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Soulmate

A soulmate is a person with whom one has a feeling of deep or natural affinity. This may involve similarity, love, a romantic or platonic relationship, comfort, intimacy, sexuality, sexual activity, spirituality, compatibility, and trust. The idea of soulmates is found in Judaism and Hinduism, but was popularized in the 19th-century Theosophy religion and in modern New Age philosophy.

Definition
In current usage, soulmate usually refers to a romantic or platonic partner, with the implication of an exclusive lifelong bond. It commonly holds the connotation of being the strongest bond with another person that one can achieve. People who believe in soulmates commonly accept that one will feel 'complete' once they have found their soulmate, as it is partially in the perceived definition that two souls are meant to unite. The term soulmate first appeared in the English language in a letter by Samuel Taylor Coleridge in 1822.

Judaism
The term soulmate may have initially been borrowed from the 16th century poem Yedid Nefesh. This poem became popular due to its customary weekly recital by traditional Jews during their final Shabbos/Shabbat meal, seudah shlishit, as a means of comfort during the day's waning moments. The poem opens as a declaration of love and connection to one's Creator, stating: "Yedid Nefesh, Av HaRachaman – My Soulmate, Father of Compassion." This poem was first published in Venice in 1588 in a book titled Sefer Charedim. Its composition is commonly attributed to that book's publisher, Rabbi Elazar ben Moshe Azikri (1533–1600). However – largely because this poem was missing from the original galleys containing Rabbi Azikri's own poems – others posit that it was composed by another of his contemporaries, Rabbi Israel ben Moses Najara and famed kabbalist Rabbi Moses ben Jacob Cordovero being the most commonly offered. Still others assert that this poem – and thereby this term – is far older, dating to the 11th century Rabbi Judah Halevi.

The Hebrew word Yedid, meaning close mate or dear friend, is first found in Deuteronomy, chapter 33, verse 12. The Hebrew word Nefesh, meaning soul, is first found in Genesis, chapter 2, verse 7. While this poem is known by its opening refrain, Yedid Nefesh/Soulmate, in the 18th century prayer book of Rabbi Jacob Emden, he records its official title as: "Song of Awakening of the Soul-Toward the Love of Blessed Hashem (the Name)" (translation from his original Hebrew).

In Judaism, bashert/beshert, which means destined or intended. This term can refer to any incident that is destined and particularly used for one's soulmate. According to the Talmud it is said that 40 days before a male child is formed, a voice from heaven announces whose daughter he is going to marry – literally a match made in heaven! Jewish mysticism speaks of husband and wife as half souls. It is also said that God takes the soul whose time has come for it to enter into this world, and separates it into two-halves, placing one half in the male and one half in the female. And when these two-halves meet again in matrimony, their original connection and love bond comes back. Baal Shem Tov once said, "From every human being there rises a light that reaches straight to heaven, and when two souls that are destined to be together find each other, the streams of light flow together and a single brighter light goes forth from that united being."

Lilith and Eve
In Jewish folklore, it is said that Adam had a wife called Lilith who was created from the dust of the ground just as he was. But she remained with him only a short time, because she insisted upon enjoying full equality with her husband. She derived her rights from their identical origin.

The woman destined to become the true companion of man, Eve was taken from Adam's body, for only when like is joined unto like the union is indissoluble. The creation of woman from man was possible because Adam originally had two faces, which were separated at the birth of Eve.

Cain and Abel
It is widely believed that before mankind multiplied, each baby boy was born with his soul-mate as his twin sister. Cain and Abel had their soulmates born with them. Rachel and Leah were known to be soul-mates of Jacob and Esau respectively.

King Solomon's Daughter
One of the less-known stories is about King Solomon who knew that one of his daughters was destined to marry a poor man. He didn't want that to happen and had her kept locked with servants in a palace with a tower in a forest. The story goes that her soulmate found himself carried to the tower by a bird of prey and they both fell in love. The story ended well as King Solomon realized that the young man was a scholar even though he wasn't rich.

Greek Mythology
It is said that humans were androgynous. In the Symposium, Plato has Aristophanes present the idea that humans originally had four arms, four legs and one head made of two faces; Zeus split these creatures in half, leaving each torn creature to search for its missing counterpart. The severed humans were a miserable lot, Aristophanes says."Each one longed for its other half, and so they would throw their arms about each other, weaving themselves together, wanting to grow together. Love is born into every human being; it calls back the halves of our original nature together; it tries to make one out of two and heal the wound of human nature. Each of us, then, is a ‘matching half’ of a human whole…and each of us is always seeking the half that matches him. When a person meets the half that is his very own," Aristophanes exclaims, "something wonderful happens: the two are struck from their senses by love, by a sense of belonging to one another, and by desire, and they don’t want to be separated from one another, not even for a moment. These are people who finish out their lives together and still cannot say what it is they want from one another.”

Hinduism
Hinduism tells a story about the origin of love which is similar to Judaism. It begins with a powerful being named Purusha, who lacked desires, fears, or any inclination to act because the universe was already perfect. Then, Brahma, the creator, used his divine sword to divide Purusha into two. As humans, we too are seeking unity, and love is the word we use for that search.

In yogic teachings, there's a belief in finding your "other half" or "twin flame". According to this view, humans have seven energy centers, with the lowest one being the sex center and the highest being the samadhi, a state of deep meditation. According to Osho, When the seven centers of a man are in tune and harmony with all the seven centers of a woman, then you have found the soulmate. When this alignment happens, there's a sense of complete unity and oneness. It's not just a coming together; it's a merging of two souls. They function as if they were one entity, almost like the idea that two bodies share one soul. Whenever it happens, absolute oneness is felt: unity, not union…Two persons utterly disappear into each other; There is not even a small, thin screen dividing them. There is no division at all. It is unio mystica.

Rama and Sita are seen as the perfect example of soul mates in Hindu mythology. The Ramayana, a key text in Hinduism, emphasizes the transformative power of love between couples. Its main theme revolves around the separation and eventual reunion of Rama and Sita. Rama's motivation to confront the evil Demon King Ravana and protect his kingdom doesn't stem from duty or divine commands. Instead, the driving force behind the story's actions is solely their deep love for each other.

