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Picture
I removed the image from the page because it was confusing and/or misleading. If it was to be descriptive of the motion of the baseball, it was obviously all wrong (curveballs don't loop before reaching the catcher). If it was to show the "rotation," it was unclear how the ball was rotating in the image (nor was it explained if it's a top view or side view). Better picture would be either a curveball grip or a comparison of the actual trajectory of a curveball compared to a fastball. --Nuffle (talk) 17:44, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Citation needed?
Um, Johnny Bench, Reggie Jackson, Paul Molitor, and Rod Carew all claim that Blyleven's curve was the best they'd ever seen. Whenever players from the '70s and '80s talk about Blyleven's curve ball, they all say the same thing. How about we quote, cite and source interviews with each of these players and expand the length of the article another paragraph or two. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SeanNovack (talk • contribs) 04:49, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Altitude
Maybe some mention should be made of the difficulty of throwing a curve in high-altitude (eg. Coors Field)?

 * Does it even make a significant difference worth mention? I know the high altitude and thin air are factors, but they affect hits more then pitches.  I doubt the ball is THAT significantly impacted from a distance of 60 ft. 6 in. as opposed to the average fly ball that travels anywhere from 120-160 ft.

Maybe who cares?

The effect of altitude on curve balls is brought up on nearly every broadcast I watch when my team visits Coors field. So obviously somebody cares. I am not a physicist so I cant say that it is or is not a large factor, but it is at least made out to be one.

integral/derivative
Position is the second integral of acceleration. Really, it is. For an object with fixed mass, like a baseball, acceleration is proportioal to force. So I wrote

position is the second integral of force

This isn't strictly correct, but seems reasonable for an article of this length and technical depth. Also, it refers directly to "force", which is the subject of the preceeding two sentences, and avoids discussion of F = ma. If we want to be more precise, we can reword the sentence to get from force to acceleration to position. Swmcd 02:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

structure
The giant lump of text before the ToC needs to go. Someone needs to organize and structure this like woah.

Edited this to clean up. I maintained most of the points, but removed some errant information like the suggestion that Mike Mussina throws a curve (he throws a knuckle curve, which is a different deal). Other minor points as well. Sackpeterson 15:57, 14 July 2007 (UTC)sackpeterson

The break of a curveball may have more to do with perception and how the central and peripheral vision of the batter perceives the trajectory of the ball when he shifts his gaze, rather than an actual abrupt course change of the ball.

There is a demonstration of how this effect may work: http://illusioncontest.neuralcorrelate.com/2009/the-break-of-the-curveball/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaznuki (talk • contribs) 00:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

History
The history seems way off. Richard Willis was throwing curveballs in 1860. Powers T 11:33, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I was unable to find any evidence that the curveball had been banned from baseball. I did find a well supported researched article by Richard Herschberger at the Society for Baseball Research site that delves into a statement attributed to Harvard President Charles Eliot that was critical of the curveball. Herschberger finds that the statement was most likely uttered by Charles Eliot Norton at a Yale athletics conference in 1884 that he attended: https://sabr.org/research/deliberate-attempt-deceive-correcting-quotation-misattributed-charles-eliot-president#sdendnote2sym AMSask (talk) 20:24, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

One word or two
Throughout the article, sometimes it says "Curve ball" and sometime "curveball". Should this not be consistent? --TimothyJacobson (talk) 12:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * It should. Powers T 18:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * With one exception, I have now made them all into one word--TimothyJacobson (talk) 14:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Bronson Arroyo? I am a Reds fan and can't defend in a list of the past 100 years. (0713) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.7.163 (talk) 02:47, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Sweeping curve
This is certainly not enough for its own article. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:00, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Unless the article can be heavily expanded, I have no objection to a merger. James500 (talk) 14:49, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

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1885 St. Nicholas article
I'm about to correct the main pages's date for the St. Nicholas article. The main page currently says 1884 but the article appeared in the Oct/1885 issue of St. Nicholas. I'll also include the reference and a link to the article in google books, which is https://books.google.com/books?id=dBEbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA924.

The article, "How Science Won The Game," was written by a young George B. M. Harvey, who became famous in his own right.

The same article appeared in an 1886 book, "Boy's Book of Sports," which can be seen at https://books.google.com/books?id=WMAGAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA339.

Over the next 12 months, St. Nicholas printed followup letters spurred by the article. Though St. Nicholas was a children's magazine, these letters appear to have been written by adults. One writer asserts that he was struck out by curved pitches "twelve years ago" at the Naval Academy. A few of the letters discuss the physical reason the ball curves. At least one letter claims the curve is an optical illusion. Here are links to the letters that I've found.

Dec/1885 https://books.google.com/books?id=UWU3AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA154

Feb/1886 https://books.google.com/books?id=UWU3AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA314

May/1886 https://books.google.com/books?id=txEbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA555

Jun/1886 https://books.google.com/books?id=txEbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA636

Aug/1886 https://books.google.com/books?id=txEbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA796

Oct/1886 https://books.google.com/books?id=txEbAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA955

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Variations

 * 1 to 5 curve
 * 2 to 8 curve

In the anime Diamond no Ace character Umemiya Seiichi pitches two types of curveball: slow curveball and fast curveball (which he calls power curveball) - both have the same trajectory. Is there such a thing in reality?

 * rainbow curve (not rainbow pitch which is a different name for eephus pitch) Setenzatsu (talk) 17:45, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

GIF
The gif at the top of the article depicts the ball breaking armside(toward a right hitting batter from a right handed pitcher). A curveball breaks gloveside or straight down. I think it should be removed or replaced with an accurate description.Tommax16 (talk) 14:40, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, likewise. We need as many South Africans as possible on this place to ensure our lovely country doesn't get under-represented or worse, misrepresented. One extreme example is how the article on Apartheid became another Israel-Palestine conflict page, virtually ignoring what Apartheid really was, a South African system, and part of our history. So, yep, it's great to see another South African on Wikipedia! Impi 19:25, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Clock towers and the Clock Tower
As there are no clock towers called the Clock Tower that I know of (or probably at all), there is no need to move Clock Tower to Clock Tower (Westminster). ed g2s •  talk  00:27, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I agree the case sensitive of wikipedia is a bit odd, I've added disambiguation link to the top of Clock Tower which I think was needed. ed g2s •  talk  16:42, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Robert Lee Wallace's work
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Robert_Wallace2/publications is this guy's images or articles free to use, or are they under copyright? There's no article for a picture of bacteria that he has, only a listing here on the organisms with least neurons article, with it at 200. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wolven1 (talk • contribs) 21:13, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Link through to "quotations" ?
Might be useful? Anybody knows how to do that?--SvenAERTS (talk) 13:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Contradictory information
The article states, under "Public Domain", "A work which is not copyrighted is in the public domain, and may be freely copied by anyone", but later on it says, "Seeing something on the Internet without a copyright notice does not mean that it is in the public domain". This needs to be clarified. Thinker78 (talk) 16:47, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

 * It is perfectly clear: if something is not copyrighted it is in the public domain, but simply not having a copyright notice displayed is not enough to prove something is in the public domain as nowadays copyright is assumed by default even if one does not write ™, ®, © or "All rights reserved" or something like that. Veverve (talk) 10:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Poor introduction and proposed replacement
I find the first line of this "short version" FAQ very confusing and hard to logically unwind. "The absence of a copyright notice does not mean that a work may be freely used." It starts with a negative of a complex situation, so I cannot imagine how a newbie makes sense of this. Instead, I'd propose something much more of a tight narrative. This is an explanation I gave recently for a virtual edit-a-thon participant which might be useful as a new starting point:

 * Copyright is an intellectual property right that protects a creator's particular expression of an idea. By default, any text or image content on the web or in print should be assumed to be under a traditional form of copyright and must not be copy and pasted into Wikipedia. One can only copy and paste content if that person knows in the affirmative that it is is free - either it is public domain (a very specific legal term pertaining to the age of the content or the creator's release terms) or available under a free license (typically Creative Commons, see details below). It is atypical and uncommon for text to be copy/pasted into Wikipedia in this manner. However, the facts, information, or knowledge within a copyrighted text are not protected. So that content can be restated or rewritten and is the basis for the vast majority of Wikipedia writing activities.

