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Institutional economics

Institutional economics focuses on understanding the role of the evolutionary process and the role of institutions in shaping economic behavior. Its original focus lay in Thorstein Veblen's instinct-oriented dichotomy between technology on the one side and the "ceremonial" sphere of society on the other. Its name and core elements trace back to a 1919 American Economic Review article by Walton H. Hamilton. Institutional economics emphasizes a broader study of institutions and views markets as a result of the complex interaction of these various institutions (e.g. individuals, firms, states, social norms). The earlier tradition continues today as a leading heterodox approach to economics.

"Traditional" institutionalism rejects the reduction of institutions to simply tastes, technology, and nature (see naturalistic fallacy). Tastes, along with expectations of the future, habits, and motivations, not only determine the nature of institutions but are limited and shaped by them. If people live and work in institutions on a regular basis, it shapes their world views. Fundamentally, this traditional institutionalism (and its modern counterpart institutionalist political economy) emphasizes the legal foundations of an economy (see John R. Commons) and the evolutionary, habituated, and volitional processes by which institutions are erected and then changed (see John Dewey, Thorstein Veblen, and Daniel Bromley). Institutional economics focuses on learning, bounded rationality, and evolution (rather than assuming stable preferences, rationality and equilibrium). It was a central part of American economics in the first part of the 20th century, including such famous but diverse economists as Thorstein Veblen, Wesley Mitchell, and John R. Commons. Some institutionalists see Karl Marx as belonging to the institutionalist tradition, because he described capitalism as a historically bounded social system; other institutionalist economists disagree with Marx's definition of capitalism, instead seeing defining features such as markets, money and the private ownership of production as indeed evolving over time, but as a result of the purposive actions of individuals.

A significant variant is the new institutional economics from the later 20th century, which integrates later developments of neoclassical economics into the analysis. Law and economics has been a major theme since the publication of the Legal Foundations of Capitalism by John R. Commons in 1924. Since then, there has been heated debate on the role of law (a formal institution) on economic growth. Behavioral economics is another hallmark of institutional economics based on what is known about psychology and cognitive science, rather than simple assumptions of economic behavior.

Some of the authors associated with this school include Robert H. Frank, Warren Samuels, Marc Tool, Geoffrey Hodgson, Daniel Bromley, Jonathan Nitzan, Shimshon Bichler, Elinor Ostrom, Anne Mayhew, John Kenneth Galbraith and Gunnar Myrdal, but even the sociologist C. Wright Mills was highly influenced by the institutionalist approach in his major studies.

Thorstein Veblen
Thorstein Veblen (1857–1929) wrote his first and most influential book while he was at the University of Chicago, on The Theory of the Leisure Class (1899). In it he analyzed the motivation in capitalism for people to conspicuously consume their riches as a way of demonstrating success. Conspicuous leisure was another focus of Veblen's critique.

In The Theory of Business Enterprise (1904), Veblen distinguished the motivations of industrial production for people to use things from business motivations that used, or misused, industrial infrastructure for profit, arguing that the former is often hindered because businesses pursue the latter. Output and technological advance are restricted by business practices and the creation of monopolies. Businesses protect their existing capital investments and employ excessive credit, leading to depressions and increasing military expenditure and war through business control of political power. These two books, focusing on criticism first of consumerism, and second of profiteering, did not advocate change.

Through the 1920s and after the Wall Street Crash of 1929 Thorstein Veblen's warnings of the tendency for wasteful consumption and the necessity of creating sound financial institutions seemed to ring true.

Thorstein Veblen wrote in 1898 an article entitled "Why is Economics Not an Evolutionary Science?" and he became the precursor of current evolutionary economics.

John R. Commons
John R. Commons (1862–1945) also came from mid-Western America. Underlying his ideas, consolidated in Institutional Economics (1934) was the concept that the economy is a web of relationships between people with diverging interests. There are monopolies, large corporations, labour disputes and fluctuating business cycles. They do however have an interest in resolving these disputes.

Commons thought that government should be the mediator between the conflicting groups. Commons himself devoted much of his time to advisory and mediation work on government boards and industrial commissions.

Wesley Mitchell
Wesley Clair Mitchell (1874–1948) was an American economist known for his empirical work on business cycles and for guiding the National Bureau of Economic Research in its first decades. Mitchell's teachers included economists Thorstein Veblen and J. L. Laughlin and philosopher John Dewey.

Clarence Ayres
Clarence Ayres (1891–1972) was the principal thinker of what some have called the Texas school of institutional economics. Ayres developed on the ideas of Thorstein Veblen with a dichotomy of "technology" and "institutions" to separate the inventive from the inherited aspects of economic structures. He claimed that technology was always one step ahead of the socio-cultural institutions.

Ayres was heavily influenced by the philosophy of John Dewey. Dewey and Ayres both utilized the instrumental theory of value to analyze problems and propose solutions. According to this theory, something has value if it enhances or furthers the life process of mankind. Therefore, this should become the criterion to be utilized in determining the future courses of action.

It can be argued that Ayres was not an "institutionalist" in any normal sense of the term, since he identified institutions with sentiments and superstition and in consequence institutions only played a kind of residual role in this theory of development which core center was that of technology. Ayres was under strong influence of Hegel and institutions for Ayres had the same function as "Schein" (with the connotation of deception, and illusion) for Hegel. A more appropriate name for Ayres' position would be that of a "techno-behaviorist" rather than an institutionalist.

Adolf Berle
Adolf A. Berle (1895–1971) was one of the first authors to combine legal and economic analysis, and his work stands as a founding pillar of thought in modern corporate governance. Like Keynes, Berle was at the Paris Peace Conference, 1919, but subsequently resigned from his diplomatic job dissatisfied with the Versailles Treaty terms. In his book with Gardiner C. Means, The Modern Corporation and Private Property (1932), he detailed the evolution in the contemporary economy of big business, and argued that those who controlled big firms should be better held to account.

Directors of companies are held to account to the shareholders of companies, or not, by the rules found in company law statutes. This might include rights to elect and fire the management, require for regular general meetings, accounting standards, and so on. In 1930s America, the typical company laws (e.g. in Delaware) did not clearly mandate such rights. Berle argued that the unaccountable directors of companies were therefore apt to funnel the fruits of enterprise profits into their own pockets, as well as manage in their own interests. The ability to do this was supported by the fact that the majority of shareholders in big public companies were single individuals, with scant means of communication, in short, divided and conquered.

Berle served in President Franklin Delano Roosevelt's administration through the depression, and was a key member of the so-called "Brain trust" developing many of the New Deal policies. In 1967, Berle and Means issued a revised edition of their work, in which the preface added a new dimension. It was not only the separation of controllers of companies from the owners as shareholders at stake. They posed the question of what the corporate structure was really meant to achieve.

