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Talk:Hernando de Soto (economist)

Other path
The original Spanish-langauge title of De Soto's 1986 book is El otro sendero. This does, indeed, translate as "the other path", but in a Peruvian context at that time, it seems almost certain to me that the title must be an allusion to the Maoist Sendero Luminoso ("Shining Path") guerrillas. Does anyone think otherwise? -- Jmabel 20:54, 28 May 2004 (UTC) --- I believe de Soto actually makes this connection explicit in the introduction to his second book - I don't think it's extremely important - the fact that his policies undermined Shining Path is far more important than a literary allusion - but I certainly wouldn't be against adding a mention of it. Chris Edgemon 06:04, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The article as it is is POV, almost flamingly admiring of de Soto who is not an undisputed figure. If I have time, I'll add some of the critiques leveled against both him and his work, until then I just wanted to draw attention to that. The Milton Friedman prize pretty clearly gives away what political side de Soto is on (and revered by). bastel (19 July 2005)

 * Quite. So edit! -- Jmabel | Talk 06:02, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I have done a major expansion, adding a lot of criticism and some praise. While I'll freely admit that I myself am not necessarily unbiased against de Soto, I've tried my best to be fair towards him and his followers. If anything turned out POV, I'll be glad to consent to any edits. I've also added quite a number of links that I found very interesting. I was considering taking out the nobel prize link, because that seems extremely unrealistic and it's a couple of years old, I decided to leave it in for the moment, but if other people agree, I'd suggest taking it out. bastel 05:17, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

 * Indian wars to the east, Indian wars to the west - the POV of this article swings back and forth! All I could do is add the fact that all sides of this issue have idealogical biases. --L. 21:14, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

 * One way to make the POV back and forth a little less jarring, and perhaps more professional, is to source the criticism. I notice a lot of pronouns, but I have no idea who "they" are. Presently it reads like two competing presuasive essays instead of an encyclopedia article. Coleca 11:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Someone dropped an entire interview into the article. May be a copyvio. Could someone look into this? Meanwhile, I've moved it to Talk:Hernando de Soto (economist)/interview -- Jmabel 15:30, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

& Marx
I've cut the following recently added passage:

"Of course, de Soto's own work is as dependent on Marx's central theorems, such as the role of capital. The brunt of criticism directed towards de Soto's theory revolves around the fact that it does not address inequality, as the World Bank's own redistribution with growth policies did."

 * "Of course" is pure POV.
 * I'm unaware of anything in de Soto's work that draws on a specifically Marxian understanding of capital, let alone on Marx's central theorems. Are you just talking about reinvestment of surplus, or what?
 * "…de Soto's theory… does not address inequality&hellip" Seems utterly wrong to me. He may disagree with some of us as to the causes and remedies of inequality, but he certainly presents himself as addressing precisely that.

Jmabel | Talk 01:34, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I'd like to point out that De Soto talks specifically about Marx contribution and its theory of capital in his book "The Mistery of Capital". In the first paperback edition at page 212 a subchapter is called "Facing up to Marx's Ghost". In it the author argues that Marx's theory on capital gives anticapitalists much better grounding to discuss and debate lack of capital availability for the poor. The subchapter ends with De Soto arguing that supporters of privatization should come to realize that capital inherent qualities derive from its legal recognition (the major point of the book) if they want to defend their achievements from a new generation of communists. I am not sure it's really worth of mention. It's really 3-4 pages of text. Not a central part of the book. CarrKnight (talk) 04:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Don't understand why de Soto is described as liberal or Marxist-influenced. His advocacy of property rights and records would seem to place him firmly in the capitalist category. Can we clarify this?Lynxx2 (talk) 20:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

Sources? Studies?
Could (should?) we have some more detail and/or sources for this?

 * Critics, however, argue that the so called Fujishock had devastating social consequences.

It looks vague and unsupported, as is.

Also, have any studies (preferably independent) been done assessing the impact of his work on poverty and the economy?

Take a look at Prof. Erica Field's work (Princeton and Harvard). Her stuff comes up on Google.

--Singkong2005 01:19, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

 * On critics of Fujishock, you might see Alberto_Fujimori. I believe that you can find citations there. -- Jmabel | Talk 06:35, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

One fairly standard and in depth critique of de Soto is: Bromley, Ray (1994): "Informality de Soto Style: From Concept to Policy", in: Rakowski, C.A. (eds.), Contrapunto. The Informal Sector Debate in Latin America, Albany, NY: State University of New York Press, 131-52. This one mentions some of the implications of de Soto style policies, too.

Most of the ILO overviews of the literature discuss the limitations of the "legalist" school, which they explicitly associate with de Soto, for example this report.

The "independent" studies is a tricky question, Bromley is an academic author, does that count? I think the Slate article mentions a couple of social scientists, too. bastel 18:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

In the “Main thesis” section, the entire paragraph beginning “What the poor majority…” appears to be from M. Ziauddin, The Dead Capital (Express Tribune, 1 Sep 2015). The text is not present in the Barry Smith reference given. Would fix this but I’m not well-versed in how it should be done, or how indeed the text should then stand in relation to that section. —Ben Hourigan (talk) 11:35, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

de Soto and Chavez?
I read this article on Venezuela which says this:
 * "In cities across the country neighborhoods are organizing, with help from the government, to draw up maps of the settlements where poor people have built houses on public land so they can get titles to their houses, thereby creating massive amounts of private property in the form of titled real estate. The government has been quite encouraging to capitalist development in general, seeing it as fundamental to a prosperous society."

This sounds to me like a de Sotoist plan. Does anyone know of de Soto's influence in Hugo Chavez' Venezuela? Seabhcán 11:29, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

POV insertions
The following edits by KDRGibby appear to be pure POV insertions. They are also not very well written. Some of the surrounding material also has POV problems: while I believe it to be an accurate summageion of what de Soto's critics say, it lacks attribution. KDRGibby's insertions, however, seem to be nothing more than his personal response to those critics, and the use of "should" seems particularly inappropriate. The previous wordings may have been weaselly as to attribution, but the additions are outright POV in the narrative voice of the article.

The additions are bolded in the following; I've also provided the relevant context.

 * The lack of a significant increase in lending to the poor by private banks leads critics to believe that his policies are oversold. Though they do not take into account possible regulatory interferences with the bank and problems with legal contract law.

 * Others have claimed that by legalizing the property of the poor, de Soto's policies have led to their land being subjected to higher taxes and regulations than they were in the informal economy, thus leading to more inefficiency than under an informal property regime. But this should not be viewed as a criticism of De Soto, but as a criticism of big government interference as De Soto criticizes.

My gut is simply to remove Gibby's passages, but I will allow a few days for someone to see if they can reword this in a way that is at least no worse than the surrounding material. - Jmabel | Talk 19:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

The following text seems especially loaded:

 * Populist leaders have used this failure of the free market system to wipe out poverty in the developing world to beat their "anti-globalization" drums. But the ILD believes that the real enemy is within the flawed legal systems of developing nations that make it virtually impossible for the majority of their people –and their assets– to gain a stake in the market. The people of these countries have talent, enthusiasm, and an astonishing ability to wring a profit out of practically nothing.

Lori (talk) 06:56, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Criticism Section
A criticism section aggressively defensive of de Soto is not a 'Criticism Section'. Haberstr 16:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC) Does this seem a bit long? I did not know that de Soto had so many mainstream detractors. Any sugegstions to prune/modify before I take my shears out? Torturous Devastating Cudgel 15:33, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

 * He's definitely a controversial figure, and I don't mean that in a disparaging way: he has many supporters and many detractors. He is pretty much the point man for the positive potential of "underground" free markets. This has led to opposition from two directions: on one hand, the legalists (and elite capitalists) who like markets but dislike and distrust these "irregular" markets that form among the poor, and, on the other hand, those who dislike or simply distrust market capitalism itself. Both groups doubt the efficacy of the policies he advocates, often for starkly contrasting reasons. - Jmabel | Talk 00:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I just rewrote this to include the citations for the various points of view that were mentioned and to eliminate some weasel words. Please feel free to add more, or re-insert some lines of thought that I may have inadvertently missed. It would be especially helpful to have sourced responses from de Soto and admirers. Either way, PLEASE attribute them to a certain person and avoid weasel words. Trailer1

DeSoto wants people who live on unregistered land in illegal housing, usually in slums, to have ownership rights to that land so they can borrow from banks. The problem is, when that happens, most of the holders then sell the land for needed cash. The result is that instead of helping the local people, we end up with a typical development project where the land is cleared and rebuilt. But the people wholived there have been further marginalized.

