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Elstree

Elstree is a large village in the Hertsmere borough of Hertfordshire, England. It is about 15 mi northwest of central London on the former A5 road, that follows the course of Watling Street. In 2011, its population was 5,110. It forms part of the civil parish of Elstree and Borehamwood, originally known simply as Elstree.

The village often lends its shorter name to businesses and amenities in the adjacent town of Borehamwood, and the names of Elstree and Borehamwood are used interchangeably. Elstree is perhaps best known for multiple Elstree Film Studio complexes, where many films were made, including BBC Elstree Centre, where the TV soap opera EastEnders is shot. This production centre is actually in Borehamwood.

The local newspaper is the Borehamwood and Elstree Times. Together with Borehamwood, the village is twinned with Offenburg in Germany, Fontenay-aux-Roses in France, and Huainan in China.

Elstree and Borehamwood railway station
Elstree & Borehamwood railway station is on the Midland Main Line between London St Pancras and Bedford. It was built by the Midland Railway in 1868, and is located just north of the 1072 yd Elstree Tunnels.

The area of Borehamwood to the west of the railway line, formally Deacon's Hill, is colloquially called Elstree even though it is not contiguous with the village. Elstree South Underground station was due to be an extension of the Northern line, planned in the 1930s, but never completed.

Road links
The old A5 road (Watling Street) goes through Elstree village, where it is designated as the A5183 road. Through the village, the road is called (from south to north) Elstree Hill South, High Street and Elstree Hill North. The 18th century Grade II listed building, Elstree Hill House, is still on Elstree Hill South, and used to be the home of the old Elstree School (see Schools). In the early 1900s, it was noted that:
 * ".. the hill roads are remarkably direct and seldom curve to avoid the steep pitch, and it has been suggested that the roads were originally slides for the timber which used to be sent to London for fuel."

Elstree Aerodrome
Elstree Aerodrome is licensed by the CAA and has a 2150 ft paved runway, suitable most for light aircraft and turbine powered G A aircraft. It also is one of the main helicopter centres for north London and is extending its provision in this area. In the early 1930s it was a grass landing strip for the local Aldenham House country club. A concrete runway was put down during World War II, and Wellington Bombers were modified here. After World War II the airfield was initially used to fly in converted Halifaxes stacked with food supplies to supplement the depleted British stocks; however, after an overloaded plane damaged the runway it was no longer used for this purpose.

On 29 November 1975, retired Formula One race car driver and Embassy Hill car owner Graham Hill and his racing driver Tony Brise were piloting a twin-engine six-seat Piper PA-23-250 Aztec (N6645Y) from France to London with four additional team members aboard. All six were killed when it crashed and burned in heavy fog on Arkley Golf Course, 3 mi short of the runway.

London Transport works
London Transport's Aldenham Works was sited on the edge of Elstree close to the A41; it was opened in 1956, closed in 1986, and demolished in 1996. It is now a large business park.

Elstree Grange
Originally a 19th-century steam ship owned by the Houlder Brothers, the town also lends its name to a series of ships called the Elstree Grange (rebuilt 1916, 1944, 1979), at one time sunk during the Second World War.

Grade II listed buildings
Elstree is home to a number of Grade II listed buildings, including some at Grade II* (particularly important buildings), such as:
 * Holly Bush public house (15th century)
 * Aldenham House and stable block (c.1672)
 * The Leys, built in 1901 by Scottish architect and designer, George Henry Walton.

The Manor hotel
The Manor hotel, formerly known as the Edgwarebury Hotel, is located on Barnet Lane. The Tudor-style building dates back to 1540, was converted into a hotel in the 1960s, and has featured in many TV and film productions, such as the 1968 Hammer Horror classic, The Devil Rides Out. Notable guests have included Peter Sellers, Tom Cruise, John Cleese and Stanley Kubrick. It was the country home of armaments manufacturer and First Baronet Sir (Arthur) Trevor Dawson, (1866–1931).

Other buildings
A house in Elstree designed by architect Edward John May (1853–1941) was exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1887. St Nicholas Parish Church was designed by English architect Philip Charles Hardwick.

Schools
Elstree is home to Aldenham School, and Haberdashers' Boys' School, both independent public schools (ie. fee-paying), Haberdashers' School for Girls, and St Nicholas Church of England V.A Primary School.

Just outside of Elstree, in the neighbouring town of Borehamwood, are lots of schools. There is Hertswood Academy, Elstree Screen Arts Academy – the vocational school linked with Elstree Studios.

There is also a Jewish high school called Yavneh College, Borehamwood. Yavneh was set up in 2013 by Dr Dena Coleman, ex-headteacher of Hasmonean High School. Dr Coleman was also a board-member of the Jewish National Fund. Just before her retirement in 2013, Dr Coleman died of Meningitis. Now, Yavneh College is headed up by Mr Spencer Lewis, ex-head teacher of King Solomon High School. Recently, the Yavneh Schools governors opened a primary school on the Hillside Avenue campuses.

Earlier schools
Since the 1780s, a private school has been located in Elstree.

Elstree School, a boys' preparatory school, was located in Elstree from 1848 until 1938 before moving to Woolhampton, Berkshire before the outbreak of the Second World War.

Hillside School was located in Elstree between 1874 and 1886, before eventually becoming Dorset House School in 1905, (not to be confused with Hillside School in nearby Borehamwood.)

Sport
Elstree Cricket Club was formed in 1878, but no longer play in the Herts Saracens League. 18-hole Radlett Park Golf Club was founded in 1984, having recently being renamed from Elstree Golf & Country Club. It is closer to Elstree than Radlett.

Hatch End Cricket Club also play in Elstree. They participate in the Herts Saracens League.

Leisure
Section 15 of the London Outer Orbital Path (London Loop) goes through Elstree, before continuing as Section 16, a 10-mile (16 km) walk from Elstree to Cockfosters.

Synagogues
Elstree was home to Ohr Yisrael Synagogue, an Orthodox synagogue with affiliation to the Federation of Synagogues. However, the synagogue's present location is just within Borehamwood. The village currently sports two synagogues: The Shtiebel, an ultra-orthodox synagogue, and The Liberal Synagogue Elstree, just south of St. Nicholas' Church. According to census data, Elstree's population, including the Deacon's Hill area, was 36.0% Jewish, making it the only settlement with a Jewish plurality in the UK (the Christian population comprised 32.4% of the population). There is also 2 United Synagogue shuls in the area. One is on Croxdale road and the other is at Yavneh College, Borehamwood.

Parks

Aldenham Country Park is both a recreational facility and a breeding centre for rare livestock. Section 15 of the London Loop walk passes by. In 1873 nearby Tykes Water stream was dammed to create Tykes Water lake. Tykes Water Bridge features in the open credits to the Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee film, Dracula A.D. 1972, and used in several episodes of the Diana Rigg and Linda Thorson seasons of The Avengers, including the final Thorson opening titles. It also features in the film Mosquito Squadron.

Elstree Reservoir
The dam was built in 1795 by French prisoners of war. English watercolour landscape painter John Hassell writes:
 * "At the top of Stanmore Hill we enter on Bushy Heath, and at some distance on the right in the valley catch a view of the celebrated reservoir, the property of the Grand Junction Company, on Aidenham Common, at the foot of the village of Elstree. This noble sheet of water occupies a space of considerable extent on the verge of Aidenham Common, which thirty years ago was a barren waste; here the improvements in agriculture are indeed conspicuous, for at this place a poor, sandy, meagre, wretched soil has now by good husbandry been converted into rich pasturage.
 * "The reservoir has all the appearance of a lake; and when the timber that surrounds it shall have arrived at maturity, it will be a most delightful spot. From this immense sheet of water, in event of drought or a deficiency of upland waters, the lower parts of the Grand Junction and the Paddington Canals can have an immediate supply. The feeder from this reservoir enters the main stream near Rickmansworth, above Batchworth Mills, and supplies the millers' below with 300 locks of water, to whose interest the Duke of Northumberland is a perpetual trustee."

In 1886, the Photographic Society of Great Britain featured an exhibition of photos of Elstree Reservoir by Edgar Clifton. During World War I, then Major Keith Caldwell with No. 74 Squadron RAF, used Elstree Reservoir for target practice. In 1918, one of the pilots accidentally killed a local resident when his machine gun misfired.

Etymology
The name "Elstree" derives from the Anglo-Saxon phrase for "Tidwulf's Tree", which is mentioned as "Tidulfres treow"  in an 11–12th-century manuscript of an A.D. 786 charter. It is thought that "the "T" [was] lost in the wrong division of ' aet Tidwulfes treo ' ("at Tidwulf's Tree")."

A reference to a place in Hertford as "Ilestre" in 1460 may also be a variation.

In 1723, topographer John Norden noted in his book Speculum Britanniae, that in the county of Hartfordshire [sic] was one "Elstre or Eglestre". In an earlier edition, he writes:
 * "ELSTREE n. 20. in OFFAES grant EAGLESTRE
 * Nemus aquilinum: a place wherit may be thought Eagles bredd in time past, for though it be nowe hilly and heathy – it hath beene replenished with stately trees, fit for such fowle to breede and harbour in. It is parcell of the libertie of S. Albans.

Nemus aquilinum is the Latin for "grove of eagles".

Robinson Crusoe author, Daniel Defoe wrote in his 1748 travel guide that:
 * "Idlestrey or Elstre, is a Village on the Roman Watling-street, on the very Edge of Middlesex; but it is chiefly noted for its Situation, near Brockly-hill, by Stanmore, which affords a lovely View cross Middlesex, over the Thames, into Surry."

In 1811, topographer Daniel Lysons writes:
 * "The name of this place has been variously written; — Eaglestree, Elstree, Ilstrye, Idlestrye, etc. Norden says that it is called, in Offa's grant to the Abbey of St. Alban's, Eaglestree, that is, says he, "Nemus aquilinum, a 'place where it may be thought that eagles bred in time past'." It has been derived also from Idel-street, i.e. the noble road; and Ill-street, the decayed road. May it not have been, rather, a corruption of Eald-street, the old road, i.e. the ancient Watling-street, upon which it is situated?"

5th century: Battle of Ailestreu (Elstree)
In the 5th century, British warlord Vortigern and his two sons, Vortimer and Catigern, took part in the Battle of Elstree, then called the Battle of Ailestreu, where the Saxon Horsa was killed. It's possible there is confusion with the Battle of Aylesbury. George Moberly writes:

 * "Nennius, MHB p. 69, calls the place of battle where Hors fell Episford; Britannicè 'Sathenegabail' = the Saxon battle. The Saxon Chronicle, ad a. 455, calls it Ægæles-threp, and Henry of Huntingdon, M.H.B. p. 708, Ailestreu. This would naturally be Elstree, of which name there is a place in Herts; but Beda's description of its situation has caused it rather to be referred to Aylesford in Kent, near which is a small village called Horsted."