"“Stockholders toil not, neither do they spin, to earn [dividends and share price increases]. They are beneficiaries by position only. Justification for their inheritance... can be founded only upon social grounds... that justification turns on the distribution as well as the existence of wealth. Its force exists only in direct ratio to the number of individuals who hold such wealth. Justification for the stockholder's existence thus depends on increasing distribution within the American population. Ideally the stockholder's position will be impregnable only when every American family has its fragment of that position and of the wealth by which the opportunity to develop individuality becomes fully actualized.”"

John Kenneth Galbraith
John Kenneth Galbraith (1908–2006) worked in the New Deal administration of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Although he wrote later, and was more developed than the earlier institutional economists, Galbraith was critical of orthodox economics throughout the late twentieth century. In The Affluent Society (1958), Galbraith argues voters reaching a certain material wealth begin to vote against the common good. He uses the term "conventional wisdom" to refer to the orthodox ideas that underpin the resulting conservative consensus.

In an age of big business, it is unrealistic to think only of markets of the classical kind. Big businesses set their own terms in the marketplace, and use their combined resources for advertising programmes to support demand for their own products. As a result, individual preferences actually reflect the preferences of entrenched corporations, a "dependence effect", and the economy as a whole is geared to irrational goals.

In The New Industrial State Galbraith argues that economic decisions are planned by a private bureaucracy, a technostructure of experts who manipulate marketing and public relations channels. This hierarchy is self-serving, profits are no longer the prime motivator, and even managers are not in control. Because they are the new planners, corporations detest risk, requiring steady economic and stable markets. They recruit governments to serve their interests with fiscal and monetary policy.

While the goals of an affluent society and complicit government serve the irrational technostructure, public space is simultaneously impoverished. Galbraith paints the picture of stepping from penthouse villas on to unpaved streets, from landscaped gardens to unkempt public parks. In Economics and the Public Purpose (1973) Galbraith advocates a "new socialism" (social democracy) as the solution, with nationalization of military production and public services such as health care, plus disciplined salary and price controls to reduce inequality and hamper inflation.

New institutional economics
With the new developments in the economic theory of organizations, information, property rights, and transaction costs, an attempt was made to integrate institutionalism into more recent developments in mainstream economics, under the title new institutional economics.

Institutionalist political economy
The vacillations of institutions are necessarily a result of the very incentives created by such institutions, and are thus endogenous. Emphatically, traditional institutionalism is in many ways a response to the current economic orthodoxy; its reintroduction in the form of institutionalist political economy is thus an explicit challenge to neoclassical economics, since it is based on the fundamental premise that neoclassicists oppose: that economics cannot be separated from the political and social system within which it is embedded.

Criticism
Critics of institutionalism have maintained that the concept of "institution" is so central for all social science that it is senseless to use it as a buzzword for a particular theoretical school. And as a consequence, the elusive meaning of the concept of "institution" has resulted in a bewildering and never-ending dispute about which scholars are "institutionalists" or not—and a similar confusion about what is supposed to be the core of the theory. In other words, institutional economics has become so popular because it means all things to all people, which in the end of the day is the meaning of nothing.

Indeed, it can be argued that the term "institutionalists" was misplaced from the very beginning, since Veblen, Hamilton and Ayres were preoccupied with the evolutionary (and "objectifying") forces of technology and institutions had a secondary place within their theories. Institutions were almost a kind of "anti-stuff"; their key concern was on technology and not on institutions. Rather than being "institutional," Veblen, Hamilton and Ayres’ position is anti-institutional.

Response
According to Thaler and Sunstein, a person is not generally best described as an Econ, a person with mainly self-interest in mind, but rather as a Human. Institutional economics, consistent with Thaler and Sunstein, sees humans as social and part of a community, which has been extracted from neoclassical economics. The Metaeconomics Frame and Dual Interest Theory argues that it is essential to integrate institutional and neoclassical economics.

Journals

 * Journal of Economic Issues and article-abstract links to 2008.
 * Journal of Institutional Economics with links to selected articles and to article abstracts.
 * Journal of Institutional and Theoretical Economics
 * Evolutionary and Institutional Economics Review

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Featured article question
Harry - I saw your question on the help desk ("I was considering suggesting an article for featured status, and wondered if the presence of links to as yet non-existent articles is considered a no-no in featured articles."). I'm the "featured article director" so I know my way around the process fairly well. We have two big rules on the featured article candidates - all objections must be actionable (that is, they can be fixed) and that they must be intrinsic to the article itself (that is, whatever problem you object to has to apply to the article itself, and not to something outside the article). In the case of links to nonexistant articles, thsoe fall pretty much into the latter category. If you have tons and tons of red links, someone will probably ask you to turn them into stubs; but as long as you don't have tons of them, it shouldn't be a problem. →Raul654 07:54, Nov 13, 2004 (UTC)

 * Hi Raul, many thanks for you helpful post. I'm pretty new to this (not even sure if this is the right place to reply, I hope you'll see it!). But I'm very impressed by the whole Wikipedia thing, in terms of coverage, quality of articles and the largely positive spirit of contributors, so have started cotributing the odd article. I have only one or two red links, very relevant to the article, so I'll just write stubs for them to make them blue. Then I'm not sure if I should submit the thing for peer review as has been suggested or just straight to the featured articles suggestions page? Harry 11:35, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * Either way is fine. →Raul654 06:37, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

Did you know has been updated
And an article you created recently has made the line up and is now featured on the main page. Enjoy! -- [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|(talk)]] 21:32, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)

That was quick! Very flattering to see my article on the front page. Thanks for letting me know (and for choosing it, if that was to do with you). Harry 01:38, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Louis Armstrong
Thanks for your work in improving the Armstrong article. I do have a concern that in your generally good edit to "streamline flabby and misspelt para" (I fear such flab and misspelling is likely my fault, sorry) some relevent information might have been lost. Specifically, that Armstrong thought that laxatives were good for preserving one's health in general, not just for losing weight. (There were other points as well, such as valuing the practice taught him by his mother. No doubt much more could be written about Armstrong and "Pluto water", Swiss Kriss, etc.) Perhaps we could discuss on Talk:Louis Armstrong? Thanks, -- Infrogmation 13:09, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. My reply posted there. --Harry 13:53, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Pope John Paul II
(moved from User:Flapdragon)

Re Pope John Paul II - "(traditional views -> conservative views, more precise and avoids repetition)" - I was about to make the very same change myself but saw that you'd got there first! Ben Finn 16:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Great minds... Flapdragon 19:41, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Emily Davison
I heard the story on a BBC TV programme; there are numerous references to it on the web although without much further detail. These include the BBC's discussion of the Benn story ; Hansard also carries a brief discussion of it.

