century we find one nucleus settled in Turopolje (Campus Zagrabiensis) where they joined the free community of lesser nobles (nobiles unius sessionis). Another group established itself at Stubica and other places in the Zagorje region, where one branch, the counts Jankovic Bribirsky, owned the Horvatska manor in the 17th century and remained one of the prominent local families till the 20th century. Breber families are still living in these places to this day.

Zrinski branch
In 1347 King Louis I of Hungary conferred on this branch of the Brebers, in the persons of Count Gregory and Count George (Grgur and Juraj in Croatian), respectively son and nephew of Ban Paul, the Zrin Castle (in exchange for the strategically important castle of Ostrovica, their last holding outside of ancestral Bribir. This branch would be known by the surname of Zrin (but also variously a Zrinio, Zrinski, Zrínyi, Zrini, de Serin, Sdrin following Latin, contemporary Croatian, Hungarian, French, or Italian usage) which rose to its height of fame and glory with Count Nikola IV (1508–1566), the hero of Szigetvár, and with Count Nikola VII (1620–1664), the Scourge of the Ottomans.

Mark Forstall (or Marcus Forstall), the secretary of the latter, compiled a history of the Zrins, tracing it back to the Brebers, to the tribe of Šubić, and from there to the Roman gens Sulpicia which, according to Suetonius, sprang from the love of Zeus for Pasiphaë. Even the illustrious erudite Charles Ducange (1610–1688) mentions these fabulous origins in his Illyrici Veteris et Novi, p. 237:"Dynastae in Zrinio magno semper in Dalmatia, et in Croatia potentatu gaudebant, primum ante anno 1347. Breberiensium, deinde Zriniorum nomine cogniti: Comites Breberienses ex antiquo Sulpitorum Romanorum genere orti, Subich a Dalmatis patrio cognominabantur sermone."A feeling for classical antiquity was a cultural feature of the Renaissance and the wish to establish a link with the great tradition of Rome was a common vanity of those times. The claim of the Zrins, however, is not totally groundless. During the times of the Roman Empire, Dalmatia was a senatorial province and would have affiliations with the patrician families of the capital. P. Sulpicius Rufus was governor of Illyricum around 45 B.C. and could have established a settlement of clientes here, as was the general custom during Roman rule. Varvaria was a Roman municipium under Italic law but was actually enrolled in the tribe Claudia. Archaeological evidence at Bribir shows no sign of interruption of human occupation between the Roman municipium and the arrival of the Croats. This belonging of the Breberienses to the universe of Rome is revealed by their emergence to power in the time when Croatia was placed under papal suzerainty during the reign of Zvonimir (1075–1089), and also when later they bitterly fought and defeated (1227) the Kacic kindred, champions of the heretical party. And later still when the Pope would address ban Mladen as dilectus filius (1319). Other kindreds and families in Croatia and Dalmatia like the Karin, the Babonić, the Frankopan, the Gusić and some of the patrician families from the maritime cities also claimed a similar link with Rome.

Count Martino Zrinski or Sdrigna, was born in 1462 and was the son of Count Peter II and brother of Nikola III, father of Nikola IV, the one who is referred to in history as Nikola the Great Zrinski of Siget (Szigetvár in Hungarian). Martino Zrinski was the first member of the Zrinski family to live in Cefalonia, Greece. He adopted the name of Sdrin or Sdrinia.

Other branches
Another branch of the Breber clan, descended from Peter living at the beginning of the 14th century, owed its rise to having remained unshakeably loyal to Sigismund of Luxemburg, the future Holy Roman Emperor (1411), in his struggle for the crown of Hungary-Croatia against King Ladislaus of Naples. Nikola, James and John, nobiles de Breberio, were confirmed in their possessions. James was nominated Viceban. The family also received the castle of Perna with all the appurtenances. This family was then known as Perényi (Peranski in Croatian, or Peransky, de Perén, a Pernya in other languages) and was numbered among the magnates of Hungary up to the 20th century. Gabriel Perényi and bishop Francis Perényi fell fighting in the fateful Battle of Mohács (29 August 1526).

