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need your help on two RFCs
Please visit these pages and post a comment in support with an example of how this is true. Thanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User:Gamaliel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/User:Robert_McClenon 24.147.97.230 17:19, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

Unicode
You accidentically deleted the Wikilinks to the alphabbets with your last edit. Are you still working on the article? If I see no update from you in the next 15 minutes, I'll clean up. Pjacobi 15:34, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * No permanent damage done. Everything is safe in the article history. But I have a question: Didn't you see that you were overwriting a newer version? There is some speculation, that for unknown reasons some users don't see the newest version and consequently tend to overwrite information in the articles. -- Pjacobi 19:55, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I definitely didn't see the new version, but I am not sure if it Wiki's fault of a simple oversight on my part. It does seem weird that it doesn't look out for "Mid air colisions" the way that Bugzilla does though... Bletch 20:03, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * It does. That's the weird thing. You should get an edit conflict warning. I try to report to the developers, perhaps you can become tester for this defect, if we can reproduce it. -- Pjacobi 20:15, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Boston and NYC meetups
Hey Bletch,

There's a meetup in New York this Saturday, and another in Boston the following week. I hope you can make it to one of them. +sj + 00:24, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

 * There is a meetup in NYC scheduled for Sunday, December 12 as well. (same link)   – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)   23:29, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

Abimael Guzmán
Hi, I noticed your name in the talk page of Abimael Guzmán in the discussion about the photo. I have just replaced it with a decent portrait of him; I agree that the "jailbird" image was pure gov. propaganda. I hope you will agree with this and some other edits I just made to the article. On a more general note, there seem to be several POV warriors haunting these pages (cf, Shining Path and others). Any help in maintaining editorial equilibrium would be most appreciated. All the best, -- Viajero 20:50, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi again, just a quick comment: I had integrated the location where he was incarcerated higher up in the text; I guess you didn't notice in the diff. -- Viajero 09:00, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Falklands
Hi Bletch, I reverted your edit of Lyndon LaRouche, as the Falklands-Malvinas was agreed as a neutral term for the war. It gets about 12,000 hits on Google, though some of those may be Wikipedia's mirror sites, but a lot seem not to be. Hope that's okay. SlimVirgin 23:05, Mar 19, 2005 (UTC)

Punctuation
Hello! Regarding your change, I must confess that I am confused. I have always assumed that the logical view on brackets should be that the sentence should remain grammatically correct when the bracketed expression is removed. That would mean that periods go within the brackets if and only if the sentences they terminate were also opened within the brackets. This is also the rule in my native tongue (which is Swedish). Now, seeing that you are a native English speaker I can only assume that you are correct and that the rules for this in English are less natural than I had thought. You don't happen to have a style guide for matters like these to point me to so I can learn more about a part of your language of which I have obviously been ignorant? Regards, Jao 17:19, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)

Caps
Champagne should be in caps I think - it is a place name.
 * sorry, yes you are right, as the article is split by place vs drink. I do wish the initial caps thing on article names wasnt there - I just noticed I have accidentally capitalised lots of grape names by mistake (as have lots of other people...). Justinc 23:53, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

iraq election quoting not required
The sentence is already caveated at the beginning by stating "They claim..." so it should be clear the source itself is claiming that for the iraq elections to have meaning the U.S. should not be orchestrating the process. Adding quotes there, as you did, only creates confusion. The entire article is a summary of the official position on the iraqi elections, so why should criticisms require "quotations"? zen master   T  13:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Links between Iraq and Al-Qaeda
Could you please vote on the proposed move Links between Iraq and Al-Qaeda → Alleged links between pre-invasion Iraq and Al-Qaeda? The vote is here. Thanks. ObsidianOrder 17:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

RfA
Thanks for supporting my adminship. Cheers, -Willmcw 05:26, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)

William Westmoreland quote
Hi- I see you moved William Westmoreland's quote to wikiquote. I think it is fine to have quotes there, but I don't think that a single one-sentence quote on the wikipedia page clutters up the article. If we were talking about multiple quotes or a paragraph or more, that would be one thing, but I think this short quote says a lot about the man and should stay on his main article page.--Rogerd 17:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Gamaliel
Gamaliel has threatend a revert war on Joe Scarborough. Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gamaliel#Joe_Scarbourough 67.18.109.218 18:06, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Hollywood accounting
Hey, remember that discussion you participated in, on the talk page for Forrest Gump, about how Winston Groom didn't get his fair share of the money? You described it as "one of those reverse-Enron situations where the accountants do tricks to make the movie have close to zero profit", and said you'd create an article if you knew what to call it. It's called Hollywood accounting, and do you want to help polish it up? DS 01:45, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Awp!
Yes. I did do that, and that was a screw up on my part. I had meant to restore your incident notice, but I had forgotten to. What you were supposed to do is copy and paste the template (User, article, difftimes, etc) ABOVE the first line. Not sure exactly what you did, but the template got destroyed.

I do apologize for not restoring or atleast notifying you. That was a major mistake on my part. My only excuse is stress and lack of sleep ^_^;;;

--Tznkai 15:18, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

I have restored it now 2 days on Administrators' noticeboard/3RR, and he has been blocked. Can't see what the problem was, SqueakBox 03:01, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

Johnny Barnes
I'm sorry I didn't respond to your message on Johnny Barnes, I thought you had gone ahead and changed the stub, since I was clearly wrong.--Carabinieri 13:43, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

Thought you...
Thought you might want to see this:
 * Flying Humanoids
 * There is a Aztec or Mayan pix of these things, and people have shot videotape of these things.
 * To see this videotape link, see this link:Click on the RED videotape link Warning, this videotape may have language issues. Martial Law 23:37, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Corrected a bad link. Martial Law 23:41, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Flying humanoids
I know you probably meant well but in this edit you removed the AfD notice, which is not supposed to be removed until the deletion process is finished. --Cyde Weys votetalk 23:57, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Third World vote
Hi Bletch! I saw that you voted for the inclusion of Southeastern Europe as "Maybe" on a Third World map, while you voted "No" for so-called Eastern Europe (including the former Soviet Republics of Europe). I'm curious to know why you consider the Southeastern European countries as "maybe Third World", and the other countries, particularly Russia, Ukraine and Belarus, as definitely not Third World. I'm not trying to get you to change your vote or anything, and definitely not asking for any justification, I'm just curious about people's perceptions of Southeastern Europe in particular, and post-Communist Europe in general. Thanks, Ronline ✉ 11:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Warning
Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. --Scott Grayban 14:40, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Cuba
I see that you have been edit warring with User:Comandante. Instead of edit-warring, please use the talk page of the article. If you continue to revert the article for any reason other than to remove vandalism, you will be blocked for violation of the 3RR rule.--Shanel 14:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

RfC help and Civil Commitment
Need your help/support on RfC on Adam here and would like to get the info on civil commitment in the Human rights in the United States article. Civil Commitment certainly violates rights even if it meant in good faith to prevent more crimes. It affects the ones that wouldn't. --Scott Grayban 12:48, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

*** Important - Your input requested ASAP ***
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Cuba
I saw your edits there and I think you are doing a good job. That article seems to attract trouble. Keep up the good work. 09:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Jim Shapiro
Please see Articles for deletion/Jim Shapiro and AN. Tyrenius 08:12, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

There's always waybackmachine. Old web articles can be referenced, if you have exact URL and date accessed. They would have to be acceptable ones though. Tyrenius 11:32, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Perhaps, but I for one don't know of any articles that fully convey the audacity and (local) ubiquitousness of his advertising practices or his cult following, other than this one . I'd love to be wrong on this one. --Bletch 11:44, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I have replaced the AFD notice on the article, seeing as the discussion is ongoing. Kevin 14:54, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Re. commentators. They can be referred to and quoted directly, provided it can be verified from a reliable source, which a newspaper would be, or a known individual on the internet, but not just an unknown blogger. Tyrenius 15:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

It's entirely up to you what you do. It was deleted as SPEEDY A6 attack page, namely: You can accept that, or, if not, your option is at Undeletion policy], namely to request a Deletion review. This should not be taken as any comment by me on the deletion itself, but is just to acquaint you with procedures. Tyrenius 18:30, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Attack pages. Articles that serve no purpose but to disparage their subject or some other entity (e.g., "John Citizen is a moron").  This includes a biography of a living person that is negative in tone and unsourced, where there is no NPOV version in the history to revert to.