 * Thanks. Flapdragon 11:11, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

Re: Careful with that word "vandalism"!
"On 20 Mar 2005 you reverted a small edit to University of Oxford as "vandalism" which was nothing of the sort. The Assassins and the Bullingdon, added by an anon contributor to the list of Oxford "Institutions", are indeed two well-known (not to say notorious) Oxford dining societies."

My wrong. Since Bullingdon was red link, Assasins pointed to Alamut thugs rather than innocent students and there was no description at all I made guess it was all nonsense. When looking on user talk page I saw other complaints, one specifically for Oxford.

Looking to this user page again: it is shared IP with one guy putting a link to his company to Oxford article and another one(s) making good edits. This is situation that makes mistakes very easy. Pavel Vozenilek 17:09, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians in Gloucestershire
Have you considered adding yourself to the Gloucestershire wikipedians category? To do so, add this to your user page:

--Celestianpower hab 15:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar
Fir e  Fo  x  17:14, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Flapdragons
No idea if this is where you get your name from, but I've just written an article on flapdragons, and if you know anything more about them I'd be delighted if you could add it!

Cheers, Z iggurat 03:10, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thank you for the compliment! I first came across the game in The Annotated Alice, and was surprised that there was no good single source for information on the practice (I'm going to try it this Christmas, I think). The article was intended as the best single reference on Snap-dragons on the 'net, so that next time someone looks it up they don't have to wade through lots of Victoriana to get some information! Z iggurat  03:19, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Libido for the Ugly
I saw you edited this page...hahaha I cant believe this is a genuine literary work. freestylefrappe 01:50, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Taverna
I have expanded this article explaining typical taverna cuisine and operations. I would be grateful if you could have a look at it and see what you think. Capitalistroadster 10:58, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

Cedars Maths
Should be speedy deleted as vanity. It's already been deleted at least once in the last day. chowells 18:18, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

I made thAT PAGE On Green Fields because i go to that school and i know what it is like. You should thank me for adding the information about the school. (unsigned comment by 68.0.135.203)

speedy tags
I've just changed a couple of your speedy tags from the last few minutes. They were speedy candidates, but you used the wrong tag. No big deal, but something to watch out for.WAvegetarian 02:43, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I Capuleti e i Montecchi problem
I am still not sure what to do about this. No one has been in touch since you swooped very efficiently on it.

What exactly should I do to get it re-instated and find out how I acknowledge my other page? Kleinzach 01:33, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

I have done what you suggested and have been in touch with Permissions. James D. Forrester wrote back to say "your permission has been confirmed and archived" however my I Capuleti page is still in limbo as a result of your action to prevent an assumed copyright violation. Can you possibly take the necessary action to get it released? Thanks. Kleinzach 17:23, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

The copyright violation procedure doesn't seem to have been correctly followed as the article was never listed on the Copyright_problems. This should have been done by the person raising the issue. --David Woolley 19:07, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The versoin with extra comment was the last version that I saved. I haven't looked at the speedy process, but there is a two day time limit on that, so it is no longer an option.  You would certainly need to have it labelled with the right tag for it to be actioned by anyone.  The template you included specifically says that you must add an entry on the copyright problems page.  I don't believe there is anything magical about the copyright violation template that prevents it being reverted, although if it were actually listed and were reverted without agreement, it would be considered vandalism.

 * I don't want to get involved in deciding whether there really is a violation at this stage, but if you still are in doubt, you should list it, but starting from today. He can quite legitimately licence the same content on his web site with a more restrictive licence, if he owns the copyright; the question is does he own the copyright, not what are the permissions on the other site.

 * --David Woolley 07:38, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

Pronunciation
I see you've restored some SAMPA which I'd deleted in favour of IPA. When you say that SAMPA is "much more browser-friendly", what browsers had you in mind? There used to be a problem with MS Internet Explorer, but this has now been overcome provided that the Template:IPA is used. At one time a lot of articles used SAMPA, but almost all of these (apart from technical articles specifically dealing with phonetic transcription) have now been converted to IPA-only, in line with Manual of Style (pronunciation). SAMPA and X-SAMPA are just ways of displaying IPA on systems which (unlike Wikipedia) can't cope with the IPA characters, and I can't imagine many people will be familiar with them and not with IPA. --rossb 06:32, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the reply. Using the IPA template is easy: gives  (I hope this appars OK on your browser). As far as SAMPA is concerned, I also think it looks ugly, with the odd mixture of upper and lower case and funny punctuation marks, and some of the characters can be really misleading, for instance V for  or Q for . And of course it's just as meaningless as IPA to anyone who is not familiar with either! --rossb 17:04, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Peter Hollas
''You might be able to help with this. Something odd happened when I listed Peter Hollasfor deletion on 19 November 2005. The formatting magic wouldn't work on that day's AfD page, and failed to put in the header, so that the article sort of disappeared into the melee. Perhaps due to this it attracted no vites even though it's an obvious hoax. Should I relist it? Otherwise it looks as though nothing will ever happen. Flapdragon 15:51, 30 November 2005 (UTC)''
 * The problem was that you didn't include the header. There is no automatic "formatting magic"; it has to be done by manually.  I've done so and listed it on today's afd page. —Cryptic (talk) 15:56, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

''And how would I do that? The instructions are (AFAIK) to add a line like ; neither that nor inserting a new line like line above  worked, though it always has in the past. Try as I might I couldn't see how to edit the "source" that produces this effect. Many thanks for your help with this. Flapdragon 16:06, 30 November 2005 (UTC)''
 * It's not step 3 that you missed, but step 2. If you're adding it by hand (instead of the idiotic instruction creepy afd2 template), it's a normal level-3 header with a link to the article, like ===Peter Hollas===. —Cryptic (talk) 16:11, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Help please
Hi. I noticed that you put in a nomination for Vinyl siding downspout hanger, which appears just before my attempt to nominate Mamnuts. I don't know what I've done wrong! It's not displaying properly! Please can you have a look at it and see if you can fix it for me? Ta. I was sure I followed the instructions. Zordrac 23:02, 1 December 2005 (UTC) No, it was my fault (sort of). I still think that they should make it explicitly clear that normal brackets are not used - they use squiggly brackets ) }. Can you tell the difference by looking at them? )})})} ({({({. Zordrac 23:54, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Festival du Voyageur
Hey, thanks for noticing the mistake I made with the title. --rolo 02:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Festival du Voyageur
Thanks once again. --rolo 02:21, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

ertzainza
thanks for redirect which is what I wanted to do - not worked out how to do that yet Jameswilson 02:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

External links(s)
Flapdragon, you wrote in a recent edit summary: "External links" is correct.