We need to face the fact that the current operation of capital is, on average, to concentrate wealth and increase poverty at the margins. As an Indian Economist I know has said "The international business community knows how to create wealth, but not how to distribute it." Dougcarmichael 02:24, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Article talk pages are for working on the article (and secondarily for making queries when you figure that someone watchlisting this article is a good candidate to answer your query). They are not intended as a place for general open-ended discussion and expression of personal opinions. - Jmabel | Talk 05:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Is Criticism really the correct heading for this section? No one seems to have issue with De Soto's point that property rights are a good thing. The "criticisms" posted either are directed to uneducated readers who interpert De Soto's advocaty of property rights as a silver bullet, or they claim that De Soto has overstated the benifits of property rights, but none that I saw said that property rights are a bad idea. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.0.45.160 (talk) 22:03, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism
The article has been vandalized repeatedly over the past few months, and there are still sentences missing in some places. It would be helpful if someone familiar with the article would give it a thorough review. Wachholder0 15:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

 * As of 20:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC) nothing looks vandalized (and unfixed) since late December. Can you be more specific about problems? Or perhaps they were fixed since your comment. - Jmabel | Talk 20:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

PHOTO
I don't know how to add photo's and am too busy today to learn, but de Soto has a great look, so someone should do a google image search and put one up. That's all. Thanks.

Puff Piece PR, not an article
This reads like public relations for De Soto and ILD, not an encyclopedia article about him/it. Even the "Criticisms" section (the best part of the article) seems heavily biased towards Hernando. There's no need to mention The Economist's lavish praise twice in one article. Economists (and legal scholars and others) have for 100 years emphasized the role of property rights as a fundamental building block for the poor and middle class. Neither intellectually nor in policy measures (designed nor implemented) has De Soto had as much impact as his ego/PR machine would like to claim. He labels as "enemies" those who call attention to all his PR efforts. That's pretty extreme language -- especially to apply to those who are simply 'calling a spade a spade.' DBrnstn 18:50, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I agree. specifically, what is irritating are the replies by pro-soto-authors in the critique section. it's not a debate-section. so shouldn't the critiques be left unassessed and stand for themselves? i list here an exemple from the article (but see as well the last long paragraph): In the Journal of Economic Literature, Christopher Woodruff of the University of California, San Diego criticized de Soto for overestimating the amount of wealth that land titling now informally owned property could unlock, and argues that "de Soto’s own experience in Peru suggests that land titling by itself is not likely to have much effect. Titling must be followed by a series of politically challenging steps. Improving the efficiency of judicial systems, rewriting bankruptcy codes, restructuring financial market regulations, and similar reforms will involve much more difficult choices by policymakers. "[13][29]

''This criticism is viewed by some to misjudge de Soto's official opinion. His book Mystery of Capital devotes the majority of its contents to the theory that political reform is by far the most significant element of property reform.''

Yes, much of this article reads like a promotional brochure for de Soto and his organization. It is an embarrassment to Wikipedia. Claims of the reach and impact of de Soto projects are far fetched. Also, many of de Soto's ideas are not original. This article should point out the many men and women who studied development of Peru's shanty towns and the titling issues long before de Soto. This would include José Matos Mar, William Mangin and John F. C. Turner. The fact that de Soto never acknowledges the prior work while hyping his own contributions, plus his failure to properly document facts and assertions in his published work, cast doubt on his claims and scholarship. Lastudies (talk) 09:44, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

 * This article if full of inflated claims about the subject's work; it has been crafted to exploit Wikipedia for self-promotion. Many of its claims for de Soto have been given citations to make them appear substantiated.  But, upon inspection, the references  are circular.  Many of the claims in this Wikipedia article link to unsupported claims by de Soto and his organization.  For example, the first claim in the section "Reforms in Peru and elsewhere" says that de Soto and ILD "were responsible for some four hundred ...."  Where does the 400 number come from?  It comes from the ILD.  The citation is to a PR blurb that appeared on a website called The Globalist.  The language is ILDs, and it is identical to the language in this Wikipedia article.  ILD seems to have written much of this Wikipedia article, and then for authority it references stuff copied from this Wikipedia article!

The next claim is that ILD's work in Peru benefited 1.2 million families and 380,000 businesses. These impressive accomplishments also are given a citation in the Wikipedia article. But, what is the authority for the claim? It is a speech given by de Soto himself. Part of the mystique surrounding de Soto outside Peru is ILD's claim that he confronted the Maoist Sendero Luminoso and helped defeat it. I don't believe this claim is taken seriously inside Peru. In Lima's shanty towns, it was unarmed grass roots activists, not Hernando de Soto, that had to confront Abimael Guzman's Shining Path terrorists. Many of the activists were leftists and some, like María Elena Moyano, paid with their lives. The supporting citation to de Soto's Sendero claim is the Economist of January 30, 2003 (Wikipedia article footnote 10). There de Soto claimed that he survived three attempts on his life. The article continued: "Mr de Soto concedes that it was lucky the Shining Path were so cruel to their potential supporters among the poor; Che Guevara would have been harder to beat, as 'he was a nice guy'." So, for de Soto, the Sendero murders of Moyano and others apparently were blessings. "Lucky," indeed, for de Soto. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lastudies (talk • contribs) 19:53, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
 * So a way to make clear that there are a number of sitations directly to Soto's own webpages is to not just make a citation, but to write something like Soto's group writes that it's responsible for blank. Then the next step would be to integrate the criticism section into the main body of the article - so instead of people having to wait until the end of the article (which some may not even scroll to), a claim by Soto's group is followed directly with a comment from a party that disagrees with the claim. That would balance the article.--RossF18 (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

I agree. This article is disgraceful, obviously written for promotion, clearly to create a favorable view of De Soto now that the Peruvian 2021 elections are coming up. De Soto oftentimes boasts the international recognition of his work. Obviously, now we know why.Amalamagama69 (talk) 20:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

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De Soto or De Soto Polar
Someone has appeared to have moved the page back to Hernando de Soto (economist). He is most comonly known as Hernando de Soto Polar to outside media outlets. The outside world outlets count, too. It's not only Peru. I will revert the move back to Hernando de Soto Polar.

Sorry if I made anyone angry Mausebru (talk) 23:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

According to the sources in the article there is not even a mention of his second surname, so it is incorrect to say that he is better known by his full name. You have to show sources to prove that it is better known by the name that you say is more common. Besides, since the transfer was reversed, you have to open a transfer inquiry to change the name of the article and not reverse the transfer of the other user. --2x2leax (talk) 23:31, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Nobel Prize
This is minor compared to the larger puff piece argument, which I agree with, but Nobel prize finalists in economics are not made public for 50 years. The cited source is just repeating his PR claims without further validation. That should be removed. Since finalists are private, I don't know who they were in 2002, but Nobels are not awarded for the type of work he does. It's an implausible claim without validation. 73.229.169.126 (talk) 21:22, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

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Ancient Order of Hibernians

The Ancient Order of Hibernians (AOH; Ord Ársa na nÉireannach ) is an Irish Catholic fraternal organization. Members must be male, Catholic, and either born in Ireland or of Irish descent. Its largest membership is in the United States, where it was founded in New York City in 1836.

The name was adopted by groups of Irish immigrants in the United States, its purpose to act as guards to shield Catholic churches from anti-Catholic forces in the mid-19th century, and to assist Irish Catholic immigrants, especially those who faced discrimination or harsh coal mining working conditions. Many members in the coal mining area of Pennsylvania allegedly had a background with the Molly Maguires. It became an important focus of Irish American political activity.

Origins
The organization had its roots in the Defenders and the Ribbonmen, Catholic agrarian movements of the 18th and 19th centuries. It emerged in Ulster at the end of the 19th century in opposition to the Orange Order. It was organized by Joseph Devlin of Belfast, who was Grand Master by 1905. The AOH was closely associated with the Irish Parliamentary Party, its members mainly members of the party. It was strongly opposed to secular ideologies such as those of the Irish Republican Brotherhood (the IRB), who were most unhappy at the re-emergence of this old rival "right-wing" nationalist society.

