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Die by the Sword

Die by the Sword is a swordfighting action-adventure video game developed by Treyarch and published by Interplay Productions under their Tantrum Entertainment imprint on March 27, 1998. The game allows players to independently command the movement and swordfighting of their in-game avatars; running, jumping and turning with one hand, while simultaneously slashing, stabbing and parrying with the other. Die by the Sword also offered deathmatch and cooperative multiplayer play in its arena mode, where players could stage fights with up to three other players.

The expansion pack Limb from Limb was released on September 28, 1998 and added another main quest for the single-player campaign, enhanced multiplayer through a selection of significantly more creative arenas, and introduced new playable characters such as the Minotaur. A spiritual successor to Die by the Sword was released in 2000 exclusively for the Dreamcast, entitled Draconus: Cult of the Wyrm.

Gameplay
The game allows the player to fully control their sword arm, removing the need for pre-recorded animations and statistically based gameplay. Instead, a physically correct model is used for each avatar and each weapon, and both movement and damage are calculated through forces.

The sword arm can be controlled by using a joystick, the numeric keypad, or a mouse. For example, with the keyboard, to perform a slashing attack with the default key combination, a player would press the '4' and '6' keys on the numeric keypad in succession. This will move the weapon from extreme left to right. The '8'-'2' combination will likewise perform a top-down striking motion. Blocking is accomplished similarly, not through a separate key or state like in all other games of this genre, but instead through the simple physical principle of positioning the weapon so that it intercepts, and blocks, the enemy's weapon. Shields operate like swords in this respect, though it is generally not possible to directly control the off-hand.

Alternatively, a player may opt to directly control his sword arm with mouse movements or a joystick to gain more subtle control. This allows a player to fluidly move his weapon in any direction instead of being limited to the eight points of a keypad. However characters featuring a weapon for either arm can only be properly controlled by keypad or by using predefined moves, due to their unorthodox movements.

A third and simpler method to using the mouse or keypad (as the mouse control can be awkward, and some laptops don't have keypads) is the game's "arcade mode", which uses the Y, U, and I keys to block low, medium, and high, respectively, and H, J, and K keys to chop, slash medium, and slash high, respectively. Turning, jumping, and other acrobatics can be used in tandem with sword control to add velocity to the weapon, increasing its damage potential significantly.

The player can target and eliminate specific body parts. A well-placed swing to the head can in some cases behead an opponent. Strong blows to the arms and legs can sever limbs, leaving the opponent with reduced mobility, or in the case of the sword arm, no way to inflict damage. This system encourages multiple hits to a specific region on the body, thereby slowly cutting the opponent, and reducing his effectiveness. Delicate locations such as the head and neck, while difficult to strike, offer a quick conclusion to those with the appropriate finesse.

In the expansion, Limb from Limb, the player can choose to play the original quest as an Orc, Skeleton, Mantis, and other monsters.

The Arena
The Arena mode in Die by the Sword consists of as many as four players or AI bots fighting in an enclosed arena. With the Limb From Limb expansion installed, there are a total of nine Arena 'Pits'.

Tournament Mode
Tournament mode allows the player to choose one of nine different fighters, and work up through different arenas with different combinations of other creatures. It ends with a final boss fight.

Development
Project lead Peter Akemann cited The Bilestoad as a major inspiration for Die by the Sword. Instead of motion capture, the dominant animation technique of the time, Die by the Sword's animations were built with a physics engine that Akemann created over five years of post-graduate and doctoral work. This approach eliminated the need to use pre-recorded animations, thus enabling the player's free-form control over the character's sword swings.

Reception
The game received mildly favorable reviews, while Limb from Limb received mixed reviews. Next Generation said that the game "should not be missed by anyone seeking immaculately done fantasy action. Recommended."

The game was a commercial failure, with sales of 28,603 units in the U.S. by April 1999. Interplay's Alan Pavlish attributed the failure to the game's control scheme and "a dark period when it slipped nine months, so it lost momentum."

Die by the Sword was named as a finalist for "PC Action Game of the Year" during the Academy of Interactive Arts & Sciences' inaugural Interactive Achievement Awards; the award ultimately went to Quake II.

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Talk:Tamil Eelam

Ethnicity and Religion of "Tamil Eelam"

@Oz346 I have uploaded images of my calculations here. As you said, it is true that Puttalam is not a part of "Tamil Eelam". This has been extensively discussed and also proved here with sources. But for some reason, no change to the map has been done in the wikipedia article of "Tamil Eelam". Hence, I have calculated the religion and ethnicity of "Tamil Eelam" including Puttalam as according to this wikipedia article, Puttalam is a part of "Tamil Eelam". JohnWiki159 (talk) 15:20, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

 * Thanks, i've added a note to the box mentioning the controversy as per that previous discussion.Oz346 (talk) 16:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

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Red Line

Red Line may refer to:

Films

 * Red Line (1959 film), a Finnish film based on the 1909 novel
 * Red Line (1996 film), an American crime drama film
 * Red Line (2012 film), an American terrorist thriller film
 * Red Line, a 2023 Taiwanese action romantic film starring Ella Chen and Alan Ko
 * The Red Line, a 1982 Iranian film directed by Masoud Kimiai

Music

 * Red Line (album), by Trans Am, 2000
 * "Red Line", by 5 Seconds Of Sunmer song from 5SOS5
 * Red Line (For TA)", a 2009 song by Ayumi Hamasaki, a B-side of "You Were..."
 * The Red Line, a 1978 opera by Aulis Sallinen based on the 1909 novel

Other media

 * The Red Line (TV series), a 2019 American drama series
 * The Red Line, a 1909 Finnish novel by Ilmari Kianto on which a film and opera are based

Asia

 * SRT Dark Red Line, Bangkok, Thailand
 * Red Line (Chennai Metro), in Chennai, India
 * Red Line (Delhi Metro), India
 * Red Line (Doha Metro), Qatar
 * Red Line (Dubai Metro), United Arab Emirates
 * Red Line (Hyderabad Metro), India
 * Red line (Kaohsiung MRT), Taiwan
 * Red Line (Lucknow Metro), India
 * Red Line (Namma Metro), Bangalore, India
 * Bogor Line of KA Commuter line Jakarta Kota–Bogor, KRL Commuterline, Jakarta, Indonesia
 * SRT Light Red Line, Bangkok, Thailand
 * Line 1 (Beijing Subway), China
 * Line 1 (Shanghai Metro), China
 * Midōsuji Line, Osaka, Japan
 * North South MRT line, Singapore
 * SRT Red Lines, Bangkok, Thailand
 * Tamsui–Xinyi line, Taipei, Taiwan
 * Tokyo Metro Marunouchi Line, Tokyo, Japan
 * Tsuen Wan line, Hong Kong
 * Line 1 (Daegu Metro), South Korea
 * Shinbundang Line, Seoul, South Korea
 * Red Line (Jerusalem Light Rail), Jerusalem, Israel
 * Red Line (Tel Aviv Light Rail), Tel Aviv, Israel

Europe

 * Red Line (Luas), Dublin, Ireland
 * Red Line (Stockholm Metro), Sweden
 * Line 2 (Athens Metro), Greece
 * Aŭtazavodskaja line, Minsk, Belarus
 * Barcelona Metro line 1, Spain
 * Central line (London Underground), England
 * Leninskaya Line, Novosibirsk, Russia
 * Line 1 (Kharkiv Metro) aka Kholodnohirsko–Zavodska line, Ukraine
 * Line 1 (Saint Petersburg Metro), Russia
 * Line 2 (Madrid Metro), Spain
 * Line C (Prague Metro), Czech Republic
 * Lyon Metro Line A, Lyon, France
 * Milan Metro Line 1, Italy
 * RER A, Paris, France
 * Sviatoshynsko–Brovarska line, Kyiv, Ukraine
 * Sokolnicheskaya line, Moscow, Russia
 * Tyne and Wear Metro of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK (former line)
 * Red Line (Lisbon Metro), Portugal
 * U2 (Berlin U-Bahn), Germany

North America

 * Red Line (Baltimore), Maryland Transit Administration, Maryland (Proposed)
 * Red Line (Calgary), Alberta, Canada
 * Red Line (CTA), Chicago, Illinois
 * Red Line (Dallas Area Rapid Transit), Texas
 * Red Line (IndyGo), Indianapolis Public Transportation Corporation, Indianapolis, Indiana
 * Red Line (MARTA) (formerly North-South Line), Atlanta, Georgia
 * Red Line (Mexico City Metro), Mexico
 * Red Line (Mexico City Metrobús), Mexico
 * Red Line (MBTA), Boston, Massachusetts
 * Red Line (Pittsburgh), Port Authority, Pennsylvania
 * Red Line (RTA Rapid Transit), Greater Cleveland Regional Transit Authority, Ohio
 * Red Line (Sound Transit), Seattle, Washington
 * Red Line (St. Louis MetroLink), Bi-State Development Agency, Missouri
 * Red Line (TRAX), Utah Transit Authority, Salt Lake City area
 * Red Line (Washington Metro), WMATA, Washington, D.C.
 * Red Line (The Vine), a bus rapid transit line in Vancouver, Washington
 * Baltimore Light RailLink for Penn Station – Camden Yards Line aka Red Line, Maryland Transit Administration, Baltimore, Maryland
 * B Line (Los Angeles Metro), California, until 2020 formerly named the "Red Line"
 * Capital MetroRail, Austin, Texas
 * F Line (RTD), aka Red Line, Regional Transportation District, Denver, Colorado
 * IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line in New York City, colored red, serving the 1, 2, and 3 trains
 * Line 1 of the Guadalajara urban rail system, Guadalajara, Mexico
 * Lynx Red Line, North Carolina
 * MAX Red Line, Tri-Met, Portland, Oregon
 * Metro Red Line (Minnesota), METRO/Minnesota Valley Transit Authority, suburban Minneapolis, Minnesota area
 * METRORail Red Line, Houston, Texas
 * PATCO Speedline, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
 * Rapid Ride Route 766 Red Line, ABQ RIDE, Albuquerque, New Mexico
 * Red Line (BART), Bay Area Rapid Transit, San Francisco Bay Area, California
 * T Third Street, MUNI, San Francisco, California
 * Valley Metro Rail, aka METRO Light Rail Red Line, Phoenix, Arizona
 * Red Line (Montreal Metro), Canada (proposed)

South America

 * Line 3 (São Paulo Metro), São Paulo, Brazil
 * Red Line (Rio de Janeiro), Brazil, an expressway

Other uses

 * Red line (phrase), a figurative phrase used in English and Hebrew meaning a limit past which something shouldn't cross safely
 * Red lines in the Russo-Ukrainian War
 * Red line (hockey), the center of the playing surface on an ice hockey rink
 * Red Line (Namibia), a pest-exclusion fence separating Northern Namibia from the central and southern parts
 * Red Line, the military line of defense in Operation Manta, along the 15th and later 16th parallel north, of the Chadian-Libyan Conflict
 * All Red Line, a network of telegraph cables linking the British Empire
 * Red Line Agreement, an agreement signed by partners in the Turkish Petroleum Company in 1928
 * Red Line Synthetic Oil Corporation, an oil manufacturer for automotive and other performance applications
 * Red Line, Iowa, an unincorporated community
 * Operation Red Line, a planned Indian military operation

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Rainham railway station

Rainham railway station may refer to the following stations in England:

 * Rainham railway station (London), also known as Rainham (Essex), on the London, Tilbury and Southend Railway line
 * Rainham railway station (Kent), on the Chatham Main Line

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Peredurus

Peredurus (Peredur) is a legendary king of the Britons in Geoffrey of Monmouth's pseudohistorical chronicle Historia Regum Britanniae. According to Geoffrey, he was the youngest son of King Morvidus and brother of Gorbonianus, Archgallo, Elidurus, and Ingenius. He came to power in 317BC.

