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Formula One regulations

The numerous Formula One regulations, made and enforced by the FIA and later the FISA, have changed dramatically since the first Formula One World Championship in 1950. This article covers the current state of F1 technical and sporting regulations, as well as the history of the technical regulations since 1950.

Chassis
An F1 car can be no more than 200 cm wide and 95 cm tall. Though there is no maximum length, other rules set indirect limits on these dimensions, and nearly every aspect of the car carries size regulations; consequently the various cars tend to be very close to the same size. The car and driver must together weigh at least 798 kg as of 2024.

The car must only have four wheels mounted externally of the body work with only the front 2 steered and only the back 2 driven. The maximum distance allowed between the front and rear wheels (the wheelbase) is 360 cm.

The main chassis contains a "safety cell" which includes the cockpit, a structure designed to reduce impact directly in front of the cockpit, and the fuel cell directly behind the cockpit. Additionally, the car must contain roll structures behind and ahead of the driver. The driver must be able to enter and exit the cockpit without any adjustments other than removing the steering wheel.

There are also mandatory crash test standards. There is a 30 mph head-on impact into a steel barrier; "average deceleration must not exceed 25g", with a maximum 60g for a minimum 3 milliseconds, with no damage to the chassis beyond the nose section. The same chassis must then sustain a rear impact from a sled travelling at 30 mph, with no damage in front of the rear axle. The roll hoop is not permitted to crush beyond 50 mm, and structural failure is only permitted in the top 100 mm of the body. Side impacts by a 780 kg object at 10 m/s must be decelerated at less than 20g, and absorb no less than 15% and no more than 35% of the total energy; 80 kN can not be exceeded more than 3 milliseconds. The steering wheel must survive the impact of an 8 kg 165 mm-diameter object at 7 m/s with no deformation of the wheel or damage to the quick-release mechanism.

In addition, there are "squeeze tests" on the cockpit sides, fuel tank, and nosebox. The cockpit must survive a 25 kN force with no failure; for the fuel tank, 12.5 kN is applied. A maximum 3 mm deformation is allowed. For the cockpit rim, the figures are 10 kN and 20 mm. The nosebox must withstand 40 kN for 30 seconds without failing.

Onboard electrical and computer systems, once inspected at the start of the season, may not be changed without prior approval. Electronic starters and launch control are forbidden. The computers must contain a telemetric accident data reporting system.

Continuously variable transmissions (CVTs) have been banned since 1994, two weeks after very successful tests in the Williams FW15C in 1993 that proved CVTs had the potential to keep other teams at a competitive disadvantage for a long time due to the difficulties of designing sufficiently strong belts for use in CVTs. It was speculated that the use of a CVT alone led to an advantage of several seconds per lap. CVTs have never been used in Formula 1 races. A rule was added in 1994 that stated that gearboxes must have anywhere from 2 to 7 discrete gear ratios, alongside a clause that explicitly bans CVTs. Active suspensions were also banned in 1994 due to safety concerns by the FIA over ever-higher speeds, and other "driver aids" were also banned that same year, including 4-wheel steering, which was tested and found to provide negligible if any reduction in lap times.

Since 2014, transmissions with 8 gear ratios and 1 reverse gear ratio are required in Formula 1 cars.

Engine
2.4-litre V8 engines were used in the 2013 season. The engine technology was greatly changed from the 2014 season with the introduction of the 1.6-litre turbocharged V6-hybrid engine. The engine minimum weight is 145 kg.

For the 2017 season, the fuel limit per race was increased to 105 kg. For the 2019 season, the limit was again increased to 110 kg. The power outputs of F1 engines have not been disclosed since the 1990s, however, the consensus is that the 1.6 L turbocharged V-6 engines produce 750 to 850 bhp, depending on trims and mappings. Another radical change in 2014 was the introduction of the ERS (Energy Recovery System). This system works similarly to KERS, with drivers getting a full-time boost of about 160 bhp from electric motors used in conjunction with the internal combustion engine (generating around 1,000 bhp in total) instead of a 6-second bank of extra power per lap. The combination of these systems led to the term power unit being used in lieu of engine.

Devices designed to inject any substance into the cylinders other than air and fuel (petrol) are forbidden, as are variable-length intake and exhaust systems. The crankshaft and camshafts must be made of steel or cast iron. The use of carbon composite materials for the cylinder block, cylinder head and pistons is not allowed. Separate starting devices may be used to start engines in the pits and on the grid. If the engine is fitted with an anti-stall device, this must be set to cut the engine within ten seconds in the event of an accident.

The engines, now referred to as power units, are divided into 6 components: the internal combustion engine (ICE); turbocharger (TC); Motor Generator Unit-Kinetic (MGU-K), which harvests energy that would normally be wasted under braking; Motor Generator Unit-Heat (MGU-H), which collects energy in the form of heat as it is expelled through the exhaust; Energy Store (ES), which functions as batteries, holding the energy gathered by the Motor Generator Units; and Control Electronics (CE), which includes the Electronic Control Unit and software used to manage the entire power unit. In 2015, each driver was allowed to use up to four of each component during a season that is up to 20 scheduled races in length; a fifth power unit (and its components) could be used without penalty if more than 20 races are scheduled to take place. A ten-place starting grid penalty was applicable for the use of a power unit component used beyond the established allocation, and a pit lane start for the entire unit changes beyond the limit.

*Note: The density of fuel here varies, but is approximately between 0.7 – 0.77 g/mL. *(Figures above reflect that range.)*

Refuelling
From 2010, refuelling is no longer permitted during the race and now every car starts with a full fuel load. The 2010 season cars were about 22 cm longer than 2009 cars to accommodate the enlarged fuel tank this necessitated.

Tyres
Formula 1 has contracted a single supplier of tyres since the 2007 season. The supplier (Pirelli since ) supplies 5 specifications of slick dry-weather tyres (C1, C2, C3, C4, C5), of which 3 compounds are provided at each race (as soft, medium and hard). From to, 2 types of dry tyres were provided at each race weekend, known as the Prime and the Option. Teams are supplied with more sets of Prime tyres than Option tyres for use throughout the weekend. The Prime tyre is usually harder and therefore more durable than the Option tyre, while the Option tyre provides more grip and therefore allows faster lap times when the tyres are fresh. At some events the selection is reversed, with the Option tyre being harder than the Prime. The combination of longer lasting and faster tyres adds an element to each car's race strategy. Additionally, 2 wet-weather compounds are provided by the supplier: intermediate and full wet. From onward, 3 dry tyre compounds are brought to a race weekend. Since 2019, regardless of tyre compound, one tyre is designated as soft, one as medium, and one as hard. One set of the softest tyres is set aside for Q3 and two sets of the middle and the hardest tyres are kept for the race. Drivers select 10 sets of tyres for a race weekend. Each compound is differentiated by a colour-coded band painted around the tyre's sidewall and including the supplier's logo: red for soft, yellow for medium, white for hard, green for intermediate, and blue for full wet.