16th–18th centuries
The Manor of Elstree was formerly included in the Manor of Parkbury, and belonged to the Abbey of St. Albans. On the Dissolution of the Monasteries, it was granted by Henry VIII, to Anthony Denny (1501–1549).

In 1607, Anthony Denny's grandson Edward Denny sold part of the estate, with all manorial rights, to Robert Briscoe, who sold it the same year to Sir Baptist Hicks. Part of the estate became the Manor of Boreham, and was sold to Edward Beauchamp. It remained with the Beauchamp-Proctor family until 1748, when it was sold to James West, M.P. for St. Albans, who, in or about 1751, alienated it to a Mr Gulston of Widdial. Gulston then sold it to a Mr Pigfatt, a gunsmith, who, within a few years, conveyed it to Thomas Jemmet. In 1774 it was purchased from Mr Jemmet by the late George Byng, M.P. for Middlesex, who passed it on to his son, by which time the estate was called the Manor of Boreham.

In 1776, the House of Lords granted:
 * "An Act for dividing and closing the Common or Waste Ground, called Boreham Wood Common, in the Parish of Elstree otherwise Idletree, in the County of Hertford."

In 1796 topographer Daniel Lysons writes:
 * "The parish of Elstree contains about 3,000 acres of land, which is divided between arable and pasture nearly in an equal proportion. The soil is, for the most part, clay. Boreham Wood, a waste of nearly 700 acres, was inclosed about the year 1778, and is now in culture. This parish pays the sum of £151 11s 0d to the land-tax, which is raised by a rate of about 1s 9d in the pound".

Martha Ray murder
In 1779, Martha Ray (c. 1742–1779), singer and mistress of John Montagu, 4th Earl of Sandwich, was buried in the parish church (illustrated, right) after she had been shot dead by the Rev. James Hackman, Rector of Wiveton in Norfolk.

The Elstree murder of William Weare
In 1823 Elstree became notorious for the Elstree murder of William Weare, killed in Radlett and the body disposed of in a pond in Elstree by John Thurtell. The incident was recalled by Charles Dickens in his Weekly Journal. An inquest of the deceased was held on 31 October by county coroner Benjamin Rooke at the local Artichoke public house. He was likewise buried (funeral depicted) at the Parish Church.

The Elstree murder of Eliza Ebborn
On 17 August 1882, Eliza Ebborn of Watford was murdered by 24-year-old shoemaker George Stratton, who was subsequently sentenced to death. She was buried at Elstree Parish Church.

Administrative districts
Elstree used to be divided between the counties of Hertfordshire and Middlesex. The north part (which included the parish of Elstree) lay in the Hundred of Cashio, also known as the Liberty of St Albans, while the south part lay in the Hundred of Gore. The county boundary ran along the road from Watford to Barnet, now called Barnet Lane.

Elstree Rural District
From 1941 to 1974, Elstree Rural District was the local government area, before being abolished and merged with Hertsmere. On 20 March 1957, Armorial Bearings were granted. The arms and crest are described as follows:
 * The background of royal ermine, represents the royal visits to and associations with the district, principally the visit of Henry VIII and his court to Tyttenhanger in 1525 to avoid the "sweatinge sicknesse" and the visits of Charles II to Salisbury Hall in Shenley. The oak tree with the Saxon crown represents Saxon Elstree – "Tidwulf's tree" – around which the district has grown. The tree also represents Boreham Wood and the district's woodlands, the gold acorns symbolize growth and prosperity. The waves at the base represent the River Colne, Aldenham Reservoir and link with the waves in the arms of the Hertfordshire CC and the Greater London Council.The gold saltire on blue is from the arms of the Abbey of St. Albans, the manor of Elstree came into the possession of the Abbey in 1188, and Tyttenhanger in Ridge stands on the site of a former possession of the Abbey, and the whole area lies in the Liberty of St. Albans. The scallop shells, the badge of pilgrims, recalls their passage along Watling Street through Elstree to St. Albans.
 * The hart is from one of the supporters of the County Council arms, wearing a mural crown, symbol of civic government. The spool of film (unique in civic heraldry) recalls the industry which had made the name of Elstree and Boreham Wood so widely known in modern times.
 * The motto is taken from the wall of Shenley Cage, and also links with the County motto "Trust and fear not". "

Clubs, societies and organisations

 * Elstree And Boreham Wood History Society, (inc. Elstree and Borehamwood Museum)
 * Elstree, Borehamwood & Radlett mencap Society.
 * Elstree Golf & Country Club.

References in the media

 * Elstree is replicated as a part of one of three maps is based in the game Urban Dead. The "Borehamwood" map was released as part of the promotional campaign for the release of British writer Charlie Brooker's Dead Set.
 * "Elstree" is also the title of a song about the film studio by the Buggles on their 1979 album The Age of Plastic.
 * St. Nicholas Church, Elstree featured in an investigation of paranormal investigation.

Notable residents

 * John Baxter (1896–1975), film director and producer, lived at Aldahvu, Elstree
 * Ephraim Beauchamp (d.1728) Baronet and lord of the Manor of Boreham in the parish of Elstree.
 * Gerry Blattner (1913–1992 approx.), film producer and studio executive, lived at The Chantry, Barnet Lane, Elstree in the 1960s.
 * Ludwig Blattner (1881–1935), film producer and studio owner, lived in Elstree from about 1928 until his suicide at Elstree Golf & Country Club.
 * John Boyle (1563–1620), Church of Ireland Bishop of Cork, Rector of Elstree (before 1610).
 * Ralph Terence St John-Brooks (1884–1963), bacteriologist, was stationed at the Lister Institute's National Collection of Type Cultures.
 * Francis Burton M.D. (d.1828), uncle of Richard Francis Burton, military surgeon who made Napoleon's Death Mask, lived at Barham House, and is buried in Elstree parish church.
 * Richard Francis Burton (1821–1890), explorer who lived at Barham House in Elstree when he was a child.
 * George Byng, Esq. M.P. for Middlesex, resident of Elstree Manor.
 * Rev. Philip Caraman (1911–1998), Jesuit, lived at The Grange on the corner of Allum Lane and Deacons Hill Road.
 * Hussein Chalayan, fashion designer was brought up in The Rise
 * Tom Chatto (1920–1982) – actor, brought up in Elstree
 * Dame Harriette Chick (1875–1977), nutritionist, tested and bottled tetanus antitoxin for the army in 1915.
 * Muzio Clementi (1752-1832), pianist, composer and businessman. He resided in Elstree from 1823 to 1828.
 * Joan Collins, actress and author, lived in Barnet Lane, while married to Anthony Newley, Singer, actor and film composer
 * Samuel Tertius Cowan (1905–1976), bacteriologist, curator of the National Collection of Type Cultures (NCTC) at the Lister Institute.
 * Simon Cowell, the American Idol and X Factor judge, was brought up in Elstree.
 * Sir (Arthur) Trevor Dawson, first baronet (1866–1931), armaments manufacturer, lived at Edgewarebury House.
 * Colonel John Drinkwater, the historian of the Siege of Gibraltar, had his family seat at Palmer's Lodge, (now called Radnor Hall)
 * Anthony Denny, Esq (1501–1549), resident of the Manor of Elstree.
 * Sir Edward Denny (1796–1889) composer, resident of Manor of Elstree.
 * James Elphinston (1721–1809) Scottish educator, moved to Elstree in 1792.
 * Percy Everett (1870–1952), became the first Scoutmaster of the 1st Elstree Scout group on 13 March 1908, was Deputy Chief Scout for Great Britain, lived at Schopwick Place in Elstree.
 * Andrew Feldman (b. 1966) Conservative politician appointed to the Lords is known as Baron Feldman of Elstree.
 * Cecil Ford (1913–1994) cricketer, was born in Elstree.
 * Vicary Gibbs (1853–1932), genealogist and gardener, lived at Aldenham House.
 * Lew Grade (1906–1998) TV producer given a life peerage, was known as Baron Grade, of Elstree.
 * Thomas Greenwood (1851–1908), public libraries promoter, died at Frith Knowl, Elstree.
 * James Hackman (1752–1779), murderer of Martha Ray, was buried in Elstree Parish Church.
 * Sir Harry Hague (1881–1960), managing director of A. Wander Ltd, the company who made Ovaltine, lived at The Chantry, Barnet Lane, Elstree.
 * David Willis Wilson Henderson (1903–1968), immunologist, worked at the Lister Institute.
 * Thomas Knox, 2nd Earl of Ranfurly M.P. (1786–1858) Member of Parliament (1820–1832) resided at Barham House, Elstree.
 * Stanley Kubrick (1928-1999). film director. Lived on Barnet Lane.
 * Sir John Charles Grant Ledingham (1875–1944), bacteriologist, worked at the Lister Institute.
 * Paul Lester, music journalist.
 * Ian Livingston, chief executive officer of BT Group
 * William Macready (1793–1873), actor, lived at Elm Place, Elstree.
 * John Henry Marks (b. 1925) General Practitioner and Chairman of the British Medical Association, lived on Barnet Lane.
 * Archer John Porter Martin (1910–2002), Nobel Prize winning biochemist, worked at the Lister Institute, and lived at Abbotsbury on Barnet Lane.
 * Walter Thomas James Morgan (1900–2003), biochemist. worked at the Lister Institute.
 * Air Vice-Marshal Sir David Munro, K.C.B., C.I.E., LL.D., M.B., F.R.C.S.Ed. (1878–1952)
 * Anna Neagle and her film director husband Herbert Wilcox lived at the junction of Deacons Hill Road and Barnet Lane, during her years as a film star.
 * Richard Tauber, tenor, and his actress-wife Diana Napier lived at the Villa Capri from 1936 to 1940. It was later demolished to form a new residential development, called 'Tauber Close'.
 * Frank Podmore (1856–1910) author and founding member of the Fabian Society was born in Elstree.
 * Martha Ray (c.1742–1779), singer murdered by James Hackman buried in Elstree Parish Church.
 * Horatio Sharpe (1718–1790), army officer and Proprietary Governor of Maryland, buried at Elstree Parish Church.
 * Winston Smith, spaniel dog breeder.
 * Henry Hurd Swinnerton (1875–1966), zoologist and geologist, lived and died at the Headmaster's House, Haberdashers' Aske's School.
 * James Booker Blakemore Wellington (1858–1939) photographer, died in Elstree in 1939.
 * James West, Esq. M.P. for St. Alban's, resident of Elstree Manor.
 * Jeremiah White (1629–1707), nonconformist minister, preached at Elstree in 1669.

