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Waiuku

Waiuku is a rural town in the Auckland Region of New Zealand. It is located at the southern end of the Waiuku River, which is an estuarial arm of the Manukau Harbour, and lies on the isthmus of the Āwhitu Peninsula, which extends to the northeast. It is 40 kilometres southwest of Auckland city centre, and 12 kilometres north of the mouth of the Waikato River.

Settled in the 13th or 14th centuries, the Waiuku area was an important transportation hub, as the Te Pai o Kaiwaka portage was the preferred route for people travelling between the Waikato River and Manukau Harbour. The area became a centre for Ngāti Kahukōkā, a Waiohua hapū, by the 15th century. Ngāti Te Ata developed as a union between Waiohua and Waikato Tainui peoples, around the 17th century at Waiuku.

Waiuku became a trading port in 1851, facilitating trade between the Waikato River and the port of Onehunga, and Purapura, a Ngāti Te Ata village was established at the navigable head of the Awaroa Creek to the south. After the Invasion of the Waikato in 1863, the port of Waiuku suffered due to the lack of Māori produce being transported. By the end of the 19th century, Waiuku had begun developing into a centre for the dairy industry. In 1922, a railway line branch was constructed to Waiuku, and by 1955 Waiuku had grown enough to become an independent borough. In 1968, the Glenbrook steel mill opened in neighbouring Glenbrook, becoming a major employer in Waiuku.

Etymology
The name Waiuku is a Māori name meaning "Waters of Uku"; uku being a type of clay used as a soap. The name recalls the story of a Ngāti Kahukōkā woman of high rank who was choosing between two suitors, Tamakau and Tamakae. Tamakae, having been working in the kūmara gardens, was taken to the river by the elders of the area to be washed using uku from the shores of the Waiuku River, before meeting his potential new wife. The location where Tamakae was washed was the western banks of the Waiuku River, directly behind where the Waiuku Museum stands today.

Geography
Waiuku is located at the southern end of the Waiuku River, an estuarial arm of the Manukau Harbour. It is close to the town of Pukekohe to the east, and is directly north of the Waikato River mouth. Prior to European settlement, the Waiuku area was primarily a dense kahikatea-dominated forest, with swamps areas near waterways. Since then, the majority of swamps have been drained.

Māori history

The Manukau Harbour has been settled by Tāmaki Māori since around the 13th or 14th centuries. Tāmaki Māori of the southern Manukau Harbour traditionally used the food resources of the harbour, collecting shellfish such as cockles, sea urchins and kōura, and fished species including snapper, kahawai and parore.

The Waiuku area was an important due to Te Pai o Kaiwaka, a portage which was the main route for transport between the Waikato River and the Manukau Harbour. The route followed the Awaroa Stream to the northernmost navigable point, after which waka were hauled overland to the Waiuku River. The portage was the preferred route, due to the unpredictable seas of the west coast. The existence of the portage meant that the Waiuku area has historically been difficult to settle during times of war.

The Waiohua hapū Ngāti Kahukōkā began occupying the southern Manukau Harbour and Waikato River mouth around the 15th century. Ngāti Kahukōkā's main centres were Puketapu on the Āwhitu Peninsula, Tītī, near modern-day Mauku.

In the 17th century, Ngāti Kahukōkā were led by Te Ata-i-Rehia, granddaughter of Huakaiwaka, the eponymous ancestor of the Waiohua, a major confederation of iwi of the Tāmaki isthmus and South Auckland areas. Te Ata-i-Rehia was gifted land after Ngāti Kahukōkā were helped in conflicts by Waiohua. The iwi were also known by the name Te Ruakaiwhare, referencing the taniwha guardian of the Manukau Harbour, Kaiwhare, who looked over the tribe.Then took name from Te Ata I Rehia. Continuing to face invasions from neighbouring tribes, Te Ata-i-Rehia married the Ngāti Mahuta chief Tapaue. A new tribal identity grew from the union between Waiohua and Waikato Tainui. Upon her death, the iwi took the name Ngāti Te Ata, making Te Ata-i-Rehia the eponymous ancestor of the iwi. After the death of Tapaue, the couples' son Pāpaka secured Waiuku for Ngāti Te Ata. By 1700, Te Awaroa / Te Pae o Kaiwaka Pā had been established as a defensive fortification on the eastern banks of the Awaroa Creek, surrounded by a forested swamp. Ngāti Tamaoho, an iwi closely related to Ngāti Te Ata, began to have a presence on the Āwhitu Peninsula and southern Manukau Harbour by the 18th century.

Musket Wars
By the early 19th century, the southwestern Manukau Harbour and Waikato River mouth was a densely settled area, where interrelated hapū, Ngāti Te Ata, Ngāti Tamaoho, Ngāti Tiipa and Ngāti Pou, had established kāinga. In March 1822, a Ngāpuhi taua (war party) led by Hongi Hika attacked the Āwhitu Peninsula settlements. While Ngāti Te Ata successfully repelled the attackers at Waiuku, most members of Ngāti Te Ata fled the area for safety, with only a small number remaining for ahi kā (visible occupation land rights). In 1823 during the war, Hongi Hika hauled his waka over the portage at Waiuku, to reach the Waikato River. The area remained depopulated until the mid-1830s. As a result of the Musket Wars, the Waiohua and Waikato hapū of the southern Manukau developed closer ties.

Early colonial era

The first Europeans to live in the area arrived in September 1836, when Robert Maunsell chose Moeatoa as the location of the first Manukau Harbour Christian Missionary Society station. The Maunsells moved to Port Waikato in the following year, where they established the Te Kohanga Mission. By the late 1830s, Ngāti Tamaoho chief Ēpiha Pūtini began envisioning the Waiuku area as a planned European settlement, which would facilitate trade between the Manukau Harbour and the Waikato River. Ngāti Te Ata used the Waiuku portage to transport goods to the Manukau Harbour, until the Government funded the construction of a bullock track between the Waiuku and Awaroa rivers in the late 1840s.

The New Zealand Government sold Waiuku allotments to settlers in 1851. This included early settler Edward Constable, who established the Kentish Hotel in 1851 or early 1852. The hotel quickly became the focal point for the new settlement of Waiuku, which flourished as a trading port by the mid-1850s. Ngāti Te Ata and European settlers mingled together in the settlement, and Ahipene Kaihau, rangatira of Ngāti Te Ata, was a close confidant of Governor George Grey, who regularly invited to stay at Waiuku. Grey commissioned a ship to service the route between Onehunga and Waiuku.

By 1856, the Māori village of Purapura was established to the south of Waiuku, at the northernmost point on the Awaroa Creek navigable by waka. In 1856, five European families settled to the east at Mauku, and a church called St. Bride's was established for the village. Mauku was the first European settlement visited by the first Māori King, Pōtatau Te Wherowhero, after his coronation in 1858.

One of the founders of St Andrew's Presbyterian Church in Waiuku in the 19th century was Captain Sir John Makgill. Makgill arrived with his family in Waiuku in 1882 and established a farm called 'Brackmont' at Taurangaruru. He eventually increased his holdings there to about 2500 acres, and also bought land at Orua Bay. Sir John Makgill died at Brackmont on 14 November 1906. His wife was Margaret Isabella Haldane, sister of Lord Haldane, and their eldest son was George Makgill who spent most of his adult life in Scotland, becoming 11th Baronet of Makgill on his father's death. One other son John E Makgill continued to farm at Taurangaruru, while another Robert Haldane Makgill was a key figure in the development of New Zealand's public health system. He was one of the country's first district health officers, at a time when central government took on greater responsibility for public health. He was to play an important role during the 1918 influenza pandemic and its aftermath, notably as 'the chief architect' of 'the most useful legacy of the 1918 influenza pandemic': the 1920 Health Act.

Invasion of the Waikato
In 1861, Governor George Grey ordered the construction of the Great South Road further into the Waikato, due to fears of potential invasion of Waikato Tainui. On 9 July 1863, due to fears of the Māori King Movement, Governor Grey proclaimed that all Māori living in the South Auckland area needed to swear loyalty to the Queen and give up their weapons. Most people refused due to strong links to Tainui, leaving for the south before the Government's Invasion of the Waikato. Small numbers of people remained, in order to tend to their farms and for ahi kā. Most Māori who lived south of Auckland felt they had no choice due to their strong ties to Tainui and Pōtatau Te Wherowhero, and were forced to flee to the south.

Immediately prior to the war, the government constructed the Mauku Stockade near Waiuku. On 23 September 1863, a skirmish began at the Māori village of Tītī near Mauku, and nine European soldiers were killed. September saw a number of skirmishes between Ngāti Tamaoho and related hapū and the Mauku Company of Forest Rifles, led by Daniel H. Lusk.

While considered a "friendly" iwi by Grey during the war due to Grey's relationship with Ahipene Kaihau, after the war a combined 43,850 acres of Ngāti Te Ata land was confiscated by the Crown in December 1864, with further confiscations in early 1865. Most members of the iwi left for the Waikato in the aftermath of the war. After a period, some members of Ngāti Te Ata when some of the confiscated lands were returned, many living at Moeatoa Marae, opposite the modern Glenbrook Steel Mill, where the Christian Missionary Society mission had been located.