That is a point of view, and one you are certainly entitled to... but it is no more than a point of view. From External links:

"External links" vs "External link"
Some editors use the header "External link" if there is only one link, but others use "External links" in all cases. There is currently no consensus on which is better. Editors who always use the plural form may prefer it for any of the following reasons:

 * 1) experience shows that future editors often add links without changing the section heading
 * 2) people may be dissuaded from adding links to a section titled "External link" since it seems that there should only be one link
 * 3) using "External links" gives greater stylistic consistency to Wikipedia

The converse arguments are:
 * 1) Wikipedia's community-editing leads to prompt correction of such oversights.
 * 2) There is no evidence that a significant number of people would be dissuaded from adding links.  Besides, additional links would often be redundant.
 * 3) Use of "External links" to head a section containing a single link is fundamentally incorrect, a poor precedent to set in an encyclopedia

Picapica 15:17, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Geoff
Two of the delete votes cited the article as vanity and "nn-bio". However, it was neither, as you yourself pointed out. So, seeing as AfD is emphatically not a vote, I decided to close it as a keep. I have also substantially rewritten the article and chucked out everything that the AfD was voting on (so essentially it's the same as deleting it, except that the stuff is still in the history) and moved it to Geoffrey. Johnleemk | Talk 12:16, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * As I said, the new article was moved to Geoffrey, where the original page history can be found. And while I agree that the AfD process should be more transparent, the fact that it is not a vote means there will always be subjectivity involved in interpreting consensus/community decision. Depending on how the discussion goes, different or even the same admins can make different decisions in different debates with the same number of "votes". So my interpretation of consensus in this case was "no consensus; default to keep". I know that's a bit shady, but I think for many people (or at least for me), like the famous US Supreme Court justice who discussed profanity, "I know it when I see it". Johnleemk | Talk 13:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

 * Ah, so that was the issue. Well, I was under the impression that in AfD, consensus is only needed to delete; if there is no consensus, depending on how the discussion went, the article may be kept or merged/redirected. (At least, that's how I read our deletion policy.) So if an article is kept but there's no consensus, it's not too hard to presume that it was kept by default due to a lack of consensus. A 2-to-1 vote is not always consensus, I might add/repeat. (There's a bitter edit war raging over this on Consensus last time I checked — some people are trying to insist on inserting numerical definitions of consensus into the page.) It depends on how the discussion went. Johnleemk | Talk 14:06, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Oxford and the -ize
The link was malformed in the previous edit, which is why it was asking for log-in information (I logged in and got an error message for my trouble. The correct link is on there now; figured you might be interested to read it since you obviously clicked it before. :-) Jibbajabba 23:53, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Welsh Wikipedians' notice board
I've created a fairly simple Welsh Wikipedians' notice board (shortcut WP:WWNB) to try to get things started. Please have a look and consider signing on, adding it to your watchlist and helping to make sure any users with an interest in the subject know about it. Also please feel free to add things and to change anything you feel needs changing – I'm not under the impression that I own it! Rhion 20:10, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Marie Lloyd
So have we lost both instances of the external link, now? Perhaps better to keep one, under "External links"? (Not my addition, btw, just looks useful). :-) JackyR 13:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Cheers, and arrgh! I'm sorry, the "Must use Show Preview" summary was a note-to-self (cos I had to amend the above.) Hope you didn't think I was getting at you... Btw, ta for fixing Lloyd. JackyR 14:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Can I ask a favour please?
Regarding the sentence on the Linda Smith page, can we discuss it on our user talk pages please? That wikipedia page on linda comes reasonably highly on a google search. I'd hate for her family, or anyone who cared for/loved her, to click on that talk page and find squabbles about the page. Not that I'm suggesting you're squabbling. You have genuine questions & make valid points. I was just unsure where this may go & wanted to steer it this way. The comment does mean that it was more figurative and less literal, for her than "many". Because she was a humanist, the concept of the devil held little meaning for her. Although, there aren't that many christians in britain today, an awful lot of people regard themselves to be spiritual. Other religous groups, such as muslims believe an the devil too. So the devil holds more meaning to many. I really like that comment. There's something quite affectionate about it. I think if her family & friends read it, they'd probably see the reference. But if you're against it, we can compromise. I like it & stevecov seem to like it also. The guy that deleted it, doesn't like it. And if you don like it we're tied. So the next person to comment can decide whether it stays or goes? Veej 13:36, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough. I'll just add a little explaination of the phrase on the talk page then. Veej 16:28, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Fuh
Hi Flapdragon.

I thought that fa-SEEN, as in do re me fa sol la ti do, would be better than the possibly ambiguous fuh. I could see someone whose first language is not English interpreting f-u-h by sounding out the letters "ef, ooh, ha: fooh, or fookh". I'm not married to it, so change it if you disagree.

I generally prefer IPA over the ad hoc pronunciation guides which are deprecated by Manual of Style (pronunciation). IPA now seems to be at least as common as the various old not-quite-consistent systems from my high school dictionaries, and it is familiar to readers of current Oxford dictionaries worldwide, as well as people from Europe and the Far East (a Taiwanese acquaintance learning English was using several "English for Chinese" books relying on IPA transciptions). The ad hoc pronunciation seems to me to be useful only to native English speakers, and in some cases only to either Brits or North Americans; not necessarily to both. I can see how they can be useful to convey trivial English pronunciation, but when possible I prefer to write something like "rhymes with machine" (although I couldn't think of anything right for fascine), or at least use actual short words in the pronunciation (hence fa, not fuh).

An example of accessible IPA for less trivial names is at an older version of Pleiades (star cluster), although someone has since removed the guide under the table.

Great illustration on your user page. Cheers. —Michael Z. 2006-03-13 18:57 Z

Neurophone article AFD
Someone is trying to delete this article, can you make a vote and write at Articles for deletion/Neurophone. --JimmyT 11:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

The Magnet Pub
Good day,

I thought you might be intertested to see that the article about The Magnet Pub is [|up for deletion], as you are the only contributor to its talk page. Regards, *Satis 02:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Embarazada
The argument is largely over. But I want to re-emphasize just what an encylcopedia is by asking you to read these definitions from reliable dictionaries: Funk and Wagnall's (Encarta), Oxford Concise, Merriam-Webster's Collegiate, Random House Unabridged, Cambridge, and The American Heritage Dictionary. They all emphasize how encyclopedias cover all fields of knowledge (or rarely, everything about one subject [e.g., literature]). You are advocating moving a two-page article from an encyclopedia onto a site for books. Think about how ridiculous that seems. It doesn't help that moving it there would make the entry nearly impossible to find (as no one would look for it there and few visit the site).--Primetime 18:37, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Presumably "the argument is largely over" means "I have no answers to give". You are still unable to explain how anyone would find the entry where it is at the moment. You fail to answer either of my questions. You fail to retract or substantiate your unfounded allegation that I misquoted you. And yet again you fail to understand that "covering all fields of knowledge" (ie not specialising in one field) is not the same as including all and any categories of information or giving the reader practical tips on how (not) to do things. Encyclopaedias are not there to teach people how to speak a language. It's very straightforward concept. Can you point to a single comparable entry in an existing English-language encyclopaedia, ie an article about a foreign word that might be the result of a mistranslation? Or do you just know better than all existing encyclopaedias (not to mention those of us whose professional background in language reference publishing goes back a decade or more) what should go into them? Flapdragon 11:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Not true. I can debate this forever with you if you'd like. Many people come to Wikipedia through Google. I have observed that the larger I make my articles on Wikipedia, the more visitors it attracts, and the more prominence it gets in Google searches. Thus, in the future, when someone searches for embarazada in Google, my page will be displayed first. Further, Wikipedia is searched using OneLook Dictionary Search along with other reference works. As for other encyclopedias that define words, I already mentioned the Enciclopedia universal ilustrada europeo-americana. There's also any of the encyclopedias made by Larousse. As for quoting me out of context, you said "but specifically asked people (most of them very new to WP) to support him 'as a favor' (or even 'a huge favor'): 'I would be greatly in your debt'". That's a misquote as I did not ask anyone to support me.--Primetime 11:53, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