Books

 * Richard Riding and Grant Peerless, Elstree Aerodrome: The Past in Pictures, The History Press Ltd (26 November 2003), ISBN 0-7509-3412-3, ISBN 978-0-7509-3412-1, 192 pages.
 * Robert Bard, Elstree and Borehamwood Past, Publisher: Phillimore & Company, Limited, 2006, ISBN 1-905286-11-2, ISBN 978-1-905286-11-9, 128 pages
 * Stephen A. Castle, William Brooks, The Book of Elstree & Boreham Wood, Publisher: Barracuda Press, 1988, ISBN 0-86023-406-1, ISBN 978-0-86023-406-7, 136 pages
 * G. R. T. Eales, A Lecture on the history of Elstree, Publisher: Scott, Greenwood & Son, 1922
 * Anthony Frewin, John Mansbridge, Elstree & Boreham Wood through two thousand years, Publisher: Ann and Lionel Leventhal, 1974, ISBN 0-9503822-0-5, ISBN 978-0-9503822-0-3, 47 pages.
 * Paul Welsh, Elstree and Borehamwood in Old Picture Postcards, ISBN 90-288-3013-8, ISBN 978-90-288-3013-4, 80 pages.
 * J. Roy Avery, The Elstree murder, Publisher: Haberdasher's Aske's School, 1963, 19 pages.
 * Thomas Burke, Murder at Elstree: or, Mr. Thurtell and his gig, Publisher: Longmans, Green and co., 1936, 177 pages
 * Elstree Rural District: official guide, Forward Publicity Limited, Edition	9, illustrated, Publisher: Home Pub., 1972. ISBN 0-7174-0233-9, ISBN 978-0-7174-0233-5. 72 pages.
 * William Hawtayne, A sermon preach'd at Elstree in Hertfordshire, on the twentieth of January 1714. Mr. Hawtayne's thanksgiving-sermon on 20 January 1714. Printed for Tim Goodwin. 20 pages.
 * Franklyn de Winton Lushington, Sermons to young boys delivered at Elstree school, Publ. 1898. Republished Kessinger Publishing LLC 2010. ISBN 1-166-95208-8, ISBN 978-1-166-95208-2.
 * The first register book of the parish church of Elstree, 1655–1757, Translated by	Arthur R. T. Eales, publisher: pr.by Coombes, 1914, 76 pages.
 * I. C. M. Sanderson, A history of Elstree School and three generations of the Sanderson family, Publisher Elstree School, 1978.
 * John Hill, Hertfordshire Militia Lists: Elstree & Shenley, Issue ML 102 of Militia Series, Publ. Hertfordshire Family & Population History Society, 2000, ISBN 1-903245-06-0, ISBN 978-1-903245-06-4, 13 pages
 * An Illustrated Guide to the Elstree Country Club, Elstree, Herts, publ. Elstree Country Club, 1950, 12 pages. (at the British Library). Retrieved 22 September 2011.

Journals

 * "Medieval Pottery From Elstree, Otterspool & Prehsi", Academic Journal Offprint From St. Albans Architectural And Archaeological Society Transactions (1961)
 * Renn, Derek F, "Further finds of medieval pottery from Elstree: with a survey of unglazed thumb-pressed jugs", Hertfordshire Archaeology 1968, pp. 124–7
 * Stephen Castle and Michael Hammerons, "Excavations Elstree, Middlesex, 1974-6". At Archaeology Data Service Website. Retrieved 22 September 2011

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Rick Carlisle

Richard Preston Carlisle (born October 27, 1959) is an American basketball coach and former player who is the head coach for the Indiana Pacers of the National Basketball Association (NBA). He has previously served as head coach of the Detroit Pistons and Dallas Mavericks of the National Basketball Association (NBA). As a player, Carlisle played for the Boston Celtics, New York Knicks, and New Jersey Nets. He is one of only 11 people to win an NBA championship as both a player and a coach.

Playing career
Carlisle was raised in Lisbon, New York. He attended Lisbon Central High School, then spent a year at Worcester Academy. Carlisle played two years of college basketball at the University of Maine from 1979 to 1981, before transferring to the University of Virginia. He was a starter for the 1982–83 Virginia Cavaliers team that featured the three-time college player of the year Ralph Sampson. UVA was the number one ranked team in the country prior to being defeated by Chaminade on December 23, 1982. In the 1983 NCAA tournament, UVA was the number one seed in the West and made it to the Elite Eight before losing to eventual NCAA national champion North Carolina State. Carlisle was the co-captain on the 1983–84 Cavaliers team and helped lead them to the Final Four where they lost 49–47 in overtime to the Houston Cougars team led by Hakeem Olajuwon. Carlisle averaged 12.5 points and 3.3 rebounds per game during his college career.

NBA
After graduating in 1984, Carlisle was selected 70th overall by the Boston Celtics in the 1984 NBA draft, where he played alongside Larry Bird. Under Celtics' coach K. C. Jones, Carlisle won the NBA championship in 1986 and lost in the finals in 1985 and 1987. In the 1986 NBA finals series, in limited playing time, Carlisle made every shot he took (3 for 3).

In a limited reserve role from 1984 to 1987, Carlisle averaged 2.2 points, 1.0 assists and 0.8 rebounds per game. He then played for the Albany Patroons of the Continental Basketball Association (CBA) under Bill Musselman. Carlisle then signed as a free agent with the New York Knicks, where he played under coach Rick Pitino alongside emerging star Patrick Ewing. In 1989, Carlisle played in five games with the New Jersey Nets under Bill Fitch.

Coaching career
Later in 1989, Carlisle accepted an assistant coaching position with the Nets, where he spent five seasons under Bill Fitch and Chuck Daly. In 1994, Carlisle joined the assistant coaching staff with the Portland Trail Blazers under coach P. J. Carlesimo, where he spent three seasons.

In 1997, Carlisle joined the Indiana Pacers organization as an assistant coach under former teammate Larry Bird. During his time as Pacers assistant coach, Carlisle helped the Pacers to two of their best seasons ever. First, in 1997–98, the Pacers stretched the Chicago Bulls to the limit, narrowly losing the deciding seventh game of the Eastern Conference Finals to the eventual NBA champion. Then, in 1999–2000 season, the Pacers made the NBA Finals for the first time, ultimately losing to the Los Angeles Lakers. Bird stepped down as coach and pushed for Carlisle to be selected as his replacement, but Pacers' team president Donnie Walsh gave the job to Isiah Thomas.

Detroit Pistons (2001–2003)
For the 2001–02 season, Carlisle was hired by the Detroit Pistons to be their new head coach. In two seasons as head coach, he led the team to consecutive 50–32 records (.610) with Central Division titles and playoff appearances. Carlisle was named Coach of the Year in 2002. However, the Pistons fired Carlisle after the 2002–03 season with a year remaining on his contract and hired Larry Brown. Friction between Carlisle and team ownership was cited as one of the primary reasons for the firing. Carlisle's Pistons had just dispatched Brown's Philadelphia 76ers in the Conference Semifinals before being swept by the New Jersey Nets in the Eastern Conference finals.

Indiana Pacers (2003–2007)
For the 2003–04 season, Carlisle returned to the Pacers as head coach to replace Isiah Thomas, who had been fired almost immediately after Larry Bird was brought back as the new President of Basketball Operations. In his first season, Carlisle led the Pacers to the Central Division title and NBA's best regular-season record at 61–21 (74.4%), setting a franchise record for wins (both in the NBA and ABA). In the playoffs, the team eliminated the Boston Celtics and Miami Heat before losing to the Detroit Pistons in the Eastern Conference finals. That year, Carlisle coached the East All-Stars at the All-Star Game.

In 2005, the Pacers roster was decimated by injuries, most notably, those of Jermaine O'Neal, Stephen Jackson and Jamaal Tinsley, and suspensions from the Pacers–Pistons brawl at The Palace of Auburn Hills, which resulted in Ron Artest being suspended for the rest of the season, Jackson being suspended for 30 games, and O'Neal being suspended for 15 games. The Pacers still made the NBA playoffs that season. As the sixth seed, they again defeated the Boston Celtics in the first round before being defeated again by the eventual Eastern Conference champion, the Detroit Pistons.

The Pacers slipped to a .500 record in 2005–06 and barely made the playoffs, losing in the first round. Despite this, Bird and Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh did not hold Carlisle responsible for the Pacers' lackluster performances in the past two seasons, signing him to a multiyear contract extension and giving him the title of executive vice president of basketball operations.

After the Pacers finished the 2006–07 season with a 35–47 record, missing the playoffs for the first time since 1997, Bird fired Carlisle. Carlisle understood the decision, saying that the Pacers needed "a new voice." In four seasons with the Pacers, he compiled a 181–147 record. The Pacers offered to let Carlisle stay on in the front office, but Carlisle also resigned that post on June 12, 2007.

After leaving Indiana, Carlisle worked as a studio analyst for ESPN before signing with the Dallas Mavericks as the team's new head coach.

2008–2018: Dirk Nowitzki era
On May 9, 2008, Carlisle signed a four-year deal with the Dallas Mavericks, replacing Avery Johnson.

In the regular season, the Mavericks finished with a record of 50–32. In the playoffs, the team pulled off a first round upset win against the San Antonio Spurs, then lost to the Denver Nuggets 1–4 in the Western Conference semifinals.

The next year, Carlisle coached the Mavericks to a 55–27 record, first in Southwest Division and second in the Western Conference, but lost in the first round to the Spurs in the 2010 NBA playoffs.

2010–11 season: NBA championship
The 2010–11 season was Carlisle's most successful as a head coach. To strengthen the team, Dallas acquired Tyson Chandler, Peja Stojaković, Corey Brewer, and Ian Mahinmi. An existing core of Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Shawn Marion, Caron Butler, and Jason Kidd, the team had clear championship aspirations. To start the season, Dallas won 16 of its first 20 games in a competitive Western Conference. They finished the regular season with a 57–25 record.

In the first round, the Mavericks beat the Portland Trail Blazers four games to two. On May 8, 2011, they swept the two-time defending champion Los Angeles Lakers in the Western Conference semifinals. On May 25, 2011, the Mavericks got a 4–1 series win over the Oklahoma City Thunder in the Western Conference Finals. This marked Carlisle's first Conference Finals victory of his coaching career, leading to his first NBA Finals appearance.

