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Michael Learns to Rock

Michael Learns to Rock (also known as MLTR) is a Danish power pop and pop rock band formed in 1988. The band currently consists of Jascha Richter, Mikkel Lentz and Kåre Wanscher. Søren Madsen was an original member of the group since its formation but left in 2000. The band has sold over 11 million records over the course of their career, with the majority sold in Scandinavia and Asia. Despite being Danish, the band performs songs in English. The band has attributed its success in Asia to their drug-free, clean-living image, and to singing in English as a second language.

MLTR has earned gold and platinum status for records in many countries and won many awards, including the Gold Preis Award from RSH, Germany and "The Best Performing Act of the Year" at the SEA Grammy Awards in Singapore. In addition, their song "Take Me to Your Heart" was awarded "most downloaded single of the year 2006" with 6 million or more paid downloads. The band has recorded nine studio albums as well as a number of live and greatest hits albums. Their latest studio album, Still, was released on 21 March 2018.

During the peak of their popularity in the mid and late 1990s, MLTR was described by critics as being "as good (if not better) a band as any current big name group out of America or the UK or the Australia." According to the band's record label releases, their sound is "the perfect balance of a Scandinavian glow and the international pop song that has been instrumental in forming the compelling sound of the band", although the lead singer and songwriter, Jascha Richter, disagrees with this, maintaining that the music defies geographical categorization.

Formation (1988–1992)
In 1988, singer Jascha Richter with the intent of forming a band to perform his songs, asked his high school friend and drummer Kåre Wanscher in Aarhus, Denmark to perform with him. Realizing the limitations of playing as a duo, they recruited the guitarist Mikkel Lentz, who was then playing rock music with his group the Rocking Studs. On 15 March 1988, their first night of practice made them realize they needed a fourth musician, so they asked Søren Madsen, another guitarist who was into Led Zeppelin, to join in on bass guitar. Although Madsen was not an obvious choice for a pop band, he was invited on the basis that he had been part of the band Hip Hop that had reached the finals of a Danish competition to nominate a song to the Eurovision Song Contest.

Since Richter already had a number of original songs, eliminating the need to jam, they were able to quickly record a demo tape intending it to be sent to the 'Rock Grand Prix' competition in their hometown Aarhus, they had to hurriedly come up with a name before posting it; Richter wrote as the name of the sender 'Michael Learns to Rock', partly inspired by a line from his school English textbook and partly because they were a pop band taking part in a rock concert. Lentz and Richter have admitted that the band was named after Michael Jackson: "I think Richter was thinking of Michael Jackson, because he was called 'the king of pop' and it was kind of funny, because it was like, what would he sound like if he learned to rock? It was wordplay," Lentz has stated. Richter claimed in an interview : "Yeah, it was like Johnny Hates Jazz and Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Sure, I've regretted calling ourselves this many times since, but we were successful so quickly, we had to stick with it and over time I got used to it."

On 22 May 1988, the quartet played their first public show in Aarhus in 'Rock Grand Prix' at Aarhus's biggest venue, Ridehuset. As one of the two winning teams, MLTR performed that summer at the Aarhus Outdoor Festival on 20 June, however, only 20 people turned up. The disappointment was offset by a daily newspaper, Information, describing the unknown group as "an immensely positive surprise". On 30 July 1988, the group entered and won the city's famed annual talent shows 'We Have The Stage – Do You Have The Music?' at Aarhus Musikhus.

Jens Peter (J.P.) Andersen, a member of the contest jury as well as a promoter of Danmarks Smukkeste Festival (literally, "Denmark’s Most Beautiful Festival") at Skanderborg, was impressed with the band's talent but was somewhat annoyed at their lack of professionalism, so he decided to become the band's manager, at the band's request. Michael Learns to Rock continued playing live throughout Jutland and recording material in order to attract the attention of Danish record labels. One of these efforts included the band contributing four tracks for the double album Secrets, a record organised by the Danish Rock Council to create interest in four talented but 'secret' new bands. They finally signed a record deal with the Danish label Medley in January 1989. However, the band did not release their first album, Michael Learns to Rock, until September 1991, backed by the American record label Impact Records and with much of the album including the first American single, "My Blue Angel", mixed and produced by the American producers Tony Peluso and Steve Barri.

Although not making any headway as intended in America despite airplay for "My Blue Angel", a later single (the second in Denmark after "I Still Carry On") from the album, "The Actor", topped the Danish chart and also did well in Norway, Sweden, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and the Philippines. In January 1992, the album topped the Danish charts, followed soon after by success in Asia, selling 25,000 copies and earning gold status in Indonesia alone.

International breakthrough (1993–1996)
Encouraged by the performance of their first album, Michael Learns to Rock released a second album, Colours, in October 1993 which sold over 1.1 million records. The album included the singles "Sleeping Child", "25 Minutes" and "Out of the Blue". The band toured Asia for the first time. At the Phoebus Concert Hall in Bangkok they played to their largest audience until then of 12,000 people. The performance of this album coupled with the band's live performances resulted in the band receiving 'The Best Performing Act of the Year' award in 1994 at SEA Grammy Awards in Singapore for their performance of "25 Minutes", followed by the 'Gold Preis' from the German radio station RSH (Radio Schleswig-Holstein) in 1995 for radio hits such as "Wild Women'" and "25 Minutes".

In August 1995, Michael Learns to Rock's third album Played on Pepper was released, selling more than 1.2 million units. Tracks in this album included "That's Why (You Go Away)" and "Someday". For the first time, the band recorded and produced the whole album themselves. To promote the album, the group performed 25 shows in ten countries. The release of this album also increased the band's presence in hitherto untapped markets like Brazil, South Africa, the UAE and eleven countries in the Far East, including Japan.

To capitalize on the success of Played on Pepper and to curb piracy, Michael Learns to Rock released the greatest hits album Paint My Love in October 1996, primarily in Asia; the album sold 3.4 million copies. The song, "Paint My Love", is an English version of "Kun med dig" by Danish singers Dorthe Andersen and Martin Loft, which was composed by Jascha Richter. The band was also chosen as the headliner for the 'Celebrate Hong Kong' concert on 6 July 1997, marking the transfer of Hong Kong from the United Kingdom to China. The album also topped the charts in South Africa with sales of more than 350,000 copies in South Africa alone.

Mainstream success in Asia (1997–1999)
They released their fourth studio album, Nothing to Lose, was released in September 1997, and also sold more than 1.1 million copies. In an incident that showcased Michael Learns to Rock's popularity in Asia, 20,000 fake tickets were sold (more than twice the number of real ones) for a concert in Hanoi, Vietnam, in December 1997 and while the concert was on, those outside with fake tickets tried to break into the concert hall through the windows causing riot police to be deployed. The band travelled to South Africa in January 1998, playing sell-out concerts in Johannesburg and Pretoria, consequently taking Nothing to Lose to the top of the charts in South Africa.

Soon after, the band's members took a break to spend time with their families and to develop projects on their own or in collaboration with other performers. They also decided to re-brand the band under the simpler name of MLTR. During the break, Richter wrote some new songs for the band, one of which is "Strange Foreign Beauty" that was later added to the 1999 greatest hits album Greatest Hits – Strange Foreign Beauty. In a process undertaken by MLTR for the first time, the song was made by compiling the best details from recordings of ideas made individually by the four members. This album included their previous hits, either remixed or refined in some way by notable international producers such as Chris Lord-Alge (for "Someday", "Something You Should Know" etc.), Cutfather & Joe (for "Sleeping Child") and the Swedish producer Per Magnusson (for the MLTR top hit "The Actor'"). This greatest hits album went to the top of the Danish sales charts (the second MLTR album after their first album to do so), as well in Sweden and Portugal, and logged sales of nearly a million copies.

Continuing as a trio (2000–2006)
In 2000, Søren Madsen decided to leave the group to embark on a solo career. The remaining three members set themselves the challenge of pursuing a sound different from that of their previous albums and thus produced the album Blue Night, which almost went platinum in Denmark and sold well in Asia, with sales over one million. The following year a biography of MLTR, Something You Should Know written by Poul Martin-Bonde, was published along with a few previously unreleased recordings. The English translation of the book was called It Never Rains on Bali, a reference to an incident that took place during the band's 1995 Bali concert, where a no-rain forecast proved wrong and the unexpected rain stopped the concert.

After the release of Blue Night, the band took a prolonged break, with Richter working on his solo album Planet Blue. The band later admitted that they even considered disbanding during this time. They ultimately decided against it, following the success of their greatest hits album releases, including 19 Love Songs / Love Ballads in 2002, which went to number 2 in Denmark.

