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Talk:Marylebone station

Platforms
Is it me, or does the station only have four platforms? Sure it did last week... I have no idea when they shut the two, but i think they are planning to reopen them. Harris 23:45, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Stations
I fail to see why what should be separate articles on the tube and the overground railways are merged into a single WP article here; they have different histories, different owners, etc. Cross-linked, certainly, but should be separate; for a start the route box is for one only! --Vamp:Willow 11:22, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * Firstly, for reasons of consistency with the other London terminal stations. Of these all but Charing Cross and the Kings Cross/St Pancras complex have merged station articles, as do most non-terminal joint stations. Both the two exceptions are, I suspect, because the relationship between the LUL and NR stations is not 1:1; Kings Cross and St Pancras NR stations share one LUL station, and the author of the Charing Cross article thinks Charing Cross NR station links to two LUL stations (Charing Cross and Embankment) although I'm not totally convinced by that.

 * Secondly, because Marylebone is a single building. The LUL platforms are accessed via exactly the same concourse as the Chiltern Trains platforms; the two ticket offices must be all of 20 feet apart.

 * Thirdly, it seems perverse to have a merged article for Waterloo, with four distinct station sections (Mainline, East, International and Underground), and two seperate little articles for tiny Marylebone. Two different histories can easily be accomodated in one article; and frankly how much history is there to the Bakerloo line platforms at Marylebone.

 * Fourthly, there is no reason why the route box cannot cater for the whole station. This is already commonplace at LUL stations served by more than one line. OwenBlacker (and possibly others) has started creating route boxes for London NR stations; see Farringdon station for an example of a LUL/NR station with a route box covering both sets of services. I imagine this will eventually roll out across all London NR stations.

 * --Chris j wood 19:55, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Location
Is Marylebone station located in Marylebone or Lisson Grove? Simply south 19:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Location
Can people help develop the location portion of the article similar to that in the page for Paddington, maybe mentioning Lord's, Regents Park and Madame Tussads? Ironman1503 9 August 2008, 11.16 (UTC)

Not sure about this
"Chiltern trains made the station the terminus for a new intercity service to Birmingham's Snow Hill station" - as mentioned by several people on uk.railway today, Marylebone-Snow Hill through services were running before privatisation: 1993 seems to be the start date. Not as frequent as today, to be sure, but they were there. 81.159.57.7 (talk) 17:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Regions
"Long-distance trains from Marylebone began to be scaled back from 1958 after the line's transfer from BR's Eastern Region to the London Midland Region". I have a problem here. It is true that at Nationalisation, Marylebone, being an ex-LNER station, was placed in the Eastern Region. It's also true that in 1958 it was transferred to the London Midland Region. My problem is that the text suggests that this was a direct transfer; however, according to two sources, it was WR-LMR: Bonavia uses the word "finally" because he was writing before the transfer from LMR back to WR on 11 October 1987.

Thus, what we lack is the ER-WR transfer, which must have happened before 1958. -- Red rose64 (talk) 14:22, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

 * I had no idea it was ever part of the WR. Mac Hawkins in "The Great Central then and now" makes no mention of it: he just says "Following nationalisation and the subsequent transfer of the system in 1958 to the London Midland Region ...." (p.10), which seems to imply that he thought it went straight from ER to LMR. But Hawkins is not everywhere entirely free of errors, and your Railway Magazine quote seems likely to be reliable. On the other hand, Eastern Region of British Railways says "In a major national boundary change in 1958 the former Great Central network except those lines in Yorkshire and Lincolnshire transferred to the London Midland Region ...", an assertion for which however it cites no source, indeed that article entirely lacks sources. Western Region of British Railways doesn't say anything about Marylebone or the Great Central, but then it doesn't say a great deal about anything. I wonder if the WR phase was only fleeting. Perhaps the answer is to be found elsewhere in your large pile of magazines! A way of checking might be to look in an issue of, say, 1957 and see which section of the regional news columns contains information about Marylebone services, and work back or forward from there. Alarics (talk) 16:39, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * The Jan 1958 issue (p. 13) states "Some adjustment of these regional boundaries were made almost at once [1948] ... rather more extensive changes were made in 1950, and what are expected to be the final adjustments are now in progress". So, I've pulled out the 1950 issues, after that I'll try late 1949. Failing that, 1951 onwards. -- Red rose64 (talk) 16:55, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Got it, and it's pretty detailed.
 * Omitting the bulk of the list, we have:
 * The Railway Executive, with the concurrence of the B.T.C., is making certain adjustments to the boundaries of the six Regions of British Railways. These adjustments, which come into operation on April 2, are being made with the object of simplifying supervision, reducing administration costs, and avoiding duplication.
 * Eastern Region to London Midland Region
 * The former Great Central line: Quainton Road (exclusive) and Ashendon Junction (exclusive) to Heath (Derbyshire) (exclusive)
 * Hazlehead Bridge to Manchester London Road, and to Manchester Central via Fairfield Junction and Levenshulme South
 * Metropolitan and Great Central line: Rickmansworth (inclusive) to Quainton Road and Verney Junction
 * Eastern Region to London Transport Executive
 * Metropolitan and Great Central line: Harrow to Rickmansworth (exclusive) and Watford
 * Eastern Region to Western Region
 * Marylebone to Northolt Junction
 * Neasden to Harrow (exclusive)
 * A map on pp. 202-3 shows that the regional boundaries seem to have been drawn in such a way as to avoid the lines of one Region crossing those of another, except, curiously, in the Birmingham/Wolverhampton area. It then states:
 * The existing operating arrangements for trains and traffic working will be preserved, including the existing operating and motive power districts, divisions and regions. ... Former L.N.E.R. (G.C.) line from London, Marylebone to Manchester, London road, will continue to be operated throughout by the Eastern Region, although the line in part will come within the revised boundaries of the Western, London Midland and Eastern Regions.
 * This means, that between April 1950 and January 1958, a train from Marylebone to Manchester (via Aylesbury) started off in the Western Region, changed to London Transport at Harrow, to the LMR at Rickmansworth, to the ER at Heath, and back to the LMR at Hazlehead Bridge, but was operated by the ER. -- Red rose64 (talk) 17:56, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
 * More details on the 1958 Regional boundary changes, including a map, in the April 1958 issue (pp. 233-6) where the new WR/LMR boundary point is noted as "Northolt East Junction down distant signal". -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
 * More details on the 1958 Regional boundary changes, including a map, in the April 1958 issue (pp. 233-6) where the new WR/LMR boundary point is noted as "Northolt East Junction down distant signal". -- Red rose64 (talk) 13:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Well done. I've recast the relevant bit of the article accordingly, but you may like to tinker further. Actually I think a fair bit needs doing to this article and I will come back to it in due course. Alarics (talk) 19:42, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Pronunciation
The pronunciation from what I've seen on the internet is disputable... here it's pronounced "Mar-li-bone", but certain internet forums, and my pronunciation suggests it should be "Marry-le-bone". Can this be added to the pronunciation key as and when anyone can research this in detail? Richard n 22:43, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm fairly sure that "Mar-li-bone" is the correct traditional pronunciation (certainly it is what I have grown up with), though I have heard "Marry-le-bone" more frequently in recent years, which I assumed was due to people mispronouncing it based on its spelling. I guess we need to find some reliable sources for the pronunciation. BabelStone (talk) 22:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Remember, it is an area of London (and the name of a main road), not just a railway station. People who live or work there have traditionally tended to pronounce it "Marlybun", in my experience, but people from elsewhere tend not to know this, and pronounce it more like it is written. In a case like this, I do not really think you can say that there is only one "correct" pronunciation. -- Alarics (talk) 06:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Couldn't both be added? Simply south...... cooking letters for just 7 years 20:30, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

The pronunciation is still incorrect. The phoneme ‘le’ is silent, (Kreb (talk) 03:03, 13 October 2019 (UTC)).
 * Was there a particular reason you decided to drag up a six year old discussion and de facto vandalise a GA because of your unsourced assertion? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  11:42, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Pronunciation II
The lead states the pronunciation of "Marylebone" as such that  ends with /ən/ as in "button". However, the pronunciation recording pronounces /bəʊn/ as in "bone". Checking the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary (the only dictionary that has an entry for Marylebone), it seems like is correct. Perhaps a new recording is needed? Esquivalience (talk) 16:17, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
 * It's one of those English words where the pronounciation varies according to the place where the speaker lives and their social status. Rather like the words "Cherwell", "Magdalen" and "Thames" having completely different pronounciations ("Charwell", "Maudlin" and "Isis" respectively) for people who went to Oxford University. -- Red rose64 (talk) 00:50, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The sound file is titled as the UK pronunciation, for which the most common pronunciation is at least not with "bone" as the last syllable. The American pronunciation seems to be similar as well according to the Oxford dictionary, although it may often be pronounced mar-li-bone. However, the UK pronunciation should be the UK pronunciation, not the North American one. Esquivalience (talk) 03:38, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

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Proposal to change title of article
Hello! Just a quick note that it seems Marylebone is unusual by not using 'X railway station' as the article title. (With a redirect going from 'X station'). I'd propose we change this article to match. Would be interested to know others' thoughts on this too - it's longstanding so I'd be reluctant to make the change without getting a consensus here first. Mike1901 (talk) 12:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Oppose, it's Marylebone station not Marylebone railway station because there are two systems ("mainline" rail and London Underground) in one station, see WP:NCUKSTATIONS, last row of table (Any two or more of the above). -- Red rose64 (talk) 19:43, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Second section in "history"
What is the issue with changing this section's heading to "1948"? The text in the section begins with the formation of BR and the introduction of the Master Cutler and South Yorkshireman, all of which happened in this year. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  12:01, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

 * It's self explanatory in the section title. The section is about the service cuts which occurred between 1958 and 1966. The service cuts started in 1958 not 1948. G-13114 (talk) 00:30, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * The previous section ends at 1947. If this one starts in 1958, that leaves a ten-year hole. In that hole, such things as the Master Cutler and South Yorkshireman occurred. -- Red rose64 (talk) 09:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Splitting the section in two; where one section is a sentence long, is probably not what the MOS recommends, but I can't work out where the particular guideline would be there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  22:01, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
 * Also, why did you just remove a lot of new content I added? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  22:29, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Cultural references
I see these "Cultural references" or "In popular culture" sections on just about every London transport related article I've done substantial work for. What I've found is that provided you have a reliable source that can be verified to tie the article's subject matter with the film / TV show / song, and there's a reasonable chance people will associate the two, then I think it should stay. Unsourced or unreliably sourced stuff should go - even if it's true, nobody has asserted its important enough to mention in a general article about something else. I had a bit of a trim not too long ago in this article.

