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Wiktionary:Information desk/2019/August

advocacy
Two issues with the pronunciation of “advocacy”, which is currently given as – I checked several online dictionaries that came to mind: Oxford Learner’s, Collins, Cambridge, Merriam-Webster, and the OED (requires login). 1. In all of these dictionary pages, no secondary stress is given. My opinion (I am a foreign speaker, but I think the respective sound samples support this) is that if anywhere at all, a secondary stress should be on the last syllable. 2. There is no unanimity about the symbol to use for the initial sound in British English, sometimes æ occurs and sometimes a. Perhaps both should be given.

I think a correction would be appropriate at least for issue 1., but as a newcomer to Wiktionary editing and a layperson I thought I should ask first. What do others think? SeL (talk) 00:06, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Agreed as far as the secondary stress goes. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 04:56, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There shouldn't be a secondary stress on a schwa . As for and, they're just symbols for the same sound.  is probably more common on Wiktionary. — Eru·tuon 07:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The last syllable doesn't have a schwa... Andrew Sheedy (talk) 03:32, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the schwa that has secondary stress in is in the second-to-last syllable. In case it wasn't clear, I was agreeing with you. — Eru·tuon 03:39, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. For some reason I didn't notice that the current pronunciation has a secondary stress. I thought SeL was proposing adding it where there was none. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 03:59, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Would you be against removing the secondary stress then? The other responses seem to support that change. SeL (talk) 11:40, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I would support the following pronunciation: Andrew Sheedy (talk) 17:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 * My advocacy would be for indicating primary stress only. When spoken in context (“she was recognized for her advocacy of diversity”) the secondary stress, if any, is not noticeable. --Lambiam 19:52, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I did consider advocating for this entry to indicate a secondary stress on the last syllable – that would conform to what I hear when I come across the word from native speakers, and when I listen to all the sound samples on the dictionary pages I linked to. (For the record, I would give myself the de-N|en-GB-4 tags if I were to create my user page). For now I am going to remove the secondary stress from the penultimate syllable. I will continue watching this discussion. SeL (talk) 13:48, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Suffixes
I was amazed and grateful to discover how much Wiktionary had done with regard to suffixes, particularly the lengthy list of suffixes and the number of words to which they have been applied. But I did note what I assume is an error in the list. There are only 46 mentions of "-OLOGIST" compared to 464 mentions of "-OLOGY". Either this is a simple typo or there are only 10% as many people studying the "ologist" subjects as there are "ology" subjects to be studied. That would be a tragedy, indeed!

Scott MacStravic (SCotch35@gmail.com)
 * The -ologist words may well exist, but they haven't been added to the category yet. Wiktionary is always a work in progress. —Rua (mew) 19:24, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
 * It is also how they have been analyzed. For example, =, so it is in the English words suffixed with -ist category, while , which in my opinion is (equivalent to) , has somehow been placed in the category of English words suffixed with -ology. I believe this is wrong. See also User talk:Scientific29.  --Lambiam 20:09, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Tamil
I am new to Wiktionary, so I don't know where to post but I'm wondering about the use of colloquial Tamil on Wiktionary. Just as Egyptian Arabic and other colloquial Arabic dialects used frequently in speech but not in writing (while both Modern Standard Arabic and written Tamil are used in writing but not speech) have entries, would it be possible that I, a native Tamil speaker, could add in colloquial Tamil entries? This may be as simple as including the IPA under the written Tamil entry as a separate dialect similar to how both Received Pronunciation and American English pronunciations are given for English entries or I could also create separate entries and link the written and spoken Tamil forms in the same way that Persian, Dari, and Tajik entries are on Wiktionary. (For examples of the differences between the two registers, even the numerals 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 are pronounced quite differently in the two: oṉṟu vs. oṇṇu, iraṇṭu vs reṇṭu, mūṉṟu vs mūṇu, nāṉku vs nālu, and aintu vs añcu.) Also, I've noticed a couple inaccuracies with IPA pronunciations on Tamil entries stemming from what I assume is an inaccuracy in the code for the Template:ta-IPA. Is there a way for me to edit this template? (By inaccuracies, I mean mostly the use of [dʑ] where [s] should be and [ss] where [tʃː] should be. Other than this, I haven't noticed anything.)

 * hi User:Wokj, thank you for your offer to help. i'll leave the specifics of the first questions to someone else more knowledgeable about Tamil, but you're certainly welcome to contribute and list alternative pronunciations to any word as long as they've been used by real people. as for making new pages for terms, the rule of thumb here is that they're OK as long as you can find three attestations in durable media (like books, TV shows, or movies) that use the term. overall i'd suggest being bold and adding things if you're sure they're correct, especially with smaller languages like Tamil.
 * the underlying code for T:ta-IPA is here: Module:ta-IPA and i think anyone can edit it. it's written in Lua, you can try to add your own rules to that if you're familiar with programming or if not you can make a request here or in the grease pit with what needs to be changed and someone else can take a shot.
 * please let us know if you need any help, and good luck. --Habst (talk) 03:37, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Wouldn’t be a better pronunciation qualifier than ? After all, when a word is pronounced, it is being spoken, also in a formal register.  --Lambiam 07:00, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

I need a word as apparently "knight errant" isn't what I'm looking for.
I'm working on some fiction and it has a character who is a military and political leader—part of a junta (if one will at least). He's not a knight errant as he hasn't left the scene, nor is he a rogue—at least not yet—he might never become one—but he's in that direction. He doesn't go by the spirit of many of the rules, has blatantly broken a few, even had people sent by the higher-ups to control him killed, and at times seems to be thumbing his nose at a few conventions: maybe as a test, maybe because he enjoys it, and/or maybe he's a jerk. He gets away with it because he has allies—kinda like Caesar had with Cleopatra, and has contributed much to the cause.

What word or words would you use to describe him?

Thank you. 147.194.220.170 22:07, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

 * ? --Lambiam 07:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I like I like. :D Giving me ideas (Thesaurus:maverick)—though I think you got the best word. Again, thanks. :) 147.194.220.170 11:14, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Derived Characters section in CJK Characters
Hi.

First, I was wondering whether the general policy for the Derived Characters section for CJK characters is that the characters be related etymologically or (for lack of a better word) morphologically. For instance, I was considering adding 昔 as a derived character of 龷. I would feel comfortable doing this if 'morphologically related' is the standard, but not if knowledge of etymology is required.

Second, I was wondering if there is a particular standard order the characters in this section should be in or if none exists.

I could not find any general policy regarding this section after a cursory search, but if one exists, please point me to it.

Bhbuehler (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

 * What makes you think 昔 is derived from 龷? Nothing at 字源 suggests such a thing. ---> Tooironic (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I am in the process of learning the characters, so, like I mentioned, I am not certain this is the case. However, the translingual portion of 昔 gives the composition as ⿱龷日. Of course, that page could be wrong as well or the policy for 'composition' could be different than that for 'Derived Characters'. Going by shape, it looks as if they are related, but I am aware of instances where shape is misleading (see Appendix:Easily_confused_Chinese_characters) which is why I asked the more general question about the policy on the 'Derived Characters' section. Bhbuehler (talk) 14:18, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Of course, maybe since I am still learning, I shouldn't be editing anything, but I thought I might have something to add if the standard was based on shape and not etymology. Bhbuehler (talk) 14:28, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Is it correct to label 龷 (and 龶, 龸 and such) a Han character ? The Chinese Wiktionary also calls it that, but I find it a bit strange. --Lambiam 11:04, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

romanized korean to chinese
today i learned a term that is used in taekwondo and would like to know its literal meaning. i assume it is Korean and because this language is written in syllables i have no way of determining the literal meaning of words, unlike Chinese. i was hoping a (hopefully Romanized since i don't read Hangul) Korean-Chinese dictionary might help but so far i have been unable to track one down. can someone please help?

 * What's the word? Wyang (talk) 00:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The word is that the OP is not monitoring this page.  --Lambiam 19:54, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

how do you upload an entire thesaurus?
Dear Wiktionary Friends, Colleagues and I have created an original Sioux Language Thesaurus focused on culture. Is there a way to upload this document to share with the world? Best, Partakeofthesound

 * You mean upload to Wiktionary? Do the entries of your thesaurus conform to the layout and inclusion criteria of Wiktionary? If not, it could be added as an appendix. --Lambiam 13:31, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Wow, sounds amazing, but we would need to look at it first. Are you able to share the file with us instead of uploading, and maybe take some comments? Equinox ◑ 10:02, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

on the skew
does on the skew represent a productive pattern? --Backinstadiums (talk) 14:50, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not see a pattern. That makes it a tough call to determine whether it is productive. --Lambiam 19:50, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * then it deserves an entry of its own, doesn't it? --Backinstadiums (talk) 22:41, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I guess so. I am not familiar with this idiom, but I see it used here in opposition to “on the square”, which according to Merriam–Webster can mean “at right angles” – a sense we do not currently have. So then the prepositional phrase “on the skew” would mean at other than right angles, i.e. “at a slant“, ”aslant”, “skewed”. See also, with a related meaning but applied in a different context. --Lambiam 08:56, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I don't know how far these things are related, but there are a few phrases like on the turn, on the boil, on the run, on the lam that seem to be similar structures. (The isn't really identifying a specific entity: we couldn't say "the water is on the boil? oh, which boil?") Equinox ◑ 10:04, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Another: on the piss, getting drunk :) Equinox ◑ 10:05, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

on the sly even though there's no noun sly even in Middle English --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:12, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Collins also has “on the slant” as a variant of “on a slant”. This is not a productive construction, but it is reminiscent of proclitic (Etymology 2, sense 1). In same cases “on the” can even be replaced by “a-”:, , . More a- – on the pairs, although in some cases their relationship is not clear:  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – ;  – .  --Lambiam 16:52, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Harassment
Hi, could you do block this vandal User:Yogaaldo tanks à lot --Lomita (talk) 06:38, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

my human
In this TED talk Hannah Gadsby asks (at 9:14), “What was the purpose of my human?”, a question she repeats several time through the talk. How should one interpret the phrase “my human”? It sounds like a question by someone from a civilization of aliens that keep humans as pets. I also have trouble interpreting the book title, which may have a related explanation. --Lambiam 13:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Perhaps "my human" is the one that I (the mind/brain) happen to be located inside, and have to learn to operate. She seems to be speaking from a perspective of being autistic. Equinox ◑ 14:04, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