Theosophy
According to the esoteric religious movement Theosophy, whose claims were modified by Edgar Cayce, God created androgynous souls—equally male and female. Later theories postulate that the souls split into separate genders, perhaps because they incurred karma while playing around on the Earth, or "separation from God." Over a number of reincarnations, each half seeks the other. When all karmic debt is purged, the two will fuse back together and return to the ultimate.

New Age
According to Mark L. Prophet and Elizabeth Clare Prophet, a soulmate is a separate entity with whom one has spent many lifetimes as a friend, lover, co-worker, or partner, and to whom one is usually drawn to fulfill a specific mission. They describe a soulmate as one of many potential spiritual brothers or sisters: "even though there may be a great attraction and bond between soulmates, fundamentally, in the ultimate sense, you could define it more as a brother/sister relationship, even though soulmates have great marriages and a great union of hearts." According to Mark Prophet: "A soulmate relationship has to do with the seat of the soul Chandra, that Chandra just above the base ... The connection is one of parallel and mutual evolution rather than origin."

Judaism
Judaism tells us that all those images of souls destined for the world stand before God in couples. Later, when they arrive in this world, the blessed Holy One matches these couples who are half-souls or twin flames. It is also believed that one needs to lead a good life to merit marrying their soul mate. Some common practices (segulah) of people looking for their soulmates

Prayer
It is believed that prayer from the heart helps find the bashert. Eliezer when looking for a bride for Isaac prayed that God would help him find the appointed one for Isaac. Leah whose bashert was Esau, upon discovering that he was a wicked man, prayed and got her destiny changed and married Jacob instead. Praying at the tombs of renowned spiritual leaders on a regular basis is also a common prayer practice. Reading the Old Testament book of Song of Songs and certain Psalms 31, 32, 70, 72 and 124 for 40 days is also an ancient practice.

Working on your character traits (Middot)
Though Judaism believes in beshert (destined one), destiny is influenced by free choice. If one does not work on their character traits or leads a wicked life, they forfeit their beshert to someone more deserving. It is a common practice to work on one's middot.

Shmiras Eiynayim (Guarding one's eyes)
It is said that Joseph merited to marry his bashert because he was careful not to let his eyes and imagination wander. His life of purity merited him marrying the one appointed for him. It is a practice among Orthodox Jews to not look at inappropriate things that would lead to lascivious thoughts or actions.

Charity (Tzedakah)
It is encouraged to perform tzedakah to find one's soulmate. Tzedakah can be giving money to the poor or can take other forms like offering your time and services to the less fortunate or people who need them. See Tzedakah

Criticism
Some psychologists state that believing that a soulmate exists specifically for a person is an unrealistic expectation.

Even though, Judaism and Hinduism have sources about the existence of soulmates, there are leaders who think otherwise.

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Yeon Gaesomun

Yeon Gaesomun (594–666) was a powerful military dictator in the waning days of the Goguryeo kingdom, which was one of the Three Kingdoms of ancient Korea. He is remembered for his successful resistance against Tang China under Emperor Taizong and his son Emperor Gaozong.

Traditional Korean histories from Joseon painted Yeon Gaesomun as a despotic leader, whose cruel policies and disobedience to his monarch led to the fall of Goguryeo. However, his achievements in defending Goguryeo against Chinese onslaughts have inspired early Korean nationalist historians, most notably the 19th-century Korean historian and intellectual Sin Chaeho, to term Yeon Gaesomun the greatest hero in Korean history. In popular culture Yeon Gaesomun is often remembered as an exceptional soldier-statesman without equal in Korean history.

Biography
Yeon Gaesomun was born into the influential and distinguished Yeon family as the first son of Yeon Taejo, "Magniji" (, a position equivalent to a modern era office of prime minister) of Goguryeo during the reigns of King Pyeongwon and King Yeongyang. His grandfather Yeon Ja-yu was also a prime minister.

Information about Yeon Gaesomun comes largely from the Samguk sagi's biographical accounts of King Yeongnyu, King Bojang, and Yeon Gaesomun himself, and tomb engravings and biographical accounts, from the New Book of Tang, dedicated to his sons Yeon Namsaeng and Yeon Namsan.

Tang Chinese historical records give Yeon Gaesomun's surname as Cheon ( in Chinese, meaning "water spring"), because Yeon ( in Chinese, meaning "riverhead") was the given name of Emperor Gaozu, the founding emperor of Tang, and thus subject to the naming taboo by Chinese tradition. Yeon Gaesomun is also sometimes referred to as Gaegeum. In the Nihon Shoki, he appears as Iri Kasumi. Since both Yeon Gaesomun and Iri Kasumi are transcriptions intending to approximate the phonetic value of the original pronunciation, his actual name can be reconstructed as "Eol Kasum".

Very little is known of Yeon Gaesomun's early days, until he became the Western Governor, where he oversaw the building of the Cheolli Jangseong, a network of military garrisons to defend Liaodong from Tang.

Yeon Gaesomun had at least three sons: (eldest to youngest) Yeon Namsaeng, Yeon Namgeon, and Yeon Namsan.

Overthrow of the throne
In the winter of 642, King Yeongnyu was apprehensive about Yeon Gaesomun and plotted with his other officials to kill him. When Yeon Gaesomun discovered the plot, he arranged a lavish banquet to celebrate his rise to the position of Eastern Governor to which one hundred of the opposing politicians of the nation were invited. Yeon Gaesomun ambushed and killed all one hundred politicians present, and then proceeded to the palace and murdered King Yeongnyu. According to traditional Chinese and Korean sources, Yeon Gaesomun's men dismembered the king's corpse and discarded it without proper ceremony.

After placing King Bojang ((r. 642–668 – undefined)),a nephew of King Yeongnyu, on the Goguryeo throne, Yeon Gaesomun appointed himself the "Dae Magniji" (generalissimo) and assumed absolute de facto control over Goguryeo affairs of state until his death around 666.