In 2004, the band regrouped again, departing from the name MLTR, and using the original name for their sixth album called Michael Learns to Rock, released in Asia as Take Me to Your Heart. The album focused on the Asian market. The single "Take Me to Your Heart" was a remake of Jacky Cheung's "Goodbye Kiss" ("吻别"), and was popular in China, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Thailand and Taiwan. By the end of 2006 alone, the single created a record when it sold over 6 million paid downloads and was awarded the "Most Downloaded Single of the Year 2006". MLTR sang an English and Chinese duet of "Take Me to Your Heart" with the Chinese singer Hu Yanbin at a 2005 New Year's Party in Guangzhou, China. The band also sang the song with the South Korean star Shin Hye-sung, lead vocalist of the famous boy band Shinhwa. This album has been one of the major successes of MLTR in Asia, especially China.

Independent label; MLTR Music (2007–2013)
In 2007, MLTR performed at the Formula1 in Shanghai and The 6th Golden Eagle Award Ceremony. Later in the year, MLTR released The Best of Michael Learns to Rock Live and in July toured Hong-Kong, Taiwan, Thailand and Malaysia. Elsewhere, this album was released as The Live Musical Adventures of Michael Learns to Rock / I Walk This Road Alone, and featured live recordings from their Take Me to Your Heart Asian Tour, mainly from the September 2005 concerts in India.

In November 2008, MLTR released their seventh studio album titled Eternity under their own independent label, MLTR Music, in association with the Danish label At:tack. This album has the distinction of being the first MLTR album to be produced solely by Mikkel Lentz. The band mention on their website that the name is an indication of the fact that "the band plan to make music for as long as they still find joy in the process". Although the sales were slow (admittedly, according to the band), the second single from the album, "Sweetest Surprise" reached No. 1 in Thailand within a few weeks of release. The following year, another track, "It's Gonna Make Sense", gained popularity in Asia after it was played as the farewell song on the Philippine reality TV show Pinoy Big Brother. The promotion of the album took MLTR on the Eternity South East Asia Tour, the response to which, the band declare, has led them to consider playing more concerts abroad, especially in Southeast Asia.

Michael Learns to Rock completed touring their home-country Denmark, having played unplugged concerts in February and March 2010 with fair success. In June 2010, the band undertook a three-city promotional tour of India playing shows at Mumbai, Delhi and Bangalore to promote the latest album "Eternity". More Unplugged shows followed in Denmark in late 2010. The band also did a short promotional tour of China and Macau from 27 September to 1 October 2010 for their upcoming China concerts in December 2010 and to give a preview of their Chinese Tour Compilation CD. This was followed up with their first ever international Unplugged concerts at Beijing, Shanghai and Guangzhou in December 2010. The track "Fairy Tale", an English cover version of a song originally performed by singer Li Jian, and later popularized by Hong Kong pop diva Faye Wong, was released in conjunction with the CD release. Following this, the band was scheduled to play another unplugged tour in Denmark in spring 2011.

In a blog, dated 13 April 2010 on the band's website, the band announced that they have started working on their next album. Over the latter part of 2010 and throughout 2011, Michael Learns to Rock began giving feelers about their next studio album on their official Facebook page. The album which was till then not named, was set to be released on 11 August 2011 in Europe and Denmark, with releases following in other territories around the same time, but was subsequently postponed to an unspecified later date. In a teaser Facebook update, the band revealed the name of one of the tracks to be "Ice Breaker". Elsewhere, in a note on his Facebook Page, Jascha Richter had revealed the name of another song, "Hanging On", from the forthcoming album.

On 19 November 2011, the band unveiled the song "Any Way You Want It" from the forthcoming album at a live concert in Kathmandu produced and organized by ODC Network (P)LTD. The band also shot footage in and around Kathmandu and during the performance of the song, to include it on the song's music video. The video of the song was then released formally on 11 June 2012 by the band on YouTube first, and soon after, it started airing on TV in India and Nepal.

The studio album Scandinavia was released on 11 June 2012 in India digitally by Virgin Records on Nokia Music. Subsequently, release of the physical CD of album took place in many Asian countries, namely India (30 June 2012), Malaysia (2 July), Singapore (4 July), Thailand (12 July), Korea (12 July), Taiwan (13 July), Hong Kong (17 July), Philippines (19 July), Indonesia (15 August), and then in China. The album was released in Denmark by Sony Music Denmark on 3 September 2012. The album was also made available in Asia on iTunes. As in the case of the previous album Eternity, the album Scandinavia was also solely produced by Mikkel Lentz.

The first single from Scandinavia, "Renovate My Life", was released on iTunes on 9 June 2012, going on air in Denmark from 11 June. The album release began on 11 June 2012, with the release of a music video for "Any Way You Want It" on YouTube, as well as the digital release of the album in India. The music video features different places of Kathmandu valley and the capital city of Nepal, where the band performed a concert in November 2011. The physical CD of Scandinavia was first released on 30 June 2012 in India by Virgin Records, by Warner Music during July in Southeast Asia, and by Sony Music on 3 September 2012 in Denmark.

25th anniversary, side projects, new album (2014–2020)
In 2014, the group released 25: The Complete Singles in commemoration of the band's 25th anniversary, released on 25 October 2014, which included two new studio recordings. The first single, "Silent Times" was released on 16 September 2014, followed by "Call on Love", released on 18 December 2014. The band also recorded "Eternal Love", the theme song of the Korean drama series, Healer. The song was written by Lee Sang Joon, Denzil "DR" Remedios, and Ryan Jhun Sewon. In 2015, the group released the single "I'll Wait for You" on 6 November 2015. In 2016, they released the single "We Shared the Night" on 5 February 2016, their Valentine's Day gift to their fans.

The song "It's Gonna Make Sense" from the album Eternity was featured in the Indian film Welcome M1LL10NS, directed by Milroy Goes, in which Mikkel Lentz contributed the background score to the film. The film was filmed in the states of Goa and Punjab. It was also contested at the 91st Academy Awards and qualified at Oscars 2019 in the General Category.

The band had been working on their new record over the course of 2017 and into early 2018. In late January 2018, the band organized a competition over their social media platforms for the title of their upcoming album. Over the course of the week, they released the titles of the songs slated to be released through their new record. On 2 February 2018, the band released a new single titled "Everything You Need".

After the contest, the band announced its winner, as well as the title of their ninth studio album, Still. Released on 21 March 2018 through all digital music platforms successfully and on limited number of special physical copies, the album features songs that sound like "Michael Learns to Rock but [it] sounds like today," according to Wanscher.

Touring
As of September 2010, Michael Learns to Rock have played over 450 shows, including both large and small open-air & closed-hall stage concerts, TV appearances, unplugged and sing-back gigs, over a period of 22 years. In total, MLTR have played in at least 21 countries and territories which include Denmark, Nepal, Indonesia, China, Thailand, Malaysia, the Philippines, Hong Kong, India, Japan, Singapore, Taiwan, South Africa, Switzerland, Bangladesh, UAE, Faroe Islands, Vietnam, Cambodia, Norway, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Papua New Guinea and Sweden. They have also traveled to Hollywood for recording part of their debut album, to Spain, Finland and Germany to attend interviews, and to the UK to shoot a video. In Asia, MLTR are one of the few artists to have played more than once in a country and to have still sustained an audience turn-out comparable to that of their earlier appearances.

Michael Learns to Rock were also the first international act to have performed in Cambodia when they played a show (that was also televised live) in front of 700 fans in CTN's Studio One in Phnom Penh in October 2005. The alternative version of their live album called The Live Musical Adventures of Michael Learns to Rock-I Walk This Road Alone features 14 live audio recordings mostly from their September 2005 show at Shillong, India, and a few video recordings from other live shows in Asia.

In various interviews, the band members have admitted that touring and the response from fans to their concerts, among other reasons, keep them together, in spite of the stresses associated with traveling. In a recent interview Mikkel Lentz said, "The reason we stay together is because it makes sense. Our fans come to our shows and we still enjoy playing and travelling, so why should we stop? There is also the pleasure of making music, even though sometimes things like television shows or interviews can become a little boring." Kåre Wanscher has also said in an interview that the highest points of their career have been when they were out touring Asia over the last few years.

MLTR toured China in December 2010, playing unplugged concerts. The 2011 spring leg of the Danish tour started on 17 February 2011 and ended on 12 March 2011 with MLTR playing gigs in most of the Danish cities and towns, many of which were sold out. MLTR then completed their first full-production concert tour after their extended unplugged stint by playing on 22 April 2011 at Penang, 24 April 2011 at Kuala Lumpur and 30 April 2011 at Kuantan in Malaysia.

