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Talk:Socialism/Archive 3

Interlanguage
For fun, it's interesting to read what other language wikis have to say about the subject.

Summaries:
 * Dutch : Socialism started in the 19th century, it started with marx, but it's changed a lot since then. Here's a list of socialist .orgs in .nl (not a literal translation). The note at the end is enlightening: "Note that in the USA, socialism is a swearword."  Talk about blunt dutch people.

 * French :  " Socialism is a collective political ideology who's goal it is to protect people against attacks on their wellbeing ", um, my french sucks...

 * German : Makes a divide between Realsozialismus  (from the old soviet union), and  Sozialdemokratie (which is what's used in western germany). Remember that germany was split in east and west? It's really interesting to see that split showing up on the wikipedia :-) . The intro paragraph goes:  " Socialism is the set of political theories wherein justice and the freeing of the individual within society are central" . (translating meaning->meaning)

Kim Bruning 08:09, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * The French definition is particularly difficult to translate - made worse by the use of the term "ontology" which is a slippery term in either language. But perhaps it is something we could work with. Another way of rendering it might be:  " Socialism is a collectivist political ideology which advocates defending the interests of workers in relations of social conflict."  Sunray 02:44, 2004 Mar 31 (UTC)

Well, I checked out portugese, esperanto and swedish as well. I don't officially know those langauges so I'm not going to try to actually translate them. :-P

I do notice that the current *english* article is mostly about say the face of socialism: who did it, who says what it is or what it isn't etc. It doesn't actually mention terms like collectivism, solidarity or class struggle, which are important to the underlying philosphy which is common to all socialists by the look of it.

Heh, and I'm not even a socialist, I think I'm getting the hang of NPOV here. :-)

Hmmm, how about saying what socialism *is* and skipping what it isn't. It might make for a somewhat shorter article than the current one (socialism isn't nazism, socialism isn't communism, socialism isn't the kitchen sink... etc...) Kim Bruning 08:29, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Define what socialism is... I like that idea and I'm also not a socialist. We could resort to some noted authorities on the subject instead of simply people's POV.  Gasp, we could even bring in what some socialist thinkers have said on the subject.  My head is beginning to swim with the possibilities.  I'd better go.  Yours in hope. Sunray 19:27, 2004 Mar 30 (UTC)

I wanted to compliment you all on the fine discourse. I havn't much to ad other than to praise the civility and focus on other wiki's. Quality articles are nothing exclusive to the english wiki, and I am glad you appreciate that. Maybe we'll soon have a entry on socialism good enough for me to know what the word means? ;) Here's hoping! p.s. Please put in that part from the dutch wiki about the use of the word in the US, its quite an apt summary ;) Sam Spade 03:20, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

What socialism is (or isn't)
"What socialism is (or isn't)": the problem, and we can't make it go away, is that there is no consensus agreement on exactly who is, or is not, a socialist. What this article can try to do is to sketch the complex territory, point out the mountains, give reasonable citations and attributions as to who says what, and (what is, perhaps, missing now) try to give a flavor of what the various types of socialism have in common. However, we are not in a position to successfully "define" a term that is used differently by different people. This is exactly analogous to Wittgenstein's discussion of the word "game" in the Philosophical Investigations: there is simply not one definition that embraces baseball, chess, and peek-a-boo. There is a common thread, it can be drawn, but simple explanations are inherently going to be false. -- Jmabel 03:38, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * As far as I can tell, the concensus is that socialism is ment ot be good for poor people, at least in theory. The improvement of the conditions of the lower class (at least in theory/propaganda, what-have-you) are common thruout all versions of socialisms, as far as I can tell. Egalitarianism and a removal of private ownership to one extent or another may or may not be included, that is much more debateable. Sam Spade 21:50, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Those are certainly necessary conditions for a worldview to be called socialist, but certainly they are not sufficient. Christian charity is not socialism. -- Jmabel 01:30, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Sure. Collectivism, solidarity, and class struggle appear to be the defining common thread in socialism. RTFIW (Read The Friendly InterWiki) :-) Kim Bruning 11:02, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

controversial
I found there's a controversial tag and added it to 3 articles that seemed worthy of it. Thanks to the english wiki attracting usaians, there's some controversy between them and other folks who have very different ideas of socialism than they do! :-)

Hmm, actually the current article really and truely sucks, since it isn't being very sophisticated as far as the divide-and-conquer trick tactic is concerned. It'd be a lot more coherent if different socialist kinds were split into different headings or even different articles entirely.
 * modern applications of socialist thought should be upfront, since that's what most people will expect in an encyclopedia.
 * the ussr was important during the 20th century so should get prominent mention also.

Socialism has a common base, which apparently can be divided very roughly into the bolshewik-like and menshewik-like lines of thought. That's the first split into 3 parts you can make right there. Can others help figure out how to divide and conquer further? Kim Bruning 13:03, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

"Menshevism" is already pretty radical. I'd say the first split would be between Marxist socialism and early utopian socialism. The latter basically died out. Then you'd have a split within Marxism between "orthodox" Marxism which continued to advocate the revolution, and "revisionist" socialism, which advocated change through reformism, and is the ancestor of present-day social democracy. Within "Orthodox" Marxism, you'd have a split between Menshevism (Or Independency, in Germany - that is to say, genuine orthodox Marxism) and Bolshevism (or Spartacism, in Germany, or Marxism-Leninism). The latter has frequently split further, the former has mostly disappeared, I think. You also have academic Marxism, which is generally fairly idiosyncratic, and doesn't necessarily fit in with any of the various mass socialist movements. john 20:44, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Very unhappy with recent edits by 195.92.168.165
195.92.168.165 recently made a set of edits, supposedly for NPOV, which I think make mush out of the article. However, since nearly all of the edits are in my writing and claim to be for NPOV, I am not the appropriate person to revert them. Someone independent, please review and make a decision! -- Jmabel 18:04, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Hmm...I'm not sure. I think the anon is right that the current article has some mildly POV phrasing.  But the anon's changes have generally been for the worse.  What do others think? john 18:23, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * I'd say they were sound edits, but that there is much, much more to be done. I personally, and readers at large of course, need this to be a brilliant article, capable of allowing me, as an american ;) to understand what the heck socialism is anyway. Is it the traquil utopia's of sweden and soc dem europe, or the death camps of stalin and pol pot, or the dubious and controvercialy embargo'ed cuba? If it is ALL of these, what the heck brings it all together??? All I know is the article needs alot more work. Sam Spade 18:43, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * It certainly is all of these, just like capitalism is both the vibrant cities of America and the sweatshops of East Asia. Or for that matter, the vibrant cities of East Asia and the sweatshops of (South-of-the-Border) America. Anyway, I'm going to stay out of making any significant edits in this article for a while, although I will stay active in the talk page: right now the article has more content from me than from any one other person and since this appears to be a POV dispute, I should probably try to stay at arm's length. But would someone without too much of an axe to grind please have at 195.92.168.165's material, which, again, seems to me to be absolutely mushy? -- Jmabel 20:01, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

And another new edit that strikes me as silly; new part is bolded: "In the U.S., the federal government continues to run the post office, many local governments own power companies and other utilities, plus the aerospace and military-industrial complex..." I am unaware of U.S. local governments owning the aerospace and military-industrial complex. (I did take the liberty of correcting the same person's misspelling of Keynes's middle name, figured that should be uncontroversial!). -- Jmabel 20:25, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * Looks like TDC promptly reverted it. TDC: isn't it nice to know that there are people out there so crazy that you & I can both agree that they are wrong? -- Jmabel 20:36, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

 * HA! Good one. TDC 20:41, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I was the one who added the part about the military industrial complex. I can't remember what handle i used to use on here, and i forgot how to automatically sign; its been a while since I have played on the wiki. In the past I have added things to this page that other co-editors have appreciated, so I was a little surprised at first when I logged on tonight to see that the part I added was silly, "plus the aerospace and military-industrial complex". I think that part needs to be there, and I'll now explain why, but in doing so I'll also say that in re-reading the the paragraph on the whole, I understood and agreed with it being removed. The point of this paragraph, as I read it, is that even in countries that people consider capitalist, there are aspects of their economic activity which some people consider socialist or socialistic. One of these aspects is state ownership. My reading of socialist theory is that state ownership is only one of several aspects which could be considered socialist, and that another for instance is state planning. It is here with the state planning that I added the part about the military industrial complex. What is the relationship between state planning and state ownership? State ownership would obviously seem to include and imply state planning (primarily here the allotment of budget/resources/debt). But it is also entirely true that the state planning mechanism works just the same insofar as economic life is concerned regardless of whether or not the state owns the means of production in question (in this case aerospace and military) or if it simply supplies the capital and directs the (private) firm's economic life in that way. Conversely, it is also true that the state can own the economy on the whole, but allow considerable individual autonomy in terms of supply and price setting to the individual managers at each enterprise or firm, the competition mechanism. This was the case in the economic side of Kruschev's de-Stalinization program in the USSR; state ownership was a legal-political matter here, but the managers of the enterprises played the economic and social role that a capitalist would, with the state acting as the bank or lending institution, and thus the state can mimic the effects of competition. The point of state ownership or state planning is not based upon any ideological or moral motives as far as the economist is concerned, but rather on the need for economies of increasing scale to pump a certain knowable, planned, and solvent flow of liquid capital into the economy in order to alleviate the chaotic or anarchic effects of laizzes-faire "hands off" economic policy typical of 19th and early 20th century forms of capitalism, which both Marx and Keynes have stated is the source of the boom-bust cycle of growth and depression. Ownership, a property and thus legal question, only has secondary or super-structural effects on econonic mechanisms of control like planning versus markets (competion). Or if one would reject this analysis, one could simply say that state ownership of the means of production effectually constitutes the private property of the ruling clique that runs and thus owns the government. In any case, I agree most of my addition was incorrect because the paragraph did not yet explain that state planning is an economically "socialist" mechanism that can take the form of state ownership but dosen't necessarily have to. This can also be, though not limited to, something understood within the context of keynes, even though I couldn't spell his middle name I am quite familiar with keynes none the less. One of the contradictions (see dialectics in the marx entry) of the capitalist economy according to socialists is the "anarchy of production", i.e, the boom-bust cycle. Keynes later reitereated this nearly a hundred years later, and that is the Marx-Keynes connection. With this said, I will wait another day or so to make the necessary changes to the entry, and if anyone contests what I have done then, I know they will say something about it here! Capone 21 april 2004

 * The reason it was silly was because you were saying that local government owned the military-industrial complex. That is not, of course, the case. john 05:05, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Um yeah thanks John, if you read the post you'll find that I said I understood why it was taken out. But now you'll see it makes sense when I put it back in, yeah? Capone 22 april 2004

