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Kadesh (biblical)

Kadesh or Qadesh or Cades (in classical Hebrew קָדֵשׁ, from the root "holy" ) is a place-name that occurs several times in the Hebrew Bible, describing a site or sites located south of, or at the southern border of, Canaan and the Kingdom of Judah in the kingdom of Israel. Many modern academics hold that it was a single site, located at the modern Tel el-Qudeirat, while some academics and rabbinical authorities hold that there were two locations named Kadesh. A related term, either synonymous with Kadesh or referring to one of the two sites, is Kadesh (or Qadesh) Barnea. Various etymologies for Barnea have been proposed, including 'desert of wanderings,' but none have produced widespread agreement.

The Bible mentions Kadesh and/or Kadesh Barnea in a number of episodes, making it an important site (or sites) in narratives concerning Israelite origins. Kadesh was the chief site of encampment for the Israelites during their wandering in the Zin Desert (Deuteronomy 1:46), as well as the place from which the Israelite spies were sent to Canaan (Numbers 13:1–26). The first failed attempt to capture Canaan was made from Kadesh. Moses struck a rock (rather than speaking to it as the Lord commanded) that brought forth water at Kadesh. Miriam and Aaron  both died and were buried near a place named Kadesh. Moses sent envoys to the King of Edom from Kadesh, asking for permission to let the Israelites use the King's Highway passing through his territory, which the Edomite king denied.

Kadesh Barnea is a key feature in the common biblical formula delineating the southern border of the Land of Israel (cf., , etc.) and thus its identification is key to understanding both the ideal and geopolitically realised borders of ancient Israel.

Biblical references

 * "And they turned back, and came to En-mishpat--the same is Kadesh--and smote all the country of the Amalekites, and also the Amorites, that dwelt in Hazazon-tamar."
 * "Wherefore the well was called 'Beer-lahai-roi; behold, it is between Kadesh and Bered."
 * "And Abraham journeyed from thence toward the land of the South, and dwelt between Kadesh and Shur; and he sojourned in Gerar."
 * "And they went and came to Moses, and to Aaron, and to all the congregation of the children of Israel, unto the wilderness of Paran, to Kadesh; and brought back word unto them, and unto all the congregation, and showed them the fruit of the land."
 * "And the children of Israel, even the whole congregation, came into the wilderness of Zin in the first month; and the people abode in Kadesh; and Miriam died there, and was buried there."
 * "And Moses sent messengers from Kadesh unto the king of Edom: 'Thus saith thy brother Israel: Thou knowest all the travail that hath befallen us; how our fathers went down into Egypt, and we dwelt in Egypt a long time; and the Egyptians dealt ill with us, and our fathers; and when we cried unto the LORD, He heard our voice, and sent a messenger, and brought us forth out of Egypt; and, behold, we are in Kadesh, a city in the uttermost of thy border."
 * "And they journeyed from Kadesh; and the children of Israel, even the whole congregation, came unto mount Hor."
 * "And when thou hast seen it, thou also shalt be gathered unto thy people, as Aaron thy brother was gathered; because ye rebelled against My commandment in the wilderness of Zin, in the strife of the congregation, to sanctify Me at the waters before their eyes.'--These are the waters of Meribath-kadesh in the wilderness of Zin."
 * "And they journeyed from Ezion-geber, and pitched in the wilderness of Zin--the same is Kadesh. And they journeyed from Kadesh, and pitched in mount Hor, in the edge of the land of Edom."
 * "So ye abode in Kadesh many days, according unto the days that ye abode there."
 * "Because ye trespassed against Me in the midst of the children of Israel at the waters of Meribath-kadesh, in the wilderness of Zin; because ye sanctified Me not in the midst of the children of Israel."
 * "But when they came up from Egypt, and Israel walked through the wilderness unto the Red Sea, and came to Kadesh; then Israel sent messengers unto the king of Edom, saying: Let me, I pray thee, pass through thy land; but the king of Edom hearkened not. And in like manner he sent unto the king of Moab; but he would not; and Israel abode in Kadesh."
 * "The voice of the LORD shaketh the wilderness; the LORD shaketh the wilderness of Kadesh."
 * "And the south side southward shall be from Tamar as far as the waters of Meriboth-kadesh, to the Brook, unto the Great Sea. This is the south side southward."
 * "And by the border of Gad, at the south side southward, the border shall be even from Tamar unto the waters of Meribath-kadesh, to the Brook, unto the Great Sea."

Location
The most common identification of Kadesh or Kadesh Barnea in modern scholarship is with the present-day Tell el-Qudeirat, with most contemporary scholars seeing the biblical references to Kadesh as referring to a single site.

The Bible locates Kadesh, or Kadesh Barnea, as an oasis south of Canaan, west of the Aravah and east of the Brook of Egypt. It is 11 days' march by way of Mount Seir from Horeb (Deuteronomy 1:2).

By the late nineteenth century, as many as eighteen sites had been proposed for biblical Kadesh. One source of confusion has been the fact that Kadesh is sometimes mentioned in connection with the Desert of Paran (Numbers 13:26) and at other times with the Zin Desert (Numbers 20:1). This discrepancy has been noted by commentators as early as the Middle Ages. Some (e.g., Hezekiah ben Manoah) sought a reconciliatory model, while others (Abraham ibn Ezra and Nahmanides) proposed two separate sites named Kadesh.

