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Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight, often simply called Legends of the Dark Knight, is the name of several DC comic books featuring Batman. The original series launched in 1989 as the third major monthly Batman title, following the popularity of Tim Burton's 1989 film Batman. Many of the stories follow the tone of Frank Miller's Batman: Year One. The series differed from other Batman titles of the time. The creative team rotated with every story arc and the stories stood alone, unlike the inter-connected nature of other Batman comics. Initially the title ran stories contained to five issues, often with more mature topics and sensibilities than the other Batman titles. After issue #20, the number of issues for each story began to vary and occasionally tied into crossover events.

Most stories in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight are set early in Batman's career, although a few are set in the present and even the future. Stories set early in Batman's career are commonly referred to as "Year One" stories, loosely meaning Bruce Wayne's first several years of crimefighting as Batman. Stories in the title were initially only from before Robin, but Dick Grayson began appearing sporadically in later issues. The series, for the most part, eschewed appearances by other DC Universe superheroes and focused on Batman and his closest partners Alfred Pennyworth, Commissioner Gordon, and Batman's rogues gallery.

The title was discontinued with issue #214 (March 2007) and replaced with a new Batman anthology series, Batman Confidential, which focuses on more personal events in Batman's life (first encounters, building of new technology, etc.), rather than early crime-fighting tales.

Some of the creative talent who have worked on the series include Chuck Dixon, Alan Grant, Archie Goodwin, Dennis O'Neil, Dwayne McDuffie, Doug Moench, Grant Morrison, Mike Mignola, Bill Willingham, Matt Wagner and Marshall Rogers.

In 2012, DC Comics revived the series as Legends of the Dark Knight, a digital-first weekly series. The series was similarly composed of self-contained stories with revolving creative teams. The first issue, "The Butler Did It", by Damon Lindelof and Jeff Lemire, debuted in June 2012.

Volume 1 (1989–2007)
The original series was published as issues #1–214 from 1989 to 2007. Seven Annuals were also published.

Three one-issue Halloween specials, Fears, Madness and Ghosts, a fourth one-issue special based on the Knightfall story arc, Mitefall and one three-issue miniseries, Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight - Jazz, were also published under the Legends of the Dark Knight banner.

Volume 2 (2012–2015)
The second volume was published in 88 weekly "digital-first" installments and subsequently collected as Legends of the Dark Knight #1-13 and Legends of the Dark Knight 100-Page Super Spectacular #1-5. The entire series was collected in five trade paperback volumes.

Hardcover collection series (2011–present)
In 2011, DC began publishing some of its premium hardcover collections under Legends of the Dark Knight banner. These volumes focus on historically significant Batman creators (the companion volumes were branded as Tales of the Batman).

 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Jim Aparo Volume 1 (2012)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Jim Aparo Volume 2 (2013)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Jim Aparo Volume 3 (2017)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Norm Breyfogle Volume 1 (2015)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Norm Breyfogle Volume 2 (2018)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Alan Davis Volume 1 (2012)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: José Luis García-López (2023)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Michael Golden (2019)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Marshall Rogers (2011)
 * Legends of the Dark Knight: Matt Wagner (2020)

1989–2007 series
By Dennis O'Neil, Ed Hannigan, and John Beatty
 * Shaman (#1–5)

Bruce Wayne and a bounty hunter climb a mountain in Alaska as they try to capture a murderer named Thomas Woodley. Woodley quickly manages to kill the bounty hunter before falling off the cliff after a small fight with Wayne. Wayne's supplies are lost with Woodley, which nearly results in Wayne's death when a Native American with her grandfather discover him. The grandfather is able to save Wayne's life by taking Wayne to his cabin and tells him a story on how the Bat gained its wings, while wearing a mask of a bat. After he recuperates and leaves, Wayne is warned by the granddaughter never to tell anyone the story.

Upon his return to Gotham City shortly after, Wayne attempts to fight crime, but fails miserably. That night after he fails, a bat flies into the room and reminds Wayne of the Native American's story from years earlier and so he decides to create a costume for himself and become Batman.

Note: Legend of the Dark Knight #1 (the first issue of the "Shaman" storyline) was printed with several different colored covers as collector's items.

 * Gothic (#6–10)

By Grant Morrison and Klaus Janson

A man known as "Mr. Whisper" is killing off mob bosses one by one. The mobsters explain to Batman that he was a child killer over 30 years ago, and (similar to the film M) the mobsters had found and killed him when there was too much pressure from the cops over them. At the same time, Batman's investigation links Mr. Whisper with a hideous event in Bruce Wayne's school days, a bargain reminiscent of Don Giovanni, and the Gotham City Cathedral.

Note: Grant Morrison's second Batman story and first non-graphic novel Batman story.

 * Prey (#11–15)

By Doug Moench, Paul Gulacy, and Terry Austin

Batman must contend with the brilliant but deranged psychiatrist Hugo Strange, who foments a massive smear campaign against him and attempts to uncover his secret identity.

Note: Retells the second meeting, in Post-Crisis continuity, between Batman and Hugo Strange (the first meeting would be told, years later, in  Dark Moon Rising: Batman and the Monster Men).

By Dennis O'Neil, Russell Braun, Trevor Von Eeden, and José Luis García-López
 * Venom (#16–20)

When Batman fails to save the life of a young girl held for ransom, he decides to try a new experimental steroid-drug designed by her father called Venom.

Note: First appearance of the "Venom" drug-steroid, later used by Bane. First Legends of the Dark Knight story to be referenced in-canon in the main Batman titles during Knightfall.

By Mike W. Barr, Bart Sears, and Randy Elliott
 * Faith (#21–23)

A drug addict is rescued from a fatal beating by Batman, which inspires him to organize a group of neighborhood vigilantes to take up Batman's cause. However, his addled dreams convince him that he must supplant Batman. Meanwhile, Dr. Leslie Thompkins discovers Bruce Wayne's secret identity.

Note: Tells the previously-unseen story of Leslie Thompkins discovering that Bruce Wayne is Batman. Also, it is the first Legends of the Dark Knight story to not consist of the original five issue one story format.

By Howard Chaykin and Gil Kane
 * Flyer (#24–26)

One of the officers who was injured during the siege against Batman in Batman: Year One resurfaces in a mechanized combat suit, targeting Batman for death.

Note: An unofficial sequel to Batman: Year One.

By Dennis O'Neil, Chris Sprouse, and Bruce Patterson
 * Destroyer (Part 2 of 3) (#27)

A miscreant is blowing up Gotham's newer buildings which, according to him, have overshadowed the old Gotham and his destruction leads to Art.

Note: Part of a three-part crossover involving Legends of the Dark Knight, Batman, and Detective Comics. First issue of the series to be set in the then-present day continuity and the first issue to crossover with the other Batman titles.

By Matt Wagner
 * Faces (#28–30)

Two-Face takes over a small island with plans to create a society in his own scarred image.

By James D. Hudnall and Brent Anderson
 * Family (#31)

After Bruce forces Alfred to take a vacation to Corto Maltese, he must rescue him from kidnappers.

Note: First regular DC Universe appearance of the island nation of Corto Maltese, which was introduced in the pages of the out-of-continuity Batman: The Dark Knight Returns miniseries.

By James Robinson and Tim Sale
 * Blades (#32–34)

While Batman is distracted with a serial killer who targets senior citizens, a new vigilante, the swashbuckling Cavalier, begins his own war on crime.

Note: The Cavalier who appears in the story is a new character, previously never seen before, and has no ties with the more commonly known version of the character.

By Bo Hampton and Mark Kneece
 * Destiny (#35–36)

Batman meets another costumed vigilante from Norway who dresses like a Viking, and learns an ancient tale of a Norse hero known as the Bat Man.

By Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning, and Colin MacNeil
 * Mercy (#37)

In his early days, Batman trained a female rookie cop, Mercedes "Mercy" Stone, to fight in hand-to-hand combat. Five years later, he must rescue her from a pit-fighting ring.

By Alan Grant and Kevin O'Neill
 * Legend of the Dark Mite (#38)

A junkie criminal turned Arkham Asylum inmate, Bob Overdog, claims that the events leading up to his imprisonment were orchestrated by an imp from another dimension (the titular Bat-Mite) who idolizes and attempts to emulate Batman.

Note: The first Post-Crisis appearance of Bat-Mite.

By Bryan Talbot
 * Mask (#39–40)

Batman wakes up in a hospital bed surrounded by doctors who tell him that he is an alcoholic tramp who dresses in a batsuit made of garbage. He wonders whether it is some sort of hallucination, or is his life as Batman the real illusion.

By Tom Joyner, Keith S. Wilson, and Jim Fern
 * Sunset (#41)

While fleeing the police, Batman encounters an actress-turned-vampire who was thought to have died 40 years ago and Batman is hypnotized into doing her will.

Note: Inspired by early Batman stories involving Batman facing vampires in the 1930s. The plotline also deliberately parallels the classic film Sunset Boulevard.

By John Francis Moore and P. Craig Russell
 * Hothouse (#42–43)

Pamela Isley is out of the asylum after her first encounter with Batman. But when one of her colleagues dies under mysterious circumstances, her rehabilitation is called into question.

Note: First story to feature Poison Ivy attempting to reform. It was later loosely adapted into the Batman: The Animated Series episode "House and Garden".