I'm sure there's far more productive things to get on with. Doubtless in future you'll be nailing those references in! Tyrenius 22:35, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Obviously I spoke too soon! By the way, I tried to send you an email when the RfA first appeared to tell you about it, and you weren't on wiki, but you don't seem to have that option enabled? Tyrenius 03:11, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Main Sources
Old files of Shapiro’s web site

Here’s a sample page:

Promotional site making claims for Shapiro + give him a ring + more background & nice things

Legal Ethics Resources on the Web, prepared by Brad Wendel, Associate Professor of Law, Cornell University School of Law – includes Shapiro

Litigation online – Canadian Medical Association

Shapiro in Motor magazine, 2002

From Buffalo News NY 2006 – restrictions on advertising, mentions Shapiro

Brand Week 1999 – “a one-second TV spot that gained him national media attention”

Rochester Democrat and Chronicle – good stories, but you have to pay =

The Daily Orange – S.O.B. Lawyer validates his title (+ Robert Williams quote)

Overlawyered

Lawyer Ads get loud on prairielaw.com

Shapiro’s books
“Sue the Bastards” – book by Shapiro

Chapter 1 of “Million Dollar Lungs” book by Shapiro

Shapiro in web culture
(Blogs show people still talk about him)

Song about Shapiro!

Poem mentions Shapiro

A poet mentions Shapiro

Syracuse uni student – people who have influenced me – Shapiro

A blog: “(The mind reels that Wikipedia has an entry on Jim "The Hammer" Shapiro. Wikipedia knows all.)”

Blog on Shapiro

Shapiro mentioned on Rochester designer web site

Someone fakes Shapiro on friendster – Rochester City News

Jim the Hammer Shapiro (fake page shut down as can be seen in Friends section) on MySpace.com – again showing his continuing appeal

“Who I’d like to meet section” for Kirsten on MySpace – Jim the Hammer Shapiro (only in cached version)

Associated Press story
Below from www.nylawyer.com story credited to The Associated Press (renowned international news agency). NB you can get the story by registering free on this site and searching for the title) ‘’’NY Lawyer Known for Ads Suspended’’’ New York Lawyer May 3, 2004 By The Associated Press ROCHESTER, N.Y. -- Attorney James "Jim the Hammer" Shapiro, known for his television advertising, has been suspended from practicing law in New York state for a year. The Appellate Division of state Supreme Court said Shapiro's commercials were misleading and he impermissibly tried to solicit business from a comatose accident victim. The suspension resulted from a petition by the Grievance Committee of the 7th Judicial District. Shapiro said from his Florida home that the ruling is "unfair and unconstitutional" but has little effect. He sold his Rochester-based law firm six months ago, he said. The court faulted Shapiro's ads that said he will take certain actions on behalf of clients "when, in fact, respondent has not practiced law in a number of years and intended to take no action on behalf of any client." Shapiro said clients who responded to his ads were told up front that he wouldn't be representing them personally. He said the letter to the comatose woman told her to call for information only when she was better.

Use or delete as you wish. Tyrenius 06:36, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

DRV
Bletch, I noticed your vote on the Jim Shapiro DRV was moved to the subpage. You might want to replace it onto the main page so that it gets counted. Powers 12:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Eastern world
Hi, thanks for the message. I really have no idea what happened there. I remember nothing. Must be the drink. Paul B 21:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

SmartGenealogy appears to be freeware, but not free software
Bletch, you are right I saw freeware and equated it with well free! Gioto 01:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Albigensian Crusade
I'm contacting you out of courtesy as you have contributed to the page and may wish to supply your own citations. If you feel this doesn't matter to you, please ignore it. This page was rated as a Good Article, but has been downgraded because nobody did the donkeywork of listing the attributions to the various statements provided, which is after all a fairly serious dereliction of duty in what's suppoed to be a historical record. Having discussed the withdrawal of GA with LuciferMorgan, I give notice that I am sitting down with the three classic original source texts (Puylaurens, Vaux-de-Cernay and de Tudèle - the last in the Livre de Poche edition as the Martin-Chabot is long out of print) to add the missing inline citations to this page. I do not intend at this point to make any textual alterations, but if comments are made which are NOT justified, be prepared to state your sources now. Jel 20:39, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Robby Todino
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AfD
Please see: Articles for deletion/Biographical Dictionary of the Extreme Right Since 1890 (2nd nomination), which you contributed to. Steve Dufour (talk) 03:13, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Nomination of James Chanos for deletion
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Deletion discussion about Park Sang-hak
Hello, Bletch,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Park Sang-hak should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Articles for deletion/Park Sang-hak.

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Thanks, Travelbird (talk) 04:17, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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ArbCom elections are now open!
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Left-wing terrorism
Hi, I've listed Left-Wing terrorism in Articles for Deletion. You were involved previously when it was discussed and you may be interested. AlanStalk 09:08, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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Thorp

Thorp is a Middle English word for a hamlet or small village.

Etymology
The name can either come from Old Norse þorp (also thorp), or from Old English (Anglo-Saxon) þrop. There are many place names in England with the suffix "-thorp" or "-thorpe". Those of Old Norse origin are to be found in Northumberland, County Durham, Yorkshire, Lincolnshire, Cambridgeshire, Norfolk, and Suffolk. Those of Anglo-Saxon origin are to be found in southern England from Worcestershire to Surrey. Care must be taken to distinguish the two forms. Variations of the Anglo-Saxon suffix are "-throp", "-thrope", "-trop" and "-trip" (e.g. Adlestrop and Southrope).

Old English (Anglo-Saxon) þrop is cognate with Low-Saxon trup/trop/drup/drop as in Handrup or Waltrop, Frisian terp, German torp or dorf as in Düsseldorf, the 'Village of the river Düssel', and Dutch dorp.

It also appears in Lorraine place-names as -troff such as Grosbliederstroff (France) in front of Kleinblittersdorf (Germany). It sometimes occurs in Normandy as Torp(s) / Tourp(s) / -tourp or even -tour, for instance : le Torp-Mesnil, le Tourp, Clitourps or Saussetour (Manche, Sauxetorp end 12th century, like Saustrup, Schleswig-Holstein, Germany, former Saxtorppe and Saxtorf, former Saxtorpe 1538 idem, and Saxthorpe in Norfolk, England), all from Old Norse or Old English.

Use
"Thorp" as a word appears in some role-playing games, where it is used to denote the smallest form of permanent collective habitation in the game world. Thorps in Dungeons and Dragons are defined as having between 20-80 inhabitants, while Pathfinder defines them as having 20 or fewer. Hamlets are the next most populous, housing 81-400 or 21-60 people in the respective games.

license: Creative Commons - Attribution Share-Alike - https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/

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Talk:Exploding whale

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“In popular culture” section
On August 8 of 2008 the whole section was deleted with a comment about how it's “not because it's trivia, but because it's unsourced”. So several questions arise about it: So, I need help with sorting this all out. Thanks. DaemonDice (talk) 02:09, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * shouldn't there be source-request tags first, before deletion?
 * if the problem is only with sources, would it be ok to recover the section (or its parts) with additional source refs where needed?
 * higher on this page there was already a little talk on similar issue, where as an argument was used the TRIVIA style guideline. I guess it was meant to be linked to this page, so I'll ask about the latter one. It says, that in case of passing mentions there should be included refs of significance, so at least in cases with poetry, song and children's book the whale mention is not a passing one.

I re added this, but will need help finding citations. AceTankCommander (talk) 21:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

A new incident in Faroe Islands
http://kvf.fo/netvarp/sv/2013/11/26/video-her-brestur-hvalurin — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.78.142.203 (talk) 21:21, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

 * I added the KVF footage via the "External Media" template to the bottom of the article, along with the same footage from the Huffington Post. The HP footage is easier to download, has English text in the story, and has a title that warns those with queasy stomachs 2 times.  Hopefully this won't surprise anybody who has read to the bottom of the article.  Smallbones( smalltalk ) 03:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Why is there no link to the Oregon Video?
Just curious... there is a whole paragraph about it and yet when links are added to the video we have people delete the links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.226.213.17 (talk) 23:09, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Whale mass
The reported mass for the whale seems extremely low. Is there a specific source on that number? The reported length of 14 meters makes sense based on the picture, it's a rough cylinder, its radius appears to be around a meter, and its density is about the same as that of water, ~1000 kg/m^3, so its mass should be on the order of 44,000 kg.

According to the article on sperm whales, females are about 11 meters long and 14,000 kg, so the whale being 14 m long and only ~8,000 kg seems unlikely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.152.44.203 (talk) 00:06, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed, of course. This article was first written in the glory days of Wikipedia and it is entirely anecdotal in nature. None of it should be taken seriously. However, if any zoologist or physicist would like to do more calculations it could be borne in mind that being filled with methane might reduce the weight of the carcass since methane is less dense than air. Thincat (talk) 12:17, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Not a preview; I hope.
There is a potential exploding whale beached up in Iceland. No further commentary. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 10:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

And another one now in sweden. -- Cimon Avaro; on a pogostick. (talk) 18:15, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Date issue
In Others/20th century section, the event is said to have taken place in 2011

Split proposal
Having read through the FAR and subsequent comments, I agree that there doesn't appear to be any reliable sourcing tying these incidents together as one concept - they were even different methods of 'detonation', one using chemical explosives and one caused by decomp gas build-up.