A minority of recent scholars have continued to maintain a two-site theory, with a western Kadesh in the wilderness of Zin, and an eastern Kadesh in the wilderness of Paran, the latter often associated with Petra, Jordan. The two-site theory also appears to have been held by Josephus and Eusebius of Caesarea. Josephus identifies Miriam's burial site (which the Bible identifies as Kadesh) with Petra, which he called Rekem.

After a period in which researchers identified Kadesh with the similarly named Ein Qedeis, since 1905 modern Ain-el-Qudeirat in Wadi el-Ain of northern Sinai has been widely accepted as the location of Kadesh Barnea. Several Iron Age fortresses have been excavated there. The oldest, a small elliptical structure, dates to the tenth century BCE, and was abandoned for some time after its first destruction. A second fort, constructed during the eighth century BCE (probably during the reign of Uzziah) was destroyed during the seventh century BCE, most likely during Manasseh of Judah's reign. Two ostraca engraved in Hebrew, dated to the 8th or 7th century BCE, have been recovered there, suggesting Israelite occupation.

Archaeological excavations
Excavations at Ain el-Qudeirat conducted by Dr. Rudolph Cohen, former head of the Israeli Antiquities Authority during the Israeli occupation of Sinai following the 1967 war uncovered copious remains of the Middle Bronze Age I period (MBA I or MBI, sometimes known as the Intermediate Bronze Age, IBA), which were also found at numerous other sites in the Negev. On the other hand, Late Bronze Age, the conventional time of the Exodus, was unattested in the Negev, although more recent reevaluations of the archaeological findings indicate that the site was probably occupied from at least the 12th century BCE. In an article in Biblical Archaeology Review of July, 1983, Cohen put forward the suggestion that the Exodus took place at the start of MBI and that the MBI people were, in fact, the Israelites. The idea has not been widely adopted.

Dr. Rudolph Cohen, former head of the Israeli Antiquities Authority during the second Israeli occupation of the Sinai Peninsula, uncovered copious remains at Ain el-Qudeirat, which dated to the Middle Bronze Age I (MBAI, MBI or Intermediate Bronze Age, IBA). The remains in this site were more numerous than the remains found in other sites in the Negev. In contrast, no such remains existed during the Late Bronze Age, which was the conventional date of the Exodus. However, more recent re-evaluations of Cohen's findings indicate that the site was probably occupied from at least the 12th century BCE. In 1983, Cohen suggested that the MBI people should be identified as 'proto-Israelites', based on migratory patterns and cultural discontinuity although there is evidence that they retained the earlier cultural customs of the southern Levant. Others archaeologists suggest they were Amorites and Kurgans, who arrived from the north and east.

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User talk:Thirteen 13

Why do you go by such a name?? Visit the Thirteenth floor article. What do you think of it?? 66.245.11.49 00:48, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

The article was very imformative. I go by this name becuase 13 is my lucky number (I'm sort of like an anti-triskadekaphobic), and well... because I couldn't really think of much else at the time. By the way, what's your username?

Change stubbing to listing??
You have changed the stubbing to listing in List of flags with black. Please note that there are 5 more articles similar to this, which are for the colors blue, red, white, yellow, and green. 66.245.110.129 01:06, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Thirteen 13, for doing exactly what I asked you to do. Will these pages become complete by August 2004?? 66.245.110.129 01:09, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Feedback
Why couldn't you just write 4 tildes rather than writing your name?? It will look like your name with a link and the date of signing. 66.245.110.129 01:11, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

You know, politeness can be useful in a community like this. I don't know for sure if "messy peoply leave bullet points" as the edit summary on HGH quackery is meant as an insult or just your shorthand for the edit, but I wanted to point out that being polite (especially about minor things) can build your own reputation in the community. My apologies if I misunderstood your comment and yes, my bad on the bullet point. I would have fixed it too. No hard feelings and best wishes on your continuted involvement in Wikipedia. Abqwildcat 20:20, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

Before nominating Justin King for speedy deletion, you might want to look over Candidates for speedy deletion. Yours, Meelar 20:26, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Further, as I have discussed with User:Meelar and on the Discussion page I have removed what may be termed "opinonated" and presented only facts. H1523702 20:51, 16 May 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for getting back to me. As you may have read in the talk page, I don't have any opinion of King yet, its too early in his time as CEO of Sainsbury's to rate his performance. The addition of the label "Justin Time" (a quote from commentary) could however be mistaken for approval and we can both agree that it was right to remove it. FYI, your edit summary caused me to become unnecessarily defensive, the NPOV query below it was a more constructive comment. No hard feelings, H1523702 00:11, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

I noticed that you nominated Maid of the Mist for speedy deletion. It doesn't appear to meet the criteria. An article isn't a candidate for deletion just because it needs more work. Newly written articles are often in need of work and part of the wiki philosophy is that if there is an article, however poorly written, those who read it will be tempted to improve it. You should probably consider the use of Cleanup instead if the topic is valid and the initial text provides some basic information about the subject. Jamesday 23:33, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

 * This also goes for Water jet rapids, Flight of the angels and Cave of the winds. Poor articles, yes, but most certainly not candidates for speedy deletion. Please be careful of what you label as such, thanks! Tom- 23:37, 31 May 2004 (UTC)

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Salih ibn Tarif

Ṣāliḥ ibn Ṭarīf (Arabic: صالح بن طريف) was the second king of the Berghouata kingdom, the prophet of a new abrahamic religion, and the eponymous ancestor of the Oulad Salah tribe of Morocco. He appeared during the caliphate of Hisham ibn Abd al-Malik in 744 AD.

