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Dracula (1958 film)

Dracula is a 1958 British gothic horror film directed by Terence Fisher and written by Jimmy Sangster based on Bram Stoker's 1897 novel of the same name. The first in the series of Hammer Horror films starring Christopher Lee as Count Dracula, the film also features Peter Cushing as Doctor Van Helsing, along with Michael Gough, Melissa Stribling, Carol Marsh, and John Van Eyssen. In the United States, the film was retitled Horror of Dracula to avoid confusion with the U.S. original by Universal Pictures, 1931's Dracula.

Production began at Bray Studios on 17 November 1957 with an investment of £81,000. As Count Dracula, Lee fixed the image of the fanged vampire in popular culture. Christopher Frayling writes, "Dracula introduced fangs, red contact lenses, décolletage, ready-prepared wooden stakes and – in the celebrated credits sequence – blood being spattered from off-screen over the Count's coffin." Lee also introduced a dark, brooding sexuality to the character, with Tim Stanley stating, "Lee's sensuality was subversive in that it hinted that women might quite like having their neck chewed on by a stud".

In 2017, a poll of 150 actors, directors, writers, producers and critics for Time Out magazine saw Dracula ranked the 65th best British film ever. Empire magazine ranked Lee's portrayal as Count Dracula the 7th Greatest Horror Movie Character of All Time.

Plot
In 1885, Jonathan Harker arrives at Count Dracula's castle near Klausenburg to take up his post as librarian. Inside, he is startled by a young woman who claims to be a prisoner and begs for his help. Dracula arrives, greets Harker, and guides him to his room. Alone, Jonathan writes in his diary, revealing his true intentions: he is a vampire hunter and has come to flush out Dracula.

Sometime later, Harker again is confronted by the woman. She reveals herself to be a vampire and bites his neck. Dracula arrives and pulls her away as Harker passes out. After awakening in his room in daylight, Harker discovers the bite marks on his neck. He realizes he has lost nearly an entire period of daylight. Harker writes a final entry in his journal and hides the book outside the castle. He descends into a crypt to find Dracula and the vampire woman resting in their coffins. Harker first stakes the woman, who withers to old age and dies. He then turns to Dracula's coffin and finds it empty. Dracula, awakened and angry, closes the door to the crypt, trapping Harker.

Days pass, and Doctor Van Helsing arrives in Klausenburg, looking for Harker. An innkeeper's daughter gives him Harker's journal. He travels to Dracula's castle and finds it deserted, but comes across the portrait that Harker had of his fiancée Lucy Holmwood, with the photos now gone. He finds Harker in Dracula's coffin in the crypt, transformed into a vampire. Van Helsing stakes him before leaving for the town of Karlstadt and delivering the news of Harker's death to Arthur Holmwood and his wife Mina, brother and sister-in-law of Lucy, who is ill. When night falls, Lucy opens the doors to her terrace and lays bare her neck—already, it bears the mark of a vampire bite. Dracula then arrives and bites her again.

Mina seeks out Van Helsing's aid in treating Lucy, who begs the maid Gerda to remove his prescribed garlic bouquets and is found dead the next day. Van Helsing turns over Harker's journal to Arthur. Three days after her burial, an undead Lucy lures Gerda's daughter Tania to a graveyard, where Arthur has found Lucy's tomb empty. Van Helsing appears and wards Lucy off with a cross. He explains to Arthur that Lucy was targeted to replace the woman Harker killed. Van Helsing suggests using her to lead them to Dracula, but Arthur refuses, and Van Helsing stakes her in her coffin. Arthur takes one final look at Lucy's body and sees her at peace.

Van Helsing and Arthur travel to the border crossing at Ingolstadt to track down Dracula's coffin. Meanwhile, Mina receives a message supposedly from Arthur, telling her to go to Karlstadt, where Dracula waits. The next day, Arthur and Van Helsing visit the undertaker but find Dracula's coffin missing. Later, Arthur tries to give Mina a cross to wear, which burns her, revealing that she is turning into a vampire herself. During the night, Dracula appears inside the house and bites her. Arthur agrees to give her a blood transfusion administered by Van Helsing. When Arthur asks Gerda to fetch some wine, she tells him Mina forbade her to go down to the cellar. Upon hearing this, Van Helsing bolts downstairs and finds Dracula's coffin, which is empty. Dracula has escaped with Mina, intent on making her his new vampire bride.

A chase ensues as Dracula rushes to return to his castle before sunrise. He attempts to bury Mina alive outside the crypt but is interrupted by Van Helsing and Arthur. Pursuing Dracula inside the castle, Van Helsing struggles with the vampire before eventually tearing down the curtains to let in the sunlight. Van Helsing forms a cross with two candlesticks, driving Dracula into the sun's rays, and he crumbles into dust as Van Helsing looks on. Mina recovers and the cross-shaped scar fades from her hand while Dracula's ashes blow away in the morning breeze, leaving only his clothes and ring behind.

Concept
As Christopher Lee remarked in an interview in Leonard Wolf's A Dream of Dracula: "I was always against the whole tie and tails rendition. Surely it is the height of the ridiculous for a vampire to step out of the shadows wearing white tie, tails, patent leather shoes and a full cloak". Lee said that he never watched any other performances of Dracula until well after making his films, and that when he got the first [Dracula] role with little time to prepare he "had to hurry off to read the book...[and] played it fresh, with no knowledge of previous performances."

In the same interview, Lee said the following about Dracula: "He had also to have an erotic element about him (and not because he sank his teeth into women)... It's a mysterious matter and has something to do with the physical appeal of the person who's draining your life. It's like being a sexual blood donor... Women are attracted to men for any of hundreds of reasons. One of them is a response to the demand to give oneself, and what greater evidence of giving is there than your blood flowing literally from your own bloodstream? It's the complete abandonment of a woman to the power of a man".

Lee believed he had discovered something in the character that hadn't been done before: "And also because I had read the book and I had perhaps discovered something in the character which other people hadn't or hadn't noticed or hadn't decided to present, and that is that the character is heroic, erotic and romantic". He also saw a certain tragedy in Dracula and tried to inject it into playing him: "I've always tried to put an element of sadness, which I've termed the loneliness of evil, into his character. Dracula doesn't want to live, but he's got to! He doesn't want to go on existing as the undead, but he has no choice."

Lee also felt that it was important to stay faithful to Stoker's novel and was frustrated with his Hammer Dracula films: "The stories as I've had them given to me have had almost no relation to the book...which is my reiterated complaint." "My one great regret has always been that I have never been able to present the Count exactly as Bram Stoker described him in every way. This was always due to poor scripts and a lack of imagination on the part of people who never seemed to understand the full potential of the story."

