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Barrys
''Hi, I've just noticed that we've both got articles on Barry's Tea - mine is here Barry's Tea, and yours is here Barrys. Would you mind if yours became a redirect to mine? Just asking, 'cause I've got a bit more detail in mine.. AndrewH 16:07, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)''

 * Thats fine, fire ahead - anyways Barry's Tea is proably a more correct title - my concern when I named my article Barrys, instead of Barry's Tea was because I believe (I might be wrong though) that Barrys used to own the Bachaleors Beans company, and therefore was more than just a tea merchant... --CGorman 17:19, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

re: vfd
Yes, it is obvious vanity. There's mixed discussion on when to CSD and when to VFD. In this case, you are probably right, it should be CSD'ed because it is so obvious, however being an active contributor to VfD I tend to just tag it out of habit. :p Inter 12:43, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Note on this. Many others tend to tag obvious vanity for VfD instead of CSD'ing it. I suppose I'm more of an inclusionist, than deletionist (even though almost all my votes on VfD are deletions :>). This is no excuse in this case, as you are probably right. Cheers. Inter 12:48, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Pancake adventures
"against my better judgement for a speedy delete" - aw, you should have listened to your better judgement! My finger was itching to speedy that mess ... - DavidWBrooks 16:43, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ahuizote
Hola Andrew.

Creo que poner que substituir con hechos las elucubraciones que habia anteriormente en la pagina de Miguel Pro no es vandalismo. Si quieres pueder revisar tu mismo las fuentes. Tambien creo que es una mala idea poner como fuente un libro de un conocido amigo del regimen nazi, Lothar Groppe [], quien habla de la liberacion de europa de las garras del nazismo como "Der völkerrechtswidrige und menschenverachtende Raub eines Viertels Deutschlands". Si tienes alguna inquietud, puedes escribirla aqui mismo. Agur!

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Marlay Park
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 * I've already uploaded two photos of Marlay Park : and  - I'll try to get over there and take some more when the weather gets a bit better.

Thanks, I saw the rear house view but, sorry, think it is rather a wide a shot for the article but I have added the waterfall shot. anything recreational would be good too. I do look at the Irish weather to see what my son and his wife are dealing with and see that it is cold, windy, raining and cloudy; so what's new for Ireland. Whenever you get a chance to go out again on a sunny day (!) would be great. ww2censor 16:06, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

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 * Hi @Onel5969, I've added a number of citations from independent sources. Please let me know if there's anything further needed.
 * Thanks AndrewH (talk) 15:11, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, there's enough there now to pass GNG. I've moved it to mainspace.  Nice job.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

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Talk deleted 22:50 on Thursday 2004-12-30 as I'm bored.

Dinosaurs of the Isle of Wight
You're welcome, and it's not that obscure... the Isle of Wight was one of the tips of the Wealden Formation, which helped start everything until that huge boom across the Atlantic. If you used the book to write the article, you might want to write it up as a formal reference... it's pretty authoritative :) 68.81.231.127 10:47, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

IAYC
Hi Neil, I am the suspicious person, who edited the IAYC page. Indeed, as you guessed correctly, I took part in the IAYC. If it was once or twice I forgot. For details cf. http://www.iayc.org/people/address.php.

Probably I am not rally the most unsuspicious one with respect to advertising the iayc... but as I said: I am not part of the organising team...:-) --CWitte 16:43, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

St. George's Day
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rehash of UK CotW
Hiya, I've made a few modifications to the UK Wikipedians' Collaboration of the Week, and I thought you'd be interested in the new page and helping out again with it, as you have contributed in the past! :) Talrias | talk 21:09, Mar 14, 2005 (UTC)

Template for Election Candidates and Results
Neil, based on your (really nice) original table of election results on the IoW page, and input from elsewhere, I've created a pukka set of templates at Template:Election box. 80N 15:49, Apr 25, 2005 (UTC)

heartsease
Hi Neil... if I've read the history correctly, you added to the heartsease page the remark that "Heartsease have a large number of coloquial name, up to two hundred". Do you have an authority for that? It's an interesting observation but perhaps should be backed up. seglea 00:08, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Sadly no, that was way back before I knew that everything should be referenced properly, and was based upon a quotation from QI (a British game show).

Category:UK Wikipedians
Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 20:28 (UTC)

WP:UKPC
Dear Neil,

Given that you have contributed significantly to UK Parliamentary constituency articles, I suggest you enrol in the above linked WikiProject o them.

As an aside, I am also a student at Oxford (Oriel College), and given a reasonable similarity in intersts in politics, I was wondering if you might be willing to meet up some time? --New Progressive 23:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Peer review
I noticed your peer review for List of parties contesting the United Kingdom general election, 2005 was orphaned on the PR page :(. Peer review is wonderful in principle, but just doesn't get the sustained traffic. Anyhow, I've made some comments on it if you want to check it out. Marskell 23:57, 26 October 2005 (UTC)

Astronomy heads-up
Hi - I edited astronomy last night to remove some excess astrology stuff, including the listing of astrology as a field of study under astronomy. My changes were quickly reverted by a self proclaimed judicial astrologer. As you have argued for rationality in the astronomy article before, I thought you would find it interesting - and help may be needed :-) Thanks, Vsmith 14:33, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Sub Pages
Were you looking for User:NeilTarrant/PageAds? You can find all your sub pages by searching. κаллэмакс 10:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Montenegro referendum map
Sort of shades of the whole red state/blue states thing stateside, but judging by the coverage I caught of the Montenegrin referendum, the "Yes" camp was associated with the colour red and the "No" camp with blue. Might flipping the colours make the map better? The Tom 22:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Heraldry
Hi Neil, I was wanting to include Heraldry in Version 0.5, but unfortunately there is no formal references section. I posted a request here but no one has responded. If you were involved in writing some of the article, could you possibly rectify this? I can't believe that none of that enormous "further reading" list was used as source material! Thanks, Walkerma 02:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

Dude!
You're page is a complete mess! Sort it out. When do u start uni again btw? --- Richard CHSTalk

 * Yeah I may or may not have been under the influence... Not too bad here, not a lot going on though - still seeing chimp occasionally! How about you? --- Richard CHSTalk 23:11, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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You might find this website of interest in that it breaks down the types of planets. Please note it is not authoritative as of yet, but it is rather concise. Planetary Classification List v6 Abyssoft 15:48, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sark
Thanks for catching my poor disambig at Sark (planet); I didn't know that the page of Sark (disambiguation) even existed!