Yeon Gaesomun's coup d'état came as the culmination of a lengthy power struggle between those in the government who favored appeasement toward Tang China and those who advocated military confrontation; Yeon Gaesomun belonged to the hard-liners. Traditional Chinese and Korean historians assumed that Yeon Gaseomun's motive was simply his thirst for power, but many modern Korean historians assert that his motive was to make Goguryeo assume a tougher stance against Tang China, as opposed to King Yeongnyu who submitted to Tang for a peaceful diplomatic relationship. Yeon Gaesomun's role in the murder of King Yeongnyu was taken as the primary pretext for the failed Tang invasion of 645.

Wars with China
The series of wars between Goguryeo and Tang China comprise some of the most important events in the ancient history of Northeast Asia, leading to the Tang–Silla alliance, the ultimate demise of powerful Goguryeo, and the unification of the Korean Peninsula under Silla control. Yeon Gaesomun was a central protagonist in this series of conflicts, as well as its primary cause.

At the outset of his rule, Yeon Gaesomun took a brief conciliatory stance toward Tang China. For instance, he supported Taoism at the expense of Buddhism, and to this effect in 643, sent emissaries to the Tang court requesting Taoist sages, eight of whom were brought to Goguryeo. This gesture is considered by some historians as an effort to pacify Tang and buy time to prepare for the Tang invasion Yeon thought inevitable given his ambitions to annex Silla.

Relations with Tang deteriorated when Goguryeo launched new invasions of Silla. In 645, the first conflict of the Goguryeo–Tang War began and Emperor Taizong's noted military acumen enabled him to conquer a number of major Goguryeo border fortresses.

Eventually, however, Emperor Taizong's invasion was met with two major setbacks. First, his main army was stymied and bogged down for several months at Ansi Fortress due to the resistance of the celebrated commander Yang Manchun. Second, the elite marine force that he sent to take Pyongyang, Goguryeo's capital, was defeated by Yeon Gaesomun who, according to the Joseon Sanggosa, then immediately marched his legions to relieve Yang Manchun's forces at Ansi Fortress.

Emperor Taizong, caught between Yang Manchun's army in the front and Yeon Gaesomun's counter-attacking forces closing in from behind, as well as suffering from the harsh winter and dangerously low food supplies, was forced to retreat homeward. Before setting off, Emperor Taizong left behind 100 bolts of silk cloth out of respect to Yang Manchun. The retreat was difficult and many of his soldiers died. Emperor Taizong's campaign against Goguryeo was unsuccessful. However, he succeeded in inflicting heavy casualties on Goguryeo. Upon returning home, Emperor Taizong founded the Minzhong Temple, the oldest temple in Beijing, to commemorate his soldiers who died in Goguryeo. He invaded Goguryeo again in 647 and 648, but was defeated both times, and thus was unable to accomplish his ambition of conquering Goguryeo in his lifetime.

Conquering Goguryeo had been an obsession with Emperor Taizong, and after his death in 649, his son Emperor Gaozong continued his ambition. After the Tang-Silla alliance conquered Baekje, Emperor Gaozong invaded Goguryeo in 661 and 662. One of Yeon Gaesomun's greatest victories came in 662, when his forces defeated Tang general Pang Xiaotai (龐孝泰) and his Lingnan army at the Sasu River (, probably Botong River). Pang Xiaotai and all his 13 sons were killed in combat. Famed Tang general Su Dingfang, who was instrumental in conquering Baekje, was unable to overcome Pyongyang's defenses and was forced to withdraw due to harsh snowstorms. With increasing domestic turmoil in China, Tang was once again forced to retreat.

However, Goguryeo's population and economy were severely damaged due to the long years of continuous warfare. Yeon Gaesomun died in 666 of a natural cause, and Goguryeo was thrown into chaos and further weakened by a succession struggle among his sons and younger brother, with his eldest son defecting to Tang and his younger brother defecting to Silla. Tang mounted a fresh invasion in 667, aided by Silla and the defector Yeon Namsaeng, and was finally able to conquer Goguryeo in 668.

Death
The most likely date of Yeon Gaesomun's death is that recorded on the tomb stele of his eldest son Yeon Namsaeng on the twenty-fourth year of the reign of King Bojang (665). However, the Samguk sagi records the year as 666, and the Nihon Shoki gives the year as the twenty-third year of the reign of King Bojang (664).

Legends
According to a local Chinese legend in the 19th-century Funing County Annals : during a campaign, Emperor Taizong was scouting ahead of his army and was almost captured when he discovered Yeon Gaesomun's encampment and was recognized by the latter, but narrowly escaped by hiding in a decrepit well; later, Emperor Taizong had a pagoda erected near the location.

Historical depictions
Tang and Silla sources portrayed Yeon Gaesomun as a brutal and arrogant dictator who carried five swords at a time, and had men prostrate themselves so that he could use their backs to mount and dismount his horse.

In popular culture
Yeon Gaesomun sometimes appears as a door god in Taoist temples in partnership with the Tang general Xue Rengui. In some Chinese legends, Xue Rengui and Yeon Gaesomun are the reincarnations of the White Tiger's Star and Azure Dragon's Star, respectively.

Film and television

 * Portrayed by Jo Kyung-hwan in the 1992 KBS TV series Chronicles of the Three Kingdoms.
 * Portrayed by Lee Won-jong in the 2003 film Once Upon a Time in a Battlefield and its 2011 sequel Battlefield Heroes.
 * Portrayed by Yoo Dong-geun, Lee Tae-gon and Eun Won-jae in the 2006–2007 SBS TV series Yeon Gaesomun.
 * Portrayed by Kim Jin-tae in the 2006–2007 KBS TV series Dae Jo Yeong.
 * Portrayed by Ko In-beom in the 2011 MBC TV series Gyebaek.
 * Portrayed by Choi Dong-joon in the 2012–2013 KBS TV series The King's Dream.
 * Portrayed by Choi Min-soo in the 2013 KBS2 TV series The Blade and Petal.
 * Portrayed by Yu Oh-seong in the 2018 film The Great Battle.

Literature
Yeon Gaesomun (under the name Gai Suwen) appears in Peking opera as the archvillain of the famed Tang general Xue Rengui, who rescues Emperor Taizong from Yeon Gaesomun's pursuit.

Yeon Gaesomun appears in numerous classical Chinese literature about Xue Rengui, who rescues Emperor Taizong from certain death at the hands of Yeon Gaesomun himself.