By Steven Grant and Shawn McManus
 * Turf (#44–45)

Batman and Captain James Gordon go after racist cops who are brutalizing and murdering African Americans.

By Doug Moench and Russ Heath
 * Heat (#46–49)

When Thomas Blake starts murdering young women, Batman and Catwoman form an uneasy alliance to stop him.

Note: The story features an alternate origin/take on the Catman, portraying him as a serial killer driven by memories of an abusive mother. The story was one of several Batman/Catwoman stories that were officially declared non-canon following the events of Zero Hour.

By Dennis O'Neil and Bret Blevins
 * Images (#50)

A young Batman meets his match when he encounters a murderous villain known as the Joker.

Note: The story is a retelling of the first encounter between Batman and the Joker, from Batman #1, with elements from Batman: Year One added as part of the retelling.

By Robert Loren Fleming and David G. Klein
 * Snitch (#51)

A highly skilled hitman whose rule is to only fire a single shot targets Batman and Gotham's other defender, the Ragman.

By Alan Grant and Arthur Ranson
 * Tao (#52–53)

A man from Batman's past comes to Gotham seeking vengeance.

By Dan Raspler and Mike Mignola
 * Sanctum (#54)

While hunting a serial killer, Batman discovers an undead man who attempts to kill him in order to live again.

By Chuck Dixon and Mike McMahon
 * Watchtower (#55–57)

A tale of an alternate future Batman.

By Andrew Donkin, Graham Brand, and John Higgins
 * Storm (#58)

A foreign diplomat whose country is guilty of violating human rights is targeted by a group of terrorists.

 * Quarry (#59–61)

By Dennis O'Neil, Ron Wagner, Eduardo Barreto, and Ron McCain

Bruce Wayne, confined to a wheelchair after having his back broken by Bane, attempts to rescue Jack Drake and Shondra Kinsolving from Shondra's evil brother, the Asp.

Note: Set in the then-present day continuity of the Batman titles and a part of the "Knightquest: The Search" crossover.

 * KnightsEnd (#62–63)

By Chuck Dixon, Barry Kitson, Ron Wagner, and Ron McCain

Bruce Wayne returns to Gotham to reclaim the mantle of Batman from an out-of-control Azrael. To combat Azrael, Bruce makes a dangerous alliance with Lady Shiva to train him to fight the assassin.

Note: Set in the then-present day continuity and a part of the "KnightsEnd" crossover.

By Jamie Delano, Chris Bachalo, and Mark Pennington
 * Terminus (#64)

Batman tracks a drug addict to a hotel filled with lost souls.

By J. M. DeMatteis, Joe Staton, and Steve Mitchell
 * Going Sane (#65–68)

When the Joker traps Batman in an explosion, he believes that he is finally rid of his arch-foe. As a result, his insane mind returns to sanity and the Ace of Knaves forgets his bloodstained past, starting a new life as the average citizen "Joseph Kerr". Batman, however, is still alive, and his return to Gotham means the end to the Joker's newfound happiness.

Note: The plot for this story had originally been submitted to DC by J. M. DeMatteis in the mid-1980s, but was rejected because it was too similar to another Batman story in production at that time, Batman: The Killing Joke. DeMatteis reworked the original draft into the Spider-Man storyline "Kraven's Last Hunt".

By Steven Grant and Mike Zeck
 * Criminals (#69–70)

Batman goes undercover as a prison inmate.

By James Robinson and John Watkiss
 * Werewolf (#71–73)

A series of murders connected to Wayne Enterprises leads Batman to London. While there, he discovers a supernatural mystery.

By Ted McKeever
 * Engines (#74–75)

A story told from the perspective of Gotham's newest serial killer, a slaughterhouse employee who covets the aging and decaying process.

By Scott Hampton
 * Sleeping (#76–78)

When a car accident leaves Bruce Wayne comatose, Batman must travel through the Underworld back to the land of the living. On the way, Batman meets another coma victim in need of assistance. Before returning to the real world, he must unravel the connection between himself and his evil "soul twin", all while being pursued by an Underworld demon.

By Mark Millar, Steve Yeowell, and Dick Giordano
 * Favorite Things (#79)

On Christmas Eve, Batman combs the city for a gang known as "the Chessmen", who have been stealing presents from a multitude of wealthy households, including Wayne Manor.

By James Vance, Dougie Braithwaite, and Sean Hardy
 * Idols (#80–82)

A new boutique is cashing in on the Bat-craze sweeping Gotham. Captain Gordon must cooperate with the FBI when a serial killer strikes in Gotham. Meanwhile, Batman is on the trail of a copycat vigilante in a bat-mask, while trying to stop the violence his publicity might cause.

By Warren Ellis and John McCrea
 * Infected (#83–84)

Two escaped super-soldier experiments wreak havoc in Gotham. Batman intervenes, as all of Gotham might be the next victim.

By James Robinson and Tony Salmons
 * Citadel (#85)

Batman ascends a heavily guarded tower, laced with death traps, to reach his quarry on the top floor.

By Doug Moench, J. H. Williams III, and Mick Gray
 * Conspiracy (#86–88)

A series of ritual murders in Gotham leads Batman to Los Angeles. As the stakes get higher, Batman and a new ally work together to unravel a conspiracy that reaches from drug-peddling biker gangs to the CIA and a mysterious religious order.

By Alan Grant and Quique Alcatena
 * Clay (#89–90)

Batman faces his slipperiest foe to date in the form of the new Clayface, Matt Hagen.

Notes: A retelling of the story "The Challenge of Clay-Face" in Detective Comics #298.

By Garth Ennis and Will Simpson
 * Freakout (#91–93)

Batman investigates a new designer drug, an enhanced form of LSD.

By Michael T. Gilbert
 * Stories (#94)

A writer by the name of Saul Fisher finds himself the target of an assassination attempt by a group of religious fundamentalists known as "the Enlightened". As a result, Fisher finds himself trapped in a powerless elevator, panicking as the gunmen get closer. To help calm him, the elevator's other passengers, from an aged Julie Madison to a retired policeman and his grandson, share with him tales of their encounters with Batman.

Note: This story features homages to the Batman of the Golden Age, Silver Age, Bronze Age, and Dark Age. It was later adapted (with different framing sequences/stories) for Batman: The Animated Series as "Legends of the Dark Knight".

By Dan Abnett, Andy Lanning, and Anthony Williams
 * Dirty Tricks (#95–97)

An assassin known as the Magician, who seems unstoppable, is in Gotham. Bruce Wayne ran across him in Eastern Europe before becoming Batman and barely survived.

By Paul Jenkins and Sean Phillips
 * Steps (#98–99)

Batman must track down a new serial killer on the street who murders prostitutes with a crossbow, with the only witness to the case an autistic teenager.

By Dennis O'Neil and Dave Taylor
 * Choices (#100)

When a married acrobatic couple are killed during a performance, Batman adopts their son, Dick, and trains him to become his sidekick, Robin the Boy Wonder.

Note: A retelling of the origin of the first Robin (Dick Grayson) from Detective Comics #38.

By John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra
 * The Incredible Adventures of Batman (#101)

In 2099, Batman has become a figure of legend. A vigilante is inspired to imitate Batman, obtaining his costume from the recently closed Museum of Gotham.

By James Robinson and Paul Johnson
 * Spook (#102–104)

The Modern Age debut of the supervillain known as the Spook. Bruce Wayne attends a weekend business retreat at a secluded ski resort. When the power goes out and one of the guests winds up dead, Bruce switches into Batman mode. The Dark Knight fights the Spook and his henchman Darwin. Eventually, the Spook blows up the house, sending the few survivors fleeing on a private jet. When the Spook shows up aboard the plane, Batman fights him again, but the new villain disappears. Batman then exposes one of the survivors as the Spook's accomplice.

By C.J. Henderson, Trevor Von Eeden, and Josef Rubenstein
 * Duty (#105–106)

When the Joker is broken out of Arkham by a terrorist group while Batman is working on a case in the Middle East, Captain James Gordon and Sergeant Harvey Bullock must find a way to stop the madman without the help of the Caped Crusader.

Note: This story is set in the days before Gordon achieved the rank of police commissioner and Bullock the rank of detective. In addition, Batman does not appear in a single panel of the story.

By Lee Marrs and Eddy Newell
 * Stalking (#107–108)

By Steve Englehart, Dusty Abell, and Drew Geraci
 * The Primal Riddle (#109–111)

A battle with the Riddler results in Batman being badly electrocuted, resulting in a near death experience that separates his "spirit" from his body. As the soulless Batman struggles to foil the Riddler's latest scheme, his "spirit" wanders around Gotham possessing a wide variety of "hosts", from a small boy to the Riddler himself.

By Dan Vado, Norman Felchle, and Frank Cirocco
 * Shipwreck (#112–113)

After Batman foils a group of mercenaries in their attempt to free an imprisoned national, the group attempts to hold a cruise ship full of wealthy Gothamites hostage. Batman must fight his way through the bowels of the ship to confront the mercenary leader and save the passengers.

By James Robinson, Dan Brereton, and Tim Bradstreet
 * Playground (#114)

Batman makes the foolish mistake of blindly confronting a professional mob assassin from Chicago on the latter's home turf, resulting in him suffering multiple wounds and becoming trapped in the slums of the Windy City. A cat-and-mouse game with the assassin ensues, as the Dark Knight struggles, and interacts, with the homeless men and women that populate the slums.

