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Talk:Kopete

this freshmeat page indicates that kopete 0.1 was announced at November 16th 2001

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 * I think we need all in all a more polished history, data as well as looking --TuX 17:19, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

roadmap
What is a roadmap for software doing in ENCYCLOPEDIA ???? You guys are nuts...

name?
The name is really weird. I have no idea where it comes from. How about mentioning where the name comes from?
 * Already done.--Chealer 08:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Really? Copete means drink?  Surely that should be copita.  --61.69.207.187 06:21, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * How is it pronounced? "ko pee tee" or "ko peet" Felipe1982 18:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * It is probably a Slang from [Chile]. From the 'Official Spanish Dictionary' [1|http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/SrvltConsulta?TIPO_BUS=3&LEMA=copete] copete is the foamy part on top of some drinks. It is pronounced (in spanish) ko-pe-te (the e like in Dr. Dre) PuercoPop (talk) 18:23, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * There used to be an audio sample in the FAQ, but the file seems to be gone. Here is an archived copy: kopete_en.ogg — Leen 94.212.249.212 (talk) 12:06, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Reverted addition of plugin descriptions
I reverted this addition of plugin descriptions by User:61.68.182.27 due to to the POV tone introduced. Most descriptions refer to "your" or "you". I'm sorry to remove this information, but I think it's better than to lose the NPOV tone. Please reword it. --Chealer 08:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

SMS? How do I get it?
I'm a user of KDE, and love Kopete. However, how do I get SMS with it? I'd love to integrate that with my use of other messaging, since my phone has a very awkward interface. Does anyone know where I can find the SMS plugin? --T3thys::ben 00:21, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

History
Should the whole history be here — is it really of interest to many people reading this article? Probably it should be on a kopete website (if an up-to-date one exists). I am not involved in the kopete project and put the back here to save the contents of the Kopete_Project_history from deletion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diggory Hardy (talk • contribs) 08:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

OS 	Unix-like/Windows
Is someone bullshitting? I see no information on a Windows version on the official website. 90.16.118.139 (talk) 15:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Me neither, and here it says as well Kopete doesn't support Windows Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients Cattleyard (talk) 15:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Apparently there is no Windows version of Kopete but a KDE installation which allows you to run Kopte on Windows with the help of KDE, see Cattleyard (talk) 11:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Kopete is part of KDE SC 4 (more specifically: the kdenetwork module). The whole SC4 available for multiple platforms, including FreeBSD, Mac OS X, and Windows. So instead of claiming that Kopete is Linux-only, you people (esp. Vlyalcin who did ) need to learn to do a proper research. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 00:51, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I dont bet anything. I didnt understand why you needed to specify me. I just wanted to be sure for about cross platform. Becouse I translated this content to Turkish. I read this discussion page before also. I thought this link is unoffical way to install KDE apps to Windows. Anyway, thank you for informations. Vlyalcin (talk) 14:07, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I needed to pick you because you did the recent edit without even looking at KDE SC 4 which clearly states without any doubt that the applications are available for multiple platforms. --KAMiKAZOW (talk) 04:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You need to learn how to speak properly to the persons first. Vlyalcin

Project history section
I removed the entire section "Project history". It is written as if it was taken straight out of the developer's logs. The writing style was very poor, probably because the section was pieced together. Also, I highly doubt anyone was really interested in the project's history in the manner given. The usage of "we" in the section was basically proof that one of the developers pasted the section in themselves. Ronark (talk) 03:04, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

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Philippe Verdelot

Philippe Verdelot (1480 to 1485–1530 to 1540) was a French composer of the Renaissance, who spent most of his life in Italy. He is commonly considered to be the father of the Italian madrigal, and certainly was one of its earliest and most prolific composers; in addition he was prominent in the musical life of Florence during the period after the recapture of the city by the Medici from the followers of Girolamo Savonarola.

Life
Verdelot was born in Les Loges, Seine-et-Marne, France. Details of his early life are obscure. He probably came to Italy at an early age, spending the first decade or two of the 16th century at some cities in northern Italy, most likely including Venice. A painting of 1511, described by Vasari but never positively identified, is believed by many musicologists to show Verdelot in Venice with an Italian singer.