Age of Empires: World Domination, a mobile game produced in collaboration with series owner Microsoft, includes Yeon Gaesomun as a selectable hero of the Korean civilization.

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Definitions for Soul mate from the web
Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary a person temperamentally suited to another

Encarta® World English Dictionary [North American Edition] somebody close to somebody else: somebody with whom somebody else naturally shares deep feelings and attitudes

The Wordsmyth English Dictionary a person, usu. of the opposite sex, with whom one has a strong intimate attachment based on shared interests, values, and the like.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language One of two persons compatible with each other in disposition, point of view, or sensitivity.

Infoplease Dictionary a person with whom one has a strong affinity.

WordNet 2.0 someone for whom you have a deep affinity

Ultralingua English Dictionaries Someone for whom one has a deep affinity

.RhymeZone someone for whom you have a deep affinity

AllWords.com Multi-Lingual Dictionary someone who shares the same feelings, thoughts, ideas, outlook, tastes, etc as someone else.

LookWAYup dictionary someone for whom you have a deep affinity.

Petersam 08:15, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Films with soul mate themes
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Internet Movie Data Base search plot for Soul Mate

DejaVu (1998) with Stephen Dillane and Victoria Foyt, directed by Henry Jaglom.

Possible topics to expand on
Modern Soulmate Theory - explaining soulmates using probabilities.

Classic Soulmate Theory - explaining soulmates versus work-it-out theory.

The Search for the Perfect Soulmate

Work-it-out - or 'love the one you're with'

Soulmate Calculator - A revolutionary analytical web-based tool using population statistics to find out the number of American singles you have to met to find a soulmate.

Criticism of Soul Mate Theories
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- Note of skepticism: This concept uses certain ideologies of the supernatural (such as reincarnation) which have no way of being tested. It also supposes conclusions that are not even a part of the borrowed ideologies, without noting the difference, such as that soulmates exist to "heal" or play "other important roles" in each other's lives. This is also, in itself, vague and meaningless. In what way are these supposed "soul mates" supposed to heal each other? And why? The logical fallacy Appeal to Emotion comes to mind.

- Note of skepticism: This "theory" is misleading and makes conclusions for the reader rather than simply explaining what the concept is. It does this by using words such as "unfortunate reality" and then by going on to speak of what that "unfortunate reality" is. Many new agers will describe certain situations in the light of their concepts and accept no other explanation, such as logical explanation.

- Note of skepticism:A concept, derived from fairy tales and bad hollywood movies, used as a justification for what would otherwise be called psychotic behavior. A common mantra when invoking said concept is "But (s)he is my soulmate!" Tears usually follow to add support to the statement and successfully end rational discussion about the wisdom of the relationship.

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Hey lighten up dude, nothing's perfect. -- (I can tell *you're* a virgin..;) 69.203.129.19 06:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

this article needs a re-write
I think that this article needs to either be greatly expanded/re-structured or even completely re-written. The esoteric stuff is nice and stuff (/irony), but I feel that this very important topic really needs to be covered from a scientifical/psychological point of view. I was really annoyed when reading it and very dissatisfied, and I would really appreciate if some expert on that topic is willing to make a start for a good article. I could try to re-write it myself if noone else is ready to do it but even though I have some knowledge of this topic, I wouldn't consider myself an expert on it, but I can make myself one if necessary, but it would be easier if someone more knowledgeable would be wanting to do it. Cryonic 12:16, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

 * You can't have a scientific debate about soul mates. This is because by definition, a soul is not physical (and represents the spiritual part of a living being). The term soul originates from Hindu Vedic scripture and maybe older than 10,000 years as a concept (in Sanskrit: Atman). By definition, spiritual energy can not be detected by physical science. You can debate scientific experiments designed to observe the function of different area's of the brain. Explaining this using an analogy: The mind is akin to a car. It has certain functions that limit its use. The driver whilst himself not part of the car, can express himself through the car, yet the car limits his capacity for expression. If you want a serious article about the soul, one needs to base the article on religion and spirituality, for that is where the expression originates. Any psychology that can be attributed to the brain or body also has nothing to do with a persons soul which is uneffected by the body/mind.86.4.59.203 00:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)Deva.

if you cant scientifically prove or disprove the existence of the soul then why are there reports out there of a body being weighed right before and right after the exact second of death and there being a differnece of mere grams? explain that one away and i will become a non-believer. yeah right. NOONE can make ME believe that souls dont exist. which brings my next point: how can someone whole-heartedly believe in the concept of soul but NOT the concept of soulmate? to me that's just ridiculous......(later on) ok i cited my 'report' just by googling 'weight of the soul' and got http://www.lostmag.com/issue1/soulsweight.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.254.109.48 (talk) 04:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

nice and fluffy
beautiful thoughts however, they are meant to be enjoyed over a glass of red wine at 4am. like faith and religion, these thoughts have merit, just not for those who think rationally on a regular basis. Tamiam3 06:32, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Scientific Soulmates?
Did somebody just pull that out of their asses? Cite, please. Metalrobot 22:55, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Multiple Soulmates
What about the possibility of multiple soulmates? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Osterczyk (talk • contribs) 17:54, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Tall glass of original research
Seriously, this article is in dire need of a complete overhaul. It's on my to-do list: For my own reference: http://marriage.about.com/cs/soulmates/a/soulmates.htm I might even hit up the library for this one.  Lara  ❤  Love  16:01, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Soulmate
Can anyone discribe how it feels to encounter a soulmate? i feel i have found mine... every now and then He an I connect without words, I love him and he loves me we both know that. altho we are not together. there is this feeling, its so deap... not lust... not nerves... its more like satisfaction without being satisfied.. How do we talk about this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.177.113.40 (talk) 04:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
 * This isn't a talk forum, it's for discussion on improving the article. But I'll respond on your talk page. There's a link at the top of your page that says "my talk", click that.  Lara  ❤  Love  06:06, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Written by a 14 year old girl?
This article is at least 2/3 vomit. The only relevant (or even meaningful) part is the 'concepts' section. "someone you love, and would do anything for, and someone who loves you, and would do anything for you"? This is an encyclopaedia, not a teenage diary. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.251.160 (talk) 00:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The Picture?
What's with the picture. Horray for James Ososki, but his poorly made photoshop love letter doesn't need to be the main display for this section.