In the 2011 NBA Finals, Carlisle coached the Mavericks to a 4–2 series victory over the Miami Heat for the franchise's first championship.

2012–2018: Post–championship success
In the 2012 playoffs, the Mavericks were swept by the Thunder in the first round. On May 15, 2012, Carlisle agreed to a new four-year deal with the Mavericks.

In 2013, the Mavericks finished 41–41 and missed the playoffs for the first time since 2000.

In 2014, Carlisle led the Mavericks back to the playoffs as the eighth seed with a 49–33 record where they would meet the San Antonio Spurs in the first round. The Mavericks lost in seven games and the Spurs went on to win the 2014 NBA Finals.

In 2015, the Mavericks finished 50–32, but were defeated in five games by the Houston Rockets in the first round.

On January 30, 2015, Carlisle recorded his 600th win in a game against the Miami Heat. On November 1, 2015, Carlisle recorded his 340th win as Mavericks coach, passing Don Nelson as the winningest coach in franchise history. Four days later, Carlisle signed a new five-year deal with Dallas on November 5, 2015.

In 2016, the Mavericks finished sixth in the Western Conference, but were defeated in five games by the Oklahoma City Thunder.

On December 2, 2017, Carlisle recorded his 700th win in a game against the Los Angeles Clippers.

2018–2021: Luka Dončić era
During the 2018 NBA draft, the Mavericks traded for Luka Dončić and drafted a second round standout Jalen Brunson. In 2019, the team acquired Tim Hardaway Jr. and Kristaps Porziņģis. In 2020, the Mavericks made the playoffs for the first time in three years as the 7th seed in the conference, losing in six games to the Los Angeles Clippers.

On January 13, 2021, Carlisle recorded his 800th win in a game against the Charlotte Hornets.

In 2021, the Mavericks made the playoffs for the second consecutive year, again set to play the Los Angeles Clippers. This year, the Mavericks entered as the 5th seed in the Western Conference and as Division Champions but lost in seven games to the Clippers.

On June 17, 2021, Carlisle stepped down as the Mavericks' head coach with two years remaining on his contract.

Return to Indiana (2021–present)
On June 24, 2021, Carlisle was hired as the head coach of the Indiana Pacers, returning to the franchise for a second stint. His contract was a reported $29 million over four years.

Upon Carlisle's arrival in Indiana, the team began a rebuilding process, departing from core players Domantas Sabonis, Malcolm Brogdon, Caris LeVert, T.J. Warren, Jeremy Lamb, Justin Holiday, and Torrey Craig. During this period, the Pacers received young rising superstar Tyrese Haliburton, who Carlisle referred to as "an elite young point guard that affects the game positively in many, many ways." The Pacers also acquired Obi Toppin, Jalen Smith, Aaron Nesmith and Jordan Nwora all from the 2020 NBA draft. In addition, the team acquired multiple first–round draft picks, sharpshooter Buddy Hield, Daniel Theis, and Tristan Thompson. With their numerous draft picks, the team selected Bennedict Mathurin, Jarace Walker, Andrew Nembhard, Chris Duarte, Isaiah Jackson, and Ben Sheppard. The Pacers missed the 2022 and 2023 NBA playoffs with a combined 60–104 record.

On October 26, 2023, Carlisle agreed to a multiyear contract extension with Indiana, extending beyond the 2024–25 season.

On November 6, 2023, Carlisle recorded his 900th win in a 41-point blowout win over the San Antonio Spurs.

In 2024, after a two-year rebuild and acquiring Pascal Siakam, Carlisle's Pacers finished with a 47–35 record as the 6th seed, qualifying for the 2024 NBA Playoffs, where they reached the Eastern Conference Finals.

Personal life
Carlisle married pediatrician Dr. Donna Nobile in 2000. They have a daughter, Abby, born c. 2005. Carlisle is an avid pianist and private pilot, who as of September 2015 had logged nearly 200 hours flying his Cirrus SR22T single-engine light aircraft.

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Sarina, Queensland

Sarina is a rural town and coastal locality in the Mackay Region, Queensland, Australia. In the, the locality of Sarina had a population of 5,619 people.

Geography
Sarina lies just inland of the east coast of Queensland, 34 km south of the city of Mackay, and approximately 300 km north of the city of Rockhampton. The Bruce Highway passes through the locality from south to north, as does the North Coast railway line.

The town of Sarina is located on Plane Creek, which flows into the Coral Sea, but most of the urban development is on the northern side of the creek. The Bruce Highway and the railway line pass through the town, which is served by the Sarina railway station.

Plane Creek West (previously known as Plane Creek Upper) is a neighbourhood within the locality (-21.4167°N, 149.1667°W), approximately 5.5 km west of the town of Sarina.

The neighbourhood of Oonooie lies 6.8 km south of the town (-21.46667°N, 149.23306°W) and is the name of a former railway station on the North Coast line, which was named on 29 April 1915, reportedly after a principal clanswoman of that area.

The neighbourhood of Mount Convenient lies 4.8 km north of the town (-21.4°N, 149.2°W) and is the name of a former railway station on the North Coast line, which was named on 30 October 1913 after a nearby peak, Mount Convenient.

The neighbourhood of Swayneville lies 9.9 km south-west of the town (-21.46667°N, 149.15°W).

The Goonyella railway line passes along the eastern boundary of the locality towards the Hay Point coal terminal.

Mount Chelona (204 m above sea level) is located in the north of the locality near where the Bruce Highway exits the locality north to Alligator Creek.

The Marlborough–Sarina Road enters from the southwest.

History
Yuwibara (also known as Yuibera, Yuri, Juipera, Yuwiburra) is an Australian Aboriginal language spoken on Yuwibara country. It is closely related to the Biri languages/dialects. The Yuwibara language region includes the landscape within the local government boundaries of the Mackay Region.

Sarina was originally known as Plane Creek, but took its present name from the Sarina Inlet which was in turn named after Sarina, the Greek mythological enchantress, by William Charles Borlase Wilson, a surveyor, some time before 1882.

Plane Creek Provisional School opened on 5 August 1897. In 1907 it became Plane Creek State School. In 1912 it was renamed Sarina State School. On 31 January 1956 a secondary department was added to the school, which operated until January 1964, when Sarina State High School opened.

Plane Creek Upper Provisional School opened on 1900 and closed on 1969. On 1 January 1909 it became Plane Creek Upper State School. In 1928 it was renamed Plane Creek West State School. It closed in 1969.

On Sunday 29 March 1908, the foundation block was laid for an Anglican church, adjacent to the court house. On Sunday 18 October 1908, the church was officially opened by Reverend T. Hely-Wilson. The church was dedicated to St Luke the Evangelist.

Hillside State School opened in 1909 and closed on circa 1926.

Middle Creek Provisional School opened in 1915. In 1916 it was renamed Laburnum Grove Provisional School. It closed circa 1941.

St Anne's Catholic Primary School was officially opened on 23 May 1925 by the Sisters of Mercy.

Mount Chelona State School opened on 4 September 1933 and closed circa 1941.

Swayneville State School opened on 26 August 1935.

Sarina State High School opened on 28 January 1964. In 2014, the school celebrated its 50th anniversary.

At the, Sarina had a population of 3,285.

In the 2011 census, Sarina had a population of 5,730 people.

On 24 October 2014 the former Mount Pelion State School building was moved to Sarina from the Northview State School in Mount Pleasant (where it was relocated in 1987) to be restored as part of the Sarina Art and Craft Centre in Railway Square.

In the, the locality of Sarina had a population of 5,522 people.

In the, the locality of Sarina had a population of 5,619 people.

Heritage listings
Sarina has a number of heritage-listed sites, including:
 * Broad Street (-21.4222°N, 149.2172°W): Sarina Air Raid Shelter
 * Broad Street (-21.4243°N, 149.2178°W): Sarina War Memorial

Economy
Industries include sugar cane growing and milling, cattle grazing and agriculture. It is a major supplier of ethanol through Wilmar International's Plane Creek sugar mill (-21.4283°N, 149.2162°W).

Approximately 15 km north is the second largest export coal terminal in Australia, and one of the biggest coal distribution terminals in the world, Hay Point.

Education
Sarina State School is a government primary (Prep–6) school for boys and girls at Broad Street (-21.4222°N, 149.2174°W). In 2017, the school had an enrolment of 465 students with 35 teachers (33 full-time equivalent) and 24 non-teaching staff (17 full-time equivalent). It includes a special education program.

Swayneville State School is a government primary (Prep–6) school for boys and girls at 952 Sarina Marlborough Road (-21.4726°N, 149.144°W). In 2017, the school had an enrolment of 112 students with 12 teachers (10 full-time equivalent) and 11 non-teaching staff (6 full-time equivalent). It includes a special education program.

St Anne's Catholic Primary School is a Catholic primary (Prep–6) school for boys and girls at 3 Range Road (-21.4243°N, 149.2143°W). In 2017, the school had an enrolment of 210 students with 20 teachers (17 full-time equivalent) and 15 non-teaching staff (7 full-time equivalent).

Sarina State High School is a government secondary (7–12) school for boys and girls at Anzac Street (-21.4208°N, 149.2136°W). In 2017, the school had an enrolment of 743 students with 64 teachers (61 full-time equivalent) and 43 non-teaching staff (27 full-time equivalent). It includes a special education program.

Amenities
The Mackay Regional Council operates a library at 65 Broad Street (-21.4213°N, 149.2166°W) and operates a mobile library service on a fortnightly schedule at Swayneville near the school. The library facility opened in 1984 with a major refurbishment in 2013.

The Sarina branch of the Queensland Country Women's Association meets at the QCWA Hall at 2 Broad Street (-21.4257°N, 149.2187°W).

There are a number of churches in Sarina, including:

 * St Michael's Catholic Church at 1 Range Road (-21.4238°N, 149.2142°W)
 * St Luke's Anglican Church at 58 Broad Street (-21.4212°N, 149.2172°W)
 * Sarina Uniting Church at 7 Range Road (-21.4243°N, 149.2137°W)
 * Wesleyan Methodist Church at 87 Range Road (-21.4315°N, 149.2068°W)
 * Sarina Presbyterian Church at 23 Sarina Beach Road (-21.4154°N, 149.2187°W)
 * New Life Church at 1 Leslie Street (-21.42312°N, 149.214°W)

Sport
Sarina is home of the Sarina Crocodiles, a Rugby league club, producing Queensland representative players including Martin Bella, Dale Shearer, Kevin Campion, Daly Cherry-Evans and dual international Wendell Sailor.