Verdelot is known to have been maestro di cappella  at the Baptisterium San Giovanni in Florence from 1523 to 1525; and he seems also to have been employed at the Cathedral there, from 1523 until 1527. In 1526 he collaborated with Niccolò Machiavelli on a production of Machiavelli's famous cynical comedy La Mandragola. While the play was written in 1518, the 1526 performance in Florence was dedicated to the Medici pope, Clement VII. Both Machiavelli, expelled from Florence by the Medici, and Verdelot, generally sided with the Florentine Republic against the Medici, but attempted to play the delicate political game of pleasing both sides. The several pieces which Verdelot wrote for Machiavelli's play, while called canzone, are considered to be the earliest madrigals.

In addition to siding with the Florentine Republic, Verdelot was most likely a supporter of martyred reformer Girolamo Savonarola. This is shown by several of his works: his setting of In te domine speravi, based on the psalm which was the subject of that man's last writing before he was burned at the stake; and the use of the tune most closely associated with the monk, Ecce quam bonum, the song which unified his followers during his final conflict, and which appears in the inner voices in Verdelot's motet Letamini in domino.

Verdelot may have been killed in the siege of Florence (1529–1530) or in the simultaneous plague that ravaged the city, since there is no definite evidence that he was alive after 1530. That he was there during the siege has been considered likely on the evidence of one of his motets, composed around that time, Congregati sunt inimici nostri. In this work, texts from Ecclesiasticus are woven together with the Antiphon for Peace, "Da pacem Domine", which is used as a cantus firmus.

Some scholars infer that Verdelot was alive until about 1540, based on some ambiguous references to contemporary events in his works published during the 1530s. Several books of madrigals published in Venice in the late 1530s include his work; one of these books is devoted entirely to him. Possibly he moved to Venice after the siege to escape the notoriously vengeful, and victorious, Medici. He is known to have been dead by 1552, when writer Ortenzo Landi mentioned him as being deceased.

Music and influence
Verdelot, along with Costanzo Festa, is considered to be the father of the madrigal, an a cappella vocal form which emerged in the late 1520s from a convergence of several previous musical streams (including the frottola, the canzone, the laude, and also including some influence from the more serious style of the motet).

Verdelot's style balances homophonic with imitative textures, rarely using word-painting, which was largely a later development (though a few interesting foreshadowings can be found). Most of his madrigals are for five or six voices.

Verdelot's madrigals were hugely popular, as can be inferred from their frequency of reprinting and their wide dissemination throughout Europe in the 16th century. He also composed motets and masses.

Works
Verdelot's complete works were published by The American Institute of Musicology (edited by Anne-Marie Bragard).

Madrigaux

 * Benché ’l misero cor
 * Con lagrime e sospir
 * Divini occhi sereni
 * Donna leggiadra et bella
 * I vostr'acuti dardi
 * Italia mia bench'il parlar
 * Madonna il tuo bel viso
 * Madonna per voi ardo
 * Per altri monti
 * Perche piu acerba
 * Seule demeure et despourveue

Motets

 * Beata es Virgo Maria
 * Congregati sunt inimici nostri
 * Si bona suscepimus

Messes

 * Missa Philomna
 * Missa La Gloria del Dixit Dominus

Hymnes

 * Hymno della Natività di Christo
 * Hymno della Resurrectione di Christo
 * Hymno dell'archangelo Rafaelo
 * Hymno dei confessori
 * Hymno del corpo di Christo
 * Hymno di San Niccolo
 * Hymno della Epiphania
 * Hymno della Ascensione
 * Hymno della Virgine

Magnificat

 * Magnificat sexti toni

References and further reading

 * Gustave Reese, Music in the Renaissance. New York, W.W. Norton & Co., 1954.  ISBN 0-393-09530-4
 * Patrick Macey, Bonfire Songs: Savonarola's Musical Legacy.  Oxford, Clarendon Press.  1998.  ISBN 0-19-816669-9
 * The Concise Edition of Baker's Biographical Dictionary of Musicians, 8th ed. Revised by Nicolas Slonimsky.  New York, Schirmer Books, 1993.  ISBN 0-02-872416-X
 * H. Colin Slim/Stefano La Via: "Philippe Verdelot", Grove Music Online, ed. L. Macy (Accessed July 28, 2006), (subscription access)
 * Susan McClary, Modal Subjectivities: Self-Fashioning in the Italian Madrigal, p. 38–56.  Berkeley, University of California Press.  2004.  ISBN 0-520-23493-6

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Centerville, Montgomery County, Virginia

Centerville is an unincorporated community in Montgomery County in the southwest region of the U.S. commonwealth of Virginia.

