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That's a cool username
Welcome, Mooquackwooftweetmeow :D (yeah, I know you've been here for months) ··gracefool |☺ 12:31, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Fix You
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the official site got it wrong again... Capitol Music Germany Take it straight from the record label pressing the disc. HMV UK and NME yield similar results --Madchester 02:55, August 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * OK. I've changed "Your World Turned" to "The World Turned" per those sources. --Greg K Nicholson 07:57:50, 2005-08-13 (UTC)

British spelling
Please do not change text to British spelling. American spelling is used in Wikipedia. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 01:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
 * Which page? As I understand it, the rule is to use the dialect most appropriate to the topic, so articles on European topics should use en-GB --Greg K Nicholson 17:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

problem with Bisexual erasure?
Hi there. So didn't quite catch the drift of your comment there on the talk page. CyntWorkStuff 20:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

 * Thank you CyntWorkStuff 23:30, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

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Innocence (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

"Innocence" is episode 14 of season two of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. It was written and directed by Joss Whedon and first broadcast on The WB on January 20, 1998. It is part two of a two-part story. Part 1, "Surprise," was broadcast the day before.

"Innocence" is one of the most critically acclaimed and highest rated episodes in the series, attracting 8.2 million viewers as the series moved from its Monday timeslot to Tuesday.

Plot
After making love with Buffy, Angel is racked with pain as his soul is ripped from him. In the street, he kills a passer-by when she offers to help him. He goes to the factory to join Spike and Drusilla, but the Judge attacks him. It is unable to burn him because Angel has fully reverted to the evil Angelus. Spike, Drusilla, and Angelus are clearly pleased to be reunited. Angelus vows to destroy Buffy for how she made him feel when he was Angel.

While researching a way to defeat the Judge, a demon with the power to destroy the world whom "no weapon forged" can harm, Xander and Cordelia are caught kissing in the library by a jealous Willow. Buffy finds Angel in his apartment, not knowing that he is now Angelus, and he blows her off, laughing at her as she weeps. Jenny is castigated by her uncle Enyos, who tells her that if Angel has one moment of true happiness, the curse placed on him will be broken and his new soul taken from him. Angelus terrorizes Willow and the Gang at school, emotionally tormenting Buffy. Later, as they discuss Angel's transformation in the library, Buffy realises that having sex with Angel is what caused him to turn evil.

Buffy has a dream in which Angel indicates that Jenny knows more than she is letting on. The next morning, Buffy confronts Jenny, who tells her that Angelus was cursed with a soul in vengeance for what he did to her people, and that Enyos had tasked her with keeping Buffy and Angel apart. When Buffy, Jenny, and Giles arrive at Enyos' home, they find that Angelus has brutally killed him, leaving Buffy a message written in blood on the wall. Buffy begins to accept that she has to kill Angelus.

Xander, using memories from being a soldier on Halloween, hatches a plan to kill the Judge. He and Cordelia break into an army base and steal a shoulder-launched rocket. Oz declines Willow's offer to make out, as he suspects that she only wants to make Xander jealous.

Tracking down the Judge, who is slaughtering people at a crowded mall, Buffy blows him to bits with the anti-tank weapon. Buffy stalks Angelus through the fleeing crowd and, when he ambushes her, they battle ferociously. Reaching a stand-off, Buffy is still unwilling to kill Angelus and settles for kicking him in the crotch.

Buffy blames herself for everything that has happened, but Giles reassures her that although she acted rashly, she and Angel loved each other and that Giles still supports and respects her. Later, Joyce lights the candle on Buffy's birthday cake and tells her to make a wish, but Buffy decides to let it burn, while they watch the classic movie Stowaway.

Themes
Myles McNutt writes that the episode depicts "a harsh reality which breaks down the show's romantic depiction of love perhaps once and for all":

"This isn't entirely new, as Xander and Cordelia's relationship is a twisted sort of love driven by hate, and Giles and Jenny have gone through various hiccups where love is interrupted by near-death experiences (or, in this case, by Jenny's subterfuge regarding her family connection). But the episode is a direct hit to the series' romantic core: Willow's fantasies about Xander are shattered by walking in on the two making out in the stacks, a sort of less extreme equivalent to Angel's (or Angelus') cruelty as he takes advantage of a fragile Buffy by suggesting that he simply ran off because she wasn't good enough, or because he wasn't satisfied, or because their connection wasn't real. The latter case is obviously more traumatic, but the former is just as earth-shattering for Willow."

Broadcast
"Innocence" was the highest-rated episode ever for Buffy the Vampire Slayer, scoring a 5.2 Nielsen rating and a 6.7 overnight rating, with each ratings point representing 980,000 households. It was watched by 8.2 million viewers.

Reception
The two-part story won an Emmy Award for Outstanding Makeup for a Series, one of only two Emmys the series would win.

In Entertainment Weekly list of the 25 best Whedonverse episodes — including episodes from Buffy, as well as Angel, Firefly and Dollhouse — "Innocence" placed at No. 2, with the magazine saying, "It's as primal a metaphor for the terrors of sex as one could imagine, and it showed the audience, the cast, and Whedon himself just how high his little show about dusting vampires could climb." Joss Whedon listed "Innocence" as his favorite episode of the series; the interviewer wrote, "Every girl's nightmare, and one of the show's most sly yet most powerful uses of metaphor... Though devastated, Buffy realizes that her mission is more important than her feelings."

Vox ranked it at #16 of all 144 episodes on their "Every Episode Ranked From Worst to Best" list (to mark the 20th anniversary of the show), writing, "Up until this point, it’s been a smart, charming, and sharply written but also goofy and campy take on adolescence and its demons. After "Innocence," it’s an immortal piece of television."