By Darren Vincenzo and Luke McDonnell
 * The Darkness (#115)

 * No Man's Land (#116–126)

Following a devastating earthquake and the manipulations of Lex Luthor, Gotham City is disowned by the United States government. Batman and his allies must try to keep what is left of civilization intact in the madness, while solving the mystery of who the new Batgirl is.

Note: For the course of nearly an entire year (11 issues) Legends of the Dark Knight abandoned its anthology format and became a regular continuity Batman book, crossing over with its fellow Batman titles (Batman, Detective Comics and Shadow of the Bat) and spin-offs (Azrael, Catwoman, Robin, and Nightwing) for the duration of the No Man's Land storyline.

By Dennis O'Neil, Sergio Cariello, and Matt Ryan
 * The Arrow and the Bat (#127–131)

By Archie Goodwin, James Robinson Marshall Rogers, and Bob Wiacek
 * Siege (#132–136)

Silver St. Cloud and an aging mercenary with ties to Bruce's grandfather return to Gotham as the mercenary and his allies attempt to destroy Wayne Manor and Gotham City.

Note: The story is set during the timeframe in which Bruce Wayne and Alfred Pennyworth lived in a downtown penthouse, instead of Wayne Manor. The story is also one of the final stories written by Archie Goodwin before his death.

By Doug Moench, Paul Gulacy, and Jimmy Palmiotti
 * Terror (#137–141)

Professor Hugo Strange resurfaces and breaks Dr. Jonathan Crane (the Scarecrow) out of Arkham Asylum to terrorize Batman and Catwoman. Strange enhances Crane's fear toxin with a hallucinogen and gives him a subconscious hatred of Batman, in addition to a "haunted" house as a base of operations.

Note: A spiritual sequel to the earlier Moench Legends of the Dark Knight story "Prey".

By Chuck Dixon, Jim Aparo, and John Cebollero
 * The Demon Laughs (#142–145)

Ra's al Ghul recruits the Joker in his latest scheme to kill off 95% of the world's population and the Ace of Knaves is all too happy to accept. An attempted double-crossing on the Joker's part, however, results in him being gunned down by Ra's' followers, and if Batman is to have a hope of stopping Ra's from spreading the Joker's virus, he must save the life of his deadliest foe.

Note: Elements from this story, in particular the Joker being recruited by Ra's al Ghul, were later used in the animated film Batman: Under the Red Hood, instead of the plot from "A Death in the Family", to explain how the Joker killed Jason Todd.

By Doug Moench and Barry Kitson
 * Bad (#146–148)

By J. M. DeMatteis, Trevor Von Eeden, and José Luis García-López
 * Grimm (#149–153)

By Mike Baron and Bill Reinhold
 * Colossus (#154–155)

By Dwayne McDuffie, Val Semeiks, and Dan Green
 * Blink (#156–158)

Batman teams up with a man who can see through the eyes of others in order to track down the leader of an underground snuff film ring.

By John Ostrander, David Lopez, and Dan Green
 * Loyalties (#159–161)

Captain James Gordon has been kidnapped and brought back to his hometown of Chicago to be tortured into revealing the name of the last surviving eyewitness to a grisly murder. That witness was his young niece, Barbara.

By John Arcudi and Roger Langridge
 * Auteurism (#162–163)

The Joker, deeming Gotham's newspapers inadequate to represent his "true self", enlists the help of Buddy Kantor, a highly eccentric comedian/filmmaker, to chronicle his exploits. In the end, however, Buddy's inflated ego and tenuous grasp on reality may prove to be too much even for the Clown Prince of Crime.

By Dwayne McDuffie, Val Semeiks, and Dan Green
 * Don't Blink (#164–167)

By Bill Willingham and Tom Fowler
 * Urban Legend (#168)

By Tom Peyer, Tony Harris, and Wade von Grawbadger
 * Irresistible (#169–171)

By John Wagner and Chris Brunner
 * Testament (#172–176)

By Devin Grayson, Jean-Jacques Dzialowski, and George Rodriguez
 * Lost Cargo (#177–178)

By A. J. Lieberman and Greg Scott
 * Full Circle (#179)

By Dylan Horrocks, Ramon Bachs, and Jon Holdredge
 * The Secret City (#180–181)

Oracle enters a virtual world to investigate a series of murders.

 * War Games (#182–184)

Stephanie Brown and Orpheus are savagely murdered by the returning Black Mask, when a violent gang war erupts within Gotham.

Note: As it was with "No Man's Land", Legends of the Dark Knight stepped away from the usual self-contained story-arc structure for a few issues to cross over with the other Batman books for the War Games storyline.

By Shane McCarthy, Tommy Castillo, and Rodney Ramos
 * Riddle Me That (#185–189)

By J. Torres, David Lopez, and Fernando Blanco
 * Cold Snap (#190–191)

Mr. Freeze is acting strangely and Batman fears he may be preparing for suicide.

By J. H. Williams III, Dan Curtis Johnson, and Seth Fisher
 * Snow (#192–196)

When Captain Gordon refuses to give him access to GCPD files on a major criminal, Batman takes things into his own hands and assembles a private team of investigators. At the same time, researcher Victor Fries suffers tragedy and goes on a rampage against his employers.

Note: A retelling of the origin of Mr. Freeze, using the origin established for the character in Batman: The Animated Series.

By Will Pfeifer and Chris Weston
 * Blaze of Glory (#197–199)

By Eddie Campbell, Daren White, and Bart Sears
 * Emergency (#200)

During his latest battle with Batman, the Joker is inadvertently exposed to his own Joker venom.

By Christos N. Gage, Ron Wagner, and Bill Reinhold
 * Cold Case (#201–203)

By Justin Gray and Steven Cummings
 * Madmen of Gotham (#204–206)

By Bruce Jones and Ariel Olivetti
 * Darker than Death (#207–211)

By Adam Beechen, Steve Scott, and Nathan Massengill
 * Chicks Dig the Bat (#212)

A socially awkward high school student gets more than he bargained for when he invites a date to watch Batman from a local rooftop.

By Matt Wayne and Steven Cummings
 * Otaku (#213)

The murder of a black market dealer who specializes in authentic Batman-related memorabilia (lost Batarangs, cowls, etc.) leads Batman to Akihabara, where he must comb the Electric City's various themed establishments to find a Yakuza leader that has a rather disturbing fetish for costumed heroes.

By Christos N. Gage and Phil Winslade
 * Superstitious and Cowardly (#214)

Famed assassin Deadshot returns to Gotham, following the events of Infinity Crisis, to kill a witness who is set to testify against a corrupt businessman. Knowing of his recent heroic actions during the crossover as part of the Secret Six, Batman must find a way to convince Deadshot to abandon the contract to kill the witness.

 * Viewpoint (#0)

A preview of upcoming stories published during the Post-Zero Hour "Zero Month" event.

Note: Vince Giarrano produced the framing sequences between the previews. Two of the preview stories featured here were never published.

By Dennis O'Neil, Jim Aparo, Keith Giffen, Malcolm Jones III, Joe Quesada, Josef Rubenstein, Tom Lyle, Ty Templeton Dan Spiegle, James Blackburn, and Michael Golden; cover artist: Mike Mignola
 * Duel (Annual #1)

Batman has illusions about the metaphorical "burden" he has to carry.

By Dennis O'Neil, Michael Netzer, and Luke McDonnell
 * Vows (Annual #2)

By Dennis O'Neil, Mike Manley, Luke McDonnell, Gray Morrow, and Ricardo Villagran
 * Transformation (Annual #3)

Azrael, who is replacing the injured Bruce Wayne as Batman, must help a disillusioned priest who has recently gained superpowers fight an army of alien creatures feeding on humans in Gotham.

Notes: Part of the 1993 "Bloodlines" DC Annual crossover.

By Brian Augustyn, Mark Waid, Joe Staton, and Horacio Ottolini
 * Citizen Wayne (Annual #4)

Note: Part of the 1994 Elseworlds Annual event, featuring DC characters in various Elseworlds scenarios.

By Chuck Dixon and Quique Alcatena
 * Wings (Annual #5)

Batman and the Man-Bat's first encounter is retold through the point-of-view of the Man-Bat.

Note: Part of the 1995 "Year One" banner event involving that year's DC Annuals. Features a retelling of the origin of the Man-Bat, originally from Detective Comics #400.

By Alan Grant, Barry Kitson, and Vince Giarrano
 * Executioner (Annual #6)

By James Robinson, Steve Yeowell, and Russ Heath
 * I Am A Gun (Annual #7)

2012–2015 series
By Damon Lindelof and Jeff Lemire
 * The Butler Did It (#1)

By Jonathan Larsen and J.G. Jones
 * All of the Above (#1)

By Tom Taylor and Nicola Scott
 * The Crime Never Committed (#1)

By B. Clay Moore and Ben Templesmith
 * Crisis in Identity (#2)

By Steve Niles and Trevor Hairsine
 * Letters to Batman (#3)

By T. J. Fixman and Christopher Mitten
 * A Game to Die for (#4)

By Andrew Dabb and Giorgio Pontrelli
 * Batman: The Movie (#4)

By Jonathan Larsen and Tan Eng Huat
 * Together (#4)

By Joshua Hale Fialkov and Phil Hester
 * Slam! (#5)

By Jeff Parker and Gabriel Hardman
 * Gotham Spirit (#6)

By Michael Avon Oeming
 * Dungeons and Dragons (#6)

By Rob Williams and Juan Jose Ryp
 * Look Inside (#6)

By Joe Harris and Jason Masters
 * Haunted Arkham (#7)

Continuity
Technically, most of the stories in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight are in the accepted Batman continuity, albeit with a number of exceptions. These include stories set in the year 3000, Batman being a cyborg, certain Joker or Clayface stories that just do not fit chronologically and many more. Many of the stories share a lot of elements with the regular Batman and Detective Comics and have often been referenced in modern continuity, notably Leslie Thompkins' discovery of Batman's identity, the origin of Bane's drug Venom, the characterization of Hugo Strange, the origin of the Batcave, and others. Whereas most comic book titles move forward chronologically, Legends tells stories in random order, mainly focusing on Years One through Five, but sometimes including canonical stories after that time as well. Batman Confidential was a series with which the original Legends utilized a similar literary format.