Old Portuguese
Hi! So, WT:AROA-OPT isn't specific about it, so I would like to get your opinion on if Crónica troiana (Wikipedia article in Galician) can be considered Old Portuguese. It's from 1370, which is already quite late, but not that much later than A sa vida seja muita (1350s) which is considered to make the cut (see usso, I reworked extensively the article, but that quotation was already there). The Wikipedia article above describes it as Galician-Portuguese, yet this edition from 1900 describes it as Galician (or possibly the Galician variant of Old Portuguese, page XV) and so seem to do other sources, while the manuscript's spine (see source) has the words Trojan Chronicle in Portuguese. The word in question I was hunting is husso (alternative writing of the usso, above). So, to which language do you think should these quotes be added? - Sarilho1 (talk) 15:02, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not know enough about the topic to be really helpful. Several articles state that Old Portuguese developed into two divergent variants starting in 1128, but also that the first period of “Old Portuguese” was from the 12th to the 14th century, slowly becoming two increasingly distinct languages. Unfortunately, I see very little that tells us anything specific about distinctive features that can be used to classify the variants, but someone must have made a study of that. There is something in the Galician Wikipedia about confusion between voiceless and voiced sibilants, and changes in morphology ( versus ). If testing the Crónica for such features firmly positions it as written in one of these two variants, I’d be inclined to classify it accordingly. If the test is clearly inconclusive, it is obviously Old Portuguese. If the test is “semi-conclusive” (not an unlikely possibility), this will only reflect the arbitrariness of the segmentation of evolving languages into periods. --Lambiam 20:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I see that the Wikipedia article states, ‘The end of "Old Portuguese" was marked by the publication of the Cancioneiro Geral by, in 1516.’ It does not explain this statement any further, which suggests a segmentation with a period boundary of 1516. That seems rather late, though.  --Lambiam 21:10, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Luksemburg Polish declension
I believe, on the page Luksemburg the genitive should be Luksemburga instead of Luksemburgu. Sources: Luksemburg (pl.wiktionary) and Luksemburg (pl.wikipedia). I have no idea how to change the declension pattern on the wiktionary page, so I just post this here. Cheers --2A01:C23:7C26:7100:59BE:6A1D:A54C:FB82 15:58, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
 * ✅. --Lambiam 12:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

visuality
I have been trying to, either edit or propose new usage, for the term visuality I must be making an error because when I enter comments in the edit form it does not appear as an edit. Here is the very brief meaning I am attempting to bring to this word: Visuality as a noun utilized to convey historical memory by museum artifacts or film. Visuality describes the optical encounter one has when viewing artifacts in a museum or the conveyance of historicity via a film. The optical encounter I describe is specific to historical memory convened in academia. }

 * We don't include newly invented meanings, only existing ones from the real world. If your meaning ever becomes popular and widely used then we might add it in a few years. Good luck. Equinox ◑ 12:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 * I just discovered an edit from a month ago that somehow slipped through our checks: you wiped out the translation section in an entry so you could give yourself credit for creating the entry and explain your inspiration for creating it- all in the third person in order to make the blatant self-promotion less obvious. Of course, your version had been removed 5 years ago and replaced with a real definition based on how the term is actually used- and had been used for decades before you decided to "create" it. If you try anything like that again, you will be blocked. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:54, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 * Editors can include new words, or new senses of existing words, provided that they satisfy our criteria for inclusion. Roughly speaking, that means that there need to have been at least three independent uses of the word – or of the already existing word in the new sense – in permanently recorded media, spanning at least a year. If the word or sense does not meet this criterion, it will be removed. Removing valid content without community consensus is not acceptable. --Lambiam 15:44, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * The original form of the entry I'm talking about, artifactuality consisted of a definition that he made up, with a long and self-promoting usage note:
 * Term ascribing the museal characteristics of an object.

 * Usage notes

 * How does an object become part of a museum collection? The term will help to determine when and how an object is thematic to the museum narrative and desirable for a particular collection in the museum. This property may aid the acquisition process. Thus items related to and incorporating Holocaust related resumes will be found appropriate for a Holocaust museum or exhibition and will project authenticity.The term is being utilized by Dr. Gabriel Mayer in researching artifacts exhibited in Holocaust museums, helping to define deliberations and considerations for determining authenticity and appropriateness of curated items.

 * The edit I reverted, which replaced the Translations section:
 * Dr. Gabriel Mayer originally posted the term artifactuality. The need for such a term arose during academic research centered on artifacts in Holocaust museums. This was attributed to the unique properties of authentic artifacts to augment historical memory. Thus, by utilization of artifactuality, we connote the historical memory attributable to a specific artifact.
 * Any guess who User:Gabe010 is? Look at his user page if you have any doubt. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:16, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, but I think Lambiam's message was directed at the OP, not at you. Canonicalization (talk) 16:18, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Indeed. I assume Chuck does not need to be told that removing valid content without community consensus (in this case the translations section of the entry ) is not acceptable. I tried to complement Chuck’s message by presenting an outline of what is acceptable; since it was meant as kind of an addition to his message rather than a direct response to the original posting, I indented it. --Lambiam 21:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

 * TBH I would like to indef-block this user because they have been "incubating" like a disgusting larva in a warm nest for years upon years, and never made any legit edit. It's just self-promotion. Equinox ◑ 02:25, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Let us give them a polite, non-hostile, but very clear warning on their talk page (which has not been done yet) and block them on any further infraction. BTW, larvae can be yummy. --Lambiam 14:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

Flagging errors in Greek
There seem to be a few spurious forms in the conjugation tables in the entry for the Greek. And some missing forms could be added.
 * 1) πρόηξα (aorist) and *πρόηχα (perfect) do not have recessive accents. They should be προῆξα (alt. 2nd aor. form – προήγαγον) and προῆχα (alt. form. προαγήοχα) respectively.
 * 2) The perfect could include the MP form προῆγμαι.
 * 3) Also, the imperfect προῆγον (act) / προηγόμην (MP) should also be added to the tables.
 * 4) There's also a rare form of the aorist MP προηγαγόμην.
 * 5) And the passive voice has the future προαχθήσομαι and the aorist προήχθην.

 * Pinging Aearthrise, Furius. --Lambiam 10:00, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I think I've fixed all but (4)? But templates are not my forte... Furius (talk) 10:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Searching By Pronunciation
I am trying to find words that contain particular vowels or sound environments and I was wondering if there was a way to search for "all entries with pronunciations containing the vowel /ɔ/" or, as a more advanced search, "words containing /æ/ followed by /f, s, θ, ʃ/". It would be helpful for future work to learn how to search pronunciations.

 * I don't think the search supports anything like that at present. Another part of the problem is that we don't have a pronunciation for every word, since many of them just haven't been added yet; and you'd probably need to be able to limit your search to a single language (i.e. this sound in English only, not Arabic or whatever). Equinox ◑ 23:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * On my own computer, I can search instances of from the dump. For instance, on the command line   gathers English words whose transcription contains  followed by  and prints the template source code (results). The various programs and scripts that this involves probably can't easily be integrated with the Wiktionary search engine, but maybe I could figure out how to create a little website that allows these searches on Toolforge if there is enough interest. — Eru·tuon 03:32, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

 * This would be a neat hack but it's another thing that we probably can't do "properly" until we can move from pure markup to a more semantic representation. (I do like the plain markup though...) I have written various code that checks whether an entry contains the string "==English==", and I'm sure lots of other people's code relies on "" and so on... messy but adequate for now. Equinox ◑ 16:47, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

"Feedback" versus publishing changes to content
With reference to:

Editing Wiktionary:Feedback (comment) - Wiktionary [Your text editor has neglected to carry over the instruction to put a carriage return/line feed here!] https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Wiktionary:Feedback&action=edit&section=new&preload=Wiktionary:Feedback%2Fpreload&editintro=Wiktionary:Feedback%2Fintro&preloadtitle=Word%20of%20the%20day%3A%20%5B%5BFaustian%20bargain%5D%5D

With reference to the "Leave feedback" option which is positioned at the foot of the "Word of the day" feature of the Main Page of the English-language Wiktionary; unfortunately, the "Editing Wiktionary:Feedback (comment)" page did not offer a feedback mechanism. The only visible tool appeared to offer a means to edit the content of the "Word of the day" feature, not pass feedback to some review process.

¿¿ "-- Please type your feedback in this box directly below this comment, clicking the "Publish changes" button below when you're done. Thanks! --" ??

"Feedback" and publishing changes to content are not the same thing.

¡¡ "...gratuitously removing content are considered vandalism, and editors who engage in such behavior may be blocked without a warning." !!

However, with reference to the "Word of the day for August 28", "Faustian bargain"; this "Word of the day" feature is supplied with an audio player module which might have been intended to provide an example of the phrase as it might sound when spoken. Unfortunately, the software which the Wiktionary uses to automate the production of audio versions of samples of text appears to have evaded any effort to review its work before publication. The audio version of the phrase "Faustian bargain" aborted playback immediately the first phoneme of the second word of the phrase was sounded.

Thus, if the intention was to provide the spoken form of the phrase "Faustian bargain", the attempt failed because the first syllable of the second word was curtailed before it could either complete or move on to the second syllable.

If, however, the intention was to provide the spoken form of the single word "Faustian", the attempt failed because the cut off point occurred after the second word had started.