The rest of the details (the chart, fair use, etc) can be an elaboration on this. Feedback welcome. -- Fuzheado | Talk 10:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Postcard
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 * I own the card and the photo represented on the card: you do not own the rights. You did not take the picture or drew the painting on this postcard. Thus, you cannot upload it, unless on fair use; but uploading it under fair use would require discerning whether it is worth uploading or not, and in this case it does not seem to be not worth it. Veverve (talk) 10:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

CC BY SA 1.0
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Simon Bradstreet

Simon Bradstreet (baptized March 18, 1603/4 – March 27, 1697) was a New England merchant, politician and colonial administrator who served as the last governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Arriving in Massachusetts on the Winthrop Fleet in 1630, Bradstreet was almost constantly involved in the politics of the colony but became its governor only in 1679.

He served on diplomatic missions and as agent to the crown in London, and also served as a commissioner to the New England Confederation. He was politically moderate, arguing minority positions in favor of freedom of speech and for accommodation of the demands of King Charles II following his restoration to the throne.

Bradstreet was married to Anne, the daughter of Massachusetts co-founder Thomas Dudley and New England's first published poet. He was a businessman, investing in land and shipping interests. Due to his advanced age (he died at 93) Cotton Mather referred to him as the "Nestor of New England".

Early life
Simon Bradstreet was baptized on March 18, 1603/4 in Horbling, Lincolnshire, the second of three sons of Simon and Margaret Bradstreet. His father was the rector of the parish church, and was descended from minor Irish nobility. His grand nephew via his brother John Bradstreet was to become Sir Simon Bradstreet, 1st Baronet. With his father a vocal Nonconformist, the young Simon acquired his Puritan religious views early in life. At the age of 16, Bradstreet entered Emmanuel College, Cambridge. He studied there for two years, before entering the service of the Earl of Lincoln as an assistant to Thomas Dudley in 1622. There is some uncertainty about whether Bradstreet returned to Emmanuel College in 1623–1624. According to Venn, a Simon Bradstreet attended Emmanuel during this time, receiving an M.A. degree, but genealogist Robert Anderson is of the opinion that this was not the same individual. During one of Bradstreet's stints at Emmanuel he was recommended by John Preston as a tutor or governor to Lord Rich, son of the Earl of Warwick. Rich would have been 12 in 1623, and Preston was named Emmanuel's master in 1622.

Bradstreet took over Dudley's position when the latter moved temporarily to Boston in 1624. On Dudley's return several years later, Bradstreet then briefly served as a steward to the Dowager Countess of Warwick. In 1628 he married Dudley's daughter Anne, when she was 16.

In 1628, Dudley and others from the Earl of Lincoln's circle formed the Massachusetts Bay Company, with a view toward establishing a Puritan colony in North America. Bradstreet became involved with the company in 1629, and in April 1630, the Bradstreets joined the Dudleys and colonial Governor John Winthrop on the fleet of ships that carried them to Massachusetts Bay. There they founded Boston, the capital of the Massachusetts Bay Colony.

Massachusetts Bay Colony
After a brief stay in Boston, Bradstreet made his first residence in Newtowne (later renamed Cambridge), near the Dudleys in what is now Harvard Square. In 1637, during the Antinomian Controversy, he was one of the magistrates that sat at the trial of Anne Hutchinson, and voted for her banishment from the colony. In 1639, he was granted land in Salem, near that of John Endecott. He lived there for a time, moving in 1634 to Ipswich before becoming one of the founding settlers of Andover in 1648.

In 1666, his Andover home was destroyed by fire, supposedly because of "the carelessness of the maid". He had varied business interests, speculating in land, and investing with other colonists in a ship involved in the coasting trade. In 1660, he purchased shares in the Atherton Trading Company, a land development company with interests in the "Narragansett Country" (present-day southern Rhode Island). He became one of its leading figures, serving on the management committee, and publishing handbills advertising its lands.

At the time of his death he owned more than 1500 acre of land in five communities spread across the colony. He was known to own two slaves, a woman named Hannah and her daughter Billah.

Bradstreet was heavily involved in colonial politics. When the council met for the first time in Boston, Bradstreet was selected to serve as colonial secretary, a post he would hold until 1644. He was politically moderate, arguing against legislation and judicial decisions punishing people for speaking out against the governing magistrates. Bradstreet was also outspoken in opposition to the witch hysteria that infested his home town of Salem, culminating in numerous trials in 1692.

He served for many years as a commissioner representing Massachusetts to the New England Confederation, an organization that coordinated matters of common interest (principally defense) among most of the New England colonies. He was regularly chosen as an assistant, serving on the council that dominated the public affairs of the colony, but did not reach higher office until 1678, when he was first elected deputy governor under John Leverett. He was against military actions against some of the colony's foreign neighbors, opposing official intervention in a French Acadian dispute in the 1640s, and also spoke against attacking the New Netherland during the First Anglo-Dutch War (1652–1654).

Bradstreet was sent on a number of diplomatic missions, dealing with settlers, other English colonies, and the Dutch in New Amsterdam. In 1650, he was sent to Hartford, Connecticut, where the Treaty of Hartford was negotiated to determine the boundary between the English colonies and New Amsterdam. In the following years he negotiated an agreement with settlers in York and Kittery to bring them under Massachusetts jurisdiction.

Following the 1660 restoration of Charles II to the throne of England, colonial authorities again became concerned about preserving their charter rights. Bradstreet in 1661 headed a legislative committee to "consider and debate such matters touching their patent rights, and privileges, and duty to his Majesty, as should to them seem proper." The letter the committee drafted reiterated the colony's charter rights, and also included declarations of allegiance and loyalty to the crown. Bradstreet and John Norton were chosen as agents to deliver the letter to London. Charles renewed the charter, but sent the agents back to Massachusetts with a letter attaching conditions to his assent. The colony was expected, among other things, to expand religious tolerance to include the Church of England and religious minorities like the Quakers. The agents were harshly criticized by hardline factions of the legislature, but Bradstreet defended the need to accommodate the king's wishes as the safest course to take.

How to respond to the king's demands divided the colony; Bradstreet was part of the moderate "accommodationist" faction arguing that the colony should obey the king's wishes. This faction lost the debate to the hardline "commonwealth" faction, who were in favor of aggressively maintaining the colony's charter rights, led through the 1660s by governors John Endecott and Richard Bellingham. With Charles distracted by war with the Dutch and domestic politics in the late 1660s, the issue lay dormant until the mid-1670s. Relations between colony and crown deteriorated when the king then renewed demands for legislative and religious reforms, which hardline magistrates again resisted.

Governor
In early 1679 Governor John Leverett died, and Bradstreet as deputy succeeded him. Leverett had opposed accommodation of the king's demands, and the change to an accommodationist leadership was too late. Bradstreet would turn out to be the last governor under its original charter. His deputy, Thomas Danforth was from the commonwealth faction. During his tenure, crown agent Edward Randolph was in the colony, attempting to enforce the Navigation Acts, under which certain types of trade involving the colony were illegal. Randolph's enforcement attempts were vigorously resisted by both the merchant classes and sympathetic magistrates despite Bradstreet's attempts to accommodate Randolph. Juries frequently refused to condemn ships accused of violating the acts; in one instance Bradstreet tried three times to get a jury to change its verdict. Randolph's attempts to enforce the navigation laws eventually convinced the colony's general court that it needed to create its own mechanisms for their enforcement. A bill to establish a naval office was vigorously debated in 1681, with the house of deputies, dominated by the commonwealth party, opposing the idea, and the moderate magistrates supporting it. The bill that finally passed was a victory for the commonwealth party, making enforcement difficult and subject to reprisal lawsuits. Bradstreet refused to actually implement the law, and Randolph published open challenges to it. Bradstreet was in some degree vindicated when he won re-election in 1682, and he then used his judicial authority to further undermine the law's effects.