Another family branch that rose to wealth and power were the descendants of Ugrinus (died 1335). Known under the nickname of Melić, then Melith, which later became their surname, they obtained vast estates in Transylvania.

Members of the House of Šubić

 * Stjepko Šubić, Count of Trogir
 * Pavao I Šubić of Bribir (1245–1312), Count of Bribir, Ban of Croatia and Lord of all Bosnia
 * Mladen II Šubić of Bribir (1270–1343), Count of Bribir, Ban of Croatia, Ban of Bosnia and Lord of the all Bosnia
 * Katarina Šubić (?–1358), married Duke of Legnica-Brzeg Bolesław III the Generous in 1326.
 * Juraj II Šubić of Bribir (1275–1330), Count of Bribir and Split, ruled from Klis Fortress
 * Pavao III Šubić of Bribir (?–1356), married Catherina Dandolo from Venice
 * Katarina Šubić, married Ivan Jurišić Bribirski
 * Deodat Šubić (?–1348)
 * Mladen III Šubić of Bribir (1315–1348), "Shield of the Croats", ruled from Klis Fortress, married Jelena Nemanjić, a daughter of Stephen Uroš III of Serbia
 * Mladen IV Šubić of Bribir
 * Senko Šubić of Bribir
 * Radics
 * Bielak
 * Jelena Šubić (1306–1378), married to Vladislaus of Bosnia, regent of medieval Bosnia.
 * Pavao II Šubić of Bribir (?–1346), Count of Trogir and Ostrovica, married Elizabeth Frankopan (Elizabeta Krčka)
 * Juraj III Šubić of Bribir (Juraj I Zrinski) (?–1362)
 * Elizabeth, married Tamás of Corbavia
 * Pavao (1414)
 * Pribko
 * Katharina, a nun
 * Grgur I Šubić of Bribir, Count of Šibenik
 * Juraj I Šubić of Bribir (1277–1302), Count of Trogir, Šibenik, Omiš and Nin, ruled from Klis Fortress
 * Ivan (1358)
 * Mladen I Šubić of Bribir (?–1304), Count of Split, Ban of Bosnia (Dominus of Bosnia), ruled from Klis Fortress after Juraj I's death
 * Stanislava Šubić (?–1304), a beatified noblewoman and nun
 * a daughter (1330–?), married to Jacopo Tiepolo

List of consulted works

 * The expanding Šubić family, the princes of Bribir, in the book Southeastern Europe in the Middle ages, 500-1250 - Author: Florin Curta
 * Croatian scientific bibliography: Supporting the Angevin pretenders - the Šubić of Bribir and installation of the Angevins in the Kingdom of Hungary-Croatia - Author: Damir Karbi
 * Princes of Bribir in the medieval Croatian state
 * Croatian noblemen of Šubić, the princes of Bribir, in the book Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Serbian claims - Author: Martin Davorin Krmpotić
 * Princes of Bribir in the Croatian history, chapter The Extinction of the Arpad Dynasty - Author: Marko Marelić
 * Epitaph of Mladen III Šubić, prince of Bribir
 * Rady M. 2000. Nobility, Land and Service in Medieval Hungary. Palgrave ed. 231 pp.

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Talk:May 31

Ramesses II
"1279 BC - Ramesses II becomes Pharaoh of Egypt."

So... how was this determined, pray tell? Even the year is debated. 31 May seems rather unusually precise.