Following the return of Elidurus to the kingship of Britain, Peredurus joined with his brother Ingenius and attacked their older brother. They succeeded in capturing him and locked him in a guarded tower in Trinovantum. Instead of fighting over who ruled the island, they split the island giving Cornwall to Ingenius and Albany to Peredurus. He ruled his portion of the island for seven years then Ingenius died and he was awarded with the entire kingdom. He ruled moderately and was considered better than his brothers before him. Few remembered Elidurus locked in the tower until death finally took Peredurus. Elidurus returned once more as king following Peredurus's death. His son Runo later became king of Britain.

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Paul Glover (activist)

Paul Glover (born July 18, 1947) is a community organizer, author, and former university professor currently based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

Community work
Glover published local histories of Ithaca starting in the 1970s with Glad Day Press. In 1992, he founded the Ithaca Hours, one of the first local currency systems. He said he founded it because there wasn't enough money in the local community.

He founded of the Philadelphia Orchard Project, the Citizen Planners of Los Angeles and the Ithaca Health Alliance, He is author of several books on community economic development, a former professor of urban studies at Temple University, and Ecological economics at Philadelphia University.

He consults as Greenplanners and speaks on community economic development.

Glover suffered a stroke in January 2019.

Political career
Glover was the Green Party candidate for mayor of Ithaca, New York, in 2003.

Glover participated in the Green Party's presidential primaries in 2004.

Glover was the Green Party candidate for governor of Pennsylvania in 2014 and 2018.

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Ottawa Jazz Festival

The Ottawa Jazz Festival held in Ottawa, Canada has been a trailblazer in the music festival scene for more than 40 years. It showcases a wide range of jazz genres, including swing, jive, fusion jazz, hot jazz, boogie as well as diverse cultures and traditions. It is the only outdoor music festival in the city's downtown core. The festival highlights "a wide range of Canadian and international musical greats to Canada's capital." Additionally, it features new and emerging talent covering a spectrum from pop and rock to lush harmonies. While jazz is the core focus, the festival also includes music from genres such as such as blues, rock and indie.

Set against the stunning backdrop of Downtown Ottawa, the festival offers a range of ticketed and free shows in various venues, including Confederation Park, Marion Dewar Plaza, the National Arts Centre and select local clubs. In previous years, the event has drawn up to 300,000 visitors and featured over 850 artists and more than 100 concerts.

History
The festival was established in 1980 when local musicians Bob Misener, Tony Pope and Bill Shuttleworth came together to organize a weekend of jazz music in Major's Hill Park. In 1989, the jazz festival relocated to what is now the location of its Main Stage at Confederation Park. In 1996, Catherine O'Grady took over as Executive Producer of the festival. Since her arrival, management has worked alongside the board of directors and a supportive community to achieve a 300% increase in audience attendance.

In 1999, Wynton Marsalis's group, Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra, helped the festival achieve a new attendance record with 8,000 people, which helped put the event on the map.

In 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic forced the cancellation of the festival. In place of the event, a virtual concert series named Tenacity was streamed to both domestic and international audiences. In August 2021, despite many pandemic-related restrictions, the festival returned for a four-day span of live and virtual concerts with over 50 artists performing. Finally, in 2022, the festival made a full in-person return with a nine-day lineup featuring artists like the Punch Brothers, Kamasi Washington, Holly Cole, Cory Wong, Cory Henry, Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra, and more.

Under the direction of Catherine O'Grady, the Ottawa Jazz Festival has served as a key economic driver for Ottawa's downtown core, leading to increased tourism and boost to local businesses each summer. Since 2009, the festival has brought in over $448 million in tourism spending.

Programming
The first several decades of the festival's programming were initially shaped by Jacques Émond, and Petr Cancura took over the role in 2011.

The festival has showcased numerous dynamic jazz artists on its stages, including Aretha Franklin, Herbie Hancock, Buddy Guy, The Roots, Earth, Wind & Fire, Salif Keita, Dave Brubeck, Mavis Staples, Roy Haynes, Toots Thielemans, Branford Marsalis, Béla Fleck, Kenny Werner, Stanley Jordan, Sonny Rollins, Terence Blanchard, Diana Krall, D.D. Jackson, Maynard Ferguson, Kenny Rogers and John Mayall.

Winter Jazz Festival
In an effort to spice up long and dreary winters, the Ottawa Winter Jazz Festival showcases a series of unique concerts and collaborations with consummate jazz artists. These shows aim to foster an environment for creative interactions among jazz artists in the off-season and to satisfy the jazz cravings of music enthusiasts.

In 2023, a two-day festival ran in February and featured performances by artists such as Sarah Neufield, Kenny Barron and Thus Owls.

Unfortunately, the 2024 event is postponed and will return in 2025.

Jazz Youth Summit
Attention music students from a high schools and universities in Ottawa! You have the opportunity to apply for and participate in the Jazz Youth Summit. This program provides intensive training and workshops facilitated by international artists, and offers the chance to perform at the festival. Participants are selected through a pre-recorded audition process and will have the opportunity to work on original material while attending masterclasses by acclaimed visiting international artists. Past clinicians have included Ethan Iverson, John Hollenbeck, Dave Douglas, Maria Schneider, Tim Berne & Aurora Nealand, Joel Frahm, and Michael Winograd to name a few.

Only nine students, ranging in age from 16 to 23, are chosen for this unique adventure. In 2023, the selected students performed on the Main Stage, opening for the legendary Herbie Hancock on closing night.

At the end of their journey, four out of the nine participants were awarded bursaries from Stingray Music and Stingray Radio, based on merit, as determined by the program's Director and the Festival's Programming Director. The bursaries are intended to support the recipients' music education.

==Current Stages ==
 * The Main Stage at Confederation Park
 * The OLG Stage at Marion Dewar Plaza / Ottawa City Hall
 * The Azrieli Studio at the National Arts Centre (Capacity - 300)
 * The Fourth Stage at the National Arts Centre (Capacity - 150)
 * Grill 41 at the Lord Elgin Hotel - Late Night Jamming Series

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Papa Stronsay

Papa Stronsay (Papa Stronsee; Papey Minni) is a small island in Orkney, Scotland, lying north east of Stronsay. It is 74 ha in size, and 13 m above sea level at its highest point. After being largely abandoned, the island was bought at the end of the 20th century by traditionalist Catholic monks of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, who operate a monastery and farm there.

Geography and geology
The geology is middle old red sandstone.

A thin tongue of land curls west from the main part of the island, and then south to form the Point of the Graand (a local word meaning a "sandbar"). The island, in general, is low-lying, reaching a mere 13 m at its highest point.

There is an 8 m light beacon in the north east.

History
The island has the remains of two chapels and has been described as the site of the most northerly early Christian monastery ever found. St Nicholas' chapel dates from the eleventh century, and an eighth-century Pictish monastery may lie under it. The site was in a good state of repair circa 1783, but the structure was completely demolished sometime before 1795 "to provide material for a barn". St Bride's Chapel, located near to what is now the monastery, was of a similar size to St Nicholas's. It was in ruins in 1900 and all surface trace of it had vanished by 1928. Other remains include cairns, a burnt mound, and a number of abandoned crofts.

The island is one of the "Papeys" or "islands of the papar". Joseph Anderson noted that in the Orkneyinga saga "The two Papeys, the great and the little (anciently Papey Meiri and Papey Minni), now Papa Westray and Papa Stronsay, are both mentioned in the Saga. Fordun in his enumeration of the islands, has a 'Papeay tertia' [third Papey], which is not now known."

Earl's Knoll
Earl's Knoll, or Earl's Know is the remains of a chambered cairn constructed in the Neolithic period, likely of the Orkney-Cromarty type, located at the south east overlooking the Golgotha Monastery and the island's Bountifur pier. An excavation of the site took place in 1795 which was described as follows.

"About halfway between these chapels [St Nicholas and St Bride] there is, on a rising ground called the Earl’s-know (sic), the appearance of old ruins and graves, one of which graves, evidently defined by two stones, one at the head, the other at the feet, is eight feet and a half long (2.6 m); this grave was dug up to the deepness of about six feet in the month of July 1792; the stones at the head and feet, which appeared about one foot above the surface, reached to the bottom of the grave. Many human bones of an ordinary size were found, and, moreover, fragments of a human skull, and of a lower jawbone, with the case of teeth, which were perfectly found, and fragments of thigh bones; these were all of an enormous size and afforded a convincing proof that the body buried there had required a grave of the dimensions above specified."

The “two stones” at the head and foot would have been the dividers of the stalls in the original structure rather than grave stones as such.