Randolph's threats to report the colonial legislature's intransigence prompted it to dispatch agents to England to argue the colony's case; however, their powers were limited. Shortly after their arrival in late 1682, the Lords of Trade issued an ultimatum to the colony: either grant its agents wider powers, including the ability to negotiate modifications to the charter, or risk having the charter voided. The general court responded by issuing the agents instructions to take a hard line. Following legal processes begun in 1683, the charter was formally annulled on October 23, 1684.

Dominion, and temporary return as governor
King Charles II in 1684 established the Dominion of New England. Bradstreet's brother-in-law Joseph Dudley, who had served as one of the colonial agents, was commissioned by James as President of the Council for New England in 1685 by King James II, and took control of the colony in May 1686. Bradstreet was offered a position on Dudley's council, but refused. Dudley was replaced in December 1686 by Sir Edmund Andros, who came to be greatly detested in Massachusetts for vacating existing land titles, and seizing Congregational church properties for Church of England religious services. Andros' high-handed rule was also unpopular in the other colonies of the dominion.

The idea of revolt against Andros arose as early as January 1689, before news of the December 1688 Glorious Revolution reached Boston. After William III and Mary II took the throne, Increase Mather and Sir William Phips, Massachusetts agents in London, petitioned them and the Lords of Trade for restoration of the Massachusetts charter. Mather furthermore convinced the Lords of Trade to delay notifying Andros of the revolution. He had already dispatched to Bradstreet a letter containing news that a report (prepared before the revolution) stating that the charter had been illegally annulled, and that the magistrates should "prepare the minds of the people for a change." News of the revolution apparently reached some individuals as early as late March, and Bradstreet is one of several possible organizers of the mob that formed in Boston on April 18, 1689. He, along with other pre-Dominion magistrates and some members of Andros' council, addressed an open letter to Andros on that day calling for his surrender in order to quiet the mob. Andros, who had fled to the safety of Castle Island, surrendered, and was eventually returned to England after several months in confinement.

In the wake of Andros' arrest, a council of safety was formed, with Bradstreet as its president. The council drafted a letter to William and Mary, justifying the colony's acts in language similar to that used by William in his proclamations when he invaded England. The council fairly quickly decided to revert to the government as it had been under the old charter. In this form Bradstreet resumed the governorship, and was annually re-elected governor until 1692. He had to defend the colony against those who were opposed to the reintroduction of the old rule, who he characterized in reports to London as malcontents and strangers stirring up trouble. The colony's northern frontier was also engulfed in King William's War, where there was frequent Indian raiding. Bradstreet approved the expeditions of Sir William Phips in 1690 against Acadia and Quebec. In 1691 William and Mary issued a charter establishing the Province of Massachusetts Bay, and appointed Phips its first governor. Bradstreet was offered a position on Phips' council when the new governor arrived in 1692, but declined. Bradstreet died at his home in Salem on 27 March 1697 at the age of 93; due to his advanced age he was called the "Nestor of New England" by Cotton Mather.

Family and legacy
Bradstreet was buried in the Charter Street Burying Ground in Salem. Poetry by his first wife Anne was published in England in 1650, including verses containing expressions of enduring love for her husband. Anne Bradstreet died in 1672; the couple had eight children, of whom seven survived infancy. Their children included Dudley and John. In 1676 Bradstreet married Ann Gardner, the widow of Captain Joseph Gardner, son of Thomas Gardner of Salem.

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=July 2004=

Music for July Days
I recommend Summer Breeze by Seals & Crofts. It's very easygoing '70s AM rock. Stuff I like, because I'm an old-ass fogey, at the ripe age of eighteen-and-eight-months. Pleasant dreams, mon cher ami. Mike H 02:29, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Seals and Crofts has to be about the fifth-worst "band" of all time. blankfaze | •• | •• 02:47, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Gasp! You can't be serious! I love them! And you will too, because I'll brainwash you into doing so! Pah! Mike H 15:34, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)

More Music for July Days
Sorry about cutting out of the chat so abruptly. I'm researching Christie Clark and one of my windows started downloading pop-up leech thingies, and it cut off every window I had open.

To answer your question, I got the barnstar from Hcheney, and to make this subheading make sense, I recommend the greatest hits of Sly and the Family Stone. Mike H 23:50, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)

 * FWIW, you're a kickass contributor yourself and you should have one, too. Mike H 23:54, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, I was just playin' around. I'm happy for you.  blankfaze | •• | •• 23:55, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * BTW, Sly and the Family Stone? Shit, folk.  blankfaze | •• | •• 23:56, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * What, it's good stuff! Plus, there are so many good songs on it, not just stuff they play on 107.3 like Hot Fun in the Summertime or Everyday People. Mike H 23:57, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * How's about I make some recommendations? Try Figure 8 by Elliott Smith or Good News for People Who Love Bad News by Modest Mouse.  blankfaze | •• | •• 23:59, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * If you buy me the CDs. :-P Or at least tell me if I can download it off Morpheus or not. Mike H 00:03, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha. blankfaze | •• | •• 00:05, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I want to try out your music. I'd go see if I could get it right now, but I'm sweeping my system for spyware and then I'm going to reboot. Mike H 00:12, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)
 * I am now back and rebooted. Mike H 01:00, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

The West Wing
Yeah, I looked at that ToC and boggled. I did some reformatting, but I see I forgot to add an intro paragraph -- or even a link back to The West Wing (television). --wwoods 21:49, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Your Signature
Please take yr livejournal off your WP sig line. Fine on your user page, but it is burdensome to all to have more than your user & user talk pages splattered on everything you sign. Thanks.--Jerzy(t) 00:15, 2004 Jul 6 (UTC)
 * May I ask what the problem is with having that in the sig, exactly? Just curious. :-) Mike H 00:20, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, again, and thanks for the graceful retraction, which is much more important (to me personally) than the offense. (What can i say, i'm weird in general and part of that weirdness is knowing that i am what you called me, and just getting on with it, whatever the fallout of that is.)
 * Well, sorry, my signature is my signature. I do with it what I want.  blankfaze | •• | •• 00:56, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

And congrats on adminship; your ability to retreat a little on this (in the face of what i don't doubt was, for you, extreme provocation) IMO bodes well for your working into the role productively. (Hmm, having said that, i guess i should clear state that the incident was not at test for you.)

As you've asked only a rhetorical question, i'm not going to presume on yr hospitality by trying to clarify for you my thinking on yr sig, tho i find you now much closer to appearing receptive than in yr 1st response to me. But i'd be glad to discuss if you care to.