The largest employer in the area is Virginia Tech, Virginia's largest university and a national football powerhouse, located in nearby Blacksburg. Montgomery County is considered the "most wired county in the United States" by Reader's Digest. The town maintains its small-town feel with an eclectic collection of boutiques, restaurants and historic sites, while just a mile away high-tech industry prospers in the Virginia Tech Corporate Research Center (CRC).

Geography
Centerville is located at 37.16972°N, -80.53833°W (37.1698488, -80.5383898).


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Clivia

Clivia is a genus of monocot flowering plants native to southern Africa. They are from the family Amaryllidaceae, subfamily Amaryllidoideae. Common names are Natal lily or bush lily.

They are herbaceous or evergreen perennial plants, with green, strap-like leaves. Individual flowers are more or less bell-shaped, occurring in umbels on a stalk above the foliage; colors typically range from yellow through orange to red. Many cultivars exist, some with variegated leaf patterns.

Description
Species of Clivia are found only in South Africa and Eswatini. They are typically forest undergrowth plants, adapted to low light (with the exception of C. mirabilis from the Western Cape).

Clivia shares common features with the other members of the subfamily Amaryllidoideae. Individual flowers have three sepals and three petals, all very similar (although the sepals are typically narrower than the petals) and collectively called tepals. In Clivia the tepals are fused at the base to form a tube, although this may be very short. The flower varies in shape from an open cup to a narrow hanging tube. In the species the flowers are mainly in shades of yellow through orange to red. The flowers are arranged in umbels (i.e. the flower-stalks or pedicels radiate from a single point); each umbel has a long stalk or peduncle. Several bracts subtend the umbels. Each flower has six stamens and an inferior ovary (i.e. one which is below the tepals) made up of three locules. The stamens have long filaments and anthers which are free to move on their filaments. The style is longer than the tepals, ending in a short three-part stigma.

Flowering time varies. Typically C. miniata, C. nobilis and C. caulescens flower in late winter and spring; in cultivation, C. miniata has out of season flowers at almost any time. C. gardenii and C. robusta flower in the autumn. Interspecific hybrids and cultivars can flower at almost any time of the year depending on climate and the flowering pattern of their parent species.

A distinctive feature of Clivia – shared with the closely related genus Cryptostephanus – is that unlike most species in the subfamily, it does not form bulbs. The long strap-shaped leaves are evergreen and spring from thick branching roots or rhizomes. Like other members of the tribe Haemantheae to which it belongs, Clivia fruits are berries. When ripe, they contain large fleshy seeds which are often more than 1 cm in diameter.

Taxonomy
Specimens were collected by the British explorers William Burchell and John Bowie in 1815 and 1820, respectively. Clivia nobilis became the first named species when in 1828 the Kew botanist John Lindley named it in honor of Charlotte Percy (née Clive), Duchess of Northumberland (1787–1866), who was for a time the governess of the future Queen Victoria.

Evolution and phylogeny
Six genera have been placed in the tribe Haemantheae; all are found in Africa. Molecular phylogenetic analysis carried out in 2004 showed that the tribe is monophyletic (i.e. it contains all the descendants of a single common ancestor). Four species of Clivia were included in the analysis:

The bulbless Clivia and Cryptostephanus appear to occupy a basal position within the clade. Meerow and Clayton suggest that a forest understorey habitat, associated with the absence of bulbs and the presence of fruits which are berries, may have been a factor in the evolutionary divergence of the Haemantheae clade from the rest of the subfamily Amaryllidoideae.

Species
, six species are recognized by the World Checklist of Selected Plant Families:
 * Clivia caulescens R.A.Dyer
 * Clivia gardenii Hook.
 * Clivia miniata (Lindl.) Bosse
 * Clivia mirabilis Rourke
 * Clivia nobilis Lindl.
 * Clivia robusta B.G.Murray et al.

C. mirabilis was only named in 2000, and C. robusta even later, in 2004. Thus older sources frequently state that there are only four or five species.

Natural hybrids

 * Clivia × nimbicola Swanev., Truter & A.E.van Wyk = C. caulescens × C. miniata

Cultivation
Of the species, Clivia miniata is the most widely cultivated; cultivars with flowers ranging from deep red-orange to pale yellow have been bred by growers. Yellow plants can belong to one of two different groups which breed true for colour, producing seedlings with unpigmented stems and all yellow flowers when mature. When yellows from different groups are crossed, seedlings with pigmented stems occur and the resulting flowers are orange.

