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Talk:Visual Studio

Supported products
Each of the languages are themselves major products and thus have their own pages on wwikipedia, so I feel that most of this section is redundant. DominicConnor (talk) 18:58, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

vs2010 Codename
As a heads up, VS 2010 was not codenamed 'Rosario'. 'Rosario' referred to a Visual Studio Team System only release that was going to be based on VS 2008. This was going to be released separately from the lower SKUs, VS Pro, VS Express, etc. Rosario in this context also didn't refer to Rosario Strait, but rather to the Rosario resort on Orcas island. In the same way that the Rosario resort was built on Orcas island, VS 'Rosario' would be built on top of VS 2008 ('Orcas'). While the Team System Product Group were working on Rosario, the rest of the VS team were working on what was called 'Dev10'. It became clear as the product cycle continued they were going to be targeting a similar timeframe (end of 2009/start of 2010), and rather than ship a version of Rosario that was based on VS 2008, that it would be better to build it on top of VS 2010. Hence, the two products merged and were released together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.81 (talk) 16:58, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

 * Do you have a source for any of the release being based on VS 2008 instead of 2010, and/or for Roasario and Dev10 having separate teams working on each? Ajm 80386 (talk) 13:28, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Visual Studio 2010 for Windows Phone
i did not see a mention of the new addition to visual studio 2010. "visual studio 2010 for windows phone" is a new adittion for making phone applacations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keanwood (talk • contribs) 01:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

 * Its an after-release addon for download. It doesnt ship on the CD.94.168.168.153 (talk) 16:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

 * True. But that doesn't mean that it has no place in the article. Quite on the contrary, a good article must be broad in coverage. So, feel free to add something about it. Fleet Command (talk) 06:39, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Survey
WP:Good article usage is a survey of the language and style of Wikipedia editors in articles being reviewed for Good article nomination. It will help make the experience of writing Good Articles as non-threatening and satisfying as possible if all the participating editors would take a moment to answer a few questions for us, in this section please. The survey will end on April 30.

 * Would you like any additional feedback on the writing style in this article?
 * Sure, constructive feedback is always welcome. --soum talk 04:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * If you write a lot outside of Wikipedia, what kind of writing do you do?
 * Mainly academic technical writing, aka, research papers. --soum talk 04:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

 * Is your writing style influenced by any particular WikiProject or other group on Wikipedia?
 * Not anything particular. I just try to maintain a key things: short sentences, third person constructs, and not mixing active/passive voice. --soum talk 04:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

At any point during this review, let us know if we recommend any edits, including markup, punctuation and language, that you feel don't fit with your writing style. Thanks for your time. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 04:06, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

My GA Review of this article
A good article has the following attributes:

 * 1. It is well written. In this respect:
 * (a) the prose is clear and the spelling and grammar are correct; and
 * (b) it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, jargon, words to avoid, fiction, and list incorporation.

 * I fixed some issues.
 * Can you reword the paragraph about the Server Explorer tool—it is a little awkward.
 * The Team Foundation Server paragraph has an incomplete sentence in the middle.
 * Why the different font for names like "SVsSolution" and "SVsShell".
 * Why are the languages available as part of the Express IDEs expressed in a list instead of prose?
 * Pre-Installed Virtual Machines section has a string of bold text with no separating punctuation.
 * Fix infobox (preview release? and languages (more?)) per Template:Infobox_Software

 * 2. It is factually accurate and verifiable. In this respect, it:
 * (a) provides references to all sources of information, and at minimum contains a section dedicated to the attribution of those sources in accordance with the guide to layout;
 * (b) at minimum, provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons;[2] and
 * (c) contains no original research.

 * Lot of citation issues. A lot of sections (as marked) need citations that support the text and inline citations.

 * 3. It is broad in its coverage. In this respect, it:
 * (a) addresses the major aspects of the topic;[3] and
 * (b) stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary details (see summary style).

 * Are there any WikiArticle you could list in a See also section?
 * The Supported products section seems to go into too much detail (and is also poorly sourced). Most of the current and previously supported products have their own WikiArticles, so not much need in dedicating an entire paragraph to each one--just provide a link. The article is pretty long, and (like I said) since this section is poorly sourced, I would cut it down significantly.

 * 4. It is neutral; that is, it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias.

 * Good

 * 5. It is stable; that is, it is not the subject of an ongoing edit war or content dispute. Vandalism reversion, proposals to split or merge content, good faith improvements to the page (such as copy editing) and changes based on reviewers' suggestions do not apply. Nominations for articles that are unstable because of constructive editing should be placed on hold.

 * No prior issues

 * 6. It is illustrated, where possible, by images.[4] In this respect:
 * (a) images used are tagged with their copyright status, and fair use rationales are provided for non-free content; and
 * (b) the images are appropriate to the topic, and have suitable captions.[5]

 * One image in good standing
 * Not sure the Data tooltips screenshot is necessary.
 * The Visual Studio Web Designer in code editor view image is no where close to the section that discusses the program. (The same could be said for most images--please think about placement.)

Conclusion
My initial feeling is to fail this GAN because I think it will take a while to fix all these issues, but since you've been waiting for a month to get this article reviewed, I'll be optimistic and put the article on hold for one week and give you a shot at it. Good luck! --Eustress (talk) 19:54, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for taking the time to review this. I probably will not have enough time (or energy) to devote to this article anytime soon. But I will try to clarify some questions you raised:
 * Why the different font for names like "SVsSolution" and "SVsShell"?
 * Because they are not just names but interfaces to plug some stuff into the Visual Studio infrastructure. For regular readers, it will suffice as name, but for informed programmers, it is -ified to indicate that it has some special use.
 * Why are the languages available as part of the Express IDEs expressed in a list instead of prose?
 * Because they are the same as the versions in "Included products". Duplicating the prose isn't necessary.
 * Are there any WikiArticle you could list in a See also section?
 * I don't think there is much need. Relevant articles are already linked to in the prose.
 * The Supported products section seems to go into too much detail (and is also poorly sourced).
 * Each paragraph provides a very high level overview only, and is only three or four lines in average. Chopping any further would make things lose context. There are many people who would not like to read an entire article for one language that is not in their core abilities. For this reason, a centralized and high level overview of supported products is necessary.

 * I realize sourcing is an issue and that facet needs to be improved. But won't have time anytime soon. Plus with the upcoming SP1, the article might get unstable. I suggest you fail it for now. --soum talk 20:16, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your understanding and for your responses to my inquiries. I'll fail it per our discussion, but feel free to let me know when it's up for GAN again—I'd be happy to review it if circumstances permit. Best --Eustress (talk) 21:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Merge proposal
I propose the merge currently listed on this article. It appears that the creator of the article VSX was unaware of this article. Now I am no expert but both articles seem to be talking about the same things. I hence propose a merger of the article located at VSX to come here (and whatever info is already said here to just be deleted). As I said I am no expert, so maybe I have missed something, so anyone with knowledge about this topic should handle the move/next line of action. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 06:44, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Conditional support. The extensibility section in this article is just an introduction. It can be covered more deeply, and for this reason the VSX article is of great potential. But the way it stands, its barely more than a personal essay and does not provide too much of an encyclopedic information not already here. If that is fixed and the VSX article fleshed out considerably, it should be linked from here as a main article. Failing that, it can be merged here. --soum talk 06:34, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Oppose. Due to the length of the Visual Studio article, I think a full merge would be unnecessary, and would rather have VSX as a separate page going more in depth than a section here. — Northgrove 11:57, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Visual Studio 2010
I skimmed the existing section on this product, and it seemed like it wasn't updated for the new (official) information here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vstudio/products/cc948977.aspx. I'm just telling, because I don't have time for this myself at this exact moment. :-) Update: Also, more material here and here on Channel 9 as videos. — Northgrove 23:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Should probably mention the supposed black box feature for reproducing test cases of bugs in applications which can be ticked on. Can't find the link at the moment, probably on MSDN but was mentioned on cnet news. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.162.101.108 (talk) 13:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Also VS 2010 now has F# as standard, guess that ought to be there, in fact I can't find an article on F#, might start that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicConnor (talk • contribs) 23:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Parallelism support in VS 10
If someone is up for the task, here is the information you need: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/cc817396.aspx. --soum talk 03:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

 * That's a framework addition, not a VS 10 addition. --Blowdart | talk 11:18, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

 * Not really. The APIs are framework addition, but the debugging and profiling tools are VS additions. --soumtalk 05:30, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

MS Babble?
This article is well written, however, some of the language is over precise and lacks a human element, things 'integrate' and have 'functionality', in the style of MS written material. Current MS IP (such as .NET) is discussed in detail although it has its own articles.