Yoghurt
I want to start out by saying I'm really sorry that this happened - I did my best to stop it (since the discussion has happened so many times), but sadly I have been overruled by 4 people who are obsessed with name changing (regardless of whether or not I agree with them). There is a new debate on the Yoghurt talk page about the move - I just felt it would be best if most people who had voted in the past knew about this. daniel folsom 00:07, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Your Note on Downloading Trek Fan Films Outside U.S.
Hi, was curious about this. Are you saying that people can only download these things if they live in America? That seems odd. They're available from the creator's website and mirrors for download, plus they're all on YouTube. Surely there is not something that stops people who own PCs in other countries from downloading and viewing them. . . is there? Signed, confused Sir Rhosis 19:44, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually I meant to say that one can only download from the iTunes store (and probably the XBox thing too) in the US. --Neo 19:47, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
 * No, I think the ITunes thing is only for the downloading of the official TOS Remastered eps. Anybody, anywhere, with the right media program can download the fan films from the fan film creators' sites or from places like YouTube.  Sir Rhosis 19:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Coercive Unanimity
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Recent edit to lead section of Isle of Wight
Hello again! You did exactly what I was about to do - reverting the last edit made to Isle of Wight. I think this one might flare up, so input at Talk:Isle of Wight might be handy... --Peeky44 (talk) 12:26, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Devils Punchbowl
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Potato chips and race
Should I call you Doc? ;-)  My nephew has his doctorate in physics, impressive and congratulations!  As you grew up in England, I am going on the assumption that you were not exposed to the institutional racism rampant in the USA, that has reared its ugly head ,esp since the election of our President.  Are you still in the deep South? Growing up,  nowhere was it mentioned in history books the importance of the contributions African Americans made to this country. I.e., the  of inventor of the cotton gin which revolutionized that industry. As a small child, I witnessed the Civil rights struggle and remember well some of those events in Birmingham etc. It is important that even a triviality such as the potato chip article that recognition of such persons be acknowledged, removing it could smack of racism, just sayin'. I do not want my black grandchildren to be deprived of the knowledge of their ancestors, as I was. I didn't learn of many ,many of those facts until I went to University in the 90's.  When my daughter married a black man, I became even more sensitive to the entire issue, as I became exposed to the racism I had not experienced before. This may be TMI, but I wanted you to understand from whence I am coming. So, please just leave in the designation. Thanks. Namaste...DocOfSoc (talk) 22:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

 * <smile> You haven't quite convinced me that it needs to go there, but since you were nice enough to leave such a pleasant message on my talk page I won't revert you. Still I think you may be fighting an uphill struggle on this one, so don't be surprised if someone else reverts your change. --Neil (talk) 23:46, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

 * It's ALL an uphill battle is this arena! Thank you! <smile> DocOfSoc (talk) 00:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

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Oh no, really? Please could you elaborate as to exactly why it has been deleted - so I don't waste my time in future. Hillbillyholiday talk 23:25, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

 * Hi NeilTarrant, I've declined your speedy as no valid criterion was provided; prodded instead: nn neologism; one radio show does not equal notability. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 23:43, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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 * Nataša Bekvalac (born 1980), Serbian singer
 * Natasha Henstridge (born 1974), Canadian actress
 * Natascha Janakieva (born 1951), Bulgarian canoer
 * Natasha Joubert (born 1997), South African beauty pageant titleholder
 * Natasha Kaiser (born 1967), American athlete
 * Natascha Kampusch (born 1988), Austrian author and kidnap survivor
 * Natasha Kaplinsky (born 1972), English TV presenter
 * Natascha Keller (born 1977), German field hockey player
 * Natasha Khan (born 1979), British singer
 * Natasha Klauss (born 1975), Colombian actress
 * Natasha Korolyova (born 1973), Russian singer
 * Natasha Kuchiki (born 1976), American figure skater
 * Natasha Law (born 1970), English artist
 * Natasha Leggero (born 1974), American stand-up comic and actress
 * Natasha Low (born 1993), Singaporean singer and actress
 * Natasha Little (born 1969), English actress
 * Natasha Lyonne (born 1979), American actress
 * Natasha Mannuela Halim (born 1994), Indonesian beauty pageant titleholder
 * Natasha Marsh (born 1975), Welsh opera singer
 * Natascha McElhone (born 1969), British actress
 * Natascha McNamara (born 1935), Australian academic, activist, and researcher
 * Natasha Ngan (born 1990, British author
 * Natasha Melnick (born 1984), American actress
 * Natasha Negovanlis (born 1990), Canadian actress and singer
 * Natasha Nic Gairbheith (born 1981), Irish beauty pageant titleholder
 * Natasha Poly (born 1985), Russian model
 * Natasha Poonawalla (born 1981), Indian businesswoman
 * Natasha Pyne (born 1946), English actress
 * Natasha Rastogi (born 1962), Indian actress
 * Natasha Reid (born 1981), birth name of American-South Korean singer Yoon Mi-rae
 * Natasha Richardson (1963–2009), English actress
 * Natasha Shneider (1956–2008), Russian musician
 * Natasha St-Pier (born 1981), Canadian singer
 * Natasha Stillwell, English television host and producer
 * Natasha Stott Despoja (born 1969), Australian politician
 * Natasha Suri (born 1989), Indian model
 * Natasha Tang (born 1992), Hong Kong distance swimmer
 * Natasha Thahane (born 1995), South African actress and model
 * Natasha Trethewey (born 1966), American poet
 * Natasha Vlassenko (born 1956), Russian-Australian pianist
 * Natasha Watley (born 1981), American softball player
 * Natasha Wightman (born 1973), British actress
 * Natascha Wingelaar (born 1974), Dutch politician
 * Nataša Ninković (born 1972), Serbian actress
 * Natasha Zvereva (born 1971), Belarusian tennis player

Fictional characters

 * Natasha, a baby Muppet in the PBS children's television series Sesame Street
 * Commander Natasha, a character in Raj Comics
 * Natasha Andersen, a character in the British soap opera Hollyoaks
 * Natasha Blakeman, a character in the ITV soap opera Coronation Street
 * Alexis Davis (General Hospital) (born Natasha Cassadine), a character in the ABC soap opera General Hospital
 * Natasha Fatale, a character in the 1960s animated television series The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends
 * Natasha Romanova, also known as Black Widow, a character from Marvel Comics
 * Natasha Rostova, a character in the novel War and Peace by Leo Tolstoy
 * Tasha Yar, a character in the sci-fi television series Star Trek: The Next Generation
 * Tasha, an anthropomorphic hippo character in the Nick Jr. animated preschool television series The Backyardigans
 * Tasha, a Greyhawk wizard in the roleplaying game Dungeons & Dragons
 * Natasha, a playable character in Honkai: Star Rail

Notable animals

 * Natasha (monkey), a macaque at the Safary Park zoo near Tel Aviv, Israel

Astronomy

 * Natasha is the official name of star HD 85390.

