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Talk:2024

Artemis 2
I think NASA is launching Artemis 2 in May 2024, is that event significant enough to be put on this page? InjectableBacon (talk) 18:13, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Actually it's been pushed back to November. But should definitely be included if/when the mission happens. It'll be the closest humans have come to the Moon since the early 1970s. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Agreed.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:52, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It's also been pushed back to 2025, so maybe on that page? (also artemis iii should go on the 2026 page) 2600:8802:3A0B:3000:2CCD:AD72:18E2:C2B9 (talk) 23:19, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Date format
I would like to suggest changing the date format of this article to the DMY format (e.g. 6 June 2020 as opposed to June 6, 2020). The DMY format seems more international and more suitable for a "global" article like. Also DMY simply makes more sense as it goes from smallest to highest.

At the village pump, I've presented a proposal to establish a standard to use DMY in general for all articles about "generic" years. The discussion got kind of messy however, and I'll propaly restart it at some point. In the meantime, I would like it to create consensus about changing 2024 specifically as well as all other nine articles about the 2020s to the DMY format.--Marginataen (talk) 08:41, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm pasting the same reply at all the 2020s talk page sections on this topic, with the exception of 2023. As of about a month ago, we had a situation in which all generic year articles had a consistent date format. Since both date styles are considered appropriate per the Manual of Style, it's unusual to see such solid consistency. Since I value consistency, I appreciated that rare situation.
 * As of last month, only 2023 was changed via local consensus to be different than the rest. If this proposal passes for this article, it would join a tiny minority of articles that do not match the overall consistent style. I oppose for that reason.
 * I would be fine with all generic year articles changing to consistently use a different style, and that is the proposal on the table at WP:VPR. Currently, it seems we're at the tail end of a pre-RfC discussion with plans to move forward with an RfC in the next week or so. I would much prefer to keep discussing the overarching change rather than have individual discussions at each year article. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 13:07, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I do think it is important to change 2024 as it is the year to come and will probably begin before we get to be done with that discussion about all articles. Marginataen (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

After a week with no but one invalid objection, I've changed the format. The objection is invalid because there is no established consensus on using the same format across articles but only within articles. That is exactly what I'll be trying to do in the comming weeks, but until then the argument there is none and the objection invalid. I will not repost this reply across articles, only here on 2024, so please response here.--Marginataen (talk) 14:42, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * , you can't unilaterally declare my objection invalid. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 14:54, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * MOS:DATEVAR requires consensus to change from an established style., it is clear that you do not yet have consensus. Please self-revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I didn't just do it. I explained to you why it's the case. Why do you think your objection is valid when consistency across year articles has never been agreed upon? That fact was pretty much the only thing we got out of latest RfC Marginataen (talk) 15:15, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * We haven't done any RfC, and we paused starting it on your request. There are many valid reasons to want a particular date format. MOS:DATEVAR does not comment on what rationales are valid or not, nor does any policy I'm aware of. You can disagree with my rationale, but deciding that it is invalid and then edit warring based on that decision is disruptive. Please self-revert. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 15:28, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ohh sorry, I quite obviously meant the discussion itself Marginataen (talk) 20:57, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying that consistency was ever agreed upon. I'm just saying that it is desirable. You are free to think otherwise. As long as there is not consensus for your position, the article should remain at the status quo ante. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 19:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Anyone other have anything to say? Marginataen (talk) 23:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No one answering a talk page discussion is not an argument is not an argument for not making a change. If it was so, all changes could simply he halted by no one engaging in a talk page discussion. Does it really matter that much to you? I will end up making af RfC about it anyway but it just important for 2024 as it will soon be the current year. Marginataen (talk) 01:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
 * is a bit of a double-edged sword, isn't it? I care enough to state my viewpoint (a few times) and help craft an RfC question. If consensus develops against me, I'll be fine. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:43, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

2023 AFC Asian Cup
The tournament will start on January 19, 2024. Shouldn't we add this? Aminabzz (talk) 09:15, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * No, it is a regional sporting event. It is the same reason we don't add the superbowl or the NBA finals. PaulRKil (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Does China's Patriotic Education Law merit an entry?
Personally I oppose  this as an entry, as there is no article for this law, it appears to be a purely domestic event, and its topic (education) usually doesn't merit entries on articles about years--there's no article for [years] in education.

This was the entry: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:06, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * China Patriotic Education Law will take effect
 * It doesn't. It appears to not even have an article so why would it ever be included. I'm starting to think we need to semi-protect the article. It seems every time we approach the new year that IP editors show up and put poorly sourced or outright bizarre entries. PaulRKil (talk) 18:41, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Domestic law changes are commonplace & they're rarely important enough for main year articles. Junior, local, domestic & regional competitions are also often wrongly added. A host leaving a game show was added, before being removed. Things such as those, which are nowhere near important enough, are often added to main year articles. X2023X (talk) 01:24, 2 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

When does the article become present tense?
As of writing it is 8:35am UTC+2. I believe the first places to enter 2024 will cross over in 4 hours and 25 minutes from now. Will the 'January 1st' section become present/past tense when this happens? PrecariousWorlds (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter particularly much, a 24 hour window is quite small and any timezone error is insignificant. —Panamitsu (talk) 07:10, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Calendars
this https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024 has a nice feature (a list of what year it is in different calendars) that is absent from the present article can we get some sort of cross reference ? or put in the intro this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_calendars which isn't quite as good thanks !! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cinnamon colbert (talk • contribs) 15:42, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The "Year in various calendars" template was removed from Template:C21 year in topic by Johnson524 at 17:11, 14 November 2023. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 19:52, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @GeoffreyT2000: Multiple editors made requests on the C21 year in topic talk page asking to shorten the template in some considerable way: reasons being so that mobile editors don’t have to scroll so much to get to the actual content of ‘year’ articles, and since the template was so long it would often go deep into the body of articles. It was a WP:BOLD edit request for sure, so multiple inquiries were made on multiple WikiProject talk pages over the span multiple months to ask for ideas on how to make this edit happen without losing important content. In the end, there were net zero responses and nobody opposed, so I went ahead with deleting everything but the template’s wikilinks since discussions had gone nowhere. This is the first opposition I’ve heard on this to date, so if you can think of a way to add back the list of year formats in a way they do not interfere with the reasons I said above on why they were originally removed, then go ahead, but discussions about shortening this template had been ongoing for months at this point, and I felt obligated to conclude them somehow. Any feedback is appreciated.  Johnson  524  23:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Centralized discussion for this topic at Template talk:C21 year in topic  Johnson  524  01:33, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 Sea of Japan earthquake
Should we remove the Sea of Japan earthquake entry? I think we should. It only killed 20 people. DementiaGaming (talk) 04:00, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include. 7.6 magnitude isn't a minor quake, and the casualty figure is now almost 50. There is widespread damage to properties. This was Japan's largest earthquake since 2015. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:30, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Borderline exlcude while not minor, context is important. It hit a country that is well prepared to handle earthquakes of that magnitude and the result is much less damage and loss of life compared to the earthquakes of similar magnitude we saw hit in Haiti and Turkey. Similarly, we don't include every Category 4-5 hurricane that hits the United States and causes a lot of damage and inflicts deaths in the dozens because the US is largely prepared to handle such storms. By extension, we should also exclude the plane crash that occurred. PaulRKil (talk) 13:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I have changed my mind. The death toll has risen to 57 people, and although we're not getting an exact number on how expensive it is, it's now probably very, very, costly. Yeah, I think we should include it. DementiaGaming (talk) 16:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree as well to include, but we should still Exclude the related plane crash in my point of view. PaulRKil (talk) 17:29, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The death toll is now 73. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include This is notable event with significant coverage. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 22:13, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

European centric
Why is the euro final down for 14 July, but the Asian and Africa equivalents not mentioned. 80.192.242.40 (talk) 16:23, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * None of them should be as they are not global events like the olympics or the world cup so it will be removed along with the Asian and African events. PaulRKil (talk) 17:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Regional competitions shouldn't be on main year articles. They should be on sub-articles such as 2024 in sports. X2023X (talk) 17:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * They should be mentioned in my humble opinion, pending due weight compliance. They should be on sub-articles such as 2024 in sports – why so? If they receive sufficient coverage to fulfill DUE (which is our inclusion criteria, as opposed to the BS that was international notability), they should be mentioned here.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:51, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Page protection
People are slobbering over this page to the point where people are adding random domestic events that nobody cares about. I propose we protect this page for now until people realize that these events aren't notable enough. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:10, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Yes, it needs to be pending changes protected or semi-protected. A host leaving a game show & YouTuber no longer making videos were added to this article, before being rightly removed. X2023X (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've requested to have the page bumped from semi-protected to extended protected. PaulRKil (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Even if that isn't granted, this page needs semi-protection for this year to prevent vandalism and inexperienced editors from including irrelevant entires. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The page is semi-protected until Friday so if anything happens that warrants it to be protected again, then users can re-submit a request but they won't budge on a higher degree of protection. PaulRKil (talk) 17:11, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Peak editing for year articles is typically late Dec & early Jan, so it'll probably reduce significantly during the next week or so. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose extended-confirmed protection or anything higher. This would unfairly deter new editors and serves the message to others that we assume bad faith. Instead of preventing new editors (or "fans") from contributing as suggested by a previously T-Banned editor on the 2022 talk page, we should welcome then into the discussion and offer them a fair chance to defend their inclusion. For this rationale, I would suggest pending changes protection over semi.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Should we add the Kerman bombings to events?
So far the bombings in Iran killed at least 103 people. Grainmaster132 (talk) 15:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * It should be added but we should wait for more information on what exactly occurred. Entries like this tend to cause charged responses from various sides given the broader context of what is currently going on in the region so it is always best to wait in the initial stages. PaulRKil (talk) 15:28, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I support inclusion because of the high death toll (103 so far), the fact it took place on the anniversary of the assassination of Qasem Soleimani, and received international coverage and reactions. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include, due to high death toll. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 Haneda Airport runway collision and Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung
Should we include the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision and the Attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung to this page? There has been a lot of back and forth about their inclusion.