Why does the French -ll- not sound like /l/?
Question in subject title... "reveille", "ville", "travailler". I imagine French underwent a lot of mediaeval changes, like the awful spelling of English. But why does -ll- sound like /j/ and not /l/? Equinox ◑ 10:20, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * There needs to be an -i- before the -ll-: /maj/ but  /mal/. (And, as always, strange exceptions like  /fij/ but  /vil/.) We find /j/ also in words ending on -il with a single l:,  /œj/,  /ʁaj/,  /sɔlɛj/ (but  /pwal/). This is unlike Castilian, in which -ll- (only with a double l) more predictably corresponds to /ʎ/. It seems plausible to me that a phoneme /l/ was lost from an earlier pronunciation /lj/, and then the question is more one of orthography: why is it written with an i before the l, maille, and not after it, malie? (Compare  and .)  --Lambiam 13:45, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

 * "+1" (in social media parlance) for pointing out that all my examples were ill (hip-hop slang -- oh wait). Yeah certainly this doesn't happen with words like belle. Equinox ◑ 13:57, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

right side up
In a sentence such as It has to be stored right side up, how should a user find the meaning of a phrase such as right side up? Is it synonymous with with the right side up? --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:40, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
 * No it is not. I suggest adding "right side up" in a section called "related terms".--So9q (talk) 16:11, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

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 * Why would you want to mess with a bot that hasn't made an edit in 6 years, and that was run by someone who isn't very active around here any more? Why would we want someone doing that who's made exactly one dictionary edit and apparently has no clue about this bot, our bot policies, or our policies in general?
 * To be blunt, if the abuse filter hadn't stopped you, I would have reverted these changes on the spot. There's a reason that filter exists, and you have yet to give us any reason why we should help you get around it. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:18, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

New editors’ contribs not working anymore
Am I the only one who can't use New editors’ contribs anymore? Regardless what I type in there, I get no results. It worked fine the other day.--Robbie SWE (talk) 08:33, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I did not know such an option existed. Is it documented? Anyway, this seems more an issue for the grease pit. --Lambiam 23:39, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
 * It's one of those "special pages", so not sure if it's documented. I'll move this discussion to the Grease Pit. --Robbie SWE (talk) 09:16, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
 * See meta:Tech/News/2019/34. It was disabled "because of performance reasons". The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 01:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, heard about that late last night. It's really perplexing that such a drastic change was made without informing or consulting the users who actually depend on that tool to patrol new editors' contributions. Relying solely on RC just doesn't cut it for me I'm afraid, but I guess I'll have to adapt. --Robbie SWE (talk) 17:20, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Have you tried enabling the "Newcomers" and "Learners" filters in Special:RecentChanges? They seem the closest thing to the filter used by the "newbie contributions" feature. — Eru·tuon 17:28, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * , that's the thing — how exactly do I do that? I've typed "newcomers" and "learners" in the "Tag filter" box and I get zilch. --Robbie SWE (talk) 17:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Ahh, it sounds like you have the non-JavaScript version. If you uncheck "Use non-JavaScript interface" in the "Recent changes" tab of Special:Preferences, Special:RecentChanges will have an "Active filters" box and below it an input box where you can type in and select "Newcomers" and "Learners" filters. — Eru·tuon 19:11, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Another workaround is to go through the user creation logs and look for "contribs" bluelinks. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:30, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Erutuon! You were right, I had "Use non-JavaScript interface" checked. It works now! I had to rely on Chuck Entz's workaround yesterday, but I sure miss the old "New editors’ contribs" function. Oh well, times they are a-changin'. --Robbie SWE (talk) 08:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

new reference templates
Hello, I was hoping someone could explain to me how new reference templates are added? I have two main points that I would like to understand... 1. what the actual code does (and whether it is written in lua, javascript etc...) and 2. what the process is (if any) of getting the new reference material approved. I am hoping to add a reference template from U-Chicago's Digital Dictionaries of South Asia. Thank you! Hk5183 (talk) 20:55, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

 * You will find the reference templates in Category:Reference templates or one of its many subcategories. It is a mixed bunch. If the url to be linked to can be formed in a straightforward way by substituting the entry (usually the page name) in a string with perhaps the help of a few magic words and parser functions (if enabled here), a simple template will do. For an example, see R:Platts. A generic template that can be specialized for this approach is R:Reference-meta. Other templates invoke a module, written in Lua. For example, template R:Bailly invokes Module:R:Bailly. If you create a new template or module, please also supply the documentation. --Lambiam 23:24, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! your help is appreciated!Hk5183 (talk) 20:33, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Unable to see quotations
On all pages I don't see the quotes that are included on the page even though I see them in the source code. I am assuming there is some preference or something that I changed to make this the case but cannot seem to find it. If some one could point me in the direction of the option that allows to see quotes on pages again that would be greatly appreciated. The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 01:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * You should be able to see this on the left-hand "tools" menu. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I see the tools menu but am confused what I am supposed to see in it and how it relates to my problem. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 16:47, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Sorry if I was obscure: there should be an option to "Show quotations" (also "Show declensions", etc.) and it's under "Visibility" which should be immediately below "Tools". —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I have found it, thank you very much! —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 17:32, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * On the pages with the invisible quotations, do you see a Visibility menu in the sidebar with "Show quotations" in it? — Eru·tuon 16:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Church Slavonic
What is the language code for "Church Slavonic"? A new user is using "cu", which is the code for "Old Church Slavonic" - is that acceptable? SemperBlotto (talk) 09:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I believe the discussion about this is being held at Beer parlour/2019/September — Mnemosientje (t · c) 14:48, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Fixing German words
Hello!

I am currently using the wiktionary to extract German words and group them by declension. In the process of doing so, I noticed that a few "declension groupings" do not start with the same letter.

I am fixing the obviously wrong cases, but as I do not speak German, feel free to review/edit/rollback my contributions as you wish. :)

I already did that with Dutch words and it went fine, but I apologize if some of them might be wrong. That said, the list is not big.

Thanks! Jojva (talk) 13:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

 * They all seem fine to me. Keep up the good work. --Lambiam 21:49, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary etymology telegram bot
For users of Telegram, there is now @WikimologyBot (https://t.me/WikimologyBot). Send it a word in any language and get contents of the etymology field for that word from the English version of Wiktionary.
 * Nice, but it should not strip tables like in the etymology section of . Also, while it does separate language sections and gives all languages there are entries in on a page, it does not does not distinguish etymology sections. Perhaps it should fetch the meanings too if it already accesses the pages anyway. Fay Freak (talk) 14:37, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reference format (affero)
I recently edited affero to provide more complete information (author, title, JSTOR number) to a reference. I used cite-journal, but I see that the rendered text is in a very different formatting, even apart from the missing information, than what was there before (it used to lead with the year, for example), I'm not certain I did it correctly.

I'm only an occasional editor here, much more active on English Wikipedia. Can someone check me on it? TJRC (talk) 00:27, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * This looks fine to me: there's a preference here to start usage examples with dates (e.g. Orwellian) The way that you've inserted it without tags and a final tag is not how I would have done it but that's not necessarily a problem. I think a better citation would be to include some dialogue that uses the word, cite it, and then use the tags I mentioned, again Orwellian has examples of what I mean. Either way, this is a great addition on a very obscure language. Thanks. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:40, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

 * The quotation templates, meant for examples of actual use, start with the date. The citation templates  , meant for references, start with the author. As this is a reference (with a mention, not a use), it is fine as is.  --Lambiam 12:37, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Orthographic differences between Canadian and European French?
I know that they’re very similar but I am wondering if there are (or were) at least a few exceptions. — (((Romanophile))) ♞ (contributions) 00:29, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

 * The Wikipedia article  states that the spelling differences are “sporadic” – unlike the grammatical differences, which are numerous. Two examples are given. (1) The  recommends the spelling  for what is in France . (2) In France the adjective  is invariable, but has regular feminine and plural forms in Quebec French according to official recommendations. (Our entry lists these forms without reservations. The French Wiktionary mentions both options without tying this to a regiolect.)  --Lambiam 18:53, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

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Aurally misinterpreting "ends meet" as "end's meat"
(I didn't know where else to put this, so forgive me if it is misplaced.)

Would something like that be an eggcorn?

What I mean is: if someone interprets "make ends meet" (when hearing it, and not having read it) as "make end's meat" (get one's food at the end of the day), would that be an eggcorn?

The interpretation is understandable, and isn't illogical. Consider:

"Jim struggled through those years to make ends meet".

That could be easily (mis)construed as:

"Jim struggled through those years to make *end's meat" (in other words, Jim struggled through those years to simply put food on the table). Tharthan (talk) 13:25, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Some cases found in print:, , . --Lambiam 16:22, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Yes, why wouldn't it? Equinox ◑ 21:06, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I thought that it was, but sometimes I second guess myself there. Now that I rethought the question, it does seem to be a bit odd that I doubted myself in this particular case. Anyway, Lambiam has just found three citations, so perhaps it might be worth creating an entry for it. We have entries for other eggcorns. Tharthan (talk) 21:51, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

How to link from WP …
directly to the 2nd English 'Noun' definition for 'establishment' — i.e., "The ruling class or authority group in a society …" as an in-line wikilink or as a box indicating Wiktionary has that definition? Thx, Humanengr (talk) 17:13, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

 * If you create an anchor at that sense by adding en, you can use  over at WP.  --Lambiam 16:32, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

editing??
khmer and other languages. can u tell me where to have a entry sheet or something for foreign entries? Thnx Docsquareboston (talk) 12:15, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 * When editing a page, there should be a palette immediately below the Publish changes — Show preview — Show changes buttons that has a dropdown menu for selecting and switching the palette, starting with “Latin/Roman”. You’ll find “Khmer” somewhere halfway down the list – apart from the first few items, the list is alphabetic by the name of the script. Obviously, we do not offer support for all scripts, but it is possible to extend the list if there is enough demand.  --Lambiam 16:43, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

ǫgr
Hello! I made an edit to ǫgr adding the sense of a fish species. I included some alternative forms, but these are only applicable to Noun 1 and not to Noun 2. Should the headline Alternative forms still be above Etymology 1 in the hierarchy? One can then easily get the impression that the alternative forms are also applicable to Noun 2.

