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Anthony Nutting

Sir Harold Anthony Nutting, 3rd Baronet (11 January 1920 – 23 February 1999) was a British diplomat and Conservative Party politician who served as a Member of Parliament from 1945 until 1956. He was a Minister of State for Foreign Affairs from 1954 until he resigned in 1956 in protest against the Suez invasion.

Early and private life
Nutting was the son of Sir Harold Stanmore Nutting, 2nd Baronet, member of a wealthy family who owned estates in England, Scotland, and Ireland. He was born in Shropshire at the private Shrewsbury Nursing Institution at Quarry House, Shrewsbury, and was educated at Eton College and Trinity College, Cambridge where he studied agriculture.

Before the outbreak of World War II, he joined the Leicestershire Yeomanry as a trooper but was invalided out early in 1940 because of asthma after a steeplechase accident.

Next he entered the Foreign Service. He served as an attaché at the British Embassy in Paris. When France fell, he was assigned to the embassy in Madrid, where he organised escape routes for Allied servicemen caught behind enemy lines from 1940 to 1944. He joined the Embassy in Rome from 1944 to 1945 and was briefly private secretary to Anthony Eden, the then Foreign Secretary. Meanwhile, both of his elder brothers were killed on active duty and consequently he succeeded to the family baronetcy after the death of their father in 1972.

He married his first wife, Gillian Leonora Strutt, with whom he had three children, John, David and Zara, but they divorced in 1959. He married his second wife, Anne Gunning Parker, in 1961. After her death, in 1991, he later married his third wife, Margarita.

Early political career
At the 1945 general election, at 25, Nutting was elected as the MP for Melton in Leicestershire, an area involved in hunting and it was said of it that "most of the voters are foxes". He served as chairman of the Young Conservatives (1946–47) and he was the youngest member of Winston Churchill's Government in the 1950s.

He was made a Privy Counsellor in 1954 and he led the British delegation to the United Nations General Assembly and Disarmament Commission in 1954 and 1955. He was an internationalist, an early enthusiast for British membership of the European Economic Community and an Arabist who was a founding member of the Council for the Advancement of Arab-British Understanding (CAABU) in 1967. In the worlds of the political writer Peter Kellner, "He belonged to, and was set fair to lead, a new generation of post-war Tories: moderate, inclusive and internationalist. He preferred the spirit of the United Nations Charter to the ethos of empire. He understood earlier than most of his contemporaries that Britain needed to find a new role in the world".

Suez Crisis
In 1954, he negotiated the final steps of the treaty with President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt under which British troops withdrew from Suez; so when he discovered the joint British and French invasion plan at a meeting on 14 October 1956, he believed that the mission was mistaken and deceitful. On 31 October, despite attempts by future Prime Minister Harold Macmillan to persuade him not to resign ("you will lead the party one day"), Nutting quit his post as Minister of State for Foreign Affairs. He did not give the customary resignation speech in the House of Commons for security reasons, and his unexplained action proved so unpopular that his constituents forced him to give up his seat in Parliament. He later wrote of feeling suddenly "bereft of friends... a castaway adrift on a sea of anger and recrimination, an object of distrust... torn between loyalty to principle and loyalty to friends and associates."

Nutting supported the idea of moving Iraqi troops into Jordan in response to aggressive Israeli military raids in the West Bank that were carried out in response to attacks, by the Palestinian fedayeen, on Israel. Such a deployment could have provoked war with Israel, as Britain had a defence treaty with Jordan at the time, and Jordan could appeal for British military assistance if there was any Israeli action to stop it. However, when Nutting telephoned Prime Minister Anthony Eden to press the case, Eden angrily told Nutting, "I will not allow you to plunge this country into war merely to satisfy the anti-Jewish spleen of you people in the Foreign Office".

Later life
He kept his silence over the Suez Crisis until 1967. Then, his book, No End of a Lesson, explained that backing the Suez action would have put him in the position of lying to the House of Commons and the United Nations.

"Either I had to tell the whole story as I saw it, or say nothing at all," he wrote. "And as long as any of the chief protagonists of the Suez war still held high office in Britain it would clearly have been a grave disservice to the nation, which they still led and represented in the councils of the world, to have told the whole story." The crisis had caused so much bitterness that even eleven years after his resignation, he came under pressure from the Cabinet Secretary not to proceed and there was even a threat of prosecution under the Official Secrets Act.

He stood one more time, unsuccessfully, in Oldham East in 1964. In his later years, still a political outcast, he divided his time between writing biographies and histories in London, fox hunting in Shropshire and farming at Achentoul, Scotland.

In 1969, Nutting was banned from entering Israel because of a speech to students in Beirut in which he reportedly said that the Palestine question had to be resolved by force, and it was up to Palestinian guerillas to impose a solution.

Nutting was a long-standing member of the board of Christopher Mayhew’s Middle East International, the London based bimonthly journal on Middle East events.

He died at the Royal Brompton Hospital, London of heart failure on 23 February 1999, aged 79, and was cremated on 4 March at the West London Crematorium.

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Han twins murder plot

The Han twins murder plot was a case of attempted murder of Sunny Han by her identical twin sister Jeena "Jeen" Han, occurring on November 6, 1996 in Irvine, California. Both are Korean-born American citizens.

Jeena Han recruited two teenage youths to capture her sister at home, but the plot went awry and the two were quickly taken into custody by local police. The jury reached their verdict as to each defendant on November 20, 1997, after ten hours' deliberation. Jeena Han was convicted of all charges including one count of conspiracy to commit murder, two counts of burglary (one in the first and another in the second degree), two counts of false imprisonment, and one count of a convicted felon in possession of a firearm. The jury also found that Jeena Han was armed with a firearm during the commission of each offense.

Jeena Han was imprisoned at the Central California Women's Facility in Chowchilla, California, in 1998 with a sentence of 26 years to life in prison. She was given an additional year because the jury found the firearm enhancement to be true. Twenty years later, in May 2018, she was granted parole by California's Board of Parole. Jeen received support from Sunny for parole.

