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User talk:Livajo

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never on aim
actually, this is the easiest way for me to say.. yo.. why arn't you online ever? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cs302b (talk • contribs) 00:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Saranac Lake
Thanks for fixing my [Saranac Lake] link. I'm getting the hang of this Wiki stuff.

cs302b

Communist?
I was wondering how you consider yourself a communist. In my opinion, someone who is anti-authoritarian cannot be a communist. I understand you are against capitalism, but if you believe the state shouldn't exist, that cannot be communism! If people are free to do as they wish we would still be a capitalist society. Smart194 16:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

John Sedgwick
It looks like there were copyright problems with the German-language article for which you requested a translation. I've moved this exchange here from Wikpedia:Translation into English; you can decide if there is some other avenue you want to pursue toward creating this article. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:32, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)

I've added a note about that to de:Wikipedia:Artikel mit noch ungeklärten Urheberrechten. -- Jmabel 21:19, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC) See User_talk:Olaf_Fritz for comparison - At least it is partially quoted from Stewart Sifakis, "Who Was Who In The Civil War", 1988. Olaf Fritz 21:30, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC) Can anyone clarify the current status of the German-language article? It's been a month and a half, my note is gone from de:Wikipedia:Artikel mit noch ungeklärten Urheberrechten, but I see no discussion of the matter at de:Diskussion:John Sedgwick. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:55, Oct 15, 2004 (UTC) -- I put a note on the German Diskussion page... Mpolo 19:20, Oct 30, 2004 (UTC)
 * Article: de:John Sedgwick
 * Corresponding English-language article: John Sedgwick
 * Worth doing because: German article contains much more info than its English counterpart, a tiny stub.
 * Originally Requested by: Livajo 19:04, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Status:
 * Other notes: I just found out the German version is a literal translation taken from, therefore it is less a translation but copyright issue... Olaf Fritz 18:02, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * The response over on DE was that the article has been reedited, with more information added to it since, so that it is not a translation, but uses that page as a source. The respondant suggested that we Americans look for our own sources and have a nice vote. Mpolo 15:47, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be written from ground up instead of being translated from the German "source", so this request should be moved from translation to article requests Olaf Fritz 22:16, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Great cipher
Great work on Great Cipher! Best regards, — Matt 14:26, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Image:Galicia.jpg
Hi. You mentioned that Image:Galicia.jpg came from the Romanian wiki. Does that page give any information about its copyright status? Do you know whether it's public domain or fair use or what? Thanks,   – Quadell (talk) (help)   15:41, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

 * Wow! Great research. Thanks!   – Quadell (talk) (help)   17:41, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project
Hi. You've helped with the WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
 * Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
 * Multi-Licensing Guide
 * Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the " " template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

 * Option 1
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR
 * Option 2
 * I agree to multi-license all my contributions to any U.S. state, county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace " " with "  ". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

finnugor links
Levi, please do not revert the finnugor / uralic links. Even if you are an anrchist and atheist. Thanks, Antifinnugor 10:18, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * My personal beliefs have nothing to do with this. My reversion was based on the fact that your edits have been attempting to make the article support your theory, which is not the point of Wikipedia. We are here to explain who believes what and why, not to imply that some fringe theory is correct and the opinions of the vast majority of specialists in the field are to be ignored. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 11:31, 12 Dec 2004 (UTC)

your vote
"Very similar arguments could be used as "evidence" that English and Hindi are unrelated. " Are they in your opinion related? If yes, which grammatical and dictionary similarities exist? Antifinnugor 19:41, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * Of course I think they are related. If you don't believe me, pick up any book about the Indo-European languages. There is much common vocabulary that they share (see for some examples), which can be traced back to Proto-Indo-European through regular sound changes, but if you actually look at the words themselves they don't look related, for example English "wheel" and Hindi "charkha" from Sanskrit "cakram", which both seem to come from the same root "kwel-". For the most part, however, the languages have changed through thousands of years of development so that they don't look related any more. They are both inflecting languages, but the syntax is totally different. Hindi uses postpositions rather than prepositions, and SOV instead of SVO word order, and has complex conjugations of verbs whereas English is drifting towards becoming an isolating language. Also, Indo-Iranian languages like Hindi have picked up lots of vocabulary from languages in Asia like the Dravidian languages and Arabic, while Germanic languages seem to have imported a lot of vocabulary from the pre-Indo-European inhabitants of northern Europe. They were widely regarded as separate, unrelated languages until the 19th century when somebody realized that Latin, Greek and Sanskrit verbs conjugated too similarly to be the result of chance, and subsequent research showed them to have more similarities (i.e. the gender systems, shared vocabulary, etc.). I would have thought anybody making serious linguistic arguments that two languages are not related would have been at least somewhat familiar with the Indo-European hypothesis, as it was the foundation for the whole theory of comparative linguistics. [[User:Livajo|Ливай | ☺]] 17:33, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * well, I believe, that the so called Indo-European hypothesis does not stand so robust any more, as it used to. Also what I see is, that the Hindi's post position system is very similar to the Turanian way to express relations, it is in fact the same. Hindi has grammatical gender, that makes it apart from Turanian languages, however, it is clearly related to Turanian ones (also). The word set is also worth to check throughoutly. What books write, is sometimes very good, sometimes not worth to read. As I do not discuss about the Indo-European hypothesis, I do not handle this subject, even thought it is worth to handle it. It is better, to concentrate to one subject, rather than confuse things. The Indo-European hypothesis is not my subject, but if you have time, go thru it critically. Antifinnugor 08:53, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * I would disagree and say the Indo-European "hypothesis" stands firmer now than ever before, with the discovery of languages like Hittite and Tocharian which both seem to share parts of the reconstructed core vocabulary, and a greater understanding of the sound shifts and grammatical changes that have occurred. In fact, you'd be extremely hard-pressed to find a linguist who doesn't believe there was a common ancestor to all the languages commonly classified as Indo-European. Even if it is not your specialty, it would be well worth looking into if you want to seriously argue about comparative linguistics since the vast majority of material on the subject has been about the Indo-European languages and most comparative techniques have been developed within the realm of these languages. Using the very same technique that allows us to fairly accurately get a picture of Vulgar Latin by looking at the Romance languages (which we can check because there are actual written records of the proto-language), they have been able to reconstruct a Proto-Indo-European language which seems to be the ancestor of a huge number of languages from Iceland to Bangladesh. The theory has not, to my knowledge, seriously doubted by any of the specialists in the field for at least a century.

 * Those same comparative techniques, applied to the Finno-Ugric languages, also seem to indicate a common parent language. It is not always readily visible by comparing lists of words, because languages borrow words, reassign words' meanings, and change the pronunciation of words all the time. I must admit I haven't looked very much into the Finno-Ugric languages myself but most linguists agree that the relation between them is pretty clear and the proto-language was probably spoken even more recently than Proto-Indo-European, and I'm inclined to believe them. Ливай | ☺ 17:51, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
 * The problem with the sound shift method is: They define sound shifts and then decide, word a, b, c are similar. Then they define more, and find other similar words, e and f, that were quite unsimilar before this finding. And- the real problem with that, that they do not reconsider the old words are no more similar at all (a and b for example). Sound shifting can happen, but not in large dimensions. As far as I know, the Indo-European theory stands on clay feet due to the unsimilarity of the other languages to Hindi, both in grammar and in dictionary. Newly found languages do not help at all.

 * There was never a common finno-ugric language. There is no evidence any kind, that one ever existed, but lots of evidences, that it never existed. The relation is anything but clear. If it were, the self-styled finnugrists of the wiki would not use the methods, they use and present every day, even here. Read my home page, I characterize them in detail. Antifinnugor 07:43, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Chinese Arthur Rubinstein
zh:阿图尔·鲁宾斯坦 doesn't work.

zh:阿图尔·鲁宾斯坦 does work.