Death of Earl Rögnvald
The Orkneyinga saga also records that Earl of Orkney Rögnvald Brusason was killed on Papa Stronsay circa 1046: "Earl Rögnvald resided in Kirkiuvág and brought there all necessaries for the winter; he had a great number of men, and entertained them liberally. A little before Christmas, Earl Rognvald went with a numerous following into little Papey to fetch malt, to be brewed for the Christmas brewing. The evening which they stayed in the islands they sat a long time round the fires to warm themselves, and he who had to keep up the fires said that they were running short of fuel. Then the Earl made a slip of the tongue in speaking, and said: 'We shall be old enough old when these fires are burnt out,' but he intended to have said that they would be warm enough; and when he noticed his blunder he said: 'I made a slip of the tongue in speaking just now; I do not remember that I ever did so before, and now I recollect what my foster-father King Olaf said at Sticklastad when I noticed a slip of the tongue which he made - namely, that if it ever so happened that I should make a slip in my speech I should not expect to live long after it. It may be that my kinsman Thorfinn is still alive.' At that moment they heard that the house was surrounded by men. It was Earl Thorfinn and his men. They set the house on fire immediately, and heaped up a large pile before the door. Thorfinn permitted all others to come out except Earl Rögnvald's men, and when most of them had gone out a man came to the door dressed in linen clothes only, and asked Earl Thorfinn to lend a hand to the deacon; this man placed his hands on the wall and sprang over it and over the ring of men, and came down a great way off, and disappeared immediately in the darkness of the night. Earl Thorfinn told his men to go after him, saying: 'There went the Earl, for that is his feat and no other man's.' They went away, and divided into parties to search for him. Thorkel Fostri with some others went along the beach, they heard the barking of a dog among the rocks by the sea. Earl Rögnvald had had his favourite dog with him. Thorkel had the Earl seized, and asked his men to kill him, offering them a reward in money. But no one would do it. So Thorkel Fóstri slew Earl Rögnvald himself, as he knew that one of the two (Earls) must die."

The unknown writer of the Orkneyinga saga wrote that "Everyone agrees that of all the Earls of Orkney he [Rögnvald] was the most popular and gifted, and his death was mourned by many.

Modern era
A fertile island, it became an important centre for the curing of herring in the eighteenth century, but was abandoned in the 1970s.

Present day
In 1999, the island was purchased from farmer Charles Ronald Smith by the monastic community of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer, a traditionalist Catholic religious congregation formerly affiliated with the Society of St. Pius X. In 2008 the congregation, along with most of its members, was received into full communion with the Holy See. Monks at the Golgotha Monastery, which has a working farm, hail from as far afield as Australia, Samoa, South Africa and Poland. The ancient monastic ruins dating back to the 7th and 8th centuries mark Papa Stronsay as a holy island and the intention is to rebuild them.

A replica of the Papa Stronsay cross is positioned at the entrance of Golgotha Monastery. The original, which is believed to date from the medieval period, was found on the island in a graveyard close to St Nicholas’ Chapel around 1850. It was taken to Melsetter House on Hoy and an image of the stone was drawn for the 1856 first volume of Sculptured Stones of Scotland by John Stuart. By 1888 the stone had been lost. Described as a "Greek cross with scroll terminals and rectangular base" the cross is featured on the coat of arms of the monastery.

In 2001 the island had a recorded population of 10 although by 2011 there were no "usual residents" living there as recorded by the census. a dozen monks live there.

Folklore
Earl's Know is traditionally thought to be the final resting place of Sir Patrick Spens. His burial there is related by William Edmonstoune Aytoun (1813–1865), who after his retirement as Sheriff and Lord Admiral of Orkney and Shetland edited a collection of Scottish poetry. In his forward to the ballad about Spens, Aytoun wrote: "It is true that the name of Sir Patrick Spens is not mentioned in history; but I am able to state that tradition has preserved it. In the little island of Papa Stronsay, one of the Orcadian group, lying over against Norway, there is a large grave or tumulus, which has been known to the inhabitants, from time immemorial, as 'The grave of Sir Patrick Spens'. The Scottish ballads were not early current in Orkney, a Scandinavian country; so it is very unlikely that the poem could have originated the name. The people know nothing beyond the traditional appellation of the spot, and they have no legend to tell. Spens is a Scottish, not a Scandinavian name. Is it, then, a forced conjecture, that the shipwreck took place off the iron bound coast of the northern islands, which did not then belong to the Crown of Scotland? 'Half ower to Aberdour' signifies nothing more than that the vessel went down half-way between Norway and the port of embarkation."

According to folklore, some of the Papa Stronsay natives were descended from a female selkie. This was because they had horny skin on their feet and hands, and permanently smelled of fish.

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North Park Theological Seminary

North Park Theological Seminary is a seminary located in the North Park neighborhood of Chicago, Illinois. It is the sole graduate theological school of the Evangelical Covenant Church.

History
In 1891, the school was founded by the Evangelical Covenant Church in Minneapolis. In 1894, the school moved to Chicago.

The seminary shares a campus with North Park University, the denomination's liberal arts college. The seminary's main building, Nyvall Hall, is named after David Nyvall, who was instrumental in the formation of the school and served as professor and president for many years.

Though retaining some of its Swedish roots, North Park Theological Seminary is now a multi-ethnic institution that fully supports women in ministry.

Programs
The institution's academic programs include a Master of Arts (MA) in Christian Ministry, Master of Arts in Theological Studies, Master of Arts in Christian Formation, Master of Divinity (M.Div.), Doctor of Ministry (D.Min.) in Preaching, and various certificate programs.

The seminary is accredited by the Association of Theological Schools.

Notable alumni and faculty

 * Klyne Snodgrass, New Testament scholar and author
 * Timothy Johnson, medical journalist
 * Jon M. Sweeney, writer

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Cove (standing stones)

A cove is a tightly concentrated group of large standing stones found in Neolithic and Bronze Age England. Coves are square or rectangular in plan and seem to have served as small enclosures within other henge, stone circle or avenue features. They consist of three or four orthostats placed together to give the impression of a box. An opening between the stones, oriented south east, is also a feature.

They may have developed from the elaborate facades that fronted Neolithic long barrows, although their original function is unknown.

Examples include:

 * The Longstones in Wiltshire;
 * The cove at Avebury Henge in Wiltshire;
 * The cove at Stanton Drew in Somerset and
 * The cove at Mount Pleasant henge in Dorset

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Abraham Ribicoff

Abraham Alexander Ribicoff (April 9, 1910 – February 22, 1998) was an American Democratic Party politician from the state of Connecticut. He represented Connecticut in the United States House of Representatives and Senate and was the 80th Governor of Connecticut and Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare in President John F. Kennedy's cabinet. He was Connecticut's first and to date only Jewish governor.

Early life
Born in New Britain, Connecticut, to Ashkenazi Jewish immigrants from Poland, Samuel Ribicoff, a factory worker, and Rose Sable Ribicoff, he attended local public schools. Ribicoff's relatively poor parents valued education and insisted that all his earnings from part-time boyhood jobs go toward his future schooling. After high school, he worked for a year at a nearby zipper factory of the G. E. Prentice Company to earn additional funds for college. Ribicoff enrolled at New York University in 1928, then transferred to the University of Chicago after the Prentice Company made him the Chicago office manager. While in Chicago, Ribicoff coped with school and work schedules and was permitted to enter the university's law school before finishing his undergraduate degree. Still a student, he married Ruth Siegel on June 28, 1931; they had two children. Ribicoff served as editor of the University of Chicago Law Review in his third year and received an LLB cum laude in 1933, being admitted to the Connecticut bar the same year. After practicing law in the office of a Hartford lawyer, Ribicoff set up his practice, first in Kensington and later in Hartford.

Early political career
Having become interested in politics, Ribicoff began as a member of the Connecticut House of Representatives, serving in that body from 1938 to 1942. From 1941 to 1943, and again from 1945 to 1947, he was the judge of Hartford Police Court. During his political career, Ribicoff was a protégé of John Moran Bailey, the powerful chairman of the Democratic Party of Connecticut.

U.S. Representative
He was elected as a Democrat to the 81st and 82nd Congresses, serving from 1949 to 1953. During that time, he served on the Foreign Affairs Committee, a position usually reserved for members with more seniority, and was a mostly loyal supporter of the foreign and domestic policies of President Harry S. Truman's administration. Generally liberal in his outlook, he surprised many by opposing a $32 million appropriation for the construction of a dam in Enfield, Connecticut, arguing that the money was better spent on military needs and foreign policy initiatives such as the Marshall Plan.

In 1952, he made an unsuccessful bid for election to fill a vacancy in the United States Senate, losing to Prescott Bush.

Governor of Connecticut
After returning to his legal practice for two years, he ran for governor against incumbent Republican John Davis Lodge, winning the election with 49.5% and by just over three thousand votes. As governor (1955–1961), Ribicoff soon faced the challenge of rebuilding his state in the wake of devastating floods that occurred in the late summer and fall of 1955, and he successfully led bipartisan efforts to aid damaged areas. Ribicoff then successfully argued for increased state spending on schools and welfare programs. He also supported an amendment to the state constitution that enhanced the governing powers of local municipalities. Easily reelected in 1958, Ribicoff had by now become active on the national political scene. A longtime friend of Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy, Ribicoff had nominated his fellow New Englander for vice president at the 1956 Democratic National Convention and was one of the first public officials to endorse Kennedy's presidential campaign.

Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare
When Kennedy became president in 1961, he offered Ribicoff his choice of cabinet posts in the new administration. He reportedly declined the position of attorney general for fear that he might create needless controversy within the emerging Civil Rights Movement because he was Jewish, and he instead chose to be secretary of health, education, and welfare (HEW). Although he managed to secure a revision of the 1935 Social Security Act that liberalized requirements for Aid to Dependent Children, Ribicoff was unable to gain approval for the administration's Medicare and school aid bills. Eventually, he tired of attempting to manage the department, whose very size made it, in his opinion, unmanageable.

Ribicoff reflected that he had sought out the position of HEW Secretary mainly out of concern for education and "realized that the problems of health and welfare were so overriding that education was relegated to the back burner" during his tenure.

United States Senate
He was finally elected to the United States Senate in 1962, replacing retiring incumbent Prescott Bush by defeating Republican nominee Horace Seely-Brown with 51% of the vote. He served in the Senate from January 3, 1963, until January 3, 1981.

Lyndon B. Johnson succeeded Kennedy as president when the latter was assassinated in 1963. Ribicoff supported Johnson at first but eventually turned against the Vietnam War and the president's management of it, believing that it drained badly needed resources away from domestic programs.