Reviewer Billie Doux writes that the two episodes "together are outstanding, and mark a major turning point in the series," adding, "David Boreanaz is much more impressive as Angelus than as Angel. I noticed mostly how he goes for a much lighter, more whimsical tone; good Angel is usually grim and haunted, but Angelus is playful, enthusiastic, and smiles all the time. Okay, smirks." Myles McNutt notes that "what 'Innocence' does so well is give us a clear indication of what the show will be like now that Angel has moved to the dark side. It doesn't just turn Angel into Angelus without giving us a sense of how the character will act or what his dynamic will be with Spike and Drusilla; instead, David Boreanaz is given a great deal of time to flesh out just what Angel is like without a soul..." He adds that it's "clever how the Judge was an unquestionably dominant threat but was not actually a dominant character: because it took him time to regain his power, it allowed for the wheelchair-bound Spike, the newly returned Angelus and Drusilla to remain the clear villains of the piece. The Judge remains simply a weapon at their disposal, which fit the episode quite nicely."

Screen Rant named it an episode including some of "The Best 60 Seconds From All 7 Seasons." "The best 60 seconds of the season occur when the Judge arrives at a shopping mall and starts killing people. Buffy turns up, and he announces that no weapon can kill him. Buffy replies, "That was then, this is now," and pulls out the rocket launcher. The Judge asks what it does, and Buffy blows him into thousands of pieces."

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Waray

Waray may refer to:

 * Waray people of the Philippines
 * Waray language, the fifth most spoken native language of the Philippines, spoken by the Waray people
 * Waray literature
 * Warray language, an Australian language spoken in the Adelaide River area of the Northern Territory
 * Waray Sorsogon language, also known as Southern Sorsogon language, a language spoken in the Philippines

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Talk:Ulysses (poem)

Character of Ulysses
I don't think the qutoed lines imply that Ulysses was a bad king, my Norton Critical Edition footnotes the word unequal with the meaning "fitting different situation." peterallenwebb

Could be.

One other thing - Tennyson's character appears to be based more on the Ulysses of the Divine Comedy rather than the Odysseus of the Homeric poems, which Dante, knowing no Greek, had not read. The most persuasive evidence on this point is both Dante and Tennyson reference Ulysses assembling a band of old comrades, whereas in the Odyssey, all of Odysseus's companions die in the first three years of his wanderings. Ellsworth 22:42, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Definately agree on that point. I may have some time to include information on those sources in the next week or so. peterallenwebb

It's been awhile since this was posted. I put a brief note at the end of the article, and don't have too much more to say at this time. Ellsworth 21:43, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Copyright
Given that the poem is out of copyright, is there any reason we can't reproduce it in full? --anon user who doesn't believe in accounts 00:16, 29 Dec 2006 (EST)

Literary Context
from the article "Homer's Odyssey provides the poem's narrative background: in its eleventh book the prophet Tiresias foretells that Ulysses will return to Ithaca after a difficult voyage, then begin a new, mysterious voyage, and finally die an "unwarlike" death at sea. By Tennyson's poem's end, his Ulysses is contemplating undertaking this new voyage."

Tiresias tells Odysseus that he will die FAR from sea, not on it! Worse mistake the word "unwarlike" in qoutes. Ive got Chapman and EV Rieu right in front of me. neither use anything like unwarlike. Rieu calls it a peaceful death. btw, heres a citation 11.130-138. I think that this version is either Virgil or Ovid, because they did not like Odysseus. I have not corrected the passage because it is directly related to the next sentence and I havent read Tennyson. But i do know the new voyage predicted by T in Homer is not a sea voyage. it is the paddle/winnowing fan voyage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eric Forest (talk • contribs) 08:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

 * "Unwarlike" isn't worse than your first point—it's the less debatable of your two points. Some sources give "peaceful", some "unwarlike", and what's important in the context of this poem is the irony or contrast of the protaganist dying in an "unwarlike" manner, given Tennyson's poem's sentiments. It looks like the death is foretold to come "from the sea", and the meaning here is rather vague, according to a Google Books review. I will amend the article on this latter point. (Is there anything you liked about the article? You could probably count on one hand the number of extended articles on specific poems on wikipedia.) –Outriggr § 23:08, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding last comment in article section:

However, critics note that in the Homeric narrative, Ulysses' original mariners are dead. A significant irony therefore develops from Ulysses' speech to his sailors—"Come, my friends, / 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world" (56–57). Since Dante's Ulisse has already undertaken this voyage and recounts it in the Inferno, Ulysses' entire monologue can be envisioned as his recollection while situated in Hell.[30]

The following from Inferno also seems to contradict this statement:

"Therefore, I set out on the open sea with but one ship and that small company of those who never had deserted me."(Canto XXVI, 100-102).

Ulysses then recounts the events of that last voyage leading upto and including his eventual death.I fail to see the "significant irony " that is supposedly being developed. Can somebody better versed in the subject help me clear this up. 140.117.197.118 (talk) 07:02, 3 November 2009 (UTC)An Amateur
 * This is a fine article, very carefully edited and I would hesitate to amend it in any way. One small point though; there appears (perhaps my mistake) to be an assumption that Tennyson's use of a source (Dante) that places Ulysses in hell implies an underlying negative attitude towards the hero, and to be evidence in favour of the "ironic" interpretation of the poem. This, though, may well not be the case, since Tennyson may have had a very different assessment of the very character traits that led Dante to implicitly condemn Ulysses. Similarly, it has always been recognised that Milton (also a rebel against an absolute ruler) saw much to admire in the character of Satan as represented in Paradise Lost. So to draw on these representations would not necessarily imply a negative attitude towards Ulysses, and given Tennyson's clear identification with Ulysses in the poem, it would be surprising if his overall assessment was negative. This is not intended to be OR, just a response to what might be taken as a "subtext" in the presentation here. Orbitalforam (talk) 09:56, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

london olympics
right at the end some mention should be made of the use of the end of the poem on the poetry wall at "Ulysses Square" at the London Olympic Village, which is intended to be there forever more. The last line is in letters 2 feet high, and then, inside, the last few lines are to be given. Check this out with the Cultural Commissar of the Olympics. BTW the line was chosen as a result of a public vote so this is testimony to the enduring (affirmative) popularity of Ulysses. Alf Heben (talk) 19:13, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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An image of A.H.H I recently found, in case it's ever needed: File:Arthur Henry Hallam bust.jpg. It's a bust by Francis Leggatt Chantrey. INeverCry 02:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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Since the 2007 FAC, Matthew Rowlinson has written about the poem, discussion of the last line,. EBSCO suggests a few more... Eddie891 Talk Work 15:18, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

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St. Enda's School

St. Enda's School (Scoil Éanna) was an Irish language secondary established in 1908 by Irish nationalist Patrick Pearse. Originally Pearse's school was established in 1908 at Cullenswood House, Ranelagh before moving to the Hermitage in Rathfarnham in 1910. After Pearse was executed for his part in the 1916 rising, and due to increasing financial worries, the school closed in 1935. Today the site is occupied by the Pearse Museum.