I therefore suggest that the 1970 Florence incident be split out to a separate article, and perhaps the Tainan incident to another if sufficient sourcing can be found. This article could then be turned into a disambiguation page. I doubt the other incidents listed are either truly notable, or actually part of some 'exploding whale' topic - as said above, I can't seem to find any sourcing tying them together.

Thoughts? firefly ( t · c ) 13:45, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

 * I disagree. In a quick search, I found an article (from The Atlantic, a major magazine) that covers instances of whale explosions of both types, including the Oregon incident (dynamite) and several decomposition-related explosions: "A Brief History of Exploding Whales" . Here's another one (Live Science) that discusses both explosives and decomposition: https://www.livescience.com/humpback-beached-staten-island - So it is regarded as a single concept. 73.223.72.104 (talk)

 * I don't think this is a very good page at all. Spontaneous explosion and assisted explosion seem very different to me yet they're all mixed in here. You could say the same about factories - Factory accidents may lead to explosions, but some factories explode because they're detonated or attacked. As a page, it makes no sense to me. Too incoherent. Spiny Norman (talk) 10:29, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

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Thunder Bay International Airport

Thunder Bay Airport is an airport in the city of Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada. With 108,130 aircraft movements in 2012, it was the fourth busiest airport in Ontario and the 16th busiest airport in Canada. During the same year, more than 761,000 passengers went through the airport.

The airport is classified as an airport of entry by Nav Canada and is staffed by the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA). CBSA officers at this airport can handle aircraft with up to 40 passengers.

The reference of "International" in the name of the Thunder Bay International Airport Authority Inc. (TBIAAI) is used for business purposes only. The TBIAAI has not sought to receive official Canadian designation as "International", in accordance with all applicable domestic and international requirements as defined by ICAO Annex 9.

History
It was built as the Fort William Municipal Airport in 1938, partly as a means of relieving unemployment.

During World War II, the Thunder Bay (then Fort William) airport was home to No. 2 Elementary Flying Training School, part of the British Commonwealth Air Training Plan. The airport was also used as a base for test flights of fighter aircraft being built at the nearby Canadian Car and Foundry factory.

Before the two cities of Fort William and Port Arthur merged, it was called the Canadian Lakehead Airport.

The airport went under major renovations in 1994 with the construction of a new airport terminal building, including two jetways, a large food court, a gift shop and an arcade.

The airport was handed over from the government in 1997 to the Thunder Bay International Airports Authority, a non-profit organization. The airport handled over 600,000 passengers in 2006 for the first time since 2001.

The airport underwent a runway rehabilitation and upgrade in 2022, this was "the largest construction project undertaken in the history of the Airport Authority"

Historical aerodrome information
In approximately 1942 the aerodrome was listed as RCAF & D of T Aerodrome - Fort William, Ontario at 48.36667°N, -89.31667°W with a variation of 01 degrees east and elevation of 645 ft. Three runways were listed as follows:

Historical airline jet service
A number of airlines served the airport with scheduled passenger jet service in the past from the late 1960s to the early 2000s. These air carriers along with the respective jetliner types they operated from the airfield are as follows:

 * Air Canada (mainline service): Airbus A319, Boeing 727-200, McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30
 * Air Ontario: Fokker F28
 * Canadian Airlines International: Boeing 737-200
 * Canadian Regional Airlines: Fokker F28
 * CanJet: Boeing 737-200
 * Jetsgo: Fokker 100, McDonnell Douglas MD-80
 * Nordair: Boeing 737-200
 * North Central Airlines: McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30
 * Pacific Western Airlines: Boeing 737-200
 * Republic Airlines (1979-1986): McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30
 * Transair (Canada): Boeing 737-200, Fokker F28
 * Vistajet: Boeing 737-200

According to various Official Airline Guide (OAG) editions as well as airline timetables, the majority of jet service operated by Canadian-based air carriers was nonstop or direct to Toronto and Winnipeg. U.S.-based North Central Airlines operated nonstop flights to Duluth with continuing no change of plane jet service to Chicago–O'Hare while successor Republic Airlines also flew nonstop to Duluth with continuing no change of plane jet service to Minneapolis/St. Paul and then on to Denver.

During the mid-1980s, three airlines were competing with nonstop service operated with mainline jet aircraft between Thunder Bay and Toronto: Air Canada with Boeing 727-200 and McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30 aircraft, Nordair with Boeing 737-200 aircraft and Pacific Western Airlines with Boeing 737-200 aircraft.

Airside tenants

 * Confederation College School of Aviation – Aviation Centre of Excellence
 * Hydro One - aviation hangar
 * Innotech Aviation - Shell Aviation FBO
 * Levaero Aviation - authorized Pilatus dealer
 * Maintair Aviation Services - ground handling services
 * Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry Aviation, Forest Fire and Emergency Services - seasonal firefighting aircraft base
 * Ornge Air Ambulance - hangar and regional base
 * Thunder Bay Flight Refuelling - World Fuel Services FBO
 * Wisk Air Helicopters

Groundside tenants

 * Aramark - groundside food services and bar, aircraft catering)
 * Avis/Budget
 * Driving Force
 * Enterprise
 * FedEx
 * National
 * Passages Gift Shop - featuring local gifts and items
 * Pine Tree Catering - Nomad Cafe (airside food services)

Parking and transportation
Vehicles can reach the airport via Ontario Highway 61 and connections with Harbour Expressway and Ontario Highway 11 into Thunder Bay's core.

The parking lot contains 100 short-term spaces, 300 long-term spaces, curbside taxi service and courtesy cars.

Thunder Bay Transit bus route 14 Arthur serves the airport terminal and the nearby Aviation Centre of Excellence. On peak hours, this airport is served every 30 minutes, and 45 minutes outside peak hours. This route connects the airport to Arthur Street and City Hall Terminal.

Infrastructure
The Thunder Bay International Airport has a three-storey terminal building. Since the closure of Sears at Intercity Shopping Centre in 2018, this terminal is the only facility in Thunder Bay which uses escalators.

Thunder Bay's runways are primarily used by small or larger turboprop, similar to the De Havilland Canada Dash 8 Q Series (400), and regional jet aircraft such as the Bombardier CRJ700 series, especially the CRJ900; however, they are capable of accommodating narrow-body jetliners such as the Airbus A320 family operated by Air Canada Mainline and Air Canada Rouge and current generation Boeing 737 aircraft operated by Flair Airlines and on charter or occasional services operated by Air Transat, Sunwing Airlines and WestJet. Historically, the airport routinely handled Boeing 727-200, Boeing 737-200 and McDonnell Douglas DC-9-30 mainline jet aircraft as well as the smaller Fokker F28 Fellowship twin jet in the past. Other larger jet aircraft types have also landed at the airport in the past with examples including a Boeing 720 operated by American Airlines in 1962, Boeing 757-200 and wide body Airbus A310 aircraft operated by Royal Aviation subsidiary Royal Airlines in 1999 and 2000, and a wide body Boeing 747SP operated as the "Global Peace Ambassadors" aircraft for Christian preacher K.A. Paul in 2005. The largest aircraft to land in Thunder Bay is the Antonov AN-124 which made four cargo trips direct from Austria between August 2017 and April 2018 with rail car parts for Bombardier.

The airport also has two fixed-base operators: Innotech Aviation Services for Shell Aviation, and Thunder Bay Flight Refuelling for World Fuel Services.

Incidents and accidents
On 6 April 2009, Yavuz Berke, a 31-year-old Turkish-born Canadian student at the Aviation Centre of Excellence at Confederation College, stole its Cessna 172 at Thunder Bay airport and went for a joy ride. He crossed into US airspace where he was intercepted by two US Air Force F-16 fighter jets. He later landed on US Highway 60.

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Newmarket—Aurora (federal electoral district)

Newmarket—Aurora is a federal electoral district in Ontario, Canada, that has been represented in the House of Commons of Canada since 2004.

The district contains the towns of Newmarket, Aurora, and a very small portion of East Gwillimbury.

The riding was created for the 2004 election by merging 50% of the riding of York North with 24% of the riding of Vaughan—King—Aurora.

According to the 2006 census, 121,924 people are represented in the House of Commons in this riding.

The major industry in the riding is manufacturing, and auto parts maker Magna International is the largest manufacturer. According to the 2006 census, the average family income is $118,060 which is higher than the national average. Unemployment in the riding is lower than the national average at 3.6%. Retail trade and the service sector are also important to the economy.

Boundaries
The riding consists of that part of the Regional Municipality of York comprising the town of Newmarket, the part of the town of Aurora north of Wellington street, and the part of the town of East Gwillimbury south of Green Lane and west of Highway 404.