Waiuku township suffered as a trading post after the invasion, as Māori produce from the Waikato and Manukau were no longer sent through Waiuku. A canal scheme was proposed, that would link the Waikato River to the Manukau Harbour, but plans for the canal never progressed.

Growth of Waiuku township

In 1868, Edward Constable constructed flax mills at Purapura and Waipapa, which led to Waiuku becoming a centre for the flax trade in the 1870s. Between 1870 and 1900, Waiuku, Karaka and the Āwhitu Peninsula became major centres for the kauri gum industry.

Waiuku developed as a town when refrigeration made dairy farming financially viable in the late 19th century. Dairy pastures were developed to the south at Otaua and Aka Aka in the late 1880s. Development of the area was slow, in part due to the shallow port on the Waiuku River hindering ships at low tide. In 1901, oyster reserves were established along the Waiuku River, and by 1915, a butter factory had been established at Waiuku.

The first great Waiuku fire occurred on 28 August 1916, which destroyed many of the shops and offices to the east of Queen Street. The fire leads the Waiuku Town Board to proclaim that areas of central Waiuku could only have new buildings constructed from brick or masonry.

During the 1920s, 96 Ngāti Te Ata families were evicted from Moeatoa Marae. The land had gone into public administration after the death of the titled landholder of the marae land (the Māori Land Court having individuated Ngāti Te Ata land titles in the late 19th century).

On 5 January 1922, the Waiuku branch railway line was opened between Paerata and Waiuku. This led to the port of Waiuku no longer being used; with passenger services to Onehunga ceasing in 1925, and shipping ceasing a few years after. Within a few years, the railway was no longer financially viable, as local residents preferred to use roads. Passenger rail services to Waiuku were replaced by buses in 1948, and goods trains cease using the Waiuku branch line in 1967. A spur to the steel mill (detailed below) was opened in 1968, saving the line from being closed entirely.

In 1939, Ngāti Te Ata land southwest of Waiuku was requisitioned by the Department of Public Works, in order to protect land against coastal erosion, and to establish the Waiuku State Forest. Further land was requisitioned in 1959 to expand the forest.

By 1955, the town had grown enough that the Borough of Waiuku was created, independent from Franklin County.

In 1966, the New Zealand Government announced a scheme to establish a steel mill near Waiuku. The Glenbrook Steel Mill began operating in 1968, and from 1969 began harvesting ironsand from requisitioned Ngāti Te Ata lands along the Waikato River.

Over time, Waiuku has developed into a service centre for the surrounding rural area, and residence for many New Zealand Steel employees.

Demographics
Waiuku covers 7.87 km2 and had an estimated population of as of  with a population density of  people per km2.

Before the 2023 census, the town had a smaller boundary, covering 7.71 km2. Using that boundary, Waiuku had a population of 9,168 at the 2018 New Zealand census, an increase of 846 people (10.2%) since the 2013 census, and an increase of 1,710 people (22.9%) since the 2006 census. There were 3,261 households, comprising 4,557 males and 4,611 females, giving a sex ratio of 0.99 males per female, with 1,974 people (21.5%) aged under 15 years, 1,647 (18.0%) aged 15 to 29, 4,080 (44.5%) aged 30 to 64, and 1,467 (16.0%) aged 65 or older.

Ethnicities were 83.0% European/Pākehā, 19.9% Māori, 4.5% Pacific peoples, 6.4% Asian, and 1.8% other ethnicities. People may identify with more than one ethnicity.

The percentage of people born overseas was 21.4, compared with 27.1% nationally.

Although some people chose not to answer the census's question about religious affiliation, 56.2% had no religion, 31.0% were Christian, 1.0% had Māori religious beliefs, 1.5% were Hindu, 0.5% were Muslim, 0.3% were Buddhist and 2.2% had other religions.

Of those at least 15 years old, 1,008 (14.0%) people had a bachelor's or higher degree, and 1,506 (20.9%) people had no formal qualifications. 1,383 people (19.2%) earned over $70,000 compared to 17.2% nationally. The employment status of those at least 15 was that 3,579 (49.7%) people were employed full-time, 939 (13.1%) were part-time, and 297 (4.1%) were unemployed.

Marae
Waiuku has two marae affiliated with the Waikato Tainui hapū of Te Ākitai, Ngāti Paretaua and Ngāti Te Ata: Reretēwhioi Marae and its Arohanui meeting house, and Tāhuna Marae and its Teuwira meeting house.

Local government
The first local government in the area were the Waipipi and Waiuku Highway Districts, which were formed in 1867 to administer road upkeep and public works projects. The highway districts split Waiuku township in two. Waiuku became a part of the Franklin County in 1914, and within a few months the Waiuku Town District was established on 29 July 1914, as an entity within the county. In 1939, the Waiuku Town Board offices were constructed on Queen Street opposite the Kentish Hotel, which were in use by 1940. By 1955, Waiuku had grown enough to become a borough, independent from the Franklin County. The Waiuku Borough had two majors during its existence: R. S. Whiteside who served from 1955 to 1971, and S. K. Lawrence, who served from 1971 to 1989.

In 1989, the Borough of Waiuku was merged with the newly formed Franklin District. In November 2010, all cities and districts of the Auckland Region were amalgamated into a single body, governed by the Auckland Council.

Waiuku is a part of the Franklin local board area. The residents of Waiuku elect a local board, and one councillor from the Franklin ward to sit on the Auckland Council.

Attractions

The local pub, called The Kentish Hotel, is New Zealand's longest continuously licensed hotel. It was built by one of the first European settlers in Waiuku, Edward Constable, as an inn in 1851. His presence can still be felt in the name of the pub (he was from Kent), and the street behind it - Constable Road. The Kentish, with its ornate verandahs, provides a historical centre point to the town and the nearby Tamakae Reserve.

At the entrance to the Reserve stands a statue of Tamakae carved from swamp kauri logs. The logs were found during some excavation work at New Zealand Steel and gifted to the local iwi (tribe), Ngati Te Ata. The Reserve also has a small historic "village" with several restored buildings including Hartmann House, dating back to 1886, now operating as a local craft studio, Pollock Cottage (1890), Waiuku Jail (1865) and The Creamery (1890s). The nearby Waiuku Museum has colonial era memorabilia, Māori artifacts, old sailing boats and historic photographs. A heritage trail around town points out further sites of historic interest in Waiuku including Wesley Methodist Church (1883), from where visitors to the town can get a panoramic view across Waiuku and the waterfront reserve.

Waiuku Museum, a museum on local history, opened in 1965.

Glenbrook Vintage Railway is a heritage railway opened in 1977. It operates the section of the Waiuku branch line from Glenbrook to Waiuku that was closed in 1967 and was in the process of being lifted.

The West Coast black sand beach, Karioitahi, is located nearby.

Waiuku has a pistol club with a ranges, and one of New Zealand's largest airsoft clubs.

Education
Waiuku College is a secondary school (years 9–13) with a roll of.

Waiuku Primary School, View Road School and Sandspit Road School are full primary schools (years 1–8) with rolls of ,   and   students, respectively.

All these schools are coeducational. Rolls are as of

Notable people
Notable people from Waiuku include:
 * David Aspin, Olympic wrestler
 * Zinzan Brooke, rugby player
 * Stephen Donald, rugby player
 * Ross Ihaka, statistics professor
 * Elsie Locke, peace activist, historian and writer. Locke spent much of her childhood in Waiuku, and set her childrens book The End of the Harbour: An Historical Novel for Children (1968) in 1860s Waiuku.
 * George Makgill, Scottish baronet and novelist. Makgill's father owned a station at Waiuku in the 1870s.
 * John Campbell Paterson, Bishop of Auckland from 1994 to 2010
 * Kevin Skinner, rugby player
 * Pat Walsh, rugby player

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The "Cal Bonfire Rally" section should be removed or Stanford Big Game traditions should be included as well. This could form a "Traditions" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.100.85 (talk) 05:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Why was the page moved? --Jiang 23:38, 5 May 2004 (UTC)

Why don't we merge this article with the Stanford Axe Article? Other college football rivalry games usually don't have two articles dedicated to it, one fore the game and one for the trophy. Dspserpico 23:21, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not for that idea. The "Big Game" and even "the Play" are things that stand as important traditions in all of college football (I would also include "The Game" between Harvard-Yale and "Army-Navy") --and, as purely a sports fan, I hate both those schools (go Trojans!) Bobak 17:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Just a question, the article states ''The legitimacy of The Play has remained controversial. To this day, the final score in the official record shows Cal winning by a score of 25-20, whereas in many Stanford publications it is recorded as Stanford 20, Cal 19.'' Is this legitimacy of The Play controversial throughout those loving (College Football), or is this a Stanford POV? If so, it should be marked as such. RoguePat 08:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

