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April 2009
My apologies. Upon looking at the information, I see now why you were removing the template. I monitor the recent changes, and your removing a large portion of content repeatedly without justifying it in the edit summary appeared suspicious and was reverted. To avoid confusion in the future, may I suggest that you make use of the edit summary? This will ensure that any edits you that make in good faith aren't immediately reverted. Again, sorry for the confusion. (And may I suggest you review Talk page guidelines?) Thanks, Ono (talk) 14:55, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

 * It is nice to see an editor taking an interest in some of the tens of thousands of articles that are all but abandoned. I thank you for your efforts to bring these articles up to date. Thanks, Ono (talk) 15:18, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Scots language
Don't sweat it. I'd rather know about any mistakes, no matter how small. But no I don't use a bot. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 01:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

Why i edit International RL Players
How can players just be called an Australian player when they havent played for them even when they have what about the other country they are allowed to represent are they just forgotten and the international rl eligibilty rule is a joke hayne can play for fiji one year then play for australia and tonie carrol can play for australia and new zealand so it doesnt matter any way as to what international rl category they are as long as they are able to represent them if they have a grand father/mother or father then they can play for them and i have to edit the international league pages to show how much players can represent the weaker teams for people who dont know much about international league i hope you understand why edit the way i do and hope you let me continue my editing in the future as its only fair to include all the countries they are able to represent under the current eligibility rules.58.165.209.77 (talk) 10:36, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
 * RL players are called Australian even when they haven't represented Australia because they have Australian nationality. Offiah doesn't have a Nigerian passport, wasn't born there, didn't grow up there and didn't play representative sport for them.GordyB (talk) 12:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Rugby union in Africa
Thanks for adding cats to this. This was the continent I was least looking forward too (too many damn countries - Asia would be in the same boat, if more Asians played!)

I pinched the idea of rugby union by continent from the RL pages. It's not meant to supersede the "by country" pages, but should hopefully fill a gap, as many RU competitions are transnational.--MacRusgail (talk) 18:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Mungoball
I have reverted your blanking of the redirect page. If you wish to see it deleted, take it to WP:AfD. Drmies (talk) 19:05, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Indeed I will but in the meantime there is no need for an abusive term to have a redirect page.GordyB (talk) 20:26, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't say I approve of your edit summary; where I'm from that's a bit callous, and very pointy, to say the least. And you're right in the sense that it doesn't redirect to African-Americans, but oh so wrong in all other senses: the term has its own article. Anyway, I saw you took it to AfD and that is the right step. Drmies (talk) 23:08, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Referring to people as sub-humans because of the sport they play doesn't count as "callous"? Some double standard there. Nigger is significant enough in its own right to warrant an article "mungoball" is not but terms of abuse should certainly not redirect to those that they abuse.GordyB (talk) 12:06, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Opinion please!
What do you make of this - Rugby Soccer? --MacRusgail (talk) 20:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

 * Thanks. I was unsure whether it was real or not. Maybe someone saw the name "rugby football", and changed it to "soccer" I don't know. Part of the reason for my uncertainty is that some genuinely bizarre hybrids do exist, such as football tennis and chess boxing--MacRusgail (talk) 16:58, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Soviet Union
Thanks for the edit. I would appreciate any comments on the article... I think currently it talks a bit too much about the political set up, although this is important.

However, I've just come up with a new piece of evidence, which suggests that rugby football was indeed played in Russia as far back as the 1880s (which puts it way before the split, and the 1908 date given). What's more surprising, perhaps, is that it transpires that rugby may predate soccer in the Russian Empire!

I've gone through a book by James Riordan called Sport in the Soviet Union, which was published back in the 1970s. It's turned out to be a real goldmine, and has resolved some of the contradictory information that I had been given in sources elsewhere (such as rugby being banned during a period in which other sources claim it was being played). There isn't a vast amount on rugby union in it, but more than enough to go on, and what's there is more than enough to sort out a few of the issues.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:39, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks for your kind advice. I need to get the Huw Richards information in there, and also I'll try and fill out the story of Llanelli in Moscow which looks an interesting one. It's been hard to track down some of the information - I've even used the National Library of Scotland to source some of it. My philosophy is that while most readers of Wikipedia will head for articles on the 6N, Jonny & Jonah, that they're well served elsewhere (online and off), and that it is difficult (impossible?) for us to improve on them. However, on a subject like this, I think it's quite possible for us to be the best - probably also on Tier 2 nations as well. The article should have stuff in it, which one can't find elsewhere online (at least not in English)