Filming
When Hammer asked for an adaptation of Stoker's novel, screenwriter Jimmy Sangster decided to streamline it to fit it into less than ninety minutes of screen time, and shooting on a low budget within the confines of Bray Studios and its surrounding estate. Working under these limitations, Sangster posited that Jonathan Harker travels to Dracula's castle intending to destroy Dracula (not to complete a real estate transaction, as in the novel) and gets killed, made Arthur Holmwood into Mina's husband and Lucy into Harker's fiancée and Arthur's sister. The characters Renfield and Quincey Morris were dropped completely. The subplot of the harrowing voyage of the ship that carries Dracula and his coffins to England was also abandoned and is replaced in the film by a short hearse ride because all of the action takes place in a relatively small area of Central Europe. The character of Van Helsing also differed from the figure in the original novel. Cushing explained the transformation: "[The Curse of] Frankenstein became this enormous success, and there I was when I was a younger man, and audiences got used to me looking like that. And I said, 'Now look here, what do we do with Van Helsing? I mean, do you cast a little old man with a beard who speaks Double Dutch or me? It's silly to make me up like that. Why don't you get someone who looks like him?' So we all decided, well, let's forget that and play him as I am, as I was then."

Dracula's ability to transform [into wolf, bat or mist] was dropped for the sake of realism - according to Sangster: "I thought that the idea of being able to change into a bat or a wolf or anything like that made the film seem more like a fairy tale than it needed to be. I tried to ground the script to some extent to reality."

Terence Fisher believed: "My greatest contribution to the Dracula myth was to bring out the underlying sexual element in the story. He [Dracula] is basically sexual. At the moment he bites it is the culmination of a sexual experience". According to Fisher “Dracula preyed upon the sexual frustrations of his woman victims. The (Holmwood) marriage was one in which she [Mina] was not sexually satisfied and that was her weakness as far as Dracula’s approach to her was concerned.“ In the scene where Mina returns after a night with Dracula, Fisher's directions to the actress were frank and unambiguous: "When she arrived back after having been away all night she said it all in one close-up at the door. She'd been done the whole night through, please! I remember Melissa [Stribling] saying 'Terry, how should I play the scene?' So I told her, 'Listen, you should imagine you have had one whale of a sexual night, the one of your whole sexual experience. Give me that in your face!'"

According to producer Anthony Hinds when it came to casting Dracula "it never occurred to any of us to use anyone else but Chris Lee". For his role in Horror of Dracula Lee earned £750. Speaking of filming and doing his take on the character, Lee recalled that he "tried to make the character all that he was in the book—heroic, romantic, erotic, fascinating, and dynamic."

Shooting began at Bray Studios on 11 November 1957. Principal photography came to an end on Christmas Eve 1957. Special effects work continued, with the film finally wrapping on 3 January 1958.

Release
The film received its world premiere in Milwaukee, Wisconsin in the United States on 8 May 1958 as Horror of Dracula. It played as a double feature with the Universal-International film The Thing That Couldn't Die. The film opened at the Gaumont Haymarket in London on 21 May 1958.

Critical reception
Dracula was well received by critics and fans of Stoker's works. The trade journal reviews from 1958 were very positive. Film Bulletin noted, "As produced by Anthony Hinds in somber mid-Victorian backgrounds... and directed by Terence Fisher with an immense flair for the blood-curdling shot, this Technicolor nightmare should prove a real treat. The James Bernard score is monumentally sinister and the Jack Asher photography full of foreboding atmosphere." Variety called Peter Cushing's performance impressive and wrote that the "serious approach to the macabre theme...adds up to lotsa tension and suspense."

Harrison's Reports was particularly enthusiastic: "Of all the 'Dracula' horror pictures thus far produced, this one, made in Britain and photographed in Technicolor, tops them all. Its shock impact is, in fact, so great that it may well be considered as one of the best horror films ever made. What makes this picture superior is the expert treatment that takes full advantage of the story's shock values."

Vincent Canby in Motion Picture Daily said, "Hammer Films, the same British production unit which last year restored Mary Shelley's Frankenstein to its rightful place in the screen's chamber of horrors, has now even more successfully brought back the granddaddy of all vampires, Count Dracula. It's chillingly realistic in detail (and at times as gory as the law allows). The physical production is first rate, including the settings, costumes, Eastman Color photography and special effects.".

The film holds an approval rating of 91% on Rotten Tomatoes based on 41 reviews, with an average rating of 7.75/10. The website's critical consensus states: "Trading gore for grandeur, Horror of Dracula marks an impressive turn for inveterate Christopher Lee as the titular vampire, and a typical Hammer mood that makes aristocracy quite sexy."

Box office
The film earned around $3.5 million in theatrical rentals worldwide. It had a record ten-day run in Milwaukee in its premiere engagement. It was one of the twelve most popular films at the British box office in 1958. It earned domestic rentals in North America of $1 million.

Home media
The film made its first appearance on DVD in 2002 in a U.S. stand-alone disc and was later re-released on 6 November 2007 in a film pack retitled as Horror of Dracula along with Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, Taste the Blood of Dracula, and Dracula A.D. 1972; which was part of Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema's "4 Film Favorites" line of DVDs. On 7 September 2010, Turner Classic Movies released the film in a four-pack along with Dracula Has Risen from the Grave, The Curse of Frankenstein and Frankenstein Must Be Destroyed. The film was released on DVD in the U.K. in October 2002 alongside The Curse of Frankenstein and The Mummy in a box-set entitled Hammer Horror Originals.

The film was digitally restored and re-released in the U.K. by the BFI in 2007. When the film was originally released in the U.K., the BBFC gave it an X rating, being cut, while the 2007 uncut re-release was given a 12A.

For many years, historians pointed to the fact that an even longer, more explicit, version of the film played in Japanese and European cinemas in 1958. Efforts to locate the legendary "Japanese version" of Dracula had been fruitless.

In September 2011, Hammer announced that part of the Japanese release had been found by writer and cartoonist Simon Rowson in the National Film Center at the National Museum of Modern Art, Tokyo. The first five reels of the film held by the center were destroyed in a fire in 1984, but the last four reels were recovered. The recovered reels include the last 36 minutes of the film and includes two extended scenes, one of which is the discovery of a nearly-complete version of the film's iconic disintegration scene. Some experts rightly note that there is still footage missing from the disintegration scene, as evidenced by stills and the memories of those who had seen the sequence decades before. The announcement mentioned a HD telecine transfer of all four reels with a view for a future U.K. release.