Tamsin Greig
Personally i am rubbish with IPA, so to me "gregg" is certainly more accessible, however, i was under the impression that it was wikipedia policy to only use IPA, seeing as spelling things out can lead to differences in opinion. Was what you added, really following guidelines? Amo 19:52, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

James Murray (lexicographer) and James Augustus Murray
Please see User_talk:Smallweed. Shyamal 03:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry
Remember me from my old vandal days? Especially this range of edits. Sorry for doing that. Now I am a good wikipedian. Thanks, -- GeorgeMoney T·C 05:54, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you help me with a reference you added?
Hi Flapdragon. A long time ago, you added a reference to the page about the IPA. It was:
 * Geoffrey K. Pullum and William A. Laduslaw, Phonetic symbol guide, Chicago: University of Chicago Press 1986, ISBN 0-226-68532-2.

I know it's unlikely that you'd still have the book, but if you do, could you tell me which facts in the article it should be cited to? If it helps at all, the article looked like this when you added the reference. I ask because we are trying to bring the article up to FA status and we need to cite sources in the text.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 18:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I understand. Perhaps there are some facts in the article that could be cited with the book, though? Which facts could reference it, that could've been from the book?--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 01:13, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Rothschild Wife's Death
According to Philippe de Rothschild's memoirs as well as other memoirs of the Rothschild family, his estranged wife, Elisabeth (Lili), was not gassed or did she die of typhus at Ravensbruck. All the histories of the family state that she was thrown alive into an oven. Mowens35 14:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I will be researching this and citing the family's understanding that she died neither of gassing or nor of typhus. Mowens35 13:13, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

'Patter' not 'patois'
I stand corrected. Cheers, Ron --RDT2 13:20, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

Isle of Cumbrae
Hi there Flapdragon, a couple of questions I hope you have the time to respond to - Any reason (apart from the typo and me apparently being "confused and speculative"!) as to why you possibly deleted the following? Seeing as my friend (another Millport resident) was Lynn Ferguson's tutor at art school???

As written - A recent BBC Radio 4 series, Millport (radio show) (written by Lynn Ferguson, the voice of Mac in Chicken Run by Aardman Animations) humorously covered most of the tired clichés about an island community stuck in a cosy 1950s timewarp - but perhaps these sentiments explain why the island is still so popular in the minds of both nostalgia-seeking 30-somethings and fresh-eyed visitors.

Current (completely denuded of local context; have a look at [] to get a flavour) - The island was immortalised in the BBC Radio 4 comedy series, Millport, written by and starring Lynn Ferguson, the voice of Mac in the animated film Chicken Run.

I would also be interested to ask your advice as to why several other edits that have been made to this page since I last visited - clearly from contributors hundreds, if not thousands of miles away - have been allowed to "ride roughshod" over the authenticity of the entry (i.e., removing the work of an actual year-round resident - myself!).

Many thanks cordeaux

Isle of Cumbrae
Hi Flapdragon, still not sure why you have deleted the entry or why I'm "confused and speculative", it's hardly controversial! Has to be seen in the context of the West of Scotland - try looking up Elaine C. Smith.

""confused and speculative"" cordeaux

Messa di Gloria
Hi, times ago I had an other talk about this. You are correct: this cannot be called Messa di Gloria because there are other parts. Nonetheless, Ricordi for a long time entitled the piano score (not the full score!) "Messa di Gloria". Just one of the many mistakes of musica publishers! but many people still know and use the wrong title. If you need a bibliographical reference about the Messa, see Dieter Schickling, Giacomo Puccini, Catalogue of Works, Bärenreiter 2003, pp. 69-73.

BTW, I wrote it:Giacomo Puccini, where you can find correct info about his compositions. I am an Italian musicologist. Best, --Al Pereira(talk) 05:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

 * Maybe I wasn't clear. Move to Messa (Puccini): the title Messa di Gloria is wrong! --Al Pereira(talk) 12:18, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

 * I totally disagree that "the entry should refer to the work by the name that is actually used", but the name that is actrually used is Messa. That's all! If you don't know the most important catalogue of Puccini's works, this is your problem, not mine. I gave you the bibliographical reference. How difficult is working on wiki. If you don't know the question, trust whom knows it. --Al Pereira(talk) 12:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Heliopolis
What is your problem??? The heliopolii were also called "the destroyer of cites" when originally used a siege towers. Dont go editing and deleting comments from users that have information to back their fascts up. whaoag 21:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

LlanfairPG and "-gogogoch" form
Flapdragon: error it may be, but I have seen "my" erroneous form in print many, many times in the past 45 years or so - and therefore I assert that it has some currency. Also, why rely on Google search? I'm not sure it "proves" anything!

Also, why did you remove my addition of "Ynys Môn" for Anglesea? Hair Commodore 17:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

(Partial) apology
Snapdragon, you're probably right - I certainly concede most of your points.

The only thing I'll add is that I do have a "User talk" page - so please direct any response there, and not to my "User" page - which I have not set up yet (or hadn't, until you created it for me!). By the way, if you saw me, you would - instantly - know why I call myself User:Hair Commodore! Hair Commodore 18:37, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Help - how to avoid an article being automatically being deleted!
Hi Flapdragon. Thanks for your help and adding value to my articles. Quick question, how do I avoid Peter Young (Head Teacher) from being deleted? See it's talk page for more. Thanks!

Tinminer 15:11, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for feedback Flapdragon on my talk page.

I have to disagree with you though, for the simple reason that the Computer Suite is named in his honour. If you went around a stately home and say a room name Joe Bloggs, you would be interested in why it was named as such. I feel that, in terms of the history of Marling School it, at least, deserves a mention.