→ ''' P. Mac Uidhir''' (t)  (c)  17:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes, same with Genghis Khan. Not sure how's his birth is attributed to May 31 when there's no mention of that on his article, and the year is even contested. Thiseye (talk) 14:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Give Peace a Chance
On the Give Peace a Chance page, it states that the song was recorded on June 1st and not May 31st as listed here. CWPappas 04:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

2002 date?
Does the death of one person in one storm that destroyed one building make a significant enough impact on history to be considered an important "this day in history"? I suggest deleting this entry, or putting it only in the discussion age. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.15.127.254 (talk) 20:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Gaza flotilla clash
Mufka; you are probably right. Only time will tell if this event is notable enough for an almanac entry. It's mentioned in wikinews which may be enough. At any rate this one will probably attract the partisan editors.--Phyllis1753 (talk) 14:42, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, unless this event leads directly to notably escalated tensions (a war), it shouldn't be included. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 10:37, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I am not experienced at editing and I am not sure how to handle the inclusion of propaganda in otherwise factual accounts. I removed an unsubstantiated allegation that the peace activists on the flotilla were terrorists armed with knives and metal rods and after an Israeli commando had been abducted. This is clearly the version put out by the Israeli government but it is not supported by eye witnesses accounts of the activists or even logic. It is my understanding that this entry was seen by Bsadowski1 whose user page identifies him as a Wikipedia Administrator who combats "vandalism and abuse" on Wikipedia and I want it understood that my removal of Israeli propaganda should not be represented as either vandalism or abuse. OrodesIII (talk) 05:38, 31 May 2012 (UTC)OrodesIII

Whoever removed this entry ought to explain their reason as a courtesy to the rest of us. OrodesIII (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2012 (UTC)OrodesIII

Since Rlbarton did not provide an explanation for removing this entry, I restored it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OrodesIII (talk • contribs) 03:48, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Accession date of Ramesses II
Currently, the "events" section leads with:

 * 1279 BC – Ramesses II (The Great) (19th dynasty) becomes pharaoh of Ancient Egypt.

As of yesterday, I removed that item, since it was unsourced and struck me as highly dubious (even if we know his accession date in the Egyptian calendar, it strikes me as very iffy to say that it corresponds with a precise day in our modern Gregorian calendar, which didn't exist in any form at the time).

User:Baking Soda reverted that link, and added a source--but the source strikes me as highly dubious: http://www.crystalinks.com/Ramesses_II.html ; crystalinks.com is basically a new-age blog, and the Ramesses II page is copied from an old version of the Wikipedia article Ramesses II. (Our page hasn't included the May 31 date for a couple of years.)

I raised this on User Talk:Baking Soda; they responded that the accession date in the ancient Egyptian calendar is well-established (III Shemu 27) and asserted that this corresponds to "May 31/June 1". I don't want to get into an edit war here, but I think we need a reliable source both for the accession date, and for how we map the Egyptian calendar to our Gregorian dates. So I'm marking the fact/cite as "dubious" and I'm hoping others will weigh in? — Narsil (talk) 23:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

 * Moved to June 1 with two more reliable sources. Baking Soda (talk) 23:20, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

 * Those sources look better, but still pretty iffy--both are self-published, it looks like. And like I said, it strikes me as pretty dubious in the first place to say "this date in the ancient Egyptian calendar matches precisely to this date in a calendar that wouldn't exist for centuries". Still, if nobody else weighs in, I'll drop it. — Narsil (talk) 23:33, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

 * Agree sources are not authoritative, perhaps a footnote pointing out that accession is on "III Shemu 27" Egyptian calendar (probably sourced from Papyrus/Graffito (archaeology)) and that Gregorian calendar date is an approximation. Info should also be added to Ramesses II, added pointer to this discussion on talk page there... Baking Soda (talk) 23:45, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Petronilla piped as Petronella
Petronella is listed as a form of the name; is there a reason it is preferred over Petronilla or the other forms?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

suggested add. Holidays and observances: Crescentian
Crescentian on this day, as per ref in article, and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

suggested add. Cantius, Cantianus, and Cantianilla
Cantius, Cantianus, and Cantianilla fest. this day, ref as in article and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:19, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

suggested add. Saint Hermias
Saint Hermias on this day as per article, and http://www.boston-catholic-journal.com/roman-martrylogy-in-english/roman-martyrology-may-in-english.htm#May_31st --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 13:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Pentecost Sunday
Pentecost Sunday is on this date in 2020, it should be added under holidays and observances. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supevan (talk • contribs) 20:31, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

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Pierre Drieu La Rochelle

Pierre Eugène Drieu La Rochelle (3 January 1893 – 15 March 1945) was a French writer of novels, short stories, and political essays. He was born, lived and died in Paris. Drieu La Rochelle became a proponent of French fascism in the 1930s, and was a well-known collaborationist during the German occupation. He is best known for his books Le Feu Follet and Gilles.

