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Talk:John Peel

Albums played in their entirety
The page says "On two occasions on his radio show, Peel played albums in their entirety from start to finish..." I'm almost certain he played a Cocteau Twins album from start to finish in the early 80s. Anyone remember that? I don't know the name of the album, not being a fan of that band. Jaybee (talk) 22:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Going back over my tapes of the time, the first Cocteau tracks I have from Peel were from Head over Heels (Cocteau Twins album) in 1983, and I can believe Peely would have played that album in toto. Don't have a reliable source beyond my own memory, however. -- Rodhull andemu  22:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

My memory too is that he played the Head Over Heels album all the way through. I went and bought it as a result.Vauxhall1964 (talk) 10:36, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Addition of a link to John Peel 1967 airchecks with brief bio
I have added a link to the Pirate Radio Hall of Fame which has two clickable links of airchecks by John Peel recorded off air in 1967 when he was with Wonderful Radio London. There is also an error entry of the Pirate Radio page which states that John Peel was with Radio Caroline instead of WRL. I will be correcting this error and linking it back to the John Peel page and the Radio London page. MPLX 18:54, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Dutch VPRO Radio3
He had a radio show at least one season on the Dutch Radio3 vpro radio on wednesday afternoon somewhere during the eighties. More recent on Finsk Radio Mafia. Just to mention how 'grant' the man was. LeoBistmans from nl.wikipedia.org

Biography
Has anyone got a reference on the autobiography that was in the works? - David Gerard 22:04, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * how's this? --rbrwr± 22:54, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * this, too --rbrwr± 22:58, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

In Memoriam John Peel
I got known to John Peel from his shows "John Peels Music on BFBS" in Germany and I must say that I will really miss him. John Peel made us know Joy Division, New Order and The Cure in Germany and enjoy a lot of bands who had only a couple of hundreds demo records to send it to the radio stations. In the 1980ties, he cycled the way from his home in Ipswich to the studio in London. I will tell my children and my grand-children about him. He was a friendly, humouros, warm-hearted and honest man responding to every letter from his listeners. Once he mentioned his son William who loved a single named "Action man" - at the age of ten. My condolence to his family now. -- Simplicius 06:11, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC), Germany

I wanted to add this because the pages on John Peel in Wikipedia don't really do justice to how important he has been to the British alternative music scene for several generations. His death this week made headline news in the UK on every station and in every paper. I was listening to Radio 5 Live when the news broke that he had died whilst on holiday in Peru. The presenter was Simon Mayo - an ex Radio 1 DJ who knew Peel well - and it was extremely shocking. Normal news was suspended for an hour whilst people recalled their memories. It was amazing how many people have personal stories of John Peel. I wouldn't say that I am massively into the music scene but I had the pleasure of meeting him twice; once at Glastonbury Festival (where he was regularly the voice of the BBC) and at a Fall gig in a cosy venue in Norwich. And this is really the main thing that came across about Peel: Despite his huge importance he was accessible, unpretentious and continuously interested in what was new and fresh in music. Unheard of bands sent him demos and he actually listened to them and if he liked them he played them on national radio - he has launched the careers of many famous names this way but hundreds of wannabies also have him to thank for their three minutes of fame. This was as true when he was 65 as when he was 20. Britain has lost a genuine legend.

First record played twice in a row
Could you provide a reference for that? I found no evidence on google and distinctly remember Peel, having played Twist The Knife by Neko Case twice in a row saying the only other time he'd done that was then Teenage Kicks first came out. I'm pretty sure it wasn't one of my additions to the page as well, so clearly there are others thinking along the same lines. --Joe D (t) 02:32, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * sadly i cant find the freaking link anymore, i went looking for it. I do remember the article saying he played Laughing Stock by Love twice in a row it also stated him as saying the song was aptly named. When i can find it again i will link it. In the meantime can you provide verification that Teenage Kicks was his first double play? Alkivar 04:09, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * 'fraid I can't provide any concrete evidence that he didn't play Love first, though I have the Neko Case peel session on CD at my parents' house which might possibly have a mention on it... Joe D (t) 17:02, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 * AFAIK teenage kicks was Peel's first double play single- however I am utterly certain that Teenage Kicks wasn't released in 1968 but in 1978, so have corrected that particular bit of misinformation, but if anyone knows of an earlier back to back double played record by Peel this can be integrated into the text- the double playing of 'Kicks' was still notable. BTW I have a childhood memory of T. Rex' "Solid Gold Easy Action" being played twice back to back by a radio DJ (not Peel), but maybe thats just the past playing tricks??? quercus robur 10:29, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

This was cleared up in a note which was left in the main namespace, which I've moved into the talk space:
 * Another conflict is the reference to the Undertones record being played twice in a row in 1968. The band wasn't formed until 1976. In 1968 John Peel played the studio recording of Love Sculpture's Sabre Dance twice in one show, though not back to back.

I've fixed the article. Joe D (t) 11:06, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I do recall Peel playing The Jesus & Mary Chain's 'Sidewalking' three times on one show, including twice in a row. This was the first time he'd ever heard it.

 * so do I. Jem 18:07, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

I can confirm John playing Love Sculpture's Sabre Dance twice in one show - because I was listening at the time!. It was a session track which so enthralled him he rearranged the rest of the show so he could finish his program with a second playing of it.

The track was subsequently released as a single and was in the top ten in November 1968. This early date almost certainly makes it the first 'played twice in one show' track from John on Radio 1.

scoop 14:47 18 Oct 2005

I should add 1) The "Love Sculpture" was a session, and because he played it twice, the BBC had to pay double the session fee. 2) He did play "SideWalking" by the Jesus and Mary Chain twice on the same show (but not in a row), because I rang him up and asked him to.

Peel in France
He's missed almost just as much in France. "Un héros de musique rock" I heard him being referenced as last night on the radio

John Peel stage
Just incase anybody else wants to change this, here's the link the save you the bother: the stage was "New Tent" not "New Bands Tent"!. Ta :) Joe D (t) 17:02, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

"Wonderful" Radio London
Radio London's name wasn't prefixed by "Wonderful". It was just plain Radio London or at a push lower case w. So I've changed all references to it. Any google "radio london" search verifies this in numerous articles. Hangleton79 12:05, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * This information is incorrect. My information comes from the files of Don Pierson, the creator of Wonderful Radio London. The station was not allowed to register as a company in the United Kingdom, and so its main operation was located in the Bahama islands under a total different name have no connection to "Wonderful" "Radio" or "London". All of these links went back to Eastland, Texas and to the Abilene National Bank where the founder of Wonderful Radio London was the president. To enable advertising sales in the UK, a totally separate and independent sales agency (not owned in Texas), was authorized and registered under British law called "Radlon (Sales) Ltd." This contraction was to get the British General Post Office who at that time controlled the phone service to provide a phone service to that company. However, while the name "Radio London" was painted on the side of the ship, all station identification over the air was made as "Wonderful Radio London" or "Wonderful Big L". The car stickers said the same thing. After the station closed in 1967 the BBC started its own "BBC Radio London" and in 1983 the founder of the original offshore station backed a new enterprise called "Wonderful Radio London International, Inc." In 1997 the first in a series of low-power operations was commenced under a RSL licence, again using the same name on the air. All literature and recordings have also used the same name in order to make it clear that the station referenced is the original Texas offshore station and not a BBC station or any number of legally licensed IBA commercial stations that subsequently came on the air after the 1970s, including a recent version called "Easy Radio London" has undergone many format changes. The actual name of that station is "Easy Radio" but the name "London" was also featured and some of its jingles harked back to the same series as the original "Wonderful Radio London" format. Today if anyone reads the name "Wonderful Radio London" instead of "Radio London", they know that it is the offshore station and its legacies that are being discussed and not the BBC or IBA varieties. Don Pierson created a similar structure for his other offshore stations "Swinging Radio England" and "Britain Radio", which were represented in London by another independent sales company called "Peir Vick Ltd." My information comes from original source files. I suggest you redo your search and also search under Yahoo. Also check out the Wonderful Radio London copyrights web site. MPLX/MH 15:33, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

National service
Does anyone have the time to resolve the issue of John Peel's National Service and the conflicting dates problem? Is it possible that Peel did not complete his National Service but took off for the USA where it would appear that he got married in order to stay in the country? By his own words he describes himself as a victim of wife abuse and his wife seems to have followed him around, even though they were not happy together. It was this situation which caused Peel to leap at the idea of being stranded on the Big L ship so that he could be free from his wife. His early life seems to have been a disaster out of which he made a success. So can anyone resolve the issue of whether he went AWOL or dodged the draft or what? MPLX/MH 18:54, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well, he was born in August 1939, so he was 18 in August 1957 (by which time he must already have left Shrewsbury, as I don't think he even lasted into the sixth form) so he was probably called up soon after that and his two years should have been up by early 1960 at the latest. Is that a reasonable timeline? I don't really know how National Service worked, but a date of 1962 for getting out seems unrealistically late to me. The BBC obit says 1957 to 1959, which seems much more likely. The Grauniad agrees. --rbrwr± 20:10, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Good show: add a footnote or appendage to Peel's own words. MPLX/MH 20:14, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * The 1962 date wasn't in either of the Peel quotes, so I just changed it. Peel says he started working on WRR in 1961, so a sensible timeline would be:
 * Autumn 1959, demobbed
 * 1960, went to Texas and worked in the cotton business
 * 1961, started on WRR part-time
 * 1964, Beatlemania, KOMA Oklahoma
 * very early 1966, San Bernadino, for a year and (less than) a half
 * Spring(?) 1967, Wonderful Radio London
 * August 1967, BBC
 * How's that? --rbrwr± 20:30, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Ron Steel"

 * "There is a John Peel tribute DJ, Ron Steel, who works with the John Peel Memorial Music Foundation."