The Summer tour commenced on 11 August 2011 with the band playing in Skanderborg, and later on 12 August 2011 at Aarhus and on 13 August at Aabenraa.

The band played on 19 November 2011 for the first time ever in Kathmandu, Nepal at the Tudikhel Ground, as the headliners of Nepal Rocks. The band were only the second internationally acclaimed band to play in Nepal, after the Canadian artist Bryan Adams did so earlier in the year. They also performed in Dhaka, Bangladesh on 22 June 2012 and in Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia on 7 and 8 December 2012.

The band is the first to stream their 25th anniversary concert live to a global audience, using the Subcell smartphone app. The concert was broadcast live in sound and video from the Skanderborg Smukfest festival in Denmark on 11 August 2013. In Asia, their MLTR 25 Tour was staged in the Philippines on 19 September 2015.

On 13 December 2015, MLTR performed live for the first time in North East India's prehistoric ancient city of Guwahati (earlier known as Pragjyotishpur) in Assam in front of a 75,000 strong audience at the huge Sarusajai Stadium, in company of multiple award-winning popular Assamese-Indian singer-composer Jim Ankan Deka. The musical night was inaugurated with multilingual performances by Jim Ankan Deka and his music band VooDoo Child, wherein they sang their own compositions of Assamese and English songs. The attendance in the show was unprecedented in the city of Guwahati so far.

On 31 August 2017, MLTR's first stop in their Eternal Asia Tour was staged at the Kia Theatre in Manila to a sold-out crowd.

In October 2022, the band played in the cities of Manila, Cebu, and Davao as part of their Back on The Road Tour 2022 in the Philippines.

Musical style and influences
Michael Learns to Rock infuses soft rock and ballads and follows a basic verse-chorus song-form (which is typical of most pop songs) with lyrics comprising straight forward and short-length phrasing incorporating very basic sentence constructions. The verses consist of either one or two couplets and the chorus often contrasts the verse melodically, rhythmically, and harmonically, assuming a higher level of dynamics and activity. The essence of this style followed invariably by MLTR is evident from Jascha Richter's dead-pan response to a query in an interview as to what constituted the elements of a good song: "You got to have a chorus and a verse". Many songs incorporate a bridge section following the second chorus section (most notably "25 Minutes", "That's Why (You Go Away)", "Someday", "Paint My Love", "Blue Night" etc.). Many songs also contain instrumental solos, more commonly, guitar (e.g. "Someday", "That's Why (You Go Away)", "How Many Hours", "The Actor", "Something You Should Know", "Breaking My Heart", "Watch Your Back" etc.) and sometimes the keyboard (e.g. "Messages"), following the second chorus or following the bridge, in case the latter is present. Vocal harmonies also constitute a common feature of their songs.

Lentz admits that they never really jam to come out with or develop upon a song and most of MLTR's songs are written and composed by Richter on the piano. According to Richter, however, after he has written the song, Lentz takes the ideas further and makes it into a final production. Lentz insists that MLTR do not fit to any genre of music except for having a classic pop-sound. Further, he believes the secret behind MLTR's sustained music career is the non-conformance to any musical trends; "We never tried to follow trends. I think that's the reason we are still around. There's been trip hop, grunge, pop. We never fitted into these trends. What seems to be tough then is now our strength. They're just songs. The songs don't belong to a musical wave."

Michael Learns to Rock have cited their influences to be Supertramp, Elton John, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Stevie Wonder, Eagles, Billy Joel, ABBA, Bee Gees and "all the bands that write good lyrics" (as Mikkel Lentz puts it tongue-in-cheek). Lentz, however, denies the influence of Michael Jackson in their music.

However, Richter revealed on his Facebook page in response to a fan's query that Michael Jackson's music did influence their music, especially the latter's Bad album which was released in the year preceding MLTR's formation. Also, Richter has cited Talk Talk, a-ha and Eurythmics to be his influences. A-ha's international success, in spite of originating from the small Scandinavian country of Norway, instilled the self-belief in the MLTR members that even they, hailing from a similarly small Scandinavian country (Denmark), could carve out a career for themselves in international music.

Despite being branded simplistic, easy-listening and sometimes, down-right cheesy, banal or even naive by many, Michael Learns to Rock maintain that these are the very qualities of their lyrics and music which have found favour with Asian music listeners.

Band members

 * Current line-up
 * Jascha Richter - lead vocals, keyboards, guitar, piano (1988–present)
 * Mikkel Lentz - lead guitar, backing vocals, keyboards, rhythm guitar (1988–present)
 * Kåre Wanscher - drums, percussion, backing vocals (1988–present)

 * Former member
 * Søren Madsen - bass, rhythm guitar, backing vocals, percussion (1988–2000)

 * Touring member
 * Troels Skjaerbaek - bass

Discography

 * Michael Learns to Rock (1991)
 * Colours (1993)
 * Played on Pepper (1995)
 * Nothing to Lose (1997)
 * Blue Night (2000)
 * Michael Learns to Rock (2004)
 * Eternity (2008)
 * Scandinavia (2012)
 * STILL (2018)

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Talk:List of presidents of Benin/Archive 1

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I would like to get some consensus on the format of lists of incumbents.

I have been working on standardised format for Heads of State and Heads of Government. However my work is regularly being reverted to a previous, more cluttered, less detailed and inaccurate version.

A case in point is List of Presidents of Benin where clearly very few of the listed incumbents were actually 'president'.

My version, which is now located at User:JohnArmagh/Heads of State of Benin clarifies the office of the imcumbent and details the political party of the incumbent whilst uncluttering the format.

It appears though, that I am not allowed to use it. The reason behind this is that it is duplication (or, as it has been called, quote:stupid duplication) of the List of Presidents of Benin. However whilst the names of the incumbents are essentially the same, the latter includes a description that is specific to the post of President, whilst including non-presidential incumbents in the list.

So it currently appears that lists of Heads of State which include at least one President must be titled Presidents of Xxxx, which can only serve to render the information held in the Wikipedia as amateurish.

If this is an enshrined policy of Wikipedia then the phrase You are encouraged to create, expand, and improve upon articles on the edit page should be removed as it is clearly untrue.

--JohnArmagh 16:45, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * There is no such policy (Presidents of Xxxx instead of Heads of State of Xxxx), AFAIK. It's just one user, probably. Personally, I would prefer your format, except for the explanation of the abbreviations at the top. Move that to the bottom, and I would be completely happy with it. Only User:Gzornenplatz knows what his objections to your format are; have you tried asking him, on his talk page or on Talk:List of Presidents of Benin? About the name: I prefer the (simpler) name "List of Presidents", but only if it is accurate. In this case, "List of Heads of State" would be my preference. Eugene van der Pijll 17:52, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for this Eugene - most welcome. I have discussed this on User:Gzornenplatz' talk-page, and his suggestion was to post it here for a consensus.

 * I am concerned that there is some kind of standardisation of the lists without making the detail at variance with the title.

 * There is no wikiwide standardisation. But it seems that the objection on User talk:Gzornenplatz' was about duplication: one article named "Heads of State", and one named "List of Presidents". That would be bad, and one of those should probably be made into a redirect. Of course, because of the lack of standardization, this kind of duplication will happen from time to time.

 * In this case, you could move the "List of Presidents" to "List of Heads of State". Or you could wait for a few more opinions, if you want.

 * I have been in two minds about the placing of the abbreviations at the foot of the list rather than the top. I can see that it detracts from the list of incumbents if it appears before it (especially if the listing is short), but then again if the abbreviations appear at the end of a long list of incumbents then it takes a lot of scrolling down to.  I could put it on a separate page, but I don't really want the reader to have to go back-&-forth between pages.  I think the remedy is to put a link above the list the abbreviations at the foot of the list - but I haven't tried it yet to see how well it works.

 * regards --JohnArmagh 18:09, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * With the title of the page, you promise a list of presidents; it would be best if the reader sees that list as soon as possible, preferrably on the first screen. Perhaps put the list of parties at the bottom, and add "See below" to the heading of the "Affiliations" column. A separate page would be really bad, although a separate article on political parties in Benin would be great. Eugene van der Pijll 18:50, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

 * I do agree with you, and User:Siroxo has provided assistance at User:JohnArmagh/Heads of State of Benin in making the Affiliation heading into a link to the list at the bottom of the page, which I like.

--JohnArmagh 19:01, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * I had moved the page List of Presidents of Benin to Heads of State of Benin but User:Gzornenplatz didn't like it and as a measure of his disgust, reverted the data to the previous list and renamed the Head of State of.... page back to President of...