Demographics

 * According to the 2021 Canadian census

Ethnic groups: 60.5% White, 13.8% Chinese, 6.6% West Asian, 4.4% South Asian, 2.6% Black, 2.1% Filipino, 2.0% Southeast Asian, 1.6% Latin American, 1.5% Indigenous, 1.2% Korean, 1.1% Arab

Languages: 61.2% English, 6.3% Mandarin, 4.8% Persian, 3.8% Cantonese, 2.8% Russian, 1.5% Italian, 1.4% Spanish, 1.0% French, 1.0% Tagalog

Religions: 49.7% Christian (23.5% Catholic, 4.7% Christian Orthodox, 3.9% Anglican, 3.4% United Church, 1.5% Presbyterian, 12.7% Other), 6.1% Muslim, 2.2% Buddhist, 1.9% Jewish, 1.5% Hindu, 37.6% None

Median income: $42,800 (2020)

Average income: $59,350 (2020)

Riding associations
Riding associations are the local branches of the national political parties:

Members of Parliament
This riding has elected the following members of Parliament:


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Exercise Reforger

Exercise Campaign Reforger ("REturn of FORces to GERmany") was an annual military exercise and campaign conducted by NATO during the Cold War. The exercise was intended to ensure that NATO had the ability to quickly deploy forces to West Germany in the event of a conflict with the Warsaw Pact. Although most troops deployed were from the United States, the operation also involved a substantial number of troops from other NATO countries including Canada and the United Kingdom. It was a basic military planning exercise to smooth out issues in the event of an invasion of western Europe, and not a show of force. Once the Cold War ended, it was superseded by other exercises.

The last Reforger exercise was Reforger 93. Exercise Steadfast Defender is the most similar military exercise that has taken place in the 21st century, also involving North American troops deploying across the Atlantic Ocean to exercise with European NATO allies. There is also the biennial Exercise Bright Star that involves operations in the Middle East. However, while NATO members (and other countries friendly to Egypt and the US) are free to participate, Exercise Bright Star is not a NATO exercise.

History
The Reforger exercise itself was first conceived in 1967. During the ongoing Vietnam War, U.S. President Lyndon Johnson announced plans to withdraw approximately two divisions from Europe in 1968. As a demonstration of its continuing commitment to the defense of NATO and to illustrate its capability of rapid reinforcement, a large scale force deployment was planned that would deploy a division or more to West Germany in a regular annual exercise. The first such exercise was conducted beginning on 6 January 1969.

Exercise Reforger 1988 is held to be the largest exercise during the Cold War. Involving around 125,000 troops, it was billed as the largest European ground maneuver since World War II.

These exercises continued annually past the end of the Cold War, except for the year 1989, until 1993. Reforger 75 marked the operational presence of the U.S. Marine Corps in Europe for the first time since World War I, when the 2nd Marine Division's 32nd Marine Amphibious Unit was deployed from Camp Lejeune, North Carolina as part of that exercise.

Reforger was not merely a show of force—in the event of a conflict, it would be the actual plan to strengthen the NATO presence in Europe. In that instance, it would have been referred to as Operation Reforger. Important components in Reforger included the Military Airlift Command, the Military Sealift Command, and the Civil Reserve Air Fleet. The U.S. Army also increased its rapid-reinforcement capability by prepositioning huge stocks of equipment and supplies in Europe at POMCUS sites. The maintenance of this equipment has provided extensive on-the-job training to reserve-component support units.

The last Reforger exercise was Reforger 93. No further Reforger exercises were held after due to German reunification, the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact, and the end of the Cold War.

Reforger units
The following units were earmarked to return to West Germany in case of war:

 * III US Corps, Fort Hood, TX
 * 1st Cavalry Division, Ft. Hood, TX, POMCUS Set at 5 depots in Belgium (Grobbendonk, Zutendaal) and the Netherlands (Brunssum, Eygelshoven) and ammunition depot in Zutendaal in Belgium.
 * 2nd Armored Division, Ft. Hood, TX, POMCUS Set at 4 depots in the Federal Republic of Germany (Mönchengladbach, Straelen, Osterholz-Scharmbeck) and ammunition depot in Kevelaer.
 * 5th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Polk, LA, POMCUS Set at 6 depots in the Netherlands (Ter Apel, Coevorden, Vriezenveen) and ammunition depot in Coevorden.
 * 212th Field Artillery Brigade, Fort Sill, OK, POMCUS Set at 4 depots in the Federal Republic of Germany (Mönchengladbach) and ammunition depot in Kevelaer.
 * 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, Fort Bliss, TX, POMCUS Set at 4 depots in the Federal Republic of Germany (Mönchengladbach) and ammunition depot in Kevelaer
 * V Corps, Frankfurt, FRG
 * 4th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Carson, CO, POMCUS Set at 2 depots at Kaiserslautern.
 * 194th Armored Brigade, Fort Knox, KY, POMCUS Set at 3 depots in the Federal Republic of Germany at Pirmasens
 * 197th Infantry Brigade (Mechanized), Fort Benning, GA, POMCUS Set at 3 depots in the Federal Republic of Germany at Pirmasens
 * VII Corps, Stuttgart, FRG
 * 1st Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Riley, KS, POMCUS Set at 1 depot at Mannheim.
 * 1st Canadian Division (Mechanized Infantry), CFB Kingston, ON, Canadian Forces War Stocks at CFB Baden–Soellingen and CFB Lahr.

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Arcade and Attica Railroad

The Arcade and Attica Railroad is a shortline railroad that hauls freight between Arcade and North Java, New York. The railroad originally connected Arcade with Attica; however, the right of way from North Java north to Attica was abandoned in 1957 due to flooding on the Tonawanda Creek.

The ARA's main business is handling agricultural products (e.g. soybeans, corn, and fertilizer), lumber, dairy feed, and other commodities between Arcade and North Java.

As of 2024, ARA now uses its newly acquired 1952 RS3m #114 to handle freight runs from Arcade, NY to Reisdorf Brothers feed mill in North Java, NY.

The ARA also runs passenger excursion trains from May to October on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays. Passengers can ride the 14 mi round trip from Arcade to Curriers Station on restored 1920s-era Boonton passenger coaches as well as a covered gondola pulled by one of the vintage Centercab Diesels (#113, built in 1959, and #112, built-in 1945).

However once the railroad's Alco steam locomotive Arcade & Attica 18 returns from a full rebuild, the General Electric centercab locomotives will take a break from frequent service.

History
The Arcade and Attica Railroad was the latest in a long succession of railroads planned and built through the Tonawanda Valley in Wyoming County.

In 1836, the Attica and Sheldon Railroad was proposed, but no construction ever took place.

In 1852, the Attica and Alleghany Valley Railroad was incorporated to build a narrow-gauge railway from Attica, through Arcade to the Pennsylvania state line. In 1853, the contract was let for construction and most of the road was graded between Attica and Arcade. Construction was discontinued in 1855, and the property was sold at foreclosure on February 2, 1856.

On February 28, 1870, the Attica and Arcade Railroad was organized and began purchasing the right of way with construction of the line scheduled for completion by October 1, 1876. The railroad went bankrupt in 1873, and construction remained uncompleted.

On April 5, 1880, the Tonawanda Valley Railroad was incorporated with major financial backing from the Erie Railroad. The company planned to build a 24 mi, narrow gauge line from Attica, through Curriers Corners, to Sardinia to connect with the Buffalo, New York, and Pennsylvania Railroad. On September 11, 1880, the first train ran on the line from Attica to Curriers Corners. In October 1880, the Tonawanda Valley Extension Railroad was organized to extend the line from Curriers to Sardinia. By that winter the company changed its decision and began building to Arcade, rather than Sardinia. By May 1, 1881, the line had reached Arcade. On July 14, 1881, the Tonawanda Valley and Cuba Railroad was formed to extend the line from Arcade to Cuba via Sandusky and Rushford. On August 27, 1881, the Tonawanda Valley Railroad, Tonawanda Valley Extension Railroad, and Tonawanda Valley and Cuba were merged into the new Tonawanda Valley and Cuba Railroad. By September 4, 1882, the line was complete between Attica and Cuba. The Company built facilities to transfer to the standard-gauge Erie Railroad in Attica and Cuba. In Cuba, the company made a connection with the Bradford, Eldred and Cuba, another narrow-gauge railroad controlled by the Erie.

By September 1884, the company was defaulting on its bonds, and on November 29, the company was in receivership. The company's situation declined further when Bradford, Eldred, and Cuba went bankrupt. The company struggled until October 30, 1886, when it stopped its service from Cuba to Sandusky. On January 19, 1891, the section from Attica to Freedom was sold to bondholders and in May of that year, the Attica and Freedom Railroad was formed. The line went bankrupt and was sold in April 1894.