The article gives no context, no history. No mention is made of why Dev Studio was created, what inovations it has introduced, how it has influenced development practices. There is a version history but this is presented as a list of features.
 * So change it then. §FreeRangeFrog 23:33, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

I am surprised that this article mentions nothing about Visual Studio Premier Partner Edition... You can see Premier Partner Edition Setup and User Guide for more information... UU (talk) 15:11, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

 * It's because VSPPE is known as "Visual Studio Shell" since VS2008, and that is described in the article. -- int19h (talk) 20:32, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

source safe
Corrected wrong stuff, but now it's too long. Feel free to cut it back again. 150.101.166.15 (talk) 03:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

DreamSpark
It is unclear whether Dreamspark is just for US students or students worldwide. Can someone find out and add the necessary words in that sentence? Also, if you do, modify the DreamSpark article.

a_boardley (talk) 15:52, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

 * DreamSpark is available in many different countries. Just go to the website and check out the language selector dropdown... -- int19h (talk) 20:33, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Im using it in the UK.81.23.50.232 (talk) 01:43, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

I wrote an article for the Register on it, and D is as international as MS can manage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DominicConnor (talk • contribs) 23:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Dont think its in india. You can get vouchers for Microsoft certification exams through DS and it says "Not available in india" and something about them not having valid student IDs. And seeing as you need a student ID to get onto DS.... 94.168.168.153 (talk) 16:22, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Visual C# 2008
Hi, i'm refering to "The Visual C# 2008 compiler supports version 3.0 of the C# language specifications". If im not mistaken, version 3.5 is supported. Could somebody familiar with VS check this? Kind regards, -mafutrct (talk) 10:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

 * There's no such thing as "C# 3.5". You're probably confusing it with .NET 3.5. However, there is a version mismatch there - .NET 3.5 came with C# 3.0 (and .NET 3.0 was just a library add-on for .NET 2.0). -- int19h (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Earlier Versions
The version history starts at 5.0 and should include earlier versions. I used 4.2, 4.1 and earlier versions (and was trying to find out their features). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.172.126 (talk) 01:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello,

as a programmer having some experience with the classic Visual products, I'm currently working on a minor correction of the DE-WP Visual Studio article, regarding the version history. I'd like to inform you, that the mention of a "Visual Studio Version 4.0" is a mistake.

To my good knowledge as well as a result of research there actually was no Visual Studio version 4.0! While it's not only impossible to find any evidence for such a version, Microsoft clearly says "Visual Studio 97 is the first version of a suite of tools from Microsoft." (MSDN Library, TechEd 97 Conference Papers)

 * In "Visual Studio 97 is the first version of a suite of tools", the version reference must be (in other words, my interpretation is) to the tools, not Visual Studio. Sam Tomato (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

I guess there's some confusion with the version numbers of the language products (e.g. Visual C++ 4.2) and the integrated environment "Developer Studio".

 * Yes, Visual C++ was never an IDE. I had Microsoft C/C++ prior to Visual Studio. I believe that you are correct that the predecessor to Visual Studio was Developer's Studio. I still have the CD-ROMs and I have the first beta copy of the MSDN. I will check when I can. The history currently says "Prior to Visual Studio Version 4.0, there were Visual Basic 3, Visual C++, Visual FoxPro and Visual SourceSafe as separate products.". that is misleading, none of those were IDEs. I will correct that when I have verified my memory from actual Microsoft information. Sam Tomato (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Ed 79.224.218.207 (talk) 14:51, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Visual Studio 97 was not "Microsoft's first attempt at using the same development environment for multiple languages". The predecessor to Visual Studio was. Sam Tomato (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Version 6.0
Das Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 wurde von Microsoft entwickelt fuer die Betriebssysteme der Jahre 1998 bis 2000 Windows 98, Windows NT, Windows ME, Windows 2000.

Das 1998 veröffentlichte Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 war eine Sammlung der Programmiersprachen Visual Basic 6.0, Visual C++ 6.0, Visual J++ und den Programmiersprachenanwendungen Visual InterDev (ASP Webapplikationsentwicklung), Visual FoxPro.

„Visual J++“ wurde nach dieser Version (aber in der teuersten Version Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise III/1999 noch in Deutschland verkauft) eingestellt. Sun hatte die Weiterentwicklung verboten. Visual FoxPro wurde nach dieser Version getrennt weiterentwickelt und ist nicht mehr Bestandteil von Visual Studio nach der Version 6, da die wenigsten Visual-Studio-Kunden auch Visual-FoxPro-Programmierer sind.

Neben der Programmierumgebung selbst sind noch diverse Tools zur Unterstützung des Entwicklers bzw. zur Erweiterung von Team-Arbeits-Funktionen integriert. Einige wichtige Module sind die MSDN-Library als eingebundene kontextsensitive Online-Hilfe, „DDE Spy“, „Spy++“ und der Verpackungs- und Weitergabe-Assistent.

Durch das integrierte Microsoft Visual SourceSafe ist es mehreren Personen möglich, gleichzeitig an zentralen Projekten zu arbeiten. Visual SourceSafe erledigt Aufgaben wie Versionsmanagement, Dateisperren und dergleichen. Es gibt allerdings zahlreiche Visual-Studio-AddIns anderer Anbieter, mit denen alternative Versionskontrollsysteme wie Subversion oder CVS auf ähnlich einfache Weise verwendet werden können.

Durch Verwendung der ActiveX-Technik ist die Entwicklungsumgebung als solche erweiterbar, die hierfür notwendigen Module werden als AddIns bezeichnet.

In der Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 Enterprise Version war die MSDN Textbibliothek und Codebibliothek auf 2 CDs beigelegt. Die Entwicklungsumgebung zusammen mit den Programmiersprachen umfasste 4 CDs und die fuenfte CD war die fuer die Programmiersprache Visual J++.

http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microsoft_Visual_Studio&action=edit&section=4

Microsoft Visual Studio 6.0 (Enterprise edition)
The next version, version 6.0, was released in June 1998 and is the last version to run on the Windows 9x platform. The version numbers of all of its constituent parts also moved to 6.0, including Visual J++ which jumped from 1.1, and Visual InterDev which was at 1.0. This version was the basis of Microsoft's development system for the next four years, as Microsoft transitioned their development focus to the .NET Framework.

Visual Studio 6.0 was the last version to include the COM-based version of Visual Basic; subsequent versions would include the version of the language based on .NET. It was also the last version to include Visual J++, which was removed as part of a settlement with Sun Microsystems that required Microsoft to stop producing programming tools that targeted the Java Virtual Machine.

Visual Basic, Visual C++, and Visual FoxPro had separate IDEs, while Visual J++ and Visual InterDev shared a common new environment. This new IDE was designed with extensibility in mind, and would go on (after several internal revisions) to become the common environment for all languages with the release of Visual Studio .NET. Visual Studio 6.0 was also the last version to include Visual FoxPro.

As usual, Visual Studio 6.0 came in several editions: Standard, Professional & Enterprise. The Enterprise edition contains extra features not found in Standard or Professional edition, which includes: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microsoft_Visual_Studio&action=edit&section=14 82.109.84.114 (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Application Performance Explorer
 * Automation Manager
 * Microsoft Visual Modeler
 * RemAuto Connection Manager
 * Visual Studio Analyzer

Microsoft Macro Assembler
I have been working in the Microsoft Macro Assembler page and it is starting to have some reliable content. It has been a component of the Visual Studio development environment since the processor pack dated 2000 and should be added to this page. I have not edited the current page as there are considerations in terms of its content and layout that I am not familiar with.

Hutch48 (talk) 11:44, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Helpful reference information for users
As the history of this page evidences, people are interested in more than basic product information when reading articles like this. Maybe a good way to provide that information, without compromising Wikipedia policy, is to add links to sites like [MSDN] and [StackOverflow] at the bottom of the article? LarsKemmann (talk) 15:22, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I agree. I also think it needs a table of versions numbers. It is confusing enough that VS2010 is version 10 (from which a lot of people extrapolate that VS2008 was version 8). However, the confusion with the file version numbers had me pulling my hair out (since VS2003 the file format version numbers have been one more than the product version number!?!@#$!). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.41.222.1 (talk) 01:15, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Cool Section

 * This IT page needs many inputs.

First of all, it should compare various versions of the tool and show main features in a table for the programmers to review.