DC has stated that the stories released between 2012-2015 are not set in the current Batman continuity. However, over the years several issues from this series, such as "Dr. Quinn's Diagnosis", had been integrated and collected as part of the canon Batman mythos.

Specials
In the 1990s, writer Jeph Loeb and artist Tim Sale collaborated on three Halloween specials collected as Batman: Haunted Knight that led them to create Batman: The Long Halloween as stated in the introduction to the book by Jeph Loeb. The three specials are titled "Fears" (1993), "Madness" (1994) and "Ghosts" (1995). In the third and last one, based on Charles Dickens' novel A Christmas Carol, Bruce is visited by three spirits on Halloween, that of Poison Ivy (the Spirit of Halloween Past), the Joker (the Spirit of Halloween Present), and a cloaked, skeletal version of Batman (the Spirit of Halloween Yet To Come). Having been immersed so much in stopping crime for nearly two years (the time being Year Two in which the story takes place), Bruce undergoes a change, much like Ebenezer Scrooge, in which he is reminded what it is to be human.

Another special released was Batman: Jazz (1995), a three-issue miniseries written by Gerard Jones and Mark Badger.

Crossover issues

 * Destroyer - #27
 * Knightquest - #59-61
 * KnightsEnd - #62-63
 * No Man's Land - #116-126
 * War Games - #182-184

Writers

 * Dennis O'Neil (#1-5, 16-20, 27, 50, 59-61, 63, 100, 127-131, Annual #1-3)
 * Grant Morrison (#6-10)
 * Doug Moench (#11-15, 46-49, 86-88, 137-141, 146-148)
 * Mike W. Barr (#21-23)
 * Howard Chaykin (#24-26)
 * Matt Wagner (#28-30)
 * James Hudnall (#31)
 * James Robinson (#32-34, 71-73, 85, 102-104, 114, Annual #7)
 * Bo Hampton & Mark Kneece (#35-36)
 * Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning (#37, 95-97)
 * Alan Grant (#38, 52-53, 89-90, Annual #6)
 * Bryan Talbot (#39-40)
 * Tom Joyner (#41)
 * John Francis Moore (#42-43)
 * Steven Grant (#44-45, 69-70)
 * Robert Loren Fleming (#51)
 * Mike Mignola (#54)
 * Chuck Dixon (#55–57, 62, 124, 142–145, Annual #5)
 * Graham Brand (#58)
 * Jamie Delano (#64)
 * J. M. DeMatteis (#65-68, 149-153)
 * Ted McKeever (#74-75)
 * Scott Hampton (#76-78)
 * Mark Millar (#79)
 * James Vance (#80-82)
 * Warren Ellis (#83-84)
 * Garth Ennis (#91-93)
 * Michael T. Gilbert (#94)
 * Paul Jenkins (#98–99)
 * C.J. Henderson (#105-106)
 * Archie Goodwin (#0, 132-136)
 * Dwayne McDuffie (#156-158, 164-167)
 * Bill Willingham (#168)
 * Lee Marrs (#107–108)
 * Steve Englehart (#109–111)
 * Dan Vado (#112–113)
 * Darren Vincenzo (#115)
 * Mike Baron (#154-155)
 * John Ostrander (#159-161)
 * John Arcudi (#152-153)
 * Tom Peyer (#169-171)
 * John Wagner (#101, 172-176)
 * Devin K. Grayson (#177-178)
 * A. J. Lieberman (#179)
 * Dylan Horrocks (#180-181)
 * Shane McCarthy (#185-189)
 * J. Torres (#190-191)
 * Dan Curtis Johnson (#192-196)
 * Will Pfeifer (#197-199)
 * Eddie Campbell (#200)
 * Christos Gage (#201-203, 214)
 * Justin Gray (#204-206)
 * Bruce Jones (#207-211)
 * Adam Beechen (#212)
 * Matt Wayne (#213)

Artists

 * Ed Hannigan (#1-5)
 * Klaus Janson (#6-10)
 * Paul Gulacy (#11-15, 137-141)
 * Trevor Von Eeden (#16-20, 105-106, 149-153)
 * Bart Sears (#21-23)
 * Gil Kane (#24-26)
 * Chris Sprouse (#27)
 * Matt Wagner (28-30)
 * Brent Anderson (#31)
 * Tim Sale (#32-34)
 * Bo Hampton (#35-36)
 * Colin MacNeil (#37)
 * Kevin O'Neill (#38)
 * Bryan Talbot (#39-40)
 * Keith S. Wilson (#41)
 * P. Craig Russell (#42-43)
 * Shawn McManus (#44-45)
 * Russ Heath (#46-49)
 * Bret Blevins (#50)
 * David G. Klein (#51)
 * Arthur Ranson (#52-53)
 * Mike Mignola (#54)
 * Mike McMahon (#55-57)
 * John Higgins (#58)
 * Chris Bachalo (#64)
 * Joe Staton (#65-68)
 * Mike Zeck (#69-70)
 * John Watkiss (#71-73)
 * Ted McKeever (#74-75)
 * Scott Hampton (#76-78)
 * Steve Yeowell (#79)
 * Doug Braithwaite (#80-82)
 * John McCrea (#83-84)
 * Tony Salmons (#85)
 * J. H. Williams III (#86-88, 192-196)
 * Quique Alcatena (#89-90)
 * Will Simpson (#91-93)
 * Michael T. Gilbert (#94)
 * Anthony Williams (#95-97)
 * Sean Phillips (#98-99)
 * Dave Taylor (#100)
 * Carlos Ezquerra (#101)
 * Paul Johnson (#102-104)
 * Eddy Newell (#107-108)
 * Dusty Abell (#109-111)
 * Norman Felchle (#112-113)
 * Dan Brereton (#114)
 * Luke McDonnell (#115)
 * Sergio Cariello (#127-131)
 * Marshall Rogers (#132-136)
 * Jim Aparo (#142-145)
 * Barry Kitson (#146-148)
 * Bill Reinhold (#154-155)
 * Val Semeiks (#156-158, 164-167)
 * David Lopez (#159-161, 190-191)
 * Roger Langridge (#162-163)
 * Tom Fowler (#168)
 * Tony Harris (#169-171)
 * Chris Brunner (#172-176)
 * Jean-Jacques Dzialowski (#177-178)
 * Greg Scott (#179)
 * Ramon Bachs (#180-181)
 * Tommy Castillo (#185-189)
 * Chris Weston (#197-199)
 * Ron Wagner (#201-203)
 * Steven Cummings (#204-206, 213)
 * Ariel Olivetti (#207-211)
 * Steve Scott (#212)
 * Phil Winslade (#214)