If you don't do this, a new or anonymous user will come along and add it anyway, simply because these things are far easier to throw in an article than actual history, engineering plans, significant architects, sponsors etc. Then you'll have to discuss it anyway. Sometimes (eg: Talk:North Circular Road/GA1), it's been suggested there's not enough cultural references in an article and there are more to add; at other times (eg: Talk:Woolwich Ferry/GA1), consensus has been with a bit of a resigned such but again concluding that reliably sourced stuff with a reasonably plausible connection should stay. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:23, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 * Ritchie, I agree with your aim but I don't think you've done a rigorous enough job and you also fail to cite a relevant policy. I see that you have just contributed to the discussion at Talk:London Waterloo station and are therefore aware that the argument for pruning culture sections advanced there is that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. This article, like the others to which you have made such frequent contributions, is about the physical building and therefore only cultural items in which the station plays a significant part as a hub are relevant. Changes have therefore been made to this article in the light of what is argued above. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 15:34, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 * If somebody asks me to cite a policy, I cite my favourite - WP:IAR :-) ... more importantly I believe we spend too much time whacking each other over the head with policies and a better approach is to express yourself in common sense terms first and then back yourself up with policy if there's no agreement (eg: "well I'm not really excited about this content but it's cited to a reliable source and it's not making the article lop-sided so WP:V and WP:NOR suggests we should keep it"). If you spend long enough reading policy you'll go mad at the ones that contradict each other. Having opinions on stuff is fine, but if your opinion doesn't match mine, then we need to see what we agree and disagree on, and reach a compromise (that's another policy there, WP:CONSENSUS).
 * Going back to this specific article, just because you think the article is only about the physical building, it does not necessarily follow that everyone reading the article will agree with you. In Marylebone's case, the history of the station is centred around its late arrival as the GCML terminus, decades after all the other London termini, its closure threat from the Beeching days to the mid-1980s, and its subsequent renaissance as an alternative London - Birmingham service. None of that has anything to do with the building - indeed, I would argue that the article in its current state doesn't actually say much about the physical building at all bar the original decor and some of the refurbishments, and comments more on the history of services and ownership. And I think that's appropriate, because it matches what the books I've read during research say. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:48, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

 * I don't just read about editing, I have been an encyclopaedia editor (and a researcher). I only look for WP guidelines when I come across off-topic information and lack of focus and need justification for edits that avoids seeming arbitrary. WP's policy of openness is a novel experiment, certainly allowing a greater scope in topics covered and even in what is included into articles. From what you write above, it's clear you need no lessons in the price one can pay for that in trying to stem the volume of undisciplined irrelevance. I guess we're at one in wanting to see WP flourish as a more-or-less trustworthy source, with something of a professional edge, even if we differ over how to manage it. Mzilikazi1939 (talk) 16:24, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

Station masters
Do we really need this section? No other station articles have it. In particular, you shouldn't expand a good article unless your additions still meet the GA criteria. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  16:08, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * You claim No other station articles have it. - but several do, such as Beeston, Boston, Derby, Derby Friargate, Doncaster, Grantham, Newcastle, Newark Castle, Newark North Gate, Nottingham, Nottingham Victoria, Sheffield, Wellingborough, York. Of course, all of these were added by . -- Red rose64 🌹 (talk) 17:25, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
 * I meant no other London stations, sorry; however we should not put it into a GA unless we have all the possible sources to keep it up to date, and state why it is important to the casual reader. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  18:47, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

Accidents section
Just wondering whether the 2015 'small fire in an air conditioning unit' is really important enough to have in the article? After all the other accident is quite a serious one, and there must have been lots of similar small problems in the past unrecorded. Bob talk 09:14, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

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Grade II listing
The station has been Grade II listed since 1996. I'm surprised that isn't even mentioned. 87.75.117.183 (talk) 16:33, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

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Talk:Federico García Lorca

Should main image be swapped for a more recent photo?
Should the main article image here be swapped for something more representative of Lorca in his later years? According to the listed dates, the current one was taken when he was only 16--more than 2 decades before the time of his assassination, much less his rise to prominency as a poet.

Current image could (perhaps) be relocated under section 1.1 (Early years).

Portrayal of women in theatre
Do Lorca's plays give women a bigger place in theatre?Vorbee (talk) 08:27, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
 * The article is not a place for original research or personal commentary. What refs do you have? Anna (talk) 10:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

ENGVAR
I see this article currently used both major variants of English spelling, which isn't ideal. Looking back, I see that in 2003 it was a fairly developed article with two instances of "theatre", marking it as British English. I submit that per MOS:RETAIN, it should continue in that variant unless there is good reason to change it. Any thoughts? John (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

More clarity regarding assassination...
Reading the article, it states as a matter of certain fact that he was indeed murdered in 1936. But it also states that his remains have never been recovered, despite multiple attempts to locate and identify them....So this then begs the question of how exactly it's known with certainty that he was actually killed in 1936....Was his murder photographed or filmed with a motion picture camera, or were there simply reports (which could be false) that he'd been killed?...The article doesn't explain any of this, so I think more clarity is definitely needed!

Of course with him having been born in 1898, he's almost certainly dead by now, but just going by what's written in the article, there seems to be a possibility that he wasn't really killed in 1936, but instead escaped to Paris or Mexico or Argentina or wherever, assumed a new identity, and lived for many years. -2003:CA:8748:312:453F:BE7:6666:23CF (talk) 13:00, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

 * For decades, he has been universally regarded as murdered in 1936.
 * There was never any alternative conspiracy theory.
 * 142.205.202.71 (talk) 16:35, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

Just Lorca
In English and in Spanish, it is usual to refer to him as Lorca, rather than García Lorca.

Cf. Picasso. 142.205.202.71 (talk) 16:31, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

 * Picasso's surname was "Ruiz y Picasso", and in the ordinary course of events that would have been shortened to Ruiz, not to Picasso, as Ruiz was his father's surname and Picasso his mother's. But Picasso himself chose to use his mother's name professionally, and the world followed suit.
 * In Lorca's case, the fact that we know him as Lorca is down to anglophone ignorance of how Spanish surnames work. Which is why books by Carlos Ruiz Zafon in bookshops are usually sorted inappropriately under Z rather than R. --  Jack of Oz   [pleasantries]  21:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)

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Sebago Lake

Sebago Lake (Sih-Bay-Goh) is the deepest and second-largest lake in the U.S. state of Maine. The lake is 316 ft deep at its deepest point, with a mean depth of 101 ft. It is possible that Sebago is the deepest lake wholly contained within the entire New England region, although some sources say that Vermont's Lake Willoughby is slightly deeper. Along with Lake Champlain, Sebago is one of the only lakes in the area that does not consistently freeze solid during the winter months, with total ice cover only occurring for a short period of time every few winters. Sebago covers about 45 sqmi in surface area, has a length of 14 mi and has a shoreline length of roughly 105 mi. The surface is around 270 ft above sea level, so the deep bottom is below the present sea level. It is in Cumberland County, and bordered by the towns of Casco, Naples, Raymond, Sebago, Standish and Windham. The seasonally occupied town of Frye Island is on an island in the lake. Sebago Lake and the surrounding area is known for its erratic and sudden changes in weather during all seasons, likely due to its proximity to the Atlantic Ocean and to Mt. Washington, a very notorious extreme weather hotspot. The name comes from the Abenaki sobagoo, meaning "it is the sea" or "it resembles the sea".

History
Two Corsair fighter planes were destroyed in a fatal midair collision over the lake on 16 May 1944.

Transportation
The lake is connected to Brandy Pond by the Songo River and eventually to Long Lake in Naples. The name comes from a local Native American tribe. The lake is drained primarily by the Presumpscot River. The lake and rivers were an early transportation corridor from the coast to the interior, and encouraged the first incorporated European settlement of interior Maine in 1762. Sebago Lake was linked to Portland harbor by the Cumberland and Oxford Canal in 1832. The outlet to the Presumpscot River was controlled for the canal by the Eel Weir Dam and the Head Dam, owned and operated by the Oriental Powder Company after the canal was replaced by a railroad and by the S. D. Warren Paper Mill after 1878.

The lake was a comparatively safe place for training military pilots from NAS Brunswick about flying over water; but several navy planes were lost over the lake during World War II. A Grumman TBF Avenger from the Lewiston Naval Auxiliary Air Facility ditched and sank near Raymond on 16 August 1943. Two low-flying British Vought Corsairs from Brunswick were lost after a mid-air collision over the lake near Raymond on 16 May 1944; and a third Corsair flew into the lake on July 16. In December 2014 a yellow Piper PA-18 Super Cub monoplane landed on a Sebago Lake beach, in what some believe is the first landing of a plane on Sebago beaches.