122.169.93.238 (talk) 07:31, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you mean comparing different versions (e.g., VS6, VS2002 ".NET", VS2008, VS2010...) or different editions (e.g., Express, Professional, Ultimate...)? The former is currently handled by the different sections which talk about the product, and since that kind of comparison is mostly for historical interest, it makes sense to write it in prose.  The latter is already in the article.  What is the value of comparing different versions' features over time in a table?  Maybe a small summary table would be helpful? --LarsKemmann (talk) 15:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

C# in "Written in" field
Someone recently removed C# from the written in field. Due to the code editor using WPF now and the lack of external XAML files, according to information on MSDN it is impossible for them not to be using at least some C#, if only in the AssemblyInfo.cs of a resource-holding DLL. Washington Irving Esquire (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * That looks like Original Research to me; even less than that. Such contents are not allowed in Wikipedia. In Wikipedia, everything must come from a reliable source. Complex and controversial conclusions like this are not allowed, especially given the fact that you have assumed too much for granted. Fleet Command (talk) 17:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think my statement required any assumption as the MSDN page makes it clear that a C# DLL is necessary to implement WPF in C++. I'm not going to argue about it though, I'm not the one that originally added C# to that field and so I don't really care either way, was just stating a thought. Washington Irving Esquire (talk) 18:07, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

VS 2010, Visual Studio Shell, partner edition
Is there a 2010 version of "Visual Studio Shell" (2008) aka "Visual Studio Premier Partner Edition" (2005)? I haven't found anything, so I'm thinking they may have dropped this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.206.162.148 (talk) 05:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 * There is one. See: "http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb129445%28v=VS.100%29.aspx"  Fleet Command (talk) 06:29, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Web-browsing
I know that some things in Microsoft Visual Studio use other objects from Windows.

The web browser uses Internet Explorer to run Internet (Microsoft Web Browser uses a type of Internet that does not use the computer theme unless its Windows Classic. The web browser is used in all of the Visual Studio tools. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WiiRocks566 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Visual Studio Express is Trialware, not Freeware
This needs to be separately verified: Visual Studio 2010 Express has a 30 day trial period for the product. I'm not sure what the status of earlier versions of Visual Studio Express is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.89.251.67 (talk) 20:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Visual Studio Team System part
The part about Visual Studio Team System is quite messed up and confusing according to what information is possible to get from MS pages. First - Team System is not an edition itself (although put like that in the article), which is not emphasised. Secondly, Team System offers 4 self-standing editions, one suite and a server product (VS Team Suite, VS Team Foundation Server (TFS), VS Team Edition for Software Architects, VS Team Edition for Software Developers, VS Team Edition for Database Professionals, VS Team Edition for Software Testers). VS Team Suite is a bundle of three products itself (VS Team Architect Edition, VS Team Developer Edition and VS Team Test Edition). The names of products in this section of article are inaccurate and might be misleading. Athae (talk) 11:31, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Visual Studio 11 doesn't produce XP-compatible executables
Programs built with Visual Studio 11 don't run on Windows XP. This is because the C runtime library hard-links to the FlsAlloc series of functions and GetTickCount64.

It'd be nice to mention that 2010 is the last version to support targeting XP, but it's original research of mine. -- Myria (talk) 05:34, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Disagree. How do you know it is not a bug that will be fixed in production release? Besides, you should realize this is not how Wikipedia works. You require a reliable source to say such thing in the article. For more information, see Verifiability. Fleet Command (talk) 11:09, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The code in the C runtime library in 8.0-10.0 that automatically detected and used FlsAlloc if present was removed in 11.0, instead hard-linking to FlsAlloc. It looks very intentional.  I posted it here instead of just editing the article in the hopes that someone would know a reliable source that has this information. Myria (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
 * This is the closest I've found to a Microsoft acknowledgement that programs built with Visual Studio 11 won't run on Windows XP: http://connect.microsoft.com/VisualStudio/feedback/details/690617/bug-apps-created-with-crt-and-mfc-vnext-11-cannot-be-used-on-windows-xp-sp3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Myria (talk • contribs) 21:14, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Looks like the issue only applies to Microsoft Foundation Class Library, not the whole C++ language. (Oh, good, I never use MFC.) But your source is good enough, since it is a Microsoft spokesperson who said that. You may add it to the article. However, situation might quickly change. Be sure to add that it is only the case in pre-beta stage. Fleet Command (talk) 10:08, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It looks like that only applies to MFC/CRT. I would imagine that managed apps written in C# and VB.NET continue to work even on Win XP.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 10:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Correct. And this is just the case with pre-beta (developers preview) stage. Fleet Command (talk) 09:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Visual Studio 2012
Visual Studio is being refereed to as Visual Studio 2011 and Visual Studio 2012. This should be fixed to so that they all say 2012. Microsoft's website refers to it only as Visual Studio 2012. --Jimv1983 (talk) 19:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Visual Studio 2012 edits
In this sentence: Visual Studio 2012 Beta was released on February 1, 2012 and can be downloaded from the product's home page.

The release date was February 29, 2012 (at the time, the product name was Visual Studio 11 Beta) and the product's current home page is http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11 (ref: Visual Studio 11 Beta Announcement). The old link was for Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview, which released at BUILD on September 14, 2011 (ref: Visual Studio 11 Developer Preview Announcement) to MSDN Subscribers, and then two days later to the general public.

Rob (talk) 21:47, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: With 4 days and 10 edits you should be able to correct it. You could also ask at help desk. I am just clearing the backlog of requests.--Canoe1967 (talk) 10:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Visual studio 2012 is already available for download
You should correct the release date for VS2012 and add it to the table. The reference for this is: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/somasegar/archive/2012/08/15/visual-studio-2012-and-net-4-5-now-available.aspx. You can download VS2012 and .net4.5 from http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/downloads#vs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.241.139.34 (talk) 09:14, 16 August 2012 (UTC) Why has no one updated the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maciekpak (talk • contribs) 15:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

VS 2012 screenshot
Since VS2012 is practically out, the screenshot at the top of article needs to be from it, instead of 2010 (so at least it would be compatible with the 2012 that already appears over there) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.130.94 (talk) 11:13, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

VS 12 different Editions
the table is out-dated, it should be updated according to this http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/11/en-us/products/compare 175.143.250.227 (talk) 15:14, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

latest preview version : Visual studio 2013
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/apps/bg182409 http://www.microsoft.com/visualstudio/eng/2013-downloads — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.42.164.165 (talk) 17:06, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've updated the release information. drewmunn talk 18:10, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

C99 standard
Article seems to lack which standards that are supported. This is essential atleast for the C-laguage. Do any of the more recent versions support the C99 standard (including the new type of dynamical memory allocation). 83.249.160.230 (talk) 23:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

The picture of VS2013 Enterprise edition
I don't know there is an "Enterprise" edition for Visual studio 2013... There's "professional", "premium","ultimate"... Lbobrov (talk) 21:04, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks for the tip. I checked. You seem to be right. I put the file up for speedy deletion per WP:CSD. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 00:37, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Visual Studio "14" links

 * http://blogs.msdn.com/b/visualstudioalm/archive/2014/06/04/visual-studio-14-ctp-now-available-in-the-virtual-machine-azure-gallery.aspx (CTP now available)

 * http://blogs.msdn.com/b/vcblog/archive/2014/06/18/crt-features-fixes-and-breaking-changes-in-visual-studio-14-ctp1.aspx (run-time library changes)

Built-in languages
The preamble states that C is a built-in language. I don't think that this is correct. Support for a C-library (C99) does not mean that the C-language can be compiled or is supported in other ways. It only means that other languages can use functions provided by this library. --O. Jacot-Descombes (talk) 19:30, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

 * Here is an MSDN page describing how to compile C programs using Visual Studio tools. There is also the C Language Reference on the same site. Seems like C is supported. --Mark viking (talk) 19:38, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

What about that '95 version in the history table?
Hey guys,

the discussion (/talk) page of the German article states since now three years (!) a seeming proof that there was no Visual Studio 95 or "Visual Studio" with internal 4.0 number.

A user there (Ed) quotes Microsoft: "Visual Studio 97 is the first version of a suite of tools from Microsoft."

IF YOU CAN NOT PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF VISUAL STUDIO 4.0 PLEASE CONSIDER TAKING IT OFF THE LIST. Not screaming.

Thanks. -- Enrico — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.32.83.208 (talk) 14:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Microsoft Visual Studio Community Edition
I tried installing this program but stopped at the point where it requires registration. It cannot be used without registering.