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Local Government Act 1972

The Local Government Act 1972 (c. 70) is an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom that reformed local government in England and Wales on 1 April 1974. It was one of the most significant Acts of Parliament to be passed by the Heath Government of 1970–74.

The Act took the total number of councils in England from 1,245 to 412 (excluding parish councils), and in Wales to 45. Its pattern of two-tier metropolitan and non-metropolitan county and district councils remains in use today in large parts of England, although the metropolitan county councils were abolished in 1986, and both county and district councils have been replaced with unitary authorities in many areas since the 1990s. In Wales, too, the Act established a similar pattern of counties and districts, but these have since been entirely replaced with a system of unitary authorities.

Elections were held to the new authorities in 1973, and they acted as "shadow authorities" until the handover date. Elections to county councils were held on 12 April, for metropolitan and Welsh districts on 10 May, and for non-metropolitan district councils on 7 June.

Background
Elected county councils had been established in England and Wales for the first time in 1888, covering areas known as administrative counties. Some large towns, known as county boroughs, were politically independent from the counties in which they were physically situated. The county areas were two-tier, with many municipal boroughs, urban districts and rural districts within them, each with its own council.

Apart from the creation of new county boroughs, the most significant change since 1899 (and the establishment of metropolitan boroughs in the County of London) had been the establishment in 1965 of Greater London and its 32 London boroughs, covering a much larger area than the previous county of London. A Local Government Commission for England was set up in 1958 to review local government arrangements throughout the country, and made some changes, such as merging two pairs of small administrative counties to form Huntingdon and Peterborough and Cambridgeshire and Isle of Ely, and creating several contiguous county boroughs in the Black Country. Most of the commission's recommendations, such as its proposals to abolish Rutland or to reorganise Tyneside, were ignored in favour of the status quo.

It was generally agreed that there were significant problems with the structure of local government. Despite mergers, there was still a proliferation of small district councils in rural areas, and in the major conurbations the borders had been set before the pattern of urban development had become clear. For example, in the area that was to become the seven boroughs of the metropolitan county of West Midlands, local government was split between three administrative counties (Staffordshire, Warwickshire, and Worcestershire), and eight county boroughs (Birmingham, Coventry, Dudley, Solihull, Walsall, Warley, West Bromwich, and Wolverhampton). Many county boundaries reflected traditions of the Middle Ages or even earlier; industrialisation had created new and very large urban areas like the West Midlands, Liverpool and Manchester which spanned traditional county boundaries and were now often bigger than and far from their traditional county towns.

The Local Government Commission was wound up in 1966, and replaced with a Royal Commission (known as the Redcliffe-Maud commission). In 1969 it recommended a system of single-tier unitary authorities for the whole of England, apart from three metropolitan areas of Merseyside, SELNEC (South East Lancashire and North East Cheshire, now known as Greater Manchester) and West Midlands (Birmingham and the Black Country), which were to have both a metropolitan council and district councils.

This report was accepted by the Labour Party government of the time despite considerable opposition, but the Conservative Party won the June 1970 general election on a manifesto that committed it to a two-tier structure. The new government made Peter Walker and Graham Page the ministers, and quickly dropped the Redcliffe-Maud report. They invited comments from interested parties regarding the previous government's proposals.

The Association of Municipal Corporations, an advocacy group representing the boroughs, responded to Redcliffe-Maud by putting forward a scheme where England outside London would be divided into 13 provinces, with 132 main authorities below that. The AMC argued that the Redcliffe-Maud units would be too far removed from the people they served, and suggested units that in some places were much smaller in size. The Times gave the example of Kent, which under Redcliffe-Maud would have consisted of two unitary authorities, the smaller having a population of 499,000 (as of 1968), while the AMC proposal would divide the same area into seven local authorities, ranging in population from 161,000 to 306,000.

White Paper and Bill
The incoming government's proposals for England were presented in a White Paper published in February 1971. The White Paper substantially trimmed the metropolitan areas, and proposed a two-tier structure for the rest of the country. Many of the new boundaries proposed by the Redcliffe-Maud report were retained in the White Paper. The proposals were in large part based on ideas of the County Councils Association, the Urban District Councils Association and the Rural District Councils Association.

The White Paper outlined principles, including an acceptance of the minimum population of 250,000 for education authorities in the Redcliffe-Maud report, and its findings that the division of functions between town and country had been harmful, but that some functions were better performed by smaller units. The White Paper set out the proposed division of functions between districts and counties, and also suggested a minimum population of 40,000 for districts. The government aimed to introduce a Bill in the 1971/72 session of Parliament for elections in 1973, so that the new authorities could start exercising full powers on 1 April 1974. The White Paper made no commitments on regional or provincial government, since the Conservative government preferred to wait for the Crowther Commission to report.

The proposals were substantially changed with the introduction of the Bill into Parliament in November 1971:

 * Area 4 (Cleveland) would have had a border with area 2 (Tyne and Wear), cutting area 3 (Durham) off from the coast. Seaham and Easington were to be part of the Sunderland district.
 * Humberside did not exist in the White Paper. The East Riding was split between area 5 (North Yorkshire) and an area 8 (East Yorkshire). Grimsby and Northern Lindsey were to be part of area 22 (Lincolnshire).
 * Harrogate and Knaresborough had been included in district 6b (Leeds)
 * Dronfield in Derbyshire had been included in district 7c (Sheffield)
 * Area 9 (Cumbria) did not at this stage include the Sedbergh Rural District from Yorkshire
 * Area 10 (Lancashire) included more parishes from the West Riding of Yorkshire than were eventually included
 * Area 11 (Merseyside) did not include Southport, but did include Ellesmere Port and Neston
 * Area 12 (Greater Manchester) lost New Mills and Whaley Bridge (to be with Stockport), and Glossop (to be in Tameside)
 * The Seisdon Rural District, which formed a narrow peninsula of Staffordshire running between Shropshire and the Black Country county boroughs, would originally have been split three ways, between the Wolverhampton district (15a), area 16 (Shropshire) and area 17 (Worcestershire)
 * Halesowen would have become part of district 15d (Sandwell) rather than 15c (Dudley)
 * District 15f (Solihull) would have included part of the Birmingham county borough as well as parishes from Stratford on Avon Rural District
 * Area 18 (Warwickshire) would have included several parishes from Daventry Rural District in Northamptonshire
 * Area 20 (Nottinghamshire) would include Long Eaton from Derbyshire
 * Area 26 (Avon) to have covered a larger area, including Frome
 * Area 31 (Norfolk) to have covered a large area of East Suffolk, including Beccles, Bungay, Halesworth, Lowestoft, Southwold, Lothingland Rural District, and Wainford Rural District
 * Area 33 (Oxfordshire) to include Brackley and Brackley Rural District from Northamptonshire
 * Area 39 (Berkshire) to include Henley-on-Thames and Henley Rural District from Oxfordshire
 * Area 40 (Surrey) to include Aldershot, Farnborough, Fleet and area from Hampshire

The Bill as introduced also included two new major changes based on the concept of unifying estuaries, through the creation of the county of Humberside on the Humber Estuary, and the inclusion of Harwich and Colchester in Suffolk to unify the Stour Estuary. The latter was removed from the Bill before it became law. Proposals from Plymouth for a Tamarside county were rejected. The Bill also provided names for the new counties for the first time.

The main amendments made to the areas during the Bill's passage through Parliament were:

 * renaming of Malvernshire to Hereford and Worcester (the name "Wyvern" was also suggested)
 * renaming of Teesside to Cleveland, exclusion of Whitby
 * renaming of Tyneside to Tyne and Wear
 * removal of Seaham from Tyne and Wear, keeping it in County Durham
 * removal of Skelmersdale and Holland from Merseyside – they were to be part of the independent district of Southport, before Southport was included within Merseyside
 * exclusion of Colchester and area from Suffolk, kept in Essex
 * exclusion of Newmarket and Haverhill from Cambridgeshire, kept in Suffolk (despite protests of Newmarket UDC, which was happy to see the town transferred to Cambridgeshire)
 * keeping the Isle of Wight independent of Hampshire
 * adding part of Lothingland Rural District from Suffolk to Norfolk.

In the Bill as published, the Dorset/Hampshire border was between Christchurch and Lymington. On 6 July 1972, a government amendment added Lymington to Dorset, which would have had the effect of having the entire Bournemouth conurbation in one county (although the town in Lymington itself does not form part of the built-up area, the borough was large and contained villages which do). The House of Lords reversed this amendment in September, with the government losing the division 81 to 65. In October, the government brought up this issue again, proposing an amendment to put the western part of Lymington borough in Dorset. The amendment was withdrawn.

The government lost divisions in the House of Lords at Report Stage on the exclusion of Wilmslow and Poynton from Greater Manchester and their retention in Cheshire, and also on whether Rothwell should form part of the Leeds or Wakefield districts. (Rothwell had been planned for Wakefield, but an amendment at report stage was proposed by local MP Albert Roberts and accepted by the government, then overturned by the Lords.) Instead, the Wakefield district gained the town of Ossett, which was originally placed in the Kirklees district, following an appeal by Ossett Labour Party.

The government barely won a division in the Lords on the inclusion of Weston-super-Mare in Avon, by 42 to 41.

Two more metropolitan districts were created than were originally in the Bill:
 * Rochdale and Bury were originally planned to form a single district (dubbed "Botchdale" by local MP Michael Fidler); Rochdale took Middleton from Oldham in compensation.
 * Knowsley was not originally planned, and was formed from the western part of the planned St Helens district.

As passed, the Act would have included Charlwood and Horley in West Sussex, along with Gatwick Airport. This was reversed by the Charlwood and Horley Act 1974, passed just before the Act came into force. Charlwood was made part of the Mole Valley district and Horley part of Reigate and Banstead. Gatwick Airport was still transferred.

Although willing to compromise on exact boundaries, the government stood firm on the existence or abolition of county councils. The Isle of Wight (originally scheduled to be merged back into Hampshire as a district) was the only local campaign to succeed, and also the only county council in England to violate the 250,000 minimum for education authorities. The government bowed to local demand for the island to retain its status in October 1972, moving an amendment in the Lords to remove it from Hampshire, Lord Sanford noting that "nowhere else is faced with problems of communication with its neighbours which are in any way comparable".

Protests from Rutland and Herefordshire failed, although Rutland was able to secure its treatment as a single district despite not meeting the stated minimum population of 40,000 for districts. Several metropolitan boroughs fell under the 250,000 limit, including three of Tyne and Wear's five boroughs (North Tyneside, South Tyneside and Gateshead), and the four metropolitan boroughs that had resulted from the splitting of the proposed Bury/Rochdale and Knowsley/St Helens boroughs.

Wales
The background of the act was substantially different in Wales. The Redcliffe-Maud Commission had not considered Wales, which had been the subject of the Welsh Office proposals in the 1960s. A White Paper was published in 1967 on the subject of Wales, based on the findings of the 1962 report of the Local Government Commission for Wales. The White Paper proposed five counties, and thirty-six districts. The county boroughs of Swansea, Cardiff and Newport would be retained, but the small county borough of Merthyr Tydfil would become a district. The proposed counties were as follows

 * Dyfed – West Wales – Cardiganshire, Carmarthenshire, Pembrokeshire
 * Glamorgan – South Wales
 * Gwent – South-East Wales – Monmouthshire (also including Rhymney valley from Glamorgan)
 * Gwynedd – North Wales – Anglesey, Caernarvonshire, Denbighshire, Flintshire, Merionethshire
 * Powys – Mid Wales – Montgomeryshire, Radnorshire, Breconshire

Implementation of reform in Wales was not immediate, pending decisions on the situation in England, and a new Secretary of State, George Thomas, announced changes to the proposals in November 1968. The large northern county of Gwynedd was to be split to form two counties (creating Gwynedd in the west and Clwyd in the east) with various alterations to the districts. The Redcliffe-Maud report led to a reconsideration of the plans, especially with respect to Glamorgan and Monmouthshire, and a March 1970 White Paper proposed three unitary authorities for South Wales, based on Cardiff, Swansea and Newport.