Before The Trial
It was said that the two young girls were very competitive with each other.

Aftermath
In 1999, the case was featured in the book Evil Twins by John Glatt.

In November 1999, an American Justice documentary titled "Sister Against Sister: The Twin Murder Plot" aired on A&E, covering the sensational details of the case. The program was hosted by Bill Kurtis.

In 2001, the case was profiled on The Investigators under the title "Evil Twin".

In 2005, Snapped, a series about true crime on the Oxygen Network, ran an episode about Jeen's plot to kill her twin sister and take over her life.

In 2012, this story became the focus of the pilot episode of the Investigation Discovery show, "Evil Twins".

In 2024, the case was featured in Stephanie Soo's podcast Rotten Mango on Spotify, on June 2nd, 2024.

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Talk:Twilight (1998 film)

Reese's "famous" topless scene
Sorry, but it's no more "famous" than the topless scenes dozens of other actresses have done in the past century. I could cite chapter and verse, as I could probably name 20 or 30 off the top of my head, but I wouldn't say that any of the scenes qualifies as famous.

And the link to Reese nude is no more appropriate here than in an article about her.

==

I removed the plot summary because it was erroneous. Newman's character is not investigating the possibility of Sarandon's character having an affair, and there is no hint that Hackman's character is an "old friend" - it is not said in so many words, but it is certainly suggested that Hackman's and Newman's characters became acquainted two years before the main action of the film when Newman was hired to track down Hackman's daughter. The two are certainly friends, but not "old friends". Moleskiner 03:55, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

 * Well I don't know if Moliskiner is still around, and I know this is almost 3 years after the fact; but, while I agree that a brief nude scene isn't worthy of much mention, and the March 06 summary was not accurate, the movie does establish the fact that Newman's and Hackman's characters are indeed friends. While the conclusion of the story may strain the friendship, a man doesn't live at another man's house without there being a friendship.  I'll revisit this article within the next few days and try to add a little more to it (accurately) and we'll see how we do from there. Ched (talk) 21:58, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Let me know if you need help with sourcing. I doubt that this film is reputable enough to find too many reliable sources online.  I have access to some subscription-only databases, so I can dig into them to find any useful nuggets. — Erik  (talk • contrib) 23:57, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Was just headed over to your talk page Erik, but since we're keeping all threads at original post ... Just wanted to say thanks on the offer. I will definitely take you up on that.  I might even be interested in joining one or two of those sources.  Not sure how much can be done with this little gem here, but I just saw it for the first time, and while it's not anyone's "BEST" work, I thought it was good in it's own right.  Thanks again, and I'll be in touch soon to try to improve "Twilight" .. Ched (talk) 14:32, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Sounds good. :) Just drop a message on my talk page! — Erik  (talk • contrib) 07:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

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major edit: added sections, info, references
I've done a major rewrite here. Feel free to comment. Ched (talk) 06:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Many thanks to Fuhghettaboutit for his help cleaning up after a beginner! It is greatly appreciated. Ched (talk) 05:04, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Start-Class
I agree with Ched's Start-Class assessment of the film article. I think that before the article can achieve B-Class, we should find more information than just reviews. — Erik (talk • contrib) 16:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the guidelines in the banner by clicking on the "show" button and then follow the link for "See how this article can be improved to B-Class status." Following these instructions will help to improve the article to B-class. Currently the article needs some more expansion and a good copyedit (the reception section has some words that don't need to be capitalized, newspapers that aren't italicized, etc.) Once you believe that the article meets the criteria based on the instructions in the banner, re-nominate it again for reassessment. Let me know on my talk page if you have any questions. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 23:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Themes
Check out the chapter in this book for a very detailed thematic analysis of the film! — Erik (talk • contrib) 17:51, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Screenplay
online sources for screenplay section: (future article improvement)
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recent changes
from a recent edit: I'll continue to remove this unless there is some discussion brought forth with some sort of explanation which could rule this out as vandalism. I'm open to any views on this - feel free to discuss. I don't deny that the film did not meet expectations, and I think that's covered by well sourced secondary sources here - but as the man says, if you don't agree - "Fill your boots" — Ched ~ (yes?) 18:33, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
 * the film got mixed reviews but it was a financial disaster at the box office
 * 1) - this doesn't belong in the lead (lede)
 * 2) - there is no reference supplied
 * 3) - the statistical information is covered and referenced in the Reception section, along with further "reviews" provided as links.
 * 4) - the statement is provided as a first person (WP:OR) statement.

budget
The mentioned budget is NOT a fact. And you can find sources with quite different figures. Boxofficemojo says $37,000,000 - IMDB says $20,000,000. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.133.254.127 (talk) 22:25, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

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Talk:Tengu

Misc
Regarding the recent vandalism, perhaps the article should be protected for a short time. -- Oni Ookami Alfador Talk 05:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)

Nomenclature
from the article:

Tengu can change their appearance to that of an animal (often a tanuki or a fox)

Why should we say tanuki?

The reference to raccoon dog was changed to tanuki because like other things unique to a country, the common practice is to use words from that country's language. Just as english has adopted terms such as Sumo wrestling and Shinto shrine rather than fat man wrestling or nature church, this change uses the Japanese term for an animal unique to Japan.

The only reason one could argue against using the term tanuki is that unfamiliarity may leave people wondering what you are referring to. But in this case we are blessed with effortless cross referencing, and with a single click an uncertain reader can find out exactly what is being discussed, which is even better than the dubious image one might form from trying to imagine a raccoon dog.

Some people claim that the english articles in wikipedia should favour english names when more than one is in use, but in this case it should be noted that the raccoon dog gets redirected to the page with the title tanuki, so in this sense the issue has already been decided and consistancy also dictates that the link in this article remain as tanuki.