Here's the relevant section of the license agreement: DATA. The software may prompt you from time to time to obtain a license key, such as by signing into a Microsoft account. If you do not obtain and enter a new license key when prompted, you may not be able to use the software and access your data in the software. The software may collect information about you and your use of the software, and send that to Microsoft. Microsoft may use this information to provide services and improve our products and services. You may opt-out of many of these scenarios, but not all, as described in the product documentation.

The term "Community Edition" is misleading - it's really a full trial edition for 30 days, and then a restricted edition. It's bait and switch marketing. It would be good if the article mentioned this.

Mtj (talk) 18:14, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello,

 * The article already mentions that the app is registerware. (See infobox.) The problem starts with the third paragraph of your message above: You need a source that clearly says after 30 days, which features are unavailable.

 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

You do realize that it's trial ware, don't you? That's what the 'from time to time" in the EULA means. Microsoft are being silent on what features are lost after 30 days. Why put the burden on us to do research so as to name the lost features? I think the infobox needs to be edited to say that it is both register ware and trial ware.

Mtj (talk) 21:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

 * Here is our policy before you try anything rash: A source is required. Original research is forbidden. Personal interpretation of the source to advance a positions not explicitly mentioned in the source, is also forbidden.
 * Also, it is "trialware" not "trail ware"! And "Microsoft" is singular, not plural.
 * —Codename Lisa (talk) 22:10, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Let's address the trial ware issue first, and leave the article to later. Do you agree that it is trial ware or don't you? Have you tried downloading it, and seen the registration screen?

Mtj (talk) 22:43, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
 * I've been using it throughout February to complete a "Know It! Prove It!" course that Microsoft is hosting. I haven't noticed a feature decline yet.

 * When I installed it, I noticed I have 30 days to activate the product before it stops working. I did so. The activation was free of charge.
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 07:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Good. Now we're talking. I couldn't get it going without accepting the trial offer. I suspect that you just accepted the trial offer without looking too closely at it, since you intended to install it anyway. I didn't want to proceed without knowing what was on trial and what wasn't, so I declined the offer. Which means I can't use it. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's trial ware.

Mtj (talk) 12:53, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

 * You suspect wrong. Installing Visual Studio was part of the training. I was forced to look closely. Plus, I usually pay much attention to details.
 * There is no trial offer. There is a 30-days timer for getting a license; only for Community edition this license is free. That's what we call "Registerware". Are you sure you have downloaded the Community edition?
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 15:29, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes - I did choose the community edition. It offered me features, and I chose them, then it downloaded them, then it came up with the license agreement. Perhaps I was choosing features that aren't included in the community edition, so it offered me a trial license instead of a registration.

Are you saying that you were able to get it going without having to agree to anything up front? Not even register it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mtj (talk • contribs) 16:41, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Requesting update to Application Lifecycle Management
Hello, my name is Doug Erickson and I am an employee of Microsoft working the Cloud+Enterprise division. I am currently correcting and cleaning up topics related to Microsoft Visual Studio Team Services and our ALM products to better represent the current state and features of the products. Please review the changes below and let me know if they are acceptable to you, and thank you for your consideration!

I would like to edit the "Application Lifecycle Management" section to the text below.

DougE MSFT (talk) 05:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done
 * Hello,

 * Before I start, thank you for coming here. I must say it is good to see that Microsoft employees are starting to take COI seriously. Still, the template you should have used is Edit request, not Edit-request. If you had previewed your message, you'd have seen it.

 * Now, I am afraid your suggested contribution has the following problems, four of them are blocking issues:
 * "In Visual Studio 2005 and Visual Studio 2008 the brand was known" was changed into "Between 2005 and 2008, the brand was known as". This is only and only correct if Microsoft has later issued an update for VS2005 and VS2008 to eliminate the name (as it did to Windows Essentials and Microsoft Office to eliminate "SkyDrive") and the general public has chiefly stopped using the term. Both needs a supporting source.
 * You have not explained why you removed this sentence: "These tools include IDEs, source control, work items, collaboration, metrics, and reporting tools." We cannot remove content without an edit summary.
 * "VSALM" does not appear in your source. We cannot accept inventive acronyms. "ALM" appears in the old source.
 * "other products" is a weasel word. What other products? Either name them or never even imply that there are others.

 * Non-blocking issues:
 * You have placed  before punctuation. Wikipedia MOS requires them to be after punctuation.

 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 17:21, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

 * Thank you for the specific and targeted feedback! I'm a newbie here and I appreciate the clear responses. I have made an update and (I hope) have addressed my mistakes.

 * Here is my edit summary:

 * Changed "These tools include IDEs, source control, work items, collaboration, metrics, and reporting tools" to "These tools currently consist of the IDE (Visual Studio 2015 Community and greater editions), a server product (Team Foundation Server), and cloud services (Visual Studio Team Services)" to clarify the three major products for delivery of the ALM tools. Added a citation from ArsTechnica.
 * Added "VSALM supports team-based development and collaboration, Agile project management, DevOps, source control, packaging, continuous development, automated testing, release management, continuous delivery, and reporting tools for apps and services." to break out the list of scenarios covered across the VSALM collection of tools, as well as to reflect what is currently on the cited MSDN page. Moved the earlier MSDN citation here for clarity.

 * Hearing your counsel, I reverted your other concerns, such as the "between 2005 and 2008" change. I am also reverting back to "VSALM" although that is not an acronym we formally use in marketing, as I acknowledge that it may have prevalence in the community that I am not aware of, and thus should let the community decide.

 * DougE MSFT (talk) 22:54, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 23:02, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * I have implemented your request with a few changes:
 * VSALM is removed. As I told you, it does not appear in the source! (Of course, your original request didn't have VSALM; it only lacked the old source that said "ALM"!) In this revision, you retained the old source but also reverted to VSALM.
 * Ars Technica citation corrected. You had by mistake added "Ars Technica" in publisher parameter while it should go into work. The publisher is Condé Nast.
 * work parameter was added to Brian Harry's and Octavie van Haaften's blogs.
 * Two of the paragraphs were appended to their predecessor because of their contextual similarity.
 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 23:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 23:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

SQL Server
I am having difficulty determining what version of SQL Server is installed with Visual Studio 2015 Community Version. It would help if that information was provided for each version of Visual Studio. SQL Server is mentioned a few times relevant to what is supported but there is nothing about what is included. Sam Tomato (talk) 19:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

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"15" Preview 4
I have updated the main text for the latest release Preview 4.

But it is not obvious how to fix the page template, currently stuck on Preview 3.

I'd welcome helpful suggestions.

NoPolymath (talk) 22:23, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Hi. :) You should click on the [±] link. You'll be taken to the page where the information is located. Consider studying Template:Infobox software for more information. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 06:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Requesting edits to the Introduction section for Microsoft Visual Studio
Hi my name is Billy Learned and I would like to submit an addition to this page for the Introduction section directly above the Architecture section for Microsoft Visual Studio.

Thank you very much!

Microsoft Visual Studio product family is a collection of developer-focused tools, services, and subscription programs from Microsoft. It is made up of an integrated development environment (IDE), code editor, and software as a service (SaaS) based offerings to support developing, testing, building, and deploying software applications across the Android, Linux, iOS, Mac and Windows operating systems. Some of the tools and services offered in this collection are the Visual Studio IDE (for PC), Visual Studio for Mac (IDE), Visual Studio Code, Visual Studio Team Services, and Visual Studio Mobile Center. Developers can gain access through the free Visual Studio Dev Essentials program and/or via the paid Visual Studio Subscriptions.

The Visual Studio IDE is an integrated development environment (IDE) from Microsoft. It is used to develop computer programs for Microsoft Windows, as well as web sites, web applications and web services. Visual Studio uses Microsoft software development platforms such as Windows API, Windows Forms, Windows Presentation Foundation, Windows Store and Microsoft Silverlight. It can produce both native code and managed code.

The Visual Studio IDE includes a code editor supporting IntelliSense (the code completion component) as well as code refactoring. The integrated debugger works both as a source-level debugger and a machine-level debugger. Other built-in tools include a forms designer for building GUI applications, web designer, class designer, and database schema designer. It accepts plug-ins that enhance the functionality at almost every level—including adding support for source control systems (like Subversion) and adding new toolsets like editors and visual designers for domain-specific languages or toolsets for other aspects of the software development lifecycle (like the Team Foundation Server client: Team Explorer).