I will, tho, state a fact (w/o assuming you'll consider it relevant): i didn't intend to "[go] around ... changing your signatures", and i think you'll agree at least on reflection that you invited the inference that you either construed that intent or misjudged the actual extent of my activity. No offense taken, but since we're still in the context of your being offended and our communication not (yet, at least) being fluent, i consider it best to keep our fact-base as clean as possible, even in what seems to me a minor detail. Finally, my compliments on the Cyrillic chars in your new sig; i think it's clever & attractive even if the word (words?) is just "Talk" or a synonym. My acquaintance w/ Rooskiy is so weak (and the font so small on my screen) that i can't speculate further, but my curiosity was picqued by what appeared to me to be an upper-case Deh amid lower-case letters. [shrug].
 * Mmmhm. My opinion on the matter is, although you were only "trimming" them to save space, that it is rude and inappropriate to edit someone else's signature without either permission from the user or a community consensus.  That's just my opinion.  But I'm content to put this in the past.  It's not worth fighting over.  Wastes time that can be used for something constructive.  :-)  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  17:09, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks. It's "(беседа!) (besyeda)" and it means "(Conversation!)"... I love Russkiy, I'm trying to learn.  Anyway, one small link isn't worth a war.  So... that's it!  :-)  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  17:09, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks again for responsible communication on this. --Jerzy(t) 16:56, 2004 Jul 8 (UTC)

 * Я не понимаю русский яазик - говарите по-англиский, пожалуйста! --Ardonik 21:37, Jul 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * I am only learning Russian, but I think the gist of that was "I don't understand Russian well - Use English, please?" - If that's what you said, well, then, too bad! I like Russian, so I's gonna use it!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  22:02, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * You're correct, of course (and I'm pretty sure you know more Russian than I do.) --Ardonik 09:28, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)
 * -P. nice, though!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  11:36, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Nomination
No problem. Good luck, and be cautious with blocks and deletions. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 14:32, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Nomination II
You're very welcome; I know a good user when I see one. PP! -- Merovingian  ✍  Talk  14:40, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

You're a sysop!
I'm pleased to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now a sysop. Please read the Administrators' reading list to learn about your new privileges and responsibilities and what special tasks sysops perform. Cheers! Cecropia | Talk 14:43, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Aye, commander. blankfaze | •• | •• 15:01, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

On the pleasures of the Fish
Hi, Blankfaze: Thanks for the thanks! Glad to do it! I don't believe in running discussions, esp. in someone's nomination, but you might have wondered what was going on with the "fish" thing, now that the dust has settled. I'm in New York, where it's quite the thing to do Christian-bashing. A number of pundits have remarked that Catholics are the last societal group it's OK to criticize. Well, since Bush this has extended to almost any Christian belief more conservative than Unitarian/Univeralists. I don't agree that Bush's issue is to push a "christian" agenda, but that's just politics--no big deal. The "fish" however--you see, it has become quite the thing around here to make fun of this symbol (which is drawn almost the same as your fish), but add details. It started with a "Darwin fish" (put legs on it) which is pretty cute, but has evolved into nastier incarnations. So I put 2+2 together and got 5! Anyway, hope you get the opportunity to use your sysopness to make Wikipedia prettier and nicer! Cheers! Cecropia | Talk 15:05, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Ohhhhhhhh. I see!  Scouts honour, my fish is a symbol for nothing other than my crappy garage band.  I shall do my best to uphold the code of the sysop!  blankfaze | •• | •• 15:10, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I'm sure your garage band is better than Bill & Ted's. :) -- Cecropia | Talk 17:51, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Desktop
I like your desktop and the thumbnails to My Documents for instance. May I ask how you got that theme or whatever you call it? (I know there not called thumbnails)
 * Thanks! The icons for My Documents and most of my other stuff are from an icon set called... XP iCandy, I think.  You should be able to find it using a Google search.  To change icons, though, you'll need a program like IconPackager.  blankfaze | •• | •• 17:47, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Objections on FAC
Blankfaze — on IRC earlier you seemed to be quite upset and hostile about my objection to Mt. St. Helens on Featured Article Candidates, so I thought I'd just drop a note to explain why I throw objections even at good articles (like that one), and hopefully clear up any bad feeling.

Featured Articles is (currently) the only validation / quality check system we have on Wikipedia, and we trumpet it as the "Best of Wikipedia". These are the articles we direct people to when they say that Wikipedia can't work or can't produce decent articles. Because of this, I think our Featured Articles should be as good as possible; not necessarily perfect, but close. Accordingly, I will object to an article if A) I can see any obvious flaws, or B) If I can see any obvious way it could be improved. This will seem like "nitpicking" and "petty" objections sometimes, but it's not because I'm being malicious, rather it's because I want Wikipedia to be represented well. If I'm being over-picky, and this is entirely possible in cases, then I'm happy to trust the concept of consensus in Wikipedia; if enough people support, and there's only one objection, it will still be promoted. — Matt 19:54, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, thanks for explaining, but... it's still stupid, in my opinion. blankfaze | •• | •• 19:59, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Sure, it's fine and normal for people to disagree on Wikipedia. I guess it's more of a problem when people start disagreeing in ways that degenerate into insults; as an admin I'm sure you're aware of the No personal attacks policy. It's much more productive and pleasant to say why you disagree with an objection, rather than labelling it stupid / lousy / petty etc. — Matt 20:23, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Matt, I explained it to you to the point of exhaustion. I guess you just don't get it.  So don't make it out like I'm just attacking you instead of making an effort to explain first.  blankfaze | •• | •• 20:35, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Indeed, I "just don't get it"; that's fine, we can have different views on things — you did indeed go to some effort on IRC to explain why you disagreed to the objection. I just want to encourage you to avoid hostility when expressing your disagreement, even when we can't reconcile our opinions; surely that something we should all try to do? — Matt 21:00, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Aye, most certaintly. blankfaze | •• | •• 21:01, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Sigh. I'm not sure what your agreeing "Aye, most certainly" to, but it's not the "avoid hostility when expressing your disagreement" sentence: ; I'm a bit disappointed. — Matt 14:31, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, sorry that you're disappointed in me, but the user is an asshole. How would he feel if I just went around "trimming" his signature everywhere?  It's very rude.  This was a disagreement.  He asked me to change my signature and I declined.  When he started "trimming" my signatures, it went from disagreement to just plain rude, asshole-ish gestures on his part.  blankfaze | •••• 14:45, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Note: I've since apologised.  blankfaze | •••• 15:00, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Blahblah
Thanks, you're so nice. Peace Profound! -- Merovingian ✍  Talk  09:53, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Personal page delete
Oh, I missed that one entirely. Thanks for telling me. Yours, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 00:58, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Falcon K. and RfA
First, my condolences on your recent adminship and welcome to our world of struggle. Second, re: your recent removal of F.K.'s RfA self-nom:

"vote has been static for several days, doesn't seem like he'll be supported by anyone else."

 * Not a reason for removal;
 * A static vote with friendly opposition is very different from an active vote with people rushing to oppose, the reason for the early-removal guidelines
 * Content with explicit "listed here until " tags should be kept until that date;
 * Again, exceptions in RfA policy were not initially written for such mild cases; civility trumps the letter of the law when at all possible
 * RfA requests are left up for a week for many reasons, one being that wiki is patient - many visit RfA once a week if that often, and should not be denied a chance to comment on recent requests;
 * If you simply must flout convention, suggest it on the talk page and reach consensus with others first.

+sj + 07:01, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

But it doesn't really belong there, according to me, the numerous people (including  numerous admins) I asked beforehand on IRC, and... oh yeah, RfA policy. -blankfaze

 * I'm certain you mean well, but getting support from Lysine on IRC doesn't count as reaching consensus with "numerous people"; silence != support. Even at the best of times, IRC is no substitute for a talk-page note.
 * As for the RfA policy exception for unlikely nominations, it has generally been applied to unfriendly 1/14/5 votes rather than to friendly "great work, but" 1/5/1 votes ... and there was an outstanding request for more information from Falcon by Cecropia, which he should see even if the vote will fail. +sj + 21:13, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Google Me
Hi there, BF, my computer stinks, but this might help in googling my real name in quotes. Good day! Peace Profound! -- Merovingian ✍  Talk  19:08, Jul 8, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know, I found it right after you left IRC. Hormuz Strait, eh?  Nifty.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  19:24, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Rind et al.
Regarding youd vote for keeping the article about Rind et al. I would like to know why you do not agree with me that an encyclopedia article should not be named after the name of only one of the authors of a scientific study. Rind has certainly written more than one study, should they be named Rind et al. II, Rind et al. III, ..., and Rind et al. CCXIV? Why do you think this article needs its own article at all rather than being covered under "pedophilia" or so? Get-back-world-respect 03:56, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * It's not that I don't agree with you. I don't really care about the article, or what it is called.  However, I'm very familiar with the deletion policy, and there's nothing in about about the article to merit deletion.  I voted accordingly.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  16:38, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