Still, I reckon Soviet rugby must be a big historical "what if?" If the USSR had survived a decade more, and if they had got into the first RWC, then I think we would have seen teams of at least the calibre of Romania. (Probably full of steroids and shamateurs!) Instead they took the huff at SA, which wasn't even in it, and by the time '91 had come around, the USSR was dead. (Which was good in some ways, but a disaster for the game). Unless the old SA etc counts, and pre-WWII Italy and Japan, rugby doesn't seem to thrive in dictatorships. Romania's definitely the odd one out in that regard. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Sport glossaries
I have nominated sport glossaries for renaming to Category:Glossaries of sports. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 00:16, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * No objection.GordyB (talk) 10:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

See
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rugby league and discussYoundbuckerz (talk) 09:52, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

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CfD nomination of Category:US rugby union teams
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Can you have a look at this please?
I could do with your input here please - Talk:List of Jews in sports--MacRusgail (talk) 11:41, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Rugby Forum
Given that The Rugby Forum covers NRL and Super League, it spans both "flavours" of rugby, union and league. Accordingly, it is rightfully in the categories of both, and it rightfully should not be referred to as a "rugby union" site, but generically a "rugby" site. —C.Fred (talk) 20:34, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

 * I too would like to lend my voice to this. While some wording can, and will be looked at, it is not a rugby union only site. One of the owners is primarily a rugby league supporter.  The appropriate term would be either just rugby or rugby football.  We can then look at which sections pertain more to union or more to league. Rowlan (talk) 09:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * I also would like to throw my 2 cents in. Stop editing the article for which you have no knowledge of.  If you are a rugby league fan then all well and good and it would be welcoming to get you onto the forum but don't edit the article please when you have no idea of the forum. Welshman25 (talk) 09:33, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

 * In response to your last message, no one has nominated any rugby league players to be inducted into the Hall of Fame at TRF. So your argument is invalid and shows that you have only glanced over the top and not got involved with the members.  Its quite rich when people like yourself edit pages that they lack any knowledge of the subject purely for the fact they think they know better and show a good level of arrogance when told better. Welshman25 (talk) 10:28, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Featherstone RUFC
Hi, I notice that you have made contributions to the Featherstone article. The current rugby league club, Featherstone Rovers, wasn't founded until 1902, and appears to have no links to the earlier rugby union (RU) club. However, I have contributed to an article about James "Jimmy" Metcalfe, and I have found details of him playing for Yorkshire (RU) in 1896/7 while playing at Featherstone (RU), would you have any information about the RU club of the 1800s in Featherstone. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:22, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response, if you could ask at a rugby league forum, that'd be great. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:39, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your work on adding the detail about Featherstone (Trinity) RUFC, to the Featherstone Rovers article. Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 09:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * Sorry for getting around to this article late, there's a bit of a backlog at copyright patrol just now. I've tagged the section as being a close paraphrase of the source. I think that it does need to be rewritten in your own words from scratch, since it's clear that you did follow the source, and it remains very close in parts. Just for an example of where it follows closely, you wrote:
 * where the source says
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2008 Heineken Cup Final up for deletion
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York meetup
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Wigan St Patricks
Nope, I removed the info deliberately - entirely unreferenced, OR, POV... GiantSnowman 20:53, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * If it's a list of all players who played for WSP and then went on to be professional - state that. You also need to start adding references ASAP cos if there's anything unreferenced on there, it's gonna get removed. The irony of your 1RR userbox... GiantSnowman 21:03, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Tag it with under construction then - and why can't you add references at the same time as adding info? That's kinda how you're supposed to edit... GiantSnowman 21:14, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Apologies. GiantSnowman 23:04, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