Competitors are allowed only a limited number of tyre sets during a race event: 13 dry, 4 intermediate, 3 wet. Each tyre must be marked with a unique identifier for tracking and scrutinising during a race event. During the practice sessions drivers are limited to the use of 3 sets of dry tyres, and certain sets must be returned to the supplier before the second and third sessions. From 2014 to 2021, if qualifying and starting the race on dry tyres, drivers who completed a lap during the third period of qualifying (the top ten) were required to start the race on the tyre set with which they recorded their fastest time during the second period. Any cars that qualified outside the top ten may have started the race on any remaining set of tyres. This rule was removed prior to the 2022 season. Cars must race on any 2 dry compounds during a race unless intermediate or wet tyres have been used by that car in that race.

Prior to qualifying, wet and intermediate tyres may only be used if the track is judged wet by the race director. Starting the race behind the safety car due to heavy rain requires cars to be fitted with wet tyres until they make a pit stop.

Heaters may be applied only to the outside of tyres.

Parc fermé
After weighing during each qualifying session, teams are required to take their cars to a place in the paddock, sectioned off by the FIA, known as parc fermé; they may not do work on the cars, other than routine maintenance, until they are released from parc fermé for the race the next morning.

If a team must do other significant work, body work or suspension adjustments, the car will start from the pit lane.

Race procedure

The pit lane opens forty minutes before the start of a race (t−40:00), during which time drivers may drive around the track as much as they like, driving through the pit lane each time around in order to avoid the grid. Drivers must be in their cars and in place on the grid by time the pit lane closes at t−30:00; otherwise they must start the race from the pits. Meanwhile, teams may work on their cars on the grid.

At t−10:00 the grid is cleared of everyone except team mechanics, race marshals, and drivers. A team will generally want to keep its tyres off their cars and heated in their tyre-warmers for as long as possible, but they must be attached to the cars by t−3:00.

Engines must be running by t−1:00; at fifteen seconds to the start all personnel must be clear of the track. Green lights signify the start of the formation lap, also known as the parade lap, during which drivers must remain in the same order (no passing) except if a car ahead has stopped due to a technical problem, or has had an accident. The cars circle the track once, usually weaving from side to side to warm up their tyres, and form up again in their starting positions on the grid. A series of short, controlled burnouts is usually performed as each driver approaches their grid box in order to maximize rear tyre temperature and clean off any debris from the parade lap.

If, for some reason, a car cannot start the race (engine failure during qualifying or practice, suspension fails, etc.), the car can still join the race, but will take a 10-position penalty at the start. For example, if the car qualifies in 3rd, but has to change an engine at any point during the race weekend prior to the actual race, the car will start from 13th position. For strategy's sake, teams will sometimes opt to start a car affected in this way from the pit lane. This means they start at the tail end of the grid; however, they can not only change an engine, but also start the race with fresh tyres.

Gearboxes must be used for five consecutive events (counted as P3, the qualifying practice session and the race). A 5-place grid penalty will be incurred if a replacement gearbox is used (Pole position becomes 6th).

The race is started by ten red lights in two rows of five (i.e. 5 columns of 2). The red lights in each column operate as a pair i.e. both go on and off together. The lights illuminate one pair at a time, left to right, in one-second intervals, and then go out simultaneously after a random interval (i.e. 4–7 seconds). When the lights go out, the race officially begins. Should the start need to be aborted for any reason, all 5 pairs of red lights will come on as normal, but instead of going out, the orange lights will flash. All engines are stopped and the start resumes from the 5-minute point. If a single driver raises their hand to indicate that they can't start, the marshal for that row will wave a yellow flag, then after a few seconds, both the red and orange lights will extinguish and the green lights will come on to indicate another formation lap.(No overtaking in formation laps)

Scoring
The Drivers' and Constructors' Championships are decided by points, which are awarded according to the place in which a driver classifies at each grand prix. To receive points a racer need not finish the race, but at least 90% of the winner's race distance must be completed. Therefore, it is possible for a driver to receive some points even though they retired before the end of the race. In that case the scoring is based on the distance completed in comparison to other drivers. It is also possible for the lower points not to be awarded (as at the 2005 United States Grand Prix) because insufficient drivers completed 90% of the winner's distance. The system was revised in 2003 and later amended for the 2010 season because of two new teams entering the sport. The scoring system from 2019 on is:

For scoring systems prior to 2019, refer to the List of Formula One World Championship points scoring systems.

Drivers finishing lower than tenth place receive no points.

From 2010 until the end of 2021 championship, if the race had to be abandoned for any reason before 75% of the planned distance (but after a minimum of two completed laps), then the points awarded were halved: 12.5, 9, 7.5, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0.5. The rules regarding the awarding of points were reviewed by FIA, teams and Formula One following criticism after the 2021 Belgian Grand Prix, during which the race was red flagged on lap 3 after two laps behind the safety car, with no laps having been completed under green flag conditions at racing speed, before the race was abandoned prematurely, with the race result—a win for Max Verstappen—being taken after the first lap. More than two laps were considered by the FIA to have been completed by leader because the leader Verstappen had crossed the control line three times before the race was abandoned.

Following this, the point allocation for suspended races was changed for the 2022 season. The points awarded follow a gradual scale system as follows: If more than 75% of the scheduled race distance is completed, full points will be awarded. Additionally, the fastest lap point will now only be awarded if more than 50% of the scheduled race distance is completed. However, these rules do not apply and full points will be awarded when a race is suspended and then resumed, even if the whole race distance cannot be completed in the 3 hour race window. However, this was changed for 2023 thereby satisfying the original intent of the gradual scale system.
 * No points will be awarded unless a minimum of two laps had been completed under green flag conditions.
 * If more than two laps are completed, but less than 25% of the scheduled race distance, points will be awarded to the top 5 on a 6–4–3–2–1 basis.
 * If 25%–50% of the scheduled race distance is completed, points will be awarded on a 13–10–8–6–5–4–3–2–1 basis to the top 9.
 * If 50%–75% of the scheduled race distance is completed, points will be awarded on a 19–14–12–9–8–6–5–3–2–1 to the top 10.

Points are awarded equally to the driver and their constructor; for example, if a driver for one team comes second, eighteen points are added to their season total; if their teammate finished third in the same race, they add fifteen to their total and the team adds 33 (the sum of the drivers' points) to its total. The championships are awarded to whichever driver and constructor have the most points at the end of the season. In case of a tie, the FIA compares the number of times each driver has finished in each position. The championship goes to whichever had the greater number of wins; if they have the same number of wins, it goes to the driver with the greater number of second places, and so on. For example, if drivers A and B were tied at the end of a season, and B had six wins and 3 second-place finishes, but A had six wins and four second-place finishes (even if they had fewer third places than B, etc.), then A would be champion.