It seems you must replace the "·" with an explicit &#xB7;

-- Curps 21:08, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Alien Language
Sir: I've made some edits to alien language, and I think it might be a more tenable article now. If you have a spare moment would you mind popping over there. If you think it's heading in the right direction, it's not too late to change your vote on Votes_for_deletion/Alien_language. Thanks, Bacchiad 20:20, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

tagging articles
Please put semi-permanent templates like that only are useful to editors, on talk pages (the only major exception I can think of would be the different stub templates). This is to Avoid self references as much as possible and make our content more useful to third party users. Thank you. :) --mav 09:07, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Concerning Ethni
The Stub is a reference to Christian/Hebrew belief as mentioned in the Old Testament. It is why I follow with the relevant Bible Chapter(s) for people to look at. Good to see that somebody at least looked at it! :) User Kingsean1

On sock puppets
You said on a VfD discussion that since a certain user had only one edit, he was most likely a sock puppet. How do you justify this inference?

"Sockpuppet" does not mean "new user", and I'm trying to stop the use of the term to attack newbies. RSpeer 22:45, Feb 20, 2005 (UTC)
 * I assume you are referring to Votes for deletion/Pre-gauge. Well, doesn't it seem just a little odd that someone would register an account just to vote on one VfD page and agree with the author, who himself has only worked on that one article, on keeping what seemed obviously unencyclopedic to virtually everyone else? Perhaps I was being a bit harsh, but it looked a bit suspicious to me. — Ливай | ☺ 07:12, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

a syntax trick
Hi there,

I was reading your edits to Somali language (I'm a linguist too), and I saw that you had:

Afro-Asiatic language

And I thought I'd let you know about a neat trick someone taught me, namely, you can get the same result with:

Afro-Asiatic languages

Saves a little typing, anyhow. Cheers! --babbage 19:59, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know. I had originally only linked the word "Afro-Asiatic", then saw the word "language" was there and moved that inside the brackets, without realizing that that shortcut could be applied. Thanks for the heads-up anyways. — Ливай | ☺ 20:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

Spelling error in Did You Know
I corrected the error you noted (ie principals -> principles) Thanks for your effort. Vaoverland 23:35, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

W. Mark Felt
Salve! I nominated W. Mark Felt as a WP:FAC. As you commented on the Deep Throat talk page, I'd appreciate your comments at Featured article candidates/W. Mark Felt/archive1. PedanticallySpeaking 15:47, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)

Diacritics
Hi, Levi (hm...it's a rhyme. Kewl). Anyway- I reverted the page on Tuđman to Tudjman since we (a few of us Croats here on en wiki) have agreed that names & surnames with diacritics (Tuđman, Krleža, Tin Ujević, Marin Držić,..) are more "visible" and accessible via google & the rest without them (Ujevic, Drzic,..). Appreciate help. Best Mir Harven 1 July 2005 21:42 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Matthew 1:verses
You voted "Merge" in this discussion. I've laid out a detailed merger plan. Please review it and state whether you prefer it or some other form of merger. Uncle G 2005-07-02 00:15:17 (UTC)
 * I just caught that, and adjusted my vote in favor. — ????? | ? 2 July 2005 00:31 (UTC)

 * Your signature currently seems to be turning into question marks (your previous signatures are still cyrillic). Is this deliberate?     2 July 2005 10:20 (UTC)
 * No, this seems to be some sort of bug that happens when other people edit the page. I suppose I'll have to edit my signature so it's not direct Unicode anymore. — ????? | ? 2 July 2005 13:23 (UTC)
 * Actually, it is probably best to leave your signature alone. Better to catch problems there than wipe out interwiki links. Susvolans (pigs can fly) 5 July 2005 17:22 (UTC)

Signature
I'm using Explorer 5.2.2. I'm not really that anxious to change, as constant upgrades are a hassle. But if an update to 5.2.2.0.0.1 or whatever insane numbers they make up will help things run smoothly then I guess I can look into it. And based on whats happened on this page I guess it is turning your signature in question marks. Sorry. This, by the way, is why I prefer to keep things simple. -R. fiend 2 July 2005 15:51 (UTC)

Verses
Hiya,

you recently voted to merge per Uncle G at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Matthew 1:verses

however, that VfD concerned only the verses from Matthew 1, wheras Uncle G's proposal covered a much larger group of verses.

would you be prepared to make a similar vote at Votes for deletion/Individual Bible verses, which covers the full list of verses in Uncle G's suggestion?

9 July 2005 15:06 (UTC)

Unicode and having to fix your sig
Hi, Ливай. Regarding this, I just wanted to point out that you could change your signature to use HTML entities instead of plain UTF (I think), which will prevent some of those annoyances, at least. It took me forever to find a page that could do the conversion automatically, but this one works perfectly (at least for Russian and Japanese). Hope that helps! — HorsePunchKid → 龜 03:47, July 24, 2005 (UTC)

¡Salutojn!
¿Ĉu plaĉas al vi ŝercoj?:

“Mi skribas Esperante esperante, ke vi povu kompreni min.”

Bonas, ke estu samideanoj WikiPædia-e.

—

— Ŭalabio‽ 06:22:39, 2005-08-09 (UTC)

 * Saluton, kara samideano! Mi ŝatas tiun ŝercon. :) El kie vi tajpas? — Ливай | Ⓣ 20:37, 9 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Mi loĝas en la lando de Faŝistoj. Mi loĝas usone.  Usono ne ĉiam estis malbona lando.  En 2000, faŝistoj piratis la politikan partion “Republican”.  John McCain estu la estro de la partio, sed Arbusteto friponis.  Tiam, la fratiĉo de Arbusteto, Jeb, Walden O’Dell, Karl Rove, Halliburton.Com, kaj Dieblold.Com friponis la Elekton.  Nun, faŝistoj regas mian landon.  Nun, Usono estas kiel la Empiro de Stelmilitoj antaŭ la Masakro sur la Planeto Ghorman:

 * Je Ghorman, popoloj pace protestis por reekigi demokration. Tarkin murdis ilin.  Oni lernis ke nur revolucio povas reekigi demokration.  Usone, ni provas reekigi demokration pace, sed sen sukceso.  Se la registaro atakos nin, ni ekos la revolution.

 * ¿Kieas vi?

—

— Ŭalabio‽ 01:28:00, 2005-08-10 (UTC)

 * Mi ankaŭ loĝas en Usono, kaj sentas same pri la registaro. Eble interesos vin ĉi tiu artikolo. — Ливай | Ⓣ 06:03, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

 * Estas bona artikolo. Demokracio en Usono bonis dum ĝi duris.  Ĝi neniam perfektis, ¿kio estas?, sed estis en la alta 10% de nacioj.  Tiu finis.  Usono estis  sekularhumanisma  ŝtato.  ¡Ne plu!  Mi forgesis ligon al la Masakro Ghorman .  Alia ligo estas  la Blanka Rozo  .  Se nin murdos Gonzales, ni mortu kiel blankrozanoj — brave.