On 29 December 2012, Hammer announced that the restored film would be released on a three-disc, double play Blu-ray Disc set in the U.K. on 18 March 2013. This release contains the 2007 BFI restoration, along with the 2012 high-definition Hammer restoration, which includes footage which was previously believed to be lost. The set contains both Blu-ray Disc and DVD copies of the film, as well as several bonus documentaries covering the film's production, censorship and restoration processes.

The film was further digitally restored by the current domestic rights holder, Warner Bros. Pictures, in association with the BFI, for release in December 2018 on DVD and Blu-ray by the Warner Archive Collection. This version is different from 2002 and 2007 U.S. DVD releases, as the original Universal-International name and logo are restored and the opening credits bear the original Dracula title rather than Horror of Dracula. It also does not contain any of the additional footage that Hammer previously restored.

Sequels
After the success of Dracula, Hammer went on to produce eight sequels, six of which feature Lee reprising the titular role, and four of which feature Cushing reprising the role of Van Helsing.
 * The Brides of Dracula (1960)
 * Dracula: Prince of Darkness (1966)
 * Dracula Has Risen from the Grave (1968)
 * Taste the Blood of Dracula (1970)
 * Scars of Dracula (1970)
 * Dracula A.D. 1972 (1972)
 * The Satanic Rites of Dracula (1973)
 * The Legend of the 7 Golden Vampires (1974)

Comic book adaptation

 * The House of Hammer #1 (October 1976), adapted by Dez Skinn and Paul Neary.

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North Canberra

North Canberra, or the Inner North, is a subdivision of Canberra Central in the Australian Capital Territory in Australia. Comprising 14 suburbs. At the, it had 26,699 dwellings housing 61,188 people of the 453,324 people in the Australian Capital Territory. Many of Canberra's oldest dwellings are located on it.

North Canberra is separated from South Canberra by Lake Burley Griffin. The two subdivisions combined form the district of Canberra Central and share Civic as their central commercial area.

It is one of the oldest parts of Canberra and is built in part in accordance to Walter Burley Griffin's designs.

Places of note and interest

 * Civic is the major shopping and office precinct in Canberra.
 * Russell has the main headquarters of the Australian Defence Force.
 * The Australian National University has its campus in the suburb of Acton and the Australian Defence Force Academy and Royal Military College, Duntroon are in the suburb of Campbell.
 * The Australian War Memorial is also located in Campbell.

Demographics
At the, North Canberra had a population of 61,188 of which 49.3% were male and 50.7% were female. Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people made up 1.4% of the population, which was lower than the national and territory averages. The median age of people in North Canberra was 31 years, which was lower than the national median of 38 years. Children aged 0–14 years made up 12.0% of the population and people aged 65 years and over made up 11.2% of the population. Of people in the area aged 15 years and over, 31.9% were married and 8.4% were either divorced or separated.

Population growth in North Canberra between the and the  was 6.8%; in the five years to the, the population grew by 14.1%; in the five years to the , the population grew by 10.4%; and in the five years to the , the population grew by 15.4%. When compared with total population growth of Australia for the same periods, being 5.8%, 8.3%, 8.8% and 8.6% respectively, population growth in North Canberra was faster than the national average. The median weekly income for residents within North Canberra in 2021 was significantly higher than the national average, and slightly below the territory average.

Representation
North Canberra is represented by:
 * ACT Legislative Assembly: The Australian Capital Territory (ACT) was granted self-government by the Commonwealth Parliament in 1988 with the passage of the Australian Capital Territory (Self-Government) Act 1988. The first Assembly was elected in 1989. There are currently 25 members of the Legislative Assembly (MLAs). Members are elected every four years by the people of the ACT to represent them and make decisions on their behalf.  The ACT Legislative Assembly has five multi-member electorates: Yerrabi; Ginninderra; Kurrajong; Murrumbidgee and; Brindabella, each electing five members.
 * North Canberra Community Council: North Canberra Community Council (NCCC) is recognised by the ACT Government as a peak community body representing the interests of the local residents, businesses and organisations within the Inner North region of Canberra with the ACT Government. The NCCC is not a local government.

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Salvia mohavensis

Salvia mohavensis (Mojave sage) is a species of sage endemic to the Mojave Desert. It is a low rounded shrub growing to 1 m tall with small opposite evergreen leaves 1.5–2 cm long, which are dark green or may appear nearly gray due to a covering of fine white hairs. The 2 cm long flowers are pale blue with protruding stamens, and occur in headlike whorls that occur singly at the tip of the stem. It blooms from April to June.

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Diabolus in musica

Diabolus in Musica can refer to:

Music

 * The musical interval of a tritone
 * Diabolus in Musica (ensemble) (1992–present) a French medieval ensemble
 * Diabulus in Musica, a Spanish symphonic metal band

Albums

 * Diabolus in Musica, a 1998 album by Slayer
 * Diabolus in Musica, Accardo interpreta Paganini, an album by Salvatore Accardo

Songs

 * "Diabulus in musica", a song by Mägo de Oz on their album Gaia II: La Voz Dormida, also released as a single

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User:Jengod/Nathan Clifford

Nathan Clifford (August 18, 1803–July 25, 1881) was an American statesman, diplomat and jurist.

Nathan Clifford was born of old Yankee stock in Rumney, New Hampshire to a farmer and his wife, the only son of seven children (His great-great-grandmother, Ann Smith, wife of Israel Clifford, was the accuser of Goody Cole.) He attended the public schools of that town, then the Haverhill Academy in New Hampshire, and finally the New Hampton Literary Institute. After teaching school for a time, he studied law in the offices of Josiah Quincy and was admitted to the bar in Maine in 1827, establishing his first practice in Newfield, Maine.

He served in the Maine House of Representatives from 1830 to 1834 and served as Speaker of that house the last two years. He was then Maine Attorney General from 1834 until 1838, when he was elected as a Democrat to the 26th and 27th Congresses, serving March 4, 1839 through March 3, 1843, and representing the Second and then the Third District. He was not a candidate for re-election in 1842.

In 1846, President James K. Polk appointed him 19th Attorney General of the United States. Clifford served in Polk's Cabinet from October 17, 1846, to March 17, 1848. Immediately after completing his service with the Justice Department he came the U.S. Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary to Mexico, serving from March 18, 1848 to September 6, 1849. It was through Clifford the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo was arranged with the Mexican government by which California became a part of the United States.