After the 1970 general election, the new Conservative government published a Consultative Document in February 1971, at the same time as the English White Paper. The proposals were similar to the Labour proposals of 1968, except that the county boroughs were instead two-tier districts, and that Glamorgan was to be subdivided into West Glamorgan and East Glamorgan, making 7 counties and 36 districts.

In the Bill as introduced Glamorgan had been split into three authorities: with East Glamorgan further subdivided into a Mid Glamorgan covering the valleys and South Glamorgan. The decision to split East Glamorgan further left South Glamorgan with only two districts (one of which was the Conservative-controlled Cardiff, who had requested the split) and Mid Glamorgan one of the poorest areas in the country. The Labour-controlled Glamorgan County Council strongly opposed this move, placing adverts in newspapers calling for Glamorgan to be saved from a "carve up", and demanding that the east/west split be retained. The resulting South Glamorgan was the only Welsh county council the Conservatives ever controlled (from 1977 to 1981).

One of the effects of the Act was to confirm the area of Monmouthshire as part of Wales. Ambiguity as to the status of Monmouthshire had been introduced by legislation in the 16th and 17th centuries, and by the gradual cultural anglicisation of some eastern parts of the county. By the late 19th century the area was often treated in legislation as one with Wales, using the terminology "Wales and Monmouthshire", although it remained legally part of England.

Apart from the new Glamorgan authorities, all the names of the new Welsh counties were in the Welsh language, with no English equivalent. With the exception of Clwyd (which was named after the River Clwyd) the names of the counties were taken from ancient British kingdoms. Welsh names were also used for many of the Welsh districts. There were no metropolitan counties and, unlike in England, the Secretary of State could not create future metropolitan counties there under the Act.

Act
After much comment, the proposals were introduced as the Local Government Bill into Parliament soon after the start of the 1971–1972 session.

In the Commons it passed through Standing Committee D, who debated it in 51 sittings from 25 November 1971 to 20 March 1972.

The Act abolished previous existing local government structures, and created a two-tier system of counties and districts everywhere. Some of the new counties were designated metropolitan counties, containing metropolitan boroughs instead. The allocation of functions differed between the metropolitan and the non-metropolitan areas (the so-called "shire counties") – for example, education and social services were the responsibility of the shire counties, but in metropolitan areas was given to the districts. The distribution of powers was slightly different in Wales than in England, with libraries being a county responsibility in England—but in Wales districts could opt to become library authorities themselves. One key principle was that education authorities (non-metropolitan counties and metropolitan districts), were deemed to need a population base of 250,000 in order to be viable.

Although called two-tier, the system was really three-tier, as it retained civil parish councils, although in Wales they were renamed community councils. Within districts some inconsistency prevailed. For example, in Welwyn Hatfield District in Hertfordshire, which comprised Welwyn Garden City, Hatfield and Old Welwyn, Hatfield retained a civil parish council, its 'town council' which could act alone in some matters such as town twinning, whereas Welwyn Garden City did not and therefore had no separate representation.

The Act introduced 'agency', where one local authority (usually a district) could act as an agent for another authority. For example, since road maintenance was split depending upon the type of road, both types of council had to retain engineering departments. A county council could delegate its road maintenance to the district council if it was confident that the district was competent. Some powers were specifically excluded from agency, such as education.

The Act abolished various historic relics such as aldermen. The office previously known as sheriff was retitled high sheriff. Many existing boroughs that were too small to constitute a district, but too large to constitute a civil parish, were given charter trustees.

Most provisions of the Act came into force at midnight on 1 April 1974. Elections to the new councils had already been held, in 1973, and the new authorities were already up and running as "shadow authorities", following the example set by the London Government Act 1963.

New local government areas
The Act specified the composition and names of the English and Welsh counties, and the composition of the metropolitan and Welsh districts. It did not specify any names of districts, nor indeed the borders of the non-metropolitan districts in England – these were specified by Statutory Instrument after the passing of the Act. A Boundary Commission, provided for in the Act, had already begun work on dividing England into districts whilst the Bill was still going through Parliament.

In England there were 45 counties and 332 districts (excluding Greater London and the Isles of Scilly), in Wales there were 8 and 37. Six of the English counties were designated as metropolitan counties. The new English counties were based clearly on the traditional ones, albeit with several substantial changes. The thirteen historic counties of Wales were abandoned entirely for administrative purposes and eight new ones instituted.

The Act substituted the new counties "for counties of any other description" for purposes of law. This realigned the boundaries of ceremonial and judicial counties used for lieutenancy, custodes rotulorum, shrievalty, commissions of the peace and magistrates' courts to the metropolitan and non-metropolitan counties. The Act also extended the rights of the Duchy of Lancaster to appoint Lord-Lieutenants for the shrunken Lancashire along with all of Greater Manchester and Merseyside.

Before the passing of the Act, there were a total of 1,210 councils in England (excluding Greater London councils and the Isles of Scilly). This was made up of 1,086 rural and urban districts (including non-county boroughs), 79 county boroughs and 45 counties. The Act reduced the total number of councils outside Greater London and the Isles of Scilly to 377 (45 counties and 332 districts). Most of the new districts were groups of the whole areas of former districts, although 64 rural districts were split between new districts, and there were eleven urban districts or boroughs which saw their territory split between new districts: Teesside County Borough, Whitley Bay Municipal Borough, Ashton-in-Makerfield Urban District, Billinge and Winstanley Urban District, Golborne Urban District, Lakes Urban District, Queensbury and Shelf Urban District, Ramsbottom Urban District, Seaton Valley Urban District, Thurrock Urban District, and Turton Urban District.

Non-metropolitan districts
A list of non-metropolitan districts can be found at List of English districts. The Local Government Boundary Commission originally proposed 278 non-metropolitan districts in April 1972 (still working with the county boundaries found in the Bill). A further eighteen districts were added in the final proposals of November 1972, which were then ordered.

The splits were as follows (in most cases the splits were not exact, and many other changes to the borders of the districts took place at this time)

 * Devon: Torridge/North Devon
 * Dorset : Weymouth and Portland/Purbeck, North Dorset/East Dorset
 * Durham : Wear Valley/Teesdale
 * Hereford and Worcester : Hereford/South Herefordshire/Leominster
 * Humberside: Holderness/North Wolds
 * Isle of Wight: South Wight/Medina
 * Lancashire: Hyndburn/Rossendale
 * Leicestershire : Rutland/Melton, Harborough/Oadby and Wigston
 * Lincolnshire: Boston/South Holland
 * Northamptonshire: Daventry/South Northamptonshire
 * Northumberland : Berwick-upon-Tweed/Alnwick
 * Shropshire : Oswestry/North Shropshire, Bridgnorth/South Shropshire
 * Somerset: Taunton Deane/West Somerset
 * Suffolk: Forest Heath

The new district in Suffolk was necessitated by the decision to keep Newmarket in Suffolk; which would otherwise have become part of the East Cambridgeshire district.