Can anybody confirm the existence of this tribute act? Or any of the details in the Ron Steel article? "Macclesford Owls Home"? "Buford Polytechnic"? ...and according to that article, the "John Peel Memorial Music Foundation" is a mere ambition, but here it is implied to be a real thing. Googling "ron steel" dj doesn't help. Googling "ron steel" "john peel" gets you this article and nothing else. Please, someone show me some references. --rbrwr± 21:28, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * I am 95% certain of one of two possibilities: 1) "Ron Steel" wrote the initial Wiki entry. He can't spell and has made this stuff up with every edit since November. The references are silly. On the 5% end of possibility 2) This guy is playing around in his head with a daydream and Britain is full of such people, but no such person really exists and certainly no such Wikipedia page should exist. However, I have a solution. Delete what is there and turn it into a redirect for a real dj who became famous as "The Real Don Steele" and then if that article does not exist, create one. MPLX/MH 21:41, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

 * Well right now Ron Steel is a redirect for a brand new article about The Real Don Steele. MPLX/MH 22:41, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

San Bernardino
Was it KMEN or KMEM? See http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/johnpeel/story/0,15271,1336799,00.html -- SGBailey 22:55, 2005 Apr 3 (UTC)

 * Google hit counts prove nothing, but... kmen "san bernardino": 412 hits, some with very supportive context (other DJs from the station, etc). kmem "san bernardino": 75 hits including one interview with JP and the Guardian story you mention. It seems that neither callsign is currently used in San Bernardino, California. --rbrwr± 06:31, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spartak Varna/Raptor Phuckov
I reverted this:

 * [...] it is less well-known that he also fell in love with Bulgarian side Spartak Varna after the club's striker Raptor Phuckov became the lead singer of the Eastern European country's foremost death metal band The Beatles.

Raptor Phuckov has already been deleted as an apparent hoax (see Votes for deletion/Raptor Phuckov). I was unable to confirm any of the details in this addition with a quick Google and I don't remember him mentioning Spartak Varna particularly. If anyone can cast (well-referenced) light on this claim, I'd be interested... --rbrwr± 23:05, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * There's been a spate of vandalism involving Spartak Varna and Raptor Phuckov involving such articles as Michael Owen, Malcolm Glazer, Andriy Shevchenko and many more. Take it as read that this was vandalism. There actually is a Spartak Varna club (currently bottom of the Bulgarian Premier League), but I can find no evidence that their players include the etymologically-unlikely Raptor Phuckov... -- Arwel 23:54, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

 * Well, I thought that that was the most likely explanation. --rbrwr± 06:03, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Raptor pretty famous amongst most football experts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wicks (talk • contribs) 4 April 2006

Strange Fruit Records
I removed this from the article:

 * In the 1990's Peel set up the Strange Fruit record label with Clive Selwood to release material recorded by the BBC for Peel Sessions.

Do we have a reference for this? I seem to remember Peel stating he had no involvement with the label, and adding that he wished he did. Flowerparty 17:29, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

In an interview with Interview magazine (Jan 1994) John stated
 * So when did you get the idea to release the material recorded on record?

 * I'd been arguing with the BBC about this ever since it started - I originally suggested the BBC release it through BBC Enterprise, on their own label. I went to Richard Branson at Virgin amongst others, but he wasn't keen, so eventually I went to Clive Selwood again and together we set up Strange Fruit.

The link for the interview is I'll add the reference to the article againAllanHainey 08:32, 15 July 2005 (UTC)

Strange Fruit issued its first recordings sometime towards the end of 1986.

UK Hardcore or Upfront Hardcore, not happy hardcore
The Track titles John Peel is not enough is not Happy Hardcore, the happy stage in Hardcore history was 94-98/99 after that it is Uk/Upfront hardcore, the Happy sound is very differnet to the Upfront sound and so I request you correct this, and no I dont know why i made the effort of letting u all know about such a trivial matter lol, sorry :)
 * The writer Jon Doe (who now uses the pseudonym CLSM) is most definately a "happy hardcore" producer. I can start putting audio samples up if you wish to debate this more.  ALKIVAR ™[[Image:Radioactive.svg|18px|]] 00:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
 * A third opinion: both of you are right. A DJ&producer from the scene recently answered the question in a discussion forum this way: "what I play is definitely Upfront Happy Hardcore". Yes, this style is very different from Oldschool HHC - nevertheless (unfortunately) HHC is still a very common nomenclature (due to the fact that nearly all the producers are originated from the oldschool HHC scene).
 * Of course i'm right, I've been spinning HHC for more than just a couple years, and listening to it for over 10.  ALKIVAR ™[[Image:Radioactive.svg|18px|]] 04:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

 * The piece was lacking anyhow. Peel's contribution was far far greater than this. He was playing hardcore (and electronic music) of all forms since they came out. I've read that new hardcore fans thought he just started playing stuff like CLSM, when in reality he was playing all that, and more, since time began. Besides, as the original writer said, the track in question is not regarded as "happy hardcore" in the UK. What "happy hardcore" musically means differs greatly outside the UK and is a term no longer used here. I have simply changed it to "hardcore" to reflect the many types of music he actually played throughout his career. If we took into account the amount of stuff he was playing, there is no need to make prominent this one sub-style... whatever it is called. --Revolt 10:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

John Peel Sessions
Is there reason for an own article named John Peel Sessions? It could name bands sorted by year. -- Simplicius 16:54, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

The section on the Sessions is a bit unclear. E.g.:

 * The BBC employed its own house bands and orchestras and it also engaged outside bands to record exclusive tracks for its programs in BBC studios. This was the reason why Peel was able to use "session men" in his own programs. Sessions were usually four tracks recorded and mixed in a single day; as such they often had a rough and ready, demo-like feel, somewhere between a live performance and a finished recording. Many classic Peel Sessions have been released on record, particularly by the Strange Fruit label. Latterly the show also regularly featured live performances, mostly from Maida Vale in London, but occasionally in the Peel Acres living room.

I take it that, as opposed to the BBC's standard practice at the time, Peel's "session men" were actually the artists themselves. Is this true? If so, it ought to be stated explicitly. If not, perhaps someone could mention when the practice was changed—perhaps at some point before the Sessions section veers off into the 7 paragraph non-Sessions-related non sequitur on old 78s, the Festive Fifty, happy hardcore and so forth. 66.73.194.45 01:14, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

 * I've moved the non-Sessions stuff up into the Radio 1 section where it belongs.--duncan 09:23, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

 * Ok, at least there is List of Peel Sessions now. Simplicius (talk) 15:28, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

With regard to the sentence "In May 2020, hundreds of classic Peel Sessions were uploaded to YouTube in an alphabetised catalogue.[34]" This is very misleading! Myself and several others have uploaded these sessions over time, primarily over the past 10 years and more. The blog referred to in the article linked to is merely an alphabetical collation of those available on YouTube and, very impressive though it is, the blogger has not uploaded any of them himself. The sentence is therefore both misleading and disrespectful to those of us who have spent many years creating and uploading the sessions. I would please suggest that this be corrected. Vibracobra23 (talk) 20:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

NB - have corrected the above myself and have changed the reference used to the equivalent NME article as that is far more accurate.Vibracobra23 (talk) 08:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

His books?
Why is there no information about his books? If you have no earthly clue of what I am talking about here is the Barnes & Noble link to the first book of the series. Now maybe I am horribly mistaken, but this is the only person who use(d)s the name John Peel. -Hoekenheef 22:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * See John Peel (disambiguation), which is linked from the top of the page, and John Peel (writer). --rbrwr± 22:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

 * Thanks man. I didn't catch the disambig link. Sorry about that. -Hoekenheef 00:53, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

BBC link
This article is currently linked from the main feature on the front page of BBC online. Piccadilly 13:47, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

List of John Peel's Record Box -- Help needed
from the Times Online article here:

please see John Peel's Record Box <!--

1. Al Casey - Surfin' Hootenanny + Easy Pickin (PIE INTERNATIONAL) 1963

2. Al Ferrier - I'm Not Drinking More + Don't Play Blue Eyes' (MASTER TRAK) 1980

3. Alan Price Set - I Put a Spell on You (DECCA)

4. Andy Capp - Popatop + Reco - The Lion Speaks (TREASURE ISLAND) 1969

5. Anemic Boyfriends - Guys Are Not Proud + Bad Girls in Love (RED SWEATER RECORDS) 1980

6. Ann Peebles - I can't stand the rain + i've been there before (LONDON) 1972

7. Anti-Social - Traffic lights + teacher, teacher (DYNAMITE RECORDS) 1977

8. Arthur K Adams - Wildwood flower + It's a wild, wild, wild, wild wildwood flower (JETSTAR)

9. Big Stick - Drag racing + Hell on earth (RECESS RECORDS) 1985

10. Bill Oddie - Harry krishna + on ilkla moor baht'at (DANDELION) 1970

11. Boards of Canada - Aquarius + Chinook (SKAM)

12. Bobby Lee Trammell - If you ever get it once + Don't you know I love you (ALLEY RECORDS)

13. Cat Power - Headlights + Darling said sir (THE MAKING OF AMERICANS)

14. Charlie Feathers - Deep elm blues + Nobody's darling' (HOLIDAY INN RECORDS)

15. Charlie Feathers - Nobody's women + When you decide (KING) 2x copies

17. Charlie Feathers - Today and tomorrow + Wild wild party' (MEMPHIS RECORDINGS)

18. Charlie Feathers - Tongue-tied Jill + Get with it' (METEOR RECORDS)

19. Charlie Feathers - When you come around + Too much alike' (KING)

20. Cheeze - Dancin With The Dead - Dancin queen + Direwolf 1989 (BOB RECORDS) 1989

21. Clague - The stride + I wonder where (DANDELION) 1969

22. Clefs of Lavender Hill - Stop! - Get a ticket + First tell me why (DATE)

23. Cleveland Crochet - Sugar bee + Drunkards dream (GOLDBAND)

24. Don Covay - It's better to have + Leave him (MERCURY) 1973

25. Don French - Lonely saturday night + Goldilocks (QUALITY) (LANCER) 2x copies

27. Dreamland Express - Groovy + u.f.o (EMI)

28. Easy Teeth - Car noise + Her blade (DENTAL RECORDS) 1980

29. Eddie & Ernie - I believe she will + We try harder (CHESS) 1984

30. Eddie & Ernie - I'm gonna always love you + Outcast (EASTERN)

31. Eddie & Ernie - Time waits for no one + That's the way it is (EASTERN)

32. Electro Hippies - Mega-armageddon death (STRANGE FRUIT) Peel session

33. Elmore James - The sky is crying + Standing at the crossroads (FLASHBACK RECORDS)

34. Firemen - Old smokie + Louie's theme (LE CAM)

35. Freshmen - You never heard anything like it + Bombing run (RELEASE RECORDS) 1979

36. G L Crockett - It's a man down there + Every hour, every day (4 BROTHERS)

37. G L Crockett - Look out Mabel + Did you ever love somebody (CHECKER)

38. Geater Davis - For your precious love + Wrapped up in you (HOUSE OF ORANGE)

39. Gene Dozier & The United Front - Give the women what they want + The best girl I ever had (MERCURY) 1974

40. Golinski Brothers - Bloody + Toy (BADGE RECORDS) 1980 2x copies

42. Green Hornes - Stayed up last night (ITALY RECORDS)

43. Hooten 3 Car - Danny + Numena (RUMBLESTRIP RECORDS)

44. Idle Race - Here we go round the lemon tree + My father's son (LIBERTY) 45. Izzy Royal - Coronation St (WEA) 1983

46. Jane Bond and The Undercover Men - Hot rod Lincoln + Come on up (EAR MOVIES RECORDS) 1982

47. Jerry Byro - Memories of Maria + Invitation (MONUMENT) 1961 2x copies - different labels

48. Jody Reynolds - Endless sleep + Western movies (LIBERTY)

49. Johnnie Taylor - I've been born again + At night time (STAX) 1974

50. Johnny Adams - You're a lady + I wish it would rain (ATLANTIC) 1972

51. Johnny Fortune - Dragster + Soul surfer (SONET) 1964

52. Ken Colyers Jazzmen (TEMPO RECORDS) 1953

53. La Peste - Black + Better off dead (BLACK RECORDS) 1978

54. Larry Bright - Mojo workout + I'll change my ways (TIDE)

55. Laurie Anderson - O Superman + Walk the dog (ONE TEN RECORDS) 1981

56. Lee Perry - Bafflin' smoke signal + Black smoke signal (BLACK ARC) 1978

57. Lightnin Hopkins - Mojo hand + Glory be (FLASHBACK RECORDS)

58. Marc Bolan - Marc Bolan talking to Stevie Dixon, 1973. Jennifer Sharp, Steve Harley & John Peel talking to Stevie Dixon 1977. (CUBE/PYE RECORDS)

59. Mary Monday - I gave my punk jacket to Richie + Popgun (MALICIOUS PRODUCTIONS)

60. Max Romeo - Sipple out deh' Lee Perry + Revelation (UPSETTER)

61. MC5 - Looking at you + Borderline (A-SQUARE RECORDS) 2x copies

63. Medicine Head - Coast to coast + All for tomorrow (DANDELION) 1970

64. Medicine Head - His guiding hand + This love of old (DANDELION) 1969 2x copies

66. Mel and Tim - Starting all over again + It hurts to want it so bad (STAX) 1972

67. Meow - Kat nip + One night stand + Anthem + Kill kill kill + Catastrophe + Boy groupies (TWIST LIKE THIS RECORDS)

68. Mickey Lee Lane - Tuitti Fruitti + With your love (MALA)

69. Mike Spencer and the Cannibals - Good guys + Nothing takes the place of you (BIG COCK RECORDS)

70. Nice - The thoughts of Emerlist Davjack (IMMEDIATE)

71. Nilsson - Everybody's talkin' (RCA)

72. Nilsson - Kojak Columbo (RCA)

73. Nilsson - Without you (RCA)

74. O V Wright - That's how strong my love is + There goes my used to be (GOLDWAX)

75. Paul Blake & The Blood Fire Posse - Every posse get flat + Flat out (STUDIO WORK) 1984

76. Paul Revere & The Raiders - Him or me - what's it gonna be? + Legend of Paul Revere (CBS) 1967

77. Pavement - Demolition Plot J-7 (DRAG CITY) 1990

78. Pocket Fishrmen (sic) - Yr story + The leader is burning (NOISEVILLE) 1989

79. Quads - You've gotta jive + There must be thousands (BIG BEAR RECORDS) 1979

80. Ray Martin - Blue tango + Bell of the ball (COLUMBIA) 81. Revelino - Step on high (MUSIDISC)

82. Rod Bernard - This should go on forever

83. Roshell Anderson - The grapevine will lie sometimes + Such a beautiful thing (CONTEMPO) 1974

84. Roy Head - Treat her right + So long, my love (VOCALION) 1965

85. Sam & Dave - I can't stand up for falling down + Soothe me (STAX)

86. Sasha Caro - Grade 3 section 2 + Little maid's song (DECCA) 1967

87. Scrugg - Will the real Geraldine please stand up and be countered + Only George' (PIE) 1969

88. Sheena Easton - 9 to 5 + Moody (EMI) 1980 2x Copies

90. Sipho Bhengu - Tickey dopies + I saluti (INKONKONI) 1971

91. Soledad Brothers - Sugar & spice + Johnny's death letter, with Jack White (ITALY RECORDS)

92. Some Chicken - New religion + Blood on the wall (RAW RECORDS) 1977 2x copies

94. Spit Out - O from I + Tan + Rot'n'roll' (MA FROG RECORDS) 1996

95. Stanley Winston - No more ghettos in America + It's alright (JEWEL)

96. Status Quo - Down down (VERTIGO) 1974

97. Super Sister - No tree will grow + She was naked (DANDELION) 1971

98. The Beatles - Come together + Octopus's garden + Something (foreign pressing, country unknown)

99. The Big Three - You've gotta keep her under hand + If you ever change your mind (DECCA) 1964

100. The Buzzcocks - Ever fallen in love (UNITED ARTISTS) 1978

101. The Factory - Path through the forest + Gone (MGM) 1968

102. The Galactic Symposium - Y.M.C.A + Money (VAGUE RECORDS) 1978

103. The Legion of Super-Heroes - The great name dropper part 1 + The great name dropper part 2 (AMY RECORDS)

104. The Mark Four - Hurt me if you will + I'm leaving (DECCA) 1965

105. The Mighty Avengers - So much in love + Something they say (DECCA) 1964

106. The Misunderstood - I can take you to the sun + Who do you love (FONTANA) 1966

107. The Move - I can hear the grass grow + Wave the flag and stop the train (DERAM) 1967

108. The Negatives - Love is not real + Stakeout (LOOK) 1979

109. The Nightcaps - Wine wine wine + Nightcap rock (MUSICOR)

110. The Ramrods - Zig zag + Riders in the sky (LONDON AMERICAN) 1960

111. The Smoke - My friend Jack + We can take it (COLUMBIA) 1966

112. The Squirrels - Oz on 45 + Alone again (POPLLAMA PROD) 1988

113. The Undertones - Teenage kicks (GOOD VIBRATIONS RECORDS) 1978 3x copies

116. The Upholsterers - Makers of high grade suites (SYMPATHY FOR THE RECORD INDUSTRY)

117. The Upsetters - Bucky skank + Yucky skank (DOWN TOWN)

118. The Upsetters - Key card + Domino game (DL INTERNATIONAL)

119. The Users - Sick on you + I'm in love with today (RAW RECORDS) 1977 2x copies

121. The Versalites - Cutting rasor + Black belt Jones (DL INTERNATIONAL) 122. The White Stripes - Lafayette blues + Sugar never tasted so good (ITALY Records)

123. The White Stripes - Party of special things to do + China pig + Ashtray heart (SUB POP)

124. The White Stripes - Merry Christmas from.... (XL)

125. The White Stripes - It takes two, baby + Fell in love with a girl (SYMPATHY FOR THE RECORD COMPANY)

126. The White Stripes - Dead leaves and the dirty ground (XL) 2001

127. The White Stripes - Hand springs (EXTRA BALL RECORDS)

128. The White Stripes - Hotel Yorba (XL) 2001

129. The White Stripes - Lord, send me an angel (SYMPATHY FOR THE RECORD INDUSTRY) 2x copies

131. The White Stripes - Hello operator + Jolene (SYMPATHY FOR THE RECORD INDUSTRY) 2000

132. The White Stripes - The big three killed my baby (SYMPATHY FOR THE RECORD INDUSTRY) 2x copies

134. The Henchmen featuring Jack White - Some other guy + Psycho daisies (ITALY RECORDS)

135. 2 Star Tabernacle - Ramblin man' (BLOODSHOT RECORDS) 1998 cover photo by Jack White

136. The Wildbunch - Danger - Jack White backing vocals (FLYING BOMB)

137. Surprise Package vol 2 featuring White Stripes, Rocket 455 and the Blowtops (FLYING BOMB)

138. Surprise Package vol 3 featuring The Real Pills, MHz, The Dirtbombs (FLYING BOMB)

139. Travis Wammack - Fire fly + Scratchy (ARA) 140. XL-Capris - My city of Sydney + Dead bugies (AXLE)

141. Yami Bolo - Richer than Cory (JAMAICA INTERNATIONAL)

142. Yardbirds - Happenings ten years time ago + Psycho diaries (COLUMBIA) 1966 -->

 * I've added a reference to this (with two relevant links) in the article. I suspect that there are more than a few performers and/or recordings in this list that deserve articles and lack them: The Squirrels would head my personal list among the missing, I'll start that one. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

 * I added an article John Peel's Record Box. Now I need some support concerning the description, links, years and so on. Thank you very much! Simplicius (talk) 14:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Removal of image
Where did the BBC request we remove the image on the article? Why? AllanHainey 13:17, 3 November 2005 (UTC) I work there so I'd be interested in seeing the request. It does sound unlikely. Are we sure it was actually from the BBC ? Jem 20:30, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

 * From Special:Undelete/Image:John_Peel.jpg it seems that User:Zerbey, the original uploader, contacted them for permission, then tagged it for speedy delete when they said no. He had written a fair use raionale, though fair use is undermined by the fact that there are likely to be free alternatives. So... does anyone have a photograph of John that they have taken themselves? --rbrwr± 22:03, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

 * BTW: image still exists at he: --rbrwr

cleanup
I added the cleanup-tag since there are some style issues in the article. Album names should be in italics, song names in "quotation marks" and band names just plain. (See BBC career section for most errors.) Since I am a little short on time and the article is quite long, I hope you can assist me with this task. Thanks.. --Johnnyw 16:10, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I believe this has all been dealt with. I've removed the tags. If you see anything still wrong, feel more than free to fix it. - Jmabel | Talk 04:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Addition of material on early UK career
I've added some stuff on Peel's early UK career - the Radio London/Perfumed Garden era & his early years on Radio One, especially the "Night Ride" show which seems to be almost forgotten. Not only is this the Peel period which means most to me, it's the time he never got round to covering in his autobiography - so there is a lack of info on it at present. I've also added a link to the Radio London website (showing his Perfumed Garden columns from IT) & added Robert Chapman's study of pirate radio, "Selling the Sixties", to the bibliography. Hope people find it interesting.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.146.30.196 (talk • contribs) 8 April 2006.