The Visual Studio IDE supports different programming languages and allows the code editor and debugger to support (to varying degrees) nearly any programming language, provided a language-specific service exists. Built-in languages include C, C++ and C++/CLI (via Visual C++), VB.NET (via Visual Basic .NET), C (via Visual C), and F (as of Visual Studio 2010 ). Support for other languages such as Python, ). Support for other languages such as Python, Ruby, Node.js, and M among others is available via language services installed separately. It also supports XML/XSLT, HTML/XHTML, JavaScript and CSS. Java (and J#) were supported in the past.

Microsoft provides a free version of Visual Studio called the Community edition that supports plugins and is available at no cost for all users.

Bdlearned (talk) 03:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done:. This contribution is an attempt to hijack the topic. This article is about Visual Studio the IDE. You are attempt to hijack it for a the topic of Visual Studio the brand name, which you call "product family". The problem is Visual Studio the IDE is a notable topic. Visual Studio the brand name is not. Even if it were notable, anyone in Wikipedia is still allowed to write an article on a notable topic (like Visual Studio the IDE) and nobody is allowed to hijack that topic.
 * Co-branding is an advertisement tactic and while we might covert it in the article for the sake of accuracy (we have a small section on Visual Studio Code and other VS-branded apps) Wikipedia is not a Microsoft division and is not obliged to change its perspective whenever Microsoft saw fit to do for making more money, acceptance, etc.
 * Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 07:12, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

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What is "Git Control"?
Sub section Visual Studio Code: What is the meaning of "Git Control"? Should it just be "Git source control"? --Mortense (talk) 17:15, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

TODO - Hardware/Software Requirement summary table
I think it would be useful adding a table with the software and hardware requirement for each version (minimal and recommanded). Manta Ray DeeJay (talk) 16:31, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

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Does MS stop all feature/bug updates when it releases a new version of VS? (because it seems that way)
It's always seemed to me whatever bugs exist in VS X are deemed "won't fix" the day after VS "Y" is published. I mean does it do any good to report bugs on past versions of VS? I would like a section with a heading on the release philosophy and rationale for leaving features unfinished (e.g. C++ standards that are partially implemented) forever instead of back-porting simple fixes/omissions, or is this just my imagination? --184.20.10.253 (talk) 20:19, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

For bugfix, no, because at least VS 2017 still have some tooling version updates and bug fix, one is even released when you started this topic. New features definitely don't get backported to the older version, and if you consider the C++ standards support as unfinished, then it definitely never going to be finished any time soon. However, the lack of backporting is rather irrelevant for most users, open-source and indie dev can just easily get the latest version, while corporates are expected to just renew the subscriptions that give them access to all supported versions. I don't see much discussion on the lack of backporting on other mainstream software, it's either expected and exist, or it doesn't and people don't fuss about it.Martheencp (talk) 10:20, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Community Editions vs. Express Editions
First contribution to Wikipedia. I've used, as a hobbyist programmer, Visual Studio for several years, and I believe that all the Express editions are no longer supported, and the only reference to them is this article should be historical in nature. I use the Community editions and am sure the following statements are true: 1. They are free for many/most users. 2. They are fully featured editions. 3. They are NOT trial products. 4. Many (perhaps all) year-labeled editions can be installed side-by-side. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geezzeer (talk • contribs) 19:06, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Page name: I noticed that the Japanese page says: Microsoft Visual Studio, but the English title says: Visual Studio
Hello, I am an infrequent contributor to Wiki, but a regular reader. As the section title says... Honestly, it seems like the Japanese title is more accurate, especially from search engines. Thoughts? Kevinarpe (talk) 16:25, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

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Belle de Jour

Belle de Jour may refer to:

 * Belle de Jour (novel), a 1928 novel by French writer Joseph Kessel
 * Belle de Jour (film), 1967 film by Luis Buñuel, based upon the book
 * Belle de Jour (writer), a pen name of Brooke Magnanti
 * Belle de Jour (character), a character in the television series Secret Diary of a Call Girl, based on one of Magnanti's books
 * "Belle de Jour", a song on the album Grace for Drowning by Steven Wilson.

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Southwest Baptist University

Southwest Baptist University (SBU) is a private Baptist university in Bolivar, Missouri. It is affiliated with the Missouri Baptist Convention, which is part of the Southern Baptist Convention. In 2023, it had a total enrollment of 2,168 students enrolled.

History
Abner S. Ingman and James R. Maupin founded Southwest Baptist College in 1878 in Lebanon, Missouri. The Lebanon campus originally had an enrollment of 60 students and six faculty. The college lasted one year before the city decided it no longer wanted it. When news got out that the college would be moving, the communities of Aurora, Monett, and Bolivar in southwest Missouri attempted to attract the college. In 1879, the state of Missouri chartered the school and it moved to Bolivar, Missouri. The college went through many financial difficulties in the early part of the twentieth century.

On June 1, 1910, at 11:00 am., the fire that would destroy the campus started. The fire broke out under suspect circumstances, leading some to believe arson was the cause. Bolivar citizen firefighters tried to put out the fire, but the water supply ran dry and at 2:00 pm the fire engulfed the whole campus. Losses were estimated at $20,000. The college was rebuilt, and reopened in 1913.

Southwest Baptist University was granted an exception to Title IX in 2015, allowing the school to legally discriminate against LGBT students for religious reasons.

In November 2021 its accreditor, the Higher Learning Commission, placed it on probation for being in noncompliance on criteria related to governance, academic freedom, and effective leadership. In November 2023, the Higher Learning Commission took the University off of probation and restated their accredidation. https://www.hlcommission.org/component/directory/?Action=ShowBasic&Itemid=&instid=1465

Campus history
When it reopened in 1913 as a junior college, Southwest Baptist College consisted of four buildings, two of which still stand on the Stufflebaum campus. Among the buildings still standing from the original Stufflebam campus are Casebolt Apartments (formerly Casebolt Science Building) and Memorial Hall.

On March 26, 1962, a fire destroyed Pike Auditorium. Students and townspeople saved eight pianos and almost all of the sports equipment from the locker rooms of the multipurpose building at that time. Pike Auditorium was the only building destroyed by the fire. The fire became a turning point in the history of Southwest Baptist. The newly elected president, Robert E. Craig, used the event to stimulate the buying of 102 acre of farmland south of Bolivar. This farmland expanded into the Shoffner Campus on which Southwest Baptist University resides today.

The Shoffner campus, located approximately a quarter-mile south of Stufflebaum campus, was first used in 1962 with the opening of Beasley Hall. Within ten years, Landen Hall (formerly New Men's Dorm), Leslie Hall, the Goodson Student Union, and the Wayne and Betty Gott Educational Center (formerly the campus library) were opened. In 1977, Mellers Dining Commons was opened, adjoining the Goodson Student Union.

In 1981, the Gene Taylor National Free Enterprise Center was opened to facilitate the College of Business and Computer Science. This was the same year in which Southwest Baptist College became Southwest Baptist University. In 1989, the Sells Administrative Building was completed to accommodate the growing administrative department of Southwest Baptist University.

In 1992, the Wheeler Science Center opened, giving the science department a facility capable of housing hundreds of students. The school of Physical Therapy was located in this building until it moved to a nearby, offsite location.

In 1995, SBU agreed with St. John's School of Nursing, a traditionally Catholic institution, to form St. John's School of Nursing of Southwest Baptist University located in Springfield, Missouri. It has since been renamed the Mercy College of Nursing and Health Sciences of Southwest Baptist University.

The Wayne and Betty Gott Educational Center was renovated in 1998 to accommodate classroom needs. The campus library moved to what is now the Jester Learning and Performance Center, and was renamed the Harriet K. Hutchens Library, which opened in 1996. The rest of the Jester Learning and Performance Center was completed in 2001. It currently houses the Davis-Newport Theater, the Department of Language and Literature, the Department of Art and the Bob R. Derryberry School of Communication Arts.

The most recent addition to the Shoffner campus is the Jane and Ken Meyer Wellness and Sports Center. It opened to students in January 2005. This facility houses an indoor track, intramural gym, fitness center, pool, café, racquetball courts, rock wall, and Hammons Court, the home of Bearcat Basketball.

Presidents
Presidents listed in chronological order.