The eleventh century Andalusian scholars Al-Bakri reports that Salih was a Judean (Yahūd) and claimed descent from Simeon son of Jacob, son of Isaac.

He is also said to have claimed to be the final Mahdi, and that Isa (Jesus) would be his companion and pray behind him. He proclaimed that his name in Arabic was Ṣāliḥ, in Syriac Mālik, in "Persian " ālim, in Hebrew Rūbyā, and in Berber Werba, and that after him would be no other prophet.

After reaching the age of 47 years, he headed east out of the kingdom, and promised to return in the reign of their seventh king. He told his son Ilyās to support the Umayyads of Andalus and publicly profess Islam, but to reveal his religion when he became powerful enough; the latter was done by his grandson Yūnus.

According to some sources, Ṣāliḥ ibn Ṭarīf regarded himself as a successor to Muhammad, had 10 Ṣahāba (disciples) and many wives, and claimed to be able to speak with the dead and heal the sick.

Other tenets that contrast with Islam include capital punishment for theft, unlimited number of wives a man allowed to have, fasting of the month of Rajab (7th month in lunar calendar) instead of Ramadan (9th month), ten obligatory daily prayers instead of five, differences in how to perform ablution, prayers, and the banning of marriage between cousins. The details of the tenets of Ṣāliḥ's religion are mentioned in many Arabic sources, such as Ibn Hazm, Ibn Khaldun and others.

In Islamic literature, his belief is considered heretical; politically, its motivation was presumably to establish their independence from the Umayyads (in a manner analogous to Kharijism, and earlier Donatism), establishing an independent ideology lending legitimacy to the state. Some modern Berber activists consider him to be Berber and regard him as a hero for his resistance to Umayyad-Arab conquest and his foundation of the Berghouata state.

The religion promoted by Ṣāliḥ was destroyed in the 11th century by the Almoravids.

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Talk:Television comedy

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Untitled
Removed ''This page replaces a redirect that used to point at Situation comedy. I felt that was unsatisfactory. So, here's a start on a proper article... from, I'm afraid, my woefully Anglocentric mind.''

not appropriate to have such comments on the article page. Tiles 00:54, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

Humor v Humour
This page has both the American and the English spellings of the word on it. What's the consensus on language use in this context? Tuneless

I don't have a preference (I'm English too by the way), it's just that the mixed use on a single non-language-specific page seems wrong somehow. My natural tendency would be to use Humour (given my nationality), but then if I was American I'd edit it to Humor. From any edit point of view I don't believe either would be wrong. However, they're both different and I was just looking for a little clarity on if there was a standard covering this. Tuneless | Talk 10:30, 14 October 2005 (GMT)
 * If I recall correctly the policy is that the English and American spellings are used according to the topic. So, for the article British comedy humor and American comedy humor''. Of course, that doesn't help us much here. I'm British but I accept that the Wikipedia readership is more usually American ... so if you have a

154.73.212.164 (talk) 16:44, 16 August 2021 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ta lk:Television_comedy&action=edit&section=new

Daddy
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Cheers, Sam Spade 00:55, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

[ ignore this comment - have replied at Talk:Tony_Blair ] Morwen 19:25, May 14, 2004 (UTC)

Hey Ugen-the-powerless. There was a hardware failure back in January which meant that about three days worth of uploads which hadn't yet been backed up were lost. At the time we were told that they might be rescued from the failed hard-drive in the future, but it doesn't look like anyone's going to do this. If you find broken images in articles then they need to be taken out or replaced I guess. fabiform | talk 00:43, 15 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I got the images from google image searches, so I expect you can find the same one, or a similar one, to re-upload. fabiform | talk 14:40, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for starting Darfur conflict. -- Ke4roh 23:46, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

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Commas
Hi Cayzle, and thanks for your edits.

Wikipedia's take on commas is a little different to what's taught in America... See WP:LQ. It doesn't please everyone but it seems a reasonable compromise in an international encyclopedia.

Cheers, Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 06:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Your user page
Hello, I found your user page while doing some wikiarchaeology. . I have restored all of its earliest surviving revisions from old copies of the Wikipedia database, so they are available to everyone now. Hope you don't mind. Graham 87 08:44, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Graham, it is appreciated! -- Cayzle

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Thank you.