Early life
Drieu was born into a middle class family from Normandy, based in the 17th arrondissement of Paris. His father was an unsuccessful lawyer who relied on his wife's dowry and ended up squandering it, being "responsible for a sharp decline in the family's social status" by the time of his son's adolescence.

Although a brilliant student, Pierre failed his final exam at the École Libre des Sciences Politiques. Wounded three times, his experience as a soldier during World War I had a deep influence on him and marked him for the rest of his life.

In 1917, Drieu married Colette Jéramec, the sister of a Jewish friend. They divorced in 1921. Sympathetic to Dada and to the Surrealists and the Communists, and a close friend of Louis Aragon in the 1920s, he was also interested in the royalist Action Française, but refused to adhere to any one of these political currents. He wrote Mesure de la France ("Measure of France") in 1922, which gave him some small notoriety, and edited several novels. He later (beginning in the 1930s) embraced fascism and antisemitism.

In Drieu's political writings, he argued that the parliamentary system (the gouvernement d'assemblée of the French Third Republic) was responsible for what he saw as the "decadence" of France (economic crisis, declining birth rates, etc.). In his essays "Le Jeune Européen" ("European Youth", 1927) and "Genève ou Moscou" ("Geneva or Moscow", 1928), Drieu La Rochelle advocated a strong Europe and denounced the "decadent materialism" of democracy. He believed that a federal Europe could bolster a strong economic and political union isolated from the imperialist Russians and Americans; in 1939 he came to believe that only Nazi Germany could deliver such an autarkian promise.

His pro-European views expressed in 1928 were soon followed by closer contacts with employers' organizations, among them Ernest Mercier's Redressement Français, and then, at the end of the 1920s and the beginning of the 1930s, with some currents of the Radical Party.

Fascism and collaboration
As late as 1931, in his essay L'Europe contre les patries ("Europe Against the homelands"), Drieu was writing as an anti-Hitlerian, but by 1934, especially after the 6 February 1934 riots organized by far right leagues before the Palais Bourbon, and then a visit to Nazi Germany in September 1935 (where he witnessed the Reichsparteitag rally in Nuremberg), he embraced Nazism as an antidote to the "mediocrity" of liberal democracy. After the 6 February 1934 riots, he contributed to the review La Lutte des Jeunes and reinvented himself as a fascist. The title of his October 1934 book Socialisme Fasciste ("Fascist Socialism") was representative of his politics at the time. In it, he described his discontent with Marxism as an answer to France's problems. He wrote that he found inspiration in Georges Sorel, Fernand Pelloutier, and the earlier French socialism of Saint-Simon, Charles Fourier, and Proudhon.

Drieu La Rochelle joined Jacques Doriot's fascist Parti Populaire Français (PPF) in 1936, and became the editor of its review, L'Emancipation Nationale, until his break with the party beginning in 1939. In 1937, with Avec Doriot, he argued for a specifically French fascism. He continued writing his most famous novel, Gilles, during this time.

He supported collaborationism and the Nazis' occupation of northern France. During the occupation of Paris, Drieu succeeded Jean Paulhan (whom he saved twice from the hands of the Gestapo) as director of the Nouvelle Revue Française and thus became a leading figure of French cultural collaboration with the Nazi occupiers, who he hoped would become the leader of a "Fascist International". His friendship with the German ambassador in Paris, Otto Abetz, pre-dated the war. He was a member of the committee of the Groupe Collaboration. Beginning in 1943, however, he became disillusioned by the New Order, and turned to the study of Eastern spirituality.