From a membership of 5,000 in 1900, nearly all in Ulster, it climbed to 64,000 by 1909, complementing the United Irish League. By 1914 the order had spread throughout the country, mainly because of its utility as a patronage, brokerage and recreational association. As a vehicle for Irish nationalism, the AOH greatly influenced the sectarian aspect of Irish politics in the early twentieth century. In Ulster and elsewhere it acted as an unruly but vigorous militant support organization for Devlin, Dillon and Redmond against radicals and against William O'Brien: O'Brien regarded himself as having been driven from the party by militant Hibernians at the "Baton Convention" of 1909.

The ceremonial aspects of the Order resembled those of the Orange Order with green replacing orange on sashes and banners. This led to opponents such as Jim Larkin calling it the "Ancient Order of Catholic Orangemen".

After 1916
After the 1916 Easter Rising the organisation declined outside of Ulster, its members absorbed into Sinn Féin and the Irish Republican Army (the IRA). In many areas the organisation provided by the AOH was the nearest thing to a paramilitary force. On the other hand, on 13 June 1916 Joe Devlin chaired an AOH Convention in Dublin that approved the proposed partition of Ireland by 475 votes to 265.

Many republican leaders in the 1916–1923 period, among them Seán Mac Diarmada, J. J. Walsh, and Rory O'Connor, had been "Hibs" before the formation of the Irish Volunteers in 1913.

The AOH is also significant as a link between the new nationalist organisations and the century-old tradition of popular militant societies. More directly, it lingered on as a pro-Treaty support organisation. Some Hibernians fought in the Irish Brigade in the Spanish Civil War. The quasi-Fascist Blueshirts movement of the 1930s may, in fact, have owed as much to the Ribbon tradition which it so much resembled, as it did to continental analogies.

Recent decades
Within Ulster generally, but especially within Northern Ireland, the AOH remains a visible but somewhat marginal part of the Catholic community. It parades at Easter, Lady Day and a few other times a year.

At the beginning of The Troubles, the AOH placed a voluntary ban on its members parading until 1975, though records of some parades taking place in defiance of the ban were reported. In 1978 an estimated 10,000 participants attended a parade in Kilrea. Since then there has been a rapid decrease of numbers and usually around 20 divisions parade at a single location.

The locations of AOH parades in Northern Ireland generally tend to be cities with a high Catholic population, coupled with the AOH's desire not to provoke trouble. County Fermanagh has never hosted an AOH parade since the onset of The Troubles and County Armagh has held one. The majority of the 21 locations for parades have been in counties Antrim, Down and Derry. On occasion when the parade has been held in an area with a significant loyalist population it has been met with an aggressive protest, notably Garvagh in 1985 and Armoy in 1989 which held its first AOH parade in 35 years.

Early years
The order was founded in the United States on 4 May 1836, at St. James Church in New York City, near the old Five Points neighbourhood. A branch was formed the same year at Pottsville, Pennsylvania. The existence and activities of the order were concealed for some years.

In 1850, members prevented the burning of St. Patrick's Old Cathedral by mobs of anti-Catholic Know Nothings.

During the late 1860s and early 1870s many of the lodges of the order in Pennsylvania were infiltrated by the Molly Maguires. However the Molly Maguires and their criminal activities were condemned at the 1876 national convention of the AOH and the order was reorganised in the Pennsylvania coal areas.

Split, reunion and auxiliary
In 1884 there was a split in the organisation. The order had previously been governed by the Board of Erin, which had governed the order in Ireland, Great Britain and the United States, but was composed of officers selected exclusively by the organisations in Ireland and Great Britain. The majority left in 1884 and became the Ancient Order of Hibernians of America, while the small group called itself Ancient Order of Hibernians, Board of Erin. In 1897 the Ancient Order of Hibernians, Board of Erin, had approximately 40,000 members concentrated in New York, New Jersey, Ohio, Illinois and Michigan, while the Ancient Order of Hibernians of America had nearly 125,000 members scattered throughout nearly every state in the union. The two groups reunited in 1898.

A female auxiliary, the Daughters of Erin, was formed in 1894, and had 20,000 members in 1897. It was attached to the larger, "American" version of the order.

In 1898, the Port Richmond Division 87 was formed in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. It remains one of the oldest continuously chartered divisions within the Philadelphia County Board and Pennsylvania State Board.

The Ladies Auxiliary of the Ancient Order of Hibernians raised $50,000 to build the Nuns of the Battlefield sculpture in Washington, D.C., which the United States Congress authorised in 1918. The Irish-American sculptor, Jerome Connor, ended up suing the order for non-payment.

John F. Kennedy joined the AOH in 1947. The AOH's national chaplains have included prominent clergymen such as Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen and Cardinal Francis Spellman.

1960s onwards
The AOH had 181,000 members in 1965, and 171,000 in 736 local units or "Divisions" in 1979.

U.S. Congressman Mario Biaggi received the Ancient Order of Hibernians Friend of the Irish Award in 2011.

In 1982, in a revival of Hibernianism, the Thomas Francis Meagher Division No. 1 formed in Helena, Montana, dedicated to the principles of the order and to restoring a historically accurate record of Brigadier General Meagher's contributions to Montana. Soon after, six additional divisions formed in Montana.

The Brothers of St. Patrick Division of the Ancient Order of Hibernians in America was established at Brothers of St. Patrick in Midway City, California, in 1995.

In 2002, the Fr. Bernard Donnelly Division was established in Johnson County, Kansas dedicated to community service and reintroducing Hibernianism to Kansas. Its name honors the founder of Kansas City's Irish Community, Fr. Bernard Donnelly (c. 1800–1880), an immigrant from County Cavan.

In 2013, The Ancient Order of Hibernians raised and distributed over $200,000 to aid victims of Hurricane Sandy.

In 2014, the AOH called for a boycott of the retailer Spencer's for selling products the AOH says promote anti-Irish stereotypes and irresponsible drinking.

On 10 May 2014 a memorial to John Barry, an immigrant to the US from Wexford who was a naval commander of the American Revolution and who holds commission number one in the subsequent U.S. Navy, was dedicated on the grounds of the United States Naval Academy. The memorial and associated "Barry Gate" was presented to the academy by the members of the Ancient Order of Hibernians.

On 17 August 2017, the John Fitzgerald Division was chartered in Lincoln, Nebraska.

In 1997, the first division in Tennessee, the James Dardis Division No. 1, was formed in Knoxville Tennessee.

On 23 April 2019, the first division in Arizona, No. 1, was formed in Phoenix, Arizona. The division was formed on the grounds of the Irish Cultural Center.

St Patrick's Day parade
The order organised the New York City St. Patrick's Day Parade for 150 years until 1993, when control was transferred to an independent committee amid controversy over the exclusion of Irish-American gay and lesbian groups and after Mayor Dinkins for that reason had boycotted the 1992 parade.

Buildings
Several buildings of the Ancient Order of Hibernians are listed on the U.S. National Register of Historic Places or are otherwise notable.

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Long Pond, Pennsylvania

Long Pond is an unincorporated community in Monroe County in the Pocono Mountains region of Pennsylvania, a part of the Appalachian Mountains. Long Pond is located within the Tunkhannock Creek Watershed. Its ZIP code is 18334.

Geography
Long Pond is named after the wetland topography formed by Tunkhannock Creek. Within the Long Pond community are public access lands,   containing many species of plants and animals. Long Pond has been called "the most unique inland freshwater wetland in the state".

The climate of Long Pond is variable, and ecosystems vary considerably. Ecosystems range from glacial till barrens habitat, known for frost pockets and unique species and associated insects. Mixed hardwood deciduous forests and vast peat bog swamps. Frost pockets can occur in this region in typically frost free months of June, July, and August.

Demographics
Long Pond is a sparsely populated, rural area. It has a population of about 7,000 people, and the demographics are approximately: 54.6% Caucasian/White, 26.4% African American,5% Asian, and 13% Hispanic. At $180,000 the average home value here is a bit higher than average. The median age is 39. The median age for men is 38 while for women the median age is 40.

Economy
Economically, Long Pond is primarily known as the location of Pocono Raceway, a track which hosts an annual NASCAR Cup Series race, the Pocono 400, in July, and other events. The track formerly hosted a second NASCAR Cup Series race, the Pocono 325, and an IndyCar race, the Pocono 500.

In July 1972 the Concert 10 rock festival brought thousands to Long Pond. Edgar Winter, Three Dog Night, the Faces featuring Rod Stewart, and others performed during the two day festival.