Ribicoff allied with consumer advocate Ralph Nader in creating the Motor Vehicle Highway Safety Act of 1966, which created the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The agency was responsible for many new safety standards on cars. These standards were questionable because up until then, the emphasis had always been put on the driver. In response, Ribicoff stated that:"The driver has many faults. He is negligent; he is careless; he is reckless. We understand that... I think it will be the millennium if you will ever get a situation where the millions and millions of drivers will all be perfect. They will always be making errors and making mistakes."

At the 1968 Democratic National Convention, during a speech nominating George McGovern, his senatorial colleague from South Dakota, he went off-script, saying, "And with George McGovern as President of the United States, we wouldn't have to have Gestapo tactics in the streets of Chicago." Many conventioneers, having been appalled by the response of the Chicago police to the ongoing anti-war demonstrations, broke into applause. Television cameras focused on the indignant reaction of Chicago Mayor Richard J. Daley. Ribicoff spent the remaining years of his Senate career fighting for such issues as school integration, welfare and tax reform, and consumer protection.

During the 1972 Democratic National Convention, presidential nominee George McGovern offered Ribicoff the Democratic vice-presidential nomination, but he declined and it eventually went to Senator Thomas Eagleton. After Eagleton withdrew, McGovern asked Ribicoff (among others) to take Eagleton's place. He again refused, publicly stating that he had no ambitions for higher office. McGovern eventually chose Sargent Shriver as his running mate. Later in 1972, following the death of his wife, Ribicoff married Lois Mell Mathes, who became known as "Casey".

During his time in the Senate, Ribicoff was chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Government Operations (94th and 95th Congresses) and its successor committee, the U.S. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs (95th and 96th Congresses).

Future U.S. Senator Joe Lieberman worked in Ribicoff's Senate office as a summer intern and met his first wife, Betty Haas, there.

In 1978, Ribicoff's niece Gail Rubin, was shot and killed in the Coastal Road massacre in Israel by Palestinian terrorists. Ribicoff denounced her killing as "an indefensible act of terrorism that deserves universal condemnation."

On May 3, 1979, Ribicoff announced his intention to retire at the end of his third term. President Jimmy Carter released a statement crediting Ribicoff with having "compiled a distinguished career of public service that can serve as a model of decency, compassion, and ability."

Later life
In 1981, Ribicoff fulfilled his pledge to retire from the Senate and took a position as special counsel in the New York law firm of Kaye Scholer LLP and divided his time between homes in Cornwall Bridge, Connecticut, and Manhattan. He was co-chairman of the 1988 Base Realignment and Closure Commission.

Having suffered in his later years from the effects of Alzheimer's disease, he died in 1998 at the Hebrew Home for the Aged in Riverdale in The Bronx, New York City, and is interred at Cornwall Cemetery in Cornwall, Connecticut.

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Feni (liquor)

Feni (fénnim, often misspelt as fenno or fenny) is a spiritous liquor type originating in Goa, India. The two most popular types of feni are cashew feni and coconut feni. Depending on the ingredients; however, other varieties and newer blends are also sold by distilleries. The small-batch distillation of feni has a fundamental effect on its final character, which still retains some of the delicate aromatics, congeners, and flavour elements of the juice from which it is produced.

The word "feni" is derived from the Sanskrit word फेन phena, in Konkani फेण fenn (froth); thought to come from the bubbles that form when the liquor is shaken inside a bottle or poured into a glass. It is generally accepted that coconut feni was produced before it, and feni followed the same process until distillation was introduced by Europeans. Coconut palms are abundant along the western coastline of the Konkan region of India, whereas the cashew tree was an exotic species of crops, imported by the Portuguese in Goa and Bombay, from what was colonial Brazil in south America. There is ambiguity about when and who first produced a fermented beverage of cashew fruits, to make the distilled spirit of feni.

The feni consumed in southern Goa is generally of higher alcohol content (43–45% abv) as compared to the feni produced in northern Goa. Commercially packaged feni is available at 42.8% abv.

Cashew feni
In the traditional method of making cashew feni, only tree-ripened cashew apples that have fallen are picked and taken for the crush. The cashew apples are de-seeded and then dropped into the stomping area. This area is called a collmi and is usually a rock cut into a basin shape. The cashew apples are stomped to release the juice. Stomping has now gradually been replaced by the use of a press called a pingre (cage). The pulp is then hand-patted into small mounds traditionally using a particular vine, nudi, which is snaked around it to hold it together while a heavyweight (typically a boulder) is placed on top. The juice produced through this second extraction process is known as Neero/Niro, and is refreshing to drink; however, it is not used in the fermentation process generally for making feni. The first juice extract, obtained by stomping cashew apples, is transferred traditionally in a large earthen pot called a koddem, which is buried halfway in the ground and left while the juice ferments for several days. Delicate earthen koddem have now been replaced by plastic drums for the sake of practicality. The juice is then allowed to sit for three days as it ferments. No additional yeast or nutrients are added to hasten the process.

Cashew feni is distilled employing the traditional pot, which is still practiced. A traditional still for feni is still known as a bhatti. The use of an earthen pot as the boiling pot has now been replaced with copper pots, both known by the same name, bhann. The distillate is collected in an earthen pot called a launni. The tradition of cold water being continuously poured on the launni to condense the distillate has now been replaced by immersing a coil in cold water.

Cashew feni is a triple-distilled spirit. The first distillate of the fermented neero is known as Urrak, about 15% alcohol (30 proof). Urrak is then mixed with neero in a proportion determined by the distiller, and redistilled to give a spirit called cazulo or cajulo (40–42% abv). Cazulo or cajulo is again distilled with Urrak to give a high-strength spirit called feni (45% abv). Note that cazulo is generally sold as "feni", as the spirit is considered too strong of an alcoholic beverage for consumption. All cashew feni now available is double-distilled.

Coconut feni
Coconut feni, also known as Maddel or Maddachim Fenni, is distilled from fermented toddy from the coconut palm. Traditionally toddy is collected from the coconut palm by a toddy-tapper called a Reindér. Toddy-tapping—the collection of juice from the bud or spadix of palm tree flowers—has been practiced in the Indian Subcontinent and Southeast Asia for centuries. The sap of the coconut palm is collected in an earthen pot called a zamonnô or damonnem, which is fitted over the spadix (ipoi) that grows out of the base of each coconut leaf. In order to produce toddy, the spadix is tightly bound with a rope (gofê/gophe) made from filaments (vaiê) cut with a small knife (piskathi) from the base of the leaf, while remaining attached to the pedicle. The spadix then must be tapped all around very gently with the handle of the kathi (a flat semi-circular sickle) every alternate day until it becomes round and flexible, a sign that the sap is ready. The tip of the spadix is then cut off to let the sap ooze out into the damonnem.

Toddy is collected from the damonnem in the morning and evening, and then carried down the tree in a gourd-shaped container called a dudhinnem before being poured into a clay pot called a kollsô. The spadix is sharpened at noon by slicing a small piece horizontally off the top, called cheu, so as to reactivate the flow of sap. For three days the toddy used to be left to ferment in clay or porcelain pots, called monn or jhallo.

Coconut feni is largely produced and consumed only in South Goa. It is distilled employing the traditional pot. Coconut feni is prepared in a distillery known as a sôreachi bhatti. The use of an earthen pot as the boiling pot has now been replaced with copper cauldrons, both known by the same name, bhann. The mouth of the bhann is sealed with a wooden stopper called a mhorannem. The vapours from the bhann pass through a tube called a nollo, made from a bonnki/bonnqui stem, and are collected in a clay distillation pot called a launni, which is placed in an open clay vessel called a koddem filled with water. The copper coil is immersed in cold water to condense the vapours.

Commercially bottled coconut feni has a strength of 42.8% abv. Coconut feni is a double-distilled spirit; the first distillate is called a mollop, about 15% alcohol (30 proof). Four kollxem (plural of kollsô) of toddy produce two pots of mollop. Four pots of mollop are then mixed with one kollso of toddy, which is added to distill what is then a fiery coconut feni.

Commerce
The feni selling market is largely unorganised. Locals tend to buy feni directly from the thousands of traditional distillers who run seasonal mini-distilleries or stalls in the villages of Goa. A large volume of feni that is distilled is sold directly by distillers to taverns who have business relationships that extend over generations.

Cashew feni is seasonal, distilled only from late February to mid-May. It is highly dependent on the fruiting of the season. The price of cashew feni is also speculated on the fruiting season.

Coconut feni is produced throughout the year as coconut trees are tapped year round. During the monsoon months, the coconut palms produce more toddy than the drier months. Toddy tapping is very labour-intensive and so is not an appealing profession. This has led to the dramatic decline in production of coconut feni.

In the organised sector, there are also hundreds of brands to choose from that cater to the tourist market. Locals have slowly begun to switch to standardised bottled feni in recent years.

Consumption
Feni can be served neat or over ice, and can be mixed in classic cocktails or with juices. It can be served with a slice of lime, and sometimes with sugar or sugar syrup, which are popular additions.

Popular mixers are cola, tonic water& lemonade, with the latter probably the most popular. Feni is also often mixed with Limca, Maaza, Sprite, or 7up.

Feni has also culinary applications, such as in the marinade for pork, along with garlic, ginger, Indian spices, and vinegar, as the base for the iconic Vindaloo curry.

Geographical Indication
Cashew feni was awarded Geographical Indication registration in 2009 as a speciality alcoholic beverage from Goa, described as a colourless, clear liquid that when matured in wooden barrels develops golden brown tint. This designation was achieved through the efforts of the Goa Cashew Feni Distillers & Bottlers Association and the Department of Science, Technology & Environment of the Government of Goa. The application of a G.I. for coconut feni has been neglected.

Heritage drink
In 2016, the Goan government initiated a process for feni to be recognised as a heritage brew outside of the state. Goa Chief Minister Laxmikant Parsekar described feni as "part of our culture". Plans include nature tourism where tourists can see cashew harvesting and follow the process of the drink's manufacture. Several distillers urged the government to issue rules on distillation process and ensure that they are obeyed. Counterfeit feni and adulteration in quality were some of the issues raised by participants.

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Wikipedia:Help desk/Archive 4

legal characters in URL string being escaped
I first noticed this problem during the time when the major hardware upgrade and site redesign were going on. That's not to say that it wasn't present before; I could have just not picked up on it.