To answer your question, it is purely a Stanfurd point of view. No one else contests The Play. In fact, Stanfurd has even stopped the silly tradition of changing the score when they hold the Axe. I think they realize that the 1992 game (which they won on a VERY questionable penalty) is much more controversial, and so have dropped the subject (for YEARS, whenever the ref, Pat Flood, from the 1992 game was officiating, Joe Starkey would say something like "The ref is....Pattttt...Flooooood") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.165.26 (talk) 09:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

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Game name
At least at Stanford, the annual Stanford/Cal game is referred to as "Big Game" (i.e., without the grammatical article "the"). The title of the (Wikipedia) article is "Big Game" but there are many references to "the Big Game". What is the name of the game per Berkeley folks? I noticed that the media can't seem to choose whether or not they like the article "the". Imagineertobe (talk) 22:37, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've always said "the", but I couldn't tell you what the majority of Berkeley folk say. For a quick search it does looks like the media uses both (including the Daily Cal). I personally support using "the" in our article, it just sounds better to me. --Falcorian (talk) 12:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I've seen "the" used as well as which edition of the Big Game it is (e.g. the 2010 one was the 113th; cf. Cal's official game notes and Stanford's game notes, which go both ways). I see the point about the official name not being The Big Game, but at the same time to me it's hard to get away from using "the Big Game" the entire time in the article. Broken Sphere Msg me 22:20, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I have always called Big Game 'Big Game' and not 'the Big Game'. The only people who I have heard use a 'the' were neither students nor alumni of Stanford or Cal. --SelfStudyBuddyTALK-- 22:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
 * SelfStudyBuddy, I agree with you that the members of both schools do not generally use the article. I read BrokenSphere's links to the game notes, I tried to discern some kind of pattern--it seems to be that if you are referring to more than one Big Game, or Big Game as a group: "...in the history of THE Big Game [the collective group of Big Games]" and "...scored at least 40 points in THE Big Game [again, the collective group]", you use the article. (I'm giving the Athletic Departments a lot of credit for having a really good style guide here.) In the Wikipedia article phrases like "the Big Games of 1906 to 1914" seem to really need the article, but others, like "on the eve of the Big Game" do not. I remember we would always say "Are you going to Big Game?" meaning a specific event, but you might say "Do you remember the Big Game when..." It is tricky.

 * Obviously this is all WP:OR. Given that, and given the media's use of the article, at minimum, we have to acknowledge both terms. We really need a link to some reliable source that describes the article-less version. It might be a good idea to use both terms in the lede: "The Big Game (or more typically, 'Big Game'..." Just some thoughts. --Esprqii (talk) 23:31, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Essentially, "Big Game:Stanfurd, The Big Game:Cal" == "5:San Franciso, THE 5:LA". In fact, I am really surprised that no Cal alums or students have changed the name. Thank you for bringing this up, I will notify the Berkeley RallyCom to update this article to include the "The" as a counter-point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.165.26 (talk) 09:03, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Results table
I created the version of the Results table in this version based more or less on the table in Civil War (college football game) because I thought it was easy to read the actual scores and data in black and white with just a splash of color. The current version with the very bright table cells make it easy to spot winners all right, but to me anyway, it makes reading the scores and seeing the footnotes very difficult indeed. I am not colorblind but I wonder if this decreases readability for those people. I'm open to figuring out a way to make spotting the winners easier if that's needed--a colored strip across the top of the cell instead of a box?--but this just seems like too much. There is no real standard for these kinds of tables, and maybe we should take it up on the WP:CFB talk page and develop one. Any thoughts? --Esprqii (talk) 17:13, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I made the most recent edit to color the table cells. After ESprqii raised concerns about this on my talk page, I went to Category:United States athletic conference navigational boxes and went through the articles of the four conferences (coincidentally, four of the six BCS conferences) with rivalry game templates, I have found most rivalry game articles use shaded boxes.  Indeed, most use the format Big Game had (which I will call "HSB" here - for horizonal shaded box) until Esprqii replaced it last month with the version mentioned above (which I will call "CWV" here - for Civil War version).  I actually prefer HSB but didn't want to overwrite all of Esprqii's work in creating CWV on the page for Big Game, so I went with the option of shading the boxes of CWV on Big Game.
 * The Pac-10 is the most haphazard conference when it comes to these tables, Civil War uses CWV, Apple Cup (and now Big Game) uses a shaded box version of CWV, Territorial Cup uses its own unique format, UCLA–USC uses its own unique format, and Colorado-Utah (technically, Pac-12) does not have a table. Indeed, the Civil War page used HSB until this August 2009 edit and the Apple Cup page used a variant of HSB this August 2009 edit; both August 2009 edits were by User:YBG.  All 15 rivalry game articles of the SEC, all 14 rivalry game articles of the Big Ten, and 9 of the 13 rivalry game articles of the Big 12 use the HSB format (of the remaining 4 articles from the Big 12, there are 3 with no table whatsoever and 1 that uses an odd format that no other school has).  So by my survey, 38 of 48 articles (79%) use HSB, 4 of 48 articles (8%) use no table, 3 of 48 articles (6%) use CWV, and 3 of 48 articles (6%) use a unique format.

 * OCNative (talk) 05:58, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

 * Great analysis, thanks. Aside from the color, with all the separate columns, I think it's really hard to spot the score of any given game in the HSB. The old Big Game format wasn't too bad (other than the overly wide Notes column), but if you look at something like Deep South's Oldest Rivalry, it's really hard to spot the score of any given game. It's just a table without any cohesiveness, some of which have wasted columns, like the whole "location" column in many of the Big 10 games seems like a waste as 99% of the time it alternates. There is also not usually a commitment to how the score should be displayed: in one column? Two?

 * It seemed to me that the other rivalry boxes just evolved organically as long plain tables that eventually had color added to them but hadn't really been thought through. It appeared to me that User:YBG had put some thought into the CWV format. I liked its compactness and the fact that it combines each game result into a single cell, and notes are shorter.

 * Anyway, I'm fine with the color, though I do think a slightly muted version would be easier on the eyes (but I know, not traditional--we don't want to be accused of pastel patriotism!). To address the non-standard issue, what do you think about switching the other Pac-12 rivalry boxes to this NBGV (New Big Game version)? I think the CU-UU rivalry, CW, and Territorial Cup could be handled boldly (the TC table is really just a mess). Should probably discuss on the UCLA–USC rivalry page.

Assuming that the Template:CFB Yearly Record Entry rivalry game prompt is not a new standard, then I think it makes sense to adapting the Big Game format to the other rivalry games, particularly the three you pointed out since Colorado-Utah doesn't have a table currently, Civil War is just a slight variant of this one here, and Territorial Cup is one of the simplest/least informative tables of any rivalry game. It looks like Apple Cup already uses this one. I agree that any attempt to change the UCLA-USC page would definitely need discussion considering how well-developed that page and table already are. OCNative (talk) 07:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Any other opinions out there? --Esprqii (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, since my two main editing are politics and the Pac-10 (or should it be Pac-12?), might I suggest borrowing the color scheme from the political pages? Conveniently, the Republicans and Democrats each have a color in common with the Cardinal and the Golden Bears, respectively.  See the list of legislators from California State Legislature, 2011–2012 session, for example. (Also, sorry about the delay in responding, as I have been on a wikivacation during the holidays.) OCNative (talk) 11:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Making it the same as the Rep/Dem might be confusing. I'm used to it now, so let's just leave it. Whaddya think about adapting to the other Pac-12 rivalry games? --Esprqii (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It seems Template:CFB Yearly Record Entry has a rivalry game prompt. I don't know if this is intended to be a new standard, or is just an option available for that template.