On 10 December 2013, it was confirmed that drivers and constructors will score double points in the final Grand Prix from 2014 onwards, but this was abandoned in the weeks following the 2014 season.

Flags
Many venues make use of electronic displays to indicate flags to give various messages to drivers. However, race marshals continue to use physical flags as a redundancy mechanism in the event of electronic display failure. Marshals are positioned at numerous points around the track during every race. Flags have different meanings depending on their colour; the colours (with Pantone values as specified by the FIA) signify as follows:

Flags, whose specifications and usage are prescribed by Appendix H of the FIA's International Sporting Code, must measure at least 60 cm by 80 cm, excepting the red and chequered flags, which must measure at least 80 cm by 100 cm.

Penalties
Penalties may be imposed on drivers for numerous offences, including jumping the start, speeding in the pit lane, causing an avoidable accident, unsportsmanlike conduct, or ignoring flags of any color. There are four types of penalty which a driver may incur for violation of on-track rules:

A time penalty is the most common type of penalty, and can last either five or ten seconds. It may be served during the next pit stop. After the driver stops in their pit box, mechanics must wait for 5 or 10 seconds before touching the car. Touching the car while the penalty is still in effect will result in another being added for serving the penalty incorrectly. If the driver did not serve their penalty in the pit lane, the time penalty will be added to their time at the end of the race.

A drive-through penalty requires the driver to enter the pit lane, drive through it while obeying its speed limit, and exit without stopping. As a drive-through penalty does not require the driver to stop, it is less costly than a stop-go penalty.

A ten-second stop-go penalty requires the driver to enter the pit lane, stop at their pit for ten seconds, and exit again. As the stop is designed to punish the driver for an offence, team mechanics are forbidden to work on the offending car at any time while the driver is serving the penalty. Stop-go penalty is the harshest penalty short of disqualification and is given for serious offences such as endangering other drivers. The most recent occurrence of this was at the 2024 Emilia-Romagna Grand Prix, where Alex Albon was penalized for re-entering the race from pit while clearly having a loose right front tyre.

For drive-through and stop-go penalties, a driver has 2 laps from the time their team hears of the penalty to enter the pits; if the driver does not pit within 2 laps, the driver will be black-flagged. The exception to this rule is if the Safety Car is deployed before a driver serves their penalty, in which case the driver is not allowed to serve the penalty until after the Safety Car comes back in. If the driver incurs a penalty within the last 5 laps of the race, the driver need not pit at all; instead, twenty seconds will be added to their total race time in case of a drive-through penalty, and thirty seconds in case of stop-go penalty.

The most severe penalty in common use is a black flag, which may be imposed for ignoring penalties or for technical irregularities of any sort; it signifies that the driver has been disqualified from the race and their results for that race will not count toward the championship. If the black flag is not considered sufficient for the offence that the driver has committed, the driver may be banned for a number of races after the event. For example, Romain Grosjean's crash at the 2012 Belgian Grand Prix earned him a one-race ban at the next race. In modern Formula One, most disqualifications have occurred due to infringements found during post-race scrutineering; for example, Sebastian Vettel was disqualified from the 2021 Hungarian Grand Prix due to insufficient fuel sample, and Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc were both disqualified during the 2023 United States Grand Prix due to excessive plank wear.

A grid penalty may be given for the next race, which may increase depending on the severity of a penalty. Grid penalties have also been given due to exceeding the quota of an engine component. For example, a 5-place grid penalty means if the driver qualified first, they would start the race from sixth position.

The most extreme punishment of all (used for seriously endangering the life of another driver or trying to gain an unfair advantage in the championship) is to be excluded from the drivers' world championship that year. Such cases may be taken to judicial court. The only time that this has happened was in 1997, where Michael Schumacher, at the final race, deliberately turned in on Jacques Villeneuve, damaging both cars and taking himself out of the race, though inflicting enough damage to Villeneuve's car to slow him down.

Pit to car messages
There is no restriction on what information can be given to the driver, except during the formation lap.

Previously, to ensure that drivers drive the car 'alone and unaided' and are not being 'coached' from the pit wall, stricter rules were in place to govern what information could and could not be given to a driver over team radio. For example, it was not allowed for a driver to be given information about driving lines or how to adjust their car to make it faster whilst out on the track. These restrictions were removed at the 2016 German Grand Prix.

History
The primary reasons behind rule changes have traditionally been to do with safety and (mostly since 2000) to limit the cost of the sport.

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Talk:1988

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:47, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Recent reverts...
's recently reverted two edits by. Both of these edits by Mike seemed reasonable...adding Bill & Ted's to movies and Animated Beast to Games. I'd like to see consensus developed here. Both of the linked articles reference 1988, and regrettably, due to my age, seem reasonable. :) Wikibofh 04:12, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Infrogmation's revert was justified. IMDB says Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure was released in the states on February 1989. In addition, Altered Beast is a 1989 game according to GameFAQs  and GameSpy . --Krystyn Dominik 04:27, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I forgot Altered Beast is a Japanese game and yes it was released in 1988 over there. However this is an English version of Wikipedia, the predominately English speaking countries didn't have that game until after 1989. In addition, Altered Beast is not that notable entry to included. It has to be somewhat "groundbreaking" like 1990 with "Super Mario Bros. 3 is released on the Nintendo Entertainment System console and sold over 6 million copies worldwide. It is known as the best selling video game in history." --Krystyn Dominik 04:35, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * It seems like there is some discussion on the B&T page about the actual date. I think the preponderance of evidence is probably 89, but I can see how 1988 might be reasonable.  As for Altered_Beast it's article says '88, which is why I thought it was appropriate.  I'll grant you it isn't that notable, but I remembered it, and I can't say how many of the video games from that time actually stuck with me...probably way too many.  Regardless, I'll go with consensus. Wikibofh 15:06, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Births
Is there a limit on the number of people who can be listed under "births"? I just listed the entire category. User:Carie 21:15, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
 * I tried to set a precedent a while back, and people complained. So list every single person who was born in that year if you wish, but this might finally persuade people that I might have had a point when the article becomes dominated by births. Personally, I think it should be restricted to internationally famous individuals (household names, in other words, with the rule "if you have to ask, they're not notable enough") if not globally then at least over a continent Average Earthman 15:19, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Nominations for deletion
Running through this lengthy article these were selections that didn't seem particularly noteworthy to me. To reach consensus on whether to delete these, editors could make their arguments for or against under each?