—

— Ŭalabio‽ 07:42:08, 2005-08-10 (UTC)

Long s limitation
Actually, the limitation still exists: the capital form of the long s ſ is simply S, and because the Wikipedia forces an article to start with a capital, ſ leads to S. But since only the 26 characters in the modern English alphabet are accepted as article letters apparently (see þ now at thorn etc.)--with the exception of ß--the 'wrong title' comment is not necessary. Jordi·✆ 19:56, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/European Union member states at the 2004 Summer Olympics
You might be interested to have a look. Regards. --Pgreenfinch 16:02, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

Tshe
I reverted the move to Tje, because Unicode officially calls it Tshe, and there is a Komi letter Tje (U+50E, U+50F) in the Cyrillic Supplement range. -- Curps 10:12, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Classic Rock
Hello. I was wondering if you would like to participate in my classic rock survey. I'm trying to find the most liked classic rock song. There is more information on my user page. Hope you participate! 02:59, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

Down By The Bay
Hi, the edit here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Down_by_the_Bay&diff=33521164&oldid=33208926

Now you see, the leetspoken lyrics were made to avoid a copyvio, under the pretext of "for parody's sake" to avoid going against "the spirit of" the copyvio. It's also instrumental in getting parents or anyone of older age demographics to feel and realize how difficult it was to read as a child. As it's a children's song, a child may have tried to read the lyrics with difficulty, and some would like to see how difficult.

Now in case there is some law that still makes a literary work a copyvio even if reproduced under another language (what law is that?), that's also why it was made in Leet, because Leet is not a real language. Therefore, as long as it's posted under the pretext of being a parody, then even the "spirit of" the rules aren't broken.

Now, what was your reason for deleting the leetspoken lyrics, and how do you respond to this post? --Shultz 16:38, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I deleted them for a number of reasons. Firstly, leet is difficult to read for many people. Our encyclopedia should be written entirely in standard English in order to be easy for everyone to use and to be professional-looking. It would be far better to just provide a link to a web page where the reader can read the lyrics in normal English rather than putting the copyrighted lyrics directly into the article and hoping that because it's written strangely copyright laws won't apply to it. — Ливай [[Image:Anarchy_symbol_neat.png|15px]] 22:12, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Kazakh Language
I noticed that you were recently working on the Kazakh language article. I have added some information to the article. You've been at Wikipedia longer than me, and you probably are more knowledgeable in linguistics than I am. Would you mind looking at my recent edits and letting me know if there are any errors? Also, if anything is not up to par, feel free to delete or edit it. Thanks. Waynem 02:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Albanian language
Why did you change all the spellings from the Rugova entry into Albanian? 86.30.16.99 22:17, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't know what you're talking about. I did not change the spellings in that article. All I did was add two interlanguage links. — Ливай [[Image:Anarchy_symbol_neat.png|15px]] 00:15, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Asterisms
I take your point about random distribution of stars. I hope that you won't mind, but I removed the word "quite" from your phrase "strewn quite randomly." It seemed unnecessary, detracted from the sentence-flow, and appeared, in a strange way, a bit subjective. (Well, that's my take.)

Also, thanks for correcting the Orion link.
 * B00P 00:36, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't mind at all. It's always nice to see someone has looked at my edits and cleaned up after me. — Ливай [[Image:Anarchy_symbol_neat.png|15px]] 00:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Article for Deletion
Greetings. You may be interested in voting on Articles for deletion/Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse (image free). Thanks. --Descendall 01:21, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Acracy
I'm not sure about your changes to this article. "-cracy" doesn't distinguish between economic and political authority. Both can be interpreted as "government", which essentially means "administration" and not state. Acracy opposes economic authority just as does anarchy. Note for instance words such as aristocracy, plutocracy, and meritocracy, which are terms of economic authority rather than (or in addition to) political. Sarge Baldy 00:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * You are right. I didn't know what I was talking about and have reverted the page. — Ливай [[Image:Anarchy_symbol_neat.png|15px]] 00:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for interview
Hi, I’m currently writing an article on Wikipedia for the Daily Orange in Syracuse, NY. The article will focus on how Wikipedia is being used in academic environments, specifically college. I wanted to know if you, as a Wikipedia contributor, would be interested in a brief interview for the story. It will take 15 minutes tops, and it would be an enormous help to me. If you are interested, please contact me at ntmokey@gmail.com, my deadline is midnight on Friday (4/28) but I can work you in any time during the day, it will just be a quick discussion over the phone. Thanks, Nick Mokey Ntmokey 01:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

 * I don't know who you are, but I just saw this on recent changes- so let me be the second to wish you a happy birthday!--Kungfu Adam (talk) 12:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bright Icon.gif
I'm afaraid this image is labeled as "fair use". Fair use images are not allwed on userpages. Could you remove it please.Geni 02:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I am one who also holds this item on my userpage. I contest that the fair use label is inaccurate and should be changed. I have contacted the-brights.net about the issue, I recommend you do the same and maybe we can get the webmaster to put up a general statement about this that is easy for people that are not very dedicated to the accuracy of their statements to find.Solidusspriggan 18:29, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Talk:Boston Tea Party
Howdy, I noticed that you and I seem to post in one or two articles dealing with progressive issues in political science/sociology. There's currently a debate beginning in Boston Tea Party as to whether the article should include the category. It meets definitions set in the articles Terrorism and Definition of terrorism, however, there are several self-proclaimed patriots who watch BTP who refuse to recognise the fact. The simple criteria for terrorism generally seem to be intimidation or destruction of property in order to change public policy or public opinion while a state of war has not yet been declared. Some users would rather use recent acts of terrorism as a yardstick, rather than using a firm definition, and hence lose their ability to discuss matters calmly. Would you be able to pop in to the Talk page and join in the discussion? Thanks much, samwaltz 05:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Pre-Virginia Migration?
Hey, I was looking on British American talk page, and I noticed you said your family left England over 400 years ago. Out of curiosity where did they go?Thanks --Hamiltonl 02:47, 12 December 2006 (UTC) That must have been an error on my part. I believe my English ancestors left England in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. — Ливай 05:02, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

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Shat listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Shat. Since you had some involvement with the Shat redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so.  KJ  click here  10:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Majorat
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Please merge your accounts in all Wikipedias
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ArbCom elections are now open!
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title: User talk:Livajo


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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Special price for you my friend

It's a phrase. Non-verifiable. Not encyclopedic. Joyous 20:51, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)

 * Special price for you my friend, I will sell you an ASCII cow for ten of your Eenglish pounds. (once this nonsense has been deleted of course) Dunc_Harris|☺ 20:58, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: Pointless. --Slowking Man 21:46, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete with extreme prejudice. RickK 22:16, Aug 7, 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: a phrase I hear all the time, only it's usually "sucker" for "friend" and "Hey, jackass" at the start, and "come 'ere and buy this junk" in the middle. Otherwise, very common. Geogre 01:59, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete --ScottMorrison 02:03, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Useless trivia, even if true.  --Ardonik 04:09, 2004 Aug 8 (UTC)
 * Delete trivia. Now I'm hearing "We make a special trip for you.  Same low price." SWAdair | Talk  04:17, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Today is your lucky day"   — Chameleon Main/Talk/Images 10:57, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. Not an encyclopedic topic, no useful contents. Andrewa 11:51, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete. C'mon now, people. Skyler 21:42, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

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The Awful Truth (disambiguation)

The Awful Truth is a 1937 film starring Irene Dunne and Cary Grant.

The Awful Truth may also refer to:

Films

 * The Awful Truth (1925 film), a film with Agnes Ayres and Warner Baxter
 * The Awful Truth (1929 film), a film with Ina Claire and Henry Daniell

Television

 * The Awful Truth (TV series), a 1999 American program hosted by Michael Moore
 * "The Awful Truth" (SATC episode), a 1999 episode of Sex and the City
 * "The Awful Truth" (Alias episode), a 2005 episode of Alias

Other uses

 * The Awful Truth (column), an online gossip column by Ted Casablanca
 * The Awful Truth (band), an American progressive metal band
 * The Awful Truth (album), the band's only album
 * The Awful Truth (play), a 1922 Broadway play by Arthur Richman, basis for the films

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The Awful Truth (TV series)

The Awful Truth (1999–2000) is a satirical television show that was directed, written, and hosted by filmmaker Michael Moore, and funded by the British broadcaster Channel 4.