Santa Clara template
I just noticed that the "Santa Clara Broncos" navbox is included in this article. (It used to be the Broncos football navbox, but that just got changed because the game was rugby.) I think that's inappropriate; this article is about Big Game which has always been the Cal-Stanford game. Based on the article Santa Clara Broncos, they seem to be claiming the 1916 rugby game between Stanford and Santa Clara as a version of Big Game, because Cal and Stanford did not play each other in the years 1915-1918. I think that's a real stretch, and it doesn't seem to be included in official records of Big Game. IMO the Santa Clara Broncos navbox should be deleted from the article, but I'd like to see other people's opinions. --MelanieN (talk) 14:47, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree it should not be included. Technically, those games were called the "Big Game" but I don't think any Big Game scholars (heh) consider it the same thing. --Esprqii (talk) 21:59, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for removing it. I was waiting to see if the person who modified it would chime in here, but I guess either they are AFC or they don't have an opinion. --MelanieN (talk) 17:20, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Just about to mention that I did it...if someone still objects we can always put it back. --Esprqii (talk) 17:34, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I really don’t have a dog in this fight, but it looks like from 1915-1917 Stanford billed their “Big Game” (’cause you can’t not have a Big Game, right????) the matchup between them and Santa Clara on the pitch. Whether or not that merits the inclusion of a navbox is debatable, but it’s notable and, really, it takes up so little room you didn’t notice it; I think it’s trivial and hurts nothing to have it. —Wiki Wikardo 04:55, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * This article is really about the rivalry between Stanford and Cal that happens to be called "The Big Game"--I don't think the Santa Clara games are the same thing even though they had the same name. The scores are not listed for those games and I think it's better to limit this article to the two teams that have the long tradition that has continued (you'd also have to include the Cal-Washington "Big Game" scores from that time.) Seems like a separate article about the Santa Clara-Stanford rivalry should include the 1915-17 games. --Esprqii (talk) 06:01, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for joining the conversation, Wiki - and for inadvertently calling this box to our attention! I agree with Esprqii. The scope of this article is defined in the first sentence: "The Big Game is an American college football rivalry game played by the California Golden Bears football team of the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford Cardinal football team of Stanford University." It does not even mention the Santa Clara game(s) anywhere, because this article is about the Cal-Stanford rivalry. A sentence could be added, noting that the Stanford-Santa Clara rugby games and Stanford-Washington football games for those years were referred to as Big Game, but I think the navbox is inappropriate. --MelanieN (talk) 15:20, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to note that the Santa Clara-Stanford and Cal-Washington "Big Games" are already noted in this article (third paragraph under Series History). --Esprqii (talk) 17:24, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks! I stand corrected. In that case I am happy with the article as is. --MelanieN (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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Correcting a discrepancy in the series record
The article clearly shows only 110 meetings between Cal and Stanford in the Game results table. Someone must have confused this rivalry's record with of the Oregon–Oregon State rivalry, which is 63–46–10 in favor of Oregon. Furthermore, when you get to the Stanford game in the article regarding the 2016 California Golden Bears football team, it shows Cal's all-time record against Stanford is 43–56–10, not 46–62–11. How someone ended up confusing the record of the Civil War with that of the Big Game is beyond me. 205.153.48.25 (talk) 19:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Thanks for coming to the talk page. However, the reliable sources all say that there have been 119 Big Games.

 * Cal says 2016 was the 119th Big Game.
 * Stanford says 2016 was the 119th Big Game
 * The newspapers say 2016 was the 119th Big Game.
 * So let's work this out on the talk page, BEFORE you make these drastic changes to the article. This is the third time you have made the change. That amounts to Edit warring and can get you blocked if you continue it. --MelanieN (talk) 19:17, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Additional research: the Stanford football site says its record against Cal (not counting this year's game) as 61-46-11. That adds to 118 as of last year. We do need to figure out all these discrepancies. Meanwhile, I think the article should be restored to the way it was but I will wait for someone else to chime in here so we can get a consensus. I don't want to become guilty of edit warring myself. --MelanieN (talk) 19:30, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

OK, I think I've figured this out The chart in this article listing all the games clearly shows only 110 games, with Stanford leading 56-42-10. However, both schools and other reliable sources claim there have been 119 games. The longstanding (up until a week ago) records at the top of this article were: 119 meetings, with Stanford leading 62-46-11 (that adds up to 119). The listing by location of the game also added up to 119.

So what happened to the other 9 games? I think I have the answer. From 1906 to 1914, the Big Game was rugby instead of football. The teams did not play each other at all from 1915 through 1918. The game returned as football in 1919. So: the rivalry (i.e., the Big Game) has consisted of 119 games, of which 9 were rugby games.

So the way to solve this is to restore the original records: 119 games with a record of 62–46–11, and add a note to the chart explaining that it shows only football games. Are you agreeable with that, 205.153.48.25? --MelanieN (talk) 19:46, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I propose the following wording for the top of the chart: NOTE: This chart lists only football games. From 1906 through 1914, the Big Game was rugby rather than football. No Big Game was played in the years 1915-18 and 1943-45. --MelanieN (talk) 19:53, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

I can't find a reason to NOT like it. Also, I would slightly change the note to read ''Note: This chart lists only football games. From 1906–14, the Big Game was rugby instead of football. No Big Game was played from 1915–18 and 1943–45, due to World War I and World War II, respectively.'' 205.153.48.25 (talk) 20:12, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * I'll add it as corrected. Also, I removed an incorrect item from the lede which claimed this is the seventh most played college football rivalry in the U.S. That was based on the number 119, but the linked list is specifically for FOOTBALL rivalries, so 119 is not the right number - since there have not been 119 football games. Thanks for calling attention to this problem, I think we have it fixed now. Want to check it and see if I missed anything? --MelanieN (talk) 21:13, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
 * P.S. The close correlation between the statistics for the Big Game and the Civil War was interesting - and confusing. And it turns out that the Big Game is the oldest rivalry in the west, but the Civil War has played the most football games. Something for everybody. --MelanieN (talk) 21:15, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Both Stanford and Cal include the rugby matches from 1906 to 1914 as part of the history of the Big Game rivalry. This article is about Big Game, and both schools agree that those rugby matches were Big Games. So, those rugby matches should be listed here. Elmo McGee (talk) 22:23, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

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Moved pre game traditions section to above memorable games.
I think the traditions are an important part of "the big game". It makes sense for a reader to get a complete sense of what is the big game, before moving out to finding out about the highlights of this tradition. Rybkovich (talk) 21:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Big game bonfire pic
I propose that we change the current big game picture to this It is a picture of the actual bonfire and the amphitheater. If we agree I will upload it, it has an allowable creative commons license. Rybkovich (talk) 21:25, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
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Origin of the term "Big Game"
Right now the article states that the term was first used in 1900. Yes the title of the 1900 issue of the San Jose Evening refers to the game as Big Game. However in For the Blue and Gold a 1901 novel, that describes life at the UC sometime in the 1890s (see quote "on that Thanks Giving Day 189-" p. 92), the term is regularly used (See pages 80, 92, 93...) Which would indicate that the term was not "first used in 1900" as stated in the article. I suggest we take that out and put in that the term was already used by 1900. The book - https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=uc2.ark:/13960/t5cc0vf5z&view=1up&seq=2 Rybkovich (talk) 01:31, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I found a source that the term was used before 1900. See the cite. Rybkovich (talk) 18:26, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Start of section Series History
To start the section Series History, it should be “The Big Game”, not just “Big Game” 2601:644:8F01:AA20:A463:20A0:E6D1:9831 (talk) 03:28, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I see that you added "The" to the section already. Let's discuss it here. I have heard it both ways, but probably more without "the" than with, as in "who are you going to Big Game with?" or "Big Game is in Berkeley this year". And the college celebrations mostly omit "the": "Big Game Gaieties", "Big Game Week", etc. "The" is mainly used to talk about a specific game, as in "the 1988 Big Game". Overall I believe it should be called "Big Game", not "the Big Game". -- MelanieN (talk) 03:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Since your addition of "The" changed longstanding content, it needs consensus. I am going to revert it while we discuss. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:43, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

125th Big Game Logo
On the Cal website, they are advertising an “Axe Pack”, with tickets to all home events against Stanford this year. Along with it was a logo for this year’s game. Should it be on this page? 2601:644:8F01:AA20:A463:20A0:E6D1:9831 (talk) 03:58, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
 * I doubt if we can use it. The logo is almost certainly copyrighted. -- MelanieN (talk) 16:00, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

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Louise Solo Career
"Louise embarked on her (what was to be considerably fruitful) solo career"

Are you sure about that?!

Louise got kicked out Eternal as at that time, a mixed race girl group could not be accepted in the world- Eternal management were about to take the girls overseas (the US). Three black girls and one white, this was by far too emancipated. Music is all about selling copies...

 * Yes, that's why the Spice Girls bombed so spectacularly in the USA, isn't it..? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.13.64.30 (talk) 11:12, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

 * Do you have a reliable source for that? — AnemoneProjectors (zomg!) 12:58, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

yea louise was treated very unfairly and was seemed the outsider of the group this needs to be looked into as it could be quite serouisVeggiegirl (talk) 21:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Eternal Greatest Hits.jpg
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Album cover in infobox
I have once again removed the image of the Eternal Greatest Hits album based on Non-free content. Per the acceptable use of images part of that page: "Some copyrighted images may be used on Wikipedia, providing they meet both the legal criteria for fair use, and Wikipedia's own guidelines for non-free content. Copyrighted images that reasonably can be replaced by free/libre images are not suitable for Wikipedia. 1. Cover art: Cover art from various items, for identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)."

An album cover should never be used to identify a group because there is no critical commentary of the album itself. A free use image could be found of the group and used in the infobox to identify the group. Aspects (talk) 18:41, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Which year did they disband?
The article states that they ceased to exist as a group in 1999, but the infobox states years active 1992-2000. Could someone who knows for certain, which year they actually disbanded, please make the necessary correction, so that there is no longer any contradiction present in the article. Werdnawerdna (talk) 02:20, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Their final album was released at the end of 1999, but they were dropped by their label in 2000.79.66.40.159 (talk) 03:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Main Aricles for Bennet Sisters link back to Eternal article
^^ The links for the main articles for the Bennett sisters redirect back to this page. Remove them? --hubare (talk) 09:47, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

An earlier band with the same name
There was a shoegazing band, also called Eternal, who released only one single, "Sleep", on Sarah Records in 1990. Andrew07 (talk) 23:23, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

Linking to my own site
I am the owner of the "Power Of A Woman" website (evkl.net), named after Eternal's second album. I think (hope) it's ok to add this to the links, so I will do that; feel free to remove it if not. Something I'm not sure about is using my own site for citations; most of the material on there is second hand, so I guess it is best avoided. However, if there is no other source, is it sometimes appropriate, or a complete no-no? I am more interested in improving the quality of this page than getting a link to my site. LJFazy (talk) 19:37, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Louise
This article gives her name as Redknapp. However, as she left the band in 1995 and didn't marry until 1998 shouldn't she be named here as Louise Nurding? Britmax (talk) 20:04, 6 September 2014 (UTC).