In a final, provocative act, he again embraced Jacques Doriot's PPF, simultaneously declaring in his secret diary his admiration for Stalinism. Upon the liberation of Paris in 1944, Drieu had to go into hiding. Despite the protection of his friend André Malraux, and after a failed first attempt in July 1944, Drieu committed suicide.

Works
The following list is not exhaustive.
 * Interrogation (1917), poems
 * Etat civil (1921)
 * "Mesure de la France" (1922), essay
 * L'homme couvert de femmes (1925), novel
 * "Le Jeune Européen" (1927), essay
 * "Genève ou Moscou" (1928), essay
 * Hotel Acropolis (Une femme à sa fenêtre) (1929), novel
 * "L'Europe contre les patries" (1931), essay
 * Will O' the Wisp (Le Feu Follet) (1931). This short novel narrates the last days of a former heroin user who commits suicide. It was inspired by the death of Drieu's friend, the surrealist poet Jacques Rigaut. Louis Malle adapted it for the screen in 1963 as The Fire Within. Joachim Trier adapted it as Oslo, August 31st in 2011. Translated into English and published in 2021 as Ghost Light by Rogue Scholar Press.
 * Drôle de voyage (1933), novel
 * The Comedy of Charleroi (La comédie de Charleroi) (1934), is a collection of short stories in which Drieu attempts to deal with his war trauma.
 * Socialisme Fasciste (1934), essay
 * Beloukia (1936), novel
 * Rêveuse bourgeoisie (1937). In this novel, Drieu tells the story of his parents' failed marriage.
 * "Avec Doriot" (1937), political pamphlet
 * Gilles (1939) is Drieu's major work. It is simultaneously an autobiographical novel and a bitter indictment of inter-war France.
 * "Ne plus attendre" (1941), essay
 * "Notes pour comprendre le siècle" (1941), essay
 * "Chronique politique" (1943), essay
 * The Man on Horseback (L'homme à cheval) (1943), novel
 * Les chiens de paille (1944), novel
 * "Le Français d'Europe" (1944), essay
 * Histoires déplaisantes (1963, posthumous), short stories
 * Mémoires de Dirk Raspe (1966, posthumous), novel
 * Journal d'un homme trompé (1978, posthumous), short stories
 * Journal de guerre (1992, posthumous), war diary

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Mountain Time Zone

The Mountain Time Zone of North America keeps time by subtracting seven hours from Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) when standard time (UTC−07:00) is in effect, and by subtracting six hours during daylight saving time (UTC−06:00). The clock time in this zone is based on the mean solar time at the 105th meridian west of the Greenwich Observatory. In the United States, the exact specification for the location of time zones and the dividing lines between zones is set forth in the Code of Federal Regulations at 49 CFR 71.

In the United States and Canada, this time zone is generically called Mountain Time (MT). Specifically, it is Mountain Standard Time (MST) when observing standard time, and Mountain Daylight Time (MDT) when observing daylight saving time. The term refers to the Rocky Mountains, which range from British Columbia to New Mexico. In Mexico, this time zone is known as the tiempo de la montaña or zona Pacífico ("Pacific Zone"). In the United States and Canada, the Mountain Time Zone is to the east of the Pacific Time Zone and to the west of the Central Time Zone.

In some areas, starting in 2007, the local time changes from MST to MDT at 2am MST to 3am MDT on the second Sunday in March and returns at 2am MDT to 1am MST on the first Sunday in November.

Sonora in Mexico and most of Arizona in the United States do not observe daylight saving time (DST), and during the spring, summer, and autumn months they are on the same time as Pacific Daylight Time. The Navajo Nation, most of which lies within Arizona but extends into Utah and New Mexico (which do observe DST), does observe DST, although the Hopi Reservation, as well as some Arizona state offices lying within the Navajo Nation, do not.

The largest city in the Mountain Time Zone is Phoenix, Arizona; the Phoenix metropolitan area is the largest metropolitan area in the zone.