Outcome will, of course, be honored. PaulRKil (talk) 16:24, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I hope this doesn't come off as canvassing but it feels appropriate to notify the people involved in the edit warring so they may be able to provide their perspective @Heathy94, @DL6443, @DementiaGaming, @X2023X, @sinisreality2023, @MrJaydenfire, @Wikieditor019, @Jake11223344, @Vinicius mad, @Tri Ardiansyah, @Bobertrobert0709, @Indiana6724, @WolfishJT, @ PaulRKil (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

 * I oppose both entries for lacking due weight. The 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision didn't have a high death toll and wasn't a catastrophic incident (i.e. the passengers all survived), so it only merits an entry in 2024 in Japan and not this page. The attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung didn't result in Lee Jae-myung's death (for now) and Lee Jae-myung wasn't a current or former head of state/government. By contrast, the 2022 assassination of Shinzo Abe resulted in Shinzo Abe's death who was a former head of government. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * With all due respect towards your opinion, due weight is defined at WP:DUE as significant viewpoints that have been published by reliable sources, in proportion to the prominence of each viewpoint in those sources. You seem to be using due weight as a word to describe your own opinion on these events' material instinct instead and how to increase the chances of your comment not being seen as an argument, not necessarily in compliance with the policy. Since Japanese events rarely get coverage Stateside, when I hear about disasters happening at Haneda Airport from an NBC news alert on my phone, that's something that I would consider important or deserving of some attention.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 15:06, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I also oppose as both events don't fall into being notable enough for entry in main year articles. Major transportation disasters are normally only included and this event did not result in a catastrophic incident and plane crashes with a larger loss of life have been excluded in the past. If anything, I'd support it briefly being mentioned in the earthquake entry as it appears to be a contributing factor as the coast guard plane was responding to the earthquake.
 * In the case of the assassination attempt, Lee Jae-myung was not a current or former head of state/government and did not succumb to his injuries. For context, the inclusion of the assassination of Shinzo Abe in 2022 was debated because it happened after his premiership as some editors felt only assassinations of incumbents should be included, therefore trying to add an attempt on a non-national non-incumbent political figure wouldn't warrant inclusion in a main year article. PaulRKil (talk) 16:46, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Exclude the Haneda Airport runway collision, due to insufficient notability and low death toll. I am neutral on Lee Jae-myung, but leaning towards exclude. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude both. The death toll of the crash is 5. Transport accidents with similar or higher death tolls happen every day. The stabbing didn't kill anyone. There was only one victim who's never been a head of state/gov. It appears to be a lone wolf attack; there's no indication of the suspect having any international links, nor links to gangs, terrorist groups etc. X2023X (talk) 19:43, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude Haneda Airport collision per ES of previous reverts prior to my self-revert, but support a brief mention in the January 1 earthquake entry per . Neutral on Lee Jae-myung. -- DL 6443 (Talk/Contribs) 21:02, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
 * As a side note, I wasn't aware of the previous reverts when I added the Haneda Airport entry, and hastily self-reverted -- DL 6443 (Talk/Contribs) 21:04, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Include the 2024 Haneda Airport runway collision as part of the 2024 Sea of Japan earthquake section, as one of the planes involved was directly related. Exclude the attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung as the wounds were not fatal. 33ABGirl (talk) 10:19, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I also would just note that an air incident could also be notable for the lack of fatalities as well. US Airways Flight 1549 is notable for that reason. I think for now we keep it mentioned in the earthquake entry but it may be revisited once the investigation continues. There’s a lot of speculation that the fact the plane was made of composite materials played a significant role in the lack of fatalities on the airliner, but nothing official. PaulRKil (talk) 15:49, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include as part of the entry for the earthquake. DUE would govern that given the high amount of coverage from RS's, especially international coverage, we at least acknowledge it here. No opinion on Lee yet, leaning exclude due to lack of ability to find more widespread coverage in US media (though I found a few pieces about it)  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 04:17, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Assassination of Saleh al-Arouri
The assassination of Saleh al-Arouri has been added and removed multiple times. X2023X (talk) 05:13, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude: It appears he isn't a major leader of Hamas and is instead a deputy leader. In my perspective, adding him would be equivalent to adding events for the numerous Russian generals or regional governors that have been killed in the invasion of Ukraine. I also don't think it is a markedly major escalation of the conflict that would warrant inclusion. PaulRKil (talk) 14:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this should be an include considering how much coverage was given on this figure and assassination. We should follow DUE based on coverage, which for the most part (responding in part to Paul) will exclude most random Russian officials during the Ukraine invasion.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:45, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Epstein Island Flight Logs
This is literally some of the biggest news of the whole decade so far, hundreds of public figures are being exposed as paedophiles, and no one is talking about it on this page? Former Presidents are being exposed here! I mean, its just my opinion, yous can tell me what you think. 123WasTaken (talk) 11:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * None of what you said is true. "Hundreds of public figures" is less than a dozen with pretty much all of them not being directly implicated in any wrongdoing. Please read Articles for deletion/Jeffrey Epstein's associates list for more detail. PaulRKil (talk) 12:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, the flight logs were released in 2021 (they've just been circulating again on social media recently). The new info now is just names which were previously redacted in the court proceedings. Not all of them have been accused of any crimes (some are witnesses and victims). – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:14, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
 * The article about it was deleted. The info is vague & most of what's being said is speculation. It's highly-publicised, but not important. X2023X (talk) 18:40, 5 January 2024 (UTC) Blocked sock. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:43, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Hidden text
There was a note at the top of the Events section, only visible when editing, asking editors not to add things which are ineligible for main year articles. It was removed for not having consensus, though I'd say it being there unchallenged was silent consensus. Should the note be reinstated? If not, what's a better way to deter things being frequently added including local/sub-national elections, entertainment events, the personal lives of celebrities, low/zero-death toll accidents, junior/youth/college/local/domestic/regional sports events, local/sub-national elections? Such things being added is the biggest problem on main year articles. X2023X (talk) 17:59, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:BADHIDDENTEXT clearly states that types of hidden text that should not be added include: others not to perform certain edits to a page, unless there is an existing guideline or policy against that edit. 33ABGirl (talk) 18:08, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * There's a consensus to not add the things I mentioned & those which the hidden note included, though I don't know if there's a guideline or policy to that effect.
 * Any ideas regarding trying to reduce the frequency by which such entries are being added? Some of them don't even have articles, such as the train crash in Java & the Jeffrey Epstein list. X2023X (talk) 20:30, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
 * 33ABGirl makes a very strong argument which practically destroys your entire case. I would recommend using a hidden comment phrased as this: "Current consensus does not support the inclusion of event X. If you wish to rediscuss and change consensus, consider starting a new discussion on the talk page first".
 * Btw, as a reminder to all, please do not assume a consensus exists unless you can link and cite specific discussions saying otherwise. One editor engaged in this behavior before and the editor who did so got T-Banned.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 00:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