On October 13, 1894, the Buffalo, Attica and Arcade Railroad was formed to operate the line. The new management switched the line to standard gauge, and by January 1895, the Attica to Curriers section was operating again. By December of that year, the line was open and running from Attica to Arcade. By December 1897, the company had laid a 2 mi segment to connect with the Pennsylvania Railroad near Arcade. By January 1902, the company had built a line from Arcade to Sandusky with the ultimate goal of reaching Crystal Lake. In August of that same year, a flood washed out much of the line between Arcade and Sandusky along with the connection to the Pennsylvania RR.

In 1904, the BA&A was sold to the Buffalo and Susquehanna Railroad which connected the BA&A in Arcade. The B&S operated the line until 1913 when it changed to being operated under lease from the Goodyear family by W. L. Kann of Pittsburgh. The railroad lost enough money in such a short time that Kann ended the agreement on his end. By 1916–1917, the foreclosure of the B&S and W&B forced the Buffalo, Attica, and Arcade into abandonment.

On May 23, 1917, the Arcade and Attica (A&A) Railroad was formed by local investors to operate the line. The line had its ups and downs but survived. It had the enviable distinction of not laying off a single employee during the Great Depression. In 1941, the company purchased a 44-ton diesel from General Electric. The diesel was more dependable and much less expensive to operate than the steam locomotives. Many people credit the diesel for preventing the A&A from going bankrupt in 1941. The Arcade and Attica operated a passenger service until 1951 when the Erie stopped providing a service on the Buffalo-Hornell line, including the connection with the A&A in Attica. In 1957, the line was abandoned between Attica and North Java because of severe washouts in the spring of that year.

During the 1960s, the Arcade & Attica struck its mark when Borden's debuted the non-dairy creamer 'Cremora'. The Arcade facility was the sole Cremora production plant in the United States until its closure in 1970. The Arcade & Attica Railroad brought in the raw supplies and shipped out the finished product across the US, its orange and white boxcars becoming iconic in the process.

On May 27, 2017, the railroad held a celebration marking the corporation's centenary. As part of the celebration, steam locomotive No. 18 was turned on the wye to face the railroad south for the first time in its history. Until that weekend, it had always faced north. Other events included speeches at the station, employee photographs, a ribbon-cutting ceremony, and a cake-cutting at the Curriers Depot.

Excursion line
Railroad freight traffic started to decline due to advances made by the automobile and trucking industries following World War II, and the Arcade & Attica was no exception. A solution was to purchase a light steam locomotive and a couple of passenger coaches for a tourist excursion service. After a few years of searching, A&A management purchased #18, a 2-8-0 from the Boyne City Railroad in Michigan, and two commuter coaches from the Delaware, Lackawanna, and Western Railroad. For 27 days, the A&A offered passenger excursions in 1962. The following year, #14, a 4-6-0 from the Escanaba and Lake Superior Railroad and more coaches were purchased. Now, the Arcade and Attica runs all six coaches per run with an open-air gondola used by the United States Air Force. In addition to regular seasonal excursion services, the A&A also hold various events that can be read about on their website, such as their annual Maple Run (Sponsored by Charlotte House) which takes riders all the way to the mill at North Java, Murder Mysteries,Train Robberies and World War 2 weekends, which offer unique and interactive experiences. They also offer alcohol themed evening runs on certain weekends (Adults only, obviously.)There has also been a train for the Winterfest town celebration, a low mileage 20-30 minute run with the coaches to the Arcade Junction and back to the Depot. In addition to this, the A&A is usually always able to accommodate special Charter runs, such as the 2023 'Centercab Charter' which functioned as a send-off to the Centercabs retiring from freight with the arrival of RS3m #406/#114.

Over the years the A&A coaches have sported four distinct schemes- The iconic orange they wear today, a bare orange scheme with a red stripe near the roof in the 70's ("Redline"), a return to form in the 80's incorporating the large font with the "Redline" scheme, and an era where the coaches were painted a pseudo Pullman Green, due to A&A's involvement in a movie and public opinion.

In many ways, this can be viewed as either a throwback to Arcade's original two combine coaches: 301 and 302; which were kept green all the way from inception to passenger service abandonment, or their original heritage of being Pullman green on the DL&W. After the green started to fade from wear and tear, it was decided to go back to the orange that adorned the coaches in the 60's. The font, however, is slightly different today.

The gondola has only had a handful of variations through the years but obtained a roof in the mid-2000s to shield folks from rain and/or soot on the return trip to Arcade. Prior to the 'roof era' it appeared with a USAF logo and lettering in its first few years, then a mix of bare wood and black paint; orange in the 70's with black metal ends, and back to bare/black. The railing trim has been both yellow and orange through the years.

Locomotive roster

 * Prior to dieselization, the A&A used a variety of steam locomotives numbered 1 through 8.A&ARR No. 7, a 2-6-0.jpg.]]A&A No. 6, a 4-6-0.jpg, the last steamer in service on line.]] When #111 arrived, #6 was officially retired. Due to the Ann Arbor railroad already using the reporting mark AARR, it did cause occasional confusion. ARA was chosen as the new Interchange mark in 1967, with the acquisition of the #400 series boxcars. In the steam era, Arcade's equipment all had "A&ARR" lettering. Due to space at the engine house, only two or three steam engines were ever active at the same time.
 * Arcade & Attica 14: (4-6-0) - Built in February 1917 by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania; currently in storage as it requires a very expensive overhaul to comply with federal safety standards. No. 14 was acquired by the railroad in 1963 from the Escanaba & Lake Superior railroad, one year after #18 was acquired. ARA 14.jpg quickly became an icon and stole the show from #18, but only ran until 1988. Since then it has been safely stored outside of the elements but has had parts such as its headlamp and pilot taken for use on #18. As a matter of fact, #18 has been using #14's tender since its retirement. The original #14 tender was sold to a museum for use as static display behind a similar B&O steam engine. Arcade & Attica had a replica built, which now awaits #18 to return to service. There is consideration made for the future, however. Several years ago the railroad purchased the tender of Gettysburg Railroad 76 and has cited interest in using that behind either #14 or #18, so both engines could both be in service at the same time, should they ever have the funding to do so.   Arcade & Attica steam locomotive.jpg
 * Arcade & Attica 18: (2-8-0) - Built in 1920 American Locomotive Company at its 'Cooke Works' in Paterson, New Jersey. Currently out of service undergoing a full rebuild, the running gear and boiler both having been delivered back to Arcade in 2022 and 2023 respectively. Currently #18 is located in Arcade once again, and work is being done on it daily. Arcade Attica 18 2017 100 Year.jpg The cab and tender can be seen outside of the shop, while the in-progress locomotive portion remains out of the elements inside the shop. This locomotive was acquired in 1962 from the Boyne City Railroad in Michigan. Due to lower water capacity and a crack in the frame, #18's original tender now sits in the weeds off next to the shed, rusted away.14's tender was also modified after 1988 to have even more water capacity to help #18 with its excursions.
 * Arcade & Attica 110: (GE 44-ton switcher) - Built in 1941 by General Electric as one of the first 13 44ton units, at its Erie, Pennsylvania plant, #110 is considered to have 'dieselized' the A&A single-handedly; now on static display in the municipal parking lot across Main Street from the Arcade station. This unit was featured in a General Electric advertisement promoting the locomotive design, and was delivered in the now iconic "Classic Arcade" paint scheme. After the wreck of 1947,it returned from overhaul with a black-colored skirt under the cab (as opposed to the factory orange).Arcade & Attica 110 wreck.jpg Around 1967 110 was repainted alongside 111 into a solid black/orange scheme that fans of the railroad have dubbed "CrewCut".The only formal mention of the scheme with internal paperwork refers to it as "Simple Scheme" After the acquisition of #112 in 1988, it was put into storage and sat until being turned into the aforementioned display around 2008. #110's Nathan M5 horn was moved to #112 (Out of service).

 * Arcade & Attica 111: (GE 44-ton switcher) - Built in 1947 by General Electric at its Erie, Pennsylvania plant, #111 completed the job, and the last A&A steamer (#6) was scrapped.From around 1967 to 2002 #111 was in the solid orange/black "CrewCut" paint scheme, however was repainted back into "Classic Arcade" in 2002.ARA Mixed Freight.jpg 2017 it was repainted with the new logo and made a handful of appearances from 2017 to 2018, the unit now sits outside of the shops with an uncertain future. Upon #113's acquisition in 2015, #111's Nathan M5 horn was transferred to #113 (Cosmetically Restored, Retired).
 * Arcade & Attica 112: (GE 65-ton switcher) - Built in 1945 by General Electric at its Erie, Pennsylvania, plant, for the United States Navy. After used in the Navy 112 went out to Colorado for switching work before being acquired by the ARA in 1988. Originally arriving in a yellow/red livery with "City of Colorado Springs", the lettering was switched over to large "ARCADE" and "ATTICA" text on each hood, respectively. This scheme is referred to as the "Sunflower" scheme.Arcade and Attica 112 in Sunflower.jpg#112 was repainted into "Classic Arcade" paint in 2002, and has remained in that paint since. As of 2023 this unit has been retired to passenger excursion use only, typically in the Christmas season when ARA runs two trains simultaneously. Some iconic notes to look for when identifying #112 is the roof location of the M5 horn (which was on the front hood early after its 2002 repaint, but moved some point after),and the non-functional roof flasher-light.