Format
The show emulated television newsmagazine shows (such as 60 Minutes, or Moore's own previous show, TV Nation) in that it comprised a series of documentary segments. For the first season the format involved presenting them to a studio audience (the second season moved to Times Square), often accompanied by a coda and commentary by Moore as to what happened after the segment was first filmed. The show focused on exposing problems in American government, business, and society. It often used outlandish sketches and stunts to point out the inherent absurdity of a situation and hint at potential solutions. At times, the show's sometimes humiliating tactics drew enough attention to cause corporations involved to rethink their policies. For example, after initially denying a man coverage for a pancreas transplant, Humana agreed to pay for it.

Notable scenes

 * After legislation to display the Ten Commandments in public schools, Moore interviews the bill's co-signers and asks them what the eighth commandment is; most cannot answer the question correctly. Dave Weldon does suggest "thou shalt not steal," which is correct for most Protestants, but Michael was using the Roman Catholic/Lutheran list, as he is Catholic. (Moore was looking for "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor".)
 * Moore creates an "African American Wallet Exchange" in Harlem, in response to four NYPD officers who fired on and killed Amadou Diallo, because they thought his wallet was a gun. Once all the wallets are exchanged, Moore deposited them in front of the NYPD headquarters.
 * Staging a mock funeral outside of Humana's corporate headquarters when a health care policyholder is denied a claim to fund a potentially life-saving pancreas transplant. This segment became the inspiration for Moore's sixth feature film, Sicko, released by The Weinstein Company on 29 June 2007. Moore's original plan for Sicko was to stage ten 'stunts' like the mock funeral in front of health-care agencies, but eventually decided to scrap the idea.
 * A group clad in Colonial clothing behaving in a manner reminiscent of the Salem Witch Trials in protest of Kenneth Starr, and his tactics during President Bill Clinton's impeachment trial, with the idea that colonials know how to conduct an economical witch trial. They also read parts of Starr's report on Clinton while Starr was head of the Office of the Independent Counsel, and also highlight certain high-profile politicians own 'anti-moralistic' behavior (in particular Newt Gingrich's affair and subsequent divorce).
 * Crackers the Corporate Crime Fighting Chicken (a character first introduced in TV Nation), played by producer Gideon Evans traveling to Disney World to confront Mickey Mouse about unfair labor practices.
 * The Iowa Caucuses Mosh Pit, in which Alan Keyes dived onto a portable mosh pit and crowd-surfed to Rage Against the Machine to win the endorsement of The Awful Truth for the 2000 presidential election.
 * The Sodomobile, a pink van loaded with homosexual men and women, traveling across the country to U.S. states that have on-the-books sodomy laws, to fight for gay rights. At one point they encounter Pastor Fred Phelps, infamous for picketing during funerals of homosexual men.
 * An election special where a Ficus tree was run against the otherwise unopposed Republican incumbent Rodney Frelinghuysen for a seat in Congress. In total 23 plants ran as write-in candidates for House seats. The Ficus write-in votes were later refused to be counted by the election committee, but the ones that were showed the Ficus having a 4-1 lead over Frelinghuysen.
 * A visit to Philip Morris (now Altria) headquarters, where a group of lung and throat cancer victims used their electronic voice boxes to sing Christmas tunes.

Location filming and DVD release
The first season of the series was filmed in Chicago, Illinois, and aired on the Bravo cable network in the US and on Channel 4 in the UK. The second season was filmed in New York City. Both seasons were released on DVD on April 29, 2003.

Season one had 12 episodes and premiered 11 April 1999 ending 27 June 1999. Season two had 12 episodes, and premiered 17 May 2000 and ended 5 July 2000.

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State of the art (disambiguation)

State of the art often refers to the highest level of development of a device, technique, or scientific field, achieved at a particular time.

State of the art may also refer to:
 * State of the art, a patent law concept, which is a synonym of prior art
 * The State of the Art, a collection of short fiction by Iain M. Banks
 * State of the Art (book), a book by American film critic Pauline Kael
 * State of the Art (Shinhwa album), a 2006 album by Shinhwa
 * State of the Art (Hilltop Hoods album), a 2009 album by Hilltop Hoods
 * State of the Art (Jimmy McGriff album), a 1985 album by jazz organist Jimmy McGriff
 * State of the Art (Presto album)
 * "State of the Art", the eighth track on the album Making Mirrors by Gotye
 * "State of the Art" (Sliders), an episode of the television series Sliders

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Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson

Pearl Lavinia Carr (2 November 1921 – 16 February 2020) and Edward Victor "Teddy" Johnson (4 September 1919 – 6 June 2018) were English husband-and-wife entertainers who were best-known during the 1950s and early 1960s. They were the UK's Eurovision entrants at the 1959 contest with "Sing, Little Birdie", which came second.

Early life
Carr was born in Exmouth, Devon, and Johnson was born in Surbiton, Surrey. They were both successful solo singers before their marriage in 1955. Carr's mother, who had worked on the variety stage, taught her to sing and dance. She worked in a C.B. Cochran show, and later joined the Three in Harmony singing group, which appeared in the revue Best Bib And Tucker starring Tommy Trinder at the London Palladium in November, 1942. During 1944, she toured with Phil Green and his Basin Street Orchestra, and then she became a singer with various RAF Bands led by Leslie Douglas in 1945. By the late 1940s, she was singing with Cyril Stapleton and his Orchestra as they toured the UK's dance halls. Carr became the lead singer of a vocal quartet, The Keynotes, in 1949, who recorded popular songs such as 1951's "There's a Harvest Moon Tonight". The Keynotes were regulars on the BBC radio show Take It from Here in 1949, whilst in 1950, Carr was a fixture on Breakfast with (Bernard) Braden, broadcast at 8:15 a.m. on the BBC Home Service. She moved with Bernard Braden to his programme Bedtime with Braden (9:30 p.m.) in September 1950. She was given her own BBC radio series, In the Blue of the Evening, commencing on 22 March 1951.

Johnson left school at 14 and initially worked in an office. Four years later, he obtained a first professional booking, as a drummer and assistant steward on the P&O liner SS Corfu. He made his first broadcast in 1939 for Radio Ceylon, which provoked a fellow musician to tell him: "You are a very good singer but a bloody awful drummer". During World War II, Johnson served in the merchant navy, working on the Queen Mary ship as a butcher on the transatlantic run. After the war, he was part of the resident band at the Locarno dance hall in Streatham, south London, and he also broadcast as a singer with the bandleader Jack Payne. In 1948, he was taken on as chief announcer for Radio Luxembourg and spent two years with them, presenting and compiling a range of shows, from request programmes to the first radio hit parade, compiled from British sales of sheet music. He was offered a recording contract by Columbia Records, and returned to London to begin a successful recording career. Johnson's first record was "Beloved, Be Faithful", a sheet music chart no. 1 hit. In total, he cut 60 sides for the Columbia label as a solo artist, including covers of hits including "Tennessee Waltz" and "I'll Always Love You". He was also a DJ on BBC Radio 2 as the first presenter of the popular programme All Time Greats.