My second question is whether it makes sense to separate the etymologies altogether considering they ultimately come from the same root. My reasons for doing so are that they are of different gender and have separate declension patterns, and that it was done so in the source I used. Cheers, --Lundgren8 (t · c) 14:05, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

 * WT:ELE lists Alternative forms twice, both under Headings before the definitions and Headings after the definitions. The first is only applicable if the info does not depend on the meaning of the word (assuming polysemicity).  --Lambiam 17:01, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

Adjectives in Excessive Reading
After a whole year trying to contact its author, I haven't been able to access the following article about the Chinese language

Adjectives in Excessive Reading http://dx.doi.org/10.1163/2210-7363_ecll_COM_00000148

I'd appreciate it so much if somebody could spare a copy. --Backinstadiums (talk) 21:10, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

This tutorial page has errors?
I know it isn't that important in the grand scheme of things but this part of the tutorial is unintelligible in places: Help:Further_reading

I would try and fix it myself if I could actually tell what some of these sentences are trying to say ^^; Snizzbut (talk) 22:09, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

 * What is wrong with it specifically? The computer code is there on purpose. Equinox ◑ 22:35, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm confused about WT:NORM
I was looking at my edit to atom in the page history, which can be found here and noticed that my edit was tagged with WT:NORM. I read the page, but it's kind of confusing. Could I get some advice on what I did wrong? Clovermoss (talk) 20:16, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

 * It means the page has old-style formatting that needs fixing. It probably isn't the bit that you edited. It just means that page somewhere, perhaps in another place, has an issue. You can ignore it. Equinox ◑ 20:18, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Okay, thanks for letting me know. Another question: how exactly do I cite references? The definition I gave for atom is actually used, but I understand why others might be skeptical of it, so I'd like to able to prove the existence of this usage. Clovermoss (talk) 20:26, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

 * See WT:CITE. But it is quite a long page so you might be able to copy a citation from elsewhere and work out which bits to change. (Use the Preview button to check.) Equinox ◑ 20:33, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I made these edits, . Did I do everything the way I was suppossed to? I want to make sure I'm doing things right, as I'm new to Wiktionary. Clovermoss (talk) 23:13, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Looks okay but I would question the wording of the definition. It could be misread as meaning "an atom is an age group division in hockey", so that "there are five atoms in hockey" would mean there were five age divisions. Can this be used of individuals, e.g. "she's an atom in the local hockey team"? Equinox ◑ 23:17, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, actually. Your example would work perfectly in that context; another example would be "She won first place in Atom girls long jump". I'm not sure if the hockey usage is different from the general Canadian context, but this news article also talks about Atom in regards to sports: . Clovermoss (talk) 23:22, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Clarification: Atom is more the division itself, but it's based on an individual's age, there's other divisions like that such as Peewee. Clovermoss (talk) 23:26, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * This news article might also be helpful, as both Atom and Peewee are used in it. Clovermoss (talk) 23:42, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 * – I have the impression that the hockey-related sense is specific to Canada. In that case it should be labelled “en”. --Lambiam 23:22, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I added a note about the edit tag at WT:NORM because probably other editors are wondering the same thing but just haven't posted. Hopefully it's clear enough. — Eru·tuon 00:10, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Ancient Greek family tree
The family tree at Category:Ancient Greek language, has too many mistakes (Discussion). Some ancient dialects are placed and modern, and modern under ancient. I understand that it is technically difficult to correct. Perhaps it could be withdrawn? Thank you sarri.greek (talk) 02:15, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Ι thank Erutuon who took care of this problem. As always, he is most helpful. sarri.greek (talk) 12:02, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Shouldn’t Pontic Greek be shown as a descendant of Byzantine Greek? --Lambiam 13:51, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That seems right, judging from the Wikipedia article. I've moved that and Cappadocian Greek and Yevanic under Byzantine Greek using Module:family tree/data. (That means it will only affect the family tree, not or anything else on Wiktionary.) — Eru·tuon 17:23, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you Lambiam and Erutuon! It looks perfect! sarri.greek (talk) 02:23, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's good now:
 * "Cretan Ancient Greek (grc-kre)" isn't a form of "Arcadocypriot Greek (grc-arp)" but of "Doric Greek (grc-dor)" (Cypriot Greek is another form of Arcado-Cypriot Greek)
 * Category:Italiot Greek language includes Category:Calabrian Greek (and Category:Apulian Greek) - yet there's also Category:Calabrian Greek language
 * --Jumpirip (talk) 11:48, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the corrections. I've moved Cretan. Quite embarrassing to have confused Crete and Cyprus. Calabrian Greek was supposed to be demoted from a full-fledged language (Category:Calabrian Greek language) to a subvariety of Italiot Greek (Category:Calabrian Greek) in our entries; not sure where we are in that process. — Eru·tuon 23:53, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

According to the Peace Corps Malagasy Language Course, the verb Mihinana is "to eat"
Yet here on the website I find the meaning is to Embezzle? I think you may have a translation error. If I'm correct, shouldn't embezzle be "Fanodikodinam-bola" ? 77.180.57.51 14:06, 13 October 2019 (UTC)Just learning the language.
 * Thanks for pointing this out. As you can see in this Malagasy dictionary, at “English definition”, is a secondary (figurative) meaning. The primary meaning is . In one case food is consumed, in the other case money. ✅.  --Lambiam 22:33, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

What does this German(ish) mean?
Hi. I tried to post this on the Translation Requests page, but despite being an admin, I was blocked. So let's try it here. This is German, but it's either a strong dialect or some kind of joke form like "Pig Latin". What does it mean?

 * wiedie affen rumjelaffen
 * rumkugeln nur draussen
 * did he put the schminke thick?
 * hahahahahhaHAHAHAAH dit is voll und janz deutsch kensnte nur nich
 * janz dicke schminek uffjetragen wie sau

Equinox ◑ 18:57, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

 * I don’t know the source, but it feels like the lines were written by different authors. The following is the best I can make of it.
 * In line 1, “wiedie” is probably “wie die”. I can’t place “rumjel”, perhaps “rum gel” if that is a thing.
 * like apes, rum gel apes. (Or monkeys – German does not make the distinction that English does.)
 * Second line
 * rum balls only outside
 * Third line
 * did he put [on] the make-up thickly?
 * In line 4, I think “kensnte” is a typo for “kennste”, dialectal for ”kennst du”. Also “janz” may be an alternative spelling of “ganz”.
 * hahahahahhaHAHAHAAH, this is full and total; you just don’t know German. (Added interpunction is pure guess work.)
 * In the last line, “schminek” is a typo for “schminke”, and “uffjetragen” is probably a dialectal form of “aufgetragen“, the pp of.
 * totally thick make-up applied like [a] pig.
 * --Lambiam 22:02, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Or in line 1 “rumjelaffen” is in standard German “herumgelaufen”, the pp of . In that case,
 * [He/she has] run around like apes.
 * --Lambiam 22:07, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Then possibly in the next line “rumkugeln” = “herumkugeln“, that is, “to roll around”. --Lambiam 22:17, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

 * An abuse filter rejects translation requests with "insert source language" and "insert target language". Added a more helpful warning message. — Eru·tuon 22:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

In SHG:
 * wie die Affen rumgelaufen (herumgelaufen)
 * rumkugeln (herumkugeln) [or less likely: Rumkugeln] nur draußen
 * dies/dieß ist voll und ganz deutsch; kennste (kennst Du) nur nicht
 * ganz dicke Schminke aufgetragen wie Sau

-Jumpirip (talk) 13:37, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Right, that made no sense at all. I shake the hand of whoever bothered with it. Equinox ◑ 02:39, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Category:English genericized trademarks
Hey- QQ.

Looking through Category:English genericized trademarks for uni project and noticed Levi's was there.

I checked the TM registration and it's not generic (https://trademarks.ipo.gov.uk/ipo-tmcase/page/Results/4/EU000033126)

I tried to move the page to Category:English trademarks but changes were revoked.

Anyone able to fix this?

Thx. Shelly.

 * Tough one really. When is a trademark "genericized"? When we start spelling it with lower-case? What if it was already lower-cased like "iPhone"? Probably we need to talk to Mediawiki legal. Equinox ◑ 21:40, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

 * Although, Shelly, it might answer your question to say that "genericized" doesn't mean it isn't a legitimate trademark. It just means that it's entered the language as an everyday word for a type of thing (possibly not the thing made by the manufacturer who owns the trademark). Equinox ◑ 21:41, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

 * A word is genericized if it is used in generic ways. It has nothing to do with the official trademark registration. DTLHS (talk) 21:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Actually, in the UK it's not just about the word being 'generic' (as the category in question is Category:English genericized trademarks there is an actual process for a Trademark to become 'generic' this is different from a word being in common use. The page is specifically about trademarks that were genericized not words that are generic for this to happen in England there has to be an actual challenge to the existing mark which (if successful) means that the mark can no longer be used by the company. In this case this has not happened so it should be moved to Category:English trademarks

help?
i tried to create an entry in russian but the categories came out in English. Could someone tell me why?and how to fix? Wisercheez (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Resolved; see Talk:подвешивание. --Lambiam 23:22, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

I have to send a message to editors of Ancient Greek Language
Salute,

I need to contact the editors of the ancient Greek Language and tell them that I created the application under GNU GPL license (for Windows, MacOS, Linux) based on the data from Wiktionary.org

Data were used for

1. Automatically create a paradigm system 2. Creating a test system. In total, more than 333 thousand tests were created.

