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DYK for Roosevelt High School (St. Louis, Missouri)
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Streets of St. Louis, Missouri
Greetings, I like that you have improved some St. Louis Articles. Can you please help me the articles about the Streets and Highways of St. Louis?? (Jordan S. Wilson (talk) 00:12, 16 January 2012 (UTC))

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DYK for Central VPA High School
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DYK for Burning of Francis McIntosh
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Chuck Berry House.
Greetings, Poroubalous! I'm just dropping by to let you know I've nominated Chuck Berry House for DYK. Cheers! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
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DYK for Casa Alvarez
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Eucinetidae

Eucinetidae is a family of beetles, notable for their large coxal plates that cover much of the first ventrite of the abdomen, sometimes called plate-thigh beetles. The family is small for beetles, with about 50 species in 11 genera, but are found worldwide.

Adults are generally elliptical in shape, ranging from 0.8 to 4.0 mm in length, and black or brown in color. The head is small and bent underneath.

Eucinetids live in detritus or in fungus-covered tree bark, where both adults and larvae are assumed to eat various sorts of fungi. Around half of the genera possess strongly modified mouthparts, particularly the labrum, adapted for suctorial feeding.

Genera
These genera belong to the family Eucinetidae:
 * Eucinetella
 * Eucinetus Germar, 1818
 * Euscaphurus Casey, 1885
 * Noteucinetus Bullians & Leschen, 2005
 * Nycteus Latreille, 1829
 * Peltocoleops Ponomarenko, 1990
 * Subulistomella Sakai, 1980
 * †Huaxiacinectus Hong 1995 Huachi-Huanhe Formation, China, Early Cretaceous (Hauterivian)
 * Suctorial clade:
 * Eucilodes Vit, 1985
 * †Cretohlezkus Jałoszyński 2019 Burmese amber, Myanmar, mid Cretaceous (Albian-Cenomanian)
 * Bisaya Reitter, 1884
 * Jentozkus Vít, 1977
 * Tohlezkus Vít, 1977
 * Proeuzkus Vit, 2000

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Tiki Ti

The Tiki Ti is a Polynesian-themed tiki bar on Sunset Boulevard, in the Los Feliz district of Los Angeles.

Established in 1961 by Ray Buhen, the Tiki Ti's only employees, Mike Sr. and Mike Jr. Buhen are also the sole owners. The establishment is only open part of the week, closing instead on Sundays, Mondays and Tuesdays. The bar is a well known stop as an underground landmark, often serving as a prelude stop before attending other clubs in the popular Silverlake/Hollywood area. The bartenders are known for their "heavy" pours and specialty drinks like the "Blood and Sand," where patrons synchronously yell "Toro, Toro, Toro" while the drink is topped off with tequila, an homage to the 1941 Tyrone Power film about bullfighting. The other chanting drink is the "Uga Booga" where patrons yell "ooga booga" as the drink is being prepared.

The Tiki Ti does not have a happy hour, but on Wednesdays the "Ray's Mistake" cocktail is reduced in price. Also on that day, Mike will raise a toast to his father, Ray Buhen. The strongest drink is purported to be the "Stealth."

Although the Tiki-Ti does not serve typical bar cocktails such as the martini, the cosmopolitan or beer, their drink menu does consist of over 80 exotic drinks—many of which are originals. Drink names are colorful and include Yellow Bird, Laka Nuki, Bayanihan, Bonnie & Clyde and the Missionary's Downfall, just to name a few. For those who cannot decide what drink to choose, the bar offers a wheel that patrons can spin to help them make up their mind.

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Honey Nut Cheerios

Honey Nut Cheerios is a variation of Cheerios breakfast cereal, introduced in 1979.

Honey Nut Cheerios is sweeter than the original, with a honey and almond flavor. While Honey Nut Cheerios used to be made with actual nuts, as of 2006, the nuts were discontinued, and natural flavor, from peach and apricot pit is used instead. In 2011, Honey Nut Cheerios was the best-selling cereal in the United States.

Honey Nut Cheerios was the third variation of Cheerios introduced; Cinnamon Nut Cheerios was test marketed in 1976. There have been many other Cheerios variations, including Maple Cheerios, Chocolate Cheerios, and Blueberry Cheerios.