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Norman Malcolm

Norman Adrian Malcolm (11 June 1911 – 4 August 1990) was an American philosopher.

Biography
Malcolm was born in Selden, Kansas. He studied philosophy with O. K. Bouwsma at the University of Nebraska, then enrolled as a graduate student at Harvard University in 1933.

At Cambridge University in 1938–9, he met G. E. Moore and Ludwig Wittgenstein. Malcolm attended Wittgenstein's lectures on the philosophical foundations of mathematics throughout 1939 and remained one of Wittgenstein's closest friends. Malcolm's memoir of his time with Wittgenstein, published in 1958, is widely acclaimed as one of the most captivating and most accurate portraits of Wittgenstein's remarkable personality.

After serving in the United States Navy from 1942 to 1945, Malcolm, with his wife, Leonida, and their son, Raymond Charles Malcolm, resided in Cambridge again in 1946–47. He saw a good deal of Wittgenstein during that time, and they continued to correspond frequently thereafter. In 1947, Malcolm joined the faculty at Cornell University, where he taught until his retirement. In 1949, Wittgenstein was a guest of the Malcolms in Ithaca, New York. In that year Malcolm introduced O. K. Bouwsma to Wittgenstein. Bouwsma remained close to Wittgenstein until Wittgenstein's death in 1951.

Philosophical work
In 1959, his book Dreaming was published, in which he elaborated on Wittgenstein's question as to whether it really mattered if people who tell dreams "really had these images while they slept, or whether it merely seems so to them on waking". This work was also a response to Descartes' Meditations.

Other than that he is known for propagating the view that common sense philosophy and ordinary language philosophy are the same. He was generally supportive of Moore's theory of knowledge and certitude, though he found Moore's style and method of arguing to be ineffective. His critique of Moore's articles on skepticism (and also on Moore's 'Here is a hand' argument) lay the foundation for the renewed interest in common sense philosophy and ordinary language philosophy.

Malcolm was also a defender of a modal version of the ontological argument. In 1960 he argued that the argument originally presented by Anselm of Canterbury in the second chapter of his Proslogion was just an inferior version of the argument propounded in chapter three. His argument is similar to those produced by Charles Hartshorne and Alvin Plantinga. Malcolm argued that a God cannot simply exist as a matter of contingency but rather must exist in necessity if at all. He argued that if God exists in contingency then his existence is subject to a series of conditions that would then be greater than God and this would be a contradiction (referring to Anselm's definition of God as That than which Nothing Greater can be Conceived).

Publications
His works include:
 * Ludwig Wittgenstein: A Memoir
 * Moore and Ordinary Language
 * Wittgenstein: A Religious Point Of View?
 * Nothing Is Hidden: Wittgenstein's criticism of his early thought
 * Problems of Mind: Descartes to Wittgenstein
 * Knowledge and Belief
 * Consciousness and Causality (with D. M. Armstrong)
 * Memory and Mind
 * Dreaming and Skepticism
 * Wittgenstein: The Relation of Language to Instinctive Behaviour (J.R.Jones Memorial Lecture) Publisher: University of Wales, Swansea (Dec 1981) ISBN 0860760243
 * Thought and knowledge
 * Wittgensteinian themes (edited by Georg Henrik von Wright) and Dreaming.

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a cappella
I'd be happy to see you adding quality, well-referenced articles about a cappella to wikipeida. My main concern with the articles I have been nominating for deletion has been that the articles were derivative of the information available on the group's websites or written from the personal experience of the members rather than from independent published sources. As for specific sources (and there's no reason you need to consider my opinion authoritative), I would prefer that you not cite sources like IMDb and personal webistes, although the game credits are obviously reasonable. Published sources (either books or periodicals) are of course the most prefered. Savidan 22:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Gary Radnich
In the future, please inform me when mentioning my name on various noticeboards. I've re-opened your thread at WP:BLP/N as I have only now become aware of it. — CharlotteWebb 02:07, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

speedy tags
You should not remove speedy deletion tags from articles you have created yourself. The hangon tag was the appropriate choice. A good read would be the criteria for speedy deletion, which gives the various reasons an article can be deleted quickly from Wikipedia. It's possible that the other editor will still nominate the article for deletion under the articles for deletion process, which is a five-day, open discussion about the status of the article. AfD's can have a variety of outcomes between keep and delete, including keep with caveats, merge, redirect, etc.

That said, the other editor's point that the article is currently mostly unsourced is an important one. I would suggest trying to find reliable sources about this person to flesh out the article. One English language source would probably be appreciated by other editors, especially if this article is nominated for deletion. Although I'm not aware of any requirement that sources be in English, that does not mean that such a requirement does not exist. Natalie 23:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should have actually checked the page history - for some reason I thought you had created the page. In that case, it is acceptable to remove the speedy tag, but I think it's considered polite to give a reason on the talk page (unless it's an incredibly obvious bad faith speedy nom) or possibly get in touch with the person who tagged it and explain your reasoning. Natalie 23:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

WoW Glider
I heard about it on The Instance Podcast (TheInstance.net) who have GM's who supply them with leaked information, however that's sketchy. But they said they read about it on WoW Insider. Let me do a bit of research for a sec. Maurauth 17:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Yeah that appears so now, I thought it was fishy, but the show was released on the 3rd of April, not the first. Maurauth 18:06, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

stop putting a speedy deletion on my article you moron. Are you so smug and self important that you have to tag everything you dont understand? The Pleasuredrome is London's premier gay sauna and I'm in the midst of documenting it. I would appreciate it if you would leave the page be. Pearcedolan]]

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By all means, feel welcome to join. You don't need a formal invitation. Peter G Werner 06:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Your note
If you could e-mail me a couple of the links, that would be very helpful, thank you. SlimVirgin (talk) 23:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Sterling Johnson Jr.
That's really odd for a U.S. District Court to be claiming copyright in anything. Agencies of the U.S. Government aren't supposed to do that. In any case, we shouldn't ever cut-and-paste from other sources, even if there's no copyright issue, for reasons of style and formatting if nothing else. Thanks, NawlinWiki 18:13, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Arbuthnot AfD
It's not a guideline, it's partisan voting.  One Night In Hackney 303 20:21, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

My RfA
Hi JavaTenor. I'd like to thank you for your support of my RfA. It was closed at surprising 75/0/0, so I'm an admin now. Max S em 22:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Gracenotes RFA
I can see where you're coming from. I've struck the comment. Frise 00:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

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 * It is my humble opinion that reverting somebody's copying of the content from Ray Allen to Allan Ray was indeed a legitimate edit, but I will allow the reader of this talk page to draw his or her own conclusions about my discretion. :) JavaTenor 16:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Much appreciated. ;^) Crum375 01:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

My RfA ...
Hi. Thanks for supporting my request for adminship. It was successful and I am now an admin. If I can ever be of help, please let me know. Cheers, Black Falcon (Talk) 06:56, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

About radical values environmentalism
The text in this article appeared in a philosophy article about values. It was clearly (to me, at least) way off-topic. It addressed none of the standard philosophical issues. So, I placed it in a separate article, linked from the philosophy article. It might be better merged into something about environmentalism, gaia, or something like that. The whole thing well-predated the current Wikipedian fashion of wanting references, so there was no articulable reason for deletion at the time. So, briefly, if you make it a candidate for deletion, it's no problem for me. Ray Van De Walker 18:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thank you for your support in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 50 supports, 1 neutral, and 1 oppose. My goal is to keep earning your trust every time I grab the "mop". (And I'm always open to constructive criticism and advice!)