 * 1) James R. Maupin (1878–1884)
 * 2) Abner S. Ingman (1884–1886)
 * 3) Julius M. Leavitt (1886–1889)
 * 4) W. H. Burnham (1889–1892)
 * 5) Robert E. L. Burks (1892–1895)
 * 6) Asa Bush (1895–1897)
 * 7) James R. Rice (1897–1899)
 * 8) Ernest W. Dow (1903–1905)
 * 9) Joseph Rucker (1905–1908)
 * 10) J. E. Austin (1908–1913)
 * 11) Charles W. Fisher (1913–1915)
 * 12) B. W. Wiseman (1915–1916)
 * 13) John C. Pike (1916–1928)
 * 14) John W. Jent (1928–1930)
 * 15) Courts Redford (1930–1943)
 * 16) Samuel H. Jones (1943–1948)
 * 17) John W. Dowdy (1949–1960)
 * 18) Robert E. Craig (1961–1967)
 * 19) James L. Sells (1968–1979)
 * 20) Harlan E. Spurgeon (1979–1983)
 * 21) Charles L. Chaney (1983–1986)
 * 22) J. Edwin Hewlett Jr. (1989–1990)
 * 23) Wayne Gott (Interim) (1991–1992)
 * 24) Roy Blunt (1993–1996)
 * 25) C. Pat Taylor (1996–2018)
 * 26) Eric A. Turner (2018–2020)
 * 27) Brad Johnson (Interim) (2020-2021)
 * 28) Richard J. Melson (2021–Present)

Academics
Southwest Baptist University Colleges include:
 * Robert W. Plaster College of Business
 * College of Professional Programs
 * College of Health Professions
 * Geneva Casebolt College of Arts & Sciences

Buildings

 * Casebolt Music Center and Casebolt Apartments – named after Geneva Casebolt, a benefactor who gave a large endowment for the buildings.
 * Davis Family Physical Therapy Center – houses the Doctor of Physical Therapy program.
 * Felix Goodson Student Union – named after a former dean of students.
 * Gene Taylor National Free Enterprise Center  – named in honor of former Missouri Congressman Gene Taylor.
 * Hammons Center for Facilities Excellence – named after Dwain Hammons and his wife, Donna, who gifted SBU with the property this building is located.
 * Harriett K. Hutchens Library – named in honor of Harriett K. Hutchens, who gave a generous donation.
 * Jane and Ken Meyer Wellness and Sports Center/ Meyer Hall – named in honor of the Meyers who were benefactors for this and other projects.
 * Jester Learning and Performance Center – named in honor of Bill Jester who stepped in after the project had to be reorganized after the passing of Sam Walton.
 * Jim Mellers Center – named in honor of donor in 1980s who owned a photography shop and later received a patent for a photography related idea.
 * Killian Health Center – named in honor of Bob and Betty Killian, owners of Killian Construction Company.
 * Mabee Chapel – named after the J.E. and L.E. Mabee Foundation.
 * Marietta Mellers Dining Commons – named in honor of the wife of Jim Mellers.
 * McClelland Dining Facility – capable of hosting banquets and conferences.
 * Plaster Athletic Center/ Plaster Stadium/ Plaster Hall – named in honor of benefactor Robert W. Plaster.
 * Randolph Meditation Chapel – open 24 hours a day.
 * Jim Sells Administrative Center – named in honor of Jim Sells who served as president for 11 years (1968–1979) and as Chancellor (1979-1992).
 * Wayne and Betty Gott Educational Center/ Gott Hall – Wayne and Betty Gott are two of the largest donors to SBU.
 * Wheeler Science Center – named in honor of Clarence Wheeler who gave a large donation for the building and scholarships.
 * Beasley Hall – named in honor of Titus Beasley who gave the lead gift for this hall.
 * Landen Hall – named in honor of Edward and Daisy Landen for "devotion to their church, the Southern Baptist Convention and to Christian higher education"
 * Leslie Hall
 * Memorial Hall – named in honor of the ten students from SBU who served in World War II.
 * Roseman Apartments – named in honor of the Roseman family who previously owned the complex.
 * Woody Hall – named in honor of Jessie Lee Woody, a donor towards the project.

Athletics

Southwest Baptist University athletic teams compete in the NCAA Division II Great Lakes Valley Conference (GLVC). SBU previously competed in the Mid-America Intercollegiate Athletic Association (MIAA) until in the spring of 2019 and will begin regular season competition for all sports in the GLVC beginning in the 2019–20 season. The university currently fields 18 NCAA Division II varsity sports. SBU was also one of the first schools to establish a varsity collegiate esports team and is a charter member of the Collegiate Esports Association (CESPA ). SBU added a Cheer and STUNT team beginning in the 2018–19 season.

Notable alumni

 * Buddy Baker, film composer, best known for his long relationship and extensive work with the Walt Disney Company.
 * Roy Blunt, Republican senator for the State of Missouri (former president of university)
 * Ben M. Bogard, founder of the American Baptist Association
 * Rod Jetton, former Speaker and Republican member of the Missouri House of Representatives
 * Darrin Patrick, former pastor of The Journey church and former teaching pastor at Seacoast Church
 * Shane Schoeller, Republican member of the Missouri House of Representatives and Republican candidate in the Missouri secretary of state election, 2012

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Deepdene (diamond)

The Deepdene is a 104.52 carat yellow diamond widely considered to be the largest irradiated diamond in the world.

Origin of the name
The Deepdene gets its name from the Pennsylvania estate of Margaret Adams Plummer, wife of Curtis Bok, both the diamond's original owners. At the time, the Deepdene weighed slightly more at 104.88 carat and was mounted in a diamond clip. Harry Winston bought the diamond from the Boks in 1954 and it eventually found its way to a London firm in 1960 and later to a German owner.

Irradiation scandal
On 27 May 1971, Christie's auction house in Geneva offered to prospective buyers the cushion-cut, fancy golden-yellow diamond which would only later come to be known as the "Deepdene". Its clarity was stated as VVS1 (with two very small imperfections near the girdle or midsection of the stone) and its vivid-yellow colour was guaranteed to be natural by both the German gemological institute and the University of Mainz.

However, Eduard Gübelin, the founder of Gübelin Gem Lab in Lucerne, Switzerland, had the opportunity to inspect the diamond before the auction took place. Gübelin's experience with examining gemstones and recognizing artificially colored diamonds led him to declare that the Deepdene had been irradiated, likely by neutron bombardment. Gübelin warned Christie's and any buyers who would listen, but the sale was allowed to continue with the recommendation that the stone be examined by another lab.

After being sold to jewelers Van Cleef & Arpels for a reported £190,000 (about US$460,000 at the time), the Deepdene was sent to the Gem Testing Laboratory in London, England. The lab's director, gemological pioneer Basil Anderson, was given the task of substantiating Gübelin's claims. That he did, using spectral analysis, with damning results. Van Cleef & Arpels promptly returned the stone for a refund, leaving it somewhat of an unwanted orphan. In 1997, Christies auctioned the diamond once again, but listed as an irradiated gem with a substantially lower estimate. It sold to Lawrence Graff of Graff Diamonds, who sold it to famed author Danielle Steel. Its current whereabouts remain uncertain.

Assuming Winston did not have the irradiation treatment done, it could have taken place any time between 1955 (when Winston sold it) and 1971, the year it was offered at auction. The recutting of the gem from 104.88 carat to 104.52 carat was most likely intended to remove the 'umbrella' coloration pattern it had around its culet. This was a common side effect seen in early irradiated diamonds, but irradiation techniques have been improved so that it no longer occurs.

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Dr. Mabuse

Dr. Mabuse is a fictional character created by Norbert Jacques in his 1921 novel Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler ('Dr. Mabuse, the Gambler'), and his 1932 follow-up novel Das Testament des Dr. Mabuse (1932). The character was made famous by three films about the character directed in Germany by Fritz Lang: Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (silent, 1922), The Testament of Dr. Mabuse (1933), and the much later The Thousand Eyes of Dr. Mabuse (1960). Five other films featuring Dr. Mabuse were made by other directors in Germany in the early 1960s, followed by Jess Franco's interpretation The Vengeance of Dr. Mabuse in 1971.

Although the character was deliberately written to mimic villains such as Dr. Fu Manchu, Guy Boothby's Doctor Nikola, Fantômas, or Svengali, the last of which was a direct inspiration, Jacques' goals were commercial success and to make political comments, in much the same way that the film The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) had done just a few years previously.

Much of the Mabuse works are comments by Jacques on German society, in some case, the political excesses of the 1930s.