Attractions
A large cane toad statue, called Buffy, is situated in the town centre on the Bruce Highway (-21.4226°N, 149.2173°W) in honour of Sarina's cane farming history. Buffy was made from fibreglass in the early 1980s for a parade float for the Apex Sugar Festival. The name Buffy comes from the species name bufo marinus. Buffy has been painted for the "state of origin" football game multiple times and has even been stolen. To try and deter further theft, buffy has been chained to the concrete slab on broad street where he resides, though this hasn't stopped people from decorating Buffy with "Queenslander" flags and state of origin banners.

The Sarina Arts & Craft Centre is at 1 Railway Square (-21.4263°N, 149.2175°W) adjacent to the Mackay Region Visitor Information Centre. It occupies three historic buildings: the old court house built in 1906, the old jail built circa 1906, and the former Mount Pelion State School building built 1926.

Sarina Museum is also in Railway Square (-21.4267°N, 149.2176°W) in the former Catholic presbytery relocated to this site in 2001.

Also in Railway Square is the Sarina Sugar Shed (-21.4275°N, 149.2177°W), an information centre about the sugar industry. It shows how sugar is grown and processed using a working miniature sugar mill into an array of products.

Notable people from Sarina

 * Martin Bella – former professional rugby league footballer, represented Australia and Queensland
 * Kevin Campion – Former professional Rugby league represented Queensland
 * Daly Cherry-Evans – Professional Rugby league player, represented Queensland and Australia
 * Wendell Sailor – Professional Rugby league and Rugby union player
 * Dale Shearer – former professional rugby league footballer, represented Australia and Queensland

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St Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe

St Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe is a Church of England church located on Queen Victoria Street, London in the City of London, near Blackfriars station.

History
First mentioned around 1170, St Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe was almost certainly founded considerably earlier. During the 13th century the church was a part of Baynard's Castle, an ancient royal residence. In 1361, Edward III moved his Royal Wardrobe (a storehouse for Royal accoutrements, housing arms and clothing among other personal items of the Crown) from the Tower of London to just north of the church. It was from this association that the church acquired its unique name.

The Wardrobe and the church, however, were both lost in the Great Fire of London in 1666. Of the 51 churches designed by Sir Christopher Wren after the Great Fire, St Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe is among the simplest of his designs; it was erected in 1695.

The church was again gutted during the London blitz by German bombing; only the tower and walls survived. It was rebuilt and rededicated in 1961.

Present day
As the parish of St Andrew-by-the-Wardrobe rejects the ordination of women, it receives alternative episcopal oversight from the Bishop of Fulham (currently Jonathan Baker).

Advowson
The advowson of St Andrew's was anciently held by the family of FitzWalter to which it probably came from the holding by Robert Fitzwalter (d.1235) of the office of Constable of Baynard's Castle. In 1417 it was held by Thomas de Berkeley, 5th Baron Berkeley (d.1417), as his charter dated 24 June 1417 appointing feoffees to his estate records. Berkeley's Inn, the town house of that family stood nearby, at the south end of Adle Street, against Puddle Wharf, as reported by John Stow in his "Survey of London" (1598)

Building
St Andrew's is situated on a terrace overlooking the street, its plain red-brick exterior contrasting with the stone buildings on either side. The interior is aisled, with arcaded bays supported by piers rather than the usual columns. The original interior fittings were mostly destroyed during the war, and many of the church's features were procured from other destroyed Wren churches. The weathervane on the steeple comes from St Michael Bassishaw (which was demolished in 1900). A replacement pulpit came from the church of St Matthew, Friday Street. The font and cover also came from here. The royal arms, of the House of Stuart, came from St Olave Old Jewry (demolished, except for its tower, in 1887). There is a figure of St Andrew, dated around 1600, which stands on the north side of the sanctuary and an unusual figure of Saint Anne who is shown holding the Virgin Mary who in turn holds the Christ child. This statue, which is probably north Italian, dates to around 1500.

William Shakespeare was a member of this parish for about fifteen years while he was working at the Blackfriars Theatre nearby, and later he bought a house within the parish, in Ireland Yard. In his honour, a memorial was erected in the church.

Regular Sunday services are conducted there by the St Gregorios congregation of the Indian Orthodox Church.

The church was designated a Grade I listed building on 4 January 1950.

Notable clergy

 * Guy Treweek (husband of Rachel Treweek, the first female diocesan bishop in the Church of England), was priest-in-charge from 2011 to 2015
 * Luke Miller; rector since 2016, priest-in-charge from 2015 to 2016

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St Andrew Undershaft

St Andrew Undershaft is a Church of England church in the City of London, the historic nucleus and modern financial centre of London. It is located on St Mary Axe, within the Aldgate ward, and is a rare example of a City church that survived both the Great Fire of London and the Blitz.

The present building was constructed in 1532 but a church has existed on the site since the 12th century. Today, St Andrew Undershaft is administered from the nearby St Helen's Bishopsgate church.

History
The first church on the site, which today is bordered by St Mary Axe and Leadenhall Street, was built in medieval times, being recorded in 1147. It was rebuilt in the 14th century and again in 1532; this third incarnation of the building survives today. It is in the Perpendicular style with its entrance located at the base of its off-centre tower. The interior is divided into six bays, with many of the original fittings that survived the Victorian renovation. Formerly, St Andrew Undershaft had one of London's few surviving large stained-glass windows, installed in the 17th century, but this was destroyed in the Baltic Exchange bombing in 1992.

The church's curious name derives from the shaft of the maypole that was traditionally set up each year opposite the church. The custom continued each spring until 1517, when student riots put an end to it, but the maypole itself survived until 1547 when it was seized by a mob and destroyed as a "pagan idol". According to John Stow, the chronicler who is buried here, they had it "raised from the hooks whereon it had rested for two-and-thirty years, sawn in pieces and burnt."

St Andrew Undershaft is now administered from the nearby church of St Helen's Bishopsgate. St Andrew Undershaft was designated a Grade I listed building on 4 January 1950.

The tower holds a peal of six bells in the key of G, with the tenor being cast in 1597 by Robert Mot. These are now hung dead (they can only be rung stationary) inside the tower.

Organ
The organ was installed in 1696 by Renatus Harris. A swell was added in 1750 by John Byfield. There have been other restorations and enhancements by George Pike England in 1810–11 and 1826. Further work was carried out by William Hill, Speechly and J. W. Walker & Sons, and Rushworth and Dreaper. A specification of the organ can be found on the National Pipe Organ Register

The organ is of such historic significance that it has been awarded a Grade I historic organ certificate by the British Institute of Organ Studies.

Organists

 * William Goodgroome, 1696
 * Philip Hart, 1697–1749
 * John Worgan, 1749–1790
 * Mary Allen, 1790–1836
 * Richard Limpus, 1847
 * William Rea, 1847–1858
 * Elizabeth Stirling, 1858–1880
 * C. F. Frye, 1880–1886
 * W. M. Wait, 1887–1891
 * Herbert George Preston, 1891–1912
 * William A. S. Ballard, 1913–1921

Notable people associated with the church

 * Sir Thomas Offley, Lord Mayor of London 1563–64, was buried in 1582. The monument to Sir Thomas and his wife Joan (died 1578) survives in St Andrew Undershaft. Joan was a granddaughter of Sir Stephen Jennings, Lord Mayor, who funded the rebuilding of the church.
 * John Stow, author of the Survey of London: buried in 1605. The quill pen held in the hand of his alabaster monument is renewed periodically by, alternately, the Lord Mayor of London and the Master of the Worshipful Company of Merchant Taylors, at a memorial service organised by the London and Middlesex Archaeological Society.
 * Hugh Hamersley, Lord Mayor of London in 1627, whose memorial is in St Andrew Undershaft.
 * Hans Holbein the Younger, a former parishioner of St Andrew Undershaft was possibly buried in the church.
 * Frederick George Blomfield, rector of St Andrew Undershaft (1853–1879), son of Charles James Blomfield (Bishop of London) and father of Dorothy Gurney (poet and hymn writer).
 * John Lawrence Toole, a comedian who was born and christened in St Andrew Undershaft.
 * Fabian Stedman the father of church bellringing was buried in St Andrew Undershaft.

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Ivan Frederick

Ivan "Chip" Frederick II (born 1966) is an American former soldier who was court-martialed for prisoner abuse after the 2003–2004 Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal. Along with other soldiers of his Army Reserve unit, the 372nd Military Police Company, Frederick was accused of allowing and inflicting sexual, physical, and psychological abuse on Iraqi detainees in Abu Ghraib prison, a notorious prison in Baghdad during the United States' occupation of Iraq. In May 2004, Frederick pleaded guilty to conspiracy, dereliction of duty, maltreatment of detainees, assault, and indecent acts. He was sentenced to 8 years' confinement and loss of rank and pay, and he received a dishonorable discharge. He was released on parole in October 2007, after spending four years in prison.

Frederick was a staff sergeant and the senior enlisted soldier at the prison from October to December 2003. Prior to his deployment to Iraq, Frederick was a corrections officer at Buckingham Correctional Center in Dillwyn, Virginia.

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User talk:Jmabel/Archive 1

Seattle thing
Hi--I'm going to post that guy's paper to a History of Seattle article. It'll be too hard to incorporate as is into the current Seattle article. I'll just post it initially and then wikify part of it, hopefully others will be able to help, and then of course there will be actual edits, copy and otherwise. Lukobe 12/4/03 6:02 PST

Hello, regarding your recent move of Martin Fierro to Martín Fierro, please use the built-in "move this page" feature. Doing so will move not only the content of the page to a new title, but will move all the editing history along with it. Since you copy-and-pasted, the edit history is now scattered between Martin Fierro and Martín Fierro. Thanks, —Minesweeper 14:00, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

umlauts
Try using copious redirects - see redirect. This is how Godel, Goedel, and Gödel all work... Martin 15:51, 4 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Romania
There should be some articles about Romania, that are not to find in the English Wikipedia. Please see Gutza's talk page on the Romanian Wikipedia --Danutz 9 Dec 2003 21:00 (UTC)

 * Jmabel, there is a online translation of the revision of the Constitution on the english version of The Chamber of deputies. --Danutz 10 Dec 2003 17:40 (UTC)

 * Error in translating. Someseni was outside of the Cluj-Napoca city area, but was incorporated in it in 1989. The sentance to be translated was Aeroportul Someşeni se află în afara zonei urbane a oraşului Cluj-Napoca, într-o fostă comună (Someşeni), care a devenit după anul 1989 cartier de periferie al oraşului.Someseni airport is situated outside the Cluj-Napoca city area, in an ex-municipality (Someseni), that became a neighbourhood in the outskirts of the town after 1989''.