It seems that any entry with parentheses in the title is having those characters escaped -- despite the fact that they are legal according to RFC 1738.

Now, when I first noticed this, it was working properly, but simultaneously to that, I was talking to a friend and when I referred him to the same page, he was seeing escaped characters.

To get an idea of what I'm talking about, try going here kingdom and then hover the (biology) link. The tooltip shows properly. The link appears in the bottom of the browser as it should, but when you go to the page, the URL string in the address bar appears as "Kingdom_%28biology%29".

I'm really interested in knowing what's causing this. At first, I thought it might be a wonky browser/font config, but I did some research that seemed to indicate that it's got to do with the way the webserver is returning and rendering page requests.

Just Some Ideas
I work as a picturedesk employee for ZUMA Press. My job entails editing, color correcting, and captioning images. Most of my work is of archival in nature, or more easily put 'old news'. I recieve the images in 35mm slide format from one of our 600 or so photograhers, and I get to work on the process by beginning to scan the images. The most difficult part of my job is captioning, because the amount of information that a photographer can fit on a slide, even on the rare occassions of when they are not lazy, is very limited. Although a large portion of the information for celebrities that I need for captioning can be found on IMDb, I have found your site to be more thorough, and much more helpful for non celebrity material. I would like to thank you for your service, as well as to offer you some ideas towards your cause.

First, I would think that it would benefit you greatly in building your database if you were able to add a feature to the 'Search Results' page of your site that would allow users to add 'Terms' (Search Field) that were not found when searched. For example: I typed 'Cybill Shepard' into your search field and the results yielded no information. If instead of a dead end, you could allow a user like myself to contribute a request, or to share the info that I must find regardless of my results with your page, perhaps it would be of greater benefit, than painus glutimus maximus.

Second, I was wonderring if you have a faq on how to begin the editting process, and information about  the required computing competancy necesary to contribute. I do not doubt that there is such a document, however I thought that if you made a simple downloadable .pdf that was easier to find, that  you might avoid alienating a large percentage of our population who suffer from attention defecit dissorder, or at least short attention spans.

Cheers, Damon

P.S. I have several great topics that do not yield results on your site, is there any method in which order you add new terms?

 * There is an FAQ--check FAQ, as well as Tutorial for how to edit. As for making new articles, there's no official "order"--users just contribute them in any order they please.  To start a new article, you can create a link to it by surrounding the words with double brackets: for instance, this ( Cybil Shepard turns into this (Cybil Shepard).  The best way to get recommendations, help, etc. without asking is to create an account--most people who do so get welcomed by the Welcoming committee. I hope all this helps.  Best wishes, and happy editing. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 23:42, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * There is a way to start a new article from the Search results page, but I realize that it's not obvious since it's not the first thing one looks at on the Search Results page. Right under the "Search results" heading, next to the "For query blahblah" thing, there's a link to edit the page that has the same title as the query you've typed, and if there's no page with that title, that link takes you to a blank "edit" form, where you can begin typing the article.

 * However, in the case you mention, there already is an article on her, but her name's spelled Cybill Shepherd. Lucky Wizard 05:02, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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Thanks for the help, I will look into your advice. I am a newb with java, c++, html, and most prgramming, etc. but I would like to help out. As for Cybill Shepherd, there is her official site that I found on yahoo that spells it 'Cybil Shepard'. However, many celebs are often creditted under multiple names. If for example Cybil was creditted as Cybill sometimes, would there be a way so that either entry in the search field yielded the same page? Again, I am just beginning so bare with me. So that you don't take me for a complete newb, I have been using computers since around 85, but I only used DOS to install games, and to reformat when things got bad. I have built my last three computers, but have never learned the language. Does anyone have some advice on where I should start, perhaps a book recomondation that would help me understand the programming language that you use, how it works, or should I be able to pick up what I need from reading the faqs? ]  ) / - \  /  V  \    |  \  |

 * Hmmm. In theory, Redirects should cover the problem with multiple names. However, not all of the needed redirects exist. I need to start creating redirects more often.

 * As for learning the Wikipedia language, check out How to edit a page. As far as I know, this markup language is peculiar to Wikipedia and a few other wikis, so there isn't really a book about it. Lucky Wizard 04:29, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

nirvana
What is the proper way to include a template many times on a page? It seems the number that can be used is limited. See Nirvana. --Eequor 00:02, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * 1) nirvana
 * 2) nirvana
 * 3) nirvana
 * 4) nirvana
 * 5) nirvana
 * 6) nirvana
 * 7) nirvana
 * 8) nirvana
 * What was the purpose of those templates? Some kind of special chararcter? Rmhermen 04:12, Jul 3, 2004 (UTC)

In this particular case I think you should use "nirvana" (the English word) in the body of the article. Write "nirvāṇa" once, in the introductory paragraph. Remember that the English Wikipedia is an English language encyclopedia. People who are familiar with the National Library at Calcutta romanization system for Indic languages will find "nirvāṇa" a useful guide to pronunciation. But most English speakers will be happy for the rest of the article to use the English word "nirvana".

(A similar issue arises for all English words or names which are inaccurate transliterations of terms in other languages. The Wikipedia approach is to use the English word in the article, but give an accurate transliteration near the start of the article. See for example, Rome, shogi.) Gdr 18:28, 2004 Jul 3 (UTC)

 * This is a Wikipedia convention: see Naming conventions (use English). Gdr 11:22, 2004 Jul 5 (UTC)

Subtraction symbols don't appear in articles, just a rectangle
I checked more than one mathematical article (such as Subtraction) to be sure that the problem was not just in one article. The subtraction symbol, apparently coded with &minus;, does not appear as it should in the articles. All I see is a rectangle. Why? What's the fix? I have the huge Unicode font file, so certainly the symbol is available.

 * It's a problem with your computer, not with Wikipedia. Either (a) you don't have a font with a minus sign, or (b) your browser can't find the right font, or (c) your browser doesn't know that &minus; refers to the minus sign. Does − (&#8772;) work for you? If it does, then your problem is (c). Gdr 18:34, 2004 Jul 3 (UTC)

OK, it looks like the answer was (b). I fixed it (in IE 6) with Tools/Internet Options/General/Accessability/Ignore font styles present in Web pages. I don't know why ignoring font styles would make the characters display correctly, but that's the setting that does it.

categories
I'm trying to figure out how to add a link in categories. I thought it was

Category:Whatever (with 2 enclosing "[") at the bottom of a page, but that starts a new category instead of adding to a category in existence.

 * So long as the category "Whatever" already exists, it should add the page to that. Could you give a link to a page where you've tried this and it's failed, maybe? --Camembert

Nevermind forgot to NOT capitalize bases.... Williamb 13:39, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

How do you use categories?
I keep seeing things about categories, but I haven't figure out how to use them or the conventions yet. Is there a tutorial somewhere that I just haven't found yet? dyknowsore

Try Categorization. Secretlondon 22:59, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Try clicking in the upper right corner of the main page {[browse by topic}}.

Kissinger
May I quote from your information on Kissinger for a book Im writing?

Penelope Maclachlan

 * Sure. You can copy the entire article if you want, but then the text would have to be licensed under the GNU Free Documentation License. Short excerpts are no problem without the GNU Free Documentation License, I think. It would be great if you could refer to wikipedia. Happy authoring. -- Chris 73 | Talk 23:50, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Also, take a look at Citing Wikipedia.    – Jrdioko  (Talk)  21:19, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Another new color scheme :-(
OK, guys - I know you've got to experiment before you get things right for everybody - and, no doubt, I'm posting this in the wrong place. But, it has to be said - that the new colour scheme for links is a step in the wrong direction. I know it's been said somewhere that people couldn't see a clear distinction between passive, active and visited links - but to go to bright colours such as you have done is unnecessary, imho.

If this is not the place to discuss this, please let me know where the discussion is happening - I do find navigating and finding my way around the various 'Help' and 'Special' sections incredibly difficult (if I find something new like the 'Villlage Pump', I may forget to bookmark it and not re-discover it for a couple of months!) How about having a go at improving the navigation for users? I'd appreciate that more than the new pretty colours!

Agendum 16:31, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * That sounds like an interesting idea to me, personally. But I'm not sure what to do about it.  As a new user, could you tell me your problems/suggestions at User talk:Meelar? Thanks, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 21:22, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Add my own tables - integration
I have a small maritime encyclopedia. The data is stored in a MySQL database. Is there a possibility of integrating those tables in Wikipedia? The tables contain all the data of the vessels (name, build, shipyard, engines, length, ...). Could I integrate it, or should I create an wikipedia aricle from every record?

Thanks Frederic

 * I believe it's technically possible- see rambot. However, I have no idea as to the details or policy regarding such an action. Strike that- check Bots. Good luck. Rossumcapek 12:20, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Freelink/Redirect to wikisource?
I've figured out how to freelink/redirect to meta,books,etc. But wikisource has me confused. Any ideas how to freelink/redirect to wikisource? Also, is there any page about standardized formatting/style for freelinking between wikiprojects? Much thanks —siroχo 12:27, Jul 5, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, it is odd, Main Page works from Meta, but not from here.--Patrick 15:28, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I just discovered that, oddly, m:Wikisource:Main Page works!--Patrick 15:35, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Other test: Constitution of the United States of America, m:Wikisource:Constitution of the United States of America.--Patrick 15:38, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for your help finding this out! Think this is a bug of sorts? Should we report it? —siroχo 02:06, Jul 6, 2004 (UTC)

 * Please do, see MediaWiki feature request and bug report discussion--Patrick 15:42, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Speedy delete category
I asked this on Template talk:Delete, but I assume many don't frequent that page, so I thought I'd also ask here. I'm just wondering why a category was added to Template:Delete. Is there something categories can do that the "What links here" method can't? IMO it's just adding extra clutter to those pages, although I suppose if they're going to be deleted it doesn't really matter. – Jrdioko (Talk)  21:24, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Category:Places
Why was this deleted? Why wasn't I informed it was going to be deleted? Mr. Jones 18:04, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC) (Put this here to keep category related queries togethere)

Articles which are Candidates for Deletion: Riverside Drive
Hi! When writing an article about a New York landmark I linked "Riverside Drive", which is a New York street of some note. However, the new link pointed to "Riverside Drive" a road in Canada. So, not a problem, I write a stub called "Riverside Drive (New York)" and pipe my old link to it. Trouble is, I now want to place a link to my new stubby "Riverside Drive (New York) in the old "Riverside Drive", in case anyone's looking for it. Now I notice that "Riverside Drive" is a candidate for deletion.  I follow the links to 'discuss it', but don't see the article on the list I get taken to.  How do I know what's up--do I bother to make the new link, is the article going to be deleted, what about my new stub, is that going to be deleted too, etc. etc.  Quill 22:31, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Try asking Niteowlneils about why it doesn't appear on VfD, as he was the one who put the VfD tag on the article in the first place .  I'd leave Riverside Drive alone until you get a response from him.