Joint success
Carr and Johnson were married in 1955 and remained so for 63 years, until their deaths. They became known professionally as "Mr. and Mrs. Music", and were frequently on British television light entertainment programmes. These included The Winifred Atwell Show, Big Night Out, Two of a Kind (with Morecambe and Wise), Sunday Night at the London Palladium, The Arthur Haynes Show, Thank Your Lucky Stars and Blackpool Night Out. They were also regulars on the children's TV show Crackerjack! with Eamonn Andrews and Ronnie Corbett. The duo were part of a record-breaking season at the London Palladium with Bruce Forsyth, and were chosen to appear in the 1960 Royal Variety Performance.

Carr and Johnson represented the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1959, Johnson being the first male Briton to take part, and they finished second with the song "Sing, Little Birdie". The record peaked at No. 12 on the UK Singles Chart.

In 2011, Johnson revealed that they initially thought the contest to become the British entry was the extent of their booking. "We had never heard of the Eurovision Song Contest before and were going to be booked as solo singers, but that consummated Pearl and Teddy as a double act. As far as we were concerned it was just another gig, but it was the easiest money we had ever had. There were two heats – one on the Monday and another on the Wednesday, with the final on Saturday night. When we won, the BBC Head of Television Light Entertainment Eric Maschwitz said he was thrilled that Pearl and I would now represent our country in the Eurovision Song Contest in Cannes. I said: 'What? What do you mean?' I didn't know we had to represent the country. We had no idea whatsoever. He gave me the dates for Cannes and I just hoped we had them available. As it happened, we did. Pearl flew out with three guys from the BBC but I was doing a small show for ATV and got a later flight."

They also tried to represent the United Kingdom again in 1960, entering two songs into the pre-selection, "Pickin' Petals" and "When The Tide Turns"; the latter made the final. It was up against Johnson's own brother, Bryan. In the end, Bryan won and went on to represent the United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest 1960. He came second, with "Looking High, High, High". Carr and Johnson had another hit single the following year, "How Wonderful to Know", which charted at No. 23 in the UK, which was frequently played on the BBC's Family Favourites programme.

Carr and Johnson continued to appear in summer seasons around the UK and on cruise ships for the Royal Viking Line. In 1986, they were the subject of an edition of This Is Your Life. After this, they appeared in the West End revival of the Stephen Sondheim musical Follies, playing vaudeville couple Wally and Emily Whitman, singing "Rain on the Roof". It was at the conclusion of its 18-month run in 1990 that they decided to retire. Shortly afterwards, EMI issued a CD of their joint recordings, The Magic of Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson. That year, they received the Lifetime Achievement Award from the British Music Hall Society.

Later life
Following their retirement, Carr and Johnson moved into Brinsworth House, a home for retired entertainers in south west London.

Johnson appeared in a short piece to camera for a Morecambe and Wise tribute in 2018. He died on 6 June 2018, aged 98. Carr died on 16 February 2020, also aged 98.

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Christian Boltanski

Christian Liberté Boltanski (6 September 1944 – 14 July 2021) was a French sculptor, photographer, painter, and film maker. He is best known for his photography installations and contemporary French conceptual style.

Early life
Boltanski was born in Paris on 6 September 1944. His father, Étienne Alexandre Boltanski, a physician, was Jewish and had come to France from Russia, while Marie-Elise Ilari-Guérin, his Roman Catholic mother originated from Corsica, descended from Ukrainian Jews. His Jewish heritage was a large influence in Boltanski's household. During World War II, while living in Paris, his father escaped deportation by hiding in a space under the floorboards of the family apartment for a year and a half. Christian grew up with this knowledge, and his early experiences with wartime affairs deeply affected him. These experiences would influence his artwork later on. He dropped out of school at age 12.

Early career
Boltanski began creating art in the late 1950s, but did not rise to prominence until almost a decade later through a few short, avant-garde films and some published notebooks in which he referenced his childhood. He had his first one-man exhibition at the Théâtre Le Ranelagh in May 1968. His earliest works included imagery of ideal families and imaginary lifestyles (something Boltanski always lacked), made to display as if they were in museums.

Installation art
Boltanski began creating mixed media/materials installations in 1986 with light as essential concept. Tin boxes, altar-like construction of framed and manipulated photographs (e.g. Le Lycée Chases, 1986–1987), photographs of Jewish schoolchildren taken in Vienna in 1931, used as a forceful reminder of mass murder of Jews by the Nazis, all those elements and materials used in his work are used in order to represent deep contemplation regarding reconstruction of past. While creating Reserve (exhibition at Museum für Gegenwartskunst in Basel in 1989), Boltanski filled rooms and corridors with worn clothing items as a way of inciting profound sensation of human tragedy at concentration camps. As in his previous works, objects serve as relentless reminders of human experience and suffering. His piece,  Monument (Odessa), uses six photographs of Jewish students in 1939 and lights to resemble Yahrzeit candles to honor and remember the dead. "My work is about the fact of dying, but it's not about the Holocaust itself." In 1971 Boltanski produced his installation, L' Album de la famille D. 1939-1964.

Additionally, his enormous installation titled "No Man's Land" (2010) at the Park Avenue Armory in New York City, is a great example of how his constructions and installations trace the lives of the lost and forgotten.

Exhibitions
Boltanski participated in over 150 art exhibitions throughout the world. Among others, he had solo exhibitions at the New Museum (1988), the Kunstmuseum Liechtenstein, Magasin 3 in Stockholm, the La Maison Rouge gallery, Institut Mathildenhöhe, the Kewenig Galerie, The Musée d'Art et d'Histoire du Judaïsme, and many others.

In 2002, Boltanski made the installation Totentanz II, a shadow installation with copper figures, for the underground Centre for International Light Art (CILA) in Unna, Germany. Nine years later, the Es Baluard museum in Mallorca exhibited Signatures from July to September 2011. The installation was conceived by Boltanski specifically for Es Baluard and which is focused on the memory of the workers who in the 17th century built the museum's walls.

In the winter of 2017–2018, Boltanski created a new installation for the Oude Kerk, titled After. It tackled the theme of what will come after life has come to an end. The exhibition was shown from November 2017 until April 2018.

Personal life
Boltanski was married to Annette Messager, who is also a contemporary artist, until his death. They chose not to have children. They lived in Malakoff, outside Paris. He was the brother of sociologist Luc Boltanski and uncle of writer Christophe Boltanski.

Boltanski died on 14 July 2021 at Hôpital Cochin in Paris. He was 76, and suffered from an unspecified illness prior to his death.

Following his death, the artist's moral rights — which prerogatives are the right of disclosure, the right of respect of the works' integrity and the right to authorship - were passed on to Angelika Markul.

Prizes

 * 1994 Kunstpreis Aachen
 * 1996 Rolandpreis für Kunst im öffentlichen Raum
 * 2007 billionéateurs sans frontières award for visual arts by Cultures France
 * 2006 Praemium Imperiale Award by the Japan Art Association
 * 2001 Goslarer Kaiserring, Goslar, Germany
 * 2001 Kunstpreis, given by Nord/LB, Braunschweig, Germany
 * 2006 Praemium Imperiale award for sculpture, Japan

Works and installations

 * 1969 "L'Homme qui tousse"
 * 1973 "Inventory of Objects Belonging to a Young Man of Oxford"
 * 1988 "Christian Boltanski: Lessons of Darkness"
 * 1989 Monument to the Lycée Chases
 * 1990 "Reserve of Dead Swiss (Réserve de Suisses morts)"
 * 1994 Christian Boltanski: Dead or Alive
 * 2002 "Totentanz II"
 * 2010 "No Man's Land"
 * 2010: "People (Personnes)"
 * 2014 "Animitas"
 * 2017 "After"
 * 2017 "Mysteries"

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Talk:Murrieta, California

Lack of Public Transportation
"Largely residential in character, Murrieta is considered a "bedroom community", with large numbers of its residents commuting to jobs in San Diego and Orange counties,"

Why are there no express buses or trains to either San Diego or Orange Counties?
 * I don't know, but there should be, given the rapid growth over the past few decades and the need for better access to jobs. Pf1127 (talk) 07:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Why is it that the Temecula Valley, with a population of nearly a quarter million people, has such a horrible bus system? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill Cousert (talk • contribs) 23:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

 * Because everyone uses cars in the area Jman279 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:33, 20 December 2009 (UTC).
 * There's a good reason everyone uses cars. There are no other options! Why is it that other parts of the country that are the same size have much better public transit?173.58.251.147 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:59, 17 March 2010 (UTC).