Description
Dr. Mabuse is a master of disguise and telepathic hypnosis known to employ body transference, most often through demonic possession, but sometimes utilizing object technologies such as television or phonograph machines, to build a "society of crime". Mabuse rarely commits his crimes in person, instead operating primarily through a network of agents enacting his schemes, thus remaining a shadowy figure. Mabuse's agents range from career criminals working for him, to innocents blackmailed or hypnotized into cooperation, to dupes manipulated so successfully that they do not realize that they are doing exactly what Mabuse planned for them to do.

Mabuse's identity often changes; one "Dr. Mabuse" may be defeated and sent to an asylum, jail or the grave, only for a new "Dr. Mabuse" to later appear, as depicted in The Testament of Dr. Mabuse. The replacement invariably has the same methods, the same powers of hypnosis and the same criminal genius. There are even suggestions in some installments of the series that the "real" Mabuse is some sort of spirit that possesses a series of hosts. Mabuse is not a name in the normal sense, more a codename, or an idealogy.

Mabuse has had a number of nemeses, with the main ones including Prosecutor (or Chief Inspector) von Wenk in Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (played by Bernhard Goetzke) and Kommissar Karl Lohmann (played variously by Otto Wernicke and Gert Fröbe as "Inspector Carl Lohemann").

History
Mabuse first appeared in the 1921 German novel Dr. Mabuse, der Spieler ("Dr. Mabuse, the Gambler") by Norbert Jacques. The novel benefitted from unprecedented publicity and quickly became a best-seller. Fritz Lang, already an accomplished director, worked with his wife Thea von Harbou on a revision of the novel to bring it to the screen, where it also became a great success. The film Dr. Mabuse the Gambler (1922), with a playing time of more than four hours, was released in two sections: The Great Gambler: An Image of the Time and Inferno: A Game for the People of our Age.

Despite the success of the novel and the film, it was almost a decade before anything more was done with the character. Jacques had been working on a sequel to the novel, named Mabuse's Colony, in which Mabuse has died and a group of his devotees are starting an island colony, based on the principles described by Mabuse's manifesto. However, the novel was unfinished. After conversations with Lang and von Harbou, Jacques agreed to discontinue the novel and the sequel instead became the 1933 movie The Testament of Dr. Mabuse, in which the Mabuse of 1922 – played again by Rudolf Klein-Rogge – is an inmate in an insane asylum but has for some time been obsessively writing meticulous plans for crime and terrorism, plans that are being performed by a gang of criminals outside the asylum, who receive their orders from a person who has identified himself to them only as Dr. Mabuse.

Stories by Other Writers
Novels

 * The Ancestral Arts of Sophie Wolf series (2023) by author Bernard M Lyons features Dr Mabuse as the chief antagonist in a modern Bamberg.

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IBA

IBA or Iba may refer to:

People

 * Clarence Iba (1909-1997), American basketball coach
 * Erol Iba (born 1979), Indonesian footballer
 * Henry Iba (1904-1993), American basketball coach
 * Moe Iba (born 1939), American basketball coach
 * Itsuki Iba, a fictional character in the Japanese light novel series Rental Magica

Places

 * Iba, Osun State, town in Nigeria
 * Iba, Zambales, municipality in Zambales, Philippines
 * Roman Catholic Diocese of Iba

Organizations

 * Independent Broadcasting Authority, a defunct regulatory body in the United Kingdom
 * Indian Banks' Association
 * Institute of Business Administration (disambiguation)
 * Intercollegiate Biomathematics Alliance
 * International Bank of Asia, a defunct bank in Hong Kong, now Fubon Bank
 * International Bank of Azerbaijan
 * International Bar Association
 * International Bartenders Association, which set out IBA Official Cocktail regulation
 * International Basketball Association
 * International Bear Association aka The International Association for Bear Research and Management
 * International Bodyboarding Association
 * International Boxing Association, sport organization that sanctions amateur boxing
 * International Bryozoology Association
 * International Buddhist Academy
 * Ion Beam Applications, solutions for the diagnosis and treatment of cancer
 * Iron Butt Association
 * Israel Broadcasting Authority, the former Israeli public broadcaster
 * ÍB Akureyri, former Icelandic sports club, abbreviated ÍBA

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 * AAPG Imperial Barrel Award Program
 * iBooks Author, iPad ebook authoring software (usually iBA), IBA can also refer to its file format
 * Important Bird Area
 * Incinerator bottom ash
 * Indole-3-butyric acid - auxin, a plant rooting hormone
 * InfiniBand Architecture
 * Interceptor Body Armor
 * Interest-based advertising
 * Internationale Bauausstellung
 * Ion beam analysis, a set of analytical techniques involving the use of ion beams
 * Isobutyl alcohol, an organic solvent

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Talk:Frank Spangenberg

What exactly is his record that should stand forever? His five day record has been broken in five days, even though Ken won many times after that. I think that still qualifies as breaking the record. -R. fiend 19:51, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Nevermind; changed it. -R. fiend 02:28, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Sourcing
The article needs more sourcing, but it is readily available: http://news.google.com/archivesearch?q=%22Frank+Spangenberg%22+jeopardy&btnG=Search+Archives&ned=us&hl=en THF (talk) 19:08, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Adjusted figures
I removed the adjusted figures because simply doubling Spangenberg's winnings to match clue values post 2001 is not an accurate comparison. It does not take into account risk/reward strategy of betting and assumes that a player who wagered $x,000 in Final Jeopardy in 1990 would wager double $x,000 post 2001.  Sottolacqua  (talk) 13:04, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

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Talk:AQAL

Should this be at AQAL? RickK 19:52, Jul 21, 2004 (UTC)

 * According to Ken Wilber, yes; there's also a lot more info on that page than there is here. -- Hadal 19:55, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Disambiguation of "perspective"
I've removed the link to the disambiguation page, but I am not convinced "visual" is the intended target. I have, in truth, little concept of what this page is trying to tell me. Feel free to correct the redirect - JUST NOT BACK TO THE DISAMBIGUATION PAGE.LeeG 23:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I apologize that the article is unclear. I would appreciate any more specific criticisms that you could offer. I changed the link to cognitive perspective. — goethean ॐ 14:51, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Theory of truth
Wilber's example question given for the upper left quadrant "interior individual" does not serve well: When I tell you it is raining outside, am I telling  you the truth or am I lying? This statement can be tested, and so does not reveal the subjective nature of interior experience. A better question would be "When I tell you I am in pain, am I telling the truth or lying?" which demonstrates that the interior state is not strictly accessible to other observers. --Blainster 20:08, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Critique
Wilber's theory of four quadrants is week in that it leaves out one aspect. Martin Buber speaks about "I-Thou" as the basis of a morality of equals. One could argue that the instrumental value "I-It" is transformed through the recognition of the personhood of the Thou, before the coming of a common understanding "I-We". This is important as it is the basis of Deep Ecology, in the development of what has been called "The Ecological Self". In fact the whole article reads like an apologestics for Wilber at present. John D. Croft 01:18, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It's better to use diagrams to explain AQAL
Like those at

http://www.kheper.net/integral/integral_mandala_and_AQAL.html

http://www.kheper.net/integral/diagrams_of_reality.html

http://www.kheper.net/topics/Wilber/Wilber_IV.html

Also, any description of the application of AQAL is appreciated

I have found some, however the publications from academic journals are preferred

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2006_08/2006_08_edwards.html

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2006_10/2006_10_edwards.html

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2007_01/2007_01_edwards_volckmann_part3.html

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2007_03/2007_03_edwards_volckmann_part4.html

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2007_06/2007-06-edwards-volckmann-dialog.html

http://www.integralleadershipreview.com/archives/2007_06/2007-06-edwards-volckmann-dialog.html

Notability?
Does the topic of this article satisfy WP:N, which requires that the subject has "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"? As it stands, the article does not seem to assert its own notability. Fireplace 04:47, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

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Talk:Lord Mayor of London

List/picture
Where has the list gone, and what's happened to the picture of Robert Finch!? Mintguy (T) 19:53, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * The list is at List of Lord Mayors of London. The picture of the Lord Mayor is surrounded by copyright issues. For one thing, it is not usable under the American fair use doctrine unless the name of the photographer is indicated. -- Emsworth 20:44, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * The image is published on the Corp of London website at http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/media_centre/picture_library.htm where the reader is positively encouraged to download the image. I have not seen any mention before about the American fair use doctrine requiring the identity of the photographer to be known or indicated. It isn't mentioned on Fair use or Wikiedpia:Fair use. Have you asked User:Jdforrester who uploaded the image to investigate the copyright issues? Mintguy (T)