 * Redknapp is obviously incorrect, however her professional name isn't Louise Nurding, it's simply Louise. 86.155.212.53 (talk) 19:31, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

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Notification of related discussion
The "Vernie Bennett" article was proposed for merging. Here: Talk:Vernie Bennett. (I would suggest you expand it and save it.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 05:44, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Maths
I’m just putting up my name on it so I can login. 2A02:C7C:EE14:9B00:8533:8E7F:95A2:F51D (talk) 06:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Band break up due to homophobic views and anti-LGBTQ
According to the daily mirror they are having problems to sell tickets due to homephobic views, https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/nineties-pop-group-eternal-forced-32227579 2A04:4A43:428F:FB79:C992:F395:207:386C (talk) 15:54, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

 * This is incorrect FALSE information to push an narrative, the band did not break up and are currently active and this needs to stop being listed as such. A performance was cancelled but the band is very much active aswell as the comeback. please post accurate and non-biased takes on the information you provide please and thank you BlueSoul004 (talk) 00:29, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Who keeps editing the page as they're disbanded the group is currently active! BlueSoul004 (talk) 03:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
 * They don’t seem to be active at all as there’s no shows or news about them. 2A04:4A43:448F:E56B:AD84:D9F2:4402:AA30 (talk) 03:01, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CommonwealthSecondary

Huh? Review of teachers? Delete. Also delete Image:36proness.jpg and Image:attn_grab.jpg -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:39, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with prejudice. Admins may also take note of the 112 deleted edits. - Fennec 23:44, May 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. To the Attention Grabbers - I advise you to pass your kind sentiments to your teachers directly.  Not through the pages of an encyclopedia.  I need an extra bottle of milk tomorrow.  I have put a note in one of the previous day's empty bottles for the delivery man.  Not on the ticker of the Dow Jones Index.  Cheers.  --bodnotbod 00:14, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * DELETE!!!!!! And I recommend blocking the user because this was deleted once before! (I don't know the username of the person who posted this on 30 April.) Alcarillo 02:25, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * comment: from reading what's there now I get the impression they put a page of the same title up before lampooning thier teachers. This then became something of a scandal, and now they are seeking to put things right in the same medium.  Makes a certain kind of sense, but obviously isn't the role of Wikipedia. --bodnotbod 02:40, May 6, 2004 (UTC)

 * Speedy delete, block the IPs responsible for this garbage, redirect to Engrish just for the heck of it and keep an eye on the use of the page name so this doesn't get rebuilt through another address. This is one of the nuttiest things I've ever read.  Oh, and I need to flush the radiator in my car this weekend and I think I'll write an article about it. - Lucky 6.9 06:42, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I believe this was deleted merely yesterday. However I can't find the record of the deletion in the archived delete debates. I will speedy delete this today, as per policy, unless someone gives a reason why not. DJ Clayworth 13:46, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
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Sarah Byam

Sarah Byam is an American writer. She is the author of Billi 99.

Biography
During the 1990s Byam wrote a variety of comic books for different publishers. This writing includes the series Mode Extreme and Black Canary. She also wrote individual stories for Elfquest, What If, Glyph and other publications.

She is married to the illustrator David Lee Ingersoll.

Awards

 * 1992: Nominated for "Best Writer" Eisner Award, for Billi 99

title: Sarah Byam


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Holly Golightly (singer)

Holly Golightly (born Holly Golightly Smith on 7 September 1966) is a British singer-songwriter. Her mother christened her after the main character of Truman Capote's Breakfast at Tiffany's. Her musical style ranges from garage rock to R&B.

Musical career
While she was dating Thee Headcoats' drummer Bruce Brand, Holly appeared in an impromptu singing performance with his band. Thee Headcoats founder Billy Childish subsequently added her to the lineup of The Delmonas and changed their name to Thee Headcoatees. The group was primarily a garage band that backed up Thee Headcoats. Golightly started her solo career in 1995 but continued as an active member of Thee Headcoatees until they disbanded in 1999. In her solo career, she has drawn from rhythm and blues, rockabilly, and sounds of the 1960s and earlier. She is a collector of rare old songs which she often covers.

She has released 13 albums of her own and has collaborated with other acts, including Billy Childish, Rocket from the Crypt and The White Stripes. She has two songs on the soundtrack of the Jim Jarmusch film Broken Flowers: "There Is an End (featuring Holly Golightly)" by the Greenhornes (which also appears on the Greenhornes album Dual Mono), and "Tell Me Now So I Know" (found on her album Truly She Is None Other), a song written by Ray Davies.

2000s
Golightly formed a duo in the mid-2000s, recording and touring extensively with longtime bandmate Lawyer Dave. Based in the United States, the duo, known as Holly Golightly and the Brokeoffs, released five albums and one EP between 2007 and 2012. Their first album, You Can't Buy a Gun When You're Crying, is a reference to comedian Lord Carrett's joke "I learned a lot from my second marriage... I learned they won't sell you a handgun if you're crying..." Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs were winners at the ninth annual Independent Music Awards for Best Americana Album, with Dirt Don't Hurt. In 2003, she sang with The White Stripes on the track "It's True That We Love One Another" on their fourth album, Elephant. Time Out New York described her as an "English garage rock doyenne." In 2012, they released Sunday Run Me Over, their first album recorded entirely at their home in rural Georgia.

LPs

 * The Good Things (1995, Damaged Goods)
 * The Main Attraction (1996, Damaged Goods)
 * Laugh It Up (1996, Vinyl Japan)
 * Painted On (1997, Sympathy for the Record Industry)
 * Serial Girlfriend (1998, Damaged Goods)
 * In Blood (1999, with Billy Childish, Damaged Goods)
 * God Don't Like It (2000, Damaged Goods)
 * Live in America (2000, Majestic Twelve Records)
 * Desperate Little Town (2001, with Dan Melchior, Sympathy for the Record Industry)
 * Truly She Is None Other (2003)
 * Slowly but Surely (2004, Damaged Goods)
 * Slowtown Now! (2015, Damaged Goods)
 * Do the Get Along (2018, Damaged Goods)

 * Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs
 * You Can't Buy a Gun When You're Crying (2007)
 * Nobody Will Be There (2007)
 * Dirt Don't Hurt (2008)
 * Medicine County (2010, Transdreamer Records)
 * No Help Coming (2011, Transdreamer Records)
 * Long Distance (2012, Damaged Goods)
 * Sunday Run Me Over (2012, Transdreamer Records)
 * All Her Fault (2014, Transdreamer Records)
 * Coulda Shoulda Woulda (2015, Transdreamer Records)
 * Clippety Clop (2018, Transdreamer Records)

Live albums and compilations

 * Up the Empire (Live, 1998, Sympathy for the Record Industry)
 * Live in America (2000)
 * Singles Round-Up (2000, Damaged Goods)
 * Down Gina's at 3 (Live, 2004)
 * Live at Maxwell's 24 November 2004 (2004)
 * My First Holly Golightly Album (2005, compilation with eight new songs)
 * Down the Line (Compilation, 2006, Damaged Goods)
 * nobody will be there (Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs) (Live, 2011, Damaged Goods)

Singles, EPs

 * Jiggy Jiggy with Holly Golightly EP (1994), Vinyl Japan
 * "Virtually Happy" (1995), Damaged Goods
 * Mary-Ann EP (1996), Vinyl Japan
 * "No Big Thing" (1996), Hangman's Daughter
 * "Girl in the Shower" (1996), Super Electro
 * "Pinky Please Come Back" (1996), Super Electro
 * "Come the Day" (1996), Damaged Goods
 * "Believe Me" (1997), Sympathy for the Record Industry
 * "Listen/Rain Down Rain" (1999), KRS
 * "Walk a Mile" (2003), Damaged Goods
 * "On the Fire" (2005), Damaged Goods
 * "Christmas Tree on Fire" (2006), Damaged Goods
 * "My 45" (2008), Damaged Goods (Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs)
 * "Devil Do" EP (2009), Transdreamer Records (Holly Golightly & the Brokeoffs)
 * "Seven Wonders" (2015), Damaged Goods

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Glassceiling

DicDef, stolen from www.m-w.com. Delete unless expanded -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:46, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep, rewritten version is good -- Chris 73 | Talk 22:52, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