 * As a rule, we don't much like articles on streets. They tend to be just "This street runs from the north end of town and stops at the freeway". However, Riverside Drive (New York) seems to be of enough interest to keep. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:08, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

IRC
Hi there.. I'm going to ask what I feel may be a foolish question. I know you have an IRC chat. I've read about it offhand, and at one point found where you mentioned it. But not anymore. I've spent a few weeks trying to figure out where it was; and have finally given up.....where might one find it? Rhymeless 03:12, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Maybe you're looking for IRC Channels.    – Jrdioko  (Talk)  03:29, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

about plagiarism: is it cricket?
Firstly, as an enthusiastic newcomer, please excuse me if this is posted to the wrong place

however- the bones

wandering thru' the wiki I found out about the Lab color space, by reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lab_color_space

wanting to find out more, I googled it- and found that the page http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/Lab%20color%20space

is an exact copy of the wikipedia page. I don't know who was first- but is plagiarism considered cricket?

Richard ginestreNOSPAMPLEASEomnilog.com
 * Richard, nope, plagiarism's not cricket. :-) But we release all materials here under the GFDL.  In simple terms, that means anyone can use the materials for essentially any purpose, as long as they credit us, and as long as their work is released under the GFDL.  There are more details about it in the footer, I think, also.  The site you've noted copies all our articles, and attaches advertising -- in small print at the bottom of the page, they credit us under the terms of the GFDL.  You can find out about more such sites at Mirrors and forks. Jwrosenzweig 16:13, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

"Encyclopedic-enough" rulebook
How can people decide what belongs in an encyclopedia and what doesn't? For instance, take three artists: Picasso (of worldly fame), Jacob_Lawrence (randomly selected artist of limited fame), and my neighbor the artist (of neighborly fame). Obviously Picasso has an entry in all encyclopedias. Jacob Lawrence (who I know nothing about) perhaps belongs in an encyclopedia, and my neighbor definitely does not belong. So there exists a fuzziness when deciding what to add or delete. I would think there would need to be somekind of unambiguous ruleset that stated things like "High Schools - ALLOWED" "High School Mascots - NOT ALLOWED" ... and so on. Does this exist? and if so, where? Paitum 01:19, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * It's not exactly an unambiguous ruleset, but take a look at What's in, what's out.    – Jrdioko  (Talk)  01:30, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Also might want to take a look at What Wikipedia is not. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:15, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Link structure for new sections with supplied section name?
I am trying to get the talk link in my signature to create a new section on my talk page - and I want the new section title to indicate the referring page so for instance:

 sectionname=

Does the link structure allow for creating a new section with a given name? The section post/get variable is expecting a numeric and when I supply a section name it isn't handled well. I have been unable to find a list of get/post variables or link structure breakdown. Any help is appreciated, thanks. — Michael Alaly  | [  Talk]    09:02, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Admin abuse
I just registered and created an initial basic user page ( User:Flurdy ) to test how it looks. However 1 minute after I created it, someone deleted it. The deletor claims to be an admin and the reason for deletion was because he can.

I recreated it, but looking at the differences in the revision history two people seem to have edited my page, User:200.56.224.5 and User:Dysprosia. (The first user, I presume is an IP and it is not mine).

I am not certain how WikiPedia works, but is it right that people can randomly delete pages as they seem fit? Or can they remove and edit the entire page as they seem fit? Does that not imply admin abuse?

The content of the page was not the best, just basic info on who I am, as it was only an initial revision to build upon later with more relavant information.

I do use WikiPedia quite a lot, and it seemed a natural progression to register. And I do understand WikiPedia's method of open authoring. However I am unwilling to populate the User page if it can be deleted instantly without any notification procedure or valid reasoning.

Cheers, Ivar

Is it possible for an admin or someone else to check the above IP to see if it matches one of our problem users? I am sure it wasn't an admin. If we can identify who is likely discouraging a new user, I'd vote for immediate permanent expulsion. Alteripse 12:28, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I have just checked and there was no deletion of User:Flurdy. Is it possible that you accidentally created the page in article space?  Perhaps it was misspelled or lacking the "User" portion? -  Tεx  τ  urε  12:45, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * In addition, it appears that Dysprosia reverted vandalism by User:200.56.224.5. Admins and other users are watching to help protect your user page. - Tεx  τ  urε  12:45, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks for the advices. It appears to me that an unknown (User:200.56.224.5) edited the page and as Texture mentions that Dysprosia reverted it nearly immidietly. I am appreciative of the effort people did put in to help and assist with this and Wiki in general. I hope the user can be tracked down. I am though amazed at the speed of it. There couldnt have been many minutes between registering, first page edit, vandalism and then revertion.

 * Admins often watch Recent changes to see what edits are happening at any given moment.Dysprosia was probably doing this. When she saw an edit to your user page by someone who was not you (We don't normally edit other peoples user pages) she probably smelled a rat and decided to check the edit out. In general, vandalism is usually reverted very quickly. theresa knott 21:42, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Template: please add to this list
I know that there's a template for a message that says 'please add to this list' or something of the sort, but I couldn't find it, (nor could I remember any article I'd seen with that message in it).

Where the devil is it? I tried searching for 'templates', 'messages' etc. etc. Why is this so hard to find??? Quill 00:47, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * How about ? I found it at Template messages. HTH     – Jrdioko  (Talk)  02:56, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * That's it--thank you! Quill 05:15, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Translation
Can I help you in translating the page to Assamese, the Indian language?

 * If I understand you correctly, see How to start a new wikipedia.    – Jrdioko  (Talk)  03:58, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Admin unable to edit specific Template
The following message

 * Database error
 * From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
 * A database query syntax error has occurred. This could be because of an illegal search query (see Searching Wikipedia), or it may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was:
 * UPDATE cur SET cur_touched='20040708192020' WHERE cur_id IN (326121,537001,639329,669483,684147,689305)

 * from within function "Title::touchArray". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; Try restarting transaction".

(or, if it differs between attempts, something that is indistinguishable at a glance) is the repeated result of my trying to edit VfDFooter. (This includes moving the blank at end of one line to end of another line, so i won't burden you with content of the edit.) I've only tried in last few hours; no one has edited it for several weeks. --Jerzy(t) 19:41, 2004 Jul 8 (UTC)

In the last hour, i succeeded with two edits matching those that were unsuccessful before. --Jerzy(t) 07:34, 2004 Jul 13 (UTC)

English grammar help - Languages in/of India
I was thinking about adding a new category to identify languages present in India, in that category list. I'm much confused to name it 'coz of grammar. Which is correct?--Language of India or Languages in India or anything else? Should I add "the" inside for example Languages in the India? TIA. --Rrjanbiah 12:12, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I messed something up
Hello, I am new to using Wikipedia and do not really understand the nature of an open encyclopedia. In my ignorance I edited a page referring to Norman Lockyer which resulted in the loss of the content that was contained. I did not realize at the time that I was doing this. Is there anyway that the original authors content can be restored. If not let me know and I will do my own research and try to replace the content although I doubt that it will be as good as what was originally there. Please let me know, thanks.

 * Don't worry I've reverted your changes. We keep a history of every edit. Anything you do can be undone. If you look at the top of each page you will see a series of tabs. One of them says "history" click on this to see a complete history of the page. Click on an earlier version, then edit that version (you don't have to actually make any changes). Save that version and the old content is restored. theresa knott 17:41, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Can't Move Pages, Cleanup Articles - How to get permissions?
I'm a fairly new user and have been adding to the Canadian military articles. I've got two articles on the same subject with different names and content: The Queens Own Rifles and Queen's Own Rifles both titles are slightly incorrect and it should be "The Queen's Own Rifles" (as the proper name).

I want to move one of the articles tot he proper name, and merge the other one into it (I'll use a redirect so that the articles can still be found)... however I appear not to have permissions to move the pages and am told to login (even though I already have logged in).

I did see a note about this, so how do I go about requesting permission to do things like Move?
 * You don't need permission to move (once you have an account and are logged in), you should be able to just click on the move button. Rmhermen 19:50, Jul 9, 2004 (UTC)

 * I think page move for non admins was disabled a while ago when Wik's vandalbot was in action.It's possible it hasn't been restored yet. I'm happy to move the page for you (please sign your name with four tildes ~ so I know who you are), but Queen's Own Rifles already redirects to The Queen's Own Rifles of Canada so are you absolutely sure about the new name? theresa knott 08:19, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

new page opens incorrectly going to edit mode.
weird link problem:

I can not understand why the page sittingbourne which is linked to several other pages only opens up in edit mode, when one clicks on it. The link is the wrong colour, like it is incorrect. help!!!!

Faedra 11:45, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I run into the same trouble from time to time; right now I'm getting it with kennel club when going from internal links in other articles; there's no problem if I use 'search' and then the Go button, and no problem going from this page. However, the link to kennel club from the dog breeder article e.g. didn't work.  I've just 'fixed' it by changing the 'k' to 'K', but since other internal links work just fine with lower case first letters, I've no idea why that fixed it.  If anyone knows what's going on, please share.Quill 02:35, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Fact checking: How to exclude Wikipedia from Googling
When I want to check a suspicious fact or term on a Wikipedia page, I start searching using Google. But it's sometimes hard to check whether the only mentioning is from Wikipedia, due to the large number mirrors/copies.

Is there some nice trick or idea, how to exclude the Wikipedia article (and its copies!) from the Google search?