Water supply
Sebago Lake is the primary water supply for the Portland Water District, which serves the Greater Portland region and about 20% of Maine's population. The lake's watershed is more than 50 mi long and covers parts of 24 Maine towns.

The lake holds roughly 995 e9USgal of water that on average resides 5.1 to 5.4 years in the lake. The direct watershed is about 171 sqmi of land plus the 45 sqmi of the lake, and the indirect watershed about 190 sqmi of land plus about 28 sqmi of other bodies of water. As of May 1990, roughly 86% of the watershed was forests and fallow fields, 2.5% in active timber operations, 9.3% in residential, agricultural, and commercial use, and 2.2% used for other purposes. Water inflow is estimated at 544 e6USgal per day and outflow at 498 e6USgal per day, of which 24 e6USgal/day are for the water district.

Recreation
In 1938, the state of Maine purchased and opened Sebago Lake State Park as one of its original five state parks. However, the area was known as a public recreation center even before this. The park now consists of 1,400 acre, is open year-round, and has facilities including two public boat launches, an expansive natural sandbar for swimming, and a 250-site campground. There are also numerous private beach clubs and campgrounds spread around the lake, such as Point Sebago in Casco, which contains numerous cottages and facilities that can be rented out to guests.

Sebago Lake hosts a sailing instruction and charter service and is located in what Maine's tourism industry refers to as the Western Lakes and Mountains Region.

Efforts are underway to complete the Sebago to the Sea Trail, a trail running 28 miles from Sebago Lake to Casco Bay, mostly following the path of the Presumpscot River.

Fishing
The lake is the likely point of origin of the landlocked salmon, stated in the species' scientific name (Salmo salar sebago). At one point, the entire watershed was under seawater, and the first populations of these marine animals became established as the land rose and seawaters retreated.

Other game fish that can be found in the lake include lake trout, brook trout, brown trout, largemouth bass, and northern pike. Some of these are regularly stocked by the state, or came to the lake naturally. However, others were introduced illegally, particularly bass and pike. The state encourages anglers to kill, hold, and notify them of all northern pike taken in the lake because they were introduced illegally, are not native to the region, and could disrupt the lake ecosystem, including that of Sebago Lake's original fish species, such as the landlocked salmon.

Ice fishing for the aforementioned Trout and Pike populations is also popular in areas where it is safely possible, with annual fishing derbies held in the smaller “Jordan Bay” portion of the lake.

Camps
The lake also contains numerous summer camp options for children of all ages, genders, and skillsets:

Center Day Camp, an all-inclusive day camp run by the Jewish Community Alliance of Southern Maine, is located on the Eastern Shore of the lake in the town of Windham.

Camp O-At-Ka, founded in 1906, is a boy's sleep-away camp located along a half mile of waterfront in the northwest corner of Sebago Lake.

Camp Sebago, a co-ed camp geared towards 7-12 year olds and run by The Salvation Army, is located on the southwestern corner of the lake.

Camp Wohelo, the original Camp Fire Girls camp (WOrk HEalth LOve) was established on Sebago Lake in 1907. Founded by Luther Halsey Gulick and Charlotte Vetter Gulick, known by their native American names of Timanous and Hiitini, the camp strove to teach independence and back woods skills to young girls aged 6–16. Wohelo is still strong today.

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Talk:The Amazing Race 6

For an August 2004 deletion debate on this page see: Votes for deletion/The Amazing Race 6

36 hour pit-stops
It is stated in the trivia section of season 6 that 36 hour pit-stops existed in Ethopia and China. Why not the ordinary 12?

There's usually two pre-determined 36 hr pit stops... for the sake of the contestants and crew. --Madchester 07:20, 2005 Mar 27 (UTC)

Condensing Results
Now that race 6 is over, should we condense the results to an overall standing (1st, 2nd, etc.) and drop the leg-by-leg table? (See the season 5 page for what I mean.)

Elysion 01:24, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

 * I say we should leave the results how they are. I did most of the seasons 1-5 results, and only listed the final results because I didn't think of listing results by leg, and because I didn't have access to the data, or enough patience.  But here we already have all the data, so why remove it?  It's good for reference. - MattTM | talk 04:02, Mar 24, 2005 (UTC)

Jonathon and Victoria
Jonathon and Victoria have a lot of info in the post-race section. I think a lot of it belong on the page. What should be in the post-race section are "Jonathon and Victoria have continued to remain well known after the race". Something like that. We don't need all the facts about them. They have Wikipedia pages. TeckWiz is 12 yrs oldTalk Contribs # of Edits 20:43, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

 * Also, the Jonathan and Victoria shoving incident was a major part of this season. Yet someone took it upon themselves to remove a paragraph describing the situation. --Mezaco (talk) 05:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

 * The information about the Jonathan and Victoria shoving incident is erroneous. It is stated on the page that he shoved her because she was too slow, but he makes comments several times during and after the check in that he was upset because she picked up his backpack, and it should be his decision if he is to leave it somewhere, and if his bag had been taken, it would be his problem. To sum up, he was angry that she took it upon herself to make the decision for him, not that she was too slow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.11.81.228 (talk) 04:23, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Corsica
I'm just wondering why exactly Corsica gets its own flag. Isn't it just a province/state/whatever of France?174.1.48.24 (talk) 22:34, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Sri Lanka
I feel that there is not enough information regarding this season's visit to Sri Lanka and the natural disaster that occurred between filming and airing. All we currently have in the article is that the trains were damaged. This is kind of really understating the impact that the event had. The episode on Sri Lanka featured a message at the beginning being read by Phil talking about the disaster and dedicating it to those still recovering.

I would add more myself, but I don't feel I'd quite do it justice. 174.1.50.249 (talk) 02:37, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

 * From a standpoint of a television competition, that really isn't important. We do link to the article on the disaster so that if people want to see what other damage and effects there were, they can see, but from the standpoint of TAR, we really can only say the post-acknowledgement of the event. --M ASEM (t) 02:45, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

 * That's my point, though. We don't talk about the post-acknowledgement of the event. Nowhere is it stated that the show took a moment to address the disaster. Instead, we talk about some trains that have little connection to the race as being damaged. Basically, what you're telling me is the opposite of what's currently being exhibited on the article. 174.1.50.249 (talk) 06:18, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Amazing Race 1 which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 01:43, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Freddy & Kendra and Don & Mary Jean at Leg 2
Shouldn't Freddy & Kendra be placed 7th and Don & Mary Jean place 8th with the 30-min penalty for the car incident? The reason they received the penalty was because Don & Mary Jean moved Adam & Rebecca's bags and car, but wasn't caught at the pit stop. A very similar thing happened in Unfinished Business (season 18) that Flight Time & Big Easy moved Ron & Christina's fanny pack during Leg 3. The difference is that Flight Time & Big Easy was caught just as Ron & Christina was checking in. Their positions AFTER the penalty is reflected in the table, not the positions BEFORE the penalty. I'm going to change it now. Let any discussion begin. Albertdaniel222 (talk) 04:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sunny jim

Sunny jim was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was Either an advertising character for some cereal in an unspecified country a long time ago, or a colloqialism. Not sure anything can become of this. --Ianb 23:53, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * keep revised version. --Ianb 16:39, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Delete: It's a mess.  Ok, whatever advertising spokes-toon it was, "Sonny Jim" is an insult (see Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe, if you don't know it elsewhere).  This must be British, since the comedian in question is.  Factually untrue and mostly irrelevant.  Geogre 01:31, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep and cleanup. No time to research this now, but Sunny Jim and the advertising campaign Force cereal are considered to be landmarks in the history of advertising. 100 greatest ads of all time 'n' stuff. He may have been an early case of a cartoon character being successfully used to promote a product. The reason why it has some kind of meaning in popular culture (whether or not the article is accurate) is because for a while Sunny Jim was a household word. He's in the same pantheon as the Gold Dust Twins, and Phoebe Snow ("said Phoebe Snow/About to go/Upon a trip to Buffalo/My gown stays white/From morn 'til night/Upon the Road of Anthracite"), and Buster Brown, not to mention Aunt Jemima, Betty Crocker, and so on. I see that our Advertising article's section on the History of Advertising isn't very good, by the way... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 01:50, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Oops, present article is identical to http://website.lineone.net/~ssleightholm/dict/glossary/sunnyjim.htm . Maybe too short to be a real copyvio, but...
 * Oh, there is a TON of stuff about this on the Web. Article at http://www.salemstate.edu/sextant/volXII_2/SEXT-essay-sunny-jim.htm says Sunny Jim is cited as "a classic example of a costly failure, one in which the advertising created great interest in the trade character  but failed to sell the product" but that this is not true. An image of a 1903 poster at http://www.postergroup.com/details.asp?posterid=8845 . Force tie-in merchandise at http://www.oxforddiecast.co.uk/FORCE.htm . Looks as if it's a British cereal. Looks as if it really is spelled FORCE in all-caps. Does it still exist? Reading some more... of the salemstate article... Started in the U. S., then introduced into Britain. This looks like a very interesting topic to me. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 01:50, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I guess there could be an article here. Someone want to write it? BTW, Sunny Jim is also a popular brand of peanut butter in the Pacific Northwest, not sure how widely it is distributed. -- Jmabel 02:06, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * I was able to find out some more about it, check the article now... but I cannot find any picture. Apparently no connection to the cereal Sunny Jim! [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 17:20, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I made a start. And the article is no longer a possible copyvio. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 02:45, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * wow, I didn't know breakfast cereals went that far back. Thanks! --Ianb 16:39, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Oh, my, yes... they were a significant cultural phenomenon. They started out as health-quackery stuff, served in the sanitariums at Battle Creek and elsewhere, I think a little before the turn of the century. If you want to see a fairly amusing movie, check out The Road to Wellville sometime. The story of shredded wheat is interesting, too—they were originally supposed to be a kind of instant gruel, i.e. the intention was that they be mixed in hot water and left until they had a (disgusting) soft, watery, pudding-like consistency. People decided that they were a lot more palatable eaten while still crunchy, and the rest is history... Sorta like the story of brandy being intended to be a preserved-wine concentrate that would be mixed with water to reconstitute the wine at the end of the shipment, until it was discovered that people liked it undiluted. Anyway. The histories of cereals and advertising are sort of intertwined because they were, at least in the U.S., some of the very first nationally-distributed and marketed food products and some of the first for which modern-style advertising campaigns were conducted. H. G. Wells has a funny reference to cereals in Tono-Bungay. Some patent-medicine entrepreneur are discussing strategy and one of them says:
 * "There's all these patent grain foods,--what Americans call cereals. I believe I'm right, sir, in saying they're sawdust."  "No!" said my uncle, removing his cigar; "as far as I can find out it's really grain,—spoilt grain.... I've been going into that."  [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith (talk)]] 20:39, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * It's a famous campaign example in advertising & business communications texts, and the character was well enough known to enter the language as a colloquialism that lasted for several decades; I'd say it's notable. Keep. -FZ 15:57, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Wikipedia would be improved by many, many more pieces of mostly forgotten pop culture and trivia of the past to balance the flood of current trivia. Now an excellent article. Jallan 18:12, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep: I'd never heard of this campaign, but found it an interest read. I endorse the comments about the preponderance of modern trivia over ancient trivia too.  Trivia is good. GWO 19:37, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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Lizzie Magie