Not sure what this sentence is meant to mean
"When checking into hotels in the early Peel used a series of names from Channel Nine News section of the BBC television comedy series The Fast Show including Butros Butros Gali and Chris Waddle."

in the early Peel? I thought "years" but the fast show reference implies it was within the last 10 years.

--Andrewcrosby 09:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Given the reference to the Fast Show, I'd say "early 1990s". --duncan 11:40, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

The fast show started in 1994. Peel championed it in his Radio Times column, a fact that Paul Whitehouse expressed gratitude for on JP's This Is Your Life.

Mid-1990s is therefore more like it.

Bike accident in the 80's
Sometime in the 80's, I think, John had an accident riding his bike to work. He had a head injury and when he described the symptoms he was experiencing a doctor who happened to be listening rang in, advising him to go to A&E and have it checked, which he did. Turned out to be being safe rather than sorry but I only vaguely recall this - anyone out there know more? Britmax 12:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, in his autobiography he talks about it (pp85-86). He doesn't give an exact date for when, but in p88 he states that it "occured around the tie of the Star Wars film, Return of the Jedi". Beanrobot (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I remember listening to his show when he spoke about this accident and the advice from the doctor. I recall he then played the Fall's The Man Whose Head Expanded. Quality. 82.42.126.68 (talk) 11:58, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Beginning of British career
Reverted part of the edit by 70.51.150.223, changing T. Rex back to Tyrannosaurus Rex. They didn't abbreviate their name until 1970; this section talks about Peel's career in 1967, so should refer to them by the name they had at the time. Just like we wouldn't say 'Jefferson Starship' instead of 'Jefferson Airplane', for the same period. --duncan 19:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Odd removal
Some time in the last ten weeks, the following was removed:

 * Later, on his BBC programmes, he was to champion esoteric performers like Ron Geesin and John Fahey, and break new British bands like Family and Fairport Convention, Groundhogs, and Led Zeppelin. His shows influenced the rise of most subsequent styles of rock music. But, even if he became progressively disillusioned with hippy idealism as the 1970s wore on, the personal style he pioneered on the Perfumed Garden remained, winning him the affection of subsequent generations of listeners.

 * Wonderful Radio London closed on August 14, 1967 at 3pm just before the Marine Broadcasting Offences Act became law at midnight. The new law made the offshore broadcasting illegal for British citizens serving as advertisers, suppliers, news-readers and DJs.

There is a POV phrase or two that might be reworded, but basically this strikes me as sound. Is there any reason this was removed from the article? - Jmabel | Talk 19:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Cosmopolitan Readers' Poll
"In that year he was also voted 47th in a Cosmopolitan readers' poll."

47th what? Most bearded Liverpudlian? Best person to live in Suffolk?? -- Dupont Circle 11:50, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

The poll in question was the Top 50 Most Lovable Men in the World, as mentioned in a Julie Burchill article in the Guardian in 1998. I've added this to the article, for what it's worth. MFlet1 21:12, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

The man
"His avant-garde musical tastes brought him into conflict with other more conservative DJs at the BBC such as Tony Blackburn and Simon Bates." - I liked John Peel alot before reading this article, but now I believe he is god! Top marks to whoever contributed to this article - is it featured? If not, it should be - it has gone to my #1 spot just for finding out he annoyed the bejaysus out of Tony Blackburn! Bubba hotep 23:21, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

John Peel remembered on 'The World'
On Friday, October 28, 2006, 'The World' - a coproduction of the BBC and WGBH - was aired on NPR stations in the USA featuring a tribute to Peel by his son. This program with a different link announcer had originated in the UK a few weeks ago and unfortunately it reflects a total distortion of history. Peel is on his way to becoming a Patron Saint of Myth in Media. The Wiki article is also becoming distorted and it also contains unsupported statements about Peel's beginning on Wonderful Radio London - similar to the BBC/NPR program. Several of these issues were cleared up earlier on only to have become confused once again by turning the article into a glowing tribute fan page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.128.80.124 (talk • contribs) 28 October 2006.

 * So you are writing here to recommend what you consider a bad source? Or what? If there is information in the article that you think is wrong, please be more concrete about what you think is wrong; best of course if you can provide sources, but even if you can't it might provide someone a direction for research. - Jmabel | Talk 03:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Tractor pull
Does Tractor's 2002 appearance at Glastonbury really merit mention in an article on Peel? I would think that belonged only in the article on the band. - Jmabel | Talk 07:42, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Death date
Did he die on 25th or 26th October? His widow Sheila says in Margrave of the Marshes that it was the 26th, and presumably she should know. MFlet1 23:13, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Conspiracy theory?
Somebody added this to the article: The fact that he had died whilst visiting a South American country has fuelled speculation that he knew more about the Kennedy assassination than previously thought.

"Has fuelled speculation" among whom? And what is the source for this? In any case, what would the connection between South America and JFK be? I think I'm going to remove this. Devilgate 14:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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Autobiography
The autobiography link (Margrave of the Marshes) diverts back to this (the John Peel) page. Is this the right way to do this? Shouldn't it be an ISBN link or somesuch? -- ?

 * I read John Peel wrote only 1,500 of 100,000 words.
 * The book was completed by his wife Sheila. Simplicius (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

 * They are, IIRC, credited as joint authors. I've removed the Wlink because it looks like what's happened is someone started an article for the book but it was speedied or AfD'd, & that page was redirected here. No problem if the article gets recreated, it just deletes the redirect & it can be relinked. -- Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 20:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

God Save The Queen
The article says he played it in December 1976. I think this is wrong, since the single didn't come out until June 1977 and the Pistols never recorded a Peel session. MFlet1 11:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Music is often release on white label vinyl up to 2 years before release for DJ promo use only. I have many singles that took well over a year to make it on to the radio. Or in the case of Duck Sauce Barbara Streisand 9 YEARS!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.228.182 (talk) 09:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

 * That mention seems to have gone now - I wonder if it was actually talking about "Anarchy in the UK", which was released in November 1976. According to the GStQ article it was recorded in October 76 and March 77. -- Beardo (talk) 10:32, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Categorizing the Peel Sessions albums
I'm going through Category:Peel Sessions recordings, and trying to put the articles in some semblance of order. If the band is listed in the article title (even as adisambiguation), I'm sorting it by the band name. If it doesn't show on the list, I'm leaving sorted by the actual title. -Freekee (talk) 05:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Citation Request in 'Beginning of British career' section
I've just been thumbing through my copy of Margrave of the Marshes, and found the page on which John discusses the Beckenham Arts Lab. No reference is made in the book's index, and the only reference I can find to 'the Arts Labs generally' is on page 402 of the first [hardback] edition of this [semi] autobiography [ISBN 0593 052528]. It is in the book's Appendix, which is essentially an outline of what the proposed book would contain. The quote in full is as follows:

"'Letters from David Bowie scrounging money for wait for it wait for it... the Beckenham Arts Lab. Reflections on Arts Labs generally, the limitless quantities of bullshit engendered therein and the effect of same - the deadening effect of same - on Eastern European music (incorporating the Silly Hat theory of advanced pop criticism).'"

I have no idea what this 'deadening effect on Eastern European music' might have consisted of, nor what the Silly Hat theory was or is... However, this one reference does in fact seem to verify the original author's assertion that Peely was indeed 'very critical' of the movement. If a citation is to be added, how would one go about it? I've only ever added anything to the Wiki once, and that contribution was repeatedly removed [a personal obituary of Lord Jago Eliot, a very close friend who had died the day before, and the experience of this has left me somewhat squeamish about contributing anything further...] Also given the references are numbered, would an insertion entail renumbering all the others, and indeed their numbers in the body text itself? help...? Adexxx (talk) 17:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Process first: adding in a new reference will automatically fix the numbering, so that's not a problem. Certainly, if they are Peel's words "limitless quantities of bullshit" can certainly be cited as criticism. Best way of referencing it so use the template in the construct. I've left a copy of the template below as a temporary measure so you can fill it in & paste it into the article. -- Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 17:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

List of shows
Please help. It is just a start. Thank you very much! - Simplicius, Feb 2008

split early Radio 1 into Top Gear (sole presenter form 1968) & eponymous show 1975 onwards. -- Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 16:32, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Didn't play industrial?
There is a line in this page that says John 'rarely, if ever, gave airtime to industrial music'. However, one only has to go and look at the list of peel sessions on wikipedia, to find 'Atari Teenage Riot', 'Caberet Voltaire', 'Front 242', 'Laibach', 'Leather Nun' and 'Ministry'. These bands were not merely played on his show, but actually came in to do a peel session, presumably other industrial bands were played too.

I strongly suspect that John played more industrial than any other Radio 1 DJ at the time he was broadcasting, so this comment seems misleading to me?

Colum

Metacosm (talk) 15:18, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

 * Yes, and Einstürzende Neubauten were also one of his favourites if I remember rightly. I think I will remove that sentence.  MFlet1 (talk) 23:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Work towards GA
This article looks good and I think it should be nominated for GA. Currently it lacks citations however; I've started adding them from one source but it will be best if others could add even just one from time to time using other sources. As an aside, I notice in the talk page header for WikiProject BBC, it reads "??? 	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale" which I find surprising as I expected it to be pretty important. Maybe someone familiar with the wikiproject can check this out? PL290 (talk) 14:04, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I was thinking of including the refimprove template as there it is still lacking too many citations. Atamata (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:54, 18 March 2010 (UTC).