Take a look at:

http://diglossa.org/greek/

code: https://github.com/mbykov/biblos.js/

packages for Win, MacOS, Linux: https://github.com/mbykov/biblos.js/releases/latest

I would like to hear reviews and comments about the application from the editors of the Wictionary.org

Please help me contact the editors and forward my message to them.

Regards,

Michael Bykov

Create account
Hello! Is it possible to use my existing Wikipedia/Wikimedia account for Wiktionary? Or I need to create a new one? Thanks, Damjan.
 * Yes, it is possible. Just log in to your Wikipedia account and open Wiktionary while logged in. — surjection ⟨?⟩ 11:11, 25 October 2019 (UTC)


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image on deckle
There's a picture on deckle which the caption indicates depicts a brisket. It could use some arrows or labels or something to convey which part is the deckle.__Gamren (talk) 17:53, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

 * Webster's New World College Dictionary defines deckle as “the outermost layer of meat and fat on a roast or steak”. Collins copies that sense, labelling it as American English. A respondent on a website forum calls it “a mixture of hard fat & cartilage”, something that you want to be removed when you buy your brisket, or else you should remove it yourself prior to cooking it. An image further down shows the brisket. This suggests that there is also another, rather different sense of deckle. A web page here on an unofficial product fan site states explicitly: “Contrary to popular belief, the deckle is not the same thing as the brisket point. Rather, it’s the fat and muscle that attach the brisket flat to the rib cage.” But since we are descriptive, not prescriptive, we also record the meanings according to “popular belief”.
 * Based on the description, I suppose that the point or deckle in the picture is the end in the lower right corner. Perhaps some brisket aficionado can confirm this. It is simpler to add this to the caption than to modify the picture. --Lambiam 22:31, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Should one prefer to read and edit en.wiktionary.org over others, e.g. hu.wiktionary.org?
Hello,

I'm relatively new to editing (and perhaps even reading!) Wiktionary, and I am a bit confused by its structure. I'm mainly interested in reading, supplementing, correcting and adding to the dictionary between Hungarian and English, but I am not sure where to make those changes. Let us say as an example I want to add to the dictionary that the English word "purple" can be translated as "lila" in Hungarian. Of course this common word-pairing is certainly already part of Wiktionary, but please bear with me as this is meant only to be a simple example. Would this mean that I would have to make 4 edits to fully consistently introduce this linkage? Specifically at these pages:

 * https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/purple (having to add "= hu:lila")
 * https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lila (having to add "= en:purple")
 * https://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/purple (having to add "= hu:lila")
 * https://hu.wiktionary.org/wiki/lila (having to add "= en:purple")

en + hu wiktionaries, for both purple and lila

If this is so, this is a bit strange for me, and I wonder if this is by design or I might be missing something here. For example, could it not be much simpler and more robust if it were possible to just make a single edit along the lines of `en:purple = hu:lila` at a special page which would immediately be reflected at all those four specific pages? Is this something that is already possible, or is it only possible to make those four manual edits at this time? And if the latter is the case, is it planned to support that kind of single-point editing later? I imagine it could not only be simpler for editors, but would also create a robust and consistent, perhaps even machine-readable database of dictionaries across all languages which sounds like a big advantage for me.

Alternatively, if my assessment is correct above, is it perhaps advised for the time being to only or mainly edit en.wiktionary.org entries as those can be considered a central hub for all other languages too, and is the most likely to be containing complete, correct, and up to date information for all other languages' words as well? Otherwise the information could become fractured and people wanting to look them up always have to visit multiple xx.wiktionary.org pages for the reason they cannot be sure if one page contains the information that they are looking for or not. I already find myself doing this across en.wiktionary.org and hu.wiktionary.org and I would also prefer if I could be more efficient in my searches -- as perhaps others do too.

-- a confused (striving-to-be-)editor, Wizek (talk) 17:27, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

 * The target audience would be different for these two dictionaries. The English wiki (en.wiktionary.org) is for English-speaking readers who wish to know the definition of Hungarian words explained in English. The Hungarian wiki (hu.wiktionary.org) is for Hungarian-speaking readers who wish to look up words defined in Hungarian or translated from Hungarian to other languages. You can contribute to both. I did in the past but now I only work in this wiki. If you decide to edit here, you need to add the Hungarian translation to the English word, then create the Hungarian entry and add the definition in English, plus declension, pronunciation, etc. Only English words contain translation tables. Panda10 (talk) 18:25, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Also, there is often no one-to-one correspondence between the lexica of two languages. Sometimes can be translated by  and vice versa, but often this does not work. So for now it is better if a human eye is kept on translations, by an editor who knows both languages involved.  --Lambiam 20:10, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

 * This isn't exactly by design, but I consider it to be a great strength. The different language dictionaries are free to develop on their own terms and develop their own criteria for what to include. I am in favor of more dictionaries, not a single meta-dictionary that tries to subsume all others. DTLHS (talk) 20:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

 * The different language versions are in practice separate projects, and I wouldn't advise against editing any particular language version, if you feel it's worthwhile. Centralization is much harder than it sounds, and could probably only be done to a limited degree.__Gamren (talk) 22:19, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Looking for meaning of fonkin
I found fonkin in a published book and could not find its meaning. I tried adding it to Wiktionary with what information I could give, hoping that someone could improve on my suggested meaning I had deduced from the context.

I was dismayed to find my entry has been deleted, although I tried to use the template suggested. I don't know how I can proceed.

How can I request that someone provides a meaning for it?

Summary info: fonkin, noun, probably term of endearment, found in Elizabeth Chadwick's novel The Running Vixen published 1990 and 2009.

 * The OED has an entry, defined as "a little fool" (so basically fon + -kin). Equinox ◑ 15:19, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Anon: many thanks. I hadn't guessed!

Requests for translation of FL text of citations and usage examples
Isn't it the norm to have translations of usage examples and the text of citations? How does one request such things? I didn't find it in the list of request templates. DCDuring (talk) 21:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If the correct template is used, it automatically generates a request if there is no translation. Andrew Sheedy (talk) 23:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * These requests are found in Category:Requests for translations of  usage examples, unless the translation parameter of ux is explicitly given as “ ”, in which case the entry is put in Category:Omitted translation in the main namespace. --Lambiam 08:50, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Aghwan digraphs
Hi everyone! I want to write about Aghwan digraphs of 𐕒𐕡 and 𐕞𐕡 which transliterate as OW and ÜW. It is inherited from Greek, like writing OU to say U as in Λουκάς. How should I describe it with Template:head? --Cavidaga (talk) 10:43, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 * Are these digraphs considered letters? I don’t think we have entries for any digraphs unless they are considered letters, like . --Lambiam 19:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 * I saw that on Wikipedia the article does not mention vowels at all and also has nothing about orthography. This may be a better place to add information about these digraphs. BTW, I did not find a font for the Mac that supports the .  --Lambiam 11:00, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

other languages than english
i created a german entry but it came out weird looking. any help on how to format? Baozon90 (talk) 16:14, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 * Hello Baozon90, if you are referring to problems on Yamanashi-Präfektur I have gone ahead and fixed them. You can if you want details on as to what I changed. From what I can see in the way the page came out, the problem was caused by the fact that you entered   as the language code for the entry since it is similar to the word "German". Unfortunately, the language codes used on English Wiktionary are not based on English, but are designed based on the language name in the particular language. Using German as an example, the German word for the German language is "Deutsch". From that, the language code is the first two letters,  . A full breakdown of the language codes for all recognized languages can be found at List of languages.
 * On a separate note, your entry may be considered an example of a sum-of-parts term and therefore not meeting English Wiktionary's criteria for inclusion. More information can be found at Criteria for inclusion. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 18:16, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Use of the term "German Low German"
I have noticed that entries such as -ken and Kind the phrase "German Low German" is used to refer to what I understand simply to be Low German. Is there a particular reason for the construction of the phrase such that it includes the word "German" twice? Thanks. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 18:23, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 * or Dutch Low Saxon is also a Low German dialect, or, rather, a collection of dialects in the dialect continuum. For some reason Dutch Low Saxon has an official EU status of “regional language”. The Dutch balk when this language is referred to as “(Low) German”. Plattdüütsch-speaking Germans outside the State of Lower Saxony  object when their language is referred to as Low Saxon . But just calling it Low German is also problematic, because to linguists that includes Dutch Low Saxon. Kind of a stalemate situation, leading to this awkward compromise.  --Lambiam 19:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

 * Alright then. If such is the case, I guess there isn't much that can be done with out making things more complicated. —The Editor's Apprentice (talk) 03:50, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
 * We could try calling it “German Low Dutch”. :) --Lambiam 09:28, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

ghost corridor
I'm not sure if you have a new pages patrol, so I thought I'd post ghost corridor here. If someone can please proof the page, to make sure that my first contribution is correctly formatted. I'm a long term Wikipedian, but it's my first time creating an entry on Wiktionary. -- Zanimum (talk) 13:42, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

 * It looks good. I would question the inclusion of the "haunted corridor" sense though, as this seems like a sum of parts, simply a corridor of a ghost. (Didn't we discuss and delete one of these a while ago, ghost hotel or something?) Equinox ◑ 13:54, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes - second sense is simply the sum of its parts and should be removed. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:04, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

In English for "time limit", I added a two-word Spanish translation, but the PAIR of words is a redlink
I am a native English speaker, and I am 100% sure this translation is correct and common in Mexico. Here is the English Wiktionary page:

time limit (English phrase, English Wiktionary)

First I added el plazo, which "feels more formal" in Mexico, apparently. It also definitely means deadline or due date, apparently.

Next, I added tiempo límite, which is very common, and is possibly more literal and less idiomatic in Spanish than in English. El tiempo is time (noun, singular), and límite is maximum or minimum (adjective, singular, to agree with tiempo). The English single-word translation of límite (adjective) is extreme (adjective). It is not limited, which is limitado. So tiempo limitado (es) is limited time (en), such as a sale at a store.