History
Historically, Honey Nut Cheerios has participated in much the same promotional advertising as the original brand, while collaborating with the field of NASCAR and especially driver Bill Lester, in promoting healthy diets. In 1985, Baskin-Robbins introduced an ice cream flavor based on the cereal called Honey Nut Crunch. Promotional tie-ins included gift certificates in cereal boxes and special Honey Nut Crunch sundaes in stores. The first 7 series of Honey Nut Cheerios did not have the bee mascot on the box, It was not until series 8 that the bee appeared on the box. Cereal boxes from 1979 without the bee are called 'pre-bee' and are very rare.

General Mills has been active in the conservation of bees since 2011; in 2011, the company began investing in the Xerces Society to help promote biodiversity and pollinator conservation. In March 2017, General Mills announced the Buzz Bee image had been removed from boxes of Honey Nut Cheerios. Images of the new box showed a white empty space where Buzz Bee used to be. Below the image of the bowl of cereal, a plea to "Help Bring Back The Bees" was added. This was to raise awareness of pollinator decline. In the announcement, General Mills made note that 30% of ingredients they use depend on pollinators, and that the company plans to expand their pollinator habitat to 3,300 acres. As part of the campaign, 1.5 billion packets of wildflower seeds were included in boxes of Honey Nut Cheerios.

This campaign has struck controversy in some environmental communities. Kathryn Turner, an ecologist, commented that the packages of seeds contain species that are invasive to some geographic locations, and urged individuals to become more educated before planting the seeds.

Mascot and promotions
Honey Nut Cheerios' mascot is an anthropomorphic bee, designed for the first commercials by Dean Yeagle at Zander's Animation Parlour in New York City. The bee did not have a name until 2000, when Kristine Tong, a fifth grade student from Coolidge, Texas, won a national contest to name him, dubbing him "BuzzBee". Several different voice actors have provided the voice of Buzz: originally voiced by Arnold Stang until 1992, he was then voiced by Hadley Kay, Billy West, George Trahanis, Charlie Schlatter, Jason Marsden, Oliver Wyman, Sam Heyn and Travis Moscinski. Buzz appeared as the host in the Honey Nut Cheerios Spelling Bee board game.

Taglines
Many of this cereal's taglines overlapped with each other. They were used on different advertisements.

 * It's a honey of an O. (1979–2004)
 * It's Honey Nut Cheerios! (1979–1992; 2000–2004; 2014–Present)
 * It's Irrezzzzistable! (1992–1993)
 * Race for the taste! (1993–1995)
 * Little O, Big Taste! (1995–1999)
 * Nobody can say "No" to Honey Nut Cheerios. (1995–2004)
 * From the hive that's nuts about honey! (2004–2008)
 * Bee happy, Bee healthy! (2004–2013)
 * Must Be the Honey. (2013–Present, based on Nelly's "Ride wit Me")
 * Good Goes Round. (2016–Present)
 * Have a Change of Heart. (2022–Present)

Nutrition
Honey Nut Cheerios maintains most of the same health claims as the original Cheerios, due to its soluble fiber. Package nutritional information asserts that "three grams of soluble fiber daily from whole grain oat foods, like Honey Nut Cheerios, in a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol, may reduce the risk of heart disease . Honey Nut Cheerios has 0.75g per serving." As with Cheerios, the American Heart Association certified the cereal as "heart-healthy" for meeting the food criteria for saturated fat and cholesterol content.

Honey Nut Cheerios also contains more sugar (9.6 Grams/serving) than original Cheerios, which contain 1.2 Grams/serving. This sugar comes from brown sugar, molasses, and honey.

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Please stop adding nonsense to the Wikipedia. It is considered vandalism. If you want to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. - Lucky 6.9 05:23, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Gospel Hump Wilderness

The Gospel Hump Wilderness is a federally-protected wilderness area that covers 205796 acre of the state of Idaho. Managed by the U.S. Forest Service in the U.S. Department of Agriculture, it received wilderness designation on February 24, 1978 through the passage of the Endangered American Wilderness Act and is part of Nez Perce National Forest. As part of the National Wilderness Preservation System, the Gospel Hump Wilderness is an area where human development and use are restricted and people are to remain only visitors.

History
The Nez Perce people lived in Idaho as early as 6000 BCE, and the area that is now the Gospel Hump Wilderness was used by them long before the arrival of settlers. In 1861 gold was discovered in Florence, Idaho, just outside the wilderness's boundary. A quartz vein at the base of Buffalo Hump was discovered in 1898, which sparked a gold rush before mining subsided in 1903. Remnants of mines and other structures remain in the wilderness. The wilderness was formally established on February 24, 1978 when Congress passed Public Law 95-237.