Pjacobi 16:57, 10 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I suppose you could use something like -wikipedia -encyclopedia -dictionary (that shoucd cover most of wikipedias mirrors), basically use a dash (as a minus sign) to exclude results with the term following it. —siroχo 00:42, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

 * Actually, just adding -wikipedia will exclude most of the mirrors, since most of the mirrors credit Wikipedia. Hence, the mirrors that credit Wikipedia will be excluded. Lucky Wizard 04:29, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks, -wikipedia -encyclopedia -dictionary did a good job when googling for "chandrasekhar limit". Using -wikipedia alone is defeated by tricks played by some of the copies (like adding the credits using Javascript, so that Google doesn't see them). Pjacobi 09:57, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Here's something you can do. (I just thought of this now actually, but I'm sure others have too)  If you use a browser that allows keywords/shortcuts to URLs you can make a quick one to check wikipedia.  I use Mozilla Firefox, and this is what I did.  I bookmarked 'http://www.google.com/search?q=-wikipedia%20-dictionary%20-encyclopedia%20%s' and set its keyword to 'check', so now when i type 'check "some stuff I think is a copyvio"', it searches google for '-wikipedia -dictionary -encyclopedia "some stuff I think is a copyvio."'  The %s in the URL is browser dependant I think.  —siroχo 11:05, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)
 * (One sets the keyword by right clicking on the bookmark and selecting properties, then editing the appropriate field.) Mr. Jones 03:59, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Automatic Requested Articles?
On Special:Recentchanges, near the top, there are two grey (for me) lines of text for Requested_articles. One reads "Requests" and the other reads "Request types." (I'm getting into the habit of creating stubs from these.) Are these somehow automatically generated on this special page? If not, how do they appear on the special page? Currently, there's a request for amae, a non-existent article that only appears referenced from Special:Recentchanges. So- how did it get onto the Recent Changes page without appearing on Requested Articles?

Any shed light is appreciated. Rossumcapek 12:14, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Only an admin can add an article to the recent changes page - they are supposed to take them from requested articles - clearly this person didn't. Secretlondon 17:51, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * Actually, anyone can edit the recent changes headers. amae was added by User:Karada if you'd like to ask that user more about the addition. Secretlondon is correct that additions to the requested articles should come from the requested articles listings. I normally take the top ones from most requested. -  Tεx  τ  urε  18:08, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Picture Usage
Hi, I am the head of an organization called the World Tiger Mission (www.suddenstorm.net/WTM) and I am putting together a calendar with beautiful pictures of tigers. I would like to use your picture, "tiger.jpg," and "bengaltiger.jpg." I looked into your copyright agreement, but didn't see anything about images and I didn't know quite where to look. May I have your permission to use those? I will not be making any profit from this, all profits go to tiger refuge and rehabilitation centers. Please email response to webmaster@suddenstorm.net

Thank you for your time, Carly Tuma President & founder SuddenStorm Graphics, and the World Tiger Mission

 * Answered via email. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:15, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

link to Japanese wikipedia
How do you make a link to an article on the Japanese wikipedia? I want a link to ja:安倍吉俊 on my Yoshitoshi ABe article, but if i try & it comes up as no link at all (see the current Yoshitoshi ABe page). I think this might be related to the fact that the unicode kanji is converted to html entities, and it interprets it instead as a link to & #23433;& #20493;& #21513;& #20426; (without the spaces). I dunno, though. Thanks in advance. Pyrop 23:08, Jul 11, 2004 (UTC)

We currently have content filtering in place as part of our internet security, but I dont think i'm going have time searching for all the content that the local educational authority would say to block.

I'm going to try the forking, thanks for the good comments. After some thought I dont think anybody could be totally for freedom of speech when it comes down to protecting kids and that.

Confused over copyright
Being a newcomer I have a question regarding creating a new article. Say I wanted to write an article on widgets, I've read a couple of books on widgets and could piece together an article. I'm not going to copy sentences word for word, but inevitably I'm going to use the information in the books, perhaps facts, phrases, etc. At what point is this ok and when would it become a copyright issue? Say I used a fact that was only in one of the books and indeed in no other books on widgets... does the author of that book have ownership of the fact, even if it is worded differently? I guess what I'm getting at is that all information is taken from somewhere, even experts in a field have assimilated some of their knowledge from others as well as their own experiences. If someone's exact words aren't copied, does copyright apply? Hope that makes sense! Tomfly 22:12, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Copyright covers the writing- How it's written, the style of layout, the exact words chosen. It does not cover the facts. It is absolutely fine to rewrite in your own words. You do not violate copyright if you do this. theresa knott 22:22, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * We already have an article on widgets so you could just expand it. It isn't much more than a stub. Or didn't you mean that literally? ;) Rmhermen 17:03, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

 * Indeed ;) But now I'm tempted... Tomfly 22:31, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * However, paraphrasing is plagiarism. You cannot, for example, take an article and write the whole thing over in your own words, that's plagiarism, because you're parroting someone else's ideas, rather than coming up with ideas of your own.  So, if you haven't done any 'work' to create the article, it's probably plagiarism.  Quill 05:23, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Quill, I'd have to respectfully disagree with you. My Hodges' Harbrace Handbook (granted, it's not canonical, but it illustrates the point) says that paraphrasing is not plagarism, as long as the material is a true restatement of gleaned material.  However, retaining the same sentence structure while substituting synonyms for the author's words would be plagarism.  In any case, if you write a research paper for say, college, there's not much expectation that you'd developed original ideas, but rather have incorporated the ideas of many writers in your own unique and suave way.  Regardless, it would be proper to include sources in the wikipedia article.  Just my thoughts.  Ocon | Talk 05:32, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Adding Photogrphs
How do I upload new images? I'm sure there must be a page describing how to do this, but where is it? Andy Mabbett 14:53, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * The instructions are at the upload page itself. In my "Standard" skin, it's on the left, but somewhere, there should be a link saying "upload file"--just click it, and the instructions are there.  You can also try Image tutorial, though I didn't find it all that helpful.  I keep meaning to go back and rework it. [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 14:56, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Image difficulty
While I've been using and editing Wikipedia for a while now, this is my first time experimenting with an image. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but it just keeps coming up 'missing image'. Could someone take a look at Ed Wood, Jr. and see what's up with it? Thanks! - Angry_Candy

 * I fixed it for you. 1) Image names are case sensitive.  So you have to link Edwood1.jpg not edwood1.jpg.  2) You had Image:Image:edwood1.jpg.  That was probably just you experimenting to get it right.  moink 16:43, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Image:edwood1.jpg also works.--Patrick 21:31, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Oops, guess I was wrong about the case sensitivity. Must have been the Image:Image: thing.  moink 21:35, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * They are case sensitive, Image:edWood1.jpg does not work. I think the software capatalises the first letter anyway though. theresa knott 21:42, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Dazed and Confused: is Wikipedia the son or brother of ProjectGutenberg?
Maybe I'm thinking too hard about this, but I can't find a page or a link to a page where I might sign up to be a volunteer editor.

But wait, how does Wikipedia relate to Project Gutenberg?

The way you use the terms proofreading and editing are also making my head spin

I have done proofreading, and I have done editing: generally these are two almost exclusively seperate roles, or at a minimum occur at a different point in the time line of the production of a hardcover, online, or softcover, multimedia, slide show document--editing produces final 'approved" text while proofreading verifies the accuracy of the spelling, grammar, before the final work is published.

Editing allows the "editor" to inject herhis knowledge, opinions, attitudes and style; proofreading is based on a comparison of "new" draft text for publication with the "old" approved final manuscript text and many times proofreaders will read the document backward so that the literal words and punctuation can be checked w/o being distracted by the flow of the content.

That is what I was looking for, volunteer proofreading, but somehow I missed the place where I signup to volunteer, or the place where I compare the sample document to the original.

Since I hope I can help I hope you can help me?

 * You don't sign up, you just click the "edit this page link" at the top of every page and away you go. I know it seems really "stupid" that we just let anyone edit pages like this. Hell it is really stupid, and yet this stupid approach is what makes Wikipedia soooooo good.Proofreading is really useful as some of us are really bad at typing and make loads of silly spelling errors (I'm talking about myself here, but there must be a few others who are nearly as bad as me [who are you trying to kid Theresa you know you're the worst so far]). You can choose to work anon or you can log in and get a user account forst if you want (click "log in" at the top right of every page) HTH theresa knott 19:53, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, with appreciation, RK

 * Also if you want to compare a version with the previous one click on the "Histroy tab" although as Wikipedia is always a work in progress you can never assume the old version will be error free. theresa knott 19:55, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Something else to note, we aren't transcribing here, so the reason you're not finding a source document to compare to is because there isn't one. -- Cyrius|✎ 22:28, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * This site isn't related to Project Gutenburg although some of work on both. Perhaps you were thinking of Distributed Proofreaders. Rmhermen 17:03, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Accuracy and Veracity
I have just stumbled across Wikipedia, sorry, but that's the truth. Question: How is the accuracy and veracity of Wikipedia articles determined?

 * See Replies to common objections, as well as Why Wikipedia is so great. Basically, the fact that anyone can edit any page means that errors are fixed very quickly, and the scrutiny that takes place on the recent pages page weeds out vandalism. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 01:02, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
 * There are two answers, neither of which is completely correct. The first is that the accuracy and veracity of Wikipedia articles are not determined.  There's no guarantee that a given article has been fact-checked by anyone, and at any given time there are certainly inaccurate articles.  The other answer is that the accuracy and veracity are determined by lots and lots of people like you.  If someone sees an inaccuracy, they correct it, so the more times a page has been viewed, the more people have looked for and possiblly corrected errors in it. Isomorphic 03:54, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm a new user as well (signed up yesterday in fact). In my humble opinion, Wikipedia appears to be in some cases more accurate than other published materials.  People often will trust published material, however you will usually find that if you know a topic really well usually at least one thing in the article is either unclear, misleading, or plain wrong.  This is the greatness of Wikipedia.  many people can continuosly write and edit articles, further refining articles, correcting eachothers mistakes, etc. --DivisionByZero 07:39, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Should I create a new article or add a section?
I'm a new user (signed up yesterday) and I'm writing either a new article or a fairly large addition to an already existing article. I am currently attempting to code my own interpreter utilizing Reverse Polish notation as the final structure of the compiled code. My tokenizer converts Infix expressions to Reverse Polish expressions for its math evaluation, and eventually for everything else. I'd like to add my knowledge of this process to the Wikipedia, however don't know the best way to do so. Either I could make it a section in Infix notation/Reverse Polish notation or I could create a new article and provide links between them. What do you think? Also, since its rather a complex topic (took me a couple days to figure out all the details and how exactly it will work), for comprehension it seems better to present in a tutorial form rather than a reference data type of form. Are things like tutorials okay (like how to.. guides etc)?