The Purely Technical Problem:
There is no single page in English or in Spanish for tiempo límite, but el tiempo (noun) and límite (adjective in this context, also a noun) have pages in both English and Spanish.

Currently, there is a redlinke for "tiempo límite", but I really want to see this:

 * "tiempo (es) límite (es)"

It should be all bluelinks, and four different links.

Ideally, clicking on límite or the (es) above it should bring you directly to the "#Adjective" or "#Adjetivo" anchor within the English and Spanish pages (instead of the Noun and Sustantivo, or just the top of the page). Tiempo goes to the right place automatically, but as a non-native speaker I didn't realize that límite was the adjective of the pair, because límite is more common as a noun in my experience, and I could be totally wrong about word frequency in Spanish.

You can just fix it and I will look at the Wiki Markup language that you wrote. That would be most awesome.

I know how to break everything forever and make it four links, including two "external links" so that I can include "#Adjective" in the URL, but using the Wiki syntax will allow bots to realize "this is a two-word translation", and I know exactly how badly my approach would break the MediaWiki API. But my approach would look correct to a human.

Thank you. Fluoborate (talk) 17:48, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * If you enclose something in the translation in  and , the template will link to the enclosed term instead of to the whole phrase:   will give you . However, that doesn't look like good Spanish, since Spanish doesn't usually interpret the placing of one noun before another as one modifying the other, the way English does. I believe the correct term would be  de . It's true that both are amply attested, but " de " has five times more hits on Google Books- perhaps " " is a calque from English. If we were to create entries for both, " " would be an "alternative form of" entry for the other one.
 * I noticed that you gave a gender for the phrase "tiempo límite", but you wouldn't want to give a gender for " de " because the genders are independent of each other.
 * As for the "(es)" part: once the template sees  and , it interprets everything inside as individual pieces and doesn't bother with giving interwiki information. You could put each one in its own template:   /  de , but that seems to me to be overdoing it. After all, this isn't a translation for the parts, but for the whole (even though the whole is entirely derived from the sum of its parts). By the way: if you know a term has an entry on the Wiktionary for the language, you can use t+ instead of t, though there's a bot that makes the substitution every once in a while, so you don't have to. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:05, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Probably irrelevant trivia, but Tiempo Límite was the title under which the film  was screened in Argentina and Venezuela. In Spain it was A la Hora Señalada, and in Mexico Contra el Reloj or, alternatively, Justo a Tiempo.  --Lambiam 22:46, 30 November 2019 (UTC)


text:
operazión

Noun

 * 1) operation

title: operazión


text: onverlaten

title: onverlaten


text:
kengitysseppä

Noun

 * 1) A farrier.

title: kengitysseppä


text:
ordio

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) barley

Reconstruction notes
The Romance forms reflect an early sense evolution from 'weave, initiate' to 'plot, intrigue'. Many show an infix in the 1SG and other forms, as if reflecting an early.

Descendants

 * Balkan Romance:
 * Italo-Romance:
 * Rhaeto-Romance
 * Gallo-Romance:
 * Gallo-Italian:
 * Occitano-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Gallo-Romance:
 * Gallo-Italian:
 * Occitano-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Occitano-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Occitano-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:
 * Ibero-Romance:

title: ordio


text:
palazio

Noun

 * 1) palace

title: palazio


text:
pareixer

Etymology
from, from.

Verb

 * 1)  to seem

title: pareixer


text:
opiskeluvuosi

Noun

 * 1) year of study

title: opiskeluvuosi


text:
osavuosi

Noun

 * 1) partial year chiefly in compounds

title: osavuosi


text:
painovuosi

Noun

 * 1) engraving year, printing year

title: painovuosi


text:
talousvuosi

Noun

 * 1) financial year

title: talousvuosi


text:
teemavuosi

Noun

 * 1) theme year

title: teemavuosi


text:
tilastovuosi

Noun

 * 1) reference year, statistical year

title: tilastovuosi


text:
toimintavuosi

Noun

 * 1) operating year, operational year

title: toimintavuosi


text:
toimivuosi

Noun

 * 1) operational year

title: toimivuosi


text:
työvuosi

Noun

 * 1) work year

title: työvuosi


text:
vaalivuosi

Noun

 * 1) election year

title: vaalivuosi


text:
vapaavuosi

Noun

 * 1) grace year year as a grace period

title: vapaavuosi


text:
verotusvuosi

Noun

 * 1) tax year

title: verotusvuosi


text:
verovuosi

Noun

 * 1) tax year

title: verovuosi


text:
viljavuosi

Noun

 * 1) grain year, crop year usually used when speaking of a good or bad year in terms of production of grain or crops

title: viljavuosi


text:
virkavuosi

Noun

 * 1) year in office

title: virkavuosi


text:
vuorovuosi

Noun

 * 1) alternating year, alternate year

title: vuorovuosi


text:
vuosiansio

Noun

 * 1) annual income

title: vuosiansio


text:
vuosihoroskooppi

Noun

 * 1) annual horoscope

title: vuosihoroskooppi


text:
vuosijulkaisu

Noun

 * 1) annual publication

title: vuosijulkaisu


text:
vuosikalenteri

Noun

 * 1) year planner

title: vuosikalenteri


text:
vuosikasvain

Noun

 * 1)  a part of sprout that grows once a year

title: vuosikasvain


text:
parpago

Noun

 * 1) eyelid

title: parpago


text:
vuosikasvu

Noun

 * 1) annual growth

title: vuosikasvu


text:
vuosikatsaus

Noun

 * 1) annual review, annual overview, annual report

title: vuosikatsaus


text:
vuosikeskiarvo

Noun

 * 1) yearly average

title: vuosikeskiarvo


text:
vuosikorjaus

Noun

 * 1) annual repair

title: vuosikorjaus


text:
vuosikortti

Noun

 * 1) membership card for a year

title: vuosikortti


text: Category:pl:Sociolinguistics

title: Category:pl:Sociolinguistics


text:
vuosikulu

Noun

 * 1)  annual cost, annual expense

title: vuosikulu


text: vuosikulut

title: vuosikulut


text:
vuosikulutus

Noun

 * 1) annual consumption

title: vuosikulutus


text:
vuosikurssi

Noun

 * 1) class group of students who commenced or completed their education during a particular year

title: vuosikurssi


text:
vuosikustannus

Noun

 * 1) yearly cost, annual expenditure

title: vuosikustannus


text:
vuosimaksu

Noun

 * 1) annual fee

title: vuosimaksu


text:
vuosimyynti

Noun

 * 1) annual sale

title: vuosimyynti


text:
vuosiosuus

Noun

 * 1) annual share

title: vuosiosuus


text:
vuosipalkkio

Noun

 * 1) annual premium

title: vuosipalkkio


text:
vuosiraportti

Noun

 * 1) annual report

title: vuosiraportti


text:
vuosisopimus

Noun

 * 1) annual agreement

title: vuosisopimus


text:
vuosisuunnitelma

Noun

 * 1) annual plan

title: vuosisuunnitelma


text:
vuositarkastus

Noun

 * 1) annual verification, annual inspection, annual checkup

title: vuositarkastus


text:
vuositase

Noun

 * 1) annual balance sheet

title: vuositase


text:
vuositilaaja

Noun

 * 1) yearly subscriber

title: vuositilaaja


text:
vuositilasto

Noun

 * 1) annual statistics

title: vuositilasto


text:
vuositilaus

Noun

 * 1) annual subscription

title: vuositilaus


text:
vuositulo

Noun

 * 1)  annual income, yearly income

title: vuositulo


text: vuositulot

title: vuositulot


text:
vuosituonti

Noun

 * 1) the amount of something, such as a specific material or product, one imports in a year

title: vuosituonti


text:
vuosituotanto

Noun

 * 1) annual production, annual output

title: vuosituotanto


text:
vuosituotto

Noun

 * 1) annual return, annual yield, annual profit

title: vuosituotto


text:
vuosivaihtelu

Noun

 * 1) annual variation, annual fluctuation

title: vuosivaihtelu


text:
vuosivaihto

Noun

 * 1) annual turnover

title: vuosivaihto


text:
vuosivauhti

Noun

 * 1) rate per year, rate per annum

title: vuosivauhti


text:
vuosivienti

Noun

 * 1) the amount of something, such as a specific material or product, one exports in a year

title: vuosivienti


text:
vuosivoitto

Noun

 * 1) annual profit

title: vuosivoitto


text:
vuosivuokra

Noun

 * 1) annual lease, annual rent

title: vuosivuokra


text:
vuosiluku

Noun

 * 1) year, date a specific year

title: vuosiluku


text: oorkussens

title: oorkussens


text:
अर्धे

Etymology
,, from. Compare 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬.

Adjective

 * 1) half

title: अर्धे


text: orakels

title: orakels


text:
orakelen

Verb

 * 1)  to pontificate, to speak at length from a position of authority

title: orakelen


text:
umshwalense

Etymology
Borrowed from.

Noun

 * 1) insurance

title: umshwalense


text:
pintaire

Noun

 * 1) painter

title: pintaire


text:
umqondofana

Noun

 * 1) synonym

title: umqondofana


text:
isiqopha

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) woodpecker

title: isiqopha


text: oudtestamentici

title: oudtestamentici


text:
puji

Verb

 * 1) to praise

Etymology
From, from. .

Noun

 * 1) An act of praise.

title: puji


text: oudgasten

title: oudgasten


text:
imvama

Noun

 * 1) the majority

title: imvama


text:
vấy

Verb

 * 1) to stain

title: vấy


text:
polmón

Etymology
From, possibly borrowed.

Noun

 * 1) lung

Noun

 * 1) lung

title: polmón


text: overtomen

title: overtomen


text:
operahuis

Etymology
Compound of.