Elizabeth J. Magie Phillips (née Magie; May 9, 1866 – March 2, 1948) was an American game designer, writer, feminist, and Georgist. She invented The Landlord's Game, the precursor to Monopoly, to illustrate teachings of the progressive era economist Henry George.

Life and occupations
Elizabeth J. Magie was born in Macomb, Illinois, in 1866 to Mary Jane (née Ritchie) and James K. Magie, a newspaper publisher and an abolitionist who accompanied Abraham Lincoln as he traveled around Illinois in the late 1850s debating politics with Stephen Douglas. After moving to the D.C. and Maryland area in the early 1880s, she worked as a stenographer and typist at the Dead Letter Office. She was also a short story and poetry writer, comedian, stage actress, feminist, and engineer. At the age of 26, Magie received a patent for her invention that made the typewriting process easier by allowing paper to go through the rollers more easily. At the time, women were credited with less than one percent of all patents. She also worked as a news reporter for a brief time in the early 1900s. In 1910, at age 44, she married Albert Wallace Phillips. They had no children.

Political activism
Magie was an outspoken activist for the feminist movement, and Georgism, which reflected her father's political beliefs when she was young. Georgism refers to the economic perspective that instead of taxing income or other sources, the government should create a universal land tax based on the usefulness, size, and location of the land (Single tax). Then, after funding the government, the left over money would be distributed to the people. Many progressive political leaders at the time supported this economic perspective as it motivated people to cultivate land, redistributed wealth to people of low socioeconomic standing, eradicated the idea that landowners or landlords held the power and monetary value of the land that citizens used, and let people own all of the value and benefits of their creations. This belief became the basis for her game known as The Landlord's Game.

Furthermore, she believed that women were as capable as men in inventing, business, and other professional areas. In the 1800s, this belief was considered both novel and radical. When she worked as a stenographer, she was making around $10 a week which was not enough to support herself without the help of a husband. In order to bring the struggles of women in the United States to the public's attention, she bought an advertisement and tried to auction herself off as a "young woman American slave" looking for a husband to own her. This advertisement was meant to show the position of women and black people in the country, emphasizing the fact that the only people that were truly free were white men. The ad Magie published became the talk of the town. It spread rapidly through the news and gossip columns around the country. Magie made a name for herself as an out-spoken and proud feminist.

The Landlord's Game
Magie first made her game, known as The Landlord's Game, popular among friends while living in Brentwood, Maryland. In 1903, Magie applied to the US Patent Office for a patent on her board game. She was granted U.S. Patent 748,626 on January 5, 1904. Magie received her patent before women were legally allowed to vote. The Landlord's Game was designed to demonstrate the economic ill effects of land monopolism and the use of land value tax as a remedy for it. Originally, the goal of the game was to simply obtain wealth. In the following patents, the game developed to eventually have two different settings: one being the monopolist set up (known as Monopoly) where the goal was to own industries, create monopolies, and win by forcing others out of their industries and the other being the anti-monopolist setup (known as Prosperity) where the goal was to create products and interact with opponents. The game would later go on to be the inspiration for the game Monopoly.

In 1906, she moved to Chicago. That year, she and fellow Georgists formed the Economic Game Co. to self-publish her original edition of The Landlord's Game. In 1910, the Parker Brothers published her humorous card game Mock Trial. Then, the Newbie Game Co. in Scotland patented The Landlord's Game as "Bre'r Fox and Bre'r Rabbit;" however, there was no proof that the game was actually protected by the British patent.

She and her husband moved back to the east coast of the U.S. and patented a revised version of the game in 1924. As her original patent had expired in 1921, this is seen as her attempt to reassert control over her game, which was now being played at some colleges where students made their own copies. In 1932, her second edition of The Landlord's Game was published by the Adgame Company of Washington, D.C. This version included both Monopoly and Prosperity.

Magie also developed other games including Bargain Day and King's Men in 1937 and a third version of The Landlord's Game in 1939. In Bargain Day, shoppers compete with each other in a department store; King's Men is an abstract strategy game.

Death
Magie died at the age of 81 in 1948. She was buried with her husband Albert Wallace Phillips, who had died in 1937, in Columbia Gardens Cemetery, Arlington, Virginia. Magie died without having any children. At her death, she was not credited for the impact that she had on the board game community and American culture.

Monopoly
Magie's game was becoming increasingly popular around the Northeastern United States. College students attending Harvard, Columbia, and University of Pennsylvania, left-leaning middle class families, and Quakers were all playing her board game. Three decades after The Landlord's Game was invented in 1904, Parker Brothers published a modified version, known as Monopoly. Charles Darrow claimed the idea as his own, stating that he invented the game in his basement. Magie later spoke out against them and reported that she had made a mere $500 from her invention and received none of the credit for Monopoly.

In January 1936, an interview with Magie appeared in a Washington, D.C. newspaper, in which she was critical of Parker Brothers. Magie spoke to reporters about the similarities between Monopoly and The Landlord's Game. The article published spoke to the fact that Magie spent more money making her game than she received in earnings, especially with the lack of credit she received after Monopoly was created. After the interviews, Parker Brothers agreed to publish two more of her games but continued to give Darrow the credit for inventing the game itself.

Darrow was known as the inventor of Monopoly until Ralph Anspach, creator of the Anti-Monopoly game, discovered Magie's patents. Anspach had researched the history of Monopoly in relation to a legal struggle against Parker Brothers regarding his own game, and discovered Darrow's decision to take credit for its invention, despite his having learned about it through friends. Subsequently, Magie's invention of The Landlord's Game has been given more attention and research. Despite the fact that Darrow and the Parker Brothers capitalized on and were credited with her idea, she has posthumously received credit for one of the most popular board games.

Legacy
It was only after her death that the impact Magie had on many aspects of American culture and life began to be appreciated. First and foremost, she helped to popularize the circular board game. Most board games at the time were linear; a circular board game that concentrated on interacting both socially and competitively with the opponents was a novel idea. Her board game not only laid the foundation and inspiration for Monopoly, the most famous board game in the United States, but also provided entertainment that taught about Georgist principles, the value in spreading wealth, and the harmfulness of monopolies (this aspect of her game was absent from the Darrow version of Monopoly).

She also contributed to pressure for women's and black people's rights, through educating others about these concepts, inventing board games at a time when women held less than one percent of US patents, and publishing political material in newspapers to speak out against the oppression of women and black communities in the United States.

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Keelhaul (band)

Keelhaul is a four-piece progressive mathcore/sludge metal band from Cleveland, Ohio. The members are Aaron Dallison (bass, vocals), Dana Embrose (guitar), Will Scharf (drums), and Chris Smith (guitar, vocals).

The band formed in 1998. They toured Europe in April 2004 and subsequently went on a lengthy break. With no tours or new music recorded, Keelhaul entered the studio in December 2008 with producer Andrew Schneider to record their new album, Keelhaul's Triumphant Return to Obscurity. In the same month, the band resumed live activity with two shows, one in Philadelphia and the other in New York. In 2009, they played support to Isis for the Wavering Radiant tour (which took in dates across Europe), filling the bill with Finnish band Circle.

Members

 * Chris Smith (Integrity, Terminal Lovers, False Hope) – guitar, vocals
 * Aaron Dallison (Escalation Anger, Ringworm, Abdullah, State of conviction) – bass, vocals
 * Dana Embrose (Groin, La Gritona, Suicide King, False Hope) – guitar
 * Will Scharf (Craw) – drums

 * Guest musicians
 * Bryant Clifford Meyer of Isis and Red Sparowes appears on the song "Randall" from the Subject to Change Without Notice album.