Background
Pearse, one of the leaders of the Easter Rising in 1916, had long been critical of the educational system in Ireland, which he believed taught Irish children to be good Englishmen. He had for years been committed to the preservation of the Irish language, mostly through the Gaelic League, and was dearly concerned about the language's future. A trip abroad to Belgium and his observations of bilingual education there inspired him to attempt a similar experiment at home. Pearse also simply enjoyed educating boys, writing: "To me a boy is the most interesting of all living things, and I have for years found myself coveting the privilege of being in a position to mould or help to mould, the lives of boys to noble ends."

Pearse was not a practical businessman, but did not let lack of finances get in the way of his plans. With promises from prominent nationalists that as proponents of Irish heritage they would provide whatever limited financial support they could, and, where applicable, enroll their children, Pearse officially opened his school on 8 September 1908, in Cullenswood House, Ranelagh, a suburb of Dublin.

The school proved a successful experiment, but was never to fully escape the shadow of looming financial woes. In fact, the school would not have survived the crucial first few years without the devoted aid of his good friend and assistant headmaster Thomas MacDonagh, and the solid dedication of Pearse's brother Willie.

Move to Rathfarnham
St. Enda's taught many of the classes in Irish, and particularly stressed the arts and dramatics. Everything was given an Irish approach. After two years the school was doing quite well. Thrilled with his creation, and concerned that Cullenswood House was not a location that did St. Enda's justice, Pearse found what he believed to be the perfect home for the school. The Hermitage in Rathfarnham, substantially further from Dublin than Cullenswood House, caught his imagination and he decided that the school would have to move there. The substantial extra expenses involved did not deter him, nor was anything likely to, for the Hermitage, in addition to having a pastoral setting, had a connection with Robert Emmet, an Irish martyr and hero of Pearse's. It was on these grounds that Emmet had courted Sarah Curran, who had lived nearby and whose father did not look kindly on young Emmet, forcing them to the grounds of the nearby Hermitage for their trysts.

In addition, the school's namesake, St. Enda of Aran, had similarly left his life to teach a devoted group of students in the secluded Aran Islands, much as Pearse was now to do. In 1910 St. Enda's opened its doors at the Hermitage.

The Hermitage, while perfect for Pearse's idyllic image of what he hoped to achieve, proved to be a financial disaster. The extra distance made it less practical for the day school boys, forcing many of them to drop out rather than switch to boarding. In addition to this school, Pearse had decided to use Cullenswood House to establish a similar school for girls, St. Ita's. With bankruptcy looming Pearse was forced to look to the United States for further funding. A lecture tour gave him some good contacts among the exiled Fenians who would prove to play a large part in Ireland's near political future, but the money he raised only kept the school barely in solvency.

Later years and closure

Pearse's involvement in the Irish Volunteers in 1913, and his active participation in the Irish Republican Brotherhood shortly thereafter, left St. Enda's with a less devoted master than it had previously. Pearse's radical politics also made even some moderate supporters question what their children might be exposed to, and some, notably Eoin MacNeill, removed their children from Pearse's influence. As it turned out, a large number of St. Enda's pupils did join the Fianna Éireann, and even the IRB, fifteen of whom later took part in the Easter Rising in 1916.

Following the execution of the Pearse brothers after the rising, their mother reopened St. Enda's back at Cullenwood House, facilitated by the closure of St. Ita's. Frank Burke, an ex-pupil who had served in the Rising, was headmaster. The school returned to the Hermitage in 1919. The international fame the rising had given Pearse and his martyrdom made raising funds easier than before, and the following year Margaret Pearse had raised enough to buy the property Pearse could never afford in his lifetime. However, without the leadership of either of the Pearse brothers, St. Enda's could not last, and it eventually closed its doors for good in 1935.

Today the Hermitage stands as the Pearse Museum, dedicated to the memory of the school's founders.

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Hi, Welcome to wikipedia! I see that you have almost entirely changed the Architecture (built environment) page. I would like to point out that wikipedia is a colloborative effort and making such a major change without discussion may rise heated discussion. Especially when there is someone who has put in lots of effort into the page and almost written the whole page- meaning me:-)The changes you have made largely make it an architectural history page whereas the architecture introduction page should look at history, theory,philosophy, whatever. I think that your edits might be more suitable in the Architectural history page. It is now just a list of pages. Why don't you have a look at it. And if you want to change the intro page in a drastic way, please discuss in the talk page. Also if the edits are done one step at time, it is easier to trace or resolve any differences of opinion.(If you see the comments on the talk page they have been entirely laudatory- well, almost) In any case, the page has been moved by someone else to the main Architecture page(which is a good idea, and which was how it was originally). It seems by looking at your edits that you have realised this and have started on the main page. I hope you see my point of view and refrain from editing the page without discussion. KRS 18:31, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Talk:Cary Elwes

Not enough information
I personally think there is not enough info on this man. I think that he either is very careful about what gets out about him or he has a bad publicist. :)

Beth

I agree with you Beth. But then again, it should be noted that he is not a very famous actor and thus may have not attracted a lot of public attention.

Trina

he was also on 8 or 9th season of x-files

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 * Cary Elwes has 32" biceps. I think this should be mentioned in the article.   — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:13, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

 * No, they are only 30". I mesured them this morning. I'll update the article with this info.--CaryElwes 17:10, August 17, 2005

 * Mr. Elwes, I was wondering if you could confirm that Frederick Jackson Turner was your great-grandfather? Thanks! Edwardian 07:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

shows the correct formatting of a conversation (sans a heading). Users should use the same indentation for all their comments in a discussion.