 * Comment: Clearly unacceptable as it stands, with its proud statement of copyviolation. Can't decide if it could become an article.  Would any article that would arise essentially be an extended etymology? --bodnotbod 23:52, May 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Move to Copyright problems -- Cyrius|&#9998 01:01, May 6, 2004 (UTC)
 * I fixed it up. Should be a decent stub now. -- VV 02:00, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * comment: As a new person, I can't help think it's still a dic.def. but now with added links. I think it's a good thing to define, but perhaps the 'glass ceiling' thing should just be a part of the articles you've helpfully linked to? I'll see what others have to say.--bodnotbod 02:56, May 6, 2004 (UTC)

 * V's cleanup looks fine. Keep. Alcarillo 02:27, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. We shouldn't create artificial barriers preventing this now fine stub from becoming a full article.  TB 08:29, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep the fixed version. Andris 05:02, May 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep the new version. --VTEX 05:26, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
 * keep, of course. Does anybody bother trying to edit these articles, or is it just the practice to VfD anytime one's blood pressure increases while reading the encyclopedia?SimBot2 17:49, 10 May 2004 (UTC)


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Talk:New York Dolls

Release Date of Bad Detective
I am trying to track down the precise release date for "Bad Detective" by New York Dolls (from their album Too Much Too Soon. Recording or composition  date for each song would be ideal, but I'll settle for release date.  How do you find the release date for 1974 songs? --Alecmconroy 13:24, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Morissey wasn't president
In the documentary New York Doll, Morissey denies having been the president of the New York Dolls fan club. I have seen it before but don't have a copy, so if someone can verify this, I'd like to have the section under 'influence' that repeats this misconception deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.228.104.234 (talk • contribs) 08:27, 1 August 2006

Fan boy crap
For goodness sake this meant to be an encyclopedia not a fanzine. Is it any wonder that Wikipedia is held in such low regard when an article features bullshit like: '' —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.67.235 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 14 January 2008
 * incontestable classics of raw, protopunk, anything-goes rock and roll.
 * endearingly motley "Top Cat"-like street gang,
 * truly seminal squalls of proto-punk rock
 * Halloween Party At The Old Warhol Place With whatever You Can Swipe From Your Girlfriend's Wardrobe.
 * possessing verve, nerve and cheeky ideas aplenty.
 * ''a series of funny, strutting, high-energy vignettes from the seamy New York underground.

Blackie Lawless
Blackie Lawless, born in 1956, was a "childhood friend" of Arthur Killer Kane, born in 1949?? Nah. 217.132.61.216 (talk) 21:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Current pic
What is with Wikipedia and posting Current pics of bands who preformed decades ago? Sure they still get together, but shouldn't their picture be from their heyday? The one up looks like crap and they look half dead. I don't think it would be hard to find a PD picture of them, and their PR department (if such a thing exists) would be more then willing to send over a stock photo to use if someone asked. I'd do it my self but every edit I make gets reverted since I don't have an account and am prone to vandalism :-p 68.120.226.27 (talk) 05:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Not only is the photo too current, the photo of the New York Dolls should be the original band members. Since some of them are dead, an older photo is essential. I think it'd be great to have two photos, with a picture from the seventies at the top, and the current lineup below. (Their hits were from the original lineup, not the current group.) At any rate, I was wondering why there was a New York Dolls photo without Johnny Thunders. Gotmywaderson (talk) 21:02, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Member Timeline
I have added a visual timeline in the Members section to the best of my ability. If anyone can help by adding more accurate dates, please do so.Casinote (talk) 17:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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Nonsensical sentence needs rewrite
Under the heading "History: Dissolution: 1975–77", the last sentence of the second paragraph states "H after Thunders and Nolan left, until their final dissolution." Obviously the beginning of that sentence was truncated. Could someone resurrect its original content? Bricology (talk) 07:06, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Good catch, Bricology. I've fixed the sentence. — MShabazz Talk/Stalk 11:33, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

New York Dolls - "hard rock" and "glam rock"? Nonsense!
Actually New York Dolls is NOT a "hard rock" or "glam rock" band. Just a (proto-)punk band with transvestite look. Delete these tags!

 * Not punk at all! That's a joke. Both a glam rock outfit and a bad Rolling Stones tribute band. "Mock Rock" as Whispering Bob Harris called their music. Acorrector (talk) 19:50, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

This article needs HEAVY editing to make it readable. I know a huge fan of the Dolls (who knew the 3 principals) and I'll ask him. Jeez, what a mess.

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Battle of Corupedium

The Battle of Corupedium, also called Koroupedion, Corupedion or Curupedion (Κύρου πεδίον or Κόρου πεδίον, "the plain of Kyros or Koros") was the last battle between the Diadochi, the rival successors to Alexander the Great. It was fought in 281 BC between the armies of Lysimachus and Seleucus I Nicator. Lysimachus had ruled Thrace for decades and parts of western Asia Minor ever since the Battle of Ipsus. Recently he had finally gained control over Macedon. Seleucus ruled the Seleucid Empire, including lands currently covered by modern eastern Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, and Iran. Almost nothing is known about the battle itself save that Seleucus won the battle. Lysimachus died during the fighting. According to Memnon of Heraclea's History of Heraclea Pontica, Lysimachus was killed by a javelin thrown by Malacon, a Heracleian soldier serving under Seleucus.

Although the victory gave Seleucus nominal control over nearly every part of Alexander's empire, save the Ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt, his victory was short-lived. After crossing the Hellespont to take possession of Lysimachus' European holdings not long after the battle, Seleucus was assassinated by Ptolemy Keraunos and Macedon swiftly became independent once again.

The two men had been rivals for a long time as Lysimachus wished to expand his influence east, while Seleucus wished to expand his influence west, however, the event that actually started the war was the murder of Agathocles. Agathocles was the eldest son of Lysimachus and his first wife Nicaea and was the heir to his father’s realm. However, Lysimachus’ third and current wife, Arsinoe, wanted her children on the throne and so conspired with Ptolemy Keraunos to have Agathocles killed. They accused him of plotting with Seleucus to take the throne, and Lysimachus was convinced and put his son to death. This terrible act led many cities in Asia Minor to revolt against the rule of Thrace. Agathocles’ widow and their children fled to Seleucus, giving him an opportunity to attack Lysimachus when he was weak, which he could not refuse. He invaded and subsequently won at Corupedion.

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Ngũgĩ wa Mirii

Ngũgĩ wa Mirii (1951 – 2/3 May 2008) was a Kenyan-Zimbabwean playwright, social worker and teacher, most known for his play Ngaahika Ndeenda, which he co-authored with fellow Gikuyu writer Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o. The play depicts the injustices and excesses of post-colonial Kenya, and was staged by non-intellectuals in an open-air theatre at the Kamirithu Educational and Cultural Center in Limuru.

Early life
Born in Roromo, Limuru, Kenya, Ngũgĩ wa Mirii was the second born in a family of six children born to John Mirii and Elizabeth Wanjiku. He was educated at Ngenia Secondary School and from 1972 to 1974 worked with the Kenya Posts and Telecommunications Corporation. He obtained a diploma in Adult Education at the Institute of Adult Studies, Nairobi University, and then joined the Institute of Development Studies. While working there he became involved with peasants and workers in community development at Kamiriithu, Limuru.

Playwright
In 1977, Ngũgĩ wa Mirii and Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o co-authored a play titled Ngaahika Ndeenda (I Will Marry When I Want). Both playwrights were arrested six weeks after the play debuted, and detained in prison.

Five years later, their next play Mother Cry for Me, forced both playwrights into exile, with Ngũgĩ wa Mirii settling in Zimbabwe while Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o fled first to Britain, and then to the United States.

Exile
In 1982, Ngũgĩ wa Mirii fled to Zimbabwe where he lived in exile. Ngũgĩ wa Mirii was joined a year later by his wife, Wairimu wa Ngũgĩ and one-year old daughter, Elizabeth Wanjiku Ngũgĩ. He then joined Zimbabwean Foundation for Education with Production (ZIMFEP) where he worked for several years.

In Zimbabwe, he wrote extensively about the Pan-African cause. In 1985, he was awarded funding to found the Zimbabwean Association of Community Theatre. He was granted Zimbabwean citizenship shortly after.

Ngũgĩ wa Mirii was known as a supporter of Robert Mugabe and Zanu-PF.

Death
On 3 May 2008, Ngũgĩ wa Mirii died in a car accident in Zimbabwe, after he drove into a stationary lorry nearby the suburb of Eastlea. He was 57 at the time.