Should the MNDAA capture of Laukkai be included
On Jan 5 2024, the major scam hub and the capital city of Kokang SAZ, Laukkai in Myanmar was captured fully by the Myanmar National Democratic Alliance Army and was a major defeat for the military junta of Myanmar. Should this be included. Arthur Taksin (talk) 11:01, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Borderline exclude because this page is generally not for providing details about ongoing armed conflicts, even if important, with the main exception of when armed conflicts begin or end. The specific page for the Myanmar Civil War includes the capture of Laukkai in the lead as part of the infobox on the right, and potential readers can just click on the hyperlink in the lead on this page to go to that page. This isn't denying the due weight and importance of the event, but I don't believe this page is best suited for including such details. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @JohnAdams1800 Please provide a discussion where there is consensus that this page is generally not for providing details about ongoing armed conflicts, even if important, with the main exception of when armed conflicts begin or end to support your claim. 33ABGirl (talk) 07:49, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @JohnAdams1800 Could you explain why you tried to strike my question with this edit? Please be aware that this is disruptive editing. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:09, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * @33ABGirl Can you explain why you strike other editors questions as well? I am an editor of the Myanmar Civil War page, and was the one who shrank all the small sections on that page into 4 larger sections. The Myanmar Civil War is still ongoing, with many important details that don't merit inclusion on this page (i.e. the state of Chinland, the siege of Loikaw, the success of Operation 1027, etc.) which is meant for a general overview on 2024, not a place to provide important updates on armed conflicts. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:12, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Those comments I've struck are in accordance WP:SOCKSTRIKE, previously stated to you in this edit. The edit were made by a ban evading sockpuppet, standard practice is to strike the sock's comments. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Please provide a discussion where there is consensus that the page is ...not a place to provide important updates on armed conflicts....? I would think that if a update on a conflict is important, it would belong on this page? 33ABGirl (talk) 17:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I never said that there's a consensus. I was just stating my views for why I believe this entry shouldn't be included, and I included the word "borderline" because I could change my own view if other editors agree. This page, 2024, has space constraints and often has hyperlinks in the lead to direct users to find out additional information on the main pages for events.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:26, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * If we need to go to Dispute resolution requests, so be it. I am now aware of your actions for WP:SOCKSTRIKE, which has been resolved. I added the disagreement to WP:3, instead of it taking up more space here. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 17:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
 * I've removed your addition to WP:3. As mentioned on WP:3, Before making a request here, be sure that the issue has been thoroughly discussed on the article talk page. 3O is only for assistance in resolving disagreements that have come to a standstill. This discussion is perfunctory and has not come to a standstill.
 * I am also uncertain about the reasoning behind your assertion that the discussion should not be taking up more space here. The talk page is where issues on this page should be discussed. 33ABGirl (talk) 05:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
 * To be clear, I am in fact opposed to including this content for similar reasons as you mentioned. My challenge to your response was solely based on the phrasing, which seemed to imply the existence of a consensus that hadn't been established. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude per JohnAdams1800. As there are limitations on this page on the inclusion of events, with this event being part of a larger event which has its own stand-alone timeline, not all milestones for the larger events should be included here. Inclusion of this event over other similarly or more impactful events in the larger even would be WP:UNDUE. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:11, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Does North Korean recognition of South Korea merit inclusion?
I added the following entry:
 * January 15
 * North Korea–South Korea relations: North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un says Korean reunification is "no longer possible" and asks the Supreme People's Assembly to amend the constitution to formally recognize South Korea as a separate country.

I believe it merits entry because the Korean War has never had a formal peace treaty, and both countries--North Korea and South Korea--have never recognized each other, claiming the entire territory of the Korean Peninsula. This change from Kim Jong Un (totalitarian dictator of North Korea) appears to merit due weight, at least in my opinion. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude. No concrete actions have been taken by either government thus far, apart from an announcement made by the North Korean Government. Considering that the North Korean Government frequently makes such announcements without subsequent action, including this particular announcement while excluding other similar ones would be considered giving undue weight WP:UNDUE. If substantial action is taken, such as the formal amendment of the constitution, then the inclusion of that specific action can be considered. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:18, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait until the constitution is amended and/or the North Koreans submit something akin to a formal recognition to the United Nations. PaulRKil (talk) 14:26, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include. Come on, this is the first major event in the Korean conflict since 2018. DementiaGaming (talk) 23:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

Super Bowl
Hey, so the Super Bowl is coming up in the US. You think we should add that to predicted and scheduled events? ItsShrimple (talk) 22:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose It goes in 2024 in sports, not this page. The Super Bowl is an American domestic sporting event that does not have sufficient due weight to belong on this page. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:56, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Makes sense, just wondering why it’s on the 2025 page under predicted events. ItsShrimple (talk) 12:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose I don't believe it's included in the 1967 to 2023 pages. Best placed in the 2024 in sports page. GoodDay (talk) 04:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose: Non global recurring annual event, we should only include non-annual global level events such as the World Cup and the Olympics. The sources of an event need to demonstrate its significance in the context of a year. Most sources for the Super Bowl amount to “It’s occurring on x date at x arena.” That happens every year, what makes this year extraordinary? PaulRKil (talk) 05:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong exclude. Domestic sporting event. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:13, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Upano Valley Sites
You think we should add the discovery of the Upano Valley sites? Pretty large discovery in my opinion. ItsShrimple (talk) 22:37, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Borderline exclude as this better belongs in 2024 in archaeology, as this was an archaeological finding, not a geopolitical event or major scientific breakthrough. I added the discovery to that page. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 00:38, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * An event does not have to be a geopolitical event or major scientific breakthrough to be included on this page. Archaeological findings may be included if it meets the due weight criteria. 33ABGirl (talk) 03:19, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Given their age, this discovery does seem notable. I'm open to inclusion, provided the entry is written to emphasise they are the oldest. Wjfox2005 (talk) 12:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Include This was a very major archaeological discovery. Just because there is a more specific page does not mean that it cannot be included here. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:55, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Should these entries be included for space reasons--I added the main article hyperlinks in the lead (2024 Iran-Pakistan skirmishes and Houthi involvement in the Israel–Hamas war).
JohnAdams1800 (talk) 14:58, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Iran carries out missile strikes in Iraq and Syria, declaring them as retaliation for the Kerman bombings on 3 January
 * January 16 – Iran carries out missile strikes in Pakistan, declaring that it was targeting the Sunni Baloch separatist group Jaish ul-Adl, which had claimed responsibility for the 2019 Khash–Zahedan suicide bombing
 * January 17 – Iranian-backed Houthi movement attacked the Marshall Islands-flagged, United States-owned and operated bulk carrier Genco Picardy in the Gulf of Aden.
 * January 18 – Pakistan carries out retaliatory missile strikes in Iran as a response to the earlier Iranian missile strikes inside Pakistani territory.

 * Wait: I think these will ultimately either be excluded or merged into one or two entries given the fact they're so closely related. PaulRKil (talk) 13:52, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

Does the 2024 Uqturpan earthquake merit inclusion?
I'm unsure, but if there is a consensus to include it the entry should be rewritten, particularly to remove grammatical errors. This may have merit as it had an effect on three countries, but pages about years don't include every international natural disaster.

This was the entry, which has grammatical errors: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
 * January 22 - A earthquake shakes shared borders between China, Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, leaving 15 deads.
 * Exclude for now. Minimal casualties, despite the high quake magnitude. Very little media coverage. Wjfox2005 (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

"In popular culture"
Shouldn't there be a section for predicted events in popular culture? 46.142.141.1 (talk) 16:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Yes it is, pop culture should be on the article as it had an impact on each year, since 20th century. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 22:14, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Strongly Include for me, pop culture has its defining moments on each year and of course decade. Technology could be the further influence as it had an effect on media and entertainment. Take for example, movies, video games, music, literature, sports, and TV shows and specials. These like slang and technical terms are also significant on shaping world cultures and traditions, as well as language history and development. ArtForDecades610 (talk) 18:42, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose pending Due Weight. Rarely is stuff like this widely mentioned, and even then not by a majority of reliable sources.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 03:59, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include Because, why not? Gold Like Shore8 (talk) 00:43, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Strongly Include Normally, I would say that, but I don’t have anything wrong with pop culture and media events, as you can see, they are completely covered by journalism and academic sources. These events can stay as long as it wants as long it follows Wikipedia core principles and policies. -“ Userbase3913 ” (talk) 03:23, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose because popular culture in 2024 already has specific pages for it, and usually doesn't have sufficient due weight to be on this page. See 2024 by topic (i.e. arts, music, sports, etc.) for such events.

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Does this entry merit inclusion--I can't find an article on it.
I personally oppose  inclusion because there's no article on this event, the death toll is low, and the last sentence indicates a lack of media coverage and investigation about the event.

JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:31, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
 * January 20 – An airstrike kills five elite Iranian Revolutionary Guards in a building in Damascus. Iran blames Israel.

 * Exclude due to lack of notability. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:33, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

2024 Bashkortostan protests
Should we add the 2024 Bashkortostan protests? Seems significant enough to warrant inclusion. ItsShrimple (talk) 16:16, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Exclude. Lack of international notability. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:48, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Include. It was on Portal:Current events, so I think that makes it eligible for being on here. DementiaGaming (talk) 20:42, 11 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I believe that this may not be a reliable indicator of the notability of an event. After briefly editing on the portal today for the first time, it appears that the events featured are selected by a very limited number of editors. Content disputes are often resolved through edit warring rather than engaging in meaningful discussions. 33ABGirl (talk) 11:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Kenneth Eugene smith execution
He is the first person to be executed by nitrogen gas in history, I feel like that should be noted in here 2603:8080:7CF0:8820:C888:AB62:5E18:2C37 (talk) 19:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Borderline oppose, because I believe this can better go in 2024 in politics, which I added the event to. Kenneth Eugene Smith was an American convicted murderer, and his execution involved legal challenges and reactions, including different views and laws (i.e. other countries' laws) regarding capital punishment. The page about 2024 has limited space, and usually doesn't include events surrounding criminal law. If other editors believe the entry should be included, and there is a consensus, the event can be added to the main page.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 04:21, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

 * Neutral, and leaning towards exclusion. The method of execution is somewhat notable, being the world's first. However, I'm not sure if the event itself merits inclusion on the 2024 page. He was just one man, and largely unknown. Wjfox2005 (talk) 10:19, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Leaning include, at least for now, as it's a notable execution. World's first as far as I know. Waiting to see what enduring notability this one has.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 19:08, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude this is more fitting in 2024 in the United States PaulRKil (talk) 20:17, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Does this entry on the Israel-Hamas war merit inclusion?
I left the entry on the page for now, but I personally oppose inclusion because I believe the entry lacks due weight as a minor event of a much larger, ongoing armed conflict--the Israel-Hamas War. This page usually doesn't include events about major ongoing armed conflicts, both because information can rapidly change and because there are timelines for such events--Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war.