Teldumor (talk) 08:19, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I've replaced it with a more appropriate image and table. --Polylerus (talk) 19:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

This whole entry need some serious editing.
Isn't there anyone who could clean this up?

People who have no clue what "new age" even is, should not be defining it, especially not in an entry that isn't even about "new age".

This needs some serious editing by people who actually have some idea what they are talking about.

Why bother editing a section on wiki that you know nothing about?

There is no such things as "New Age Religion" so I removed a reference to it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.184.146.227 (talk) 01:26, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

 * "Why bother editing a section on wiki that you know nothing about?"
 * That is the normal Wikipedia process, especially with contentious and "esoteric" subjects. ninety-nine percent of Wikipedia editors write about subjects they do not understand but are sure they are an authority regardless of that. I am a Chartered Engineer with Degrees in Engineering and materials science and technology, who is a Healer with "higher sense perception" as Barbara Brennan refers to it and a discarnate Soulmate, in the true sense, but what do I know compared with anonymous Wikipedia editors afraid to declare themselves? RichardKingCEng (talk) 08:14, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

To the user, who wrote about New Age"there is no such things ..." Yes, thank you. Well done to deleting these verbal garbage. Me has wondered myself about these indiscriminately term-bowling, here in coherence to the definition what a soul and "its connections" could be. It sounding as had religion & cults rented the term 'soul'. Atheists have got doubts in one godness, but not necessarily in the existence of an unexplainable energy. There is also to mention, that since "new ages" as real meant now, seriously scientists are trying to building a bridge between quantum-physics and phenomena, which religions like to calling soul. The term 'soul' oneself is just religious coined, because churches and co. have used it too long. And what concerns New Age ... with such terms will associated all, what has begun with Yuppies and ended with attractions for 'spirit teachers' like Baghwan (or the Mun-Sect). And also is New Age a wide-spread a further term for an era in art, fashion and lifestyle. Whatever here is to associating with ... the term "soul" it isn't, yes absolutely right.

And to RichardKing: "ninety-nine percent of Wikipedia editors write about subjects they do not understand but are sure they are an authority regardless of that." What's got your self-description to do with the mentioned fact of the fore-author, that you tend to put a term into a corner, in which it isn't to categorise? "Soulmate" & "New Age" is of their individual definition such a perfect combination like Marilyn Manson & the pope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.235.225.146 (talk) 15:19, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Someone who cowers in anonymity is not deserving of an explanation; quite apart from the above reading close to gibberish anyway, which renders it unanswerable. RichardKingCEng (talk) 18:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, me hasn't known the netiquette for nickname-elitists. Your opinion is that someone which nickname you can spell, is a true revelation and open book to you. Aaaah, fine that must been new influences of 'New Age' :) P.S. The article-definition itself is too much worth for mine as to continue a discussion with someone who can not differentiate between one of the oldest terms in the world  and 'New Age' (if you want proof the fact, email maybe to the Dalai Lama and let tell you, since how much thousand of years in Asia is believed on the 'stuff' whose generally description is 'soul' and not 'esoteric trend')

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.235.252.17 (talk) 13:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit notice debate
The edit notice for this page is currently subject to a deletion debate. The edit notice is the message that appears just over the edit box whenever the page itself is in edit mode. If you love this notice, hate it, or just would like to comment on it's existance, please come and join in the debate. - TexasAndroid (talk) 13:52, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Using tsl.org as a source
This site fails WP:RS, WP:SPAM, WP:ELNO and WP:SPS as it is a promotional website for Elizabeth Clare Prophet. The site promotes and sells her books, CD and courses. The site cannot be considered a reliable source for evidence and is not independent. It should not be used as a reference.—Ash (talk) 10:13, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

"Only Love Is Real" by Brian Weiss
I think this book has something important to say about soulmates. As Raymond Moody, author of "Life after Life" says, "this book makes you truly believe that we all really do have soulmates and that Only Love Is Real". Chalice Deathray (talk) 06:15, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Studies section needs proper referencing
The section uses referencing which makes it hard to track the books down, can someone look at this and try and fix it? IRWolfie- (talk) 13:18, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm actually going to remove the section, it has nothing to do with soulmates and more to do with physical attraction and was getting conclusions related to soulmates that was not present in the original sources. IRWolfie- (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

New Age
The lede mentions new age view, can someone knowledgeable add a section on it? IRWolfie- (talk) 20:25, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The article needs rewritten, but I have not been able to find any good scholarly sources. The image should either be moved to the lede or removed. All is One (talk) 20:30, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I'm not really sure what sections would make sense, maybe different religious opinions (since it's a religious concept and not scientific at all. The Roman Catholic position for example: http://www.catholic.net/index.php?option=dedestaca&id=1064 IRWolfie- (talk) 20:43, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * my reference isn't great, I'm digging for more. IRWolfie- (talk) 20:53, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * The subject seems like a concept. So, you could start with a basic lede to summarize; followed by an "Etymology" section; an "Historical usage" section; a section describing "Contemporary usage" of the term; a "Reception" section; and a "Usage in popular culture" section. The subject is not too broad; this has some potential of becoming a Good Article. All is One (talk) 23:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Archive setup request
Request setting up an archive for this talk page. All is One (talk) 15:17, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Add "Black Orpheus" to list of soulmate films?
Comment moved from body of the text, added by unknown person at an unknown time:

CONSIDER ADDING "BLACK ORPHEUS"  A retelling of the Orpheus and Eurydice myth, set during the time of the Carnaval in Rio de Janeiro. DIRECTED BY MARCEL CAMUS http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053146/

I have no opinion. Anyone?

Molly-in-md (talk) 14:11, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Pushing agenda
Is the section titled “Films with soulmate themes” a display of a social concept that Hollywood is trying to legitimize? Along with other behaviors such as divorce (1930s), alcoholism (1930s), tobacco smoking (1940s), gang membership (1950s), drug addiction (1970s), and other detrimental glamorizations, is Hollywood advancing the “soulmate” myth? If so, it will result in much disappointment and unhappiness, but may be financially successful at the box office.Lestrade (talk) 06:33, 17 December 2013 (UTC)Lestrade

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User talk:82.3.32.71

Nomination of Ohud Hospital for deletion
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Superheated steam

Superheated steam is steam at a temperature higher than its vaporization point at the absolute pressure where the temperature is measured.