Tinminer 11:41, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

elicting feedback from other Wikipedians
Hi Flapdragon. Thanks for your help and support so far. I have done a lot of contributions on the Cornish media category (which I also created), and I have written over 15 articles which fits within the new category (e.g. The Cornish Times. However, there has been no Talk/Discussion feedback on any of them as yet. How do I ask for other Wikipedians to look over it and comment? Many Thanks! Tinminer 17:12, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

"Brenin Llwyd"
I've just come across the article on the Brenin Llwyd and noticed your comment on the Talk Page. To say that I have doubts about the article's authenticity would be an understatement. I've given my reasons on the Talk Page and was wondering if you have anything further to add? I think the article belongs in Fantasy or Fiction. Any suggestions? Enaidmawr 00:58, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Diolch am eich ymateb. I've added some references about the unreliability of the source that's been added on the article's page and also a further note on the Talk page. Rwtsh ydy'r gair, yn fy marn i hefyd. This is just a bit of American "Celticana". Hwyl, Enaidmawr 19:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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British English
I have a question for you regarding your changing of pages to British English. Although, true, some pages are regarding European companies, is not wikipedia an American enterprise? Since the great majority of wikipedia users (and people in the world) use American English, should not the encyclopedia, too, use it? If we went by this 'European therefore British' rule, what do you suggest we do for African related (South African Enlish?) Oceanian related (Australian English?), and Asian related (just none altogether?) pages? Are pages discernably tied to certain dialects of English? Should not then, pages about France or Germany be in French and German respectively?

I'm sure you can see where I stand on the argument, but I didn't just want to go back and blatently revert the pages. Please consider this and at the least give me some reasons why your method is better. Alexandre-Jérôme 05:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

It is clear that I am have not familiarized myself amply with the regulations of wikipedia; you are correct. Would you be so kind as to show them to me? I consider myself corrected: good job and continue to embetter wikipedia as you so clearly have been doing! Alexandre-Jérôme 06:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

AH!! I found it without needing you to show me. The rule is, "do not change it without reason," "only change it if it is directly related to a certain country" and "if not specific to any English-speaking country, use the original version" Therefore, since the original version was British English, you are correct to have changed it. However, what you said about its being European being a reason is incorrect so although you were 100% correct on many things and deserve applause for being well-informed, be aware that the reason given is not the actual one Alexandre-Jérôme 06:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

More rwts?
I thought you might be interested in this: Gorboth. I've removed the references to Welsh myth and the Welsh mythology category. Sounds like the Brenin Llwyd all over again! Diolch am eich cyfraniadau y tro dwetha. Hwyl, Enaidmawr 14:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

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Llanfairpwllgwyngyll
''The village was originally known as Llanfair Pwllgwyngyll "St Mary's church in the hollow of the white hazel", and there was a nearby hamlet called Llantysilio Gogogoch "the church of St Tysilio of the red cave". The names were linked by an in-between feature, the chwyrn drobwll, or rapid whirlpool.'' Diolch am dynnu fy sylw at hyn. It's well-attested that the "full name" was invented for the tourists. According to the late Melville Richards of Prifysgol Cymru, Bangor, widely regarded as the leading authority on Welsh place-names, Pwllgwyngyll was the medieval 'tref' with a church dedicated to Mair; so it became Llanfairpwllgwyngyll with time. Never heard of "a nearby hamlet called Llantysilio Gogogoch" (as it never existed, I'm sure!). The whirlpool in the invented name could be one of those on Afon Menai. The assertion quoted is nonsense as far as I'm concerned. I'll take a look at the article later this evening when I've more time. Diolch unwaith eto. Mae angen cadw llygad barcud ar yr erthyglau am Gymru i gael gwared o hen lol fel hyn (a'r "Brenin" anhygoel 'na!). Hwyl, Enaidmawr 15:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Finally got round to it; changed the paragraph in the article and added a note after your comment on the Discussion page. Drwg gennyf am adael pethau mor hwyr ond dwi wedi bod yn rhy brysur dros y dyddiau dwetha - sôn am "hwyr", be dwi'n wneud dal ar y we yr adeg yma o'r nos? Hwyl a nos da, Enaidmawr 00:38, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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More vandalism?
Please do not add nonsense to Wikipedia in my user discuss. It is considered vandalism. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. 80.34.135.128 12:46, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

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Bennie Railplane
The potentially libelous comments on the Bennie Railplane article keep getting reinserted by the same user. Granted if the guy has a source to back it up, but now he's putting it back in in bold. Douglasnicol (talk) 18:29, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

 * The comments were reinserted and reverted by myself a couple of other times. Finally I left a warning that the comments could be taken as libel without sufficient evidence or citation to back the accusations up and since then it seems to have been left alone Douglasnicol (talk) 13:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

As stated there was no published material on Hugh Fraser until Malcolm Thwaite discovered his identity and role in the design and development of the Railplane. Mr Thwaite spent over seven years and £3000 researching the Railplane, including visiting Fraser's son in Yorkshire and his former business partner in Hemel Hempstead. Mr Black's research materials can be viewed at East Kilbride Library and there is nothing whatsoever on Hugh Fraser. There is however a copy of a letter indicating that the Glasgow Museum of Transport were in possession of a research file of Mr Thwaite's on the Railplane which, if true, they no longer had any right to possess. Perhaps you should be more concerned about Intellectual Property Rights than alleged libel. Better still read Mr Thwaite's paper, The George Bennie Railplane and Hugh Fraser Airrail Systems of Transport which, last year, was awarded the L T C Rolt prize by the Newcomen Society for the best paper published in the previous three years.

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.205.189 (talk • contribs), at 23:29, 30 November 2007

 * The guy really is incorrigible isn't he, I even tried leaving a message on his talk page explaining wiki's position on what can be classed as uncited sources and the damage that can be done and he comes back with a snappy comment. If there's no backup, it doesn't go in in my opinion. Douglasnicol 00:19, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Incorrigible. 'Beyond correction, reform or alteration'. Collins Concise Dictionary. Perhaps that definition applies more to you than to myself since you clearly appear unable or unwilling to acknowledge either the citations provided or my observation that Wikepedia policy does not prohibit annotations. Your suggestion therefore that I came '...back with a snappy comment' beggars belief. Simply sitting on the sidelines pontificating about non-existent Wikepedia policy and refusing to accept, much less check, verifiable citations not only does Wikepedia a serious disservice but displays a lamentable misunderstanding about serious scholarship. Had you reviewed the policy in the light of my comments and checked the citations and found them flawed I would have been the first to accept 'correction, reform or alteration'. The tenor of your comments throughout however suggest your real objections are based on personal dislike for the annotation (which ironically IS against Wikepedia policy) than it does any real concern either for Wikepedia or for the rules of serious scholarship (which includes editing). As I have shown there IS backup so unless you can demonstrate that there isn't you have no right to delete the annotation.