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My name
I would be more surprised if you had found my name in a dictionary. It's my own invention. Its intended meaning is the study of bits and pieces of everything from a wide variety of sources. This has been consistent with the broad dabbling that I have done over the last couple years in the Wikimedia projects. Eclecticology 17:05, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Edit summary field
Hi! Just some advise from a co-wikipedian with common interests: it would be super-nice if everybody took a couple of seconds to fill in the summary field after editing articles (e.g. fixing typos -- in fact, especially then), so all the watchlist users didn't have to check the diff to find out what has changed. Saves us all a little annoyance and some time. No need for a doctoral thesis in the summary, just some short abbrevs will do, like "typo" etc. --Wernher 15:42, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * After about twenty minor edits in a row I just get tired of lableing every one, but you've got a point. I'll be more disciplined about it. — Clarknova 20:46, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Squirrel picture
Hi Clarkanova... that's a very nice photo you've put on the Pine Squirrel page, but what species do you think it is? It looks much more like an Eastern Gray Squirrel than either of the pine squirrels to me, but I don't know T. hudsonicus well. seglea 21:11, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * You, my friend, are right! — Clarknova 21:45, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Timewave Zero, &c.
Hi there. I'm officially wanting to ask you about the Timewave Zero screenshot you created. Did you make it? If so, do you know how to get the software? I've been looking everywhere but I can't find it. (Unofficially, I have the courage to ask you this because your user page makes you seem quite interesting. [end compliment])

 * Heh. Thanks.  And yes, I have a copy, but unfortunately it's an earlier version, not the "Final" which allowed you to plot several waves, including the one based on John Sheliak's correction.  I downloaded that one in 1998, but lost it when a machine of mine crashed.  It's no longer being offered by anyone, which is a shame.  It represented a lot of work by some very smart people.

 * I offer you three options. I can:

 * send you the standard email with TWZ attached,
 * give you my address, to which you'll mail five bucks for media and shipping (I make no profit), and then I'll send you my 3 CD set of McKenna lectures, interviews, and the TWZ software, or
 * do both.

 * Send an email to somanova at spiritelf dot com and tell me which you'd prefer. (This offer is open to anyone reading this page.)  — Clarknova 18:06, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * Added a permanent link to the TWZ software (in the form of a zip archive) to the Novelty Theory page. — Clarknova 04:33, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Voynich Manuscript
You are right about the title of Levitov's book, sorry. Thanks for fixing that. Jorge Stolfi 02:55, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thanks
It's because I'm supposed to be working. Meelar (talk) 05:35, Apr 18, 2005 (UTC)

Riddle on my page
Thanks for the additional riddle. Sorry for the long time until my thanks, but I don't visit my page that often. I was wondering if you could explain how a placenta leads armies. I'm just not making the connection. Thanks again. Remuel 14:44, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * In ancient Egypt the Pharaoh's placenta was preserved, mounted on a pole, and borne before the army into battle. This was the first flag. They retain this symbolism in the unconscious, as can be seen in phrases like "mother country", "birth of a nation", etc. — Clarknova 19:19, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks.Remuel 16:34, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Your Advice
Thank you for the tips, I'll see what I can do, but I think I want to go through that moderation before I mess with trying to put up the heavily cited material, just so I don't get that immediately reverted back as well.

PS, I have to ask.... are you the Clarknova from #sputnik?

KV 06:48, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Hermetism
Hermetism has also been rewritten substantially, I intend to fuse in some of the Hermeticism information that is also applicable to it...... and then perhap break off the relationship to other systems section into it's own article.

KV 07:12, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Stuffed tomatoes
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aya stuff
I actually spent about two months living down there last summer, before heading over to peru to attend the first annual conference on amazonian shamanism (hosted by alan shoemaker and Soga del Alma). It was quite an experience, to say the least. I was living with a family of shamans, casimiro is about 75 and began his apprenticeship when he was still a kid, maybe 8 or 9. His wife, two of their sons, a daughter-in-law and a granddaughter also live there. There isn't really much aya tourism yet in ecuador, which is nice, and Casimiro is from the old school- none of the mestizo stuff you'd find in peru, his icaros are all from the jungle. ..

Honestly for such an intense two months (or perhaps because of that) i have trouble saying much about it. ..

None of the ayahuasca experiences were all that intense, compared to other experiences i've had and the experiences of others there. But that's basicly due to the stuff i was struggling with and working through at the time, i guess. I still learned a hell of a lot. ..

I don't have a blog or online journal or anything of that sort, but i am a member of the ayahuasca forum and have talked about some of it there. I do have about 5 more rolls of film that i haven't gotten developed for some reason, i'd like to do that and scan some more stuff in. dunno if i have any photos of finished tea, when it's done they kinda hide it until ceremony time.

I'd write a bit more but i have to drive down to school. If you've got any questions or anything or want some contact info just say the word. . . They're always happy to have visitors.

cheers

--He:ah? 22:59, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikiproject.......
Wikiproject: Egyptian Religion

KV 19:04, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

manly hall
put back the neutrality tags, and clean up tags, on the manly hall article, or correct them yourself, not really nice to push your occultish agenda down other people's throat's now is it? 195.134.69.158 15:29, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

hi clarkenova
thought you might be interested in the following.... no worries if your not too bothered.........the playground continues nevertheless.......Thesource42 17:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

childish redirect
(the article presently on the main Clairsentience page .. if it stays there for 5 minutes ... is the old first draft before months of work was childishly trashed and a meaningless redirect to the clairvoyance page put in its place...Thesource42 17:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

the playground games continue...