 * First off, Raccoon dogs are *not* unique to Japan. Read the article on raccon dogs. Secondly, Raccoon dog is the English equivalent for the Japanese tanuki, but fat man wrestling and nature church are *not* the English equivalent for the Japanese sumo and shinto. Sumo and shinto is used because there is no term in English with equal meaning. Sumo wrestling is an expression which clarifies sumo, and shinto shrine is an expression for what is called jinja in Japanese.

 * However, I do understand the argument that there already is a seperate article for tanuki, being on the role of the raccoon dog in Japanese culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.190.19.66 (talk • contribs)

Tengu in media
First off, thanks for the recent addition to the article. However, I cut the following bit:

"Since the use of tengu in these games, the popularity of the creature has increased dramatically and they can be seen with increased frequency in many fictional works, espcially those in the form of fanfics of popular Japanese anime."

The reason is that no source was cited, and this reads like original research. If a source is provided, I have no problem with its inclusion. (Incidentally, I need to provide sources for some of the rest of the material -- I wrote the first big expansion of the article back before I understood to cite sources . . . . --Amcaja 12:56, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I'm taking a look at some of the sites where I noticed these references so that I can make a statistical comparison based on post dates.--Oni Ookami Alfador 01:43, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

More cuts
I have removed this bit twice:
 * In the anime and manga, Tactics, an 'oni-eating' tengu is unsealed from the rock by a folklore scholar named Kantaro. The translationed manga (released by ADV Films) changes 'tengu' to ogre. The tengu's name is Haruka, a pun on the phrase 'really strong'-Haruka no tsuyoi. The anime has yet to be relased offically in America (however it is available through fan subs and IRC.)

This seems like too much information on a fairly insignificant piece of Japanese popular culture. It is highly doubtful that someone visiting the Tengu article really cares to read a complete list of every appearance of tengu in popular culture anywhere, let alone a detailed plot outline of such works. If such a discussion is desired, it belongs at Tactics (anime), not here. — Amcaja 16:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Tengu sound like "Grays" aliens/UFO Abduction
Flying around in saucer type contraptions, kidnapping with the victim has no memory of the missing time, communicating with telepathy. Has anybody heard of this? DyslexicEditor 05:00, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I thought the same thing. If you're a UFO nut, it's evidence of aliens' existence. If you're a scholar, it's evidence of some innate human super-myth that appears in multiple cultures. For us, it's original research, unfortunately. — Amcaja 12:56, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm.. I did a google search for the word Tengu and alien and it found I wasn't the first to have the idea.  DyslexicEditor 14:35, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Removed bit

 * In Capcom's Onimusha 3: Demon Siege, a tiny tengu named Ako took on the role as the messenger, time-warper and guardian between Oni-Samurai Warrior Samanosuke Akechi that originate from Medieval Warring State Japan, and Special Task Force Jacque Blanc, who was from the Modern Day France, whom found themselves in the opposite timeline respectively, during the Genma's Invasion.

I removed this. I don't have a problem with mentioning Onimusha 3, but the person who added this should probably determine if this reference is more pertinent than one of the others that's listed and replace the less appropriate one. Further, there is no need to go into this level of detail here. Describe this on the Onimusha 3 page, but this page is about tengu in general, and should be kept general. — Amcaja 12:58, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I agree that its a bit too much. If you ask me the section should be simply a list of the appearances of tengu in various media and pop-culture. The only time any additional information may be needed, is if the reference requires some kind of clarification. I really dont get though why people see what is obviously a concise list and decide to add a paragraph about one obscure item to that list.-- Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk 05:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming you meant "decide to add a paragraph"? :) — Amcaja 19:33, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Haha, my apologies, I've had a long day and whatnot. I fixed my typose now, but yeah you're right.-- Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk 05:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I just thought it might be a Freudian slip. :) — Amcaja 13:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Unsourced bit

 * A Tengu may strap a monk to the top of a tree or offer them savory foods that transform into excrement when eaten.

The current article is very careful to cite sources. In the interest of maintaining that level of integrity, I removed the above sentence from User:Maria Caliban pending citation. She has been notified on her talk page. — Amcaja 13:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Konohatengu
I'm going to change this, as everything in Japanese that I've read says that the konohatengu is a low-ranking, bird-like tengu similar to the karasutengu. It seems that equating this name with the daitengu is an widely-copied error by an English-speaking writer. Some references, with my translations:

Konohatengu statue based on the work of yokai expert Shigeru Mizuki.

An illustration - A carved image ("koppa" is another pronunciation of the kanji for "konoha")

Entry in the Youkai Denshou Database. "At the Ooi River, when night falls, something like a great bird with eagle-like wings stretching about 6 shaku comes flying in great numbers. This seems to be a kind of konohatengu."

The Japanese Wikipedia Entry says: その姿は大天狗や烏天狗と同じく山伏装束で、烏天狗によく似ていると言われている. "As for its form, like the daitengu and the karasutengu it wears the costume of a yamabushi, and it is said to resemble a karasutengu very much."

Kotengu 00:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * No problems here. Please be sure to add at least one of those sources to the References section (even if it's in Japanese). — Amcaja 03:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Ravens and Crows
Re: [this edit:]

Karasu in Japanese refers to both ravens and crows (and rooks and jackdaws and anything else in genus Corvus) - the best known Corvus in Japan, however, is probably the big, chunky, ravenish Corvus macrorhynchos, commonly called the Large-billed Crow, so "crow" may be the best translation after all. Also I don't know where anyone would get the "raven" translation other than Whitewolf (sigh).