A Note to Read on July Days
Didn't see you in chat last afternoon or evening. Now I got to have the turn of being terribly lonely. Drop me a note, then. :-) Mike H 15:24, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)

RfA
Thanks for the heads up, I've withdrawn my vote. How is adminship working out for you? --H. C HENEY 06:12, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Pretty nicely, just been deleting speedy candidates mostly. Got into a revert war with an anon (See Talk:Middle East).  But anyway, pretty uneventful.  Just deletin' them SDCs.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  06:29, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Arlene Phillips
I am new to Wikipedia, and have contributed a couple of things so far - mainly under talk topics. I have seen that you are pretty active, so I thought I'd address my question to you. I want to create a new page for Arlene Phillips a UK choreographer and director of Musicals. Should I create it as Arlene Phillips OBE, or just plain Arlene Phillips? Some pages have one format, and others another. Please advise. --Martin TB 11:15, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * First of all, I'd like to say welcome to Wikipedia. Secondly, when placing messages on my talk page, I just ask that you use a ==Level 2 heading== to head your comment :-).  And thirdly, you should create the article at Arlene Phillips, and the first sentence should begin "Arlene Phillips, OBE (born such and such) is...".  Glad to help.  Feel free to ask me anything about Wikipedia; I'll probably know.  I'm also an administrator, in case you ever need to talk to one for some reason.  See you around!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  11:53, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt response. Sorry about the heading, I did see that I should have done it, but wasn't sure how to create it - Now I do. Still getting to grips with the formatting styles - there seem to be a lot of different layouts! I'll do Arlene's page sometime next week as I am about to go away for the weekend. --Martin TB 12:21, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * That's fine about the heading, glad to educate you :-). Yes, there are various different layouts in use, but try to use one that looks professional and encyclopaedic.  But don't fret over it.  The beauty of Wikipedia is that, if you make a mistake, sooner or later someone else will come along and correct it.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  12:49, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Simpson v. Savoie
The only reason I listed it as a speedy candidate is because it has been voted on at vfd and the consensus is to delete, but the database keeps returning an error every time I try it. If you know what to do with it then feel free to sort it out. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 01:32, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Alright, well, I thought I looked for a VfD discussion but I guess I didn't look hard enough. Or something.  Sorry.  Next time, write a better edit summary.  :-)  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  01:35, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes my bad, don't edit wikipedia articles at 2.40 in the morning when you're ill... -- Graham ☺ | Talk 01:38, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * :-) blankfaze | (беседа!)  01:38, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Barnstar
Neutrality awarded me a barnstar on 12 July 2004; I've moved it to my main user page. blankfaze | (беседа!)  08:27, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Great news for you, mon cher ami! :-D Mike H 16:07, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

MySkin
I want to switch the skin but I don't know how. What do I do? Mike H 01:42, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * In Special:Preferences you can choose your skin. However, MySkin is not actually a skin, but an empty template for people to construct personal skins using CSS.  See Gallery of user styles.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  01:45, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * How come I can't see any pictures? I've put yours in. Mike H 01:59, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * You can't see any pictures? That's odd.  Oh, wait!  You're using Internet Explorer, aren't you?  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  02:00, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I am. I switched already. I wanted to see things. Speaking of seeing things, check these out: and . Mike H 16:06, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah the skin I use like... doesn't work in IE. Coz IE is shit and doesn't support CSS well.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  22:24, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

See User_talk:Ke4roh
I replied to your comment. -- ke4roh 03:16, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

west wizzl
what up dogg. can you point me to the rules? I tried to find some last nite but this site is f-ing huge. and who's lord of the west wing site and why do they think their style is so cool and untouchable? I know every character's dating history- I need more. Describing the parade of the character's emotionz is fine but that's not all the show is made up of. Kzz-nizzle-bam-snip-snap-sack

hey-
I just realized you really did only take out one edit I did. It was less tasteful than the others, but not an untrue statement. Anyway, sorry I got mad at you for a minute. thankz, McKzzl Hofferstein
 * Agreed. It wasn't untrue, at all.  But it was... oddly worded.  And not really relevant.  But anyway, keep doing good work. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  11:29, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Images in WikiProject Pokénav templates
As I said in my Edit Summary, please go to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokénav page before removing any more images from this WikiProject's templates to support your view there. Thanks,--Fern 13:03, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I really have more important things to do. This is silly.  Maybe I'll stop by there.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:10, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Adminship

 * First of all I'd like to offer my condolences for your failed nomination on RfA. As you know, I supported you, as I do and will continue to do with just about anyone Hcheney nominates. While I realise that you have made a few mistakes, such as blanking a talk page, I don't think any mistakes on your part were anything more than honest mistakes. And I think you'd make a fine admin. So don't get discouraged. Just take a month and go to work. Just do good work. Then in a month, someone can nominate you again, and hopefully, you'll make it that time. Good luck, my friend.blankfaze | (беседа!)  11:52, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I really appreciate your kind words. I'll continue editing, of course (currently I'm working on a Governor of Florida project). So thanks for supporting me, and better luck next time, I guess. ;) Neutrality 15:51, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Captions
Hi, Blankfaze, I've not long ago created WikiProject Writing Captions, and I'd like to invite your comments, and if you're interested, your participation before I link to it from the regular places. Thanks! -- ke4roh 21:33, Jul 18, 2004 (UTC)

Talk:Fuck
please read and comment. Philip Baird Shearer 13:33, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Revert
Please don't make reverts without explanation. anthony (see warning)
 * There is no explanation required. YOU DO NOT CHANGE THE FEATURED ARTICLE.  PERIOD.  User:Raul654 changes to featured article.  NOT User:Anthony DiPierro.  OK?
 * Where is this policy outlined? anthony (see warning)
 * It isn't. It is de facto! blankfaze |  (беседа!)  11:38, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Anthony, do not listen to him! It is fair game to modify anything that you see fit to! Do not let the cabal with an agenda to bring about bias to this incredible project leave you bitter! Keep up the fight!205.188.116.70 02:01, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Vandalism
Wow. I wonder who you pissed off? Morwen - Talk 13:16, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Anthony DiPierro. We editwarred over Template:Feature this morning.  Fucking jesus.  Motherfucker ever MOVED my user page.  Swear to god, these kids...  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:19, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Maybe someone just knows that you are a sockpuppet. Why would you ask that. You know who.
 * Haha. Who am I a sockpuppet of?  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:24, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Why not tell the rest of us? Morwen - Talk 13:28, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Why would I ask that? Maybe because I don't know who.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:29, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Really stupid discussion with idiot anon, Part Une
Just look it up. Its obvious. I'm sure your IP address matches that of your other username. If not, look at what user departed the same day as you came here. And look at who nominated you for admin. Note that you didn't even deny it. I bet you dont even believe in christ. See you in hell. When we die. Since I'm a vandal and your a heathen. You should be afraid.
 * Haha. Look it up.  Look it up where?  In The Silly Anon's Big Book of Imaginary Sockpuppets?  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:36, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I dunno who left the day I came here. And Fennec nominated me.  So what?  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:40, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * According to Template:dyk, you're a sockpuppet of User:Guanaco. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:46, 2004 Jul 20 (UTC)
 * Sighs. BTW, Meelar, thanks for aiding in the vandalfighting.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:49, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * No problem. Why Guanaco, though? [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:51, 2004 Jul 20 (UTC)
 * I haven't the slightest clue. Apparently he accused Hadal of being Guanaco too.  Who knows.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:55, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * It's too goddamn stupid to merit anything more than a glance. Christ, you're immature.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  13:55, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * No, I don't believe in JC. It's just an expression.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  14:58, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't believe in hell either, I'm afraid. blankfaze | (беседа!)  15:01, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * If you say so... blankfaze | (беседа!)  15:05, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)