ive posted this on the clairvoyance talk page after someone completely removed the clar#irsentience article which had gone through a process of months of work, rewrites , endless discussion , removasl of personal matereal , edits for style and content .... endless work on correct sourcing and wikpedia referencing and formatting..... the article which had been arrived at with co operation and discussion over many weeks and v man who himself put some hours into grammer , punctuation ... re editting for stlye and content ... and much help in correct sourcing and referencing .....Thesource42 17:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

this article was the sum of many peoples input, effort and hard work  so i dont know how or who removed it so thoughtlessly and put the meaningless redirect to the clairvoyance page... any help would be great.... cheers..Thesource42 17:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

hi guys
i see youve redirected the clairsentience article.... let me ask....what was the point of the weeks of discussions and rewrites if you guys were going to redirect it anyway....you should have told me t get lost out of here...... what was the point of it all? why did i listen to you ? at all? why did i remove all personal references? why did i reference and source all of my matereal diligently and in great detail ? why did i edit and re edit for style and content ? why did i make additional references to religios, anthropological ,socialogical , philosophical ,medical , physics , chemistry , botany , mental health etc so that all views were included and respected? why did i fulfill all of the above hurdles and hoops to fulfill wikpedia formatting and guidlines for you too to delete months of hard work and effort. your actions are without integrity or honour .....

clairsentience article redirect ?
Hi ..... whoever removed the clairsentience article and made it redirect ... can you please try and respect that the article that was there had evolved over a couple of months of discussion and many rewrites and multiple edits which involved much discussion over a long period...... .........i could delete this clairvoyance article.... but i wont because revert and delete wars then stupidly take place  which is a real shame when a library becomes a bar room brawl......

..... i hope you can respect the clairsentience article...

..... ive been clairsentient for most of my adult life and it wasnt easy to come this far and to struggle for decades to articulate my experience in a way which makes rational sense to the world at large of which the clairsentience article is a manifest example..... so please try and respect the vast amount of struggle and work which has gone into it....

[[Image:Gfi.socket.png]]
Now that's an interesting image... was that a manipulation of a photograph, or did you draw that freehand? 68.39.174.238 20:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Etisalat vandals
Those instances of vandalism were many days ago. We don't usually block vandals unless they have been vandalizing in the last couple of hours, and after a level 4 warning. — coe l acan — 18:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

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Munditia
You’re right: it’s not the same reliquary. That wasn’t immediately obvious to me when I was creating the article. I removed the second image from the article. I found the (correct) image quite by accident, I forget how, saw that there was no article for Munditia, and started writing the article. There’s not much info about Munditia out there, at least not thus far. Thanks! Best regards. --Polylerus 16:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Wilhelm and the McKenna conspiracy
Wow, I'm shocked to E-meet some one else who will consider the ideas of Wilhelm Reich anything but hogwash. We clearly have some common points of view and nothing to lose by sharing them. Might I ask you to drop me an E-mail if time permits? That way we can type like civilized people away from these vulgar public message boards. I'm at DBrown29@mix.wvu.edu and I hope to hear from you. Adiuex.71.61.220.31 (talk) 23:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology
SMART is a system used to kill the drive when the warranty is up —Clarknova 03:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

From what I read of your page, you came across as someone with intelligence... Obviously not if you write such rubbish as the line above. 86.136.139.202 (talk) 01:03, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Novelty theory
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 * This marks the second time an attempt to delete the article has failed. At least this time the article creator was warned :)  —Clarknova (talk) 01:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposed move of Novelty theory to Timewave zero
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Re: Image for nomination
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Deleted image
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Cute
Re: There is also an endless supply of mineral water...

Check. Undone. Was this a test of some kind? -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  04:37, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

 * As far as I know the only two edits I've ever made to that article were disambiguating the Golden Dawn link and now removing the mineral water comment. Otherwise my only serious entanglement with Rosicrucianism was by way of reading Foucault's Pendulum. No, I'm as much in the dark as you. -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  04:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

 * No problem. I enjoyed our correspondence anyway. Happy editing! -- Shelf Skewed  Talk  05:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Timewave_zero
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POTD notification
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Speedy deletion nomination of Test:About
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The Last Married Couple in America

The Last Married Couple in America is a 1980 comedy film released in the US.

It was directed by Gilbert Cates, whose most successful film Oh, God! Book II, was released in the same year. The film starred George Segal and Natalie Wood as a California couple in the late 1970s struggling to maintain their "happily married" status as all their friends begin to get divorces and seem to be caught up in the decadence of the sexual revolution and the "ME" era. This is the last completed theatrical release Natalie Wood made before her death in 1981.

Plot
Life is going along smoothly for Jeff and Mari Thompson but not for any other couple they know, or so it seems. Everyone they know is getting divorced.

Their life is disrupted when Mari's old college friend, Barbara, comes into it and begins a fling with Jeff, which causes Mari to contemplate an affair of her own.

Music
The theme song to this film is "We Could Have It All," sung by Maureen McGovern. The song became a hit on the adult contemporary charts of Canada (#6) and the U.S. (#16). It was written by Charles Fox and Norman Gimbel. Also featured on the soundtrack is Denise LaSalle's "I'm Trippin' on You", which was released as a single in 1981.