Works

 * Ngaahika Ndeenda (I Will Marry When I Want), co-written with Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o (1977)

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Ayyub

Ayyub may refer to:

 * Ayub (name), a given name
 * Ayyub (crater), an impact crater in the northern hemisphere of Saturn's moon Enceladus
 * Ayyub, Iran, a village in Kurdistan Province, Iran
 * Najm ad-Din Ayyub, full name Najm ad-Din Ayyub, founder of the Ayyubid dynasty
 * Job in Islam
 * Abu Ayyub al-Ansari, a companion (sahaba) of Muhammad
 * Ayyub's Castle (from the Arabic Qalat 'Ayyūb), the original foundation of Calatayud, Province of Zaragoza, Aragón, Spain

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Old Ottawa South

Old Ottawa South is an older urban neighbourhood in Capital Ward in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. Old Ottawa South is a relatively small and compact neighbourhood, located between the Rideau Canal (to the north) and the Rideau River (to the south). The eastern boundary is Avenue Road. Bronson Avenue forms the western border of the residential neighbourhood. Carleton University is on the other (western) side of Bronson but the campus can be considered to be geographically within Old Ottawa South as the campus is also nestled between the river and the canal.

According to the Canada 2016 Census, the population of the neighbourhood was 6,348

Today, Old Ottawa South is an upper-middle-class area. Proximity to the university has meant that the neighbourhood has been a haven for professors and students, although rising housing prices are driving out the latter. It is also one of Ottawa's more politically progressive neighbourhoods and has been a stronghold for the New Democratic Party.

Many neighbourhood businesses line Bank Street, including several pubs, the Mayfair Theatre, and some Lebanese stores towards the Southern end. This section of Bank Street is also well known for its antique stores. As part of a 2004 Bank Street redesign, inlaid metal maple leaves were added to the sidewalks inscribed with the names of Canadian folk musicians. Other new features included the removal of overhead powerlines, "traffic calming" measures, and the addition of more brick to the sidewalks.

History
The area was originally settled around 1814 by American and British settlers. In those years, even after the construction of the canal the area was fairly sparsely populated. The larger community south of the Rideau River around the Billings estate exerted more influence over the fledgling community than the city of Ottawa did in those days.

Shortly after Confederation in 1867, a bridge was built over the canal increasing access from the larger city to the north. The area was tentatively called Rideauville at the time. After the turn of the century, the area grew rapidly. Rideauville was incorporated as a police village in 1905 and was annexed to Ottawa in 1907. The streetcar tracks were extended to the area around 1910, again encouraging rapid growth. The old streetcar ran along a route roughly similar to today's bus route #7, turning around in what is now Brewer Park. Hopewell School was built around this time.

The architectural style is mostly "Craftsman", with many houses in the American Foursquare style popular in the 1920s and 1930s. Many of these houses have been upgraded and added to over the years, contributing to the area's eclectic style.

Since the 1920s, the streetcars have been replaced by buses, stores have changed, and Carleton University has been constructed on the site of an old garbage dump. Many of the streetscapes and much of the housing has been preserved however.

In the 1920s, the area opened Brighton Beach, a public swimming venue on the shore of the Rideau River. It was opened for residents of the area to conduct water sports and to take swimming lessons. Brighton Beach was officially closed in 1970 due to adherence to new City of Ottawa pollution standards.

Notable buildings include Hopewell Avenue Public School, Southminster Church, St. Margaret Mary Church, Trinity Church, the Mayfair Theatre, the former Precious Blood Convent (now the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada), and the Old Firehall (currently a community centre).

Around 300 residences and institutional buildings are included on Ottawa's heritage reference list (an inventory of sites & structures potentially considered for legal protection as cultural heritage resources) from the area.

Old Ottawa South, used to be known simply as "Ottawa South". The "old" designation came into use in the 1990s to distinguish the community from newer suburban developments in the south of Ottawa. "Old Ottawa South" is quite central and close to downtown by modern (post World War II) standards. The term "Ottawa South" is still in use in some contexts. For example, the community newspaper is The OSCAR, which stands for Ottawa South Community Association Review. Similarly, Old Ottawa South is not to be confused with the parliamentary constituency of Ottawa South. Old Ottawa South is currently located in the federal and provincial constituencies of Ottawa Centre, although Old Ottawa South was within the Ottawa South provincial riding until 1999.

In the fall of 2007, leading up to the 100th anniversary of the annexation of Ottawa South to the City of Ottawa on December 16, 2007, a group of residents founded the Ottawa South History Project (OSHP) to research, document and present facts and anecdotes about the history of the community. The OSHP is an amateur-run historical society which regularly publishes in The OSCAR and maintains a website. The group is also active in supporting the heritage designation of the Mayfair Theatre and is a partner in the Friends of the Mayfair Theatre.

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Krazy (comics)

Krazy was a British comic book magazine published every Monday by IPC Magazines Ltd. It ran from (issues dates) 16 October 1976 to 15 April 1978, when it merged with stable-mate Whizzer and Chips. In 1977, one of the characters in the comic, Cheeky, proved popular enough to get his own comic, Cheeky, which was later merged into Whoopee!. The comic included a "disguise" back-cover, such as the cover of a diary or brochure, which allowed readers to hide the comic from parents or teachers (although one issue on April Fools' Day had the front cover upside down).

Stories
Krazy was noted for its rich content of small humorous jokes and illustrations positioned at random places among the comic strips and features. The central storyline of the comic centred around the exploits of a group of children called the Krazy Gang who lived in Krazy Town, featured in a comic strip drawn by cartoonist Ian Knox. The Krazy Gang also spawned spin-off stories within the same publication: Pongalongapongo, featuring Pongo Snodgrass, the unhygienic, bullying antagonist; and 'ello, It's Cheeky, a mischievous buck-toothed prankster and Krazy Gang member, drawn by Frank McDiarmid. Cheeky's popularity outgrew the spin-off strip, and after a few months the character featured in his own publication, Cheeky Weekly, launched in October 1977.

Other strip artists included Robert Nixon, Terry Bave and Bryan Hitch.

Regular Krazy comic strips included:

 * 'ello, It's Cheeky
 * Big Game Hunter (comic strip)|Big Game Hunter
 * Birdman and Chicken
 * Detective Fumbly's (Nut) Case Book, a text story usually with one illustration, rather than a conventional strip
 * Fit Fred and Sick Sid
 * Handy Andy
 * Hit Kid
 * Kid Comic
 * The Krazy Gang
 * Micky Mimic
 * Paws
 * Pongalongapongo
 * Ray Presto
 * Over-Helpful Helen, a story about a well-meaning young lady that is always poking her nose into other people's business
 * Scaredy Cat
 * The 12½p Buytonic Boy

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KROQ Weenie Roast

KROQ Weenie Roast is a multi-artist music concert, presented annually in May by the Los Angeles, California, modern rock radio station KROQ-FM. Since its beginning in 1993, it has been traditionally held on a Saturday in May or June, but due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there have been no editions of the festival since 2019.

Overview
Every year, the KROQ Weenie Roast had taken place at Irvine Meadows/Verizon Wireless Amphitheatre, in Irvine, California with exception in 2000 when it was held at the Angel Stadium, then-known as the Edison International Field, in Anaheim, California. In 2016 Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre was demolished, and KROQ responded by announcing that the 2017 edition would take place at StubHub Center in Carson.

From 2006 to 2009, the event was re-branded as Weenie Roast y Fiesta with the distribution of complimentary sombreros for its festival attendees. In 2012 in conjunction with Cinco de Mayo it returned to the Weenie Roast y Fiesta name again. Its East Coast "sister" concert, presented by KROQ-FM's Baltimore/Washington, DC affiliate station WHFS, is the HFStival. Its northern California "sister" concert, presented by KROQ-FM's Bay Area affiliate station KITS, is the BFD festival.

With the Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre's land lease due to expire in 2017, KROQ-FM announced that the 2016 event would be the last to be held at the venue. The Red Hot Chili Peppers were forced to cancel their headlining slot at the 2016 Weenie Roast, as singer Anthony Kiedis was rushed to the hospital prior to the band appearing on stage, due to severe stomach pain. His bandmates made the official announcement on the stage as they were due to appear. Weezer replaced them as the headlining act.

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, there have been no editions of the festival since 2019.

Lineups
Bands listed in reverse order of night's performance (or alphabetical order if not known).

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Middle Tennessee State University

Middle Tennessee State University (MTSU or MT) is a public University in Murfreesboro, Tennessee. Founded in 1911 as a normal school, the university consists of eight undergraduate colleges as well as a college of graduate studies, together offering more than 300 degree programs through more than 35 departments. The university has partnered in research endeavors with the United States Army, and the United States Marine Corps. It is classified among "R2: Doctoral Universities".

Prior to 2017, MTSU was governed by the Tennessee Board of Regents and part of the State University and Community College System of Tennessee. In 2017, governance was transferred to an institutional board of trustees. MTSU is accredited by the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges. MTSU athletics programs compete intercollegiately in the NCAA Division I as a member of Conference USA.

History

One of the earliest calls for a normal school occurred in 1855 when a Wilson County, Tennessee, politician sought to build a normal school in Lebanon, Tennessee. Education efforts collapsed shortly after the breakout of the American Civil War. Later, state superintendents and teachers traveled around the state giving speeches about the dire need for teacher preparation. In 1909, the Tennessee General Assembly moved establish three teacher-training institutions, one in each of the grand divisions of the state.