C. miniata, C. gardenii, C. robusta and C. caulescens seedlings flower after four to five years. C. nobilis will flower after seven or eight years. It is reported that C. mirabilis also takes about six years to flower.

Care
In cultivation, it is recommended that plants are watered regularly in summer, although not overwatered, with a resting period from autumn till late winter, when the plants are kept almost dry at 46–50 °F (8–10 °C). Plants can be repotted yearly or every other year in all-purpose potting medium or coconut husks.

Propagation is by seed or by offsets removed when repotting. Seeds are sown on the top of moist material in high humidity.

Pests and diseases include scale insects, mealy bug, and rot.

Toxicity
Some species of Clivia, including Clivia miniata, produce small amounts of the alkaloid lycorine. Lycorine is toxic in sufficient quantities, particularly in pets and small children.

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Talk:Adobe InDesign

Pro-Wikipedia Bias in Screenshot
The screenshot used seems unprofessional. Perhaps a more neutral example would be more appropriate?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.68.97.67 (talk) 03:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

not natively compatible
"Because CS2 has code tightly integrated with the PPC architecture and hence not natively compatible with the Intel processors used in Macs starting from 2006, porting these products is a huge endeavor."

What? There have been Windows/X86 versions of InDesign since 1.5 or earlier.

Clearly, the original comment refers to the need to convert the Macintosh code.

redundancy
There seems to be redundancy between this and InDesign.

Merged. -Peter

Wikipedia is not a link farm
I know "Wikipedia is not a link farm," but I thought the recent pruning of external links went quite a bit too far. A lot of those seemed pretty useful. Do others agree? |examine the pruning - Thomas —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tphinney (talk • contribs).

 * Yes, I looked at the old list and I think a lot of what's there is both useful and appropriate.00:43, 17 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.3.169 (talk)

 * I was the one who pruned the links - many of these links can be found easily using a Google search and do not shed much light on InDesign and do not help users who actually want to find out more about InDesign - many of them are just commercial sites. Feel free to restore some links that are relevant, but before the pruning, there were almost twenty external sites. That's too much - and not needed. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk · Contact)  23:04, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Upset users.
Is there a citation for "This decision has upset many Intel Mac early-adoptors, especially since Adobe initially announced it would be first with a complete line of Universal Binary products?" I can't find anything about any announcement or verification of either of these claims after a g-search. =Sjledet 11:06, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Good call. –-  kungming·2 | (Talk ·Contact) 14:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

too brief
This article is way too brief, for such a big complicated important program.--69.87.201.217 00:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
 * As a user, I am willing to write something about the features of InDesign - perhaps along the line of the Photoshop article. What exactly, do you think should be added? –- kungming·  2  (Talk)
 * Well, I imagine this program has about 1000 features. And this article basically mentions none of them, tells us nothing about what the program does or how it does it.  Is this program truly a totally generic, indistinguishable DTP program?  It just seems like an appropriate, well-written article would be very long, thorough, and detailed.--69.87.193.53 22:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia articles are not user manuals, so there is no need to cover every each and single function of the software. However, a reasonably extensive summary of the features should be provided indeed.--Kellerpm (talk) 16:26, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If the Photoshop article is acceptable, why not use it as a model for an expanded InDesign article? Homeboy (talk) 23:35, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

file formats
Many readers will be coming to this article for advice about accessing InDesign data files. Can any versions of ID create any native internal-format data files that can be read by any other programs? If so, please give complete details, so that people without ID can have some clue about how to access such files.--69.87.193.53 22:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

InDesign can export PDF documents, but I'm not aware of any other software (Quark perhaps) that can read the native format... Average users will not find too many .indd files floating around because they tend to just be used in design and printing. Crocadillion 04:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I am updating the File format section. Please check if suitable. MyOptimism (talk) 07:38, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