 * Arcade & Attica 113: (GE 50-ton switcher shell with weighted trucks, making 113 an industrial 80 tonner) - Built in 1959 by General Electric at its Erie, Pennsylvania, plant. This locomotive operated at the Consolidated Edison plant on Staten Island before being acquired by the ARA in 2014, relegating aging #111 to backup duties for freight and passenger trains. It arrived from Staten Island in a bold Industrial Yellow livery, and was repainted into "Classic Arcade" in 2017 as part of the 100 year celebrations. As of 2023,unless used for extremely light loads #113 is retired from freight, but will occasionally replace #112 in the "freight shove" role while taking empties back to Arcade Junction.

 * Arcade & Attica #114- Former Western New York & Pennsylvania Railroad 406 (ALCO RS-3m) - purchased in 2023 to replace the center cab locomotives. This locomotive has officially taken over freight duties,leaving the Centercabs with Excursion service. 406 was originally built for the Delaware & Hudson Railroad as RS3 #4112, until it was modified in the 70's by MK to become a "chop-nose" RS3m, also nicknamed a "Clubfoot". It was renumbered to #1976 and given a bicentennial paint job, which it held through its tenure on its next railroad, the Tioga Central,although having now left the D&H numbered as 506, not 1976. From the Tioga Central, it was sold to Western New York & Pennsylvania who renumbered it #406, and repainted it in 2017 into their yellow/black livery. It arrived in 2023 running under its own power from Olean to Machias to Arcade, swapping WNYP and B&P crews at Machias. This is the second Alco Diesel to call Arcade home, as during the 90's the WNYRHS stored South Buffalo #77 in Arcade, though it didn't see any active service. As of October 5, 2023 the acquisition of this diesel has facilitated an addition to the shop structure, extending the center and right bays to contain the Alco, as well as offer space for shopping the coaches. Around this same time, the locomotive was renumbered to #114 officially, and sports a unique A&A crest which has never been used on equipment before.

Coaches

 * Combine #301
 * Combine #302
 * Combine #305 (In use) "Bar Car"

 * Combine #306 (In use)

 * Coach #307 (In use)

 * Coach #308 (Scrapped 1996)
 * Combine #309 (In use)

 * Coach #310 (Scrapped 1985)

 * Coach #311 (In use)

 * Coach #312 (In use)

All of Arcade's tourist era cars are Ex Delaware, Lackawanna & Western "Boonton" style coaches.

Cabooses

 * Caboose #303 (Ex Susquehanna & New York) - This caboose was the first of the two iconic cabooses to be purchased by the A&A. Eventually it was retired and sold into private ownership, but was eventually put on display in Downtown Arcade. It was painted red until 2023 when it had extensive wood replacements and now is in the process of being repainted into true Revenue color: Orange!
 * Caboose #304 (Ex Erie) - 304 was the second caboose to be purchased by the railroad, and for a time had its cupola removed. It was moved next to the Little Red Caboose Ice cream shop in Arcade and has been restored, and painted red in homage to its Erie roots. A similar but not exact cupola has been reconstructed. Just like 303, it was always orange until its last few years where it was sold off.

Freight Cars

 * Series #100 Reefers - The #100 series reefers were a series of cars used in the steam era for interchange service, but later in life they were used to distribute milk and cream along the line from Attica to Arcade. These were yellow in color and lettering varied by car. Several photos exist of #106 and #108 in public railroad archive websites, such as the one shown below-

Some of these boxcars featured the additional text "Serving Arcade Industry", but not all. Likewise, some of these had full ladders and some were modernized, only having half ladders. #510 is now restored and on display at the Williamsville depot, and was also one of two #500 series involved in a fire at Drakes' Feed, where they were stored at the time. Luckily, only cosmetic damage occurred to both boxcars.
 * Series #400 Boxcars (Ex B&O) - This has become arguably the most iconic of the Arcade boxcars, as one is on display with ARA #110 in Downtown Arcade, and 8 remain in the Western New York area. Two are restored to B&O livery at the Orchard Park depot, one is at Curriers, two are off the line at Reisdorf's, and two more are used for storage at the Arcade shops, plus the aforementioned one (#411) included in the downtown Arcade display. These were considered old and outdated when purchased in 1967, and were quickly replaced with the #500 series, but they did make their way across the states. The true in service livery is different then the display #411, being more red-orange and having lettering more spaced out in a different font.
 * Series #500 Boxcars (Leased) - (#501-#509) What is probably the most iconic of the A&A boxcars for anyone following the railroad in the 70's or familiar with model train releases of A&A, these were the "Creamsicle" cars, which featured a colorful orange and white scheme joined with a large "ARA Serving Arcade Industry" on either side. These were PS-1 style boxcars leased from Morrison Supply Company and were returned once Borden closed, before their lease actually expired. It is unclear if any actually survive.
 * Series #500 Boxcars (Ex-NH) - (#510-#523) Purchased outright by the railroad, the later #500 series boxcars were used in tandem with the leased boxcars to haul product from Borden around the country. These cars were a light powder blue, however several photos do depict the color much darker due to shadows. These cars were disliked by Borden staff by comparison to the earlier PS-1 types, as the doors were much narrower. A handful of these boxcars do survive, and one of significance (#522) was turned into a MoW flatbed with a tool chest in the 70's, before having said tool chest removed and being turned into a full flatcar. #522 was scrapped around 2009, however a cut out section from the original modification survives as a forklift shed next to the shops.Some lettering can still be made out in 2023.

Visitors
Over the years, the Arcade & Attica has been a host to several railcars and locomotives of interest, some of which still exist

 * PRR Doodlebug #4666- This unit was privately owned and stored in Arcade, with caboose 303 and the snowplow, where the Arcade Fire Hall is today. It is now restored on the Allentown & Auburn, and was running in 2016.

 * Viscose 0-4-0 #6 - Viscose #6 was brought out to Arcade in the 2008 and 2009 seasons for "Railfan days", being paired with #18 for doubleheader runs and doing some solo trips around the Arcade area.
 * South Buffalo #77 - South Buffalo #77 was stored in Arcade by the WNYRHS in the 90's, though it was never activated and used. This locomotive steals the title of being the "First Alco Diesel in Arcade" from ARA #114.

 * "Ed Lewis' Baggage Car" Not a terrible lot is remembered about this 6-axle baggage car, but it was owned by Edward Lewis, and was the namesake for his publishing company "The Baggage Car". From what is remembered, it was placed next to the Arcade engine sheds, and was planned to be filled with railroad memorabilia. Several photos do exist in private collections, showing it at the Park St freight house siding and also in front of the shop. It is unclear how long it remained in Arcade,and just as unclear, is its heritage, presumed to be either ex B&O or C&O.
 * "The Warwick" - Was a 6-axle coach, ex NYO&W that was stored in Arcade, before the railroad acquired Dunlop Tire fireless cooker #1 (now on display at Curriers depot). It was then called the "Grover Cleveland car", touting its fame as a presidential Honeymoon car. The coach was purchased after initial storage, and moved behind M&T bank, opposite side of the #110 display is now (on the old coal track). It arrived in O&W colors, but was repainted into a very nice green with gold/yellow trim and lettering. That siding was eventually removed to make way for more downtown parking, and it was moved behind the KR Wilson building, next to the coach runaround. The coach was actually moved back to the shop every off season, but eventually was left by KR Wilson,the track switch having been removed. The coach fell victim to vandalism after many decades of being in Arcade, and by 2004 it was moved from A&A and began being restored in a museum in Franklin, NY, where it resides today. The claims of it being Cleveland's honeymoon car have fallen to much speculation over the years, as the cars actual build date was 1889 and the aforementioned president was married in 1886. It appears he may have used the car on a simple trip on the NYO&W, but the true facts, and origin of it being his honeymoon car have been lost to history. Interestingly enough, there are some internal documents that refer to using it for "Directors Specials", if only for a few instances. This is referenced on the Souvenir vinyl record jacket, wherein it mentions said Directors Special. According to the jacket, the Warwick was pulled by #18 while #14 handled the regular train for that day.