Cast

 * George Segal as Jeff Thompson
 * Natalie Wood as Mari Thompson
 * Richard Benjamin as Marv
 * Valerie Harper as Barbara
 * Bob Dishy as Howard
 * Arlene Golonka as Sally
 * Dom DeLuise as Walter
 * Allan Arbus as Al
 * Priscilla Barnes as Helena
 * Catherine Hickland as Rebecca
 * Sondra Currie as Lainy
 * Oliver Clark as Max Dryden

Box office
Upon release, the film was disappointing at the box office.

title: The Last Married Couple in America


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User talk:SimoM

Welcome to the Wikipedia
Here are some links I find useful

 * Policy Library
 * Cite your sources
 * Verifiability
 * Wikiquette
 * Conflict resolution
 * Brilliant prose
 * Neutral point of view
 * Pages needing attention
 * Peer review
 * Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense
 * Village pump
 * Boilerplate text

Cheers, Sam Spade 00:58, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

 * Thank you sir. SimoM 07:34, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Bombing in Mikkeli
159753: Sorry, about this, when I went to Mikkeli on a ESF trip, my Finnish host said that the 90% of the City was destoryed over World War II, and only a few buildings like the Turmiokirkko, and the Provicial building had survived.
 * Well, I have to seriously doubt that figure. Born and lived my childhood in the Mikkeli area, I would think that such destruction would show as a much more serious absence of pre-1939 buildings, and that it would have been well-known public knowledge. I have heard often references to the damages of the bombings in the Winter War as severe, while of later World War II such tales were not told. According to statistics on the city website (sorry, Finnish only), 88 (about 9%) of 939 separate properties (buildings or groups of buildings) in the city were damaged and 43 (about 5%) were fully destroyed due to all the aerial bombings during the Winter War together. In percentage this was the second worst in Finland, after Lappeenranta. Of course this was already enough to change the "face" of the city significantly, as several notable buildings near the city center were damaged or destroyed. According to a local museum  (in Finnish), Mikkeli was bombed only twice in the Continuation War and the damages then were minor. But apparently the legend grows in re-telling: for example, a music reviewer claimed that "Russian bombers destroyed 200 of Mikkeli's wooden houses in one night" . -- SimoM 15:48, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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User talk:John Foley

I assert to have voted for picture 2. JPF 09:42, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

 Leave a Message

 It is now on Monday, July 29, 2024 Wikitime

Welcome to the Wikipedia
Here are some links I find useful

 * Policy Library
 * Cite your sources
 * Verifiability
 * Wikiquette
 * Conflict resolution
 * Brilliant prose
 * Neutral point of view
 * Pages needing attention
 * Peer review
 * Bad jokes and other deleted nonsense
 * Village pump
 * Boilerplate text

Cheers, Sam Spade 00:58, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

=Messages=

Further welcome
After seeing you on the bus and in the street I 'see' you here. Welcome aboard. Good to see someone else knowledgeable on legal topics is making a contribution. One project I have in mind and had intended to do - but I got distracted by writing the Fathers' rights page - was to produce a set of guidelines for solicitors in dealing with cases of implacable hostility, etc. Would you collaborate here in such a topic, perhaps linked to Fathers' rights? It might be worth using SFLA Code of Conduct as a starting point. Matt Stan 15:09, 20 May 2004 (UTC)

I agree that implacable hostility and its allied issues need to be set out and have initiated the page. Note that lawyer guidelines are not suitable for an encyclopaedia but may be better dealt with e.g. as a book. JPF

1895_in_sports

 * It might be just me, but the format of your addition to 1895 in sports doesn't fit the predominant style of those particular pages - it might perhaps be better to have a separate article on the 1895 Chess Congress (where it'll be possible to go into more detail), and then have a brief line about it in the 1895 in sports page, in the same style as the other links. Average Earthman 10:38, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Good point. I'll sort this out. JPF 15:52, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Grand International Chess Congress
Did you have permission to copy the paragraph about 1895 Chess Congress from the book website? If not, it might be a good idea to rewrite it in your own words. We try to be careful with copyrights at Wikipedia. Andris 21:18, May 26, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for caution. All that remains is the link to the book website. There was already a more complete page on the Hastings 1895 event which I had overlooked. JPF 21:40, 26 May 2004 (UTC)

Father's rights articles
Hi. You need more than a link for an article. Articles that only contain a link are candidates for speedy deletion. Try creating the article in your user space until it is finished and then creating it as an article. - Tεx τ urε 23:18, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Sunderland
There was a guy at the FNF conference in Coventry last year who was a worker detailed to the Sunderland contact centre. He reported that the mother visitors were all Arabs, and apparently in the Arab community in Sunderland it is more usual for patriarchal family values to persist. I haven't got the name, though the FNF office might be able to help. Matt Stan 08:05, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

Splitting up the article
If one follows a structured approach then the main article should contain a summary which can be fully more detailed elsewhere, which would be my preference for something that has grown too large. Some might consider it a nuisance that you moved the 'Updates' from the main page to the subsidiary page because they might have had their watchlist set to point at the main page, and will hence miss any updates unless they also set watches on the subsidiary pages. Also, unless you make clear some terms of reference in the main page you might find that others perform edits that duplicate what you've moved to the subsidiary page because they don't realise how you've structured the thing. In general in Wikipedia there are no rules about structure, and the ability to link anything to anything seems to negate arguments that the unplanned nature of the enterprise will inevitably lead to chaos. Your indication of relief that I didn't object to your carve up might also be indicative of some self-doubt on your own part? ;-) Matt Stan 08:18, 28 May 2004 (UTC)