...anyway now that I look at the current article it looks like the reference to a specific bird type is no longer there - just for future reference, though, the bird tengu were historically associated with was not a corvid so often as the Black-eared kite and other similar raptors. I've seen this in various places but here is one reference:

Mizuki, Shigeru. Mujara 3: Kinki-hen. Soft Garage, 2003. p. 95. ISBN 4861330068

And here's a [google book search] for English references because I'm lazy. Kotengu 18:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Checking the history, it looks like you removed the crow link on 8 May. If you get a chance, add some of the information you've mentioned here into the article. If the bird to which tengu are linked has changed over time (from kites to crows or whatever), that's worth mentioning. — Amcaja 19:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Oh, did I? I forget these things too quickly. Anyway I have a feeling the bird-association has evolved (probably by the term karasutengu becoming popularized), I just wish I could find a good solid reference on that. Let me check around... Kotengu 05:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Good Article Nomination failed
This article is close to GA quality, but not there yet. The lead needs to be expanded to summarize the whole article and adjusted in other ways to meet WP:LEAD. The wording needs to be adjusted a bit to help readers unfamiliar with Japanese culture. In addition, I'd like to see the references improved with more print sources and the publication details (place, publisher, date) provided for existing references. --CTS Wyneken (talk) 13:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I've wanted to use print sources for some time to expand the article and/or replace the web sources. It's been tough locating anything in English, though. Thanks for the ideas to improve the article. -- Amcaja 14:51, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
 * We're in luck: Google books recently added this article (which I thought I'd never find) to its full-view section - it's pretty much the English language source on tengu which everyone else references. A few pages are out of order though; I'll try to get the fixed PDF I made online somewhere soon. Kotengu 07:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * How do you download the thing? — Amcaja 07:29, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well now that I've got it uploaded you can download it here. The google site still has the advantage of being searchable though. Either way I'd kind of like to volunteer to rewrite the article myself, as it's kind of my pet subject and I have access to some Japanese sources as well. Kotengu 20:49, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Dōzo. I'll help out if and where I can. — Amcaja 22:35, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Well it took a couple weeks of cobbling together in my sandbox, but it's finally done. Kotengu 小天狗 09:06, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Source?

 * Although malicious tengu may lead people astray or kidnap them, benevolent tengu are sometimes said to help travellers who have lost their way in the mountains.

I removed this pending a source citation. It's probably true, but it'd be nice to have the source. — Amcaja 08:39, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

 * I'm afraid the best I can do is "I read it in some guide book". I was hoping that someone else would be able to expand upon the idea of the helpful tengu.  The article says that the tengu can be malicious or benevolent, but all the behaviors described seem to be malicious.  CKarnstein 01:51, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Well, it does mention tengu teaching sworsmanship. — Amcaja 09:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
 * True, I'd missed that, although I'm not sure if it really counts as benevolent. (Depends on who they're teaching!)  I think the article as it stands gives the impression that tengu are generally malicious, or at least mischevious, even though it also states that they are "alternately describe[d] them as benevolent or malicious" and have "ambiguous morality in Japanese tales".  I hope someone will be able to give more examples of helpful tengu to balance things out. CKarnstein 02:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

 * Here's a couple of folktales in which tengu aren't such bad guys:
 * Old Man's Wen
 * Tengus and the Hana-matsuri
 * Kotengu 00:42, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Tengu in modern culture
A tengu is featured in the anime Megaman.EXE (Rockman.EXE in Japan). A Net Navi named Tenguman operated by Master Teng-Fian (Fuuten Roushi) appears not only in the cartoon, but in the video games aswell IMG]http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d21/Kouhaisparrow/beast17-screen363.jpg[/IMG

(From a school computer:) Another place I've seen them-- IIRC, two of the shikigami/summons from Yami no Matsuei (Decendants of Darkness) are based on tengu (though considerably better-looking). I don't have the manga on hand to check their names/if they're explicitly stated to be tengu, though, and the anime cuts off before the arc they appear in. Still, it't a fairly safe bet, seeing as most of the other shikigami are based off of mythilogical creatures and gods.
 * (though considerably better-looking)
 * BOLLOCKS. Real Tengu are much prettier than manganime bishōnen. Seriously though, do we need to make a separate article for pop-culture here like was made for Kitsune? This is getting out of hand. Kotengu 00:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree. What would be nice is if WP:JAPAN made a guideline/ruling that pop culture sections are to be avoided unless thoroughly sourced from secondary sources, the way WP:MILHIST has done. Maybe that'll happen, but it would be a tough sell. -- Amcaja 01:26, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's worked reasonably well for Kitsune, and I've repeated it at a couple of other pages (Kappa, Oni, Tanuki). Ideally we'd have these sourced.  Realistically, though, they tend to keep creeping back in.  Splitting that material from the folklore material might not be ideal, but it keeps it off the main page, still leaves it accessible for those interested, and requires a minimum of upkeep compared to just deleting it.  One of those compromises I live with in order to spend less time on maintenance and more on actual contribution of some sort. Shimeru 22:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Another image
Kudos to Kotengu for the rewrite! I haven't had a chance to review everything in detail, but it looks really nice on the first pass. I just got back from a trip down to Kyushu, and I got a good photo that I thought might have a home somewhere in the article. It's of a shrine in Beppu: Image:Tengu shrine in Beppu.JPG. Have a look and place it somewhere if you think it'll add something. I thought a photograph might be good since all the images in the article at the moment are paintings and the like. — Amcaja 06:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome. That could work, actually - I was looking for an image of tengu worship for the "protective spirits" section, but nobody had donated any izuna-gongen photos to wikipedia, alas. Do you have any information on this particular shrine? Kotengu 小天狗 08:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Not really. It was a small shrine in the middle of downtown Beppu. I stopped into a local shop to ask about it, and they said it was portable. The town had tengu flags all over the place, so there may be some sort of tengu festival planned in the near future. — Amcaja 09:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, added it. Kotengu 小天狗 22:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Brian, you didn't by any chance take a photo of the plaque next to the tengu, did you? There was probably some pretty usefull info on it. (Oh, and by the way, is Beppu really all that terrible? :) TomorrowTime 20:05, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hindsight and all that (sorry, no). I know a guy who lives in Beppu, so maybe I can convince him to go by and snap the plaque. And to answer your second question, Beppu is heaven on earth, especially if you like onsens! :) — Amcaja 00:11, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * On second look, the plaque is fully visible in the photo. Zoom in quite a bit on the white box down below the tengu head, and you should be able to make out most everything. — Amcaja 00:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Whew, I didn't even realize the whole uploaded photo was that huge. Ok, I think I can make out the gist of it. Here goes:
 * Yayoi tengu: tengu were often described as protectors of freedom and sovereignity in Japan; In 1688 there was a huge fire in Beppu and this has led to the construction of many shrines to protect the villagers from further grief; the townsfolk got used to worshipping in those shrines constructed on the spot of the fire (in a part of town, called Yayoi), and there were many festivals held there; in February of Showa 48 (I'm too lazy too calculate the date, but the plaque says 19 years ago), a tengu mikoshi was built; since then, every April the tengu mikoshi is part of the town's festivities.
 * That's the general stuff I can make out. There's more (talk of the founder of the town and such), but I can't really pinpoint what that all relates to, without the proper context.
 * Oh, and, yeah, give me an onsen any time! That's possibly the one thing I miss most now that I'm not in Japan :) TomorrowTime 10:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool stuff! I've updated the Commons photo's description with your translation. Hopefully I'll be able to read Japanese some day . . . . :) — Amcaja 11:50, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sheesh, if I knew you were gonna use the text I'd had taken the bother to translate Showa into Gregorian. :) Anyway, apparently Showa 48 is 1973. Way more than 19 years ago, might I add :) That's one old plaque. Regarding Japanese, let me tell you a secret. All that talk about it being difficult is overrated, if you ask me. It's just another foreign language - if you set yourself to master it, you can. Just like any other foreign language. TomorrowTime 15:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