This is the entry: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 16:26, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * February 1
 * Israel–Hamas war: United States imposes sanctions on Israeli settlers over the violence in West Bank.

 * Oppose, pending due weight. My concerns are linked to WP:TOOSOON  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 17:42, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose, I agree that it is too minor for this article and comparatively isn't even a major event in the context of the war. Yeoutie (talk) 16:26, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose. For the reasons others have already given here. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:45, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

Should these entries be included?

 * February 1 – Russian invasion of Ukraine: All 27 EU member states agree on a €50bn ($55bn) aid package to support Ukraine.

 * February 2 – The US launches airstrikes on 85 targets in Iraq and Syria in response to a deadly drone attack on a US military base.

33ABGirl (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * February 3 – Red Sea crisis: The US and UK launch joint strikes on 36 Houthi targets across 13 locations in Yemen.

 * Oppose all as less significant and incremental updates of conflicts that are more appropriate for their respective timelines. 33ABGirl (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I also oppose for the same reasons as 33ABGirl. These events are part of major ongoing armed conflicts that are mentioned in the lead, and have their own timelines. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 19:57, 4 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Include. A $55 billion aid package (equivalent to the GDP of a small country!) is hardly "incremental". This will shape the course of the conflict for many months to come. And you clearly aren't familiar with European politics – this was a really pivotal agreement, which followed immense pressure on the Hungarian government. As for the other two, how are airstrikes on 85 (eighty-five!) targets "insignificant"? And another 36 after that? What exactly would be significant in your eyes? Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Include. All of these are relevant.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 16:09, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose Ukraine and Red Sea entries, but include US airstrikes on February 2. I agree with above that the first two are just small updates in major wars that we have seen before, but the airstrikes present the first major escalation and response to the ongoing attacks on US bases in the region which is not represented on this page as of yet. Yeoutie (talk) 15:47, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2024
Lynja from CookingWithLynja died on January 1st, 2024. Please add this. Junmintt (talk) 02:27, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: It doesn't go on this page--it goes in Deaths in 2024--this page just has the hyperlink to that page. In fact, it's already on there for January 1, 2024--Deaths in 2024 JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Edits
Excuse me, but I put in several events here, and I just checked back and they're gone. 8UB3RG1N3 (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

 * It appears user@JohnAdams1800 removed your entries for being either too specific for this page or lacking a reliable source. Looking at your additions, I would suggest that they are better suited in pages such as 2024 in the United States or 2024 in Aviation as this page is for events with sufficient international notability and due weight. If you think that an event should be included here but was deleted, you can make a new talk page section and invite other users for their opinions. Yeoutie (talk) 21:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Should this entry be included?
33ABGirl (talk) 06:53, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
 * February 6 – Former President of Chile Sebastián Piñera dies in a helicopter crash at the age of 74.
 * Oppose the inclusion of this death on the main year page, as there is a separate page dedicated to listing deaths. While the cause of death is extraordinary, I am uncertain if it rises to meriting a spot on this page. The individual in question was also a former head of state, not an incumbent one. 33ABGirl (talk) 07:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

 * Support because Piñera is a former head of state, his death received widespread coverage by reliable sources and international heads of state, and his cause of death was extraordinary.
 * I opposed including the earlier attempted assassination of Lee Jae-myung (2 January 2024) because the latter was never a head of state, survived the assassination attempt, and did not receive reactions from international heads of state. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:56, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Overdue reply, but Oppose. We have a deaths list for a reason.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 20:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Should the 29 February 2024 Al-Rashid massacre be included?
I personally oppose including this entry, because it's an ongoing event in a major armed conflict (the Israel-Hamas War) with its own timeline (Timeline of the Israel–Hamas war). The death toll and investigation surrounding the event are still ongoing.

Update: It appears there is a consensus for inclusion. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:03, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Include. Once again, we have an event that is obviously notable, with massive amounts of worldwide media coverage, and international condemnation – and in this case, involving the literal massacre of 112 people. Yet, simply because it's part of an ongoing conflict, it apparently somehow "doesn't count". Let me ask you, is there any single event within a larger conflict that is allowed to be included? Should we go back through the 1939–1945 pages and begin mass-deleting a bunch of entries? Wjfox2005 (talk) 09:12, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

 * This page is not protected, and the event's inclusion risks vandalism and violations of NPOV. The Al-Rashid humanitarian aid incident page is extended-confirmation protected. The incident is part of one of the most contentious topics in Wikipedia (the Israeli-Palestinian conflict), and I support inclusion after the death toll and details of the incident are verified.
 * Side-note: I don't know why the semi-protection for this page was removed, considering this page routinely gets irrelevant entries included. I'm not going to ask for it to be added back because administrators want evidence of vandalism first (pages aren't preemptively protected). JohnAdams1800 (talk) 21:32, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Include Getting a lot media coverage, it was a leading item on BBC news a short time ago. PatGallacher (talk) 00:29, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Include: While it is an event in an ongoing major armed conflict, it has proven to be a far more significant event versus the more typical occurrences we've seen in this conflict and seems to be a turning point in the international view of Israel's handling of the war. There appears to be a lot of countries that are publicly scrutinizing Israel for the first time as a result. Not to delve too far into Crystal Ball territory, I think it is notable just for the reaction by Israel's allies afterward. PaulRKil (talk) 15:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Does the passage of the AI Act in Europe merit an entry? I personally oppose it.
I oppose inclusion because I believe this entry can better go in 2024 in science (I added it there), as this article usually doesn't include domestic laws for entries.

This is the entry: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 13:16, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * March 13 – The Artificial Intelligence Act, the world's first comprehensive legal and regulatory framework for artificial intelligence, is passed by the European Union.

 * Yep, anything that's even slightly interesting, or science/tech-related should ALWAYS be deleted. That seems to be the default response to everything on here. Apparently we're ONLY allowed to post election results, such as those from remote Pacific Islands that most people haven't even heard of. Never mind the fact that AI is emerging as one of the global issues of our time, and this was the first agreement of its kind in the world, and applies extraterritorially (i.e. like the GDPR), as well as to EU member states. Wjfox2005 (talk) 15:49, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I kept the entry, and will ensure it stays on the page unless there's a consensus to remove it. Also the page doesn't include every election, mainly just national elections for heads of government & state (i.e. referendums, local/regional elections, or special/by-elections are rarely included) that receive reliable coverage.
 * Side-note: I'm not anti-science/technology--I'm a college student majoring in mathematics. This page and 2024 in science rarely mention new mathematical discoveries and proofs, despite mathematics being a level-1 vital article. The last entry that I found on mathematics for the year pages was in 1994 (the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem). My point is lots of advances aren't mentioned on the year pages in general.JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:08, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @Wjfox2005 I agree we should include the AI Act but I also think every sovereign nation should have their elections where their executive office is at stake, regardless of the size of the country listed. Those "remote Pacific Islands" comprise of about 3.5 million people when you exclude Australia and New Zealand. PaulRKil (talk) 12:57, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Include because it is an act that covers multiple nations by way of it being an AU regulation and as the entry says, it is the first regulatory framework for AI. Definitely significant in the AI boom that we are seeing right now. PaulRKil (talk) 12:26, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep it in. My opinion is the same as PaulRKil.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 20:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Should the Francis Scott Key Bridge collapse be included? I oppose inclusion.
I keep removing it and someone keeps adding the entry back.

I oppose inclusion because the casualty toll is low, it is a domestic transportation disaster in the United States, and has not caused major disruption to the U.S. or global economy compared to say the 2021 Suez Canal obstruction.

The entry is: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * March 26 – A container ship collides with the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, United States, causing a total collapse of the bridge and the deaths of six people.

 * I tentatively think include this entry. I agree that the casualty count is low and it is a domestic event, but the large amount of media coverage combined with the uniqueness of the event (a boat doesn't collide into a bridge and completely destroy it every day) outweighs the concerns I may have. Yeoutie (talk) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Include. I have never seen so much media coverage on a single event since the terrorists attacked Israel. 30,000 people crossed that bridge every day before collapse. DementiaGaming (talk) 00:23, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Include. For the reasons already stated by Yeoutie and DementiaGaming. Wjfox2005 (talk) 18:57, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose not international notable. Domestic tragedy. _-_Alsor (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

 * Include. Major impact on the world economy. With all due respect, all the "domestic" arguments have been refuted and RFC'd out of oblivion – they're utterly worthless and irrelevant now. I would encourage all the "domestic" arguers to find a better reason to exclude entries.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 20:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
 * What has been the "impact on the world economy"? I seriously ask why the major newspapers have not reported an "impact on the world economy" such as the pandemic, the invasion of Ukraine or the conflict in the Red Sea (and not the collapse of a bridge). _-_Alsor (talk) 20:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Super Bowl
The Super Bowl had a record-breaking viewer count of 123 million spectators and is the most-watched American broadcast of all time, surpassing the Apollo 11 Moon landing. There is no way it should not be included.