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Heads of State of Benin
List of Heads of State of Benin

(Dates in italics indicate de facto continuation of office)

Affiliations:-
FARD = Front d'Action pour le Rénouveau et le Développement (Action for Renewal and Development) – centrist

PD = Parti Démocratique (Democratic Party) - merger of PRD and UDD 1964

PRB = Parti de la Renaissance du Bénin (Party for the Rebirth of Benin) – centrist

UTRD = Union pour le Triomphe du Renouvellement Démocratique (Union for the Triumph of the Democratic Renewal)

PRD = Parti du Rénouveau Démocratique (Democratic Renewal Party)

PRPB = Parti du Revolutionare Popular du Benin (Popular Revolutionary Party of Benin) - communist only legal party 1979-1990

RDD = Rassemblement Démocratique du Dahomé (Dahomey Democratic Rally)

UDD = Union Démocratique du Dahomé (Dahomey Democratic Union)

Mil = Military

n-p = non-partisan

See also:-

 * Heads of Government of Benin
 * Colonial Heads of Benin (Dahomey)
 * Lists of Incumbents

Well, thanks for finally bringing this to talk, halfway through your attempt to create a fait accompli. Your format is questionable in many respects: So much for now; there are probably more problems on particular pages. Gzornenplatz 20:16, Aug 19, 2004 (UTC)
 * 1) First of all, as others have already told you, it makes no sense to have separate articles "Heads of state of X" and "Presidents of X" (or "Heads of government of X" and "Prime ministers of X"). The case can be made for using the "Heads of ..." format as being more precise in many cases, although I don't see much of a problem with using "Presidents of ..." when the country had only a few heads of state with different titles. In any case, there should be only one article, with the other title redirecting to it. One might consider that tons (literally, thousands) of links are pointing to the original "Presidents of ..." articles via the "List of state leaders in ..." pages.
 * 2) Your data is obviously taken directly from http://worldstatesmen.org, which is a crappy site. I can find errors on virtually every single page of that site. Just take your Benin example above, where you give the name of the former ruling party as "Parti du Revolutionare Popular du Benin". Googling this leads to the single result of worldstatesmen.org, proving what is already apparent to anyone with the slightest knowledge of French: almost every word there is wrong (the correct name is Parti de la Révolution Populaire du Bénin). This is just an example; if you want to dispute the crappiness of that source, just tell me how many examples of errors you want me to point out. So, for this reason alone, all your lists based on that source are better deleted - it is not worth going through this correcting just the errors. As a general lesson here, never take information from a single unauthoritative website. Information from the web is only valid if it either appears on multiple, mutually independent sites (i.e. sites which can be presumed not to have copied the information from each other), or if it is on a site that has proved reliable on careful scrutiny (of course that requires that one has minimal competence to judge that).
 * 3) As a consequence of the above, you are following the daft practice of that site of listing obscure full names without specifying what the common form is. Full names are only needed in the articles about the respective persons, in a list like this they are nothing but confusing. Example from Benin again: "Iropa Maurice Kouandété" (common name is Maurice Kouandété, but seeing just the full name people will more likely assume that the middle name is expendable and that the proper short form is Iropa Kouandété).
 * 4) You have a major misunderstanding of the word "term" as you are using it where the correct word is "time". A term in politics is a period for which one is appointed or elected, not a period one is continuously in office. For example, Clinton's continuous presidency from 1993 to 2001 was two terms, but in your format it would just figure as one, as you never differentiate consecutive terms, only non-consecutive periods in office. Using Benin again for example, Kérékou's period in office from 1972 to 1991 was of course more than one term!
 * 5) Your practice of listing the same person twice in succession, just because the person was knighted or the like, is not aiding readability, to say the least.
 * 6) Your use of bold/unbold text within one name (as in knights) and your use of different font sizes within one office title (as in "Chairman of the Revolutionary Committee" above) does not make any sense.
 * 7) The "Term" column wraps at least on some (probably most people's) window widths/font sizes - thanks to the generally unnecessary "Notes" column - making the whole thing even less readable.
 * 8) You are repeating the office title for each incumbent. There will be lists with 100 people in succession, all holding the same title - the standard title (such as president) should only be mentioned once, with only the exceptions noted individually.

 * I am studying the comments above and will give a reply and/or justification to each point raised. --JohnArmagh 20:32, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

OK, here is my reply to each point.

1. A currently short list of presidents of an existing state will over time grow longer - and the incumbent or regime may not in the future bear the title assumed by the page name/heading. Therefore, the use of a generic label such as 'head of state' rather than a specific title, i.e. 'president' is a means of future-proofing so that the page heading does not, over time, become anachronistic.

2(a) As you point out I am using http://www.worldstatesmen.org, though not exclusively. I am researching other sources for corroboration where it is available. If the data I have included is incorrect then the mechanism of the Wikipedia is that someone with access to, or knowledge of, more reliable data is able to correct the details.

(b) I have indeed noticed many errors in the site (not least typographical) and those I have spotted I have been rectifying, Those I have missed will be corrected by other Wikipedians.

(c) Although I have tried to find other sources, it is becoming increasingly difficult as data becomes repeatedly spread from a single source (witness, for example, the number of on-line encyclopaedias taking their data from the Wikipedia)

3 I would contend that the full name of the incumbent, where known, is important. Otherwise the list may as well just consist of surnames. I use the style of text to show the common name by which the individual is known (which I come onto at 6, below.

4 Contrary to your assumption, I fully understand the word term in the political, etymological and vernacular senses. However I chose the word in preference to time because the latter word does not per se convey a contiguous period of time, whereas term does.

5 I would much rather have only one entry per individual per term – but I am uncomfortable where a person is referred to as one thing at the beginning of a tenure that it is held that they are to be referred to as that throughout, (and the same is true of the name/title of a person at the end of their tenure). I am not keen on sidenotes or notes in parentheses denoting such changes, as such texts, where they exist at all, should be kept to the minimum relevant to that tenure. Also in some instances the use of style varies so much that it can be quite difficult to work out what is happening and when. Take, for instance the following from the reviled worldstatesmen.org:-

8 Nov 1982 - 4 Aug 1983  Jean-Baptiste Ouedraogo            (b. 1942)            Mil (chairman Provisional Committee                             of Popular Salvation [provisional                              to 11 Nov 1982] to 26 Nov 1982,                              then Head of State) 4 Aug 1983 - 15 Oct 1987 Thomas Sankara                     (b. 1949 - d. 1987)  Mil (chairman National Revolutionary                              Council and Head of State) 15 Oct 1987 -             Blaise Compaoré                    (b. 1951)        Mil/FP;Dec 1991 (President of Popular Front [from 31 Oct 1987    ODP-MT;1996 CDP                              also Head of State] to 24 Dec 1991)

I had to write it down and juggle it about to make sense of it. Doubtless you would contend though that I have wasted my time.

6 The use of font weight and style in the name is to allow prominent display the common name at-a-glance, separate from the titles, qualifications, etc. The small text is to shorten the length of titles as I would like to avoid any one incumbent going onto a second line and spreading the data out wherever practical.

7 My view of lists where titles of office are used against the name only where they differ from the generally used title is that it makes the list look untidy and incomplete. Also, having the mainly-used title at the top (or at the point in the list where it changes) means that in a long list one has to scroll up to see what the incumbent's office was – whereas the repetitious use obviates this.

In summary, each of your comments is, of course, very valid, and this is the reason I felt you deserved a considered response. I am doubtful that you will be swayed by any of my reasoning. But then this is a subjective matter and there is no reason why you should be.

The lists as they stand however vary considerably in style, format, content and level of detail. I feel this is a matter which should be addressed. Clearly though, you are of the opinion that it should be addressed by someone other than myself.

Regards --JohnArmagh 06:05, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Applewood

Applewood is the wood of an apple tree. It can add flavor to dishes, such as "Applewood smoked bacon". "Applewood" can also refer to any of the following:

Places

 * Applewood, Colorado, USA
 * Applewood, Swords, Ireland
 * Applewood Farm, Connecticut, USA
 * Applewood Park, Calgary, Canada
 * Applewood (Flint, Michigan), USA

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List of tallest buildings in India

This article ranks the tallest buildings in India that stand at least 190 m tall, based on standard height measurements. This means that spires and other architectural details are included in the official height, but not antenna masts, as it is defined by the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat. Only habitable buildings are ranked, which excludes radio masts and towers, observation towers, temples, chimneys, and other tall architectural structures.