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This is really good. I mean really, really good. I definitely take my hat off to Kotengu for whipping this article into shape like this. I just did a copyedit, mostly removing redundancy, rephrasing to avoid weasel terms and passive voice, and breaking up some long sentences. I hope that if I've distorted or changed the meaning anywhere, Kotengu will fix it back.

I have a few comments about some issues I could not fix with a simple copy edit. Here they are, in no particular order:

 * I question the italicization of the word tengu throughout the text. Granted, it's a foreign term, but it's a foreign term for which there is no English equivalent. It may just be a style issue; I note our article kitsune does not italicize kitsune throughout. On balance, I'd de-italicize tengu here as well.
 * Many of the images are of works of art and include what seem to be titles ("Tengu and Buddhist monk", etc.). Are these the works' titles? If so, they should be italicized; if not, perhaps we can reword the captions to be more action oriented and thus not sound like titles (A tengu confronts a Buddhist monk in a painting by Kwanabe Kyosai.")
 * Many names in the text could use with a word or two of explanation so that the average reader isn't left confused. I've added some of this where I could, but I couldn't find definitions for some of the terms. Here are the remaining terms for which I think we should give a bit of description: yamabushi's costume (what does it look like?), the Kojidan, Go-Shirakawa, the Shokoku Rijan Dan, the Gunpei Seisuiki, the Shasekishu, Kaidan Toshiotoko, and Taira no Kiyomori.
 * There was some weasel language that I wasn't able to squash. "It has often been suggested that the tengu's Japanese image . . . " (Who, for example, has suggested this?) "According to legend, he died in torment . . . " (Even legends can be traced to sources. Can we name one that relates this tale? See also West Dakota Prize) "Hayashi Razan listed the greatest . . . " (In what work did he list them?) "A creature called shibaten . . . is said to live in Koichi Prefecture . . . " (Again, can we trace this to a source?).
 * I don't like the section "In folk tales". Isn't all of this information related to folk tales? And whereas the rest of the article is analytical, this part just consists of plot summaries of tengu tales. Better to mention these tales as examples in the rest of the article (the way kitsune does) and nix this section. Either that or find analytical sources about tengu as comic figures and retool the section to be about that.
 * The "Modern fiction" section is nothing more that a stub. It should probably be reduced to a simple "See also" to Tengu in popular culture.

Again, this is really good. I hope Kotengu puts it up for peer review and eventually Featured Article Candidates. Consider this my early peer review. Thanks for your work on this. — Amcaja 09:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Couple more things: Automated peer reviewer thingy says that the lead is too short, and that there are a few more references where there's a space between the punctuation and the tag (there should be no space). It'd also be a good idea to make sure all of the links are to actual articles and not redirects or disambiguation pages. — Amcaja 09:18, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

 * 1)I'm not sure about the italicization issue at all. Looks like the Manual of Style says nothing about whether they should be dropped in long articles. I'll see what other precedents there are.
 * 2)I think that particular image's title would translate as "Tengu and a Buddhist monk" but I'd have to check the book I scanned it from again. I think I intended it as a description, but finding out the actual titles of the images might not hurt.
 * 3)Noted, I'll try to work on that
 * 4)I'll look up where the bit about Emperor Sutoku came from. For Garuda I'm not sure if de Visser gave a particular source, but I'll look into that too. For the shibaten I believe the source would be "the people of Koichi Prefecture" as it is apparently simply a folkloric creature which doesn't appear in literature.
 * 5)Most of the information in the article comes from old literature (which should be clarified in the lead). The folk tales section is just that, about popular orally-transmitted tales that have been collected by folklorists.
 * Anyway, I'll try to take care of all that in the morning. Very late at night here. Kotengu 小天狗 10:12, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Brought up the italics issue on the Manual of Style talk page. Hopefully somebody will know if there's a proper way to deal with it. Kotengu 小天狗 10:50, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Trying to stub all the redlinks now; will get rid of links on things that don't seem notable enough to find any decent information on them. Kotengu 小天狗 21:39, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Regarding italics: Apparently it's FA procedure to drop them when the word in question is the subject of the article.  I'd italicized every instance of "kitsune" on that page, and during the FAC process they were deitalicized.  The editor in question was User:Raul654, so I tend to trust his interpretation; his summary was "isolated foriegn words should be [italicized]; words that are used throughout the article should not be." Shimeru 06:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Word origins
Hello, I just wanted to add that the word karasu which means crow in Japanese, is believed by some to be a bastardization of the name Garuda. I'm sorry I don't have a source to give you on that one! Garuda is a popular Hindu and Buddhist deity. Tien'kou is the chinese word that shares a similarity with the Japanese word Tengu, but this may only be a coincidence. I have found no evidence that the word Tengu was derived from Tien'kou other than the similarity in spelling. The Tien'kou is a mythical dog that flies through the sky and is regarded as an omen in China, perhaps simply a comet or meteorite. If someone would like to add this please do, though I'm afraid there are no books written about Tengu from a scholarly that I know of so citation is difficult! Most of the information spread on the internet comes from people involved in an organization called the Bujinkan, one of their martial arts schools was said to be founded by a tengu and they have a huge member base. I agree the article should be protected.