Superheated steam can therefore cool (lose internal energy) by some amount, resulting in a lowering of its temperature without changing state (i.e., condensing) from a gas, to a mixture of saturated vapor and liquid. If unsaturated steam (a mixture which contains both water vapor and liquid water droplets) is heated at constant pressure, its temperature will also remain constant as the vapor quality (think dryness, or percent saturated vapor) increases towards 100%, and becomes dry (i.e., no saturated liquid) saturated steam. Continued heat input will then "super" heat the dry saturated steam. This will occur if saturated steam contacts a surface with a higher temperature.

Superheated steam and liquid water cannot coexist under thermodynamic equilibrium, as any additional heat simply evaporates more water and the steam will become saturated steam. However, this restriction may be violated temporarily in dynamic (non-equilibrium) situations. To produce superheated steam in a power plant or for processes (such as drying paper) the saturated steam drawn from a boiler is passed through a separate heating device (a superheater) which transfers additional heat to the steam by contact or by radiation.

Superheated steam is not suitable for sterilization. This is because the superheated steam is dry. Dry steam must reach much higher temperatures and the materials exposed for a longer time period to have the same effectiveness; or equal F0 kill value. Superheated steam is also not useful for heating; while it has more energy and can do more work than saturated steam, its heat content is much less useful. This is because superheated steam has the same heat transfer coefficient of air, making it an insulator - a poor conductor of heat. Saturated steam has a much higher wall heat transfer coefficient.

Slightly superheated steam may be used for antimicrobial disinfection of biofilms on hard surfaces.

Superheated steam's greatest value lies in its tremendous internal energy that can be used for kinetic reaction through mechanical expansion against turbine blades and reciprocating pistons, that produces rotary motion of a shaft. The value of superheated steam in these applications is its ability to release tremendous quantities of internal energy yet remain above the condensation temperature of water vapor; at the pressures at which reaction turbines and reciprocating piston engines operate.

Of prime importance in these applications is the fact that water vapor containing entrained liquid droplets is generally incompressible at those pressures. In a reciprocating engine or turbine, if steam doing work cools to a temperature at which liquid droplets form, then the water droplets entrained in the fluid flow will strike the mechanical parts with enough force to bend, crack or fracture them. Superheating and pressure reduction through expansion ensures that the steam flow remains as a compressible gas throughout its passage through a turbine or an engine, preventing damage of the internal moving parts.

Saturated steam
Saturated steam is steam that is in equilibrium with heated water at the same pressure, i.e., it has not been heated above the boiling point for its pressure. This is in contrast to superheated steam, in which the steam (vapor) has been separated from the water droplets then additional heat has been added.

These condensation droplets are a cause of damage to steam turbine blades, the reason why such turbines rely on a supply of dry, superheated steam.

Dry steam is saturated steam that has been very slightly superheated. This is not sufficient to change its energy appreciably, but is a sufficient rise in temperature to avoid condensation problems, given the average loss in temperature across the steam supply circuit. Towards the end of the 19th century, when superheating was still a less-than-certain technology, such steam-drying gave the condensation-avoiding benefits of superheating without requiring the sophisticated boiler or lubrication techniques of full superheating.

By contrast, water vapor that includes water droplets is described as wet steam. If wet steam is heated further, the droplets evaporate, and at a high enough temperature (which depends on the pressure) all of the water evaporates, the system is in vapor–liquid equilibrium, and it becomes saturated steam.

Saturated steam is advantageous in heat transfer due to the high latent heat of vaporization. It is a very efficient mode of heat transfer. In layman's terms, saturated steam is at its dew point at the corresponding temperature and pressure. The typical latent heat of vaporization (or condensation) is 970 btu/lb for saturated steam at atmospheric pressure.

Steam engine
Superheated steam was widely used in main line steam locomotives. Saturated steam has three main disadvantages in a steam engine: it contains small droplets of water which have to be periodically drained from the cylinders; being precisely at the boiling point of water for the boiler pressure in use, it inevitably condenses to some extent in the steam pipes and cylinders outside the boiler, causing a disproportionate loss of steam volume as it does so; and it places a heavy demand on the boiler.

Superheating the steam dries it effectively, raises its temperature to a point where condensation is much less likely and increases its volume significantly. Added together, these factors increase the power and economy of the locomotive. The main disadvantages are the added complexity and cost of the superheater tubing and the adverse effect that the "dry" steam has on lubrication of moving components such as the steam valves. Shunting locomotives did not generally use superheating.

The normal arrangement involved taking steam after the regulator valve and passing it through long superheater tubes inside specially large firetubes of the boiler. The superheater tubes had a reverse ("torpedo") bend at the firebox end so that the steam had to pass the length of the boiler at least twice, picking up heat as it did so.

Processing
Other potential uses of superheated steam include: drying, cleaning, layering, reaction engineering, epoxy drying and film use where saturated to highly superheated steam is required at one atmospheric pressure or at high pressure. Ideal for steam drying, steam oxidation and chemical processing. Uses are in surface technologies, cleaning technologies, steam drying, catalysis, chemical reaction processing, surface drying technologies, curing technologies, energy systems and nanotechnologies.

The application of superheated steam for sanitation of dry food processing plant environment has been reported.

Superheated steam is not usually used in a heat exchanger due to low heat transfer co-efficient. In refining and hydrocarbon industries superheated steam is mainly used for stripping and cleaning purposes.

Pest control
Steam has been used for soil steaming since the 1890s. Steam is induced into the soil which causes almost all organic material to deteriorate (the term "sterilization" is used, but it is not strictly correct since all micro-organism are not necessarily killed). Soil steaming is an effective alternative to many chemicals in agriculture, and is used widely by greenhouse growers. Wet steam is primarily used in this process, but if soil temperatures above the 212 °F boiling point of water are required, superheated steam must be used.