I hope this helps. Happy editing! — Frecklefoot | Talk 15:13, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

Pronounciation
In Britain his name is pronounced Ew-els not El-Wez

 * So why does someone keep reverting it to El-wez? And what became of the biographical entry that in 2006 he admitted in interview to being bisexual?
 * Nuttyskin 02:51, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

 * This has happened again. bellum nuntio.
 * Nuttyskin 21:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

I just saw him tonight in the CBS TV film about Pope John Paul II. What a performance! He was the spitting image of the man. He was extraordinarily good. I didn't realise until the end who it was who had played him, just kept wondering "who the heck was that?". Full marks, Cary. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 05:09, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Re the bisexuality thing: I presume it needs a source. Once a source is there then of course it has to go in. FearÉIREANN \(caint) 05:12, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I think Nuttyskin is mistaking him with Cary Grant. I have read/watched a lot of Elwes' interviews (I'm a huge fan) and I have NEVER seen anything like that. On the other hand, it is said that Cary Grant was bisexual, so probably Nuttyskin just confused them both. VeroSa 6 March 2011 (UTC)

Now the page says - pronounced ELL-WAYS or "Yules" - which is extremely confusing. I checked the page specifically to see how his name is pronounced, and this does not explain it in any way. Which one is it? Is either acceptable? Does he pronounce it differently in Britain and in Hollywood? And in any case, explain it more clearly, at first I just thought WTF how are those the same word, thinking it was just explaining in two ways how to pronounce the same thing instead of explaining two completely different sounds. Then I wondered why the hell is it telling me two completely different ways to say someone's name...85.157.155.247 (talk) 12:44, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

 * VeroSa, Cary Grant is dead, and Elwes very much alive. Perhaps you mistook him for someone else? Nuttyskin (talk) 02:51, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Tales Update?
Someone should add this.

In 1999, Elwes played a Dr. York in an episode of "The Outer Limits" called "Ripper." (cf. IMDB) 69.212.208.127 04:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC) Zuqaqipum

Brother
Someone needs to add info about his brother, Cassian Elwes who is a rather well known and influential person in the film industry. RoyBatty42 09:29, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Descendant of Guilford Dudley?
What is the evidence for him being a descendant of Guilford Dudley? Dudley and Jane Grey had no children. Is Elwes a descendant of a Dudley bastard? Or is he a descendant of the Dudley family, and thus related to Guilford Dudley but not descended from him? Or is the whole thing a fabrication? Simhedges 18:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

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Citizenship
He was born in England, and is currently in English categories. However, I read that he is now a U.S. citizen. Can someone clarify which citizenship(s) he currently holds? Werdnawerdna (talk) 18:33, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

 * It is possible to hold Dual Citizenship! Nuttyskin (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Saw VI confirmation?
It appears that his filmography section has him returning as Dr. Gordon for Saw VI. Has this been confirmed anywhere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.187.76.236 (talk) 18:58, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * It's not been confirmed at all. Every year jackasses add Dr. Gordon in each passing Saw sequel to his filmography. If it it happens again, just remove it. Thanks.--CyberGhostface (talk) 21:35, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Front picture
This picture is terrible. I'm not even sure if its him because of the glasses + beard. Try and get a clearer picture.

76.65.21.198 (talk) 17:51, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

 * It's better than nothing. Yes it is him; please assume good faith.   Mike   Allen  19:24, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

 * ✅ Current pictures are excellent. TNKS, Narnia.Gate7 (talk) 01:27, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

The Goatee
Why do we have a photograph of Cary Elwes with a goatee on the article? He is almost always seen without a goatee in films. -- The Anon, 92.20.200.45 (talk) 16:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC), updated 16:30, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Because it's the only free image that we have. This article is not only about his career, it's also about his real life.  In real life, that's what he currently looks like.  Thank you.  Mike   Allen  22:40, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers Mike. -- 92.20.200.45 (talk) 18:00, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