Naomi

24.92.74.83 20:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello, I just wanted to add that the word karasu which means crow in Japanese, is believed by some to be a bastardization of the name Garuda. I'm afraid you're going to have to get a reference on that, because I've only seen that speculation on one website, and it sounds very questionable.
 * I have found no evidence that the word Tengu was derived from Tien'kou other than the similarity in spelling. And I've found plenty. They're also written with the same Chinese characters (天狗), in case you missed that. You might want to check out the numerous references given in the article.
 * I'm afraid there are no books written about Tengu from a scholarly that I know of so citation is difficult! There's a scholarly paper on the subject that's available for free on google books. I used it to write a lot of the article. You might want to check it out, it's in the external links on the bottom of the page.
 * Also, please put new topics at the bottom of the talk page next time. Thank you. Kotengu 小天狗 21:11, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh sorry you are right I did not notice. I will try to find the book where I read the part about Garuda's name being bastardized. My library is so huge it's going to take a while to find that bit, as I must have read it about six or eight years ago. I didn't actually mean to reply in the middle of the talk page, sorry! ::embarassed:: I moved it down here. :)

The google book crashes my browser (firefox) so I'll take your word for it. :)

You know, there is a new english translation out in bookstores of an old text that expresses martial arts tactics that is presented as a dialogue of a tengu. I can't seem to find it on amazon.com so I think am going to go buy that today at Davis-Kidd and see what is in it.

Naomichanart 16:31, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok I got the book. I am only a few pages in, skimming, and it is a beatiful little book. You have to get it Kotengu! It is called "The Demon's Sermon On Martial Arts", it was released just last year and is translated by William Scott Wilson, who is known for his translations of Hagakure and The Book of Five Rings. It was originally written by Issai Chozanshi in the 18th century and is a story about an anonymous samurai who travels to Mt. Kurama to speak with a tengu...or what actually appears to be a bunch of tengu. Perhaps this is where Mt. Kurama became connected with the Tengu?

Naomichanart 19:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

 * Is that the Tengu Geijutsu-ron? I've been wanting to get my hands on that but wasn't aware there was an in-print translation, thanks! I don't know about it being the origin of the tengu/Kurama connection though, I'm pretty sure the Ushiwakamaru legend predates the 18th century. Kotengu 小天狗 21:26, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Pass GA
An amazing article. It shows that a lot of work has gone into it. It is excellently structured, easy to read, the references are impeccable, and the images are superb.

Fred-Chess 12:54, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Reference?
just wondering —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.141.27.254 (talk) 08:58, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Possible tengu reference in Western literature?
In Jules Verne's Around the World in Eighty Days (Chapter XXIII), Phileas Fogg's servant Passepartout, having been separated from his master on the journey to Yokohama, takes employment in the acrobatic troupe of the "Honourable William Batulcar", wherein the performers wear "a false nose six feet long" and "vari-coloured wings", in honour of their patron "the god Tingou".

An example of tengu mythos as seen through the cultural filters of a 19th century Frenchman?

86.131.246.167 (talk) 10:35, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Guildwars
I forgot the title of the bit, but Tengu are also in a game called guildwars both the original and guild wars 2 http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Tengu http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Tengu 1.123.17.132 (talk) 06:38, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

In Modern Fiction
The "In Modern Fiction" section of this article is now the longest section and has all of 4 citations. I don't think this meets the standards of a good article. In the interest of preserving the quality rating, I'm going to give the people who added the content to that section a week or two to start improving it. If no additional citations have been added I'm going to remove all the un-cited content from the section. I don't want to start an edit war or be overly harsh, but I simply don't have time to track down references for all those claims, and they just can't stay like they are now. Thanks in advance to anyone who helps track down this info, and for the understanding of the original contributors if I end up removing their content. TI. Gracchus (talk) 16:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi. You seem to have made a small but critical mistake: You have counted the number of footnotes instead of the number of sources. For example, this sentence:
 * "In Red Alert 3 and Red Alert 3 Uprising, there is a unit called Mecha Tengu, an anti-infantry mech the can transform into an interceptor aircraft."
 * It has two sources, though no footnotes. Even if someone was to add a footnote, it would be:
 * "1. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3. Electronic Arts. 2008.

2. Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3: Uprising. Electronic Arts. 2009."

 * But I certainly support deleting this sentence because of its lack of relevance. "Mecha Tengu" is not a Tengu. It is war machine that has the word "Tengu" in its name. It would be analogous to listing women whose given names are "Cherry" in the list of cherry cultivars!

 * Best regards,
 * Codename Lisa (talk) 03:19, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

 * I see what you mean, but using videogames as sources about themselves seems to exist in a bit of a grey area. I suppose that a simple factual statement could potentially be an acceptable use of a primary source - for instance, your Red Alert example - but that still seems sketchy to me.  If they quoted a player's guide or manual, of course, that would be a different story.