 * Alright, I'll admit to not having read all of your novel length disquisition, so I suppose I missed that part. john 23:46, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

So I made that part clear with my additions, and the information now then seems to logically flow. Also, in regards to the history of socialism, while the term socialism seems to date back to the beginning of the 19th century, the economic and ideological roots date at least as far back as the Enlightenment in the 18th century. A direct line follows even before if you look at the Diggers and Levellers around the English Civil War in the mid 1600's, coming to support the Republic of England, the New Model Army and Cromwell. In the Enlightenment, 80 or so years after the short lived Republic of England, (particularly the French Enlightenment as opposed to the more moderately tempered English Enlightenment), the socialist ideas of liberty, franternity, and egalitarianism were expressed in the writings of Condercet, Voltaire, Rousseau, Diderot, Mably, Morrelly and the like. This was, needless to say, quite a while before the Utopian Socialists like Robert Owen, Saint-Simon, and Fourier. The French Enlightenment was the ideological product of the 17th and 18th century struggle against absolutist, aristocratic, feudal, and oligarchical establishment embodied by figures like Louis XVI. In turn the French Revolution effected the Enlightenment, and changed from being the ideas of a small group of intellectuals who were not interested in how they were regarded by officialdom, to the ideology of masses of France, in particular the French artisan bourgeoisie and artisan proletariat. The radical program of the Jacobins and Robespierre was not radical enough for the maximalist program of the Conspiracy of Equals. The CoE, led by Grachus Babeuf, organized around the program of complete expropriation of the bourgeoisie as a class. Babeuf had been a Jacobin militant, but he and his faction of the most radical of the sans-coulliotes splintered to form the CoE. The radical program of the CoE can be juxtaposed to the comparatively moderate program of the Jacobins who only expropriated aristacratic/noble property while allowing for and basing its support in the property owning city bourgeoisie, though placing tight controls on the profit margins of the bourgeois through the laws of the maximum. If the Jacobin's program can be compared to either the corporatist, social-democratic, or moderate socialist parties of today, then Babeuf on the CoE can be compared to the radical socialists or communists of today. In defending the principles of communism, Babeuf extensively cited and relied upon Rousseau, Mably, and Morrelly. At Babeuf's execution at the hands of Robespierre's Jacobins, Babeuf is quoted as saying, "The masses can no longer find a way to go on living; they see that they possess nothing and that they suffer under the harsh and flinty oppression of a greedy ruling class. The hour strikes for great and memorable revolutionary events, already forseen in the writings of the times, when a general overthrow of the system of private property is inevitable, when the revolt of the poor against the rich becomes a necessity that can no longer be postponed", (Babeuf's statement at his execution, 1796). Babeuf considered Robespierre a betrayer of the communist principles of earlier Jacobinism, arguing that the laws of the maximim still allowed for the bourgeoisie to exist and exploit others. After Babeuf's death, however, the organization and movement continued to develop and find new leadership in people Babeuf's long time Jacobin comrades Buonarroti and Blanqui. Buonarotti and Blanqui involved Karl Schapper, and Karl Schapper was the leading figure of the League of the Just, which was based upon Babeuf and Blanqui's philosophies and organizational models. Karl Marx later joined the League of the Just, and would then soon after be called the Communist League. Capone 22 4 04

socialism with Chinese characteristics
I made some changes to take into account socialism with Chinese characteristics. First of all its not true that all socialisms believe that the economy is run for the benefit of a small elite. The Chinese government certainly doesn't official state that this is true of the Chinese economy. Also, its also not the case that all socialisms favor cooperation over competition, again this is not the case for China.

Roadrunner 08:32, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

1.) I think these changes have relevant information, but now the article reads as an article about the chinese exceptions to these frameworks we are laying out here. I think the changes need to be better assimilated into the article because its now discontinuous and the focus on chinese exceptionalism runs through it.  Certainly this isn't an article about chinese socialisms vs. all other socialisms.  A billion and a half people live in a country whose government party is the communist party and they claim to be socialist, so  obviously this needs more treatment than the article had before the changes, but now after these changes it seems like, well, there is too much specificity about where chinese socialism deviates from other socialisms.

2.) I think these specificities are POV or careless, since Roadrunner clearly hasn't accounted for the social democratic position, which is *as socialist* as it claims to be, and that position ALSO says that private ownership in collusion or competition with the public sector can = socialism.

3.) Roadrunner didn't glean from the article that when socialists say that "the government or the economy is run in the interests of the rich or the few" - they aren't talking about how things OUGHT to be, they aren't talking about SOCIALISM, they are talking about CAPITALISM. In other words, this isn't a socialist statement about a future or present socialist society. Is this article about socialism or chinese revisionism? -Capone 5-6-04

 * I've tried to better integrate Roadrunner's material. I do think it is important that the Chinese case be discussed, but equally important that it not come to dominate the article. I believe I have retained all of Roadrunner's substantive points, while reducing the volume of words and improving the flow. -- Jmabel 18:13, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Make this a disambig page instead?
Hmm, since different people simply have different ideas about even the definition of socialism, this page is going to be controversial forever. Perhaps it'd be wiser to simply have links to the different meanings of socialism used in different parts of the world. That way we'd have proper NPOV articles on each version, rather than the total definition mess we have now. Kim Bruning 09:33, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

 * Strongly opposed. The fact that a topic is complicated doesn't mean it's incoherent. Virtually all ideologies/systems/etc. considered to be socialist share common roots and much common history. The fact that they have diverged makes the topic very complicated, but that complexity needs explication somewhere, and this is where. Yes, all of those additional, more circumscribed articles should also exist. -- Jmabel 19:51, 9 May 2004 (UTC)

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Add reference to RFC 1956?
It may be useful to add a reference to RFC 1956 - Registration in the MIL Domain to this page. -- Peter Kaminski (talk) 18:58, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MFK

This page is an archive of the discussion surrounding the proposed deletion of the page entitled MFK.

This page is kept as an historic record.

The result of the debate was to delete the article.

Discussion from Pages needing translation into English:

 * MFK: Clasico buzo vestido durante su pubertad por el famoso escritor bisexual ... -- Chris 73 | Talk 02:54, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Looks like near-nonsense to me. Speedy deletion? -- Jmabel 04:31, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
 * It's Spanish, and appears to be written in a more-or-less encyclopedish style, although the machine translation doesn't make a lot of sense. Derrick Coetzee 19:59, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
 * How odd. It says that "MFK" is the name of a sweater once worn by a well-known writer.  The writer became depressed and committed suicide after losing the sweater.  No google hits on the name as "Guido Larocca."  I tried the alternate "Guido La Rocca" and got hits, but nothing that looked like a famous bisexual author. Isomorphic 20:59, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Speed delete: patent nonsense, future history. "That's exactly what happened in the fall of 2004... before he committed suicide on August 14 of that same year". Har har! A less fanciful contribution seems to show that User:168.226.127.217 is a bored teenager whose name might be Maximiliano Sanchez. Wile E. Heresiarch 05:30, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Maximiliano Sanchez also deserves a speedy delete. -- Jmabel 05:49, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Amen. I just voted for a regular delete for the Sanchez page, but hey, I won't argue against a speedy kind of bye-bye for all of these little bits of vanity and tripe.  So...SPEEDY delete! - Lucky 6.9 06:14, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Libelous, juvenile trash. Speedy delete. Alcarillo 14:47, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

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Talk:Province of Zaragoza

Saragossa
Please examine Talk:Zaragoza, Spain before changing this page. I found much broader usage of "Zaragoza" than "Saragossa." - Montréalais 01:47, 11 May 2004 (UTC)

 * "Saragossa" is the catalan spelling of this name. See an entry in the most important catalan dictionary [| saragossà]. Catalan nationalists are part of the reason because the spelling "Saragossa" has got any status at all. --Enric Naval 21:50, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Cinco de mayo
I have a question. Can anyone tell me how this is related to cinco de mayo? I am doing a report about this and have no idea how it is related. Please, can someone help me?
 * I don't see how it can be. Cinco de Mayo, the 5th of May, is the day of Mexican FORTHEWIN over teh Frenchies, tho the general who was the hero of the day's last name is Zaragoza (Ignacio Zaragoza Seguín tho the Seguín is a way of naming that uses his mom's middle name... the family name is Zaragoza).  You're already on Wikipedia.  Didn't you look up Cinco de Mayo? : ) 217.166.94.1 (talk) 12:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Cinco Villas
There's an empty area on the map of Cinco Villas comarca. Is this a lake, or an exclave from Navarra? 217.166.94.1 (talk) 12:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Edit, the name's on the Navarre page... Petilla de Aragón, a part of Navarre. And the other little area is apparently just some chunk of mountain or something : ) 217.166.94.1 (talk) 12:55, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Province of Zaragoza
Hello, I see that most of Provinces of Spain follow "Province of" naming principle, and it will be good to move this page as "Province of Zaragoza".--Liridon (talk) 22:03, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 1 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved  Dr Strauss   talk   17:45, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Zaragoza (province) → Province of Zaragoza – Per WP:CONSISTENCY with names for other non-autonomic provinces of Spain having cities with homonymous names. For some reason, all of them follow the "Province of [name]" naming scheme but this one. Even categories (including the one for Zaragoza) are named according to this scheme, with this being named differently for no explained reason (and it seems this was already proposed (albeit without a formal RM) about one year ago, attracting no attention). Impru20 (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support move per nom.  ONR  (talk) 10:12, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Support move. --Jotamar (talk) 17:42, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

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Blues (Super Rugby)

The Blues (Kahurangi; known as the Auckland Blues from 1996 to 1999) are a New Zealand professional rugby union team based in Auckland, who play in the Super Rugby competition. Like New Zealand's four other Super Rugby teams, the Blues were established by the NZRU in 1996. One of the most successful teams in Super Rugby history, the Blues won the competition in its first two seasons, 1996 and 1997, and again in 2003 and 2024. Additionally, the team were finalists in 1998 and 2022, and semi-finalists in 2007, 2011 and 2023. They won a Trans Tasman competition in 2021.

Formation, Early Years and Immediate Success (1996–97)
Along with New Zealand's other Super Rugby sides, the Blues were established by the NZRU to take part in the newly formed Super 12 competition which, involved teams from South Africa and Australia in addition to New Zealand. Each of New Zealand's five sides represented a number of provincial unions, with the Blues representing the Auckland, Counties Manukau and Thames Valley unions, while the neighbouring Waikato Chiefs representing the Waikato, Bay of Plenty, King Country, Northland and North Harbour unions. As the amount of international representatives in the Auckland region was thought to be unfair, it was split up between The Blues and The Chiefs. During this era, the Blues played the majority of their home matches at Eden Park, with round robin fixtures occasionally held at Growers Stadium in Pukekohe.