RE Happygolucky26's edits
I reverted this new registrant (don't know if he's a new user) who made a large number of edits without offering edit summaries or any discussion as to why he was removing another editor's citations. This is the only page to which he has made any edits. He then began the first volley of an edit war by not going to this talk page to discuss why he is blanking other editors' work and removing what appears to be pertinent information. I don't know if this is a hardcore fan, which is often the case in situations such as this. I am going to his page to try to initiate a discussion. If not, we may need admin intervention before this becomes a full-fledged edit war. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:16, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Opening headline
I feel it's quite unecessary to clog the header with such detail that is touched upon in sections below it. The header is an introduction to the article and states the birthdate, nationality and general notable roles (in Elwes' case, The Princess Bride and Saw) and a few of his other roles. People revert me constantly telling me too much info isn't good, and when i shorten info, i Still get reverted, saying it contributes. It contradictory balance is getting annoying. The way i wrote it was nice and short, touching upon his general career, at the same time keeping it short and sweet. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 19:16 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Per WP:LEAD, the lead should summarise the whole article. It shouldn't be cursory or unnecessarily short. The version that is being reverted to is a suitable length, your abridgements go against the established policy for lead sections. GRAPPLE   X  20:51, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you Grapple. The lead is designed to summarize the article, especially the notable parts. The article has been mostly unsourced (or poorly sourced) for over year, or years--who knows. But I took care of that.  You're welcome by the way, but I see a lead paragraph is the more important issue here.. — Mike   Allen   21:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My god, no matter what contribution i add, it's always frowned upon and reverted. My opinion is that the header shouldn't be clogged up with info like who his parents are and what his first role was when you can read all that below in the actual article. Isn't that what the page is for, to learn about him? I submitted that short version because it's a nice, short description of his career. A three episode stint on Psych does not pay a major part in his career. But people hide behind these guidelines, which frustrate me because people honestly need to follow a certain method to edit an article headline? These guidelines are what cause these differences of opinion and start things like edit wars. People only need a short and sweet intro to the article, not slammed with a bunch of info instantaneously upon observing the article. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 0:06 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not meant to be a "short and sweet intro". The lead is meant to summarise the article. You're not reading the teaser on the back of a book, you're reading a summation of the entire thing. GRAPPLE   X  00:21, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * People that follow Wikipedia's guidelines frustrate you? Guidelines are put in place to prevent silly edit wars -- well for people that actually read and follow them. I'm so sorry for turning your two sentences of the summarizing the man's life and career into five sentences (technically one paragraph). You act like I plastered 4 paragraphs down.  Why is this a big deal again?  — Mike   Allen   01:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Not at all, i'm just confused why there's a guideline for how an intro should be written. I add a small intro, nope can't do that, per WP:LEAD. Let's put his awards in a collapsable box. WP:COLLAPSE. Per this, per that. And it combines with the anguish i experience when i make a contribution and it's immediately altered or removed. It's not even a bad edit, but it's consistently wiped off the page and makes me feel i haven't contributed to anything. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 13:09 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * And no, this isn't a plea to change it back so i can feel special. Rusted AutoParts (talk) 13:13 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * But why would you think a small, two sentence intro is sufficient? The article isn't a stub. Usually parents are not added to the lead, unless it somehow plays a part in their notability, and for Elwes I think it does. About collapseable tables, it says "When scrolling lists or collapsible content are used, take care that the content will still be accessible on devices that do not support JavaScript or CSS". You have to take all things into consideration when making changes. No one is trying to prevent you from making contributions.  I had a lot of my edits reverted when I was a newbie.  Look at Angelina Jolie.  Would you want to shorten that lead?  — Mike   Allen   23:27, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Do I have to look at her? I just ate. GRAPPLE   X  23:33, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Current new News
Watching Granite Flats on BYUtv, we see that Cary Elwes joins the cast next week, along with Christopher Lloyd. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:13, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Headline-1: Christopher Lloyd and Cary Elwes join Granite Flats cast QUOTE: "We're thrilled to announce that veteran actors Christopher Lloyd and Cary Elwes in addition to Finola Hughes are joining season two of BYUtv's Granite Flats! Tune in for the brand new season beginning Sunday, April 6, at 9pm ET/7pm MT! (A special sneak peek of season two will also air on April 6 at 6pm ET/4pm MT, immediately following the Sunday afternoon session of LDS General Confrence. Two chances to watch in one day!) Christopher Lloyd is best known for his iconic roles in the TV series Taxi and films like Who Framed Roger Rabbit, The Addams Family and of course the Back to the Future film trilogy. Cary Elwes is well known for his performances in The Princess Bride, Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Twister, Liar, Liar and New Year's Eve." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC) -- PS:FYI for future editing.
 * http://www.byutv.org/seethegood/post/Christopher-Lloyd-and-Cary-Elwes-join-Granite-Flats-cast.aspx

Headline-2: Christopher Lloyd, Cary Elwes Join BYUtv Family Drama ‘Granite Flats’ QUOTE: "the family drama that airs on cabler BYUtv, is adding some high-profile thesps to its roster with Christopher Lloyd and Cary Elwes signing on for guest arcs. ... “Princess Bride” star and “Psych” alum Elwes will appear in four episodes as the head of CIA’s counter intelligence program." -- Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC) -- PS:FYI for future editing.
 * http://variety.com/2014/tv/news/christopher-lloyd-cary-elwes-join-byutv-family-drama-granite-flats-1201121636/

Democrat?
The article and infobox describe Elwes as a Democrat, but I’ve not been able to find any sources to state that he is a US citizen (although I have heard people suggest it). If anyone has one, they can add it (and add American to the citizenship section of his infobox). Otherwise, describing him as a Democrat when he isn’t a US citizen (and therefore not able to register as one) is an empty statement. He can support Democratic candidates, yes, but otherwise the statement is meaningless if he is not a US citizen. Cooltrainer Hugh (talk) 22:34, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Supporting role in The Crush
The page says that he had a supporting role in "The Crush" (1993). Not true. He was the leading actor. Dansator (talk) 00:07, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Picture superiority effect

The picture superiority effect refers to the phenomenon in which pictures and images are more likely to be remembered than are words. This effect has been demonstrated in numerous experiments using different methods. It is based on the notion that "human memory is extremely sensitive to the symbolic modality of presentation of event information". Explanations for the picture superiority effect are not concrete and are still being debated, however an evolutionary explanation is that sight has a long history stretching back millions of years and was crucial to survival in the past, whereas reading is a relatively recent invention, and requires specific cognitive processes, such as decoding symbols and linking them to meaning.

History
Allan Paivio's dual-coding theory is a basis of picture superiority effect. Paivio claims that pictures have advantages over words with regards to coding and retrieval of stored memory because pictures are coded more easily and can be retrieved from symbolic mode, while the dual coding process using words is more difficult for both coding and retrieval. Another explanation of the higher recall in picture superiority is the higher familiarity or frequency of pictured objects (Asch & Ebenholtz, 1962). According to dual-coding theory (1971, 1986), memory exists either (or both) verbally or through imagery. Concrete concepts presented as pictures are encoded into both systems; however, abstract concepts are recorded only verbally. In psychology, the effect has implications for salience in attribution theory as well as the availability heuristic. It is also relevant to advertising and user interface design.

Paivio – Dual coding theory
Picture stimuli have an advantage over word stimuli because they are dually encoded; they generate a verbal and image code, whereas word stimuli only generate a verbal code. Pictures are likely to generate a verbal label, whereas words are not likely to generate image labels.

Nelson – Sensory semantic theory
Pictures hold two encoding advantages over words. Pictures are perceptually more distinct from one another than are words, thus increasing their chance for retrieval. In experiments when similarity among pictures was high, no picture superiority effect was present. Pictures are also believed to assess meaning more directly than words. Levels of processing theory apply when words and pictures are compared under semantic study instructions (rate the pleasantness of each item), recall is very similar for pictures and words, as both were encoded at deeper levels.

Picture superiority results from superior encoding for pictures over words, which facilitates greater recollection of pictures.

Weldon and Roediger-transfer appropriate processing theories
Greater overlap of processing at study and test result in increased performance. TAP accounts for picture superiority by an interaction of encoding and retrieval. If items are encoded during a semantic task, performance should be higher for a memory test that relies on concepts related to the items for retrieval than a test that relies on perceptual features.

Evidence
This effect has been shown to occur in recognition memory tasks, where items studied as pictures are better remembered than items studied as words, even when targets are presented as words during the test phase. Whether the picture superiority effect influences the familiarity and/or recollection processes, according to the dual-process models, thought to underlie recognition memory is not clear.