Following his service in the diplomatic corps, Clifford resumed the practice of law in Portland, Maine.

In 1858, James Buchanan appointed him an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. He was confirmed by a narrow margin of 26 votes to 23 in the Senate. Senators were hesitant about placing a pro-slavery Democrat on the Supreme Court. His specialties were commercial and maritime law, Mexican land grants, and procedure and practice. Though he rarely declared any legal philosophy about the Constitution, Justice Clifford believed in a sharp dividing line between federal and state authority. His major constitutional contribution may have been his dissent in Loan Association vs. Topeka (20 Wallace 655) in which he set aside "natural law," or any ground other than clear constitutional provision, from the court's reasoning in striking down legislative acts. Justice Clifford's opinions were comprehensive essays on law. They were cited as authorities by other courts. Justice Clifford wrote the opinion of the Supreme Court in 398 cases. He served the court for 23 years, beginning in January 28, 1858, and continuing until his death from the complications of a stroke.

Clifford was president of the electoral commission convened in 1877 to determine the outcome of the U.S. presidential election, 1876. Clifford voted for Samuel Tilden (a fellow Democrat), but Rutherford B. Hayes famously won by a single vote.

Clifford died in Cornish, Maine in 1881; he was interred in Evergreen Cemetery, in Portland, Maine.

Clifford's son William Henry Clifford was a successful lawyer and an unsuccessful candidate for the Maine state house; his grandson, another Nathan Clifford was also a lawyer and briefly a president of the Maine State Senator.

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Talk:Joe Frank

WABI vs WBAI
Is that really WABI, not WBAI? -- Jmabel 06:14, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

 * You're right. Fixed. ElBenevolente 06:17, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the wiki link
I can't believe it. It was just yesterday that I even registered www.jfwiki.org and already some kind soul has linked to it. How cool is wikipedia?!!! 4.16.122.172 01:08, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC) (spblat)

Article
Joe Frank is worthy of a much better article! I hope to be able to contribute something to that in the future. Stephenjh 19:28, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Even if one doesn't much care for the actual body of work, it is unique enough, and long-running enough, that it deserves a more thorough discussion of how the shows stand apart from the usual fare.

Perhaps it would make sense to list the shows, or the more popular ones, along the right side of the page, as is done with actors or musicians? That would allow wiki readers to link directly to the shows, and produce separate articles for them. Just a thought. C d h 03:32, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Plagiarized
Almost all of this text is copied verbatim from Frank's bio page on his official website: http://www.joefrank.com/joebio.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.10.50 (talk • contribs) 02:21, May 27, 2007

 * Wikipedia's copyright violation policy is quite clear. I'll do what I can to remove the offending text.  --GargoyleMT 13:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

 * I think this is a false alarm. See Wikipedia's revision as of December 2, 2004, and compare it to the Internet Archive's version as of November 19, 2004 or December 7, 2004.  The point where JoeFrank.com changed over to be like the article is March 6, 2005.  I'll post on the copyright problems board, and see if others reach the same conclusion as I do.  --GargoyleMT 13:58, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I agree. --Alvestrand 18:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Me too. I examined this at the time and came to that conclusion. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 22:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Thanks for looking into it, gentlemen. --GargoyleMT 21:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Major Overhaul
I just did a major overhaul to the page. Did as much as I could - feel free to jump in. Things I think the page could use:

 * It would be great if we could get some kind of open licensed image if anyone has anything.
 * Confirmed birthdate - I have an estimated year right now.
 * More Frank inspired artists if you know of any
 * Pretty sure I got all the awards organized correctly?

Anyway, it's much more complete than before! --Dronthego (talk) 06:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Joe Frank's date of birth
The text has 1938 twice, the 'vitals' box has 1942.

The 'LA Weekly's 1997 article, 'Joe Frank is off the air', http://www.joefrank.com/newsarch/LAW97.html, says his family emigrated with him in 1939, as does 'Salon's article of 2000 March 7 by Susan Emerling, http://www.joefrank.com/newsarch/salon00.html.

Whatever you decide, you should at least have the same year everywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RussellBell (talk • contribs) 05:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

The government of Strasbourg sent me an 'extrait' of Joseph Langermann's (Joe's name at birth) 'acte de naissance' (birth certificate), all a non-relative can request. It says he was born at 9:30 AM 1938 August 19. RussellBell (talk) 23:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No Joe Frank Discography on WP?
Would a comprehensive listing of all his monologues be appropriate? It's all on his web page joefrank.com and on the Joe Frank FAQ, but oddly, it's not really organized in any easily readable format. I would think any poet or writer would have his works listed, and so the same would be appropriate for Frank. --Petzl (talk) 02:51, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Updating References section to new Peabody Awards homepage
I noticed the link under References which was meant to take the user to a search page for past Peabody Award winners was outdated. I believe this is the current home for such searches http://peabodyawards.com/past-winners/peabody-search/ but I couldn't figure out how to edit the reference in the Article page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.98.252.35 (talk) 04:49, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

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After Hours allegations
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COI tag (September 2022)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commons_talk:Abuse_filter&diff=prev&oldid=687680001  — Jeff G. ツ 12:08, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Joe's kidney donor
I find no evidence of second cousins in the US. 3 first cousins got out of Europe before the war, courtesy of Joe's father, and a fourth was born in the US. I suspect it was really a first cousin, once removed (people make this mistake), a child of one of his first cousins. A second cousin would have been of a similar age, old to be a donor.RussellBell (talk) 20:48, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Joe Frank and WNYC
For many years WNYC-AM (810am) broadcast Joe's work every Sunday night from 11-midnight. This stopped a couple of years before he died.

Please, someone, update the wiki page. karmester 23:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC) karmester 23:45, 24 November 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karmester (talk • contribs)

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Talk:Information retrieval

Huge gaps in article
This article is missing major concepts. For example, there is no mention of page rank (!) or the receiver operating characteristic in evaluation, or multimedia IR. I agree precision/recall -- ROC -- evaluation might do better in a separate page. 67.101.41.94 (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

A very major issue of this article is the fact that the second half of information retrieval is completely ignored: navigation (or browsing). A huge number of IR studies even show that navigation is by far the more important retrieval method. As a hybrid method, faceted search/navigation is also missing. Information retrieval is not the same as search! Novoid (talk) 16:09, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

If you look at the study of information retrieval (e.g., conferences like the ACM Special Interest Group on Information Retrieval), you'll see that navigation and browsing don't get that much attention. I happen to be passionate about Human–computer information retrieval myself, but I think the content in this entry is fairly representative of the field. There are gaps, but I wouldn't call them huge. Dtunkelang (talk) 13:32, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Break IR down into subfields
One thing I missed when I read this article was that information retrieval was not broken down into smaller subfields. It might be helpful to break this field down when developing the article further.