 * March 1 - Anthony M. Frank is appointed United States Postmaster General.
 * July 1 - Bologna, Italy: Quartetto Cetra's last concert after over forty years' musical career.
 * August 10- Barney's 1st video, "The Backyard Show," starring Sandy Duncan, is released.
 * August 31 - Dr. Teeth & The Muppets collapse at Walt Disney World; their new show was "Dr. Teeth & The Psychic Singers" which debuted three weeks earlier.
 * September 1- Acacia pycnantha proclaimed Australia's national floral emblem
 * September 3- Federal referendums on 4-year terms, recognition of local Government and other issues is defeated in Australia.
 * September 11 - Comic strip One Big Happy debuts in newspapers
 * November 17 - The Netherlands becomes the second country to get connected to the Internet.
 * December 3 - Date of a claimed apparition of the Blessed Virgin Mary to Estela Ruiz in South Phoenix, Arizona
 * December 8 - "Here Come the Muppets" debuts at Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida.
 * December 19 - The Consumer Product Safety Commission bans the sale of lawn darts following the deaths of three children.
 * "Unknown": Singer Fish leaves the band Marillion to pursue a solo career.
 * "Unknown": Mickey Sadoff is elected president of Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

I found this commented out
should the top few even be here
 * Shefali Chowdhury, British actress
 * Mark Davies, British footballer
 * Delanie Fitzpatrick, American actress
 * Deepika Padukone, Indian actress
 * Ateqeh Rajabi, Iranian child offender (executed 2004)
 * Alejandro Ramirez, Costa Rica chess player
 * Laura Ross, American chess player
 * Everlyn Sampi, Australian actor
 * Michael Shabaz, American tennis player
 * Tempest Smith, American religious discrimination victim (d.2001)
 * Star Wars kid, Canadian internet celebrity
 * June 30 - Sean Marquette, American actor

//Betacommand (talk • contribs • Bot) 21:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

10 September
Carlos Salinas de Gortari elected President of Mexico.. Please add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.240.200 (talk) 07:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

22 June
Jesse Ed Davis, famed session musician who recorded with the likes of John Lennon, George Harrison, Eric Clapton and countless others dies of drug overdose in a California laundry room.

22 March
William Shatner is born March 22, 1931. Someone please add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedfones (talk • contribs) 07:25, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * He is listed in the Births section of the 1931 article. This is the 1988 article. He's alive, so he so he shouldn't be listed here. Best name (talk) 05:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow I'm retarded, my bad. Hedfones (talk) 16:38, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

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Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Premier Gorbachev?
When Gorbachev was a premier?--2A02:2168:83F:81A7:0:0:0:1 (talk) 08:38, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Lazy writing leading to vague statement; needs clarification
"Thousands riot in Algiers, Algeria against the National Liberation Front government; by October 10 the army has tortured and killed about 500 people in crushing the riots." were the 500 tortured and killed or were there more than 500 tortured but only 500 were killed; were they killed on thr spot or died later from their injuries.2605:E000:9143:7000:8137:276C:2FA4:A843 (talk) 07:52, 27 December 2017 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion
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Eclipses
See WT:YEARS for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2021
José J. Coello (talk) 22:40, 17 June 2021 (UTC)I want to add Colleen Moore picture on deceases on January 25.
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Please provide an image that is free of any copyright issues and has a compatible license. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:50, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Collage
Since my original collage was taken down, I would like to hear everyone's thoughts about what pictures/events should or should not be included. I wish to see a collage restored as soon as possible. The ganymedian (talk) 22:28, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

UN IPCC established 1988
Can someone please add the December 6 formal adoption by the UN of the IPCC on December 6, 1988? On that day the UN "Endorses the action of the World Meteorological Organization and UNEP in jointly establishing an Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change." There is a UN document confirming this located here: https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/54234 RPeel (talk) 07:27, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Collage depreciation
At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Years, a discussion on whether to depreciate collages in general in going on. Please share your thoughts.--Marginataen (talk) 21:42, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:1986

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:48, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Trimming the births
I'd agree with this as a move - looking at the Category:1986 births, there are a lot of people with articles born in this year already, if we were to list all of them then the list would become unwieldy, and dominate the article. Average Earthman 10:22, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Non-world events
TheMidnighters reverted my edit of putting Sir Alex Ferguson's appointment as Manchester United manager. His explanation was that it was a non world event. Well first of all that is false. Manchester United have an estimated 80 million fans around the globe. Secondly it is no regular hire, he is still the manager of Manchester United 20 years later and he's been the most successful manager in the history of English football. Finally if his hiring isn't a 'world event' then neither is the Chicago Bears defeating the New England Patriots in the Superbowl of January 1986. Is a world event also considered when some serial killer gets convicted in November or December (I can't remember which month it was)? I'm going to put his hiring back up, please respond below if you disagree before reverting again. --Tocino
 * Manager of a team that has regularly been the richest football team in the world (Deloitte reports, google for them, I can't be bothered), success in the Champions League, popularity worldwide. I'd say that keeps it. Certainly more of a globally notable event than a very US-only sport such as American Football (how many non-Americans played in the 1986 superbowl?). Average Earthman 12:32, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The 1986 article is mainly for global political or disastrous events with a few exceptions. For something like a notable hire, trade and other sports events, it can go in 1986 in sport or, for football specifically, 1986 in football (soccer), articles which were made to suit facts like this. I hope you would agree that even though his hiring is a world sporting event, it does not suit the purpose of the main 1986 list. What's the point of having those articles if nobody uses them for what they're made for? I've added the Ferguson hiring to both articles and think that both the hire and the Super Bowl results should be removed from this list. --TM 12:44, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * To be fair Steaua Bucuresti winning the European Cup should be deleted if the other sporting news are. I will delete it shortly. Argentina winning the World Cup however that's a world event, so I will leave it be. --Tocino 17:37, 10 July 2006
 * I agree completely with the World Cup results staying, it being one of those exceptions. --TM 01:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
 * A manager being a appointed isn't an event of world importance, even if that team has millions of glory-hunting fans in many countries. It doesn't change anything in itself. It doesn't affect world events like a country electing a new leader or a war being started. Jim Michael (talk) 12:31, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

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Copyrighted material from this year will be copyrighted for DECADES, possible even into the next century. 108.66.234.28 (talk) 00:14, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Well, copyright laws are about 99% horseshit. Why the fuck not have a picture of Chernobyl?

Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:09, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

STS - 51L
The article's thumbnail is not appropriate. Please find a POSITIVE event that happened in 1986. Sausagea1000 (talk) 22:57, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

 * The article does not have a thumbnail. Maybe you are viewing through some sort of third party App that automatically takes the first image on the page and uses it as a thumbnail? If so, I don't think that is an issue for us.
 * Anyway, the images are not there to be positive. They are there to show what happened that year. The Challenger disaster was in January so that puts it near the top. It isn't the worst event to get a picture. Many more people died a much nastier death in the Chernobyl disaster, which is also shown. Both events are very major ones for that year and including both images seems reasonable to me. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:11, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

How about you put the Chernobyl disaster as the thumbnail? Sausagea1000 (talk) 00:56, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The Challenger explosion was a notable event that happened in January. As such, we put a photo of it near the top. (The designation "thumbnail" has nothing to do with where it is, only its size.) Whether the event was "positive" in your mind or not is immaterial. That you wish to minimize the Challenger deaths and offer the Chernobyl deaths in their place is... interesting, in a disturbing way. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 06:44, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

What do you even mean? Sausagea1000 (talk) 15:11, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I reverted your change. You changed a valid image to one that does not exist so no image was showing. Please get consensus here before changing the image. The image of the Challenger explosion is appropriate for the location. - GB fan 16:28, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I was trying to put the Chernobyl disaster as the thumbnail Sausagea1000 (talk) 19:05, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

 * "Thumbnail" does not mean main image, top image or anything like that. It means the image is fairly small.

 * The Challenger explosion image is first because the explosion happened in January. The photo is next to January.

 * The Chernobyl disaster is further down next to "April" because the disaster happened in April. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 22:03, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Look SummerPhD 2.0 where is your operator? Sausagea1000 (talk) 22:58, 30 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I am a person. I don't have an "operator". - Sum mer PhD v2.0 01:05, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

You are a bot. Sausagea1000 (talk) 01:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Why do you think SummerPhDv2.0 is a bot? All bots on Wikipedia have bot in their user name. - GB fan 01:28, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

The v2.0 at the end of his/her name. SummerPhD might be a third - party bot that is being used to commit vandalism on Wikipedia. Sausagea1000 (talk) 02:15, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Summer is a person. Originally named SummerPhD. Lost the password to the account and created a new account. Had a different name for a while and then renamed to SummerPhDv2.0, as this is the 2nd account. SummerPhDv2.0 is not doing vandalism. - GB fan 02:21, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Anyway, can someone please put the Chernobyl disaster as the thumbnail? Sausagea1000 (talk) 14:54, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Before anyone can do anything you need to explain what you want better. There is an image of Chernobyl in the article in the appropriate time period of the year. It soup be inappropriate to put it near January as it happened in April. If you saw the Challenger picture somewhere attached to a blurb about this article that is not decided upon here. If you just want the Chernobyl picture at the top you will need to explain why it belongs at the top and the Challenger picture does not. - GB fan 15:35, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I'd just like to back up what GB Fan is saying. There are at least three genuine human beings scratching their heads and trying to understand what it is that you want to achieve and why.
 * I don't understand why you think that the first image on the page is special. It really isn't. It not a thumbnail for the whole page. It is just the first image on the page. If you are using some sort of browser or app that treats the first image on a page as a thumbnail for that whole page then please understand that this is being done by the browser or app, not by Wikipedia, and so we can't do anything about that.
 * Please also understand that the event images are in chronological order and are meant to line up (approximately) with the month that the event happened so swapping them around would only mess things up. --DanielRigal (talk) 16:00, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Ok, if everyone thinks that I am using a third-party app or browser, I am using Silk Browser. Sausagea1000 (talk) 16:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I don't know what to think. I am trying to understand why you are calling the Challenger picture, the article thumbnail and why you want to change it to an image already used in the article. You don't seem to want to tell us. - GB fan 16:30, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

The reason I want to change the article's thumbnail is because the thumbnail is of a negative event. I would like a positive event to be shown. Sausagea1000 (talk) 16:42, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I have never heard of Silk Browser, so I don't know if it is the cause of confusion here, but I am pretty certain that it is nothing to do with the article or with Wikipedia itself so I suggest we end this here. There is no point discussing the article's thumbnail when there is no thumbnail to discuss. The Challenger picture is just the first image on the page. That is all. --DanielRigal (talk) 16:46, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * In addition to what Daniel said, how is Chernobyl positive? The largest nuclear accident ever is not a positive event. - GB fan 17:09, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I just found silk browser, it is the native browser for the Amazon kindle fire. - GB fan 18:08, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

OK OK OK! Just find a positive event that happened in 1986, and put it as the thumbnail! Sausagea1000 (talk) 18:14, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

 * I think I finally figured out what you are talking about. You are probably in the mobile view of the article since you are on an Amazon kindle fire tablet. I just looked at the article in mobile view and see that the Challenger picture is the only one that shows when the article is first opened. It is above the lead for the article. In the actual article (non mobile version) the image is dosh aways, not at the top of the article. It is not intended as the image to denote the article. There must be some kind of coding in the mobile version that takes the first image and puts it at the top of the article above the lead. If you have a suggestion for an image of an event that happened in January to put at the top we can consider it. We are not going to just move some image from later in the year to the top because you don't like the one that is there. - GB fan 20:20, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

The only reason I am viewing on a mobile device is because my computer is broken. Sausagea1000 (talk) 20:40, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I have a request for you. Open the article and then go all the way to the bottom and you should see a link to desktop. Click the link, it will take you to what we are seeing when we look at the article. This will show you went we are confused about what you are asking. - GB fan 21:10, 31 December 2016 (UTC)

Meh. Ill just buy a new computer. Sausagea1000 (talk) 01:05, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Guys where are you?( Sausagea1000 (talk) 14:38, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Where on earth are you? Sausagea1000 (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

OK. Sausagea1000 (talk) 15:18, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

Where are you? Sausagea1000 (talk) 07:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Who are you talking to? Why are you asking? I am not sure exactly what you are looking for. - GB fan 10:32, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Everyone. Now, get the admins to close the conversation. Sausagea1000 (talk) 16:35, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Three editors have tried to explain why this should not be changed. An admin,, collapsed the discussion saying there was nothing to do here unless you have another image to discuss. You went ahead and tried to make the change again any way.

 * Let me summarize: The consensus here is to NOT change the top photo (that you keep calling the "thumbnail"). If you still think it should be changed, you will probably want to start a request for comments. I kinda doubt you're going to convince anyone, but you can try. Other than that, we seem to be done here. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 04:37, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

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What does this comment in the Deaths section mean?

 * Please do not remove your image through quadrouple image yourself, non-notable people, fictional character or without Wikipedia articles to the lists. No red links, Please! Thanks!

I removed the comment marks to make the comment display. I am having trouble understanding "remove your image through quoadrouple image". And if this was vandalised from "please do not add", then why is there "yourself"? Does anyone think it is possible for anyone to add their own death to Wikipedia? J I P | Talk 00:37, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Apparently it was added in this edit on 11 September 2017. J I P  | Talk 12:04, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2021
why is there a line about a Polish singer that makes no sense? 2A02:1812:243B:A800:1057:2909:255B:70B1 (talk) 17:42, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
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Collage
If people are in favor of a photo collage as seen from '87-2022, I would like to hear some consensus on thoughts about what images should be included in it. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

 * @Jim Michael 2 Gonna post a rough draft of the collage. Feel free to give any ideas for replacing Iran-Contra, as I know that may be a domestic matter The ganymedian (talk) 23:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:1984

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:50, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Earth -> Mars
Something for BJAODN perhaps?