In experiments of associative recognition memory, participants studied random concrete word pairs, and line drawing pairs. They had to discriminate between intact and rearranged pairs at test. The picture superiority effect continued to express a strong effect with a greater hit rate for intact picture pairs. This further supports encoding theories More recent research in associative recognition shows support that semantic meaning of nameable pictures is activated faster than that of words, allowing for more meaningful associations between items depicted as pictures to be generated.

Pictures have distinctive features that enable to distinguish pictures from words and such discriminability increase memory ability in comparison with verbal cues (Jenkins, Neale & Deno, 19 67). Picture Superiority effect was also evident for memory recall during semantic procession (Childers & Houston, 1984 ). Moreover, pictures in pairs or group were better organized in our memory than words thus resulting in superiority in recall (Pavio & Csapo, 1973 ). The picture superiority effect is also present in spatial memory, where locations of items and photographs were remembered better than locations of words.

Critique
The advantage of pictures over words is only evident when visual similarity is a reliable cue; because it takes longer to understand pictures than words (Snodgrass & McCullough, 1986 ). Pictures are only superior to words for list learning because differentiation is easier for pictures (Dominowski & Gadlin, 1968 ). In reverse picture superiority it was observed that learning was much slower when the responses were pictures (Postman, 1978 ). Words produced a faster response than pictures and pictures did not have an advantages of having easier access to semantic memory or superior effect over words for dual-coding theory (Amrhein, McDaniel & Waddill 2002 ). Similarly, studies where response time deadlines have been implemented, the reverse superiority effect was reported. This is related to the dual-process model of familiarity and recollection. When deadlines for the response were short, the process of familiarity was present, along with an increased tendency to recall words over pictures. When response deadlines were longer, the process of recollection was being utilized, and a strong picture superiority effect was present. In addition, equivalent response time was reported for pictures and words for intelligence comparison (Paivio & Marschark, 1980 ). Contrary to the assumption that pictures have faster access to the same semantic code than words do; all semantic information is stored in a single system. The only difference is that pictures and words access different features of the semantic code (te Linde, 1982 ).

With age
Across the lifespan, a gradual development of the picture superiority effect is evident. Some studies have shown that it appears to become more pronounced with age, while others have found that this effect is also observed among younger children (Whitehouse, Mayber, Durkin, 2006 ). However, the major contribution in picture superiority in recognition memory among children was familiarity (Defeyter, Russo & McPartlin, 2009 ). During childhood, specifically among seven-year-olds, the picture superiority effect is lesser in magnitude than in other age groups. This could be due to the lack of inner speech among younger children supporting the dual coding theory of Paivio. In healthy older adults, the picture superiority effect was found to be greater than it was for younger adults, in comparison to recognition for words, which was disadvantaged for older adults. In that regard, seniors can benefit from using pictorial information to retain textual information (Cherry et al., 2008 ). While memory for words is impaired for older adults, pictures help restore their impaired memory and function properly (Ally et al., 2008 ). In addition, older adults have shown the same level of capability for identifying correct items in comparison with young adults when items were accompanied with pictures (Smith, Hunt & Dunlap, 2015). In populations with Alzheimer's disease, and other mild cognitive impairments, the picture superiority effect remains evident. ERP activity indicates that patients with amnesic mild cognitive impairment utilized frontal-lobe based memory processes to support successful recognition for pictures, which was similar to healthy controls, but not for words.

Applications

 * Education (language learning): Learners can structure a mental model when processing a picture initially so that no further model construction may be required for subsequent processing of a text. Presenting picture before text is beneficial to students with low prior knowledge (Eitel & Scheiter, 2015 ). In a similar vein, reading a picture prior to processing textual information improves comprehension levels for students with low prior knowledge (Salmerón, Baccino, Cañas, Madrid, & Fajardo, 2009 ). Pictures can be more effective than word translation for language learning when individuals are not overconfident in the mnemonic power of pictures (Carpenter & Olson, 2011 ). If they are overconfident, pictures lose superiority over words.
 * Health communication: A study by Ally, Gold and Budson (2009) confirm that picture superiority effect was observed among mild Alzheimer's disease (AD) and amnestic-type mild cognitive impairment (MC). Pictures have a significantly positive effect on four areas of communication: attention, comprehension, recall, and intention/adherence. Health education materials can benefit greatly by adding pictures as pictures can be especially beneficial for people who lack literacy skill (Houts, C.Doak, L.Doak &Loscalzo, 2006 ). Picture superiority effect can be implemented in creating materials for health communication that inclusion of fearful or disgusting images led to improved recognition memory in comparison with the condition without a presence of image (Leshner, Vultee, Bolls & Moore, 2010 ).
 * Advertising: Percy and Rossiter (1997, p. 295) stated, "The picture is the most important structural element in magazine advertising, for both consumer and business audiences." Visually framed messages were more effective under the condition where the audience was less motivated and had less ability to process information semantically. Visual ads require less exposure than verbal ads for long-term memory effect (Childers & Houston, 1984 ). The pictorial component in the ad is more likely to be viewed before words, and it generates an expectation for the verbal component of the ad (Houston, Childers & Heckler, 1987 ). Maximizing the size of pictures regardless of advertising contents will improve attention to the entire advertisement as pictures draw significant attention to baseline in the ads (Pieters & Wedel, 2004 ).