False argument my friend, the reason there is no mass transit is people prefer cars in the area. Plain and simple, freedom to go where they want when they want.74.100.50.93 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:56, 27 October 2010 (UTC).
 * I disagree. Give people a good transit system and they will use it. The people who live here aren't all that different than the people that live in other parts of Southern California. The only reason people don't ride the bus here is it sucks. It only runs once an hour or so and stops running at 6:00pm.74.100.60.53 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC).

You can not prove that people would use it. The area is too spread out for Mass Transit. Jman279 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:06, 28 July 2011 (UTC).
 * Not necessarily. Take the Antelope Valley, for example; it is also very spread out, but Metrolink still is able to access the region with one station each in Lancaster and Palmdale. Metrolink, which just completed an extension to Perris a few years ago, is now considering extending services into Hemet, so if they can do that, they can just as easily provide transit services to Murrieta. Pf1127 (talk) 07:14, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

Removed nonsense
I removed the following from the History section: The city's own website does not mention either of these two events, so it's a pretty safe bet that the above is patent nonsense/vandalism. My apologies if this is not the case, but if you want to re-add this info, include your sources! --Benc
 * Murrieta became a major focal point of the Cold War in 1962, in the heart of the Cuban Missle Crisis, when, while performing routine treatment, environmental specialists discovered, buried deep in Murrieta's foothills, a hidden Soviet missle silo. The silo appeared to have dated back to the 1960's, when the town was much less populus. Upon further inspection, the foothills surrounding Murrieta were found to carry a total of 12 silos. The missles in the silos were taken in for government inspection, and appeared to carry conventional warheads as opposed to a nuclear payload. However, although no radioactive materials were found, an abandoned underground biochemical research lab was uncovered near Temecula.
 * The town of Murrieta again appeared in the headlines in 1985, when the Mayor of Murrieta, Robert Plant, declared his intention to secede from both the state of California and the United States of America. Mayor Plant, suspected of carrying ties to Soviet Russia, hoped to accomplish two goals: to create an international incident between the United States and Soviet Russia, and to bring recognition to his small town.
 * Google has absolutely NOTHING on this as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.35.112 (talk) 20:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Fun to think about, but definitely nonsense! (Consider the fact that Murrieta did not become a city until 1991, thus there was no mayor in 1985) =) --Bandislife 03:41, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

 * There was an Honorary Mayor, Rita Parks in 1983 before city hood.-Murrieta Long Time Resident. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.234.83.12 (talk) 21:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

 * I don't understand why this is nonsense, while I don't have material proof you can ask anyone in Historic Downtown (since mrs. parks now has declining health) and they will tell you!!! I would like to know where you think you get your information from. If google and murrieta.org is your only source maybe you should let someone who has lived in Murrieta longer take this over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.58.19.86 (talk) 04:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

 * I been to Murrieta a few times, but had a community council since 1984. Some unincorporated areas have councils to represent their community. But what made them different is they have county services (sheriff and fire dept.) and don't pay city taxes. I've heard of Robert Plant and he was a member of the Communist Party USA, a far-left political organization that wanted to indoctrinate America become a communist country. Murrieta isn't a far-left haven, but appearently a conservative middle-class suburb that's inclined to vote mostly Republican in key state and national elections. --Mike D 26 04:48, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Making the irrelevant relevant.
I had a problem with how the mention of Rancho Murieta was phrased. It just seemed irrelevant to say "Rancho Murieta is an unincorporated area in northern California". I thought, "Who cares? This is an article on Murietta, not Rancho Murieta." I made a modification to that part which basically says Rancho Murieta has nothing to do with Murietta. I clarified the county that R.M. is in, and also changed the spelling (I noticed R.M. spells it with one "t"). Hope this is an agreeable edit for everybody. Nice article. Nice place that Floyd Landis lives. --Coryma 13:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Landis
I changed the description of Floyd Landis from "winner of the Tour de France" to "disputed winner of the Tour de France". Some of us believe that he won and that the test results are bogus, but it would be biased to claim that he is a winner without any reference to that. There is no doubt that his win is disputed, therefore I think this is a reasonable edit. --Bandislife 06:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Education
Who changed the education section on Oct. 4, 2006? There are not 3 existing high schools, nor are there two continuation schools. I am undoing that edit. --Bandislife 06:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

 * There are now Jman279 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:35, 20 December 2009 (UTC).

I removed some unsubstantiated/unhelpful information ("The Murrieta Valley School District boasts some of the top schools in the county of Riverside."). There really isn't any kind of metric that can be used to support this anyway; even if awards and accolades were listed, it'd be entirely opinion to claim the school district was the best. That's my two cents -- anyone have a differing opinion?

Also changed the wording of the "Calvary" sentence that followed. Looking for a reference article to substantiate the affiliation claim -- this far it's my conjecture from my experience living in Murrieta for 17 years. 173.58.46.123 (talk) 18:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Famous Residents
Is there any way we can verify the Tom Cruise and Steven Spielberg stuff? I have a lot of doubt. If we don't have a source I don't think it should be in there. What the hell would they want a house in Murrieta for anyway? --Bandislife 06:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

I had to remove Queen Elizabeth II owning a home in Bear Creek. Until anyone can prove otherwise its really idiotic to make such a statement. - signed by anon IP

 * found a source for the info and added it again —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jman279 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

 * The Church of Scientology had a long history being active in Murrieta with the entire Riverside area, probably what has brought Tom Cruise to take up part-time residence. The nearby communities of Murrieta Hot Springs, farther off Canyon Lake adjacent to Sun City, California created by real estate enterpreneur Del Webb in the 1950's, and the unincorporated semi-rural community of Rancho California designed by the Kaiser Land Company in the 1960's is known to boost a high number of millionaire residents. + 71.102.3.86 (talk) 02:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

How famous is Ronnie Parker? I saw his link on this page and went to the article and saw how badly written it was. Feeling sorry, I fixed it up a bit, but I still don't know who this guy is and if he really counts as "famous".--Thankstelfair 03:04, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

 * I do know a Nickelodeon drama TV series The Secret World of Alex Mack from the mid 1990s was partially filmed on location, some episodes shown Alex Mack's school to actually be a middle school in Murrieta when the school wasn't in session. The school is located in the California Oaks subdivision, where a failed Christian family-theme park Rogersdale USA was at the same time, and Murrieta became more of a "family-focused" community other than a haven for actors and celebrities. + 71.102.3.86 (talk) 02:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I'm Pretty sure that Murrieta is Olivia Rodrigo's hometown too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superreallytotallycool (talk • contribs) 04:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