Dining clubs
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Copyright violation at Charles Kuentz
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Great Auks and penguins
Hi, you might be interested in a few tidbits I found. They are here: Talk:Great Auk. Cheers! Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 09:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thinking Allowed
Ah, a fellow listener! Just listening to the podcast and headed over to make that change myself :o) ➨ REDVEЯS dreamt about you last night 10:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

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Scott Shaw sockpuppets
I thought you might be interested in this: Sockpuppet investigations/Alex West. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 21:47, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

George Bernard Shaw in The Black Book
I had edited this article at one point, and someone had said that Shaw was in The Black Book. I took his name from their list, as well as a couple of others. Since someone had put him there, and since the copy of the book I had said it was interesting that he wasn't on the list, I put down what was said in the book by the translator, John Erickson.

Since what I put seems to keep you awake at night, feel free to go in and remove that sentence, if it's got you so bothered. Thank you. Openskye (talk) 20:18, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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The Headington Shark
Hi. Is there any news on the shark's scaffolding? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, sorry - you just moved that comment from the article, didn't you? Cordless Larry (talk) 20:51, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

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Michelin
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Lapland sesame oil revisited
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Craigend Castle
You have deleted a reference to the castle being placed on the market with no indication as to why. The castle is 'under offer', so this statement is still valid. Shipsview (talk) 09:56, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Apologies - misdirected comments! Shipsview (talk) 16:03, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Precious
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were recipient no. 1700 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:54, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Morris Oxford bullnose
Thanks - now do the same job for poor Mrs Massingberd. Eddaido (talk) 23:50, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

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Keyboardmania

Keyboardmania (alternately KEYBOARD MANIA, and abbreviated KBM) is a rhythm video game created by the Bemani division of Konami. In this game up to two players use 24-key keyboards to play the piano or keyboard part of a selected song. Notes are represented on-screen by small bars that scroll downward above an image of the keyboard itself. The goal is to play the matching key when a note bar descends to the red play point line. The arcade cabinet has two screens - one for each player.

There is also a simulator called DoReMi Mania, which uses *.pms files. However, players can use a MIDI-to-pms converter to simplify editing.

Arcade release
Keyboardmania has three Japanese arcade releases:
 * Keyboardmania (February 6, 2000)
 * Keyboardmania 2ndMIX (October 6, 2000)
 * Keyboardmania 3rdMIX (March 15, 2001)

Super linking session
Keyboardmania 3rdMIX has a linking feature with Drummania 4thMIX/GUITARFREAKS 5thMIX and Drummania 5thMIX/GUITARFREAKS 6thMIX with a dozen songs.

Home version
Keyboardmania has 2 home versions for PlayStation 2:
 * Keyboardmania (September 21, 2000)
 * Keyboardmania II (2ndMIX & 3rdMIX) (February 28, 2002)

The home version of the game has modified controller similar to the arcade keys.

One other notable version is for Windows PCs and it is shipped with the Yamaha EZ-250i Keyboard, which is used to play:
 * Keyboardmania Yamaha Edition (July 23, 2003)

Song lists
The list is incomplete

Notable songs
These songs were later featured in Dance Dance Revolution Extreme and every subsequent Dance Dance Revolution arcade release, excluding Dancing Stage Fusion:
 * Frozen Ray - also in Beatmania IIDX 6th Style
 * Pink Rose - also in Pop'n music 5 (for the Japanese PlayStation) and Beatmania IIDX 12.HAPPY SKY
 * The Least 100sec - one of the dozen songs that can be played in the Super linking Session. This song also appears in Pop'n music and the Beatmania series, including III and IIDX.

Trivia

 * Since there are 24 keys, the range is C3-B4.

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Giant Clam
That giant clam is enormous. Enormously awesome.

Piano Concerto No. 1 (Chopin)
At Piano Concerto No. 1 (Chopin) you removed 'critical' from the sentance, "There are two schools of critical thought concerning the piece." This was there to indicate that they are two differing critical opinions, i.e. opinions espoused by critics, and I think the word needs to remain, but don't want to go putting it back there if you've got a particular reason for not allowing it. Mallocks 20:00, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 * I removed it from there because it said that there were two schools of critical thoughts while only the first one really is. That is if one sees the word critical in a negative light as a harsh and sometimes negative judgement. But if you feel that the word critical was in its right place, feel free to put it back. Janderk 16:06, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

 * I've tried to edit it so that it more accurately reflects what I was trying to say Mallocks 18:56, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

 * Looks good to me now thanks. Janderk 14:19, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

Nudibranch toxonomy edit
Could you please review the toxonomy edit I did on Nudibranch entry. This came up in a list of punctuation problems which I am reviewing and editing. I modified the first two lines and indented everything else under it.

 * Subclass Orthogastropoda  Ponder & Lindberg, 1997 (earlier Prosobranchia, Opisthobranchia)
 * Superorder Heterobranchia J.E. Gray, 1840

If that is incorrect, then please adjust the list tags so it won't get caught by the puctuation police again.

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Pic of the day
Hi Janderk,

Just to let you know that your photo Image:Common clownfish.jpg is due to make a reappearance as Pic of the Day next Monday. I've reused the same caption as last time, but you can make any changes at Picture of the day/August 29, 2005. -- Solipsist 21:32, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Do you have a bigger clownfish?
Hi Janderk

a picture you uploaded has been listed on WP:FPC for possible removal from Featured pictures mainly because it is too low resolution to meet current standards for FP, which prefer images large enough to allow quality reproduction. If you happen to have a higher resolution version available, could you please upload it? That would certainly influence the decision. Cheers, ~ Veledan • Talk 22:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

 * Yes I got a much bigger version, but it needs some tweaks. Also, it is not up to studio quality as I haven't managed to do perfect macros with my amature gear at 20 meter below sealevel while the reef currents are moving me, the anemone and the fishes around. I will see if I can get it uploaded when I have time. In the mean time I suggest to just unlist it. There must be much better clown fish/sea anemone pictures available. Janderk 00:22, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Barracuda
You messed up the movement of the image so that a portion of the page's text ended up in the image caption; see. You're welcome to move the image so it works in more browsers, but please check the results a bit more carefully! Gdr 11:36, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Pictures
It seems to me that the problem with Firefox's alignment of the pictures in articles like boxfish is a problem with the interaction between Wikipedia's image code and Firefox's rendering algorithm best fixed by changing the Wikimedia code for images rather than editing all pages that do whatever it is that goes wrong. I'll try to put together a bug report. Gdr 21:03, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