Yes, events on this list are based on how popular they were, and I don’t think that 123 million spectators were geared up and excited to go see the news broadcast on the “2024 Korochansky Ilyushin Il-76 crash” DementiaGaming (talk) 22:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

 * It seems like there are similar discussions every year such as last year's. General idea is that it is a purely domestic sporting event, and if we let the Super Bowl in a whole host of country-specific sporting events would then be included as well. To the most-watched broadcast point, I would argue that this, again, is only country-specific, and that looking at List of most-watched television broadcasts the Super Bowl gaining this many viewers is not too uncommon especially in recent years. Yeoutie (talk) 16:33, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Also realized this has already been discussed this year just a few sections up. Yeoutie (talk) 14:16, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose inclusion of the Super Bowl or other domestic sporting events from any country, because this page is for events with sufficient due weight internationally. The Olympics are an international competition where almost every country competes. Those events go in 2024 in sports.
 * This page doesn't include many notable events related to popular culture and other notable categories, not just domestic sporting events. Many scientific discoveries, technological inventions, performing arts events, and environmental events aren't included. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:11, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose domestic sporting event. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose per what @Yeoutie and @JohnAdams1800 have said. Same reason we don't add UEFA Champions League which are larger in terms of viewership which averages 400 million. PaulRKil (talk) 12:44, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I am of the opinion that the Super Bowl is an exception and should be included, as the closest thing that we have to a World Cup of American football. Unlike UEFA or the NBA, there isn't a notable FIFA tournament equivalent for American Football, and the ones that do exist barely make a mark. UEFA likely isn't included because of the existence of the FIFA World Cup, same with the NBA Finals being excluded since FIBA exists, and even the WBC trumping the MLB World Series. There ain't a notable international American Football tournament. Plus, American football is an increasingly international sport. The fandom has increased in East Asia as much as it has in Europe, which is now hosting demonstration games every year in the UK and Munich.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 20:21, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Mexico Embassy raid
Should we include the Mexican embassy raid from Ecuador? 2603:8080:7CF0:280:7D6F:CCDA:7946:2DD9 (talk) 20:20, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Include, the raid has resulted in Mexico and Nicaragua breaking off diplomatic relations with Ecuador and Mexico has filed a complaint with the ICJ. Yeoutie (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

 * Include, given widespread coverage of international law and reactions from countries & international organizations. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:37, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

President Xi Jinping's State Visit to France
I was wondering if it is notable enough to be included here?

Macron sets Ukraine as top priority as China’s Xi Jinping pays a state visit to France – AP News

China's Xi Arrives in France for State Visit – Voice of America AsianStuff03 (talk) 06:11, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Oppose, though it can go in 2024 in China and 2024 in France. State visits between heads of state are common and lack due weight for this page, unless they are particularly significant--i.e. two countries establish diplomatic relations and this is the first state visit after that. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 15:02, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Oppose as it isn't too unusual. While they are geopolitical rivals, they do have open relations with each other. If they had zero diplomatic relations such as the case with North Korea and a lot of western states, it would be notable. PaulRKil (talk) 12:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * oppose – state visits aren't too big and common place.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 16:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Do these entries merit inclusion?

 * The Chinese President Xi Jinping begins his European tour, starting in France, Serbia and ending in Hungary.
 * May 6
 * King Charles III, celebrates the first anniversary of his coronation, marked to his cancer diagnosis.
 * The King Frederik X and his wife, the Queen, makes the first state visit to Sweden, as new monarchs, since the abdication of his mother, in January 14, 2024.

I removed them after someone added them. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:43, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

 * King Charles III celebrates the first anniversary of his coronation, marked by his cancer diagnosis, I don't think it is relevant Otilio2 (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't see that any of them are notorious. The visit of the Chinese President and the new Danish King and Queen are normal diplomatic events and we don't include here anniversaries of ephemerides. _-_Alsor (talk) 09:40, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Exclude all. Wjfox2005 (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Inclusion and wording of this entry
I'm not sure about whether this entry merits inclusion, but I'm leaning towards exclude-- Is there an article for this event? The State of Palestine has attempted to become a full member of the UN for decades, so this event would likely have gotten its own article if there was a change in its UN status. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 01:54, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * May 10 – The United Nations General Assembly increases the rights of Palestine within the United Nations, and advocates for the United Nations Security Council to make Palestine a UN member state.

 * I'd include it pending bigger decisions or impacts. For now it's the biggest one which has happened, though if more significant developments occur, I'd be in favor of condensing all of it into a single entry.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 16:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

Inclusion of the Rafah Offensive
Shouldn't we add the beginning of the Rafah offensive to the section of events in May, given how much is being reported on it, and how important it has become? Tornadoboy7 (talk) 16:45, 11 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Wait and see. Way too often do we, not to discount myself, fall into TOOSOON traps, and this looks like yet another one. Until something is firm in place, I'd exclude, pending extraneous circumstances like when the entire world's TV sets were focused on lower Manhattan during 9/11.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 16:49, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I understand. but it seems that most news sources are covering this topic at the current moment. Plus, it looks like the Rafah offensive will go on for some time. Tornadoboy7 (talk) 17:17, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Wait because neither Israel, Hamas, or any large s organizations monitoring the situation have said that Israel has begun its formal invasion aside from some skirmishes and missile exchanges. PaulRKil (talk) 16:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

Singapore Airlines Flight 321
There has been a relatively decent number of media reporting about the incident (BBC, CNN, etc). It is also a very rare occurrence of severe turbulence mid-air, and has resulted in the death of a 73 year old man. Should it be included? Though, since the fatality count is quite small, maybe it is not that significant. It is also a very rare incident incurred on Singapore Airlines involving casualties, last time being 2000. So, up to you to include it. 2406:3003:2002:2D79:D93A:C16E:D2E1:4F6 (talk) 03:01, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

 * It best belongs in 2024 in Singapore. Indiana6724 (talk) 03:46, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

 * Exclude. Sad event, but relatively minor casualties, and the plane wasn't destroyed. Wjfox2005 (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Collage Prototype
Since we're halfway through 2024 I think we should start talking which events are candidates for collage photos. My candidates are: The Israel-Hamas war The 2024 Summer olympics (when they happen of course) The 2024 U.S. presidential election (doubt it) Which events do you think deserve a mention in the collage by the end of 2024 See ya! Superyassi362 (talk) 19:50, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

Does Trump's conviction in New York merit an entry?
I'm unsure, but leaning towards exclude because it's a domestic political event that mainly applies to the United States--it certainly belongs in 2024 in the United States--but isn't particularly important outside of the United States. I don't think pages about years have previously featured former heads of state being prosecuted, though I could be wrong. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * May 30 – Former United States President Donald Trump is found guilty on 34 counts in regards to his hush money trial, the first time any American president (sitting or former) has been found guilty of a crime. He faces up to four years in prison.

 * Strong include. For God's sake. This is a highly notable trial. Massive, global attention and undoubtedly one of the defining moments of 2024. I think it's ludicrous to suggest this "isn't particularly important outside of the United States", when the U.S. President is literally the most powerful and influential person on the entire planet, and this guy possibly still has a chance at a 2nd term. Wjfox2005 (talk) 07:56, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

 * weak exclusion in the Trump ecosystem is yet another conviction in yet another court case. It is a relevant event because it concerns a former US president, but it is a local one, with no (for now) remarkable long-term impact (legislative changes, real influence on the November elections, protests in the streets...), but it is certainly not “one of the defining moments of 2024”. In fact it is the conviction for a business crime, and it would be more notorious if it were a crime related to presidential or post-presidential political activity (rebellion, sedition, large-scale corruption, war crimes...). I have my doubts. _-_Alsor (talk) 14:40, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Include - This is a very important (and historic) event, The First U.S President (former or sitting) to have been convicted of a crime. InterDoesWiki (talk) 15:09, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * This is only really notable in the US. Lots of presidents and leaders of other countries have been convicted of crimes. Ultimately this trial has so far no global significance. Di (they-them) (talk) 00:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's just nonsense. It is of global interest. The United States is the most powerful and influential country on earth, and its President is the most powerful and influential world leader. Trump's status as a felon means that he is now technically barred from travelling to dozens of countries. This trial and Trump's ongoing legal problems have received extensive coverage by every major media outlet around the world, easily enough to meet the notability threshold. Wjfox2005 (talk) 08:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I recommend you to learn more about other countries and take a look at their press. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:34, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak include  since he is a major candidate and certainly the GOP nominee along with being a former president. Exclude the sentence regarding potential jail-time. I think it is too sensationalistic to keep in there and without sounding too crystal ball, pretty much every legal expert thinks he won't spend a day in prison. PaulRKil (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Exclude Ultimately this case has yet to have any impact outside of the United States, or even within it. We have no idea if this will have any effects on his run for presidency, and it's a domestic issue with a scope limited to American politics. I seriously doubt it qualifies as a global event. He isn't the only national leader to be convicted of crimes, and the fact that he was convicted of a business crime unrelated to his political career makes this ultimately unremarkable from a global perspective. Di (they-them) (talk) 01:54, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Include per the due weight policy. This is worldwide covered news.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 14:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2024
The 2024 Summer Paralympics in Paris are scheduled from 28 August to 8 September 2024 Safetygal (talk) 10:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅   [[User:CanonNi ]]  (talk • contribs) 11:02, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

Sam Mostyn
I see that one of the July events is the swearing in of Sam Mostyn, is this even an event worth keeping? It's not really a major world event considering most people don't know who, and never will know, who she is. I don't really see the point of this being under the July section of the page. It's not even an event that comes in the wake of an election either so it doesn't seem significant to be featured under notable 2024 events. Maybe I am wrong, but that's just my thought. Jayson Taylor (talk) 02:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

 * So far exclude due to insufficient coverage from a due weight perspective.  Invading Invader  (userpage, talk) 12:44, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Does Trump v. United States (2024) merit an entry? I'm opposed.
I'm opposed, the United States is not the only country in the world and this entry is Americentric. We haven't included many important legal cases, like the South African case against Israel in the World Court for example. The legal process for that case is still playing out. For 2022, we didn't include the Dobbs decision, which was also landmark if not more so than Trump v. United States (2024).