Also, big thanks for spending time on the Dead End Pages. --Fabrictramp 16:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Bigfoot Networks
Okay, thanks for letting me know. -- Tckma 19:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Hi, thanks for supporting my RfA, which passed 63 to 1. I really appreciate that you wrote such nice things about me. I hope that I am doing good so far. Bearian 20:46, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

My recent RfA
Thank you for supporting my RfA, which unfortunately didn't succeed. The majority of the opposes stated that I needed more experience in the main namespace and Wikipedia namespace, so that is what I will do. I will go for another RfA in two month's time and I hope you will be able to support me then as well. If you have any other comments for me or wish to be notified when I go for another RfA, please leave them on my talk page. If you wish to nominate me for my next RfA, please wait until it has been two months. Thanks again for participating in my RfA! -- Cobi(t 01:44, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. 69.181.183.206 07:15, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what this is referring to; I've responded on your talk page. JavaTenor 07:21, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks much, folks! Happy editing! —  Music  Maker  5376  04:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Hee hee hee...
What can I say? I hates acronymia. HalfShadow 03:53, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Admin coach
Are you still interested in being an admin? I saw your request on the requests page, and after taking a look at your contributions, decided that I'd be willing to coach you. Are you up to it?  bibliomaniac 1  5  18:43, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll create a subpage for you at User:JavaTenor/Admin coaching. We can also communicate via e-mail, if that's what you'd prefer. Since we both live in California, it'll probably be easier to communicate on Wiki anyway. Admin coaching is mostly questions and possible scenarios, so there's a lot of answering to do.  bibliomaniac 1  5  21:26, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. I'll answer the questions later this evening (I have to leave the house for a few hours this afternoon). JavaTenor 21:37, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * You don't need to tell me. I'll check the page periodically, and I have it on my watchlist.  bibliomaniac 1  5  05:55, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I posted some new questions on the page that you haven't replied to yet.  bibliomaniac 1  5  00:52, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Still thinking about the essay, or should I go on?  bibliomaniac 1  5  04:06, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I haven't come up with anything good on the essay front yet, so if there's another project you'd like me to work on in the meantime, that would be fine. JavaTenor (talk) 07:02, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Queluz National Palace
This article, to which you contributed, will be featured on the Main Page on January 5, 2008. Risker (talk) 17:50, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Tyler Padalecki
Upon further examination (thanks to your message), I think this is probably a valid G3. If there was even a shred of evidence that "Tyler Padalecki" was an alternate name of Sam Jones, I'd change it to a redirect, but there really doesn't seem to be anything. I'll delete it - thanks for bringing this error to my attention. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 11:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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The article I added is from FTS (www.fts-soft.com) and on behalf by them (I am assisting them in publications). Like other companies we wish to register in Wikipidia and this is the text we chosen. See for exmaple: Mind CTI and others. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Oe2k (talk • contribs) 13:31, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Twitter
Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize Pownce was already linked. Josephgrossberg (talk) 22:04, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Lucy's commercial
What most editors who support TTN's actions are looking for would be dfor you to take all those great references from the talk page of the article, and compose a couple of paragraphs using the real-world information within them to discuss the influences of the scene. All those articles seen to talk about the episode from the outside. Instead of, 'Then lucy did this, then this, then Ricky got upset', They talk about Ball's comedic performance, her timing, and so on. If you write about that, about the effect her style of comedy and presentation of the scene had on later comedians, comediennes, and sitcom production, then you'd be establishing notability. You got the sources, now you need to use them. ThuranX (talk) 01:08, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's the plan; I just haven't gotten around to it yet, so I've left it as a redirect until I have a chance to rewrite the article JavaTenor (talk) 16:58, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Keeping this part, about what you needed to know about what to do next, can stay here on talk. the actual 'how does this idea look' and back and forth about the actual added text, can go on the article talk page. I will add it to my watchlist now, and will know if you are posting stuff and editing the page. As for your time and schedule, no worries, real life is always more important. ThuranX (talk) 22:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Ringo Star
Thanks kindly for the notice, but you've made a mistake. I didn't create the article you're trying to delete -- I only created the page called Ringo Star as a redirect to Ringo Starr. You may want to send a note to the actual creator instead, since I have no opinion at all on the article, though if you do end up deleting it I ask that you remember to recreate it as a convenience redirect to the actual Ringo's article. regards — Dan | talk 17:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see that now; apologies for bothering you with the Twinkle auto-message. It appears to have been redirected already, which is a reasonable result in my opinion. JavaTenor (talk) 02:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hi! I read your comments a while ago about Little Fatty and other "unwilling internet phenomena"

Since Little Fatty has grown to accept his role in an internet meme and freely engaged in interviews about it, and because he has now become a celebrity in China, I chose to re-establish a standalone article for him. He hired an individual as his agent and made a choice to become a public figure and promote himself.

From my understanding Star Wars Kid does not mention the kid's name because the kid never liked what happened to him, never interviewed about it, became extremely angry, and took legal action against other parties.

In the case of Little Fatty the kid grew to accept his role in an internet meme, discussed when he liked the photoshop touches and when he didn't, and even became a movie star.

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North Franklin Township

North Franklin Township may refer to:

 * North Franklin Township, Franklin County, Nebraska, in Franklin County, Nebraska
 * North Franklin Township, Pennsylvania

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Carlos Latuff

Carlos Latuff (Arabic: كارلوس لطوف; born 30 November 1968) is a Brazilian political cartoonist. His work deals with themes such as anti-Western sentiment, anti-capitalism, and opposition to U.S. military intervention in foreign countries. He is best-known for his images depicting the Israeli–Palestinian conflict and the Arab Spring.

Latuff's cartoons comparing Israel to Nazi Germany have been labelled as antisemitic by a number of advocacy organizations, which have criticized Latuff's work as attempting to trivialize the atrocities of the Holocaust. Latuff has dismissed the charges as "a strategy for discrediting criticism of Israel" and stated that his drawings, particularly at the 2006 International Holocaust Cartoon Competition in Tehran, were to highlight similarities between the status of Jews in German-occupied Europe and the status of Palestinians in the Israeli-occupied territories.

Early life
Latuff was born in the São Cristóvão neighbourhood of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, and is of Lebanese descent. He has stated that his "Arab roots" are what drive him to advocate for Arab causes, including the Palestinian cause.

History
Latuff began as a cartoonist for leftist publications in Brazil. After watching a 1997 documentary about the Zapatistas in Mexico, he sent a couple of cartoons to them, and received a positive response. He has stated that after this experience, he decided to start a website and engage in "artistic activism". Graham Fowell, ex-chairman of the Cartoonists' Club of Great Britain, has compared his work to that of Banksy, the English-based graffiti artist.

In 2011, Latuff was contacted by activists in Egypt. Latuff has stated that he was encouraged when he saw some of his cartoons depicted in the January 25 Egyptian protests, a couple of days after he made them. According to Reuters, this helped him become "a hero of the tumultuous Arab Spring with rapid-fire satirical sketches".

Latuff has been arrested at least three times in Brazil for his cartoons about the Brazilian police, whom he has criticized for police brutality.

Published works
Latuff's works have often been self-published on Indymedia websites and private blogs. He is a weekly cartoonist for The Globe Post and some of his cartoons have been featured in magazines such as the Brazilian edition of Mad, Le Monde Diplomatique and the Mondoweiss website. In addition, a few of his works were published on Arab websites and publications such as the Islamic Front for the Iraqi Resistance (JAMI) magazine, the Saudi magazine Character, the Lebanese newspaper Al Akhbar, among others. Additionally, Latuff also contributes to several Middle Eastern newspapers, including Alquds Alarabi, Huna Sotak and the Islamophobia Research and Documentation Project – IRDP. In 2019 a selection of his cartoons was published in the book Drawing Attention to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: Political Cartoons by Carlos Latuff. His work is also published on the Chinese Twitter account Valiant Panda heavily shared by Chinese: state affiliated media, government officials, and embassies.

Themes
A large number of Latuff's cartoons are related to the Israeli–Palestinian conflict, an issue which assumed significance for the cartoonist after a visit to the region in the late 1990s. His cartoons are highly critical of Israel.

Latuff has created a series of cartoons criticizing United States president George W. Bush, Brazilian president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, and British prime minister Tony Blair, among other politicians.

Latuff is critical of U.S. military action in Iraq and in Afghanistan. He began to publish his work on the web from the earliest stages of the invasion. Latuff says, "war is not a video game, and technofetishism is not to be celebrated, but exposed."

In his comic series Tales of Iraq War (حكايات من حرب العراق) he portrays "Juba, the Baghdad sniper",  an Iraqi insurgency character claimed to have shot down several dozen US soldiers, as a "superhero". He has also made a caricature of US President George W. Bush laughing over US casualties.

Since the end of 2010, he has been engaged in producing cartoons about the Arab Spring in which he sided with the revolutionaries. After the victory of revolutions in Tunisia, Egypt and Libya his cartoons about these countries have focused on the menace of counter-revolution or Western interference. Some of his cartoons have been displayed in mass demonstrations in Arab countries.