The Blues tasted immediate success, winning the Super 12 back-to-back in 1996 and 1997. In 1996 the side won eight of eleven round robin matches and finished the regular season in second place (behind the Queensland Reds on 41 points. They then went on to defeat Northern Transvaaal, now the Bulls, 48–11 in the semi-final at Eden Park. This result secured a home final, where the Blues comfortably defeated the 45–21. In 1997, the side improved on their previous season, comfortably topping the table with 50 points after going undefeated in the regular season, the sole blemish on an otherwise perfect season being a draw with Northern Transvaal in a re-match of the previous season's semi-final. The Blues once again easily won their semi-final, defeating the  55–36 at Eden Park and again securing a home final. The 1997 final was a more hard fought encounter than the previous year's, with the Blues defeating the ACT Brumbies 23–7.

Middle Years (1998–2005)
By the end of the 1990s the number of international representatives from the Blues region had decreased. This led the Blues and the Chiefs to arrange a swap, where the Chiefs would represent the Thames Valley and Counties Manukau provincial unions in exchange for the Blues representing the Northland and North Harbour unions in addition to Auckland. Although in the seasons leading up to the trade North Harbour and Northland had outperformed Counties Manukau and Thames Valley in provincial rugby (thus potentially widening the already sizeable gap between the Blues' and Chiefs' on-field performance), it enabled both teams to represent unions in closer geographical proximity. Because of this trade, the Blues lost the area colloquially referred to as South Auckland, (excluding those portions of the South Auckland to the north of Manurewa). Thus, the Blues traded a portion of South Auckland for the Northern portion of the Auckland region and Northland, and still do not represent the entire Auckland region. Generally supporters in the South Auckland region identify as Blues supporters even though they are technically in the Chiefs region. In 2000, the Auckland Blues dropped the Auckland prefix from their name, and became known simply as 'Blues'.

The 1998 season saw the Blues again top the points table with 43 points at the conclusion of the round robin, with nine wins and two losses to their credit. They defeated the Otago Highlanders by 37–31 in the side's third consecutive home semi-final, securing a home final against the Crusaders, a match which promised a great deal due to Auckland's traditional sporting rivalry with Canterbury. The Crusaders ultimately won the match by 20–13, putting an end to the Blues' dominance of the competition.

From 1999 – 2002 the Blues' onfield performance was poor, missing the playoffs every season, finishing at an all-time low of 11th on the ladder in 2001 with just four wins for the season. The club was able to turn its from around in the 2003 season, topping the ladder with 49 points and 10 wins from 11 matches. The team went on to defeat the ACT Brumbies by 42–21 in the semi-final, before beating the Crusaders 21–17 in the final for the team's third Super Rugby title. The Blues were unable to follow their 2003 success up in 2004 and 2005 however, missing the playoffs in both seasons.

Super 14 Era (2006–10)
The expanded 14 team competition could not have started worse for the Blues, who were in 2006 forced by the NZRU to include North Harbour captain Rua Tipoki in their squad of 24 players who are 'protected' from the draft. Tipoki was originally to be excluded from the draft due to personal circumstances to stay in Auckland. Andrew Mehrtens had in the past done this with the Crusaders. The NZRU however forced coach David Nucifora to pick Tipoki in his 24-man squad and hence drop another player. It is believed the NZRU was in favour of dropping players such as Isa Nacewa who are ineligible to play for the All Blacks. Instead, Nucifora excluded All Black Isaia Toeava, who subsequently played for the Hurricanes in 2006. Following the draft fiasco, and the forgettable season which followed, the Blues showed signs of resurgence in 2007, finishing the round robin in fourth place, securing a semi-final against the Sharks in Durban. The travel and form of the opposition were too difficult to overcome, however, with the Blues losing to the eventual runners-up by 34 – 18. The 2008 season, the final under coach David Nucifora, saw the team finish the season with an 8 – 5 record and a sixth-place finish on the ladder. In 2009, Pat Lam was appointed as coach, however the team was not able to make significant improvements under his leadership for the remainder of Super 14, missing the playoffs in both the 2009 and 2010 seasons.

2011 season
In 2011 the Super Rugby competition was expanded to 15 teams and adopted a conference format. The Blues had a successful start to the season, defeating the Crusaders by 24–22 at Eden Park. This was followed by a win and a loss on their South African tour, followed by a 22-all draw against the Western Force in Perth. This was followed by a seven match winning streak between rounds five and twelve. However, the mid-season winning streak came to an abrupt end with a 37 – 31 loss to the Queensland Reds in Brisbane, which initiated a four match losing-streak. In the final round-robin match of the season, the Blues defeated the Highlanders by 33–16 at Eden Park, securing the side's first playoff appearance since 2007 and first home playoff match since 2003. The team subsequently defeated the New South Wales Waratahs 26 – 13 to secure a semi-final against the Queensland Reds in Brisbane, which they lost 30–13.

The 2011 season also marked the departure of Kurtis Haiu, who was diagnosed with a bone tumour in April. Following his diagnosis, he took an indefinite break from rugby to focus on his health.

2012 season
2012, the team's fourth season under coach Pat Lam, saw the arrival of former Hurricanes icons, and 2011 Rugby World Cup winners, Ma'a Nonu and Piri Weepu. The regular season began on 24 February against the Crusaders at Eden Park. Following two successive losses to start the season, the side's first victory came away to the Bulls, with starting debutant Gareth Anscombe scoring all of the Blues points in the 29–23 win. In doing so, Anscombe set a team record for most points in a match. In the same match, Rene Ranger became the first Blues player to receive a White Card, which resulted in a two-week suspension. Seven consecutive losses followed, beginning with the Stormers in round four, and finishing with the Hurricanes in round eleven. Growing frustration amongst fans was evident during this period, with racist remarks directed at coach Pat Lam via social media, talkback radio and the Blues own website. Lam, who is of Samoan descent, received support from a number of former Blues players during this period, including Michael Jones and Eroni Clarke. After beating the Lions in round twelve, the Blues suffered the biggest defeat in club history with a 59 – 12 loss away to the Crusaders, which was followed by losses at home to the Highlanders and table-topping Chiefs. The Blues finished the season on a high note, with wins against the Western Force and Brumbies.

On 17 July, Pat Lam was released. On the same day, Sir John Kirwan was appointed as head coach for the 2013 and 2014 seasons. In August, the Blues' full coaching staff for the 2013 season was announced, with Sir Graham Henry taking on a role as technical advisor and defensive coach, Mick Byrne appointed forwards and kicking coach, and Grant Doorey appointed skills and backline coach.

2013 season
The 2013 season saw an all new Blues team with many players leaving, including Ma'a Nonu to the Highlanders and Gareth Anscombe to the Chiefs. On the morning of 31 October 2012 new coach Sir John Kirwan announced the 2013 Blues squad which included 14 Super Rugby debutants, and Ali Williams taking over as captain. Handed a bye on the first round the Blues started the regular season on 23 February 2013 with a 34–20 away win against the Hurricanes, followed by a 34–15 home win against the Crusaders the next week. 3 consecutive losses followed, including the Bulls first victory at Eden Park. The Blues regained some form again, winning 4 of the next 5 games. Beating the Highlanders at home and completing the double over the Hurricanes with a 28–6 win at Eden Park before losing a close game against the Reds. The Blues then defeated both the Stormers and the Rebels before losing 3 games in a row to the Crusaders, Brumbies, and Highlanders respectively. The Blues then travelled to South Africa with two must win games against the Sharks and the Cheetahs, unfortunately losing both and ending the Blues chances of making the play-offs. Ali Williams played his 100th game for the Blues against the Sharks. The Blues returned to New Zealand with a last home game against the already play-off qualified Chiefs. Despite a red card to Kane Barrett for stomping in the 23rd minute, the Blues played a remarkably strong game, taking the lead just after half-time but a yellow card to first-five Baden Kerr struck another blow for the Blues. The mounting Chiefs pressure paid off resulting in a Ben Tameifuna try with 17 minutes to go, winning the game for the Chiefs. The Blues walked off the field to a standing ovation from their fans, the first time an Eden Park crowd had been upstanding for a defeat.

The Blues finished the season in 10th place, with 6 players earning All Black call ups and Frank Halai as the team's top try scorer scoring 10 tries in his debut season. They signed international super star Benji Marshall for the 2014 season (only to return to league with the Dragons halfway through it) and Ma'a Nonu for two seasons starting in 2014.

2014 season
The Blues 2014 season started with coach Sir John Kirwan announcing 6 new players to the squad including three All Blacks with the return of Ma'a Nonu and Tony Woodcock after they both played with the Highlanders for a season, and Jerome Kaino. This also included former NRL player Benji Marshall who had previously played with the Wests Tigers for 10 years.

The Blues season started with an away loss to the Highlanders, going down 29–21. The next week they played their first home game of the season at Eden Park, defeating the Crusaders 35–24. They travelled to South Africa for two games against the Sharks and the Lions, losing both games but coming away with a losing bonus point against the Lions. They returned to New Zealand for two home games against the Cheetahs and the Highlanders, both of which they won bringing the up to 6th place on the ladder. The team travelled to Canberra to face the Brumbies and were defeated 26–9, and were defeated again by the Hurricanes in Wellington after a bye week. This was followed by two home games against the Waratahs and the Reds, winning both and coming away with a bonus point win against the Reds. They then lost their next two games going down to the Chiefs and the Sharks, picking up a losing bonus point against the Sharks. They returned to Eden park to defeat the Hurricanes, followed by a bonus point win in Perth against the Western Force. This put them into 8th place on the ladder with two games to play in the regular season before finals, needing to place in the top 6 for a spot in the play-offs. They lost to the Crusaders in Christchurch, therefore to make the finals they needed to win their final game against the Chiefs who were in the same situation. They lost their final game against the Chiefs going down 11–8, putting them out of the finals and ending a six-game winning streak at Eden Park for the season. The Blues finished 10th overall and 5th place in the New Zealand conference.

Ihaia West, Patrick Tuipulotu, Benji Marshall, and Tom Donnelly all made their Blues super rugby debut in the 2014 season.

2015 season
The 2015 season started with coach Sir John Kirwan announcing the Blues squad, with the inclusion of 11 new players after losing 12 players including Ma'a Nonu and Piri Weepu, who both played over 100 super rugby games.