T H Taylor
I replied on my talk page. Andris 16:01, May 31, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the tip about my Welsh user page going bananas. I was away on holiday at the time and only just checked it out, but it seems okay now. Maybe it was something to do with the new page format? Deb 13:41, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Wadham
Apologies if you thought it was a vanity entry - I will find a colleague to re-enter my accolade who will prove that you were being presumptive in your implicit denigration of my work. CJW Martin

United Nations
the United Nations, from which Wikipedia has received formal recognition,

 * This is news to me. Can tell me where i can find that? Walter 21:20, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Refer to where Wikipedia displayed at the United Nations

Gender role
Dear John - I just found your comment on my user page. First of all: try to avoid writing on other peoples user pages, it's officially considered vandalism - which I understand was not your intention. I gave a reason for the removal on the Gender role talk page. See you there. Also note the section "don't be reckless" on Be bold in updating pages--Fenice 15:51, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC) PS you may however write on peoples talk-pages, thats the "discussion"-tab on the top--Fenice 15:53, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Edward Gibbon
He seems he went to both then. My original source was the list of former pupils of Westminster, and also the fact that we had a Gibbon prize at the school. It talks about both in http://50.1911encyclopedia.org/G/GI/GIBBON_EDWARD.htm (1911 EB), with a bit more detail than our article - so really we should lift some more text from there. ed g2s •  talk  23:47, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Balliol articles
I'm not sure you need to split all those sections from Balliol College, as most of them would surely fit in the main article? It's not that important either way, but if they are going to be separate pages, they should have better names - Balliol College alumni instead of Balliol/Alumni for example - subpages aren't used in the main Wikipedia namespace anymore. sjorford 14:16, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

They would fit on the main page at present but I anticipate that the main page will fill up again with more relevant material. The reason for splitting them out is that the lists dominate the college page unnecessarily. It also makes it look as if the college is more concerned about the past than the future - which cannot be right. I accept your point on the naming convention and will change accordingly. JPF 14:22, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Balliol Tortoise Racing
You left a message on my page a while back about tortoise racing at Balliol College - thanks for the heads-up. It's been a long time since I've been at Balliol, so I hadn't realized that Rosie the Tortoise was gone. It looks like someone has fixed the entry, however.

I noticed on your page that you recently lost your mother. Very sorry.

-Sasha Kopf

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

Image licencing
Hi, I'm working on the image tagging project, I see you uploaded a bunch of images from the Londo wiki- meet, are you releasing these under the GFDL, and if do could you tag them with, many thanks --nixie 03:08, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

PAS
Dear John. I made the Dutch wikipedia-article on PAS ( ouderverstotingssyndroom). Placed an interwiki-link on (your) article on PAS. I have doubts about your text:

''There has been much legal and medical argument about whether the term syndrome should be allowed in connection with this type of emotional abuse of children. However, given its prevalence there has been a move to have it recognised as a specific syndrome - parental alienation syndrome. This is a position first advocated by the late American psychiatrist Dr. Richard A. Gardner, who makes the point that inclusion of the word syndrome is specific as regards the cause of the child's alienation, whereas omission of that word is not.''

The word syndrome does in my opinion not look at the absence or presence of causes. Compare to things like down-syndrome ( originally not labelled to a cause). I just wrote a short note on that problem in Dutch. Helas I'm not good enough in English to translate it.

I did put this comment on the article-related discussion page as well.

react please on my nl:overleg_gebruiker:zander

--Joep Zander 15:16, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

photo deleted
Hi, John!

I deleted WikimeetlondonPic6-17.jpg which is a photo of my daughter which you took. I am trying to remove photos of her from the web now for reasons of personal security. (Someone has written a hate site about me, and posted on there a photo of her with insults -- shocking to me, and a little scary.)

If you don't personally have a copy, and you want one, just email me and I'll gladly send it to you. --Jimbo Wales 18:07, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Jimbo

I am saddened to hear of this calumny against you. If anybody deserved support it is you and your wonderful family. I was touched by the loving support they gave you during your visit to London when their patience must have been tested at all the time you spent on Wikipedia matters. The commitment you showed to this wonderful project is exemplary.

The photo you removed is very cute. I had made a point of posting it without naming its subject and had put a comment on the Edit History to that effect on 8th June 2004. I still have the page on my watchlist but unfortunately missed the modification which identified the child. I perfectly understand your reaction and fully support you. I am professionally aware of child protection issues. I have the original so there is no need to send me it.

The collection of photos from that event are so evocative that even with one removed there will still be a worthy record of a memorable meeting. The enthusiasm demonstrated by the participants is palpable. Your remarks were honest and visionary. One of those rare balmy summer days in a Royal Park in London has infused the project with an almost sunny disposition.