It's Guanaco because I'm the one who first blocked Mr. Treason. Guanaco 17:52, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Really stupid discussion with idiot anon, Part Deux
Friend, or maybe another sockpuppet? Gay lover perhaps? Just come out of the closet already. I won't pick on you. So your gay, and he's in the closet? You guys are confusing me. prove it and prove i'm anthony he could send a picture of himself kissing a woman. that would prove it what about children, does he like little kids? what about 17 year olds? how about 14?
 * This is stupid. Don't threaten my friend. Mike H 15:06, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Because if two males are friends, and one is gay, and the other doesn't discriminate against gays, they must be doing it, right? Grow up. Mike H 15:15, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * WTF? He isn't gay, and I am. What the hell is your point? Mike H 15:20, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * He is NOT gay. Clean the wax out of your ears, or get better glasses. Mike H 15:22, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * God, anthony, you are one of the most immature people I've ever come into contact with. Haha, I'm not "in the closet"... I'm as straight as an arrow!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  15:23, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Prove he isn't gay? What, do you want me to ask him for some sex, and then he's supposed to say no? Is that "proof"? This is asinine and childish. Mike H 15:26, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Prove it? LMAO.  You're so immature, DiPierro!  You know very well that I can't prove a thing because you're behind a silly AOL proxy.  It's the same reason I haven't blocked your IP.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  15:30, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, I actually have a picture of myself kissing a gal. But you can't have it!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  15:30, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'm no paedophile. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  15:30, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * He is 17, so that makes a bit of sense. Mike H 15:37, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * Shut the fuck up, Tony. Neutrality 02:54, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Guys, quit feeding trolls. It's for the best. Anthony, if that really is you, I thought better of you. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 15:39, 2004 Jul 20 (UTC)

Blankfaze is a corrupt and power-hungry liar. His attempts for Wiki status are so desperate that on his user page he takes credit for other, anonymous members' hard work! For it was I who created the article on the half of Outkast known as Big Boi. Yet he takes credit for my initiative! Weed out these Wikipedia vandals and sycophants now, while we still have our chance at defeating them and their menace!205.188.116.70 01:59, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, I dunno whote created Big Boi, but it was a substub when I came across it... I wrote 95% of it, that's why I "take credit"... blankfaze | (беседа!)  02:16, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

BTW, it makes perfect sense that he be Guanaco. I think you are right, Anthony. The cabal has used such tactics before, whereby they employ aliases in order to create an illusion of support for their corrupt and deplorable actions. Blankfaze was one who backed Guanaco's Crusade against me. And, now, suddenly, when they think they're rid of me, he tries to take credit for my articles. Also, I must say, I love the obscene language and use of personal attack present so entirely through this page. Nice to see that they support the fucking standards that they accuse me of breaking! DOWN WITH THE CABAL OF CORRUPTION!205.188.116.70 02:06, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * LMAO. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  02:16, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

For those who do not believe Guanaco is actually Blankfaze, take a look at exactly which two members have reverted my edits, in a futile attempt to whitewash the truth of the issue! This is a 17-year-old brat we're dealing with, as most of the Wik's problem users are but arrogant and spoiled children! (I'd love to have seen these whitebred punks survive even a day in the ghettos!) Do not let Wikipedia become a playground for children who are interested in removing this site's legitimacy!205.188.116.70 02:22, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"vandalism"
hello, I just noticed your message to 209.135.35.83 on User talk:209.135.35.83. This user isn't, in the strict technical sense of the term, committing "vandalism"; the problem is, in some ways, worse; he is a tenacious POV warrior. I have just listed him on Requests for arbitration. Care to add anything? -- Viajero 16:22, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't know what he was doing, I was just warning him for another user who told me he wa vandalising. Oh, btw, He's been banned for 24 hours, if you weren't aware.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  16:25, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Your graciousness
Wow.. my first award! I'll cherish it, to be sure. I must say, it sure put a smile on my face; something I needed after a day of tumult (both on- and offline). Thank you so much for the recognition, and the flatteringly positive feedback. You're a sweet one. :) -- Hadal 19:25, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * No problem. You deserve it.  Great, great work.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  19:27, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Bloodaxe
You wrote on clean-up that Bloodaxe was reminicent of vomit. I laughed. I love colorful descriptions like that, though I guess they raise some hackles. Many times I've been tempted to describe an article as "a steaming pile of monkey-shit", but stopped short. Sometimes out of decorum. Mostly out of a sense of fairness towards monkey-shit. - Nunh-huh 20:34, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * :-D - blankfaze | (беседа!)  00:20, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Trebor: IMO
Hi, whoops, sorry. I edit pages but am too lazy to log in :P I have a page at http://wiki.frath.net/index.php?title=User:Trebor, and deleted that page because I intend to move it there (as well as my Hungarian dictionary). --Trebor1990 20:39, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, ok. We've had a nasty string of vandalattacks against user pages recently, so I'm especially weary.  My apologies.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  20:55, 22 Jul 2004 (UTC)

172
Hello. I stumbled across your user page after seeing your helpful edits to Russian constitutional crisis of 1993, and then saw your contributions to a number of other Russia-related articles. So, I'm wondering if you've seen the recent rewrite of History of post-Soviet Russia. Perhaps you'll be interested in reviewing the changes. BTW, like the comments about Bush on your user page. 172 00:25, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Haha, how odd, I just left you a message on your talk page about Russian constitutional crisis of 1993. Sorry if it came across too snide.  No snideness meant.  Thanks for the nice comments; I'll check that article out sometime.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  00:28, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Odd coincidence indeed. We must've been going through the article's page history at the same time. Anyway, I see that the pictures are going to come under a lot of scrutiny with the featured status. The article really does need a picture of the Russian White House, though. I'll try to find one that's more clearly public domain. 172 00:38, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Good to hear. By the way, are you Russian, or do you just have a passing interest in Russian culture?  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  00:43, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * No, I'm of Polish Jewish decent, born in the US. It's just a passing interest, combined with what I got through American diplomatic history, which is my specialty. But I don't know Russian, unfortunately. 172 00:52, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Heh, cool cool. I'm trying to learn, but I'm not very good.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  00:54, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * No need to be so hard on yourself. It's one of the most difficult major languages to learn, I've heard. So, it probably takes a lot of time. Good luck. 172 01:04, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Thanks. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  01:10, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

A favor to ask.
Could you unprotect George W. Bush? Consensus has been reached (see Talk:George W. Bush) Thanks. Neutrality 01:02, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Sure. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  01:11, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Your user page
"In the United States, presidential elections are coming up in November. I would like to stress to everyone how important it is that the warmonger and bigot George W. Bush NOT be reelected. George W. Bush is enforcing a conservative Christian agenda on our nation. The federal government is no place for religion. We need a president who is more moderate, and can make decisions that are progressive instead of repressive. So please, get out there and vote, and encourage your friends and family to do the same."