Peel in the USSR
Can anyone help me with any information or references concerning the subject in question? The same request in ru_wiki posted 9 months ago still hangs there unanswered. I remember his fascinating report aired in a 3-part series by the BBC World Service (was it included in his domestic programme, I wonder?) but cannot find a single mention of the event in the Internet. -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't recall reading about it in Margrave of the Marshes, but it's been a while since I read it. What year would it have been? – B.hotep •talk• 10:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure, but judging by the music he played, probably, 1987. For Peel it was a harrowing experience: he was hunting for some kind of hidden treasures and felt vexed with the obvious lack of any. Later I sent him a postcard with - well, all of the right thanks and praizes, but still a bit critical. I remember using the phraze 'You've met all of the wrong people over here' - which was only half true: a) he wasn't choosing the people he was meeting, b) there was not much of the 'right people' either. Later I felt sorry for this bit of - salt for the wound, as it were. But still I think he knew what I meant and was grateful for - at least, some reaction. For he replied (on the air) in the most jovial manner: "That's what my job is about, Vladimir: meeting all of them wrong people!" Which was a perfect one-liner of a reply, of course. Still, this Moscow/Leningrad visit was a frustrating experience for him and that was probably the reason why he failed to mention it in the book. -- Evermore2 (talk) 10:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In "the olivetti chronicles" (p. 59 and p. 318 f.) John mentions attending a concert in Moscow, feat. Zvuki Mu, in 1988. --Arno Matthias (talk) 08:32, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, at least the year is fixed. Looks like his visit sadly preceded the two genuine underground gems, N.O.M. and Kolibri's rise to prominence. - Evermore2 (talk) 15:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Legacy
Can we add the things John has influenced AFTER his death?

In Ldn people are saying 'Keep your ears John Peeled' as a way to communicate the need to 'listen for something new' the legacy of JP lives on in the hearts and minds of millions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.79.228.182 (talk) 08:57, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Peel's "seismographic" handwriting style
I wonder why is this in the Favourite Music section? Or, for that matter, why is it in the article at all? 93.145.140.164 (talk) 20:16, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Removed. Uniplex (talk) 13:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Mopsie Beans ?
This edit - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Peel&diff=prev&oldid=435423574 - introduced a comment about Mopsie Beans with a strange reference. It looks doubtful to me. -- Beardo (talk) 21:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

How old was his first wife Shirley Anne Milburn when they married?
The article states- ''While in Dallas, in 1965, he married his first wife, Shirley Anne Milburn, then aged 15, in what Peel later described as a "mutual defence pact". The marriage was never happy and although she accompanied Peel back to Britain in 1967, they were soon separated. The divorce became final in 1973. Shirley Anne Milburn later took her own life.''

the reference only seems to state that she was fifteen when they met Peel, John; Sheila Ravenscroft (2005). Margrave of the Marshes. London: Bantam Press. pp. 183–4, 211–12, 178, 228–9, passim. ISBN 0-593-05252-8.

where as another ref I've got states she was sixteen on the marriage date 26 Sept, 1965 Healey, Micheal; John Peel - A life in Music (2004). pp. 32-33 ISBN 1-84317-151-1

Can anyone confirm this. Also it would be interesting to know if the marriage was after or before both her parents died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonpatterns (talk • contribs) 21:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * There is a detailed article on Milburn in the Mail on Sunday, 31 October 2004. It gives her date of birth as 16 February 1949 and marriage to Peel as 26 September 1965 at Durant in Oklahoma: So she is over 16 when she marries. This marriage date also means she marries after her parent's deaths: Jesse Levi Milburn died in a car accident on 6 February 1965, and her mother, Yvonne Francis, Dewey, died a few months later from a heart attack, on 16 June 1965. The article also states she died in 1987 after choking on a chicken bone i.e. not suicide (although there was one previous suicide attempt - it is fairly tragic life story). The author of the article, Sharon Churcher, speaks to family members so it appears well-sourced. I would happily update the factual elements of that section (Personal life), however, I am hesitant to do so given the Mail on Sunday source (I am fairly new to Wikipedia so wanted to ask here first). Would you consider this article (in the Mail on Sunday) a reliable source? The reference is here: (I could only find the article in ProQuest and not on the Web) Gricharduk (talk) 07:11, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The reliability of the Mail on Sunday has been discussed recently here, and the conclusion was :"...there is a clear and substantial consensus that the source is generally unreliable, and a slightly narrower consensus that the source should be deprecated. To the extent that the source is in use in articles for the support of assertions, editors should make reasonable efforts to find an alternate source for that assertion when removing this source." Sources that "appear to be" well-sourced are, in the case of the Mail and its associates, often not.  So, I would not use it as a source - but, personally, I would have no problem with a wording that said something like: "An article in the Mail on Sunday claimed that......,  but this has not been verified".  Others would object to that approach, I'm sure.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:15, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Just to note that both The Guardian and The Independent claim that Milburn was 15 when they married, as do The Herald and the Daily Mail. The marriage (and the death of Milburn's parents soon after), is covered on pages 211-212 of Margrave of the Marshes: book preview link here. It says she was 15 when they met, but does not give a date or age for the marriage. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:58, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Okay noted and I am glad I asked here first. Thank you for the book link and thank you both very much for your very clear and quick answers - it is appreciated. Gricharduk (talk) 10:11, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The Texas Birth Index (available online via Ancestry.com) confirms her birth date as 16 Feb 1949. Her marriage to Ravenscroft/Peel does not seem to be on that site, but if it was after Feb 1965 it seems that she was 16.  The allegation that she was 15 when she married comes from Julie Burchill... who is probably not best known for her commitment to the truth.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:16, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

BBC, Jimmy Saville, Gary Glitter & John Peel
Can someone add in a section on the recent controversy over Jimmy Saville, John Peel and Gary Glitter. A well written section, that is fair and balanced would be helpful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.167.121.131 (talk) 21:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * What sources do you have that refer to Peel? Ghmyrtle (talk) 21:30, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

How about http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2216453/John-Peel-got-pregnant-I-15-Woman-claims-month-affair-DJ.html?ito=feeds-newsxml--Dingowasher (talk) 21:47, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

It's "Savile" not "Saville" and what RECENT controversy over Gary Glitter? Neither are mentioned in that source in any case. Kmitch87 (talk) 12:13, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

This suggestion seems a bit premature. Besides which, Glitter was a pop star, not part of the DJ set at the BBC. Peel has had one allegation made against him (of an "affair" with a 15-year-old http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19933274), Saville a string of allegations of abuse and molestation. It's a little too soon to be linking them. David (talk) 19:29, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

 * It seems to be more than a single allegation (highlighted as far back as 1999, and quoting an interview Peel himself gave ten years before that): http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/1999/jan/23/weekend.julieburchill, and they are being linked, at least as part of the culture of the time: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/12/evil-jimmy-savile-not-alone Ghughesarch (talk) 20:51, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Any mention of Savile or Paul Raven in context with a 'one-off' (although illegal) relationship that Peel had is entirely inappropriate - this isn't scholarly; it is non-contextual and smacks of prurience. Savile and Raven were/are recidivist sexual predators of minors. Even if Peel took advantage, knowingly, of a girl by using his celebrity status, there is not, as yet, any accusation that he did so against her will or as an unexpected molestation or that he did so again, with others, on a habitual basis. The author is using the page irresponsibly - the comment is redolent of 'witch-hunting', self-righteousness and self-promotion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gr1bble8s (talk • contribs) 08:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

peel is hardly comparible to savile or glitter bbc were trying to throw peel under the bus to divert from their huge establishment scandal 86.148.206.156 (talk) 06:54, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Note from Jimmy Savile allegations
I was asked to notify here with this from Talk:Jimmy Savile child sexual abuse allegations.

There are now media reports alleging that John Peel had an affair with a 15-year-old girl, reports that seems to involve a terminated pregnancy, unprotected sex shortly after boasting on-air of suffering from a venereal disease and a postcard from the late 1990s which does nothing at all to clear his name. Source The BBC has now been forced into a major rethink on its decision to name a new wing of Broadcasting House after Peel. Source How does Wikipedia deal with this latest development? --86.40.110.74 (talk) 05:08, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Both these points - the alleged relationship, and the naming of the BBC building - have now been incorporated into the article, with a link to the Jimmy Savile child sexual abuse allegations. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:38, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
 * PS: So far as I can see, she does not claim that the pregnancy was the result of sex with Peel - we don't know what other partners she had.  The headline says that she was pregnant because of Peel, but her words in the article do not necessarily say that.   I won't revert again, but the story is not as clear-cut as it first appears, and I think the headline writer has over-interpreted the material.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 11:51, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

 * Can anyone give a legitimate reason for mentioning the Savile allegations at all in this article? AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:35, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

 * There has been an attempt at moral equivalence between Peel, Glitter and Savile. However, the woman who had an alleged relationship with Peel admits that it was consensual and lasted three months, that she asked him to appear at the opening of her new bar, and she approached the newspapers over it, so attempts at moral outrage should be somewhat muted. There is some indirect relevance because the BBC is now in crisis management mode.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 15:55, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

ianmacm implies that the relationship Peel had was consensual. That was the case but the relationship was illegal. Interestingly Bill Wyman had a relationship with Mandy Smith which was consensual and resulted in marriage. Mandy Smith was 13 when the relationship began. No criminal proceedings appear to be in progress against Mr Wyman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.11.5 (talk) 14:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

 * The possible renaming of the BBC Peel Wing is worth stating, and the explanation for that is, as IanMacm says, because the BBC is panicking over Savile and the wider implications. But I don't mind greatly if the link to the Savile article is removed.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:21, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't dismiss all allegations against Peel, but some stories may be rather growing in the telling. Peel did mention on-air once that he had been treated for VD in the past, but I don't think he "boasted" about it, some people respected his courage. I remember this was covered in a magazine article, where he said that afterwards he had kids writing to him asking about the symptoms. However I assume that his affair was after he was cured, and unprotected sex was fairly normal until AIDS came along in the 1980s. PatGallacher (talk) 15:14, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

 * A woman, who told a tabloid newspaper she had a relationship with a BBC DJ when she was 15, says she now bitterly regrets going public was in the news. She denies that it was abuse, and the rest of the report paints a somewhat disturbing picture of 1960s groupie culture.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 12:44, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

 * There have been no further updates re the renaming of the Peel Wing since last October, and in fact the BBC's website still refers to the building as the Peel Wing. Also the BBC sponsored the 2012 John Peel lecture only a few weeks after the story surfaced.  Consequently I would say he seems to be in the clear and we should remove the sentence that refers to the renaming, or at the very least acknowledge that no decision appears to have been taken.  MFlet1 (talk) 11:06, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Atheist?
Of course he will not be remebered as an ardent believer, but are there any reference supporting his classification as "atheist"?