Isles of Scilly
Section 265 of the Act allowed for the continuation of the local government arrangements for the Isles of Scilly. The Isles of Scilly Rural District Council became the Council of the Isles of Scilly, and certain services were to continue to be provided by Cornwall County Council as provided by order made by the Secretary of State, although the Isles were not technically in Cornwall before or after 1974.

Elections
Elections to the new authorities were held on three different Thursdays in 1973. Each new county and district was divided into electoral divisions, known as wards in the districts. For county councils, each electoral division elected one member; for metropolitan district councils, each ward elected three members; and wards in non-metropolitan districts could elect a varying number of members. There was not sufficient time to conduct a full warding arrangement so a temporary system was used: in some county councils electoral divisions elected multiple councillors.

County councils were set on a four-year cycle of elections of all members, and the next elections were in 1977. Metropolitan district councils elected one councillor for each seat in the three other years, starting in 1975. Non-metropolitan districts had a general election again in 1976, and could subsequently either conduct elections of the whole council or by-thirds. Schedule 3 provided that for each metropolitan ward, the councillor for who obtained the fewest votes in the 1973 election would retire in 1975, the next fewest in 1976, and the others in 1978, setting up the cycle. If equal numbers of votes were obtained, or ward elections in 1973 had been uncontested, the decision would be made by lot.

Division of functions
Health care and water supply / sanitation were assigned to new, separate, non-elected authorities.

The remaining functions previously exercised by local authorities were distributed broadly as follows:

In many areas both authorities had some powers, and certain Welsh districts were allowed greater powers by the Secretary of State.

Reaction
The system established by the Act was the object of some criticism. One major controversy was the failure to reform local government finance. Having lost office at the general election of February 1974, Graham Page, the minister who had piloted the Act through Parliament, condemned the existing system of rates and grants. His successor as Minister for the Environment, Tony Crosland said that he would be re-examining the rates system, while the Association of Metropolitan Authorities sought the establishment of a royal commission to consider the matter.

The two-tier structure established was also seen as problematic. In particular, the division of planning between districts and counties was a source of friction between the new councils. Thamesdown Borough Council called for a further reform and complete abolition of counties as they felt Wiltshire County Council was unable to respond to the needs of an expanding urban area. Further complaints surrounded the loss of water supply and sewerage powers to regional water authorities created by the Water Act 1973. This was felt to reduce the ability of district councils to plan new housing developments. It was also felt that the boundaries of the metropolitan counties were too tightly drawn, leaving out much of the suburban areas of the conurbations. The leading article in The Times on the day the Act came into effect noted that the new arrangement is a compromise which seeks to reconcile familiar geography which commands a certain amount of affection and loyalty, with the scale of operations on which modern planning methods can work effectively.

There was some criticism of county boundary changes. A campaign was mounted to return the Uffington White Horse to Berkshire, and a bonfire was lit at the site by protestors as the Act came into effect. The campaigners claimed 10,000 signatures in favour of diverting the county boundary to include the "Berkshire White Horse". The calls were rejected by the local MP, Airey Neave, who pointed out that the horse predated county boundaries, and by the chairman of the Vale of White Horse District Council. Professor Anthony Fletcher, of the Department of Medieval History of the University of Sheffield, suggested that the new councils place signs at the boundaries of ancient counties. The removal of Gatwick Airport and the surrounding area from Surrey into West Sussex met some fierce local opposition with the result that the parishes of Horley and Charlwood were subsequently returned to Surrey in the eponymous Charlwood and Horley Act 1974, leaving the airport to stay in West Sussex.

Some of the reaction against the Act was motivated by opposition to loss of local control. The county borough councils regretted the loss of their independent status. Criticism of the Act also centred on the size of the new districts. The new Minister, whose party had opposed the reforms in opposition, hoped that "it will be more efficient – but it could easily become more remote". In order to combat this, Crosland was considering the creation of "neighbourhood councils" in unparished areas of the new districts. The names of some of the new authorities also caused controversy. At no point were local populations consulted about the changes.

The two arguably most loathed new counties created were Humberside and Avon. Humberside united the north and south banks of the River Humber – in theory at least promoting cooperation of the ports of Kingston-upon-Hull, Grimsby and Immingham – carving territory out of the East Riding of Yorkshire and of northern Lindsey respectively. Avon lumped Bristol, formerly a county borough within Gloucestershire, together with Bath, a former county borough in Somerset. Both these creations were to disappear in further local government reforms in the 1990s.

Amendment and adaptation
The system established by the Act was not to last. In England a series of incremental measures amended it. First, the county councils of the metropolitan counties, as well as the Greater London Council, were abolished in 1986 by Margaret Thatcher's government with the Local Government Act 1985, effectively re-establishing county borough status for the metropolitan boroughs. Second, a review of local government outside the metropolitan counties was announced in 1989. The local government reform in the 1990s led to the creation of many new unitary authorities, and the complete abolition of Avon, Cleveland, Hereford and Worcester and Humberside. Names such as Herefordshire and the East Riding of Yorkshire reappeared as local government entities, although often with new boundaries. Several former county boroughs such as Derby, Leicester and Stoke-on-Trent regained unitary status. Additionally, another wave of unitary authorities was formed in 2009.

In Wales there was a more radical change in policy with the two-tier system entirely abolished in 1996, and replaced with the current principal areas of Wales. The 1974 counties in Wales have been retained as preserved counties for various purposes, notably as ceremonial counties, albeit with substantive border revisions.

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Natasha (monkey)

Natasha is a macaque at the Safari Park zoo near Tel Aviv, Israel. She has become well known because, unlike other macaques who move by alternating between walking upright and on all four limbs, Natasha has walked upright all the time since suffering from a stomach flu that almost killed her.

She recovered after receiving intensive-care treatment, and while her other behaviour remained normal, she began walking erect solely on her hind legs, which gained her immediate media attention; the Maariv daily newspaper showed a picture of her striding through the grass, with the tongue-in-cheek caption "The Missing Link?".