Discography

 * Keelhaul – (CD 1998, Cambodia Recordings)
 * Keelhaul – (CD 1999, Escape Artist Records)
 * Keelhaul – (LP 1999, Hydra Head Records), available as a picture disc
 * Ornamental Iron – (LP 7" 2000, Hydra Head Records)
 * Keelhaul II – (CD 2001, Hydra Head Records)
 * Keelhaul II – (LP 2001, Escape Artist Records), available as a picture disc
 * Anodyne – Keelhaul – (Split 7" LP 2002, Chainsaw Safety Records)
 * Subject to Change Without Notice – (CD 2003, Hydra Head Records)
 * Subject to Change Without Notice – (LP 2003, Escape Artist Records), available as a picture disc
 * You Waited Five Years for This? – (EP 7" 2009, Hydra Head Records)
 * Keelhaul's Triumphant Return to Obscurity – (2xLP 2009, Hydra Head Records)
 * Keelhaul's Triumphant Return to Obscurity – (CD 2009, Hydra Head Records)

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The RBX Files

The RBX Files is the debut album by American rapper RBX, released September 26, 1995, on Premeditated/Warner Bros. Records. It peaked at number 12 on the Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums and at number 62 on the Billboard 200. The album was produced by Greg "Gregski" Royal.

Along with singles, music videos were released for two songs: "A.W.O.L." and "Rough Is the Texture."

Background
Following his guest appearances on The Chronic and Doggystyle, RBX was tagged to be Death Row’s next big star, but that was not to be—Dr. Dre and Suge Knight pushed back his debut, and he wound up leaving the label and putting out the album on Premeditated Records.

Reception
Alex Henderson of AllMusic called it an "interesting, if uneven, debut", noting the "distinctive rapping style". Option called it "subtly funky" with "expertly paced backing tracks". Wesley K. Marshall of The Source magazine called RBX's style unorthodox, while praising the artist himself as "an unquestionably skillful lyricist". The critic described the instrumentals used on the album as "eerie, clashing rugged beats".

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Plimoth Patuxet

 Plimoth Patuxet is a complex of living history museums in Plymouth, Massachusetts founded in 1947, formerly Plimoth Plantation. It replicates the original settlement of the Plymouth Colony established in the 17th century by the English colonists who became known as the Pilgrims. They were among the first people who emigrated to America to seek religious separation from the Church of England. It is a not-for-profit museum supported by administrations, contributions, grants, and volunteers. The recreations are based upon a wide variety of first-hand and second-hand records, accounts, articles, and period paintings and artifacts, and the museum conducts ongoing research and scholarship, including historical archaeological excavation and curation locally and abroad.

In the English Village section of the museum, trained first-person ("historical") interpreters speak, act, and dress appropriately for the period, interacting with visitors by answering questions, discussing their lives and viewpoints, and participating in tasks such as cooking, planting, and animal husbandry. Third-person ("modern") interpreters answer guests' questions that the first-person interpreters cannot. The English Village represents the year 1627 through most of the museum season (which lasts from early April to late November), depicting day-to-day life and seasonal activities. In November, the English Village typically represents the year 1621, which is the year of the first Thanksgiving to take place in Plymouth Colony.

History
Henry Hornblower II started the museum in 1947 with help and support from friends, family, and business associates as two English cottages and a fort on Plymouth's waterfront. Since then, the museum has grown to include the Mayflower II, a 1957 replica of the Mayflower, the English Village (1959), the Wampanoag Homesite (1973), the Hornblower Visitor Center (1987), the Craft Center (1992), the Maxwell and Nye Barns (1994), and the Plimoth Grist Mill (2013). Alongside the settlement is a recreation of a Wampanoag home site, where Indians from a variety of tribes explain and demonstrate how the Wampanoags' ancestors lived.

The museum grounds at Plimoth Patuxet also include Nye Barn where historical breeds of livestock are kept, a crafts center where many objects are created for use in the village exhibits, a cinema where educational videos are shown, a Colonial Education site for youth and adult groups, and a visitors' center with indoor exhibits and educational programs. The two houses on the Colonial Education site were built for the PBS show Colonial House, which was filmed in Maine. Following the filming, the museum disassembled the houses and reconstructed them at on their current site. The roof of the Cooke House was destroyed by a fire from a fireplace on November 19, 2011, and the building had to be demolished.

Mayflower II is docked near Plymouth Rock and is also under the care of the museum. Museum employees in modern dress interpret history to guests from a third-person perspective.

Name change
In July 2020, officials announced that the museum would be renamed, noting that their plan "for some time, has been to announce a new name for the Museum later this year as we commemorate the 400th anniversary (1620–2020) of the Pilgrims' arrival on the shores of historic Patuxet." It coincided with a wave of name changes caused by the George Floyd protests that year meant to be more inclusive. Officials stated that discussions had been ongoing for more than a year to assess whether the existing name reflected "the full, multivalent history that is at the core of the museum’s mission." While a new name was not yet revealed, the museum began using a new logo that read "Plimoth Patuxet" instead of "Plimoth Plantation."

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Amazing Race 6

 * Highly suspect. Amazing Race 5 is currently ongoing and will probably still be running at the same time as the supposed start date of this one.  There are still 7 teams left in AR 5 and three weeks left in which no one is eliminated.  There is nothing at cbs.com which mentions an Amazing Race 6.  RickK 23:59, Aug 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. The information is correct, see . -- Netoholic 00:28, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. Show has been confirmed, and is either currently filming or has already completed filming. - MattTM
 * Abstain: Ok, it's real.  Now, is it notable now?  Is it worth a solo article at this point?  Why put it in in hopes that one day it will need to be presented?  Geogre 01:49, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Tothebarricades.tk 02:43, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * How very odd that they're going to overlap them. Oh, well, keep, then, I guess.  RickK 04:13, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * Yes, it is, in fact I've noted that in the article. Keep. Jgm 07:11, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Current version reads more like an ad or a TV Guide listing than an encyclopedia article but that could, in theory, be fixed. The bigger concern is that it's notability can not yet be verified. Delete until it is released and a hit. The single line in the parent article The Amazing Race is sufficient for now. Rossami 23:51, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)


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Doctor Fun

Doctor Fun is a single-panel, gag webcomic by David Farley. It began in September 1993, making it one of the earliest webcomics, and ran until June 2006. Doctor Fun was part of United Media's website from 1995, but had parted ways by 2003. The comic was one of the longest-running webcomics before it concluded, having run for nearly thirteen years with over 2,600 strips. The webcomic has been compared to The Far Side.

History
Doctor Fun began on September 24, 1993, and has been called "first comic published on the Web". It was not the first comic series published through the Internet – Witches and Stitches was distributed through CompuServe in 1985, and Where the Buffalo Roam was distributed though Usenet in 1991 – but it published through the World Wide Web, meaning it appeared on its own webpage rather than being sent out just by mailing lists or other earlier Internet technology. Its creator, Dave Farley, started uploading Doctor Fun while working as a computer technician for the library system at the University of Chicago.

In 1995, David Farley was signed by newspaper comic strip syndication service United Media; under the deal, Doctor Fun appeared on United Media's website. By 2003, Farley's contract with United Media had "fallen through." A book collection was published by Plan Nine Publishing in 2004.

In 2003, Farley said to The News & Observer that Doctor Fun was the longest-running webcomic. (This is no longer the case, with longer-running comics such as Kevin and Kell and Sluggy Freelance.) Farley said in 2005 that he hoped to keep doing Doctor Fun for at least ten years in total, or 520 weeks. On June 9, 2006, after posting the final page of his 520th week of strips, he announced that his series was concluded. According to a mirror archive, the comic ran every weekday with some weeks off through the years, for nearly thirteen years. Farley produced over 2,600 Doctor Fun strips during its run.

Doctor Fun was hosted on the digital library and archive project Ibiblio. The Ibiblio page is no longer live on the Internet, but archives exist.

Content
Each Doctor Fun comic is a single-panel gag. Subjects include science, pop culture, and "outright weirdness". Farley said in 1994 that he drew the comics "in batches" and that it took about an evening to finish each color cartoon. He drew the comics on paper and scanned them.

Reception
A writer for the National Center for Supercomputing Applications said in the comic's first month that the creation of the strip was "a major breakthrough for the Web".

A columnist for the Houston Chronicle discussed Doctor Fun in 1994 in an article on webcomics, or "net.toons" as they called them. The columnist called Doctor Fun "a Far Side clone", describing it as a "one-panel, full-color net.toon with a decidedly twisted outlook" and saying, "Farley's appeal is universal". A brief article in The Daily Telegraph in 2000 recommended Doctor Fun.

Farley said in 2003 that Doctor Fun received close to 50,000 hits per day.

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Talk:The RBX Files

Cover
It's a start. What are allowed sources for a picture of the album cover? Allmusic.com has one of a suitable size, but I guess that use would not be permitted. Is another genre more accurate than West Coast rap? What is Premeditated's parent label? Tim Ivorson 00:00, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Goings-on/August 15, 2004

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Streetlight Manifesto

Streetlight Manifesto is an American ska punk band from New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States, formed in 2002. They released their first album, Everything Goes Numb, which was distributed by Victory Records, on August 26, 2003. The band headlined and sold out their first concert at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey, on December 9, 2003. Several of Streetlight Manifesto's members were well known in the New Jersey third wave ska community for their roles in past ska punk bands from that area, primarily Kalnoky's Catch 22 and fellow New Jersey band One Cool Guy.

2001–2002: Formation
Kalnoky, Ansley and Egan (also from New Jersey) had previously been members of Catch 22. In 2002, Kalnoky gathered a large number of musicians—including Ansley and Egan, several members of One Cool Guy, his brother Achilles, and several of Achilles' orchestra friends—to perform on the Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution EP, A Call to Arms. Included on the five track independently released CD is "Here's to Life", a song which Streetlight Manifesto reworked and included on Everything Goes Numb, and a new version of Catch 22's "Dear Sergio", which included a new verse. Both Streetlight and the Bandits are members of The RISC Group, a collaboration of artists to self produce and retain rights to their music.