Allegations of antisemitism

The profile gained by Latuff's cartoons has led to accusations of antisemitism. Adam Levick, a writer for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, alleged that the cartoons contained antisemitism and antisemitic motifs. Ian Black of The Guardian opined in 2008 that Latuff was uninhibited in his utilization of "judeophobic stereotypes in the service of the anti-globalisation movement."

In 2002 the Swiss-based Holocaust survivors' organization Aktion Kinder des Holocaust sued the Indymedia of Switzerland on the charge of antisemitism for publishing Latuff's cartoon titled We are all Palestinians series in their website, which depicted a Jewish boy in the Warsaw Ghetto saying: "I am Palestinian." The criminal proceedings were suspended by Swiss court.

In their 2003 Annual Report, the Stephen Roth Institute compared Latuff's cartoons of Ariel Sharon to "the antisemitic caricatures of Philipp Rupprecht in Julius Streicher's Der Stürmer." The SRI also complained over a cartoon showing Argentinian revolutionary Che Guevara in a Palestinian keffiyeh.

In December 2006, Latuff gained the joint-second prize for his cartoon comparing the West Bank barrier with the Nazi concentration camps at the Iranian International Holocaust Cartoon Competition showing an Arab male as an inmate. Latuff's entry was described as "Holocaust inversion," a "motif" of antisemitism, by Manfred Gerstenfeld.

Joel Kotek, a professor at Belgium's Free University of Brussels, in his book Cartoons and Extremism calls Latuff "the contemporary Drumont of the internet." Journalist Édouard Drumont was the founder of the Antisemitic League of France. Eddy Portnoy, in The Forward, reviewing the book in 2008, wrote that Latuff's material is "often terribly obnoxious... but it is a stretch to categorize his cartoons as antisemitic."

British author Dave Rich has described Latuff's cartoons as regularly using antisemitic imagery. In 2015, the Middle East Monitor (MEMO) campaign group used one of Latuff's cartoons comparing Israel to Nazi Germany which also made use of a Jewish or Zionist octopus, an anti-semitic trope.

Latuff's response

Latuff, in an interview with the Jewish-American weekly newspaper The Forward in December 2008, responded to charges of antisemitism and the comparisons made between his cartoons and those published in Der Stürmer in Nazi Germany:

"My cartoons have no focus on the Jews or on Judaism. My focus is Israel as a political entity, as a government, their armed forces being a satellite of U.S. interests in the Middle East, and especially Israeli policies toward the Palestinians. It happens to be Israeli Jews that are the oppressors of Palestinians... My detractors say that the use of the Magen David in my Israel-related cartoons is irrefutable proof of antisemitism; however, it’s not my fault if Israel chose sacred religious motifs as national symbols, such as the Knesset Menorah or the Star of David in killing-machines like F-16 jets."

Latuff also stated that antisemitism is real, that antisemites like European neo-Nazis, "hijack" the Palestinian cause to bash Israel. However, to assert that anti-Zionism is antisemitic is, in his view, "a well-known tactic of intellectual dishonesty." He said that political cartoonists work by metaphors, and that similarities can be found between the IDF treatment of Palestinians and what Jews experienced under the Nazis. Such comparisons are not created by cartoonists, he said, but can be made by the viewer. He instanced the fact that a Holocaust survivor like Tommy Lapid reacted to the image of a Palestinian woman foraging in the rubble by thinking of his grandmother who was murdered in Auschwitz. The use of cartoons insulting Muslims by depicting Muhammad as a bomber is defended as "freedom of speech", while using the Holocaust in drawings is deplored as "hatred against the Jews".

Latuff was included in Simon Wiesenthal Center's 2012 Top Ten Anti-Israel/Anti-Semitic Slurs list being placed third for depicting Israeli premier Benjamin Netanyahu squeezing votes out of a dead Arab child. Latuff told Brazil's Opera Mundi newspaper that he considered the award "a joke worthy of a Woody Allen movie". He also said that Zionist lobbying groups try to associate him with well-known extremists and racists in order to disqualify his criticism of the Israeli government. He also said figures such as José Saramago, Desmond Tutu and Jimmy Carter were also accused of being antisemitic, saying that he was "in good company".

Prizes

 * Latuff received joint-second prize in the antisemitic parody International Holocaust Cartoon Competition.

Publications

 * Drawing attention to the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: Political Cartoons by Carlos Latuff, 2019, ISBN 9780993186646.

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Phra That Si Song Rak

Phra That Si Song Rak (พระธาตุศรีสองรัก, literally means the Stupa in Honour of Two Loves;(ພຣະທາດສຼີສອງຮັກ)Phra That Sri Song Hak in Lao, and varied other spellings) is a Buddhist stupa built in c. 1560 by King Setthathirath of Lan Xang and King Maha Chakkraphat of Ayutthaya. It is located on the Man River in Dan Sai district, Loei province of modern-day Thailand, 20 mi from the modern Thailand-Laos border. The name means "Stupa of Love from the Two Nations".

The ancient kingdoms of Lan Xang and Ayutthaya enjoyed a strong amount of common bond, and faced a common enemy: (the Burmese). In c. 1556, King Setthathirath of Lan Xang and King Maha Chakkraphat of Ayutthaya, decided to build a great temple celebrating a pact of mutual respect and defense between the two kingdoms. Phra That Sri Songrak was built on the border.

A stone inscription at the stupa reads:
 * The generations to come must not violate and dispossess territory of the other. They must not be greedy or act in a deceitful manner in their interaction until the sun and the moon fall down on this land.

When the French annexed Dan Sai district as part of colonial Laos, the inscription was taken to Vientiane. At some point it was shattered into fragments, and the remnants are maintained at Haw Phra Kaew Museum. A replica of the tablet now exists at Phra That Si Song Rak.

The stupa is roughly 20 m tall and 9 m wide at the base on each side.

Locals have held an annual offertory ritual and celebration at That Sri Songrak every May 15 for centuries. The celebration is a major Loei attraction.

Loei province uses the image of the stupa's tower in its provincial seal.

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Undangan bergabung Asuh Indonesia
halow halow pak priyadi kan bapak bapak nih.. mau ga gabung jadi admin Asuh Indonesia? http://asuh.wikia.com ini wiki utk ngumpulin info2 berkaitan dengan parenting. mau ya.. message aku aja tulung kasih tau username apa yg dipake di http://asuh.wikia.com ntar aku set jadi Administrator. Mau di set jadi Bureaucrat juga ga?Meutia Chaerani 10:53, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

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List of films set in New Jersey

This is a list of movies set or partially set in the U.S. state of New Jersey:

 * 13th Child (2002) – Film was shot in New Jersey at Wharton State Forest, Batsto Village, and Hammonton in the Pine Barrens
 * According to Greta (2009) - Ocean Grove, NJ - Asbury Park, NJ - Brick Township, NJ - Neptune, NJ - Point Pleasant, NJ
 * Across the Universe (2007) - Princeton University Campus
 * The Addams Family (2019)
 * The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension (1984)
 * A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001)
 * Alice, Sweet Alice (1976)
 * American Gangster (2007)
 * American Hustle (2013)
 * The Amityville Horror (1979) – Film is set in Long Island but partially filmed in Toms River
 * Analyze That (2002)
 * Analyze This (1999) - partially filmed in Hoboken, Jersey City, Montclair
 * Annie (1982)
 * Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters (2007)
 * Artie Lange's Beer League (2006)
 * Atlantic City (1944)
 * Atlantic City (1980)
 * Avengers: Endgame (2019)
 * Baby It's You (1983)
 * Bad Company (2002)
 * Ball of Fire (1941): mostly set in NYC, the inn where the main characters stay is in Kingston, New Jersey; their expected wedding venue is in Rancocas.
 * Bathing Beauty (1944)
 * Batman (1943) - The fictitious Gotham City is located in New Jersey.
 * Batman (1966)
 * Batman (1989)
 * The Batman (2022)
 * Batman and Robin (1949)
 * Batman and Robin (1997)
 * Batman Begins (2005)
 * Batman Forever (1995)
 * Batman Returns (1992)
 * Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
 * Be Kind Rewind (2008)
 * Beaches (1988)
 * A Beautiful Mind (2001)
 * Before I Self Destruct (2009)
 * Being John Malkovich (1999) - "You see the world through John Malkovich's eyes. Then after about 15 minutes, you're spit out into a ditch on the side of the New Jersey Turnpike!"
 * Big (1988) - parts were filmed in Cliffside Park
 * Big Top Scooby-Doo! (2012)
 * Birdy (1984)
 * Blinded by the Light (2019) - scenes set/filmed in Freehold and Asbury Park
 * Bogus (1996)
 * The Bounty Hunter (2010) - filmed partially in Atlantic City
 * Brainscan (1994)
 * Brewster's Millions (1985)
 * Broadway Danny Rose (1984)
 * Bruised (2020)
 * The Burglar (1957)
 * Burn After Reading (2008) - partially filmed in Paramus (gym scenes - Route 17)f
 * The Card Counter (2021)
 * The Cartel (2010)
 * Caught (1996) - Jersey City
 * Chasing Amy (1997)
 * Cheaper by the Dozen (1950)
 * Cinderella Man (2005)
 * City by the Sea (2002) - Asbury Park
 * City of Hope (1991) - takes place in fictitious Hudson City, New Jersey
 * Class of Nuke 'Em High (1986)
 * Clean and Sober (1988) - stars Michael Keaton and Kathy Baker; directed by Ron Howard; partially filmed in Gloucester City
 * Clerks (1994)
 * Clerks II (2006)
 * The Cohens and the Kellys in Atlantic City (1929)
 * The Color of Money (1986)
 * Coneheads (1993)
 * Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen (2004)
 * Convention City (1933)
 * Convention Girl (1935)
 * The Cookout (2004)
 * Cop Land (1997)
 * Cosmopolitan (2003)
 * Coyote Ugly (2000) - was given the name 'Jersey' because she was originally from South Amboy
 * The Crew (2000)
 * Da Hip Hop Witch (2000)
 * Dan in Real Life (2007)
 * The Dark Knight (2008)
 * The Dark Knight Rises (2012) – Filmed at Military Park station in Newark
 * Dark Ride (2006) - took place in Asbury Park
 * The Day the Earth Stood Still (2008)
 * Delivering Milo (2001)
 * Desperately Seeking Susan (1985)
 * Dogma (1999)
 * Donnie Brasco (1997) Clifton
 * Down the Shore (2011)
 * Duane Hopwood (2005)
 * Eddie and the Cruisers (1983)
 * Eddie and the Cruisers II: Eddie Lives! (1989)
 * Elizabethtown
 * Empire Records (1995)
 * Escape From New York (1981) - opening scene is supposed to be Bayonne
 * Fallen (1998) - Mullica Twp.
 * The Family Man (2000)
 * The Family Stone (2005) - Madison
 * Fatal Desire (2006)
 * Feel the Beat (2020)
 * The Fighter (2010)
 * Firstborn (1984)
 * Flight 93 (2006)
 * Forget About It (2006) - primarily filmed in Hoboken
 * Frame of Mind (2009) - Carlstadt
 * Frankenhooker (1990)
 * Freedomland (2006)
 * The Freshman (1990) - ending of movie is supposed to take place in Cherry Hill
 * Friday the 13th (1980) – Set in fictional Crystal Lake Camp, NJ; filmed in Hardwick, at No-Be-Bo-Sco camp
 * Friday the 13th (2009)
 * Funny Money (2006)
 * Garden State (2004)
 * Girl Most Likely (2012)
 * The Godfather: Part III (1990)
 * Gone Fishin' (1997)
 * Goodbye, Columbus (1969)
 * Gracie (2007)
 * Greetings from the Shore (2007) - based and shot in Lavallette
 * Guess Who (2005)
 * Gunshy (1998)
 * Gypsy 83 (2004)
 * Happiness (1998) - "You know, people are always putting New Jersey down. None of my friends can believe I live here. But that's because they don't get it: I'm living in a state of irony."
 * Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle (2004)
 * Hellboy (2004)
 * Homeboy (1988)
 * Hudson Hawk (1991)
 * The Hurricane (1999)
 * Hysterical Blindness (2002) - takes place in Bayonne
 * The Iceman (2012)
 * Imaginary Heroes (2004)
 * Imitation of Life (1934)
 * I.Q. (1994)
 * In & Out (1997) - Clinton, Montclair, Pompton Lakes, and other North Jersey locations
 * The In-Laws (1979)
 * Jaws - takes place in the small New England beach resort of Amity Island, but was based on the true story of a great white shark which terrorized the shores of New Jersey in the summer of 1916
 * Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001)
 * Jersey Boys (2014)
 * Jersey Girl (1992) - starring Jami Gertz and Dylan McDermott
 * Jersey Girl (2004) - directed by Kevin Smith, starring Ben Affleck
 * Jersey Shore Shark Attack (2012)
 * The Jimmy Show (2002)
 * Joe the King (1999)
 * Joker (2019)
 * Julie & Julia (2009) - Hoboken
 * Just Friends (2005)
 * Just The Ticket (1999) - Roselle Park
 * The Kill-Off (1990)
 * The King of Marvin Gardens (1972)
 * Lansdown (2002)
 * The Last Broadcast (1998)
 * The Last Time (2007)
 * Lean on Me (1989) Paterson
 * The Lemon Sisters (1990)
 * Lianna (1983)
 * Little Black Book (2004)
 * Live Free or Die Hard (2007)
 * Lock Up (1989)
 * Loins of Punjab Presents (2007)
 * The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996) - "Easy, sport. Got myself out of Beirut once, I think I can get out of New Jersey." "Yeah, well don't be so sure. Others have tried and failed. The entire population, in fact."
 * Mafioso (1962) - North Bergen
 * Mallrats (1995)
 * The Many Saints of Newark (2021)
 * Men in Black (1997)
 * Morning Glory (2010)
 * Mortal Thoughts (1991)
 * Moving (1988)
 * Música (2024)
 * The Nanny Diaries - Annie is a graduate of Montclair University
 * National Treasure (2004)
 * New Jersey Drive (1995)
 * New Jersey: The Movie (2009)
 * Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist (2008)
 * North (1994)
 * Not Fade Away (2012)
 * Nothing But Trouble (1991)
 * Now You Know (2002)
 * Ocean's Eleven (2001) - Danny Ocean is released from a prison in New Jersey
 * Old Dogs (2009) - partially filmed in Hoboken (Dan's apartment)
 * On The Waterfront (1954) - filmed in Hoboken, set in Brooklyn
 * One for the Money (2012)
 * Owning Mahowny (2003)
 * Palookaville (1995)
 * Paper Soldiers (2002)
 * Paterson (2016)
 * Paul Blart: Mall Cop (2009)
 * The Perfect Holiday (2007) - set in Jersey Gardens Mall
 * The Pick-up Artist (1987) - set in Atlantic City
 * Picture Perfect (1997) - Hoboken and West Orange
 * Pootie Tang (2001) - Old Bridge
 * The Prowler (1981) – Filmed in Cape May, New Jersey, though set in "Avalon", California; Seaville United Methodist Church and Southern Mansion Bed & Breakfast feature
 * The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)
 *  Ragtime (1981) - Spring Lake; James Cagney's last film
 * Raising Helen (2004)
 * Ransom (1996) - filmed throughout Bergen County
 * The Rebel Set (1959)
 * Restaurant (1998)
 *  Red River (1998)
 * Riding in Cars with Boys (2001) - East Orange (Upsala College)
 * Rocket Science (2007) - set in Plainsboro
 * Rounders (1998)
 * Running on Empty (1988)
 * Running Scared (2006)
 * Satan's Playground (2005) – Shot in Whitesbog in Burlington County
 * School of Rock (2003)
 * Second Best (2004)
 * The Secret Life of Walter Mitty (1947) - set in Perth Amboy
 * Sherrybaby (2006)
 * The Simian Line (2000)
 * Snake Eyes (1998)
 * Something Wild (1986)
 * The Soprano State (2010)
 * Spider-Man 3 (2007)
 * Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019) - Towards the end of the movie, Peter Parker and his classmates land in Newark, NJ.
 * Stardust Memories (1980) - filmed in Asbury Park, Belmar, Deal, Hoboken, Neptune City, Ocean Grove
 * The Station Agent (2003)
 * Stealing Home (1988)
 * Storytelling (2001)
 * Street Fight (2005)
 * Superman (1978)
 * Swimfan (2002)
 * This Thing of Ours (2003)
 * The Toxic Avenger (1984) and three sequels - "the first superhero from New Jersey"
 * Trade (2007)
 * Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (2009) - Sam Witwicky (Shia LaBeouf) attends Princeton University
 * Union City (1980)
 * United 93 (2006) - flight departs from Newark International Airport
 * Vision Quest (1985) - actually set in Spokane, WA, but the female lead says she's from Trenton
 * Voices (1979) - mostly filmed in Hoboken; Amy Irving, Michael Ontkean
 * Walking to the Waterline (1998)
 * War of the Worlds (2005) – One of four states where it was filmed; New Jersey locations included sites in Bayonne, Newark, and Howell Township in Monmouth County
 * The Wedding Singer (1998)
 * Welcome to the Dollhouse (1995)
 * Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken (1991)
 * Win Win (2011)
 * Winter Solstice (2004)
 * Wise Guys (1986)
 * The World According to Garp - scenes filmed in Denville movie theater and Madison City Hall
 * World Trade Center (2006) - Clifton
 * Ye Maaya Chesave (2010) - Princeton University at Princeton
 * Zoolander - partially filmed in Ogdensburg

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Hallo. Können Sie mir ein bisschen helfen?
Hallo!