The era of skyscrapers in India began with the completion of the LIC Building in Chennai in 1959. With 12 floors initially, it was the first skyscraper in the country and remained the tallest building in the country until 1961, when it was surpassed by the 25-story Usha Kiran Building in Mumbai. Many taller buildings have appeared in various cities in the country ever since. Palais Royale in Mumbai had structurally topped out in 2018 as the tallest building in the country with a height of 320 meters, but the building is still under construction. Lokhandwala Minerva, also in Mumbai, with a height of 301 m and 78 floors, is the tallest completed building in the country. Several taller buildings are under construction, and some are on hold. The tallest buildings in some of the Indian cities are:-

 * 1) Mumbai: Palais Royale
 * 2) Kolkata: The 42
 * 3) Noida: Supernova Spira
 * 4) Gurugram: Trump Towers Delhi NCR Towers 1 & 2
 * 5) Chennai: SPR City Tower H
 * 6) Hyderabad: Lodha Bellezza
 * 7) Pune: Amanora Gateway Towers
 * 8) Navi Mumbai: Mahajan's Hospital
 * 9) Bengaluru: CNTC Presidential Tower

Mumbai has the highest number of skyscrapers and high-rise buildings in India; more than 200 skyscrapers and 5,600  high-rise buildings currently exist in the Mumbai Metropolitan Region. Delhi-NCR has also witnessed a massive construction boom in the last 20 years with around 23 skyscrapers and 5,200      high-rise buildings already constructed in the region. Kolkata has 14 existing skyscrapers and around 800 completed high-rise buildings. Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Ahmedabad, Chennai, Pune, Surat and Kochi also have numerous high-rise buildings.

Tallest buildings
This list includes buildings that have been completed or have topped out. Architectural height is used; therefore masts and other elements are discounted in height measurement. This includes spires and architectural details, but does not include antenna masts. The buildings in this list are above 190 m:-

Tallest buildings (under-construction)
This lists ranks buildings that are under construction in India and are planned to rise at least 200 m or 65 floors tall. Buildings that are only approved, on hold or proposed are not included in this table.

On hold
This list ranks buildings that were once under construction and are now on hold and are planned to rise at least 200 m or 40 floors tall.

Proposed or approved
This list ranks buildings that are approved or proposed and are planned to rise at least 200 m or 50 floors tall.

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Fairoaks Airport

Fairoaks Airport is a general aviation airport between Chobham and Chertsey in Surrey, England. It is 2 NM north of Woking and 2.8 mi from Junction 11 of the M25 motorway which is between the M3 and A3 junctions.

History
Fairoaks opened as a private airstrip in 1931, but was signed up for military use in 1936 and became RAF Fairoaks during World War II. It was used as a training airfield, with No. 18 Elementary & Reserve Flying School being formed on 1 October 1937 equipped with De Havilland Tiger Moths. 6,000 pilots were trained at the airfield, mostly in Tiger Moths. Terence O'Brien, an Australian pilot, later wrote a series of books about his experiences in the RAF. In "Chasing After Danger", he recounts doing primary flight training on Tiger Moths at Fairoaks in 1940, when it was still a grass aerodrome.

The unit was re-designated No. 18 Reserve Flying School on 14 May 1947 and was managed by Universal Flying Services. The Tiger Moths were replaced by De Havilland Canada Chipmunks in 1951 but the school was disbanded on 31 July 1953.

In the early postwar years, the airfield was managed by Universal Flying Services, which operated a flying training school and provided aircraft maintenance services. The airfield was sold by auction in 1967. Alan Mann Helicopters began operations there in 1968 after which The Alan Mann Group became the operator. The hard runway was constructed in 1979. The Alan Mann Group sold its interests in 2008 to Albemarle Fairoaks Airport Ltd which owns Fairoaks Operations Ltd, the operator. The landside buildings were owned by West Register Property until they sold their interest on 8 December 2015 to TEREF ADP Fairoaks Limited, a company registered in Jersey number 120101 which was formed on 27 November 2015.

On 25 November 2016 the airport owners announced plans to close the airport, and build a 1,500 unit housing development to be known as "Fairoaks Garden Village". In June 2022, Surrey Heath Borough Council announced that the proposed development would not form part of its Draft Local Plan, which identifies sites for new homes in the local area.

Current operation
Fairoaks Aerodrome has a United Kingdom Civil Aviation Authority Ordinary Licence that allows flights for the public transport of passengers or for flying instruction as authorised by the licensee. The facility is used by light aircraft, some of which are operated by its two resident training schools - Synergy Aviation and London Transport Flying Club. Its business centre is substantially dedicated to aviation-related enterprises, including the headquarters of the European Regions Airline Association and the British Helicopter Advisory Board.

Fairoaks was formerly equipped with a non-directional beacon (NDB) for short-range radio navigation, until its withdrawal in January 2020.

There is a low-category fire and rescue service, operating a Category 3 fire service to allow commercial operations of mid sized turboprops and small jets. The fire and rescue vehicles comprise two Terberg TACR-3 vehicles.

From 1994 until 2009 one of three South East Regional Air Support Unit (Metropolitan and Surrey Police Forces) helicopters (and for a period of this time one for the latter force alone) were at Fairoaks. In June 2009, the remaining police helicopter was transferred to RAF Odiham in Hampshire on security grounds.

There are no restrictions on the number of helicopter movements, but fixed wing movements are limited to 120,000 per annum.

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Architecture (built environment)

Architecture (built environment) was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was MERGE and REDIRECT to Architectural history. Rossami 23:09, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

This page pertains to the text(now in a totally changed and unfinished state left by a new user) from the original architecture page on buildings which was turned into a disambiguation page by me because of problems of overlap of meanings. Now another user(rightly in my opinion, but this is open to discussion) has made the architecture page on buildings the main page and the disambiguation page as secondary. So this page has now become redundant. KRS 19:09, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC) This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like other '/delete' pages is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Merge and redirect. No need for deletion.   — Gwalla | Talk 22:31, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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External Link - Illustrated Book on Tunnel Construction
Project Gutenberg has "Tunneling: A Practical Treatise" by Charles Preleni with public domain full text and illustrations. Many of the illustrations would work for this article. A description of the history of tunneling, construction process, finding the center line, how to join up a tunnel dug from each end, ... would be helpful for this article. Adding a link to the public domain book would help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D591:5F10:BC70:D931:6D17:23A5 (talk) 04:53, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Wartime Tunnels
I suppose someone intended to fill in this section, then forgot about it...I'm inclined to remove the section since in its current form, it is not that informative, but maybe someone else wants to have a go at adding some information :P -- Ferkelparade π 19:12, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)

As mentioned above, I removed the following section:
 * ==Wartime tunnels==
 * Castles, sappers
 * trench warfare: Crimea, US Civil War, WWI
 * Germany WWII, V2 factories, slave labor
 * North Korea, infiltrators, midget subs...
 * Japan, Corregidor, etc. (Neal Stephenson's Cryptonomicon?)
 * Vietnam, tunnel rats ("Platoon"?), spider holes
 * Cold War: nuclear bunkers, etc.

The section does have some potential, but in its current state, it is totally useless :p If anybody wants to have a go at expanding it to something useful, I can see it growing into something pretty interesting, but a simple to-do-list with lots of question marks does not really belong in an article. -- Ferkelparade π 09:49, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Oldest Tunnel?
As of early August 2005 the article says the oldest tunnel is the Saperton. The Romans built aqueducts in tunnels 2000 years ago. And there were even older underground water conduits in mesopotania. -- Geo Swan 14:19, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Woops, that wasn't the intention. The sections are merely a means of categorizing notable tunnels based on what is notable about them, other than that they are someone's favorite tunnel in the country of choice. I've renamed the one in question.

 * If you feel it is noteworthy, please consider adding the above information to the list. Davilla 18:55, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Additionally it would appear that the Babalonyians built a tunnel under the Euprhates River c. 2180 B.C. see www.answers.com/topic/tunnel --Bgrainger 23:31, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

 * This claim also made in NY Times on 1990-12-02, and at, and , although the later has a comment "every reference I have found to date seems to stem from this article".   Open4D (talk) 18:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Taiwan Straits tunnel?
The Jingtai Expressway article reports that plans are under consideration for a road link between Beijing and Taipei, including a possible tunnel under the Taiwan Straits from the Chinese mainland (likely Fujian province, according to the article). If this is confirmed, surely it might be notable on the topic of tunnels. --Dpr 16:25, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Longest?
I suggest we remove the listing of the St. Gotthard Tunnel from the list of the longest tunnels, as there is already a longer road tunnel listed. --ZorroIII 22:52, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Fixed links across planned elsewhere?
Can anyone add more info on the possible plans of contructing a tunnel and/or bridge across to the other side elsewhere? I am quite curious as to whether any steps have been taken to decide to build infrastructure links across the:
 * Strait of Messina
 * Fehmarn Belt
 * Cook Strait
 * Palk Strait
 * Strait of Tartary
 * Irish Sea
 * Strait of Bonifacio
 * Surigao and San Bernardino Straits
 * Hainan Strait
 * Strait of Georgia
 * Kvarken
 * Chacao Channel
 * Strait of Magellan
 * Bering Strait