The article states that, among others, "Peel said he would like to be remembered with a gospel song. He stated that the final record he would play would be the Rev C. L. Franklin's sermon "Dry Bones in The Valley".

This really does not sound like Dawkins&Co. Or are there any other explicit quotes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GinoBartali (talk • contribs) 10:24, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

 * In this interview, he was asked the question "Would you describe yourself as agnostic or atheist?" with "I don't know really... My own creed, such as it is, is the very obvious one of 'Do as you would be done by.'". He also says he enjoys visiting churches because "although I don't believe in the things that the people who built them believe in, I'm impressed by the intensity of their beliefs".   On that basis, personally, I'd describe him as a humanist rather than either atheist or agnostic.  Obviously, there's absolutely no reason why someone who appreciates gospel music (or the intensity of a sermon) needs to have any belief that the words are actually true.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:40, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That last is true of any song, really. And Peel, who was an unparalleled appreciator of music, would be a good judge of that. 2.28.151.246 (talk) 23:01, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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Affair
This seems to be missing. Agreed he's no Savile but I don't think we can just ignore it given the sources: Philafrenzy (talk) 13:54, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/bbc/9603959/John-Peel-got-15-year-old-pregnant-after-meeting-at-Black-Sabbath-concert-claims-woman.html
 * http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/bbc-to-erect-john-peel-plaque-at-hq-9796624.html
 * http://www.theguardian.com/media/2012/oct/12/jimmy-savile-john-peel
 * http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/10/12/john-peel-jimmy-savile-bbc_n_1960523.html
 * http://metro.co.uk/2012/10/13/bbc-could-rename-peel-wing-after-claims-of-affair-with-15-year-old-girl-599752/
 * These were unverified claims made in 2012. I don't see a good reason to include them.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 15:20, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The basic facts don't seem to be in dispute but it is hard to prove anything over such a length of time.-- ♦Ian Ma c  M♦  (talk to me) 16:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * The man is dead so I think we can state the matter fairly briefly as an unproven matter but one that has been widely reported in reliable sources? Philafrenzy (talk) 16:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * It's interesting that the woman involved (who I won't name even though it is easily available) says that nothing happened that she did not want to do at the time. Considering the huge media coverage of Adam Johnson (footballer), this has to be given some consideration. As the BBC news video points out, plenty of girls under 16 were sexually active in the 1960s. The BBC's position is that it would "reconsider" the name of the John Peel Wing if the allegations were proven, but as of March 2016, it looks as though the BBC has not done this. The sourcing is a bit vague.-- ♦Ian Ma c M♦  (talk to me) 16:34, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
 * Quite agree. Except that I'm pretty sure it wasn't just the 1960s. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 20:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

List of shows
John Peel brought me into a better mood than my psychotherapist could. It is a pity that the list of shows is not completed yet. -- SXXXB (talk) 12:01, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

'The Pig'
I remember Andy Kershaw saying on air once that John referred to Sheila as 'The Pig' not in a derogatory way but because when she laughed she tended to snort like a pig. Can anyone find a citable source for this? TristramBrelstaff (talk) 19:02, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

 * Sure. Page 188 of Margrave of the Marshes, Sheila says: "Beautiful Peter didn't appear to mind that John referred to the house they shared as 'Peel Acres' any more than I minded John christening me 'the Pig' right from the beginning of our relationship, on account of my snorting laugh. From our earlier days together, John referred to me as Pig, and his readers and listeners got to know me as that too." Martinevans123 (talk) 19:35, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Might be a good idea to add something. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:22, 5 July 2022 (UTC)

Sexual abuse accusations
I read the article. I didn't read a single "accusation of sexual abuse". So why is that section in this article? Surely in order for someone to be "accused" of sexual abuse, there needs to be... an accusation. There have been none. Section should be deleted/mothballed until such accusations are actually made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.184.110.130 (talk) 19:49, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
 * He was accused by one woman posthumously in 2012, the other information in that section are his own actions and admissions of abusive conduct which were scrutinised in the media afterwards. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 04:33, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

The accusation that Peel ran a "Schoolgirl of the year competition" should be removed as there is no proof to substantiate Burchill's original allegation. Peel once dressed as a schoolgirl for a calendar for Sounds, the music paper. The picture caption was "Schoolgirl of the Year." This is how the rumour got started. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deselby70 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * It's not only mentioned in the Burchill Guardian article but one of The Independent references too. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 21:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 * The Independent article comes after the Burchill article, which was the original source of the allegation. It is likely the source of the Independent allegation, as there is no evidence before the Burchill piece to support the allegation, and certainly no contemporary evidence from the 1970's. Deselby70 (talk) 15:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Not to reduce any behaviour that is accused/attributed to Peel, but Burchills 'Rakes Progress' has been regularly denounced as an unreliable hit-piece. Burchill also attacked Peel for supposedly only playing 'white music' (and the inplication of being 'a bit racist', yet Peel championed Jamaican reggae/roots back in the 70s, and World Music, through to dancehall and jungle in the 90s. Burchill is not a reliable source for such things as we've seen many times since Journeytounconsciousness (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I find it hard to believe that Burchill would invent quotes where Peel admitted to sexually abusing girls, and I don't see any source accusing her of that. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 19:45, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I've clarified the source for Peel's comments and expanded the quote from Burchill's article to give more context. If this was a BLP, the article would need more contemporary RS to support the allegations BLP:CRIME, WP:BLPSOURCE. The comments Birchall says that Peel made in 1975 seem to have been part of an interview. Without the full original source we don't have the context they were made in. Peel's use of sarcasm is well known. The article currently doesn't include any RS that Peel admitted to allegations of sexual abuse that were put to him. WP:CONTENTIOUS, WP:NPOV. IndigoBeach (talk) 11:57, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

I've edited the article to remove "serial sexual abuser" in wikivoice from the lead section because this language isn't verified in the cited RS. I've also updated the sexual abuse allegation section for the same reason, and because the RS for Peel's "admission" failed verification WP:RGW; WP:EXCEPTIONAL. IndigoBeach (talk) 15:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

Age of Shirley Anne Milburn
"While residing in Dallas, Texas, in 1965, he married his first wife, Shirley Anne Milburn, then aged 16"

"His first marriage to Shirley Anne Milburn in 1965 has been cited as an example of misconduct as she was 15 years old when they wed"

Which is it? 84.92.43.164 (talk) 00:14, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

 * This is discussed further up this page. As I wrote then: The Texas Birth Index (available online via Ancestry.com) confirms her birth date as 16 Feb 1949. Her marriage to Ravenscroft/Peel does not seem to be on that site, but if it was after Feb 1965 it seems that she was 16.  The allegation that she was 15 when she married comes from Julie Burchill... who is probably not best known for her commitment to the truth.   .... and indeed says in her piece, "I've always loathed John Peel...".   Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

 * The article currently cites an interview from The Herald, in which Peel says the following: "Both her parents died within a month of each other and so we got married more as a mutual defence pact than anything else, really. I don't really like talking about it, to be honest, but it was an incredibly sad time. She had a shit time. I'm sure I wasn't blameless. She was just as f-ed-up as any 15- year-old who'd just lost her parents would be, and married some geezer from another planet." AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:25, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

circular reference removed: Far Out Magazine via change.org petition
I've replaced this Far Out Magazine reference [] because it's a circular reference via the change.org petition (dated 30 June 2022, unable to include link to it here because the site is blacklisted), which had copied the allegations from this article (version 27 June 2022 []), one of which fails verification (now tagged) WP:CIRCULAR, WP:UGC. Adding a comment here to include the diff and links. IndigoBeach (talk) 10:03, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Who's Biryani?
There are reliable sources on both sides suggesting that Biryani that launched Billy B's career was brought to the studios by billy himself or the publishers without Billy.

Billy himself has stated it was him with publisher Jeff in some places, in other places that it was him on his own, and yet the source used to say it was only the publishers is his official biography. this needs looking into. DParkinson1 (talk) 21:20, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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Villa Farnese

The Villa Farnese, also known as Villa Caprarola, is a pentagonal mansion in the town of Caprarola in the province of Viterbo, Northern Lazio, Italy, approximately 50 km north-west of Rome, originally commissioned and owned by the House of Farnese. A property of the Republic of Italy, Villa Farnese is run by the Polo Museale del Lazio. This villa is not to be confused with two similarly-named properties of the family, the Palazzo Farnese and the Villa Farnesina, both in Rome.

The Villa Farnese is situated directly above the town of Caprarola and dominates its surroundings. It is a massive Renaissance and Mannerist construction, opening to the Monte Cimini, a range of densely wooded volcanic hills. It is built on a five-sided plan in reddish gold stone; buttresses support the upper floors. As a centerpiece of the vast Farnese holdings, Caprarola was always an expression of Farnese power, rather than a villa in the more usual agricultural or pleasure senses.

History

In 1504, Cardinal Alessandro Farnese, the future Pope Paul III, acquired the estate at Caprarola. He had designs made for a fortified castle or rocca by the architects Antonio da Sangallo the Younger and Baldassare Peruzzi. Surviving plan drawings by Peruzzi show a pentagonal arrangement with each face of the pentagon canted inwards towards its center, to permit raking fire upon a would-be scaling force, both from the center and from the projecting bastions that advance from each corner angle of the fortress. Peruzzi's plan also shows a central pentagonal courtyard and it is likely that the later development of the circular central court was also determined by the necessities of the pentagonal plan. The pentagonal fortress foundations, constructed probably between 1515 and 1530, became the base upon which the present villa sits; so the overall form of the villa was predetermined by the rocca foundations.

Subsequently, Cardinal Alessandro Farnese, a grandson of Pope Paul III, and a man who was known for promoting his family's interests, planned to turn this partly constructed fortified edifice into a villa or country house. In 1556, he commissioned Giacomo Barozzi da Vignola as his architect, building work commenced in 1559 and Vignola continued to work on the villa at Caprarola until his death in 1573. Farnese was a courteous man of letters; however, the Farnese family as a whole became unpopular with the following pope, Julius III, and, accordingly, Alessandro Farnese decided it would be politic to retire from the Vatican for a period. He therefore selected Caprarola on the family holding of Ronciglione, being both near and yet far enough from Rome as the ideal place to build a country house.

Design

The villa is one of the finest examples of Renaissance architecture. Ornament is used sparingly to achieve proportion and harmony. Thus while the villa dominates the surroundings, its severe design also complements the site. This particular style, known today as Mannerism, was a reaction to the earlier High Renaissance designs of twenty years earlier.