Collected editions
Several of the stories from the title have been collected into trade paperbacks, including the following:
 * Batman: Shaman (#1 - 5), by Dennis O'Neil and Ed Hannigan, ISBN 1-56389-083-6
 * Batman: Gothic (#6 - 10), by Grant Morrison and Klaus Janson, ISBN 1-4012-1549-1
 * Batman: Prey (#11 - 15), by Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy, ISBN 0-446-39521-8
 * Batman: Prey (new edition including Batman: Terror (#11 - 15, #137 - 141)), by Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy, ISBN 978-1401235154
 * Batman: Venom (#16 - 20), by Dennis O'Neil, Trevor Von Eeden, and José Luis García-López ISBN 1-56389-101-8
 * Batman: Faces (#28 - 30), by Matt Wagner ISBN 1-56389-126-3
 * Batman: Collected Legends of the Dark Knight (#32 - 34, 38, 42 - 43), ISBN 1-56389-147-6
 * Batman: Other Realms (#35 - 36, 76 - 78), by Bo and Scott Hampton, ISBN 1-85286-977-1
 * World's Funnest (#38 Plus Superman and Batman: World's Funnest, Superman #30, Detective Comics #267: "Batman Meets Bat-Mite", World's Finest #113, Detective Comics #482, The Brave and the Bold #200, Superman Vol. 2 #11, 31, World's Finest Vol. 3 #6, Batman: Mitefall, Superman/Batman #51-52)
 * Batman: Dark Legends (#39 - 40, 50, 52 - 54), ISBN 1-56389-266-9
 * Batman: KnightsEnd (reprints #62-63 along with material from other titles)
 * Batman: Going Sane (#65 - 68, 200 - incorrectly misspelled as 100, as 100 was collected in Robin: The Teen Wonder - see below)
 * Batman: Monsters (#71 - 73, 83 - 84, 89 - 90)
 * Batman: Blink (#156 - 158, 164 - 167)
 * Tales of the Batman: J. H. Williams III (#86 - 88, 192 - 196, plus Batman #526, 550, 667 - 669, Batman Annual #21; Chase #7 - 8; Detective Comics #821)
 * Batman: Haunted Knight (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Halloween Special; Batman: Madness - A Legends Of The Dark Knight Halloween Special; Batman: Ghosts - A Legends of the Dark Knight Halloween Special)
 * Robin: The Teen Wonder (#100, plus Nightwing (vol. 2) #101, Batman #428 and 442, Robin (vol. 4) #126 and 132 and Teen Titans (vol. 3) #29)
 * Batman: No Man's Land Vol. 1 (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #116 - 118)
 * Batman: No Man's Land Vol. 2 (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #119 - 121)
 * Batman: No Man's Land Vol. 3 (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #122 - 124)
 * Batman: No Man's Land Vol. 4 (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #125 - 126)
 * Batman: The Ring, The Arrow and The Bat (reprints Legends of the DC Universe #7 - 9 and Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #127 - 131), by Dennis O'Neil ISBN 1-4012-0126-1
 * Batman: Terror (#137 - 141), by Doug Moench and Paul Gulacy, ISBN 1-4012-0125-3
 * Batman: Under the Cowl (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #168)
 * Batman: War Games Book One (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #182)
 * Batman: War Games Book Two (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #183)
 * Batman: War Games Book Three (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #184)
 * Batman: Snow (#192 - 196), written by Dan Curtis Johnson and J. H. Williams III, art by Seth Fisher, ISBN 1-4012-1265-4.
 * From 2010-2011, several issues of the title had been collected into 100-page reprint issues/books from DC Comics' revival of the DC Comics Presents title.
 * Batman: Four of a Kind (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Annual #5)
 * Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 1 (Legends of the Dark Knight (vol. 2) #1 - 5)
 * Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 (Legends of the Dark Knight (vol. 2) #6 - 10)
 * Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 3 (Legends of the Dark Knight (vol. 2) #11 - 13, 100-Page Super Spectacular #1)
 * Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 4 (Legends of the Dark Knight 100-Page Super Spectacular #2 - 3)
 * Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 5 (Legends of the Dark Knight 100-Page Super Spectacular #4 - 5)

Awards
Issues #116-126 of the series were part of the No Man's Land storyline, which won the Comics Buyer's Guide Fan Award for Favorite Story for 2000.

Specials and spin-offs
There are three annual Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight Halloween Specials written by Jeph Loeb with art by Tim Sale, which were reprinted in Batman: Haunted Knight; the popularity of these led to the three miniseries Batman: The Long Halloween #1-13, Batman: Dark Victory #0-13 and Catwoman: When in Rome #1-6.

The short-lived series Legends of the DC Universe was based on the concept of Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight, but instead of Batman, it featured a rotating roster of other DC superheroes.

The Batman: Mitefall special used the modern version of Bat-Mite, who first appeared in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #38, to parody the Knightfall storyline.

The trade paperback Batman: Four of a Kind chronicles Batman's four first meetings with the Batman villains the Riddler, the Scarecrow, the Man-Bat and Poison Ivy. These stories were printed in the 1995 "Year One" Annuals of the four Batman comic book series of the time: Detective Comics, Batman, Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight and Batman: Shadow of the Bat, respectively.

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Young All-Stars

The Young All-Stars are a team of fictional DC Comics superheroes. They were created by Roy Thomas, Dann Thomas, and Michael Bair, and introduced in Young All-Stars #1, dated June 1987. The team members Tsunami, Neptune Perkins, and Dan the Dyna-Mite were all introduced in previously published DC Comics stories. The team members Iron Munro, Flying Fox, and Fury were created for the series and intended to be analogs of the Golden Age versions of Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman respectively.

Young All-Stars lasted for 31 issues, as well as one annual.

Publication history
Young All-Stars was a follow-up to DC's popular 1980s series All-Star Squadron, created and written by Roy Thomas. All-Star Squadron retroactively introduced new stories into DC's Golden Age history, mainly during World War II. The series premise was that during World War II, President Franklin D. Roosevelt created Article X, a "superhero draft" that asked all active masked crime-fighters and superhuman adventurers to join forces as a special war-time group, the All-Star Squadron. The team's base was located on the grounds of the 1939 New York World's Fair. The team introduced brand new characters, used many of DC's Golden Age heroes, and also featured Golden Age heroes who weren't published by DC Comics in the 1930s and 40s but had since been acquired by the company. The series was known for revising and expanding parts of the fictional history of DC Comics superheroes.

The series took place on the parallel world of Earth-Two, which DC had designated as the reality where stories published during the Golden Age of Comics took place. Modern day comics (starting with the mid-1950s) were said to occur in a reality called Earth-One. While the Golden Age Superman, introduced in 1938, had lived through World War II, the Earth-One Superman had not even been born until long after the war was over. While the modern-day Earth-One Wonder Woman was a superhero in her prime, new stories revealed that the Golden Age Wonder Woman of Earth-Two had fought Nazis during World War II, then later semi-retired, married her dear friend Steve Trevor, and had a daughter named Hyppolyta Trevor (who became a hero called Fury and joined a team of heroes known as Infinity, Inc.).

During the 1985-1986 series Crisis on Infinite Earths, Earth-Two and Earth-One, along with some other realities, merged into a new, unified reality with a revised history. The heroes of World War II now existed in the same timeline as modern heroes, simply operating at an earlier time. While it was not a major problem to establish that certain characters such as the Golden Age Flash (a man named Jay Garrick) and the later Flash (a man named Barry Allen) could co-exist and both operate during different time periods, this explanation didn't work for heroes with direct counterparts. Golden Age heroes such as Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Robin, and Green Arrow all of whom had the same secret identities, same basic origin stories, and largely similar supporting casts as their modern day counterparts. For this reason, these particular Golden Age heroes, and some others, had to be removed from the history of the new, unified timeline. This also meant the canon of several recent All-Star Squadron stories was now questionable, since the Golden Age versions of those same heroes made multiple appearances in the series. To clear the slate after Crisis on Infinite Earths and re-launch the franchise, All Star Squadron was canceled with issue #67 and replaced with a successor series, Young All-Stars.

Young All-Stars featured the previously existing characters Neptune Perkins and young Dan the Dyna-Mite as stand-ins for the Golden Age versions of Aquaman and Robin, respectively. The rest of the team consisted of brand new characters created to be spiritual and contextual analogs for other eliminated Golden Age characters: Iron Munro stood in for Superman, Flying Fox stood in for Batman, and Fury stood in for Wonder Woman (this new character was now said to be the mother of the modern day hero Fury who served in Infinity, Inc., who was originally meant to be the Earth-Two Wonder Woman's daughter). Another character included in the team was Tsunami, who had been originally introduced in All-Star Squadron.

Young All-Stars issue #1 also introduced a team of villains called Axis Amerika, a subversive US-based organization that included agents of the Axis Powers. The members of the group were all evil analogs for the Golden Age versions of Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Robin, Green Arrow, and Aquaman. The villains included: Übermensch, Gundra the Valkyrie, Der Grosshorn Eule (Horned Owl) and his son/sidekick Fledermaus, the archer Usil, and the amphibious wolfman called Sea Wolf.

Fictional history
While carrying out a mission for the All-Star Squadron, TNT and Dyna-Mite are ambushed by members of Axis America. During the battle, TNT is killed. Dyna-Mite, who barely survives, is aided by Arn Munro, a young man who possesses superhuman physical abilities. Iron Munro, Fury (Helena Kosmatos), Flying Fox, and Dan help fend off an Axis America attack on Squadron headquarters. The four young heroes meet up with Neptune Perkins and Tsunami while heading out to the West Coast to track down Axis America. Later on they meet and recruit the Tigress.

After routing the forces of Axis America, the five young heroes are invited to join the All-Star Squadron on a probationary basis. They fight foreign and local Axis threats. They also meet an older group of metahumans collected by the Allied countries known as The Young Allies whose members come from Russia, China, France, and England. The Young All-Stars are disbanded after being absorbed into the All-Star Squadron.

Members

 * Dan the Dyna-Mite, the former sidekick of TNT with explosive powers.
 * Flying Fox, a First Nations hero from Canada. He replaces Batman from All-Star Squadron.
 * Fury, or Helena Kosmatos, an Amazon heroine empowered by the ancient Furies. She replaces Wonder Woman from All-Star Squadron.
 * Iron Munro, or Arn Munro, is the super strong, nearly invulnerable son of Hugo Danner, and the title character from Philip Wylie's 1930 novel Gladiator. He replaces Superman from All-Star Squadron.
 * Neptune Perkins, a water-breathing World War II hero who would later marry Tsunami and become a U.S. Senator. He replaces Aquaman from All-Star Squadron.
 * Tigress, or Paula Brooks, a cat burglar turned hero. In the post-World War II era, she would become the villainous Huntress.
 * Tsunami, a water-breathing and water-controlling hero. She describes herself as a Japanese-American kibei, and later marries Neptune Perkins.