Canada
One province and two territories are fully contained in the Mountain Time Zone:
 * Alberta
 * Northwest Territories
 * Yukon (no DST)

On September 24, 2020, Yukon switched to the Mountain Standard Time year-round. Therefore, clocks in Yukon and Alberta are the same in the winter, and Alberta is one hour ahead in summer. Previously, the territory had used the Pacific Time Zone with daylight saving time: UTC−8 in winter and UTC−7 in summer.

One province and one territory are split between the Mountain Time Zone and the Pacific Time Zone:
 * British Columbia – northeastern and southeastern regions
 * Northwest Territories – Tungsten

One territory and one province are split between the Mountain Time Zone and the Central Time Zone:
 * Nunavut: Kitikmeot Region
 * Saskatchewan: Lloydminster and vicinity

Mexico
As of October 30, 2022, Mexico abandoned daylight savings time, with certain exceptions. The following states have the same time as Mountain Time Zone:

 * Baja California Sur
 * Nayarit: except for the Bahía de Banderas municipality, which uses the Central Time Zone.
 * Sonora
 * Sinaloa
 * Chihuahua: Observes Daylight Savings Time, only in northwestern border municipalities (Janos, Ascensión, Juárez, Guadalupe, and Práxedis Gilberto Guerrero)
 * Revillagigedo Islands (Colima): three of the four islands have the same time as Mountain Time Zone: Socorro Island, San Benedicto Island and Roca Partida.

United States
Six states are fully contained in the Mountain Time Zone: Three states are split between the Mountain Time Zone and the Pacific Time Zone. The following locations observe Mountain Time: Five states are split between the Mountain Time Zone and the Central Time Zone. The following locations observe Mountain Time:
 * Colorado
 * Montana
 * New Mexico
 * Utah
 * Wyoming
 * Arizona (does not use daylight saving time except for Navajo Nation)
 * Idaho: Southern Idaho
 * Oregon: the majority of Malheur County
 * Nevada: West Wendover
 * Kansas: Sherman, Wallace, Greeley and Hamilton Counties
 * Nebraska: western one third
 * North Dakota: the southwest corner counties (Adams, Billings, Bowman, Golden Valley, Grant, Hettinger, Slope, Stark) observe MST. The counties of McKenzie, Dunn, and Sioux are split.
 * South Dakota: western half
 * Texas: El Paso, Hudspeth, and northwestern Culberson Counties

Major metropolitan areas
Alphabetical list of major cities located within the Mountain Time Zone. Cities in bold do not observe daylight saving time:

 * Albuquerque, New Mexico
 * Billings, Montana
 * Boise, Idaho
 * Boulder, Colorado
 * Calgary, Alberta
 * Cheyenne, Wyoming
 * Ciudad Juárez, Chihuahua
 * Ciudad Obregón, Sonora
 * Colorado Springs, Colorado
 * Culiacán, Sinaloa
 * Metropolitan Denver
 * Arvada, Colorado
 * Aurora, Colorado
 * Centennial, Colorado
 * Denver, Colorado
 * Lakewood, Colorado
 * Westminster, Colorado
 * Edmonton, Alberta
 * El Paso, Texas
 * Flagstaff, Arizona
 * Fort Collins, Colorado
 * Greeley, Colorado
 * Hermosillo, Sonora
 * La Paz, Baja California Sur
 * Lake Havasu City, Arizona
 * Lethbridge, Alberta
 * Los Mochis, Sinaloa
 * Mazatlán, Sinaloa
 * Missoula, Montana
 * Nogales, Sonora
 * Metropolitan Phoenix
 * Chandler, Arizona
 * Gilbert, Arizona
 * Glendale, Arizona
 * Mesa, Arizona
 * Peoria, Arizona
 * Phoenix, Arizona
 * Surprise, Arizona
 * Tempe, Arizona
 * Provo, Utah
 * Pueblo, Colorado
 * Rapid City, South Dakota
 * Red Deer, Alberta
 * Salt Lake City, Utah
 * San Luis Río Colorado, Sonora
 * Tepic, Nayarit
 * Tucson, Arizona
 * West Jordan, Utah
 * West Valley City, Utah
 * Yuma, Arizona

title: Mountain Time Zone