Management
When the Gospel Hump Wilderness is combined with the adjacent Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness Area and the surrounding unprotected inventoried roadless area, it is part of a 3300000 acre wilderness-roadless area complex. To the north of the Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness Area lies the Selway-Bitterroot Wilderness Area. These two large Wilderness areas are separated only by a single dirt road (the Magruder Corridor), connecting Red River, Idaho to Darby, Montana. Negating the Magruder Corridor, the Selway-Bitterroot, Gospel Hump and Frank Church-River of No Return Wilderness Areas constitute the largest intact piece of wildland in the United States outside of Alaska.

A management plan was established in 1983 and provides guidance for the Forest Service on management of the wilderness. The Wilderness Act of 1964 enhanced the protection status of remote or undeveloped land already contained within federally administered protected areas. Passage of the act ensured that no human improvements would take place aside from those already existing. The protected status in wilderness-designated zones prohibits road and building construction, oil and mineral exploration or extraction, and logging, and also prohibits the use of motorized equipment, including bicycles. The only manner in which people can enter wilderness areas is either on foot or horseback. Hunting and fishing are permitted in the wilderness, just as they are throughout the Nez Perce National Forest, provided those engaging in such activities have the proper licenses and permits.

Recreation
There are no roads in the wilderness, and motorized vehicles are prohibited. However, several unpaved roads provide access to the wilderness, but are usually only accessible during the summer months. No permits are required for recreational visits, but group size is limited to 20 people and 20 head of stock and there is a fourteen-day limit for camping at one site.

In 1982 it was estimated that the wilderness had 29,000 recreation visitor days. Half of summer use is from hikers, half of which camp in the wilderness. The majority of visitors during the fall are hunters.

Geography and geology
Elevations in the wilderness range from 1970 ft at the Wind River pack bridge across the Salmon River to 8940 ft at the summit of Buffalo Hump. The Salmon River forms the southern border of the wilderness and separates it from the adjacent Frank Church—River of No Return Wilderness. Several alpine lakes are located in high-elevation basins below the mountain peaks in the wilderness.

Rock units in the wilderness include gneiss along the Salmon River, the Hood Quartzite and Yellowjacket Formation (Precambrian in age), and undifferentiated granite of the Idaho Batholith.

Natural Resources
The southern section of the wilderness is dry and sparsely forested, while the northern section is moist and heavily forested. Mean annual precipitation ranges from 18 in along the Salmon River to 60 in at higher elevations, and snowpacks can reach 10 to 15 ft at higher elevations. At lower elevations ponderosa pine and cheat grass dominate, while higher elevations are covered by lodgepole pine, Douglas-fir, subalpine fir, and whitebark pine along with whortleberry and beargrass. The two parts of the wilderness are separated by the mountain divide for which the wilderness is named. Fish present in the wilderness include sockeye salmon, chinook salmon, rainbow trout, westslope cutthroat trout, bull trout, mountain whitefish, and smallmouth bass. Elk, mule deer, white-tailed deer, black bears, mountain lions, mountain goats, gray wolves, moose, and bighorn sheep are large mammals found in the wilderness. Hunting and fishing are permitted in the wilderness, provided proper permits are obtained in the appropriate season.

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WindTunnel with Dave Despain

WindTunnel with Dave Despain was a live viewer call-in show exclusively for auto racing fans that debuted on Speed Channel on February 22, 2003, and ended on August 11, 2013. During the course of the show, host Dave Despain fielded telephone calls and read e-mail from viewers, some of them directed at the guest Despain is interviewing, which was done just after the first segment, titled "Hot Topics", which Despain reads the big stories from the racing world. After the interview segment, Despain did a segment just for him, titled "My Take", in which he gave his opinion on news from the racing world. There was also an award for the best e-mail or phone call from each show, as the winning viewer received a Despain bobblehead. It was a coveted prize among viewers.

When WindTunnel debuted, the show aired Friday nights at 11 pm. The pilot episode was only a half-hour long. The time length was changed to an hour the very next week. In August 2003, WindTunnel expanded to four nights a week (Monday-Thursday) and moved to a 9 pm timeslot. In 2005, to the chagrin of some of the series' fans, WindTunnel was scaled back to one night a week, airing for two hours beginning at 9 pm on Sunday nights. In 2006, WindTunnel was scaled back to one hour. There have been special episodes of WindTunnel shown as part of the lead-up to the Daytona 500 and the Sprint All-Star Race.