The Blues season started with a loss to the Chiefs, going down 23–18, picking up a losing bonus point. This was followed by an unsuccessful tour of South Africa, going down to the Stormers and Cheetahs, coming away with a single bonus point from a 25–24 loss to the Cheetahs. This was followed by four consecutive losses against the Lions, Hurricanes, Waratahs and Chiefs, 3 of which they picked up a losing bonus point. Their first win of the season came against the Brumbies at Eden Park with a 16–14 victory, ending the Blues 9 game losing streak. This was followed by consecutive losses against the Highlanders and Crusaders, picking up a bonus point against the Highlanders. This was followed by a strong 41–24 win against the Force. Their next game against the Rebels was their final away game of the season, they lost 42–22, ending the season with no away wins, having only won two away games in the last three years. Their final four games were all at home with high hopes of finishing the season on a high. They won the first game 23–18 against the South African conference leaders the Bulls, however this was their last win of the season going down in their final three games against the Hurricanes, Crusaders and Highlanders. This ended the franchises worst super rugby season, ending in 14th place ahead of the Force, with just 3 from 16 wins for the season.

The end of the season was marked by the resignation of coach Sir John Kirwan, who had been with the team for the last three years winning just 17 out of 58 games. The Blues signed former All Black captain Tana Umaga to replace Sir John Kirwan as head coach of the Blues.

2016 season
The Blues endured yet another disappointing year in 2016, although there were some improvements. A close first round win over the Highlanders by 33-31 was followed by successive losses to the Crusaders (28-13) and Hurricanes (19-23). A 25-25 draw with the Reds in Round 4 was followed by a 24-16 win over the Jaguares in Round 6 (Round 5 being a bye). A week later the Blues lost to the Chiefs by 23-29, but bounced back with wins over the Sharks (23-18), Rebels (36-30) and Kings (34-18). A humbling 5-43 loss to eventual finalists the Lions was followed by a tight 17-13 win over the Force. Another tight game resulted in a 21-26 loss to the Crusaders, while a yet another loss followed against the Hurricanes 27-37. Dominant wins against the Brumbies (40-15) and Waratahs (34-28) showed that the Blues could still be highly competitive, however their last-place conference finish left them outside the qualification pool for the season´s semi-finals, with rival New Zealand franchise the Hurricanes emerging the eventual champions.

2017 season
2017 again saw the Blues finish bottom of the New Zealand conference, with an even 7 wins and 7 losses to their credit. The up and down nature of their season was reflected in the margins of both their biggest win - 56-18 in Round 1 over the Rebels - and their heaviest defeat - 48-21 to the Sunwolves in the final round in Tokyo. During the 2017 British and Irish Lions tour, the Blues pulled off a shock win over the British and Irish Lions 22–26 at Eden Park. Rookie Blues winger Reiko Ioane distinguished himself during the match, scoring a try and notably outpacing Lions and England winger Elliot Daly. Blues reserve first-five Ihaia West and All Black centre Sonny Bill Williams also impressed during the match, both scoring tries and West adding a penalty and conversion to a remarkable result against the tourists.

2018 Season
2018 would see the Blues again finish last in their conference, with a poor record of only four wins vs 12 losses in a miserable season. Crushing losses to the Hurricanes (42-24) and Crusaders (54-17) in the last two rounds illustrated how far the team´s performances had collapsed from coach Tana Umaga´s first, relatively respectable season in charge, and emphasized the need for structural reform at the club. A reshuffle resulted in Umaga being demoted to an assistant coaching role, and the appointment of former All Black, Crusaders assistant and Tasman Mako head coach Leon MacDonald as new Blues coach the following season.

2019 Season
MacDonald´s first year in charge saw little in the way of definite improvements to the Blues win–loss record, with only 5 wins from 17 games giving them their sixth consecutive last-place finish in the New Zealand conference. All Black prop Karl Tu’inukuafe and former All Black Maá Nonu were recruited from the Chiefs and Toulon, respectively. While their overall standards had improved, their margins of both victory and defeat remaining consistently low, the Blues were unable to mount much of a challenge that season.

2020 Season
Due to the COVID 19 Global Pandemic there was no international Super Rugby competition held in 2020 - with the competition instead delivered via 3 local conferences ie. Australia, NZ and South Africa. In the NZ Conference - Super Rugby Aotearoa, the Blues had a significantly improved season, winning 5 of their 7 games and claiming 4th position at the end of the season.

2021 Season

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic the tournament was wholly regionalised, with the 2021 Super Rugby Aotearoa season and the 2021 Super Rugby AU season replacing the previous 15 side format used from 2018 till 2020. Super Rugby Trans-Tasman followed these tournaments, a crossover competition that featured the five Australian sides playing the five New Zealand sides. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Super_Rugby_season).

The Blues won 4 of their 8 games, finishing the 2021 season in 3rd place, in the 6 team NZ based competition.

2022 Season

The Blues participated in the first Super Rugby Pacific season in 2022, and finished first in the 12 team round robin. In round 9 they scored their first win in Christchurch over the Crusaders since 2004, winning 27-24 in a thriller at Orangetheory Stadium. In round 15 they beat the Warratahs 20-17, by a Zarn Sullivan drop goal after the 80 minute mark. This marked the franchise's 13th straight win, the longest in franchise history. In the Quarter-Finals they played the Highlanders, who they beat 35-6, to reach their first Semi-Final in 11 years. In the Semi-Final they beat the Brumbies 20-19 in a thrilling encounter. Brumbies first-five Noah Lolesio had a match winning drop goal attempt, but this was charged down by Blues prop Ofa Tu'ungafasi, in turn sending the Blues to their first final since 2003, where they were defeated by the Crusaders 21-7 in front of a packed out Eden Park.

Rivalries
Overall the Blues have dated rivalries with all other New Zealand-based Super Rugby teams (Chiefs, Hurricanes, Crusaders and Highlanders), however a notable trophy is contested between the Blues and Highlanders. The Gordon Hunter Memorial Trophy is contested between the Blues and Highlanders as a part of regular season fixtures between the two sides. The trophy is awarded in memory of Gordon Hunter, who had been head coach of both teams prior to his passing away in 2002.

Stadium
The team's primary home ground is Eden Park, located in the central Auckland suburb of Kingsland. The stadium has a capacity of 50,000. In addition to hosting Blues home matches, the ground is the home of the Auckland Rugby Football Union and Auckland Cricket, and is a frequent host of All Blacks matches, and hosted the 2011 Rugby World Cup semi-finals, third-place playoff, and final.

In addition to Eden Park, Blues home matches are occasionally held at North Harbour Stadium, home of the North Harbour Rugby Union, and Okara Park, home of the Northland Rugby Union.

Franchise area and ownership
The Blues represent the Auckland, North Harbour, and Northland rugby unions. As of 2021 60% of the club is owned (divided 65%, 29% and 6%) by the three unions, through Rugby Holdings Ltd., and 40% by private consortium Better Blues Company Limited. The previous Blues (and Auckland Rugby Football Union) CEO was Michael Redman, who was formerly CEO of the New Zealand Breakers basketball team. The current board is made up of six members. Don Mackinnon, also a former New Zealand Netball and High Performance Sport NZ director, took over in 2019 as Blues Chairman from Tony Carter who chaired the board since it became a stand-alone organisation in 2013. The current board includes John Hart, Sam Lotu-liga, Richard Dellabarca, Kate Daly, Grant Graham and Brian Wilsher.

Andrew Hore took up the top job as CEO of the Blues in October 2019. Hore beat off serious competition from 70 applicants to become Blues CEO and believes glory days can return to the team's home ground of Eden Park. Hore was previously CEO at the Ospreys in Wales before going on to turn around the New South Wales Waratahs and NSW Rugby before deciding it was time to return to New Zealand to the Blues' challenge.

Development team
The Blues have fielded a development team in competitions such as the Pacific Rugby Cup and in matches against other representative teams for several seasons. Known as the Blues Development XV, the squad is selected from the best emerging rugby talent in the Blues catchment area and is composed of Blues contracted players, wider training group members, under 20s, and selected club players.

Current squad
The squad for the 2024 Super Rugby Pacific season is:

2024 coaching staff

 * Head coach: Vern Cotter
 * Assistant coach: Craig McGrath (Defence coach)
 * Assistant coach: Paul Tito (Forwards coach)
 * Assistant coach: Dan Halangahu (Skills coach)
 * Assistant coach: Greg Feek (Scrum coach)
 * Assistant coach: Jason O’Halloran (Attack coach)

Captains

 * 🇳🇿 Zinzan Brooke (1996–1997)
 * 🇳🇿 Michael Jones (1998)
 * 🇳🇿 Robin Brooke (1999–2001)
 * 🇳🇿 Glenn Taylor (2002)
 * 🇳🇿 Xavier Rush (2003–2005)
 * 🇳🇿 Keven Mealamu (2006, 2009–2012)
 * 🇳🇿 Troy Flavell (2007–2008)
 * 🇳🇿 Ali Williams (2013)
 * 🇳🇿 Luke Braid (2014)
 * 🇳🇿 Jerome Kaino (2015–2016)
 * 🇳🇿 James Parsons (2016–2017)
 * 🇳🇿 Augustine Pulu (2018)
 * 🇳🇿 Blake Gibson (2019)
 * 🇳🇿 Patrick Tuipulotu (2019–2021, 2024-present)
 * 🇳🇿 Dalton Papalii (2022–2023)

Coaches
Notes: Official Super Rugby competition matches only, including finals.