Friday, May 11, 1984 - A transit of Earth from Mars takes place; no one is there to observe it.

Removal of huge amount of content
I just reverted the removal of huge amounts of content from this page by an anon IP. I checked a few and found that they should not be removed. Any comments? - Tεx  τ  urε  20:25, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Trimming the Births section
I feel there is absolutely no need to have names in the births section with no description, as this merely duplicates the category 1984 births, and wastes time for people wanting to look at the main year. I've pruned it, but only gently for now - so I've removed 17th placed archers from the last Olympics, but left actresses in major channel soap operas (although I hate soap operas). I've also not touched the Chinese and Korean singers, as I'd have no idea if they're famous or not. Average Earthman 19:13, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Calendar box
I'm removing the calendar box ( template ) since it's not needed (links to dates already exist) and it hurts the layout of the page. --Mihai 04:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a world event?
Feel that browsing through the years there is a slight bias towards entertainment in terms of US performers, artists etc. Is Hulkmania a world event? How important was Michael Jackson burning his hair really? MitchellStirling 03:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Neither are. Also, Hulk (and all sport events) should go in 1984 in sports, likewise for Jackson (and all music events) in 1984 in music. This article mainly lists "world events". Although I'm not sure there's a strict definition for what this constitutes, the two examples you listed definitely don't qualify, feel free to remove/move similar content. --TM 12:42, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The most important sports and music events can be listed here too but these two don't sound important enough to me, but that is just my oppinion. Jeltz talk  14:32, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I think that things like the Olympics, the FIFA World Cup belong in these year summaries as well as events that surpass the importance of sport such as The Hillsborough Disaster. A list of Super Bowl winners, Rugby World Cup winner and FA cup Final's belong in the year in sport. Likewise the music in these summaries should be things like Sgt Pepper's or other large sellers or highly regarded albums or evernts like Woodstock. No offence to Kylie Minogue but details of her career belong in music not world events. Again just my thoughts. MitchellStirling 16:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
 * The listing of Van Halen's album release (January 9) should be in Music, not the world event page. Mitchdxx (talk) 01:48, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Air Jordan shoes
Folks, I've twice today reverted an edit noting the release of Air Jordan shoes. feel free to correct me but I don't see that the release of a shoe brand is a notable event on a worldwide stage - Peripitus (Talk) 01:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * hmm... while I would normally agree with you, I think the Air Jordan is probably one of the more notable shoe models, as far as a single "model" of shoe goes... - Adolphus79 02:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * shoes, what the heck is so important about shoes, I don't see any reason why it should get the same amount of attention as say, Iran and Iraq etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.156.187 (talk) 15:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Publishing of a book
I was just wondering why the publication of a book (in this case Neuromancer ) isn't a significant event (I added this to July and it was reverted). Is the argument that there are too many books published in any given year? It seems that some books are more significant than others. jamesjbrownjr 18:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The main year articles are not for listing publishings of books, film/video game releases, or sports events etc. There are separate articles created and devoted to list those events so the main year articles don't become too large and cluttered. For 1984, there is 1984 in literature where Neuromancer is already listed. --TM 19:35, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Thanks for the help. jamesjbrownjr 19:46, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Actually, shouldn't large publications, e.g. The Davinci Code, be listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.156.187 (talk) 15:45, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No, because they're not important international events. Jim Michael (talk) 23:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Asgard
I am currently reading the Iron Heel, a Jack London dystopian novel. At page 193, there is the mention of Asgard, a fictional wonder city, that is completed. If there are any issues with this, please alert them to me. I found it a bit coincidential that year is mentioned in that particular novel, espicially since it was cited to be an influence of Nineteen Eighty Four

Weasel words
"February 9 - Disclosure of remarks by Jesse Jackson, considered anti-Semitic by some, hurt his presidential campaign."

CalendarWatcher, can you please explain how these are not weasel words? Please read WP:WEASEL before replying. Your reversion of my edits (without explanation or defense of your perspective) doesn't address my objection to the wording above. 76.24.10.35 (talk) 01:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

You have it backwards: you declared them to be 'weasel words', so the burden is on you to demonstrate as such. So please don't play games in furtherance of an agenda. --CalendarWatcher (talk) 01:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

 * Have you read WP:WEASEL? I'm not being uncivil by using the term weasel words - it's a Wikipedia policy used to describe words such as those above.  Since this is also a biography of a living person, the burden is clearly on you to explain why "considered anti-Semitic by some" doesn't constitute weasel words.  Who are these "some"?  You removed my  tag without explanation.  The only agenda here is that the article be clear on who it is referring to.  76.24.10.35 (talk) 01:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Request for comment - WP:WEASEL
Yes this "considered anti-Semitic by some" is considered weasel words and has already been removed.. I suggest closing this RFC. Garycompugeek (talk) 22:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Michael Jackson's hair
Is the line on January 27 really needed? Maybe we should include every time he got the flu or all of his mistakes while rehearsing. It seems Wikipedia didn't use to accept these kind of trivia...--Fluence (talk) 19:41, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Dead link
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Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Relevance
Of course, I'm being subjective here, but still... The vast majority of people listed under births are very minor media "celebrities", most of whom I've never heard of. Ate these people really notable enough to get a mention? And if so, are there really no 30 year olds in other fields (eg politics, science, etc) who are notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.173.213.69 (talk) 23:31, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Mitsui Miike Coal Mine disaster
This needs to be cited, because I'm pretty sure that this never happened. I know an explosion happened here in 1963 but I can't find any source citing another disaster in 1984

Hatnote error
The link in the hatnote to 1984 (number) is not actually about the number. It redirects to the disambiguation page. Mywalnut (talk) 22:38, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Collage
If people are in favor of a photo collage as seen from '87-2022, I would like to hear some consensus on thoughts about what images should be included in it. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:1983

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:50, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Using birth year
Should we include the birth year after the name under 'Deaths'? I don't think we should but if we do it should be consistent. Tkessler 03:27, Feb 16, 2005 (UTC)
 * In the Deaths section of all year articles, it is standard practice for the birth year to be after the name of the deceased. Best name (talk) 01:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Notable?
The current version includes this phrase:
 * 'October 24 - Arthur Hutchinson kills three members of Laitner family and rape their daughter in the Sheffield suburb of Dore.'