The zoo's veterinarian, Yigal Horowitz, remarked: "I've never seen or heard of this before... One possible explanation is brain damage from the illness."

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Hi there! Since the discussion seemed finished, I've closed up the Deletion_policy/Local_politicians discussion for now. I believe consensus has been established that local politicians deserve mention in Wikipedia, but not in a separate article UNLESS they have done something exceptional. Would you please check if you find this a reasonable conclusion, and leave a short note on that page's talk page? Thanks.

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Please do fix up those VfD entries. It's been a while since I've done it, and it seems to have got a lot more convoluted... thanks! Fuzheado | Talk 23:40, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Prof. Birch
You're absolutely right, I did leave my comment in the wrong spot. Thanks for pointing it out to me. Another reason why the keep of that article was bogus occurred to me and I added that too. It's been a concern of mine for a while about the 2 to 1 needed to delete, when there are at least 3 ways of voting. Maybe a new formula is needed. -R. fiend 17:06, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

GRider
Regarding GRider's 'Socratic' VfD nominations and the ensuing reactions by voters, please read and comment on Requests for comment/GRider2. Thanks. Radiant_* 12:23, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)

The Goofyguy nickname
I no longer go by the Wikipedia nickname "Goofyguy"! Just be grateful of that since my new nickname isn't as suspicious! And also, I am trying to make acceptable contributions to Wikipedia (e.g. Monsters from Duke Nukem 3D). --TheSamurai 22:28, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)

More about the Nickname GoofyGuy
As you pointed out that my 3 nicknames describe the same person; I only pointed out that I changed by nickname because I was in jeopardy of being banned when I had my previous nickname; and I don't want to be put into an awkward situation based on Wikipedia.

The continuing GoofyGuy saga
While we're on the subject, I agree that an RfC is completely warranted in this fellow's case. He's trying to contribute, but is leaving a mess. Worse, he hasn't left a single response to any of my messages and I've been as pleasant as can be with him. Maybe this'll help get him flying straight. Please let me know what you'd like for me to do to help. - Lucky 6.9 05:09, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 * I would strongly support the opening of an RfC on SamuraiClinton, aka GoofyGuy. My personal experience with him goes back a few weeks ago, when I voted to delete several of his pages, and suggested that he should be blocked. After he left a note on my talk page, I left a frank response on his talk page and offered several suggestions. He seems to have heeded none of my advice, and has resumed creating page upon page of cruft. He openly admitted: "One reason why I make some articles is because my mind runs out of ones that would have enough significance to be kept". So we should care? He offers us little choice. He's clearly a troll, albeit a remarkably lucky, coddled, long-lived one. We can discuss him in greater detail later. Binadot 05:58, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

User:Rhobite/SamuraiClinton articles and User:Android79/SC: There's duplication of tracking effort here. The two of you should communicate. Uncle G 15:31, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)

hello from India
Hello, I am writing this message from India. I am working as a Senior Manager of a premier Bank of India.

“Johar Jharkahnd”, the article which was recommended for deletion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Log/2005_March_27#Johar_Jharkhand) was placed by me. I am new to wikipedia and I had just put the article, which I had written for my Bank’s House Journal. Out of context, it certainly looked babelfish translation / weird / contained pidjin-English words and was certainly not encyclopedic. I am convinced that the decision to delete the article was correct. However, I can assure you one thing- the article was never intended to read like a Nigerian email scam.

I am very new wiki and within a week, I have become a wikipedian addict. I am sure to participate in the wiki experience and contribute in a positive manner in creating a free encyclopedia. . Thanks…. Byeee. --Bhadani 14:03, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Monsters from Duke Nukem 3D off vfd
Hi, I have closed the debate (Votes for deletion/Monsters from Duke Nukem 3D) and merged the content of your nomination to Duke Nukem 3D. You may want to update your vfd-tally. I have every sympathy with you for nominating that one, I did not really understand a word of that article. Sjakkalle 14:18, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

SC
It looks like we've both been keeping tabs on SamuraiClinton's contributions. We should merge User:Android79/SC and User:Rhobite/SamuraiClinton articles. Your page is more comprehensive - mind if I edit it? I still think SC is a good-faith editor but unfortunately an RFC or worse may be necessary. Rhobite 18:10, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)

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Batesville Casket Company

Batesville Casket Company manufactures caskets and cremation urns. The company was a subsidiary of Hillenbrand, Inc. until its divestiture in 2023 and is headquartered in Batesville, Indiana.

The company operates three manufacturing plants in Batesville, Indiana, Chihuahua, Mexico, and Manchester, Tennessee, and a woodworking factory in Vicksburg, Mississippi, that supplies wood to the factory in Chihuahua.

The company was established in 1884, when John A. Hillenbrand began producing handmade wooden caskets. These caskets had ornate carvings made by casket and furniture companies. In 1906, Hillenbrand purchased the failing Batesville Coffin Company, and renamed it to Batesville Casket Company.

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L.A. Live

L.A. Live is an entertainment complex in the South Park District of Downtown Los Angeles, California. It is adjacent to the Crypto.com Arena and the Los Angeles Convention Center.

L.A. Live was developed by Anschutz Entertainment Group (AEG) (which Anschutz is based in and L.A. Live is the flagship of), Wachovia Corp, Azteca Corp, investment firm MacFarlane Partners, and with tax deferments paid by Los Angeles taxpayers. It cost approximately US$2.5 billion to build. The architectural firm responsible for the master plan and phase two buildings was Baltimore-based RTKL Associates.

With the adjoining Los Angeles Convention Center and Crypto.com Arena, LA Live will be part of the "Downtown Sports Park" cluster for the upcoming 2028 Summer Olympics being held in Los Angeles.

Timeline
Initial construction at L.A. Live began in September 2005. The first phase opened in October 2007 and contained Microsoft Theatre, the Xbox Plaza, a retail plaza, as well as an underground parking garage, holding a fraction of the project's expected total of 4,000 parking spaces.

L.A. Live was initially decried by architects as not being openly pleasing to the neighborhood streets and a metal looking fortress when it opened. The designer of the project, the architect Nate Cherry of CallisonRTKL, wanted to create narrow walkways to lure visitors into the plaza from the street, thus creating alleyways lined with restaurant, similar to a European style public plaza.