Nybbles 10:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

 * I don't think there subfields in IR. They are more likely called tasks. i⋅am⋅amz3 (talk) 01:25, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Glimpse / Webglimpse
They are listed in open-source IR systems but according to their respective websites, their licenses do not seem to be open-source anymore. I don't know if they were open-source or not in the past, so I didn't remove them. Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject could take care of the issue ? --Lastrainson 09:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

New article request
Hi there, I'd like to suggest a new article on the full history of information handling/management/techonology (details). I'm not knowledgeable enough to do it myself, but contributors here probably are. Thanks, JackyR | Talk 18:04, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Information scent
Also add an article about information scent, as also noted on information foraging. Jidanni (talk) 18:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Term Discrimination
I am going to start a new page on TermDiscrimination. I am a noob, so can some one give me some pointers on how to get this article linked to? Dspattison (talk) 18:29, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

 * That article is stub. My take on this is to merge FTS, concept search and that article into IR article under a section that would be called "Approaches" i⋅am⋅amz3 (talk) 01:03, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

ASIS&T Award of Merit
The ASIS&T Award of Merit, established in 1964 by the Delaware Valley Chapter, is now the Society's highest honor, bestowed annually to an individual who has made a noteworthy contribution to the field of information science, including the expression of new ideas, the creation of new devices, the development of better techniques and outstanding service to the profession of information science. The Award of Merit is sponsored directory by the Society.

Past recipients of the Award of Merit:

 * 2008 	Clifford Lynch
 * 2007 	Donald H. Kraft
 * 2006 	Blaise Cronin, ARIST editor, Indiana University
 * 2005 	Marcia Bates
 * 2004 	Howard D. White
 * 2003 	Nicholas J. Belkin
 * 2002 	Karen Sparck Jones
 * 2001 	Patrick G. Wilson
 * 2000 	Donald R. Swanson
 * 1999 	Jose Marie Griffiths
 * 1998 	Henry Small
 * 1997 	Dagobert Soergel
 * 1996 	Jean Tague-Sutcliffe
 * 1995 	Tefko Saracevic
 * 1994 	Harold Borko
 * 1993 	Robert M. Hayes
 * 1992 	Robert S. Taylor
 * 1991 	Roger K. Summit
 * 1990 	P. Atherton Cochrane
 * 1989 	Gerard Salton
 * 1988 	F. Wilfrid Lancaster
 * 1987 	Donald W. King
 * 1986 	Bernard M. Fry
 * 1985 	Robert L. Chartrand
 * 1984 	Joseph D. Becker
 * 1983 	Dale B. Baker
 * 1982 	Andrew A. Aines
 * 1981 	Herbert S. White
 * 1980 	Claire K. Schultz
 * 1979 	Frederick Kilgour
 * 1978 	Calvin N. Mooers
 * 1977 	Allen Kent
 * 1976 	Laurence Heilprin
 * 1975 	Eugene Garfield
 * 1974 	Manfred Kochen
 * 1973 	Jesse H. Shera
 * 1972 	Phyllis Richmond
 * 1971 	Jerold Orne
 * 1970 	Cyril W. Cleverdon
 * 1968 	Carlos A. Cuadra
 * 1967 	Robert Fairthorne
 * 1966 	Mortimer Taube
 * 1965 	Charles P. Bourne
 * 1964 	Hans Peter Luhn

Cited by --KYPark (talk) 19:22, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Major figures

 * Thomas Bayes
 * Claude E. Shannon
 * Gerard Salton
 * Hans Peter Luhn
 * W. Bruce Croft - Cambridge
 * Karen Spärck Jones - Cambridge
 * C. J. van Rijsbergen - Cambridge
 * Stephen E. Robertson - Cambridge
 * Martin Porter - Cambridge

 * My comment

The first two, Bayes and Shannon, were not contributing to information retrieval (hence rather irrelevant) but statistical inference in general.

The next two, Luhn and Salton, were frontal, computational and experimental, helplessly suffering from lack of decent relevant IR theories.

The rest are Cambridge alumni or affiliates. They were especially keen on statistical approaches, which make up a part of what IR is all about as an average science.

The keyword web and the citation web are the two driving wheels of IR, not to mention any information search or research as well as (esp. new) encyclopedism. Hence the pivotal role of hypertext in principle and practice, around which a variety of statistical and computational methods may center. Frankly, the major figures, as biased as above, have little to do with such a central role obvious since late 1970s. --KYPark (talk) 21:21, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Question answering
The question answering article begins "In information retrieval, question answering (QA) is the task of automatically answering a question posed in natural language." Yet there is no mention of question answering in this article. pgr94 (talk) 17:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

 * My understanding is that boolean keyword search, Full-text search and Concept search and Question answering are on a continuum that is in the field of IR. This includes technics dialog / exploratory technics explained in Human–computer information retrieval. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamamz3 (talk • contribs) 00:59, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

Graphic Help
There's a little mistake in adaptation of Kuropka's categorization. It should be "Binary Independence", instead of "Binary Interdependence". I don't know how to edit this part (I'm pretty new to this and it's a graphic). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.147.82 (talk) 02:42, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Merger proposal
I propose that Webometrics be merged into this article, or one of its peers which tackles Web specific information retrieval metrics.

The article seems slim to me. It seems poorly referenced, with many researchers appearing in more than one reference at the same time. Most of the see-also links seem to be supporting the article, rather than leading to more information. The article also appears to link only to the kinds of other articles, which I now gather it should be merged into. Its prime content also has to do with "web impact", which is a form of information retrieval metric; an "impact factor".