 * In any event, I agree with you that the list as it exists probably doesn't meet the criteria for notability, and you make a very good points. I'm still thinking of giving it a bit more time to see if anyone cares to stop by to beef up the sources and citations, or make a case for the notability of that section, but if no one does I feel pretty good about nuking it from orbit. TI. Gracchus (talk) 20:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Oh, you'll be surprised to see how game manuals are in the same gray area as that of the game itself. Many times I have seen that the supporter of something have only changed the source by adding the word "manual" in the title. Manuals come with the game and you won't be able to tell it unless you see either. I suggest you try to improve your justifying grounds. The good news is: It must not be hard. I am afraid I can't help because I am already engaged in a Microsoft-related discussion. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

 * I'm still a pretty unexperienced editor, and have a lot to learn. I hadn't thought of people cheating their way around primary source use guidelines by just slapping "manual" on a videogame source, but I can see why some less scrupulous editors would be tempted to do something like that.  I'm not actually here to source this section, since I have neither the time or the inclination, but I figured I'd give fair warning before removing it.  It's obvious that people have worked hard on it, even if it probably needs to be removed, so I figure that's the least I can do.  Thanks for helping me understand some of the complexities of videogame sourcing and article editing! TI. Gracchus (talk) 17:54, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Just a word of warning: All my extensive attempts to verify the work of the people whom you just called "cheaters" has come positive. In other words, not only I have never caught a cheater; I succeeded in proving that they are telling truth. In the end, I came to the conclusion that they are wise people, as averse to lies as you and me are; they just cure nitpickers with a smart maneuver. Policy-wise, both manuals and games are in one same gray area called WP:ABOUTSELF and nobody is allowed to request replacement of one in favor of another.

 * So, you want a straight advice: Forget source problem here! There is nearly none. You need to work on WP:IINFO, WP:DUE and other such merits. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 22:26, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

 * Hmm, that still seems really strange to me, but I will accept your guidance on this. I think the section is also far too large and generally trivial, but I suppose I will have to find a new justification for removing it.  Thanks again for all your advice. TI. Gracchus (talk) 16:24, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

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Aikido and the Tengu
In the book entitled Tengu Geijutsuron, known in the west as "The Demons' Sermon on the Martial Arts" (supposedly written by the 18th century samurai Issai Chozanshi and perhaps one of the finest pieces of literature on the Tengu theme), the translator, Mr. William Scott Wilson, states in the introduction that the founder of Aikido, master Morihei Ueshiba, received some of the martial arts secrets from the Tengu on Mt. Kurama. John Stevens, a scholar and writer of Aikido, and a teacher of Buddhist studies, also claims in two of his books, "The Secrets of Aikido" and "The Invincible warrior", that the founder of Aikido not only learned from the Tengu, but frequently took his closest students to Mt. Kurama, and taught them in the place he believed to be the site where Ushiwakamaru learned from Sojobo.

Unfortunately I don't have the links for these statements, but I have read them in the past in all the mentioned books. I suggest the writer of the main page to do a closer research, for this I believe makes the whole Tengu "mythology" much closer to present day! Also, in the Shinto tradition of Shugendo, the Yamabushi monks perform fire and water purification rituals of noted shamanic Hindu origin, making use of medicinal plants and the like. There is a chance that the origins of the Tengu "myth" might be connected to some transcendental visions and experiences, as is the case with most shamanic tribal traditions in the world, from the Maoris in New Zealand to the Yanomami in the Amazon forest.

The undeniable connection between Shintoism and Hinduism can be observed in this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff95twceJR4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.250.119.238 (talk) 05:54, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Tengu in pop culture
I feel like there should be more info on Tengu in pop culture, like there is in the article on Kitsune. An example of a Tengu in pop culture would be in Ace Attorney: Dual Destinies, in the episode "The Monstrous Turnabout", where civilians believe a Tengu named Tenma Taro exists, as well as a kitsune. (Tenma Taro was not real, and was a myth to prevent stealing a treasure. Damian Tenma, mayor of Tenma Town, temporarily claimed he was Tenma Taro, but was actually, in fact, taking the place of the kitsune.) Quartz24 (talk) 15:31, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Regarding sources in the Tengu in Pop Culture section.
Hi, I'd like to ask a question regarding sourcing examples of Tengu in Pop Culture. What do we do about media where the characters are explicitly tengu in either appearance, dialogue, or theming? So much so, that them being tengu would not warrant writing an article on it unless the article was specifically about examples of tengu in popular media?

I understand the importance of proper sourcing and having a secondary source to verify, but I'm not entirely sure if that's practical to do in regards to providing examples of characters that are straight up the traditional Japanese tengu compared to characters with designs inspired by tengu. I'd also like to ask if it would be acceptable to post a Japanese website as a secondary source for examples of Tengu in Popular Media.

Sorry for the trouble, thank you. IceFairy9999 (talk) 07:25, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Reference for Tengu in Touhou Project
The current reference is to a wiki for a Touhou mobile game, not the wiki for the series itself.

https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Tengu

This page would work much better as the reference 94.122.187.112 (talk) 23:36, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Talk:BoA