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Category:Islands of Denmark

See also List of islands of Denmark

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D-A-D (band)

D-A-D (formerly stylized as D:A:D) is a Danish rock band. They were originally named Disneyland After Dark, but changed their name to avoid a lawsuit from The Walt Disney Company.

History
In the early 1980s in Copenhagen, D-A-D started playing together under their original name Disneyland After Dark. Pedersen came up with the name based on the idea that when the lights are out in Disneyland, anything can happen. The first lineup of D-A-D consisted of Jesper, Stig, Peter and Stig's girlfriend, Lene Glumer. The band's debut concert was at the youth club Sundby Algaard. In December 1982, Lene Glumer left the band and the three of them kept playing together and on 3 March 1984, Jesper's younger brother, Jacob, joined the band at a concert at Musikcaféen in Copenhagen.

The band released their first album, Call of the Wild in 1986.

The group made their international breakthrough in 1989 with the record No Fuel Left for the Pilgrims on Warner Records, which was released on the band's fifth birthday. They achieved some airplay with the single "Sleeping My Day Away".

The current lineup is Jesper Binzer, Jacob Binzer, Stig Pedersen and Laust Sonne.

The largest concert the band played as the opening act for the Böhse Onkelz on their farewell festival on 17 June 2005, about 120,000 people on the Euro Speedway Lausitz.

Band members
Jesper Binzer Binzer is from Frederiksberg like Laust Sonne. He was one of the founders of the band in 1982. He also plays drums for the band The Whiteouts and has also written a song for the Danish movie Bleeder.
 * Birth: 4 September 1965
 * Position: lead vocals, guitar, banjo, and backing vocals.

Jacob Binzer Jesper Binzer's younger brother. He is from Frederiksberg. Jacob has played in the band since 1984.
 * Birth: 28 October 1966
 * Position: Lead guitar, backing vocals, kazoo, piano, and keyboards.
 * Nickname: Cobber

Stig Pedersen Stig is from Amager and used to play in a punk band called ADS and also plays in a band called Hellbetty. A notable aspect of Pedersen's bass playing is his use of almost exclusively two-stringed bass guitars; his basses often take extravagant shapes, such as an iPhone whose screen shows the audience.
 * Birth: 18 May 1965
 * Position: Bass guitar, lead vocals and backing vocals.

Laust Sonne Sonne is from Frederiksberg. He has played in the band since 1999. He also plays in the bands Dear and Bugpowder.
 * Birth: 11 December 1974
 * Position: drums, backing vocals, vibraphone, keyboards, guitar, saxophone, xylophone, and bass guitar.

Line-up history

Albums
Studio albums

Live albums

Compilation albums

Extended plays

Tours

 * Scare Yourself Alive Tour (2005–2006)
 * D-A-D Tour 2007 (2007)
 * D-A-D Tour 2008 (2008)
 * Monster Philosophy Tour (2009)
 * D-A-D Tour 2010 (2010)
 * D-A-D Tour 2011 (2011)
 * Fast On Wheels Tour (2012)
 * D-A-D Tour 2013 (2013)
 * D-A-D Tour 2015 (2015)

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List of prime ministers of Mali

This is a list of prime ministers of Mali since the country gained independence from France in 1960 to the present day. The prime minister heads the Council of Ministers.

A total of seventeen people have served as Prime Minister of Mali (not counting five acting prime ministers). Additionally, one person, Modibo Keita, served on two non-consecutive occasions.

The current Interim Prime Minister of Mali is Choguel Kokalla Maïga, since 6 June 2021. He was appointed by the National Committee for the Salvation of the People, which has governed the country since the 2021 Malian coup d'état.

The 2023 constitutional referendum brought a new constitution into force on July 22, 2023, which reduced the powers of the prime minister significantly. The prime minister and government are now responsible to the president rather than parliament, and the president heads and directs the policy of the government.

List of officeholders
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Talk:Domotics

Domotics
Domotics = Domus + Informatics? Are you sure it's not Domestic + Robotics? --Ardonik 08:30, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)

 * Domestic+robotics are domestic robots. When the robots are microbots, appear [domobot]]s.Mac 08:57, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Both domotics.com and answers.com  define it as domus + informatics. --Mumblingmynah 08:15, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

I have been a long time buyer/user of home automation, since the 70's, and have never heard this term. I might suggest "domotics" as a separate interesting entry of some specific academic (or ?) element of home automation, but, at face value, distracting from the basic reality of what home automation is.

It would seem to be valuable, rather, to use the home automation entry to describe what it is, etc., for example, for people that actually want to install/use.

I lend my voice to the above comment. While "Domotics" does seem a nobel attempt to create a grand new term, it is some what alienating to home owners, read normal people.

--Dfa881 10:17, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

There is an comon error when analysing the tern "Domotics": it is not Domus + Robotics but "Domus + Automatic". It actualy comes from the latin Domus + the french Automatique.

I see no reason to restrict the term DOMOTICS to home automation or to home only. The term should be used to a broader class that includes all habitable places like offices, spacestations, submarines, etc. The reason is simple: automation in domotics sense is to provide among other things confort, security, communication, supervison and control of energy supplies and demands, considering people living around or inside! The association of the term domotics with home automation comes mainly from comercial interests.

Like many things in the robotics field, there is no one right answer that will satisfy everyone. Since Wikipedia is supposed to be an encylopedia, the word itself must first be defined. No matter what the actual history of "domotics" is, a quick search shows that "dom" and "domo" whether from Latin or Greek roots, means both "home" (domicile), and "to tame" (domesticate) among other related meanings. The second half of domotics, whether it includes the "o" or not (otics, or just tics) is less clear but if it relates to "automatic" and "robotic" doesn't really matter since "automatic" and "robotic" mean about the same thing in this instance. For this reason I suggest that domotics means "automatic house" or "robotic house" and nothing beyond that. I agree with the suggestion on the Home automation article. These should all be merged into one article under the Home automation heading. Takeitupalevel 03:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read the article and references as it is today. --Kiaitutoi (talk) 08:02, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Merged reasoning.
Merge discussion stalled in 2007. The Home automation article already uses Domotics as an alternative name. Was considering a simple redirect, but additional information from this article now included there. See Consensus reached at Talk:Home automation/Archive 1 in 2007 Haruth (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

 * The merge was reversed without explanation. --Kvng (talk) 16:54, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

We can't merge 2 things that are so different (my point of view). If you merged, it was just because nobody had written Domotics article. I did it... --Kiaitutoi (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

 * Please discuss this at Talk:Home automation/Archive 1. --Kvng (talk) 20:06, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Searching Google for Domotics brings up the website of what appears to be a British corporation, hence this is commercial advertising as the term is otherwise little attested.— Robert Greer (talk) 13:13, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

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Danny Invincibile

Daniele Invincibile (born 31 March 1979) is a football manager and former player who is the head coach of Thai League 2 club Ayutthaya United.