L.A. Live brought in a renaissance to the neighborhood surrounding Crypto.com Arena and billions in economic activity to downtown Los Angeles. Through the years, the success of LA LIVE! has created mirrored versions or renovations of districts adjacent to sports venues, including TEXAS LIVE in Arlington, Texas, KEMBA Live! at the Arena District in Columbus, Ohio, Kansas City Live! in Kansas City, Missouri, Titletown District in Green Bay, Wisconsin, Patriot Place outside of Gillette Stadium in Massachusetts, and the American Dream Meadowlands near Meadowlands Stadium in New Jersey.

Explored expansion
In 2020, AEG proposed a $1.2-billion public-private partnership that would add as much as 700,000 square feet to the convention center, which AEG operates, and a $700-million, 861-room addition to the JW Marriott hotel. Plans were approved in 2022. Three years of construction is scheduled.

For a time prior to the return of the Los Angeles Rams in 2016, plans were being developed for the NFL to return to Los Angeles with a new stadium on the campus, to be called Farmers Field. The Los Angeles City Council approved a non-binding memorandum of understanding (MOU) with AEG in a 12–0 vote on August 9, 2011. AEG abandoned the project in March 2015, after the three most likely NFL teams all proposed their own stadium plans in the event they were to relocate to Los Angeles.

Features
L.A. Live has 5.6 e6sqft of ballrooms, bars, concert theatres, restaurants, movie theaters, and a 54-story hotel and condominium tower on a 27 acre site. The complex became home to AEG and the Herbalife headquarters in 2008.

Event Deck
The west outdoor parking garage, the top-level roof is used as event space, called "Event Deck". The 90,000 square foot roof has no obstruction pilers and can easily accommodate large-scale tents and platforms. It was used for the 63rd Annual Grammy Awards the 73rd Primetime Emmy Awards during the COVID-19 pandemic as they could accommodate an indoor and outdoor setting for safety protocol. Also used for the world premiers of the Hunger Games franchise and other Hollywood afterparties. The event space can hold up to 5,000 guests.

Peacock Place
Peacock Place (formerly Nokia Plaza, Microsoft Square & Xbox Plaza) is a 40000 sqft open-air plaza that serves as the central meeting place for L.A. Live. The Square provides a broadcast venue featuring giant LED screens as well as a red carpet site for special events. Xbox Plaza hosted the first WWE SummerSlam Axxess event on the weekend beginning August 22, 2009, leading up to the 2009 SummerSlam event on August 23 at Staples Center. On June 24, 2010, the Square was the location for the official red carpet premiere of The Twilight Saga: Eclipse among other world premieres. The 2022 Major League Baseball All-Star Game red carpet was held at the plaza.

Peacock Theater and The Novo
Peacock Theater (previously the Nokia Theatre before June 2015 and Microsoft Theater before July 2023 ) is a music and theatre venue seating 7,100, and The Novo (previously Club Nokia) is a smaller venue with a seating capacity of 2,300 for live music and cultural events.

The theatre has hosted the ESPY Awards since 2008, as well as the American Music Awards, the Primetime Emmys, the Radio Disney Music Awards, the Billboard Music Awards, and other leading ceremonies serving the entertainment industry. The theater is so commonly used, on March 11, 2008, the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences announced with AEG that the venue would be the home to the Primetime Emmy Awards ceremony from 2008 onward.

The venue has also hosted the finale of the seventh, eighth and ninth seasons of American Idol. The 2010 MTV Video Music Awards were held at Microsoft Theater on September 12, 2010.

The first scheduled event held at the Peacock Theatre was a concert featuring the Eagles and the Dixie Chicks on October 18, 2007. Recording artist John Mayer's live album Where the Light Is: John Mayer Live in Los Angeles was recorded at the Peacock Theatre.

The Peacock Theatre will host weightlifting during the 2028 Summer Olympics and powerlifting during the 2028 Summer Paralympics.

Grammy Museum

On May 8, 2007, it was announced that the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences would establish a museum dedicated to the history of the Grammy Awards. The museum opened in December 2008 for the Grammy Awards 50th anniversary. It consists of four floors with historical music artifacts. It has featured a number of exhibits, including the John Lennon Songwriter Exhibit, which was open from October 4, 2010, to March 31, 2011. Embedded on the sidewalks at the LA Live streets are bronze disks, similar to the Hollywood Walk of Fame, honoring each year's top winners, Record of the Year, Best New Artist, Album of the Year, and Song of the Year.

Hotels and residences
The centerpiece of the district is a 54-story, 1,001-room two-hotel hybrid tower, constructed above the parking lot directly north of the Crypto.com Arena. Designed by Gensler and built by Webcor Builders, the skyscraper contains both an 879-room JW Marriott hotel on floors 3–21 and a 123-room Ritz-Carlton hotel on floors 22–26. Floors 27–52 hold 224 Residences at the Ritz Carlton condominiums. The tower's architectural design evolves from a "geometric pattern of glittering, blue-tinted glass." Thirty-four different types of glass were installed to create the uniquely patterned facade. Groundbreaking for the tower took place in June 2007. The project was completed in the first quarter of 2010.

In July 2014, Marriott Hotels opened a second two-hotel hybrid tower with 393 rooms just north across Olympic Boulevard with a Marriott Courtyard and a Residence Inn.

ESPN broadcasting studios
The second phase of development included a 12300 sqft ESPN broadcasting studio, as well as an ESPN Zone restaurant built on the corner of Figueroa Street and Chick Hearn Court. In an effort to expand coverage of West Coast sports, ESPN began broadcasting the 1 AM ET (10 PM PT) edition of SportsCenter from the studio on April 6, 2009. The ESPN Zone restaurant closed in July 2013 and was replaced by Tom's Urban 24, Smashburger and Live Basil Pizza restaurants.

Regal Cinemas
The $100 million, 140000 sqfoot, Regal Entertainment Group movie complex opened in 2009 and includes 14 screens and 3,772 seats. It includes a three-story art-deco-style atrium and an 806-seat theater called the "Regal Premiere House" intended for "lucrative" premieres. The theater complex became the West Coast flagship location for Regal, at the time of its opening, the largest theater chain in the United States. The Michael Jackson film This Is It was the opening film at the theater.

Restaurants
L.A. Live is also host to a set of mid- to upper-scale dining including Fleming's Prime Steakhouse & Wine Bar, Katsuya, Lawry's, Rock'N Fish, Rosa Mexicana, Cleo, Wolfgang Puck Bar & Grill, and Yard House.

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