This is the entry: JohnAdams1800 (talk) 02:36, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * In the Trump v. United States (2024) case, the Supreme Court of the United States rules that ex-Presidents have broad immunity from any prosecution for "official acts".
 * The United States is not the only country in the world, but it is a country of major importance that can affect a lot of the world, and I don't see that it has a monopoly on this year which includes a lot of events from numerous countries. Considering this was a very unusual and strange ruling from the Supreme Court, granting broad absolute immunity for "official acts", I support including it. One way or another, it will affect a lot of behavior of future American Presidents. We can't just have generic chronology of elections per country, politicians being sworn in or summits. Major events, milestones and changes should be noted, as is this one.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 15:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Strong exclude the immunity of a U.S. president has already been the subject of previous SCOTUS rulings, so it is not a case that will influence the behaviors of future POTUS "a lot". And yes, the US is an important and influential country, but it does NOT mean that any news about this country has to have special notability. And no, this is not the case. The immunity of the head of state is a subject of treaty in Constitutions of countries older than this one, in constitutional debates of other countries, so any decision about the immunity of a head of state, whatever it is, should not have an entry in Year in topic. _-_Alsor (talk) 21:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Which previous SCOTUS rulings are you referring to? CNN published an article that the ruling practically gave the president "superpowers", The Guardian that the constitution was shredded , Al Jazeera that it will "transform the United States government" and that the decision "may undermine the rule of law in the country" , The Hill that the president is now practically a King , The Nation wrote "The President Can Now Assassinate You, Officially" , etc. No, this is not an ordinary or routine SCOTUS ruling. This is a major change that now puts even impeaching a president into doubt. It will change the behavior of future US presidents, who now know they have broad immunity, and therefore this event merits inclusion, absolutely.--3E1I5S8B9RF7 (talk) 14:01, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * This entry has a superb and legitimate place, from what you explain, in 2024 in the United States. Neither international relations nor the rest of the countries in the world are going to change. And it is important not to get carried away by the often biased headlines in the press, although I thank you for the work of looking for various journalistic sources. Btw, take a look at Nixon v. Fitzgerald. _-_Alsor (talk) 17:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Include, for the reasons given by 3E1I5S8B9RF7. Wjfox2005 (talk) 17:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

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Karl Gordon Henize

Karl Gordon Henize (October 17, 1926 – October 5, 1993) was an American astronomer, space scientist, NASA astronaut, and professor at Northwestern University. He was stationed at several observatories around the world, including McCormick Observatory, Lamont–Hussey Observatory (South Africa), Mount Wilson Observatory, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory and Mount Stromlo Observatory (Australia). He was a member of the astronaut support crew for Apollo 15 and Skylab 2, 3, and 4. As a mission specialist on the Spacelab-2 mission (STS-51-F), he flew on Space Shuttle Challenger in July/August 1985. He was awarded the NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal in 1974.

He died in 1993, during a Mount Everest expedition while testing equipment for NASA.

Early life and education
Karl Henize was born in Cincinnati, Ohio, on October 17, 1926. He grew up on a small dairy farm outside Cincinnati, and his boyhood heroes were Buck Rogers and Sir Edmund Hillary, the first man to reach the summit of Mount Everest. Henize was fascinated with space at a young age. Since space travel had not happened yet during his childhood, he became interested in astronomy. Henize built his own telescopes and read every book on astronomy in his school's library. He joined the Boy Scouts, and his only merit badge was in astronomy.

His hobbies included home computers, stamp collecting, mathematics, and astronomy, and he also enjoyed racquetball, baseball, skin diving, and mountain climbing.

Henize attended elementary school in Plainville and Mariemont, Ohio. The school was small, three or four rooms, and did not contain a library. He also attended high school in Mariemont, where he played baseball and was on the tumbling team. Due to the war, Karl elected to not finish high school, instead entering the V-12 Navy College Training Program, which first took him to Denison University in Granville, Ohio, and then to the University of Virginia. World War II ended before he received his Naval Commission, so he became a member of the U.S. Naval Reserve, reaching the rank of lieutenant commander and retained a draft status of A1 until being required to give that up when he became an astronaut in 1967. While at the University of Virginia, he received a Bachelor of Arts degree in mathematics in 1947, and a Master of Arts degree in astronomy in 1948, while also carrying out research at McCormick Observatory. He was awarded a Doctor of Philosophy in astronomy in 1954 by the University of Michigan.

Henize married Caroline Weber in Ann Arbor, and they had four children: Kurt, Marcia, Skye, and Vance.

Experience
Henize was an observer for the University of Michigan Observatory from 1948 to 1951, stationed at the Lamont–Hussey Observatory in Bloemfontein, Union of South Africa. While there, he conducted an objective-prism spectroscopic survey of the southern sky for stars and nebulae showing emission lines of hydrogen.

In 1954 he became a Carnegie post-doctoral fellow at the Mount Wilson Observatory in Pasadena, California, and conducted spectroscopic and photometric studies of emission-line stars and nebulae. From 1956 to 1959, he served as a senior astronomer at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory. He was in charge of photographic satellite tracking stations for the satellite tracking program and responsible for the establishment and operation of a global network of 12 stations for photographic tracking of artificial Earth satellites.

Henize was appointed associate professor in Northwestern University's Department of Astronomy in 1959 and was awarded a professorship in 1964. In addition to teaching, he conducted research on planetary nebulae, peculiar emission-line stars, S-type stars, and T-associations. During 1961 and 1962, he was a guest observer at Mount Stromlo Observatory in Canberra, Australia, where he used instruments ranging from the Uppsala 20/26-inch schmidt to the 74-inch parabolic reflector.

Henize also engaged in studies of ultraviolet optical systems and astronomical programs suited to the crewed space flight program. He became principal investigator of experiment S-013 which obtained ultraviolet stellar spectra during the Gemini 10, 11, and 12 flights. He also became principal investigator of experiment S-019 in which a 6-inch aperture objective-prism spectrograph was used on Skylab to obtain ultraviolet spectra of faint stars.

From 1974 to 1978 Henize chaired the NASA Facility Definition Team for STARLAB, a proposed 1-meter UV telescope for Spacelab. From 1978 to 1980 he chaired the NASA Working Group for the Spacelab Wide-Angle Telescope. Since 1979 he had been the chairman of the International Astronomical Union Working Group for Space Schmidt Surveys and was one of the leaders in proposing the use of a 1-meter (3 ft) all-reflecting Schmidt telescope to carry out a deep full-sky survey in far-ultraviolet wavelengths.

He authored or co-authored 70 scientific publications dealing with astronomy research.

NASA experience
Henize applied for the first scientist-astronaut group, but was denied because the age limit was 35 and he was 37. In 1967, NASA abolished the age limit, and Henize was selected as a scientist-astronaut by NASA in August. Astronauts that did not already know how to fly had to complete a 53-week jet pilot training program at Vance Air Force Base, Oklahoma. They also completed initial education there. He was a member of the astronaut support crew and CAPCOM for the Apollo 15 mission. The entire support crew consisted of scientist-astronauts, as the prime crew of the mission thought they would need more help with the science aspects of the mission rather than the piloting. He was also a member of the astronaut support crew for the Skylab 2, 3, and 4 missions. He was mission specialist for the ASSESS-2 spacelab simulation mission in 1977. He logged 2,300 hours flying time in jet aircraft.

Henize was a mission specialist on the Spacelab-2 mission (STS-51-F) which launched from Kennedy Space Center, Florida, on July 29, 1985. He was accompanied by Col. Gordon Fullerton (spacecraft commander), Col. Roy D. Bridges (pilot), fellow mission specialists Dr. Anthony W. England and Dr. F. Story Musgrave, as well as two payload specialists, Dr. Loren Acton and Dr. John-David Bartoe.