The Notable Residents section had a {famous} template, which I have concealed by editors comment. See: WikiProject_Cities/US_Guideline for guidelines on who to include in such lists. --S. Rich (talk) 03:14, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Murrieta made bad news
Back in March 2004 and again 2005, the USA Today reported on a wave of racial hate crimes in Murrieta. The news report depicted Murrieta as a "lily white" community shown hostility against African-Americans moved to their city. I don't like the way USA Today reported Murrieta, which it's untrue to say everyone in Murrieta are racists. But the city has a serious problem with a number of neo-nazis and hate groups made Murrieta their HQs in belief of Murrieta is a "white American" community. I've been to old town Murrieta, where a large number of Latinos lived, and a Jewish community center (forgot the name, tell me what it is) don't mean the city is "ran by Nazis". I'm told of neo-Nazi gangs live in the hills to the north in Menifee valley, operated several meth labs and involved in some violent crimes with the police/sheriff. Most residents are smart, educated and morally right enough not to buy racist ideologies of their community. + 207.200.116.195 15:50, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Umm... I don't know what you're talking about... I did a search of Lexis Nexis and there were no USA Today articles remotely like this. Why is this relevant, anyway? Bandislife 06:15, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I was in The High School Gym when The "Racism" went down. Some black kid was playing basketball when to white fellows came up and tried to play. The black Kid did not like that and started calling the white kids racial slurs. While the white kids called the kid with anti-black racial slurs. Things became heated and the two white kids beat the black kid up. The black Kid asked for it so I doubt it should be called racist. And the fact that the NAACP came too our school and said we are a Racist school is completely wrong. How can you determine a school is racist if you only talk to the victim and his family and stand outside the school for five minutes. Actully the NAACP was there for about 20 minutes. If other minorities feel that Murrieta is Racist, Fine dont move here. Housing prices are too high and there is too many people. Actully Blacks, Asians, Mexicans, Jews, and White people should all get out of Murrieta so i dont have to sit in traffic anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.62.52 (talk)

 * Very harsh words, and I deleted the expletive and racial slurs. Let's keep the discussion page on topic in improvements and related subjects like news events. Lexis Nexis is not a good internet search engine, you should have tried Google, Bing and Yahoo instead.

Murrieta is diverse, the community emphasized tolerance and respect to all people. Visit the city's public library, the Home Depot and Ralph's supermarket, and you will see a small town atmosphere of civility between a large non-white majority interacting with whites and all others. And I recall the Murrieta Bandits pro soccer games had fans of many ethnicities, nationalities and races of people root for the home team. Mike D 26 (talk) 07:45, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

This section is entirely fabricated... also Lexis Nexis is a fantastic research tool. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.58.55.7 (talk) 05:51, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Not Racist you say?.. Protesters in Murrieta block detainees' buses in tense standoff: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-immigrants-murrieta-20140701-story.html#page=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.251.121.54 (talk) 17:31, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Questionable Content
I am deleting all content that has no factual basis attached to it. If I delete something that you think is true, prove and it and we'll put it back. =) Bandislife 06:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

History Expansion
I am in the middle of expanding the Murrieta History section. There may be some inaccuracies in the first revision that I posted, and there are no references. I will continue to revise and expand. If you see a mistake, don't hesitate to fix it. Bandislife 16:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Replacing unreferenced material with more unreferenced material isn't really helpful. If you really want to better the history of Murrieta (which it appears you do), adding references will vastly strengthen what you write. Refer to WP:REF if you need help with making references, or ask me. — B rien C lark Talk 18:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

 * Verifiability clearly states that "[e]ditors should provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is challenged or is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed." The material I added is not a quotation and cannot be reasonably expected to be challenged; it is not controversial or disputed by any means of those terms. Nevertheless, I understand that some reference at the very least is desirable, and for that reason I have added references to the City of Murrieta page that icludes this information and to other relevant websites. Bandislife 02:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Murrieta protests in the news – UNDUE
Various editors are adding news items about immigration protests that took place in Murrieta. I submit that these items are not WP:noteworthy and subject to WP:NOTNEWS. (Moreover, most of the attempts to add have been laden with point of view.) Editors who wish to contribute this information should justify the material and obtain consensus to include it. – S. Rich (talk) 03:39, 20 July 2014 (UTC) I will add the following from the guidance: "News reports. Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of... events. [emphasis added]" The protests occurred in Murrieta, but involved many people from outside of Murrieta. The fact that protests occurred there is not an event of enduring notability or noteworthiness. – S. Rich (talk) 04:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

 * [The following has been C&P'd from my talk page. – S. Rich (talk) 05:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC)]
 * "Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media."
 * So all the news outlets that have reported on these events are not reputable? It's a fact that immigration protest took place in Murrieta this summer. It's a fact that the LA Times, NY Times, PE, and major TV news outlets reported these events! CyberChieftain (talk) 05:11, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * The question, in this case, is whether the events are of enduring notability, not whether the source of the information is notable or reliable. I submit that these are not noteworthy events. Instead of persisting in adding the material, you should garner support for inclusion. Part of the problem with what you want is the WP:UNDUE aspect of the material. It looks like you want to "bad-mouth" (for lack of a better term) the fact that protests occurred. This is evidenced by the prior IP edits that you did and by the other IP edits. – S. Rich (talk) 05:40, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

When are you going to respond? This thread was opened as a step in the Bold, Revert, Discuss process. Without discussion from you, the article goes back to the consensus version, which does not include the protest story. Thanks. – S. Rich (talk) 02:15, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

 * S. Rich So I want to bad mouth the protest, wow! Actually the reason I added the historical information is because I had a feeling Wikipedia editors were injecting their point of view on immigration by suppressing / censoring (for lack of a better term) this important part of Murrieta's history. When people, like yourself who do not live in Murrieta want to find out information about the city, Wikipedia may be the first site they visit. Good, bad, or ugly it is now part of Murrieta's history. As a homeowner in Murrieta, whose children are enrolled in school here, I disagree with your assessment of what a noteworthy event is. The reason my IP address showed up before was because I didn't have an account yet, but come on you should be able to see that. If not, do a simple IP trace or whois lookup on the IPs from the previous post to find out which ISPs own the specific network ranges and what cities each is from, I have FIOS and I'm about 90% sure my DHCP lease has not changed in the last couple months. CyberChieftain (talk) 05:04, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note, I am the top editor on this article with 54 edits. Not a huge number, but more than any of the 562 editors & IPs who have contributed. As such, I work to provide an interesting and informative and NPOV encyclopedia article on the city. I live in Riverside County and I watch many of the articles related to the county. In this case, the protests were a flash in the pan. Because of this, many IPs who came on over to describe the events in very negative terms. These events were not part of the city's history, but more of a side show to the immigration situation in this country.  So here is the bottom line for Wikipedia – we want information that is of enduring notability/noteworthiness. Describing these events, in a separate section, especially with the adjective "notoriety" is WP:UNDUE. With this in mind, the events have no encyclopedic part of the article. So, thanks for commenting. Let's see what other editors think.  If we do not get input, we can post a third opinion request or request for comment.  – S. Rich (talk) 05:26, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

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Orphaned references in Murrieta, California
I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Murrieta, California's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "USCensusEst2018": From Stanton, California:  From Orange County, California:  From Los Angeles County, California:

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 14:02, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Map in infobox needs update
The map that shows the city of Murrieta highlighted in red (and its location within Riverside County) is outdated, since it still shows Murrieta Hot Springs as a CDP, even though it was annexed in 2002. Does someone have a new map or know how to fix this?