 * rie Caboose- Stored in Arcade alongside SB #77 by WNYRHS, this caboose could be found in Arcade in the 90's, either on the "plow track" in front of #14's bay, or later paired with #77 down by Blue Seal at the interchange.

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This page, linked from current events, appears neither to be neutral (the article spends much more time talking about the revenge attack rather than describing) nor up-to-date - the information on current events can't be found here. Anyone know enough to do an update? Pcb21| Pete 14:49, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Noam Chomsky?

 * I find it interesting that people who call him "a complete loon" and claim he's been "discredited" consistently fail to provide the slightest shred of evidence or cite any sources to back up their claims. Greg sg (talk) 00:03, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 * If you want to complain about Chomsky, start with the fact that he has been extremely slow to acknowledge that the official about 9/11 can not be true and to this date has still failed to label it as the act treason it was. 24.11.186.64 (talk) 23:40, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Noam Chomsky is a widely known, respected scientist and political activist. His views, opinions and analysis are highly appreciated by a huge number of people around the globe. He has given talks and lectures on many major universities and world conferences. However, if he was not, his writings are still backed up by an overwhelming amount of sources, being his writings themselves an useful source of information for any research on recent historical and political events. And next time, perhaps you can sign so we can check your sources.--1052 14:34, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You can have your opinions about Chomsky, but keep in mind that most of his critics don't attack or discredit the facts he presents, only his character and viewpoint. Can you site any sources for him being "widely discredited"? Raharu00 16:12, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

the opening links
as i said in my edit summary i don't think they're appropriate. this article is to summarize the event, not to cite conspiracy and Noam Chomsky op-ed pieces. i may be willing to include the "CIA-Mossad" (though really, how cliche can you get) Berlin deal at the bottom, but it should first be analyzed (if it's possible -- i'm guessing it's pretty damned obscure) to see if it has any verifiable merit oustide of "this guy said this." J. Parker Stone 22:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

100 people dead after US airstrikes in Libya
The BBC reported 100 deaths

What is your source for only 15 deaths? Raharu00 17:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The other article on this topic writes currently "It was claimed that the air strike killed at least 40 people in Libya" - but that is without source as well. I was reading Louise Richardson's /What terrorists want/ (2006). Strangely, she seems to echo the BBC statement (" At least 100 people ... died") - but also without giving a source (even though she is a Harvard academic). Perhaps a more accurate number can be found in the agreement of August 14, 2008 between the US en Lybia, considering that compensates for the Libyan victims of the 1986 US bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi as well. Or maybe the number is a big secret. :) --Kornelis (talk) 10:17, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Some Sources to Consider...
At the risk of being "controversial," the article does seem to favor both the Reagan Admin. & the State Department's official line on the matter of the bombing despite a significant amount of material that suggests otherwise.

For example, no conclusive evidence had been given by US officials prior to the bombing by their own admission. As Gerald M. Boyd noted ("U.S. Sees Methods Of Libya In Attack," New York Times, April 6, 1986, p. 1): "Administration counterterrorism officials said there was 'strong circumstantial evidence' linking Libya to the bombing," (my italics) and "a 'consensus' within the Administration that the nightclub attack was part of a pattern of activity directed against Americans and American installations in which Colonel Qaddafi has been responsible."

Furthermore, the Associated Press on April 14th 1986, a mere half-hour before the US attacks on Libya began, published the following: "[T]he Allied military command [in West Berlin] reported no developments in the investigation of the disco bombing...U.S. and West German officials have said Libya -- possibly through its embassy in Communist-ruled East Berlin -- is suspected of involvement in the bombing of the La Belle night-club." Again, no evidence was offered at the time by either U.S. or German investigators, although Larry Speakes, the Reagan administration's spokesman, continued to assert the next day that US intelligence was "able to, in the last several days...tie Qaddafi in very directly to the Berlin disco bombing which resulted in the death of an American citizen" (Gerald M. Boyd, "Genesis of a Decision: How the President Approved Retaliatory Strikes," New York Times, April 15, 1986, p. A11)

In fact, a year after the US attack, the head of the West German investigation committee, Manfred Ganschow, maintained that no evidence had been found to support the Libyan connection. He said, "I have no more evidence that Libya was connected to the bombing than I had when you first called me two days after the act. Which is none" (Andrew Cockburn, "Sixty Seconds Over Tripoli," Playboy, May 1987, pp. 130f). Furthermore, then Chancellor of Germany Helmut Kohl had been cited by US officials as being in support of the Libyan assault when, in fact, he was not: "A senior adviser to the Chancellor [of West Germany] said Mr. Kohl was "furious" when he read that Reagan administration officials had described him as willing to condone military action against Libya in private while publicly opposing such a step. "He said nothing like this," the adviser insisted. . . .  [Italian Prime Minister Bettino] Craxi's aides, too, were shocked to hear him described by Washington officials as having privately endorsed the American raid" (James M. Markham, "Libya Raids: Behind Allies' Reactions," New York Times, April 25, 1986, p. A6).

Of particular interest may be Bill Schaap's "The Endless Campaign: Disinforming the World on Libya," Covert Action Information Bulletin, No. 30, Summer 1988, pp. 70-71, in which he says: "Not only was there no evidence of Libyan involvement, there was considerable evidence to the contrary. Every Western European government except Mrs. Thatcher's -- which would support President Reagan if he said the sun rose in the west -- expressed skepticism, as did the West Berlin police authorities in charge of the investigation. In fact, U.S. Ambassador Burt, Secretary of State Shultz, and Secretary of Defense Weinberger all lied to bolster the story that the U.S. had clear proof of Libyan involvement.  They said that the U.S. evidence -- intercepts of coded messages between Libyan People's Bureaus -- was so compelling that prior to the bombing U.S. military police in West Berlin had been put on the alert and had been clearing bars of customers that evening. Weinberger went so far as to say that the M.P.s were just fifteen minutes late to save the people at the LaBelle discotheque. In fact, this was a complete fabrication. As the Deputy Chief of West Berlin's military police told Bower, there was no alert, no one was going around clearing bars, and it would not have made any sense in the first place, since the intercepts made no mention of specific targets."

Rather, the US attack on Libya met with widespread global resistance: "Spain's major newspaper, the independent El Pais, condemned the raid, stating: 'The military action of the United States is not only an offense against international law and a grave threat to peace in the Mediterranean, but a mockery of its European allies, who did not find motives for economic sanctions against Libya in a meeting Monday, despite being previously and unsuccessfully pressured to adopt sanctions.'"

"The conservative South China Morning Post in Hong Kong wrote that "President Reagan's cure for the 'mad dog of the Middle East' may prove more lethal than the disease," and his action "may also have lit the fuse to a wider conflagration in the Middle East." In Mexico City, El Universal wrote that the U.S. "has no right to set itself up as the defender of world freedom," urging recourse to legal means through the United Nations." (Noam Chomsky, Pirates and Emperors: International Terrorism in the Real World, Boston: South End, 1991, pp. 131-132)

TO THE INDIVIDUAL WHO FEELS THAT CHOMSKY IS NOT A CREDIBLE SOURCE, I DEFER TO A 2001 SURVEY CONDUCTED BY THE INSTITUTE FOR SCIENTIFIC INFORMATION WHICH IDENTIFIES ONLY MARX, LENIN, SHAKESPEARE, ARISTOTLE, THE BIBLE, PLATO, AND FREUD AS BEING MORE WIDELY QUOTED IN ACADEMIC JOURNALS THAN CHOMSKY, WHICH SUGGESTS TO ME THAT HE IS NOT SO "WIDELY DISCREDITED" AMONGST SCHOLARS AS SOME HAVE SUGGESTED.

To continue, there have been alternative theories suggested for the Berlin bombing (which, I feel, should at least be mentioned in the article). Most notable of them was the Syrian/Jordanian connection: (1) Robert J. McCartney, "Clues Hint Syrian Link In '86 Berlin Bombing," Washington Post, January 11, 1988, p. A13 (2) James M. Markham, "Suspect Reportedly Asserts Syria Directed Bombing At A Berlin Club," New York Times, May 7, 1986, p. A1 (3) Roberto Suro, "New Data Linked to Terror Plots," New York Times, July 3, 1986, p. B11.

Also, as a point of interest, while the German judge did, in fact, rule in the favor of the US's summary verdict, he did criticize both the US and German intelligence for their failures at presenting viable "intelligence" to support the Libyan claim (Steven Erlanger, "4 Guilty in Fatal 1986 Berlin Disco Bombing Linked to Libya," New York Times, November 14, 2001, p. A7).