Super Rugby (1996–Present)
1996, 1997, 2003, 2024 1998, 2022 2021 1996, 1997, 1998, 2003, 2007, 2011, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
 * Champions (4)
 * Runners-up (2)
 * Super Rugby Trans-Tasman Champions (1)
 * Playoff Appearances (8)

World Club 10s
2014
 * Champions (1)

Brisbane Global Tens
2018
 * Champions (1)

Season standings
A season-by-season summary of Blues regular season results is shown below:
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 * 1996            || 1st  || 11 ||  8 || 0 || 3 || 408 || 354 ||  +54 ||  9 || 41 || align=left | Defeated  in final
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 * 1997            || 1st  || 11 || 10 || 1 || 0 || 435 || 283 || +152 ||  8 || 50 || align=left | Defeated  in final
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 * 1998            || 2nd  || 11 ||  9 || 0 || 2 || 388 || 298 ||  +90 ||  7 || 43 || align=left |
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 * 1999            || 9th  || 11 ||  4 || 1 || 6 || 202 || 201 ||  +1  ||  5 || 23 ||
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 * 2000            || 6th  || 11 ||  6 || 0 || 5 || 300 || 262 ||  +38 ||  6 || 30 ||
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 * 2001            || 11th || 11 ||  4 || 0 || 7 || 243 || 298 ||  −55 ||  4 || 20||
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 * 2002            || 6th  || 11 ||  6 || 0 || 5 || 318 || 249 ||  +69 ||  5 || 29 ||
 * - align=center bgcolor=#FFE6BD
 * 2003            || 1st  || 11 || 10 || 0 || 1 || 393 || 185 || +208 ||  9 || 49 || align=left | Defeated  in final
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 * 2004            || 5th  || 11 ||  6 || 1 || 4 || 337 || 309 ||  +28 ||  6 || 32 ||
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 * 2005            || 7th  || 11 ||  6 || 0 || 5 || 243 || 216 ||  +27 ||  3 || 27 ||
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 * 2006            || 8th  || 13 ||  6 || 0 || 7 || 290 || 348 || –58  ||  5 || 29 ||
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 * 2007            || 4th  || 13 ||  9 || 0 || 4 || 355 || 235 || +120 || 6  || 42 || align=left | Lost to  in semi-final
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 * 2008            || 6th  || 13 ||  8 || 0 || 5 || 354 || 267 ||  +87 ||  8 || 40 ||
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 * 2009            || 9th  || 13 ||  5 || 0 || 8 || 339 || 369 ||  -30 || 12 || 32 ||
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 * 2010            || 7th  || 13 ||  7 || 0 || 6 || 376 || 333 ||  +43 ||  9 || 37 ||
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 * 2011         || 4th  || 16 || 10 || 1 || 5 || 405 || 335 || +70  || 10 || 60*|| align=left | Lost to  in semi-final
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 * 2012         || 12th || 16 ||  4 || 0 || 12|| 359 || 430 || -71 ||  8 || 32* || align=left |
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 * 2013         || 10th || 16 ||  6 || 0 || 10|| 347 || 364 || -17  || 12 || 44* || align=left |
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 * 2014         || 10th || 16 ||  7 || 0 || 9 || 419 || 395 || +24  || 9  || 37 ||
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 * 2015         || 14th || 16 ||  3 || 0 || 13|| 282 || 428 || –146 || 8  || 20 ||
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 * 2016         || 11th || 15 ||  8 || 1 || 6 || 374 || 380 ||  –6  || 5  || 39 ||
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 * 2017         || 9th  || 15 ||  7 || 1 || 7 || 425 || 391 || +34  || 7  || 37 ||
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 * 2018         || 14th || 16 ||  4 || 0 || 12|| 378 || 509 || –131 || 6  || 22 ||
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 * 2019         || 13th || 16 || 5  || 1 || 10|| 347 || 369 || −22  || 8  || 30 ||
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 * 2020         || 4th  || 7  || 5  || 0 || 2 || 192 || 134 || +58  || 2  || 22 || align=left | Season cancelled due to Covid-19
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 * 2020 || 2nd || 8  || 5  || 1* || 2 || 176 || 149 || +27  || 2  || 24 || align=left | No playoffs, round robin only
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 * 2021 || 3rd || 8  || 4  || 0 || 4 || 210 || 191 || +19  || 4  || 20 || align=left |
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 * 2021        || 1st  || 5  || 5  || 0 || 0 || 198 || 79  || +119 || 3  || 23 || align=left | Defeated  in final
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 * 2022 || 2nd  || 14 || 13 || 0 || 1 || 472 || 284 || +188 || 6  || 58 || align=left | Lost to  in final
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 * 2023 || 5th  || 8  || 5  || 0 || 3 || 285 || 173 || +112  || 6  || 26 || align=left |Lost to Crusaders in semi-final
 * 18
 * 16
 * 0
 * 2
 * 599
 * 268
 * +331
 * 7
 * 55
 * Defeated Chiefs in final
 * }

Results per opposition
Blues Super Rugby results vs different opponents

Team Records

 * Highest Regular Season Placing: 1st (1996, 1997, 1998, 2003, 2022)
 * Most Wins in a Season: 16 (2024)
 * Most Points in a Season: 599 (2024)
 * Most Tries in a Season: 87 (2024)
 * Fewest Wins in a Season: 3 (2015)
 * Fewest Points in a Season: 202 (1999)
 * Fewest Tries in a Season: 15 (1999)
 * Biggest Win: 60 – 7 (53 point win in 2002 vs. Hurricanes – Wellington)
 * Biggest Loss: 12 – 59 (47 point loss in 2012 vs. Crusaders - Christchurch)
 * Most points ever scored in a game: 74 (74 - 28 win in 1998 vs. Stormers - Auckland)
 * Fewest points ever scored in a game: 3 (3 - 20 loss in 2004 vs. Reds - Brisbane), (3 - 23 loss in 2013 vs. Crusaders - Christchurch)

All time record

 * Games played: 290
 * Games won: 154
 * Games lost: 131
 * Games drawn: 5
 * Winning percentage: 53.10%
 * Points for: 7750
 * Points against: 6983
 * Tries for: 922
 * Tries conceded: 767

Record updated as of Round 9 v Brumbies, 2017

Players that have represented the All Blacks
87 officially recognized Blues players have gone on to represent the All Blacks as of the 2017 season. There have been a total of 268 players to have played for the Blues which means that 30% of all Blues over two decades have either represented the All Blacks or have gone on to represent them.

 * John Afoa (36 tests, 2 matches)
 * Ben Atiga (1 test)
 * Norm Berryman (1 test)
 * Andrew Blowers (11 tests, 7 matches)
 * Anthony Boric (24 tests, 1 match)
 * Daniel Braid (6 tests)
 * Robin Brooke (62 tests, 7 matches)
 * Zinzan Brooke (58 tests, 42 matches)
 * Olo Brown (56 tests, 13 matches)
 * Mark Carter (7 tests, 3 matches)
 * Adrian Cashmore (2 tests)
 * Caleb Clarke (5 tests)
 * Eroni Clarke (10 tests, 14 matches)
 * Greg Cooper (7 tests)
 * Jimmy Cowan (51 tests, 2 matches)
 * Ron Cribb (15 tests)
 * Chresten Davis (2 matches)
 * Steve Devine (10 tests)
 * Tom Donnelly (15 tests)
 * Matt Duffie (2 matches)
 * Craig Dowd (60 tests, 7 matches)
 * Marc Ellis (8 tests, 12 matches)
 * Tamati Ellison (4 tests, 1 match)
 * Bryn Evans (2 tests)
 * Nick Evans (16 tests)
 * Charlie Faumuina (50 tests)
 * Greg Feek (10 tests)
 * Malakai Fekitoa (23 tests)
 * Sean Fitzpatrick (92 tests, 36 matches)
 * Troy Flavell (22 tests)
 * Richard Fromont (10 matches)
 * Rico Gear (19 tests, 1 match)
 * Frank Halai (1 test)
 * Alex Hodgman (4 tests)
 * Shane Howarth (4 tests, 6 matches)
 * Doug Howlett (62 tests, 1 match)
 * Dillon Hunt (1 test, 1 match)
 * Craig Innes (17 tests, 13 matches)
 * Akira Ioane (2 tests, 1 match)
 * Rieko Ioane (34 tests)
 * Michael Jones (55 tests, 19 matches)
 * Jerome Kaino (83 tests, 2 matches)
 * Tanerau Latimer (5 tests, 1 match)
 * Danny Lee (2 tests)
 * Walter Little (50 tests, 25 matches)
 * Jonah Lomu (63 tests, 10 matches)
 * Keith Lowen (1 test)
 * Steven Luatua (15 tests)
 * Angus Macdonald (2 tests)
 * Alby Mathewson (4 tests, 1 match)
 * Mark Mayerhofler (6 tests)
 * Luke McAlister (30 tests, 1 match)
 * Keven Mealamu (132 tests, 1 match)
 * Kees Meeuws (42 tests, 3 matches)
 * Brad Mika (3 tests)
 * Dylan Mika (7 tests, 1 match)
 * George Moala (4 tests)
 * Mils Muliaina (100 tests, 2 matches)
 * Waisake Naholo (26 tests)
 * Craig Newby (3 tests)
 * Ma'a Nonu (103 tests, 1 match)
 * Dalton Papalii (4 tests)
 * James Parsons (2 tests)
 * Tim Perry (6 tests, 2 matches)
 * Charles Piutau (17 tests)
 * Augustine Pulu (2 tests)
 * Caleb Ralph (14 tests, 2 matches)
 * Rene Ranger (6 tests)
 * Greg Rawlinson (4 tests)
 * Charles Riechelmann (6 tests, 4 matches)
 * Mark Robinson (3 tests, 5 matches)
 * Joe Rokocoko (68 tests, 1 match)
 * Xavier Rush (8 tests)
 * Francis Saili (2 tests)
 * Carlos Spencer (35 tests, 9 matches)
 * Benson Stanley (3 tests)
 * Jeremy Stanley (3 matches)
 * Lee Stensness (8 tests, 6 matches)
 * Hoskins Sotutu (5 tests)
 * Angus Ta'avao (14 tests)
 * Saimone Taumoepeau (3 tests, 1 match)
 * Glenn Taylor (1 test, 5 matches)
 * Isaia Toeava (36 tests, 1 match)
 * Ofisa Tonu'u (5 tests, 3 matches)
 * Ofa Tu'ungafasi (39 tests)
 * Karl Tu'inukuafe (17 tests)
 * Mose Tuiali'i (9 tests, 1 match)
 * Patrick Tuipulotu (35 tests)
 * Anthony Tuitavake (6 tests, 1 match)
 * Sam Tuitupou (9 tests)
 * Joeli Vidiri (2 tests)
 * Piri Weepu (71 tests, 2 matches)
 * Ali Williams (77 tests, 1 match)
 * Sonny Bill Williams (58 tests)
 * Royce Willis (12 tests)
 * Derren Witcombe (5 tests)
 * Tony Woodcock (118 tests)
 * Rudi Wulf (4 tests)

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William D. Boyce

William Dickson Boyce (June 16, 1858 – June 11, 1929) was an American newspaper man, entrepreneur, magazine publisher, and explorer. He was the founder of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) and the short-lived Lone Scouts of America (LSA). Born in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, he acquired a love for the outdoors early in his life. After working as a schoolteacher and a coal miner, Boyce attended Wooster Academy in Ohio before moving to the Midwest and Canada. An astute businessman, Boyce successfully established several newspapers, such as The Commercial in Winnipeg, Manitoba, and the Lisbon Clipper in Lisbon, North Dakota. With his first wife, Mary Jane Beacom, he moved to Chicago to pursue his entrepreneurial ambitions. There he established the Mutual Newspaper Publishing Company and the weekly Saturday Blade, which catered to a rural audience and was distributed by thousands of newspaper boys. With his novel employment of newsboys to boost newspaper sales, Boyce's namesake publishing company maintained a circulation of 500,000 copies per week by 1894. Boyce strongly supported worker rights, as demonstrated by his businesses' support of labor unions and his concern for his newsboys' well-being.