New Screenshot
I just changed the screenshot to the lastest vesion (CS3 running in OSX), hope no one minds... NeoRicen 14:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't mind, but I wonder why people (and not just you) are so enthusiastic about updating screen shots in this way? The article is, or should not be, about "InDesign CS3, the version available today", but should be about the software and its history, all versions. What is to be gained with this rush to update the screen shot? Notinasnaid 14:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Well I just figured since the program has been updated the screenshot should too, I mean the icon was updated. Also people who don't have the program will see the article and the screenshot will be of the version that's available for them. Current owners of past versions don't need a screenshot because they have the program and a screenshot of an old version would be useless to someone looking to buy. NeoRicen 01:38, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That's a strong argument, though the idea that Wikipedia is a buyer's guide is somehow disturbing (if unavoidable). So long as the same argument is not used to remove information about older versions from the article. Notinasnaid 07:14, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Couldn't older screen shots exist in the article in the section that talks about versions (presuming there is such a section)? It could be argued that the images are as helpful as the text in this kind of situation. Also as a Mac user, I find it novel and interesting to see Adobe software on windows... Crocadillion 04:51, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

What is with the current screenshot? It looks absolutely shocking with the "Wikipedia Rocks!" scrawled across it. Also, it's a screenshot of the Windows version, not exactly representative of the average userbase of InDesign. 112.213.135.101 (talk) 12:26, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I've just updated the screenshot to CS5 on Mac OS X. No silly scrawling in this one! AussieNickuss (talk) 13:00, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Screenshot updated = Adobe InDesign CS5 running on Windows 7 x86 = with Wikipedia Design --Umar1996 (talk) 14:43, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

History of versions
Has anyone considered adding a table showing screenshots of the history of versions and significant changes, sort of like you get in some computer magazines? List_of_Ford_Taurus_models was the example I was using. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 (talk) 11:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm aware of the policy "What Wikipedia is not", but this is intended to be a summary, nothing else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.45.219.185 (talk) 11:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

InDesign CS6
My name is Ferry Roland, What About The Indesign Features? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rolandhelper (talk • contribs) 03:05, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Middle Eastern Versions
Why is the entire article about the Middle Eastern versions? --128.151.80.182 (talk) 17:25, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. Wikipedia is a work in progress. So, it is probably because no one has yet had time or resources to write anything else. Do you?

 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 23:56, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 06:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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InDesign CS5.5
InDesign CS5.5 was released between 5 and 6

This article is trash
The tone and content of this article is amateurish and tacky. Why lead with all this crap about companies rebuffing offers and codenames and inconsequential minutia? Wiki sucks 2603:6011:402:A26A:A8AD:8F70:C463:5CFB (talk) 14:52, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

PostScript driver app? Plug-in architecture never mentioned?
I worked on the InDesign Developer Technologies team at Adobe. This:

"However, the Postscript printer driver for InDesign 1.0 was an external app that tended to acquire frequent corruption problems, requiring periodic reinstallation. Copies of InDesign 1.5 were usually given away when it was found that a host of bugs had to be corrected. By InDesign 2.0, the temperamental printer driver was embedded in the main software. The 'kernel' architecture was never mentioned again."

...is completely wrong, as far as I know. The PostScript printer driver was never a separate application, and InDesign's plug-in architecture has been mentioned frequently (by me, in my books, if nothing else) since then. I do not know of any large-scale giveaway of InDesign 1.5.

The implementation of InDesign's transparency features and font subsetting did cause problems--both because of bugs and also due to the large number of obsolescent PostScript interpreters in use in printers at the time. Adobe completely misunderstood the market adoption of printers/workflows capable of supporting the current PDF features of the time.

The InDesign team designed InDesign's architecture--a plug-in manager and hundreds of plug-ins--to be easily updated, customized, and enhanced at any time. This scheme fell afoul of Adobe's accounting practices relative to SEC regulations (this has to do with what does and does not constitute a "major release" of a software product). The modular architecture remains superior to the monolithic architecture of most large software products, in my opinion.

--Olav Martin Kvern 2601:602:8180:ABD0:A536:D368:EEC5:26B3 (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

spinning off and relocating information
There is too much information on the top of this article, so it is difficult for readers to get the essential knowledge. And also, a lot of versions of this software are posted on the article, which may include too much details and make it seems like a development log. Maybe we should removing these excessive details and relocating some paragraphs on the top of the article as well to make it looks more concise.

Add a section of “Adobe InDesign release history” to move the relationship between the “Adobe PageMaker” and “Adobe InDesign”, also more details about how Adobe declined Quark’s offer to buy their company. As to its new competitor “Shuksan”, maybe it is not that relevant to our topic.