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 * You got away with deleting this last time because you didn't bother to tell either of the two rugby Wikiprojects what you were doing. I don't know what your agenda is but you are unlikely to get away with it this time. Any fool can see that it is notable.GordyB (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
 * You are an experienced editor, so I'm not going to slap a template on your talk page. But I am going to ask you to make very sure that you do not again copy-paste copyright material into Wikipedia. To do so is against policy, for very good reasons that must be obvious to you; it also damages the project because people can spend time working on what has been added, only to find that it has to be deleted down the road. That is my agenda, by the way, since you ask.
 * You've already been told that the Wikiprojects were notified of the previous PROD; the creator of that copyvio article was also notified. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 01:32, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * No, they weren't. This time there have been at least three other people involved after I contacted the three wikipedia projects last night. Last time you got your own way because nobody else knew about it and there were thus no dissenting opinions. Amazing how people bothered to vote this time when they didn't last time. It is also amazing that nobody but you has voted for "delete". And if you bothered to check the facts you'd have noticed that I didn't edit the article last time around so any copy-vio is nothing to do with me.GordyB (talk) 18:26, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry, but this time you do get a template. The first other article of yours I looked at contained copy-pasted material. That's very worrying, and raises concerns about your other edits. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:18, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I've been editing articles for 11 years and this is the first time that anyone has had a problem with supposedly "copy / pasted" text. Perhaps it's not me with the ethics problem. Oh and and just checked the details - the "copy-vio" is three sentences that are referenced and not reprinted verbatim either.GordyB (talk) 18:29, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

Iffley Road
GordyB, can the copy-vio tag be removed or does that require an admin? I've never seen one of those. Also, I've been looking for more sources, I've even tried the Thame Gazette. SW3 5DL (talk) 17:07, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * Fuck this witch hunt. Suddenly now you have attribute when you move data from one Wikipedia page to another. I've been editing since 2003. There was no such rule in place in 2003 nor was there this paranoia about copyright. Now you want to go through 11 years of contributions. Well good luck with that one. In the meantime many of my articles on rugby clubs' history were copy-pasted by the clubs and stuck on their website. No doubt I'll be the one deemed guilty. The Wikilawyers and deletionists seem to have taken over. Sadly the "don't be a dick" rule seems to have been lost. Seriously the article on close paraphrasing that I was advised to read only had its first draft in 2009, I'd been editing for six years before that, how was I supposed to have read it?GordyB (talk) 22:58, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * GordyB, I'm with you, while looking for references I've found that Wikipedia articles to which I initiated and have been the majority contributor have been cut 'n' paste to external websites, which is fair enough, but I wouldn't take too kindly to it if I was then accused of plagiarism. This seems like self-important bureaucrats creating work to enhance their pompous belief that they in fact indispensable and they have the cheek to ask the WikiProject Rugby league to undertake the donkey work, what a set of cunts. Personally, if I'd been subject to the witch hunt you have, I'd tell Wikipedia and its self-serving bureaucrats fuck right off... and relax. Best Regards DynamoDegsy (talk) 08:41, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you shouldn't be acting like a victim here GordyB. There may be external websites that have just copied-and-pasted from wikipedia (which is bad for us all), but you have clearly copied-and-pasted from copyright sources. I don't necessarily think it was malicious, but it happened. It can be pretty easy to check, looking at archives from archive.org/web from before the edits for example. In other cases you actually mentioned in the edit summary that you got the material from an external site (which is why I'm not convinced what you've done is malicious -- but regardless, it's still a problem)! For example, , and from the ARU. In others it was so clear it's not funny -- for example  from  -- your edit was 2006, but this snapshot  was from 2005. The problem is now we can't be sure which of your edits were copyright infringements and which weren't. This sucks for all involved, so please don't get upset -- you should be apologising. --  Shudde  talk 09:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Self-appointed, self-serving, self-important, self, self, self, whether in the real world or virtual, there’s always someone who feel that it’s their right have dominion over others, hiding behind a curtain of rules and regulations that were not democratically agreed upon, and that only the self-appointed, self-serving, self-important can even bother to read. Those who can do; those who can’t appoint themselves as a bureaucrat, standing on the shoulders of others, trying to achieve some semblance of notability in their sad little world by doing others down. DynamoDegsy (talk) 10:31, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I assume by "rules and regulations that were not democratically agreed upon" you don't include copyright law? What will you say to a lawyer from the BBC or the Australian Rugby Union, or wherever else that asks: "why is our copyrighted material on your website and listed under a CC licence"? Maybe you cant rant to them and see what they say? By the way, I create content ("Those that do"), I don't rip-off other people's as my own. -- Shudde  talk 11:15, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Even if you were correct and there is a direct cut ’n’ paste, I doubt whether, e.g. Banglacricket (The home of the Tigers’ cricket) can claim a copyright, even if they stick a © symbol on their website. They’ve had 9-years to complain, so Banglacricket are obviously not as troubled by it as you are. If the BBC or the Australian Rugby Union were to complain about any Wikipedia content, apart from being a public relations disaster for them, all that would happen is an agreement to take down the offending content. 97-articles in 8-years; don’t knock yourself out will you. As an aside you say you “fell into editing rugby related articles years ago”, you haven’t you “fell into editing rugby union related articles years ago”, please correct this error immediately as I don’t want to be associated with the likes of you. DynamoDegsy (talk) 12:25, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * I am correct, and it doesn't have to be a direct cut-n'paste (see WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE). The Contributor copyright investigation isn't an injustice, so stop crying about it. It's also up to 990 articles not just the ones he created; they could be deleted, and I'm not happy about it. If you don't care about copyright, you should probably not be editing (being one of the five pillars and all -- Wikipedia is free content). Sorry mate, but rugby is rugby union pretty much everywhere, including where I'm from. I'll call the sport, or any sport, what I want (especially on my own userpage). But meh, I shouldn't be biting as you're resorting to random attacks now -- get over the investigation, it's trying to address a significant problem, and not some great conspiracy. Time to let it go. -- Shudde  talk 13:10, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
 * "Significant problem" my arse, as you’re so bothered about it why don't you take a couple of months off from article creation and "correct" the situation, I'm sure Wikipedia can manage without the 2-articles you'd have created in that time. DynamoDegsy (talk)