Club career
Born in Brisbane, Invincibile attended Payne Road Primary School, Brisbane, Australia. His clubs in Australia included The Gap, Taringa Rovers, Brisbane Strikers and the Marconi Stallions. He was selected in the Australian under-20s team and was a member of the Queensland Academy of Sport.

Swindon Town
Invincibile joined Swindon Town on 29 July 2000 after being spotted by manager Colin Todd while playing in a trial match alongside Gary Alexander for West Ham United. In April 2001, his injury-time winner against Peterborough United effectively saved Swindon from relegation in the 2000–01 season. He scored 25 goals in league and cup competitions while at the club.

Kilmarnock
On 24 July 2003, Invincibile was signed as a free agent by Jim Jefferies on a one-year deal. He was troubled by injuries in his first season, but went on to make 21 appearances and score five goals. He played the roles of winger or striker, and wore the number 11 shirt.

In April 2006, Invincibile turned down the chance to return to the Australian National League by refusing an offer from A-League team Melbourne Victory.

In November 2006, he helped Kilmarnock into the semi-finals of the CIS Insurance League Cup by curling home the winner in a 3–2 victory over Motherwell.

In the final league match of the 2008–09 season, Invincibile scored the opening goal for Kilmarnock in the away match against Motherwell, and he finished with 8 goals for the season

On 31 January 2011, it was reported that Kilmarnock had released Invincibile from his contract.

St Johnstone
On 25 February 2011, he joined St Johnstone on a short-term contract.

Army United
In January 2012, he joined Thai Premier League team Army United.

International career
On 26 August 2009, Invincibile was named in the Australian squad for a friendly against South Korea, which was played on 5 September in Seoul, South Korea.

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Germanism

Germanism may refer to
 * German nationalism
 * Pan-Germanism
 * Germanisation
 * Germanism (linguistics)
 * German expressions in English
 * Germanic philology, the philological study of the Germanic languages
 * In discussions of English writing, an awkward noun phrase that seems like an attempt to construct a compound noun in the German manner, is sometimes referred to as a Germanism.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waldo 54

This is a poorly written (in my opinion) article about a poorly written (again, my opinion) web-published autobiography about a clone. Seems like vanity to me. Delete. Gentgeen 08:33, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * oops, I forgot its clone, "Waldo 54" should be deleted with it. Gentgeen 08:34, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * If it hasn't been published off line, and the author has no significant publication record, then delete. Average Earthman 13:10, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete both. 33 hits. Actually sounded like a potentially interesting book, until I learned no one is selling it! Niteowlneils 13:19, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete both: Not published except on the web, no notability. Geogre 13:31, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * All is vanity, but at least this is notably vain! -Waldo 37, 10 Aug 2004
 * Delete Cutler 22:52, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete self-promotion. -- Cyrius|✎ 03:31, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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Talk:Christopher Collins

Rewrite finished
I finished the rewrite and moved the page to "Christopher Collins" (the name he preferred). Christopher was my dad, so I based this article on what I knew about him first-hand. Before posting the article I checked with my mom to make sure all the info was correct. I also created redirects for "Chris Collins" and "Christopher Latta" --Szyslak 23:29, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Did Chris Latta voice Mr. Burns
I'm very sure that Christopher Collins did not voice Mr. Burns. I've watched the Homer's Oddessy and Mr. Burns still sounds like Harry Shearer, although he is using a different voice, like in all of the first season episodes. Though, I do believe that Chris did do the original voice of Moe. Hank Azaria said in an audio commentary on the fifth season DVD that Chris did the voice of Moe and Hank would only dub one or two lines. You can tell that in Some Enchanted Evening, when Bart prank calls Moe, the Al Kaholic one, it's Chris doing the voice of Moe. But when Bart prank calls Moe again, the Oliver Klozoff one, that sounds more like Hank. I think they did the same thing with Harry having dubbed one or two lines. Personally, I don't know. It's just an educated guess. If you do have proof that Chris did do the voice of Mr. Burns, please let me know, because right now, I'm sure that Chris did or did not do the voice of Mr. Burns though I'm positive with your beliefs that Chris did do the voice of Moe.--63.22.254.33 14:40, 7 August 2006

A clarification: Chris Collins did the voice of Moe in the original production of "Some Enchanted Evening", but when most of the episode was re-animated Hank Azaria re-recorded Moe's lines. Chris still appears in the final episode as the America's Most Armed and Dangerous. He's Moe and Mr. Burns in "Homer's Odyssey". szyslak (t, c,  e ) 23:46, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Its been confirmed for many years now by Matt Groening, Harry Shearer and Hank Azaria that Christopher Collins (aka Chris Latta) did voice Moe and Mr. Burns in the pilot and one other episodes and that after he was fired, Shearer and Azaria redubbed most of the lines. I can't provide a definitive reference but as you said it was mentioned in the BluRay and DVD audio commentaries. IKnowTheWayToSanJose (talk) 05:19, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

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This image is NOT in its correct aspect ratio (it's clearly vertically stretched). As it's copyrighted, I can't just correct it and reupload. Does anyone have a correct copy that doesn't look like crap? Alvis 04:57, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

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 * Flint Dille noted on the commentary track for the 20th anniversary that Latta had died.

commentary track or the 20th anniversary of what? I assume TF of GI Joe DVDs? 174.148.11.199 (talk) 14:42, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I was just about to ask the same thing when I saw your post. Can anyone provide clarification. YborCityJohn (talk) 01:30, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

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