Is there really a notable enough event to list in the month's timeline for 1983? Hutchinson doesn't even have his own wiki page. I will remove it unless there are objections. Tkessler 16:58, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

 * December 24 - Cold temperatures break December records throughout U.S. east of Rockies. Sioux Falls, SD low temperature -23F with 60 mph winds. Avg. temp for December in Twin Cities was 3.5 degrees from another source. S.F. high temp on the 24th: -13F. Yea, memorably cold. And a lot of those records weren't broken by just a few degrees, they were shattered, 10-20 degrees colder. --71.38.171.100 (talk) 04:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

"Majestry"
I suspect "majestry" is a typo, but I'm not sure for what. Maybe "magistracy"? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:41, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

Hendrix song
What about people who are looking for the Jimi Hendrix track 1983 (A Merman I should Turn To Be)? Should a link to the Electric Ladyland album be included at the top of the page?

And one more thing...
what about the novel "1983"? Surely you need to at least put something down...[nowiki]~[/nowiki]^v^ [[User:orngjce223|my home page[[Talk:orngjce223|my talk page]]]] 13:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Annoyed about people adding their birthday?
To whoever verifies the content of this page, do you get annoyed when people edit the page to add their birthday or do you just delete the entry and it's not a big deal? It's not inaccurate inforamation, but it's not exactly noteworthy either... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.147.58.6 (talk • contribs).

 * If it's a redlink or unlinked, they get deleted. As with all cases, leave either a uw-test1 or uw-joke1 on the talk page of the contributor. --Sigma 7 22:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Chicken McNugget
$$[[Media:Insert formula here]]$$ FYI, this says the McNugget was introduced in 1983, but the page for it says (uncited) 1980. Simonbean101 (talk) 18:48, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Simon

Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Autonomous communities of Spain
In the article we can read: "March 1 – The Balearic Islands and Madrid become Autonomous communities of Spain.". In fact this is not correct. In that date was approved, so entered into force, the "Estatuto de la Comunidad de Madrid". An "Estatuto", in Spain, is law similar to a country constitution but with lower range than Spanish Constitution. In fact, all Autonomous Comunities already existed before their "Estatuto de autonomía" approvals. Let me make you note too, that in the case of the Balearic Islands, this date was February 25 of the same year (not 1st March). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jordi collbato (talk • contribs) 11:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

DC Williams
Arthur Rubin recently removed Donald Cary Williams from the deaths section on the basis that he isn't important enough. I reverted, he's reverted back, so I ought to provide some explanation of why I disagree with the removal of the late Professor Williams from this listing of deaths.

Within philosophy, I would assert that Williams is important. He named a current and growing field of inquiry—trope theory—and made seminal contributions to the discussion thereof. In philosophy, naming and demarcating a problem is quite important—it makes the problem distinct and expands our ability to think about it as an independent problem. His work has been cited by pretty much everyone who works on tropes or the problem of universals, including philosophers like David Malet Armstrong (Australian), Keith Campbell (also Australian), Fraser McBride (British), David Lewis (American) and J.P. Moreland (American), to pick a few random examples from my memory. While this is of limited interest to many, within the philosophical sub-field of metaphysics, his work is regarded as having been novel, important and significant.

I'd also argue that if we are to engage in nitpicking over some kind of notability or importance test on year listings like this, we probably ought to have some kind of more detailed and consensus-based standard that can be applied before stuff gets summarily removed. —Tom Morris (talk) 07:24, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, there is a stated consensus that a person needs to have international importance (which you seem to have justified, but which I haven't checked), and an implied consensus that the Wikipedia article needs to be better than a stub, which hasn't happened yet. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 22:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
 * Arthur Rubin, just curious: where is this consensus stated? —Tom Morris (talk) 23:02, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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Eclipses
See WT:YEARS for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:10, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

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Collage
If people are in favor of a photo collage as seen from '87-2022, I would like to hear some consensus on thoughts about what images should be included in it. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:32, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Error?
It says with no citation that 1983 was the year of the first mobile cellular phone call. But 1973 says, with citation, that the first handheld mobile phone call was made by Martin Cooper of Motorola in New York City on April 3, 1973. Is this article wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.142.186.201 (talk) 20:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:1981

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:51, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Wheel of Fortune
Wheel of Fortune links to the disambiguation page. I'm not sure which article the link should link to, so someone else needs to change the link. -- VGF11 01:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Table of contents
...Why is the table of contents on the bottom of the page? Batsofdoom 00:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Jacob Stewart
Hello. I removed this entry: 'December 9 - Jacob Stewart, St. Thomas based songwriter/guitarist'

The link was to a former MN Representative instead of a songwriter. I found no article on the songwriter. If I'm mistaken or confused (which I usually am), please fix it. Thanks! Apparition11 (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 08:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Eclipses
See WT:YEARS for a matter relevant to this page. Arthur Rubin (alternate) (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Collage
If people are in favor of a photo collage as seen from '87-2022, I would like to hear some consensus on thoughts about what images should be included in it. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

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Talk:1980

Format
26-June-2007: The years 1900-1999 got a condensed Table of Contents after 28May07. See Talk:1950 (and "Talk:1950"). -Wikid77 22:34 26-June-2007

2004 page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:52, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Benjamin Lee
I am removing the line in the Births section for Benjamin Lee (who is described as merely "unique"). This was added with the comment "updated birthday catalogue to include myself ?You will see!" However, Benjamin Lee is about a Hawai'ian politician, who, judging from the photograph, is not 24 years old.--Clipdude 07:29, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * It was just an ordinary person adding himself, as happens every day on some article or other. Benjamin Lee is a disambiguation page. Lkjhgfdsa 0 (talk) 17:50, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Qualifications for inclusion
I'm just curious how some of these people qualify for inclusion in 1980 when they obviously died (and were born) long before 1980. For example, Joseph Smith, Jr. is listed in the June deaths, but he died back in 1844 or so (according to the page on him). Don't the listing here have to have something to do with the year? --nihon 01:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd say, Go ahead and delete such things when you see them, leaving a note in the edit summary. They're either obvious errors (someone doesn't get how this works) or subtle vandalism, and either way, they should be fixed. Lawikitejana 17:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Unreferenced tag
I see soomeone tagged this page as unreferenced - I don't think that makes much sense, and I have accordingly removed the tag. We have a pretty strict policy that events mentioned here should have an article of their own, and ideally that article should be referenced and verifiable. Adding a reference for every single event/birth/death on what is essentially a "list of..." article would become extremely unwieldy and make the article very, very large. If there are legitimate concerns about specific entries on the page, bring them up here (or, in the case of an unreferenced/redlinked birth, just remove them as very probable vandalism/vanity) -- Ferkelparade π 14:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Copyright problem removed
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Mugabe
There's currently a conflict between two items:

 * 4 March – Robert Mugabe is elected Prime Minister of Zimbabwe.
 * 18 April – Zimbabwe gains independence from the United Kingdom; Robert Mugabe becomes Prime Minister.