I hope these may be prove useful to future amendations. (Ajm323 01:55, 27 February 2007 (UTC))

Inappropriate category
The category Category:Palestinian terrorist incidents in Europe is inappropriate for two reasons. First Abu Nidal, while Palestinian, is not connected or motivated by the Palestinian national struggle. He is a freelance terrorist and it is improper to associate his acts with Palestinians in general. Second, the connection between this attack and Abu Nidal appears quite tenuous itself. I am removing the category from the article. --Abnn 04:19, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Contacts with East Berlin
US evidence against Libya for this 1986 incident (for which the US took revenge by means of Operation El Dorado Canyon) is based mainly upon alleged intercepts of communications between Tripoli and its embassy in East Berlin. What is generally under-reported is the link between the Lockerbie bombing "co-conspirator" Edwin Bollier's Radio North Sea International and Alternative theories of the bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. Bollier was alleged to have been sending coded messages to the GDR early in the 1970s.

It was reported in 2004 that Libya took revenge for the April 1986 US bombing of Tripoli and Benghazi by hijacking Pan Am Flight 73 in September 1986. However, Libya's role in the 1988 Lockerbie bombing has never been fully accepted. Now that the Libyan convicted of the Lockerbie bombing has been granted leave to appeal (for a second time) against his conviction, we may have to overhaul the received wisdom concerning the La Belle discotheque bombing. Phase4 21:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I'm sure this is useful information for the Pan Am 103 case. But where and how, precisely, does this affect LaBelle? Your Guardian source mentions nothing at all about any possible connection and, frankly, neither do you. I'm all for overhauling received wisdom, but just because one court case may be flawed doesn't imply that all court cases are. Where ist the overlap? Bollier sending coded messages into the GDR 15 years before this case? Something else? Please elaborate. Azate 10:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

 * Perhaps I was a bit premature in raising this issue: let's see how the Lockerbie appeal goes. If it turns out that Libya was not responsible, then there are likely to be repercussions upon a number of other incidents that were blamed on Libya, including the La Belle bombing.Phase4 12:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Libya? Errr.
Wasnt it "later" discovered that it was a RAF bombing, and that Libyans and such had nothing to do with it. (Americans prolly knew this all along, just used it as a excuse.) End of unsigned contribution

During a 1993 visit to Germany I read a SPIEGEL magazine where former STASI officers admitted to the bombing. I do not remember exactly when it was or what their names were.

Campaigning against Gaddafi went back over many years. Firstly, he supported terroorists and was anti-Israel. Secondly, Lybian oil was government owned and the big privately owned oil companies did not get a look in. This was communism and had to be fought. West Germany bought Lybian oil against the 'wishes' of the anti-communism forces because Lybian oil had a low sulfur content - German air and soil pollution was bad enough as it was withouty buying high sulfur oil from the privately owned conglomerates.

What prompted the bombing of this disco at that point in time can only be explained by the STASI, or possibly former KGB who cooperated with the STASI. With the Lybian position being so 'fragile', attracting attention through a bombing makes no sense. 121.209.48.27 (talk) 04:55, 23 July 2010 (UTC)  121.209.48.27 (talk) 04:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Possibly Syria
Back when WaPo was actually good: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1988/01/11/clues-hint-syrian-link-in-86-berlin-bombing/

''The new clues have come to light as West Berlin investigators for the first time have identified the person they believe planted the bomb at the crowded discotheque, a 27-year-old West German woman. U.S. officials said the revelations could cast doubt on the Reagan administration's contention that Libya ordered the bombing. U.S. warplanes raided Libya on April 15, 1986, in retaliation for the bombing 10 days earlier of the La Belle discotheque in which two American servicemen and a Turkish woman were killed and 204 people were injured. ... The principal Syrian suspect, Air Force intelligence Lt. Col. Haithem Saeed, also was identified as having played a major role in helping Hasi's brother, Nezar Hindawi, plan an unsuccessful attempt to blow up an Israeli airliner in London in April 1986. "We know that Mrs. Endrigkeit apparently acted at Hasi's orders" in various matters, spokesman Kaehne said. There were "indications" that she had acted on his orders in allegedly planting the La Belle bomb, he said.''

There is also an Adam Curtis production that touches on this affair ("Hypernormalization") at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fny99f8amM&t=3318

88.207.143.50 (talk) 15:29, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Gladio / False Flag Operation
Given that this bombing occurred during the of the CIA/MI6/NATO lead false flag campaign of terror called Operation Gladio and that it is know very well established that the pretext for Libyan involvement in Pam Am 103 was substantially fabricate, it is unacceptable to take this bombing at face value. In short, a "conspiracy theory" section in needed to considered what actually happened in terms of western intelligence agencies instigating it. 24.11.186.64 (talk) 23:38, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Sources? WhisperToMe (talk) 00:16, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Need to update this article based on following reliable source
Hannity interview with Oliver North

According to this interview with Oliver North (who was involved, according to the interview, in planning the retaliatory Bombing of Libya), following details need to be updated in current article:
 * It was 27 Americans that were killed in the Berlin discotheque bombing (not 2, as article states)
 * Gaddafi's daughter did not die, as he claimed, it was not his daughter
 * Bombing of Libya article needs to be updated to clarify that Oliver North had such a role in planning it, that Gaddafi placed a price on North's head. Also, Oliver North article needs to be updated to say same thing; currently it doesn't mention that North had any role, or anything about Gaddafi attempting to kill North and his family. "Lt. Colonel Oliver North who was involved in the planning of America's 1986 airstrikes against Libya and who had a hit put on him by Colonel Qaddafi himself." Jimhoward72 (talk) 22:38, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

 * Just to state the obvious about credibility, without asserting the veracity of any of these claims: Oliver North is a convicted felon whose crimes included lying to a congressional inquiry and Sean Hannity is the host if a FOX tabloid entertainment program with a long record of promoting falsehoods and fabrications. Greg sg (talk)

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Dmitry Tolstoy

Count Dmitry Andreyevich Tolstoy (Дми́трий Андре́евич Толсто́й; 13 March 1823, Moscow – 7 May 1889, Saint Petersburg) was a Russian politician and a member of the State Council of Imperial Russia (1866). He belonged to the comital branch of the Tolstoy family.

Career
Tolstoy graduated from the Tsarskoye Selo Lyceum in 1843. He held a managing position at the Ministry of the Navy beginning in 1853. Tolstoy was an Ober-Procurator of the Holy Synod in 1865–1880, simultaneously holding a post of the Minister of National Enlightenment in 1866–1880.

In 1882–1889, Tolstoy was the interior minister and Chief of Gendarmerie. He is considered one of the pillars of the political reaction in the 1880s and supporter of the strong authority. Tolstoy's activities were aimed at backing the nobility, regulating peasantry's modus vivendi, and spreading his administration's influence over local authorities. On Tolstoy's initiative, they issued the so-called "Temporary regulations" in 1882, which limited the freedom of press to an even greater extent. Tolstoy, together with A. Pazukhin, outlined and prepared the so-called "counterreforms", which would become very unpopular in Russia. As one of the great counter reformers of the post Crimean period Tolstoy used his position as minister of education to promote study at university and secondary levels that would bolster Russia as a nation with honest people in power looking to maintain Orthodoxy and Autocracy: something in danger during Tolstoy's rule as the post Crimean period of reform amounted also to increasing rebellion and student dissent. Tolstoy did his best to educate a Russia, and moreover a Russian elite that would maintain Orthodoxy and Autocracy while being in mountable competition with the West. His focus was on consolidating his power over education while suppressing revolutionary attitudes by just censorship, etc.

Tolstoy was elected president of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences in 1882. He wrote a number of books on Russian history.

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In 1871, Tolstoy was in charge of the college reform, which would result in the prevalence of the classical education (included Latin and Greek languages and ancient literature, among other things).

Feminist activists Maria Trubnikova, Nadezhda Stasova, and Anna Filosofova began pushing, in 1867, for Russian universities to create courses for women. Demonstrating "considerable skill in rallying popular support", according to the historian Christine Johanson, the women wrote a carefully-worded petition to Tsar Alexander II. They gathered over 400 signatures among middle and upper-class women. However, there was widespread opposition to the education of women, particularly by Tolstoy. Tolstoy argued that women would abandon education after being married, and dismissed the signatories by stating that they were "sheep" merely following the latest fashion. He rejected the petition in late 1868, but allowed mixed-gender public lectures which women could attend, under pressure from the Tsar (then Alexander II). However, these were rapidly taken up, overwhelmingly by women.

The feminist trio also appealed to war minister Dmitry Milyutin, who agreed to host the courses after being persuaded by his wife, daughter, and Filosofova. Tolstoy countered by allowing the lectures at his own apartments, where he could monitor them. The political movement in favor of women's education continued to grow, and by October 1869, the Russian government permitted a limited set of courses for women on advanced subjects (including "chemistry, history, anatomy, zoology, and Russian literature"). Stasova organized these and recruited the professors to teach them; the courses began in January 1870. Attended by over 200 women, they became known as the Vladimirskii courses, after their host beginning in 1872, the Vladimir college.

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