Resources

 * The Unofficial History of ...The Young All-Stars
 * JSA Chronology entry for the Young All-Stars
 * Roy Thomas, ed., The All-Star Companion, Vol. 2 (2006). ISBN 1-893905-37-3

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Talk:Mr. Children

Sales Conflict

 *  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

 * Discuss all issues on Talk:Ayumi_Hamasaki due more active responds additional similar issues occur with many Top selling Japanese Music Artists: B'z, Mr. Children, Southern All Stars, Ayumi Hamasaki, etc...— ■ ~∀SÐFﾑｻ~ ■ =]  Babashi? antenna? 06:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Sales
Please do not post false information, they are not the second highest selling music act from Japan.

There are many Japanese musicians that have sold more records than Mr.Children.

I am using one of my favorites as an example, and giving an English reference dated back in 1989 when Hibari Misora died.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE7DA1E3EF936A15755C0A96F948260

She had sold around 70 million albums before the 1990's. I mean no offense to Mr.Children fans, but it is wrong to make such a statement. 220.253.16.5 (talk) 12:43, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It is NOT false information and can even be confirmed by the reference link that was listed. If you have a problem with the way Oricon calculates sales, I suggest you write to them and complain. By deleting information like you just did, you are placing your own personal opinion, and are failing to see that, while you may disagree, the information is verifiable and correct according to Oricon. Wikipedia is for posting verifiable facts. Not inputing personal opinion on whether or not we believe something to be true or false. I'm sorry you feel like the article is making false statements, but it is not. Unless you can find another official list (from RIAJ for example) of the highest selling artists in Japan, I'm afraid we have to stay with the current official list which was released by Oricon, of which places Mr.Children as the second highest selling act. - Hedatari (talk) 15:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

I think some editors should learn to read Japanese before posting references. Michiya Mihasi is Japan's highest selling musician with an estimate of 160 million records sold. He became the first Japanese musician to break the 100 million sales mark in 1983. This is achievement is mentioned in his profile at Oricon.

Michiya Mihasi's artist page at Oricon.

Many of the Oricon references have been misinterperted. 220.253.109.122 (talk) 09:04, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

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What is Mr. Children?
what is mr. children???

Ans. Mr.Children are so famous rock band in Japan. Almost all Japanese know them.

Because they are one of most successful band in Japan. --- 61.26.81.2 23:24 (UTC) August 11, 2005

Shouldn't this be at Mr.Children (no space). All of Mr.Children's official materials omit the space.--24.57.133.195 18:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
 * Should we move it? mirageinred 03:11, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Important Titles Note for ALL artists (please copy this on other asian artist talk pages)
I must note something very important for future editors of this page (also try to observe this for any non English speaking band or author... etc): If you see a single, album, dvd, concert, or book title that contains poor grammar, please consider that even though the English spelling or grammar may be incorrect, that it still may actually be the official title. If someone is searching for the single, and cannot find it the official way... then what good is wiki? Please do not tamper with titles unless you have found hard evidence that the title has been written incorrectly from the official spelling. also note, some OFFICIAL japanese titles are titled in all CAPS (or with stars and hearts or other "non-letter/number characters) this is NOT a mistake, please leave them like this. All one must do is observe the picture or written info of the single/album/book on the official page which is linked in the article at the bottom. Please help keep wikipedia encyclopedic and correct! Thank you. -- NatsukiGirl \talk 04:22, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Well, can you provide arguments on why should we break the convention? why not putting redirects in the all uppercase titles? The article text could use uppercase, but I don't see compelling arguments for changing the convention of the title. Also, for the "people wil lsearch for the upper case title", well, that's what the redirects solve. So far I haven't seen a discussion (perhaps you can point it to me) and since there's no consensus yet, I suggest not to change albums titles to uppercase (as in AROUND THE WORLD from the existing titles). -- ( drini's page   ☎  ) 04:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the . Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

don't move as a matter of policy. We don't format titles funny just because. — Nightst a  llion  (?) Seen this already? 15:32, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Requested move
Mr. Children → Mr.Children – {All official source omit the spacekojaxs 04:37, 25 April 2006 (UTC)} copied from the entry on the WP:RM page

Survey

 * Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with  ~

 * Support I cannot find an official source (band website, label site) which includes a space between Mr. and Children.kojaxs 04:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose Generally WP does not reflect weird spellings picked by publicists. They can be changed easily and often are. Septentrionalis 05:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Oppose: because they space oddly does not mean we must. Jonathunder 22:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

 * Oppose per Jonathunder. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 17:36, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Support The name should be taken as a whole "Mr.Children" without the space, usage or policies have nothing to do with it.--紅会心 Kurenai Kaishin 21:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Support Google Search for Mr.Children word:
 * Support no space since its the real spellingTomba 15:38, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

MR.CHILDREN_OFFICIAL_SITE_VERSION_1.0 MR.CHILDREN Official Site. www.mrchildren.jp/ - 4k - En caché - Páginas similares

Suzuki

Discussion
This is not an arbitary spelling based on the whim of a publisist. Every Mr.Children album/single I own is without the space, none of their official material contains the space. The only time I see the space is in non-Japanese publications...kojaxs 09:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
 * In that case, I suggest we leave it where it is and indicate in the intro the unusual "spelling". --日本穣 Nihonjoe 20:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Recent edits
Sorry if this sounds aggressive but I need to get this off my chest: Why are multiple Mr.Children items being deleted without discussing it? Firstly, Mr.Children is spelt WITHOUT the space in between the. and Children. Secondly the link to the disography page was changed when the original link leading to the discography page spelt the bands name correctly. I even have a whole bunch of magazine, CDs, and DVDs by the group to prove the correct spelling. Thirdly most of the biography on the group has been written by ME which I have gotten from various magazines interviews. The only way I can cite a source is by citing a magazine. Mr.Children rarely does online interviews and thus magazines I purchase are the only thing I have to go by. Is there a correct way I should source these magazines so that the credibility is not disputed? Should I put the issue and volume number also in addition to the year and magazine? Fourthly, this is just a general note, but I really wish people would DISCUSS things here FIRST before they randomly change things. Since I'm the one who is mostly doing this by myself it would help A LOT if someone would just say "Hey this needs to be changed" rather then just DELETING an entire area (like the 2007 news) and not giving me or anyone a chance to figure out a way to integrate it properly into the page. Again I am truly sorry if this sounds rude, but I'm always getting asked by people to work on the Mr.Children wiki here and everytime I try to, people start deleting and changing things without even discussing it. ikuni-web 19:32, 12 June 2007

 * May I direct your attention towards WP:MOS-TM and WP:V/WP:RS/WP:BLP? Wikipedia articles should not emulate eccentric typesetting used in trademarks and their content must be verifiable through reliable sources, especially when dealing with biographies of living people. Uncited information may be removed by any editor at any time. - Cyrus XIII 23:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

 * You're totally confussing me. How do you want me to PROVE the correct way to spell their name? Just look at their official websites. It states it. I know the quality of this Mr.Children wiki needs work, which is why I had that original tab at the top, saying it was still being worked on, because it is. All the other wiki on Japanese aritsts like Koda Kumi and Amuro Namie, have issues but people don't just start deleting stuff. They discuss it first. I mean you deleted the fansites, but other wiki pages to other Japanese aritsts here link to fansites so why is it wrong for this one to? You're just deleting stuff without even trying to explain things or helping out in any way other then to keep saying I'm wrong. If I'm messing something up I would really like you to direct me to a Japanese artist wiki that does things correctly so that I can learn how to do this properly rather then directing me to WP:MOS-TM and WP:V/WP:RS/WP:BLP which honestly isn't helping me in any way. - ikuni-web  00:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add you deleted their ENITRE discography without at least fixing it. Not to mention there was NO reason to delete it like that. The least you could have done if you're so amped to continue to mispell Mr.Children to Mr. Children is place the discography information in that article box so that at least other people can still view it while things are being figured out on this end. Again you ask for sources, I'm telling you the source on how to spell the bands name properly can be found at their own record label site: http://www.toysfactory.co.jp/mrchildren/ which clearly shows it being spelt Mr.Children and not Mr. Children ikuni-web 00:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

No one is demanding sources for the official typeset, the result of the recent move discussion simply was not to emulate the stylized spacing. What references are needed for is pretty much all the content of the History section and probably rare/out-of-print releases that have been removed from the discography page for the time being. Regarding the practice of linking to lots of fansites and other recurring issues: Wikipedia is a user-edited encyclopedia so a lot of articles won't be up to its own standards at any given time. If you would like to become more familiar with these standards and how to apply them, read through the guidelines and policies I have already provided here and in my edit summaries. If you would like examples, check out a few good/featured articles. - Cyrus XIII 04:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Other editors have been through here and none have had the problems with this wiki like you have. From what I was able to read from the wiki standards it said "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article" can be listed. And the links listed were those. None of them were BS links and even though yes, there were non-English links, which the wiki said to try not use in the English wiki, they were still relevent as they had the latest news/releases on the group. So I still don't understand the issue with that still. I do understand the importance of reference because no one wants to read false information, but like I said other editors have been through here. And things like their demo work and indie work are common knowledge and can be found in any Japanese Mr.Children website. I thought you didn't have to source commone knowledge. Oh well. I had originally thought this to be a bad idea for me to do, and I guess I was right. Hopefully someone else will work on the Mr.Children wiki now, because I can tell any future edits I make will be be soley judge by you and probably deleted since it would most likely not be up to correct standards. --Ikuni-web 10:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Cyrus if you don't know about the Mr.Children history, please don't try to edit verificable information, the indie information of the band can be founded in page like porudamu blog's and page like Mr.Children's Worlds and a LOT OF Japanese Fan Sites, if you don't know about the band, easily, DON'T EDIT THE ARTICLE (not the content, of course if you wish to edit the style, you're welcome), because:

 * It's really hard to find information about the band and make story lines, of course you can find information about japanese bandas like Laruku, Dir en Grey and other famous overseas bands, yep is easily but not about Mr.Children, Mr.Children isn't.