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Title
Since when has the "generally used" title been the Lord Mayor of the City of London? I've never seen this usage outside Wikipedia. The Lord Mayor's Show was on today and throughout he was referred to on the BBC as the Lord Mayor of London. See also this as opposed to this. Nobody in London would get him confused with the Mayor of London. I propose this article be moved back to the commonly used title, which is still Lord Mayor of London. Yes, Lord Mayor of the City of London is apparently now sometimes used, but it's certainly not the common title, which is how we name our articles on Wikipedia. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:26, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Since there has been no response, I have moved the article back to the common title as per normal Wikipedia usage. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:41, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I'd also dispute that the "legal title" has always been simply "Lord Mayor of London". The London Gazette has plenty of references to "the Lord Mayor of the City of London", dating back to 1683. The Corporation may think it's a recent innovation, but it seems clear that the situation is the same as it's always been: legal title includes "the City of", common usage does not. Proteus (Talk) 12:57, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

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Titles and honours
1. Just as the author refers to the plural of 'Lord Provost' as 'Lords Provost', surely the plural of 'Lord Mayor' should be 'Lords Mayor'. The word 'mayor' refers to the fact that the holder is elected/empowered each May and thus describes the type of lord in question. It follows that the plural should be 'Lords Mayor'. This occurs throughout the page. 2. In the first paragraph of the Introduction the phrase "the title and style The Right Honourable the Lord Mayor of London" is used. However, in the first paragraph of this item, this changes to "The Right Honourable Lord Mayor of London" (i.e. without 'the' before 'Lord Mayor of London') which is correct?Haynesta (talk)

Question re plurals
Just wondering... is it “Lord Mayors” or “Lords Mayor” when written in the plural? Blueboar (talk) 16:21, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

A new Lady Mayor
Hello all

Susan Langley will be the next mayor but one (to take the job in autumn 2025). I have amended her entry but I am having to put Lady Mayor followed by a link to the Lord Mayor page. How can we resolve this? Should this page be called simply Mayor of the City of London, or Lord or Lady Mayor of the City of London? Chiefsub68 (talk) 18:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

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Pitch count

In baseball statistics, pitch count is the number of pitches thrown by a pitcher in a game.

Pitch counts are especially a concern for young pitchers, pitchers recovering from injury, or pitchers who have a history of injuries. The pitcher wants to keep the pitch count low to maintain their stamina. Often a starting pitcher will be removed from the game after 100 pitches, regardless of the actual number of innings pitched, as it is reckoned to be the maximum optimal pitch count for a starting pitcher. It is unclear if the specialization and reliance on relief pitchers led to pitch counts, or if pitch counts led to greater use of relievers. Pitch counts are sometimes less of a concern for veteran pitchers, who after years of conditioning are often able to pitch deeper into games. A pitcher's size, stature, athleticism, and pitching style (and/or type of pitch thrown) can also play a role in how many pitches a pitcher can throw in a single game while maintaining effectiveness and without risking injury.

Pitch count can also be used to gauge the effectiveness and efficiency of a pitcher. It is better under most circumstances for a pitcher to use the fewest pitches possible to get three outs. Pitching efficiency is typically measured by pitches per inning or pitches per plate appearance.

Opposing teams also pay attention to pitch counts, and may try to foul off as many pitches as possible (or at least any difficult-to-hit pitches) either to tire the pitcher out, or to inflate the pitch count and drive a pitcher from the game early in favor of a possibly less effective relief pitcher.

Youth limits
Little League has imposed a strict pitch count limit on pitchers. A pitcher must be removed immediately upon the current at-bat or the current half-inning ends, whichever comes first, upon reaching the pitch count per day.

Once a pitcher throws 21 pitches (under 14) or 31 pitches (15–18) in a game, the pitcher must rest and not participate in pitching. Furthermore, pitchers may not be catchers if more than 40 pitches were thrown by the player.

Criticism
Before pitch counts became prominent in the 1980s, a pitcher primarily "pitched until he could no longer get anyone out or the game was over." As pitch counts have become more prominent, pitchers are often removed from games independent of whether or not they are tired or still pitching effectively. The use of pitch counts has been influenced by agents wanting to protect their clients, and organizations wanting to protect investments in their pitchers. This change has shifted the expectations of starting pitchers from pitching complete games to quality starts of six innings instead.

Opponents of the pitch count have argued that the inclusion of the pitch count has hurt pitchers more than it has protected them. Critics of the pitch count argue that pitchers are "babied" and that many of the injuries that pitchers have suffered since the inclusion of the pitch count are from such treatment. Advocates who are against using the pitch count as a metric to measure pitcher performance include Minnesota Twins broadcaster/Hall of Famer Bert Blyleven; Hall of Famer, former Texas Rangers CEO/President, and current Houston Astros executive adviser Nolan Ryan; the late New York Mets Hall of Famer Tom Seaver; and former Florida Marlins manager Jack McKeon. McKeon openly told his pitchers (and the media) that he did not keep a pitch count, and that he expected his pitchers to get into the mindset of completing what they started (i.e., for his starters to pitch a complete game). Ryan's sentiments are similar to McKeon's, declaring that pitch counts are largely frivolous. San Francisco Chronicle sports writer Bruce Jenkins has suggested that a "relief" (i.e. lesser) pitcher should start the game, so that the "starting" (i.e. stronger) pitcher would play the more crucial later innings. This idea would eventually become known as the opener, and began seeing significant usage in 2018.

Rany Jazayerli estimates that two thirds of young starting pitchers from 1999 on are still playing five years later, compared to one of two between 1984 and 1998, and attributes the improvement to greater emphasis on the pitch count. Some argue that pitch counts do not account for easy outings for pitchers with big leads but higher pitch counts or pitchers in constant trouble in a game with lower pitch counts. Others feel the count is a self-fulfilling prophecy, where a pitcher can feel great until learning of his pitch count. However, author Peter Morris noted that "a lot more guys hit 10 homers a season these days", and pitchers need to throw their best stuff more often. "Guys who throw 100 pitches now are working harder than guys who threw 120 pitches a generation ago." Baseball Hall of Fame pitcher Dennis Eckersley said hitters are "bigger, stronger, better, and they hit better. And parks are smaller now, let alone the steroid era." Hitters have also become more selective (making pitchers throw more strikes) to increase their pitch count to get them out of the game earlier. Former pitcher Gene Garber says umpires are calling a smaller strike zone, making it more difficult for pitchers to throw strikes.

Television networks and stations only displayed pitch counts occasionally, with the Boston Red Sox's NESN and New York Yankees's YES being the first to do so within their full on-screen graphics at all times in 2010. ESPN soon followed suit, and as of Opening Day 2014, the Fox Sports regional networks, along with Fox's national package also adopted full-time pitch count displays.

History
Since the 1960s, it has not been common for the starting pitcher to pitch a complete game. According to Baseball Reference pitchers have completed less than 30 percent of their starts every year since 1959. Comparisons with the dead-ball era pre-1920 are misleading, since the pitcher's behavior was very different. Some examples of high pitch count games include a 26-inning game on May 1, 1920 where Leon Cadore of Brooklyn and Joe Oeschger of Boston pitched an estimated 345 and 319 pitches; also, Nolan Ryan threw 164 in a 1989 game, aged 42. Stats LLC began tracking pitch counts in 1988, and MLB keeps official data since 1999. The highest pitch count since 1990 is 172, by Tim Wakefield for the Pittsburgh Pirates against the Atlanta Braves on April 27, 1993; however, it should be known that Wakefield's primary pitch was the knuckleball, an off-speed pitch. Off-speed pitches are less strenuous on a pitcher's arm compared to a fastball. Pitch counts above 125 are increasingly rare:

On June 25, 2010, Arizona Diamondbacks pitcher Edwin Jackson threw 149 pitches in a no-hitter. This was the highest pitch count in an MLB game since 2005.

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MOS Technology 6509

The MOS Technology 6509, an enhanced version of the popular 6502 microprocessor, is capable of addressing up to 1 megabyte of RAM via bank switching. While numerous 6502-based processors can perform bank switching, they achieve this via separate logic. The 6509 has this logic on-chip.

Passing data between different banks requires use of the register at $1 which selects the banks to be read from and written to via LDA (zero page), Y and STA (zero page), Y CPU opcodes. The register at $0 selects the bank where the CPU fetches instructions from, which will default to 15 ($F) on power up.

The 6509 has a reputation for being difficult to program, due to its bank switching scheme. It is used in the Commodore CBM-II line of computers.

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