The correct date of Mugabe's election needs to be identified. — Hex    (❝ ?!  ❞)   10:27, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

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Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Commonwealth Trade Union Council = New Page Stub is In Sandbox
Here is the link to the page - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandbox&oldid=510356794. I will get someone to log in to create it if someone else won't do it first. Thanks in advance. 75.84.200.25 (talk) 00:24, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
 * OK submitted here as of now it is in review. Thanks to everyone for all the help on this one. 75.84.200.25 (talk) 15:38, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

"First year of the 1980s decade"? Wrong.
1980 was the last year of the 1970s decade, as the ancients had no such number or concept as zero, which by world standards is actually pretty recent. It stands to reason, then, that if, say, 10A.D. is the last year of the oughts A.D., 11A.D. is thus the first year of the 10s A.D., etc., all the way to 2010 and 2011A.D., the last year of the 2000sA.D. and first year of the 2010sA.D. I believe a small tweak to this article is in order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ADg2k14 (talk • contribs) 06:03, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * 1980 was the last year of the eighth decade of the 20th century, sure, but it was the first year of the 1980s because we're talking about two different things. -- Irn (talk) 16:41, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes. If it has "80" in it it's in the 1980's. And if not, then it isn't. This is not a mathematical question. Britmax (talk) 17:48, 25 May 2016 (UTC)

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Collage
If people are in favor of a photo collage as seen from '87-2022, I would like to hear some consensus on thoughts about what images should be included in it. Thanks The ganymedian (talk) 22:33, 8 October 2022 (UTC)

Births and deaths no longer in article?
I noticed that in articles about years from 1980 onward, births and deaths have been removed and replaced with links to the relevant categories. The edit summaries are all along the lines of "Cleanup per passed RfC" with no further elaboration. What was this RfC and where can I find the rationale for it? Hominid77777 (talk) 18:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Update: I found the discussion (from the 2013 edit summary):
 * https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=1144165042#
 * Given that the consensus was to split, it seems odd that the content was removed altogether rather that split into separate articles. I'm not sure where the appropriate place for this discussion is. Hominid77777 (talk) 18:34, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

 * Deleting the information entirely seems very bad, and the only rationale is that some articles were too long? How is one supposed to easily find “Born on this day” information? --scruss (talk) 11:11, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

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Talk:1978

Page layout years
There is a discussion on my talk page on page layout.

For most of the last three hundred years there is inconsistency and duplication between the year in topic paragraph, the "see also" box and what is on the year by topic pages. Prior to 1950 I am pretty convinced we can painlessly (except for sore fingers) delete all of the year in topic paragraphs and ensure that the material goes into a "see also" box, creating such a box where none exists. Post 1950, particularly from the "year in US television" link a lot of material has been added to this paragraph as highlights (sometimes making up most of the page content pointed at).

Personally I think we should still delete the paragraph, keep the box linking to the topic sites and move any particularly important parts of the year in topic paragraph to the main chronological list. This does involve undoing quite a bit of work which someone has done.

Therefore, unlike for prior to 1950 (where I've said no objection= I do it) for post 1950 I won't touch these pages unless a significant number of people agree with the change. (I am also unlikely to get the pre 1950 stuff done before summer unless the service speed improves dramatically). talk--BozMo 13:57, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Statistics
How about adding a section on statistics to each year?

Ex: Cost of a stamp. Us/World population. US Govt Budget, Etc.

I'd be happy to aggregate the information, does anyone know where these facts already exist? (almanac, etc?) -D

 * Only important info for the whole world would be useful; the population would be the most important thing to add. Jim Michael (talk) 15:51, 2 January 2022 (UTC)

 * Timothy budbill phx az gov name don't know my real o.e can someone e in the white house help there clean air and water act in 1978 sighned by President to test quality air and water and k.ow a whole lot more like nuclear missiles I have access to every piece of go ferment history of planet 1d 2d 3d Vietnam veterans babra berry larry budbill my family why am I paying g for my family's mistakes what did they do to this state everyday I get mi.ipulated in letti.g down secret documents by being g bullied or or just fucki.g kill me already so this red button gets pushed thanks Garry and David barney I love e you Hillary stop buying g kids with my bitcoi. 2600:1011:A12E:C46A:60C3:F030:8F9:8BEC (talk) 06:39, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, we have no bananas
I feel like a doofus even having to raise this, but...''The President of the Mexican town of Coacalaco, José Ramon del Cuet, is forced to eat 12 pounds of bananas and then resign. '' This can't be true...can it? What's 'the President' of a Mexican town? Why can't I find any reference to this on the net except copies of the text here? I hope it's true, but somehow...I have my doubts. Peeper 20:48, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Sporting events
I am relatively new to Wikipedia, but teams winning championships are found on the Wikipedia sites of many other years Kruse56 14:55, 9 October 2006 (UTC)Kruse56
 * Well they shouldn't be. Most sporting events should go in each year's sports article, which were created to suit that very purpose. For 1978, that article is 1978 in sports. --TM 17:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Papal numbering?
Isn't John Paul I & John Paul II, the 263rd & 264th popes? GoodDay 22:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I've corrected the mistaken edits. GoodDay 23:50, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sad day for the world?
Note on October 30. Who is Murti and just why is it a sad day for the world? This looks like an opinion entry on that date. Leandar 16:22, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Ridiculous
I cannot believe that because I edited out UNIMPORTANT entries, which are ALL pop culture, and BELONG in respective areas, like FILM/MUSIC/TV in 1978..people may have felt "slighted" instead of maybe learning a lesson...can anyone really claim that "The Star Wars Holiday Special" is meritable as plane crashes and murders? No, to a 15th generation fan who wasn't even born when the damn thing originally aired, it's important...CHRIST, does the year 2007 have on it "Paris Goes To Jail"? I bet it does...we live in a real sad world today people, where REAL news is blurred with fake meaningless crap that belongs on POP CULTURE ENTRIES... --69.238.75.35 23:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Tito
I guess June 23 entry ("Josip Broz Tito is named Yugoslav president for life") may be wrong, quoting from Josip Broz Tito itself:

"On May 16, 1974, the new Constitution was passed, and Josip Broz Tito was named President for life."

bye --213.156.55.134 (talk) 08:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

The birth year of Jay-Z?
This article lists Jay-Z as being born on December 4, 1978. I believe his correct date of birth is December 4, 1969. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.11.95.16 (talk) 01:26, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Where's August?
Hmm, didn't anything notable happen in August 1978? GoodDay (talk) 20:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Permission to edit
The Korean 2004 film 'Once Upon a Time in High School' takes place in 1978. Is it okay if this info is added to the article? 99.229.240.10 (talk) 00:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

September 11
The final death from smallpox.98.238.116.225 (talk) 21:45, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Superbowl
Should the Superbowl be included for this year? Centralized discussion at WT:YEARS — Arthur Rubin (talk) 17:10, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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Why do the monthly sub-devisions of year articles in the 20th century end with 1978?
There are separate pages for all of the months of every year from 1900 to 1977, but they abruptly end with October 1977. Why? Is this still a work in progress? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 19:16, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

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