The 2006 season brought about guest co-hosts in the form of racing personalities like drivers (such as Tony Stewart, Mario Andretti) and journalists (such as David Hobbs, Robin Miller, Ed Hinton, and Bob Varsha). In 2009, Despain began to take breaks during the season; guest hosts such as Krista Voda, Tommy Kendall, and Robin Miller have presented the show while Despain was off. Before this, only Ralph Sheheen in 2004 had replaced Despain for an episode due to illness.

The show would take a hiatus following the last NASCAR Sprint Cup race to late January during the racing off-season. During this time, best-of episodes titled WindTunnel: The Interviews were shown. Only the most popular interviews from the previous season were shown, which included interviews with NASCAR great Richard Petty, NASCAR star Jeff Gordon, and drag racing legend John Force. Starting in 2009 Golden Corral, an American restaurant chain, became the show's sponsor. Previous sponsors have been Carquest, an automobile parts store chain in 2007, and Alltel, a cell phone company in 2008.

Programming segments

 * Hot Topics-Highlights from the weekend's races and motorsports news.
 * Super 7 Sweep - An online fantasy racing game that awarded autographed Dave Despain Bobbleheads to each weekly winner plus season's end championship prizes.
 * Fired Up (2006-2012) – A short segment with callers (via voice mail) expressing heated opinions about topics regarding motorsports.
 * Eye Candy – A high energy musical video package including clips from that weekend's races.
 * My Take – A short editorial segment where Despain offers his opinion on a controversial topic in motorsports, usually offering a potentially simple solution to a complex problem.
 * Stat Rat (debuted July 15, 2007) - A reference of statistics regarding the performance of a team, driver, or manufacturer over a specific time period. While not a regular segment, it is used to highlight a guest's achievements.
 * Last Call – The last call from a viewer or a driver. Last call is announced by a graphic of what is likely intended to be an Italian bartender, but fans call him the "pizza guy" saying he looks like a worker in a pizza restaurant and that his long sleeves would get wet if he were a bartender. Despain counters, "Why would a pizza guy be saying "last call!"?
 * WindTunnel EXTRA (2009–2012) – An extra 30-minute program that starts immediately after the television broadcast, available on Speed Channel web site. Despain often does a second "My Take" on a different subject. It is not unusual for a guest from the broadcast to remain for the webcast. Despain often answers questions from the live interactive chat that runs concurrent with the show.
 * Dave's Favorite E-Mail (2010–2012) – Dave reads and reacts to his favorite user-submitted e-mail of the week, usually of a comedic or satirical nature.
 * Help Yourself to Happiness – Sponsored by restaurant chain, Golden Corral. Dave highlights a particular moment or event of the previous week in which a racer "helps them-self to happiness." Usually features a dramatic or meaningful overtaking maneuver.
 * Question of the Week - Sponsored by RACER Magazine, Dave asks viewers to respond via phone or e-mail to a particular question. Usually relates to a "Hot Topic" or to a guest of the show.

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Talk:Tiki Ti

From VfD
Advertising for non-notable bar. RickK 05:26, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)