2003–2004: Everything Goes Numb
Streetlight Manifesto's first recording consisted of a four-track demo EP, featuring the songs "Everything Went Numb", "Point/Counterpoint", "The Saddest Song" and "We Are the Few", all of which were re-recorded for their debut album. The line-up that recorded the demo consisted almost entirely of musicians from Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution: Josh Ansley (bass guitar), Jamie Egan (trombone and trumpet), Tomas Kalnoky (guitar and vocals), Stuart Karmatz (drums), Dan Ross (alto and baritone saxophone) and Pete Sibilia (tenor saxophone). The band was signed to Victory Records, the same label as Catch 22.

After the demo was recorded Karmatz left and was replaced by Paul Lowndes and Jim Conti took the place of Pete Sibilia. This line-up then recorded Everything Goes Numb, but changed again before the band could perform any live shows. Jamie Egan played both trumpet and trombone while recording, but as he would not be able to do this live, Mike Soprano joined on trombone. Paul Lowndes had no intention to tour and was replaced by Chris Thatcher.

2004–2007: More lineup changes and continued touring
In September 2004, Ansley announced his departure to pursue an acting career. The next departure was Egan, who left on January 22, 2005, before Streetlight Manifesto began the Ska Is Dead 2 tour, headlining alongside MU330 and the Voodoo Glow Skulls. Delano Bonner came in to play trumpet starting on January 25, 2005, performing at Rowan University in Glassboro, New Jersey. Dan Ross had planned to leave after the Ska Is Dead 2 tour to pursue a business career, and was forced to leave early just before the end of the tour due to a family crisis. He would later go on to teach math at Piscataway High School. He has been replaced by Mike Brown, whose first concert was at the start of the European tour. Brown's first concert in the United States was on May 31, 2005 in Baltimore.

In April 2005, the band headed overseas to Europe for their first tour outside North America despite personnel difficulties, including visa trouble for various members. Then in October 2005, in Jacksonville, Florida, the band's van was broken into; in total around $80,000 worth of instruments, merchandise, and personal belongings were stolen. Following the burglary and theft, the band was forced to cancel their following four shows. In November 2005, they were robbed again, in Paris, France, and the band lost "the one expensive piece of equipment that wasn't stolen in last month's debacle, a 24 track hard drive recorder we've been using to document our live shows." Sometime between December 3, 2006 and July 3, 2007, Delano Bonner left the band. Sometime before the recording of Somewhere in the Between, Matt Stewart took over for Bonner.

2006–2010: Keasbey Nights and Somewhere in the Between
In 2004, Kalnoky decided to re-record Keasbey Nights, originally recorded by his previous band Catch 22. The decision was prompted by Victory Records' plan to re-release the album with additional content. The Streetlight Manifesto version was originally scheduled to be released in late 2004, but was continually delayed until being released on March 7, 2006.

Streetlight Manifesto's second album, Somewhere in the Between, was released in November 2007 through Victory Records to generally positive reviews.

2010–2012: 99 Songs of Revolution
99 Songs of Revolution is a collaborative project that intended to consist of two full-length albums by Streetlight Manifesto, two full-length albums by the Bandits of the Acoustic Revolution; as well as four other albums, two each by two other Streetlight-related artists. The project consists entirely of cover songs. Volume No. 1 of the project was released by Streetlight Manifesto on March 16, 2010, and is the only volume of the project released as of 2024.

2012–2013: The Hands That Thieve
On August 22, 2012, the band announced that their new album would be called The Hands That Thieve. It was originally set to be released on November 6, 2012. On October 23, however, Tomas addressed the fans of their Facebook page, apologizing that he would need to set the release date back to sometime in January 2013. Victory Records was slated to announce the release date on February 1, 2013, but did not follow through. On February 15, it was announced by Victory Records that the album would be released on April 30, 2013. An acoustic version of the album was released by Toh Kay on the same date with the name The Hand That Thieves. The album was leaked on April 19, 2013. The album has received positive reviews.

2013–2017: The End of the Beginning Tour and Victory Records dispute
In February 2013, Victory Records allegedly withheld all copies of The Hands That Thieve from both Streetlight Manifesto and those that had pre-ordered the album through Streetlight's web store, and barred Streetlight Manifesto from releasing the Toh Kay album. The album was available via Victory Records' website, along with all the major physical retailers. The band called for a boycott of all merchandise and music purchased from Victory Records, be it through online sources such as Amazon.com or through traditional methods of buying physical CDs. They instructed their fans and customers to instead buy merchandise from their website, such as shirts and stickers. Despite the fact that Streetlight allegedly had no physical copies they had been continuously taking pre-orders for the album, which culminated in the band asking customers not to ask for a refund and rather accept an unspecified gift sent instead of the actual album. On May 16 it was announced the mystery gift to be a digipack case containing a blank CD-R with a custom label and 24 page booklet with poems and photos.

On March 1, 2013, Streetlight announced plans to dramatically cut down on touring within the next year:

""We've solidified plans to tour our well-traveled asses off for one last year, until the end of 2013, at which time we will be not necessarily be moving on from the band, but changing our approach to what we do with the majority of our time. More specifically, we will no longer be touring year round, nor will we be touring much at all anymore.

Streetlight is not actually breaking up, and we have no plans to ever do so, really. As of now, we still plan to play festivals, both in the US and overseas, occasional one-off shows here and there and even sporadic short-run tours. Hell, we may even do an extended tour a few years from now, who can say? One thing is certain, though: we will still make music together. We've recently submitted an album (The Hands That Thieve) to the record label we've been under contract with since the beginning, and with that, we are now free of a very contentious, very unhappy relationship (you may have heard, ha!) that has caused us much frustration and anguish over the years. We have no plans to ever sign with another label and we will happily continue to release records, on our own and on our own terms.""

They continued by announcing their End of the Beginning Tour, a multiple-leg outing that will last until the end of the year. On May 16, 2014, the band announced its only tour for the year, the Once More Into the Fray Tour, a six-show tour of the North American North East, with support from Dan Potthast and Chris Murray.

On October 20, 2015, after years of poor relations between Streetlight Manifesto and Victory Records, media outlets reported of a $1,000,000 lawsuit filed against Kalnoky. The lawsuit was filed in regard to the band not fulfilling their record deal of four studio albums to be released under Victory Records. The band released five albums under Victory Records however, Victory claims that "... the band agreed not to count this album as one of the four albums under its contract to receive a $10,000 emergency advance." Victory also claims that the album 99 Songs of Revolution: Vol. 1 does not count towards the contract due to it being a covers album. The lawsuit claims the $1,000,000 is to be paid for Streetlight not fulfilling their four-album record deal, as well as damages for copyright infringement relating to the release of their last album The Hands That Thieve in which Kalnoky released an acoustic version of the album under his pseudonym Toh Kay titled "The Hand That Thieves". Kalnoky took to the band's Twitter account to comment on the removal of the Victory catalog from streaming service Spotify:"'Ironically, @victoryrecords hasn't paid us a cent in royalties in over 2 yrs. More info soon. #irony #douchenuggets'"On October 23 the band uploaded the following statement to their Facebook page:"'THE REPORTS ARE SIMPLY NOT TRUE. Tony Brummel / Victory Records are NOT suing Tomas for $1 Million… ...He's actually suing Tomas for FIVE MILLION DOLLARS.'"

During the second leg of The Last Good Fight tour, it was revealed that Dan Ross had returned to the band, now playing alto and tenor saxophone. It was also revealed that Nadav Nirenberg had parted ways with the band and been replaced by Karl Lyden.

On April 19, 2017, Streetlight Manifesto and Victory Records issued a joint statement that the two parties had reached a settlement under which the band left the record label, and the record label sold the band all master recordings for an undisclosed sum.

2017–present: Independence
On July 27, 2021, Streetlight announced plans to release a sixth studio album "sometime in 2022." On an Instagram post at the start of 2023, they stated they were slowly approaching the end of that endeavor.

On December 16, 2022, Streetlight teased a new song, titled "Mayday", at their performance at the Starland Ballroom in Sayreville, NJ during their "The Calm Before The Chaos" tour.

Trumpet player Matthew Stewart died on September 10, 2023, at the age of 41. Following Stewart's passing, Mike Soprano returned to the band on trumpet and trombone for September shows in San Francisco and Los Angeles.

On April 25, 2024, Streetlight Manifesto announced information about the new album. The album is close to finished, according to the band. The album is long, but "in length of each song, complexity of parts, variety of melodies, etc."

Musical influences and style
Kalnoky writes the band's songs on an acoustic guitar and then fleshes out the song structure on the computer and hums basic hornlines, after which the rest of the band comes in and adds their parts. He has cited the soundtrack of the film Stand By Me as his biggest musical influence, and stated that he looks to the 1950s and 1960s for inspiration when writing. For Somewhere in the Between he sought to "branch out in different directions", adding "eastern European and gypsy sounds" to give the album "a world influence".