The third paragraph of the article is talking about its document format. From my perspective, maybe there is too much information to introduce every version of “Adobe InDesign”, always adding some new technology to make their software better. Therefore, I reckon to delete some of these details or organize them into a graph to make it clear and concise, then add them into a new section “each version’s new function”, if you do believe they are essential information for this software.

What’s more, about the last paragraph of this article, introduce how “Adobe InDesign” is bundling with other software of Adobe in Mac OS X. For me, this part introduces some details that is somehow negative statement about this software. And again, it contains too much information about versions released in different years of this software. Maybe they can be put into “see also” section, just the same as “Criticism of Creative Cloud”.

The section of “Internationalization and localization” only has the InDesign Middle Eastern editions and there is too much useless information about this version in this article. So it will be better if this section could be spun off to another stub. 303-zhan (talk) 10:14, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

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Exudate

An exudate is a fluid released by an organism through pores or a wound, a process known as exuding or exudation. Exudate is derived from exude 'to ooze' from Latin exsūdāre 'to (ooze out) sweat' (ex- 'out' and sūdāre 'to sweat').

Medicine
An exudate is any fluid that filters from the circulatory system into lesions or areas of inflammation. It can be a pus-like or clear fluid. When an injury occurs, leaving skin exposed, it leaks out of the blood vessels and into nearby tissues. The fluid is composed of serum, fibrin, and leukocytes. Exudate may ooze from cuts or from areas of infection or inflammation.

Types

 * Purulent or suppurative exudate consists of plasma with both active and dead neutrophils, fibrinogen, and necrotic parenchymal cells. This kind of exudate is consistent with more severe infections, and is commonly referred to as pus.
 * Fibrinous exudate is composed mainly of fibrinogen and fibrin. It is characteristic of rheumatic carditis, but is seen in all severe injuries such as strep throat and bacterial pneumonia. Fibrinous inflammation is often difficult to resolve due to blood vessels growing into the exudate and filling space that was occupied by fibrin. Often, large amounts of antibiotics are necessary for resolution.
 * Catarrhal exudate is seen in the nose and throat and is characterized by a high content of mucus.
 * Serous exudate (sometimes classified as serous transudate) is usually seen in mild inflammation, with relatively low protein. Its consistency resembles that of serum, and can usually be seen in certain disease states like tuberculosis. (See below for difference between transudate and exudate)
 * Malignant (or cancerous) pleural effusion is effusion where cancer cells are present. It is usually classified as exudate.

Types of exudates: serous, serosanguineous, sanguineous, hemorrhaging and purulent drainage.
 * Serous: Clear straw colored liquid that drains from the wound. This is a normal part of the healing process.
 * Serosanguineous: Small amount of blood is present in the drainage; it is pink in color due to the presence of red blood cells mixed with serous drainage. This is a normal part of the healing process.
 * Sanguineous: This type of drainage contains red blood due to trauma of blood vessels, this may occur while cleaning the wound. Sanguineous drainage is abnormal.
 * Hemorrhaging: This type of drainage contains frank blood from a leaking blood vessel. This will require emergency treatment to control the bleed. This type of drainage is abnormal.
 * Purulent drainage: This type of drainage is malodorous and can be yellow, gray, or greenish in color. This is an indication of an infection.

Exudates vs. transudates
There is an important distinction between transudates and exudates. Transudates are caused by disturbances of hydrostatic or colloid osmotic pressure, not by inflammation. They have a low protein content in comparison to exudates. Medical distinction between transudates and exudates is through the measurement of the specific gravity of extracted fluid. Specific gravity is used to measure the protein content of the fluid. The higher the specific gravity, the greater the likelihood of capillary permeability changes in relation to body cavities. For example, the specific gravity of the transudate is usually less than 1.012 and a protein content of less than 2 g/100 mL (2 g%). Rivalta test may be used to differentiate an exudate from a transudate. It is not clear if there is a distinction in the difference of transudates and exudates in plants.

Plant exudates
Plant exudates include saps, gums, latex, and resin. Sometimes nectar is considered an exudate. Plant seeds exudate a variety of molecules into the spermosphere, and roots exudate into the rhizosphere; these exudates include acids, sugars, polysaccharides and ectoenzymes, and collectively account for 40% of root carbon. Exudation of these compounds has various benefits to the plant and to the microorganisms of the rhizosphere.

title: Exudate