As such, please consider Webometrics for merge into this article, and others near it, as the case may be. Decoy (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

 * Hi, Webometrics is much more related to bibliometrics. Information retrieval is the posh academic term for search engines, webometrics is more about rating an organization based on web link structures pointing to the organization's web site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.161.6.1 (talk) 11:25, 4 June 2015 (UTC)

 * As I commented on Talk:Webometrics, certainly Webometrics can be used as a technique in information retrieval, in addition for general research or other purposes. But the content of that article is not suitable for a general overview of information retrieval, especially given that it is specific to the World Wide Web and is at most about one class of techniques.  Certainly even if it was mentioned in the main information retrieval article it would also need its own page with a more detailed explanation.  I added Webometrics to Category:Information retrieval techniques and removed the merge tag.  There are plenty more references which could be used to improve Webometrics as a standalone article. -- Beland (talk) 16:42, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Deletion nomination for Gain (information retrieval)
The article Gain (information retrieval) has been nominated for deletion at Articles for deletion/Gain (information retrieval). As no one has yet commented on the nomination, I'm posting this message here in hopes of attracting editors familiar with the subject matter. —Psychonaut (talk) 08:47, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

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Focus is too narrow
I think this aspect could do with more fleshing out, with regard to the processes involved and as subtopic of library or information science. The article seems to be heavily focussed on how and what computers do, rather than the principles and key elements behind making the information retrievable. I'm just going to add a source in Further reading for now, as a starting point for further expansion. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 08:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Reference Zhu, Mu (2004). "Recall, Precision and Average Precision" outdated
It seemed difficult to find the reference mentioned above (which is unfortunate, as the equation referencing it is in turn referenced by scikit-learn, a commonly used implementation). According to Mr. Zhu,

If you are looking for an early working paper, "Recall, Precision, and Average Precision", cited by an article on "Information Retrieval" from Wikipedia, please refer to and/or cite this published paper instead.

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Talk:Lenora Fulani

Untitled
Just thought I'd weigh in because this was a recent anonymous contribution at some length: I'm familiar with Fulani, and at a quick read this looks basically on the mark. -- Jmabel 06:23, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

Removal explanation
The heading is /*Early Life*/ and yet it appears the introductory POV is attempting to bring a negative impression of Ms. Fulani, specifically by going on a tangent of Mr. Newman, Mr. LaRouche, and Social Therapy. I proposed cleaning this up a bit so it's more NPOV. Thanks

 * Sorry, it's completely relevant, as it goes to the core of Fulani's political involvement. And you need to read NPOV policy if you think this violates it. All of what you are removing are well-established facts, presenting in an objective and even-handed manner. RadicalSubversiv E 20:24, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Follow-up

 * I must disagree. I see a repeat of the unproven slander put out by her political enemies. Addionally, the "core" of Fulani's political movement is subject to interpretation, and I see her as a positive influence in the development an independent political movement.

 * Mr. D--Mr D 03:48, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * You're free to believe whatever you want about Fulani. You're not free to remove facts from Wikipedia articles. If you can provide reasonable evidence that casts this information into doubt, you can add that. If you think the phrasing or presentation is in some way inaccurate or violates Neutral point of view, that's up for discussion. But removing material outright because you think it portrays Fulani in an unflattering light is unacceptable, and will continue to be reverted. RadicalSubversiv E 04:06, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Competing introductions
Moved here from the article:

 * Admirer's Introduction

 * Dr. Fulani's political career is very closely connected with her mentor Fred Newman, a controversial psychotherapist and political activist. They met in the late '70s and have worked together as political partners on various projects. Dr. Fulani ran for President in 1988 and 1992, and was the first woman and first black candidate to obtain ballot access in all 50 states.  Her court cases challenging state ballot access laws were instrumental in laying the groudwork for subsequent independent campaigns, most notably Ross Perot in 1992.  She helped build the New York Independence Party, the third largest political party in New York State with 225,000 registered members as of 2004. Dr. Fulani and the New York Independence Party is credited with providing Republican Mayor Michael Bloomberg his margin of victory over Democrat candidate Mark J. Green. Her top political concerns include political oppression of black people, the abuses of the Democratic and Republican Party, and racial equality and gay rights.

On Wikipedia, we strive to accurately characterize information by using a single neutral point of view, which is arrived at through cooperation, not by simply adding our own individual points-of-view to articles we dislike. You might be interested in Wikinfo, a similar project which exists to present multiple POV versions of the same article. RadicalSubversiv E 22:02, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Follow up on Competing Introductions
The problem is your point of view is not neutral by any defination of the word -- your entries have a political axe to grind, therefore biased, and violate the spirit of NPOV. Additionally -- you don't own the "truth" about Fulani and there are many sides to her story; one of which the wild slander attacks are a reaction to her effectiveness as a 3rd party builder. I offer a perspective that balances out your presentation of Dr. Fulani, et al and brings this Wikipedia entry closer to NPOV. So what do you want to do now? I'm not going away to Wikiinfo. --Mr D 22:48, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * First, they're not "my entries"; I hadn't made a single edit to this article until you arrived. All I have done is restore material that you removed, and removed your alternate version, which violates policy. Secondly, NPOV is not about the motivations of the contributors -- it is about whether the material is accurate and presented in a neutral manner. You are correct that there are many sides to a story; our role is to present facts as facts and opinions as opinions. If you have facts you want to add, preferably along with citations, feel free to do that. If there are things stated as facts in the article you believe not to be true, provide evidence.

 * If you want to present the opinions of Fulani's followers, you are also free to do that, provided that they are stated as such. For example, you might write, "In the eyes of her supporters, Fulani is an effective 3rd party builder," which might then be balanced with something like "Meanwhile, her critics contend ...". It's even better if you can provide specific ciations.

 * RadicalSubversiv E 23:15, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)

That's helpful, thanks.

Question. How does my alternate introduction for Fulani violate policy, and your entry of "anti-newman" external link (on the Fred Newman page) in accordance with policy? --Mr D 13:32, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Sorry for not responding to this sooner, I've been tied up with another matter. Your alternate introduction violates policy on two fronts. First, your text is not NPOV. Second, as I tried to explain above, Wikipedia articles are to be written as a single, coherent, NPOV article, not to branch off into competing versions.
 * As to the Newman link, Wikipedia articles may link to a wide variety of outside sources of varying POVs -- the general notion is to get a good, representative sampling of all sides of an issue. You'll see this on lots of articles about controversial subjects. RadicalSubversiv E 13:28, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Having come here because of the RfC, I've made some edits to the article, but generally I'd consider it OK. I agree with RadicalSubversiv E that the "admirer's" lead section is not acceptable.  The point about the numbers in the 2001 mayoral election is correct, however, so I'll add that (although not in the lead -- it's not that important because the odds are that Bloomberg would have won anyway). JamesMLane 09:15, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Independence Party
I've created an article on the Independence Party of New York. Either that article or this one would benefit from more information about the Fulani "takeover" of the party. I don't know all the details, but I gather that the Fulani faction, although it failed to deny Golisano the 2002 nomination, has now decisively ousted the Golisano faction and the other people who were involved in the party's founding. There's a website at that reflects the Reform Party/Perot orientation, but it also says: "This site is no longer the 'official' site of the Independence Party. We are not aware of an official web site at this time." It seems like a reasonable speculation that the Fulani faction took over and de-certified (or whatever you'd call it) the old website, but that's just a guess. JamesMLane 00:57, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)

New text
Jmabel's done a good job, as usual, at coming up with reasonably accurate and NPOV language. I have two relatively minor concerns:

 * "She stands out from other prominent African American political figures by having remained independent of the two major parties." This borders on POV, and I don't think it serves any major informative purpose. Certainly there have been plenty of other black political leaders who've been active in independent and third-party efforts (Angela Davis, Eldridge Cleaver, Cornel West, Mel King, etc.). Also, the implication that Fulani is prominent is somewhat dubious.