This mission was the first pallet-only Spacelab mission and the first mission to operate the Spacelab Instrument Pointing System (IPS). It carried 13 major experiments, of which seven were in the field of astronomy and solar physics, three were for studies of the Earth's ionosphere, two were life science experiments, and one studied the properties of superfluid helium. Henize's responsibilities included testing and operating the IPS, operating the Remote Manipulator System (RMS), maintaining the Spacelab systems, and operating several of the experiments.

After 126 orbits of the Earth, STS 51-F Challenger landed at Edwards Air Force Base, California, on August 6, 1985. With the completion of this flight Henize logged 190 hours in space.

In 1986, he retired as an astronaut and accepted a position as senior scientist in the Space Sciences Branch. He studied space debris and hazards to the space station.

In the 1998 miniseries From the Earth to the Moon, Henize was played by Marc Macaulay.

Death
Henize, on leave from NASA at the time, went on a hiking expedition to Mount Everest with British research group High Adventure BVI. Henize intended to test the Tissue Equivalent Proportional Counter (TEPC) at different altitudes: 17,000 ft, 19,000 ft, and 21,000 ft. The TEPC would reveal how people's bodies would be affected, including the way bodily tissues behaved, when struck by radiation, which was important for the planning of long duration space missions. The data would be shared with NASA and BVI.

Henize acclimatized at Kathmandu, Nepal, followed by acclimatization at expedition base camp in China. Henize, with three members of High Adventure BVI, began the hike on October 4, 1993. Henize reported breathing problems on their way to advanced base camp; they were at 22,000 ft. Treatments with oxygen failed, and they returned to base camp. On October 5, Henize died in his sleep. The cause of death was determined to be high altitude pulmonary edema (HAPE). Henize, aged 66, was buried near the Changtse Glacier. He was survived by his wife, Caroline, and four children.

Organizations
Henize was a member of the American Astronomical Society; the Royal Astronomical Society; the Astronomical Society of the Pacific; the International Astronomical Union; and Phi Beta Kappa.

Special honors
He was presented the Robert Gordon Memorial Award for 1968, and was a recipient of NASA Group Achievement Awards in 1971, 1974, 1975, 1978. He was also awarded the NASA Exceptional Scientific Achievement Medal in 1974.

Writings
In 1956, Henize published the Catalogues of Hα-Emission Stars and Nebulae in the Magellanic Clouds. The paper references many objects which bear his name, such as the Superbubble Henize 70 and the planetary nebula Henize 3–401. He discovered over 2,000 stars. In total, he published 75 papers.

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William S. Laughlin

William S. Laughlin (August 26, 1919 – April 6, 2001) was an American anthropologist who carried on research and wrote about aboriginal peoples in the Aleutians and Greenland.

William Sceva Laughlin was born in Canton, Missouri in 1919. He grew up in Salem, Oregon, where his father was a professor at Willamette University. His education included a bachelor's (Willamette University, 1941) and master's (Haverford College, 1942) degree in sociology, and master's (1948) and Ph.D. (1949) degrees in anthropology from Harvard University. His academic career in anthropology included professorships at the University of Oregon (1949-1955), the University of Wisconsin (1955-1969), and the University of Connecticut (1969-1999). His primary field of specialization was physical anthropology, including Aleutian-Siberian studies, human biology, population history and human evolution. Laughlin first came to Alaska in 1938 as a member of the Smithsonian Expedition to the Aleutian Islands, directed by Dr. Aleš Hrdlička. In 1948, he was the field director for the Peabody Museum's Expedition to the Aleutians. Over the years, he made over twenty trips to the Aleutians to study its peoples. His research there culminated in the publication in 1980 of his book, Aleuts: Survivors of the Bering Land Bridge. He also co-edited the book, The First Americans: Origins, Affinities and Adaptations, with Connecticut colleague, Albert B. Harper. Laughlin was a member or fellow of several professional societies, edited the American Journal for Physical Anthropology (1958-1963), and served on several scientific committees, including the U. S. National Committee for the International Biological Program, the Committee to Evaluate National Science Foundation Programs, and the Programs Advisory Committee of the National Institutes for Dental Research. William S. Laughlin died in Portland, Oregon, in 2001.

Books

 * Frohlich, Bruno; Harper, Albert B. and Gilberg, Rolf. (ed.). To the Aleutians and beyond : the anthropology of William S. Laughlin, Copenhagen: Dept. of Ethnography, the National Museum of Denmark, 2002. 382 pp.: ill., maps ; 30 cm. ISBN 87-89384-85-7
 * Gilberg, R., Jørgensen, J. Balslev, & Laughlin, William S. Anthropometrical and skinfold thickness measurements on the Polar Eskimos, Thule District, North Greenland. Copenhagen: C. A. Reitzel, 1975. 22, [1] pp. : ill. ; 29 cm. ISBN 87-421-0103-4
 * Laughlin, William S. Aleuts, survivors of the Bering Land Bridge Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, c1980. vii, 151 pp.; ill.; 24 cm. ISBN 0-03-081269-0 (paperback)
 * Laughlin, William S., & Harper, Albert B. (ed.); The First Americans: origins, affinities, and adaptations. New York : G. Fischer, 1979. xi, 340 pp.; ill.; 25 cm. ISBN 0-89574-103-2

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Robert Byron

Robert Byron (26 February 1905 – 24 February 1941) was an English travel writer, best known for his travelogue The Road to Oxiana. He was also an art critic and historian.

Biography
Robert Byron was born in Wembley, London on 26 February 1905, the only son of three children born to Eric Byron, a civil engineer, and his wife Margaret, daughter of William Robinson, of Southall Manor, Middlesex. He was educated at Eton College and Merton College, Oxford, where he graduated in 1925 in Modern History. At Oxford he took part in the Hypocrites' Club.

Byron travelled in 1925 across Europe in a car to Greece, with Alfred Duggan and Gavin Henderson. It led to his first book, and a second was commissioned for Duckworth by Thomas Balston, to be on Mount Athos. He later visited India, the Soviet Union, and Tibet. It was in Persia and Afghanistan that Byron found the subject to match his style of travel writing. He completed his account of The Road to Oxiana in Beijing, his temporary home. His innovation, that set him apart from his major travel writing rival Peter Fleming and others, was to disregard the conventional continuous narrative.

An appreciation of architecture is a strong element in Byron's writings. He was a forceful advocate for the preservation of historic buildings and a founder member of the Georgian Group. A philhellene, he also pioneered, in the English-speaking world, a renewal of interest in Byzantine history. Byron has been described as "one of the first and most brilliant of twentieth-century philhellenes". Photographs of Iranian architecture by Byron, taken while he was writing The Road to Oxiana between 1933 and 1934 are held in the Conway Library of Art and Architecture at The Courtauld Institute of Art in London.

He attended the last Nuremberg Rally, in 1938, with Nazi sympathiser Unity Mitford. Byron knew her through his friendship with her sister Nancy Mitford, but he was an outspoken opponent of the Nazis. Nancy Mitford hoped at one stage that Byron would propose marriage to her, and was later astonished as well as shocked to discover his homosexual tastes, complaining: "This wretched paederasty falsifies all feelings and yet one is supposed to revere it." According to Paul Fussell in his introduction to the Oxford paperback edition of The Road to Oxiana (1982) Byron was a fervent and vocal critic of Hitler, "object[ing] in the most violent terms to the Nazification of Europe and abusing those in England who imagined that some sort of compromise with this new wickedness was possible".

Byron's great, though unreciprocated, passion was for Desmond Parsons, younger brother of the 6th Earl of Rosse, who was regarded as one of the most charismatic men of his generation. They lived together in Peking, in 1935, where Parsons developed Hodgkin's disease, of which he died in Zurich, in 1937, at 26 years old. Byron was left devastated.

Death, reputation and legacy
Byron died aged 35 in 1941, during World War II, when the ship on which he was travelling was torpedoed en route to West Africa. Byron was destined for Egypt and would likely have transshipped on arrival and continued his journey via the Cape. The SS Jonathan Holt was torpedoed by U-97, a Type VIIC submarine, in the North Atlantic off Cape Wrath. His body was never found.

An acquaintance from early days, Evelyn Waugh noted Byron's gumption. In 1929 he wrote to Henry Yorke "I hear Robert has beaten us all by going to India in an aeroplane which is the sort of success which I call tangible." But writing in 1948, Waugh said of Byron in a letter to Harold Acton: "It is not yet the time to say so but I greatly disliked Robert in his last years & think he was a dangerous lunatic better off dead." The passionately anti-communist Waugh believed that during the 1930s Byron had become pro-Soviet, though Byron's – and Waugh's – biographer Christopher Sykes firmly denied any such sympathy on Byron's part.

Prince Charles read Byron's prose All These I Learnt on BBC Radio 4 on National Poetry Day, 5 October 2006.

In February 2012, his book Europe in the Looking Glass was serialised by BBC's Radio 4 Book of the Week. The program included detailed passages of Germany and an eyewitness report of the 1922 Greek refugee exodus and massacres following the Great Fire of Smyrna.

Literary archives

 * Robert Byron Papers. General Collection, Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library. Yale University.