Noun

 * 1) opera building, opera house

title: operahuis


text: operahuizen

title: operahuizen


text:
ivaka

Noun

 * 1) coward
 * 2) slovenly person

title: ivaka


text:
ubuvaka

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) cowardice, cowardliness

title: ubuvaka


text: opblaasboten

title: opblaasboten


text:
opblaasgitaar

Etymology
Compound of.

Noun

 * 1) inflatable guitar

title: opblaasgitaar


text:
prenzipe

Noun

 * 1) price

title: prenzipe


text:
prinzesa

Noun

 * 1) princess

title: prinzesa


text:
prenzipio

Noun

 * 1) beginning

title: prenzipio


text:
presona

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) person

title: presona


text:
vikela

Verb

 * 1) to protect

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to parry for, to ward off for
 * 2)  to avoid for, to dodge for
 * 3)  to deny for
 * 4)  to defend, to protect
 * 5)  to shelter

title: vikela


text:
probinzia

Noun

 * 1) province

title: probinzia


text: mastodonten

title: mastodonten


text: korvetten

title: korvetten


text:
overdraagbaarheid

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) the capability of being transmitted

title: overdraagbaarheid


text:
ceulo

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1) to curdle, to coagulate

title: ceulo


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 5


text:
langit-langit

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1)  palate roof of the mouth

Etymology
, from.

Noun

 * 1) any cloths covering the bed roof
 * 2) ceiling
 * 3)  palate roof of the mouth
 * 1)  palate roof of the mouth
 * 1)  palate roof of the mouth

Etymology
.

Noun

 * 1) fabric placed on top of a room under an attap roof
 * 2)  palate roof of the mouth

title: langit-langit


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 6


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 7


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 8


text:
ungehiersum

Etymology
From. Equivalent to.

Adjective

 * 1) disobedient

title: ungehiersum


text:
Talk:bnw

Could you create an image of the first headword? ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:08, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * [[File:Text-egy-bnw.svg]] – Jberkel 00:39, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you! ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  07:50, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

title: Talk:bnw


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 9


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 10


text: fǎnxiàn

title: fǎnxiàn


text: Category:French terms calqued from Occitan


text:
verdraagbaar

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) tolerable, bearable

title: verdraagbaar


text: zhānán

title: zhānán


text:
gehiersumnes

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) obedience

title: gehiersumnes


text:
Talk:caquesseitão

Is there anything in the literature about whether this word is in some way modelled on Malay/? ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:38, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , sorry for the delay. Nothing that I could find, but this article mentions the hypothesis that it comes from kaki Seitan, allegedly “Devil’s feet”. — Ungoliant (falai) 15:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

title: Talk:caquesseitão


text: báifùměi

title: báifùměi


text:
ungehiersumnes

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1) disobedience

title: ungehiersumnes


text: héxiè

title: héxiè


text:
Talk:𐌰𐌹𐍃𐍄𐌰𐌽

Thanks for adding an etymology. How can the presence of the -t- in the Gothic verb be reconciled with that proposed Proto-Germanic etymon? — Mnemosientje (t · c) 13:56, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * (For any future readers, there was some further discussion at User talk:Leornendeealdenglisc.) — Mnemosientje (t · c) 11:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

title: Talk:𐌰𐌹𐍃𐍄𐌰𐌽


text: nǐ kāixīn jiù hǎo

title: nǐ kāixīn jiù hǎo


text: 你高興就好

title: 你高興就好


text: 你高兴就好

title: 你高兴就好


text: գանկ

title: գանկ


text:
ravonal

Noun

 * 1) An intravenous barbiturate for the induction of general anesthesia

title: ravonal


text:
collect call

Noun

 * 1)  A phone call paid for by the receiver (callee), as opposed to the caller.

Usage notes
The usage is arguably dated in the respect that, although the option still technically exists, its use is now unusual, whereas it once was common (circa 1920s to 1990s).

Translations

 * Finnish: vastapuhelu
 * French:
 * German:
 * Persian:

title: collect call


text:
readset

Noun

 * 1)  The set of records read from a database, typically by a single transaction

title: readset


text: readsets

title: readsets


text:
rekyphosis

Noun

 * 1) An abnormal double curvature of the spine

title: rekyphosis


text: renaturalisation

title: renaturalisation


text: renaturalisations

title: renaturalisations


text:
renometry

Noun

 * 1) The measurement of the function of a kidney.

title: renometry


text:
renometric

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to renometry.

title: renometric


text:
repredict

Verb

 * 1) To predict again

title: repredict


text:
repredicted

Adjective

 * 1) predicted again

title: repredicted


text:
resinicolous

Adjective

 * 1)  That inhabits the resin exuded by some trees

title: resinicolous


text: liáogē

title: liáogē


text:
reticulinic

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to, or composed of reticulin

title: reticulinic


text:
retyrosinate

Verb

 * 1) To undergo retyrosination

title: retyrosinate


text:
retyrosinated

Adjective

 * 1) tyrosinated again

title: retyrosinated


text:
ribonucleotidyl

Adjective

 * 1) Relating to a ribonucleotide

Noun

 * 1)  A univalent radical derived from a ribonucleotide

title: ribonucleotidyl


text:
hotu

Noun

 * 1) common nase; sneep

Verb

 * 1)  to sleep

Adjective

 * 1) all

title: hotu


text: nantaika

title: nantaika


text:
wowasu

Etymology
Partial.

Noun

 * 1) request, demand the act or an instance of asking for something

title: wowasu


text:
wowaro

Etymology
Partial.

Noun

 * 1) knowledge

title: wowaro


text:
dumaha

Verb

 * 1)  to wait

title: dumaha


text:
sidika

Etymology
. Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  to leave to depart from; to end one's connection or affiliation with
 * 2)  to abandon, to desert to cease to support or look after someone

title: sidika


text:
nyinga susa

Etymology
Literally, "(for one's) heart to be difficult".

Verb

 * 1)  to be troubled

title: nyinga susa


text:
nyinga

Etymology
From. Cognates include 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) heart
 * 2) liver
 * 1) liver

Verb

 * 1)  to remember
 * 2)  to like
 * 1)  to like

title: nyinga


text: rockshelter

title: rockshelter


text:
ngitu

Etymology
Compare 🇨🇬.

Verb

 * 1)  to think to guess; to reckon

title: ngitu


text: rockshelters

title: rockshelters


text:
ngofa

Etymology
Cognates include 🇨🇬 and 🇨🇬.

Noun

 * 1) child
 * 2) person of certain origin
 * 1) person of certain origin

title: ngofa


text:
sonyinga

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to remember, to keep in mind to recall from one's memory
 * 2)  to ponder, to think about, to care about to wonder, to be deeply concerned about
 * 3)  to miss to feel the absence of someone or something
 * 4)  to love to care deeply about, to be dedicated to
 * 1)  to love to care deeply about, to be dedicated to

title: sonyinga


text: Category:Ternate verbs

title: Category:Ternate verbs


text: Category:xcl:Skeleton

title: Category:xcl:Skeleton


text:
menjejaki

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to tread to step or walk upon
 * 2)  to investigate to examine, look into, or scrutinize in order to discover something hidden or secret
 * 1)  to investigate to examine, look into, or scrutinize in order to discover something hidden or secret

title: menjejaki


text:
menyelidiki

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to investigate to examine, look into, or scrutinize in order to discover something hidden or secret

title: menyelidiki


text:
rotavaporate

Verb

 * 1)  To evaporate in a rotavapor

title: rotavaporate


text:
kwarrelig

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) undersized while having a grown together or shrivelled appearance

title: kwarrelig


text:
Talk:коляда

 * From Requested entries (Russian)

 * , (from 🇨🇬?) ultimately from 🇨🇬. Doublet of . Apparently has a mobile accent: in the plural (see ru:коляда)? ru.wikt also has an entry for ru:Коляда, a mythological figure?
 * About the mobile accent, see 🇨🇬. Our translation tables at and  give,  but I think that might just be a mistake.  speaks of Belarusian  in the singular (well, he writes коляда́ but we already know he doesn't pay attention to Belarusian orthographic vowel reduction)
 * It is not necessarily to assume a Church Slavonic mediation, *kolęda is a part of the Common Slavic Christian terminology (which is notably Latin in origin). The correct stress is каля́ды (Russian коля́ды).
 * All right. Last question about this word: do you know why ru.wikt gives the plural forms with an asterisk?
 * The usual sense ‘Christmas folk tradition’ is abstract, thus uncountable. The dialectal term ‘a day of Christmas’ is countable, however; dictionaries give коля́ды. Guldrelokk (talk) 19:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * As for ru:Коляда, any alleged Slavic mythological figure needs double-checking. The vast majority of them are Pseudogottheiten. In Russian the phenomenon of folk deities being dreamed up by nonrigorous academics is known as кабинетная мифология, and the Wikipedia article gives ‘Коляда’ as just an example. This topic, unfortunately, is FULL of poor science, pseudo-science and outright crackpottery. Guldrelokk (talk) 03:51, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for clearing that up! кабинетная мифология is a funny expression in itself (reminds me of or ; I think the image is the same). Does it deserve an entry, or just a usex at кабинетный? Per utramque cavernam 14:13, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not well-versed in the rules. The term is widely used in literature on the subject, including an encyclopedic dictionary Славянская мифология. Энциклопедический словарь, and possibly merits inclusion. Guldrelokk (talk) 19:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
 * : Some Belarusian sources put stress on the last syllable -, even provide accented inflected forms. Pls check slounik. It's hard to establish the correct Belarusian stress on some terms. can be confirmed as a place name in Belarus, though. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 11:43, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It’s каляда́ ~ каля́ды, same accent pattern as рука́, сястра́ etc., ubiquitous in Belorussian. Guldrelokk (talk) 12:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 * : Thanks. It must be a d accent pattern then? is not the best example, since it has forms {m|be|рука́м}}, {m|be|рука́мі}}. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 21:39, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes. Historically both b (сястра) and c (галава). Guldrelokk (talk) 05:41, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

title: Talk:коляда


text:
mengunjungi

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1)  to visit to come to see

title: mengunjungi


text: mengartikan

title: mengartikan


text: menafsirkan

title: menafsirkan


text:
menapaki

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to tread to step or walk upon
 * 2)  to investigate to examine, look into, or scrutinize in order to discover something hidden or secret
 * 1)  to investigate to examine, look into, or scrutinize in order to discover something hidden or secret

title: menapaki


text:
merampungkan

Etymology
From .