Anyone with inside knowledge on any of these? I've posted similar requests elsewhere. Gruesome Twosome! 8v] //Big Adamsky 10:03, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Small Edit Note
I edited *The Fredhälls Tunnel in Stockholm, Sweden is busier yet (150,000) but there are probably even more busy tunnels to*The Fredhälls Tunnel in Stockholm, Sweden is busier yet (150,000) because it was unverfiable and thefore invalid by the rules of Wiki.--WngLdr34 01:27, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

The tunnel experience
Wanted to insert the following, but the current article is not yet receptive for history/social sciences. "In Victorian times, it was anticipated that going through a dark tunnel in a train at high speed (30 mph) would be such a shocking experience that people would come out the other side irreversibly damaged." --Brz7 22:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Need for economics comparison section
This article could be made more useful to those studying transportation systems if it included a section detailing tunnel economics versus economics of other transport systems such as surface roadways, surface trains, elevated railways, etceteras...  Several cities have had costly underground commercial transportation tunnels built (e.g. London Post Office Railway and the very lengthy Chicago Tunnel System) that subsequently closed due to poor economics. What changed between conception, construction and closure? Were the original economic analysis faulty, did other transportation systems become more cost competitive, or did the original tunnel system contract customers cease operations (such as discontinuation of coal deliveries in Chicago after the advent of gas heating)? In an increasing congested urban environment such economic analysis would benefit those studying, planning or implementing urban transportation systems. 206.47.191.132 (talk) 16:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC) Zoomeri

Railway tunnel creation?
'Railway tunnel' and 'Rail tunnel' should not redirect to this article. They should have their own article. For example, Channel Tunnel. 'Tunnel' is too broad. WinterSpw (talk) 16:15, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

 * I don't see the need. Bridges and tunnels can be classified many ways, including age, continent, type of barrier crossed, materials, size, and traffic carried. The way this article classifies them is by construction method, and each type is used for more than one kind of traffic. There's no more need for a separate narrative about rail tunnels than for one about South American tunnels or road tunnels or stone bridges or 18th century bridges or tunnels between 5 and 10 meters wide. At most, someone might seek mere list articles, broken down in these various ways. Jim.henderson (talk) 13:54, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Multiple tunnels
This source suggests it's becoming cheaper to build multiple thinner tubes rather then one thicker tube. Probably should be added to the article, if more sourcing can be found Nil Einne (talk) 20:16, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Definition

 * Some civic planners define a tunnel as 0.1 miles (0.16 kilometers) in length or longer, while anything shorter than this should be called a chute.

This isn't sourced and it isn't clear how wide spread this definition is. Given that the definition is rather adhoc in any case, it seems more likely to me that someone in a country where metric predominates would use some like 150 metres or 200 metres rather then 160. Nil Einne (talk) 20:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Is a tunnel a bridge?
I don't mind any WikiProject taking an interest in any article however tenuous the relation between the project and the subject matter at hand. So for WikiProject Bridges to adopt this article I have no objection. It's a little odd, that's all. However, for the article itself to be categorized into Category:Bridges I am concerned, and all the more so since there is not one word in the article which discusses this. If there is a tradition among architects and transportation planners to define a tunnel as a bridge, then that must be detailed and documented. If not, the category should not include this article.

I became aware of this situation as I was attempting to see if a tunnel could be categorized by year of opening. If the above connection can be made, perhaps it would be prudent to rename the Category:Bridges by date to Category:Bridges and tunnels by date? __meco (talk)

 * I only tagged it because of the categorization. I will note, however, that there is no firm line between the two; a cut-and-cover tunnel, for instance, can be considered a bridge, as can a tunnel through a huge railroad fill. --NE2 15:47, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

 * A good many tunnels have a Bridge WikiProject, including this one. I support that choice. --Dthomsen8 (talk) 01:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Non-human tunnels?
What about tunnels made by other creatures such as spiders, rabbits, moles etc? This seems solely dedicated to human-engineered tunnels. --Irrevenant [ talk ] 12:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

 * Do you have any examples of articles about such tunnels? __meco (talk) 08:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed from list
Moved these here because I fail to see how they're notable. Probably should have deleted them outright but I'm not logged in. 67.9.175.207 (talk) 20:01, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

 * The Sydney Harbour Tunnel in Sydney, Australia was built in 1992 to augment the Sydney Harbour Bridge.
 * The Clyde Tunnel in Glasgow, Scotland, connects the districts of Whiteinch and Govan in the west of the city.

Should be removed from list
The Cobble Hill and Murray Hill Tunnels are not of note now the Liverpool tunnels have been added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.65.126.148 (talk) 03:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Removed from list
The Cobble Hill and Murray Hill Tunnels removed from the list as historically not important now the Liverpool and Shildon tunnels have been added. Waterspaces (talk) 09:43, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

types of tunnels & construction method
The types is important and distinction should be made. A water tunnel is different to a canal tunnel which is different to a rail tunnel which is different to a road tunnel, which requires large fans to operate properly.

Then a distinction should be made if the tunnel runs under water and the construction of generally different to above water tunnel.

Then the construction method, which is different in many tunnels.

Then there is the first, oldest, oldest still used, longest, pioneering, etc, of each type.

It is all relevant, they are all are worthy of note. Rail tunnels I find important as the railways shrunk the world.

Waterspaces (talk) 10:04, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

It Is Time
I think that it is time to start a WikiProject Tunnels. I don't think that they are bridges, either! Does anyone agree with me, and want to join me? Go to:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Tunnels Pustelnik (talk) 22:28, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Costs
A proposed 1800m long double track tunnel in the Slovakia is set to cost €52.8m (SEK540m) or $77.18.

If someone has information about the approximate costs associated with each construction method, that would make an excellent addition to the article. (That's what I was after when I came here, actually.) 217.158.111.130 (talk) 10:34, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

 * Agreed, however with little background in economics so I could do little to contribute. As an aside, there are several cost figures mentioned in Japan-Korea Undersea Tunnel which may be helpful to others doing that section.  HarryZilber (talk) 20:53, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

The economics of tunnel projects is very complex and numbers shouldn't really be quoted on this page becasue they would probably be read out of context. There should probably be a new page created dealining with tunnel costs and economics so that it can be dealt with propoerly. Splash6 11:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Splash6 (talk • contribs)

Deleted photo
I have a few time uploaded a photos of the world's oldest used rail tunnel. It kept getting deleted for no apparent reason.Liverpool-8-boy (talk) 22:21, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

need better pictures
The lead picture "Underground tunnel for heatpipes between Rigshospitalet and Amagerværket in Denmark" is a bad choice: dazzlingly psychedelic/symmetrical, unfamiliar visual material, not a good way to convey a concept to a reader the actually needs to learn what "tunnel" refers to.

The picture "A short section remains of the 1836 Edge Hill to Lime Street tunnel in Liverpool. This is the oldest used rail tunnel in the world. A tilting train passes through the tunnel." is bad and should be removed; contrary to the caption, this is picture of an open above-ground station, not a tunnel.

Some of the other pictures currently in the article are OK, but none of them are good introductions to the basic general concept.-96.237.79.6 (talk) 12:09, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Hazards
I propose that either Tunnel fire be merged into the Hazards section, or that Tunnel fire should be expanded. --ZhongHan (Email) 08:02, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Tunnel fire should be an own article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.253.99.254 (talk) 13:32, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Yet another attempt at jumpstarting WikiProject Tunnels
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bridges. __meco (talk) 09:13, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

French tunnel betwen France and Spain
The Somport tunnel is a tunnel in the Pyrénées, 8.6 Km, and he doesn't have a english version. It will be good create a article about this. The french article is here.