Vignola, the architect chosen for this difficult and inhospitable site, had recently proved his mettle in designing Villa Giulia on the outskirts of Rome for the preceding pope, Julius III. Vignola in his youth had been heavily influenced by Michelangelo. For the villa at Caprarola, his plans as built were for a pentagon constructed around a circular colonnaded courtyard. In the galleried court, paired Ionic columns flank niches containing busts of the Roman Emperors, above a rusticated arcade, a reworking of Bramante's scheme for the "House of Raphael", in the Borgo rione, Rome. A further Bramantesque detail is the entablature that breaks forward over the columns, linking them above, while they stand on separate bases. The interior loggia formed by the arcade is frescoed with Raphaelesque grotesques, in the manner of the Vatican Logge. The gallery and upper floors were reached by five spiral staircases around the courtyard: the most important of these is the Scala Regia ("Royal Stairs") rising through the principal floors.

Approach and entrance
The approach to the Villa Farnese is from the town's main street, which is centred on the villa, to a piazza from which stairs ascend to a series of terraces beginning with the subterranean basement excavated from the tuff, surrounded by steep curving steps leading to the terrace above. This basement floor in the foundations, which functioned as a carriage entrance in inclement weather, features a massive central column with a series of buttresses and retaining walls; on the exterior, large heavily grilled doors in the rusticated walls appear to lead into the guardrooms of a fortress, while above them a curved balustraded external double stairway leads to the terrace above. This in turn has a formal double staircase to the principal entrance on the Piano dei Prelati floor which is accessed from the broad terrace. This bastion-like floor, which appears in the elevation as a second ground floor, is rusticated, the main door a severe arch flanked by three windows on each side. The facade at this level is terminated by massive solid corner projections.

Above this is the double-height piano nobile, where five huge arched windows incongruously dominate the facade over the front door; above this sit a further two floors for housing gentlefolk with servants above them, the numerous windows divided on the exterior by rusticated pilasters in dressed stone.

Interiors
The villa's interiors are arranged over five floors, each floor designed for a different function. The main rooms are located on the first floor or piano nobile, where a large central loggia (now glazed in) looks down over the town, its main street and the surrounding countryside. This hall is known as the Room of Hercules on account of its fresco decorations, and was used as a summer dining hall. It has a grotto-like fountain with sculpture at one end. To either side of the loggia are two circular rooms: one is the chapel, the other accommodates the principal staircase or Scala Regia, a graceful spiral of steps supported by pairs of Ionic columns rising up through three floors and frescoed by Antonio Tempesta.

The two grand apartments at first floor level are symmetrically-matched in plan and complete the remaining enclosure of the courtyard. Each has a series of five rooms with state rooms, which begin with the largest reception hall nearest the entrance and proceed, with increasing intimacy and decreased size, to a bedroom, wardrobe and studiolo at the northern end; an ordered suite that would become standardized in the 17th century as the Baroque state apartment. The different orientations of these two apartments allows for a seasonal differentiation; the east, or summer apartment is associated with the active life, the west, or winter range with the contemplative life. The scrupulous symmetrical balance of the two apartments is carried through by their matching parterre gardens, each reached by a bridge across the moat and cut into the hillslope.

The suites are famous for their Mannerist frescoes. The iconographic program of frescoes expressing the glory of the Farnese was worked out by the humanists in Farnese's court, notably his secretary, Annibale Caro; The fresco cycles portray the exploits of Alexander the Great, and of course of the Farnese themselves: in the Sala dei Fasti Farnesiani (the Room of Farnese Deeds), decorated by the brothers Taddeo and Federico Zuccari, the Farnese are depicted at all their most glorious moments, from floor to coffered ceiling. Other artists employed in fresco decoration include Giacomo Zanguidi (il Bertoia), Raffaellino da Reggio, Antonio Tempesta, Giacomo del Duca, and Giovanni De Vecchi. The Flemish painters Joos van Winghe and Bartholomaeus Spranger assisted il Bertoia with the decorations in the rooms he had been commissioned to finish.

Among the frescoed subjects of the contemplative winter suite is the famous "Room of the World Map" or Sala del Mappamondo, displaying the whole known world as it was in 1574 when the frescoes were completed. Above, the frescoed vault depicts the celestial spheres and the constellations of the zodiac.

Gardens
The gardens of the villa are as impressive as the building itself, a significant example of the Italian Renaissance garden period. The villa's fortress theme is carried through by a surrounding moat and three drawbridges. Two facades of the pentagonal arrangement face the two gardens cut into the hill; each garden is accessed across the moat by a drawbridge from the apartments on the piano nobile and each is a parterre garden of box topiary with fountains. A grotto-like theatre was once here. A walk through the chestnut woods beyond, leads to the giardino segreto, or secret garden, with its well-known casino.

The Casino
The Casino, a small habitable summerhouse with two loggie for al fresco dining. It was built probably on designs by Giacomo del Duca, with later alterations were made to the area around the casino by the architect Girolamo Rainaldi. The casino is approached by stairs contained between heavily rusticated grotto walls, with a central catena d'acqua, a cascaded rill or 'water-staircase', which the water flows down to a stone basin. At the top of the steps and set in an oval space are large statues of two reclining river gods to either side of a large central vase fountain. Stairs built into the oval walls lead up to the parterred terrace in front of the south facade of the casino. This part of the terrace is lined by stone herms with cypress trees. To the north of the casino is a private garden which steps up slightly and accommodates roses.

Today
Alessandro Farnese died in 1589 bequeathing his estates to relations - the Farnese dukes of Parma. The Cardinal's fabulous collection was transferred eventually to Charles III of Spain in Naples. In the 19th century the villa became for a while the residence of the heir to the throne of the newly united Italy.

Elements of the villa's Renaissance gardens have influenced many estate gardens of the 19th and 20th century by landscape designers, such as Beatrix Farrand, A.E. Hanson, and Florence Yoch. 1920s gardens with a catena d'acqua include the Harold Lloyd Estate in Beverly Hills and 'Las Tejas' in Montecito, California, with the latter also having a casino in direct homage to the original at Villa Farnese.

The villa Farnese in Caprarola provided the model for the Pentagon in Washington D.C.

Today the casino and its gardens are one of the homes of the President of the Italian Republic. The empty main villa, owned by the State, is open to the public. The numerous rooms, salons and halls with their marbles and frescoes, and the architecture of the great palazzo-like villa are still as impressive and daunting as they were first intended to be.

Filmography

 * Several scenes from the TV series Medici: Masters of Florence are set in Villa Farnese.
 * Several scenes from 2003 movie Luther was filmed in Villa Farnese, featuring the central courtyard and Scala Regia.
 * Scenes of the Vinceguerra Estate in the movie The Man from U.N.C.L.E. (film) were filmed in the gardens of the Villa Farnese.

The Villa was depicted both as the interior of Papal Palace in Vatican and as Castel Gandolfo in the original Netflix movie The Two Popes.

Several major scenes were filmed at Villa Farnese’s Casino (that is “summerhouse” that is not a main villa but separate smaller building with gardens) in 2013 film Romeo and Juliet. Particularly, the loggia of casino served as Juliet’s balcony where Romeo and Juliet exchanged an oath of love; for the filming the empty loggia’s walls were decorated by artificial climbing roses on supports that Romeo used to climb up. The casino’s southern side garden staircase with water cascade ( catena d'acqua) and fountain at the bottom were the ones in the scene of Romeo and Juliet separation at dawn after their first night together.

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Szabolcs Fazakas

Szabolcs Fazakas (26 October 1947 – 31 March 2020 ) was a Hungarian politician and diplomat.

Profession
Fazakas was born in Budapest, and earned a degree of external trade in 1971, graduating from Karl Marx University of Economic Sciences (present-day Corvinus University of Budapest). He taught as an assistant lecturer there from 1971 to 1973. Earning PhD, he was employed by the Ministry of External Trade (then Ministry of Trade) between 1973 and 1990, where he worked as a rapporteur for economic relations with West Germany and East Germany, then commercial counselor at Vienna, finally Head of Department responsible for OECD affairs and relations. He served as Deputy Minister of Trade, and was also Head of the Secretariat for International Economic Relations from 1989 to 1990.

Following the transition to democracy, Fazakas joined the private sector. He functioned as regional representative of the Österreichische Industrieholding (ÖIAG) in Budapest from 1990 to 1995. Beside that, he was also Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the European Commercial Bank Limited Liability Company from 1994 to 1995.

Political career
Fazakas entered government service in the cabinet of Prime Minister Gyula Horn, when he held the position of Secretary of State for Administrative Affairs in the Ministry of Industry and Trade between 25 September 1995 and 15 July 1996. After that, he briefly served as Hungarian Ambassador to Germany from 30 August to 29 October 1996. Returning to Hungary, he functioned as Minister of Industry, Trade and Tourism from 29 October 1996 to 8 July 1998, until the 1998 parliamentary election. After the electoral defeat of the Hungarian Socialist Party (MSZP), Fazakas returned to the private sector. He was regional representative of the DaimlerChrysler automotive corporation between 1998 and 2002. He functioned as Chairman of the Board of GarAgent-Excel from 2000.

After the 2002 parliamentary election, when MSZP was able to form a government, Fazakas became a member of the National Assembly (MP) between 2002 and 2004, obtaining a mandate from the party's national list. He was a member of the Committee on Foreign Affairs. He was also delegated into the Interparliamentary Union from 2002 to 2004. He was then Member of the European Parliament (MEP) for the Hungarian Socialist Party, part of the Party of European Socialists from 2004 to 2009. On 23 July 2004, he was elected Chair of the Committee on Budgetary Control, holding the position until 30 January 2007, when he was elected one of the quaestors of the European Parliament for the second half of the term (2007–2009). His name appeared in the 6th place in the candidacy list of MSZP during the 2009 European Parliament election in Hungary, but the party gained only 4 seats, thus Fazakas lost his mandate.

Szabolcs Fazakas was elected to the European Court of Auditors on 7 May 2010, replacing Gejza Halász. During his nomination, Fidesz MEP Tamás Deutsch charged that he had voluntarily joined the Hungarian Secret Service during the communist dictatorship and worked there for more than 13 years as a secret agent, and was also involved in a suspicious arms procurement. Fazakas denied the charges and sued Deutsch. His mandate expired on 31 August 2017, he was replaced by Ildikó Pelczné Gáll.