 * The main editors (Ikuni, Katto, Mr_Children and me, sometimes) are long time fans about the band, so we can give trustable and miselaneous info about the band, users like Ikuni have websites about the band and obtain information from diferent sources, and users like me read japanese source sites about the band, so you can't edit them and reduce the info collected in them, because "you are cleaning the pointless information of them", this is a close-minded actitude...

 * The title of the band is Mr.Children, even if the english rules puts the article like Mr. Children we need to remarke the article is called Mr.Children (in the spanish Wikipedia i putted the Template Wrong Writted Name (is a average translation, don't take so serious)), also this was discutted so, you can seen japanese fans and official pages about theband and you will find the name as is as: Mr.Children, about the name of the singles, albums, etc, the Japanese artist are very respectfull about the names, because a songs can be called with the same characters and be writted and understanded differently. Houki Boshi can be writted like ほうきぼしor 箒星. So if you don't know this mispellings about the Japanese Music, please avoit to edit them.

Of course you can asume is a GNU Document and blah, blah, blah... but still is pointless, please don't be rude and a "human-bot". If you make another edition of the article without a good reason and apelating to the rules of Wiki (and saying this is good for the clean and understand of the article for blah, blah, blah). I will request your suspension or ban, because this act is like a vandalism (an "altruism" vandalism, but vandalism at least). And also request the protection to the article, Greetings. -Suzuki 20:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Let me explain it once more: Information that is not backed up by reliable sources may be removed by any editor at any time (see Reliable sources and Verifiability). This goes double for articles of biographical nature (see Biographies of living persons). Fan sites are not reliable sources, neither are verdicts by long-time fans. Being not personally invested into a given subject also does not bar me from editing its article, though by now, some of the editors you mentioned might want to ask themselves whether they can still guarantee the neutrality of their contributions and that they are not too possessive of this and its related pages (see Neutral point of view and Ownership of articles). I'd wish you luck with trying to get me "suspended" or "banned" for applying one of this project's most fundamental principles, but really, this is just ridiculous, if not downright hostile (see Civility). - Cyrus XIII 21:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * And Official Websites and Label Pages are non copyrighted Sources?, If you say yes, the fanpages has the same info about the band (with the difference of more comments and updated info), so because is an extended information about the official info, is a valid source. If you say yes, i will make changes in some articles like the Dir en Grey article beause violates the non-copyrighted texts for Wikipedia (and of course i will can merge to the stub range, because the most info of them are copyrightable). And don't comes with a "i'm reffuges in the Wiki's Politics" posture, this is a pedant acttitude. --Suzuki 21:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you rephrase your last message, minus the threat of retaliation edits and the remark about supposed attitudes? I'm having trouble to understand what you are getting at. - Cyrus XIII 21:59, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

After New Editor
Forget it, for everybody. Underconstruction Template putted, respect it and don't make important changes to the article. --Suzuki 22:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC) Then why don't you acknowledge "Mr.Children" instead of "Mr. Children" in the first place? What about their figures sales? They are taken from the Oricon figures, which is the Japanese equivalent of the RIAA. What could be more reliable? Please go on a look-out for some information & you'll see how difficult it is to find online information from them (given the fact that you DO manage to find some content).
 * Wrong, the Oricon is the equivalent of the Billboard, isn't of the RIAJ. Check the Oricon Article, also the Oricon takes the estadistics and release without copyrights in their websites--Suzuki 22:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

My bad, I did mix the names. Anyway the band's name has been fixed. But the absence of the sales figures is very awkward.
 * Don't worry, and one more thing, please if you found inconssistence of the article please fix it, because i isn't a native english speaker =/-Suzuki 22:29, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

If you would like to re-introduce previously removed material into the article and have a source for it which satisfies WP:RS, go ahead. Just follow the instructions provided by WP:CITE, in order to have your citations recognized as such and keep in mind that fan sites do not constitute reliable sources. Also, citing sources for some content does enable you to add still uncited content along with it and of course, the Wikipedia Manual of Style and the guidelines of WikiProject Music still apply in terms of formatting, so no all-uppercase album titles and the likes. Avoid redundancy; there is no point in including lists of the band's works here with a separate discography page already in place. - Cyrus XIII 22:52, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * The article sources now is quoted to Theppn and mr.children.jp, so i quoting GNU Text and Official Sources (trustable info), i hope this info wasn't be removed and the discography info will be putted in a extense article, so keep this resume in this article, because Mr.Children's Discography is very extend (more than 40th CDs)--Suzuki 23:00, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Theppn is a user-edited fan site and does not satisfy WP:RS. You cannot use it to reference information on Wikipedia. - Cyrus XIII 23:03, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * According to GFDL Licence, if you copy a GNU Text, the original licence is still working of the copied text, so the workers of the original text still gives the GNU Licence to the text, also Theppn is a Enclyclopedic japanese pop music, isn't a fan page, and the info is putted for workers arround the world, like Wikipedia. About the names, the characters in japanese are translated to english, so i don't see problems about the Manual of Style. --Suzuki 23:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * This hasn't got anything to do with licensing. Anyone can create an account at Theppn and make a few changes - just like this. That's user-edited/self-published content and of no use for us. Also, see WP:MOS-JP for titles like HOME/Home. - Cyrus XIII 23:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

 * The info posted in Theppn contains part of the english translation of the booklet Mr.Children 1992-2000 maded by Kodomo. I will post it like a ref in the Theppn article.--Suzuki 23:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

(deindet) This does not change the fact that you cannot use Theppn to reference information on Wikipedia. If you would like to cite the booklet, do that but in a way that makes it perfectly clear what bits of information are to be backed up by it by that particular source. - Cyrus XIII 00:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

 * Fixed the 1989-1995 Bio, added reference from JACOMPA, mrchildren.jp and Wikipedia articles for Mr.Children, and Shounan Baku Soukozu. (Please, check the mispellings and fixit, because i'm translating the text from Spanish and Japanese)--Suzuki 17:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

 * What makes you think that other Wikipedia articles are any better suited as a source than Theppn? - Cyrus XIII 18:01, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Reasons?

 * First, the official info is posted in japanese (not english for the overseas fans), so in Wikipedia the translations from foreigener Wikipedias is alowed, so considering the constant checking of the main editors of this article (And this guys are alrready very elitist in the information), and considering the constant promoting (in the english wikipedia we can site some pages, but in Japan the information of the band is very promoted in the streets, TV, Radio, Websites, Fansites (i know, the fansites is a "untrustable" source, but this sites puts in text all information about the band), etc). I don't know the case in anoher bands, but in Mr.Children that is the case. (BTW, The Japanese Page is Citted for the Tie-Ups of Mr.Children, you can easily find the article and websites relacionated with this in the Japanese Wiki).

 * Second, Are you trying to say who the English Wikipedia is the only Truth Source?. Please, in this case the Japanese Wikipedia are most trustable than another languages. Ignoring the source references, the information of the band is the same of the official page, and extended with the live information with the people attending events and lives. (if you think everybody are lying)We know, Wiki isn't a fansite, but this sites provides addicional information about the facts.

I don't know if you can read Japanese, if you can, read it and see the info, is very exactly in the timeline and events succed to the band. And of course i will put references from the official page mixing the info of this with the jp.wiki info. Greetings! =) --Suzuki 18:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

 * You're still wrong. Wikipedia, regardless of the language it is in, consists of user-edited content, that can be changed and potentially falsified by just about anyone. Not to mention that the Japanese article about the band in question does not offer a single source to hold its own ground. Have you actually read Reliable sources? - Cyrus XIII 18:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

The history of Mr.Children can be found in their duel BEST OF album's titled 'Mr.Children 1992-1995' and 'Mr.Children 1996-2000'. Both albums came with a history booklet in addition to the actual album. The material that was posted here can be found in both history books. The 1992-1995 booklet also contained information about their pre-1992 when they were called THE WALLS and also about their high school days. All information that fan sites based their information off of are these two booklets the group wrote. So most, if not all, credit will need to be given to those two booklets in the albums. --24.233.167.16 19:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd also like to add that the information that is posted at Theppn was actually stolen from the English fansite 'Everything'. Whether or not Theppn got permission is another story, but that information was translated by the owner of that site from the history booklets I talked about above, so if you do decide to use 'Everything's' translation of the booklets, you need to credit the Mr.Children booklets for the original information and you will also need to make a note that let's readers know it was translated by the owner of that site into English. Also material from self-published sources and sources of questionable reliability may be used in articles about themselves, so long as it is not relevant to their notability, it is not not contentious, it is not unduly self-serving, it does not involve claims about third parties, it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject, and there is no reasonable doubt as to who wrote it. You can read more here: WP:VERIFY --24.233.167.16 20:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Discography
Something needs to be done about the discography. It can't be listed both in the main Mr.Children article and also in their own discography page, but I'm afraid to touch that given the unfortunate incidents that have happened with it prior to this writing. What I think would be a good idea is, yes I know I shouldn't reference other wiki's, but I like how other artist wiki's will list only the albums in the main article (like a brief overview of the albums chart positions), and then if the readers want more information they can click into the artists discography. That way someone can get a good overview of their works without have to scroll through their discography page. Just an idea, but like I said, I'm afraid to touch it. Maybe someone else out there, who has the readers best interest at heart, can work on that. --24.233.167.16 18:31, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I think a table with the chart states and the type of the album is the best option.--Suzuki 17:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

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Alfi (car manufacturer)

The Alfi was a German automobile built in Berlin (Prussia) by an electrical company between 1921 and 1924.