Discography

 * Studio albums
 * Everything Goes Numb (2003)
 * Keasbey Nights (2006)
 * Somewhere in the Between (2007)
 * 99 Songs of Revolution: Vol. 1 (2010)
 * The Hands That Thieve (2013)

Members

 * Current members
 * Tomas Kalnoky – lead vocals, guitar (2002–present)
 * Jim Conti – vocals, tenor saxophone, alto saxophone (2002–present), baritone saxophone (2005–present)
 * Chris Thatcher – drums (2003–present)
 * Mike Brown – baritone and alto saxophone, backing vocals (2005–present)
 * Pete McCullough – bass, backing vocals (2006–present)
 * Karl Lyden – trombone, backing vocals (2015–present)
 * Dan Ross – baritone saxophone (2002–2005), alto and tenor saxophone (2015–present)
 * Mike Soprano – trombone, backing vocals (2003–2010), trumpet (2023–present)

 * Former members
 * Jamie Egan – trumpet (2002–2005), trombone (2002–2003)
 * Josh Ansley – bass (2002–2004)
 * Pete Sibilia – tenor saxophone (2002)
 * Stuart Karmatz – drums (2002)
 * Paul Lowndes – drums (2002–2003)
 * Chris Paszik – bass (2004–2006)
 * Delano Bonner – trumpet (2005–2007)
 * Nadav Nirenberg – trombone, backing vocals (2010–2015)
 * Matt Stewart – trumpet, backing vocals (2007–2023); died 2023

Timeline

 * Note: Mike Soprano played trombone on 99 Songs of Revolution but left the band before the album was released.
 * Note: Jamie Egan recorded trumpet on Keasbey Nights in 2006 but was not touring with the band at the time. He and Kalnoky are the only two to appear on both versions of Keasbey Nights.

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Canadian Junior Football League

The Canadian Junior Football League (CJFL) is a national Major Junior Canadian football league consisting of 19 teams playing in five provinces across Canada. The teams compete annually for the Canadian Bowl. Many CJFL players move on to professional football careers in the Canadian Football League (CFL) and elsewhere.

Formed May 8, 1974, the CJFL's formal mission statement is: "The Canadian Junior Football League provides the opportunity for young men aged 17 to 22 to participate in highly competitive post-high school football that is unique in Canada. The goal of the league is to foster community involvement and yield a positive environment by teaching discipline, perseverance and cooperation. The benefits of the league are strong camaraderie, national competition and life-long friends."

A handful of standout players are typically signed directly to CFL rosters each season, while U Sports permits up to two years of play in leagues such as the CJFL before a player begins to lose eligibility.

The 9-team Quebec Junior Football League was formerly part of the CJFL, but eventually withdrew and now operates independently. Meanwhile, The Ontario Football Conference (OFC) consists of two divisions: Varsity Division (ages 11 to 19) and Junior Division (ages 17 to 22). While the Junior Division remains affiliated to the CJFL and its teams compete for the Canadian Bowl, the Varsity Division is operated solely by the OFC.

Defunct teams
Burlington Braves
 * Grand River Predators (Kitchener, Ontario)
 * GTA Bears (2012-2013, Brampton, Ontario)
 * Brampton Bears (2009-2011, Brampton, Ontario)
 * Abbotsford Air Force (Abbotsford, B.C.)
 * North Shore Cougars 1961-1973 (North Vancouver, B.C.)
 * North Vancouver Argos (North Vancouver, B.C.)
 * North Shore Broncos 1974-1990
 * Richmond Raiders (1978-1992, Richmond, B.C.)
 * Vancouver Meralomas 1925-1990
 * Tri-City Bulldogs (Vancouver Meralomas, 1925–1990, then 1991–2004 in Coquitlam, B.C.)
 * Vancouver Trojans (Renfrew Trojans 1974–1993) (Burnaby, B.C.)
 * Red Deer Packers (Red Deer, Alberta)
 * Calgary Mohawks (Calgary, Alberta)
 * Calgary Cougars (Calgary, Alberta)
 * Medicine Hat Rattlers (Medicine Hat, Alberta)
 * Regina Rams (Regina, Saskatchewan, moved to the CIS)
 * Rosemount Bombers (Montreal, Quebec)
 * St-Leonard Cougars (Montreal, Quebec)
 * Fort Garry Lions (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
 * St. Vital Mustangs (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
 * Winnipeg Hawkeyes (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
 * Winnipeg Rods (Winnipeg, Manitoba)
 * Brampton Satellites (Brampton, Ontario)
 * Brantford Bisons (Brantford, Ontario)
 * Cornwall Emards (Cornwall, Ontario)
 * Niagara Raiders (St. Catharines, Ontario)
 * Oshawa Hawkeyes (Oshawa, Ontario)
 * Ottawa Junior Riders (Ottawa, Ontario, moved back to the QJFL after 2005)
 * Sault Ste. Marie Storm (Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario)
 * Thunder Bay Giants (Thunder Bay, Ontario)
 * Chateauguay Raiders (Chateauguay, Quebec)
 * Laval Scorpions (Laval, Quebec)
 * Notre-Dame-de-Grace Maple Leafs (Montreal, Quebec, merged with the Verdun Invictus, renamed to the Verdun Maple Leafs, then the Montreal Junior Alouettes, and finally the Montreal Junior Concordes)
 * St. Hubert Rebelles (Saint-Hubert, Quebec)
 * Verdun Shamcats (Verdun, Quebec)
 * Ville-Émard Juveniles (Ville-Émard, Quebec)
 * Toronto Junior Argonauts, (Toronto, Ontario)
 * Sherbrooke Blitz, (Quebec)
 * Quebec City Citadelles, (Quebec)
 * South Shore Cobras, (St-Hubert, Quebec)

Champions by city since 1947
Leader-Post Trophy, 1908–1973; Armadale Cup, 1974–1988; Canadian Bowl, 1989-present. The national championship was contested from 1908 to 1946 with breaks for the World Wars and an additional break in the mid-1930s. In these years the championship was won by teams from Toronto (7 times), Montreal (6 times), Hamilton (4 times), Regina (2 times), and once each by Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary, Ottawa, Petrolia, St. Thomas, Woodstock, and London.
 * Saskatoon, Saskatchewan - Saskatoon Hilltops 23 times - 2023, 2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2012, 2011, 2010, 2007, 2003, 2002, 2001, 1996, 1991, 1985, 1978, 1969, 1968, 1959, 1958, 1953.
 * Regina, Saskatchewan - 17 times, Regina Rams 16 times, 1998, 1997, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1987, 1986, 1981, 1980, 1976, 1975, 1973, 1971, 1970, 1966; Regina Thunder  1 time, 2013.
 * Edmonton, Alberta - 8 times, Edmonton Huskies 2005, 2004, 1964, 1963, 1962; Edmonton Wildcats 1983, 1977, 1967.
 * Hamilton, Ontario - 5 times, Hamilton Hurricanes 1972; Hamilton Jr. Tiger Cats 1951, 1950; Hamilton Jr. Wildcats 1949, 1948.
 * Ottawa, Ontario - Ottawa Sooners 4 times, 1992, 1984, 1979, 1974.
 * Nanaimo, British Columbia - Vancouver Island Raiders 3 times, 2009, 2008, 2006.
 * Windsor, Ontario - Windsor AKO Fratmen 3 times, 1999, 1954, 1952.
 * Winnipeg, Manitoba - Winnipeg Rods 3 times, 1961, 1956, 1955.
 * Kelowna, British Columbia - Okanagan Sun 3 times, 2022, 2000, 1988.
 * Calgary, Alberta - Calgary Colts 2 times, 1990, 1989.
 * Vancouver, British Columbia - 2 times, Renfrew Trojans 1982; Vancouver Blue Bombers 1947.
 * Montreal, Quebec - 2 times, Notre-Dame-de-Grace Maple Leafs 1965; Montreal Rosemount Bombers 1960.
 * Toronto, Ontario - Toronto Parkdale Lions 1 time, 1957.
 * Langley, British Columbia - Langley Rams 2021.

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Eugene Byrne

Eugene Byrne (born 25 February 1959) is an English freelance journalist and fiction writer. His novel ThigMOO, and the story it was based on, were nominated for the BSFA award. His story "HMS Habakkuk" was nominated for a Sidewise Award for Alternate History.

He was born in Waterford in the Republic of Ireland, but was brought up in Burnham-on-Sea, Somerset. He attended Dr Morgan's Grammar School, Bridgwater where he met Kim Newman.

Byrne was a contributing editor to Venue magazine. In 2006, as part of Bristol's Isambard Kingdom Brunel bicentennial celebrations, he wrote Isambard Kingdom Brunel: A Graphic Biography with artist Simon Gurr.

Novels

 * Back in the USSA (1997), co-written with Kim Newman; fix-up comprising short stories first published in Interzone magazine
 * Thigmoo (1999)
 * Things Unborn (2001)

Non-fiction

 * Isambard Kingdom Brunel: A Graphic Biography, with artist Simon Gurr (2006)
 * The Bristol Story: A Graphic and (Mostly) True History of the Greatest City in the World!, with artist Simon Gurr (2008)
 * Darwin: A Graphic Biography, with artist Simon Gurr (2009)

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Sagar, Madhya Pradesh

Sagar is a city, municipal corporation and administrative headquarter in Sagar district of the state of Madhya Pradesh in central India. The city is situated on a spur of the Vindhya Range, 1758 ft above sea-level around 172 km northeast of the state capital, Bhopal.

Sagar has been selected as one of the hundred Indian cities to be developed as a smart city under Prime Minister Narendra Modi's flagship Smart Cities Mission.

History
The ancient Indian kingdom of Chedi had its capital at Suktimati, which was located at Sagar during contemporary times. The history of Sagar District before 1022 A.D. is generally unknown; after that, records are available. Sagar was under the rule of Ahir Rajas and their capital was at Garhpehra. In 1660, Udenshah founded the present town of Sagar.

After 1735, the city came under the rule of the Peshwas. When Chhatrasal gave a region (Subha) to Bajirao, he appointed Govindpant Kher (later Bundele) as an administrator. Govindpant founded the city of Sagar next to the Sagar Lake and made the city his capital. In 1818, a large part of the Sagar district was ceded by Peshwa Baji Rao II to the British East India Company. Administratively, the position of Sagar and the neighbouring territories underwent frequent changes.