The arkive link
I answered the exact same question here. I did not remove it specifically from the Manta Ray article. Circeus 22:56, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Looks like you and User:UtherSRG reverted most of my mess already. I undid the leftovers. Sorry about the whole thing. Guess that doesn't bode well for me *sigh*. Circeus 23:50, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:Beethoven wiki.jpg
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 * Thanks for the response and tagging again the image. It was vandalism and anonymous user untagged the image. Sorry for being bothered you. But thousands of images are still untagged, so it is difficult to distinguish that was it really untagged initially or by vandalisn has it been untagged. Regards, Shyam  ( T / C ) 19:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Arles Image Web Page Creator
Hi Jan Derk! I see your clown fish got delisted as a FP. Too bad, but here's something that might ease the disappointment, Arles Image Web Page Creator seems to be using your clown fish image as their official emblem: http://www.digitaldutch.com/arles/screenshots/ (see the top of the page). They've actually been doing it for a while, but I never noticed it was the same photo as your clown fish. Hope that bit of news is of interest! --Fir0002 style="color:#C6CACC; background:#F8FCFF">www 08:13, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

A Minor Barnstar
Hi, I noticed your tweaks to external links on Vincent van Gogh which is on my watchlist, and was very impressed with this quality attention to detail, which I think helps a lot to create a good impression for Wiki. I noticed you've been doing a lot of similar work and hope you will accept this barnstar which recognises such "minor" edits. Thanks. Tyrenius 21:10, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Your common clownfish picture has been nominated for delisting!
Hello. Your common clownfish picture, currently displayed on the clownfish article has been nominated for delisting as a featured picture at Featured_picture_candidates/Common_clownfish. Unfortunatley, the image no longer meets FP standards. If you have a higher resolution copy of the image please feel free to upload it. --Every1blowz 12:52, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

 * Done. A 1600x1200 pixel version is now available. Janderk 09:29, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Note on March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom
You voted in opposition to the recent FPC for a picture of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom because it did not feature Dr. King. You are free to vote however you wish, but as has already been pointed out by another voter, King was by no means the only speaker and this image is not being used to display King or the I have a dream speech. Staxringold talkcontribs 22:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Oceanic Whitetip belongs in the Primary paragraph with Tiger, Bull and GW not in the Mako, Hammerhead paragraph
Take a look at the Importance to Humans section on the Oceanic whitetip shark page. It essentially says (I didn't write this statement but have seen it in one of Jacques Cousteau's books), that the Oceanic whitetip over the long course of human history has killed far more people than the Great White, Tiger and Bull combined.

Why? Because these are mid-ocean attacks that result from ship and plane disasters that nobody (or very few people) lives to tell about; therefore, in modern day shark indices (like the List of fatal, unprovoked shark attacks in the United States by decade page that I did) very few documented attacks are noted.

The Oceanic Whitetip is #1 by a wide margin, so it belongs with the 2GW 3Tiger &4Bull --Hokeman 16:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Invite to Project sharks
Hi!

I have wanted to start a project with the purpose to improve our shark related articles for a long time, but never though we had enough people, now after all the nice collaboration on the Shark attack page I must take the chance of inviting you to try to start up a project sharks. I have had the preliminary writeup on my user page for a long time, please visit, update and edit as you see fit and I hope that you will consider joining. I do not have as much time for wikipedia as I would like to and the next 2-3 weeks will be almost no time, but I still try to get this project running, please join and please invite as many others as you know that might be interested. Thanks. Stefan 14:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Himalaya
Dear Jan, An admininstrator apparently changed the entry "Himalaya" (that you had been instrumental in creating) back to "Himalayas." I've added my 2 cents worth to the discussion page for "Himalayas." Although I don't feel strongly either way about this issue, on balance I agree with you. I think you should request a reversion of the edit (through the channels that the admin mentions in his note.) Stiwari 00:52, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Himalaya image
Replied on my talk page -- Spireguy 15:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for making your image of the black triggerfish freely available! I've used it in chapter 4 of this book: http://www.lightandmatter.com/area1book3.html You are credited in the photo credits section at the end of the book.--207.233.88.25 19:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Glad I could help a little. Looks like a nice book. One can have never enough good physics books. Janderk 23:26, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Spotted_eagle_ray.jpg
Jan, I'm publishing an edition of Jules Verne's 20,000 Leagues under the Seas and I'm going to use your wonderful photo on the book cover. Thanks for making it public domain! I'd like to send you a copy of the book when it is published. Please e-mail me from my Talk page and give me your address. -- Evertype·✆ 22:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

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Photo usage
Hi, I've been working on a small game built around animal quizzes and I wanted to let you know I've used one of your pictures.

I found your picture here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Giant_clam_or_Tridacna_gigas.jpg

And I attributed the picture like this: Janderk with this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Janderk and also added a link to the license: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:public_domain

I hope you're happy with it, please let me know if this is not the case. You can find the game here: http://apps.facebook.com/animalalbum Or through here: http://www.facebook.com/pages/AnimalAlbum/156339584490672

Kind regards, Garfunkel Jansen (talk) 08:27, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

P.S. Thanks for taking the picture and making it available.

Thank You for the Wikipedia Pictures
Hello, My name is Duane Hurst and I recently made a free (non-commercial) English web site to share information with people. I added links to your Wikipedia/Wikimedia freeware pictures (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Brain_coral.jpg and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Caribbean_reef_squid.jpg). I also gave credit to you on my web pages for your work. Thank you for sharing with the public. My website is:

http://www.freeenglishsite.com/

I add pictures such as yours to one of the following major sections of my site: 1. World section - contains information and over 10,000 images of every world country and territory. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/index.htm

2. USA section - contains information and images of every USA state and territory. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/world/usa/index.htm

3. English section - "Mel and Wes" lessons in conversation format. Stories are located in various USA states and world countries such as China, England, Germany, Japan, Mexico and Thailand. Each lesson has many slang terms and idioms, which I link to my Slang Dictionary. This eventually will have over 5,000 terms. Currently, it has about 3,000 slang and idioms. I regularly add new lessons and slang terms. Link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/lessons/index.htm Slang Dictionary link at: http://www.freeenglishsite.com/english/slang/Eslang_a.htm

Prior to retirement, I taught English at several private and public universities in the United States.

Please share this free site with your friends. I hope all will enjoy the pictures and find the English information useful. Sincerely, Duane Hurst in Utah, USA

Email address: duanerhurst@freeenglishsite.com --75.169.27.34 (talk) 00:42, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Bedford's Flatworm
I see your photo here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bedford%27s_Flatworm.jpg but the location in the description (Maldives) and on the original photo are different (Thailand), maybe not important but I wondered which was right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walworth (talk • contribs) 00:47, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Little Doe River

The Little Doe River is a river located in Carter County, Tennessee. It forms from the confluence of Simerly Creek and Tiger Creek near the community of Tiger Valley, and runs in a northerly direction alongside U.S. Route 19E until its termination into Doe River just south of the town of Hampton, Tennessee.

title: Little Doe River