See Cluj-Napoca International Airport.

Question
Joe, as a native of Seattle myself, I have to say two things. One is that I'm so glad you're expanding its history article! I think you're doing a great job. The second, though, is a minor quibble: why "Silicon Forest"? It strikes me as an odd heading, and is a phrase I've never heard applied to Seattle (and while I'm not completely hip, I find it odd I haven't). Is it a usage peculiar to you? At any rate, I'm suggesting we call it "Recent History" or something a little plainer, just for simplicity's sake: I just wanted to run it by you out of courtesy, and because I did want to thank you for the work you've done. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jwrosenzweig 00:56, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I would think we can come up with something catchier than "recent history". "Silicon Forest" is moderately widely used. Google gives over 5,000 hits, though its hard to quickly sort out how many of those might be from the company of that name. Feel free to change it, I promise not to be offended.

In case you didn't notice, this is not mostly my material, its somebody's paper that was dumped into the site. There's still a lot of work to do. The man doesn't seem to even notice that a labor movement exists, this in a town that had a General Strike in 1926. But it's better than nothing, and it's a start. I still have to hit up the paper itself for his references, etc., but I'm busy the rest of the evening & will be on it tomorrow. Hack away, but I'd appreciate if you leave it to me to integrate the major "undigested" material that I'm in the middle of grappling with.

-- Jmabel 01:04, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Joe, thanks for the quick reply! Well, I just must be less hip than I thought I was...it's a clever little name for this time period, so I think I'll leave it, seeing as it's obviously reasonably widespread.  I will of course let you handle the undigested material -- once you're done, though, I think I'll jump in on this page where I can.  I've taught Wash. State Hist. a few times, and can think of some little tidbits I'd want to add.  I do intend to wait, though, until you finish shaping the page: bravo to you for taking on a tougher job, and for handling it quite well!  Best of luck, Jwrosenzweig 20:51, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Utilities
Hi, I'm not quite sure what you're trying to do at Wikipedia:Wikipedia:, but do you know that Utilities already exists. It seems your new page might duplicate this. There's also a more extensive list at List of articles in the Wikipedia namespace. Angela. 08:45, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Utilities is linked to from the Main Page and from Recentchanges so I can't see a way of making it more obvious than that. It's also linked to from two of the pages I listed here when you first joined, but for some reason you chose to delete those links with a rather rude message so perhaps you never went to those pages. If you want a digest of them, the only way to do this is on your user page, or a subpage of it. Most people here do that because everyone finds different links useful, so a digest for one person wouldn't work for another. Just go through the list and put the ones you find most useful somewhere like User:Jmabel/Utilities. Angela. 10:22, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Sorry, I didn't mean to sound so accusing earlier. Some people would say that you can do what you like with your own user talk page anyway, so there isn't a strict protocol as such. If you want to edit the help page - go ahead. Be bold! Angela. 11:44, 18 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Not about clarity
It's not about clarity. It's just that when somebody reads that article in a couple of years "The last few" years won't mean what you want them to. Zocky 18:59, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

It's not about clarity. It's just that when somebody reads that article in a couple of years "The last few" years won't mean what you want them to. Zocky 18:59, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)

 * Agreed. Hopefully by then someone will have edited it appropriately. Much the same problem exists with biographies of almost all living people ("is married, has n children). Britannica has the same problem. Jmabel 21:56, 19 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * I agree that that's a given for people or events that are still going on. However, for most of people, information about number of children or marital status is quite likely not to change in mid term (or at all). "Last couple of years" won't mean the same in any article. See my point? Zocky 00:21, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)
 * Sure. And, please, it was the deliberately vague "last few" instead of the guaranteed-to-be-quickly-outdated "last couple." If you have a better wording for that article (Zdub si Zdub) please, make the edit. This was my deliberate choice to be vague in my wording about something where my knowledge was vague. Jmabel 00:24, 20 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Re: WTO
Joe, I don't even know if it's still an issue for you, but regarding your question at the Reference Desk, I volunteer myself to help you. I do not know the database very well, but as a sysop I have the ability to view some (if not perhaps all...about this I am unclear) deleted pages. Can you suggest page titles that may have been deleted so that I can check them for the information you're seeking? Jwrosenzweig 21:03, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Duke of Shrewsbury
Yeah, not really my article - from the 1911 Britannica. Added a reference. john 23:34, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)

Wiki Project Ethnic Groups
I love your idea about creating a project on Ethnic Groups, but I couldn't find the talk paged alluded at the link on the wikiprojects page. I would like to be a participant in it if possible. Also I am trying to start a wikiproject on US Regions. Please post on my talk page if you are interested in my project or want me to participate in yours.

JCarriker 2:01 3 Jan 2004 (CST)

 * When I click on the link, WikiProject Ethnic Groups on the Wikiproject page, I am automatically directed to the edit page, http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Ethnic_Groups&action=edit and therefore see no talk page link. I would also like it if you would become a participant in the proposed wiki project us regions. If you want more information on my proposal, I'll post it here. Please say yes! The regions and their application are a mess.

 * JCarriker 2:27 3 Jan 2004 (CST)

 * I was waiting for someone to join me. I did not want to act unilaterly, as I have been critisized for in the past. I will put the Project up immediately. Please edit it and add your name to participants. I will do the same at Ethnic Groups.

 * JCarriker

Thanks for your invitation, I have added my name to particiants, but can't promise to be very active. My limited interest is in some articles about native American (Indian) tribal groups associated with the American revolution. Any updates or aricles I work in, I'll try to follow any template the project sets up as a standard, but I can't see many other major contributions. Thanks, and good luck in a difficult subject area. Lou I 16:22, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Re: Los Macheteros
Joe, I have given an NPOV edit to the Los Macheteros article. Please feel free to make any edits, comments, or suggestions necessarily. Maio 22:10, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Re: Sans-culottes
Sorry about the huge lag in reply time (went abroad). You're right about the Sans-culottes being Paris-specific, but I think it's important to at least mention the peasants and Sans-culottes in the section on the 3rd Estate, especially because of the latter's significance later on. And then mention that the bourgouis were the most politically powerful of the social classes. (PS I'm no expert on the French Revolution, so please correct me if anything I say is wrong) --Alex S 01:46, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Re: Census Bureau Regions & Template
I posted a response to you're question on the page. I hope it answers you're concerns about the censue bureau regions. Feel free to start disussing the templates for both offical and unofficial regions on the talk page too. Also I have crreated an article link to the Mbundu peoples of southwestern Africa in my article about Ann Nzinga Mbande, it has no text yet and would be the perfect place to test you're ethnic group template. They are spread through out northern Angola, and Boma-Matidi-Kinshasa/Brazzaville-Pointe Noir area of both Congos.

JCarriker Jan 5 8:31 (CST)

Re: September 11th truth movement
The page had already been deleted, with content that actually wasn't ranting; the new version not only didn't address the objections to the old one, it took a positive downhill turn.

Deletion policy goes into more depth.

Salsa Shark 09:38, 8 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Age of Extremes
Thanks, I accept your proposal. The discussion was in the vote for deletion page, but I guess somebody removed it. Marc Girod 15:19, 12 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Romania during World War II
Hi, I'm not familiar with that article so I don't know whether the comment belongs there at all. If there is a better article such a thing could be moved to then that might be a better option. If not, it could stay there, but if and only if it is actually attributed to who made the accusations. It seems inappropriate to just add it in without any statement as to who said it. I think you are very wise to try and avoid an edit war over what could potentially be a contentious topic. Usually the best way to avoid a conflict is to leave such statements in but to make it very clear who said them, and in what context they said them. This approach is recommended by the NPOV tutorial which you might find useful. If you can't attribute it to anyone, then it possibly shouldn't be included if it unverifiable. Hope that helps. Angela. 20:18, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

PDA

 * Thank you so much for answering my PDA question. But a magnet would destroy the PDA and delete the operating system. Do you know any way to permanently delete only some portions of the memory, and not the operating system? thank you. Optim 00:27, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)

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"Argument" with Wetman is not any pleasure for me. However, I suppose that the fact that I try to correct obviously false information is normal reaction. I will be happy to discuss any problem arising with anybody concerning the facts included in articles. I tried to start a dialog with Wetman to solve the problem. He did not answer even once on my aruments. Instead he started to threat me and to offend me. You can check it as well. He also falsely accused me that I deleted content of his page. Lets imagine that someone writes in Wikipedia that modern Jews are not descendants of ancient Jews. That love to kill Palestinians, the only owners of the territories belonging to Israel. That Jews kill Christian children because of religious reasons. And that they are born traitors. In such circumstancies you try explain that it is nonsens. But what if your opponent do not react on your arguments and explanations. Instead he starts to threat you and calls that you are a Jewish chauvinist who suppress inconvinient information. I had disagreements with many poeple on Wikipedia. But it always was an exchange of different points of view, finally ending with some kind of consensus. Wetman is the first person who even do not try to discuss. User:Yeti
 * I've replied at User talk:Yeti -- Jmabel 06:12, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 * How patient you are Jmabel. Ruthenia is all yours. I would never have got involved, except that kind of nationalist dishonesty gives me the creeps. Not a good motivation for editing, eh. Wetman 06:51, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your answer and advice, Jmabel. User:Yeti01:54, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Quick favor -- I have added a chronology section to Abbey Road infobox add Catherine Munro's suggestion, but it automatically treats Yellow Submarine as a header. How do I fix that so it isn't in bold? Tuf-Kat

Thanks for clarifying the info on the Socialist Appeal page. I originally deleted the link because I thought you meant the RCP (UK) of the 1980s and 90s (which is now defunct and discussed at Revolutionary Communist Party (UK)). Despite the similar names, they have no connection with the RCP (USA), the UK group not being Maoist or infact particularly Communist in any way. Warofdreams 13:32, 8 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Hi Jmabel,

Thanks for the warm welcome to your project and your city. I checked out your SCN webpage and already found some interesting stuff. I've also been impressed reading about the history of the various neighborhoods I've cycled through as I've lived here (3 so far in 5 months, another soon! gah! why is good housing so hard to find? :)  Peace, DanKeshet

Claude Vorilhon

 * Article: fr:Claude Vorilhon
 * Corresponding English-language article: None yet, presumably Claude Vorilhon
 * Worth doing because: No corresponding English article
 * Originally Requested by: Jmabel 08:29, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)
 * Status: Completed by Bogdangiusca 12th February 2004.
 * Other notes: Founder of Raelism. I don't really care about this article, I'm just putting it here as an example request. Jmabel 08:29, 11 Feb 2004 (UTC)