 * User:GordyB, it is understandable that in the early years you may not have understood the requirement of the license for moving content from one page to another, but Wikipedia's copyright rules have always forbidden stuff like this:

This is just one example. This is not a close paraphrase, although the more recent guideline may help you avoid issues of that sort, which you have also had. This is a direct copy-paste. You put this content on Wikipedia on 9/27/2004. The archived link above shows that they did not copy it from you. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:11, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

For GordyB's eyes only...
Look at them, just fucking look at them, these fucking bureaucrats love making a drama out of anything. There'll soon be more fucking bureaucrats than editors, and more fucking guidelines than articles. I'm really close to a tipping point with this shower of fucking gobshites. DynamoDegsy (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

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I think the category name "United States people" (or possibly "U.S. people" if brevity is prefered for some reason) would be more appropirate and better in line with naming conventions here at Wikipedia when talking about people from the United States. -- Infrogmation 21:31, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I second that. If no one votes against in two weeks, I will move this category to category:United States people. Mikkalai 19:14, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Please cite the Wikipedia naming convention which supports this contention. I object to the proposed move. RickK 19:35, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * If you oppose, I will start adding people from Canada and Chile, and bet you will not find an article in wikipedia that will forbid me doing this. Let's be reasonable here. I know that the President of the USA likes to address to "American people", but America is biger than that, man.Mikkalai 20:50, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * United States make me to back off. BTW, the same usage note is applicable to Russian language as well. Mikkalai 21:01, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 * There is a List of people from the United States. People didn't want it to be called List of Americans, see the discussion about the naming. But this category can't be named People from United States, because it doesn't match with other category names in Category:People by nationality. Let's wait another two weeks if we will get a proper argument against the name change. -Hapsiainen 21:02, Nov 16, 2004 (UTC)

So what was decided here?Mejor Los Indios (talk) 09:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion for new subcategory
I have an idea for a new subcategory...

I'd like to see a subcategory exclusively for natural-born U.S. citizens born outside the United States. There might be some difficulty with a proper name for the category. For example, "foreign-born U.S. citizens" would be too inclusive, as that would include naturalized citizens, who already have their own category.

I can think of a few people off the top of my head, with Wikipedia articles, who would fall into this category:
 * Shawn Bradley
 * John McEnroe
 * George Romney
 * Earnie Stewart
 * Dominique Wilkins

There should be enough additional people to fill a category.

Any takers? Dale Arnett 06:16, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Shouldn't ALL people of the United States--current citizens--be placed in this category? I realize that's a large project, but it should be done or this list is inevitably selective and incomplete.

people in Category American people
This category includes 26 sub-categories, most of which are not mutually exclusive. A person in 'American people' could belong to many of the sub-categories that exist now and could belong to additional sub-categories created in the future. There are also 99 individual people articles in the 'American people' category. This is by no means a complete list of all the people that appear in all the subcategories of the 'American people' category. And there is no indication of why these articles are directly under 'American people' and not just in one or more of its subcategories. Should the 'American people' category be made into a supercategory that is just composed of categories? If not, what should it be? Thanks Hmains 17:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I presume it should include everyone with American nationality regardless how many other American subcategories the person is categorized in. This will make the category very large but in this case, as with, might be acceptable. I'll support the project but before I start adding all the Americans to this category, I want to make sure I have the approval of at least five other users. Pink moon 1287
 * I'll suggest creating a page that lists all of the many subcategories, like a directory. Pink moon 1287