Best regards

JPF 10:53, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Su doku
I've seen people scribbling away at sudoku on the train and not really paid much attention, and just sort of vaguely wondered what they were up to, before forgetting about it; but on Friday I read the BBC News article about it and downloaded a puzzle from the Telegraph's website www.sudoku.org.uk. Now I'm hooked! Jooler 22:24, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * Bad luck. If symptoms persist after one month then consult a doctor. JPF 10:41, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

 * I saw your comment in Wikipedia talk:tomorrow's featured article - before it gets to the front page, Sudoku will need to become a featured article and be approved on featured article candidates. It looks pretty good, but one weak area which is the lack of explicit references.  Well done, by the way. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:57, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Where would you see the most useful explicit references? JPF 13:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Sorry - what I meant was that there is no section setting out the references that have been used to write the article and can be used to verify its contents. You may well know this already, so please apologise if I am teaching you to suck eggs, but a featured article has to meet certain criteria against which it is measured on WP:FAC.  An important criterion is that it must be "Accurate: Supports facts with specifics and external citations (see Verifiability). Includes references, arranged in a ==References== section and enhanced by the appropriate use of inline citations (see Cite sources)."  At present, while the article has some external links, there is no "References" section at all.  It could also do with a somewhat longer lead section - the present short paragraph does not do the article justice. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:54, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Hmm. Some of those external links - especially those that point to Nikoli websites - are references.  Actually, I've trying to sort the external links, placing those that are more referential towards the top of the list.  I hope that helps.  Another note: I deleted your (John Foley's) statement about crosswords from the article due to it being off-topic, but I have moved it to another article where it belongs - the article on the publisher Nikoli, which was apparently just created - and expanded it into a paragraph.  I thought I should tell you directly, and I hope you find that acceptable.  - ZM  Zotmeister 19:10, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Yes, I figured as much (I added the new Nikoli one after I used it to source one of my recent additions). Sorting the "source"-like external links (which are actually used to write and verify the article) from more tangential links should help, yes.  Thanks.  -- ALoan (Talk) 20:25, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for that. Excellent contributions by the way. JPF 19:39, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
 * John - I just saw your comments on Wikipedia talk:tomorrow's featured article, and I came here to tell you exactly what Aloan did (but I can see he beat me to the punch). I'm the one who chooses articles to feature on the main page, and I'd be happy to put it up, once it gets promoted from featured article candidates. →Raul654 20:51, May 17, 2005 (UTC)

Well, I certainly am sixteen. -- Emsworth 18:57, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

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Convention on Psychotropic Substances

 * Object The Convention is an international agreement but there is no discussion of the politics surrounding its creation or continuing existence. The article has relatively too much focus on individual substances whilst ignoring the real controversy regarding the legalisation of some drugs. The Convention is regarded as one reason why some countries find it difficult to adopt a more liberal approach to drug use. In short, the article needs to take a more strategic perspective on the issues. JPF 22:23, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Hmm, there is some mention of the politics in the Controversy section, and the debates that shaped the final text in the Comparison section. Some mention of proposals to amend it is in the Recent trends section. I haven't heard of many proposals to reform this particular Convention; generally the focus is on its sister treaty, the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, and the United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances, which a lot of people favor scrapping because it cannot be amended. There is also talk of removing drugs from the Single Convention and transferring them to the Convention on Psychotropic Substances, because the latter is a lot more flexible. Drugs can be regulated or completely deregulated internationally without amending the Convention's text, so the debate tends to center on specific drugs and on the other treaties. The 2130 03:26, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for pointing this out. In my opinion, the article should explain this for the general reader. The current focus on specific drugs gives the impression that the article cannot see the wood for the trees. I know it is setting a high standard for an article, but context is very important in understanding any Convention. Alternatively, perhaps there should be another page which gives the context to all the international drugs treaties. JPF 10:21, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * All right, it's been revised. by the way, have you seen Chess championship? CSA 19:06, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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Hello—

Just wondering how confident you were about spelling Brackenbury with a 'k'. I'm pretty sure that when I was a member (and subsequently President) of the A&B it was spelt Brakenbury, because people used to get annoyed that everybody spelt it incorrectly [sic] by instinctively adding the 'k'. But I may be misremembering. Any authority on the point would be appreciated! Best wishes, talkGiler 10:36, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

 * It seems that the benefactor Hannah Brackenbury changed the spelling of her name, dropping the 'c'. The Brackenbury scholarship is spelled in the original way: it would be more consistent for the A&B to be spelled the same but it is entirely up to the A&B. Background on the spelling of Bra(c)kenbury JPF 17:06, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

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Desert rock

Desert rock may refer to

Music

 * Palm Desert Scene, a Californian music culture that has been described as "desert rock"
 * North African and Saharan desert blues or desert rock music
 * Desert Rock, a musical project formed by British blues rock guitarist Ramon Goose
 * Dubai Desert Rock Festival, an event celebrating various styles of rock and metal music on one stage in Dubai, United Arab Emirates

Other uses

 * Desert Rock exercises, a series of exercises conducted by the U.S. military in conjunction with atmospheric nuclear tests
 * Camp Desert Rock, a former staging base for troops participating in the Desert Rock exercises
 * Desert Rock Airport, a private-use airport located near the central business district of Mercury, in Nye County, Nevada, United States
 * Mt. Desert Rock, an island of Maine home to the Mount Desert Light lighthouse

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