Direction for future studies

 * Clinical setting to evaluate pictures for health communication (Houts, C.Doak, L.Doak &Loscalzo, 2006 )
 * Empirical studies on simplicity of picture for encoding and decoding the pictorial information

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Lao spelling
I wonder about the spelling of the Lao word "ລຳໂຈທຍ໌". Lao spelling is usually completely phonetic, avoiding silent letters, and only using the letters for the voiced stops for syllable-final stops. In accordance with these rules, I would argue that the proper Lao spelling of this word should be "ລຳໂຈດ". V85 (talk) 22:01, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

 * I have managed to get hold of a Lao dictionary. While it contains neither 'ລຳໂຈທຍ໌' nor 'ລຳໂຈດ', it does have the word 'ໂຈດ' with the same meaning as the Thai 'โจทย์'. I would therefore argue that the proper Lao spelling should be 'ລຳໂຈດ', as I suggested earlier. V85 (talk) 16:59, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

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Miller is listed in Sources with three entries, including the Garland Encyclopedia. The Miller citations in the body of the article are unclear: to which source do they refer? I am not familiar with these works so have not tried to fix. Seligne (talk) 18:58, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Fake information
Pornsak Songsaeng Sommainoi Duangcharoen Siriporn Ampaipong Somjit Borthong Noknoi Uraiporn Sathit Thongjan Jintara Poonlarp Honey Sri-Isan Man Maneewan Monkhaen Kaenkoon Maithai Huajaisilp Dueanphen Amnuaiporn Saeng-arun Bunyu Banyen Rakgan Chalermpol Malakham Poyfai Malaiporn Christy Gibson Tai Orathai Phai Phongsathon Mike Phiromphon Yinglee Srijumpol Ble Patumrach R-Siam Lamyai Haithongkham - All them are Thai artists, born and raised in Thailand and can produce Morlam/ lukthung songs ON THEIR OWN. - Stop claiming works of Isan people. Isan people has never protested to be annexed to Laos. It's Laotians who always keep up with Thailand and has been keeping up with Thai media over decades. MTha2557 (talk) 04:40, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

 * Hi there! I'm confused by your issue with the article.  The article does not say those artists are from Laos.  The first sentence of the article says it is music from Laos and Isan.  It does not say Isan is part of Laos. Ronsaur (talk) 04:59, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * . The article does not say those artists are from Laos, but don't bother mentioning they're Thai? MTha2557 (talk) 05:39, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * - There are at least 50 Lao-subethnic in Isan region and Laos. There's no one Lao. 7 million people should not speak for 20 million people. Stop claiming Isan is Laos. Laos doesn't consist of one ethnic group either. MTha2557 (talk) 05:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Morlam had its birth in the Lao heartlands of Laos, where it remains a popular art form. ---> claim to be the origin, but there are only 3-4 Laotian artists from the lists. MTha2557 (talk) 05:49, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shrek 3

Article about a movie in the storyboard stage. Incomprehensible. Will probably become a real article once the movie is released two years down the road, but the current article there is ridiculous. Yelyos 03:34, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)
 * Moved to speedy delete. Even if that movie were released that article shouldn't stand. Incomprehensible drivel. -R. fiend 04:08, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. I've stubified it. Andrewa 07:10, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete, they haven't even written the thing yet. -- Cyrius|✎ 07:11, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Cookiecaper 07:15, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. This has obviously satisfied someone in adding another article, but until it is made (and if it is made - anything could happen) this does not even warrant a stub. Dainamo 10:11, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge into a redirect to Shrek or perhaps Dreamworks SKG. See What's in, what's out. Brief mentions of verifiable information regarding statements of future plans could properly appear in, most appropriately, Dreamworks SKG, where it is already listed as a film in production, or Shrek, to which it is a planned sequel. Such information could also be mentioned in articles about Jeffrey Price or Peter S. Seaman or Jon Zack or Mike Myers, Eddie Murphy, Cameron Diaz. There should not be entire articles about things that do not yet exist. For one thing, in the case of things that will soon be announced, this lends Wikipedia to the cause of promoting or creating "buzz" about them. For another, no facts about the future are verifiable. Wikipedia is not a Hollywood gossip column. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 10:14, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * P. S. Such a merge and redirect could and should have been done by anyone. There was no need to bring this to VfD. There's nothing much wrong with the article except its having been created as a main entry. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 10:16, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Articles on things that do not exist - well, I'm not in favour of that as a blanket rule, since we already have articles on things that we know are going to exist (e.g. 2008 Summer Olympics). Given the high profits of the first two films, it's highly likely to be made, but any article should only state clear and verifiable facts, not Hollywood gossip. But I'd say it doesn't deserve an article until they actually start filming, so merge. Average Earthman 10:22, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Well, now that you mention it, don't you think 2008 Summer Olympics really should be entitled 2008 Summer Olympic Plans or something of the sort? But I'm not going on any personal crusade about this. A lot of my feelings regard what I perceive as either a) attempts to use Wikipedia to create buzz, promote, and give credibility to upcoming things, or b) an egotistical interest in articles rather than adding to existing articles. Just my $0.02. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 10:58, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * No, not really. I'm quite happy with the 2008 Summer Olympics link as it is, but we should be very strict on this sort of thing. If something is one of a major series of things that are guaranteed to happen, such as the Olympics or a US presidential election, then we can have a page on it before it actually happens. Major (and I mean really major) products should also have an article beforehand, but only if really, really important (e.g. Windows Longhorn or Playstation 3) and significant work is already underway. Basically things so significant they don't need Wikipedia to hype them up. Average Earthman 14:25, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: I've made Shrek 3 into a redirect to Shrek and inserted a very slightly reworded version of the previous Shrek 3 content into Shrek. Entire previous content is shown below: [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 11:04, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Shrek 3 is a sequel to the highly successful Shrek and Shrek 2, planned for release in 2006.

 * As of August 2004, the only announced members of the crew were the writing team of Jeffrey Price, Peter S. Seaman and Jon Zack, and the three lead voices from the previous movies, Mike Myers as Shrek, Eddie Murphy as the donkey, and Cameron Diaz as Princess Fiona.