So many Americans
Am I the only one who finds it strange that [Category:American people] is a subcategory of [Category:North American people]? Shouldn't it be the other way around?Mejor Los Indios (talk) 09:22, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

 * I agree with you that it should be vice versa, and it is why this page has been on my watchlist for long. To answer your question from above "So what was decided here?Mejor Los Indios (talk) 09:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)", I followed the discussions on AFD (links from the redlinks above). Here is what I found: Articles for deletion/List of people from the United States - I haven't read it all. I know that there is American (word) article where this subject is heavily treated. Similar situation is with United Kingdom people and British people categories, which affect Northern Ireland people subcategories. All the best. --Biblbroks's talk 16:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

 * Thanks Biblbroks. I'm going to make a proposal below.Mejor Los Indios (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Renaming
I propose this category be the parent category for all people of the Americas, rather than just the US of America as it is at present. I'm not entirely sure how to go about this, so advice is welcome.Mejor Los Indios (talk) 13:43, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We can define the term American either way, but most automatically assume the way it is now so we should keep it as is. Richardc020 (talk) 21:10, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi. I am not sure that the argument of frequency of people's assumptions is more important than the argument of existence of other meaning(s) (which are at least more precise, if not even less biased). I took the liberty in interpreting your comment with such summarization - i apologize, if i have made a mistake in this interpretation. In general, i think this poses a complex question of educative features vs. "stating the facts" features of Wikipedia. By "Wikipedia" i mean here the term Wikipedia as described in Wikipedia article's lede - the ..."multilingual" encyclopedia project. Best regards, --biblbroks (talk) 09:42, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Category:Asian_American_athletes
Category:Asian_American_athletes says
 * 20:43, 20 February 2006 Freakofnurture (talk | contribs) deleted "Category:Asian American athletes"  (content was: '<center>Classification:American people:By ethnicity:[[:category:Asia...')

What's wrong with having ethnic-related categories? There're many such on Wikipedia. I propose a reinstatement of that categeory. Richardc020 (talk) 05:27, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 * From my experience ethnic-related categories usually cause trouble. I remember reading a guideline that touches this issue, but I can't find it currently. Let me demonstrate this with a question: if Category:Asian American athletes category should exist, why not Category:American Asian athletes also. Not that I know such athletes exist, but are you sure they don't? All the best, --Biblbroks (talk) 08:01, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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 * Well, I reverted my own edit… Does it count? I guess it shouldn't… --Mammique (talk) 08:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * It doesn't count, but another user said that you were reverting him multiple times on that article. Since I wasn't 100% sure, I should've used the softer version, but it is formatted for newbies. Best, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 11:43, 13 July 2012 (UTC).
 * I wasn't reverting, he/she reverted my commit (with arguments: didn't want blogs nor youtube as source), so fixed the sources in new commits, it wasn't exactly reverting. The only real revert I made was against my own ommit (because I checked "minor edit", but it wasn't, so I reverted it and recommited without the flag). --Mammique (talk) 11:57, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
 * In the future, if you want to add something substantial like that, may I suggest starting a discussion on the talk page first? This article is featured, which means additions have to be carefully vetted and sourced before addition, and also very controversial, so it's best to work things out in discussion beforehand.  Serendi pod ous  10:48, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll do that when I can find some time to dive in the discussion page. --Mammique (talk) 11:56, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

The Corbett Report is now Draft:James Corbett (journalist)
You contributed to The Corbett Report article created 27 March, 2013 but on 10 November, 2015 it was nominated for and was deleted. I was unaware of that deleted article when I started a new Draft:James Corbett (journalist) on 19 May, 2016 that was rejected. I've been revising it here and there since. Recent events spurred me on (feel free to ask me or watch this video then read the TCR comments section (not the YouTube comments) for the full disclosure of my involvement: https://www.corbettreport.com/what-i-learned-from-the-propornot-propaganda-list/ ). I discovered the deleted article and folded it into the new draft. Feel free to contribute as you like. ~  JasonCarswell   (talk)   22:17, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

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Forfeit

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 * Forfeit, a 2007 thriller film starring Billy Burke
 * "Forfeit", a song by Chevelle from Wonder What's Next
 * Forfeit/Fortune, a 2008 album by Crooked Fingers

Law

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