By the early years of the 20th century, Boyce had become a multi-millionaire and had taken a step back from his businesses to pursue his interests in civic affairs, devoting more time to traveling and participating in expeditions. In 1909, he embarked on a two-month trip to Europe and a large photographic expedition to Africa with photographer George R. Lawrence and cartoonist John T. McCutcheon. Over the next two decades, Boyce led expeditions to South America, Europe, and North Africa, where he visited the newly discovered tomb of King Tutankhamun.

Boyce learned about Scouting while passing through London during his first expedition to Africa in 1909. According to somewhat fictionalized legend, Boyce had become lost in the dense London fog, but was guided back to his destination by a young boy, who told him that he was merely doing his duty as a Boy Scout. Boyce then read printed material on Scouting, and on his return to the United States, he formed the B.S.A.

From its start, Boyce focused the Scouting program on teaching self-reliance, citizenship, resourcefulness, patriotism, obedience, cheerfulness, courage, and courtesy in order "to make men". After clashing over the Scouting program with the first Chief Scout Executive James E. West, he left the B.S.A. and founded the L.S.A. in January 1915, which catered to rural boys who had limited opportunities to form a troop or a patrol.

In June 1924, five years before Boyce's death, a merger was completed between the B.S.A. and the struggling L.S.A. Boyce received many awards and memorials for his efforts in the U.S. Scouting movement, including the famed "Silver Buffalo Award".

Personal life and family

Boyce was born on June 16, 1858, in New Texas, Pennsylvania – now Plum Borough —to a Presbyterian farm couple, David and Margaret Jane Bratton Boyce. The Boyces had three children: William Dickson, Mary, and John. During his rural childhood, Boyce acquired a love for the outdoors. He began teaching school at the age of 16 and then worked briefly as a coal miner. He returned to teaching before joining his sister at Wooster Academy in Ohio, which—according to school records—he attended from 1880 to 1881. It is uncertain if he graduated or was expelled.

He then worked as a teacher, lumberjack, secretary, and salesman in the Midwest and Canada before settling in Chicago, where he quickly became known as a persuasive and shrewd salesman and learned business quickly. His books on business, travel, and expeditions often used the phrase "We pushed on." On January 1, 1884, Boyce married Mary Jane Beacom (1865–1959), whom he had known since his Pennsylvania childhood. Boyce called her Betsy, but to many her nickname was "Rattlesnake Jane" because she matched his skill in poker, was an expert shot, and rode horses cross saddle. It had also become obvious that she was more masculine than Boyce himself, although he had never admitted this, it became clear out of his journal. They had one son and two daughters: Benjamin Stevens (1884–1928), Happy (1886–1976) and Sydney (1889–1950).

Boyce's personal activities included hunting, yachting, Odd Fellows, Freemasonry, Shriners, golf, country clubs and the Chicago Hussars—an independent equestrian military organization.

In 1903, Boyce purchased a four-story mansion on 38 acre in Ottawa, Illinois, which became the center of his family and social activities. Thereafter, he showed little interest in Chicago and its social activities; he would only go there on business. Boyce and Mary led increasingly separate lives and eventually divorced, which was reported on the front page of the Chicago Tribune because of the prominence he had attained by that time. The divorce was finalized in a Campbell County, South Dakota court in September 1908; his wife's property settlement was close to $1 million (USD).

After the divorce was finalized, Boyce courted Virginia Dorcas Lee, a vocalist from Oak Park, Illinois, who was 23 years his junior and the eldest child of Virginia and John Adams Lee, a former Lieutenant Governor of Missouri. Both Virginia's parents and Boyce's son Ben opposed the relationship. In May 1910, after the planned marriage was announced, an infuriated Ben scuffled with his father outside the Blackstone Hotel and Boyce sustained a facial wound. Ben was arrested for disorderly conduct and fined $5 and court costs. Two days later, Boyce and Virginia married and went to Europe on an extended honeymoon. Almost immediately, there was speculation amongst family members and in newspapers about problems within the marriage. On April 9, 1911, Boyce and Virginia had a daughter, whom they named Virginia. A few months later, in December 1911, Boyce signed an agreement to support and educate their infant daughter. After Boyce's wife filed for divorce in March 1912, she moved to Santa Barbara, California, with their daughter and her parents. Boyce did not contest the divorce and arranged for a $100,000 settlement. Years later, the elder Virginia married Richard Roberts, a New York banker, and moved with her and Boyce's daughter to Greenwich, Connecticut. The younger Virginia took the surname Roberts. She did not meet her natural father, Boyce, until she was eight years old.

Ben married Miriam Patterson of Omaha, Nebraska, on June 11, 1912. Both Boyce and his first wife attended the ceremony. At this time Boyce's first wife, Mary, exchanged some of her Chicago property for the home in Ottawa, which sparked speculation that she and Boyce might reconcile. The next year they remarried on June 14, 1913, in Ottawa. They then departed on a honeymoon to Alaska, Hawaii, the Philippines, Panama, and Cuba, with their daughter Happy, son Ben, and his wife Miriam.

Business enterprises
As Boyce traveled, he often started a newspaper wherever he went. His first venture into commercial publishing was compiling a city directory. He also worked briefly for a publisher in Columbus, Ohio, and a newspaper publisher in Kensington, Pennsylvania, part of Philadelphia. He then boarded a train for Chicago and worked as a secretary and salesman for Western magazine. Restless again, he moved to Saint Paul, Minnesota, and sold advertisements for a publisher for a short time and then spent a month in Fargo, North Dakota, and Grand Forks, North Dakota. Further north in Canada, in Winnipeg, Manitoba, he and local resident James W. Steen co-founded The Commercial in 1881, a newspaper that lasted for 70 years. He sold his share of "The Commercial" to his partner in 1882 and returned to Fargo where he became a reporter. In December 1882, Boyce moved to Lisbon, North Dakota, where he bought the Dakota Clipper.

Beginning in December 1884, Boyce managed reporters and news releases at the "Bureau of Correspondence" at the six-month-long World's Industrial and Cotton Centennial Exposition in New Orleans, Louisiana. Countries from all over the world sent displays. Boyce was responsible for providing news stories on events and displays to over 1,200 newspapers around the country. He returned to North Dakota after the Exposition concluded, but by early 1886 he had moved back to Chicago. He often returned in North Dakota for publishing business deals and deer- and duck-hunting vacations.

In Chicago, he founded the Mutual Newspaper Publishing Company in 1886 which provided advertisements and articles to over 200 newspapers. In 1887, he established the weekly Saturday Blade, an illustrated newspaper aimed at rural audiences and sold by thousands of newsboys—an innovation at the time. By 1892, the Saturday Blade had the largest circulation of any weekly newspaper in the United States. Boyce's detailed reports of his foreign travels provided articles for the "Saturday Blade" and were reprinted in books by atlas/map publisher Rand McNally. The success of the Saturday Blade spawned the W. D. Boyce Publishing Company, which Boyce used to buy or start several newspapers and magazines. In 1892, Boyce bought out the "Chicago Ledger", a fiction weekly publication. In January 1903 he founded the international Boyce's Weekly, which advocated worker's rights. Boyce's prominence as a supporter of labor attracted labor/union leaders such as John Mitchell of the United Mine Workers and Henry Demarest Lloyd as writers and editors for Boyce's Weekly. Eight months later, Boyce's Weekly was consolidated with the Saturday Blade. Boyce also established the selected subject/topical newspapers Farm Business in 1914 and Home Folks Magazine in 1922. Dwindling sales led to the 1925 merger of the Blade and Ledger into the monthly Chicago Blade & Ledger, which was published until 1937. As Boyce's enterprises grew, he insisted on looking after the welfare of about 30,000 delivery boys, who were key to his financial success. Working with them may have helped him gain an understanding of America's youth. Boyce felt that delivering and selling newspapers taught a youth important responsibilities such as being polite, reading human nature, and handling money. Boyce's focused determination was evident in the advice he gave to young men: "There are many obstacles to overcome, but toil, grit and endurance will help you to overcome them all. Help yourself and others will help you." and "whatever trade you have selected; never swerve from that purpose a single moment until it is accomplished".

In 1891, Boyce began working on his own 12-story office building at 30 North Dearborn Street, known as the "Boyce Building", it was designed by architect Henry Ives Cobb. Even 20 years later, this building was recognized as the most expensive building (in terms of dollars per cubic foot) in Chicago. In 1907, Boyce consolidated his business operations into another office building, also known as the Boyce Building, at 500–510 North Dearborn Street. A new four-story office building—designed by the architectural firm of Daniel Burnham—was built on this location in 1912 and expanded during 1913–14 with an additional six stories. This building was later listed on the National Register of Historic Places on February 29, 1996, maintained by the United States Department of the Interior and its National Park Service.

At a time when women had trouble finding work and workers were often oppressed, Boyce felt their rights were important: his businesses employed many women and he supported labor unions. His newspapers often carried stories about the "nobility of labor". His businesses were able to pay out wages and benefits during the Panic of 1893, a time when many businesses were laying off workers and cutting wages. During the Pullman Strike of the Pullman Palace Car Company in 1894, which spread to 20 companies in over half the states, Boyce called Eugene V. Debs, the socialist labor national leader of the American Railway Union, a "great labor leader" and industrialist George Pullman, inventor of the railroad passenger and sleeping car, the man "who caused all the trouble" (the then-current labor and social/political strife of the 1890s). In 1901 when the Boyce Paper Manufacturing Company in Marseilles, Illinois, burned down, he paid the workers immediately and then hired them back as construction workers to rebuild the paper mill so they would not lose income. Yet, he was also protective of his money. In late 1894, when two of his workers were injured by a fallen smokestack and won $2,000 each in a court judgment, Boyce appealed the case all the way to the Supreme Court of Illinois, and lost. He was also persistent in getting what he wanted; in 1902, he sued the Marseilles Land and Power Company for not supplying enough water power to his mills and won a $65,300 judgment. By 1903, the Marseilles Land and Power Company fell into receivership and Boyce bought up the company.

Boyce hired his son, Ben, when he was 20 years old, giving him high-level positions in his water and power businesses in and around Marseilles and Ottawa. However, their relationship was often strained by Boyce's high expectations and Ben's carelessness with his funds in activities such as betting on horse races.