Verb

 * 1)  to finish, to complete to bring to a successful completion
 * 2)  to settle, to resolve to conclude; to address a problem etc.
 * 1)  to settle, to resolve to conclude; to address a problem etc.

title: merampungkan


text: menyelesaikan

title: menyelesaikan


text:
membereskan

Etymology
From. Attested before 1944.

Verb

 * 1)  to arrange to put in order
 * 2)  to settle, to resolve to conclude; to address a problem etc.
 * 1)  to settle, to resolve to conclude; to address a problem etc.

title: membereskan


text:
mengucapkan

Etymology
.

Verb

 * 1)  to say, to express to convey or communicate
 * 2)  to utter, to pronounce to sound out a word or phrase; to articulate
 * 1)  to utter, to pronounce to sound out a word or phrase; to articulate

title: mengucapkan


text:
menyebarluaskan

Etymology
From.

Verb

 * 1)  to spread to extend over a large or increasing area
 * 2)  to disseminate, to propagate, to promulgate an idea, theory, etc.

title: menyebarluaskan


text:
memijak

Etymology
From , from. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1)  to tread to step or walk upon

title: memijak


text:
menginjak

Etymology
From, from. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1)  to tread to step or walk upon
 * 2)  to reach to continue living until, or up to, a certain age
 * 3)  to visit to come to see
 * 1)  to visit to come to see

title: menginjak


text:
menyusun

Etymology
From, from. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1)  to stack, to accumulate to heap up in a mass; to pile up
 * 2)  to compose, to compile, to frame to construct by mental labor; to think up
 * 3)  to organize, to arrange to put things in a neat, attractive, or required order
 * 1)  to organize, to arrange to put things in a neat, attractive, or required order

title: menyusun


text:
mengarang

Etymology 1
From, from. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1)  to arrange, to combine to organize in a neat way
 * 2)  to thread, to string to put on a string
 * 1)  to thread, to string to put on a string

Etymology 2
From, from. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1)  to compose, to compile to form something from various items
 * 2)  to compose, to write to produce music, poetry, or formal writing
 * 3)  to contrive, to concoct, to make up to compose something with the intent to deceive

title: mengarang


text:
gehiersumian

Etymology
From. Equivalent to.

Verb

 * 1) to obey
 * 2) * c. 992, Ælfric, "On the Lord's Prayer"
 * "ang"

- Swā swā wē habbaþ on ānum līchaman manegu limu, and hīe eall ānum hēafde ġehīersumiaþ, swā ēac wē sċulon maniġe cristene menn Criste on ānnesse ġehīersumian, for þon þe hē is ūre hēafod and wē sind his limu.

title: gehiersumian


text:
szczęśliwego Nowego Roku

Etymology
lit. 'happy New Year'.

Interjection

 * 1)  happy New Year

title: szczęśliwego Nowego Roku


text:
loofrijk

Etymology
Compound of.

Adjective

 * 1) leafy, having leaves in abundance

title: loofrijk


text: Category:Middle Armenian terms borrowed from Classical Syriac


text:
luchtader

Etymology
Compound of.

Noun

 * 1)  trachea, windpipe

title: luchtader


text: deflorates

title: deflorates


text: deflorating

title: deflorating


text: deflorated

title: deflorated


text:
luchtledig

Etymology
Compound of.

Adjective

 * 1) vacuum, vacuous containing or pertaining to a vacuum

title: luchtledig


text:
قرقف

Etymology 1
Borrowed from /  /.

Noun

 * 1) a wine bowl

Etymology 2
, compare.

Verb

 * 1) to make shiver, to make tremble

title: قرقف


text:
luchtzee

Etymology
Compound of.

Noun

 * 1)  atmosphere
 * 2)  sky, air

title: luchtzee


text:
luchtsteen

Etymology
From.

title: luchtsteen


text: luchtstenen

title: luchtstenen


text:
stick to one's text

Verb

 * 1)  To limit one's focus to the matter at hand, or the primary subject at issue; to avoid diversion.

title: stick to one's text


text: sticks to one's text

title: sticks to one's text


text: sticking to one's text

title: sticking to one's text


text: stuck to one's text

title: stuck to one's text


text:
Reconstruction:Proto-Finnic/torvi

Etymology
From earlier, borrowed from (whence 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬), ultimately from.

Noun

 * 1)  shepherd's horn
 * 2) tube, pipe

Descendants

 * North Karelian:
 * South Karelian:
 * North Karelian:
 * South Karelian:
 * North Karelian:
 * South Karelian:

title: Reconstruction:Proto-Finnic/torvi


text:
مز

Etymology
, compare.

Verb

 * 1) to suck, to slurp

Etymology
From.

Noun

 * 1)  inner shoes, slippers, chaussons

title: مز


text:
ILTF

Proper noun

 * , the founding name of the.

title: ILTF


text: rubber banding

title: rubber banding


text: rubber banded

title: rubber banded


text: rubber-banding

title: rubber-banding


text: rubber-banded

title: rubber-banded


text: ANAs

title: ANAs


text:
User:Scottmacstravic

I've been having trouble figuring out how to amend definition pages in a way that will satisfy your rules, but I hope you will consider adding a word to your collection, namely "In-State", a word that is no doubt limited to the USA, and has no connection to the words "instate" or "in-state". In the US, "In-State" describes the lower level of tuition that public universities charge to citizens of the state in which the university is located, compared to "Out-of-State" tuition levels for non-residents. Thus the word "Out-of-State" might also be added. Both words are adjectives.

Scott MacStravic

I just discovered that you have already included "in-state" and "out-of-state in our collection, though without the capitalization typical of other citations. Glad to see it.

Scott MacStravic I am confused, however. You have three versions of "instate", i.e. the preceding spelling, as well as alternatives ̠"in state" and "in-state", though these alternatives are not listed among the anagrams for "instate". Is this a policy of Wiktionary, or an accidental omission?

title: User:Scottmacstravic


text: Category:Italian terms calqued from Swedish


text:
anti-nuclear antibody

Noun

 * 1)  An autoantibody which binds to the contents of a cells nucleus.

title: anti-nuclear antibody


text: anti-nuclear antibodies

title: anti-nuclear antibodies


text: ANF

title: ANF


text: ANFs

title: ANFs


text:
voi sentään

Interjection

 * 1) oh dear! oh bother!

title: voi sentään


text:
anti-nuclear factor

Noun

 * 1)  anti-nuclear antibody

title: anti-nuclear factor


text: anti-nuclear factors

title: anti-nuclear factors


text: ping-ponging

title: ping-ponging


text: ping-ponged

title: ping-ponged


text: FTAs

title: FTAs


text: CJs

title: CJs


text: Category:Italian spelling pronunciations


text: SLEs

title: SLEs


title: 4Fs


text:
Talk:куща

 * Is this indeed a doublet of ? The Vasmer entries and the semantics leave me unsure. Per utramque cavernam 16:23, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, Vasmer speaks against a connection of with . The former is listed under  in ESSJa, but there is a ton of old and dialectal East Slavic material under *kǫtja too, including Russian dialectal  (as if unknown to Vasmer). From these same words Derksen cites too, so placing  under  is a mistake. Guldrelokk (talk) 16:44, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the clarification. С новым годом! Per utramque cavernam 19:00, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you, с Новым годом. Guldrelokk (talk) 10:36, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

title: Talk:куща


text:
Reconstruction talk:Proto-Slavic/stublь

Origin from pIE *(s)tew- /to hit, to stroke/
From what I found in the etymological dictionaries, it appears that *stublь and its derivatives descend from proto-Indo-European extended with -b-/-bʰ-. All sources which I found ultimately qoute Pokorny. Other proto-Slavic terms of this family are likely 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬, and 🇨🇬 (the last one is the origin of 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬 (dialectic) and is possibly related to 🇨🇬, 🇨🇬). Apparently the semantic history of the term went from tool for pushing/hitting > erect, strict, hard > trunk/spout/cold. The problem is that no source clarifies whether the coda is pIE *-b- or pIE *-bʰ-, so I'm reluctant to add it. Bezimenen (talk) 16:29, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

title: Reconstruction talk:Proto-Slavic/stublь


text:
humanoidní

Adjective

 * 1) humanoid

Related terms

 * See

title: humanoidní


text: Category:Spelling pronunciations by language


text: GMPs

title: GMPs


text:
Talk:roadblock

Idiomatic
Isn't there also an idiomatic version of this? E.g., like in hit a roadblock or ran into a roadblock. --Mortense (talk) 16:34, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

title: Talk:roadblock


text:
Planctae

Proper noun

 * 1) A group islands of the Black Sea, mentioned by Pliny

title: Planctae


text: DIDs

title: DIDs


text:
humanoidalny

Etymology
From.

Adjective

 * 1) humanoid

title: humanoidalny


text: DOSes

title: DOSes


text: DOTs

title: DOTs


text: Wiktionary:Foreign Word of the Day/2019/January 1


text:
Carambucis

Proper noun

 * 1) A river of Scythia mentioned by Pliny, probably the

title: Carambucis


text: RIs

title: RIs


text:
antreffen

Verb

 * 1)  to come across
 * 2)  to meet

title: antreffen