 * Non-notable? I wasn't aware this article existed before just now, but the bar itself is one of the most well-known establishments in Southern California.  A Google search for the name, with or without quotes, brings up (literally) myriad results, all relevant; at any rate, I certainly grew up hearing about it.  The article is in dire need of a clean-up, but it's a definite keep.  Austin Hair 05:42, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Needs a clean up, but its a very notable place. --KenV 05:44, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Clean up and removal of advertising: It has no employees?  Very weird.  You can see two different hands at work, at least.  One is a Wikipedia-appropriate one, and one is not.  Geogre 13:19, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. OMG, Los Angeleans are second only to New Yorkers in thinking they live in the center of the universe. I live in the same state, and frequent bars, and have never heard of this. "tiki ti" only gets 600 hits. (compare to 16,000 for "tiki hut", which doesn't have an article). If this stays, expect articles on The Oasis, Murphy's Law, and Blinkys, "notable" bars in MY neighborhood. "The Oasis, known to many as "The Bat Cave" for its dark, cramped atmosphere..." "Murphy's Law is in the popular Murphy Street neighborhood of Sunnyvale, and features live classic rock music on the weekends. ..." "Blinkys sports bar is on the renowned El Camino Real, and features live classic rock music on the weekends..." Note, KenV's only edits are here and the subject article--suspect original contrib of article. No employees? What, the waitstaff is all volunteer? Niteowlneils 14:08, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * All this for a one sentence stub on a notable bar on Sunset, hmmm I reedited my first entry to an approprate one. California Smoking Law is ment to protect the employees, the oweners do not have employees, they do everything themselfs. --69.33.44.66 17:09, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * That helps explain some of it. You do see how confusing it was in the article to say that it was a place with no employees?  If this is as famous as Tiki Hut, then realize that most of us will re-examine the article before the end of VfD voting and review our votes. Geogre 17:53, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep! Los Angeles landmark referenced on our Sunset Boulevard page. jengod 18:36, Aug 10, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. If jengod says it's an L.A. landmark worth keeping, then it's an L.A. landmark worth keeping. -- Decumanus 06:39, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete - POV. In Canada, Toronto claims to be the center of the universe. I'm sure every country can claim a metropolis arrogant enough to make the same claim, and at least one bar in said metropolis arrogant enough to proclaim itself monarch. Denni ☯ 02:06, 2004 Aug 13 (UTC)
 * The article makes no claim that the bar exists at the center of the universe, or any claim of any superiority whatever. I can only assume that you're not referring to the actual content, or even the name, but rather the article's very existence.  Given this assumption, I ask: how is this a violation of WP:NPOV?  Austin Hair 02:36, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)
 * I claim only that a fricking =bar= has no place in Wikipedia, unless someone famous drank there regularly, or a notable person committed suicide on the premises, or some other event occurred which elevates it above any other similar liquor-serving establishment in Backwash, Indiana (where the same fun can be had at half the price). Plain and simple, this bar is irrelevant to five decimal places to the world's population - what reason other than fondness for the establishment or vanity could there be for including such an article? Denni ☯ 02:03, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)
 * Nobody notable drank there regularly? Amongst the many famous regular patrons of the Tiki Ti have been some key figures in the underground rock scene of the 1980s, such as the members of The Cramps, Jeffrey Lee Pierce, Bob Forrest, and many others. It was the post-punk scenester crowd who discovered the bar, previously a neighborhood joint little known outside of what was then a relatively obscure part of L.A.
 * In fact, you claimed that this article was POV in the lead sentence of your first post, which is a very different argument from the one upon which you've now decided to fall back. Significance, you secondary argument, is relevant to this vote, and I simply argue that a notable landmark in what is unarguably a notable city can rightfully be considered to be both encyclopedic and significant to a sizable portion of our audience.  Neither Pikachu nor Giraldus Cambrensis are of any interest to "five decimal places of the world's population," but they both (quite appropriately) have their place in Wikipedia.  Austin Hair 02:26, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * And I still think that a sentence like "It is considered by many to be the very epitome of the Tiki tavern style" is POV unless you have some demonstrative proof that "many" ≠ "me". And what precisewly is "...a sizable portion of our audience..."? The hundred odd regulars? The few thousand who have visited because of its "notability", or the few (being generous) tens of thousands who have heard of it? Both Pikachu and Giraldus Cambrensis have notability to a hugely larger audience than this article. I stand by my vote. Denni ☯ 18:47, 2004 Aug 14 (UTC)
 * Have you read WP:NPOV? "It is considered by many" is precisely the way to state a particular viewpoint while not actively espousing it.  In fact, I don't personally hold an opinion either way, and did not write that tidbit in the first place.  I did rephrase it per the NPOV policy.  As for the bar's prominence as a Los Angeles landmark, perhaps you'd best leave that judgment to LA residents and tourists—i.e. those actually qualified to judge.  I certainly wouldn't take it upon myself to speak for the popularity of a site in Jakarta, having never even been there.  Austin Hair 23:13, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Dittaeva 20:42, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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photoreq
removing photo request. photo has been added. Minnaert 00:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Above discussion
Putting aside the discussion of bars, Sunset Blvd, center of the universe etc. The Tiki Ti is an historic landmark for those involved in "Tiki Culture" just because "you" don't understand the concept doesn't mean it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. It is as much a part of "tiki" as Trader Vics or Don the Beachcomber. And it IS world famous by the way. Hell, without Ray Buhen there would've BEEN no Trader Vic's! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.203.11 (talk) 03:07, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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