Personal life
He was married to Judit Benkő. They had two sons, Gergely and Balázs.

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Ralph T. H. Griffith

Ralph Thomas Hotchkin Griffith (1826–1906) was an English Indologist, a member of the Indian education service and among the first Europeans to translate the Vedas into English. He lived in the UK (Oxford) and in India (Benares and Nilgiris).

Life
Griffith was born at Corsley, Wiltshire, on 25 May 1826. The son of the Reverend R. C. Griffith (Chaplain to the Marquess of Bath 1830), he was a B.A. of Queen's College and was elected Boden Professor of Sanskrit on Nov 24, 1849. The Boden Sanskrit professorship was established in 1832 with money bequeathed to the university by Lieutenant Colonel Joseph Boden to assist in the conversion of the people of India to Christianity. Griffith took up this objective and translated the Vedic scriptures into English. He also produced translations of other Sanskrit literature, including a verse version of the Ramayana and the Kumara Sambhava of Kalidasa. He held the position of principal at the Benares College in India and later lived in Kotagiri, Nilgiri. Griffith was more interested in translating Vedic books into English, and did most of his translations while living, teaching and researching in Kotagiri in the Nilgiris.

His translation of the Rigveda follows the text of Max Müller's six-volume Sanskrit edition. His readings generally follow the work of the great scholar Sayana, who was Prime Minister at the court of the King of Vijaynagar in what is now the District of Bellary in the Indian state of Karnataka during the fourteenth century.

On his retirement he withdrew to Kotagiri, a hill station, some 7000 feet high, in the Nilgiris district, Madras, residing with his brother Frank, an engineer in the public works department of the Bombay presidency, who had settled there in 1879. At Kotagiri he tranquilly engaged in the study and translation of the Vedas. He died on 7 November 1906, and was buried there.

Works
Copies of his translation of the Rigveda, Samaveda, Yajur Veda, Atharvaveda and Ramayana are available on the internet.

 * The Ramayan of Valmiki (published 1870) (read online)
 * Hymns of the Rigveda (published 1889) (read online)
 * Hymns of the Samaveda (published 1893) (read online)
 * Hymns of the Atharvaveda (published 1896) (read online)
 * The Texts of the White Yajurveda (published 1899) (read online)

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Cyril Radcliffe, 1st Viscount Radcliffe

Cyril John Radcliffe, 1st Viscount Radcliffe, (30 March 1899 – 1 April 1977) was a British lawyer and Law Lord best known for his role in the Partition of India. He served as the first chancellor of the University of Warwick from its foundation in 1965 to 1977.

Background, education and early career
Radcliffe was born in Llanychan, Denbighshire, Wales, third of the four children- all sons- of Captain Alfred Ernest Radcliffe, of the Royal Lancashire Regiment, and Sybil Harriet, daughter of solicitor Robert Cunliffe, President of the Law Society between 1890 and 1891.

Radcliffe was educated at Haileybury College. He was conscripted in World War I but his poor eyesight limited the options for service so he was allocated to the Labour Corps. After the War, he attended New College, Oxford as a scholar, and took a first in literae humaniores in 1921. In 1922 he was elected to a prize fellowship at All Souls College, Oxford. He won the Eldon Law Scholarship in 1923.

He was called to the bar by the Inner Temple in 1924, and joined the chambers of Wilfred Greene, later the Master of the Rolls. He practised at the Chancery bar, and was appointed a King's Counsel in 1935.

During World War II, Radcliffe joined the Ministry of Information becoming its Director-General by 1941, where he worked closely with the Minister Brendan Bracken. In 1944 he was made a Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire (KBE). He returned to the bar in 1945.

Indian Boundary Committees
Radcliffe, a man who had never been east of Paris, was given the chairmanship of the two boundary committees set up with the passing of the Indian Independence Act. Radcliffe was given the task of drawing the borders for the new nations of Pakistan and India in a way that would leave as many Sikhs and Hindus in India and Muslims in Pakistan as possible. He was given only 5 weeks to complete the job. Radcliffe submitted his partition map on 9 August 1947, which split apart Punjab and Bengal almost in half. The new boundaries were formally announced on 17 August 1947 – three days after Pakistan's independence and two days after India became independent of the United Kingdom.

Radcliffe's efforts saw some 14 million people – roughly seven million from each side – flee across the border when they discovered the new boundaries left them in the "wrong" country. In the violence that ensued after independence, estimates of loss of life accompanying or preceding the partition vary between several hundred thousand and two million, and millions more were injured. After seeing the mayhem occurring on both sides of the boundary, Radcliffe refused his salary of 40,000 rupees (then 3,000 pounds). He was made a Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire in 1948.

Speaking of his experience as the chairman of boundary committees, he later said-"'I had no alternative, the time at my disposal was so short that I could not do a better job. Given the same period I would do the same thing. However, if I had two to three years, I might have improved on what I did.'"The poet W. H. Auden referred to Radcliffe's role in the partition of India and Pakistan in his 1966 poem "Partition".

Later career
In 1949, Radcliffe was made a Lord of Appeal in Ordinary, sworn of the Privy Council, and created a law lord as Baron Radcliffe, of Werneth in the County of Lancaster. Unusually, he had not previously been a judge. In the 1940s and 1950s he chaired a string of public enquiries in addition to his legal duties and continued to hold numerous trusteeships, governorships and chairmanships right up until his death. He chaired the Committee of Enquiry into the Future of the British Film Institute (1948), whose recommendations led to the modernisation of the BFI in the post-war period.

From 1957 he was chairman of the Radcliffe Committee, called to enquire into the working of the monetary and credit system. The committee published a report known as the Radcliffe report which suggested reforms on how monetary policy is run. He was also a frequent public speaker and wrote numerous books: he gave the BBC Reith Lecture in 1951 – a series of seven broadcasts titled Power and the State which examined the features of democratic society, and considered the problematic notions of power and authority. He also presented the Oxford University Romanes Lecture in 1963 on Mountstuart Elphinstone.

In 1962 he was made a hereditary peer as Viscount Radcliffe, of Hampton Lucy in the County of Warwick.

Personal life
Lord Radcliffe married Antonia Mary Roby, daughter of Godfrey Benson, 1st Baron Charnwood and former wife of John Tennant, in 1939. He died in April 1977, aged 78. He had no issue and the viscountcy of Radcliffe became extinct on his death.

In 2006, two sets of Chancery barristers' chambers in Lincoln's Inn merged and adopted the name "Radcliffe Chambers".

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Edmund Burke Stichting

The Edmund Burke Foundation (Edmund Burke Stichting) is a conservative group based in The Hague, the Netherlands.

History
The Edmund Burke Foundation was founded in 2000 by a group of young conservatives, including professor Andreas Kinneging and journalist Bart Jan Spruyt, dissatisfied with the consensus of Dutch politics, the level of public debate and what they believe is the dangerous drift of philosophy and culture in the Netherlands. It is named after the 18th-century conservative philosopher Edmund Burke.

From 2000 to 2005, the Foundation was active as both a think tank and an educational group. In that time, the foundation took positions that are both fiscally and socially conservative. It organized an annual summer school for undergraduate students, conferences, seminars and lectures on topics such as the multicultural society, education, health care, foreign policy and defense. Conservatives associated with the Foundation were, for example, in favor of health care privatization and tax cuts. The Foundation has links with conservative think tanks in the U.S., including The Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute. Speakers at the foundation's events included Roger Scruton, the Burke scholar Peter Stanlis, Dutch writer Leon de Winter, Islam-expert Reuel Marc Gerecht, Frits Bolkestein and Onno Ruding, former finance minister of The Netherlands.

In the summer of 2005, the Board of the Foundation decided to focus its activities more exclusively on its educational, cultural and philosophical programs, taking the Intercollegiate Studies Institute explicitly as a role model. Consequently, Bart Jan Spruyt stepped back as full-time managing director of the think tank to join the political party of Geert Wilders, but remained a member of the governing Board of the Foundation. Several former employees then spun off the think-tank activities into a new group called the European Independent Institute.

Media activities
In its think tank period, the Burke Foundation regularly published reports and studies on a variety of topics, including the Dutch health care sector, privatization, wasteful government spending and conservative philosophy and thought. Members of the Burke Foundation published articles and op-eds in numerous newspapers, and many newspapers devoted substantial attention to the activities of the Foundation. Those newspapers include De Telegraaf, de Volkskrant, NRC Handelsblad, Het Parool, Trouw, Nederlands Dagblad, and weekly magazines such as HP/De Tijd, Elsevier, and De Groene Amsterdammer. Members of the Burke Foundation also appeared regularly on TV and Radio programs, including NOVA, Den Haag Vandaag, TweeVandaag, and the Radio 1 News program.

Funding
The Foundation received substantial support during its think-tank period from a variety of sources, including small private donors, Dutch entrepreneurs, and various multinational corporations, such as Pfizer and Microsoft.

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Reduction (cooking)

In cooking, reduction is the process of thickening and intensifying the flavor of a liquid mixture, such as a soup, sauce, wine or juice, by simmering or boiling.

Reduction is performed by simmering or boiling a liquid, such as a stock, fruit or vegetable juice, wine, vinegar or sauce, until the desired concentration is reached by evaporation. This is done without a lid, enabling the vapor to escape from the mixture. Different components of the liquid will evaporate at slightly different temperatures, and the goal of reduction is to drive away those with lowest points of evaporation.

While reduction does concentrate the flavors left in the pan, reducing too much will decrease the amount of all liquid in the sauce, leaving a sticky, burnt coating on the pan.

Sauces, ranging from basic brown sauce to béchamel sauce and even tomato sauce, are simmered for long periods (from 1 to 10 hours) but not boiled. Simmering not only develops the maximum possible flavor, but also allows impurities to collect at the top and be skimmed off periodically as the sauce cooks. Boiling would diffuse the impurities into the liquid and result in a bitter taste and unclear stock. Broths are also simmered rather than boiled, and for the same reasons.

Examples
Common preparations involving reductions include:

 * Consommés, reduced and clarified stocks
 * Gravies
 * Gastriques, sauces involving both acidic and sweet components
 * Pan sauces
 * Syrups

title: Reduction (cooking)