 * I think the CUIP can safely be described as Fulani's organization, rather than merely one with which she is affiliated.

RadicalSubversiv E

 * I would not object to either of the changes implied by your remarks, edit away. -- Jmabel | Talk 16:48, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

 * At the beginning of the section on Fulani's electoral activities, I removed the sentence about her being on the ballot in all 50 states, because this merely repeated what was already said in the introduction. Also I removed the adjective about Fulani's "post-graduate" training at the New York Institute for Social Therapy and merely described it as training. Fulani is a developmental psychologist and the institute did not offer development psychology post-graduate work. Furthermore, it was not an accredited institution of higher education and was not even recognized as an educational entity by the NYS Board of Regents at that time. Fulani may very well have obtained legitimate post-graduate training in development psych somewhere else, and if so that fact should be added to this article. The rest of the changes or additions are pretty much self-explanatory.--November 23, 2005.

Ballot access
This edit, from an anon IP with no previous edits asserts that her claim of having been on the ballot in all 50 states is false. Since it cites no source and gives no indication of what state's ballot she may not have made, I don't know quite what to do with it. I've tried to contact the IP, but under the circumstances, the odds aren't very good. If no one responds in the next day or so, and if we don't find an independent source, I think we should restore the prior statement, but with citation of this being a claim on her own site or that of an organization to which she is tied. - Jmabel | Talk 06:19, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Having gotten no response, and having found confirmation of the claim from a source hostile to Fulani as well, I've restored, with citation. - Jmabel | Talk 01:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 * There's three different questions involved: (1) was she on the ballot in all 50 states, and if so was she the (2) first woman and (3) first african american to do so. I don't know.  I think it's OK with the citation as now, but if I find a better source to conform or deny it, I'll make the edit. Schizombie 02:22, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Fulani and the psychology of Fred Newman
I tightened up the description of Newman's psychological ideas. Yes, he did advocate a "dictatorship of the proletarian ego," not just a "proletarian ego," in Power and Authority, so why sanitize it? The idea that this sophomoric stuff constitutes a "classical Marx/Freud synthesis" is absurd and I removed this phrase. (It should be noted that the chief authority cited in the introduction to Power and Authority was Lyndon LaRouche rather than Freud or Marx.) I also altered the phrasing that seemed to take seriously Newman's claim to the mantles of Vygotsky and Wittgenstein. Newman is not a serious academic nor is he a real psychologist. He has no training in psychological research methods (unlike Vygotsky) and has never done any research in the field of developmental psychology that he pontificates about. His "theories" about therapy include the assertion that having sex with one's patients is beneficial to their health. Anyone who bothers to peruse his self-published non-peer-reviewed books such as Let's Develop can see that this is not a serious person. He is a classic narcissistic sect leader whose "ideas" revolve around how to manipulate his followers, including Fulani. - 13 March 2005

 * Great work by both anons who recently contributed to this. Really strengthens the article. Please, open accounts so people can more easily communicate with you and so that your various contributions can be related to one another. - Jmabel | Talk 19:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The March 13 author obviously is not expressing an NPOV approach to Newman (who is not the subject of this entry in any case). Newman does not "claim to the mantles of Vygotsky and Wittgenstein," but to deny that the approach does indeed incorporate these authors is simply inaccurate. If the manner in which their work is incorporated is in question, then that should be discussed, and references, perhaps, to how it is misued from other scholars in the field would be appropriate, rather than a diatribe without substance. I will not challenge "purported" at this time, although was simply inserted there for no other reason than malice. Within the sub-field of Vygotsky scholars, Newman, and in particular his associate Lois Holzman, are recognized as important contributors and practioners. As to March 13's claim that Newman's theory includes "the assertion that having sex with one's patients is beneficial to their health," this seems flagrantly false (reference?) and indicative of the rather angry and biased tone of March 13's notes. [UNDATED] REPLY: March 13 put her or his personal POV in the discussion section, not the article. -- 21 March 2006

1988 running mate
This Alaskan page gives her running mate as "Burke" http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:_8EMDKy_3IYJ:www.gov.state.ak.us/ltgov/elections/partysta.htm I had thought her running mate was Joyce Dattner. Did she have more than one running mate in 1988? Esquizombi 10:50, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Fulani had different running mates in different states in 1988. There were at least three of these Veep candidates, and may have been more. The information for researching and correcting the sentence about this can probably be founded in the web archive at. -- 16 March 2006

This page: http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/1999-08-11/music4_2.html says Dattner was one of six VP candidates in 1988. This article http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/talking_politics/documents/03521598.asp says the same thing, with Dattner herself saying "I was actually one of her vice-presidential candidates in 1988."
 * 1) Joyce Dattner: AL, FL, IA, MD, NV, NY, OH
 * 2) ? Burke: AK
 * 3) ? Harold Moore: OR
 * 4) B. Kwaku Duren: CA ,

Here http://www.aimovement.org/moipr/LaDukeNader.html WaBun-Inini AKA Vernon Bellecourt states "In 1988, I supported Dr. Lenora Fulani who was on the ballot in all 50 states, and she had asked me to be her vice-president running mate. While I declined the offer, I worked nationwide for her candidacy as she was raising important issues affecting Indian people, as well as other Americans. I was strongly criticized by many of the progressives and liberals across the county for supporting her." Esquizombi 15:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Additional edits/restructuring
Edits have been made to give a bit more of a coherent structure. Superfluous overemphasis on Fred Newman has been edited to hopefully more apporpirate amounts. The heading Electoral Politics and the Politics of Personality changed to simply "Electoral Politics." I have no idea what the previous heading means, and there appears to be nothing in the literature on Fulani, nor in this article as written, that elaborates on that title, which simply seems inserted for its negative sounding non-NPOV language. BabyDweezil 17:45, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Dennis--Article reverted to previous for the same reasons stated above. Wikipedia is not your own private forum for acting out your hostility to Fred Newman, nor a repsoitory for the allegations laid out on your own website that you seem to not be able to find a legitimate publisher for. referred to mediation. BabyDweezil 02:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Dennis King on Wikipedia monitors
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Now it's Fulani too Posted: 2006-09-26 18:21:00

''BabyDweezil (see above) has removed a huge chunk of the Wikipedia bio of Fulani, including the quote from the New York Times circa 2000 in which Fulani defended Fred's ideas on patient-therapist sex. The Bank Street family seems desperate to get ANY mention of patient-therapist sex or Fred living with his "former" patients removed from the web. They even solicited a Wikipedia monitor of some kind (any high school kid can sign up and call themselves that and get an intimidating little official page that means about as much as Sponge Bob's "hall monitor" title) to post a message that Rita Nissan's series could no longer be cited in the Fred Newman article because it is not properly sourced (or something like that).