Added backronyms
Look at the sourced article and check the 2nd picture. It is a press conference with BoA and others. Behind them is a banner saying "Best of Asia. Bring on America. BoA.". All were made to match in font and in case specificity. It is obvious these were created with the purpose of promoting her American debut. Neoyamaneko (talk) 07:10, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes it was created for promoting her American debut, however, it does not mean that it is a backronym of her name. The article you are using as a source does not say that "Best of Asia" or "Bring on America" are backronyms of her name. The Swedish article explicitly says that her name means Beat of Angel, so unless it explicitly states that either of those phrases means or represent her name then what you are adding is original research. And reverting your edits has nothing to do with bad faith all that is being asked is provide a source that proves what you claim. MS   (Talk | Contributions)  07:30, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Continued image change and decline in sales
The "Continued image change" sounds awkward for me. And do we really have to put that as the sub-categories? Couldn't it just be "Decline in sales"? Same with the "Continued activity in Japan." AhnSoonKyung (talk) 02:12, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Broken links: Chosun Ilbo
I noticed that The Chosun Ilbo in English changed it's links structure. There are many of them in Wikipedia, and at least 3 in here. For example, for link 24, the correct link is [BoA Reinvents Herself as Heir to Korean Tradition] I guess someone know how to solve deep links problem in bigger scale, and someone can also fix this and the other links in this subject. Ron64 (talk) 14:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I noticed it too. Must be a structural thing. Ohlly (talk) 17:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Fangirl-ing
This article sounds like something written by a gushing fangirl. Can someone make it more neutal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.233.135.156 (talk) 23:05, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. Can you give me any specific examples of what you see as being "written by a gushing fangirl"? Sorafune   話  23:14, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Woo Weekend
Can someone please put the information together to have her latest single "Woo Weekend" get its own page? When I scroll all the way to the bottom and click on it, it takes me to her discography... The single has been released for 2 days now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.131.223 (talk) 14:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I just restored the page and will now update links. The contents of the page were wiped a month ago due to concerns of lack of notability. エムエックスさん  話  15:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hurricane Venus page
I have noticed that enough information is out for her new album including: Cover art, tracklist, release date, and released singles... I was wondering if someone could put together the webpage. I would do it but I am not too sure how. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.131.223 (talk) 03:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, the info for the writers/composers is all on her website, boa.smtown.com

Could I post this here...? Could someone edit this into a chart?

1. GAME Lyrics by 김부민 Composed, Arranged by hitchhiker 2. Hurricane Venus Korean Lyrics by BoA/홍지유/Kenzie Composed, Arranged by Lidbom, Erik/ Wik, Anne Judith/ Hansen, Martin 3. DANGEROUS Korean Lyrics by 김부민 Composed, Arranged by Troelsen, Thomas/ Larsen, Engelina 4. 옆 사람(Stand By) Lyrics, Composed by 김동률 Arranged by 황성제(BJJ) 5. M.E.P (My Electronic Piano) Lyrics by 김정배 Composed, Arranged by Kenzie 6. LET ME Lyrics, Composed by BoA, Arranged by hitchhiker 7. 한별(Implode) Lyrics, Composed, Arranged by 김종완 8. ADRENALINE Korean Lyrics by 김이나 Composed, Arranged by Lindy Robbins / Tobias Gad 9. 하루하루(Ordinary Day) Lyrics, Composed by BoA Arranged by Gakushi 10. Don’t Know What To Say Korean Lyrics by BoA Composed by Degiorgio, Vincent Paul/ Newman, Robyn / Tishler, Matthew Arranged by 권순훤 11. 로망스(Romance) Lyrics by 안신애 Composed by 황찬희 Arranged by 송영주 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.5.194.119 (talk) 15:24, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

USA CAREER
Does this mean BoA is done with her USA career because the article doesn't explain what happened.70.156.106.157 (talk) 14:40, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

Audio-Technica endorsement
Audio-Technica site says she's an endorser of the company's products (link). I've seen a 30-second CM where she uses the ATH-Pr0700 (link). Any confirmation? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.130.84 (talk) 00:56, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

 * It's pretty obvious she's a promoter of A-T if she's in one of their commercials. Added in Image and Artistry, although I find the idea of listing all the products and companies a person has appeared for in adverts overkill, in a way. Eagle Pilot (talk) 08:10, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Queen of K-Pop
This title should stated here because lots of articles and news about her we're called and stated her officially as the 'Queen of K-Pop'. Even on 'Honorific nicknames in popular music' (link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honorific_nicknames_in_popular_music) was stated her as the 'Queen of K-Pop'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.206.63.175 (talk) 11:13, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

South Korean Roman Catholics??
references? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.110.141.1 (talk) 03:17, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Message/Call My Name
Putting it here for future use when a page gets made for it. --Prosperosity (talk) 06:47, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Message   Lyr. Kanata Okajima   Mus. Erik Lidbom, Andreas Oberg Call My Name Lyr. Sara Sakurai  Mus. Nermin Harambasic, Anne Judith Wik, Ronny Svendsen, Yuta Nakano

Personnel
Personnel details were sourced from the liner notes booklet of "Message / Call My Name".

 * BoA – vocals
 * Nermin Harambasic – arrangement (#2, #4)
 * Ko Mi-young – make-up
 * Kwon Soon-wook – music video "Message" director
 * Erik Lidbom – arrangement (#1, #3)
 * Metaoloz Creative Group – music video "Message" production
 * Yuta Nakano – arrangement (#2, #4)
 * Satsuki Naono – creative coordination
 * Andreas Oberg – guitar (#1, #3)
 * Tsutomu Ono – photography
 * Seo Han-young – styling
 * Shin Yun-seo – hair
 * Ronny Svendsen – arrangement (#2, #4)
 * Koji Wagatsuma – art direction, design
 * Anne Judith Wik – arrangement (#2, #4)

Masayume Chasing
And adding Masayume. --Prosperosity (talk) 02:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Masayume Chasing  Lyr. Junji Ishiwatari   Mus. Steven Lee, Caroline Gustavsson Fun Lyr. Akira  Mus. Erik Lidbom, Martin Kleveland

Personnel
Personnel details were sourced from the liner notes booklet of "Masayume Chasing".

 * Anna – hair, make-up
 * BoA – vocals
 * Kazutoshi Fuku – DVD producer
 * Keiko Hitotsuyama – styling
 * Martin Kleveland – production (#2, #4)
 * Takaki_Kumada – photography
 * Steven Lee – production (#1, #3)
 * Satauki Naono – creative coordination
 * Daisuke Ninomiya – DVD director
 * Tomokazu Suzuki – art direction

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Best II and Best & USA the same album
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She is referred to as the Queen of Korean Pop
Is it a self-proclaimed title? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.92.186.60 (talk) 10:07, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

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