During June–August 1906, the government proposed quadrupling the postage rate for second-class mail, which included newspapers, from one cent to four cents per pound. In response, Boyce proposed buying the Post Office Department for $300 million (USD), claiming that he would reduce postal rates by half, eliminate chronic deficits by applying business methods to postal operations, establish a rural postal express, pay rent to the United States Department of the Treasury for postal buildings, and return profits over seven percent. This offer was rejected by the government, but it did halt their planned second-class postage rate increase.

Boyce was a multi-millionaire by the early 1900s and by 1909 became more interested in civic affairs and less in finance. He also began to travel, often as part of hunting expeditions. He leased hunting lodges at Fort Sisseton, South Dakota, where he had hunted as a young man. He often hosted friends and relatives, especially his son, for activities such as hunting, fishing, dinner, poker, and plentiful liquor. These changes may have been in part caused by the destruction of his Ottawa mansion by fire in early 1908, which was soon rebuilt, followed three months later by the sale of his Marseilles paper mill due to a new law that prevented railroads from negotiating with shippers, and his September 1908 announcement that he and his wife, Mary Jane, were separating.

In 1914 Boyce bought two more newspapers, the "Indianapolis Sun", which he renamed the "Indianapolis Daily Times", and the "Inter Ocean Farmer", which he renamed "The Farming Business". By 1920, the majority of Americans lived in cities instead of rural areas. Lone Scout, "Saturday Blade", and "Chicago Ledger" all focused on rural customers and began to falter. Boyce launched "Home Folks Magazine" in an attempt to regain customers. By June 1925, sales had slipped so much that he merged the latter two titles into the "Blade and Ledger", which caused sales to rise again. This encouraged Boyce to start "Movie Romances", one of the first tabloid magazines about movie star romances.

Boyce's success in the publishing business lay in his ability to organize the administration of a business and delegate details to subordinates. He eventually amassed a fortune of about US$20 million. Boyce's life paralleled Theodore Roosevelt's in many ways: Both men were products of the Progressive Era, internationally prominent, had concern for children, supported Scouting, were adventurers and outdoorsmen, (modern-day "environmentalists"), and were interested in civic reform. Although Boyce admired and sought to surpass Roosevelt, his only foray into politics was the 1896 Republican primary for a United States representative (congressman) in the U.S. House of Representatives – a bitterly fought campaign which he lost to first-term incumbent George E. Foss. In all likelihood, Boyce met Roosevelt at the Union League Club of Chicago, of which the former had become a member in 1891. His ambivalent attitude towards government was a common one of the general public during the Progressive Era. However, Boyce's Republican credentials and monetary contributions earned him an invitation to the presidential inauguration and ball of newly elected successor to "T.R.", the 27th President, William Howard Taft in March 1909.

Expeditions
Boyce financed an expedition of the explorer Frederick Schwatka to Alaska in 1896. Schwatka discovered gold near Nome and Boyce reported this success in his newspapers, which led him to finance other Schwatka expeditions as well as those of other adventurers, including a failed expedition to the Yukon River in 1898. Boyce soon began to carry out his own expeditions. When the United States entered the Spanish–American War in 1898, Boyce set sail for Cuban waters aboard the ship Three Friends. The nature of the activities of Boyce and this ship are unknown.

In March 1909, Boyce embarked on a two-month trip to Europe, which included a visit to his daughters, who were in Rome. On returning to America, Boyce organized a photographic expedition to Africa with the innovative aerial photographer George R. Lawrence. Boyce met with safari organizers and outfitters and provisioned his expedition in London and Naples. His son Benjamin and Lawrence's son Raymond were part of the expedition. Cartoonist John T. McCutcheon joined the expedition while they were sailing from Naples to Africa. The group disembarked at Mombasa, Kenya, and was in Nairobi by September. After hiring local porters and guides, the entire expedition totaled about 400 people, about three-fourths of whom were servants. It required 15 train cars to move the people and equipment to the area the expedition was going to explore near Kijabi and Lake Victoria. The expedition was a failure because a telephoto lens was neither brought nor subsequently procured, the hot air balloons were not suitable for the conditions on the plains of East Africa, and the cameras were so large and noisy to move into position that the animals were scared away. The members of the expedition had to resort to buying photographs of big game animals from shops in cities such as Nairobi. The expedition did manage to successfully hunt several species of big game animals.

In December 1910, Boyce led a nine-month, 50000 mi expedition to South America that was extensively reported in his newspapers. In late January 1915, Boyce sailed to England because of his concern over World War I. He received permission from the American Legation in Switzerland to travel into Germany and Austria for six weeks to report on the industrial and commercial effects of the war on those countries. He sent extensive reports to his newspapers and returned home around April–May.

In late 1922, Boyce departed on another expedition to Africa, this time for six months. Morocco reminded him of the Dakotas, Kansas, Texas, Florida, and Arizona. In Egypt he visited the tomb of Tutankhamun, which had been discovered just a few months earlier. His expedition then went to Luxor and sailed up the Nile River to Edfu, where the houses had no roofs and while he was there it rained and hailed for the first time in decades. Boyce stated that between his two expeditions to Africa, he had shot at least one of every game animal.

Scouting
As Boyce's interest in philanthropy grew, he turned to his childhood experiences in the outdoors as a resource, but could not find a way to channel his charitable ideas and dreams until a fateful stop to England while en route to what became the failed photographic expedition to Africa. Events in London on the way to and from this expedition would lead to the founding of the Boy Scouts of America (BSA), one of many civic and professional organizations formed during the Progressive Era to fill the void of citizens who had become distended from their rural roots. Many youth organizations such as the Woodcraft Indians and Sons of Daniel Boone formed in America in the early 1900s focusing on outdoor character-building activities. The writings and adventures of Theodore Roosevelt contributed to these movements, with their outdoor, nature, and pioneer themes. By the time of his 1922 expedition to Africa, Boyce was so well respected in Scouting that French Boy Scouts in Algeria saluted him and offered to escort him along a trail when they found out he was the founder of BSA and LSA in America.

Unknown Scout legend
According to legend, Boyce was lost on a foggy street in London in 1909 when an unknown Scout came to his aid, guiding him back to his destination. The boy then refused Boyce's tip, explaining that he was merely doing his duty as a Boy Scout. Boyce was so impressed by the boy's actions that it inspired him to bring Scouting to America. Soon thereafter, Boyce met with Robert Baden-Powell, who was the head of the Boy Scout Association at that time. Boyce returned to America, and, four months later, founded the Boy Scouts of America on February 8, 1910. He intended to base the program around American Indian lore. This version of the legend has been printed in numerous BSA handbooks and magazines. There are several variations of it, including ones that claim Boyce knew about Scouting before this encounter and that the Unknown Scout took him to Scout headquarters.

In actuality, Boyce stopped in London en route to a safari in British East Africa. It is true that an unknown Scout helped him and refused a tip. But this Scout only helped him cross a street; he did not take him to the Scout headquarters and Boyce never met Baden-Powell. Upon Boyce's request, the unknown Scout did give him the address of the Scout headquarters, where Boyce went and picked up a copy of Scouting For Boys and other printed material on Scouting. He read this while on safari and was so impressed that instead of making his return to America an around-the-world trip via San Francisco, he returned to the Scout headquarters in London. He volunteered to organize Scouting in America and was told that he could use their manual. While Boyce's original account does not mention fog, a 1928 account says there was fog. Climatologists report no fog on that day in London.

Boy Scouts of America

The Boy Scouts of America was incorporated on February 8, 1910, but it struggled from shortages of cash and leadership in the beginning. Boyce personally donated $1,000 a month to keep the organization running on the condition that boys of all races and creeds be included. He was not interested in directing the organization, and turned over the running of the organization to Edgar M. Robinson of the YMCA, who proceeded to recruit the permanent executive board of the BSA. The much-needed leadership and management arrived when the Sons of Daniel Boone and Woodcraft Indians merged with the BSA.

Boyce felt that Scouting's emphasis on outdoor activity was crucial in producing the type of leaders that America needed because youth reared in cities had too much done for them, whereas those from the country had to learn to do things for themselves. Scouting was focused on teaching self-reliance, citizenship, resourcefulness, patriotism, obedience, cheerfulness, courage, and courtesy in order "to make men".

Lone Scouts of America

Boyce clashed with James E. West, the BSA's Chief Scout Executive, over a program for boys who lived too far from town to join a troop. Boyce offered to publish a magazine for the BSA, as long as it was published in Chicago. The National Executive Board of the BSA turned this offer down and shortly thereafter Boyce ceased being active in administrative activities of the BSA, though he remained a staunch supporter of the program. As a result of this and his desire to serve boys who had limited opportunities as he himself did when he was young, Boyce started a new Scouting-related venture: the Lone Scouts of America (LSA) on January 9, 1915. Reliance on Native American themes gave LSA a distinct Native American flavor: Lone Scouts could form small groups known as "tribes", the tribe's treasurer was known as the "wampum-bearer", and LSA taught boys to respect the environment. Boyce's annual contribution to the LSA grew to $100,000. In both the BSA and the LSA, Boyce was a manager and had little direct contact with the Boy Scouts. Upon his return from reporting on World War I, Boyce immediately began expanding the LSA by starting Lone Scout magazine and hiring Frank Allan Morgan, a noted Chicago Scoutmaster, to lead the LSA. By November 1915, the LSA had over 30,000 members. Warren conferred upon Boyce the title Chief Totem. Youths could join the LSA simply by mailing in some coupons and five cents. By 1916, the BSA and the LSA were in direct competition for members. In the summer of 1917, during his annual Dakota hunt, the Gros Ventres Indian tribe made Boyce an honorary chief with the name "Big Cloud" during a three-day ceremony. With America at war, Boyce agreed to the creation of a Lone Scout uniform in late 1917. Though he had a uniform made for himself, he stipulated that no Lone Scout was required to purchase one.

Boyce felt that Lone Scout was the best magazine he had ever done. Lone Scout was so popular that it could not handle all the material that was submitted, so many local and regional Tribe Papers were started. By 1922, Boyce's newspaper business was suffering and Lone Scout was losing money—it switched from a weekly to a monthly. Boyce's racial prejudice was revealed when the racial tensions in Chicago increased in the 1920s. The LSA issued a formal proclamation in late 1920 that it would only accept whites and in 1922 changed the masthead of Lone Scout from "A Real Boys' Magazine" to "The White Boys Magazine".