The same company had been responsible for the AAA (AG für Akkumulatoren- und Automobilbau) electric cars and vans which were supplied in large numbers to the German Post Office. In 1922 when they decided to move to engine driven cars they changed their name to Alfi, derived from the owners name Alex Fischer.

The first Alfi model had a 780 cc flat-twin engine. This was followed by a side valve 940 cc inline-four engine manufactured by Steudel of Kamenz in Saxony. Next came an inline four of 1320 cc built by Atos of Berlin.

A new Alfi company, Alfi Automobile GmbH was formed in 1927, also by Alex Fischer. This time the cars and vans were three-wheelers powered by DKW engines driving the single front wheel. These could be turned 180 degrees to propel the car backward. An additional four-wheeled model, the 4-wheeled Alfi Sport, had a 2/10PS engine, was bodied as an open or coupe two-seater, and was produced in small numbers.

The company closed in 1928.

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Talk:Noah in Islam

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Added viewpoints of liberal and secular historians to maintain NPOV, as well as features distinguishing the Islamic and Biblical accounts of Noah. --Zeeshanhasan 20:44, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

 * You have this some "liberal movements in Islam" inserted almost everywhere in these articles, regardless of the topic. In most cases it seems this some "liberal movements in Islam" consists only you and your web site. Here you made the claim that some "liberal movements in Islam" believe that the Quran borrows the flood story from Sumerian mythology. I defy you to find me proof of this claim (other than your own web site). Which "liberal movement in Islam" has said that? Until you post the proof, I would remove that claim. You are inserting you own oneliner beliefs everywhere in all these articles by preceding the beliefs with 'some "liberal movements in Islam,"' it seems. Nice. OneGuy 11:45, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

 * I have written a book titled "Noah Compared Genesis and Quran" that will soon be online as an e-book by goldenaer.com. I have studied Islamic mysticism for 25 years including a 6 month residential intensive course with a Sufi Sheikh, and God has given we some insights, So I feel I can contribute a lot to this discussion.Kildwyke (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

 * I have heard that the prophet that this article is referring to (Nuh) can also be spelt Nua but on your site there is no reference to it. I would like to know why a qualified Re teacher would set a child homework that can not be found if nua is not a way of saying Nuh. As i know that this is a respectable and reliable site for infomation i want to know whether Nua is a true form of saying Nuh or whether the Re teacher was incorrect and has set homework with incorrect information to be researched. Thankyou for your time User:Cool chick needs Info

proposal to merge with noah
i propose we merge this into "Noah" for the following reasons:
 * 1) it's the same person, whose name is only pronounced differently in different languages.
 * 2) the biblical and quranic accounts of noah provide many similar facts which would best be seen in the context of "compare and contrast."

Any thoughts? Ungtss 16:00, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

BE BOLD !! DO IT !! (I'd do it myself, but you'd probably do a better job) 4.250.198.63 16:40, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * thanks:). doing it:).  Ungtss 16:44, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

No! Noah and Nuh are best dealt with via two distinct articles. Merecat 08:09, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree; Two separate articles are less confusing. Tom Harrison Talk 10:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

 * I agree that two different articles are better, but i dont support the notion of "" is somehow a good name for the "Islamic view of x". "Nuh" is also the Arabic Jewish and Arabic Christian names for the same person, Muslims dont own the name. The correct tittle for this article is Islamic view of Noah, both articles reffer to the same historical person, only difference being that this article is focusing on the Islamic view. There are no solid arguements for naming this article after the Arabic version of the name. --Striver 07:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 4 month and no objections? then ill go ahead. --Striver 09:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

 * The Noah article has a section on Nuh which is practically identical with this article in terms of content. PiCo (talk) 05:37, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

In both verses of the Holy Qur'an that is used in the article, neither of them mention a '950' year period of preaching but rather is found in 29:14. --WittyMan1986 (talk) 04:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Mausoleum????
What exactly is the purpose behind that section of the article??? Can someone add some text to clarify why it's there? Thanks. Aristophanes68 (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

List of promonent prophets
A template is prepared for prominent prophets.

This will help at a glance view link between them. Hope this is also of prime importance in this article. If there is no further suggestion on this, we may include this in this article. --Md iet (talk) 03:13, 4 January 2011 (UTC)--Md iet (talk) 09:13, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
 * There is no further suggestion for the template. Hope this seems OK for inclusion.--Md iet (talk) 03:39, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Replied at Talk:Islamic view of Moses. ~Amatulić (talk) 06:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

The template improved further and included in this article as discussed on page Talk: Islamic view of Moses please.--Md iet (talk) 05:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move
Islamic view of Noah → Nuh – The article i want to move to Nuh is Islamic view of Noah. As Islamic view of Noah depicting the Prophet Nuh in Islam so i believe the name of the page should also be depicting the way it is spelled and understood in Islam. While the Islamic view of Noah would be treated as a redirect to the page Nuh. As the Prophet "Nuh" is a prominent figure in Islam so i believe the primary topic should be Islamic view of Noah as it was earlier. Please provide your opinion regarding the move with justification whether positive or negative Ibrahim ebi (talk) 04:16, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Procedural close; I'm consolidating these requests on Ibrahim's behalf. --BDD (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

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Redirect discussion
There is suggestion that redirect move for this page to be discussed here only. If anybody have objection for creating a redirect for this page by ‘Nuh’ the Islamic name of Prophet Noah,  may please suggest further, as this is name by which prophet is known in Islam which has majority of English reader. --Md iet (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * If you want this to happen, then you need to propose a move at Requested moves. You need to propose a new name for the disambiguation page at Nuh,  The move discussion should be at Talk:Nuh.  If you want Nuh to be a redirect, then you need to provide evidence concerning the primary topic on Nuh, as was explained to you at Talk:Abraham in Islam.--Toddy1 (talk) 22:34, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Infobox change!
I have changed the infobox as there is point of view in it and was more inclined towards how He is perceived in Christianity. Also the infobox i have used is similar to the one displayed at Abraham in Islam and Moses in Islam. --Bestonewins (talk) 06:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

"Differences from Judeo-Christian teachings" requires clarification
the current text states that "there is little in the Qur'an to support" the view that "only certain parts of the world were submerged under water". However, the last statement is that "According to Islam...the flood was local, around the Dead Sea area..." This is an apparent contradiction which must be resolved by referencing extra-Qur'anic literature, popular interpretation, etc.

137.111.13.46 (talk) 15:47, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

This is quite confusing. And part of this section is attributed to "Submitters International", a group that only themselves would accept as speaking for "Islam" as they are outside the fold according to the rest of Muslims.

dk4 (talk) 03:37, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I have written a book titled "Noah Compared Genesis and Quran" that will soon be online as an e-book by goldenaer.com. I have studied Islamic mysticism for 25 years including a 6 month residential intensive course with a Sufi Sheikh, and God has given we some insights, So I feel I can contribute a lot to this discussion.Kildwyke (talk) 18:35, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Removed this bit
"Islamic scholars agree that Noah had four sons whose names were Ham, Shem, Yam and Japheth."

I removed because the Quran does not mention any of his sons and nor is there an agreement among Islamic scholars that those were their names. Not to mention the source used is "thetorah" which is not an Islamic, but a Jewish reference. Akmal94 (talk) 09:24, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Maintenance template
Can someone please review the article and decide if the maintenance template could be removed? 2016-11-23 23:00 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.110.99.115 (talk)
 * It should not be removed, most sources simply pick verses of a Quran translation. Many others quote from Blogs. Sections, which are more relevant for an encyclopedia, such as the culture section (I created now), are just too short and needs more expansion (and more sources from an academic point of view).--VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 17:55, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Which city was nabii nuh (A.S) sent?
I want to know the answer 197.237.224.143 (talk) 14:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Urdu
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OK (Karting)

KF2, is a kart racing class for top drivers aged 14 and up.

This class used to be called Intercontinental A (ICA) and has changed since January 2007 when CIK-FIA decided to replace the 100 cc water-cooled two-stroke engines with 125 cc Touch-and-Go (TaG) water-cooled two-stroke engines (KF type). The engines produce 34 - 36 hp. The KF2 class karts use hand-operated front brakes via a lever. The chassis must be approved by the CIK-FIA. Minimum weight with driver is 160 kg for national and 158 kg for international events.

Karts are equipped with an electric starter and a centrifugal clutch. The engine rpm is limited at 15,000 rpm. It is one of the highest kart classes and is run in both national and continental championships, with the most prestigious being the European Championship and the World Cup.

In 2010, karts of the KF2 category were mandated in the Karting World Championship.

In 2016, the class was renamed OK, standing for the new Original Kart class. The new karts had much of the electronics removed, and had to be push-started.

title: OK (Karting)