BTW, what about a tutorial wiki? hmmm :D

 * I won't pretend to understand your first paragraph, but you might want to look at Tutorial. Best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 13:05, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * See How-to. Also there is Wikibooks.--Patrick 15:57, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Do not worry too much about whether it should be separate or not, merging or splitting can always be done later.--Patrick 16:07, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Okay, I'm just going to add it to the rpn article. Thanks for the links. 66.248.102.68 20:13, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia on CD for offline use
Will there be a Wikipedia on CD for offline use that will still allow you to get updates via the wikipedia site ?
 * There has been some discussion of that, but nothing definitive has been set yet - see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia#CD.2FDVD_distribution . For now, the best we can offer is that you can download the database at http://download.wikimedia.org/ . →Raul654 09:15, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)
 * By the way, the text (compressed) is 168 megabytes. With all the images, Wikipedia's database is just about the size of a DVD (maybe slightly more or less). →Raul654 09:24, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Removing Inappropriate Links
I have recently removed an inappropriate link (and stated why); is that enough, or should I report the issue for further investigation (it looks like an affiliate link of some kind, and there may be more). Heenan73 10:19, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I'm assuming you're referring to the link on Talk:Vampire that goes to one of those terrible spammish web directories. That link has been there since July 13, 2001, which is so long ago that the only reason I can't track it farther back is that article histories start around that point. It's likely that the site the link points to has changed hands in the intervening three years. No foul play, just a stale link.

 * If you see a person actively adding new spam links, report them on Vandalism in progress. While links to commercial sites are allowed in the proper context (Amazon.com links to Amazon.com), spam is not tolerated. -- Cyrius|✎ 13:31, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thanks - very helpful. Heenan73 14:18, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Adding pictures to user page
I have an image which I would like to put on my user page (humourous in nature, a photo which is not of me, authorship unknown-although this could be changed at short notice to a picture of myself if need be). Is it OK to upload this to WP in the normal fashion? JoeBaldwin 15:35, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * As long as the picture is usable under our copyright. See Copyrights for more info.  Assuming it is, then there's really no prohibition as to what you can put on your user page. best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 15:37, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Links don't seem to be working for me
I have written my first page: titled Exchequer of Pleas, which exists if you search for it. A link I have put under "Exchequer" does not link there, but goes to an edit page.

I don't understand.

 * It's because the link on Exchequer went to "Exchequer of Pleas", with a capital P, while the article had a lower-case p. I've created a redirect page from upper-case to lower-case.  Best wishes, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 16:33, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

P.S. Please sign your posts on talk pages like this one!

Can't move pages
In reference to #24, could it be possible to move Hangman's noose to Hangman's knot. When will we be able to move pages ourselves? --Jcmaco 22:18, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

 * Done. I'm not sure what the time scale is for getting the page move functionality.  It was removed for new users due to abuse by a vandalbot.  moink 22:21, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Thanks! --Jcmaco 22:32, Jul 14, 2004 (UTC)

Translating pages
I want to translate a page from German to English, ie Lebenswelt, a philosopical concept that exists in English but for which there is no English page. Can I just create it and translate? Should I write somewhere that that's what I did? Salasks 23:39, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * You may want to follow the instructions at Translation into English. There's not much there aside from documenting what you've done. -- Cyrius|✎ 13:17, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Downloading the database for integration into external software
I need to find the best/fastest way to download the text part of Wikipedia (excluding pictures)in order to integrate it into external software. What are my options? [an impressed newcomer] 11:00 15, Jul 2004

 * The entire database is available at http://download.wikimedia.org/ For more information, see Technical FAQ and Database download. -- Cyrius|✎ 13:13, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Offensive thread in 'Sandbox'
Just thought that I would let you know that you have an offensive thread in your 'Sandbox' link from the homepage. Even freedom of speech rights exclude shouting fire in a crowded theater, incitation of bringing harm upon federal institutions or officials, and of course acts of terrorism.

 * Well, the theory is that someone will quickly overwrite it. You're welcome to do so yourself, in fact we encourage it.  Thanks for the update, though.  best, [[User:Meelar|Meelar (talk)]] 19:23, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Redirect page not up-to-date
I'm having a problem with the Copa América 2004 page, or rather the redirect page at Copa America 2004. The latter is not displaying the most recent edition of the original article. Why is this? I've tried clearing my cache, but that does nothing to remedy the problem. I've noticed that although the Copa America 2004 page contains the code  #REDIRECT Copa América 2004 , the page does not have the "Redirected from..." subtitle, which I'm guessing has something to do with the issue.

 * This looks like it's working now. - DropDeadGorgias (talk) 14:33, Jul 19, 2004 (UTC)

Please move...
Subject: Fire bomber Should be: Fire Bomber

Sorry for the mistake, but moving is disabled right now and I'm off to sleep. Thanks to whoever does the move for me.

 * Done. You're welcome. :) -- Hadal 09:11, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Song Lyrics
I apologize if this question has been asked before, but I was wondering why Wikipedia doesn't have song lyrics? (or, I guess its possible that I'm just being totally blind and it does have song lyrics) While I could see the argument that they're legally protected or something, but there're a whole bunch of sites online that provide them, and it'd be nice to consolodate them onto Wikipedia (I think)

 * Because song lyrics are copyrighted and hosting them in quantity would get us shut down faster than you can say "lyrics.ch". We are a big target with obvious people to go after (namely Jimbo and the US board members). -- Cyrius|✎ 18:35, 16 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Not sure what it's called or how to do it...
How could I add something like the little box with Croatian counties at the bottom of the Zagreb page? I'd like to make one for cities in Bosnia.
 * It's called a template. I haven't used them much myself, but that page explains them, and I'm sure others can help you if you have problems.  Good luck, Isomorphic 01:08, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * See the quick guide to templates or the more detailed m:Help:Template page. Angela. 03:06, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Newbie growing pains: Votes for deletion page
I made a contribution on the votes for deletion page (july 17, "law of increasing returns" and it looks like I completely fubbed it up, and I don't know how to fix it. I copied another article title for deletion, changed the article name to mine, and saved it with my comments.  Everything worked fine except the "Add to this discussion" part, which was red.  I tried several things to fix it, and made it much worse than it originally was (I also accidentally created a new wikipage which will need to be deleted.)  Please let me know how it can be fixed.  Thanks!   Ionesco 03:38, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

about data control language
could anyone explain me what is data control language

No caching of templates?
In a discussion about templates, I was told, "Requiring a database query everytime a few characters of html would suffice is wasteful." Does Mediawiki really look up the expansion for a template every time it comes across one? It should be very simple to cache the expansions. --Eequor 05:53, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Template limit
Why is each template used on a page limited to five occurrences? --Eequor 05:53, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Basically, to prevent a DOS attack. According to Tim Starling's comments in Parser.php, "Without countermeasures, it would be possible to attack the parser by saving a page filled with a large number of inclusions of large pages. The size of the generated page would be proportional to the square of the input size. Hence, we limit the number of inclusions of any given page, thus bringing any attack back to O(N)."

 * Angela. 10:16, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Limiting the number of a particular template is no solution. It would be much more effective to limit the size of the generated page to 32k or twice the size of the unexpanded page, whichever is larger.  What is to stop an anonymous user from creating megabyte-sized templates for each letter of the alphabet?  --Eequor 21:24, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * It isn't even necessary to upload 26M of templates, given that templates follow redirects. --Eequor 21:28, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * You ought to be far more worried that somebody will do this:

v

Template loop detected: Template:Z

 * --Eequor 21:50, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Aircraft - historical - existing
I've just been looking at some info on historical aircraft. Info (as far as it went) is fine - but I would like to know where (if anywhere) I could see any aircraft that still exist - links to museum sites etc. Could this be done ? (And, yes, I am willing to help as much as I can.....)

Keith F
 * For historically significant American aircraft, nothing beats the Smithsonian Air and Space Musuem. They have the Enola Gay, Lingberg's flyer, and I think the Wright brother's plane too.
 * For different kinds of aircraft, I believe the US airforce runs a musuem in Kentuncky or Tennessee. →Raul654 16:00, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC)

 * The National Museum of the United States Air Force is at Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton, Ohio. It's home of the surviving XB-70 Valkyrie. A link to the site is in the article. -- Cyrius|✎ 16:15, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I meant on the appropriate page... I looked up Martinet - I know there's one in the Museum of Berkshire Aviation. I think it would be useful if all the entries for different aircraft had where one could see surviving examples (if any). I'm aware of the USAF museum etc (and, for that matter the RAF Museum, Hendon). I'm also aware of several hundred other museums that have aircraft... but that doesn't help me pinpoint where I can see XXX - where XXX is an aircraft I've looked up....

Keith F

Help with a WikiPipe table please
All the Cambridge colleges have a table with a few 'vital stats' about the college e.g Queens'. I'm trying to add a nested table to one of the cells that has the college colours.

I've done a mock up here. On the left is the table in html as I want it, and on the right is the wikipipe version which I can't get quite right.

In both cases I've tried to nest a table in the third row which will contain all the college colours, but I can't get the cell border between the image and the nested table in the wikipipe version. I've tried adding |- between the two but that just screws it up.

Any help would be appreciated.--Prisonblues 18:48, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * I think I've fixed it, if you want to check. A good way to cheat with tables, if you already have the html, is to use this html to wiki converter. - 19:21, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC) Lee (talk)

Thanks Lee --Prisonblues 22:57, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Image uploading
main problem is that whenever I upload an Image, it always ends up as little white square with a red cross in it. I can still access the file and put it in articals, but the image i want is never there, just the red cross. Any idea why? Cheers.

--Crestville 09:55, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * Can you give an example? Have you tried pressing Ctrl and F5 to refresh the page? This often solves image problems. Angela. 22:05, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Where do I find a list of double-curly-brace messages?
I found the 'all system messages' special page, but they are not there?

Thanks—quota

 * See Template messages, Navigational templates and Wikipedia:Template messages:Quick reference. Angela. 22:05, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wrapping in floating table
There's a small problem with the floating table on the Oxford and Cambridge University pages, where the text on the right doesn't wrap properly and just goes off the right edge of the page. Can't figure out what the problem is, anyone? --Prisonblues 22:51, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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