The Saugor territory was first placed under the superintendent of Political Affairs of Bundelkhand. Later, in 1820, this area, called the 'Saugor and Nerbudda Territories,' was placed under the administration of an agent to the governor-general. The region fell under the North-Western Province, following its constitution in 1835. In 1842 occurred the Bundela rising, the quelling of which demanded more direct attention from the Governor-General. But the order was restored in the following year, and the Saugor and Nerbudda Territories were again placed under the political control of an Agent named to the Governor-General. The arrangement, however, was not found to be satisfactory, and these territories were once again restored to the North-Western Provinces in 1853. After that in 1861, the Saugor and Nerbudda territories and the Nagpur state formed a Commissioner's Province called Central Provinces.

Geography
Sagar has an average elevation of 427 metres (1401 ft) and is located in the central part of India, just north of the upper limit of the Vindhya mountain ranges.here is a lake in middle of the city.

Climate
Sagar has humid subtropical climate (Köppen climate classification Cwa) with hot summers, a somewhat cooler monsoon season and cool winters. Very heavy rainfalls in the monsoon season from June to September.

Demographics
As per 2011 Indian Census, Sagar municipal corporation limit had a total population of 274,556, of which 143,425 were males and 131,131 were females. The population within the age group of 0 to 6 years was 32,610. The total number of literates in Sagar was 216,422, which constituted 78.8% of the population with male literacy of 82.6% and female literacy of 74.6%. The effective literacy rate of 7+ population of Sagar was 89.5%, of which male literacy rate was 93.7% and the female literacy rate was 84.8%. The Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes population was 54,432 and 3,052 respectively. Sagar had 52833 households in 2011.

Tehsils and community development blocks of Sagar

 * Banda
 * Bina
 * Garhakota
 * Malthone
 * Rehli
 * Sagar
 * Khurai
 * Shahgarh
 * Rahatgarh
 * Deori
 * Kesli
 * Jaisinagar

Economy
The nominal GDP of the district was estimated at Rs. 30,517 crores in 2020–21. It's 7th Largest District economy of Madhya Pradesh. Agriculture forms the backbone of the Sagar economy. Many districts completely rely on the income generated from agriculture taken up in the city. The farmers use the latest technologies pertaining to the sector of agriculture so that a healthy crop is obtained. A strong agriculture economy has led to an improvement in the living standards of people living in the city of Sagar. The chief crops grown here are chickpeas, wheat, oilseeds, and soghum. Sagar is also into poultry farming, animal husbandry, dairy farming, fisheries, forestry, and cattle fairs.
 * Agriculture

With many proposed large and small scale industries, the economy of Sagar is bound to grow at a fast pace. It is also a major hub for useful minerals. The stainless steel complex is also in Sagar. The lakha banjara lake in the centre of the city provides a wonderful panorama. Dr. Hari Singh Gour central university First and one of the oldest universities of Madhya Pradesh established in 1946 is in Sagar. Due to its scenic beauty and proximity to Khajuraho tourism also contributes to strengthening its economy. In Madhya Pradesh, Sagar is the sixteenth largest district in size. These small scale industries mainly manufacture steel utensils, detergent cake, and powder, agricultural equipment, welding electrodes, plastic goods, alum, caustic soda, solvent plant, granitbillie stone, pipes, acrylic sheets, PVC cable, acrylic products, incense sticks, all-purpose flour, etc. Bidi (A traditional Tobacco used in India) making is one o
 * Industry

Tourist places
Sagar has a noatble tourist places.
 * Garhpehra Temple :- This is also called old Sagar,was the capital of the Dangi Kingdom. It is situated six miles north of Sagar on Jhansi road. Gadphara still has some historical remains. The fort build on a low range of hills, is approached by a steep road leading to bastion, a rough gateway and a white washed temple on a platform. There are remains of a summer residence called a Shish Mahal or Glass palace of the Dangi Rular. It is a square building very much like a Muslim tomb consisting of two stores, each room having a veranda all around. The glassed tiles of various colors are fixed alternatively in the panel of the battlement and in the ribbing of the domes. It is attributed to Raja Jaisingh who is supposed to have live about 200 years ago. In the neighbour hood is a tomb which is treated as an object of worship.Below the hill toward the north is small lake called Motital.
 * Eran :- An ancient site lying at the junction of Bina and Reuta rivers, 6 miles from Bamora station on the central railways. By its natural situation, Eran is at the gate of Bundelkhand on one side and Malwa at the other. The name is derived from the abundant growth of ERAKA, a sort of grass of emollient and diligent properties. The village of Eran has a most interesting collection of archaeological relics. There is a fort in rulings attributed to the Dangis, who formerly dominated over this region. The site had a number of Vishnu shrines but nothing now remains except some of the lower courses of  masonry, four standing columns with there architrave and some beams and part of door ways. The Principal statue is a colossal Varaha about 10 feet high. The excavation conducted by the Department of Archaeology of the University of Sagar have yielded relics similar to those found at Maheshwar and Tripuri showing that Eran formed the Northern most limit of the Chalcolithic culture in Madhya Pradesh.
 * Rangir :- A village situated 10 miles from Rehli and 21 miles from Sagar on Sagar Rehli Road on the bank of the Dahar river. It was site of an engagement between Chatrasak Bundela and Khaliq, the Mugal Fauzdar of Damoni. On the adjoining Hill stands a temple of Harsiddi Devi in whose honour fairs are held in the months of Asvina and Chaitra.The Chaitra fair is an important one and large number of people visit the temple. The image of the goddess is held in great veneration and people believe that she changes her form thrice  every day, as a child at dawn, a young girl at mid day and an old women in the evening. A government rest house of forest department is located here
 * Khimlasa
 * Rahatgarh Waterfall
 * Nauradehi Wildlife Sanctuary
 * Sagar lake
 * Aabchand Caves :- In the ravines of river Gadheri,ensconced in the dense growth of Abchand reserve forest ( 23 45′ N and 78 55′ E), about 22 miles east of Sagar on the Sagar-Damoh road, exist about a dozen rock-cut caves with paintings of the same type as found at Singhanpur and Adamgarh.The largest cave is about 40 feet in length and its walls contain more than a dozen paintings showing activities of the pre-historic men.The hunting scenes represent individual or group of hunters. They are equipped with bows and arrows, spears and other weapons. The game animals shown in these paintings,are bison's, bulls,deer antelopes, tiger, boars etc. In one of the Shelters a fierce fight between two tigers is fitfully depicted.The primitive people seem to have amused themselves with songs and dances. At one place seven figures are shown dancing hand-in- hand in a row. In front of them are played instruments like drums, dhapli and flutes. The colours used in these paintings are yellow, green, red, black, and white. The red colour shows different shades, dark orche and pink. The super- imposition or overlapping is also clear in some cases. There are alos some symbolic representations such as the swastikia, taurine, cross and the tree within railing symbols.
 * Mandi BamoraBamora, Tehsil Khurai :– A large village, lying 23 degree 35’N and 79 degree 05’E is a railway station on the Bina-Itarsi line of the Central Railway. There is a ruined temple built of stone without mortar similar to the one at Janjgir. The date of erection is not known, but it is believed to be very ancient. It contains a small stone image of a Varaha and one of a horse with rider. In one corner is an image of Shiva placed there since the temple passed out of its original use. There are also Buddhist ruins in the village.

Cuisine
Sweets in Sagar's local delicacy include Chironji ki Barfi, Surkhi ki Mangodi, Gujrati Namkeen.

By Air
Sagar have own airport named Dhana Airport The apron area can accommodate 10–12 small aircraft. It also has a helipad.the airfield is often used by Madhya Pradesh Government Aviation and VIP charter aircraft as well as Medical evacuation flights.

The nearest Domestic Airport is Dumna Airport, Jabalpur roughly four hour drive from Sagar. The second nearest Domestic Airport is Raja Bhoj Airport, Bhopal, 200 km from the city. It is well connected to a spectrum of cities like Varanasi, Delhi, Lucknow, Kathmandu, Bhopal, Hyderabad and Kolkata via Indigo, Air India, Spice Jet, Jet Konnect and Jet Airways.

By Rail
It has its own Railway Station named as Sagar Railway Station which is connected to the major cities of Madhya Pradesh. It is well connected to the cities such as Delhi, Gwalior, Agra, Mathura, Jammu, Amritsar, Mumbai, Bangalore, Bhopal, Chennai, Goa and Hyderabad.

By Road
Sagar is 21 km from Karrapur, 29 km from Girwar, 45 km from Rehli, 64 km from Garhakota, 83 km from Damoh, 160 km from Jabalpur, 181 km from Bhopal, 208 km from Jhansi, 375 km from Indore through Madhya Pradesh State Road Transport Corporation (MPSRTC) and some private travel services.

Education

 * Bundelkhand Medical College, established in 2007
 * Dr. Hari Singh Gour University, formerly known as Sagar University, was founded on 18 July 1946 by Hari Singh Gour.
 * Indira Gandhi Engineering College, Sagar, established in 1981
 * Swami Vivekananda University, established in 2011
 * Sagar Homoeopathic Medical College, established in 2002

Notable people

 * Hari Singh Gour, pleader, jurist, parliamentarian, social reformer, First Vice-Chancellor of Delhi University
 * Sudha Jain, Indian politician
 * Gopal Bhargava, Indian politician
 * Govind Namdev, Television and film actor
 * Mahendra Mewati, Theatre and film actor
 * Mukesh Tiwari, Theatre and film actor
 * Virendra Kumar Khatik, Indian politician

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