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Dr. T & the Women

Dr. T & The Women is a 2000 American romantic comedy film directed by Robert Altman, featuring an ensemble cast including Richard Gere as wealthy gynecologist Dr. Sullivan Travis ("Dr. T") and Helen Hunt, Farrah Fawcett, Laura Dern, Shelley Long, Tara Reid, Kate Hudson, and Liv Tyler as the various women that he encounters in his everyday life. The movie was primarily filmed in Dallas, Texas, and was released in US theaters on October 13, 2000. The film's music was composed by American composer and alternative country singer Lyle Lovett, who released an album of his score in September 2000.

Plot
Dr. Sullivan 'Sully' Travis (aka "Dr. T."), a wealthy Dallas gynecologist for some of the wealthiest ladies in Texas, finds his life beginning to fall apart starting when his wife, Kate, suffers from 'Hestia Complex', a rare type of stigmatization syndrome of wealthy women, receding into a strange state and, after she disrobes in a shopping mall fountain while shopping for their daughter's wedding registry at Tiffany's, is committed to the state mental hospital. When Dr. T visits Kate, she rebuffs his kisses as improper and he sees her old psyche cannot be brought back to now by his affection. Dr. T's daughter, Dee Dee, a student at Southern Methodist University and alternate for the Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders, is planning to go through with her approaching wedding despite the secret that she is romantically involved with Marilyn, her former college friend in Houston and the maid of honor. Dr. T's other daughter, Connie, is a conspiracy theorist and eventually reveals to her father that Dee Dee and Marilyn are lovers.

While Marilyn is on his examining table for the first time, she surmises her condition is caused by the stress of being the maid of honor for her friend Dee Dee. Dr. T realizes she is Dee Dee's lover and becomes embarrassed mid-examination, asking the nurse to finish.

Dr. T's loyal secretary Carolyn has romantic feelings for him, which are not mutual: in a farcical scene at the workday end, she locks the office door and gives him a shoulder-massage from behind his chair, secretly disrobing while emphasizing his need for a loving wife. Refreshed but unaware of her intentions, he goes to the coat closet, turns and finds she has vanished. From under the desk, she says he never empties his trash baskets. Approaching the desk he glimpses her state of undress and quickly leaves.

Meanwhile, Dr. T's alcoholic sister-in-law, Peggy, unintentionally meddles in every situation she stumbles into. She is currently divorced and has moved into his house with her three daughters.

At his golf club, Bree, a golf pro, gets accidentally soaked by the automatic sprinklers and he offers a towel and his dry golf cart and they decide to play the round together. Accepting his offer for dinner, she says she knows a better place than his suggested restaurant, next they're taking grocery bags into her condo. She moves quickly and gracefully turning on the stereo music by Lyle Lovett, the grill on the balcony, putting steak on, going upstairs, into one room, then walking nude across the balcony to the shower. After dinner, she takes a bottle of wine upstairs, briefly hesitating he follows her and they become lovers. She provides friendship and comfort in his difficult office and personal life.

As Dee Dee's wedding begins the skies are darkening and thunder increasing. As the procession is blown by increasing wind, Dee Dee bypasses her groom, embraces and kisses Marilyn and the skies open up sending all the guests for shelter. Inspired, Dr. T drives his open top convertible to Bree's house where he asks her to marry and run away with him. He offers to fulfill her every need and she asks why she would want that (this is what caused Kate's syndrome according to her psychologist). She says she has made other plans. Dr. T. asks if she is with Harlan, one of his golfing/hunting buddies, She replies: “I’m not with anybody.” Distraught, Dr. T. drives off into the storm and into a tornado as it crosses his path and is lifted into the air, tumbles in debris; the scene fades to the morning after. The camera view pans to reveal distant mountains surrounding a vast desert flat land. His nearby car is found by three Mexican people. A little girl in a white dress with a veil sees the doctor badge on the front grill of the car Exclaiming “Dr!”. They find & lead him, still dazed, to a circle of seven tiny houses where a girl is in labor. Galvanized by the sight, he immediately washes his hands, drops his wedding ring into the basin, takes charge and delivers the baby, holding it and rejoices “it’s a boy!”

Cast

 * Richard Gere as Dr. Sullivan Travis / Dr. T
 * Helen Hunt as Bree Davis
 * Farrah Fawcett as Kate Travis
 * Laura Dern as Peggy
 * Shelley Long as Carolyn
 * Kate Hudson as Dee Dee Travis
 * Liv Tyler as Marilyn
 * Tara Reid as Connie Travis
 * Robert Hays as Harlan
 * Matt Malloy as Bill
 * Andy Richter as Eli
 * Lee Grant as Dr. Harper
 * Janine Turner as Dorothy Chambliss
 * Sarah Shahi as Cheerleader (uncredited)

Release
Dr. T & The Women was released in US cinemas on October 13, 2000 by Artisan Entertainment, and earned $5,012,867 in its opening weekend on 1,489 screens, ranking #7 in the weekend of October 13, 2000 ultimately grossing $13,113,041 in the United States. It was released in the United Kingdom on July 6, 2001 by Columbia TriStar Film Distributors International, grossing $9,731,250 in international profits.

Reception
The film received mixed reviews from critics. On review aggregation website Rotten Tomatoes, the film has a 57% approval rating, based on 108 reviews with an average rating of 5.71/10. The site's consensus states: "In terms of quality, Dr. T & the Women is one of Altman's good-but-not-great films. In typical Altman style, it features some great ensemble acting, including a wonderful performance by Richard Gere." Metacritic gave the film an average score of 64/100, based on 35 reviews. CinemaScore audience polling gave the film an "F." Coincidentally, it was released the same day as Lost Souls, which also received an "F."

Critic Roger Ebert gave the film three stars, stating "When you hear that Dr. T is a gynecologist played by Richard Gere, you assume he is a love machine mowing down his patients. Nothing could be further from the truth".

A. O. Scott wrote in a review for The New York Times, "'Dr. T and the Women' uses its affluent milieu to good comic effect, but it's mellower and more forgiving than these movies, and less interested in social criticism than in the celebration of human foible. In spite of Sully's troubles, the emotional stakes never seem very high. Everyone seems to be having too much fun to be suffering terribly much."

In a moderately favorable review for Variety, Todd McCarthy wrote, "Although marked by a continually enjoyable accretion of detail and vital work by the thesps, storytelling admittedly leans to the slight and leisurely through the first hour or so, until a prolonged sequence devoted to Dr. T’s day from hell."

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23 (film)

23, original German title: 23 – Nichts ist so wie es scheint ("Nothing is what it seems") is a 1998 German drama thriller film about young hacker Karl Koch, who died on 23 May 1989, a presumed suicide. It was directed by Hans-Christian Schmid, who also participated in screenwriting. The title derives from the protagonist's obsession with the number 23, a phenomenon often described as apophenia. Although the film was well received by critics and audiences, its accuracy has been vocally disputed by several witnesses to the real-life events on which it was based. Schmid subsequently co-authored a book that tells the story of the making of 23 and also details the differences between the movie and the actual main events.

Plot
In 1980s Germany at the height of the Cold War, 19-year-old Karl Koch (August Diehl) finds the world around him threatening and chaotic. Inspired by the fictitious character Hagbard Celine (from Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea's 1975 book The Illuminatus! Trilogy), he starts investigating the backgrounds of political and economic power and discovers signs that make him believe in a worldwide conspiracy.

At a meeting of the Chaos Computer Club, Karl gets to know the student David (Fabian Busch). David and Karl are able to hack into the global data network — still in its early stages — and their belief in social justice propels them into espionage for the KGB. Driven by contacts with a drug dealer—and by increasing KGB pressure to hack successfully into foreign systems—Karl spirals into a cocaine dependency and grows increasingly alienated from David.

In a drug-addled state, Karl begins to sit in front of his computer for days at a time. Perpetually sleepless, he also grows increasingly delusional. When David publicly reveals the espionage activity in which the two men have been engaged, Karl is left alone to face the consequences. Collapse soon follows. Karl is taken to a hospital to deal with his drug addiction and mysteriously dies after his supposed hacking of Chernobyl.

Cast

 * August Diehl as Karl Koch
 * Fabian Busch as David
 * as Pepe
 * as Lupo
 * Stephan Kampwirth as Jochen Maiwald
 * Zbigniew Zamachowski as Sergej
 * Peter Fitz as Brückner
 * Burghart Klaußner as Weber
 * as Beate
 * as Alex
 * as Seybert

Awards

 * 1999: German Film Award

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Walter Edwards

Walter Edwards may refer to:

 * Walter Alison Edwards (1862–1924), president of the California Institute of Technology
 * Walter Edwards (director) (1870–1920), American film director
 * Walter Atlee Edwards (1886–1928), United States Navy officer and Medal of Honor recipient
 * Stoker Edwards (1900–1964), British Member of Parliament
 * Walter Edwards (footballer) (1924–2018), English footballer
 * Wally Edwards (born 1949), Australian cricketer

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Water jet

Water jet may refer to:
 * A jet of water under pressure, like in an ornamental fountain or drain cleaner
 * Pump-jet, a marine propulsion mechanism for jetskis and other types of boats
 * Water jet cutter, a tool for cutting and the machining of engineering materials
 * Water-jet printer, a printer that makes use of water instead of ink
 * Dental water jet, see Oral irrigator
 * Jet spray, see Bidet shower

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