''Why all these transparent hand-in-the-cookie jar tricks at this particular moment although Fred didn't pay much attention to Wikipedia in the past? It might be that some of his Wall Street and celebrity supporters are worried about their friends and colleagues outside the cult googling Newman and Fulani (Wikipedia is just about the first thing that pops up) and thus are beginning to insist that Fred take steps to build a shield around their reputations, or else.''

thanks for clarifying, Dennis BabyDweezil 02:42, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Dennis--the section you claim I deleted, which begins "In a July 2000 New York Times interview, Fulani addressed..." was never removed by me, or anyone since its insertion, as the history clearly shows. A maliciously false claim about what takes place on this site is still a maliciously false claim, even if you post it on another site. BabyDweezil 05:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Minor edit
NYC mayoral election was Nov 8, 2005, hence previous version was correct; reverted. Description and reference to relevant APA guidelines being challenged by Nemwan added and sourced. BabyDweezil 18:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

You're right about Nov. 8. My mistake.DimensionX 00:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Jmabel--I reworded the sentence that you indicated as needing a citation. I have no reference; it is extrapolated from the existing public record. If this is inappropriate, please clarify the reason why. I would have no problem with its deletion if there is no way to make the statement without a citation that still falls within Wiki guidelines. BabyDweezil 01:24, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Page being made POV by advocates
This page, along with Fred Newman, and Social Therapy, is being made POV by advocates who are systematically removing most of the critical material. Help is needed to assure that this and the other pages are restored to NPOV status.--Cberlet 00:59, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Page being made less POV by editors?
Flipping through the history, I see no critical material being removed, systematically or otherwise. As one of the editors, I have made a modest effort to try to improve a page with a pre-existing, heavily POV character, correct some factual errors, and add information where appropriate. I agree with the above that help is needed, however, to have the article achieve NPOV status, not "restore" it to any such previous non-existent state as erroneously claimed above. BabyDweezil 18:58, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

Some edits; previous editor--please explain deletions
Some minor info sourced to www.ex-iwp.org, a primary source, removed. Consolidated info from previous editor. It appears the unexplained deletion of material was meant to bring the bio up to date re Ms Fulani's current position at the All Stars, her syndicated column etc? Would be helpful if previous editor can confirm. There also appear to be some BLP issues which I will work on a bit BabyDweezil 01:09, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Some of the BLP and negaive POV issues addressed. Section on FEC removed, as presented had a clear implication of criminal activity, which is both untrue and a strongly negative POV presentation. BabyDweezil 01:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Attempts to delete critical comments on this page by participants in an ongoing discussion are not appropriate until the discussion under mediation at Fred Newman is resolved.--Cberlet 01:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

These aren't "critical comments" but biased, POV, selective insertion of material that implies criminal activity, which is demonstrably false. Reverted per BLP. BabyDweezil 03:58, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Links restored
Sorry Baby, but your statement "sites critical of social therapy" links removed--this is a BLP entry--no symmetry with article” is false for the following reasons: Lenora Fulani’s page states “Fulani's career has worked closely since 1980 with Fred Newman, a New York-based psychotherapist, political activist, and philosopher who has often served as her campaign manager and chief tactician for her numerous independent electoral campaigns. Social Therapy was first developed in the 1970s by Newman, who founded the New York Institute for Social therapy in 1977. Along with fellow psychologist Lois Holzman, Fulani has worked for the past 15 years to incorporate the social therapeutic approach to learning and development into a variety of youth-oriented programs and educational settings, most notably the New York City-based All Stars Project, which she co-founded in 1981. She currently serves in a volunteer capacity as an advisor to the program.” Therefore, the properly cited links which are critical of Social Therapy absolutely belong here. Links restored. GrownUpAndWise 22:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Commercial websites removed from external links
The freedomofmind and Rick Ross commercial websites have been removed from EL. These sites exist largely to sell the "services" of these self proclaimed experts and are simply commercial competitors of social therapy. They have no position on Lenora Fulani and have never have published nothing about her. They use cult baiting scare tactics simply to attract suckers for their quack services. Whatever archive material they have is duplicated on the other sites. Per WP:EL removed. BabyDweezil 16:05, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Chip Berlet
WP:BLP: Self-published books, zines, websites, and blogs should never be used as a source for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article. --Ravelhave (talk) 23:55, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Which source is self-published? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 01:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know is it's self published or not, although it is certainly a rather long section self inserted by the author of the source used. My question is how does this constitute criticism of Lenora Fulani? It seems largely a a criticism of Newman, and WP:BLP does say "Beware of claims that rely on guilt by association, which seems to me what this section ultimately is. I recommend removal since it seems to be just a personal grudge rant followed by a personal counter rant in response. If there is criticism of the form "X criticized Fulani's view/statement/actions in x publication, that would seem more appropriate. Boodlesthecat (talk) 17:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Which source are you referring to? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 20:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The "Criticism" section was added by cberlet and from what I can find searching the phrase "I mean no harm to these powerful Black women, Emily Carter, Lenora Fulani and Barbara Taylor..." it sources back to online text authored by Berlet himself here. But this is peripheral to my concern that this is guilt by association criticism and not conventional criticism of the subjects ideas, actions etc. Boodlesthecat (talk) 20:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Check the footnote, it tracks back to what a colleague of Fulani said about her and her organization.--Cberlet (talk) 01:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Too much journalistic material
Everything does not have to be covered; there is too much detail about the vagaries of politics and psychotherapy.--Parkwells (talk) 22:42, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Electoral politics
This section is too long, dealing in too much detail with NY politics.--Parkwells (talk) 12:24, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

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