 * External Links: IMDB entry

I can live with this solution. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:14, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree; Shrek 3 should exist, and it should redirect to Shrek. Which it does. Keep.
 * Redirect and move information as stated. Wikipedia is not supposed to contain articles that are News reports. This policy is too much ignored. Jallan 14:32, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Comment: So what's 2004 Atlantic Hurricane Season and Hurricane Charley? :) --Golbez 16:57, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Exactly. They are up-to-the-date news reports or articles very, very close to being that. Where exactly you draw the line is debatable and perhaps should be debated. For me, making a separate article out of an official studio announcements about a proposed film planned for release two years from now is definitely over the line for an article. Jallan 20:07, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I consider the news report style on those articles to merely be an artifact of trying to write about them in real time. -- Cyrius|✎ 21:16, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck ... From What Wikipedia is not"A news report. Wikipedia should not offer news reports on breaking stories. But of course creating encyclopedia articles on topics currently in the news is an excellent idea. See current events for some examples. (However, the Wiki process lends itself to collaborative, up-to-the-minute construction of current events of historical significance, as long as these are written as encyclopedia articles.) When updating articles with recent news, authors should use the past-tense in such a way that the news will still make sense when read years from now."News report sytle is likely to be an artifact of an article actually being a news report. If you can't write it as an encyclopedia article, if the results sound like a news report, then you are probably going against the above. Tidbits about future films are mostly nothing but news reports on very slowly breaking stories. There is a fine line here, and I can see why people can honestly disagree on which side of the line an article belongs and can vote accordingly. Jallan 00:02, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete future movie. Rossami 00:34, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. As redirect if best. --Dittaeva 11:38, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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North American XB-21

The North American XB-21 (manufacturer's model designation NA-21) and sometimes referred to by the name "Dragon", was a prototype bomber aircraft developed by North American Aviation in the late 1930s, for evaluation by the United States Army Air Corps. Evaluated against the Douglas B-18 Bolo, it was found to be considerably more expensive than the rival aircraft, and despite the ordering of a small number of evaluation aircraft, only the prototype was ever built.

Design and development
North American Aviation's first twin-engined military aircraft, the NA-21 prototype was constructed at North American's factory in Inglewood, California, where work on the aircraft began in early 1936. The NA-21 was a mid-wing monoplane of all-metal construction, powered by two Pratt & Whitney R-2180-A Twin Hornet radial engines, which were fitted with turbosuperchargers for increased high-altitude performance.

Flown by a crew of six to eight men, the XB-21 featured a remarkably strong defensive armament for the time, including as many as five .30-calibre M1919 machine guns. These were planned to be fitted in hydraulically powered nose and dorsal turrets, in addition to manually operated weapons installed in waist and ventral positions. Up to 10000 lb of bombs could be carried in an internal bomb bay, with 2200 lb of bombs being able to be carried over a range of 1900 mi.

Testing and evaluation
Undertaking its maiden flight on 22 December 1936 at Mines Field in Los Angeles, test flights indicated a number of minor problems. Modifications resolving these resulted in the aircraft being re-designated NA-39, and, accepted by the US Army Air Corps as the XB-21. The aircraft, which had been assigned the serial number 38-485, was evaluated early the following year in competition against a similar design by Douglas Aircraft, an improved version of the company's successful B-18 Bolo.

During the course of flight testing, the gun turrets proved troublesome, their drive motors proving to be underpowered, and issues with wind blast through the gun slots were also encountered. As a result of these problems, the XB-21's nose turret was faired over, while the dorsal turret was removed.

The XB-21 proved to have superior performance over its competitor, but price became the primary factor distinguishing the Bolo and the XB-21. On this account, the modified B-18 was declared the winner of the competition, Douglas quoting a price per aircraft of US$64,000, while North American's estimate was US$122,000 per aircraft, and an order was placed for 177 of the Douglas aircraft, to be designated B-18A.

Despite this, the US Army Air Corps found the performance of the XB-21 to have been favorable enough to order five pre-production aircraft, to be designated YB-21. However, soon after this contract was awarded, it was cancelled, and none of the YB-21s were ever built, leaving the XB-21 as the sole example of the type ever constructed. Operated by North American Aviation, the XB-21 served as a research aircraft until its retirement.

Although the XB-21 failed to win a production contract, it was the first of a long line of North American Aviation medium bomber aircraft, and provided experience and knowledge that assisted in the development of the North American NA-40, which, developed into the B-25 Mitchell, would become one of the Army's standard medium bombers of World War II.

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Von Restorff effect

The Von Restorff effect, also known as the "isolation effect", predicts that when multiple homogeneous stimuli are presented, the stimulus that differs from the rest is more likely to be remembered. The theory was coined by German psychiatrist and pediatrician Hedwig von Restorff (1906–1962), who, in her 1933 study, found that when participants were presented with a list of categorically similar items with one distinctive, isolated item on the list, memory for the item was improved.

The study utilized the isolation paradigm, which refers to a distinctive feature of an item in a list that differs from the others by way of dimension. Such distinctiveness, leading to the von Restorff effect, can be generated from changing the meaningfulness or physical nature of the stimulus in some way, such as in size, shape, color, spacing and underlining.

Examples
For example, if a person examines a shopping list with one item highlighted in bright green, he or she will be more likely to remember the highlighted item than any of the others. Additionally, in the following list of words – desk, chair, bed, table, chipmunk, dresser, stool, couch – "chipmunk" will be remembered the most as it stands out against the other words in its meaning.

Explanation
There are different theories proposed to explain the increased performance of isolated items. The total-time hypothesis suggests that isolated items are rehearsed for a longer time in working memory compared to non-isolated items. Another approach offers that subjects could consider the isolated items to be in their own special category in a free-recall task, making them easier to recollect. A separate explanation is based upon the analysis of the deep processing of similarities and differences among the items. Debate surrounds whether perceptual salience and differential attention are necessary to produce this effect. Modern theory holds that the contextual incongruity of the isolate is what leads to the differential attention to this item. Based on this assumption, an isolation effect would not be expected if the isolated item were presented prior to some consistent context, a theory that goes against von Restorff's findings.

Empirical data has shown a strong relationship between the von Restorff effect and measures of event-related potential in the brain. Specifically, evidence has shown that exposure to novel or isolated items on a list for free recall generates an ERP with a larger amplitude and this amplitude in turn predicts a higher likelihood of future recall and faster recognition of the items.

Age
There have been many studies that demonstrate and confirm the von Restorff effect in children and young adults. Another study found that college-aged students performed better when trying to remember an outstanding item in a list during an immediate memory-task whereas elderly individuals did not remember it well, suggesting a difference in processing strategies between the age groups.

In yet another study, although a significant von Restorff effect was produced amongst both age groups when manipulating font color, it was found to be smaller in older adults than younger adults. This too indicates that older people display lesser benefits for distinctive information compared to younger people.

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