 * Statements like this make me want to vote republican, against my best interests and judgement. Sam [Spade] 01:33, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I don't wuite understand... - blankfaze | (беседа!)  02:17, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I am pro-God, pro-religion, and respectful towards my president. That said I want a new one. The economic misfortunes, the military mistakes, and the domestic policy misdeeds (I wasn't happy about what was done to the freedom of information act, or how environmentalism was handled, for example) have all but convinced me not to vote for Bush. That said, the only thing bringing me back to him is excessive bitterness like the statement you wrote. Stuff like that almost makes me want to vote for Bush as a protest vote against extremism (see Michael Moore). In fact, while I voted for Edwards in the primary, its going to be very difficult to vote for Kerry... Maybe I'll just throw my vote away w nader, or a libertarian candidate, etc... (I'm one of those few remaining undecideds, in case you hadn't noticed). Sam [Spade] 02:35, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Hehe. We're very different, my friend.  I am an atheist.  The idea of a God seems ridiculous to me.  And I cannot respect a man, be he President or not, that has no honour.  I don't really consider my opinion excessively bitter... Better to be too critical than not critical enough.  That said, I'm not wild about Kerry, but I don't think he could be half as bad as Bush if he tried.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  02:38, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Their both in the same frat, so I don't know how fundamentally different it would really be... Sam [Spade] 02:51, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * What liking god has to do with voting I'm not sure, but don't you think it's silly to vote out of spite? I mean, what is going to do to vote for someone you don't want in just to stick it to someone on Wikipedia? Exploding Boy 02:40, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

Your missing the point, which is that vitriol makes me feel defensive of my commander-in-chief, and in no way sways me to the opposition. People like Edwards, who take the high ground get my vote. Sam [Spade] 02:49, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * No offense, but that strikes me as a rather childish, knee-jerk reaction, in other words, exactly what is not needed. "My commander in chief".  Chortle.  Exploding Boy 02:54, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * Chortle x 2! Keep it real!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  02:58, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Chortle all you like, it's guys like me and Joe Sixpack who'll be deciding this election, not partisans. Sam [Spade] 03:00, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Yeah, that sucks. Thanks to fellows like you we'll have King George back as our President monarch this November.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  03:04, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, if the democrats could just learn to appeal to Blue Collar values, and focus on personal ethics and job creation (like Edwards) instead of gay rights, atheist values, and taking away our guns, they'd prob sway a few republicans over to the dark side. Its all about appealing to actual voters (i.e. people who vote), rather than fringe groups (who usually don't vote). Sam [Spade] 03:16, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Watch it. You're insulting Sam's commander in chief, and you KNOW what happens when you insult Sam's commander in chief! Urgh... Grrghhh....  RAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!!!!! Exploding Boy 03:07, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * And what's wrong with focussing on gay rights, pray tell? I suppose you think it's a good thing that the current US government is focussing on trying to take away people's rights, all while the country is supposedly under imminent threat.  Yeah, preventing same-sex couples from marrying should be really high on the agenda during wartime.  Exploding Boy 03:20, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * Ooh! got' em!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  03:22, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Hehe, you guys are so silly... it makes me smile :). Gay rights is like affirmative action. We (redneck-americans) don't mind being fair, but we don't like diversity force fed to us. Lets see an end to gay bathhousees and naked gay pride parades for a few years, and then bring up the gay marraige thing again. BTW, my thought is that marraige aught to be a religious thing, not a legal thing anyways, and the govt. should step out completely (i.e. stop being involved in marraige at all). In conclusion, having a war doen't put morality on the backburner, at least not for blue collar americans ;)Sam [Spade] 04:29, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Why? There's nothing illegal about gay bathhouses or pride parades (and what is a naked pride parade? Sounds interesting whatever it is) and what do they have to do with same-sex marriage anyway? There are many, many good reasons why marriage is not a "religious thing," none of which I'm going to go into here, and you can stop shoving your morals and your god down my throat. Thank you. Exploding Boy 08:05, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm in the same boat with Sam. I'm from Boston, and pretty much in the middle when it comes to politics (being left or right makes you wrong, sorry).  I went to Emerson College, a superliberal school, and everyone's blind following of the lying, minsinforming Michael Moore wanted me to vote for Bush just because the left was pissing me off so much.  The left is just as close-minded and arrogant as the right (you find God ridiculous and that not accepting gay rights is automatically wrong).  Personally, I say let anyone marry who wants to, it's not that huge of a deal.  Gays can marry here and we haven't become some new Sodom.  My point is: until the left realizes they're just as bad as the right, we'll never make any progress.  Had Bush not been elected in 2000 (he was elected, you don't have to win the popular vote to win), Gore would've invaded Iraq.  EVERYONE, both Democrat and Republican, was under the impression Saddam posed a serious threat and had WMDs (Kerry flip-flopped and changed his tune once he decided to run for president).  Everyone who voted for Bush wasn't a rich, gun-toting, war-loving, religious fundamentalist.  I can also sympathize with Sam, I don't like Bush very much, but attacking the president does get me riled up, especially when those attackers pick and choose which facts and information they use. GreatGatsby 04:42, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

User page template
Just wanted to let you know I've stolen the template for your user page. Thanks! Check it out if you like at: Exploding Boy 01:44, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * Cool, will do!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  02:17, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I've been looking for a better way to organize it for a while. Exploding Boy 02:37, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

By the way, since you seem to be in the know, can I remove the underline from links that appear on my user page? And is there a reliable way to add an extra space between items in my articles list? I used to do HTML but it's been a loooong time and I've forgotten most of it. Exploding Boy 15:58, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)

 * You mean just remove link underlines from your user page or the whole site? Ah, for spacing, you can just add & nbsp; as many times as you want.  Except there's not really a space between the & and the n... I had to add it so it wouldn't turn into a space.  nbsp's just register as one extra space.  add one, or two, or whatever!  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  16:53, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

No, just from my page. Oh yeah, nbsp... right... Forgot about that one. I know there's some way to remove underlines from links too, but I can't remember it. Exploding Boy 16:58, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
 * Hmm, I can do it on your user page, but they'll be underline-less all the time, i mean, you won't even see them on hovers... is that what you want? blankfaze |  (беседа!)  17:01, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Isn't there some code like or something? Anyway, more about this tomorrow. It's 2am here and I've got to sleeeeeeeeep.... Exploding Boy 17:09, Jul 24, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, in the very first div on your user page, the one that only contains background-color code, add "text-decoration: none !important;" ... I just wasn't sure if that was you wanted. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  17:12, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Yargh. Can't get it to work.  Exploding Boy 03:38, Jul 25, 2004 (UTC)

 * Ah. The stuff they have set at MediaWiki:Monobook.css is probably overriding it. The only way to override that stuff is by using a personal CSS file, and all...  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  05:15, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ah well, thanks anyway. Exploding Boy 01:17, Jul 26, 2004 (UTC)

George W. Bush
Why did you revert the article to the other guy's version before protecting? "Admins are not supposed to be editors." V V 05:34, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Don't be going off on Blankfaze for enforcing consensus.--Neutrality 05:35, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm aware of the rules against favouring versions, but as I understand it, the version Neutrality is pushing is the version that a consensus on the talk page decided on. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  05:39, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I disagree with that analysis, obviously. For instance, see my comments about how (a) Neutrality altered the text after votes had been cast and (b) the poll was not fine enough that every word should be set into stone.  In any event, if you are going to protect the page, this should not be your call to make. V V  05:44, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, look, you two can resolve the specifics through RfCs or talk pages. I don't particularly care who is right or wrong.  Both of you should slap yourselves on the wrists.  I counted 17 reverts during that war!  That is unacceptable.  One or both of you should have asked for the page to be protected after 3 or 4!  Anyway, I don't care who wins, but while it's sorted out, I think the one that is favoured by a majority needs to be the one visible to the public.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  05:48, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Fine. I don't want to belabor the point (though as I clearly said the "majority" did not vote on the texts in question), but this is a borderline policy violation.  I'm not proud of edit wars, but I will resort to them when faced with someone who undoes all my work again and again. V V  06:25, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Impersonator
Raul654 caught someone impersonating you with the username User:BIankfaze. It's all been cleaned up, but if they try it once, there's a good chance they'll try it again. -- Cyrius|✎ 02:41, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * That is, User:BIankfaze utilizing a capital "I" in place of the lower-case "l." The letters are indistinguishable on many if not most browsers.  I was confused.  Sorry for driving home a point that may already be obvious.  UninvitedCompany
 * Mmmhm. I just don't understand why someone would want to impersonate me?!  - blankfaze |  (беседа!)  04:16, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Any one with an "L" or "I" in their name is vunerable. Someone could impersonate me as "NeutraIty." Neutrality 05:11, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Ted Bundy Photos
You requested some? How about his autopsy and court photos? TimothyPilgrim 02:56, Jul 28, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yeah, those are nice, but they have no copyright information attached, so I don't know if they're useable. blankfaze | (беседа!)  17:25, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

A couple of questions
Blankfaze, I'm puzzled: what are your criteria for supporting an admin candidate? You've voted against a couple of editors recently, which is well within your right, but it made me curious (most recently you felt 1,200 edits wasn't enough, which is a ways above the level most editors usually require) -- do you mind telling me?