France64160 (talk) 21:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Drainage?
If nothing were done about drainage, a tunnel would slowly fill up with water. What are the most common solutions? Pumping? Are any fully passive mechanisms to prevent tunnel flooding in use or even possible? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.90.173 (talk) 07:28, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Move new content to Secret passage article?
Significant content has recently been added to Tunnel, mostly regarding historical smuggling tunnels in New England. The material needs copyediting and improved references, but I'm also concerned that this coverage is too detailed for a survey article that is already quite long. I think that this material would be better placed in the Secret passage article. Any comments? Reify-tech (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
 * FYI, the deleted material was moved to the Smuggling tunnel article, which seems more appropriate. I did some copyedit cleanup, but more is needed there.  Reify-tech (talk) 04:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

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Image of older, wooden rail tunnel from California ca 1870s
Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:21, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Tunnel construction
A fork article about tunnel construction had been created using contents from the main Tunnel article. In User_talk:ThurnerRupert, the creator suggested tunnel construction could be expanded. I'd like to bring this to the interested parties about this article for discussion and views on action. For now, I have redirected the newly created duplicate article to the corresponding section in the main article. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 09:55, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe that tunnel construction is a vast enough subject which deserves its own article. A WP:SPLIT from Tunnel is a good start, then construction techniques can be briefly described in the main article per WP:SUMMARY. — JFG talk 10:05, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * agreed, I have reinstated the tunnel construction fork. The main article will need editing to shorten the section in order to resolve the duplication as per WP:SUMMARY and WP:SPLIT. I noticed that there are 3 main types mentioned in the intro to that section, but then the article goes on to summarise many more. I'm not an expert in the field, so didn't want to arbitrarily delete and move stuff around. Any thoughts? pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 13:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * The section on tunnel construction is sizable enough to justify a separate article, especially if it will be expanded. However, thought needs to be given to the split, along with careful editing to prevent unhelpful duplication of coverage.  Reify-tech (talk) 15:04, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Not an expert either, but I'm sure some specialists will show up to write a better summary if we start with a crude one. — JFG talk 15:23, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

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Move
On en-wiki, shouldn't this article be listed under the English Fauvism rather than the French Les Fauves. -- Solipsist 19:15, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Now moved, with help from User:Angela -- Solipsist 12:34, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Never a fauvist painter ever again?
"Since those great masters, no artist in the world has been known to use Fauvism."

I think its a bit much to say that, I've seen fauvist pantings painted recently. --Syr0 10:18, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It's a really crazy statement, particularly since there was a revival of the movement in the 60s. Gingermint (talk) 22:04, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

They made a stupid mistake
They put in the wrong type of picture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this was very annoying because i got an E5 because i listened to this page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.77.59.64 (talk) 11:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC).

also, they misspelt colour!

 * -Color can be spelled both ways...look it up.

Also Fauvism is alive today.

hi, I'm a brazilian painter, my name is Emerson Morais and I not agree with wiki, cause I've been seen recently in a class of our School of Fine Arts (Escola de Belas Artes) in Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (EBA-UFRJ), a painting in a style of fauvs, and, inspired for all these wonderful paintings, I'm decided to produce a watercolor inside the fauvs principles. So, the fauvism movement live inside all sensible artists, in idea or action, in their minds and hearts! fauvs forever! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.19.76.110 (talk) 23:09, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

I think this article could still (2010) use a nice re-write. Also, I'm not entirely happy with the picture used to represent the style. And yeah, it is absolutely Okay to spell colour "color." Generally people who talk funny (like me and my mum) spell it colour. Gingermint (talk) 22:08, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

[snip]
[snip - previous spoutings removed] My work and knowledge in this area is very incomplete and I have decided to withdraw my previous comment. - I understand the difficulty of finding authors who have deep knowledge on obscure subjects. Like many histories, it is often difficult to present a complete rounded argument and avoid a rather one sided picture. Anyway what I wrote before - probably rubbish. December 2007, Lucien86 (talk) 09:45, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

 * Kindly stop this nonsense. Tyrenius (talk) 04:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Spelling
There are some recent back-and-forth edits about spelling. There was even a commented note added at the beginning: "DO NOT CHANGE SPELLING FROM UK TO US. 'COLOUR' IS CORRECT. SEE WP:ENGVAR." I come to the article to find a mix of AE and BE spellings, beginning with the first sentence ("emphasized" and "colour").

Per the cited guideline, where (as here) the subject has no particular tie to any one English-speaking country, we achieve consistency by defaulting to the first variant used. Here, the first version of the article used AE spelling ("This brief, shining moment of in early Modernism emphasized paint itself and the use of deep color...."). Accordingly, I'm removing the commented noted and making the spelling consistent at AE throughout. Per the MoS, however, there's an exception for the quotation; it's presumably a translation from French, but the person giving the translation was English and the transcript was done for an Australian source, so our source uses "colour" and I've left that in place. JamesMLane t c 09:25, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

For Coldcreation
Nadežda Petrović died of typhus and cholera in 1915 serving as a nurse in Serbian military hospital. She had not been influenced by Fauvism, because she had studied in Munich and had traveled to Paris only once, in 1910, to visit her friend Ivan Meštrović. By her style, she was the fauvist before les Fauves themselves. i.e. Salon d'Automne 1905. If the article is about a group of Parisiene artists called les Fauves, than it should not be titled Fauvism, but The Fauvists or Fauvism, the Movement. If it is considered a style, than there were more painters in Europe that belonged to it besides the proclaimed artists in Paris. Slobodan Grasic

 * This article is about Fauvism, the art movement. Just as the article about Cubism is about the movement. Or, just as the article Impressionism is about the movement. (And so on...). Certainly, many art movements inspire a wide range of artists from a wide range of countries. Not all can, or should, be included in these articles. Also, many artists used relatively pure colors preceding the Fauve movement, such as Paul Gauguin or Vincent van Gogh, but that does not make them Fauve painters, nor does it mean their works were Fauve. Compared with the other movements mentioned above, Fauvism was short-lived and exceedingly restricted geographically. For these reasons the appellation "Fauve" has been historically restricted to a small number of artists. In the relevant literature, Nadežda Petrović is considered more inspired by expressionism than fauvism. Coldcreation (talk) 14:21, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

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Expressionism
What is the movement's relationship to Expressionism? My untrained eye sees some similarities. -- Pete Best Beatles (talk) 04:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

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Promises, Promises (musical)

Promises, Promises is a musical with music by Burt Bacharach, lyrics by Hal David and a book by Neil Simon. It is based on the 1960 film The Apartment, written by Billy Wilder and I. A. L. Diamond. The story concerns a junior executive at an insurance company who seeks to climb the corporate ladder by allowing his apartment to be used by his married superiors for trysts.

The musical premiered in 1968 on Broadway with choreography by Michael Bennett and direction by Robert Moore. It starred Jerry Orbach as Chuck Baxter and Jill O'Hara as Fran Kubelik. It closed after 1,281 performances. A West End production opened in 1969 featuring Tony Roberts and Betty Buckley. The cast album was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Musical Theater Album, and two songs from the show (the title tune and "I'll Never Fall in Love Again") became hit singles for Dionne Warwick.

Broadway (1968–1972)
After a tryout at the National Theatre in Washington, D.C., and the Colonial Theatre in Boston, MA. the show premiered on Broadway at the Shubert Theatre on December 1, 1968, and closed on January 1, 1972, after 1,281 performances. Directed by Robert Moore, and choreographed by Michael Bennett with Bob Avian as assistant choreographer, the cast featured Jerry Orbach as Chuck Baxter, Jill O'Hara as Fran Kubelik, and Edward Winter as J. D. Sheldrake. Featured in small or ensemble roles were Kelly Bishop, Graciela Daniele, Ken Howard, Baayork Lee, Donna McKechnie, Frank Pietri, Margo Sappington, and Marian Mercer. A national tour starring Tony Roberts from the West End production as Chuck Baxter, Melissa Hart as Fran, and Bob Holiday as Sheldrake performed throughout the United States during the early 1970s. Lorna Luft played Fran Kubelik on Broadway from October 1971 to January 1972. A second national tour starred Will McKenzie as Chuck Baxter; featured ensemble players included Trudi Green, Laurent Giroux, Guy Allen, Dennis Grimaldi, Brandt Edwards, and Patti McKenzie. Another tour starred Donald O'Connor as Chuck Baxter, Betty Buckley as Fran Kubelik, and Barney Martin as Dr. Dreyfuss; featured ensemble players included Laurent Giroux, Carla Lewis, and Dennis Grimaldi.

The show's now-iconic first act closing dance number, "Turkey Lurkey Time", underwent significant changes from its initial debut. According to McKechnie, who portrayed Miss Della Hoya, the original choreography was staged on three desks pushed together, and was meant to reflect what the three secretaries might realistically have choreographed in their living rooms. During the first night of the show's Boston tryouts, the number was extremely poorly received by the audience. Bennet and Avian immediately reworked the choreography that same night in their hotel room, changing it from its initial realistic approach into its subsequent, high-energy form. The number has been described as a cult classic, and is one McKechnie described in her 2006 memoir as "incredibly athletic" and designed to secure the audience's return after the intermission, despite the number having little to do with the musical's overall plot.

West End (1969)
The show was first produced in London's West End at the Prince of Wales Theatre in 1969, featuring Tony Roberts and Betty Buckley. It ran for 560 performances.

Broadway revival (2010–2011)
A reading for a revival of the musical was held in October 2008 with Sean Hayes and Anne Hathaway.