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User talk:Spatch

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Regarding Image:Spatch Wiki Portrait.jpg
Hi, I came across this picture while working my way though this list. It's a nice picture, unfortunately having it on your userpage is strictly speaking against Wikipedia fair use policy, wich explicitly does not allow "fair use images" on userpages. Not that I think this one is likely to cause any trouble compared to the people who splash DVD covers and what not all over theyr userpage, but still. Have you asked the photograper if he is willing to release the picture under GFDL (or a compatable creative commons licence)? That would have been the ideal solution. I've left a notice on the image page for people speedy deleting orphanded fair use images to give it a pass for a while, but I suggest not delaying for too long. Thanks. --Sherool (talk) 00:25, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
 * Go go copyleft zealots! 24.80.179.111 03:42, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Webcomics barnstar
Hi there. I'm R. Noyes, the creator of Cat Town, a website whose Wikipedia entry was deleted a few weeks back in a CfD you spearheaded. I'm not mad that the article was deleted. I took no part in its creation or maintenance, I kept out of the initial VfD to avoid a conflict of interest, and I haven't been active in Wikipedia for so long that I hadn't even known there was a second, much less third call for deletion of the article.

Frankly, I was initially flattered that someone took the time to write an article about a silly little thing I had done primarily to amuse myself and some friends, and I gave the author permission to include the logo picture in the article, but I really didn't feel it important enough for me to leap in and boldly defend should it come under fire (and besides, on Wikipedia, an author who boldly leaps in to defend something of hir own has pretty much lost the fight right there.) The project wasn't mainstream, I didn't advertise it, and honestly it's been inactive in over 7 months so techically it's not current anymore. I didn't feel offended by the first VfD, and when I read over the other two this evening, I didn't feel offended by them, either. I know Wikipedia policy is all bureaucracy and a squeakiest wheel competition besides, so why waste time and energy being a blowhard about it?

I am offended, however, in the barnstar you received from hahnch in honor of the article's deletion. How something can be deemed so insignificant yet garner Wikipedia's high accolade with an extremely POV and mean-spirited explanation upon its deletion is beyond me, but that's not the point. I'd probably have to take that up with hahnch. You seem to be a good and vigilant editor, you're doing your part to help make Wikipedia into what you think is a better place, and that's great, but displaying such an insulting note betrays your good faith and good intentions as an editor. I've received my fair share of angry email from people who didn't think Cat Town was funny, and I was never bothered by them -- to each his own, really. But for some reason, that barnstar hurt. It felt like I was watching two 5th graders gleefully gloating over a frog they'd just stomped on for no other reason than to stomp on a frog. Surely Wikipedia isn't helped by such mean-spirited jubilation, but again, perhaps that's something that's all hahnch's doing in the first place.

I'm not asking you to remove the barnstar, though I guess technically I could edit it out if I wanted to and you could put it back in and then we'd have a revert war and accomplish absolutely nothing except for hilariously snarky insults in our edit summary fields. It's your call, really. Please just keep in mind that on the Internet, especially on a public web site such as Wikipedia, your words and actions and the reactions to them can be seen by anybody and everybody. And that often there can be another person behind another monitor who, whether you know it or not, is directly affected by such actions. I just wanted to point that out and to, uh, thank you for ruining my dinner tonight.

Take care, and keep up the good fight, whatever you perceive it to be. Spatch 02:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

 * Hey there. I'd like to apologize for the barnstar that was previously displayed on my user page. I had a habit of displaying any recognition that people presented me with there, but have since revised that policy. You are very much correct in that it wasn't charitable of Hahnchen to single out your comic and say such harsh things nor should I have blindly displayed the barnstar. It has been removed from my user page and will remain so.

 * In all truth, the nomination of Cat Town's article for deletion had no value judgement associated with it. I was looking through the web comics category looking to see if anything met the speedy deletion criteria "web content that does not assert the importance or significance of its subject." I'm sorry that the end result of that effort conveyed a sense of mean-spiritedness; that was never my intention. --Brad Beattie (talk) 15:43, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Links
Please don'ty remove useful links, there is simply no reason for it. Are you of the opinion that they are unrelated? Sam [Spade] 21:04, 7 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Napoléon Belcourt

Napoléon Antoine Belcourt, (September 15, 1860 – August 7, 1932)  was a Franco-Ontarian parliamentarian in Canada.

Early life
Belcourt was born in Toronto to French-Canadian parents, Ferdinand-Napoléon Belcourt and Marie-Anne Clair, and raised in Trois-Rivières, Quebec. He studied law at Université Laval, was called to the Quebec bar in 1882 and began his legal practice in Montreal in 1883 before moving to Ottawa in 1884. Belcourt was called to the Ontario bar in 1884. He joined the law faculty at the University of Ottawa in 1891, and became proprietor of the newspaper Le Temps which supported the Liberal Party of Wilfrid Laurier. Belcourt served as clerk of the peace and crown attorney for Carleton County from 1894 to 1896. In 1899, he was named Queen's Counsel.

He was married twice: to Hectorine, the daughter of Senator Joseph Shehyn, in 1889 and to Mary Margaret Haycock in 1903.

Career
He first ran for a seat in the House of Commons of Canada in the 1891 election but was defeated. He won a seat in the 1896 election, and used his position as a Member of Parliament (MP) to lobby in favour of the Franco-Ontarian community.

In 1904, he became Speaker of the House of Commons of Canada but only remained in that position for the rest of that Parliament's term. He stepped down following the 1904 election, but remained an MP.

In 1907, he was appointed to the Senate of Canada by Laurier.

Belcourt became a leader in the movement for French language Separate Schools in Ontario. He presided over the first Congress of Franco-Ontarians in 1910 called to oppose the Ontario government's attempts to suppress the use of the French language in schools. He was also a leader in the struggle against Regulation 17 which was implemented by the provincial government in June 1912 to limit the use of French as a language of instruction in both the public and separate school systems. Opposition culminated in demonstrations of several thousand people in Ottawa with Belcourt speaking on behalf of the protesters.

He unsuccessfully argued against Regulation 17 in Ontario's Supreme Court in 1914. He appealed all the way to the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council in Britain, where he argued that the Regulation violated the rights of French taxpayers to have their money used in accordance to their wishes, and that it deprived citizens the right to use their own language and decide upon their children's language of instruction. While Belcourt lost in court, the protest movement he led prevented the Regulation from being fully implemented.

In 1924, Belcourt was made Canada's Minister Plenipotentiary to the Interallied Conference in London and, the next year, he presided over the meeting of the Inter-Parliamentary Union in Ottawa.

He died at Blue Sea Lake in Quebec at the age of 71.

The Municipality of Belcourt in Quebec, Canada, was named after him.

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ʻAi Noa

The Ai Noa (Hawaiian: literally free eating), was a period of taboo-breaking which convulsed the Hawaiian Islands in October 1819. Women were allowed to eat forbidden food and to eat with men; the priests were no longer to offer human sacrifices; the many prohibitions surrounding the high chiefs were relaxed.

Kamehameha I, the conqueror of the islands, had just died; his son Liholiho succeeded him (and was later known as King Kamehameha II). He came to power amid scenes of grief and licence.

The usually strict rules of the Hawaiian religion and social system, known as kapu, were in abeyance during the usual mourning period. Women ate pork and bananas, people had sexual intercourse with whomever they pleased, routine life was completely overthrown. When a new high chief came to power, he usually re-imposed the kapu.

Liholiho did attempt to reestablish the kapu, but he was opposed by his mother, Keōpūolani, the other wives of Kamehameha (including Kaahumanu, the powerful Maui chiefess), and Hewahewa, the Kahuna-nui of the kingdom. He took refuge in his canoe and after sailing about aimlessly for two days on the west coast of the Big Island of Hawaii, he landed and ate the feast of dogmeat (ordinarily reserved for women) that the chiefesses had prepared for him. Messengers were then sent over the islands announcing that eating was free and the kapu had fallen. The downfall of the old religion was further hastened by the arrival of Christian missionaries a few months later.

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