Also, on an unrelated note, I think I should mention that, as a Christian who opposes much of the agenda of President Bush and hopes to see him ousted, the comment on your user page makes me feel more like you're attacking me and others who share my faith than like you're attacking Bush's specific misuse of faith to promote a specific political approach. You can leave it, of course, but I thought you might want to know an editor's reaction, especially the reaction of someone who otherwise has no "beef" with you (to quote a line from your recent admin nomination) and simply wants you to know the effect your words are having. If you choose not to change them at all, I won't be offended, but I think softening a little of your attack on Christianity (or else explaining your comments about it a little more) would help me feel a little more at ease conversing with you, and may prevent someone in the future from making assumptions about you (or expecting you're making assumptions about them, which amounts to the same thing, I suppose). Thanks for considering it, anyway. :-) Jwrosenzweig 20:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * No problem. I'm usually willing to disclose most anything.  And you'll find that, most of the time, I'm pretty easy to talk to and open to most any criticism/suggestion.

 * I. My usual criteria for supporting an admin nominee (although there are always exceptions) is 3 months, 2000+ edits. I suppose I'm a little on the conservative side in that, but I think it's better safe than sorry.  I don't want to see any more crappy/insane/irresponsible admins than we already have.

 * II. I'm really sorry if you felt attacked, I really am. That's not the point of my little message at all.  I don't have any problem with Christianity, or any religion, for that matter, at all.  In fact, I think it's a really good thing for a great number of people...  I do however, think it has absolutely no business playing such a role in our nation's government.  George W. Bush and his administration are (IMO) trying to turn Conservative Christian values into laws.  And I just think that's totally inappropriate and irresponsible.  My beef is not with Christians or their religion, it is with the fact that Christianity and it's values are featured so prominently in the agenda of our nation's leader.  Some Americans have religions, some do not.  And then the ones that do don't all practice this same one.  So, basically, it just pisses me off that our country is run like a Judeo-Christian nation, because we are not one.  Anyway... it's been awhile since I even looked at my little statement... it's probably due for some tweaking.  Again, sorry if it struck you the wrong way.  - blankfaze |  (беседа!)  21:58, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Update: I've reworded it all quite a bit.  See what you think.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  22:26, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your thoughtful response -- I appreciate it. :-) No worries about your standards -- I understand the desire to have high ones, though personally I haven't found edit count a very useful criterion.  I certainly agree I don't want any crappy/insane/irresponsible admins....I hope we don't have too many of those (and certainly hope my name's not on the list!).  I haven't encountered any I felt were insane or really fully crappy, but irresponsible....yeah, I know what you're talking about.  And your statement on your user page certainly makes me feel at ease, but I hope I haven't forced you to censor yourself too badly?  After all, you're free to have any opinion you like around here, and I don't want you to feel you have to hide your ideas.  But I'll just assume, unless you say otherwise, that your new statement is a better reflection of your feelings right now.  And we'll both hope that in mid-November you can replace it with a picture of Kerry's arms raised in triumph. :-)  Peace, Jwrosenzweig 22:41, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, edit counts aren't always the best criterion, agreed, but they work most of the time. Like I said, there are always exceptions.  No, I didn't "censor" myself at all.  I agree, the previous statement could have (and apparently did) give off the wrong impression.  And anyways, Wikipedia isn't the place for a long, ultracritical political statement anyway.  But I try to get the word out when and where I can.  I tried to trim it down and be as basic about it as possible, and I actually really like what I came up with.  I think it actually fits my opinions a bit better, you know?  Focuses more on the positive than the negative...  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  22:56, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I like the idea about positivity, and would agree that I like your new statement. :-) Also (not to harp -- I hope this isn't too intrusive of me), I wanted to note that Kim has just added that he edited anonymously before -- the developers are behind on changing attribution for edits.  His total including his activity as an anon is roughly 1600 edits dating back to December -- obviously it doesn't meet your firm criteria, but since you voted for DDG just now (who has about 1700, I think) I figured you might want to at least be informed.  Whether or not it affects your decision is of course your business. :-)  Thanks for this little conversation -- I feel much more at ease with you now, and hope to work with you in the future.  Keep on editing, Jwrosenzweig 23:30, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, like I said there are exceptions. I actually am familiar with and like DDG.  I've never really come into contact with this Kim fellow.  I may take another look at it sometime if I get the chance.  Haha, yeah, nice conversation.  I respect you as an editor/admin.  I really should do some more editing/writing... Since I became an admin seems like all I ever do is maintenance and vandalfighting.  I should go WRITE.  blankfaze |  (беседа!)  23:52, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * P.S., I'm endorsing you for the Arbitration Committee. blankfaze |  (беседа!)  00:15, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Aw, thanks. :-) I appreciate it very much.  Good luck getting time away from adminning to write! Jwrosenzweig 16:10, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

1980 Mount St. Helens eruption a FAC
You mentioned before that this article was feature worthy, so I added a bit to it and nominated it at Featured article candidates. Please take a look when you have time and comment. :) --mav 02:29, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Bharatiya Manavata Vikas Party

Bharatiya Manavata Vikas Party (Indian Human Development Party), political party in India. The party was formed in 2001 by the founder of the Indian Institute of Planning and Management (IIPM) Malayendra Kisor Chaudhury. The party claims to work for development in poor rural areas, and is a continuation of other organizations (Manav Seva Kendras) that were initiated by Chaudhury. Chaudhury launched his new political party ahead of the Lok Sabha and state assembly elections in Orissa 2004. BMVP were given media coverage for their unorthodox methods for recruiting candidates through open interview sessions.

Chaudhury's BMVP didn't reach any major success in the elections. Chaudhury got 13 873 votes (1,46%) in Balasore and the other BMVP candidate Bijay Kumar Mallick got 10 303 (1,18%) in Jajpur. In the Orissa state assembly elections BMVP had launched ten candidates.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Naggleworld

Naggleworld was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE

 * Delete. Blatant ad with no helpful content.  — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:49, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Delete. Exploding Boy 14:55, Jul 20, 2004 (UTC)
 * print out, burn, bury ashes. Then delete. Ianb 15:39, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Per above, and then salt the earth where it grew. Delete. Geogre 16:36, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Per above, and fumigate. - Lucky 6.9 17:17, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * I've speed deleted it as patent nonsense. Ftr it went like this: Naggleworld: This is the wonderful world of many fast-food deformaties,such as Mr.Taytoopelicious,Mr.Nuggellations and The Big "D" and other such beings.... -- Wile E. Heresiarch 03:12, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)


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Bharatiya Minorities Suraksha Mahasangh

Bharatiya Minorities Suraksha Mahasangh (Indian Minorities Protection League) is a social and political organization in India, registered as a political party. The party was led by the Indian mafia gang leader Haji Mastan until his death in 1994. From 1994 to today, the BMSM chairman has been Sundar Shaekhar.

In the Lok Sabha elections in 2004, BMSM ran three candidates in Maharashtra, who together mustered 8200 votes. The party ran one candidate in Madhya Pradesh, Bano Bee. She got 2151 votes.

As of 2019, Munira Khan was the General Secretary and ran in the Maharashtra state elections the same year.

title: Bharatiya Minorities Suraksha Mahasangh