Ich schreibe auf dieser Seite, denn ich bemerkt habe, dass Sie sind auf deiner Deutsche Seite nicht mehr aktiv.

Ich kenne, dass Sie auf Walisisch gut sprechen können, deshalb ich bitte um Hilfe. Ich brauche nur einige Texte aus den Walisischen Liedern schreiben (leider Ich spreche völlig kein Walisisch; die Lieder, aus den ich Texte brauche, sind nicht lange). Würdest du mir helfen?

Vielen Dank! Eniisi Lisika (talk) 15:06, 4 June 2018 (UTC) Eniisi

 * Gerne. Mailen Sie mir einfach! -- Picapica (talk) 21:18, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Ich konnte deinen E-mail auf der Seite nicht finden, deshalb ich da die Lieder verlassen werde (die Lieder sind aus den alten Karikaturen): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWupra-6GH0 und https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWVFzFrO0R8 Senden Sie die Texten zu baasakroto@gmail.com Vielen Dank! Eniisi Lisika (talk) 22:27, 4 June 2018 (UTC) Eniisi "der Adler"

 * Have replied to your email address. -- Picapica (talk) 10:13, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Die Krutische Sprache
Ich wartete auf eine e-mail von dir, aber ich habe es nicht bekommen, deshalb wieder screibe ich. Wollen Sie über meiner Sprache etwas schreiben oder fragen, bitte machen Sie das! :) Entschuldigung, wenn ich bin zu eifrig und habe nicht genug gewartet. Eniisi Lisika (talk) 17:52, 23 June 2018 (UTC) Eniisi
 * Eniisi, entschuldige bitte die Verspätung. Ich arbeite seit ein paar Tagen an der Phonologie deiner Sprache (wie du es auf deiner Webseite dargestellt hast) und werde mich bald diesbezüglich mit dir in Verbindung setzen. -- Picapica (talk) 06:21, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Vielen Dank! Ich schätze es wirklich sehr! Wenn Sie wollen, Sie können die Seite über der Sprache ergänzen und verändern. Es würde größe Hilfe für mich sein. Eniisi Lisika (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC) Eniisi

Alcester branch
Hi; I agreed with your point (made in 2017) about the Alcester branch not being an Alcester to Hatton line. As I sometimes get trolled over this kind of thing, I wonder if you would be prepared to make the change? I will add some material to the page afterwards. Alcester–Hatton branch line

While I'm here:

1) Impressive language capability. I find the celtic languages quite hard work. My favourite recent discovery is the Italian for corkscrew; "cavatappi". Nice word.

2) You say start a new section by pressing the + sign next to "edit this page". Couldn't find it. --Afterbrunel (talk) 09:38, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

 * Hi. Thanks for the reminder, and the support for my point of view! I've put it on my "to do" list (and will look at it soonest: tonight, if possible).
 * Yes, you're right about the lack of the + sign. It used to be there (and still is in the German Wikipedia for example) but the English Wp has clearly "evolved" while I wasn't looking. I'll change the wording now. -- Picapica (talk) 09:59, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

 * Thank you for your work. Afterbrunel (talk) 12:45, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Alcester–Hatton branch line
Please STOP making unreferenced changes that go against consensus. Useddenim (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * This kind of question-begging reminds me so much of "Have you stopped beating your wife?" :) -- Picapica (talk) 23:17, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 * So how is your wife feeling, these days? 8D Useddenim (talk) 00:24, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Oh, you know: usual method, the old tactile faculty? Still can't be beaten. -- Picapica (talk) 12:27, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Flint, Flintshire
Hello,

Earlier this year you commented on the origin of the name Flint (Flintshire). I'm a new editor I've put some detailed information on the matter in the talk page, (I'm a little frustrated by someone who appears to me to be acting a little unreasonably) i believe the sources I've referenced are indeed secondary/tertiary sources discussing the subject matter directly ( even the reference to the Calendar of the Chancelory Roll I'm calling on the commentary of the compiler as published in 1914) and there's 5 of them! In any case my intention is not to publish those points but discredit the original source and thus remove it from the page. Even if it is prevalent it surely can't be right it's included unchallenged if it can be obviously disproven? Surely wikipedia isn't a place for known misinformation? I feel I don't have the resources or experience to compete for this, so perhaps I may ask for you to share your opinion on the matter?

Kind Regards

Gareth Gar P Young (talk) 21:51, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Nsb next long-distance
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Talk:Hustle (dance)

Steps
I'm afraid, Jones and Kantonen got the steps wrong. I'll try to write smth. basic. Mikkalai 21:13, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

 * You're right, and I have corrected from other sources. Hyacinth 03:36, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Does anyone besides me disagree with the removal of the dance steps? Especially on the basis that reading the dance steps does not really make somebody know Hustle, it needs some videos and music examples. Hyacinth 09:32, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Links
"Van McCoy's song A line dance which was called Hustle became an international dance craze in 1975 following Van McCoy and the Soul City Symphony's "Hustle"."--This page links to itself. Perhaps the Hustle (dance) should be separated from the Hustle (song), leaving a short reference to the song and the link.

A lack of a separate song page also interrupts the links for Billboards #1 Hot 100 songsDOMICH 20:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

clockwise vs counter-clockwise?
''One difference between hustle and most other partner dances is that clockwise movements, for both the individual and the couple, predominate. Counter-clockwise movements predominate in most ballroom dances.'' This is not my experience. Waltz, foxtrot, and other dances seem to me to also mostly rotate clockwise. I removed it pending a citation otherwise. --NealMcB (talk) 15:48, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Support removal. Both statements are wrong. - 7-bubёn >t 16:38, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Self-outdating citations are a problem
The reference to "is coming back in popularity" (sans date) and "on the DVD commentary" are both problematic citations that outdate themselves as time and technology move forward. It would make more sense to say "as of the year..." and "in according to in a commentary on the film..." I realize not everyone may agree with this now, but they will eventually. ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.136.234 (talk) 12:09, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

New York Hustle section
The article says the count for the rock step starts on 1 in hustle but not swing. I learned both dances could be counted either way, i.e., you can start counting with the rock step in swing, if you want, and do the rock step on &3 in hustle. I don't think it is standardized. DQJK2000 (talk) 20:26, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Promotional changes
I suggest someone familiar with the subject matter review the changes made by 24.186.232.171 on 17 November 2016. The inclusion of a promotional link to a book website makes me skeptical of their value. --Lkseitz (talk) 20:05, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

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Talk:Phra That Si Song Rak

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Editorial decisions:

There are many different Anglicized spellings of Phra That Si Song Rak, both on the web and throughout WikiPedia. The one I finally used as title of the article is the one string that returned the most hits on Google. Ditto for Ho Phra Keo Museum in Vientiane.

Also, I cannot get sources to agree on the height of the tower. Half of the sources say 20 meters, the other half say 30 meters. I could not determine a set of more authoritative sources agreeing one way.

Either of these above issues are open for correction. (Please. :) )

I also cannot determine the location of the "Man River". Closest river that appears on maps is Mae Nam Pa Sak.

Oh, there are also differing translations of the name. I chose the one that seemed most related to the tower's history.

KeithTyler 21:13, May 28, 2004 (UTC)

Barf. There apparently is also some dispute as to who actually built the stupa. The article at Sourigna Vongsa has it differently. That is, if we're both talking about the same stupa in Dan Sai, Loei, commemorating a peace between two kingdoms. KeithTyler 21:17, May 28, 2004 (UTC)

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