The revival opened at the Broadway Theatre on April 25, 2010, after previews starting on March 27. Directed and choreographed by Rob Ashford, the revival starred Sean Hayes, Kristin Chenoweth, Brooks Ashmanskas, Katie Finneran, and Tony Goldwyn. The Bacharach-David songs "I Say a Little Prayer", a 1967 million-selling hit written for Dionne Warwick, and "A House Is Not a Home" were added to the score.

Due to pregnancy, Katie Finneran departed the role of Marge on October 10, 2010, and was replaced by Saturday Night Live veteran Molly Shannon. Hayes, Chenoweth, and Shannon remained with the production until its closing on January 2, 2011. The show had 291 performances and 30 previews.

Other productions
Regional theatre productions have included a 1993 staging at the Goodspeed Opera House in Connecticut. New York City Center Encores! held a staged concert in March 1997, starring Martin Short, Kerry O'Malley, Eugene Levy, Dick Latessa, and Christine Baranski.

The musical opened at San Francisco Playhouse in November 2014 and closed in January 2015. It featured Jeffrey Brian Adams in the role of Chuck and Monique Hafen as Fran.
 * 2014 San Francisco

This production ran from January to February, directed by Bronagh Lagan with Gabriel Vick in the role of Chuck and Daisy Maywood as Fran.
 * 2017 Southwark Playhouse, London

Act I
Chuck Baxter is an ambitious bachelor and junior executive for a large insurance company, Consolidated Life, who expresses his frustrations and hopes for career advancement ("Half as Big as Life"). To curry favor with higher-ups in the company, he allows his apartment to be used for their romantic trysts in return for promises of promotion ("Upstairs"). Chuck has his own eye set on Fran Kubelik, a waitress in the company cafeteria whom he's always admired from a distance. While talking together she wonders if she will ever find someone to share her life with. Chuck hopes that she might notice him ("You'll Think of Someone").

J.D. Sheldrake, the company's powerful personnel director, notices the glowing reviews written by Chuck's superiors and deduces the reason for them. He requests sole use of the apartment for his affairs in exchange for Chuck's long-awaited promotion and tickets to a basketball game ("Our Little Secret"). (In the 2010 revival, the song "I Say a Little Prayer For You" was added for a scene in which Fran tells female workmates about flowers she has received from a new "mystery individual".) Chuck asks Fran to attend the basketball game with him, and she agrees to meet him there after first having a drink with her soon-to-be ex-lover ("She Likes Basketball").

Fran's lover turns out to be the married Sheldrake. Fran wants to end the relationship, but Sheldrake talks her into spending the evening with him ("Knowing When to Leave"). Though Fran stands him up, Chuck forgives her. When he informs the other executives that his apartment is no longer available for their use, they express dismay ("Where Can You Take a Girl?"). Meanwhile, Sheldrake wonders why he is drawn to affairs ("Wanting Things"). The scene shifts to the company Christmas party, where everyone is enjoying themselves ("Turkey Lurkey Time"). Miss Olsen, Sheldrake's secretary, reveals to Fran that she is simply the latest in a long line of Sheldrake's mistresses. The first-act curtain falls as Fran is driven to misery ("A House is Not a Home" in the 2010 revival), and Chuck discovers that Fran is the one Sheldrake has been taking to his apartment.

Act II
A despondent Chuck spends Christmas Eve trying to drink away his troubles at a bar, where he meets another tipsy lonelyheart, Marge MacDougall, who agrees to come back to his apartment ("A Fact Can Be a Beautiful Thing"). In the meantime, at Chuck's apartment, Fran confronts Mr. Sheldrake about his earlier affairs. While he admits to the affairs, he declares his love for Fran, but tells her that he must leave in order to catch his train home to spend Christmas Eve with his family. A despairing Fran discovers Chuck's sleeping pills and takes the whole bottle ("Whoever You Are").

When Chuck arrives with Marge, he discovers Fran on his bed. After quickly disposing of Marge, a frantic Chuck gets his neighbor, Dr. Dreyfuss, to come over and together they save her life. The next morning Chuck calls Sheldrake to let him know what happened. Sheldrake says he can't leave for the city without his wife knowing and asks Chuck to take care of Fran ("Christmas Day").

Over the next few days Chuck and Dreyfuss try to keep Fran's spirits up to prevent a relapse into suicidal behavior ("A Young Pretty Girl Like You"). Chuck and Fran play gin rummy and discuss their problems, growing closer ("I'll Never Fall In Love Again"). Mr. Kirkeby, one of Chuck's former 'clients', discovers that Fran has been staying at Chuck's apartment, so as revenge for cutting him and the others off from using the apartment he tells Fran's overly protective brother where she has been staying. Karl Kubelik then comes to the apartment to collect her, and believing that Chuck is the cause of her current state he punches Chuck.

Miss Olsen soon discovers that Sheldrake's actions led to Fran almost killing herself. She quits her job and tells Mrs. Sheldrake all about her husband's affairs. She leaves him, resulting in his desperation to woo Fran back. Sheldrake asks for the keys to Chuck's apartment again on New Year's Eve to take Fran there. Chuck refuses and quits his job rather than allow Sheldrake to take Fran to his apartment ever again ("Promises, Promises").

Deciding that he has to get away, Chuck begins packing to move elsewhere when Fran comes to see him. Sheldrake had told her that Chuck had refused him access and quit, and she realizes that Chuck is the one who really loves her. As they resume their earlier game of gin, he declares his love for her, to which she replies, "Shut up and deal".

Characters

 * Chuck Baxter – An office worker
 * Fran Kubelik – A restaurant waitress
 * J.D. Sheldrake – A personnel manager
 * Dr. Dreyfuss – A neighbor
 * Marge MacDougall – A bar acquaintance
 * Dobitch, Kirkeby, Eichelberger, and Vanderhof
 * Vivien Della Hoya, Miss Polansky, and Miss Ginger Wong
 * Karl – Fran's brother
 * Mrs. Sheldrake
 * Miss Olsen

Musical numbers

 * Act One
 * "Overture" – Orchestra
 * "Half as Big as Life" – Chuck
 * "Grapes of Roth" – Orchestra
 * "Upstairs" – Chuck
 * "You'll Think of Someone" – Chuck & Fran
 * "Our Little Secret" – Chuck & Sheldrake
 * "I Say a Little Prayer" + – Fran
 * "She Likes Basketball" – Chuck
 * "Knowing When to Leave" – Fran
 * "Where Can You Take a Girl?" – Dobitch, Kirkeby, Eichelberger, & Vanderhof
 * "Wanting Things" – Sheldrake
 * "Turkey Lurkey Time" – Miss Della Hoya, Miss Polansky, Miss Wong, & Ensemble
 * "A House Is Not a Home" + – Fran

 * Act Two
 * "A Fact Can Be a Beautiful Thing" – Marge & Chuck
 * "Whoever You Are (I Love You)" – Fran
 * "Christmas Day" – Orchestra
 * "A House Is Not A Home (reprise)" + – Chuck
 * "A Young Pretty Girl Like You" – Dr. Dreyfuss & Chuck
 * "I'll Never Fall in Love Again" – Chuck & Fran
 * "Promises, Promises" – Chuck
 * "I'll Never Fall In Love Again (reprise)" + – Chuck & Fran

+ Added for the 2010 revival

Songs cut in the out-of-town tryouts included: "Tick Tock Goes The Clock," "We Did The Right Thing," "Loyal, Resourceful And Cooperative," "Wouldn't That Be A Stroke Of Luck," "Hot Food," "What Am I Doing Here?"

Songs written for the show but not used included: "Let's Pretend We're Grown Up," "Phone Calls," "In The Right Kind Of Light."

Reception
From The New York Times: "Though the work featured memorable dance sequences by a choreographer on the rise named Michael Bennett, what really set it apart was its score, written by the solid-gold pop composer Burt Bacharach with lyrics by Hal David. Mr. Bacharach introduced to Broadway not only the insistently rhythmic, commercial-jingle buoyancy of 1960's soft-core radio fare, but also a cinematic use of Teflon-smooth, offstage backup vocals."

In popular culture
The title song, "Whoever You Are (I Love You)" and "Wanting Things" were all featured on Dionne Warwick's Scepter LP Promises, Promises which was released in 1968 before the show opened on Broadway. "I'll Never Fall in Love Again" was a hit for Dionne Warwick in the US (No. 6) and for Bobbie Gentry in the UK (No. 1). "Christmas Day" was recorded by Johnny Mathis for his Christmas album Give Me Your Love for Christmas (1969). The title song and "Turkey Lurkey Time" were featured on Glee and the latter performed in Camp.

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