Middle Tennessee State Normal School (MTSNS or MTNS) opened on September 11, 1911, with a two-year program for training teachers. It evolved into a four-year teachers' college by 1925 with the power of granting the Bachelor of Science degree, and the institution's name was changed for the first time to Middle Tennessee State Teachers College. The school was often abbreviated as "S.T.C." In 1943, the General Assembly designated the institution a state college, changing its name for the second time to Middle Tennessee State College. This new status marked a sharp departure from the founding purpose and opened the way for expanding curricular offerings and programs. In 1965, the institution was advanced to university status, changing its name to Middle Tennessee State University. In October 2010, the Student Government Association at MTSU proposed that the university be renamed to the "University of Middle Tennessee". However, approval from both the university administration and the Tennessee Board of Regents was required and was not granted.

During the progressive movement from a two-year normal to a university, several significant milestones may be identified. In 1936, the Bachelor of Arts program was added. Responding to the expressed needs of the institution's service area, the Graduate School was established in 1951. To effect better communications and improve administrative supervision, the schools concept was introduced in 1962.

As Middle Tennessee State University developed and grew, the Doctor of Arts program was added in 1970 and the Specialist in Education in 1974. These degree programs became attractive centerpieces for other efforts to improve and enhance institutional roles. Library resources were dramatically increased and sophisticated computer services were developed to aid instruction and administration. A highly trained faculty enabled the university to continue growth in program offerings. In 1991, the university's six schools—five undergraduate and the graduate school—became colleges. In 1998, MTSU's Honors program became the Honors College, the first in the state. In 2002, approval was granted to redesignate three D.A. programs to Doctor of Philosophy programs. Ph.D. degree offerings now include computational sciences, mathematics, and science education, molecular biosciences, economics, English, human performance, public history, and literacy studies.

In 1986, James McGill Buchanan ('40) became the first MT alumnus to be awarded the Nobel Prize. He received the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his pioneering role in the development of the field of public choice, a way of studying the behavior of politicians and bureaucrats. The MTSU Honors College has named a full-tuition fellowship after James Buchanan; this honor is given to 20 students each year who take specialized courses through the Honors College.

Colleges

MTSU is organized into seven colleges:

 * College of Basic and Applied Sciences
 * College of Behavioral and Health Sciences
 * College of Education
 * College of Liberal Arts
 * College of Media and Entertainment
 * Jennings A. Jones College of Business
 * University College

Faculty
Middle Tennessee State University employs about 1200 faculty members, with a student-to-faculty ratio of 17:1.

Department of Recording Industry
The Department of Recording Industry is within the College of Media and Entertainment. The Rolling Stone College Guide recognized MTSU as having "one of the preeminent music business programs in the country."

Department of Aerospace
The Department of Aerospace offers an Aerospace Bachelor of Science degree with six concentrations: Aviation Management, Aerospace Technology, Flight Dispatch, Maintenance Management, Professional Pilot, and Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS). An Aeronautical Science master's degree is also available. Each concentration has been accredited by the Aviation Accreditation Board International, and the aerospace program as a whole has been accredited since 1992. The Department of Aerospace has a working agreement with the single-runway Murfreesboro Municipal Airport to provide classes on-site. A decommissioned Boeing 727 airliner (donated by FedEx) is housed at the airport as a teaching tool. American Airlines donated a 727 cockpit procedure trainer to MTSU.

The aerospace program's training fleet is made up of Diamond DA40 single-engine aircraft featuring glass cockpits, with an assortment of other single- and multi-engine aircraft available. In 2010, the Department of Aerospace purchased ten radar simulators as well as a one-of-a-kind 360 degree control tower simulator to enhance training for its air traffic control students. These simulators allow students to experience lifelike air traffic control scenarios that will aid in preparing them for training at the FAA Academy in Oklahoma City.

Campus

The campus, set on 466 acre, features 234 permanent buildings with 3.1 e6sqft of space. It is 1 mi from the geographic center of Tennessee and 1.3 mi east of downtown Murfreesboro.

There are 12 residence halls on campus, as well as two apartment complexes. The residence halls were being renovated and modernized. In addition to the residence halls, one fraternity and six sororities have chapter houses on Greek Row.

In the center is the main quad, surrounded by the Learning Resource Center, the Business and Aerospace Building, the Mass Communications Building, and the James E. Walker Library. One of the newest facilities is the US$147 million Science Building adjacent to the library, on the south end of campus. The eastern part of campus features some of the newest structures, such as the College of Education, Student Union, and the Academic Classroom which is the newest building at a cost of $47 million. Other notable facilities include the Recreation Center, softball field, intramural fields, and Greek Row.

In addition to alcohol prohibitions, all tobacco products, including electronic cigarettes, are prohibited on campus.

The Japanese Supplementary School in Middle Tennessee (JSMT, 中部テネシー日本語補習校 Chūbu Teneshī Nihongo Hoshūkō), a weekend Japanese education program, holds its classes at Peck Hall, while its school offices are in Jefferson Square.

Media outlets
Due to a significant emphasis on Mass Communication at MTSU, the campus has several mass media outlets. Sidelines is the campus's editorially independent, student-run news source, with daily content online and special print editions three times per semester. Off Center is an online-only publication sponsored by the Margaret H. Ordubadian University Writing Center. Collage: A Journal of Creative Expression is the Honors College's semesterly magazine for student-submitted literary and artistic creative works. MT10 (formerly known as MTTV), a student-run TV station, is carried locally by Comcast. The two radio stations on MTSU's campus are 88.3 FM WMTS, a student-run radio station, and 89.5 FM WMOT, a publicly supported Americana & Roots Music radio station operated in a partnership with Music City Roots, a weekly Americana live performance entity based in nearby Franklin, Tennessee.

Sidelines
Sidelines, founded in 1925, is the editorially independent, student-run newspaper of MTSU. The physical product is printed by The Tennessean, while the digital edition is hosted at MTSUSidelines.com. Archives for Sidelines between 1938 and 2011 are available in MTSU's digital collections.

Off Center: A Creative Magazine for the MTSU Community
Off Center, first published online in 2016, is a student-led publication produced by the tutors of the Margaret H. Ordubadian University Writing Center which focuses on the creative works of students, faculty, and staff.

Scientia et Humanitas
Scientia et Humanitas is a peer-reviewed journal sponsored by the University Honors College which allows undergraduate and graduate students a professional publishing experience, and shares academic research on campus. Scientia et Humanitas was first published in 2011.

Student organizations
The university is host to approximately 340 student organizations, fraternities, and interest groups. About five percent of undergraduate men and nine percent of undergraduate women are active in MTSU's Greek system.

MTSU's Greek Life consists of numerous social fraternities and sororities.

The Band of Blue is considered the largest student organization on campus, counting approximately 350 members each year; it is a marching band.

The university hosts MT Lambda, an LGBTQ organization for students founded in 1988.

Athletics

Middle Tennessee's athletic teams, known as the Blue Raiders, compete in Conference USA of the NCAA's Division I in the Football Bowl Subdivision. On November 29, 2012, MTSU announced they had accepted an invitation to the conference, and formally became a part of Conference USA on July 1, 2013. The school transferred from the Sun Belt Conference, and had participated in the Ohio Valley Conference before that.

The most prominent athletic facilities on the campus are Johnny "Red" Floyd football stadium, Murphy Center basketball arena, Reese Smith Jr. baseball field, and Alumni Memorial Gym volleyball court. MTSU has won two national championships: golf in 1965, and men's doubles tennis in 2007. The Blue Raider football team won the Sun Belt Championship two times (2001 and 2006) and has participated in thirteen bowl games (1956, 1959, 1961, 1964, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2013, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, & 2021) with a 5-8 bowl record. The Blue Raider Baseball team has sixteen conference titles and fourteen NCAA tournament appearances.

The MTSU mascot is "Lightning", a winged horse based on Pegasus from Greek mythology.

Notable alumni
MTSU's alumni include:

 * Julien Baker, rock artist
 * Sharon Van Etten, singer-songwriter
 * Reed Blankenship, football player
 * James M. Buchanan, economist
 * Kevin Byard, football player
 * Seth Christian, film director
 * Alysha Clark, basketball player
 * George S. Clinton, composer
 * Donna Scott Davenport, former MTSU adjunct professor; retired juvenile court judge
 * Albert Gore Sr., politician
 * Hardy, country music artist
 * Kelly Holcomb, football player
 * Amber Holt, basketball player
 * Chris James, audio engineer
 * Tay Keith, music producer
 * Lecrae, rapper
 * Amy Lee, singer
 * Sondra Locke, actress
 * Bayer Mack, music executive
 * Hillary Scott, country music artist (Lady A)
 * Chuck Taylor, MLB baseball player
 * Chris Young, singer

Nobel Prize laureates
In 1986, James McGill Buchanan ('40) became the first MTSU alumnus to be awarded the Nobel Prize. Buchanan received the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences for his pioneering role in the development of the field of public choice, a way of studying politician's and bureaucrat's behaviors.

In addition, former MTSU economics professor Muhammad Yunus received the Nobel Peace Prize for efforts through microcredit to create economic and social development.

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