The fortunes of the LSA had begun to decline by 1920 when Boyce hired the first professional editor for Lone Scout, George N. Madison. Madison discovered that the LSA's membership roster was wildly inaccurate: it was full of duplications and inactive members. The reported 490,000 Lone Scouts in 1922 was a vastly inflated number. Boyce finally accepted West's annual offer to merge with the BSA in April 1924, with the merger formalized on June 16, 1924. Some Lone Scouts did not transfer to the BSA, but the BSA continued Lone Scouting as a separate division for another decade, gradually losing its unique programs. Present day Lone Scouts use the standard Cub Scouting and Boy Scouting programs and activities, but are not part of a pack or troop on a regular basis because of factors such as distance, weather, time, disability or other difficulties.

Legacy

Benjamin Boyce died in 1928 of a heart embolism. His father did not arrive home until after his son's death. Boyce was so saddened over his son's death that his own health suffered. One of Boyce's last efforts was to publish his son's letters from his South Seas expeditions: Dear Dad Letters from New Guinea. Boyce died from bronchial pneumonia on June 11, 1929, in Chicago and was buried in his adopted hometown of Ottawa, Illinois, on June 13, 1929, in the Ottawa Avenue Cemetery, with West delivering the eulogy. Boy Scouts maintained an honor guard with an American flag in a heavy rainstorm in two-hour shifts at his Ottawa home and 32 Boy Scouts were chosen as honorary pallbearers. BSA officials sent his widow a telegram that said the entire American nation owed him a debt of gratitude. A statue that commemorates his contribution to the Boy Scouts of America was placed near his grave on June 21, 1941, which West dedicated.

Boyce was recognized with the Silver Buffalo Award in 1926, the first year it was awarded, for his efforts in starting the BSA. He was the third recipient, after Baden-Powell and the Unknown Scout. During the BSA's 50th anniversary in 1960, 15,000 Scouts and several of Boyce's descendants gathered in Ottawa for a Boyce Memorial weekend. Illinois governor William Stratton delivered the key address and Bridge Street was renamed Boyce Memorial Drive. In 1985, about 2,500 Scouts attended a 75th anniversary pilgrimage in Ottawa, attended by his last surviving child, Virginia, and the Union League of Chicago named Boyce its first Hall of Fame member. Boyce had been a member from 1891 until he died. On December 6, 1997, a Scouting museum opened in Ottawa. The W. D. Boyce Council of the BSA is named in his honor. A Pennsylvania State Historical Marker located on Boyce Campus of Community College of Allegheny County in Monroeville, Pennsylvania, recognizes his achievements to Scouting. Not far from the marker is a county park, Boyce Park, that was named for him. A medallion of Boyce is near the White House as part of The Extra Mile – Points of Light Volunteer Pathway. In 2005, the BSA introduced the William D. Boyce New Unit Organization Award, presented to the organizer of any new Scouting unit.

The Extra Mile National Monument in Washington, DC selected Boyce as one of its 37 honorees. The Extra Mile pays homage to Americans like Boyce who set their own self-interest aside to help others and successfully brought positive social change to the United States.

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Greenfield Park, Quebec

Greenfield Park is a former city in southwestern Quebec, Canada. It is currently a borough of the city of Longueuil. It covers an area of 4.78 km2, with a population of 16,733 at the 2016 census of Canada. Greenfield Park is the only borough of Longueuil that has an officially bilingual status. It is primarily a post-WWI suburban area. Like the other two boroughs, most of the buildings in Greenfield Park are single-family homes. Nearly all of the land in Greenfield Park is built on, making it Longueuil's most densely populated borough.

Greenfield Park is divided into two sections. The older section of the borough is to the west of Taschereau Boulevard near Saint-Lambert, LeMoyne and Brossard, while the newer section is to the east, near the Laflèche neighbourhood. Most of the Greenfield Park's businesses are located along Taschereau Boulevard, the south shore's most important commercial artery. The Charles LeMoyne Hospital, located on the Taschereau Boulevard, is the largest on the south shore.

History
Before becoming a town, the area known as Greenfield Park was land belonging to the Seigneury of Longueuil. It had been an agricultural area up until the end of the 19th century. Greenfield Park benefited from its proximity to neighbouring St. Lambert's rail line connected to the newly constructed Victoria Bridge, which was the only major rail link between Montreal and the South Shore. At the time, the bridge was the longest railway bridge in the world. Development had begun to spread into Greenfield Park, which merited the establishment of a town to provide services for the population.
 * Seigneury of Longueuil

Greenfield Park was named after the area's primary geographical features, which were in fact green fields and forests. The town was established on March 24, 1911. The original Charter of Greenfield Park gave reasoning for the town's creation: ''Whereas the rate-payers of the territory comprised in cadastral lots Nos. 225 to 244 of the parish of Longueuil have by a large majority in number and value represented that, in consequence of the rapid increase of population within the said territory being a suburb of the city of Montreal and in consequence of the necessity for local improvements similar to those of other suburbs of Montreal, it is necessary that the said territory be created into a separate municipality and they have prayed, that the general principles of the Cities and Towns' Act be applied to the said municipality and also that they be granted several powers similar to those of other suburbs of Montreal which are not contained in said act. . .'' With the creation of the town came to need to put infrastructure and services in place. The only way for citizens to reach nearby Montreal was by rail, through the Grand Trunk Railway or the Montreal and Southern Counties Railway. In 1913, Greenfield Park, along with neighbouring municipalities St. Lambert, Montreal South and Longueuil, built a shared sewer system and water filtration plant. The town also used artesian wells as a source for drinking water.
 * Town

During World War I, such a high percentage of Greenfield Parkers served in the Canadian forces that regular town meetings could not be held. Similarly, in World War II, Greenfield Park was the Canadian community that had one of the highest participation rate of military volunteers for its size. This fact was recognized by both Prime Minister William Lyon Mackenzie King and the Minister of National Defence, J.L. Ralston.
 * World War I and II

Following the war, returning veterans were able to purchase homes with financial assistance through a purchasing program put into place by the town.

In the early 1960s, Greenfield Park acquired 40 percent more land by annexing part of Saint-Hubert. This land was located on the opposite side of Taschereau, and A large amount of veterans housing was built on these lands, particularly along Bellevue Street North. During the early 60s, over 60% of the town's population traced their ancestry to the United Kingdom, roughly half of that number live in the town today.
 * Late 20th Century

Greenfield Park was a town until January 1, 2002, when it along with several other suburbs on Montreal's South Shore were merged into the amalgamated city of Longueuil. (On January 1, 2006, Boucherville, Brossard, Saint-Bruno-de-Montarville and Saint-Lambert were "demerged", or reconstituted.) Following these demergers, Greenfield Park became one of only three remaining boroughs of Longueuil, along with Saint-Hubert and Le Vieux-Longueuil.
 * Merger with Longueuil

Municipal
Greenfield Park is represented by one city councillor in Longueuil City Council and two borough councillors. The borough president is Sylvain Joly of Option Greenfield Park. As of the November 7, 2021 Longueuil municipal election (see 2021_Quebec_municipal_elections), the current borough council consists of the following councillors:

Greenfield Park's coat of arms is golden, with a sable reversed chevron. The chevron supports a sinople coloured tree. Below the chevron are two red roses. Above the shield is a crown, shaped like a wall with five turrets. The shield is surrounded by branches of maple. Below the shield the branches meet, tied with a red and black ribbon. The Greenfield Park motto, "Fortis Fortunam Superat," or "Fortune Favors the Brave," is attributed to Villar.
 * Coat of Arms

Federal and provincial
Greenfield Park is in the federal riding of Longueuil—Charles-LeMoyne and its Member of Parliament is Sherry Romanado (Liberal Party of Canada). It also belongs to the provincial riding of Laporte and its Member of the National Assembly is Nicole Ménard (Quebec Liberal Party).

Education
The Riverside School Board operates public schools.

The South Shore Protestant Regional School Board previously served the municipality.

Primary
 * Greenfield Park International/École Internationale de Greenfield Park
 * St-Jude Elementary
 * École Primaire Pierre Laporte

Secondary
 * Centennial Regional High School
 * École Secondaire Participative l'Agora
 * École Internationale Saint-Edmond

Adult Education
 * CEA des 16–18 ans

Attractions
There are nine parks in Greenfield Park: Fairfield Park, Iellamo Park, Jubilee Park, Empire Park, Regent Park, René-Veillet Park, Saint-Judes Park, Stephen-Olynyk Park and Watson Park. Empire Park hosts junior football and baseball teams. Cynthia Coull Arena hosts the local minor hockey association.

There are seven churches in Greenfield Park. There are two Roman Catholic churches, Saint Mary Church serves anglophones and Église Sainte-Marguerite-Bourgeoys serves francophones. There are four Protestantism churches, St. Paul's Anglican Church (Anglican), Greenfield Park United Church (United Church of Canada), Greenfield Park Baptist Church (Baptist), South Shore Community Church (Pentecostal). There is also a Latter-day Saint chapel where two wards (one for anglophones, one for francophones) meet.

Shopping centres are located on Taschereau Boulevard and include 5000 Taschereau (formerly Mail Carnaval), Place Greenfield Park and Les Galeries Taschereau.

Réseau de transport de Longueuil
Bus service in Greenfield Park is provided by the Réseau de transport de Longueuil.

Important roadways

 * Victoria Avenue
 * Churchill Boulevard
 * Taschereau Boulevard

Notable people

 * Paul Adey, international hockey player
 * Ian Boothby, comic book writer, comedian
 * Cynthia Coull, former Olympic figure skater
 * Sylvain Couturier, hockey player
 * Maxime Crépeau, soccer player
 * Steven Crowder, actor, right wing American political commentator was raised in Greenfield Park.
 * Elisha Cuthbert, actress
 * Garry Galley, former NHL player
 * Steve Green, professional baseball player
 * Émilie Heymans, Olympic diver
 * Connie Kaldor, Canadian folk singer/songwriter
 * Anthony Kavanagh, stand-up comic
 * Charline Labonte, hockey goaltender who won a gold medal for Canada at the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics.
 * Julie Masse, singer
 * Torrey Mitchell, NHL player
 * Isabelle Morneau, soccer player
 * Craig Norman, basketball coach
 * Nils Oliveto, actor/screenwriter
 * Kevin Parent, singer/songwriter
 * François-Philippe Champagne, politician and federal Minister of Innovation, Science and Industry since 2021
 * Stéphane Roy, electroacoustic music composer
 * Jerome Samson, NHL player
 * Myriane Samson, figure skater
 * Julie Snyder, television presenter
 * Tod Fennell, actor, voice actor
 * Wally Weir, former NHL player

title: Greenfield Park, Quebec