- I discovered that this had already been mostly translated, I did the last 'graph and polished it a little. I think this page is a great idea. :) fabiform | talk 08:23, 14 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Deleting subpages
If you want to delete a personal subpage, you can list it on Personal subpages to be deleted. RickK 03:46, 15 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Just wanted to tell you that I really like the new ethnic group template. Looks great! Danny 23:48, 16 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Uqbar
I strongly suspect no one has seen the problems at Uqbar. The page history shows that the only edits are from anonymous users, yourself, and someone adding an interlanguage link. It also links to only one article, so is fairly well hidden. I suggest you list it on Cleanup if you feel it has potential to become a real article. People are more likely to see it there than on a talk page they'll likely never visit. However, not everything in Cleanup does get looked at. If the issue remains, you could try rewriting it, or just remove everything that you can not verify. Would it be possible to turn it into a couple of sentences that are accurate? A very short stub that can be verified is lot better than a longer one with an accuracy dispute. In theory, the accuracy dispute notice ought to be enough as people are supposed to use the backlinks from Accuracy dispute to find the problematic articles, but in practice there are simply not enough people interested in doing this. Hope that helps. Angela. 09:56, Feb 21, 2004 (UTC)

Totalitarian democracy
Thanks, Jmabel, for your suggestions re. the above. As no one else has provided feedback, I will allow the article to rest for a while. I've been through it several times in an effort to NPOV it, though I suspect that any article involving politics or religion will be POV is someone's books. I note you have an extensive and impressive article list of topics related to this one. I would be pleased if you could take another look at it and give me a quick impression of how it might be improved. Thanks. Denni 06:32, 2004 Feb 22 (UTC)

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An excellent lesson on (N)POV - thank you!! Your changes are both non-intrusive and fair, and I will follow up on your rewrite suggestions once this note is posted. Since I have no vested interest on either side of the issue (I, like you if your writing is any indication, see myself as a liberal socialist, though I'm not especially politically active) and my primary purpose in Wiki is to provide accuracy and thoroughness in whatever I do. Denni 17:42, 2004 Feb 22 (UTC)

Uqbar
I'd say that if you want to rewrite Uqbar then you should do that. Pages like cleanup are more for calling attention to it when you don't want to or can't make the changes yourself. I've added a bit to Accuracy dispute explaining that articles with a dispute can be listed on cleanup or peer review. Does that help at all? Angela. 19:17, Feb 22, 2004 (UTC)

Gokturks
I would just like to thank you for answering my translation request. :-) You did, if judge I may be, a marvelous job. -Itai 21:36, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

U.S Regions Template & Infobox
Please review the proposed U.S. Regions template and infobox. The current proposal would only be for official regions. Please do not make any changes to the page until everyone has had a chance to view the curret proposal. Please signal that you have reviewed the proposal on it's talk page. Please also make any comments you have over the proposed template and infobox ont the propasal talk page as well. You can find the proposal here: Official Region Template and Infobox

- JCarriker 21:37, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

 * I have answered you're questions on the Official Region Template and Infobox talk page.
 * - JCarriker

None taken. Thanks for your input on the matter- thats a difficult page edit. My additions certianly needed some work- I just couldn't believe it talked so little about the event's relation to the cold war, aside from not totally liking its somewhat tilted tone. I found these sites [1],[2], [3] helpfull in understanding it. I didn't realize there was so much controversy over the matter- certainly I can appreciate your strategy. Perhaps I should have taken the same route! Greyengine5 01:30, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Davodd has completed the maps, and the U.S. South is now using the template and infobox. Since you already have experience editing the infobox page could you please add our template to it, my server has difficulties editing it. JCarriker 04:41, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)

thnx
 The bee thing: Not sure if you care, but are you aware of the significance of the beehive in Mormonism (to the point where Utah is known as the Beehive State)? Also, you might want to check out http://ww2.netnitco.net/users/legend01/bee.htm, if you haven't already found it yourself. Might be a lot of good leads. (No need to reply to me.) -- Jmabel 07:20, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Very interesting, Thanks! :)) Optim·.· |undefined 22:44, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

English Translation Project
I would love to take on the Tram translation from the French, but I'm so new to Wikipedia that I don't dare attempt the major edit that that would require until I become more familiar with the community and its standards. I signed up to the project because I am interested in it, perhaps I should remove my name until I'm comfortable with actually doing the work? --Vik Reykja 08:43, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

U.S. Regions Update
U.S. South, U.S. West and U.S. Northeast are now all using the infobox. The protype articles format has reached completion but the text is in dire need of additions. Please feel free to edit the text as you would any other article, but please do not make a change to the format with out explaining why on the discussion page. You can find the prototype article here The Non-Official infobox has been proposed please review it and post your opinons on it's talk page. You can find the proposal here.

-JCarriker 19:22, Mar 9, 2004 (UTC)

Fight for NPOV in political articles
Hi Joe, Thanks for your comments. Would appreciate you weighing in whenever you feel that it would be worthwhile to do so. Sometimes a thoughtful comment in a Talk page can make a difference. --Jose Ramos 06:26, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Borges Acevedo?
Is there a reason why Jorge Luis Borges's second surname Acevedo should be added to his name? AFAIK Borges never signed as "Borges Acevedo" or referred to himself like that -- only "Borges" or "J.L.B.". Moreover, using both parents' last names is not common or customary at all in Argentina. I just wanted to ask rather than deleting the change since there may be a reason you made it. In any case the Acevedo ascent is acknowledged by mentioning Borges's mother Leonor Acevedo... Pablo-flores 21:37, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

 * Now dealt with. -- Jmabel 01:01, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Get Well Soon
I'm sorry to read that you have had a serious injury and I hope that you will heal quickly and safely. I will look forward to collaborating with you again March 24. I wish to propose a major change to U.S. Regions but I will wait until you can participate.

Sincerely,

Jay Carriker

JCarriker 05:41, Mar 18, 2004 (UTC)

Message
I have responded to your request on the conservatism talk page. GrazingshipIV 21:07, Mar 25, 2004 (UTC)

Welcome Back
Welcome back! Please view my proposal at General Talk Page.

-JCarriker 21:37, Mar 29, 2004 (UTC)

Joe, as a native of Seattle myself, I have to say two things. One is that I'm so glad you're expanding its history article! I think you're doing a great job. The second, though, is a minor quibble: why "Silicon Forest"? It strikes me as an odd heading, and is a phrase I've never heard applied to Seattle (and while I'm not completely hip, I find it odd I haven't). Is it a usage peculiar to you? At any rate, I'm suggesting we call it "Recent History" or something a little plainer, just for simplicity's sake: I just wanted to run it by you out of courtesy, and because I did want to thank you for the work you've done. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jwrosenzweig 00:56, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)

I would think we can come up with something catchier than "recent history". "Silicon Forest" is moderately widely used. Google gives over 5,000 hits, though its hard to quickly sort out how many of those might be from the company of that name. Feel free to change it, I promise not to be offended.

In case you didn't notice, this is not mostly my material, its somebody's paper that was dumped into the site. There's still a lot of work to do. The man doesn't seem to even notice that a labor movement exists, this in a town that had a General Strike in 1926. But it's better than nothing, and it's a start. I still have to hit up the paper itself for his references, etc., but I'm busy the rest of the evening & will be on it tomorrow. Hack away, but I'd appreciate if you leave it to me to integrate the major "undigested" material that I'm in the middle of grappling.(b.c.e) after ww11 they wou

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Talk:Klipspringer

Additional Information
I added some information, including that females in some klipspringer populations have horns, klipspringers are able to stand on a cliff piece the size of a Canadian dollar coin, and the fact that they mate for life, as well as the "lookout" duty they perform. I added my reference to the bottom (http://www.wildinfo.com/facts/Klipspringer.asp?page=/facts/Klipspringer.asp). There are other sources with this same information if this source alone is not sufficient. I have only made one minor addition and some small edits to a Wiki article before, so if someone needs to better format my citation, please do. ~Elana 24.13.177.119 (talk) 23:08, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Jumping height
No animal of any kind jumps higher than 2.5 m because of limitations of physiology (it is a scaling law frequentyl discussed in textbooks), why should the klipspringer achieve 8 m? That is surely wrong. And indeed, there is no reference for this claim anywhere in the internet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.155.141 (talk) 09:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
 * I removed the sentence: "The Klipspringer is known for its remarkable jumping ability and is able to leap to staggering heights of 25 feet, which is about 15 times its own height." Zaian (talk) 11:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

 * Tree kangaroos can easily jump over 2.5m, and I know that buffalo can jump 2m. People can jump 2.3m, so I doubt that 2.5m is a hard and fast law. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.43.223 (talk) 23:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the user meant 2.5 times the animal's own height rather than 2.5 m. At any rate, I doubt you'll get a response from an anonymous user who posted two years ago. -- Fyrael (talk) 23:20, 26 August 2013 (UTC)

Untitled
As the name of this article is in Afrikaans, I changed the spelling of kopjes to the Afrikaans koppies. User:Magicmike 8 April 2004.

I have a sharp photo of a Klipspringer, so I'm replacing the drawing in the taxobox with it. The previous one is: Image:Klippspringer-drawing.jpg. Munificent 13:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

re: this: "They have such small feet that all four of its hooves can fit on an American dime at one time." -- this seems highly unlikely, given the size of a U.S. dime (less than one inch in diameter). Is this verified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.147.222.166 (talk) 21:04, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

 * I have difficulty believing it's that small. I've deleted it as probably vandalism... unless someone really does have a cite. Anaxial (talk) 21:59, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ripley's Believe it or Not 2001 special edition has that phrase on page 59. 75.62.124.115 (talk) 02:06, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Threats
The article mentions threats posed by humans, but it does not list any predators present in the species' natural habitat. (I refuse to believe that there are none, not for something so small and cute.) 68.111.138.230 (talk) 18:43, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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Cyclorrhapha

Cyclorrhapha is an unranked taxon within the infraorder Muscomorpha. They are called "Cyclorrhapha" ('circular-seamed flies') with reference to the circular aperture through which the adult escapes the puparium. This is a circumscriptional name that has significant historical familiarity, but in the present classification, this name is synonymous with the more recent "Muscomorpha".

Cyclorrhapha underwent major adaptive radiation that led to the creation of over 72 000 species. These species share multiple attributes such as the 360-degree rotation of the male terminalia.

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Bristol Community College

Bristol Community College (Bristol) is a public community college with four campuses in Southeastern Massachusetts.

History
The college was originally established in December 1965 when it was instituted by the Massachusetts Board of Regional Community Colleges.

Campuses
The Fall River campus is located on 65 acre of land at 777 Elsbree Street. There are three additional campuses in New Bedford located at 800 Purchase Street, Attleboro located at 11 Field Road and Taunton located at 2 Hamilton St.

Prior to 2014, Bristol held Taunton operations through day and night classes at Cohannet School and Benjamin A. Friedman Middle School, respectively. In 2014 it occupied the former Taunton Catholic Middle School in Taunton, which now houses a satellite campus of its own. In 2021, it moved to the centrally-located former Coyle & Cassidy Memorial High School.

Academics

Bristol Community College offers associate degrees and certificates in over 150 academic programs, ranging from Associate of Science degrees, Associate of Arts degrees, Associate of Applied Science degrees, and a wide range of certificates. Bristol Community College is accredited by the New England Commission of Higher Education.

Student life
At the end of the 2010–11 year, Bristol Community College had an undergraduate population of 12,123 day and evening credit students, along with an additional 17,439 in noncredit enrollments. The average annual tuition and fees for in-state students was around $4,166, whereas the out-of-state students paid, on average, about $9,482 in total annual tuition and fees. The average cost for a 3 credit course is approximately $498, equivalent to about $166 per credit.

Athletics
The Bristol's athletic program was re-established in 2008. Under the guidance of Derek Viveiros as the athletic director, the college now competes in the National Junior College Athletic Association (NJCAA) in five varsity sports: men's and women's soccer in the fall, men's and women's basketball in the winter, and men's golf in the spring. The current mascot is the "Bristol Bayhawk."

Notable people

 * William E. Kaufman, professor of philosophy, author of several theology books including Journeys: An Introductory Guide to Jewish Mysticism, The Case for God, A Question of Faith: An Atheist and a Rabbi Debate the Existence of God With Morton Shor and The Evolving God in Jewish Process Theology.
 * Dana Mohler-Faria, former BCC Assistant Dean of Administrative Services (served from 1984 to 1987), former president of Bridgewater State College and the Special Advisor for Education to the former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick.
 * David B. Sullivan, member of the Massachusetts House of Representatives (1997–2013)
 * Howard Tinberg, professor of English, the Carnegie Foundation's Outstanding Community College Professor of 2004.

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User:Tail

I am one of the administrators of the Latvian version of Wikipedia (see User:Tail), and I am mostly active there, though I also edit articles in other Wikipedias (usually when I spot a mistake).

I can be reached at vikipedija(at)gmail(dot)com, though you may find it more convenient to leave a message on my talk page.

de:Benutzer:Tail es:Usuario:Tail fr:Utilisateur:Tail lv:User:Tail

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Vieta

Vieta may refer to:

 * François Viète (1540–1603), commonly known by the Latin form of his name Franciscus Vieta, a French mathematician
 * Vieta (crater), a crater on the Moon, named after him
 * Vieta's formulas, expressing the coefficients of a polynomial as signed sums and products of its roots.
 * Artūras Vieta (born 1961), Lithuanian sprint canoer
 * Eduard Vieta, a Spanish psychiatrist
 * Vieta (beetle), a genus of beetles

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Talk:Baraminology

Does part of the scientific community accept baraminology?

 * Baraminology is not accepted by most of the scientific community

Juan777Olivier's addition of two words to alter the meaning of the lead sentence has been reverted by several different contributors now.

The dismissal of baraminology is widespread at the very least. There surely would exist some professional scientists who personally subscribe to baraminology, but even so, I'm not aware of any cases where baraminology is being published in mainstream (particularly top impact factor) scientific journals, nor of baraminology being treated as a plausible alternate hypothesis in current expert reviews of biological classification and phylogeny. It seems to get much less mention than panspermia, for example, in papers on topics relating to abiogenesis or the questions of LUCA. (In fact, there has been some legitimate scientific exploration of the possibility life may have originated from independent rather than common ancestors, and it might be useful for this article to for example highlight the differences between that and baraminology.) Cesiumfrog (talk) 08:21, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 * I'm not disagreeing with what you say or with the reverts - but none of this addresses J7O's point. The point is that there is certainly some serious scientist somewhere, possibly called Steve, who believes in baraminology, therefore it is wrong to suggest that all scientists, or the whole scientific community, reject baraminology. I'm not really sure what can be done to counter such "logic" except to ignore them until they go away. Perhaps it's a misunderstanding of what is meant by "the scientific community" (and perhaps your comment does therefore address J70's point), but since that's a nebulously social and non-scientific construct, it's not a debate I'd ever recommend anyone getting into. GDallimore (Talk) 11:52, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 * On reflection, I've realised what the problem is: saying something is rejected by the scientific community is as meaningless as saying someone called Steve doesn't reject it. People's opinions do not matter and we're not being direct enough in the article in putting it in it's place. GDallimore (Talk) 12:02, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 * I've removed the offending phrase to get to the point more quickly. Sadly noticed that the rest of that section is original research. I doubt there's any way to salvage it. GDallimore (Talk) 12:09, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 * I have restored the original valid statement. If any so-called scientists disagree with the overwhelming scientific consensus their WP:FRINGE views do not need to be included per WP:DUE.Charles (talk) 14:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

 * You've just totally missed the point of removing it. Read my comments above first and don't assume bad faith as you have. GDallimore (Talk) 00:02, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * PS, it was also unsourced. GDallimore (Talk) 00:04, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * It is very well sourced in the lede. My edit summary did not accuse or imply bad faith. The arbitration committee has ruled that pseudoscience should be clearly identified as such. This statement helps to do that. Without it there will be material in the lede which is not in the body of the article. There is no consensus to just remove it while discussion is ongoing.Charles (talk) 09:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Note that none of the sources in the lead mention baramingology at all. I wrote the current wording of the lead which is the closest I could get to something which is actually supported by the sources but is still technically original research. There are almost no reliable sources on the topic, which is the problem. And how does the current wording of the section, which includes only well-verified facts, apart from the bits of OR I have explicitly tagged, not make clear that baraminology is rubbish. The statement "the scientific community rejects it" is opinionated and causes flame wars whereas simple, well-referenced facts saying specifically why it is rubbish are not only better arguments, but are also not open to debate. GDallimore (Talk) 12:23, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Oh, and when it comes to removing it, the balance of argument is on MY SIDE, not yours, unless you can find a specific source. GDallimore (Talk) 12:24, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Where the Bible speaks of "kinds"
What is one to do with this? The Bible does not speak of "kinds". It only uses the word "kind" in a set phrase, "according to his/their kind". Never uses the plural "kinds", never says anything about a kind, such as that a kind is created or is fixed. But is it "original research" to point that out? I am not aware of any scholarship which has bothered to deal with it. On the other hand, is it OK to use language such as where the Bible speaks of "kinds"? TomS TDotO (talk) 12:57, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

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Removal of unsourced sentence
I'm removing an unsourced sentence in the "criticism" section. Aside from not having a source, I'm pretty sure this sentence is incorrect, because the exchange between Phil Senter and Todd Wood was published in the Journal of Evolutionary Biology, which is a peer-reviewed journal.

I suppose it's debatable whether Senter's original paper qualifies as a baraminology paper, because he was using the methods of baraminology without accepting the field's premises. However, Todd Wood's reply definitely does qualify as a baraminology paper. This paper is a re-analysis of Senter's results using a different baraminology method, written by a creationist who regards baraminology as valid.

As an aside, I think this article has a WP:SYNTH problem. A lot of the sources that it cites just discuss evolution and creationism in general, without saying anything about baraminology in particular. This is a problem because baraminology has an unusual status in creationism--it's used by some creationists who care about internal consistency, but the major creationist organizations generally reject it, and thus it's never been a central part of creationism in the same way as something like Flood geology. (For example see this article, which basically argues that baraminology is too similar to the methods used by evolutionary science.) Thus, I don't think we can always assume that what a source says about creationism in general would apply to baraminology in particular. --Captain Occam (talk) 08:42, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

"Created kind" redirect
I think it was the wrong decision to redirect Created kind to this article. These terms refer to two different concepts: a created kind is a hypothetical biological division that's a basic part of modern creationism, whereas baraminology is a specific set of methods creationists have invented to try and identify those divisions. Virtually all creationists today accept the existence of created kinds, but (as I linked to in the section above) not all of them accept the methods of baraminology.

As it is at present, around half of the article is taken up by explaining what creationists actually mean by "created kind", and very little space is given to describing the actual methods used by baraminologists, such as BDISTMDS and ANOPA. Those methods are what I think this article should be focused on, and the meaning of "created kind" should be explained in a different article.

Even though the decision to create this redirect was made a decade ago, I'd rather not undo it unilaterally, so I'll ask the editor who proposed the merge whether he agrees with my reasoning. --Captain Occam (talk) 10:21, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

 * I actually think that the merge should go the other way. "Baraminology" should be part of a larger created kind article. I would not object to switching the roles, but I would object to two different articles. As for the rest of your contentions, is there much WP:FRIND literature that documents the methods of believers in baraminology that you are describing? If not, I'm afraid we cannot really go into such WP:FRINGE depth per Wikipedia rules. But, maybe there are non-creationist sources which discuss these "methods" as object lessons? I would be curious to learn about them. Please indicate what sources you would use. jps (talk) 13:22, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

 * I hadn't been familiar with the WP:FRIND guideline, so I suppose that limits how much detail we can include from creationist sources. Aside from the sources already in the article, I'm one of the authors of a (non-creationist) book that discusses some of these methods, but I'd like to avoid adding citations to my own book per WP:COI. You might find my book useful as a source, though. Baraminology is discussed in its fourth and fifth chapters.

 * I approve of your suggestion to switch the roles, and have baraminology be part of a larger "created kind" article. Let's plan on doing that. --Captain Occam (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

 * It would be nice to put this topic into a more religious context if at all possible. Since baraminology and created kinds are essentially ignored by the scientific community, I see a good article on the subject couched as a kind of interrogation of the mindset of some of the more adamant YECs. These concepts are really just a way to explain the Noah's Ark story along with the extremely rapid macroevolution(!) they believe happened since the global flood. jps (talk) 14:29, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

 * I also don't think that your book quite rises to the level of WP:RS as it is published by a private publisher. From the looks of it, it is an excellent private publisher, but per WP:RS/SPS, I think the only way we could even entertain using such a source would be to attribute the work as the opinions of the authors. I, frankly, don't see a good argument for doing that as the authors don't seem to be particular known in the field of comparative religion or related fields. jps (talk) 14:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

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